1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:21,710 Good afternoon. Welcome to the Parks Commission. Work session on September 3rd, and we'll go around for introductions. Patty Scott, I'm a part commissioner. Jared Schmidt. I'm a part commissioner. Jamie Faraday. Greg Hamlet. 2 00:00:24,690 --> 00:00:30,190 And doesn't look like we have, we have a couple people online. Nope. All right. 3 00:00:30,190 --> 00:00:33,590 All right, we'll move into public comment. 4 00:00:35,190 --> 00:00:36,030 Is there any, 5 00:00:50,990 --> 00:00:52,510 all right, Heidi? 6 00:00:52,910 --> 00:00:53,090 Yes. 7 00:00:54,230 --> 00:00:54,610 Hi. 8 00:00:55,010 --> 00:00:55,970 Mingus Peplball. 9 00:00:56,630 --> 00:01:00,810 Okay, so I heard it was on the docket anyways, so I guess I'm just standing up here to 10 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:05,990 tell you guys that I'm here to like wanting to get the courts, like half the courts up at 11 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:11,990 the Mingus Park, converted into or re-designated into the Peplball Court, into a couple or three 12 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:16,790 pickle ball courts. So I guess we're on a docket though already. So I'm gonna sit 13 00:01:16,790 --> 00:01:27,570 back down. Thank you. All right Eric bike lanes. Yes that's me. I can't read you're 14 00:01:27,570 --> 00:01:31,410 writing for your last names. Oh yeah sorry that's typical for me. 15 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:34,910 Yeah so Eric 16 00:01:34,910 --> 00:01:42,650 who's way higher everybody. I just wanted to take a read a letter okay that it's 17 00:01:42,650 --> 00:01:47,270 It's going to take me a couple of minutes, not super long, but it's only one page actually. 18 00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:51,590 And it's from our community by shop. 19 00:01:51,790 --> 00:01:52,710 And I don't have it signed. 20 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:58,890 This is a letter addressed to the City Council, the Mayor, City Manager, and the Public Works 21 00:01:58,890 --> 00:01:59,170 Director. 22 00:01:59,870 --> 00:02:05,330 And so I'll be signing, well, our board members will be signing this letter, excuse me, tomorrow 23 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:06,390 and I'll be delivering it. 24 00:02:06,390 --> 00:02:32,410 So, this letter says Front Street Community Bike Works and the cycling community we represent are writing to express serious concerns regarding the city's ongoing failure to adequately provide and fund bicycle infrastructure consistent with Oregon's Bicycle Bill or S366.514. 25 00:02:32,410 --> 00:02:38,730 So if you don't know that's the bicycle bill, it's been around for 50 years started in 1972. 26 00:02:39,770 --> 00:02:52,150 For more than 50 years Oregon laws required that bicycle and pedestrian facilities be given meaningful consideration in the planning, construction and reconstruction and improvement of public roadways. 27 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:59,670 The bicycle bill reflects the state's clear policy that transportation systems should safely accommodate all users, 28 00:02:59,670 --> 00:03:06,730 not solely motor vehicles. Despite this legal mandate, our community remains 29 00:03:06,730 --> 00:03:10,790 without safe and connected bicycle facilities. I think we all know that. 30 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:16,250 Numerous road improvement projects have been completed recently, including the 31 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:20,930 Forest Street redevelopment, two, three years ago that was, Coos Village 32 00:03:20,930 --> 00:03:27,850 Development on the waterfront, Ocean On-Go, the ongoing Ocean Boulevard housing 33 00:03:27,850 --> 00:03:35,150 development. While major gaps in the Bicycle Network persist, forcing cyclists to travel 34 00:03:35,150 --> 00:03:39,570 in unsafe conditions or for-go bicycle transportation altogether. 35 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:47,850 FSCBW, Front Street Community Bike Works, coordinated a modest bike lane proposal, Front Street 36 00:03:47,850 --> 00:03:51,650 to Mingus Sheros, you probably all familiar with that, through the City Council and Parks 37 00:03:51,650 --> 00:03:57,290 Commission, only to have the proposal rejected after more than two years of effort. These 38 00:03:57,290 --> 00:04:03,450 These deficiencies, all totaled, undermine public safety, transportation equity, environmental 39 00:04:03,450 --> 00:04:07,550 goals, and demonstrate a failure to meet the intent of Oregon law. 40 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:13,650 The city's failure to make reasonable investments in bicycle infrastructure raises important 41 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:20,570 questions regarding compliance with Oregon's bicycle bill law and related state transportation 42 00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:21,330 policies. 43 00:04:22,090 --> 00:04:29,190 Residents are entitled to know how to require bike-ped funds that are come to the city every year 44 00:04:29,190 --> 00:04:35,330 are being allocated and why bicycle facilities have not been provided where they appear warranted. 45 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:40,410 Accordingly, Front Street Community Bike Works and the cycling community we represent 46 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:42,790 requests that the city do the following. 47 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:49,970 Explain how the city evaluates compliance with Oregon's bicycle bill during project planning and implementation. 48 00:04:51,530 --> 00:04:56,950 A count for why bicycle facilities were omitted from the 4th Street Reconstruction, the 49 00:04:56,950 --> 00:04:59,850 Cougs Village Development and Ocean Boulevard Housing 50 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,940 And the legal or engineering basis for these decisions. Commit to incorporating safe bicycle 51 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:13,840 facilities into future roadway projects whenever required or appropriate under state law. 52 00:05:14,380 --> 00:05:21,480 In particular, commit to a construction of a buffered bike lane on ocean boulevard that 53 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,060 provides a safe riding environment along this important connection between empire and downtown 54 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:34,200 Cougs Bay. In addition, we ask that bike and pedestrian friendly crossing infrastructure 55 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:40,360 be installed on Bayshore, Northbound Highway 101, at Market Street, and Alder Street. 56 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:47,200 So we are urging the city to treat this matter with the seriousness it deserves and to work 57 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:53,420 honestly and collaboratively with residents and the cycling community to achieve full compliance 58 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:58,380 with Oregon's long standing commitment to bicycle and pedestrian transportation. 