1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,600 You know, good morning, everyone. Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:08,840 » will call the uh County Board of Commissioners regular meeting to order 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:14,560 on this day, August 25th, um 8:30 a.m. Um please rise for the 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,560 pledge. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:23,080 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:29,440 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,440 justice for all. 8 00:00:29,475 --> 00:00:34,439 » [clears throat] >> Are there any adjustments to the agenda? 9 00:00:34,715 --> 00:00:39,120 » [clears throat] >> I'm sure I'd like to make a motion to uh 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,920 approve the agenda. >> All in favor? 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,760 » Oh. Oh, second. >> Second. 12 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:49,880 All in favor? Aye. Aye. Oppose, same sign. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Um at this time we do offer the public for comment to come forward to have any 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:58,720 um points they'd like to um give to us. Is there anyone in the audience who'd 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:04,280 like to do that? I see no one there. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Any Any comments from the board members? >> No matter what. 17 00:01:04,839 --> 00:01:08,160 » Don't feel valued, but uh 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:17,120 » Um looking on to the uh consent agenda, a motion to approve as a whole. We have 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:21,040 claims, minutes of the uh regular August 11th meeting, 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:25,600 uh County Parks and Trails Membership appointment, and Airport Advisory 21 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Commission appointments. Would anyone like to pull anything? 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,600 » I'd make a motion to approve the consent agenda as a whole. 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,640 » Support. >> All in favor? 24 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:40,480 » Aye. >> Oppose, same sign. 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Um we'll move into our first discussion from Land Services. Neva is here to talk 26 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,360 about some work going on in the county. 27 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:56,040 » All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. The few items for you today from our 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:02:01,080 department are items from the Planning Commission's August 11th meeting. The 29 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,840 first is the preliminary plat recommended for approval by the Planning 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:10,119 Commission with three conditions. This would be for a new standard plat known 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,680 as Little Creek Woods submitted by Howard Hedstrom. And the Planning 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Commission first held the public hearing for this on July 29th. 33 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:21,880 There were no comments from the public on that request at that time. The 34 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,680 Planning Commission did table it at that meeting to allow more time for revisions 35 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,720 to the plat that were noted during the staff technical analysis. And those 36 00:02:27,959 --> 00:02:32,880 items were addressed. And then at the August 12th, they resumed that item and 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:38,600 recommended approval with three conditions. The conditions are mostly 38 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:43,400 related to two of the 11 lots are split or bisected by the Gunflint Trail or the 39 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:48,080 new private road. And so the conditions are clarifying that the lots that are 40 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:54,280 bisected must remain connected together. You can't split lot 1A and 1B or 2A or 41 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:59,320 2B. And also that the the parts of each of those lots that are 42 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:02,880 kind of the extra area is not to be improved upon or developed because it's 43 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,760 very difficult to find conforming build sites on those lots. Each of those lots 44 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:11,680 do have conforming build sites and meet the standards in the remainder area of 45 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:16,640 those lots. And that's the the overall is a it's been an 46 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,720 interesting project with Mr. Hedstrom. We began this process in the early 47 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,280 spring time and as many people know in development in Cook County, it takes a 48 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,160 little bit of time. So, this is the first item and then the 49 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:32,560 second item today is the final plat approval for this plat proposal as well. 50 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,720 » Okay. Questions or comments to Neva. 51 00:03:36,807 --> 00:03:42,320 » [cough and clears throat] >> I'll make a motion to approve the 52 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:48,519 preliminary plat for the Little Creeks Creek Woods 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:51,872 with including the three conditions. >> Support. 54 00:03:50,519 --> 00:03:54,040 » So, we have a motion and >> [clears throat] 55 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,040 » All in favor? >> I. 56 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,480 » I. >> Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 57 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:04,400 » Thank you. And then the second item is that final 58 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:08,640 plat item that I referred to. So, um the Cook County subdivision ordinance 59 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:12,760 does allow the approval of both the preliminary and the final plat at the 60 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:16,040 same meeting for the planning commission uh provided that the public hearing for 61 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:20,079 the preliminary plat was held at a prior meeting. So, as I previously referred 62 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,240 to, the July 29th meeting was a public hearing for this plat, which was then 63 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,040 tabled and then the planning commission reviewed both the preliminary and final 64 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:31,360 plat at the August 11th meeting. And the planning commission recommended approval 65 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:36,000 uh with minimal discussion at the August 11th meeting for this standard plat. 66 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,520 » Okay. Questions or comments on that? 67 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make 68 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:45,720 a motion to accept the unanimous recommendation of the Cook County 69 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:50,360 Planning Commission to approve the Little Creek Woods final plat. 70 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,080 » Support. >> All in favor? 71 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,400 » I. >> I. 72 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,640 » Opposed? Same sign. Motion passes on that also. Thank you. 73 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,993 » Thanks, Howard. >> Thank you very much. I was prepared to 74 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,280 answer any questions, but >> [laughter] 75 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,880 » You can save your voice for something else today. 76 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,560 » Thanks, Howard. >> Thanks, Howard. 77 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:15,520 » The third item I have for you is a rezone request in the same neck of the 78 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:19,320 woods, so along County Road 60. Uh for those of us familiar with the 79 00:05:16,919 --> 00:05:22,600 zoning map, this is a area that is zoned light industrial reflective of the 80 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:26,600 long-time ownership of the Hedstrom Lumber Mill. Over time that land has 81 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:31,360 been subdivided and sold into separate ownership. Um and with this request, 82 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:36,040 this is one of the individually owned parcels that's requesting a rezone from 83 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,880 light industrial to FAR 3, kind of the standard residential zoning of that 84 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:43,640 area. During the staff's analysis, staff did 85 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:47,840 identify that uh typically with rezone requests, we like to see all of the 86 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:53,440 contiguous land upon approval of that rezone still be zoned similarly. So is 87 00:05:51,040 --> 00:06:00,240 to say we'd like to see the outside edge of a rezone um shifting, not an island 88 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:05,080 of zoning kind of left on its own from a rezone. Um the Cook typically in local 89 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,200 governments we approve rezones when they're reflective of a change to a 90 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:12,680 comprehensive plan um when it's something that's identified for future 91 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:16,880 changes. The Cook County Land Use Guide Plan does not speak about a change from 92 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:22,040 this area from light industrial to FAR 3. However, with that being said in Cook 93 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,840 County we have been a little flexible with rezones when they're adjusting 94 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,640 existing boundaries between existing zone districts. Um so I've brought 95 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,720 several rezones to you over the last couple of years. Typically it's shifting 96 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:38,919 to existing um boundaries between zone districts and 97 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:43,600 not creating something left isolated. With this request there is an isolated 98 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:47,400 parcel that's left uh light industrial south of the subject parcel asking to be 99 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:52,480 rezoned FAR 3. Um this parcel would create um 100 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:57,440 conforming FAR 3 parcels with its lot size requirements. 