[0:00] Yes, sir.
[0:00] Mm-hmm.
[0:01] All right.
[0:03] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the
[0:08] Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:14] justice for all.
[0:24] Hi Alex, I'm Rich Aimpola. This is the Board of Fire Commissioners.
[0:27] We interface between the village board and the firehouse, the chief, the captain,
[0:33] and the other officers.
[0:36] That is our job here. We accept you in, we
[0:42] take you off the rolls when you leave if you do stuff like that.
[0:47] Commissioner Hahn can speak a little on his own.
[0:50] Welcome. Thank you for joining the fire company.
[0:52] It's a solemn responsibility to be able to help others, especially our community
[0:57] during times of need. We're very fortunate we don't get many fires in our community
[1:01] but our community has a great need for what we're able to provide, and that's help
[1:06] during times of crisis whether it may be a flood or smoke investigation, carbon
[1:11] monoxide lift assists during medical calls.
[1:15] So it's a really important role that you're able to help fulfill, and it's great to
[1:18] have some youth involved because it helps ease the burden on the older members.
[1:22] So thanks for joining.
[1:25] Commissioner Armatash?
[1:26] I welcome you to us. First couple things you should remember,
[1:32] family comes first, school comes, religion, and then the fire
[1:37] department.
[1:40] You're joining a great group of men and women that serve the village, and we
[1:46] welcome you here.
[1:49] Thank you. Do you have any questions for us?
[1:54] No. There might be out of ignorance ones but besides, I think I am
[2:00] committed. I cannot leave. There are no stupid questions, only ones that you don't
[2:04] ask. Chief, would you like to... anything to say to Alex?
[2:08] No, we've spoken about the commitment to the department and the time and
[2:14] effort that has to be put in place. So as long as we continue with that, we'll be
[2:20] all right. Right.
[2:24] Okay. Copy that. Okay. Cap, anything?
[2:28] Nope.
[2:28] Thank you. So you're welcome to stick around.
[2:31] We have business to cover that concerns the fire department but you don't have to
[2:35] stay by all means.
[2:39] We do have to make a motion. Correct. Wonderful.
[2:42] I make a motion we accept.
[2:43] Second.
[2:44] All right, so we're making a motion to accept you as a member of the Village of
[2:48] Coram and Holtsville Fire Department.
[2:52] Let's go here. We'll go this and this.
[2:58] Any discussion?
[3:00] All right. All in favor?
[3:02] Aye.
[3:02] Aye.
[3:02] Any opposed? All right. We've accepted you as a probationary member of the Coram
[3:07] and Holtsville Fire Department. Thank you. Now you're free to go.
[3:17] Mm-hmm.
[3:22] All right. I sent the minutes out from the June meeting.
[3:26] Hopefully you had a chance to review them.
[3:29] I make a motion we accept.
[3:30] Second.
[3:31] Okay.
[3:34] Any discussion on the minutes? All in favor?
[3:37] Aye.
[3:38] Aye.
[3:38] Any opposed? Wonderful.
[3:42] Take care.
[3:44] So up first is membership
[3:50] report. We have a June membership report
[3:56] that the Captain sent to us.
[3:59] You guys will have one too. If not again, I made one but I
[4:05] don't have an August one handy on me.
[4:10] We emailed about two members coming off probation tentatively within the company
[4:15] next week at the company trustees meeting.
[4:20] Probationary firefighter Bain signed up for the VFO course
[4:25] while a couple other probies were
[4:30] moving through their probationary sheet and are working towards getting them signed
[4:34] up for Firefighter One. And then the active members, a couple of us are
[4:40] signed up for a basic vehicle passenger rescue course held at the Highland Company
[4:47] in September. Other than that there's nothing to add.
[4:53] Okay. Thank you.
[4:54] What about the members that resigned?
[4:58] They were accepted last night that they resigned.
[5:01] You should got an email or something from the secretary.
[5:05] Who is the secretary? Gloria Marino. Ms. Harris.
[5:10] Anyway, so last night Kyle Patterson and Tyler Delovo sent in their formal
[5:16] resignations within the company.
[5:20] Now obviously you can't be a member of the department without being a member of the
[5:25] company just so
[5:29] you guys are aware. They were supposed to send a memo. It might be coming later on.
[5:34] There was a quick turnaround from last night to today.
[5:35] So
[5:38] I don't really know if you guys need to take a vote on it.
[5:41] Any outstanding stuff out on him? Tyler has
[5:47] some equipment for the company and I think a department pager but we've been in
[5:52] touch with his family and we're going to get that.
[5:54] They both moved out of state.
[5:56] Make a motion we accept and let the chief and the captain follow through with the
[6:02] return of equipment.
[6:05] Second, with thanks for your service.
[6:07] So the motion's gonna be to rescind membership for Kyle Patterson and Tyler
[6:12] DeLillo. Would that be correct? Mm-hmm. Okay amended.
[6:19] I had Charles Noller on the list too.
[6:22] Has he already been addressed by the company? Yeah.
[6:28] He resigned a while back.
[6:34] I don't know exactly-- I don't think we took action on it, so I gotta amend.
[6:39] Didn't we give him a leave of absence?
[6:41] No, that was Wade. Charles resigned in June.
[6:46] That's the father though, right? Okay. I make a motion we accept it.
[6:50] We'll just yeah we amend it to add Charles.
[6:55] Luke Kapsak.
[6:58] Old news right? That's over a year ago.
[7:00] Well, I couldn't find anything in the minutes so we're going to add him anyway.
[7:03] Over a year? Yeah, haven't seen- okay well I didn't find anything in the
[7:09] minutes. I don't think we ever addressed it.
[7:12] He did give a formal resignation from within the company and - Company acted on it?
[7:17] Yeah. Mm-hmm. And you're waiting on Danes?
[7:21] Yeah. I got notification out to him.
[7:23] Obviously he's got a duty station in Korea so responding to alarms and drills will
[7:28] be a little bit difficult for him.
[7:30] We'll have to move forward with that.
[7:32] Will we wait until after the company makes a decision? Yeah.
[7:34] Well, we'll be back and forth talking to him.
[7:37] And he's made it known that he does not intend on coming back to live in the area.
[7:42] Okay.
[7:45] We brought up Wade. Did he return? Just out of curiosity. He did.
[7:49] Okay thank you. Alright. The motion rescinding
[7:56] membership for Charles Noler, Kyle Patterson, Lou Capsack who we missed, and Tyler
[8:02] DeLillo. And that went to a second. We've had discussion. All in favor?
