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Hey,

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how many have you had?

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But this one Congrats,

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man.

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would like to call to order the

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Thursday, September 10th, 2026 Concord

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City Council meeting. It's good to have

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everybody here tonight. Uh there are

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some empty seats up here on the front

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row if any anybody would like those.

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Uh we're going to start out our meeting

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tonight with the pledge of allegiance

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and followed by a moment of silence.

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[clears throat]

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» I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Do we have any members of the

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Concord 101 class with us tonight? If

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you would please stand.

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Uh and we'd love it if you would

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introduce yourself. And uh there's a

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microphone over there. Uh and tell us

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tell us a little little something about

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your experience in the class so far.

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» I've really enjoyed the class. My name

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is Paula Ferguson Kenzel.

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» Hi, my name is Chris. Yeah, the class is

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very informative. A lot of things I just

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never thought about with the city

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government. It's fun. Yep.

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» Great. Thank you.

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Geraldine plot. A lot of information and

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so little time to take it all in.

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Diane Ally, um, I'm a new resident. I

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moved here in May of last year, so it's

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been very interesting to learn. um

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everything that goes on in this city.

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» Great. Well, we we Oh, you got got one

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more back there.

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» I'm Donna Kinley and I've lived here all

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my life and I just wanted to find out a

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little more than I knew about the

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workings of our government and uh the

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facilities and everything that we have

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in Concord. and it helps me know um

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whenever it comes time to decide who I'm

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going to vote for to know what I'm

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voting for. So,

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» Excellent. Well, we we thank you very

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much for making the commitment. It is

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quite a time commitment to participate

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in the class and we appreciate you being

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that invested in the city of Concord and

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and glad that you're here with us

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tonight.

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Okay. We have several presentations

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um tonight. Um

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» Oh the minutes. Yes, you have three sets

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of minutes that you have been provided

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with. Uh, so do I hear a motion to

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approve the minutes or is there any

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corrections?

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» To approve second.

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» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

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discussion?

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» All in favor, please say I.

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» All oppose? No. That motion passes. And

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now we will move on to the

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presentations. And I'm going to come

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down front for those. And the first one

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is presentation of a proclamation

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uh recognizing constitution week. And I

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think council member Clay is going to

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join me for that one.

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All right. And I will read that

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proclamation now. Uh whereas the

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Constitution of the United States of

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America, the guardian of our liberties,

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embodies the principles of limited

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government and a republic dedicated to

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rule by law. And whereas September 17th,

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2026

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marks the 239th

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anniversary of the framing of the

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Constitution of the United States of

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America by the Constitutional

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Convention.

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Whereas it is fitting and proper to

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accord official recognition to this

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magnificent document

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and its memorable anniversary and to the

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patriotic celebrations which will

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commemorate it. Whereas public law 915

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guarantees the issuing of a proclamation

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each year by the president of the United

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States of America designating September

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17th through 23rd as Constitution Week.

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Now therefore, I Stephen M. Morris,

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mayor of the city of Concord, do hereby

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proclaim the week of September 17th

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through September 23rd as Constitution

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Week and ask our citizens to reaffirm

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the ideals of the framers of the

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Constitution. that framers of the

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Constitution had in 1787

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by vigilantly protecting the freedoms

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guaranteed to us through this guardian

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of our liberties. And Councilwoman Clay

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is a member of our local D chapter and

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so please add any comments you'd like.

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» Well, I really don't have any other than

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to thank you so much for this and I will

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be um excited to share it with other

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daughters of our Cabaris Black boys

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chapter.

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» Right. the D. So, thank you so much.

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» Absolutely. Thank you.

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» Okay. Next up, we have a proclamation

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uh recognizing

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Sep September 15th through October 15th

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as National Hispanic Heritage Month. And

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is Sandra Torres

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there? Sand. Both of you are here.

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Okay. And I will read that proclamation.

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Whereas National Hispanic Heritage Month

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is an occasion to commemorate the

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countless contributions of Hispanic

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people that enrich American life. And

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whereas this year's theme, together we

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are more celebrates family resilience,

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creativity, faith, and service, and

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honors the diverse stories that help

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strengthen our nation. And whereas this

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month recognize recognizes and

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highlights the significant strides of

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Hispanics in the economic, political,

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and social growth of the United States.

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And whereas National Hispanic Heritage

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Month is a call to every citizen to

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reflect on the contributions of Hispanic

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people which are woven throughout

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American history. Now therefore, I

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Stephen M. Morris Mayor and the city

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council of the city of Concord do hereby

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offer this proclamation in honor of

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September 15th through October 15th

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being recognized as National Hispanic

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Heritage Month. Congratulations and

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thank you.

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» And please feel free to make any

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comments you would like.

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We appreciate the council and the mayor

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for this recognition. Um, this is very

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important for us as Elent Espano. It's

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the only nonprofit organization in the

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Cavaras County helping the Latino

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community here in our city. So, we

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appreciate it and thank you so much.

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» AB: Absolutely. And we have have another

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one for for you ladies as well. And this

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is recognizing October 3rd, 2026 as

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Concord International Festival Day.

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international community that has greatly

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contributed to all facets of the

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American culture. And whereas community

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members from different origins and

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backgrounds enrich our communities by

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sharing their vibrant culture and

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heritage. And whereas the Concord

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International Festival is an event to

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celebrate the many diverse cultures in

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our community and to promote

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understanding amongst different races

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and ethnicities through music, food,

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art, community bonding and sharing among

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all cultures. And whereas this will be

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the sixth year the Concord International

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Festival will be celebrated and

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presented in partnership with Elquente

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Now therefore, I Stephen and Morris,

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mayor, and on behalf of the city council

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of the city of Concord, do hereby

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proclaim Saturday, October 3rd, 2026

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as Concord International Festival Day.

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And if any of you have not been there,

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you certainly don't want to miss it.

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It's a wonderful event. I was recently

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talking with a new merchant at a ribbon

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cutting downtown Concord. And I said,

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"So what what brought you here?" They

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had talked about their previous they

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said, "We came to the Concord intera

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festival and and we loved what we saw

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and so we moved our business here." So

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you're making a big impact on our city.

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» Thank you. And I just want to know who

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has been at the Concord International

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Festival.

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Amazing. Thank you. So this year, be

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prepared because we have a wonderful,

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wonderful, wonderful show. We're going

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to have six hours of live music from

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groups from Greece and Germany to

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African groups, obviously Latin American

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groups, um, groups from Laos region,

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China. It's going to be an amazing

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event. everything. You can go there and

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don't spend any money, but I rather you

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spend some money. Uh [laughter]

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uh but you can go just go there and

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listen to music all day. It's going to

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be amazing. It's going to be right on

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Union Street. We have between 5,000 to

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8,000 people depending on who's

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counting. And Natalie is going to tell

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you a little bit about the food that

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» So, if you love food and you want to try

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food from different countries, this is

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your event. So, we're going to have food

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from Philippines, Haiti, Jamaica,

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Latin American, um, Puerto Rico,

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uh, Korea, China, and what else? I'm

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missing I think Philippines if I

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mentioned it already.

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» Um, so we are super excited. We're going

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to have like 16 food trucks, uh, bunch

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of, uh, stands, like food stands from

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different countries. So just come here

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just for the food or for the

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entertainment like or for both. Um so we

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hope to see you um or and for the

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drinks. We're going to have um an

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amazing margarita and pina colada at the

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appointos bar. So come see us um visit

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the the event. It's going to be from

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events and full of entertainment. Thank

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» Thank you.

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» All right. And next up, I'm going to

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call on city manager Lloyd Payne for

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presentation of the uh employee award.

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Thank you. All right. Thank Thank you,

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mayor, members of council. So, as you

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see in your agenda item, Joe Atwater

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continuous core values award is the

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highest award presented to the to a city

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of Concord co-orker. Joe Atwater's life

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was synonymous with heartfelt service to

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others in our community and the highest

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dedication to our organizational core

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values. Joe Outwater served for the city

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from 1994 until her passing in 2004.

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During this time, she became a respected

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friend, an inspirational teammate to all

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co-workers. This award continues Joe's

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vibrant spirit and valued legacy by

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annually recognizing one co-orker that

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best embodies our organizational core

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values and commitment to serving others

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in the community. This year's Joe

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Atwater Award celebrates a co-orker who

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doesn't just talk about the city of

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Concord's core values of accountability,

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communication, and teamwork. She lives

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them. Our nominee proves each day that

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these values are not just words printed

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on paper, but standards we can actively

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carry into our daily work. She has built

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a well-earned reputation across team

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Concord for being both compassionate and

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principled, approachable, but

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transparent transparently honest. When

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staff identified a gap in leadership

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preparation for employees with no prior

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specific experience, she didn't just

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listen. She spearheaded a brand new

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training and enrichment program. She

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brought the right people together,

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respected everyone's input, and

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strengthened our city's internal

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leadership pipeline.

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Her commitment to service stretches far

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beyond her standard professional duties.

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She is known throughout Cabaris County

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as the ultimate go-to person whenever a

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need arises. From organizing food

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drives, coat drives, and litter cleanups

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to extending vital health resources to

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underserved communities, she actively

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protects the quality of life in Concord.

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She looks to the future by hosting free

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resume and interview prep workshops,

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building long-term confidence and

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economic independence for our residents.

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What makes her impact so meaningful is

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that she never seeks the spotlight or

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recognition. She serves purely purely

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out of a deep belief in people. She

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treats others with genuine respect,

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anchors difficult situations with

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fairness, and chooses service over

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convenience each and every single time.

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This year's winner will have her name

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added to the Joe Atwater Award plaque

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that hangs in the city hall lobby, an

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engraved crystal award, recognition in

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the city circular, a $500 gift card, and

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one day of administrative paid leave.

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Please join me in congratulating our

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2026 Joe Atwater Award recipient, City

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of Concords Human Resources Director,

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Miss Chantel Thompson. [applause]

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[applause]

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[applause]

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Oh, [laughter]

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so I have a personal rule. No crying at

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work.

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[laughter]

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I'm so surprised. Um,

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thank you. I appreciate it. You know, we

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do a lot of work here at the city

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[snorts]

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and our city manager never lets us

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forget that we get to come to do this

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work. We don't have to come to do it.

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So, with that,

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no matter how hard the days are, we just

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don't forget what we're here for. And

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we're here to support [snorts] the team

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of people who keep the lights on, keep

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the streets going, and keep the water

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going. And that's super important. So,

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I just really appreciate it. I I thank

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you for thinking of me. So, appreciate

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it.

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[applause]

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Okay.

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» Good.

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[laughter]

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» [applause]

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» We would welcome you to introduce some

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of your family members that are here.

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Chantel

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have

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» Oh, I'm so sorry.

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» Now, now that now that you're now that

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you're composed,

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» I'm so shocked. So, I have all of So,

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this is my husband, Titus. He puts up

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He's put up with me for 20 years, so I

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guess he gets up for the um my daughter,

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Aubrey.

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So, if anybody at work talks to me,

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everybody knows who Aubrey is. I'm

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either fussing or excited. [laughter]

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My best friend from college for over 20

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years. This is unique.

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Thank you. I have my cousin Erica and my

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sweet little cousin Chloe.

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Excuse me.

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And um [snorts] my stepmom Dr. Bnight.

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My little brother Ricky Bnight. My dad

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Ricky Senior. If you know me, I talk a

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lot about him too. My best friend from

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college, Dory. So she drove here. I I

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don't even know how Titus pulled that

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off.

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Congratulations. [snorts]

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my godmomra

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and [snorts] my aunt Audrey. And then I

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see Kim standing back there and I'm

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wondering how she I'm just so surprised.

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[laughter]

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So everybody knew but me.

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» Thank you.

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» Well, congratulations and thank you for

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what you do. [applause]

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» Okay. We we [clears throat] move now to

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departmental reports and we're going to

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hear from Jay on a parks and recreation

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bond update.

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» Good evening mayor, members of council,

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Mr. Payne, Miss Kochinsky, Miss Jenkins.

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Happy to give the September bond update.

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Uh we'll start off with our financial

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slide and the only difference from last

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month is their increase in investments

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earnings which equated to $60,653.

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Moving on to projects under

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construction. Our first project is Jim

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Ramser Park. Uh some big improvements

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that we've seen over the last few

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months. Want to focus on the top left

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and the bottom right. Those are the two

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of the playgrounds that are currently

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being installed right now. And it's kind

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of neat. There's going to be a transform

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uh platform that'll go from the top one

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to the bottom one. So, you kind of see

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that a little bit in the bottom right.

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That picture on the top right is the

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foundation for the maintenance building.

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And then the bottom left is the

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foundation that's going in for the

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restroom over at the basketball courts.

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So, everything is still on schedule for

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summer of 27.

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Moving on to the next park, David

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Phillips Park. Uh we broke ground two

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months ago on this and really continue

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to see more clearing and grading for

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this as well as making some improvements

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to the shelter that'll be expanded which

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is on the bottom right. You'll see that

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and that'll be expanded over the next

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few months. We'll continue to show

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pictures of that.

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So for next projects that are in final

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design or out to bid. Uh currently we

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have the Academy Gibson skatepark pump

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track sculpture garden out to bid and

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the official bid opening is scheduled

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for next Thursday, September 17th. So

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hopefully have that to bring to council

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next month. Next up for Hartzel Park,

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continue to work on plans for that. Our

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final survey came in uh earlier this

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week. We're meeting with the consultant

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next week to go over some final design

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plans and hope to bring that to you for

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final design approval in probably

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November uh potentially December.

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And then for projects that are in design

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right now, Papa Tent Trail Head Park, uh

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the improvement for that one from last

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month is we received yesterday our final

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approval for the erosion control plan

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and our next step is our encroachment

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agreement with NC DOT. Um just a

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reminder, we're doing that internally as

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well. also working very closely with

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engineering department as well as the

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Wilson Street Park working internally

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for this project as well which we hope

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to bring design to you next summer and

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then begin construction after that

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for WW Flow uh last month the approval

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for the schematic design contract went

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through so we're starting to see that so

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we'll bring improvements to that as we

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see fit for giving you more updates and

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then there are no current updates on the

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academy recreation center but we plan to

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work on the RFP that'll go out in the

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new year in January. And I'd be happy.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Skipping ahead. So, we

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did add another picture to our completed

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projects. Uh, so with the grand opening

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of the Academy Gibson Athletic Fields,

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this moves over to our slides of

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completed projects um along with academy

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or I'm sorry, along with Caldwell,

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Dorton, and the pool. And no changes to

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the timeline. And I'll be happy to

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answer any questions.

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» Questions for Jay?

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All right. Thank you very much.

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» Okay. We move now to persons requesting

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to be heard. Uh we've got our regular

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public comment tonight. Plus, we have

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three public hearings. So, if anybody

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determines that they sign the wrong list

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uh when I call out their name, just let

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me know and we'll we'll make

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adjustments.

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[clears throat]

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Um, and I will read our guidelines for

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for public comments. This portion of our

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meeting is our time to recognize persons

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requesting to be heard and provides an

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opportunity for anyone wishing to

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address the city council to do so. Each

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person will receive three minutes to

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address the council. This is a time of

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listening for the council. The subject

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will be noted and if it requires action

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or a request, the city manager will note

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as such and provide steps for any

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required response or afteraction.

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Um, and I think everybody has left their

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contact information when they signed in

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so our clerk can get in touch with you

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if if there needs to be some followup.

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And so the first speakers signed up are

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Bob Bennett and Larry Shaheen.

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Evening, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Manager, Madam

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Attorney, rest of the town council. Uh

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we've come before you enough times at

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this point that we've now gotten them to

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allow us to do it together so that we

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can save you an additional three

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minutes. Um as many of you know, my name

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is Larry Shaheen. I'm an attorney at the

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Macintosh Law Firm working on behalf of

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Stanley Martin uh here today to ask you

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for a highest rating of five on the

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Royce Croft request for sewer uh water

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allocation for the second phase uh for

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their project. I know you've heard a lot

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from me and from uh Bob and from a lot

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of our team, but we just wanted to come

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up one more time and say thank you so

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much for everything that y'all do. We

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really appreciate the opportunity to be

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here to be a part of the city of Concord

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community and be able to provide some

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muchneeded housing uh in the future for

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the citizens that we anticipate will be

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continuing to choose this wonderful

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place to live in North Carolina. And I

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will now turn it over to Bob.

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» Yeah, Larry [snorts] pretty much said it

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all, but I just want to thank everyone.

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You guys have been great. I really

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appreciate everything. So,

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» Great.

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» Thank you.

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» All right.

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» Thank you all.

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» Thank you. Okay, our next speaker is

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Margaret Pucket.

549
00:30:37,296 --> 00:30:39,316
» [snorts]

550
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,440
» Good evening, mayor and members of

551
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:49,120
council. My name is Margaret Pucket. I'm

552
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,279
here on behalf of Toll Brothers to

553
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,640
respectfully request sewer allocation

554
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:57,919
for 137 single family homes. Our

555
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,159
proposed project is located at 4460

556
00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:01,840
Weddington Road. I know that council has

557
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:03,840
a difficult job when it comes to sewer

558
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,679
allocation. There is more demand than

559
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,760
available capacity. So I think the

560
00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:10,240
important question is simply not whether

561
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,240
a project needs sewer. It is what the

562
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,799
city is getting in return for allocating

563
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,600
that capacity. The property that we're

564
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:20,320
proposing or property that we're looking

565
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,240
at consists of 75 acres on Weddington

566
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,159
Road immediately adjacent to West

567
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Cabaris High School. It's surrounded

568
00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:28,480
largely by existing residential

569
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,760
communities and Caparis County schools.

570
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,080
One of the most important things that

571
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,960
I'd like to point out to council tonight

572
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,279
is that this property is zoned already

573
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,039
for much higher density than what we're

574
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,880
proposing.

575
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:43,600
There have been previous plans that have

576
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,679
consisted of over 350 homes on this

577
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,000
property. Toll Brothers is proposing

578
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:51,279
something very different. Our plan is

579
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:55,519
only for 137 single family detached

580
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:56,552
homes across 75 acres, roughly 1.8 homes

581
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:56,559
per acre.

582
00:31:56,552 --> 00:31:58,720
» [snorts]

583
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:01,840
» So rather than maximizing the density

584
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,200
that the existing uh existing zoning

585
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,600
will allow, we're intentionally

586
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,600
proposing a much lower density community

587
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,600
that we believe is more compatible with

588
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,000
the surrounding area and represents a

589
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,159
better long-term outcome for the city of

590
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,320
Concord. We're making significant

591
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:19,600
investments outside of just the homes

592
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:22,799
themselves. Our traffic con traffic

593
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,039
study that we've completed now includes

594
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,440
two left-hand turn lanes and two

595
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:30,159
right-hand turn lanes into our proposed

596
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,399
community. We're focused on connectivity

597
00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:34,480
to the adjacent schools. Our plan

598
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:36,640
proposes walking trails and connectivity

599
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,720
to all of the schools in the surrounding

600
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,240
area.

601
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,000
The homes that we're proposing will

602
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,159
reflect the architecture, materials,

603
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,080
interior design, and outdoor living, and

604
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:48,480
the overall community quality that you

605
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,399
would expect from Toll Brothers. Our

606
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,519
objective is to create a community that

607
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:56,000
adds lasting value to the area and to

608
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:58,399
Concord. We recognize that sewer

609
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,919
capacity is extremely valuable for the

610
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:02,000
city and we don't take our requests

611
00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:03,600
lightly. We believe that if this council

612
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,480
is going to allocate capacity for

613
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,120
residential growth, this represents a

614
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,640
very thoughtful lowdensity, highquality

615
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480
development

616
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,320
that will have meaningful return for the

617
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,279
city of Concord. Thank you for your

618
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,039
time.

619
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:21,960
» Thank you.

620
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:21,960
Okay, our next speaker is Ryan Kenny.

621
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,679
Good evening, mayor and me members of

622
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,600
city council. My name is Ryan Kenny and

623
00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:39,279
I'm with New Branch Real Estate Advisors

624
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,720
and I represent the sellers of the

625
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:45,039
approximately 75 acre property at 4460

626
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,559
Weddington Road. We are here tonight

627
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,640
seeking your support for sewer

628
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,720
allocation. This is the same project

629
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,519
that Margaret from Pill Brothers just

630
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,440
recently spoke on.

631
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,440
We have appreciated the opportunity to

632
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,360
speak individually with each of you and

633
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,279
we value the input and feedback that

634
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,600
each of you have provided to make this a

635
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,679
better city. From these discussions, we

636
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,919
learned how lowdensity executive level

637
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:10,240
housing was a need and a city

638
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:12,159
initiative. So we attent intentionally

639
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:14,399
sought out builders capable of

640
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:17,040
delivering that quality which has led us

641
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:19,280
to Toll Brothers. We also understand the

642
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,399
two primary concerns of this project are

643
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,079
schools and traffic. To address traffic,

644
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:26,079
Toll Brothers has already invested

645
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,760
significantly into traffic impact

646
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,520
analysis with professional traffic

647
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,760
engineers to evaluate roadway

648
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,320
improvements. The proposed plan

649
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,000
incorporates dedicated turn lanes and

650
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760
Toll Brothers has expressed a

651
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,599
willingness to work with Cabaris County

652
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Schools on sidewalk connections to

653
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:44,000
nearby schools that would help reduce

654
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,520
vehicle traffic.

655
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,679
But perhaps the most important

656
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,919
consideration regarding both traffic and

657
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,879
schools is what this property could

658
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:55,200
otherwise become. This property is

659
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:57,920
currently zoned for eight units per acre

660
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,760
or roughly 600 homes. Based on our

661
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,760
discussions with city council and the

662
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,760
mayor, we knew that lower density was

663
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,599
important. So Toll Brothers listened to

664
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,880
our direction and our proposal before

665
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:12,320
you tonight is only for 137 executive

666
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,240
level single family homes. As the pro as

667
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,480
the process stands today, city council

668
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,400
must approve the sewer allocation. If

669
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640
the process returns to a first come,

670
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,440
first- serve basis, this property could

671
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,079
see a much higher density. We believe

672
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,839
137 homes provides Concord with a higher

673
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:29,599
quality and more thoughtful approach to

674
00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:31,599
development.

675
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,280
As a resident of Concord and one that

676
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:35,440
lives less than a mile from this

677
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,079
property, I have a vested interest that

678
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,720
extends beyond my role as the seller's

679
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:43,200
agent. I believe this proposal strike

680
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:45,040
strikes a reasonable balance between

681
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,880
allowing the property owners to realize

682
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,359
the value of their land while delivering

683
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,200
a lower density highquality development

684
00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:53,839
that council and the mayor have asked

685
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,240
for. We sincerely appreciate your

686
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:57,760
consideration and respectfully ask for

687
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,440
your support. Thank you.

688
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,280
» Thank you. [clears throat]

689
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,280
Our next speaker is Austin Boyd.

690
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,440
Hello, Mayor, members of of council.

691
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:23,200
Thank you for having us tonight. Um, my

692
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,280
name is Austin Boyd. I work for Johnson

693
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,800
Development Associates, and I'm here to

694
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:32,160
ask for sewer capacity approval for the

695
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,720
4495 Global Avenue property in the

696
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,960
International Business Park. Our plan is

697
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:39,520
to develop a speculative class A

698
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,680
industrial building uh that will be high

699
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,760
finish class A and in keeping with the

700
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,680
existing buildings in the park. [snorts]

701
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,079
This is also the last full-size

702
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,160
development site owned by the original

703
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:52,640
master planner of the park, the Nolan

704
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,400
Group. Uh and we would like to ask that

705
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,119
you grant us the ability to put that

706
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,800
final piece into production. Uh I would

707
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,040
like to address a few potential

708
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,280
questions that you might have. This is

709
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,520
the second time that we have come before

710
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,320
you for quarterly allocation. What's

711
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,720
different? We reduced our flow request

712
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,599
from 4,350

713
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:15,680
gallons per day to 2,600 gallons per

714
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:18,880
day. We've also included a note of

715
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,960
support from the Nolan Group. U another

716
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,440
question might be who is going to occupy

717
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,440
this building? uh where you see yes next

718
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,680
to logistics and distribution on your

719
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,040
sheet. I'd like to stress that this

720
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,119
building is not a fit for large format

721
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,320
distribution that's associated with low

722
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:39,520
wages and low job count. It's a much

723
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:42,800
better fit for size and economic reasons

724
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:45,520
for a manufacturer who may value the

725
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,359
security of their own facility or a

726
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,119
warehouse group that would like to build

727
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:52,480
out significant office to house

728
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:54,079
executive sales and R&D functions. And

729
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,320
the last question you might have is why

730
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:58,640
does it have to be speculative? Uh build

731
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,040
to suit projects are not very common for

732
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,000
users in this size range. uh they often

733
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,720
have an occupancy timeline and need that

734
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,960
is uh shorter than it would take to

735
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:11,839
design, entitle, and construct a

736
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,760
building. Uh this is well evidenced by

737
00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:17,839
the fact that no build to suit project

738
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,680
has selected this site uh in the 20ome

739
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:21,760
years that it's been out and available

740
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,359
in the park. Uh we believe in this

741
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,200
project. We think it'll be a win for

742
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:26,560
Concord and I hope we're able to go do

743
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,640
it. Thank you.

744
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,119
» Thank you.

745
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,119
Okay, our next speaker is Elizabeth

746
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,119
Rhoden.

747
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:46,079
Hello. I'm not here to talk about

748
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,920
toilets, but good evening, mayor and

749
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:50,000
members of the council. My name is

750
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,000
Elizabeth Rhoden, and I live off of

751
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,680
Short Street. I'm here tonight out of

752
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,520
deep frustration and concern for the

753
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,320
safety of our neighborhood. Short Street

754
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:01,119
is a tiny residential zone with a 25 mph

755
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,640
limit. It is a street or is a

756
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:04,800
neighborhood where families walk, not a

757
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,839
highway. Yet, drivers routinely fly down

758
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,280
our street at 35 or 40 m an hour. Last

759
00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:11,040
weekend, I was almost run over twice

760
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480
while walking my dog. And tragically,

761
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,280
this reckless speeding has already cost

762
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,119
the life of my cat. As a driver who has

763
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,760
previously received a speeding ticket in

764
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,920
Concord for going 65 and 55 on a highway

765
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,160
during working hours, I know our laws

766
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,920
can be enforced. But right now, that

767
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,040
enforcement is entirely missing where it

768
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,480
matters the most, inside our

769
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,640
neighborhoods where people actually live

770
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,480
and walk. Instead of seeing active

771
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,240
traffic enforcement or physical police

772
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,839
presence in our streets, we see the city

773
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,079
pouring funding into automated

774
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:39,760
surveillance like flock cameras. To make

775
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:42,240
matters worse, according to the crowd

776
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,880
source data and my journey over to McGee

777
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:47,920
Park today, the flock cam camera closest

778
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,000
to me is aimed into McGee Park. This

779
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,839
park is publicly recognized as one of

780
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,440
the safest parks in Concord. And if

781
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:55,119
these devices are truly meant for

782
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,359
automated license plate reading and

783
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,880
traffic monitoring, why is the camera

784
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:00,960
pointed away from the street and aimed

785
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,599
directly at the children playing? What

786
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,680
kind of traffic are we watching?

787
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,599
It makes absolutely no sense. We do not

788
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040
need passive invasive surveillance grids

789
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,040
watching our safe parks and playgrounds.

790
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,800
We need a visible, active police force

791
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,560
that prevents real traffic crimes and

792
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,640
stops reckless drivers before they hit a

793
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,599
pedestrian. Tonight, I'm asking the

794
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:22,320
council to do two things. one,

795
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:24,160
uh, just some targeted speed enforcement

796
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,400
or a traffic calming study on Short

797
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,079
Street, and two, re-evaluate our budget

798
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,320
priorities. We need to shift funding

799
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:32,079
away from invasive flaw cameras,

800
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,000
watching parks, and redirect those

801
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:35,839
resources into putting actual police

802
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,000
officers on our streets to keep our

803
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:40,720
neighborhoods safe,

804
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,839
giving them raises, and using actual

805
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,880
humans, not robots, to watch us. Thank

806
00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:47,040
you.

807
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,680
» Thank you.

808
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:53,440
Okay, that concludes everyone who has

809
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:57,119
signed up to speak tonight. Uh so we

810
00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:01,040
will now move into public hearings. Uh

811
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:02,960
and our first one I'll ask Kevin if

812
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,920
he'll give us the background on that

813
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:10,680
one.

814
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,680
» Um I thought I'd do that when we open

815
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,040
» Before he gives his report.

816
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,760
Okay. So, the attorney is telling me

817
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,240
that I need to open the public hearing

818
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,079
before Kevin makes his comments. So,

819
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:28,400
since we have quite a few people here

820
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:31,200
tonight and we have, I think, three

821
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,000
public hearings, uh, I'm going to very

822
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,560
quickly read our rules of procedure on

823
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,880
public hearing uh, for the benefit of

824
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,440
everybody in attendance.

825
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:44,319
uh in order to promote discussion, allow

826
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:47,440
public input, maintain order and fair

827
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:51,280
allotment of time to interested parties

828
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,680
and to avoid unnecessary repetition. The

829
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,880
following general time limitations shall

830
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,119
be observed for all public hearings. The

831
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,599
st city staff will begin the hearing

832
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:03,359
with a brief description and the staff

833
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:06,800
recommendation.

834
00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:10,800
The proponents will present their case.

835
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:13,040
A total of 21 minutes shall be allocated

836
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,960
for the presentation.

837
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:20,000
The opponents will present their case. A

838
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,400
total of 21 minutes shall be allocated

839
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,280
for their presentation.

840
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:28,720
A total of five minutes will be allowed

841
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:32,000
to both the proponent side and the

842
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:35,200
opponent's side for rebuttal. In the

843
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,920
event multiple parties on either side

844
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,280
cannot agree to a reasonable division of

845
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:44,800
rebuttal time, the council shall assign

846
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,960
a time limit to each. Individual

847
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,920
speakers who are not speaking on behalf

848
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,760
of a group shall be limited to three

849
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:56,079
minutes each. Unused minutes may not be

850
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,599
yielded or transferred to other

851
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:01,760
speakers. Groups having the same or

852
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:05,280
similar objectives

853
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:08,640
are encouraged to select a spokesperson.

854
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:13,200
A spokesperson may [snorts] use all or

855
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:15,359
any portion of the 21 minutes as agreed

856
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,880
by the side for which the group

857
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:19,680
advocates.

858
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,960
In the event agreement cannot be reached

859
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:26,079
by multiple groups, councils shall

860
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,040
assign a time limit for the spokesperson

861
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:31,440
representing each group. In the event

862
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,040
the total speakers wishing to present

863
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,480
testimony

864
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:39,200
exceed the 21 minute time frame, each

865
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:42,240
additional speaker will be allocated

866
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,359
three minutes until each speaker signed

867
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:48,560
up has been allowed to speak. Additional

868
00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:51,440
time equal to the time allotted to these

869
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,880
speakers shall be granted to the other

870
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:59,440
side in an effort to promote fair access

871
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:02,319
to both sides of any issue. City council

872
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:05,280
would generally refrain from asking

873
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:09,200
questions during the speaker's allocated

874
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:12,160
speaking time, reserving any questions

875
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,640
for after the expiration of such

876
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,520
allocated allotted time.

877
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,720
And so with that being said, I will now

878
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:24,560
open the public hearing on item one uh

879
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:26,400
and ask Kevin to speak on that matter.

880
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,560
» Good evening uh mayor, members of

881
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:32,720
council, Mr. Ping, Miss Colchinsky, Miss

882
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:35,839
Miss Jenkins. This item is a uh

883
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:37,920
reasonzoning request. Um 285 Paliside

884
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:40,079
Drive Northeast. Um a little bit of

885
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,760
background. It was uh went to went to

886
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,760
planning commission. Um, it was it did

887
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,599
not receive the threequarters vote to

888
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,440
come to you for approval and that's why

889
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:52,160
it's or it did not receive the

890
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,599
threequarters uh vote for planning

891
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,520
commission final approval and that's why

892
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:57,680
you were you were hearing it tonight. A

893
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,880
little bit of background. Uh, it was

894
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,359
purchased by the current owners in 2024.

895
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,800
It's a single family home built in the

896
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:10,240
1960s about 1,600 square ft and the

897
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:13,359
applicant is Lina R uh Lena Romero about

898
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:15,680
half an acre. Um current zoning is RM1

899
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:19,599
residential medium density and the

900
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,760
proposed zoning is C1 uh conditional

901
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:25,280
district light commercial and office for

902
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,599
use as an accounting office only. And

903
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,520
you see it's on the southwest uh corner

904
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:33,200
of uh Buridge and Palisside.

905
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,640
Uh this gives you an idea of what the

906
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,640
subject property looks like. A couple of

907
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,160
drone photos. Uh the one on the left

908
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,400
looking west toward the site. You see

909
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,800
the subject property in the foreground

910
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,839
at the corner of Paliside and Buridge.

911
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,960
The atrium health campus is in the in

912
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:51,520
the background. To the right is a uh a

913
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:56,240
large medical office complex which is

914
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:58,160
also zoned C1. um uh photo on the right

915
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,079
looking southwest toward the site. You

916
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,440
see the Beverly Hills neighborhood in

917
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,960
the background, the Cornerstone

918
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,119
condominiums

919
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,359
to the right at the corner of Lake

920
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:10,240
Concord Road and the subject property

921
00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:12,240
there in the foreground. Um so the

922
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:14,240
petitioners after after they bought the

923
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,000
property, they did they they did uh

924
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,920
concreted an existing driveway which is

925
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,839
shown on the left. That's that's the

926
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,200
current drone photo. um 2024 photo to

927
00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:28,240
the right, but it was an existing

928
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:31,119
driveway. Um so the proposal from the

929
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:33,440
developers um there is a uh there's an

930
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:35,520
out building up on the uh you see on the

931
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,960
upper leftand corner of the page that

932
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,599
they're proposing to take part of that

933
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:44,240
down as well as a ramp in order to

934
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:46,480
facilitate a uh circular access for the

935
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:49,200
vehicles coming in. you you you see they

936
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,920
would come in off of uh off of uh lake

937
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,839
or off of Buridge and exit off of uh off

938
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,319
of Paliside. So there would be a

939
00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:59,359
circuitous motion there.

940
00:46:56,319 --> 00:47:02,400
Um the site plan that went to planning

941
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:03,839
commission is on the left. Um they

942
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,000
petitioners made a request that they

943
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:08,720
continue it a month if you recall last

944
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,640
month so they could work with DRC and

945
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:12,560
come up with the site plan I just showed

946
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,160
you which is the one on the right. And

947
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,040
you see they're they're taking out that

948
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:20,240
portion of the um out building on the

949
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:23,200
northwest or the upper leftand corner of

950
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:27,040
the page in order to facilitate that

951
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:29,200
pass through traffic. Surrounding zoning

952
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,359
to the north is C1 light commercial and

953
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,119
office and that has the medical office

954
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:35,440
land use that I mentioned to you. It's a

955
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:40,240
it's a pretty good sized

956
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:42,240
C1 uh C1 parcel. Um to the south you

957
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:45,119
have the residential uses in the Beverly

958
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:48,800
Hills neighborhood along um along along

959
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:50,480
Paliside. To the east also RM1 uh

960
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,359
there's residential land uses there.

