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Elena. We can test Laurence sound. If you can hear me.

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Yes I can. Let's do that. If Laurence, we can't hear.

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Lauren is there. Is there muted?

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Why am I hearing this here? Yeah. One second Lauren, we

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need to unmute. Also need to be promoted

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because she's coming in on my zoom over here.

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I don't know what Elena just said. Because we need to make.

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Speakers. It's me. Is it possible to I to

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give flyers to. Is it possible to give these movies speaking?

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This is the international audience. So.

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Okay. All right. Okay. Lauren, let's hear you.

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Do you guys hear that? No, we still can't hear her.

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Okay, that's not gonna work. Okay.

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Can I identify him right now? But we're going to do roll call.

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District one supervisor John Gioia here. District two

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supervisor Candice Anderson here. District four supervisor

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Ken Carlson here. District five supervisor Chanel skills.

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Preston here. District three chair. Supervisor Dianne

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Burgess. And I'm here. And I think we

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can do the Pledge of Allegiance. Is that work for

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you, Tom? Or do we need to wait?

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I think we should wait on everything. I think that, Madam

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Chair, you can announce that there is a service disruption.

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Um, so under the new disruption policy that the board adopted,

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you have to announce that, and then we can go into closed

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session to me while they're working on it. And then when

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they fix it, we can come back out, and then you can take

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public comment on the closed session.

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So I think what I'm going to do is use your words where the

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announcement of the service interruption is that.

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Yes. Service disruption. Yes. And so we're going to go

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to closed session and then we'll come back.

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We're not we don't take public comment.

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Well the public because of the service disruption, the public

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can't participate. In the closed session. Public

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comment. Yes. But they'll have that

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opportunity when we come back because we are authorized to go

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in the closed session right now. Okay.

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So we can do public comment on the closed session after we get

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back. Yes. Alrighty. Uh, we expect closed session to be

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maybe 15 minutes, so we'll be back in. So we will be back.

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And. And. Closed session. Is there

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anything to report out. And then we're going to do closed.

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Um, will do public comments on the closed session.

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Uh, there is nothing to report. Okay. Jamie's not here. Um. Are

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there any public comments for closed session? There's Jamie.

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Sorry. Are there? We're looking to see if there's any public

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comments for closed session. Thank you. Chair, if there are

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any callers or zoom participants who would like to

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speak on an item that's on the closed session agenda, please

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press pound two. If you're on the phone or raise your hand in

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the zoom app. There are no comments.

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Thank you. Uh, if you have been watching so far this morning,

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we have been running around dealing with some technical

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difficulties and trying to move around. So we appreciate

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everybody's patience. I am going to take us back to item

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two, which is the Pledge of Allegiance. Please join me.

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Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to

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the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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I really, really like today's inspirational thought. If you

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want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else. From Booker T

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Washington. All right. We're going to go to item five, which

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is to consider consent items. Uh, Miss Nino, is there

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anything that you would like to pull?

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Good morning, chair Bergus and board members, I'm requesting

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to pull C 29. Um, and also C 82 and C 82 will not return.

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Alrighty. Are there any others? Um. Quick comment. Just. I got

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a text message from staff saying that the zoom is muted,

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and I don't know if that's been correct. So implying that

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people on zoom cannot hear us. I believe the zoom was muted.

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It should not be any more. Uh, let's get communication.

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Okay. In fact, I did just get a text just now. Say now we can.

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Okay. Thank you so much. And I apologize for interrupting. I

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just know we've had a few technical difficulties this

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morning. We are all in this together. We

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are a team, and so we appreciate everybody helping us

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make it work. Right. All right, so any other items to pull. So,

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uh, neither of these items need to be discussed later.

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Correct? Correct. Thank you. Okay. Are there any

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public comments for the consent items?

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If there are any callers or zoom participants who would

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like to speak on an item on the consent calendar, which is item

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C1, through C 116, please press pound two if you're on the

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phone, or raise your hand in the zoom app. We do have a

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comment. The next speaker is Felicia.

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Please accept the invitation and unmute.

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Hello everyone. Can you hear me?

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Yes we can. And it was um. I didn't hear

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which items got pulled from the consent calendar. It was on

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mute. So if you might, if you wouldn't mind repeating that.

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We c 29 and C 82. Okay. And so C 29 is the one

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that I wanted to speak on. I just wanted to introduce

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myself. I'm the executive director of California

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Statewide Communities Development Authority, and I've

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met several of you at cSAC events. I just started last

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year, so I'm looking forward to meeting more of you. But, um,

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we did just want to be able to be part of the conversation.

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Uh, regarding GPAs. GPAs are a very unique structure, um,

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allowed by the Joint Powers Act that transfers a lot of risk

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and liability to a GPA from the county. Uh, one of the reasons

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why we exist is that we do very complicated financings that are

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difficult for the state to do, or for counties to do. And we

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also pool financings to allow participants. We have over 536

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participants that are part of our GPA, including the county,

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to be able to access the capital markets at a lower cost

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and be able to average the credit over several different

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entities, especially smaller entities. Uh, some of the

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complicated financings that we've done for the county. We

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did proposition one, a securitization, uh, very

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difficult transaction that gave the county $44 million in

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revenues. And, um, and other entities can't do that. It

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would be very difficult for the county to hire staff and be

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able to do that. So we've been providing those services

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throughout the county, all 19 and incorporated cities or

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members. Uh, and we just like to be part of that conversation

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and really understand your concerns and make sure that

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we're responsive and make sure that the county is receiving,

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uh, the financing that they need. We are sponsored by the

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state Association of Counties, and we have former county

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officials who are on our board that many of you know. Um, and

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so. There are no more comments.

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Thank you. Are there any other public comments for the consent

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items? No. Chair Bergus there or not?

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Thank you. Uh, then I will accept a. Motion from

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Supervisor Gioia. Second from doesn't say it. Supervisor

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Scales Preston. And that passes unanimously. Thank you. All

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right. We are going to move on to presentations. But first,

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um, we are going to be I'm going to bring in our

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adjournment and. Tom, did you want to start this off?

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Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, and thank the board for

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adjourning in memory of Mary Ann Mason. Um, Mary Ann was an

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outstanding attorney and wonderful mentor and friend to

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everyone who worked with her during her 35 year career with

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Contra Costa County. She began as a deputy county council, was

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appointed Assistant County council in 2010, appointed as

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Chief Assistant County Council in 2016, and the board

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appointed her as county council in 2021. She served in that

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role until her retirement in November of 2022. For many

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years, Mary Ann was the primary legal counsel to the Contra

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Costa County Courts and the grand jury chief counsel to the

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Contra Costa County Office of Education and Board of

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Education, and District Council to Del Diablo. She was the

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office's experts on expert on laws pertaining to retirement

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and employee benefits. Uh, conflict of interest laws. The

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Public Records Act, the Better Government Ordinance, the Brown

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Act, and the county's Election Campaign ordinance. And she

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probably would have enjoyed today's Brown Act issues this

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morning. Mary Ann really loved her job. One of the things she

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loved most about it was being involved in local politics and

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local government. She would always have the biggest smile

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when she would come into our offices to talk about local

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politics, like who had sent out the latest flyer and who was

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running against who. She really enjoyed hearing the latest

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political gossip. She thought local politics was fun, but she

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also loved it because she understood, like all of us,

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that local government is where you affect change and can

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really improve people's lives. After she retired, she remained

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active locally and served on the first Northern California

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Credit Board of directors until her passing. After her

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retirement, she was fortunate enough to travel and spend time

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with her family. After retirement. So thank you for

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adjourning and Marianne's memory, and I want to let the

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board know that a funeral mass will be held for Mary Ann on

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Friday, October 2nd at 10:30 a.m. at Saint Perpetua Church

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in Lafayette. I. I'm going to let my

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colleagues speak. Okay, John, you're the longest. You

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probably. Yeah, I've. I had a chance to

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work with Mary Ann since I joined the board. Um, a couple

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decades ago. And, um, she was, you know, everything you said,

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Tom. Um, but just on top of that, just a very gracious, um,

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kind person. And, um, never was rattled by things. Right? And,

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um, always respectful of anybody and everybody, whatever

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their viewpoints. And saw her role as, you know, giving the

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best legal advice to county departments, to the board. Um,

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and, uh, leaving the decision up to the Department of the

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board. But, you know, assessing the risks and, um, and doing

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the best she could. And I use the word integrity. She had

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amazing integrity. Um, and, um, would give advice in areas you

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talked about, and I, I know with the board members,

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whenever we had questions about the Brown Act, um, conflicts of

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interest, things like that, she was always, um, thoughtful,

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careful, and, um, an understanding person. Just a

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kind, great human being. I just missed.

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Well, I was truly saddened to hear of Mary Ann's passing. And

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of, of course, when she retired, when she was serving

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as our county council. And like, like John, I just had

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such a wonderful working relationship with Mary Ann. And

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when I first became a county supervisor, she really was the

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one that helped me understand some of the ramifications of

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having an officeholder account versus a campaign account. And

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as changes would come in election law and everything

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else, she really stayed on top of that. But she also offered

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such wise counsel and like and any of us who are parents, I

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don't think she had a favorite child, but she would come up to

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me after some controversial votes on the Board of

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Supervisors and whisper in my ear, I'm so glad you're my

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county supervisor. And each time she said that, it kind of

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warmed my heart and I really appreciated, as Tom said, the

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way she even though as the county council, she couldn't

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take sides on issues, she understood the issues we were

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confronting, she knew what was going on in the Orinda

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community, and I just always, um, have such a special place

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in my heart for her. And the way in which she led us as

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county council. Uh, yeah. It was interesting to

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get onboarded as a county supervisor, because most people

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when when they know we're going through that, they bring that

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whole, um, example of the of the fire hose. And I think, uh,

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Mary Ann brought that understanding, as Tom has

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talked about understanding local politics, but also very

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much understanding the law. Um, I think that's what makes

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certain people great is because they, um, they can bring those

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things together. They can be an expert in what they do, but

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then they can also help people understand, and they can help

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the people that are doing the job. Mary Ann was beautiful.

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But not only was she beautiful on the outside, she was

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amazingly beautiful on the inside. I think her husband is

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here. Come on up here. And I forgot your first name.

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Greg. Mason. Greg. Well, I'm going to let

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you speak in just a minute, but come on up here. Come stand by

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the podium so we can see you. I'm bossy today, Greg. Um, she

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loved her family, too. And that was a very, very obvious in

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working with her. I think the the fun thing was to see how

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excited she got about what she was doing. And she was so

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committed to the county, but there was always this big place

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in her. What what we dealt with was how much she loved her

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family, and I wanted to make sure that we recognized that

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today because, um, I think she would want us to, but I want to

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thank you for sharing her with us. She made Contra Costa a

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better place because she served us. And, um, so I'm really

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proud of the work that I've gotten to do with her. And

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she's made me a better county supervisor. So I just want to

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recognize you. I do. My colleagues that didn't get to

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work with her, maybe they knew her, but I'm going to let you

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guys say. And then you get to have the last word.

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Yeah, I came after, uh, Mary Ann, did. I can say is we're

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very privileged of her legacy and the work she did within

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county council and those who supported continue to benefit

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all of us in Contra Costa County, not only us in the

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decisions we make. Her legacy lives on. And those that are,

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uh, worked with her income. My condolences to you, Mr.

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Mason, is, um. I'm a newer supervisor, so I didn't have

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the opportunity to get to know, um, Mary. But it's always a

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blessing to learn about someone and hear the stories that my

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colleagues are sharing and staff, um, and it's learning

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about someone just not on a piece of paper, but the

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interactions and the relationships that she has

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created throughout this county. So thank you and your family

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for sharing her with us. And I can see that her extended

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family, with the legal counsel of Contra Costa is in the room

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as well. And I we we send our love to all of you because we

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know how much you loved her as well. But, Greg, share. Share

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what you want to say. Well, first of all, I'd like

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to. Can you speak into the

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microphone, please? Thank you. First of all, I'd

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like to thank everybody. She really loved working here. Um,

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sometimes it's kind of envious that maybe if she didn't have

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as much integrity because I'm sure she was privileged to a

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lot of really juicy gossip that never got back to me. If I if

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I'd ask, someone says, well, nope. If it makes a paper, I

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can talk about it. If it doesn't, I done, um, another

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thing. I'd like to thank Tom for everything he did and has

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done since then. Uh, what? You she may or may not have told

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you is, uh, she trusted me in my evaluation of people. And we

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had a, uh, uh, around the end of the year party, and Tom was

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over there and she said, hey, I'm thinking about Tom

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appointing him as my number two, which means my designated

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successor. So check them out. What do you think? And Tom came

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across very well, and I'm very happy that he's, uh, succeeding

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her. Uh, you know, not just in Texas. You know, Marianne's

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view is, hey, my job is to make sure everything runs smoothly.

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You know, look for potential problems, head them off so that

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everything goes smoothly. And Tom is my from what I've been

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seeing, has done a great job. So, again, I thank you very,

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very much. Uh, she really, really loved this job. She

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wouldn't have stayed in it for 35 years if if she didn't. So

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thank you very much. Thank you Greg. We really did

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love her to. So at the end of this meeting, we'll be

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adjourning in her memory and in her honor. Alrighty. We are

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going to move on to presentations. And I went down

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too far on my list. Presentation number one is

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recognizing August 2026 as International Overdose

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Awareness Month. Fatima mittal soul is in. Hopefully there she

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is. And April Rivero, executive director of National Coalition

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Against Prescription Drug Abuse. Um, I didn't give Fatima

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as title. She's the AOD program chief and AOD, I always all of

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the What's Oudh stand for alcohol and other drugs

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services. Yes. Thank you. Got it.

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Woo-Hoo! You!

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Good morning, Madam Chair. Board of supervisors, my name

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is Fatima Matawalle. I'm with the awards program chief with

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Behavioral health. Um, this morning. Um, we are here to

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recognize, to remind everybody the importance of, um,

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International Overdose Awareness Month. Uh, reminder

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that, um, our work continues the importance of treatment,

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the importance of supporting recovery, the importance of

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raising awareness about, um, you know, how to reduce stigma

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in the community so that people access the services that they

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need for behavioral health. With me today is April Rivera,

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who will be addressing all of you. Um, um, in this important

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matter. Thank you. Thank you. Fatima. So good

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morning, supervisors, staff and community members. My name is

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April Rivera. I live in San Ramon, and I'm the founder and

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executive director of the National Coalition Against

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Prescription Drug Abuse, formerly known as NCA PDA,

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because that's a really long name. Um, on behalf of NCA, PD

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and the meds and East County Meds Coalition's, I want to

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thank you for recognizing international Overdose

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Awareness Day. IOAD uh, what began 25 years ago in

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Melbourne, Australia, has grown to be a to be global in scope.

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So people gather around the world on and around August 31st

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to remember those lost too soon to overdose, to support those

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they left behind, and to break down the stigma that continues

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to have a profound effect on those living with substance use

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disorder in those impacted by overdose. Thankfully, there's

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actually some good news to report this year. We're now

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seeing a substantial, sustained drop in overdose deaths

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nationwide, and key contributors are cited by the

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CDC, the center for Disease Control, to include community

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education, particularly around fentanyl treatment for

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substance use and mental health disorders, and the wide

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distribution of naloxone that can easily be used by everyday

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community members to reverse an opioid related overdose. In APD

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and the meds coalitions are contributing to this good news

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story. In Contra Costa County, too. We work continuously in

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our various communities to strengthen overdose prevention

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by expanding access to naloxone, fentanyl test strips,

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and prevention education through partnerships with

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schools and other community organizations. We are

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increasing fentanyl awareness and equipping communities with

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lifesaving resources. We hope you will join us at the EOD

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event that the CC coalition is co-hosting with the county's

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middeck coalition on August 31st, from 11 to 3 to 130.

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Sorry, at the Loma Vista Adult Center in Concord, information

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about additional EOD events in Alameda County that Ncap is

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either hosting or tabling that is available on our website.

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Ncap dot org. In closing, I want to say that those we have

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lost to overdose mattered and we will recognize and remember

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them during our EOD events. Their families and friends left

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behind also matter. We need to make sure that stigma does not

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get in the way of us embracing and supporting them through

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their loss and grief, as we will do during our EOD events

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and beyond. So again, thank you very much for your proclamation.

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Recognizing August 31st is International Overdose

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Awareness Day. It's a very important day. That means a lot

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to those of us in NCA, PD and the meds coalitions and to

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every Contra Costa County community member who has been

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touched by a devastating loss to overdose. As my own family

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has. Thank you. And you know, I say this a lot.

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So it's kind of repeating myself, but I really, truly,

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truly believe this. When people go through hard things, you can

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fall down and lay on the floor, or you can get up and you can

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try to help make it better for other people. And I think

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that's what a hero is. So you're heroic and what you're

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doing by speaking up and trying to make a difference. So thank

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you to my colleagues. Have any comments?

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I just again, I always appreciate this because it hits

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home to me as as I've shared before, my daughter in law's

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beautiful sister lost her life due to an overdose when she was

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just 21 years old. And, um, it wasn't intentional. It just

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happened. And it's tragic. And I've also experienced a close

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family member who got addicted to pain pills that were

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prescribed for legitimate health reasons, but they

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altered the trajectory of her life, of her son's lives. And

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the more we can do to help prevent these tragedies that

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don't just impact one person, but impact all of us, is so

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critical. So thank you for this very, very important work.

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I just want to thank the I think, the amazing coalition we

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have in Contra Costa between the health department

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residents, um, community based organizations, the investment

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that we're all making and the work that everyone's doing

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together and continuing to raise the visibility. And I

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realize there are, um, some parts of the country where this

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is even more serious of an issue than it is here. Um, but

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it's it's it's so prevalent around the country. And others

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have said everyone knows someone who's been impacted by

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this tragedy. So thanks. Let's go take a picture with

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you. Our next presentation is recognizing August 2026 as

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Child Support Awareness Month. We have Matt Braga. Right,

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Matt, if I said your name wrong, you need to correct me

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because I have one of those names that sometimes gets us.

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Looks like I did okay. He is the Department of Child Support

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Services director. It's nice to see you.

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Nice to see. You.

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I say it right. Yes, you did perfect.

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And I have. I have a ex college.

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Uh, teammate whose last name is Burgess. So it's.

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Oh, it's so scary to talk to me.

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Then I apologize. I'm very good. Jerry Ferguson,

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supervisor. Okay. Yes. I want to thank you for acknowledging

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August's Child Support Awareness month. It's a month

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to highlight the work that child support staff do on our

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over 23,000 cases within Contra Costa County, which represents

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about 36,000 dependents. So we are a large, fairly large

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footprint in the community. As you know, our role is to assist

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with establishing parentage and child support and medical

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support obligations and to collect on those obligations.

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Our theme as a department this year has reached those who need

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our services and provide results, and that is a key for

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for our staff, is making sure that we're doing the best that

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we can to serve the families that we serve. To that end,

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I'll be coming back actually, in the coming months to

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announce a pilot program that will allow parents with child

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support obligations to come to an agreement on how the

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obligation will be met. Uh, so we're looking to kind of change

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the world of child support enforcement. Uh, we're moving

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away from traditional enforcement tools with child

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support and allowing families to to satisfy their obligations

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to each other in a way that is more, um, that fits more within

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their life situation. So we're calling that alternative our

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in-kind payment program. So allowing instead of just cash

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handed over from one parent to the other, but to allow in-kind

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services, whether it's transportation, whether it's

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it's helping with school clothes to satisfy a child

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support obligation with our partner San Joaquin in San

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Francisco counties, we're offering this alternative as a

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first of its kind in the nation support program. Uh, we had to

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attend, obtain a federal waiver, which just was signed

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last week by the state Department of Child Support

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Services. And they're sponsoring the entire project.

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So we want to expand our services to those parents who

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are working together and want options, rather than, again,

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focusing our on our traditional enforcement tools. So we're

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kind of using Child Support Awareness Month as our kind of

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launch point for that program. So again, there will be more to

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come. We are finalizing the technical pieces of it. Uh, but

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we should be reaching out to our families and offering this

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as an option within the next 2 to 3 months. So but with that,

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I thank you again for acknowledging child Support

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Awareness Month and the program that we, my executive team here

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hiding behind me and our camera, uh, that we certainly,

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uh, you know, honor and respect the families that we support,

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um, and our staff that work so hard to, um, to do the job that

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we do to support the families in our community.

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I'm going to ask your team to kind of come actually behind

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you so that people can see you on the screen. And I'm going to

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talk about the screen behind us to our audience. I know online

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you can see what's going on in the audience. The screen is not

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working, so you can see them from there and there. If you

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need to see what's going on. Um, I'm a divorced mom. I had,

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um, a really great experience with my ex-husband. He took

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care of his responsibilities. And I know that I was very

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lucky, um, because we worked together. Unfortunately, it's

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not always that easy. It gets complicated. And ultimately,

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when it is complicated and there are all those conflicts,

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it is terrible for the kids. And that's really what the

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whole purpose of this is, to make sure that the kids are

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getting taken care of, both food and housing and clothes,

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but also emotionally, educationally, you know, all of

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those things. And so I want to thank you for bringing

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awareness to to Contra Costa about this. I'm really excited

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to see that you're being innovative to help maybe make

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it a little less complicated for people and start working

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together to help our babies. And then I just want to thank

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all the folks that decided to pick a career where you work on

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this kind of this kind of stuff, to work with people

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that, you know, probably are either angry or scared or

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unsure of what to do, and you are there for them. So thank

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you for doing that to my colleagues. Have anything else

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to say? Nope. Then we're going to come down and take a picture

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with you. Um.

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The final presentation is one that I got to bring, and I'm

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kind of excited. Today we get to celebrate the legacy that

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harvest time has built over the last 50 years. If you're here

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with harvest time, come on down. There you are. One of the

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beautiful things of living in East Contra Costa is that we

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have these open spaces. We have farms. One of the really

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wonderful benefits is that on the way home from work, I can

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stop at a stand and pick up freshly picked stuff. It's

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tomatoes. It's strawberries, it's

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01:03:51,871 --> 01:03:56,275
peaches, it's corn. There's a whole bunch of really yummy,

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01:03:56,275 --> 01:03:59,679
delicious stuff. And people come from all over the Bay area

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because we are the Yupik capital of the world. Since

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1976, harvest time has helped connect visitors from around

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the world with local Yupik farms, roadside stands and

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01:04:12,892 --> 01:04:16,896
agricultural businesses across Brentwood and East Contra Costa

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01:04:16,896 --> 01:04:20,766
County. Their efforts have put East County on the map as the

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Yupik capital of the world. In 2025. Roughly 600,000 visitors

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01:04:27,573 --> 01:04:31,243
came to East County to enjoy the fruits and vegetables of

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their labor. In addition to Yup'ik harvest, time helps to

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01:04:35,447 --> 01:04:39,317
preserve our agricultural heritage, supports the farming

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01:04:39,317 --> 01:04:42,921
families who have shaped our community for generations and

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create traditions that keep East County farming community

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01:04:47,793 --> 01:04:52,198
strong. My team and I have been more than happy to support

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01:04:52,198 --> 01:04:56,100
their efforts. We went cherry picking in May and they were

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01:04:56,100 --> 01:05:00,720
delicious. I wish cherry season would go a little longer

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:06,672
though, right? Just sayin. Um, and we proudly wore our 50th

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01:05:07,479 --> 01:05:11,349
anniversary Harvest Time t shirts while we were out there.

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Uh, there's. If you drive out there, you'll see that there's

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01:05:13,686 --> 01:05:17,423
these big signs that Brentwood has helped put up that, um,

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01:05:17,423 --> 01:05:22,694
helps everybody recognize that, uh, the that they're the Yupik

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capital. So as chair, I'm proud to recognize harvest time for

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50 years of service, stewardship and community

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leadership. And today we have some of the rock stars of the

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Harvest Time family. We've got Brian Lucey. We, uh, who is the

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owner of Serendipity Winery. We have Patrick Johnston, who is a

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farmer and co-owner of Dooley Farms. We have Hayley Nunn,

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farmer's daughter, which is the one I stopped by a lot because

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01:05:52,858 --> 01:05:56,328
it's on my way home. Uh, Jessica Enos, the board

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01:05:56,328 --> 01:06:00,265
president, and it says Sean McCauley. I don't see Sean, but

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I will say all of these families have been in the area

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for a long time, and they have helped shape a beautiful place

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,411
to live. And often you go to places and there's the same

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01:06:12,411 --> 01:06:18,411
stores everywhere. You harvest time. Help make this a unique

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01:06:18,566 --> 01:06:21,769
and wonderful place to live. So I'm going to hand it over to

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01:06:21,769 --> 01:06:25,373
you. What do you want to say about harvest time?

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Uh, good morning, everyone, and thank you again for the

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01:06:28,175 --> 01:06:32,980
recognition. Um, just wanted to say or point out that harvest

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Time is a board of volunteers, volunteer farmers that help

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promote each other. Um, not only locally, but extended into

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01:06:42,723 --> 01:06:46,594
the larger community. And there was going to be much more of us

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here today. However, harvest is still in full swing. Um, corn,

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01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:56,465
tomatoes, grapes, almonds. Um, just started our winter squash

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01:06:57,205 --> 01:07:02,142
this morning. Um, so appreciate the recognition. And, uh, we'll

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01:07:02,142 --> 01:07:07,140
continue to promote agriculture as such a vital, unique

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01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:09,951
resource to Contra Costa County. And the more people we

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can get to come out to the East side, the better. So thank you

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01:07:13,354 --> 01:07:16,156
very much. Chair Burgess, I understand

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01:07:16,156 --> 01:07:20,940
there's also a video we have. Yeah, there.

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01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:24,294
Is. Yes. And the video will display

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01:07:24,899 --> 01:07:29,170
on the side screens, just the back screens. Thank you. Please

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01:07:29,170 --> 01:07:33,970
show the video. For 50 years, harvest time has

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01:07:36,110 --> 01:07:38,980
been the bridge between our soil and your family. We are

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01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:41,516
immensely proud to have helped Brentwood become the Yupik

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01:07:41,516 --> 01:07:44,318
capital of the world. But the heart of this land runs even

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01:07:44,318 --> 01:07:47,321
deeper. Many of our farming families have been stewards of

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01:07:47,321 --> 01:07:50,324
this earth for over a century, long before Brentwood was even

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01:07:50,324 --> 01:07:53,394
a city. They championed education, supported our youth

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01:07:53,394 --> 01:07:56,464
and shaped the community we're so proud to call home today.

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Whether you're a lifelong resident or a visitor from

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across the globe, your support keeps these legacies growing.

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01:08:02,736 --> 01:08:05,473
Thank you for choosing local and for being the reason our

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01:08:05,473 --> 01:08:10,273
heritage continues to thrive. Harvest time in Brentwood. 50

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01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:15,879
years of roots. A century of pride.

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My staff also brought the harvest Time magazine. We're

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01:08:27,828 --> 01:08:32,100
going to put them out at. See, Jamie is really great. She's

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01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:35,770
got em all out there. If you wa more, there's a website

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01:08:35,770 --> 01:08:41,175
that you can look up all the different places to visit, and

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01:08:41,175 --> 01:08:44,512
I encourage people to come on out. Does anybody else want to

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01:08:44,512 --> 01:08:47,981
say anything? No. Okay. Can we come down and take a picture

541
01:08:47,981 --> 01:08:54,581
with you? You'll let us? Okay. Come on down. And today's

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01:10:47,451 --> 01:10:52,322
agenda, D1 is the community forum for the transparent

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01:10:52,322 --> 01:10:58,322
review of unjust transfers and holds hold. Acts. Act, also

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01:10:59,262 --> 01:11:03,400
known as the Truth Act. Before we begin, I will have the clerk

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,536
of the board announce details regarding the additional

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01:11:06,536 --> 01:11:10,736
language access available specifically for this forum.

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01:11:12,675 --> 01:11:16,130
Those joining us remotely via zoom that wish to hear the

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01:11:16,130 --> 01:11:21,284
community forum in Spanish can do so by scanning the QR code

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01:11:21,284 --> 01:11:25,222
on the screen. Once you get to the wordly website. Choose

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01:11:25,222 --> 01:11:28,825
Spanish as your language. You can listen with headphones or

551
01:11:28,825 --> 01:11:32,496
your device's speaker, and you can also read captions in

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01:11:32,496 --> 01:11:38,101
Spanish. For those present here in 1025, Escobar in Martinez, a

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01:11:38,101 --> 01:11:40,904
conference room on the first floor of this building is

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01:11:40,904 --> 01:11:44,400
currently streaming this community forum for the public

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:49,446
in Spanish via worldly access to this community forum is the

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01:11:49,446 --> 01:11:52,516
same as with all board meetings. It is available on

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01:11:52,516 --> 01:11:56,716
Contra Costa Television channels. AT&T U-verse 99

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01:11:57,921 --> 01:12:01,521
Comcast channel 27 and astound channels 32 and 1027.

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01:12:04,995 --> 01:12:09,533
Television viewers can enable SAP to hear Spanish

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01:12:09,533 --> 01:12:13,937
interpretation. Additionally, for those that wish to address

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01:12:13,937 --> 01:12:18,411
the board in Spanish during public comment may do so and

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01:12:18,411 --> 01:12:23,211
worldly written translation to English will be displayed.

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01:12:29,154 --> 01:12:32,625
Thank you, thank you Jamie. Moving along. Item D1 is to

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01:12:32,625 --> 01:12:35,361
convene a community forum regarding the provisions of

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01:12:35,361 --> 01:12:39,980
access of certain individuals to the Federal Immigration and

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01:12:39,980 --> 01:12:43,298
Customs Enforcement Agency in 2025. This is for 2025.

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01:12:46,706 --> 01:12:50,906
Pursuant to Government Code Section 7283.1. Parentheses D

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01:12:53,712 --> 01:12:57,316
as noticed in this item, public comments will be heard. After

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all the presentations and will be limited to two minutes per

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01:13:00,987 --> 01:13:06,859
speaker as done in prior years. Today's community forum will

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01:13:06,859 --> 01:13:10,530
include three presentations. The first will be information

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01:13:10,530 --> 01:13:13,933
regarding Truth Act requirements and how the county

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01:13:13,933 --> 01:13:17,536
is meeting such obligations, which will be presented by a

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01:13:17,536 --> 01:13:21,207
need. And Mendoza from our County administrator's office,

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01:13:21,207 --> 01:13:24,343
her presentation will be followed by a ten minute

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01:13:24,343 --> 01:13:30,416
community presentation by Mio, Tena, Cora and Mino. If I said

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01:13:30,416 --> 01:13:33,860
that incorrectly, please correct me when you come up

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01:13:33,860 --> 01:13:37,289
from the Immigrant Legal Resource Center and Jesus Ruiz

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01:13:37,289 --> 01:13:41,560
from the Contra Costa immigrant Immigrant Rights Alliance. The

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01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,497
final presentation will be the statutory report from our

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01:13:45,497 --> 01:13:48,367
sheriff, Coroner David Livingston, regarding the

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01:13:48,367 --> 01:13:52,838
extent and nature of communications. His office had

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01:13:52,838 --> 01:13:58,238
with federal government agency Ice in 2025. I need welcome.

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01:14:01,714 --> 01:14:04,317
Hi. Good morning. Thank you. Chair Bergus and members of the

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01:14:04,317 --> 01:14:07,520
board. Um, so to kick off the forum.

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01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,855
I'm going to ask you to speak a little bit closer to the

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01:14:09,855 --> 01:14:12,391
microphone and a little bit louder because people are

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01:14:12,391 --> 01:14:14,927
listening online and in the rooms. And so we got to make

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01:14:14,927 --> 01:14:17,463
sure everybody hears you. Okay.

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01:14:17,463 --> 01:14:21,800
Checking to see if we can have the presentation up. Oh, it is.

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:27,200
Oh just kidding. Okay. The presentation is viewable on

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01:14:27,273 --> 01:14:32,879
on zoom. And, uh, CCTV will pull it up as well, but

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01:14:32,879 --> 01:14:36,282
everyone on zoom is viewing the presentation right now.

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01:14:36,282 --> 01:14:40,953
Okay. All right. Can you hear me now? Okay, great. Okay.

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01:14:40,953 --> 01:14:44,557
Thank you. So, to kick off the forum, I'll be presenting a

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01:14:44,557 --> 01:14:47,292
brief introduction. Introduction. Um, so if we're

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01:14:47,292 --> 01:14:50,496
on slide two, the next slide, please. Um, of the history of

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01:14:50,496 --> 01:14:53,299
key California immigration related laws, including some

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01:14:53,299 --> 01:14:56,903
definitions. I'll explain how the county determined the need

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01:14:56,903 --> 01:15:00,106
to hold the Truth Act forum this year, and review the

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01:15:00,106 --> 01:15:04,430
recommended board actions. Um, as done in prior years, the

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01:15:04,430 --> 01:15:06,779
county reached out to legal community group advocates.

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01:15:06,779 --> 01:15:10,515
Hold on just a second. You're trying to get to the second

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01:15:10,515 --> 01:15:13,652
slide. That's it. It is. Okay. Good.

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01:15:13,652 --> 01:15:17,528
Okay. No. That's okay. Thank you. No. That's fine. Thank

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01:15:17,528 --> 01:15:21,265
you. Um, so we have the presentation as Chair Bergus

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01:15:21,265 --> 01:15:24,268
mentioned by Milton Okoro from Immigrant Legal Resource Center

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01:15:24,268 --> 01:15:27,805
and Jesus Ruth from who's the director of the Contra Costa

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01:15:27,805 --> 01:15:31,809
Immigrant Rights Alliance. Um, and then at the end, we'll have

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01:15:31,809 --> 01:15:35,613
the sheriff's report. Um, which is the statutory requirement

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01:15:35,613 --> 01:15:41,613
for holding this forum. Let's see. Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

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01:15:44,889 --> 01:15:48,226
Okay. So key immigration related laws include the

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transparency responsibility using state tools, which is the

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01:15:51,429 --> 01:15:56,300
Trust Act of 2014. Um, which is government code 72, 82 and

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01:15:56,300 --> 01:16:01,700
7282.5. The Truth act of 2017 and the California Values Act.

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01:16:02,974 --> 01:16:08,579
Um, as amended by SB 54, the Trust Act describes the

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01:16:08,579 --> 01:16:11,449
circumstances under which a California law enforcement

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01:16:11,449 --> 01:16:15,919
agency can respond to transfer notification requests from

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immigration authorities. It no longer addresses detentions in

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01:16:19,923 --> 01:16:24,395
response to hold requests, because the Values Act

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01:16:24,395 --> 01:16:28,533
prohibits such detentions, and it specifies circumstances

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01:16:28,533 --> 01:16:32,136
under which local California law enforcement agencies can

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01:16:32,136 --> 01:16:37,608
detain an individual um or restricts them. Sorry, um, from

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01:16:37,608 --> 01:16:41,780
an enforcement agency detaining an individual pastor. Scheduled

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01:16:41,780 --> 01:16:44,682
release. The Truth Acts protects the rights of

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01:16:44,682 --> 01:16:47,485
individuals in custody by ensuring local law enforcement

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01:16:47,485 --> 01:16:51,355
agencies inform them of their procedural and legal rights. If

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01:16:51,355 --> 01:16:55,559
the agency is contacted by Ice, it specifies public records

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01:16:55,559 --> 01:16:58,763
access available for such individuals and requires

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01:16:58,763 --> 01:17:02,900
holding the form, as we're doing today. The California

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01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:05,970
Values Act limits the circumstances under which local

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01:17:05,970 --> 01:17:10,240
enforcement agencies may use resources. It was intended to

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,843
build trust between immigrant communities and state and local

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01:17:12,843 --> 01:17:17,643
agencies, and it has additional reporting requirements for

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immigration enforcement activities. So we just included

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the language of the Truth Act for the public to make sure

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that they had information regarding why we're holding

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01:17:33,131 --> 01:17:38,603
today's forum. What's important about the Truth Act is that it

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01:17:38,603 --> 01:17:42,206
has specific definitions to ensure that when a local law

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enforcement agency is determining the need to hold a

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01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:48,746
forum, there's a clear understanding of what the

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01:17:48,746 --> 01:17:51,615
expectations are of the community forum. What

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constitutes a local law enforcement agency, and what

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01:17:54,952 --> 01:17:59,152
the definition is of notification requests. Ice

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01:18:00,224 --> 01:18:04,495
access is also one of the main determinants for ensuring the

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01:18:04,495 --> 01:18:08,966
need to hold a truth act. So ice access is defined there. So

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it could be an agency responding to an ice cold

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01:18:12,350 --> 01:18:15,848
notification or transfer request. Providing Ice in

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01:18:15,848 --> 01:18:19,852
advance information about an individual who will be released

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01:18:19,852 --> 01:18:24,123
at a certain date and time. And then provide ice on publicly

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01:18:24,123 --> 01:18:27,259
available information regarding release dates, home address,

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01:18:27,259 --> 01:18:31,263
work addresses, um, allowing Ice to interview an individual

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01:18:31,263 --> 01:18:34,466
and providing Ice information about dates of probation and

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parole check ins. So these are all the definitions that could

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fall under our understanding as we're holding the Truth Act

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today because of number one, which is notifications. So

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ultimately, the purpose of today's forum, it's a

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transparency initiative in statute for local law

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01:19:03,896 --> 01:19:07,900
enforcement agencies to report on the extent and nature of

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communications with federal Immigration and Customs

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01:19:10,169 --> 01:19:14,573
Enforcement agency. Um, there are the specific requirements.

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The forum must be held during the following calendar year. It

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must be open to the public and an accessible location. It

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requires 30 day notice, and we've included those notices as

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attachment A to the report to the board. Um, so starting

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October 21st of 25, when the board set its 2026 calendar

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01:19:33,593 --> 01:19:37,630
meeting calendar, the Truth Act was identified for today's

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date. Additionally, on 720, uh, we published, um, information

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about the Truth Act on July 20th in the Contra Costa Times,

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and the county has issued several media releases, um,

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that have been circulating since July 23rd of this year.

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Um, we have held the Truth Act since it was required by law.

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And, um, what has changed? Um, excuse me. Mostly due to the

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Values Act and the Trust Act, as amended by the Values Act.

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We do not hold any contract with Ice nor House Ice agency

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detainees within our adult or juvenile detention facility

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systems. Okay.

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So the county administrator's office to determine whether

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there was a need for a forum, we sent department head

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certifications on June 25th, which is included as attachment

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C. Each department head was required to answer two

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question, two questions, one whether their department meets

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the definition of the truth acts. Local law enforcement

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agency, and if so, did their department provide Ice access

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01:20:49,868 --> 01:20:53,138
as defined in the previous slide I shared with you? Of the

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25 departments. Seven responded yes to the first question that

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they do meet the definition of a local law enforcement agency,

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and one responded yes to providing Ice access. To ensure

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public access. We just detailed because it's also a requirement

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of the act, what actions we've taken to ensure that this

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meeting, similar to all other board meetings, is accessible

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to the public. Um, and how we share the information ahead of

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01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:25,180
time and then a little different, but, uh, typical of

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01:21:25,180 --> 01:21:27,783
the truth act form, we're also having a live streaming in

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01:21:27,783 --> 01:21:31,254
Spanish in the conference room. So anyone who wishes to listen

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01:21:31,254 --> 01:21:34,389
to the meeting in Spanish, um, can be there attending in

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01:21:34,389 --> 01:21:39,189
Spanish. Okay, so I keep forgetting. So today's

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recommended board actions is to receive this presentation,

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01:21:48,404 --> 01:21:51,607
receive a presentation from the Immigration Legal Resource

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01:21:51,607 --> 01:21:55,411
Center. Uh, received the report from the sheriff coroner, which

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01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:58,140
is a statutory requirement for holding the forum and

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01:21:58,140 --> 01:22:01,160
receiving. Consider public comment. There are no formal

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actions for the board to take as the, um as a governing board

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01:22:05,755 --> 01:22:10,920
over the jurisdiction of the sheriff. Um, operations. You're

705
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,830
required to hold the forum, but there's no official action for

706
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:19,969
you to take today. But hold the forum and have public comment.

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01:22:19,969 --> 01:22:22,238
If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer that. Other

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01:22:22,238 --> 01:22:25,107
than that, that's the end of my presentation, and we can hand

709
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:28,111
it over to the community group. Thank you. I'm just going to

710
01:22:28,111 --> 01:22:31,514
ask my colleagues, do you have any questions of a need? No.

711
01:22:31,514 --> 01:22:35,451
All right. Then we will move on to the next presentation. And

712
01:22:35,451 --> 01:22:40,790
that is with the, um. Oh, I just had it all written down.

713
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:46,190
Sorry about that. The Immigrant Legal Resource Center, and

714
01:22:50,466 --> 01:22:54,870
there are two podiums. If you both want to be at a podium and

715
01:22:54,870 --> 01:23:00,870
they adjust for height, if you're interested in that. Oh,

716
01:23:01,900 --> 01:23:04,900
and there's the clicker. Welcome.

717
01:23:07,150 --> 01:23:09,752
Hi. Uh, where am I looking for the

718
01:23:09,752 --> 01:23:16,826
screen? I don't need to click it. I can just go off my iPad.

719
01:23:16,826 --> 01:23:23,426
Okay. Yeah. And we apologize. Okay. Um, this big screen, uh,

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01:23:24,834 --> 01:23:29,438
dysfunction or malfunction this morning. And so we're winging

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01:23:29,438 --> 01:23:33,175
it. But just so that people know in the audience if it's

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01:23:33,175 --> 01:23:36,312
uncomfortable to be looking at it from the side, there is an

723
01:23:36,312 --> 01:23:39,982
overflow room. In the other, and it's a little easier to

724
01:23:39,982 --> 01:23:45,388
watch if if you need that. And, uh, we'll do whatever we can to

725
01:23:45,388 --> 01:23:49,726
support you so that, you know, um, what's what's happening

726
01:23:49,726 --> 01:23:51,527
with your. And Diane, what would have been

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01:23:51,527 --> 01:23:54,396
on this screen is still being shown on the two sided screens.

728
01:23:54,396 --> 01:23:58,935
Yeah. And the slides are up on, uh, zoom right now. The first

729
01:23:58,935 --> 01:24:01,935
slide is up. Perfect. Okay.

730
01:24:02,137 --> 01:24:05,541
And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to put my thing

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01:24:05,541 --> 01:24:10,145
so you can kind of. see what. Awesome, awesome. Thank you so

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01:24:10,145 --> 01:24:13,750
much for that. Yep. That's perfect. Thank you so much. I

733
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:15,494
just got my eyes checked so I could see that.

734
01:24:15,494 --> 01:24:18,298
Perfect. That's what we have. That's what we look at up here.

735
01:24:18,298 --> 01:24:19,432
These little these little screens.

736
01:24:19,432 --> 01:24:23,436
Yeah. Can you bring it to. them? Right. Perfect.

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01:24:23,436 --> 01:24:27,640
And of course, we have the printout that was sent. And if

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01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,443
it's a newer version, let us know.

739
01:24:30,443 --> 01:24:34,647
Yeah. Okay. I can go ahead and get

740
01:24:34,647 --> 01:24:38,510
started. Hi, everyone. My name is Jesus Ruiz, and I am the

741
01:24:38,510 --> 01:24:41,921
director for Sierra Contra Costa. Immigrant rights. Um,

742
01:24:41,921 --> 01:24:47,994
alliance. And I'm going to speak on who are we as Contra

743
01:24:47,994 --> 01:24:51,664
Costa. So Contra Costa is an immigrant rights alliance is a

744
01:24:51,664 --> 01:24:55,468
base. Um, it's a coalition of community, faith, advocacy and

745
01:24:55,468 --> 01:24:58,204
immigrant led organizations that are formed in the spring

746
01:24:58,204 --> 01:25:02,742
of 2017 to help make Contra Costa County, um, a county that

747
01:25:02,742 --> 01:25:05,478
welcomes and honors and protects the rights of our

748
01:25:05,478 --> 01:25:10,830
immigrant members and our community at Sierra, our

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01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:14,354
mission is to ensure the immigrant community feels safe

750
01:25:14,354 --> 01:25:18,625
and has a healthy and and live a healthy and free lives. We

751
01:25:18,625 --> 01:25:21,427
pursue that mission by advocating for policies,

752
01:25:21,427 --> 01:25:25,498
campaigns, and resources that safeguard the rights of all

753
01:25:25,498 --> 01:25:29,569
immigrant community members. Our goals is to improve access

754
01:25:29,569 --> 01:25:33,439
to resources, services, build power for immigrant

755
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,390
communities, interrupt the criminal immigration system,

756
01:25:37,644 --> 01:25:41,514
and promote dignity, freedom, safety, and health of our

757
01:25:41,514 --> 01:25:45,584
immigrant communities. What is our values to build immigrant

758
01:25:45,584 --> 01:25:50,389
rights, support and protect each other on honor and fight

759
01:25:50,389 --> 01:25:54,928
for dignity of all center and be led by the directly impacted

760
01:25:54,928 --> 01:26:00,133
community. Fight against state tools that seek to deport,

761
01:26:00,133 --> 01:26:04,804
surveil and brutalize our communities and to recognize

762
01:26:04,804 --> 01:26:11,770
the history of anti-Blackness. Some of our concerns of eyes of

763
01:26:11,770 --> 01:26:14,800
local law enforcement. Collaboration with Ice are the

764
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,817
unnecessarily it unnecessarily expands local resources on

765
01:26:17,817 --> 01:26:21,954
immigration enforcement, which is not a responsibility of the

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01:26:21,954 --> 01:26:26,225
Sheriff's department. It also fosters this trust between

767
01:26:26,225 --> 01:26:30,629
immigrant communities and local law enforcement, makes it, um,

768
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:35,100
it makes immigrant communities view local law enforcement and

769
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:39,305
Ice as the same, which can lead to them being hesitant to

770
01:26:39,305 --> 01:26:44,243
collaborate on any crimes they witness. It opens local law

771
01:26:44,243 --> 01:26:47,513
enforcement up to liability, which means tax dollars are

772
01:26:47,513 --> 01:26:51,517
used to pay our settlements, and it can result in a

773
01:26:51,517 --> 01:26:54,120
permanent separation of community members from their

774
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,657
families and integration or trauma. Black, Brown and AAPI

775
01:26:58,657 --> 01:27:02,728
folks are the most harmed by mass incarceration in

776
01:27:02,728 --> 01:27:06,328
criminalization, suffers the most. Thank you.

777
01:27:15,886 --> 01:27:18,756
Good morning everyone. Thank you for.

778
01:27:18,756 --> 01:27:23,560
Allowing me to present today. My name is Mia. Sorry, but I go

779
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,310
by Mele Tanaka and I'm a senior staff attorney with the

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01:27:27,310 --> 01:27:30,968
Immigrant Legal Resource Center of over ten years of public

781
01:27:30,968 --> 01:27:34,380
service experience and extensive experience in

782
01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:38,576
immigration law before diving into some of the material, I do

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01:27:38,576 --> 01:27:42,512
want the county and the board to take quick notice that my

784
01:27:42,512 --> 01:27:46,583
prepared slides do not reflect entirely our concerns. Although

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01:27:46,583 --> 01:27:50,187
historically, the True Fact forum has focused on

786
01:27:50,187 --> 01:27:53,190
notification and transfers, I do want to remind the county

787
01:27:53,190 --> 01:27:59,630
that the spirit of the law is about transparency. Our

788
01:27:59,630 --> 01:28:02,466
position as we read the true fact is that it provides also

789
01:28:02,466 --> 01:28:06,700
an opportunity to discuss situations where non-public

790
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:09,874
information about a person is provided through computer

791
01:28:09,874 --> 01:28:13,477
databases, and that is the concern we have with one of the

792
01:28:13,477 --> 01:28:16,747
contracts the sheriff has with flock Safety, which is a

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01:28:16,747 --> 01:28:20,550
license plate reader company. You can simply just at this

794
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:24,210
point, Google Flock Safety, which is a license plate

795
01:28:24,210 --> 01:28:28,225
company, and you will see reports within California and

796
01:28:28,225 --> 01:28:31,228
outside of California where license plate reader

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01:28:31,228 --> 01:28:34,365
information was discovered to have access to have been

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01:28:34,365 --> 01:28:39,837
accessed by other agencies. So we strongly urge the county and

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01:28:39,837 --> 01:28:43,174
the sheriff to take notice and reconsider the flock safety

800
01:28:43,174 --> 01:28:47,911
contract. And also an ordinance that has a contractor provision

801
01:28:47,911 --> 01:28:52,716
to close these loopholes, as this is a clear example of it.