59 00:05:59,240 --> 00:05:59,620 That's a lot. 60 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,400 And so that's the end. 61 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:06,240 And that's what I wanted to present to you all. 62 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,340 I'll be turning this into the city, I guess maybe Monday next week. 63 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:18,780 So I'm happy to address any questions or any other thoughts if you want or I'll just sit down. 64 00:06:21,130 --> 00:06:28,780 That was going to be my question who's going to present this at the Council and we are 65 00:06:28,780 --> 00:06:31,640 going to be discussing related things, 66 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:39,390 this meeting, but yeah, with you. 67 00:06:39,770 --> 00:06:40,490 Yeah, thank you. 68 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:40,770 Yeah. 69 00:06:41,210 --> 00:06:46,470 So like I said, we have a board meeting tomorrow night and I'm planning to get all our board members 70 00:06:46,470 --> 00:06:48,630 are going to sign the letter and then we'll deliver to City Hall. 71 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:50,430 So that'll be Monday. 72 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:52,190 this coming Monday, right? 73 00:06:53,170 --> 00:06:53,970 Thank you. 74 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:56,530 This Monday is Sunday. 75 00:06:57,010 --> 00:06:58,410 Labor Day, okay. Tuesday. 76 00:06:59,350 --> 00:07:00,190 Tuesday. Tuesday. 77 00:07:00,770 --> 00:07:01,470 Tuesday. Tuesday. 78 00:07:01,470 --> 00:07:03,030 Monday is Labor Day, holiday. 79 00:07:03,470 --> 00:07:05,510 I won't be here Tuesday. 80 00:07:05,890 --> 00:07:06,830 It'll be next week sometimes. 81 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:09,190 Maybe when you're at your earliest convenience. 82 00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:10,670 Yeah. Am I or thank you, Greg? 83 00:07:10,910 --> 00:07:12,110 My earliest convenience, so. 84 00:07:12,610 --> 00:07:13,110 Thank you. 85 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,760 All right, moving on to our work session topics. 86 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:18,580 The first one. 87 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,900 Can I say something I was a little late to say? 88 00:07:21,980 --> 00:07:22,500 Oh, sure. 89 00:07:23,020 --> 00:07:24,780 Thank you, I'm sorry, I was late. 90 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,380 My name's Dean Lundy. 91 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,340 I have a bike shop in Charleston. 92 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,460 And I wanted to, I don't know if you guys heard me celebrate. 93 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:40,200 There was a new law passed June 5th of this year in Salem. 94 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,200 It's the bike bill. 95 00:07:41,420 --> 00:07:42,860 We've been working on it for 50 years. 96 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,120 And it states that it is in law 97 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:53,820 that any new road in the state of Oregon has to have a sidewalk and a bike path 98 00:07:53,820 --> 00:07:58,980 and any major improvement in the state of Oregon has to have a sidewalk and 99 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:04,440 a bike path. And I think they're going to work on on the Cape Ericle. But they 100 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:11,500 also unveiled O-dot, unveiled a new coast route, the bicycle map, and I have a 101 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:12,060 blow-up. 102 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:25,780 But each each town has a little big event of what they suggest here. 103 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:35,920 And the original red line shows the original blood alley where they send you up and over 104 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:42,960 but the new one, the alternate one, shows what we've been working on as far as to connect the boardwalk 105 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,460 and what Eric said about Ocean Boulevard. 106 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:53,180 The orange line is the new proposed bike path and it's really hip. 107 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:59,920 It goes on the north side of the Empire Lakes all the way to Empire where I'm at 108 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:12,100 and then it shows coming back down ocean boulevard and it also shows the alternate path along Highway 101, which I have a 900 foot piece of 109 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:23,280 I'm gonna try and do a sidewalk on my 900 feet of 101 awful on the on the water side of 101. So anyway, this is our little town on the 110 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,060 the the visitor center has the new 111 00:09:26,060 --> 00:09:33,020 So, um, ODOT, a Coast Bicycle, maps, and I've hit them up as many as they'll give me. 112 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:34,180 So, you're on your own. 113 00:09:35,260 --> 00:09:38,420 When does the bike bill come into? 114 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:40,300 Oh, it went into law. 115 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:41,280 June 5th. 116 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,240 But when is it effective? 117 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Effective? 118 00:09:45,220 --> 00:09:45,580 January? 119 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,380 No, no, no. 120 00:09:46,460 --> 00:09:47,560 It was effective right there. 121 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:49,580 All the politicians were there. 122 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,180 Kiss and babies. 123 00:09:50,380 --> 00:09:51,340 It happened right there. 124 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:54,320 It's Senate Bill of 4-0-0-7. 125 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,680 I think. 126 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:57,100 Thank you. 127 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:11,200 All right. Moving on to the Mingus Park Pickleball Court Proposal Discussion. So we have a proposal in our packet. 128 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:27,620 We had a proposal in your packet. I'll read just a quick summary. The first commission will discuss a community proposal to re-designate one of the two tennis courts at Mingus Park for dedicated or primary pickable use while retaining the other court for tennis. 129 00:10:27,620 --> 00:10:31,800 The proposal site's growing demand for pickleball, 130 00:10:32,180 --> 00:10:39,060 limited court availability on the south side of Kusbe and the development of a nearby school pickleball club. 131 00:10:39,780 --> 00:10:48,740 It also recommends evaluating the court's condition and use, identifying necessary improvements in pursuing community fundraising and volunteering support. 132 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:56,340 The commission is asked to determine whether the proposal should advance to a future regular meeting for 133 00:10:56,340 --> 00:11:00,000 formal consideration and a possible recommendation to city council. 134 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:05,310 So with that, I'll turn it over to the commission for discussion. 135 00:11:05,630 --> 00:11:06,310 Welcome, Chair. 136 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:10,010 My apologies. 137 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:12,030 Commissioner discussion? 138 00:11:12,910 --> 00:11:17,570 Petty, I'll just chime in and say, I totally support this happening. 139 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:26,610 I lived a pickleball experience in my day job at Swach and we did the same thing. 140 00:11:26,610 --> 00:11:36,490 We took two of our tennis courts and turned them into the eight, six pick-a-ball courts, and they're used almost. 