[0:00] is WDE Walling. I'm the Faget County Emergency Management Director and we [0:04] wanted to bring you all here tonight to help pass out information [0:09] um where we're at, where we're going, uh and a little bit of where we've been. [0:15] So, I brought in some subject matter experts to help me uh do this. I'm not a [0:19] public speaker. I'm an emergency management director and retired [0:22] firefighter. So, um, as we progress through, uh, if you guys have important [0:28] questions that you you are looking for answers, I hope that we can provide [0:33] them, uh, to you and we'll do that to the best of our ability. That's the [0:37] whole goal here. So, we've been in response mode for the last 7 days and [0:44] now we're switching into recovery mode. Uh, the responses, the rescues, uh, [0:49] that's all over. Now, we're working to help get people's houses cleaned up, [0:55] cleared up, uh get structures torn down if they're destroyed, you know, to the [1:00] point that they're not usable. Um so, the the people behind me can answer [1:05] certain questions. They may not have all the answers, but um what we're going to [1:11] do is make sure that if you have a question and we can't answer it, make [1:16] sure you get with me and I'll make sure we get those uh answers um as quickly as [1:21] possible. Um so the title for this this town hall [1:26] is recovery and long-term recovery, right? So, the one thing I want to share [1:31] with you, um, in in this flood event, we've tracked over 350 addresses, [1:40] uh, throughout the county. That includes the city, 212. [1:44] I may be wrong. It may be 214 in the city. Um, but we've tracked those. Um, [1:51] and we're working to make sure that we help those those that were most [1:55] impacted. Today, uh, I checked my numbers again [2:00] and I've not received the new update from 211, but 182 people have signed up [2:07] through 211. And that's the intake process for us to get your information [2:12] to be able to uh reach out. Once we have those teams established, someone will [2:18] call th those people on the list and go through a lot of the things that that [2:23] we'll talk about tonight. Uh but just know that is in process. So the the good [2:29] thing is um as soon as uh we heard about this flooding, we did a early evacuation [2:36] so people could leave their homes at in the daylight. [2:40] Thanks to that early evacuation, there was no lives lost and no major [2:45] fatalities. So, our responders did a great job of getting people out of their [2:49] homes to safety um and getting those who have lost their homes to shelters. So, [2:55] kudos to those guys. They did outstanding. They were rock stars. Um, [3:00] so with that being said, if if you know friends or family that was affected by [3:06] this storm and they've not got a hold of 211, make sure they call that 8662119966 [3:15] number. That's how they get into the system so that we can track them, make [3:20] sure that we're reaching out uh as the days progress to help them with their [3:25] immediate, short-term, and long-term needs. So, give me just a second. Okay. [3:29] We'll get to questions here in a minute. Um, [3:32] » I have a comment on that though. >> Sure. [3:35] » They we called them. We answered all the questions [3:40] » and then they disappeared. >> Sure. [3:43] » And we they wanted us to do it again. >> Your answers are disappearing. That may [3:48] be a technical issue on their side, but I can reach out. I've not talked to [3:52] them. called back and the woman that we called back to talk to would not do the [3:57] questions again. >> Okay. [3:59] » She told us to go online. >> Well, so my phone number's out there, my [4:03] email's out there. So, get a hold of me and I will help you through that process [4:07] in the days to come. Remember, I'm busy. Um, so [4:12] » give me some grace. >> This one woman's telling everybody just [4:15] to go online to a certain place. >> Okay. [4:19] » Okay. So, um I ju I just talked to Jane behind me. She said that 211 did have [4:25] some technical issues. So, they they she talked to them and that's fixed now. So, [4:30] um please go back on there and do that again if you haven't. So, now I want to [4:36] kind of pass the mic around, let everybody introduce your themselves to [4:40] you so you know who who's here with me. Um which will help guide you your [4:44] questions and things that we can give you uh for assistance. So, I'll start [4:50] over here. So, >> hi. Thank you for having me. Uh, my name [4:55] is Lacy Foy and I'm from the Indiana Department of Homeland Security Recovery [4:59] section. >> We're just doing an introduction. [5:03] » We just do an introduction. >> Yeah, just introduction. [5:05] » Okay, cool. >> I'm Jane Krady. I'm the coordinator of [5:09] dis disaster response for Catholic Charities out of Indianapolis. Uh, [5:13] Catholic Charities Disaster Response. I'm also the chair of Indiana Boed, [5:18] which stands for voluntary organizations active in disaster, and that's the folks [5:21] that'll help you get back in your houses. [5:28] » John Baker. I'm the incident commander for our operation here and uh in [5:36] Connorville. And I I am sorry. I'm sorry for your loss. [5:42] » Yeah. I'm team Rubicon. >> Yeah. [5:47] » Good evening everybody. My name is Maria Rasio and I am with the American Red [5:52] Cross. I am working right now as the zone coordinator. I am also with the [5:57] Southeast Indiana chapter of which Fyet County is part. [6:03] » Hi, I'm Malia Thompson and I'm the Indiana Flood Coordinator for the United [6:08] Cajun Navy. the last year. [6:14] » Hi, I'm Mrs. Kavanagh and I'm with the public health um health department and [6:19] um I'm the public health nurse. >> And off to my right over here is Jason [6:24] Mauch. He's part of my incident management team that I requested from [6:28] the state. The rest of that team has departed because their skills and [6:32] services are needed elsewhere u for other things and they weren't directly [6:38] uh doing the missions to rescue people, things like that. But I did need a log [6:44] section chief. So I asked uh the state to extend his deployment till Monday at [6:50] noon um when he he'll be departing back for home and he definitely needs some [6:55] rest. Again, we're very sorry that this happened. We couldn't prevent it, but [7:02] man, this is a tragedy for us. Nobody has seen this kind of disaster. Uh it's [7:07] a one of those hundred-year floods, right? Uh it's really hard to imagine. [7:12] And I've been around for a long time, so I've seen our city and our rivers flood [7:17] over. There was nothing like this one. Um, so I uh a heartfelt uh goes out to [7:26] you. Uh, you know, I don't think words can even imagine the destruction and the [7:31] loss that we're facing, but we are working to make sure that you get some [7:36] resources. When you're dealing with government, it's never fast, right? So, [7:41] I ask everybody to be patient uh and and give us some grace to help. Um, we're [7:49] working round the clock. We I have not shut my EOC down until about 11 or 12:00 [7:55] at night. Um, and run home, get a couple hours sleep and right back in the [7:58] morning so I can help answer those calls. I've had my number open u to the [8:05] desk that sits right next to mine. If somebody's not answering it, it forwards [8:09] over to my cell phone and then I'll answer those calls. I've been in [8:14] countless meetings uh in the last 10 days uh about this, so I can't always [8:20] answer, but as soon as I can uh I will or someone will return your call. Um so [8:27] I kind of want to let everybody uh the experts that are here talk about some of [8:32] the areas that that they deal with as far as recovery. Um I brought handouts. [8:38] They went really fast. If you didn't get them, um, please reach out to me. Make [8:43] sure I have your contact information. We'll write everybody's name, email on [8:47] the phone, and I'll send those out to you so that you have them. But they're [8:51] they're emergency uh grant funds through state uh disaster relief fund as well as [8:58] how to reach out to the Red Cross and all these organizations that are helping [9:03] us. So, with that, I'm going to let Lacy um Voy Talk from IDHHS Recovery. Those [9:10] guys are rock stars, but there's not a lot of them. Um so, they're working just [9:15] as hard as everybody to get get help where it's needed. [9:25] » Thank you. Well, thank you all for being here and we're very sorry for what's [9:30] happening in your community right now. So, my goal today is to offer you um [9:35] some information about what's happening at the state level and give you some [9:40] resources um in addition to what you're receiving [9:45] um informationwise through 211. Uh so, currently we do have an emergency [9:53] declaration from FEMA. However, this is very limited. It does not include any [9:59] reimbursements um to any municipalities or individuals. [10:04] So essentially what this emergency declaration does is it opens up um [10:10] category B emergency protective measures. And what that is is lifesaving [10:15] and property protection measures. So anything that the state can't handle or [10:20] uh if we need additional resources, we can request that through this specific [10:25] type of declaration. A couple days ago, we did submit uh what's called a major [10:32] presidential federal declaration, and [clears throat] that includes assistance [10:37] for individuals as well as municipalities to help recover. [10:42] These requests can take time to be approved. I I do know that our teams are [10:48] doing absolutely everything they can um to answer any questions that are coming [10:53] back regarding this declaration. Um, but we do want to know that uh that was [11:00] submitted on August 20th. So, we were really fortunate to be able to submit it [11:07] so quickly. Uh, usually declarations of this nature take anywhere from 30 to 60 [11:13] days to submit. So, it went very quickly. [11:18] Um, if you would like to read the presidential declaration, it can be [11:22] found on the Department of Homeland Security's resource hub. [11:27] That hub is also going to be a really good place to find out information on if [11:33] you need food, housing, or who to contact if you're having any issues um [11:39] with insurance or anything like that. So, we did complete some joint [11:46] preliminary damage assessments in your area with FEMA. Um, you may have seen [11:51] them uh driving around in a vehicle. These were expedited uh preliminary [11:58] damage assessments, so they happen very quickly. Uh we were very fortunate and [12:03] your community was wonderful and we were able to get those done very quickly. [12:10] So for the state disaster relief fund, um IDHS has uh what's called the state [12:17] disaster relief fund and applications are open. They can be found on the [12:22] state's uh resource hub and we are currently accepting any and [12:29] all applications. We will go through those and make sure [12:33] the eligibility guidelines are met and then we will process those as quickly as [12:38] we possibly can. We are getting thousands of applications so it may take [12:42] us a little bit of time but we will do our best to process those as quickly as [12:48] we possibly can. Um there is housing assistance available [12:55] through Indiana Housing and Community Development Authority. Uh, this is done [13:00] through Indiana 211. So, if you call 211 and you let them know that you need [13:06] assistance for long or short-term housing, they will be able to uh put [13:11] that in their report and connect the appropriate resource people um to reach [13:16] out to you to be able to fill out information for hotel vouchers or um [13:22] assistance with rental housing. [13:26] Um, on August 17th, the Department of Insurance did um have a 60-day I am not [13:36] good with this word. I'm very sorry, uh, moratorum on the cancellation of any [13:41] insurance policies. Um, they did do that retroactively back to August 11th. So, [13:46] if there's any issues, please make sure you get a hold of the Indiana Department [13:50] of Insurance. Um, and then the final thing that I [13:56] would like to share with you, um, is it's so important to call 211 and let [14:02] them know of your damages or any resources that you might need. They're [14:06] able to connect you to food, housing, crisis counseling, any of those things. [14:13] So, um, 211 is a very, very important resource and any, uh, questions or needs [14:21] that you might have regarding the declaration or resources that the state [14:25] is able to provide, we will communicate all of that information through the EMA [14:31] office. Um, so Wade has my cell phone number, so if he has questions, he can [14:36] call. um and we'll try to get information to him in a timely manner [14:42] and as quickly as we possibly can. So, thank you so much for having me tonight [14:47] and uh we will be here to support in any way that we can. Thank you. [14:54] » Thank you. >> You have questions at the end. [14:57] » We'll do it at the end here. So yeah, if if we can so you guys have time to think [15:02] about your questions, stuff, let's hold them until everybody gets a chance to [15:06] speak and then we'll do a kind of a round table and let you come up to the [15:09] mic here. It should be turned on. I can see the green lights. So just come up [15:14] here so we can hear you really well uh and answer the questions that we can at [15:19] this time. Um, next I'm going to let team Rubicon uh introduce themselves [15:25] again and tell tell you all uh a little bit about what they've been doing. [15:31] As I said, my name is John Baker and I'm uh the commander for the uh effort here [15:38] in uh here in Connorville. We have six efforts ongoing. Uh three in Indiana [15:48] and and two in Ohio. And our volunteers are are are working floods and working [15:56] um tree damage that especially tree damage in the Maraveville area. And then [16:02] uh we are working also to flood issues in the Ohio Valley. Um our our we're a [16:11] veteranled all volunteer force. Um we're uh and we are we do u muck uh clear muck [16:22] clear out and uh we do uh we do tree uh we do some tree work. Um we and we're [16:29] from all over the country. I'm from uh I'm from