[8:07] Aye.
[8:07] Aye.
[8:07] Wonderful. Thank you.
[8:10] Make a note.
[8:22] Monthly department reports: we have June and
[8:28] July.
[8:32] Let me get back to June.
[8:34] I have copies if you want to refer to them. No, I have them right here.
[8:42] Just to get back to June, we did apply for the
[8:47] FEMA Assistance to Firefighters Grant for new air packs.
[8:52] We applied for approximately $224,000.
[8:58] This is the third time that we've applied for this grant I believe in the last four
[9:04] to five years.
[9:07] We've been turned down the other two times.
[9:12] This will be successful. One of the hiccups with the application is the
[9:17] village's sam.gov account has to be updated.
[9:24] Before I retired, I spoke with the village clerk and the mayor, they're aware of
[9:27] it,
[9:29] and they were going to be working on it.
[9:31] But it has to be updated before we can be awarded any funding.
[9:36] Now, Chief, how many air packs is this for?
[9:40] I will defer to the captain on that. He did the count.
[9:43] So we started off with 33. That was taking into account the
[9:49] upcoming pumper tanker. We redid the numbers, reran, I think we're down to 28 or
[9:55] 27. That includes three air packs for training.
[10:00] So all seats will have some. They will be
[10:06] in regulation with the county's mutual aid plan, and we'll have something for
[10:10] members to take out to training. Right now we have packs that get taken out of
[10:14] service solely to take classes, and that leaves seat somebody with airbags.
[10:20] It does not include-
[10:21] What was the number? There's 28.
[10:23] Correct. Yeah. It does not include bottles for the air packs because over the years
[10:28] when Commissioner Armitage was chief and whatnot, we started rotation, so we were
[10:32] able to replace the bottles which are compatible with the new
[10:38] packs. That alone will save about $60,000.
[10:43] However, we are going to include new face pieces.
[10:49] We had the AV-2000s.
[10:52] Yeah. So a couple years ago, Scott discontinued our face piece.
[10:58] They had a sunset period of a couple years.
[11:01] I think next year is the last you can get parts for them.
[11:04] But with reducing the number of air packs, that will allow us to purchase new face
[11:10] pieces that are in compliance with today's standards.
[11:13] And what we found during the last fit testing, those older face pieces are so
[11:18] old that the rubbers dry rot a little bit and are no longer able to keep a good
[11:23] seal.
[11:25] Whether or not we get the new air packs, we got to start replacing the face pieces.
[11:29] Okay.
[11:32] That's about it for
[11:35] the June report.
[11:38] Do we need to accept them one at a time or... We don't have to.
[11:42] We'll accept both of them when you're done with July.
[11:44] Yep.
[11:47] July, just a couple ones there that we had a structure fire at 14 Cornwall Ave.
[11:54] We were very fortunate that call came in at two o'clock on a Sunday in July
[12:00] when most of our younger members are home from college, and some of our senior
[12:06] members are at home and not working.
[12:09] We were able to respond pretty quickly and get the fire knocked down.
[12:13] Actually, we had the fire knocked down before the mutual aid that we had requested
[12:19] arrived on scene.
[12:22] A question came up about our use of mutual aid for that call.
[12:27] Just so the board's aware, the whole village is preplanned
[12:33] for building fires. The captain, the assistant chief, worked several
[12:39] days updating that plan.
[12:42] And that plan for residential buildings is based upon whether the house
[12:48] is 800 square feet or 8,000 square feet.
[12:52] You're getting the same resources when you have an active fire.
[12:57] So that's why when you see the robust response,
[13:03] it's not necessarily indicative of the size of the building or the extent, it's
[13:09] just that's our standard for a second alarm fire.
[13:13] And I will note that response was also just, I believe it was one
[13:19] unit more than what the city of Newburgh gets for their fires, and that's because
[13:23] we have a dedicated fast team.
[13:25] Chief, were there any departments in your mutual aid plan that weren't able to
[13:28] respond?
[13:29] There was.
[13:32] but yeah.
[13:33] That plan compensates enough with that consideration.
[13:36] Correct.
[13:37] I will say that the company or the department that wasn't able to respond is
[13:40] because the request apparatus was out of service.
[13:45] Okay. Great. Thank you.
[13:47] All right. Also in July, we went to a carbon monoxide emergency over at
[13:52] the
[13:54] Curie Road Apartments.
[13:57] You'll notice that the levels were upwards of 700 parts per million, which is a
[14:02] pretty lethal dose.
[14:06] When that occurs, that's another example of
[14:11] the importance of having up-to-date equipment with the SCBAs, because not only do
[14:16] we use them for house fires, building fires, car fires, but when we run into
[14:21] hazardous conditions such as that, they get used as well.
[14:27] Let's see.
[14:30] And I started making note of our response times.
[14:34] Our average response time in July was eight minutes 32 seconds.
[14:37] That's from the time that 911 gets the call; like that's right when they pick up
[14:42] the phone. It's before they dispatch us.
[14:45] To arrive on scene within eight minutes, and that's including two mutual aid fires
[14:49] to the Cornwall Fire Department in Salisbury Mills, which was a considerably
[14:53] lengthier response time
[14:55] because of the distance.
[14:56] Both responses are included in that 8:32.
[15:04] And that is it.
[15:07] Any questions for the chief? I just have two comments about the report.
[15:11] First, the fire.
[15:14] You probably didn't know, but I went down and I did watch the operation.
[15:18] I stayed away from the professionals that were doing it,
[15:24] and I commend.
[15:29] I also heard a lot of complaints about the mutual aid that was coming, and
[15:35] basically my answer to him is that you don't know how it feels when you're there
[15:41] and you have a fire, what's going to happen, what's going to happen next.
[15:46] So always would say it's better to have more and you can send them back. Mm-hmm.
[15:51] So I had no heartburn with that. With the Curie Road apartments, I don't know if
[15:56] you're aware that they have a new manager that took over- Yeah ..as of September 1.
[16:02] I had to deal with him on some issues because my house had a couple trees go down,
[16:06] and they were very cooperative. So I think if you have any issues he's
[16:12] going to be pretty well on top of it.
[16:15] We did have an issue for that carbon monoxide alarm where a couple of the
[16:21] residents made comments that, "See, this is why you shouldn't called 911."
