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call this meeting to order.

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Start the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America, and to the

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republic

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for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Okay, can we have a roll call, please?

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>> Patricia? Here. Eric? Here. Zeke? Here.

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Courtney? Here.

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Dustin? Here.

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Okay, before we get started, um

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as you can see, Mayor Geiger Mayor

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Geiger is out sick today. Um she didn't

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have much of a voice when I spoke with

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her earlier, so I will be speaking for

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her instead.

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Uh first thing I want to do, I want to

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call to amend the agenda. Uh

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two things I want to change is under

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business items 10, add in add

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letter E,

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a presentation from DR Horton for Scioto

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item 15, executive session, up to just

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after that presentation, above

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legislation.

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Okay, next on the agenda, we're going to

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go through our meeting minutes. Um

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approval of the March 12th, 2026

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public hearing meeting

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public hearing minutes, IDI variance. So

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moved.

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» Next, approval of the March 2nd, 2026

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public hearing meeting minutes, rezoning Scioto

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I need a motion. Motion.

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Next one, approval of the March 2nd,

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2026 council meeting minutes. Um

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moved. Motion. Thank you. Do I get Do I

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get Jay? Do I get a second? Second.

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Approval of the March 16th, 2026

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committee of the whole meeting minutes.

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from Jay. Second.

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meeting minutes. I have a motion. Motion

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not have to have more than three of

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those per month.

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reports. Um

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the mayor's absence, uh Wendy's going to

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speak on the mayor's behalf on this one,

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please. So, what Mayor Geiger wanted me

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to let council know is the

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administration team and Councilman

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Weaver met with the development team for

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the Lane property. They have asked to

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come in front [clears throat] of council

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to present their plan at council's

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earliest convenience. Since we had a

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full agenda for tonight's meeting, she

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suggested that they come to the April

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Committee of the Whole meeting.

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way the MRIs, CT scans, and other

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imaging documents would be stored.

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information into what they are calling a

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library of information.

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council is interested in meeting with

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the team and hearing what they are

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returns to the office.

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right now. It is down there as a

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business item, but you can just let me

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know whether you're interested in

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hearing that or not, so that we can move

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>> Village solicitor's report. Uh just one

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item. Uh thanks to Jim

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for uh staying on top of the zoning

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violation we had. Uh we believe it's

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all been cured by Mr. Iseo, and uh

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action against him should be dismissed

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once he cleans up the job site. And

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all's in order, and big thank you to

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the chief here, anybody sitting in for

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him? Okay.

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were busy last week, okay?

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concluded our interviews for a full-time

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anticipated start in April sometime.

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new person coming in will hopefully

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alleviate some of those mowing.

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phase one of Walker Point. Um it's been

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anything as far as crack sealing

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but we're into that now because there's

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a lot of them that are needing it, so

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we're going to get another quote just to

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equal, and we'll we'll review those.

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engineering for Chestnut Estates,

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uh the issue up there.

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where some homeowner homeowners um

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had some issues on their backyards.

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developer, and hopefully they're working

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through it toward a resolution.

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subdivision regulations to improve

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the language in there to where we can

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hopefully eliminate those issues in the

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those were private roads.

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know moving forward when they say

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private roads, yeah, we might not have

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experience. So, yeah, we had it's a

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rather large piece, and then

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another issues with some storm drop

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frames along catch basins that were

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busted, and we're we're finding those,

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and we're having to replace those

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modification on the east side.

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biosolids at the wastewater plant.

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a possibility we'll have to press three

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money, but we'll see how the summer

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beginning, I'm just real briefly. So,

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mass of bacteria, bugs, whatever

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microscopic, they eat everything.

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then they die, and we have to get rid of

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those on a continuous basis, and that's

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the the waste water sludge comes in, and

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composting material.

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either land apply it, you put it in a

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a little antsy about how things were

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going to work over the wintertime with

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new treatment processes, but they did

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fine. So, and we had a pretty harsh

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winter, so we're doing pretty good with

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Lift Station.

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that that water Excuse me, that waste

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water lift station was sized

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load to that.

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It has overflowed a couple times in

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March,

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and we're right now working with Susan's

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group to engineer

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and increase capacity of that.

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So, that

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>> [clears throat]

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>> Remind me, is that the lift station that

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the couple of people that have tried to

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come in are willing to That's correct.

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From all down. That's correct. Okay, and

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there is nothing from there I mean, it's

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just undersized from that point out?

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>> It is undersized at the lift station

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itself, and it's undersized from the

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force main from that lift station all

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the way to the wastewater plant.

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So, that's multi-million dollar upgrade.

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Don't know yet. We're still We're just

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starting that process.

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>> It's probably going to be more than 500

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bucks. Oh, yeah.

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Guarantee that.

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>> I gave me a ballpark figure. More than

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500. There you go. Thank you.

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So, yeah, that's that's in the process

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now and just beginning.

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Um

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We also had an issue in the industrial

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park with a where the storm or the

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sanitary sewers, it was a gravity sewer

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that failed on us. Um and I found out

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that that part of the sewer system had

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an extended warranty with it

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from the

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contractor that put it in.

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[cough and clears throat]

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Uh so, we're working with them to

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fix that for us.

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>> Look at you saving us money. One man. I

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didn't know about that warranty issue.

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That was a group effort on that, so.

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But, we're working on that to get that

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done. As far as meetings, um

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Wendy had already mentioned the one

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meeting we had. Um we've also had a

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meeting with the highway EPA in March

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about our source water protection plan,

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which basically says

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we're going to make sure that we can

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control what happens in our in our

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wellhead protection area.

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As far as growth, development, what

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impacts

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we can allow in there.

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>> is that? Huh? How It just depends. So,

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there's a 1-year time of travel and

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there's a 5-year time of travel. And

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obviously, the 1-year time of travel uh

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is short is smaller. But, and it won't

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really encroach up into any developed

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areas on the east side. I'm sorry, cuz

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it's all flood plain anyway.

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>> Yeah, but still we have to control what

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happens in there.

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Um

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I think that's about it.

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So, any

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questions on anything?

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Dave, I would

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just [clears throat] like to take a

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second uh

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I was hard on you, but thank you for

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taking what we had suggested and giving

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us a report that now I can answer

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questions if anybody asks with not

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complete ignorance. So, I would just

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thank you for taking that feedback

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>> I appreciate that.

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Don't want I just don't want to take up

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the whole meeting. I mean, I can talk

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for

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>> [laughter]

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>> a couple of days.

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>> That was the sweet spot right there.

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Okay. You said it's based on it. I'll

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work on that. Thank you, folks. I'll be

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over here.

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Hey, I'm Village Engineer Sport. I don't

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know how you follow that, Susan.

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Good afternoon. So, in addition to what

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[laughter]

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Dave had, uh a couple more items. So,

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the MI Foxfire subdivision, we are

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reviewing the phase five plans. Uh we've

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provided some comments, so engineers

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working on those. So, we'll wait for

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that resubmittal. Is that the last one?

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that we're aware of, yes. For

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now.

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>> [laughter]

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» And then, the last item I had,

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Belshazzar Street uh in the roadway

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improvements, stormwater improvements.

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So, we're wrapping up the plans and

389
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getting the package ready to go out to

390
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bid. So, that should be happening here

391
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this year. Uh we'll see those

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improvements. That's all I had in

393
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addition to what Dave said. So, any

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questions?

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>> The Belshazzar project, is that going to

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deal with this

397
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hole that's running under bowling alley

398
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that comes out that way?

399
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It was brought up before uh with

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Dave's person before him,

401
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and I've had a couple of people mention

402
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it again. So, I just didn't know because

403
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that's, you know, we're doing all the

404
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way down. I didn't know if that goes off

405
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or is Dave, is that something we can

406
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look into again? You may not even know

407
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about it, but

408
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>> There's like a hole behind

409
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between where Ross lives and like that

410
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daycare. Yeah. And

411
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I told something down in there and it

412
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you never heard it stop. Like how big of

413
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a hole? I mean, it's Oh, okay. You know,

414
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bocce ball or bigger, maybe.

415
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Um

416
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And then, there's another one starting

417
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uh just like it on Front Street coming

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back into town Mhm.

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just maybe 200 ft

420
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past the the village sign there. I think

421
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it's right before the bridge. But, the

422
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only reason I noticed that one is I hit

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it on my wheelchair and yeeted out of

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it.

425
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So, I I kind of found that one for us,

426
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but

427
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and I it was literally 2 days ago, but

428
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so, it's the first time, but yeah, I

429
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just didn't know cuz if there's a

430
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problem on bowling alley, wouldn't that

431
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feed into Belshazzar or vice versa

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somehow? It just depends on what what's

433
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creating the hole, what what the cause

434
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is. Um we actually have just an internal

435
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staff meeting Wednesday, so let me I

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believe I've heard that discussed with

437
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Mike. I feel like Mike's probably been

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out there and Yeah, he he went out and

439
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looked at it originally.

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Let Let me talk with uh

441
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Mike and Nita and John Wilson and see if

442
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they know what that is, what's causing

443
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it, and then we can follow up. Yeah,

444
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that's all right. It'd be great. I do I

445
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mean, if we can tie it together in one

446
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whack, maybe we can get it taken care of

447
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a little bit cheaper than doing a

448
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separate project.

449
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>> Right.

450
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Thank you.

451
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Anything else?

452
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Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate

453
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it.

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Is there any administrator report? Yeah,

455
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just a few things.

456
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Um

457
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the 233 3 Victorian news

458
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finally completed. I'm almost certain.

459
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So, I'm pretty happy about that.

460
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Uh this is grass and weed season, so

461
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here we go again.

462
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And uh

463
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already some problems out there, and so

464
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we'll be taking care of those through

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our licening.

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The fountains, we've contacted some of

467
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the HRAs and I had to make sure the

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fountains are up and running and that

469
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there is no bubble ups. We have some

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bubble ups there that have to be

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replaced with the fountains.

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Uh

473
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the

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I was contacted by the schools uh

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maintenance guy and um

476
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a bunch of trees are in the back in the

477
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fence line of Carmel Court.

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And I couldn't figure out who wanted to

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get all those trees trimmed, and finally

480
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got to it, and it was the electric

481
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company

482
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hired an individual to come in there,

483
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but he didn't clean it up.

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So,

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now we're in the process of contacting

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the

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electric company to get ahold of the

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vendor who he worked with, okay, and

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then we can go from there.

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Uh

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and that's really all I have. Do you

492
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have any questions for me?

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Going with the fountains, so last year

494
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was the first year that

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there was something in place. What's

496
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going to be the process when somebody

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has one not running? I mean, is there

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going to be We're We're contacting

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people right away. Yeah. So, if people

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ask us The HRA takes care of that. If

501
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there is no HRA, then

502
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we can go with like whoever is in

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charge.

504
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So, yeah, we keep an eye out on the

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people.

506
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What it does need, fountains and not the

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bubble ups.

508
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Okay.

509
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Anything else?

510
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Thank you.

511
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Fiscal officer's report?

512
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Um just like I mentioned in Mayor

513
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Geiger's report, I attended the Lane

514
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property meeting. Quite interesting.

515
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Um I emailed out to the new council

516
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members the fraud reporting class. I

517
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received everybody's but Zita's.

518
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Courtney, so yes, that was done.

519
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8-minute video, very quick. I just need

520
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to have those for my reporting.

521
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Um on April 1st, I received a major site

522
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plan along with all of the fees paid

523
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over for the Jan property.

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The application has been reviewed for

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completeness by the zoning department

526
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and will be distributed to council via

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your mailboxes here at the office by the

528
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end of the week. Um I would ask that

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this item be added to the COW agenda.

530
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Um I received notification from the

531
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auditors today that my audit will start

532
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probably in the next couple of weeks. Um

533
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so, you'll probably be getting emails

534
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from the auditor's office just asking if

535
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you know of any fraud or anything like

536
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,400
that. They're routine emails. They have

537
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to send them out. So, um just be

538
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watching for those.

539
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» [clears throat]

540
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>> On the legislative reports, Courtney?

541
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None.

542
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Uh [clears throat]

543
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so,

544
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as Wendy mentioned,

545
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uh

546
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you know, I think we need to bring

547
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attention to the fact that

548
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they uh they submitted eight developers

549
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submitted major site plans for um

550
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for data center. I think, you know, I I

551
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just think that everybody

552
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should hear that. Um

553
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Today, we have three emergency items on

554
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our agenda.

555
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Three pieces of legislation that are

556
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aimed at combating the incursion of data

557
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centers,

558
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industrial scale development that

559
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doesn't agree with the character or the

560
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identity of our village or our

561
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community.

562
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,440
This is the first step, and it's a step

563
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,560
that may well result in litigation.

564
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,560
I believe that this is what our

565
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,159
community throughout Pickaway County and

566
00:19:45,159 --> 00:19:48,600
rural Ohio at large has voted for, put

567
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,960
us here.

568
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,920
We have, you know, constitutional

569
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,470
amendments coming forward.

570
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,720
Um

571
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,920
I don't know, sitting here today,

572
00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,360
and I can't tell you what the outcome of

573
00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:02,400
the vote

574
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,200
what the outcome is going to be for the

575
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,680
village.

576
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,560
Um

577
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,600
but I I believe that it it will be a

578
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,880
fight.

579
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720
I don't want to blame current or

580
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,560
previous leadership.

581
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,720
I think that we got here chasing money,

582
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,080
chasing growth, driven by fear of

583
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,400
neighboring cities and a systemic lack

584
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,400
of accountability.

585
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,440
There may well be unavoidable

586
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,360
consequences for those actions.

587
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,640
The developer who's here today, uh who

588
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,240
threatened us with litigation last

589
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,240
month,

590
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,160
um as I mentioned at the beginning,

591
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,040
submitted those site plans in spite of

592
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,640
what I felt like and made very clear to

593
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,440
him that we didn't want him.

594
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,440
Uh their intentions are unclear, but

595
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,360
this submission underscores the urgency

596
00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,720
that at least I feel, but I believe our

597
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,440
community feels, and the need for our

598
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,269
action today.

599
00:20:58,269 --> 00:20:58,520
>> [clears throat]

600
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,360
>> What is What is the soul of our village?

601
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,560
What is it worth to us?

602
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,880
Things are changing, and they're

603
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,920
changing very quickly. I think it's

604
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,800
clear to everyone.

605
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,360
So, what we need to know is if not this,

606
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,240
then what is it that we do want to drive

607
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,320
past on our way home and when we look

608
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280
out our back doors?

609
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,960
The farm fields that characterize so

610
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,440
much of the landscape and character that

611
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,840
we have here,

612
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,480
I feel that they'll be gone before too

613
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,000
long.

614
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,200
So, what is the identity of our village?

615
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,040
Who do we want to be, and what business

616
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,720
do we want here?

617
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,840
As we As we set forth into this fight, I

618
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,320
think we need to ask ourselves

619
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,640
what we want this place to be in 5, 10,

620
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,320
15 years, and what we're willing to do,

621
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,040
say, and most importantly, pay to make

622
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,395
that happen.

623
00:21:47,395 --> 00:21:47,520
>> [clears throat]

624
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,720
>> Speaking for myself, this is the first

625
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600
place that I've ever lived where you can

626
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,840
leave your doors unlocked at night,

627
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,240
where my kids can run through the

628
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,360
neighborhood without fear, without

629
00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,840
concern,

630
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,040
where the community still means

631
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,200
something.

632
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,560
To me, that's worth protecting.

633
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,080
This place is a piece of bottled up

634
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,200
Americana that, to be honest with you, I really thought only existed in movies

635
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,080
before I moved here.

636
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,040
I don't believe that truck stops or data

637
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,320
centers reflect that identity.

638
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,800
But this decision isn't mine alone, and

639
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,440
to the public, I would ask you, please

640
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,120
engage with us.

641
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,679
To my colleagues, I would encourage you,

642
00:22:23,679 --> 00:22:24,960
please stay the course that we are

643
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,240
starting on today with courage and

644
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,400
fortitude.

645
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,400
Let us move forward into the future with

646
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,679
respect for our past, hopes for our

647
00:22:32,679 --> 00:22:33,920
future,

648
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,400
and the strength of our community at our

649
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,120
back. We're all neighbors, and it's

650
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:42,040
beyond past time that we put petty

651
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,800
squabbles and personal animus behind us

652
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,600
to forge a new future for ourselves as a

653
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,880
community.

654
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,400
That's all I have.

655
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,815
Thank you, Zeke.

656
00:22:56,825 --> 00:22:58,080
» [applause]

657
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,880
>> Thank you.

658
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,669
Patricia. I don't have anything.

659
00:23:04,679 --> 00:23:06,440
I don't know if I can follow that up. I

660
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,305
don't know if I can.

661
00:23:07,305 --> 00:23:08,800
>> [laughter]

662
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,360
>> Eric.

663
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,236
Yeah.

664
00:23:11,236 --> 00:23:11,360
>> [clears throat]

665
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,679
>> Um

666
00:23:12,679 --> 00:23:14,600
I'm going to put that up on the TV just

667
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,880
because I've had such a hard time

668
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,800
understanding this to myself that just

669
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,600
let me just see it while I try to talk

670
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,000
about it. You think Zeke and I talk

671
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,600
outside of council,

672
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,800
but I had no clue I was going to follow

673
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,240
that, so

674
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,560
just from

675
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,800
and this is kind of talking to my

676
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,320
colleagues up here.

677
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,440
You know, when you first get elected,

678
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000
you're excited, you believe you can make

679
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,480
a difference, and then it really hit,

680
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,200
and you feel like you're drowning. You

681
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,440
start to see how things work, or maybe

682
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080
more accurately, how things don't work.

683
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,880
And

684
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040
for a while,

685
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160
you regret it every day.

