1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,520 call the we're going to open the meeting 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,400 here at 8:22 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,440 and um 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,320 the first order of business 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,559 is to review the minutes of October 7th, 6 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:20,470 2025. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,920 » We got a first 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,480 >> second. 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,720 All those in favor approve the 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,439 minutes. 11 00:00:27,439 --> 00:00:29,119 >> 300. 12 00:00:29,119 --> 00:00:32,480 >> Financial statements. Warrants. Shelley. 13 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:34,800 >> Uh, since the October 7th meeting, 38 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,719 warrants were signed electronically 15 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:41,270 totaling $235,79.66. 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,200 I did send you the general fund expense 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,800 report. There's nothing new to be 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,360 concerned about. We have about $180,000 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,879 left to get us through the rest of the 20 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:51,200 year. So, we're closely monitoring the 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,879 accounts to make sure that we don't have 22 00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:54,800 any major overages and we can balance 23 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 the budget, but right now things seem 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,239 like we're in good. 25 00:00:58,239 --> 00:01:00,559 >> Excellent. 26 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:07,910 >> Thank you so 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,880 um hope everyone got my Sunday. 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,000 >> Y so transition back was great. Student 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,159 absences were really following. It's 30 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:18,720 been pretty low. the January highlights. 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,119 Not a whole lot to report as we enter 32 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:24,400 the new year assessments coming up. So 33 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,320 by the next uh school committee meeting, 34 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,920 I'll be able to provide information on 35 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,000 the data. Um but we have some great 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,240 things to come work 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,960 and I also include 38 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,680 for you. 39 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,880 Sweet. Thank you. Thank you. 40 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,119 All right. 41 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:47,109 public comment. 42 00:01:47,119 --> 00:01:49,200 We have Kate in the room. No one's 43 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,600 storming down the door. All right. And 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,759 un business is none. And then we got a 45 00:01:55,759 --> 00:01:59,990 cat's butt on the screen. 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 And all right, new business. And this is 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,119 actually the big business of the 48 00:02:03,119 --> 00:02:05,439 meeting. So as we cruise along here, but 49 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:07,920 is the budget discussion, the initial 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,160 discussion of the budget. So um 51 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:21,350 share 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,830 and then explain. 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,360 » All right. 54 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,959 I'm going to go through this 55 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:31,440 really quickly. Um 56 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,599 there's a lot of good info for us to 57 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:35,200 talk about, but this is just the first 58 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,000 pass. And the nice thing about Conway 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,160 whose town meeting is not till June. So 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,239 we have plenty of time to go through the 61 00:02:42,239 --> 00:02:44,640 budget process. Technically we have a 62 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:47,120 March vote on the calendar. Um if we're 63 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,800 not ready to make decisions by then we 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,560 can push it off. So um Conway's not in 65 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,120 the worst shape out of the elementary 66 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,280 schools this year. Can you get to the 67 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,640 We're going to start talking about level 68 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:03,280 service budget as we always do. Um, all 69 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,159 of the elementary schools are above 5% 70 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:08,319 for level service budget. So, just as a 71 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:10,080 quick reminder, level service does not 72 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,400 mean level funding. Uh, level service 73 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,319 means that we've replicated staffing and 74 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,319 programs from the prior year in the new 75 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:19,280 budget, but there's always for at a 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,080 minimum wages for COLA. So, the level 77 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,879 service budget comes in at 5.71% 78 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,680 or just about 133,000. 79 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,120 These are the different expense 80 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,959 categories captured within the budget. 81 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:32,879 And you'll see these categories in your 82 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:34,720 monthly expense reports, which is why I 83 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,280 present the budget in the same way. You 84 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,080 can see in the far column uh the total 85 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 growth there. Uh the growth would 86 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,360 include wages and non-wage expenditures, 87 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,879 which we're going to break down in the 88 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,840 next couple of slides. But overall, um 89 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 it's right now about a 50/50 split as 90 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,319 far as what the growth is, whether it's 91 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:56,640 wage or non-wage. And we don't typically 92 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,799 have a significant level of non-wage 93 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:01,040 growth at Conway Grammar School, but 94 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,959 there is one thing impacting us this 95 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:04,879 year. So the next slide we're going to 96 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:06,799 talk about uh wages. So let's look at 97 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:10,400 that first. Of that 5.71% 98 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,000 3.04 is who the wage obligations. So 99 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,920 we've taken into account all of our 100 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,560 non-union staff and contracts. So, 101 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,680 secretary, custodial, cafeteria, um, 102 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,440 anyone else on the ground that's not on 103 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,240 the the unit A or the unit C contract, 104 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,240 and then administrative renewals, which 105 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,160 would also include Conway's portion of 106 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,800 central office expenses. On the right 107 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,560 hand side of the slide, you can see the 108 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,360 primary driver of the budget growth at 109 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,120 about 58,000 is contractual obligations. 110 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,840 So, that has to do with year two of the 111 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,199 contract. um teachers are receiving 4% 112 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:49,520 if they're on the top step. Otherwise, 113 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,919 if it's step plus cola at three, they're 114 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:55,600 seeing 6.22% growth. And we do have one 115 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,520 faculty member who has advanced their 116 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,919 degree, so they'll be moving a column as 117 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:02,639 well, which um results in a larger 118 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:05,680 increase. And then, uh unit C, all of 119 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,759 our IAS are funded outside of the 120 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:10,160 general fund in Conway. So, IAS are 121 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,000 seeing wage growth, but it does not have 122 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,080 a general fund impact, which at the 123 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,600 moment, this is what we're talking about 124 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,280 when we look at our budget for level 125 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:18,720 services. It's strictly the general 126 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,080 fund. All I will move up. We added a new 127 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,039 step. There's a 2 and a half% cola plus 128 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:28,000 about a 3% step. So, IAS will see a 5 129 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,120 and a half% growth in their wages. And 130 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,000 then we added $6,000 for summer stipens. 131 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 That's based on the prior year services 132 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,039 we provided. Um the structure of our 133 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:41,520 summer programs has changed a little bit 134 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,080 and the need to find a higher level is 135 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,039 necessary. Plus the contract grew um 136 00:05:47,039 --> 00:05:49,199 particularly in the teacher contract. 137 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:50,720 >> Pleasure to say hey Phil I'm going to 138 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,720 mute you if you don't mind. We're 139 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,400 getting some feedback from you. So just 140 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,919 be sure you unmute when we can talk. 141 00:05:55,919 --> 00:05:57,840 Okay. 142 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,000 >> The hourly rate changed for teachers in 143 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,759 the contract with the new contract that 144 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:03,840 we negotiated. So that's causing some 145 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:05,759 growth in our wages as well for summer 146 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:08,160 programs. So we're not necessarily 147 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,919 adding staff or growing the program. 148 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:12,639 It's just covering existing needs. So 149 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:16,080 the remaining uh two and a halfish% if 150 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,080 we go to the next slide Darius is 151 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,440 related to nonwage obligations. We don't 152 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,000 normally see significant growth here 153 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,560 unless there's some major change with a 154 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,919 funding source or a contract. We're 155 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:32,160 seeing the growth under student services 156 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,639 which is our transportation line. It's 157 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:37,039 not actually a growth in the cost of our 158 00:06:37,039 --> 00:06:39,120 contract outside of the two and a half 159 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,800 percent which only totals a couple 160 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,000 thousand dollars. However, we did fund 161 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,840 part of our transportation costs with 162 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,880 rural aid in the current year. Conway is 163 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,919 ineligible for rural aid in um the new 164 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:54,639 year. So, we are going to see a shift in 165 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:57,199 that expenditure. So, again, not an 166 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,440 increase in the actual cost, just a 167 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,800 change in the funding source. 