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can we

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all rise for the pledge of allegiance please.

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I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the united states of america

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and to the republic for which it stands

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one nation under god indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all.

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>> roll call.

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commissioner smith. Commissioner

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mallozzi. Commissioner

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katzman ,

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mayor.

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let's go ahead and

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do the recognitions and proclamations

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if

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my fellow colleagues will join me

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on the floor.

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>> the man that I

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have here you will hear some interesting

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things about. I would like you

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to meet

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adam, a bright and talented

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student that just graduated cooper

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city elementary

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school. Adam is currently blazing

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trails by taking ninth grade math

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. Everybody applied because that is impressive.

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he has the first student to

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triumphantly finish six, seven, and

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eighth grade math while still

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in the fifth grade. Excitingly he

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will jump straight into

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ninth grade math next.

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his dedication and hard work have

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earned him a record of straight a's

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through his academic journey. He proudly

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served as student council president

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and at the

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graduation ceremony he actually pronounced

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my last

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name properly. That in and of itself

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you should get extra credit. He's

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a distinguished member

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of mensa

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. His love for animals is truly heartwarming.

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he dreams of creating his

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very own zoo aquarium

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combining the wonders of terrestrial

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and marine life.

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with his passion and determination

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there's no doubt that adam

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is destined

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for greatness. He's a phenomenal student.

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I don't normally

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just give certificates to everyone

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but I was

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so impressed . That and the fact

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that you pronounced my name right.

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this is for you

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adam balaban

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. We

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present this certificate for your

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outstanding achievements in math,

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reflect your intelligence and persistence.

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keep going.

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join

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us, please.

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>> tonight

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we will give

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a proclamation to the recreation department. [applause]

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my

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favorite department. Whereas

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parks and recreation programs are

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an integral part of the

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community throughout this country

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including cooper city.

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whereas the city of cooper city is

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home to 22

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parks, three sports complex and over

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100 acres

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inspiring residence with beauty

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and providing countless recreation

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opportunities. Whereas

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parts and recreation program

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provide vitally important to establishing

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and maintaining the quality

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of life in our community ensuring

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the health of

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all citizens, contributing to the

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economy as well

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as the

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environmental well-being of the community.

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whereas recreation participation continues

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family

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unity, strengthens volunteerism,

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creates community pride and vitality

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and promotes

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sensitivity and an understanding of

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the

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culture of diversity. Whereas the

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city of cooper city recognizes the vital

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contributions of employees

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and

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ensuring facilities are clean, safe,

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and accessible for all city residents

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to enjoy. James curran,

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mayor of cooper city do hereby complain

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-- proclaim

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july 2025 as

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parks and recreation month.

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do you want to come get your picture

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taken with

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us. No speech?

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no speech. Speech?

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I will say a few things.

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this crew is a reason why it is

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an integral part of the community.

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each and every one from running the

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great events

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to providing aftercare summer camps, playgrounds,

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ballfields,

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this is why.

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>> we will move on to

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public comment.

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excuse me. One second. Let's

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go ahead and do pet adoption.

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>> adorable little danny is one

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of many adorable kittens available

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for adoption

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humane society of broward county.

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just 15 weeks old, she's

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curious, playful and ready to be part

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a family. The shelter has more than

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80 felines waiting to be adopted

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so now would be a perfect time to adopt.

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all pets are spayed and neutered before

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going home and

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receive a microchip. The fee

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is $125 to stop by .

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griffin road is closed at the railroad tracks.

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be sure to follow the detour tight --

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signs to get to the shelter. Danny

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is waiting for

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you.

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>> thank you. Public comment.

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mrs. Schwartz.

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good evening. I have

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been a resident for 26 years.

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we've raised our three daughters and

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now enjoying grandchildren. I'm grateful

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to live directly across from cooper

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point park.

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these luxuries were taken away from us

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four months ago when a neighbor who

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did not live in

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our circle decided to abandon his truck

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and make the roadway his permanent

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space. This blocks the kids from

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riding their bicycles freely and obstructs

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their

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traffic view. Additionally sanitation

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trucks

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have to back out. We have asked

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the truck owner

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to simply move his truck back to his driveway

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which was met with a disgusting response.

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have also reached out

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to code enforcement. I'm asking for

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your help to resolve

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the situation

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for being a public nuisance. Is there

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anything we can do to prevent

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the abandoned vehicle in our roadway.

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given

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that this

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is walking distance to the highway

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and middle school can we

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at least put a sign there that says

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no parking during

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school hours to alleviate some of

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the burden we are facing as

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a result of neighbors and considerate

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of others.

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thank you for your time. We

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would appreciate your response and

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making cooper roadways

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safer for all of our neighbors.

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>> you will get your answer now.

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>> if you could just meet with the

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when you are done she will help you.

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thank you.

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>> I have a question. Does

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anyone object to adding 28

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to consent?

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think it needs to be discussed.

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>> motion to

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adopt the consent agenda.

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pull number 14.

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hold on.

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get two.

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>> no I don't

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. I also want to pull number 23

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also number 25.

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and that is it.

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>> now can

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I have a motion to approve?

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>> second.

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any questions?

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call about.

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>> commissioner smith.

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>> commissioner mallozzi. >>

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commissioner catherine. Commissioner

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shrouder. Mayor curran.

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authorizing an agreement between

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cooper city for school resource officer services

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authorizing and directing the appropriate

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city officials to

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effectuate the resolution. Providing

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for effective date.

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the

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adam is pulled back.

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>> two things.

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reference to

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we have a potential large increase

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with

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the sheriff

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. I saw that in the contract on

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206 of the contract. It specifically

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said if

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there was hold

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on. Overtime or replacement deputy

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that that is something that they

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could invoice, but if I have

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to pay x amount over

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and above what we are currently paying

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that is not something

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that was covered. I just want to

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make sure . When I spoke to

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jacob that he understood my concerns.

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I want to be sure that is covered

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because

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if we have to pay a crazy amount of

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money, I don't want

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to fall short of what we are charging them

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and I want to be able to recoup

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that. Part two is in the beginning

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it says that

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we do this

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because bso does not want to enter

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into anything with the charter school.

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that is great. In the same section

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it states that the

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sheriff shall invoice them. If the

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sheriff can invoice

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them for overtime, replacement deputies,

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et cetera,

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why can't they invoice them

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for the entire cost and why am I the middleman?

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I know

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this was asked and answered before

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but I would like it on the record

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and a formal letter saying if you

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can invoice them for this why

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not the whole entire thing and leave

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me

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out of it. I would like to hear what

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everybody has

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to say.

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>> I have his number. We can call him.

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call him up and ask him.

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>> why don't

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you

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do that right now and see if it works.

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>> as a point

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of information on this as it is written,

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I understood this approval to be specific

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to the charter school, not to

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anything else.

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>> the city has had this agreement in

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essentially the

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same form for the past five years.

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commissioner may recall in 2012

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when the conditional use was

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approved one of the conditions

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was to have a school resource officer

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on site.

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at some point over the years the sheriff's

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office made the policy decision to

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enter into contracts directly with

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charter schools. There are several

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schools in the county with these agreements.

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essentially they pass a funding mechanism

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. They will not enter into a contract

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with the sheriff's office. We have

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a resource officer. The intent of

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the agreement

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is to pay the full amount of that

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particular position.

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that has been the arrangement over

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the years.

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if the commissioner would like us

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to send a letter asking to revisit

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I have no objection.

322
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it's the same form agreement that

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the city renaissance and sheriff's

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office has had to facilitate compliance

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.

326
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>> I would like to add a point

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of information. If the

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sheriff was billing the school directly

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and our rates get raised,

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we are not responsible for covering

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it because

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if it is $100 that is what we are

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charging

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them that's great. If we get billed $120,

335
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this agreement

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does not cover that. It does not cover

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their increase

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in prices. I verified that.

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>> the intent of this agreement

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is for

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renaissance to cover the full cost

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of that position to the extent

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it is adjusted.

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the city would invoice renaissance

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or if it were to go down that

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lower amount.

347
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I have no further questions

348
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. I am in support.

349
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>>

350
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the commissioner is right. We are

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involved

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because we have to be. It's not right.

353
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it does not

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make sense.

355
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they ask that you move the po box

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on their

357
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. With our mailing address.

358
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>> if we do approve this it's the

359
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attachment

360
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will it still be part of that approval.

361
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>>

362
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we can do it but we will just

363
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be paying jacob to mail something

364
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.

365
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>>

366
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I don't think if you can sit there

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and invoice somebody in paragraph 22

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you can invoice

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them now

370
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and I can avoid this ever coming before

371
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me again.

372
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>> I would

373
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ask robin who watches east meeting

374
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and makes note to

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make a report and understand why we

376
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don't

377
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want to be involved. This was mayor

378
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ross's point exactly.

379
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commissioner mallozzi

380
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has taken up the

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cause. He complained about this every year.

382
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you are right, but it is what

383
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it is.

384
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>> they are taking notes. >> I will

385
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second

386
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the motion.

387
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>>

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we will make the changes in the other provisions.

389
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>> commissioner smith. >> yes.

390
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>> commissioner mallozzi. >> no. >>

391
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commissioner katzman.

392
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commissioner shrouder . Mayor curran.

393
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>>

394
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next, again pulled

395
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by commissioner mallozzi.

396
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>> two reasons.

397
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any little bit of art

398
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is a win win. I love that we are

399
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doing the fire hydrants. This is just

400
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going to make it even

401
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better. I also wanted to

402
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forewarn everyone that at the next

403
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commission meeting I will bring back

404
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an item that I had brought up to previous

405
00:21:26,787 --> 00:21:28,787
commissions

406
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about having artwork in the plaza's

407
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.

408
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that way, this might be something for

409
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a business person,

410
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because it can

411
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draw people

412
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in. It will not cost us anything.

413
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I just wanted to

414
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make everybody cognizant of the fact

415
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that is

416
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bringing that back to say this is

417
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a

418
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great step in the right direction.

419
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>> motion

420
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to approve.

421
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>> motion. >> second.

422
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>> call about. >>

423
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commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

424
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commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder.

425
00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:07,792
mayor curran.

426
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>> 25 is a motion to approve the

427
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security lighting in the amount of $89,500

428
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utilizing the contract number

429
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pulled by commissioner mallozzi.

430
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>>

431
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I pulled it because

432
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my husband has issues with l.e.d.s

433
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and their lifespan.

434
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I asked

435
00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:32,786
jennifer if we could check to see

436
00:22:32,786 --> 00:22:34,786
if the lifeboats

437
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were included in the warranty.

438
00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:41,192
if we can have

439
00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:43,797
documentation to that effect.

440
00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:44,798
that way when they do not last their

441
00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:46,800
lifespan if we could say,

442
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,400
replace this. Has it been included?

443
00:22:50,804 --> 00:22:52,804
>> yes.

444
00:22:53,807 --> 00:22:55,807
>> you change. >>

445
00:23:00,814 --> 00:23:02,816
the light bulb itself is not included

446
00:23:02,816 --> 00:23:04,818
but the polls and maintenance of

447
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the fixtures is part of it.'s tenure

448
00:23:07,788 --> 00:23:08,789
warranty.

449
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:11,792
>> but not on the light bulb.

450
00:23:11,792 --> 00:23:13,792
>> okay. Just fyi

451
00:23:13,794 --> 00:23:14,795
I'm all for the new light fixtures,

452
00:23:14,795 --> 00:23:16,795
but the

453
00:23:17,798 --> 00:23:19,798
light bulbs

454
00:23:20,801 --> 00:23:22,801
,

455
00:23:23,804 --> 00:23:25,806
l.e.d.s they say they are good for

456
00:23:25,806 --> 00:23:28,806
25,000 hours, five years. My husband

457
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has proven in our house that they last

458
00:23:32,813 --> 00:23:35,813
one year no matter what

459
00:23:35,816 --> 00:23:38,816
you do . I think that

460
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if we are

461
00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:41,788
banking our budgeting for these light

462
00:23:41,788 --> 00:23:43,788
bulbs to be

463
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45 years we need to

464
00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:48,795
water but what we are budgeting because

465
00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:49,796
they

466
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do not last what they are supposed to.

467
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:53,800
>> motion to approve. >> second. >>

468
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800
commissioner smith.

469
00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:57,804
commissioner mallozzi.

470
00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:00,204
commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder,

471
00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:03,810
mayor curran.

472
00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:05,810
>> no.

473
00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:10,815
>> commission, 28 is

474
00:24:11,818 --> 00:24:14,788
a motion to approve for the

475
00:24:14,788 --> 00:24:16,788
optimist club

476
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800
>>

477
00:24:29,803 --> 00:24:30,804
we do not need a motion.

478
00:24:30,804 --> 00:24:32,804
>>

479
00:24:32,806 --> 00:24:35,806
I will make a motion.

480
00:24:46,787 --> 00:24:47,788
>> part of the agreement allows us

481
00:24:47,788 --> 00:24:49,788
to conduct

482
00:24:50,791 --> 00:24:53,191
. I think it will

483
00:24:53,794 --> 00:24:55,796
be beneficial . Obviously we will have

484
00:24:55,796 --> 00:24:56,797
the manager come up with a scope that

485
00:24:56,797 --> 00:24:58,797
will

486
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,800
be productive to reconcile things

487
00:25:02,803 --> 00:25:04,803
and get

488
00:25:04,805 --> 00:25:08,405
opinions on best practices and stuff.

489
00:25:08,809 --> 00:25:11,812
I think we owe it to

490
00:25:11,812 --> 00:25:13,812
the community.

491
00:25:14,815 --> 00:25:15,816
because the other use agreements required

492
00:25:15,816 --> 00:25:16,817
them

493
00:25:16,817 --> 00:25:17,818
to cover the cost. It will help us

494
00:25:17,818 --> 00:25:19,818
going forward with

495
00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:22,787
the transition

496
00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:25,790
.

497
00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:29,793
>> I just have a question.

498
00:25:29,796 --> 00:25:31,796
with

499
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,799
this encompass possibly

500
00:25:35,802 --> 00:25:38,802
a forensic audit as well.

501
00:25:38,805 --> 00:25:41,205
>> I would make sure

502
00:25:41,808 --> 00:25:42,809
to include .

503
00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:43,810
>> that would be

504
00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:47,814
considered part of the certified financial audit.

505
00:25:47,814 --> 00:25:50,214
>> under contract the city

506
00:25:50,817 --> 00:25:53,217
will determine the scope

507
00:25:53,787 --> 00:25:54,788
if it is needed.

508
00:25:54,788 --> 00:25:56,788
>>

509
00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,790
my intent would be forensic.

510
00:25:59,793 --> 00:26:02,793
>> that is fine with me.

511
00:26:08,802 --> 00:26:14,802
I don't know if that is a term of art

512
00:26:14,808 --> 00:26:15,809
.

513
00:26:15,809 --> 00:26:17,809
>>

514
00:26:17,811 --> 00:26:18,812
anybody else?

515
00:26:18,812 --> 00:26:20,814
>> I understand the audit

516
00:26:20,814 --> 00:26:23,817
and it's part of the facilities

517
00:26:23,817 --> 00:26:26,217
agreement. Is it appropriate

518
00:26:26,787 --> 00:26:29,187
to ask what the

519
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piece will look like or

520
00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:33,794
what that means behind it ? Is there

521
00:26:33,794 --> 00:26:34,795
any

522
00:26:34,795 --> 00:26:36,797
further insight on what we are looking

523
00:26:36,797 --> 00:26:37,798
at?

524
00:26:37,798 --> 00:26:38,799
>> the difference

525
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,803
between the regular order and forensic order,

526
00:26:42,803 --> 00:26:45,803
the forensic order is looking

527
00:26:45,806 --> 00:26:48,806
back to if there were 11

528
00:26:48,809 --> 00:26:50,809
-- irregularities.

529
00:26:51,812 --> 00:26:54,812
a regular audit is just

530
00:26:54,815 --> 00:26:55,816
making sure you

531
00:26:55,816 --> 00:26:57,818
are putting the right things in the

532
00:26:57,818 --> 00:27:00,787
right places and doing the

533
00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:01,788
right accounts.

534
00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:03,788
>> okay.

535
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:05,790
>> any

536
00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:06,793
more questions? Call the vote.

537
00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:07,794
>>

538
00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:10,194
commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

539
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,799
commissioner katzman.

540
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,201
commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

541
00:27:18,805 --> 00:27:19,806
>> am 29 is

542
00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:22,806
a discussion and potential implementation

543
00:27:27,814 --> 00:27:28,815
for disposal offered

544
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:29,816
by commissioner mallozzi.

545
00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:30,817
>> I will

546
00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:31,818
make a motion.

547
00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:33,818
>> second.

548
00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:38,790
>> okay.

549
00:27:39,793 --> 00:27:41,793
basically

550
00:27:42,796 --> 00:27:45,796
this is how it started.

551
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:47,799
I was mulching

552
00:27:48,802 --> 00:27:51,805
and it took me a while .

553
00:27:51,805 --> 00:27:54,808
as I am outside for hours

554
00:27:54,808 --> 00:27:57,811
on end in the hideous heat,

555
00:27:57,811 --> 00:27:58,812
I see the neighbor

556
00:27:58,812 --> 00:28:00,814
landscaper coming . He mows the lawn

557
00:28:00,814 --> 00:28:02,814
and proceeds to

558
00:28:03,817 --> 00:28:05,817
blow everything

559
00:28:06,787 --> 00:28:07,788
to the other neighbor.

560
00:28:07,788 --> 00:28:09,790
two days later the other neighbor

561
00:28:09,790 --> 00:28:11,790
comes there landscaper

562
00:28:14,795 --> 00:28:15,796
and it goes back to the original side.

563
00:28:15,796 --> 00:28:17,796
this is constant.

564
00:28:20,801 --> 00:28:23,804
I don't see anyone from code in the audience,

565
00:28:23,804 --> 00:28:24,805
but it's not the first time neighbors

566
00:28:24,805 --> 00:28:26,805
have complained.

567
00:28:27,808 --> 00:28:28,809
there have been wars over lawn clippings.

568
00:28:28,809 --> 00:28:30,809
the

569
00:28:30,811 --> 00:28:31,812
problem I had was when the

570
00:28:31,812 --> 00:28:33,814
lawn clippings are not picked up they

571
00:28:33,814 --> 00:28:36,817
wind up in the street. They

572
00:28:36,817 --> 00:28:38,817
clog the --

573
00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:41,788
I call them gutters but

574
00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:44,791
they clog the sewers. When they are

575
00:28:44,791 --> 00:28:45,792
wet they pose a hazard to cars because

576
00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:47,794
they can't get on them.

577
00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:48,795
they pose a hazard to people that

578
00:28:48,795 --> 00:28:51,195
are walking on them

579
00:28:51,798 --> 00:28:52,799
. We are in the rainy season and we

580
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:53,800
also

581
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400
have hurricanes coming or horrible storms.

582
00:28:57,804 --> 00:28:58,805
all of the drainage is

583
00:28:58,805 --> 00:29:00,807
potentially blocked up with something

584
00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:02,807
that could easily

585
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:06,810
be rectified. When I had

586
00:29:06,813 --> 00:29:09,816
a conversation with the code officers

587
00:29:09,816 --> 00:29:12,819
I said, is this something you can enforce?

588
00:29:12,819 --> 00:29:15,789
they can. They would have to see

589
00:29:15,789 --> 00:29:18,789
it but so many people

590
00:29:18,792 --> 00:29:20,792
have cameras it

591
00:29:20,794 --> 00:29:23,797
is easy to watch that someone is not complying.

592
00:29:23,797 --> 00:29:24,798
I also spoke to people I know that

593
00:29:24,798 --> 00:29:26,798
do lawns. They

594
00:29:27,801 --> 00:29:30,804
said it would take an extra 5

595
00:29:30,804 --> 00:29:31,805
to 7 minutes. What they do now, if

596
00:29:31,805 --> 00:29:33,807
they want to they can put everything

597
00:29:33,807 --> 00:29:36,810
in a pile with their machinery

598
00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:39,810
and just take the pile

599
00:29:39,813 --> 00:29:42,816
and put it in the customer's waste

600
00:29:42,816 --> 00:29:44,818
receptacle. It has an impact on us

601
00:29:44,818 --> 00:29:45,819
financially because we will spend

602
00:29:45,819 --> 00:29:47,788
less

603
00:29:47,788 --> 00:29:51,388
trying --less time with the truck

604
00:29:51,792 --> 00:29:54,795
cleaning out the systems and it could lessen

605
00:29:54,795 --> 00:29:55,796
our chances of having a

606
00:29:55,796 --> 00:29:57,798
hazard for people that are walking

607
00:29:57,798 --> 00:29:59,800
and driving during the

608
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,801
rainy season.

609
00:30:00,801 --> 00:30:02,803
>> what are you asking?

610
00:30:02,803 --> 00:30:06,807
>> my ask is that we strengthen the ordinance

611
00:30:06,807 --> 00:30:08,809
to where it is giving

612
00:30:08,809 --> 00:30:09,810
an arm, for lack of a better word,

613
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:11,810
to the code

614
00:30:12,813 --> 00:30:15,816
department when there is an issue

615
00:30:15,816 --> 00:30:16,817
and they see people or

616
00:30:16,817 --> 00:30:18,819
one neighbor complaints about the

617
00:30:18,819 --> 00:30:20,787
other neighbor and it's

618
00:30:20,787 --> 00:30:25,587
caught on a ring camera we do have

619
00:30:27,794 --> 00:30:30,194
>> I support that. May

620
00:30:30,797 --> 00:30:33,197
be at another subsection.

621
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,800
you could specifically designate something.

622
00:30:36,803 --> 00:30:38,803
>> we will work

623
00:30:38,805 --> 00:30:39,806
with code enforcement to bring that

624
00:30:39,806 --> 00:30:41,806
for further consideration.

625
00:30:42,809 --> 00:30:44,809
>> any more discussion?

626
00:30:45,812 --> 00:30:48,212
>> if I am recognized.

627
00:30:48,815 --> 00:30:50,815
thank you. Has

628
00:30:51,818 --> 00:30:53,787
our city

629
00:30:53,787 --> 00:30:54,788
ever had this ordinance before to

630
00:30:54,788 --> 00:30:56,788
this level?

631
00:30:56,790 --> 00:30:57,791
maybe through the city attorney.

632
00:30:57,791 --> 00:30:59,791
>>

633
00:30:59,793 --> 00:31:00,794
what is your question?

634
00:31:00,794 --> 00:31:01,795
>> has our

635
00:31:01,795 --> 00:31:03,795
city had this

636
00:31:03,797 --> 00:31:04,798
language prior?

637
00:31:04,798 --> 00:31:06,798
>> I'm

638
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,803
not aware of our city. There's

639
00:31:09,803 --> 00:31:10,804
some cities in broward county that

640
00:31:10,804 --> 00:31:11,805
to

641
00:31:11,805 --> 00:31:12,806
prohibit blowing away of your debris

642
00:31:12,806 --> 00:31:14,806
to protect

643
00:31:14,808 --> 00:31:15,809
from drainage. Hollywood has it and

644
00:31:15,809 --> 00:31:17,809
maybe others

645
00:31:18,812 --> 00:31:20,812
as well.

646
00:31:21,815 --> 00:31:22,816
we could work with code and bring

647
00:31:22,816 --> 00:31:23,817
back

648
00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:24,818
language for the commission to desist --

649
00:31:24,818 --> 00:31:25,819
consider.

650
00:31:25,819 --> 00:31:26,787
>>

651
00:31:26,787 --> 00:31:27,788
call the vote.

652
00:31:27,788 --> 00:31:28,789
>> the other thing

653
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:30,791
on this. I thought over

654
00:31:30,791 --> 00:31:32,791
the years

655
00:31:33,794 --> 00:31:37,994
about us increasing maybe the street sweeping

656
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:39,800
and being able to justify that through

657
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,800
stormwater fees

658
00:31:41,802 --> 00:31:42,803
or whatever . The manager has kind

659
00:31:42,803 --> 00:31:44,803
of also

660
00:31:44,805 --> 00:31:45,806
told me it's useless if you do not

661
00:31:45,806 --> 00:31:47,806
have gutters

662
00:31:48,809 --> 00:31:51,209
. Is there some type

663
00:31:51,812 --> 00:31:53,812
,

664
00:31:54,815 --> 00:31:55,816
I think I would like to make the streets

665
00:31:55,816 --> 00:31:57,816
look better.