686
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,360
But then, as you do it, you start to

687
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,960
understand see where things break down,

688
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,160
think you can make a change,

689
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,880
and by that time, new people's coming in

690
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,360
that feel the same way you did 2 years

691
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,600
ago.

692
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,080
So, you got to move up, and you got to

693
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,240
let them drown, or try to not let them

694
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,679
drown,

695
00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:12,320
and it's it's a cycle. And

696
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,720
unfortunately, I feel like Commercial

697
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080
Point has fallen into a cycle

698
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,160
of repetitiveness, and tonight could be

699
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520
the the night that that repetitiveness

700
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,080
is broken.

701
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,800
And so, I just wanted to

702
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,800
with talking with my colleagues

703
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,840
individually about their ideas and the

704
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960
past mayors and council members that

705
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,679
actually came up with our ordinances,

706
00:24:38,679 --> 00:24:41,200
uh it's obvious that things are getting

707
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,000
changed without anybody knowing.

708
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,360
And you know, I got to say, hats off to

709
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,400
Tays Valley Against Overgrowth that

710
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,480
they've opened people's eyes that it's

711
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,800
broken.

712
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,520
Whether we agree with it or not, it's

713
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,840
gotten people out and about,

714
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,000
but

715
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000
just doing things by rules

716
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,320
like has been done for 50 years, 60

717
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,840
years here,

718
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,360
we can't do that anymore because it

719
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,920
doesn't work. And it's not just here. We

720
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,840
learned that with the township recently.

721
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,400
We've always just said, "Yeah, we'll do

722
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,440
ours, you do yours. Peace. All right.

723
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,440
Bring it in." Doesn't work anymore, so

724
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440
that process has changed.

725
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,080
So, this is the first step in what we've

726
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,440
been doing. We got the council rules.

727
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,880
Now, I feel we're at the second step

728
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,679
because we know the first step, it

729
00:25:32,679 --> 00:25:34,840
didn't work. Or we all wouldn't be here

730
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,480
eating pissed, except for

731
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,560
our favorite presenters down here that

732
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,920
they're just like, "Oh, great. Another

733
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,480
eating meeting that we have to present

734
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,760
place to." Phenomenal.

735
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,320
Um [clears throat] so, we're going to

736
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,440
have to start legislating that. And that

737
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,920
is going to start tonight.

738
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,120
We have somebody wants to start a

739
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,720
planning commission.

740
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,040
We want to have transparency. We want to

741
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,800
have those automatic triggers

742
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,480
that nobody can throw away in an

743
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,480
organizational meeting

744
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,640
the first meeting of January every year.

745
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,760
Do you know how many things have been

746
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,400
changed

747
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,400
in the last 5 years that nobody knows

748
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,120
was even around?

749
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:17,679
I'll tell you what, start looking at the

750
00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:19,920
old council rules.

751
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960
It's scary how many things have been

752
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,120
changed. They can't do that with

753
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,120
legislation. But what I don't want

754
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,040
anybody to do is get that confused with

755
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,920
a charter because that's been used here.

756
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600
We are not changing our type of

757
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,400
government, how it operates, or

758
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,920
anything.

759
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Uh somebody that I look up to in the

760
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,160
legal world

761
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240
said, "So, it's just like guardrails."

762
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,760
I'm like, "Right."

763
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,240
You know what? We had to make a change

764
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,480
coming into town, 35 all the way in.

765
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Why? Because people was crashing into

766
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,040
houses.

767
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,080
What worked it? So, what was we going to

768
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,160
do? Put guardrails. But we're going to

769
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320
try the speed thing first.

770
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,760
If it works, we don't need guardrails.

771
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,120
If so, we need guardrails. Well, if we

772
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,200
do that for our roadways, why wouldn't

773
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,440
we do that for where y'all's money goes?

774
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040
I just don't I don't get it. So, you're

775
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,679
going to see real quick, our next

776
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:10,800
council meeting is probably going to

777
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,880
have seven or eight pieces of

778
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,800
legislation, and it all works to this.

779
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,920
It is going to make it so there is a

780
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,640
process for a property. There is a

781
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200
process for

782
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000
everything, and those processes trigger

783
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,720
automatic notification.

784
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,240
This is not about administration not

785
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,760
doing it right. They are operating under

786
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,960
the very broken system that they've been

787
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,400
handed,

788
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,640
and doing what has always been done.

789
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840
And if I have heard one thing from

790
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,480
everybody, it's

791
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,160
the way it's always been done ain't the

792
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,600
way it's going to be done going to the

793
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,960
future.

794
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
And in my opinion and the individual

795
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,800
council members that I've talked to,

796
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,240
this is where we think it needs to go,

797
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,679
and I don't think we can do it as a

798
00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:00,160
package,

799
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,080
but it just needs to happen. So, that we

800
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,040
don't end up here. Listen, we've priced

801
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,679
our farmers out of their business. We priced them

802
00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:12,960
out. Why? Because everybody wants to be

803
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,640
here.

804
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
We've priced them out. Well, we got to

805
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,600
make sure that we don't price ourselves

806
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,800
out

807
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,640
so that our homes are no longer

808
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,480
affordable for us.

809
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:30,070
Thank Thank you. I appreciate that.

810
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Well, um we'll move on to my uh

811
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,159
legislative time.

812
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:36,119
>> Oh, no, it's you. Sorry. I'm sorry.

813
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,720
>> [laughter]

814
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,000
>> Thank you for trying to keep me

815
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,630
straight. I appreciate that.

816
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,120
I'm sorry. Unintentionally dovetailing

817
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,159
on what you're saying there, um a couple

818
00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:48,679
things. One, yes, the planning

819
00:28:48,679 --> 00:28:51,480
commission legislation uh one that that

820
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,360
I feel strongly about, yes, will be

821
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,159
brought up in the COW for us to take

822
00:28:55,159 --> 00:28:57,080
action on and have discussion on to make

823
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200
sure that we do get that right, and to

824
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,480
make sure that we do have another layer

825
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,520
of

826
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,560
uh of our citizens

827
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,000
watching our zoning, watching where

828
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,640
we're going, their future, helping with

829
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,200
our uh zoning, our comprehensive plan.

830
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,280
Absolutely. So, we will have that. Uh

831
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,840
the one thing that I do want to come up,

832
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,360
and I'm going to bring for [snorts] a

833
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,600
vote today, is something that I noticed

834
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
when I sat on the other side there,

835
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,960
um as late as last year, was that in our

836
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,919
rules, in our council rules, we did not

837
00:29:28,919 --> 00:29:31,640
have a

838
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760
guardrails, if you will, but standards

839
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,320
in which we conduct ourselves uh during

840
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200
our meetings with respect and decorum

841
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440
and and how we actually go through um

842
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040
interacting with the public. So, I I'm

843
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,919
going to make a motion on, and I did

844
00:29:46,919 --> 00:29:48,520
submit these to you and I actually made

845
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400
sure that we add section 10

846
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,480
to our

847
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160
council rules. So,

848
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,280
I'm going to make a motion

849
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,160
to add these to our council rules. If I

850
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,240
could have a second. Second.

851
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,230
Discussion.

852
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,000
Um

853
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840
I don't see anything in this could be

854
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,360
nitpicking, but I don't see anything of

855
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,080
definitions

856
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160
to even give a

857
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,880
I mean, what's professional to a well

858
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,360
digger is going to be different than

859
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960
professional to a banker.

860
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,160
I don't know that this is I know it's a

861
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520
rule and not an ordinance, but

862
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,880
doesn't that leave a lot open to

863
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,720
interpretation?

864
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,240
>> It It does and I believe it and that's

865
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880
why in there it gives

866
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,710
the presiding officer that latitude.

867
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Isn't that already under Robert's Rules,

868
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Bill?

869
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,600
Robert's Rules calls for decorum. I

870
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,200
don't know that it addresses everything

871
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880
in there.

872
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Do you feel we're okay with it the way

873
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680
it is or do we should we add some sort

874
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,520
of a definition of

875
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,200
I just saw this. Yeah. I'm not prepared

876
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,800
to Okay. speak on it. That would be my

877
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,440
only thing. You would have to look at

878
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,600
Robert's Rules. Yeah, that would be my

879
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360
only thing and Dustin not to blindside

880
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,360
you, but I didn't think of this until

881
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,280
well, you know, about 14 seconds ago.

882
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,480
Um that would be my concern is if we do

883
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,830
this and it contradicts Robert's Rules.

884
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,840
are tested procedurally

885
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,960
and by the courts.

886
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,520
I don't know if this would put us in a

887
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,400
in an I'm getting a no, so I guess I'm

888
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,720
>> Robert's Rules would come second to

889
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,680
anything that's in your council rules.

890
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Okay. If there was a hole in your

891
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,560
council rules.

892
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,720
Okay. So,

893
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,160
we would just have to make sure that

894
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,200
future mayors and presidents of council

895
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840
know what's Robert's Rules or what's

896
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,310
council rules.

897
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Okay.

898
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,000
I'm not mad at it.

899
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,120
My uh

900
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280
my concerns with this I I I I like the

901
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,000
thought of it.

902
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,240
Um

903
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,320
the one piece that I

904
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,920
kind of take in

905
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,360
some concern with is 10.04,

906
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,640
the dress code. Um

907
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,400
I'm just concerned about the uh the

908
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,880
effects that might have on members'

909
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,600
first amendment rights. So,

910
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,630
um

911
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520
That's That's my concern with this.

912
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Everything else

913
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,870
I'm with it.

914
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,160
So, You're speaking specifically to the

915
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,200
dress code.

916
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,640
>> Yeah.

917
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640
The clothing like with the wording and

918
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Right.

919
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Well, just to add a

920
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,120
pure devil's advocate.

921
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,200
What if we do away with that by just

922
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,000
having some nice embroidered shirts that

923
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,760
are our meeting shirts or something?

924
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,000
>> about that in the council. They didn't want it. Well, at that time

925
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,812
this is a totally different piece.

926
00:32:56,812 --> 00:32:56,920
>> [snorts]

927
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,560
>> I know. I I mean I I'm not saying

928
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560
definitely, but is that a compromise cuz

929
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,920
I mean, I wouldn't like that cuz I

930
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
couldn't wear my supply shirts, but

931
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,160
I mean, if that takes away bickering

932
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,720
over a backwards hat,

933
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,230
then so be it.

934
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,840
I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I guess

935
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
my my kind of thought with that one with

936
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
the dress code aspect is I mean, we have

937
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,440
US senators that wear Carhartt hoodies

938
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,000
and shorts to

939
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,679
meetings.

940
00:33:30,679 --> 00:33:31,960
>> You can say better than LA. Yeah, I

941
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,720
mean, yeah. I mean, I think most people

942
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,200
probably know, but I'm just saying when

943
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
you talk about in a professional manner,

944
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,040
okay, well,

945
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
can I not wear my hoodie? Cuz I changed

946
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,360
today before I came because I was like,

947
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,480
oh no, I need to

948
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320
look a certain way. But I mean, that was

949
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,920
kind of my thought with that. I guess I

950
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,520
do see where you're coming from, Zeke,

951
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280
with the first amendment. That I do see

952
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,400
that, but I like the premise of this. I mean, I

953
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600
because we don't have anything like this

954
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200
in there and I do believe that I think

955
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,480
we all know um

956
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,320
it it's probably necessary.

957
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,720
And as I explained before,

958
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,000
this went back a year or so ago noticing

959
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,800
that we didn't have Yeah. And then I

960
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,760
asked previously, we don't have these as

961
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
you use guardrails, right? Standards

962
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,399
that if you know, we're here to serve

963
00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:25,560
the public, we should actually

964
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560
represent them in a higher standard and

965
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,000
that's kind of where this was

966
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,879
Yeah. aimed toward, not specifically to

967
00:34:31,879 --> 00:34:33,679
pigeonhole anybody or to take anybody's

968
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,240
rights away, but to set that standard

969
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,919
where

970
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:40,080
ourselves and future

971
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,480
members of the council uh should look

972
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,320
to. And so, we have something to look

973
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,120
for if Yeah. If someone were to come in,

974
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,800
hey, what are your rules of decorum?

975
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,760
Well, that's goes to Robert's Rules if

976
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,480
you're by default, but Yeah. you know,

977
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,919
if you don't have anything that you have

978
00:34:52,919 --> 00:34:54,040
that you're going to set a standard and

979
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,000
at some point if we need to amend that

980
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,440
or change that or remove that,

981
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,560
I I'm not opposed to those

982
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,640
conversations. I'm not opposed to, you

983
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,760
know, having a certain uniform and and I

984
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,880
don't know what the senator from

985
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Pennsylvania, what he has to incur.

986
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Maybe they have a fine in Senate because

987
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,440
he has I don't know.

988
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,880
>> There might be I I don't know. There

989
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,960
might be. I never thought Of course that

990
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,520
is not imposed here. There's no fine, of

991
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,640
course here, but

992
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,600
um

993
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600
it it gives us So, instead of being

994
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,120
broad, could we go the other way? Can

995
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,359
you list specific things that

996
00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:25,840
you can't have?

997
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600
And not just professional. You can't

998
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,920
have a hat

999
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,480
when you're at the bench. You can't have

1000
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,760
a You know, well, and just leave it. I

1001
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,760
mean, don't even put professional

1002
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,960
standard. Just say you shall not. Boom.

1003
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,560
I I mean,

1004
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,960
what would that be if there was a

1005
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,640
distinct

1006
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,400
>> a certain You could prepare a make a a

1007
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,880
list of certain things that could be

1008
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,320
debated for hours.

1009
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,160
>> Well,

1010
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,160
but is it a is it a way if there are

1011
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,280
certain things that are bothering you

1012
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,720
right now that that put this on your

1013
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,480
heart today?

1014
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,160
Let's list them, discuss them. If we can

1015
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,880
come to a somewhat of an agreement, we

1016
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,960
add them and if more come up, we discuss

1017
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,240
them and we add them. That's why rules

1018
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,080
can be changed

1019
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,880
as a working out. And that goes by your

1020
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,280
point as what you mentioned before,

1021
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,120
which is why which is why it kind of

1022
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,480
works

1023
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,760
>> Oh, does it? Yeah, I mean, that's

1024
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,600
exactly

1025
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,840
right.

1026
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,080
So,

1027
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,480
it and that's

1028
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,840
and I have no issues with that. If if

1029
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,560
we're not ready to move forward on this

1030
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,400
and you want to have those types of

1031
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,440
conversation, that's why I was hoping to have that ahead of time.

1032
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,440
Uh we could have worked some of those

1033
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,600
details out. If there's something

1034
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,030
specific that is

1035
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,520
has any heartburn with anybody

1036
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,400
specifically, if we should

1037
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640
list something specific or if there are

1038
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,359
items. I did try to keep these

1039
00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:46,840
non-specific

1040
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,720
as a list because I mean, you could you

1041
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,120
could make a list 10 pages long and

1042
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680
nitpick every single one. And you know,

1043
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,120
rather than just having a general

1044
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,720
standard that we can abide by and maybe

1045
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,320
dis- disagree on. That's I have no

1046
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,040
problem with that. But rather than

1047
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,480
nitpicking because somebody has a

1048
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,520
different type of sock,

1049
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,240
uh

1050
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,600
that's that totally avoids the whole the

1051
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,200
whole purpose of this. Will Bill still

1052
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,265
not wear that ugly suit jacket?

1053
00:37:12,265 --> 00:37:13,800
>> [laughter]

1054
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,440
>> No, that other one. The gray one or the

1055
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,630
red one?

1056
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,800
I'll just say I you know, I think from me personally, we we we made you

1057
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,840
council

1058
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,480
president and I you know, if this is on

1059
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,040
your heart to do and you feel like it's

1060
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,160
important, I don't think it's anything

1061
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,040
we're not already doing.

1062
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,359
So, I

1063
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:34,520
you know, my support can move forward

1064
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,720
with this. So, without going through the

1065
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,800
process of laying it, do we just want to

1066
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,760
Yeah. vote on it or do we take it or

1067
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,800
not?

1068
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,840
Yeah. You got a first and a second. You

1069
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,040
have to Wait, wait, wait. wait, wait,

1070
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,720
You had a first and a second. You had

1071
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,920
discussion. You can either table it or

1072
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,720
you can vote on it now, friends. Vote.

1073
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:54,840
Yes.

1074
00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:02,310
Vote. I make a motion to adopt. Roll call.

1075
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Yes. Jared. Yes. Zeke. Yes. Patricia.

1076
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,160
Yes. Courtney. Yes. Dustin. Yes.

1077
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,760
Thank you.

1078
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,870
Congratulations, sir, on your first.

1079
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,640
All right, Jay, sorry for the delay on

1080
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,040
that.

1081
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,076
>> problem.

1082
00:38:19,076 --> 00:38:19,720
>> [laughter]

1083
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,280
>> I know your name came up earlier in in

1084
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,400
the meeting. I didn't know if you wanted

1085
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,560
to add anything to that or you have

1086
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160
You did a great job explaining what what

1087
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,800
went on. Everything went well, so Okay.

1088
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Did you have any concerns out of

1089
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,640
the meeting?

1090
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Yeah. Just a just a time frame. They came up with a time frame that was

1091
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160
seemed to be unreasonable to me.

1092
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,840
But other than that, I mean, you know,

1093
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,200
everything that they brought in would

1094
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,760
have to be voted on by emergency, which

1095
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,000
we decided we weren't going to do.

1096
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,320
We were going to

1097
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,280
make everybody wait the whole 90 days

1098
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,359
on everything that was talked about. So,

1099
00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:54,240
that's our only thing that really

1100
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:54,760
concerned me.

1101
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,520
>> it have to be emergency?

1102
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,680
Do what? Why would it have to be

1103
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,880
emergency?

