ALL RIGHT, THE TIME IS 5:00, AND I'M GOING TO CALL THE WORKSHOP OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO SESSION. FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS JUST ESTABLISH THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. TO MY LEFT, WE HAVE A TRUSTEE, LEE WALKER, TRUSTEE MANISH SETHI, VICE PRESIDENT, I ALMOST SAID SECRETARY, SORRY, NICOLE BENTLEY, BOARD SECRETARY JOBBY MATHEW, TRUSTEE RANNA RAVAL AND TRUSTEE ANTHONY HILL AND MYSELF. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AS WE GET STARTED, JUST ONE QUICK POINT OF CLARITY REGARDING, YOU KNOW, OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS. WE JUST AS A STANDARD PRACTICE, SCHEDULE OUR MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS A YEAR IN ADVANCE. WE TYPICALLY DO THOSE FROM JUNE TO JUNE OR ALMOST SCHOOL YEAR, JUNE TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ON SEVEN, NOT ONLY OUR SEVEN PEOPLE'S SCHEDULE. WE CAN'T HAVE MEETINGS WITHOUT A QUORUM OF THE BOARD, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE YOU CAN LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AND SEE THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT HAVE TO BE HERE TO MAKE THE MEETINGS WORK. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT 15, 20 AND SOMETIMES TWO DOZEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO MAKE THEIR SCHEDULES ALIGN FOR MEETINGS AND FOR US TO HAVE THESE TIMES OUR NORMAL TIMES FOR BOARD MEETINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, START TIME IS SIX. OUR WORKSHOPS TYPICALLY START AT 5:30, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF OUR MEETINGS THAT WE SET WHEN WE, WE SET THINGS ON SHORT NOTICE SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH BOARD POLICY, WHICH DOES STATE THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS, SPECIAL MEETINGS CAN BE CALLED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT OR AT THE REQUEST OF TWO TRUSTEES. SO OUR PROCESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHEN WE HAVE TO CALL MEETINGS ON ON SHORT NOTICE, WE START ON MONDAY, WE FIND OUT IF WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO BE HERE SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE TOPIC. WE NEED MORE THAN A QUORUM. A QUORUM IS FOUR, BY THE WAY. THE TOPIC WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO HAVE ALL SEVEN OF US HERE. SO WHEN MONDAY DOESN'T WORK, WE GO TO TUESDAY. WHEN TUESDAY DOESN'T WORK, WE GO TO WEDNESDAY AND SO FORTH. IT JUST SO HAPPENED FOR TONIGHT. WEDNESDAY WAS THE NIGHT THAT ALL OF OUR SCHEDULES WOULD LINE UP. THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE ONCE WE LAND ON A DATE, TYPICALLY WE, WE TRY TO STICK WITH OUR TIMEFRAME THAT WE ALWAYS DO. THINGS DO GET PUT ON THE DISTRICT CALENDAR AS SOON AS WE CAN, BECAUSE THIS ROOM IS USED VERY OFTEN ALMOST EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK AND MANY EVENINGS BY DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, DISTRICT COMMITTEES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CAMPUS COMMITTEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE SETTING THIS MEETING. IT WAS REQUESTED BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS TO START A LITTLE EARLIER DUE TO A PRIOR CONFLICT THAT WAS ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING AND SO TO, TO ALLOW FOR AND ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT. WE ACCOMMODATED THAT REQUEST AND DID A 5:00 START TIME. WE, YOU KNOW, ARE TYPICAL. YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONSIDER EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE, SCHOOL EVENTS. OUR LAST MEETING WE STARTED AT 5:00 BECAUSE OF THE OPEN HOUSE AT NINE. SO WE TAKE MANY THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE SET OUR MEETING. SO JUST JUST A REMINDER KIND OF FOR THOSE HERE, THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING ONLINE, WHY DO WE DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST SOMETIMES IT'S HOW IT WORKS OUT AND IT'S HOW WE CAN GET TOGETHER. WORKSHOPS AND MEETINGS ARE BUSINESS MEETINGS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN THE DISTRICT. IT'S FOR US TO CONDUCT BUSINESS, AND THE PUBLIC IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS WELCOME TO ATTEND. WE'RE INVITED TO ATTEND. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND, AND THERE IS A THERE WILL ALWAYS BE WHICH IS YOUR RIGHT UNDER THE, THE LAWS OF THIS GREAT STATE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD IN AN OPEN SESSION AT OUR MEETINGS, AND THOSE ARE ALWAYS THERE AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, UNTIL OFFICIALLY POSTED AND COMMUNICATED BY THE DISTRICT. JUST KNOW WHEN THINGS GET PUT ON THE CALENDAR. SOMETIMES IT'S A PLACEHOLDER. SO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT KNOW THAT THIS ROOM IS GOING TO BE IN USE. OR IF THEY'RE PLANNING AN EVENT, THEY CAN SCHEDULE AROUND THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON BUT ALL OF OUR MEETINGS ARE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH BOARD POLICY AND THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS AS TO WHY THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE AND HOW THEY WORK SOMETIMES, AND I'LL CONTRAST THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, OTHER MEETINGS OR OTHER TYPES. WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD A TOWN HALL, BUT THROUGH THE SPRING AND EVEN THROUGH LAST FALL, WE HAD MANY YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FORUMS, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE CALLED FORUMS. THEY GO BY DIFFERENT NAMES. THOSE ARE MEETINGS OF THE DISTRICT AND NOT NOT MEETINGS OF THE BOARD, AND SO THEY THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME STRICT RULES THAT WE HAVE AS A BOARD WHEN WE'RE MEETING IN SESSION AND WHEN THERE IS A QUORUM OF US PRESENT. SO I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST CLARIFY THAT AS WE GET STARTED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU GUYS UP HERE AND FOR EVERYBODY HERE AND WATCHING, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUATION OF LAST MONDAY'S MEETING, BECAUSE WE NEED TO PICK UP KIND OF WHERE WE LEFT OFF AND WHERE WE LEFT OFF WAS THE BOARD HAS
VOTED TO CONSOLIDATE AND CLOSE PINKERTON AT THE END OF THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR. THAT IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS HAS BEGUN, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND FINALIZE, INCLUDING PLACEMENT OF DLI, IB, AND OBVIOUSLY THE STUDENT MOVEMENTS AND BOUNDARY ALIGNMENTS THAT WILL OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. OUR GOAL IS REALLY WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME CLEAR DIRECTION TO DR. HUNT AND HIS TEAM AND FORMULATE AN ACTION PLAN. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON TO THAT DOCTOR? I JUST APPRECIATE THE BOARD AND THE TIME THAT YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN IN REVIEWING ALL THIS INFORMATION, AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE, AND APPRECIATE OUR PARENTS AND STUDENTS. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NEVER EASY TOPICS. AS WE SAID FROM THE GET GO, AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE TOPICS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TOGETHER AS A TEAM, AND I'VE SAID BEFORE, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY THAT WORKS BEST WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER. THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN EVERYBODY GETS WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THAT DOES MEAN THAT PEOPLE DO HAVE AN OPINION THAT NEEDS TO BE SHARED AND VOICES THAT NEED TO BE HEARD, BUT ALSO WE'VE GOT TO COME TOGETHER AND MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT THE PLANS ARE, AND SO THERE WAS A MOTION THAT WAS PASSED LAST MONDAY OR LAST BOARD MEETING, WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH. THAT STAFF JUST NEEDS CLARIFICATION FROM THE BOARD ON EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO DO BASED ON THE DECISION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE. SO CLARITY TONIGHT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME AS SUPERINTENDENT, BUT ALSO FOR OUR STAFF, AND I THINK IT'S FROM SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, INCLUDING OUR TEACHERS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT THEY NEED AS WELL. LET ME HOP IN HERE. SINCE IT WAS ME THAT REQUESTED THE 5:00 TIME. I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH EVERYONE SHIFTING, AND TO THAT END, I NEED TO LEAVE AT 6:25. SO WHEN I GET UP AND WALK OUT I'M HOPING WE GET A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN BEFORE THAT. I WILL BE WATCHING THE REST OF THE MEETING AND OPEN FORUM AS IT'S RECORDED TOMORROW. LIKE MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THERE'S I WILL GET UP AT 06:25 AND EXIT. SO APPRECIATE THE BOARD MAKING IT SO THAT I COULD ATTEND AND BE A PART OF THIS. AS YOU SAID, PRESIDENT CAVINESS, I THINK AS WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL SEVEN OF US WEIGH IN AND ARE PART OF IT. SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO WITH THAT, I THOUGHT WHAT WE WOULD DO, YOU KNOW, JUST AS WE KIND OF COME TOGETHER AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IN A DEBRIEF MODE FOR US FROM FROM LAST MONDAY ON THE 30TH, BUT ALSO AS WE KIND OF START FORMULATING A PLAN AND ACTION FOR THE NEXT STEPS, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WE'LL START WITH THE LISTENING CIRCLE, SO TO SPEAK, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INTENT REALLY IS YOU KNOW, FOR US TO KIND OF JUST LET OUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE NOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD? AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, DO YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO OR FOR US, FOR DR. HUNT TO, YOU KNOW, COME BACK TO US WITH ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS, IF THAT IS STILL THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. SO WE'LL DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO INTO A DIALOG FROM THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS, AND STARTED WITH LEE ON THE FIRST PART, AND ANTHONY, DO YOU WANT TO KICK US OFF AS OUR SENIOR STATESMAN AND WE CAN JUST GO AROUND THE DAIS? YEAH, I MEAN I THINK WHERE WE LEFT OFF IS A IS A STOPPING POINT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE PLACE STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT? I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT WE LEFT OFF WITH IS RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE CAPACITY OF THE, OF THE ENROLLMENT OF THE STUDENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE MOVEMENT IS TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE BEST PLACE. I THINK THE SECOND THING COMES INTO PLACE IS THE IB PROGRAM, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? RIGHT, AND I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? DOES IT HAVE TO COINCIDE WITH THE MOVEMENT OF THE STUDENTS? IS IT INDEPENDENT? I JUST THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. DOES THAT WHAT MAKES SENSE IN THE REALM OF THINGS AND WHAT MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO WITH THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IRONIC THAT WHEN IB PROGRAM CAME ABOUT, IT WAS A CONTROVERSIAL CONVERSATION AS WELL. RIGHT? IT WAS A 4-3 VOTE. IT WASN'T A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DO THAT, AND SO ONCE AGAIN IS, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN? RIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE DO NEEDS TO FIT INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND IT NEEDS TO FIT IN THERE SEAMLESSLY IN A WAY THAT WORKS AND MAKES SENSE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING THAT I'M LOOKING AT.
THE FOURTH THING IS REALLY JUST LOOKING AT AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE NOTES AT A HIGH LEVEL, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT IN THAT, RIGHT? SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE MAKE THAT SMOOTH AND EVEN. DO WE HAVE GRANDFATHERING, WHICH WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST? ARE THERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST? RIGHT. THINKING BEYOND JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY IN REGARDS TO THAT, AND I THINK THE STAFF COMPONENT IS, IS REALLY TANTAMOUNT IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW DO YOU MOVE THE STAFF IN A MEANINGFUL WAY TO ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND FULFILL THAT DIGNITY AND RESPECT? AS WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME WITH OUR STAFF IN LOOKING AT THAT. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF CONCERN IS CAN WE DO THOSE THINGS SEAMLESSLY? HOW DO WE DO THOSE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT, BUT ALSO THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF IMPACT, THE CONTINUATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE DESTINATION SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THROUGHOUT OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGHOUT 2024. SO THAT'S ME KICKING IT OFF, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS CIRCLE AROUND INTO MORE GRANULAR DETAIL, BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOVERNANCE, I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM, BUT REALLY FRAME THE DIRECTION THAT WE MAY NEED TO GO IN. RANNA. I WOULD ECHO THE SAME FROM MY NOTES. SO IN OUR LAST DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSED A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, BUT WITH MANY MOVING FACTORS AND NOT FULLY DEVELOPED PLAN IN PLACE JUST YET. I THINK NOW THE QUESTION IS, HOW WILL WE ADDRESS THIS CHALLENGE? AND WHAT IS OUR PLAN OF ACTION MOVING FORWARD? YOU KNOW, WE REPEATEDLY SAY THAT OUR DISTRICT WILL SUPPORT ITS EMPLOYEES AND FAMILIES. I THINK NOW IT'S NOW IT'S CRUCIAL FOR US TO KIND OF DEMONSTRATE HOW WE WILL DO THAT. I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON OUR ADMINISTRATION TEAM. WE CAN DEFINITELY USE THEIR EXPERTISE MOVING FORWARD WITH IB AND DLI PROGRAM TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROGRAM, AND THE CULTURE OF THE PROGRAM. SO I THINK WHAT WAS AND I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, I THINK THAT THERE'S KIND OF THE OVERARCHING CONCERN, I THINK KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PLACE THINGS, AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS FOR MY CONCERN AT THE BEGINNING WAS LIKE THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROJECTIONS THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN KIND OF IN REAL TIME, AND YOU'RE THINKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLACING THESE CHOICE PROGRAMS, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR GOALS HERE, WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU START OFF WITH FIRST, AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PARENTS LIKE TO HAVE OPTIONS, AND I SHOULD REITERATE, RIGHT. I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MONTHS AND FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE RUBRIC AND HOW IT WAS APPLIED AND BOTH THE QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE ANALYSIS, AND AS I SAID THE NIGHT BEFORE, IT WAS A REASONABLE PROPOSAL THAT'S IN FRONT OF US, AND I THINK THAT DEMOGRAPHIC THE DEMOGRAPHIC NUMBERS OR THE PROJECTIONS REALLY SOLIDIFIED IN MY MIND. ONE, I THINK THAT CONSOLIDATION WAS THE CORRECT FINANCIAL CHOICE FOR NOW AND THEN, TWO, IT'S WORTH LIKE A DOUBLE CHECK ON THE PLACES WHERE THINGS ARE LANDING TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRANSPLANTING LIKE COMMUNITIES AND PROGRAMS TO DIFFERENT PLACES. RIGHT, AND STAFF AND PARENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO EVERYTHING THAT WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE COMING. SO IT'S WORTH IT BEFORE WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON THAT IS TO TALK TO INSTRUCTIONAL AND CAMPUS LEADERSHIP AND THEN SEE, ARE THESE THE PLACES THAT IF SOMETHING ELSE WERE TO HAPPEN LATER, GOD FORBID, RIGHT THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THOSE BECAUSE ONCE THEY START TAKING ROOT AND GROWING, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DISTURB THEM AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK MY POSITION HASN'T CHANGED MUCH FROM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'VE BEEN SINCE WE STARTED OUT. I'LL JUST START MY COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT OUR ROLE AND OUR JOB, RIGHT? OUR ROLE IS, YOU KNOW, TO STUDY THE ISSUES THAT FACE THE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE NEEDS AND RESOURCES AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STUDENTS AND DISTRICT, BUT BY DEFINITION, IT GOES BEYOND THAT. YOU KNOW, AS A BODY CORPORATE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF, AND THEN MAKE DECISIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF, OF OUR
SUPERINTENDENT, WHO IS IS OUR EMPLOYEE AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERT AND HIS TEAM AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB THEN IS TO MONITOR AND JUDGE THE OUTCOMES, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUTCOMES, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUDGE OUR SUPERINTENDENT, OUR EMPLOYEE AND, AND HOW WE ARE JUDGED, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S SET FORTH BY US, TO US, BY THE STATE, AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE DECISIONS WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IN MOVING THE NEEDLE FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT EASY. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE CONVENIENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE USED TO OR NORMAL, AND MEANS CHANGES THERE AND ALSO WE ALL HAVE TO BE WILLING TO STEP OUTSIDE OF OUR COMFORT ZONE IN THAT REGARD, AND I'LL ECHO A COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WAS MADE LAST TIME, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS COMING WHETHER WE MAKE ANYTHING DIFFERENT OR NOT, AND I'M GOING TO RELATE THAT DIRECTLY TO MY COMMENTS. A SECOND AGO AS I WAS SETTING UP THIS PIECE FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE DATA. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PROGRAMMATIC WEAKNESSES, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, AND I'M GOING TO SAY THAT AND I'M GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS THAT ARE BAD OR ARE NOT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, BUT THERE ARE SOME DEFINITELY WEAKNESSES, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, AND I'LL POINT BACK TO OUR CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT WE JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED AND LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DLI AND YOU KNOW, SOME CONSISTENCY IN BOTH BOTH CAMPUSES, WHICH WHICH BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, DLI EDUCATORS NEED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR CROSS TEAM AND CROSS CAMPUS COLLABORATION AND INSTRUCTIONAL PLANNING ALIGNMENT NEEDED FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF SPANISH RESOURCES AND INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS AS THE ROOT CAUSE, SORRY AND FINDING ANY AREAS OF NEED AND THAT WAS ECHOED IN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WORDS, BUT IN BOTH BOTH OF THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE CAMPUS WENT A LITTLE FURTHER WITH A DIFFERENT PROBLEM STATEMENT AND SAYING THERE WAS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL DLI RESOURCES AND PLANNING. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS COLLECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, AND I'M LOOKING AT HOW DO WE AS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SOME OF THESE DECISIONS, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE WHEN IT COMES TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, WHETHER WE DO ANYTHING OR NOT. IN THIS CASE, WITH DLI, WE KNOW CHANGES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE, AND, YOU KNOW, CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL AND, AND MATERIALS AND, AND EVERYTHING IN THAT REALM. SO YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT LISTENING TO OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF. I THINK WHAT'S IN OUR IMPROVEMENT PLANS IS CERTAINLY ONE AVENUE. WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER TEACHERS, YOU KNOW, NOW, DIRECTLY, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DLI, THAT THE NATURE OF THE PROGRAM BEING 50/50, YOU KNOW, THEY MOVE AT A SLOWER PACE AND THAT CAUSES STRESS WITH YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DLI CLASSES AND THE MONOLINGUAL AND, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD ALONG THIS PROCESS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EFFICIENCY, AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR HERE, BECAUSE WE'VE USED THE WORD EFFICIENCY SO MUCH IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL, BUT IT'S ALSO BEYOND THAT IT'S EFFICIENCY IN CONTENT DELIVERY. IT'S EFFICIENCY IN INSTRUCTION, AND THAT IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. SO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE I THINK WE'RE HUNG UP, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M AT, AND YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE PUT THINGS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT PIECE, HOW DO WE ENHANCE OUR PROGRAMS? YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M STILL COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH THE IDEA THAT DLI SHOULD BE CONSOLIDATED. I THINK WE'VE HEARD YOU KNOW, DATA AND WE'VE SEEN THE DATA PLENTY OF TIMES FOR THAT, AND THEN MY FINAL THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN CONTEXT OF THE BIG PICTURE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF WE'VE ALREADY DONE ONE CHUNK OF IT, WHICH IS HAS VOTED TO APPROVE THE CLOSING OF PINKERTON, BUT WE'VE STILL GOT THE MOVEMENT OF STUDENTS AND PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK OUT AND WE'VE GOT TO GET RIGHT. I THINK FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT. YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY MATTERS, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BOUNDARY MAP, WHICH I SEE THE BIG ONE OVER THERE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT IN THOSE MOVEMENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I WOULD NEED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE STICKING WITH PROXIMITY OR ARE WE DOING THINGS THAT ARE CREATING ADDITIONAL EXPENSES? AND I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION COSTS THAT WILL BASICALLY NEGATE SOME OF THE FINANCIAL COST SAVINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK, AND DR.