666
00:32:00,787 --> 00:32:02,787
>> the issue again,

667
00:32:03,790 --> 00:32:04,791
we will work with code on this because

668
00:32:04,791 --> 00:32:06,791
we can certainly

669
00:32:06,793 --> 00:32:07,794
regulate.

670
00:32:07,794 --> 00:32:09,796
>> can the city look, jennifer

671
00:32:09,796 --> 00:32:12,796
said maybe a vacuum thing.

672
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,800
>> we can look

673
00:32:16,803 --> 00:32:19,803
into what else is available.

674
00:32:22,809 --> 00:32:23,810
>> they are

675
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:25,812
talking about to sweep the streets

676
00:32:25,812 --> 00:32:27,812
and vacuum up

677
00:32:28,815 --> 00:32:30,815
the yard debris.

678
00:32:31,818 --> 00:32:33,818
>> any more discussion

679
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:35,789
? Call the vote.

680
00:32:35,789 --> 00:32:36,790
>> commissioner

681
00:32:36,790 --> 00:32:39,790
smith. Commissioner mallozzi. Commissioner katzman.

682
00:32:40,794 --> 00:32:42,794
commissioner shrouder.

683
00:32:43,797 --> 00:32:44,798
mayor curran.

684
00:32:44,798 --> 00:32:46,798
>> yes.

685
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,800
item 30 as the

686
00:32:48,802 --> 00:32:49,803
review and approval of the yearly

687
00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:51,803
evaluation

688
00:32:52,806 --> 00:32:54,806
salary increase

689
00:32:55,809 --> 00:32:57,809
. Motion?

690
00:32:58,812 --> 00:33:00,812
>> motion for

691
00:33:01,815 --> 00:33:02,816
discussion.

692
00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:04,816
>> second. >> here we

693
00:33:04,818 --> 00:33:06,818
go. Mr. Shrouder.

694
00:33:10,791 --> 00:33:11,792
>> I

695
00:33:11,792 --> 00:33:13,794
do not think this has a specific number.

696
00:33:13,794 --> 00:33:15,794
there was no

697
00:33:16,797 --> 00:33:19,197
nothing in the backup.

698
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,800
>> it

699
00:33:22,803 --> 00:33:23,804
was a $20,000 race I thought.

700
00:33:23,804 --> 00:33:25,804
>>

701
00:33:27,808 --> 00:33:28,809
there is not that anywhere. On discussion I

702
00:33:28,809 --> 00:33:30,809
think is where

703
00:33:31,812 --> 00:33:33,812
we are.

704
00:33:33,814 --> 00:33:36,817
>> I think 500,000 is not that bad.

705
00:33:36,817 --> 00:33:40,787
just making sure you were paying attention.

706
00:33:40,787 --> 00:33:42,787
listen.

707
00:33:43,790 --> 00:33:46,793
the way that we did it was not right.

708
00:33:46,793 --> 00:33:48,793
I know

709
00:33:49,796 --> 00:33:51,796
how this happened.

710
00:33:51,798 --> 00:33:52,799
eggleston got more money. We had to

711
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,799
to get

712
00:33:55,802 --> 00:33:57,802
greg to

713
00:33:58,805 --> 00:34:00,805
go for alex

714
00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:04,811
we had to write in the negotiation ability.

715
00:34:04,811 --> 00:34:06,811
then he

716
00:34:07,814 --> 00:34:09,816
was going to say yes

717
00:34:09,816 --> 00:34:13,787
so he's down there nickel and dime

718
00:34:13,787 --> 00:34:15,787
in him

719
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:17,791
because greg thought he was an excellent

720
00:34:17,791 --> 00:34:19,793
negotiator. The reality is the gentleman

721
00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:22,793
with way more years and

722
00:34:22,796 --> 00:34:24,796
in my opinion

723
00:34:25,799 --> 00:34:28,199
doing more to accomplish

724
00:34:28,802 --> 00:34:31,802
. It is just not right.

725
00:34:33,807 --> 00:34:34,808
the only way to make sure greg would

726
00:34:34,808 --> 00:34:36,808
vote for

727
00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:37,811
him was to give the king a crown to

728
00:34:37,811 --> 00:34:38,812
go negotiate it.

729
00:34:38,812 --> 00:34:40,812
>>

730
00:34:40,814 --> 00:34:43,817
may I ask where he was and vice versa?

731
00:34:43,817 --> 00:34:45,817
>>

732
00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:52,790
I believe his starting salary

733
00:34:52,793 --> 00:34:54,793
in june

734
00:34:55,796 --> 00:34:57,796
2023 was

735
00:34:58,799 --> 00:34:59,800
to 38.

736
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,802
>> when I looked at the scale

737
00:35:01,802 --> 00:35:04,802
I thought to 67 was fair.

738
00:35:04,805 --> 00:35:07,808
in fairness, he told me he shot a

739
00:35:07,808 --> 00:35:09,808
lower number .

740
00:35:10,811 --> 00:35:13,814
I looked at the different ones

741
00:35:13,814 --> 00:35:15,814
. I can give

742
00:35:16,817 --> 00:35:20,417
you for example, out the door

743
00:35:21,788 --> 00:35:22,789
we have employees through a contractor

744
00:35:22,789 --> 00:35:24,791
that cost us in

745
00:35:24,791 --> 00:35:25,792
the threes. One of them walking in

746
00:35:25,792 --> 00:35:27,792
the door

747
00:35:31,798 --> 00:35:34,798
what you think is fair

748
00:35:37,804 --> 00:35:38,805
.

749
00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:39,806
>> if I may,

750
00:35:39,806 --> 00:35:43,406
give me the crown for negotiation.

751
00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:46,810
do we have --I'm sure

752
00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:48,813
we do

753
00:35:49,816 --> 00:35:51,816
. Can we confirm 248

754
00:35:52,819 --> 00:35:55,789
was where the prior city manager

755
00:35:55,789 --> 00:35:56,790
salary cap was?

756
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:58,792
>> I can look at

757
00:35:58,792 --> 00:35:59,793
his contract. It was 247.

758
00:35:59,793 --> 00:36:01,793
>>

759
00:36:01,795 --> 00:36:04,795
all right. I am good

760
00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:06,798
with 248

761
00:36:07,801 --> 00:36:10,804
. That goes from what I see

762
00:36:10,804 --> 00:36:13,807
here. I am not willing to see

763
00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:15,807
267. Maybe

764
00:36:18,812 --> 00:36:19,813
it gives him some room for improvement

765
00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:21,815
and we will see

766
00:36:21,815 --> 00:36:22,816
what he does for the fiscal year change

767
00:36:22,816 --> 00:36:24,816
but that's where

768
00:36:25,819 --> 00:36:27,819
I am.

769
00:36:28,789 --> 00:36:30,789
>> is that like

770
00:36:31,792 --> 00:36:32,793
a 5% raise?

771
00:36:32,793 --> 00:36:34,793
>>

772
00:36:34,795 --> 00:36:35,796
what do you make now.

773
00:36:35,796 --> 00:36:37,796
>> 233

774
00:36:43,804 --> 00:36:45,804
.

775
00:36:49,810 --> 00:36:50,811
234 78.

776
00:36:50,811 --> 00:36:52,811
>> remember,

777
00:36:52,813 --> 00:36:55,213
we hired him as

778
00:36:55,816 --> 00:36:59,416
an intern. What a great negotiator.

779
00:37:01,788 --> 00:37:03,788
>> commissioner shrouder,

780
00:37:04,791 --> 00:37:07,794
I will give you some thoughts behind that.

781
00:37:07,794 --> 00:37:09,794
when you look

782
00:37:10,797 --> 00:37:12,797
at salaries

783
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,801
throughout the county that is provided.

784
00:37:14,801 --> 00:37:17,801
you look at residence, population

785
00:37:21,808 --> 00:37:22,809
and where the salary lines up and

786
00:37:22,809 --> 00:37:24,811
what they identify some additional

787
00:37:24,811 --> 00:37:25,812
benefits which may be through cars

788
00:37:25,812 --> 00:37:28,212
and different allowances. I

789
00:37:28,815 --> 00:37:30,817
think they have us somewhere in

790
00:37:30,817 --> 00:37:33,817
the 34,000 range of residence. Yes,

791
00:37:34,788 --> 00:37:36,790
there are some here that are

792
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:37,791
significantly less than us and pay

793
00:37:37,791 --> 00:37:39,791
the city

794
00:37:40,794 --> 00:37:43,794
manager my. To show good

795
00:37:43,797 --> 00:37:46,800
faith and at least put the

796
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,800
city manager where

797
00:37:49,803 --> 00:37:52,203
at least our prior

798
00:37:52,806 --> 00:37:55,806
city manager was at that

799
00:37:55,809 --> 00:37:57,809
would be

800
00:37:57,811 --> 00:38:01,411
a good starting place. Understanding that

801
00:38:01,815 --> 00:38:03,815
at

802
00:38:03,817 --> 00:38:04,818
that point you do become more inside

803
00:38:04,818 --> 00:38:06,820
the marketplace with the

804
00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:08,789
city managers. I think that would

805
00:38:08,789 --> 00:38:11,789
at least start off to

806
00:38:11,792 --> 00:38:13,792
be fair.

807
00:38:14,795 --> 00:38:17,195
>> you want to negotiate?

808
00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:19,798
>>

809
00:38:20,801 --> 00:38:23,801
I am a terrible negotiator.

810
00:38:23,804 --> 00:38:25,804
>>

811
00:38:25,806 --> 00:38:30,606
what was the amount you said you made?

812
00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:34,813
>>

813
00:38:35,816 --> 00:38:37,816
238 780.

814
00:38:41,788 --> 00:38:43,788
>>

815
00:38:44,791 --> 00:38:47,794
isis. Can you tell me the amount

816
00:38:47,794 --> 00:38:50,194
of employees that and

817
00:38:50,797 --> 00:38:52,797
up 5% in a

818
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,800
pay increase?

819
00:38:56,803 --> 00:38:58,803
>>

820
00:38:59,806 --> 00:39:00,807
on the merit

821
00:39:00,807 --> 00:39:02,809
list that I gave you I do not think

822
00:39:02,809 --> 00:39:04,809
there was

823
00:39:05,812 --> 00:39:07,812
anyone going over 4%.

824
00:39:08,815 --> 00:39:11,815
>> there is one at five.

825
00:39:14,788 --> 00:39:17,791
I figured you might l. You did not

826
00:39:17,791 --> 00:39:20,191
memorize this? I'm joking.

827
00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:21,795
I thought

828
00:39:21,795 --> 00:39:23,797
somebody said something. I had requested

829
00:39:23,797 --> 00:39:26,797
to see how much money

830
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,800
our employees

831
00:39:29,803 --> 00:39:32,803
, how much of a percentage.

832
00:39:32,806 --> 00:39:35,806
I just got this as

833
00:39:35,809 --> 00:39:38,809
I got here. We had

834
00:39:38,812 --> 00:39:40,812
one at 1.55.

835
00:39:41,815 --> 00:39:43,815
one at 1.3. 33

836
00:39:44,818 --> 00:39:46,818
at 2.0. One at 2.3,

837
00:39:47,788 --> 00:39:49,788
one at 2.07, 2.5,

838
00:39:50,791 --> 00:39:52,791
2.90. Et cetera.

839
00:39:53,794 --> 00:39:55,794
one person

840
00:39:56,797 --> 00:39:57,798
got five.

841
00:39:57,798 --> 00:39:59,798
>>

842
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,800
point of information.

843
00:40:02,803 --> 00:40:04,803
with this

844
00:40:05,806 --> 00:40:07,806
be a

845
00:40:08,809 --> 00:40:11,209
valid question on the

846
00:40:11,812 --> 00:40:13,812
premise of

847
00:40:13,814 --> 00:40:17,414
was their salary restructuring and this

848
00:40:17,818 --> 00:40:20,787
is in addition as raises?

849
00:40:20,787 --> 00:40:23,790
could you give me that information.

850
00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:25,790
>>

851
00:40:26,793 --> 00:40:28,793
answer his question.

852
00:40:29,796 --> 00:40:30,797
be my guest.

853
00:40:30,797 --> 00:40:31,798
>> I want to understand

854
00:40:31,798 --> 00:40:35,802
if I'm looking at equal or if this

855
00:40:35,802 --> 00:40:36,803
is looked upon as restructuring and

856
00:40:36,803 --> 00:40:38,803
then

857
00:40:38,805 --> 00:40:39,806
we give merit on top of that.

858
00:40:39,806 --> 00:40:41,806
>>

859
00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:44,811
there is no need to restructure a

860
00:40:44,811 --> 00:40:46,811
contract. Let me

861
00:40:46,813 --> 00:40:47,814
explain why. Not only did he have

862
00:40:47,814 --> 00:40:49,814
a contract that

863
00:40:49,816 --> 00:40:52,819
he signed, he had an addendum to his

864
00:40:52,819 --> 00:40:53,787
contract.

865
00:40:53,787 --> 00:40:54,788
>> in november that changed

866
00:40:54,788 --> 00:40:56,788
his terms.

867
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:58,792
>> I am asking the

868
00:40:58,792 --> 00:40:59,793
question on this which commissioner

869
00:40:59,793 --> 00:41:01,793
mallozzi just read

870
00:41:02,796 --> 00:41:04,796
into existence

871
00:41:05,799 --> 00:41:08,799
can you confirm if there,

872
00:41:08,802 --> 00:41:11,802
if that is what restructuring

873
00:41:11,805 --> 00:41:14,205
and in addition these

874
00:41:14,808 --> 00:41:19,608
are raises or are these just the numbers

875
00:41:20,814 --> 00:41:23,814
>> to put it more clearly

876
00:41:25,819 --> 00:41:26,820
the raises or percentage it went up

877
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:28,820
. Merit, restructuring,

878
00:41:29,790 --> 00:41:32,190
what are the percentages?

879
00:41:32,793 --> 00:41:34,793
>> they very

880
00:41:35,796 --> 00:41:36,797
.

881
00:41:36,797 --> 00:41:38,799
>> that is a huge difference.

882
00:41:38,799 --> 00:41:40,801
the fact is if we were

883
00:41:40,801 --> 00:41:41,802
underpaying employees and it finally

884
00:41:41,802 --> 00:41:43,802
came out

885
00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:48,809
.

886
00:41:48,809 --> 00:41:50,809
>>

887
00:41:50,811 --> 00:41:51,812
even after the pay plan.

888
00:41:51,812 --> 00:41:53,812
>>

889
00:41:53,814 --> 00:41:56,817
the only reason I asked this

890
00:41:56,817 --> 00:41:59,217
the city manager today

891
00:41:59,820 --> 00:42:02,220
was under negotiation because

892
00:42:02,789 --> 00:42:04,789
it was less

893
00:42:04,791 --> 00:42:08,795
than where the last one started at.

894
00:42:08,795 --> 00:42:13,595
I just want to see these percentages here

895
00:42:14,801 --> 00:42:17,801
with where she is presenting.

896
00:42:17,804 --> 00:42:19,804
>>

897
00:42:20,807 --> 00:42:23,207
I thought ryan was

898
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:26,210
going to answer that.

899
00:42:26,813 --> 00:42:29,816
>> the last time we talked about

900
00:42:29,816 --> 00:42:31,816
that --

901
00:42:32,819 --> 00:42:33,787
I will give you an example.

902
00:42:33,787 --> 00:42:34,788
>>

903
00:42:34,788 --> 00:42:35,789
all I need to know is wasn't more

904
00:42:35,789 --> 00:42:37,789
than we

905
00:42:38,792 --> 00:42:40,792
were presenting.

906
00:42:41,795 --> 00:42:42,796
in addition it was this?

907
00:42:42,796 --> 00:42:44,796
>> remember

908
00:42:44,798 --> 00:42:45,799
last year what percentage of employees

909
00:42:45,799 --> 00:42:47,799
had

910
00:42:47,801 --> 00:42:50,201
an increase for cola ,

911
00:42:50,804 --> 00:42:53,804
it was half of them.

912
00:42:53,807 --> 00:42:55,807
>> I just want

913
00:42:56,810 --> 00:42:58,810
to know .

914
00:43:02,816 --> 00:43:05,819
I guess city manager if you could

915
00:43:05,819 --> 00:43:07,819
direct somebody

916
00:43:08,789 --> 00:43:10,789
.

917
00:43:11,792 --> 00:43:13,792
>> that could basically

918
00:43:14,795 --> 00:43:17,795
compare employees with the peers

919
00:43:20,801 --> 00:43:21,802
.

920
00:43:21,802 --> 00:43:23,802
>>

921
00:43:23,804 --> 00:43:25,804
in addition

922
00:43:26,807 --> 00:43:27,808
.

923
00:43:27,808 --> 00:43:29,810
>> than the merits came in after

924
00:43:29,810 --> 00:43:31,810
it is

925
00:43:32,813 --> 00:43:33,814
restructured.

926
00:43:33,814 --> 00:43:35,814
>> thank you.

927
00:43:35,816 --> 00:43:37,816
>> so

928
00:43:38,819 --> 00:43:41,788
--I cannot hear what you are

929
00:43:41,788 --> 00:43:42,789
saying.

930
00:43:42,789 --> 00:43:44,789
>> in addition

931
00:43:54,801 --> 00:43:55,802
, there were people

932
00:43:55,802 --> 00:43:57,804
at given additional increases of 10

933
00:43:57,804 --> 00:44:00,804
or 20% right before it started

934
00:44:00,807 --> 00:44:03,810
. For those ones I just sat

935
00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:05,810
down on merit

936
00:44:06,813 --> 00:44:08,813
.

937
00:44:08,815 --> 00:44:09,816
this is part of the restructure that

938
00:44:09,816 --> 00:44:11,816
are not

939
00:44:12,819 --> 00:44:14,819
readjusted.

940
00:44:15,789 --> 00:44:17,789
>>

941
00:44:18,792 --> 00:44:21,192
you said people got 10

942
00:44:21,795 --> 00:44:22,796
to 20%?

943
00:44:22,796 --> 00:44:24,796
>> yes. Two people

944
00:44:24,798 --> 00:44:25,799
did.

945
00:44:25,799 --> 00:44:27,799
>> did we vote? >>

946
00:44:27,801 --> 00:44:29,801
you don't vote

947
00:44:30,804 --> 00:44:33,204
on individual salary increases.

948
00:44:39,813 --> 00:44:41,813
>> 35, 34%, 33

949
00:44:42,816 --> 00:44:43,817
. I'm

950
00:44:43,817 --> 00:44:44,818
going from highest to lowest.

951
00:44:44,818 --> 00:44:45,819
>> could

952
00:44:45,819 --> 00:44:48,219
use say what the

953
00:44:48,789 --> 00:44:50,789
lowest was?

954
00:44:51,792 --> 00:44:53,792
>> let

955
00:44:53,794 --> 00:44:58,594
me give you the average. The average was

956
00:45:00,801 --> 00:45:02,801
14.1

957
00:45:11,812 --> 00:45:12,813
.

958
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:15,813
>> back to me speaking. Several

959
00:45:15,816 --> 00:45:18,216
things. One, I have

960
00:45:18,819 --> 00:45:19,820
an

961
00:45:19,820 --> 00:45:21,788
issue with the increase. There was

962
00:45:21,788 --> 00:45:23,790
a renegotiation in october

963
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:27,390
about your parachute which no employee

964
00:45:27,794 --> 00:45:29,794
has that .

965
00:45:30,797 --> 00:45:32,797
>> at the time

966
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,801
--

967
00:45:34,801 --> 00:45:35,802
>> can I finish speaking

968
00:45:35,802 --> 00:45:36,803
and then you can go? That is number

969
00:45:36,803 --> 00:45:38,803
one. Number

970
00:45:38,805 --> 00:45:39,806
two, if you look at the reviews they

971
00:45:39,806 --> 00:45:41,806
went

972
00:45:42,809 --> 00:45:43,810
from mine

973
00:45:43,810 --> 00:45:45,812
is definitely the worst because I

974
00:45:45,812 --> 00:45:47,812
gave negatives

975
00:45:48,815 --> 00:45:49,816
and there are people that

976
00:45:49,816 --> 00:45:51,818
are totally enamored with you. They

977
00:45:51,818 --> 00:45:52,819
think you are the next best thing

978
00:45:52,819 --> 00:45:54,788
since sliced bread. There are two

979
00:45:54,788 --> 00:45:56,788
of us

980
00:45:56,790 --> 00:46:00,794
that feel like we are the redheaded

981
00:46:00,794 --> 00:46:02,794
stepchildren. Obviously the

982
00:46:02,796 --> 00:46:03,797
city manager that we get to deal with

983
00:46:03,797 --> 00:46:05,799
and the city manager others

984
00:46:05,799 --> 00:46:06,800
get to deal with are not the same

985
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,800
city manager.

986
00:46:09,803 --> 00:46:10,804
I don't get half the information the

987
00:46:10,804 --> 00:46:12,804
other

988
00:46:12,806 --> 00:46:15,809
people get. I'm not are even

989
00:46:15,809 --> 00:46:16,810
going to bring that

990
00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:18,812
up. More just highlighting that. The

991
00:46:18,812 --> 00:46:21,815
other thing I have an issue with is

992
00:46:21,815 --> 00:46:23,817
the city manager --I

993
00:46:23,817 --> 00:46:27,788
know you are going to back me on this

994
00:46:27,788 --> 00:46:28,789
mr. Katzman.

995
00:46:28,789 --> 00:46:30,791
the city manager gets his vacation

996
00:46:30,791 --> 00:46:32,791
time up front.

997
00:46:32,793 --> 00:46:33,794
the last city manager cost us $30,000

998
00:46:33,794 --> 00:46:36,194
because he left after

999
00:46:36,797 --> 00:46:38,799
the first. Even though he

1000
00:46:38,799 --> 00:46:39,800
worked three days after the first,

1001
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,800
it was $30,000.

1002
00:46:44,805 --> 00:46:45,806
if we are going to negotiate anything

1003
00:46:45,806 --> 00:46:47,806
I want

1004
00:46:48,809 --> 00:46:49,810
the city manager to earn their vacation

1005
00:46:49,810 --> 00:46:51,810
like

1006
00:46:51,812 --> 00:46:53,814
the rest of the employees

1007
00:46:53,814 --> 00:46:54,815
. It should not be on the taxpayers

1008
00:46:54,815 --> 00:46:56,815
if the

1009
00:46:57,818 --> 00:47:00,787
city manager stays one day after the year

1010
00:47:00,787 --> 00:47:03,187
that they get those

1011
00:47:03,790 --> 00:47:05,792
vacation days. I know

1012
00:47:05,792 --> 00:47:06,793
you enjoy traveling so I was trying

1013
00:47:06,793 --> 00:47:09,793
to work out a compromise

1014
00:47:09,796 --> 00:47:12,799
to be fair . If you want to take

1015
00:47:12,799 --> 00:47:13,800
them before if you have only earned

1016
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,800
five

1017
00:47:15,802 --> 00:47:16,803
vacation days because you like to

1018
00:47:16,803 --> 00:47:18,803
go

1019
00:47:18,805 --> 00:47:20,805
a lot

1020
00:47:20,807 --> 00:47:21,808
and you want to go on a 10 day vacation

1021
00:47:21,808 --> 00:47:23,808
that

1022
00:47:23,810 --> 00:47:24,811
is fine. If for some reason you leave

1023
00:47:24,811 --> 00:47:26,811
before

1024
00:47:26,813 --> 00:47:27,814
those extra five days are earned it

1025
00:47:27,814 --> 00:47:29,814
comes out of

1026
00:47:29,816 --> 00:47:30,817
your last paycheck or your parachute

1027
00:47:30,817 --> 00:47:32,817
that you have.

