1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,480 Yes, sir. 2 00:00:00,691 --> 00:00:01,260 Mm-hmm. 3 00:00:01,891 --> 00:00:02,310 All right. 4 00:00:03,570 --> 00:00:08,400 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the 5 00:00:08,430 --> 00:00:13,996 Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:00:14,191 --> 00:00:15,030 justice for all. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,420 Hi Alex, I'm Rich Aimpola. This is the Board of Fire Commissioners. 8 00:00:27,661 --> 00:00:33,510 We interface between the village board and the firehouse, the chief, the captain, 9 00:00:33,630 --> 00:00:34,411 and the other officers. 10 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:42,000 That is our job here. We accept you in, we 11 00:00:42,690 --> 00:00:46,530 take you off the rolls when you leave if you do stuff like that. 12 00:00:47,010 --> 00:00:49,170 Commissioner Hahn can speak a little on his own. 13 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:52,620 Welcome. Thank you for joining the fire company. 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,301 It's a solemn responsibility to be able to help others, especially our community 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,620 during times of need. We're very fortunate we don't get many fires in our community 16 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:06,360 but our community has a great need for what we're able to provide, and that's help 17 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:11,610 during times of crisis whether it may be a flood or smoke investigation, carbon 18 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:15,060 monoxide lift assists during medical calls. 19 00:01:15,105 --> 00:01:18,660 So it's a really important role that you're able to help fulfill, and it's great to 20 00:01:18,780 --> 00:01:22,500 have some youth involved because it helps ease the burden on the older members. 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,430 So thanks for joining. 22 00:01:25,110 --> 00:01:26,190 Commissioner Armatash? 23 00:01:26,610 --> 00:01:30,915 I welcome you to us. First couple things you should remember, 24 00:01:32,130 --> 00:01:37,830 family comes first, school comes, religion, and then the fire 25 00:01:37,859 --> 00:01:38,429 department. 26 00:01:40,980 --> 00:01:46,200 You're joining a great group of men and women that serve the village, and we 27 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:47,190 welcome you here. 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,500 Thank you. Do you have any questions for us? 29 00:01:54,660 --> 00:02:00,240 No. There might be out of ignorance ones but besides, I think I am 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,560 committed. I cannot leave. There are no stupid questions, only ones that you don't 31 00:02:04,590 --> 00:02:07,980 ask. Chief, would you like to... anything to say to Alex? 32 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:13,500 No, we've spoken about the commitment to the department and the time and 33 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:20,220 effort that has to be put in place. So as long as we continue with that, we'll be 34 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,930 all right. Right. 35 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,925 Okay. Copy that. Okay. Cap, anything? 36 00:02:28,351 --> 00:02:28,365 Nope. 37 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:31,470 Thank you. So you're welcome to stick around. 38 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,820 We have business to cover that concerns the fire department but you don't have to 39 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,990 stay by all means. 40 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:41,820 We do have to make a motion. Correct. Wonderful. 41 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,351 I make a motion we accept. 42 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:44,040 Second. 43 00:02:44,610 --> 00:02:48,825 All right, so we're making a motion to accept you as a member of the Village of 44 00:02:48,825 --> 00:02:50,550 Coram and Holtsville Fire Department. 45 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:56,460 Let's go here. We'll go this and this. 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,980 Any discussion? 47 00:03:00,930 --> 00:03:01,921 All right. All in favor? 48 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:02,700 Aye. 49 00:03:02,925 --> 00:03:02,925 Aye. 50 00:03:02,940 --> 00:03:07,980 Any opposed? All right. We've accepted you as a probationary member of the Coram 51 00:03:07,995 --> 00:03:11,940 and Holtsville Fire Department. Thank you. Now you're free to go. 52 00:03:17,701 --> 00:03:18,480 Mm-hmm. 53 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:26,400 All right. I sent the minutes out from the June meeting. 54 00:03:26,490 --> 00:03:28,291 Hopefully you had a chance to review them. 55 00:03:29,101 --> 00:03:30,480 I make a motion we accept. 56 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:31,140 Second. 57 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:32,250 Okay. 58 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,380 Any discussion on the minutes? All in favor? 59 00:03:37,921 --> 00:03:38,355 Aye. 60 00:03:38,355 --> 00:03:38,400 Aye. 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,560 Any opposed? Wonderful. 62 00:03:42,675 --> 00:03:43,020 Take care. 63 00:03:44,701 --> 00:03:47,430 So up first is membership 64 00:03:50,671 --> 00:03:54,330 report. We have a June membership report 65 00:03:56,101 --> 00:03:58,230 that the Captain sent to us. 66 00:03:59,791 --> 00:04:05,625 You guys will have one too. If not again, I made one but I 67 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,860 don't have an August one handy on me. 68 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:14,851 We emailed about two members coming off probation tentatively within the company 69 00:04:15,031 --> 00:04:18,930 next week at the company trustees meeting. 70 00:04:20,490 --> 00:04:23,520 Probationary firefighter Bain signed up for the VFO course 71 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:27,630 while a couple other probies were 72 00:04:30,660 --> 00:04:34,560 moving through their probationary sheet and are working towards getting them signed 73 00:04:34,591 --> 00:04:40,560 up for Firefighter One. And then the active members, a couple of us are 74 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:46,470 signed up for a basic vehicle passenger rescue course held at the Highland Company 75 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:51,570 in September. Other than that there's nothing to add. 76 00:04:53,610 --> 00:04:54,540 Okay. Thank you. 77 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:56,341 What about the members that resigned? 78 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:01,740 They were accepted last night that they resigned. 79 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,730 You should got an email or something from the secretary. 80 00:05:05,790 --> 00:05:09,210 Who is the secretary? Gloria Marino. Ms. Harris. 81 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Anyway, so last night Kyle Patterson and Tyler Delovo sent in their formal 82 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,690 resignations within the company. 83 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:25,320 Now obviously you can't be a member of the department without being a member of the 84 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:27,091 company just so 85 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:34,020 you guys are aware. They were supposed to send a memo. It might be coming later on. 86 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:35,820 There was a quick turnaround from last night to today. 87 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,810 So 88 00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:40,650 I don't really know if you guys need to take a vote on it. 89 00:05:41,175 --> 00:05:46,994 Any outstanding stuff out on him? Tyler has 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,170 some equipment for the company and I think a department pager but we've been in 91 00:05:52,201 --> 00:05:54,510 touch with his family and we're going to get that. 92 00:05:54,630 --> 00:05:55,980 They both moved out of state. 93 00:05:56,295 --> 00:06:01,365 Make a motion we accept and let the chief and the captain follow through with the 94 00:06:02,310 --> 00:06:03,930 return of equipment. 95 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,350 Second, with thanks for your service. 96 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:12,570 So the motion's gonna be to rescind membership for Kyle Patterson and Tyler 97 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,591 DeLillo. Would that be correct? Mm-hmm. Okay amended. 98 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:22,320 I had Charles Noller on the list too. 99 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:28,201 Has he already been addressed by the company? Yeah. 100 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:31,320 He resigned a while back. 101 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,630 I don't know exactly-- I don't think we took action on it, so I gotta amend. 102 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:41,655 Didn't we give him a leave of absence? 103 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,630 No, that was Wade. Charles resigned in June. 104 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:50,055 That's the father though, right? Okay. I make a motion we accept it. 105 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:53,670 We'll just yeah we amend it to add Charles. 106 00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:56,100 Luke Kapsak. 107 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:00,615 Old news right? That's over a year ago. 108 00:07:00,630 --> 00:07:03,300 Well, I couldn't find anything in the minutes so we're going to add him anyway. 109 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:09,600 Over a year? Yeah, haven't seen- okay well I didn't find anything in the 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,550 minutes. I don't think we ever addressed it. 111 00:07:12,451 --> 00:07:17,760 He did give a formal resignation from within the company and - Company acted on it? 112 00:07:17,850 --> 00:07:20,520 Yeah. Mm-hmm. And you're waiting on Danes? 