101 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Um also what has changed since well so with the planning commission planning 102 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:05,040 commission did evaluate all of this. They took all this into consideration 103 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:09,240 and they also considered that it seems that light industrial land is not 104 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:13,600 seemingly under high demand in Cook County. Um this land has been on the 105 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:17,040 market for a while and it's more attractive for residential development 106 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,880 it seems. And so whether that's a short-term 107 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,800 change or reflective of more long-term changes in the county um I'm mostly 108 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:29,560 going into this just to kind of explain that um when we have these rezones of 109 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:33,400 larger areas cuz let's bear in mind that the Hedstrom preliminary plat and final 110 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:38,080 plat that was just adopted was also an area that was light industrial that was 111 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:42,200 zoned to FAR 3. And so um we are seeing these changes over time of this light 112 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:45,160 industrial zoning getting shifted into the FAR 3. 113 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:49,240 I'm not saying that's neither a good or a bad thing. It's just that when we do 114 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,840 approach an update to our land use guide plan or a county comprehensive plan, 115 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,960 these are items that would be especially helpful for us to have informed from 116 00:07:54,760 --> 00:08:01,240 community input if this is the vision and direction that our community needs. 117 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,760 We don't want to undermine our land uses and the available land for light 118 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:08,040 industrial activities if we're shifting that all to residential area because 119 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:12,520 then we'll see more requests for industrial activities in residential 120 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:17,280 areas if that's not left. So, that's my platform on just re-zones 101. Uh some 121 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:21,160 of that is identified in the staff narrative for the planning commission. 122 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:25,200 So, at the August 11th public hearing, the planning commission did consider all 123 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,280 of this. They did feel that still the demand for residential development is 124 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,479 strong enough and that this seemed suitable for residential development and 125 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,599 they did unanimously recommend approval of this re-zone. 126 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,760 Um and also they they mostly wanted to 127 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,120 identify that um you know, it just seems like there are 128 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:44,960 shifts over time. So, again, an update to our land use guide plan would be a 129 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,560 very helpful component to inform these types of decisions. 130 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,200 There has been one shift since we submitted this county board item report. 131 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:56,160 The property immediately south of the one identified as being left as an 132 00:08:53,720 --> 00:09:01,440 island, they did submit a re-zone application uh from the light industrial 133 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,360 to FAR 3 over the last week. Um it has not been, you know, we haven't 134 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,360 had time as staff to review the application for completeness, hasn't 135 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:12,680 gone through a public hearing, but I just wanted to inform you that um that 136 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:16,480 is one minor change. Um maybe major depending on how you view it. Um I still 137 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:19,640 view it as it's still an application, people can still withdraw applications. 138 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,440 It's still not the same thing as an application being under review and 139 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,600 approved at the same meeting. So, staff's preference just from a a 140 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:30,120 procedure perspective is that both of these applications would have been 141 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:34,320 reviewed simultaneously and then it could have kept this conversation much 142 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:38,840 more linear for all of us. But um again, re-zones don't have conditions. It's 143 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:42,800 just a a approval or a denial. Um so this is recommended for approval without 144 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,680 conditions. And I'm happy to answer any other 145 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,000 questions that you may have. >> Okay. 146 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Questions? I'll go with Mr. Gamble. >> Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. 147 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:59,920 So thank you, Neva, for the detailed um foundation for these recommendations. My 148 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:03,480 question would simply be that uh when we are looking at these, and I assume it's 149 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:08,080 so, but I think for the public it'd be good to know that um 150 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:14,920 we look at in the context of the whole. So you alluded it to an extent relative 151 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:20,680 to the light industrial and residential that we want to find a balance so we 152 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:26,200 have opportunity, but in in the context my question is specific to we see this 153 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:31,080 as we're evaluating it in the context of the whole. So we don't all of a sudden 154 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:34,360 realize when we look individually that oh my goodness, we've left ourselves 155 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,600 short on this end. >> Mhm. 156 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,080 I agree. >> Yeah. Thank you. 157 00:10:38,632 --> 00:10:42,920 » [clears throat] >> Commissioner Mills. 158 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:47,440 » I I was going to ask about the southern property, so I'm really happy to hear 159 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:51,480 that there's an application in and um I really appreciate the the larger map 160 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,640 to to give the perspective of just what's going on in the whole area and 161 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,800 the the whole industrial campus or complex. So 162 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,360 uh otherwise I'd make a motion to approve the the rezone from light 163 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:08,240 industrial to FAR FAR 3 um for parcel ID 53-234-4425. 164 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,640 » Support. >> Okay. 165 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,280 I have a motion and a second. All in favor? 166 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:16,800 » Aye. >> Aye. 167 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:21,120 » Opposed? Any sign? Motion passed unanimously for you. Thank you. 168 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:21,120 » Thank you. 169 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:28,800 » Moving on to item number five, human resources. We have a couple of updates 170 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,800 with this. 171 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,823 » Good morning. I found my keys. 172 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,760 » Nice. >> [laughter] 173 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,360 » I needed help getting in the building this morning. 174 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,360 I was like, "Where are they?" 175 00:11:49,373 --> 00:11:55,120 » [sighs] >> All right. 176 00:11:53,080 --> 00:12:00,320 Okay. So, the first item I have to present today is a job description 177 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:05,200 update and more uh in regards to one specific item on the job description for 178 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:09,440 our emergency management director. Um so, in the 179 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:13,800 for all of our job descriptions and the heading, we've got the box that says 180 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:18,800 like what the title, who they report to, so which department they're they're fall 181 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:25,120 they fall in, the grade, the date it was last updated, board approved, and 182 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:30,960 there's also an FLSA status box. Um so, for the EMD position right now, it's 183 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:36,720 currently um a classified with a non-exempt FLSA status. That's the Fair 184 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Labor Standards Act. And in reviewing the job description, which it's always a 185 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:46,040 good practice to review a job description when we have uh turnover in 186 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:49,800 that in that uh position, just to ensure like are there any updates that need to 187 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:54,440 be made to the essential functions of the position, has anything shifted or 188 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:59,040 modified. Including FLSA status is always something um that should be 189 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:04,880 reviewed and reaffirmed um or modified as needed. And so, in reviewing the EMD 190 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:11,040 position given that the current incumbent will be retiring here 191 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:16,080 beginning of next week, um it it came to our attention that the FLSA status um 192 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:21,560 could be updated and changed from a non-exempt to an exempt status. So, that 193 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:27,480 is the only change that I am proposing um and uh bringing for approval today. 194 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Oh, and I should say this would become effective after the current incumbent is 195 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:40,400 um is retired, so it would be effective September 2nd, so the day after 196 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:45,040 when that position is vacant. >> Okay. All right. Questions or comments? 