[0:00] You know, good morning, everyone. Good morning. [0:03] » will call the uh County Board of Commissioners regular meeting to order [0:06] on this day, August 25th, um 8:30 a.m. Um please rise for the [0:11] pledge. [0:14] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [0:19] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:26] justice for all. [0:29] » [clears throat] >> Are there any adjustments to the agenda? [0:34] » [clears throat] >> I'm sure I'd like to make a motion to uh [0:37] approve the agenda. >> All in favor? [0:40] » Oh. Oh, second. >> Second. [0:44] All in favor? Aye. Aye. Oppose, same sign. [0:47] Um at this time we do offer the public for comment to come forward to have any [0:52] um points they'd like to um give to us. Is there anyone in the audience who'd [0:56] like to do that? I see no one there. [1:00] Any Any comments from the board members? >> No matter what. [1:04] » Don't feel valued, but uh [1:08] » Um looking on to the uh consent agenda, a motion to approve as a whole. We have [1:13] claims, minutes of the uh regular August 11th meeting, [1:18] uh County Parks and Trails Membership appointment, and Airport Advisory [1:23] Commission appointments. Would anyone like to pull anything? [1:28] » I'd make a motion to approve the consent agenda as a whole. [1:32] » Support. >> All in favor? [1:34] » Aye. >> Oppose, same sign. [1:38] Um we'll move into our first discussion from Land Services. Neva is here to talk [1:43] about some work going on in the county. [1:49] » All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. The few items for you today from our [1:54] department are items from the Planning Commission's August 11th meeting. The [1:58] first is the preliminary plat recommended for approval by the Planning [2:02] Commission with three conditions. This would be for a new standard plat known [2:08] as Little Creek Woods submitted by Howard Hedstrom. And the Planning [2:12] Commission first held the public hearing for this on July 29th. [2:15] There were no comments from the public on that request at that time. The [2:20] Planning Commission did table it at that meeting to allow more time for revisions [2:24] to the plat that were noted during the staff technical analysis. And those [2:27] items were addressed. And then at the August 12th, they resumed that item and [2:31] recommended approval with three conditions. The conditions are mostly [2:35] related to two of the 11 lots are split or bisected by the Gunflint Trail or the [2:40] new private road. And so the conditions are clarifying that the lots that are [2:45] bisected must remain connected together. You can't split lot 1A and 1B or 2A or [2:51] 2B. And also that the the parts of each of those lots that are [2:55] kind of the extra area is not to be improved upon or developed because it's [3:01] very difficult to find conforming build sites on those lots. Each of those lots [3:05] do have conforming build sites and meet the standards in the remainder area of [3:09] those lots. And that's the the overall is a it's been an [3:14] interesting project with Mr. Hedstrom. We began this process in the early [3:18] spring time and as many people know in development in Cook County, it takes a [3:21] little bit of time. So, this is the first item and then the [3:24] second item today is the final plat approval for this plat proposal as well. [3:31] » Okay. Questions or comments to Neva. [3:36] » [cough and clears throat] >> I'll make a motion to approve the [3:40] preliminary plat for the Little Creeks Creek Woods [3:43] with including the three conditions. >> Support. [3:50] » So, we have a motion and >> [clears throat] [3:52] » All in favor? >> I. [3:54] » I. >> Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. [3:58] » Thank you. And then the second item is that final [4:01] plat item that I referred to. So, um the Cook County subdivision ordinance [4:06] does allow the approval of both the preliminary and the final plat at the [4:10] same meeting for the planning commission uh provided that the public hearing for [4:14] the preliminary plat was held at a prior meeting. So, as I previously referred [4:18] to, the July 29th meeting was a public hearing for this plat, which was then [4:21] tabled and then the planning commission reviewed both the preliminary and final [4:24] plat at the August 11th meeting. And the planning commission recommended approval [4:29] uh with minimal discussion at the August 11th meeting for this standard plat. [4:34] » Okay. Questions or comments on that? [4:38] Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make [4:40] a motion to accept the unanimous recommendation of the Cook County [4:44] Planning Commission to approve the Little Creek Woods final plat. [4:48] » Support. >> All in favor? [4:51] » I. >> I. [4:52] » Opposed? Same sign. Motion passes on that also. Thank you. [4:56] » Thanks, Howard. >> Thank you very much. I was prepared to [4:58] answer any questions, but >> [laughter] [5:00] » You can save your voice for something else today. [5:05] » Thanks, Howard. >> Thanks, Howard. [5:07] » The third item I have for you is a rezone request in the same neck of the [5:12] woods, so along County Road 60. Uh for those of us familiar with the [5:16] zoning map, this is a area that is zoned light industrial reflective of the [5:20] long-time ownership of the Hedstrom Lumber Mill. Over time that land has [5:24] been subdivided and sold into separate ownership. Um and with this request, [5:29] this is one of the individually owned parcels that's requesting a rezone from [5:33] light industrial to FAR 3, kind of the standard residential zoning of that [5:37] area. During the staff's analysis, staff did [5:41] identify that uh typically with rezone requests, we like to see all of the [5:45] contiguous land upon approval of that rezone still be zoned similarly. So is [5:51] to say we'd like to see the outside edge of a rezone um shifting, not an island [5:57] of zoning kind of left on its own from a rezone. Um the Cook typically in local [6:03] governments we approve rezones when they're reflective of a change to a [6:06] comprehensive plan um when it's something that's identified for future [6:09] changes. The Cook County Land Use Guide Plan does not speak about a change from [6:14] this area from light industrial to FAR 3. However, with that being said in Cook [6:19] County we have been a little flexible with rezones when they're adjusting [6:23] existing boundaries between existing zone districts. Um so I've brought [6:28] several rezones to you over the last couple of years. Typically it's shifting [6:31] to existing um boundaries between zone districts and [6:35] not creating something left isolated. With this request there is an isolated [6:41] parcel that's left uh light industrial south of the subject parcel asking to be [6:45] rezoned FAR 3. Um this parcel would create