141 00:11:37,390 --> 00:11:50,950 If we had lights out there, I would say they'd probably be 24-7 hours a day, one of the weather's good, and then they come inside and use their facility when the weather's bad. 142 00:11:50,950 --> 00:12:02,930 But it's such a popular sport, it's growing, and there needs to be more space, in my opinion, for pickleballers around the Kusbe, North Bend area. 143 00:12:03,290 --> 00:12:06,870 So I'm in favor of this proposal. 144 00:12:07,290 --> 00:12:10,030 All right, take a minute, come on. 145 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:12,900 Sounds good. 146 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:19,740 Yeah, I mean, I'm going to heart back to this thing again when the skate park came up. 147 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:25,660 I talked about putting a pick-a-ball court where that tennis court was when the fence got 148 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:31,100 tore down and I think we lost the net then so basically we had that empty space and we 149 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:36,900 turned it over to the skateboard park. It would have been an opportune time to put in a 150 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:42,720 pick-a-ball court there to tell you the truth and might have been a better location for one. 151 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:49,080 Because of that, the only two tennis courts that the city has are the ones that are up there 152 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:49,760 at the very top. 153 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,240 And I agree, Pickleball's gotten very, very, very popular 154 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,720 and I can see. 155 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,680 And I thought I was supporting a Pickleball court down 156 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:00,780 by the skateboard park. 157 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 The only concern that I have is, again, 158 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,900 maybe you can fill me in about it. 159 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Are we going to use both courts up there? 160 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,020 Are we going to use one court? 161 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,360 And how many Pickleball courts are we 162 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,540 going to put in on that one court? 163 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:13,460 She was three. 164 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,580 Probably four. 165 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,540 Well, I don't think you can get four in on one court. 166 00:13:17,540 --> 00:13:19,020 Excuse me, Bill. 167 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,000 I can't move. 168 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,380 Bill? 169 00:13:20,660 --> 00:13:21,600 Come to the nine final. 170 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,940 Would you please step up to the second? 171 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:23,880 Thank you. 172 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:28,800 Yeah, I was just going to say I tried to look a little bit about doing this. 173 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:33,200 I think it seems like it's really feasible to put in two on one court. 174 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,480 Normally you could put in two pickleball courts on each side of a tennis court. 175 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:43,800 A pickleball court is 20 by 40 by 44. 176 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:51,860 I was going to say the thing that I saw was you could do too easily on one court and three 177 00:13:51,860 --> 00:13:58,880 potentially, you're basically going across the court and just lengthwise ways, but I saw 178 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,680 and I just wanted to get in my mind what your thoughts were on what you wanted to do. 179 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,920 And then also kind of what you wanted to do as far as how do you envision 180 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,980 setting it up as a pickleball court. And I guess what I'm getting at, I mean, you can 181 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:23,640 leave the tennis lines in and paint pickleball courts in different color. You can, I read 182 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:29,020 some stuff that says pickleball surfaces are usually a little bit different than tennis 183 00:14:29,020 --> 00:14:34,520 courts. Not really, not really. Okay. Because there was, and some of these articles, there 184 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,940 was consideration about, it's not saying you have to do it. None of these articles said that, 185 00:14:38,940 --> 00:14:42,600 but a lot of them resurfaced the court because of the difference in the balls. 186 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:46,800 The light plastic balls are close to a tennis court. Well, we played down at 187 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,340 Pony Cricksloo. There's a tennis court down there and they were tennis courts and we just went 188 00:14:52,340 --> 00:14:59,500 in there and painted the lines and we have our own portable nets and we did that for years until 189 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,320 We moved up to swap. And there was never a problem with that. Did you paint them different colors? No, not really. I mean, they would intersect at some point. But we never had a problem at all. As far as the lines and because, like I said, a pickleball court is 44 by 20. And there's a kitchen, which is, I know it's a weird sport. 190 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:31,680 I've actually read that and found that amazing. 191 00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:35,260 But yeah, and those are the only lines we would have. 192 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:41,700 It was just, I think, one of the issues that I read was making sure there was enough room 193 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:45,560 around the court too for people to try to get, try to get. 194 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:50,400 But like at this point, we just came up with this idea like a month and a half ago. 195 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:59,700 And I could not tell you exactly how those courts are going to be set up because we have volunteers 196 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:06,080 who are surveyors, who will go up there and figure out, you know, as the maximum use, 197 00:16:06,380 --> 00:16:09,240 I would think there would be two, there would be four pegable clerks. 198 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:14,200 So I think the purpose of today is deciding if we wanted to come to a full parks commission 199 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,780 and then ask you to come to a full parks commission with the proposed layout. 200 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:23,860 So I think this is the first step is to see that if it should go to a parks commission for 201 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:28,240 a vote and then at that commission meeting we would like to see the actual layout. 202 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,180 Okay. 203 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:29,780 Yeah. 204 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:30,640 That's good. 205 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,640 And I'm not against it just as I really want some public see through some public comment 206 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,980 about the tennis courts because we had those two ladies come in before and basically what 207 00:16:40,980 --> 00:16:46,520 we do is we get the city down to one tennis court and maybe that's enough but I'd like to 208 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,340 hear from other people. 