197 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make 198 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:58,120 a motion to approve the FLSA status for the emergency management director from 199 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:02,080 non-exempt to exempt effective September 2nd. 200 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,760 » Support. >> We have a motion and a second. All in 201 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,600 favor? >> Aye. 202 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,600 » Aye. >> Opposed? Same sign. Motion passed 203 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:13,560 unanimously. >> Thank you. 204 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:18,200 All right. The second item I have is uh bringing forth a contract with David 205 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Drown Associates, which we often refer to them as DDA. So, this is for the 206 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:29,600 ongoing work that I continue to do with collaboration with DDA and the 207 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:34,440 consultant that's specifically working with us and our county. Um so, this 208 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:40,000 would be a continuation of the contract we had for 209 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:45,520 um 2023, 2024, 2025. So, this would continue the 3-year ongoing maintenance 210 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:50,800 of our job description reviews um along with a continued market 211 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:56,800 analysis on a yearly basis. It would be for in uh the same amount that has been 212 00:14:54,280 --> 00:15:03,880 charged for the last 3 years in the amount of $10,550 213 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:08,080 per year. Um that has been and continues to be in the HR budget as well. 214 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,920 » Questions or comments? >> [clears throat] 215 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:17,400 » Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to 216 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:23,760 thank you for number one um taking this approach. I have seen over my tenure as 217 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:29,840 a commissioner such a huge improvement in the uh regularity with which we're 218 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:33,640 reviewing our job descriptions, and just appreciate the fact that we're much more 219 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:38,280 competitive. And I think it's great that it is just 220 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:42,760 built into our budget, and the fact that it the price did not go up. 221 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:46,800 That was really nice. I think that's the first thing I can think of in a long 222 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:50,120 time that hasn't gone up in price. So with that, I'd make a motion 223 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:56,200 » [clears throat] >> to approve of the 3-year contract with 224 00:15:52,640 --> 00:16:00,080 DDA in the amount of $10,550 for ongoing maintenance of job 225 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:03,600 descriptions. >> Uh support. 226 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,791 » Any further questions or comments? Commissioner Gamble. 227 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,280 » Thank you, Madam Chair. >> [clears throat] 228 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:13,480 » Well, this is a a subject that, you know, I've I've addressed before. I do I 229 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,200 do have a a handout. Commissioner Sullivan said as 230 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:22,080 opposed to getting into a lengthy presentation, it'd be good to have 231 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:25,920 handout to support what I'm saying. So, I will hand this out. 232 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,480 There's two pages there, and it's >> Thank you. 233 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,440 » Yeah. So, um 234 00:16:35,611 --> 00:16:39,480 » [clears throat] >> I would respectfully say that while I 235 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:43,200 support ongoing maintenance of job description on behalf of Cook County 236 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,839 employees, I do not support the basis on which wages were established given the 237 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:53,040 county selected for comparison, as it creates an extreme fiscal mismatch, 238 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:57,839 ignores local economic realities, labor markets, and the ability to pay. If we 239 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:02,400 elect to spend more in one area, we have to cut spending somewhere else. We 240 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:06,600 cannot fund it all. That is our reality as a small county with a very limited 241 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:12,839 tax base. We talked about this in the last COW 242 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:17,120 meeting, and I had addressed some of the the issues of why I have concerns in the 243 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,400 comparable county selection in the documents that I handed 244 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:26,360 out. It says when conducting a compensation study for Minnesota County, 245 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:31,520 the most important criteria to consider are geographical proximity and labor 246 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:36,040 market competition, followed closely by population size and tax capacity budget 247 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:40,440 size. So, as outlined here in this handout, 248 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,960 the criteria for comparable county selection 249 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:48,560 geographic proximity, labor market competition, population and scale, tax 250 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:53,760 capacity and financial resources, full-time equivalent staffing, uh 251 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:58,520 housing and rental costs, economic structure, household income and 252 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:02,160 spending, and total compensation. Those are our categories that look at and 253 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,680 there's a narrative that accompanies each of those headings. In the interest 254 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:11,120 of time, the next page here are the uh 255 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:15,080 criteria typically used to determine comparable counties. 256 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:20,360 That's population, per capita personal income, taxable tax capacity, net tax 257 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:25,520 levy per capita, total current expenditures and property tax revenues. 258 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:31,000 Under those categories in the comparable counties that were selected uh to 259 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:36,880 establish our wage base, the top seven counties in the selection 260 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:42,840 we used were the most populous counties. Um and that's Hennepin number one, 261 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Ramsey two, Dakota three, Anoka four, Washington five, St. Louis six, and Olm- 262 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:54,520 Olmsted. So, we we we being where we are 263 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:58,720 as far as population, that comparable counties was the top most populous 264 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:04,360 counties. Two was per capita personal income. Six 265 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:08,760 of the seven top counties ranked highest per capita personal income were used for 266 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:14,560 comparison in the county's compensation study. That would be Hennepin, Carver, 267 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Washington, Traverse, Scott, and Dakota. Number three, taxable tax capacity. Six 268 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:24,120 of the highest tier, that's the highest tax base and revenue generating and 269 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:29,280 generating counties, were used for comparison in the county's compensation 270 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:36,160 study. Hennepin, Ramsey, Dakota, Anoka, Washington, and St. Louis. 271 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Number four is net tax levy per capita. That's the total amount of property 272 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:44,840 taxes a local unit of government decides to raise divided by the total number of 273 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:50,080 people living in the community. Small rural or resort-heavy counties 274 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:54,240 with low permanent populations relative to their infrastructure costs, such as 275 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:59,440 Cook County and Lake County, often register high per capita levy 276 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:04,600 burdens. Cook County frequently ranks second highest in overall per capita 277 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:08,880 relative to tax burden due to high public infrastructure and service costs 278 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:14,720 distributed across a very small permanent population base. Number five 279 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:19,360 under criteria typically used is current expenditures. Seven of the eight 280 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:23,400 counties with the highest total current expect expenditures 281 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:28,120 were used for comparison in the county's compensation study. That being Hennepin 282 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:33,400 County, which ranks number one by a wide margin in the billions. Ramsey County, 283 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Dakota, St. Louis, Anoka, Washington, and Olmsted. 284 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:40,920 And six is property tax revenues. 285 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Hennepin County consistently collects the highest total property tax revenue 286 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:50,400 in the state due to its large population and immense commercial residential 287 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:55,120 taxable market value. Rural, less populated counties collect 288 00:20:53,240 --> 00:21:01,000 the lowest overall property tax revenues, often totaling a fraction of 289 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:05,760 major metro counterparts. So, when I when I look at these 290 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:11,120 realities and and I've done that for a number of years having been part of 291 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:17,480 the comp study that we conducted in my in my first term 292 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:25,800 and in many discussions I I still struggle with this and I 293 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:30,480 as I think you're aware I believe in evidence-based 294 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:36,280 decision-making data that supports that decision. So this isn't 295 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:40,600 something that's driven by an emotion or a personal agenda. It is something that 296 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:45,640 I feel is my responsibility and stewardship to the people that put me in 297 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:51,840 this position to be a good steward of limited dollars. 