168 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,039 >> Right. and Conway lost the rule aid 169 00:07:03,039 --> 00:07:06,400 designation because the average income 170 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,120 of the town went up. So somebody moved 171 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,599 into town that was making money in order 172 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:13,280 for that move that way. They must make 173 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,039 significant amount of money. That's that 174 00:07:15,039 --> 00:07:15,759 millionaire 175 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:16,240 >> Yeah. 176 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,759 >> conversation we had in the past. But 177 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,000 that is one of the indicators in rural 178 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,919 aid is the amount of the 179 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:23,919 >> the income level of the town. 180 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:24,319 >> Crazy 181 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:26,080 >> which is the general, right? And so if 182 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,160 you take a small town and you increase 183 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,599 it by 184 00:07:29,599 --> 00:07:32,240 >> one or two very wealthy people, which is 185 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,520 my guess because 186 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,160 >> yeah, 187 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,240 >> I don't think 30 people moved in with a 188 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,080 slightly higher income, which you would 189 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,639 have to do. 190 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:40,240 >> And I don't think that the enrollment 191 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,560 numbers changed enough. So rural aid and 192 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,639 chapter 70 have to do with enrollment 193 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,199 and income in your town or wealth of 194 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:49,759 your town. Um the rural aid formula is 195 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:51,680 slightly different because it has to do 196 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,280 with um students per 197 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,639 uh I don't know what the right word is. 198 00:07:56,639 --> 00:07:57,919 I can't think of it. 199 00:07:57,919 --> 00:07:58,560 >> Um 200 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,800 >> what's that? 201 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,479 >> I don't know if it's square mile. Maybe 202 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:04,560 it is. It has to do with you know the 203 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,319 size of your town. 204 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:07,840 >> Um 205 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,840 >> so I don't think enrollment is the 206 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,160 factor here. And Conway has received 207 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,160 rural aid for years. 208 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,840 >> Oh no, it's been confirmed it was 209 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,840 income. Yeah, they wrote me a note. 210 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:18,400 >> They must know. 211 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,160 >> They wrote me a note and said that. 212 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,120 >> Um, so this really is a growth to our 213 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,440 budget and we talk about not using 214 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,840 unreliable consistent funding sources in 215 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,000 all of our budget. We anticipated that 216 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Conway would be eligible for this again. 217 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,039 Um, and you know, it could come back in 218 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,959 the future, but for next year it's just 219 00:08:38,959 --> 00:08:40,560 not going to be a funding source that we 220 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,000 have access to. 221 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,839 >> So that's one component here. and 222 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:47,360 $32,000 is over a percentage point. 1% 223 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,560 is about $24,000. So, um it's it's 224 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:52,720 pretty significant growth. The other 225 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,880 impact here is the central office health 226 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,800 insurance, which we've had conversations 227 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,040 about in the current year. So, because 228 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,279 we're seeing an overage in 26 that we 229 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,519 did not have budgeted from that October 230 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:05,839 1st increase, that's going to come into 231 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:08,240 play in 27 automatically. We're going to 232 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 see growth of 20%. and we have a 233 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,399 placeholder, even though we do not know 234 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:14,000 what the rates will come in at, we have 235 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,240 a placeholder of 20% growth again in the 236 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 budget. Um, so that's a $30,000 increase 237 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,640 right there. So, we wouldn't normally 238 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,600 see this type of expenditure um on our 239 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,600 budget in a typical year. We would have 240 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,360 had to deal with the rural aid challenge 241 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,200 no matter what, but this is another, you 242 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,000 know, 1.25% or so that we're having to 243 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 absorb. So, it's causing some 244 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,760 significant budget growth that we can't 245 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,240 really escape from. Um there's not an 246 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,920 alternative funding source for us to go 247 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,720 to for those two pieces. 248 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Any other questions before we keep 249 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,959 going? All right. 250 00:09:46,959 --> 00:09:49,600 Um so just revolving funds at a glance. 251 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,720 Uh you can see school choice is growing. 252 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,440 That is primarily because we pay our 253 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,519 sick buyback for teacher retirements out 254 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,760 of school choice. That's estimated at 255 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,279 about $60,000 for next year. Um I'm 256 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:05,120 comfortable with this number. We're 257 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,880 still at a healthy balance. I want to 258 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,519 say we're at about $400,000 even after 259 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:11,920 these expenditures. So, we're in a safe 260 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,920 place there. And then you can see 261 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,839 minimal growth in all of the other 262 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:17,680 grants that we utilize in revolving 263 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,440 funds, which is primarily related to 264 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,440 wages. There's no non-wage growth in 265 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,519 these expense categories. And then the 266 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:25,440 rural aid, you can see zeroed out. So, 267 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,279 even though we don't have the rural aid, 268 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:29,040 because school choice is up with the 269 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,120 sick buyback, we are spending more than 270 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,040 we did in the prior year from grants and 271 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,880 revolving funds. 272 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,839 Next slide shows the total budget. Uh 273 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:39,600 you can see we're at almost three and a 274 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,640 half million that 5.71% for the general 275 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,120 fund plus revolving funds and grants and 276 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,240 then our total. 277 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,240 >> Okay, Mr. Modesto. 278 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,839 >> Yeah, I have that Madden thing now. I 279 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:53,600 can do that. 280 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,600 >> So what does that look like for cost per 281 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,600 pupil? You can see our cost per people 282 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,320 at 146 students which does include 283 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,480 resident and school choice enrollment 284 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,640 which is remaining relatively flat from 285 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,240 the prior year. We're down a couple of 286 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,040 kiddos um which is basically school 287 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,040 choice residents are staying about the 288 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,800 same from the prior year but we're at 289 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:18,069 roughly $24,000 per student. 290 00:11:18,079 --> 00:11:19,120 And next we're going to talk about 291 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,560 principal's budget. So part of our 292 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:22,399 process is always considering new needs 293 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:24,079 and initiatives on the ground here in 294 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:25,760 the building. things that Kristen thinks 295 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,000 we might need um outside of capital 296 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 expenses, just regular day expenditures. 297 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,399 It is pretty minimal um but it does 298 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,079 equate to about a half a percentage 299 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:35,839 point. So, we're looking for an 300 00:11:35,839 --> 00:11:40,240 additional $9,500 which is mostly for um 301 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,120 split about 50/50 curriculum textbooks, 302 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,399 which is primarily um consumables for 303 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:48,800 our new curriculum that we've rolled out 304 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,640 in the last couple of years. Uh we're 305 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,480 seeing an increased need for workbooks 306 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,200 and things of that nature. Laura is 307 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,440 going to see if she has an alternative 308 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,519 funding source so that we can keep this 309 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,399 request down. Perhaps she has some other 310 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:04,480 grant that we can tap into that we don't 311 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,000 really rely on for general fund 312 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,959 purposes. Um we are still trying to 313 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:11,279 assess whether or not that consumable 314 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:14,000 need is a year afterear expenditure or 315 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,560 if it's one time. If it's one time, then 316 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:17,839 we could pull the money from school 317 00:12:17,839 --> 00:12:20,000 choice as well and just buy what we need 318 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,120 and then not have to inflate our budget. 319 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,680 Special education contracted services is 320 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,519 exactly what it sounds like. People that 321 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:29,519 we bring in service providers to meet 322 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:31,440 needs of our students in the building. 323 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,079 We are seeing a growth in that area. 324 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:36,160 Everyone's rates are going up. Um needs 325 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,760 of the students may change. So we're 326 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,160 looking for an additional $5,000 there. 327 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,160 So that brings our total budget request 328 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,320 with principles plus level services to 329 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,790 5.8. 81% at just over $135,000. 330 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,360 What's next? Enrollment. So, enrollment 331 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,920 is down slightly in this slide for 332 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,920 projected um compared to the current 333 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,959 year at 146. I expect that we'll see 334 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:03,600 this go up. Kristen does an excellent 335 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,279 job of making sure she can balance 336 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:07,839 school choice. However, part of the 337 00:13:07,839 --> 00:13:09,760 decline in enrollment here is because of 338 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,519 our Wings program. So, if you remember, 339 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,760 we talked about Wings last year. Um, 340 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,360 we've had a hard time finding a solid 341 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,839 teacher replacement in that program um, 342 00:13:19,839 --> 00:13:22,320 since June and Tracy retired several 343 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,160 years ago. And rather than taxing our 344 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,880 existing staff any further, we've made 345 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,600 some conscious decisions internally to 346 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,600 not replace the sixth grade students who 347 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,200 are leaving the program, which I think 348 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,519 there are four or five. 349 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:40,560 >> Um, so that is going to see we'll see a 350 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,720 drop in enrollment there. However, I do 351 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,040 think there is potential for K and preK 352 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,519 possibly um particularly kindergarten 353 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:49,519 and maybe to add some new school choice 354 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:51,120 students in there. And this is just 355 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 based on what we know of the census. So 356 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,360 those numbers for K and preK are 357 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,680 estimated. Um so those could change 358 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:59,279 slightly as well. So I expect we'll 359 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:04,790 probably be around 140 instead of 135. 