Illinois. We've got folks here [16:35] from uh Maryland and Virginia and down in Alabama and and Texas. So, uh we [16:43] we're coming from all over to uh to to help. We're um [16:52] we see this a lot. Um and and it's it it's it's heartbreaking to see and and [17:00] we we stand with you and and anything that [17:06] we can do to to uh to um we do uh muckouts. We do uh cleaning [17:16] of the the removal of the floors and taking [17:20] everything out to the curb. Well, hey, all your appliances out and whatever [17:24] whatever needs to be done, but uh I I like I said, I I I I can't imagine and I [17:33] can't imagine your loss and and I feel I feel your pain. Um but if you want uh [17:40] we're available, 211 will get to us. Um and we also have a phone number that uh [17:47] that I can give you if if need be. Um the phone number I have for for us [17:54] directly is [17:59] not here is right. Come on. Where is it? [18:14] You think I'd be ready for this chat. [18:24] I get to the number. [18:28] Okay. Stage right. Um [18:40] the the number to get us directly is 4695859054. [18:48] We're scheduled to be here um at least till the end of the month, but if [18:53] there's more work to be done, we'll stay we'll we'll stand by you and and work [18:59] work till the till the work is done. We're looking at Connorsville. Uh there [19:05] are some homes in Laurel that that need to be taken care of and and uh we'll be [19:10] working that as well. >> Can you repeat the number? [19:13] » Sure. Um 469 4695859054. [19:26] Thank you. >> Thank you, John. Um, next I'm going to [19:31] let Malia Thompson uh talk to you. She's been a rock star throughout this thing. [19:38] She's managed all the coordination with the volunteers. She's also helped with [19:42] bring heavy equipment in, things like that. And I'll kind of let her give you [19:46] an idea of of what they've been doing. So, [19:50] » hey guys, I'm Malia. Um, I hate public talking, just so you guys know. Um, I'm [19:55] kind of here with the same concept team Rubicon has. We're here for the same [19:58] concept, and it's to help any of you guys. any way we can. Um I'm just going [20:02] to go over some like statistics that we have so far that we've able to bring [20:06] into the community. Um so far we've had 109 pallets of supplies provided. Um [20:12] we've had just under 1,400 volunteers that have been coordinated. Um we've [20:16] done muckout operations, debris removal. Um we have done 500 meals that have been [20:21] coordinated through Golden Corral and Cracker Barrel. Um, just today I had 45 [20:26] heavy equipment operators in town with 10 skid steers, six excavators, six dump [20:31] trucks, and seven dump trailers. Um, and I would not be able to do any of this [20:35] without our incident commander. He's hiding over here, but that's Josh Gills. [20:39] Um, [applause] [20:45] so to everybody who's donated, volunteered, and done anything, I [20:48] appreciate every single one of you. um every business that's donated and [20:51] anybody who's called to ask for anything. Um anybody who still needs [20:55] anything, don't hesitate to reach out. Um my phone number you can find it [20:59] anywhere I think at this point in the county. Um but it is 765470914 [21:06] and anything anybody needs just text me. Um I prefer texting because my phone [21:10] doesn't stop ringing. Um and I will try to get that to you guys as quickly as [21:14] possible and I'm grateful to be here and I hope I can help any way that I can. [21:18] What was your phone number again? >> Yeah, it's 765470914. [21:25] » How long have you got to be here? >> As long as I'm needed the way that I [21:28] understand. Um, so I mean I'm a local. I'm actually just from Richmond. So, um, [21:33] anything that I can do, just let me know and I'll try to be here. [21:40] » Thank you, Malia. So, um, I had the pleasure of meeting Josh Gil from the [21:46] United Cajun Navy. He sat down with me last night and he said, "Whatever you [21:50] guys need, whenever you guys need it, reach out and that they would fully [21:54] support what we're doing here to help you." Um, so, thank you very much, Josh. [22:00] It's amazing the help you guys have brought to our community. So, next I'd [22:04] like to introduce uh Red Cross here and let them talk a little bit about what [22:09] they can do to help you and um we'll go from there. After that, we'll talk with [22:14] the health department and then to the famous Jane Krady uh for the Indiana [22:19] VADS. [22:23] » Hi, good evening everybody again. My name is Maria Karasio and I'm with the [22:27] American Red Cross and uh I will tell you this much. I live in Bloomington and [22:33] I cover all of southern Indiana. I drive around here all the time and um it hurts [22:39] my heart to see roads that I know that I don't recognize. So, I'm here with you. [22:45] Um and the Red Cross is here with you. Right now, our mission is concentrating [22:51] on making sure that everybody that needs a place to stay has a place to stay. We [22:57] have several people from this county in one of our shelters at the Wayne County [23:01] Fairgrounds. Uh anybody who needs a place to stay, we have uh three shelters [23:08] uh soon to be four that we are running in southern Indiana. One in Wayne County [23:14] at the fairgrounds, another one at the Laurel Community Center in Franklin. Uh [23:18] we have another one at the Community of Hope United Methodist Church in [23:24] Richmond. and we are uh getting ready to take over another shelter that's already [23:29] open in Dearborn County. Uh the other thing that we're doing right now is that [23:35] we are making sure that we have several um a lot of cleaning supplies with us [23:41] and we actually have a a mission going on right now at the Expo Hall uh here in [23:47] Connorsville where we're providing cleanup supplies for people. We've been [23:52] there all day and we will continue to support that mission as long as you guys [23:56] need it. Um, we're also uh out in the community doing damage assessment and we [24:03] just want to make sure that we understand that data. We only look at [24:06] houses. We don't look at private at at uh commercial buildings, only houses. [24:12] And we'll be sharing that data with 211. We have really good sharing agreements [24:16] with a lot of other nonprofits. Um, as you find that you have needs that you [24:22] think maybe the Red Cross um can help you cover, please give us a call. It's 1 [24:28] 800 Redc Cross or 1 800733-2767 [24:35] and we're answering that number 24 hours a day. And again, that's 1-8007332767. [24:47] Thank you very much. So, next this is Missy Kavanagh. She's from our health [24:52] department. Um, so they've also been amazing kicking in and helping getting [24:58] mobile uh health units in into the areas that needed them. Uh, making sure people [25:04] have vaccines, things like that. But I'll let her discuss that. She's smarter [25:08] than I am. >> You're telling everything that I was [25:10] going to talk about. >> Um, again, I'm Missy Kavanagh. I'm with [25:13] the FA County Health Department and I'm your friendly public health nurse. Um so [25:19] I wanted to let you guys know that we're giving out um for free tetanus vaccines. [25:23] So there's, you know, no charge, no insurance um billing or anything like [25:27] that. We just ask that you come in and fill out a demographic of your basic [25:31] information. And um with that information, we'll upload it in the [25:34] state um immunization records. That way it'll reflect on your medical record if [25:38] anybody needs to look at your immunizations. [25:41] So, um also, uh we uh we're offering some protective um gear like if you need [25:48] any any gloves or any N95 mask or um what else? We have like um even like [25:55] wound care and stuff like that. We will do the basic wound care if you want to [25:58] come into the health department if you you know, you know, got a cut or [26:03] something like that. But, you know, naturally, if it's more severe, you need [26:06] to go to a higher level, you know, with our local hospital or or your provider. [26:11] So, um, also I just wanted to, um, you know, just kind of go over like, and [26:16] which I'm sure you all know, like if you are trying to salvage anything [26:21] food wise, it's just not recommended. You know, even if it's in a can and [26:25] things like that that you can wash it with soapy water and then cleanse it [26:29] with some sort of a chlorine or a um, bleaching solution. [26:34] Honestly, I would just dispose of it. Even even like your um jars and um like [26:42] pop pot bottles and stuff like that, that bacteria can still get in the [26:46] crevices of the design on the on the bottle and stuff. So, it's just really [26:50] recommended just to get rid of all the food. I mean, it's not worth the chance [26:53] of, you know, getting getting the contamination. [26:57] Um and then you know if you need any resources healthwise um just get a hold [27:03] of us and let us know what you need. Um like Wade said that we partnered up with [27:07] Reed and um a couple uh Rush Memorial they sent over their unit their mobile [27:12] unit to help with the vaccines and things like that. But um as far as like [27:17] um we had uh partnered with Reed in which they were over at Baptist Temple. [27:22] I'm not sure if they're going to be over there again this week. Um, but we will [27:26] know that if you want to give us a call down at the office on Monday. Um, and [27:30] they're giving also they're giving tetanus vaccines too and and basic wound [27:35] care. Um, also we've partnered up with Meridian and Centerstone um for mental [27:40] health. If you have any mental health crisis and stuff, please reach out to [27:44] them and they can provide you with counseling and some guidance. Um, also [27:48] there we I don't know if you guys are aware of but we do have a free clinic [27:51] here in town. It's called the clinic and it's associated with a higher praise [27:55] worship center and they are located over by um industrial park area on Illino [28:01] Illinois Avenue. Um they actually sit behind the old EMT unit over there by [28:07] Industrial Park, but they have a free clinic over there and if you need any [28:11] type of health care or any any connection um it's low cost or free of [28:16] charge. So it's it's well worth checking into since everybody has their limited [28:22] resources now. Um um now and then on the water testing I [28:28] don't know a lot of details about that but we are offering a lowcost water uh [28:32] private well testing. Um it'd be your best bet to call the office to get more [28:38] details on it. We did post something on Facebook about what you need to do. Um, [28:43] but I believe also the state um, health department, Indiana Department of [28:47] Health. Um, I think their environmental divi division is going to do free water [28:52] testing, but that's a little bit more of a process because, um, in order to send [28:58] it off, either you're going to have to mail it off at your cost or you can [29:02] drive it up to, I believe, um, Wayne County Health Department because they [29:07] are a courier pickup hub. So, um just call the office and we have all that [29:14] mapped out and detailed in some literature for you. But if you want to [29:18] come to our office, we do um the HML um we work with HML laboratories and they [29:24] just have they have a low cost of $10. So, we can send that out. And like I [29:29] said, to get more details, I'm I'm not an expert in that area, but um just [29:35] reach out at the office and we have the process of what you need to do to send [29:38] off that testing. Um, and I think that's about all I've got to [29:43] say. So, if you need any any resources, if I don't if I don't know it offhand, I [29:48] will dig in and try to find it for you. Um, we're located at the courthouse on [29:52] the lower level and our number is 765825413. [29:59] » Thank you, Miss Bessie. Uh, so one other thing I I I want to let everybody know [30:05] and then we'll get into answer trying to answer some of your or actually let Jane [30:09] speak and then get into answering your questions is um I know not everybody [30:14] follows Facebook which is why we printed some of these flyers. Um, [30:19] if you can at all get a friend or family member, I post all the information that [30:24] I'm receiving from the state, from Red Cross, from these other uh agencies to [30:30] push messages out to you. Uh, I I tell you, the Faget County Commissioners have [30:36] pulled out all the stops. They're supporting our recovery efforts 100%. [30:42] Uh, I couldn't be happier. Uh, if I just say, "Hey, I need napkins here." they [30:47] would make it happen. Um, and you don't often see that, but this this disaster [30:52] has really brought out the best in most people. Um, and and they have stood [30:58] behind us and and made those decisions to to allow me to do the best that I [31:04] could do for you. Um, and it's not always perfect, but we do try. Um, so I [31:11] do want to uh give kudos to them because I this between them and the county [31:17] council, I've not seen more coordinated uh support behind any effort. Um, and [31:23] they do their best, right? But they have pulled out all the red tape. They've [31:27] made things streamlined so I can request the resources we need. Um, so I do want [31:32] you guys to know, check my Facebook page, have family and friends give you [31:37] information. I tried to make it easy with the state disaster relief fund by [31:42] having a QR code you can scan and that takes you directly to the application. I [31:47] will push out information just as soon as I have it u about other other [31:52] programs things like that. But um let's let Jane talk about the recovery. [32:00] » Thank you sir. [32:05] » Hi everybody. Um, as I said before, my name is JaneRy. C R A D Y, uh, claim [32:12] Jane works. I'm with Catholic Charities Disaster Response, but I'm also the [32:16] chair of Indiana VAD. And again, that stands for voluntary organizations [32:21] active in disaster. The groups that you see behind me are members of Indiana [32:26] VOAD and National VOAD. And there's over a hundred different organizations and [32:33] more hundreds more partners that work with us. Um, as the gentleman from