298 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:55,240 So the proposal that is before us that has been motioned and seconded 299 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,040 um I support it on the basis of a 300 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:03,160 commitment to our employees and I said that in the 301 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,480 committee of the whole meeting as well. If this is something that we value that 302 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,640 we want to set this to attract quality people, maintain quality people, 303 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,000 whatever. Um 304 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,640 then um 305 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:20,000 I I will support it because we chose it based upon priority what our values 306 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:25,560 would be. And and I've encouraged that we would 307 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:30,200 take a look at everything that we are have chose to be responsible for in 308 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:35,720 governance and then based upon our limited funds prioritize those things 309 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:41,240 and if we make this our top priority then we have done that through a 310 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:46,680 disciplined process and then we have to decide what we're going to cut. Hennepin 311 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:53,560 County number one population, number one budget, number one in in tax revenue, 312 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:58,790 number one across the board this year is having a very difficult time and they 313 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,840 are having to cut staff and [clears throat] 314 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:07,120 a lot of other things that are and yet they've got the most money. So, 315 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,120 it's up to this board to make a decision on where we're going to spend the 316 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,160 limited resources we have because we can't fund it all. 317 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:19,760 So, my support in this motion before us is 318 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:25,320 the commitment to staff with the understanding that we will do the due 319 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:29,440 diligence necessary to balance the limited resources we have that we can 320 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,360 expend. So, thank you for listening. 321 00:23:32,851 --> 00:23:37,000 » [clears throat] >> We have a motion and a second before us. 322 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,640 Is there any further discussion or comments? 323 00:23:39,401 --> 00:23:43,480 » [clears throat] >> I'll call for a vote. All in favor? 324 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Aye. Opposed? Same sign. Motion passed 325 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,280 unanimously. Thank you very much. 326 00:23:51,191 --> 00:23:53,211 » [clears throat] 327 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:02,760 » Moving on to item number six, um Firewise with the auditor Brady. 328 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:07,720 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh the Firewise Committee 329 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,920 is planning brush pick-up events this fall for property owners who've done 330 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,480 clearing but need help disposing of the brush. 331 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Uh estimated cost of these events is 332 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:23,880 28,000. We don't have any current grants 333 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:29,440 uh available for funding these costs. Uh our limit our Secure Rural School 334 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:35,240 funds are also limited. Uh we're projecting out to use what we have now, 335 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:39,120 it'll take us into the next uh funding of Secure Rural Schools. So, I'm looking 336 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:44,160 at uh our tax forfeit funds. We had 337 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:48,720 previously authorized these funds to go towards the 338 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Firewise coordinator when we were waiting on the Secure Rural Schools. 339 00:24:50,797 --> 00:24:56,640 » [clears throat] >> And I'm asking to make those available 340 00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:01,440 again for the brush pick-up costs. Uh what we have left is uh just a little 341 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:07,760 over 25,000 now because we've been using it for firewise and it was planned to 342 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:13,400 use it for pictometry, so we spent about 40,000 on pictometry since uh we last 343 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:18,320 used it for secure rural schools. So, anyway, this would uh likely deplete 344 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:23,160 that fund and we'd come back for other use if we needed it. 345 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:29,120 And our coordinator, Steve, is also looking at um every source 346 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:33,760 um of funding uh first of all, the DACA, called the 347 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:38,360 DACA funds. But, we'll look at any of these costs that might fit that we we 348 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:43,800 might get replenished on. But, in the meantime, I'd like to have this 349 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:49,400 available for the brush pick up now and then we'll apply for any refund where 350 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,960 avail- that's available later. >> Especially this year with the fire 351 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,920 situation. >> Yeah. 352 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,840 » Needing to clean up their brush and so forth, but they probably will take 353 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,880 everything that you have right now. Commissioner Sullivan. 354 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:06,120 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just related to the wildfire risk, we 355 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:10,320 have property owners in District 4 who have already piled up 356 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:15,480 the brush and are waiting for this. So, this is work that our citizens have 357 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:20,760 already completed and it's really a practical way to uh reduce fuel on the 358 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:24,600 landscape. >> Commissioner Gamble. 359 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:28,120 » Yes, thank you. Yeah, I think um historically and you can get the way 360 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:33,040 back and find out that a lot of the fires, forest fires that we've seen that 361 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:39,200 have devastated communities within our state have been because of brush that is 362 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:42,880 there to fuel fires when they stop during start during the lightning 363 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:48,800 strikes or whatever. So, I would make a motion to use up to 28,000 um tax 364 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,480 forfeit funds for brush pick up in the fall of 2026. 365 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,960 » Support. >> Have a motion in the second. Any further 366 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,840 questions or comments? All in favor? 367 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Aye. Opposed, same sign. Motion passed 368 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,960 unanimously. Okay. 369 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:12,000 » So, next item is the [clears throat] airport contract for the taxiway 370 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:17,440 construction project. Previously, we approved grants for the engineering and 371 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:23,680 we've done that work and this is for the construction. We approved the the bids. 372 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:28,240 So, this is the contract with KGM Contractors for the Hangar Road taxiway 373 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:33,360 reconstruction at the Cook County Grand Marais Airport. 374 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:39,720 And the county attorney has looked at the contract and and made some There've 375 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:44,400 been some requested changes made to the contract and the additions that you see 376 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:49,200 in the attachment. Originally, you would have seen just the 377 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:54,120 two-page contract and the insurance and the uh payment bonds 378 00:27:52,520 --> 00:28:02,320 and bid bonds. And now we're including all of the FAA 379 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:06,400 uh specs, etc. that outline a lot of the requirements that you don't see, but are 380 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:11,760 just referenced. And some of them are now made explicitly 381 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,960 through the county attorney's actions. And Jean, you might want to say more 382 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,920 about that. >> All right. 383 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,280 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, the contract came to us in short form. I 384 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,200 know that's the contract that the county is used to seeing. 385 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,080 R S & H was pretty clear that they work with that contract on a number of other 386 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,880 counties. However, on a call yesterday, Brandon 387 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Jensen was particularly helpful in making sure that we had the attachments. 