um [6:49] conforming FAR 3 parcels with its lot size requirements. [6:54] Um also what has changed since well so with the planning commission planning [6:58] commission did evaluate all of this. They took all this into consideration [7:02] and they also considered that it seems that light industrial land is not [7:07] seemingly under high demand in Cook County. Um this land has been on the [7:11] market for a while and it's more attractive for residential development [7:15] it seems. And so whether that's a short-term [7:18] change or reflective of more long-term changes in the county um I'm mostly [7:23] going into this just to kind of explain that um when we have these rezones of [7:27] larger areas cuz let's bear in mind that the Hedstrom preliminary plat and final [7:32] plat that was just adopted was also an area that was light industrial that was [7:34] zoned to FAR 3. And so um we are seeing these changes over time of this light [7:39] industrial zoning getting shifted into the FAR 3. [7:43] I'm not saying that's neither a good or a bad thing. It's just that when we do [7:47] approach an update to our land use guide plan or a county comprehensive plan, [7:51] these are items that would be especially helpful for us to have informed from [7:54] community input if this is the vision and direction that our community needs. [7:58] We don't want to undermine our land uses and the available land for light [8:02] industrial activities if we're shifting that all to residential area because [8:06] then we'll see more requests for industrial activities in residential [8:09] areas if that's not left. So, that's my platform on just re-zones 101. Uh some [8:15] of that is identified in the staff narrative for the planning commission. [8:19] So, at the August 11th public hearing, the planning commission did consider all [8:23] of this. They did feel that still the demand for residential development is [8:26] strong enough and that this seemed suitable for residential development and [8:30] they did unanimously recommend approval of this re-zone. [8:34] Um and also they they mostly wanted to [8:37] identify that um you know, it just seems like there are [8:40] shifts over time. So, again, an update to our land use guide plan would be a [8:43] very helpful component to inform these types of decisions. [8:46] There has been one shift since we submitted this county board item report. [8:50] The property immediately south of the one identified as being left as an [8:53] island, they did submit a re-zone application uh from the light industrial [8:58] to FAR 3 over the last week. Um it has not been, you know, we haven't [9:03] had time as staff to review the application for completeness, hasn't [9:06] gone through a public hearing, but I just wanted to inform you that um that [9:09] is one minor change. Um maybe major depending on how you view it. Um I still [9:14] view it as it's still an application, people can still withdraw applications. [9:18] It's still not the same thing as an application being under review and [9:21] approved at the same meeting. So, staff's preference just from a a [9:24] procedure perspective is that both of these applications would have been [9:28] reviewed simultaneously and then it could have kept this conversation much [9:31] more linear for all of us. But um again, re-zones don't have conditions. It's [9:35] just a a approval or a denial. Um so this is recommended for approval without [9:41] conditions. And I'm happy to answer any other [9:44] questions that you may have. >> Okay. [9:46] Questions? I'll go with Mr. Gamble. >> Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. [9:50] So thank you, Neva, for the detailed um foundation for these recommendations. My [9:57] question would simply be that uh when we are looking at these, and I assume it's [10:01] so, but I think for the public it'd be good to know that um [10:05] we look at in the context of the whole. So you alluded it to an extent relative [10:11] to the light industrial and residential that we want to find a balance so we [10:17] have opportunity, but in in the context my question is specific to we see this [10:23] as we're evaluating it in the context of the whole. So we don't all of a sudden [10:28] realize when we look individually that oh my goodness, we've left ourselves [10:33] short on this end. >> Mhm. [10:35] I agree. >> Yeah. Thank you. [10:38] » [clears throat] >> Commissioner Mills. [10:40] » I I was going to ask about the southern property, so I'm really happy to hear [10:44] that there's an application in and um I really appreciate the the larger map [10:49] to to give the perspective of just what's going on in the whole area and [10:53] the the whole industrial campus or complex. So [10:57] uh otherwise I'd make a motion to approve the the rezone from light [11:00] industrial to FAR FAR 3 um for parcel ID 53-234-4425. [11:08] » Support. >> Okay. [11:10] I have a motion and a second. All in favor? [11:13] » Aye. >> Aye. [11:14] » Opposed? Any sign? Motion passed unanimously for you. Thank you. [11:18] » Thank you. [11:21] » Moving on to item number five, human resources. We have a couple of updates [11:26] with this. [11:39] » Good morning. I found my keys. [11:41] » Nice. >> [laughter] [11:43] » I needed help getting in the building this morning. [11:46] I was like, "Where are they?" [11:49] » [sighs] >> All right. [11:53] Okay. So, the first item I have to present today is a job description [11:57] update and more uh in regards to one specific item on the job description for [12:02] our emergency management director. Um so, in the [12:06] for all of our job descriptions and the heading, we've got the box that says [12:11] like what the title, who they report to, so which department they're they're fall [12:15] they fall in, the grade, the date it was last updated, board approved, and [12:20] there's also an FLSA status box. Um so, for the EMD position right now, it's [12:27] currently um a classified with a non-exempt FLSA status. That's the Fair [12:33] Labor Standards Act. And in reviewing the job description, which it's always a [12:38] good practice to review a job description when we have uh turnover in [12:42] that in that uh position, just to ensure like are there any updates that need to [12:47] be made to the essential functions of the position, has anything shifted or [12:51] modified. Including FLSA status is always something um that should be [12:56] reviewed and reaffirmed um or modified as needed. And so, in reviewing the EMD [13:02] position given that the current incumbent will be retiring here [13:07] beginning of next week, um it it came to our attention that the FLSA status um [13:14] could be updated and changed from a non-exempt to an exempt status. So, that [13:18] is the only change that I am proposing um and uh bringing for approval today. [13:26] Oh, and I should say this would