1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:03,379 okay [Music] 2 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,560 okay 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:19,920 reduction of the agenda fear is all the special meeting of 4 00:00:14,460 --> 00:00:19,920 September 7.23 agenda be adopted as oh 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:30,359 just the one uh just 20 seconds we got that uh 6 00:00:28,019 --> 00:00:34,160 I put Western caucus on Four Points anymore okay yeah like the registration 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:40,599 okay that's good yeah 8 00:00:37,490 --> 00:00:40,599 [Music] 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,760 thank you 10 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:53,239 okay that's your motion does anybody have any additions 11 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:59,539 okay all in favor okay 12 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:10,520 okay folks um I'll just give a bit of background there once a year it 13 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:18,860 counseled has to make organizational has to review 14 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:24,780 it and back when we started off right at the time the existing CEO 15 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:29,460 it was all the coveted and he left so we never really did it 16 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:33,360 made appointments or anything and it has to be done by resolution and we had a 17 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:39,720 temporary CEO that no we weren't ready for it so I just saw 18 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:43,920 it asked Jordan to I think it's time to get some committees together like we did 19 00:01:41,579 --> 00:01:51,060 tonight I think committees would really allow us to do more discussion like we 20 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:56,040 did prior to this meeting to um former committees and uh 21 00:01:53,460 --> 00:02:00,479 just move forward like we did in the past and I just look back at hours like 22 00:01:57,659 --> 00:02:05,100 we used to have them then once the Committees are performed the chairperson 23 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:10,979 can call them in the schedule came up actually a year in advance this was 24 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:15,840 printed in 2021 for 2022. it's a good so then we don't have to 25 00:02:13,739 --> 00:02:20,879 predict when the meetings will be you'll put them on there and then you have them 26 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:28,260 an hour before Council Silva normally the Reeve and the seal sit down and 27 00:02:23,819 --> 00:02:32,580 make the commitments now this is the all the Committees that we had before I 28 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:38,520 added a few more and we can definitely after we've got pass this we can by no 29 00:02:36,540 --> 00:02:42,780 means uh I think there's a few other ones that we need to think about adding 30 00:02:40,980 --> 00:02:47,640 after this so there's that was the reason I I put this forward so I just 31 00:02:46,379 --> 00:02:53,459 thought I'd give everybody a bit of a heads up 32 00:02:49,340 --> 00:02:59,099 the motion in front of you there so we will have to Amanda organizational 33 00:02:56,340 --> 00:03:01,980 bylaw and things like that because that way that was why it was kind of a 34 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:06,540 Canadian item because right now your organizational Biola only lays out for 35 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,680 six committees which is just all your departments whereas you'll see in the 36 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:15,720 resolution it's uh a lot more over and above that so you have to include all of 37 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:20,099 that in your organizational Bible and we amend it but that will hold you back 38 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:25,440 today you can create a committee anytime you want it's just best practice to also 39 00:03:23,220 --> 00:03:31,200 make sure your organizational bylaw reflects all of these new committees 40 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:36,319 what their roles and and special duties in addition will be 41 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:44,940 oh I'll add to that as you you see in the three at the last 42 00:03:41,940 --> 00:03:51,540 one we will attend like there's three on that committee but I think at 99 of them 43 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:55,860 I think all council members showed up and they participated it's just that 44 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:01,379 that way each committee has a chairperson that individual will will do 45 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:06,680 the chairs underway added a few but I think it's important 46 00:04:03,659 --> 00:04:06,680 things are changing 47 00:04:08,060 --> 00:04:11,780 I can have a motion 48 00:04:11,819 --> 00:04:18,540 because we have to do it once a year and we really get that haven't done it yet 49 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,589 in the first year of office [Music] 50 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:32,360 okay 51 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:55,620 [Music] 52 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:06,419 speak nice and loud and clear where is bylaw number 1690 03 2020 is 53 00:05:04,139 --> 00:05:11,160 the arm of Cornwallis organizational biological government the organization 54 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:14,160 and the Committees thereof therefore being resolved in the following 55 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:19,560 committee appointment to be made for the real Municipality of Cornwallis 56 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:25,560 Number One Transportation Services committee will be a committee as a whole 57 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:29,400 with counselor Maxwell as the chair number two is the finance audit 58 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:34,139 committee and a capital replacement committee 59 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:38,699 Reid Hofer counselor Brown and Deputy Rivera says the chair 60 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:43,620 number three will be the recycling and waste health and safety committee 61 00:05:40,979 --> 00:05:48,419 councilors