[16:26] Just a couple uncooperative residents of the building because they were
[16:31] inconvenienced of having to be evacuated and whatnot.
[16:35] And also some housekeeping items that we've spoken with the building department
[16:39] about.
[16:42] In terms of that call on
[16:45] Cornwall Avenue, I had spoken to Commissioner Hanon about the mutual aid as well.
[16:49] And then thing that I will point out is if anybody has any questions about our use
[16:54] of mutual aid or our response to any alarms, everybody has my
[17:00] cell phone number. Pick up the phone and call me.
[17:05] It's a little bit disheartening to hear it coming secondhand from the commissioners
[17:10] rather than having somebody coming to me directly.
[17:14] Understood.
[17:17] I feel the same way. I make a motion we accept the reports.
[17:20] Second.
[17:22] Sounds good. Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor?
[17:26] Aye. Aye.
[17:27] Thank you. Budget reports. I sent-
[17:30] On to August.
[17:32] Oh, okay. We don't have it.
[17:34] I sent it to you. I sent it yesterday. Yesterday.
[17:39] Jess please do August.
[17:42] Alright, so August we had
[17:45] 20 events, 122.73 volunteer hours.
[17:49] Six of them were automatic alarms, three of which came in from the Old Hudson
[17:52] Valley Food Bank. We had a little bit of a problem there
[17:56] with their alarm system unable to reset it.
[17:58] The other issue that we had was
[18:01] the alarm company had no key holders on their list to come out at two o'clock in
[18:07] the morning each day to reset it. So we were able to silence it, and
[18:13] then each day, 24 hours would go by and it would go off again.
[18:19] So we spoke to the alarm company on Monday. I spoke to them.
[18:22] They've corrected that
[18:25] They now have a key holder list. And what it was, it was a water flow alarm.
[18:30] The compressor had burnt up for it.
[18:33] But again, we could only silence it. We weren't able to reset it.
[18:38] 413 is out of service.
[18:43] Thanks to Commissioner Hahn, we were able to locate a service company up in Lake
[18:46] Katrine, Premier Fire Apparatus.
[18:48] They're an E-One dealer, but they service all types of apparatus manufacturers.
[18:55] I was up there yesterday dropping a part off to them.
[18:59] I expect that somebody will be getting a phone call possibly tomorrow about it
[19:03] being completed so we can get it back here either over the weekend or early part of
[19:07] next week. By all reports, the maintenance is going well.
[19:14] They did tell me yesterday when they see an American LaFrance coming in, they
[19:19] cringe when they see it because they just don't know if they'll be able to get
[19:23] parts for it. But our American LaFrance is in good shape.
[19:29] They're making some necessary repairs to it.
[19:32] The one hydraulic repair, they're going to get us an estimate on that and they're
[19:36] going to get us an estimate on rebuilding the elevation cylinders.
[19:40] And also, they gave us a ballpark price; if we wanted to do a full
[19:46] refurbishment on it, it would be $1 million.
[19:49] But according to them, that's only buying you seven to 10 years.
[19:52] And again, it's an American LaFrance, so if you have any
[19:58] catastrophic failures with the cab or chassis, you're not going to be able to get
[20:03] the parts. So, but the ladder and everything's in good shape.
[20:08] So that was that.
[20:12] Pumper tanker, that's been pushed back to delivery in January.
[20:17] They had a tornado out by Pierce Fire Appliance plant.
[20:20] That's delayed some of the apparatus that was in front of it.
[20:25] So it's been pushed back a few weeks into January.
[20:29] So that's where we stand with that.
[20:32] That's all on that. Chief, I do have a question . Excuse me.
[20:37] With the food bank, it's under new ownership right? Yep.
[20:42] Who maintains the contact list and ensures that the Knox Box works? Yeah.
[20:48] It's strange. It's one building right?
[20:50] But their former code enforcement officer,
[20:54] Mr. Carmony required that each business have a separate alarm system.
[21:00] So even if you're in the new section-- Well, not new section.
[21:04] Where Sallyander is and that alarm's going off, if you're in the front half, you
[21:09] have no idea that alarm's going off because they have it sectioned off.
[21:13] I don't know why. They tell me there's only one stairwell that
[21:19] leads from one section to the other.
[21:21] In my mind, you would want the alarm to go off for both.
[21:26] So there's two separate
[21:30] keyholder lists, and I believe it's two separate alarm companies.
[21:36] So that's where we stand with that.
[21:38] Have you been in contact with the new building inspector to find maybe a better
[21:43] path forward? Not on that one particularly, no. Thank you.
[21:49] Where is 413? What's the name of the company? Premier Fire Apparatus. Okay.
[21:58] All right. We're amending the
[22:01] motion to include August. I missed it, I apologize.
[22:05] No worries.
[22:08] You're still riding your bike.
[22:10] Budget
[22:12] June and July was sent. July being
[22:19] a draft.
[22:22] If you had a chance to look at them, I don't know if there's any questions on them.
[22:29] Okay.
[22:31] I will note, I looked at them. Mm-hmm.
[22:36] When we get to t’other memo, but there seems to be about $150,000 in
[22:42] funding available for firematic equipment and expenses and about $50,000
[22:49] for firehouse maintenance.
[22:51] To commissioner Hahn's point about the maintenance items, there seems to be some
[22:56] money there that we can maybe jumpstart on some of those items,
[23:02] get that plan moving ahead.
[23:08] Is there any intent to buy some air packs
[23:13] before you hear from the grant?
[23:16] If we purchase them before the grant then are no longer eligible to be reimbursed
[23:19] by the grant.
[23:21] And when...What's the...?
[23:24] We're hoping to hear by January. The last time that I spoke with Mayor Kane, and
[23:30] this goes back several months,and it was not
[23:34] meeting setting or anything, but he did say that they were thinking about trying to
[23:39] purchase air packs through the bond for the pumper tankers.
[23:45] I don't know where that stands.
[23:47] Do we have a backup plan?
[23:48] Yes..
[23:49] Right now you don't have enough correct for the new truck, the new pumper tanker?.
[23:53] We do.
[23:55] Because we're going to be taking some off of -
[23:58] Oh, four. Yeah okay
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[27:41] And they did this year, I believe it's in the budget this year, put $100,000 into
[27:46] the capital reserve for fire apparatus.
[27:48] And I think that was their plan each year but I don't want to speak for them.
[27:54] It's good financial planning.