Cage [32:38] Navy said, there are people here from all over the state. Um, we've got people [32:43] from uh Pennsylvania and Missouri and Louisiana and Michigan and Wisconsin and [32:48] and there's just everybody people are clamoring to come in to help you. Okay. [32:53] We have a national VOAD uh call that I'll be having again on Monday to ask [32:59] for more help if and to put them where where you need help the most. Okay. [33:04] Right now you've got two great groups in here doing what needs to be done. So [33:08] what I'd like to talk to you about is where do we go from here? Okay. I'm [33:13] going to ask you a couple quick questions. How many of you are [33:16] homeowners? Quite a few of you. How many are [33:19] renters? Okay. A few. Okay. So, that's good to [33:25] know. And as you were told before, there is rental insurance, not only for the [33:29] renters, but for any of you. Um, there's rental help. Uh, and they're putting [33:35] together a program where they can, uh, Homeland and not Homeland Security. I [33:39] always get these these Indiana Housing and Community [33:44] Development Agency. They're putting together a program where they can pay [33:49] the first month's rent and the deposit for you. Okay? It's not completely in [33:54] place yet, but they're working on it. So, that'll give you some uh time and it [33:59] could be up to each case may be different, but it could be up to maybe 6 [34:03] months worth. Okay? Which will give you time to start getting your house [34:07] repaired or making decisions what you need to do. There's also that um hotel [34:14] vouchers as he said, call 211 and just mark the thing and tell them that you [34:20] need housing. If you've already done that, you will be getting a call from [34:24] somebody uh at the at that level within the next week or so to get you the [34:30] vouchers for the hotels. Okay. Any questions on that part right there? [34:36] I know it's not time to include questions yet, but you're asking. [34:40] » I'm sorry. >> I do since you're asking and I bet you a [34:43] lot of people been through this, >> right? [34:45] » Call 211. They do have somebody call you or email you. But as you notice when you [34:52] do get that information and get that say motel, hotel or the rent, they want an [34:59] ID. There are some elderly people that lost everything. [35:02] » Oh, we can we can work with that. Okay. >> We need that. [35:07] » They will work with that. Okay, >> gotcha. I hear I don't know if everybody [35:11] heard that, but there's people who need help just to fill out forms and and to [35:15] find their IDs and that and we can work with that, too. The next step that's [35:19] going to happen here is we are in the process uh of setting up what's called [35:24] the long-term recovery committee, okay? Or group. And that is people from your [35:30] community that were not flooded that are going to start working to get you either [35:35] back into your homes or relocated or if we run out of resources that's that. But [35:41] but to get you back in your homes or relocated. We will work with the [35:45] underinsured and the I think I just pulled this thing apart and the [35:49] batteries are going to fall out. Um we'll work with the underinsured and [35:54] the uninsured. Uh because obviously if you had flood How many of you had flood [35:58] insurance? Oh, that's a good number of you. Thank [36:02] you. Glad to hear that. Um [36:07] so we will be working with the underinsured and the uninsured to help [36:11] find the resources to get you either back into your home or relocated. Okay. [36:16] And what that consists of is several committees. We'll have a construction [36:20] committee and a volunteer committee who will bring in not the volunteers, maybe [36:26] some of the same groups cuz these people behind us do the the rebuilds too and [36:30] the the repairs on the homes, but we will bring in qualified, trained [36:36] construction people to help make repairs to your home. We'll help find the [36:40] materials to do that. We also have emotional and spiritual teams. Okay? So [36:46] if you have anybody whether you marked it on 211 or not um you know we we'll we [36:52] can hook you up with that and I understand um there'll be um finally an [36:58] unmet needs table where we we will bring your cases to the table to get resources [37:04] for anything we haven't already accomplished getting your house repaired [37:07] or whatever. But the main thing is is we will have disaster case managers. Those [37:13] case managers will be trained in how to uh help you in disaster emergencies like [37:20] we have right now. I do the training of those people and we will be doing that [37:25] very quickly. So, I'm hoping within the next couple of weeks we'll have that [37:29] done and you will be contacted by a case manager or you will be given a phone [37:36] number to leave your information so the case manager can make contact with you. [37:41] Unfortunately, there's always a lot of paperwork. You know, we've got to answer [37:44] all the questions. But please understand that in order to get grants to help you, [37:51] okay, we have to answer to the people that are giving us the money. Therefore, [37:54] we have to have a lot of paperwork. But the case manager will hold your hand and [37:59] and they'll be helping you do all that kind of paperwork, too. these people. [38:03] You'll have one case manager per household and that one case manager will [38:08] hold your hand until you're either back in your house or relocated again. Okay? [38:12] So, don't despair. There are there is help on the way for all of this. And um [38:18] yeah, it should be happening pretty soon. You'll get a case manager and the [38:22] ball will start to roll. Okay? You'll see there's also legal aid. Uh we have [38:28] some situations in all disasters where maybe uh somebody's buying their house [38:34] on contract and so you've got the owner that's the seller and the buyer [38:39] basically and the fine print in all that can be kind of interesting. Um insurance [38:45] policies are always kind of difficult to understand and so our people the case [38:51] manager will help you through that to help find the resources. Okay. [38:57] And so I'll turn this back over to to Wade, uh, I guess for questions and [39:03] answers. [39:06] » Thank you, Jay. So, uh, we want to do a few minutes here to [39:12] answer some questions that we can answer for you. Um, is this thing working? Um [39:18] but um if if you would so we can hear you and and we're not straining, please [39:23] come up to the microphone, ask your question, kind of do it orderly. Um [39:29] we're going to try to uh provide you those answers. Um [39:35] so let's start with whoever would like to [39:40] come on. I just had a question. [39:43] » Um, can I get some of that paperwork or you'd like a lady who [39:47] » I'm sorry I couldn't hear you. >> Can I just get the paperwork that they [39:50] have? >> Yeah, right here. Yeah, that's my only [39:53] question. >> Good thing I'm loud enough so I don't [39:57] really need the mic. Um, isn't there a virtual like or not virtual but like an [40:02] online application too for 211? Yes. >> So you Okay. I just want to know is [40:06] there a way to figure out to make sure that that does get submit? like do you [40:09] get like a like a um confirmation back or anything like that or how does that [40:15] work? >> Yeah. So, if you go to indian211.org [40:20] that will take you to the disaster response page or the intake uh area. [40:25] Read through that page. It will I believe it's down at the lower end of [40:30] it. Um but there is an intake form. You click on it and open it up. you can. [40:35] It's actually faster than using the 211 telephone number. Um, you will get a [40:41] response saying your form's been received. Um, and every I believe right [40:47] now it's set up for every two days. I get an Excel spreadsheet with that. Um, [40:52] which is the 182 names that I seen today. I'm expecting the the new one [40:57] tomorrow. Um, so you know the the names list should have have grown on that if [41:04] people are going to that website or calling 211. [41:07] » Okay. And then I also have seen like the grants and stuff that's like the 5,000. [41:10] I' Well, we've seen so many different things. There's 25,000. Is that per [41:14] person, per family? How does that work? Does anyone know the answer to that? [41:20] » So that's per household. Okay. Uh we have had a lot of duplicate applications [41:26] um for each member of the household. Uh but it is only available [41:33] uh per household right now. >> Oh, perfect. [41:37] » Is there a confirmation on that 5,000 after you filled it out? [41:41] » Yeah. >> She just said something else. [41:43] » I'm sorry. I didn't hear. >> Is there a confirmation on the 5,000 [41:47] once you fill that out? Oh. Um, so we did have a a confirmation uh that [41:54] when you filled it out, it would send you um an email afterwards saying thank [41:59] you for your submission. We did have to turn that off because unfortunately [42:05] there were so many applications happening at one time. So people were [42:10] getting other people's information in the uh reply email. Um, [42:17] we had to turn that off unfortunately. [42:23] » Yeah, we crashed the system. Um, and just so you know, okay, on the 211 [42:28] confirmation, they did have a glitch and even though you filled it out, you hit [42:33] submit, it did go through, but you may not have gotten that confirmation [42:37] number. Okay? But don't worry about it. That's what they told me yesterday. [42:43] » All right. Go ahead. Okay. So, I'm here for myself, too, but I'm also here for [42:49] some other people since I also walked my neighborhood to If you don't know your [42:53] neighbor, you know them now. >> I'll tell you that. [clears throat] [42:56] » Um, so a couple of things that some of my surrounding people are wanting to [43:00] know, is there a timeline on the Expo and Baptist Temple items that you can go [43:07] get? Is there a deadline for that? Like, is it going to I mean, obviously, are [43:10] you going to do it till it runs out or what is there a timeline? They all worry [43:14] they can't that some of them don't have vehicles, [43:16] » right, >> or a ride, so they worry about that. So, [43:18] I'm just up here kind of with a list of stuff here. [43:20] » Sure. >> Um and then there was a social media um [43:25] post about if you want to send information to Bill McDaniel. [43:30] » Mhm. >> Um in regards to the 211 being glitchy. [43:35] » So, if they sent that already, would that be something that Mr. Mr. McDaniel [43:39] was going to take care of like it like the post had said or what's that going [43:42] to be about? >> Sure. So, you stay there so I can [43:45] backtrack on your your other questions. So, Bill is actually here with us [43:49] tonight. >> Um he he's got a folder that's that big [43:52] and I believe he's been going house to house too talking to people. He is [43:57] collecting the data that we need. So, please work with him. Um, but you're [44:02] going to meet a lot of people from a lot of different organizations and they it [44:06] seems like they all need the same information, right? Um, but that's to [44:10] help you to get you resources as quickly as possible. So, uh, bear with us as we [44:16] get these damage assessments in and done. Uh, we have a long haul. Uh, I I [44:22] don't foresee all of this being wrapped up in two years. Um it's that takes that [44:28] long to get all the data, all that uh everything done uh get all the special [44:34] teams. We're going to be working on this for a while. Um so uh we are trying to [44:39] move as quickly as possible to get this done. Most of those damage assessment [44:44] things are done outside of a few organizations like the Red Cross. They [44:49] were on the boot boots on the ground yesterday and today uh doing that. Um, [44:53] but we're quickly moving into that long-term recovery phase. Um, where Jane [44:59] and the steering committee for that u long-term recovery group will will be [45:05] moving really uh quickly here in the next couple weeks. Um, so uh I hope that [45:11] answers that question for you to go back to the distribution points. So I have [45:17] spoken with the fair board on this and they are planning on keep continuing [45:22] their operations for two more weeks. Um and uh as far as I know there is no uh [45:30] time that the Baptist temple distribution uh point will close down. [45:35] » Were they going to merge those two? >> Well, they will. So any supplies that we [45:39] order, we're trying to split it up between the two of them now so that [45:43] people that need it on the north end can go. somewhere close and people that need [45:47] on the south end have a a close place to go. Um, I know my logs chief over here, [45:52] Jason, uh, he's still filling requests. I think we ordered more fans, box fans [45:58] today because we were out, mops, any anything that we think we could need. [46:03] Um, as soon as we talked to those people running those distribution points, I [46:09] know extension cords was another one today. Um, so as soon as I get that [46:14] information, I go straight to my logs chief and I say, "We need this." and he [46:19] goes through uh everybody he can think of to get those supplies donated because [46:24] we're trying to help you so you don't have to cover the cost of cleaning [46:28] equipment and gear. So, um keep the requests coming in. Tell the people [46:33] running that that this is what you need. If they don't have it, uh be patient. [46:37] You know, as soon as I get the the information that we need something, I'm [46:40] pushing to him. Um but keep in mind, he's leaving uh us Monday. He has to end [46:46] his deployment. So, I will be that person taking that. I am working with [46:51] the commissioners hopefully to get some more help for my office to do that. Um, [46:56] so I'm not trying to track everything by myself. Uh, because that's when we have [47:00] some failures, right? And I don't want that for you. Uh, I already fell enough [47:04] on some things. So, um, go ahead. What was your other question? [47:09] » I got a little bit of a list. Okay. And then this is more on this is how I am, [47:14] Wade. You know me. So, um there are