1104
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,200
Something to do with a rebate for solar

1105
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,440
that they were going to be able to get,

1106
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,080
but they had to turn it in by a certain

1107
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
date and they had to show What I'm

1108
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,640
hearing is their lack of planning has

1109
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,240
now become our emergency. Th- Yeah.

1110
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,120
That That's what they were hoping.

1111
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,240
Okay.

1112
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,160
But other than that, everything else

1113
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,480
seemed more than reasonable. They got

1114
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,600
They were bringing in a lot of good

1115
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
jobs, going to have a lot of people

1116
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,000
hired, so

1117
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,280
it would help the community.

1118
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Thank you. Thanks for taking your time

1119
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,280
today. Thanks, Jay. You bet.

1120
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,200
All right, committee reports. Land Use

1121
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Committee. Do you want to Yeah, so we

1122
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,200
set a new chair.

1123
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,600
We're lucky enough to meet with some

1124
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,440
potential developers.

1125
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,280
Um

1126
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,720
and then

1127
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:42,440
our next meeting is going to be April

1128
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,760
15th.

1129
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560
So, tax day?

1130
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,720
Tax evening. Take your Take your mind

1131
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,760
off of these things.

1132
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680
We can talk about the city of Hilliard.

1133
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,707
Thank you. Appreciate that.

1134
00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:56,400
[clears throat]

1135
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Okay, now we're public comments. Keep in

1136
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,480
mind we have several of them signed up.

1137
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,800
As I call your name, please step

1138
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,160
forward,

1139
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480
um, indicate your address, and you will

1140
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,240
have 5 minutes to speak

1141
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,560
on the topic that you choose. Uh, first

1142
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:18,430
on the list, Ron Jan.

1143
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,960
My name is Ron Jan.

1144
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,280
I'm a not a resident of the village. I'm

1145
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,200
a Norwich Township trustee. I live on

1146
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000
104, south of town. If you'll indulge

1147
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,320
me, I would like to speak briefly on

1148
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,680
something from the township and then

1149
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,080
something about myself.

1150
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,560
Um, the concerns that I have

1151
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,560
uh,

1152
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680
as a trustee is I've been contacted by

1153
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
some township residents expressing

1154
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,000
concerns about the development on McCord

1155
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Road.

1156
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,480
Uh, questions I couldn't answer. Uh,

1157
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,280
what is the plan for McCord Road

1158
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,480
to handle the extra traffic? As we all

1159
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,560
know,

1160
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,960
the village annexed back then a portion

1161
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200
of the road like the center line there,

1162
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920
but you get beyond that, that road is

1163
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,280
very narrow

1164
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,640
and it's

1165
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640
not in great shape.

1166
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,680
And, you know, from the discussions we

1167
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,640
have,

1168
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,240
I don't know that the township has the

1169
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,720
funds to redo that road on either side

1170
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,000
of what the village has, so

1171
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,800
my concern or concern I had from

1172
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,120
residents was

1173
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
is there something that you guys can do

1174
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,920
that have a developer

1175
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,280
absorb some of that cost or what's the

1176
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,160
plan for the additional traffic or

1177
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,840
um,

1178
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,600
those type of questions. If anybody has

1179
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,880
anything else, they can reach out to one

1180
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,080
of us trustees and discuss it with us.

1181
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,040
Um,

1182
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,960
and that's all I have as a trustee. Ron,

1183
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,800
would you stay through our additional

1184
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,520
business so we can

1185
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,400
talk back and forth about that?

1186
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,360
About the road? Mhm. Yeah, I can stay.

1187
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Thank you.

1188
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,520
Sorry, Dustin. Nope, it's fine.

1189
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,840
Um, so the other part comes as me

1190
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,040
personally.

1191
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,160
Um,

1192
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,560
I'm sure everybody's watched our meeting

1193
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,320
from last Thursday. There was a little

1194
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,400
bit of a heated discussion.

1195
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,760
Oops, not a little bit, it was a lot of

1196
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,120
heated discussion,

1197
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,680
and I want to apologize to the community

1198
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,600
for losing my temper.

1199
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,080
I'm not going to apologize for what I

1200
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
said because I still stand behind it,

1201
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,600
but I should have been adult enough to

1202
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,760
not lose my temper and do that.

1203
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,640
being said, since then,

1204
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,360
uh,

1205
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,840
my character, my reputation, and several

1206
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,640
things have been trashed on social media

1207
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,480
since then.

1208
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,440
So, I am here to clear the air.

1209
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,800
I have not received any payments, any

1210
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,880
money, was involved in any discussions

1211
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,720
with

1212
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,080
data centers, land development,

1213
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,640
anything like that. The anything I did

1214
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,920
was a video that popped up on social

1215
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,240
media today.

1216
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,720
Shows me sitting in the council meeting

1217
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,240
back there,

1218
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,560
and I want to explain that.

1219
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,760
I was asked by the developer, my mom

1220
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,440
owned 5 acres.

1221
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,480
That was all she owned. That was all I

1222
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,960
was involved in.

1223
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,760
My uncle owned the other thing. He sold

1224
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,040
that. He bought the land, it was his to

1225
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,600
sell.

1226
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,600
I'm old school, I believe in land

1227
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,440
owner's rights. He wrote the check, he

1228
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,480
should be able to do what he wanted to

1229
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,240
do.

1230
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:10,680
He sold it to the developer. I asked him

1231
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,120
not to sell it, to keep it. He chose to

1232
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,080
sell it.

1233
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,480
The developer wrote the check and bought

1234
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,560
it, so that's it.

1235
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,840
The night that I was in the council

1236
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,000
meeting,

1237
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,920
I was asked to come. My mom had had a

1238
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,640
stroke, she couldn't come

1239
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,360
by herself.

1240
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,160
So, I was asked to come and just

1241
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,320
basically tell the council that mom had

1242
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400
decided to sell her property on her own.

1243
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,120
That's what I did.

1244
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,640
I decided to stay and listen to the

1245
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,440
council meeting.

1246
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Um, I sat right there in that chair

1247
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,360
watching the TV.

1248
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
wouldn't work.

1249
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,320
Mayor Goldhart came out in the room,

1250
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,680
tried to fix the TV. I was the only one

1251
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,840
here, only one in the room.

1252
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,840
He said, "I'm not going to stand here

1253
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,040
and try to fix this." He said,

1254
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,280
"Come back here, sit in the corner,

1255
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,640
don't say a word."

1256
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,760
He said you'll get the same effect as

1257
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,680
watching TV, so that's what I did.

1258
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Anybody can watch the minutes from that

1259
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,040
meeting.

1260
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,520
That's what I did. I had no input, no

1261
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,800
thing. I just sat there and listened the

1262
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,920
same as I would have been listening on

1263
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,880
this TV.

1264
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480
I've been accused of all kinds of stuff.

1265
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,800
Tonia,

1266
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,880
I have nothing.

1267
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,040
I have given almost 40 years of my life

1268
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,960
to public service.

1269
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,280
I was a firefighter, paramedic, and

1270
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,640
retired as a lieutenant from Jackson

1271
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,080
Township North City

1272
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,000
for almost 30 years.

1273
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Since then, I was a township trustee for

1274
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,040
4 years. There was 2 years I wasn't, and

1275
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,480
then I'm back in again. I've been 2

1276
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,680
years again. The date on that thing

1277
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,840
posted

1278
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,560
in 2022, I was not even a township

1279
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,920
trustee.

1280
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,359
I had messed up my petition and couldn't

1281
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:42,480
run.

1282
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,480
So, the characterization that I was a

1283
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,440
council trustee sitting in that building

1284
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120
is completely false.

1285
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,880
I was not there I'm as a trustee. I was

1286
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,480
there as Ron Jan representing my mother,

1287
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,640
but when I went back in that room, I was

1288
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,880
just a citizen that could have been

1289
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,960
sitting out there, but the mayor and

1290
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,680
assistant invited me back so he could be

1291
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
back in there

1292
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,520
and not do that. So, I guess to my

1293
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,560
point,

1294
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,000
I hope that this is not what our

1295
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,560
community has come down to.

1296
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,880
You know, if somebody has a disagreement

1297
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
with somebody,

1298
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,990
they just trash them to no end.

1299
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Yeah, because if that's what it's come

1300
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000
down to, maybe I don't need to belong to

1301
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,600
this community.

1302
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,800
I've been here for 55 years.

1303
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,000
Not many people can say that.

1304
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,510
So, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jan.

1305
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,910
Next up, I have Scott O'Neal.

1306
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,200
9217 McCord Road.

1307
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,280
I'm here to speak again, just like Ron

1308
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,760
did, about McCord Road.

1309
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,480
Asking the village

1310
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,320
to go to the developer

1311
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,760
for the project on McCord and the rest

1312
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,560
roads to ask them

1313
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200
to enhance the roads around there.

1314
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,359
Off-site improvements

1315
00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:02,080
are typical of developments.

1316
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,920
It is not a problem for the developer to

1317
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,560
be asked and or possibly mandated

1318
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,840
to fix McCord Road

1319
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,600
with whether it needs base repairs,

1320
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,880
complete replacement,

1321
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,440
widening, things like that.

1322
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Not opposed to development happening.

1323
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,359
There just needs to be steps

1324
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:23,240
that this council

1325
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:25,560
ensures are taken.

1326
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,200
The township had a

1327
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,640
one of their medics

1328
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,640
sideswipe mirrors with a dually not far

1329
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,600
from my house on McCord Road.

1330
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,720
School buses can't pass each other

1331
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,840
without driving off the road to go

1332
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,960
around. They're literally in the grass

1333
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,160
heading towards the ditch to pass by

1334
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,320
each other.

1335
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,120
That's not safe.

1336
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,720
The village needs to hold the developer

1337
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,320
accountable.

1338
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Jack and I spoke after the last meeting.

1339
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,160
He knows where I stand.

1340
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,120
I was on council, and I worked with Jack

1341
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,359
in the past.

1342
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:59,310
He is always willing to listen.

1343
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,640
And that's what council needs to do is

1344
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,240
they need to go to him

1345
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,120
and negotiate now

1346
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,480
instead of waiting to the very last

1347
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,440
minute.

1348
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,320
As far as data centers

1349
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,120
at Direct 104,

1350
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,680
I'm not saying data centers are good or

1351
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,960
bad. I don't look at them like that. I I

1352
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,640
don't worry about that, that's land

1353
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,720
owner rights. Whatever they want to do,

1354
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,200
it's their land, do whatever they want.

1355
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,200
If someone doesn't like it, they should

1356
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,349
have bought it.

1357
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,000
I called the economic development

1358
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,840
director of Hilliard.

1359
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,120
The data centers in Hilliard

1360
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,480
provide enough jobs that puts them

1361
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,280
within the top five employer within the

1362
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,120
city of Hilliard.

1363
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,400
Everybody always says that there's no

1364
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,200
jobs in data centers.

1365
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,280
Hilliard disagrees.

1366
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,400
I've looked up home values

1367
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,400
right around data centers in Hilliard.

1368
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,920
Every year they go up.

1369
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,800
There's no decrease in home value. I

1370
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,920
don't know where that comes from.

1371
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,720
I can't say whether the air's clean, I

1372
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:58,160
don't know.

1373
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,320
I don't study that. I'm not

1374
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,480
knowledgeable of that. I don't want to

1375
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,160
try to speak to that.

1376
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,720
People say data centers make noise.

1377
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,040
Maybe some do, I don't know. I stopped

1378
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,640
at one in Dublin off of 161.

1379
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,800
Went in the little court where their

1380
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,640
entrance was, stopped, shut the truck

1381
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,400
off, got out.

1382
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,720
Didn't hear a sound.

1383
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,400
Not as much as a peep.

1384
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,280
And as I'm sitting there, somebody pulls

1385
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,920
up to go to the gate to go into this,

1386
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,080
and it's an Amazon data center.

1387
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,040
The loudest thing on that whole court

1388
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,520
was somebody forgot to oil the gate, and

1389
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,120
as the gate went up, it made the

1390
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,600
noise going all the way up. That was the

1391
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
only sound you could hear.

1392
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,359
So, I don't know

1393
00:48:36,359 --> 00:48:37,840
where some of this stuff comes from, and

1394
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,359
I'm not saying it applies to all data

1395
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:40,400
centers,

1396
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,520
but just that one I've been by,

1397
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,560
the ones I've actually looked at with

1398
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,400
Hilliard, that economic development

1399
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,200
director, I asked him if he could go

1400
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,640
back in time,

1401
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,880
would he invite data centers to

1402
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Hilliard?

1403
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,520
He said, "Absolutely."

1404
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,400
They've provided millions and millions

1405
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,480
of dollars.

1406
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,240
And I know money's not everything,

1407
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,560
but money can help

1408
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,320
kids that are less fortunate play ball

1409
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,240
over here when they're growing up.

1410
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:06,440
You know, I've talked to some people

1411
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,720
that said the only reason they can play

1412
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,720
ball over here when they were little was

1413
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:12,800
because of nice donations.

1414
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,400
Maybe the data centers are going to be

1415
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,320
banned in the future.

1416
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,480
If you guys choose that, that's fine.

1417
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,080
Maybe we have one that's going to sneak

1418
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,000
in under the wire.

1419
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Maybe rather than fighting it,

1420
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120
maybe we work with it.

1421
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,840
Maybe we ask them for big donations.

1422
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,560
Maybe we ask them for

1423
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,040
different things.

1424
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,640
Every event that the city of Hilliard

1425
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,800
has is sponsored by Amazon.

1426
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,040
Every one.

1427
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,680
It's not a conflict of interest, it's

1428
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,520
not an ethical dilemma.

1429
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,720
There's nothing to look into.

1430
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:45,160
I know everybody wants to scream that

1431
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,680
down here,

1432
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,240
but it's been done. It's tried, it's

1433
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,400
true,

1434
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,440
it's legal, it's feasible.

1435
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Just have to ask.

1436
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,240
And it's it's a cooperation between

1437
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:57,680
developers,

1438
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,160
cooperation between Amazon,

1439
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,240
and it's cooperation between the

1440
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,240
village.

1441
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:05,240
Just something to take think about.

1442
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,080
Call the economic development director

1443
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,960
in Hilliard. I'll give you his number.

1444
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,840
I gave it to Ezekiel. I'm not sure if he

1445
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,120
called him or not.

1446
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,000
Said he would.

1447
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,320
He'd probably tell him the same thing he

1448
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,360
told me.

1449
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,440
So, we don't have to go broke

1450
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,880
fighting Amazon.

1451
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,720
We could work with them. We could have

1452
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,560
big mounds, we could have 30-ft piles of

1453
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,320
dirt around the place

1454
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,560
where it'd never be seen from the road.

1455
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,240
Put trees and dirt.

1456
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:34,680
I'm sure if you ask them, they'll

1457
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,560
probably like cut a check and put dirt

1458
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,280
and trees up.

1459
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Just have to ask.

1460
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,670
Thank you. Thanks, Scott.

1461
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,720
Jason Height.

1462
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,840
Uh 72 Chambers Bay Road.

1463
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Uh good afternoon everybody or good

1464
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,120
evening. Um

1465
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,880
So, I don't have 55 years here.

1466
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,280
I've got about 9 months here.

1467
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,800
So, but my wife and I

1468
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,440
moved here after almost 30 years in the

1469
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,040
military and 4 years retiring after

1470
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,960
that.

1471
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,400
Um ask me 2 years ago,

1472
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,920
I didn't know what Commercial Point was.

1473
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,320
I knew where Ohio was. That's about it.

1474
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,520
So,

1475
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,400
my wife and I decided, being particular,

1476
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,360
we're moving to a new community,

1477
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,480
not moving again,

1478
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,040
to the best of our knowledge.

1479
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,640
And I can get into the local politics

1480
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,320
and find out what's going on here.

1481
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,480
So, you all have seen me sitting here,

1482
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,200
haven't made any noise, just thought I'd

1483
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,400
sit back and listen. I went to a trustee

1484
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,800
meeting

1485
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,040
and I saw enough there and made a

1486
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,600
decision to sit here.

1487
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Um I went through some of the

1488
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,160
resolutions and ordinances. I just have

1489
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,920
some questions on it that maybe you guys

1490
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,800
think about what you're talking about.

1491
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,640
All right?

1492
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,080
Uh resolution nine

1493
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,640
has a 180-day moratorium um moratorium.

1494
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,880
Okay, section 1A allows

1495
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,680
zoning and rezoning that's currently in

1496
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,160
the legislative process to continue.

1497
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,240
1B and 1C don't have that.

1498
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:08,520
Okay, so you have resolution 08 2026

1499
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,440
having its first reading tonight.

1500
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,000
07 2026, an ordinance

1501
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,160
2026-05 both have their second reading

1502
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,440
tonight. And resolution one

1503
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,200
uh 2026 is currently taped. So, do those

1504
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,160
get to continue?

1505
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,880
It's not in that resolution that they

1506
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,240
get to continue if you guys pass this

1507
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,400
tonight.

1508
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,520
Okay?

1509
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,960
Uh ordinance Oh,

1510
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,280
and 1E applies to data centers.

1511
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,440
So, I'm not sure why you have a 180-day

1512
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,400
moratorium on this resolution for data

1513
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,440
centers

1514
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,000
when ordinance

1515
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,880
26-0

1516
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,320
09

1517
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,880
has an 18-month

1518
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,640
moratorium on

1519
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,720
data centers. So, I don't know if it's a

1520
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:51,240
backup plan or

1521
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:52,480
they work coordinate or whatever that

1522
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,840
may be.

1523
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Um

1524
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,760
issue with doing ordinances 09 and 10

1525
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,040
is

1526
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,080
10 identifies two properties

1527
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:05,720
that

1528
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:07,080
apparently,

1529
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,440
to my knowledge,

1530
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,720
um have approval at some point, whether

1531
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,520
that's 2023

1532
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,720
ordinance which you guys are trying to

1533
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,710
consider or not,

1534
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,120
I'm not sure.