[27:56] Mm-hmm. Yeah and to that point,
[28:01] shortly after the Wilbur report was issued
[28:06] we had a financial plan put together that planned out the next 30 to 40
[28:12] years of purchases for fire apparatus.
[28:16] It took into account different prepayments, cash and bonding and
[28:21] bands. And I think the idea of that was to take
[28:27] into account the pumper tanker, the replacement of the tower ladder, and the
[28:31] replacement of the squad coming up.
[28:34] And I think at the 15-year mark of that plan, the bond payment for all of that
[28:40] would have been $345,000 annually.
[28:43] That was what the plan was, the financial plan that we had put forward.
[28:48] Again, that would give you 15 years to plan for that payment while still updating
[28:53] the equipment.
[28:54] Chief, you mentioned previously in our conversations offline about some sort of
[29:01] revolving fund to be able to enjoy maximum interest available
[29:08] on those types of capital-
[29:10] Yep
[29:10] ... funds your reserve funds. Can you speak to that?
[29:13] I can a little bit. Again, I think your best source for that would be the
[29:16] treasurer.
[29:19] So the village is a participant in the NYCLASS as
[29:25] is many municipalities and school districts.
[29:29] You can place your liquid funds in that, and this is a very
[29:35] short explanation of my understanding of it.
[29:38] We put your funds in there and you gain interest.
[29:41] At one point it was up to like 4% interest.
[29:45] But it's also liquid so if you need it tomorrow you can pull it out.
[29:49] I don't know how much of the funding that they have that's earmarked for the fire
[29:54] department apparatus that's in there,
[29:57] but it is certainly something to consider.
[30:01] I know a lot of school districts, they put all their funds in there right when they
[30:05] get the money and they just pull it as they need it because they're earning good
[30:08] interest on it.
[30:10] Yeah. I think that'd be to our benefit for our long term financial plan ensure that
[30:14] we're getting that interest.
[30:16] Correct.
[30:17] Thank you.
[30:20] Anyone else on budget?
[30:25] All right Chief Traynor thank you for your memo.
[30:30] Would you like to
[30:32] speak about it?
[30:33] Yeah. We don't have to go through it verbatim.
[30:36] Just wanted to update the Village Board and the board of commissioners where we
[30:39] stand with different items around the firehouse. We touched on a few of it already.
[30:44] Squad 411 we had some repairs done to that.
[30:49] That went over to Campbell Supply in Maybrook. It was there for a few days.
[30:55] There is a part that they had to order.
[30:59] I assume they've probably gotten it by now but we haven't heard from them and we
[31:02] would have to follow up with them so it's going to have to go back out for
[31:06] additional maintenance.
[31:09] One of the things that kind of dovetails into that is the fire
[31:15] department utility vehicle typically speaking, when one of the engines are out of
[31:21] service 415 the tanker becomes the backup.
[31:25] And right now the tanker we have is only a two man cab so we would use the utility
[31:31] to supplement that manpower for that but the utility is
[31:37] currently on loan to the building department.
[31:41] I think we started that back in April or May. I spoke to the mayor.
[31:47] The mayor assured maybe a 60 or 90 day loan so I'm not sure where that stands.
[31:53] One of the things that we also use that for is training; when the members go out to
[31:58] training or for rehab purposes such as the fire down
[32:03] on Bayview-- Or I'm sorry Cornwall Avenue.
[32:07] We used that to bring coolers down and whatnot.
[32:11] The members if they go out now to training they use their own vehicles and for the
[32:16] fire we had personal vehicles bring that down.
[32:19] I think that's probably more of a liability insurance wise.
[32:21] God forbid you get in an accident, you're in your own vehicle workers comp and all
[32:26] that good stuff.
[32:28] Chief, are we able to reimburse the members for their personal use of the vehicles?
[32:31] We are yes.
[32:32] Mileage wise? Thank you.
[32:37] So that's 411. Four one three,
[32:41] we covered that earlier. Once we get the evaluation back then we're gonna reconvene
[32:46] with the village board at some point hopefully this fall.
[32:49] My expectation is this fall to try and get a firm answer as to whether or not
[32:55] we're keeping what we have buying a refurbished rig, buying used,
[33:01] buying new, but we need to have a direction of some sort so that we can plan
[33:06] accordingly.
[33:08] The new pumper tanker we spoke about that.
[33:12] It looks like we have about
[33:16] $43,000 worth of needs equipment that has to go on there.
[33:21] I believe that was also in the memo I attached. A list of all that equipment.
[33:27] We've done our due diligence. We went out and gotten price quotes on everything.
[33:31] The captain's done his homework on that.
[33:34] So we're looking for some guidance about purchasing of that.
[33:37] It's our belief that we can purchase that out of the
[33:41] regular operating budget
[33:44] but we just need to confirm that you guys are ready to move forward with those
[33:48] purchases.
[33:52] Typically there's about $130,000 worth of equipment that is required to be on
[33:57] there whether that's to meet NFPA standards or just simply the Orange County Mutual
[34:02] Aid standards for pumper tankers but 90,000 of that we're able to
[34:09] reuse equipment from existing apparatuses and also some of that is the air packs.
[34:13] We're waiting to hear back on them.
[34:17] With the new pumper tanker coming the village is going to have to decide on how to
[34:22] dispose of engine 412 and tanker 415 Whether or not they wanna hire a broker to
[34:28] sell it do it through auction. Whether or not they wanna keep them.
[34:33] I would imagine we wanna keep at least one of them Maybe the engine initially until
[34:38] we get the new pumper tanker fully in service and we don't have any issues with it
[34:44] but that is something we're going to have to look at doing and there's gonna be
[34:47] some revenue from those sales
[34:52] which is gonna-- particularly the tanker could be significant.
[35:00] SCBA replacement we covered that a little bit earlier.
[35:04] Like I said we can't buy any of that yet until FEMA says yes or no on a grant.
[35:11] I explicitly asked that question if we could purchase that and use the money if we
[35:16] receive the grant and they said no.
[35:18] They would have to be purchased after receiving the grant.
[35:21] Chief uh what's the timeline for expected answer on award?
[35:25] I'm not quite sure. I know technical review was supposed to start this month.
[35:29] I would imagine probably November December he'll start rolling them out.
[35:35] And do you have a lead time on new air packs?
[35:37] Is there any type of supply complications there related?
[35:40] I'll defer to the captain on that.
[35:43] It will probably be about three months.
[35:45] Three months okay.