388 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:43,920 The airport improvement project grant-funded 389 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:48,040 projects require certain language in there. So, all of the specs and things 390 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:52,720 like that don't necessarily need to be included, but the fastest way we could 391 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:58,480 get this attached was to include everything and then those um 392 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:02,975 compliant conditions are included in that packet. So, that's the reason for I 393 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,720 don't like to make things 300 pages [laughter] 394 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,520 when they can be two pages, but we want to protect the grant and we want to make 395 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:14,360 sure that we're in compliance and the letter of the law says that those that 396 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,800 language and those terms are in the procurement documents and they're in the 397 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,880 contract. So, that's why I made that request and Brandon Johnson was 398 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:27,160 particularly helpful in getting that quickly. 399 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:31,640 » And given the way that um state and federal are dealing with 400 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:37,400 contracts these days, they're getting much more uh 401 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:41,600 let's say detailed in in following we're noticing that especially in the state 402 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:49,160 contracts. So, it makes it makes a lot of sense to 403 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,160 make it very explicit in our response. 404 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,760 » Commissioner Mills? >> I was going to say 405 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,800 with some [clears throat] of our past experiences I I'd say bravo on this. 406 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,640 Thank you very much for the the diligence. [clears throat] 407 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,040 » Thanks. Commissioner Gannon? 408 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,720 » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, I think um 409 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:11,320 anytime you have an agreement, contract, whatever that being explicit and 410 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:15,160 inclusive is hugely important. And getting clarity and understanding and at 411 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:20,000 the point that documents are drafted, that is the point to make sure that you 412 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:24,760 are protecting your best interests. And I appreciate your reference to the 413 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:30,560 letter of the law which sometimes we we just are grow numb to it, but it but it 414 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:35,720 is what protects us and I I appreciate so much your efforts in this area and uh 415 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,606 your department and your thoroughness. Thank you. 416 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,960 » Thank you, Commissioner. >> [clears throat] 417 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:46,120 » One other point I make, we don't have the grant yet. Uh we've made the 418 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:50,800 application. This is not unusual. They always put us in this position. I 419 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:56,880 shouldn't say always, but often. We have to approve the contract and 420 00:30:52,800 --> 00:31:02,600 start even though they have to get um get the work started even though we 421 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:08,840 haven't got final approval, but um it's it's all but assured. So, it's it's work 422 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,400 they want done also, so. >> Commissioner Gallivan. 423 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,960 » Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh given our previous experience with 424 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,640 the airport and the discussions we had with multiple regulatory agencies on the 425 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,640 expansion of our runway, the the 426 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:28,520 this is uh a lived experience that informs what we do at this point to make 427 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,840 sure well, let's get it right and be thorough on it. So, we have we 428 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:36,120 understand it because nobody likes to diffuse their efforts and energies and 429 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,320 resources because of misunderstanding, so this is great. 430 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:47,400 » Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make 431 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,400 a motion to approve the $1,443,788 432 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:55,560 contract with KGM for Hangar Road Taxi Lane reconstruction at the Cook County 433 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Grand Marais Airport. >> Support. 434 00:31:57,207 --> 00:32:01,640 » [clears throat] >> Have a motion and a second. Any further 435 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,800 questions or comments? All in favor? 436 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,120 » Aye. >> Opposed, same sign. Motion passed 437 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,640 unanimously. Thank you to Attorney Peterson, to 438 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:15,560 Brady, to Anne who's on committee there that this is 439 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,240 um a good move forward. Let's just put it that way. 440 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:22,520 » It's a a very important move forward. Um we, if you recall, had a prop strike 441 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,880 » Yeah. >> in the past and we want this repaired 442 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:32,360 and brought forward in good condition and construction should start the week 443 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,160 of September 14th. So, thank you. >> Okay. 444 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:40,240 All right. So, we'll move on to item seven, uh administrator. 445 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:45,000 » Thank you, Madam Chair. So, the first item that I have is the courthouse 446 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:49,400 security memorandum of understanding and non-disclosure agreement. And to give 447 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:54,400 you some information on the the background of this, the sixth judicial 448 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,160 district contacted me, um Mark Coin and Sarah Taylor, the district 449 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:03,360 administrator, um to let us know that the court had 450 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:08,440 secured funding to provide a security assessment for every county within the 451 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:14,960 sixth judicial district. So, they are paying for that and um engaging in the 452 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,880 uh contract with the consultants and are asking for our support in moving 453 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:23,960 forward. And so, with that, we will receive information that is then 454 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:27,680 confidential. And so, want to make sure that that information remains 455 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:31,840 confidential um between the court and the county. And 456 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:36,000 so, they have asked us to support this memorandum of understanding and 457 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:40,280 non-disclosure agreement. Um that work should begin the end of September, and 458 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,960 we should have more information within a few months. 459 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,240 So, at this time, I'm just asking all of you to support moving forward with the 460 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,120 MOU and the NDA. >> Okay. 461 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Commissioner Mills? >> Very very supportive. Just curious, when 462 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,840 was the last time this was done? >> 2012. 463 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,120 » Okay. And um 464 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,200 certainly [clears throat] this will factor into our 465 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:05,520 future capital. >> Absolutely. This So, to add more to 466 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:10,720 that, thank you for that question. So, um I did have our architect on the call 467 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:16,520 with the six sixth judicial district so that we could talk about how the two 468 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:20,399 would connect. And we may be moving back when we bring the recommendations from 469 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:24,399 the building study to the board to make sure that we have the time and ability 470 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,800 to incorporate the recommendations from the security assessment, as well. 471 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,360 » Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. 472 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:31,720 » Yeah. >> Commissioner Gambles? 473 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:36,879 » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. So, um given 474 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:42,399 the nature of this assessment, it's it's not information that is fully disclosed 475 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:47,879 because that's the nature of security. And so, as we do look at this and with 476 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,639 our remodel and all of these kinds of things, there'll be elements that will 477 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:57,840 be discussed that'll be more confidential in nature. And then those 478 00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:59,800 elements that we can disclose will will discuss. 479 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,480 » Correct. Because I was going to ask the question what all will it encompass, but 480 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,920 in doing that then it would compromise the security [laughter] nature. 481 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,600 » Correct. >> Yeah, so this is 482 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,600 this is where you have to trust the process in this one. 483 00:35:11,089 --> 00:35:15,520 » [laughter] >> Commissioner Sullivan. 484 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:20,600 » Thank you Madam Chair. And just for the public, I know when we hear the 485 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:25,040 letters NDA or non-disclosure agreement, everybody goes crazy. So, for the 486 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:31,240 public, just know that approving it for closed security briefings and 487 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:36,760 purposes, this is legally permissible. We're not doing anything awkward or 488 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,440 unfair or illegal. We are being transparent as much as we 489 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,720 can. >> Thank you, Commissioner Sullivan. So, 490 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:49,160 it's basically the the court um providing security to us as the county 491 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:54,440 that they will not be sharing the security information out with anyone 492 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,240 outside of us. So, it's their data, it's their information, but they're providing 493 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:03,160 it to us, like you said, likely in a closed session for information to the 494 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,120 board and to help guide our building remodel discussions, but that's all it 495 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,200 is. >> Good timing. 