360 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,800 » Moving ahead, we are looking I think 361 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,880 just at historical information and just 362 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,199 some other thoughts for us to consider. 363 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:13,760 So Conway's budget prior to the last two 364 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,560 years has been pretty reasonable. Um I 365 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,040 think the 2 and a half 3% is where we 366 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,760 would like to be. In 2025 we had the 367 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,240 increase in transportation. Um and 368 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,160 similar to this year where we don't have 369 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,839 another funding source to put that on, 370 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:32,240 we grew the budget which was almost a 5% 371 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,519 increase. In 2026 the growth is related 372 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:37,600 to the loss of ESSER funding. So we had 373 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,519 used ESSER to supplement the budget in 374 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:41,839 the prior year. We don't have that in 375 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:43,279 the current year. So that grew our 376 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:45,440 budget by 5.25%. 377 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,519 So the pass will be at three years now 378 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:50,079 if we move forward with over 5% in the 379 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:51,920 current year. So that's something that 380 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,519 we should talk about. Last year it 381 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,360 really wasn't an issue because Conway's 382 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 portion of Frontier's budget was down 383 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 like $200,000. So there wasn't an issue 384 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,079 to increase the elementary school 385 00:15:02,079 --> 00:15:04,399 budget. We don't quite have a sense yet 386 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:05,519 of what's going to happen with 387 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:07,839 Frontier's budget. The state chapter 70 388 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:10,079 is not out yet. Um, so we haven't looked 389 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:12,480 at assessment and Frontier's budget, if 390 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,720 you've read the paper or watched the 391 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,079 school committee meeting for fun. Um, 392 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:20,560 the the level service budget was around 393 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,360 9%. Am I remembering that right? 394 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,240 >> Yes. 395 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,279 >> 8%ish. Um, about a million dollars was 396 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:29,199 what was in the paper for growth on the 397 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:31,360 budget itself, which is significant. 398 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Usually, we're around 300,000. So, um, 399 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,240 it's going to be a taxing year across 400 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,399 the board. And the town is going to see 401 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:40,000 the health insurance increase on their 402 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,920 side as well. Not just for school 403 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,000 employees, but any other town employees, 404 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,760 DPW, fire, police, town offices. So, um, 405 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,519 it could be a more challenging budget 406 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:51,120 season for us. We might have to be a 407 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,000 little bit creative in how we navigate 408 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,920 next steps. 409 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,360 >> Yeah. I mean, to run off with Shel said, 410 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,560 we'll know the state's budget on the 411 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,800 23rd, that Friday. The governor is going 412 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,000 to um present it and that that'll give 413 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,440 us the the cherry sheets, the 414 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,120 assessments for the town. So, we'll know 415 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,320 where Frontier does is is nowhere near 416 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,920 ready to where they're going to land on 417 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,959 their numbers, but we'll know the 418 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:14,399 assessment numbers so we know how each 419 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:16,240 of the moves will affect what the town 420 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,079 can afford. Um, and then we'll have a 421 00:16:18,079 --> 00:16:19,440 general idea of what kind of income the 422 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,399 town got. Um, and so at the same time 423 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,120 and then start talking with them and so 424 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,360 um about where it all ends out. So, it's 425 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,600 kind of really it's premature um these 426 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,920 percentages the percentages this year if 427 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,560 we came in oh 4% 428 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,959 um depending where you know Frontier 429 00:16:36,959 --> 00:16:38,720 lands and depending where the town lands 430 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,240 we really there's we don't have enough 431 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,360 information to know if it's a good 432 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,839 budget or bad budget based on previous 433 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:46,320 numbers again because of healthcare 434 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 >> um the healthcare increase and again 435 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,079 Shelley said you know Frontier's budget 436 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:52,240 it was a half a million dollars increase 437 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,759 and we usually grow the whole budget by 300,000 so that just on healthcare. 438 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:00,560 So, um you know, we don't we just don't 439 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,079 know how that impacts the town, what 440 00:17:02,079 --> 00:17:04,240 their liability is going to be for that 441 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,120 increase. 442 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:06,959 >> One of the towns picked up the town like 443 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,039 it's like it just we just don't know. I 444 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:11,439 think is it was it Sunderland got dinged 445 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:12,000 last year? 446 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,160 >> Sunderland's had a couple of big years. 447 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,120 Um Conwayley was a little bit high too. 448 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:19,280 Deerfield enrollment is declining for 449 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,120 Frontier, so they'll probably see a 450 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,959 decrease again. 451 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:24,720 >> So, yeah. Yeah, it looks like No, it 452 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,839 looks like Sunderland it looks like 453 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:28,079 Sunderland's going to get a hit again 454 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:31,440 >> because their enrollment is going up 455 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,960 compared to everybody else's which is 456 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,360 reducing. So, um yeah, it's going to be 457 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:40,240 interesting. And with how Frontier 458 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,480 works, just one assessment is very 459 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,080 difficult to sometimes it's very 460 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,720 difficult to drop 461 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,280 how much that town has to give based on 462 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,840 the assessment. It doesn't it's not it's 463 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,840 not smooth in the sense of like let's 464 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,960 say we're going to increase the budget 465 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,480 at Frontier for $500,000 466 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,480 the percentage of a town paying you 467 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,799 could reduce it by 300,000 and they're 468 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,600 still paying a greater percentage um due 469 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,280 to what the state says they can afford. 470 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,640 So it gets um there's still a lot of 471 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,280 work to do in the budget season and 472 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,919 it'll be interesting with our four towns 473 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:18,480 what the town's approach is going to be. 474 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Um, I just have the conversation now 475 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,640 because in the sense of like is it a 476 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,679 year that they're going to try to do 477 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:30,000 um, you know, Prop 2 and a half to try 478 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,799 to increase slightly more because you 479 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:34,240 you're they're going to have the problem 480 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,840 for multiple years. You're going to see 481 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,200 insurance at 15 to 20%. As you as we 482 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,480 talked to the experts for next couple 483 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,000 years before it it reassures itself. So 484 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 towns just can't afford that based on 485 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,600 their current um way income that they're 486 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,679 getting on, you know, growth. There's 487 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:53,520 not as a lot of growth in towns based on 488 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,039 residential. So, 489 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:56,559 >> and they're going to hit get hit in the 490 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:58,400 same way we are with central office. So 491 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,400 even if they have free cash that passes 492 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,160 out of town meeting to fund this year's 493 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,320 overage, it's not built into the budget. 494 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,240 So they're going to see a multi-year 495 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,880 increase next year. Yeah, that's and 496 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,120 that's kind of my my thought process is 497 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,840 a appreciate the groundwork now knowing 498 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,200 that not everything's set. We're going 499 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,080 to see some more things change, but like 500 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,840 if it's an ongoing expense, you can't 501 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,600 sweep it under the rug one year because 502 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,960 then you have to like you just said, you 503 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,799 have a multi-year increase the next 504 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:25,840 year. 505 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,440 >> Yeah. So, 506 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,760 >> yep. And so, and excuse me. And so, our process on this is January is just 507 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,480 is like introductory. This is a class, 508 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,400 this introductory class of let's this is 509 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 what the numbers are and then the next 510 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,799 class will be we'll we'll add up on top 511 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,240 of that. We'll kind of refine those 512 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,640 numbers, add more information to it and 513 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,880 we'll build build our budget. All right, 514 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,799 Phil, I see you unmuted. 515 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:53,120 >> Yeah. So, um just first of all, you 516 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,880 know, every every year I am I am so 517 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,679 impressed with your budget presentation 518 00:19:57,679 --> 00:20:01,360 and your budget uh the work that you do 519 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,360 on it. I just want to say that before I 520 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:12,080 get into specific questions which um the the the health insurance thing of 521 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,600 course 522 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,440 you know all these all these things are 523 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,000 not problems of our making they're just 524 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:25,909 things we have to deal with. Um but the the the 525 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:28,799 you know the the newspaper articles etc 526 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:31,440 covering these questions have been 527 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 brutal. the the the school districts 528 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,919 that did opt out of the Hampshire Trust 529 00:20:37,919 --> 00:20:41,360 the um saying that it was hiring 530 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:44,320 consultants that were quoted as saying 531 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,600 it's insane to stay in it and um you 532 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,200 know you can't just do nothing and 533 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,039 >> um the the 534 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,039 >> what's that? 535 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:57,200 >> So we have the announcements coming over 536 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,960 the intercom from the school right now. 537 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,480 >> Okay. 538 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:00,799 >> Um 539 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:02,400 >> so let's pause. Let's pause for 30 540 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,960 seconds. 