grow hand and Maxwell and counselor Brown is the chair 62 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:53,940 number four is a Personnel committee leave hoefer Deputy Lee Ross and 63 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:59,400 councilor Maxwell as the chair number five is the utility committee 64 00:05:56,039 --> 00:06:04,320 read over councilman growham and Deputy Reed Ross as the chair 65 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:10,080 number six Protective Services committee counselor Brown Deputy Reid Ross and 66 00:06:07,259 --> 00:06:15,240 councilor grillham is the chair number seven is a bylaw committee to 67 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,419 many of the whole counselor Brown is the chair 68 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:23,580 number eight is a policy and communication committee 69 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:28,800 Reed hoefer counselor Maxwell and Deputy ree Ross as the chair 70 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:33,720 number nine is an I.T security committee counselors Johan and Maxwell Deputy Reid 71 00:06:32,039 --> 00:06:37,979 Ross as a chair and number 10 is the aggregate committee 72 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:44,120 will be a committee of the whole with councilor grillham as the chair 73 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:44,120 can I have a second 74 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:54,139 councilman thank you okay 75 00:06:49,740 --> 00:06:54,139 anybody any questions or discussion 76 00:06:54,479 --> 00:07:00,780 looks like you put a lot of work into it thanks for your confidence yeah all 77 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:05,100 right guys I mean as you can see I didn't share in it I've got the big 78 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:11,419 meeting and I'll try to participate with anyone like I said before Folks at the 79 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:16,860 end of the day you're all there's only three required but I would 80 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:20,099 encourage to try to schedule a meeting so everybody can be here and you can 81 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:24,120 participate that's what we've done the last three or four years now I have a 82 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:31,259 question regarding the Committees are there terms of reference that that we 83 00:07:27,660 --> 00:07:36,539 can can align ourselves with in order to continue yeah I mean for example you 84 00:07:34,139 --> 00:07:41,160 take the I.T security committee right I mean that is that what you're talking 85 00:07:38,460 --> 00:07:46,139 about well anything that's what I was referencing with the organizational 86 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:49,080 bylaw where our organizational bylaw it lays out every single one because 87 00:07:47,699 --> 00:07:52,500 usually you review your organizational byline then includes your committees in 88 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,680 it so if you have a look at our organizational bylaw it'll State 89 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,919 Legislative and finance committee what their roles and responsibilities are the 90 00:07:57,539 --> 00:08:03,479 utility committee what the roles are thoughts but none of this exists okay 91 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:07,080 numb and then even you know the names of some of these committees and all that 92 00:08:04,919 --> 00:08:11,639 stuff too and so all kind of brand new you know 93 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:15,720 but you take the agony committee we learned a lot through the um at the 94 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:20,460 public hearing we had through the municipal Board hearing I mean there was 95 00:08:18,539 --> 00:08:25,680 a lot of good things that came out of that that I mean that can 96 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:30,720 now and we did say we're going to get the community involved but this is just 97 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:35,700 for Council to make decisions but yeah I think they're we need to put references 98 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:40,740 on to that one okay 99 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:44,760 is the CIO involved with all committee meetings 100 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:49,740 you know I mean our previous CEO was always there but no it doesn't have to 101 00:08:46,740 --> 00:08:54,260 be there but they normally normally would be grant us to to take them into 102 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:58,560 there yeah like some of these committees were the 103 00:08:56,820 --> 00:09:02,519 same I just added like you take Capital we're starting to 104 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:06,180 the finance committee usually did that but I just thought to clarify in the 105 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:09,660 capital Lincoln Green replacement uh buildings or lagoons and things like 106 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:15,500 that we can at least a little bit of me to it 107 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:20,640 recycle that's new it used to be just waste health and safety committee so I 108 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:29,300 just added the recycle there because that's are going to become a big issue 109 00:09:23,459 --> 00:09:29,300 or a big topic yeah take somebody 110 00:09:29,339 --> 00:09:33,899 to take some of the pressures off of Jordan or being on some of these 111 00:09:31,980 --> 00:09:38,220 communities that it doesn't really have to be on and he can do this delegate 112 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:42,660 authorities because one of the girls could come in for coming through that is 113 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:47,700 that correct well I'll have to give you guys but you guys saw me during regular 114 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:52,140 working hours yeah that's what I mean we have 20 hours right yeah 115 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:55,620 that's actually a good point of it if he feels he can delegate somebody and make 116 00:09:54,120 --> 00:10:00,200 Finance of course he will be I mean that's that's it but I mean some of the 117 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:04,200 other ones you know you can report we can do one of the other