496 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,200 » Yeah. >> Yes, Commissioner Campbell. 497 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,840 » Yeah, thank you Madam Chair. So, I'd make a motion to approve the courthouse 498 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:20,960 security memorandum of understanding and non-disclosure agreement between the 6th 499 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:25,120 Judicial District and Cook County. >> Support. 500 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,240 » Any further questions or comments? All in favor? 501 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Aye. Opposed? Same sign. Motion passed 502 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,480 unanimously. Thank you on that. 503 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,960 » Next item. >> All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. So, 504 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:44,600 my next item, as everyone knows, um Mike Keyport, our emergency manager 505 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:51,000 and management director, is retiring um on September 1st, and we have selected a 506 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:55,720 finalist and offered a position uh to Ruth Fogel as our next emergency 507 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,800 management director. She has accepted, and she will be starting on September 508 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:03,880 24th. We're very excited about having her coming on board, um but that 509 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:09,040 provides a little bit of a gap where we don't have a director in that role. And 510 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:15,120 so, my request is to appoint Steve Van Ketrix um to the position as an interim 511 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:22,640 director of emergency management from the time period of September 1st until 512 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Ruth is on board on September 24th. 513 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,600 » Commissioner Gamble. >> I'll make a motion to um appoint Steve 514 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,080 Van Ketrix to the position of interim county emergency management director 515 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,760 effective September 1st. >> Support. 516 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,640 » Any questions or comments? Commissioner Gamble. 517 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:46,400 » Thank you, Madam Chair. So, just a a question, we did have correspondence 518 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:50,080 from um our fire chiefs asking if they could be involved at all. And so, my 519 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,600 question is just what was any involvement at all on the part of fire 520 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,080 chiefs >> Um 521 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:58,160 » in the hiring of Ruth? >> Yes, thank you for that question. So, we 522 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:02,480 had one of the fire chiefs from Luton Fire, um Steve, and I'm I'm Duclos. 523 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:07,120 Duclos. Thank you. Steve Duclos um assist us in that 524 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:11,400 process, and during that process, he was consulting with the fire chiefs from all 525 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:17,400 of the different uh fire departments in the county, and um highly supported and 526 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,000 uh the recommendation to hire Ruth and was part of that determination. 527 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,880 » Yeah. That's that's great. Yeah. 528 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,200 I think uh you know, the evidence of being 529 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:32,040 responsive to that is is hugely important, not just for the hiring, but 530 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,160 for what it says in our working with you know, community and people have 531 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,400 vested interest in us. That's great. Thank you. 532 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,840 » You're welcome. And any further updates? 533 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:47,120 » I do. Thank you, Madam Chair. I've got two updates. The first one is that I 534 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:52,000 joined uh attended the county tribal meeting yesterday. It was in Duluth. 535 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:57,200 And um it was a great meeting. There were um 536 00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:01,480 I I think probably 20 some people that attended, so it was great great 537 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:06,160 attendance. Um the items that we talked about was the State Community Health 538 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:10,560 Services Advisory Council. Uh they are looking for representatives from the 539 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:15,000 tribes to join that committee. Um we talked about the OMB rule changes on 540 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:19,560 federal grants and how that is impacting tribes as well as the county. And then 541 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:24,560 state legislative priorities. So, we anticipate having our next meeting right 542 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:28,760 before the AMC um conference in December. I think it's 543 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,240 December 6th or 7th, if I'm not mistaken. 544 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:36,640 Uh so, that will be our next meeting. But um was happy that I was able to join 545 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:41,000 that. The only other update I have is the fact that we have our all-staff 546 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:45,760 potluck tomorrow from noon to 1:00. So, if any of you can join that, should be 547 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:49,280 fun. Uh we're hopefully doing it outside if the weather permits. I know. 548 00:39:48,157 --> 00:39:54,920 » [laughter] >> And Brooke has graciously offered to 549 00:39:51,240 --> 00:40:00,480 bring a grill and uh grill brats. Yep. Yep. So, it should be fun. 550 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,640 » Okay, thank you. So, I need to back up here because we need a motion. 551 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,760 » Yeah. >> To approve, of course, Steve to be the 552 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:09,320 interim. >> Oh, yeah. Madam Chair, I I 553 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,000 uh I made a motion and then we had support. Okay. 554 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,200 » We just need a vote. >> Okay. Thank you. 555 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,440 » All in favor. >> I. 556 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,520 » I. >> Opposed, same sign. Motion passed 557 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,237 » Represent that in the notes that it happened sequentially. 558 00:40:22,217 --> 00:40:24,237 » [laughter] 559 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:32,400 » Right. Okay, so um we'll move on then to 560 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:37,480 employees concerns or missioner commissioner concerns or meeting update 561 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:42,600 reports. Anyone has anything to report? 562 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,760 Meetings? We had a busy August, I know. 563 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,720 » It was very busy. Thank you, ma'am. >> Oh, Commissioner Sullivan. 564 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,760 » I'll go >> Go I have to go right ahead. 565 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,680 » Okay. >> So we started out with our local 566 00:40:52,640 --> 00:41:00,320 emergency preparedness meeting on August 11th and 567 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,240 talked a little bit about the wildfire smoke, the wildfires themselves and kind 568 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,360 of talked about given that what we would 569 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:11,560 like to do in terms of activities both, you know, particularly tabletop within 570 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:17,840 the next year. Um and that was the first meeting that 571 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:20,760 Avi ran for us through PHHS, so that was really great. 572 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:24,120 And then we were involved obviously in the 573 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,680 emergency management director interviews. 574 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:35,160 And then um Sag Seagull Area Property Owners 575 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Association met and I attended that and two big issues. One was about their 576 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:46,640 garbage area. They pick up off of a road off the Gunflint Trail, which unless you 577 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:51,760 have a truck is impassable. And so a second canister has been added by 578 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:57,200 Northshore Waste up by the Loon Lake um canisters and that will be for people 579 00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:01,280 who have a Toyota Prius like me or some low-to-the-ground car, but there is an 580 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:04,840 option for everybody then that's there. And so we really appreciate Northshore 581 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:08,520 Waste you know, free of charge putting that 582 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:14,560 extra canister um at Loon Lake. And then Commissioner 583 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:19,480 Gamblin I attended the HRA meeting and um 584 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:23,440 that was very, very productive um and we talked a little bit more about 585 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:29,920 our housing trust fund and are in the process of getting that rolling. 586 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:33,920 And airport advisory um obviously the taxi lane reconstruction, which we just 587 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:38,680 approved and discussed our new commissioner members. 