HUNT, YOU AND I TALKED, I THINK IN OUR ONE ON ONE EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO BE FUTURE FOCUSED AS WELL. NOT JUST WE'RE SOLVING A PROBLEM FOR TODAY, BUT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK BEYOND TODAY AND NEXT YEAR, AND, AND YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND ONE THING THAT I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE THE TWO PROGRAMS, IB AND DLI, THAT WE ARE SAYING WE'RE COMMITTED TO PROGRAMS. WE'VE SAID THAT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AND HOW DO WE MAKE THOSE PROGRAMS THRIVE AND SURVIVE AND EXCEL WHERE THEY ARE TODAY? AND I THINK MAKING SURE THAT ANY MOVE THAT WE MAKE, WE'RE FUTURE PLANNING SO THAT HEAVEN FORBID, IF WE END UP BACK IN THIS SPOT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT A DOUBLE WHAMMY THAT YOU JUST MOVED OR YOUR STUDENTS JUST MOVED. THE PROGRAMS JUST MOVED 24 TO 36 MONTHS AGO, AND NOW WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN. SO THAT'S THE THINGS I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OR FOR. IF WE LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN RECOMMENDED. YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THE MOVES WE MAKE TODAY FOR THESE SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS ARE SUFFICIENT FOR ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE CONVERSATIONS THAT MAY OCCUR, AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT, AND WE CAN'T SAY THINGS WITH 100% CERTAINTY, BUT CERTAINLY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST DEGREE OF PROBABILITY THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO DO MUCH DIFFERENT. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM AS WE GO INTO TODAY AND TRYING TO FORGE A PATH FORWARD. NICOLE. I MEAN, SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ARE SIMILAR TO THINGS THAT EVERYBODY HAS EXPRESSED ALREADY. SO AT A REALLY HIGH LEVEL WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF US LOSING, PROJECTING TO LOSE MORE STUDENTS MORE RAPIDLY FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER AND GETTING THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE 30TH, AND I DO APPRECIATE, BY THE WAY, TO STAFF GIVING US I KNOW WE DON'T USUALLY SEE DRAFTS THAT QUICKLY, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAD THAT FOR THE CONVERSATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TO THE BEST. WE CAN HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S A ONE TIME MOVE FOR STUDENT GROUPS. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COHORTS THAT ARE PROGRAMS. SO I WOULD I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEREVER WE MOVE IB, THAT WE DON'T POTENTIALLY HAVE TO MOVE IT AGAIN IN SHORT ORDER, OR DLI FOR THAT MATTER, IF THAT ENDS UP BEING COMBINED AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD THAT CONTEXT FOR THE ORIGINAL OPTIONS THAT WE HAD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE REVISED ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS. I'D LIKE TO KIND OF KNOW IF WE HAVE TO DO FUTURE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLOSURES, IF THE MOVE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING RIGHT NOW, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, IF IT FITS WELL WITH POSSIBLE NEXT MOVES THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY NEED TO MAKE. YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT. WE ALREADY KNEW THAT THE FOUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE DISTRICT WERE HAVING DECREASED ENROLLMENT, AND WE WERE DOING SOME SHIFTING, AND WE WERE EXPERIENCING ALL THE GROWTH AND PRESSURE FROM THE SOUTHERN SIDE. SO WE HAVE HAD SOME THINGS REMAIN CONSTANT, EVEN IF THE NUMBERS HAVEN'T REMAINED EXACTLY CONSTANT SOME OF OUR TRENDS HAVE AND THAT WAS PRE-COVID. SO JUST CONTEXTUALIZING THAT IF WE HAD TO MAKE FUTURE MOVES IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS, DOES WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW LOOK LIKE IT HAS LONGEVITY? THEN I HAVE COMPLETE FAITH IN THE RUBRIC, THE PROCESS, THE GROUPS THAT PUT THE RUBRIC TOGETHER AND DID THE ASSESSMENT. I HAVE HAD A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE LAYER, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING ONE PIECE OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER AND PRESENTED, BUT I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DO THOSE THINGS AND THEN WE HAVE KIND OF LIKE SECOND TIER PRIORITIES, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY SECOND TIER PRIORITIES, AND I BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD A SECOND TIER PRIORITY BE KEEPING STUDENT COHORTS TOGETHER AS IN LIKE A PROGRAM, WOULD A SECOND TIER PRIORITY BE KEEPING NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, JOBBY'S MENTIONED IN ANOTHER CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE HAD THAT MAYBE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS MIGHT SOMETIMES HAVE TO MEAN THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD ALL GOES TO A SCHOOL. IT MAY NOT MEAN, AS IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WAS COST SAVINGS THE NEXT LEVEL OF PRIORITIES? SO I'M NOT FOR US TO HAVE THIS BE REPEATABLE. I JUST THOUGHT KIND OF THAT SECOND TIER OF WHAT WE VALUE AS A COMMUNITY OR WHAT STAFF VALUES OR WHAT THE BOARD IS SAYING IS THE VALUE. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT THAT AND HAVE SOME CONTEXT AND CONVERSATION AROUND THAT, AND ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, THERE WAS A REALLY GREAT SLIDE.
I'LL TRY TO FIND THE SLIDE NUMBER FOR YOU GUYS, BUT NEAR THE END ANGELA MENTIONED HERE WERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CONSIDERED TO COME TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND NOW THAT WE KNOW, KIND OF THE LAST TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE DOWN TO DISCUSSING IS WHERE IB SHOULD LIVE AND WHERE DLI SHOULD LIVE. I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT SLIDE IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW IT APPLIES TO THESE LAST COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING BECAUSE IT WAS A GREAT, IT WAS A GREAT LIST, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO ASSUME. I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS, AND THEN LASTLY, ABOUT DLI SPECIFICALLY, IF THERE WERE, IF THE PROGRAMS WERE COMBINED ON ONE CAMPUS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ON THAT SAVINGS, ESTIMATED SAVINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE LIKE, WHAT'S A RANGE? BUT TELL ME A LITTLE BIT LIKE WHAT WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSES MAKING A COMBINING THE PROGRAMS AND WHAT WOULD BE AREAS OF SAVINGS. KIND OF LIKE WHAT DIANA DOES WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET WHERE SHE COMES AND SHE'S LIKE, SINCE THE LAST DRAFT, THESE HAVE BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSES, AND THESE HAVE BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL SAVINGS THAT WE'VE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT WITH THAT RANGE AND HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THAT, OR WHERE WE COULD COMBINE BUS ROUTES, FOR INSTANCE, FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TO SHORE UP AND GIVE US A DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE IN GOOD STUDENT OUTCOMES FROM THIS, FROM A COMBINATION OF THE PROGRAMS, IF THAT'S WHAT IS VOTED ON. THE STUDENT OUTCOME PIECE IS ONE THAT'S JUST KIND OF BEEN WEIGHING HEAVY ON ME. I'M NEXT. SO FOR ME, THIS WHOLE WHAT'S HAPPENED LAST MEETING WAS PROCESS DRIVEN. I WOULD HAVE WISHED CULMINATION OF OUR STEP ONE OF CONSOLIDATION BUT IT WASN'T THE CULMINATION. IT WAS PROBABLY A START, BUT IT STARTED WITH US CREATING A RUBRIC. IT STARTED WITH US AS A BOARD CREATING OUR PRIORITIES, AND THOSE PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY MANY TIMES IN THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE TEACHERS IS NUMBER ONE, AND I'LL CONCLUDE WITH THAT WHY THAT IS NUMBER ONE, AND THEN FROM THOSE PRIORITIES CAME COMMUNITY INPUT. IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH CONSOLIDATION, IF YOU HAVE TO REDUCE OUR FINANCES, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN? THEN THOSE CONSIDERATIONS CAME BACK TO THE BOARD IN THE FORM OF A RUBRIC, AND WE GOT TO CHANGE, MAKE SOME SPECIFIC CHANGES TO THAT RUBRIC AND WENT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. A DIFFERENT SET OF COMMUNITY, AND STAFF MEMBERS WORKED ON THAT RUBRIC TO BRING THE PROPOSAL TO US. SO IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXTENSIVE PROCESS-DRIVEN PROCESS, PROCESS-DRIVEN DECISION WE HAVE MADE OR ATTEMPTED TO MAKE IN THIS DISTRICT AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING OUR SCHOOL BOARD FOR AT LEAST A DECADE, IF NOT LONGER. SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT EXTENSIVE PROCESS, WHICH IS DATA DRIVEN, WHICH IS COMMUNITY DRIVEN, WHICH IS BOARD DRIVEN, BOARD PRIORITIES DRIVEN, WHICH IS DRIVEN WITH A LONG TERM HOW IT'S GOING TO SERVE, BECAUSE WE KNEW WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS A FEW MONTHS BACK FOR THE RUBRIC THAT THIS IS NOT A ONE TIME DEAL. THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH HAS TO BE REPEATABLE. SO IT'S YOU WOULD SEE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAID QUITE A BIT SIMILAR THINGS BECAUSE OUR NORTH ALIGNS. WE KNOW WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR FINANCES, SPECIFIC ARGUMENTS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, AND WE KNOW IF IDEA IS GREAT, BUT IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT EVEN THE GREATEST IDEA CAN FALL SHORT, AND EVEN IF THE IDEA IS GOOD BUT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS GREAT, THE GOOD IDEA MAY SERVE US REALLY, REALLY WELL, AND FOR ME, THE IMPLEMENTATION DOES NOT FALL ON THE BOARD. IT FALLS ON THE DISTRICT WITH INTENSE HELP FROM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE DISTRICT CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, BUT HOW AND WHAT WE TALK TO OUR KIDS AT HOME, THEY EMULATE US, THEY LISTEN TO US AND THAT GOES A LONG WAY. SO WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THESE RUBRICS, WE TOLD DISTRICT THAT CHOICE PROGRAMS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR. WHAT MAKES US A DESTINATION DISTRICT ALONG WITH WHATEVER WE DO, AS WE HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, WE DO IT WITH COPPELL STANDARD.
WE DO IT WITH THE SENSE OF EXCELLENCE IN MIND. WHEN THE RIGHT TIME COMES, AND WE ALSO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE DISTRICT, THAT WHEN THE RIGHT TIME COMES, WE WOULD WANT THESE CHOICE PROGRAM TO BE SUSTAINABLE FOR LONG TIME. SO AS THE TIDE TURNS, TRUSTEE HILL HAS SAID MANY TIMES, THESE ARE CYCLES. HE HAS SEEN THE DOWN CYCLE BEFORE. THEN CAME A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE CREATED THE SURPLUS. NOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE DOWN CYCLE AGAIN. SO WHEN THE RIGHT TIME COMES, WE CAN NOT ONLY TRY THESE PROGRAMS, WE CAN GROW THESE PROGRAMS. I'VE MENTIONED IT MANY TIMES BEFORE. I'D LOVE TO SEE I'VE PROGRAM GROW. I'D LOVE TO SEE THE PROGRAM GROW. THESE ARE ONE OF THE TWO MOST PASSIONATE COMMUNITY WE HAVE IN OUR CHOICE PROGRAMS, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEW TECH AND OUR SMALLER KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL CHOICE PROGRAM GROWTH. SO WE WANT NOT ONLY THESE PROGRAMS TO THRIVE, BUT GROW WHEN THE RIGHT TIME COMES, AND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT TIME TO GROW, TO INVEST IN THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO FOCUS ON REDUCING FINANCES. WE HAVE ALSO TOLD THE DISTRICT THAT WHATEVER WE DO, IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE VIEW OF LEAST DISRUPTION TO THE STUDENTS, TO THE FAMILIES THAT AUTOMATICALLY TAKES INTO PLACE, KEEPING NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER, THAT ONE DIRECTION, AND OUR GOAL IS TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE DISTRICT, NOT TO GET INTO THE MINUTIA, NOT TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO STUFF, NOT TO, IN MY POINT OF VIEW, AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OUT OF SOMETHING, OUR JOB IS NOT TO TALK ABOUT HOW MANY WALKERS THERE ARE. COMMUNITY CAN ASK FOR IT. ABSOLUTELY, THEIR RIGHT, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE MY GOVERNANCE BASED ON THOSE MINUTE DETAILS BECAUSE THAT'S DISTRICT JOB. THAT'S THE JOB OF THE EXPERTS, AND OUR DISTRICT HAS GIVEN US EVERY REASON TO PUT OUR FAITH ON IT, BECAUSE THAT'S COPPELL IS WHAT IT IS. IT IS BECAUSE WHAT THESE STAFF MEMBERS, DR. HUNT'S STAFF AND WHAT THESE LEADERS HAVE DONE FOR US, SO THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO TRUST THEIR EXPERTISE, BUT FROM A HIGH VIEW, WE ARE GIVEN THAT AS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE RUBRIC. SO WHEN WE GIVE ALL THESE GOALS, THE OVERALL VIEW IS TO SERVE OUR LEARNERS THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY SO THEY CAN SUCCEED, WHATEVER THEIR DEFINITION OF SUCCESS IS. WHAT ACADEMICS IS JUST MORE THAN MATH AND SCIENCE. WHATEVER THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE OUT OF SCHOOLING, THEY CAN ACHIEVE IT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY, AND THE WAY WE SERVE OUR LEARNERS IS NOT BY GOING TO CLASSROOM. THAT'S NOT THE JOB OF TRUSTEES WE SERVE OUR LEARNERS BY SERVING OUR STAFF, BY LISTENING TO OUR COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY GETS TRANSLATED INTO THE POLICIES THAT WE GIVE TO THE STAFF, BUT WE SERVE OUR LEARNERS THROUGH OUR STAFF, AND I'LL REPEAT AGAIN, OUR STAFF HAS GIVEN US ALL THE REASONS TO TRUST THE EXPERTISE THEY HAVE IN FINDING OUT HOW TO MAKE THE SUCCESS OF THE DISTRICT THROUGH THESE DIFFICULT TIMES IN A MANNER THAT WILL SUSTAIN THESE CHOICE PROGRAMS AND HELP US GROW, AND AT THE END WE GOT A SOLUTION FROM THEM. WE ASKED MANY QUESTIONS. COMMITTEE ASKED MANY QUESTIONS. WE TRUSTEES ASKED MANY QUESTIONS, AND WE GOT THE ANSWERS. SOME OF US MAY NOT BE SATISFIED BUT AT THE END THEY PUT THEIR FAITH BECAUSE THEY GAVE US ONE OPTIONS AND THEY TOLD US VERY CLEARLY THEY HAVE GIVEN US THIS OPTION AFTER GOING THROUGH ITERATION OF ELIMINATING EVERY OTHER OPTION. WE ASKED, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THIS? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT? THE CLEAR ANSWER WAS YES, THEY HAVE, AND THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE OPTION. WITH THAT FAITH AND WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF HOW WHERE MY HEAD IS FROM LAST FEW MONTHS, I PASSED THE MOTION OFF TO ACCEPT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN BY THE STAFF LAST TIME, AND THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN WHAT WE WILL NEED TO DO IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING PROCESS DRIVEN AND DATA DRIVEN, THEN AND THE PROCESS INCLUDED NOT JUST OBJECTIVE DATA, THERE WERE A LOT OF SUBJECTIVE DATA WHICH WAS MADE PART OF IT. THEN WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE RUBRIC. THE RUBRIC WAS VOTED BY THIS BOARD, AND IF THE IF THE DECISION IF YOU HAVE TO GO AND CHANGE THE OUTCOME AND GO FOR SOME OTHER
OUTCOME, WE HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT VALUES THAT DECISION HAS TO BE BASED ON, BASICALLY A RUBRIC, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE RUBRIC AGAIN, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID LAST TIME THAT THIS IS IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THIS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A QUICK CHANGE. WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE DRAWING BOARD AGAIN, CREATE NEW RUBRIC WHICH INCLUDED COMMUNITY INPUT, AND THEN WHATEVER OUTCOME COMES OUT OF THAT NEW RUBRIC ONCE IT GETS VOTED, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE THE BECAUSE IF IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF COMMUNITY WHICH GETS AFFECTED, WE HAVE TO GIVE THE SAME TIME TO THAT COMMUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENDLESS PROCESS. THERE COMES A TIME WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT FAITH IN YOUR PROCESS, IN YOUR WORK, AND THE STAFF WHO IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT WORK, AND FOR ME, THAT WAS THE LAST BOARD MEETING, AND IF YOU HAVE TO START AGAIN TO ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO USE. I MEAN, ONE THING I REPEAT, WE WILL USE ALL OUR SURPLUS FUNDS THIS YEAR AFTER THIS, WHATEVER SURPLUS FUNDS WE WILL HAVE TO USE FOR NEXT ACADEMIC YEAR, IF OUR FUNDS ARE NOT CUT ENOUGH, THAT WILL AFFECT OUR RATINGS AND WE WILL BE LESS THAN TWO YEARS AWAY FROM CONSERVATORY, WHERE US TRUSTEES WILL NOT BE HERE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. STATE WILL BE HERE, SITTING ON THESE CHAIRS MAKING THE DECISIONS FOR US, AND IT CAN REALLY HAPPEN IN SNAP OF FINGERS. YOUR FINANCES CAN TURN REALLY THAT QUICK IN A MATTER OF A COUPLE OF YEARS. SO MY HEAD IS WHERE IT WAS LAST WEEK. I'VE GIVEN DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHY AS BEST AS I COULD, BUT I STILL SUPPORT ALL THE THREE MOTIONS WHICH DISTRICT BROUGHT FORWARD. OKAY, I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON FORWARD THINKING AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION, WHAT DO WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE COMMUNITY AT PINKERTON HAS BASICALLY ABSORBED ALL THE DAMAGES OF THIS PROCESS AND NONE OF THE POSITIVES, IT'S ONLY THE NEGATIVES. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH HELL, YOU KEEP ON GOING. WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD WITH AN INSIGHT SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START REBUILDING. RIGHT, BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW, AS YOU KNOW, I SAID MEASURE TWICE, CUT ONCE WE'VE CUT AND THE FIRST CUT IS THE DEEPEST PERIOD. SO AS I LOOK FORWARD, I TOO WANT TO AFFIRM THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AND FOCUS ON PROGRESS, NOT PERFECTION, AND SO HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS AROUND THAT. NUMBER ONE, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I WANT TO ZOOM OUT, AND THE VERY MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IN MOVING FORWARD IS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR OUR FACILITIES AND ZONING. THAT MAKES SENSE. WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT ZONING MAKES SENSE FOR FOR THE SCHOOL THAT WAS JUST CLOSED AND FOR THEN ALL THE REPERCUSSIONS THAT HAPPENED FROM THAT. SO NUMBER ONE, FOR ALL OVER 13,000 OF OUR STUDENTS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL. RIGHT. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE ON MY PRIORITY LIST. AFTER THAT HAPPENS, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR MANDATED PROGRAMS AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SERVING THAT. THAT IS JUST AN OBVIOUS CHECKPOINT, AND THEN NEXT IS PRESERVING AND SUPPORTING OUR CHOICE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FILTER, MY DECISION MAKING FILTERS THAT GO THROUGH. I LIKE I HAVE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THE PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU BEFORE THIS MOMENT, MY MIND, HEART AND SOUL HAS BEEN OCCUPIED WITH CONSOLIDATION OF A SCHOOL, RIGHT? THAT WAS OUR LEVEL ONE DECISION. WE'VE MADE THAT, AND SO NOW, MOVING FORWARD, I CAN COMPLETELY TURN AND FOCUS ON WHAT IS THE NEXT BEST STEP. SO AS I LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL THAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT TO US, I STAND BEHIND THAT PROPOSAL, AND HERE'S WHY. WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROS, IT MAKES SENSE FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE. IT BALANCES OUR SOCIAL ECONOMIC NUMBERS ACROSS THE DISTRICT IN A WAY THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD, AND I THINK THAT IS A PRO. IT IT SUPPORTS AND ENHANCES OUR CHOICE PROGRAMS. WHEN I LOOK AT NEGATIVES, I ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE NATIVE SPANISH SPEAKERS WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET WHO WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A BUS TO A DIFFERENT PROGRAM. ALTHOUGH I KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS HAPPENS WHEN THEY GO TO MIDDLE SCHOOL AT NORTH, AND I UNDERSTAND SEE THAT A TRUE CON IS THAT IT DISRUPTS THE CULTURE OF WILSON. I LOOK AT THAT IN THE FACE. CONSIDERATIONS THAT I WONDER IF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK ABOUT OUR PRINCIPLES AND OUR TALENT, AND COOPER HILTON AT WILSON IS INCREDIBLE AND HAS CREATED AN AMAZING CULTURE AND CLIMATE.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT DR. CARDOZA AT DENTON CREEK ELEMENTARY, AND I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT, TOO, THE FACT THAT SHE HAS BEEN A PRINCIPAL AT A DLI CAMPUS BEFORE, THAT HER HEART AND SOUL IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF DLI. I THINK THAT IS A CONSIDERATION. ALSO, WE KNOW WITH OUR TALENT THAT WE CREATE AMAZING. WE BUILD AMAZING LEADERS HERE, AND PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY LEAVE US. SO I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T RELY THAT THE SAME PRINCIPAL THAT SPRINGER IS NEVER GOING TO RETIRE, FOR INSTANCE, OR THAT OUR SAME PRINCIPALS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S CONSIDERATION STRATEGICALLY. WHEN I LET MYSELF DREAM AND OPEN UP, I GET EXCITED. FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THAT IF THERE WAS A VERY STRONG CONSOLIDATED DLI PROGRAM AT DENTON CREEK, AND THERE WAS A VERY STRONG IB PROGRAM AT WILSON, THAT BOTH OF THOSE WOULD FEED INTO NORTH AND STRATEGICALLY, THAT GETS ME REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE IT ANSWERS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY OF HOW DO WE CREATE A BRIDGE WITH THESE PROGRAMS TO HIGH SCHOOL AND SO FUNNELING THAT INTO NORTH AND BEING BEING OPEN TO IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY AN IB MIDDLE SCHOOL OR A WORLD CULTURE SCHOOL, OR HOWEVER THAT MIGHT EVOLVE. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PUTTING THE CHESS PIECES IN PLACE TO MAKE THAT REALLY HAPPEN, AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE DLI IS CURRENTLY DUPLICATED AT TWO CAMPUSES, I HAVE THE ASSUMPTION. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR AND OPEN, THAT I THINK CONSOLIDATION WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THAT PROGRAM. I THINK CONSOLIDATION WOULD BE A PLUS. I DON'T SEE IT AS A NEGATIVE. SO I KNOW THAT SOME OF US DISAGREE IN THAT SPACE, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHERE MY UNDERLINING ASSUMPTION IS. THE DLI IS DUPLICATED AT TWO CAMPUSES. IF WE CONSOLIDATE IT, WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT PROGRAM. RIGHT? IT WILL. IT DOESN'T LOSE THE IT DOESN'T. WE DON'T LOSE THAT OPTION. IF WE PUT IB IN A DIFFERENT PLACE AND SEPARATE IT, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE LOSE THAT OPTION, AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER CONSIDERATION I HAVE IN MY MIND. I ALSO COME BACK TO THE FACT THAT ZONING CHANGES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. AS YOU SAID, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE HAVE 400 STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. WE HAVE 200 ZONED TO PINKERTON THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS, WALKABILITY. THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AUSTIN AND PINKERTON, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CONSOLIDATION, A HUGE FACTOR, A PRO FOR AUSTIN WAS THAT IT WAS A WALKABLE CAMPUS. WELL, IF WE CAN GIVE, WE SHOULD GIVE THAT OPTION TO EVERYONE. SO AS WE LOOK AT WHAT TO DO WITH PINKERTON, THE KIDS THAT ARE ZONED THERE, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FEED INTO WILSON, WHICH IS THEN GOING TO PUSH UP, WHICH IS THEN THAT IS WHAT CONSOLIDATION AND REZONING DOES. IT PUSHES ALL OF THAT FORWARD, AND SO IF WE'RE DOING THAT, WHY WOULDN'T WE ALSO CREATE A FIVE YEAR PLAN TO STRENGTHEN OUR CHOICE PROGRAMS? SO WRAPPING UP WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW IS THAT I AGREE, BY THE WAY, THAT IF WE DO NOT GO WITH ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WAS RESEARCHED, VETTED AND BROUGHT TO US BY THE STAFF, THEN WE DO NEED TO START OVER. NOT NOT MAYBE FROM POINT A, BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE IT GOES TO THE SAME PROCESS OF VETTING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A STOVETOP AND WE TURN UP THE BURNER UNDER ONE SCHOOL AND THEY ARE ENGAGED, AND THEN WE TURN IT OFF, AND THEN WE TURN IT UP ON A BURNER IN ANOTHER SCHOOL, AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT, THAT THERE IS THE TIME AND SPACE TO DO THAT. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS IS THE BEST OPTION, THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED. I DON'T REALLY NEED MORE INFORMATION AT THIS POINT TO MAKE A DECISION, AND I WOULD WRAP UP WITH WHENEVER, WHEN I, WHEN I LEAVE IN A FEW MINUTES, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE CLOSE THIS MEETING TONIGHT, THAT THERE IS A VERY CLEAR CALENDAR AND PATH FORWARD WHERE WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS OR MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE ON. OKAY. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. SO, WITH THAT, DR. HUNT, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? I STILL THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS CLARITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SEVEN DIFFERENT RESPONSES, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SIMILAR, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. WE DO HAVE THE MAP OVER THERE, AND I CAN CERTAINLY GET IT OUT IF NEEDED, AND I KNOW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE EACH ONE OF EACH HAVE A MAP IN FRONT OF THEM. IT'S A SMALLER VERSION, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A DISTRICT REZONING SINCE MAY OF 2019. THAT WAS WHEN CANYON RANCH OPENED, AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE WENT THROUGH A MORE SIGNIFICANT BOUNDARY REALIGNMENT. IT ALSO AFFECTED NEW WEST AND, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF OUR SCHOOLS, AND SO YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS AS
WELL AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY WOULD YOU LIKE US TO START AGAIN TO MORE SPECIFIC? I MEAN, BECAUSE OUR GOAL OF THIS WORKSHOP IS TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IF YOU'RE NOT CLEAR ON WHERE SEVEN OF OUR HEAD IS, DO YOU WANT US TO START AGAIN WHEREVER Y'ALL NEED TO GO, BECAUSE WE PRESENTED THIS LAST MONDAY OR THE 30TH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND IT DIDN'T PASS THE MUSTARD THEN. SO, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE MOTION JUST AS A REFRESH THAT PASSED FOR NOT JUST BOARD BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE MOTION THAT PASSED WAS TO CONSOLIDATE PINKERTON INTO OTHER CISD ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION EXPLORE OPTIONS RELATED TO THE MOVEMENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM TO ANOTHER ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, AS WELL AS OPTIONS RELATED TO THE DUAL LANGUAGE IMMERSION PROGRAM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE MY ASSUMPTION IS IT WASN'T WHAT WE PRESENTED. SO YOU WANT US TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF THAT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION? YOU HAVE HEARD VERY CLEARLY WHAT TRUSTEE WALKER IS SAYING. YOU'VE HEARD VERY CLEARLY WHAT I'M SAYING. DO YOU WANT THE REST FIVE TO SAY VERY CLEARLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING SPECIFIC TO THAT MOTION? I THINK THAT WOULD HELP BECAUSE AGAIN, SEPTEMBER 30TH DO YOU GUYS WANT TO I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE WANTING TO SEE? I GUESS THAT IS THAT SHOULD BE THE CRUX OF THE QUESTION. IF WE DON'T LIKE WHAT WAS PRESENTED OR IF YOU INDIVIDUALLY DON'T LIKE WHAT WAS PRESENTED, AND I'LL THROW MY NAME IN THE HAT WITH YOU, TOO. I'VE ALREADY BEEN ON THE RECORD FOR THINKING THAT'S STILL THE BEST, BEST PATH FORWARD. WHAT WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU WANT TO SEE FROM STAFF? BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE. IF WE'RE BEING HELD UP, YOU KNOW, IS IT PROCESS RELATED? IS IT WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, I THINK IF WE'RE IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE, THEN WE'RE KIND OF SPINNING OUR WHEELS AND WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLES. SO I'LL LET YOU GUYS. ANYBODY WANTS TO TAKE OFF AND START FIRST. YEAH, AND THE COMMENT I MADE AT THE END ALSO WAS LIKE THE OPTION THAT WE HAD SHOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED FOR ALL THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE RUBRIC, HOW MUCH STAFF IS PUT INTO IT, HOW MUCH THE COMMUNITIES HAVE ENGAGED FOR ALL OF THAT, AND THAT'S I THINK WE MADE THE COMMENT SPECIFICALLY KIND OF AT THE END THAT'S NOT, AND THEN REFLECTING ON IT AFTERWARDS, REALLY, IT WAS THAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AND IS THIS THE RIGHT IS ARE THESE THE RIGHT CHOICES AT WILSON FOR IB AND DENTON CREEK, AND YOU GUYS HAVE, YOU KNOW KICKED AROUND THOSE FACTORS AS WELL. SO THE THOUGHT BEING OKAY WITH THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROJECTIONS, CAN WE CAN WE LOOK AT HOLD ON WHEN YOU SAY DEMOGRAPHIC, ARE YOU MEANING ENROLLMENT? OH YES, ENROLLMENT. SORRY. NOT WELL THE DEMOGRAPHER. THE DEMOGRAPHER. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE WORDS WE WERE USING. THE DEMOGRAPHER'S ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS. THAT WAS MY CONCERN BECAUSE COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO REALIGN AROUND AROUND HERE. I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE LIVE IN IRVING WHO GO TO WILSON AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES. OR RIGHT NOW THEY GO TO PINKERTON FROM FROM IRVING AND PLACES LIKE THAT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE CHOICES BASED ON WHERE THESE THINGS ARE MOVING, AND MY CONCERN WAS IF THE ENROLLMENT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUES TO DIP, ARE ALL THE CONCLUSIONS STILL THE SAME, LIKE WHEN YOU KICK KICK AROUND THIS THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS THAT WE WON'T DISTURB THE PROGRAMS AGAIN BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO THRIVE LIKE AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN ULTIMATELY. RIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AS AN ADMINISTRATION, AGAIN, AND JUST THE SAME REASONS THAT YOU CAME UP WITH AND THE THINGS YOU VETTED OUT TO LOOK AT WHY WILSON NEEDS IS A LANDING PLACE FOR IB AND WHY DENTON CREEK IS THE LANDING PLACE FOR DLI. DOES THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS CHANGE THAT? OR CAN WE COMMIT IN ANY SHAPE OR WAY OR SHAPE OR FORM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PROGRAMS DON'T GET DISTURBED IF THOSE ENROLLMENT THINGS COME TO PASS? THAT IS REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THAT'S IT. DO YOU THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF DO WE AND I'M OFFERING THIS UP. DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER CONSOLIDATION OF DLI, DO WE NEED SOME CLARITY AROUND THAT? I MEAN, HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL OVERALL? I MEAN, HAVE WE ANSWERED THE QUESTION OF DOES DLI NEED TO BE CONSOLIDATED OR IS THAT STILL AN OPEN QUESTION?
I THINK FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, IT DOES INCLUDE THAT, BUT FOR THOSE THAT MAYBE ARE HUNG UP, WHERE DO YOU GUYS STAND ON ON THAT? BECAUSE TO ME, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND ANYBODY BACK TO WORK, THAT NEEDS TO BE THE QUESTION THAT IS ANSWERED. THAT WAS PART OF WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN MY COMMENTS I SAID WHAT I DID BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE WHERE THE PROCESS GOT GOT HUNG UP, YOU KNOW, AT OUR LEVEL. SO WHERE DO YOU GUYS FEEL STAND ON THE DLI CONSOLIDATION QUESTION? SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. I MEAN, BEFORE I WENT ON A LEARNING WALK, I WAS FOR IT COMING FORWARD WITH EFFICIENCY. FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES. I HAVE ZERO QUESTION ABOUT CONSOLIDATING THE DLI PROGRAM FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES. WHERE I AND I WENT ON THE LEARNING WALK, HONESTLY WITH THAT, THINKING THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I STOOD, AND AFTER GOING ON THE LEARNING WALK AND THE THREE SECTIONS AND JUST SOME OF THE COMPLICATING FACTORS THAT COME WITH THAT, I BECAME LESS CONVINCED ABOUT THE COST SAVINGS, THE EFFICIENCY WITH TEACHERS. THE EFFICIENCY ONE ONE SECOND. I'M GOING TO BE JUST RIGHT NOW, AND AS FAR AS DISRUPTIONS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT TONIGHT. MY TOLERANCE FOR DISRUPTION IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY LOW. SO I'M GOING TO ASK IF EVERYBODY WILL JUST HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE, YOUR COMMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. THANK YOU. SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT I HAVE. NO, THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M LIKE A LITTLE STUCK ON AND, AND A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE STUDENT OUTCOME PIECE. SO AFTER GOING ON THE LEARNING WALK I WAS LIKE OKAY, WELL IF WE HAVE THREE SECTIONS, IF WE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS, YES, I THINK WE GET SOME EFFICIENCIES, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US AND VETTED AND RECOMMENDED HAS REALLY LIKE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE PLAY OUT THE NEXT 2 OR 3 STEPS OF IMPLEMENTING THIS, DOES IT REALLY STILL PASS THE TEST AND ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO? OR ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE UNINTENDED OR THAT WERE BLIND SPOTS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE THAT MAYBE SOME OF THIS DOESN'T COME TO PASS. SO I FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH IN THE IN THE WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE, THAT IF THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, YES, WE COULD DO THIS WITH FIDELITY AND STUDENT OUTCOMES ARE GOING TO BE GREAT AND WE WILL WORK OUT LOGISTICS BUT I JUST WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THERE MYSELF WITH THE MATH AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS AFTER GOING ON THE LEARNING WALK. SO THAT KIND OF BECAME A SURPRISE STUMBLING BLOCK FOR ME, HONESTLY, THAT I HADN'T ANTICIPATED, AND I KNOW IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE AND I MAY BE AN OUTLIER AND I REALIZE THAT, BUT IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE THE DLI THING, I GET THE PROBLEMS THAT CAUSES WITH THE REST OF THE IDEAS. RIGHT, AND SO THAT'S THE PART THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP FOR US TO TALK ABOUT FIRST THE OTHER NIGHT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, IF WE COULD RESOLVE THAT BECAUSE THEN THAT OBVIOUSLY IS LIKE PULLING A THREAD, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO AVOID DOING, BUT IT DOES. IT DOES PULL A THREAD POTENTIALLY. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH DLI AND WHY MY QUESTIONS WERE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT DLI. TONIGHT, THOSE ARE SOME LINGERING QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO, TO HELP ME MOVE FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE IN TERMS OF NICOLE'S CONCERNS FEEL THAT WAY OR HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEAH. SO ALONG WITH TRUSTEE BENTLEY IS THE THING THAT I LOOK AT, RIGHT? IS THAT'S A THEME BECAUSE PRESIDENT CAVINESS, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW, LONG TERM, RIGHT? IN THE SHORT TERM, I SEE THAT'S AN EASY MATH, MATH MATHEMATICAL EQUATION. RIGHT. YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU CAN GET THERE LONG TERM. DO WE GET THE STUDENT OUTCOMES, AND WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY AFTER OPPORTUNITY OVER THE HISTORY OF WORKING THROUGH THAT THE PROGRAM, THE OFFERING, THE SERVICE, AND WE STILL HAVE THIS STILL STRUGGLE RIGHT TO GET THERE, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FOR ME THAT CLARITY OF CAN WE GET THERE EVEN IF YOU COMBINE THEM? BECAUSE OVER THE PAST HISTORY, WE'VE HAD STRUGGLES TO GET THERE, RIGHT, TO GET TO THE OUTCOMES, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A SECRET. I MEAN, THE DATA PROVES IT OUT THAT WE'VE NOT HIT THOSE MEASURES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HIT AS A DISTRICT, AND SO THAT HAS BEEN MY CONCERN AND WAS A CONCERN IN THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THE OTHER NIGHT AS WELL, NOT ONLY THE SHORT TERM BUT THE LONG TERM, AND I'M GOING BACK IN MY MIND WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE WENT DOWN THIS PATH WITH LEE ELEMENTARY, RIGHT. WE HAD THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROGRAM AT THE TIME, BUT THAT WAS A CONCERN AT THE TIME, RIGHT, OF THE PARENTS, AND OUT OF THAT CAME A COMMITTEE. RIGHT, AND THERE WAS A COMMITTEE FORMED BECAUSE OF THAT RIGHT TO ENSURE THAT, AND I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE CASE AS WELL.
EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE, TO DO [INAUDIBLE], YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A COMMITTEE OF THOSE PEOPLE, THE FAMILIES AFFECTED TO DO THAT AND THE STAFF MEMBERS AFFECTED, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR THE COMMENTARY, THE CONVERSATIONS, THE WORDS. THERE ARE THESE UNDERTONES OF THE SUPPORT OF SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM WITH FIDELITY, AND I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER PART THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE IN THAT TO DO THAT. YES, MATHEMATICALLY, AND I BELIEVE THE STAFF WILL DO EVERYTHING, AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY, BUT THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT COME INTO THAT. THESE UNINTENDED IMPACTS THAT YOU COULD HAVE THAT COULD SLOW DOWN OR DERAIL THAT SUCCESS, AND THAT'S THE THING THAT I'M LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT EARLY ON IS THAT AS A BODY, WE HAVE BEEN HIT WITH THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE HOUSE BILL THREE COMES IN, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN HIT WITH THE EARLY CHILDHOOD READING AND MATH. WE'VE BEEN HIT WITH THE STUDENT OUTCOMES AND THE ISO, AND WE SAT IN THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL, ASLI, AND WE TALK ABOUT THOSE, AND THOSE THINGS DO GIVE ME PAUSE BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, EVERYTHING THE STAFF CAN DO, CAN EASILY BE DERAILED IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH BUY IN AND SUPPORT, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE PAUSE THAT I HAVE AND STILL HAVE TODAY A LITTLE BIT IN THAT IN THAT REGARDS. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL, I MAY BE PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS? I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED IT, NICOLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I, TOO, OR SEVERAL OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF SOME OF THE FUTURE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT GOT GOT TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL 6 OR 7 RECOMMENDATIONS WERE. PRESIDENT CAVINESS, [INAUDIBLE] TRUSTEE--OH, YEAH SORRY. MY BAD. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE FINE. SO I MY FOCUS IS ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR LAST MEETING. IN THIS MEETING THAT IS STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND THEN OUR BOARD PRIORITIES. WE SAID WE WANT TO BE FUTURE FOCUSED AND FORWARD THINKING. ALSO, THE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WAS SHARED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO. SO TAKING ALL THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, I DO THINK THAT CONSOLIDATION WILL HELP, MAYBE WITH RESOURCES STRENGTHEN THE PROGRAM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AM THINKING THAT HOW HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES? HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT THIS WOULD INCREASE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY AND ALSO STUDENT OUTCOME? I ALSO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT I REMEMBER FROM MY, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING TRAININGS AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER THAT OUR JOB IS TO GOVERN. SO WHILE I'M ASKING QUESTIONS HOW I ALSO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TRUST THE PROCESS AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REALLY, YOU KNOW, TEAM OF EXPERTS HERE WHOSE JOB IS TO DO ALL THAT. THEY'RE TRAINED AND, YOU KNOW, WITH DEGREES WITH ALL THIS. SO I DO WANT TO TRUST THE PROCESS AND STAY IN THE GOVERNANCE PART. I REMEMBER A QUESTION FROM ONE OF OUR YOU KNOW, TRAINING WORKSHOPS THAT ASKED, LIKE, HOW MANY TRUSTEES DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB? AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS IT SHOULDN'T TAKE ANY TRUSTEES TO CHANGE THE LIGHT BULB. SO I DO WANT TO REMEMBER THAT, BUT MY QUESTIONS ARE SOME WAY TO MEASURE THE FINANCIAL YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCY AND STUDENT OUTCOME MOVING FORWARD WITH, LET'S SAY WE ARE CONSOLIDATING DLI. HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE? HOW DO WE MEASURE? DO WE HAVE LIKE A CERTAIN PERIODIC SELF-AUDIT? HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF AN IDEA ABOUT THAT PLAN. I GUESS THAT'S IT FOR NOW FOR ME. THANK YOU. SO BENCHMARKS ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE? YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT ON THOSE THOSE AREAS? YES. ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON I THINK AS FAR AS THE CONSOLIDATION, I THINK THE CONSOLIDATION MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THE ENROLLMENT DATA AND THEN JUST CHECKING THAT ASSUMPTION, BECAUSE I SEE IT AS BEING LIKE
WITH THE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLAN RECORDS AND THAT IS A NEED IDENTIFIED BY BOTH THE PRINCIPALS AND THE CAMPUSES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TO BUILD TOGETHER AND BY CONSOLIDATING AND INVESTING IN IT, WHAT CAN IT ACHIEVE? RIGHT. AVERAGE BEING TAKEN CARE OF, AND THAT'S THE HOME FOR IT. RIGHT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GROW FOR AND I CAN SEE THAT FUTURE BUILDING WELL AND I THINK IT WAS OUT OF EXISTENCE FOR A LITTLE WHILE THE DLI ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING, BUT BUT NOW IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE GETTING, GETTING FRUITION AGAIN. RIGHT, AND I THINK THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING IT, THESE FAMILIES ARE GOING TO HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO CHOOSE THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE AS WE HEARD DR. BROOKS SAY BEFORE, IT IS THE CHOICE. LIKE IT IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THEM TO LEARN, AND SO IF THEY DO, THEN THE COMMUNITY GROWS. THEN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO CREATE LIKE A REAL CENTER OF EXCELLENCE, RIGHT, FOR DLI AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ATTRACTIVE TO OTHERS AROUND. IT'S JUST THAT ENROLLMENT DATA WAS MY HANG UP. JUST IS IS IT STILL THE RIGHT CHOICE? THAT'S IT. SO TRUSTEE BENTLEY AND I WERE PART OF THE MEETING, THE DLI AND EP MEETING. DR. ANITA SHE VERY SPECIFICALLY SAID DON'T USE DOCTOR AND HER LAST NAME, SO I'LL RESPECT HER CHOICE. SO SAME QUESTION WHAT YOU ASKED TRUSTEE RAVAL THAT CAME UP. SO AND AGAIN, THERE ARE STATE MANDATES TO IT, AND GUESS WHAT? STATE KEEPS ON CHANGING HOW THEY WANT TO EVALUATE, AND WE HAVE OUR OWN WAYS TO EVALUATE, TOO. SO SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP TRUSTEE MATHEW, YES, THOUGH IT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS, THAT COMMITTEE IS ALREADY TOOK OVER, AND DR. ANITA WAS VERY SPECIFIC THAT WE ARE GOING TO MEET MORE OFTEN BECAUSE WE NEED MORE WORK FOR HOW WE ARE CHANGING, HOW THE STATE IS CHANGING. SO NEXT MEETING IS ALREADY SET UP FOR NEXT MONTH, SO THAT WORKS ALREADY. GOING IN, AND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS PRESENT HERE ARE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE. SO IT'S A VERY INVOLVED COMMITTEE AND ALREADY IN ACTION. TRUSTEE BENTLEY [INAUDIBLE]. IT WAS A GOOD START. IT WAS A GOOD START. I GUESS QUESTION ARE WE NARROWING DOWN CLARITY OR ARE WE STILL NEEDING THERE? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING THERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE, AND AGAIN, MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 30TH AND YOUR PART ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHER'S REPORT AND THEN YOUR STATEMENT, MISS BENTLEY, ABOUT THE LEARNING WALKS. AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE AND JUST ALL OF THE CONSIDERATIONS, WE REVIEWED ALL 18 CAMPUSES AND OUR THREE ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS DURING THAT PROCESS, WE LANDED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL, BUT NOT KNOWING WHICH ONE YOU WERE GOING TO SELECT. WE WEREN'T REALLY SURE WHAT THE FINAL OUTCOMES WOULD BE. SO I GET SOME PUSHBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT, WHY DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO PINKERTON, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE PINKERTON. IT COULD HAVE BEEN AUSTIN. IT COULD HAVE BEEN NEW TECH. IT COULD HAVE BEEN NEW TECH, AND PINKERTON COULD HAVE JUST BEEN NEW TECH. IT COULD, I MEAN, THERE WERE SEVERAL OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHY WASN'T COTTONWOOD CREEK CONSIDERED? IT HAD THE LOWEST NUMBER. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT COTTONWOOD CREEK, AND WE ALSO TALKED A LOT ABOUT TOWN CENTER AND LAKESIDE, REALLY, THE LOWEST ENROLLMENT NUMBER NOW TODAY IS AT TOWN CENTER, AND SO WE'RE CONTINUALLY LOOKING AT THOSE SCHOOLS AND WHAT WE CAN DO NOT ONLY TO PLAN FOR TODAY, BUT ALSO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS, AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND IT WON'T BE NECESSARILY 7-1-1, BUT IT WILL BE PART OF THAT ACTION PLAN OR TACTIC NUMBER SEVEN, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE REVIEWING OUR FACILITIES AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE ARE BEING AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN BE, BUT ALSO ADDRESSING WHAT KIND OF ENROLLMENT DECLINES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN CERTAIN AREAS, AND SO THERE'S THAT PIECE THAT THE RUBRIC HANDLED, BUT THE RUBRIC, REMEMBER, DIDN'T FULLY ADDRESS PROGRAMS. THAT WAS SOME MORE THERE WAS QUALITATIVE DATA THERE, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF QUANTITATIVE AND, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE AND SUBJECTIVE INFORMATION THAT OR DATA IN THAT PROCESS TOO, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION LANDED OF, WELL, IS IT WILSON FOR IB OR COTTONWOOD CREEK OR TOWN CENTER OR LAKESIDE. YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM. WE LOOKED AT DENTON CREEK TOO, BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND YOU CAN SEE IT OVER THERE AND JUST TALK ABOUT THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR DISTRICT THAT WAS CHOOSING PINKERTON WHEN MORE THAN HALF DIDN'T RESIDE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR DISTRICT.
I WOULD HEAR THAT OFTEN FROM FAMILIES WHENEVER I WOULD TALK AT GROUPS, YOU KNOW, DON'T FORGET ABOUT US. YOU KNOW, WE'RE A PART OF THIS DISTRICT, TOO, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE LANDED ON WILSON, BECAUSE IT WAS THE CLOSEST ONE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT MUCH FARTHER THAN COTTONWOOD, BUT IT WAS STILL A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THAT'S WHY WE LANDED ON WILSON FOR IB. THAT MEANT THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME MORE SPACE THERE, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT MERGING THE TWO DLI PROGRAMS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE WERE BACK AND FORTH. WHAT'S THE BEST LOCATION FOR THAT? IS IT WILSON? IS IT DENTON CREEK? YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S LOTS OF OPINIONS ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, NOT JUST AROUND THE ROOM BUT ALSO ON OUR STAFF, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AND TRY TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY IN THESE DECISIONS, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO START WITH, NONE OF US WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. WE'RE MAKING THEM BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE AND SO YOU JUST WATCH THE NEWS AND OTHER DISTRICTS ARE DEALING WITH THESE SAME KINDS OF PROBLEMS, TOO. WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS BE TRANSPARENT. I KNOW I'VE BEEN CALLED OUT ABOUT NOT BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE I COULD HAVE BEEN. YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND REVIEW A PROCESS AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE, BUT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY THOROUGH ABOUT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. IT'S HARD, THOUGH, IF YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO A RECORD AND YOU JUST DROP THE NEEDLE DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RECORD, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS THE FIRST PART OF THE SONG. I KNOW THAT REFERENCE IS LOST ON A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT LISTEN TO RECORDS, BUT THAT'S HOW THAT HAPPENED. AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER 9TH AT THAT WORKSHOP, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS AND WE SAID, THESE ARE NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST. THERE'S PLENTY OF PROS AND CONS THAT WE DIDN'T MENTION JUST BECAUSE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO FILL UP OUR GRAPHIC. WE COULD HAVE PUT EVEN MORE THERE. SO AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE SO THAT WE CAN LET OUR STAFF KNOW. OUR PARENTS KNOW, AND OUR STUDENTS KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR CONSOLIDATION OF PINKERTON. THAT DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE, SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH HER ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH THE PRINCIPAL. WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE STAFF, BUT WE CAN'T TELL THEM SOME DEFINITIVE PIECES YET BECAUSE THERE'S STILL THOSE UNKNOWNS. SO WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A HOLDING PATTERN. ANY OTHER POINTS OF CLARITY FROM YOU GUYS OR QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS? COMMENTS? I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A LOT OF CLARITY, BUT I'LL THINK AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. I JUST HAVE THE QUESTION IN MY MIND. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 200 ZONED KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REZONED. I MEAN, THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE. THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, AND SO I JUST, THEN IF YOU WERE TO CONSOLIDATE, FOR INSTANCE. SO THEN IF WE SAY YES WE WANT TO CONSOLIDATE, BUT WE AGAIN WANT TO COME TO WILSON. I JUST THESE THINGS SEEM TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER AND, AND SO AT SOME POINT I AM CONFIDENT WHATEVER CHOICE WE MAKE IS GOING TO BE THE RIGHT CHOICE. RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON MAKING THE CHOICE RIGHT FOR ALL OF OUR FAMILIES, AND I THINK WHEN WE GET EMAILS, I JUST WANT TO SAY I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. SOMETHING ELSE I WOULD SAY IS THAT PINKERTON IS SUCH A BRIDGE TO OUR CHARTER, HOMESCHOOL AND PRIVATE SCHOOL COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE LOST THAT TO SOME EXTENT. THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF HAVING TO DO INTERVIEWS AND COMPETE IN THAT WORLD AND SELL THEIR PROGRAM IN A WAY THAT OUR OTHER CAMPUSES HAVEN'T HAD TO DO AND SO MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THAT'S A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE OF KNOWING HOW TO ATTRACT AND YES, ALL OF MY FRIENDS FROM PINKERTON ARE ALL FROM THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT, AND IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP. SO I KNOW THAT CONNECTOR, THAT GEOGRAPHY IS IMPORTANT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY OUT LOUD THAT PTO AND THAT GROUP OF PARENTS IS, AS ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES IS AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL, ENGAGED, ACTIVE, WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE AN INFUSION OF VOLUNTEERISM AND ENGAGEMENT AT WHATEVER CAMPUS THEY GO TO. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, AND SO I DO REALLY JUST WANT TO KEEP TOP OF MIND THAT PEOPLE CHOOSE THIS DISTRICT WHEN THEY BUY A HOME OR SIGN A LEASE, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THAT FIRST TODAY AT MEETING STEPHANIE DRAPER, I MET ANOTHER PARENT AND WITH HER LITTLE BABY, AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, AND SHE'S LIKE, WE JUST MOVED HERE FROM CHICAGO FOR THE DLI PROGRAM. LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THAT IB AND DLI ARE WHAT GET PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT?