541 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,840 >> All right. 542 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,909 >> Because we're pledging 543 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:10,799 and to theublic 544 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:14,000 one nation under God, indivisible, 545 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,840 liberty and justice for all. 546 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,480 >> At high grammar school, we follow the 547 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:29,029 community agreement. We take care of 548 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,039 our material 549 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:34,799 environment. 550 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:39,679 We take care of ourselves. We take care 551 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:43,520 of each other. Today is Monday, January 552 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,880 12th. Lunch today is grilled cheese. A 553 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,840 water beneath and and and 554 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,679 the water 555 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:56,559 and bubble means someone is very kind 556 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,799 and brave and brave and you look up to 557 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:02,960 them. 558 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,679 >> Happy birthday to 559 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:07,200 Robin. 560 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,789 >> It's now time for the morning meeting. 561 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,240 » All right, Phil. Grilled cheese for 562 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,559 lunch. 563 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,400 That's okay. 564 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,400 >> Um, so, so you know, and I guess this pertains to Frontier, but it also 565 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,600 pertains to town hall. You know, is are 566 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,919 we going to have 567 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:30,799 the ability during our budget 568 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,919 presentation at town meeting to 569 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:39,200 talk about what we're doing proactively? 570 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,880 uh be it be it you know any of the 571 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,799 options that we've discussed previously 572 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:48,720 the going our own way joining the GIC 573 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,440 whatever um are we going to be able to 574 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,960 have something to say about that this 575 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,240 aspect of our budget besides just we're 576 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,000 sticking it out and seeing what happens 577 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,919 >> yeah I mean I think uh so a couple 578 00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:06,799 things one is the so some members have 579 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,280 left the trust But to put it in 580 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,360 perspective, I think it was five or six 581 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,080 towns and they equal 3% of the 582 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,760 enrollment of the trust. It was 3 and a 583 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:24,320 half% or 3.2%. So a very small number of souls have left the trust. Um and we 584 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,679 haven't seen the numbers from the state 585 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:29,520 about what um which the GIC is going to 586 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,600 go up percentage-wise, but we are told 587 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,120 it's going to be double digits. They're 588 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:36,960 getting hit just as hard. and um Maya 589 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,559 for those you know communities in Maya 590 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,640 they're looking between 15 and 20% that 591 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,000 we're hearing. So I think you're going 592 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,919 to see 20% across the board no matter 593 00:23:43,919 --> 00:23:47,200 who you're enrolled with. Um so anyway 594 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,120 so just just kind of a clarification of 595 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,400 that out there. They're not saying that 596 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,520 in the paper because I don't think 597 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,240 anybody's told them that. Um 598 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,880 >> the we have met and Verique would have 599 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,799 to talk for the town of Conway about 600 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:00,400 what they're doing. I just happen to be 601 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,640 in meetings with her where we have work 602 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,440 working on a having a backup plan should 603 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,159 the trust continue to have issues and we 604 00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:11,039 need to withdraw and um either 605 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,880 self-insure or do a um what do they call 606 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,039 it a group? 607 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,840 >> It's not a group purchasing. It's 608 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,279 >> it's coming together. It's not group 609 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:22,640 purchasing but you're working with 610 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,919 others to 611 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:25,679 >> do whatever. So, we have had that 612 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:28,480 conversations with um insurance uh 613 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,400 vendors, so to speak, so that we have 614 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,279 that lined up should we need to move. 615 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:35,760 So, that backwork is being done. But I 616 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,960 can't talk for the town of Conway 617 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,159 because 618 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:40,640 >> I'm just, you know, knowing that they're 619 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,760 in the meeting 620 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,000 >> to have those backup plans in place. So, 621 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,520 >> so the other thing with health insurance 622 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,400 is the GIC window has passed, right? you 623 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,039 have until December 1st to make your 624 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,799 letter of commitment and then they gave 625 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,240 an extension of January 5th and none of 626 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,720 our towns that are with the trust or 627 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,279 Frontier have opted to go with the GIC 628 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,520 the states program. So that's not that's 629 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,600 not a choice. So really the options 630 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,360 right now are sticking it out with the 631 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,640 trust 632 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,320 >> um which hopefully the trust will have 633 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,880 preliminary numbers at the February 634 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,039 insurance advisory committee meeting 635 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,559 which doesn't 636 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:22,240 for Conway it's not an issue because 637 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,080 your budget meetings aren't till June. 638 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,400 So the town has plenty more time for 639 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,159 Frontier it'll be more challenging 640 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:30,880 depending on when those numbers come in. 641 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Um the other towns Weightley and 642 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Deerfield are 643 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Deerfield's April so they have some time 644 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,320 too. Um so we'll be able to have more 645 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200 conversations about it, Phil. But 646 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,679 staying with the trust really would be 647 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:49,360 the most beneficial for everybody 648 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:51,039 involved. It's just a matter of what 649 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:52,720 does that look like structure-wise 650 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,600 moving forward. 651 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159 And so and also understand so that those 652 00:25:58,159 --> 00:25:59,840 who have left they have to pay their 653 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,120 runoff. 654 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,240 >> Um and the state has allowed the state 655 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,679 has allowed them to take on debt um with 656 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:09,679 new legislation but they're still got to 657 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:10,960 pay the bill. They're just going to 658 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,440 spread that bill out over several years. 659 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440 Um so basically what I mean by the 660 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,200 runoff is that is once you leave um the 661 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,120 trust stops paying for your bills. So 662 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,360 anything that's in cycle you got to pay 663 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,159 out of pocket and so and you could 664 00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:28,559 depending on unless you really I don't 665 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:29,840 know how people can survey their 666 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,120 membership because you can't just look 667 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,159 around the room because they're also 668 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:34,720 talking about spouses and children those 669 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,880 plans. So I mean you can be paying off 670 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,559 hundreds of thousands of dollars. 671 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:41,279 >> Um and so they got to find the money for 672 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,600 that as well to leave. So there's a part 673 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,039 of us like you know um you know trying 674 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,039 hoping that you know there is some 675 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:52,000 hoping that the trust works out. Um but 676 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,760 we also are not naive enough not have a 677 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,600 backup plan. Like I said we c we have 678 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,039 something called a parachute plan. So if 679 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,480 things do not go well um we have a plan. 680 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,640 It's going to cost money. Um but it 681 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,080 won't be as bad. People will not be 682 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,360 without insurance. It's the number one 683 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:06,400 thing. We're going to take care of our 684 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,200 people 685 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,039 >> and you know to there will be some 686 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:15,440 expense but um you know I it's uh 687 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,120 the details of those plans are those 688 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:18,960 we'll if we need it right I'm not going 689 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,880 to take the parachute out right now. 690 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,039 So I I I guess my point in all this, one 691 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:28,000 of my point is that um this is going to 692 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,039 be I um my prediction is that this is 693 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:37,679 going to be the the main issue budget at budget, you know, at at town meeting 694 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:42,720 and um you know, it's going to require 695 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,919 significant amount of explanation 696 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:49,679 uh um which is difficult to do in that 697 00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:53,360 setting. These are complex issues 698 00:27:53,360 --> 00:28:00,480 and Jesus um and the uh you know does 699 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000 the does the trusts uh 700 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,480 new consultants you know are we going to 701 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,480 be getting presentations from them or 702 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,640 anything like that u um any any 703 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,360 >> I don't they will present to the 704 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,320 insurance advisory committee which is a 705 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,559 public meeting and open for anyone to 706 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:24,000 attend and Verinique and