209 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:47,960 Oh, yeah. 210 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:48,220 I heard. 211 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:49,600 You can see what they said. 212 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Yeah. 213 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,220 So I like it. 214 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:53,660 Dennis used to be really popular now. 215 00:16:53,660 --> 00:16:54,100 It's not. 216 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:57,640 I think the ball is really popular, maybe in 10 years it won't be. 217 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:04,360 Because they've done the same thing over there, our Simpson part, it's half and half. 218 00:17:05,780 --> 00:17:12,940 But so far we've contacted Farrers and they have offered a pleasure, they're support. 219 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:22,140 Keeze Bay Toyota has offered his pledge to someplace else, but we've submitted the same 220 00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:28,620 exact proposal to the rotary and from what I saw it didn't look like it's very expensive. 221 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:34,320 No, no, not at all. We would imagine it would probably be less than $1,000 if $500. 222 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:50,190 We need you at the final. I said, like pick falls accessible from ages, like the middle school has 223 00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:56,310 it in their gym classes now all the way up to, I mean, I think I got schooled by an 88 year old 224 00:17:56,310 --> 00:18:10,470 the other day. Yeah so it's more accessible than tennis whereas tennis like is I would say it's a younger person's sport you wouldn't find a you know 85-year-old out there. 225 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:14,730 The 260-some-year-old ladies that came and talked to us will be happy to hear they're younger. 226 00:18:15,030 --> 00:18:24,510 They are younger than the people that I played against. And it's a more diverse population of pickable players and we're not taking away 227 00:18:24,510 --> 00:18:28,770 a functional tennis court because that tennis court doesn't function right 228 00:18:28,770 --> 00:18:35,870 now. They came and complained to us when I think the net was stolen and some 229 00:18:35,870 --> 00:18:39,750 other stuff was going on because that's where they play a lot of time. 230 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:49,110 So, right, we talk about that when we put the ones in a swap, two ladies came and got their net, their net. 231 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:53,950 And we ended up buying a new net for a barrier. 232 00:18:56,050 --> 00:18:56,590 That's interesting. 233 00:18:57,610 --> 00:18:58,630 Jamie, any questions? 234 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,280 Kurt, pretty much. 235 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,900 All right. 236 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:12,440 I just like to remind the commission that there are actually just three tennis courts. 237 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:21,280 We have two up in Mingus Park and Warren Avenue side, up at the Windy Park, at the top 238 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,100 of that street and 14. 239 00:19:22,860 --> 00:19:27,320 Now just also want to remind the commission, well I don't know if I mentioned it at the 240 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:35,780 last meeting or not, I did give a citizen a inquiry that they wanted to volunteer to rehabilitate 241 00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:45,100 that tennis court, repain it, re-stripe it, re-net it, they wanted to do that. I told them 242 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:52,380 that we would support that. We wanted to volunteer to do that. I sent them some information 243 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:58,200 on how to volunteer for the city and I haven't heard back yet, but obviously we would support 244 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:58,440 that. 245 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,600 Which court was that? 246 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:12,720 It's a winny park. Yeah, because it's in terrible shape. Yeah, it's in, it's in, it's in really bad shape. And so is the little basketball court on the other side. Behind the building as well. So. 247 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:28,220 And we have contacted the big fire department. There's no water up there. And they said they would bring a tanker at some point. They would bring a tanker truck up there. And we could use that for high pressure washing. 248 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:32,160 Okay. They were no problem with it. 249 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,480 So we're just looking for a general consensus on if they should move on to discussion at 250 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,260 the parks commission. I'm hearing mostly in favor that we're doing so. Yep. Yep. So 251 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:50,220 yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So our expectation at that is to have a layout of what it would 252 00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:56,080 actually look like. So all the complete information. So with that, I guess the next question 253 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,960 would be at the next park's commission which is literally in like we can have two weeks. 254 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,980 Would that give you enough time to put together? Do you want to wait till the following 255 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:12,440 month of October, the end of the week, but I'll get a hold of you. 256 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:17,560 Let's plan on maybe October. Yeah, we have enough time to prepare in a meaningful way for 257 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,800 you folks and that'll give me enough time to put together a staff report based on the information 258 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,600 that they give us. 259 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,780 Yes, I'm logical, okay, all right, and it this does happen. You think you're we get your approval 260 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:34,140 We might get this done film next spring because of the weather change 261 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,140 Yeah, you know 262 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:45,500 Three or four different phases and then I also want to make sure we have enough public notification to offer any public comment that may come in as well. Yeah 263 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:52,440 All right. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you. Thank you bill and we'll give that sounds great. Thank you 264 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,720 Thank you. All right, thanks. 265 00:21:55,180 --> 00:22:06,720 Great. We're moving on down to work session item 3B, presentation of planned bicycle and pedestrian improvements associated with 2027 road and sidewalk projects. 