[35:46] Yup
[35:50] let's see
[35:53] and those air packs are 22 years old and again we were fortunate
[35:59] enough to purchase them with a FEMA grant way back in '04-'05.
[36:06] We are looking at fire ground radios. We're trying to standardize our radios.
[36:11] A lot of what we're using is over 25 years old
[36:17] If we purchase air packs either through a bond or a municipal lease or
[36:22] somehow ever we may do that then I think we can probably start replacing the radios
[36:27] with
[36:30] operating budget monies
[36:32] but I just don't want to do that if we're going to end up purchasing air packs
[36:37] using the budget moneys
[36:42] LOSAP.
[36:46] The gentleman from there, Mr. Perrett,
[36:50] he's called me a couple of times. He's looking for himself to come up and meet with
[36:55] the village leadership to go over the program. He's asked for a couple meetings.
[37:02] He's having difficulty scheduling those meetings.
[37:06] He thinks that using that opportunity, he can
[37:11] probably save the village some money by allowing him some latitude in terms
[37:17] of investing that money into LOSAP.
[37:20] And also, there's been some changeover in staff here, and he thinks it might be
[37:24] beneficial to have a one-on-one discussion with them so they
[37:29] understand what to expect from Hometown.
[37:33] Sure. Chief, would it be beneficial to bring him to the commissioners meeting and
[37:36] invite maybe a few of the Village Board members here if they're not able to
[37:40] accommodate at the Village board?
[37:42] Sure. I can certainly reach out to him and ask him to come on up.
[37:46] I'm certain he will.
[37:48] He tries to schedule his meetings around his other clients when he's up this way.
[37:53] The only thing I would caution is when you invite the Village Board, if you have
[37:56] three of them here, it's a special meeting for them as well.
[37:59] Of course.
[37:59] Could he attend a work session?
[38:01] He could. I'm sure he would.
[38:04] To my brain, that almost seems more beneficial to them because they're there
[38:08] anyway.
[38:08] Exactly. Nope, that's an option.
[38:14] Fire department facility maintenance.
[38:17] As Commissioner Lahann alluded to offline there, we did have a meeting with
[38:23] Superintendent Craft.
[38:25] We did start putting down some ideas of what needs
[38:31] to, going forward. Obviously, in the forefront of everybody's mind right now is
[38:37] the catastrophic failure or fire that Coldenham had at their firehouse.
[38:43] That's why sprinklers are one of the items on the list.
[38:47] I think sprinklers are very advantageous, but I think we have a lot of items that
[38:52] have to be on that list. As Commissioner Lahann and I have spoken quite a bit,
[38:58] over the course of about 10 to 15 years, we lost several of our members to cancer,
[39:05] which nobody wants to see that, but a lot of those cancers are now
[39:11] being tied back to firefighting activities.
[39:16] So I think there's things that we have to keep in mind for personnel safety as well
[39:21] as apparatus safety, station safety.
[39:24] We spoke about creating a comprehensive plan, possibly bringing the company in
[39:30] to develop that plan with us,
[39:34] and just start pecking away at these things, a couple items a year.
[39:39] But as he alluded to, there's some low-hanging fruit that can be taken care of
[39:42] relatively quick.
[39:49] Training stipend. Last year, the village approved the training stipend
[39:55] for the local courses that
[40:01] we take that the state doesn't pay for.
[40:03] I believe they authorized $10,000 in December for that.
[40:09] However, the code states that
[40:11] the budget for training stipends will be set annually through resolution of the
[40:16] Village Board.
[40:18] When we spoke, I don't know, Rick, were you with us when we had
[40:24] a meeting with the mayor about the budget?
[40:26] And we proposed $10,000 for the
[40:30] training stipend this year, and I just noticed it myself
[40:36] a month or two ago, that line item is not in the budget.
[40:39] So I don't know if they expect us to pay for it out of our operating budget, which
[40:42] we could, or do we need them to have a resolution?
[40:49] How do we move forward with that? Just need some guidance because we do have a
[40:53] couple of courses. The class is coming up in September for accident vehicle
[40:57] extrication. That would be eligible for a local stipend.
[41:00] So just need to get some clarification as to where that stands.
[41:09] And then utility vehicle, we touched on that earlier.
[41:14] One of the suggestions that Commissioner Hein had was maybe purchase a new
[41:20] utility for the fire department. The 2022 chief's vehicle was paid
[41:26] off, as far as I understand. And I believe the '23 will be paid off here, if
[41:32] not this year, then next. So it might be an idea to possibly buy
[41:37] another utility. If we do a utility, it would be a pickup truck or something,
[41:44] but that's open to whatever everybody's ideas were.
[41:48] And we could probably absorb that through the budget with our annual payment, just
[41:53] like the chiefs' cars.
[41:57] And that is it on the memo.
[42:02] Thank you for that and all the time that you put into it.
[42:05] Yes.
[42:06] And just to be clear, we're discussing, I need some guidance from somebody.
[42:12] I've not heard back from anybody. I'm just looking to move things forward.
[42:19] I'd like to make a motion that we send
[42:24] communication to the Village Board recommending that the fire department
[42:31] be able to purchase that $43,000 of equipment for the new
[42:36] tanker out of its operating budget.
[42:41] Also, in that memo, I would like to make a motion that
[42:48] we pursue a purchase of a utility vehicle,
[42:55] at the discretion of the officers of what type that would be,
[43:00] and that payment would come out of the operating budget.
[43:06] Since they really haven't done anything with the vehicle that has been given to the
[43:10] building department, which they said 60 to 90 days, I think that needs to be
[43:16] acted on because of liabilities and safety concerns regarding members driving
[43:21] personal vehicles to
[43:24] training and whatever they need to do. So I think we should do that.
[43:30] Make that motion. And also, in that, I like to make it that they schedule
[43:36] an
[43:37] appointment with this service award consultant at a workshop to go
[43:43] over his options regarding our plan that we have for the village and
[43:49] any ideas for the future.
[43:52] Yeah, and just to be clear on the LOSAP plan, right now it's underfunded.
[43:56] Yeah, I saw that.
[43:57] It's not by a lot.
[43:58] A thousand bucks or something.
[43:59] Yeah, it's a couple of thousand dollars.
[44:01] Yeah.
[44:02] But he believes that he can
[44:05] make a lot of that up by reinvesting it through a different fund.
[44:09] So the question, the money that's in there for investment in the
[44:15] amount, do you have any idea what it is?