113 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:23,760 Yeah. I got notification out to him. 114 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:28,050 Obviously he's got a duty station in Korea so responding to alarms and drills will 115 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:29,250 be a little bit difficult for him. 116 00:07:30,841 --> 00:07:32,085 We'll have to move forward with that. 117 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:34,740 Will we wait until after the company makes a decision? Yeah. 118 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,350 Well, we'll be back and forth talking to him. 119 00:07:37,905 --> 00:07:41,401 And he's made it known that he does not intend on coming back to live in the area. 120 00:07:42,841 --> 00:07:43,320 Okay. 121 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,380 We brought up Wade. Did he return? Just out of curiosity. He did. 122 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Okay thank you. Alright. The motion rescinding 123 00:07:56,610 --> 00:08:02,490 membership for Charles Noler, Kyle Patterson, Lou Capsack who we missed, and Tyler 124 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,720 DeLillo. And that went to a second. We've had discussion. All in favor? 125 00:08:07,050 --> 00:08:07,649 Aye. 126 00:08:07,665 --> 00:08:07,665 Aye. 127 00:08:07,710 --> 00:08:08,579 Wonderful. Thank you. 128 00:08:10,050 --> 00:08:12,180 Make a note. 129 00:08:22,770 --> 00:08:28,020 Monthly department reports: we have June and 130 00:08:28,110 --> 00:08:28,890 July. 131 00:08:32,130 --> 00:08:33,600 Let me get back to June. 132 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,559 I have copies if you want to refer to them. No, I have them right here. 133 00:08:42,510 --> 00:08:45,630 Just to get back to June, we did apply for the 134 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:50,940 FEMA Assistance to Firefighters Grant for new air packs. 135 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:56,311 We applied for approximately $224,000. 136 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:04,710 This is the third time that we've applied for this grant I believe in the last four 137 00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:05,670 to five years. 138 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:08,850 We've been turned down the other two times. 139 00:09:12,270 --> 00:09:17,760 This will be successful. One of the hiccups with the application is the 140 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:21,720 village's sam.gov account has to be updated. 141 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,540 Before I retired, I spoke with the village clerk and the mayor, they're aware of 142 00:09:27,570 --> 00:09:27,690 it, 143 00:09:29,010 --> 00:09:30,360 and they were going to be working on it. 144 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:36,420 But it has to be updated before we can be awarded any funding. 145 00:09:36,990 --> 00:09:38,820 Now, Chief, how many air packs is this for? 146 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:42,720 I will defer to the captain on that. He did the count. 147 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:49,260 So we started off with 33. That was taking into account the 148 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:55,605 upcoming pumper tanker. We redid the numbers, reran, I think we're down to 28 or 149 00:09:55,740 --> 00:10:00,090 27. That includes three air packs for training. 150 00:10:00,870 --> 00:10:04,110 So all seats will have some. They will be 151 00:10:06,151 --> 00:10:10,695 in regulation with the county's mutual aid plan, and we'll have something for 152 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:13,980 members to take out to training. Right now we have packs that get taken out of 153 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,061 service solely to take classes, and that leaves seat somebody with airbags. 154 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:21,390 It does not include- 155 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,431 What was the number? There's 28. 156 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:28,020 Correct. Yeah. It does not include bottles for the air packs because over the years 157 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:32,640 when Commissioner Armitage was chief and whatnot, we started rotation, so we were 158 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:38,370 able to replace the bottles which are compatible with the new 159 00:10:38,431 --> 00:10:42,300 packs. That alone will save about $60,000. 160 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:48,390 However, we are going to include new face pieces. 161 00:10:49,651 --> 00:10:51,270 We had the AV-2000s. 162 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:57,061 Yeah. So a couple years ago, Scott discontinued our face piece. 163 00:10:58,020 --> 00:11:01,440 They had a sunset period of a couple years. 164 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:03,811 I think next year is the last you can get parts for them. 165 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:10,260 But with reducing the number of air packs, that will allow us to purchase new face 166 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,750 pieces that are in compliance with today's standards. 167 00:11:13,050 --> 00:11:18,870 And what we found during the last fit testing, those older face pieces are so 168 00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:23,340 old that the rubbers dry rot a little bit and are no longer able to keep a good 169 00:11:23,401 --> 00:11:23,760 seal. 170 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:28,350 Whether or not we get the new air packs, we got to start replacing the face pieces. 171 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:29,431 Okay. 172 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,901 That's about it for 173 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:36,600 the June report. 174 00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:42,000 Do we need to accept them one at a time or... We don't have to. 175 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,431 We'll accept both of them when you're done with July. 176 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:44,790 Yep. 177 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:52,410 July, just a couple ones there that we had a structure fire at 14 Cornwall Ave. 178 00:11:54,690 --> 00:12:00,285 We were very fortunate that call came in at two o'clock on a Sunday in July 179 00:12:00,570 --> 00:12:06,480 when most of our younger members are home from college, and some of our senior 180 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:08,970 members are at home and not working. 181 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:13,530 We were able to respond pretty quickly and get the fire knocked down. 182 00:12:13,740 --> 00:12:17,940 Actually, we had the fire knocked down before the mutual aid that we had requested 183 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:20,010 arrived on scene. 184 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:25,920 A question came up about our use of mutual aid for that call. 185 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:33,240 Just so the board's aware, the whole village is preplanned 186 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,460 for building fires. The captain, the assistant chief, worked several 187 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:41,401 days updating that plan. 188 00:12:42,884 --> 00:12:48,720 And that plan for residential buildings is based upon whether the house 189 00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:52,380 is 800 square feet or 8,000 square feet. 190 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:56,100 You're getting the same resources when you have an active fire. 191 00:12:57,931 --> 00:13:02,460 So that's why when you see the robust response, 192 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,360 it's not necessarily indicative of the size of the building or the extent, it's 193 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:11,820 just that's our standard for a second alarm fire. 194 00:13:13,575 --> 00:13:19,350 And I will note that response was also just, I believe it was one 195 00:13:19,411 --> 00:13:23,475 unit more than what the city of Newburgh gets for their fires, and that's because 196 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,020 we have a dedicated fast team. 197 00:13:25,621 --> 00:13:28,380 Chief, were there any departments in your mutual aid plan that weren't able to 198 00:13:28,411 --> 00:13:28,890 respond? 199 00:13:29,475 --> 00:13:30,690 There was. 200 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:33,301 but yeah. 201 00:13:33,390 --> 00:13:36,840 That plan compensates enough with that consideration. 202 00:13:36,855 --> 00:13:36,960 Correct. 203 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:40,575 I will say that the company or the department that wasn't able to respond is 204 00:13:40,590 --> 00:13:42,780 because the request apparatus was out of service. 205 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,801 Okay. Great. Thank you. 206 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:52,350 All right. Also in July, we went to a carbon monoxide emergency over at 207 00:13:52,411 --> 00:13:53,220 the 208 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:55,860 Curie Road Apartments. 209 00:13:57,121 --> 00:14:02,790 You'll notice that the levels were upwards of 700 parts per million, which is a 210 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:03,810 pretty lethal dose. 211 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,200 When that occurs, that's another example of 212 00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:16,170 the importance of having up-to-date equipment with the SCBAs, because not only do 213 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:21,540 we use them for house fires, building fires, car fires, but when we run into 214 00:14:21,661 --> 00:14:26,850 hazardous conditions such as that, they get used as well. 215 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Let's see. 216 00:14:30,765 --> 00:14:33,210 And I started making note of our response times. 217 00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:37,890 Our average response time in July was eight minutes 32 seconds. 218 00:14:37,950 --> 00:14:42,810 That's from the time that 911 gets the call; like that's right when they pick up 219 00:14:42,871 --> 00:14:44,610 the phone. It's before they dispatch us. 220 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,036 To arrive on scene within eight minutes, and that's including two mutual aid fires 221 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:52,890 to the Cornwall Fire Department in Salisbury Mills, which was a considerably 222 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,630 lengthier response time 223 00:14:55,830 --> 00:14:56,670 because of the distance. 224 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:59,730 Both responses are included in that 8:32. 225 00:15:04,051 --> 00:15:04,801 And that is it. 226 00:15:07,051 --> 00:15:10,755 Any questions for the chief? I just have two comments about the report. 227 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:12,496 First, the fire. 228 00:15:14,340 --> 00:15:18,360 You probably didn't know, but I went down and I did watch the operation. 