961
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,520
There's one vacant lot along uh along

962
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:58,480
Burge Road right across Palside from the

963
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,319
subject property. Um to the west you see

964
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,000
the cornerstone condominiums. That's the

965
00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:06,480
RCCU zoning. To the west a fairly fairly

966
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,640
highdensity residential development. And

967
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,160
further on to the west you see the uh

968
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:14,160
public interest district which is the

969
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:16,000
atrium uh hospital facility. The 2030

970
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,480
land use plan designates the property as

971
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,400
a mixeduse activity center. It's a very

972
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,160
large mixeduse activity center. It

973
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,720
extends all the way along Copperfield

974
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,520
Boulevard and up to Interstate 85. Um

975
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:30,240
and and basically the mixeduse activity

976
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,480
center and your major C and your major

977
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:35,119
um intersections. you want more intense

978
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,440
land uses there and sort of flaring out

979
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:39,599
lesser intensity as you go as you go

980
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,040
further out. But uh the mixed use

981
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,319
activity center gives you a number of

982
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,960
zoning districts that you could apply

983
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:47,200
for. Um typically they are site plan

984
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,440
control. C1 is listed as a corresponding

985
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,400
zoning district in the mixeduse activity

986
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:56,559
center. So they are allowed to reszone

987
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:58,240
to uh conditional district C1. Um this

988
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:00,480
is the notification map. the Beverly

989
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:02,480
Hills Neighborhood Association was

990
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,359
noticed with the with the initial

991
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,720
resoning petition going to uh planning

992
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:10,319
commission. There have been subsequent

993
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:11,760
notices to adjacent property owners um

994
00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:15,119
with with all of the public hearings

995
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:18,640
that we have scheduled. Um so at at

996
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:20,880
Planning and Zoning Commission, uh PNZ

997
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,520
recommended the zoning the statement of

998
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,000
zoning consistency that supports

999
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,880
approval, which is the one on the left.

1000
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,480
Um, and we also, as typical in the re

1001
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,400
with with resonings, we also draft one

1002
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,400
for denial if you wish to use that one.

1003
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,920
The only difference is the is the last

1004
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:41,119
bullet point. So, they voted to support

1005
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,720
approval 4 to three

1006
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:47,599
for the item on the left, but when it

1007
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:50,960
came to the vote, they deadlocked 33.

1008
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:53,359
I think I got my math right there.

1009
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,079
So, there are several uh suggested

1010
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:59,599
conditions. One is the re uh compliance

1011
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:01,359
with the resoning site plan dated 8626.

1012
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:04,079
Uh of course compliance with their sewer

1013
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:07,359
allocation policy, addition of a of a

1014
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:09,760
backflow assembly, uh bicycle parking.

1015
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:14,880
Um if the petitioner decides to put up a

1016
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:16,000
sign, they have um they have um um

1017
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,000
agreed that they would not put a

1018
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,200
freestanding ground sign that's lit. It

1019
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,760
will not be a a lit sign. It it will be

1020
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,480
just a standard ground sign with no

1021
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,400
no power to it. Uh, of course, technical

1022
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,559
site plan review and approval is

1023
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,160
required after should this resoning be

1024
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:34,960
approved. And of course, all approvals

1025
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,280
from all local, state, uh, and federal

1026
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,079
agencies. And if they were to modify

1027
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,240
this site plan, add another use, they

1028
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,760
would have to come back for an amendment

1029
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,920
to the reszoning petition. Again, it is

1030
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,920
a request only for an accountant's

1031
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,920
office.

1032
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,200
And your next steps would be to approve

1033
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,200
or amend the statement of consistency

1034
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,319
and approve or deny the zoning map

1035
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:02,520
amendment with the conditions.

1036
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:02,520
So does anyone have any questions?

1037
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:08,160
» Any questions for Kevin?

1038
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:10,640
All right. Thank you, sir.

1039
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,920
» And so we have open the public hearing

1040
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:19,079
and the we have the first person signed

1041
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,079
up to speak is Chris Hughes.

1042
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:35,920
Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the

1043
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:39,920
council and staff. My name is Chris

1044
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:43,119
Hughes. Uh, I reside next door to the

1045
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:46,480
proposed uh, zoning change at 271

1046
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:50,559
Paliside Drive. and I come in support of

1047
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:53,440
the of the change. U I believe it's it's

1048
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:59,040
in line with what the city has has

1049
00:51:53,440 --> 00:52:02,880
proposed for our area. Uh I have met

1050
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,520
with the owners. Uh I find them to be

1051
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,640
open and honest and straightforward with

1052
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:12,160
what they want to do and I don't see any

1053
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,359
downside to me as being their neighbor.

1054
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,240
That's all I have to say.

1055
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:20,839
» Great. Thank you. [clears throat] Okay,

1056
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:20,839
our next speaker is Nancy Faggard.

1057
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:30,000
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of

1058
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:32,400
council. I am so excited to learn of the

1059
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,760
unanimous city council commitment to

1060
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:38,480
CCM's Tucker Rebuilders campus. It is

1061
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,920
good to invest in people, families, and

1062
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,000
communities. Thanks to all of you for

1063
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,240
your commitment to find solutions that

1064
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:50,079
will strengthen Concord for generations

1065
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:52,079
to come. I hope tonight that council

1066
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:55,200
will address the future of the Beverly

1067
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:59,200
Hills neighborhood in the same spirit.

1068
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,880
Stability, community, relationships,

1069
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,880
sustainability.

1070
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,599
These are all qualities that the Beverly

1071
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,880
Hills neighborhood hopes to retain as

1072
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:09,359
well.

1073
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,400
It is concerning that significant

1074
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:15,599
changes to the property of 285 Paliside

1075
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Drive Northeast were made before the

1076
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:21,599
required zoning and site plan approvals

1077
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:24,640
were obtained. This is undermining to

1078
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:28,079
the city's development review process

1079
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,760
and sets a dangerous precedent. Citizens

1080
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:32,720
in the Beverly Hills neighborhood

1081
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,800
deserve the peace of mind that their

1082
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:39,119
residential neighborhood remains just

1083
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:41,520
that. It is a reasonable expectation.

1084
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:43,280
Please be committed tonight to protect

1085
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:46,559
the neighborhood from the encroachment

1086
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,319
of business. Government, business, and

1087
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,960
neighbors can all come together to

1088
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:54,000
preserve the residential character of

1089
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,640
Paliside Drive in Beverly Hills. Thank

1090
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,319
you.

1091
00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:00,920
» Thank you.

1092
00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:00,920
Okay. Next is David Phillips.

1093
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,559
We have

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00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:05,559
» Not heard from the proponents.

1095
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,319
I was going to ask that same question.

1096
00:54:09,492 --> 00:54:14,000
[clears throat]

1097
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:16,400
» So, we got Chris Hughes.

1098
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,640
Who Who is the applicant? Who is here

1099
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,920
for the applicant?

1100
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,240
» David, would you mind if we have the

1101
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,000
applicant?

1102
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:25,040
» I have a presentation that staff.

1103
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,640
» Can you tell us your name?

1104
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,400
» Yeah, my my name is Travis Jingra.

1105
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Latitude 35 design group. Did

1106
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:34,079
» Not sign up on the sign?

1107
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,480
» I generally doesn't the applicant

1108
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:38,079
Don't they usually have a slot speak?

1109
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,559
» It's all right. It's all right.

1110
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:41,040
» Thank you.

1111
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:42,880
» Yes, that was very confusing.

1112
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,680
» Please, please proceed with your

1113
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,119
presentation.

1114
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:49,359
» Is there How do I get that? Okay.

1115
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:52,319
» Yeah.

1116
00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:56,640
» All righty. Um, good evening everyone. I

1117
00:54:52,319 --> 00:54:58,240
think Thank you, Mr. Mayor and uh

1118
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,880
members of the council. My name is uh

1119
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:04,800
Travis Jingra. I'm a Latitude 35 design

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00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:08,079
group. Um 8:45 Church Street North um is

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00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:11,839
where where my office is located at.

1122
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:13,520
Um I have a quick PowerPoint here that

1123
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:16,079
we'll go through just um quick little

1124
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,960
table of contents. We'll go over the uh

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00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:20,960
low location uh current current

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00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,119
conditions, some project highlights, and

1127
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,920
then uh some of the project site and and

1128
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:28,240
changes as well there. Um and talk a

1129
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:31,040
little bit about traffic. [snorts]

1130
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:33,359
Um, real quick, the the site is located

1131
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,480
off on the corner of Buridge and uh,

1132
00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:39,839
Paliside. Um, you'll note from my map

1133
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:42,240
there, u, blue and white are, uh,

1134
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:45,280
residential, uh, that is the Beverly

1135
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:48,319
Hills community there. Um, and then in

1136
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:51,200
the green, um, those items there are,

1137
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:53,440
uh, commercial businesses along with the

1138
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,079
red, that is the, uh, institutional and

1139
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:59,040
civic uses. Uh we got the David Phillips

1140
00:55:56,079 --> 00:56:01,760
um park that is on uh Buridge as well as

1141
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,720
a church across the street and we we

1142
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,359
know of uh Atrium Health. You will note

1143
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:10,013
in the white and the red, those are

1144
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:11,599
actually home businesses.

1145
00:56:10,013 --> 00:56:15,520
[snorts] And I I do want to put the

1146
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:18,000
caveat in there that um our our client

1147
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:21,359
and stuff is is well aware they could

1148
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:23,040
keep this RM1 zoning, operate this uh

1149
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:25,280
live out of the house and operate it as

1150
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,359
a home business as well, but um they

1151
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,683
have they have opted to uh to try to get

1152
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:31,683
the uh conditional zoning. [snorts]

1153
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,119
Um and then these are just some uh site

1154
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:39,920
photos. Uh this is off of uh first one

1155
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:42,079
upper left that is Bridge Road. That is

1156
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,880
uh looking down Bridge Road from Lake

1157
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:49,359
Concord Road. You can see that that is a

1158
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:52,160
uh collector street. Um the image to uh

1159
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:54,640
below that would be Paliside Drive. Um

1160
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:58,079
that is a local residential street. And

1161
00:56:54,640 --> 00:57:00,799
then um two two images of our subject

1162
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:04,119
property both from Paliside Drive and

1163
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:04,119
from Buridge.

1164
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:11,280
The uh some uh project highlights.

1165
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:14,319
Again, we are in the uh uh Beverly Hills

1166
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,119
community. There are nine ingress and

1167
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:20,160
egress points into the Beverly Hills uh

1168
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:22,400
community with Paliside Drive off of

1169
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,599
Buridge. That is one ingress egress

1170
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:28,160
point. Um it the Beverly Hills community

1171
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:30,480
is a mixture of single family homes with

1172
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,799
some modest multif family surrounding

1173
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,720
surrounding the uh the community. Then

1174
00:57:32,799 --> 00:57:36,960
the community is also flanked by mixed

1175
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,520
use corridors.

1176
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,319
Um the 2030 growth concept we are within

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00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,960
the medical district as well as um the

1178
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:47,920
2030 plan highlights this area as an

1179
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,160
adjacent um or is within the act

1180
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,640
activity center. Um again we are

1181
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,599
proposing light commercial

1182
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:59,280
um about the project. It is going to be

1183
00:57:55,599 --> 00:58:02,319
a bilingual C CPA office. Um something

1184
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:07,839
to note although Concord and Charlotte

1185
00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:10,720
Metro is a um is a thriving uh Latin

1186
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:12,880
culture um there are still areas that

1187
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,839
that we are we are lacking in providing

1188
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:20,160
that uh that community. I did a web

1189
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:24,000
search of 20 CPA firms within Concord.

1190
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Only one is advertising that they are by

1191
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,599
by bilingual and speak Spanish.

1192
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,680
Um so we we see a major need for for

1193
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:34,400
this this type of uh service that is

1194
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:37,280
being uh being proposed.

1195
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,920
Um the traffic impacts of this uh of

1196
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:43,119
this site um we would be generating

1197
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,520
approximately 16 trips per day. That's a

1198
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:48,640
net difference. Um it's a net increase

1199
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:51,680
of six trips. A typical residential home

1200
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:54,559
sees about 10 trips per day.

1201
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,280
And then as um as Mr. Ashley stated, one

1202
00:58:54,559 --> 00:59:00,000
of one of the conditions that we are um

1203
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,319
uh propo or that we have agreed to is

1204
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,559
that there will be 0% light um

1205
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:08,640
illumination on any kind of ground

1206
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:10,319
ground signage. Um the the uh the

1207
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,960
business is going to operate about two

1208
00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:15,839
to three employees and they have strict

1209
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:19,040
operating hours Monday to Monday through

1210
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:22,319
Friday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

1211
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Um again, this uh this business is going

1212
00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:28,240
to be um bringing in um bringing in jobs

1213
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:31,680
that have an income range of uh between

1214
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:35,119
41,000 to 90,000. It is a professional

1215
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,920
service and then again Charlotte Metro

1216
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:40,400
is ranked by a AARP

1217
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:44,920
um as one of the top top 10 best cities

1218
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,920
where uh Latin culture is flourishing

1219
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:55,760
and uh the the future 2030 plan does put

1220
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:57,680
us within a activity center. Um the uh

1221
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:01,520
excuse [clears throat] me uh the the

1222
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:03,119
future 2030 plan recommends um some some

1223
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,880
of the uh some of the options that it

1224
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:07,920
recommends in activity center indoor

1225
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,880
retail services, office uses, suburban

1226
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:14,000
offices, mixeduse neighborhoods. Again,

1227
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,839
we we feel that the office use um within

1228
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,680
this activity center and especially

1229
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:21,520
being on the um being on the limits of

1230
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,440
that activity center where we're

1231
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:26,079
transitioning into residential

1232
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,599
neighborhoods that this professional

1233
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:32,319
service is a good use of this property.

1234
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:35,520
Um, we are the client is planning on

1235
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:38,000
keeping the um the existing features of

1236
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,079
of the home so that way it looks and

1237
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,151
feels like you're entering still a

1238
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:45,172
residential neighborhood

1239
01:00:43,151 --> 01:00:45,172
[clears throat]

1240
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:54,000
and then um the the site and as Mr.

1241
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:58,240
Ashley had had alluded to um looking at

1242
01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:00,400
this um the the existing uh building the

1243
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:04,000
existing structure that sits you know

1244
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:06,319
plan center to the left of that was a um

1245
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:10,160
parking lot that was installed prior to

1246
01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:12,720
any sort of plan or um yeah any sort of

1247
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,559
uh development approval. And then as

1248
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,440
well um to the north of that we have

1249
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:19,440
existing driveway and existing um uh

1250
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,079
parking area along with the existing

1251
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:25,119
garage, existing patio. There is an

1252
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:28,559
existing um sidewalk that goes from

1253
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:32,440
Paliside Drive up to the uh front of the

1254
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:32,440
existing home today

1255
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,240
and the proposed changes of the site.

1256
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:43,200
again, um the parking lot that was

1257
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:46,480
installed um prior to plan approval,

1258
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:50,400
that needs to come up to current code um

1259
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,000
current code co code restrictions. So

1260
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,559
again, we we're going to have to verify

1261
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:58,079
a couple things when when we rebreak

1262
01:01:54,559 --> 01:02:01,280
ground and um and install uh and demo

1263
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:02,480
the um as as the site plan shows. So

1264
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,480
there are going to be some things that

1265
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:07,440
are going to be verified that they were

1266
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:11,920
installed correctly. Um I do want you to

1267
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:14,559
note um there is a um landscape buffer

1268
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:17,920
that is going to be would be uh plan

1269
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:20,799
west uh on the lefth hand side. It is a

1270
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:23,599
15 ft buffer. We are following the

1271
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:26,720
existing um ordinance requirements with

1272
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:29,280
that buffer. We are requesting for a

1273
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:33,599
reduction in that buffer. Um we have

1274
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:36,400
received um uh neighboring properties um

1275
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:38,559
their their their approval and a sign

1276
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:43,920
signed letter stating that they

1277
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:47,119
understand the buffer um the buffer um

1278
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,640
uh uh excuse me the buffer uh reduction.

1279
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:52,480
One thing that I'd like to note about

1280
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:54,160
the buffer uh the buffer reduction is

1281
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,079
that [clears throat]

1282
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:59,599
we are not going to be reducing the

1283
01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:02,000
number of buffer plants that are um uh

1284
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:03,760
proposed in that buffer. The same amount

1285
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,559
of of plantings are going to be planted

1286
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:10,160
within that buffer. And we are also

1287
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:13,839
adding a um six-foot um uh land

1288
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:17,799
landscaping privacy fence um due to that

1289
01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:17,799
buffer buffer reduction.

1290
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:25,760
And lastly, um I just wanted to talk

1291
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:28,960
about uh during our planning and zoning

1292
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:31,359
um uh com uh commission meeting, we

1293
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,200
talked about um there was there was a a

1294
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:36,799
few things that that came up from that.

1295
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:38,400
And um one was that the the neighborhood

1296
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:40,319
was concerned about traffic and

1297
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,000
concerned about traffic impacts that are

1298
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:46,559
going to be um felt within their within

1299
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,200
their neighborhood. if that if this uh

1300
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:52,319
does be uh if this does become re

1301
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:54,799
reszoned. Um so a couple things that

1302
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:56,640
that we we know and even from from the

1303
01:03:54,799 --> 01:04:00,079
images that you that you saw earlier in

1304
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:02,960
my slides is that um Buridge Road and

1305
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:05,839
also Paliside Drive has have great sight

1306
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,440
distances. So, um, what what that means

1307
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:10,319
is that you can be sitting at that

1308
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,680
intersection and see hundreds of feet to

1309
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:14,559
your left, hundreds of feet to your

1310
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:18,000
right, see any on oncoming traffic and

1311
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:22,480
be able to safely um go through that uh

1312
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:25,359
in uh safely use that uh intersection.

1313
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:28,079
Um, and then as well from our access

1314
01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:31,680
points from our uh ingress egress out of

1315
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:34,799
the in and into and out of the site. Um,

1316
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,200
again, great access point or great sight

1317
01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:41,629
lines so that way you can you can see

1318
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,629
traffic uh coming and going. [snorts]

1319
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:50,359
And now I'd like to open uh if the

1320
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:50,359
council has any questions.

1321
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,680
» Any questions, council?

1322
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,760
» There appears to be none.

1323
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:02,240
» Thank you so much.

1324
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,240
» Thank you.

1325
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:10,799
Okay. Sorry for that that confusion

1326
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:14,839
getting started. So now we'll ask David

1327
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:14,839
Phillips to come back up.

1328
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:22,799
» Good evening, mayor, council members,

1329
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,480
Miss Cochinsky, Mr. Payne,

1330
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:26,079
Leslie.

1331
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,920
I appreciate the opportunity to be here

1332
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:30,960
tonight. I want to talk to you about one

1333
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,400
aspect of this um issue concerning

1334
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:36,400
reasonzoning. Um I am a member of Eper

1335
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,920
Methodist Church. I am not here to speak

1336
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,920
on behalf of the church. I want that

1337
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,000
understood. But I do want to tell you

1338
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,799
about something that happened recently

1339
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:48,000
that I think factors into this whole

1340
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:51,680
issue. A couple years ago, we bought the

1341
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,920
house next door to Ep. And at the time,

1342
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,760
we also wanted to put up a digital sign

1343
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,119
in front of the church. We [snorts]

1344
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,119
could not put up the digital sign

1345
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:01,280
because a church property was zoned

1346
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:03,440
residential. So we went through the

1347
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,359
process. We went through the city and

1348
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,559
had the property reszoned from

1349
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:11,680
residential to OI. At the same time, it

1350
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:14,000
was suggested to us that we because we

1351
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,920
did own the property next door and it

1352
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,720
was also residential property because it

1353
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,000
had been a single family residence. It

1354
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,920
was suggested to us that we probably

1355
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,000
ought to resone that at the same time.

1356
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:27,200
And so we did. So we had both the church

1357
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:30,880
property and the what we call the Newton

1358
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:33,039
property next door reszoneed to Oi.

1359
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,039
As we got further down the road, we

1360
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:37,440
realized that if we ever were going to

1361
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:39,599
need that property next door to the

1362
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:42,559
church, it was going to be many years

1363
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:44,400
down the road. And so I was on the board

1364
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:47,359
of trustees at the time, also church

1365
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,119
council. um we made the decision we were

1366
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:51,039
going to sell that property because we

1367
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:54,400
didn't think we would possibly need it

1368
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:56,240
in the foreseeable future. So we put the

1369
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,160
property up for sale and then some of

1370
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,920
the residents of Beverly Hills asked

1371
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:03,440
some questions about it because of the

1372
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,880
OI zoning and they were concerned that

1373
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,119
as long as the church owned that

1374
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,880
property that was one thing but if we

1375
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:10,880
sold it they didn't know what would be

1376
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,400
there. So after a lot of thought and

1377
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,880
deliberation and discussion on the board

1378
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:18,079
of trustees, we came back to the city of

1379
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:20,400
Concord zoning requirements and reszone

1380
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:22,559
the property back to residential.

1381
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,880
We didn't have to do that, but we did

1382
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:26,799
that because we have always tried to be

1383
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:30,720
a good neighbor to the church, I mean to

1384
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:32,720
the to the um community. And we actually

1385
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,799
sold that property for less money than

1386
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,119
we could have gotten if we had stayed

1387
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:38,880
oi. But we did that because we're

1388
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:40,960
committed to be a good neighbor to the

1389
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,680
to the pro to the community and we felt

1390
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,599
like that's the right thing to do. So in

1391
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:48,720
that spirit, um I'm here to ask you

1392
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:51,119
tonight, please consider do not approve

1393
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,200
the reasoning request. Thank you.

1394
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:57,799
» Thank you.

1395
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,799
Okay. Next is Karen Miller.

1396
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:03,480
» Okay. Uh Diane Norwood.

1397
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,920
Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity

1398
01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:15,680
to speak. My name is Diane Norwood and I

1399
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,560
live in the Beverly Hills neighborhood

1400
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:21,040
for the last 10 years. I serve as the

1401
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:23,759
secretary to the Beverly Hills

1402
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,600
neighborhood. It's a recognized uh

1403
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:27,839
neighborhood and I've previously also

1404
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:32,000
been their president. This is not an

1405
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:35,199
HOA. It's a recognized neighborhood. Our

1406
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:37,679
goal is to communicate to and on behalf

1407
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:40,239
of our neighbors.

1408
01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:42,400
Well over a hundred neighbors after we

1409
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:44,960
found out about the the resoning

1410
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,000
contacted me to directly voice their

1411
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:50,159
objection. Many contacted the council

1412
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,799
directly. I think you got a bunch of

1413
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:56,000
emails, didn't you? We value the

1414
01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:58,080
council's time and service to our

1415
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:01,359
community and we hope to keep the number

1416
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:05,040
of speakers representing our 300 homes

1417
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:08,000
here tonight. Our request, please deny

1418
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:10,080
this resoning request. We have concerns

1419
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,920
about the impact to the families in the

1420
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:16,319
Beverly Hills neighborhood. The recently

1421
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,920
modified site plan shows parking for

1422
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,920
seven vehicles and they've said that

1423
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,400
they're only going to have hours 10 to

1424
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:25,440
7. Also understand it's a tax prep

1425
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:29,279
office. How many people can get and do

1426
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:32,239
their tax filings from 10:00 a.m. to

1427
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:34,080
5:00 pm Monday through Friday? That's

1428
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:36,319
that's kind of difficult for people who

1429
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,839
are working. So we have a little concern

1430
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,239
on whether that would be able to be

1431
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:42,799
maintained over the long period of time.

1432
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:45,600
Planning on Buridge Road then I think

1433
01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:47,520
needs to be restricted adjacent to that

1434
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,319
property. You've got a lot of property

1435
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,480
cars going back and forth. Um, we have a

1436
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:55,360
high volume of vehicles that turn off of

1437
01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:58,000
Lake Concord by the hospital onto

1438
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:01,040
Buridge Road and they would have limited

1439
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:03,600
time and visibility if we've got cars

1440
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,920
parked on that road. That's one issue.

1441
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:09,120
My other issue, it's probably a bigger

1442
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:12,320
issue is that we found out about the

1443
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,560
2030 land use plan when we started

1444
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,640
investigating this resoning. didn't

1445
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,960
really know about it ahead of time, but

1446
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:22,320
now we're worried that this could create

1447
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:25,199
a domino effect if this property, this

1448
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:28,239
first property that's listed on the 2030

1449
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:30,560
plan is approved.

1450
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:33,360
We've got, according to the map that

1451
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:35,760
I've read, there are seven properties on

1452
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:39,120
Buridge Road that are currently

1453
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:41,440
residential tracks. All of those parcels

1454
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,600
are are currently a residential except

1455
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:46,640
for the Epworth Church and the David

1456
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:49,679
Phillips Activity Center, soon to be a

1457
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:53,280
park. On the side streets, there are 12

1458
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:56,080
properties. Six on Palace side, four on

1459
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,199
the Klein, and two on Suburban. One's

1460
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:01,679
mine. Didn't know [clears throat] about

1461
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:03,679
it. Um, if this resoning is approved,

1462
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:06,080
we're worried about any additional

1463
01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:07,679
resoning tracks. Could it be easily

1464
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,719
reszoned in the future? because they're

1465
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:13,440
now on that. We value our neighborhood.

1466
01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:15,679
We have a strong local community. We

1467
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:18,880
look for our seniors. We look out for

1468
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:22,080
the children. We Whoops. We welcome new

1469
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:25,280
families. Um we have families with

1470
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,440
multiple generations here. Almost 75

1471
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:30,400
years ago, the Beverly Hills

1472
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:34,400
neighborhood was the first World War II

1473
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:37,040
planned community in Concord. Most of

1474
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,760
the homes were built midentury for

1475
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,760
surgeons and doctors and working people

1476
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,800
at the hospital. Several have

1477
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:48,320
exceptional exceptional architectural

1478
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,640
features. All are designed for families.

1479
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,960
I bought my home 10 years ago to live

1480
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,760
next door to families. I got one more

1481
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,400
second.

1482
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:59,199
» I made a point to meet my f my neighbors

1483
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,360
and be a friend to them. Um I want to

1484
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:02,640
continue to live in family right

1485
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,920
» With Next Door. Thank you.

1486
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:08,440
» Thank you.

1487
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,440
Okay, next is Lee Schuman.

1488
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:19,199
Good evening, mayor and uh council

1489
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:21,440
members. I think it's evident in the

1490
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:23,280
communication that you've received from

1491
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:26,080
uh many of the neighborhood members uh

1492
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:29,360
the opposition to this resoning. You

1493
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:31,520
might kind of ask why that is. Um, I

1494
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:34,320
think simply put is that we need to be

1495
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:37,280
selective about resoning requests like

1496
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:39,280
this. It's somewhat confusing for

1497
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,679
neighbors when they see the 2030 land

1498
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,960
use plan and it says mixed activity,

1499
01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:47,120
mixed use activity center. Um, that

1500
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,800
sounds really good until you start

1501
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,520
talking about what the reasonzoning can

1502
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,040
possibly be. Um, the presentation on

1503
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,400
this case, I want to make sure I make

1504
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,199
something clear. I think at the work

1505
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:59,120
session it was mentioned that uh this

1506
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:00,880
house was not conducive or attractive

1507
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:03,600
any longer for residential users and had

1508
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,400
been on the market for 7 to 8 years. I

1509
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,159
believe that was either some

1510
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,080
misunderstanding or just some bad

1511
01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:11,920
information. This house was occupied by

1512
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:14,400
a family from 2019 to 2024. They did

1513
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:17,840
improvements to the outbuildings on this

1514
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:20,239
parcel. Uh improved landscaping. They

1515
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:22,320
were great neighbors. This has always

1516
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:25,920
been a very good uh residential use.

1517
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:27,199
hasn't been a derelict use at all. Um, I

1518
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,440
think the current owner is only the

1519
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:31,760
fifth owner in the last 40 years in this

1520
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:32,880
community. I think that's important. As

1521
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,640
a matter of fact, this community has

1522
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,719
been a consistent uh attractive

1523
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,679
residential neighborhood for 75 years.

1524
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:42,960
I've lived at Grand View Drive for going

1525
01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:45,760
on 20 years now, believe it or not.

1526
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:48,000
Raised three children there. Um, I think

1527
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,239
all of the the vibrancy of this

1528
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,760
neighborhood is really interesting.

1529
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:54,239
You've got people who've lived here for

1530
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,920
decades. I mean, original homeowners.

1531
01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:58,320
You've got new families moving in with

1532
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,760
children. When you walking down up down

1533
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,000
these streets or driving up and down the

1534
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,440
streets, we have to slow down. People

1535
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,520
are walking in the streets. Kids are

1536
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:08,000
riding bikes. That community hasn't had

1537
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:10,400
that in years.

1538
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,320
Um, it's amazing what that community has

1539
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,239
continued to do over the last 75 years,

1540
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:18,000
and I think it'll continue to do more

1541
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:19,920
for the next 75 if we protect it. Um, I

1542
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,000
don't have any issue with the applicant.

1543
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,760
Um, I do think a home occupation here

1544
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:26,640
would be totally acceptable. We have num

1545
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:28,719
numerous uh home occupations up and down

1546
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,640
Burge Road. But if you if you've ever

1547
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:32,960
driven down this road, you come down

1548
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,600
Buridge, it's all residential property

1549
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,360
all the way to Concord High School. My

1550
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,440
kids ride their bikes down Buridge

1551
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,199
because they can go underneath Highway

1552
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:44,640
Three and get to their friends houses on

1553
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:47,120
the other side of three. Uh closer to my

1554
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,719
house is Myiar and that's a really

1555
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,560
dangerous intersection going across to

1556
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:53,280
the high school. My daughter who

1557
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,040
actually drives goes that way because

1558
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:58,400
it's safer. She can drive down Buridge

1559
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:00,480
and underneath. Um all those uses are

1560
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,080
residential other than the David

1561
01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:04,719
Phillips Activity Center which has been

1562
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,480
a great uh addition to our neighborhood.

1563
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:07,600
That's the kind of activity center I

1564
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:10,560
think we all thought we were getting

1565
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:12,239
when we saw that 2030 land use plan. So,

1566
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,159
I think we just need to be selective on

1567
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:16,480
what we're doing here. Just because the

1568
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:18,480
land use plan says we can doesn't mean

1569
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:20,320
we should. I don't think it's the right

1570
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:22,880
time and I don't think it's the right

1571
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:26,760
use for this particular parcel. So,

1572
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,760
thank you. I appreciate your time.

1573
01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:33,880
[applause]

1574
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,880
» Okay. Our next speaker is Suzanne Smith.

1575
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,640
» Good evening. Uh, mayor and council

1576
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,520
members, thank you for letting us speak

1577
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,360
tonight. Um, so my name is Suzanne Smith

1578
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:50,560
and I've lived in the Beverly Hills

1579
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:53,120
neighborhood now for uh, 10 years or a

1580
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:55,760
little bit more. Um, I'm respectfully

1581
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:58,159
asking you to deny the resoning request

1582
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,520
for 285 Palicide.

1583
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:01,520
My neighbors and I have been talking

1584
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,920
with you for a couple of months now

1585
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:06,719
about concerns with traffic safety, the

1586
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,719
domino effect, and the perils of spot

1587
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:12,239
zoning. So, I'm not going to go into

1588
01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:14,960
that more this evening. Um, one of my

1589
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:17,600
biggest concerns is actually uh the

1590
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:20,719
petitioner's conduct with the property

1591
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:22,800
before seeking approval from the city.

1592
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:25,120
Significant concrete improvements

1593
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:28,000
specifically for a business were made

1594
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:29,520
without permits or city review. When

1595
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:33,280
questioned at the zoning meeting in

1596
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,880
July, two explanations were offered.

1597
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,719
First, the petitioner has said that

1598
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,120
gravel previously existed in the

1599
01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:41,679
sideyard and so she simply replaced it

1600
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:43,600
with concrete. However, the photos from

1601
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:45,679
the real estate listing when the when

1602
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:48,159
the property was purchased show that

1603
01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:49,679
there was actually a lawn. Um the

1604
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:53,760
driveway has always been behind the

1605
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:55,760
house. Um secondly, the petitioner

1606
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,360
stated she was unaware permits were

1607
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,120
required.

1608
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,199
However, she's owned and operated a

1609
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,080
masonry and concrete company in Winston

1610
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:06,480
Salem for more than 20 years.

1611
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,159
Given that background, it is reasonable

1612
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:10,800
to expect an understanding that

1613
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:13,600
significant site modifications might

1614
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:16,320
require a permit or at the minimum a

1615
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,800
consultation with the city. She actually

1616
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,880
made a business decision to disrespect

1617
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:24,320
and ignore the zoning process and

1618
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:26,880
regulations of our city.

1619
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:30,159
This matters because resoning decisions

1620
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:32,080
depend in part on trust and credibility.

1621
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:34,719
The council must be able to rely on the

1622
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:37,280
representations made uh regarding

1623
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:38,960
traffic, number of employees, hours of

1624
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,360
operation, and any future use of the

1625
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,440
property. Yet throughout this process,

1626
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,199
there have been inconsistencies.

1627
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:48,800
For example, the number of employees was

1628
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:51,120
pro proposed uh to the APOS in March as

1629
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:54,000
1 to two, but in the zoning meeting in

1630
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,800
July, it became no more than four. And

1631
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,120
tonight, it's now 2 to 3. The hours of

1632
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,520
operation ending at 5 are questionable

1633
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:05,440
when during tax season, I've never seen

1634
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:07,280
a tax office that is not open late. When

1635
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:09,280
significant changes has have already

1636
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,040
been made without approval and

1637
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,120
information is inconsistent or

1638
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,120
questionable throughout the process, it

1639
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,120
becomes difficult to have confidence in

1640
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,120
those assurances.

1641
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,360
If a property owner chooses to make

1642
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,760
substantial changes before obtaining the

1643
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:26,640
necessary approvals. The answer should

1644
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:28,960
not be to bend established regulations

1645
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,880
and reward a change in zoning. The

1646
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,280
answer should be to uphold the standards

1647
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,280
that protect every resident, every

1648
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,280
property owner, and every neighborhood

1649
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:39,360
in our city.

1650
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,600
I don't believe our community is opposed

1651
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,400
to new businesses. I'm certainly not.

1652
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:46,480
I'm certainly not opposed to growth. I

1653
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,480
do believe that commercial operations

1654
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:51,280
belong in areas that are already zoned

1655
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:53,199
and planned for commercial use. So, I

1656
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,400
respectfully ask that you deny this

1657
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:56,359
request. Thank you.

1658
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,120
» Thank you.

1659
01:18:56,359 --> 01:19:01,880
[applause]

1660
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,880
» Okay. Next is David Chrysenberry.

1661
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,760
» Hello all, mayor, members of city

1662
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:10,560
council.