1535
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,400
Okay?

1536
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Section four identifies those. It also

1537
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,880
states that

1538
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,670
um

1539
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,080
the discontinuance of such use that has

1540
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,640
been granted with that for 12 months

1541
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,760
uh

1542
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,320
would then terminate the non-conforming

1543
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,680
status.

1544
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,240
So, if you go into an 18-month

1545
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,320
moratorium, that exceeds the 12 months.

1546
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,120
So, are they by default not able to be a

1547
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,230
data center?

1548
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:47,800
So, that's the question.

1549
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,000
Uh

1550
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,160
So,

1551
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,640
in summary,

1552
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,680
uh are the two properties that are

1553
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,359
identified allowed to move forward

1554
00:53:54,359 --> 00:53:55,760
legally?

1555
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,280
Okay? If they are, I think the council

1556
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
needs to look at that reality once you

1557
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,000
go through this evening and whether 180

1558
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,359
days or 18 months to figure out the

1559
00:54:04,359 --> 00:54:05,600
risks

1560
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,240
uh that can be mitigated that have been

1561
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,600
identified. They've got cooling systems

1562
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,240
now. AWS does that. I did that research

1563
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,560
today. Noise mitigation. Okay?

1564
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,800
Um whatever your results are, up front

1565
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,560
announce it to the residents and the

1566
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,000
community as a whole.

1567
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,320
And if you go forward with it because

1568
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,680
legally through the courts they say you

1569
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,280
have to, are you guys planning that out

1570
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080
beforehand?

1571
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,480
Then work with the developers as

1572
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,720
discussed earlier.

1573
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,480
And if not,

1574
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,280
you guys are the conscious we voted for.

1575
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:41,270
So, thank you.

1576
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,270
Okay, next up is Mike Helser.

1577
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,480
I'm at 313 Creekview Drive.

1578
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,200
Um my name is Mike Helser. Um

1579
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,680
we uh purchased or we're new to the

1580
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,520
community. We purchased our home. Um

1581
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,520
we're the second owner. Um

1582
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,600
I'm here to speak regarding the

1583
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,760
continued flooding that is occurring on

1584
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,400
our property. Um I do have photos of

1585
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:08,230
them I'll pass around.

1586
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:09,720
Um due to being the second owner of this

1587
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,040
property, uh I don't have the dates as

1588
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,560
to when the issue began. The property

1589
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,800
and the drains were placed on those at

1590
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,720
311 uh Creekview. The flooding is

1591
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,720
affecting our property on 313 along with

1592
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,000
309.

1593
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,160
Uh there is a field behind the homes on

1594
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,800
Creekview Drive that has the runoff um

1595
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,160
the river water that flows down the

1596
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,280
property of 311 that's flowing onto

1597
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,760
other properties.

1598
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,880
Um I also have student works individuals

1599
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,200
when the storm catch basins were placed

1600
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,359
and no one can advise me of the date.

1601
00:55:38,359 --> 00:55:40,200
Um my wife and I have been in contact

1602
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,520
with numerous people regarding the

1603
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,760
continued issues. We have spoken with

1604
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Dave Riley, the village administrator,

1605
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,560
um Mike Schrockman in the street

1606
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,359
department, Charles Baker, personally

1607
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:51,440
contacted DR Horton,

1608
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,520
um Brian Wilkins who is a resident

1609
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,120
residential building official in the

1610
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,120
city of Circleville,

1611
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,040
um Trish Anderson uh Omni Group um with

1612
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,880
the HOA. We contacted AEP, uh Pickaway

1613
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,000
County, um Devin Weller who is the

1614
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,200
landowner of property behind,

1615
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,160
um and also Jack um

1616
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,320
with uh DR Horton.

1617
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,200
Uh we were told by Dave Riley Charles

1618
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Baker that once the if once and if the

1619
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,480
development goes behind our houses that

1620
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,400
um the problem would be fixed, but at

1621
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,000
this time we have no idea when that will

1622
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,120
happen.

1623
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,400
Um when and you know, if it will be

1624
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,320
fixed.

1625
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,040
If

1626
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,000
and then if the draining or drainage

1627
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,280
would be corrected um you know, and stay

1628
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,720
fixed. But there's no guarantee. As you

1629
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,160
can see from the photos, our electrical

1630
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,000
box, internet box is almost completely

1631
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,760
submerged. This is

1632
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,000
uh not only a flooding issue, but a

1633
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,440
safety issue in our backyard. The

1634
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,520
electrical box, internet box

1635
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,840
um during the time of flooding were

1636
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,200
almost completely submerged. Um both

1637
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,160
boxes were only an inch away from being

1638
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,200
completely under water per AEP. And

1639
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,440
after speaking with Taylor at AEP, she

1640
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,280
stated that it is not considered a

1641
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,400
safety issue or to be moved until the

1642
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,240
electrical box is completely out of

1643
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,920
power. Um she stated they would not turn

1644
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,960
our electric electric back on until we

1645
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,760
fix the inspection.

1646
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,440
Um then this would be up to the

1647
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,440
homeowner as to you know, when the

1648
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,960
drains are fixed in their yard. Um they

1649
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,120
would need to be inspected and approved.

1650
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Um

1651
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,120
the neighbor uh

1652
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,120
the neighbor at 309 and my wife both

1653
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,520
work from home. Uh they would both be

1654
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,120
out of employment until you know, this

1655
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,359
resolved and um you know, our electric's

1656
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:30,240
turned back on. Um we can't make any

1657
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,000
improvements or put anything in place in

1658
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,400
our backyard

1659
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,680
uh because of the risk of flooding and

1660
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,960
damage to our property. Um it's like the

1661
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,920
fence that was already installed when we

1662
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,080
purchased our home. Our homes are also

1663
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,400
not considered in a flood zone. So, if

1664
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,760
there is damage to our property, I'm

1665
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,200
being told that it would not be covered

1666
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,560
because we're not in a flood zone.

1667
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,040
After speaking to text and email with

1668
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,240
Charles Baker and Jack with DR Horton,

1669
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,120
Charles Baker stated that the HOA would

1670
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,080
come out and clean the drains and to

1671
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,840
make sure that there was no obstructions

1672
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,440
um in the flow of the water.

1673
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,640
Uh we were told it was completed. The

1674
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,560
flooding still occurred again after that

1675
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,280
on March 24th.

1676
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,600
They are aware that um the pipe that

1677
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,080
it's a French drain, it's a 4-in pipe.

1678
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Um and that the last update that we

1679
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,400
received from Jack

1680
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,040
with DR Horton is that they were going

1681
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,920
to cut windows or holes in the three

1682
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640
sides of the uh the drains

1683
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,359
um adjacent to the field. They are

1684
00:58:22,359 --> 00:58:23,720
stating that these holes will allow

1685
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,160
significantly more storm water into the

1686
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,480
storm lane their storm drains.

1687
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,960
Uh I want to know is there going to be a

1688
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,160
push uh with the issue regarding the

1689
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,600
continued flooding if there isn't a

1690
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,800
resolution from I'm being advised

1691
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,359
numerous homes are being affected by

1692
00:58:38,359 --> 00:58:40,280
improper draining in our community. Can

1693
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,960
the council push to go through and hold

1694
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,240
DR Horton accountable for this?

1695
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,800
It should not be up to the homeowners

1696
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,560
when DR Horton is aware

1697
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,960
uh that the pipe that they had put in

1698
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,200
was too small. Uh after listening to

1699
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,240
everything I have provided including

1700
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,760
documentation,

1701
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,520
um I want to know if you know, if and

1702
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,640
when approved for the the homes being

1703
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,560
built behind us, will there be continued

1704
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,440
um will will there be continued

1705
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,320
accountability for like the drainage

1706
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,040
like once they're installed? And can we

1707
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,240
have legislation that if it is

1708
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,800
installed, can this draining issue be

1709
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,800
fixed before anything else

1710
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,040
um set forth for the development? That's

1711
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,310
what I'd like to ask.

1712
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,960
During this time period, we just do

1713
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,760
public comments. So, at this point we

1714
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,160
won't be able to answer the questions.

1715
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Public comment. Okay. Public comment.

1716
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,280
Thank you. You're sure.

1717
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,950
Thank

1718
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:44,910
Corey Wasmes

1719
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Good evening. Corey Wasmes, 12930 Gibson

1720
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,080
Road.

1721
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,280
Uh first of all, thank you all for

1722
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,000
all you've done.

1723
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,000
I'm just going to speak from the heart.

1724
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,160
I don't really have too much prepared,

1725
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,520
but uh

1726
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:57,840
like Trustee Jan, I did want to bring

1727
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,400
that up first thing, you know, with the

1728
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,960
court road. It is a very narrow road. Uh

1729
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,240
I know working that when we were

1730
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,480
snowplowing, thinking it's kind of odd

1731
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,360
when you first turn off onto it off of

1732
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,040
Durrett, it's kind of sloped down on the

1733
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,480
one side.

1734
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,760
It'd be hard

1735
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,920
very difficult just to widen the thing.

1736
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Uh but if there is a big development to

1737
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,440
go back there, the thing I'm looking you

1738
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,760
guys approved, it'll bring a significant

1739
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,280
amount of added traffic. So, there's no

1740
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,760
doubt it'll be a big impact and who it

1741
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,960
always comes down to who's going to pay

1742
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,360
for that. You know, it's majority it's

1743
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,040
all township road except for that one

1744
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,000
section you guys annexed.

1745
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,440
From what I understand, you only annexed

1746
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,320
to the center line of that road. So,

1747
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,880
it's it's difficult

1748
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,240
right now, but if we can come to some

1749
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,440
kind of agreement, and I know it's

1750
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,640
already been annexed and stuff, but as

1751
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,920
you go through this process, it would

1752
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,440
help greatly if we could help each other

1753
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,240
out instead of it landing on all the tax

1754
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,000
dollar township taxpayers. Uh same kind

1755
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,480
of thing, if I could go personally,

1756
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,640
um I just want to say

1757
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,360
seeing how things have evolved over the last

1758
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,520
12 months, I'd say,

1759
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,760
um

1760
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,760
from a council where at one point we

1761
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,320
come in and we weren't even sure if we'd

1762
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,040
be allowed to talk or not, you know, uh

1763
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,240
speaking as a resident, to now you guys

1764
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,920
are extremely open, transparent. I mean,

1765
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,800
you guys have made strides.

1766
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,680
I remember back then talking to somebody

1767
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:17,600
like,

1768
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,800
you know,

1769
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,280
isn't there some people, like some

1770
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,320
patriots, to step up and lead this

1771
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,800
community? And they said,

1772
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,040
you know, it's always been a struggle

1773
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,360
just getting people that want to run.

1774
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,000
But look, what was there? 12, over a

1775
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,200
dozen people that wanted to run and

1776
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,520
different things with

1777
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,200
petitions, they few fell out, but you

1778
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,920
guys, you know, succeeded and you're

1779
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080
here, and we're glad you're here, and

1780
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,320
the ones that are still here, Eric and

1781
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,400
Jay,

1782
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,840
uh same with you guys, can't say I'm proud of you guys just personally.

1783
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,400
Um

1784
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,880
well in the work bringing in these new

1785
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,920
fellows, Shay, Justin, he's been here,

1786
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,280
kind of seems like he's always been on

1787
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,480
council, he's been through it all. Uh

1788
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,200
now you're sitting in the mayor's spot,

1789
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,000
at least for tonight. So, uh

1790
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,640
appreciate you, but just know

1791
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,720
I know there's somebody standing here

1792
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,520
not too long ago threatening you with

1793
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,480
major litigation, talking about $500,000

1794
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,400
retainers per attorney. I can tell you

1795
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,880
that is very threatening, you know that,

1796
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,440
but I can also tell you there's a lot of

1797
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,600
people that are in this community that

1798
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,960
have your back. They're praying for you.

1799
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,840
They know that what you're up against,

1800
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,520
it's a giant, but we know somebody a lot

1801
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,120
bigger than any giant that's walking

1802
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,720
this earth, so um just know that we're

1803
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,840
here with you and you have all the

1804
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,080
courage and encouragement straight your

1805
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:39,390
way. So, appreciate all you being here.

1806
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,708
Uh next up, Ken Henning, located

1807
01:02:41,708 --> 01:02:42,040
>> [clears throat]

1808
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,990
>> Is that correct, Ken?

1809
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,480
I got some pictures to pass around. Some

1810
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,480
of them might be some duplicates from

1811
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,600
Mr. Helzer.

1812
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,270
I live at uh 311 Creekview Drive.

1813
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,280
Same kind of like crazy flooding. Um

1814
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,600
he's pretty much spoke on everything,

1815
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,240
but going to the drain problem.

1816
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,640
This is the tile that D.R. Horton put in

1817
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,600
as a secondary drain.

1818
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,440
Some of the pictures you guys will see,

1819
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,880
you see that there's a there's a major

1820
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,840
storm drain which goes to the street.

1821
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,160
This is the tile that goes on the other

1822
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,600
side of the yard, it's right next to

1823
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,840
um Mr. Helzer's property as well.

1824
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,080
So, cutting holes in this

1825
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,440
will not take care of the problem. Last

1826
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,320
time this yard flooded,

1827
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,440
this picked this tile up

1828
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,720
and it laid 6 ft from my house.

1829
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,960
So, that drain is not even it's free

1830
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,640
floating now.

1831
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,640
It rained again, yard's still flooded

1832
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,360
with this tile.

1833
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,680
So, what we're proposing to D.R. Horton

1834
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,360
is to come in and possibly redo this and

1835
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,200
put a bigger box drain in, maybe the

1836
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,600
same size as what's already installed,

1837
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,760
you know, to begin with.

1838
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,240
It's a 24 by 24,

1839
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,359
if I do believe, 24 deep

1840
01:03:57,359 --> 01:03:59,280
box drain that D.R. Horton put in

1841
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,560
originally.

1842
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,920
This right here, this is probably only 4

1843
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,200
in deep.

1844
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,720
And then that pipe, that 4 in pipe then

1845
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,720
runs to the big storm drain,

1846
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,240
and then it goes to the street.

1847
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,480
So,

1848
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,099
that's where I'm at with the flooding.

1849
01:04:12,099 --> 01:04:12,280
>> [snorts]

1850
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,840
>> We just we're asking D.R. Horton to come

1851
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,680
out and

1852
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,200
rip the yard up if they have to, I don't care, but I mean,

1853
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,520
the pictures you'll see there

1854
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,560
of the final grade before the sodding,

1855
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,760
you'll see the significant erosion

1856
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,120
since

1857
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,600
the flooding has happened. So, my yard

1858
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,320
now has a huge slope. The more and more

1859
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,800
this floods, the closer and closer this

1860
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,320
comes to my house.

1861
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,160
The last time that this flooded, it was

1862
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,240
6 ft from my foundation. My sump pump

1863
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,080
was going crazy.

1864
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,920
We have no flood insurance. If that

1865
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,640
electric goes out, so does my sump.

1866
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,480
So,

1867
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,160
I got to protect my assets and my

1868
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,080
neighbors. Mr. Biggs is going to be up

1869
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,680
here next. You know, I live literally

1870
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,840
right between Helzer

1871
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,520
and Mr. Biggs. So, that's what we're

1872
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,040
just asking for is D.R. Horton just I

1873
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,560
mean,

1874
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:07,240
help us, you know, I mean, we're trying to protect our assets here.

1875
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:15,110
So, that's all I got. Thank you.

1876
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,359
Robert Biggs

1877
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:18,840
I'll go on to my issue with D.R. Horton.

1878
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,480
As you can see, we were all neighbors

1879
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:21,530
there who all um

1880
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:21,880
>> [clears throat]

1881
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,200
>> deal with the flooding.

1882
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,440
Um this [snorts] year there's a

1883
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,720
electrical box that was 1 in away from

1884
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,200
blowing and nobody had electricity on

1885
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,160
the whole block. And I don't know if

1886
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,040
D.R. Horton will come back out and

1887
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,359
repair that or how long we'd be out of

1888
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:35,359
electricity if that ever happens again.

1889
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:37,200
The small drain that comes through feeds

1890
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,680
into the bigger drain that's uh running

1891
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,040
across our yards.

1892
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,760
So, all that water comes in from that

1893
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,320
field, goes into that small drain that

1894
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,240
feeds into the big drain. That small

1895
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,960
drain, when it feeds into the big drain,

1896
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,800
it was almost up to where that small

1897
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,240
drain couldn't even feed into the big

1898
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,160
drain.

1899
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,240
Um we have over 4 ft of standing water.

1900
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,400
We had ducks out there thinking it was a

1901
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,320
pond.

1902
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,000
It is a lot of water out there, and

1903
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,640
we're just looking for some help from

1904
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,160
D.R. Horton. Um I know we're talking

1905
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,720
about putting some slits in and some

1906
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,280
windows, but

1907
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,560
we don't think that's going to help, but

1908
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,680
we do need some help with the flooding.

1909
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:13,230
Thank you.

1910
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:20,390
Last up, uh Bruce Moore.

1911
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,160
12491 Gibson Road.

1912
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,200
As many of you know, I represent several

1913
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,200
of the developers here in this

1914
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,160
community, including Canova, who

1915
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,040
recently filed a major site plan for the

1916
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,440
same property. [snorts]

1917
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:32,600
Today, there are four pieces of

1918
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,359
legislation on your agenda.

1919
01:06:34,359 --> 01:06:36,080
Um four pieces of legislation on your

1920
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,080
agenda that directly affect directly

1921
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,880
affect all of the developers in this

1922
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,280
community.