1028
00:47:33,820 --> 00:47:35,820
>> agree .

1029
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:39,190
>> good. I like that.

1030
00:47:42,796 --> 00:47:43,797
I am still not happy about

1031
00:47:43,797 --> 00:47:45,799
the race but I know without a doubt

1032
00:47:45,799 --> 00:47:47,801
I'm not getting it. At least now

1033
00:47:47,801 --> 00:47:48,802
he's going to earn his vacation days

1034
00:47:48,802 --> 00:47:51,805
and not worry about taking a

1035
00:47:51,805 --> 00:47:53,805
$30,000 bath because the

1036
00:47:53,807 --> 00:47:54,808
previous city manager stayed two days

1037
00:47:54,808 --> 00:47:56,808
after his

1038
00:47:57,811 --> 00:47:58,812
today.

1039
00:47:58,812 --> 00:48:00,812
>> commissioner smith,

1040
00:48:00,814 --> 00:48:03,817
do you have an offer down there .

1041
00:48:03,817 --> 00:48:05,817
>> I put 248,000. >>

1042
00:48:06,820 --> 00:48:08,820
anymore discussion?

1043
00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:11,790
call the vote.

1044
00:48:12,793 --> 00:48:14,793
>> commissioner smith.

1045
00:48:15,796 --> 00:48:16,797
commissioner mallozzi.

1046
00:48:16,797 --> 00:48:18,797
>> no. >>

1047
00:48:18,799 --> 00:48:21,199
commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder.

1048
00:48:21,802 --> 00:48:22,803
mayor curran.

1049
00:48:22,803 --> 00:48:24,803
>> no.

1050
00:48:24,805 --> 00:48:27,805
>> we will prepare an amendment.

1051
00:48:27,808 --> 00:48:29,808
>> in reference to

1052
00:48:30,811 --> 00:48:31,812
him burning his vacation days.

1053
00:48:31,812 --> 00:48:33,812
>>

1054
00:48:33,814 --> 00:48:34,815
if the manager has any objection.

1055
00:48:34,815 --> 00:48:36,815
if you

1056
00:48:36,817 --> 00:48:39,820
want to do it through hr that is fine.

1057
00:48:39,820 --> 00:48:41,820
>> said

1058
00:48:42,789 --> 00:48:44,789
done.

1059
00:48:51,798 --> 00:48:54,798
>> just trying to stick it

1060
00:48:54,801 --> 00:48:55,802
to her a little bit.

1061
00:48:55,802 --> 00:48:57,802
>> thanks.

1062
00:48:57,804 --> 00:48:59,804
>> we will work

1063
00:49:01,808 --> 00:49:03,808
that out.

1064
00:49:04,811 --> 00:49:06,813
>> did you agree on the

1065
00:49:06,813 --> 00:49:10,817
vacation days? We will just put you

1066
00:49:10,817 --> 00:49:13,217
on the regular employees.

1067
00:49:15,789 --> 00:49:16,790
I can take it but if I leave before

1068
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:17,791
I have

1069
00:49:17,791 --> 00:49:19,793
come --completely earned the time

1070
00:49:19,793 --> 00:49:21,793
it comes out

1071
00:49:22,796 --> 00:49:23,797
of my final pay.

1072
00:49:23,797 --> 00:49:24,798
>> I know he

1073
00:49:24,798 --> 00:49:25,799
enjoys vacation so I don't want to

1074
00:49:25,799 --> 00:49:27,799
impede him

1075
00:49:28,802 --> 00:49:29,803
going away.

1076
00:49:29,803 --> 00:49:30,804
>> I know

1077
00:49:30,804 --> 00:49:31,805
what happened before was not right

1078
00:49:31,805 --> 00:49:32,806
and

1079
00:49:32,806 --> 00:49:34,808
I would not do that so I will agree

1080
00:49:34,808 --> 00:49:35,809
with you.

1081
00:49:35,809 --> 00:49:37,809
>> thank

1082
00:49:37,811 --> 00:49:38,812
you.

1083
00:49:38,812 --> 00:49:40,812
>> next item.

1084
00:49:40,814 --> 00:49:42,814
>> resolution 21

1085
00:49:43,817 --> 00:49:44,818
-- 45 authorizing

1086
00:49:44,818 --> 00:49:46,820
the execution of the first amendment

1087
00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:48,820
to the

1088
00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:51,792
agreement for the development of

1089
00:49:51,792 --> 00:49:52,793
strict for the maintenance of island

1090
00:49:52,793 --> 00:49:54,793
road

1091
00:49:54,795 --> 00:49:58,395
from stirling road shall -- south.

1092
00:50:00,801 --> 00:50:04,401
with the intended resolution provided for

1093
00:50:04,805 --> 00:50:05,806
an effective date.

1094
00:50:05,806 --> 00:50:07,806
>>

1095
00:50:07,808 --> 00:50:08,809
motion to approve.

1096
00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:10,809
>> second.

1097
00:50:10,811 --> 00:50:12,811
>> any discussion?

1098
00:50:13,814 --> 00:50:16,814
>> desperately needed. >> I just want

1099
00:50:16,817 --> 00:50:19,217
to say thank you.

1100
00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:22,820
>> great job. You are welcome.

1101
00:50:28,795 --> 00:50:30,795
>> I

1102
00:50:30,797 --> 00:50:34,997
think I got george fired for this.

1103
00:50:40,807 --> 00:50:42,807
>> anymore?

1104
00:50:43,810 --> 00:50:44,811
call the boat.

1105
00:50:44,811 --> 00:50:45,812
>> I

1106
00:50:45,812 --> 00:50:46,813
thought you were talking to each other.

1107
00:50:46,813 --> 00:50:47,814
>>

1108
00:50:47,814 --> 00:50:49,816
I was talking and you keep

1109
00:50:49,816 --> 00:50:50,817
interrupting me.

1110
00:50:50,817 --> 00:50:51,818
>> are you

1111
00:50:51,818 --> 00:50:55,418
the only one that gets interrupted

1112
00:50:55,789 --> 00:50:56,790
.

1113
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:57,791
>> that

1114
00:50:57,791 --> 00:50:58,792
is how it works. I just wanted to

1115
00:50:58,792 --> 00:50:59,793
say I want to

1116
00:50:59,793 --> 00:51:01,795
thank the staff and apparently commissioner

1117
00:51:01,795 --> 00:51:03,797
shrouder as well because this

1118
00:51:03,797 --> 00:51:04,798
is a complaint I get from residents

1119
00:51:04,798 --> 00:51:06,798
all

1120
00:51:07,801 --> 00:51:09,801
the time.

1121
00:51:12,806 --> 00:51:17,600
I thank you for getting this accomplished.

1122
00:51:19,813 --> 00:51:21,813
>> somebody call

1123
00:51:22,816 --> 00:51:24,816
al

1124
00:51:24,818 --> 00:51:25,819
and let him know it's done.

1125
00:51:25,819 --> 00:51:26,820
>> anybody

1126
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:28,789
else? Call

1127
00:51:28,789 --> 00:51:29,790
the boat.

1128
00:51:29,790 --> 00:51:31,790
>> commissioner smith.

1129
00:51:31,792 --> 00:51:34,192
commissioner mallozzi. Commissioner katzman.

1130
00:51:34,795 --> 00:51:36,795
commissioner shrouder.

1131
00:51:37,798 --> 00:51:39,798
mayor

1132
00:51:40,801 --> 00:51:42,801
curran.

1133
00:51:43,804 --> 00:51:44,805
>> next. Establishing that assessment

1134
00:51:44,805 --> 00:51:46,805
for

1135
00:51:46,807 --> 00:51:49,807
fire assessments in the city.

1136
00:51:52,813 --> 00:51:54,813
>> motion.

1137
00:51:58,819 --> 00:52:00,819
>> I have

1138
00:52:01,788 --> 00:52:03,790
a question again because we don't

1139
00:52:03,790 --> 00:52:07,794
know what's going to happen with bsl

1140
00:52:07,794 --> 00:52:09,796
what are we going to

1141
00:52:09,796 --> 00:52:10,797
deal with? This could potentially

1142
00:52:10,797 --> 00:52:12,797
be

1143
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,800
an issue.

1144
00:52:16,803 --> 00:52:18,803
>>

1145
00:52:19,806 --> 00:52:22,809
this is consideration for the letter provided.

1146
00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:24,809
>>

1147
00:52:25,812 --> 00:52:28,212
we will be okay?

1148
00:52:28,815 --> 00:52:33,150
>> we are just going to pay it.

1149
00:52:34,788 --> 00:52:37,788
>> if anything happens later on

1150
00:52:37,791 --> 00:52:39,791
.

1151
00:52:43,797 --> 00:52:45,797
>>

1152
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,800
I don't like being strangled

1153
00:52:49,803 --> 00:52:51,803
and say I'm

1154
00:52:52,806 --> 00:52:53,807
going to pay this.

1155
00:52:53,807 --> 00:52:54,808
>> I had a question about

1156
00:52:54,808 --> 00:52:58,812
the assessment. If we are being asked

1157
00:52:58,812 --> 00:53:01,815
for the 12% raises if we don't pay

1158
00:53:01,815 --> 00:53:04,215
the raises, how are

1159
00:53:04,818 --> 00:53:06,818
the residence made

1160
00:53:07,788 --> 00:53:10,788
whole pain this full assessment.

1161
00:53:10,791 --> 00:53:12,791
>>

1162
00:53:15,796 --> 00:53:19,396
my understanding, I could be wrong

1163
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,801
.

1164
00:53:20,801 --> 00:53:22,803
>> you would not be wrong then.

1165
00:53:22,803 --> 00:53:24,803
>> if

1166
00:53:25,806 --> 00:53:27,806
we go

1167
00:53:31,812 --> 00:53:33,812
,

1168
00:53:33,814 --> 00:53:34,815
in case armageddon happens and it

1169
00:53:34,815 --> 00:53:36,815
doesn't we can

1170
00:53:37,818 --> 00:53:39,818
lower it.

1171
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:46,790
I thought both we can.

1172
00:53:46,793 --> 00:53:48,793
>> the certified mail

1173
00:53:48,795 --> 00:53:49,796
notice requirements. There is legally

1174
00:53:49,796 --> 00:53:51,796
a way to

1175
00:53:52,799 --> 00:53:54,799
do it. With

1176
00:53:55,802 --> 00:53:57,802
the fire assessment ,

1177
00:53:58,805 --> 00:54:00,805
you are essentially

1178
00:54:01,808 --> 00:54:03,808
setting a ceiling.

1179
00:54:10,817 --> 00:54:12,817
>> anybody else?

1180
00:54:13,820 --> 00:54:14,788
call the vote.

1181
00:54:14,788 --> 00:54:16,788
>>

1182
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:18,790
commissioner smith.

1183
00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:20,792
[ inaudible -overlapping speakers ]

1184
00:54:22,796 --> 00:54:24,796
commissioner mallozzi.

1185
00:54:28,802 --> 00:54:30,802
>> you can't

1186
00:54:30,804 --> 00:54:31,805
vote on this.

1187
00:54:31,805 --> 00:54:32,806
>> yes we can. >> just

1188
00:54:32,806 --> 00:54:33,807
vote.

1189
00:54:33,807 --> 00:54:34,808
>> I did.

1190
00:54:34,808 --> 00:54:36,808
I said yes.

1191
00:54:37,811 --> 00:54:39,811
>> commissioner katzman. >> yes. >>

1192
00:54:40,814 --> 00:54:41,815
commissioner shrouder.

1193
00:54:41,815 --> 00:54:43,815
>> yes. >>

1194
00:54:43,817 --> 00:54:44,818
mayor curran.

1195
00:54:44,818 --> 00:54:46,818
>> yes. >>

1196
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:50,791
the resolution for the city commission

1197
00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:51,792
of the city of cooper city

1198
00:54:51,792 --> 00:54:53,794
adopting a millage rate of 5.845 for

1199
00:54:53,794 --> 00:54:55,794
the generator

1200
00:54:56,797 --> 00:54:58,797
operating budget services

1201
00:54:58,799 --> 00:55:01,799
providing for the establishment of

1202
00:55:02,803 --> 00:55:03,804
and the date and time

1203
00:55:03,804 --> 00:55:05,806
and location of public hearings for

1204
00:55:05,806 --> 00:55:08,206
the millage rate perp

1205
00:55:08,809 --> 00:55:09,810
complex, severability.

1206
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:11,810
>>

1207
00:55:11,812 --> 00:55:12,813
motion approved .

1208
00:55:12,813 --> 00:55:14,813
>>

1209
00:55:14,815 --> 00:55:16,815
second. Any discussion?

1210
00:55:20,821 --> 00:55:22,789
>> I do not want to do this

1211
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:23,790
lightly. I think we need to make it

1212
00:55:23,790 --> 00:55:24,791
clear

1213
00:55:24,791 --> 00:55:26,793
this would be setting the right lower

1214
00:55:26,793 --> 00:55:28,793
than the

1215
00:55:29,796 --> 00:55:30,797
current rate .

1216
00:55:30,797 --> 00:55:32,797
>> yes.

1217
00:55:34,801 --> 00:55:35,802
>> when I look at my county tax bill

1218
00:55:35,802 --> 00:55:37,802
they

1219
00:55:37,804 --> 00:55:38,805
claim they don't raise it because they

1220
00:55:38,805 --> 00:55:40,805
--

1221
00:55:40,807 --> 00:55:44,811
but they do because the millage is decreasing

1222
00:55:44,811 --> 00:55:46,813
and they are increasing

1223
00:55:46,813 --> 00:55:47,814
proportionally. This is like the fifth

1224
00:55:47,814 --> 00:55:49,814
year in

1225
00:55:50,817 --> 00:55:53,820
a row they would be lowering the millage

1226
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:54,788
rate.

1227
00:55:54,788 --> 00:55:55,789
>> the question I have is

1228
00:55:55,789 --> 00:55:59,389
isn't this four dollars a household?

1229
00:55:59,793 --> 00:56:01,793
like $3.93 per household.

1230
00:56:05,799 --> 00:56:07,799
is this

1231
00:56:11,805 --> 00:56:12,806
$40,000?

1232
00:56:12,806 --> 00:56:14,806
>> it is

1233
00:56:14,808 --> 00:56:15,809
a message.

1234
00:56:15,809 --> 00:56:17,811
>> with everything going up

1235
00:56:17,811 --> 00:56:20,811
we are still finding a

1236
00:56:20,814 --> 00:56:23,814
way to lower the rate.

1237
00:56:23,817 --> 00:56:25,817
>>

1238
00:56:25,819 --> 00:56:26,820
what I am saying is there is a lot

1239
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:28,789
of cost.

1240
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:31,789
the residents deserve and require

1241
00:56:34,795 --> 00:56:35,796
resources. This does not happen on

1242
00:56:35,796 --> 00:56:37,796
a little

1243
00:56:37,798 --> 00:56:41,802
twist of the nose. At my household $3.93,

1244
00:56:41,802 --> 00:56:43,802
thank you.

1245
00:56:44,805 --> 00:56:46,805
>>

1246
00:56:46,807 --> 00:56:47,808
when you run for office you can say

1247
00:56:47,808 --> 00:56:48,809
you

1248
00:56:48,809 --> 00:56:49,810
lower taxes year after year.

1249
00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:50,811
>> I

1250
00:56:50,811 --> 00:56:52,811
know that

1251
00:56:52,813 --> 00:56:56,413
prior electives have done that. At

1252
00:56:56,817 --> 00:56:58,817
this point, I

1253
00:56:58,819 --> 00:56:59,820
think we are looking at a lot of things.

1254
00:56:59,820 --> 00:57:01,788
you said we

1255
00:57:01,788 --> 00:57:04,791
have to take this serious. Are we

1256
00:57:04,791 --> 00:57:05,792
legislatively bound to some type of

1257
00:57:05,792 --> 00:57:06,793
income that is maybe

1258
00:57:06,793 --> 00:57:08,795
no longer coming through commercial

1259
00:57:08,795 --> 00:57:10,795
real estate taxing.

1260
00:57:11,798 --> 00:57:13,800
should we be looking at that

1261
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,801
because how much will that take away

1262
00:57:14,801 --> 00:57:16,801
from

1263
00:57:17,804 --> 00:57:19,804
the city income?

1264
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:24,811
>>

1265
00:57:24,811 --> 00:57:26,813
at this point the commercial real

1266
00:57:26,813 --> 00:57:28,813
estate impact is

1267
00:57:29,816 --> 00:57:32,216
not specific to us.

1268
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:36,790
>> these are the things I think we

1269
00:57:36,790 --> 00:57:38,792
should have a very significant talk.

1270
00:57:38,792 --> 00:57:41,192
I know it's only 40,000.

1271
00:57:44,798 --> 00:57:45,799
>> I

1272
00:57:45,799 --> 00:57:47,801
will pretend I'm the county commission.

1273
00:57:47,801 --> 00:57:49,801
we increase

1274
00:57:50,804 --> 00:57:52,804
the fire assessment

1275
00:57:53,807 --> 00:57:55,807
which overall

1276
00:57:56,810 --> 00:57:59,810
is a more direct billing.

1277
00:57:59,813 --> 00:58:02,213
we would receive more

1278
00:58:02,816 --> 00:58:05,816
money overall . We are still

1279
00:58:07,821 --> 00:58:11,421
receiving more money than last year.

1280
00:58:11,792 --> 00:58:13,792
>> my position

1281
00:58:14,795 --> 00:58:17,795
with the if anything I

1282
00:58:17,798 --> 00:58:19,798
would freeze. We

1283
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,804
did not increase or decrease but everyone sees

1284
00:58:23,804 --> 00:58:24,805
things are just free out there. If

1285
00:58:24,805 --> 00:58:26,805
you

1286
00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:28,807
feel that the

1287
00:58:29,810 --> 00:58:31,810
wiggle to the

1288
00:58:32,813 --> 00:58:34,813
other side

1289
00:58:35,816 --> 00:58:38,819
to that 40,000 overall. I get it.

1290
00:58:38,819 --> 00:58:39,820
no matter how you look at it you are

1291
00:58:39,820 --> 00:58:41,788
cutting the

1292
00:58:41,788 --> 00:58:42,789
tax.

1293
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:44,789
>> the rollback

1294
00:58:44,791 --> 00:58:46,791
is more.

1295
00:58:46,793 --> 00:58:47,794
if we went to rollback it would be

1296
00:58:47,794 --> 00:58:49,794
--

1297
00:58:50,797 --> 00:58:52,797
>> it 8.7 million.

1298
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,800
>> okay.

1299
00:58:59,806 --> 00:59:01,806
>>

1300
00:59:05,812 --> 00:59:06,813
even though it is negligible it does

1301
00:59:06,813 --> 00:59:07,814
show

1302
00:59:07,814 --> 00:59:08,815
that we are being fiscally responsible.

1303
00:59:08,815 --> 00:59:11,818
every time we approve the contract

1304
00:59:11,818 --> 00:59:12,819
.

1305
00:59:12,819 --> 00:59:14,819
>> absolutely it does.

1306
00:59:17,791 --> 00:59:19,791
>> we just showed

1307
00:59:20,794 --> 00:59:23,797
in the contract it was a 10% increase

1308
00:59:23,797 --> 00:59:24,798
.

1309
00:59:24,798 --> 00:59:26,798
>> when they get

1310
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,800
the notices

1311
00:59:29,803 --> 00:59:32,803
, we actually lowered the rate.

1312
00:59:38,812 --> 00:59:41,212
it is creeping up

1313
00:59:41,815 --> 00:59:43,815
a little bit.

1314
00:59:44,818 --> 00:59:46,818
>>

1315
00:59:46,820 --> 00:59:50,791
I want to make certain. The status quo

1316
00:59:50,791 --> 00:59:52,791
,

1317
00:59:52,793 --> 00:59:56,993
I just wanted to have that discussion.

1318
01:00:05,806 --> 01:00:06,807
>> commissioner smith. >>

1319
01:00:06,807 --> 01:00:07,808
yes.

1320
01:00:07,808 --> 01:00:08,809
>> commissioner mallozzi. >>

1321
01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:09,810
yes.

1322
01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:10,811
>> commissioner katzman. >> yes.

1323
01:00:10,811 --> 01:00:11,812
>> commissioner

1324
01:00:11,812 --> 01:00:12,813
shrouder.

1325
01:00:12,813 --> 01:00:13,814
>> yes. >> mayor curran.

1326
01:00:13,814 --> 01:00:14,815
>> yes.

1327
01:00:14,815 --> 01:00:16,815
>> next rector actively

1328
01:00:16,817 --> 01:00:19,817
authorizing the expenditure to concrete

1329
01:00:20,821 --> 01:00:23,790
works inc. For the provision

1330
01:00:23,790 --> 01:00:26,793
of water , sewer and drainage repairs

1331
01:00:26,793 --> 01:00:29,193
taking all action necessary

1332
01:00:29,796 --> 01:00:32,796
with the conflict and severability

1333
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:33,800
and effective date.

1334
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,800
>> motion

1335
01:00:35,802 --> 01:00:36,803
to approve.

1336
01:00:36,803 --> 01:00:38,803
>> second?

1337
01:00:38,805 --> 01:00:40,805
>> any comments?

1338
01:00:41,808 --> 01:00:44,811
>> I have one if you don't mind.

1339
01:00:44,811 --> 01:00:47,814
as a matter of public policy

1340
01:00:47,814 --> 01:00:49,814
I have to

1341
01:00:50,817 --> 01:00:53,217
make you justify a

1342
01:00:54,821 --> 01:00:56,790
retroactive approval .

1343
01:00:56,790 --> 01:00:57,791
just let me know who is at fault and

1344
01:00:57,791 --> 01:00:59,791
we will move

1345
01:01:00,794 --> 01:01:01,795
on.

1346
01:01:01,795 --> 01:01:03,795
>> let me explain.

1347
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,800
this generally involves

1348
01:01:09,803 --> 01:01:10,804
asphalt repairs.

1349
01:01:10,804 --> 01:01:12,806
we budgeted $85,000. What happened

1350
01:01:12,806 --> 01:01:13,807
was the budget and

1351
01:01:13,807 --> 01:01:15,809
purchase order were two different

1352
01:01:15,809 --> 01:01:17,809
dollar amounts.

1353
01:01:18,812 --> 01:01:21,212
the purchase order was

1354
01:01:21,815 --> 01:01:23,815
$19,000 .

1355
01:01:24,818 --> 01:01:27,218
we were under the

1356
01:01:29,790 --> 01:01:31,792
impression the purchase order was

1357
01:01:31,792 --> 01:01:33,794
85,000. To give the good service to residents

1358
01:01:33,794 --> 01:01:35,794
and restoring the

1359
01:01:35,796 --> 01:01:36,797
areas that need to be restored, I

1360
01:01:36,797 --> 01:01:38,797
realized

1361
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:41,802
that we have a different po, I stop

1362
01:01:41,802 --> 01:01:46,200
the job and basically we stopped everything.

1363
01:01:46,807 --> 01:01:48,809
I do apologize about that but I did

1364
01:01:48,809 --> 01:01:49,810
not realize about the

1365
01:01:49,810 --> 01:01:51,812
purchase order or budget. We will

1366
01:01:51,812 --> 01:01:53,814
pay attention a little bit more.

1367
01:01:53,814 --> 01:01:57,818
>> I think you are an awesome leader.

1368
01:01:57,818 --> 01:01:59,818
I would just

1369
01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:02,789
ask that there be a reminder to the person

1370
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:05,792
who had the oversight of the policy

1371
01:02:05,792 --> 01:02:06,793
. Essentially we would have done this

1372
01:02:06,793 --> 01:02:08,793
anyway but

1373
01:02:09,796 --> 01:02:12,799
it just lets us know about the crack

1374
01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:16,399
in the system. Just a refresher

1375
01:02:18,805 --> 01:02:19,806
.

1376
01:02:19,806 --> 01:02:20,807
>> absolutely.

1377
01:02:20,807 --> 01:02:21,808
I am the utilities director and city engineer

1378
01:02:21,808 --> 01:02:23,808
. I

1379
01:02:24,811 --> 01:02:27,211
am basically the one.