1663
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:13,280
Um, the house

1664
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,120
at 285 Paliside was designed as a

1665
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,080
residence

1666
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:21,080
and it's best used as a residence in the

1667
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,080
future.

1668
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,120
Um,

1669
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:32,120
and a home occupation definitely would

1670
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:32,120
be something that would work

1671
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:38,800
for me personally.

1672
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,480
This is a draw a map showing the nine

1673
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,560
traffic concerns that I have. I'll

1674
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:44,320
quickly go through them. When you come

1675
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,320
off of Lake Concord Road, you don't

1676
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,800
really have to slow down when you come

1677
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:51,679
on to Buridge. You just basically ramp

1678
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,800
off into Buridge. you'd likely be able

1679
01:19:51,679 --> 01:20:00,640
to dead rear in someone turning into the

1680
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:05,440
drive at 285 at at uh for this property.

1681
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:09,199
Number two is uh

1682
01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:12,320
the actual drive itself uh there at U

1683
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:14,480
Buridge Road. That's their in drive.

1684
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:17,600
Number three, there's just too much

1685
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:20,960
going on at this area.

1686
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,960
Uh number three is the medical drive

1687
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:26,320
that it's a right in right out but

1688
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,560
people don't abide by that. Number four

1689
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:32,880
is paliside. Well paliside is not a

1690
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:34,960
90deree term and any dot uh expert will

1691
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:37,840
tell you that a 90deree intersection is

1692
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:40,640
a a safer intersection.

1693
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:43,199
Uh number five is a second medical

1694
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,199
office entrance.

1695
01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:48,719
Then you turn on the palside and number

1696
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:53,040
six is a driveway to a house. Number

1697
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:55,440
seven is the is the driveway out of 285.

1698
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,679
There's just too many intersections

1699
01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:59,840
here.

1700
01:20:57,679 --> 01:21:01,840
I'm also added two other areas. Number

1701
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,760
eight and number nine. Number eight,

1702
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:07,600
keep in mind Buridge Road is going to

1703
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:09,520
get it's very busy road.

1704
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:12,320
As someone else earlier today said,

1705
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:14,080
people aren't abiding by speed limits.

1706
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:17,600
When you go down Barage Road, you're

1707
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:21,080
going to have 25 new houses and 60 new

1708
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,080
patio homes.

1709
01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:27,040
Also, when you go down Palisside,

1710
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:29,520
you're going to have 300

1711
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,679
students at the Mary Francis Wall

1712
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,120
Center.

1713
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:37,120
So, I again I do have safety concerns,

1714
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:42,440
traffic concerns.

1715
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:42,440
So please please uh deny this resoning.

1716
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:47,316
Thank you.

1717
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,840
» Thank you.

1718
01:21:47,316 --> 01:21:51,120
[applause]

1719
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:54,880
And those are all the persons that we

1720
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:56,960
have signed up to speak. And so Valerie,

1721
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:59,199
you want to walk us through the

1722
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,480
» We'd like to let's ask Mr. Gunus if he

1723
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:03,480
has a rebuttal.

1724
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,480
» Okay.

1725
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,880
» You can take five minutes.

1726
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,040
» Okay. Yeah, not a problem. Uh yeah, I ju

1727
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,920
I just want to just talk again back

1728
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,760
about the um traffic

1729
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,840
um

1730
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:18,560
with a

1731
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:21,199
entrance only and then an exit exit only

1732
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:24,239
off off of palisides. That's that's that

1733
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:26,320
that changes things quite a bit. um you

1734
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:28,080
know, our our access point off a bridge,

1735
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,800
people are only going to be turning in

1736
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:34,080
into our site and not exiting and

1737
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,920
causing um as as as the as the gentleman

1738
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:39,199
just said that, you know, a lot going

1739
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:41,280
on. We we understand that. So, again, we

1740
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:44,880
are we are creating that as only an an

1741
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:47,360
entrance only and driveway standards and

1742
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:50,159
spacing based on both the city and also

1743
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:52,320
the state. um that that driveway that is

1744
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:55,679
off of Buridge does meet those spacing

1745
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:59,440
spacing requirements. Um, so I I do just

1746
01:22:55,679 --> 01:23:03,840
want to state that. Um, as far as the

1747
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:07,840
commercial zoning and in respects to the

1748
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:10,639
building architecture, um, a commercial

1749
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,880
uh, zoning that has commercial, what

1750
01:23:10,639 --> 01:23:14,480
that does to the building um,

1751
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,000
structurally is they have to meet

1752
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:17,840
different standards than what the

1753
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,960
residential standards are for

1754
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:23,199
structures. So, actually the the

1755
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:26,320
building will be refortified. there's

1756
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:27,679
going to be ADA type uh bathrooms and

1757
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:31,679
that sort of thing inside of the

1758
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:33,679
building. So, um you know, again, some

1759
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:36,239
of the some of the construction of of of

1760
01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:38,960
the building um gets

1761
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:41,440
um has an engineering architect go

1762
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:44,560
through it and they um make those make

1763
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:46,320
those revisions. Um

1764
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:50,080
and then

1765
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:51,760
I just want to state a little bit about

1766
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:55,440
the home occupation. It sounds like

1767
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:57,520
everybody is in favor of it of a home

1768
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:59,760
occu, you know, a home occupation being

1769
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:03,760
there, but they're not in favor of the

1770
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:07,440
of the commercial zoning. Um, and I I

1771
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:10,880
from my understanding is that they don't

1772
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:14,159
want this to be um opened as a Pandora's

1773
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:18,000
box, right? If you will, I totally get

1774
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:19,920
that. But in these types of conditional

1775
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:23,360
zonings, right, [snorts]

1776
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:27,440
we are stating conditions that it it has

1777
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:29,120
to remain a CPA office. If something

1778
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:30,960
else comes in, it has to come back in

1779
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:34,400
front of front of the board and has to

1780
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:36,480
get approved as such. Um

1781
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:39,040
zonings are, you know, the these types

1782
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:42,719
of zoning meetings are it's not just a

1783
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:44,800
blanket blanket zoning. and um we we

1784
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:46,880
understand that uh that there are checks

1785
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,760
and balances and that's that is why why

1786
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:52,000
we're here today. So um other than that

1787
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,320
I think that is all the rebuttal that I

1788
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,040
have.

1789
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,120
» Thank you.

1790
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,120
» Thank you.

1791
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,440
» So the opponents can also have a brief

1792
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:09,440
rebuttal. Is there anyone on the on the

1793
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:11,600
opposition side that wishes to say

1794
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:14,800
anything more?

1795
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:18,679
It would need to address what um the the

1796
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,679
proponent had just said.

1797
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,920
Okay. Hearing none.

1798
01:25:26,719 --> 01:25:31,679
» Oh, for Kevin. Yeah.

1799
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,920
» I need to do that before you close

1800
01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:34,800
public hearing. Right.

1801
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,800
» Go ahead, Jennifer.

1802
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:40,400
» Good. two for you Kevin.

1803
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:43,280
» Um first would be

1804
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:46,480
hours of service has been discussed. Um

1805
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:48,560
is that a condition that can be I mean I

1806
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:50,480
know an applicant or a developer can

1807
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,560
place any condition they choose. Right.

1808
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:54,320
We cannot do that. Talk to me a little

1809
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,800
bit about the enforcement of that. I

1810
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,080
understand a buffer. I understand. Can

1811
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,239
you elaborate on that a little bit?

1812
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,679
» I mean that that could be something that

1813
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:03,600
could be suggested to the applicant.

1814
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:05,920
They would have to agree to that. Of

1815
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,199
course, it would be like any other

1816
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,600
zoning condition. It would have to be

1817
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:13,199
enforced by code enforcement or someone,

1818
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:14,800
» Right? So, there they say 10 to 5, it's

1819
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:17,040
7:00

1820
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,239
we have to call Jimmy and excuse me, we

1821
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,600
have to call the chief and code

1822
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:20,080
enforcement would get involved.

1823
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,560
» Correct.

1824
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,480
» Okay. Um, second question is can you

1825
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,760
talk also a little bit about operating a

1826
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:29,360
home business because that's a little

1827
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:31,679
bit that if you could expand on that of

1828
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,360
you know because I know that that's also

1829
01:26:31,679 --> 01:26:34,880
I just want to be clear too there's

1830
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,239
there's a lot of parameters around

1831
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,920
operating a home business and there's a

1832
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:39,440
lot of people sitting here and I don't

1833
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,679
want them to think that it's open season

1834
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:42,400
on just let me go and open a business

1835
01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:46,239
too.

1836
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:48,239
» So home occupations currently we have a

1837
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:49,760
whole list of those top of the list

1838
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:52,800
accountants offices. So, you could have

1839
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:56,880
a home business. No more than 25% of the

1840
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:58,400
floor area could be devoted to that use.

1841
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,880
Um,

1842
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:05,760
no more than one

1843
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:09,040
um non-resident employee could be there.

1844
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,679
Um, but there was there was recently a

1845
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:14,719
bill passed by the legislature

1846
01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:17,040
as of like three weeks ago,

1847
01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:19,360
uh,

1848
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:21,840
House Bill

1849
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:23,679
House Bill 372.

1850
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,360
And a lot of the planners don't even

1851
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:27,280
know this came about. It's it's it's

1852
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,440
something called a no impact home

1853
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,920
business, which basically says we have

1854
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:34,159
to allow them numbers of employees would

1855
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,080
be based upon from what we're reading

1856
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:39,360
from residential occupancy. So if you

1857
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:41,920
could if eight people were allowed in

1858
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:45,679
the house based on number of bedrooms,

1859
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:47,520
you could have eight clients and eight a

1860
01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:49,040
total of eight people with clients and

1861
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:54,400
residents. I mean, but this is this is a

1862
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:56,320
bill that just just came out. So,

1863
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:58,719
those are the big things about a home

1864
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,560
home occupation. Basically, low low

1865
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:02,635
impact, not meant to have a lot of

1866
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,656
traffic.

1867
01:28:02,635 --> 01:28:04,656
[clears throat]

1868
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:09,600
» I have a question for Kevin as well

1869
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,040
because that was one of my kind of

1870
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,040
thoughts.

1871
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,840
Can a home business still essentially be

1872
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:18,719
ran and if it goes by occupancy, you can

1873
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,199
still have five, six, seven cars parked

1874
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:19,600
there?

1875
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:22,239
» Certainly.

1876
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,639
» So, the traffic wouldn't change,

1877
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,480
» Right?

1878
01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:26,960
» And you also don't have to do any

1879
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:29,360
significant repairs to the home because

1880
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,080
it's a home business or how would that

1881
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,239
work?

1882
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:35,360
» I I do not believe that a home

1883
01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:37,440
occupation has to be brought up to ADA

1884
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,120
compliance.

1885
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:40,239
So, that's that's the difference. So we

1886
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,920
wouldn't have to have the handicapped

1887
01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:44,480
ramp,

1888
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,000
» So on and so forth.

1889
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:47,360
» Kevin, just I'm just going to ask a

1890
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,360
blunt question. What's the difference?

1891
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,719
And why we've got a lot of folks that

1892
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,239
are, you know, complaining, not

1893
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:54,639
complaining, but opposition, I should

1894
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:56,320
say, of the of the commercial side. And

1895
01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:59,920
what weigh it out for me.

1896
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:03,040
» After after listening to the testimony,

1897
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:05,920
it sounds like the concern is the fact

1898
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:07,840
of setting a precedent for future

1899
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:10,159
resonings, you know, coming down the

1900
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,239
pike. And then of course I'll paraphrase

1901
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:14,239
our wonderful city attorney who has

1902
01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:15,679
basically said before there's there's

1903
01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:17,840
not really a precedent. Everything sort

1904
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:20,560
of stands on its own. But I think their

1905
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,679
concerns are that you know I think a

1906
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,080
couple of the people talked about the

1907
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:26,000
domino effect.

1908
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,760
Lori.

1909
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,080
» Well, I think Alviverus asked my

1910
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,679
question really, and I guess I'm sort of

1911
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,600
trying to formulate in my head, what's

1912
01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:37,360
the difference between having a home

1913
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:38,400
business and having this having this? I

1914
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,600
mean, it doesn't sound like to me

1915
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,280
there's going to be much difference,

1916
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,000
right? Am I just to make sure I

1917
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,360
understand correctly?

1918
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,760
» There would have to be, you know, a

1919
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,320
resident that lives there full-time.

1920
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,280
It's also

1921
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,960
» Assuming that

1922
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:51,040
» It's also the operator of the business.

1923
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,560
It could be I mean, I guess a home

1924
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,920
occupation doesn't have to be the

1925
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,159
property owner. or it could just be

1926
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,679
someone that

1927
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:59,280
» Because we do have we do have homes that

1928
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:02,480
are rented where people run

1929
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:04,000
» Home businesses. One one difference

1930
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:06,639
» Um that I don't think anyone's brought

1931
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,199
up is if it were a home business there

1932
01:30:06,639 --> 01:30:09,600
would be some somebody there 24 hours a

1933
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:11,040
day,

1934
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,560
» Right? My question

1935
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,159
» To potentially I mean I guess someone

1936
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:17,600
could have could have parties could have

1937
01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:20,320
a lot of visitors after five o'clock. So

1938
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,920
it's sort of you know the other end of

1939
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:24,880
the of the coin. And so that I think

1940
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:26,480
those are the two big differences.

1941
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,719
» Okay.

1942
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:29,520
» Any additional question? Terry, did you

1943
01:30:28,719 --> 01:30:31,600
have

1944
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:33,520
» And I'm I'm sorry, Kevin. I just want to

1945
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,040
make sure that I fully understand this.

1946
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,760
So

1947
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:40,800
with zoning, there is a little bit more

1948
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:43,360
I say control of what can run in and

1949
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,199
out. But with the home business, there's

1950
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,440
not.

1951
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:49,440
» Correct. The the the home occupation

1952
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:51,040
could be there's no site plan review

1953
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:53,360
involved. It's basically just a home

1954
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,440
occupation permit

1955
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,440
from us with with with with the

1956
01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:59,760
commercial zoning.

1957
01:30:57,440 --> 01:31:03,199
There would be landscaping

1958
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:04,719
required. Um, and of course compliance

1959
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:06,480
with ADA and all of that.

1960
01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:07,920
» But if we were to bullet point the

1961
01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:10,320
issues, I mean obviously the one about

1962
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,719
the domino effect is one that stands

1963
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,400
alone in my opinion, but the issues of

1964
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:16,960
traffic and so on and so forth, there's

1965
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,400
no difference. Am I hearing that? Or

1966
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,840
could not be difference. I

1967
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,280
» I mean if they

1968
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,199
I mean potentially they could have the

1969
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,520
same number of people there with the

1970
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:25,600
home.

1971
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,440
» Now did I hear you right? If it's a

1972
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,040
classified as a home business, does a

1973
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:29,440
person have to literally live there?

1974
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:29,760
» Yes.

1975
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:31,280
» Okay.

1976
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,679
» Yes. One of the operators would have to

1977
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:32,880
live there.

1978
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:34,800
» So that's a big difference.

1979
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,719
» Right. That's that's the big the big

1980
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,480
difference and the and the zoning would

1981
01:31:36,719 --> 01:31:41,040
stay residential.

1982
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:43,040
» But but did I understand she said she

1983
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,320
would live there if this didn't

1984
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,400
» No, ma'am.

1985
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,520
» She did not say that. Okay. All right.

1986
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,840
Thank you.

1987
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,760
Is the is the individualist running this

1988
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,239
business here? Are they is is anybody

1989
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,600
here?

1990
01:31:54,239 --> 01:32:00,040
» She didn't speak. So, I'm just want to

1991
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:00,040
see. Thank you for raising your hand.

1992
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:04,639
» Okay. Any other questions? John

1993
01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:06,320
» Kevin, thanks for taking care of us on

1994
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:08,960
this. I just have a question about uh

1995
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:10,880
when you have a home business, um we've

1996
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:13,679
had a lot of change in signage. Is there

1997
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:15,120
any signage allowed? Um, and it's not,

1998
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:17,199
if I understand right, it's not part of,

1999
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:19,679
this neighborhood is not a HOA

2000
01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:20,159
controlled. So, is there any signage

2001
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:22,400
allowed?

2002
01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:25,360
» Well, we we we talked about that earlier

2003
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:27,280
today. There is a there's a gap in our

2004
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:31,040
sign ordinance that that does not

2005
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:32,320
address signage for homebased businesses

2006
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,639
particularly. So, it would it would fall

2007
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:37,520
under the residential signage

2008
01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:39,120
requirements, which would probably be,

2009
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,320
you know, I haven't looked at it, but

2010
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,320
fairly similar to what they're

2011
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,320
proposing.

2012
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,960
Okay, any other questions?

2013
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,520
» I don't have a question. Uh, just a

2014
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,679
comment, but my takeaway from this is

2015
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:57,600
like it was shared before. I believe the

2016
01:32:53,679 --> 01:33:00,880
main concern is the fab damaging the

2017
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:03,440
fabric of the neighborhood is that and

2018
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:06,159
when I think about I looked around the

2019
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:09,040
city and I don't know if everyone here

2020
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:10,960
is familiar with the

2021
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:13,520
stretch of

2022
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:16,384
on church street between

2023
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,760
Buffalo and Kani. Now looking

2024
01:33:16,384 --> 01:33:20,480
[clears throat] at that it appears that

2025
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:23,280
years ago it was all residential and now

2026
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:25,040
it's mainly commercial but the houses

2027
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:28,960
you need to tell by the structures that

2028
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:31,960
they were once residential. So that's my

2029
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,960
comment.

2030
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,920
» All right we will close the public

2031
01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:40,560
hearing. Uh and Valerie I'll ask you to

2032
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:43,280
guide us through the process.

2033
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:45,760
» All right. If we could please get the um

2034
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:49,679
statements of consistency back up there

2035
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:53,360
pre previous. Yeah, there we go. So if

2036
01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:57,040
you are you have two suggested um

2037
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:59,600
drafted statements of consistency. The

2038
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,920
first three bullet points, excuse me, on

2039
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:04,560
both [clears throat] sides are the same.

2040
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:07,360
And the bottom bullet point on each side

2041
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:09,679
is different. one side supporting

2042
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:12,639
approval of the resoning and one side

2043
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:15,199
supporting denial of the resoning. Um,

2044
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:18,080
so what you would need to do now is we

2045
01:34:15,199 --> 01:34:20,320
need a motion to adopt one of these

2046
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,440
statements of consistency.

2047
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,920
» Thank you,

2048
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:27,440
» Mayor. I'll make a motion if time the

2049
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:28,960
time to do that we deny this for the

2050
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:30,320
zoning amendment. It is not reasonable

2051
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,600
and it's not in the public interest of

2052
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,480
this area.

2053
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,440
» All right, we have

2054
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:39,600
» I would second that. We have a motion

2055
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:40,719
and a second supporting denial.

2056
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,840
» I have a comment.

2057
01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:43,679
» Yes, ma'am.

2058
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,600
» Um, and my comment is in reference to

2059
01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:48,800
the land use plan because it actually

2060
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:50,080
does reference that in here. And so, uh,

2061
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,000
a lot of you guys brought that up

2062
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,600
tonight and I would also like to say

2063
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,600
there's a lot of full chairs in here,

2064
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,960
which is really nice to see to be

2065
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,840
completely honest with you. It's part of

2066
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:02,400
the process. Um, I would also say that

2067
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:04,880
we discussed on Tuesday night, uh, the

2068
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:08,080
upcoming land use plan is going to be

2069
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:11,120
looked at. Um, that would be a great

2070
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:13,679
time to give feedback because understand

2071
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:17,120
that a lot of times the only time we get

2072
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:18,960
feedback are in these situations. So, do

2073
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:21,280
know that when we do these land use

2074
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:25,120
plans, there are meetings, there are

2075
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:27,040
hours and hours of public open input.

2076
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,320
And I gotta tell you, there's about the

2077
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,719
five people that are sitting on the

2078
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:33,520
front row that give the input. So, it

2079
01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:35,760
would really be beneficial for us um

2080
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,679
from a standpoint of that because it was

2081
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,960
brought up several times. So, I just I

2082
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:41,040
just wanted to make that comment. I

2083
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:44,560
think it's a a real opportunity for

2084
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:46,800
people to to give us input um instead of

2085
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,960
it coming to to this place. So, thank

2086
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:48,320
you.

2087
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,840
» Thank you.

2088
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:55,840
And I I am assuming there would be some

2089
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:57,679
community meetings as part of this plan.

2090
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,000
» Yes. The word copious mean.

2091
01:35:57,679 --> 01:35:59,600
» Yes.

2092
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:03,120
» There will be there will be a lot

2093
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:05,040
» Lots of opportunities for citizen input

2094
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:08,639
for sure.

2095
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:12,239
Okay. We have a motion and a second. Is

2096
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:15,440
there any discussion? Yes, sir. So, I

2097
01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:18,639
want to thank Kevin Ashley for his

2098
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:20,960
walking us through this and the

2099
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:24,560
ramifications of all this. I want to

2100
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:27,840
thank the representative of the owner

2101
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:31,360
for presenting. Well, you did that. I

2102
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:34,000
also want to thank the members of this

2103
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:37,360
community who have spoken very clearly

2104
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:39,920
to us in many different forums.

2105
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:44,080
This has been a much better meeting than

2106
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:46,480
I feared this evening and I am thankful

2107
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:49,040
for everybody's participation in this

2108
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:51,840
but I'm really do think at this stage it

2109
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:56,159
is time for us to deny this resing.

2110
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:58,320
» Great. Any other discussion?

2111
01:36:56,159 --> 01:37:01,280
Okay. Hearing none, we will move to a

2112
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,800
vote. We do have a motion and a second.

2113
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,960
Can you supporting

2114
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,800
» Yes, ma'am. Make sure you say which

2115
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,880
motion it is because this is on the

2116
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,639
statement of consistency. And then

2117
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,760
Valerie, the next vote that we'll take

2118
01:37:10,639 --> 01:37:13,520
is on the reszone.

2119
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:17,360
» Correct. Correct. Correct. We are at the

2120
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:19,440
stage of of um adopting the suggested

2121
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:23,840
statement of consistency. There is a

2122
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:27,119
motion and a second on the table for the

2123
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:28,960
supporting denial one with the red

2124
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:30,719
caption.

2125
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:33,440
Not reasonable. Not in the public

2126
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:36,960
interest. That's where we are.

2127
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:38,719
If there's any confusion about that,

2128
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,679
» Then then we got a problem because we've

2129
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:41,760
said it three times.

2130
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:44,400
» And after we take that vote, there will

2131
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,440
be a second vote where you vote on the

2132
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,119
resoning itself.

2133
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:49,520
» Right.

2134
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:51,840
Okay. Does anybody have any question

2135
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:54,159
about what they're voting on?

2136
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,280
» I think it's crystal clear.

2137
01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:57,679
» Yes.

2138
01:37:55,280 --> 01:38:00,880
» So, we have a motion and a second

2139
01:37:57,679 --> 01:38:02,639
supporting denial. All in favor, please

2140
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,360
say I.

2141
01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:06,800
All oppose, please say no.

2142
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:10,320
» No.

2143
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:13,760
» Okay. So, we've got

2144
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:16,719
three nos and

2145
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:19,360
four yeses.

2146
01:38:16,719 --> 01:38:22,800
Correct.

2147
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:25,548
» Great. So, that motion passes.

2148
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,960
» Next up, I turn it back to you, Valerie.

2149
01:38:25,548 --> 01:38:31,040
[clears throat]

2150
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:34,080
So the next um uh step in the process is

2151
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:36,880
to to approve or deny the reasonzoning

2152
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,880
itself. If you are for some reason going

2153
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,320
to adopt the denial statement of

2154
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,320
consistency but approve the

2155
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:47,199
reasonzoning, I don't suggest doing

2156
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:49,119
that. Um because it's inconsistent. Um

2157
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:50,880
you would do with the approval with the

2158
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:52,719
conditions. If you're denying the motion

2159
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:55,600
can just be a motion to deny the

2160
01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:58,080
reasoning.

2161
01:38:55,600 --> 01:39:01,199
All right. So, council, any any

2162
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:03,440
questions on that? So, do I hear a

2163
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:06,159
motion

2164
01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:08,400
to either approve

2165
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:11,760
or deny

2166
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,960
the zoning map amendment?

2167
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,960
» Mayor, I'll go ahead and make that

2168
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:16,400
motion as well to deny the zoning map

2169
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,360
amendment.

2170
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,400
» Second.

2171
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:24,880
» Okay, we have a motion and a second to

2172
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:28,840
deny the zoning map amendment.

2173
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,840
Is there any discussion

2174
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:36,000
hearing? None. All in favor, please say

2175
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:38,960
I and raise your hand.

2176
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:42,480
One, two, three, four, five. That is

2177
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:44,000
unanimous. So that motion passes. Thank

2178
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:46,960
you.

2179
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:51,119
All right. We move now to the next item

2180
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:54,320
on the agenda which is another uh public

2181
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:59,119
hearing which I will go ahead and open

2182
01:39:54,320 --> 01:40:02,119
up. I think Autumn is going to brief for

2183
01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:02,119
Kevin.

2184
01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:11,000
» Okay. Hey,

2185
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,840
» And if you want to wait for just a

2186
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,080
moment until

2187
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:25,159
» Till until council chambers empties out

2188
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:25,159
a little bit so everybody can hear.

2189
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:39,760
Okay, I think we're good to go ahead.

2190
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:41,920
» All right. Good evening, Mr. Mayor,

2191
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:45,800
members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss

2192
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,800
Gchinsky, and Miss Jenkins.

2193
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:58,000
» So, this is a text amendment for the

2194
01:40:56,239 --> 01:40:59,840
neighbor neighborhood infill residential

2195
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,679
district. And then we had one part that

2196
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,199
was added about the signs that we missed

2197
01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:05,920
last month. So I'll go through this

2198
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:08,239
relatively quickly. Uh so the article to

2199
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,520
be amended is article 9.5 which is the

2200
01:41:08,239 --> 01:41:12,480
neighborhood infill residential

2201
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:15,040
district. And uh this basically looks at

2202
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:16,400
our tiny homes in our cottage homes. And

2203
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:19,360
then we're going to quickly look at

2204
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:22,239
incidental signs um directory signs in

2205
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:24,480
um center city. So the background of

2206
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:27,440
this very quickly is that in October of

2207
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:30,239
2023, city council amended the CDO to

2208
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:32,080
create the NRD. And during that time,

2209
01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:34,960
the past three years, we've gotten a lot

2210
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:36,400
of input. Uh the planning department has

2211
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,880
that some of the current development

2212
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:41,119
standards. Um there are some challenges

2213
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,800
to coming up with a site plan for tiny

2214
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:44,400
homes or cottage homes that are fully

2215
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,800
compliant with the standards that we've

2216
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:48,400
set forth. So, in an effort to make it

2217
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,520
more friendly and make things more

2218
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:56,239
flexible, um we have uh come to you with

2219
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:59,040
these amendments to the CDO. For the um

2220
01:41:56,239 --> 01:42:01,040
the purpose here, uh we did remove the

2221
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:04,080
adequate on street and or off- streetet

2222
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:06,159
parking because as of January 2027,

2223
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:08,800
minimum parking requirements will no

2224
01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:12,159
longer um be allowed in North Carolina.

2225
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:16,080
So, we are removing that from the CDO.

2226
01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:18,320
Um the NRD district currently is only in

2227
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,239
uh urban neighborhood. We've asked that

2228
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:25,520
it be changed to village center and

2229
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:29,040
mixeduse activity center um just to um

2230
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:32,000
help with there's with both of these

2231
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:34,159
land use designations you see more um

2232
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:36,400
connection to surrounding neighborhoods

2233
01:42:34,159 --> 01:42:38,239
u being more pedestrian friendly, bike

2234
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,159
friendly um neighborhood serving and

2235
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,400
there are also transit facilities. So

2236
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:44,159
for these tiny homes and cottage homes,

2237
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:46,400
um that would that would be a positive

2238
01:42:44,159 --> 01:42:48,560
for these.

2239
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,639
Uh there were a couple changes in

2240
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:52,960
definition. Essentially when we went

2241
01:42:50,639 --> 01:42:55,040
from heated floor area to gross floor

2242
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:57,440
area and that just aligns more closely

2243
01:42:55,040 --> 01:43:00,000
with other municipalities and our CDO as

2244
01:42:57,440 --> 01:43:03,520
well.

2245
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:06,080
And 9.5 which is the application

2246
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:09,119
procedure and approval process is where

2247
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:11,280
we see uh most of the changes. So we

2248
01:43:09,119 --> 01:43:16,159
removed the minimum and maximum number

2249
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:17,440
of dwellings. We have um defined maximum

2250
01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:20,000
building height a little differently.

2251
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:21,679
Not only can it be two stories like on a

2252
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,119
slab, but it could be an elevated

2253
01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:25,280
twotory so that parking can be

2254
01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:27,440
underneath. So it's just a different um

2255
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:31,199
flexibility in providing parking for

2256
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:33,440
these um neighborhoods. We decreased the

2257
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:36,400
minimum open space just again for that

2258
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:38,880
flexibility and understanding that there

2259
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,480
may not be a need for such vast amounts

2260
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,239
of open space in these smaller

2261
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:44,080
communities because they should be you

2262
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:47,199
know your more tightknit tight-knit

2263
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:50,000
communities. Um we went instead of

2264
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:52,159
buffers um perimeter plantings. So

2265
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,159
that's a 12ft average width with one

2266
01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:57,040
shade tree per 100 ft. And then there

2267
01:43:54,159 --> 01:44:00,080
won't be any additional plantings within

2268
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:01,920
um the site itself.

2269
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,480
And you can see for the most part with

2270
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:07,920
cottage homes um the same information

2271
01:44:04,480 --> 01:44:10,080
that I just noted um on the tiny homes

2272
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:13,679
um with the removal of the minimum and

2273
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:16,400
maximum number of dwellings as well as

2274
01:44:13,679 --> 01:44:18,596
um the building height and then those

2275
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:20,560
plantings.

2276
01:44:18,596 --> 01:44:23,440
[snorts]

2277
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:26,000
So going on with the application

2278
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:28,400
procedure and approval process, um we

2279
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:30,880
have clarified the types of amenities,

2280
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,080
we have um added [clears throat] that

2281
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,840
there definitely needs to be a

2282
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:36,080
pedestrian network to connect all

2283
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,639
buildings, parking and sidewalks because

2284
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:42,080
again you're you want these communities

2285
01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:44,480
to be um traversible. Uh removal of

2286
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:47,119
minimum parking requirements, common

2287
01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:49,199
open space should be accessible to all.

2288
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:52,159
Um, we've added that solid waste

2289
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:54,080
collection can now also um be done by

2290
01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:57,897
private companies

2291
01:44:54,080 --> 01:45:00,159
and fire code standards need to be met.

2292
01:44:57,897 --> 01:45:02,080
[snorts] So, that's all for the tiny

2293
01:45:00,159 --> 01:45:04,320
homes and the cottage homes with the

2294
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:07,840
incidental signs. Um, we did discuss

2295
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:10,080
this and it was just left out of um our

2296
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:13,040
the ordinance from from last month.

2297
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:15,760
Essentially, we want directory signs to

2298
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:18,159
be permissible um in CC only. This is

2299
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:20,560
one sign per exterior entrance, not

2300
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:23,040
exceeding six square ft. And this is for

2301
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:25,040
multi-tenant, multi-story buildings. And

2302
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:27,520
this will this does things like list the

2303
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:30,320
tenant, their suite number, um hours of

2304
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:32,560
operation, etc.

2305
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:34,560
So, here is your suggested statement of

2306
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:36,560
reasonleness and consistency. The top

2307
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,840
two bullet points are the ones that were

2308
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:42,480
approved by planning and zoning at their

2309
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:46,239
August meeting. And uh there is that

2310
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:48,159
denial language if if you choose that.

2311
01:45:46,239 --> 01:45:50,719
Uh so your next steps are to consider

2312
01:45:48,159 --> 01:45:52,800
the text amendments to the CDO, approve

2313
01:45:50,719 --> 01:45:55,040
or amend the statement of consistency,

2314
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,800
and approve or deny the proposed

2315
01:45:55,040 --> 01:46:00,480
proposed text amendments. And I can take

2316
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:04,199
any questions that you have.

2317
01:46:00,480 --> 01:46:04,199
» Questions for Autumn.

2318
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:05,520
» All right.

2319
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:09,360
» Thank you.

2320
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:12,480
» Thank you. Uh I do not have anyone that

2321
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:15,679
has signed up to speak uh during this

2322
01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:17,360
public hearing. Uh so we will close the

2323
01:46:15,679 --> 01:46:19,119
public hearing. [clears throat]

2324
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:22,480
And council members, what's your

2325
01:46:19,119 --> 01:46:24,480
pleasure on this item?

2326
01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:29,239
If we could get that motion back up on

2327
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:29,239
the screen, it might be helpful. Yeah.

2328
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:37,440
So, Mr. Mayor, I I make the motion that

2329
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:40,159
we do the cons statement of cons

2330
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:42,480
reasonleness and consistency, the top

2331
01:46:40,159 --> 01:46:43,920
two bullet points in blue.

2332
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:47,920
» I second.

2333
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:53,360
» Okay, we have a motion and a second uh

2334
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:56,360
in support of these changes. Uh is there

2335
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,360
discussion

2336
01:46:56,480 --> 01:47:02,080
hearing? None. All in favor of the

2337
01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:06,639
motion, please say I. All oppose, please

2338
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:08,320
say no. That motion passes. And then do

2339
01:47:06,639 --> 01:47:10,639
we have another step on this one?

2340
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:12,719
» Yes, sir. The next step is to approve or

2341
01:47:10,639 --> 01:47:16,239
deny the text amendments.

2342
01:47:12,719 --> 01:47:19,280
» Great. So, do I hear a motion to either

2343
01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:20,080
approve or deny the proposed text

2344
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,199
amendments?

2345
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,400
» Mayor,

2346
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:24,639
» Go ahead, please.

2347
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:26,880
» Mayor, make that motion to approve.

2348
01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:30,400
» I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion

2349
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:33,840
and a second to approve the proposed

2350
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:36,080
text amendments. Is there discussion?

2351
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,280
Hearing none. All in favor, please say

2352
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,560
I.

2353
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:42,080
» All oppose, please say no. That motion

2354
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:45,520
passes.

2355
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:49,520
All right. And then we will move to the

2356
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:53,520
next item three. Um, we also have a

2357
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:56,400
public hearing on that item. Let's see.

2358
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:59,119
Did I close the last public hearing? I

2359
01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:02,159
think I did. Yeah. And so I'll open the

2360
01:47:59,119 --> 01:48:06,840
public hearing and I will invite Fred to

2361
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:06,840
come up and brief us on this item.

2362
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:15,360
» Good evening, Mayor Morris, members of

2363
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:17,360
council, Mr. Payne, uh, Miss Ginsky,

2364
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,360
Miss Jenkins. Um, the item before you is

2365
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:23,040
a conditional resoning application, uh,

2366
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:26,480
case number ZCD 2325.