1923
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,680
And what I'm here to ask for today is

1924
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,400
what all of you have mentioned time and

1925
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,600
time again,

1926
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,440
and what many of you ran on,

1927
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,200
transparency. We heard Council member

1928
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,200
Miller say that he wanted the community

1929
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,120
to engage, but yet seems to have intent

1930
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,080
or plan to pass three of these pieces of

1931
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,840
legislation tonight.

1932
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,160
How do we have members of the community

1933
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,440
engage with council if legislation

1934
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,800
that's proposed placed on an agenda on a

1935
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,160
Wednesday or a Thursday before,

1936
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,880
and then it's a holiday. I would say

1937
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,080
that most of the community outside of

1938
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,120
these council members up here haven't

1939
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,160
even seen what's actually on those

1940
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,520
resolutions and those ordinances.

1941
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,440
So, what we're asking for is that you

1942
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,080
give that 90-day opportunity that Jay

1943
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,359
was talking about for legislation.

1944
01:07:28,359 --> 01:07:30,240
Let it work through the process. We

1945
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,840
heard community members tonight speak

1946
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,760
about the benefits of data centers. We

1947
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,960
heard them speak about mitigation.

1948
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,800
And as Mr. Miller mentioned,

1949
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,240
yes, if these get passed, it could lead

1950
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,800
to a fight, but nobody wants to fight.

1951
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,160
But who's not going to protect their

1952
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,600
property rights? You heard people here

1953
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,760
today that are trying to protect their

1954
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,520
property rights from flooding.

1955
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,000
Why wouldn't someone who came before

1956
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,080
this council, not these council members,

1957
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,720
but before this council, followed the

1958
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,440
process, had a property rezoned,

1959
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,520
specifically told you can only build

1960
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,800
data centers on this property, only for

1961
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,520
a year and a half later

1962
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,000
for the different council members to

1963
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,160
say, "Eh, we've changed our mind."

1964
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,800
Why wouldn't they fight to protect those

1965
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,200
property rights?

1966
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,200
But nobody wants to fight.

1967
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,680
There are mitigation measures.

1968
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,880
We want time

1969
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,400
to try to work with the village to find

1970
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,280
out what mitigation measures can be

1971
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,280
implemented in writing in a development

1972
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,480
agreement with this village.

1973
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:29,960
That way,

1974
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,719
whether it's mounding or noise

1975
01:08:31,719 --> 01:08:33,759
suppression or specific type of data

1976
01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:36,000
center, whatever those things are,

1977
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,377
that way we can incorporate

1978
01:08:37,377 --> 01:08:38,759
[clears throat] those, and we can all

1979
01:08:38,759 --> 01:08:40,719
move forward without having to fight

1980
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:42,960
unnecessarily. There can be great

1981
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,920
benefits to this community.

1982
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,400
And there can be protections put in

1983
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,520
place.

1984
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,600
Your major site plan legislation allows

1985
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,359
you as council members to put conditions

1986
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:57,600
that protect the health, safety, and

1987
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,480
welfare of your citizens on any major

1988
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:02,080
site plan that's approved.

1989
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,440
So, you aren't without recourse. It is

1990
01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:06,799
not something that you have to stop.

1991
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:08,160
You [snorts] can

1992
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,400
allow development to move forward,

1993
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,319
development that was already legislated

1994
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:16,040
in this village, to move forward without

1995
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,040
risking the people's money. Because

1996
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,000
that's what these people need an

1997
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,359
opportunity to discuss.

1998
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:24,880
As we've heard, there is a risk. It will

1999
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,160
be some expense.

2000
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,799
And

2001
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:30,560
as of right now,

2002
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,839
many of the community members that I've

2003
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:33,720
spoken with don't know that risk.

2004
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,799
They've heard that data centers are bad.

2005
01:09:35,799 --> 01:09:37,759
They've heard that they should be

2006
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:40,000
stopped, but no one asked what the cost

2007
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,200
is to stop those.

2008
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,920
And that is the question that everyone

2009
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,920
should have an opportunity to consider

2010
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,400
and to weigh in on

2011
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,200
before council votes on these pieces of

2012
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,839
legislation.

2013
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:57,030
Thank you for your time.

2014
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,320
Okay, that's all we have for public

2015
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,240
comments.

2016
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,760
We're going to move on to business

2017
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,480
items. First one up here is the

2018
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:07,200
pick up the medical research

2019
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,680
facility that was mentioned earlier.

2020
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,960
Mayor Gardner just wants us to find out

2021
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,800
if we want to proceed with a formal

2022
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,240
presentation

2023
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,200
from them if you

2024
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,680
There's anybody who wants to do that.

2025
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,200
Can we ask some questions of Dave?

2026
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:23,880
Okay,

2027
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,360
go for it. Dave, Dave Hang on. I got

2028
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,760
I can't hear you. Oh, your your

2029
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,840
microphone is kicked on. Hang on.

2030
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:31,880
Okay.

2031
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,320
My only concern is

2032
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,320
this is probably going to have some sort

2033
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,360
of waste water cooling issues.

2034
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,760
Are we going to repeal possibly

2035
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,040
something tonight and then we're going

2036
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,680
to have an issue with another place

2037
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:46,960
where they don't have any place to put

2038
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,360
their

2039
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,240
So, as far as you're asking about

2040
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,000
cooling water

2041
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,400
>> Yeah, or that or are they going to have water that could have radiation

2042
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,080
in it?

2043
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,640
Yeah. So,

2044
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,080
to my understanding, there's going to be

2045
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,080
at the very first initiative of the

2046
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,520
building is going to be just a

2047
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,520
diagnostic not testing where they're

2048
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,080
going to be doing actual x-rays or MRIs

2049
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,400
on people. Okay?

2050
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,800
This is going to be simply a data

2051
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,920
retrieval and

2052
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,840
consolidation where they where they

2053
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,240
bring pieces of of information together

2054
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,880
to

2055
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,120
and they decipher everything that's

2056
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,360
going on.

2057
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,120
So, I'm So, there

2058
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,720
So, there's not going to be any like

2059
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,240
patients

2060
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,440
coming in

2061
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,640
to do testing. Okay. Not this [snorts]

2062
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,840
time. That's my understanding. So, what

2063
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,040
we're doing is

2064
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,480
because it's not over and this is this

2065
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:43,480
is not for you to answer, but

2066
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:45,200
because it's not over a certain square

2067
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,080
footage and meet the definition of a

2068
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,720
data center, they're going to just call

2069
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,880
it something else and put it under the square

2070
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:53,640
>> Well, there are

2071
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:54,840
there

2072
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,160
They said there would be computers

2073
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,760
there. There would be some electronic

2074
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,119
stores there, but there would be

2075
01:11:59,119 --> 01:11:59,640
[snorts]

2076
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,320
mainly that is for and I don't want to

2077
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,520
speak for them, but the way it was told

2078
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,880
to me And that's all that's all I'm

2079
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,120
asking. It was going to be basically

2080
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,520
there would be

2081
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,200
highly technical people there,

2082
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,520
technicians, medical technicians there

2083
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,560
interpreting that data

2084
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:19,990
and information that was brought in from

2085
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,760
said it facilities around the area,

2086
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,120
hospitals.

2087
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,400
And then they would be compiling that

2088
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,040
information to people or doctors to use

2089
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,400
in the

2090
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,360
surrounding area.

2091
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,240
Does that make sense?

2092
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,440
>> Yes, it does. It's about as good as I

2093
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:35,960
can Yeah, I know. That was perfect. That because when you hear research

2094
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,480
facility, is it actually, you know,

2095
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:40,640
doing the testing? Is there Is there

2096
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,200
uranium on site? That was originally

2097
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,120
what

2098
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,280
So, we should be good there.

2099
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,640
>> Yes. As far as water or waste water

2100
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,640
specific usage,

2101
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,400
I was not given anything as to what

2102
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,320
their needs were at that time.

2103
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,360
I don't think they were ready to give us

2104
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,480
that information. Okay. But that's

2105
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:01,240
something you would monitor Oh, yeah.

2106
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,320
Absolutely. We would have to know, you

2107
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,400
know, what they're expecting from us and

2108
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,360
what they would be sending.

2109
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,720
We have we have legislation in place to

2110
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,680
protect us.

2111
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,200
I just wanted to make sure that, you

2112
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,440
know, you didn't

2113
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,640
think of anything that No.

2114
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,080
I was in the meeting and I didn't I

2115
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,520
didn't catch any

2116
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,080
anything that would have been negative

2117
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,960
at that time. Thank you.

2118
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Any more questions?

2119
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,000
Thank you. Unless unless we're in

2120
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,920
opposition, I'll recommend to the mayor

2121
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,720
to put them on the next convenient

2122
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,280
public meeting. Okay.

2123
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,880
Yeah. Yes. Okay. Can I ask are we going

2124
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,760
to allow them to come to a COW or is it

2125
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,470
going to be a regular meeting?

2126
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,440
I know

2127
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:47,320
So, people will know. I'm not opposed.

2128
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:48,800
We'll make sure we I'm not opposed to

2129
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,840
having that at a at a COW since we'll

2130
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:51,760
have

2131
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,360
in the chambers here. I'm not opposed to

2132
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,000
that. We'll consult with the mayor to

2133
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,800
find out what her plans [snorts] are and

2134
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,880
to find out if they can appear in that

2135
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,590
short of a notice. Okay.

2136
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,840
The next one

2137
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,960
for comprehensive plan. So, we need to

2138
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,440
uh

2139
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,840
make a decision as to

2140
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,040
allowing the mayor to proceed with the

2141
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,880
contract on this and then

2142
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,520
there will be a

2143
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,440
uh

2144
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:22,440
special meeting to make that formal

2145
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:25,000
decision and to vote on it.

2146
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:25,960
Bill,

2147
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,400
can I

2148
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,426
So, if I I'm going to make a motion

2149
01:14:30,426 --> 01:14:32,440
[clears throat] to

2150
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:34,320
authorize the mayor to enter into

2151
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,040
agreement with MSG

2152
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,600
to

2153
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,360
uh move forward with the comprehensive

2154
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,200
plan.

2155
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,400
Or and then we'll have a what a

2156
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,800
resolution later that states the amount.

2157
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,560
Is that correct, Bill?

2158
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,840
Is that what you were Yes, that's

2159
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,280
exactly where that's exactly where I was

2160
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,760
going with that. You can wait for the

2161
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,120
resolution.

2162
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,720
I just if we're going to award a

2163
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,320
contract, I don't know Yeah, you need the resolution. You need the

2164
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,680
contract attached to it.

2165
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,800
So So, we would we can make a motion to

2166
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,560
make a decision to permit the mayor to

2167
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,400
proceed with the contract, preparing the

2168
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,600
contract for MSG as you as you may

2169
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,400
>> Right.

2170
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,760
And then we would have to come back

2171
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,600
during a special meeting

2172
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,840
to present that and pass or

2173
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,160
approve the resolution. So, motion's

2174
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,120
made. We just have to see if it's

2175
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,520
seconded.

2176
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:30,870
I second.

2177
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,360
We'll call the roll on that.

2178
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,800
All in favor? I know what that doesn't

2179
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,000
mean. Doesn't matter. Yeah, you're just

2180
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,480
entering into a professional services

2181
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:40,640
contract. You need a voice vote.

2182
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,520
All in favor? Aye.

2183
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:47,190
All opposed?

2184
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,720
Mr. Hill, do you have it done yet?

2185
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,440
Oh, okay. I saw you back here. I was

2186
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:55,870
just seeing if it was finished.

2187
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,960
Okay, the next one is our administration

2188
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,120
administrative guidelines. Um

2189
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,880
It's the update to our administrative

2190
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,120
guidelines that fiscal officer provided.

2191
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,200
Uh there were three issues

2192
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,960
that were submitted to you. I'm going to

2193
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,960
make a motion [snorts]

2194
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,080
to

2195
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,720
approve those changes as submitted.

2196
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,790
Second.

2197
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,600
All in favor? Aye. Aye. All

2198
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,320
opposed?

2199
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,400
Okay.

2200
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,390
Should pass.

2201
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,320
The fourth item here is the Scioto

2202
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,560
Township flower sale. They would like to

2203
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,360
set up in the park

2204
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,400
and have appropriate I'm assuming street

2205
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,080
closures and stuff for that. I don't

2206
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,400
have a date on that one. I don't I

2207
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,640
didn't get it yesterday.

2208
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,880
Yeah, she said about Thursday to Sunday

2209
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,680
or till they're gone, right?

2210
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:44,400
Yeah.

2211
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,320
I I just need a motion and a second to

2212
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,880
vote on this. I'll make a motion.

2213
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,760
Second.

2214
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:51,908
Or the second.

2215
01:16:51,908 --> 01:16:54,518
>> [laughter]

2216
01:16:54,528 --> 01:16:55,200
[cough]

2217
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,760
>> All in favor? Aye.

2218
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,600
All opposed?

2219
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,760
Okay.

2220
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,240
Motion passed.

2221
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,320
Okay.

2222
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,680
From the amended agenda, we have E, a

2223
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,120
presentation from DR Horton regarding

2224
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,160
Scioto Crossing.

2225
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,830
Folks ready to go?

2226
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,280
Before we get started, as I I first want

2227
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,560
to First off, my name is Jack Martino.

2228
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,280
I'm the division president of DR Horton

2229
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,000
here in Columbus, Ohio.

2230
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,040
Uh with me tonight is Andrew Mount, our

2231
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,360
land acquisitioner, and Tiffany Ramp,

2232
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,240
who is our director of forward planning

2233
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,800
and entitlement. Um

2234
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,920
I just wanted to make uh

2235
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,760
just to address the storm water

2236
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,520
situation there at Scioto Crossing. Uh

2237
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,200
first off, I appreciate you all bringing

2238
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,080
it to our attention. It is a concern and

2239
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,360
we are taking that very serious to the

2240
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,080
extent that the engineer that designed

2241
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,080
Scioto Crossing was a gentleman by the

2242
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,040
name of Jim Watkins who owned Watcon

2243
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,440
Engineering at the time. Jim is now with

2244
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:58,760
Veridian Test and Jim wrote the

2245
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,000
recommendation or the prescription as to

2246
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,520
how to fix this situation.

2247
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,800
Uh I sent that in an email to everybody

2248
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,480
last Monday, Monday, March 30th, along

2249
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:12,360
with a letter from Jim and then a uh

2250
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,480
the uh the points of what that

2251
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,120
description would or I'm sorry, the

2252
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,680
prescription would look like. So, it has

2253
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,680
nothing to do with the grates on top.

2254
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,880
There's a there's a concrete structure

2255
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,680
that sits in the ground that collects

2256
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,000
that water.

2257
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,680
Most of that water today is coming

2258
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,800
through an inlet at the top. So, what

2259
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,880
would need to happen is that that

2260
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,719
concrete structure will need to get dug

2261
01:18:33,719 --> 01:18:35,920
up. I apologize, we will need to dig

2262
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,000
that structure up and affect the yards

2263
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,360
and we will cut what are called windows

2264
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,640
in the side of that, which will allow

2265
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,840
significantly more storm water to get

2266
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,800
into that 24-in

2267
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,880
water line or I'm sorry, drain line as

2268
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,240
well as the 12-in drain line. That's the

2269
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,280
prescription that the engineer that

2270
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,560
designed this is suggesting in terms of

2271
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,040
a fix. I can easily I can see you

2272
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,960
saying, "Well, he screwed it up in the

2273
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,000
first place. Why is he going to screw it

2274
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,000
up again?" So, we would be more than

2275
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,280
happy to work with the village's

2276
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,719
engineer to have have them look at this

2277
01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:10,800
prescription as well before starting on

2278
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,680
the work. Okay.

2279
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,440
I just wanted to address that. You're

2280
01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:16,640
willing to do that, right? Okay. Yes,

2281
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,400
thank you. And Jack, before you get

2282
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,960
started, I do want to appreciate your

2283
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,719
the the attentiveness you've had for the

2284
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:24,200
customer service. They just come in and

2285
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:30,640
I know personally the the the the the the the the the the Absolutely.

2286
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,440
And we trust that as this moves forward

2287
01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:34,200
that this circumstance that we're

2288
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,880
dealing with on the one side

2289
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,840
we can mitigate on this side or not

2290
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,080
maybe have that repeated.

2291
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,200
>> Yeah. Two two two Yeah, hopefully the

2292
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,080
two is totally separate issues, but

2293
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,920
those photos that were passed around

2294
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,000
they're as disturbing to me as they are

2295
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,800
uh to to anyone else that would see

2296
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,520
them. And that is one thing as you've

2297
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,320
seen we don't want to repeat it.

2298
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,040
Correct. And on this scenario we're

2299
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,320
good. Understood. Okay. Thanks. So, I

2300
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:58,800
will go ahead and let Nan do the start.

2301
01:19:58,800 --> 01:19:59,840
Thank you for

2302
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,400
letting me talk about that.

2303
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,040
Good evening, Council. I appreciate it.

2304
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,800
And in theory this should help that

2305
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,440
problem cuz we're going to catch a lot

2306
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:08,800
of the water that's draining across that

2307
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,320
field and retain it in these ponds.

2308
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,000
Um

2309
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,960
on that note though. So, thank you for

2310
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,200
the opportunity to uh present um the

2311
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,080
Estates at Scioto Crossing.

2312
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,160
Um

2313
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:22,840
Jack stunned the introduction, so I'll

2314
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,840
skip that. Um but

2315
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:25,840
it

2316
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,120
you all know we've been building here

2317
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,400
since 2004. Want to continue that

2318
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,720
relationship. Um

2319
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,160
and tonight we bring forth a plan that

2320
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,800
we uh hope to hope to do that with.

2321
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,600
Um this

2322
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,880
So, we've got the Estates at Scioto

2323
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,840
Crossing.

2324
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,040
This is um

2325
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,080
at the corner or at the northwest of

2326
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,200
Direct and McCord Road.

2327
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,200
It's 110 acres.