588 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,800 And then uh last Friday was a Gunflint uh gratitude gathering, which was an 589 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:48,520 opportunity to thank all of our firefighters, EMS, EMTs, all the first 590 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:54,600 responders that assisted during um the wildfires back in July and ongoing. 591 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:59,000 Uh yesterday we had a safety committee meeting and talked a little bit about um 592 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:03,440 with our new emergency management director having her look at our training 593 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:09,520 schedule and do some of the planning for upcoming events for our employees. And 594 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:13,360 then lastly uh yesterday um the subordinate governmental service 595 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:17,480 district committee met and both Commissioner White and I attended that 596 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:24,360 and we talked about just county responsibility and jurisdiction issues. 597 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:27,680 Um as we know, some of those SGSDs are 598 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:34,360 pri- on private property or private road, DNR and US Forest Service. And so, 599 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:38,560 talking about are there agreements, joint powers agreements that we need to 600 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:42,520 put together, but what do we do to ensure that all these unique little 601 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:47,960 places might have an opportunity to continue. So, that was one of our uh 602 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:52,880 discussions, but very, very busy month and um 603 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:58,120 still the wildfire up on the Little Knife is continuing. It's 90% contained, 604 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,040 but it's not over till it's over. Just reminding everyone. 605 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,480 » [clears throat] >> Commissioner Mills. 606 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,760 » Thank you. Uh yeah, I was up uh up the trail 607 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,560 yesterday and smelled smoke and all the weekend smelled smoke and so 608 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,600 there's still there's still smoke there's still fire. 609 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,720 Um but I guess it's over over the border largely is what I understood but 610 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,080 » [clears throat] >> what I wanted to share is that um on 611 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,440 Friday Peter Mark and Siri the commissioners 612 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:32,080 from the EDA um successfully got the EDA through the 613 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:37,200 closing process on the sale of Spear National. So that's big news and it's 614 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:42,800 not done done done done because we still have to you know meet the obligations of 615 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,960 of the sale contract as far as the irrigation and the septic are concerned 616 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:50,560 so still going through that and that's 617 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:55,760 still on our plate but just a huge step um I feel like for for that organization 618 00:44:53,120 --> 00:45:01,280 and for our community um you know it's it's been on the EDA's 619 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:06,040 plate since the formation of the EDA and yeah it's a it's a significant 620 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,440 change and transition across the board so 621 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,640 just want to thank those guys for the work that they've put into this which 622 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,240 has been a lot and a lot and a lot and um 623 00:45:13,696 --> 00:45:18,120 » [clears throat] >> really excited for for what's 624 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,560 » And I'll just add we we've received the funds. 625 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,920 » Then we got them. Yeah. >> The no that's coming but this is this is 626 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,760 the funds from the sale. >> Okay. 627 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,840 » So we received a wire now which we had to have in order to plan the closing of 628 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,520 the bonds >> Okay. 629 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:40,160 » on October 1st so the funds are in our accounts. 630 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,160 » You scared me for a second as far as 631 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,240 accept or or is that >> [laughter] 632 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,280 » Thank you. Uh and I think that's all I I have to 633 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,000 share today. >> Okay. 634 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,120 Commissioner Gallon [clears throat] >> Yeah. 635 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,840 My reports I'll give it public health human services it's on the list there 636 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,000 for Um but the question I would have if the 637 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:06,480 board would agreed on this at some point maybe at a cow meeting or whatever, but 638 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:10,520 uh to understand actually how those dollars translate relative to our bond 639 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:14,440 obligation, the money's received, the money in escrow for completing the 640 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:19,320 things that are compliant with the contract. It'd be good for us I think to 641 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,280 to see that just >> package 642 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:28,000 » Yeah, yeah. To see that, understand that and how what has been paying down those 643 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:34,600 that debt, how that translates into that 160,000. So, just seeing that picture 644 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:38,080 would be beneficial big time. >> Oh, yeah. On that note too, thank you 645 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,480 Commissioner Gamble. Um 646 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,280 kind of following up with the conversation about 647 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:48,720 uh I I think you were alluding to it or maybe said specifically just that where 648 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:54,000 the tax dollars, which tax dollars and just our overall costs historically, I 649 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,800 think just for the total package would be really helpful to to 650 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,360 better understand it cuz I still get questions about that too. Um 651 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,520 how much did we pay versus how much have have visitors paid and we can't know 652 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:11,720 exactly, but you know, we can get a better idea just overall so everyone 653 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:14,120 everyone knows where we sit and yeah. >> I've done that summary [clears throat] 654 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,480 before, so I think I can just pull it up. We're good. Yeah. 655 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,880 » Yeah, thank you Madam Chair. So, yeah, I think it it's it's important for us to 656 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,360 to understand and put it in a context because you learn from those experiences 657 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:33,200 and so that's that would be good. Thank you. 658 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,360 » Yes. >> Thank you Madam Chair. I forgot one 659 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:41,920 thing. There's a piece of paper every commissioner got 660 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:47,080 on a draft proposal for AMC for the presentation that Jeff Brand and I would 661 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:51,760 like to make it AMC in December. It's called from housing crisis to housing 662 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:55,880 ecosystem and so we are working on a proposal and we'll submit that and have 663 00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:00,520 put together kind of a draft power point, but I'll keep you informed about 664 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:05,800 that as that presentation hopefully is accepted as a more than a just a 665 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:09,238 proposal, and then we'll go from there. >> Great. Good mission. 666 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,440 » You probably don't need ideas, >> [clears throat] 667 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,480 » but I wonder if um either one of the Hamilton sisters in the game. 668 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,753 » Oh, they are um on page seven. 669 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,240 » And Red Arrow and >> [laughter] 670 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,680 » Awesome. >> Bravo. 671 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:26,560 » Do you want to say excuse me? You want to say anything about the Mayhew? 672 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,720 The Mayhew project given That was at the EDA or was it not? 673 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,040 » Um just uh it was just an amendment for the 674 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,720 timeline. >> Okay. 675 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,840 » So, yeah. I think that's the only update I'd have for you. 676 00:48:35,438 --> 00:48:40,760 » [cough] >> Still 677 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,720 still waiting to break ground or any further progress there. 678 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:50,480 » She attended the ARDC meeting last week and we're 679 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:55,520 um in a position where we can help people in terms of the fire that 680 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,520 affected businesses, so try to get the word out on that, too. 681 00:48:58,363 --> 00:49:04,680 » [clears throat] >> They're gearing up for um 682 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:08,920 October insurance decisions. The staff that they have there for that. We're 683 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,120 readjusting our meetings in September because it's just 684 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:17,200 everything is happening, it seems like, in September because we're going to 685 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:21,960 Bemidji for AMC, so we have our next meeting in 2 weeks. So, it's just a 686 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:26,040 matter of, you know, making sure we can adjust. Um and also [clears throat] we 687 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,000 um we formed a committee for our bylaws, 688 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:34,400 which haven't been reviewed for I'll just say several years, and so um I'll 689 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:38,640 be a part of that, too. Coming up in um October. 