staff or some 118 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:09,180 other word I know Jordan you 119 00:10:06,660 --> 00:10:13,920 back in April May when you first sent me the list he had multiple other ones I 120 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:18,480 just thought we can do this one get the ball rolling then we can rely on that 121 00:10:16,019 --> 00:10:23,220 you said you formed a bunch of them in buy Frost like Parks and Recreation well 122 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:26,459 yeah like you guys simply didn't even know your committees when I was asking 123 00:10:24,779 --> 00:10:29,240 you and then you know we had a guy stop showing up and they're saying well why 124 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:34,440 aren't you guys appointing anybody here a couple months ago well we waited for 125 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:38,220 until you're free but I think it's time after five months we'll at least get 126 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:42,300 some committees going no but that actually that's a good point 127 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:46,399 if Jordan feels like you're gonna appoint somebody well I mean some of 128 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,399 them aren't yeah 129 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:54,959 no this we could we have to we can only give it one 130 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:59,100 reading right because no this is just a resolution we're not changing the bylaws 131 00:10:57,180 --> 00:11:04,100 tonight yeah because rafiello was going to get direction at the comedian yeah 132 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:11,100 but instead we're just gonna yeah okay anybody else but in is there any 133 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:14,420 additions that any other community so we can move this around on the 134 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:22,440 organizational by loss of it 135 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:26,399 parameters yeah like 13. procedure you haven't Ledo with the special duties 136 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:29,640 of the Hispanic communities are so each one of these is going to need a special 137 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:32,459 standing committee like you're refer to the attachment of the organizational 138 00:11:31,079 --> 00:11:37,399 bylaw it lists what media is and what their 139 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,399 responsibilities are 140 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:46,860 but you guys can do committees at any time you want 141 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:51,180 and but like you say what I like about once 142 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:56,279 the Committees are formed like the way we use them but this was started in 2020 143 00:11:53,700 --> 00:12:02,279 so for example at six o'clock the utility can be the Personnel or what 144 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:06,600 at any any given moment or but we know in a year in advance that was our 145 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:10,680 schedule so Jordan doesn't have to put over the schedule no you can still call 146 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:14,720 a meeting outside of that that's not a problem but I always like that 147 00:12:15,380 --> 00:12:24,440 does anybody have any concern like any questions I try to spread it around as 148 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:29,060 much as I could to there's your opportunity to share a few 149 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:29,060 meetings 150 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:37,079 yeah okay nobody else has any questions call 151 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:41,839 for the question all in favor okay 152 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,839 that's good 153 00:12:52,860 --> 00:13:01,620 I'll just give them a bit of a brief I got a phone call last week 154 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:04,980 from the salesman from the cab he called me first time I ever talked to him I 155 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:09,480 forget his name and they need to move from Bob 156 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:16,920 and he made me aware that we were made aware prior that our warranty is coming 157 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:21,420 to an end on the existing readers so um at the end of the day 158 00:13:18,660 --> 00:13:26,220 our warranty can be done so all he wanted was all like a commitment we 159 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:31,139 can't purchase them this year but well it wouldn't be available 160 00:13:27,660 --> 00:13:35,100 like the commitment that we would purchase them and they would honor that 161 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,420 warranty that's the way he explained it to me is that what you thought to you 162 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:44,220 heard from well Capital Equipment takes six months to a year or longer to 163 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:48,959 actually construct right now because the warranty period is concluding yeah you 164 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:54,600 need user need to commit to the purchase of a new one or our extended warranty 165 00:13:52,440 --> 00:14:02,100 just concludes goodbye so this will be the 2000 out of 166 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:06,000 the 2024 budget delay yeah oh yeah yeah if they want to be required during the 167 00:14:03,959 --> 00:14:09,060 purchase price up front no you guys are still need to decide where the funds are 168 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:12,560 coming from like you have money in your equipment reserved but there's always 169 00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:17,459 the option of other things as well and we know what the hours are on that you 170 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:22,500 know I did talk to another municipality how they work like better understanding 171 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:27,540 and they've seen that gentleman is very knowledgeable he's on the committee 172 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:32,820 there and at five thousand hours that's when they say is the Tipping Point I 173 00:14:30,779 --> 00:14:36,480 have no