[44:18] It's getting like 4%.
[44:20] No. What-- Is there 300,000?
[44:24] Oh, I don't know.
[44:25] See, I think that's something...
[44:26] I don't know. I think it's what the village has contributed the last few years.
[44:31] So understand that the original program is separate.
[44:34] I think in that program there, there's maybe $250,000.
[44:40] But still, there's money in it.
[44:42] Yep.
[44:42] Okay.
[44:43] And that's the one that's being closed out,
[44:46] as some of our more senior guys age out.
[44:51] The new plan, I think, has probably got three years worth of payments in it.
[44:55] Yeah.
[44:56] And typically what he does with his fire district customers-
[45:01] The big fire districts are making-
[45:03] Yeah
[45:04] ... They're making money. Yeah.
[45:05] He generally gets some document signed off on
[45:11] by the authority having jurisdiction.
[45:15] For us, that would be the village authorizing him to make money adjustments,
[45:20] movements to increase the interest.
[45:22] And also in that memo, a clarification to find out how the training
[45:28] stipends and where it's going to be paid from.
[45:34] I think that ties back to the budget question.
[45:39] Oh, yeah. Okay.
[45:41] Maybe it could be one memo.
[45:42] Whatever. Would this be coming out of theThe chief's budget, is it coming
[45:48] out of a separate budget? Mike said there was discussion of
[45:52] $10,000. Has anybody received the stipend as of date?
[45:58] No, actually, we had some problems with the state.
[46:01] We submitted three stipends for the state program for Firefighter One.
[46:09] One of them was received, the other two were not.
[46:12] I followed up a couple weeks ago and I spoke to a woman up there, I think her name
[46:18] was Nina,
[46:21] and she said no, we didn't get the other two but we have firefighter Sweeney's
[46:25] ready to go out.
[46:28] So I resubmitted everybody else's. It's a slow process.
[46:32] Takes anywhere from eight to nine weeks once you submit-
[46:35] It's the state
[46:36] ...and I think initially they were having some trouble on their end
[46:43] gathering all this information because they have a special W9 that you have to use.
[46:48] You can't use a standard W9. But we have a good understanding on the state right
[46:53] now, at least I do, of what form's required.
[46:57] And in addition to the stipend paperwork, there's also other forms that the
[47:02] department has to certify each year.
[47:06] The fire department demographics, as well as submitting their incident reports
[47:11] every year. If you don't complete either of that then you don't get your stipends.
[47:17] So that's some ongoing admin that has to be completed annually.
[47:23] I assume the secretary is supporting the fire department with some of those record
[47:28] keeping requirements?
[47:30] Yes. So we're working on that as well.
[47:32] Assistant Chief Calamari and I, we spoke about getting some duties together for
[47:38] that secretary and he's putting that stuff in writing and whatnot.
[47:42] His memo stated that she's looking for stuff so-
[47:45] She is. She is. So we're going to start with the annual physicals, and we're just
[47:50] going to ramp it up.
[47:51] Excellent.
[47:52] Sorry. That's the motion.
[47:54] Second on the motion to transmit the letter to the village board with all the
[47:58] aforementioned items from Commissioner Armitage.
[48:02] Any further discussion?
[48:06] Who's writing the memo?
[48:08] The chairman
[48:11] .
[48:11] Send me a draft.
[48:14] All in favor?
[48:15] Aye.
[48:16] Any opposed?
[48:22] Hot off the presses and an add to the new business is the letter from
[48:28] President Voight
[48:31] on firehouse use. A lot of good questions that I don't have answers to.
[48:41] Presents.
[48:50] Is this--
[48:55] So what do you commissioners think? How should this be handled? I don't...
[49:00] In my opinion, previous use of the firehouse would go through
[49:06] the fire company to look for sponsorship and that sponsorship would
[49:12] then
[49:14] tie into members to be able to support the event or work in coordination with the
[49:20] event host.
[49:22] So I think there needs to be better communication so whereas if the
[49:28] village does get a request of use for the firehouse, that the first call should be
[49:33] to the president and set up a coordination call with the party who is requesting
[49:38] use of the firehouse and then work forward as far as any resources that are
[49:44] needed from the fire company or from the village to get that event
[49:48] make it happen. There's a lot of concerns that I think are
[49:54] completely valid in the memo and it can be
[49:58] easily coordinated and
[50:04] make sure the event is successful, not too heavy a lift for our limited resources
[50:09] with our volunteers. There are events in the village that have a lot of
[50:15] robust employees from the village supporting and perhaps there is an
[50:21] opportunity to have additional support to ease some of these scheduling conflicts
[50:25] that everyone has especially during the summer months.
[50:28] I could see some conflicts with that and competing priorities.
[50:36] Thank you.
[50:45] Going to personal support.
[50:50] So I don't see the need for the company to
[50:57] operationally support the event though
[51:03] the apparatus has to be moved and we really don't want anyone else doing that.
[51:08] Where do they go? They go in the parking lot, right?
[51:14] There are a ton of
[51:18] valid points,
[51:20] especially security
[51:25] and personal property.
[51:28] Chief how would you suggest handling this with the village?
[51:31] Because I know they probably just think it's just "Just do it, we're having an
[51:36] event."
[51:37] Yeah.
[51:37] Kind of the way it's been.
[51:39] So to your point it is the way it's been for many years.
[51:44] And a lot of times in the past the use of the facilities went through the fire
[51:49] company president as commissioner Han alluded to,
[51:54] and the village wasn't involved. But it is a village facility so they need to be on
[51:59] the same communication level as the fire company in terms of coordinating these
[52:05] things.
[52:08] In the past,
[52:10] and I'm sure Commissioner Armitage can attest to, it's not just moving the
[52:14] apparatus it's making sure that your truck floor is tidied up for people
[52:20] coming and going. It's the night before letting people in to drop off supplies.
[52:26] It's getting there early in the morning moving the trucks out helping them set up
[52:30] their tables and whatnot,
[52:33] helping remove the trash at the end of the day and putting the apparatus back.
[52:39] And
[52:42] I don't want to say that we're unwilling, we're just looking for an open line of
[52:46] communication so we can schedule this stuff.
[52:50] And I don't think that we should be relying solely on the volunteers to make this
[52:56] stuff happen.
[52:58] I agree. Just-
[53:00] Because-
[53:00] But then who?