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SYSTEMS AND STRATEGIES IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM ONCE THEY ARE HERE. SO, AND THEN AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS, VERY SPECIFICALLY DATES AND TIMES OF WHAT WE DO. BECAUSE I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT I GOT THAT, AND AS YOUR ONLY EMPLOYEE, I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE THAT, AND I NEED THAT BEFORE I CAN WORK WITH THE STAFF. THEY NEED THAT. THE KIDS AT PINKERTON ARE OUTSTANDING. THE FAMILIES AT PINKERTON ARE OUTSTANDING. WHEREVER THEY'RE REZONED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A GIFT TO THOSE SCHOOLS, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD RIGHT NOW, AND PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY, BUT I ALSO HAVE FAITH IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WHENEVER A DECISION IS MADE THAT THEY WILL WELCOME FAMILIES WITH OPEN ARMS AND THEY WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. THEY'RE NOT THE ONES AT FAULT IN THIS. THEY'RE KIND OF THE BYPRODUCT OF THAT, BUT TO OFFER ASSURANCES THAT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE THIS AS THERE'S NOTHING EASY ABOUT IT, AND I CAN'T THINK SMOOTH, YOU KNOW, SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE HICCUPS. THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES. WE'LL COME BACK AND REEVALUATE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THIS KIND OF A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, BUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING IT IN THE SMOOTHEST WAY POSSIBLE AND WITH AS MUCH GRACE AND DIGNITY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT THE PINKERTON FAMILIES ARE OUTSTANDING, AND WHERE EVER THEY LAND, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GREAT. YOU KNOW, I ALSO RECOGNIZE, AND I HEAR THIS FROM PEOPLE, TOO. DR. HUNT, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE DISTRICT. WE'RE UNHAPPY ABOUT ALL THIS. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE DISTRICT. I HATE THAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO LEAVE, BUT I ALSO GET THAT TOO, AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE HAVE TO SOMEWHAT PLAY INTO, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LAND OR NOT. WE CAN SURVEY, WE CAN ASK, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE HAPPY WITH THAT AND MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS. AGAIN, I HOPE THEY WILL STAY HERE, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE WRESTLING WITH. I THINK THE SOONER PEOPLE KNOW THAT, THE BETTER. THE SOONER WE CAN PLAN TOWARDS THAT, THE BETTER. THE SOONER THAT WE CAN TRY TO CALM PEOPLE'S ANXIETY AND CONCERNS. IB IS A GREAT PROGRAM. DUAL LANGUAGE IMMERSION IS A GREAT PROGRAM, AND WE WANT TO DO ALL WE CAN TO PRESERVE THOSE PROGRAMS. THAT'S PART OF Y'ALL'S PRIORITIES. IT'S A DISTRICT PRIORITY AS WELL. CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION WITHOUT AND IF I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, THEN IT CAN GET PUSHED TO ANOTHER MEETING OR DISCUSSION, BUT IT SOUNDS I THINK, WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, AND I WANT YOU TO TELL ME IF I HEARD YOU WRONG, IS THAT WE DIDN'T--YOU GUYS CONSIDERED IB AT COTTONWOOD CREEK TOWN CENTER, BUT, LIKE, COTTONWOOD CREEK, WAS ELIMINATED FOR DISTANCE REASONS BECAUSE IT'S ONE END OF THE DISTRICT FROM THE OTHER END. POTENTIALLY IF YOU'RE DRIVING CHOICE OR CHOICE FAMILY DRIVING FROM THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT AND THEN TOWN CENTER JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF COPPELL. I MEAN, DID I HEAR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT WAS. YES. DISTANCE. IT WAS YES, DRIVE-ABILITY, BUT IT WAS ALSO SPACE AVAILABLE. SO KNOWING IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THOSE EARLIER SLIDES, THE ARROWS WITH DIFFERENT CAMPUSES GOING IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME REZONING. ANYWAY, AS IT IS TODAY, THERE WOULDN'T BE THE ROOM, AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER MOVE SOME PROGRAMS OR REZONE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THOSE ALL THREE OF THOSE SCHOOLS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, COTTONWOOD TOWN CENTER AND LAKESIDE, AND I DO THINK THAT'S BEEN KIND OF AN UNFORTUNATE I MEAN, YOUR ANALOGY ABOUT THE RECORD PLAYER, YOU KNOW, DROPPING THE NEEDLE IN THE MIDDLE, I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG UNTIL THEIR CAMPUS GOT MENTIONED. WE WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT CONSOLIDATION, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE CAMPUS THAT IF WE CLOSED ONE, REGARDLESS OF WHICH ONE IT WAS THAT WE COULD DROP THAT ENTIRE STUDENT POPULATION INTO ANOTHER CAMPUS WITHOUT THERE BEING A RIPPLE EFFECT, BECAUSE WE JUST WE HAVE SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT ALL AT ONE PLACE. SO I THINK THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN LOST ON PEOPLE. I'M SORRY FOR YOU, BUT YOU KNOW THAT PINKERTON AND WILSON KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE BUTT UP AGAINST EACH OTHER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, AND SO WITH THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF DENTON TAP, IT MADE SENSE THAT NORTH LAKE WOODLANDS GOES TO AUSTIN. THEY'RE ALREADY OVER THERE. YOU COULD PROBABLY WALK OR RIDE YOUR BIKE THERE. SAME THING HERE WITH OLD TOWN AND SOME OF THE OTHER PINKERTON ZONED AREAS ARE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WILSON. ARE THEY ALSO CLOSE TO COTTONWOOD CREEK AND NOT VERY FAR FROM TOWN CENTER? YES. I MEAN, THAT'S THE THING ABOUT OUR THE BEAUTY AND THE CURSE OF COPPELL ISD WITH THESE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF CLUSTERED TOGETHER, AND THEN WE HARDLY HAVE ANYTHING DOWN HERE, AND YOU ALL KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T GET WE COULDN'T GET ANY LAND WHEN ALL THE HOMES WERE BEING BUILT, AND SO TO YOUR POINT, WE STILL CREATE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, THEY GO AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SCHOOL, AND SO A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS HAD DURING THIS PROCESS AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING MY UNDERSTANDING. SO AS FAR AS CLARITY, RIGHT, I THINK THAT AND, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED FOR ME, JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE NEXT STEP PHASE, OKAY, WE HAVE ENROLLMENT DATA, THE FORECAST. WOULD THAT CHANGE WHERE THESE LAND AT AND THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT GOT YOU THERE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE TEST, AND THEN HOWEVER LONG THAT TAKES HOPEFULLY NOT VERY LONG TO KIND OF GO UP AND SEE IF THOSE ARE STILL TRUE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD NEED, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE HEART OF MY PAUSE, RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPLANT, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO IT. FAMILIES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, WHAT THEY VALUE, WHAT THEY DON'T VALUE, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS CAUSES SOME HESITATION AND ANGST, ESPECIALLY WITH PINKERTON AS WELL AS WILSON AND DENTON CREEK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF IN LIMBO, BUT I THOUGHT MY HESITATION WAS THAT IS IT WORTH IT TO JUST AS I SAID, KICK THE TIRES ON YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL THE RIGHT WAY TO GO, AND THEN FOR AS FAR AS TIMELINE, LIKE IF I BY OUR NEXT MEETING, IF YOU CAN DO IT BEFORE THEN, I'M HAPPY TO LIKE DO IT AGAIN FOR A BECAUSE ALL THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE RIGHT. YOU'RE JUST LIKE REEVALUATING BASED ON LIKE WHAT AN ENROLLMENT PROJECTION COULD BE, AND SO YOU WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK IT, AND IF THAT COULD BE DONE BY OUR NEXT MEETING, IF IT COULD BE DONE IN A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE. THEN WE COULD. WE COULD CALL ONE AND HAVE THAT ANSWER. THAT WAY YOU COULD KIND OF GIVE CLARITY IN A DEFINED TIME FRAME. THAT'S MY GENERAL THOUGHT. SUMMARIZE I THINK THE QUESTION IS WITH THE UPDATED ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS THAT YOU GUYS GOT A FEW WEEKS AGO, I FORGOT WHEN THAT ONE WAS NOW. I MEAN, DID THAT CHANGE, I GUESS THE, YOU KNOW, YOUR THOUGHTS OR THE RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING? NOT REALLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE GOT AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU ALL GOT IT, AND SO US BEING ABLE TO KIND OF DIVE INTO THAT MORE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. FOR ME, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW, GOING BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL MOTION, DO YOU WANT US TO PRESENT ADDITIONAL OR DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR DLI OR IB? NOT REALLY. WELL, I GUESS, DLI, THE TWO OPTIONS ARE IT'S EITHER WILSON OR DENTON CREEK, OR IT REMAINS THE SAME. OR THREE OPTIONS. DENTON CREEK, ALL CONSOLIDATED DENTON CREEK, ALL CONSOLIDATED WILSON REMAINS THE SAME. THAT WOULD BE DLI, AND THEN IB WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE OTHER THREE SCHOOLS THAT I HAD TALKED ABOUT FOR TRANSPARENCY COTTONWOOD CREEK TOWN CENTER AND LAKESIDE. SO, ON THE DLI PART OF YOUR QUESTION, I THINK YOU LEAVE THE SAME THREE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN MY OPINION. MY QUESTION STANDS ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE SAVINGS, A RANGE OF SAVINGS WE THINK WE WOULD REALIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS MIGHT BE, TOO. SO JUST REALLY KIND OF VETTING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT IF WE CONSOLIDATE, IS IT REALLY GOING TO BE THE THINGS THAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AND HOW DOES THAT IMPLEMENTATION WORK AND SUSTAINABLE? YES, AND 100% SUSTAINABLE. SO JUST DLI AND THAT QUESTION WOULD PROBABLY STILL STAND FOR ME, BUT I DON'T SEE A REASON TO BRING DIFFERENT OPTIONS BACK, BUT TO THAT FIRST PART, BRINGING BACK THE SAME OPTION WITH REASSURANCES THAT IT CAN STILL WORK BASED ON THE NEW INFORMATION FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER, AND THAT WHAT ARE THE STILL CONFIRMING THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS COST, AND YOU KNOW, AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD AND COMMUNITY, IT'S OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, A LITTLE BIT LESS, AND AGAIN, WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHO FOR SURE IS GOING TO GO WITH THE PROGRAM OR NOT. WE'VE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HEARD SOME UNHAPPINESS WITH SOME FAMILIES AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT STAY WITH THE PROGRAM OR THEY MAY GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH AGAIN, I HOPE THAT NOBODY DOES, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A FACTOR, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S KIND OF THE SENSE FOR THAT OPTION, AND THEN ALSO, IF YOU ARE ASKING US TO BRING ANOTHER OPTION FOR IB WE JUST NEED SOME CLARITY ON THAT TOO. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, NICOLE, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR DLI. YOU JUST NEED CLARITY ON THE FINANCIAL PIECE. THE OPTIONS STILL ARE THERE LIKE THE OPTIONS ARE THE SAME, RIGHT? CONSOLIDATE ONE PLACE OR THE OTHER OR DON'T CONSOLIDATE RIGHT LIKE THE MOTION COULD BE ANY OF THOSE THREE THINGS. COULD BE, BUT I NEED YOU KNOW AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU LIKE MY HOPE IS THAT WE DO THESE AS SEPARATE MOTIONS. I REALIZE THAT MAY NOT BE HOW IT HOW IT PLAYS OUT AT A MEETING, BUT I DO WANT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE COST SAVINGS.
IF IT'S OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IT IS. SO I DEFINITELY NEED THAT, AND AGAIN, THE LONGEVITY, THE STUDENT OUTCOME PLAN ON IT IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE ANY BIG MOVES IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT SOME US HAVING SOME CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S GOING TO PRODUCE THE OUTCOMES THAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, ON THE STUDENT OUTCOME SIDE OF THINGS, I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE'RE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO DIFFERENTLY TO ENSURE THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT CONSOLIDATED. YEAH, I WANT TO POP IN HERE BECAUSE TRUSTEE BENTLEY I THINK FOR ME, THE OPTION IS DO YOU CONSOLIDATE AT DENTON CREEK OR DO YOU NOT CONSOLIDATE BECAUSE CONSOLIDATING AT WILSON WAS NEVER AN OFFICIAL OPTION, AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT YOU COULD NOT ZONE THE KIDS THAT ARE COMING, AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO YOUR POINT OF PULLING THE THREAD, IT WOULD REALLY HAVE TO BE AN ENTIRELY NEW PROPOSAL, BECAUSE IN DOING THAT YOU WOULD CHANGE THE OTHER OPTIONS. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I THINK THE CONSOLIDATION PIECE HAS TO STAY FOCUSED ON DENTON CREEK, AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE'RE BACK TO LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE. IT'S NOT JUST AN EVEN SWAP BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EVENLY SWAP. I JUST WOULD ADD THAT. WELL, BECAUSE YOU MOVED DLI UP TO DENTON CREEK AND YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, THEN YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERUTILIZED CAMPUS, AND THEN SOME WOULD ARGUE, WHY IS THAT CAMPUS STILL OPEN? YOU KNOW, WHEN OTHERS ARE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING BEING CLOSED. SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION, NOT BECAUSE OF THE CLOSURE PART, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHERN PART, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU START PULLING THOSE THREADS AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. SO TO BE FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED THAT AT ALL. SO WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT. WE DON'T HAVE THEIR THOUGHTS. SO I AGREE 100%. SO IT'S EITHER CONSOLIDATION AT WILSON OR NO CONSOLIDATION. OH SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT. CONSOLIDATION AT DENTON CREEK OR NO CONSOLIDATION I'M OKAY IF WE KEEP THAT VERBIAGE THE SAME. ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE ENGAGED ALL OF THE DLI COMMUNITY AT BOTH CAMPUSES. WE'VE HAD THAT INPUT. IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR ME IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SAYING WE'RE TAKING ALL OF DLI AND CONSOLIDATING IT AND PUTTING IT AT COTTONWOOD. RIGHT. SO THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD ENGAGEMENT FROM BOTH CAMPUSES, I'M FINE IF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDING ON DLI STAYS THE SAME FOR US TO COME FORWARD AND VOTE ON AND FOR IB WHERE WE, WHERE WE LANDED ON IS AND WE DIDN'T PRESENT THIS AS AN OPTION BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE WERE GIVING SO MANY OPTIONS THAT TOO MANY WOULD JUST HAVE BEEN TOO MUCH AT ONCE, BUT WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT OUR TWO KIND OF BOOKEND CAMPUSES. COTTONWOOD AND LAKESIDE, WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NEXT TWO OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, THE THIRD WOULD HAVE BEEN TOWN CENTER, BUT THAT WAS THE OPTIONS FOR IB, COTTONWOOD, LAKESIDE OR TOWN CENTER. IF DLI DIDN'T COMBINE AND IF WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT WILSON AS THE IB CAMPUS. DR. HUNT, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, I STILL DON'T GET HOW THESE MOTIONS CAN BE SEPARATED. IT'S ALL OR NOTHING IN MY HEAD, BECAUSE IF WE KEEP WILSON AT SEPARATE AND IB PROGRAM GOES TO SOME OTHER SCHOOL THAN WILSON. SUPPOSE THERE'S NO CONSOLIDATION, IB GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN HOW THE REZONING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT SET OF COMMUNITIES WILL BE AFFECTED. WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THAT DUE PROCESS TO THAT SET OF COMMUNITIES. I WASN'T ASKING FOR THAT. NO, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CLARIFYING. MY QUESTION IS FOR THE BOARD, BUT I'M CLARIFYING WHERE MY THOUGHT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. TO ME, IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. IT CANNOT BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT BECAUSE IF WE MOVE IB TO ANY OTHER SCHOOL THAN WILSON, AND FOR THAT, DLI HAS TO BE CONSOLIDATED TO DENTON CREEK. IF IT IS ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, THEN A TOTALLY THE GRAPH YOU SHOWED ON THE SLIDE WHICH SHOWED THESE SET OF FAMILIES MIGHT GO TO THESE SCHOOLS. THERE WILL BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF SCHOOLS INVOLVED. THERE WILL BE A DIFFERENT SET OF PARENTS INVOLVED, AND I DON'T WANT TO PASS ANY MOTION WITHOUT GIVING DUE PROCESS TO ANY COMMUNITY WE ARE AFFECTING. IN MY MIND, WHICH I SAID BEFORE, I'M REPEATING AGAIN, IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. IT JUST DOES NOT WORK IF WE BREAK IT. TO ME, IT'S A TETRIS GAME WHAT YOU PRESENTED WAS THE MOST EFFICIENT AND IF YOU BREAK IT APART, WE ARE STARTING NOT
FROM 0.1, BUT WE ARE PUSHING BACK WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS, THIS WHOLE PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW, THIS MAY NOT BE ACCURATE OR NOT. SO SOMEBODY ELSE MAY REMEMBER, BUT ON THE FIRST NIGHT ON THE OPTIONS, WHAT WAS IT 5 OR 6 THAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH THAT FIRST NIGHT. WASN'T DLI LISTED SEPARATELY? IT WASN'T LISTED AS PART OF CONSOLIDATING PINKERTON? NO, IT WAS EVERY OPTION OF WHEN CONSOLIDATED PINKERTON, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID IF WE HAVE TO RETHINK IT, GIVE OUR DISTRICT COMPLETE CHOICE TO RETHINK IT. BECAUSE IF YOU PLAN TO CLOSE PINKERTON, WHICH IS ALREADY PASSED; WE HAVE PASSED THAT MOTION. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY THAN THE REST OF THE OPTIONS TO GO THROUGH. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH. IT MEANS YOU CAN. OTHERWISE, WE ARE PUTTING THIS WHOLE PROCESS MONTHS BEHIND FROM OUR SCHEDULE AND WE'LL BE TALKING. WE'LL BE SITTING HERE IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY WHEN WE WILL BE PASSING THAT MOTION BECAUSE COME NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE SAME ENGAGEMENT FROM EVERYBODY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST THINK ON THAT ORIGINAL SLIDE, I DON'T THINK THEY WERE COMBINED IS WHAT MY IS, WHAT MY POINT IS. HOLD ON. THEY WERE ALWAYS SAID IF THIS HAPPENS, IT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS COMBINATION. EVERY OPTION MENTIONED THAT DLI CONSOLIDATES TO DENTON CREEK AND IB MOVES TO WILSON EVERY SCHOOL CLOSURE MENTIONED THAT. IT DID, AND IT WAS LISTED SEPARATELY AS AN OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED IF WE DID NOT WANT TO DO A SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION. SO IT WAS A STANDALONE OPTION. IF I'M SEEING NODS, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT. IT WAS LISTED AS A STANDALONE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER. YEAH, IT WAS AN A LA CARTE OPTION IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION, AND IF YOU GO TO THAT PATH, THEN OBVIOUS QUESTION COMES WHAT DR. HUNT YOU SAID IS THEN WHY IS DENTON CREEK OPEN AND BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO JUSTIFICATION TO KEEP SCHOOL OPEN WITH LESS THAN HALF OF ITS CAPACITY AND THEN COMES THE QUESTION, HAVE YOU GONE THROUGH THE DUE PROCESS OF LETTING THAT COMMUNITY INVOLVED? SO TO ME WE CANNOT PULL THIS APART. THIS IS A WHOLE TETRIS ANALOGY I TOOK IS A WHOLE TETRIS THING, AND YOU GOT THAT SLIDE WORKING FOR THIS GO AROUND BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE, AND IF WE DON'T GO BY THE WHOLE SET, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO COMPLETELY RETHINK EVERYTHING, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE OF BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THE MOTION OF CLOSING PINKERTON, AND THIS WAS MY POINT LAST TIME. HEY, IF YOU REALLY, GENUINELY WANT TO RETHINK, THEN GIVE DISTRICT AN OPTION TO REALLY RETHINK. WE DIDN'T DO THAT. I GUESS THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'RE MARCHING DOWN THE RIGHT PATH IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT WAY IS JUST THAT PIECE. LIKE IF IT WAS MY OPINION I WOULD SAY THAT YOU JUST LOOK AT THE EXACT SAME OPTIONS THAT YOU HAD WITH THOSE PROJECTIONS IS EVERYTHING STILL THE SAME, AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DOLLARS, MAYBE OVER TIME JUST TO VERIFY HOW THAT'S GOING, BUT THE PIECES STILL FIT THE WAY, THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE FITTING, THE WAY THEY WERE PROPOSED. I AGREE WITH VERIFICATION. ALL I'M SAYING IS WE CANNOT BREAK THESE THINGS APART. WE IT JUST DOES NOT WORK WITHOUT PUSHING THIS WHOLE PROCESS BY MONTHS BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO DISRUPT A DIFFERENT SET OF COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE SAME DUE PROCESS WE GAVE THIS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYBODY HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE. ABSOLUTELY. I THOUGHT SO BECAUSE OUR NORTH ALIGNED. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION, OUR NORTH HAVE ALWAYS ALIGNED, SO WE'RE VERY LUCKY THAT WAY AS A BOARD, BUT WHAT I'M DRILLING DOWN AND TO YOUR POINT, TRUSTEE MATHEW, IS WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW THINGS MAY FALL THE WAY I'M SEEING IT, THE ONLY WAY IT FALLS IS THIS ONE MOTION TO MAKE BOTH THINGS HAPPEN, OR THE MOTION IS NOT TO MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN, AND THEN WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE WHERE DR. HUNT CALLED THIS WORKSHOP. WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT DECISION TO CLOSE PINKERTON. THEY CAME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO DO IT, AND WE REJECTED THAT, AND WHAT CHANGED AND IF SOMETHING'S THE EVERYTHING IS DRIVEN BY A RUBRIC. IF SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE, IT WILL BE RUBRIC, AND WE DON'T WANT TO PUSH THIS DECISION DOWN BY MONTHS. SO I THINK I'M JUST GOING BY PROCESS OF ELIMINATION IN MY HEAD. THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THOUGH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING IS MORE LIKE PARLIAMENTARY STUFF THAT HAPPENS LATER VERSUS A DIRECTION TO THE