become effective after the current incumbent is [13:31] um is retired, so it would be effective September 2nd, so the day after [13:37] when that position is vacant. >> Okay. All right. Questions or comments? [13:48] Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make [13:50] a motion to approve the FLSA status for the emergency management director from [13:55] non-exempt to exempt effective September 2nd. [14:00] » Support. >> We have a motion and a second. All in [14:03] favor? >> Aye. [14:05] » Aye. >> Opposed? Same sign. Motion passed [14:07] unanimously. >> Thank you. [14:10] All right. The second item I have is uh bringing forth a contract with David [14:16] Drown Associates, which we often refer to them as DDA. So, this is for the [14:21] ongoing work that I continue to do with collaboration with DDA and the [14:26] consultant that's specifically working with us and our county. Um so, this [14:32] would be a continuation of the contract we had for [14:36] um 2023, 2024, 2025. So, this would continue the 3-year ongoing maintenance [14:42] of our job description reviews um along with a continued market [14:47] analysis on a yearly basis. It would be for in uh the same amount that has been [14:54] charged for the last 3 years in the amount of $10,550 [14:59] per year. Um that has been and continues to be in the HR budget as well. [15:10] » Questions or comments? >> [clears throat] [15:11] » Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to [15:14] thank you for number one um taking this approach. I have seen over my tenure as [15:20] a commissioner such a huge improvement in the uh regularity with which we're [15:27] reviewing our job descriptions, and just appreciate the fact that we're much more [15:32] competitive. And I think it's great that it is just [15:36] built into our budget, and the fact that it the price did not go up. [15:40] That was really nice. I think that's the first thing I can think of in a long [15:44] time that hasn't gone up in price. So with that, I'd make a motion [15:49] » [clears throat] >> to approve of the 3-year contract with [15:52] DDA in the amount of $10,550 for ongoing maintenance of job [15:57] descriptions. >> Uh support. [16:01] » Any further questions or comments? Commissioner Gamble. [16:04] » Thank you, Madam Chair. >> [clears throat] [16:07] » Well, this is a a subject that, you know, I've I've addressed before. I do I [16:12] do have a a handout. Commissioner Sullivan said as [16:15] opposed to getting into a lengthy presentation, it'd be good to have [16:20] handout to support what I'm saying. So, I will hand this out. [16:27] There's two pages there, and it's >> Thank you. [16:30] » Yeah. So, um [16:35] » [clears throat] >> I would respectfully say that while I [16:37] support ongoing maintenance of job description on behalf of Cook County [16:41] employees, I do not support the basis on which wages were established given the [16:45] county selected for comparison, as it creates an extreme fiscal mismatch, [16:50] ignores local economic realities, labor markets, and the ability to pay. If we [16:55] elect to spend more in one area, we have to cut spending somewhere else. We [16:59] cannot fund it all. That is our reality as a small county with a very limited [17:05] tax base. We talked about this in the last COW [17:08] meeting, and I had addressed some of the the issues of why I have concerns in the [17:15] comparable county selection in the documents that I handed [17:19] out. It says when conducting a compensation study for Minnesota County, [17:23] the most important criteria to consider are geographical proximity and labor [17:28] market competition, followed closely by population size and tax capacity budget [17:34] size. So, as outlined here in this handout, [17:38] the criteria for comparable county selection [17:41] geographic proximity, labor market competition, population and scale, tax [17:46] capacity and financial resources, full-time equivalent staffing, uh [17:51] housing and rental costs, economic structure, household income and [17:55] spending, and total compensation. Those are our categories that look at and [18:00] there's a narrative that accompanies each of those headings. In the interest [18:04] of time, the next page here are the uh [18:08] criteria typically used to determine comparable counties. [18:12] That's population, per capita personal income, taxable tax capacity, net tax [18:18] levy per capita, total current expenditures and property tax revenues. [18:23] Under those categories in the comparable counties that were selected uh to [18:28] establish our wage base, the top seven counties in the selection [18:33] we used were the most populous counties. Um and that's Hennepin number one, [18:39] Ramsey two, Dakota three, Anoka four, Washington five, St. Louis six, and Olm- [18:46] Olmsted. So, we we we being where we are [18:51] as far as population, that comparable counties was the top most populous [18:56] counties. Two was per capita personal income. Six [19:02] of the seven top counties ranked highest per capita personal income were used for [19:06] comparison in the county's compensation study. That would be Hennepin, Carver, [19:11] Washington, Traverse, Scott, and Dakota. Number three, taxable tax capacity. Six [19:17] of the highest tier, that's the highest tax base and revenue generating and [19:21] generating counties, were used for comparison in the county's compensation [19:26] study. Hennepin, Ramsey, Dakota, Anoka, Washington, and St. Louis. [19:31] Number four is net tax levy per capita. That's the total amount of property [19:37] taxes a local unit of government decides to raise divided by the total number of [19:42] people living in the community. Small rural or resort-heavy counties [19:47] with low permanent populations relative to their infrastructure costs, such as [19:52] Cook County and Lake County, often register high per capita levy [19:56] burdens. Cook County frequently ranks second highest in overall per capita [20:02] relative to tax burden due to high public infrastructure and service costs [20:07] distributed across a very small permanent population base. Number five [20:11] under criteria typically used is current expenditures. Seven of the eight [20:17] counties with the highest total current expect expenditures [20:21] were used for comparison in the county's compensation study. That being Hennepin [20:25] County, which ranks number one by a wide margin in the billions. Ramsey County, [20:31] Dakota, St. Louis, Anoka, Washington, and Olmsted. [20:34] And six is property tax revenues. [20:38] Hennepin County consistently collects the highest total property tax revenue [20:43] in the state due to its large population and immense commercial residential [20:48] taxable market value. Rural, less populated counties collect [20:53] the lowest overall property tax revenues, often totaling