229 00:15:18,450 --> 00:15:23,040 I stayed away from the professionals that were doing it, 230 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:26,130 and I commend. 231 00:15:29,401 --> 00:15:35,010 I also heard a lot of complaints about the mutual aid that was coming, and 232 00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:40,801 basically my answer to him is that you don't know how it feels when you're there 233 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:45,960 and you have a fire, what's going to happen, what's going to happen next. 234 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:50,685 So always would say it's better to have more and you can send them back. Mm-hmm. 235 00:15:51,181 --> 00:15:56,460 So I had no heartburn with that. With the Curie Road apartments, I don't know if 236 00:15:56,490 --> 00:16:01,875 you're aware that they have a new manager that took over- Yeah ..as of September 1. 237 00:16:02,551 --> 00:16:06,885 I had to deal with him on some issues because my house had a couple trees go down, 238 00:16:06,931 --> 00:16:12,840 and they were very cooperative. So I think if you have any issues he's 239 00:16:12,871 --> 00:16:15,090 going to be pretty well on top of it. 240 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:21,181 We did have an issue for that carbon monoxide alarm where a couple of the 241 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,585 residents made comments that, "See, this is why you shouldn't called 911." 242 00:16:26,911 --> 00:16:31,485 Just a couple uncooperative residents of the building because they were 243 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:34,710 inconvenienced of having to be evacuated and whatnot. 244 00:16:35,310 --> 00:16:39,255 And also some housekeeping items that we've spoken with the building department 245 00:16:39,301 --> 00:16:39,690 about. 246 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:44,070 In terms of that call on 247 00:16:45,390 --> 00:16:48,901 Cornwall Avenue, I had spoken to Commissioner Hanon about the mutual aid as well. 248 00:16:49,411 --> 00:16:54,600 And then thing that I will point out is if anybody has any questions about our use 249 00:16:54,661 --> 00:17:00,570 of mutual aid or our response to any alarms, everybody has my 250 00:17:00,630 --> 00:17:03,330 cell phone number. Pick up the phone and call me. 251 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,780 It's a little bit disheartening to hear it coming secondhand from the commissioners 252 00:17:10,350 --> 00:17:12,301 rather than having somebody coming to me directly. 253 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,540 Understood. 254 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:20,371 I feel the same way. I make a motion we accept the reports. 255 00:17:20,611 --> 00:17:21,030 Second. 256 00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:26,130 Sounds good. Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor? 257 00:17:26,401 --> 00:17:26,924 Aye. Aye. 258 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:30,585 Thank you. Budget reports. I sent- 259 00:17:30,930 --> 00:17:31,380 On to August. 260 00:17:32,490 --> 00:17:34,380 Oh, okay. We don't have it. 261 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:39,420 I sent it to you. I sent it yesterday. Yesterday. 262 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:40,650 Jess please do August. 263 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:43,890 Alright, so August we had 264 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,540 20 events, 122.73 volunteer hours. 265 00:17:49,290 --> 00:17:52,950 Six of them were automatic alarms, three of which came in from the Old Hudson 266 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:55,200 Valley Food Bank. We had a little bit of a problem there 267 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,830 with their alarm system unable to reset it. 268 00:17:58,890 --> 00:18:00,510 The other issue that we had was 269 00:18:01,861 --> 00:18:07,830 the alarm company had no key holders on their list to come out at two o'clock in 270 00:18:07,861 --> 00:18:13,575 the morning each day to reset it. So we were able to silence it, and 271 00:18:13,621 --> 00:18:19,470 then each day, 24 hours would go by and it would go off again. 272 00:18:19,530 --> 00:18:22,861 So we spoke to the alarm company on Monday. I spoke to them. 273 00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:23,955 They've corrected that 274 00:18:25,422 --> 00:18:30,372 They now have a key holder list. And what it was, it was a water flow alarm. 275 00:18:30,402 --> 00:18:32,053 The compressor had burnt up for it. 276 00:18:33,432 --> 00:18:36,492 But again, we could only silence it. We weren't able to reset it. 277 00:18:38,952 --> 00:18:41,263 413 is out of service. 278 00:18:43,212 --> 00:18:46,377 Thanks to Commissioner Hahn, we were able to locate a service company up in Lake 279 00:18:46,422 --> 00:18:48,132 Katrine, Premier Fire Apparatus. 280 00:18:48,162 --> 00:18:54,042 They're an E-One dealer, but they service all types of apparatus manufacturers. 281 00:18:55,722 --> 00:18:57,882 I was up there yesterday dropping a part off to them. 282 00:18:59,412 --> 00:19:03,282 I expect that somebody will be getting a phone call possibly tomorrow about it 283 00:19:03,342 --> 00:19:06,942 being completed so we can get it back here either over the weekend or early part of 284 00:19:07,017 --> 00:19:11,982 next week. By all reports, the maintenance is going well. 285 00:19:14,352 --> 00:19:19,002 They did tell me yesterday when they see an American LaFrance coming in, they 286 00:19:19,062 --> 00:19:23,022 cringe when they see it because they just don't know if they'll be able to get 287 00:19:23,082 --> 00:19:27,492 parts for it. But our American LaFrance is in good shape. 288 00:19:29,352 --> 00:19:31,752 They're making some necessary repairs to it. 289 00:19:32,502 --> 00:19:36,192 The one hydraulic repair, they're going to get us an estimate on that and they're 290 00:19:36,222 --> 00:19:40,332 going to get us an estimate on rebuilding the elevation cylinders. 291 00:19:40,962 --> 00:19:46,212 And also, they gave us a ballpark price; if we wanted to do a full 292 00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:48,492 refurbishment on it, it would be $1 million. 293 00:19:49,602 --> 00:19:52,752 But according to them, that's only buying you seven to 10 years. 294 00:19:52,782 --> 00:19:57,987 And again, it's an American LaFrance, so if you have any 295 00:19:58,422 --> 00:20:03,057 catastrophic failures with the cab or chassis, you're not going to be able to get 296 00:20:03,072 --> 00:20:06,702 the parts. So, but the ladder and everything's in good shape. 297 00:20:08,082 --> 00:20:08,892 So that was that. 298 00:20:12,852 --> 00:20:16,692 Pumper tanker, that's been pushed back to delivery in January. 299 00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:20,922 They had a tornado out by Pierce Fire Appliance plant. 300 00:20:20,967 --> 00:20:24,822 That's delayed some of the apparatus that was in front of it. 301 00:20:25,152 --> 00:20:27,763 So it's been pushed back a few weeks into January. 302 00:20:29,682 --> 00:20:31,452 So that's where we stand with that. 303 00:20:32,862 --> 00:20:36,492 That's all on that. Chief, I do have a question . Excuse me. 304 00:20:37,482 --> 00:20:41,502 With the food bank, it's under new ownership right? Yep. 305 00:20:42,312 --> 00:20:47,022 Who maintains the contact list and ensures that the Knox Box works? Yeah. 306 00:20:48,222 --> 00:20:49,722 It's strange. It's one building right? 307 00:20:50,803 --> 00:20:53,022 But their former code enforcement officer, 308 00:20:54,822 --> 00:20:59,532 Mr. Carmony required that each business have a separate alarm system. 309 00:21:00,582 --> 00:21:04,632 So even if you're in the new section-- Well, not new section. 310 00:21:04,662 --> 00:21:08,952 Where Sallyander is and that alarm's going off, if you're in the front half, you 311 00:21:09,013 --> 00:21:13,602 have no idea that alarm's going off because they have it sectioned off. 312 00:21:13,722 --> 00:21:19,602 I don't know why. They tell me there's only one stairwell that 313 00:21:19,662 --> 00:21:21,102 leads from one section to the other. 314 00:21:21,672 --> 00:21:25,032 In my mind, you would want the alarm to go off for both. 315 00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:27,972 So there's two separate 316 00:21:30,192 --> 00:21:33,672 keyholder lists, and I believe it's two separate alarm companies. 317 00:21:36,192 --> 00:21:37,692 So that's where we stand with that. 318 00:21:38,772 --> 00:21:43,092 Have you been in contact with the new building inspector to find maybe a better 319 00:21:43,152 --> 00:21:46,992 path forward? Not on that one particularly, no. Thank you. 320 00:21:49,602 --> 00:21:53,592 Where is 413? What's the name of the company? Premier Fire Apparatus. Okay. 321 00:21:58,752 --> 00:22:00,612 All right. We're amending the 322 00:22:01,902 --> 00:22:04,632 motion to include August. I missed it, I apologize. 323 00:22:05,562 --> 00:22:06,132 No worries. 324 00:22:08,172 --> 00:22:09,402 You're still riding your bike. 325 00:22:10,332 --> 00:22:10,932 Budget 326 00:22:12,282 --> 00:22:17,952 June and July was sent. July being 327 00:22:19,812 --> 00:22:20,532 a draft. 328 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:26,622 If you had a chance to look at them, I don't know if there's any questions on them. 329 00:22:29,803 --> 00:22:30,222 Okay. 330 00:22:31,212 --> 00:22:33,102 I will note, I looked at them. Mm-hmm. 331 00:22:36,553 --> 00:22:42,132 When we get to t’other memo, but there seems to be about $150,000 in 332 00:22:42,822 --> 00:22:48,627 funding available for firematic equipment and expenses and about $50,000 333 00:22:49,062 --> 00:22:50,322 for firehouse maintenance. 334 00:22:51,852 --> 00:22:56,592 To commissioner Hahn's point about the maintenance items, there seems to be some 335 00:22:56,652 --> 00:23:00,732 money there that we can maybe jumpstart on some of those items, 336 00:23:02,263 --> 00:23:03,702 get that plan moving ahead. 337 00:23:08,712 --> 00:23:11,082 Is there any intent to buy some air packs 338 00:23:13,182 --> 00:23:14,547 before you hear from the grant? 339 00:23:16,092 --> 00:23:19,842 If we purchase them before the grant then are no longer eligible to be reimbursed 340 00:23:19,902 --> 00:23:20,592 by the grant. 341 00:23:21,822 --> 00:23:23,772 And when...What's the...? 342 00:23:24,372 --> 00:23:30,222 We're hoping to hear by January. The last time that I spoke with Mayor Kane, and 343 00:23:30,252 --> 00:23:34,842 this goes back several months,and it was not 344 00:23:34,902 --> 00:23:39,612 meeting setting or anything, but he did say that they were thinking about trying to 345 00:23:39,642 --> 00:23:44,922 purchase air packs through the bond for the pumper tankers. 346 00:23:45,072 --> 00:23:46,332 I don't know where that stands. 