STAFF NOW, WHICH IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR BOARD MEETING MOTIONS WISE, THAT'S LATER. RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST EVALUATING THE OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED LIKE IN THE FORM THAT IT WAS PRESENTED, AND THEN GETTING THAT AGAINST IN MY OPINION. RIGHT. THE ENROLLMENT DATA AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT'S GOOD, AND THEN WE HEAR WHAT THAT IS. I DISAGREE BECAUSE DR. HUNT SPECIFICALLY ASKING THAT WAS THE MOTION PASSED. WHAT OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO SEE, AND BASED ON WHAT OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO SEE, WHAT WILL BE THE MOTIONS ASSOCIATED TO THOSE, BUT WE DECIDE THOSE IN THE MEETING STAFF DOESN'T DECIDE THOSE MOTIONS NECESSARILY, BECAUSE I COULD SAY, YEAH, I AGREE WITH PART OF IT, AND I DON'T AGREE WITH ANOTHER PART OF IT, AND I MIGHT VOTE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. IF IT'S AND THEN COMES WE LET'S NOT BE AUSTIN WHERE WE TELL MUNICIPALITIES TO DO SOMETHING WITHOUT ANY DIRECTION OR FUNDING. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE MOTIONS FOR THE DISTRICTS AND TIE THEIR HANDS WITH NO REAL WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY, IS WE CANNOT DO IT. THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION LEFT. SO WE'LL JUST TO KIND OF POINT VERIFICATION I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT I HAVE NOT HEARD, SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS, IS WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY NEW OPTIONS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, DR. HUNT, I THINK IT'S WHAT'S CHANGED FROM SEPTEMBER 30TH TO NOW. I THINK WE'RE STILL UNCLEAR, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT ALSO AT THIS POINT MATTERS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT PATH FORWARD, AND WE'VE GOT TO BRING CLARITY TO OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF, WHICH WE HAVE ALL SAID IS A TOP PRIORITY, BUT MORE THAN THAT, OUR FAMILIES WHO YOU KNOW, ARE LEFT IN LIMBO. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO WE I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY ADDITIONAL OPTIONS BROUGHT FORTH. WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT TRUSTEE BENTLEY HAS ASKED FOR THE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. TRUSTEE MATHEW, YOU'VE ASKED FOR YOU KNOW, JUST VALIDATING THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I CAN I CAN AGREE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MIGHT. MY ONLY THOUGHT ON THAT IS, IS I ALWAYS GO BACK TO BOB, RIGHT? TEMPLETON. YES. SORRY. YOU KNOW, HE'S ALWAYS WARNED US THAT, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO. YOU KNOW, THE ACCURACY IS HARD TO GET BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, SO MANY VARIABLES THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY PREDICT FOR THE OTHER THING I WOULD, AS I'M THINKING THROUGH IT. SO, YOU GUYS, IF MY THINKING IS WRONG, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW LINEAR LINEAR LINEARLY THE, THE TREND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THINGS ARE PROJECTED TO GO. WELL WE DON'T KNOW IS WHERE THAT WOULD BE AT. RIGHT. LIKE LIKE IT'S HARD TO SAY. WELL, SPECIFIC SCHOOL ENROLLMENT BECAUSE IT COULD BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POCKETS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN THE DISTRICT THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, TURN OVER AND THAT WILL CHANGE, AND WE HAVE SOME POCKETS THAT WILL AGE OUT AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO TURNOVER FOR A BIT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS THE UNKNOWN WITH, WITH CYPRESS WATERS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF BY NUMBER, A LOT OF UNITS COMING ON, ON ONLINE OVER THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS IS LEFT IN THEIR PLAN. THEY ARE LIMITED. YOU KNOW, BY A COURT AGREEMENT THAT 75% HAS TO BE ONE BEDROOM. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A TON FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY YEAH, IT'S NOT HAPPENED YET, AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A WISH. IT'S ALL AGES SO THE MOTION THAT DID PASS DID ASK FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE OPTIONS RELATED TO THE MOVEMENT OF IB TO ANOTHER ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, AS WELL AS OPTIONS RELATED TO DLI, AND THE DIRECTION I THINK WE'RE GOING NOW IS. SO I CAN SAY PART OF THE REASON WHY I SUPPORTED THAT PART OF THE MOTION, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, IS I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WHEN WE STARTED ALL THIS CONVERSATION, IT WAS BEFORE THERE WAS HEATEDNESS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS BEFORE PEOPLE SAID UGLY THINGS ABOUT PROGRAMS AND OTHER PEOPLE, AND SO FOR ME, I YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON I SUPPORTED THAT MOTION IS I DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF COMING INTO TONIGHT WHY WE HADN'T CONSIDERED COTTONWOOD CREEK, WHY WE HADN'T CONSIDERED TOWN CENTER, SOME OTHER LOW ENROLLMENT CAMPUSES, AND I, AND IF THE ANSWER IS PROXIMITY, BECAUSE WILSON WAS THE CLOSEST AND WE WANTED TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS IN THE CITY OF
COPPELL LIKE, BUT IF I WAS STOPPED IN THE GROCERY STORE, I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A GOOD ANSWER. I COULDN'T HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY THAT IS, AND SO FOR ME, THAT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY WHY I SUPPORTED THAT PART OF THE MOTION. I DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE DIDN'T. WHAT OTHER I KNOW WE CONSIDERED OTHER CAMPUSES. I DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THEY WEREN'T BROUGHT FORWARD, AND I DON'T NEED TO BE SUPER IN THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT A HIGH LEVEL UNDERSTANDING IS REALLY WHY I SUPPORTED THAT PART OF THE MOTION. WELL, LIKE I SAID, TOO, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT MOVING IB TO ANOTHER CAMPUS, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, BUT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LAND ON EITHER LAKESIDE OR COTTONWOOD CREEK. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE OUTLIER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT, WE LANDED ON WILSON BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE PROXIMITY TO PINKERTON. I KNOW THAT DOESN'T HELP FOR THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER THAN. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NORTHERN SCHOOLS. I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO MY PROXIMITY QUESTION IF. YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, STRESS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. YOU KNOW, COHORTS, AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE. TO ME, THE LOGISTICS OF IT MAKES SENSE, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE MAP, YOU KNOW. WHERE WE'RE AT AND, AND HOW THINGS JUST KIND OF SHIFT AND FLOW YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE WHOLE THING. DID MONDAY AND I STILL DO TODAY. SO NEXT STEPS FROM HERE. WE I MEAN, WE HAVE A MEETING ON OCTOBER THE 28TH AND THEN OUR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 19TH OR WHATEVER THAT MONDAY IS? DO WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE, I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT US WAITING. I KNOW OUR PHILOSOPHY HAS BEEN TO NOT TRY NOT TO TAKE ACTION AT WORKSHOPS WHERE WE CAN AVOID IT, AND TO KEEP MOST OF OUR ACTION ITEMS AT OUR REGULAR BUSINESS MEETINGS, WHICH ARE THE MONDAY NIGHT ONES EVERYONE'S ACCUSTOMED TO, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE BOARD IS, DO WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN WAIT THAT LONG TO COME BACK TOGETHER? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE DECISIONS SOONER THE BETTER, BECAUSE WE HAVE LEFT STAFF AND COMMUNITY IN LIMBO FOR WAY TOO LONG WITH LITERALLY LIVES BEING AFFECTED. THEY NEED WHATEVER. SAME GOES FOR STAFF AND COMMUNITY. WHATEVER THEY DECIDE, THEY'LL DECIDE BASED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR FAMILY AND FOR THEIR KIDS, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME THAN LESS TIME, AND AFTER THIS WORKSHOP, I WOULD SAY TRUSTEE CAVINESS JUST WORK WITH THE SCHEDULE. SOONER WE CAN HAVE THE MEETING. A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING TO TAKE ACTION, AND I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE A BOARD MEETING, NOT A WORKSHOP AND A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, THAT'S THE OTHER OPTION. WE DO SPECIAL MEETINGS. WE DO A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING WHICH THE 21ST WOULD BE THE VOTE. I MEAN, IF Y'ALL WANT TO SPITBALL IT RIGHT NOW AND WE'LL CONFIRM WITH TRUSTEE WALKER, I KNOW FOR ME, I COULD DO THE 21ST, AND THEN I'M OUT THE 22ND, 23RD, 24TH. SO YOU'RE OUT THE 22ND? 23RD AND 24TH. YEAH, I COULD MOVE SOMETHING AND BE AVAILABLE THE 21ST IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS. I GOT SOMETHING THAT NIGHT, BUT I CAN MOVE THAT. THE OTHER DAYS I'M OUT OF TOWN AND WITH THE, WITH THE LONG WEEKEND. WELL, THAT'S IT NEXT WEEK. FOR CLARITY, OCTOBER 21ST. IS WE BRINGING BACK WHAT YOU ALL. WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S THE SAME OPTION, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL CLARITY THAT'S BEEN ASKED, AM I RIGHT IN THAT? I WOULD SAY IT'S A, YOU KNOW, REEVALUATION OF THE SAME OPTION AND THEN CLARITY ON THE OTHER PIECES THAT WERE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'VE KIND OF SAID TONIGHT, RIGHT. THE OTHER PIECES THAT WERE CONSIDERED FOR IB AND THE RATIONALE FOR THOSE AND THEN THE TRUSTEE BENTLEY QUESTIONS ON THE DLI SAVINGS, THAT WOULD BE IT. I'M GOING TO GO WITH TRUSTEE SETHI BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I'M HEARING THE FACT THAT LET'S GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS MADE ON THE 30TH, BUT NOW I'M HEARING THAT LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR IB OTHER THAN WILSON, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. I JUST WANTED CLARITY. YEAH, I'M GLAD YOU'RE SAYING IT BECAUSE NO, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED US TO DO ON SEPTEMBER THE 30TH.
THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS THE MOTION. THAT WAS THE MOTION. RIGHT, AND SO, BUT TO TRUSTEE SETHI, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. IF YOU'RE COMING BACK WITH SOMETHING NEW NOW, YOU'VE GOT TO ENGAGE THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ENGAGED IN THAT CONVERSATION, WHICH EXTENDS THE TIMELINE FOR THE CONVERSATION. IT DOES I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU DID. YOU HEARD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO ENGAGE, AND THAT WOULD PUT A PAUSE. TO ME, HOW IT PLAYS OUT AND REST OF THE TRUSTEES CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AS WE BRING BACK THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE OPTION WHICH DIDN'T PASS. WE BRING THAT THING WHICH IS CONSOLIDATING DLI IN DENTON CREEK AND IB TO WILSON. WE BRING THAT MOTION WITH CLARITY TO TWO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. TRUSTEES HAVE ASKED AND WITH THOSE CLARIFICATION, THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE MOTION ON THE BOARD. THERE'S NO OTHER OPTIONS. IT TOOK US AROUND. WE'RE CATCHING THE NOSE THIS WAY A LONG WAY, BUT WE'RE BACK TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAD PROPOSED, BECAUSE THE OTHER THE OTHER THING TO THAT. IF THAT'S THE CASE TO COME WITH ADOPTION, THEN MEET ON THE 21ST DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. EXACTLY, BECAUSE TO BE CLEAR, AND SO THAT PEOPLE IF THEY WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE GRAPHICS, THAT'S WHERE THE REZONING COMES IN, AND THAT'S THE PART THAT'S THE BOARD'S, YOU KNOW, DECISION. THE PROGRAM IS STAFF, BUT IT'S KIND OF ALL CONNECTED, AND WE PRESENTED IT TO YOU IN THAT WAY. SO CERTAINLY THAT'S WHERE MORE, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS AND DIRECTIONS COME IN, BUT THERE IS REZONING AND ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS REALLY BECAUSE PINKERTON IS ESSENTIALLY CLOSED AND WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS SOMEWHERE. MY THOUGHT ON YOU GUYS BRINGING BACK WHAT WE VOTED ON, WHAT WAS IN THE MOTION THAT PASSED ON THE 30TH IS IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN IT'S CLEAR WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. IF IT DOES PASS, THEN THE COMMUNITY CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO TO ME IT SEEMS VERY IT'S MUCH MORE BINARY THAN MAYBE IT SEEMS ON THE SURFACE. IT FORCES US TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS IF IT DOESN'T PASS. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING YOU SHOULD JUST BRING BACK WHAT WE VOTED ON ON THE 30TH, NOT COME WITH A LAKESIDE OR COTTONWOOD CREEK OPTION. NO NEW OPTION AT ALL. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW NICOLE SAID THAT THE SAME MOTION FOR NOW, AND WE I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON THE ENROLLMENT DATA. FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY PIECE AND MOVING FORWARD STUDENT OUTCOME. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO PRESENT JUST YET, BUT JUST LIKE AN OUTLINE OF THE PLAN. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR OUR OCTOBER 21ST MEETING. RIGHT. SO, WE HAVE CLARITY AND A PLAN FOR THE NEXT STEP. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT. YEAH. ANYTHING FROM STAFF AS FAR AS CLARIFICATION? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM OR ARE WE, WE'RE PLANNING ON THE 21ST, WE'LL CONFIRM WITH TRUSTEE WALKER HER AVAILABILITY, AND THEN IT WOULD BE DUBBED A SPECIAL MEETING. 06:00 WOULD BE THE PLANNED START TIME AS OF NOW, BUT AGAIN, PLEASE DON'T MAKE PLANS ON THAT UNTIL IT'S OFFICIALLY POSTED, AND WE HAVE CONFIRMATION WITH WITH EVERYBODY. YES. YEAH, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH STAFF, TOO. I'M LOOKING AT THIS NOTE ABOUT AVAILABILITY OF THE SPACE IF IT IS OR ISN'T. YEAH, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AVAILABLE OF THE SPACE, MAKE SURE THAT OUR TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE CAN BE HERE AND STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE INVOLVED TO THAT POINT. SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR BACKUP PLAN IS, IF THE 21ST DOESN'T WORK SO THAT WE DON'T LEAVE THINKING THAT'S OUR ONLY OPTION IF IT FOR MEETING DATES? YES. SO THEN WOULD WE WAIT TILL THE 28TH SINCE MONDAY, RIGHT, BECAUSE AND DAVID'S OUT OF TOWN FOR THE WEEK. RIGHT? YEAH. SO THEN YOUR BACKUP WOULD BE WE STICK WITH THE STICK WITH THE 28. SO IF PEOPLE KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE BACKUP IS, IF THE 21ST DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT MAY NOT JUST BE LEE JUST LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, BUT YEAH, IF THE 21ST DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE JUST CARRY FORWARD TO THE 28TH.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. AS GOOD AS WE CAN BE. THAT WILL END OUR WORK SESSION. SORRY, I NEED TO PICK THIS UP, AND THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR OPEN FORUM. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'VE GOT A PIECE I NEED TO READ, AND THEN WE WILL GET STARTED. WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW, ABOUT 31, 30 SOMETHING TONIGHT, AND WE'LL DO THE SAME FORMAT. WE'LL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CALL FIVE AT A TIME AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LINE UP KIND OF BEHIND THE, THE PODIUM AND WE WILL JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT PROCESS GOING. JUST A REMINDER, SINCE THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND IT WILL BE IN THE STATEMENT TOO, BUT YOU KNOW, OPEN FORUM IS LIMITED TO THE AGENDA, AND SO IF YOU'RE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON, YOU KNOW, ACTION FROM A PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING, THEN THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE 28TH. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET OFF TOPIC, I WILL I WILL INTERRUPT AND INTERVENE ON THAT. THE BOARD ENCOURAGES COMMENTS ABOUT THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM CITIZENS OF THE DISTRICT, ITS EMPLOYEES OR FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. ANYONE WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, IN ACCORDANCE WITH WITH THE BOARD POLICY AND PROCEDURES, MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. THE BOARD ASKS THAT EACH PARTICIPANT'S COMMENTS PERTAIN TO PUBLIC EDUCATION AND BE NO LONGER THAN ONE MINUTE. REMEMBER THAT PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, DURING SPECIAL MEETINGS OR BOARD WORKSHOPS, PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO AGENDA ITEMS ONLY. THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT IS STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLAN IMPLEMENTATION. SO THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE OF THAT THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY ISSUES THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON OUR AGENDA. IN ADDITION, THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED COMPLAINT POLICIES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO SECURE, AT THE LOWEST ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL, A PROMPT AND EQUITABLE RESOLUTION OF COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS. COMPLAINTS BROUGHT BY EMPLOYEES MAY BE HEARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH POLICIES DGBA(LEGAL) AND DGBA(LOCAL) BY STUDENTS OR THEIR PARENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH POLICIES F AND G(LEGAL) AND F AND G(LOCAL) AND BY CITIZENS IN ACCORDANCE WITH POLICIES GF(LEGAL) AND GF(LOCAL). EACH OF THESE PROCESSES PROVIDES THAT IF A RESOLUTION CANNOT BE ACHIEVED ADMINISTRATIVELY, THE PERSON MAY APPEAL THE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION TO THE BOARD AS A PROPERLY POSTED AGENDA ITEM. COPIES OF OUR DISTRICT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN MEETINGS AND FILING COMPLAINTS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AT THE COPPELL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE, WHICH IS COPPELL ISD.COM. SO WE'LL START START OFF WITH OUR, OUR FIRST GROUP IS SHERRI HILL, INMA LOPEZ, VANCE HILL, ROBERT HILL AND ADAN LOPEZ. JUST AS WE HAVE BEFORE. AS YOU GUYS ARE GETTING MAKING YOUR WAY UP FRONT SECRETARY MATHEW IS OUR OFFICIAL TIMEKEEPER, AND HE'S GOT HIS ONE MINUTE CLOCK THAT WILL RUN AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HIS PADDLE BOARD THAT WILL SAY TIME WHEN YOU HAVE REACHED YOUR LIMIT, AND O H GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO AND I KNOW EVERYBODY GETS HEADS DOWN AND READS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THE TIME. IF IT'S OVER TIME, I'LL TELL YOU TIME. OKAY. YOU KNOW THE DRILL, AND FOR OUR STUDENTS, PLEASE. YOU DON'T DON'T HAVE TO STATE YOUR YOUR LAST NAME OR ADDRESS. SO YOU CAN STATE YOUR FIRST NAME AND IN SCHOOL IF YOU WANT, OR JUST FIRST NAME. SO WE'LL START WHEN YOU'RE READY. SHERRI HILL, 724 POST OAK DRIVE, COPPELL. I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS. FAMILY A, THE MOM WORKS NIGHTS AND SLEEPS DURING THE DAY. THE FATHER WORKS DAYS. THEY HAVE ONE CAR INTO FOR GAS. THE FATHER CARPOOLS AND SHARES THE GAS COSTS WITH THREE OTHER DADS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET. THEY HAVE THREE KIDS THAT WALK TO SCHOOL. FAMILY B HAS TWO CARS AND THEY BOTH WORK DAYS, AND THEY HAVE TWO KIDS THAT WALK TO SCHOOL, AND THEY ALSO CARPOOL WHEN FAMILY. WHEN BOTH FAMILIES LEAVE FOR WORK THE PRIOR DAY, THE MOM AND FAMILY A GETS THE KIDS READY FOR SCHOOL AND MAKES SURE ALL FIVE OF THEM GETS OUT THE DOOR AND GETS TO SCHOOL. IF ONE OF THE KIDS NEEDS TO COME HOME SICK WHEN THE MOM A GOES AND GETS THEM, MOM A MAKES SURE THAT THE KIDS GET HOME FROM SCHOOL BEFORE GOING TO WORK AND ALSO STARTS DINNER FOR FAMILIES A AND B, THIS IS JUST TWO OF OUR FAMILIES THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET THAT ARE IN THE DUAL IMMERSION PROGRAM. HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS VANCE. I GO TO WILSON DLI. I LEAD THE WAY. I AM REALLY GRATEFUL THAT I AM REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS
ARE LISTENING TO US ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO MOVE SCHOOLS. I WANT TO STAY WITH MY FRIENDS AND MY TEACHERS. THEY ARE LIKE FAMILY TO ME. I KNOW YOUR DECISIONS ARE TOUGH, BUT I THANK YOU F ROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR HEARING US OUT LOUD. I HOPE YOU CAN FIND A WAY FOR US TO STAY TOGETHER. THANK YOU. INMA LOPEZ, MY GRANDSON IS EXCELLING AT WILSON BECAUSE OF THE TWO WAY DUAL LANGUAGE IMMERSION PROGRAM AND THE DIVERSE CULTURES OF HIS FRIENDS. I'M AFRAID THAT IF YOU MOVE THE DLI FROM WILSON, THE EMERGING BILINGUAL STUDENTS WHO CURRENTLY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM AND LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND NOW HAVE MOVED WITH THE DLI PROGRAM WON'T BE ABLE TO MOVE WITH THE DAILY. PROGRAM, WHICH COULD LEAD TO THE END OF THE PROGRAM. IT WORRIES ME TO THINK THAT THESE EMERGENT BILINGUAL STUDENTS WILL LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME BILINGUAL. THIS WILL MEAN THEY LOSE THEIR HERITAGE, PERHAPS BEING ABLE TO SPEAK SPANISH, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO READ IT OR WRITE IT. THIS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT LOSS FOR EACH EMERGING BILINGUAL STUDENT AND FOR COPPELL. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEING BILINGUAL MEANS BEING ABLE TO READ, WRITE AND SPEAK IN TWO LANGUAGES. SANDRA BRIONES AND NATHANIEL RUBY. YOU GUYS CAN JOIN. ROBERT HILL 724 POST OAK. GOOD EVENING, BOARD, SAID A PARENT OF VANCE HILL STUDENT. I WANT TO PRESS MY GRATITUDE. AT LEAST Y'ALL TOOK SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AFTER THE LAST MEETING. I SAID, I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON COMMUNITY THAT WALKED AT WILSON DAILY IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THE NUMBER 75. I'M RELIEVED THAT SOME OF YOU AT LEAST PRIORITIZE THEIR NEEDS AND STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. SO KEEPING DLI PROGRAM AT WILSON IS AN ENTIRE WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILIES THAT CONTINUE TO ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THE STRONG DLI PROGRAM ACROSS THE STREET, AND WILSON MAINTAINING A CONVENIENT WALKING FROM SCHOOL. THE 75 IS HOW MANY WALKERS ARE IN THE DLI PROGRAM AT WILSON. 75 AND I'VE NOT HEARD Y'ALL TALK ABOUT ANYBODY WALKING TONIGHT. IF WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE NUMBERS, YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY FAMILIES YOU'RE GOING TO AFFECT THAT CANNOT WALK, THAT NEED, THAT ABILITY TO BE CLOSE. 75 FAMILIES. Y'ALL HAVE HAD THIS NUMBER. WE KNOW YOU ASKED THE TEACHERS FOR IT. WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT. WE'VE GOT THE NUMBER 75. I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. MY MOTHER MIGHT NOT HOLD OFF FOR THE NEXT MEETING. HI, MY NAME IS AIDEN, AND WHY I THINK WILSON SHOULDN'T SHUT DOWN IS BECAUSE DLI HELPS US LEARN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND IF YOU'RE IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH OR DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK SPANISH, AND YOU KNOW HOW TO SPEAK BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, YOU COULD HELP THEM SPEAK. YOU COULD HELP THEM LEARN ENGLISH OR SPANISH.