802
01:28:52,716 --> 01:28:56,387
With that said, I want to address the community concerns

803
01:28:56,387 --> 01:28:58,722
about the serious ramifications. Any

804
01:28:58,722 --> 01:29:02,593
collaboration with Ice has on the Contra Costa community.

805
01:29:02,593 --> 01:29:06,663
Collaboration with Ice is a voluntary choice. I keep saying

806
01:29:06,663 --> 01:29:11,201
that and as such, it unnecessarily expends local

807
01:29:11,201 --> 01:29:15,673
resources on immigration enforcement when it comes to

808
01:29:15,673 --> 01:29:21,946
it, the county just simply does not need to cooperate. And more

809
01:29:21,946 --> 01:29:25,160
importantly, when local law enforcement collaborates with

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01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,487
Ice immigrants and even those with legal status, fear that an

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01:29:29,487 --> 01:29:31,689
interaction with law enforcement could lead to

812
01:29:31,689 --> 01:29:36,489
detention and deportation. This fear discourages people from

813
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,497
reporting crime, seeking help, or serving as witnesses, which

814
01:29:40,497 --> 01:29:45,369
makes the entire community less safe. Sadly, collaboration can

815
01:29:45,369 --> 01:29:48,839
lead to the permanent separation of community members

816
01:29:48,839 --> 01:29:52,176
from their families, causing deep and lasting trauma,

817
01:29:52,176 --> 01:29:54,778
especially in the black and brown community. As my

818
01:29:54,778 --> 01:29:59,182
colleague has just pointed out, immigration enforcement is not

819
01:29:59,182 --> 01:30:04,188
race neutral. This isn't just a public issue, it is a human

820
01:30:04,188 --> 01:30:09,593
one. In California, we luckily have or not. Luckily, because

821
01:30:09,593 --> 01:30:15,732
that's the flaw. We have SB 54. Um, that limits our state and

822
01:30:15,732 --> 01:30:18,548
local resources from being used to carry out immigration,

823
01:30:18,548 --> 01:30:23,348
detentions. And deportations. Again, SB 54 is an important

824
01:30:24,621 --> 01:30:28,625
flaw, but is not the sealing localities continue to have the

825
01:30:28,625 --> 01:30:32,629
constitutional right to opt out of federal immigration

826
01:30:32,629 --> 01:30:35,565
enforcement and to refuse to participate in this

827
01:30:35,565 --> 01:30:38,902
administration's mass deportation agenda. Now, I want

828
01:30:38,902 --> 01:30:42,773
to turn to changes in federal immigration enforcement that

829
01:30:42,773 --> 01:30:48,245
makes it such a dire need right now for localities to hold the

830
01:30:48,245 --> 01:30:52,582
line and refuse to participate in this inhumane immigration

831
01:30:52,582 --> 01:30:56,252
enforcement regime. Ice really does not need the help from

832
01:30:56,252 --> 01:30:59,456
Contra Costa because it has delegated their immigration

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01:30:59,456 --> 01:31:02,992
enforcement powers virtually to everyone in the federal

834
01:31:02,992 --> 01:31:06,630
government, from the US marshals to the DEA.

835
01:31:06,630 --> 01:31:10,263
Additionally, DHS overall has received $218.8 billion between

836
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:18,141
the One Big Beautiful Act bill known as H.R. one and the

837
01:31:18,141 --> 01:31:23,541
Secure America Act. Out of that $218.8 billion Ice received

838
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:29,800
about $113.2 billion. Also, the administration has shown a

839
01:31:29,419 --> 01:31:33,220
total disregard for the rule of law by creating policies that

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01:31:33,220 --> 01:31:36,293
infringe on constitutional due process rights. The immigration

841
01:31:36,293 --> 01:31:39,629
policies of this administration has led to family separation.

842
01:31:39,629 --> 01:31:45,340
And I will say, as an immigrant youth expert, I've seen I've

843
01:31:45,340 --> 01:31:49,105
never seen a government take an attack on immigrant children

844
01:31:49,105 --> 01:31:52,575
and youth. Right now, they don't even have representation.

845
01:31:52,575 --> 01:31:55,779
We have two year olds standing in court because the federal

846
01:31:55,779 --> 01:32:01,450
government cut the funding for that program. Make no mistake

847
01:32:01,450 --> 01:32:04,320
that the cruelty of this administration has no bounds.

848
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,789
Aggressive immigration enforcement has led to the

849
01:32:06,789 --> 01:32:11,127
killings of non-citizens and citizens. Let that sink in,

850
01:32:11,127 --> 01:32:15,265
because does this county want to voluntarily really align

851
01:32:15,265 --> 01:32:19,402
with a regime that is killing people? We have to do better in

852
01:32:19,402 --> 01:32:23,600
Contra Costa, has to do better. Turning to the sheriff's

853
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,942
presentation and data, I want to acknowledge and thank the

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01:32:25,942 --> 01:32:28,344
sheriff for adding more information than last year

855
01:32:28,344 --> 01:32:31,147
regarding the notifications. However, we have

856
01:32:31,147 --> 01:32:35,840
recommendations first. As always, it would be great to

857
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,222
have more time to analyze all the data. As you can see, there

858
01:32:39,222 --> 01:32:43,260
are 92 notifications and the community takes these

859
01:32:43,260 --> 01:32:47,830
notifications very seriously and needs time to analyze fully

860
01:32:47,830 --> 01:32:52,569
the notifications under SB 54. After all, there are lives at

861
01:32:52,569 --> 01:32:57,707
stake here. We also recommend removing the column of past

862
01:32:57,707 --> 01:33:03,246
removals, as it is not necessary at all to the SB for

863
01:33:03,246 --> 01:33:08,718
SB 54 analysis, we question and lament greatly why this was

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01:33:08,718 --> 01:33:11,587
added, and we hope the Sheriff will remove this from his data

865
01:33:11,587 --> 01:33:16,139
and hope this was not added for an ulterior motive. We also

866
01:33:16,139 --> 01:33:19,475
recommend that the data reflect the state of the notification

867
01:33:19,475 --> 01:33:22,110
request and when the notification was made by the

868
01:33:22,110 --> 01:33:24,947
sheriff, this would be helpful so we don't have to make a

869
01:33:24,947 --> 01:33:28,547
public records request. Moreover, we recommend

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01:33:29,619 --> 01:33:34,900
providing information about any assistance that is afforded to

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01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:38,495
Ice agents in the lobby of the jail. If there is any sign in

872
01:33:38,495 --> 01:33:42,365
sheet use or video footage of them waiting in the lobby, it

873
01:33:42,365 --> 01:33:45,835
would be useful information to determine if any assistance has

874
01:33:45,835 --> 01:33:49,906
been afforded to Ice. Again, what we're striving here is

875
01:33:49,906 --> 01:33:55,306
complete transparency. These are these acts are very simple.

876
01:33:55,512 --> 01:34:00,116
We urge the sheriff to make these changes in terms of

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01:34:00,116 --> 01:34:04,120
notifications, I do want to highlight serious concerns over

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01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,920
some of these notifications. While we fundamentally believe,

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01:34:08,992 --> 01:34:12,862
regardless of their criminal history, everyone should not

880
01:34:12,862 --> 01:34:20,620
receive double punishment. Um, I do want to touch on some and

881
01:34:20,136 --> 01:34:24,140
take the county to take notice that the sheriff, in his own

882
01:34:24,140 --> 01:34:27,543
presentation, states that notifications are only honored

883
01:34:27,543 --> 01:34:31,280
for people for certain charges specifically convicted of a

884
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,552
serious or violent felony. That's simply not true. As it

885
01:34:35,552 --> 01:34:38,822
reflected by the sheriff's data. For example, two people

886
01:34:38,822 --> 01:34:43,360
were convicted of illegal reentry, which under California

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01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:48,160
Government Code 7284.6 B1 law enforcement may detain an

888
01:34:48,964 --> 01:34:53,836
individual for unlawful reentry only if detected during an

889
01:34:53,836 --> 01:34:58,107
unrelated enforcement activity, and the person was previously

890
01:34:58,107 --> 01:35:03,313
removed to a conviction for an aggravated felony. Under

891
01:35:03,313 --> 01:35:07,317
immigration law, there's no indication that there was an

892
01:35:07,317 --> 01:35:10,787
aggravated felony here for both of them. Under immigration law

893
01:35:10,787 --> 01:35:14,791
and in their history. Also, immigration law is one of the

894
01:35:14,791 --> 01:35:19,195
most complex areas of law. I should know. And that analysis

895
01:35:19,195 --> 01:35:22,640
cannot be easily made by someone without an immigration

896
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,935
law background. Another example is a person who was convicted

897
01:35:25,935 --> 01:35:29,405
of a misdemeanor for false imprisonment, which is not a

898
01:35:29,405 --> 01:35:33,143
wobbler, and had no other prior history that would count as an

899
01:35:33,143 --> 01:35:36,946
exception. Similarly, another person was convicted of a

900
01:35:36,946 --> 01:35:40,616
misdemeanor without any other prior conviction for simply

901
01:35:40,616 --> 01:35:45,421
concealing a dagger. Another for tapping a utility line.

902
01:35:45,421 --> 01:35:49,621
There's also convictions where proposition 47 reduced or

903
01:35:50,426 --> 01:35:53,829
reclassified the felony to a misdemeanor. There were no

904
01:35:53,829 --> 01:35:58,167
other exceptions in the person's history, and, um,

905
01:35:58,167 --> 01:36:02,439
lastly, I do want to draw attention to a serious practice

906
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,176
that we learned through sheriff correspondence in terms of

907
01:36:06,176 --> 01:36:12,480
notifying Ice of anticipated release dates. If a person is

908
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:16,865
in custody, they must be arraigned within 72 hours, or

909
01:36:16,865 --> 01:36:20,602
they must be released. In other words, if the D.A. doesn't file

910
01:36:20,602 --> 01:36:24,206
charges, then the person is is in custody has to be released

911
01:36:24,206 --> 01:36:28,544
within that time period. The sheriff is notifying Ice about

912
01:36:28,544 --> 01:36:33,682
these anticipated release dates, but that is not the same

913
01:36:33,682 --> 01:36:37,352
as release dates of when someone is sentenced, which is

914
01:36:37,352 --> 01:36:42,152
covered by SB 54. These anticipated release dates are

915
01:36:42,224 --> 01:36:47,240
not publicly available. Certain charges qualify as exceptions,

916
01:36:47,429 --> 01:36:51,901
but only after they have passed that preliminary stage. That is

917
01:36:51,901 --> 01:36:54,904
not the case here. I strongly recommend the sheriff stop

918
01:36:54,904 --> 01:36:58,640
immediately. This policy, as that is a clear violation of SB

919
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,511
54. I will also call for an audit of training materials the

920
01:37:02,511 --> 01:37:06,515
Sheriff's office uses to make SB four determinations. With

921
01:37:06,515 --> 01:37:09,452
that said, when there's complexity, there's room for

922
01:37:09,452 --> 01:37:13,722
error. Make no mistake about it, and continue to collaborate

923
01:37:13,722 --> 01:37:17,393
with Ice. Contra Costa is setting itself up for legal

924
01:37:17,393 --> 01:37:21,329
liability as one single unlawful action can lead to the

925
01:37:21,329 --> 01:37:24,800
county paying out huge settlement agreements, like

926
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:29,404
other counties have done in the past, contra Costa should join

927
01:37:29,404 --> 01:37:32,674
the many counties who have already taken a stand to ensure

928
01:37:32,674 --> 01:37:36,745
their limited resources are not used to bolster ISIS cruel

929
01:37:36,745 --> 01:37:40,616
tactics and invest in resources that benefit the community. The

930
01:37:40,616 --> 01:37:43,819
recommendations to the board are very simple as well. To

931
01:37:43,819 --> 01:37:48,156
consider an ordinance adopted already by many to end all Ice

932
01:37:48,156 --> 01:37:52,270
collaboration. Unless there's a judicial warrant or court order

933
01:37:52,270 --> 01:37:56,832
and keep the dialogue open with community. As always, the

934
01:37:56,832 --> 01:38:00,702
Immigrant Legal Resource Center is here disposable. I'm

935
01:38:00,702 --> 01:38:05,174
disposable to this board and to the sheriff as well. Um, and

936
01:38:05,174 --> 01:38:08,577
thank you very much for your time.

937
01:38:08,577 --> 01:38:15,777
Thank you. Before we go, before we go to the next presentatio

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01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:24,126
do my colleagues have any questions or comments at this

939
01:38:24,126 --> 01:38:28,926
point? No. We'll wait. Okay. Welcome. Sheriff Livingston.

940
01:38:29,398 --> 01:38:32,468
Chair. Bergus. Vice chair. Carlson. Members of the board.

941
01:38:32,468 --> 01:38:36,400
Thank you for having us today for the Truth Act Forum. We

942
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:40,342
have a relatively short presentation, as you know, and

943
01:38:40,342 --> 01:38:43,412
hopefully the public knows we actually provide this data to

944
01:38:43,412 --> 01:38:47,683
you quarterly as part of the sheriff's oversight report. So

945
01:38:47,683 --> 01:38:51,420
this is not new data. This is just a summary of what occurred

946
01:38:51,420 --> 01:38:58,620
in 2025. And so now we'll begin the presentation here. Can I be

947
01:39:01,296 --> 01:39:04,833
heard. Yeah. So we'll review our general policy on

948
01:39:04,833 --> 01:39:08,570
immigration. We'll talk about our field operations Bureau

949
01:39:08,570 --> 01:39:14,570
relative to Ice access. And the same for custody operations.

950
01:39:15,977 --> 01:39:18,862
First of all, it's important to note for the public that our

951
01:39:18,862 --> 01:39:22,866
policy is very clear. No person shall be contacted, detained or

952
01:39:22,866 --> 01:39:27,400
arrested solely on the basis of his or her immigration status.

953
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:34,204
Uh, the immigration status of a person and the lack of. Losing

954
01:39:36,346 --> 01:39:39,684
the microphone here. There's not a fan on hold on

955
01:39:39,684 --> 01:39:41,170
you, is there? Yeah.

956
01:39:41,170 --> 01:39:43,354
There is. You know what? It's the fan.

957
01:39:43,354 --> 01:39:45,689
The fans making. The fan is making a rumbling

958
01:39:45,689 --> 01:39:49,894
noise. I'm sort of the IT ghost whisperer at the moment.

959
01:39:49,894 --> 01:39:51,762
Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Now we can hear

960
01:39:51,762 --> 01:39:54,698
you. Great. You know, Karen Minkoff used to do that, and

961
01:39:54,698 --> 01:39:57,902
we'd all say, what's going on with the AV system? And it was

962
01:39:57,902 --> 01:40:01,238
the fan that created a wind tunnel. So thank you.

963
01:40:01,238 --> 01:40:06,380
Awesome. Thank you. So moving on. Additionally, for

964
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:10,914
immigration detainers, uh, those will not be honored by

965
01:40:10,914 --> 01:40:14,718
the Sheriff's Office request for notifications will be

966
01:40:14,718 --> 01:40:19,189
honored pursuant to state law. And notifications of

967
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:23,260
anticipated release dates are honored only for inmates held

968
01:40:23,260 --> 01:40:28,466
for certain charges. As you'll see in the presentation.

969
01:40:28,466 --> 01:40:32,736
Updates effective as of July 1st, there were several that

970
01:40:32,736 --> 01:40:36,473
the Sheriff's office made. Uh, we engaged with advocacy

971
01:40:36,473 --> 01:40:40,544
organizations, and we stopped releasing dates of those

972
01:40:40,544 --> 01:40:46,544
individuals on our website. Um, victims can still search names

973
01:40:47,170 --> 01:40:49,620
of individuals in custody, and they can still access the

974
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:53,890
divine program. Of course, for notification if someone who has

975
01:40:53,890 --> 01:40:57,695
assaulted them is being released. Um, Ice agents who

976
01:40:57,695 --> 01:41:01,310
request to pick up a released inmate may only be in the

977
01:41:01,310 --> 01:41:05,836
public lobby. Uh, they don't receive any assistance. I heard

978
01:41:05,836 --> 01:41:09,573
a question during the other presentation. We don't assist

979
01:41:09,573 --> 01:41:13,711
ice. We don't track ice. We don't have sign in sheets.

980
01:41:13,711 --> 01:41:18,490
They're free to only go where the public can go. And also

981
01:41:18,490 --> 01:41:21,519
custody services. Command staff has collaborated in the past,

982
01:41:21,519 --> 01:41:24,922
specifically with the Asian Law Caucus, to go over our

983
01:41:24,922 --> 01:41:29,590
policies, to engage with them, to hear concerns. And we have

984
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:32,263
made some changes. Not all the changes that they requested,

985
01:41:32,263 --> 01:41:38,263
but we listened. So for field operations, our deputies cover,

986
01:41:38,602 --> 01:41:43,874
of course, the entire county, as you well know, uh, 750mi , a

987
01:41:43,874 --> 01:41:49,274
population of 1.2 million or so. We cover 521mi , in

988
01:41:49,946 --> 01:41:54,746
unincorporated area. We serve a population of 175,000, which

989
01:41:54,819 --> 01:41:58,890
would make us actually the largest street, uh, field

990
01:41:58,890 --> 01:42:02,826
operations, police department in the county. We responded

991
01:42:02,826 --> 01:42:07,297
over 169,000 calls for service. And we do not do immigration

992
01:42:07,297 --> 01:42:12,697
enforcement, custody services. Uh, it's important to note also

993
01:42:13,237 --> 01:42:16,789
only books adults. We don't handle any juvenile in our

994
01:42:16,789 --> 01:42:21,595
facilities. And we booked about just under 16,000 inmates in

995
01:42:21,595 --> 01:42:27,934
Martinez last year. Here's the information on the Ice forum as

996
01:42:27,934 --> 01:42:32,205
to the demographics for those that were detained. Uh, as you

997
01:42:32,205 --> 01:42:37,477
can see, the numbers and as far as gender, males, 120 females

998
01:42:37,477 --> 01:42:43,483
were four. So here's the really the the heart of the

999
01:42:43,483 --> 01:42:47,554
presentation, which is the total request received from Ice

1000
01:42:47,554 --> 01:42:52,354
were 724. Uh, we made 124 notifications of an inmate's

1001
01:42:54,427 --> 01:42:58,898
release, uh, notifications on the same person, however,

1002
01:42:58,898 --> 01:43:02,702
accounted for 32 of tse, which left us with total

1003
01:43:02,702 --> 01:43:08,702
notifications of 92 out of the 724 requested by Ice. So a

1004
01:43:10,110 --> 01:43:15,510
response of about 12.7%. As I've heard some questions about

1005
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,322
the notification on the same individual, this slide is

1006
01:43:23,322 --> 01:43:27,193
intended to give a scenario where a person is arrested,

1007
01:43:27,193 --> 01:43:30,196
they're arraigned, they may complete a sentence. They may

1008
01:43:30,196 --> 01:43:32,999
be released out of custody during the pendency of their

1009
01:43:32,999 --> 01:43:36,336
latest charge. Whatever the case may be, if they're

1010
01:43:36,336 --> 01:43:40,406
rebooked into our facility, that automatically triggers and

1011
01:43:40,406 --> 01:43:44,770
this is nationwide, incidentally, a check of

1012
01:43:44,770 --> 01:43:48,481
immigration status through Ice by their fingerprints that go

1013
01:43:48,481 --> 01:43:52,151
to the federal Department of Justice. That's where Ice gets

1014
01:43:52,151 --> 01:43:55,488
their indication that someone that they want to talk to

1015
01:43:55,488 --> 01:43:59,959
arrest, detain, what have you is actually in our custody, in

1016
01:43:59,959 --> 01:44:03,763
this particular jail in California. So they sent a

1017
01:44:03,763 --> 01:44:07,633
notification requesting that they be notified if that person

1018
01:44:07,633 --> 01:44:12,972
is released. When that occurs, we have to check against SB 54,

1019
01:44:12,972 --> 01:44:16,108
make sure that we are compliant with state law, that there is a

1020
01:44:16,108 --> 01:44:20,513
qualifying offense that would allow notification of the

1021
01:44:20,513 --> 01:44:26,719
release to Ice. In some cases, the same person can be booked

1022
01:44:26,719 --> 01:44:29,522
several times during the reporting period. During the

1023
01:44:29,522 --> 01:44:32,992
entire year. That's why we have multiple notification

1024
01:44:32,992 --> 01:44:36,396
notifications on several individuals, and that's why the

1025
01:44:36,396 --> 01:44:42,335
numbers are adjusted the way they are. So this is just a

1026
01:44:42,335 --> 01:44:44,604
list. It's probably difficult to see for most, but it's

1027
01:44:44,604 --> 01:44:48,674
available online. Of course, of all the qualifying offenses

1028
01:44:48,674 --> 01:44:55,274
under the Government code. And there's page two. And then what

1029
01:44:58,485 --> 01:45:00,953
we did this time, the additional data, because I

1030
01:45:00,953 --> 01:45:04,156
think there was some concern in the past that when we had a

1031
01:45:04,156 --> 01:45:07,360
qualifying offense, people would say, well, that's not in

1032
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,297
itself sufficient to do a notification to Ice under SB

1033
01:45:11,297 --> 01:45:17,388
54, when in fact there is oftentimes a long list of other

1034
01:45:17,388 --> 01:45:20,590
crimes committed by that individual, which does make

1035
01:45:20,590 --> 01:45:25,128
them subject to SB 54 and does make them subject to

1036
01:45:25,128 --> 01:45:29,667
notification to Ice. The immigrant rights group, just

1037
01:45:29,667 --> 01:45:33,937
talked about immigrants feeling safe. I agree with that. But

1038
01:45:33,937 --> 01:45:37,207
what you need to remember is that many of the victims that

1039
01:45:37,207 --> 01:45:41,145
are represented by these crimes are themselves immigrants. So

1040
01:45:41,145 --> 01:45:44,948
it's a catch 22 for our deputies when we make arrests

1041
01:45:44,948 --> 01:45:48,180
for a variety of offenses, everything from domestic

1042
01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:52,823
violence. We have one case in here of four times DUI, uh,

1043
01:45:52,823 --> 01:45:57,623
robberies, violent offenses, spousal abuse, etc. and they

1044
01:45:57,827 --> 01:46:01,564
are all provided here in this report. I'll scroll through

1045
01:46:01,564 --> 01:46:05,502
these pages. Obviously, too much data to go through in

1046
01:46:05,502 --> 01:46:10,641
detail, but this is the actual data that we use to determine

1047
01:46:10,641 --> 01:46:14,778
if a person is subject to notification to Ice. And that's

1048
01:46:14,778 --> 01:46:20,117
done by our jail, uh, staff with supervisory review. So let

1049
01:46:20,117 --> 01:46:26,117
me scroll through these. You can see the number of

1050
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:30,990
conviction history is pretty astounding. Frankly. Almost

1051
01:46:36,666 --> 01:46:42,666
none here. So another component of the restrictions on local

1052
01:46:44,341 --> 01:46:48,278
law enforcement is access of Ice officials into our

1053
01:46:48,278 --> 01:46:52,616
facilities. Uh, that used to be a request for an interview.

1054
01:46:52,616 --> 01:46:56,620
Several years ago. There were no requests for interviews. Ice

1055
01:46:56,620 --> 01:47:00,570
is essentially stopped to that practice anyhow, but they would

1056
01:47:00,570 --> 01:47:02,893
not be allowed into our facility to conduct their own

1057
01:47:02,893 --> 01:47:06,763
investigation. Again reminding the community they would only

1058
01:47:06,763 --> 01:47:12,769
be allowed to access the public areas of our facilities. That

1059
01:47:12,769 --> 01:47:17,640
concludes our presentation. I'm happy to answer your questions.

1060
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:21,178
Thank you. To my colleagues. Have

1061
01:47:21,178 --> 01:47:23,447
questions. Or. Yeah, just a question. I

1062
01:47:23,447 --> 01:47:28,251
know in some past, um, presentations, um, some of us

1063
01:47:28,251 --> 01:47:34,658
raised the issue about, um, whether or not the, um, the

1064
01:47:34,658 --> 01:47:39,396
notification was being provided for those who had committed a,

1065
01:47:39,396 --> 01:47:42,999
a serious felony. And we were making a distinction. And I

1066
01:47:42,999 --> 01:47:45,802
think, remember, we had some discussion over where that line

1067
01:47:45,802 --> 01:47:50,473
is. Um, so one of the things I wanted to understand, um, you

1068
01:47:50,473 --> 01:47:56,213
provided some new data that, um, was not presented before.

1069
01:47:56,213 --> 01:48:00,284
Um, the chose conviction history. So I wanted maybe to

1070
01:48:00,284 --> 01:48:03,820
understand this issue because I think I know we were talking

1071
01:48:03,820 --> 01:48:07,224
about it appeared there was no this was when I was looking at

1072
01:48:07,224 --> 01:48:10,227
a prior presentatn, maybe last year or the year before

1073
01:48:10,227 --> 01:48:15,365
there was, um, notification in the case of someone who maybe,

1074
01:48:15,365 --> 01:48:22,390
um, had, um, was in a category that may have been, um, um,

1075
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:25,926
vandalism, for example, and said to me that didn't seem to

1076
01:48:25,926 --> 01:48:29,997
rise to the really to be a serious felony and therefore

1077
01:48:29,997 --> 01:48:32,867
notification should not have been provided there. So I want

1078
01:48:32,867 --> 01:48:35,736
to and at the time you mentioned something about,

1079
01:48:35,736 --> 01:48:40,141
well, this may have been a follow up crime to a previous

1080
01:48:40,141 --> 01:48:43,611
previous previous offense. I want to understand that issue.

1081
01:48:43,611 --> 01:48:49,550
Um, under conviction history. Uh, maybe let me see if we can

1082
01:48:49,550 --> 01:48:56,750
pick one to understand it. Um, um. Trying to see where there

1083
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,963
was one, where there was, um, for example. Well, unlawful

1084
01:49:02,963 --> 01:49:07,835
taking or driving of a vehicle. The or some. So the the

1085
01:49:07,835 --> 01:49:12,635
conviction history list, um, previous arrest or convictions

1086
01:49:15,576 --> 01:49:19,914
or so what, what what is the says conviction or all of these

1087
01:49:19,914 --> 01:49:23,717
convictions or some of these arrests and these are priors

1088
01:49:23,717 --> 01:49:27,917
for this individual. Correct. They are convictions.

1089
01:49:28,389 --> 01:49:36,530
And so how do you then. So if, if the if the if the particular

1090
01:49:36,530 --> 01:49:41,669
crime may not be, let's say viewed as a serious felony and

1091
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:46,741
you provided notification it was it based upon their

1092
01:49:46,741 --> 01:49:50,811
previous conviction history and then and that this then rose to

1093
01:49:50,811 --> 01:49:53,747
the level. Can you talk about that, how that decision is

1094
01:49:53,747 --> 01:49:56,350
arrived at? Because that was there was a lot of discussion

1095
01:49:56,350 --> 01:49:58,752
over that. And I think there was different points of view

1096
01:49:58,752 --> 01:50:00,821
that some of us had of whether you should be providing

1097
01:50:00,821 --> 01:50:05,292
notification on those. Um, and, and you said there was some

1098
01:50:05,292 --> 01:50:07,761
previous conviction history, but at the time you didn't

1099
01:50:07,761 --> 01:50:10,363
disclose what that was. So here you're sharing what it is. I

1100
01:50:10,363 --> 01:50:14,501
want to understand it. Can you maybe take a couple of examples

1101
01:50:14,501 --> 01:50:18,239
and explain that? Sure. Well, in in practice what

1102
01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:21,709
happens is the person is booked into our facility, as I

1103
01:50:21,709 --> 01:50:26,247
mentioned, those fingerprints go to DOJ that notifies ice.

1104
01:50:26,247 --> 01:50:29,650
Ice knows that that person is now in Contra Costa County

1105
01:50:29,650 --> 01:50:33,587
Jail. They send us a request for notification that triggers

1106
01:50:33,587 --> 01:50:39,192
our process to say, okay, is this individual, um, does does

1107
01:50:39,192 --> 01:50:44,592
the offense comport with SB 54 and authorize, uh, notification

1108
01:50:45,265 --> 01:50:50,404
to ice the individual offense that brought them into custody?

1109
01:50:50,404 --> 01:50:54,274
Maybe one thing, but our supervisors review all the

1110
01:50:54,274 --> 01:50:57,770
criminal history, as you see here. And when there are

1111
01:50:57,770 --> 01:51:01,277
qualifying prior offenses, particularly felonies, then we

1112
01:51:01,415 --> 01:51:06,554
notify on that individual. Maybe have a question also for

1113
01:51:06,554 --> 01:51:12,426
the, um, for other presenters on this and how they have

1114
01:51:12,426 --> 01:51:16,697
viewed this issue, can maybe you come up as well? Um, any of

1115
01:51:16,697 --> 01:51:20,456
the lawyers who presented. Can we just elaborate what

1116
01:51:20,456 --> 01:51:25,660
they're coming up? But SB 54 doesn't say. You just look at

1117
01:51:25,660 --> 01:51:28,797
the offense for which someone is under your custody. Is that

1118
01:51:28,797 --> 01:51:34,200
correct? As an SB 50. Getting an or getting an echo?

1119
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,602
Doesn't SB. Someone's going to have.

1120
01:51:38,874 --> 01:51:44,613
Hold on. It's there's an echo. Is that go fixed. Go ahead and

1121
01:51:44,613 --> 01:51:46,348
try. Now I'm going to try now I'm

1122
01:51:46,348 --> 01:51:50,552
feeling better about but doesn't SB 54 say you look at

1123
01:51:50,552 --> 01:51:53,822
the entire criminal record of an individual. It doesn't say

1124
01:51:53,822 --> 01:51:56,291
just for the offense for which they're in jail, which

1125
01:51:56,291 --> 01:52:01,563
typically if they are in jail, um, post adjudication, it's not

1126
01:52:01,563 --> 01:52:03,899
going to be a serious crime anyway because they would have

1127
01:52:03,899 --> 01:52:07,703
gone to a state facility. But what does SB 54 require you to

1128
01:52:07,703 --> 01:52:11,173
do? You're correct. It allows local

1129
01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:14,910
agencies to look at the entire conviction history. It's not

1130
01:52:14,910 --> 01:52:17,779
just the offense that brings that person into physical

1131
01:52:17,779 --> 01:52:19,714
custody at that particular time.

1132
01:52:19,714 --> 01:52:21,714
Thank you. Yeah.

1133
01:52:22,718 --> 01:52:25,540
Did you want to provide any comments? Just trying to

1134
01:52:25,540 --> 01:52:29,257
understand this issue. When the, um, in remember this this

1135
01:52:29,257 --> 01:52:31,459
issue, you may have been here at some of the previous where

1136
01:52:31,459 --> 01:52:34,129
we've discussed where the particular types of crimes

1137
01:52:34,129 --> 01:52:36,865
should get notified and then this issue now of conviction

1138
01:52:36,865 --> 01:52:41,403
history. Can you talk about how others you have viewed this

1139
01:52:41,403 --> 01:52:45,300
issue. Um, so under Cal gov 7282.583,

1140
01:52:59,355 --> 01:53:05,160
it has a language of if a misdemeanor is a wobbler in the

1141
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:10,565
last five years, or a felony in the last ten years, that's when

1142
01:53:10,565 --> 01:53:15,965
prior convictions have to be assessed under SB 54. That's

1143
01:53:16,572 --> 01:53:22,911
what the law says. So SB 54 has you look at those

1144
01:53:22,911 --> 01:53:25,580
at those and then make the determination about whether

1145
01:53:25,580 --> 01:53:28,584
there should be notification. Again, it has to be a wobbler

1146
01:53:28,584 --> 01:53:33,122
misdemeanor in the last five years. And or a felony in the

1147
01:53:33,122 --> 01:53:36,792
last ten years. That's what the law says. That's the

1148
01:53:36,792 --> 01:53:39,928
parameters. If it's not a wobbler, like for example, a

1149
01:53:39,928 --> 01:53:45,134
stray misdemeanor. And to define wobbler is a is, um,

1150
01:53:45,134 --> 01:53:48,737
criminal law that can be punishable either by a

1151
01:53:48,737 --> 01:53:53,408
misdemeanor or a felony, straight misdemeanors are not

1152
01:53:53,408 --> 01:53:57,479
wobbler. So that in itself, if if there was a prior conviction

1153
01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:02,879
that's a straight misdemeanor cannot be, um, assessed under

1154
01:54:04,686 --> 01:54:10,759
70 to 82.5 a three. Um, and so that wouldn't come into the

1155
01:54:10,759 --> 01:54:14,960
analysis at all. That's some of the things that I pointed out

1156
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,365
were straight misdemeanors that we're talking about that are

1157
01:54:17,365 --> 01:54:21,190
concerning in this data report, which don't have prior

1158
01:54:21,190 --> 01:54:25,194
convictions that also would lead into the wobbler five year

1159
01:54:25,194 --> 01:54:32,100
or the felony ten year. Um, category. And I also, um, this

1160
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:35,710
was in the last bit of my presentation, but I'm really

1161
01:54:35,710 --> 01:54:39,271
concerned about the, uh, sheriff's interpretation of

1162
01:54:39,408 --> 01:54:44,480
release dates. Some if someone is, um, arraigned and charged

1163
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:50,480
under 72, 82.5, be it says clearly that the person has to

1164
01:54:50,953 --> 01:54:54,957
be arraigned and the only certain charges for serious

1165
01:54:54,957 --> 01:54:58,895
felonies can be considered at that point. Um, after a

1166
01:54:58,895 --> 01:55:03,695
magistrate provides probable cause under penal Code 877, I'm

1167
01:55:04,300 --> 01:55:10,300
sorry, 872 so I. You cannot notify Ice if someone has

1168
01:55:11,106 --> 01:55:14,911
already been, um, is in custody, has not been

1169
01:55:14,911 --> 01:55:19,182
arraigned, and the D.A. decided not to bring charges. That is

1170
01:55:19,182 --> 01:55:24,387
not a release date under SB 54. And so I really want to make

1171
01:55:24,387 --> 01:55:30,387
sure that we're not bypassing that serious. Um, that serious

1172
01:55:30,793 --> 01:55:33,793
violation that I've, I've identified.

1173
01:55:34,530 --> 01:55:36,530
Thank you. Chanel.

1174
01:55:38,867 --> 01:55:41,871
Thank you, thank you, Sheriff Livingston, for the

1175
01:55:41,871 --> 01:55:46,475
presentation. Um, and I appreciate the additional data

1176
01:55:46,475 --> 01:55:50,120
that's presented here as well today. Um, this is my second

1177
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:54,160
true fact form, so I'm just trying to get an understanding.

1178
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:59,220
So it sounds like there's two notification that goes out to

1179
01:55:59,220 --> 01:56:05,895
ice. So when someone comes in and they get convicted, um, and

1180
01:56:05,895 --> 01:56:10,232
they do fingerprinting, that automatically goes to Ice. And

1181
01:56:10,232 --> 01:56:13,369
then we send out another notification after they go

1182
01:56:13,369 --> 01:56:15,571
through all the process, they need to go through.

1183
01:56:15,571 --> 01:56:19,441
No, what happens is Ice will notify us that this person has

1184
01:56:19,441 --> 01:56:23,780
been booked into your facility. We want to interview this

1185
01:56:23,780 --> 01:56:28,517
person or meet this person or what have you. And so if the

1186
01:56:28,517 --> 01:56:32,588
qualifying offense or prior qualifying offenses comport

1187
01:56:32,588 --> 01:56:36,391
with the law, we will just send them the notification of

1188
01:56:36,391 --> 01:56:41,530
release. Excuse me, when we have that information. So it's

1189
01:56:41,530 --> 01:56:47,403
a it's us responding to their request. It's two way.

1190
01:56:47,403 --> 01:56:50,473
So we're not automatically reaching out to them. No.

1191
01:56:50,473 --> 01:56:54,673
They're triggered because when they're being processed.

1192
01:56:54,744 --> 01:56:58,347
That's correct. And as you can see from the numbers, it's only

1193
01:56:58,347 --> 01:57:02,151
12% of the total requests that they make that we actually

1194
01:57:02,151 --> 01:57:04,151
respond to. Okay.

1195
01:57:07,557 --> 01:57:09,557
Thank you. Um.

1196
01:57:11,293 --> 01:57:14,963
There was a. There was a discussion about

1197
01:57:14,963 --> 01:57:20,289
anticipated release dates versus do you want to comment

1198
01:57:20,289 --> 01:57:23,125
any more on that? Uh, not particularly.

1199
01:57:23,125 --> 01:57:26,725
Okay. No. I do want to.

1200
01:57:27,529 --> 01:57:29,598
Follow up just on when you're done on that.

1201
01:57:29,598 --> 01:57:31,267
Okay. All right. I have another

1202
01:57:31,267 --> 01:57:34,690
question to. I think you're going to get

1203
01:57:34,690 --> 01:57:38,740
asked a little bit more about that. Um, sure. You know, I do

1204
01:57:38,740 --> 01:57:44,130
want people to know that we do have a regular interaction with

1205
01:57:44,130 --> 01:57:49,485
you and the board meetings. Um, we call it Sheriff Oversight

1206
01:57:49,485 --> 01:57:54,220
and that you've created a dashboard that kind of talks

1207
01:57:54,220 --> 01:57:57,959
about who's getting arrested, where and all of that. And so

1208
01:57:57,959 --> 01:58:04,366
just for folks that maybe this is their first truth forum, you

1209
01:58:04,366 --> 01:58:09,305
know, you pointed out that the area that you provide for, um,

1210
01:58:09,305 --> 01:58:12,241
law enforcement, the unincorporated is, is bigger

1211
01:58:12,241 --> 01:58:15,244
than really any of the cities, both geographically and

1212
01:58:15,244 --> 01:58:20,449
population. You also contract for some cities, but the

1213
01:58:20,449 --> 01:58:25,387
majority of the arrests and all of that are not necessarily

1214
01:58:25,387 --> 01:58:28,387
coming from the sheriff's office.

1215
01:58:29,580 --> 01:58:32,461
That's that's correct. Right. And so your

1216
01:58:32,461 --> 01:58:36,661
responsibility is not necessarily all those people

1217
01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:41,670
that are coming into the jail, but once they're there, then

1218
01:58:41,670 --> 01:58:44,740
you have certain things and it sounds like what you're saying

1219
01:58:44,740 --> 01:58:48,878
is that when they are booked, they get into a system that

1220
01:58:48,878 --> 01:58:52,478
automatically automated notifies. Is that correct?

1221
01:58:53,348 --> 01:58:58,870
That is correct. And then they reach out to you

1222
01:58:58,870 --> 01:59:03,626
and then you respond to a portion of those requests.

1223
01:59:03,626 --> 01:59:08,764
Yeah, about 12%. We actually respond to 90%. We don't. But

1224
01:59:08,764 --> 01:59:12,702
Ice will send us a request for notification when that person

1225
01:59:12,702 --> 01:59:15,704
is to be released. And that's what we do.

1226
01:59:15,704 --> 01:59:22,511
Okay. Um. That was my question, but I know that my question

1227
01:59:22,511 --> 01:59:24,846
triggered. So I'm going to let Schnell go first, and then I'll

1228
01:59:24,846 --> 01:59:30,653
let John go. So in terms of the back to the

1229
01:59:30,653 --> 01:59:35,991
notifications, and because I was in San Mateo County for the

1230
01:59:35,991 --> 01:59:39,610
belonging in the Bay convening, and so there Sheriff was there

1231
01:59:39,610 --> 01:59:44,333
presenting as well. And they do not cooperate with Ice at all

1232
01:59:44,333 --> 01:59:50,720
like communicate at all. So what if we did not respond when

1233
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:53,676
Ice reached out to us? They already had the information,

1234
01:59:53,676 --> 01:59:57,746
right? Because they just got processed that individual. So

1235
01:59:57,746 --> 02:00:02,417
if we didn't respond back to them at all, is that a

1236
02:00:02,417 --> 02:00:05,421
violation of SB 54? No, that wouldn't be a

1237
02:00:05,421 --> 02:00:10,221
violation. And so, um, I'm sure you talked

1238
02:00:10,492 --> 02:00:15,764
to other counties. Um, and how they are moving towards, you

1239
02:00:15,764 --> 02:00:20,988
know, not cooperating with Ice at all. And in your terms of

1240
02:00:20,988 --> 02:00:24,325
is, do you like, do the sheriffs have some type of

1241
02:00:24,325 --> 02:00:27,195
working group of how the Bay area counties are working

1242
02:00:27,195 --> 02:00:32,266
together so that we're all kind of following along the same

1243
02:00:32,266 --> 02:00:36,270
line of making sure that our immigrant community is safe?

1244
02:00:36,270 --> 02:00:41,275
Um, and we're not complying if it's if it's not a rule like a

1245
02:00:41,275 --> 02:00:46,146
law by the state of California, I guess. Why are we continuing

1246
02:00:46,146 --> 02:00:48,482
to provide additional information?

1247
02:00:48,482 --> 02:00:52,860
So there's in response to your question, there's 58 counties

1248
02:00:52,860 --> 02:00:58,860
in California, and anecdotally, I would have to say 75%, maybe

1249
02:00:58,158 --> 02:01:02,963
80% of sheriffs do exactly what I'm doing, which is to notify

1250
02:01:02,963 --> 02:01:07,340
when they have an individual that meets SB 54. There are a

1251
02:01:07,340 --> 02:01:10,237
few counties a couple up here in Northern California, a few

1252
02:01:10,237 --> 02:01:13,400
in southern that have said they're not going to do any

1253
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,644
cooperation. And there are sheriffs San Diego among them,

1254
02:01:17,644 --> 02:01:20,714
who will do exactly as I'm doing, even though the board

1255
02:01:20,714 --> 02:01:25,119
has said, we don't want you to. She believes, as I do, that we

1256
02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:29,123
have an obligation to the community at large to provide

1257
02:01:29,123 --> 02:01:32,459
public safety services. And if we have someone who's enter the

1258
02:01:32,459 --> 02:01:35,662
country illegally, that's one thing. But if they're here,

1259
02:01:35,662 --> 02:01:39,801
they commit crime after crime after crime, and Ice wants to

1260
02:01:39,801 --> 02:01:43,738
interview them or detain them. We allow that. That's the only

1261
02:01:43,738 --> 02:01:49,138
notification we do. And that's what most sheriffs do.

1262
02:01:50,545 --> 02:01:54,415
My question is dealt with. The, um, notification of release. I

1263
02:01:54,415 --> 02:01:58,619
remember a few years ago, um, we we we expressed concern

1264
02:01:58,619 --> 02:02:03,224
about the, um, the list of release dates that were posted

1265
02:02:03,224 --> 02:02:09,430
on your website. And we, um, um, many of us thought that

1266
02:02:09,430 --> 02:02:12,767
that wasn't necessary and that. So you changed the policy, and

1267
02:02:12,767 --> 02:02:17,638
that's no longer posted on your website. Um, but so I'm trying

1268
02:02:17,638 --> 02:02:23,440
to understand, um, it where you do provide notification of

1269
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,647
anticipate release dates are that honored only for inmates

1270
02:02:26,647 --> 02:02:29,383
held for certain charges. Specifically, inmates convicted

1271
02:02:29,383 --> 02:02:34,722
of a serious or violent felony. So is that then a subset of the

1272
02:02:34,722 --> 02:02:39,927
total notification? So if you look at the list of of crimes

1273
02:02:39,927 --> 02:02:43,531
in which you provide notification, is that the same

1274
02:02:43,531 --> 02:02:47,735
list that you provide notification of, of anticipated

1275
02:02:47,735 --> 02:02:50,735
release dates as well? Yes.

1276
02:02:50,738 --> 02:02:54,208
So every everyone on this list potentially you would provide

1277
02:02:54,208 --> 02:02:57,808
notifications of of anticipated release dates.

1278
02:02:57,812 --> 02:03:01,215
The 92 that you see are all about qualifying offenses.

1279
02:03:01,215 --> 02:03:04,218
That's why we would do the notification and and why we

1280
02:03:04,218 --> 02:03:06,887
would reject others that don't meet the qualifications.

1281
02:03:06,887 --> 02:03:13,294
Right. And then, um, the I was looking at the other, um, it

1282
02:03:13,294 --> 02:03:16,631
says Ice agents who request to pick up a released inmate may

1283
02:03:16,631 --> 02:03:19,634
only wait in the public lobby and will not receive any

1284
02:03:19,634 --> 02:03:22,254
assistance unless there is compelling risk to public

1285
02:03:22,254 --> 02:03:29,393
safety. So, ah, is I showing up to pick up released inmates?

1286
02:03:29,393 --> 02:03:33,664
Who are that they find out and other ways that are not these

1287
02:03:33,664 --> 02:03:38,200
92 that you have here or there? Is this referring to Ice agents

1288
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:42,341
who are waiting to pick up the 92 that they were notified

1289
02:03:42,341 --> 02:03:45,276
about? It could be either we don't

1290
02:03:45,276 --> 02:03:49,347
track when Ice or any federal agency or state agency is in

1291
02:03:49,347 --> 02:03:52,617
our lobby, frankly, so we don't know if they come in or if they

1292
02:03:52,617 --> 02:03:55,686
meet them out in front of the facility. If they don't come at

1293
02:03:55,686 --> 02:03:59,491
all, which occurs, or if they come and they do an interview

1294
02:03:59,491 --> 02:04:02,894
with that individual, they may, I've been told they may release

1295
02:04:02,894 --> 02:04:07,432
that individual pending further action of the of the court. So

1296
02:04:07,432 --> 02:04:10,836
there's no tracking done. So I can't answer your question.

1297
02:04:10,836 --> 02:04:15,173
Or they, um, for example, victims can still search for

1298
02:04:15,173 --> 02:04:17,375
release dates by name. Correct.

1299
02:04:17,375 --> 02:04:21,513
Has I does Ice have access to that as well? Only victims.

1300
02:04:21,513 --> 02:04:24,649
They would if well under the vine system victims do. But

1301
02:04:24,649 --> 02:04:28,530
under our system. Do you know if no.

1302
02:04:28,530 --> 02:04:33,191
So victims can search the release dates under the law,

1303
02:04:33,191 --> 02:04:37,195
under this system. But Ice doesn't have access to that

1304
02:04:37,195 --> 02:04:39,330
system. I know they don't have access

1305
02:04:39,330 --> 02:04:41,533
to that. I have to, unless they talk to

1306
02:04:41,533 --> 02:04:44,100
a victim. And the victim does it. They do it through the

1307
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:46,100
victim. True.

1308
02:04:47,873 --> 02:04:50,273
Okay, Ken. Thanks. Candice.

1309
02:04:52,143 --> 02:04:55,280
I'm my comments. I'll save for after we hear from the public.

1310
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:57,348
All righty. No more questions then.

1311
02:04:57,348 --> 02:05:00,619
I will take it to public comments.