a fraction of [20:58] major metro counterparts. So, when I when I look at these [21:02] realities and and I've done that for a number of years having been part of [21:08] the comp study that we conducted in my in my first term [21:14] and in many discussions I I still struggle with this and I [21:23] as I think you're aware I believe in evidence-based [21:27] decision-making data that supports that decision. So this isn't [21:33] something that's driven by an emotion or a personal agenda. It is something that [21:38] I feel is my responsibility and stewardship to the people that put me in [21:43] this position to be a good steward of limited dollars. [21:48] So the proposal that is before us that has been motioned and seconded [21:54] um I support it on the basis of a [21:57] commitment to our employees and I said that in the [22:00] committee of the whole meeting as well. If this is something that we value that [22:05] we want to set this to attract quality people, maintain quality people, [22:09] whatever. Um [22:11] then um [22:13] I I will support it because we chose it based upon priority what our values [22:18] would be. And and I've encouraged that we would [22:22] take a look at everything that we are have chose to be responsible for in [22:27] governance and then based upon our limited funds prioritize those things [22:33] and if we make this our top priority then we have done that through a [22:37] disciplined process and then we have to decide what we're going to cut. Hennepin [22:44] County number one population, number one budget, number one in in tax revenue, [22:49] number one across the board this year is having a very difficult time and they [22:56] are having to cut staff and [clears throat] [22:59] a lot of other things that are and yet they've got the most money. So, [23:04] it's up to this board to make a decision on where we're going to spend the [23:08] limited resources we have because we can't fund it all. [23:12] So, my support in this motion before us is [23:18] the commitment to staff with the understanding that we will do the due [23:21] diligence necessary to balance the limited resources we have that we can [23:27] expend. So, thank you for listening. [23:32] » [clears throat] >> We have a motion and a second before us. [23:35] Is there any further discussion or comments? [23:39] » [clears throat] >> I'll call for a vote. All in favor? [23:42] Aye. Opposed? Same sign. Motion passed [23:45] unanimously. Thank you very much. [23:51] » [clears throat] [23:54] » Moving on to item number six, um Firewise with the auditor Brady. [24:00] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh the Firewise Committee [24:05] is planning brush pick-up events this fall for property owners who've done [24:09] clearing but need help disposing of the brush. [24:13] Uh estimated cost of these events is [24:16] 28,000. We don't have any current grants [24:20] uh available for funding these costs. Uh our limit our Secure Rural School [24:27] funds are also limited. Uh we're projecting out to use what we have now, [24:32] it'll take us into the next uh funding of Secure Rural Schools. So, I'm looking [24:37] at uh our tax forfeit funds. We had [24:41] previously authorized these funds to go towards the [24:46] Firewise coordinator when we were waiting on the Secure Rural Schools. [24:50] » [clears throat] >> And I'm asking to make those available [24:53] again for the brush pick-up costs. Uh what we have left is uh just a little [24:58] over 25,000 now because we've been using it for firewise and it was planned to [25:04] use it for pictometry, so we spent about 40,000 on pictometry since uh we last [25:11] used it for secure rural schools. So, anyway, this would uh likely deplete [25:15] that fund and we'd come back for other use if we needed it. [25:20] And our coordinator, Steve, is also looking at um every source [25:26] um of funding uh first of all, the DACA, called the [25:31] DACA funds. But, we'll look at any of these costs that might fit that we we [25:36] might get replenished on. But, in the meantime, I'd like to have this [25:40] available for the brush pick up now and then we'll apply for any refund where [25:46] avail- that's available later. >> Especially this year with the fire [25:51] situation. >> Yeah. [25:53] » Needing to clean up their brush and so forth, but they probably will take [25:56] everything that you have right now. Commissioner Sullivan. [25:59] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just related to the wildfire risk, we [26:04] have property owners in District 4 who have already piled up [26:08] the brush and are waiting for this. So, this is work that our citizens have [26:12] already completed and it's really a practical way to uh reduce fuel on the [26:18] landscape. >> Commissioner Gamble. [26:22] » Yes, thank you. Yeah, I think um historically and you can get the way [26:26] back and find out that a lot of the fires, forest fires that we've seen that [26:30] have devastated communities within our state have been because of brush that is [26:36] there to fuel fires when they stop during start during the lightning [26:40] strikes or whatever. So, I would make a motion to use up to 28,000 um tax [26:46] forfeit funds for brush pick up in the fall of 2026. [26:51] » Support. >> Have a motion in the second. Any further [26:54] questions or comments? All in favor? [26:58] Aye. Opposed, same sign. Motion passed [27:01] unanimously. Okay. [27:05] » So, next item is the [clears throat] airport contract for the taxiway [27:09] construction project. Previously, we approved grants for the engineering and [27:15] we've done that work and this is for the construction. We approved the the bids. [27:20] So, this is the contract with KGM Contractors for the Hangar Road taxiway [27:26] reconstruction at the Cook County Grand Marais Airport. [27:30] And the county attorney has looked at the contract and and made some There've [27:37] been some requested changes made to the contract and the additions that you see [27:42] in the attachment. Originally, you would have seen just the [27:46] two-page contract and the insurance and the uh payment bonds [27:52] and bid bonds. And now we're including all of the FAA [27:57] uh specs, etc. that outline a lot of the requirements that you don't see, but are [28:04] just referenced. And some of them are now made explicitly [28:09] through the county attorney's actions. And Jean, you might want to say more [28:13] about that. >> All right. [28:15] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, the contract came to us in short form. I [28:19] know that's the contract that the county is used to seeing. [28:23] R S & H was pretty clear that they work with that contract on a number of other [28:26] counties. However, on a call yesterday, Brandon [28:29] Jensen was particularly helpful in making sure that we had the