um a lot of people and we are talking more [47:20] elderly again um who if there was some way that we could set the have the [47:25] library or someplace that these people can go for internet access if they need [47:32] to um there's a lot of people that don't know that the that the trustee township [47:36] trustees right >> um put out a email list for everybody to [47:41] contact their trustee at the you know their okay [47:44] » um And then again, um there's a lot that don't even have an email address. They [47:48] don't do the email. They don't do the internet. So, is there a place of des is [47:53] there a designated place that we could set up a um even if it's not all day or [47:59] every day, just say like every Wednesday, somebody can go down to the [48:04] library or someplace and have somebody help them get logged on in some, you [48:10] know, and have some type of help for that because very well. [48:14] » So, you beat me to my end of my talk, so you're you jumped way ahead for me. [48:20] » I'm sorry. Well, I wrote this down. So, like, you know, designate it or a tech [48:25] person to help these people, right? >> Um, I know we all have support systems, [48:28] but, you know, internet does >> play a factor sometimes in this. So, [48:32] obviously, >> so here's what we're planning right now. [48:35] Uh, I'm in the process, I've already had this conversation with a few of the [48:38] commissioners, with Jane. What we want to do is set up um an area. The public [48:45] library was one. I'm thinking about using the office next to the [48:50] commissioner's conference room in the courthouse where we'll have uh people [48:54] trained to help those who are not real techsavvy who who may not uh get these [49:01] messages. And when that comes out, we will publish that information. I will [49:05] probably send another rave like I did for the alert. So, you'll get that alert [49:10] on your phone that these centers are open. Um, we're going to try to get [49:14] volunteers to staff that. Uh, and I plan on uh relying a little bit heavily on [49:19] Malia here, uh, to help man those uh, places because she knows what we need. [49:25] Um, she's great at resources. U, but getting the volunteers to come in and [49:30] help our community. That being said, I if we have elderly uh or people that [49:36] can't don't have good mobility, we will try to get teams to go to them with [49:41] computers and sell cell service Wi-Fi going to them. Um I don't have those [49:48] teams in place. This this whole event has went really quick for me because [49:52] it's uh still Tuesday. Um so we will get those teams out. be patient with us, but [49:59] that is our goal to to to help our community uh get the applications, get [50:04] the resources they need. Um, you can always contact me at that 15:30 number [50:10] that I published uh that and that like I said that rolls over if I'm not [50:16] answering that desk phone, it rolls over to myself. [50:18] » And then the only other question that somebody asked me that was I don't know [50:21] if it's important, but what is the T-Mobile uh bus doing on East Fifth at [50:26] the utility? What is that for? Is that for your support or is it for community [50:30] to sign up with T-Mobile? What is that? >> Right. So, it has nothing to do with [50:34] signing up for T-Mobile. So, I had Verizon come in and T-Mobile come in. [50:39] And what those are are mobile charging stations. So, they gave um us several [50:45] charging blocks that had like a 100 cords on each one so that they could get [50:50] any phone that needed charge. What we ran into on especially in East [50:54] Connorville is the power was out. People's phones were dying. They weren't [50:58] getting messages from us. So, I called them. They sent those mobile support [51:03] units for uh your cell phone charging. We set it next to uh the Cross Points [51:11] feeding tent because when people sat down there to eat, they could set their [51:15] phone on there and charge. Uh I believe uh T-Mobile, I I haven't checked today, [51:20] but last I seen yesterday, they were still there. Um Verizon Verizon got [51:26] called I think to go help Cambridge. >> Um so it it was a resource we wanted to [51:32] provide for you. Uh actually the man that brought that they weren't manning [51:36] that station. They dropped it off and let people charge as they needed to. Um [51:40] and I think he went somewhere else and just hung out um while that resource was [51:46] here. >> Okay. because there was some people that [51:48] lost cell phones and they didn't know if they could go and recoup something from [51:51] T-Mobile or if there was a cell phone help for lost communications. [51:56] » That's actually Yeah, that's a very good point. And I don't have that answer. [52:01] That's something I I think they're probably going to have to contact their [52:04] carrier for. Okay. >> Um because it's a vital resource, you [52:08] know, for other people to try to get >> a phone, right? [52:12] » So, I just wanted to make sure that wasn't some kind of hub that they could [52:14] go and get a emergency. They weren't they weren't manned. Now the Verizon was [52:19] manned. They were handing out water, but you telling people what it was for. But [52:22] » well, if you locate something to help for lost cell phones and no [52:25] communication whatsoever for some, it might help, too. [52:28] » Yeah. >> Okay, I'm done. [52:29] » Thanks, Kelly. I appreciate you. >> I have a question for Jane first. What [52:35] is your number that we can reach out to you? [52:37] » Honey, I can't hear you. You got to speak into the mic. what is your number [52:41] so people in the county can reach out to you just in case you don't have their [52:45] active information then they can reach out to you to give it to you because [52:49] you're talking about let's see disaster case managers coming to help them but I [52:55] ran into a problem when this first happened to some people out of our [53:00] county saying not all of the landlord's informations or the owner's telephone [53:04] numbers was attached to their file on record at the courthouse. So, how would [53:09] you reach out to them to help them get assigned a case manager? [53:13] » Okay, first of all, it's not me and you don't need my number. [53:17] » So, I'm not going to give it to you. Okay. [53:18] » Okay. I didn't contact I cover the entire state and as of and Lacy can [53:24] correct me just the other day on two couple days ago on 211 application, you [53:30] know, registrations only. There were over 13,000. [53:33] » Oh, I didn't know like everybody else was giving contact so I didn't. So, I [53:37] was jotting it down for everybody. I didn't hear yours. Sorry. [53:40] » Yeah, I didn't give it. Okay. I can't take 13,000 calls a day. That's what I [53:45] would get. No, it will be the long-term recovery group. Let me stand up. I feel [53:49] like I'm yelling over the table at >> um the long-term recovery group, which [53:53] is forming right now for your county. Okay. So, [53:57] » u and they will contact you from the 211 list. [54:00] » Okay. And just in case you're not showing up for some reason, they will [54:05] give you they will be publishing a number in u weights and everything that [54:10] you can call to to tell them you need a case manager. [54:13] » And back to her when she asked for a confirmation number, they said they [54:17] couldn't give anybody confirmation numbers of the applications [54:21] » for which one? 211 >> 211. They said there they there was [54:24] nothing they could do to give us a confirmation. There used to be a [54:28] confirmation number button on there that would give you one and that broke. [54:32] » Okay. [clears throat] >> Because ours overload. [54:34] » Well, what happened was the system overloaded. Like, you know, there were [54:38] 13,000 so far, right? >> Um, and everybody was calling in at [54:42] once. So, certain things crashed and they weren't able to put that [54:46] confirmation number back up there. >> Okay, that makes sense. [54:49] » So, don't worry about it. You're in there. The next question is, we [54:54] scrambled to find my dad and brother a place. We raised a little bit of money [54:58] like rubbing pennies together to get them in a place. So, will you guys have [55:03] funds to reimburse that? >> It um depends. You mean since the flood? [55:08] » Yeah. >> Okay. Uh that's up to the long-term [55:10] recovery committee again. Uh but there's a good possibility. The main thing is [55:15] keep every receipt. I don't care if you just had to buy a hamburger burger [55:20] because your kitchen was flooded. Keep every receipt. Any money you put out [55:25] there for hotels, uh food on the road, you know, so to speak, uh because you [55:31] are in a hotel, any money that you uh anything you purchase for your home, [55:36] » whether it be um you know, something to muck it out or help get the water out, [55:40] whatever it is, keep every receipt. And those at the long-term recovery table [55:46] will be what we're looking at to qualify for receipts. [55:49] » You may have covered this, but I was trying to jot down stuff. [55:52] » Okay. >> Now, my dad's landlord is from [55:55] California, >> right? [55:57] » He was he didn't have the insurance like he thought. So, will he also be able to [56:02] be reimbursed to for anything that he does? [56:05] » Your father? >> No, my father's landlord. He's from [56:09] California. He's right over there. >> Oh, well, okay. So, so he's further away [56:13] and he wanted a point of contact like somebody locally listed. [56:16] » It'll be the long-term recovery group. Again, what happens with landlords and [56:21] renters? >> Yes. [56:22] » Is a decision that the long-term recovery has to make, [56:25] » okay, >> based on how much money they have, how [56:28] many resources they have. Quite frankly, the general rule is if a landlord owns [56:34] four or more rental units, he's considered a business and should have [56:40] insurance. And and that in general, you don't help them just like you wouldn't [56:46] help Walmart. >> See, but he was also located on the [56:49] highest point of the the bank where it shouldn't have even breached and broke. [56:52] » Yeah. But that doesn't you know >> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you [56:55] would never thought that. But remember the the renter [56:59] » is anything they lost in that >> okay [57:02] » uh flood and then helping to find them another location and paying the first [57:06] month's rent and the the deposit. >> Okay. [57:09] » But the renter the rental or the landlords [57:12] » are case by case kind of. >> Okay. That's what I want to know. Thank [57:15] you. Appreciate that. >> Okay. [57:17] » Thank you. Go ahead. >> So I'm sure I'll probably get told the [57:20] same thing of go into longterm recovery. What is the long-term like outlook from [57:27] people like us where we own our house, we still owe $46,000 on it. So now we're [57:32] out of that money and they're going to demo our house down next weekend. We [57:37] actually to tell my 5-year-old on our fifth birthday that we lost our entire [57:40] house and our six-year-old and now they're tearing our house down. Our bank [57:46] is still telling us we're liable for that loan. That's $46,000. So now we're [57:50] screwed. Um, and now no one really has a question and then we're getting told [57:55] this is going to take at least 2 years to kind of get to a normal and if Red [58:01] Cross and stuff's only going to help for 30 days or whatever it was or a couple [58:05] months, how's that help down the long road? Like [58:07] » how does that look or play? Does that make sense? Like [58:10] » Yeah, it does. So, and it's heartbreaking because you're not the [58:13] only one with this problem. I've seen it. I've talked to people actually some [58:17] of my family have totally lost their homes. They're destroyed. They can't go [58:22] back to them. They're >> our whole foundation's about to just [58:24] fall down. >> So, that unfortunately is a part of [58:28] disaster, right? So, now you have to deal with your bank who's saying, you [58:32] know, this is you still owe us this money. I I can't give you financial [58:36] guidance on information that that's way over what I understand anyway. U it it's [58:42] heartbreaking, but the long-term piece of this is where this committee comes [58:47] in. So, yes, temporary Red Cross in the next 30, 45 days to get you someplace. [58:53] The long-term recovery committee are the ones that help you restore your homes uh [58:58] financially until the money runs out. And and it's that long-term um that [59:04] they're really looking at making you uh or helping you get back into a position [59:10] of stability. >> What about like trying to like buy a [59:13] house, things like that? like is it going to have any help with that or [59:17] » First of all, my recommendation from 20 years of doing this in Indiana and other [59:24] places across the country, do not let them demo your home until we've got our [59:30] eyes on it. Everybody's got their eyes on it. FEMA, the uh Homeland Security [59:35] people, there's a lot that goes into this. And the DNR, the Department of [59:39] Natural Resources, uh are you in a flood zone? [59:43] » No. So FEMA came in in 2015. We bought our house in 2019. 