1312
02:05:00,619 --> 02:05:03,421
We do have comments in chambers. If there are any

1313
02:05:03,421 --> 02:05:06,558
callers or zoom participants who would like to speak on the

1314
02:05:06,558 --> 02:05:09,961
community forum, please press pound two. If you're on the

1315
02:05:09,961 --> 02:05:14,899
phone or raise your hand in the zoom app, and we will start

1316
02:05:14,899 --> 02:05:20,371
with our comments and chambers. The first five speakers are

1317
02:05:20,371 --> 02:05:26,371
Vilma, Sonia Diaz, Natalia and Anna. Please come to both

1318
02:05:30,181 --> 02:05:34,981
podiums. And all of those folks come on

1319
02:05:43,461 --> 02:05:46,997
up and you're going to take turns between the podiums. That

1320
02:05:46,997 --> 02:05:52,403
way we can move along and, Oh, welcome, welcome, welcome.

1321
02:05:52,403 --> 02:05:54,272
Hi. Thank you. Um. Good morning,

1322
02:05:54,272 --> 02:05:57,700
Board of supervisors and the sheriff's department. My name

1323
02:05:57,700 --> 02:05:59,343
is Velma, and I am here today as part of the East County

1324
02:05:59,343 --> 02:06:02,213
Rapid Response Coalition. Since the current administration has

1325
02:06:02,213 --> 02:06:04,549
implemented their harmful agenda on immigration

1326
02:06:04,549 --> 02:06:06,951
enforcement throughout the nation, we have seen an impact

1327
02:06:06,951 --> 02:06:10,221
it has caused in our community members, our community members

1328
02:06:10,221 --> 02:06:13,557
is afraid to go to the grocery stores, take their children to

1329
02:06:13,557 --> 02:06:17,696
school, receive needed health care, and even report crimes.

1330
02:06:17,696 --> 02:06:20,781
Due to these and other reasons, we are here to urge Sheriff

1331
02:06:20,781 --> 02:06:22,916
Livingston and his department to stop their partnership with

1332
02:06:22,916 --> 02:06:25,786
federal agencies and cancel all contracts. We urge the

1333
02:06:25,786 --> 02:06:28,456
department to restructure and model itself similarly to San

1334
02:06:28,456 --> 02:06:32,659
Mateo County, as one of our um council members has mentioned,

1335
02:06:32,659 --> 02:06:36,330
they're stopped in little to no interactions with these

1336
02:06:36,330 --> 02:06:40,400
agencies that they do not share their county funded facilities.

1337
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,203
They don't even share their training facilities or parking

1338
02:06:43,203 --> 02:06:46,607
lots with these agencies. Please do what is right for all

1339
02:06:46,607 --> 02:06:49,342
your constituents, regardless of their immigration status,

1340
02:06:49,342 --> 02:06:52,746
that you have sworn to protect and serve. Thank you.

1341
02:06:52,746 --> 02:06:57,350
Thank you. I'm here today as part of the

1342
02:06:57,350 --> 02:07:00,554
East County Rapid Response Coalition. Since the current

1343
02:07:00,554 --> 02:07:03,357
administration has implemented their harmful agenda of

1344
02:07:03,357 --> 02:07:06,493
immigration enforcement throughout the nation, we have

1345
02:07:06,493 --> 02:07:10,431
seen the impact it has caused on many community members. As

1346
02:07:10,431 --> 02:07:13,366
many of us have seen, immigration enforcement has not

1347
02:07:13,366 --> 02:07:17,370
been going after the criminals, the murderers or the rapists

1348
02:07:17,370 --> 02:07:20,508
know they are detaining the innocent, the vulnerable, and

1349
02:07:20,508 --> 02:07:24,311
they are destroying families for absolutely no reason. We

1350
02:07:24,311 --> 02:07:27,914
are here today to urge Sheriff Livingston and his department

1351
02:07:27,914 --> 02:07:31,585
to stop their partnership with federal agencies and cancel all

1352
02:07:31,585 --> 02:07:34,655
contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and

1353
02:07:34,655 --> 02:07:37,324
Immigration and Customs Enforcement Department in

1354
02:07:37,324 --> 02:07:40,994
Contra Costa County. We urge the department to restructure

1355
02:07:40,994 --> 02:07:45,132
and model itself similarly to San Mateo County, where the

1356
02:07:45,132 --> 02:07:48,468
sheriff has cut and limited interactions with federal

1357
02:07:48,468 --> 02:07:51,539
agencies. They do not share their county funding training

1358
02:07:51,539 --> 02:07:55,743
facilities with agents, nor the uses of county buildings. We

1359
02:07:55,743 --> 02:07:58,679
urge for transparent quarterly reports that are available to

1360
02:07:58,679 --> 02:08:02,683
the public on any and all DHS Ice interactions for their

1361
02:08:02,683 --> 02:08:07,888
constituents to see. If you continue to work with Ice.

1362
02:08:07,888 --> 02:08:11,492
Sheriff Livingston, I want to ask you what makes you any

1363
02:08:11,492 --> 02:08:15,296
different, any better than these Ice agents? If you're not

1364
02:08:15,296 --> 02:08:18,165
helping to protect our community, the community that

1365
02:08:18,165 --> 02:08:21,568
you swore an oath to protect and serve, then you are

1366
02:08:21,568 --> 02:08:25,105
complicit in the abuse and violence that has and will

1367
02:08:25,105 --> 02:08:28,776
plague our community. Is this the legacy you want to leave

1368
02:08:28,776 --> 02:08:34,176
behind? Thank you. Thank you. I'm here today as

1369
02:08:38,518 --> 02:08:40,187
far as the East. County Rapid Response

1370
02:08:40,187 --> 02:08:42,856
Coalition. Since this administration's immigration

1371
02:08:42,856 --> 02:08:46,594
enforcement agenda has expanded nationwide, our community has

1372
02:08:46,594 --> 02:08:48,929
felt the impact directly. People are afraid to leave

1373
02:08:48,929 --> 02:08:52,399
their homes to get groceries, take their kids to school, seek

1374
02:08:52,399 --> 02:08:55,870
health care or report crimes. That's why we're urging Sheriff

1375
02:08:55,870 --> 02:08:58,205
David O. Livingston and this department to end their

1376
02:08:58,205 --> 02:09:00,874
partnership with federal immigration agencies and cancel

1377
02:09:00,874 --> 02:09:07,474
all contracts with DHS and Ice, and Contra Costa County. We're

1378
02:09:08,482 --> 02:09:11,952
also asking for transparent quarterly public reports on any

1379
02:09:11,952 --> 02:09:15,156
dis interactions, so your constituents can see exactly

1380
02:09:15,156 --> 02:09:18,425
what's happening in our county. Please do what's right for all

1381
02:09:18,425 --> 02:09:20,961
of your constituents and the people you swore to protect and

1382
02:09:20,961 --> 02:09:22,961
serve. Thank you.

1383
02:09:30,789 --> 02:09:34,580
My name is Anna. I'm a member of the League of Women Voters

1384
02:09:34,580 --> 02:09:38,630
of Diablo Valley. We are a nonpartisan organization and

1385
02:09:38,630 --> 02:09:41,467
never support a candidate or a party. However, we are not

1386
02:09:41,467 --> 02:09:44,536
non-political. We take positions in line with the

1387
02:09:44,536 --> 02:09:47,806
organization's mission of defending democracy and

1388
02:09:47,806 --> 02:09:51,877
empowering voters. I'm here in support of Aria's

1389
02:09:51,877 --> 02:09:56,140
recommendations. Ice is in our backyard. The closure of San

1390
02:09:56,140 --> 02:09:59,614
Francisco's 100 Montgomery Street Immigration Court has

1391
02:10:00,180 --> 02:10:04,223
transferred a backlog of 120,000 cases to the Concord

1392
02:10:04,223 --> 02:10:08,960
immigration Court, tripling the caseload. This really increases

1393
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:15,330
ICE's presence at at the court and in the county. Um, nothing

1394
02:10:15,330 --> 02:10:18,437
that we're asking prevents the sheriff's department from

1395
02:10:18,437 --> 02:10:23,909
continuing to do their job and to protect the community. Uh,

1396
02:10:23,909 --> 02:10:26,779
what we want them to do, however, is to consider the

1397
02:10:26,779 --> 02:10:31,517
entire community. I never imagined a day that having two

1398
02:10:31,517 --> 02:10:36,121
sheriffs in full gear exit their vehicle y while parked

1399
02:10:36,121 --> 02:10:41,593
next to me would fill me with fear. But it did. Please do

1400
02:10:41,593 --> 02:10:44,262
what so many counties and cities in California have

1401
02:10:44,262 --> 02:10:49,601
already done. You can help ease the fear that so many feel by

1402
02:10:49,601 --> 02:10:54,205
passing an ordinance that can be enforced, not just a policy,

1403
02:10:54,205 --> 02:10:58,877
but an ordinance. Stop responding to Ice notifications

1404
02:10:58,877 --> 02:11:03,481
and all cooperation with Ice. What we know is that in

1405
02:11:03,481 --> 02:11:05,883
Northern California and surrounding counties,

1406
02:11:05,883 --> 02:11:09,421
cooperation with Ice has ceased. I would ask that we do

1407
02:11:09,421 --> 02:11:14,493
the same. Let's mirror what the community wants and needs.

1408
02:11:14,493 --> 02:11:18,363
Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to I'm

1409
02:11:18,363 --> 02:11:20,765
going to pause for just a second, and we're going to call

1410
02:11:20,765 --> 02:11:23,968
more people up. I apologize, but that way we can keep things

1411
02:11:23,968 --> 02:11:27,706
moving. Thank you. The next five speakers are

1412
02:11:27,706 --> 02:11:33,706
Catherine, Jane, Jan, Rich and Anna Hernandez. Please come to

1413
02:11:36,781 --> 02:11:40,381
both podiums. Hello, I am Natalia,

1414
02:11:42,654 --> 02:11:46,570
representing Reimagine Richmond to express our concerns of the

1415
02:11:46,570 --> 02:11:51,997
violations of the Truth Act. SB 54. We are calling for the

1416
02:11:51,997 --> 02:11:55,600
Contra Costa County to take additional actions to stop

1417
02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:59,337
practice the practice of harm in our communities,

1418
02:11:59,337 --> 02:12:02,741
specifically in our immigrant communities, and contribute to

1419
02:12:02,741 --> 02:12:05,744
the dangerous federal enforcements of surveillance.

1420
02:12:05,744 --> 02:12:08,212
Specifically, we are recommending that the county

1421
02:12:08,212 --> 02:12:12,150
stops responding to Ice notifications altogether. We

1422
02:12:12,150 --> 02:12:15,220
need to join the rest of the bay in passing a county

1423
02:12:15,220 --> 02:12:19,424
ordinance to end all Ice cooperation, and the county's

1424
02:12:19,424 --> 02:12:23,161
flock safety contract as a surveillance system is

1425
02:12:23,161 --> 02:12:26,161
negatively, negatively affecting our communities.

1426
02:12:26,565 --> 02:12:31,965
Terminate all efforts to receive federal ARP funding for

1427
02:12:32,637 --> 02:12:37,109
incarcerated migrants. Contra Costa has has long been a

1428
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:40,312
beacon of hope for those seeking a better life, and we

1429
02:12:40,312 --> 02:12:43,248
must continue to uphold policies that foster care and

1430
02:12:43,248 --> 02:12:47,185
compassion for all people. We are not criminals. It is

1431
02:12:47,185 --> 02:12:50,588
important to remember that our strength lies in our diversity.

1432
02:12:50,588 --> 02:12:55,260
Immigrants play a crucial role in the social, economic and

1433
02:12:55,260 --> 02:12:59,865
cultural fabric of our city, and we must ensure that they

1434
02:12:59,865 --> 02:13:04,936
have the support and protection that they need to thrive. At a

1435
02:13:04,936 --> 02:13:07,739
time when immigrant communities across Contra Costa are being

1436
02:13:07,739 --> 02:13:12,210
targeted, we must ensure that every resident feels safe, not

1437
02:13:12,210 --> 02:13:16,410
public safety, but community safety. Therefore, Reimagine

1438
02:13:16,882 --> 02:13:21,153
Richmond continues to urge the sheriff's office to end all

1439
02:13:21,153 --> 02:13:25,557
collaborations with Ice, even if it's just 12%, including

1440
02:13:25,557 --> 02:13:29,160
responding to Ice requests to release time notifications.

1441
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:33,631
Given the compliance nature of SB 54, continuing Ice

1442
02:13:33,631 --> 02:13:39,631
notifications Open Up opens up the county to liability. I'll

1443
02:13:39,971 --> 02:13:46,571
end it up by saying we need this now. Thank you.

1444
02:13:47,450 --> 02:13:50,248
Hey, welcome. Hi, I'm Catherine Whaley,

1445
02:13:50,248 --> 02:13:52,384
resident of Walnut Creek, member of ace and the Racial

1446
02:13:52,384 --> 02:13:56,855
Justice Coalition. So do you know what Scap funding is? I

1447
02:13:56,855 --> 02:13:59,457
sure didn't until a few months ago when reading a San

1448
02:13:59,457 --> 02:14:04,262
Francisco Standard article. Did you know that in 2024, Contra

1449
02:14:04,262 --> 02:14:08,667
Costa was one of the top ten recipients nationwide? I sure

1450
02:14:08,667 --> 02:14:11,937
didn't until I read that article. This federal program

1451
02:14:11,937 --> 02:14:15,273
reimburses states and counties for incarcerating undocumented

1452
02:14:15,273 --> 02:14:18,876
people, but in exchange, counties must share a list of

1453
02:14:18,876 --> 02:14:22,280
the name, birth date, country of origin, and date of

1454
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:25,283
incarceration of every person in jail or in prison. That

1455
02:14:25,283 --> 02:14:29,210
year. Then a private company helps the federal government

1456
02:14:29,210 --> 02:14:33,225
identify undocumented people on the list. When folks expressed

1457
02:14:33,225 --> 02:14:36,628
concerns about collaboration with immigration enforcement, I

1458
02:14:36,628 --> 02:14:40,980
think sometimes people only envision people with mustaches,

1459
02:14:40,980 --> 02:14:42,167
villains trolling their mustaches while they're in

1460
02:14:42,167 --> 02:14:45,771
shape, making shady backroom deals. But in reality, the

1461
02:14:45,771 --> 02:14:48,707
collaboration and cooperation folks are concerned about can

1462
02:14:48,707 --> 02:14:51,710
be found in the seemingly mundane details within

1463
02:14:51,710 --> 02:14:55,313
contracts or reimbursement programs that may easily be

1464
02:14:55,313 --> 02:14:58,649
overlooked by decision makers like yourselves. But the

1465
02:14:58,649 --> 02:15:02,520
impacts of these decisions are not mundane. The impacts of

1466
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:06,390
these decisions can cause profound harm. In the case of

1467
02:15:06,390 --> 02:15:09,194
Scap, we're essentially exchanging personal information

1468
02:15:09,194 --> 02:15:13,131
about people in our custody for money. That's personal

1469
02:15:13,131 --> 02:15:15,667
information that could lead to Ice detaining people after

1470
02:15:15,667 --> 02:15:18,937
their release from jail or prison. Not only that, but

1471
02:15:18,937 --> 02:15:21,873
according to when the authors of the law, Scap violates the

1472
02:15:21,873 --> 02:15:24,815
California Values Act, which prohibits California law

1473
02:15:24,815 --> 02:15:27,483
enforcement from sharing personal information about an

1474
02:15:27,483 --> 02:15:31,683
undocumented individual, including the person's name. To

1475
02:15:31,888 --> 02:15:35,910
be clear, this is not a new problem unique to only this

1476
02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:39,290
administration. Indeed, under the Obama administration, they

1477
02:15:39,290 --> 02:15:41,298
were adding more conditions when it came to the getting

1478
02:15:41,298 --> 02:15:44,434
Scap reimbursement. Please reject Scap funds moving

1479
02:15:44,434 --> 02:15:46,836
forward. We need to end this practice, which violates our

1480
02:15:46,836 --> 02:15:52,836
state law and our. Allergan. It's good to see you.

1481
02:15:54,977 --> 02:16:00,984
Good to see you. Uh. Diane Warren with impact. I live in

1482
02:16:00,984 --> 02:16:04,387
Walnut Creek. Uh, these are not normal times. We need to keep

1483
02:16:04,387 --> 02:16:09,726
reminding ourselves. Um, I, uh, supported the Sierra request

1484
02:16:09,726 --> 02:16:16,326
today. I, repeat that we need a non cooperative ordinance, and

1485
02:16:16,532 --> 02:16:19,669
I want to highlight the enormous increase of people in

1486
02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:24,140
our immigration court in Concord. Uh, they closed San

1487
02:16:24,140 --> 02:16:29,540
Francisco. They were behind 60,000 cases. Now we are. You

1488
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:32,882
know, you're getting 100 people at a time. They say, come on

1489
02:16:32,882 --> 02:16:35,752
down on such and such state. And, you know, by the way, we

1490
02:16:35,752 --> 02:16:39,823
haven't contacted you in a year and a half. Um, and so we have

1491
02:16:39,823 --> 02:16:43,920
a lot of people driving around who maybe aren't familiar with

1492
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:47,163
our area. And I'm curious as to, uh, things like

1493
02:16:47,163 --> 02:16:50,166
misdemeanors or, uh, what's this brown person doing in our

1494
02:16:50,166 --> 02:16:53,569
neighborhood? Sort of a thing. Or why would someone pull them

1495
02:16:53,569 --> 02:16:57,774
over? We don't know why, but these are not normal times. And

1496
02:16:57,774 --> 02:17:02,445
and that happens. Then we have this excessive amount of data

1497
02:17:02,445 --> 02:17:07,716
everywhere. Databases in public, from state to local to

1498
02:17:07,716 --> 02:17:11,187
county, all over the place. Federal. And somebody can get

1499
02:17:11,187 --> 02:17:13,322
pulled over and they look up something, and next thing you

1500
02:17:13,322 --> 02:17:16,726
know, that information is being picked up and shared with some

1501
02:17:16,726 --> 02:17:22,531
other agency. So it's a real problem. And, um, I would ask

1502
02:17:22,531 --> 02:17:26,669
us to find ways I heard something today. Uh, out of

1503
02:17:26,669 --> 02:17:29,806
Chicago, but, uh, prosecutors I know were with the sheriff

1504
02:17:29,806 --> 02:17:32,875
department, but that that was happening there. So you may

1505
02:17:32,875 --> 02:17:35,770
think you have all the right rules in place, and you're

1506
02:17:35,770 --> 02:17:38,810
following all of them, but it doesn't take but somebody who

1507
02:17:38,810 --> 02:17:41,684
knows how to get into that or just ask a question. Simple

1508
02:17:41,684 --> 02:17:44,954
question. Pull somebody over, ask him a question, and next

1509
02:17:44,954 --> 02:17:47,891
thing you know, two days later they're getting picked up. So

1510
02:17:47,891 --> 02:17:52,691
thank you. Hi. My name is Anna Hernandez

1511
02:17:57,434 --> 02:18:00,637
and I'm a Pittsburgh resident. I'm here to talk about the no

1512
02:18:00,637 --> 02:18:04,440
data center that's going on in Pittsburgh. Uh, I'm here along

1513
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:07,376
with my neighbors today. Sorry, we are only taking

1514
02:18:07,376 --> 02:18:09,245
comments on the truth forum right now.

1515
02:18:09,245 --> 02:18:11,781
Oh, okay. I'm sorry. That's okay. Anna,

1516
02:18:11,781 --> 02:18:15,510
just stick around. We'll do public comment towards the end

1517
02:18:15,510 --> 02:18:20,560
of the day. But, um, not trying to turn your voice off, but we

1518
02:18:20,560 --> 02:18:24,256
are doing the truth forum, right? Okay.

1519
02:18:25,804 --> 02:18:28,740
Hi supervisors. My name is Rich Whipple. I'm with the Contra

1520
02:18:28,740 --> 02:18:31,142
Costa Immigrant Rights Alliance. I wanted to thank you

1521
02:18:31,142 --> 02:18:33,878
and the sheriff for holding this important forum and for

1522
02:18:33,878 --> 02:18:36,681
the detailed information that's been provided today to us in

1523
02:18:36,681 --> 02:18:40,551
community. I did want to just reiterate and emphasize key

1524
02:18:40,551 --> 02:18:44,210
community needs and our asks of the board and of the sheriff.

1525
02:18:44,210 --> 02:18:47,892
First, stop responding to Ice notifications altogether. I

1526
02:18:47,892 --> 02:18:50,428
think that's been made clear in the presentations and community

1527
02:18:50,428 --> 02:18:54,832
comment before mine. Second, join the rest of the bay in

1528
02:18:54,832 --> 02:18:58,103
passing an Ice non-cooperation ordinance. I know we've talked

1529
02:18:58,103 --> 02:19:00,171
a lot about this in other spaces. I think today's

1530
02:19:00,171 --> 02:19:04,442
conversation underscores the importance of that work. Third,

1531
02:19:04,442 --> 02:19:08,246
and the county's flock safety contract, we're seeing other

1532
02:19:08,246 --> 02:19:11,382
municipalities do this around the state, around the region,

1533
02:19:11,382 --> 02:19:15,320
and ask Contra Costa to do the same. And last, as was just

1534
02:19:15,320 --> 02:19:18,456
spoken by another community member, please terminate and

1535
02:19:18,456 --> 02:19:22,460
reject any efforts to receive federal Scap funds for

1536
02:19:22,460 --> 02:19:26,640
incarcerating migrants. Lastly, I wanted to share my

1537
02:19:26,640 --> 02:19:29,000
frustration and disappointment with the censorship by the

1538
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:32,670
county administrator's office who removed slides and redacted

1539
02:19:32,670 --> 02:19:36,600
information from our community presentation, including our

1540
02:19:36,600 --> 02:19:39,610
recommendations related to FLoC, the censorship certainly

1541
02:19:39,610 --> 02:19:42,213
contradicts the intent of this forum, and it really makes

1542
02:19:42,213 --> 02:19:45,416
government less responsive and less accessible to community.

1543
02:19:45,416 --> 02:19:50,216
Thank you again for your time. Thank you.

1544
02:19:53,291 --> 02:19:56,891
Good morning, Jane from Richmond, California.

1545
02:19:56,895 --> 02:20:00,765
We get to see you. Don't start our time. It's good to see you.

1546
02:20:00,765 --> 02:20:03,701
We hear your voice often, but we don't see you in person as

1547
02:20:03,701 --> 02:20:07,439
much. Well, welcome. I was getting kind of tired of

1548
02:20:07,439 --> 02:20:09,641
coming to these truth. Forums.

1549
02:20:09,641 --> 02:20:14,112
I don't know how many years we have been holding them. Uh, the

1550
02:20:14,112 --> 02:20:18,316
Contra Costa Racial Justice Coalition has opposed a

1551
02:20:18,316 --> 02:20:22,921
cooperation with Ice. Um, I really do regret the fact that

1552
02:20:22,921 --> 02:20:26,991
we call these quarterly reports from the sheriff oversight.

1553
02:20:26,991 --> 02:20:31,791
That is not exactly what oversight means. Oversight

1554
02:20:31,996 --> 02:20:36,868
means another body that actually looks at what's going

1555
02:20:36,868 --> 02:20:41,405
on, enters the detention facilities to see conditions

1556
02:20:41,405 --> 02:20:44,942
and so forth. It is an improvement, and I appreciate

1557
02:20:44,942 --> 02:20:48,746
it, but let's not keep calling that oversight. It's really not

1558
02:20:48,746 --> 02:20:55,219
oversight. Um, as far as this issue today, um, I don't think

1559
02:20:55,219 --> 02:21:00,224
I need to repeat. These are not, as Jan said, normal times.

1560
02:21:00,224 --> 02:21:04,696
This truth act is happening at a time when we're dealing with

1561
02:21:04,696 --> 02:21:10,696
an unlawful federal agency, an unlawful federal agency. We are

1562
02:21:12,704 --> 02:21:19,844
following as best as we can. Some state laws, but we must

1563
02:21:19,844 --> 02:21:24,725
take a strong stand in the face of the growing

1564
02:21:24,725 --> 02:21:29,997
authoritarianism, the cruelty, the arrest of people off the

1565
02:21:29,997 --> 02:21:35,469
streets. This forum has a context, and you must, as

1566
02:21:35,469 --> 02:21:42,690
supervisors, act with bravery, as many have done in much less

1567
02:21:42,276 --> 02:21:47,748
friendly environments than the Bay area, and take the stand.

1568
02:21:47,748 --> 02:21:52,285
That is the the public is demanding. We need an

1569
02:21:52,285 --> 02:21:57,900
enforceable ordinance applying to all parts of our county

1570
02:21:57,900 --> 02:22:03,900
government. No cooperation with Ice at all. You're going to

1571
02:22:04,431 --> 02:22:08,340
deal with this issue, I imagine, on September 8th,

1572
02:22:08,340 --> 02:22:13,400
you'll be hearing from a lot more people that day. Do it.

1573
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:17,845
Think about it and be ready to pass an ordinance on September

1574
02:22:17,845 --> 02:22:19,513
8th. Thank you. Thank you.

1575
02:22:19,513 --> 02:22:24,313
Jane. I kind of missed the call out.

1576
02:22:26,253 --> 02:22:28,321
So we have more people. Come on.

1577
02:22:28,321 --> 02:22:34,261
In the next five speakers are Joanna, followed by Mariana,

1578
02:22:34,261 --> 02:22:39,661
Chappie, Devin and Linda. Please come to both podiums.

1579
02:22:51,879 --> 02:22:55,820
Good morning. Um. Hello, everybody. My name is Joanna

1580
02:22:55,820 --> 02:22:58,152
Godinho, and I am the policy advocacy system change

1581
02:22:58,152 --> 02:23:01,222
coordinator for Healthy Contra Costa. Um, and also a part of

1582
02:23:01,222 --> 02:23:05,893
Sierra. Um, and as others have said, we're only at the floor,

1583
02:23:05,893 --> 02:23:08,496
not the ceiling of what our county can do. These actions

1584
02:23:08,496 --> 02:23:12,233
currently be taken by our board are not the limit of the power

1585
02:23:12,233 --> 02:23:15,102
to protect our immigrant families and communities. We

1586
02:23:15,102 --> 02:23:17,772
are living through unprecedented times which

1587
02:23:17,772 --> 02:23:21,708
require brave leadership and action. Sheriff Livingston has

1588
02:23:21,708 --> 02:23:24,178
the authority to stop collaborating with us. And yet

1589
02:23:24,178 --> 02:23:27,515
his continued collaboration makes it clear that he is

1590
02:23:27,515 --> 02:23:30,917
choosing to protect some residents. Not all of us. Our

1591
02:23:30,917 --> 02:23:33,387
Board of Supervisors have the duty to use our county

1592
02:23:33,387 --> 02:23:37,792
resources to protect our community members, not enable

1593
02:23:37,792 --> 02:23:41,729
or advance harmful enforcement agenda against our immigrant

1594
02:23:41,729 --> 02:23:46,200
community members. Um, that is why we are demanding that our

1595
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:48,802
Board of Supervisors take immediate action to stop

1596
02:23:48,802 --> 02:23:52,406
responding to Ice notifications altogether, and to join the

1597
02:23:52,406 --> 02:23:56,677
rest of the Bay area in passing an ordinance in September. Um,

1598
02:23:56,677 --> 02:24:00,548
we should continue using our resources to improvise the

1599
02:24:00,548 --> 02:24:04,485
protections to our community members. You all have the power

1600
02:24:04,485 --> 02:24:08,880
to do more. Now is the time to use it. And cooperation with

1601
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:12,288
Ice and protect our community. Thank you.

1602
02:24:14,895 --> 02:24:18,432
Good morning. Welcome. Good morning. Mariano. Ensuring

1603
02:24:18,432 --> 02:24:21,501
opportunity also here as a member of the East County Rapid

1604
02:24:21,501 --> 02:24:26,500
Response Coalition and of Sierra, I decided I don't want

1605
02:24:26,500 --> 02:24:27,919
to speak in a lot of the technical points. I think

1606
02:24:27,919 --> 02:24:30,655
that's been handled very well. I really appreciate the

1607
02:24:30,655 --> 02:24:34,660
immigrant, um, legal. The lawyer, sorry, who spoke and

1608
02:24:34,660 --> 02:24:37,529
support every single word that she said, as well as Rich's

1609
02:24:37,529 --> 02:24:40,865
points for Sierra. Um, what I want to talk about is kind of

1610
02:24:40,865 --> 02:24:44,403
the bigger picture. I've come to this forum every year, and

1611
02:24:44,403 --> 02:24:48,140
this year I'm actually near tears because it is horrifying

1612
02:24:48,140 --> 02:24:50,875
what's happening in our country. So I'm just speaking

1613
02:24:50,875 --> 02:24:54,213
from my heart. Okay, there are folks that I know and care

1614
02:24:54,213 --> 02:24:57,883
about or afraid to go out of their house. You know, we talk

1615
02:24:57,883 --> 02:25:02,954
about lawlessness in this county. Ice is lawless. We need

1616
02:25:02,954 --> 02:25:08,693
to get it. Any cooperation with Ice? It's immoral and wrong. We

1617
02:25:08,693 --> 02:25:12,698
must stop it. It is so clear to me. I hope it's becoming clear

1618
02:25:12,698 --> 02:25:16,435
to you. This is not the society that I signed up for that I was

1619
02:25:16,435 --> 02:25:19,971
born into, that I have a lot of privilege in. So we have got to

1620
02:25:19,971 --> 02:25:24,843
work together. We have got to do this. You guys and the

1621
02:25:24,843 --> 02:25:27,712
lawlessness and the evil and the immorality and the

1622
02:25:27,712 --> 02:25:31,316
wrongness we all feel in our bones. I know you do too. We

1623
02:25:31,316 --> 02:25:36,716
must. We must end it unequivocally right now. Thank

1624
02:25:37,322 --> 02:25:39,322
you. Hello. Welcome.

1625
02:25:45,864 --> 02:25:50,803
Hi. So I didn't really come with anything prepared. Um.

1626
02:25:50,803 --> 02:25:57,342
What I wanted to express is that I got, um. I'm deeply

1627
02:25:57,342 --> 02:26:00,679
concerned for. For all of my neighbors, especially like

1628
02:26:00,679 --> 02:26:06,790
these in this current environment. Um, like, we we

1629
02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:10,289
see that currently, this is supposed to be only certain

1630
02:26:10,289 --> 02:26:14,426
felonies. And I'm concerned that there's there's a certain

1631
02:26:14,426 --> 02:26:17,963
amount of flexibility with the law. Right. We know that in the

1632
02:26:17,963 --> 02:26:21,232
state of California, the cannabis that many people enjoy

1633
02:26:21,232 --> 02:26:27,390
is felonious in certain other cities, the bodily autonomy and

1634
02:26:27,390 --> 02:26:30,575
access to public spaces that certain people have is

1635
02:26:30,575 --> 02:26:37,175
felonious. In other places. And so historically, the law is not

1636
02:26:38,250 --> 02:26:43,588
equally enforced on all people, especially people of color. And

1637
02:26:43,588 --> 02:26:48,593
so we need to keep that in mind when we talk about how, oh,

1638
02:26:48,593 --> 02:26:54,593
we're we're just doing this with, you know, certain laws.

1639
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:59,300
Um, it's also especially deeply concerning because the current

1640
02:26:59,300 --> 02:27:02,207
administration is actively changing the rules. They are

1641
02:27:02,207 --> 02:27:06,407
defining certain people as associated with domestic

1642
02:27:06,678 --> 02:27:10,215
terrorism, with the national Security Presidential

1643
02:27:10,215 --> 02:27:14,219
Memorandum seven. They're implying that certain people

1644
02:27:14,219 --> 02:27:18,623
are domestic terrorists. When logic and reason implies that

1645
02:27:18,623 --> 02:27:23,774
it's not. We also know that when we turn people over to Ice

1646
02:27:23,774 --> 02:27:27,911
custody, we know that we are depriving them of clean water,

1647
02:27:27,911 --> 02:27:32,711
adequate, nutritious food, stable shelter. Um, we are

1648
02:27:33,250 --> 02:27:37,450
potentially turning them over into permanent incarceration,

1649
02:27:37,588 --> 02:27:43,600
into torture prisons to do turn them over to Ice is to be

1650
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:48,460
complicit in all of this. You should consider that.

1651
02:27:49,266 --> 02:27:52,535
I'm going to interrupt you because we do we have any more?

1652
02:27:52,535 --> 02:27:55,939
Okay. I'm. You are the last. Oh, wait. It looks like there's

1653
02:27:55,939 --> 02:27:59,609
one other person that just stepped. Okay, so we have two.

1654
02:27:59,609 --> 02:28:03,809
Okay. All right. Go ahead. Good afternoon.

1655
02:28:03,880 --> 02:28:08,170
Once again. You know me, Linda Olvera, resident of Martinez

1656
02:28:08,170 --> 02:28:12,690
and, um, daughter of immigrant parents from Mexico. I always

1657
02:28:12,690 --> 02:28:19,362
like to say that, um. And you also know me as a person that

1658
02:28:19,362 --> 02:28:23,367
works almost on a daily basis with immigrants. And you also

1659
02:28:23,367 --> 02:28:26,103
know me as a person, because I've been here before to tell

1660
02:28:26,103 --> 02:28:33,243
you that I see and experience their fear, um, of even going

1661
02:28:33,243 --> 02:28:38,315
out of their house to go get groceries. Um, their children,

1662
02:28:38,315 --> 02:28:41,452
letting them go to school, not knowing if they're going to see

1663
02:28:41,452 --> 02:28:44,788
them again. I experience that fear. I don't think you guys

1664
02:28:44,788 --> 02:28:47,858
do, because you've been dragging this on and on and on.

1665
02:28:47,858 --> 02:28:50,460
And I'm talking about the ordinance. But I do want to say

1666
02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:55,666
a few words about the sheriff. Um, the sheriff likes to point

1667
02:28:55,666 --> 02:28:59,870
us to out as a small percentage of the.

1668
02:28:59,870 --> 02:29:02,739
Of the Contra Costa. County community, insinuating

1669
02:29:02,739 --> 02:29:05,609
that he is trying to protect the majority of Contra.

1670
02:29:05,609 --> 02:29:10,409
Costa County. Well. I'm not sure he understands

1671
02:29:11,215 --> 02:29:14,484
that there is a large percentage of immigrants that

1672
02:29:14,484 --> 02:29:17,688
live in Contra Costa County, that he is also obligated to

1673
02:29:17,688 --> 02:29:24,288
protect. My main message today is to stop Ice notification and

1674
02:29:25,295 --> 02:29:29,433
cooperation. And one other thing I wanted to mention was

1675
02:29:29,433 --> 02:29:33,770
that I'm not sure how much of you supervisors are aware of

1676
02:29:33,770 --> 02:29:37,641
how much money the sheriff gets from the federal government,

1677
02:29:37,641 --> 02:29:44,841
and we all know who runs the federal government. Do you know

1678
02:29:45,716 --> 02:29:49,386
how much federal money he gets from the federal government? If

1679
02:29:49,386 --> 02:29:54,258
you don't, I would suggest you try to find out. Um, and that

1680
02:29:54,258 --> 02:29:58,662
could that really be where the sheriff priorities are to get

1681
02:29:58,662 --> 02:30:03,000
more money, to be a bigger sheriff's department? Thank you.

1682
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:08,605
I one item I will say all our major departments receive

1683
02:30:08,605 --> 02:30:11,474
funding from the federal government. The largest is our

1684
02:30:11,474 --> 02:30:15,780
health department, which funds health services. So I just want

1685
02:30:15,780 --> 02:30:19,160
to say in context, all of our departments and big departments

1686
02:30:19,160 --> 02:30:22,152
get federal funding, whether it's health, social services,

1687
02:30:22,152 --> 02:30:25,422
criminal justice. So just just to put that in perspective, we

1688
02:30:25,422 --> 02:30:30,177
could not operate. So this department by far is the health

1689
02:30:30,177 --> 02:30:32,979
department. Significant billions. I do want

1690
02:30:32,979 --> 02:30:37,584
to I know that somebody just, um, brought another card up. So

1691
02:30:37,584 --> 02:30:42,789
please come up if you want to speak. Um, please come up now

1692
02:30:42,789 --> 02:30:46,593
because we do try to run our meetings smoothly and we will

1693
02:30:46,593 --> 02:30:50,731
be going on to online comments after this. Uh, these two

1694
02:30:50,731 --> 02:30:53,731
speakers. Good morning. Uh, Devin

1695
02:30:57,471 --> 02:31:01,710
Williams, Contra Costa resident. Um, felonies.

1696
02:31:01,875 --> 02:31:05,212
Immigrants, felonies again and again is what I heard. And that

1697
02:31:05,212 --> 02:31:10,417
was very xenophobic. You have to have you have to be a

1698
02:31:10,417 --> 02:31:14,688
soulless person to even have those words leave your mouth.

1699
02:31:14,688 --> 02:31:17,824
But I guess it's better to have your ideology out in the open

1700
02:31:17,824 --> 02:31:21,494
so that people know who you are. I feel like everything

1701
02:31:21,494 --> 02:31:25,966
that I say has to come off of my chest. Yes, you swore an

1702
02:31:25,966 --> 02:31:30,303
oath to protect residents in this county and undocumented

1703
02:31:30,303 --> 02:31:35,703
and immigrant families are contributing to our economy and.

1704
02:31:37,544 --> 02:31:42,382
I guess they aren't community. I mean, oath worthy to you? If

1705
02:31:42,382 --> 02:31:45,652
killing citizens isn't enough for someone to stop continuing

1706
02:31:45,652 --> 02:31:49,589
cooperation with Ice, where can residents find the data to

1707
02:31:49,589 --> 02:31:52,859
debate those comments about immigrants committing crimes

1708
02:31:52,859 --> 02:31:57,130
and felonies? Because last I heard, American citizens commit

1709
02:31:57,130 --> 02:32:01,535
horrible crimes more than our average undocumented residents.

1710
02:32:01,535 --> 02:32:04,604
Have you heard about school shootings, mass shootings in

1711
02:32:04,604 --> 02:32:09,800
this country? I don't think immigrants are doing those.

1712
02:32:09,800 --> 02:32:14,140
These are not normal times. Do you see the direction that this

1713
02:32:14,140 --> 02:32:18,214
country is going in authoritarianism? I'll never

1714
02:32:18,618 --> 02:32:21,320
understand. When people say they swore an oath. They love

1715
02:32:21,320 --> 02:32:25,425
America and they love the Constitution, but turn around

1716
02:32:25,425 --> 02:32:29,429
and completely do everything opposite of what it stands for.

1717
02:32:29,429 --> 02:32:32,832
I'll also contribute that same sentiment to the way that

1718
02:32:32,832 --> 02:32:36,103
people say they love Christ, and that stand against

1719
02:32:36,103 --> 02:32:40,707
everything he actually stood for. So please do some soul

1720
02:32:40,707 --> 02:32:46,107
searching and stop allowing this new Gestapo to go

1721
02:32:46,780 --> 02:32:50,584
unchecked and actually commit crimes. You obviously care

1722
02:32:50,584 --> 02:32:54,784
about injustice. Anywhere is injustice everywhere. Thank.

1723
02:33:03,596 --> 02:33:06,599
Welcome. Thank you. My name is Donna

1724
02:33:06,599 --> 02:33:11,337
Janki. I am a resident of Orinda. So I guess in district

1725
02:33:11,337 --> 02:33:18,144
one. Um, I have a question for, um, the, uh, everyone here,

1726
02:33:18,144 --> 02:33:22,148
particularly the sheriff. Um, and maybe I don't really

1727
02:33:22,148 --> 02:33:25,685
understand the process too much. This is only the second I

1728
02:33:25,685 --> 02:33:29,773
of of the truth act that I've been to, but, um, these

1729
02:33:29,773 --> 02:33:35,773
notifications of 12%, um, that ice is being alerted to, um,

1730
02:33:37,781 --> 02:33:42,652
then there's these release dates, um, where ice is

1731
02:33:42,652 --> 02:33:46,390
notified and that they have to be in these public places where

1732
02:33:46,390 --> 02:33:50,927
they could possibly intercept these people. Um, what happens

1733
02:33:50,927 --> 02:33:55,665
to, uh, to me? Doesn't that give contract, make Contra

1734
02:33:55,665 --> 02:34:02,265
Costa County complicit in, um, allowing Ice to cast a wider

1735
02:34:02,472 --> 02:34:08,878
net and scoop up more, um, innocent people without any due

1736
02:34:08,878 --> 02:34:14,170
process? Um, even as it's being defined as a minimal

1737
02:34:14,170 --> 02:34:18,488
cooperation, does that not only add to the atmosphere of fear

1738
02:34:18,488 --> 02:34:23,930
and distrust in our communities? Um, as a vigil or

1739
02:34:23,930 --> 02:34:27,764
at the Concord Immigration Court? Um, we see the trauma of

1740
02:34:27,764 --> 02:34:32,435
families and especially children every day, uh, walking

1741
02:34:32,435 --> 02:34:35,839
in and out of that building, not understanding what their

1742
02:34:35,839 --> 02:34:42,245
fate is going to be or what may be lurking around. Um, the, the

1743
02:34:42,245 --> 02:34:47,851
area there, um, in a public space. So with these things

1744
02:34:47,851 --> 02:34:53,122
happening and how how is how are we as a community able to

1745
02:34:53,122 --> 02:34:58,528
discern which law enforcement agency here is going to protect

1746
02:34:58,528 --> 02:35:04,000
public safety. or harm? So these are the kinds of some of

1747
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:06,736
the weeds that I think we really need to seriously

1748
02:35:06,736 --> 02:35:10,936
consider. Um, during these times. Thank you.

1749
02:35:11,274 --> 02:35:13,409
Thank you. We can now go.

1750
02:35:13,409 --> 02:35:17,881
To our zoom comments. The next speaker is Vanessa.

1751
02:35:17,881 --> 02:35:22,681
Please unmute. Hello, my name is Vanessa Chen,

1752
02:35:23,419 --> 02:35:26,490
and I'm a Concord resident and also a community organizer with

1753
02:35:26,490 --> 02:35:29,692
Monument Impact. After hearing the presentations that were

1754
02:35:29,692 --> 02:35:32,495
shared today, and as Ice presence has ramped up in our

1755
02:35:32,495 --> 02:35:35,365
communities, I urged the sheriff and county to end its

1756
02:35:35,365 --> 02:35:37,967
contract with FLoC. And for you all to pass a county

1757
02:35:37,967 --> 02:35:42,380
non-cooperation ordinance with the provision for contractors,

1758
02:35:42,380 --> 02:35:44,174
our local governments have turned towards data

1759
02:35:44,174 --> 02:35:48,440
surveillance at our county and our city levels. For example,

1760
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:51,480
in Concord. Within the last few weeks, my neighbors and I have

1761
02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:53,250
seen flock cameras appear through different parts of the

1762
02:35:53,250 --> 02:35:56,586
city, including the park and stop shopping center, down the

1763
02:35:56,586 --> 02:35:59,923
monument corridor and near Concord's Home Depot. This

1764
02:35:59,923 --> 02:36:02,925
increase of surveillance at our city and county levels does not

1765
02:36:02,925 --> 02:36:06,329
make our community feel safe. We know that Ice has previously

1766
02:36:06,329 --> 02:36:10,660
used Fox network and Data to specifically target immigrants.

1767
02:36:10,660 --> 02:36:12,668
It's your responsibility to listen to the concerns of your

1768
02:36:12,668 --> 02:36:16,206
constituents and to protect our county communities, including

1769
02:36:16,206 --> 02:36:19,609
our data and our privacy. And the sheriff contract with Fox

1770
02:36:19,609 --> 02:36:23,213
Safety. We've already seen Ice in Concord and in other parts

1771
02:36:23,213 --> 02:36:25,815
of the county since the Concord Federal Immigration court was

1772
02:36:25,815 --> 02:36:28,902
first opened, and we know that Ice presence will continue to

1773
02:36:28,902 --> 02:36:32,572
increase in our county since more than 120,000 backlogged

1774
02:36:32,572 --> 02:36:35,308
cases were transferred from San Francisco's Montgomery

1775
02:36:35,308 --> 02:36:39,460
Immigration Court to Concord, local groups and residents have

1776
02:36:39,460 --> 02:36:41,715
been advocating for a non cooperation ordinance with the

1777
02:36:41,715 --> 02:36:45,519
contractor provisioned for over a year. And we need action now.

1778
02:36:45,519 --> 02:36:48,922
So again, I ask that you end the flock safety contract to

1779
02:36:48,922 --> 02:36:51,191
pass a non-cooperation ordinance and to stop

1780
02:36:51,191 --> 02:36:55,391
responding to Ice notifications altogether. Thank you.

1781
02:36:56,797 --> 02:37:00,997
The next speaker is Deborah. Please unmute.

1782
02:37:03,536 --> 02:37:06,139
Good morning. My name is Deborah Boulanger. I'm a

1783
02:37:06,139 --> 02:37:08,608
resident of Concord, a member of the Concord Immigrant

1784
02:37:08,608 --> 02:37:11,879
Protection Network and one of the original founders of Sarah.

1785
02:37:11,879 --> 02:37:14,748
I have sat through all but one of the Past Truth forums, and

1786
02:37:14,748 --> 02:37:17,417
they are beginning to feel so pro forma in spite of the

1787
02:37:17,417 --> 02:37:20,754
wisdom of the immigrant rights attorneys like Mio today, who

1788
02:37:20,754 --> 02:37:24,625
have presented year after year. If the sheriff can ignore

1789
02:37:24,625 --> 02:37:28,280
nearly 90% of the requests from Ice, we ask that he completely

1790
02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:31,365
stop cooperating with Ice altogether, much like what's

1791
02:37:31,365 --> 02:37:34,634
being done in San Mateo. And just because the sheriff points

1792
02:37:34,634 --> 02:37:38,438
out counties that do cooperate with Ice doesn't mean he has

1793
02:37:38,438 --> 02:37:42,109
to. But his position has been clear from the get go. It's

1794
02:37:42,109 --> 02:37:45,709
completely unacceptable. Especially consider ISIS cruel

1795
02:37:46,447 --> 02:37:50,450
treatment of immigrants being detained without due process in

1796
02:37:50,450 --> 02:37:54,788
torturous detention facilities. And if the sheriff and members

1797
02:37:54,788 --> 02:37:57,991
of the board don't know anyone who has been detained, or who

1798
02:37:57,991 --> 02:38:02,128
have a loved one who's been been detained, it's time you

1799
02:38:02,128 --> 02:38:04,598
connect more deeply with what's happening in the immigrant

1800
02:38:04,598 --> 02:38:09,536
community. The 120,000 cases from the San Diego court being

1801
02:38:09,536 --> 02:38:11,938
transferred to Concord underscores the reality that

1802
02:38:11,938 --> 02:38:14,941
the presence of ice in Contra Costa is not only very much

1803
02:38:14,941 --> 02:38:17,811
here now, but their presence will only grow in the coming

1804
02:38:17,811 --> 02:38:21,810
year. Therefore, it's time to pass the non-cooperation

1805
02:38:21,810 --> 02:38:25,686
ordinance as it was originally written. It's also time for the

1806
02:38:25,686 --> 02:38:28,489
county to review its use of flock cameras and to end its

1807
02:38:28,489 --> 02:38:32,291
flock safety camera contract, just as other jurisdictions are

1808
02:38:32,291 --> 02:38:35,962
doing. And finally, I request that you terminate government

1809
02:38:35,962 --> 02:38:38,898
Cap funding. My understanding is that this board had to

1810
02:38:38,898 --> 02:38:42,301
approve that funding. If that is true, that does make the

1811
02:38:42,301 --> 02:38:47,101
board complicit in cooperating with Ice. Thank you.

1812
02:38:47,774 --> 02:38:51,974
The next speaker is Jenny. Please unmute.