attachments. [28:34] The airport improvement project grant-funded [28:40] projects require certain language in there. So, all of the specs and things [28:46] like that don't necessarily need to be included, but the fastest way we could [28:50] get this attached was to include everything and then those um [28:55] compliant conditions are included in that packet. So, that's the reason for I [29:01] don't like to make things 300 pages [laughter] [29:03] when they can be two pages, but we want to protect the grant and we want to make [29:07] sure that we're in compliance and the letter of the law says that those that [29:12] language and those terms are in the procurement documents and they're in the [29:16] contract. So, that's why I made that request and Brandon Johnson was [29:20] particularly helpful in getting that quickly. [29:23] » And given the way that um state and federal are dealing with [29:29] contracts these days, they're getting much more uh [29:33] let's say detailed in in following we're noticing that especially in the state [29:40] contracts. So, it makes it makes a lot of sense to [29:44] make it very explicit in our response. [29:49] » Commissioner Mills? >> I was going to say [29:51] with some [clears throat] of our past experiences I I'd say bravo on this. [29:55] Thank you very much for the the diligence. [clears throat] [29:57] » Thanks. Commissioner Gannon? [30:00] » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, I think um [30:03] anytime you have an agreement, contract, whatever that being explicit and [30:08] inclusive is hugely important. And getting clarity and understanding and at [30:13] the point that documents are drafted, that is the point to make sure that you [30:16] are protecting your best interests. And I appreciate your reference to the [30:22] letter of the law which sometimes we we just are grow numb to it, but it but it [30:27] is what protects us and I I appreciate so much your efforts in this area and uh [30:33] your department and your thoroughness. Thank you. [30:36] » Thank you, Commissioner. >> [clears throat] [30:38] » One other point I make, we don't have the grant yet. Uh we've made the [30:43] application. This is not unusual. They always put us in this position. I [30:48] shouldn't say always, but often. We have to approve the contract and [30:52] start even though they have to get um get the work started even though we [30:59] haven't got final approval, but um it's it's all but assured. So, it's it's work [31:05] they want done also, so. >> Commissioner Gallivan. [31:09] » Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh given our previous experience with [31:14] the airport and the discussions we had with multiple regulatory agencies on the [31:18] expansion of our runway, the the [31:22] this is uh a lived experience that informs what we do at this point to make [31:26] sure well, let's get it right and be thorough on it. So, we have we [31:30] understand it because nobody likes to diffuse their efforts and energies and [31:33] resources because of misunderstanding, so this is great. [31:40] » Commissioner Sullivan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make [31:42] a motion to approve the $1,443,788 [31:48] contract with KGM for Hangar Road Taxi Lane reconstruction at the Cook County [31:53] Grand Marais Airport. >> Support. [31:57] » [clears throat] >> Have a motion and a second. Any further [31:59] questions or comments? All in favor? [32:03] » Aye. >> Opposed, same sign. Motion passed [32:05] unanimously. Thank you to Attorney Peterson, to [32:08] Brady, to Anne who's on committee there that this is [32:13] um a good move forward. Let's just put it that way. [32:16] » It's a a very important move forward. Um we, if you recall, had a prop strike [32:22] » Yeah. >> in the past and we want this repaired [32:25] and brought forward in good condition and construction should start the week [32:30] of September 14th. So, thank you. >> Okay. [32:34] All right. So, we'll move on to item seven, uh administrator. [32:38] » Thank you, Madam Chair. So, the first item that I have is the courthouse [32:42] security memorandum of understanding and non-disclosure agreement. And to give [32:47] you some information on the the background of this, the sixth judicial [32:51] district contacted me, um Mark Coin and Sarah Taylor, the district [32:55] administrator, um to let us know that the court had [33:00] secured funding to provide a security assessment for every county within the [33:05] sixth judicial district. So, they are paying for that and um engaging in the [33:12] uh contract with the consultants and are asking for our support in moving [33:16] forward. And so, with that, we will receive information that is then [33:21] confidential. And so, want to make sure that that information remains [33:25] confidential um between the court and the county. And [33:29] so, they have asked us to support this memorandum of understanding and [33:33] non-disclosure agreement. Um that work should begin the end of September, and [33:38] we should have more information within a few months. [33:41] So, at this time, I'm just asking all of you to support moving forward with the [33:45] MOU and the NDA. >> Okay. [33:48] Commissioner Mills? >> Very very supportive. Just curious, when [33:51] was the last time this was done? >> 2012. [33:54] » Okay. And um [33:57] certainly [clears throat] this will factor into our [33:59] future capital. >> Absolutely. This So, to add more to [34:03] that, thank you for that question. So, um I did have our architect on the call [34:08] with the six sixth judicial district so that we could talk about how the two [34:13] would connect. And we may be moving back when we bring the recommendations from [34:18] the building study to the board to make sure that we have the time and ability [34:22] to incorporate the recommendations from the security assessment, as well. [34:26] » Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. [34:28] » Yeah. >> Commissioner Gambles? [34:30] » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. So, um given [34:33] the nature of this assessment, it's it's not information that is fully disclosed [34:39] because that's the nature of security. And so, as we do look at this and with [34:45] our remodel and all of these kinds of things, there'll be elements that will [34:50] be discussed that'll be more confidential in nature. And then those [34:54] elements that we can disclose will will discuss. [34:58] » Correct. Because I was going to ask the question what all will it encompass, but [35:01] in doing that then it would compromise the security [laughter] nature. [35:04] » Correct. >> Yeah, so this is [35:07] this is where you have to trust the process in this one. [35:11] » [laughter] >> Commissioner Sullivan. [35:13] » Thank you Madam Chair. And just for the public, I know when we hear the [35:18] letters NDA or non-disclosure agreement, everybody goes crazy. So, for the [35:22] public, just know that approving it for closed security briefings and [35:28] purposes, this is legally permissible. We're not doing anything awkward or [35:34] unfair or illegal. We are being transparent as much as we [35:39] can. >> Thank you, Commissioner Sullivan. So, [35:40] it's basically the the court um providing security to us as the county [35:47] that they will not be sharing the security information out with anyone [35:51] outside of us. So, it's their data, it's their information, but they're providing [35:55] it to us, like you said, likely in a closed session for information to the [36:00] board and to help guide our building remodel discussions, but that's all it [36:05] is. >> Good timing. [36:06] » Yeah. >> Yes, Commissioner Campbell. [36:09] » Yeah, thank you Madam Chair. So, I'd make a motion to approve the courthouse [36:13] security memorandum of understanding and non-disclosure agreement between the 6th [36:17] Judicial District and Cook County. >> Support. [36:22] » Any further questions or comments? All in favor? [36:26] Aye. Opposed? Same sign. Motion passed [36:29] unanimously. Thank you on that. [36:33] » Next item. >> All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. So, [36:35] my next item, as everyone knows, um Mike Keyport, our emergency manager [36:41] and management director, is retiring um on September 1st, and we have selected a [36:48] finalist and offered a position uh to Ruth Fogel as our next emergency [36:53] management director. She has accepted, and she will be starting on September [36:57] 24th. We're very excited about having her coming on board, um but that [37:02] provides a little bit of a gap where we don't have a director in that role. And [37:06] so, my request is to appoint Steve Van Ketrix um to the position as an interim [37:12] director of emergency management from the time period of September 1st until [37:17] Ruth is on board on September 24th. [37:24] » Commissioner Gamble. >> I'll make a motion to um appoint Steve [37:28] Van Ketrix to the position of interim county emergency management director [37:32] effective September 1st. >> Support. [37:35] » Any questions or comments? Commissioner Gamble. [37:38] » Thank you, Madam Chair. So, just a a question, we did have correspondence [37:42] from um our fire chiefs asking if they could be involved at all. And so, my [37:47] question is just what was any involvement at all on the part of fire [37:52] chiefs >> Um [37:53] » in the hiring of Ruth? >> Yes, thank you for that question. So, we [37:55] had one of the fire chiefs from Luton Fire, um Steve, and I'm I'm Duclos. [38:00] Duclos. Thank you. Steve Duclos um assist us in that [38:04] process, and during that process, he was consulting with the fire chiefs from all [38:09] of the different uh fire departments in the county, and um highly supported and [38:15] uh the recommendation to hire Ruth and was part of that determination. [38:19] » Yeah. That's that's great. Yeah. [38:22] I think uh you know, the evidence of being [38:25] responsive to that is is hugely important, not just for the hiring, but [38:29] for what it says in our working with you know, community and people have [38:33] vested interest in us. That's great. Thank you. [38:36] » You're welcome. And any further updates? [38:40] » I do. Thank you, Madam Chair. I've got two updates. The first one is that I [38:43] joined uh attended the county tribal meeting yesterday. It was in Duluth. [38:49] And um it was a great meeting. There were um [38:53] I I think probably 20 some people that attended, so it was great great [38:59] attendance. Um the items that we talked about was the State Community Health [39:03] Services Advisory Council. Uh they are looking for representatives from the [39:07] tribes to join that committee. Um we talked about the OMB rule changes on [39:13] federal grants and how that is impacting tribes as well as the county. And then [39:17] state legislative priorities. So, we anticipate having our next meeting right [39:21] before the AMC um conference in December. I think it's [39:26] December 6th or 7th, if I'm not mistaken. [39:29] Uh so, that will be our next meeting. But um was happy that I was able to join [39:33] that. The only other update I have is the fact that we have our all-staff [39:38] potluck tomorrow from noon to 1:00. So, if any of you can join that, should be [39:43] fun. Uh we're hopefully doing it outside if the weather permits. I know. [39:48] » [laughter] >> And Brooke has graciously offered to [39:51] bring a grill and uh grill brats. Yep. Yep. So, it should be fun. [39:58] » Okay, thank you. So, I need to back up here because we need a motion. [40:01] » Yeah. >> To approve, of course, Steve to be the [40:05] interim. >> Oh, yeah. Madam Chair, I I [40:07] uh I made a motion and then we had support. Okay. [40:10] » We just need a vote. >> Okay. Thank you. [40:13] » All in favor. >> I. [40:14] » I. >> Opposed, same sign. Motion passed [40:18] » Represent that in the notes that it happened sequentially. [40:22] » [laughter] [40:24] » Right. Okay, so um we'll move on then to [40:29] employees concerns or missioner commissioner concerns or meeting update [40:34] reports. Anyone has anything to report? [40:40] Meetings? We had a busy August, I know. [40:45] » It was very busy. Thank you, ma'am. >> Oh, Commissioner Sullivan. [40:48] » I'll go >> Go I have to go right ahead. [40:50] » Okay. >> So we started out with our local [40:52] emergency preparedness meeting on August 11th and [40:58] talked a little bit about the wildfire smoke, the wildfires themselves and kind [41:03] of talked about given that what we would [41:06] like to do in terms of activities both, you know, particularly tabletop within [41:10] the next year. Um and that was the first meeting that [41:13] Avi ran for us through PHHS, so that was really great. [41:19] And then we were involved obviously in the [41:22] emergency management director interviews. [41:26] And then um Sag Seagull Area Property Owners [41:31] Association met and I attended that and two big issues. One was about their [41:37] garbage area. They pick up off of a road off the Gunflint Trail, which unless you [41:44] have a truck is impassable. And so a second canister has been added by [41:49] Northshore Waste up by the Loon Lake um canisters and that will be for people [41:54] who have a Toyota Prius like me or some low-to-the-ground car, but there is an [41:59] option for everybody then that's there. And so we really appreciate Northshore [42:03] Waste you know, free of charge putting that [42:06] extra canister um at Loon Lake. And then Commissioner [42:11] Gamblin I attended the HRA meeting and um [42:16] that was very, very productive um and we talked a little bit more about [42:21] our housing trust fund and are