[53:01] Exactly. Just last week Vales Gate had a wet down for their
[53:07] new ladder truck and obviously we were invited to attend but our drivers and our
[53:13] officers they were unavailable. They were out doing whatever they were doing
[53:18] spending time with their family.
[53:22] So it's not like we have a robust pool of individuals
[53:29] that are willing to commit six hours of their day on a Sunday to
[53:35] monitor the operation there.
[53:42] What do you think? Can we handle this?
[53:46] I would say it'd have to be a joint meeting between the village, the
[53:52] sponsor and a representative from the fire department and they can see what
[53:58] the FD can do, what the village wants to do.
[54:03] This event would need additional police officers
[54:09] that's a village expense, so I think it'd have to be a joint meeting between all.
[54:15] And I agree what Mike said we used to do it because again trying to be community
[54:21] based with whoever was trying to run..
[54:24] I mean the Cornwall Lions Club ran a race there for years and drew huge
[54:30] crowds and yeah there was police officers there but the only ones ever doing it was
[54:35] us the fire department was doing the majority of the work.
[54:38] Not to say that the Lions Club weren't
[54:41] good backs to the fire department they would do stuff for us but it's got to be a
[54:45] joint effort I would say between
[54:48] a representative from the fire department, the village and the organizer of the
[54:54] event to figure out what's going to be done by who
[54:59] And what the village wants, there's insurance
[55:05] matters into it. So the villages have to be on board with it.
[55:11] I think the village requires proof of insurance from the-
[55:14] I believe so, yeah. I would think so. Yeah. And they charge a fee too.
[55:18] Yeah.
[55:19] Also like $500.
[55:20] A fee for it. But again-
[55:24] That simply in my mind that fee should go to the company to offset some
[55:30] of the-
[55:30] Well you have to see what the village is going to commit.
[55:34] Personnel?
[55:35] I'm not paying them personnel and listen whatever and go back to the fire
[55:39] department. Listen, I support wholeheartedly but
[55:44] it might have to be more than $500. Again, that's something the village would have
[55:48] to work out, I think, with the organizer.
[55:53] If they only wanted 500, I would say the 500 should go to the fire department.
[55:57] And if they're going to absorb the cost with the PD or whoever their personnel then
[56:03] that's their responsibility, that's their option.
[56:07] But the fire department should get something out of it because as Mike said night
[56:12] before day listen we've done a lot of them and it takes time and people.
[56:19] So that's my recommendation.
[56:22] It's a tricky and sticky situation, right? So it's a village building.
[56:28] Mm-hmm.
[56:28] Right? Volunteers are there
[56:33] for fire duty related activities.
[56:37] So sure the village can say we're going to use the building but then
[56:42] the volunteers don't-- Are not required to participate.
[56:47] mm-hmm. Again that would have to be-
[56:49] So what are they going to do send the mechanic to move the rigs?
[56:52] What about all the personal stuff?
[56:54] You know s-
[56:55] I think it would have to be a joint conversation between maybe the fire chief and
[57:00] the president of the company, the organizer and somebody from the building.
[57:06] But I think what we're looking for, or what I understand we're looking for is a
[57:12] policy.
[57:12] Policy. Well specific to that building.
[57:16] So the village does have policies, right? For use of their properties.
[57:22] Using that building is much different than using the pavilion at the riverfront.
[57:27] Correct.
[57:30] I think it's some of the same concerns about
[57:33] nobody uses the Village Hall or the Village PD for events or the
[57:39] DPW.
[57:41] and again we're not opposed I agree It's just That's not the point The point is how
[57:46] do we do it How do we do it
[57:49] so that it gets pulled off Um...
[57:53] so you two months because it's the end of October 26th 25th
[58:00] so
[58:01] and this event has happened in the past Right yes Mm-hmm
[58:05] yeah and typically and to be quite honest the the organizer was kind of
[58:11] shocked that they had to go through the Village Hall this year Approach the company
[58:16] were told In the past
[58:19] personally they've approached my wife and whatnot because they're friends
[58:24] um so
[58:29] this
[58:32] President's memo was shared with us present It was not shared with the village
[58:37] board
[58:41] Very well written Is there any reason not to share it with the village board as is?
[58:45] I think we should send it off to the village board but with a memo with our
[58:48] recommendations to establish a coordination uh between all parties that would have
[58:54] a stake in the event first and foremost being the Fire Company
[59:00] and the impact on operations and membership
[59:07] .
[59:15] We
[59:17] fully support the community and all these events and we're unique in that Our fire
[59:22] company is on the main drag so it's hub Of the community People look towards
[59:29] whether it be the tree lighting or a race or Yeah Or
[59:35] whatnot
[59:41] If you recall commissioner This is a conversation that's been going on for A year
[59:47] Year and a half Two years now
[59:54] See thats part of the problem Not just with this one We've been talking about
[59:58] things and There's been no decision made On what they want to do
[1:00:03] Some decision Has to be made On how They're Going To handle
[1:00:09] XYZ Because
[1:00:12] I Agree We talk About it So
[1:00:17] i Say throw it To Them
[1:00:20] Their Building Their Property
[1:00:24] All right
[1:00:27] Anyone Else
[1:00:31] Maybe Kirk Can Do That Memo
[1:00:33] Oh Yep Each Get A Memo One Memo For You Another One For You Another One For You
[1:00:40] Alright Thank You I Appreciate All The Input
[1:00:46] On Dragongoing Business Uh We Covered The Pump And Tanker
[1:00:52] Buildings And Grounds Maintenance
[1:00:57] And The Two
[1:01:00] That Have Been Here Forever Goals And Priorities
[1:01:03] Policies And Guidelines
[1:01:06] Does anyone Have Anything In Addition For Any Of Those
[1:01:12] The thing I would have is how are we going to meet now since we took the summer off
[1:01:17] yep mm-hmm and the village sort of gave guidelines that they didn't think we should
[1:01:21] meet monthly which