1813
02:38:52,245 --> 02:38:54,848
Hello, I'm Jennifer. Morales, community organizing

1814
02:38:54,848 --> 02:38:57,117
manager for the Community engagement program at Monument

1815
02:38:57,117 --> 02:39:00,187
Impact, where we have offices in district three and four. And

1816
02:39:00,187 --> 02:39:02,589
we're also a member of the Concrete Immigrant Protections

1817
02:39:02,589 --> 02:39:06,325
Network, along with allies. Today, we're here calling for

1818
02:39:06,325 --> 02:39:09,796
the county, uh, Board of Supervisors to take additional

1819
02:39:09,796 --> 02:39:13,266
actions to stop practices. The harm our immigrant communities

1820
02:39:13,266 --> 02:39:15,869
and contribute to dangerous, uh, federal enforcement and

1821
02:39:15,869 --> 02:39:19,539
surveillance. Just this weekend, CIP and held a town

1822
02:39:19,539 --> 02:39:24,544
hall to include community members input to find what

1823
02:39:24,544 --> 02:39:27,632
folks want to see in an ordinance and specifically in

1824
02:39:27,632 --> 02:39:30,701
Concord and also our local cities here in Contra Costa

1825
02:39:30,701 --> 02:39:34,238
have done nothing, along with the Board of Supervisors, to

1826
02:39:34,238 --> 02:39:37,175
pass any type of protections. And some of the feedback we

1827
02:39:37,175 --> 02:39:41,311
heard was, why? Why does so much of our, like, tax money go

1828
02:39:41,311 --> 02:39:44,715
to fund, uh, PD and the sheriff's department all to

1829
02:39:44,715 --> 02:39:47,518
like if it came down to it, we knew they we know they would

1830
02:39:47,518 --> 02:39:51,389
protect ice instead of us. And so folks are still asking,

1831
02:39:51,389 --> 02:39:54,859
where is the Board of Supervisors or where are con or

1832
02:39:54,859 --> 02:39:57,795
sorry, our City Council is doing to protect our immigrant

1833
02:39:57,795 --> 02:40:00,197
community? Because so far, for the past two years, it's been

1834
02:40:00,197 --> 02:40:03,801
nothing. Last summer we saw a bunch of kidnappings happen at

1835
02:40:03,801 --> 02:40:06,204
the immigration court. At the summer I'm never going to

1836
02:40:06,204 --> 02:40:09,730
forget and that I have to carry. We've had members who've

1837
02:40:09,730 --> 02:40:12,760
had to self deport. We've had members who we actually have

1838
02:40:12,760 --> 02:40:14,411
asked us to go with them to their immigration court date,

1839
02:40:14,411 --> 02:40:18,282
because their fear of getting kidnapped. We've had a staging

1840
02:40:18,282 --> 02:40:21,419
happen right outside, outside of our offices as at Ellis

1841
02:40:21,419 --> 02:40:25,222
Lake. This is information we've all shared. And so again, for

1842
02:40:25,222 --> 02:40:28,359
the like eighth year in a row, we're asking you to stop

1843
02:40:28,359 --> 02:40:31,228
responding to Ice notifications altogether. Join the rest of

1844
02:40:31,228 --> 02:40:35,166
the pain. Passing an ordinance and the county's flock safety

1845
02:40:35,166 --> 02:40:38,302
contract and terminate all efforts to receive Scap funding

1846
02:40:38,302 --> 02:40:41,302
for incarcerating immigrants. Thank you.

1847
02:40:42,172 --> 02:40:46,372
The next speaker is Tony. Please unmute.

1848
02:40:47,779 --> 02:40:51,315
Hi. Good morning. My name is Tony, executive director with

1849
02:40:51,315 --> 02:40:56,453
United Latino Voices. Billions of dollars are already invested

1850
02:40:56,453 --> 02:41:00,391
into an agency going on a reign of terror across the country.

1851
02:41:00,391 --> 02:41:03,728
Contra Costa is not the exception or safe from this,

1852
02:41:03,728 --> 02:41:07,640
especially with the immigration court here in Concord. Our

1853
02:41:07,640 --> 02:41:11,680
county does not need to provide more resources or support, uh,

1854
02:41:11,680 --> 02:41:14,339
for us to do enforcement. And that means that the county

1855
02:41:14,339 --> 02:41:17,941
sheriff's department should not be entertaining notifications

1856
02:41:17,941 --> 02:41:22,947
and should stop responding to these immediately. It is very

1857
02:41:22,947 --> 02:41:26,551
clear that the Sheriff's Department does not know how to

1858
02:41:26,551 --> 02:41:30,754
interpret the law when it comes to notifications. Uh, listening

1859
02:41:30,754 --> 02:41:35,493
to the ilk attorney, uh, that it has become very obvious that

1860
02:41:35,493 --> 02:41:38,950
internally the sheriff's department just doesn't know

1861
02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:43,701
how to assess cases and, um, needs to do better. Uh, again,

1862
02:41:43,701 --> 02:41:47,704
we should not be helping Ice, and that means we do not need

1863
02:41:47,704 --> 02:41:53,704
to be investing our county resources into a company like

1864
02:41:53,978 --> 02:41:58,983
FLoC, a system that will always profit, will always put profits

1865
02:41:58,983 --> 02:42:05,583
over people. Uh, and has always and will continue to provide

1866
02:42:06,523 --> 02:42:12,663
data to agencies like Ice. And so, again, billions of dollars

1867
02:42:12,663 --> 02:42:17,670
already going into an agency. Our resources here at the local

1868
02:42:17,670 --> 02:42:21,472
level, we don't need to keep giving that to them. Uh, we

1869
02:42:21,472 --> 02:42:25,143
should be instead investing all of that money to our community

1870
02:42:25,143 --> 02:42:29,343
and the community needs here. Thank you.

1871
02:42:32,360 --> 02:42:36,236
The next speaker is Sonia. Please unmute.

1872
02:42:44,180 --> 02:42:49,580
Sonia, please unmute. Hello, this is Sonia. Can you

1873
02:42:52,322 --> 02:42:54,391
hear me? Yes we can.

1874
02:42:54,391 --> 02:42:59,196
Okay. Thank you. I was just on a phone call, um, at the court

1875
02:42:59,196 --> 02:43:04,401
about the court. Um, so I want to thank the supervisor. Say

1876
02:43:04,401 --> 02:43:07,471
good morning to everyone and the sheriff. Thank you for the

1877
02:43:07,471 --> 02:43:11,475
report. Uh, my name is Sonia Bustamante. With Safe Center,

1878
02:43:11,475 --> 02:43:16,747
and I echo with our colleagues at um, ilk presented and the

1879
02:43:16,747 --> 02:43:20,484
concerns they raised. You know, we're reporting to you from the

1880
02:43:20,484 --> 02:43:23,953
ground, from the communities that we are serving, from our

1881
02:43:23,953 --> 02:43:27,230
clients who have shared stories with us. And, you know, they're

1882
02:43:27,230 --> 02:43:30,761
also victims of crimes. And it's their voices we're

1883
02:43:30,761 --> 02:43:35,298
bringing you today. Um, and also the expertise, right, from

1884
02:43:35,298 --> 02:43:39,236
our immigration lawyers who know the law checked the

1885
02:43:39,236 --> 02:43:41,839
changing landscape of the current laws and how they're

1886
02:43:41,839 --> 02:43:46,243
being interpreted. And that's part of the context here for

1887
02:43:46,243 --> 02:43:50,580
today's forum. And we're also a part of Countrywide Networks.

1888
02:43:50,580 --> 02:43:53,784
We're experiencing in real time the way that Ice is

1889
02:43:53,784 --> 02:43:57,588
weaponizing, you know, contracts that otherwise would

1890
02:43:57,588 --> 02:44:01,658
have been with contractors that seemed benign, like FLoC. And

1891
02:44:01,658 --> 02:44:05,610
there's been violations of information privacy rights. You

1892
02:44:05,610 --> 02:44:08,732
know, we're concerned about this gap program. Also. Um, so

1893
02:44:08,732 --> 02:44:11,670
we would like to hear from the sheriff as to why we are

1894
02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:15,738
participating in that program. And our counterparts across the

1895
02:44:15,738 --> 02:44:18,542
country are giving us advice and warning us that their local

1896
02:44:18,542 --> 02:44:22,145
governments, including their local law enforcement, are

1897
02:44:22,145 --> 02:44:25,349
feeling like they're put back on their heels due to ice

1898
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:30,149
exploiting and weaponizing programs and contracts that may

1899
02:44:30,420 --> 02:44:34,624
have not been exploited like they are now, but they're using

1900
02:44:34,624 --> 02:44:38,361
it to incite violence and fear. And so we're saying, let's

1901
02:44:38,361 --> 02:44:41,631
scrutinize all of these areas of potential vulnerability.

1902
02:44:41,631 --> 02:44:47,503
Let's be proactive and public trust is super essential right

1903
02:44:47,503 --> 02:44:52,303
now. Thank you. The next speaker is Pittsburgh

1904
02:44:52,375 --> 02:44:55,975
Citizen. Please unmute. Pittsburgh Citizen, please

1905
02:45:04,187 --> 02:45:09,587
unmute. We can go on to the next member.

1906
02:45:18,535 --> 02:45:22,735
The next speaker is Nieva. Please unmute.

1907
02:45:24,340 --> 02:45:28,279
Supervisors. My name is Nieva. I work in Concord, and I'm also

1908
02:45:28,279 --> 02:45:31,448
a volunteer with the Concord Immigrant Protection Network. I

1909
02:45:31,448 --> 02:45:34,552
would like to echo several of the statements made today, and

1910
02:45:34,552 --> 02:45:36,820
reinforce that the county of Contra Costa should stop

1911
02:45:36,820 --> 02:45:40,900
responding to Ice altogether and ensure private data is

1912
02:45:40,900 --> 02:45:43,930
never shared with federal agencies. As previously

1913
02:45:43,930 --> 02:45:46,363
mentioned, passing a strong non-cooperation ordinance that

1914
02:45:46,363 --> 02:45:49,633
closes contractor loopholes and is enforceable would help

1915
02:45:49,633 --> 02:45:52,636
accomplish these critical needs. I also call for the

1916
02:45:52,636 --> 02:45:55,705
county to break its contract with flock immediately. We've

1917
02:45:55,705 --> 02:45:58,420
seen nationwide that surveillance data collected by

1918
02:45:58,420 --> 02:46:02,379
flock can easily be abused, but in county funds toward these

1919
02:46:02,379 --> 02:46:05,249
surveillance systems takes away necessary funds for public

1920
02:46:05,249 --> 02:46:09,186
services and places vulnerable, vulnerable communities at risk.

1921
02:46:09,186 --> 02:46:13,524
Given that communities cannot ensure the security of data

1922
02:46:13,524 --> 02:46:17,661
collected by these surveillance cameras, public resources

1923
02:46:17,661 --> 02:46:20,131
should be used to foster safe and healthy communities for

1924
02:46:20,131 --> 02:46:23,934
families, and everyone can feel safe accessing public resources

1925
02:46:23,934 --> 02:46:27,400
and going to school or work. Safety doesn't come from hyper

1926
02:46:27,400 --> 02:46:29,740
surveillance. It starts with elected representatives who

1927
02:46:29,740 --> 02:46:31,942
will speak up for their community when it is needed

1928
02:46:31,942 --> 02:46:35,120
most. Right now, families in Contra Costa are living in

1929
02:46:35,120 --> 02:46:38,140
constant terror and concord. We've heard this directly from

1930
02:46:38,140 --> 02:46:41,180
families who are terrified that they will be torn apart. This

1931
02:46:41,180 --> 02:46:43,954
reality has profound impacts on the mental health of children.

1932
02:46:43,954 --> 02:46:47,358
Growing up in Contra Costa and their parents. How you choose

1933
02:46:47,358 --> 02:46:50,828
to act in this moment will be remembered. If you can continue

1934
02:46:50,828 --> 02:46:53,631
to enable the spread of terror and fear by a lawless

1935
02:46:53,631 --> 02:46:56,367
organization that is kidnapping community members, your

1936
02:46:56,367 --> 02:46:59,236
constituent constituents in this entire community will not

1937
02:46:59,236 --> 02:47:02,506
forget it. I urge you to take immediate action to protect

1938
02:47:02,506 --> 02:47:05,709
immigrant community members and families that call Contra Costa

1939
02:47:05,709 --> 02:47:10,509
home. Thank you. The next speaker is ovata.

1940
02:47:11,248 --> 02:47:13,248
Please unmute. Hi.

1941
02:47:15,185 --> 02:47:16,853
This is. Hoby Mendoza. I'm with

1942
02:47:16,853 --> 02:47:19,656
Brentwood City Council. We have already instructed our police

1943
02:47:19,656 --> 02:47:22,325
department to no longer participate with anything that

1944
02:47:22,325 --> 02:47:25,796
has to do with Ice. Our people come first. My request is that

1945
02:47:25,796 --> 02:47:29,333
the county police stop cooperating and notifying Ice.

1946
02:47:29,333 --> 02:47:33,804
I'm also asking for an SB 54 audit, where you go through

1947
02:47:33,804 --> 02:47:36,874
every single instance and release that to the public. Let

1948
02:47:36,874 --> 02:47:40,811
every single victim be able to take action as they please. We

1949
02:47:40,811 --> 02:47:44,347
do not. You should not be allowing any federal Ice agents

1950
02:47:44,347 --> 02:47:48,419
on any county property. I would also like an audit of of

1951
02:47:48,419 --> 02:47:52,823
Livingston's expenses. Um, with general ledger entries and the

1952
02:47:52,823 --> 02:47:55,759
purpose of those entries. You hold the purse strings. If he

1953
02:47:55,759 --> 02:47:59,563
is doing something, it is under your financial watch. Um, I

1954
02:47:59,563 --> 02:48:03,634
also urge every single voter in Contra Costa to look at who

1955
02:48:03,634 --> 02:48:08,505
endorsed Livingston. He came up here today and said that even

1956
02:48:08,505 --> 02:48:11,174
if the Board of Supervisors set tells him not to do something,

1957
02:48:11,174 --> 02:48:14,111
he's going to do what he wants. When it comes to ice. Diane

1958
02:48:14,111 --> 02:48:17,648
Berg has endorsed Livingston. He is on. She is on his

1959
02:48:17,648 --> 02:48:20,851
website. So elections matter. So while we're here talking

1960
02:48:20,851 --> 02:48:23,520
about what we can do now, the most important thing that

1961
02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:27,461
anyone out there can do is look at who you're voting for and

1962
02:48:27,461 --> 02:48:30,464
who is supporting them and who is not supporting them. So

1963
02:48:30,464 --> 02:48:33,868
lastly, I would like to also the county to put a ban on any

1964
02:48:33,868 --> 02:48:37,138
detention centers in the county. And while we're at it,

1965
02:48:37,138 --> 02:48:41,341
please bring forward an agenda item to ban any data centers

1966
02:48:41,341 --> 02:48:47,147
in, um, in the county as well. Thank you very much.

1967
02:48:47,147 --> 02:48:51,347
The next speaker is Luis. Then you.

1968
02:48:55,556 --> 02:48:58,556
Liz, please unmute. Are you.

1969
02:48:59,293 --> 02:49:01,762
Able to hear me? Yes we are, thank you.

1970
02:49:01,762 --> 02:49:02,496
Hi. My name.

1971
02:49:02,496 --> 02:49:04,364
Is Liz Richie. I am a resident.

1972
02:49:04,364 --> 02:49:06,100
And longtime. Resident of Contra.

1973
02:49:06,100 --> 02:49:07,635
Costa County. A naturalized.

1974
02:49:07,635 --> 02:49:11,972
Citizen, and I would like to say that immigration laws exist

1975
02:49:11,972 --> 02:49:13,707
for a reason. They are here.

1976
02:49:13,707 --> 02:49:14,909
To. Protect the safety.

1977
02:49:14,909 --> 02:49:18,178
Security and sovereignty. Of the. United States.

1978
02:49:18,178 --> 02:49:20,781
U.S. Immigration. And Customs Enforcement, or

1979
02:49:20,781 --> 02:49:22,249
Ice. Is the.

1980
02:49:22,249 --> 02:49:24,251
Agency charged with. Enforcing these.

1981
02:49:24,251 --> 02:49:26,853
Laws inside. Our country, supporting.

1982
02:49:26,853 --> 02:49:29,123
Ice enforcement is not about politics.

1983
02:49:29,123 --> 02:49:31,124
It's about upholding. The rule.

1984
02:49:31,124 --> 02:49:35,128
Of law and keeping American. communities safe. Every nation

1985
02:49:35,128 --> 02:49:37,798
has the right and. responsibility to decide who

1986
02:49:37,798 --> 02:49:41,335
may enter and remain. within its borders. When individuals

1987
02:49:41,335 --> 02:49:41,935
ignore. These.

1988
02:49:41,935 --> 02:49:45,606
Rules, ICE's enforcement and Removal Operation officers

1989
02:49:45,606 --> 02:49:49,409
identify, arrest, and detain and remove people who are

1990
02:49:49,409 --> 02:49:53,747
unlawfully present or who have final orders of removal.

1991
02:49:53,747 --> 02:49:57,484
Priority is given to those who pose threats to public safety.

1992
02:49:57,484 --> 02:50:01,840
Individuals with criminal convictions pending charges,

1993
02:50:01,755 --> 02:50:05,826
gang affiliations or national security concerns. Removing

1994
02:50:05,826 --> 02:50:08,962
people who have committed serious crimes such as assault,

1995
02:50:08,962 --> 02:50:12,499
sexual offenses, drug trafficking, or homicide

1996
02:50:12,499 --> 02:50:16,436
directly reduces risk to law abiding residents. Enforcement

1997
02:50:16,436 --> 02:50:20,107
also protects the integrity of our legal immigration system.

1998
02:50:20,107 --> 02:50:23,711
Millions of people around the world wait years, follow the

1999
02:50:23,711 --> 02:50:27,180
rules, and invest significant effort to come here lawfully,

2000
02:50:27,180 --> 02:50:30,384
allowing widespread unlawful presence undermines their

2001
02:50:30,384 --> 02:50:34,254
sacrifices and erodes public confidence in the system.

2002
02:50:34,254 --> 02:50:38,454
Strong interior enforcement deters future illegal entries,

2003
02:50:38,525 --> 02:50:42,128
reduces the burden on local communities and taxpayers, and

2004
02:50:42,128 --> 02:50:45,265
ensures that limited resources for housing, schools and health

2005
02:50:45,265 --> 02:50:49,403
care are not overwhelmed. Ice officers operate under the

2006
02:50:49,403 --> 02:50:53,140
authority of statutes passed by Congress. They work with

2007
02:50:53,140 --> 02:50:56,900
federal, state, and local partners, serve detainers on

2008
02:50:56,900 --> 02:50:59,813
individuals already in criminal custody, and carry out court

2009
02:50:59,813 --> 02:51:02,813
ordered removals supporting their mission.

2010
02:51:05,485 --> 02:51:09,685
The next speaker is Craig. Please unmute.

2011
02:51:12,292 --> 02:51:16,497
Uh, yes. Thank you. Greg. Already from Martinez. I think

2012
02:51:16,497 --> 02:51:19,833
a lot of us, uh, you know, have conflicted views on this issue

2013
02:51:19,833 --> 02:51:24,571
because I like most of the speakers, agree that Ice, as is

2014
02:51:24,571 --> 02:51:27,780
currently configured as a lawless, unethical, corrupt

2015
02:51:27,780 --> 02:51:33,180
organization that probably should be abolished, um, and so

2016
02:51:33,251 --> 02:51:36,322
cooperating with them does not serve the interests of our

2017
02:51:36,322 --> 02:51:40,259
community. However, you know, I think what the sheriff says is

2018
02:51:40,259 --> 02:51:43,395
a point well-taken that when you do have people who commit

2019
02:51:43,395 --> 02:51:48,267
crime after crime after crime, and are not here legally and

2020
02:51:48,267 --> 02:51:52,710
not obeying our laws, that does pose a public safety concern

2021
02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:56,609
and public safety threat. And it would be nice if we could,

2022
02:51:56,609 --> 02:52:00,612
uh, address those issues and protect both the immigrant

2023
02:52:00,612 --> 02:52:04,150
community and non immigrants and citizens and non-citizens

2024
02:52:04,150 --> 02:52:08,353
from people who are dangerous along those lines, um, we had a

2025
02:52:08,353 --> 02:52:11,556
tragic situation in my hometown a couple of weeks ago where

2026
02:52:11,556 --> 02:52:15,427
someone who happened to be undocumented, uh, stabbed one

2027
02:52:15,427 --> 02:52:18,564
of our residents to death and outside his home on the

2028
02:52:18,564 --> 02:52:22,501
sidewalk. And, of course, uh, right wing media has latched

2029
02:52:22,501 --> 02:52:25,904
onto that and made this an issue about immigration policy.

2030
02:52:25,904 --> 02:52:29,108
But in this case, it really as far as I can tell, it's not an

2031
02:52:29,108 --> 02:52:32,978
issue about public about immigration policy. The issue

2032
02:52:32,978 --> 02:52:38,584
here is about general policy in terms of our criminal justice

2033
02:52:38,584 --> 02:52:42,922
system, where someone is arrested on a burglary charge,

2034
02:52:42,922 --> 02:52:48,322
released, uh, pretrial, is given an ankle monitor, uh,

2035
02:52:48,461 --> 02:52:52,798
home detention violates that ankle monitor. Roll is brought

2036
02:52:52,798 --> 02:52:56,680
back to the jail, has the ankle monitor taken off and is sent

2037
02:52:56,680 --> 02:52:58,737
home from jail without an ankle monitor. Told to come back in

2038
02:52:58,737 --> 02:53:02,800
two days by the sheriff's office. And today, where he

2039
02:53:02,800 --> 02:53:04,877
does not have an ankle monitor on. He steps one of our

2040
02:53:04,877 --> 02:53:07,790
residents. And I've been trying for two weeks to get some

2041
02:53:07,790 --> 02:53:10,148
explanation to how something like that could happen. That's

2042
02:53:10,148 --> 02:53:15,548
not about ice. That's about common sense. Thank you.

2043
02:53:15,620 --> 02:53:20,420
The next speaker is Mary Fair. Please unmute.

2044
02:53:20,559 --> 02:53:24,163
Hi. Can you hear me? Yes, we can.

2045
02:53:24,163 --> 02:53:28,963
Hello. Um, today I'm here representing Monument Impact

2046
02:53:29,340 --> 02:53:33,305
East, Contra Costa rapid Response Coalition. And as an

2047
02:53:33,305 --> 02:53:38,710
undocumented immigrant myself, uh, I grew up in Contra Costa

2048
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:42,480
County, uh, predominantly in Concord and now living in Bay

2049
02:53:42,480 --> 02:53:45,317
point. I grew up seeing my friends and neighbors be

2050
02:53:45,317 --> 02:53:49,255
impacted by the county's key role during the Bush and Obama

2051
02:53:49,255 --> 02:53:53,325
era deportations. It is so shameful to hear that we have

2052
02:53:53,325 --> 02:53:58,597
not come very far after 20 years. Um, and to hear that our

2053
02:53:58,597 --> 02:54:01,467
county sheriff is co-signing a potential breach of our

2054
02:54:01,467 --> 02:54:05,471
constitutional rights that apply to all of us, no matter

2055
02:54:05,471 --> 02:54:10,209
our immigration status, especially due process. Um, all

2056
02:54:10,209 --> 02:54:13,345
I have heard today is that our sheriff is unable to protect

2057
02:54:13,345 --> 02:54:16,549
residents across the county because of their. Because of

2058
02:54:16,549 --> 02:54:19,151
his own individual beliefs, rather than the health and

2059
02:54:19,151 --> 02:54:23,556
safety of our whole community. I do appreciate Supervisor

2060
02:54:23,556 --> 02:54:26,892
Scales Preston asking a great question, and the answer was

2061
02:54:26,892 --> 02:54:31,636
very clear. It is not illegal to not respond to Ice requests,

2062
02:54:31,636 --> 02:54:34,706
so it is clear that it is a self-interest based decision

2063
02:54:34,706 --> 02:54:38,310
from Sheriff Livingston. It is shameful that local organizers

2064
02:54:38,310 --> 02:54:41,313
are carrying the brunt of the work to protect the community,

2065
02:54:41,313 --> 02:54:44,583
with little to almost no support from the county to

2066
02:54:44,583 --> 02:54:48,253
prevent further harm and trauma. This is a mental health

2067
02:54:48,253 --> 02:54:51,657
issue. This is a foster care issue. This is a community

2068
02:54:51,657 --> 02:54:56,261
safety issue. We must take lead from places like Santa Clara

2069
02:54:56,261 --> 02:54:59,131
County and make sure to stop responding to Ice requests

2070
02:54:59,131 --> 02:55:02,200
altogether. Stop asking for immigration status and

2071
02:55:02,200 --> 02:55:05,671
paperwork and booking. We don't have to track that in the first

2072
02:55:05,671 --> 02:55:08,940
place. Uh, ban ice from using county buildings for any

2073
02:55:08,940 --> 02:55:12,544
operations. Um, they should not be using any of our county

2074
02:55:12,544 --> 02:55:16,548
buildings that are supposed to be safe and sanctuary. Um, you

2075
02:55:16,548 --> 02:55:19,417
we need to unite the bay and make sure we are passing a

2076
02:55:19,417 --> 02:55:24,217
strong county ordinance to end all Ice cooperation.

2077
02:55:24,689 --> 02:55:28,889
The next speaker is Daniel. Please unmute.

2078
02:55:30,270 --> 02:55:32,630
Uh, good morning, board and good morning, community. Uh,

2079
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:36,834
this is Daniel Romer. I am a 30 year resident of the county and

2080
02:55:36,834 --> 02:55:40,380
an immigration attorney. I spoke last to the board, and I

2081
02:55:40,380 --> 02:55:43,909
explained how, um, the immigration system over the

2082
02:55:43,909 --> 02:55:47,312
past, you know, 35 years has been broken and become more

2083
02:55:47,312 --> 02:55:50,248
broken. And it is the goal of this administration to

2084
02:55:50,248 --> 02:55:54,585
completely deconstruct this system so that more and more

2085
02:55:54,585 --> 02:55:57,789
immigrants are illegal and that they can deport them and get

2086
02:55:57,789 --> 02:56:01,459
their deportation numbers. Um, so we kind of toggle back and

2087
02:56:01,459 --> 02:56:05,997
forth between this kind of, uh, you know, um, idea that we have

2088
02:56:05,997 --> 02:56:08,599
a rule of law and people should follow the rules. And then

2089
02:56:08,599 --> 02:56:11,136
what's going on in the streets, including in our monument

2090
02:56:11,136 --> 02:56:15,807
border, um, of this reign of terror. Um, and so the sheriff

2091
02:56:15,807 --> 02:56:19,770
and others, to be sure, when people call out that terror,

2092
02:56:19,770 --> 02:56:22,414
they say, oh, well, those are, um, that's a fringe element.

2093
02:56:22,414 --> 02:56:25,830
Those are those are the loonies on the left doing that. But I'd

2094
02:56:25,830 --> 02:56:28,686
like to share with you what, um, the conservative icon,

2095
02:56:28,686 --> 02:56:32,824
Jonathan last published last month in his Substack. He said

2096
02:56:32,824 --> 02:56:36,361
this in America, we have become inured to incidents in which

2097
02:56:36,361 --> 02:56:39,898
law enforcement kills civilians. The idea that local

2098
02:56:39,898 --> 02:56:43,350
law enforcement officials can use deadly force at the drop of

2099
02:56:43,350 --> 02:56:46,571
a hat is accepted by the general public, but what the

2100
02:56:46,571 --> 02:56:48,906
federal government has been doing to people assumed to be

2101
02:56:48,906 --> 02:56:52,510
immigrants is different from normal brutality. It is a

2102
02:56:52,510 --> 02:56:55,914
targeted campaign we are witnessing for the first time

2103
02:56:55,914 --> 02:57:00,118
since Jim Crow American death squads. So again, this is a

2104
02:57:00,118 --> 02:57:03,721
Republican Party member, a long time conservative icon.

2105
02:57:03,721 --> 02:57:06,924
Jonathan Last, who writes for the Wall Street Journal and the

2106
02:57:06,924 --> 02:57:10,928
National Review. Uh, so I don't think it's outlandish to call

2107
02:57:10,928 --> 02:57:14,733
what's going on, uh, what it is, which is terror on its

2108
02:57:14,733 --> 02:57:18,669
face. Um, I guess what I'd like to share with you is I recently

2109
02:57:18,669 --> 02:57:20,806
went on a bike ride with a group of people that I ride

2110
02:57:20,806 --> 02:57:24,342
with, and one of the men got up. He said he was a black.

2111
02:57:24,342 --> 02:57:26,544
He's a black man. And he said, you know, these are dangerous

2112
02:57:26,544 --> 02:57:30,757
times that we live in, and we all have to do what we can to

2113
02:57:30,757 --> 02:57:33,225
to stand up and speak up the truth and try to get things

2114
02:57:33,225 --> 02:57:35,962
better. And he said, you know, I'm a black man, so I know I

2115
02:57:35,962 --> 02:57:38,498
have a target on my back for that reason. But he says I have

2116
02:57:38,498 --> 02:57:42,502
some leverage. I'm a man I can use..

2117
02:57:42,502 --> 02:57:46,702
The next speaker is Joanna. Please unmute.

2118
02:57:50,243 --> 02:57:55,382
Hello? Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Um. Good morning.

2119
02:57:55,382 --> 02:57:56,850
Uh. Supervisors, my.

2120
02:57:56,850 --> 02:57:59,185
Name is Joanna. I'm here with presenting

2121
02:57:59,185 --> 02:58:03,255
healthy Contra Costa. And again, I just want to say that

2122
02:58:03,255 --> 02:58:06,592
I echo and support the comments made by some of my, some of the

2123
02:58:06,592 --> 02:58:09,795
previous speakers. I think now more than ever is a time where

2124
02:58:09,795 --> 02:58:13,667
we need to come together and truly support and protect our

2125
02:58:13,667 --> 02:58:17,300
immigrant community members. Um, let's not forget that a lot

2126
02:58:17,300 --> 02:58:19,271
of the acts of terror done in this country have actually been

2127
02:58:19,271 --> 02:58:22,675
done by people that were not holding foreign passports, that

2128
02:58:22,675 --> 02:58:26,146
were actually born in the oil. I fear for my safety as an

2129
02:58:26,146 --> 02:58:28,948
American citizen when I go to the movie theaters, when I go

2130
02:58:28,948 --> 02:58:31,817
to the mall, when I go into churches, stores, there's

2131
02:58:31,817 --> 02:58:35,354
literally no place that is safe in this country for people to

2132
02:58:35,354 --> 02:58:38,691
go and to visit without the fear of gun violence being

2133
02:58:38,691 --> 02:58:41,761
present. That usually happens at the hands of an American

2134
02:58:41,761 --> 02:58:44,564
citizen. So again, if you want to talk about crime, let's look

2135
02:58:44,564 --> 02:58:48,968
at the data that supports that. Um, undocumented folks are way,

2136
02:58:48,968 --> 02:58:52,371
way, way less likely to commit violent crimes. And American

2137
02:58:52,371 --> 02:58:55,442
born citizens. Again, if this is truly about safety, let's

2138
02:58:55,442 --> 02:58:59,512
make sure that we're supporting the programs. Um, the the

2139
02:58:59,512 --> 02:59:01,914
initiatives that support people's livelihoods so that

2140
02:59:01,914 --> 02:59:04,784
they don't have to turn to crime. Um, so they don't have

2141
02:59:04,784 --> 02:59:08,254
to go and, you know, abuse substances or do whatever it is

2142
02:59:08,254 --> 02:59:10,523
that they do to cope with the realities of living in this

2143
02:59:10,523 --> 02:59:14,600
country. Um, again, I think now more than ever, we really need

2144
02:59:14,600 --> 02:59:18,131
to assess what is going on in our country. Um, by cutting

2145
02:59:18,131 --> 02:59:23,736
ties with vendors like FLoC that will actively, um, provide

2146
02:59:23,736 --> 02:59:27,807
data, um, to Ice and to the federal government violating

2147
02:59:27,807 --> 02:59:30,543
sometimes contracts that they have with existing cities,

2148
02:59:30,543 --> 02:59:34,680
municipalities. So again, I urge you all to really support

2149
02:59:34,680 --> 02:59:38,517
a non-cooperation ordinance so that these loopholes cannot

2150
02:59:38,517 --> 02:59:42,355
continue to exist in our county policy so that we can actually

2151
02:59:42,355 --> 02:59:44,423
ensure that not just undocumented people are safe,

2152
02:59:44,423 --> 02:59:48,228
but everyone is safe from, um, you know, the terror that is

2153
02:59:48,228 --> 02:59:53,280
currently going on and this administration. Thank you.

2154
02:59:53,365 --> 02:59:56,965
Speaker. Is Pittsburgh Citizen. Please unmute.

2155
02:59:58,238 --> 03:00:00,507
Hello. I'd like to join in.

2156
03:00:00,507 --> 03:00:04,577
The call. asking you to pass. , uh, ice non-cooperation.

2157
03:00:04,577 --> 03:00:06,246
Ordinance. Along with.

2158
03:00:06,246 --> 03:00:07,447
The rest of the. Bay area.

2159
03:00:07,447 --> 03:00:09,447
It's long. Overdue.

2160
03:00:09,449 --> 03:00:11,984
Um. Also asking to end.

2161
03:00:11,984 --> 03:00:13,720
All flock. Contracts within.

2162
03:00:13,720 --> 03:00:16,723
The county. Uh, the sheriff has long shown

2163
03:00:16,723 --> 03:00:20,660
that he does not care what the community wants, what the

2164
03:00:20,660 --> 03:00:24,630
community needs, and your community. needs you to step up

2165
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:28,810
and join the rest of the bay and end all Ice cooperation.

2166
03:00:28,810 --> 03:00:31,780
Thank you. There are no more public

2167
03:00:31,780 --> 03:00:35,278
comments. All right. Thank you. I'm going

2168
03:00:37,170 --> 03:00:40,621
to start down here with Supervisor Scales Preston, and

2169
03:00:40,621 --> 03:00:42,957
then I'll work my way down. Or did you want to go first?

2170
03:00:42,957 --> 03:00:44,625
Because I. Know I just had questions. I

2171
03:00:44,625 --> 03:00:46,893
wasn't going to make comments and just some follow up

2172
03:00:46,893 --> 03:00:50,831
questions. Okay. Go ahead sir. Um, to the sheriff. Are you

2173
03:00:50,831 --> 03:00:54,234
sharing any of your facilities or office space with Ice? This

2174
03:00:54,234 --> 03:00:56,970
was brought up by several people that some there's some

2175
03:00:56,970 --> 03:00:59,970
level of cooperation. No, none.

2176
03:00:59,974 --> 03:01:04,440
Okay. And you're not aware of any other county facilities

2177
03:01:04,440 --> 03:01:08,515
that Ice is utilizing? Okay. Just wanted to make. Okay. The

2178
03:01:08,515 --> 03:01:13,315
stop, um, reimbursement issue. What information is provided?

2179
03:01:13,453 --> 03:01:15,723
You started your remarks earlier today or you stated

2180
03:01:15,723 --> 03:01:20,194
your remarks earlier today that typically Ice is notified that

2181
03:01:20,194 --> 03:01:22,863
we have someone who is incarcerated in one of our

2182
03:01:22,863 --> 03:01:26,467
jails based upon the DOJ database. They're fingerprinted

2183
03:01:26,467 --> 03:01:30,471
when they are arrested and are presented at our jail. Is a lot

2184
03:01:30,471 --> 03:01:33,600
of additional information provided when we seek

2185
03:01:33,600 --> 03:01:36,210
reimbursement, which is a long standing program to reimburse

2186
03:01:36,210 --> 03:01:39,613
us for the expense of housing. People who have beenonvicted

2187
03:01:39,613 --> 03:01:43,284
of a crime in our facilities. There's not a lot of additional

2188
03:01:43,284 --> 03:01:47,621
information. We, like most agencies, do this pro forma.

2189
03:01:47,621 --> 03:01:50,825
It's actually administrative task to go through the course

2190
03:01:50,825 --> 03:01:53,961
of the reporting period to determine who is in custody

2191
03:01:53,961 --> 03:01:57,965
that is here illegally in the United States. And the federal

2192
03:01:57,965 --> 03:02:01,635
government reimburses us regardless of interaction with

2193
03:02:01,635 --> 03:02:05,239
Ice or anything else, that that number is typically around

2194
03:02:05,239 --> 03:02:09,843
800,000 a year, which actually goes into our revenue line for

2195
03:02:09,843 --> 03:02:13,380
our budget with the county administrator. We haven't seen

2196
03:02:13,380 --> 03:02:15,783
the number yet this year. We're not sure what that number will

2197
03:02:15,783 --> 03:02:19,520
be. It varies each year, but it's it's administrative. It's

2198
03:02:19,520 --> 03:02:23,657
reimbursing local jails essentially for holding those

2199
03:02:23,657 --> 03:02:26,127
that are undocumented or here illegally.

2200
03:02:26,127 --> 03:02:29,262
But it's not a contract with Ice. I just want to make that.

2201
03:02:29,262 --> 03:02:32,199
Very clear. Okay. Um, other question. While

2202
03:02:32,199 --> 03:02:36,270
it's not on our agenda, we don't have any flat camera, um,

2203
03:02:36,270 --> 03:02:40,700
contracts before us at this time. What is your

2204
03:02:40,700 --> 03:02:44,145
understanding? And again, I utilize, I utilize I have

2205
03:02:44,145 --> 03:02:47,948
utilized cameras in my district extensively. They have been an

2206
03:02:47,948 --> 03:02:52,286
amazing tool to prevent crimes because they aren't facial

2207
03:02:52,286 --> 03:02:55,356
recognition cameras. They show a license plate. They show a

2208
03:02:55,356 --> 03:02:59,626
vehicle color, make, etc. but it was my understanding several

2209
03:02:59,626 --> 03:03:03,364
years ago when we started installing more flock cameras,

2210
03:03:03,364 --> 03:03:05,766
there were very narrow restrictions on where this data

2211
03:03:05,766 --> 03:03:09,637
can be shared. Um, can you comment on that as well?

2212
03:03:09,637 --> 03:03:12,372
Because we're getting these allegations of you must cancel

2213
03:03:12,372 --> 03:03:15,576
Ice contracts because you're sharing that data with Ice and

2214
03:03:15,576 --> 03:03:19,246
they are out there utilizing it to track non-citizens.

2215
03:03:19,246 --> 03:03:24,318
So many years ago, we told FLoC, we do not want our data

2216
03:03:24,318 --> 03:03:27,587
shared and it has not been shared as far as we know.

2217
03:03:27,587 --> 03:03:31,733
That's what they have, uh, informed us. But we also have

2218
03:03:31,733 --> 03:03:34,603
recourse. We have vigilant. There are other vendors that

2219
03:03:34,603 --> 03:03:38,607
provide cameras. And you're right, they are an incredible

2220
03:03:38,607 --> 03:03:42,745
investigative tool. They do deter crimes, particularly in

2221
03:03:42,745 --> 03:03:46,148
cities that have them and notify the community that

2222
03:03:46,148 --> 03:03:49,885
they're out and recording license plates. Our policy is

2223
03:03:49,885 --> 03:03:54,223
very clear. We hold the data for one year maximum, and that

2224
03:03:54,223 --> 03:03:58,160
is always subject to adjustment as well. But the idea is that

2225
03:03:58,160 --> 03:04:01,764
it's an investigative tool. That's that's all it is for us.

2226
03:04:01,764 --> 03:04:04,900
And as I mentioned, there are several vendors, not just FLoC

2227
03:04:04,900 --> 03:04:07,970
that happens to be receiving the attention today.

2228
03:04:07,970 --> 03:04:12,775
Thank you so much. Those are your questions. Our

2229
03:04:12,775 --> 03:04:19,975
questions. One of my I, I've been listening and I just just

2230
03:04:20,382 --> 03:04:25,782
generally. I'm curious. We've been we've talked I've asked

2231
03:04:26,388 --> 03:04:31,327
this question in the past. We don't get the data on the

2232
03:04:31,327 --> 03:04:36,131
victims of these crimes. So we don't know if these are folks

2233
03:04:36,131 --> 03:04:39,668
from those vulnerable communities, but it has been

2234
03:04:39,668 --> 03:04:44,740
discussed that because of these times, people are afraid to

2235
03:04:44,740 --> 03:04:49,811
report certain crimes and that often they are the victims of

2236
03:04:49,811 --> 03:04:52,214
this crime. Do you have anything to say about that?

2237
03:04:52,214 --> 03:04:55,684
Our our experience doesn't show that. I know that's a common

2238
03:04:55,684 --> 03:04:59,155
talking point, but the reality is that when you see 92

2239
03:04:59,155 --> 03:05:03,692
notifications, it's essentially 92 victims that are also that

2240
03:05:03,692 --> 03:05:07,290
also need to be taken consideration of. And that's my

2241
03:05:07,290 --> 03:05:11,367
job as sheriff. And some of these offenses are robberies.

2242
03:05:11,367 --> 03:05:14,169
They are burglaries. They are child molesters. They are

2243
03:05:14,169 --> 03:05:19,574
rapes. In some cases, homicide. And again, we're talking 12% of

2244
03:05:19,574 --> 03:05:24,513
what I was asked to notify Ice. I only complied in 12% of the

2245
03:05:24,513 --> 03:05:27,983
cases. And that's because we follow state law very

2246
03:05:27,983 --> 03:05:33,656
carefully. And this is a tool. Whatever Ice decides to do, at

2247
03:05:33,656 --> 03:05:37,193
least we may impact that cycle of crime. When you look at some

2248
03:05:37,193 --> 03:05:41,329
of these individual cases, there's a laundry list of prior

2249
03:05:41,329 --> 03:05:46,201
crimes from those offenders. Yeah. I'm just curious about

2250
03:05:46,201 --> 03:05:49,271
the victims of a lot of these crimes that, you know, we don't

2251
03:05:49,271 --> 03:05:54,276
know if they're also members of the the folks that are being

2252
03:05:54,276 --> 03:05:59,748
targeted as well. Okay. I am going to give folks a chance to

2253
03:05:59,748 --> 03:06:03,152
now make their comments. If anybody wants to. Action. That

2254
03:06:03,152 --> 03:06:04,953
was right. I have a question.

2255
03:06:04,953 --> 03:06:06,755
Go ahead. Thank you.

2256
03:06:06,755 --> 03:06:11,360
Um, so when those individuals they're charged here in the

2257
03:06:11,360 --> 03:06:16,899
county, um, let's say if it was a rape or a burglary or

2258
03:06:16,899 --> 03:06:21,670
whatever other issue it was, they'll do their time here in

2259
03:06:21,670 --> 03:06:24,907
the county, right? Not necessarily know.

2260
03:06:24,907 --> 03:06:28,252
So what what would happen to them. Because they'll get

2261
03:06:28,252 --> 03:06:31,989
fingerprinted ice to know why they're being charged here.

2262
03:06:31,989 --> 03:06:34,658
Right. And then what happens after that.

2263
03:06:34,658 --> 03:06:38,462
So when their case is adjudicated locally in Superior

2264
03:06:38,462 --> 03:06:42,666
Court, if the judge imposes a penalty, particularly for a

2265
03:06:42,666 --> 03:06:47,400
rape or child molest, that person is transferred to,

2266
03:06:47,400 --> 03:06:50,274
excuse me, state prison. So we would only hold that person

2267
03:06:50,274 --> 03:06:54,478
during the pendency of their criminal trial. You know, as of

2268
03:06:54,478 --> 03:06:58,820
last count, we had nearly 200 inmates facing murder charges

2269
03:06:58,820 --> 03:07:01,819
in this county. Those can take years to resolve. Those

2270
03:07:01,819 --> 03:07:04,822
individuals are my responsibility as the sheriff

2271
03:07:04,822 --> 03:07:10,761
to keep in custody until the case is resolved. In 96% of the

2272
03:07:10,761 --> 03:07:13,830
cases, the individual either pleads guilty or is found

2273
03:07:13,830 --> 03:07:17,702
guilty. In that case, they are transferred within days to the

2274
03:07:17,702 --> 03:07:22,502
state prison system. But without notifying Ice, they

2275
03:07:22,773 --> 03:07:27,430
still will go to it through a regular process. As someone who

2276
03:07:27,430 --> 03:07:30,430
is a US citizen. Yes.

2277
03:07:33,583 --> 03:07:38,522
Okay, so I think, I don't know. For me it's just hard to

2278
03:07:38,522 --> 03:07:42,793
understand, like why are we keep contacting Ice? Like, I

2279
03:07:42,793 --> 03:07:48,193
just don't understand. I guess the notifications, because if

2280
03:07:48,332 --> 03:07:51,535
they're going to be charged just like a US citizen and

2281
03:07:51,535 --> 03:07:53,603
they're undocumented, then they're going to pay for the

2282
03:07:53,603 --> 03:07:58,750
crime that they convicted, that they're convicted of. Right.

2283
03:07:58,750 --> 03:08:02,546
Um, so it seems like it makes even more of a case now that we

2284
03:08:02,546 --> 03:08:06,350
shouldn't provide any communication with Ice or have

2285
03:08:06,350 --> 03:08:09,553
any type of notification, because Ice already has that

2286
03:08:09,553 --> 03:08:12,156
information once they're charged, they're going to go

2287
03:08:12,156 --> 03:08:15,826
through the legal process for whatever crime they are

2288
03:08:15,826 --> 03:08:21,432
convicted of, and they'll get transferred to state prison or

2289
03:08:21,432 --> 03:08:24,702
if they if Ice comes with a ward or a court order, they'll

2290
03:08:24,702 --> 03:08:28,773
come and do their part. So I still don't understand why

2291
03:08:28,773 --> 03:08:31,842
we're providing notifications to Ice that the system is

2292
03:08:31,842 --> 03:08:33,910
working the way it's supposed to work.

2293
03:08:33,910 --> 03:08:38,449
The ice notifications are for releases from our custody, so

2294
03:08:38,449 --> 03:08:42,653
if they are transferred to state prison, which a person

2295
03:08:42,653 --> 03:08:45,856
convicted of a major felony or serious violent felony would

2296
03:08:45,856 --> 03:08:49,993
be, then Ice would deal with the state prison system. So

2297
03:08:49,993 --> 03:08:53,197
that's the difference. If that person is being released

2298
03:08:53,197 --> 03:08:56,600
pending charges, additional follow up investigation, no

2299
03:08:56,600 --> 03:09:01,138
charges, what have you. If they have qualifying offenses, those

2300
03:09:01,138 --> 03:09:06,538
are the ones that we notify on. Thank you.

2301
03:09:08,790 --> 03:09:11,882
I think that's all the questions. Does anybody want to

2302
03:09:11,882 --> 03:09:14,882
make some statements. Go ahead..

2303
03:09:15,850 --> 03:09:18,622
Okay. Well and I'm going to start out with something I've

2304
03:09:18,622 --> 03:09:24,295
said. And I vehemently believe it. The vast majority of

2305
03:09:24,295 --> 03:09:29,695
immigrants within our Contra Costa County are, regardless of

2306
03:09:29,908 --> 03:09:33,445
their legal status, are good people. They are law abiding.

2307
03:09:33,445 --> 03:09:37,516
They are hardworking in many cases taxpaying. They are

2308
03:09:37,516 --> 03:09:41,386
seeking the same American dream that my ancestors came to the

2309
03:09:41,386 --> 03:09:45,657
United States for. And so I've got to say, we can't say that

2310
03:09:45,657 --> 03:09:49,394
anything we're talking about today is broadly talking about

2311
03:09:49,394 --> 03:09:53,398
all of our immigrant population today. We're talking about a

2312
03:09:53,398 --> 03:09:59,398
very narrow cooperation under SB 54 of those who are here

2313
03:10:00,720 --> 03:10:04,872
without documentation, who have committed very serious crimes.