Shawn have been 707 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,679 attending those meetings. I know that 708 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:29,440 because I see them on the roster. Um 709 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,440 there may be opportunity for the 710 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,200 consultant to have meetings with 711 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320 individual units if they so desire. We 712 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,240 haven't really broached that yet, but I 713 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,559 do think it is up for discussion. The 714 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,760 consultant is incredible. The amount of 715 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,600 information and support and feedback 716 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,399 that the trust is getting is 717 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:50,080 >> nothing like I've ever seen before with 718 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,840 the prior executive director. Not that 719 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,399 Joe did a bad job. I just think the 720 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,240 tools in the toolbox were not as 721 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,799 expansive and we're getting a lot more 722 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,760 analysis and information and data. Um 723 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,880 I'm less concerned about the renewal 724 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,039 component than I am about the financial 725 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,880 piece as to whether or not we actually 726 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,880 have enough money to make it to July 727 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,760 1st. 728 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,320 >> Yeah. without some other dramatic 729 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,960 change. So, uh, we're going to get a 730 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,880 renewal, whatever that looks like. If 731 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,000 it's 20%, 25%, we're not escaping that. 732 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,919 As Darius said, we're seeing that across 733 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:27,919 the board with my end and the GIC. So, 734 00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:29,760 um, the renewal I don't think is 735 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,919 necessarily the issue, but being able to 736 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:34,640 explain the October 1st increase, which 737 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 is going to hit your budget next year, 738 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,120 and the new increase, it's going to have 739 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,279 to be talked about. And you know, I I 740 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:44,000 would think that people in the community 741 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,440 are aware. 742 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,279 >> Yeah. I mean, we'll I mean, we'll we'll 743 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,520 deal with town meeting when town meeting 744 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,000 and you know, I mean, Shel and I will be 745 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,480 there. We probably speak 746 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,000 >> in the community probably speak the 747 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,600 strongest on understanding it because 748 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,679 we've been really deep for a year. Um, 749 00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:04,080 >> and if people I mean people either 750 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,200 understand or not understand it. They're 751 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,679 going to point fingers, but we didn't do 752 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:10,399 it. Um, you know, you know, it's like 753 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,080 it's insurance across the board. And 754 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,039 that's the other thing that's the only 755 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,640 thing I can see is is I guess comforting 756 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,559 within it is that we're seeing 20% 757 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,799 across the board. So, it's not just the 758 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,559 trust. The trust keeps getting hammered. 759 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:23,840 Everybody's getting hammered and the 760 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,600 trust is still market value a good a 761 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,159 good buy um in comparison to the other 762 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:32,799 plans. And so, when that comes out of 763 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,880 whack, then people will have the we'll 764 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,720 be on a hotter seat. If that if that 765 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,000 comes out of whack, we'll be on a hotter 766 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,840 seat. But 767 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,480 um 768 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,440 >> I I I you know and that's all well I I 769 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240 think though that um because of our 770 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,399 institutional structure and the need to 771 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:51,360 sort of get four towns 772 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,880 lined up behind the budget before town 773 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,200 their town meetings. Um the I I think 774 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080 you know having that consultant me 775 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,399 address a joint committee a joint 776 00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:06,880 meeting of our school committees would 777 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,679 be beneficial um just in in terms of 778 00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:13,520 educating people and um give giving the 779 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000 communities as much information and 780 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,039 knowledge as possible. But um 781 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,520 >> yeah, I think um I don't think it's a a 782 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600 wrong idea. I just think we need to have 783 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,679 what are we educating them on first? And 784 00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:30,399 so the frontier budget um you know is in 785 00:31:30,399 --> 00:31:32,000 holding until the next month, 786 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 >> right? Um so the February meeting will 787 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,679 be um I use the word fireworks but it'll 788 00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:41,200 be fireworks in the sense of um we'll 789 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,399 have the numbers and we'll have the real 790 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:47,519 uh ask the towns and then we're going to 791 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,519 have to make some decisions about what 792 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:50,960 level of reductions are going to be 793 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,679 needed in order to meet you know where 794 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:55,679 the towns stand because again right now 795 00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:57,760 we don't know we don't know how much 796 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,519 money the towns have even even if our 797 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,519 asks are reasonable you know what I mean 798 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,120 we don't know, you know, I mean, they 799 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,880 may have an idea, the towns themselves, 800 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,279 but it'll be a it'll be public when the 801 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,039 governor puts the budget out. And that's 802 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,480 kind of everybody I think everybody 803 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,080 holds their cards close until after the 804 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,880 governor's budget comes out. Um, and for 805 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,480 the first time, you know, at Frontier, 806 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,840 we usually don't go public um with the 807 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,360 budget until after the assessments. But 808 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,240 we did similar to today, we wanted 809 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,519 everybody to have the information so 810 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,840 that the February meeting can go right 811 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480 into discussion and not have people say, 812 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320 "Explain to me where school choice is, 813 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,640 explain to me why world aid is, explain, 814 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,000 you know, so we have all those numbers 815 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,440 already came out at that last meeting." 816 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,519 So 817 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,039 >> yeah and I I think you know looking at 818 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:48,080 the the topline budget information these 819 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,840 I I you know I think Darius your your 820 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000 earlier comment about how historically 821 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960 3% is a good number to come in at that 822 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,399 is that has proven to be correct and we we regularly hear from residents that 823 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:02,640 that's a number that people are 824 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,720 comfortable with. Um and but it at the same time the needs are the needs 825 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,000 and um that's that is an arbitrarily an 826 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,159 arbitrary number and I always have a 827 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:18,399 hard time 828 00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:21,200 saying no ignore ignore the needs and go 829 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,000 with an arbitrary number instead. That's just not the way we should be 830 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,039 doing business. But um 831 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,960 >> right, the one thing I I also want to 832 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,960 make sure is that as we if we have to 833 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 make reductions and such, is the plan 834 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,240 more than a one-year plan? 835 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,440 >> You know what I mean? And so that's 836 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840 going to be the conversation also at the 837 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,640 frontier level is that if you know so 838 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440 you know schools can reduce their 839 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,200 services, right, if the town's people 840 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,640 want that, right? It's your school 841 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,120 districts um and so forth. But will we 842 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,880 be in the same boat next year about how 843 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,159 we're funding it? Right? And so, um, you 844 00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:02,240 know, if if we're expecting insurance to 845 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,240 go up again the following year, what is 846 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,360 going to be the expectation the 847 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,519 following year? Because you can only you 848 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,879 can only cut so much services before um 849 00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:12,960 either people walk and try to find 850 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,359 services elsewhere um or we start 851 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:16,960 providing a product that's not the 852 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,480 standard we want. So um as a community 853 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,359 so 854 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:23,440 >> which here has a huge impact because of 855 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,720 the number of school choice students 856 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,480 that we have right so we want to make 857 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,000 sure that we're providing strong 858 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,919 programming and strong services so that 859 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:32,320 we can continue to bring in 860 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,159 >> um outside students can you go back to 861 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,320 the enrollment slide just to look at 862 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,679 that quickly 863 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,000 >> double down our problem right yeah 864 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,240 services and we lose that funding we get 865 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,200 from that 866 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,679 >> you know if you only had 89 resident 867 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,760 students your fifth grade class would 868 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520 seven students if we didn't have the 869 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,720 school choice. So, you know, there's a 870 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:55,440 lot of negative talk about school choice 871 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,200 in communities. That's not the case in 872 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Conway. It really enriches what the 873 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,119 school has for a community. Um and it 874 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:08,400 allows us to have stronger programs and greater offerings. So, um we have to 875 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,640 be careful with how much we actually cut 876 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,119 back. Um can we go to the last slide 877 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,359 just to finish up? 878 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:17,520 >> Uh one more. 879 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Okay. So, just reminders andformational. 