idea how many hours we have I think we're five years but not a bad 174 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:41,639 question would be better suited to Shane at a transportation yeah I think while 175 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:47,699 we're pushing six years now but I know five years of the books swings graders 176 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:53,459 quite a bit less hours than than Allen's greater 177 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:59,880 and just because of I think it was Pete maybe it wasn't out as often 178 00:14:57,079 --> 00:15:03,720 is you know maybe doing book work and whatnot but 179 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:08,279 um the six wheel drive had more hours on than the four-wheel drive 180 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:12,740 they're at the point where they should be rolling over yeah and I mean they're 181 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:17,519 not at a point where they're horrible shape which is where 182 00:15:15,779 --> 00:15:20,060 they get a nice resale value right now whereas 183 00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:32,519 so now right now we've got one 160 and one 140. what are we purchasing 184 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:37,139 here I didn't know what we got or are we going with six foot right like when I 185 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,079 from what I'm hearing the six wheel drive it takes quite a bit of fuel but 186 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,139 I'm just wondering well why does an all-wheel drive one is it and that's 187 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:47,880 what we currently have is we have one that's in all-wheel drive but is that 188 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:51,839 what we're purchasing here is identical replacement to what we got meaning a 189 00:15:50,220 --> 00:15:55,620 four wheel and a six wheel it doesn't say it in here so I just want to make 190 00:15:53,220 --> 00:16:01,980 sure we're we're clear on you well it's a 150 model yeah one all-wheel drive 150 191 00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:05,760 model one just regularly put that in there so 192 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:11,339 it's clear and what is the difference in dollar value I don't I haven't seen it 193 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:15,180 hold yet this is just a commitment to we're not really 194 00:16:13,260 --> 00:16:22,980 but that's all this is this is committing yeah two purchase yes that's 195 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:26,579 where we can massage okay oh we got the dollar value anyway no I'm okay with it 196 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:31,500 it just doesn't warranty is something that's a concern if 197 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:34,019 that's the only reason I asked the CEO to put it on here 198 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,860 no well if you don't have warranty and you 199 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:43,320 blow the transmission or blower motor you're looking at 100 grams and the 200 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,800 quotes on what's that equal time yeah the quotes on there but what are we 201 00:16:44,579 --> 00:16:51,079 getting with it we would not be getting like when we get to 140 150. 202 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:56,399 50 not here 203 00:16:53,339 --> 00:17:01,920 yeah not on the emotional no what would you want me to do well yeah it has to be 204 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:07,520 clarified in the motion you know they don't call them 140s 205 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:12,500 anymore yeah well whatever as long as we're we know what we're 206 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:16,980 purchasing and clearly it's only like all you wanted was 207 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:21,179 emotion I didn't even know about it then we're committing to 208 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:26,959 to making that purchase coming to reference and specific height 209 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:32,460 at 20. let's look at the code and uh 210 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,760 add that in there right yeah 211 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:39,799 um 212 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:51,559 where you've got a 140 M could you reference that and a 213 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:54,559 no 150.50 214 00:17:55,340 --> 00:18:04,320 everything that's generators or deserves yeah 215 00:18:01,559 --> 00:18:09,309 so they're both 150 this we're getting right okay 216 00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:09,309 [Music] 217 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:19,320 so it is about a 39. foreign 218 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,160 [Music] 219 00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:39,260 so the trade-in value is the same because one has less hours so the 220 00:18:37,140 --> 00:18:47,280 two-wheel drive okay so the hours is arriving more 221 00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:54,660 now I don't see the breakdown on the five years 75 what is the cost of that 222 00:18:51,720 --> 00:19:00,059 what do you mean or the extra warranty is not in here right 223 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:04,860 remember we got a Thunderball in the first meeting 224 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:10,760 the extra warranty if we go it's uh um if this service workers service 225 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,760 agreement yeah 226 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:19,620 well seven thousand five hundred dollars premium warranty 227 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:27,980 full service full service packages as well what's the cost of that we mean is 228 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,980 it important it's all included 229 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:36,360 remember that meeting well what was that well like he says you got 230 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:40,620 he voted against it I mean and reg Chapman at his first meeting this 231 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,160 thing came up he said he's going to hold an answer because he doesn't believe in 