347 00:23:47,172 --> 00:23:48,162 Do we have a backup plan? 348 00:23:48,702 --> 00:23:49,242 Yes.. 349 00:23:49,332 --> 00:23:53,112 Right now you don't have enough correct for the new truck, the new pumper tanker?. 350 00:23:53,472 --> 00:23:53,862 We do. 351 00:23:55,842 --> 00:23:58,062 Because we're going to be taking some off of - 352 00:23:58,182 --> 00:24:00,132 Oh, four. Yeah okay 353 00:24:01,722 --> 00:24:03,687 So we were just talking today, 354 00:24:05,832 --> 00:24:11,112 we're gonna reach out to AAAbecause we'd rather not purchasea few air 355 00:24:11,232 --> 00:24:15,717 packs,,say five or six this year,five or six next year,just because now you got 356 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:19,572 members thathave to betrained qualifiedon twodifferent types. 357 00:24:20,082 --> 00:24:23,562 Sowe were gonnareach out too,and tobe quite honestwith you,I thinkifyou wereto 358 00:24:23,622 --> 00:24:27,402 dothatthe amountofmoneythatyou'respendingeachyearwouldbe 359 00:24:27,492 --> 00:24:31,467 allowed,Youcouldspendthatsameamountofmoneyover afivey earpriodon 360 00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:37,287 amunicipalleaseora smallbanto purchasealltheairpacksupfrontbut 361 00:24:37,392 --> 00:24:46,122 havethesamesamepaymentannuallyratherthanbuyingfiveorsix.Becauseifyoubuyfiveorsixyou'retalking$50,$60,000., 362 00:24:47,982 --> 00:24:53,232 Sothe intentsincethe newpumpertankerisnotgonna costthe amountthatwas bondedcorrect? 363 00:24:53,592 --> 00:24:54,013 Correct. 364 00:24:54,191 --> 00:24:55,392 It'sgonnabe less. 365 00:24:55,992 --> 00:24:56,261 Correct. 366 00:24:56,711 --> 00:25:01,077 Wwhatstheplan?hasthevillagesaidwhatthey'regonnado ? 367 00:25:01,122 --> 00:25:02,742 Nonope. 368 00:25:08,832 --> 00:25:13,692 Anyidea whatkind of youthinkthedifferenceisgoingto be? 369 00:25:14,232 --> 00:25:17,502 WellthImnotquitesurewhatthebondw 370 00:25:17,652 --> 00:25:23,232 asfor.Idoknowthatoriginallythecostofthe 371 00:25:23,263 --> 00:25:24,057 pumptertankewas 372 00:25:24,162 --> 00:25:33,462 1.3itsprobablygonnababout1.2attthispointbecausethetEPAregulationsbeingrolledbackalittlebit 373 00:25:34,782 --> 00:25:47,802 Donotquotemeonitithinktheoriginalbondwassupposedtobeforupto1.5Butagaindonotquotemeonit.AalsoIthinktheressomemoneyinthecapitalfundforyrapparatussthaticanusedtopaydownbaarapparatustofreeupsome 374 00:25:47,832 --> 00:25:48,852 moreoftthatbondm ney 375 00:25:48,867 --> 00:25:55,063 .Whocanwegetaaccurateaccountingoffttfrom? 376 00:25:55,182 --> 00:25:58,002 IIwowouldspeakwtitthetreasurer.Meganyeahokay Yep. 377 00:26:00,313 --> 00:26:03,192 Andthetitsahaveaseparateaccountearmmarkedforcapitalfire? 378 00:26:03,822 --> 00:26:06,132 Thtshatatswwhmyunderstanding. 379 00:26:06,703 --> 00:26:12,492 BecaeIaskedquestiontowhatshername theredandshesaid 380 00:26:12,792 --> 00:26:16,796 shereallydidnhthaveanyidno clueowherwetwascausetyquesti 381 00:26:17,322 --> 00:26:24,942 wwhereidthedinsuranmneygofritsaleffortftheheaccident 382 00:26:26,682 --> 00:26:34,962 IfreadttbudgetrightIthinthimprovementsitthadtodosthemmostoftheimprvementscamoutofttheoperng 383 00:26:35,082 --> 00:26:35,533 budget. 384 00:26:36,192 --> 00:26:36,552 Corrt. 385 00:26:36,822 --> 00:26:41,052 Anthcostothavviclewashhowmuchistepurchasedrom?? 386 00:26:41,112 --> 00:26:41,982 Sixtythousand. 387 00:26:42,132 --> 00:26:44,953 Thousandsoheregotttobesomeoneyssomewhere. 388 00:26:45,087 --> 00:26:48,042 Agreedydnkthihi 389 00:26:48,102 --> 00:26:52,513 datesbacoum undeMayorGalliano. 390 00:26:54,313 --> 00:26:58,212 Whererycreadta dedicatedcapireseve AnIk 391 00:26:58,422 --> 00:27:03,087 thinintiallyfundedthwitupwardsoofaroundtworo 392 00:27:03,313 --> 00:27:07,467 $300,000. Anthenwerengoinsetasideadditi 393 00:27:07,662 --> 00:27:10,138 fundsinan 394 00:27:11,052 --> 00:27:14,727 non-capitline sothatitas 395 00:27:14,893 --> 00:27:22,482 accessibleYnkethbetntthatndinuranceonestherehodbeenike$700,00 396 00:27:22,572 --> 00:27:24,283 totalhatwaearked. 397 00:27:26,742 --> 00:27:30,222 Shouldwesendaformallettertothtboardandtreasuraskingfoan 398 00:27:30,237 --> 00:27:34,033 accountingovitAsTheBoardofFireCommissioners 399 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:35,412 I'lmakenmotionwedo. 400 00:27:41,067 --> 00:27:46,408 And they did this year, I believe it's in the budget this year, put $100,000 into 401 00:27:46,467 --> 00:27:48,897 the capital reserve for fire apparatus. 402 00:27:48,927 --> 00:27:54,237 And I think that was their plan each year but I don't want to speak for them. 403 00:27:54,297 --> 00:27:55,707 It's good financial planning. 404 00:27:56,277 --> 00:27:59,307 Mm-hmm. Yeah and to that point, 405 00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:05,097 shortly after the Wilbur report was issued 406 00:28:06,688 --> 00:28:12,328 we had a financial plan put together that planned out the next 30 to 40 407 00:28:12,447 --> 00:28:15,177 years of purchases for fire apparatus. 408 00:28:16,018 --> 00:28:21,507 It took into account different prepayments, cash and bonding and 409 00:28:21,597 --> 00:28:27,522 bands. And I think the idea of that was to take 410 00:28:27,567 --> 00:28:31,572 into account the pumper tanker, the replacement of the tower ladder, and the 411 00:28:31,647 --> 00:28:34,047 replacement of the squad coming up. 412 00:28:34,138 --> 00:28:40,061 And I think at the 15-year mark of that plan, the bond payment for all of that 413 00:28:40,078 --> 00:28:43,647 would have been $345,000 annually. 414 00:28:43,707 --> 00:28:47,247 That was what the plan was, the financial plan that we had put forward. 415 00:28:48,087 --> 00:28:53,188 Again, that would give you 15 years to plan for that payment while still updating 416 00:28:53,247 --> 00:28:54,297 the equipment. 417 00:28:54,537 --> 00:29:00,057 Chief, you mentioned previously in our conversations offline about some sort of 418 00:29:01,977 --> 00:29:07,917 revolving fund to be able to enjoy maximum interest available 419 00:29:08,007 --> 00:29:10,122 on those types of capital- 420 00:29:10,467 --> 00:29:10,917 Yep 421 00:29:10,932 --> 00:29:13,138 ... funds your reserve funds. Can you speak to that? 422 00:29:13,438 --> 00:29:16,646 I can a little bit. Again, I think your best source for that would be the 423 00:29:16,707 --> 00:29:17,158 treasurer. 424 00:29:19,497 --> 00:29:25,408 So the village is a participant in the NYCLASS as 425 00:29:25,467 --> 00:29:27,747 is many municipalities and school districts. 426 00:29:29,127 --> 00:29:33,763 You can place your liquid funds in that, and this is a very 427 00:29:35,547 --> 00:29:37,857 short explanation of my understanding of it. 428 00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:41,817 We put your funds in there and you gain interest. 429 00:29:41,877 --> 00:29:44,307 At one point it was up to like 4% interest. 430 00:29:45,268 --> 00:29:49,047 But it's also liquid so if you need it tomorrow you can pull it out. 431 00:29:49,677 --> 00:29:54,328 I don't know how much of the funding that they have that's earmarked for the fire 432 00:29:54,357 --> 00:29:55,828 department apparatus that's in there, 433 00:29:57,328 --> 00:30:00,927 but it is certainly something to consider. 434 00:30:01,107 --> 00:30:05,712 I know a lot of school districts, they put all their funds in there right when they 435 00:30:05,727 --> 00:30:08,578 get the money and they just pull it as they need it because they're earning good 436 00:30:08,638 --> 00:30:09,328 interest on it. 437 00:30:10,257 --> 00:30:14,397 Yeah. I think that'd be to our benefit for our long term financial plan ensure that 438 00:30:14,457 --> 00:30:16,018 we're getting that interest. 439 00:30:16,467 --> 00:30:17,397 Correct. 440 00:30:17,457 --> 00:30:17,727 Thank you. 441 00:30:20,938 --> 00:30:21,972 Anyone else on budget? 442 00:30:25,768 --> 00:30:28,707 All right Chief Traynor thank you for your memo. 443 00:30:30,447 --> 00:30:31,377 Would you like to 444 00:30:32,817 --> 00:30:33,357 speak about it? 445 00:30:33,477 --> 00:30:35,638 Yeah. We don't have to go through it verbatim. 446 00:30:36,927 --> 00:30:39,627 Just wanted to update the Village Board and the board of commissioners where we 447 00:30:39,688 --> 00:30:43,768 stand with different items around the firehouse. We touched on a few of it already. 448 00:30:44,908 --> 00:30:47,847 Squad 411 we had some repairs done to that. 449 00:30:49,257 --> 00:30:53,277 That went over to Campbell Supply in Maybrook. It was there for a few days. 450 00:30:55,347 --> 00:30:59,277 There is a part that they had to order. 451 00:30:59,367 --> 00:31:02,847 I assume they've probably gotten it by now but we haven't heard from them and we 452 00:31:02,877 --> 00:31:06,297 would have to follow up with them so it's going to have to go back out for 453 00:31:06,447 --> 00:31:08,067 additional maintenance. 454 00:31:09,927 --> 00:31:15,717 One of the things that kind of dovetails into that is the fire 455 00:31:15,747 --> 00:31:21,462 department utility vehicle typically speaking, when one of the engines are out of 456 00:31:21,537 --> 00:31:25,107 service 415 the tanker becomes the backup. 457 00:31:25,587 --> 00:31:31,167 And right now the tanker we have is only a two man cab so we would use the utility 458 00:31:31,197 --> 00:31:36,987 to supplement that manpower for that but the utility is 459 00:31:37,018 --> 00:31:39,717 currently on loan to the building department. 460 00:31:41,007 --> 00:31:46,737 I think we started that back in April or May. I spoke to the mayor. 461 00:31:47,787 --> 00:31:52,707 The mayor assured maybe a 60 or 90 day loan so I'm not sure where that stands. 462 00:31:53,938 --> 00:31:58,947 One of the things that we also use that for is training; when the members go out to 463 00:31:58,977 --> 00:32:03,747 training or for rehab purposes such as the fire down 464 00:32:03,807 --> 00:32:07,347 on Bayview-- Or I'm sorry Cornwall Avenue. 465 00:32:07,377 --> 00:32:10,078 We used that to bring coolers down and whatnot. 466 00:32:11,727 --> 00:32:16,422 The members if they go out now to training they use their own vehicles and for the 467 00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:19,122 fire we had personal vehicles bring that down. 468 00:32:19,287 --> 00:32:21,703 I think that's probably more of a liability insurance wise. 469 00:32:21,957 --> 00:32:26,922 God forbid you get in an accident, you're in your own vehicle workers comp and all 470 00:32:26,967 --> 00:32:27,658 that good stuff. 471 00:32:28,497 --> 00:32:31,377 Chief, are we able to reimburse the members for their personal use of the vehicles? 472 00:32:31,408 --> 00:32:32,247 We are yes. 473 00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:33,837 Mileage wise? Thank you. 474 00:32:37,287 --> 00:32:40,167 So that's 411. Four one three, 475 00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:46,617 we covered that earlier. Once we get the evaluation back then we're gonna reconvene 476 00:32:46,647 --> 00:32:49,257 with the village board at some point hopefully this fall. 477 00:32:49,347 --> 00:32:55,167 My expectation is this fall to try and get a firm answer as to whether or not 478 00:32:55,857 --> 00:33:01,557 we're keeping what we have buying a refurbished rig, buying used, 479 00:33:01,947 --> 00:33:06,147 buying new, but we need to have a direction of some sort so that we can plan 480 00:33:06,207 --> 00:33:06,837 accordingly. 