2367
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:28,560
Um, and this reszoning request is for a

2368
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:32,320
single parcel consisting of uh

2369
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:34,800
approximately 4.879 acres um located at

2370
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:37,520
190 George L Parkway. Um, basically the

2371
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:40,159
southeast quadrant of the George L and

2372
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:42,080
Weddington Road uh intersection. Um, and

2373
01:48:40,159 --> 01:48:45,119
the applicant for this request is TWWP

2374
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:47,360
Acquisitions LLC. Um and the request

2375
01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:49,360
again is to reszone the property from

2376
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:52,159
light commercial and office conditional

2377
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:54,400
district to general commercial um

2378
01:48:52,159 --> 01:48:58,320
conditional district to construct a a

2379
01:48:54,400 --> 01:49:00,639
5,600 ft convenience store with gas um

2380
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:04,600
as well as a 1,330

2381
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:04,600
uh square foot car wash.

2382
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,960
Staff captured some drone photos of the

2383
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:13,840
subject property. Um as you can see uh

2384
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:15,360
aptly labeled there. Look, the slide to

2385
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,119
the left is looking south toward the

2386
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,119
site with Sheffield Manor on the left

2387
01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:21,600
side of that particular slide with the

2388
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:23,920
Willow Oak development uh in the uh on

2389
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:26,080
the right side of that uh picture

2390
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,480
containing varied uh commercial uses

2391
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:31,040
including a BP Publix uh and several

2392
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:32,960
other retail uses. Um looking to the

2393
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:35,119
south, looking east toward the site is a

2394
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:38,480
picture on the right um which again

2395
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:41,639
shows those um two uses um just from a

2396
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:41,639
different angle.

2397
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:46,719
for a little bit of history on this

2398
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:49,920
parcel. Um, this parcel was annexed into

2399
01:49:46,719 --> 01:49:53,360
the city um in 1995 and when it was it

2400
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:55,760
was zoned R2 for residential uses. Um

2401
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:58,320
once the CDO was adopted uh the property

2402
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:59,760
was converted to residential village but

2403
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:02,639
prior to the construction of the George

2404
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:04,960
L Parkway in 2015 and 2016 the parcel

2405
01:50:02,639 --> 01:50:07,360
was a part of a larger property um to

2406
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:10,560
the west that which is located um which

2407
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:13,679
is labeled C2CD immediately across the L

2408
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:15,840
Parkway rightway. Um and also the land

2409
01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:17,840
use plan at the time um characterized

2410
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:20,480
the parcels as village center and

2411
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:24,159
commercial. in effect when the uh George

2412
01:50:20,480 --> 01:50:26,320
L Parkway was constructed uh it impacted

2413
01:50:24,159 --> 01:50:29,520
the development character of the areas

2414
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:31,520
nearest this newly created uh George L

2415
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:34,080
Parkway intersection with Weddington

2416
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:37,119
Road. Um the Parkway's construction

2417
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:39,280
itself by sected a large parcel uh the

2418
01:50:37,119 --> 01:50:41,920
larger parcel um that eventually was

2419
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:43,760
developed to the west as a Willow Oaks

2420
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:46,320
um commercial development with the

2421
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:48,400
public's BP and the other retail and it

2422
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:50,480
also left the remaining parcel our

2423
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,080
subject property uh to the east as

2424
01:50:50,480 --> 01:50:54,320
undeveloped.

2425
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,560
Regarding the U zoning surrounding the

2426
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:59,119
subject parcel, to the south and east

2427
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:01,760
are RC zone parcels uh that are

2428
01:50:59,119 --> 01:51:03,679
residential in nature and in use and to

2429
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,440
the north and west there are C2

2430
01:51:03,679 --> 01:51:08,159
conventional and conditional zoning

2431
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:10,800
properties uh with some RV uh

2432
01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:13,199
residential village uh as well. These

2433
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,520
parcels are um comprised of a mix of

2434
01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:18,520
commercial uses um and undeveloped

2435
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,520
areas.

2436
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,480
for additional background regarding this

2437
01:51:20,639 --> 01:51:24,639
conditional resoning application. Um

2438
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:27,360
staff has we basically created a brief

2439
01:51:24,639 --> 01:51:30,080
timeline uh of the subject property um

2440
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:33,199
and the uh detailing how we got to this

2441
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:34,800
point. Um so in November of 2023, staff

2442
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:37,360
received the initial conditional

2443
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:39,920
resoning application for the property uh

2444
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:42,400
which was proposed to be developed uh as

2445
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:44,639
various commercial and retail uses um

2446
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:47,520
including a daycare and a quickserve

2447
01:51:44,639 --> 01:51:50,239
business. Um, in December of that same

2448
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:52,480
year, uh, the DRC received and reviewed

2449
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:54,560
a sketch plan for the application. Um,

2450
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:57,040
this time it showed a child care center,

2451
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,880
a retail use, um, a drive-through

2452
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,880
restaurant, and an oil change facility

2453
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,480
on the property. So, from one month to

2454
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,440
the next, we got a little bit deeper in

2455
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:06,320
terms of more [clears throat] spec

2456
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:08,480
specificity with the um, proposed uses.

2457
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,760
Um, following that, um, the applicant,

2458
01:52:08,480 --> 01:52:12,719
uh, applied for and received a

2459
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:14,960
preliminary sewer allocation, um, for

2460
01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:19,040
those affformentioned uses in January of

2461
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:20,960
2024. Um, in November of 2025, we

2462
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:23,440
received a new conditional resoning

2463
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:27,280
application site plan, which actually

2464
01:52:23,440 --> 01:52:30,639
showed a 3,000 ft car wash and a 5,600

2465
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:33,760
foot convenience store with gas. Um,

2466
01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:35,119
fast forward to August of this year, the

2467
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:37,119
planning and zoning commission heard the

2468
01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:38,960
reasonzoning request uh for that

2469
01:52:37,119 --> 01:52:41,199
particular for this particular petition,

2470
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:44,960
which is for a 1,330

2471
01:52:41,199 --> 01:52:46,719
ft car wash and a 5600T convenience

2472
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:49,199
store with gas. Um, and they voted

2473
01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:51,280
unanimously to recommend denial uh of

2474
01:52:49,199 --> 01:52:54,280
the zoning map amendment request at that

2475
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,280
time.

2476
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,920
Um this next slide shows the site plan

2477
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,119
that was considered by the planning and

2478
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,599
zoning commission at that

2479
01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:03,520
affforementioned August meeting. Um and

2480
01:53:01,599 --> 01:53:07,440
as I mentioned previously, the applicant

2481
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:09,920
um proposes to develop a a 5,600 foot

2482
01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:12,960
car wash with uh I mean excuse me,

2483
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:16,000
convenience store with gas and a 1,330

2484
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:18,960
foot um car wash facility uh on the

2485
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:20,719
property as shown here on the site plan.

2486
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:23,280
But as you can see, the site plan um

2487
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:24,639
proposes to create three lots. Um lot

2488
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:26,719
one being the principal convenience

2489
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:28,880
store. Lot two would be a uh is

2490
01:53:26,719 --> 01:53:31,679
designated as a future and unspecified

2491
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:33,360
commercial development. And lot three is

2492
01:53:31,679 --> 01:53:35,760
labeled as a storm water management

2493
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:37,920
area. And the proposed development will

2494
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:40,480
have vehicular access off of George Law

2495
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:43,199
Parkway as well as Weddington Road via

2496
01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:46,320
two separate right in right out um

2497
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:48,320
driveways um which were recommended um

2498
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:50,560
by the applicant's traffic impact

2499
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:52,480
analysis as well as reviewed and

2500
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:55,280
approved by city transportation at NC

2501
01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:57,280
DOT. Um this site plan additionally was

2502
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:59,840
recommended for denial by planning and

2503
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:02,159
zoning. Um, and it actually showed a

2504
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:04,159
20ft type C buffer along the western

2505
01:54:02,159 --> 01:54:06,159
property boundary, basically where the

2506
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:09,520
parcel, the subject property abuts the

2507
01:54:06,159 --> 01:54:13,560
RC and RV residential village properties

2508
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:13,560
um of Sheffield Manor.

2509
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:20,159
Uh, this slide shows an actual revised

2510
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:23,040
site plan that was presented um that was

2511
01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:24,400
u submitted by the applicant um to

2512
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,760
address the concerns that were brought

2513
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,360
forward at the planning and zoning

2514
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,760
commission meeting. Um the most

2515
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:32,159
significant revisions to um this site

2516
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:34,639
plan are uh that the applicant's now

2517
01:54:32,159 --> 01:54:36,960
proposing to increase the buffer yard

2518
01:54:34,639 --> 01:54:40,239
between the proposed used and Sheffield

2519
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:41,920
Manor uh from 20 ft to 30 ft. Um and

2520
01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:44,800
that the applicant is also proposing to

2521
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:46,880
install a 10-ft high masonry wall along

2522
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:49,440
the western edge of the drive aisle

2523
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:51,599
nearest the subdivision. Um it should be

2524
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:54,320
noted that these proposed changes have

2525
01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:58,080
not been reviewed by DRC for adherence

2526
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:58,080
to uh CDO standards.

2527
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,599
U this slide is just a colorized

2528
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:05,920
rendering of the applicant's preliminary

2529
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:07,440
uh landscape plan uh that they first

2530
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:09,440
introduced at last month's planning and

2531
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:12,480
zoning commission meeting. Uh we didn't

2532
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:14,639
want to leave you guys out in that.

2533
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:16,880
Uh but in regards to the 2030 land use

2534
01:55:14,639 --> 01:55:18,080
plan, um the land use plan characterizes

2535
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:20,800
the subject property as urban

2536
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:22,639
neighborhood. Um and the requested C2

2537
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:24,320
general commercial conditional district

2538
01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:26,639
uh is not a corresponding zoning

2539
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:29,440
classification. Therefore, a land use

2540
01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:32,000
plan amendment will be required.

2541
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:34,159
The sub property is located um adjacent

2542
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:36,400
to a large commercially designated area.

2543
01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:38,800
However, um the Willow Oaks development

2544
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:41,440
to the west um and as defined by the

2545
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,199
2030 land use plan um and if approved,

2546
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,760
staff would recommend that the land use

2547
01:55:43,199 --> 01:55:48,080
category be amended to commercial um as

2548
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:50,239
C2CD is a corresponding zoning

2549
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:53,239
classification within that land use

2550
01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:53,239
category.

2551
01:55:54,719 --> 01:55:59,440
Uh, as with all resonings, and pursuant

2552
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,719
to the CDO, the applicant um notified

2553
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:03,199
formally recognized neighborhood

2554
01:56:00,719 --> 01:56:04,480
organizations as well as HOAs within a

2555
01:56:03,199 --> 01:56:06,800
half mile radius of the subject

2556
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:09,040
property, as shown here on this map. Uh,

2557
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:11,280
council also should be advised that the

2558
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:13,679
applicant did conduct a virtual um

2559
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:16,320
community meeting on August the 3rd um

2560
01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:18,320
of this year at 6 PM um and also

2561
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:20,480
provided staff with a transcript of that

2562
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:22,719
meeting. Additionally, planning staff

2563
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:25,119
notified adjacent property owners and

2564
01:56:22,719 --> 01:56:28,960
recognized neighborhoods and APOs uh and

2565
01:56:25,119 --> 01:56:30,639
HOAs with um APO letters as well as uh

2566
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:32,480
newspaper advertisements for both the

2567
01:56:30,639 --> 01:56:35,119
planning and zoning commission meeting

2568
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:37,840
um as well as for this council meeting

2569
01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:40,239
um as most recently as letters dated

2570
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:42,480
August the 24th uh with ad runs of

2571
01:56:40,239 --> 01:56:46,440
August 29th and September the 5th for

2572
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:46,440
this particular meeting tonight.

2573
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,800
Um, council can see this suggest a

2574
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:54,400
statement of consistencies here on the

2575
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:56,480
screen. Um, the one on the left is if

2576
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:59,119
council supports approval of the

2577
01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:02,159
application um or on the right

2578
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:04,239
supporting denial, which was uh the the

2579
01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:06,639
the attack of the uh planning and zoning

2580
01:57:04,239 --> 01:57:08,960
commission. Um,

2581
01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:10,800
as with uh all resoning map amendment

2582
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:13,599
applications, planning staff uh presents

2583
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:18,159
both approval and denial language uh for

2584
01:57:13,599 --> 01:57:20,639
council's consideration uh and adoption.

2585
01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:22,000
In regards to the um suggested u

2586
01:57:20,639 --> 01:57:23,920
conditions, staff recommends the

2587
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,199
following conditions. Um and these

2588
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,199
conditions have been shared with the

2589
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:29,840
applicant. I'll hit them in brief.

2590
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:33,040
Compliance with the TWWP Concord retail

2591
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:35,119
site plan dated 82526.

2592
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:37,119
Um the applicant has been notified that

2593
01:57:35,119 --> 01:57:39,016
any sign permits will be um permitted

2594
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:40,960
separately um per article

2595
01:57:39,016 --> 01:57:43,040
[clears throat] 12 of the CDO. Um any

2596
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:46,960
building materials and elevations will

2597
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:49,360
um meet uh article standard 7.10 divine

2598
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:52,320
design standards of the CDO uh at the

2599
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:55,679
construction review level. Um a dumpster

2600
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:59,119
detail uh shall be shown uh and shall be

2601
01:57:55,679 --> 01:58:01,679
installed pursuant to 8.3.6c of the CDO

2602
01:57:59,119 --> 01:58:03,280
during construction plan review. Um,

2603
01:58:01,679 --> 01:58:05,360
additionally, um, although a preliminary

2604
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,800
sewer allocation was granted, uh, the

2605
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,880
scope of the site development and the

2606
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:11,360
resoning does not correspond with what

2607
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:13,199
that which was previously approved. Um,

2608
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:15,199
so therefore, a new preliminary sewer

2609
01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:17,520
allocation application request may be

2610
01:58:15,199 --> 01:58:20,320
requested um, per the adopted sewer

2611
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:22,800
policy. Uh, items conditions six and

2612
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:24,239
seven were recent ads. Again, these were

2613
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,520
um, conditions that were added to

2614
01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:27,360
address some of the concerns that were

2615
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,119
brought forth in planning and zoning. Um

2616
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,719
the applicant shall provide a 30-foot

2617
01:58:29,119 --> 01:58:32,159
undisturbed buffer along the eastern

2618
01:58:30,719 --> 01:58:33,520
property line where adjacent to the

2619
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:36,080
residentially zoned or developed

2620
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:37,760
parcels. Um and this doesn't include the

2621
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:40,239
storm water management area or the

2622
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:44,880
service um company parcel which is a

2623
01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:48,880
little gas outlier um uh I want to say

2624
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:50,719
on um Weddington there. Um but a 20ft uh

2625
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,719
uninstalled buffer shall be provided

2626
01:58:50,719 --> 01:58:54,880
there. Um, additionally, the applicant

2627
01:58:52,719 --> 01:58:56,480
shall provide a 10-ft masonry screen

2628
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,159
wall alongside the driveway of the

2629
01:58:56,480 --> 01:59:00,719
property to be developed as the

2630
01:58:58,159 --> 01:59:03,360
convenience store. And as with most

2631
01:59:00,719 --> 01:59:05,360
conditional resonings, art um conditions

2632
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,880
eight and nine are standard fair

2633
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:09,280
regarding technical site plan review

2634
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:11,040
that would be required. Um, and approval

2635
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:13,040
by all any local, state, and federal

2636
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:15,520
agencies. Uh, additionally, any future

2637
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:17,119
modifications or additions would require

2638
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:19,360
um further approval by planning and

2639
01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:21,199
zoning commission.

2640
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,639
I think I made it through and I'll

2641
01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:23,440
gladly take any questions that council

2642
01:59:22,639 --> 01:59:26,400
may have at this time.

2643
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:29,040
» Thank you. Any questions for Fred before

2644
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,760
we hear from uh the proponents and

2645
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,719
opponents?

2646
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:37,040
» Oh, no. You know what?

2647
01:59:32,719 --> 01:59:39,679
» Great. Thank you. Okay, we have only one

2648
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:42,960
proponent that has signed up to speak

2649
01:59:39,679 --> 01:59:43,440
and I think that's John Mack.

2650
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:46,440
» Monk.

2651
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,440
» Yep.

2652
01:59:46,742 --> 01:59:48,762
» [clears throat]

2653
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,000
» Uh, good evening mayor and members of

2654
01:59:50,639 --> 01:59:53,599
council. My name is John Mock and I'm

2655
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:55,360
here on behalf of Track West Partners,

2656
01:59:53,599 --> 01:59:56,800
the developer for this project. Thank

2657
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,760
you for your time tonight. It's been a

2658
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,119
pleasure getting to know some of you

2659
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,719
over the last several weeks and I really

2660
01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:02,000
appreciate I hope you all were to

2661
02:00:00,719 --> 02:00:03,840
hearing our plans and the improvements

2662
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:05,360
we made working on we've been working on

2663
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:07,679
to make this a project worth your

2664
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:10,639
support. I'm here to request a reszone

2665
02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:13,840
of the 4.8 acres at 190 George W. allows

2666
02:00:10,639 --> 02:00:16,719
Parkway from C1 CD to C2 CD conditional

2667
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:18,239
district to allow a 5600 ft dash and

2668
02:00:16,719 --> 02:00:21,119
convenience store with the fuel canopy

2669
02:00:18,239 --> 02:00:22,320
and a300 foot splashing car wash. The

2670
02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:24,080
planning and zoning commission heard

2671
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:26,320
this case on August 18th and recommended

2672
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:27,679
denial on an advisory basis. Being

2673
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:28,960
completely honest, after attending the

2674
02:00:27,679 --> 02:00:30,560
planning and zoning meeting, I'm not

2675
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,159
surprised the board recommended denial.

2676
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,679
We were caught flatfooted. We weren't

2677
02:00:32,159 --> 02:00:35,360
expecting the depth of feedback we heard

2678
02:00:33,679 --> 02:00:36,960
from the neighbors. We weren't ready to

2679
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,800
provide concrete solutions that we could

2680
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:40,480
stand behind during that meeting. What

2681
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:42,080
I'm about to present today is what I

2682
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:43,679
believe solutions to all the comments we

2683
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:45,040
heard. Everything I'm going to walk you

2684
02:00:43,679 --> 02:00:46,639
through tonight is our direct response

2685
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:48,159
to what was raised at that hearing, what

2686
02:00:46,639 --> 02:00:49,679
we've improved, what we've committed to

2687
02:00:48,159 --> 02:00:53,239
in writing, and why I believe this plan

2688
02:00:49,679 --> 02:00:53,239
deserves your approval.

2689
02:00:56,639 --> 02:01:00,360
Hit the next slide there.

2690
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,320
I'll do that.

2691
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:13,719
Set the arrow button. It's not working.

2692
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:23,083
Before [clears throat]

2693
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,520
we get into the plan itself, I want to

2694
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,960
be clear about where we stand right now.

2695
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,400
We held a community meeting on August

2696
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:42,480
3rd. Planning and zoning heard the case

2697
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:44,159
on August 18th and recommend a

2698
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,920
recommendation is advisory. Tonight,

2699
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:48,159
council makes the bonding decision

2700
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:49,599
decision on this project. Since that

2701
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:50,960
hearing, we haven't stood still. The

2702
02:01:49,599 --> 02:01:54,000
masonry wall has been drawn into the

2703
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:55,599
plan 10 10 ft tall, 400 ft of brick. The

2704
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:57,360
landscape plan has been sealed with a 90

2705
02:01:55,599 --> 02:01:58,960
foot buffer, 30 ft of which is an

2706
02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,960
established and mature tree line. And

2707
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:03,199
the phototric plan is complete, showing

2708
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,960
0.0 foot candles at the rear property

2709
02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:06,400
line. That means our project won't have

2710
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:08,239
any lights spilling onto the neighboring

2711
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,679
properties. Council's two actions in

2712
02:02:08,239 --> 02:02:11,520
front of it tonight. First, to amend the

2713
02:02:09,679 --> 02:02:12,880
2030 land use plan designation on this

2714
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:14,400
parcel from urban neighborhood to

2715
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:20,080
commercial, and second to approve the

2716
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:22,080
resoning itself from C1 CD to C2 CD.

2717
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:24,000
So what is exactly being proposed? The

2718
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:25,679
4.8 acres at the southeast quadrant of

2719
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:28,719
George Lyles Parkway and Wington Road,

2720
02:02:25,679 --> 02:02:31,040
Bacon's L Parkway was built in 2015. The

2721
02:02:28,719 --> 02:02:33,679
plan is a 5600T convenience store with

2722
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:35,920
the fuel canopy and a 1300 foot bay car

2723
02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:38,000
wash on three lots. The first lot is the

2724
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:39,920
dashin parcel. The second is a future

2725
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:42,400
commercial lot and then a lot entirely

2726
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,679
dedicated to storm water. For the future

2727
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,199
commercial lot, we are in deep

2728
02:02:43,679 --> 02:02:47,040
discussions with the local credit union

2729
02:02:45,199 --> 02:02:48,400
to open a branch on that parcel. I do

2730
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:49,840
want to note that any plan for that

2731
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,599
parcel will need to come back in front

2732
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:53,199
of council for your approval. So voting

2733
02:02:51,599 --> 02:02:54,880
yes for the dash in tonight does not

2734
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:56,320
give us any approval to develop the

2735
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:58,719
second parcel without your review and

2736
02:02:56,320 --> 02:03:00,480
approval at a later date. Access in the

2737
02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:02,400
site is right in right out only on L

2738
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:04,239
Parkway on Weddington's right in right

2739
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:06,320
out and left in. No left turnout in

2740
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:07,840
either direction in any point. And where

2741
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:09,280
this site touches residential zoning to

2742
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,920
the rear, we're providing a type-C

2743
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:13,760
buffer 30 ft completely undisturbed and

2744
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:16,000
over 90 ft total which I'll walk through

2745
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:17,520
in detail in a few minutes. What we're

2746
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:20,480
asking for is a straightforward resone

2747
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,840
from C1CD like commercial office to C2CD

2748
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:24,840
general commercial as a conditional

2749
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:24,840
district.

2750
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,159
I think it helps to see what exact what

2751
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:30,480
what's actually around this corner

2752
02:03:28,159 --> 02:03:33,280
today. To the west across George W. Laws

2753
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,800
Parkway is C2CD. That's Publix and

2754
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:37,119
operating BP convenience store gas

2755
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:38,960
station and other retail. To the north

2756
02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:41,360
to the north across Weddington Road is

2757
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:42,880
currently zone C2. To the south is

2758
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:44,480
Sheffield Manor and to the east is more

2759
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:46,239
residential along with Weddington Hills

2760
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:48,480
Elementary and West Cabaras High further

2761
02:03:46,239 --> 02:03:50,159
out to the point of the the point of the

2762
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:52,159
slide is simple. Two of the site's four

2763
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:54,080
boundaries are arterial rights away. The

2764
02:03:52,159 --> 02:03:55,679
third boundary is already C2 commercial.

2765
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:57,599
The corner sits inside the same

2766
02:03:55,679 --> 02:03:59,520
commercial node as the grocery center

2767
02:03:57,599 --> 02:04:00,719
and operating gas station. We are not

2768
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:02,080
introducing a new use to this

2769
02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:05,960
intersection. We're just completing the

2770
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:05,960
intersection with the same uses.

2771
02:04:07,119 --> 02:04:11,520
Here's why we're in front of you asking

2772
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:12,800
for C2 CD specifically. C1 CD the site's

2773
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,400
current zoning does not permit a

2774
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:16,960
convenience store with fuel sales or car

2775
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:19,520
wash. C2CD is the district that allows

2776
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:21,199
both. This is a conditional district

2777
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,480
which matters. It means only the uses

2778
02:04:21,199 --> 02:04:24,080
and structures shown in our approved

2779
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:25,199
site plan can be built there. This

2780
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,960
property will be bound to those

2781
02:04:25,199 --> 02:04:28,639
conditions permanently. We've offered

2782
02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:30,159
several conditions voluntarily on top of

2783
02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:31,440
the condition staff has recommended and

2784
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:32,719
the development review committee has

2785
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:34,719
reviewed this plan and recorded no

2786
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:35,760
objections to the petition. I also want

2787
02:04:34,719 --> 02:04:37,280
to walk through the zoning history

2788
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:39,360
because I think it matters for tonight's

2789
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:41,520
decision. The parcel was annexed into

2790
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:44,560
the city in December of 95. In October

2791
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:46,080
of 2015, it was reszoned to C1CD for a

2792
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:48,239
36,100

2793
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:50,719
ft legal grocery store, who is still the

2794
02:04:48,239 --> 02:04:52,960
current owner of this property. In 23, a

2795
02:04:50,719 --> 02:04:54,639
mixeduse case, a mixed commercial case

2796
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:57,760
was submitted, but later voided. And

2797
02:04:54,639 --> 02:04:59,520
today, we're asking for C2CD for a 5600T

2798
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:01,840
convenience store and a 1300 foot car

2799
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:03,840
wash. The reason that matters, that

2800
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:06,080
parcel has been zoned and approved for

2801
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:07,199
commercial development since 2015. The

2802
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,480
question in front of council tonight

2803
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:10,400
isn't whether this corner becomes

2804
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:12,239
commercial. It already is. The question

2805
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:14,480
is which commercial use and under which

2806
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:16,159
what conditions and protections. I make

2807
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:18,400
that distinction because this property

2808
02:05:16,159 --> 02:05:22,679
is this property being developed isn't a

2809
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:22,679
question of if. It's a question of when.

2810
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:26,000
I want to address the land use plan

2811
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:27,840
question directly because staff's report

2812
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,520
is honest about it and so are we. The

2813
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:32,320
site is designated urban neighborhood on

2814
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,520
the 2030 land use plan. C2CD isn't a

2815
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:35,599
corresponding district under that

2816
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:37,440
designation. So staff finds that reason

2817
02:05:35,599 --> 02:05:39,199
request inconsistent with the plan as

2818
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,400
currently written. That's exactly why an

2819
02:05:39,199 --> 02:05:42,239
amendment to commercial is part of

2820
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,679
tonight's action. But I'd also ask you

2821
02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:45,360
to look at what staff's own suggested

2822
02:05:43,679 --> 02:05:47,520
finding says because it's not neutral on

2823
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,280
the merits. It says the amendment, and I

2824
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:51,040
quote, is reasonable and in the public

2825
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,800
interest as it is consistent with the

2826
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:54,080
existing zoning to the north and west

2827
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,360
and would be an extension of the

2828
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:57,520
neighborhood commercial development

2829
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:59,840
pattern at the George Laws Parkway

2830
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:01,760
intersection. And the plan itself

2831
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:04,000
anticipates exactly this kind of site.

2832
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:06,239
It says lots let this intersection of

2833
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:08,159
lots at intersections of collector and

2834
02:06:06,239 --> 02:06:09,599
arterial streets within or at the edges

2835
02:06:08,159 --> 02:06:11,520
of urban neighborhoods may support

2836
02:06:09,599 --> 02:06:13,520
neighborhood and community serving

2837
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:14,960
commercial uses. That's a precise

2838
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,320
description of this corner. An

2839
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:19,199
intersection at the edge edge of a

2840
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:21,280
neighborhood directly adjacent to CU C2

2841
02:06:19,199 --> 02:06:24,280
CD and C2 commercial to the west and

2842
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:24,280
north.

2843
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,960
I want to [clears throat] spend a few

2844
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:28,159
moments on the process because I think

2845
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:30,159
it shapes how you should weigh

2846
02:06:28,159 --> 02:06:32,320
everything else tonight. Planning and

2847
02:06:30,159 --> 02:06:33,760
zoning advises advises, but council

2848
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:35,360
decides. You're not bound by the

2849
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:36,960
recommendation. I heard the question

2850
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:38,800
asked on Tuesday afternoon during the

2851
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:40,400
workshop meeting on why this was still

2852
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:41,920
being presented tonight. The reason is

2853
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,679
we are presenting a much improved plan

2854
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,880
with concrete solutions versus what was

2855
02:06:43,679 --> 02:06:46,960
presented to the planning and zoning

2856
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:48,320
board a few weeks ago. The development

2857
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,920
ordinance asks you to adopt two

2858
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:51,440
statements. Whether the amendment is

2859
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,719
consistent with the adopted plan and

2860
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:54,639
whether it's reasonable and in the

2861
02:06:52,719 --> 02:06:56,639
public interest. And critically,

2862
02:06:54,639 --> 02:06:59,199
inconsistency with the current land use

2863
02:06:56,639 --> 02:07:00,480
plan is not disqualifying. Council may

2864
02:06:59,199 --> 02:07:02,560
approve the amendment and the reasoning

2865
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:04,079
in the same act action which is exactly

2866
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:06,239
the path we're asking for you to take

2867
02:07:04,079 --> 02:07:07,520
tonight. I note again staff drafted the

2868
02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:09,040
finding that supports approval. The

2869
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:10,480
development review committee recorded no

2870
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:11,920
objections. What's actually in front of

2871
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,440
you is the land use plan amendment which

2872
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:14,960
is squarely within council's authority

2873
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:18,599
and the conditions that will govern how

2874
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:18,599
this site gets built.

2875
02:07:20,079 --> 02:07:23,360
This is our current site plan. It was

2876
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:25,520
prepared by engineer. It shows the 4.8

2877
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:28,000
acres across the three lots. The dashing

2878
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:29,360
itself is 2.58 acres. The future

2879
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:30,960
commercial lot which would have to come

2880
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:34,159
back for approval at a later date is

2881
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:36,159
1.08 acres and the 61 acre lot is purely

2882
02:07:34,159 --> 02:07:37,679
for commercial. This is the sheet bound

2883
02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:41,520
by condition one and whatever gets built

2884
02:07:37,679 --> 02:07:43,599
here has to match what's on this page.

2885
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:46,800
This is an elevation of the of the store

2886
02:07:43,599 --> 02:07:49,280
that we are proposing to build. Um the

2887
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:53,480
store itself is 5600 ft standing about

2888
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:53,480
18 ft 10 in to the parapit.

2889
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:57,679
Here are the elevations for the car

2890
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:59,280
wash. On the left is the entrance which

2891
02:07:57,679 --> 02:08:01,280
faces toward the property line. On the

2892
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,760
right is the long side elevation. The

2893
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:05,599
building is 17 ft 6 in overall and the

2894
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:08,320
entrance end is screened by the 10-ft

2895
02:08:05,599 --> 02:08:10,079
masonry wall running 400 ft across the

2896
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:13,400
property. The neighbors views will stop

2897
02:08:10,079 --> 02:08:13,400
at the wall.

2898
02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:16,480
I don't want to ask council to take

2899
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,239
these elevations on faith. So this slide

2900
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:19,840
is photographs, not renderings of a dash

2901
02:08:18,239 --> 02:08:21,679
and splash and store already built and

2902
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:23,520
operating to the same prototype. The

2903
02:08:21,679 --> 02:08:24,960
fuel canopy, the storefront glazing, the

2904
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,719
materials, the lighting standard. This

2905
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:28,239
isn't a concept. It's a store that

2906
02:08:26,719 --> 02:08:30,320
exists today and it's the same design

2907
02:08:28,239 --> 02:08:31,760
proposed for George W. Law's Parkway. I

2908
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:33,360
know several of you took the time to

2909
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:34,639
visit the existing dash on Vine Haven

2910
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:37,760
and I truly appreciate you guys taking

2911
02:08:34,639 --> 02:08:39,679
the time to do that.

2912
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,960
This is what's inside the store. It's a

2913
02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:42,639
fully staffed food and beverage

2914
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,159
operation. A made to order kitchen,

2915
02:08:42,639 --> 02:08:46,079
packaged grocery, frozen and dairy

2916
02:08:44,159 --> 02:08:47,520
cases, and a full beverage program.

2917
02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:49,199
Fueling positions sit outside the

2918
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:50,880
building. Inside, this functions as a

2919
02:08:49,199 --> 02:08:55,159
neighborhood convenience market. This is

2920
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:55,159
the store type we're proposing here.

2921
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:59,040
I'd point out specifically that food

2922
02:08:57,280 --> 02:09:00,880
here is prepared on site by the store

2923
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:03,199
employees. It's a fully staffed kitchen

2924
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:04,639
line, a bakery case, daily produce prep.

2925
02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:06,320
The kitchen runs during store hours

2926
02:09:04,639 --> 02:09:07,520
along the retail floor. That's what

2927
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,199
separates this from a conventional

2928
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:11,360
fueling station with prepackaged goods

2929
02:09:09,199 --> 02:09:13,440
on a shelf. This is closer to a small

2930
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:15,440
grocery with fuel service than a typical

2931
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:17,199
gas station. This is not a food pro

2932
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,560
program you'll find at the traditional

2933
02:09:17,199 --> 02:09:20,320
convenience stores that are currently in

2934
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:22,400
the market. Dashing has built its

2935
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:24,639
reputation on fresh, highquality food

2936
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:26,239
and ingredients. For example, the eggs

2937
02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:28,079
are cracked fresh, not poured from a

2938
02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:29,520
carton. Prepared food doesn't sit for

2939
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:33,639
hours under heat lamps. And the baked

2940
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,639
goods and chips are made in house.

2941
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,800
Now, I want to walk you through the

2942
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,320
buffer in detail because this is the

2943
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:39,760
single biggest thing that changed as a

2944
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:41,280
direct result of what we heard from the

2945
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:43,280
neighbors. The ordinance minimum for a

2946
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:44,639
type-C buffer here is 20 ft. We

2947
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:46,159
originally committed to 30 ft

2948
02:09:44,639 --> 02:09:48,159
undisturbed with the existing tree line

2949
02:09:46,159 --> 02:09:49,840
left standing. Tonight we're offering 90

2950
02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:51,920
feet total in the dash and parcel

2951
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:54,719
undisturbed plus planted plus the 10-

2952
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:56,560
foot masonry wall. That wall is 10 feet

2953
02:09:54,719 --> 02:09:58,000
of brick, 400 feet long drawn onto the

2954
02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:59,520
plant. It won't be an option that we

2955
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:01,280
might exercise later, but a commitment

2956
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:02,639
on the record. And it's not placed at

2957
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,320
the outer edge of the buffer for show.

2958
02:10:02,639 --> 02:10:05,840
It's set at the drive where it actually

2959
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:07,119
blocks headlights, which is the point

2960
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:10,079
some of the neighbors raised during the

2961
02:10:07,119 --> 02:10:12,639
last meeting. The landscape plan adds 54

2962
02:10:10,079 --> 02:10:14,719
red cedars. They're 10 ft tall, planted

2963
02:10:12,639 --> 02:10:16,239
15 feet on center. Cedar and holly are

2964
02:10:14,719 --> 02:10:17,920
both evergreen. So this green holds

2965
02:10:16,239 --> 02:10:19,920
throughout the winter when a deciduous

2966
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:21,440
buffer would go bare. Currently the the

2967
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:22,639
trees out there go bare. And one of the

2968
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:24,079
complaints we heard during the last

2969
02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:25,760
meeting was that during the winter time

2970
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:27,199
you can see straight to the Publix. This

2971
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:29,199
is a solution that would end that and

2972
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:33,239
we'd have the continuously blocked view

2973
02:10:29,199 --> 02:10:33,239
for for the neighborhood in the rear.