2328
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,160
Uh to the and to the west of Scioto

2329
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,190
Crossing to the south of Southern Point.

2330
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Property's currently annexed

2331
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,600
and zoned exceptional use.

2332
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,040
And our plan is for this to be an

2333
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,080
extension of Scioto Crossing. When this

2334
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,280
property came through before

2335
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,680
it was

2336
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,320
just repeat that.

2337
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,560
This was the feedback that was given

2338
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,640
when they tried to do something uh

2339
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,920
significantly more dense. So, uh so

2340
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,800
that's just that's really the direction

2341
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:23,880
we're headed.

2342
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,800
Um

2343
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:30,480
And I think as you come in the

2344
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:32,240
Oh, that doesn't really work on the TV.

2345
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,240
Uh can you go back?

2346
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:36,440
Thanks.

2347
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:38,560
One more.

2348
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,160
Other way. Forward.

2349
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,880
As you come in

2350
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,000
you've got the uh

2351
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,470
um

2352
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,520
you'll have open space at at the

2353
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,000
entrance and then as you come in and you

2354
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,640
come in to a 10-acre community space.

2355
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,000
With there'll be a park

2356
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,360
pavilion

2357
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,080
uh

2358
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,960
here and then we're saving

2359
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,080
eight So, that's about 2 and 1/2 acres

2360
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,400
to then saving over 7 acres of the woods

2361
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,200
of the wooded property.

2362
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:21,350
We'll have walking trails throughout the communities that will um

2363
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,080
Excuse me. They'll they'll tie it all

2364
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,240
together.

2365
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,480
You'll be able to walk you know, walk

2366
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:29,840
around this pond, come up, walk through

2367
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,800
connect to the sidewalks.

2368
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,000
So, we think that'll that'll make a

2369
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,600
great great amenity with the passive the

2370
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,760
passiveness of the passive open space of

2371
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,320
the woods

2372
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,080
combined with the

2373
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,680
uh

2374
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:50,670
activity in the park.

2375
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,280
So, the

2376
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,640
this this plan exceeds the required open

2377
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:55,760
space

2378
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,720
which is uh 20 We're providing 27.6

2379
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,560
acres

2380
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,120
uh compared to the requirement of 18.1

2381
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,280
acres.

2382
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,080
For for the villages uh PUD ordinance.

2383
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,280
What's the number of houses per

2384
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,000
uh acre of net developable?

2385
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,470
So,

2386
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:21,510
uh

2387
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,160
So, the net density is uh gross density

2388
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:29,670
2.91 and the net is 3.77.

2389
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,280
And which versus an allowance of four

2390
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,120
acres.

2391
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,600
Is there any way that that could get the

2392
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,070
rate below?

2393
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,640
Not really.

2394
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,080
I know we had discussed

2395
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,440
and I think you guys were here when we

2396
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:46,720
were talking about it

2397
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,360
you know, making the new standard three.

2398
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,240
And if you want more than that, you

2399
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,640
know, you got to PID or PUD or whatever.

2400
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:55,960
I just didn't know if maybe this could

2401
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,640
be the community that we kick that off

2402
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,160
with and say that three is the new

2403
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,800
standard and if a builder wants to see

2404
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,630
what Commercial Point considers

2405
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,280
it could be that three. But if it can't

2406
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:08,560
happen, I understand. It's dollars and

2407
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:09,920
cents. But

2408
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,760
Not not really. He did say you've been

2409
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,720
here you know, for

2410
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,320
umpteen years

2411
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,280
and wouldn't that be nice if we could

2412
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,840
send them one of your communities to say

2413
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,150
that this is the standard

2414
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,680
I mean if if it can happen, that would

2415
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,000
be a plus, but if it can't, I

2416
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,600
understand. Well, we'll we'll go back

2417
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,240
and take a look at what we can do.

2418
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,760
But I would say it's probably a

2419
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,120
tough fight. Yeah. So, if you if you can

2420
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:35,240
go back to the Okay.

2421
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,360
>> talking about the green spaces, I know

2422
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,960
we had some conversation in the in the

2423
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,920
uh Planning Committee about

2424
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,560
like the utilization of that green space

2425
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,560
with

2426
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:46,360
maybe

2427
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:47,280
um

2428
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,920
increasing community access you know

2429
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,120
parking and

2430
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,840
uh different maybe amenities like uh

2431
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:57,800
and

2432
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,760
is any of that subject to change in your

2433
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,880
current plan as it sits right now?

2434
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,600
Since we had that conversation? Yeah.

2435
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,840
And I think we are providing

2436
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,800
uh you can go back up one more.

2437
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,600
Sorry. No, really I really have got the

2438
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,120
controls here, but I

2439
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,200
um

2440
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,880
So, we are providing

2441
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,960
parking

2442
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:18,920
along the

2443
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,000
south of it. Uh um

2444
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,520
And your question was the clubhouse or

2445
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,280
pool house and that sort of thing. Yeah,

2446
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,280
or like a you know, basketball or

2447
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,720
pickleball Yeah, and we I mean I think

2448
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:31,920
pickleball

2449
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,080
I think that's fully you know, those are

2450
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,720
highly utilized these days and I think

2451
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,200
that's something we'd definitely be

2452
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,800
interested in uh

2453
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,840
taking a look at. Okay. Especially you

2454
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,400
know, with the uh with the

2455
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,000
age-targeted

2456
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,960
community in there. I think that's a

2457
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,200
inspection in there. I think that's a

2458
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,680
Get to it in a second. Uh I think that's

2459
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:53,840
uh

2460
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,200
definitely something we would look at.

2461
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,480
Okay. We we also talked about protective

2462
01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:00,520
covenants over the the the green space

2463
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,590
area specifically.

2464
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,240
And that will be that will be

2465
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,440
restricted. What what what we'll try to

2466
01:26:08,440 --> 01:26:09,680
do here they're going to give that full

2467
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,440
presentation that we actually had

2468
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:14,080
together as real quick and then we'll probably finish up and do a

2469
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,360
follow-up on that.

2470
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,600
is my that is the plan we're going

2471
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,400
to have. Is that fair? That's very fair.

2472
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:19,600
Thank you.

2473
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:20,720
Uh

2474
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,560
It's it's only an on the Here's an

2475
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,280
overlay on the aerial. So, you can see

2476
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:30,160
the section of the woods that are being preserved in uh

2477
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,160
in here. So, we we will be removing some

2478
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,040
of it, but the bulk of it will be saved.

2479
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:36,680
Oh.

2480
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,160
And then we're also saving saving this

2481
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:46,470
woodland on the south of of the pond.

2482
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:49,440
In in addition, we've got uh extensive

2483
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:54,000
buffering uh on the east side. We're

2484
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,840
uh adding some buffer to protect those

2485
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,720
you know, the the trees that are there

2486
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,520
and that will allow us to put the drainage on the lots as it's

2487
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,240
typically done without having to impact

2488
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,640
those trees.

2489
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,160
In In addition, we've got uh on the

2490
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,720
north side we've got McCord Road and the

2491
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,360
residents to the north we've got some

2492
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,480
mounding and uh mounding and woodland.

2493
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:18,760
And then on

2494
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,640
in addition to that on the south we are

2495
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:22,880
uh we've got some additional buffer

2496
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,040
there from the Carney's property.

2497
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,880
And we are looking at

2498
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,920
uh

2499
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,400
the ability to add some mounding to help

2500
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,080
with their drainage issues cuz they do

2501
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,480
get a lot of water coming onto the

2502
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:42,990
property with trees on top for some buffering.

2503
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,640
Here's here's just some examples of the

2504
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,280
some examples of park amenities that

2505
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,080
we'd be putting in. We've got

2506
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,600
very nice pavilion, swing set

2507
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,390
uh you know, play playground.

2508
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,080
Now to the residential pods. Um

2509
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,200
Subarea C which is the yellow and pink

2510
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,080
on the east side.

2511
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,040
That's 156 single family lots.

2512
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:12,000
Uh 63 by most of them are 63 by

2513
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,400
126 minimum. Some of them are 50 which

2514
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,120
provides some variety of the lots and it

2515
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,000
also helps with the uh

2516
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,760
with the lot fits.

2517
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:23,880
Um

2518
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,920
It's the same product just the 50-foot

2519
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,600
lots will be uh two

2520
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,670
will be restricted to two-car garages.

2521
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:33,800
And again, we've already talked about

2522
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,560
the open space on the on the east side

2523
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,480
to protect uh

2524
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:41,320
so that we protect the trees.

2525
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,240
And then uh um

2526
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,840
on the northwest corner is uh

2527
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,640
Subarea A which will be 81 age-targeted

2528
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,880
patio homes. These will be ranch homes

2529
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:52,719
uh

2530
01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:55,719
50 by 125. We'll have an amenity or have

2531
01:28:55,719 --> 01:28:58,200
a maintenance package on those. So, that

2532
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,000
will be targeting

2533
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,480
uh people in the community that are

2534
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:02,840
ready to you know, their kids are gone,

2535
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,480
they're ready to move down or

2536
01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:07,960
get people coming into the community

2537
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,320
that you can add or you then the

2538
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,600
grandparents can come and live nearby.

2539
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,200
Um which I know growing up or my my kids

2540
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,800
growing up. Grandparents were a couple

2541
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,600
miles away. It was great.

2542
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,350
So,

2543
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,360
and then uh How many of those are there?

2544
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,560
There's 81 of those. I'm sorry. Skip

2545
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,840
that number.

2546
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,920
And then subarea B, the blue the blue

2547
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,560
lots in the southwest corner,

2548
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,520
those are 84 single-family lots, and

2549
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,160
those are 50 by 126

2550
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,400
minimum.

2551
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,960
Um similar similar product is subarea C.

2552
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,080
Again, it's all all two they'd be two

2553
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,150
restricted to two car garages.

2554
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,560
And the the smaller lots allow us to

2555
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,480
exceed the required open space that that

2556
01:29:55,480 --> 01:29:57,960
we talked about already.

2557
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,240
It fills by saving some of that open

2558
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,200
space.

2559
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:08,270
Kind of that that trade-off.

2560
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,560
So, summary of key facts.

2561
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:11,440
Uh

2562
01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:15,320
We've got 110 acres, 9.8 acres

2563
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,080
of open space of community space,

2564
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,000
uh including 7.2 acres of the preserved

2565
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,240
uh woodland.

2566
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:23,600
It It's actually a little bit more than

2567
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,080
that because we've got some behind the

2568
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:26,800
lots that we're saving.

2569
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,640
And then uh

2570
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:30,760
You see that you know, we've talked

2571
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:31,800
about the

2572
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,960
exceeding the open space requirements,

2573
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,000
the 321 lots

2574
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,600
with 81 patios, 84 single-family, and

2575
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,920
156 in single-family in pod C.

2576
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:49,430
The the yellow and pink lots.

2577
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:52,000
With a gross density of 2.9,

2578
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,160
and net density of 3.7,

2579
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,120
and allowed density of four per the

2580
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,110
current ordinance.

2581
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,440
So, here's some examples of the product

2582
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:03,800
that we've uh

2583
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:04,600
the

2584
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,120
These would be the three car integral.

2585
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,830
So, these would be on the 63-ft lots.

2586
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:15,600
Then we've got uh these would be

2587
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:16,640
the you know, the rest of the

2588
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,840
single-family lots.

2589
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,000
Will those have basements or

2590
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,480
on the slabs?

2591
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:24,378
Uh

2592
01:31:24,378 --> 01:31:25,120
>> [snorts]

2593
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,630
>> The customer would be able to choose.

2594
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,800
And then these would be the patio homes,

2595
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,280
and these would be on slabs.

2596
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,080
These would be owned.

2597
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,320
Could it be both at all or

2598
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:40,520
I mean, it seems like that's what people

2599
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,440
are asking for is for people to have you

2600
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:46,240
know, the rentals? Yeah, because when

2601
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,720
they retire, they just

2602
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,520
they don't want to own anything anymore.

2603
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,040
And the new thing seems to be to give

2604
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,508
away your inheritance before you die

2605
01:31:54,508 --> 01:31:58,510
>> [laughter]

2606
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,720
» I mean

2607
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:01,840
I

2608
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,560
These These would be targeted towards

2609
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,280
for sale. But there there I know there's

2610
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,000
a lot big market for the rentals. Is

2611
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,560
that something you would consider there,

2612
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,760
Jack, or I mean, I I don't I I will go

2613
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,000
ahead and address a couple things that I do want to address, but specifically

2614
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,200
on on the rentals,

2615
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,080
we haven't written in anything into the

2616
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,600
restrictions that would preclude an

2617
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,840
investor to come in and buy

2618
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,320
those those the homes.

2619
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,280
One of the And what would make those

2620
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,920
homes attractive,

2621
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,720
that particular product, it's it's what

2622
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:34,640
we call age targeted. It's not age

2623
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,760
restricted. Age targeted being it's two

2624
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,360
and three bedroom

2625
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,080
single story homes

2626
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,240
uh with that are built on slab to begin

2627
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,800
with. Um age targeted, they don't like a

2628
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,560
lot of stairs, and they'll find a place

2629
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,280
for for storage. But uh as far And then

2630
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,280
if you go back to that subarea, what

2631
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,600
we're going to call A, those 81, they

2632
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,480
would have a maintenance package on

2633
01:32:57,480 --> 01:32:59,360
them. So, all of those lawns would be

2634
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,800
mowed, so it'd be more of a a

2635
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:02,760
uh

2636
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,560
kind of a lifestyle where you do not

2637
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,400
have to have to mow. So, all of the

2638
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,400
lawns would be mowed at that same time,

2639
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,280
and that would all be part of the HOA.

2640
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,080
So, it might be attractive for an

2641
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,920
investor, but I'm not looking to sell 81

2642
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,560
of these to some institutional buyer.

2643
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:18,600
Yeah.

2644
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,440
I think we have enough of that.

2645
01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:22,280
Yeah. Okay.

2646
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:23,840
Uh the other thing I did want to address

2647
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,240
just on Let us look more closely at the

2648
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,400
three.

2649
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,160
Um

2650
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,280
You know, Councilman Monger, I

2651
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,200
appreciate the suggestion on the three.

2652
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:32,880
I believe

2653
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,240
if I recall correctly, Scioto Crossing

2654
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,480
and possibly Chestnut Estates, they

2655
01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:40,120
might have been 3.1 or 3.3. I think

2656
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:41,840
we're somewhere right in there. This

2657
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,240
looks to be 3.7, so give us a little

2658
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,200
time on that. So, scrub that out.

2659
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:47,880
>> I just wanted to ask earlier. Appreciate

2660
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,000
it. Yeah. I like that adjustments have

2661
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,360
been done since the last time.

2662
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,000
Uh we have a builder this time that that

2663
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,040
we

2664
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,440
Some of us may like, some of us may not.

2665
01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:00,600
But we have a builder, so we're making

2666
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,720
positive strides. I'm still not saying

2667
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,760
that I'm sold that we can come together

2668
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,320
on the infrastructure offsite upgrades,

2669
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,160
uh cuz we you know, I don't know if

2670
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,800
they'll be a Tiffin home or what they

2671
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,880
would be since it's offsite.

2672
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,080
But I think that's your biggest hurdle.

2673
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,520
If we can't figure out McCord Road

2674
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,880
to everybody's agreement, the chances of

2675
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,160
this passing are about zero. Okay.

2676
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,120
Estimate. I I appreciate the candor. Let

2677
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:29,760
me just respond and just so I

2678
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,960
understand.

2679
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,520
Are we going to use a traffic study to

2680
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,160
make that decision?

2681
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,560
Which is typically the the whatever

2682
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,680
traffic study and whatever the village's

2683
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,080
engineer would review that traffic study

2684
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,760
with respect to the additional trips

2685
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,600
that this would cause both on McCord and

2686
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,000
Dorr Road. What What that study is

2687
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,200
suggesting or what study What that study

2688
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,440
would mandate, we would be in agreement

2689
01:34:56,440 --> 01:35:00,040
to perform. So, that study that was done

2690
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,720
for the last one time this came in,

2691
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,440
probably going to be about same. And it

2692
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:05,600
was whether it happens or not, there has

2693
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,880
to be a turn lane on Weldrick Road to to

2694
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,360
lane, whether it happens or not. Yeah.

2695
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,400
Well, okay, so you'll say, "Well, even

2696
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,640
if we don't build, I just want get that

2697
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,280
done now."

2698
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,360
I know it's putting the cart before the

2699
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,760
horse, but let's not argue about that

2700
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,240
later. We sit down [clears throat] that

2701
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,080
with this property. Yeah. And

2702
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,440
the big stickler is, yeah, we would like

2703
01:35:26,440 --> 01:35:28,200
an extension

2704
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:29,640
to fix that whole part of McCord,

2705
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,080
whether it's something we work out with

2706
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,280
the trustees to to work with them. Well,

2707
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:38,640
I But for us to feel good about okaying

2708
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,880
this, Sure. we do have to play well with

2709
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,200
the the neighbors in the township. We're

2710
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,600
also township. So, I just want to make

2711
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,080
sure that there's enough meat on the

2712
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:48,400
bone

2713
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,080
that we or how can we come to that

2714
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,920
agreement so that that is off that's

2715
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,280
dealt with, and then the Dorr Road, I

2716
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,320
know you have to do the 250-ft right

2717
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,320
turn lane, you know, coming from each

2718
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,880
direction and all that. Uh I don't know

2719
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,560
that another traffic study would be much

2720
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,840
different.

2721
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,960
But I just want to make sure if it says

2722
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,760
no build or build, it needs this.

2723
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,440
Are you going to do it? Well, I think

2724
01:36:12,440 --> 01:36:14,200
that's what I'm asking. Is that going to

2725
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:18,040
be subject Is it subjective or is it

2726
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:23,360
what what that study says we have to do?