481 00:33:08,427 --> 00:33:10,408 The new pumper tanker we spoke about that. 482 00:33:12,897 --> 00:33:15,057 It looks like we have about 483 00:33:16,377 --> 00:33:20,877 $43,000 worth of needs equipment that has to go on there. 484 00:33:21,658 --> 00:33:27,207 I believe that was also in the memo I attached. A list of all that equipment. 485 00:33:27,268 --> 00:33:31,257 We've done our due diligence. We went out and gotten price quotes on everything. 486 00:33:31,287 --> 00:33:32,997 The captain's done his homework on that. 487 00:33:34,078 --> 00:33:36,567 So we're looking for some guidance about purchasing of that. 488 00:33:37,377 --> 00:33:40,047 It's our belief that we can purchase that out of the 489 00:33:41,427 --> 00:33:42,688 regular operating budget 490 00:33:44,547 --> 00:33:48,897 but we just need to confirm that you guys are ready to move forward with those 491 00:33:48,957 --> 00:33:49,587 purchases. 492 00:33:52,888 --> 00:33:57,852 Typically there's about $130,000 worth of equipment that is required to be on 493 00:33:57,867 --> 00:34:02,518 there whether that's to meet NFPA standards or just simply the Orange County Mutual 494 00:34:02,578 --> 00:34:08,021 Aid standards for pumper tankers but 90,000 of that we're able to 495 00:34:09,537 --> 00:34:13,287 reuse equipment from existing apparatuses and also some of that is the air packs. 496 00:34:13,317 --> 00:34:14,427 We're waiting to hear back on them. 497 00:34:17,787 --> 00:34:22,347 With the new pumper tanker coming the village is going to have to decide on how to 498 00:34:22,437 --> 00:34:27,957 dispose of engine 412 and tanker 415 Whether or not they wanna hire a broker to 499 00:34:28,018 --> 00:34:32,547 sell it do it through auction. Whether or not they wanna keep them. 500 00:34:33,477 --> 00:34:38,743 I would imagine we wanna keep at least one of them Maybe the engine initially until 501 00:34:38,757 --> 00:34:42,027 we get the new pumper tanker fully in service and we don't have any issues with it 502 00:34:44,397 --> 00:34:47,427 but that is something we're going to have to look at doing and there's gonna be 503 00:34:47,457 --> 00:34:51,027 some revenue from those sales 504 00:34:52,947 --> 00:34:57,177 which is gonna-- particularly the tanker could be significant. 505 00:35:00,357 --> 00:35:03,177 SCBA replacement we covered that a little bit earlier. 506 00:35:04,527 --> 00:35:10,437 Like I said we can't buy any of that yet until FEMA says yes or no on a grant. 507 00:35:11,248 --> 00:35:16,077 I explicitly asked that question if we could purchase that and use the money if we 508 00:35:16,137 --> 00:35:17,577 receive the grant and they said no. 509 00:35:18,387 --> 00:35:20,727 They would have to be purchased after receiving the grant. 510 00:35:21,268 --> 00:35:24,807 Chief uh what's the timeline for expected answer on award? 511 00:35:25,587 --> 00:35:28,857 I'm not quite sure. I know technical review was supposed to start this month. 512 00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:35,307 I would imagine probably November December he'll start rolling them out. 513 00:35:35,427 --> 00:35:37,287 And do you have a lead time on new air packs? 514 00:35:37,437 --> 00:35:40,902 Is there any type of supply complications there related? 515 00:35:40,902 --> 00:35:42,297 I'll defer to the captain on that. 516 00:35:43,557 --> 00:35:45,266 It will probably be about three months. 517 00:35:45,327 --> 00:35:45,897 Three months okay. 518 00:35:46,768 --> 00:35:48,087 Yup 519 00:35:50,998 --> 00:35:51,748 let's see 520 00:35:53,217 --> 00:35:58,377 and those air packs are 22 years old and again we were fortunate 521 00:35:59,187 --> 00:36:03,207 enough to purchase them with a FEMA grant way back in '04-'05. 522 00:36:06,268 --> 00:36:11,457 We are looking at fire ground radios. We're trying to standardize our radios. 523 00:36:11,518 --> 00:36:14,457 A lot of what we're using is over 25 years old 524 00:36:17,007 --> 00:36:22,857 If we purchase air packs either through a bond or a municipal lease or 525 00:36:22,977 --> 00:36:27,867 somehow ever we may do that then I think we can probably start replacing the radios 526 00:36:27,957 --> 00:36:28,452 with 527 00:36:30,297 --> 00:36:31,422 operating budget monies 528 00:36:32,757 --> 00:36:37,437 but I just don't want to do that if we're going to end up purchasing air packs 529 00:36:37,527 --> 00:36:40,498 using the budget moneys 530 00:36:42,585 --> 00:36:43,335 LOSAP. 531 00:36:46,515 --> 00:36:48,239 The gentleman from there, Mr. Perrett, 532 00:36:50,235 --> 00:36:55,905 he's called me a couple of times. He's looking for himself to come up and meet with 533 00:36:55,935 --> 00:37:00,885 the village leadership to go over the program. He's asked for a couple meetings. 534 00:37:02,355 --> 00:37:04,575 He's having difficulty scheduling those meetings. 535 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:10,485 He thinks that using that opportunity, he can 536 00:37:11,835 --> 00:37:17,745 probably save the village some money by allowing him some latitude in terms 537 00:37:17,805 --> 00:37:19,485 of investing that money into LOSAP. 538 00:37:20,835 --> 00:37:24,674 And also, there's been some changeover in staff here, and he thinks it might be 539 00:37:24,705 --> 00:37:29,596 beneficial to have a one-on-one discussion with them so they 540 00:37:29,685 --> 00:37:32,505 understand what to expect from Hometown. 541 00:37:33,015 --> 00:37:36,479 Sure. Chief, would it be beneficial to bring him to the commissioners meeting and 542 00:37:36,495 --> 00:37:40,741 invite maybe a few of the Village Board members here if they're not able to 543 00:37:40,785 --> 00:37:42,435 accommodate at the Village board? 544 00:37:42,601 --> 00:37:46,395 Sure. I can certainly reach out to him and ask him to come on up. 545 00:37:46,455 --> 00:37:47,355 I'm certain he will. 546 00:37:48,765 --> 00:37:52,275 He tries to schedule his meetings around his other clients when he's up this way. 547 00:37:53,205 --> 00:37:56,355 The only thing I would caution is when you invite the Village Board, if you have 548 00:37:56,385 --> 00:37:58,544 three of them here, it's a special meeting for them as well. 549 00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,400 Of course. 550 00:37:59,445 --> 00:38:01,125 Could he attend a work session? 551 00:38:01,726 --> 00:38:03,915 He could. I'm sure he would. 552 00:38:04,905 --> 00:38:08,476 To my brain, that almost seems more beneficial to them because they're there 553 00:38:08,535 --> 00:38:08,835 anyway. 554 00:38:08,895 --> 00:38:10,935 Exactly. Nope, that's an option. 555 00:38:14,175 --> 00:38:17,025 Fire department facility maintenance. 556 00:38:17,715 --> 00:38:23,491 As Commissioner Lahann alluded to offline there, we did have a meeting with 557 00:38:23,505 --> 00:38:24,616 Superintendent Craft. 558 00:38:25,905 --> 00:38:31,785 We did start putting down some ideas of what needs 559 00:38:31,875 --> 00:38:37,665 to, going forward. Obviously, in the forefront of everybody's mind right now is 560 00:38:37,726 --> 00:38:41,866 the catastrophic failure or fire that Coldenham had at their firehouse. 561 00:38:43,125 --> 00:38:46,305 That's why sprinklers are one of the items on the list. 562 00:38:47,685 --> 00:38:52,035 I think sprinklers are very advantageous, but I think we have a lot of items that 563 00:38:52,096 --> 00:38:57,930 have to be on that list. As Commissioner Lahann and I have spoken quite a bit, 564 00:38:58,575 --> 00:39:03,705 over the course of about 10 to 15 years, we lost several of our members to cancer, 565 00:39:05,805 --> 00:39:10,726 which nobody wants to see that, but a lot of those cancers are now 566 00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:14,476 being tied back to firefighting activities. 567 00:39:16,935 --> 00:39:21,346 So I think there's things that we have to keep in mind for personnel safety as well 568 00:39:21,375 --> 00:39:23,745 as apparatus safety, station safety. 569 00:39:24,525 --> 00:39:30,465 We spoke about creating a comprehensive plan, possibly bringing the company in 570 00:39:30,585 --> 00:39:32,265 to develop that plan with us, 571 00:39:34,065 --> 00:39:38,505 and just start pecking away at these things, a couple items a year. 572 00:39:39,616 --> 00:39:42,601 But as he alluded to, there's some low-hanging fruit that can be taken care of 573 00:39:42,616 --> 00:39:43,815 relatively quick. 574 00:39:49,366 --> 00:39:54,599 Training stipend. Last year, the village approved the training stipend 575 00:39:55,605 --> 00:40:01,500 for the local courses that 576 00:40:01,515 --> 00:40:03,675 we take that the state doesn't pay for. 577 00:40:03,855 --> 00:40:08,445 I believe they authorized $10,000 in December for that. 578 00:40:09,015 --> 00:40:10,620 However, the code states that 579 00:40:11,985 --> 00:40:16,529 the budget for training stipends will be set annually through resolution of the 580 00:40:16,575 --> 00:40:17,235 Village Board. 581 00:40:18,765 --> 00:40:21,675 When we spoke, I don't know, Rick, were you with us when we had 582 00:40:24,075 --> 00:40:25,575 a meeting with the mayor about the budget? 583 00:40:26,325 --> 00:40:29,175 And we proposed $10,000 for the 584 00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:34,859 training stipend this year, and I just noticed it myself 585 00:40:36,165 --> 00:40:39,015 a month or two ago, that line item is not in the budget. 586 00:40:39,585 --> 00:40:42,885 So I don't know if they expect us to pay for it out of our operating budget, which 587 00:40:42,915 --> 00:40:47,415 we could, or do we need them to have a resolution? 588 00:40:49,695 --> 00:40:53,205 How do we move forward with that? Just need some guidance because we do have a 589 00:40:53,235 --> 00:40:57,075 couple of courses. The class is coming up in September for accident vehicle 590 00:40:57,105 --> 00:40:59,596 extrication. That would be eligible for a local stipend. 591 00:41:00,465 --> 00:41:03,616 So just need to get some clarification as to where that stands. 592 00:41:09,885 --> 00:41:13,035 And then utility vehicle, we touched on that earlier. 593 00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:20,235 One of the suggestions that Commissioner Hein had was maybe purchase a new 594 00:41:20,355 --> 00:41:26,295 utility for the fire department. The 2022 chief's vehicle was paid 595 00:41:26,445 --> 00:41:32,355 off, as far as I understand. And I believe the '23 will be paid off here, if 596 00:41:32,415 --> 00:41:37,335 not this year, then next. So it might be an idea to possibly buy 597 00:41:37,455 --> 00:41:43,035 another utility. If we do a utility, it would be a pickup truck or something, 598 00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:48,015 but that's open to whatever everybody's ideas were. 599 00:41:48,029 --> 00:41:53,189 And we could probably absorb that through the budget with our annual payment, just 600 00:41:53,235 --> 00:41:54,765 like the chiefs' cars. 601 00:41:57,435 --> 00:41:58,995 And that is it on the memo. 602 00:42:02,685 --> 00:42:04,635 Thank you for that and all the time that you put into it. 603 00:42:05,175 --> 00:42:05,476 Yes. 604 00:42:06,705 --> 00:42:11,535 And just to be clear, we're discussing, I need some guidance from somebody. 