690 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:42,960 We've discussed um we've always met at the Hermantown facility. However, it's 691 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:49,280 um considerable big and um echoey and 692 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,600 always cold. So, you would wear three layers if you wanted. 693 00:49:50,764 --> 00:49:56,040 » [laughter] >> Sounds so nice. 694 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,040 » Right to it. The always cold. 695 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,400 » And expensive. >> [laughter] 696 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,440 » So, we're looking into going to Lake Superior College. 697 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:07,120 And they have a meeting room there. You drive in, it's the right building on the 698 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,320 right side, and there's plenty of parking, and so I think we'll give that 699 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:15,000 a chance. But, you know, this is how we work as a group, isn't 700 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:20,120 it? We evaluate, we reassess, we say, "Okay, can we do different, or can we do 701 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:24,520 better, or can we um try it out and see what happens?" So, 702 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:28,600 that's uh that's where we are with that. Any further thoughts about meetings? 703 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:32,400 » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. The um 704 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:35,600 ARC, the corrections, is uh something that I report on public health and human 705 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:40,240 service, but something we don't normally talk about, but we did address because 706 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:45,120 we're in budget cycle, is that uh St. Louis County administrator Kevin Gray 707 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:51,440 was there, and he said that their insurance, they self-insure as a county, 708 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:55,560 their health insurance is going up 39%. >> Oh. 709 00:50:52,680 --> 00:51:00,640 » And uh they're trying to absorb some of that cost as it relates to 710 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:06,280 the corrections. And uh so, it'll be 15% that is passed 711 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:12,760 on through that that gets passed on in our supportive charge. But, um as I 712 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:16,880 mentioned before, because of some uh changes in personnel and some other 713 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:22,520 issues in accounting that transferred dollars to where they belong, uh that I 714 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:27,480 » think you referenced about 32,000, which was correct, and I 715 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:33,520 So, I it's 32 to 34,000 reduced amount that would be Cook County's share this 716 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,520 this year for 2027. 717 00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:39,520 » [clears throat] >> And I did have an insurance company 718 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:43,400 because I told Kevin, I said, "Well, I had an insurance company to me when we 719 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:48,240 were looking at our insurance, and they're saying just that your your 720 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:51,040 claims are driving your your rate up and when you're self-insured, that's going 721 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:54,680 to be the case. And so they said you just need to hire 722 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,200 healthy people, get rid of the real and hire healthy people. I said, "Well, 723 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,680 that's not how it works though." >> That's not how it works, you know. 724 00:51:58,490 --> 00:52:03,800 [laughter] >> That is I mean that's 725 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:08,240 funny and also though true and that is something that the benefits 726 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:13,200 and wellness committee is, you know, aware of and really trying to get ahead 727 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:18,280 of. How can you help employees be healthier and thereby reduce your claims 728 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:22,080 and thereby reduce your costs and it's it's a a challenge but I think with, you 729 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:26,480 know, >> awareness 730 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:31,720 » awareness, feedback, participation, it it can happen. 731 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:37,600 The challenging part also is really our rates come from our pool. 732 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:41,840 Um, and so you have to somehow have the whole pool kind of get on that bar but 733 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:45,240 every bit helps. So we'll do our part and 734 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,920 try to help do 735 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:54,680 more education for the broader pool or I don't know but step by step. 736 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:58,880 » I I would say that relative to pool to having a pool 737 00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:02,800 is that when we are evaluating our health insurance both in the benefit 738 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:08,000 that we receive and the cost to the county that the pool is significantly 739 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:12,680 better than like if we were in a position of St. Louis County where we 740 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:18,640 self-insured. So distributing it out over, you know, but you're you're right 741 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:23,520 that it's we can't control everything. >> Yeah and and uh 742 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:28,226 I have been interested and still am and attempted by the self-insurance because 743 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,920 we have had presentations at AMC about [clears throat] 744 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,240 I think it was Swift County. They just 745 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:40,080 uh 1% increase, you know, 0% increase and 746 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:44,960 just like for 10 years having that kind of, you know, excellent rates and with 747 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:47,760 being self-insured, but then they'll have a neighboring county who had 748 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:52,160 experienced the same thing and they'll have 749 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:56,640 one bout of cancer amongst their employees or their employee families and 750 00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:00,120 it's all out of the water there, so. >> That's the situation with St. Louis 751 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,960 County. If you have several million dollar claims, you're going to see your 752 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,520 rate >> Yeah, yeah. So, it's it's it's risky and 753 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,320 that tempered by >> And you'd have to understand Swift's 754 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:14,440 experience relative to claims >> Yes, exactly. 755 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:18,200 And the age and all the demographic, yeah, it's really 756 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,400 » they must have claims managers that they hire. 757 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,200 » Yes, yeah. >> Even St. Louis County. 758 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,960 » Oh, I don't know about that. >> I assume. 759 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:32,800 » Yeah, I I maybe we didn't discuss that, but I would assume, too. 760 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,800 When you got that much money involved. 761 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:39,022 » So, Allison will probably start doing that soon, huh? Just kidding. Just 762 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,022 kidding. [laughter] 763 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:45,280 » Um, but on a side note, um, I did hear back from Northeast Service Cooperative 764 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:50,000 uh, late in the work day yesterday and I'm actually meeting with Lauren Sterk, 765 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,920 who is the rep that we work with for our health insurance there, on Thursday 766 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,320 morning to actually hear about our renewal. 767 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,920 » Okay. >> I was ready to write something, but no. 768 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:02,080 » Yeah. >> Stand down. 769 00:55:00,583 --> 00:55:07,133 » [clears throat] >> Okay, anything else from anyone? 770 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:11,440 No? Okay. >> [clears throat] 771 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:16,880 » So, um, I'm going to move down to item number 10, correspondence memos. In our 772 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:22,200 packet, we have the sales tax comparison through June of 26 and the HR board 773 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:25,920 report on staffing changes. And um, 774 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:30,800 I'm then um, announcing that we're going into a closed session with the review 775 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:35,000 one-year review of County Administrator Administrator [clears throat] Trebel. 776 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:39,800 And so, um, we'll be uh, be making a motion to close and then we will go into 777 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,813 our closed session and we will not return as a board group. 778 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,000 So, I will >> [clears throat] 779 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:52,200 » have a motion to close the meeting pursuant to Minnesota Statute 13D 780 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:56,320 subdivision 3A to review the annual performance of 781 00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,520 County Administrator Trubel Hersema. A summary of the review will be 782 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:04,840 presented at the September 8th County Board of Commissioners regular meeting. 783 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,640 » So moved. >> Support. 784 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:08,000 » All in favor? >> Aye. 785 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,440 » Aye. >> Opposed, same sign. 786 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:17,640 We are adjourned. >> Did everyone sign this? Mike's card? 787 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,080 » Only I don't think I did. >> Okay. 788 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,280 » Thank you. >> Yep.