2314
03:10:05,144 --> 03:10:08,880
And I've got to say, um, you know, when we look at what's

2315
03:10:08,880 --> 03:10:12,840
going on, it is frightening. And I've got to agree with you

2316
03:10:12,840 --> 03:10:16,354
100%. None of us, I think, could have anticipated there

2317
03:10:16,354 --> 03:10:20,359
would be a day where we would see ice randomly picking people

2318
03:10:20,359 --> 03:10:24,897
up off the street, or people showing up at an ice hearing,

2319
03:10:24,897 --> 03:10:29,634
or Ice agent showing up at a public hearing, a criminal is

2320
03:10:29,634 --> 03:10:32,837
being treated as criminals when in fact they have come to this

2321
03:10:32,837 --> 03:10:36,108
country. They have applied for asylum. They're on a pathway to

2322
03:10:36,108 --> 03:10:39,311
citizenship. They may have a green card, they may be here on

2323
03:10:39,311 --> 03:10:42,313
a visa, yet they are being pulled out when they show up

2324
03:10:42,313 --> 03:10:45,517
for their court appearances. I find it reprehensible. I'm not

2325
03:10:45,517 --> 03:10:49,921
supportive of it in my own family. As I was speaking to my

2326
03:10:49,921 --> 03:10:54,393
son in law, whose mother is originally from Indonesia, she

2327
03:10:54,393 --> 03:10:58,997
is a U.S. citizen, yet she carries her passport with her

2328
03:10:58,997 --> 03:11:02,670
out of I fear that because she doesn't

2329
03:11:02,670 --> 03:11:05,871
look like an American citizen, that she might get pulled over

2330
03:11:05,871 --> 03:11:10,208
by ice. And it is shocking to me that I see this happening.

2331
03:11:10,208 --> 03:11:14,546
But I do want to distinguish that we do have to today, focus

2332
03:11:14,546 --> 03:11:18,150
on what we're talking about, which is those who are in the

2333
03:11:18,150 --> 03:11:22,954
country who commit serious crimes, and there are victims

2334
03:11:22,954 --> 03:11:26,291
as a share of is continuing to point out, we are leaving

2335
03:11:26,291 --> 03:11:28,827
victims in the wake. And I don't think w should be

2336
03:11:28,827 --> 03:11:32,765
conflating these two issues with the immigrant immigration

2337
03:11:32,765 --> 03:11:38,170
issue. The crisis that we are facing overall, I am of the

2338
03:11:38,170 --> 03:11:41,840
belief that people who are here without documentation, who do

2339
03:11:41,840 --> 03:11:45,777
commit serious crimes, don't deserve or should have that

2340
03:11:45,777 --> 03:11:49,114
expectation that they should remain in the country even if

2341
03:11:49,114 --> 03:11:53,985
they've paid their debt to society by being by serving

2342
03:11:53,985 --> 03:11:57,922
time in prison. Today, it was very illustrative to see how

2343
03:11:57,922 --> 03:12:02,727
many of the people who were notified on the Who. We

2344
03:12:02,727 --> 03:12:06,264
received the request. We notified have an extensive

2345
03:12:06,264 --> 03:12:09,735
criminal record. And as I'm out meeting with people in the

2346
03:12:09,735 --> 03:12:14,600
community and I talk about this issue a lot because there is so

2347
03:12:14,600 --> 03:12:19,211
much fear about ISIS actions, about immigration, I will say

2348
03:12:19,211 --> 03:12:24,150
that the vast majority of people I speak to do not

2349
03:12:24,150 --> 03:12:27,285
believe that people who commit serious crimes should be

2350
03:12:27,285 --> 03:12:30,231
allowed to remain in the country. They don't like ISIS

2351
03:12:30,231 --> 03:12:32,967
actions, they don't like what is happening when people are

2352
03:12:32,967 --> 03:12:35,837
being pulled off the street or out of a legitimate court

2353
03:12:35,837 --> 03:12:39,400
hearing that they're at, but they do not believe that people

2354
03:12:39,400 --> 03:12:41,376
who commit serious crimes should remain in this country.

2355
03:12:41,376 --> 03:12:45,847
So I am very supportive of the way the measured response to

2356
03:12:45,847 --> 03:12:48,716
the sheriff has been taking with this, where it's not every

2357
03:12:48,716 --> 03:12:51,986
single request from Ice is being responded to, but those

2358
03:12:51,986 --> 03:12:57,325
12% cases that truly meet the SB 54 standard, and we have a

2359
03:12:57,325 --> 03:13:01,796
very progressive legislature. And if they felt that SB 54 did

2360
03:13:01,796 --> 03:13:05,266
not set some significant guidelines, they would not

2361
03:13:05,266 --> 03:13:10,404
hesitate to change SB 54 and limited even further if they

2362
03:13:10,404 --> 03:13:13,674
did not believe we had those guardrails in place to ensure

2363
03:13:13,674 --> 03:13:17,544
that innocent citizens or innocent non-citizens who are

2364
03:13:17,544 --> 03:13:22,160
here in the country were given a pathway to deportation. And

2365
03:13:22,160 --> 03:13:25,352
so I think it's very important that we really focus on what

2366
03:13:25,352 --> 03:13:29,900
does SB 54 allow. Are we complying with that? That's the

2367
03:13:29,900 --> 03:13:32,293
purpose of the forum, and I've not heard anything today

2368
03:13:32,293 --> 03:13:37,310
indicating that we are not only not that we are fully compliant

2369
03:13:37,310 --> 03:13:40,635
with it, but also we are taking a very measured response to it.

2370
03:13:40,635 --> 03:13:44,505
Nothing we are doing is could reasonably be deemed

2371
03:13:44,505 --> 03:13:48,309
cooperation with Ice. We do not provide the meeting rooms. The

2372
03:13:48,309 --> 03:13:51,379
sheriff's indicated we do not interview with individuals. We

2373
03:13:51,379 --> 03:13:55,449
are not participating in any Ice raids, and I think that's

2374
03:13:55,449 --> 03:13:59,530
got to be a message that is put out in the community. And with

2375
03:13:59,530 --> 03:14:03,457
regard to the flock cameras, to me, they are a very, very

2376
03:14:03,457 --> 03:14:07,729
valuable tool in law enforcement. None of us have an

2377
03:14:07,729 --> 03:14:12,933
expectation of privacy when we are on a public road, driving a

2378
03:14:12,933 --> 03:14:17,710
car to the extent of an expectation of privacy that our

2379
03:14:17,710 --> 03:14:21,275
make model of our car and our license plate will not be. That

2380
03:14:21,275 --> 03:14:23,477
information will not be gathered. I think that's

2381
03:14:23,477 --> 03:14:26,480
critical. And to me, it's something where I do not

2382
03:14:26,480 --> 03:14:30,551
believe. We want to see a reduction in flock cameras

2383
03:14:30,551 --> 03:14:35,156
because they do prevent many, many crimes by notifying police

2384
03:14:35,156 --> 03:14:38,559
when some when a vehicle affiliated with a felony, a

2385
03:14:38,559 --> 03:14:42,763
stolen vehicle enters into a community. So I am very

2386
03:14:42,763 --> 03:14:46,330
supportive of us continuing with those. And those are my

2387
03:14:46,330 --> 03:14:50,233
remarks. But I have been patient. No.

2388
03:14:52,506 --> 03:14:56,844
Um, first and foremost, I would agree with Supervisor Anderson,

2389
03:14:56,844 --> 03:15:01,382
and we're here about the Truth Act. Um, specifically and how

2390
03:15:01,382 --> 03:15:06,521
we're focused in on on our direct what I'll call direct,

2391
03:15:06,521 --> 03:15:10,324
um, cooperation or work with Ice in the sense of responding

2392
03:15:10,324 --> 03:15:13,260
to these requests for notification. But it does give

2393
03:15:13,260 --> 03:15:16,531
us the foundational discussion and even broader discussion as

2394
03:15:16,531 --> 03:15:21,402
we move to our September conversation on our policies in

2395
03:15:21,402 --> 03:15:25,139
non cooperation with Ice specifically. And I think one

2396
03:15:25,139 --> 03:15:29,676
of the recurring themes we've heard here today is especially

2397
03:15:29,676 --> 03:15:33,827
when it comes to flock cameras, but another sense that the

2398
03:15:33,827 --> 03:15:38,320
tactics that are used by DHS and Ice in mining our systems,

2399
03:15:38,320 --> 03:15:42,169
no matter what that is, um, to further their immigration

2400
03:15:42,169 --> 03:15:46,507
enforcement policies and actions. And I think that's a

2401
03:15:46,507 --> 03:15:49,843
theme that we're hearing that the community wants us to

2402
03:15:49,843 --> 03:15:55,449
protect that data, protect that information in order to to be,

2403
03:15:55,449 --> 03:15:58,119
you know, protecting our community and, and keep them

2404
03:15:58,119 --> 03:16:01,255
safe. So I think what we're hearing a lot of today, there

2405
03:16:01,255 --> 03:16:05,393
are definitely questions I have is we come out of here. Um, but

2406
03:16:05,393 --> 03:16:08,462
what we look at when we move into our conversations, which I

2407
03:16:08,462 --> 03:16:13,801
hope is again, September 8th to discuss, you know, our policies

2408
03:16:13,801 --> 03:16:17,738
make us stand on our values and communicate that clearly to the

2409
03:16:17,738 --> 03:16:20,942
community. And I said this in our last conversations, but I

2410
03:16:20,942 --> 03:16:26,140
also do not want to give a false sense of security or

2411
03:16:26,140 --> 03:16:31,419
safety when we're talking about a federal administration who we

2412
03:16:31,419 --> 03:16:36,957
do not have the power to preempt and or control. So it

2413
03:16:36,957 --> 03:16:40,361
has to be those things we can control those actions. We can

2414
03:16:40,361 --> 03:16:44,298
take. And again, I look forward to those discussions as we move

2415
03:16:44,298 --> 03:16:47,301
forward. You know, we've spent 18 months in the equity

2416
03:16:47,301 --> 03:16:50,704
committee having these conversations. And I think it's

2417
03:16:50,704 --> 03:16:54,776
incumbent upon us to follow through on that and bring that

2418
03:16:54,776 --> 03:17:00,776
to closure. So thanks. Thank you. Um, and I appreciate

2419
03:17:06,186 --> 03:17:08,723
all of the discussion today. I appreciate all the public

2420
03:17:08,723 --> 03:17:12,727
comment and from hearing from my colleagues. I think what

2421
03:17:12,727 --> 03:17:16,630
we're hearing today is quite simple. It's not quite

2422
03:17:16,630 --> 03:17:19,801
complicated at all. Community is just asking for you to stand

2423
03:17:19,801 --> 03:17:27,100
in community and support them. They want to feel. They want to

2424
03:17:30,144 --> 03:17:33,480
feel that the people they elected support them. They want

2425
03:17:33,480 --> 03:17:39,286
to feel that our public safety support them, our staff support

2426
03:17:39,286 --> 03:17:43,690
them is is not complicated at all. I think we make it

2427
03:17:43,690 --> 03:17:49,696
complicated and the way we don't make it complicated is is

2428
03:17:49,696 --> 03:17:54,368
simple. It's saying that we're not going to cooperate with Ice.

2429
03:17:54,368 --> 03:17:56,636
We are going to follow the law. And if someone's doing

2430
03:17:56,636 --> 03:18:00,174
something wrong, they should be convicted and processed. And I

2431
03:18:00,174 --> 03:18:06,174
understand that, um, I have someone who father was killed

2432
03:18:06,180 --> 03:18:10,117
by his brother. I understand that people should go to jail

2433
03:18:10,117 --> 03:18:13,120
for the crimes that they do, and they should be convicted of

2434
03:18:13,120 --> 03:18:17,391
those crimes, so I'm not against that at all. I think

2435
03:18:17,391 --> 03:18:21,261
what we see across the nation, and then we look locally here

2436
03:18:21,261 --> 03:18:24,798
in our community, those actions are taking place in our

2437
03:18:24,798 --> 03:18:30,537
community. And so how do we come together as here as our

2438
03:18:30,537 --> 03:18:34,489
Contra Costa family, to make sure that our immigrant

2439
03:18:34,489 --> 03:18:39,889
community feel protected. And that is not difficult. We

2440
03:18:40,228 --> 03:18:44,310
cannot stop Ice. That's correct. But we can stand in

2441
03:18:44,310 --> 03:18:47,235
unity to say that we're not going to work with them. And so

2442
03:18:47,235 --> 03:18:49,504
if they are in our community, we're not going to allow them

2443
03:18:49,504 --> 03:18:51,773
to be in our facilities. We're not going to allow them to be

2444
03:18:51,773 --> 03:18:55,430
in our health care facilities. They can't go to a Head Start

2445
03:18:55,430 --> 03:19:00,782
location. They can't go into any of our public safety areas.

2446
03:19:00,782 --> 03:19:04,920
They can't come to empty lots and stage. I mean, these are

2447
03:19:04,920 --> 03:19:08,190
just simple little things. I think community is asking. I

2448
03:19:08,190 --> 03:19:10,858
just don't feel like it's that complicated. And as we go into

2449
03:19:10,858 --> 03:19:14,396
our next conversation in a couple of weeks to talk about

2450
03:19:14,396 --> 03:19:18,333
an ordinance or a policy, that's another place where

2451
03:19:18,333 --> 03:19:21,135
community is just asking you to stand in community. They know

2452
03:19:21,135 --> 03:19:23,939
that you can't protect them at the gas station or the grocery

2453
03:19:23,939 --> 03:19:28,877
store. They just want to know that you all support them, and

2454
03:19:28,877 --> 03:19:34,877
making sure that ice is not cooperating together in any

2455
03:19:35,283 --> 03:19:39,888
kind of way, whatever that is. No information being shared,

2456
03:19:39,888 --> 03:19:44,250
that's all. Or they're asking for. So I hope that as we move

2457
03:19:44,250 --> 03:19:46,961
forward in the next couple of weeks, we can think about that

2458
03:19:46,961 --> 03:19:53,561
of how we're not going to cooperate at all. Thank you.

2459
03:20:01,777 --> 03:20:06,581
I have a question related to the work we're doing for the

2460
03:20:06,581 --> 03:20:12,581
September 8th meeting. Um, Tom, does the requirements that AG

2461
03:20:13,255 --> 03:20:17,325
Bonta has asked us to and work incorporating, you know, those

2462
03:20:17,325 --> 03:20:22,130
things do those things impact the the work that we're talking

2463
03:20:22,130 --> 03:20:25,730
about today on the sheriff's interactions?

2464
03:20:29,604 --> 03:20:33,274
Uh, to some extent they do. But to another extent they don't.

2465
03:20:33,274 --> 03:20:37,612
Um, and I'll be. really good. It is a good answer. So I'll be

2466
03:20:37,612 --> 03:20:40,282
able to explain that more on the eighth. But the attorney

2467
03:20:40,282 --> 03:20:44,486
general has already issued guidance that the sheriff, uh,

2468
03:20:44,486 --> 03:20:48,220
follows. And so I'll be able to explain kind of how the two

2469
03:20:48,220 --> 03:20:49,491
interact. Yeah, just I'm just trying to

2470
03:20:49,491 --> 03:20:56,910
help people kind of understand where that is. And, um, there's

2471
03:20:57,299 --> 03:21:02,699
been some questions related to, um, ordinances and policies

2472
03:21:02,971 --> 03:21:05,573
related. I know this is an agenda, but it's sort of

2473
03:21:05,573 --> 03:21:10,711
connected. So you're going to have to be generous with me. Um,

2474
03:21:10,711 --> 03:21:15,917
one of the conditions, one of the concerns is our, um,

2475
03:21:15,917 --> 03:21:20,321
agreements with our contractors to align with what we're doing.

2476
03:21:20,321 --> 03:21:25,121
Does that apply to, like, someone like flock?

2477
03:21:27,262 --> 03:21:31,150
So I'll be able to explain that as well on the eighth. But, um,

2478
03:21:31,150 --> 03:21:35,487
in general, I mean, if the board does, uh, you know, want

2479
03:21:35,487 --> 03:21:38,957
to establish, uh, restrictions on contractors, there'll be,

2480
03:21:38,957 --> 03:21:42,761
uh, they'll apply to contracts going forward. Um, and not

2481
03:21:42,761 --> 03:21:44,829
necessarily contracts that are already in existence.

2482
03:21:44,829 --> 03:21:48,633
So there is that opportunity to, to have that influence,

2483
03:21:48,633 --> 03:21:52,369
possibly. Yes. That that'll be kind of

2484
03:21:52,369 --> 03:21:54,305
one of the options that the board will.

2485
03:21:54,305 --> 03:21:56,400
Sorry. We'll be able to discuss.

2486
03:21:56,400 --> 03:22:00,512
Thanks, Tom. Go ahead John. Thanks. And I'll start by

2487
03:22:00,512 --> 03:22:04,449
always thanking the public that shows up to advocate during

2488
03:22:04,449 --> 03:22:06,651
these really trying, challenging times. And thanks

2489
03:22:06,651 --> 03:22:09,787
to the Sheriff's department for collecting more data. We've

2490
03:22:09,787 --> 03:22:12,257
asked always for more and appreciate getting more

2491
03:22:12,257 --> 03:22:17,261
information. Um, we've had a few of these truth Act forms,

2492
03:22:17,261 --> 03:22:21,733
and I think what we're seeing in the last couple of years,

2493
03:22:21,733 --> 03:22:25,269
more and more and we know this, we feel this, we here, this is

2494
03:22:25,269 --> 03:22:30,669
the the frustration, anger, um, and other really strong

2495
03:22:32,744 --> 03:22:35,280
feelings with what's happening in this country and the way ice

2496
03:22:35,280 --> 03:22:41,280
is acting. Um, ice is, um, murdering of American citizens.

2497
03:22:41,686 --> 03:22:45,223
ICE's, um, splitting of families. And I think that's

2498
03:22:45,223 --> 03:22:50,228
what we're seeing. That's what we're feeling is that ice is

2499
03:22:50,228 --> 03:22:55,100
doing things that we never expected or wanted, or that it

2500
03:22:55,100 --> 03:22:57,835
should be doing. And I think that's what we feel. That's

2501
03:22:57,835 --> 03:23:01,372
what we see through these, um, through these the testimony and

2502
03:23:01,372 --> 03:23:06,430
why it's reflected. Um, here and, and at other meetings,

2503
03:23:06,430 --> 03:23:10,114
including on September 8th. So just a couple of observations,

2504
03:23:10,114 --> 03:23:14,652
a few things I've always said, um, no matter who the sheriff

2505
03:23:14,652 --> 03:23:19,560
is, I think we should have always have sheriff oversight,

2506
03:23:19,560 --> 03:23:21,658
whether it's through an inspector general or a

2507
03:23:21,658 --> 03:23:24,462
citizen's oversight committee. I've taken that position

2508
03:23:24,462 --> 03:23:27,398
constantly. I voted that way. Just hasn't received majority

2509
03:23:27,398 --> 03:23:30,735
support. And I say that whoever the sheriff is, I think that's

2510
03:23:30,735 --> 03:23:37,935
the model that we should have. Second, um, I know on September

2511
03:23:38,142 --> 03:23:43,481
8th we will be having a discussion about our policies.

2512
03:23:43,481 --> 03:23:48,860
Um, I do support a stronger, um, ordinance. We'll have that

2513
03:23:48,860 --> 03:23:51,355
discussion. I won't get into that today. And I look forward

2514
03:23:51,355 --> 03:23:56,940
to having that, which is a separate I understand it's

2515
03:23:56,940 --> 03:23:59,430
related here somewhat, but it's a separate issue. Right. So

2516
03:23:59,430 --> 03:24:01,699
that's going to be, I think, a vibrant discussion. And I

2517
03:24:01,699 --> 03:24:06,103
appreciate that the board is has directed county council to

2518
03:24:06,103 --> 03:24:09,907
come back with some more options and information, and

2519
03:24:09,907 --> 03:24:13,845
we'll see where the board goes on that. I will say, because I

2520
03:24:13,845 --> 03:24:16,714
serve on the Joint Conference committee to oversee the

2521
03:24:16,714 --> 03:24:20,851
hospital and clinics, along with my colleague, Supervisor

2522
03:24:20,851 --> 03:24:25,656
Carlson, and two physicians, um, the the Joint Conference

2523
03:24:25,656 --> 03:24:28,793
Committee, which is tasked with setting policies for our

2524
03:24:28,793 --> 03:24:33,283
hospital and 11 clinics, has passed a policy on

2525
03:24:33,283 --> 03:24:37,200
non-cooperation with Ice. Now, some want us the policy to

2526
03:24:37,200 --> 03:24:40,423
include some elements that are in LA county's that go beyond

2527
03:24:40,423 --> 03:24:43,760
what's in Santa Clara or Alameda or even San Francisco.

2528
03:24:43,760 --> 03:24:46,897
And so we'll be taking that issue up again. But I want to

2529
03:24:46,897 --> 03:24:52,169
be clear, we did pass a policy that specifically addresses how

2530
03:24:52,169 --> 03:24:55,772
we limit Ice in our health facilities, because that's

2531
03:24:55,772 --> 03:24:59,776
that's a separate thing from this September 8th discussion.

2532
03:24:59,776 --> 03:25:02,979
I'm sure it may get wrapped up in it, but it's a policy

2533
03:25:02,979 --> 03:25:08,510
because we're a health. We're also a health agency. Um, so

2534
03:25:08,510 --> 03:25:13,990
just just to clarify that, um, I have I have always said that

2535
03:25:13,990 --> 03:25:18,729
I believe the line of which serious crimes and felonies

2536
03:25:18,729 --> 03:25:23,133
that we should be informing, notifying Ice about is a

2537
03:25:23,133 --> 03:25:26,203
different line than where the sheriff's drawing the line. I

2538
03:25:26,203 --> 03:25:28,738
do believe that. I know there's been some discussion about

2539
03:25:28,738 --> 03:25:33,810
that. Um, and, um, I thought, you know, Craig Lazaridis

2540
03:25:33,810 --> 03:25:36,213
comment is an interesting one because I think a lot of people

2541
03:25:36,213 --> 03:25:40,684
reflect where Craig's comment who the Martinez resident who

2542
03:25:40,684 --> 03:25:44,488
said, um, because I hear this also from residents in Richmond

2543
03:25:44,488 --> 03:25:50,227
and San Pablo. Um, we, we think what Ice is doing is wrong. We

2544
03:25:50,227 --> 03:25:54,297
need to limit our cooperation with Ice. We need to be we need

2545
03:25:54,297 --> 03:25:58,568
to also limit, um, the sheriff's cooperation with Ice.

2546
03:25:58,568 --> 03:26:03,239
But there are certain types of serious crimes and felonies

2547
03:26:03,239 --> 03:26:07,443
that we don't want to release, whoever they are. So I think we

2548
03:26:07,443 --> 03:26:09,712
have to acknowledge that there are people who feel that way,

2549
03:26:09,712 --> 03:26:12,315
people who are strongly critical of Ice, strongly

2550
03:26:12,315 --> 03:26:15,518
critical of what's happening, who feel, and including in

2551
03:26:15,518 --> 03:26:18,855
cities like Richmond who feel we need we need to figure this

2552
03:26:18,855 --> 03:26:23,326
out. Um, and so I've always said, I think the sheriff's

2553
03:26:23,326 --> 03:26:26,796
line is, is not where I think it should be. Um, are there

2554
03:26:26,796 --> 03:26:30,660
some serious crimes and felonies in which there should

2555
03:26:30,660 --> 03:26:33,403
be notification? I think there's a lot of people who

2556
03:26:33,403 --> 03:26:37,207
believe we need to figure out what that right line is. Now,

2557
03:26:37,207 --> 03:26:41,878
the other thing is, whatever this board says, um, and I

2558
03:26:41,878 --> 03:26:45,815
think others have pointed out what's happening in San Diego,

2559
03:26:45,815 --> 03:26:49,619
um, in San Diego County, of the Board of Supervisors providing

2560
03:26:49,619 --> 03:26:52,822
the direction to do something, and the sheriff not doing it

2561
03:26:52,822 --> 03:26:55,959
because under state constitutional law, the sheriff

2562
03:26:55,959 --> 03:26:59,362
has independent authority in other counties, like in Santa

2563
03:26:59,362 --> 03:27:01,898
Clara, the Board of Supervisors and the sheriff are on the same

2564
03:27:01,898 --> 03:27:05,102
page or in or in other counties, I think the same in

2565
03:27:05,102 --> 03:27:10,306
Alameda. In some counties they're not. So our ability as

2566
03:27:10,306 --> 03:27:15,779
a board, I think there's things we can do. What? But if if five

2567
03:27:15,779 --> 03:27:18,582
members of the board said, we don't want you to cooperate at

2568
03:27:18,582 --> 03:27:23,119
all, and the sheriff decided to do his own thing, that's what

2569
03:27:23,119 --> 03:27:26,560
the law would allow the sheriff to do, despite what we say. And

2570
03:27:26,560 --> 03:27:29,659
that's what's happening in San Diego County. What I, I think

2571
03:27:29,659 --> 03:27:31,814
we need to continue to strengthen our policies. I'm

2572
03:27:31,814 --> 03:27:34,484
looking forward to doing that on September 8th when this

2573
03:27:34,484 --> 03:27:37,887
comes before us even looking at what do we do more with

2574
03:27:37,887 --> 03:27:41,910
hospital and clinics? And I believe the line should be

2575
03:27:41,910 --> 03:27:44,161
drawn differently than where the sheriff's drawing the line.

2576
03:27:44,161 --> 03:27:47,497
But I don't quite go as far as saying no cooperation at all,

2577
03:27:47,497 --> 03:27:50,300
because I do think there are some who believe that that

2578
03:27:50,300 --> 03:27:54,504
very, very serious felonies, there should be some ability to

2579
03:27:54,504 --> 03:27:57,306
notify, just that I don't believe the line is in the

2580
03:27:57,306 --> 03:28:00,444
right place. So I think I've always been up front. That's

2581
03:28:00,444 --> 03:28:03,446
where I'm coming from, all these things. Um, now, if we

2582
03:28:03,446 --> 03:28:07,490
had additional sheriff oversight, um, we could do some

2583
03:28:07,490 --> 03:28:10,530
other things because the sheriff oversight would have

2584
03:28:10,530 --> 03:28:13,723
subpoena power. State law gives it subpoena power. We do get

2585
03:28:13,723 --> 03:28:16,259
quarterly reports, which I appreciate, from the sheriff's

2586
03:28:16,259 --> 03:28:19,195
office. He's provided more data. I just believe as a

2587
03:28:19,195 --> 03:28:22,799
matter of structure, we should have official oversight

2588
03:28:22,799 --> 03:28:25,802
established under state law, which we we haven't done yet as

2589
03:28:25,802 --> 03:28:31,341
a board. So, um, I'm looking forward to continuing to

2590
03:28:31,341 --> 03:28:34,544
advocate consistent with what I just said. And on September

2591
03:28:34,544 --> 03:28:38,548
8th, supporting the stronger ordinance. And we'll see where

2592
03:28:38,548 --> 03:28:43,348
we go. I, I, I think my colleagues

2593
03:28:48,224 --> 03:28:54,224
have said it very well. Um, I appreciate the public

2594
03:28:55,231 --> 03:29:00,310
participating. I think it is unprecedented times. And

2595
03:29:02,172 --> 03:29:05,708
there's a lot of different things that we need to do to

2596
03:29:05,708 --> 03:29:11,114
help people feel safer. Um, as we approach the September 8th

2597
03:29:11,114 --> 03:29:15,585
meeting, I'm also interested in knowing what all of our cities

2598
03:29:15,585 --> 03:29:21,457
and major agencies, policies or ordinances are that apply to

2599
03:29:21,457 --> 03:29:25,928
what we're considering, because I think that folks don't

2600
03:29:25,928 --> 03:29:31,200
realize that a lot of the work we do is only applicable to

2601
03:29:31,200 --> 03:29:35,672
unincorporated Contra Costa, or within our county buildings.

2602
03:29:35,672 --> 03:29:39,742
And I think if, uh, if people are truly committed to Contra

2603
03:29:39,742 --> 03:29:45,810
Costa as a whole, it's got to be everyone. So hopefully, uh,

2604
03:29:45,810 --> 03:29:48,351
during that staff report, we will see what these other

2605
03:29:48,351 --> 03:29:54,223
cities and agencies like Bart or CHP or East Bay Regional

2606
03:29:54,223 --> 03:29:56,559
Park, you know, all of these different agencies that also

2607
03:29:56,559 --> 03:30:00,830
participate. Uh, what their ordinances and policies are.

2608
03:30:00,830 --> 03:30:03,165
Because if we're going to do something, we all have to be in

2609
03:30:03,165 --> 03:30:07,837
it together. So at this point, there's no action on this

2610
03:30:07,837 --> 03:30:12,637
particular item. Correct. So thank you for everyone

2611
03:30:12,976 --> 03:30:15,111
participating. And we're going to move on to the next.

2612
03:30:15,111 --> 03:30:19,248
Please come back on September 8th. I'm sure you will.

2613
03:30:19,248 --> 03:30:26,448
I'm sure they will. Um, it is 1220. We have a very important

2614
03:30:27,924 --> 03:30:33,840
presentation, uh, from Doctor Colfax. Um, I think we'll take

2615
03:30:33,840 --> 03:30:37,821
that. And then we're going to go to lunch for a short amount

2616
03:30:37,821 --> 03:30:40,357
of time, and then we'll come back for the rest of the

2617
03:30:40,357 --> 03:30:44,628
meeting. So if you are here for something other than Doctor

2618
03:30:44,628 --> 03:30:49,330
Colfax presentation, I just want to let you know. So we're

2619
03:30:49,330 --> 03:30:53,233
going to do Doctor Colfax presentation now.

2620
03:30:54,105 --> 03:30:56,505
Is that okay? Yes.

2621
03:30:59,430 --> 03:31:03,914
Everybody's going to do a coffee bathroom break. We'll be

2622
03:31:03,914 --> 03:31:10,514
back in five minutes. Our next item to be discussed is

2623
03:37:30,510 --> 03:37:33,979
consider accepting a report on Contra Costa Health's current

2624
03:37:33,979 --> 03:37:38,251
fiscal outlook and long term planning for Contra Costa

2625
03:37:38,251 --> 03:37:42,121
Regional Medical Center and health centers, as recommended

2626
03:37:42,121 --> 03:37:44,924
by the Health Services Director, and to provide

2627
03:37:44,924 --> 03:37:47,727
guidance. We have doctor Grant Colfax, our Health Service

2628
03:37:47,727 --> 03:37:51,330
director. We have Andrew Morrell, our chief financial

2629
03:37:51,330 --> 03:37:54,934
officer. Is this the first time you're here in the board

2630
03:37:54,934 --> 03:37:59,805
meeting? I don't yeah, I thought so. This was new. Um,

2631
03:37:59,805 --> 03:38:04,877
our chief and David Culberson, our chief executive officer for

2632
03:38:04,877 --> 03:38:07,747
Contra Costa Regional Medical Center and health centers.

2633
03:38:07,747 --> 03:38:12,484
You've been here a number of times. So. So welcome. Uh, this

2634
03:38:12,484 --> 03:38:17,884
is a really important presentation. And, uh, I think

2635
03:38:18,491 --> 03:38:22,280
this is something that people are going to come back and

2636
03:38:22,280 --> 03:38:25,898
watch even when they're not here today. So this is really

2637
03:38:25,898 --> 03:38:32,498
important. So take it away. Well thank you, chair, and good

2638
03:38:32,972 --> 03:38:36,909
afternoon. Board and members of the public public, it's a

2639
03:38:36,909 --> 03:38:39,245
pleasure to be with you to present an update on the fiscal

2640
03:38:39,245 --> 03:38:42,848
outlook of Contra Costa Health, including with a focus on

2641
03:38:42,848 --> 03:38:47,787
Contra Costa Regional Medical Center. Um, first, the good

2642
03:38:47,787 --> 03:38:51,924
news, the short term fiscal picture for Contra Costa Health

2643
03:38:51,924 --> 03:38:55,194
has improved. This is due to the very hard work of people

2644
03:38:55,194 --> 03:38:58,731
across Contra Costa Health who remain firmly dedicated to

2645
03:38:58,731 --> 03:39:01,467
providing the highest quality health care for everyone in

2646
03:39:01,467 --> 03:39:06,400
Contra Costa, including an especially the most vulnerable.

2647
03:39:06,400 --> 03:39:10,760
However, due to severe reductions in funding from H.R.

2648
03:39:10,760 --> 03:39:14,347
one and recent state policies, the long term fiscal status of

2649
03:39:14,347 --> 03:39:17,950
Contra Costa Health remains dire, as it does for public

2650
03:39:17,950 --> 03:39:23,350
health systems across the region, state and country. The

2651
03:39:23,623 --> 03:39:27,426
fact is that the big picture is that we and no county, will be

2652
03:39:27,426 --> 03:39:30,960
able to make up the severity of the federal and state

2653
03:39:30,960 --> 03:39:33,566
reductions. Our health care system, and especially the

2654
03:39:33,566 --> 03:39:38,576
hospital, remains a grave risk. And I think it's important to

2655
03:39:38,576 --> 03:39:42,379
remember that behind these fiscal numbers, our lives at

2656
03:39:42,379 --> 03:39:46,116
risk, people at risk of losing their health insurance have not

2657
03:39:46,116 --> 03:39:49,853
been able to access care, of delaying care for themselves or

2658
03:39:49,853 --> 03:39:53,791
their loved ones. We know that without coverage, without

2659
03:39:53,791 --> 03:39:57,861
health care coverage, people get sicker. And some people

2660
03:39:57,861 --> 03:40:03,667
will die sooner. I trained in the days before Obamacare and

2661
03:40:03,667 --> 03:40:06,870
frequently saw people with late diagnoses, whether it be

2662
03:40:06,870 --> 03:40:10,470
cancer, infections or behavioral health diagnoses,

2663
03:40:10,474 --> 03:40:13,210
suffering in emergency rooms because they didn't have the

2664
03:40:13,210 --> 03:40:17,682
coverage or a place to go for their care. We don't want to go

2665
03:40:17,682 --> 03:40:21,218
back to those days. That is why we need your leadersp,

2666
03:40:21,218 --> 03:40:24,221
support and guidance as we face a challenge as we face

2667
03:40:24,221 --> 03:40:28,692
challenging and a fiscally bleak picture. Despite what the

2668
03:40:28,692 --> 03:40:32,830
potential future holds under H.R. one, I am hopeful and

2669
03:40:32,830 --> 03:40:37,434
optimistic that the future can be different. In a future where

2670
03:40:37,434 --> 03:40:40,504
the creativity, resilience, and commitment of the Contra Costa

2671
03:40:40,504 --> 03:40:45,410
Health Team and our community partners and you allow us to

2672
03:40:45,410 --> 03:40:47,712
continue to serve the community and meet the needs of the most

2673
03:40:47,712 --> 03:40:51,480
vulnerable. This will take hard work at the local level to

2674
03:40:51,480 --> 03:40:54,451
modernize and improve our systems of care. It will

2675
03:40:54,451 --> 03:40:59,851
require prioritizing and making hard decisions, and even more

2676
03:41:01,591 --> 03:41:04,261
importantly, because we cannot do it alone, it will require

2677
03:41:04,261 --> 03:41:06,997
reversing the impact of H.R. one or creating and

2678
03:41:06,997 --> 03:41:10,133
implementing new policies for sufficient health care funding

2679
03:41:10,133 --> 03:41:13,871
to provide care. Thank you for your support, and I'll turn it

2680
03:41:13,871 --> 03:41:19,209
over to Drew Merrill to go through the numbers.

2681
03:41:19,209 --> 03:41:21,209
Good afternoon. Supervisors.

2682
03:41:21,612 --> 03:41:25,816
Drew Morales, CFO. Happy to be here and presenting, uh,

2683
03:41:25,816 --> 03:41:29,619
starting with the slides we'll go through an overview of this

2684
03:41:29,619 --> 03:41:33,691
discussion today. We'll go to the second slide. Um, really

2685
03:41:33,691 --> 03:41:37,270
starting with the changing landscape. So what's changed?

2686
03:41:37,270 --> 03:41:40,231
How is HR one state budget impacted. How do we see it

2687
03:41:40,231 --> 03:41:43,900
impacting Contra Costa Health. Um what we're doing our

2688
03:41:43,900 --> 03:41:47,904
response. How are we adapting to the fiscal environment. And

2689
03:41:47,904 --> 03:41:52,576
then really drilling into where the impact is the greatest at

2690
03:41:52,576 --> 03:41:56,313
our county hospital and clinic system Caremark and how we're

2691
03:41:56,313 --> 03:41:59,784
adapting and planning to modernize the county's hospital

2692
03:41:59,784 --> 03:42:05,256
to meet future community needs. Some takeaways that want to hit

2693
03:42:05,256 --> 03:42:09,193
right off the bat. Um, we have made near-term progress. We

2694
03:42:09,193 --> 03:42:14,593
passed a budget, um, for 26, 27 with a $80 million deficit.

2695
03:42:15,650 --> 03:42:20,300
We've identified $70 million of initiatives that will help us

2696
03:42:20,300 --> 03:42:23,607
reduce that deficit to $10 million in the current fiscal

2697
03:42:23,607 --> 03:42:27,677
year, which is an important progress, but doesn't change

2698
03:42:27,677 --> 03:42:31,348
the underlying reality. Uh, HR one is the country's largest

2699
03:42:31,348 --> 03:42:35,352
cut to Medicaid in its history. In the program's history, um,

2700
03:42:35,352 --> 03:42:38,298
that leads to what we project and expect to be in a

2701
03:42:38,298 --> 03:42:41,298
cumulative, cumulative $730 million deficit through 30, 31.

2702
03:42:44,770 --> 03:42:48,841
Um, and that is most directly impacting the county's hospital

2703
03:42:48,841 --> 03:42:52,450
and clinic network. Uh, that's where we face the steepest

2704
03:42:52,450 --> 03:42:55,849
fiscal challenge that requires long term planning and to

2705
03:42:55,849 --> 03:42:59,118
preserve the care for our community.

2706
03:42:59,118 --> 03:43:03,918
Next slide. So as we approach this budget

2707
03:43:04,123 --> 03:43:09,128
planning, as we approach both closing the 2627 deficit and

2708
03:43:09,128 --> 03:43:13,660
most fundamentally, the 730 million for the cumulative

2709
03:43:13,660 --> 03:43:16,736
deficit, we want to keep certain principles in mind, uh,

2710
03:43:16,736 --> 03:43:20,940
prioritizing cares, which means prioritizing direct care in

2711
03:43:20,940 --> 03:43:24,540
essential community services, preserving access, protecting

2712
03:43:25,411 --> 03:43:29,749
access to care and services, especially for underserved and

2713
03:43:29,749 --> 03:43:32,952
historically marginalized communities. And finally, we

2714
03:43:32,952 --> 03:43:36,422
know we will need to manage more efficiently. We'll manage

2715
03:43:36,422 --> 03:43:39,225
more efficiently with a smaller workforce, but we have to do

2716
03:43:39,225 --> 03:43:42,825
that while minimizing layoffs. Next slide.

2717
03:43:44,697 --> 03:43:49,902
So specifics of the numbers. As I stated, 2627 budget. We see a

2718
03:43:49,902 --> 03:43:53,773
path to reducing that deficit from 80 to 10 through a variety

2719
03:43:53,773 --> 03:43:56,909
of revenue and revenue capture initiatives and cost

2720
03:43:56,909 --> 03:44:01,381
containment. Um, that doesn't change the long term fiscal

2721
03:44:01,381 --> 03:44:06,781
outlook, which is a cumulative $730 million deficit. Um, that

2722
03:44:07,654 --> 03:44:12,592
requires, um, really deep review and long term planning

2723
03:44:12,592 --> 03:44:18,197
to close. Next slide. So the specifics of what we're doing

2724
03:44:18,197 --> 03:44:20,599
in the medium term for cost containment and revenue and

2725
03:44:20,599 --> 03:44:23,803
productivity, we've identified initiatives that we believe

2726
03:44:23,803 --> 03:44:27,207
will yield $25 million of additional revenue immediately

2727
03:44:27,207 --> 03:44:30,943
through provider productivity and improved scheduling. Um,

2728
03:44:30,943 --> 03:44:36,750
that's not just at CCRC, that's at behavioral health in revenue

2729
03:44:36,750 --> 03:44:39,886
approaches that we're already seeing. We feel confident we

2730
03:44:39,886 --> 03:44:44,958
can hit these numbers. That includes restructuring of the

2731
03:44:44,958 --> 03:44:50,430
commercial plan, uh, run by our health. The health plan to both

2732
03:44:50,430 --> 03:44:54,300
rebalance the rates so that we're not incurring medical

2733
03:44:54,300 --> 03:45:00,507
expenses in excess of the of the member fees, as well as

2734
03:45:00,507 --> 03:45:05,450
improving access at Caremark. So we expect that another $15

2735
03:45:05,450 --> 03:45:09,115
million certain improvements for coding, billing and

2736
03:45:09,115 --> 03:45:12,519
credentialing to address denials, to address, to make

2737
03:45:12,519 --> 03:45:15,922
sure that we are pulling down revenue wherever we're entitled

2738
03:45:15,922 --> 03:45:19,792
to a reimbursement, expecting about $5 million and then

2739
03:45:19,792 --> 03:45:23,862
optimizing service lines and counting billing opportunities,

2740
03:45:23,862 --> 03:45:27,533
which primarily is detention billing, uh, enabled through

2741
03:45:27,533 --> 03:45:32,333
Kelly and Justice involved. That's those initiatives. We

2742
03:45:32,471 --> 03:45:35,274
expect about $50 million of additional revenue to be pulled

2743
03:45:35,274 --> 03:45:38,554
down. Um, and that's paired with certain cost containment

2744
03:45:38,554 --> 03:45:42,491
efforts. Um, most most importantly, with our health

2745
03:45:42,491 --> 03:45:45,227
plan, medical cost management. So really looking at

2746
03:45:45,227 --> 03:45:49,965
utilization and our provider contracts to find opportunities

2747
03:45:49,965 --> 03:45:54,503
for reducing and retaining services where they're being

2748
03:45:54,503 --> 03:45:58,907
provided out of our network, hiring, prioritization, um,

2749
03:45:58,907 --> 03:46:02,310
taking enterprise view before we do any new hiring to make

2750
03:46:02,310 --> 03:46:04,980
sure that's consistent with the with the organization's

2751
03:46:04,980 --> 03:46:09,185
priorities, it contract reductions, looking at our IT

2752
03:46:09,185 --> 03:46:12,655
contracts, finding opportunities to tighten our

2753
03:46:12,655 --> 03:46:17,726
belts, preserve services. But find it reduce reduce some of

2754
03:46:17,726 --> 03:46:20,462
our contract spending where we can. And then finally

2755
03:46:20,462 --> 03:46:23,462
restructuring community supports, identifying community

2756
03:46:23,866 --> 03:46:28,300
supports that don't have alternatives, making sure we're

2757
03:46:28,300 --> 03:46:30,939
focused on those we think that will yield about $1 million of

2758
03:46:30,939 --> 03:46:35,611
savings. So all told, that contributes $70 million in the

2759
03:46:35,611 --> 03:46:38,748
immediate term, leaving us with a 10 million expected $10

2760
03:46:38,748 --> 03:46:43,886
million deficit this year. Uh, the underlying $730 million for

2761
03:46:43,886 --> 03:46:48,424
maintenance. And just on the next slide, providing an

2762
03:46:48,424 --> 03:46:54,424
overview, as we've discussed previously, um, a lot of what

2763
03:46:54,697 --> 03:46:58,634
was in HR one was structured to take effect in a sort of

2764
03:46:58,634 --> 03:47:04,640
delayed fashion. That delay has come, and in the next 18 months

2765
03:47:04,640 --> 03:47:08,377
is really where the impact of HR one funding cuts,

2766
03:47:08,377 --> 03:47:12,581
restrictions on eligibility and other state budget changes take

2767
03:47:12,581 --> 03:47:17,520
effect. This slide gives you a timeline to just understand

2768
03:47:17,520 --> 03:47:21,323
what's happening over these 18 months. Um, certain highlights

2769
03:47:21,323 --> 03:47:25,527
January, this January coming work requirements and six month

2770
03:47:25,527 --> 03:47:28,997
renewals take effect. People will be moved out of Medi-Cal

2771
03:47:28,997 --> 03:47:33,680
eligibility, and that includes a state budget change that will

2772
03:47:33,680 --> 03:47:37,540
reduce what we expect about 47,000 residents to be moved

2773
03:47:37,540 --> 03:47:41,543
out of the managed health managed care, managed Medi-Cal

2774
03:47:41,543 --> 03:47:46,943
plan in July of 2027. Um, the reimbursement for that

2775
03:47:47,817 --> 03:47:52,555
population actually falls down to fee for service rates. So

2776
03:47:52,555 --> 03:47:57,292
that for any members still in Medi-Cal, they no longer are in

2777
03:47:57,292 --> 03:48:00,496
the plan. They no longer are reimbursed for at our primary

2778
03:48:00,496 --> 03:48:05,340
care costs, and we only receive about $0.10 on the dollar. In

2779
03:48:05,340 --> 03:48:09,638
October of 2027, our global payment program ends, which is

2780
03:48:09,638 --> 03:48:13,238
a program providing reimbursement for delivering

2781
03:48:14,777 --> 03:48:18,781
primary care and preventative services for the uninsured. And

2782
03:48:18,781 --> 03:48:23,251
that funding goes away. In October. And then ongoing in

2783
03:48:23,251 --> 03:48:27,189
January of 2028. Certain supplemental payments begin to

2784
03:48:27,189 --> 03:48:33,189
be reintroduced down to a Medicare rates. Um, that we

2785
03:48:33,195 --> 03:48:35,197
will give you the numbers on the next slide will have

2786
03:48:35,197 --> 03:48:39,770
dramatic impacts on our funding. Um, throughout it,

2787
03:48:39,770 --> 03:48:41,747
throughout all of these changes, we retain

2788
03:48:41,747 --> 03:48:44,550
responsibility at the county hospital for screening and

2789
03:48:44,550 --> 03:48:47,820
stabilizing everyone that comes in to receive care at the most

2790
03:48:47,820 --> 03:48:52,291
expensive, most intensive level of service. That responsibility

2791
03:48:52,291 --> 03:48:58,291
remains. But the specifics to the numbers, um, the global

2792
03:48:59,298 --> 03:49:03,635
payment program, which is the incentive program that

2793
03:49:03,635 --> 03:49:06,838
California agreed to with a waiver program in the with the

2794
03:49:06,838 --> 03:49:11,110
CMS, um, provides funding for primary and preventative care

2795
03:49:11,110 --> 03:49:15,460
for uninsured. We expect to lose a cumulative about $180

2796
03:49:15,460 --> 03:49:18,316
million. Other programs, including state directed

2797
03:49:18,316 --> 03:49:22,388
payment, federal support for emergency Care, Medi-Cal

2798
03:49:22,388 --> 03:49:26,391
enrollments. All told, we expect about 390 million

2799
03:49:26,391 --> 03:49:32,131
cumulative of reductions from those on the state side. The

2800
03:49:32,131 --> 03:49:36,535
and these are through 20. This is cumulative through 2030 31

2801
03:49:36,535 --> 03:49:41,335
on that number. Correct. And after 2031 we expect

2802
03:49:42,700 --> 03:49:45,877
everything to get better. No. We've limited the view to a

2803
03:49:45,877 --> 03:49:49,748
five year view. Um, but it certainly will continue.