605 00:42:12,495 --> 00:42:16,005 I've not heard back from anybody. I'm just looking to move things forward. 606 00:42:19,875 --> 00:42:22,875 I'd like to make a motion that we send 607 00:42:24,825 --> 00:42:30,675 communication to the Village Board recommending that the fire department 608 00:42:31,096 --> 00:42:36,885 be able to purchase that $43,000 of equipment for the new 609 00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:39,705 tanker out of its operating budget. 610 00:42:41,745 --> 00:42:46,096 Also, in that memo, I would like to make a motion that 611 00:42:48,616 --> 00:42:53,715 we pursue a purchase of a utility vehicle, 612 00:42:55,575 --> 00:42:58,785 at the discretion of the officers of what type that would be, 613 00:43:00,045 --> 00:43:03,405 and that payment would come out of the operating budget. 614 00:43:06,075 --> 00:43:10,605 Since they really haven't done anything with the vehicle that has been given to the 615 00:43:10,634 --> 00:43:16,605 building department, which they said 60 to 90 days, I think that needs to be 616 00:43:16,695 --> 00:43:21,045 acted on because of liabilities and safety concerns regarding members driving 617 00:43:21,105 --> 00:43:22,875 personal vehicles to 618 00:43:24,825 --> 00:43:30,105 training and whatever they need to do. So I think we should do that. 619 00:43:30,585 --> 00:43:36,555 Make that motion. And also, in that, I like to make it that they schedule 620 00:43:36,645 --> 00:43:36,660 an 621 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:43,846 appointment with this service award consultant at a workshop to go 622 00:43:43,965 --> 00:43:49,739 over his options regarding our plan that we have for the village and 623 00:43:49,846 --> 00:43:51,705 any ideas for the future. 624 00:43:52,185 --> 00:43:56,504 Yeah, and just to be clear on the LOSAP plan, right now it's underfunded. 625 00:43:56,535 --> 00:43:57,555 Yeah, I saw that. 626 00:43:57,645 --> 00:43:58,635 It's not by a lot. 627 00:43:58,860 --> 00:43:59,971 A thousand bucks or something. 628 00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,245 Yeah, it's a couple of thousand dollars. 629 00:44:01,726 --> 00:44:01,846 Yeah. 630 00:44:02,085 --> 00:44:04,005 But he believes that he can 631 00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:09,315 make a lot of that up by reinvesting it through a different fund. 632 00:44:09,555 --> 00:44:15,525 So the question, the money that's in there for investment in the 633 00:44:15,675 --> 00:44:17,625 amount, do you have any idea what it is? 634 00:44:18,616 --> 00:44:20,385 It's getting like 4%. 635 00:44:20,535 --> 00:44:23,880 No. What-- Is there 300,000? 636 00:44:24,015 --> 00:44:25,035 Oh, I don't know. 637 00:44:25,455 --> 00:44:26,460 See, I think that's something... 638 00:44:26,535 --> 00:44:31,215 I don't know. I think it's what the village has contributed the last few years. 639 00:44:31,860 --> 00:44:34,605 So understand that the original program is separate. 640 00:44:34,995 --> 00:44:40,425 I think in that program there, there's maybe $250,000. 641 00:44:40,515 --> 00:44:42,226 But still, there's money in it. 642 00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:42,616 Yep. 643 00:44:42,705 --> 00:44:42,945 Okay. 644 00:44:43,935 --> 00:44:45,690 And that's the one that's being closed out, 645 00:44:46,965 --> 00:44:50,415 as some of our more senior guys age out. 646 00:44:51,075 --> 00:44:55,395 The new plan, I think, has probably got three years worth of payments in it. 647 00:44:55,995 --> 00:44:56,175 Yeah. 648 00:44:56,625 --> 00:45:00,015 And typically what he does with his fire district customers- 649 00:45:01,846 --> 00:45:03,390 The big fire districts are making- 650 00:45:03,735 --> 00:45:04,096 Yeah 651 00:45:04,305 --> 00:45:05,205 ... They're making money. Yeah. 652 00:45:05,325 --> 00:45:11,235 He generally gets some document signed off on 653 00:45:11,295 --> 00:45:14,655 by the authority having jurisdiction. 654 00:45:15,735 --> 00:45:20,085 For us, that would be the village authorizing him to make money adjustments, 655 00:45:20,205 --> 00:45:22,425 movements to increase the interest. 656 00:45:22,665 --> 00:45:28,575 And also in that memo, a clarification to find out how the training 657 00:45:28,665 --> 00:45:31,965 stipends and where it's going to be paid from. 658 00:45:34,305 --> 00:45:37,485 I think that ties back to the budget question. 659 00:45:39,616 --> 00:45:41,250 Oh, yeah. Okay. 660 00:45:41,445 --> 00:45:42,255 Maybe it could be one memo. 661 00:45:42,405 --> 00:45:48,261 Whatever. Would this be coming out of theThe chief's budget, is it coming 662 00:45:48,321 --> 00:45:52,626 out of a separate budget? Mike said there was discussion of 663 00:45:52,626 --> 00:45:57,981 $10,000. Has anybody received the stipend as of date? 664 00:45:58,101 --> 00:46:00,411 No, actually, we had some problems with the state. 665 00:46:01,641 --> 00:46:06,771 We submitted three stipends for the state program for Firefighter One. 666 00:46:09,261 --> 00:46:12,111 One of them was received, the other two were not. 667 00:46:12,771 --> 00:46:18,741 I followed up a couple weeks ago and I spoke to a woman up there, I think her name 668 00:46:18,802 --> 00:46:19,371 was Nina, 669 00:46:21,261 --> 00:46:25,881 and she said no, we didn't get the other two but we have firefighter Sweeney's 670 00:46:25,942 --> 00:46:26,721 ready to go out. 671 00:46:28,011 --> 00:46:31,942 So I resubmitted everybody else's. It's a slow process. 672 00:46:32,001 --> 00:46:35,692 Takes anywhere from eight to nine weeks once you submit- 673 00:46:35,961 --> 00:46:36,471 It's the state 674 00:46:36,681 --> 00:46:42,111 ...and I think initially they were having some trouble on their end 675 00:46:43,611 --> 00:46:48,111 gathering all this information because they have a special W9 that you have to use. 676 00:46:48,141 --> 00:46:53,766 You can't use a standard W9. But we have a good understanding on the state right 677 00:46:53,811 --> 00:46:57,471 now, at least I do, of what form's required. 678 00:46:57,531 --> 00:47:02,976 And in addition to the stipend paperwork, there's also other forms that the 679 00:47:02,991 --> 00:47:06,156 department has to certify each year. 680 00:47:06,922 --> 00:47:11,901 The fire department demographics, as well as submitting their incident reports 681 00:47:11,961 --> 00:47:16,911 every year. If you don't complete either of that then you don't get your stipends. 682 00:47:17,541 --> 00:47:21,291 So that's some ongoing admin that has to be completed annually. 683 00:47:23,361 --> 00:47:28,371 I assume the secretary is supporting the fire department with some of those record 684 00:47:28,431 --> 00:47:30,111 keeping requirements? 685 00:47:30,261 --> 00:47:32,481 Yes. So we're working on that as well. 686 00:47:32,511 --> 00:47:37,761 Assistant Chief Calamari and I, we spoke about getting some duties together for 687 00:47:38,781 --> 00:47:42,381 that secretary and he's putting that stuff in writing and whatnot. 688 00:47:42,741 --> 00:47:45,366 His memo stated that she's looking for stuff so- 689 00:47:45,442 --> 00:47:50,241 She is. She is. So we're going to start with the annual physicals, and we're just 690 00:47:50,271 --> 00:47:51,052 going to ramp it up. 691 00:47:51,951 --> 00:47:52,821 Excellent. 692 00:47:52,971 --> 00:47:53,961 Sorry. That's the motion. 693 00:47:54,291 --> 00:47:58,641 Second on the motion to transmit the letter to the village board with all the 694 00:47:58,672 --> 00:48:01,552 aforementioned items from Commissioner Armitage. 695 00:48:02,571 --> 00:48:03,711 Any further discussion? 696 00:48:06,561 --> 00:48:07,431 Who's writing the memo? 697 00:48:08,271 --> 00:48:08,871 The chairman 698 00:48:11,106 --> 00:48:11,106 . 699 00:48:11,331 --> 00:48:12,111 Send me a draft. 700 00:48:14,511 --> 00:48:15,141 All in favor? 701 00:48:15,471 --> 00:48:15,861 Aye. 702 00:48:16,251 --> 00:48:17,001 Any opposed? 703 00:48:22,311 --> 00:48:27,471 Hot off the presses and an add to the new business is the letter from 704 00:48:28,491 --> 00:48:30,201 President Voight 705 00:48:31,791 --> 00:48:36,381 on firehouse use. A lot of good questions that I don't have answers to. 706 00:48:41,811 --> 00:48:43,071 Presents. 707 00:48:50,631 --> 00:48:51,516 Is this-- 708 00:48:55,011 --> 00:48:59,391 So what do you commissioners think? How should this be handled? I don't... 709 00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:06,411 In my opinion, previous use of the firehouse would go through 710 00:49:06,442 --> 00:49:12,291 the fire company to look for sponsorship and that sponsorship would 711 00:49:12,351 --> 00:49:12,922 then 712 00:49:14,271 --> 00:49:20,001 tie into members to be able to support the event or work in coordination with the 713 00:49:20,061 --> 00:49:21,351 event host. 714 00:49:22,731 --> 00:49:28,431 So I think there needs to be better communication so whereas if the 715 00:49:28,491 --> 00:49:33,261 village does get a request of use for the firehouse, that the first call should be 716 00:49:33,351 --> 00:49:38,211 to the president and set up a coordination call with the party who is requesting 717 00:49:38,302 --> 00:49:44,196 use of the firehouse and then work forward as far as any resources that are 718 00:49:44,196 --> 00:49:47,751 needed from the fire company or from the village to get that event 719 00:49:48,081 --> 00:49:53,991 make it happen. There's a lot of concerns that I think are 720 00:49:54,052 --> 00:49:58,791 completely valid in the memo and it can be 721 00:49:58,821 --> 00:50:01,911 easily coordinated and 722 00:50:04,552 --> 00:50:09,831 make sure the event is successful, not too heavy a lift for our limited resources 723 00:50:09,861 --> 00:50:14,931 with our volunteers. There are events in the village that have a lot of 724 00:50:15,351 --> 00:50:20,991 robust employees from the village supporting and perhaps there is an 725 00:50:21,081 --> 00:50:25,731 opportunity to have additional support to ease some of these scheduling conflicts 726 00:50:25,791 --> 00:50:28,656 that everyone has especially during the summer months. 727 00:50:28,791 --> 00:50:33,442 I could see some conflicts with that and competing priorities. 728 00:50:36,741 --> 00:50:38,451 Thank you. 729 00:50:45,172 --> 00:50:47,031 Going to personal support. 730 00:50:50,331 --> 00:50:55,791 So I don't see the need for the company to 731 00:50:57,591 --> 00:51:02,286 operationally support the event though 732 00:51:03,741 --> 00:51:08,361 the apparatus has to be moved and we really don't want anyone else doing that. 733 00:51:08,811 --> 00:51:12,141 Where do they go? They go in the parking lot, right? 734 00:51:14,121 --> 00:51:16,581 There are a ton of 735 00:51:18,172 --> 00:51:19,011 valid points, 736 00:51:20,932 --> 00:51:22,071 especially security 737 00:51:25,071 --> 00:51:26,422 and personal property. 