2974
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:38,719
Here's the revised landscape plan

2975
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:40,960
itself. You can see we've added the the

2976
02:10:38,719 --> 02:10:43,119
red cedars in the rear to really buffer

2977
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:44,719
the uh the view from the neighbors. And

2978
02:10:43,119 --> 02:10:47,719
we have also added the 10-ft masonry

2979
02:10:44,719 --> 02:10:47,719
wall.

2980
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:54,159
This is just the data sheet that goes

2981
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:55,920
with the with the landscape sheet.

2982
02:10:54,159 --> 02:10:56,960
Lighting was one of the top concerns we

2983
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,639
heard. So I want to go through this

2984
02:10:56,960 --> 02:11:00,159
carefully. This is the phototric plan

2985
02:10:58,639 --> 02:11:01,840
that was prepared by Red Leonard and

2986
02:11:00,159 --> 02:11:04,320
Associates. The number that matters

2987
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:06,000
most, 0.0 foot candles minimum beyond

2988
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:07,440
the paved area. That's the light level

2989
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,280
at the property line where it borders

2990
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:11,360
the homes. Average across that zone is

2991
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:14,079
essentially imperceptible. We're using

2992
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:15,920
111 LED luminires, all with zero uplight

2993
02:11:14,079 --> 02:11:17,599
Bug rating on every single pole and

2994
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:19,360
canopy fixture, meaning none of this

2995
02:11:17,599 --> 02:11:21,280
light throws upward or outward pass

2996
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:22,800
where it's needed. 18 of those fixtures

2997
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:24,719
use house side shielding aimed

2998
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:26,800
specifically away from Sheffield Manor.

2999
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:28,320
Pole height is 17 ft, canopy fixtures

3000
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,880
are mounted at 15 ft, and the wall

3001
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:32,880
fixtures at 8 to 10 ft. The blue on this

3002
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:34,400
map means zero foot candles. That's the

3003
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:36,719
reading at the property line adjacent to

3004
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:38,079
the homes. This was all calculated

3005
02:11:36,719 --> 02:11:39,679
before accounting for the additional

3006
02:11:38,079 --> 02:11:40,960
evergreen plantings and masonry wall.

3007
02:11:39,679 --> 02:11:41,920
So, I can confidently say that our

3008
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:45,800
project will not have any light

3009
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:45,800
intrusion onto the neighborhood.

3010
02:11:46,079 --> 02:11:50,159
Our traffic impact analysis was prepared

3011
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:51,520
by DRMP. They're a third party traffic

3012
02:11:50,159 --> 02:11:53,840
engineering firm and reviewed and

3013
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:55,679
accepted by NC DOT on March 20th of this

3014
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:57,920
year. This site, according to their

3015
02:11:55,679 --> 02:12:00,320
study, will only add 111 trips in the

3016
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:01,920
morning peak and 121 in the evening peak

3017
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:04,480
after internal capture and pass by

3018
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:06,079
reductions are applied. That's only 3.1%

3019
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,840
of the total volume that's currently

3020
02:12:06,079 --> 02:12:09,520
moving through the George L and Wington

3021
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:11,119
signal. So, our development is not going

3022
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,800
to add any meaningful additional traffic

3023
02:12:11,119 --> 02:12:14,000
to this intersection. This is a

3024
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:16,880
convenience store. It's not a

3025
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:18,480
destination.

3026
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,840
Again, this study was done by a third

3027
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:21,840
party traffic engineer and it was

3028
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:23,440
reviewed and approved by NC DOT. This is

3029
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:25,599
not our gut feeling. This was done by

3030
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:29,079
actual data and actual engineers who

3031
02:12:25,599 --> 02:12:29,079
know what they're doing.

3032
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:33,520
On access, George L Parkway is right in,

3033
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:35,119
right out only. Weddington is right in,

3034
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:36,639
right out and left in. No left out in

3035
02:12:35,119 --> 02:12:38,400
either direction. And we are building

3036
02:12:36,639 --> 02:12:39,840
this at our own cost. a concrete median

3037
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:41,599
on Weddington that physically prevents

3038
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:42,960
the left out of the site, a right turn

3039
02:12:41,599 --> 02:12:44,880
lane and a left turn lane with a

3040
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:46,880
dedicated storage, a 5-ft sidewalk on

3041
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:48,719
George Lyles, a shared use path on

3042
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:51,440
Weddington, and a pedestrian connection

3043
02:12:48,719 --> 02:12:53,119
toward Weddington Hills Elementary. NCD

3044
02:12:51,440 --> 02:12:55,371
is not requiring us to make any kind of

3045
02:12:53,119 --> 02:12:56,800
signal improvements with our plan.

3046
02:12:55,371 --> 02:12:58,239
[snorts] I also want to point out a

3047
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:00,000
number that came up during the last

3048
02:12:58,239 --> 02:13:01,760
meeting. Uh there was a question on how

3049
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:03,760
far our property is to the entrance to

3050
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:06,719
Sheffield. Uh we went ahead and measured

3051
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:08,159
on the GIS map and it says our the rear

3052
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:09,920
property line, not the entrance we're

3053
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:12,239
proposing, but the rear property line is

3054
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:16,119
621 ft from Stone Hedge Lane, which is

3055
02:13:12,239 --> 02:13:16,119
the Sheffield's main entrance.

3056
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:21,440
On storm water, what we can commit to

3057
02:13:19,679 --> 02:13:22,719
tonight is no storm water runoff will be

3058
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:24,320
directed to the residential properties

3059
02:13:22,719 --> 02:13:26,159
at the rear. All site drainage is

3060
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:28,320
captured on site and routed to the lot 3

3061
02:13:26,159 --> 02:13:30,000
storm water facility. Post-development

3062
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:32,000
flows will not exceed pre-development

3063
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:35,840
rates as required by both the city and

3064
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:37,599
NCDQ. Lot three is 61 acres is reserved

3065
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:38,960
entirely for storm water and cannot be

3066
02:13:37,599 --> 02:13:41,760
developed for anything else under this

3067
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:43,280
petition. The final pond design storm

3068
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:44,880
design detention volume and discharge

3069
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:46,639
point gets set through the city storm

3070
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:48,239
water permit review. Not here at

3071
02:13:46,639 --> 02:13:50,159
resoning, but nothing gets built here

3072
02:13:48,239 --> 02:13:52,079
until the city and every outside agency

3073
02:13:50,159 --> 02:13:56,280
signs off. Approval tonight does not

3074
02:13:52,079 --> 02:13:56,280
wave a single engineering standard.

3075
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:59,760
I want to spend some real time on the

3076
02:13:58,239 --> 02:14:01,199
fuel safe because it's a fair question

3077
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:03,440
to ask about any site with underground

3078
02:14:01,199 --> 02:14:05,440
storage tanks. This system is inspected

3079
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:07,760
in full by a third party consultant

3080
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:09,360
every 30 days. EPA only requires that

3081
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:11,760
inspection once a year. We're doing it

3082
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:13,119
monthly. Every tank is doublewalled with

3083
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:14,800
leak monitors in the space between the

3084
02:14:13,119 --> 02:14:16,239
inner and outer walls. There are sumps

3085
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:18,159
with leak sensors at every critical

3086
02:14:16,239 --> 02:14:19,679
piping joint and elbow. So the leaks get

3087
02:14:18,159 --> 02:14:21,520
caught at the connection points, not

3088
02:14:19,679 --> 02:14:22,960
just at the tank itself. It's a pressure

3089
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:24,719
line leak detection system and it

3090
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:27,119
constantly monitors any change in fuel

3091
02:14:24,719 --> 02:14:28,719
line pressure. monitoring. Monitoring is

3092
02:14:27,119 --> 02:14:30,239
continuous and not periodic. And the

3093
02:14:28,719 --> 02:14:32,880
system watches line pressure, tank

3094
02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:34,800
space, piping, sumps at all times. On

3095
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:36,800
top of that, with the 30-day inspection,

3096
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:38,960
if a sensor trips, the alarm goes to two

3097
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:40,719
places simultaneously. One, at the local

3098
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:42,400
store where it operates, and two at the

3099
02:14:40,719 --> 02:14:44,960
Wills Group headquarters in Llata,

3100
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:46,880
Maryland. Another question was about air

3101
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:49,119
quality. Air quality is managed through

3102
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:50,719
vapor recovery. Fuel vapor is recaptured

3103
02:14:49,119 --> 02:14:52,880
at the pump and recondensed back into

3104
02:14:50,719 --> 02:14:54,960
the tanks. These are sealed tanks, not

3105
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:57,119
open containers. It's the same concept

3106
02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:58,800
your own car uses and it's why a car

3107
02:14:57,119 --> 02:15:00,400
sitting in a closed garage with 15

3108
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:02,880
gallons of gasoline in it doesn't fill

3109
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:04,639
the garage with fumes. None of this is

3110
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:07,280
waved by reszoning. Fuel systems are

3111
02:15:04,639 --> 02:15:08,880
regulated independently by EPA and NCDQ.

3112
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:10,719
And this standard of monitoring applies

3113
02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:13,119
every single day this store is open, not

3114
02:15:10,719 --> 02:15:14,719
just at approval.

3115
02:15:13,119 --> 02:15:16,880
On operations, the store and fuel and

3116
02:15:14,719 --> 02:15:19,199
car wash operate 24/7, but deliveries

3117
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:21,440
and service will be restricted by time.

3118
02:15:19,199 --> 02:15:23,760
Fender deliveries only between 7 am and

3119
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:25,599
800 pm. Trash pickup only between 7 am

3120
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:27,119
and 800 p.m. And fuel deliveries only

3121
02:15:25,599 --> 02:15:29,360
from the front of the site, never at the

3122
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:30,800
rear. For staffing, the kitchen the

3123
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:32,320
kitchen has four employees and the front

3124
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:34,159
of house has four employees during the

3125
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:36,800
day. Two kitchen and one front of the

3126
02:15:34,159 --> 02:15:38,400
house employee at night. Plus 247

3127
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:40,400
there's always a dedicated exterior

3128
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:42,639
attendant whose job is specifically to

3129
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:44,800
clear clear any litter, move along any

3130
02:15:42,639 --> 02:15:46,320
loitering or non-c customers. The idea

3131
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:48,480
is to keep the property as safe as

3132
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:50,639
possible and and continue to keep it a

3133
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:52,320
clean and welcoming environment. The car

3134
02:15:50,639 --> 02:15:56,360
wash is fully enclosed with doors closed

3135
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:56,360
on both sides during the operation.

3136
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,599
I want to talk about the outreach

3137
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:02,159
because I think it's where we fell

3138
02:15:59,599 --> 02:16:03,920
short. U we held a virtual community

3139
02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:05,280
meeting on August August 3rd before the

3140
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:07,199
planning and zoning hearing. 18

3141
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:08,800
neighbors attended. We listened to what

3142
02:16:07,199 --> 02:16:10,239
those 18 residents told us and we

3143
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:11,760
attempted to change the plan because of

3144
02:16:10,239 --> 02:16:13,040
it. They raised concerns about

3145
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:14,960
separation between the store and the

3146
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:17,679
homes. We widen the buffer from 20 to

3147
02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:19,040
30. We with the tree line retained. They

3148
02:16:17,679 --> 02:16:20,719
raised concerns about noise from the

3149
02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:22,719
rear drive, dumpsters, and ear early

3150
02:16:20,719 --> 02:16:24,239
deliveries. We repositioned the fence at

3151
02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:26,159
the time to the rear drive where it

3152
02:16:24,239 --> 02:16:27,440
actually blocks headlights. They raised

3153
02:16:26,159 --> 02:16:28,560
they raised questions about light

3154
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:30,000
spilling. And in the meantime, we

3155
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:32,000
completed our lighting plan and put on

3156
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:33,599
the record for tonight. I'll be honest

3157
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:35,040
about what we didn't do well. 18 people

3158
02:16:33,599 --> 02:16:36,000
came to that meeting and we did not go

3159
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:37,679
back to the neighborhood after we

3160
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:39,280
improved the buffer. That's a completely

3161
02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:41,120
fair criticism and I want to own it

3162
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:42,399
directly rather than gloss past it. We

3163
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:43,840
own that mistake and we've worked

3164
02:16:42,399 --> 02:16:45,200
diligently over the past several weeks

3165
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:46,399
to improve our plan based on the

3166
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,359
feedback we received during the

3167
02:16:46,399 --> 02:16:49,120
neighborhood meeting and the planning

3168
02:16:47,359 --> 02:16:50,639
and zoning meeting. We want to be good

3169
02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:51,920
neighbors and add as much protection as

3170
02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:53,679
reasonably possible to support the

3171
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:55,040
neighborhood behind us. The result we

3172
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:56,559
have is a plan that's built around the

3173
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:58,639
homes behind us. The wood stays

3174
02:16:56,559 --> 02:17:00,240
standing. A brick wall, a 10-ft brick

3175
02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:01,679
wall blocks all the headlights. And we

3176
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:04,240
have a lighting plan that's designed to

3177
02:17:01,679 --> 02:17:06,080
stop at the property line. No vendors

3178
02:17:04,240 --> 02:17:07,359
arrive before 7 a.m. And all of it is

3179
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:10,359
enforceable as a condition of this

3180
02:17:07,359 --> 02:17:10,359
approval.

3181
02:17:10,399 --> 02:17:13,359
I think this next comparison is the most

3182
02:17:12,160 --> 02:17:15,040
important thing I'll show tonight. So,

3183
02:17:13,359 --> 02:17:18,080
I'll slow down a little bit. [snorts] In

3184
02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:20,000
October of 2015, this exact 4.8 acre

3185
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:22,240
site was already reszoned and approved

3186
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:24,639
for a 36,100

3187
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:26,160
square ft legal grocery store. That

3188
02:17:24,639 --> 02:17:28,160
approval is the benchmark for what this

3189
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:29,519
corner is already entitled to build with

3190
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:30,960
essentially none of the protections that

3191
02:17:29,519 --> 02:17:33,040
we're offering attached to our project

3192
02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:36,800
tonight. Look at the comparison.

3193
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:40,559
Building floor area 36,100 square feet

3194
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:42,639
approved in 2015 versus the 6,930 feet

3195
02:17:40,559 --> 02:17:44,880
total proposed now about 1/5if of the

3196
02:17:42,639 --> 02:17:46,719
building size. Access on LA's full

3197
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:48,639
movement was approved in 15. We're

3198
02:17:46,719 --> 02:17:51,040
offering ride in ride out only building

3199
02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:52,880
placement. The 2015 legal plan was set

3200
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:55,920
was set the building against the east

3201
02:17:52,880 --> 02:17:57,679
property line at Blackstone Court hard

3202
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:59,359
against the residential edge. Ours is

3203
02:17:57,679 --> 02:18:01,840
set to the northwest away from the

3204
02:17:59,359 --> 02:18:04,240
homes. overnight deliveries. Legal's

3205
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:05,679
policy is they do pickups at 11 PM and

3206
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:06,639
they have to be done by 5:00 am. So

3207
02:18:05,679 --> 02:18:07,519
that's the middle of the night when

3208
02:18:06,639 --> 02:18:09,599
those deliveries would have been

3209
02:18:07,519 --> 02:18:12,080
happening. We've committed to nothing

3210
02:18:09,599 --> 02:18:14,479
before 7 a.m. And the rear buffer here

3211
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:15,840
was only 35 ft of planted. That means

3212
02:18:14,479 --> 02:18:18,080
all those trees were going to go away in

3213
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:20,319
2015. We're offering 30 ft of

3214
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:22,160
undisturbed with approximately 90 ft of

3215
02:18:20,319 --> 02:18:25,040
total buffer from the from any

3216
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:26,960
improvements for the dash in.

3217
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:28,880
So, we're offering less building, less

3218
02:18:26,960 --> 02:18:30,319
less access, more separations from the

3219
02:18:28,880 --> 02:18:31,599
home than what than what the plan this

3220
02:18:30,319 --> 02:18:34,599
city has already proved in the same

3221
02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:34,599
land.

3222
02:18:34,960 --> 02:18:39,120
This is that 2015 from Bowler

3223
02:18:36,639 --> 02:18:41,679
Engineering. A 36,100T

3224
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:43,920
grocery store, 156 parking spaces on the

3225
02:18:41,679 --> 02:18:46,080
same 4.8 acres. Look at where this

3226
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:48,800
building sits. 36 ft off the property

3227
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:50,559
line with only a 35 ft planted buffer.

3228
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,679
That means the all all the trees back

3229
02:18:50,559 --> 02:18:53,120
there would have been removed. and the

3230
02:18:51,679 --> 02:18:55,359
loading and service side of the building

3231
02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:58,639
pointed directly at the homes. Our plan

3232
02:18:55,359 --> 02:19:00,719
puts a 6,930 ft of building, 1/5if of

3233
02:18:58,639 --> 02:19:02,160
the approved building size here, on the

3234
02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:04,000
far side of the site with more

3235
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:07,359
separation than the plan the city has

3236
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:08,880
previously approved.

3237
02:19:07,359 --> 02:19:10,000
I want to run through some specific

3238
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:11,599
concerns that were raised at the

3239
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:13,840
planning and zoning one at a time with

3240
02:19:11,599 --> 02:19:15,760
our response to each lights billing into

3241
02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:18,080
the rear yards. Our phototric plan now

3242
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:21,599
shows 17 foot poles, 15 foot canopy

3243
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:24,559
fixtures, zero uplight fixtures, and 0.0

3244
02:19:21,599 --> 02:19:26,800
foot candles at every property line.

3245
02:19:24,559 --> 02:19:28,479
Noise for noise from the rear drive, a

3246
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:30,719
30-ft undisturbed buffer that existing

3247
02:19:28,479 --> 02:19:32,559
tree line retain a fence at the drive is

3248
02:19:30,719 --> 02:19:34,319
what we previously proposed. Tonight,

3249
02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:36,000
we're committing to go further. 90 ft of

3250
02:19:34,319 --> 02:19:38,000
total buffer on the dash and parcel, and

3251
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:40,160
a 10-ft mason roll instead of a 6ft

3252
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:42,240
fence. Early morning dumpster and truck

3253
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:44,559
noise. Our haul agreement limits pickups

3254
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:46,559
to after 7 a.m. Fender deliveries begin

3255
02:19:44,559 --> 02:19:48,720
at 7 a.m. Fuel tankers stay on the front

3256
02:19:46,559 --> 02:19:50,160
of the site. The cut through traffic on

3257
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:52,000
Sheffield Manor, I think we've answered

3258
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:54,000
that with the traffic impact analysis as

3259
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:56,240
well. We're not adding significant

3260
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:57,680
traffic to with this project and I don't

3261
02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:59,359
foresee any reason that people will be

3262
02:19:57,680 --> 02:20:00,479
cutting through. If it does become an

3263
02:19:59,359 --> 02:20:01,600
issue and it's something that you guys

3264
02:20:00,479 --> 02:20:03,520
want to talk about, we're open to

3265
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:05,760
suggestions between speed bumps, stop

3266
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:07,359
signs, something to help mitigate people

3267
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:09,760
from trying to cut through if that is a

3268
02:20:07,359 --> 02:20:11,359
concern. the traffic study being done in

3269
02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:13,200
the summertime. People asked when that

3270
02:20:11,359 --> 02:20:15,200
traffic study was done. The counts were

3271
02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:17,040
taken in December of 25 and January of

3272
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:18,399
26 while schools were in session. So, we

3273
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:20,720
got the highest traffic counts available

3274
02:20:18,399 --> 02:20:21,920
for the study. And the car wash north of

3275
02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:23,840
the property line. The answer is the

3276
02:20:21,920 --> 02:20:28,280
bays are fully enclosed with both with

3277
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:28,280
both doors closed during the wash cycle.

3278
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:31,439
A word on who actually operates the

3279
02:20:30,319 --> 02:20:32,960
store because I think it's a fair

3280
02:20:31,439 --> 02:20:35,200
question for council to ask even though

3281
02:20:32,960 --> 02:20:36,560
it isn't a resoning criterion. Dashing

3282
02:20:35,200 --> 02:20:37,920
and Splashing are brands of the wheels

3283
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:39,680
group. They're a family-owned company

3284
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:41,600
celebrating their hundth year, and it's

3285
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:43,280
still held by the founding family. They

3286
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:44,800
operate Dashian across the Mid-Atlantic

3287
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,720
with North Carolina being the focus of

3288
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:48,240
their continued growth. Before they had

3289
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:50,560
a single store in the state, Wills Group

3290
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:52,240
gave $50,000 to the Second Harvest Food

3291
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:53,840
Bank of Metro for uh Charlotte for

3292
02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:56,560
hurricane relief. They've distributed

3293
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:57,840
over 350 pounds of food across 14 North

3294
02:20:56,560 --> 02:21:00,840
Carolina counties through the same

3295
02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:00,840
grant.

3296
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:06,000
Yeah, I think you had some technical

3297
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:07,040
difficulties. So, you've got

3298
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:07,920
» I got a couple more things to go

3299
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:09,520
through.

3300
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:11,359
» None of that is resoning criterion. I'm

3301
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:12,880
only asking to weigh in as one, but it

3302
02:21:11,359 --> 02:21:14,800
answers the question council may fairly

3303
02:21:12,880 --> 02:21:16,960
ask. Who's still going to be here in 20

3304
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:18,399
years? This is a centrial family company

3305
02:21:16,960 --> 02:21:20,000
that invested in this region before it

3306
02:21:18,399 --> 02:21:21,280
even had a store to protect. They are

3307
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:22,479
dedicated to the communities that they

3308
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:24,080
operate in. They want to be good

3309
02:21:22,479 --> 02:21:27,120
stewards in the neighborhoods they they

3310
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:30,000
operate within.

3311
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:31,280
Here's

3312
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:32,720
everything we're prepared to accept as

3313
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:34,800
binding and writing tonight. All seven

3314
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:36,080
conditions recommended by staff. On top

3315
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:38,080
of that, everything we've committed to

3316
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:39,680
on record since August 18th. A 30-ft

3317
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:41,680
understory buffer with the existing tree

3318
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:43,920
line retained over 90 ft total in the

3319
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:46,000
dash and parcel. Masonry wall in L of

3320
02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:48,000
wood fence set at the rear drive.

3321
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:49,760
dumpster pickups between 7 am and 8:00

3322
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:51,680
p.m.

3323
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:53,439
No vendor deliveries before 7 a.m. or

3324
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:55,600
800 p.m. fuel deliveries from the front

3325
02:21:53,439 --> 02:21:58,319
of the site and future use on lot 2

3326
02:21:55,600 --> 02:22:00,319
returns to commission for re review. If

3327
02:21:58,319 --> 02:22:02,080
there is any other suggestions that pe

3328
02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:03,439
that council thinks could strengthen our

3329
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:05,120
project, we're open to hearing them and

3330
02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:08,080
we're open to making making changes if

3331
02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:09,680
it if it strengthens the project.

3332
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,359
I want to close with the choice actually

3333
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:12,960
in front of you tonight. The 2015

3334
02:22:11,359 --> 02:22:14,880
approval is the benchmark for what this

3335
02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:19,280
corner can become without conditions.

3336
02:22:14,880 --> 02:22:20,640
KZCD 1515 already put a 36,100 foot

3337
02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:22,160
grocery store on these on these same

3338
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:24,399
4.8.8

3339
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:26,720
acres with its rear wall and loading

3340
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:28,319
area just set 36 ft off the Blackstone

3341
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:30,000
Core property line. None of the

3342
02:22:28,319 --> 02:22:31,760
protections were discussed tonight were

3343
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:34,000
attached to that approval. No 90 foot

3344
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:36,319
buffer, no masonry wall, no delivery

3345
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:38,000
hour limits, no lighting held to 0.0

3346
02:22:36,319 --> 02:22:39,359
foot candles at the property line, and

3347
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:41,600
conditions don't follow the land on

3348
02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:43,200
their own. If this petition is denied, a

3349
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:44,960
future application arrives with its own

3350
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:47,439
plan and every commitment we've offered

3351
02:22:44,960 --> 02:22:48,960
for tonight disappears. So here's the

3352
02:22:47,439 --> 02:22:50,160
ask. First, adopt the statement of

3353
02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:52,000
consistency using the affirmative

3354
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:53,840
finding staff itself drafted. Second,

3355
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:55,600
amend the 2030 land use plan for this

3356
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:59,200
parcel to commercial. And third, approve

3357
02:22:55,600 --> 02:23:00,800
the ZCD 2325 with all staff conditions,

3358
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:02,399
our application conditions, and every

3359
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:04,160
commitment made on record tonight,

3360
02:23:02,399 --> 02:23:05,760
including the 90 foot buffer and masonry

3361
02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:06,960
wall. This corner is going to be

3362
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:08,160
developed. It already carries an

3363
02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:09,600
approved entitlement for something

3364
02:23:08,160 --> 02:23:11,439
larger and closer to the homes that

3365
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:13,200
we're proposing. A conditional district

3366
02:23:11,439 --> 02:23:15,200
is the only tool this council has to

3367
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:16,399
decide how that happens. Denial tonight

3368
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:18,240
leaves the neighborhood with the

3369
02:23:16,399 --> 02:23:20,319
ordinance minimum and whatever plan

3370
02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:22,960
comes next. Approval makes the 90 foot

3371
02:23:20,319 --> 02:23:24,479
buffer, the masonry wall, the 0.0 foot

3372
02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:26,560
candle lighting standard, and every

3373
02:23:24,479 --> 02:23:28,560
delivery limit we've offered binding on

3374
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:30,479
this land tonight. Thank you, and I'm

3375
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:33,439
happy to answer any of your questions.

3376
02:23:30,479 --> 02:23:37,359
» Thank you.

3377
02:23:33,439 --> 02:23:40,160
Okay, we have uh three people signed up

3378
02:23:37,359 --> 02:23:46,120
speaking uh as opponents to this

3379
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:46,120
project. Uh first is Sarah Murphy.

3380
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:51,920
» Good evening to you all.

3381
02:23:50,319 --> 02:23:53,520
We talked about this a lot at the

3382
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:54,800
resoning hearing. I'm sure you've read

3383
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:56,880
through those minutes, so I I don't want

3384
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:59,280
to belabor the point. I'd ask you focus

3385
02:23:56,880 --> 02:24:02,960
on two things. complete lack of

3386
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:05,120
community need and 247. Those are the

3387
02:24:02,960 --> 02:24:07,120
two key pieces they can't argue a thing

3388
02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:09,439
to you about because that's the reality

3389
02:24:07,120 --> 02:24:11,600
of this project they're proposing. We

3390
02:24:09,439 --> 02:24:12,960
did the math, too. Um there's a Speedway

3391
02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:14,640
gas station we're expecting to be

3392
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:17,200
developed right across the street. We

3393
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:20,000
don't need another gas station. Speedway

3394
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:22,080
Willow Oaks BP that's half a mile away.

3395
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:24,800
Riptide car wash that's less than a mile

3396
02:24:22,080 --> 02:24:27,520
away. Harris Teter Fuel Center 1.2

3397
02:24:24,800 --> 02:24:30,080
miles. AMO gas station 1.4 miles.

3398
02:24:27,520 --> 02:24:32,399
Running out of hands. Quick trip 1.6

3399
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:34,800
miles with a food prep hot food station

3400
02:24:32,399 --> 02:24:36,640
already there. Circle K two miles. A

3401
02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:38,240
Circle K car wash two miles. And if you

3402
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:39,600
go to the end of Weddington in the exact

3403
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:41,680
opposite direction, guess what? You run

3404
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:44,160
into another QT. We don't need another

3405
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:45,920
one. There is no community need that

3406
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:47,760
this would be establishing. We do not

3407
02:24:45,920 --> 02:24:50,000
need another gas station. So, we'd ask

3408
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:52,080
you consider that. They talked a lot

3409
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:54,960
about precedent. I'd like you to focus

3410
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:57,120
on the complete lack of precedent. The

3411
02:24:54,960 --> 02:25:00,560
station they mentioned on Copperfield

3412
02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:03,600
has zero residential homes on that lot.

3413
02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:05,280
There are apartments, absolutely zero

3414
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:07,359
residential communities. And this is

3415
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:09,120
hugely impactful to our neighborhood, to

3416
02:25:07,359 --> 02:25:11,040
our city, and to these families who live

3417
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:14,160
on Weddington. The number is in the

3418
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:16,880
hundreds. So, I'd ask you focus on that.

3419
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:18,720
They mention future unspecified use.

3420
02:25:16,880 --> 02:25:20,720
That is deeply concerning to the

3421
02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:23,120
residents of this community and that I

3422
02:25:20,720 --> 02:25:24,399
hope is concerning to this council. Not

3423
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:26,479
being able to tell you what they want to

3424
02:25:24,399 --> 02:25:28,240
use it for down the line is not

3425
02:25:26,479 --> 02:25:30,479
sufficient

3426
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:32,319
24/7. Again, I'd ask you focus on that.

3427
02:25:30,479 --> 02:25:34,720
No matter how many pretty brick walls

3428
02:25:32,319 --> 02:25:37,040
they put up, that is not going to change

3429
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:38,640
that. Car horns, the lights, I get the

3430
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:40,240
map, the lights are going to be there.

3431
02:25:38,640 --> 02:25:42,560
The lights in the stations are over 10

3432
02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:45,520
foot tall. Um, so I'd ask you consider

3433
02:25:42,560 --> 02:25:47,920
that as well. I would also ask you to

3434
02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:50,240
consider the deep invasion to all of

3435
02:25:47,920 --> 02:25:51,840
Weddington Roads, those longestablished

3436
02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:53,600
neighborhoods, and to the schools. Those

3437
02:25:51,840 --> 02:25:55,520
are hundreds of homes. This is a huge

3438
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:57,040
traffic impact. I have no clue where

3439
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:58,720
that study came from. Anyone who's

3440
02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:01,200
driven on Weddington any time of day

3441
02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:02,640
knows it is nearly impossible to get in

3442
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:04,399
and out anywhere on that road without

3443
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:06,160
about a 15-minute delay. Heaven forbid

3444
02:26:04,399 --> 02:26:07,600
if schools in session. And we want to

3445
02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:09,200
make sure the children are protected as

3446
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:11,520
they get on and off the bus and in and

3447
02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:13,280
out of those neighborhoods. Um the

3448
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:15,280
zoning board took about three hours with

3449
02:26:13,280 --> 02:26:17,200
us. Deeply appreciate their time and

3450
02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:19,600
consideration and they asked amazing

3451
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:21,520
questions. Um please ask those same

3452
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:23,760
questions. Ask us any you have. Um,

3453
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:24,960
we're here in and your request not to

3454
02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:27,600
approve this. That's what we're asking

3455
02:26:24,960 --> 02:26:29,600
of you. Um, the traffic, the noise, the

3456
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:30,880
lights above 10 ft, and the odor. I've

3457
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:32,319
never been to a gas station where I

3458
02:26:30,880 --> 02:26:34,399
didn't smell gas. That's a new one on

3459
02:26:32,319 --> 02:26:36,319
me, but it's a very clever thing to say.

3460
02:26:34,399 --> 02:26:38,240
The last thing I'd ask, um, I'm a lawyer

3461
02:26:36,319 --> 02:26:40,399
by trade, not by disposition. They use

3462
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:42,160
the phrase convenience store with gas.

3463
02:26:40,399 --> 02:26:44,160
Couldn't have written it better myself.

3464
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:45,760
That's a legal term. It's a gas station.

3465
02:26:44,160 --> 02:26:47,920
That's what this is. There's about 12

3466
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:51,161
ports. This is a gas station. We'd ask

3467
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:53,181
you deny that approval. Okay, thank you.

3468
02:26:51,161 --> 02:26:53,181
[applause]

3469
02:26:54,960 --> 02:27:01,640
Okay, our next speaker is Jennifer

3470
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:01,640
Holberg.

3471
02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:10,399
Um, good evening, mayor and members of

3472
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:14,399
city council. Uh, my name is Jennifer

3473
02:27:10,399 --> 02:27:16,720
Holberg. I live at 1228 Blackstone Court

3474
02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:18,240
Northwest and [snorts] my property sits

3475
02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:21,120
directly behind the land we are

3476
02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:23,200
discussing this evening. In August, the

3477
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:25,920
advisory board heard our concerns and

3478
02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:27,760
voted unanimously against this resoning.

3479
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:29,520
Tonight, we ask you to respect that

3480
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:31,280
recommendation.

3481
02:27:29,520 --> 02:27:33,920
Since that hearing, the applicant has

3482
02:27:31,280 --> 02:27:36,560
added um what he presented tonight, a

3483
02:27:33,920 --> 02:27:40,720
10-ft wall and a 30 to 60 foot buffer

3484
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:43,680
between our homes in this 247 open dash

3485
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:47,600
in convenience store, gas station, and

3486
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:49,680
car wash. Lastly, um the brand new cedar

3487
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:52,560
trees that will take multiple multiple

3488
02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:55,439
years to grow. This does not address our

3489
02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:57,359
concerns. in an effort to not beat a

3490
02:27:55,439 --> 02:27:59,200
dead horse. I'll skip over the amount of

3491
02:27:57,359 --> 02:28:01,439
gas stations that are already in this

3492
02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:04,640
vicinity. The amount of car washes that

3493
02:28:01,439 --> 02:28:07,200
are in this vicinity. Um it's a proposed

3494
02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:09,680
sheets. It's already zoned for sheets.

3495
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:11,600
Um they can build it there. Um it's just

3496
02:28:09,680 --> 02:28:13,760
a matter of when that happens. And then

3497
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:16,880
we also heard tonight that another

3498
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:19,200
development residential community of 135

3499
02:28:16,880 --> 02:28:22,399
homes might go directly across the

3500
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:24,960
street. This is a two-lane road.

3501
02:28:22,399 --> 02:28:28,479
How are we adding so much traffic and

3502
02:28:24,960 --> 02:28:31,920
business and more single family homes to

3503
02:28:28,479 --> 02:28:34,960
this direct area without having the

3504
02:28:31,920 --> 02:28:37,600
appropriate traffic analysis

3505
02:28:34,960 --> 02:28:40,600
done? That also adds that into the

3506
02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:40,600
equation.

3507
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:46,319
Um, I appreciate um the representative

3508
02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:48,160
for addressing my concerns that were

3509
02:28:46,319 --> 02:28:50,960
around the US, which I brought up in the

3510
02:28:48,160 --> 02:28:54,399
meeting in August. Um, especially about

3511
02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:56,960
the control of benzene exposure. Um, and

3512
02:28:54,399 --> 02:28:59,120
I appreciate, you know, the the dates

3513
02:28:56,960 --> 02:29:01,520
that he gave that the traffic impact

3514
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:04,399
analysis was done.

3515
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:08,160
Um, however, the question still stands.