266 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,700 So, um, if you guys notice the layout of the staff reports a little bit different. 267 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720 So we have a little bit more robust summary. 268 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:24,640 And then we have the actual request and we have a background that if you like I can read just a summary or I can read the entire thing. 269 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,240 It's entirely up to you. 270 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,620 We'd like you to read it entirely twice. 271 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:30,940 Summary is fine. 272 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,400 Patty was shaking her head. She was running the meeting earlier. 273 00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:35,900 I like the way she was running the meeting. 274 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:38,680 Do you want me to leave? I guess I'm leaving. 275 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:45,820 No, absolutely. We'll just read the summary and then I can answer any specific questions that you folks might have in regards to. 276 00:22:45,820 --> 00:22:52,900 the roads and the selection and how we came up with these selections and stuff like that. 277 00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:57,740 So staff is presenting the road rehabilitation sidewalk accessibility and 278 00:22:57,740 --> 00:23:02,980 payment repair projects plan for fiscal year ending 2227, including the bicycle and 279 00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:05,960 pedestrian improvements incorporated into the current project scopes. 280 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,880 These improvements include restriping, the existing bicycle lanes on Newmark Avenue. 281 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:20,280 adding dedicated, adding new dedicated bicycle lanes on South Forest Street, and constructing sidewalks, 282 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:26,800 constructing identified sidewalks and ADA compliant ramps, broader bicycle and pedestrian network 283 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,940 improvements will be addressed through the city's comprehensive bicycle and pedestrian planning process. 284 00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:39,740 I do also want to just remind the commission, the last paragraph of the staff report is that 285 00:23:39,740 --> 00:24:09,660 The city is also in the early planning stages of developing a comprehensive bicycle and pedestrian plan because it proposed fiscal year end in 2027 projects will be designed and constructed before the plan is available the commissions review provides an opportunity to identify immediate bicycle and pedestrian concerns or potential improvements that could reasonably be incorporated into these projects broader questions regarding the city's bicycle and pedestrian network priorities and long term connections will be evaluated through 286 00:24:09,660 --> 00:24:15,000 the comprehensive planning process. So that's part of that TGM grant that City 287 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:24,960 applied for and did get but we don't anticipate having that plan until maybe fall 288 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:30,340 late summer fall next year after the fiscal year ends so maybe we can 289 00:24:30,340 --> 00:24:38,720 incorporate some of those ideas into fiscal year ending 2028 projects but we 290 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,520 We just won't have that document available to us until then. 291 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:51,620 And so with that, I'll turn it over to the commission and we can see how we pan out here. 292 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:52,240 All right. 293 00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:52,820 Jamie? 294 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,720 I did send out this to the bicycle and pedestrian. 295 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:27,900 The fact-finding committee with some maps that apparently had some wonky markings of where these were happening. And these are mainly just to summarize what wasn't read is that there are patches of road that definitely need working. And they are one to two to three blocks long to take care of horrible surfaces. 296 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:37,680 is one of which the North Lawson Street between Taylor and John Street is part of the 297 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:50,940 alternate coastal O-dot bikeway and I would recommend if there's any way within the 15 298 00:25:50,940 --> 00:26:07,480 10% budgeting to make that segment comply with, if there is, I looked up the Senate bill that Mr. 299 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:18,500 Lundy suggested it doesn't seem to be the right one who's referring to electric motor bicycles rather than bikeways. 300 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:24,940 So I'm not sure which one is referring to, but if that's true and we need to do that then we should 301 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:29,280 think about that segment between John and Taylor on 302 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,860 Washington actually on Google Earth that shows as 303 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:36,900 Lake Shore Drive at that point, but 304 00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:43,480 You're talking about the North Washington between Taylor and John right 305 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,960 so 306 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:50,290 Did look at that 307 00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:58,750 That roadway has got some constraints to it, so it has pretty wide at the tailor and 308 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:07,770 a washing intersection. Then it proceeds north, it bottlenecks down into a much more narrow 309 00:27:07,770 --> 00:27:14,130 road profile, road width. It's right at the spot where the cars go off the road all the time. 310 00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:19,810 Yeah, I think so. They kind of dip their tires off. I think it could go from a 36 width, 311 00:27:19,810 --> 00:27:30,430 36 wide road paved surface to a 28 wide paved surface so right now based off of 312 00:27:30,430 --> 00:27:37,510 the budget that we have and the the design that we currently have I didn't 313 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:44,050 propose any there because I don't know if they would if I can safely do that 314 00:27:44,050 --> 00:27:47,150 in that area but we can definitely look at it. 315 00:27:47,150 --> 00:27:53,610 it would require, I mean I assume there's a right of way that you could widen it in that narrow 316 00:27:53,610 --> 00:27:59,930 section but because of that it isn't it's going to be. It would require, yeah it would be much 317 00:27:59,930 --> 00:28:04,850 more expensive sidewalks, curbs, gutters and then I don't have any connectivity anywhere else 318 00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:13,090 through that area but doesn't mean that we can't look at it. I have no idea how this these things 319 00:28:13,090 --> 00:28:19,110 to go forward, but if it was such that you got through the other projects and your under-budget 320 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:29,150 adding it to this one, waiting to the end of the process to put it into that particular one, which is an important segment. 