2804
03:49:49,748 --> 03:49:53,485
That was me being sarcastic. I think it's just me trying to

2805
03:49:53,485 --> 03:49:58,156
remind people that we don't know what's coming after 2031,

2806
03:49:58,156 --> 03:50:04,295
but we're that's we don't could get any better or any worse.

2807
03:50:04,295 --> 03:50:07,966
But we know this is what we know at this point.

2808
03:50:07,966 --> 03:50:12,766
100% correct. These funding cuts have no indication that

2809
03:50:12,904 --> 03:50:15,641
they will be reversed. And so we would expect them to

2810
03:50:15,641 --> 03:50:19,440
continue.. And supervisors, if I could

2811
03:50:19,440 --> 03:50:22,848
just reiterate the point, we've come to you several times with

2812
03:50:22,848 --> 03:50:26,651
numbers that we're projecting. Right. So each time we've come

2813
03:50:26,651 --> 03:50:30,522
to you, that's been a moment in time. Right? And there have

2814
03:50:30,522 --> 03:50:33,659
been adjustments made in terms of the timing of some of these

2815
03:50:33,659 --> 03:50:36,729
things. There's been clarification from the feds in

2816
03:50:36,729 --> 03:50:40,532
the state about, you know, uh, when things are going to be

2817
03:50:40,532 --> 03:50:44,803
implemented, how they'll be implemented, and because of

2818
03:50:44,803 --> 03:50:49,600
that, um, these numbers change. And that's why we want to come

2819
03:50:49,600 --> 03:50:52,770
back to you with, with these updates. So just to be clear,

2820
03:50:52,770 --> 03:50:55,947
and we expect that will happen repeatedly as we go through

2821
03:50:55,947 --> 03:50:58,683
this process. And we'll keep coming back to you with the

2822
03:50:58,683 --> 03:51:01,552
best information we have based on the information we're

2823
03:51:01,552 --> 03:51:08,752
getting and based on math that Drew's team is doing so well.

2824
03:51:10,428 --> 03:51:14,320
So you can see the cumulative impacts state federal through

2825
03:51:14,320 --> 03:51:18,636
3031. But the bottom line to emphasize again, we will

2826
03:51:18,636 --> 03:51:22,374
continue to see people at the most expensive, most intensive

2827
03:51:22,374 --> 03:51:25,844
level of care at the hospital. That our obligation to do that

2828
03:51:25,844 --> 03:51:31,450
continues. The first impact from these cuts is the loss of

2829
03:51:31,450 --> 03:51:34,719
funding for our primary care network, and the ability to

2830
03:51:34,719 --> 03:51:38,919
provide primary and preventative services. Uh, next

2831
03:51:39,334 --> 03:51:41,536
next slide. Can I ask a question on this before you

2832
03:51:41,536 --> 03:51:45,340
move off the slide? So under on the state funding changes,

2833
03:51:45,340 --> 03:51:48,944
primary care reimbursement, 350 million people without verified

2834
03:51:48,944 --> 03:51:53,549
immigration status lose access to manage Medi-Cal. So here

2835
03:51:53,549 --> 03:51:57,686
we're talking we're not talking about people who will if they

2836
03:51:57,686 --> 03:52:00,422
drop in this category, who drop off, who can't re-enroll.

2837
03:52:00,422 --> 03:52:05,493
You're talking about this shift from, um, from basically

2838
03:52:05,493 --> 03:52:08,764
managed care to fee for service. Is that because I'm

2839
03:52:08,764 --> 03:52:11,633
trying to understand 100 million and the 350 because I

2840
03:52:11,633 --> 03:52:16,105
know this population is going to move to fee for service, and

2841
03:52:16,105 --> 03:52:19,374
that's going to cost us money. That's the $0.10 on the dollar.

2842
03:52:19,374 --> 03:52:22,978
Right? So what's this? Three the explain this. Trying to

2843
03:52:22,978 --> 03:52:27,649
understand the details of it of these two categories I think

2844
03:52:27,649 --> 03:52:33,550
it's a fluid I think candidly, the way that we've projected

2845
03:52:33,550 --> 03:52:38,527
here assumes that most of the members, most of the people

2846
03:52:38,527 --> 03:52:43,198
with unsatisfactory immigration status, first in January, are

2847
03:52:43,198 --> 03:52:47,736
moved out of the managed care plan, right. And then as we go

2848
03:52:47,736 --> 03:52:52,700
through each year, they because of premium requirements,

2849
03:52:52,700 --> 03:52:56,611
because of other disincentives to stay enrolled in Medicaid,

2850
03:52:56,611 --> 03:53:00,682
will lose access to even fee for service rates. So we've

2851
03:53:00,682 --> 03:53:04,886
modeled here that the bulk will lose access to Medi-Cal, um,

2852
03:53:04,886 --> 03:53:07,423
and through a variety of enrollment impacts. So that's

2853
03:53:07,423 --> 03:53:09,891
what I'm trying to understand, because we have a whole

2854
03:53:09,891 --> 03:53:13,162
separate discussion with the other that other department

2855
03:53:13,162 --> 03:53:16,631
that deals with eligibility and keeps people enrolled. And that

2856
03:53:16,631 --> 03:53:19,635
will be on, I guess, September 8th. Doctor Stuart's

2857
03:53:19,635 --> 03:53:24,239
presentation, because we don't want to yet accept that all

2858
03:53:24,239 --> 03:53:26,775
these folks are going to drop off because we're going to

2859
03:53:26,775 --> 03:53:30,779
hopefully be with the state's help and any funding we have,

2860
03:53:30,779 --> 03:53:35,184
investing more in the infrastructure to keep people

2861
03:53:35,184 --> 03:53:39,454
enrolled so that we don't lose the U.S population. I get it,

2862
03:53:39,454 --> 03:53:43,459
once they fall off, they can't re-enroll. So I guess it comes

2863
03:53:43,459 --> 03:53:48,330
down. This is why numbers I think are better as ranges.

2864
03:53:48,330 --> 03:53:54,470
These. It's an art is as much of a as a science here that how

2865
03:53:54,470 --> 03:53:57,606
many people. Our goal is to keep these individuals from

2866
03:53:57,606 --> 03:54:03,606
falling off. Um and so this 350 million, it assumes what

2867
03:54:05,613 --> 03:54:12,488
percent of you of UI's patients are are going to lose Medi-Cal.

2868
03:54:12,488 --> 03:54:15,424
What what's your assumption on this? Because that's key to

2869
03:54:15,424 --> 03:54:17,424
this number. So.

2870
03:54:19,494 --> 03:54:24,633
Um, assumptions are important here. Absolutely. I think the

2871
03:54:24,633 --> 03:54:31,233
the annual loss of UAS from this assumption, um, I would

2872
03:54:32,240 --> 03:54:36,912
need to get back and say, but I believe it's a 20% annually

2873
03:54:36,912 --> 03:54:41,328
losing 20%. Yes. But we don't want that to happen. That's the

2874
03:54:41,328 --> 03:54:44,798
whole point. And and right. The in fact, I think what we saw

2875
03:54:44,798 --> 03:54:49,598
some previous meetings is that the investment ineligibility

2876
03:54:49,937 --> 03:54:55,337
workers and family navigators and that infrastructure is less

2877
03:54:55,742 --> 03:55:00,213
expensive than paying for the cost here. In other words, if

2878
03:55:00,213 --> 03:55:03,417
we invest in keeping them on with more intense enrollment

2879
03:55:03,417 --> 03:55:07,220
and re enrollment efforts, that's going to cost us less

2880
03:55:07,220 --> 03:55:10,220
than paying this. The aftermath.

2881
03:55:10,758 --> 03:55:12,892
Supervisor, if I can just clarify one thing, because

2882
03:55:12,892 --> 03:55:15,495
we'll certainly work with the ESD and we're actively

2883
03:55:15,495 --> 03:55:18,966
collaborating with them to keep everybody enrolled in Medicaid

2884
03:55:18,966 --> 03:55:22,236
as much as possible. I think the thing that has changed

2885
03:55:22,236 --> 03:55:26,773
since we came to the board prior is that the state is

2886
03:55:26,773 --> 03:55:31,573
removing $47,500. I get it from managed care Medaid.

2887
03:55:31,779 --> 03:55:36,383
So that's 100 million. Yes. Well, but it also means that

2888
03:55:36,383 --> 03:55:39,786
even if those if that group stays on Medicaid, which is

2889
03:55:39,786 --> 03:55:43,657
important and helpful, that Medicaid reimbursement, this is

2890
03:55:43,657 --> 03:55:46,260
new from when we presented before that Medicaid

2891
03:55:46,260 --> 03:55:51,660
reimbursement is less is 90% less. Yeah. Yeah. So certainly

2892
03:55:52,466 --> 03:55:56,200
want to keep people on Medicaid. But my point is

2893
03:55:56,200 --> 03:55:59,720
that's the the difference in terms of those people dropping

2894
03:55:59,720 --> 03:56:02,409
off from a pure fiscal perspective, right, is only

2895
03:56:02,409 --> 03:56:04,809
that 10% reimbursement amount. is.

2896
03:56:04,878 --> 03:56:07,147
So is some of that reflected. So you.

2897
03:56:07,147 --> 03:56:11,351
Want 350 million as well as the 100 million. Then some of that,

2898
03:56:11,351 --> 03:56:14,421
some of that impact that you just explained is reflected in

2899
03:56:14,421 --> 03:56:20,421
the 350 million the impact of retaining the impact of the 90%

2900
03:56:20,961 --> 03:56:24,698
decrease in reimbursements, that is, in the managed

2901
03:56:24,698 --> 03:56:28,101
Medi-Cal line. So, so where we're saying people are

2902
03:56:28,101 --> 03:56:32,705
continuing, we have a visit. It used to be at the full rate,

2903
03:56:32,705 --> 03:56:35,976
the GPS rate, and now it's at the fee for service that's in

2904
03:56:35,976 --> 03:56:38,378
the managed Medicaid. That's in the that's the 100 million.

2905
03:56:38,378 --> 03:56:41,314
Correct. So then the 356, that's what I'm trying to

2906
03:56:41,314 --> 03:56:45,585
understand. What's the 350? It's the combined impact of our

2907
03:56:45,585 --> 03:56:50,385
assumptions on UAS accelerating out work requirements. Re

2908
03:56:50,790 --> 03:56:56,620
determinations, people losing access to coverage, as well as

2909
03:56:56,620 --> 03:56:59,650
certain impacts in the hospital as not no longer be. I get it,

2910
03:56:59,650 --> 03:57:02,469
but where are we spending the 350 then serving them in the

2911
03:57:02,469 --> 03:57:07,941
emergency rooms at added cost or. Yeah how are we? Where is

2912
03:57:07,941 --> 03:57:13,790
that 350 is or is is that also part of the 90% decrease?

2913
03:57:13,790 --> 03:57:16,149
You're saying the 100 million is the 90% decrease, right?

2914
03:57:16,149 --> 03:57:21,549
Correct. Got it. 350 represents our loss of reimbursement from

2915
03:57:22,155 --> 03:57:25,225
people fully dis enrolled. I'm still not clear what the 350

2916
03:57:25,225 --> 03:57:29,496
is. The 350 million provide all of the numbers. But okay,

2917
03:57:29,496 --> 03:57:33,433
basically the 350 is for people previously reimbursed who no

2918
03:57:33,433 --> 03:57:36,903
longer have Medi-Cal eligibility. People who still

2919
03:57:36,903 --> 03:57:40,924
retain Medi-Cal eligibility, the fee for service, the 90,

2920
03:57:40,924 --> 03:57:44,595
the 10% on the dollar. That's the 100 million. I guess the

2921
03:57:44,595 --> 03:57:49,400
question becomes for every, let's say, 10 million in an

2922
03:57:49,400 --> 03:57:54,800
investment in the eligibility infrastructure and add how much

2923
03:57:55,339 --> 03:57:59,476
avoided cost is there in this category? Do you see my point

2924
03:57:59,476 --> 03:58:02,346
that I think that's really important in a joint

2925
03:58:02,346 --> 03:58:06,350
presentation that you would both make? What's the avoided

2926
03:58:06,350 --> 03:58:11,289
cost of making that investment? See what I'm saying? 100%. We

2927
03:58:11,289 --> 03:58:14,759
would need to model that, but that would be moving from the

2928
03:58:14,759 --> 03:58:19,297
350 to the 100 to show, okay, they are retaining coverage. I

2929
03:58:19,297 --> 03:58:24,235
get if we're retaining it. Some of that 350 we will still incur

2930
03:58:24,235 --> 03:58:27,838
a loss in the managed Medi-Cal line. I get it, it'll shift

2931
03:58:27,838 --> 03:58:33,911
over to there. The question is, will it be as much C I see

2932
03:58:33,911 --> 03:58:37,181
Doctor Stewart back there. She's going to be presenting a

2933
03:58:37,181 --> 03:58:39,851
lot of this because the state is putting some money in the

2934
03:58:39,851 --> 03:58:43,454
budget to help us. And then we have local dollars we could

2935
03:58:43,454 --> 03:58:48,592
draw on. I mean, the only thing I would add is that dynamic of

2936
03:58:48,592 --> 03:58:54,265
shifting from 350 to the 100 is true for us, yes, but every

2937
03:58:54,265 --> 03:58:58,602
member that is satisfactory. Yes. Sis would not. That would.

2938
03:58:58,602 --> 03:59:01,405
That's right. You're like retention. We want to keep

2939
03:59:01,405 --> 03:59:05,760
those folks enrolled too, because we permanent residents,

2940
03:59:05,760 --> 03:59:08,412
citizens, all of that who are going to lose eligibility. We

2941
03:59:08,412 --> 03:59:12,349
talk a lot about U.S population, but every, you

2942
03:59:12,349 --> 03:59:14,952
know, folks who are citizens and permanent residents are

2943
03:59:14,952 --> 03:59:17,888
going to lose eligibility by not enrolling. And we want to

2944
03:59:17,888 --> 03:59:21,626
keep them on because they will be under the fixed, they will

2945
03:59:21,626 --> 03:59:25,496
be under managed care, not fee for service. So it especially

2946
03:59:25,496 --> 03:59:31,235
is worthwhile keeping them on. Got it. Okay, thanks for

2947
03:59:31,235 --> 03:59:37,235
divulging. Um, in letting me. Yeah. Those are the numbers.

2948
03:59:37,975 --> 03:59:43,247
Um, I want to also emphasize that these are lives that are

2949
03:59:43,247 --> 03:59:47,452
no longer being covered. So probably one slide. Previous,

2950
03:59:47,452 --> 03:59:52,852
um, we expect that these we, we have approximately 300,000

2951
03:59:53,991 --> 03:59:57,128
covered in managed Medi-Cal. That includes Kaiser. That's

2952
03:59:57,128 --> 04:00:01,399
all in the county. County residents. But you do realize

2953
04:00:01,399 --> 04:00:05,469
when you put single numbers, which I know are with the best

2954
04:00:05,469 --> 04:00:09,673
assumptions, you can make, that in a year or two from now, it

2955
04:00:09,673 --> 04:00:13,277
if our losses are different, whether it's more or less,

2956
04:00:13,277 --> 04:00:16,747
you'll get criticized for screwing up even though you

2957
04:00:16,747 --> 04:00:19,150
didn't. And we've seen this happen before.

2958
04:00:19,150 --> 04:00:22,152
Qualify it at the beginning of this presentation. Exactly.

2959
04:00:22,152 --> 04:00:25,423
Things change, right? They do. But the unfortunate

2960
04:00:25,423 --> 04:00:28,692
thing is that people seize on that and say, see, the health

2961
04:00:28,692 --> 04:00:31,950
department didn't know what they were talking about. Look

2962
04:00:31,950 --> 04:00:33,364
what their numbers weren't awful. And that's why ranges

2963
04:00:33,364 --> 04:00:35,632
are helpful. And we've talked about the fact

2964
04:00:35,632 --> 04:00:38,636
that, you know, with all of the uncertainty out there, people

2965
04:00:38,636 --> 04:00:42,659
really need to feel trusting. And so we're trying to provide

2966
04:00:42,659 --> 04:00:47,464
those numbers. But we're also trying to prepare for what we

2967
04:00:47,464 --> 04:00:50,734
need to do. The number of people that need care is not

2968
04:00:50,734 --> 04:00:55,138
going to change, or it could increase, particularly if other

2969
04:00:55,138 --> 04:00:58,809
areas of the state start to fail and they need to come our

2970
04:00:58,809 --> 04:01:02,613
direction. But the number of people are going to need to be

2971
04:01:02,613 --> 04:01:06,817
served. It's just how we're paid for it, or even if we're

2972
04:01:06,817 --> 04:01:11,955
paid for it is going to be the question.

2973
04:01:11,955 --> 04:01:18,228
Um, so. There is an importance on the one slide. Previous, um,

2974
04:01:18,228 --> 04:01:21,831
just want to hit this to make sure it's clear, in addition to

2975
04:01:21,831 --> 04:01:25,502
all of the dollars and cents that we're talking about, this

2976
04:01:25,502 --> 04:01:31,502
is 47,500 U.S lives being dis enrolled. I think we're

2977
04:01:33,420 --> 04:01:35,645
slightly out of sequence on the slides, but I'll just speak

2978
04:01:35,645 --> 04:01:37,645
extemporaneously. Advanced two.

2979
04:01:38,648 --> 04:01:43,530
Uh, if you could advance two slides, go back. Uh, perfect.

2980
04:01:43,530 --> 04:01:50,253
Thank you. Um, the and we, we expect up to 93,000 of, uh,

2981
04:01:51,194 --> 04:01:56,332
people losing coverage by 30, 30, 31. Um, and of course, as

2982
04:01:56,332 --> 04:01:59,402
people lose coverage, access to care, reimbursement for

2983
04:01:59,402 --> 04:02:04,202
services, care coordination, all are lost and preventable.

2984
04:02:04,741 --> 04:02:07,410
Illness and death are increasing in our county.

2985
04:02:07,410 --> 04:02:09,746
Financial exposures increasing. Is it the same number you've

2986
04:02:09,746 --> 04:02:12,215
talked about for a few months now? Up to 90.

2987
04:02:12,215 --> 04:02:13,950
That's right. That number hasn't changed. Number hasn't

2988
04:02:13,950 --> 04:02:15,552
changed. Again, our goal is to keep it

2989
04:02:15,552 --> 04:02:18,421
from. Being again this. Yeah. These

2990
04:02:18,421 --> 04:02:21,424
are estimates. And we'll keep coming back to you as we

2991
04:02:21,424 --> 04:02:25,695
update. But these are that that estimate has not changed..

2992
04:02:25,695 --> 04:02:31,695
All the pressure is going to be on Marla's department.

2993
04:02:31,835 --> 04:02:34,771
Five year outlook. Back to numbers. Um this shows

2994
04:02:34,771 --> 04:02:41,711
the year by year buildup of the 730 million. Um, and you'll see

2995
04:02:41,711 --> 04:02:45,515
there where that lands in our projected fund balance

2996
04:02:45,515 --> 04:02:50,315
position. Um, that it is unsustainable through after

2997
04:02:50,319 --> 04:02:55,192
2930, we will be in a negative deficit. And if we take no

2998
04:02:55,192 --> 04:02:59,662
action, some form of bailout would be required. Um, and so

2999
04:02:59,662 --> 04:03:04,401
it's really important now that we take our immediate planning,

3000
04:03:04,401 --> 04:03:08,672
2627, which has reduced the deficit to $10 million and

3001
04:03:08,672 --> 04:03:13,900
bring our attention to 27, 28. So we focus on closing,

3002
04:03:13,900 --> 04:03:15,812
continue to close the near-term deficit and prepare for the

3003
04:03:15,812 --> 04:03:21,812
long term structural changes that we know are needed. Um,

3004
04:03:22,485 --> 04:03:25,622
not going to spend a lot of time on these, but just so that

3005
04:03:25,622 --> 04:03:29,493
for the record, it's there are five year assumptions. What

3006
04:03:29,493 --> 04:03:34,965
went into the projection? Go immediately to the next slide.

3007
04:03:34,965 --> 04:03:38,168
That's an overview. Everything we've spoken about so far has

3008
04:03:38,168 --> 04:03:44,461
been Contra Costa Health wide. Um, as stated before, this is

3009
04:03:44,461 --> 04:03:47,330
first and foremost hitting our county hospital and clinics.

3010
04:03:47,330 --> 04:03:53,330
CCR, MC, um, the 2627 deficit for just CCRC is $20 million.

3011
04:03:55,473 --> 04:04:00,873
That's a five year cumulative deficit of $890 million. Um,

3012
04:04:01,479 --> 04:04:06,279
and 173 of state mandated capital costs are included.

3013
04:04:07,350 --> 04:04:12,750
What's your assumption about the Medi-Cal waiver? Uh, we

3014
04:04:13,424 --> 04:04:17,828
assume that revenue lines associated with the waiver,

3015
04:04:17,828 --> 04:04:23,167
such as GPP, are going away, and that we don't have

3016
04:04:23,167 --> 04:04:26,704
successor programs that reverts to the uncompensated care,

3017
04:04:26,704 --> 04:04:30,410
claiming. that it reflected all in here. Those assumptions of

3018
04:04:30,410 --> 04:04:34,512
because when is that then that waivers up this year or next

3019
04:04:34,512 --> 04:04:38,649
year? This year, I don't know. Correct. It ends um, in

3020
04:04:38,649 --> 04:04:42,853
December of 2026. But working with our state partners, we

3021
04:04:42,853 --> 04:04:45,790
expect that that will actually go through a temporary

3022
04:04:45,790 --> 04:04:51,195
extension to October 1st of 2027, at which point it will

3023
04:04:51,195 --> 04:04:54,665
end. And that's reflected in these amounts have built that

3024
04:04:54,665 --> 04:04:56,867
in. Yeah. No one expects the Trump administration is going

3025
04:04:56,867 --> 04:05:00,470
to, you know, give us anything favorable under the Medi-Cal

3026
04:05:00,470 --> 04:05:04,808
waiver. Correct. And what about for disproportionate share

3027
04:05:04,808 --> 04:05:10,681
hospital funding dish um, dish funding is assumed to revert.

3028
04:05:10,681 --> 04:05:15,419
So we will continue to be able to claim dish. Um, when GPP

3029
04:05:15,419 --> 04:05:20,691
goes away will revert to the old style of dish claiming, um,

3030
04:05:20,691 --> 04:05:24,761
that largely will be a no benefit. We will not receive

3031
04:05:24,761 --> 04:05:28,310
revenue from that because of offsets of other state

3032
04:05:28,310 --> 04:05:31,340
directives. All of that's in here just was just all built

3033
04:05:31,340 --> 04:05:35,839
into these assumptions. Um, the last point, one point to

3034
04:05:35,839 --> 04:05:41,239
emphasize here, just to call out this 890 exceeds the

3035
04:05:41,245 --> 04:05:46,450
enterprise wide 730, because we're able we're assuming one

3036
04:05:46,183 --> 04:05:49,787
of our key assumptions here is we will have flexibility to

3037
04:05:49,787 --> 04:05:54,858
redirect county subsidy to the parts of health that need it

3038
04:05:54,858 --> 04:05:58,328
the most, including CCRC. Really, where we're

3039
04:05:58,328 --> 04:06:04,135
experiencing the lion's share of our deficits. Um, which, you

3040
04:06:04,135 --> 04:06:07,400
know, Culberson is here to speak about how we're starting

3041
04:06:07,400 --> 04:06:10,604
to approach the long term planning.

3042
04:06:13,277 --> 04:06:15,612
Next slide please. Good afternoon.

3043
04:06:15,612 --> 04:06:17,281
Supervisors. Uh, yes.

3044
04:06:17,281 --> 04:06:20,818
I wanted to focus on Carmen Contra Costa Regional Medical

3045
04:06:20,818 --> 04:06:22,190
Center, which includes both the.

3046
04:06:22,190 --> 04:06:25,422
Hospital here in. Martinez as. Well as the clinics throughout

3047
04:06:25,422 --> 04:06:27,958
the county. Before I get started here, I just want to

3048
04:06:27,958 --> 04:06:28,759
make. Sure that.

3049
04:06:28,759 --> 04:06:31,495
You're truly Where you're all really aware

3050
04:06:31,495 --> 04:06:32,280
that. As.

3051
04:06:32,280 --> 04:06:34,980
We've heard earlier. It's going to be difficult.

3052
04:06:34,980 --> 04:06:38,898
with the operational and strategic presentation I have

3053
04:06:38,902 --> 04:06:42,173
here for us to make up the magnitude of the deficits.

3054
04:06:42,173 --> 04:06:44,641
We're currently facing. And that's over.

3055
04:06:44,641 --> 04:06:48,841
The next. Five year. Next slide please.

3056
04:06:49,713 --> 04:06:52,249
Just a little bit about our regional medical center. Of

3057
04:06:52,249 --> 04:06:55,653
course that includes the hospital as well as our

3058
04:06:55,653 --> 04:07:00,570
clinics. We see almost 38,000 or a little bit more than

3059
04:07:00,570 --> 04:07:05,195
38,000 patients a year on a primary care basis, which we

3060
04:07:05,195 --> 04:07:08,199
really do an awful lot of. In our clinic system, we see

3061
04:07:08,199 --> 04:07:12,602
roughly 2500 total patients a day in our clinic system. That

3062
04:07:12,602 --> 04:07:15,473
means roughly 1 in 5 of residents of our county

3063
04:07:15,473 --> 04:07:19,100
received their primary care at our clinics. We have 11

3064
04:07:19,100 --> 04:07:22,213
community health clinics throughout the nine locations

3065
04:07:22,213 --> 04:07:25,149
in the county, and I've got a map to indicate that for you.

3066
04:07:25,149 --> 04:07:28,352
But also I want to share with everyone that the psychiatric

3067
04:07:28,352 --> 04:07:32,689
emergency Services program, our department in Martinez is the

3068
04:07:32,689 --> 04:07:37,294
only 5150 receiving center throughout the county, so it's

3069
04:07:37,294 --> 04:07:41,631
serving all of the initial needs for folks that are either

3070
04:07:41,631 --> 04:07:44,501
danger to themselves, danger to others, or gravely disabled

3071
04:07:44,501 --> 04:07:48,705
that are identified as needing that emergent care. So we

3072
04:07:48,705 --> 04:07:52,776
really have a number of functions we perform at CCRC,

3073
04:07:52,776 --> 04:07:55,512
and we think it's really important to realize that any

3074
04:07:55,512 --> 04:08:00,450
reduction that we make at CCRC will limit the options for our

3075
04:08:00,450 --> 04:08:03,587
residents, again, because will probably be fewer in the

3076
04:08:03,587 --> 04:08:09,326
future. Next slide please. Just a little bit of background

3077
04:08:09,326 --> 04:08:12,796
here. This includes a map of our locations here. The

3078
04:08:12,796 --> 04:08:17,201
hospital in Martinez has 167 inpatient beds. That includes

3079
04:08:17,201 --> 04:08:21,205
the emergency department. Our psychiatric emergency services,

3080
04:08:21,205 --> 04:08:25,542
a labor and delivery obstetrics care. We deliver about 20% of

3081
04:08:25,542 --> 04:08:30,800
babies in the county, and also med surge and also. And in

3082
04:08:30,800 --> 04:08:33,617
addition, our psychiatric inpatient unit. So we are a

3083
04:08:33,617 --> 04:08:36,753
full service hospital really concentrated on primary care.

3084
04:08:36,753 --> 04:08:40,157
We're not tertiary or quaternary facility. We also

3085
04:08:40,157 --> 04:08:43,260
have in our ambulatory care network nine different

3086
04:08:43,260 --> 04:08:46,296
locations, ranging from Brentwood over to Richmond,

3087
04:08:46,296 --> 04:08:50,167
North Richmond, and there's 11 clinics. We concentrate on

3088
04:08:50,167 --> 04:08:54,171
primary care. We do have some specialty care. And of course,

3089
04:08:54,171 --> 04:08:56,907
our presence is really throughout the entire county

3090
04:08:56,907 --> 04:09:00,977
and the workforce is 2400 or more employees who are

3091
04:09:00,977 --> 04:09:06,377
dedicated to serving our county residents. Next slide please.

3092
04:09:07,784 --> 04:09:10,387
We laid out for you here. I know drew has talked a little

3093
04:09:10,387 --> 04:09:13,123
bit about some of the operational pieces we're

3094
04:09:13,123 --> 04:09:16,593
working on, but I wanted to really lay out for you on this

3095
04:09:16,593 --> 04:09:20,864
slide a strategic look at what we're doing. We've engaged

3096
04:09:20,864 --> 04:09:23,864
Alvarez and Marcella, nationally recognized

3097
04:09:23,933 --> 04:09:27,700
consulting firm in the health care field, to help us with

3098
04:09:27,700 --> 04:09:30,207
this project. So what you're seeing here is a working

3099
04:09:30,207 --> 04:09:33,877
document, but it really is a, I think, a solid look at

3100
04:09:33,877 --> 04:09:38,770
strategies we're considering here, both internally within

3101
04:09:38,820 --> 04:09:41,953
our health department as well as the from outside

3102
04:09:41,953 --> 04:09:45,423
organizations. And I want to concentrate really on all four.

3103
04:09:45,423 --> 04:09:48,426
But you can see we have the third column there in blue

3104
04:09:48,426 --> 04:09:52,300
highlighted in blue, a recommended path forward. We

3105
04:09:52,300 --> 04:09:56,340
think this is where we need to go strategically. It helps

3106
04:09:56,340 --> 04:10:00,638
continue to maintain critical access for medical, surgical as

3107
04:10:00,638 --> 04:10:04,242
well as psychiatric patients. But it does have some

3108
04:10:04,242 --> 04:10:07,712
additional costs associated. We wanted to also share with you.

3109
04:10:07,712 --> 04:10:11,316
We really took a look at four options, and I want to lay out

3110
04:10:11,316 --> 04:10:14,186
the other three for you just to realize this is part of the

3111
04:10:14,186 --> 04:10:17,588
strategic planning process we're doing. We took a look and

3112
04:10:17,588 --> 04:10:20,592
said, what happens if we're status quo from a service

3113
04:10:20,592 --> 04:10:23,928
perspective, from an operational perspective? And as

3114
04:10:23,928 --> 04:10:26,931
Drew and Doctor Colfax have laid out here, substantial

3115
04:10:26,931 --> 04:10:31,937
losses here, that would be faced at Caremark had we really

3116
04:10:31,937 --> 04:10:36,274
not do anything except just rely on current funding streams

3117
04:10:36,274 --> 04:10:40,110
and kind of a moderately slow approach to this. I don't think

3118
04:10:40,110 --> 04:10:43,681
anybody agrees that's the way to go. We then also looked at

3119
04:10:43,681 --> 04:10:47,351
what would happen if we really focused on behavioral health.

3120
04:10:47,351 --> 04:10:50,956
You know, we see roughly 40 behavioral health patients a

3121
04:10:50,956 --> 04:10:56,561
day in our inpatient unit. And up to 2025, and our psychiatric

3122
04:10:56,561 --> 04:10:59,965
emergency services. So if we would really take a single

3123
04:10:59,965 --> 04:11:03,568
specialty, focus on behavioral health, what would that do

3124
04:11:03,568 --> 04:11:06,505
here? What we certainly know that we could improve and

3125
04:11:06,505 --> 04:11:11,176
access through with some investment here on behavioral

3126
04:11:11,176 --> 04:11:15,580
health, but it really reduces the medical surgical access,

3127
04:11:15,580 --> 04:11:20,380
the obstetrics, the other medical surgical services the

3128
04:11:21,319 --> 04:11:24,923
hospital offers to the point really where Central County and

3129
04:11:24,923 --> 04:11:28,860
West County would have no other place for these services that

3130
04:11:28,860 --> 04:11:31,730
are currently offered. So we think that that was really not

3131
04:11:31,730 --> 04:11:35,660
too viable. And likewise, we think it's important for your

3132
04:11:35,660 --> 04:11:38,937
board to understand, in the event that we don't have a

3133
04:11:38,937 --> 04:11:43,341
turnaround process and we can't balance the gap that we're

3134
04:11:43,341 --> 04:11:46,477
faced here. What would closure look like now? Clearly, we are

3135
04:11:46,477 --> 04:11:50,820
not recommending this again. I hope I made it clear we're

3136
04:11:50,820 --> 04:11:52,351
recommending the multi-specialty approach, but

3137
04:11:52,351 --> 04:11:56,621
we do think it's important for you to understand that there is

3138
04:11:56,621 --> 04:12:01,421
an opportunity to focus extensively on ambulatory care,

3139
04:12:03,295 --> 04:12:09,234
and then stop reinvesting in the hospital. But again, the

3140
04:12:09,234 --> 04:12:13,370
that that does two things. One, it eliminates the psychiatric

3141
04:12:13,370 --> 04:12:16,240
access much of the way along the line. The behavioral health

3142
04:12:16,240 --> 04:12:19,711
single specialty approach. And it does completely eliminate

3143
04:12:19,711 --> 04:12:24,490
the access that I talked about here for specialty services.

3144
04:12:24,490 --> 04:12:27,786
Again, primarily in Central County and in West County. So

3145
04:12:27,786 --> 04:12:32,657
we don't think that's a real viable alternative. That leaves

3146
04:12:32,657 --> 04:12:35,193
the third column here. And that's our multi-specialty

3147
04:12:35,193 --> 04:12:38,930
approach where we really selectively choose the services

3148
04:12:38,930 --> 04:12:44,337
we offer, that we turn around and make sure that the supply

3149
04:12:44,337 --> 04:12:47,540
of what we're doing meets the patient demands. And with an

3150
04:12:47,540 --> 04:12:50,276
effort to restore some of the services we currently don't

3151
04:12:50,276 --> 04:12:54,214
offer or focus, it also allows us to focus on those that we

3152
04:12:54,214 --> 04:12:59,485
do, but we need to do in a more sustainable method. So next

3153
04:12:59,485 --> 04:13:03,880
slide please. I'm sorry. Can I ask a question. I mean,

3154
04:13:03,880 --> 04:13:08,940
all of this is very, very how do I say this reminds me of

3155
04:13:08,940 --> 04:13:11,163
what Doctors Hospital went through for about ten, 15 years

3156
04:13:11,163 --> 04:13:15,100
when we were all working to try to save doctors and and, you

3157
04:13:15,100 --> 04:13:17,703
know, the different service lines and what it would focus

3158
04:13:17,703 --> 04:13:20,839
on. Right. Except we're doing this in the context of now

3159
04:13:20,839 --> 04:13:25,110
we're predominantly a Medi-Cal health facility. Right. So this

3160
04:13:25,110 --> 04:13:27,713
is in the context of Medi-Cal. We're talking here.

3161
04:13:27,713 --> 04:13:28,981
Yes, predominantly. We're supervisor.

3162
04:13:28,981 --> 04:13:31,918
Yes. Right. And so our our

3163
04:13:31,918 --> 04:13:35,855
reimbursement rates for our clinics, because we're in FCPS

3164
04:13:35,855 --> 04:13:40,393
are high, give us a greater return on our dollar than our

3165
04:13:40,393 --> 04:13:44,263
expenditures at the hospital. So presumably just want to

3166
04:13:44,263 --> 04:13:48,467
clarify that. In other words, for every $10, let's say spent

3167
04:13:48,467 --> 04:13:52,205
in services at the clinic are $100, our reimbursement is

3168
04:13:52,205 --> 04:13:57,543
higher than for every $100 spent at the hospital. Is that

3169
04:13:57,543 --> 04:14:00,546
right or wrong? Yes. That's correct. The EFCC

3170
04:14:00,546 --> 04:14:03,215
model, which our clinics are the Federally Qualified Health

3171
04:14:03,215 --> 04:14:07,620
Center, basically is reimbursing us at costs. That's

3172
04:14:07,620 --> 04:14:10,489
not going to be true for the hospital, where we have a

3173
04:14:10,489 --> 04:14:12,425
number of services. I've always recalled being told

3174
04:14:12,425 --> 04:14:16,629
is, you know, we we make we're better at bringing in

3175
04:14:16,629 --> 04:14:18,765
reimbursements because of the way the reimbursement model

3176
04:14:18,765 --> 04:14:22,234
works for the services at the clinics, then at the hospital,

3177
04:14:22,234 --> 04:14:27,340
inpatient at the hospital, that outpatient reimbursements help

3178
04:14:27,640 --> 04:14:30,640
us more than inpatient reimbursements.

3179
04:14:31,710 --> 04:14:36,382
I would say that's true for a Medi-Cal member. Our GPS rate

3180
04:14:36,382 --> 04:14:42,121
reimburses us fully at cost. Um, it will vary depending on

3181
04:14:42,121 --> 04:14:44,590
the line of service, but in general, that's true at the

3182
04:14:44,590 --> 04:14:47,927
hospital, and it will certainly vary as more people are

3183
04:14:47,927 --> 04:14:50,929
enrolled out of Medi-Cal. So the devil's in the details.

3184
04:14:50,929 --> 04:14:53,399
Can you just give a little more flavor of what this means when

3185
04:14:53,399 --> 04:14:55,735
you say restore services the community currently seeks

3186
04:14:55,735 --> 04:14:59,539
elsewhere, restore critical services and give us an

3187
04:14:59,539 --> 04:15:02,808
example. What does that really mean? In in lay language?

3188
04:15:02,808 --> 04:15:05,210
Yes, supervisor, I think one of the biggest ones that I can

3189
04:15:05,210 --> 04:15:08,814
identify, both from a provider as well as community, would be

3190
04:15:08,814 --> 04:15:12,752
impatient. Dialysis. Right now, we don't offer inpatient

3191
04:15:12,752 --> 04:15:17,489
dialysis. A lot of our patients have long term chronic kidney

3192
04:15:17,489 --> 04:15:21,627
disease, and as such, dialysis would be required at least when

3193
04:15:21,627 --> 04:15:24,960
you're admitted to the hospital. We have to transfer

3194
04:15:24,960 --> 04:15:27,433
all of those patients out to other community hospitals. And

3195
04:15:27,433 --> 04:15:30,102
so that would be a basic service that we've gotten out

3196
04:15:30,102 --> 04:15:33,639
of. But we think it's really, really important to bring back

3197
04:15:33,639 --> 04:15:36,308
Libby. Another a number of other ones we're looking at.

3198
04:15:36,308 --> 04:15:39,645
And again, I've got a little bit more idea on how we're

3199
04:15:39,645 --> 04:15:42,784
going to do that here in the next couple of slides, but that

3200
04:15:42,784 --> 04:15:44,920
would be the real concrete one. Supervisor.

3201
04:15:44,920 --> 04:15:47,789
It seems over time you're going to be developing more detail on

3202
04:15:47,789 --> 04:15:49,925
this and come back. This is what I'd say. These are the

3203
04:15:49,925 --> 04:15:53,528
service lines. We see more emphasis and this will bring us

3204
04:15:53,528 --> 04:15:56,998
better reimbursement or more or more just generally more

3205
04:15:56,998 --> 04:15:59,200
revenue. Right? Yes. That's correct.

3206
04:15:59,200 --> 04:16:02,404
It's really our approach here. We want to bring back specific

3207
04:16:02,404 --> 04:16:04,605
actions for. I think we haven't done that

3208
04:16:04,605 --> 04:16:09,811
and enough or is vigilantly or disciplined enough not to be

3209
04:16:09,811 --> 04:16:12,214
critical of anything in the past. Do you think this

3210
04:16:12,214 --> 04:16:16,350
analysis hasn't been done? This is the first time I've seen

3211
04:16:16,350 --> 04:16:20,621
this level of detail to this type of issue. So do you think

3212
04:16:20,621 --> 04:16:24,426
it's something we just haven't looked at enough? The

3213
04:16:24,426 --> 04:16:27,362
collective we. Supervisor I think we are at a

3214
04:16:27,362 --> 04:16:29,964
point where this needs to be done. Right now, I really can't

3215
04:16:29,964 --> 04:16:33,568
comment about the past. I think the success of CCRC over the

3216
04:16:33,568 --> 04:16:38,173
last few years has been in the expansion and an optimization

3217
04:16:38,173 --> 04:16:41,243
of the Affordable Care Act, and now we're in a new era where

3218
04:16:41,243 --> 04:16:44,246
these these kind of discussions are necessary. I hope that

3219
04:16:44,246 --> 04:16:48,446
answers you. I think supervisors. just just

3220
04:16:49,717 --> 04:16:55,717
looking at the entire ecosystem of Contra Costa Health, given

3221
04:16:56,791 --> 04:17:02,396
the state and federal changes, we know that our health care

3222
04:17:02,396 --> 04:17:06,601
ecosystem is going to look different in 2031 than it does

3223
04:17:06,601 --> 04:17:10,605
now. So we're trying to figure out with community partners and

3224
04:17:10,605 --> 04:17:14,409
all of you, what are the essential things that we can

3225
04:17:14,409 --> 04:17:20,682
afford to sustain. And so that the the strategy that, um, CEO

3226
04:17:20,682 --> 04:17:23,819
Culberson is talking about to the of the hospital is, is is

3227
04:17:23,819 --> 04:17:31,619
part of that. And per the point that, um CFO Merl was making,

3228
04:17:32,160 --> 04:17:37,310
the hospital is driving a huge amount of cost to our system.

3229
04:17:37,310 --> 04:17:40,836
That's the, the, the graph that you showed where you see that

3230
04:17:40,836 --> 04:17:45,440
basically we're taking money even within Contra Costa Health

3231
04:17:45,440 --> 04:17:48,844
that we, you know, money from other parts of Contra Costa

3232
04:17:48,844 --> 04:17:52,380
Health to essentially subsidize the hospital. And as you can

3233
04:17:52,380 --> 04:17:55,500
see, the path forward with the state and federal changes is

3234
04:17:55,500 --> 04:17:58,253
not sustainable. So I want to be and I just to reinforce the

3235
04:17:58,253 --> 04:18:04,793
CEO person's point, even if the plan that his team is working

3236
04:18:04,793 --> 04:18:07,863
on with these expert consultants, even if that is

3237
04:18:07,863 --> 04:18:12,867
optimized, you know, in a way that is even if that is

3238
04:18:12,867 --> 04:18:16,872
optimized, we don't come close to closing that deficit and

3239
04:18:16,872 --> 04:18:18,807
we'll come back with those numbers. We don't have those to

3240
04:18:18,807 --> 04:18:20,275
share. Just trying to minimize it.

3241
04:18:20,275 --> 04:18:24,345
Yeah. Yes. One last question on this. So something that at

3242
04:18:24,345 --> 04:18:29,751
least is understandable is in real life, um, when we were at

3243
04:18:29,751 --> 04:18:32,821
JCC, when we would in the past look at a lot of the numbers of

3244
04:18:32,821 --> 04:18:36,558
where folks went, there were a lot. I'll just take my part of

3245
04:18:36,558 --> 04:18:40,965
the county in West County, many Medi-Cal moms had birth and

3246
04:18:40,965 --> 04:18:44,340
delivery at the county hospital. Some went to Alta

3247
04:18:44,340 --> 04:18:47,638
Bates or others. Is that like an example of where we'd say,

3248
04:18:47,638 --> 04:18:50,775
well, gee, we want to bring we want to continue to attract

3249
04:18:50,775 --> 04:18:53,844
more Medi-Cal birth and delivery into our county

3250
04:18:53,844 --> 04:18:57,314
hospital, as opposed to them going somewhere else. And then

3251
04:18:57,314 --> 04:19:00,117
we have to pay that other hospital. But we also want to

3252
04:19:00,117 --> 04:19:03,921
still maintain choice where residents can choose and not

3253
04:19:03,921 --> 04:19:07,991
limit be limited. But is that an example of something?

3254
04:19:07,991 --> 04:19:11,395
Because I saw a numbers about the number of birth and

3255
04:19:11,395 --> 04:19:14,532
deliveries, because there's not a hospital, and in West County

3256
04:19:14,532 --> 04:19:18,402
that's Medi-Cal, right? People go to Alta Bates or County

3257
04:19:18,402 --> 04:19:21,339
hospital. Supervisor Joya. Yes, that's

3258
04:19:21,339 --> 04:19:24,541
exactly the analysis we're performing. We're very lucky in

3259
04:19:24,541 --> 04:19:28,120
that we've got a very solid, very detailed business

3260
04:19:28,120 --> 04:19:30,881
intelligence unit that able to take a look at things. And

3261
04:19:30,881 --> 04:19:34,685
again, the external consultant we're using also, this is their

3262
04:19:34,685 --> 04:19:37,888
line of business to ask what are you delivering. What can

3263
04:19:37,888 --> 04:19:40,290
you deliver and what's going elsewhere.

3264
04:19:40,290 --> 04:19:45,290
And subsequent decisions were limiting. Let's say patient

3265
04:19:45,290 --> 04:19:48,698
choice. We may say you can only go to our facility for these

3266
04:19:48,698 --> 04:19:53,236
services, and you can't go out of our facility.

3267
04:19:53,236 --> 04:19:55,706
Yes. With the I'm not sure I understand your question.

3268
04:19:55,706 --> 04:19:58,410
I'm sorry. In other words, if right now someone in Medi-Cal

3269
04:19:58,410 --> 04:20:03,246
has a choice of where they go, um, we we we we would because

3270
04:20:03,246 --> 04:20:06,517
we have contracts with other hospitals to do services. It's

3271
04:20:06,517 --> 04:20:10,654
then limiting the contracts we may have with other hospitals.

3272
04:20:10,654 --> 04:20:13,457
That's going to be a decision through the health plan,

3273
04:20:13,457 --> 04:20:18,329
really, not as a CCRC proper, but we work very, very closely

3274
04:20:18,329 --> 04:20:20,664
with, again. The benefit hitting there. So

3275
04:20:20,664 --> 04:20:22,332
yes. We're very lucky to have the

3276
04:20:22,332 --> 04:20:25,200
integrated delivery system we do. So we work very closely

3277
04:20:25,200 --> 04:20:26,470
with them. On. I mean, the classic case

3278
04:20:26,470 --> 04:20:30,941
was when Supervisor Glover, who was who the CHP, not Medi-Cal,

3279
04:20:30,941 --> 04:20:35,212
but CHP, had his heart and kidney transplant at UC San

3280
04:20:35,212 --> 04:20:37,347
Francisco, because we have a contract and they're

3281
04:20:37,347 --> 04:20:40,618
specialists, that's where we go. But we see CHP may have

3282
04:20:40,618 --> 04:20:45,690
other contracts that it would maybe end to bring back folks

3283
04:20:45,690 --> 04:20:49,493
to get their care in our system. Right. That's so that

3284
04:20:49,493 --> 04:20:53,970
limits choice. But it may be better overall for us.

3285
04:20:53,970 --> 04:20:55,497
Absolutely. Yes. That's correct.

3286
04:20:55,899 --> 04:20:59,169
Thanks. If we could just go back to

3287
04:20:59,169 --> 04:21:01,638
that one slide there with the four options. I just want to

3288
04:21:01,638 --> 04:21:05,376
finish that slide and then we'll go on to the next one.

3289
04:21:05,376 --> 04:21:07,111
This one. Just a little bit.

3290
04:21:07,111 --> 04:21:10,470
There we go. Just again wanted to make sure our recommendation

3291
04:21:10,470 --> 04:21:13,316
here is that we really focus on this multi-specialty approach.