3516
02:29:04,399 --> 02:29:09,359
Um, you know, it's still a huge risk. um

3517
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:11,840
especially for the homes that are

3518
02:29:09,359 --> 02:29:14,240
directly on Blackstone Court, that

3519
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:17,200
exposure is still going to be there. Um

3520
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:20,503
and minimizing it, you know, is is not

3521
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:21,439
it's still there's still a risk. Um the

3522
02:29:20,503 --> 02:29:24,399
[clears throat] other thing that I would

3523
02:29:21,439 --> 02:29:27,359
like to talk about is I am a realer and

3524
02:29:24,399 --> 02:29:28,800
homeowner uh here in this community. Um

3525
02:29:27,359 --> 02:29:31,040
obviously concerned about property

3526
02:29:28,800 --> 02:29:33,359
values. Um, this is our biggest

3527
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:35,600
financial investment. Placing this

3528
02:29:33,359 --> 02:29:38,800
commercial fueling operation directly

3529
02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:40,640
behind my home and in this community uh

3530
02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:42,880
raises legitimate concerns about their

3531
02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:46,000
future desire desiraability,

3532
02:29:42,880 --> 02:29:47,760
marketability, and fa uh value. Um, this

3533
02:29:46,000 --> 02:29:50,640
is our financial risk. It's not the

3534
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:52,479
developers. Council's council members,

3535
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:54,960
you have w you have also received

3536
02:29:52,479 --> 02:29:57,520
numerous emails opposing this resoning

3537
02:29:54,960 --> 02:30:00,080
and your advisor advisor advisor

3538
02:29:57,520 --> 02:30:03,120
advisory board unanimously recommended

3539
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:05,680
against it. For a $30 million project

3540
02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:07,359
that needs resoning approval, they seem

3541
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:09,920
to not want the community's feedback

3542
02:30:07,359 --> 02:30:11,760
that it directly affects. No additional

3543
02:30:09,920 --> 02:30:13,359
communication has been given to us aside

3544
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:15,840
from our community meeting at the

3545
02:30:13,359 --> 02:30:18,160
beginning of August. If you guys would

3546
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:20,240
please raise your hands in Sorry, can I

3547
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:22,000
have like two seconds? Um, anybody that

3548
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:24,693
is in favor of what I just said, please

3549
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,960
raise your hand.

3550
02:30:24,693 --> 02:30:26,800
[snorts]

3551
02:30:24,960 --> 02:30:29,278
» These are all the people that don't want

3552
02:30:26,800 --> 02:30:31,298
this. Thank you.

3553
02:30:29,278 --> 02:30:31,298
[applause]

3554
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:39,840
» Okay, we have a next speaker and all I

3555
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:43,034
can make out is Ed. So, if you'll state

3556
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:43,040
your name when you come up, please.

3557
02:30:43,034 --> 02:30:46,040
» [clears throat]

3558
02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:46,040
» H

3559
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:52,880
my last name takes a while so don't

3560
02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:55,040
start to counter yet. Uh first name's

3561
02:30:52,880 --> 02:30:56,880
Ed, last name's inj. It's why you

3562
02:30:55,040 --> 02:30:58,960
couldn't pronounce or read. So good

3563
02:30:56,880 --> 02:31:01,200
evening everybody. Thank you so much. Um

3564
02:30:58,960 --> 02:31:02,800
I spoke last time in front of the city

3565
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:05,120
council here, but just want to bring a

3566
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:06,640
couple few points here for everybody. Uh

3567
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:09,520
was mentioned that there's now 30 feet

3568
02:31:06,640 --> 02:31:11,120
buffer. Um I have a size 14 shoe, so I'm

3569
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:14,439
going to walk out extra 10 feet. they're

3570
02:31:11,120 --> 02:31:14,439
granting us.

3571
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:21,520
» This is how much they gave us extra.

3572
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:23,600
This is their 30 foot buffer. That's how

3573
02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:25,520
much more they're granting us. Wow.

3574
02:31:23,600 --> 02:31:27,920
That's that's 30 ft. It's a lot more

3575
02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:29,439
now. It's not much at all. So, just make

3576
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:31,439
sure that's clear. The space to pride us

3577
02:31:29,439 --> 02:31:33,280
really isn't that much. We don't talk

3578
02:31:31,439 --> 02:31:36,000
about gas. Uh gas stations release

3579
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:37,920
benzene, a known human carcinogen. This

3580
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:40,160
exposure can increase health concerns

3581
02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:41,359
and risk and potential cancers. While

3582
02:31:40,160 --> 02:31:43,840
sometimes there's debate in these

3583
02:31:41,359 --> 02:31:45,520
studies, even if there's a debate, a

3584
02:31:43,840 --> 02:31:47,439
little bit of debate, while we knowingly

3585
02:31:45,520 --> 02:31:49,439
place additional source of emissions and

3586
02:31:47,439 --> 02:31:50,640
benzene next to our homes, near our

3587
02:31:49,439 --> 02:31:52,960
children, and near Weddington Hills

3588
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,800
Elementary School, the EPA schools

3589
02:31:52,960 --> 02:31:56,560
citing guidelines were created because

3590
02:31:54,800 --> 02:31:58,560
children are uniquely vulnerable to

3591
02:31:56,560 --> 02:32:00,080
environmental pollution. The EPA

3592
02:31:58,560 --> 02:32:02,080
specifically recommends avoiding school

3593
02:32:00,080 --> 02:32:04,000
locations that are in close proximity to

3594
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:07,359
pollution sources whenever alternatives

3595
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:09,520
exist. Well, why are we putting a gas

3596
02:32:07,359 --> 02:32:10,960
station where a school already exists?

3597
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:13,040
It's the opposite of what we're doing

3598
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:16,479
here. I'd like to talk about property

3599
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:18,160
values. Property values do not add value

3600
02:32:16,479 --> 02:32:20,319
to the local area or the local

3601
02:32:18,160 --> 02:32:22,080
community. We talk about uh

3602
02:32:20,319 --> 02:32:23,600
oversaturation already. We'll continue

3603
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:25,040
to talk about oversaturation. I think

3604
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:27,040
it's extremely important. Across the

3605
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:29,120
street, there is already a BP with a car

3606
02:32:27,040 --> 02:32:30,640
wash. Going across the street where this

3607
02:32:29,120 --> 02:32:32,960
dashing is, there's already approval for

3608
02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:34,800
a sheets, a 24-hour operation with a gas

3609
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:36,880
station. Up the road there is a Harris

3610
02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:39,040
ter fuel center, an Exxon 7-Eleven, a

3611
02:32:36,880 --> 02:32:41,920
Sicko, and also a QT that was priorly

3612
02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:43,760
prior mentioned as well. The impact in

3613
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:45,359
the noise, gas stations are not quiet as

3614
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:46,880
much as they say they drop off at 7 in

3615
02:32:45,359 --> 02:32:48,960
the morning. The previous zoning there,

3616
02:32:46,880 --> 02:32:50,720
there could drop off, you know, packages

3617
02:32:48,960 --> 02:32:52,479
at night. It's not 24 hours there.

3618
02:32:50,720 --> 02:32:54,319
There's going to be tons of doors

3619
02:32:52,479 --> 02:32:56,240
slamming, loud stereos, delivery trucks,

3620
02:32:54,319 --> 02:32:58,720
fuel tankers, garbage pickup, idling

3621
02:32:56,240 --> 02:33:00,399
engines, and people stop in all hours of

3622
02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:02,000
the evening. That's not compatible with

3623
02:33:00,399 --> 02:33:04,160
a quality of life that residents expect

3624
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:06,080
in the residential community. We

3625
02:33:04,160 --> 02:33:07,600
mentioned about traffic and safety. They

3626
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:09,040
mentioned they're make a right only out

3627
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:10,640
of the neighborhood. You make a right

3628
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:12,640
onto Weddingington Road because you

3629
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:13,840
can't make a left. So, I'm making a

3630
02:33:12,640 --> 02:33:15,920
right if we need to pull up with the map

3631
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:18,319
out of Weddington Road. Very, very next

3632
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:20,720
right is Sheffield Manor. And yes, it's

3633
02:33:18,319 --> 02:33:22,160
only 600 ft ahead. So, what do you think

3634
02:33:20,720 --> 02:33:23,439
most people are going to do? Man, I

3635
02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:25,439
can't make a left out here. It's too

3636
02:33:23,439 --> 02:33:27,200
busy. I can't make a left. Ah, I'll just

3637
02:33:25,439 --> 02:33:29,120
make a right. Uh, where's my quickest

3638
02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:30,479
turnaround? Right in the Sheffield Manor

3639
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,160
they go and they're going to loop back

3640
02:33:30,479 --> 02:33:33,920
around, turn around and try and make a

3641
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:35,280
left out of Sheffield Manor, causing

3642
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:36,479
additional traffic for us, which is

3643
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:37,920
already a challenge enough to get out of

3644
02:33:36,479 --> 02:33:39,439
the neighborhood. Finally, most

3645
02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:41,200
importantly, it doesn't meet the 2030

3646
02:33:39,439 --> 02:33:42,640
plan. The zoning package itself

3647
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:45,280
acknowledges there's concerns and

3648
02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:47,600
consistency around the zoning goals.

3649
02:33:45,280 --> 02:33:49,920
Concord's long-term vision emphasized

3650
02:33:47,600 --> 02:33:51,439
healthy living, walkability, community

3651
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:52,960
gathering, and village style

3652
02:33:51,439 --> 02:33:54,800
development. Gas station is not a

3653
02:33:52,960 --> 02:33:57,120
village center. It's not walkability.

3654
02:33:54,800 --> 02:33:58,880
It's not farmtotable. Gas station is not

3655
02:33:57,120 --> 02:34:00,720
the vision residents were promised. So

3656
02:33:58,880 --> 02:34:03,466
tonight, I respectfully ask you vote no

3657
02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:05,485
on reszoning request. Thank you.

3658
02:34:03,466 --> 02:34:05,485
[applause]

3659
02:34:10,160 --> 02:34:15,280
» Okay, that's everyone that has signed up

3660
02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:20,120
to speak and Mr. Monk, you get five

3661
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:20,120
minutes of rebuttal if you would like.

3662
02:34:20,880 --> 02:34:25,439
Uh the first question I'd like to answer

3663
02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:27,200
is uh why do I think this area needs

3664
02:34:25,439 --> 02:34:29,520
another convenience store? I don't think

3665
02:34:27,200 --> 02:34:31,439
need is finding is is isn't the finding

3666
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:32,960
before council tonight and this parcel

3667
02:34:31,439 --> 02:34:36,000
has been entitled to commercial since

3668
02:34:32,960 --> 02:34:38,080
2015. The question is is which use and

3669
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:39,680
under what conditions. But on the merits

3670
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:41,359
this isn't another version of what's at

3671
02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:43,359
this intersection. There were already

3672
02:34:41,359 --> 02:34:44,720
grocery stores serving grocery stores

3673
02:34:43,359 --> 02:34:46,720
serving this area when Publix open

3674
02:34:44,720 --> 02:34:48,399
across Georgia aisles and the city still

3675
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:50,080
approved the lead on this very pars on

3676
02:34:48,399 --> 02:34:51,600
2015 with all the existing grocery

3677
02:34:50,080 --> 02:34:54,319
stores in the area. Food Line, Harris

3678
02:34:51,600 --> 02:34:55,680
ter, Publix and then Lidle because the

3679
02:34:54,319 --> 02:34:57,520
question was never how many grocery

3680
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:59,520
stores we had. They had it was what

3681
02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:00,800
kind. Counting fuel canopies tells you

3682
02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:02,880
just as little about whether this

3683
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:04,880
offering exists here. Those are fueling

3684
02:35:02,880 --> 02:35:06,800
sites with prepackaged food. This is a

3685
02:35:04,880 --> 02:35:08,880
fully staffed made to order kitchen.

3686
02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:11,040
Eggs are cracked f eggs are cracked f

3687
02:35:08,880 --> 02:35:12,560
fresh to order. A bakery case baked in

3688
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:14,479
store. Produce prepped daily. Eight

3689
02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:16,000
employees on the floor by day with fuel

3690
02:35:14,479 --> 02:35:17,520
outside the building. And the demand

3691
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:19,520
question is answered by whoever carries

3692
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:21,359
the risk. This is a century old family

3693
02:35:19,520 --> 02:35:23,200
company putting more than $10 million of

3694
02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:24,640
its own capital into this corner. They

3695
02:35:23,200 --> 02:35:26,479
believe it. This is their this is what

3696
02:35:24,640 --> 02:35:28,160
they do. They've done heavy heavy

3697
02:35:26,479 --> 02:35:32,240
analysis on this area and they know they

3698
02:35:28,160 --> 02:35:34,000
can be successful here. Uh

3699
02:35:32,240 --> 02:35:35,600
the next was uh someone brought up it

3700
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:37,359
was a 30ft buffer. I think I just want

3701
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:39,840
to correct that as a 90 foot 90 foot

3702
02:35:37,359 --> 02:35:41,600
buffer. Uh the lighting issue I think

3703
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:43,200
we've heavily addressed by showing that

3704
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:45,120
the by how it's designed by the

3705
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:46,399
engineer. It's 0.0 foot candles for the

3706
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:47,520
property line. So our light is not

3707
02:35:46,399 --> 02:35:49,760
intruding onto the neighboring

3708
02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:51,840
properties. Uh someone mentioned the

3709
02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:53,600
cedar trees when they're planted they'll

3710
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:55,120
be 10t tall from the get-go. So we're

3711
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:57,040
not planting little tiny shrubs. We're

3712
02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:58,800
planting we're planting 10 foot tall

3713
02:35:57,040 --> 02:36:00,640
trees from the start. And those trees

3714
02:35:58,800 --> 02:36:02,160
will end up growing to 40 50 and

3715
02:36:00,640 --> 02:36:03,840
sometimes 80 feet tall if they're left

3716
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:07,840
alone long enough. So when that's said

3717
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:10,000
and done, it will be a a full uh uh

3718
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:12,880
buffer and and visual block for the

3719
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:14,560
neighborhood. Um on the traffic study,

3720
02:36:12,880 --> 02:36:16,399
again, that that was an independent

3721
02:36:14,560 --> 02:36:18,319
study. It was a rep approved and

3722
02:36:16,399 --> 02:36:20,880
reviewed by NC DOT. It's not just us

3723
02:36:18,319 --> 02:36:23,280
saying it. So um I don't know how it can

3724
02:36:20,880 --> 02:36:26,640
get a little any more objective than uh

3725
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:29,760
than that. And then uh the last was the

3726
02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:31,920
Weddington Road. Uh I drive a lot

3727
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:33,680
because of what I do for for work. I can

3728
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:35,760
tell you if I was leaving that the gas

3729
02:36:33,680 --> 02:36:37,280
station to go back on the other way, I

3730
02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:38,720
would not turn on Weddington. I just go

3731
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:39,920
back to the exist the right in right out

3732
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:41,760
that's going to be on George Liles. It

3733
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:43,359
makes no sense to make a right and then

3734
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:45,200
do a U-turn when you can just go in and

3735
02:36:43,359 --> 02:36:49,319
do the the right turn on to George

3736
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:49,319
Lyles. Um

3737
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:55,680
again, I think we've answered most of

3738
02:36:53,359 --> 02:36:57,040
the concerns uh throughout this process.

3739
02:36:55,680 --> 02:36:58,960
I I think tonight it's just an

3740
02:36:57,040 --> 02:37:00,640
opportunity to work with a development

3741
02:36:58,960 --> 02:37:02,640
that's willing to put in the protections

3742
02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:04,240
for the neighborhood and also allow a

3743
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:06,479
high quality operator to continue to

3744
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:07,200
invest in the city of Concord. Thank

3745
02:37:06,479 --> 02:37:09,520
you.

3746
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:11,840
» Thank you.

3747
02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:15,040
» All right, Valerie, I'll let you lead us

3748
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:17,760
through the process from here.

3749
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:20,160
» Well, to begin with, the [laughter] I

3750
02:37:17,760 --> 02:37:23,040
thought I thought maybe so the um

3751
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:24,800
opponents get an opportunity to rebut

3752
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:26,880
the rebuttal. I

3753
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:28,160
» I assume you're Yes.

3754
02:37:26,880 --> 02:37:29,680
» Very very briefly. Um

3755
02:37:28,160 --> 02:37:31,359
» Oh, are we having two

3756
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:32,560
» Got three as well with our five minutes?

3757
02:37:31,359 --> 02:37:33,359
We share five minutes. Correct.

3758
02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:34,640
» I'll be quick.

3759
02:37:33,359 --> 02:37:35,680
» Yes.

3760
02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:37,760
» Five minutes total.

3761
02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:40,000
» First and foremost, we're not opposed to

3762
02:37:37,760 --> 02:37:41,760
development. We are opposed to this

3763
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:43,520
development. There are so many great

3764
02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:45,760
uses for this land. Our community needs

3765
02:37:43,520 --> 02:37:48,160
so many things in that land. A daycare,

3766
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:49,680
a coffee house, a boutique, another I

3767
02:37:48,160 --> 02:37:50,960
mean, even another smaller grocery store

3768
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:52,560
across from Publix would be fine.

3769
02:37:50,960 --> 02:37:55,120
There's so many good options that do not

3770
02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:56,800
intrude onto this level as a 24-hour gas

3771
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:57,920
station would. Second thing I want to

3772
02:37:56,800 --> 02:38:00,720
point out, people coming off George

3773
02:37:57,920 --> 02:38:02,319
Lyles are going 55, 65, sometimes 75.

3774
02:38:00,720 --> 02:38:04,319
They shouldn't, but they do. Miles an

3775
02:38:02,319 --> 02:38:06,720
hour through that green light. Um,

3776
02:38:04,319 --> 02:38:08,560
slowing if it's red. Um, but that that's

3777
02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:10,479
just going to make it an impract

3778
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:12,880
impracticability, excuse me, for people

3779
02:38:10,479 --> 02:38:14,479
to turn right off of that. Um, so I'd

3780
02:38:12,880 --> 02:38:16,800
ask you consider those two things. I

3781
02:38:14,479 --> 02:38:18,800
want to reemphasize we are not opposed

3782
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:21,520
to development. That is a great thing.

3783
02:38:18,800 --> 02:38:26,280
this this city is is hugely booming is

3784
02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:26,280
wonderful opposed to this development.

3785
02:38:29,200 --> 02:38:33,439
» Thank you. So the gentleman said who's

3786
02:38:31,680 --> 02:38:35,359
going to be here in 20 years from now?

3787
02:38:33,439 --> 02:38:36,399
Well, I can guarantee that I'm most

3788
02:38:35,359 --> 02:38:37,439
likely going to be here in this

3789
02:38:36,399 --> 02:38:39,280
community still living in that

3790
02:38:37,439 --> 02:38:40,319
community. Can't guarantee you he's

3791
02:38:39,280 --> 02:38:42,960
going to be in the area after this

3792
02:38:40,319 --> 02:38:45,200
meeting this afternoon for the next 25

3793
02:38:42,960 --> 02:38:46,560
more minutes after this time period. So

3794
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:48,479
we talk about the right. I'd love to use

3795
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:50,319
the clicker if I could to go back. Can I

3796
02:38:48,479 --> 02:38:53,760
go back to the presentation to show the

3797
02:38:50,319 --> 02:38:55,280
actual um roadways? Is that possible?

3798
02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:57,520
Can someone pull that up where it shows

3799
02:38:55,280 --> 02:38:58,640
the actual strip of George Walls Parkway

3800
02:38:57,520 --> 02:39:01,800
and Weddingington Road? That would be

3801
02:38:58,640 --> 02:39:01,800
really helpful.

3802
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:13,200
Let me go back again. Sorry about that.

3803
02:39:11,200 --> 02:39:15,040
So, you'll see if I can put a pointer on

3804
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:16,800
here. I cannot. But in this area here

3805
02:39:15,040 --> 02:39:18,560
where we're talking about where we're

3806
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:20,479
exiting out, there is going to be no

3807
02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:21,760
right-hand turn into that space. You're

3808
02:39:20,479 --> 02:39:23,280
going to be literally coming off George

3809
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:25,520
Law Parkway and diving right into

3810
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:27,680
Dashen. That is the first space right

3811
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:29,200
through here. So if you imagine if you

3812
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:30,560
ever pulled out of George Law Parkway

3813
02:39:29,200 --> 02:39:32,800
where the current Harris ter is on

3814
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:35,040
George Law Parkway about 2 miles up the

3815
02:39:32,800 --> 02:39:37,359
road, if you're pulling out of there to

3816
02:39:35,040 --> 02:39:39,680
get all the way to the right hand lane,

3817
02:39:37,359 --> 02:39:41,200
you're going across this right this

3818
02:39:39,680 --> 02:39:42,720
right hand. Oh, let me make this mouse

3819
02:39:41,200 --> 02:39:44,560
work. You're going across this

3820
02:39:42,720 --> 02:39:46,240
right-hand lane here that's going to be

3821
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:48,080
turning this way. You're going to have

3822
02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:50,319
traffic making the left going this way

3823
02:39:48,080 --> 02:39:52,800
into this intersection. And also up

3824
02:39:50,319 --> 02:39:54,800
here, you have a median up in this area

3825
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:56,560
where two people, two cars are going to

3826
02:39:54,800 --> 02:39:58,240
be going double lanes here to get to

3827
02:39:56,560 --> 02:40:00,640
your lefthand turn lane to turn down to

3828
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:02,479
Wington Road. So, what we're explaining

3829
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:04,080
to me is that why would I come out here

3830
02:40:02,479 --> 02:40:05,600
and make a right? Why would I go over

3831
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:07,600
this way to make a right and go into

3832
02:40:05,600 --> 02:40:09,439
Uturn? Well, because it's going to be

3833
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:11,359
feasibly impossible to make a right-hand

3834
02:40:09,439 --> 02:40:13,359
turn lane all the way out of here to go

3835
02:40:11,359 --> 02:40:15,120
this way to make my left. What will be

3836
02:40:13,359 --> 02:40:17,200
easier is I come out here because people

3837
02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:18,800
will learn you can't do that when I'm

3838
02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:20,720
trying to come back down this way.

3839
02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:23,200
People will make a right out of here, go

3840
02:40:20,720 --> 02:40:25,280
600 ft right here to our entrance. Turn

3841
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:27,280
to our entrance, you turn back around,

3842
02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:28,399
make the left, and come down this way.

3843
02:40:27,280 --> 02:40:30,720
This is what most people are going to

3844
02:40:28,399 --> 02:40:34,479
do. People have common sense. I do

3845
02:40:30,720 --> 02:40:35,920
whatever by 45 by exit 23C over 45 is I

3846
02:40:34,479 --> 02:40:37,200
go down and turn around little apartment

3847
02:40:35,920 --> 02:40:38,880
complex come back around. It's what

3848
02:40:37,200 --> 02:40:40,399
people do. The apartment complex must

3849
02:40:38,880 --> 02:40:42,479
not like me because that's what I do all

3850
02:40:40,399 --> 02:40:45,120
the time. So people do this. So that's

3851
02:40:42,479 --> 02:40:46,880
the first piece there. And also um just

3852
02:40:45,120 --> 02:40:49,760
talk about the buffer and the trees. I

3853
02:40:46,880 --> 02:40:52,640
mean a 10-ft tree that is a a a root

3854
02:40:49,760 --> 02:40:54,560
base or a a um trunk 10-ft tree will be

3855
02:40:52,640 --> 02:40:57,280
about this big. So while I'll be here

3856
02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:58,960
for 20 years to see those trees grow, my

3857
02:40:57,280 --> 02:41:00,880
friends from Dashian will not be. And

3858
02:40:58,960 --> 02:41:02,560
lastly would be they can promise us that

3859
02:41:00,880 --> 02:41:05,520
they've been here for 100 years. We've

3860
02:41:02,560 --> 02:41:08,240
had three gas stations in the last last

3861
02:41:05,520 --> 02:41:09,920
two years change over name usage. Why is

3862
02:41:08,240 --> 02:41:11,280
that? Well, if they were successful,

3863
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:13,040
they'd continue with that same name

3864
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:14,160
usage. They won't be bought out. They

3865
02:41:13,040 --> 02:41:15,439
wouldn't be closing. They wouldn't be

3866
02:41:14,160 --> 02:41:17,439
turning over. We've got consistent

3867
02:41:15,439 --> 02:41:19,600
turnover. There's still a gas station on

3868
02:41:17,439 --> 02:41:21,120
29 that is still sitting vacant. It is

3869
02:41:19,600 --> 02:41:22,640
something that can happen. And once we

3870
02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:24,560
have that, we have blight. Then we have

3871
02:41:22,640 --> 02:41:26,240
challenges. And then after that, what

3872
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:27,439
comes in next to use that gas station?

3873
02:41:26,240 --> 02:41:29,200
So, just want to provide that

3874
02:41:27,439 --> 02:41:31,491
information as a rebuff to the comments

3875
02:41:29,200 --> 02:41:33,511
provided. Thank you.

3876
02:41:31,491 --> 02:41:33,511
[applause]

3877
02:41:38,080 --> 02:41:41,040
» Okay. Um,

3878
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:42,000
» Of course, we still have the public

3879
02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:43,760
hearing open.

3880
02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:44,960
» Yes. I was just going to say, um,

3881
02:41:43,760 --> 02:41:46,800
» Yes,

3882
02:41:44,960 --> 02:41:48,800
» Council members, any questions before we

3883
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:50,479
close the public hearing?

3884
02:41:48,800 --> 02:41:51,840
» All right. The public hearing is now

3885
02:41:50,479 --> 02:41:53,920
closed.

3886
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:56,720
» Oh, you did. I'm sorry. Turn your green

3887
02:41:53,920 --> 02:41:58,399
light on. [laughter]

3888
02:41:56,720 --> 02:42:00,640
I'm sorry.

3889
02:41:58,399 --> 02:42:01,200
» Yeah. Yeah. Just open the hearing again.

3890
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:03,280
» Sorry.

3891
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:04,240
» Okay. The hearing is open.

3892
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:07,439
» Sorry. [clears throat]

3893
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:11,160
» I tried to catch you. Um Fred, questions

3894
02:42:07,439 --> 02:42:11,160
for you, sir. Please.

3895
02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:19,040
» Boy, I circled them in all of this. And

3896
02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:21,520
okay, here's my first question. Uh, it

3897
02:42:19,040 --> 02:42:22,720
was referenced. So, thank you for the

3898
02:42:21,520 --> 02:42:24,560
history. I think I told you that

3899
02:42:22,720 --> 02:42:26,479
Tuesday. I I never knew that the George

3900
02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:28,000
Law was bisecting this property. I

3901
02:42:26,479 --> 02:42:33,280
always wondered why we ended up with

3902
02:42:28,000 --> 02:42:36,479
this funky corner of there. So why go

3903
02:42:33,280 --> 02:42:37,680
from C1 to C2? I understand the

3904
02:42:36,479 --> 02:42:39,840
conditional use and I'm going to ask

3905
02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:42,880
about that in a minute, but uh I think

3906
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:45,680
the our our gentleman referenced full

3907
02:42:42,880 --> 02:42:48,240
fuel and car wash. Is that the only two

3908
02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:50,319
or is it size store as well? Like is

3909
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:51,520
there anything? I have the use chart

3910
02:42:50,319 --> 02:42:54,560
here, but I

3911
02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:56,399
» Yes, ma'am. Pursuant to 8.3.6

3912
02:42:54,560 --> 02:42:59,120
I want to say H in dealing with

3913
02:42:56,399 --> 02:43:01,680
convenience stores there's a maximum

3914
02:42:59,120 --> 02:43:03,520
size requirement okay for C1 and I think

3915
02:43:01,680 --> 02:43:05,359
that that's if I'm not mistaken 2,000

3916
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:09,280
square ft. I mean here we're talking

3917
02:43:05,359 --> 02:43:12,640
5600 ft ergo we're going with C2 where

3918
02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:16,560
there is no maximum requirement there.

3919
02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:18,160
» Okay. My other question is

3920
02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:20,000
uh can you expound a little bit on the

3921
02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:22,720
development of the parcel? I know it was

3922
02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:24,960
mentioned that there's does that scare

3923
02:43:22,720 --> 02:43:27,200
us that there's not, but can you explain

3924
02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:28,800
since it's a conditional use on the

3925
02:43:27,200 --> 02:43:31,040
second parcel that is showing

3926
02:43:28,800 --> 02:43:33,359
undeveloped right now, can you explain

3927
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:34,319
what that process would be?

3928
02:43:33,359 --> 02:43:36,800
» Um, yes, ma'am.

3929
02:43:34,319 --> 02:43:38,000
» For that to be developed one year from

3930
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:40,160
now, 20 years from now.

3931
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:41,120
» Yes, ma'am. Uh, any change to the site

3932
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:42,880
plan [clears throat] that's been

3933
02:43:41,120 --> 02:43:44,399
presented to you tonight would be would

3934
02:43:42,880 --> 02:43:46,640
be required to come back to planning and

3935
02:43:44,399 --> 02:43:48,560
zoning commission for uh, you know, an

3936
02:43:46,640 --> 02:43:51,120
amendment to the conditional reszoning.

3937
02:43:48,560 --> 02:43:52,880
So the conditional resoning is bound by

3938
02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:54,319
site plan. The site plan that we have in

3939
02:43:52,880 --> 02:43:56,479
front of us and the uses that are

3940
02:43:54,319 --> 02:43:59,120
proposed are what are to be decided

3941
02:43:56,479 --> 02:44:01,040
upon. Anything future would have to be

3942
02:43:59,120 --> 02:44:03,600
uh relitigated for lack of a better term

3943
02:44:01,040 --> 02:44:05,439
looked at again um for an amendment an

3944
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:06,880
amended um conditional resoning.

3945
02:44:05,439 --> 02:44:08,080
» Hence the conditional

3946
02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:08,560
» That's correct district. Okay. Yes

3947
02:44:08,080 --> 02:44:12,000
ma'am.

3948
02:44:08,560 --> 02:44:14,319
» Here's my final question. Um, let's say

3949
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:17,520
this reszone gets turned down and Monday

3950
02:44:14,319 --> 02:44:19,680
morning, uh, Lidle knocks on the city's

3951
02:44:17,520 --> 02:44:24,319
front door and says, "We would like to

3952
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:25,600
build our 36,000 square foot store with

3953
02:44:24,319 --> 02:44:26,800
I'm going to I'm going to go off the

3954
02:44:25,600 --> 02:44:29,520
site plan because I have not looked at

3955
02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:31,600
the site plan, the 35 planted buffer,

3956
02:44:29,520 --> 02:44:34,720
which does mean that every tree could be

3957
02:44:31,600 --> 02:44:36,800
torn down. I would assume that site plan

3958
02:44:34,720 --> 02:44:40,319
being a little older, there would be

3959
02:44:36,800 --> 02:44:42,080
revisions that may have to be made or

3960
02:44:40,319 --> 02:44:43,200
would there be revisions that had to be

3961
02:44:42,080 --> 02:44:44,640
made?

3962
02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:46,479
» Depending on if there were many

3963
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:48,319
ordinance changes between, you know,

3964
02:44:46,479 --> 02:44:50,240
that time and now. Correct. However, I

3965
02:44:48,319 --> 02:44:52,479
mean, in all likelihood, if they made it

3966
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:54,800
through the the civil review process or

3967
02:44:52,479 --> 02:44:56,720
the permitting process, I mean, whatever

3968
02:44:54,800 --> 02:44:57,520
is was approved previously could be

3969
02:44:56,720 --> 02:44:58,479
constructed.

3970
02:44:57,520 --> 02:45:00,399
» Okay.

3971
02:44:58,479 --> 02:45:02,960
Um, I think that's my question cuz I

3972
02:45:00,399 --> 02:45:04,640
just I we have been here before and I'm

3973
02:45:02,960 --> 02:45:06,880
letting you guys know there was a

3974
02:45:04,640 --> 02:45:09,920
Walmart that was proposed with a 100

3975
02:45:06,880 --> 02:45:11,760
foot buffer. The reason was turned down

3976
02:45:09,920 --> 02:45:13,520
and the first call I got Monday morning

3977
02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:16,240
was from a person that wanted to know

3978
02:45:13,520 --> 02:45:19,040
where their 100 foot buffer was. I just

3979
02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:22,000
and I say that just to say I think this

3980
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:23,520
is a really complicated process and I

3981
02:45:22,000 --> 02:45:26,240
just want to ensure that you guys

3982
02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:28,640
understand that lle could turn dirt on

3983
02:45:26,240 --> 02:45:30,399
Tuesday. Now, I don't know. Some of you

3984
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:33,040
have said, "I don't care. I just don't

3985
02:45:30,399 --> 02:45:35,520
want this. I just need to my I'm gonna

3986
02:45:33,040 --> 02:45:38,399
end it with this." If you say no to

3987
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:41,040
something, you are always saying yes to

3988
02:45:38,399 --> 02:45:43,520
something else. Always. Always. And in

3989
02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:45,359
this case, and in most cases, you just

3990
02:45:43,520 --> 02:45:47,920
don't know what that is. Right? In this

3991
02:45:45,359 --> 02:45:50,160
case, it could be the legal. I don't I

3992
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:52,640
don't know that, right? But there will

3993
02:45:50,160 --> 02:45:53,920
be this land will be developed, right?

3994
02:45:52,640 --> 02:45:55,760
It's just a matter of what will be

3995
02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:57,439
developed on it. I just want to make

3996
02:45:55,760 --> 02:45:59,760
sure that's my duty to ensure you guys

3997
02:45:57,439 --> 02:46:02,640
understand that the only way it cannot

3998
02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:04,560
be developed is if you purchase it and

3999
02:46:02,640 --> 02:46:07,600
then you develop it with whatever you

4000
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:08,640
want to do. So thank you Fred

4001
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:12,479
» John.

4002
02:46:08,640 --> 02:46:14,640
» Yes. Um about the same thing. So little

4003
02:46:12,479 --> 02:46:16,560
comes up next week wants to do it. Is

4004
02:46:14,640 --> 02:46:18,240
there sewer approved or do they still

4005
02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:20,880
have to go through that process again?

4006
02:46:18,240 --> 02:46:23,600
» Uh I think their sewer is still if I'm

4007
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:25,359
not mistaken I think it's still uh

4008
02:46:23,600 --> 02:46:27,040
valid. It should be still valid.

4009
02:46:25,359 --> 02:46:27,439
» Okay. So, um

4010
02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:29,279
» Okay.

4011
02:46:27,439 --> 02:46:32,000
» So, it's valid for that type of

4012
02:46:29,279 --> 02:46:33,520
situation. Okay. Um

4013
02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:35,120
» Last thing I just want to clarify and I

4014
02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:37,279
think Jennifer may cover. I just want

4015
02:46:35,120 --> 02:46:38,720
from my understanding that additional

4016
02:46:37,279 --> 02:46:39,920
lot we're talking about still has to go

4017
02:46:38,720 --> 02:46:41,840
through the whole process we're talking

4018
02:46:39,920 --> 02:46:43,680
about right now. It can't just be turned

4019
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:45,439
dirt and put an extra parking lot. It

4020
02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:48,080
has to come through all these processes,

4021
02:46:45,439 --> 02:46:50,160
approvals again for uh planning and

4022
02:46:48,080 --> 02:46:51,359
zoning then to us if if not.