2727
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:24,760
So, that's what I'm at. Is this

2728
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,440
subjective is

2729
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:28,520
if it if the study says you have to do

2730
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,160
this to McCord and you have to do this

2731
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,080
to Dorr,

2732
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,040
are we in agreement that would say,

2733
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,640
"Yeah, we need to do that." I mean,

2734
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,120
we've got to participate because we're

2735
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,200
going to be adding that many trips. Or

2736
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,080
is Council going to say,

2737
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:40,640
"Uh

2738
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,080
I understand what the study says. I

2739
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,160
understand what our engineer says. We

2740
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:45,520
want more."

2741
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,600
That's the subjectivity that I I don't

2742
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,920
know. So, I can't respond to that. I

2743
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,160
will just from my I can only speak from

2744
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:52,840
this seat.

2745
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,400
>> Yes, sir. Um

2746
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:59,040
I guess obviously the traffic study is

2747
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,720
the one that is

2748
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,640
supposed to be on the nine.

2749
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,520
But we also know that that they have a

2750
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,080
matrix that they put in a and numbers up

2751
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,640
to this have to be mitigated, up to this

2752
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,040
don't.

2753
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,600
But I think as a village, if we do not

2754
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,680
make that that area

2755
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:22,040
to the south and the north match,

2756
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:26,920
I just think that that's that's not great. Well, that causes more

2757
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,360
rift between the two.

2758
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,160
When you say to the south and the north,

2759
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,040
how far are you? Well, that's what I

2760
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:39,360
just want to say. Could we agree that we as the developer would work that out

2761
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,480
with the village's engineer, and

2762
01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:44,480
whatever the traffic study says and what

2763
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:47,080
the village's engineer feels, you know,

2764
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:48,800
is warranted on behalf of the village,

2765
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,600
that's something that I can work with.

2766
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:51,640
Yeah, that's why they have faith in

2767
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,640
these two.

2768
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,120
That's why they represent them.

2769
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:55,760
Understood.

2770
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,040
>> And that's why, you know, we're full

2771
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:58,880
time now. Yeah. And we just want you to

2772
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,360
know that they are full time now, and we

2773
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,920
expect that.

2774
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,000
And if they have [snorts] a suggestion

2775
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,120
as a you could or could not, it would

2776
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,800
probably be great if you went to the

2777
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,400
could.

2778
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:11,880
Okay. No, that was going to be my

2779
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:16,680
question, I guess, because if you

2780
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,480
if you're saying that you want to work

2781
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:20,200
with them, say they say, "This is

2782
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,920
great." But like you said, they're Okay,

2783
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:23,960
we see more.

2784
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,040
The we or the council, the township, we

2785
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,040
want more than what the traffic study

2786
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,080
says. Are you going to go with the more

2787
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:33,920
of what is suggested, or is it going to

2788
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,960
be just, "Well, the traffic study says

2789
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,600
we don't have to do that, so even though

2790
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:38,760
you guys

2791
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,560
want the more, we're not going to do the

2792
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:41,840
more." Yeah, I hope with all due

2793
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:43,480
respect, I can't commit to the more

2794
01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:45,080
because I don't know what the more is.

2795
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,920
That's right. Right. But you're willing,

2796
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,400
Jack. I'm willing, absolutely, to work

2797
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,400
with the engineers and and and council

2798
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,280
and the village's engineers to to

2799
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,680
satisfy that. Cuz cuz I will say it it

2800
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,360
felt like I came in at the tail end of

2801
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,800
it last time, and it felt like maybe

2802
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,800
that didn't happen early on, and that's

2803
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,080
how we got where we were. That's how it

2804
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,320
took me till the night of to figure out

2805
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,800
they were over, you know, the four on

2806
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,000
net cuz they were using gross. We just

2807
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,680
don't want that repeat. So, we want to

2808
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,360
make sure that tonight at this you're

2809
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,000
telling us and promising us that you

2810
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,400
will work hand-in-hand with these

2811
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,400
professionals that we hired

2812
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,880
so that when they tell us that they have

2813
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:26,880
done what they feel

2814
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,480
is in the best interest from their

2815
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:31,080
specialty, we don't have to second-guess

2816
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,640
it and we can take it because you're

2817
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:33,920
going to tell us that's what you're

2818
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,000
going to do. 100% Yeah, 100%. And this

2819
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,360
will have to be a collaboration with the

2820
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,240
township because this their road. So,

2821
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:41,680
this is going to be a collaboration with

2822
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:42,880
them

2823
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,960
step-by-step.

2824
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,760
I mean it will just it will be not the

2825
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,720
decision necessarily on this part of it,

2826
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,200
but it will be what happens because just

2827
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,960
to let you know that from my perspective

2828
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:55,840
the minimum standard on these roadways

2829
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,080
in this is is

2830
01:39:58,080 --> 01:39:58,840
won't

2831
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,360
it won't impress me at all. Okay? Susan

2832
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,840
has The higher the higher level is going

2833
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:03,840
to we're going to have to Susan, you

2834
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,600
speak to that. during this process. So

2835
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,520
Just to comment because we do have

2836
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,440
shared roadways. Village goes to the

2837
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:12,720
center line, township is the other side.

2838
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,720
Everything that gets submitted goes to

2839
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,880
the county engineer as well.

2840
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,720
So, I think we just recently submitted

2841
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,760
the MOU for your traffic impact study.

2842
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,520
The county received it and they have

2843
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,800
already provided their comments to that

2844
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,760
MOU. Can can we get that?

2845
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,160
Cuz I haven't seen the traffic study for

2846
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,080
that. It's still being done. Oh, okay.

2847
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,000
Well, he was for I thought you It

2848
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,280
was for when they tried to come in last

2849
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,040
time. Okay, so we did There is a new

2850
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:40,000
one.

2851
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:44,880
There will be a new one. Okay. Okay.

2852
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,840
So, I guess Susan, I do have a question

2853
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,560
maybe you can talk to because McWhorter

2854
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,680
Road is is not blacktopped, Ronald, am I

2855
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,840
correct? It's all tar and chip layers,

2856
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,480
right? Uh there's section that has been

2857
01:40:55,480 --> 01:40:57,760
blacktopped in the S-curve.

2858
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,280
Okay, but the rest of it is just layers

2859
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,200
of tar and chip. So, that's probably

2860
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:02,360
going to mean we're going to go all the

2861
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,400
way to the base and redo it all

2862
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,200
with twos and all the way up because if

2863
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:08,480
it's just tar and chip, we're not going

2864
01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:11,000
to have enough base there to even widen

2865
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,640
it all. So, I just I want to make sure

2866
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,320
you understand the type of road that

2867
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,080
you're talking about

2868
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,320
before we get too far.

2869
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:19,880
I mean it's it's a tar and chip road

2870
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,200
that's in really bad shape. There's not

2871
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:23,960
a whole lot of room through the S-curve.

2872
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,360
I think I remember when I was learning

2873
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,240
to drive that S-curve had a one-lane

2874
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:28,440
sign.

2875
01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:30,560
Uh it used to be a one you had to stop

2876
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,640
and if if met in the middle it was

2877
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,080
whoever could go up the road the most

2878
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,240
and get damaged. Sure. No. You know, so

2879
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,680
I just I don't want anything hidden.

2880
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,040
Uh I mean believe it or not, I kind of

2881
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,320
like you

2882
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:42,705
and

2883
01:41:42,705 --> 01:41:43,000
>> [laughter]

2884
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,760
>> I don't want to have to curb ball or

2885
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,520
anything later. No. No, I respect that.

2886
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,600
The calendar saves us time.

2887
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:51,960
Right.

2888
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,480
And in this situation if again, working

2889
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:57,320
with the village's engineers who have

2890
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,680
that responsibility to provide that

2891
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,240
technical

2892
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,360
uh review and technical guidance to the

2893
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,160
village, we're completely beholden to

2894
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,120
that with the study.

2895
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:09,440
And of course, you know how windy is.

2896
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:11,120
We're not worried about you working with

2897
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:15,160
her. So, that'll be squared away.

2898
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,420
You mean that's part of the gig?

2899
01:42:17,420 --> 01:42:18,520
>> [laughter]

2900
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,840
>> I'll let you keep going.

2901
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:22,200
Thank you. It was a great presentation,

2902
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,600
but just one thing if I can just add,

2903
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,680
when you're doing your park um

2904
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,400
depending with that amount of homes, you

2905
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,240
may need some extra playground equipment

2906
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,440
um cuz Scioto Crossing's

2907
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:37,240
if there are five kids at the park, it's

2908
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:38,400
too crowded.

2909
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,360
So, just keep that in mind. I would make

2910
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:41,920
the park bigger than what's at Scioto

2911
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,120
Crossing.

2912
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,920
But Patricia, this is Scioto Crossing.

2913
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,160
So, their crossing's playground is

2914
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:48,400
I [laughter]

2915
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:49,840
mean I know I mean some of our neighbors

2916
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,760
we may come over and use that pavilion,

2917
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,320
you know what I'm saying? So, we want a

2918
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,120
pickleball court, too. But I I'm just

2919
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,040
saying, you know, because with the swing

2920
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:00,240
because there's only one baby swing and

2921
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,400
there's five people that in our

2922
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,120
neighborhood right now, a lot of babies

2923
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,320
and they they wait in line to swing, so.

2924
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:06,400
Appreciate that.

2925
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,360
It's okay.

2926
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,480
Are Did you Are you at the point where

2927
01:43:10,480 --> 01:43:12,000
you're done here and we You said you

2928
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:13,680
wanted to transition into another You

2929
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,560
want to address that? Yeah. If you'd

2930
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,360
like to or you can ask.

2931
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,760
Uh we have a little a bit on the school

2932
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,240
district. I will I'll make it super

2933
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:22,320
quick.

2934
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,840
Um I need you to to drive, Andrew.

2935
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,280
So, whenever we come into community,

2936
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,080
I've already presented this at our uh

2937
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,640
meeting a couple weeks ago. Our um

2938
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,000
whenever we go into a community, we're

2939
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,400
we try to be very thoughtful on the

2940
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:35,440
impact that we're going to be in

2941
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:36,960
schools. We know that Teays Valley's had

2942
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,320
some things in the news here locally on

2943
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,040
the school district capacity issues,

2944
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,480
what not. So,

2945
01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:44,640
uh this particular uh project Again, my

2946
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:45,920
name is Tiffany. I'm the director of

2947
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:46,800
forward

2948
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:50,680
planning and land. So, I um am near and

2949
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,320
dear to Commercial Point and Teays

2950
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,000
Valley because I currently have 10

2951
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:55,640
members that live in the Teays Valley

2952
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,640
school district. I have four of those

2953
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,080
family members that are actually in

2954
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:00,880
integrated into the school elementary,

2955
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,800
middle, and high school.

2956
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,720
My brother my youngest brother graduated

2957
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,680
from Teays Valley High School in 2010,

2958
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:08,560
grew up on Cherry Tree Lane right here

2959
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,840
at Chestnut. Stinks.

2960
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:12,880
My very first home was at the Village at

2961
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,280
Southern Point back in 2004.

2962
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,840
So, when I look at this school, you

2963
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,160
know, I'm looking at it through a lens

2964
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,360
of community, family feel. You know,

2965
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,400
we've been here I've been here. Jack

2966
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,000
Deering Horton through Westport Homes

2967
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,320
has been here. Dominion Homes we've been

2968
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,560
here for a really long time.

2969
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,760
So, we are we like to be transparent in

2970
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,680
how we look at data and what our what

2971
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,360
our impacts are going to be. So, our

2972
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,160
subdivision as Andrew mentioned is going

2973
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,680
to be about 321 units.

2974
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:40,920
We look at the current district

2975
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,800
enrollment at Teays Valley, which is

2976
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,800
about 4,300. That 4,300 figure comes

2977
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,280
from publicly available information that

2978
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,200
comes from the Ohio Board of Education

2979
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,880
through Teays Valley School District and

2980
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,160
through the US Census. Every year school

2981
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,160
districts are required to report a

2982
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,520
five-year forecast budget and that's

2983
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:00,760
where we get the enrollment numbers. So,

2984
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,080
then we take

2985
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,760
the 4,300 students that we have. Teays

2986
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,840
Valley Local School District, fun fact,

2987
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,400
one of the largest uh land masses in all

2988
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,960
school districts in the state of Ohio.

2989
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,680
So, there's about 615 school districts

2990
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,720
in Ohio. Teays Valley lands about 49, I

2991
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,560
think, in size.

2992
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:19,880
Uh you're larger than the city of

2993
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,840
Columbus School District in land size,

2994
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:25,320
which is pretty amazing. Um but that kind of tells you how many parcels,

2995
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:26,800
right, that you have and people voting

2996
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,120
for levies and what not when it comes to

2997
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,600
building new schools. So, the fact is

2998
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,080
and you can get this information again

2999
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:36,440
from the uh financial district profile

3000
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:38,120
the school district school district is

3001
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,720
in a positive cash flow and they are

3002
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:41,480
expected to be so for the next five

3003
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:43,440
years. They can pay the bills, turn the

3004
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:45,160
lights on, they can pay their teachers,

3005
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:46,760
they can pay for books.

3006
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,440
What they cannot pay for right now, as

3007
01:45:48,440 --> 01:45:50,320
we know, we're being transparent, is it

3008
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:51,640
a new school. We know that there's some

3009
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,720
capacity issues with some of the schools

3010
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,560
and that does come through with bonds

3011
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,840
and levies. So, um I'm just here to

3012
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,120
report what our research has found on

3013
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,640
our impact on units and student count.

3014
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:06,840
So, we have 321 units coming in um

3015
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,560
using the uh student enrollment count

3016
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,320
and the population of Teays Valley

3017
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,800
School District, you got about 20 I

3018
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,320
think 28,000 in population. You've got

3019
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,760
about 8,400 households in Teays Valley

3020
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,840
School District. So, uh when you do that

3021
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,960
math, you come up with the formula of a

3022
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,600
0.57 student ratio.

3023
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,160
Well, uh we reached out and the school

3024
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,360
superintendent uses a 0.75. So, we're

3025
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,520
okay actually being a little bit more

3026
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,480
conservative on that ratio. So, for

3027
01:46:33,480 --> 01:46:35,280
every one home that we build, we're

3028
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,440
expecting 0.75

3029
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:39,800
of a a human student to join the school

3030
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,000
district.

3031
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,200
Well, our 321 homes, we're not building

3032
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:44,760
on day one. We're not delivering those

3033
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,120
homes on day one. We're not going to be

3034
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,320
delivering 240 students to the school on

3035
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,640
day one either. 100 a year, right?

3036
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,840
That's average. Well, we are

3037
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,120
um anticipating I mean 100 homes per

3038
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:55,920
year, right?

3039
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,720
A successful sales pace would be about

3040
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,800
40 homes a year. 40 homes. Yeah, 3.3 a

3041
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:01,880
month.

3042
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,640
So, when we take that fraction, we're

3043
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,680
estimating about uh 40 homes a year,

3044
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,000
eight-year build-out starting in 2027 if

3045
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,280
we're successful in the region and we

3046
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,520
have of course the public support, we

3047
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,600
would expect about 30 students per year.

3048
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,120
All 30 students are not going to be in

3049
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:18,480
fifth grade, they're not all going to be

3050
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:20,280
in 10th grade. They're going to be

3051
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,240
allocated in population just as they are

3052
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,080
now uh in every grade of elementary,

3053
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:26,560
middle, and high school. So, you can

3054
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,920
anticipate about 2.3 students per grade

3055
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,200
per year at full build-out and then it

3056
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,640
stops at full build-out, right? So,

3057
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,480
I'm going to also argue that our

3058
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:39,560
conservative ratio includes 81 homes

3059
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,880
that are actually targeted for age, you

3060
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,160
know, retirement, grandparents. So, are

3061
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:46,960
those 81 homes truly going to be

3062
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,600
generating uh

3063
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,840
students? Not likely, but we are putting

3064
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,440
that in our figure as if we are, okay?

3065
01:47:53,440 --> 01:47:55,520
Um I also have an argument and we have

3066
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,520
not met uh full transparency, we have

3067
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,520
not met with uh the superintendent yet.

3068
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,640
However, we have been in touch.

3069
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:02,609
We're trading emails back

3070
01:48:02,609 --> 01:48:03,320
[clears throat] and forth. We're trying

3071
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,000
to get on the calendar. Um so, we're

3072
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,320
hoping to hear back in the next day or

3073
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:07,840
so. I know he's a little busy right now,

3074
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:09,320
but he has acknowledged our reach out

3075
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:10,880
and we're going to talk to him.

3076
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,760
I'm also curious there's not a lot of

3077
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,440
public information on this that

3078
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:16,640
how many So, if you look at our

3079
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,280
development right now, we've got three

3080
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,400
sub areas, right? So, you've got your

3081
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,120
nicer, larger lots that will likely have

3082
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,680
your three-car garage, maybe a little

3083
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,520
bit higher price point.

3084
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,960
Your subsection in the far north corner

3085
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:30,719
there is your age targeted for your

3086
01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:33,320
grandparents, perhaps retirees. And then

3087
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:35,640
the sub area there to the south

3088
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:37,360
um you know, perhaps first-time home

3089
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,480
buyers, a little bit better price point.

3090
01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:41,320
That community to me means you've got

3091
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,120
people that are going to be moving up or

3092
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,280
moving into that are already in the

3093
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,719
Teays Valley School District. So, I'm

3094
01:48:47,719 --> 01:48:48,840
curious when we meet with the

3095
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:49,920
superintendent and this is going to be a

3096
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,640
question I'm I'm going to ask. How many

3097
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,719
new people are coming into the district

3098
01:48:53,719 --> 01:48:55,640
versus move-ups?