THANK YOU. HEATHER WOODARD AND JULIE WATERS. YOU GUYS CAN JOIN. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SANDRA REIN. OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS TO CLOSE THE DOOR TO OUR BEST CHANCE OF GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. WILSON REPRESENTS THE DIVERSITY SINCE MORE AND MORE CULTURES ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING TWO LANGUAGES. OUR CHILDREN ARE GOING THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS BECAUSE FOR THEM WILL BE AN EMOTIONAL IMPACT. THEY LOVE WILSON, AND THE TEACHERS HAVE MADE A LOT OF EFFORT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND IT'S NOT FAIR NOT TAKING ALL OF THESE WORK INTO CONSIDERATION. NATHANIEL RUBY. JULY 22ND, 2024. TIME PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE TITLED PROJECT 2025 PLAN TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS ALREADY STARTED TO QUOTE HERE'S HOW IT WORKS. CONCERNED ABOUT SHRINKING ENROLLMENTS AND BUDGET CRISES, DISTRICT LEADERS CONCLUDE THAT THEY MUST CLOSE SCHOOLS, OFTEN WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OR ANALYSIS, THAT IT SAVES ANY MONEY, AND INDEED, IT DOESN'T SAVE ANY MONEY UNLESS COUPLED WITH MASS LAYOFFS. THEY HIRE CONSULTANTS WHO COME UP WITH UTILIZATION RATES AND THEN RECOMMEND CLOSING SCHOOLS WITH THE LOWEST RATES TO RIGHTSIZE THE DISTRICT. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT UTILIZATION IS THAT IT'S STACKED AGAINST SCHOOLS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED HISTORIC UNDERFUNDING AND LACK OF INVESTMENT IN FACILITIES REPAIRS. PINKERTON'S ONLY FLAWS ARE THE AGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE NEEDING OF SOME MODERNIZATION. IF YOU HAD EXECUTED ON THE PROMISES THAT YOU MADE AND THAT WERE APPROVED BY VOTERS IN THE PREVIOUS BOND. NONE OF THOSE ISSUES WOULD STILL BE A FACTOR AT PINKERTON. CISD HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF EXECUTING THIS PLAN, PLAYING DIRECTLY INTO THE WISHES OF THE FAR RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. OUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER THAN YOU, MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE AS OTHER DISTRICTS AND FOLDING TO THE PRESSURE FROM AUSTIN. YOU NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO THE EXPENSIVE CONSULTANTS AND START LISTENING TO YOUR COMMUNITY. CALL VICKI WOLF AND JUAN ROLON. HEATHER. YEAH, SORRY. YOU'RE NEXT. HEATHER WOODARD. BOARD MEMBERS. I HAVE RESPECT FOR SOME OF YOU, BUT I CANNOT RESPECT YOUR DECISION. YOU HAVE NOT LISTENED TO US. NO MATTER HOW SMALL. OUR VOICES MATTER. OUR CHILDREN MATTER, AND YOU HAVE SHOWN YOU DON'T CARE. WHILE YOU'RE IN A POSITION WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN. TEXAS EDUCATION IS RANKED 23RD IN THE NATION, AND I BELIEVE CISD COULD PULL THAT NUMBER UP AND MAKE THE STATE'S EDUCATION MUCH BETTER. THAT CAN'T HAPPEN WHEN YOU GIVE UP THE FIGHT AND SURRENDER TO THE DIRTY POLITICS OF THE STATE. IF WE DON'T CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD TOGETHER AND SHOW WE WILL NOT GIVE IN, WE WILL GET NOWHERE. IF WE KEEP FIGHTING AND TAKE A STAND. MAYBE WE CAN INSPIRE OTHER DISTRICTS TO DO THE SAME AND ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN MATTER AND THEY ARE WORTH FIGHTING FOR. EVERY CHILD MATTERS. EVERY VOICE MATTERS. I AM HERE FIGHTING FOR A CAUSE I BELIEVE IN. WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN THE DISTRICT ANYMORE? WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE? PLEASE STOP THROWING THIS ALL AWAY. PLEASE HELP US FIGHT FOR OUR KIDS, COMMUNITY AND SCHOOLS. PLEASE DON'T BE COWARDS. PLEASE TAKE A STAND KEEP ALL SCHOOLS OPEN. TIME. JULIE WATERS 252 EAST BETHEL ROAD. SO THE IMPACT ON PINKERTON SINCE THE DECISION HAS BEEN JUST REALLY HARD. LIKE TEACHERS AREN'T COMING. I SEE ALL THESE SUBS ALL THE TIME. OUR TEACHERS ARE DEMORALIZED AND SAD. ONE TEACHER WAS LIKE, I HAD ONE MORE YEAR UNTIL I RETIRE AND NOW I'M SCARED. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO TALK TO THEM, BUT OUR CAMPUS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME, AND
I'VE SPOKEN TO NEW TECH, AND A THREE YEAR THING TO THEM IS LIKE A THREE YEAR SENTENCE. THEY'RE A FOUR YEAR SCHOOL. I KNOW YOU HAVE HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE, BUT I WANT YOU TO FULLY REALIZE THE IMPACT THAT PLAYS OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY AND MY QUESTION TO YOU WHAT IS THE LONG TERM PLAN? YOU WON'T CLOSE A SCHOOL NEXT YEAR, BUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR YOU PROBABLY WILL, AND THERE WILL BE A WHOLE 'NOTHER SET OF SCHOOLS OUT HERE IN PAIN. JILL HILL AND MEGAN [INAUDIBLE]. VICKI WOLF 617 GUILFORD COURT. IB IS A 100% CHOICE PROGRAM THAT NEEDS A LOCATION. CURRENTLY ZONED PINKERTON HOUSES NEED TO BE REZONED. THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IB IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU DO NOT NEED TO REZONE A CHOICE PROGRAM TO BE NEAR THE BUILDING IT WAS IN BEFORE. SO IF WE MUST CONSOLIDATE DLI, PLEASE LOOK AT THAT. WITHOUT IB AS YOUR LENS, IT DESERVES THAT ASSESSMENT. WILSON IS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT. IT'S A BIGGER PROGRAM. IT HAS NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT, THE TEACHER AND SUPPORT STAFF, HARD TO HIRE. RETENTION DATA IS AMAZING. THE MAJORITY OF EB LEARNERS LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO GROW, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR WALKABILITY DOESN'T MATTER AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE SAY LEAST DISRUPTION, BUT WE'RE CHOOSING TO CONSOLIDATE BIGGER INTO SMALLER. THIS IS NOT MAKING SENSE. THE WILSON COMMUNITY DOES NOT FEEL LIKE YOU ARE RESPONDING TO THESE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WE ARE BRINGING UP. IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR PLACING IB, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OTHER OPTIONS. YOU HAVE NOW TAKEN THAT OFF THE TABLE AND IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO US. THANK YOU. PLEASE HOLD APPLAUSE TILL THE END. GOOD AFTERNOON. JUAN ROLON JUAN GABRIEL ROLON, 303 FAIRVIEW COURT. BOARD MEMBERS, DR. HUNT, THERE WAS A LOT OF MENTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE SCENARIOS THAT WE'RE PLAYING, NOT PLAYING OUT THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO PLAY, RIGHT? WILSON STUDENTS STAYING AT WILSON, NOT MOVING TO DENTON CREEK. PINKERTON STUDENTS DECIDING NOT TO JOIN THE IB PROGRAM ANYMORE. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, CAN WE HAVE A SET OF PROJECTIONS THAT CAN HELP US LEARN ABOUT SCENARIOS IF THESE THINGS HAPPEN OR DON'T HAPPEN THE WAY YOU EXPECT THEM TO AND WE NEED QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE DATA. A COUPLE OF PERSONAL NOTES. AS WAS MENTIONED, PROXIMITY CONSIDERATIONS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED A LOT FOR WHY WE'RE MOVING PINKERTON TO WILSON, BUT THOSE SAME CONSIDERATIONS ARE NOT BEING APPLIED FOR WILSON STUDENTS THAT LIVE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OUR CAMPUS, AND REALLY, THE WAY I FEEL IS THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY CLOSING PINKERTON, WE'RE ALSO CLOSING WILSON. THANK YOU. LINDA MELNICK AND ROSEMAN [INAUDIBLE], YOU CAN JOIN UP FRONT. HI, I'M JILL HILL, AND I LIVE AT 736 PARKWAY BOULEVARD. I'M HERE TO PLEAD FOR A QUICK RESOLUTION. THE 21ST SEEMS TOO FAR, AND IF WE WAIT THAT LONG, I FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T AFFORD FOR IT NOT TO BE RESOLVED THAT NIGHT. SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THESE DATES. KNOWING THAT PINKERTON WILL CLOSE WAS REALLY HARD, BUT KNOWING THAT A PLAN FOR OUR KIDS AND TEACHERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ONE YET IS EVEN HARDER. THE GAP LEFT BY THAT UNCERTAINTY MADE ROOM FOR UGLINESS TO GROW IN OUR COMMUNITY. PINKERTON DESERVES, FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR TO BE FULL OF LOVE AND CELEBRATION OF WHAT AN AMAZING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY IT HAS BEEN FOR MANY DECADES. OUR KIDS AND TEACHERS DESERVE TO FEEL SECURE AND TO HAVE AS NORMAL OF A YEAR AS POSSIBLE, AND WE CAN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT UNTIL WE KNOW OUR PLAN. WE KNOW THAT OUR FUNDING AND ENROLLMENT PROBLEMS AREN'T GOING AWAY, NOR WILL THEY BE CHANGED OR FIXED BY THIS DECISION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE, BUT PLEASE DON'T LET THE BURDEN OF WHAT'S COMING NEXT DISTRACT YOU FROM FOCUSING ON WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH NOW. HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT A SUCCESSFUL TRANSITION THAT HONORS THE TEACHERS AND KIDS WHO WILL BE MOST AFFECTED? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO TRULY SET UP IB TO THRIVE AND GROW. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO UPHOLD THE PRIORITY OF ENSURING THAT WE RETAIN AND CARE FOR OUR STAFF? PLEASE LET THOSE QUESTIONS DRIVE YOUR DECISIONS RIGHT NOW AND ANSWER THEM QUICKLY. THANKS. GLORIA ARROYO AND [INAUDIBLE] DAVILA. YOU GUYS CAN JOIN UP FRONT. MEGAN [INAUDIBLE] 752 MARLEY CIRCLE. TRUSTEE MATHEW MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE THESE PROGRAMS TO PLACES WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE. WE WANT TO GET THEM ROOTS RIGHT AND WE WANT THEM TO GROW AND I REALLY WOULD ARGUE, PLEASE CONSIDER THE PUTTING THE DLI AT WILSON BECAUSE WILSON HAS THE ROOTS. WILSON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW. WILSON HAS THE COMMUNITIES RIGHT THERE THAT ARE WALKABLE, AND WILSON HAS HAD THE MOST STABLE PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF DLI, WITH A MAXIMUM CHANGE OF 19 STUDENTS FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST ENROLLMENT. IT HAS THE ROOTS. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ROOTS. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE I ALSO THINK THAT YOU KNOW THERE IS THERE'S OPPORTUNITY.
ANY OF THESE PLANS IS GOING TO REQUIRE REZONING. AS DR. HUNT MENTIONED TONIGHT, THESE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT IB COULD GO TO MAY ALSO REQUIRE REZONING. ALL PLANS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE REZONING. DON'T TAKE SOMETHING THAT HAS STRONG ROOTS AND HAVE WE HAVE ALREADY DISRUPTED IB. WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE ROOTS OUT OF TWO PROGRAMS WHEN WE CAN ADJUST FOR ONE AND THEN KEEP THE OTHER. SORRY. TIME. THANK YOU. MELINDA MELNICK, 914 EAST BETHEL SCHOOL ROAD. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WILSON DLI FAMILIES CHOOSE TO STAY AT WILSON? THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE CERTAINTY IS TO PUT THE IB AT A CAMPUS WITHOUT A CHOICE PROGRAM AND REZONE. DO NOT CONFLATE ZONING OF PINKERTON WITH LOCATION OF THE IB. YOU CAN REZONE TO WILSON AND AUSTIN AND FAMILIES CAN CHOOSE IB AT ANOTHER CAMPUS, WHICH 45% ARE ALREADY DOING. CONSOLIDATION CAPS THE DLI LEAVING NO ROOM FOR GROWTH. MULTIPLE LEARNERS WHO WANT IN ARE LEFT ON THE WAITLIST EVERY YEAR. COPPELL HAS THE TEACHERS, THE STRUCTURE AND THE DEMAND. DON'T ELIMINATE THE SEATS. GET CREATIVE WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT AND FILL THEM. GIVE DR. ANITA THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THE PROGRAM, ENGAGE HER IN THE PROCESS, AND TRUST HER EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE. GIVE HER AND THE PARENT COMMUNITY A CHANCE. THERE ARE FIVE SCHOOLS, NOT COUNTING NEW TECH WHERE THE IB COULD THRIVE WITHOUT HURTING THE DLI. PICK ONE OF THOSE. DON'T CAP. DON'T CONSOLIDATE. DON'T ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF GROWTH FOR THE DLI. ROSEMEAD 729 SOUTH COPPELL. SO AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE BOARD MEETING TODAY, I'M A PINKERTON PARENT, AND THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT SOME CONCERNS I HAVE. CAN WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO MOVE IB. I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THE PINKERTON PARENTS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE MOVE IT, WE MIGHT LOSE IT, AND THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF US FEEL BETTER IF WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A PLAN AND THE THINGS THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN FIND IS THERE A WAY THAT ALL THE STUDENTS AT PINKERTON CAN MOVE WITH THE PROGRAM? IS THERE A WAY TO STAGGER CLOSING PINKERTON AND IB? MAYBE WE DON'T DO IT IN ONE YEAR. MAYBE WE DO IT IN TWO YEAR, TWO YEARS SO THAT ALL THE STUDENTS CAN MOVE TO WHICHEVER SCHOOL YOU GUYS DECIDE. THAT WAY, EVERYONE THAT CHOICED IN, WHICH IS LIKE 40%, DOESN'T GET LEFT OUT. ANOTHER THING THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME IS IF WE ARE MOVING TO WILSON. IS THERE A WAY TO FURTHER SUPPORT THE AT RISK KIDS? CAN WE USE BOTH DENTON CREEK AND WILSON FOR ANY SORT OF SCHOOL EVENTS THEY HAVE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHANE, YOU'LL BE AFTER MS. DAVILA YEP. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VALERIA AND I AM A FORMER WILSON RANGER. I BELIEVE THAT KIDS ARE THE FUTURE OF THE SOCIETY, AND HAVING THE DLI PROGRAM ONLY IN ONE SCHOOL WOULDN'T HELP. TAKING AWAY SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND TEACHERS ARE NOT GOOD FOR US. I BELIEVE WE DESERVE THE BEST EDUCATION IN ORDER TO BE BETTER ADULTS. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU TAKE THE DLI PROGRAM AWAY FROM WILSON, YOU ARE ALSO TAKING THE CHANCES FROM PEOPLE WHOSE FIRST LANGUAGE IS NOT ENGLISH. PLEASE DON'T TAKE WILSON'S DLI PROGRAM AWAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE CONSIDER. KARISHMA HUSSAIN AND SIERRA FORD. GOOD AFTERNOON. DLI PROGRAM AT WILSON IS A GREAT AND VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM FOR THE MASTERY OF BOTH LANGUAGES.