3292
04:21:13,316 --> 04:21:16,520
Concentrating on the services that we offer. Which ones can

3293
04:21:16,520 --> 04:21:21,658
we get into fairly quickly. Uh, and also really based on demand

3294
04:21:21,658 --> 04:21:24,661
and supply here. Uh, again, we think that's really important

3295
04:21:24,661 --> 04:21:27,264
to maintain access throughout the county for county

3296
04:21:27,264 --> 04:21:33,264
residents. Next slide please. We really have adopted a three

3297
04:21:35,406 --> 04:21:38,742
pronged approach. We want to make sure you're aware of your

3298
04:21:38,742 --> 04:21:43,870
advocacy. Focus on clinical activities as well as improving

3299
04:21:43,870 --> 04:21:46,356
the financial performance, many of which drew had mentioned

3300
04:21:46,356 --> 04:21:50,227
earlier here, the advocacy. We think it's really important we

3301
04:21:50,227 --> 04:21:54,365
are here. We our goal is to help minimize and reverse the

3302
04:21:54,365 --> 04:21:58,769
harmful effects of HR one, the the act that we're working on

3303
04:21:58,769 --> 04:22:03,373
here passed in July of 2025. We think there needs to be

3304
04:22:03,373 --> 04:22:06,243
sustainable state funding. And so we'll continue to work with

3305
04:22:06,243 --> 04:22:09,713
your board as well as our elected officials at the state

3306
04:22:09,713 --> 04:22:13,317
and federal level to improve that. We talked a little bit

3307
04:22:13,317 --> 04:22:17,254
about a focus on our clinical services growing strategically,

3308
04:22:17,254 --> 04:22:21,659
focusing primarily on our acute primary care psychiatry and

3309
04:22:21,659 --> 04:22:24,528
some of the smaller some of the smaller volume of other

3310
04:22:24,528 --> 04:22:27,598
services we don't offer here. The goal is to make sure that

3311
04:22:27,598 --> 04:22:31,201
we improve access to our community. And then, as drew

3312
04:22:31,201 --> 04:22:33,871
mentioned, that we continue to focus on our financial

3313
04:22:33,871 --> 04:22:37,341
performance here, on our revenue side and our revenue

3314
04:22:37,341 --> 04:22:40,610
cycle side, and also on our expense management. We wanted

3315
04:22:40,610 --> 04:22:43,881
to also highlight we think it's really important for greater

3316
04:22:43,881 --> 04:22:48,685
flexibility on our staffing as well as our supply costs to go

3317
04:22:48,685 --> 04:22:53,240
along and balance closer to volumes as they increase, or as

3318
04:22:53,240 --> 04:22:56,960
a decrease. Your a more flexible approach to our

3319
04:22:56,960 --> 04:23:00,431
expense management. We think that's pretty important. And as

3320
04:23:00,431 --> 04:23:04,168
I think all three of us had shared with you earlier here,

3321
04:23:04,168 --> 04:23:07,638
even with these major clinical financial improvements, the

3322
04:23:07,638 --> 04:23:11,708
changes in the state and federal funding are so dramatic

3323
04:23:11,708 --> 04:23:15,446
that it's going to be needed. We'll need additional federal

3324
04:23:15,446 --> 04:23:19,500
policy changes in funding to make sure we maintain the

3325
04:23:19,500 --> 04:23:25,500
sustainability of CCR. MC next slide. Again, what we're doing

3326
04:23:27,257 --> 04:23:30,527
here again, both internally as well as with our external

3327
04:23:30,527 --> 04:23:33,263
consultant doing some analyzing, we're learning and

3328
04:23:33,263 --> 04:23:36,934
we're going to make sure we take some information. What

3329
04:23:36,934 --> 04:23:40,204
we're trying to analyze really is really demand here. What are

3330
04:23:40,204 --> 04:23:43,874
our our patient referrals both within and with outside the

3331
04:23:43,874 --> 04:23:47,110
county. We have a number of services that Contra Costa

3332
04:23:47,110 --> 04:23:50,614
Regional offers, a number of that are handled here within

3333
04:23:50,614 --> 04:23:55,285
the county and other partners and other providers, and then

3334
04:23:55,285 --> 04:23:57,955
some that are leaving our community completely and going

3335
04:23:57,955 --> 04:24:00,690
over to the Peninsula, maybe the South Bay. So we're

3336
04:24:00,690 --> 04:24:04,829
evaluating what type of referrals are made, and that's

3337
04:24:04,829 --> 04:24:08,499
an important one because we're trying to determine demand. We

3338
04:24:08,499 --> 04:24:11,234
also work closely with the health plan and to determine

3339
04:24:11,234 --> 04:24:15,105
where are they sending plan. To patients. Again, it's something

3340
04:24:15,105 --> 04:24:18,174
that is really important as we work on that third part,

3341
04:24:18,174 --> 04:24:21,512
they're demanding or taking a look at our current and future

3342
04:24:21,512 --> 04:24:25,716
demand. And our clinic capacity. Some areas we have no

3343
04:24:25,716 --> 04:24:30,720
capacity. In some places we do an extension of hours at night,

3344
04:24:30,720 --> 04:24:34,658
may help on the weekends, may help access. But in some of our

3345
04:24:34,658 --> 04:24:37,995
other areas, we don't have quite as much as we might need.

3346
04:24:37,995 --> 04:24:40,798
So that's why we're working on currently. Really, what would

3347
04:24:40,798 --> 04:24:44,142
be the demand? So again, what we're trying to learn learn

3348
04:24:44,142 --> 04:24:48,120
then is really where demand exceeds the supply of our

3349
04:24:48,120 --> 04:24:51,816
available services. What what are where are we at where we do

3350
04:24:51,816 --> 04:24:56,200
have capacity. Where we have capacity. That is available

3351
04:24:56,200 --> 04:24:59,224
maybe not utilized. What can we do from an operational

3352
04:24:59,224 --> 04:25:03,895
perspective to fill those empty appointment slots? And then

3353
04:25:03,895 --> 04:25:08,990
what services should we really grow? Could we change? Or in

3354
04:25:08,990 --> 04:25:11,636
some instances reductions here? I think it's it's important to

3355
04:25:11,636 --> 04:25:15,239
realize this is not a pure growth strategy. This is really

3356
04:25:15,239 --> 04:25:18,243
taking a look as a balanced strategy, growth,

3357
04:25:18,243 --> 04:25:22,180
sustainability and reduction as necessary. So again, we're

3358
04:25:22,180 --> 04:25:24,849
going to come back from what the information that we gather

3359
04:25:24,849 --> 04:25:28,520
here to concentrate on what services we believe are

3360
04:25:28,520 --> 04:25:31,789
priorities. Here. We'll have some implementation timelines

3361
04:25:31,789 --> 04:25:34,793
including accountabilities. When can we expect these

3362
04:25:34,793 --> 04:25:38,596
programs to be up and running. The amount of capital that's

3363
04:25:38,596 --> 04:25:43,134
required here that you're well aware MC requires capital, not

3364
04:25:43,134 --> 04:25:46,271
just for our seismic project. That's about ready to kick off

3365
04:25:46,271 --> 04:25:50,742
here, but just about everything we do diagnostic imaging, um,

3366
04:25:50,742 --> 04:25:54,545
ventilators all require capital investment. And with that, both

3367
04:25:54,545 --> 04:25:58,616
of the all of the actions here, the implementation, the capital

3368
04:25:58,616 --> 04:26:02,353
really what are the expected clinical and financial impacts?

3369
04:26:02,353 --> 04:26:05,220
What are the improvements we're going to see to our patients

3370
04:26:05,220 --> 04:26:08,260
from a clinical and from a service perspective? And what

3371
04:26:08,260 --> 04:26:11,629
is the return that we can expect for the investment and

3372
04:26:11,629 --> 04:26:14,365
the effort that we're making here at Contra Costa Regional

3373
04:26:14,365 --> 04:26:20,505
Medical Center? I think we're on to the next slide, please.

3374
04:26:20,505 --> 04:26:24,375
There we go. So thank you. And just as our

3375
04:26:24,375 --> 04:26:28,379
last slide in terms of next steps, we will advance the plan

3376
04:26:28,379 --> 04:26:33,118
and execute on uh, short term the 2627 balancing plan and

3377
04:26:33,118 --> 04:26:36,788
continue to refine the long term delivery system strategy

3378
04:26:36,788 --> 04:26:41,325
focused on CCRC monitoring progress and returning to you

3379
04:26:41,325 --> 04:26:44,662
all with financial and implementation updates. Working

3380
04:26:44,662 --> 04:26:47,465
with the board in the county administrator's office to

3381
04:26:47,465 --> 04:26:50,935
evaluate options and make key policy decisions, and ensuring

3382
04:26:50,935 --> 04:26:55,339
that we have robust stakeholder engagement with employees,

3383
04:26:55,339 --> 04:26:58,543
unions, providers and community partners as implementation

3384
04:26:58,543 --> 04:27:02,146
continues. Thank you very much. I want to also appreciate the

3385
04:27:02,146 --> 04:27:05,216
entire Contra Costa Health team who worked very hard on this

3386
04:27:05,216 --> 04:27:10,160
presentation. Thank you. Thank you. I think sometimes

3387
04:27:10,355 --> 04:27:15,292
people, uh, think of this as government because this is the

3388
04:27:15,292 --> 04:27:22,492
county hospital. But the people that work in this do this work

3389
04:27:22,700 --> 04:27:25,837
are also professionals. Their nurses, they're doctors,

3390
04:27:25,837 --> 04:27:29,307
they're technicians, and they're administrators that

3391
04:27:29,307 --> 04:27:34,446
have to know how to do this work. So when we are looking at

3392
04:27:34,446 --> 04:27:37,248
this, we're looking at this very similar to what other

3393
04:27:37,248 --> 04:27:42,386
hospital systems are looking at as well. Um, if people are

3394
04:27:42,386 --> 04:27:45,664
interested in really kind of understanding this, it might be

3395
04:27:45,664 --> 04:27:49,868
good for them to look up what Medicaid is, what the

3396
04:27:49,868 --> 04:27:54,674
difference is between Medicaid and Medicare. What, uh, covered

3397
04:27:54,674 --> 04:27:59,879
California is versus, you know, these other things. Um, because

3398
04:27:59,879 --> 04:28:02,682
those are questions I'd ask. But I don't want to, you know,

3399
04:28:02,682 --> 04:28:07,820
it it would go on forever. But I do think that this is a

3400
04:28:07,820 --> 04:28:12,892
system that is part of a bigger system. And, um, I read an

3401
04:28:12,892 --> 04:28:19,165
article the other day that said that UC Berkeley Labor Center,

3402
04:28:19,165 --> 04:28:23,703
uh, estimates that the number of uninsured Californians will

3403
04:28:23,703 --> 04:28:29,103
go from 2.4 to 4.6 million as recently enacted. State and

3404
04:28:30,843 --> 04:28:34,713
federal cuts to Medicaid and the ACA marketplace begin to

3405
04:28:34,713 --> 04:28:40,520
roll. Um, this was an analysis done in May. They said this

3406
04:28:40,520 --> 04:28:44,524
anticipated rise in the uninsured population could have

3407
04:28:44,524 --> 04:28:48,861
broad implications for hospital systems, insurers and the

3408
04:28:48,861 --> 04:28:53,661
economy. It could impact 200,000 jobs in California. And

3409
04:28:54,600 --> 04:28:59,739
I say that because while we're looking at our system, we're

3410
04:28:59,739 --> 04:29:03,209
part of a bigger system in the county. And so when we look at

3411
04:29:03,209 --> 04:29:06,790
John Muir and we look at Kaiser and we look at Sutter and we

3412
04:29:06,790 --> 04:29:09,882
look at our other clinic system, we are all in this

3413
04:29:09,882 --> 04:29:15,621
together. And so some of the recommendations that you are

3414
04:29:15,621 --> 04:29:19,759
talking about, do those have negative or positive impacts on

3415
04:29:19,759 --> 04:29:25,759
the rest of the system? Well, I appreciate this and

3416
04:29:26,165 --> 04:29:28,300
thank you, supervisor. And you're right, we're all in this

3417
04:29:28,300 --> 04:29:33,906
together. Right. So I think overall the state and federal

3418
04:29:33,906 --> 04:29:38,845
changes while they most acutely affect our ability to deliver

3419
04:29:38,845 --> 04:29:43,249
care. And John Muir which also provides substantial care to to

3420
04:29:43,249 --> 04:29:48,187
Medicaid. So that's the program for low income Californians.

3421
04:29:48,187 --> 04:29:51,724
Um, it's going to affect all of our systems because as more

3422
04:29:51,724 --> 04:29:54,393
people lose coverage, people will go to emergency rooms,

3423
04:29:54,393 --> 04:29:58,798
whether it's Kaiser Sutter, John Muir or our own CCRC. And,

3424
04:29:58,798 --> 04:30:02,334
um, likely be sicker because they will not have had access

3425
04:30:02,334 --> 04:30:06,806
to, to primary care. Um, so that's a huge human cost. And

3426
04:30:06,806 --> 04:30:10,342
then there's also the fact that there will be very limited, if

3427
04:30:10,342 --> 04:30:14,546
at all, ability to, um, reimburse the systems for that

3428
04:30:14,546 --> 04:30:17,683
care. I would also add to your point, as people lose their

3429
04:30:17,683 --> 04:30:22,200
coverage, one of the things our estimates do not include here

3430
04:30:22,200 --> 04:30:27,359
is the cost of, um, providing a basic health care program. So

3431
04:30:27,359 --> 04:30:30,429
we're coming to the board in October with that. But there

3432
04:30:30,429 --> 04:30:33,566
are costs associated with that that are not included in these

3433
04:30:33,566 --> 04:30:36,969
estimates. And to your point, you're also, um, you know,

3434
04:30:36,969 --> 04:30:40,639
every county and especially every county with a public

3435
04:30:40,639 --> 04:30:45,177
hospital in California, um, is we're all in the same boat. And

3436
04:30:45,177 --> 04:30:49,195
our conversations were obviously talking a lot and

3437
04:30:49,195 --> 04:30:53,665
working to do the best we can. But this is all about, um,

3438
04:30:53,665 --> 04:30:57,537
surviving at this point for a time that, that for, for times

3439
04:30:57,537 --> 04:31:01,340
that that hopefully will be better in the future.

3440
04:31:01,340 --> 04:31:07,213
And they are these according to this article, uh, experts warn

3441
04:31:07,213 --> 04:31:11,950
that health plans will need to raise their premiums and that,

3442
04:31:11,950 --> 04:31:15,688
uh, we will be left with people that on average, will be sicker

3443
04:31:15,688 --> 04:31:22,288
and more expensive to serve. All right. Um, right. To do

3444
04:31:23,296 --> 04:31:26,832
this. No, I was going to say we'll make some comments and

3445
04:31:26,832 --> 04:31:30,503
then we're going to do public comment. And then just for

3446
04:31:30,503 --> 04:31:33,506
those that are joining us for the other options, we're going

3447
04:31:33,506 --> 04:31:37,977
to take a quick lunch after this. So if you are here and

3448
04:31:37,977 --> 04:31:41,914
you're hungry then you can go get lunch right now and we'll

3449
04:31:41,914 --> 04:31:45,384
be back. But I just wanted to kind of give that warning. So

3450
04:31:45,384 --> 04:31:47,386
go ahead. Diane said something I thought

3451
04:31:47,386 --> 04:31:52,791
that was really important and that's that, you know, we're in

3452
04:31:52,791 --> 04:31:56,129
a hospital system that, you know, we're in a different

3453
04:31:56,129 --> 04:32:00,333
market than just county government. Um, and, and, and

3454
04:32:00,333 --> 04:32:05,738
we face this all the time with HR hiring operations that we're

3455
04:32:05,738 --> 04:32:09,208
competing not just with other counties. We're competing with

3456
04:32:09,208 --> 04:32:13,408
other hospitals, nonprofit, private and government. Right.

3457
04:32:13,546 --> 04:32:16,482
And I was looking looking eight. There's only 8% of the

3458
04:32:16,482 --> 04:32:20,820
hospitals in California are local public hospitals, yet

3459
04:32:20,820 --> 04:32:25,825
they handle 36% of the Medi-Cal and uninsured population. So

3460
04:32:25,825 --> 04:32:30,960
the that responsibility is falling on us, which is even a

3461
04:32:30,960 --> 04:32:34,320
more expensive population to serve. And so one of the things

3462
04:32:34,320 --> 04:32:36,703
you didn't mention that I think is important, I know we worked

3463
04:32:36,703 --> 04:32:41,574
on this a couple of years ago at joint Conference was how the

3464
04:32:41,574 --> 04:32:45,444
structure of working within county government can be made

3465
04:32:45,444 --> 04:32:49,782
more flexible, so you are more nimble and competitive and

3466
04:32:49,782 --> 04:32:53,520
effective and efficient. Perfect example. It was taking

3467
04:32:53,520 --> 04:32:59,125
us double the amount of time to hire nurses than Kaiser Y.

3468
04:32:59,125 --> 04:33:02,729
Because of our various, you know, within county government

3469
04:33:02,729 --> 04:33:06,465
structure. I've said this before, it's one of my favorite

3470
04:33:06,465 --> 04:33:11,604
topics is that HR at the county level needs to be more

3471
04:33:11,604 --> 04:33:15,741
flexible. You have your own HR department, right? There's

3472
04:33:15,741 --> 04:33:20,279
there's 12 of the 58 counties, have a hospital there, you

3473
04:33:20,279 --> 04:33:23,749
know, and and you're you're competing with other systems

3474
04:33:23,749 --> 04:33:27,153
that don't have the same sort of rigid structures that county

3475
04:33:27,153 --> 04:33:30,356
government has. So when I hear an HR person say, well, this

3476
04:33:30,356 --> 04:33:32,691
is, you know, this is how it is in county government, I don't

3477
04:33:32,691 --> 04:33:35,228
care how it is in county government, I care how it is in

3478
04:33:35,228 --> 04:33:37,697
other hospitals. We're competing against because we

3479
04:33:37,697 --> 04:33:40,499
are. And this this was something that happened even

3480
04:33:40,499 --> 04:33:42,769
with public works and real estate. There was this very

3481
04:33:42,769 --> 04:33:46,530
stupid approach which they stopped, which was, gee, if I

3482
04:33:46,530 --> 04:33:48,521
get a request to fix the elevator and the county

3483
04:33:48,521 --> 04:33:52,590
administration building before I get the request to fix it at

3484
04:33:52,590 --> 04:33:54,194
the hospital, I'm going to go there because I got the request

3485
04:33:54,194 --> 04:33:57,397
first. Even though the licensing issues were at risk

3486
04:33:57,397 --> 04:34:01,100
for the hospital. So those kind of things I know have been

3487
04:34:01,100 --> 04:34:07,100
fixed, but those those rigid structures remain, and I think

3488
04:34:08,208 --> 04:34:12,212
I want to hear more about how the board can help in

3489
04:34:12,212 --> 04:34:15,882
flexibility. So you are a competitive hospital still with

3490
04:34:15,882 --> 04:34:20,353
their civil service rules, still with but more flexibility

3491
04:34:20,353 --> 04:34:24,357
so that you can be more efficient and effective. And I

3492
04:34:24,357 --> 04:34:27,628
know you didn't cover that here. And and I don't know, I

3493
04:34:27,628 --> 04:34:31,965
want to be able to hear from county HR and your department.

3494
04:34:31,965 --> 04:34:35,168
What's the progress we're making on hiring nurses faster

3495
04:34:35,168 --> 04:34:37,704
and more so we get the best talent? It's not just nurses,

3496
04:34:37,704 --> 04:34:44,440
right? It's other categories. Um, and where we we have to be

3497
04:34:44,440 --> 04:34:47,981
able to respond to the market and compete.

3498
04:34:47,981 --> 04:34:50,850
And supervisor, can I just say that, you know, we really

3499
04:34:50,850 --> 04:34:54,254
appreciate that point because I think one of the things that

3500
04:34:54,254 --> 04:34:58,392
the future signals to us is we need to have the ability to be

3501
04:34:58,392 --> 04:35:02,729
even more flexible and agile than, you know, is currently

3502
04:35:02,729 --> 04:35:06,533
possible. Um, so we'll be happy to bring you and your

3503
04:35:06,533 --> 04:35:10,404
colleagues, you know, examples of where the major push points

3504
04:35:10,404 --> 04:35:12,205
are. Please let us know. I mean, you

3505
04:35:12,205 --> 04:35:16,743
know, even the UC hospital system isn't run by the the

3506
04:35:16,743 --> 04:35:20,347
same rules that that run the hiring of professors at UC

3507
04:35:20,347 --> 04:35:24,751
Berkeley. Right. It's it's a hospital structure. So it's

3508
04:35:24,751 --> 04:35:27,688
it's you can still be public, do great work, but have more

3509
04:35:27,688 --> 04:35:30,623
flexibility. And I think what this

3510
04:35:30,623 --> 04:35:34,930
presentation demonstrated is that they have been looking at

3511
04:35:34,930 --> 04:35:38,231
ways to improve revenue and how to decrease costs. And I think

3512
04:35:38,231 --> 04:35:41,168
optimizing things is what their intention is, and they will be

3513
04:35:41,168 --> 04:35:45,572
bringing that back. Um, I do want to go to public comment on

3514
04:35:45,572 --> 04:35:49,410
this. If my colleagues are okay with that. All right.

3515
04:35:49,410 --> 04:35:51,845
We do have a comment in chambers. If there are any

3516
04:35:51,845 --> 04:35:54,781
callers or zoom participants. Who would like to.

3517
04:35:54,781 --> 04:35:58,852
Speak on Contra Costa Health fiscal outlook and long term

3518
04:35:58,852 --> 04:36:02,455
planning, please press pound two if you're on the phone or

3519
04:36:02,455 --> 04:36:06,593
raise your hand in the zoom app, and we will start with our

3520
04:36:06,593 --> 04:36:09,863
comment in chambers. And that is Mariana. Please come to the

3521
04:36:09,863 --> 04:36:13,463
podium. Good afternoon. It's been a

3522
04:36:22,275 --> 04:36:25,110
while since I spent a long day with you. Um, nice to see you

3523
04:36:25,110 --> 04:36:27,814
all. So I just have three quick points to make today. I'm

3524
04:36:27,814 --> 04:36:31,170
Mariana Morris. Ensuring opportunity also with the one

3525
04:36:31,170 --> 04:36:34,287
Contra Costa coalition. I want to start by saying thank you to

3526
04:36:34,287 --> 04:36:38,291
Doctor Colfax and his team. Um, I appreciate the transparency

3527
04:36:38,291 --> 04:36:41,561
and the care that this analysis is being done with. And I

3528
04:36:41,561 --> 04:36:44,831
appreciate and look forward to the repeated updating. And as

3529
04:36:44,831 --> 04:36:48,183
we all learn together, I also appreciate him and especially

3530
04:36:48,183 --> 04:36:51,786
Luana Martin, for convening and holding space for this new

3531
04:36:51,786 --> 04:36:54,590
community partnership. It's a really good move. There's a lot

3532
04:36:54,590 --> 04:36:57,459
of community based expertise that can join with county

3533
04:36:57,459 --> 04:37:00,328
expertise to figure things out in a very difficult

3534
04:37:00,328 --> 04:37:02,330
environment. So I just want to say thank you and looking

3535
04:37:02,330 --> 04:37:06,100
forward to that process. Continuing. Secondly, speaking

3536
04:37:06,100 --> 04:37:10,739
of expertise, there's a lot of expertise in the community that

3537
04:37:10,739 --> 04:37:16,770
can help, um, not solve the enormous deficit, but can work

3538
04:37:16,770 --> 04:37:18,680
around the edges to save the county money and provide

3539
04:37:18,680 --> 04:37:23,351
trusted access to help folks stay enrolled. We saw that with

3540
04:37:23,351 --> 04:37:25,553
carers. We're seeing it now with basic health care, with

3541
04:37:25,553 --> 04:37:29,230
these tiny, nascent programs. So the more investments you

3542
04:37:29,230 --> 04:37:32,227
make in community can help both the folks that we all care

3543
04:37:32,227 --> 04:37:34,763
about in that community and can help save the county some

3544
04:37:34,763 --> 04:37:38,900
funds. And I think every dollar counts right now. Lastly,

3545
04:37:38,900 --> 04:37:41,570
Doctor Colfax talked about the clinical impact and the

3546
04:37:41,570 --> 04:37:45,173
financial impact. And then you did Doctor Colfax. At the end

3547
04:37:45,173 --> 04:37:47,443
there talking about human impact. And I was sitting there

3548
04:37:47,443 --> 04:37:50,445
like, that is the piece that's missing for me. And I know I

3549
04:37:50,445 --> 04:37:53,470
get up like every six months and say this to y'all like,

3550
04:37:53,470 --> 04:37:57,386
yes, the county is a business and it must, you know, balance

3551
04:37:57,386 --> 04:37:59,521
this budget like we've all had that conversation. We know

3552
04:37:59,521 --> 04:38:02,925
that. And these are human beings in the community

3553
04:38:02,925 --> 04:38:06,261
terrified of losing their their medical care. I know many

3554
04:38:06,261 --> 04:38:08,797
people on Medi-Cal right now and some folks that are no

3555
04:38:08,797 --> 04:38:12,670
longer in medical and some that have left cover California that

3556
04:38:12,670 --> 04:38:14,936
cannot pay their rent if they want health insurance. Like

3557
04:38:14,936 --> 04:38:22,736
right. We all know this. So can we please add to our analysis?

3558
04:38:23,780 --> 04:38:27,149
We can now go to our zoom comments.

3559
04:38:27,149 --> 04:38:31,349
The next speaker is Ewa. Please unmute.

3560
04:38:33,288 --> 04:38:37,250
Hello. And um supervisors, my name is

3561
04:38:37,250 --> 04:38:40,280
Yui Nishiki. I'm a practicing nurse practitioner and head of

3562
04:38:40,280 --> 04:38:43,832
strategy and value at Lifelong Medical Care and FCPS in

3563
04:38:43,832 --> 04:38:48,320
Alameda and Contra Costa, providing care over 52,000

3564
04:38:48,303 --> 04:38:51,640
patients across the two counties. I'd like to also

3565
04:38:51,640 --> 04:38:54,776
thank Doctor Colfax and Team as they move thoughtfully through

3566
04:38:54,776 --> 04:38:59,314
difficult budget decisions. Um, and particularly as federal and

3567
04:38:59,314 --> 04:39:02,451
state policy changes are expected to increase pressures

3568
04:39:02,451 --> 04:39:06,989
on the health care and safety net system. We are already

3569
04:39:06,989 --> 04:39:09,657
seeing this impact. Since October, lifelong has

3570
04:39:09,657 --> 04:39:14,457
experienced a 21% reduction in Medi-Cal visits and operating

3571
04:39:15,263 --> 04:39:20,690
at a significant monthly deficit. And this is before

3572
04:39:20,690 --> 04:39:24,205
many undocumented U.S. residents, uh, transitioned

3573
04:39:24,205 --> 04:39:28,544
from managed Medicare to fee for service coverage. And this

3574
04:39:28,544 --> 04:39:32,681
change not only furthers rains as financially, but

3575
04:39:32,681 --> 04:39:36,952
going from managed Medi-Cal to fee for service for a patient

3576
04:39:36,952 --> 04:39:40,956
removes the specialty care system that the managed

3577
04:39:40,956 --> 04:39:45,930
Medicare system provides and care coordination programs like

3578
04:39:45,930 --> 04:39:49,893
the ECM, enhanced Medical Care management programs, and

3579
04:39:52,490 --> 04:39:56,187
leaving patients to navigate the complex health care system

3580
04:39:56,187 --> 04:40:00,391
alone. And looking ahead, we're looking at work requirements in

3581
04:40:00,391 --> 04:40:05,191
six month renewals that will create more additional

3582
04:40:05,396 --> 04:40:08,666
administrative barriers to coverage. And we're estimating

3583
04:40:08,666 --> 04:40:12,203
anywhere from 15 to 30% of our patients will be affected by

3584
04:40:12,203 --> 04:40:16,207
this. And especially concerned about the impact on patients

3585
04:40:16,207 --> 04:40:19,210
experiencing homelessness and patients with significant

3586
04:40:19,210 --> 04:40:25,210
behavioral health needs. And despite all this, we will keep

3587
04:40:25,216 --> 04:40:30,870
our doors open regardless of the ability to pay for patients

3588
04:40:30,870 --> 04:40:33,910
and provide comprehensive medical, dental, and behavioral

3589
04:40:33,910 --> 04:40:37,891
health services, and ensuring that we have robust.

3590
04:40:38,829 --> 04:40:42,429
Next speaker is Sean. Please unmute.

3591
04:40:46,571 --> 04:40:51,641
Good afternoon, board members and county staff. Um, Sean

3592
04:40:51,641 --> 04:40:55,450
Selvam with iPPt local 21 and also the Contra Costa County

3593
04:40:55,450 --> 04:40:58,649
Union Coalition, first Contra Costa Health leadership did not

3594
04:40:58,649 --> 04:41:01,519
adjust their assumptions around enrollment losses, despite the

3595
04:41:01,519 --> 04:41:04,655
fact that the state has done so. This makes the projected

3596
04:41:04,655 --> 04:41:07,725
problem look worse than it is. The state reduced their

3597
04:41:07,725 --> 04:41:10,661
assumptions because the 80 hour work requirement can now be met

3598
04:41:10,661 --> 04:41:13,464
with earning the equivalent of 80 hours at the federal minimum

3599
04:41:13,464 --> 04:41:16,670
wage, a threshold many California workers would meet

3600
04:41:16,670 --> 04:41:19,203
due to higher wages. It's unusual that Contra Costa

3601
04:41:19,203 --> 04:41:21,271
Health leadership seems to be going in the other direction

3602
04:41:21,271 --> 04:41:24,542
and actually increasing their assumed losses and out years.

3603
04:41:24,542 --> 04:41:27,211
Please be aware this may undermine the accuracy of their

3604
04:41:27,211 --> 04:41:30,347
loss projections. Other counties, like San Francisco,

3605
04:41:30,347 --> 04:41:32,883
are assuming that investments in enrollment staffing now

3606
04:41:32,883 --> 04:41:35,486
could help mitigate enrollment losses in the future. Even

3607
04:41:35,486 --> 04:41:38,222
further, our county should be preparing to implement the work

3608
04:41:38,222 --> 04:41:40,891
requirements now, and if we're able to get good systems in

3609
04:41:40,891 --> 04:41:43,561
place with adequate staffing, we should be able to lower

3610
04:41:43,561 --> 04:41:46,831
assumed revenue losses. We look forward to hearing Doctor

3611
04:41:46,831 --> 04:41:49,700
Stuart's progress report on this project on September 8th.

3612
04:41:49,700 --> 04:41:52,836
Second, these Contra Costa Health projections also assume

3613
04:41:52,836 --> 04:41:56,106
that County General Fund support remains flat. It won't

3614
04:41:56,106 --> 04:41:59,176
entirely. Sales tax was recently expanded to cover

3615
04:41:59,176 --> 04:42:02,246
digital software sales, but I don't see any estimates for how

3616
04:42:02,246 --> 04:42:04,582
much new revenue this could bring into the county, which

3617
04:42:04,582 --> 04:42:08,520
could help some with these deficits. Third, the deficit

3618
04:42:08,520 --> 04:42:10,921
for this year has been reduced to 10 million, down from 80

3619
04:42:10,921 --> 04:42:13,924
million remarkably quickly. And there is likely more they could

3620
04:42:13,924 --> 04:42:17,261
do. So far, they've only made 6 million in reductions to IT

3621
04:42:17,261 --> 04:42:19,596
contracts. We're guessing there are many more contracts that

3622
04:42:19,596 --> 04:42:22,933
could be reduced, reducing contracts countywide now can

3623
04:42:22,933 --> 04:42:25,803
save money later. Fourth, Contra Costa Health doesn't

3624
04:42:25,803 --> 04:42:28,405
mention whether or not they're looking at vacant positions and

3625
04:42:28,405 --> 04:42:31,342
either properly accounting for them or reassessing their need.

3626
04:42:31,342 --> 04:42:35,279
C's health should be required to do both before impacting any

3627
04:42:35,279 --> 04:42:38,549
filled positions. And finally, Contra Costa Health leadership

3628
04:42:38,549 --> 04:42:41,952
in the CEO have not met with workers to share their plans or

3629
04:42:41,952 --> 04:42:44,822
seek our input. The voices of county workers should be

3630
04:42:44,822 --> 04:42:47,491
included in these discussions moving forward. Thank you very

3631
04:42:47,491 --> 04:42:51,910
much. Next speaker is Craig. Please

3632
04:42:51,849 --> 04:42:54,849
unmute. Thank you. Very interesting

3633
04:42:56,787 --> 04:42:59,790
presentation. I just want, as a resident of Martinez, I want to

3634
04:42:59,790 --> 04:43:03,994
offer my gratitude to Contra Costa Health for the great work

3635
04:43:03,994 --> 04:43:07,865
you do. Um, I have a disabled family member who began

3636
04:43:07,865 --> 04:43:11,535
receiving services from Contra Costa Health earlier this year,

3637
04:43:11,535 --> 04:43:15,139
and we've been very pleased with the level of services

3638
04:43:15,139 --> 04:43:17,941
she's received compared to what she was receiving previously.

3639
04:43:17,941 --> 04:43:20,343
And anecdotally, I've heard that, especially when it comes

3640
04:43:20,343 --> 04:43:23,347
to mental health services, a lot of people have left their

3641
04:43:23,347 --> 04:43:27,618
private, um, private insurers to come to Contra Costa Health

3642
04:43:27,618 --> 04:43:30,221
if they're eligible, because your services are so much

3643
04:43:30,221 --> 04:43:34,959
stronger and more robust. And I know that puts also puts an

3644
04:43:34,959 --> 04:43:38,829
additional financial burden on you. But thank you so much.

3645
04:43:38,829 --> 04:43:42,833
Just a couple quick observations. I think, you

3646
04:43:42,833 --> 04:43:45,302
know, in terms of the federal cuts that are devastating our

3647
04:43:45,302 --> 04:43:48,172
system, I think it just shines a light on how important the

3648
04:43:48,172 --> 04:43:52,642
upcoming elections in 2026 and 2028 will be throughout the

3649
04:43:52,642 --> 04:43:55,713
country in determining, you know, the future of our

3650
04:43:55,713 --> 04:43:59,116
country, but of our our local institutions and our health

3651
04:43:59,116 --> 04:44:02,186
department. And that will come down to what voters do in

3652
04:44:02,186 --> 04:44:06,223
places like Iowa and Ohio and lots of other places. So I hope

3653
04:44:06,223 --> 04:44:10,600
all of our residents are, um, keeping a close eye and paying

3654
04:44:10,600 --> 04:44:13,931
attention and doing what they can, looking at this issue

3655
04:44:13,931 --> 04:44:17,268
holistically, I also wanted to make the comment that, as we

3656
04:44:17,268 --> 04:44:20,537
all know, uh, broader social conditions have a lot to do

3657
04:44:20,537 --> 04:44:25,142
with the health of our community. And in, um, in turn,

3658
04:44:25,142 --> 04:44:28,679
the impact of their health or their health problems on

3659
04:44:28,679 --> 04:44:31,548
government and the health depament. And I just want to

3660
04:44:31,548 --> 04:44:35,619
underscore again, the issue of, um, housing insecurity. Housing

3661
04:44:35,619 --> 04:44:39,220
insecurity leads to health problems, health issues that

3662
04:44:39,220 --> 04:44:42,260
burden, um, our health department. And so the more

3663
04:44:42,260 --> 04:44:45,563
that our local leaders in Contra Costa County can address

3664
04:44:45,563 --> 04:44:49,300
the issue of housing security, the more progress we'll be able

3665
04:44:49,300 --> 04:44:53,104
to make. Um, in stabilizing our health, Contra Costa Health

3666
04:44:53,104 --> 04:44:57,904
Services. Thank you. Next speaker is Tracy. Please

3667
04:44:59,443 --> 04:45:01,443
unmute. Hello.

3668
04:45:02,446 --> 04:45:05,316
Good afternoon. I'm Tracy mendez. Um, Allied

3669
04:45:05,316 --> 04:45:05,649
Health. A.

3670
04:45:05,649 --> 04:45:07,584
Community health center consortium.

3671
04:45:07,584 --> 04:45:10,720
Thank you so much to Doctor Colfax, Doctor Colfax.

3672
04:45:10,720 --> 04:45:12,790
And. Directors Muriel and Culberson

3673
04:45:12,790 --> 04:45:15,659
for. highlighting both the institutional and human costs

3674
04:45:15,659 --> 04:45:19,463
of these all these policies changes. Um, and I think you

3675
04:45:19,463 --> 04:45:22,800
all know this, but as Mariana and you both pointed out, the

3676
04:45:22,800 --> 04:45:25,803
impacts, you know, will be felt well beyond the county and well

3677
04:45:25,803 --> 04:45:29,407
beyond just low income residents of the county. But to

3678
04:45:29,407 --> 04:45:32,142
really to all residents, ultimately, and certainly all

3679
04:45:32,142 --> 04:45:34,812
health care providers, especially those that are part

3680
04:45:34,812 --> 04:45:37,882
of the safety net, um, and those like our community health

3681
04:45:37,882 --> 04:45:40,618
centers that have disproportionately served the

3682
04:45:40,618 --> 04:45:44,818
uninsured population. The US population, other vulnerable

3683
04:45:45,222 --> 04:45:48,446
groups. And as you mentioned, you know, some of these changes

3684
04:45:48,446 --> 04:45:51,782
that were not reflected in the slides include the loss of

3685
04:45:51,782 --> 04:45:54,918
covered California subsidies and changes in coverage that

3686
04:45:54,918 --> 04:45:59,123
are already hitting health centers with more uninsured

3687
04:45:59,123 --> 04:46:03,794
patients without any increase in revenue. Um, so, you know,

3688
04:46:03,794 --> 04:46:06,597
we in health centers have the same strategies as the county.

3689
04:46:06,597 --> 04:46:08,399
We're looking at revenue capture. We're looking at

3690
04:46:08,399 --> 04:46:11,669
reducing costs wherever we can without affecting care,

3691
04:46:11,669 --> 04:46:15,269
improving enrollment, navigation as as Supervisor

3692
04:46:15,539 --> 04:46:18,810
Gioia, you pointed out, and we continue we plan to continue

3693
04:46:18,810 --> 04:46:21,879
being, you know, an accessible, high quality, cost effective

3694
04:46:21,879 --> 04:46:25,282
partner in the primary care and other spaces. So we look

3695
04:46:25,282 --> 04:46:28,219
forward to working with all of you supervisors, the health

3696
04:46:28,219 --> 04:46:32,823
department, AiSd, the health plan, the hospitals and others

3697
04:46:32,823 --> 04:46:35,793
to do all the work that's needed ahead of us to advocate

3698
04:46:35,793 --> 04:46:39,960
and improve our systems so that we are there for the patients

3699
04:46:39,960 --> 04:46:43,834
that need us. Thank you. Next speaker is Jim. Please

3700
04:46:43,834 --> 04:46:47,434
unmute. Yeah. This is Jim Donnelly,

3701
04:46:52,509 --> 04:46:57,309
emeritus member, Advisory Council on Aging. Um, great.

3702
04:46:58,249 --> 04:47:01,518
Uh, informative presentation. Unfortunately, the, uh, the

3703
04:47:01,518 --> 04:47:05,723
results are really depressing. I'd like to say. Just think

3704
04:47:05,723 --> 04:47:07,925
what it could have been if we could have passed measure B,

3705
04:47:07,925 --> 04:47:11,328
but that's the way it is. And unfortunately, an awful lot of

3706
04:47:11,328 --> 04:47:14,932
the people that are going to be impacted, our seniors, because

3707
04:47:14,932 --> 04:47:19,870
they do represent a higher number, um, just keep trying to

3708
04:47:19,870 --> 04:47:23,741
find where we can to cut and be more effective. That's all I

3709
04:47:23,741 --> 04:47:27,411
can say. I'm glad I'm not having to make the decisions.

3710
04:47:27,411 --> 04:47:30,481
It's late. We've been here a long time today, so that's all

3711
04:47:30,481 --> 04:47:35,850
I have to say. Thank you. The next speaker is Daniel.

3712
04:47:35,850 --> 04:47:39,285
Please unmute. Uh, good afternoon. Uh, board

3713
04:47:39,423 --> 04:47:43,560
members, uh, Daniel Romer, uh, Walnut Creek, California.

3714
04:47:43,560 --> 04:47:46,163
Um. Uh, being from Walnut Creek, we

3715
04:47:46,163 --> 04:47:48,432
often hear. Walnut Creek, referred to as the jewel of the

3716
04:47:48,432 --> 04:47:51,902
East Bay for its robust shopping center. Um, I'd like.

3717
04:47:51,902 --> 04:47:55,906
to say that I think that the the real jewel is the, uh, the

3718
04:47:55,906 --> 04:47:59,777
hospital in Martinez. Um, it's an incredible resource. I know

3719
04:47:59,777 --> 04:48:03,981
this for many reasons, but, uh, dearest to my heart, my father

3720
04:48:03,981 --> 04:48:06,783
received care in cardiology. The ER, and the primary

3721
04:48:06,783 --> 04:48:10,320
departments there and the care that he received there was as

3722
04:48:10,320 --> 04:48:13,990
good or better than anything he received at Stanford and USF.

3723
04:48:13,990 --> 04:48:17,127
Um, so I would just like to say, uh, please work with the

3724
04:48:17,127 --> 04:48:20,931
with the hospital, help them not just to survive, um, but to

3725
04:48:20,931 --> 04:48:24,401
thrive. Also, I'd like to say, apropos of the earlier

3726
04:48:24,401 --> 04:48:28,271
presentations, the county serves and serves as the

3727
04:48:28,271 --> 04:48:31,141
backbone for a lot of the essential workers in this

3728
04:48:31,141 --> 04:48:34,100
county. Uh, I don't think we don't consider that charity

3729
04:48:34,100 --> 04:48:37,347
that's basically giving them their due for what they give

3730
04:48:37,347 --> 04:48:40,951
us. And so for that reason as well, I encourage you to work

3731
04:48:40,951 --> 04:48:44,880
as, uh, and do whatever we have to do to support the hospital.

3732
04:48:44,880 --> 04:48:47,240
Thank you. There are no more comments.

3733
04:48:47,240 --> 04:48:52,165
Thank you. Yeah. 1 in 5 people are getting services from us.

3734
04:48:52,165 --> 04:48:57,370
That means that 1 in 5 people need it, and they're not having

3735
04:48:57,370 --> 04:49:00,174
to go to other places. So we want to be able to deliver

3736
04:49:00,174 --> 04:49:04,374
that. If there's any other comments. Okay.

3737
04:49:06,460 --> 04:49:09,490
I was just going to say thank you. Very, very informative

3738
04:49:09,490 --> 04:49:12,452
report and I appreciate that. In the preceding months, as

3739
04:49:12,452 --> 04:49:14,522
I've met with your team monthly, you've been giving me

3740
04:49:14,522 --> 04:49:18,725
a little bit of a preview of this, this very lengthy

3741
04:49:18,725 --> 04:49:21,195
exercise, for lack of a better word, that we've been going

3742
04:49:21,195 --> 04:49:25,599
through to really analyze our finances, to make them more

3743
04:49:25,599 --> 04:49:29,936
transparent, understandable by the public, more importantly by

3744
04:49:29,936 --> 04:49:33,874
us, the Board of Supervisors, to really understand how we can

3745
04:49:33,874 --> 04:49:37,144
best deliver services to our community in the most

3746
04:49:37,144 --> 04:49:41,348
efficient, cost effective way is very, very helpful. And I

3747
04:49:41,348 --> 04:49:44,180
appreciate that we're on this path. We are weighing our

3748
04:49:44,180 --> 04:49:47,821
options because at the end of the day, we always say we have

3749
04:49:47,821 --> 04:49:51,910
to live within our means. And yes, to a certain extent, we

3750
04:49:51,910 --> 04:49:54,161
have over the years continue to support our health system

3751
04:49:54,161 --> 04:49:58,332
through our county general fund. But as we see that under

3752
04:49:58,332 --> 04:50:01,769
attack as well, declining because of other impacts, we

3753
04:50:01,769 --> 04:50:04,705
really do need to figure out how can we provide the very

3754
04:50:04,705 --> 04:50:09,176
best cost effective health care system to those most in need,

3755
04:50:09,176 --> 04:50:12,446
while at the same time being able to ensure that we can

3756
04:50:12,446 --> 04:50:15,449
provide that in the future and that we will have the funds to

3757
04:50:15,449 --> 04:50:18,853
do so. And so thank you. Very helpful to me.

3758
04:50:18,853 --> 04:50:22,590
And for those that are still interested, you know, do your

3759
04:50:22,590 --> 04:50:25,992
research, check out what all of these different things are and

3760
04:50:25,992 --> 04:50:31,532
why the county does what we do. And and it's value. I made a

3761
04:50:31,532 --> 04:50:37,271
motion to accept this report. I got a second from Supervisor

3762
04:50:37,271 --> 04:50:43,271
Carlson. John. And it passes unanimously. Thank you so much.

3763
04:50:51,418 --> 04:50:55,222
Thank you. Supervisor. Okay. We have thank you. All of

3764
04:50:55,222 --> 04:50:59,960
the folks in the back from health. You all are rock stars.

3765
04:50:59,960 --> 04:51:08,360
Um, we have two more items. Um, we have a quick lunch, and so

3766
04:51:08,568 --> 04:51:10,838
are you. How quick can you guys eat lunch?

3767
04:51:10,838 --> 04:51:15,509
I say, let's be back at two. It's 141. We have 19 minutes to

3768
04:51:15,509 --> 04:51:18,450
eat our lunch, and hopefully everyone's already left for

3769
04:51:18,450 --> 04:51:20,847
lunch. Who needs to grab lunch elsewhere?

3770
04:51:20,847 --> 04:51:26,847
Yep. 20 minutes. We'll be back at 2:00. Yes, boy. Jamie, you

3771
05:11:50,150 --> 05:11:56,955
are amazing. So good afternoon. We are back from a fairly quick

3772
05:11:56,955 --> 05:12:04,155
lunch. Uh, we are on item D3, which is a resolution. I'm

3773
05:12:06,364 --> 05:12:11,164
trying to read it. Uh, adopting resolution number 2026 319,

3774
05:12:12,504 --> 05:12:15,973
approving the successor memorandum of understanding

3775
05:12:15,973 --> 05:12:19,243
between the Contra Costa County, between Contra Costa

3776
05:12:19,243 --> 05:12:24,430
County and Teamsters Local 856, implementing a negotiated wage

3777
05:12:24,982 --> 05:12:27,985
agreements and other economic terms and conditions of

3778
05:12:27,985 --> 05:12:33,385
employment for the period of August 1st, 2026 through July

3779
05:12:33,991 --> 05:12:39,263
31st, 2028, and approving a side letter to conduct a

3780
05:12:39,263 --> 05:12:43,201
compensation study. And we have David Sanford here from Labor

3781
05:12:43,201 --> 05:12:46,604
Relations. Hello, David. Just for a second. I'm getting

3782
05:12:46,604 --> 05:12:49,730
a text that zoom is again muted.

3783
05:12:49,730 --> 05:12:52,730
Alrighty. We check that please.

3784
05:12:52,410 --> 05:12:58,410
I am going to see if zoom is working. It.