3099
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:56,880
Or, you know, maybe they're moving in

3100
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:58,680
from an older subdivision. Um so,

3101
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,040
that'll be something that we're going to

3102
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:01,760
kind of track a little bit just to see

3103
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:02,960
what the school district does about

3104
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:03,800
that.

3105
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,120
Um trying to think what else here. Let

3106
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:10,270
me look at the notes.

3107
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,120
Just what Tiffany's presenting the price

3108
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,520
points we would anticipate on the patio

3109
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,120
product or the age-targeted product

3110
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,160
would be from the low 400s to the mid

3111
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,480
and upper 400s and on the larger lots

3112
01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:25,720
we'd be looking from the mid fours to

3113
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:29,000
the mid mid fives. Yes.

3114
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,040
Something else I would like to point

3115
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:32,760
out. Um

3116
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,520
Teays Valley School District brings in

3117
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,400
about $17,000

3118
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,520
a year per student in revenue and that

3119
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,760
comes from various sources of school,

3120
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,560
whether it's state funds, uh local

3121
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,360
income tax funds, local real estate

3122
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:45,600
funds.

3123
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,160
The expenditures are about 14,000. So,

3124
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,320
that's really good, right? They're

3125
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:50,520
bringing in more money than they're

3126
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,480
spending and that really sets the tone

3127
01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:53,840
for the district to be financially

3128
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,320
responsible, safe, and be ready for for

3129
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,040
what they need to be prepared for.

3130
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,600
Those 81 homes, again, the age-targeted

3131
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:02,640
ones,

3132
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,440
they're if they're not really generating

3133
01:50:04,440 --> 01:50:05,680
kids, they're not going to have the

3134
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:07,960
$14,000 per year expense for the

3135
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:09,400
students that you normally would have

3136
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,720
from single-family homes. But, they will

3137
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,120
be paying taxes and they will be paying

3138
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,680
income tax if they're still working. So,

3139
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,120
there's some revenue coming in. Just

3140
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,920
trying to point that out as well to kind

3141
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,120
of offset some of the um

3142
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:22,960
the ratio from the other homes that

3143
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,000
might be generating students. So, with

3144
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,320
that said, I just wanted to kind of give

3145
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,560
my history of Commercial Point, um

3146
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:30,920
both, you know, personally and

3147
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,680
professionally, and give our information

3148
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:35,360
as far as how we go about researching

3149
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,160
student impact in school districts and

3150
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,600
hopefully educate some of you guys on

3151
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,120
your own community and school districts.

3152
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,240
So, any questions?

3153
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,160
I I just have one comment to the

3154
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:46,360
comments. So,

3155
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,040
superintendent said that it's

3156
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,520
we're growing at a rate of 15 to 16%.

3157
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,720
Your what? We're growing at 15 to 16%.

3158
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:54,720
>> That's a good point. Yes, let's talk

3159
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,520
about that. So,

3160
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,160
um

3161
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,480
to answer your question, with deductive

3162
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:02,880
reasoning, it'd be pretty easy with the

3163
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,960
numbers of increase

3164
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:06,080
that the majority of those are new

3165
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,480
move-ins, not move-ups, because we

3166
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:11,040
wouldn't track the move-ups in total

3167
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:12,800
enrollment. Correct. As a school

3168
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,080
district, we might have a school. So, I

3169
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,040
don't want to get it twisted

3170
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,960
that uh

3171
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:20,760
you know, that's that's

3172
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,480
Yeah, no, I I respect that.

3173
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:23,440
>> versus move-up.

3174
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:26,800
>> Sure. Well, we're 15 to 16% increase in

3175
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:28,680
total enrollment, those are move-ins.

3176
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:29,880
So, can I ask you where you got that

3177
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,200
data for the 15%? Um

3178
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,080
I have good connections and it is public

3179
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:35,720
with records.

3180
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:37,360
>> Sure. Okay, so I got the same public

3181
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,240
record information and I took a 10-year

3182
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,000
forecast and looked at enrollment

3183
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,800
counts. The last 10 years, on average,

3184
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,200
your enrollment has increased about 70

3185
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,560
per year. You actually had Teays Valley

3186
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,360
School District

3187
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:53,480
negative enrollment in 2019-2020.

3188
01:51:53,480 --> 01:51:55,840
COVID, right? The following year you had

3189
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:57,720
a little uptick in your enrollment up to

3190
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,040
almost 200 a year. But, if you look at

3191
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:01,560
the course of the last 10 years and it

3192
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,080
follows the trend of subdivisions even

3193
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:07,440
or COVID, you're averaging about 70 70

3194
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:08,840
new enrollees

3195
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:09,920
a year.

3196
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,360
You're also averaging 300 graduates a

3197
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,200
year, which is a really excellent

3198
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,880
graduation rate. So, I just wanted to

3199
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,360
point that out.

3200
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,790
Anything else?

3201
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,400
Thank you. Did you guys Did you have any

3202
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,520
further updates? Cuz I want to I I know

3203
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:26,240
that

3204
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:27,160
I think did you have anything that you

3205
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,600
wanted to add from our community where

3206
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:30,800
we uh

3207
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:34,240
I asked about those two points

3208
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,080
particularly the grassy green spaces,

3209
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:38,640
but

3210
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:39,920
outside of that, I didn't I didn't

3211
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,120
expect

3212
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:43,670
Yeah.

3213
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,040
But, I mean, there there'd also been a

3214
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:46,960
conversation, a good conversation I

3215
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:48,960
thought about

3216
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,320
having some fencing along the

3217
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,960
roadside along McCord. Yes. Um

3218
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:57,480
so, I just kind of wanted to see where

3219
01:52:57,480 --> 01:52:58,880
you guys

3220
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:00,720
were generally at with some of the

3221
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,680
feedback that Yeah, along McCord Road,

3222
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:04,880
certainly we would do split-rail fencing

3223
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,080
and delineation fencing along McCord. Uh

3224
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,640
and along uh Dorr. And we can present

3225
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,120
that uh landscaping plan for those entry

3226
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,400
features as well.

3227
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,240
Okay. Now, any of the items that did

3228
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,160
come up during the land land use

3229
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,360
committee from the community, uh was

3230
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,480
there anything updated from that point

3231
01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:28,400
that had stuck or that you had made a

3232
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,160
note of? There was one that I that kept

3233
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:31,560
sticking in my mind. Some of the other

3234
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,000
ones did come up when we were talking

3235
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:33,880
about this.

3236
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:35,640
There was a concept that potentially the

3237
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:39,480
product from section A and section B

3238
01:53:39,480 --> 01:53:40,560
potentially flip

3239
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,200
>> Flipping? What What's the

3240
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,320
any prognosis on that? Because I know

3241
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:45,520
that there were some reasoning behind it

3242
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:46,440
shortly

3243
01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:47,000
>> they are

3244
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:48,080
>> Yeah.

3245
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,800
swapping these two. Because of the What

3246
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:52,480
was the elevation, I believe, of the one

3247
01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:55,640
product is lower and having it to see

3248
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:57,040
how would the view would be or how it

3249
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,360
would fit with the

3250
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:00,800
So, that was I knew that was one that I

3251
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,080
wanted to make sure where we're at on

3252
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:02,864
that or what the

3253
01:54:02,864 --> 01:54:03,520
>> [laughter]

3254
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,040
>> Yeah, the issue that the The only the

3255
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,440
issue that we found there, if we can go

3256
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:10,200
back to that so that the council can

3257
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,070
see.

3258
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,200
You have it.

3259
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,880
There you go. Okay, the gold area is the

3260
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:19,800
proposed age-

3261
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,680
targeted product. The blue area would be

3262
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:26,280
more single-family at a at roughly 52-ft

3263
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:28,800
foot wide lots. The The blue area is

3264
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,440
still proposed more as two-story

3265
01:54:30,440 --> 01:54:32,360
product, whereas the gold area would be

3266
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,440
all the ranch. The reason the question

3267
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,000
came up is that property, the white

3268
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,440
property due south of the blue, was one

3269
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:40,680
of the uh

3270
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,160
township residents that was concerned

3271
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,000
with just having the neighbors and if

3272
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,440
they had a lower product that was

3273
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,320
single-story versus two two-story

3274
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:50,640
product, they wouldn't be looking into

3275
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,000
the property.

3276
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,640
We looked at that and the the concern

3277
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,080
there is just that the the thoroughfare

3278
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,400
or the main spine road that comes

3279
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,720
through from McCord and kind of connects

3280
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,880
through down to Dorr is would be through

3281
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,600
that age-targeted product if we flipped

3282
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:10,680
that.

3283
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,800
Typically, the that age-targeted

3284
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,720
product, that resident likes to be more

3285
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,920
set aside and more what I would call

3286
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,040
just uh exclusive or set aside. So,

3287
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,840
that's why we didn't, but we could

3288
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:24,560
certainly add that that We had talked

3289
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,440
about mounding along that south

3290
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,000
perimeter there just to make and and

3291
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,640
planting uh uh

3292
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,120
pines and trees on the top there there

3293
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,120
to screen that area there. I don't think

3294
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:36,560
I heard the first part of it that

3295
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,080
happened a couple weeks ago, so I just

3296
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,440
wanted to be clear on that. Thank you.

3297
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,160
Janet, are you guys thinking of

3298
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:45,400
outward-facing towards the road so it it

3299
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:49,200
looks nice? We had

3300
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,640
We we had uh

3301
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:53,560
another development that has has failed

3302
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:55,760
to come in. That's one thing we were,

3303
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:56,840
you know,

3304
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,840
we're going to be higher quality.

3305
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:01,360
If you can't get us the three, you know,

3306
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:02,400
maybe you could give us the

3307
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,760
outward-facing homes just on the, you

3308
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,920
know, so it looks nice going by.

3309
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,440
With McCord Road being so tight,

3310
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,400
it might help the

3311
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,920
patio homes to have it that way as well.

3312
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,000
So,

3313
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,120
you know, if they want to sit out and

3314
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,360
watch traffic or watch across the field

3315
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:21,120
to the new ball fields for deer.

3316
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,760
>> Mhm. You know, and and

3317
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,120
it helps the perception of going down

3318
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,800
cuz we don't see 47 trampolines and 16

3319
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,320
different

3320
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:31,840
fences

3321
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,200
as people are driving by. I I would love

3322
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,480
to see that a standard moving forward,

3323
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,520
but

3324
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:42,200
I know that's a big expense.

3325
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,990
Well,

3326
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,920
it can be.

3327
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:47,270
I

3328
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:47,480
>> [clears throat]

3329
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,760
>> and

3330
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:50,120
typically, what you're going to find

3331
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:52,080
there is you either you either access

3332
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,720
off of McCord

3333
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,320
where you create like a pri- a private

3334
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:57,320
driveway there that would come in and

3335
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,280
flag into the driveways that would front

3336
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,480
McCord. That's one That's one

3337
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,880
possibility. The other possibility is if

3338
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:06,880
you're facing them there, then you have

3339
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:08,760
those backyards facing the other

3340
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,960
residents.

3341
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:14,080
So, I or

3342
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:18,200
we do some significant landscaping along

3343
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,600
McCord that you're not and and and

3344
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,080
have enough opacity that you're not

3345
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,800
seeing a lot of that uh that a lot of

3346
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,400
that what you'd call the rear yards

3347
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:29,000
there.

3348
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,080
I guess, thinking of it from the end

3349
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:34,200
user standpoint, Mhm. um I would rather

3350
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,440
have my backyard

3351
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,840
facing my neighbors

3352
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,960
than the other way. And then,

3353
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,440
couldn't you spend that

3354
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:48,520
landscaping money in doing a block or

3355
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,600
whatever from the other neighbors having

3356
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,600
to see So, you're spending it on the

3357
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:53,960
people paying the money for the house,

3358
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,200
not the people driving by. Mhm.

3359
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,200
I I, you know, I know your engineers

3360
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,240
probably hate me or love me cuz I always

3361
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:01,920
have work, but

3362
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:04,960
I just Is it an option?

3363
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,880
This is not a light project. Mhm. And

3364
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,320
those little concessions to us, I mean,

3365
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:11,480
I know they're big money to you

3366
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,000
possibly,

3367
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,600
but what what maybe

3368
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,080
be another olive branch that you're

3369
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:19,800
trying. Sure. I'm not going to hold you

3370
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:20,800
to it.

3371
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,400
>> No, you're asking yeah, for us to take a

3372
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:28,787
look at it. Okay.

3373
01:58:28,797 --> 01:58:41,110
» [clears throat]

3374
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,440
» Then one one last thing that I just

3375
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,160
passed out so that

3376
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:49,000
in the in development text, three minor

3377
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,560
changes that

3378
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,120
three minor corrections that we wanted

3379
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:55,120
to change. Um

3380
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,520
in subarea B, it has a 50-ft rear yard

3381
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:58,640
setback.

3382
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,280
That obviously the all of them are 25.

3383
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,240
So, we would want to change that to 25.

3384
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:06,680
Uh and then also subarea B states that

3385
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:08,000
the text

3386
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,760
Um or the text states that the minimum

3387
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:10,640
two

3388
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,680
two-story single-family residence shall

3389
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,800
not be less than 1,800 square foot. And

3390
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,240
for clarity's sake, we want to put in a

3391
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:21,720
ranch a one-story minimum of 1,500.

3392
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:23,360
Just so that it's, you know,

3393
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:24,400
a ranch is typically going to be a

3394
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,480
little smaller, but we want to specify

3395
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,960
that just so we're not

3396
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,880
So, we are we're all on the same page.

3397
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,280
And then in subarea C, we'd want that

3398
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:38,160
same language, 1,800 square foot for the two-story

3399
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:39,600
and

3400
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:40,400
uh

3401
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,040
it it says that all houses should be

3402
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,200
1,800, but we'd want to do 1,500 square

3403
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,000
foot for the ranch in subarea C as well.

3404
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,480
What's the timeline on you guys's

3405
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:51,080
thoughts of actually starting the clock

3406
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:52,400
on this

3407
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:54,160
and having everything ready

3408
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,560
to put us on the time clock? Cuz I know

3409
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:58,040
you know, the traffic study has to be

3410
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,440
included and all that stuff. I mean are

3411
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,640
we looking months or we looking years?

3412
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:05,480
Uh well, I mean I just mean can I mean

3413
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:06,560
typically uh

3414
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,360
the engineering is 6 to 9 months and

3415
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:12,720
reviews. And then bid development

3416
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,520
development's anywhere from another 6 to

3417
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:17,200
8 months.

3418
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:18,920
Uh by the time you start your first

3419
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:22,840
home, you're you're 15 18 months from

3420
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:24,960
today. And end of 2017.

3421
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:31,070
>> that first home, you're 22 months.

3422
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:33,600
So, uh yeah, I just I know the traffic

3423
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:35,160
study and all that has to be before you

3424
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:37,160
actually punch the ticket to put us on

3425
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:40,160
the 60 90 or 120-day clock. I just

3426
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:41,800
didn't know how far out you think that

3427
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:42,920
would be. Yeah.

3428
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:44,880
There there there appears to be some

3429
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:50,000
interest, and I appreciate that from council. You've given us a lot to

3430
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:51,560
go back and work with or go back and

3431
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:53,280
look at and work with. I don't think

3432
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,080
anything here is unreasonable uh for us

3433
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:58,960
to uh to to come back to council. I'm

3434
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,760
just wanting to make I'm I'm I'm

3435
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:04,400
concerned about the ordinance that is

3436
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:05,960
up for tonight's

3437
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,320
vote is this uh as far as new

3438
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,200
developments. Okay, the more important

3439
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:11,720
Yeah, the more important, yes. The

3440
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:13,200
180-day one.

3441
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:17,030
Yes.

3442
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:17,788
So,

3443
02:01:17,788 --> 02:01:17,880
>> [clears throat]

3444
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,120
>> that is our concern. Just are we Are we

3445
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:22,200
still working in that? We would have

3446
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:23,720
obviously to work on an economic

3447
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:25,640
development agreement and development

3448
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,320
agreements.

3449
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:28,080
Uh

3450
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:32,560
we're perfectly willing to go back and put these things back in a plan and

3451
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:34,000
come back to council with the

3452
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:35,760
suggestions that we brought. I'll just

3453
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,800
tell you my intention with

3454
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:40,680
the more important one in second reading

3455
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:41,720
is

3456
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:43,760
to

3457
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,800
move you to

3458
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:47,960
go away from that one

3459
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:49,920
later on tonight

3460
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:51,840
try to move forward with the

3461
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:52,920
100

3462
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:54,160
the 180-day

3463
02:01:54,160 --> 02:02:00,710
parking today's agenda.

3464
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:06,990
Okay.

3465
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:08,680
Anything else you have for me, sir?

3466
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:09,760
Jack, thank you for your time. Thank you

3467
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:12,960
all for your time. Appreciate you.

3468
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:14,880
Okay, in accordance to our

3469
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,440
change of agenda,

3470
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,400
uh I'm going to hereby make a motion to

3471
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:20,520
enter into executive session

3472
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:25,190
under Ohio Revised Code Section 121.22G3

3473
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:27,600
to confer with attorneys for building

3474
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:29,080
and commercial points concerning

3475
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:31,240
disputes involving the village or the

3476
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:34,440
subject of imminent court action.

3477
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,240
Do I have a motion? Motion.

3478
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:39,240
Second. Okay, second Courtney.

3479
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,070
Roll call.

3480
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:45,070
Eric.

3481
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,360
Jay. Yes. Patricia. Yes. Courtney. Yes.

3482
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:51,800
Eric. Yes. Justin. Yes.

3483
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:53,920
And I want to invite Wendy,

3484
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:55,160
Dave,

3485
02:02:55,160 --> 02:03:05,670
and our solicitor, of course.

3486
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:07,160
Now, don't take anything with it. Don't

3487
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:10,000
take anything that's sticking.