1380
01:02:27,814 --> 01:02:29,814
what

1381
01:02:30,817 --> 01:02:31,818
happens is we are going to train

1382
01:02:31,818 --> 01:02:33,820
our employees because in the past

1383
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:36,820
when I realized they could

1384
01:02:37,791 --> 01:02:39,793
enroll in the purchase orders and

1385
01:02:39,793 --> 01:02:41,793
the budget

1386
01:02:41,795 --> 01:02:42,796
. They are paying attention a little

1387
01:02:42,796 --> 01:02:44,796
bit more.

1388
01:02:45,799 --> 01:02:47,799
>> any more questions?

1389
01:02:47,801 --> 01:02:50,201
>> commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

1390
01:02:51,805 --> 01:02:54,205
commissioner katzman, commissioner shrouder.

1391
01:02:54,808 --> 01:02:56,808
mayor curran.

1392
01:02:57,811 --> 01:02:59,811
>> coordinates for

1393
01:03:00,814 --> 01:03:03,214
first reading. 25-09 ordinance

1394
01:03:03,817 --> 01:03:05,817
at cooper city

1395
01:03:05,819 --> 01:03:08,819
. The good ordinance amending chapter 7

1396
01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:10,791
article 4

1397
01:03:10,791 --> 01:03:12,793
entitled fire assessments. Specifically

1398
01:03:12,793 --> 01:03:14,793
section 7-22

1399
01:03:15,796 --> 01:03:18,796
to amend the definition of

1400
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:19,800
tax collector.

1401
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,800
>> motion?

1402
01:03:24,805 --> 01:03:26,805
second.

1403
01:03:26,807 --> 01:03:30,407
I will second it . Any questions?

1404
01:03:30,811 --> 01:03:32,811
>> just,

1405
01:03:35,816 --> 01:03:36,817
this is just procedural.

1406
01:03:36,817 --> 01:03:38,817
>> there is

1407
01:03:41,788 --> 01:03:42,789
a companion item. There's a recent

1408
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:44,791
amendment to the florida constitution.

1409
01:03:44,791 --> 01:03:45,792
over the years broward county has

1410
01:03:45,792 --> 01:03:46,793
acted as the

1411
01:03:46,793 --> 01:03:48,795
tax collector for assessments. Under

1412
01:03:48,795 --> 01:03:50,795
a recent

1413
01:03:50,797 --> 01:03:54,801
change to state law the county has

1414
01:03:54,801 --> 01:03:57,804
its first actual tax collector constitutional

1415
01:03:57,804 --> 01:03:58,805
office. This aligns the code with

1416
01:03:58,805 --> 01:03:59,806
that

1417
01:03:59,806 --> 01:04:00,807
new process, changes the tax collector

1418
01:04:00,807 --> 01:04:02,807
to

1419
01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:06,810
align with that as opposed

1420
01:04:06,813 --> 01:04:09,816
to the county. There is a second item

1421
01:04:09,816 --> 01:04:11,818
which provides for an agreement

1422
01:04:11,818 --> 01:04:12,819
between the city and the new tax collector

1423
01:04:12,819 --> 01:04:14,819
office to implement

1424
01:04:14,821 --> 01:04:15,789
the collection of the fire assessment.

1425
01:04:15,789 --> 01:04:17,789
I would also

1426
01:04:17,791 --> 01:04:18,792
ask for a separate motion to approve

1427
01:04:18,792 --> 01:04:20,792
that agreement

1428
01:04:21,795 --> 01:04:24,795
to provide for the fire

1429
01:04:24,798 --> 01:04:25,799
assessment collection.

1430
01:04:25,799 --> 01:04:27,799
>> call the vote.

1431
01:04:30,804 --> 01:04:32,804
>> so

1432
01:04:33,807 --> 01:04:36,807
we will get an audit,

1433
01:04:36,810 --> 01:04:39,210
an accounting of the

1434
01:04:39,813 --> 01:04:42,816
tax collectors use of this? It seems like

1435
01:04:42,816 --> 01:04:44,816
and overbilling.

1436
01:04:45,819 --> 01:04:47,819
>> can

1437
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:51,789
we follow up on that?

1438
01:04:51,792 --> 01:04:54,792
>> that is not the first? >>

1439
01:04:54,795 --> 01:04:56,795
the first

1440
01:04:57,798 --> 01:05:00,801
motion cleans up the code. The second

1441
01:05:00,801 --> 01:05:03,201
asks for the agreement.

1442
01:05:03,804 --> 01:05:05,804
>>

1443
01:05:05,806 --> 01:05:08,206
commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

1444
01:05:08,809 --> 01:05:09,810
commissioner katzman. Commissioner

1445
01:05:09,810 --> 01:05:11,810
shrouder.

1446
01:05:12,813 --> 01:05:14,813
mayor curran.

1447
01:05:18,819 --> 01:05:19,820
>> motion for the

1448
01:05:19,820 --> 01:05:21,788
agreement with the tax collector.

1449
01:05:21,788 --> 01:05:23,788
>> second. Any discussion?

1450
01:05:24,791 --> 01:05:25,792
>> further to these notes, the other

1451
01:05:25,792 --> 01:05:27,792
question I

1452
01:05:27,794 --> 01:05:29,794
was wondering is,

1453
01:05:30,797 --> 01:05:33,197
is there a requirement

1454
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,800
for this statute

1455
01:05:36,803 --> 01:05:39,806
allowing a tax collector to take

1456
01:05:39,806 --> 01:05:40,807
the budget to 2% what she collects

1457
01:05:40,807 --> 01:05:42,807
for

1458
01:05:42,809 --> 01:05:43,810
the county commission . That would

1459
01:05:43,810 --> 01:05:45,810
be a

1460
01:05:45,812 --> 01:05:48,815
net increase of 70 million more. The

1461
01:05:48,815 --> 01:05:51,215
question I had is,

1462
01:05:51,818 --> 01:05:53,818
is that also

1463
01:05:54,821 --> 01:05:56,821
our 2%.

1464
01:06:00,794 --> 01:06:02,794
>> you

1465
01:06:03,797 --> 01:06:06,800
know that the statute allows him

1466
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,800
to charge .

1467
01:06:15,809 --> 01:06:18,812
>> there may not need to be an agreement.

1468
01:06:18,812 --> 01:06:21,212
>> we could lose up

1469
01:06:21,815 --> 01:06:23,815
to 2%.

1470
01:06:24,818 --> 01:06:26,818
>> I understand what

1471
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:27,821
you are saying. I'm not aware of the

1472
01:06:27,821 --> 01:06:29,821
need to have

1473
01:06:30,791 --> 01:06:31,792
any discussion.

1474
01:06:31,792 --> 01:06:33,792
>> on this we

1475
01:06:33,794 --> 01:06:36,194
can lose up to 2%.

1476
01:06:36,797 --> 01:06:38,799
we may not have to

1477
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:39,800
sign the agreement. The county commission

1478
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,803
told me they talked to the

1479
01:06:42,803 --> 01:06:44,803
tax collector.

1480
01:06:45,806 --> 01:06:47,806
they use

1481
01:06:47,808 --> 01:06:51,408
the cost of 12 million to operate.

1482
01:06:51,812 --> 01:06:53,812
70 million more it

1483
01:06:54,815 --> 01:06:56,817
will cost the county because

1484
01:06:56,817 --> 01:07:00,821
they have the county to pay on there's

1485
01:07:00,821 --> 01:07:02,789
I just want

1486
01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:03,790
to be sure the department double checks

1487
01:07:03,790 --> 01:07:05,790
that statute.

1488
01:07:09,796 --> 01:07:13,996
>> imagine every city having to do that.

1489
01:07:14,801 --> 01:07:15,802
>> this is when we are talking about

1490
01:07:15,802 --> 01:07:17,802
cutting taxes

1491
01:07:18,805 --> 01:07:22,809
. We have to look at the big pictures

1492
01:07:22,809 --> 01:07:24,809
surrounding us.

1493
01:07:25,812 --> 01:07:26,813
>> I

1494
01:07:26,813 --> 01:07:31,613
am yes on this agreement. We should confirm,

1495
01:07:31,818 --> 01:07:34,818
if it gets too costly

1496
01:07:34,821 --> 01:07:36,821
--

1497
01:07:43,797 --> 01:07:46,797
>> that is what it will

1498
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,800
cost us. Call the question.

1499
01:07:49,803 --> 01:07:50,804
>>

1500
01:07:50,804 --> 01:07:53,204
commissioner smith . Commissioner mallozzi.

1501
01:07:55,809 --> 01:07:57,809
commissioner katzman.

1502
01:07:59,813 --> 01:08:01,815
commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

1503
01:08:01,815 --> 01:08:04,215
>> item 36. First reading of

1504
01:08:04,818 --> 01:08:07,821
the ordinance city code of ordinance

1505
01:08:07,821 --> 01:08:10,221
for article 2 entitled signs.

1506
01:08:10,791 --> 01:08:12,791
temporary signs

1507
01:08:12,793 --> 01:08:13,794
authorizing certain temporary signs

1508
01:08:13,794 --> 01:08:15,794
for sponsors

1509
01:08:16,797 --> 01:08:19,197
of the club establishing

1510
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,802
the sponsorship sign program for restrictions

1511
01:08:21,802 --> 01:08:25,402
and regulations of proved temporary signs

1512
01:08:27,808 --> 01:08:28,809
for severability and effective date.

1513
01:08:28,809 --> 01:08:30,809
>> motion. >> second.

1514
01:08:31,812 --> 01:08:33,812
>> any discussion.

1515
01:08:37,818 --> 01:08:39,820
>> are you good? >> commissioner.

1516
01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:40,821
>> thank you. Just pointing out .

1517
01:08:40,821 --> 01:08:42,821
there

1518
01:08:43,790 --> 01:08:45,790
is an

1519
01:08:45,792 --> 01:08:50,797
item in there. I think this is the one

1520
01:08:50,797 --> 01:08:52,799
. Basically my understanding of this

1521
01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:54,799
is that they

1522
01:08:55,802 --> 01:08:57,804
can only, the banners can only

1523
01:08:57,804 --> 01:08:58,805
be in the color that the organization

1524
01:08:58,805 --> 01:09:00,805
uses or

1525
01:09:01,808 --> 01:09:02,809
decides to use?

1526
01:09:02,809 --> 01:09:04,809
>>

1527
01:09:04,811 --> 01:09:06,811
the plan

1528
01:09:07,814 --> 01:09:10,214
is what color schemes

1529
01:09:10,817 --> 01:09:12,817
are approved

1530
01:09:12,819 --> 01:09:13,820
and then execute that.

1531
01:09:13,820 --> 01:09:14,821
>> my only

1532
01:09:14,821 --> 01:09:15,789
thought on

1533
01:09:15,789 --> 01:09:16,790
that is particularly looking at it

1534
01:09:16,790 --> 01:09:17,791
with

1535
01:09:17,791 --> 01:09:19,793
the optimists, noting how the schools

1536
01:09:19,793 --> 01:09:21,793
do it, most

1537
01:09:22,796 --> 01:09:23,797
of the

1538
01:09:23,797 --> 01:09:25,799
organizations are people who sponsor

1539
01:09:25,799 --> 01:09:28,199
these kinds of things

1540
01:09:28,802 --> 01:09:29,803
don't have the

1541
01:09:29,803 --> 01:09:31,805
ability to create multiple ads in

1542
01:09:31,805 --> 01:09:33,807
different color schemes. If we are

1543
01:09:33,807 --> 01:09:34,808
going to approve it we have to approve

1544
01:09:34,808 --> 01:09:37,208
it based on whatever

1545
01:09:37,811 --> 01:09:39,811
measurement guideline

1546
01:09:40,814 --> 01:09:42,814
you would assume

1547
01:09:43,817 --> 01:09:46,217
that if the business

1548
01:09:46,820 --> 01:09:49,790
colors are red, white, and blue

1549
01:09:49,790 --> 01:09:51,792
they will do a red, white,

1550
01:09:51,792 --> 01:09:55,796
blue add. I just want to be clear

1551
01:09:55,796 --> 01:09:58,796
of my intent supporting this.

1552
01:09:58,799 --> 01:10:01,799
we cannot limit color use

1553
01:10:01,802 --> 01:10:03,804
. Obviously we will limit

1554
01:10:03,804 --> 01:10:07,404
anything that is offensive or anything

1555
01:10:07,808 --> 01:10:08,809
like that.

1556
01:10:08,809 --> 01:10:10,809
>> to

1557
01:10:10,811 --> 01:10:12,811
clarify on that,

1558
01:10:13,814 --> 01:10:15,814
those unique colors

1559
01:10:15,816 --> 01:10:19,820
are if they are going to do a framework

1560
01:10:19,820 --> 01:10:21,820
porter. Cooper

1561
01:10:21,822 --> 01:10:22,789
city high school has the red and black

1562
01:10:22,789 --> 01:10:25,789
scroll around the signs to

1563
01:10:25,792 --> 01:10:28,795
give them a uniform look. That

1564
01:10:28,795 --> 01:10:31,798
is what that is written for.

1565
01:10:31,798 --> 01:10:32,799
if

1566
01:10:32,799 --> 01:10:33,800
it is jan's housecleaning services

1567
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,801
and her colors are completely different

1568
01:10:34,801 --> 01:10:36,801
that

1569
01:10:37,804 --> 01:10:39,806
is the interior part of the

1570
01:10:39,806 --> 01:10:40,807
sign.

1571
01:10:40,807 --> 01:10:43,207
>> I appreciate the clarification.

1572
01:10:45,812 --> 01:10:46,813
>> it will be business --business

1573
01:10:46,813 --> 01:10:48,813
as

1574
01:10:49,816 --> 01:10:51,816
usual. Whatever

1575
01:10:52,819 --> 01:10:53,820
the packages will be uniform.

1576
01:10:53,820 --> 01:10:55,789
>> correct.

1577
01:10:55,789 --> 01:10:58,792
they will come up with an exterior board

1578
01:10:58,792 --> 01:10:59,793
. The interior part would be up to

1579
01:10:59,793 --> 01:11:01,793
the

1580
01:11:01,795 --> 01:11:04,195
business or the logo .

1581
01:11:04,798 --> 01:11:06,798
>> really no changes.

1582
01:11:07,801 --> 01:11:10,801
we are just approving it

1583
01:11:12,806 --> 01:11:13,807
.

1584
01:11:13,807 --> 01:11:14,808
>> the banner had specific sizes

1585
01:11:14,808 --> 01:11:16,808
and locations.

1586
01:11:19,813 --> 01:11:21,813
>> anymore discussion

1587
01:11:22,816 --> 01:11:24,818
on that. Call the

1588
01:11:24,818 --> 01:11:25,819
vote.

1589
01:11:25,819 --> 01:11:26,820
>> commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

1590
01:11:26,820 --> 01:11:28,820
commissioner katzman

1591
01:11:30,791 --> 01:11:31,792
commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

1592
01:11:31,792 --> 01:11:33,792
>> yes. >>

1593
01:11:34,795 --> 01:11:36,795
item 37 ,

1594
01:11:37,798 --> 01:11:39,800
chapter 23 of the city

1595
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,800
code of ordinance amending article 5

1596
01:11:43,804 --> 01:11:45,804
, section 23

1597
01:11:46,807 --> 01:11:48,807
,

1598
01:11:49,810 --> 01:11:52,810
eight foot maximum hedge height

1599
01:11:52,813 --> 01:11:54,813
for severability and

1600
01:11:55,816 --> 01:11:56,817
effective date.

1601
01:11:56,817 --> 01:11:58,817
>> motion

1602
01:11:58,819 --> 01:12:00,819
.

1603
01:12:01,822 --> 01:12:04,791
>> second. Any discussion. Call the vote.

1604
01:12:04,791 --> 01:12:06,791
>> commissioner smith

1605
01:12:07,794 --> 01:12:10,194
, commissioner mallozzi. Commissioner katzman

1606
01:12:10,797 --> 01:12:12,797
, mayor shrouder

1607
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,200
--commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

1608
01:12:16,803 --> 01:12:18,803
>> yes. >> 38.

1609
01:12:19,806 --> 01:12:21,806
45-12 and ordinance

1610
01:12:22,809 --> 01:12:25,812
for the city of florida development standards

1611
01:12:25,812 --> 01:12:27,812
amending article 2

1612
01:12:28,815 --> 01:12:30,815
. Section 25-23.

1613
01:12:34,821 --> 01:12:37,821
construction, maintenance and location requirements.

1614
01:12:40,794 --> 01:12:43,194
providing for conflicts, severability,

1615
01:12:43,797 --> 01:12:45,797
effective date.

1616
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,800
>> motion. >> second. >>

1617
01:12:49,803 --> 01:12:50,804
any discussion?

1618
01:12:50,804 --> 01:12:52,804
>> I do. >>

1619
01:12:52,806 --> 01:12:55,809
I just want to say we tried

1620
01:12:55,809 --> 01:12:57,811
doing something like this

1621
01:12:57,811 --> 01:12:58,812
several years ago. It did not come

1622
01:12:58,812 --> 01:13:00,812
to fruition.

1623
01:13:01,815 --> 01:13:03,817
right before this was shown

1624
01:13:03,817 --> 01:13:05,819
to be on the agenda I received a call

1625
01:13:05,819 --> 01:13:06,820
from a

1626
01:13:06,820 --> 01:13:10,420
business in a shopping center saying,

1627
01:13:10,791 --> 01:13:13,794
what can we do to get assigned so

1628
01:13:13,794 --> 01:13:17,798
people passing by kancey we are in here.

1629
01:13:17,798 --> 01:13:18,799
I said, it's funny

1630
01:13:18,799 --> 01:13:20,801
you should say that. It's actually

1631
01:13:20,801 --> 01:13:23,201
coming on the agenda.

1632
01:13:23,804 --> 01:13:24,805
she was going to tell all

1633
01:13:24,805 --> 01:13:25,806
the other businesses because they

1634
01:13:25,806 --> 01:13:29,810
made her the person to call me. I

1635
01:13:29,810 --> 01:13:32,810
know that businesses want this

1636
01:13:34,815 --> 01:13:35,816
and a lot of them need this, especially the

1637
01:13:35,816 --> 01:13:38,216
small ones because you

1638
01:13:38,819 --> 01:13:41,819
are driving by not knowing.

1639
01:13:41,822 --> 01:13:43,790
depending on the monument

1640
01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:44,791
and everything else, everybody has

1641
01:13:44,791 --> 01:13:46,791
a

1642
01:13:47,794 --> 01:13:50,794
better shot. If you can

1643
01:13:50,797 --> 01:13:53,797
get this into one business

1644
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,803
you will get them in there.

1645
01:13:56,803 --> 01:13:58,803
>> called the vote?

1646
01:14:01,808 --> 01:14:05,812
>> I just want to say I support this,

1647
01:14:05,812 --> 01:14:07,814
but I would prefer and

1648
01:14:07,814 --> 01:14:11,818
the examples the version that is on

1649
01:14:11,818 --> 01:14:14,818
page 2 for a cleaner look

1650
01:14:14,821 --> 01:14:16,790
. These are

1651
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:19,790
professional businesses that can pick

1652
01:14:20,794 --> 01:14:22,794
their colors.

1653
01:14:23,797 --> 01:14:25,797
this is basically

1654
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,800
white

1655
01:14:29,803 --> 01:14:32,803
on black, white on gray.

1656
01:14:35,809 --> 01:14:38,209
>> they could still have

1657
01:14:38,812 --> 01:14:41,815
their design for a uniform and

1658
01:14:41,815 --> 01:14:43,815
color scheme .

1659
01:14:44,818 --> 01:14:47,218
>> nobody has them now.

1660
01:14:47,821 --> 01:14:50,221
>> there was one approved

1661
01:14:50,791 --> 01:14:52,791
just for the

1662
01:14:53,794 --> 01:14:54,795
test.

1663
01:14:54,795 --> 01:14:56,795
>> the center has

1664
01:14:56,797 --> 01:14:59,800
round signs to the name of

1665
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:00,801
the center

1666
01:15:00,801 --> 01:15:03,201
, not individual tenant families.

1667
01:15:05,806 --> 01:15:07,806
>> do you understand

1668
01:15:07,808 --> 01:15:11,408
what the commissioner is asking for.

1669
01:15:11,812 --> 01:15:14,812
>> using the tenant panels to

1670
01:15:14,815 --> 01:15:16,817
be a matching background color

1671
01:15:16,817 --> 01:15:20,821
. They would still be able to have

1672
01:15:20,821 --> 01:15:23,790
the trademark font and design

1673
01:15:23,790 --> 01:15:25,790
but no color.

1674
01:15:26,793 --> 01:15:30,993
let's say I wanted to do baskin-robbins

1675
01:15:31,798 --> 01:15:32,799
if it said white lettering only I could

1676
01:15:32,799 --> 01:15:34,799
not have peeing,

1677
01:15:35,802 --> 01:15:37,802
purple, and blue.

1678
01:15:41,808 --> 01:15:44,208
>> I think we are

1679
01:15:44,811 --> 01:15:46,811
in agreement.

1680
01:15:47,814 --> 01:15:50,814
>> I just wanted to thank

1681
01:15:50,817 --> 01:15:52,817
community development

1682
01:15:52,819 --> 01:15:53,820
. The residents that are speaking

1683
01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:55,789
on behalf

1684
01:15:55,789 --> 01:15:56,790
of businesses. Great job to the commission

1685
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:58,790
to

1686
01:15:59,793 --> 01:16:01,795
look forward with the businesses

1687
01:16:01,795 --> 01:16:05,799
in the community to help them out.

1688
01:16:05,799 --> 01:16:06,800
I know this is a big deal so full

1689
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,800
support.

1690
01:16:08,802 --> 01:16:10,802
thank you.

1691
01:16:11,805 --> 01:16:13,805
>>

1692
01:16:13,807 --> 01:16:16,207
commissioner smith, commissioner mallozzi,

1693
01:16:16,810 --> 01:16:19,210
commissioner katzman, commissioner shrouder,

1694
01:16:20,814 --> 01:16:21,815
mayor curran.

1695
01:16:21,815 --> 01:16:23,815
>>

1696
01:16:23,817 --> 01:16:24,818
yes.

1697
01:16:24,818 --> 01:16:26,818
>>

1698
01:16:26,820 --> 01:16:29,220
article 9 cost recovery amending

1699
01:16:32,793 --> 01:16:34,793
cost recovery

1700
01:16:35,796 --> 01:16:37,796
.

1701
01:16:38,799 --> 01:16:41,799
the site plan amendments to

1702
01:16:41,802 --> 01:16:43,802
include recent amendments

1703
01:16:43,804 --> 01:16:47,404
. Provided for severability and affect date.

1704
01:16:47,808 --> 01:16:49,808
>> motion. >> second.

1705
01:16:50,811 --> 01:16:52,811
discussion. Commissioner smith.

1706
01:16:52,813 --> 01:16:53,814
nothing.

1707
01:16:53,814 --> 01:16:55,814
>> commissioner shrouder.

1708
01:16:56,817 --> 01:16:59,217
>> anybody else. >> commissioner smith.

1709
01:16:59,820 --> 01:17:01,820
commissioner mallozzi.

1710
01:17:01,822 --> 01:17:04,222
commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder.

1711
01:17:05,792 --> 01:17:07,792
mayor curran.

1712
01:17:08,795 --> 01:17:10,795
>>

1713
01:17:11,798 --> 01:17:14,801
two reports. One just to let

1714
01:17:14,801 --> 01:17:17,804
you know we had a meeting

1715
01:17:17,804 --> 01:17:20,807
. The public works for the city

1716
01:17:20,807 --> 01:17:22,807
of pembroke

1717
01:17:22,809 --> 01:17:23,810
pines. They have been working for

1718
01:17:23,810 --> 01:17:26,810
a while with broward county

1719
01:17:26,813 --> 01:17:28,813
. The proposal

1720
01:17:29,816 --> 01:17:31,816
is that broward

1721
01:17:32,819 --> 01:17:35,219
county will take over

1722
01:17:35,822 --> 01:17:37,791
the maintenance

1723
01:17:37,791 --> 01:17:38,792
of sharing the street between pine

1724
01:17:38,792 --> 01:17:40,792
island and university.