321 00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:40,230 When people in this area bicycle between Empire, North Bend, Cruz Bay, they'll either take their chances on upon ocean, 322 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:43,450 which is safer than other places like Newmark, 323 00:28:43,810 --> 00:28:47,570 or they'll take Lakeshore because it is a very safe, 324 00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:53,450 very little traffic right of way. 325 00:28:53,830 --> 00:29:01,880 So it is used now by locals and they're 326 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 saying the ones, the people that come down the coast 327 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:05,900 are classic and true. 328 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,100 So you're asking how I got 15% contingency 329 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,420 as used or how I did those and so what we'll do is we'll get our design put 330 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:18,800 together we'll send it out for bid and these numbers that I have in here are 331 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,040 just my estimates as are my based off of my experience based off of the 332 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,900 projects that I've seen over the course of last few years this is how much it 333 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:33,100 costs to do the work that I'm proposing so I'll send it out and then I'll get 334 00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:38,840 numbers last year I was I was way high with my estimates they were extremely high 335 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,800 but I think I have some very hungry contractors. 336 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,700 ODOT didn't put any projects out last year, 337 00:29:44,260 --> 00:29:47,060 and so the numbers that I got were well below my estimates. 338 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720 So I put together my bids, I send them out, 339 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,700 I get numbers back, and then I have to put a 15-part contingency 340 00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:58,920 on top of that number that I get from them. 341 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:28,440 So, let's just say that I'll just throw a number out that I get a job for $100,000. I estimated at $250,000. So, I get that approval, but I get the actual project is $100,000. I get a 15% contingency on that, I get $15,000. And that contingency is for unknowns, it's for things that we just don't know about. And so, that's where that contingency comes into. It's not to add on, 342 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Special things are add-on additional things. It's only for things that we just were not anticipating that would have to be in the 343 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,500 What is it an RFP? That would be in the bid documents bid document. You have an alternate 344 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,940 You could put it in an alternate, but that would be accounted for and that would be a big we I'd have to award it as 345 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:56,600 I'm gonna go with the alternate or I'm not gonna go with the alternate I can't award it and then at the alternate sure on sure 346 00:30:57,380 --> 00:31:05,840 So could if it was feasible and there was a decision that the parks made to say yes, let's do this for this segment. 347 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,560 Again, we could definitely look into it. 348 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,000 I don't know if I physically can, safely can, but we could definitely look into it. 349 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,000 I would support Jamie and the standpoint of doing whatever that we can there. 350 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,340 I've actually ridden that lakeshore thing on the back, too, for the very same reason. 351 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,740 Although Ocean Ballvard is really good, except where there's four linings we'll try. 352 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,160 Always say I wish we could get rid of and go to three lanes and bike lanes on either side. 353 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:43,120 If, you know, I'm not saying let's not take, let's take a look and see if we can put any kind of bike lane there, I think we'd be great. 354 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,980 But let's also think about alternatives. 355 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,360 You know, Eric's in the room and he started with the share of the road thing when we were 356 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,560 trying to look at some stuff on market and that signage that you can actually put on a road. 357 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:01,220 I mean, if this is going to be the route for the Oregon coast bikes and if we absolutely 358 00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:07,140 can't put in any bike lanes there because there isn't any space, can we look at what other 359 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:11,960 alternatives we might do as far as paying those share ons on the road and stuff. 360 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:19,100 because I will also tell you that I've met bikers when I've been writing and they've gotten lost. 361 00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:27,100 And that would actually help them navigate too, as far as this Oregon bike trail is concerned. 362 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:33,280 So my suggestion would be if we have any of the Oregon bike trail inside of our city limits, 363 00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:39,720 we ought to maybe do something like that to make it a little bit safer and also help identify it for the people. 364 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,860 Well, and perhaps maybe it will be flushed out in the comprehensive bike plan if the Oregon 365 00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:52,500 trails is going to change or alter their route, maybe there will be some financial support 366 00:32:52,500 --> 00:33:03,360 through the state to offer up some of that signage or some kind of routing for a bicyclist 367 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:09,580 to be able to safely navigate through the city or even know where to go, not just safely 368 00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:13,860 So we're just to even navigate through the city so they're not getting lost. 369 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:24,780 Yeah, that's a good point and I presume that ODOT would be involved with 101, 5 and 540 but I don't know if they're 370 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:29,500 going to support signage on the alternate route. 371 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,580 Yeah, I don't know. 372 00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:37,540 I'm just thinking if you have a brand new resurfaced road there that's in its nice and clean that's probably 373 00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:41,320 the best time of the world. You're going to paint something on it, to paint on it. 374 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,940 Thanks. I made it up. 375 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:45,840 Sure. 376 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,500 Penny, are you good? 377 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,600 It took a look at the rest of those roads. 378 00:33:55,540 --> 00:34:00,520 I didn't see a lot of opportunity there for pedestrians or bicyclists. 