880 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480 So, we're looking at 5.881 881 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,480 with level services plus the principal's 882 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040 budget and uh the level service 883 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,040 breakdown. About 3% of that is wages. If 884 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,880 that was our only challenge right now, 885 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,720 we'd be in a really good spot. We could 886 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,280 handle a 3% wage growth increase with 887 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,760 the contract, which is rich, and we 888 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,599 settled at really good places for our 889 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,880 staff. Um, but we have the rural aid 890 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,280 challenge of losing $30,000 roughly in 891 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,119 rural aid and then we have the central 892 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,040 office health insurance challenge. So 893 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,119 those are the major drivers. So the 894 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,280 conversations will continue internally 895 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,800 as we go through the process to see and 896 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,520 weigh, you know, if we did cut back an 897 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,480 IIA, what does that look like based on 898 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960 programming to help? Because cutting an 899 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,760 IIA would help fund 1% of the budget. 900 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480 Um, but we have really have to look at 901 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,800 what that impact is across the board. 902 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,520 Level service, um, I'm sorry, 1% budget 903 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,240 increases, $23,000. You can see the 904 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,079 breakdown of our full-time equivalent 905 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,880 staff for unit A and unit C. The one 906 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,960 comment I want to make about the IAS is 907 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,240 that we did take into account um, with 908 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,079 the wings number wing students 909 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:33,520 increasing that we will have some 910 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,280 reduction in IAS because they were 911 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,040 serving as oneto ones and those students 912 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,079 are no longer in the program. Um the 913 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,320 wings conversation is bigger because 914 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,800 what is the long-term impact of not 915 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,560 having that program should we not be 916 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,000 able to find a teacher which we are 917 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,320 going to post for is that correct? You 918 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,079 said that you were going to post just to 919 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,720 see if anything wonderful comes in 920 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,480 because if we did get a really strong 921 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,480 qualified teacher that specialized to 922 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,400 meet the needs of students, we could 923 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,920 bring in tuition in students again which 924 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,920 you know there's a lot of things to 925 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,000 consider here. I think for me budget 926 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,880 wise the primary one is if we don't have 927 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,640 a specialized program we're at higher 928 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,160 risk for not meeting the needs of 929 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,160 resident students which results in an 930 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,160 out of district placement which could be 931 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560 4050 $60,000 932 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,839 >> which is multiple percentage points. So 933 00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:25,760 we'd really like to keep the program 934 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,400 thriving if we can. Um so we'll continue 935 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640 those conversations. Sick buyback is 936 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,720 justformational purposes. Um we have 937 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,800 that paid on school choice currently. 938 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,079 And then we talked about the health 939 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,440 insurance. So, um, lots of things to 940 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,000 come and we'll have more in February, 941 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,119 right? 942 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,520 >> I mean, we we say that the sick buyback, 943 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,079 sick pay buyback isformational. 944 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,880 It's on school choice, but if it wasn't 945 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,960 on school choice, something else would 946 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,079 be. Um, 947 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:54,880 >> yep. 948 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,160 >> And you know, again, our sick pay 949 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,119 buyback contract provisions, which were 950 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,560 done many years ago, many years ago now, 951 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,560 um, are are probably the most for the 952 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200 union, the the most lucrative in the 953 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,920 state. Um, way out of line with what the 954 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,599 state average is. Um, and again, you 955 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,480 know, the the the the 956 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,000 light at the end of the tunnel is that 957 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,640 there is a expiration date to these. 958 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,720 It's still I don't know how many years 959 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,520 away. Not enough. Um, but 960 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,400 >> too many. 961 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,880 >> Yeah. Um, but that this is 962 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200 >> that's still that for for two employees, 963 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,280 that's a brutal number. 964 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,720 >> Just a budget wrecking number. Um, so 965 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,240 thank goodness for school choice for 966 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:49,440 that reason alone. But um it's that's just that's just bad 967 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680 >> bad terminology. That's a problem we 968 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,920 already own, right? And I think this the 969 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,400 beauty of that school choice funds it's 970 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,560 a it does have an ending sight whereas 971 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,359 some of those other budget pressures are 972 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:03,760 ongoing or or even more significant 973 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160 moving forward. So 974 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,320 um say it can be used for something 975 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,000 else, but I don't want to use funds like 976 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,880 that for anything that's not oneoff at 977 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,320 all. 978 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,119 Yeah. All right. So, that's where we are 979 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:19,920 with the budget since I'm sharing this 980 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,359 thing here. Um, and so 981 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:24,880 beginning of the discussion. So, the 982 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,040 next thing on the agenda is uh the 983 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,000 school improvement plan. So, you know, 984 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,760 usually we approve this much earlier in 985 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040 the school year that the scheduling of 986 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,280 things um wasn't great. And I kind of 987 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,640 talk about this. So you guys had got 988 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,760 this plan a few months ago um just so 989 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,280 that you knew what we were already kind 990 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,040 of working on and Kristen's going to go 991 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,320 through it. 992 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,760 >> Oh, so I sent it out again yesterday. I guess I'll start with does anyone have 993 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,880 any questions or I know you're really 994 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,200 good at looking. 995 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:01,190 Do you have any questions, Phil? 996 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,599 » No, I've always thought these are pretty 997 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,720 good. Oh, 998 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,079 >> any uh 999 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,280 >> do you want you want to just do any 1000 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,880 highlights on it so far? You don't have 1001 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,760 to go through the whole thing, but 1002 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,800 >> I'm sorry. Yes. 1003 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,359 >> I don't Yeah, I never like one. So, we 1004 00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:16,640 have Elaine was here. She's like, "Don't 1005 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,000 you dare read us a document we should 1006 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,640 read." 1007 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,240 >> Um but just kind of any is there 1008 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,760 anything highlights on that stuff so far 1009 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,320 this year? 1010 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:22,640 >> Yes. 1011 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,760 >> Just to put you on the spot. 1012 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,839 >> No, no, no, no. The the main goals I 1013 00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:27,440 mean there it's hard to have goal one, 1014 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,560 two, three because they're all sort of 1015 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,480 equal. um uh foster school culture where 1016 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,320 students sat and families feel valued, 1017 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,480 respected, and connected. I mean, when 1018 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040 you when that's when all the hard work 1019 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,520 can come is when you have that. So, 1020 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,079 that's always front and always appears 1021 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:45,599 on our school improvement plan. 1022 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,000 Diversity, equity, inclusion is goal 1023 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,160 number two with the action steps that 1024 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,560 we'll be taking for that. Um and then 1025 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,119 academic achievement and growth. So 1026 00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,520 under each goal we have many many 1027 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,359 activities but we felt like those were 1028 00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:04,319 the three major areas um for school 1029 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:05,680 improvement plan and we also want to 1030 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,240 make sure that it's um doable within 1031 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,839 because they change from year to year. 1032 00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:12,000 I'll make sure we like to see at the end 1033 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,319 done done done even though some of them 1034 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:15,760 will continue obviously they're 1035 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,400 continuous but those are all major 1036 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,400 focus. Thank you. 1037 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,920 >> Any questions on the school improvement 1038 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,760 plan? 1039 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,440 Um, it is. You do have to vote to 1040 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,200 approve to accept it. So, I'm going to 1041 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,720 need a motion in a second. 1042 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,240 >> A motion to accept it. 1043 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:35,200 >> Second. 1044 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,040 >> Have a first and second. All those in 1045 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,520 favor? 