1725
01:17:41,795 --> 01:17:44,798
with the quid pro quo they were

1726
01:17:44,798 --> 01:17:47,198
--pembroke pines will take

1727
01:17:47,801 --> 01:17:52,601
pine island because they want to have control

1728
01:17:52,806 --> 01:17:56,406
on the road. Our only responsibility

1729
01:17:56,810 --> 01:17:58,810
is a hedge

1730
01:17:58,812 --> 01:17:59,813
that is driving along the south side

1731
01:17:59,813 --> 01:18:01,813
of sheridan

1732
01:18:02,816 --> 01:18:04,816
at the boundary

1733
01:18:05,819 --> 01:18:08,819
. It meanders around the hedge.

1734
01:18:08,822 --> 01:18:11,792
the top of the hedge is

1735
01:18:11,792 --> 01:18:14,795
the city and the other half

1736
01:18:14,795 --> 01:18:17,195
is at pembroke pines.

1737
01:18:17,798 --> 01:18:18,799
we would take that responsibility

1738
01:18:18,799 --> 01:18:20,799
for

1739
01:18:20,801 --> 01:18:22,803
that edge pick it is in

1740
01:18:22,803 --> 01:18:23,804
really bad condition. They are coming

1741
01:18:23,804 --> 01:18:26,204
to the disagreement which

1742
01:18:26,807 --> 01:18:29,807
at this point is all

1743
01:18:29,810 --> 01:18:31,810
discussion only.

1744
01:18:35,816 --> 01:18:38,819
they will trim everything. They will

1745
01:18:38,819 --> 01:18:39,820
replace all of the material that has

1746
01:18:39,820 --> 01:18:41,820
died

1747
01:18:41,822 --> 01:18:45,792
or decayed . There will be a contract

1748
01:18:45,792 --> 01:18:48,192
which will be responsible

1749
01:18:48,795 --> 01:18:51,195
for maintaining the hedge

1750
01:18:51,798 --> 01:18:52,799
.

1751
01:18:52,799 --> 01:18:54,801
>> why do we want to?

1752
01:18:54,801 --> 01:18:57,801
>> what is the back story

1753
01:18:57,804 --> 01:18:59,804
on this?

1754
01:19:00,807 --> 01:19:02,807
>> first,

1755
01:19:02,809 --> 01:19:05,812
hines wants to make a deal with the county.

1756
01:19:05,812 --> 01:19:06,813
the county says we won't take it unless

1757
01:19:06,813 --> 01:19:08,813
you

1758
01:19:08,815 --> 01:19:11,818
take some of ours. That is in cooper city.

1759
01:19:11,818 --> 01:19:15,418
pines wanted it for their residence.

1760
01:19:15,822 --> 01:19:17,791
they were always

1761
01:19:17,791 --> 01:19:20,794
maintaining the hedge. Now with the mixup,

1762
01:19:20,794 --> 01:19:21,795
to make a deal we are now taking over

1763
01:19:21,795 --> 01:19:22,796
.

1764
01:19:22,796 --> 01:19:24,798
>> they are taking responsibility

1765
01:19:24,798 --> 01:19:26,798
for sharing

1766
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,800
that between pine and university.

1767
01:19:30,804 --> 01:19:33,204
>> who does it now?

1768
01:19:33,807 --> 01:19:35,809
>> right now it is ours.

1769
01:19:35,809 --> 01:19:36,810
>> this is on the same thing. What

1770
01:19:36,810 --> 01:19:38,810
does that take

1771
01:19:38,812 --> 01:19:39,813
over.

1772
01:19:39,813 --> 01:19:40,814
>> they will be taking over

1773
01:19:40,814 --> 01:19:42,814
any

1774
01:19:42,816 --> 01:19:44,816
maintenance responsibility

1775
01:19:45,819 --> 01:19:48,822
for the road in that section.

1776
01:19:48,822 --> 01:19:51,222
>> that is not making

1777
01:19:51,792 --> 01:19:53,792
sense to me.

1778
01:19:53,794 --> 01:19:54,795
I feel like they probably did not

1779
01:19:54,795 --> 01:19:57,795
give you the whole story

1780
01:19:57,798 --> 01:19:59,800
but I feel like it is a trick.

1781
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,804
at one point they were trying to get up

1782
01:20:03,804 --> 01:20:06,804
to give up that land

1783
01:20:06,807 --> 01:20:09,807
and re-annex it to him.

1784
01:20:09,810 --> 01:20:12,810
that does not make any

1785
01:20:12,813 --> 01:20:17,130
sense to me . Doesn't montero maintain it?

1786
01:20:24,791 --> 01:20:26,791
>> from university

1787
01:20:27,794 --> 01:20:29,794
to pine island

1788
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:34,801
. We are

1789
01:20:34,801 --> 01:20:37,801
not maintaining anything over there.

1790
01:20:39,806 --> 01:20:42,806
we don't maintain that road.

1791
01:20:42,809 --> 01:20:44,809
>> I

1792
01:20:45,812 --> 01:20:48,815
understand it is in cooper city.

1793
01:20:48,815 --> 01:20:51,815
>> I do not believe we

1794
01:20:51,818 --> 01:20:54,818
did anything. Did we do

1795
01:20:54,821 --> 01:20:56,821
anything on sheridan.

1796
01:21:00,794 --> 01:21:03,194
for two weeks we

1797
01:21:03,797 --> 01:21:05,797
drove past.

1798
01:21:05,799 --> 01:21:06,800
I think they maintain that. It all

1799
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,800
--

1800
01:21:09,803 --> 01:21:12,803
the whole thing looks horrible.

1801
01:21:12,806 --> 01:21:15,806
the county handles the road.

1802
01:21:18,812 --> 01:21:19,813
who does

1803
01:21:19,813 --> 01:21:21,815
sheridan between university and pine

1804
01:21:21,815 --> 01:21:22,816
island?

1805
01:21:22,816 --> 01:21:24,816
>> landscape

1806
01:21:24,818 --> 01:21:26,818
. Maintaining the road.

1807
01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:30,420
this is just the maintenance agreement.

1808
01:21:30,791 --> 01:21:32,791
>> commissioner shrouder.

1809
01:21:33,794 --> 01:21:36,194
one of the directors

1810
01:21:36,797 --> 01:21:38,797
, what will

1811
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:40,801
you say?

1812
01:21:40,801 --> 01:21:42,801
>> that

1813
01:21:42,803 --> 01:21:45,203
was the old agreement.

1814
01:21:45,806 --> 01:21:48,206
based on the formation

1815
01:21:48,809 --> 01:21:51,209
that we received from

1816
01:21:51,812 --> 01:21:54,815
the county, so the county can take

1817
01:21:54,815 --> 01:21:57,818
over that roadway to give you that

1818
01:21:57,818 --> 01:21:59,818
roadway back.

1819
01:22:00,821 --> 01:22:03,221
>> this is exactly how

1820
01:22:03,790 --> 01:22:06,190
we got sterling roadway.

1821
01:22:08,795 --> 01:22:09,796
>> this requires commission approval.

1822
01:22:09,796 --> 01:22:11,796
>> can

1823
01:22:12,799 --> 01:22:15,199
we get more background.

1824
01:22:19,806 --> 01:22:21,808
although they have been maintaining

1825
01:22:21,808 --> 01:22:22,809
it.

1826
01:22:22,809 --> 01:22:24,809
>> they are

1827
01:22:24,811 --> 01:22:26,811
saying that

1828
01:22:27,814 --> 01:22:28,815
.

1829
01:22:28,815 --> 01:22:30,815
>> they've been

1830
01:22:30,817 --> 01:22:32,817
maintaining forever.

1831
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:38,790
>> there

1832
01:22:38,792 --> 01:22:39,793
was a bike lane that went in. There

1833
01:22:39,793 --> 01:22:41,793
were some

1834
01:22:42,796 --> 01:22:44,796
areas were dedicated

1835
01:22:51,805 --> 01:22:53,805
for multiple segments

1836
01:22:54,808 --> 01:22:56,808
. There are a

1837
01:22:56,810 --> 01:23:00,814
couple of segments that come up to

1838
01:23:00,814 --> 01:23:01,815
the right-of-way.

1839
01:23:01,815 --> 01:23:03,815
>>

1840
01:23:03,817 --> 01:23:05,817
I know that

1841
01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:06,820
mike bailey had sketches drafted where

1842
01:23:06,820 --> 01:23:08,820
that was supposed

1843
01:23:09,790 --> 01:23:13,990
to go back to the county after

1844
01:23:15,796 --> 01:23:16,797
.

1845
01:23:16,797 --> 01:23:18,799
>> the county has been maintaining

1846
01:23:18,799 --> 01:23:20,799
the actual road

1847
01:23:21,802 --> 01:23:22,803
. They have now determined they should

1848
01:23:22,803 --> 01:23:24,803
not

1849
01:23:24,805 --> 01:23:27,808
have been. Is that what you

1850
01:23:27,808 --> 01:23:29,808
are saying?

1851
01:23:30,811 --> 01:23:33,814
>> it was not supposed come in

1852
01:23:33,814 --> 01:23:34,815
.

1853
01:23:34,815 --> 01:23:36,815
>> now they are

1854
01:23:36,817 --> 01:23:38,819
claiming it is. Now

1855
01:23:38,819 --> 01:23:39,820
they want to take back what they are

1856
01:23:39,820 --> 01:23:41,820
already maintaining

1857
01:23:42,823 --> 01:23:43,790
.

1858
01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:45,790
>> it sounds like

1859
01:23:45,792 --> 01:23:47,794
from what the city manager said is that

1860
01:23:47,794 --> 01:23:48,795
pembroke pines is going to take that

1861
01:23:48,795 --> 01:23:51,795
responsibility from the county. Is

1862
01:23:51,798 --> 01:23:52,799
that correct?

1863
01:23:52,799 --> 01:23:54,799
>> pembroke pines

1864
01:23:54,801 --> 01:23:56,801
wanted hein island

1865
01:23:57,804 --> 01:23:59,804
.

1866
01:24:00,807 --> 01:24:02,807
>>

1867
01:24:03,810 --> 01:24:05,810
this was first

1868
01:24:05,812 --> 01:24:06,813
engaged in 2019. There was conversation

1869
01:24:06,813 --> 01:24:08,813
going on

1870
01:24:09,816 --> 01:24:11,816
involving the

1871
01:24:12,819 --> 01:24:14,819
d annexation issue.

1872
01:24:15,822 --> 01:24:17,791
>> correct.

1873
01:24:17,791 --> 01:24:21,391
>> just for the commission and knowledge

1874
01:24:21,795 --> 01:24:23,795
,

1875
01:24:24,798 --> 01:24:27,801
they approved a conflict waiver and

1876
01:24:27,801 --> 01:24:30,801
outside council will work on

1877
01:24:30,804 --> 01:24:32,804
that

1878
01:24:33,807 --> 01:24:35,809
. I have not been involved in any

1879
01:24:35,809 --> 01:24:36,810
of this discussion. I do not have

1880
01:24:36,810 --> 01:24:37,811
more knowledge than I just conveyed.

1881
01:24:37,811 --> 01:24:39,811
I

1882
01:24:40,814 --> 01:24:43,817
would hope that it would remain

1883
01:24:43,817 --> 01:24:46,817
in place with the commission

1884
01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:48,820
prior approval.

1885
01:24:49,790 --> 01:24:51,790
we

1886
01:24:51,792 --> 01:24:52,793
are not giving them any land.

1887
01:24:52,793 --> 01:24:53,794
>> we

1888
01:24:53,794 --> 01:24:55,794
were

1889
01:24:55,796 --> 01:24:57,796
handling this.

1890
01:25:03,804 --> 01:25:07,404
>> this hedge that really benefits pines

1891
01:25:07,808 --> 01:25:09,808
benefits the residence.

1892
01:25:11,812 --> 01:25:13,814
we will do what you want and make

1893
01:25:13,814 --> 01:25:15,814
it look nice.

1894
01:25:18,819 --> 01:25:22,419
broward county was maintaining the road

1895
01:25:22,823 --> 01:25:24,791
. It

1896
01:25:24,791 --> 01:25:28,391
sounds like broward county found out

1897
01:25:28,795 --> 01:25:29,796
they should not

1898
01:25:29,796 --> 01:25:31,798
have to do that. They want to take

1899
01:25:31,798 --> 01:25:34,798
back what they've and maintaining

1900
01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:36,801
. They will take

1901
01:25:36,803 --> 01:25:41,300
it back in exchange for doing something

1902
01:25:42,809 --> 01:25:43,810
with the hedge. I think we should

1903
01:25:43,810 --> 01:25:45,810
get more information

1904
01:25:46,813 --> 01:25:48,813
on that.

1905
01:25:49,816 --> 01:25:51,816
and who does

1906
01:25:52,819 --> 01:25:54,819
the median?

1907
01:25:55,822 --> 01:25:58,222
we need more information

1908
01:25:58,792 --> 01:25:59,793
.

1909
01:25:59,793 --> 01:26:00,794
>> I know it

1910
01:26:00,794 --> 01:26:04,798
does not seem like a big deal to everyone

1911
01:26:04,798 --> 01:26:06,800
that is retaining. It is like a

1912
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:07,801
bait and switch in a way. We should

1913
01:26:07,801 --> 01:26:09,801
have a little

1914
01:26:10,804 --> 01:26:12,804
further insight

1915
01:26:19,813 --> 01:26:22,213
. We did not agree

1916
01:26:22,816 --> 01:26:24,816
to it.

1917
01:26:25,819 --> 01:26:28,819
we are still doing it.

1918
01:26:30,791 --> 01:26:31,792
they will never pay a recurring cost

1919
01:26:31,792 --> 01:26:33,792
on

1920
01:26:34,795 --> 01:26:36,795
it again.

1921
01:26:36,797 --> 01:26:40,801
we will handle the speed limit signs

1922
01:26:40,801 --> 01:26:43,801
. You can't make your own

1923
01:26:43,804 --> 01:26:45,804
speeds anymore.

1924
01:26:46,807 --> 01:26:49,807
>> so you are coming back.

1925
01:26:49,810 --> 01:26:51,810
>> no direction

1926
01:26:52,813 --> 01:26:54,813
right now.

1927
01:26:57,818 --> 01:27:01,822
>> the other one is just to provide

1928
01:27:01,822 --> 01:27:03,822
an update

1929
01:27:04,791 --> 01:27:07,794
and try to get support for us

1930
01:27:07,794 --> 01:27:09,794
.

1931
01:27:10,797 --> 01:27:12,797
you will receive

1932
01:27:12,799 --> 01:27:15,799
their conservation letter from bso

1933
01:27:16,803 --> 01:27:18,803
.

1934
01:27:19,806 --> 01:27:22,809
as you know we've basically said

1935
01:27:22,809 --> 01:27:25,812
that we required bso to stay

1936
01:27:25,812 --> 01:27:28,815
with them with the agreement that

1937
01:27:28,815 --> 01:27:30,815
we had.

1938
01:27:34,821 --> 01:27:36,821
when those letters

1939
01:27:37,791 --> 01:27:39,791
were sent ,

1940
01:27:40,794 --> 01:27:43,794
there is no negotiation here.

1941
01:27:43,797 --> 01:27:46,197
you take that position,

1942
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,803
thank you very much but go back

1943
01:27:49,803 --> 01:27:51,803
with you

1944
01:27:52,806 --> 01:27:55,809
guys. Those are now looking at

1945
01:27:55,809 --> 01:27:57,809
different options in

1946
01:27:57,811 --> 01:27:58,812
terms of why they will be doing that

1947
01:27:58,812 --> 01:28:01,212
in the future. Given

1948
01:28:01,815 --> 01:28:03,817
the position they have taken

1949
01:28:03,817 --> 01:28:04,818
they have not gotten back to us with

1950
01:28:04,818 --> 01:28:06,818
any proposed contract

1951
01:28:07,821 --> 01:28:09,821
.

1952
01:28:10,791 --> 01:28:12,791
we

1953
01:28:12,793 --> 01:28:13,794
sent a notice to review the contract

1954
01:28:13,794 --> 01:28:16,194
a few months back.

1955
01:28:16,797 --> 01:28:18,797
the contract is

1956
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,803
expired at the end of the year. We expect

1957
01:28:22,803 --> 01:28:24,803
, I

1958
01:28:25,806 --> 01:28:27,808
heard through the grapevine

1959
01:28:27,808 --> 01:28:28,809
that they are not looking to set up

1960
01:28:28,809 --> 01:28:30,809
the 5% capitol.

1961
01:28:31,812 --> 01:28:33,812
they

1962
01:28:33,814 --> 01:28:34,815
are basically open in the contract

1963
01:28:34,815 --> 01:28:36,815
for whatever

1964
01:28:37,818 --> 01:28:40,218
to give their employees

1965
01:28:40,821 --> 01:28:43,821
the pass-through to cooper city

1966
01:28:46,793 --> 01:28:49,796
without any input on those negotiations.

1967
01:28:49,796 --> 01:28:52,796
I think for fiscal year

1968
01:28:52,799 --> 01:28:54,799
26, we have budgeted

1969
01:28:55,802 --> 01:28:58,802
what they are asking for.

1970
01:29:00,807 --> 01:29:01,808
we will try to continue to ask questions

1971
01:29:01,808 --> 01:29:03,808
in terms of

1972
01:29:04,811 --> 01:29:06,811
the details and

1973
01:29:06,813 --> 01:29:07,814
consideration letter. There are a

1974
01:29:07,814 --> 01:29:10,817
lot of individual line items that

1975
01:29:10,817 --> 01:29:13,820
don't make sense in terms of overhead rate

1976
01:29:13,820 --> 01:29:15,820
and the rights

1977
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:18,790
they are charging

1978
01:29:19,793 --> 01:29:21,793
for the benefits

1979
01:29:25,799 --> 01:29:26,800
. It's an

1980
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,802
overhead rate and a payment to the

1981
01:29:28,802 --> 01:29:30,802
general fund

1982
01:29:37,811 --> 01:29:39,811
what I've got

1983
01:29:40,814 --> 01:29:42,814
,

1984
01:29:43,817 --> 01:29:46,820
I'm not paying for the full overhead

1985
01:29:46,820 --> 01:29:48,820
. If

1986
01:29:49,823 --> 01:29:52,793
it costs x amount of effort

1987
01:29:52,793 --> 01:29:54,793
,

1988
01:29:55,796 --> 01:29:57,796
that is one

1989
01:29:57,798 --> 01:29:58,799
thing but the cost of the sheriff

1990
01:29:58,799 --> 01:30:00,799
is really --he

1991
01:30:01,802 --> 01:30:06,602
does not get paid any more or less

1992
01:30:08,809 --> 01:30:11,209
. We are still trying

1993
01:30:11,812 --> 01:30:14,815
but I think in the long term

1994
01:30:14,815 --> 01:30:16,815
what is the

1995
01:30:17,818 --> 01:30:20,818
best way to provide services

1996
01:30:23,790 --> 01:30:25,790
. Now

1997
01:30:26,793 --> 01:30:29,796
that we are going to exercise

1998
01:30:29,796 --> 01:30:31,796
these options

1999
01:30:31,798 --> 01:30:36,598
with the approach that they have right now

2000
01:30:37,804 --> 01:30:38,805
. It is a one-way direction where

2001
01:30:38,805 --> 01:30:40,805
they say this

2002
01:30:41,808 --> 01:30:44,811
is it . I do not go over

2003
01:30:44,811 --> 01:30:46,811
the long-term

2004
01:30:50,817 --> 01:30:52,817
.

2005
01:30:53,820 --> 01:30:55,822
they are not really

2006
01:30:55,822 --> 01:30:56,790
trying to solve that. The approaches

2007
01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:58,790
there is

2008
01:30:58,792 --> 01:31:01,795
a problem and we will try to find

2009
01:31:01,795 --> 01:31:02,796
the solution . That is one approach

2010
01:31:02,796 --> 01:31:03,797
but they are

2011
01:31:03,797 --> 01:31:07,397
not following that. We already know

2012
01:31:07,801 --> 01:31:08,802
what the solution is and he's the

2013
01:31:08,802 --> 01:31:10,802
cost

2014
01:31:11,805 --> 01:31:14,205
of that. My intent

2015
01:31:14,808 --> 01:31:15,809
is to begin to work with staff and

2016
01:31:15,809 --> 01:31:17,811
everything else in neighboring cities

2017
01:31:17,811 --> 01:31:19,811
and find out

2018
01:31:23,817 --> 01:31:25,817
what options are

2019
01:31:26,820 --> 01:31:28,820
there.

2020
01:31:29,823 --> 01:31:31,823
>>

2021
01:31:32,793 --> 01:31:33,794
let me preface everything for

2022
01:31:33,794 --> 01:31:35,796
anyone that does not know this but

2023
01:31:35,796 --> 01:31:38,796
know that I support law

2024
01:31:38,799 --> 01:31:40,799
enforcement and

2025
01:31:41,802 --> 01:31:42,803
our fire department 1000%. Anyone that

2026
01:31:42,803 --> 01:31:43,804
does

2027
01:31:43,804 --> 01:31:44,805
not know that my husband has been

2028
01:31:44,805 --> 01:31:46,805
in

2029
01:31:47,808 --> 01:31:50,808
law enforcement for 30+ years. I

2030
01:31:50,811 --> 01:31:53,814
know my ins and outs than I care to

2031
01:31:53,814 --> 01:31:57,414
even think of. Second, I support

2032
01:32:01,822 --> 01:32:02,823
our deputies 1000%. I think they are

2033
01:32:02,823 --> 01:32:04,823
awesome and the

2034
01:32:05,792 --> 01:32:08,795
fire contingent as well. What I

2035
01:32:08,795 --> 01:32:10,797
don't support is the sheriff. I can

2036
01:32:10,797 --> 01:32:11,798
think of a few choice words but I

2037
01:32:11,798 --> 01:32:14,198
will be nice. What

2038
01:32:14,801 --> 01:32:17,804
I want, you are looking for what we want,

2039
01:32:17,804 --> 01:32:20,804
I don't want to be

2040
01:32:20,807 --> 01:32:23,810
only looking at if I partner

2041
01:32:23,810 --> 01:32:26,810
with hollywood pines or davie

2042
01:32:26,813 --> 01:32:28,813
.

2043
01:32:28,815 --> 01:32:29,816
in my opinion, this is just my opinion,

2044
01:32:29,816 --> 01:32:31,816
we

2045
01:32:32,819 --> 01:32:35,819
have the facilities, the cars.

2046
01:32:35,822 --> 01:32:36,790
if

2047
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:38,792
I want to partner with coral springs

2048
01:32:38,792 --> 01:32:40,794
and they want to give me

2049
01:32:40,794 --> 01:32:41,795
extra men and they are here, I don't

2050
01:32:41,795 --> 01:32:44,195
know if there is

2051
01:32:44,798 --> 01:32:47,801
a legal issue but I did a little research.

2052
01:32:47,801 --> 01:32:49,801
I was

2053
01:32:50,804 --> 01:32:52,806
told you could do it

2054
01:32:52,806 --> 01:32:53,807
if you get permission. I'm not an

2055
01:32:53,807 --> 01:32:56,807
attorney. I don't profess to

2056
01:32:56,810 --> 01:32:59,813
being a attorney. I don't want to

2057
01:32:59,813 --> 01:33:00,814
limit myself to negotiating with

2058
01:33:00,814 --> 01:33:02,816
just three cities because I'm being

2059
01:33:02,816 --> 01:33:05,216
held over a barrel.

2060
01:33:05,819 --> 01:33:06,820
I don't like bullies.

2061
01:33:06,820 --> 01:33:08,822
I got into politics because I don't

2062
01:33:08,822 --> 01:33:10,791
like bullies.

2063
01:33:10,791 --> 01:33:11,792
I will start tolerating them at this

2064
01:33:11,792 --> 01:33:13,794
point in my life.