379 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,780 and I always got to remind ourselves that the 380 00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:12,320 districts are important as well so and I I talked to 381 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,680 Grigman before we first started here in the 382 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,180 Arden who maintained the bike lanes on new 383 00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:23,260 mark that are currently there so that's good. 384 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Yeah we're going to put in new stencils kind of 385 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,600 wore out or maybe the some reason we're not 386 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:37,500 put in but we're going to put new stencils in along a new mark from the city limits to the extent to the project. 387 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:47,360 And then we're adding two new bike lanes on South Forest Street for that one block that we're working on. 388 00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:56,150 Now you see the potholes are clustered is this because we've done such a good job at mitigating all the other potholes. 389 00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:59,970 Oh, uh, the potholes really were just here as uh... 390 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:29,620 Just letting you guys know that we're going to be working on a bunch of potholes, not really necessarily for comment about bike and pet, because they're just potholes. But they are clustered. We try to do that for a couple of reasons. A is mobilization for the contractor. Try to keep them pretty close to each other. Keep them in certain areas so that the mobilization fees and cost to move their equipment. 391 00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:44,560 what they do is they'll bring in a very large grinder to do that work, you know, it'll be here for just a couple of days, and they'll go through and they'll grind out all of the pot locations, and then they'll come back and pave behind it just for efficiency. 392 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:52,640 see. So, and then we actually been pretty good. I think for the course of the last two years, 393 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:59,980 we've done over a thousand potholes repairs in the city. It's a lot nicer riding on these 394 00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:06,060 roads and some other roads in the area. Well, and I think that, I mean, it is pertinent to 395 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:12,000 multimodal traffic because I saw skateboarder hit this pothole last week and nearly knocked him. 396 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,040 Which Paolo is that? 397 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:17,720 The one up the, as you turn to go up to Telegraph up by date. 398 00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:19,120 You shouldn't have been right over there. 399 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,540 Well, you know, a lot of time, a lot of time, a lot of traffic. 400 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,500 I'm joking. 401 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:25,780 But he hit it at a pretty good speed. 402 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,800 I don't know where the definition of Paolo is, but kind of, 403 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,140 one of these is 2,400 square feet. 404 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,040 2,400 square feet? 405 00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:34,320 Yeah. 406 00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:37,140 That's not a Paolo. 407 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:38,520 That's a, I don't know. 408 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,900 Well, we also try to get, well, 409 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:46,780 And these potholes are bigger than the potholes that we as staff will repair. 410 00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:55,400 So we do about, staff will do about 300 potholes a year, 350 smaller potholes, but these are 411 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,480 larger potholes. 412 00:36:56,820 --> 00:37:01,740 And what we try to capture in this pothole project is roads that are damaged that are going 413 00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:07,540 going to be a poll or continue, you know, that if we don't address it, they're allegated 414 00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:14,080 out. The payment has been fractured enough, and we're just going to capture it because 415 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:20,460 we're there, might as well. And so, yeah, some of them are pretty long, but we want to capture 416 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:24,860 it before it becomes a much more cost to repair in the future. 417 00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:33,720 One last thought that I had about the road winding and the pedestrian and bicycle set is that 418 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:38,680 I know you probably do this, I know you do this, but from the standpoint of you do that 419 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,220 sort of stuff, there's some cognizance of impediments to bike riding. 420 00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:51,420 I had a bike riding friend as far as the drainage grills are concerned, making sure that they're 421 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:55,920 the right way so that when I'm writing on a road a bike tire doesn't go into it and that 422 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:03,040 sort of stuff so yeah just a fun yes and then all of our grates that are associated 423 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,840 with like an ADA ramp or ADA compliance so they're going to be really close together 424 00:38:08,340 --> 00:38:13,920 less than half an inch separation in the grates I think it's actually less than that I want 425 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:20,800 say they're a quarter-inch to three-eighths of an inch, almost solid, and it's almost 426 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,760 like why even have a great, but it does work. But yeah, they are all ADA-compliant 427 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:31,980 that fall with an ADA ramp, and then all of our all of our grates are bicycle-compliant, 428 00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:38,120 so we'll put them, you know, perpendicular to instead of parallel with, so that we don't 429 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,680 award cyclists and get a bicycle tire stuck in a great, be bad. 430 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,680 Okay, thank you. 431 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,260 Any staff and commissioner and closing comments, Paddy? 432 00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:51,780 Jerry? 433 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,140 Yeah, I took my dog through Mingus on the walk in between work in this meeting, 434 00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:05,780 and I just wanted to tell Greg tell his team thanks for redoing all those boardwalk in the Mingus. 