2015 they told them [59:48] the house next to us is a flood zone. We're not. We're like 30 feet from the [59:52] river. We're on Howard Street. And they told us we weren't a flood zone. The [59:55] house next to me though was one and it was $1,400 a month for their flood [59:59] insurance entrance. And now they have a $10,000 deductible. So no one's going to [1:00:02] be able to afford that in the first place. [1:00:05] » So it's kind of like the >> whatever you do again, do not let them [1:00:08] demo your house. be told by KJ and Navy to have it demoed because of how [1:00:12] » do not let them demo your house. It's it's all the all the red tape that's got [1:00:18] to go on to get you the money that you need. There could be eventually and it's [1:00:25] kind of been applied for, but we're trying to get all the figures from all [1:00:29] the floods in the in the state and put it together what's called the mitigation [1:00:34] buyout plan. We can't promise that right now, but that is a plan whereby they [1:00:40] have to buy your house at your assessed value before the [1:00:45] disaster. >> Okay? Cuz I think it was ours was almost [1:00:48] 200,000. >> Okay? So sit tight. Do not let them demo [1:00:52] your house. Stand there. No. >> K Navy was cuz we asked FEMA or we asked [1:00:57] them. We're like, "Well, doesn't FEMA have to see it first?" And he's like, [1:01:00] "No, as long as you have all the pictures of me." [1:01:02] » Who did you ask? >> Someone from Cinjun Navy over at Baptist [1:01:05] Temple. >> Okay. Did do you know about that? [1:01:07] » It wasn't you. >> Okay. They they they're great at what [1:01:11] they do, but what they do right now is not the technical work that [1:01:17] » it's also not the normal. Like this isn't what we have happen every day. So, [1:01:21] » I know, I know, I know, I know, hun. And it's so devastating and it's so [1:01:25] frustrating and mindboggling and then it all gets mixed up. But I'm telling you, [1:01:30] don't let them demo the house. Um, it will be demoed when it needs to be if [1:01:34] that's what needs to be done. But in the meantime, we've got to have everybody [1:01:38] that needs to see it. I mean, if they measure it and you're a half an inch [1:01:42] from the flood zone, it makes a difference. Okay. [1:01:45] » They told us we are 03% or 03 away from being a flood zone. [1:01:50] » Yeah. See, >> and then they told us we couldn't get [1:01:52] flood insurance when we bought the house. We got told from everyone about [1:01:55] that. And then >> I live in Shelby County. [1:01:59] » Okay. Which is that away? >> Yeah. His family lives in Shelby. [1:02:02] » Okay. So, um I live nowhere near anything that could be considered a [1:02:08] flood zone. I have flood. I have flood insurance. [1:02:11] » Yeah. We just got told now, but when we bought in 2019, they told us insurance. [1:02:15] Our um when we bought the house, they told us that. So, we're like cuz I said [1:02:19] I told him I said, "Hey, can we get it? I want it." because we're like 30 ft [1:02:23] from the river and they told us we could not. [1:02:25] » Anytime you're told you cannot go find another agent, another company, you can. [1:02:30] Okay. I did it just to prove that I can. Okay. [1:02:33] » So, is there any specific thing we need to look for for the long term? Like cuz [1:02:36] obviously like housing all that >> what you need to do right now is keep [1:02:42] yourself in a safe place, you and your family, wherever that is. You can get as [1:02:46] I said the hotel um assistance or rental assistance. Um, don't let them demo your [1:02:52] house and sit tight till you get a case manager. They can walk you through this. [1:02:56] Indiana Legal Aid is here to help us. Uh, you know, we've got to all the all [1:03:01] the all the questions will be answered, okay? But we can't do it all right now [1:03:05] because we don't know some of the things yet. Just don't let them demo the house. [1:03:09] Okay? >> I don't do it. [1:03:12] » Thank you. [applause] [1:03:18] before you before you run off. >> So, can you discuss individual [1:03:23] assistance, please? >> Sure. Absolutely. Um, the amount that [1:03:28] they could be eligible for and how the states got to apply for individual [1:03:31] assistance for these people here. >> Absolutely. Um, before I forget though, [1:03:37] I wanted to make sure I answered your question appropriately about um getting [1:03:41] confirmation on your state disaster relief fund application. Um, so I I [1:03:46] texted our public information officer um and they are going to send an email out [1:03:51] to everyone um in the coming days, maybe a week or so um that they have received [1:04:00] your application. Um so make sure that that you keep an eye on your email for [1:04:04] that as well. >> I even reached out to Red Cross the day [1:04:07] that it happened and they finally called me back. What was that called the way [1:04:12] ago? And they said, "Oh, what can we help you with?" And I said, "Well, we [1:04:15] literally lost everything. The water went above our roof." Like, and they [1:04:19] said, "Okay, well, what about housing?" And I said, "Well, we didn't really like [1:04:24] have a long-term situation. We just had something that shortterm to kind of get [1:04:27] through." And they told us, "Okay, we'll have a good day." So, they're like, "You [1:04:32] have this place in moral. Oh, wait. The place in moral is closing." And then [1:04:35] told us that we could go to the one in Richmond for the shelter house. [1:04:38] » Okay. >> So, [1:04:41] let's have a quick chat. >> Yeah. Um let me talk about individual [1:04:46] assistance if that's okay. Um so the state I [1:04:50] » opened up a whole flood of >> No, you're fine. You're fine. Um the [1:04:54] state so part of the uh major um federal presidential disaster declaration [1:05:02] um we can ask for specific programs. So we have asked for individual assistance. [1:05:08] Um, and what that means is if it is approved by the president, um, we have [1:05:14] absolutely no say in programming or how much people get or anything like that [1:05:20] because it is a federal program. Um, but we have asked for it and it did go into [1:05:26] our presidential declaration request. >> How do they determine that? Do you know [1:05:30] like of how much people get or whatever or how they get it? [1:05:35] » That's a great question. Um, That was a president question. [laughter] [1:05:39] » I wish I could just call him on the phone and be like, "Hey, sir." Um, [1:05:42] » we have all kinds of questions down here, like if you could come answer [1:05:45] these. >> So, um, once FEMA comes in, uh, to my [1:05:49] knowledge, the state is kind of removed from that process, right? [1:05:52] » I talked to the FEMA guy the other day. He said people that have to relocate, [1:05:56] the max they could get was $43,000, but he said, "Don't bank on that. Typically, [1:06:00] people only get 4,000, >> which will not help at all with buying a [1:06:06] whole new house." It's like >> right which is why the long-term [1:06:09] recovery group is so important. >> Um [1:06:12] » it's up to the 40 some thousand and you know so it could be anything just like [1:06:16] your >> so so [1:06:19] Larry is your boss is that right? >> Yes he's my boss [laughter] [1:06:24] » about this and he said hey just to kind of give you an idea how important these [1:06:29] boads are. FEMA comes in and they may offer you that that much money, but [1:06:34] these boads that come in and help you bring a lot more resources, a lot more [1:06:40] fun. >> So, while FEMA may only give us, you [1:06:43] know, an X number of dollars for the whole state to try to help these BOATs [1:06:49] come in and I don't bank count on that number, but like triple the amount of [1:06:54] money that FEMA is going to offer. It isn't like [1:06:57] » Let me give you an example on what he's talking about there deal [1:07:01] » in one of our disasters a few years back. Um we got a FEMA declaration and [1:07:07] the town was not too much bigger than what your town is. Okay. Um and so [1:07:11] anyway, uh FEMA came in and it took us about 2 years to get everything back to [1:07:17] normal and everybody back where they belonged. And when we tallied up the [1:07:20] figures, we found that FEMA had contributed overall $3.5 million. [1:07:27] The voluntary organizations that came in with with Indiana Boad contributed over [1:07:33] $15.5 million, five times what FEMA brought in. That's in labor and [1:07:39] materials and everything else. It's putting them all together, you know, and [1:07:43] that's what your case manager is going to help you do is apply for anything and [1:07:47] everything that's available and squeeze to the last penny. Okay. [1:07:52] » Okay. >> Okay. So, just sit tight. I know it's [1:07:54] frustrating. I know y'all want answers now, but we can't give them some of the [1:07:58] things we don't know yet. >> And just make sure that you're [1:08:02] documenting everything. videos, photos, um lists, receipts, invoices, everything [1:08:09] that that you can possibly document. Document as long as it's safe to do so. [1:08:15] » Yeah. We got told we're not supposed to go back in ours anymore. [1:08:18] » Yeah. So, >> does that come from [1:08:20] » that came from Kinjun Navy? It came from FEMA because our ceiling's falling in. [1:08:25] The whole like foundation's falling. There's black mold like everything. So, [1:08:29] » sure. And mold's a real concern, right? These houses were soaked. Um, and and [1:08:35] here here's the thing. If you feel your home's unsafe, don't go back in it. Um, [1:08:41] right now, we're trying to work through the process of of helping you decide [1:08:45] whether your home's safe or not. But that's a liability if if we take that on [1:08:49] as a county or a city government, and we're telling you your home's not safe. [1:08:53] We want the experts to do that. And right now, the contact for [1:08:57] » So, right now, we don't have the experts in place to do that. So that takes [1:09:02] structural engineers and people that have degrees behind their name that that [1:09:06] I don't have. Um so I don't want to give you false hope that they're right here [1:09:10] getting ready to come condemn your house because that's just not the case. Um you [1:09:15] you as the homeowner have have more right over that than than we do as a [1:09:19] county or state. If you want something done to your home, it's your property. [1:09:24] But you know, you have to assume that risk if that's the case. unfortunately [1:09:29] until we get the pieces in place to help. So, and the last thing I want to [1:09:33] do is make a decision on somebody's home that that I'm wrong on. I don't want to [1:09:38] tell somebody you can't live there if it it would be perfectly fine. But I I'm [1:09:42] not an expert in that area. Um, so I want you guys to all hear the [1:09:46] information from the experts and not somebody else. What I would also caution [1:09:51] you on doing is not uh there's rumors, right? we have rumors about this can be [1:09:56] happening or this can be happening. If it's not coming from from official [1:10:00] sources, I would caution you on how you accept that information. And two, I [1:10:05] would vet it. So, if somebody says, "Today's the day to tear your house down [1:10:09] for free." Um, I would be very cautious. Uh, not that I'm discounting any of the [1:10:15] free help is amazing, right? It's not costing homeowners, but what's it doing [1:10:19] to your long-term future and getting the the max amount of of reimbursement you [1:10:24] can? I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just telling you to vet the [1:10:28] information you're hearing so that you're not u uh not making a decision [1:10:34] based on emotion because everybody's emotions are high. They're hurt, right? [1:10:38] They've lost everything. We have to really think about what we're doing, [1:10:43] especially when it comes to our properties and our homes. So, I hope [1:10:48] that helps answer. We've got a line behind you. So, [1:10:50] » I think the American Red Cross was wanting to say something, too. [1:10:53] » Did you have something else? >> It's okay. [1:10:55] » Yep. So, here's the thing. Red Cross is here. They're in town. If you see their [1:10:59] vest and them people around, please stop and talk to them. They're official [1:11:03] people to help you, right? So, um don't be afraid if you have more questions. [1:11:09] Don't be afraid to come up. Uh, call my number. I'll answer the best but but [1:11:14] also be straight with you. I'm not going to tell you something that I don't know [1:11:17] and I will get I'll try to find the answer to the best of my ability and get [1:11:21] back with you. But I this is a complicated thing. I've never been [1:11:26] through this just like you haven't. We're all kind of learning together. [1:11:30] It's painful. Um, but we'll get there. we just have patience and a little bit [1:11:34] of kindness towards each other and we'll make a a we'll make our families uh [1:11:40] proud of of what we've accomplished. So, go ahead, sir. [1:11:48] Uh thank you very much. I would like to say a big thank you to Cornerville, the [1:11:52] people, the equipment, the labor that was given, uh during this week. Um just [1:11:58] a quick question and I think a lot of people there's this uh Faget County um [1:12:02] community health um >> community foundation. [1:12:05] » Yeah, the community foundation been blown away with you know 160,000 that's [1:12:09] amazing. The the 50,000 they're going to uh designate to families um the [1:12:15] application the time frame things like that and like the $5,000 one was a [1:12:20] different setup alone. um if there's any way that you can put a window out there [1:12:24] for folks to uh when to expect something like that because they've got added [1:12:30] bills now to add you know different things whereas the donations have been [1:12:33] just amazing. I mean nobody's going to go hungry that's for sure. [1:12:36] » Yeah. Yeah. >> Um so but you know if I I know that's [1:12:39] immediate uh you know help immediate that comes in if we could have some sort [1:12:44] of a window of opportunity to find out when when to expect that so they know [1:12:49] how to plan whether they got to take a short-term loan from the bank or [1:12:52] something like that to you know to make things to keep things going. So [1:12:55] » so the County Community Foundation is an amazing partner. [1:13:00] » They publish information as soon as they know that. So, as soon as those [1:13:05] applications are open, it'll be everywhere. They they have the right [1:13:09] connections to make that message go far and wide. So, I would say stay tuned. I [1:13:14] if I get that information, I will pass it out just as soon as they they publish [1:13:18] it. >> And I think the 211 was like a initial [1:13:22] $5,000 window or $5,000 >> the state disaster relief fund. Yeah, [1:13:27] that was an initial $5,000 kind of to help you get through the next few weeks. [1:13:32] » Exactly. Exactly. you know, there's a lot of people that, you know, are [1:13:35] paycheck to paycheck and some of them couldn't work [1:13:37] » or, you know, because of the flood. So, just just just kind of a [1:13:42] » information on when that would be available. So, [1:13:44] » so that state disaster relief fund you can apply for now. [1:13:47] » Right. We've already applied or it's already been applied for, but yeah, just [1:13:50] to be able to know what to expect, >> how far we can go without, you know, [1:13:55] » Right. >> All right. That's that's all you Thank [1:13:57] you, >> sir. Hey. Yeah. I have a question. [1:14:02] » No, you're fine. You're fine. >> Did you get a confirmation that they got [1:14:06] all your information? [1:14:10] » We did not get a confirmation. >> Yeah, we did it yesterday. [1:14:16] » So, just to answer the question, um, so we can get through the rest of the folks [1:14:20] in line. Um, for the state disaster relief fund, it is, uh, at $5,000. [1:14:26] Unfortunately, um I I don't have a timeline for when those payments will be [1:14:32] dispersed, but when I do find that information out, I will communicate it [1:14:36] through um Wade's office. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Thank you [1:14:40] very much. >> Yep. No problem. [1:14:51] » Okay. >> Yeah. [1:14:53] So, uh, one thing I was just asking them about is, uh, there's SBA help. Um, but [1:15:01] we can't get that until the FEMA declaration for IAS been declared and [1:15:05] signed by the president. So, more information to come about that. Um, and [1:15:10] I'm I apologize for bringing it up, but I was researching it, forgot about it. [1:15:15] Um but um we're waiting on that declaration and once that happens that [1:15:20] will open up additional resources. So go ahead. [1:15:25] Um our situation, forgive my voice, it's been gone the last couple days. [1:15:31] Wade knows where we live and actually the neighbor our homes the original part [1:15:37] of our home was b date back to like 189093. [1:15:42] Our foundations and all are gone. where I'm at. The front part of my yard [1:15:47] was flat and that's where our home was and it's destroyed. We have a hill [1:15:52] behind us. We're wanting to build a new home on that hill, but we're going to [1:15:58] require things like dirt to be brought in to level that out and everything. Are [1:16:02] there going to be any resources for people who are going to build a new home [1:16:06] on that same piece of property? >> Yeah. So, I will say be patient. [1:16:12] » Help is coming. It just takes time to get through this red tape. And I can't [1:16:17] tell you everything they're going to be able to do because that's a huge [1:16:20] resource outside of my my realm of emergency management. But help is [1:16:25] coming. Be a little patient and please pay attention news. So, I'm sure the [1:16:29] Congress News Examiner is going to publish help documents to to get you the [1:16:33] resources. I'll be pushing messages. I think every government agency in in Fate [1:16:38] County is going to push uh information to help you get it. So, [1:16:42] » yeah. And again, you know, again, you have to be a little bit patient, but [1:16:45] your case manager is going to help you walk through that. They will have to [1:16:49] deal with the zoning and planning and you, you know, what you can do where and [1:16:52] do you have to build back on the same footprint or not, [1:16:54] » okay? >> They're going to walk you through all [1:16:56] that. They're going to hold your hand, okay? [1:16:57] » Okay. >> So, just sit tight. It's going to take a [1:17:00] couple weeks to get everybody a case manager. [1:17:02] » Okay? >> But you'll start seeing results then. [1:17:05] » Okay. Thank you. >> And and keep in mind, we're moving as [1:17:08] fast as we can. So, I'm already calling people. I've called a couple great [1:17:12] people today to be on that committee. Uh so we can get this process started. Uh [1:17:17] and I'm one person. So, you know, I I I'm reaching out. I've got my other team [1:17:22] guys helping me, stuff like that. Uh but we'll get there. It just takes a little [1:17:27] bit of time. This this caught everybody off guard, right? We weren't ready for a [1:17:31] flood. None of us were. Um we we might think we are, but what do they say? uh [1:17:36] your best play your best plans fall apart the minute it actually starts. So [1:17:42] um I can tell you we'll be better prepared [1:17:46] for the next one and more knowledgeable about it. So [1:17:55] » I think we'll do a couple more questions and I I really do need to get back to [1:17:59] work because if I'm here answering questions, I'm not working for you, [1:18:02] right? And I want to be there working for you. So go ahead. I have a few [1:18:05] questions, but they're short, I think. Um, so for the 211, so things don't get [1:18:10] bogged down. Um, my parents have filed for their home or done that report. They [1:18:16] also have Do their tenants need to do that individually or do my parents as a [1:18:21] landlord do that for them? >> Yep. They were tenants individually. [1:18:24] Yeah. They need to file their renters, they need to do their own so that they [1:18:28] » do anything for their um >> for the damage assessments. [1:18:34] Do does the homeowner have to be there? Like, how are you seeing that? Because I [1:18:37] know that we weren't there today. [1:18:43] » That's a great question. And you don't need to be home for those assessments to [1:18:46] take place. Um, in fact, a lot of them have already taken place. Okay. [1:18:51] » Um, so we needed to do those in order to get the presidential disaster [1:18:55] declaration. Um, so our teams already went through with FEMA and so they they [1:19:02] got the information and and the numbers that that we needed for that. [1:19:06] » Okay. Um, [1:19:10] so you say not to take things out to let them see everything, but the volunteers [1:19:16] and the >> just not demo. So like they're all [1:19:20] complete guts. So >> we've taken advantage of the volunteers [1:19:24] that have been wonderful. So that's okay. You're just talking about don't [1:19:28] demo it completely. Level it, right? Don't do that. [1:19:32] » So at least But all the debris is okay out here and make sure everything that [1:19:36] they need the documents documented. If your home's destroyed, we don't want you [1:19:40] especially if there's a possibility you can rebuild it. We don't want you [1:19:44] destroying repaired. So [1:19:46] » yeah. And so pictures, pictures, pictures inside your house if your [1:19:50] stuff's still in there. If you can video it, [1:19:53] » just walk around and and you know what's in your home. Take lots of pictures. Um [1:19:58] and do take it out because if it got wet, it needs to come out of that house [1:20:02] or the mold is growing like crazy. Okay. >> Let them take it to the dump site as [1:20:06] well at the airport. Correct. >> If it wants to be dumped or if you need [1:20:09] to save it, then you put it in a different pile. Of course. [1:20:11] » Well, no. It's all >> okay. [1:20:13] » Is that >> So I will I will tell you. So the city [1:20:16] is running and managing that dump site with the help of volunteers. Now u [1:20:23] FEMA has a specific process for how you should align your debris in a curb [1:20:29] because it really needs to be picked up a certain way, weighed a certain way, [1:20:33] and then ticketed in and out of a a a dump site that's able to take that. [1:20:39] Well, the that didn't really happen. So now somebody at a dump site is going to [1:20:45] have to sort this material. [music] Um, but we want you to get it out of [1:20:49] your house. And if you haven't had it hauled away yet, there will be people [1:20:53] come around and pick that up. It's completely up to you if you want to take [1:20:57] advantage of that. Somebody will sort that out and and make that right in the [1:21:02] end process, right? So um, please get it out of your house. And if your house is [1:21:08] savable and it's just wet, start cleaning it. There's plenty of supplies [1:21:13] to to help with that and we'll get volunteers to you. That's what Team [1:21:16] Rubicon does. The Cinjun Navy does that. So, um [1:21:21] » that's including carpet, wet and drywall. [1:21:24] » Yeah. They'll they'll they completely will tear everything out that they need [1:21:28] to to get it to that point to where if it [1:21:32] can be rebuilt, they'll do that >> and haul it off the curb. That's not [1:21:37] that won't affect like >> So I would let I would let the people [1:21:40] that pick it up deal with that. You guys just get it to the curb. [1:21:45] » It's almost putting a cat back in a bag with trying to separate it now. Um [1:21:50] because it so much has went into the single pile, but that that's somebody [1:21:56] else's wheelhouse. I can't really speak to what they're going to do with that. [1:22:01] » Hi. >> Hi. Um, so I have a question regarding [1:22:05] what the mayor announced on was it Wednesday or Thursday? [1:22:11] » Thursday. >> Thursday with the teams coming in and [1:22:16] having the homes demolished. >> Um, so that is vetted because it was the [1:22:22] mayor that made the announcement on Facebook on the city of Connorsville [1:22:26] page. >> Okay. [1:22:28] My biggest question through all of this has been the inspections that are being [1:22:34] done to the homes and how are the homeowners supposed to find out what the [1:22:39] results are of the inspections that are being done to know what the status is of [1:22:46] their home, if it can be rebuilt, if it needs to be torn down, etc. [1:22:50] » Right? So, the mayor made the announcement on Thursday to come into [1:22:54] the city hall to fill out the form to have the house demolished because it was [1:22:59] going to be done for free. My mother is 69 years old. Her house was paid off. [1:23:04] She worked for 40 years. >> She can't afford a mortgage to repair [1:23:11] her home. So, we made the decision because we were told that FEMA and other [1:23:16] inspectors had been around and deemed her house as destroyed. [1:23:20] We filled out the paperwork >> to have it demolished. [1:23:25] » Now we're hearing, don't have your house demolished until FEMA comes around. [1:23:29] Well, we were told that FEMA has already come around and done inspections. So, [1:23:33] has FEMA come around or has FEMA not come around? [1:23:36] » Let me clear this up. FEMA has come and done damage assessments, right? They're [1:23:41] looking at the destruction. They're making assessments so they can work out [1:23:44] their funding. The mayor had an opportunity to come to help answer your [1:23:49] questions. I think he couldn't make it tonight. Uh, but [1:23:52] » that really, >> right, let let's try to keep it going. I [1:23:57] We have our our our issues, right? We'll deal with those in the appropriate time. [1:24:02] What we're telling you is listen to we're emergency management, the state. [1:24:08] We're trying to get you through this the best way we can to keep the dollars from [1:24:13] FEMA coming um once they start coming. Um, I can't speak to what they they [1:24:20] suggest you do. They are running the city the way they feel they need to. [1:24:25] Please direct those questions to the appropriate leadership there. [1:24:28] » Okay. And I understand that, but I don't want my mom to make a decision to have [1:24:32] her house torn down if it should not be torn down yet. [1:24:35] » So, the best policy is always to be slower to do something than jump because [1:24:40] there's free labor may make it a little difficult, [1:24:44] » right? I understand that. were telling that FEMA had come in and done the [1:24:46] inspections already. So, has FEMA not come in and done inspections? [1:24:50] » Great. >> So, there are no FEMA inspectors that [1:24:55] have been here. >> Thank you. Okay. So, we need to contact [1:24:58] the city and have her name removed from that list. [1:25:02] » Okay. >> Thank [applause] you. [1:25:05] » You're very welcome. Um, I just want to be very clear, okay? We have done damage [1:25:12] assessments. That is not an inspection of your home. That is not any reason to [1:25:20] identify anything other than there has been damage in your community. That's [1:25:26] it. So, >> why was the utility company putting out [1:25:29] calls that your house was on demolition? Why did that happen? [1:25:34] » I can't speak to that. I can only talk about what damage assessments were done [1:25:39] and all all we did was identify how many homes met the federal criteria [1:25:45] um for us to put in our declaration letter to show the need for us to get [1:25:51] that federal assistance. That is the only thing that happened. FEMA [1:25:55] inspectors have not been here. Um FEMA assistance for individuals is not [1:26:00] available yet. We're working really hard to try to get it. Um, but if anyone [1:26:05] comes to your home and says that they're a FEMA inspector, that is not true. All [1:26:10] of us from the state and FEMA have these badges. Please feel free to ask us for [1:26:16] them. We will never tell you no. We're not going to show you this. Okay. Yes, [1:26:21] sir. I was outside my homestead. [1:26:33] » Yeah, that >> my house. [1:26:39] » So, [1:26:45] » I will have to look into that. if you can give that information to Wade. Um, [1:26:51] we I don't have any answers for that right now. Um, but there, to my [1:26:58] knowledge, there has been no FEMA inspectors here to do that. Our damage [1:27:02] assessment teams were out looking at what the damage assessment, you know, [1:27:07] totals were to help us get that federal declaration. Um, but if you can take [1:27:12] that information, we'll >> So, yeah, before you you leave, let's [1:27:16] let's talk. I'll write down your information. But she's right. We've had [1:27:19] one person that I've seen that came to my office and told me they were here and [1:27:24] they went around with IDHS staff and what they do, they don't go in homes. [1:27:28] They look at the damaged homes. They write that down and they they will talk [1:27:33] to you if you're out there um give you some information. They So, you got to [1:27:39] remember when they're doing damage assessment, destroyed means one thing, [1:27:43] right? Condemned is something that they they're not here to do. They're not here [1:27:47] to condemn those homes or say you can't live there. They're here to assess the [1:27:52] damage uh to the structure so that we can meet a certain dollar