1046 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,079 Three up. 1047 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,160 Um, 1048 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,160 the next thing on the agenda is appoint 1049 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,599 member to superintendent agreement 1050 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,119 subcommittee. So, um, a few couple 1051 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,040 years, three years ago, we created the 1052 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,319 superintendent agreement, um, to help 1053 00:41:56,319 --> 00:42:00,960 create language on the hiring, um, and 1054 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,480 dismissal of the superintendent because 1055 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,960 our regional contract was, um, the UN 38 1056 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,280 uh, regional agreement doesn't exist in 1057 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,839 paper. Um and so we put that together so 1058 00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:13,920 that um you know should you have to hire 1059 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480 a new superintendent eventually you will 1060 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,079 um there would be figure out there would 1061 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,960 be a system of how to do that. Um in the 1062 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,480 agreement it says every two years we'll 1063 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,760 review it. Um there was talk about u 1064 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,920 maybe we should start adding to it kind 1065 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200 of slowly create a 38 agreement at least 1066 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,720 in some of the operational stuff and 1067 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,880 this came out of the chair's meeting. um 1068 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,200 things like the calendar, you know, 1069 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,640 let's say we go to the count, we do it 1070 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,560 at the joint meeting. Everybody in the 1071 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,160 past has just kind of um worked together 1072 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,680 um which is which is good. But what if 1073 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,400 you had what if say Conway said, "We're 1074 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,240 not coming back to school. We are 1075 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,440 adamant we're not coming back to school 1076 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160 until after Labor Day. You know, you are 1077 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,599 your own governing body. You could do 1078 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,319 that." And there was and then the rest 1079 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:00,400 of the district would be in a pinch 1080 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,680 because you were on the same bus 1081 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,520 contract. You know what I mean? there 1082 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,480 would be a lot of work um on that. So, 1083 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,040 we want to kind of create stuff maybe 1084 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,560 again some of the smaller kind of things 1085 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,680 like how do we vote the calendar and put 1086 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,200 that in there? How do we vote and some 1087 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,720 of these other kind of things and so 1088 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,319 anyway to do all that we need a 1089 00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:20,560 subcommittee to do that work? Um, and so 1090 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,560 I'm looking for a 1091 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,359 >> So can I can um can I can I just ask a 1092 00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:28,400 question at the threshold here? Um, and 1093 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,800 because the the rationale that you just 1094 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,480 advanced, these are these are the 1095 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,480 rationale. I mean there's so many more 1096 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,560 of these specific examples. 1097 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,119 >> Yep. 1098 00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:40,240 >> That are applicable. And all of these 1099 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,800 rationale spoken and yet unspoken here 1100 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,800 today are the the ration for going 1101 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,760 full-on K through 12 district. Yep. 1102 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,280 >> Um and the more 1103 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,760 in one sense the mo the more we 1104 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,440 take these issues peacemeal 1105 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,680 the less 1106 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960 um the less incentive the less energy 1107 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,400 there will be going forward to really 1108 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800 address all of the root cause for all of 1109 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:20,240 these. So that's just an observation. I don't it are are we 1110 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,359 you know yes these are our institutional 1111 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:28,720 defects um but is not the best way to 1112 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,599 address our institutional defects to 1113 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,560 really address all of them rather than 1114 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000 peace meal. So, 1115 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,079 >> um, yeah. So, I hear I hear what you're 1116 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,240 saying. My counter to that would be the 1117 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,839 problem with the regionalization 1118 00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:48,480 conversation is money. 1119 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,800 And so, it's money and insurance and so 1120 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,440 forth. And so, um, where these are the 1121 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,599 non-monetary issues that, um, you know, 1122 00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,040 I hear what you're saying that, you 1123 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,440 know, you're going to fix those or if 1124 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,880 you can figure out the monetary stuff, 1125 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,040 then you would have everything in place 1126 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,880 on how an idea of how things run 1127 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,680 together. So, I mean, I hear what you're 1128 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,079 saying, but 1129 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,240 you without solutions to this, we're 1130 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:15,680 going to have more you could have some 1131 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,990 major problems if 1132 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,839 » So, Anyway, 1133 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:25,680 >> I'm not chair. I'm just chair. 1134 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,520 >> So, we need a committee member for this. 1135 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,599 >> We need a committee report. 1136 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,359 >> And normally Elaine could appoint 1137 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:36,150 somebody if 1138 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,750 I do it if none of you want to, but 1139 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,359 » if one of you wants to. 1140 00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:45,119 >> What does the commitment look like? When 1141 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,000 and where? Where? I imagine there'll be 1142 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,280 virtual meetings. 1143 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,680 Probably a couple depending on how deep 1144 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,440 it gets into it. 1145 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,720 >> Well, I don't mind doing it either, 1146 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:57,920 Phil. I mean, I know you do a lot 1147 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,480 already, so I don't mind doing it. 1148 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,280 >> That's fine. 1149 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,240 >> If you think I'm I'm a good fit for you. 1150 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,359 >> Yeah. 1151 00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:10,079 >> Um, you are the vice chair, so 1152 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:11,200 technically I guess you do the 1153 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,119 appointment. 1154 00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,839 I will appoint. 1155 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:16,560 >> Okay. 1156 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,870 >> Any objection? I'm seeing. 1157 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,880 » I think you're the right guy. 1158 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,839 >> That's one. I'll point you. 1159 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:28,480 >> All right. So, we have that appointment 1160 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,119 and um love you as a backup Phil. I 1161 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,520 guess the next thing on the agenda is 1162 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,319 the capital project. So, we don't have 1163 00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:38,319 um we were looking at that front 1164 00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:41,040 entrance and you know, I kind of been 1165 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,280 out there looking at it as well. Again, 1166 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,760 looking at replacing that cement. Um 1167 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,640 my gut on that is it's a bad fiscal year 1168 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,760 to be spending on something that isn't 1169 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,480 absolutely dysfunctional or a safety 1170 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,160 issue. It's getting there. Um and I know 1171 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,839 it's a different pocket of money for 1172 00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:04,720 those watching at home. Um it's you know 1173 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,560 the capital is a different you know we 1174 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,560 have that savings where we continue to 1175 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,119 do improvements but um where I the 1176 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:14,800 difficulty is that either you do it 1177 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,640 repair it or you do the whole thing over 1178 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,760 and the difference in cost was you know 1179 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,960 uh 30 around 20 to $30,000 let's go the 1180 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,000 higher end $30,000 more and so um 1181 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,839 and I don't think it needs to be done 1182 00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:31,839 ASAP so 1183 00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,599 >> yeah whatever I the repairs I haven't 1184 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,079 done to it. I've got it. So, the safety 1185 00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:38,000 issue we made for now. 1186 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,640 >> Yeah. 1187 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,560 >> It's aesthetically not the best, but 1188 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,240 it's also not a year to be focused on 1189 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:42,960 aesthetics. 1190 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,599 >> Yeah. So, anyway, I put that back on the 1191 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,200 agenda to have that discussion because 1192 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,880 it is ultimately your decision. Um 1193 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,839 Kristen, is there anything else in the I 1194 00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:56,079 know we have our capital list and I 1195 00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,280 didn't review it. two floors if we're 1196 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,119 moving along with that. They probably be 1197 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:02,560 a high a high priority. 1198 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,119 >> Okay. 1199 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:04,160 >> Other than that, 1200 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,920 >> Jesus. 1201 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,640 >> All right. So, we could we could shift 1202 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,640 over away from the front entrance and do 1203 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,480 the classroom floors. Continuing to do 1204 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,240 >> um let me just get the numbers on that 1205 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:20,000 up. Give me one second. 1206 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,040 >> Jesus. 1207 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,720 >> That was part of like the fiveyear plan, 1208 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,359 right? Flooring replacement. So I think 1209 00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:27,200 you know we talked about that for quite 1210 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,960 a while 1211 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680 cut and dry in our capital meeting 1212 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,480 discussion. 1213 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,359 >> Yet 1214 00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:42,710 don't 1215 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,440 reading the tea leaves 1216 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,680 is next year. What are the prospects 1217 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,839 for, you know, that I if if if if we're 1218 00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:54,720 saying this isn't a good year, we're 1219 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,040 also saying next year, that implies that 1220 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,640 next year is going to be better or the 1221 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,319 year after is going to be better. 