738 00:51:28,041 --> 00:51:30,981 Chief how would you suggest handling this with the village? 739 00:51:31,521 --> 00:51:36,741 Because I know they probably just think it's just "Just do it, we're having an 740 00:51:36,771 --> 00:51:37,191 event." 741 00:51:37,371 --> 00:51:37,701 Yeah. 742 00:51:37,971 --> 00:51:38,751 Kind of the way it's been. 743 00:51:39,052 --> 00:51:42,531 So to your point it is the way it's been for many years. 744 00:51:44,871 --> 00:51:49,791 And a lot of times in the past the use of the facilities went through the fire 745 00:51:49,881 --> 00:51:52,761 company president as commissioner Han alluded to, 746 00:51:54,712 --> 00:51:59,631 and the village wasn't involved. But it is a village facility so they need to be on 747 00:51:59,811 --> 00:52:05,541 the same communication level as the fire company in terms of coordinating these 748 00:52:05,571 --> 00:52:06,501 things. 749 00:52:08,271 --> 00:52:09,411 In the past, 750 00:52:10,971 --> 00:52:14,661 and I'm sure Commissioner Armitage can attest to, it's not just moving the 751 00:52:14,751 --> 00:52:20,661 apparatus it's making sure that your truck floor is tidied up for people 752 00:52:20,721 --> 00:52:25,521 coming and going. It's the night before letting people in to drop off supplies. 753 00:52:26,212 --> 00:52:29,781 It's getting there early in the morning moving the trucks out helping them set up 754 00:52:30,591 --> 00:52:31,941 their tables and whatnot, 755 00:52:33,291 --> 00:52:37,941 helping remove the trash at the end of the day and putting the apparatus back. 756 00:52:39,052 --> 00:52:40,581 And 757 00:52:42,081 --> 00:52:46,761 I don't want to say that we're unwilling, we're just looking for an open line of 758 00:52:46,791 --> 00:52:49,911 communication so we can schedule this stuff. 759 00:52:50,841 --> 00:52:56,001 And I don't think that we should be relying solely on the volunteers to make this 760 00:52:56,031 --> 00:52:56,661 stuff happen. 761 00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:00,186 I agree. Just- 762 00:53:00,411 --> 00:53:00,591 Because- 763 00:53:00,606 --> 00:53:00,981 But then who? 764 00:53:01,491 --> 00:53:05,871 Exactly. Just last week Vales Gate had a wet down for their 765 00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:13,731 new ladder truck and obviously we were invited to attend but our drivers and our 766 00:53:13,821 --> 00:53:17,422 officers they were unavailable. They were out doing whatever they were doing 767 00:53:18,321 --> 00:53:19,851 spending time with their family. 768 00:53:22,672 --> 00:53:27,441 So it's not like we have a robust pool of individuals 769 00:53:29,182 --> 00:53:35,121 that are willing to commit six hours of their day on a Sunday to 770 00:53:35,691 --> 00:53:37,731 monitor the operation there. 771 00:53:42,291 --> 00:53:43,701 What do you think? Can we handle this? 772 00:53:46,716 --> 00:53:52,251 I would say it'd have to be a joint meeting between the village, the 773 00:53:52,311 --> 00:53:58,236 sponsor and a representative from the fire department and they can see what 774 00:53:58,251 --> 00:54:01,881 the FD can do, what the village wants to do. 775 00:54:03,052 --> 00:54:08,781 This event would need additional police officers 776 00:54:09,501 --> 00:54:14,871 that's a village expense, so I think it'd have to be a joint meeting between all. 777 00:54:15,351 --> 00:54:21,261 And I agree what Mike said we used to do it because again trying to be community 778 00:54:21,291 --> 00:54:24,922 based with whoever was trying to run.. 779 00:54:24,981 --> 00:54:30,891 I mean the Cornwall Lions Club ran a race there for years and drew huge 780 00:54:30,906 --> 00:54:35,241 crowds and yeah there was police officers there but the only ones ever doing it was 781 00:54:35,331 --> 00:54:38,001 us the fire department was doing the majority of the work. 782 00:54:38,422 --> 00:54:40,221 Not to say that the Lions Club weren't 783 00:54:41,902 --> 00:54:45,531 good backs to the fire department they would do stuff for us but it's got to be a 784 00:54:45,591 --> 00:54:47,661 joint effort I would say between 785 00:54:48,951 --> 00:54:54,531 a representative from the fire department, the village and the organizer of the 786 00:54:54,591 --> 00:54:58,071 event to figure out what's going to be done by who 787 00:54:59,709 --> 00:55:05,589 And what the village wants, there's insurance 788 00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:10,660 matters into it. So the villages have to be on board with it. 789 00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:14,440 I think the village requires proof of insurance from the- 790 00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:18,489 I believe so, yeah. I would think so. Yeah. And they charge a fee too. 791 00:55:18,729 --> 00:55:18,969 Yeah. 792 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:20,169 Also like $500. 793 00:55:20,229 --> 00:55:23,664 A fee for it. But again- 794 00:55:24,429 --> 00:55:30,384 That simply in my mind that fee should go to the company to offset some 795 00:55:30,429 --> 00:55:30,639 of the- 796 00:55:30,894 --> 00:55:34,750 Well you have to see what the village is going to commit. 797 00:55:34,794 --> 00:55:34,794 Personnel? 798 00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:39,729 I'm not paying them personnel and listen whatever and go back to the fire 799 00:55:39,789 --> 00:55:42,565 department. Listen, I support wholeheartedly but 800 00:55:44,019 --> 00:55:48,684 it might have to be more than $500. Again, that's something the village would have 801 00:55:48,699 --> 00:55:52,119 to work out, I think, with the organizer. 802 00:55:53,619 --> 00:55:57,459 If they only wanted 500, I would say the 500 should go to the fire department. 803 00:55:57,833 --> 00:56:03,369 And if they're going to absorb the cost with the PD or whoever their personnel then 804 00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:07,299 that's their responsibility, that's their option. 805 00:56:07,329 --> 00:56:12,280 But the fire department should get something out of it because as Mike said night 806 00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:17,949 before day listen we've done a lot of them and it takes time and people. 807 00:56:19,644 --> 00:56:21,549 So that's my recommendation. 808 00:56:22,209 --> 00:56:27,924 It's a tricky and sticky situation, right? So it's a village building. 809 00:56:28,554 --> 00:56:28,614 Mm-hmm. 810 00:56:28,614 --> 00:56:31,269 Right? Volunteers are there 811 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,669 for fire duty related activities. 812 00:56:37,809 --> 00:56:41,394 So sure the village can say we're going to use the building but then 813 00:56:42,819 --> 00:56:47,049 the volunteers don't-- Are not required to participate. 814 00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:49,449 mm-hmm. Again that would have to be- 815 00:56:49,959 --> 00:56:52,089 So what are they going to do send the mechanic to move the rigs? 816 00:56:52,359 --> 00:56:53,949 What about all the personal stuff? 817 00:56:54,009 --> 00:56:54,639 You know s- 818 00:56:55,690 --> 00:57:00,625 I think it would have to be a joint conversation between maybe the fire chief and 819 00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:06,144 the president of the company, the organizer and somebody from the building. 820 00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:12,099 But I think what we're looking for, or what I understand we're looking for is a 821 00:57:12,129 --> 00:57:12,879 policy. 822 00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:16,359 Policy. Well specific to that building. 823 00:57:16,419 --> 00:57:22,239 So the village does have policies, right? For use of their properties. 824 00:57:22,299 --> 00:57:27,309 Using that building is much different than using the pavilion at the riverfront. 825 00:57:27,489 --> 00:57:27,940 Correct. 826 00:57:30,190 --> 00:57:32,379 I think it's some of the same concerns about 827 00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:39,280 nobody uses the Village Hall or the Village PD for events or the 828 00:57:39,339 --> 00:57:39,969 DPW. 829 00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:46,900 and again we're not opposed I agree It's just That's not the point The point is how 830 00:57:46,929 --> 00:57:48,190 do we do it How do we do it 831 00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:52,509 so that it gets pulled off Um... 832 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,929 so you two months because it's the end of October 26th 25th 833 00:58:00,099 --> 00:58:00,400 so 834 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,254 and this event has happened in the past Right yes Mm-hmm 835 00:58:05,410 --> 00:58:11,319 yeah and typically and to be quite honest the the organizer was kind of 836 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,750 shocked that they had to go through the Village Hall this year Approach the company 837 00:58:16,780 --> 00:58:17,739 were told In the past 838 00:58:19,569 --> 00:58:22,989 personally they've approached my wife and whatnot because they're friends 839 00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:26,109 um so 840 00:58:29,949 --> 00:58:31,000 this 841 00:58:32,229 --> 00:58:37,089 President's memo was shared with us present It was not shared with the village 842 00:58:37,179 --> 00:58:37,539 board 843 00:58:41,019 --> 00:58:44,619 Very well written Is there any reason not to share it with the village board as is? 844 00:58:45,069 --> 00:58:48,549 I think we should send it off to the village board but with a memo with our 845 00:58:48,579 --> 00:58:54,099 recommendations to establish a coordination uh between all parties that would have 846 00:58:54,129 --> 00:58:59,619 a stake in the event first and foremost being the Fire Company 847 00:59:00,069 --> 00:59:04,449 and the impact on operations and membership 848 00:59:07,509 --> 00:59:07,509 . 