4023
02:46:50,160 --> 02:46:53,920
» That's correct. Yes, sir.

4024
02:46:51,359 --> 02:46:55,760
» Yeah. Great. Lori,

4025
02:46:53,920 --> 02:46:58,560
» I I don't have a quest a question for

4026
02:46:55,760 --> 02:47:00,800
you, but I do have one for you, John.

4027
02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:02,640
Just out of curiosity,

4028
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:04,960
how can you guarantee these neighbors

4029
02:47:02,640 --> 02:47:07,279
that deliveries would only be between 7

4030
02:47:04,960 --> 02:47:09,279
and 8:00 at night? I mean,

4031
02:47:07,279 --> 02:47:12,080
» Well, we can make it into the condition

4032
02:47:09,279 --> 02:47:13,600
similarly how we can and it just be up

4033
02:47:12,080 --> 02:47:14,800
to code enforcement to enforce it, but

4034
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:16,000
it's also written into the vendor

4035
02:47:14,800 --> 02:47:17,120
agreements that they can't show up

4036
02:47:16,000 --> 02:47:18,800
before 7 a.m.

4037
02:47:17,120 --> 02:47:20,000
» Because, you know, it's easier to ask

4038
02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:21,520
forgiveness

4039
02:47:20,000 --> 02:47:22,640
» De definitely. But it's it's written to

4040
02:47:21,520 --> 02:47:24,240
the into the vendor agreements

4041
02:47:22,640 --> 02:47:25,520
currently. I mean, even on the the store

4042
02:47:24,240 --> 02:47:26,479
in Vine Haven, they're not showing up in

4043
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:28,960
the middle of the night now.

4044
02:47:26,479 --> 02:47:30,319
» Okay. Thank you. I I just was curious

4045
02:47:28,960 --> 02:47:33,200
how you would

4046
02:47:30,319 --> 02:47:35,520
» Make that good on that promise. So,

4047
02:47:33,200 --> 02:47:38,240
thank you.

4048
02:47:35,520 --> 02:47:41,040
» Okay. Any additional questions before we

4049
02:47:38,240 --> 02:47:43,200
close the public hearing?

4050
02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:47,720
I don't see any lights. And John, yours

4051
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:47,720
is down so low I can't see it anyway.

4052
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:53,439
» All right. hearing. Hearing none, we

4053
02:47:50,399 --> 02:47:55,040
will close the public hearing uh and

4054
02:47:53,439 --> 02:47:56,479
Valerie will guide us through the

4055
02:47:55,040 --> 02:47:58,479
process.

4056
02:47:56,479 --> 02:48:00,960
» Okay, if we could get the statements of

4057
02:47:58,479 --> 02:48:03,359
consistency back up, please. Thank you.

4058
02:48:00,960 --> 02:48:06,240
Um so here are your suggested statements

4059
02:48:03,359 --> 02:48:08,640
of consistency staff drafted for you. We

4060
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:11,040
have the one supporting approval with

4061
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:14,319
the green caption and the one supporting

4062
02:48:11,040 --> 02:48:17,200
denial with the red caption. and we

4063
02:48:14,319 --> 02:48:19,840
would need a motion to adopt one or the

4064
02:48:17,200 --> 02:48:23,520
other of these.

4065
02:48:19,840 --> 02:48:26,479
» So, council, what is your pleasure?

4066
02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:30,319
» So, I will I'm happy to kick it off. Um,

4067
02:48:26,479 --> 02:48:32,160
my decision is solely based on this not

4068
02:48:30,319 --> 02:48:34,080
does not currently line up with the land

4069
02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:36,720
use plan. We just had this discussion

4070
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:39,040
before. Um, I do want to commend the

4071
02:48:36,720 --> 02:48:40,720
developer. Uh, this is why this is

4072
02:48:39,040 --> 02:48:43,439
supposed this is how this process is

4073
02:48:40,720 --> 02:48:45,600
supposed to work. you give feedback, the

4074
02:48:43,439 --> 02:48:46,880
developer responds. I got to be honest

4075
02:48:45,600 --> 02:48:48,560
with you guys, I hadn't seen a lot of

4076
02:48:46,880 --> 02:48:50,880
developers that have responded in this

4077
02:48:48,560 --> 02:48:54,080
way. So, I just I I need to put that out

4078
02:48:50,880 --> 02:48:57,200
there. Um, but my my decision is solely

4079
02:48:54,080 --> 02:48:59,120
based on land use and also just similar

4080
02:48:57,200 --> 02:49:02,880
projects. I do think that was mentioned

4081
02:48:59,120 --> 02:49:05,279
and that's where mine is. So, my uh I

4082
02:49:02,880 --> 02:49:08,080
would say to support the denial would be

4083
02:49:05,279 --> 02:49:09,840
what my my recommendation would be.

4084
02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:11,040
» Is that a motion? Is is that a motion,

4085
02:49:09,840 --> 02:49:14,240
Jennifer?

4086
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:16,080
Jennifer. Uh, that's a motion to adopt

4087
02:49:14,240 --> 02:49:17,680
the statement of consistency supporting

4088
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:21,680
denial.

4089
02:49:17,680 --> 02:49:23,920
» And we do have a second on that motion.

4090
02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:26,640
» Okay. Is there further discussion, Lori?

4091
02:49:23,920 --> 02:49:29,520
» No, I I do not. I'm sorry.

4092
02:49:26,640 --> 02:49:31,279
» Okay. Any other discussion?

4093
02:49:29,520 --> 02:49:36,160
All right. We do have a motion on the

4094
02:49:31,279 --> 02:49:38,560
floor supporting denial. Uh, so all in

4095
02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:40,720
favor, please say I.

4096
02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:42,000
All oppose, please say no.

4097
02:49:40,720 --> 02:49:46,800
» No.

4098
02:49:42,000 --> 02:49:48,800
» Okay, that motion passes. Uh, four to

4099
02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:52,399
two.

4100
02:49:48,800 --> 02:49:54,560
Five to two, excuse me.

4101
02:49:52,399 --> 02:49:56,800
» Excellent. So, next step.

4102
02:49:54,560 --> 02:49:59,760
» So, now the next step is to approve or

4103
02:49:56,800 --> 02:50:01,600
deny the zoning map amendment. Um,

4104
02:49:59,760 --> 02:50:03,200
obviously if you're approving, you need

4105
02:50:01,600 --> 02:50:06,720
your conditions. If you're denying, you

4106
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:11,160
do not need your conditions.

4107
02:50:06,720 --> 02:50:11,160
» Okay. Council, do I hear a motion?

4108
02:50:11,760 --> 02:50:16,479
» Mayor, I'll I'll make a motion to deny

4109
02:50:13,840 --> 02:50:17,760
the zoning map a zoning map amendment

4110
02:50:16,479 --> 02:50:18,960
with condition.

4111
02:50:17,760 --> 02:50:22,319
» I'll second that.

4112
02:50:18,960 --> 02:50:26,080
» Okay, we have a motion and a second to

4113
02:50:22,319 --> 02:50:28,240
deny the zoning map amendment. Is there

4114
02:50:26,080 --> 02:50:31,920
discussion?

4115
02:50:28,240 --> 02:50:34,399
Okay. All in favor, please say I.

4116
02:50:31,920 --> 02:50:36,000
» All opposed, please say no.

4117
02:50:34,399 --> 02:50:40,399
» No.

4118
02:50:36,000 --> 02:50:43,359
» Okay. same vote, five to two. Uh so that

4119
02:50:40,399 --> 02:50:45,600
motion uh does not pass

4120
02:50:43,359 --> 02:50:47,920
» And because the map amendment was not

4121
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:49,359
passed, there's no need for a land use

4122
02:50:47,920 --> 02:50:53,160
plan amendment.

4123
02:50:49,359 --> 02:50:53,160
» Great. Thank you.

4124
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:59,680
All right, we move to the next item,

4125
02:50:56,160 --> 02:51:03,080
which is item four, which is also a

4126
02:50:59,680 --> 02:51:03,080
public hearing.

4127
02:51:05,680 --> 02:51:14,200
And I will open the public hearing and

4128
02:51:08,880 --> 02:51:14,200
ask Fred to explain this item.

4129
02:51:16,479 --> 02:51:19,960
Make a question.

4130
02:51:34,160 --> 02:51:36,960
Take care.

4131
02:51:39,120 --> 02:51:43,040
All right, sir.

4132
02:51:40,319 --> 02:51:44,880
» All right. Good evening again, uh, Mayor

4133
02:51:43,040 --> 02:51:49,200
Morris, members of council, uh, Mr.

4134
02:51:44,880 --> 02:51:51,920
Payne, Miss Kchinsky, Miss Jenkins. The

4135
02:51:49,200 --> 02:51:54,880
item before you is a volunteer

4136
02:51:51,920 --> 02:51:57,920
annexation petition for a single parcel

4137
02:51:54,880 --> 02:52:01,279
consisting of 32 approximately 32.927

4138
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:03,439
acres uh, located at 9511 Benjamin

4139
02:52:01,279 --> 02:52:05,200
Walker Lane. on the property is owned by

4140
02:52:03,439 --> 02:52:07,600
the city of Concord and the applicant

4141
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:10,160
for this re uh for this annexation is

4142
02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:12,160
the city's parks and recck department.

4143
02:52:10,160 --> 02:52:14,160
Um the proposed annexation would be for

4144
02:52:12,160 --> 02:52:16,560
the construction of a greenway uh to

4145
02:52:14,160 --> 02:52:19,520
connect the J Ramsur Park uh to the

4146
02:52:16,560 --> 02:52:21,680
nearby neighborhood.

4147
02:52:19,520 --> 02:52:24,720
The zoning map shows a property uh in

4148
02:52:21,680 --> 02:52:27,040
the Red Cross hatched area um that it's

4149
02:52:24,720 --> 02:52:29,359
currently zoned Cabaris County LDR which

4150
02:52:27,040 --> 02:52:31,359
is low density residential and if the

4151
02:52:29,359 --> 02:52:34,080
annexation is approved the request for

4152
02:52:31,359 --> 02:52:36,560
zoning would be to city of Concord

4153
02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:39,680
office institutional uh for the proposed

4154
02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:42,000
greenway use

4155
02:52:39,680 --> 02:52:44,080
regards to the 2030 land use plan. The

4156
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:45,520
proposed office and institutional zoning

4157
02:52:44,080 --> 02:52:48,240
is consistent with the suburban

4158
02:52:45,520 --> 02:52:49,840
neighborhoods land use category. Um and

4159
02:52:48,240 --> 02:52:52,640
the park and greenway use is a

4160
02:52:49,840 --> 02:52:55,600
compatible use within uh in regards to

4161
02:52:52,640 --> 02:52:57,120
the surrounding zoning.

4162
02:52:55,600 --> 02:52:58,800
If council approves the annexation

4163
02:52:57,120 --> 02:53:01,520
petition, the property will become a

4164
02:52:58,800 --> 02:53:03,279
part of uh district 4 as shown on this

4165
02:53:01,520 --> 02:53:05,760
map here.

4166
02:53:03,279 --> 02:53:08,319
Um and as with all annexations, both

4167
02:53:05,760 --> 02:53:10,080
internal and external entities um were

4168
02:53:08,319 --> 02:53:12,960
notified and given the opportunity to

4169
02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:15,439
comment or provide feedback um on the

4170
02:53:12,960 --> 02:53:17,359
proposal and no comments were returned.

4171
02:53:15,439 --> 02:53:19,120
Um additionally, adjacent property

4172
02:53:17,359 --> 02:53:21,920
owners and recognized neighborhoods and

4173
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:24,240
HOAs were notified via mail um of the

4174
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:27,120
annexation u by planning staff with

4175
02:53:24,240 --> 02:53:28,800
letters dated August 24th of this year

4176
02:53:27,120 --> 02:53:30,560
and as well as with an advertisement run

4177
02:53:28,800 --> 02:53:33,600
in the indep independent tribune on

4178
02:53:30,560 --> 02:53:35,359
August the 29th of this year.

4179
02:53:33,600 --> 02:53:38,000
In regards to council's next steps are

4180
02:53:35,359 --> 02:53:40,160
to consider the annexation request to

4181
02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:43,040
adopt or deny the annexation and if

4182
02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:44,560
adopted um consideration uh before

4183
02:53:43,040 --> 02:53:46,160
planning and zoning commission for the

4184
02:53:44,560 --> 02:53:48,375
recommendation for the resoning will be

4185
02:53:46,160 --> 02:53:49,920
held at their October 20th meeting.

4186
02:53:48,375 --> 02:53:52,640
[snorts] I'll gladly take any questions

4187
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:56,640
the council may have at this time.

4188
02:53:52,640 --> 02:53:59,680
» Any questions for Fred?

4189
02:53:56,640 --> 02:54:03,040
All right. Thank you. We do not have

4190
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:05,040
anyone signed up to speak. uh in this

4191
02:54:03,040 --> 02:54:09,960
public hearing. Council members, do you

4192
02:54:05,040 --> 02:54:09,960
have questions before we close? Terry?

4193
02:54:10,640 --> 02:54:14,399
» None. Uh we will close the public

4194
02:54:12,880 --> 02:54:20,800
hearing.

4195
02:54:14,399 --> 02:54:23,760
Um and so our option here is to

4196
02:54:20,800 --> 02:54:27,120
move to adopt the annexation ordinance

4197
02:54:23,760 --> 02:54:29,680
and set an effective date for September

4198
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:32,080
10th, 2026

4199
02:54:29,680 --> 02:54:33,920
or not. Mayor, I move we adopt the

4200
02:54:32,080 --> 02:54:35,760
ordinance and set that date of September

4201
02:54:33,920 --> 02:54:36,720
10th.

4202
02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:40,560
» I second.

4203
02:54:36,720 --> 02:54:44,319
» Okay, we have a motion and a second to

4204
02:54:40,560 --> 02:54:48,399
adopt the annexation ordinance and set

4205
02:54:44,319 --> 02:54:50,560
the effective date. Any discussion?

4206
02:54:48,399 --> 02:54:51,920
Hearing none. All in favor, please say

4207
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:55,040
I.

4208
02:54:51,920 --> 02:54:56,560
» All oppose? No. That motion passes

4209
02:54:55,040 --> 02:54:59,359
unanimously.

4210
02:54:56,560 --> 02:55:02,080
Uh we now go to presentations of

4211
02:54:59,359 --> 02:55:05,040
petitions and request. Uh we heard from

4212
02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:07,600
Jeff and Alex on item number one on

4213
02:55:05,040 --> 02:55:09,680
Tuesday night authorizing the city

4214
02:55:07,600 --> 02:55:13,279
manager to execute multiple change

4215
02:55:09,680 --> 02:55:15,760
orders with Wesco for the electric and

4216
02:55:13,279 --> 02:55:18,880
water resources meter replacement and

4217
02:55:15,760 --> 02:55:21,680
AMI project. Does anybody have any

4218
02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:25,520
additional questions for them?

4219
02:55:21,680 --> 02:55:28,160
Um, if not, I would entertain a motion

4220
02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:31,200
to authorize the city manager to execute

4221
02:55:28,160 --> 02:55:33,760
multiple change orders with Wesco for

4222
02:55:31,200 --> 02:55:36,560
the electric and water resources meter

4223
02:55:33,760 --> 02:55:40,200
replacement and AMI project in the

4224
02:55:36,560 --> 02:55:40,200
amount of $234,02047

4225
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:48,960
and authorize the city manager to

4226
02:55:45,279 --> 02:55:54,600
approve an additional $250,000

4227
02:55:48,960 --> 02:55:54,600
in future change orders as needed.

4228
02:55:55,120 --> 02:56:00,000
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

4229
02:55:57,760 --> 02:56:02,640
discussion?

4230
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:07,359
All in favor, please say I.

4231
02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:10,720
» All oppose? No. That motion passes. Uh,

4232
02:56:07,359 --> 02:56:15,200
next up we heard on item number two from

4233
02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:17,680
Eric uh regarding um negotiating and

4234
02:56:15,200 --> 02:56:20,240
executing a contract with JD Goodram for

4235
02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:22,479
the construction of the hanger in common

4236
02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:26,760
at the Concord Pageant Regional Airport

4237
02:56:22,479 --> 02:56:26,760
in the amount of 13,229,824.96.

4238
02:56:30,880 --> 02:56:35,840
Does anybody have additional questions

4239
02:56:32,960 --> 02:56:39,760
for Eric?

4240
02:56:35,840 --> 02:56:42,000
Uh if not, uh I would entertain a motion

4241
02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:45,840
to authorize the city manager to

4242
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:48,880
negotiate and execute a contract with JD

4243
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:50,560
Goodram for construction of the hanger

4244
02:56:48,880 --> 02:56:51,680
in common.

4245
02:56:50,560 --> 02:56:52,560
» So move, sir.

4246
02:56:51,680 --> 02:56:54,640
» I'll second it.

4247
02:56:52,560 --> 02:56:56,640
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is

4248
02:56:54,640 --> 02:56:59,359
there discussion?

4249
02:56:56,640 --> 02:57:03,840
All in favor, please say I.

4250
02:56:59,359 --> 02:57:07,840
» All oppose, no. That motion passes. Uh

4251
02:57:03,840 --> 02:57:10,080
next up also uh from the airport uh

4252
02:57:07,840 --> 02:57:11,920
which Eric talked with us about

4253
02:57:10,080 --> 02:57:14,640
approving the selection of Talbert

4254
02:57:11,920 --> 02:57:17,760
Brighton Ellington as the selected firm

4255
02:57:14,640 --> 02:57:20,319
for professional airport architect

4256
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:22,640
engineering consulting services for

4257
02:57:20,319 --> 02:57:25,600
development projects and special

4258
02:57:22,640 --> 02:57:29,279
services at the Concord Padet Regional

4259
02:57:25,600 --> 02:57:33,120
Airport as required for federal federal

4260
02:57:29,279 --> 02:57:35,680
aviation administration compliance for a

4261
02:57:33,120 --> 02:57:37,680
five-year period and to authorize the

4262
02:57:35,680 --> 02:57:39,760
city manager to negotiate and execute

4263
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:42,560
the contract with Talbert Brightite and

4264
02:57:39,760 --> 02:57:46,000
Ellington Incorporated. Any additional

4265
02:57:42,560 --> 02:57:47,760
questions on that one? Uh then I would

4266
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:51,680
entertain a motion to approve the

4267
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:54,800
selection of TBE as the professional AE

4268
02:57:51,680 --> 02:57:57,680
for Concord Pageant Regional Airport as

4269
02:57:54,800 --> 02:57:59,680
required by FAA compliance and authorize

4270
02:57:57,680 --> 02:58:02,880
the city manager to negotiate and

4271
02:57:59,680 --> 02:58:06,600
execute contract with Talbert Bright and

4272
02:58:02,880 --> 02:58:06,600
Ellington Incorporated.

4273
02:58:06,960 --> 02:58:10,800
» Mayor.

4274
02:58:08,399 --> 02:58:12,720
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

4275
02:58:10,800 --> 02:58:15,359
discussion?

4276
02:58:12,720 --> 02:58:19,680
All in favor, please say I.

4277
02:58:15,359 --> 02:58:22,640
» All oppose, no. That motion passes. Uh,

4278
02:58:19,680 --> 02:58:25,439
item number four, uh, Jessica talked

4279
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:28,080
with us on Tuesday. Consider adopting a

4280
02:58:25,439 --> 02:58:30,000
resolution concerning the approval of

4281
02:58:28,080 --> 02:58:32,800
the execution and delivery of an

4282
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:36,240
installment financing contract with

4283
02:58:32,800 --> 02:58:38,399
Flagstar Public Funding Corporation.

4284
02:58:36,240 --> 02:58:40,720
Does anybody have additional questions

4285
02:58:38,399 --> 02:58:43,920
on that one?

4286
02:58:40,720 --> 02:58:46,080
Uh if not, I would entertain a motion to

4287
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:49,200
adopt a resolution concerning the

4288
02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:51,840
approval of the execution and delivery

4289
02:58:49,200 --> 02:58:55,120
of a installment financing contract with

4290
02:58:51,840 --> 02:58:58,720
Flagstar Public Funding Corporation in

4291
02:58:55,120 --> 02:59:01,439
order to obtain funds to pay the cost of

4292
02:58:58,720 --> 02:59:04,399
constructing, equipping, and furnishing

4293
02:59:01,439 --> 02:59:06,640
a new facility designed to support the

4294
02:59:04,399 --> 02:59:09,600
city's communications and emergency

4295
02:59:06,640 --> 02:59:12,960
management operations and the granting

4296
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:15,920
of a security interest and allowing the

4297
02:59:12,960 --> 02:59:18,880
officers of the city to execute the

4298
02:59:15,920 --> 02:59:21,120
installment financing contract and take

4299
02:59:18,880 --> 02:59:24,000
other actions to implement the

4300
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:26,240
financing.

4301
02:59:24,000 --> 02:59:28,560
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is

4302
02:59:26,240 --> 02:59:31,359
there discussion?

4303
02:59:28,560 --> 02:59:35,760
All in favor, please say I.

4304
02:59:31,359 --> 02:59:39,520
» All oppose? No. That motion passes. Uh,

4305
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:42,080
next up, uh, item five, Rick talked to

4306
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:44,240
us about con, uh, authorizing the city

4307
02:59:42,080 --> 02:59:48,000
manager to negotiate and execute a

4308
02:59:44,240 --> 02:59:51,359
contract with Edifice Construction for

4309
02:59:48,000 --> 02:59:55,040
the construction of the city of Concord

4310
02:59:51,359 --> 02:59:58,160
Communications and Emergency Operations

4311
02:59:55,040 --> 03:00:01,600
Center. Does anybody have any additional

4312
02:59:58,160 --> 03:00:04,000
questions on that one?

4313
03:00:01,600 --> 03:00:06,880
Uh, hearing none, I would entertain a

4314
03:00:04,000 --> 03:00:09,120
motion to authorize the city manager to

4315
03:00:06,880 --> 03:00:11,840
negotiate and execute a contract with

4316
03:00:09,120 --> 03:00:14,560
Edifice Construction Incorporated for

4317
03:00:11,840 --> 03:00:17,120
the construction of the city of Concord

4318
03:00:14,560 --> 03:00:20,080
Communication and Emergency Operations

4319
03:00:17,120 --> 03:00:23,080
Center in an amount not to exceed

4320
03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:23,080
7,523,869.

4321
03:00:29,120 --> 03:00:32,880
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

4322
03:00:31,359 --> 03:00:35,760
discussion?

4323
03:00:32,880 --> 03:00:39,760
All in favor, please say I.

4324
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:43,439
» All oppose? No. That motion passes. And

4325
03:00:39,760 --> 03:00:46,160
we move to item six. Uh Valerie talked

4326
03:00:43,439 --> 03:00:49,120
with us about consider adopting a

4327
03:00:46,160 --> 03:00:53,120
resolution authorizing the transfer by

4328
03:00:49,120 --> 03:00:56,960
private sale of 91 Coral Drive Southwest

4329
03:00:53,120 --> 03:00:59,840
and 515 Honduras Street Northwest to

4330
03:00:56,960 --> 03:01:02,720
Habitat for Humanity of Cabaris County

4331
03:00:59,840 --> 03:01:06,160
Incorporated for the purpose of

4332
03:01:02,720 --> 03:01:09,439
development of affordable housing. Any

4333
03:01:06,160 --> 03:01:12,000
additional questions on that one? Uh

4334
03:01:09,439 --> 03:01:14,720
hearing none, I would entertain a motion

4335
03:01:12,000 --> 03:01:19,520
to adopt a resolution authorizing the

4336
03:01:14,720 --> 03:01:23,680
transfer of 91 Crow Drive Southwest and

4337
03:01:19,520 --> 03:01:25,920
515 Honduras Street Northwest to Habitat

4338
03:01:23,680 --> 03:01:28,160
for Humanity of Cabaris County

4339
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:30,640
Incorporated for the purpose of

4340
03:01:28,160 --> 03:01:33,520
development of affordable housing and

4341
03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:36,880
directing the city manager, city clerk,

4342
03:01:33,520 --> 03:01:39,760
and city attorney to take all necessary

4343
03:01:36,880 --> 03:01:42,479
steps and to execute ute the necessary

4344
03:01:39,760 --> 03:01:46,680
documents in order to affect the

4345
03:01:42,479 --> 03:01:46,680
conveyance of the property.

4346
03:01:47,040 --> 03:01:51,520
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

4347
03:01:49,760 --> 03:01:54,479
discussion?

4348
03:01:51,520 --> 03:01:59,040
All in favor, please say I.

4349
03:01:54,479 --> 03:02:01,840
» All oppose? No. That motion passes. Uh,

4350
03:01:59,040 --> 03:02:04,319
next Jackie talk with us about item

4351
03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:07,840
seven considering a preliminary

4352
03:02:04,319 --> 03:02:10,560
application from Daniel and I I'm sure I

4353
03:02:07,840 --> 03:02:12,319
pronounced this correctly. Sir, Sergey

4354
03:02:10,560 --> 03:02:14,080
Ser,

4355
03:02:12,319 --> 03:02:15,920
where is

4356
03:02:14,080 --> 03:02:18,240
» That's close enough. Okay, good, good,

4357
03:02:15,920 --> 03:02:22,399
good, good. So, does anybody have any

4358
03:02:18,240 --> 03:02:24,880
additional uh questions on that item? Uh

4359
03:02:22,399 --> 03:02:27,520
hearing none, I would entertain a motion

4360
03:02:24,880 --> 03:02:30,720
to accept the preliminary application

4361
03:02:27,520 --> 03:02:34,800
and have the owner proceed to the final

4362
03:02:30,720 --> 03:02:37,520
application phase excluding annexation.

4363
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:40,640
And this is for water service outside

4364
03:02:37,520 --> 03:02:41,279
city limits.

4365
03:02:40,640 --> 03:02:44,000
» Second.

4366
03:02:41,279 --> 03:02:46,160
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

4367
03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:48,800
discussion?

4368
03:02:46,160 --> 03:02:53,359
All in favor, please say I.

4369
03:02:48,800 --> 03:02:56,640
» All oppose? No. That motion passes. Uh,

4370
03:02:53,359 --> 03:02:58,880
next we move to item number eight, uh,

4371
03:02:56,640 --> 03:03:03,279
which I spoke about on Tuesday night,

4372
03:02:58,880 --> 03:03:05,600
and that is to appoint Carl Stuminger to

4373
03:03:03,279 --> 03:03:10,560
the atlarge vacancy on the public art

4374
03:03:05,600 --> 03:03:13,439
commission with the term ending 91029.

4375
03:03:10,560 --> 03:03:14,160
Uh, and I would entertain the motion to

4376
03:03:13,439 --> 03:03:16,000
do so.

4377
03:03:14,160 --> 03:03:17,200
» I'll make that motion, please.

4378
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:19,120
» I'll second.

4379
03:03:17,200 --> 03:03:21,920
» All right, we have a motion and a

4380
03:03:19,120 --> 03:03:24,479
second. Any discussion?

4381
03:03:21,920 --> 03:03:28,319
All in favor, please say I.

4382
03:03:24,479 --> 03:03:31,439
» All oppose? No. That motion passes. Uh

4383
03:03:28,319 --> 03:03:34,560
we move now to the consent agenda. Uh no

4384
03:03:31,439 --> 03:03:37,920
one has made me aware of any concern or

4385
03:03:34,560 --> 03:03:40,960
anything that anyone wanted to pull off.

4386
03:03:37,920 --> 03:03:46,279
Uh so I would entertain a motion to

4387
03:03:40,960 --> 03:03:46,279
approve the consent agenda as presented.

4388
03:03:47,920 --> 03:03:52,479
Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any

4389
03:03:50,960 --> 03:03:56,000
discussion?

4390
03:03:52,479 --> 03:04:00,560
Uh, all in favor, please say I.

4391
03:03:56,000 --> 03:04:03,920
All oppose? No. That motion passes. And

4392
03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:07,359
we move now to advisory boards and

4393
03:04:03,920 --> 03:04:11,560
partner reports. Uh, first up we have

4394
03:04:07,359 --> 03:04:11,560
Patrick from Web Build.

4395
03:04:18,640 --> 03:04:22,720
Welcome.

4396
03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:25,120
» Thank you. Good evening,

4397
03:04:22,720 --> 03:04:28,160
Mayor Morris,

4398
03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:32,960
to city council,

4399
03:04:28,160 --> 03:04:35,279
Mr. Pay, Miss Kinsky, Miss Jenkins.

4400
03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:36,880
I'm going to try to go through this as

4401
03:04:35,279 --> 03:04:40,680
quickly as possible. I know it's been a

4402
03:04:36,880 --> 03:04:40,680
long night for you all.

4403
03:04:42,560 --> 03:04:48,080
But I want to just draw your attention

4404
03:04:44,560 --> 03:04:51,040
to a couple of

4405
03:04:48,080 --> 03:04:54,000
of data points

4406
03:04:51,040 --> 03:04:58,720
from FY26. As you know that our fiscal

4407
03:04:54,000 --> 03:05:01,920
year like yours is from July 1 through

4408
03:04:58,720 --> 03:05:04,080
June 30th. And so what I'm about to

4409
03:05:01,920 --> 03:05:06,720
present you is also based on audited

4410
03:05:04,080 --> 03:05:08,960
numbers.

4411
03:05:06,720 --> 03:05:11,600
If you look on slide three, you'll see

4412
03:05:08,960 --> 03:05:14,880
that this year

4413
03:05:11,600 --> 03:05:18,960
we had 16 homes sold or under contract,

4414
03:05:14,880 --> 03:05:21,439
which resulted in $4.2 million of new

4415
03:05:18,960 --> 03:05:23,920
homeowner assets.

4416
03:05:21,439 --> 03:05:28,399
Those individuals now have those assets

4417
03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:31,040
in this community and they own them and

4418
03:05:28,399 --> 03:05:33,680
they are now taxpaying citizens of the

4419
03:05:31,040 --> 03:05:36,080
city of Concord.

4420
03:05:33,680 --> 03:05:39,600
The average We Build resident saves now

4421
03:05:36,080 --> 03:05:43,040
over $360 per month by living in or

4422
03:05:39,600 --> 03:05:46,720
owning a Wei Bill home. And so what we

4423
03:05:43,040 --> 03:05:48,479
do is that we compare where they were

4424
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:51,520
before they were placed in housing

4425
03:05:48,479 --> 03:05:54,960
either in rental or in ownership and

4426
03:05:51,520 --> 03:05:58,240
then look at where they are after

4427
03:05:54,960 --> 03:06:00,560
placement. So I'll give you an example.

4428
03:05:58,240 --> 03:06:06,399
Many of you attended

4429
03:06:00,560 --> 03:06:10,319
um two of our sisters who both at homes

4430
03:06:06,399 --> 03:06:13,359
live side by side. Well, she spends now

4431
03:06:10,319 --> 03:06:15,439
less than $1,000 a month all in on her

4432
03:06:13,359 --> 03:06:17,040
mortgage. That includes taxes and

4433
03:06:15,439 --> 03:06:20,000
everything.

4434
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:21,840
She was spending around $1250 for a

4435
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:23,840
onebedroom.

4436
03:06:21,840 --> 03:06:26,560
I remind you too that she was actually

4437
03:06:23,840 --> 03:06:29,920
having a child three days before

4438
03:06:26,560 --> 03:06:31,760
closing. Um that child was born and our

4439
03:06:29,920 --> 03:06:36,160
lawyers went over to the hospital and

4440
03:06:31,760 --> 03:06:39,600
did her closing there. Um but she's an

4441
03:06:36,160 --> 03:06:42,640
example of those type of savings that

4442
03:06:39,600 --> 03:06:44,319
come with um ownership but come with

4443
03:06:42,640 --> 03:06:46,960
affordability.

4444
03:06:44,319 --> 03:06:49,120
The average age of a we homeowner now is

4445
03:06:46,960 --> 03:06:51,760
36. That means through our entire

4446
03:06:49,120 --> 03:06:53,760
history. This is about four years

4447
03:06:51,760 --> 03:06:56,399
younger than the national average for a

4448
03:06:53,760 --> 03:06:59,760
firsttime home buyer. First-time home

4449
03:06:56,399 --> 03:07:02,000
buyers are averaging about 40 years old.

4450
03:06:59,760 --> 03:07:05,200
And as of FY26,

4451
03:07:02,000 --> 03:07:07,920
we have built 55 homes with 27 under

4452
03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:10,920
development and several prospective

4453
03:07:07,920 --> 03:07:10,920
developments.

4454
03:07:11,279 --> 03:07:18,479
Economic impacts.

4455
03:07:14,399 --> 03:07:21,200
During FY26, over 240 employees worked

4456
03:07:18,479 --> 03:07:24,560
at Web Build sites. This is confirmed

4457
03:07:21,200 --> 03:07:27,600
through the subcontractors themselves.

4458
03:07:24,560 --> 03:07:30,479
FY26, the overall economic impact of

4459
03:07:27,600 --> 03:07:33,600
projects and housing developments was

4460
03:07:30,479 --> 03:07:35,040
15.2 million according to the formulas

4461
03:07:33,600 --> 03:07:36,800
of the National Homebuilders

4462
03:07:35,040 --> 03:07:38,399
Association.

4463
03:07:36,800 --> 03:07:40,800
So

4464
03:07:38,399 --> 03:07:42,880
what this really equates to is for

4465
03:07:40,800 --> 03:07:47,279
example the city your investment last

4466
03:07:42,880 --> 03:07:49,600
year of 1.8 million actually uh equals

4467
03:07:47,279 --> 03:07:53,520
about 15.2 two, which means for every

4468
03:07:49,600 --> 03:07:56,399
dollar that you invest, $845

4469
03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:58,160
goes out in economic development.

4470
03:07:56,399 --> 03:08:00,720
And this is one of the ways that we

4471
03:07:58,160 --> 03:08:04,960
measure our return on investment. Uh

4472
03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:07,600
when we are trying to develop housing

4473
03:08:04,960 --> 03:08:10,399
and over the last three years, we build

4474
03:08:07,600 --> 03:08:14,359
developed, sold, or held over $28

4475
03:08:10,399 --> 03:08:14,359
million in assets.

4476
03:08:14,720 --> 03:08:18,359
Neighborhood impact

4477
03:08:21,359 --> 03:08:29,520
In FY26, over 50% of new we homeowners

4478
03:08:25,920 --> 03:08:32,399
are 33 years old or younger, creating

4479
03:08:29,520 --> 03:08:35,359
new generations for neighborhoods.

4480
03:08:32,399 --> 03:08:37,439
I think that's very important

4481
03:08:35,359 --> 03:08:40,960
uh given the fact that it's becoming

4482
03:08:37,439 --> 03:08:43,600
very hard for young people to own.