1222 00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:02,160 >> Is it? Is it? 1223 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,520 >> It's a fair I mean, it's a good fair 1224 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,880 question, Phil. Right. Like you how long 1225 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,240 do you you pause for? 1226 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:06,559 >> Yeah. 1227 00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:11,040 >> Um here's the capital plan. 1228 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,520 >> Oops. 1229 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,280 >> Right. We're also not going to lose 1230 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,040 rural aid again. Right. If we get it 1231 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,800 back, that's a plus, but we won't lose 1232 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,079 it again. That's one hit that won't 1233 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:22,640 be. 1234 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,200 >> Yeah. I mean, so looking like so what we 1235 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,280 had in priority is we had this front, 1236 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,720 this is why we talked about we had the 1237 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,559 front sidewalk 1238 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:34,400 um the two plans of 40 to 80. 1239 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,559 But if we do the classrooms for 30, we 1240 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,400 continue working on that. We don't stop 1241 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,079 completely. 1242 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,000 Um, 1243 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,920 we don't stop all capital projects. We 1244 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,240 continue moving forward. We just we just 1245 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,710 not do the front entrance next year. 1246 00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:56,069 That sound 1247 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,319 » Well, I mean, the the the other the 1248 00:49:58,319 --> 00:49:59,839 other part of this too is that we are, 1249 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:01,839 of course, the only elementary school in 1250 00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:04,000 the district with a well, I don't know 1251 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,640 if that's true anymore, but we we have 1252 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,240 our own uh capital stabilization fund. 1253 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,440 >> Yep. And there is the option to do the 1254 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,040 work out of that. And 1255 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,920 um yeah, 1256 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,200 >> that's what we're Yes, I'm talking 1257 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,200 about. Yes, I'm talking about requesting 1258 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,400 to use 30,000 1259 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,119 >> next year to do that. and and so the the 1260 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,400 budgetary impact would be uh an 1261 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,760 associated request to fill to refill 1262 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,319 that stabilization cap in that which 1263 00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:38,880 does not necessarily need to be made or 1264 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,000 need to be made in full or whatever. So 1265 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,720 there is sort of a 1266 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:45,920 >> I don't know 1267 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,880 >> it's not necessarily an eitheror. 1268 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,119 Um 1269 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:52,559 uh yeah. So 1270 00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,800 >> the other thing is is if we get rural 1271 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,559 aid back, we could talk about using that 1272 00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:58,720 for a capital. It could be put towards 1273 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,839 the front entryway for next year if we 1274 00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:04,160 get funding back in that regard because 1275 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,040 using it as a budget offset clearly is 1276 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,160 not the best option for us. We don't 1277 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,839 want to have to continue to go up and 1278 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:15,359 down in the budget that way. 1279 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:17,040 But there is a significant amount of 1280 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,119 money in this fund. I I think last time 1281 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:20,400 the accountant told me it was like 1282 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,920 $275,000 1283 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,760 in that stabilization fund. 1284 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,440 >> Well, the idea was to have the the 1285 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,480 boiler the boiler uh 1286 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,400 >> number the funds available for for a 1287 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,079 major 1288 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,760 >> emergency. So, um 1289 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,760 All right. So, I'm looking at um 1290 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,359 approving that we move forward with the 1291 00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:42,319 $30,000 classroom project for next year 1292 00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:44,880 for capital. 1293 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,240 >> Bill, based on your knowledge of the 1294 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:47,839 town budget, does that make sense? not 1295 00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:49,680 to go more aggressive with dollars, just 1296 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,920 to go with the 30. 1297 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,000 >> You know, my 1298 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,440 um I my my sitting here right now, my my 1299 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,599 take is, you know, take care of the 1300 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:01,760 building's needs that these are these 1301 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,079 are among the 1302 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:06,240 you know, historically we've done well 1303 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,079 at town meeting because these are the 1304 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,640 things that are so apparent and that 1305 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,319 people can really wrap their heads 1306 00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:14,079 around what these are that we're asking 1307 00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,559 for. And historically the general 1308 00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,040 concept of taking care of the building 1309 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,160 has it meets with widespread public 1310 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,680 approval. But um the you know so so I 1311 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,559 you know I would be okay with doing more 1312 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:35,680 but um I you know I don't 1313 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,079 >> we don't have to decide that 1314 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,559 meeting soon. So this could go back on 1315 00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:42,880 agenda for discussion with Ela here as 1316 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,400 well. I think I think that's probably a 1317 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,240 smart move. I'm a little torn myself, 1318 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:47,359 honestly. 1319 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:52,880 >> Um I I hate to have it be just that the 1320 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,240 straw that breaks the camel's back in 1321 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,680 the meeting where all of a sudden this conversation about capital becomes 1322 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,040 a little contentious for the first time 1323 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,280 ever because we have a five and a half% 1324 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,880 request on the budget, 1325 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,760 >> right? 1326 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,920 >> Um 1327 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,559 >> I don't know. 1328 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,720 >> Yeah. No, they the general public 1329 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:11,760 doesn't see the silos of money as 1330 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,200 easily. 1331 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,559 >> They, you know, they look at they they 1332 00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:16,400 look at every warrant article and if 1333 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,400 they look at warrant I mean you have the 1334 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,800 money to spend and then request you 1335 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,640 don't have to request to get re have it 1336 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,880 be filled back filled the same year but 1337 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,480 I wouldn't get into that practice. I 1338 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,040 would try to always keep that backfilled 1339 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,559 as you do as you use it. 1340 00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:32,000 >> And there have been years that it's not 1341 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,160 been fully backfilled. They've done 1342 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,839 we've done a partial. you know, if we 1343 00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:38,880 spend 30, then we ask for 15 to go back 1344 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,960 in. There's definitely that has 1345 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,000 happened. 1346 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,440 >> What do you think, Bill? Wait another 1347 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,280 month, see more information on the 1348 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,920 state. 1349 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,559 >> I mean, I I guess and just to um just to 1350 00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:50,720 Shel's point that, you know, we we have 1351 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:53,839 that that is true. We have the the you 1352 00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:57,119 know, and um you know, I was part of the 1353 00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:59,040 group that originally created the 1354 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,359 stabilization the the cap the grammar 1355 00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:03,119 school capital stabilization fund. And 1356 00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:06,160 Darius is right. The purpose was so that 1357 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,800 if one or both boilers explode, um, you 1358 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,079 know, we we don't need to 1359 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:16,480 uh cancel school to have a town meeting 1360 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,119 and uh, etc. that we that we're ready to 1361 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,839 go and we can 1362 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:24,880 we have the money in place. And so to 1363 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,520 me, the the the amount in the 1364 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,440 stabilization fund should always bear a 1365 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,760 relationship to the cost of boiler 1366 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,760 emergency boiler repairs. That was its 1367 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,400 original purpose. Um but 1368 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,480 >> all right. So I think yeah, so I think 1369 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,079 it's a we we'll continue this 1370 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:41,760 conversation. Um we're just not going to 1371 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,400 take action on this today. Um and we'll 1372 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,079 continue we'll put that on the 1373 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,880 unfinished business next month. Sounds 1374 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,359 good. 1375 00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:52,079 >> Yeah. 1376 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,200 >> All right. Now we're down to reports. 1377 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,720 Chair is not here for a chair report. Um 1378 00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:00,319 collaborative. 1379 00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:02,640 Who goes to the collaborative? 1380 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:02,720 Did 1381 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,000 >> you go? 1382 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,800 >> I did. Yes. It was just a review of the 1383 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,559 budget. 1384 00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:10,160 >> All right. I also understand they're in 1385 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,079 the final stages of their hiring, too, 1386 00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:12,480 right? 1387 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,440 >> Yeah. 1388 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,559 >> Um they're gonna announce that today, 1389 00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,960 aren't they? Who they finalist, sir? 1390 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,440 >> Yes, probably. I got an email, so 1391 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,480 >> Okay. Um yeah, when you get the uh who 1392 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,680 the files are, I'd love to know who they 1393 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,200 are. Um and then superintendent report 1394 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,520 is 1395 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,440 I sent it out as part of the packet. 1396 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,640 Remember was on it. It was just the 1397 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,559 timeline for the budget for those who 1398 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:35,839 curious about how the state budget 1399 00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:39,280 timeline was um and so forth. The first 1400 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,280 thing was but um you have that and that 1401 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,160 is to the end here. 1402 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,119 Any other uh business? 1403 00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:51,920 >> Motion. 1404 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,640 to adjourn. Jared does a first. 1405 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,359 >> Second. 1406 00:55:55,359 --> 00:55:57,920 >> Tori does a second. All those in favor? 1407 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,799 >> I. 1408 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:03,520 >> Thank you. Thank you.