2065
01:33:13,794 --> 01:33:14,795
unless sheriff tony can give me an

2066
01:33:14,795 --> 01:33:16,795
itemized forensic audit

2067
01:33:17,798 --> 01:33:20,798
as to why one plus

2068
01:33:20,801 --> 01:33:23,201
one he does two

2069
01:33:23,804 --> 01:33:25,804
--

2070
01:33:26,807 --> 01:33:29,807
one plus one equals two

2071
01:33:29,810 --> 01:33:31,810
he should not

2072
01:33:31,812 --> 01:33:34,815
get any increase. What he's asking for

2073
01:33:34,815 --> 01:33:35,816
I think is above and beyond without

2074
01:33:35,816 --> 01:33:38,216
any other proper backup

2075
01:33:38,819 --> 01:33:39,820
we've been asking for for years. Even

2076
01:33:39,820 --> 01:33:40,821
the

2077
01:33:40,821 --> 01:33:41,822
county does not get it. I've spoken

2078
01:33:41,822 --> 01:33:43,790
to steve geller

2079
01:33:43,790 --> 01:33:47,794
on more occasions than I can count

2080
01:33:47,794 --> 01:33:50,797
and I feel his frustration. They

2081
01:33:50,797 --> 01:33:52,797
don't answer

2082
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,803
to us. I understand that but it does

2083
01:33:56,803 --> 01:33:59,806
not make it acceptable. You have a

2084
01:33:59,806 --> 01:34:01,806
contractual obligation. I

2085
01:34:01,808 --> 01:34:02,809
understand that costs one up but you

2086
01:34:02,809 --> 01:34:04,809
also made promises

2087
01:34:05,812 --> 01:34:07,814
to people during your campaign

2088
01:34:07,814 --> 01:34:08,815
. That apparently is on the back of

2089
01:34:08,815 --> 01:34:10,815
my residence.

2090
01:34:11,818 --> 01:34:14,821
don't make promises you can't keep

2091
01:34:14,821 --> 01:34:16,821
with my pocketbook.

2092
01:34:16,823 --> 01:34:17,791
that is unacceptable. Anything you

2093
01:34:17,791 --> 01:34:19,791
can do. Again,

2094
01:34:20,794 --> 01:34:22,796
I love you guys I

2095
01:34:22,796 --> 01:34:23,797
think you are awesome. I think you

2096
01:34:23,797 --> 01:34:25,797
are great,

2097
01:34:25,799 --> 01:34:30,599
but if I have to privatize to save

2098
01:34:31,805 --> 01:34:32,806
being strong-armed because it is what's

2099
01:34:32,806 --> 01:34:34,806
best for

2100
01:34:35,809 --> 01:34:38,812
my city and my residence, that

2101
01:34:38,812 --> 01:34:41,815
is a step I'm willing to take.

2102
01:34:41,815 --> 01:34:42,816
I want what is best for my residence

2103
01:34:42,816 --> 01:34:44,816
and I

2104
01:34:44,818 --> 01:34:45,819
don't want to be strong-armed. I have

2105
01:34:45,819 --> 01:34:47,819
to be

2106
01:34:47,821 --> 01:34:50,791
able to know what costs are

2107
01:34:50,791 --> 01:34:52,793
. Just saying we will

2108
01:34:52,793 --> 01:34:53,794
not have a contract in the future

2109
01:34:53,794 --> 01:34:56,194
scares the heck out

2110
01:34:56,797 --> 01:34:59,800
of me because you have me over a

2111
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,803
barrel. There are plenty of people --

2112
01:35:02,803 --> 01:35:05,806
in my opinion we can take --

2113
01:35:05,806 --> 01:35:08,809
all the deputies in the city

2114
01:35:08,809 --> 01:35:11,812
bring them, keep them, have a nice day.

2115
01:35:11,812 --> 01:35:13,812
not literally

2116
01:35:14,815 --> 01:35:17,215
kidnapped them. Bring them.

2117
01:35:20,821 --> 01:35:23,221
that is the reality.

2118
01:35:32,799 --> 01:35:36,803
if we need to get permission for something

2119
01:35:36,803 --> 01:35:38,803
then get it.

2120
01:35:39,806 --> 01:35:42,806
I think in all honesty

2121
01:35:44,811 --> 01:35:48,815
we need to make sure everybody thinks

2122
01:35:48,815 --> 01:35:50,815
that way.

2123
01:35:51,818 --> 01:35:53,818
that is the

2124
01:35:54,821 --> 01:35:56,821
end of

2125
01:35:57,791 --> 01:35:59,791
every single day.

2126
01:36:03,797 --> 01:36:06,800
if I have to work within a budget

2127
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,400
so does the sheriff. Thank you.

2128
01:36:12,806 --> 01:36:14,806
>> some questions.

2129
01:36:15,809 --> 01:36:17,809
clarifications.

2130
01:36:21,815 --> 01:36:23,815
the contract year

2131
01:36:24,818 --> 01:36:26,818
with that

2132
01:36:27,821 --> 01:36:29,821
be september 2025

2133
01:36:33,794 --> 01:36:35,794
is there any

2134
01:36:35,796 --> 01:36:36,797
meeting or invitation or anything

2135
01:36:36,797 --> 01:36:38,797
that is

2136
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,800
supposed to happen .

2137
01:36:42,803 --> 01:36:45,806
I feel that other officials have

2138
01:36:45,806 --> 01:36:47,808
met and spoke to the leader

2139
01:36:47,808 --> 01:36:50,811
of the organization. Are we expecting

2140
01:36:50,811 --> 01:36:54,815
that here? Do you expect that with

2141
01:36:54,815 --> 01:36:56,815
your constituents?

2142
01:36:59,820 --> 01:37:02,820
>> from the city managers association

2143
01:37:02,823 --> 01:37:03,790
to the meeting with the sheriff's office.

2144
01:37:03,790 --> 01:37:05,790
I believe some

2145
01:37:05,792 --> 01:37:09,796
people have been able to meet with

2146
01:37:09,796 --> 01:37:11,796
the organization

2147
01:37:11,798 --> 01:37:12,799
. I do not know any that have actually

2148
01:37:12,799 --> 01:37:14,799
met

2149
01:37:15,802 --> 01:37:17,802
with the sheriff.

2150
01:37:18,805 --> 01:37:21,808
with the sheriff the only meeting

2151
01:37:21,808 --> 01:37:24,808
we had was in april

2152
01:37:27,814 --> 01:37:29,814
. He invited us.

2153
01:37:30,817 --> 01:37:32,817
some of

2154
01:37:32,819 --> 01:37:36,419
these top command people were there.

2155
01:37:36,823 --> 01:37:37,791
>>

2156
01:37:37,791 --> 01:37:41,391
outside of the city manager association,

2157
01:37:42,796 --> 01:37:44,798
have you or staff

2158
01:37:44,798 --> 01:37:45,799
asked him to meet with you, your staff?

2159
01:37:45,799 --> 01:37:46,800
>>

2160
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,800
we

2161
01:37:48,802 --> 01:37:49,803
can try .

2162
01:37:49,803 --> 01:37:51,803
>> okay.

2163
01:37:51,805 --> 01:37:53,805
I like that.

2164
01:37:54,808 --> 01:37:57,808
there is a premier service

2165
01:38:00,814 --> 01:38:01,815
for law enforcement and fire. I do

2166
01:38:01,815 --> 01:38:05,415
not and would never support privatizing

2167
01:38:09,823 --> 01:38:10,791
. If the

2168
01:38:10,791 --> 01:38:12,793
municipality of cooper city decided

2169
01:38:12,793 --> 01:38:14,793
the betterment

2170
01:38:14,795 --> 01:38:15,796
was to go back to the business model

2171
01:38:15,796 --> 01:38:17,796
that is different

2172
01:38:17,798 --> 01:38:18,799
but I will not be looking to hire

2173
01:38:18,799 --> 01:38:20,799
but

2174
01:38:21,802 --> 01:38:22,803
a hospital district tires,

2175
01:38:22,803 --> 01:38:25,803
some organization that was privatized.

2176
01:38:27,808 --> 01:38:29,808
>>

2177
01:38:30,811 --> 01:38:32,811
one can. Can

2178
01:38:33,814 --> 01:38:37,414
you explain that a little bit?

2179
01:38:42,823 --> 01:38:43,790
>> I have

2180
01:38:43,790 --> 01:38:45,792
a point of information to what you just

2181
01:38:45,792 --> 01:38:47,794
said. You said you

2182
01:38:47,794 --> 01:38:48,795
are okay but not to privatize. I consider us

2183
01:38:48,795 --> 01:38:50,795
if we

2184
01:38:51,798 --> 01:38:54,801
had to that is what I

2185
01:38:54,801 --> 01:38:55,802
considered.

2186
01:38:55,802 --> 01:38:57,802
>> that is not

2187
01:38:57,804 --> 01:39:00,807
what the term is identified as.

2188
01:39:00,807 --> 01:39:01,808
>> I just want to clarify. If cooper

2189
01:39:01,808 --> 01:39:03,810
city will have their own police department

2190
01:39:03,810 --> 01:39:06,810
that is what I meant.

2191
01:39:06,813 --> 01:39:08,813
>> I think you

2192
01:39:08,815 --> 01:39:11,818
meant private organization. I do not

2193
01:39:11,818 --> 01:39:12,819
want that. I apologize.

2194
01:39:12,819 --> 01:39:13,820
>> mayor,

2195
01:39:13,820 --> 01:39:15,822
your question to me

2196
01:39:15,822 --> 01:39:18,822
was there is split services

2197
01:39:20,794 --> 01:39:23,794
providing police service, law enforcement

2198
01:39:24,798 --> 01:39:26,798
protection.

2199
01:39:30,804 --> 01:39:32,804
I do not

2200
01:39:32,806 --> 01:39:36,810
want to assume. I want to ask you

2201
01:39:36,810 --> 01:39:37,811
. If you

2202
01:39:37,811 --> 01:39:39,813
are talking about split service you

2203
01:39:39,813 --> 01:39:42,813
look for one of the

2204
01:39:42,816 --> 01:39:43,817
services provided so you have an idea

2205
01:39:43,817 --> 01:39:45,817
of

2206
01:39:45,819 --> 01:39:48,822
what you are thinking in your concern

2207
01:39:48,822 --> 01:39:50,822
of pivoting.

2208
01:39:51,792 --> 01:39:54,795
>> I think one is easier than

2209
01:39:54,795 --> 01:39:56,797
the other . I think the

2210
01:39:56,797 --> 01:40:00,397
fire service is easier. The complexity

2211
01:40:00,801 --> 01:40:03,201
with the different branches

2212
01:40:03,804 --> 01:40:05,804
and

2213
01:40:06,807 --> 01:40:09,207
the fire service network

2214
01:40:12,813 --> 01:40:14,813
agreements

2215
01:40:15,816 --> 01:40:17,816
in cities.

2216
01:40:18,819 --> 01:40:20,819
>> I can

2217
01:40:21,822 --> 01:40:23,822
only speak,

2218
01:40:24,791 --> 01:40:27,791
while I speak for myself

2219
01:40:30,797 --> 01:40:33,800
. The issue was the concern for

2220
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,800
the leadership position

2221
01:40:36,803 --> 01:40:38,805
that needs direction from us is the concern

2222
01:40:38,805 --> 01:40:42,809
. Not the cost today but the position

2223
01:40:42,809 --> 01:40:44,809
of cost

2224
01:40:45,812 --> 01:40:46,813
. Is that where the line is?

2225
01:40:46,813 --> 01:40:48,813
>>

2226
01:40:51,818 --> 01:40:52,819
that is what I'm concerned about .

2227
01:40:52,819 --> 01:40:54,819
even if

2228
01:40:54,821 --> 01:40:57,791
you have a contract, the position

2229
01:40:57,791 --> 01:40:59,791
he is taken

2230
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,200
when he determines there

2231
01:41:09,803 --> 01:41:12,803
is a need for change.

2232
01:41:12,806 --> 01:41:14,806
>> understood. The way

2233
01:41:15,809 --> 01:41:17,809
it goes

2234
01:41:18,812 --> 01:41:20,812
until september 30, 2025 ,

2235
01:41:21,815 --> 01:41:23,815
is that,

2236
01:41:25,819 --> 01:41:26,820
is he living in that

2237
01:41:26,820 --> 01:41:28,822
contract means and then you are receiving

2238
01:41:28,822 --> 01:41:31,222
a new proposal that

2239
01:41:31,792 --> 01:41:32,793
then

2240
01:41:32,793 --> 01:41:34,795
presents what you just specified?

2241
01:41:34,795 --> 01:41:37,195
as the leader deems

2242
01:41:37,798 --> 01:41:39,800
he is going to render that cost

2243
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,400
no matter what the contract says?

2244
01:41:46,807 --> 01:41:49,810
>> that is what he put those

2245
01:41:49,810 --> 01:41:51,810
in.

2246
01:41:55,816 --> 01:41:57,816
>>

2247
01:41:57,818 --> 01:42:03,218
he says no. I need to do this now.

2248
01:42:04,791 --> 01:42:06,791
>> and so,

2249
01:42:07,794 --> 01:42:10,794
for us as the electorates

2250
01:42:10,797 --> 01:42:12,797
that have to

2251
01:42:12,799 --> 01:42:13,800
give some direction when we will receive

2252
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,800
back from

2253
01:42:16,803 --> 01:42:18,803
you notification

2254
01:42:18,805 --> 01:42:19,806
when we have to start having further

2255
01:42:19,806 --> 01:42:21,806
discussions

2256
01:42:22,809 --> 01:42:24,811
because they have not responded.

2257
01:42:24,811 --> 01:42:25,812
is this something we are talking within

2258
01:42:25,812 --> 01:42:27,814
the next 48 hours out

2259
01:42:27,814 --> 01:42:28,815
of your office we will have an invitation

2260
01:42:28,815 --> 01:42:30,815
to

2261
01:42:31,818 --> 01:42:34,821
come and speak or however that

2262
01:42:34,821 --> 01:42:36,821
will work?

2263
01:42:37,791 --> 01:42:40,191
>> I will coordinate with

2264
01:42:40,794 --> 01:42:42,794
the mayor.

2265
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,200
we will do that.

2266
01:42:52,806 --> 01:42:55,809
we do the analysis and start doing

2267
01:42:55,809 --> 01:42:58,809
the legwork . It is going

2268
01:42:58,812 --> 01:43:00,812
to take time

2269
01:43:00,814 --> 01:43:01,815
. Fortunately we have some good resources.

2270
01:43:01,815 --> 01:43:03,815
we

2271
01:43:04,818 --> 01:43:07,818
will be talking to them

2272
01:43:07,821 --> 01:43:09,821
more individually.

2273
01:43:16,797 --> 01:43:18,797
it

2274
01:43:18,799 --> 01:43:22,999
is probably better to have that feedback

2275
01:43:25,806 --> 01:43:27,806
>> any

2276
01:43:28,809 --> 01:43:31,209
discussions between your self

2277
01:43:31,812 --> 01:43:34,212
and the advisory board?

2278
01:43:34,815 --> 01:43:36,815
thank you.

2279
01:43:40,821 --> 01:43:42,823
>> so, I kind of

2280
01:43:42,823 --> 01:43:43,824
want to echo a lot of the points commissioner

2281
01:43:43,824 --> 01:43:45,824
mallozzi

2282
01:43:46,793 --> 01:43:47,794
made about the lack of

2283
01:43:47,794 --> 01:43:49,796
accountability and transparency. First

2284
01:43:49,796 --> 01:43:51,796
of all,

2285
01:43:52,799 --> 01:43:55,802
I want to commend the team

2286
01:43:55,802 --> 01:43:58,202
. I should recognize I 100%

2287
01:43:58,805 --> 01:44:00,807
support the law enforcement and

2288
01:44:00,807 --> 01:44:01,808
fire team. It's not about you all

2289
01:44:01,808 --> 01:44:04,808
individually or your teams that

2290
01:44:04,811 --> 01:44:06,811
serve cooper city

2291
01:44:12,819 --> 01:44:13,820
. I do think there has been a lack

2292
01:44:13,820 --> 01:44:15,820
of transparency and

2293
01:44:16,823 --> 01:44:17,791
it has been unprofessional to not

2294
01:44:17,791 --> 01:44:19,793
show up and support your contract

2295
01:44:19,793 --> 01:44:20,794
cities. The city managers are the

2296
01:44:20,794 --> 01:44:22,794
ceos

2297
01:44:22,796 --> 01:44:24,796
of the

2298
01:44:24,798 --> 01:44:25,799
contract cities and should be respected

2299
01:44:25,799 --> 01:44:28,799
the way the sheriff wants

2300
01:44:28,802 --> 01:44:30,802
to be respected.

2301
01:44:30,804 --> 01:44:31,805
I'm also concerned that the lack of

2302
01:44:31,805 --> 01:44:33,807
transparency in the budget is

2303
01:44:33,807 --> 01:44:37,811
due to waste. We see what is going on

2304
01:44:37,811 --> 01:44:39,811
publicly. With

2305
01:44:46,820 --> 01:44:48,820
the fact that

2306
01:44:52,793 --> 01:44:54,795
doge is about to

2307
01:44:54,795 --> 01:44:55,796
investigate the sheriff according

2308
01:44:55,796 --> 01:44:57,796
to sunsentinel.

2309
01:44:58,799 --> 01:45:01,802
we should be concerned and I

2310
01:45:01,802 --> 01:45:02,803
support you doing that. In prioritizing

2311
01:45:02,803 --> 01:45:04,803
the

2312
01:45:04,805 --> 01:45:07,805
fact that our residents demand

2313
01:45:07,808 --> 01:45:10,811
the highest level of service in our

2314
01:45:10,811 --> 01:45:13,814
public safety. That and passing the budget

2315
01:45:13,814 --> 01:45:15,814
are our to

2316
01:45:15,816 --> 01:45:21,816
only jobs if we had to pick two. Thank you.

2317
01:45:25,792 --> 01:45:26,793
>>

2318
01:45:26,793 --> 01:45:28,795
my favorite employee at the sheriff's

2319
01:45:28,795 --> 01:45:31,795
office is robin. I will

2320
01:45:31,798 --> 01:45:34,198
say this . We have

2321
01:45:34,801 --> 01:45:37,801
a hat to put on

2322
01:45:37,804 --> 01:45:40,807
for the best interest of cooper city

2323
01:45:40,807 --> 01:45:42,807
. I

2324
01:45:42,809 --> 01:45:46,813
plan on providing the best law enforcement

2325
01:45:46,813 --> 01:45:48,813
. I think the

2326
01:45:48,815 --> 01:45:49,816
sheriff's office does a great job.

2327
01:45:49,816 --> 01:45:52,819
if we were ever forced to leave

2328
01:45:52,819 --> 01:45:54,819
I would also

2329
01:45:55,822 --> 01:45:58,222
not want to privatize.

2330
01:46:01,795 --> 01:46:03,797
I hope that is not the

2331
01:46:03,797 --> 01:46:04,798
case because I do not plan to hire

2332
01:46:04,798 --> 01:46:06,798
police or firefighters.

2333
01:46:07,801 --> 01:46:09,801
I think in

2334
01:46:10,804 --> 01:46:13,807
the past we have shown that we are

2335
01:46:13,807 --> 01:46:16,810
serious about public safety. We have amended

2336
01:46:16,810 --> 01:46:19,210
our contracts, adding resources

2337
01:46:19,813 --> 01:46:22,213
but we've also shown

2338
01:46:22,816 --> 01:46:25,819
that we want to be serious participants

2339
01:46:25,819 --> 01:46:28,822
in our public safety policy. The sheriff

2340
01:46:28,822 --> 01:46:30,822
is a very

2341
01:46:30,824 --> 01:46:33,794
smart man. He's a doctor and I think

2342
01:46:33,794 --> 01:46:34,795
he understands we cannot sign a contract

2343
01:46:34,795 --> 01:46:37,795
with no caps. Especially on

2344
01:46:37,798 --> 01:46:39,798
the heels

2345
01:46:40,801 --> 01:46:43,804
of the state talking time and time

2346
01:46:43,804 --> 01:46:45,804
again about

2347
01:46:45,806 --> 01:46:46,807
reducing or getting rid of property

2348
01:46:46,807 --> 01:46:49,810
tax. Even if we know it's

2349
01:46:49,810 --> 01:46:51,812
not realistic. Every bit of

2350
01:46:51,812 --> 01:46:55,412
the conversation has been about reduction,

2351
01:46:55,816 --> 01:46:58,819
going the other way. Right now we collect

2352
01:46:58,819 --> 01:47:00,819
$25 million or $26 million

2353
01:47:01,822 --> 01:47:06,220
in property tax . We just have to,

2354
01:47:08,795 --> 01:47:09,796
I am hoping you get a

2355
01:47:09,796 --> 01:47:11,798
call and they want to come negotiate

2356
01:47:11,798 --> 01:47:12,799
like they've done every time.

2357
01:47:12,799 --> 01:47:14,801
we are always willing to pay fair

2358
01:47:14,801 --> 01:47:15,802
market value but if not

2359
01:47:15,802 --> 01:47:17,804
and they need to go a separate direction

2360
01:47:17,804 --> 01:47:18,805
because

2361
01:47:18,805 --> 01:47:20,807
maybe they have other things they have

2362
01:47:20,807 --> 01:47:22,809
to worry about them

2363
01:47:22,809 --> 01:47:23,810
we will have to do whatever we need

2364
01:47:23,810 --> 01:47:25,810
to

2365
01:47:25,812 --> 01:47:26,813
do to supply that same level of excellent

2366
01:47:26,813 --> 01:47:27,814
public

2367
01:47:27,814 --> 01:47:29,816
safety to residents. Hopefully it

2368
01:47:29,816 --> 01:47:31,816
works out

2369
01:47:32,819 --> 01:47:33,820
.

2370
01:47:33,820 --> 01:47:35,820
>> I will

2371
01:47:35,822 --> 01:47:36,823
and

2372
01:47:36,823 --> 01:47:38,792
that by saying this. The bar has been

2373
01:47:38,792 --> 01:47:41,792
set for public safety in

2374
01:47:41,795 --> 01:47:44,195
cooper city. The residence

2375
01:47:44,798 --> 01:47:46,798
demand it.

2376
01:47:53,807 --> 01:47:54,808
nothing

2377
01:47:54,808 --> 01:47:55,809
gets them here quicker than talking

2378
01:47:55,809 --> 01:47:56,810
about changing colors of fire trucks

2379
01:47:56,810 --> 01:47:57,811
or

2380
01:47:57,811 --> 01:47:59,813
police cars. He has created a market

2381
01:47:59,813 --> 01:48:02,213
that is untouched by

2382
01:48:02,816 --> 01:48:06,416
anyone else . With all I have

2383
01:48:08,822 --> 01:48:09,823
I hope that they come

2384
01:48:09,823 --> 01:48:11,792
to the table and do the right thing

2385
01:48:11,792 --> 01:48:12,793
for the residents of

2386
01:48:12,793 --> 01:48:14,795
our county and cooper city. That's

2387
01:48:14,795 --> 01:48:17,798
where I'm leaving that for right now.

2388
01:48:17,798 --> 01:48:18,799
city managers report.

2389
01:48:18,799 --> 01:48:19,800
>>

2390
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:20,801
I am done.

2391
01:48:20,801 --> 01:48:22,801
>> commissioner concerns

2392
01:48:23,804 --> 01:48:25,804
. Public input.

2393
01:48:29,810 --> 01:48:31,810
commissioner smith.