3785
05:13:01,101 --> 05:13:07,101
Thank you supervisor. We're unmuting it right now. Okay. We

3786
05:13:37,804 --> 05:13:42,876
are now unmuted. Thank you. So good afternoon everyone. We

3787
05:13:42,876 --> 05:13:47,947
are back. Uh we are going to do D3. I read it a moment ago, but

3788
05:13:47,947 --> 05:13:51,217
I'm not going to read it again. I'm going to let David talk

3789
05:13:51,217 --> 05:13:54,488
about what we're what we're doing in that way. We're saving

3790
05:13:54,488 --> 05:13:56,556
a little bit of time. Uh, thank you, chair Bergus and

3791
05:13:56,556 --> 05:14:00,270
Board of Supervisors. Um, yes. I am pleased to share that the

3792
05:14:00,270 --> 05:14:04,431
county and Teamsters Local 856 have reached a agreement on a

3793
05:14:04,431 --> 05:14:08,501
successor memorandum of understanding. This item asked

3794
05:14:08,501 --> 05:14:11,505
the board to adopt a resolution approving that successor

3795
05:14:11,505 --> 05:14:14,507
memorandum of understanding, as well as a side letter that

3796
05:14:14,507 --> 05:14:17,443
arose out of bargaining regarding a compensation study

3797
05:14:17,443 --> 05:14:21,714
to be performed during the term of the MOU. The county began

3798
05:14:21,714 --> 05:14:25,518
bargaining with the Teamsters on February 24th, 2026, and

3799
05:14:25,518 --> 05:14:28,922
reached agreement on a new contract on August 12th. The

3800
05:14:28,922 --> 05:14:31,991
Teamsters completed their ratification vote on August

3801
05:14:31,991 --> 05:14:35,528
20th. As detailed in the background section of the staff

3802
05:14:35,528 --> 05:14:39,399
report and the attached MOU, the agreement provides for 3%

3803
05:14:39,399 --> 05:14:43,200
salary increases in each year of the two year contract. These

3804
05:14:43,200 --> 05:14:46,473
increases will result in approximately $15.4 million in

3805
05:14:46,473 --> 05:14:49,809
additional personnel costs over the term of the agreement, and

3806
05:14:49,809 --> 05:14:52,412
operating departments will be expected to absorb the

3807
05:14:52,412 --> 05:14:56,549
additional personnel costs resulting from the agreement.

3808
05:14:56,549 --> 05:14:59,285
The parties also agreed to reallocate the salaries of

3809
05:14:59,285 --> 05:15:02,689
several mental health classifications, which are

3810
05:15:02,689 --> 05:15:06,625
critical to service delivery and our health system. This

3811
05:15:06,625 --> 05:15:11,898
includes the creation of a newly established licensed and

3812
05:15:11,898 --> 05:15:14,167
unlicensed mental health clinical specialist.

3813
05:15:14,167 --> 05:15:17,167
Classification. These allocations together represent

3814
05:15:17,704 --> 05:15:21,908
additional costs of $3.9 million based on allocation at

3815
05:15:21,908 --> 05:15:27,179
top step. The agreement also maintains the status quo on the

3816
05:15:27,179 --> 05:15:29,916
county's current health care subsidy structure for the

3817
05:15:29,916 --> 05:15:34,187
Kaiser Teamsters Trust. For the duration of the contract, the

3818
05:15:34,187 --> 05:15:36,322
county recommends that the board adopt the resolution

3819
05:15:36,322 --> 05:15:39,125
approving the successor Memorandum of Understanding and

3820
05:15:39,125 --> 05:15:41,928
the side letter. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any

3821
05:15:41,928 --> 05:15:44,330
questions or comments before we go to public comment?

3822
05:15:44,330 --> 05:15:47,534
I'll wait for public comment. Alrighty. Are there any public

3823
05:15:47,534 --> 05:15:50,470
comments for this item? If there are any callers or

3824
05:15:50,470 --> 05:15:51,671
zoom participants. Who.

3825
05:15:51,671 --> 05:15:55,357
Would like to speak on the MOU between Contra Costa County and

3826
05:15:55,357 --> 05:15:59,629
Teamsters Local 856, please press pound two if you're on

3827
05:15:59,629 --> 05:16:01,698
the phone or raise your hand in.

3828
05:16:01,698 --> 05:16:06,498
The zoom app. There are no comments ready.

3829
05:16:08,371 --> 05:16:11,708
Any comments or questions before we.

3830
05:16:11,708 --> 05:16:13,420
Just, um. Take.

3831
05:16:13,420 --> 05:16:17,847
A motion? Thank you for your efforts. You and your team and

3832
05:16:17,847 --> 05:16:23,247
successfully reaching an agreement. And thank you to our

3833
05:16:23,253 --> 05:16:27,923
eight, five, six Teamsters 856 um, leadership and members for

3834
05:16:27,923 --> 05:16:33,196
your work and partnership. Alrighty. I have a motion from

3835
05:16:33,196 --> 05:16:38,596
Supervisor Carlson and a second from Supervisor Anderson. Don.

3836
05:16:46,609 --> 05:16:50,413
And it passes unanimously. Thank you. Alrighty. We're

3837
05:16:50,413 --> 05:16:56,553
going to move on to item D4, which is to consider accepting

3838
05:16:56,553 --> 05:16:59,489
the monthly update on the activities and oversight of the

3839
05:16:59,489 --> 05:17:03,626
county's Head Start program. Approve the fiscal year 2425

3840
05:17:03,626 --> 05:17:07,163
single audit findings related to Head Start approved the

3841
05:17:07,163 --> 05:17:10,433
revised Head Start governance policies. Resolution Number

3842
05:17:10,433 --> 05:17:14,330
2023, slash 274, and resolution number 2023, slash 499 and

3843
05:17:18,441 --> 05:17:22,112
provide guidance as recommended by the Employment and Human

3844
05:17:22,112 --> 05:17:26,312
Services Director. Thank you. And good afternoon,

3845
05:17:28,718 --> 05:17:30,920
Chair Bergus and members. of the board. I am.

3846
05:17:30,920 --> 05:17:32,655
Martha Stewart, the. Director of the Employment and

3847
05:17:32,655 --> 05:17:35,325
Human Services Department, and I'm here today with Sarah

3848
05:17:35,325 --> 05:17:38,610
Reich, our director of Community Services Bureau. This

3849
05:17:38,610 --> 05:17:41,597
is your monthly early childhood education update for August

3850
05:17:41,597 --> 05:17:49,397
2026. And can we get the slides up? There we go. Um, great. So

3851
05:17:50,674 --> 05:17:53,943
we're on slide two. Now. Um, we'll brief you on six topics

3852
05:17:53,943 --> 05:17:56,479
today, including both our federal and state funded early

3853
05:17:56,479 --> 05:17:59,883
childhood education programs. Um, we will not be briefing you

3854
05:17:59,883 --> 05:18:02,885
on the Policy Council as they do not meet in July, and they

3855
05:18:02,885 --> 05:18:08,224
did not meet in July. Next slide. Moving on to our federal

3856
05:18:08,224 --> 05:18:13,563
environment updates. And next slide. We're now on slide four.

3857
05:18:13,563 --> 05:18:16,365
Um, we have one update for you today regarding our federal

3858
05:18:16,365 --> 05:18:20,836
environment. On August 6th, the US Department of Health and

3859
05:18:20,836 --> 05:18:24,240
Human Services issued a notice of Proposed rulemaking

3860
05:18:24,240 --> 05:18:27,844
concerning the Head Start program performance standards.

3861
05:18:27,844 --> 05:18:31,714
Their proposed changes include a significant reduction in

3862
05:18:31,714 --> 05:18:36,186
federal regulations. It is open for public comment until

3863
05:18:36,186 --> 05:18:40,390
October 6th. We are assessing the changes and the potential

3864
05:18:40,390 --> 05:18:44,260
impacts for our program, and we will bring this item to the

3865
05:18:44,260 --> 05:18:47,663
September Head Start Committee meeting. We will be

3866
05:18:47,663 --> 05:18:51,467
recommending that you make comments on this rule, the

3867
05:18:51,467 --> 05:18:55,605
final rule is expected next year until the final rule is

3868
05:18:55,605 --> 05:18:58,495
issued. We continue to operate our program according to

3869
05:18:58,495 --> 05:19:02,833
current federal standards. Next slide. And now we're on slide

3870
05:19:02,833 --> 05:19:07,330
six. There you go. Sorry for technical.

3871
05:19:07,170 --> 05:19:09,706
Difficulties here. Oh here. There we.

3872
05:19:09,706 --> 05:19:11,706
Go. Okay.

3873
05:19:14,110 --> 05:19:15,312
Moving on. To our child.

3874
05:19:15,312 --> 05:19:17,712
Care center. Service updates.

3875
05:19:18,648 --> 05:19:21,518
We are happy to share our slot plans for this year.

3876
05:19:21,518 --> 05:19:23,320
Which align with. Your governing body.

3877
05:19:23,320 --> 05:19:27,857
Goals and program objectives. This table highlights two of

3878
05:19:27,857 --> 05:19:32,570
the five fiscal year. 2627 governing Body program.

3879
05:19:33,130 --> 05:19:35,265
Goals and. Objectives related to our

3880
05:19:35,265 --> 05:19:37,665
program expansion.. And the.

3881
05:19:37,867 --> 05:19:41,204
First row we transitioned part day classrooms to full day

3882
05:19:41,204 --> 05:19:44,808
classrooms to meet the needs of commuting families at our

3883
05:19:44,808 --> 05:19:48,879
Balboa and George Miller three centers in Richmond. This was

3884
05:19:48,879 --> 05:19:52,140
our program objective for the year and will provide families

3885
05:19:52,140 --> 05:19:55,850
with full day coverage to support working. and going to

3886
05:19:55,850 --> 05:20:00,156
school. For the second row, we have two updates. The first is

3887
05:20:00,156 --> 05:20:04,761
that we opened 70 additional slots in existing locations

3888
05:20:04,761 --> 05:20:09,899
using state funding for fiscal year 2627. You will see this

3889
05:20:09,899 --> 05:20:12,836
reflected in the July enrollment data we present in

3890
05:20:12,836 --> 05:20:17,507
September. We do we do want to note that we expect an initial

3891
05:20:17,507 --> 05:20:20,310
dip in our enrollment percentage as we work to fill

3892
05:20:20,310 --> 05:20:25,649
these new slots. The second update here is that we are

3893
05:20:25,649 --> 05:20:29,786
nearing licensing approval to open two new infant toddler

3894
05:20:29,786 --> 05:20:33,790
classrooms, serving an additional 16 children. Each of

3895
05:20:33,790 --> 05:20:36,927
these will be at the Los Nogales Center and District

3896
05:20:36,927 --> 05:20:41,130
three, and the Livonia Allen Center and District five. These

3897
05:20:41,130 --> 05:20:44,735
slots are not yet reflected in the updated slot plans by

3898
05:20:44,735 --> 05:20:50,741
district. We'll show you on the next slide. This is an updated

3899
05:20:50,741 --> 05:20:53,810
summary of how our slots spread across districts following

3900
05:20:53,810 --> 05:20:58,810
these updates, we have increased slots in district one

3901
05:20:58,810 --> 05:21:02,218
and district five. The decrease in district three slots was due

3902
05:21:02,218 --> 05:21:05,555
to shifting infant toddler slots from a partner agency

3903
05:21:05,555 --> 05:21:10,260
located in the district to our directly operated centers based

3904
05:21:10,260 --> 05:21:14,300
in districts one and five. As mentioned, we are planning for

3905
05:21:14,300 --> 05:21:17,901
an additional 16 infant toddler slots for the district three

3906
05:21:17,901 --> 05:21:21,705
later this year. We continue to monitor our progress at

3907
05:21:21,705 --> 05:21:25,441
aligning the distribution of slots with the distribution of

3908
05:21:25,441 --> 05:21:30,313
the county 0 to 5 year old population. We can open only

3909
05:21:30,313 --> 05:21:33,249
one more classroom within our current directly operated

3910
05:21:33,249 --> 05:21:36,720
centers. Any additional expansion would need to come

3911
05:21:36,720 --> 05:21:42,120
through partner contracts or acquiring space. In June, we

3912
05:21:42,125 --> 05:21:47,525
had 98% enrollment for our federal slots and 99% of our

3913
05:21:47,731 --> 05:21:53,131
state slots. In June, the federal attendance rate was

3914
05:21:53,269 --> 05:21:57,730
73%, and the most common absence reason was child

3915
05:21:57,730 --> 05:22:01,678
illness. There is no penalty for low federal attendance. The

3916
05:22:01,678 --> 05:22:06,950
state attendance rate was 98%. There was no state penalty for

3917
05:22:06,950 --> 05:22:10,487
attendance. In June. Starting in July, our state

3918
05:22:10,487 --> 05:22:15,287
reimbursement was based on attendance. We served an

3919
05:22:16,427 --> 05:22:21,827
average of 1807 meals daily. In June. Throw throughout our

3920
05:22:22,966 --> 05:22:27,237
child care centers and subsidy programs. We served over 4000

3921
05:22:27,237 --> 05:22:32,642
children in June. Our new fiscal year began on July 1st.

3922
05:22:32,642 --> 05:22:36,179
Today, we are reporting budget summaries through June and

3923
05:22:36,179 --> 05:22:41,579
closing out fiscal year 2526. In June, we spent 3.3 million.

3924
05:22:44,587 --> 05:22:49,593
Our year to date, year to date expenditure is 26.7 million,

3925
05:22:49,593 --> 05:22:54,993
with a remaining balance of 880,000. In measure X funding,

3926
05:22:55,866 --> 05:23:00,270
our measure X funding covers a new contract that had startup

3927
05:23:00,270 --> 05:23:04,607
time. It is now fully operational and we expect to

3928
05:23:04,607 --> 05:23:10,607
expand our full measure X award within fiscal year 2627. In

3929
05:23:10,681 --> 05:23:14,884
fiscal year 2526, we fully expanded our federal headstart

3930
05:23:14,884 --> 05:23:19,684
Grant and the required non-federal share. We spent

3931
05:23:20,290 --> 05:23:25,900
$27,500 with Head Start funds utilizing credit cards. In

3932
05:23:25,562 --> 05:23:28,966
June, all purases were budgeted and made by authorized

3933
05:23:28,966 --> 05:23:34,905
staff. The Office of Head Start requires the board to approve

3934
05:23:34,905 --> 05:23:39,576
the annual single audit for fiscal year 2425. The audit had

3935
05:23:39,576 --> 05:23:43,247
no findings for the Head Start program. Your board finance

3936
05:23:43,247 --> 05:23:47,450
Committee reviewed and approved the single audit on July 13th.

3937
05:23:47,450 --> 05:23:51,255
Today, we are asking you to approve the single audit for

3938
05:23:51,255 --> 05:23:55,592
Head Start revenue and expenditures. Moving on to our

3939
05:23:55,592 --> 05:24:01,592
monitoring results in June, all five monitoring tools had over

3940
05:24:02,132 --> 05:24:07,871
96% compliance rates. We want to highlight the we want to

3941
05:24:07,871 --> 05:24:10,541
highlight the first two charts for daily playground and

3942
05:24:10,541 --> 05:24:14,770
classroom safety. These observations are completed at

3943
05:24:14,770 --> 05:24:17,214
the start of every day, for every classroom and every

3944
05:24:17,214 --> 05:24:21,618
playground at all. Directly operated and partner physical

3945
05:24:21,618 --> 05:24:24,955
centers to make sure that our facilities are safe for

3946
05:24:24,955 --> 05:24:29,250
children. They identify potential safety concerns so

3947
05:24:29,250 --> 05:24:32,629
corrections can be made, and so that we can avoid children

3948
05:24:32,629 --> 05:24:38,629
being at risk during the day. In June, we completed 4915

3949
05:24:39,235 --> 05:24:44,350
daily playground observations with a 99% compliance rate and

3950
05:24:44,107 --> 05:24:47,707
23,725 daily classrooms, offers daily classroom observations

3951
05:24:50,647 --> 05:24:55,719
with a compliance rate of 100%. This monitoring is an important

3952
05:24:55,719 --> 05:25:01,393
part of our commitment to child safety. There were two

3953
05:25:01,393 --> 05:25:04,610
indicators from our child Transition and safety

3954
05:25:04,610 --> 05:25:08,733
monitoring tool that had a noncompliance rate over 10%. We

3955
05:25:08,733 --> 05:25:12,137
have followed up with staff in those centers to ensure all

3956
05:25:12,137 --> 05:25:17,475
forms are being completed to fidelity. In June, we had one

3957
05:25:17,475 --> 05:25:21,546
incident reportable to Head Start and no citations from

3958
05:25:21,546 --> 05:25:26,417
child care licensing. A site staff member observed. And we

3959
05:25:26,417 --> 05:25:29,820
see on video foot camera footage, a staff member pulled

3960
05:25:29,820 --> 05:25:33,691
a child by the arm to guide them to sit back down on a mat

3961
05:25:33,691 --> 05:25:38,290
during nap time. These actions do not align with our policies

3962
05:25:38,290 --> 05:25:43,340
and standards of conduct, so that staff so that staff member

3963
05:25:43,340 --> 05:25:47,505
was immediately reassigned out of the classroom to an office

3964
05:25:47,505 --> 05:25:52,430
location while we conducted fact finding, the staff member

3965
05:25:52,430 --> 05:25:56,843
was separated from the county following the investigation,

3966
05:25:57,248 --> 05:26:00,251
the child was immediately assessed and did not show signs

3967
05:26:00,251 --> 05:26:04,188
of injury, but was upset about the interaction. We talked with

3968
05:26:04,188 --> 05:26:07,124
the parents about the incident and they appreciated our

3969
05:26:07,124 --> 05:26:10,728
response. The child has continued attending and the

3970
05:26:10,728 --> 05:26:14,799
family is happy at the center. Head start closed the incident

3971
05:26:14,799 --> 05:26:18,135
following our report. The incident was also reported to

3972
05:26:18,135 --> 05:26:22,806
Community Care Licensing, who did issue a type A citation

3973
05:26:22,806 --> 05:26:26,277
that you will see on next month's report. We have cleared

3974
05:26:26,277 --> 05:26:31,770
the citation. Moving on to official communications from

3975
05:26:31,682 --> 05:26:34,952
our federal and state funders. We did not receive any official

3976
05:26:34,952 --> 05:26:40,352
communications from the office of Head Start. In June.

3977
05:26:43,494 --> 05:26:47,965
Last year, California passed AB 495, known as the Family

3978
05:26:47,965 --> 05:26:53,365
Preparedness Act of 2025 for child care providers. This is

3979
05:26:54,171 --> 05:26:59,443
very similar to, but not the same as, SB 580. That applies

3980
05:26:59,443 --> 05:27:03,915
broadly to county agencies and facilities. You have discussed

3981
05:27:03,915 --> 05:27:08,115
SB 580 in previous presentations, and today what

3982
05:27:08,252 --> 05:27:12,790
I'm reporting to you about is 8495, which is for child care

3983
05:27:12,790 --> 05:27:18,190
centers only. Um, so California passed 84, 95. It's a reaction

3984
05:27:18,462 --> 05:27:20,998
to the heightened federal immigration enforcement. And

3985
05:27:20,998 --> 05:27:23,734
the goal is to protect our families information and to

3986
05:27:23,734 --> 05:27:27,400
provide backup caregiver options in the event that a

3987
05:27:27,400 --> 05:27:30,675
child's parent is unexpectedly detained or separated from

3988
05:27:30,675 --> 05:27:35,279
them. AB 495 requires that child care providers, including

3989
05:27:35,279 --> 05:27:39,160
the county and our partner agencies, requires us to

3990
05:27:39,160 --> 05:27:41,953
implement model policies aimed to protect the rights of

3991
05:27:41,953 --> 05:27:46,900
immigrants and allow them to safely access our facilities.

3992
05:27:46,900 --> 05:27:49,627
Programs were required to adopt policies by July 1st, and we

3993
05:27:49,627 --> 05:27:52,696
have done so. We analyzed our compliance with the new

3994
05:27:52,696 --> 05:27:56,134
guidance, and we conferred with County Council. We are already

3995
05:27:56,134 --> 05:27:59,172
highly compliant and we did need to make a few changes,

3996
05:27:59,172 --> 05:28:01,775
such as strengthening the language in our procedures

3997
05:28:01,775 --> 05:28:05,445
manual and our family handbook, and adding certain signage to

3998
05:28:05,445 --> 05:28:09,916
our centers. You delegate your Head Start executive director,

3999
05:28:09,916 --> 05:28:12,986
which is me. You delegate me the authority to approve

4000
05:28:12,986 --> 05:28:16,322
program policies. I have approved these policies. We've

4001
05:28:16,322 --> 05:28:21,122
trained our staff and we have implemented them.

4002
05:28:26,199 --> 05:28:29,269
The next two updates from the California Department of Social

4003
05:28:29,269 --> 05:28:33,140
Services are similar to updates we received from the California

4004
05:28:33,140 --> 05:28:37,210
from the California Department of Education in April. As a

4005
05:28:37,210 --> 05:28:40,547
reminder, we received state funding from both departments

4006
05:28:40,547 --> 05:28:44,751
for similar but different programs based on the children

4007
05:28:44,751 --> 05:28:48,200
served. They often issued similar guidance throughout the

4008
05:28:48,200 --> 05:28:51,758
year. The California Department of Social Services issued the

4009
05:28:51,758 --> 05:28:56,496
fiscal year 2627 Family Fee guidance staff updated our

4010
05:28:56,496 --> 05:29:01,902
guidance to align and notified families who pay fees. We have

4011
05:29:01,902 --> 05:29:05,772
19 families paying fees. Currently, the current family

4012
05:29:05,772 --> 05:29:11,172
fee range is from $33 to $105. The California Department of

4013
05:29:13,780 --> 05:29:17,980
Social Services issued the fiscal year 2627 income

4014
05:29:18,510 --> 05:29:22,540
guidelines. The income ceilings increase slightly based on

4015
05:29:22,540 --> 05:29:26,526
family size. Staff updated our guidance to align income.

4016
05:29:26,526 --> 05:29:31,640
Ceilings were updated at 85% of state median income, including

4017
05:29:31,640 --> 05:29:37,664
yearly ceilings at $115,637 for a family of four. This is an

4018
05:29:38,805 --> 05:29:43,605
increase of $7,400 last. The California Department of Social

4019
05:29:44,477 --> 05:29:48,810
Services issued guidance on how to submit an emergency.

4020
05:29:48,810 --> 05:29:52,180
Emergency closure request form for days when sites or

4021
05:29:52,180 --> 05:29:55,155
classrooms need to close for circumstances beyond their

4022
05:29:55,155 --> 05:29:59,260
control. No action is needed at this time as we are already in

4023
05:29:59,260 --> 05:30:04,426
compliance, we added a special section to this month's

4024
05:30:04,431 --> 05:30:09,236
discussed proposed to this month to discuss proposed board

4025
05:30:09,236 --> 05:30:15,236
governance updates. We bring proposed edits to two of three

4026
05:30:16,976 --> 05:30:21,114
County Headstart governance policies today for approval.

4027
05:30:21,114 --> 05:30:25,914
These policies were established in July 2023. We proposed

4028
05:30:27,254 --> 05:30:32,540
revising resolution number 2023 to 74 to address the cadence.

4029
05:30:34,393 --> 05:30:37,731
The Head Start Committee meets the current language dates. It

4030
05:30:37,731 --> 05:30:43,270
will meet every other month, but we recommend changing it to

4031
05:30:43,270 --> 05:30:47,674
six times per year. This will give more flexibility to work

4032
05:30:47,674 --> 05:30:51,874
with the board meeting calendar. Super supervisor

4033
05:30:52,780 --> 05:30:56,278
availability and programming needs. The second recommended

4034
05:30:56,816 --> 05:31:01,160
change is for resolution 2023 499. Regarding the internal

4035
05:31:02,491 --> 05:31:06,950
fiscal controls, the US Department of Health and Human

4036
05:31:06,950 --> 05:31:11,495
Services adopted the government wide two CFR part 200 Uniform

4037
05:31:12,301 --> 05:31:17,573
Guidance in October 2025. These proposed changes align with the

4038
05:31:17,573 --> 05:31:22,973
revised Federal Regulations. This is the conclusion of our

4039
05:31:25,380 --> 05:31:28,317
report. We're available for questions or guidance, after

4040
05:31:28,317 --> 05:31:31,921
which we ask you to formally accept the report. We also ask

4041
05:31:31,921 --> 05:31:35,657
you to approve the 2425 single audit findings related to the

4042
05:31:35,657 --> 05:31:39,662
Head Start program, for which we had no findings. And we ask

4043
05:31:39,662 --> 05:31:43,131
that you approve the proposed revised Head Start governance

4044
05:31:43,131 --> 05:31:46,535
policies. Thank you. Do any of my

4045
05:31:46,535 --> 05:31:50,939
colleagues have any comments or questions? Questions. Okay.

4046
05:31:50,939 --> 05:31:56,478
Go ahead. So just on on the fee. So this this is when we

4047
05:31:56,478 --> 05:32:02,478
have additional slots that aren't filled by those who are

4048
05:32:02,752 --> 05:32:05,687
Head Start eligible to pay nothing. Right. I thought we

4049
05:32:05,687 --> 05:32:12,287
had such a waiting list that we don't have open slots.

4050
05:32:13,229 --> 05:32:17,366
Um, correct. Head start is free of charge to a families and so

4051
05:32:17,366 --> 05:32:20,703
the family fees are for the state funded childcare

4052
05:32:20,703 --> 05:32:25,574
programs. Um, we do have an open slots at this time. And so

4053
05:32:25,574 --> 05:32:29,912
we are actively enrolling in certain circumstances. There

4054
05:32:29,912 --> 05:32:34,712
are other, um, eligibility criteria that elevates the

4055
05:32:35,985 --> 05:32:39,721
priority. Um, in enrollment. So yeah, right.

4056
05:32:39,721 --> 05:32:43,859
I personally so it could be that a family is next in line

4057
05:32:43,859 --> 05:32:47,462
to enroll in our center that has a little bit higher income.

4058
05:32:47,462 --> 05:32:53,735
So those slots only are available if a fully, um, Head

4059
05:32:53,735 --> 05:32:56,672
Start eligible family does not take advantage of all the

4060
05:32:56,672 --> 05:32:59,541
slots. Right. So in other words, there's still a

4061
05:32:59,541 --> 05:33:03,741
preference for those who are fully eligible.

4062
05:33:09,151 --> 05:33:12,888
These are state only slots that have no Head Start funding.

4063
05:33:12,888 --> 05:33:18,693
I see other the state slots. Yeah. And we have we have um 19

4064
05:33:18,693 --> 05:33:22,231
families in these slots. Got it. Okay. And so those are

4065
05:33:22,231 --> 05:33:28,370
dedicated for those for, for those who may be low income but

4066
05:33:28,370 --> 05:33:32,908
don't have, um, full head start eligibility. And therefore

4067
05:33:32,908 --> 05:33:36,712
don't get funded. So these are 19 slots that are state funded

4068
05:33:36,712 --> 05:33:39,181
and not federally funded. That's correct.

4069
05:33:39,181 --> 05:33:43,381
Okay. Thanks. Any more questions or comments?

4070
05:33:46,255 --> 05:33:49,191
Okay. I have a motion from Anderson and a second from

4071
05:33:49,191 --> 05:33:55,664
Carlson. Oh, I didn't do public comment. Woo! Woof. Do we have

4072
05:33:55,664 --> 05:33:57,265
any public comments on this item?

4073
05:33:57,265 --> 05:34:00,338
If there are any callers or zoom participants who would

4074
05:34:00,338 --> 05:34:03,542
like to speak on the Headstart Monthly update, the single

4075
05:34:03,542 --> 05:34:08,681
audit findings and the revised Head Start governance policies,

4076
05:34:08,681 --> 05:34:11,484
please press pound two if you're on the phone or raise

4077
05:34:11,484 --> 05:34:17,484
your hand in the zoom app. We have no comments.

4078
05:34:30,836 --> 05:34:35,975
And it passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Okay, so

4079
05:34:35,975 --> 05:34:42,575
should we do public comment? I'm, um, I'm making that little

4080
05:34:43,115 --> 05:34:46,251
joke because there are some people that have been in this

4081
05:34:46,251 --> 05:34:52,570
room all day long, and I want to appreciate your patience,

4082
05:34:52,570 --> 05:34:55,461
and I hope that it was an interesting meeting for you. So

4083
05:34:55,461 --> 05:34:58,397
we are going to move to public comment. Hey, Jamie, are there

4084
05:34:58,397 --> 05:35:02,534
any public comments that are not on today's agenda? But, um,

4085
05:35:02,534 --> 05:35:06,271
for the Board of Supervisors? Yes, chair Bergus, there are we

4086
05:35:06,271 --> 05:35:09,542
have comments in chambers. If there are any callers or zoom

4087
05:35:09,542 --> 05:35:12,277
participants, please press pound two. If you're on the

4088
05:35:12,277 --> 05:35:17,483
phone or raise your hand in the zoom app. And we will start

4089
05:35:17,483 --> 05:35:21,153
with our comments in chambers. The first comment is, Pamela,

4090
05:35:21,153 --> 05:35:27,153
please come to the podium. Thank you very much. Good

4091
05:35:27,159 --> 05:35:29,280
afternoon. Chair Bergus.

4092
05:35:29,280 --> 05:35:29,695
Members. It's.

4093
05:35:29,695 --> 05:35:31,697
Great to see you. It was a delight.

4094
05:35:31,697 --> 05:35:33,966
Actually, to be in chambers today to get to hear the work.

4095
05:35:33,966 --> 05:35:36,302
That you're helping. Make possible in our county.

4096
05:35:36,302 --> 05:35:38,237
I'm Pamela. Ralston, I'm the president of.

4097
05:35:38,237 --> 05:35:42,707
Los Madonnas College, and I'm here today in partnership with

4098
05:35:42,707 --> 05:35:47,579
the Antioch Chamber of Commerce. As we open the 2026

4099
05:35:47,579 --> 05:35:51,984
proposal for the East Contra Costa County nonprofit capacity

4100
05:35:51,984 --> 05:35:53,984
building Initiative.. Whew!

4101
05:35:53,986 --> 05:35:59,191
It's pretty exciting. And we're thrilled that our press release

4102
05:35:59,191 --> 05:36:02,795
went out today. The website is live. We welcome applications

4103
05:36:02,795 --> 05:36:05,864
through October 18th, and we plan to announce the grant

4104
05:36:05,864 --> 05:36:10,335
awards the week of November 2nd. We will award at least 12

4105
05:36:10,335 --> 05:36:15,608
sub grants ranging from 10,000 to $20,000. This is a private

4106
05:36:15,608 --> 05:36:18,877
public partnership intended to strengthen nonprofits and

4107
05:36:18,877 --> 05:36:21,947
community leadership in our region. The funding comes from

4108
05:36:21,947 --> 05:36:25,685
the $1 million investment from Contra Costa County Measure X

4109
05:36:25,685 --> 05:36:29,154
that was passed in 2020, and it's designed to serve the

4110
05:36:29,154 --> 05:36:32,825
communities of Antioch, Bay point, Brentwood, Byron,

4111
05:36:32,825 --> 05:36:36,161
discovery Bay Knights and Oakley and Pittsburgh. This

4112
05:36:36,161 --> 05:36:40,961
initiative this year will provide $240,000 in sub grants

4113
05:36:41,500 --> 05:36:44,703
to support organizational capacity, strengthen the

4114
05:36:44,703 --> 05:36:48,240
nonprofit sector, and develop the next generation of our

4115
05:36:48,240 --> 05:36:52,911
amazing nonprofit leaders, projects include those aimed at

4116
05:36:52,911 --> 05:36:55,311
improving organizational effectiveness, sustainability

4117
05:36:56,181 --> 05:36:58,984
and infrastructure, and those intended to increase

4118
05:36:58,984 --> 05:37:02,595
opportunities for paid internships that help build our

4119
05:37:02,595 --> 05:37:06,533
workforce pipeline. Since receiving the grant in October

4120
05:37:06,533 --> 05:37:09,735
of last year, we have an established we have established

4121
05:37:09,735 --> 05:37:13,540
an advisory board that includes dozens of community

4122
05:37:13,540 --> 05:37:17,143
stakeholders and experts from across our region. We have

4123
05:37:17,143 --> 05:37:20,413
hired grant coordinator Cole Martin, who works closely with

4124
05:37:20,413 --> 05:37:23,215
the Antioch Chamber of Commerce, on reviewing and

4125
05:37:23,215 --> 05:37:26,619
awarding the sub grants. Local also collaborates with our

4126
05:37:26,619 --> 05:37:29,355
workforce and economic Development Manager in Career

4127
05:37:29,355 --> 05:37:32,910
and technical education. Bill Bankhead is here with me today

4128
05:37:32,910 --> 05:37:34,894
and our senior Dean of diversity, equity, Inclusion

4129
05:37:34,894 --> 05:37:37,430
and Belonging, Doctor Rosa Armendariz, who sends her

4130
05:37:37,430 --> 05:37:41,434
regrets, as does the Cole Martin. Um, we'll all be here

4131
05:37:41,434 --> 05:37:45,504
together when we get a chance to produce a presentation on

4132
05:37:45,504 --> 05:37:49,709
our annual report that will be working with, uh, getting on

4133
05:37:49,709 --> 05:37:53,379
your your schedule for the rest of this year. And finally, we

4134
05:37:53,379 --> 05:37:56,382
have created eight week classes for academic credit that

4135
05:37:56,382 --> 05:37:59,318
stacked toward a nonprofit management certificate and

4136
05:37:59,318 --> 05:38:02,522
toward associate degrees. And we look forward to bringing in

4137
05:38:02,522 --> 05:38:06,126
our first cohort of students this coming spring. I look

4138
05:38:06,126 --> 05:38:09,396
forward to providing you a more formal presentation later this

4139
05:38:09,396 --> 05:38:12,265
fall. And thank you very much for your time.

4140
05:38:12,265 --> 05:38:18,471
Thank you so much. Um, this was a project that I originally

4141
05:38:18,471 --> 05:38:23,271
recommended, and Supervisor Glover supported, and so this

4142
05:38:24,811 --> 05:38:29,820
is really meaningful for East County. And I'm just thank you

4143
05:38:29,820 --> 05:38:31,550
for all the hard work. And thanks for waiting all day to

4144
05:38:31,550 --> 05:38:33,552
be able to talk. To us. I'm always happy to be

4145
05:38:33,552 --> 05:38:35,755
here. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you.

4146
05:38:35,755 --> 05:38:41,294
The next speaker is Maeve. Please come to the podium.

4147
05:38:41,294 --> 05:38:44,894
Hello, Maeve. Welcome. Second time here.

4148
05:38:47,633 --> 05:38:49,102
Okay. Hello.

4149
05:38:49,102 --> 05:38:50,436
County Board. Of supervisors.

4150
05:38:50,436 --> 05:38:53,106
My name is Maeve. I'm here again as a resident of

4151
05:38:53,106 --> 05:38:55,775
Pittsburgh, speaking in opposition to the vile Perseus

4152
05:38:55,775 --> 05:38:58,645
Data Center project, which is proposed to be built within

4153
05:38:58,645 --> 05:39:02,782
400ft of residences near a church and Rancho O'Donnell's

4154
05:39:02,782 --> 05:39:06,652
Junior High School. This project would place 37 days of

4155
05:39:06,652 --> 05:39:09,655
backup generators near homes and a school. On the last bit

4156
05:39:09,655 --> 05:39:13,459
of open space we have in Pittsburgh, and I want to make

4157
05:39:13,459 --> 05:39:17,263
a point about the diesel generators because a data

4158
05:39:17,263 --> 05:39:21,267
center was recently broken ground in San Jose, the Alviso

4159
05:39:21,267 --> 05:39:25,337
Data Center by Microsoft, and they did not get they could not

4160
05:39:25,337 --> 05:39:28,608
get an air permit for the diesel they had. They had used

4161
05:39:28,608 --> 05:39:32,278
natural gas generators which emit less particulate matter,

4162
05:39:32,278 --> 05:39:35,215
soot and nitrogen oxides, which I think is relevant to the

4163
05:39:35,215 --> 05:39:39,552
health discussions that took place earlier. Um, our

4164
05:39:39,552 --> 05:39:43,622
neighbors Oakland, Brentwood, um, have enacted or are

4165
05:39:43,622 --> 05:39:46,493
considering moratoriums on the construction of hyperscale AI

4166
05:39:46,493 --> 05:39:49,429
data centers in their cities. Again, I am asking the county

4167
05:39:49,429 --> 05:39:52,232
Board of Supervisors for a countywide ban on all

4168
05:39:52,232 --> 05:39:55,635
hyperscale data center projects to protect Pittsburgh and all

4169
05:39:55,635 --> 05:39:58,438
cities in Contra Costa County from this predatory and

4170
05:39:58,438 --> 05:40:01,583
speculative industry. The issues with this project do not

4171
05:40:01,583 --> 05:40:04,519
remain only in Pittsburgh. If hyperscale data centers, which

4172
05:40:04,519 --> 05:40:08,390
consume as much electricity as an entire town, continue to be

4173
05:40:08,390 --> 05:40:10,859
proposed and built in California, the power grid will

4174
05:40:10,859 --> 05:40:14,396
need massive upgrades. This will cause everyone's puny

4175
05:40:14,396 --> 05:40:17,532
bills to increase. This is not a done deal. This kind of thing

4176
05:40:17,532 --> 05:40:20,402
happens with developments all of the time. Contracts can be

4177
05:40:20,402 --> 05:40:23,471
changed or be voided until it's built. It's not done. And

4178
05:40:23,471 --> 05:40:26,341
Pittsburgh residents continue to speak out. We need to see

4179
05:40:26,341 --> 05:40:29,210
the creativity and will from our leadership to find a path

4180
05:40:29,210 --> 05:40:32,814
forward. Without a data center in Pittsburgh, the public

4181
05:40:32,814 --> 05:40:35,830
cannot be dismissed and willfully ignored on this

4182
05:40:35,830 --> 05:40:39,554
matter any longer. Stop that to consider. Data center

4183
05:40:39,554 --> 05:40:42,757
construction in Contra Costa County. Promote transparency

4184
05:40:42,757 --> 05:40:46,360
and ban NDAs with developers. Thank you. Board.

4185
05:40:46,360 --> 05:40:52,360
The next speaker is Anna. Please come to the podium.

4186
05:40:58,840 --> 05:41:00,840
Hi. Good afternoon.

4187
05:41:02,377 --> 05:41:04,312
Board of Supervisors. This is my.

4188
05:41:04,312 --> 05:41:08,512
First, uh, speech. Um. So my name.

4189
05:41:08,583 --> 05:41:11,185
Is Anna. I'm a. Pittsburgh resident. I'm here

4190
05:41:11,185 --> 05:41:14,550
along with my neighbors to demand that you help us reverse

4191
05:41:14,550 --> 05:41:19,394
the course of this massive key, massive data center in

4192
05:41:19,394 --> 05:41:23,932
Pittsburgh by the Delta View Golf course on West Leland

4193
05:41:23,932 --> 05:41:25,932
Road. Um.

4194
05:41:26,801 --> 05:41:30,405
Pittsburgh Council unanimously approved phase one for this

4195
05:41:30,405 --> 05:41:34,675
hyperscale facility in 2024. Nobody knew about it. All my

4196
05:41:34,675 --> 05:41:36,812
neighbors that I talked to, they don't have no clue what's

4197
05:41:36,812 --> 05:41:41,282
going on. I happen to be scrolling on next door and I

4198
05:41:41,282 --> 05:41:44,820
seen it. It's at no data center in Pittsburgh. I said what? I

4199
05:41:44,820 --> 05:41:47,155
clicked because I hear it on the news that they're building

4200
05:41:47,155 --> 05:41:50,525
them all over. And I said, no way. And then I started to get

4201
05:41:50,525 --> 05:41:54,162
involved. I go to these council meetings, I sit there and I

4202
05:41:54,162 --> 05:41:57,899
listen. So now I have to get involved. I don't know what

4203
05:41:57,899 --> 05:42:01,770
else to do but to come here and just voice my word. We don't

4204
05:42:01,770 --> 05:42:05,306
want this data center over there. I don't know if you guys

4205
05:42:05,306 --> 05:42:08,976
know much about it, but it's going to make a lot of Z 24

4206
05:42:08,976 --> 05:42:13,314
over seven. Um, after sitting here all day and I see all

4207
05:42:13,314 --> 05:42:16,317
these Medi-Cal cuts that are happening, this there's going

4208
05:42:16,317 --> 05:42:19,921
to be health impact on this data center. And it seems to me

4209
05:42:19,921 --> 05:42:22,791
that people, when they get sick with this asthma and

4210
05:42:22,791 --> 05:42:26,193
cardiovascular problems, there's not going to be any

4211
05:42:26,193 --> 05:42:29,396
coverage to go anywhere to go get help. So this stuff is

4212
05:42:29,396 --> 05:42:33,435
really, really serious. And I'm coming here to ask you guys,

4213
05:42:33,435 --> 05:42:37,472
please to, you know, maybe you can show up to one of these,

4214
05:42:37,472 --> 05:42:40,942
uh, city right now, there's only three of us here, but

4215
05:42:40,942 --> 05:42:44,120
usually we just pack out this whole thing there. The third

4216
05:42:44,120 --> 05:42:48,549
three floors. Um, so please, please help us. And this. We

4217
05:42:48,549 --> 05:42:51,180
don't want this. I mean, why would they want to do this in

4218
05:42:51,180 --> 05:42:54,956
front of the school residents? Why? I just said it's money.

4219
05:42:54,956 --> 05:42:58,960
It's power and money. So at the end of the day.

4220
05:42:58,960 --> 05:43:01,360
We. Thank you. Anna.

4221
05:43:02,577 --> 05:43:08,577
The next speaker is Randy. Please come to the podium.

4222
05:43:14,256 --> 05:43:15,724
I voted. For two of you guys.

4223
05:43:15,724 --> 05:43:19,661
That's on the council right now. And I voted for three out

4224
05:43:19,661 --> 05:43:24,461
of Pittsburgh. Um, Chambers County Chambers, uh, Pittsford

4225
05:43:26,201 --> 05:43:30,538
Chambers. And, uh, I didn't like how it was kicked out of

4226
05:43:30,538 --> 05:43:36,344
the meeting on the 17th. And we got removed. The they closed

4227
05:43:36,344 --> 05:43:40,348
the chambers. They synced downstairs, and they locked the

4228
05:43:40,348 --> 05:43:43,552
front door. That was a public building and a public meeting

4229
05:43:43,552 --> 05:43:48,824
that we should not have been kicked out of. Thank you.

4230
05:43:48,824 --> 05:43:53,228
We can now go to our zoom comment.

4231
05:43:53,228 --> 05:43:56,828
Next speaker is Liz. Please unmute.

4232
05:44:00,568 --> 05:44:02,371
All right. Good afternoon.

4233
05:44:02,371 --> 05:44:05,373
I'm so grateful that I have an opportunity to kind of rebut

4234
05:44:05,373 --> 05:44:08,911
some of the statements that were made regarding the

4235
05:44:08,911 --> 05:44:13,648
sheriff's actions and Ice, um, work, because I think it's very

4236
05:44:13,648 --> 05:44:17,319
critical that there is a that actually we should not even be

4237
05:44:17,319 --> 05:44:21,323
a sanctuary county. And the fact that we have any

4238
05:44:21,323 --> 05:44:25,594
interactions that are negative, um, is because we are we are

4239
05:44:25,594 --> 05:44:28,797
not following fully the immigration laws of our

4240
05:44:28,797 --> 05:44:32,267
country. But I just wanted to mention that Sheriff David

4241
05:44:32,267 --> 05:44:37,670
Livingston's works under the limited California SB 54. He

4242
05:44:39,740 --> 05:44:44,790
has notified Ice of inmates being released as as required,

4243
05:44:44,790 --> 05:44:49,479
and in 2024, there was 577 requests of which he responded

4244
05:44:50,486 --> 05:44:55,286
to 131, and that meant 96 unique individuals. And in 2025

4245
05:44:56,910 --> 05:45:01,363
it went up to two, seven, 24 and about 118 notifications,

4246
05:45:01,363 --> 05:45:05,367
which in a county of 1.2 million. We're talking about

4247
05:45:05,367 --> 05:45:10,371
very small numbers of people. I just also want to mention that

4248
05:45:10,371 --> 05:45:15,377
the work that they're doing, uh, has been enhanced by

4249
05:45:15,377 --> 05:45:19,114
working with not only other state organizations, but also

4250
05:45:19,114 --> 05:45:23,520
federal organizations to try and help reduce the amount of

4251
05:45:23,520 --> 05:45:27,923
stress in the ice. Uh, detainment. And this is this

4252
05:45:27,923 --> 05:45:31,126
combination being effective? Well, yes. The sheriff's

4253
05:45:31,126 --> 05:45:35,797
limited notifications on ice targeted operations. Remove a

4254
05:45:35,797 --> 05:45:39,935
person with violent felony history from Antioch, Richmond,

4255
05:45:39,935 --> 05:45:43,271
Pittsburgh and or Concord. That individual is no longer a

4256
05:45:43,271 --> 05:45:47,409
re-offending here, so every removal strengthens our public

4257
05:45:47,409 --> 05:45:51,547
safety. Um, regarding impacts on legal citizens and broader

4258
05:45:51,547 --> 05:45:55,951
community. While ISIS community enforcement has nationally and

4259
05:45:55,951 --> 05:45:58,686
elsewhere in California produced documented cases of

4260
05:45:58,686 --> 05:46:02,505
U.S. citizens being questioned, briefly detained, or affected

4261
05:46:02,505 --> 05:46:04,505
during. A..

4262
05:46:04,908 --> 05:46:09,108
The next speaker is Felicia. Please unmute.

4263
05:46:10,980 --> 05:46:14,450
Hello once again, Felicia Williams, uh, from California

4264
05:46:14,450 --> 05:46:17,186
Statewide Community Development Authority. And I just wanted to

4265
05:46:17,186 --> 05:46:20,724
ask a question about item C 29 that was removed from the

4266
05:46:20,724 --> 05:46:24,994
consent calendar. Um, if that will come to a future agenda or

4267
05:46:24,994 --> 05:46:27,263
if there's any further discussion. That was my only

4268
05:46:27,263 --> 05:46:32,663
question. Thank you. The next speaker is zoom user.

4269
05:46:33,203 --> 05:46:38,300
Please unmute. To user, please go ahead with

4270
05:46:44,747 --> 05:46:50,286
your comment. Hi. Hello. Um, I wanted to join the call asking

4271
05:46:50,286 --> 05:46:54,557
for a countywide ban on data centers in Contra Costa County.

4272
05:46:54,557 --> 05:46:57,894
Hyperscale AI data centers are not inevitable, and we need to

4273
05:46:57,894 --> 05:47:00,296
mitigate the harm that will come to the health of our

4274
05:47:00,296 --> 05:47:03,700
working families, as well as the impact on jobs and our

4275
05:47:03,700 --> 05:47:07,236
vulnerable and underserved communities. Pittsburgh is a

4276
05:47:07,236 --> 05:47:11,107
diverse, uh, tight knit community, and it's been

4277
05:47:11,107 --> 05:47:15,111
disheartening to see how little conversation has been going on

4278
05:47:15,111 --> 05:47:19,649
within the city between council and our community members. I'm

4279
05:47:19,649 --> 05:47:23,853
asking especially to the Board of Supervisors who have ties to

4280
05:47:23,853 --> 05:47:28,191
Pittsburgh, to figure out a way to work between our communities

4281
05:47:28,191 --> 05:47:33,262
and to ban these data centers, add a moratorium on all future

4282
05:47:33,262 --> 05:47:38,620
projects. Thank you. There are no more comments.

4283
05:47:38,601 --> 05:47:45,608
Great. Thank you. Uh, let's see, we are to the end of this

4284
05:47:45,608 --> 05:47:53,408
meeting. I'm trying to get to my agenda. Here we go. Um, we

4285
05:47:53,950 --> 05:48:01,150
are there any board reports? I don't hear any. All right. We

4286
05:48:02,892 --> 05:48:07,163
will be adjourning in memory of Mary Ann Mason, our former

4287
05:48:07,163 --> 05:48:13,703
county council. We send our love to all of those that loved

4288
05:48:13,703 --> 05:48:17,303
her. And this meeting is adjourned.