IT IS KEY FOR GIVING ALL THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO OUR CHILDREN WHO KNOW AND WANT TO LEARN TWO LANGUAGES OR MORE. WILSON IS A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR FORMING A MULTICULTURAL AND FAMILY ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT. IT WON'T BE THE SAME FOR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND HAVE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB. THE CHANGE WILL BE VERY IMPACTFUL FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. ADMINISTRATORS AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES. YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR FUTURE BILINGUAL GENERATIONS. CLOSING OR MERGING AT SCHOOL WITH THIS PROGRAM. IT IS NOT THE BEST OPTION FOR OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES IN A VERY IMPORTANT DISTRICT, WHICH IS BASED ON [INAUDIBLE], AMONG THE BEST TEN IN TEXAS AND THE BEST DISTRICTS IN TEXAS WITH THE NUMBER FOUR PLACE AND ADMINISTRATORS AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES DON'T CLOSE WILSON. DLI THE BEST PERSON WHO CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE BILINGUAL PROGRAM IS DR. ANITA DE LA ISLA. HI, I'M SHANE POPE 313 MEADOWCREEK. I'M GIVING A LESSON IN CIVICS AND TIME MANAGEMENT. OH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IB MOVED TO TOWN CENTER THIS WHOLE TIME BECAUSE TOWN CENTER HAS THE. WELL, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WAS THE LOWEST ENROLLMENT AND NOT LOWEST, MAYBE, MAYBE SOMEWHERE DOWN THERE, BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY HIGH ON THE RUBRIC. IT'S ALSO VERY CENTRALIZED, AND SO IT'S VERY EASY TO SLIGHTLY REZONE THAT SCHOOL AND THEN MAKE IT LIKE A 400 PERSON CHOICE SCHOOL, WHICH MEANS THAT, LIKE RIGHT NOW, PINKERTON IS A FIVE MINUTE DRIVE FROM MY HOUSE, AND TOWN CENTER IS A FIVE MINUTE DRIVE FROM MY HOUSE. SO IF YOU ENDED UP TALKING ABOUT COTTONWOOD CREEK AND LAKESIDE IT WOULD BE NICE IF TOWN CENTER WAS INCLUDED IN THAT, BECAUSE. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. SORRY. THANKS. JENNIFER CAO AND PRASAD [INAUDIBLE]. YOU GUYS CAN JOIN UP FRONT. KARISHMA HUSSAIN, 817 HALL DRIVE. WE ARE AT A LOSS AS WHAT TO SAY AT THIS POINT, EVERYTHING HAS FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. WE HAVE GIVEN YOU 200 MINUTES OF MONOLOGUE, SPEECHES, THOUSANDS OF EMAILS WITH CANNED RESPONSES. NOTHING HAS MOVED YOUR METER. YOU CLAIMED TRANSPARENCY. WE ARE MISSING DATA TO CONNECT THE DOTS FROM RUBRIC DATA RESULTS TO FILTRATION PROCESS RESULTS. IF YOU HAD COMPLETE FAITH IN THE RUBRIC, PINKERTON WOULD NOT BE THE NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO SCHOOL OF FOCUS FOR CLOSURE. WHY ARE CHOICE PROGRAMS NOT A CRITERIA FOR IMMUNITY, BUDGET, ENROLLMENT EFFICIENCY ARE NOT VALID. ARGUMENTS TO CLOSE PINKERTON. THE DISTRICT HAS ENCOURAGED US TO COME TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS, AND YET, WHEN WE AS PARENTS COLLABORATE TO DEFEND THE DLI AND IB PROGRAMS, WE ARE LABELED [INAUDIBLE]. WHEN WE AS PARENTS COLLABORATE TO INFORM, GIVE VOICE TO AND PROVIDE TRANSACTIONAL SERVICES TO OUR SPANISH SPEAKING. SORRY. TIME. SIERRA FORD 800 HOWELL DRIVE. THE DISTRICT HAS ENCOURAGED US TO COME TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS, AND YET, WHEN WE AS PARENTS COLLABORATE TO DEFEND THE DLI AND IB PROGRAMS, WE ARE LABELED DIVISIVE WHEN WE AS PARENTS COLLABORATE TO INFORM, GIVE VOICE TO AND PROVIDE TRANSLATIONAL SERVICES TO OUR SPANISH SPEAKING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE LABELED AS EXPLOITIVE. SO WHAT IS THE LESSON LEARNED FROM THE PAST FIVE WEEKS? WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE DECISION TO CLOSE A SCHOOL AND HOW IT WILL HAPPEN IS COMPLETELY NOT UP TO US AT ALL. THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. THIS IS AN OLIGARCHY. SO WE REMIND YOU, OUR OLIGARCHS OF YOUR DUTIES. DO NOT SIMPLY BLINDLY ACCEPT ADMIN'S SUGGESTIONS. IF THAT WAS YOUR ROLE, WE WOULDN'T NEED YOU TO CHANGE THE LIGHT BULB. DOUBLE CHECK THE DATA. ASK QUESTIONS. HAVE YOU FILLED IN THE IMPORTANT GAPS WE'VE POINTED OUT? MELD THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSALS WITH THE NEEDS AND CONCERNS OF THE CONSTITUENTS YOU REPRESENT. LOOK AT YOUR ROOM. WE STILL HAVE CONCERNS. RECOGNIZE ASKING QUESTIONS IS NOT DEFIANCE, BUT AN ACT OF INVESTMENT AND CARING IN THE ISSUES AT HAND. PLEASE CHEW ON THE FOLLOWING. YOU ARE MOVING A CHOICE PROGRAM THAT HAS STRONG ROOTS IN ITS THRIVING. YOU DECIDED TO MOVE IT WITHOUT A CLEAR PLAN. LET IT BE KNOWN THERE ARE NO SMOOTH OPTIONS TO MOVING THE IB PROGRAM. THE ADMIN GAVE YOU OTHER THREE OPTIONS WHICH YOU DIDN'T DISCUSS PAST. TIME. WE HAVE IS PRASAD [INAUDIBLE] STILL HERE? ALSO BRIAN [INAUDIBLE] AND YIN YIN WU. YOU GUYS CAN JOIN. SORRY. YOU CAN GO AHEAD. SLOWLY GETTING BETTER.
ALL RIGHT. SO JEN CAO 484. SO LET'S STEP BACK FOR A MOMENT AND ANALYZE WHY YOU'RE NO CLOSER TO WHERE YOU WERE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, YOU VOTED TO VOTE DOWN THE PLAN, TO VOTE TO MOVE PINKERTON TO WILSON, AND THEN AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU VOTED TO CLOSE PINKERTON WITHOUT A PLAN IN PLACE, AND SO NOW YOU ARE HERE TODAY, REALIZING WHAT BRAD HAD SAID ALL ALONG, THAT THERE IS NO BETTER WAY TO MOVE PINKERTON ANYWHERE ELSE THAN TO WILSON, WHICH IS A BAD PLAN AT BEST. YOU'VE ALREADY DECIDED THAT NOW YOU'RE STUCK BECAUSE THERE'S NO SMOOTH WAYS TO MOVE THE IB PROGRAM, AND FURTHERMORE, CLOSING PINKERTON SOLVES NEITHER YOUR BUDGET NOR YOUR ENROLLMENT PROBLEMS. YOU'RE TRYING TO FIT A SIZE TEN WAIST AND A SIZE FIVE PAIR OF JEANS. SO STOP TRYING TO FIT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE. DON'T MOVE IT AND DON'T LOSE IT. I WANT TO SHOW YOU YOUR SOLUTION. IT'S ALREADY RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR NOSES. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ALREADY DONE THE WORK FOR YOU, AND IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. GO BACK. LOOK AT MY EMAIL. GO BACK AND LOOK AT PAGE FOUR OF THE RUBRIC. THE ADMINISTRATION NARROWED ALL THE OPTIONS DOWN TO SEVEN PERMUTATIONS. YOU DISCUSSED FOUR AND YOU VOTED DOWN FOUR. THERE ARE THREE MORE LEFT. LOOK AT THE OTHER OPTIONS. THE ADMIN HAS--TIME. HI, I'M BRIAN [INAUDIBLE]. I LIVE AT 748 SOUTH COPPELL ROAD. I'M A NEW FACE, BUT MAYBE NOT A NEW NAME FOR YOU, AS I'VE SENT SEVERAL EMAILS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THESE DECISIONS FOR MY WILSON DLI SON AND MY FUTURE WILSON DLI SON, AND I WANTED TO JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT I'M THINKING AND WHAT I'M FEELING. SO FIRST, I THINK WE DON'T HAVE CLARITY AND THAT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE. SO IT'S UNCLEAR WHY YOU CAN'T PULL ON THE THREAD. IT'S UNCLEAR WHY YOU FEEL SO HEAVILY INVESTED IN THESE ALL OR NOTHING OPTIONS, AND SO I HAD TO GO LOOK UP THE SPECIFIC DEFINITION, BUT THE SUNK COST FALLACY IS OUR TENDENCY TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON A DECISION THAT WE'RE HEAVILY INVESTED IN TIME, MONEY, EFFORT, ENERGY, EVEN WHEN GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, IS THE BETTER DECISION. SO I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO START OVER, BUT BOY, TO NOT CONSIDER WILSON AS BEING THE CONSOLIDATING DLI TO NOT CONSIDER OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IS HARD TO DIGEST. [INAUDIBLE] AND SEAN HESTER. HI, MY NAME IS YIN YIN. MY ADDRESS 1132 HEMINGWAY LANE IN OUR COUNTRY. THERE ARE MANY SCHOOLS OVER A CENTURY OLD. THEY ARE NOT CLOSING BECAUSE THEY ARE OLD. THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MANY DIFFICULT SITUATIONS, CHALLENGING, INCLUDING DEPRESSION. THOSE SCHOOLS BECOME THE TOP SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY AND IN THE WORLD. I KNOW HOW TO MENTION TO YOU WHICH SCHOOL IN THE TIME YOU ARE FOCUSING CLOSING THE SCHOOL. CLOSING THE PINKERTON. WHY NOT YOU PAY ATTENTION LIKE, OKAY, I WANT TO MAKE MY SCHOOL MY DISTRICT BETTER. SO THE ENROLLMENT DECREASED BY THE TIME WE WILL NOT BE THE ISSUE ANYMORE. THINK ABOUT THIS POINT. HOW TO MAKE THE SCHOOL BETTER IS NOT CLOSING THEM. THAT IS TOO EASY TO SAY THAT, BUT HURTING THE HUNDREDS OF FAMILY, INCLUDING MY SON FEEL SO SAD. HE COME AND SAY, MOMMY, WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SCHOOL? WHAT HAPPENED TO PINKERTON? I CANNOT TELL HIM HOW [INAUDIBLE]. I COULDN'T ANSWER HIM. I CANNOT TELL HIM. OH, BECAUSE YOU GUYS MISTAKE AND MADE THE SCHOOL CLOSE, RIGHT? SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT. MAKE THE SCHOOL BETTER NOT JUST CLOSING. THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] 756 LEXINGTON AVENUE. PINKERTON MAY BE A SMALL SCHOOL, BUT THE IMPACT OF ITS CLOSURE RESONATES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. THIS IS NOT A SOLUTION CENTRIC APPROACH. SHUTTING DOWN A CHOICE SCHOOL TO SAVE JUST 1% OF 200 MILLION BUDGET MAKES US QUESTION WHAT'S IN STORE NEXT TIME WE FACE HARDSHIP? DO WE HAVE TO LIVE UNDER CONSTANT FEAR OF SCHOOL CLOSURES? PINKERTON PARENTS HAVE BEEN WALKING THROUGH THOSE DOORS FOR YEARS, ASKING FOR SOLUTIONS, AND HAVE LEFT FEELING UNCERTAIN ABOUT THEIR SCHOOL AND THE FUTURE OF THE IB PROGRAM. PLEASE DO NOT CLOSE PINKERTON AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS NARROWED DOWN BY ADMIN. THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE WORK LIKE SHE SAID, LIKE JEN SAID. RUBRIC. PAGE FOUR. GO BACK. LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALSO CALL PABLO LOPEZ, VICKY LANG AND MOHAMMAD ZAHID. HI THERE. ANKIT SHAH, 756 LEXINGTON AVENUE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A BIG SPEECH OR ANYTHING WRITTEN MUCH. HERE'S WHAT I CAN GATHER.
MISS WALKER POINTED OUT EVERYBODY MOVES TO COPPELL FOR ONE OR THE OTHER PROGRAM. THAT'S WHAT WE DID. WE BOUGHT A HOUSE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED TO PINKERTON. WE TALKED TO OUR AGENT AND THEY TOLD US THIS HOUSES WILL BE HIGHER IN VALUE BY 3 OR $4 PER SQUARE FOOT, BUT WE WERE WILLING TO PAY THAT BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED TO PINKERTON, AND AS A BOARD MEMBER, HILL SAID, YOU GUYS HAVE MADE MISTAKES OR NOT LIVE UP TO YOUR SET GOAL IN THE PAST. DON'T LET THAT BE THE CASE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE BIG DECISIONS THAT IMPACT DLI AND IB. YEAH. THAT'S IT. SEAN HESTER 437 TRAVIS STREET. I'LL ECHO EVERYTHING THAT ANKIT SAID, BECAUSE IT APPLIES TO ME TO EXACTLY EVERYTHING HE SAID APPLIES TO ME, BUT BEYOND THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. WHAT A MESS YOU'VE ALL CREATED. I MEAN, THE HUBRIS TO THINK THAT YOU COULD DO THIS IN 30 DAYS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND I KNOW YOU HAD LOTS OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE SUMMER, BUT 30 DAYS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WAS ALL GOING TO SOLVE THIS? THAT'S JUST WRONG. YOU KNOW, YOU BACKED YOURSELF INTO THIS CORNER IN THIS ALL OR NOTHING CORNER THAT'S YOUR DOING. THAT'S NOT OUR DOING. SO I GUESS AT THIS POINT, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT MY FAMILY HAS LOST FAITH IN THIS DISTRICT, AND WE WILL NOT BE RETURNING NEXT YEAR. PABLO LOPEZ, 724 [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE. THANK YOU. THE DLI PROGRAM AT WILSON IS A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE STUDENTS ARE ENRICHED AND GROW BY LIVING AND LEARNING WITH PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT CULTURES AND BELIEFS. MY BROTHER IS NOT ONLY LEARNING SPANISH, BUT ALSO IS LEARNING OTHER CULTURES AND TRADITIONS. WE ASK FOR TRANSPARENCY REGARDING ALL THE INFORMATION YOU SHARE AND HOW YOU SUPPORT ALL OF THE OPTIONS. WITH RESPECT FOR THE DLI AND IB PROGRAM. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED, TO TAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STUDENTS. THANK YOU. KEVIN. YOU'LL BE THE LAST ONE. HELLO. MOHAMMAD ZAHID, 1107 COWBOYS PARKWAY, IRVING. I BROUGHT THIS UP ON SEVERAL MEETINGS. I'VE WRITTEN EMAILS AND I'VE BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO PLAN ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE KIDS IN THE SPECIAL NEEDS PROGRAM. I HAVE A FIVE YEAR OLD WITH AUTISM. THERE WAS ANOTHER PARENT HERE WHO ALSO ECHOED THE SAME THING. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT. THE SLIDES THAT WERE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO LOOK OUT FOR ITS LEARNERS, OR THAT'S I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GIVING ANY PLAN OR ANY HEAT TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THESE SPECIAL CHILDREN. THEY ARE SPECIAL AND THEY NEED SPECIAL ATTENTION. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IB PROGRAM DLI WRACKING YOUR BRAINS ALL OVER THE PLACE, YET NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT THESE SPECIAL KIDS AT ALL. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ALL OF THESE MEETINGS. SITTING HERE FOR THREE HOURS LISTENING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HI, I'M VICKI LANG 422 CLEAR CREEK. I'M SURE YOU GOT A LOT OF EMAIL FROM US OVER THE WEEKEND. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME RESEARCHING IT, SO WE DON'T THINK CLOSING PINKERTON IS THE RIGHT DECISION, AND YOU HAVE TIME TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER CHOICE. FROM THE RUBRIC, WE SEE THE ENROLLMENT PROBLEM IS HAPPENING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, NOT THE SOUTH SIDE, AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE STUDENTS COMING IN FROM THE CYPRESS WATERS, WHICH YOU CURRENTLY BUSSED TO THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE SCHOOL. SO WHY CLOSE? PINKERTON AND PINKERTON AND WILSON ARE BOTH SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS REQUIRES SPECIALIZED TEACHER AND FACILITY TO DO SO.
WHY ARE YOU CHANGING THAT AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH SCHOOL THAT YOU MOVE PINKERTON TO RIGHT NOW, COTTONWOOD OR LAKESIDE OR TOWN CENTER, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH ONE. HAVE YOU ASKED THESE SCHOOL? ONE TO JOIN THE IB BASED SCHOOL TEACHING. WHAT IF THEY SAY NO? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO? SO I WILL SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS JUST NOT TOUCH PINKERTON AT ALL. IF YOU DO THAT, IT'S GOING TO CUT AND IT'S GOING TO CUT THE NORTHERN SIDE. THANK YOU. KEVIN [INAUDIBLE], 830 GREENWAY DRIVE. I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE MARK A BIT. WE HAVE A MAJOR DEFICIT COMING AND A MAJOR ENROLLMENT ISSUE THAT'S GETTING WORSE. THE CONSOLIDATION DOESN'T SOLVE EITHER ONE OF THOSE ISSUES, BUT YOU FOCUS MOST OF YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ON THOSE. SO HERE ARE SOME PROBABLY UNPOPULAR OPINIONS. THE RUBRIC WAS REALLY WELL DEVELOPED IN MY OPINION, AND WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE IT TO REVISIT SOME OPTIONS THAT WERE ALREADY PRESENTED. THE LOWEST RANKED SCHOOLS IN ORDER WERE NEW TECH, COTTONWOOD CREEK, PINKERTON, AUSTIN. THE ADMIN GAVE US OPTIONS WITH MOST OF THESE SCHOOLS, PINKERTON OR AUSTIN OR BOTH, AND NEW TECH. I WOULD ASSUME THE ADMIN PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THESE, AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PRESENTED THEM IF THEY DIDN'T WORK. THEY PROBABLY WORK EVEN BETTER NOW WITH THE NEW PROJECTIONS. PLEASE CONSIDER BRINGING THEM BACK. ARE WE REALLY DOING ALL THIS TO WILSON FOR IB TO BE CLOSER TO PINKERTON, I INFORMALLY SURVEYED THE LAKESIDE PARENTS AND MORE THAN HALF OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE OPEN TO MOVING IB TO LAKESIDE. THE OTHERS WERE SAID THEY'D NEED TO LEARN MORE. I, FOR ONE, WOULD WELCOME THE COWPOKES OVER AND WE ALREADY WEAR RED, SO THAT HELPS. ALSO, DON'T FORGET LAKESIDE WAS ENGAGED ON DAY ONE. WE WANT OUR SCHOOL TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE. PLEASE CUT DEEPER SO WE CAN HEAL SOONER. THANK YOU, AND JUST ONE FINAL CALL FOR PRASAD [INAUDIBLE]. JUST MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T MISS ANYBODY. IF NOT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR OPEN FORUM TONIGHT, AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE EVERYTHING ON OUR AGENDA. I'LL ENTERTAIN ONE LAST MOTION. I MOVE WE ADJOURN. SECOND. MOTION TO ADJOURN BY TRUSTEE SETHI, SECONDED BY TRUSTEE ANTHONY HILL. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:27.