2394
01:48:32,813 --> 01:48:35,213
>> thank you. In this

2395
01:48:35,816 --> 01:48:38,819
moment I want to say welcome

2396
01:48:38,819 --> 01:48:41,819
to our new lieutenant. I've

2397
01:48:41,822 --> 01:48:42,823
been receiving updates on what is

2398
01:48:42,823 --> 01:48:43,824
going

2399
01:48:43,824 --> 01:48:47,794
on in the city that is pertinent to us

2400
01:48:47,794 --> 01:48:48,795
and I

2401
01:48:48,795 --> 01:48:50,797
appreciate that. Communication is

2402
01:48:50,797 --> 01:48:52,797
a big deal

2403
01:48:52,799 --> 01:48:53,800
and if hit the ground running. Thank

2404
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:55,800
you for that

2405
01:48:55,802 --> 01:48:56,803
and welcome. Thank you to the staff

2406
01:48:56,803 --> 01:48:59,803
and thank you for putting

2407
01:48:59,806 --> 01:49:01,808
in the hours so we can make the

2408
01:49:01,808 --> 01:49:02,809
right decisions for the city. I yield.

2409
01:49:02,809 --> 01:49:04,809
>>

2410
01:49:05,812 --> 01:49:07,812
commissioner mallozzi.

2411
01:49:11,818 --> 01:49:13,818
>> welcome.

2412
01:49:14,821 --> 01:49:16,823
I hope you get to stay

2413
01:49:16,823 --> 01:49:19,793
and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

2414
01:49:19,793 --> 01:49:20,794
thank you to staff because budget

2415
01:49:20,794 --> 01:49:22,794
season is miserable

2416
01:49:23,797 --> 01:49:24,798
. It is

2417
01:49:24,798 --> 01:49:26,800
extra long hours so I appreciate all

2418
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,802
that you do. By the time

2419
01:49:28,802 --> 01:49:29,803
we meet again I believe school will

2420
01:49:29,803 --> 01:49:31,803
be in session

2421
01:49:32,806 --> 01:49:35,206
. If I could ask

2422
01:49:35,809 --> 01:49:37,809
the city manager

2423
01:49:37,811 --> 01:49:38,812
to approve my asking mr. Cabello to

2424
01:49:38,812 --> 01:49:40,812
be sure we

2425
01:49:40,814 --> 01:49:44,414
put some announcements out there about

2426
01:49:44,818 --> 01:49:47,818
traffic patterns, no parking or

2427
01:49:47,821 --> 01:49:49,823
staging in the street, watch

2428
01:49:49,823 --> 01:49:53,794
for the children that will be walking because

2429
01:49:53,794 --> 01:49:55,794
while

2430
01:49:56,797 --> 01:49:58,799
I think everybody will remember,

2431
01:49:58,799 --> 01:49:59,800
there might just be that one person

2432
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,200
that goes zooming down.

2433
01:50:02,803 --> 01:50:04,803
everything we

2434
01:50:04,805 --> 01:50:05,806
can do to let everybody know what

2435
01:50:05,806 --> 01:50:08,809
is going on and remind them

2436
01:50:08,809 --> 01:50:10,811
about it. I hope

2437
01:50:10,811 --> 01:50:13,814
everybody enjoys the rest of their summer.

2438
01:50:13,814 --> 01:50:16,214
>> commissioner katzman. >> thank you.

2439
01:50:20,821 --> 01:50:22,823
one softy and one business item. I

2440
01:50:22,823 --> 01:50:23,824
want to thank the team . Everybody

2441
01:50:23,824 --> 01:50:26,224
has been working really

2442
01:50:26,793 --> 01:50:29,793
hard this summer. We had

2443
01:50:29,796 --> 01:50:32,796
a sinkhole, we have had

2444
01:50:32,799 --> 01:50:35,802
the finance team, parks and rec,

2445
01:50:35,802 --> 01:50:38,802
every single department has been

2446
01:50:38,805 --> 01:50:40,805
working nonstop. We

2447
01:50:41,808 --> 01:50:44,208
appreciate you. The business

2448
01:50:44,811 --> 01:50:45,812
item I have, we alluded to this in

2449
01:50:45,812 --> 01:50:47,812
the

2450
01:50:47,814 --> 01:50:49,816
last meeting in the

2451
01:50:49,816 --> 01:50:50,817
budget meeting. I think we need to

2452
01:50:50,817 --> 01:50:52,817
address the

2453
01:50:53,820 --> 01:50:56,823
fpl issue. A lot of people

2454
01:50:56,823 --> 01:50:59,793
have given -- been complaining that

2455
01:50:59,793 --> 01:51:02,193
the power surges are

2456
01:51:02,796 --> 01:51:04,796
damaging their appliances.

2457
01:51:05,799 --> 01:51:06,800
we discussed a resolution directing

2458
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:07,801
the city

2459
01:51:07,801 --> 01:51:08,802
attorney's office to draft a resolution.

2460
01:51:08,802 --> 01:51:10,802
voting on

2461
01:51:11,805 --> 01:51:14,808
it tonight due to the timing

2462
01:51:14,808 --> 01:51:17,811
and knowing the next meeting is not

2463
01:51:17,811 --> 01:51:20,811
until the end of august.

2464
01:51:23,817 --> 01:51:26,820
>> I would ask for a motion

2465
01:51:26,820 --> 01:51:29,220
to adopt the resolution

2466
01:51:29,823 --> 01:51:31,823
as drafted

2467
01:51:32,793 --> 01:51:33,794
by the city attorney.

2468
01:51:33,794 --> 01:51:35,794
>>

2469
01:51:35,796 --> 01:51:38,799
that would be consistent to the budget

2470
01:51:38,799 --> 01:51:40,799
issue earlier.

2471
01:51:41,802 --> 01:51:44,805
we will provide that to you.

2472
01:51:44,805 --> 01:51:47,808
>> just send a copy to the public

2473
01:51:47,808 --> 01:51:50,208
services commissioner. Inc. You.

2474
01:51:50,811 --> 01:51:53,211
>> I will second that. >>

2475
01:51:53,814 --> 01:51:55,814
call a vote.

2476
01:51:56,817 --> 01:51:58,817
>> commissioner smith

2477
01:51:59,820 --> 01:52:01,820
, commissioner mallozzi,

2478
01:52:01,822 --> 01:52:04,222
commissioner katzman, commissioner shrouder,

2479
01:52:05,792 --> 01:52:07,792
mayor curran.

2480
01:52:08,795 --> 01:52:10,795
>> commissioner shrouder. >>

2481
01:52:11,798 --> 01:52:12,799
nothing.

2482
01:52:12,799 --> 01:52:13,800
>> thank you

2483
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:14,801
staff, everybody, everybody online.

2484
01:52:14,801 --> 01:52:17,201
we will go to

2485
01:52:17,804 --> 01:52:19,804
citizens input.

2486
01:52:20,807 --> 01:52:23,807
>> there were some budget items

2487
01:52:23,810 --> 01:52:24,811
in the budget that I wanted to bring

2488
01:52:24,811 --> 01:52:26,811
up. How

2489
01:52:26,813 --> 01:52:30,817
does that get added? Is that another opportunity?

2490
01:52:30,817 --> 01:52:32,817
>>

2491
01:52:33,820 --> 01:52:36,820
just the line item concerns.

2492
01:52:36,823 --> 01:52:37,824
>>

2493
01:52:37,824 --> 01:52:38,792
sounds good.

2494
01:52:38,792 --> 01:52:39,793
>> do you want to do

2495
01:52:39,793 --> 01:52:40,794
that now?

2496
01:52:40,794 --> 01:52:42,794
>>

2497
01:52:42,796 --> 01:52:44,796
kassman brought up

2498
01:52:45,799 --> 01:52:47,799
homeowners association

2499
01:52:48,802 --> 01:52:50,802
enforcement.

2500
01:52:51,805 --> 01:52:52,806
I don't want to add

2501
01:52:52,806 --> 01:52:54,808
a whole person but I figured we should earmark

2502
01:52:54,808 --> 01:52:57,808
some money to do a

2503
01:52:57,811 --> 01:52:59,811
test on that.

2504
01:53:00,814 --> 01:53:03,214
code people cost like

2505
01:53:03,817 --> 01:53:06,817
200 so we can't do that,

2506
01:53:11,792 --> 01:53:12,793
>> if you hire a crossing guard it

2507
01:53:12,793 --> 01:53:14,793
would come

2508
01:53:15,796 --> 01:53:18,196
out cheaper. Another thing

2509
01:53:18,799 --> 01:53:19,800
to coordinate a little bit more .

2510
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,802
they use to handle it but now they

2511
01:53:21,802 --> 01:53:23,802
got stripped

2512
01:53:24,805 --> 01:53:26,805
with commercial vehicles.

2513
01:53:30,811 --> 01:53:32,811
we can't

2514
01:53:32,813 --> 01:53:34,815
double the code budget but what do you

2515
01:53:34,815 --> 01:53:36,817
think would be a reasonable amount?

2516
01:53:36,817 --> 01:53:38,817
the other one

2517
01:53:42,823 --> 01:53:45,792
the pet project was the

2518
01:53:45,792 --> 01:53:47,792
twist thing.

2519
01:53:48,795 --> 01:53:51,798
we gave her a line item

2520
01:53:51,798 --> 01:53:53,798
.

2521
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:54,801
he said he was going to give me the

2522
01:53:54,801 --> 01:53:56,801
20

2523
01:53:56,803 --> 01:54:02,203
but it only gets spent when we use it.

2524
01:54:03,810 --> 01:54:05,810
>> she says

2525
01:54:06,813 --> 01:54:08,813
10 to 20.

2526
01:54:09,816 --> 01:54:12,216
>> anything to do with

2527
01:54:12,819 --> 01:54:15,822
the police they love to do it.

2528
01:54:15,822 --> 01:54:17,822
>> that was easy.

2529
01:54:18,792 --> 01:54:19,793
anything else?

2530
01:54:19,793 --> 01:54:21,793
>> come

2531
01:54:21,795 --> 01:54:23,795
on up.

2532
01:54:30,804 --> 01:54:32,804
>> good evening.

2533
01:54:33,807 --> 01:54:36,807
peach lake the current president

2534
01:54:36,810 --> 01:54:38,810
of the [ inaudible

2535
01:54:39,813 --> 01:54:41,813
] club.

2536
01:54:42,816 --> 01:54:43,817
I know that

2537
01:54:43,817 --> 01:54:45,819
we spent four or five months negotiating

2538
01:54:45,819 --> 01:54:46,820
the new operating agreement. When

2539
01:54:46,820 --> 01:54:48,820
we

2540
01:54:48,822 --> 01:54:50,824
met I understood the that it was

2541
01:54:50,824 --> 01:54:51,792
so we all can work better together.

2542
01:54:51,792 --> 01:54:54,192
we've had the document

2543
01:54:54,795 --> 01:54:56,795
signed for maybe

2544
01:54:57,798 --> 01:54:58,799
four, five, six weeks. I thought

2545
01:54:58,799 --> 01:55:00,801
I would bring a summary of what's

2546
01:55:00,801 --> 01:55:03,801
happened so far. The club

2547
01:55:03,804 --> 01:55:06,204
has hired an attorney

2548
01:55:06,807 --> 01:55:08,807
. We are rewriting

2549
01:55:08,809 --> 01:55:12,409
our articles of incorporation and bylaws

2550
01:55:12,813 --> 01:55:13,814
we are

2551
01:55:13,814 --> 01:55:15,816
rebidding insurance based on the new

2552
01:55:15,816 --> 01:55:18,216
requirements. We are adding

2553
01:55:18,819 --> 01:55:21,219
checks and balance policy

2554
01:55:21,822 --> 01:55:24,791
or program to the club.

2555
01:55:24,791 --> 01:55:25,792
we have a cpa stepping up to be the

2556
01:55:25,792 --> 01:55:26,793
treasurer

2557
01:55:26,793 --> 01:55:27,794
to work with the bookkeeper to put

2558
01:55:27,794 --> 01:55:29,794
policies and procedures

2559
01:55:30,797 --> 01:55:32,797
in place.

2560
01:55:32,799 --> 01:55:33,800
we offered commissioner shrouder to join

2561
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:35,800
us and

2562
01:55:35,802 --> 01:55:39,806
help us make the policies and procedures

2563
01:55:39,806 --> 01:55:41,808
although he said it may be

2564
01:55:41,808 --> 01:55:42,809
a waste of time he still said that

2565
01:55:42,809 --> 01:55:45,809
he would make an effort

2566
01:55:45,812 --> 01:55:47,814
to do it. We

2567
01:55:47,814 --> 01:55:48,815
are working to standardize the sponsorship

2568
01:55:48,815 --> 01:55:50,815
. We are

2569
01:55:51,818 --> 01:55:54,818
working to standardize the banners

2570
01:55:54,821 --> 01:55:57,221
and we are testing

2571
01:56:00,794 --> 01:56:01,795
the

2572
01:56:01,795 --> 01:56:03,797
rec program with the softball program.

2573
01:56:03,797 --> 01:56:06,797
with also happen with the

2574
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:08,800
new agreement ,

2575
01:56:09,803 --> 01:56:10,804
you guys have ordered an audit of

2576
01:56:10,804 --> 01:56:12,804
the property.

2577
01:56:12,806 --> 01:56:15,206
commissioner shrouder has asked

2578
01:56:15,809 --> 01:56:17,809
for bank statements

2579
01:56:17,811 --> 01:56:18,812
. I offered backup information because

2580
01:56:18,812 --> 01:56:20,812
bank statements without

2581
01:56:21,815 --> 01:56:23,815
backup information

2582
01:56:24,818 --> 01:56:25,819
is kind of shooting in the dark.

2583
01:56:25,819 --> 01:56:27,821
he did not want the backup statements.

2584
01:56:27,821 --> 01:56:28,822
now I understand he's

2585
01:56:28,822 --> 01:56:30,824
putting together a list of questions

2586
01:56:30,824 --> 01:56:32,793
on bank statements that could have

2587
01:56:32,793 --> 01:56:36,393
been answered with the backup information.

2588
01:56:36,797 --> 01:56:39,797
we had an accusation that

2589
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,800
we are purposely telling parents

2590
01:56:42,803 --> 01:56:45,806
not to sign up on the rec track

2591
01:56:45,806 --> 01:56:48,206
program purposely. Farthest from

2592
01:56:48,809 --> 01:56:50,811
the truth. We have

2593
01:56:50,811 --> 01:56:51,812
emails glory going back and forth

2594
01:56:51,812 --> 01:56:54,812
trying to figure it out

2595
01:56:54,815 --> 01:56:57,818
because it is not going smoothly currently.

2596
01:56:57,818 --> 01:57:00,218
we had a request

2597
01:57:00,821 --> 01:57:02,821
from the rec

2598
01:57:02,823 --> 01:57:03,824
department that any and all issues

2599
01:57:03,824 --> 01:57:05,792
that

2600
01:57:05,792 --> 01:57:06,793
occur should be reported to the city.

2601
01:57:06,793 --> 01:57:09,193
we agree when there's

2602
01:57:09,796 --> 01:57:11,798
an incident and an injury

2603
01:57:11,798 --> 01:57:12,799
a form should be filled out and sent

2604
01:57:12,799 --> 01:57:14,799
to the city

2605
01:57:15,802 --> 01:57:17,802
.

2606
01:57:18,805 --> 01:57:19,806
a request of any incident. A shouting

2607
01:57:19,806 --> 01:57:20,807
match or

2608
01:57:20,807 --> 01:57:24,407
coach being ejected from one game,

2609
01:57:24,811 --> 01:57:25,812
everything should be reported to the city

2610
01:57:25,812 --> 01:57:27,812
. Very

2611
01:57:27,814 --> 01:57:29,814
difficult to do

2612
01:57:34,821 --> 01:57:37,221
>> can I ask you

2613
01:57:37,824 --> 01:57:39,824
a question

2614
01:57:43,797 --> 01:57:45,797
>> [ inaudible - low

2615
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,800
volume ]

2616
01:57:49,803 --> 01:57:51,803
>> I

2617
01:57:52,806 --> 01:57:55,806
get notified by optimist members

2618
01:57:55,809 --> 01:57:58,809
of resident saying different things

2619
01:57:58,812 --> 01:57:59,813
took place

2620
01:57:59,813 --> 01:58:01,815
where a kid was kicked in the face,

2621
01:58:01,815 --> 01:58:03,817
fighting over a ball

2622
01:58:03,817 --> 01:58:06,820
, a parent was threatened by a coach.

2623
01:58:06,820 --> 01:58:07,821
when incidents like this take place

2624
01:58:07,821 --> 01:58:08,822
we need

2625
01:58:08,822 --> 01:58:10,824
to be notified before the residence

2626
01:58:10,824 --> 01:58:11,792
start to call

2627
01:58:11,792 --> 01:58:13,794
in saying something and our partner

2628
01:58:13,794 --> 01:58:15,794
has not

2629
01:58:15,796 --> 01:58:19,800
told us these things took place. I

2630
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:20,801
spoke to them today and we

2631
01:58:20,801 --> 01:58:22,803
went over in detail things that we

2632
01:58:22,803 --> 01:58:23,804
would like. When there is

2633
01:58:23,804 --> 01:58:26,807
an incident with a shouting match

2634
01:58:26,807 --> 01:58:28,809
or anything where somebody needs to

2635
01:58:28,809 --> 01:58:30,811
be ejected from the school

2636
01:58:30,811 --> 01:58:34,815
or fields we need to be notified whether

2637
01:58:34,815 --> 01:58:37,818
a simple email or text message that

2638
01:58:37,818 --> 01:58:38,819
something has happened . If the

2639
01:58:38,819 --> 01:58:40,821
police are called we should be notified.

2640
01:58:40,821 --> 01:58:41,822
I could not --

2641
01:58:41,822 --> 01:58:43,824
should not find out from a parent

2642
01:58:43,824 --> 01:58:46,793
passing me in the park.

2643
01:58:46,793 --> 01:58:47,794
I should already know.

2644
01:58:47,794 --> 01:58:49,794
>>

2645
01:58:49,796 --> 01:58:52,796
maybe the city should have

2646
01:58:52,799 --> 01:58:53,800
a

2647
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:55,802
representative to watch what goes on.

2648
01:58:55,802 --> 01:58:58,805
I don't know. It is difficult to

2649
01:58:58,805 --> 01:59:00,807
say a coach shouted out a parent

2650
01:59:00,807 --> 01:59:01,808
so we suspended the coach for a game.

2651
01:59:01,808 --> 01:59:03,808
I

2652
01:59:04,811 --> 01:59:06,811
don't know.

2653
01:59:10,817 --> 01:59:12,819
the most disturbing thing that

2654
01:59:12,819 --> 01:59:15,822
has occurred. In a meeting with commissioner shrouder,

2655
01:59:15,822 --> 01:59:16,823
he believes the current leadership

2656
01:59:16,823 --> 01:59:19,223
of the program adds

2657
01:59:19,793 --> 01:59:20,794
no value

2658
01:59:20,794 --> 01:59:21,795
to the program.

2659
01:59:21,795 --> 01:59:22,796
>> those were your

2660
01:59:22,796 --> 01:59:23,797
words.

2661
01:59:23,797 --> 01:59:25,797
>> those were

2662
01:59:25,799 --> 01:59:28,199
your words. We are

2663
01:59:28,802 --> 01:59:31,802
going to do our best

2664
01:59:31,805 --> 01:59:34,808
to work as we were proposed to,

2665
01:59:34,808 --> 01:59:36,810
to make this new agreement work

2666
01:59:36,810 --> 01:59:37,811
and work together in a better fashion.

2667
01:59:37,811 --> 01:59:39,811
if

2668
01:59:39,813 --> 01:59:40,814
at any time this commission feels

2669
01:59:40,814 --> 01:59:42,814
we are

2670
01:59:43,817 --> 01:59:44,818
not providing an adequate service

2671
01:59:44,818 --> 01:59:45,819
anymore

2672
01:59:45,819 --> 01:59:46,820
and you want to go somewhere else

2673
01:59:46,820 --> 01:59:49,220
tell us and we

2674
01:59:49,823 --> 01:59:52,793
will find a way to wind down the

2675
01:59:52,793 --> 01:59:54,793
programs. Otherwise

2676
01:59:55,796 --> 01:59:57,796
this is

2677
01:59:58,799 --> 02:00:01,802
in four or six weeks. We are

2678
02:00:01,802 --> 02:00:03,804
spending money, we are

2679
02:00:03,804 --> 02:00:04,805
trying to make a ton of changes. We

2680
02:00:04,805 --> 02:00:06,805
have bank

2681
02:00:07,808 --> 02:00:09,808
statements, audits, accusations,

2682
02:00:10,811 --> 02:00:13,811
telling people not to use

2683
02:00:13,814 --> 02:00:15,814
rec track .

2684
02:00:16,817 --> 02:00:17,818
we are

2685
02:00:17,818 --> 02:00:21,822
currently in this for the long run,

2686
02:00:21,822 --> 02:00:22,823
we want to make it work. Some of you

2687
02:00:22,823 --> 02:00:23,824
know some of

2688
02:00:23,824 --> 02:00:25,792
this. I don't think any of you know

2689
02:00:25,792 --> 02:00:28,795
all of it. That is where we

2690
02:00:28,795 --> 02:00:31,195
are as of today.

2691
02:00:31,798 --> 02:00:33,798
let's hope

2692
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:34,801
we can move forward in a friendly

2693
02:00:34,801 --> 02:00:35,802
and cooperative manner.

2694
02:00:35,802 --> 02:00:37,802
>>

2695
02:00:37,804 --> 02:00:40,807
I would like to respond to some

2696
02:00:40,807 --> 02:00:42,807
of that.

2697
02:00:43,810 --> 02:00:44,811
I was going to try to be positive

2698
02:00:44,811 --> 02:00:45,812
suggest

2699
02:00:45,812 --> 02:00:46,813
to give a small example. Under the

2700
02:00:46,813 --> 02:00:48,813
agreement adopted

2701
02:00:48,815 --> 02:00:49,816
when we left the workshop it said

2702
02:00:49,816 --> 02:00:52,816
they would be subject to

2703
02:00:52,819 --> 02:00:54,821
the same as us. They had a

2704
02:00:54,821 --> 02:00:58,421
concern when the language came out

2705
02:00:58,792 --> 02:00:59,793
that anybody could request your text

2706
02:00:59,793 --> 02:01:00,794
message

2707
02:01:00,794 --> 02:01:01,795
and anything . So through the manager

2708
02:01:01,795 --> 02:01:03,795
they

2709
02:01:04,798 --> 02:01:05,799
were pushing to limit that language.

2710
02:01:05,799 --> 02:01:07,799
the manager

2711
02:01:07,801 --> 02:01:10,804
asked me and I said I do not agree. Finally,

2712
02:01:10,804 --> 02:01:13,204
against my better judgment

2713
02:01:13,807 --> 02:01:16,810
the manager convinced me to say financial records.

2714
02:01:16,810 --> 02:01:19,810
same public records laws as

2715
02:01:19,813 --> 02:01:22,813
us. Of course, three agreement

2716
02:01:22,816 --> 02:01:25,819
is executed and I ask for public records

2717
02:01:25,819 --> 02:01:28,819
and I am told no.

2718
02:01:28,822 --> 02:01:30,824
so then I have to go to the meeting.

2719
02:01:30,824 --> 02:01:31,825
when I go to the meeting amongst all

2720
02:01:31,825 --> 02:01:34,795
the other things that happened,

2721
02:01:34,795 --> 02:01:37,795
two sports pass out budgets

2722
02:01:37,798 --> 02:01:41,398
. I am looking at the budget.

2723
02:01:43,804 --> 02:01:46,804
they say don't take pictures.

2724
02:01:46,807 --> 02:01:48,807
they vote

2725
02:01:49,810 --> 02:01:51,810
on these

2726
02:01:52,813 --> 02:01:55,816
and want them back . While they argue

2727
02:01:55,816 --> 02:01:58,819
with me I hear this noise in the background

2728
02:01:58,819 --> 02:02:01,822
going the whole time. It clicks.

2729
02:02:01,822 --> 02:02:04,825
I said, are you shredding documents

2730
02:02:04,825 --> 02:02:07,794
. I said, why would you.

2731
02:02:07,794 --> 02:02:10,797
they vote, they pass the budget. They

2732
02:02:10,797 --> 02:02:14,397
vote on them and shred it .

2733
02:02:16,803 --> 02:02:19,806
>> that is not the entire story.