threshold to [1:27:57] uh be able to apply for that federal declaration. [1:28:01] So, yeah, give me your information. We'll get with the state and have that [1:28:05] conversation to see uh what actually transpired if that helps. [1:28:10] » And that's why you need to not demolish your house because the only people that [1:28:15] have been here so far is to get the FEMA declaration to see if we had the [1:28:19] numbers. Once we get a declaration, then they got to the FEMA people have to come [1:28:24] in and with you decide how much money they're going to give you. Okay? Don't [1:28:31] demolish your house. a case like yours, like he said, give him the information. [1:28:36] We'll we'll find it. And if these were impostors, we'll find them. Okay. [1:28:41] » Can you put that on the city mayor's website? [1:28:43] » I cannot. So, here's the thing. The mayor runs the city. I am a county [1:28:47] employee. I work for the Faget County Commissioners. I I apologize. I can't [1:28:52] force the mayor to do anything. I can't force the county to do anything. I work [1:28:57] for them. But I'm here to help you not make rash decisions uh that will hurt us [1:29:02] in the long run. If you're somebody like this gentleman and you've already made [1:29:07] that decision because somebody said that you could get with me, we'll get in [1:29:12] contact and we'll see what is going on with that. [1:29:16] » Am I up? >> Please. [1:29:18] » All right. Uh anyways, I'm going to beat this dead horse a little bit about the [1:29:22] demo. Uh though I my hearts go out to all these people that lived over there [1:29:27] and lost everything. Uh never been through that myself and hope I never do. [1:29:32] » I came tonight. I think I spoke to you. I came tonight uh to sign the papers to [1:29:37] demo the house. >> Um and Malia is that [1:29:42] » No, she I think Okay. Malia I think left. [1:29:45] » I spoke to her and she said to come tonight and sign the papers. [1:29:49] » Well, I don't have any papers for you to sign. Sorry. I had two contractors look [1:29:54] at our house, said it was demoed. The city called and said it was on the demo, [1:29:58] » destroyed list. Here's my issue. I'm a landlord. [1:30:02] » Um, so I own the property, but right now it's like a uh I don't know, amusement [1:30:08] park over there with people driving through and looking at properties and [1:30:11] walking across your land and stuff. I hold a risk because of the liability on [1:30:16] that. I have insurance on the property. I didn't have flood insurance. It wasn't [1:30:21] in a flood plane, >> right? [1:30:22] » Uh, two sides of my foundation's gone. But my issue is the longer I let that [1:30:27] house stand, I hold some liability when my insurance [1:30:32] says, "Hey, your house was destroyed. We're cancelelling you." Now I'm 100% at [1:30:37] risk. >> Mhm. [1:30:38] » Because I don't even have insurance, period. [1:30:40] » Right. >> So, [1:30:42] that's my issue. And that's why I'm like, "Hey, I've had contractors come [1:30:46] in. They told me it's not worth rebuilding. The city said demo it, but [1:30:50] now you guys are saying don't demo. But me and my insurance is in a real bad [1:30:55] spot right now because we hold risk if somebody walks through the house, they [1:30:59] fall through the floor, they get cut on all the windows that are busted out of [1:31:03] it. >> They're coming after me and my insurance [1:31:06] company. >> So, and to your point, this is exactly [1:31:09] your decision. You're the property owner. Like I said, I can't tell you to [1:31:13] demo or not demo your home. What the city does on their side is what the city [1:31:19] does on their side. I'm trying to give you the best advice to get us through. [1:31:23] » Let me ask you this, Cinjun Nation, Navy, or whoever. Is there help to [1:31:27] secure the house? >> Well, uh, that would be we would need to [1:31:31] I I don't think there's enough law enforcement to do that. That would be [1:31:35] » saying to board it up. >> Oh, yes. Yes. So, if you're having [1:31:38] issues with boarding up, these groups will come around and board your house [1:31:41] up. Team Rubicon will do that. uh if you're not able to to do that, that's [1:31:46] what the >> We did some of it, but we didn't go [1:31:48] overboard because I thought, well, why do I want to waste all the time and [1:31:52] resources if I'm demoing it? >> Sure. [1:31:54] » Uh you know, most of the inside of the house is still intact, but I'm like, why [1:31:59] pull out the carpet and the drywall if we're demoing it, [1:32:02] » right? >> So, I have a huge mold farm over there [1:32:05] probably now. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. [1:32:06] » Uh but we're in limbo, you know? I'm ready to go ahead and move forward and [1:32:10] demo and rebuild, but now I'm hearing don't do that. [1:32:13] » Well, we're doing we're telling you not to do that because we want to get you [1:32:17] the maximum amount of dollars. And if FEMA does get in here or when they get [1:32:21] in here and they need to see something, if the house is gone, what are they [1:32:25] going to to assess? >> And I get these things don't happen [1:32:28] quick and I get a lot of people lost their whole livelihoods. [1:32:31] » It's heartbreaking. >> But but as a landlord, like I said, we [1:32:34] hold a lot of liabilities. >> Oh yeah, absolutely. You're making a [1:32:38] really good point. There is a difference between landlord and homeowner. Okay. As [1:32:43] far as FEMA's concerned and everybody else, how many apartment units do you [1:32:49] have? >> Um, I think we have like three or four [1:32:52] right now in total. >> Okay. I don't know if you heard me while [1:32:56] ago if you own more than four. >> I did. [1:32:59] » Okay. You're considered a business >> and I'm also a realtor. So, I know [1:33:04] » given the state laws any more than four, I believe. Right. Exactly. [1:33:08] » You have to be licensed, I think. >> Yeah. You have to make and you should be [1:33:11] fully insured and FEMA won't have anything to do with you anyway. [1:33:15] Probably. Okay. Uh and as he said, you know, it's your decision. I understand [1:33:20] your liability and you're right. You could have it boarded up completely if [1:33:24] it's just a matter of keeping people out of the house, [1:33:27] » right? >> You know, wrap it with a lot of uh [1:33:29] yellow tape and uh enter at your own risk. uh you might want to consult an [1:33:36] attorney and ask uh there is a number that [1:33:40] » state legal >> yeah that's Indiana state legal aid uh [1:33:44] they're doing probono um counsel or consulting on on legal things um yeah it [1:33:52] is a tough one but as a landlord you are you're different than the homeowner as [1:33:57] far as FEMA is going so >> so are you saying virtually as a land [1:34:00] owner there is not going to be any FEMA No, I'm not saying as a as a not a land [1:34:06] owner, but a >> I mean, I'm I'm a land owner and also [1:34:10] the landlord, but you know, my total investment's been destroyed. So, [1:34:15] » Yes. Yes. Okay. But all of your apartments are in that one building. [1:34:18] » It's just one. It's a single house. It's a single house. And much like the young [1:34:23] lady that was sitting over here and spoke when I bought our house, our all [1:34:28] all of our properties are on a blanket policy, [1:34:30] » right? Um, I knew it was close to a flood zone. I checked the FEMA map. My [1:34:35] insurance agent and I spoke and he said, "It's not in a flood plane. You don't [1:34:39] need flood insurance." >> Yeah. [1:34:41] » So, we didn't have flood insurance. Everything else was insured on the [1:34:44] property. >> So, I didn't lose all my possessions, [1:34:48] but I lost a valuable asset that I >> How good How how good are you with [1:34:53] computer as far as doing a Google search and stuff? [1:34:56] » I'm fairly savvy. >> Okay. I would first of all go out to the [1:34:59] FEMA page and there's the questions and answers thing and you can actually put [1:35:02] in any kind of questions. >> Sure. [1:35:04] » See if and and reward it several ways to get, you know, uh several opinions. You [1:35:09] can even do that right on Google or AI >> and just ask, you know, if I'm I'm a [1:35:17] landlord with three or four apartments, whatever it is, and should I tear the [1:35:20] house down before FEMA sees it? And then uh just I'll close with this but even [1:35:26] the land owner landlords will get a case manager. Is that correct? [1:35:30] » Yes. >> Do you know the timing on that? [1:35:33] » Okay. >> How do you get your case worker? [1:35:36] » So >> the case workers the Red Cross [1:35:40] manager I'm sorry. >> Yeah. your case managers, they will come [1:35:44] once this the committee is put together for that and then they will work off the [1:35:50] 211 list to reach out to those numbers. >> As long as there's not a glitch with the [1:35:56] 21, >> right? [1:35:57] » So, it's not going to hurt you to go in and do that application again. If you're [1:36:02] doubled in there, I will see the duplication. Um, so, you know, I would [1:36:07] make sure I was on that list somehow. So, [1:36:11] » thank you. >> Thank you for your question. [1:36:13] » What you're saying is if you had insurance, flood insurance, people won't [1:36:17] help you or >> No, no, no. We're not saying that. [1:36:20] » No. So, what we're saying is if you had flood insurance or didn't have flood [1:36:25] insurance, file a claim with your insurance carrier, let them deny you, [1:36:29] and keep track of all of that information. The time's coming where [1:36:33] those questions will be answered um to help you get through this process. [1:36:37] Honestly, >> go ahead. [1:36:41] I think we'll do the last two after you and then I really do need to get to uh [1:36:46] getting back to work. So, >> okay. First of all, I want to I want to [1:36:50] thank the Red Cross. >> Yes, absolutely. [1:36:52] » Lady came over, took all my information stuff. Very good job. I well pleased. [1:36:58] Cage and Navy come over there and done a lot of work in the house. I wish I'd [1:37:04] come back and finish, but that's a different story. [1:37:07] If you need somebody to come back and finish, let us know. [1:37:12] » Well, we'll see what happens tomorrow. How many show I got to show up and then [1:37:18] only one from the city that I've seen over there on a Howard Street [1:37:24] is the assistant fire chief came over. He wanted to know [1:37:28] you going to you want your house tore down. I said [1:37:33] not planning on it. Asked him, why are you asking? said, "Well, we'll tear it [1:37:37] down for free. The city will." And I said, "Well, my plans are to stay [1:37:43] here." And no one else from the city, mayor, no one else has never been in [1:37:49] there except for the assistant chief. And you, Wade, you know me. [1:37:53] » For a long time, >> a long, long time, man. And that's [1:37:57] basically all I got to say. They just >> Yeah. [1:38:00] » They said I basically had two choices. Tear it down or rebuild. [1:38:03] » Right. Well, my plans are to re stay there, but it's getting tough. [1:38:09] » Again, I can't speak for what the city's doing. They have their own their own [1:38:14] » thing. I I wish it was more streamlined, but um that we are two separate [1:38:20] entities, right? And they get to choose what they're going to do. Um [1:38:24] » I want to thank all the volunteers, >> man. That's they've been they have been [1:38:28] amazing. They've helped our community. >> Point [1:38:30] » all of them. All of them. They've been great. Yeah, if somebody's hungry, then [1:38:35] they they're not getting the message that there's a lot of food out there. [1:38:38] » A couple good meals out there. >> That's all I have to say. Thank you for [1:38:42] » Thank you. Go ahead. >> It's extremely confusing to I'm [1:38:45] learning, you know, that you air the county and the city's on a whole [1:38:49] separate separate track and homeowners are getting confused are getting offers [1:38:54] to free tear down and then you're you're fearing that if you don't take their [1:38:58] offer and you end up needing to tear it down, then you know who's going to pay [1:39:01] for that, right? But my my two primary questions mainly for Jane is I know [1:39:05] you've been doing this a long long time. So what [1:39:10] » oh sorry so you've been doing this a long long time and um thank you for your [1:39:15] service. All of you truly um the road ahead it sounds like a couple years [1:39:21] process for people who might who do want to stick with uh getting aid and [1:39:27] volunteer help and there's there's help for rebuilding help with materials help [1:39:32] with everything but it sounds like it's a couple year process is that [1:39:36] » not per household but to get every household. [1:39:39] » Okay. >> I mean I'm you know there will be some I [1:39:42] mean you're going to have a list and you're going to pick them off as you go. [1:39:44] You see what I'm saying? Right. And so I guess if we have any [1:39:49] hope of saving our home, continue mitigation and [1:39:52] » and don't tear it down. >> Right. [1:39:54] » Okay. And did I ask any >> Well, the m the mitigation part. So, we [1:39:58] got to go back in now and try to prevent the mold and all of that. [1:40:03] » I would do my best to do that. Um, but if you need help, that's what our [1:40:07] resources, our volunteers are for, to do that for you. uh you know if you give [1:40:12] them access to go in and take care of that that's what they're going to do. [1:40:15] » That would be fabulous. Okay. Awesome. Okay. That's ba that's basically the [1:40:19] same thing I'm asking is, you know, we stopped. We absolutely stopped because [1:40:24] Okay, >> we still have water in the basement. [1:40:27] » Yeah. >> And we were told not to pump it out [1:40:29] anymore because the walls are going to cave and it could be very dangerous and [1:40:33] I don't want anybody down there getting hurt. Um my sister's house that already [1:40:37] happened when they were pumping and so we have stopped everything. There's mold [1:40:41] growing on the walls now. It's getting worse by the moment. We don't have [1:40:45] anything in there. The windows are closed. We have stopped and we signed a [1:40:49] paper