849 00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:15,910 We 850 00:59:17,949 --> 00:59:22,449 fully support the community and all these events and we're unique in that Our fire 851 00:59:22,479 --> 00:59:27,669 company is on the main drag so it's hub Of the community People look towards 852 00:59:29,319 --> 00:59:35,184 whether it be the tree lighting or a race or Yeah Or 853 00:59:35,229 --> 00:59:35,709 whatnot 854 00:59:41,769 --> 00:59:47,650 If you recall commissioner This is a conversation that's been going on for A year 855 00:59:47,919 --> 00:59:49,269 Year and a half Two years now 856 00:59:54,190 --> 00:59:58,854 See thats part of the problem Not just with this one We've been talking about 857 00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:02,650 things and There's been no decision made On what they want to do 858 01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:08,769 Some decision Has to be made On how They're Going To handle 859 01:00:09,009 --> 01:00:10,329 XYZ Because 860 01:00:12,219 --> 01:00:15,160 I Agree We talk About it So 861 01:00:17,410 --> 01:00:18,759 i Say throw it To Them 862 01:00:20,619 --> 01:00:22,389 Their Building Their Property 863 01:00:24,849 --> 01:00:25,389 All right 864 01:00:27,250 --> 01:00:27,879 Anyone Else 865 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,349 Maybe Kirk Can Do That Memo 866 01:00:33,759 --> 01:00:38,799 Oh Yep Each Get A Memo One Memo For You Another One For You Another One For You 867 01:00:40,389 --> 01:00:46,269 Alright Thank You I Appreciate All The Input 868 01:00:46,389 --> 01:00:49,209 On Dragongoing Business Uh We Covered The Pump And Tanker 869 01:00:52,329 --> 01:00:54,069 Buildings And Grounds Maintenance 870 01:00:57,129 --> 01:00:58,959 And The Two 871 01:01:00,429 --> 01:01:02,619 That Have Been Here Forever Goals And Priorities 872 01:01:03,849 --> 01:01:04,944 Policies And Guidelines 873 01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:10,449 Does anyone Have Anything In Addition For Any Of Those 874 01:01:12,219 --> 01:01:17,169 The thing I would have is how are we going to meet now since we took the summer off 875 01:01:17,229 --> 01:01:21,549 yep mm-hmm and the village sort of gave guidelines that they didn't think we should 876 01:01:21,609 --> 01:01:23,844 meet monthly which 877 01:01:23,844 --> 01:01:27,938 Which thought about and that was started by Rich Gayard He was on the village board 878 01:01:27,969 --> 01:01:31,750 and we met monthly correct So that Was Why We Were Meeting Monthly 879 01:01:32,019 --> 01:01:33,819 Correct so 880 01:01:35,530 --> 01:01:37,629 make a motion that we meet quarterly 881 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,650 and if any business comes up during that an e-we can have an a meeting scheduled 882 01:01:45,669 --> 01:01:45,773 Would 883 01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:51,669 that need to Be Special Meeting Or Just Make The Schedule Quarterly And Then Have 884 01:01:51,729 --> 01:01:53,125 The Flexibility To Have 885 01:01:53,125 --> 01:01:58,959 Have The flexibility Between That Quarter Something That Chief 886 01:01:58,989 --> 01:02:04,509 Has To Bring Up Or Some Emergency Business We Schedule A Meeting And Deal With The 887 01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:04,959 Issue 888 01:02:05,259 --> 01:02:09,789 i Think Thats Reasonable Is There Any Notice That We'Re Required To Have As Far As 889 01:02:09,819 --> 01:02:14,125 The Meeting Goes Like X Amount Of Days Timeline Yes Before We Have The Meeting 890 01:02:14,125 --> 01:02:18,819 Yes The Public Meeting Law Says That They Have To Post It So I Have To Get An 891 01:02:18,879 --> 01:02:24,429 Agenda I Have To Get The Clerk An agenda In Enough Time To Post It On The Website 892 01:02:24,459 --> 01:02:29,169 And Social Media Its Typically 893 01:02:30,940 --> 01:02:35,229 Friday Before Monday Meetings So For This Week It Was 894 01:02:37,059 --> 01:02:42,819 Tuesday For Thursday Meeting So Wou-I Would Say 48 Hours Is I Think 895 01:02:42,879 --> 01:02:44,139 Would Satisfy Them 896 01:02:45,879 --> 01:02:47,769 Since Surely Attorneys Go With That Right 897 01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:52,719 In That Motion Ill Make That The Meetings Are January April July And October 898 01:02:54,759 --> 01:02:58,794 You Pick Out The Date You Want If You Wanna Keep It The If You Wanna Go Before The 899 01:02:58,839 --> 01:02:59,514 Board Meeting 900 01:03:00,819 --> 01:03:01,269 Correct 901 01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:03,280 Now 902 01:03:03,609 --> 01:03:09,549 a question I do have is with the village fiscal year is anything 903 01:03:09,579 --> 01:03:15,069 that we need to Should it may be February I Don't Know Include March Meeting Or 904 01:03:15,849 --> 01:03:21,369 well if you do a january meeting budgets are usually discussed in that 905 01:03:21,459 --> 01:03:22,764 timeframe correctly mike 906 01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:28,059 yes so youre Talking January april Then What Are We Next To 907 01:03:28,449 --> 01:03:34,389 july and october Yes Between October You Can Start Your Budget Talks In 908 01:03:34,569 --> 01:03:40,509 October Internally here Once You Guys Get Set On budget And Then 909 01:03:40,569 --> 01:03:45,474 Th-the village Starts Their Budget Process November Ish December Correct And Then 910 01:03:45,489 --> 01:03:48,339 In January When They Finalize Things Okay 911 01:03:49,419 --> 01:03:55,030 you wanna do with the we were doing it on mondays but if you want take Whatever Guy 912 01:03:55,209 --> 01:03:59,319 Dont Care Personally Aprils Good Because Thats When They Have The Reward Meeting 913 01:04:01,155 --> 01:04:02,535 Probably won't be here for July. 914 01:04:04,035 --> 01:04:06,285 That's okay. I might not be here either. 915 01:04:07,065 --> 01:04:08,535 You can call it, that's fine. 916 01:04:09,645 --> 01:04:11,596 I probably will be. 917 01:04:11,655 --> 01:04:13,606 Do you want to pick another month or just leave it that way? 918 01:04:15,135 --> 01:04:15,766 If I could add- 919 01:04:16,455 --> 01:04:19,425 So if you want to keep the summer months out of it per se. 920 01:04:22,606 --> 01:04:23,715 So then you want to go... 921 01:04:27,375 --> 01:04:28,305 While he's contemplating. 922 01:04:28,365 --> 01:04:30,766 January, March, May. 923 01:04:32,505 --> 01:04:37,846 The only two things that I have is that the company holds elections of officers in 924 01:04:37,935 --> 01:04:38,356 April. 925 01:04:39,465 --> 01:04:40,170 We have to approve them all. 926 01:04:40,185 --> 01:04:42,990 You have to approve those. So if your April meeting 927 01:04:44,295 --> 01:04:49,155 maybe want to do that later in the month rather than in the beginning. 928 01:04:50,476 --> 01:04:55,905 And then the only thing is the election of members is the commission has to respond 929 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,520 within 45 days of notification from the fire company on members. 930 01:05:00,016 --> 01:05:04,215 If there's no action taken from the fire commissioners, then it just goes back to 931 01:05:04,275 --> 01:05:08,805 the decision of the company. So that could just be hey, if we have a member you 932 01:05:08,865 --> 01:05:14,745 meet and you have a quick meeting and introduce him to the department but 933 01:05:14,775 --> 01:05:16,606 that's just couple things to keep in mind. 934 01:05:18,285 --> 01:05:18,555 Okay. 935 01:05:19,755 --> 01:05:23,596 Then I wrote let's do the meetings January and April. 936 01:05:24,045 --> 01:05:28,875 We do that April commissioner's meeting after the 937 01:05:29,596 --> 01:05:34,125 elections which is still the first Wednesday of April. Thomas? 938 01:05:34,290 --> 01:05:35,356 Mm-hmm. Yeah, it'll be the first week. 939 01:05:35,415 --> 01:05:35,955 It'll be- 940 01:05:36,705 --> 01:05:37,995 Yeah, it'd be April 7th. 941 01:05:39,330 --> 01:05:39,330 April 7th. 942 01:05:39,346 --> 01:05:44,266 And then we come back. We'll meet in September. Okay? 943 01:05:45,885 --> 01:05:45,900 Yep. 944 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:49,155 And we'll have a year end meeting like in December. 945 01:05:49,305 --> 01:05:50,655 That would be four meetings for the year. 946 01:05:50,715 --> 01:05:51,375 Yeah, that works. 947 01:05:51,675 --> 01:05:54,705 In that December meeting budget will be talked and-- 948 01:05:56,565 --> 01:06:00,346 That would be my recommendation if you want to keep the summers out of it which I 949 01:06:01,035 --> 01:06:01,695 would too. 950 01:06:02,445 --> 01:06:04,935 It's the longest commissioners meeting I've been to today 951 01:06:06,255 --> 01:06:06,255 . 952 01:06:09,465 --> 01:06:11,805 What do you think of that Commissioner? 953 01:06:12,405 --> 01:06:14,295 January, April, September, December? 954 01:06:14,535 --> 01:06:14,865 Yep. 955 01:06:22,215 --> 01:06:27,106 Okay, so that's the motion to meet quarterly in the months of January, April, 956 01:06:27,165 --> 01:06:28,395 September, and December. 957 01:06:30,226 --> 01:06:31,576 Is there a second? 958 01:06:31,726 --> 01:06:32,356 Make a second. 959 01:06:34,846 --> 01:06:36,165 Further discussion. 960 01:06:40,846 --> 01:06:45,405 So we're in September now, we wouldn't meet again until December unless-- 961 01:06:47,895 --> 01:06:52,846 Can we get the company secretary to notify us? 962 01:06:52,935 --> 01:06:57,375 I think they may be going, I'm not positive, they may be going to the village 963 01:06:57,465 --> 01:06:57,856 clerk. 964 01:06:58,785 --> 01:06:59,505 Just copy us. 965 01:07:00,945 --> 01:07:02,505 Should they come from the village clerk? 966 01:07:02,655 --> 01:07:03,495 They should, yeah. 967 01:07:04,005 --> 01:07:08,356 To the back. So it should go Secretary Village Clerk Board of Fire Commissioners. 968 01:07:09,090 --> 01:07:09,346 Mm-hmm. 969 01:07:09,555 --> 01:07:09,856 Okay. 970 01:07:10,485 --> 01:07:13,846 we'll confirm with the company secretary. 971 01:07:13,905 --> 01:07:18,226 I know we've had that discussion in the past, but we'll confirm that. 972 01:07:18,285 --> 01:07:23,625 Now reason for that was what is it, 45 days if nothing by the board? 973 01:07:23,685 --> 01:07:24,690 No action by the board then- 974 01:07:24,856 --> 01:07:30,315 Right. That's an important piece of the puzzle we need to know and then- 975 01:07:30,405 --> 01:07:30,585 Yes.. 976 01:07:32,295 --> 01:07:35,069 Just for clarification, if the company votes no on a member then there's really 977 01:07:35,115 --> 01:07:36,076 nothing for you guys to do. 978 01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:36,300 Correct. 979 01:07:36,391 --> 01:07:41,460 If there's a yes and you guys find there to be difficulty accepting the member into 980 01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:47,445 the department then that's the only reason why you really have to have a meeting. 981 01:07:49,785 --> 01:07:50,055 Okay. 982 01:07:56,101 --> 01:07:58,275 All right. All in favor? 983 01:07:58,875 --> 01:07:59,880 Aye. Aye. 984 01:07:59,895 --> 01:08:02,715 Motion carries. Any opposed? 985 01:08:05,266 --> 01:08:05,596 Okay. 986 01:08:08,445 --> 01:08:09,106 What else we got? 987 01:08:13,215 --> 01:08:14,295 Fair was a success. 988 01:08:15,945 --> 01:08:16,935 Even losing a day? 989 01:08:18,346 --> 01:08:18,615 Good. 990 01:08:19,995 --> 01:08:21,735 Was it more than a day wasn't it? You went- 991 01:08:21,885 --> 01:08:22,739 No this one night. 992 01:08:24,076 --> 01:08:25,860 Okay. 993 01:08:26,069 --> 01:08:28,726 Are the dates posted for next year yet? 994 01:08:30,465 --> 01:08:31,665 it's the same as last year. 995 01:08:33,915 --> 01:08:39,285 But we tend not announce them until after New Year because things may change. 996 01:08:40,275 --> 01:08:43,245 But I think next year you're going to have a new person running affair. 997 01:08:44,535 --> 01:08:45,645 I don't think I know. 998 01:08:49,096 --> 01:08:51,405 Right. 999 01:08:54,945 --> 01:08:55,545 Anything else? 1000 01:08:57,375 --> 01:08:59,955 I make a motion to adjourn this meeting. 1001 01:09:00,045 --> 01:09:00,795 Second. 1002 01:09:04,335 --> 01:09:04,935 All in favor? 1003 01:09:05,295 --> 01:09:06,090 Aye. Aye. 1004 01:09:06,106 --> 01:09:06,435 Thank you