2734
02:02:19,806 --> 02:02:21,806
>> maybe

2735
02:02:22,809 --> 02:02:24,811
appointive information. Is at

2736
02:02:24,811 --> 02:02:25,812
least a copy provided in the minutes

2737
02:02:25,812 --> 02:02:27,812
so that way

2738
02:02:27,814 --> 02:02:28,815
if joe public wants to look at it

2739
02:02:28,815 --> 02:02:30,815
they have it.

2740
02:02:31,818 --> 02:02:34,218
>> it is open for

2741
02:02:34,821 --> 02:02:36,821
public ex--- inspection.

2742
02:02:37,824 --> 02:02:39,793
>> I told you that. >>

2743
02:02:39,793 --> 02:02:40,794
I'm concerned. The investigator from

2744
02:02:40,794 --> 02:02:42,794
the state

2745
02:02:43,797 --> 02:02:44,798
said they asked for minutes and you

2746
02:02:44,798 --> 02:02:46,798
had no minutes

2747
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:49,200
for many board meetings.

2748
02:02:49,803 --> 02:02:52,203
>> I cannot tell you

2749
02:02:52,806 --> 02:02:55,809
what has happened with the past president.

2750
02:02:55,809 --> 02:02:59,813
under my leadership minutes are being taken,

2751
02:02:59,813 --> 02:03:02,213
reports are being kept.

2752
02:03:03,817 --> 02:03:05,819
>> why would you be allowed to have

2753
02:03:05,819 --> 02:03:06,820
a budget that

2754
02:03:06,820 --> 02:03:08,822
is in the minutes but I cannot take

2755
02:03:08,822 --> 02:03:09,823
a picture.

2756
02:03:09,823 --> 02:03:10,824
>> that has been

2757
02:03:10,824 --> 02:03:11,825
our policy. You want a copy of it,

2758
02:03:11,825 --> 02:03:13,794
ask for it through the

2759
02:03:13,794 --> 02:03:14,795
channels. Right now all of the requests

2760
02:03:14,795 --> 02:03:16,795
are

2761
02:03:17,798 --> 02:03:18,799
coming from you .

2762
02:03:18,799 --> 02:03:20,799
>> remember

2763
02:03:20,801 --> 02:03:23,201
we had this discussion.

2764
02:03:23,804 --> 02:03:24,805
>> you told me I'm

2765
02:03:24,805 --> 02:03:26,807
the only one that complains. We had

2766
02:03:26,807 --> 02:03:28,809
this discussion. The role

2767
02:03:28,809 --> 02:03:29,810
readopted said all financial records

2768
02:03:29,810 --> 02:03:30,811
shall be open for

2769
02:03:30,811 --> 02:03:32,813
public inspection pursuant to the

2770
02:03:32,813 --> 02:03:34,813
same standards.

2771
02:03:37,818 --> 02:03:38,819
that doesn't mean the city. Anyone

2772
02:03:38,819 --> 02:03:39,820
from the public can

2773
02:03:39,820 --> 02:03:41,822
request it. I told you there is an

2774
02:03:41,822 --> 02:03:42,823
organization called

2775
02:03:42,823 --> 02:03:44,825
optimist international that post their

2776
02:03:44,825 --> 02:03:47,225
budget online so I

2777
02:03:47,794 --> 02:03:48,795
don't know why it has to be

2778
02:03:48,795 --> 02:03:50,797
secretive. The assistant director

2779
02:03:50,797 --> 02:03:52,799
was at the meeting. Where

2780
02:03:52,799 --> 02:03:53,800
they not shredding the will time.

2781
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:55,800
>> shredding the

2782
02:03:56,803 --> 02:03:58,803
whole time.

2783
02:03:58,805 --> 02:03:59,806
>> the copy is maintained for the

2784
02:03:59,806 --> 02:04:01,806
public in the

2785
02:04:02,809 --> 02:04:03,810
record.

2786
02:04:03,810 --> 02:04:04,811
>> as long as there's a copy

2787
02:04:04,811 --> 02:04:05,812
maintained you don't need 40 copies.

2788
02:04:05,812 --> 02:04:07,812
>> I can't take

2789
02:04:07,814 --> 02:04:08,815
a picture.

2790
02:04:08,815 --> 02:04:09,816
>> I do not agree with

2791
02:04:09,816 --> 02:04:11,816
the photo.

2792
02:04:11,818 --> 02:04:14,821
I am going to agree with you

2793
02:04:14,821 --> 02:04:17,824
on the photo but I'm also to agree

2794
02:04:17,824 --> 02:04:20,224
that a copy of

2795
02:04:20,794 --> 02:04:23,797
the budget in the minutes works. Anyone

2796
02:04:23,797 --> 02:04:27,397
that wants it can have it.

2797
02:04:29,803 --> 02:04:31,803
>>

2798
02:04:31,805 --> 02:04:32,806
I did not come here to argue. I'm

2799
02:04:32,806 --> 02:04:34,806
not

2800
02:04:35,809 --> 02:04:37,809
arguing for anyone.

2801
02:04:38,812 --> 02:04:40,812
we just listened

2802
02:04:41,815 --> 02:04:44,818
to pete give us a list

2803
02:04:44,818 --> 02:04:47,821
of things he and his current board

2804
02:04:47,821 --> 02:04:49,821
or current

2805
02:04:49,823 --> 02:04:53,423
people are working on , things that

2806
02:04:53,794 --> 02:04:55,794
they have accomplished

2807
02:04:55,796 --> 02:04:56,797
in the past couple of months to try

2808
02:04:56,797 --> 02:04:58,797
to

2809
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,200
bring everything up to

2810
02:05:02,803 --> 02:05:05,806
a standard that is what we are

2811
02:05:05,806 --> 02:05:06,807
looking for. Those are my words and

2812
02:05:06,807 --> 02:05:08,807
I'm

2813
02:05:08,809 --> 02:05:11,209
paraphrasing. First, thank you.

2814
02:05:11,812 --> 02:05:14,815
for what you have done so far

2815
02:05:14,815 --> 02:05:16,817
because there is nothing

2816
02:05:16,817 --> 02:05:17,818
wrong with saying thank you for attempting

2817
02:05:17,818 --> 02:05:19,818
to do right.

2818
02:05:20,821 --> 02:05:23,821
it is not done. They

2819
02:05:23,824 --> 02:05:25,792
are not saying it is done but it's

2820
02:05:25,792 --> 02:05:26,793
a step in the right direction. I also

2821
02:05:26,793 --> 02:05:28,795
want to clarify I had

2822
02:05:28,795 --> 02:05:31,795
a conversation. Yesterday I believe

2823
02:05:32,799 --> 02:05:34,799
because in

2824
02:05:35,802 --> 02:05:37,804
their defense or an

2825
02:05:37,804 --> 02:05:38,805
softballs defense, I've gotten complaints

2826
02:05:38,805 --> 02:05:41,205
that at the time

2827
02:05:41,808 --> 02:05:43,808
three

2828
02:05:44,811 --> 02:05:47,814
forms of photo I.d. Were needed to register.

2829
02:05:47,814 --> 02:05:49,816
three forms of I.d. An

2830
02:05:49,816 --> 02:05:50,817
electric bill, water bill, drivers

2831
02:05:50,817 --> 02:05:52,817
license

2832
02:05:53,820 --> 02:05:55,820
to say

2833
02:05:55,822 --> 02:05:56,823
your cooper city resident. I said

2834
02:05:56,823 --> 02:05:59,223
to the city manager,

2835
02:05:59,793 --> 02:06:00,794
I understand what we are trying to

2836
02:06:00,794 --> 02:06:01,795
do.

2837
02:06:01,795 --> 02:06:02,796
we want to make sure the people that

2838
02:06:02,796 --> 02:06:05,196
are actually residence our

2839
02:06:05,799 --> 02:06:07,799
residents, not people

2840
02:06:07,801 --> 02:06:08,802
registered at the address that we

2841
02:06:08,802 --> 02:06:11,202
know is bogus. But

2842
02:06:11,805 --> 02:06:14,808
I said to the city manager

2843
02:06:14,808 --> 02:06:16,810
if I go to

2844
02:06:16,810 --> 02:06:17,811
the city clerk office and try to get

2845
02:06:17,811 --> 02:06:19,811
a passport,

2846
02:06:20,814 --> 02:06:21,815
a united

2847
02:06:21,815 --> 02:06:23,817
states document that will allow me

2848
02:06:23,817 --> 02:06:26,817
to travel outside of the

2849
02:06:26,820 --> 02:06:29,823
united states. I only need if

2850
02:06:29,823 --> 02:06:32,793
I remember correctly one form of photo I.d.

2851
02:06:32,793 --> 02:06:35,796
in addition to the passport photo.

2852
02:06:35,796 --> 02:06:38,196
I need one form

2853
02:06:38,799 --> 02:06:41,802
of I.d. I asked the city manager.

2854
02:06:41,802 --> 02:06:44,805
they are having problems with people navigating

2855
02:06:44,805 --> 02:06:46,807
the website because it

2856
02:06:46,807 --> 02:06:47,808
is asking for three forms of I.d.

2857
02:06:47,808 --> 02:06:49,808
to register for

2858
02:06:49,810 --> 02:06:50,811
girl softball which in my opinion

2859
02:06:50,811 --> 02:06:52,813
was a little excessive.

2860
02:06:52,813 --> 02:06:56,817
I said to the city manager can we

2861
02:06:56,817 --> 02:06:57,818
change the wording on the registration

2862
02:06:57,818 --> 02:06:59,818
to say

2863
02:06:59,820 --> 02:07:01,822
you will be asked for your

2864
02:07:01,822 --> 02:07:02,823
drivers license, form of a photo I.d.

2865
02:07:02,823 --> 02:07:05,223
showing you are a

2866
02:07:05,792 --> 02:07:08,792
cooper city resident and somehow

2867
02:07:08,795 --> 02:07:11,798
, leave it up to jacob to figure

2868
02:07:11,798 --> 02:07:12,799
out the language, right if we need

2869
02:07:12,799 --> 02:07:14,799
additional proof

2870
02:07:14,801 --> 02:07:17,804
we are entitled to ask for it

2871
02:07:17,804 --> 02:07:20,804
before everything is done. He

2872
02:07:20,807 --> 02:07:23,207
said, logical. Good, done,

2873
02:07:23,810 --> 02:07:26,210
I also asked because

2874
02:07:29,816 --> 02:07:30,817
the commissioner of softball is not

2875
02:07:30,817 --> 02:07:31,818
getting any

2876
02:07:31,818 --> 02:07:32,819
reports. I said can we make it so

2877
02:07:32,819 --> 02:07:35,819
he gets a report every

2878
02:07:35,822 --> 02:07:37,822
two or three

2879
02:07:37,824 --> 02:07:38,825
ditch days. Apparently josh was already

2880
02:07:38,825 --> 02:07:41,795
on it and has it

2881
02:07:41,795 --> 02:07:44,195
somehow in the system.

2882
02:07:44,798 --> 02:07:47,198
they are slowly working

2883
02:07:47,801 --> 02:07:50,804
on their end. We are working

2884
02:07:50,804 --> 02:07:54,808
on our end. Give them breathing space.

2885
02:07:54,808 --> 02:07:56,808
and you,

2886
02:07:57,811 --> 02:07:59,811
kudos to you

2887
02:08:00,814 --> 02:08:03,817
for agreeing to work together to

2888
02:08:03,817 --> 02:08:05,817
come to

2889
02:08:07,821 --> 02:08:09,823
a better policy, better procedures

2890
02:08:09,823 --> 02:08:10,824
that will be great for

2891
02:08:10,824 --> 02:08:12,793
everyone. Great for both of you for

2892
02:08:12,793 --> 02:08:14,793
agreeing to that.

2893
02:08:15,796 --> 02:08:16,797
>> difficulty with the

2894
02:08:16,797 --> 02:08:18,799
rec track at the moment I believe

2895
02:08:18,799 --> 02:08:20,799
is

2896
02:08:21,802 --> 02:08:24,202
we are changing 30 years

2897
02:08:24,805 --> 02:08:26,805
of habit .

2898
02:08:26,807 --> 02:08:27,808
telling everybody sign up at the optimist

2899
02:08:27,808 --> 02:08:29,808
club

2900
02:08:30,811 --> 02:08:31,812
and you are in.

2901
02:08:31,812 --> 02:08:33,814
our softball commissioner has sent

2902
02:08:33,814 --> 02:08:35,814
emails

2903
02:08:35,816 --> 02:08:36,817
and everything out. It is hard to

2904
02:08:36,817 --> 02:08:38,817
change

2905
02:08:39,820 --> 02:08:42,823
human habits. We are working to get

2906
02:08:42,823 --> 02:08:44,825
everybody to do it .

2907
02:08:44,825 --> 02:08:45,792
it does not happen in the snap of

2908
02:08:45,792 --> 02:08:47,792
a finger.

2909
02:08:48,795 --> 02:08:50,797
josh is working with us to

2910
02:08:50,797 --> 02:08:51,798
try to make it easier but it's not

2911
02:08:51,798 --> 02:08:52,799
because

2912
02:08:52,799 --> 02:08:56,803
we are telling people not to do it

2913
02:08:56,803 --> 02:08:57,804
. It is hard to change the habit of

2914
02:08:57,804 --> 02:08:59,804
so

2915
02:09:00,807 --> 02:09:01,808
many years.

2916
02:09:01,808 --> 02:09:02,809
>> I believe the

2917
02:09:02,809 --> 02:09:03,810
operations to them. I just want to

2918
02:09:03,810 --> 02:09:05,810
know, do you

2919
02:09:06,813 --> 02:09:08,813
guys agree

2920
02:09:11,818 --> 02:09:12,819
that the financial records are subject to

2921
02:09:12,819 --> 02:09:13,820
the same standards

2922
02:09:13,820 --> 02:09:14,821
as public records.

2923
02:09:14,821 --> 02:09:15,822
>> I will tell you

2924
02:09:15,822 --> 02:09:16,823
I have gone

2925
02:09:16,823 --> 02:09:19,823
through perplexity and everything about

2926
02:09:21,795 --> 02:09:23,795
our bank payments

2927
02:09:24,798 --> 02:09:25,799
part of standard

2928
02:09:25,799 --> 02:09:27,801
financial disclosure statements. It

2929
02:09:27,801 --> 02:09:30,801
says no and everything I've

2930
02:09:30,804 --> 02:09:32,804
researched. Everything.

2931
02:09:33,807 --> 02:09:36,810
I am willing to work with the commission.

2932
02:09:36,810 --> 02:09:39,810
we are not hiding stuff.

2933
02:09:39,813 --> 02:09:40,814
I stood up here and told

2934
02:09:40,814 --> 02:09:42,816
you individually, I will tell you

2935
02:09:42,816 --> 02:09:45,216
I am unable to

2936
02:09:45,819 --> 02:09:47,819
find it out

2937
02:09:48,822 --> 02:09:50,824
of every source I can go to

2938
02:09:50,824 --> 02:09:51,825
that supposedly gives us all the answers

2939
02:09:51,825 --> 02:09:53,825
today they

2940
02:09:54,795 --> 02:09:57,798
all say it is not the standard

2941
02:09:57,798 --> 02:09:58,799
part of

2942
02:09:58,799 --> 02:09:59,800
financial disclosures.

2943
02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:01,800
>> just fyi

2944
02:10:03,804 --> 02:10:06,807
and jacob tell me if I'm wrong,

2945
02:10:06,807 --> 02:10:08,807
as a 501(c)(3),

2946
02:10:09,810 --> 02:10:12,813
and I believe I gave someone this explanation.

2947
02:10:12,813 --> 02:10:15,816
I can live in california and

2948
02:10:15,816 --> 02:10:17,818
pick you out of a hat and say,

2949
02:10:17,818 --> 02:10:21,822
cooper city optimist I want your financials.

2950
02:10:21,822 --> 02:10:22,823
because you are a 501(c)(3) you are

2951
02:10:22,823 --> 02:10:23,824
governed to

2952
02:10:23,824 --> 02:10:24,825
give them to me. If you say no I go

2953
02:10:24,825 --> 02:10:26,825
to

2954
02:10:27,794 --> 02:10:30,797
the state and say cooper city optimist

2955
02:10:30,797 --> 02:10:33,197
501(c)(3) is not compliant.

2956
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:35,802
the state will say yes you do

2957
02:10:35,802 --> 02:10:36,803
because if you don't you lose your

2958
02:10:36,803 --> 02:10:38,803
501(c)(3).

2959
02:10:38,805 --> 02:10:41,808
>> we are not arguing that point.

2960
02:10:41,808 --> 02:10:42,809
a financial is a bank statement.

2961
02:10:42,809 --> 02:10:43,810
>>

2962
02:10:43,810 --> 02:10:45,810
it

2963
02:10:45,812 --> 02:10:47,814
is not. I'm willing

2964
02:10:47,814 --> 02:10:48,815
to do it because I'm not going to

2965
02:10:48,815 --> 02:10:50,815
hide anything from

2966
02:10:50,817 --> 02:10:51,818
you guys.

2967
02:10:51,818 --> 02:10:52,819
>> this is the thing. I

2968
02:10:52,819 --> 02:10:53,820
just want

2969
02:10:53,820 --> 02:10:57,824
to clarify. It's a lot of miscommunication.

2970
02:10:57,824 --> 02:10:58,825
please answer this question. I want

2971
02:10:58,825 --> 02:10:59,793
to

2972
02:10:59,793 --> 02:11:00,794
read you exactly what the language

2973
02:11:00,794 --> 02:11:02,794
says.

2974
02:11:03,797 --> 02:11:05,799
the intent of the provision is

2975
02:11:05,799 --> 02:11:06,800
to ensure that any have no financial

2976
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:08,800
records shall be

2977
02:11:08,802 --> 02:11:12,806
retained for not less than five years

2978
02:11:12,806 --> 02:11:13,807
for public inspection pursuant to

2979
02:11:13,807 --> 02:11:15,807
the

2980
02:11:15,809 --> 02:11:17,809
same standards .

2981
02:11:18,812 --> 02:11:21,815
that is what it says. A bank statement,

2982
02:11:21,815 --> 02:11:24,815
is that a financial record.

2983
02:11:24,818 --> 02:11:27,818
>> generally speaking the bank statements

2984
02:11:29,823 --> 02:11:30,824
.

2985
02:11:30,824 --> 02:11:31,825
>> if somebody walked off the streets

2986
02:11:31,825 --> 02:11:33,794
and asked for

2987
02:11:33,794 --> 02:11:35,796
a copy of bank statements we can

2988
02:11:35,796 --> 02:11:36,797
mark out the account number but we

2989
02:11:36,797 --> 02:11:38,799
have to produce it.

2990
02:11:38,799 --> 02:11:42,803
are you agreeing to the same standards.

2991
02:11:42,803 --> 02:11:45,806
>> I am willing to give you the

2992
02:11:45,806 --> 02:11:46,807
bank statement.

2993
02:11:46,807 --> 02:11:48,807
>> any person.

2994
02:11:48,809 --> 02:11:51,812
when I asked for it and you

2995
02:11:51,812 --> 02:11:52,813
said no.

2996
02:11:52,813 --> 02:11:53,814
>> we did not feel it was

2997
02:11:53,814 --> 02:11:56,814
part of the financial statements.

2998
02:11:56,817 --> 02:11:57,818
they were not part of financials.

2999
02:11:57,818 --> 02:11:59,818
>> we are

3000
02:12:00,821 --> 02:12:02,823
in agreement that it is .

3001
02:12:02,823 --> 02:12:05,823
>> look it up. 501(c)(3) organization

3002
02:12:06,793 --> 02:12:08,793
>>

3003
02:12:09,796 --> 02:12:12,196
a 501(c)(3) is generally

3004
02:12:12,799 --> 02:12:15,802
not required to file bank statements.

3005
02:12:15,802 --> 02:12:16,803
there are financial filings they are

3006
02:12:16,803 --> 02:12:18,803
required

3007
02:12:18,805 --> 02:12:21,805
to file. The agreement subjects

3008
02:12:26,813 --> 02:12:27,814
the optimist club to chapter 119 which

3009
02:12:27,814 --> 02:12:29,814
is more detailed.

3010
02:12:30,817 --> 02:12:33,817
the city under the agreement

3011
02:12:33,820 --> 02:12:34,821
not under the internal revenue code

3012
02:12:34,821 --> 02:12:36,821
or other

3013
02:12:36,823 --> 02:12:39,793
federal law have agreed to provide

3014
02:12:39,793 --> 02:12:40,794
that information in accordance with

3015
02:12:40,794 --> 02:12:42,794
state law.

3016
02:12:45,799 --> 02:12:47,799
>>

3017
02:12:47,801 --> 02:12:48,802
I just want to clarify one more thing.

3018
02:12:48,802 --> 02:12:50,802
the financial statement

3019
02:12:51,805 --> 02:12:53,805
does not include

3020
02:12:54,808 --> 02:12:56,808
bank statements.

3021
02:12:57,811 --> 02:13:02,110
the bank statement is the financial record.

3022
02:13:03,817 --> 02:13:05,817
>>

3023
02:13:06,820 --> 02:13:08,820
yes. He agreed.

3024
02:13:12,793 --> 02:13:15,796
I know without a doubt knowing you

3025
02:13:15,796 --> 02:13:18,799
you will get one of your friends to

3026
02:13:18,799 --> 02:13:20,801
walk in and say I want a bank

3027
02:13:20,801 --> 02:13:24,805
statement and they will give it to them.

3028
02:13:24,805 --> 02:13:25,806
>> you say that but they said no to

3029
02:13:25,806 --> 02:13:27,806
me and I

3030
02:13:27,808 --> 02:13:32,800
had to go to the board meeting.

3031
02:13:33,814 --> 02:13:35,814
>>

3032
02:13:37,818 --> 02:13:38,819
please understand

3033
02:13:38,819 --> 02:13:39,820
that I'm confused right now because

3034
02:13:39,820 --> 02:13:40,821
I feel like lisa is defending you

3035
02:13:40,821 --> 02:13:42,821
and

3036
02:13:43,824 --> 02:13:44,825
there's no need on

3037
02:13:44,825 --> 02:13:46,793
your side. It seems like you have

3038
02:13:46,793 --> 02:13:49,193
clearly outlined where they

3039
02:13:49,796 --> 02:13:51,796
are at.

3040
02:13:54,801 --> 02:13:56,803
I will say from the perspective everything

3041
02:13:56,803 --> 02:13:58,805
you've outlined, thank you. I would

3042
02:13:58,805 --> 02:14:00,805
like to know

3043
02:14:01,808 --> 02:14:04,808
I want to know what

3044
02:14:04,811 --> 02:14:06,811
the hurdles are.

3045
02:14:07,814 --> 02:14:09,816
I will also say

3046
02:14:09,816 --> 02:14:14,160
in defense to my colleague in this

3047
02:14:16,823 --> 02:14:18,825
individuals here that represent

3048
02:14:18,825 --> 02:14:22,796
the city, they are why you came back

3049
02:14:22,796 --> 02:14:23,797
after many years

3050
02:14:23,797 --> 02:14:25,799
of being retired was because there

3051
02:14:25,799 --> 02:14:27,799
was issues.

3052
02:14:28,802 --> 02:14:30,802
I

3053
02:14:30,804 --> 02:14:34,808
think that when there is a rejection

3054
02:14:34,808 --> 02:14:37,811
to topics that are outlined it

3055
02:14:37,811 --> 02:14:39,811
brings up concern .

3056
02:14:40,814 --> 02:14:43,214
you clarifying and saying

3057
02:14:43,817 --> 02:14:45,817
that

3058
02:14:46,820 --> 02:14:48,820
on the record .

3059
02:14:50,824 --> 02:14:52,793
I hope we get everything squared away

3060
02:14:52,793 --> 02:14:54,793
for you.

3061
02:15:01,802 --> 02:15:03,802
>>

3062
02:15:03,804 --> 02:15:08,604
I am not defending anyone. I am clarifying.

3063
02:15:13,814 --> 02:15:15,814
>> no other comments.

3064
02:15:16,817 --> 02:15:18,817
>> motion to adjourn .