435 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,580 Oh, yeah. 436 00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:10,500 It looks really nice and thank you for I was like this is really pleasant 437 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,960 So like making metal note. Thank Greg 438 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,860 So thank you for for all of that. It really makes a difference 439 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,620 Thank you 440 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:28,100 Yeah, I always say Mingus Park looks really good and I know top of spark has come along to you guys to a great job 441 00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:29,560 you know 442 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Again, it's probably more for the bike and pad advisory committee, but there's a lot more electric bikes than they're used to be around. 443 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:49,120 And I know of Jamie Siddies, what he looked up on that Senate bill had maybe had something to do with electric bikes. 444 00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:54,720 And I look something, the rules for electric bikes in Washington and Oregon have changed. 445 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:59,980 It used to be had to be 16 or older. Now, if it's a class one, you can be 14 or 446 00:40:00,590 --> 00:40:29,610 And for a class two and class three, you have to be 16-year-older. But the interesting thing is a class one electric bike is a pedal assist bike that doesn't go over 20 miles an hour. The class two bike can be a pedal or an in throttle assist, but it doesn't go over 28. And a class three is a pedal assist only that doesn't go over 28. And I swear to God there's some electric bikes on the road around here that don't meet those criteria. I would almost consider them electric motorcycles. 447 00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:41,890 And I don't know, I just don't want electric bikes to get a bad name because I think it encourages people to ride bicycles and it's great to see them on the road. 448 00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:48,190 But it was probably more an enforcement problem than I don't know how to address that, but I thought I would just mention that. 449 00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:51,850 Thank you. Jamie closing comments? 450 00:40:52,470 --> 00:41:00,510 I got a notice from Cricut that there's a bench by the visitor center that's 451 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:04,020 not looking good. 452 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:11,400 So if there's a need for a memorial bench, either that one could be refurbished or replaced. 453 00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:19,640 Great, closing coming. 454 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,060 Okay, thank you. 455 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:28,880 Yeah, so just before we, I'd like to go back to the presentation on the plan by 456 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:36,740 I would ask the commission to give a consensus to move forward if I can. I'd like to take this 457 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:42,760 to council. The next council meeting. So if you don't mind, Chair, would you ask that 458 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:49,640 question? Do we have a consensus to move forward? Yes, yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. 459 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,280 Thank you very much. 460 00:41:50,520 --> 00:42:02,440 And then finally, you know, we try real hard as a commission to better our parks and 461 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,100 I see it every single time we get together that we do a really good job of doing that. 462 00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:11,640 I can't do what I do without your guys' support and guidance. 463 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:19,300 My staff, I really do appreciate you guys recognizing the staff and our efforts. 464 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:30,160 Don't know if you've had an opportunity to walk down to the boardwalk over the last week but we did repaint the map in there. 465 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,660 I think it looks sharp. 466 00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:35,060 It looks good. I was like, did they put a pool in? 467 00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:37,140 Because it was like reflecting on this. 468 00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:41,960 But I think the boardwalk area is looking really nice. 469 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:46,040 And Mingus Park is looking fabulous. 470 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:55,000 We got a little push from one of our park users to make a repairs on those boards, and so we were happy to do that. 471 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,820 It's kind of weird, those are actually true to buy fours. 472 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,840 They're not your standard to buy fours, so we were able to get those done. 473 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,760 And then we have a few other projects that we're working on. 474 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:11,560 But next up, I'm excited. Hopefully we get the grant for the playground equipment. 475 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:19,740 I think we'll find out here at the end of next month whether we get that if we do then we'll get that installed and then 476 00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:22,400 get Mingus Park kind of wrapped up for 477 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,680 some some time and and maybe shift our efforts over to John Toppitts Park 478 00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:34,640 Of course, we're doing a lot of work in John Toppitts Park, but you know, we can also dedicate a bit more time over there 479 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,660 So thank you and so hopefully I'll bring in more projects about John Toppitts Park to the commission 480 00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:42,320 So thank you everybody for your efforts. 481 00:43:42,980 --> 00:43:43,400 Thank you, Craig. 482 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,180 Christina? 483 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:45,340 All right. 484 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:46,520 Thank you so much. 485 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,800 I will reiterate the boardwalk looks great. 486 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,120 I saw them out power washing birds stuff today as well. 487 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:55,000 The rebavement looks great. 488 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,280 I would think that I've been going to John Topics, Mingus, Eastside. 489 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:04,060 I'm seeing a lot of usership in our parks and that's really great to see. 490 00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:08,260 That means that people are feeling safe and wanted in our parks space. 491 00:44:08,260 --> 00:44:14,060 And a big part of that is the amazing maintenance that staff does, so we appreciate that. 492 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,300 We thank you everybody for being here today, and I hope everyone has a very safe and fun 493 00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:19,960 Labor Day weekend. 494 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,240 Thank you. 495 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:22,920 So, it 496 00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:27,690 looks like that.