[1:01:23] Which thought about and that was started by Rich Gayard He was on the village board
[1:01:27] and we met monthly correct So that Was Why We Were Meeting Monthly
[1:01:32] Correct so
[1:01:35] make a motion that we meet quarterly
[1:01:39] and if any business comes up during that an e-we can have an a meeting scheduled
[1:01:45] Would
[1:01:45] that need to Be Special Meeting Or Just Make The Schedule Quarterly And Then Have
[1:01:51] The Flexibility To Have
[1:01:53] Have The flexibility Between That Quarter Something That Chief
[1:01:58] Has To Bring Up Or Some Emergency Business We Schedule A Meeting And Deal With The
[1:02:04] Issue
[1:02:05] i Think Thats Reasonable Is There Any Notice That We'Re Required To Have As Far As
[1:02:09] The Meeting Goes Like X Amount Of Days Timeline Yes Before We Have The Meeting
[1:02:14] Yes The Public Meeting Law Says That They Have To Post It So I Have To Get An
[1:02:18] Agenda I Have To Get The Clerk An agenda In Enough Time To Post It On The Website
[1:02:24] And Social Media Its Typically
[1:02:30] Friday Before Monday Meetings So For This Week It Was
[1:02:37] Tuesday For Thursday Meeting So Wou-I Would Say 48 Hours Is I Think
[1:02:42] Would Satisfy Them
[1:02:45] Since Surely Attorneys Go With That Right
[1:02:47] In That Motion Ill Make That The Meetings Are January April July And October
[1:02:54] You Pick Out The Date You Want If You Wanna Keep It The If You Wanna Go Before The
[1:02:58] Board Meeting
[1:03:00] Correct
[1:03:03] Now
[1:03:03] a question I do have is with the village fiscal year is anything
[1:03:09] that we need to Should it may be February I Don't Know Include March Meeting Or
[1:03:15] well if you do a january meeting budgets are usually discussed in that
[1:03:21] timeframe correctly mike
[1:03:22] yes so youre Talking January april Then What Are We Next To
[1:03:28] july and october Yes Between October You Can Start Your Budget Talks In
[1:03:34] October Internally here Once You Guys Get Set On budget And Then
[1:03:40] Th-the village Starts Their Budget Process November Ish December Correct And Then
[1:03:45] In January When They Finalize Things Okay
[1:03:49] you wanna do with the we were doing it on mondays but if you want take Whatever Guy
[1:03:55] Dont Care Personally Aprils Good Because Thats When They Have The Reward Meeting
[1:04:01] Probably won't be here for July.
[1:04:04] That's okay. I might not be here either.
[1:04:07] You can call it, that's fine.
[1:04:09] I probably will be.
[1:04:11] Do you want to pick another month or just leave it that way?
[1:04:15] If I could add-
[1:04:16] So if you want to keep the summer months out of it per se.
[1:04:22] So then you want to go...
[1:04:27] While he's contemplating.
[1:04:28] January, March, May.
[1:04:32] The only two things that I have is that the company holds elections of officers in
[1:04:37] April.
[1:04:39] We have to approve them all.
[1:04:40] You have to approve those. So if your April meeting
[1:04:44] maybe want to do that later in the month rather than in the beginning.
[1:04:50] And then the only thing is the election of members is the commission has to respond
[1:04:55] within 45 days of notification from the fire company on members.
[1:05:00] If there's no action taken from the fire commissioners, then it just goes back to
[1:05:04] the decision of the company. So that could just be hey, if we have a member you
[1:05:08] meet and you have a quick meeting and introduce him to the department but
[1:05:14] that's just couple things to keep in mind.
[1:05:18] Okay.
[1:05:19] Then I wrote let's do the meetings January and April.
[1:05:24] We do that April commissioner's meeting after the
[1:05:29] elections which is still the first Wednesday of April. Thomas?
[1:05:34] Mm-hmm. Yeah, it'll be the first week.
[1:05:35] It'll be-
[1:05:36] Yeah, it'd be April 7th.
[1:05:39] April 7th.
[1:05:39] And then we come back. We'll meet in September. Okay?
[1:05:45] Yep.
[1:05:45] And we'll have a year end meeting like in December.
[1:05:49] That would be four meetings for the year.
[1:05:50] Yeah, that works.
[1:05:51] In that December meeting budget will be talked and--
[1:05:56] That would be my recommendation if you want to keep the summers out of it which I
[1:06:01] would too.
[1:06:02] It's the longest commissioners meeting I've been to today
[1:06:06] .
[1:06:09] What do you think of that Commissioner?
[1:06:12] January, April, September, December?
[1:06:14] Yep.
[1:06:22] Okay, so that's the motion to meet quarterly in the months of January, April,
[1:06:27] September, and December.
[1:06:30] Is there a second?
[1:06:31] Make a second.
[1:06:34] Further discussion.
[1:06:40] So we're in September now, we wouldn't meet again until December unless--
[1:06:47] Can we get the company secretary to notify us?
[1:06:52] I think they may be going, I'm not positive, they may be going to the village
[1:06:57] clerk.
[1:06:58] Just copy us.
[1:07:00] Should they come from the village clerk?
[1:07:02] They should, yeah.
[1:07:04] To the back. So it should go Secretary Village Clerk Board of Fire Commissioners.
[1:07:09] Mm-hmm.
[1:07:09] Okay.
[1:07:10] we'll confirm with the company secretary.
[1:07:13] I know we've had that discussion in the past, but we'll confirm that.
[1:07:18] Now reason for that was what is it, 45 days if nothing by the board?
[1:07:23] No action by the board then-
[1:07:24] Right. That's an important piece of the puzzle we need to know and then-
[1:07:30] Yes..
[1:07:32] Just for clarification, if the company votes no on a member then there's really
[1:07:35] nothing for you guys to do.
[1:07:36] Correct.
[1:07:36] If there's a yes and you guys find there to be difficulty accepting the member into
[1:07:41] the department then that's the only reason why you really have to have a meeting.
[1:07:49] Okay.
[1:07:56] All right. All in favor?
[1:07:58] Aye. Aye.
[1:07:59] Motion carries. Any opposed?
[1:08:05] Okay.
[1:08:08] What else we got?
[1:08:13] Fair was a success.
[1:08:15] Even losing a day?
[1:08:18] Good.
[1:08:19] Was it more than a day wasn't it? You went-
[1:08:21] No this one night.
[1:08:24] Okay.
[1:08:26] Are the dates posted for next year yet?
[1:08:30] it's the same as last year.
[1:08:33] But we tend not announce them until after New Year because things may change.
[1:08:40] But I think next year you're going to have a new person running affair.
[1:08:44] I don't think I know.
[1:08:49] Right.
[1:08:54] Anything else?
[1:08:57] I make a motion to adjourn this meeting.
[1:09:00] Second.
[1:09:04] All in favor?
[1:09:05] Aye. Aye.
[1:09:06] Thank you