saying okay tear it down. Now we're hearing don't tear it down. And [1:40:55] now we're really confused on what to do now because [1:40:58] » trying to make the confusion. I'm I'm really not I'm trying to give you the [1:41:02] best advice to get you the most help with resources. [1:41:06] » Yeah. >> And but they haven't been coming to us [1:41:10] and there's when we don't know like we don't know where to go to get the [1:41:15] resources >> coming and that will be pushed out. [1:41:18] » But we're not there. >> Okay. I'm sorry. I've still got the mic, [1:41:22] don't I? >> We're not We're not at the home because [1:41:26] we've >> you need you need to get team Rubicon or [1:41:28] those guys out there to take a look and help you muck out the house. Get the wet [1:41:34] stuff out because more and more the the longer it sits, the more it's going to [1:41:38] cause to put back together because of the mold and everything that's growing [1:41:41] in there. Okay. >> Yeah. No, that's why we just [1:41:43] » Has anybody told you that your house is >> it's destroyed? [1:41:47] » Not condemned. Just >> who told you that? [1:41:50] » That was on the list from the Cinjun Navy. [1:41:53] » So, we're being told to >> We went to the We went to the city hall [1:41:57] and we were on that list at the city hall. I called the Cinjun Navy. called [1:42:02] the Kinjun Nova phone number and um we were on the list. [1:42:07] » Okay. But on the list doesn't mean anything until an engineer or somebody [1:42:10] looks at it to see if it's structurally sound. [1:42:12] » Okay. So, but nobody was telling us, okay, you need to wait. There's you need [1:42:17] to tell your house and again doing it and telling us we're not going to get [1:42:21] more funding if we tear it down. It's not that you won't get more, but if the [1:42:25] in the FEMA inspectors can look at the damage themselves, [1:42:31] » they'll give a more accurate amount to you. [1:42:36] » If you just have to go by pictures, they may look at it and say, [1:42:39] » "Oh, well, yeah, that's that, you know, I'm sorry. I didn't see any cracks or [1:42:43] anything in those pictures, so we're not going to pay you anything." [1:42:46] » Okay. >> Okay. Then why is the Cinjun Navy here [1:42:48] telling people that they should not be here telling people to go ahead and tear [1:42:52] their houses down? >> No, they should not be telling people [1:42:54] that. >> So why are they here telling people [1:42:56] that? >> They're very good at some of the things [1:42:58] they're doing, but they should not. >> She's not here to answer our question, [1:43:01] » but she says that it was not her, so it might be one of their people. [1:43:05] » Okay. >> So if we don't tear it down, [1:43:08] » it was it was her saying that we were on the list for the house being considered [1:43:13] destroyed. and she explained what the destroyed meant. [1:43:16] » Let me clear that up for you. So, when we do and when our search and rescue [1:43:21] team went out, they categorize houses as they're searching for for victims, [1:43:26] people that are hurt, their primary job is to search for people to rescue them. [1:43:32] um the people that that responders weren't able to get to that search team [1:43:36] comes in that. As they're doing that, they're doing damage assessments to help [1:43:41] us find out what homes are damaged. And they have four main categories: minor, [1:43:47] affected, major, and destroyed. What that does is tells FEMA to look more [1:43:52] closely at these houses. That doesn't mean that your house is needs condemned. [1:43:59] That that's exactly what it means. that tells our search and rescue team said, [1:44:03] "You need to look at these houses in this light and pay attention to this." [1:44:08] That I think is where they've got a hold of the list and they've used that [1:44:12] without understanding it and it's caused a lot of issues. Okay, [1:44:17] » that's why it's really important to uh hear stuff from emergency management [1:44:22] because I'm dealing with FEMA in this state on what I can give and what they [1:44:27] can do. I would be very careful if anybody walks up and says your house is [1:44:31] condemned. There has to be ordinances in place for that. There has to be [1:44:36] structural engineers. There has to be health code violations that with people [1:44:40] that have those degrees and those those uh roles to perform that function. [1:44:45] » I spent hours sitting over there for two days here because I heard that there [1:44:48] were going to be people coming around to do that [1:44:51] » and then nobody came and nobody came. Nobody's coming. [1:44:54] » I hurt for you. I do. I hurt for you. >> Except for the cinjun lady. She [1:44:57] personally called me to tell me that. >> Right. So [1:45:00] » that our houses are destroyed and we need to have them tore down. [1:45:04] » That's where the confusions come in because they don't understand the FEMA [1:45:08] paperwork and the the side the emergency management deals with. And I hate that [1:45:12] for you. I so much. But your case particularly if you have floodwaters in [1:45:18] your basement, right? You cannot just pump it out because the ground will cave [1:45:22] it in. It has to be done slow and methodical while the ground outside is [1:45:26] drying. >> Right. So, [1:45:28] » so we had it pumped twice >> and it came back in. [1:45:31] » Right. >> Yes. And so we left it alone and we've [1:45:36] left it alone and now the ground's drier than it was. [1:45:39] » Right. >> But I'm sure it's still moist there in [1:45:41] that particular area. >> Maybe a foot of water down every day. [1:45:45] » Well, we're probably at around a foot now. But I'm scared to death to have [1:45:49] anybody be in that basement. I'm just afraid that that something had hurt. [1:45:53] » So, when these houses start crumbling, when they're so ate up with the black [1:45:56] mold and stuff, who's going to tear them down at a later date? [1:45:59] » Let's let's start back again. >> Okay. First of all, and and the Cinjun [1:46:05] Navy is trying very hard. Have a lot of respect for the work they do. I was [1:46:10] there in Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina when they started and uh I've [1:46:14] watched them grow. They're doing well, but they don't have all the answers. [1:46:18] Okay? They're only like not that old yet. They're growing. Okay. [1:46:24] No organization can tell you. I can't walk in there and [1:46:29] tell you your house is condemned or your house needs to be torn down. That's only [1:46:34] the structural engineer that is going to be able to really tell you that unless [1:46:38] you've been told that by somebody you know and trust as a structural engineer. [1:46:44] » Yes. >> Don't tear your Don't let them tear your [1:46:46] house down, please. Okay. Um, >> what about the mitigation? [1:46:51] » What about >> now the mitigation part? [1:46:53] » Going to tear it down. We're going to get volunteers to come help. [1:46:56] » So, the mitigation, I would like you to connect to team Rubicon who's behind me. [1:47:01] Okay. And have them out take a look and see if they can muck out the house and [1:47:06] finish pumping it out and that sort of thing. He he'll have people [1:47:10] » What we can do is if it's not safe to go in the house, [1:47:15] » then we can't go in, >> right? But we'll have you sign a a right [1:47:19] of entry because every everything in our process everything is legal is you allow [1:47:25] us to come into the house first. We'll look and see what damage is and then uh [1:47:31] we'll send if if if we can do something. >> We brief you and say, "Okay, this is [1:47:37] what we see. This it looks like we can do something here and we'll tell you [1:47:43] what we can do." >> Okay. Um, and then what will happen is [1:47:47] follow on there will be a team that will come in and actually do the work. [1:47:51] » Okay. So you we we signed a paper saying you can come in and then you get hurt. [1:47:56] What happens then? >> They're signed. [1:47:58] » They're insured. So it's not going to come on us. [1:47:59] » You get hurt then that's on us. >> Okay. [1:48:02] » Yeah. >> The good thing about VOAD partners is [1:48:06] they all have their own liability insurance. [1:48:09] » Okay. >> Okay. So, it won't come back on you and [1:48:12] it won't come back on the city or the county. [1:48:14] » All right. So, I'm hoping I can get us off the list. But wait, I have one more [1:48:17] question for you as far as can we check with you somehow to find out if we are [1:48:22] on that list for the 211. I did it twice. [1:48:25] » Call 211 and ask. That's about the only way. Unless [1:48:29] » I can't You don't have like an address. >> To do everybody really quick, but I have [1:48:33] the list. That's right. Office. So, if if you email me or or text me, uh my [1:48:40] number's out there or I can give it to you before you leave. I can check for [1:48:44] you. >> And that's the thing is I haven't really [1:48:46] » I don't have Facebook, so I don't really have that information readily available [1:48:51] to me. Thankfully, my sister's on there, I think. So, thankfully, I'm just I [1:48:55] really >> And if you notice, I don't push a lot of [1:48:57] information because I don't have a lot of the answers yet. So I push the [1:49:01] information that I feels I'm accurate with and that I have the data and the [1:49:05] yeah the the the people to back >> but it would be nice to just have that [1:49:09] information sent to us that you are working on getting information and right [1:49:12] now we don't have any information so that we know that somebody is actually [1:49:16] out there doing something because we don't know we're just going with what [1:49:19] volunteers came to us that's all we had. It's a lot of chatter and you know a lot [1:49:24] of a lot of stuff goes around. Yeah. Once Team Rubicon if they can do the [1:49:28] muck out for you and everything. >> They'll let the house dry out and then [1:49:31] we'll send probably the Southern Baptist in to do the mold remediation. Okay. [1:49:37] They use the chemical that and you only have to stay out of the house a few [1:49:40] hours after they do that. Um but they are just every bit as good as any [1:49:46] » commercial mold remediation company that would charge you over $10,000. And it's [1:49:50] all free to use. >> Okay. [1:49:53] » So, do you have a question real quick? Because if not, I'm I'm gonna kind of [1:49:57] cut this off because I gotta get back to work. So, I know we can go around this [1:50:02] for a long time, but I want to make sure if you felt like you needed to ask a [1:50:05] question, you had the opportunity. Again, our commissioners, our county [1:50:10] government's working hard to help. Um, and I can only offer you what I know to [1:50:15] be accurate. >> Yes, sir. [1:50:19] clean out now. We keep it out on the beach. [1:50:23] » So, somebody will come around and pick that up. [1:50:26] » Yeah, they have been right. That's We're worried. [1:50:30] » So, this is not going to come back on you if they pick that trash up and take [1:50:33] it to the dump somewhere. That's going to be sorted out at a later time. You're [1:50:37] not going to have Am I missing the question? [1:50:40] » Yeah, it's kind of confusing because you're It's like this stuff has to be [1:50:45] » It [clears throat] does >> invested, but an individual. [1:50:54] Will our reimbursement or help be lessened because we don't have all of [1:51:00] those? >> No. No. So, so here's the thing. All [1:51:03] that trash is going to be weighed. All that debris is going to be weighed. It's [1:51:07] going to be separated and weighed and that will go towards our county. Now, to [1:51:12] your point, I had a lady from Cambridge said, "Hey, can we bring stuff to your [1:51:15] dump today?" I said, "No, because that's going to hurt your county getting [1:51:19] reimbursement for that debris and it's going to help Fyet County." So, I wanted [1:51:23] to be honest with her and say, "No, you can't dump here." [1:51:26] » But they are, >> but I I I am not controlling the dump [1:51:30] honestly. Um, that that's above my pay grade. And I hate to be I hate to say [1:51:36] that because I want to give you the answers you need. Um, but I just can't [1:51:41] that it's not my my area. Where do we get your information? [1:51:49] » So, I would go I would go to County's government website. My contact [1:51:55] information, my email is on there. Go to the government button. Click that and it [1:52:01] will list all the departments. I'm listed on that. I'm also on the city's [1:52:05] website as an emergency manager for the county, but we put it there because I [1:52:10] don't think they have an emergency manager. [1:52:12] » Thank you. So, thank you all for your time. I [1:52:15] appreciate it. I hope this helped. And stay tuned for information. Go ahead, [1:52:20] please. Yeah. I don't want to I don't want you not to. Yeah. [1:52:24] » I just had a couple things. Uh is the state relief fund and 211 separate [1:52:28] things or when you do it, they merge together? [1:52:30] » So, the state 211 is an intake form that's telling us that you need [1:52:35] assistance. The state disaster relief fund is a grant through Right. So that's [1:52:41] something totally different, but we've got to capture that so that we can vet [1:52:46] that, yeah, you've been affected by this flood, you know, they can at the state [1:52:52] level decide who gets those funding based on the information they have. [1:52:56] » Um, >> do you think if you plan on rebuilding, [1:52:59] should you get flood insurance now or should you wait? [1:53:02] » I would always say get flood insurance as soon and keep it covered as soon as [1:53:08] you can. >> Okay. So, and I don't know what that [1:53:11] process is, but I would get flood insurance. [1:53:13] » I have other ones, but I'm not going to keep you. [1:53:14] » So, hey, go to the website on the county and get my email, email me your [1:53:18] questions. I will respond. I have I can honestly say I've received 80 to 100 [1:53:23] calls a day and I'm trying to get through everything. So, be patient. [1:53:28] » Yep. All right. Thank you all. >> Thank you. We have two rules signed with [1:53:33] the city to have their houses [1:53:39] » [music]