4483
03:08:40,960 --> 03:08:45,200
But this year, our average over 50% of

4484
03:08:43,600 --> 03:08:47,279
our homeowners actually were under the

4485
03:08:45,200 --> 03:08:49,040
age of 33.

4486
03:08:47,279 --> 03:08:51,200
Lincoln Street Town Homes and the

4487
03:08:49,040 --> 03:08:54,479
Sanctuary. And I want to thank you all,

4488
03:08:51,200 --> 03:08:56,800
many of you who attended uh that opening

4489
03:08:54,479 --> 03:09:00,000
influence new development in the Logan

4490
03:08:56,800 --> 03:09:02,240
and Gibson neighborhoods.

4491
03:09:00,000 --> 03:09:04,880
When I was at Lincoln Street a few weeks

4492
03:09:02,240 --> 03:09:07,680
ago, gentleman across the street was

4493
03:09:04,880 --> 03:09:11,600
building some town homes. Um I believe

4494
03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:14,160
it's one of the workers made the comment

4495
03:09:11,600 --> 03:09:17,120
um when he found out who I was and when

4496
03:09:14,160 --> 03:09:19,040
I approached them that a lot of their

4497
03:09:17,120 --> 03:09:20,800
decision was also made by the fact that

4498
03:09:19,040 --> 03:09:23,439
they saw the Lincoln Street town homes

4499
03:09:20,800 --> 03:09:26,160
there that they had this desire but

4500
03:09:23,439 --> 03:09:28,080
decided they would move forward

4501
03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:31,200
um with it because they saw a new

4502
03:09:28,080 --> 03:09:34,080
development in that community. So I

4503
03:09:31,200 --> 03:09:36,960
think that that's an important part. So,

4504
03:09:34,080 --> 03:09:38,800
as you probably noted at the beginning

4505
03:09:36,960 --> 03:09:40,479
on our first side slide, we're talking

4506
03:09:38,800 --> 03:09:43,120
about building people, but we're also

4507
03:09:40,479 --> 03:09:45,840
talking about reimagining neighborhoods.

4508
03:09:43,120 --> 03:09:47,920
How you reimagine them and with the

4509
03:09:45,840 --> 03:09:50,960
upcoming developments like the cottages

4510
03:09:47,920 --> 03:09:53,680
at Corbin. We build would create greater

4511
03:09:50,960 --> 03:09:55,840
access and be beautify corridors to

4512
03:09:53,680 --> 03:09:57,359
downtown Concord.

4513
03:09:55,840 --> 03:10:00,560
want you to think about the fact if you

4514
03:09:57,359 --> 03:10:02,240
go down church street

4515
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:04,800
it tells you something as you're coming

4516
03:10:02,240 --> 03:10:06,640
into downtown Concord right is a

4517
03:10:04,800 --> 03:10:10,560
business court

4518
03:10:06,640 --> 03:10:12,800
you see that if you come down Union

4519
03:10:10,560 --> 03:10:17,920
it gives you a sense of grander old

4520
03:10:12,800 --> 03:10:20,479
Concord larger homes canopies of trees

4521
03:10:17,920 --> 03:10:22,880
right into the center of downtown but

4522
03:10:20,479 --> 03:10:25,120
when you come down Corbett

4523
03:10:22,880 --> 03:10:27,040
into downtown it doesn't have that same

4524
03:10:25,120 --> 03:10:31,520
view.

4525
03:10:27,040 --> 03:10:34,319
And so this project, I feel, will begin

4526
03:10:31,520 --> 03:10:36,800
the beginning of changing how that

4527
03:10:34,319 --> 03:10:40,479
corridor looks as you're entering into

4528
03:10:36,800 --> 03:10:42,479
it. I think what's more important or

4529
03:10:40,479 --> 03:10:45,279
just as important is that the people

4530
03:10:42,479 --> 03:10:47,120
that will live there will be within

4531
03:10:45,279 --> 03:10:49,920
walking distance of economic

4532
03:10:47,120 --> 03:10:53,040
development, of amenities,

4533
03:10:49,920 --> 03:10:55,120
of things that they can enjoy. And I

4534
03:10:53,040 --> 03:10:57,120
think that that's important when we talk

4535
03:10:55,120 --> 03:10:58,880
about affordability.

4536
03:10:57,120 --> 03:11:02,800
People need to have access to some

4537
03:10:58,880 --> 03:11:04,880
things um to even the playing field a

4538
03:11:02,800 --> 03:11:07,040
little bit for them too and give them

4539
03:11:04,880 --> 03:11:10,840
opportunities. And so that's what this

4540
03:11:07,040 --> 03:11:10,840
development can do.

4541
03:11:11,120 --> 03:11:17,120
We have some current projects as well.

4542
03:11:13,439 --> 03:11:22,960
So, we are as of next week, you will see

4543
03:11:17,120 --> 03:11:24,640
from us a um RFP come out for the Malurn

4544
03:11:22,960 --> 03:11:26,319
subdivision. So, those will be four

4545
03:11:24,640 --> 03:11:28,160
homes. These are homes that you are

4546
03:11:26,319 --> 03:11:32,240
familiar with because we've used them

4547
03:11:28,160 --> 03:11:34,960
before. Um

4548
03:11:32,240 --> 03:11:36,640
I like to call the first one um they

4549
03:11:34,960 --> 03:11:39,680
call it the curb plan. I always call it

4550
03:11:36,640 --> 03:11:41,279
the Sheree. Uh Sheree Allen lives in

4551
03:11:39,680 --> 03:11:43,520
that home. [laughter]

4552
03:11:41,279 --> 03:11:45,120
And the other one's called the Phoenix.

4553
03:11:43,520 --> 03:11:47,520
And that's only because it was the first

4554
03:11:45,120 --> 03:11:50,800
home we ever built and it was on

4555
03:11:47,520 --> 03:11:55,520
Finenix. So we call it the Phoenix. Um

4556
03:11:50,800 --> 03:11:59,279
and so you'll have the two Phoenix and

4557
03:11:55,520 --> 03:12:01,760
two Shares on the book ends. And we will

4558
03:11:59,279 --> 03:12:04,640
also take some of the old brick from the

4559
03:12:01,760 --> 03:12:07,200
existing structure that's there and do a

4560
03:12:04,640 --> 03:12:10,319
small monument to what was there to tell

4561
03:12:07,200 --> 03:12:13,319
some history around that um form of

4562
03:12:10,319 --> 03:12:13,319
development.

4563
03:12:14,240 --> 03:12:20,080
Cottages at Corbin.

4564
03:12:17,279 --> 03:12:22,160
I think what you'll notice most about um

4565
03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:24,399
these is that they're slightly bigger

4566
03:12:22,160 --> 03:12:28,160
than tiny homes. They are cottages. What

4567
03:12:24,399 --> 03:12:31,359
I what I think is also interesting is

4568
03:12:28,160 --> 03:12:34,800
that folks who buy homes under 1,200

4569
03:12:31,359 --> 03:12:38,560
square feet about 41% of them are for

4570
03:12:34,800 --> 03:12:41,040
under the age of 40 40 and under. But on

4571
03:12:38,560 --> 03:12:45,040
the flip side of that the next group

4572
03:12:41,040 --> 03:12:48,000
around 39% are actually over 50. So we

4573
03:12:45,040 --> 03:12:51,359
have the opportunity to create also an

4574
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:54,240
intergenerational mix um in a community

4575
03:12:51,359 --> 03:12:56,720
like that and again change the corridor

4576
03:12:54,240 --> 03:12:58,960
and you can see

4577
03:12:56,720 --> 03:13:02,160
um what they look like. So this first

4578
03:12:58,960 --> 03:13:04,240
one it's around 820 square ft and that

4579
03:13:02,160 --> 03:13:06,800
is there'll be two of those flats. They

4580
03:13:04,240 --> 03:13:08,800
will be 88 compliant.

4581
03:13:06,800 --> 03:13:11,120
Um, and you can see they come with very

4582
03:13:08,800 --> 03:13:12,960
open floor plans.

4583
03:13:11,120 --> 03:13:16,319
And it's amazing what you can do when

4584
03:13:12,960 --> 03:13:18,720
you change floor plans in a place um

4585
03:13:16,319 --> 03:13:22,640
that size. I was actually surprised how

4586
03:13:18,720 --> 03:13:24,800
many cottages we actually have already

4587
03:13:22,640 --> 03:13:28,479
in Concord.

4588
03:13:24,800 --> 03:13:31,920
And then the other is a twostory. And

4589
03:13:28,479 --> 03:13:37,200
you can see how that looks. um very

4590
03:13:31,920 --> 03:13:40,479
attractive plan uh that comes with um a

4591
03:13:37,200 --> 03:13:44,000
porch both lower and upper.

4592
03:13:40,479 --> 03:13:47,279
Um and what I like about it too is that

4593
03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:49,920
it also provides an open plan. You see

4594
03:13:47,279 --> 03:13:51,600
where the two bedrooms are upstairs. So

4595
03:13:49,920 --> 03:13:54,319
this will be the first to really test

4596
03:13:51,600 --> 03:13:56,800
that ordinance. I'm actually happy to

4597
03:13:54,319 --> 03:13:58,880
see some of the changes too. It does

4598
03:13:56,800 --> 03:14:02,479
help us a little bit with with a site

4599
03:13:58,880 --> 03:14:05,120
like that. Um, and so there's some other

4600
03:14:02,479 --> 03:14:07,040
things that we want to talk about uh

4601
03:14:05,120 --> 03:14:10,720
within Lord. I'd like to reach out to

4602
03:14:07,040 --> 03:14:12,880
you about that development.

4603
03:14:10,720 --> 03:14:14,880
And we have some others in the mills.

4604
03:14:12,880 --> 03:14:17,840
There's four homes. Uh we're trying to

4605
03:14:14,880 --> 03:14:20,479
decide on how those would look. So we're

4606
03:14:17,840 --> 03:14:23,040
currently looking um around some of our

4607
03:14:20,479 --> 03:14:26,160
current uh developments as well as

4608
03:14:23,040 --> 03:14:28,319
architecture. The Weddington Town Homes

4609
03:14:26,160 --> 03:14:30,560
should be closing soon. And if you

4610
03:14:28,319 --> 03:14:34,080
remember, that's a development, a

4611
03:14:30,560 --> 03:14:37,520
private developer who um provided eight

4612
03:14:34,080 --> 03:14:40,800
uh of those lots at no cost. And of

4613
03:14:37,520 --> 03:14:43,120
course, it also helps us sort of um

4614
03:14:40,800 --> 03:14:47,200
place affordability in areas that

4615
03:14:43,120 --> 03:14:49,920
normally don't have it. Um popular tent

4616
03:14:47,200 --> 03:14:52,479
will be our first metal home. Remember

4617
03:14:49,920 --> 03:14:56,399
that this originally was going to be the

4618
03:14:52,479 --> 03:15:00,479
site that we were going to take the home

4619
03:14:56,399 --> 03:15:02,399
at Ramser, the Rams home that if you

4620
03:15:00,479 --> 03:15:04,160
remember contractually was supposed to

4621
03:15:02,399 --> 03:15:06,399
be the home that we would use as a

4622
03:15:04,160 --> 03:15:09,359
development project and those proceeds

4623
03:15:06,399 --> 03:15:11,680
would go towards Corbin.

4624
03:15:09,359 --> 03:15:13,040
We are still going to honor that. So,

4625
03:15:11,680 --> 03:15:15,760
we're just doing it with a different

4626
03:15:13,040 --> 03:15:19,279
building or a different structure. Um,

4627
03:15:15,760 --> 03:15:21,439
we were also able to get that property

4628
03:15:19,279 --> 03:15:23,920
as well as the mills through private

4629
03:15:21,439 --> 03:15:28,160
partnerships at

4630
03:15:23,920 --> 03:15:29,760
50,000 for all five lots.

4631
03:15:28,160 --> 03:15:31,760
Other single family homes that are

4632
03:15:29,760 --> 03:15:34,640
coming and of course the repositioning

4633
03:15:31,760 --> 03:15:37,040
project we still have reserved are 1

4634
03:15:34,640 --> 03:15:40,239
million. And

4635
03:15:37,040 --> 03:15:44,960
why I think that's important

4636
03:15:40,239 --> 03:15:46,880
is that I want to remind us

4637
03:15:44,960 --> 03:15:49,680
that we bill is your sister

4638
03:15:46,880 --> 03:15:53,359
organization.

4639
03:15:49,680 --> 03:15:56,720
We are actually on your audit

4640
03:15:53,359 --> 03:15:59,600
which is important to remember.

4641
03:15:56,720 --> 03:16:02,720
We are um

4642
03:15:59,600 --> 03:16:04,800
here to also look out

4643
03:16:02,720 --> 03:16:07,760
as an organization even for the interest

4644
03:16:04,800 --> 03:16:11,120
of the city.

4645
03:16:07,760 --> 03:16:15,439
One of the reasons um

4646
03:16:11,120 --> 03:16:19,279
that we came up with the idea to have a

4647
03:16:15,439 --> 03:16:20,960
policy around private developers that

4648
03:16:19,279 --> 03:16:25,359
when they say they would build something

4649
03:16:20,960 --> 03:16:27,359
affordable too, right? There's sometimes

4650
03:16:25,359 --> 03:16:30,080
not a real way for you to enforce it if

4651
03:16:27,359 --> 03:16:33,040
they reig,

4652
03:16:30,080 --> 03:16:37,279
but we can and we've done that through

4653
03:16:33,040 --> 03:16:39,520
contracts already. But it wasn't because

4654
03:16:37,279 --> 03:16:43,040
we wanted land from them. That's

4655
03:16:39,520 --> 03:16:46,399
actually a nice second thing to come

4656
03:16:43,040 --> 03:16:49,120
along with it. It was because we felt we

4657
03:16:46,399 --> 03:16:51,920
had to find a way to protect the city

4658
03:16:49,120 --> 03:16:54,399
itself.

4659
03:16:51,920 --> 03:16:57,399
Why? because we're your sister

4660
03:16:54,399 --> 03:16:57,399
organization.

4661
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:01,840
We're probably the only nonprofit, too,

4662
03:17:00,000 --> 03:17:04,399
that finds a way to get a million

4663
03:17:01,840 --> 03:17:06,560
dollars back to you. Do you know how

4664
03:17:04,399 --> 03:17:08,960
that came about?

4665
03:17:06,560 --> 03:17:11,760
Came about because

4666
03:17:08,960 --> 03:17:14,399
when you had some earmarks

4667
03:17:11,760 --> 03:17:16,720
from Congress,

4668
03:17:14,399 --> 03:17:19,520
they wouldn't allow the city to access

4669
03:17:16,720 --> 03:17:21,600
some of that.

4670
03:17:19,520 --> 03:17:24,640
So we said we can use some of that for

4671
03:17:21,600 --> 03:17:27,520
affordable development,

4672
03:17:24,640 --> 03:17:29,600
but we can also

4673
03:17:27,520 --> 03:17:32,399
work some of it back to the city for the

4674
03:17:29,600 --> 03:17:35,040
same purpose.

4675
03:17:32,399 --> 03:17:36,720
That's how that came about. And when

4676
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:38,560
things sort of took a little bit longer,

4677
03:17:36,720 --> 03:17:41,920
what we said was, well, we'll take a

4678
03:17:38,560 --> 03:17:45,120
loan out on Kerr

4679
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:47,840
and go ahead and proceed to use those

4680
03:17:45,120 --> 03:17:50,000
funds somewhere else, but still honor

4681
03:17:47,840 --> 03:17:54,040
the commitment. And now it will come

4682
03:17:50,000 --> 03:17:54,040
with no strings at all.

4683
03:17:54,880 --> 03:17:59,840
We have never stopped

4684
03:17:57,600 --> 03:18:02,720
knowing who we are and what our

4685
03:17:59,840 --> 03:18:06,840
relationship is.

4686
03:18:02,720 --> 03:18:06,840
I have never forgot that.

4687
03:18:07,040 --> 03:18:13,840
So, as we move forward in fiscal year

4688
03:18:10,960 --> 03:18:17,520
27,

4689
03:18:13,840 --> 03:18:19,680
we're going to make land acquisition and

4690
03:18:17,520 --> 03:18:23,040
rehab properties

4691
03:18:19,680 --> 03:18:25,200
a priority for us because now we are

4692
03:18:23,040 --> 03:18:28,319
getting close to where we will be

4693
03:18:25,200 --> 03:18:30,880
running out of land for projects and

4694
03:18:28,319 --> 03:18:33,760
this environment is very tough to find

4695
03:18:30,880 --> 03:18:37,520
land. So, we're going to be needing some

4696
03:18:33,760 --> 03:18:39,279
support with you there. Single family

4697
03:18:37,520 --> 03:18:42,479
home developments, we've heard it loud

4698
03:18:39,279 --> 03:18:44,479
and clear. Um, we're going to slow down

4699
03:18:42,479 --> 03:18:46,160
on town homes. We've been actually

4700
03:18:44,479 --> 03:18:48,880
approached about town homes with private

4701
03:18:46,160 --> 03:18:50,399
developers and we influence one so far

4702
03:18:48,880 --> 03:18:51,920
to change the whole plan to single

4703
03:18:50,399 --> 03:18:54,000
family and then we can approach you

4704
03:18:51,920 --> 03:18:56,720
together. So we are going to go into

4705
03:18:54,000 --> 03:19:00,080
single family currently and we would

4706
03:18:56,720 --> 03:19:02,880
like to also look at some mixed use

4707
03:19:00,080 --> 03:19:04,560
development

4708
03:19:02,880 --> 03:19:07,120
identify private partnerships for

4709
03:19:04,560 --> 03:19:10,000
lowincome housing tax credits or other

4710
03:19:07,120 --> 03:19:11,760
models. We've had some conversation we

4711
03:19:10,000 --> 03:19:14,160
want to increase the visibility of the

4712
03:19:11,760 --> 03:19:16,720
North Carolina that missing an there

4713
03:19:14,160 --> 03:19:19,439
community land trust coalition. One of

4714
03:19:16,720 --> 03:19:24,239
the things that we helped do is do do is

4715
03:19:19,439 --> 03:19:28,560
that we co-led the starting of a new

4716
03:19:24,239 --> 03:19:31,439
statewide organization around land trust

4717
03:19:28,560 --> 03:19:34,319
to help with permanent affordability

4718
03:19:31,439 --> 03:19:38,479
not just in urban areas but also in

4719
03:19:34,319 --> 03:19:41,840
suburban and rural areas. Um and we feel

4720
03:19:38,479 --> 03:19:43,520
that that can bring some resource back

4721
03:19:41,840 --> 03:19:46,080
to

4722
03:19:43,520 --> 03:19:48,560
Concord and Cabaris and revolving fund

4723
03:19:46,080 --> 03:19:50,160
and housing development campaign. We'll

4724
03:19:48,560 --> 03:19:52,800
be making an announcement during the

4725
03:19:50,160 --> 03:19:56,160
annual breakfast. We have a supporter

4726
03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:57,680
now who will be helping us run a

4727
03:19:56,160 --> 03:20:00,720
campaign

4728
03:19:57,680 --> 03:20:04,319
uh to raise even more dollars for what

4729
03:20:00,720 --> 03:20:06,479
is very important,

4730
03:20:04,319 --> 03:20:10,960
hardest thing that we deal with. so that

4731
03:20:06,479 --> 03:20:14,319
you know is when you're trying to build

4732
03:20:10,960 --> 03:20:17,359
homes that are permanent.

4733
03:20:14,319 --> 03:20:19,840
Can't just do them in one place.

4734
03:20:17,359 --> 03:20:22,720
They're going to be all over and they

4735
03:20:19,840 --> 03:20:25,439
all can't look the same

4736
03:20:22,720 --> 03:20:27,279
because communities have different

4737
03:20:25,439 --> 03:20:30,160
taste.

4738
03:20:27,279 --> 03:20:32,080
They have different aspirations.

4739
03:20:30,160 --> 03:20:34,720
And we believe in what we call a seven

4740
03:20:32,080 --> 03:20:36,800
touch rule. If we touch you seven times,

4741
03:20:34,720 --> 03:20:40,239
that tells us something about you, what

4742
03:20:36,800 --> 03:20:43,279
the desires are, and we do that. So,

4743
03:20:40,239 --> 03:20:45,279
we'll be approaching you for

4744
03:20:43,279 --> 03:20:47,920
uh financial support as well as for

4745
03:20:45,279 --> 03:20:50,080
partnerships around some of these type

4746
03:20:47,920 --> 03:20:52,880
of developments

4747
03:20:50,080 --> 03:20:56,239
because we have a lot in front of us and

4748
03:20:52,880 --> 03:20:58,399
we're moving pretty fast. 55 homes

4749
03:20:56,239 --> 03:21:02,160
actually in three years. We almost made

4750
03:20:58,399 --> 03:21:03,840
it to that 20 a year. Um, and I want us

4751
03:21:02,160 --> 03:21:05,680
to keep pressing that because at the end

4752
03:21:03,840 --> 03:21:07,200
of the day,

4753
03:21:05,680 --> 03:21:09,120
um,

4754
03:21:07,200 --> 03:21:11,920
we can't do it at two and three homes a

4755
03:21:09,120 --> 03:21:14,160
time if we're going to make a dent in

4756
03:21:11,920 --> 03:21:17,840
this issue. We're going to have to find

4757
03:21:14,160 --> 03:21:20,080
a way to increase it um, more and more.

4758
03:21:17,840 --> 03:21:22,640
So, with that, if you have any questions

4759
03:21:20,080 --> 03:21:25,600
for me, um, I know you got to be tired

4760
03:21:22,640 --> 03:21:26,000
by now. I am, too. I've been up since 5.

4761
03:21:25,600 --> 03:21:28,080
Um,

4762
03:21:26,000 --> 03:21:29,600
» But I'm hanging there with you. I don't

4763
03:21:28,080 --> 03:21:31,439
have any questions and I want to make it

4764
03:21:29,600 --> 03:21:32,880
quick because I equally know some people

4765
03:21:31,439 --> 03:21:36,479
here and it's probably past their

4766
03:21:32,880 --> 03:21:38,800
bedtime just like mine. But um I just

4767
03:21:36,479 --> 03:21:40,960
want to say I see all the stats and all

4768
03:21:38,800 --> 03:21:44,479
the numbers that you consistently bring

4769
03:21:40,960 --> 03:21:46,640
before this council and it's amazing,

4770
03:21:44,479 --> 03:21:49,600
impressive, but I also feel honored that

4771
03:21:46,640 --> 03:21:52,080
one the council before me has actively

4772
03:21:49,600 --> 03:21:54,000
participated in ensuring that there's

4773
03:21:52,080 --> 03:21:55,680
adequate housing for all of our

4774
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:57,359
residents and just the active

4775
03:21:55,680 --> 03:22:00,640
participation now to know that that's

4776
03:21:57,359 --> 03:22:02,479
still of support. I am humbled to even

4777
03:22:00,640 --> 03:22:05,359
know the the stats and that we are

4778
03:22:02,479 --> 03:22:07,359
actually superseding national averages

4779
03:22:05,359 --> 03:22:09,359
and that shows the work that you have

4780
03:22:07,359 --> 03:22:11,439
done that your team has done but also

4781
03:22:09,359 --> 03:22:15,200
the commitment of the community in which

4782
03:22:11,439 --> 03:22:17,680
you are in and to me what I see that as

4783
03:22:15,200 --> 03:22:20,160
it's a possibility for Concord to even

4784
03:22:17,680 --> 03:22:22,239
become a model at the national level and

4785
03:22:20,160 --> 03:22:24,560
to be able to showcase what are the

4786
03:22:22,239 --> 03:22:27,520
success points what is it doing in order

4787
03:22:24,560 --> 03:22:28,960
to to have younger homeowners because a

4788
03:22:27,520 --> 03:22:31,359
lot of people that is their path

4789
03:22:28,960 --> 03:22:33,680
pathway. That is their dream to become a

4790
03:22:31,359 --> 03:22:36,319
homeowner. So, I'm incredibly proud of

4791
03:22:33,680 --> 03:22:37,840
you and what's been done and I really

4792
03:22:36,319 --> 03:22:40,239
look forward to the continuous

4793
03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:42,160
commitment and I'm sure whichever the

4794
03:22:40,239 --> 03:22:44,160
discussion you're you're going to have

4795
03:22:42,160 --> 03:22:45,920
uh our leader as the mayor of this

4796
03:22:44,160 --> 03:22:48,640
council, he'll make sure to have that

4797
03:22:45,920 --> 03:22:50,880
with you. But I'm just I'm just proud to

4798
03:22:48,640 --> 03:22:53,439
have an organization like we build as

4799
03:22:50,880 --> 03:22:56,160
part of our community. I thank you for

4800
03:22:53,439 --> 03:22:58,160
that and I also thank you all for your

4801
03:22:56,160 --> 03:23:01,200
support

4802
03:22:58,160 --> 03:23:03,600
as you said being a model we are

4803
03:23:01,200 --> 03:23:07,120
speaking at four conferences between

4804
03:23:03,600 --> 03:23:10,080
September and October one more in

4805
03:23:07,120 --> 03:23:13,680
November actually that's five on this

4806
03:23:10,080 --> 03:23:17,040
model our land trust um and that's

4807
03:23:13,680 --> 03:23:19,040
because of your support it's because of

4808
03:23:17,040 --> 03:23:23,040
this community

4809
03:23:19,040 --> 03:23:26,720
and if you look over the last six months

4810
03:23:23,040 --> 03:23:28,720
We have been in the news

4811
03:23:26,720 --> 03:23:31,439
more than any of the larger developments

4812
03:23:28,720 --> 03:23:33,600
even in Charlotte for the work that's

4813
03:23:31,439 --> 03:23:36,560
going on here. I had one reporter tell

4814
03:23:33,600 --> 03:23:40,239
me about Kur Street. He said it's the

4815
03:23:36,560 --> 03:23:42,479
smallest biggest development I've seen

4816
03:23:40,239 --> 03:23:46,239
because of the attention that it

4817
03:23:42,479 --> 03:23:50,399
garnered. And that's because of you all

4818
03:23:46,239 --> 03:23:52,640
in in the imagination of a town that is

4819
03:23:50,399 --> 03:23:55,520
um big enough to make a little noise but

4820
03:23:52,640 --> 03:23:58,760
yet small enough to to pivot and make

4821
03:23:55,520 --> 03:23:58,760
some moves.

4822
03:23:59,760 --> 03:24:03,840
» Well, thank you all.

4823
03:24:01,040 --> 03:24:08,160
» Yes, sir. Thank you.

4824
03:24:03,840 --> 03:24:10,640
Okay, we are happy to have Brad Stevens

4825
03:24:08,160 --> 03:24:13,120
from the Public Art Commission who has

4826
03:24:10,640 --> 03:24:16,000
very patiently hung in here with us and

4827
03:24:13,120 --> 03:24:19,840
probably didn't anticipate speaking

4828
03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:22,160
quite this late, but welcome.

4829
03:24:19,840 --> 03:24:24,080
» It's okay. Uh, thank you very much. Uh,

4830
03:24:22,160 --> 03:24:26,399
good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of

4831
03:24:24,080 --> 03:24:28,479
council. Good evening, Miss Mr. Payne,

4832
03:24:26,399 --> 03:24:30,800
Miss uh, Miss Kazinski, and Miss

4833
03:24:28,479 --> 03:24:32,880
Jenkins. Again, my name is Brad Stevens.

4834
03:24:30,800 --> 03:24:35,439
the new um chairman of the public arts

4835
03:24:32,880 --> 03:24:37,600
commission. And um before I get started

4836
03:24:35,439 --> 03:24:39,840
on our little update, uh I want to thank

4837
03:24:37,600 --> 03:24:41,840
Doyle Jussi who has um had this role

4838
03:24:39,840 --> 03:24:44,560
previously uh for the past three years.

4839
03:24:41,840 --> 03:24:48,239
So incredible job that he has done. I'll

4840
03:24:44,560 --> 03:24:50,800
be quick as I can as I go through this.

4841
03:24:48,239 --> 03:24:53,600
Uh want to talk about our uh recent bus

4842
03:24:50,800 --> 03:24:56,160
wrap project. Um this was a successful

4843
03:24:53,600 --> 03:24:58,479
installation and completion of uh buses

4844
03:24:56,160 --> 03:25:00,960
for three three buses that are now um

4845
03:24:58,479 --> 03:25:03,200
actively running around the city. Um,

4846
03:25:00,960 --> 03:25:05,600
these were three Concord artists that

4847
03:25:03,200 --> 03:25:08,720
were selected for this. Um, there's been

4848
03:25:05,600 --> 03:25:10,479
a great um, positive social media

4849
03:25:08,720 --> 03:25:13,120
presence and and social media response

4850
03:25:10,479 --> 03:25:15,680
for these. So, we're excited to uh to

4851
03:25:13,120 --> 03:25:17,439
see that and to to have that momentum.

4852
03:25:15,680 --> 03:25:19,120
U, and we're commission right now

4853
03:25:17,439 --> 03:25:21,840
exploring some possible little

4854
03:25:19,120 --> 03:25:23,760
recognition for those artist. Uh, still

4855
03:25:21,840 --> 03:25:25,600
TBD. Um, but we'll send you an update

4856
03:25:23,760 --> 03:25:27,760
once that happens.

4857
03:25:25,600 --> 03:25:31,120
Uh we're also looking at our uh our

4858
03:25:27,760 --> 03:25:32,399
fiscal year 27 budget. Um we've we've

4859
03:25:31,120 --> 03:25:34,880
got some items that we've sort of

4860
03:25:32,399 --> 03:25:37,200
delineated out um including art artist

4861
03:25:34,880 --> 03:25:39,040
stipens and installation for the new

4862
03:25:37,200 --> 03:25:41,920
signal box project which I'll talk about

4863
03:25:39,040 --> 03:25:45,840
here in a moment. Um also um

4864
03:25:41,920 --> 03:25:48,560
continuation of the um the

4865
03:25:45,840 --> 03:25:51,040
sculptures on um the Union Street u the

4866
03:25:48,560 --> 03:25:52,399
streetscape which is a two-year term. Um

4867
03:25:51,040 --> 03:25:54,960
there's a contest that will run this

4868
03:25:52,399 --> 03:25:57,920
fall and so there's a there's a budget

4869
03:25:54,960 --> 03:26:00,399
line item for that as well. Also one new

4870
03:25:57,920 --> 03:26:03,040
uh mural whose location is still to be

4871
03:26:00,399 --> 03:26:04,560
determined. Uh we have yet to vote on

4872
03:26:03,040 --> 03:26:08,359
the final budget that will take place in

4873
03:26:04,560 --> 03:26:08,359
our September meeting.

4874
03:26:08,880 --> 03:26:14,640
Moving on to the signal box wraps. Um so

4875
03:26:12,640 --> 03:26:16,880
so if for anyone's not familiar we're we

4876
03:26:14,640 --> 03:26:19,920
have a project where we're um recruiting

4877
03:26:16,880 --> 03:26:23,439
artists to to wrap projects uh wrap uh

4878
03:26:19,920 --> 03:26:26,399
excuse me signal boxes across the city.

4879
03:26:23,439 --> 03:26:28,160
Uh we have 10 locations selected. Seven

4880
03:26:26,399 --> 03:26:31,680
of them are representative from each

4881
03:26:28,160 --> 03:26:34,720
district as well as three uh where that

4882
03:26:31,680 --> 03:26:36,560
are specific to school sites. So we have

4883
03:26:34,720 --> 03:26:38,640
um and we're working to partner with

4884
03:26:36,560 --> 03:26:40,880
right now Arbrell Mallister, Central

4885
03:26:38,640 --> 03:26:42,399
Cabaris, and West Cabaris to potentially

4886
03:26:40,880 --> 03:26:46,720
partner with their art departments to

4887
03:26:42,399 --> 03:26:49,120
wrap those specific u signal boxes. Um

4888
03:26:46,720 --> 03:26:51,439
let's see. Right now we have um an

4889
03:26:49,120 --> 03:26:53,040
artist selection committee established

4890
03:26:51,439 --> 03:26:54,640
um that includes three members of

4891
03:26:53,040 --> 03:26:58,000
council. So look forward to working with

4892
03:26:54,640 --> 03:27:00,160
you guys on that. Um we have over 50

4893
03:26:58,000 --> 03:27:01,680
plus artists from Concord and

4894
03:27:00,160 --> 03:27:04,960
surrounding areas that have submitted

4895
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:07,040
designs um and will be um we'll be

4896
03:27:04,960 --> 03:27:10,160
making that decision over the course of

4897
03:27:07,040 --> 03:27:12,000
September and um installation I believe

4898
03:27:10,160 --> 03:27:15,800
happens over the course of the next

4899
03:27:12,000 --> 03:27:15,800
following months after that.

4900
03:27:16,399 --> 03:27:19,720
» Any questions?

4901
03:27:20,479 --> 03:27:24,239
» All right. Thank you very much.

4902
03:27:22,080 --> 03:27:26,399
» Thank you very much. We appreciate you

4903
03:27:24,239 --> 03:27:29,359
being with us tonight.

4904
03:27:26,399 --> 03:27:31,279
Okay. Does anybody have any general

4905
03:27:29,359 --> 03:27:35,479
comments

4906
03:27:31,279 --> 03:27:35,479
that they would like to make?

4907
03:27:37,840 --> 03:27:41,840
» That was a heavy lift on that one. And I

4908
03:27:40,560 --> 03:27:43,840
I don't know if that was your first one,

4909
03:27:41,840 --> 03:27:45,840
but you did well and every person that I

4910
03:27:43,840 --> 03:27:49,439
talked to that talked to you loved you.

4911
03:27:45,840 --> 03:27:53,279
So, thank you. Professionalism is key

4912
03:27:49,439 --> 03:27:56,880
when emotions are high.

4913
03:27:53,279 --> 03:28:00,160
» Great. We do have need of a close

4914
03:27:56,880 --> 03:28:03,359
session tonight. So, at this time, I

4915
03:28:00,160 --> 03:28:06,479
would entertain a motion that we go into

4916
03:28:03,359 --> 03:28:10,000
close session pursuant to North Carolina

4917
03:28:06,479 --> 03:28:12,800
General Statute 143-

4918
03:28:10,000 --> 03:28:17,040
318.11

4919
03:28:12,800 --> 03:28:20,080
A4 and 6 in order to discuss the

4920
03:28:17,040 --> 03:28:22,479
location or expansion of industries or

4921
03:28:20,080 --> 03:28:26,600
other businesses in the area served by

4922
03:28:22,479 --> 03:28:26,600
this public body.

4923
03:28:33,760 --> 03:28:39,040
So, we have a motion.

4924
03:28:36,800 --> 03:28:41,359
» We have a second.

4925
03:28:39,040 --> 03:28:44,080
Uh, any discussion?

4926
03:28:41,359 --> 03:28:46,880
All in favor, please say I.

4927
03:28:44,080 --> 03:28:50,760
» All oppose? No. We are now in close

4928
03:28:46,880 --> 03:28:50,760
session. Thank you.

4929
03:28:55,040 --> 03:28:57,680
» So,