in the process of getting that rolling. [42:26] And airport advisory um obviously the taxi lane reconstruction, which we just [42:32] approved and discussed our new commissioner members. [42:35] And then uh last Friday was a Gunflint uh gratitude gathering, which was an [42:40] opportunity to thank all of our firefighters, EMS, EMTs, all the first [42:45] responders that assisted during um the wildfires back in July and ongoing. [42:52] Uh yesterday we had a safety committee meeting and talked a little bit about um [42:57] with our new emergency management director having her look at our training [43:01] schedule and do some of the planning for upcoming events for our employees. And [43:06] then lastly uh yesterday um the subordinate governmental service [43:11] district committee met and both Commissioner White and I attended that [43:15] and we talked about just county responsibility and jurisdiction issues. [43:21] Um as we know, some of those SGSDs are [43:25] pri- on private property or private road, DNR and US Forest Service. And so, [43:32] talking about are there agreements, joint powers agreements that we need to [43:36] put together, but what do we do to ensure that all these unique little [43:40] places might have an opportunity to continue. So, that was one of our uh [43:44] discussions, but very, very busy month and um [43:49] still the wildfire up on the Little Knife is continuing. It's 90% contained, [43:55] but it's not over till it's over. Just reminding everyone. [44:02] » [clears throat] >> Commissioner Mills. [44:03] » Thank you. Uh yeah, I was up uh up the trail [44:08] yesterday and smelled smoke and all the weekend smelled smoke and so [44:12] there's still there's still smoke there's still fire. [44:15] Um but I guess it's over over the border largely is what I understood but [44:20] » [clears throat] >> what I wanted to share is that um on [44:22] Friday Peter Mark and Siri the commissioners [44:26] from the EDA um successfully got the EDA through the [44:30] closing process on the sale of Spear National. So that's big news and it's [44:35] not done done done done because we still have to you know meet the obligations of [44:40] of the sale contract as far as the irrigation and the septic are concerned [44:44] so still going through that and that's [44:47] still on our plate but just a huge step um I feel like for for that organization [44:53] and for our community um you know it's it's been on the EDA's [44:58] plate since the formation of the EDA and yeah it's a it's a significant [45:03] change and transition across the board so [45:06] just want to thank those guys for the work that they've put into this which [45:10] has been a lot and a lot and a lot and um [45:13] » [clears throat] >> really excited for for what's [45:16] » And I'll just add we we've received the funds. [45:19] » Then we got them. Yeah. >> The no that's coming but this is this is [45:24] the funds from the sale. >> Okay. [45:26] » So we received a wire now which we had to have in order to plan the closing of [45:31] the bonds >> Okay. [45:32] » on October 1st so the funds are in our accounts. [45:36] » You scared me for a second as far as [45:40] accept or or is that >> [laughter] [45:44] » Thank you. Uh and I think that's all I I have to [45:46] share today. >> Okay. [45:50] Commissioner Gallon [clears throat] >> Yeah. [45:52] My reports I'll give it public health human services it's on the list there [45:56] for Um but the question I would have if the [45:59] board would agreed on this at some point maybe at a cow meeting or whatever, but [46:04] uh to understand actually how those dollars translate relative to our bond [46:08] obligation, the money's received, the money in escrow for completing the [46:13] things that are compliant with the contract. It'd be good for us I think to [46:17] to see that just >> package [46:19] » Yeah, yeah. To see that, understand that and how what has been paying down those [46:25] that debt, how that translates into that 160,000. So, just seeing that picture [46:30] would be beneficial big time. >> Oh, yeah. On that note too, thank you [46:36] Commissioner Gamble. Um [46:39] kind of following up with the conversation about [46:42] uh I I think you were alluding to it or maybe said specifically just that where [46:46] the tax dollars, which tax dollars and just our overall costs historically, I [46:52] think just for the total package would be really helpful to to [46:55] better understand it cuz I still get questions about that too. Um [46:59] how much did we pay versus how much have have visitors paid and we can't know [47:03] exactly, but you know, we can get a better idea just overall so everyone [47:08] everyone knows where we sit and yeah. >> I've done that summary [clears throat] [47:12] before, so I think I can just pull it up. We're good. Yeah. [47:19] » Yeah, thank you Madam Chair. So, yeah, I think it it's it's important for us to [47:23] to understand and put it in a context because you learn from those experiences [47:27] and so that's that would be good. Thank you. [47:33] » Yes. >> Thank you Madam Chair. I forgot one [47:35] thing. There's a piece of paper every commissioner got [47:39] on a draft proposal for AMC for the presentation that Jeff Brand and I would [47:44] like to make it AMC in December. It's called from housing crisis to housing [47:48] ecosystem and so we are working on a proposal and we'll submit that and have [47:54] put together kind of a draft power point, but I'll keep you informed about [47:58] that as that presentation hopefully is accepted as a more than a just a [48:03] proposal, and then we'll go from there. >> Great. Good mission. [48:06] » You probably don't need ideas, >> [clears throat] [48:09] » but I wonder if um either one of the Hamilton sisters in the game. [48:12] » Oh, they are um on page seven. [48:16] » And Red Arrow and >> [laughter] [48:18] » Awesome. >> Bravo. [48:19] » Do you want to say excuse me? You want to say anything about the Mayhew? [48:24] The Mayhew project given That was at the EDA or was it not? [48:28] » Um just uh it was just an amendment for the [48:31] timeline. >> Okay. [48:32] » So, yeah. I think that's the only update I'd have for you. [48:35] » [cough] >> Still [48:38] still waiting to break ground or any further progress there. [48:44] » She attended the ARDC meeting last week and we're [48:48] um in a position where we can help people in terms of the fire that [48:53] affected businesses, so try to get the word out on that, too. [48:58] » [clears throat] >> They're gearing up for um [49:00] October insurance decisions. The staff that they have there for that. We're [49:06] readjusting our meetings in September because it's just [49:10] everything is happening, it seems like, in September because we're going to [49:13] Bemidji for AMC, so we have our next meeting in 2 weeks. So, it's just a [49:19] matter of, you know, making sure we can adjust. Um and also [clears throat] we [49:24] um we formed a committee for our bylaws, [49:27] which haven't been reviewed for I'll just say several years, and so um I'll [49:32] be a part of that, too. Coming up in um October. [49:36] We've discussed um we've always met at the Hermantown facility. However, it's [49:42] um considerable big and um echoey and [49:46] always cold. So, you would wear three layers if you wanted. [49:50] » [laughter] >> Sounds so nice. [49:52] » Right to it. The always cold. [49:56] » And expensive. >> [laughter] [49:58] » So, we're looking into going to Lake Superior College. [50:02] And they have a meeting room there. You drive in, it's the right building on the [50:05] right side, and there's plenty of parking, and so I think we'll give that [50:08] a chance. But, you know, this is how we work as a group, isn't [50:11] it? We evaluate, we reassess, we say, "Okay, can we do different, or can we do [50:16] better, or can we um try it out and see what happens?" So, [50:21] that's uh that's where we are with that. Any further thoughts about meetings? [50:26] » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. The um [50:29] ARC, the corrections, is uh something that I report on public health and human [50:33] service, but something we don't normally talk about, but we did address because [50:37] we're in budget cycle, is that uh St. Louis County administrator Kevin Gray [50:43] was there, and he said that their insurance, they self-insure as a county, [50:48] their health insurance is going up 39%. >> Oh. [50:52] » And uh they're trying to absorb some of that cost as it relates to [50:58] the corrections. And uh so, it'll be 15% that is passed [51:03] on through that that gets passed on in our supportive charge. But, um as I [51:09] mentioned before, because of some uh changes in personnel and some other [51:14] issues in accounting that transferred dollars to where they belong, uh that I [51:19] » think you referenced about 32,000, which was correct, and I [51:24] So, I it's 32 to 34,000 reduced amount that would be Cook County's share this [51:29] this year for 2027. [51:34] » [clears throat] >> And I did have an insurance company [51:37] because I told Kevin, I said, "Well, I had an insurance company to me when we [51:41] were looking at our insurance, and they're saying just that your your [51:45] claims are driving your your rate up and when you're self-insured, that's going [51:49] to be the case. And so they said you just need to hire [51:52] healthy people, get rid of the real and hire healthy people. I said, "Well, [51:55] that's not how it works though." >> That's not how it works, you know. [51:58] [laughter] >> That is I mean that's [52:01] funny and also though true and that is something that the benefits [52:05] and wellness committee is, you know, aware of and really trying to get ahead [52:10] of. How can you help employees be healthier and thereby reduce your claims [52:15] and thereby reduce your costs and it's it's a a challenge but I think with, you [52:20] know, >> awareness [52:22] » awareness, feedback, participation, it it can happen. [52:28] The challenging part also is really our rates come from our pool. [52:34] Um, and so you have to somehow have the whole pool kind of get on that bar but [52:39] every bit helps. So we'll do our part and [52:43] try to help do [52:46] more education for the broader pool or I don't know but step by step. [52:51] » I I would say that relative to pool to having a pool [52:56] is that when we are evaluating our health insurance both in the benefit [53:00] that we receive and the cost to the county that the pool is significantly [53:06] better than like if we were in a position of St. Louis County where we [53:09] self-insured. So distributing it out over, you know, but you're you're right [53:15] that it's we can't control everything. >> Yeah and and uh [53:20] I have been interested and still am and attempted by the self-insurance because [53:25] we have had presentations at AMC about [clears throat] [53:28] I think it was Swift County. They just [53:33] uh 1% increase, you know, 0% increase and [53:37] just like for 10 years having that kind of, you know, excellent rates and with [53:43] being self-insured, but then they'll have a neighboring county who had [53:46] experienced the same thing and they'll have [53:49] one bout of cancer amongst their employees or their employee families and [53:54] it's all out of the water there, so. >> That's the situation with St. Louis [53:58] County. If you have several million dollar claims, you're going to see your [54:01] rate >> Yeah, yeah. So, it's it's it's risky and [54:05] that tempered by >> And you'd have to understand Swift's [54:08] experience relative to claims >> Yes, exactly. [54:12] And the age and all the demographic, yeah, it's really [54:15] » they must have claims managers that they hire. [54:19] » Yes, yeah. >> Even St. Louis County. [54:21] » Oh, I don't know about that. >> I assume. [54:24] » Yeah, I I maybe we didn't discuss that, but I would assume, too. [54:29] When you got that much money involved. [54:33] » So, Allison will probably start doing that soon, huh? Just kidding. Just [54:36] kidding. [laughter] [54:39] » Um, but on a side note, um, I did hear back from Northeast Service Cooperative [54:43] uh, late in the work day yesterday and I'm actually meeting with Lauren Sterk, [54:47] who is the rep that we work with for our health insurance there, on Thursday [54:51] morning to actually hear about our renewal. [54:53] » Okay. >> I was ready to write something, but no. [54:56] » Yeah. >> Stand down. [55:00] » [clears throat] >> Okay, anything else from anyone? [55:04] No? Okay. >> [clears throat] [55:08] » So, um, I'm going to move down to item number 10, correspondence memos. In our [55:14] packet, we have the sales tax comparison through June of 26 and the HR board [55:19] report on staffing changes. And um, [55:23] I'm then um, announcing that we're going into a closed session with the review [55:28] one-year review of County Administrator Administrator [clears throat] Trebel. [55:32] And so, um, we'll be uh, be making a motion to close and then we will go into [55:38] our closed session and we will not return as a board group. [55:42] So, I will >> [clears throat] [55:44] » have a motion to close the meeting pursuant to Minnesota Statute 13D [55:49] subdivision 3A to review the annual performance of [55:53] County Administrator Trubel Hersema. A summary of the review will be [55:57] presented at the September 8th County Board of Commissioners regular meeting. [56:03] » So moved. >> Support. [56:05] » All in favor? >> Aye. [56:07] » Aye. >> Opposed, same sign. [56:09] We are adjourned. >> Did everyone sign this? Mike's card? [56:16] » Only I don't think I did. >> Okay. [56:18] » Thank you. >> Yep.