232 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:49,620 buying warranty and that's why it must be included here this is different all 233 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:53,160 all they're saying there with the 7 500 hours 234 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:59,640 is that they're going to extend the warranty 235 00:19:55,620 --> 00:20:05,100 until we get our new ones but we pay a monthly fee 236 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:09,780 to cat to service her yeah you see that in every accounts 237 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:13,860 payable run just a pointer board or Mr chair first like is there a motion on 238 00:20:11,580 --> 00:20:18,360 the floor at the moment one no no because that's right then well we need 239 00:20:16,620 --> 00:20:21,480 background information that we should have discussed that many of you but we 240 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:25,500 ran out of time if we want to make a decision tonight no you're right but 241 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:30,980 shouldn't we make a motion and then and then massage it yeah okay yeah go ahead 242 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,980 and if somebody wants to 243 00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:37,200 this refresh your age just yeah whereas 244 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:47,400 the real Municipality of Cornwallis utilize the services of canoe 245 00:20:45,179 --> 00:20:52,140 procurement of Canada for price quotes on two new motor graders 246 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:56,160 therefore be it resolved at the council will be real Municipality of Cornwallis 247 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,620 except the price quote prepared by timeline cat 248 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,700 [Music] the one million one hundred and forty 249 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:07,320 seven thousand with trade-in value or 530 000 for a net cost of six hundred 250 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:12,780 and seventeen thousand dollars plus all applicable taxes for the president of 251 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:16,039 two motor graders a 150 model and a 150 AWB Mall 252 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:31,620 should we add that it should come out of the 2024 253 00:21:30,299 --> 00:21:37,260 budget capital budget it looks like we're gonna 254 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:41,400 respect there's no heat on there but that's what I was wondering today that's 255 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:47,960 why he phoned me when's the delivery expectation on a six months well he said 256 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,960 Springtime spring 257 00:21:48,059 --> 00:21:54,840 I just and I reached out to another Municipal did the same thing and they 258 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:59,039 didn't put in cool costs in there all they did was make a motion the way you 259 00:21:57,539 --> 00:22:03,000 explain it to me is that they're committing to buy the 260 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:07,679 cat breeders a year over no and then you start 261 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:10,280 negotiating but actually the costs are over the years 262 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:20,280 is everybody comfortable with that or should we add just for the public 263 00:22:18,299 --> 00:22:27,740 they're going to be sure it's already on there okay yeah and all expenses born by 264 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,740 the 2024 capital budget 265 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:55,159 so our warranty just got extended yeah yes yeah 266 00:22:59,659 --> 00:23:04,520 all right do it tonight 267 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:16,339 [Music] 268 00:23:33,260 --> 00:23:43,940 so we heard it from the engineer here tonight there seems to be a lot of 269 00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:49,860 excitement confusion and all that and we call it community meeting because 270 00:23:48,059 --> 00:23:55,260 people wanted answers out there they wanted to know when can they call a 271 00:23:51,419 --> 00:23:59,100 plumber to go put their hose into the collar of their tank 272 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:03,299 and they weren't getting any answers so we called the community meeting Dan came 273 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:09,960 out there and explained to him you know they can do it and we heard them tonight 274 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:16,140 so the next day I came to the office two days later and 275 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:21,740 I seen a permit that was five pages longer that had me totally confused and 276 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:26,520 at the project meeting when Gerald was here from out of the wars or in Lauren 277 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:31,799 Ryan and Castle they wanted this information starting to go out in May to 278 00:24:28,980 --> 00:24:35,820 tell people about the excavation and where the project isn't 279 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:40,559 that information really never got out there and I took a point of myself 280 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:45,720 whatever Water Service war and Ryan shared 281 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:51,000 with the office just to make photocopies and call the meeting and give it to them 282 00:24:48,179 --> 00:24:55,919 and now one of the plumbers is getting pretty busy he wanted to come out there 283 00:24:53,340 --> 00:25:00,179 in early August but then people didn't have any information while Kirk was 284 00:24:58,260 --> 00:25:04,140 ready to come out there Terry nazard had him booked but he stepped back and 285 00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:07,919 knowing the information that's available out 286 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:11,100 there now looks like he's going to be already busy 287 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:16,020 so I wanted to bring Council up the speed and questions that came up but the 288 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:20,880 community meeting was the cost of the pump the pumps are 289 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:26,520 already including the project but we have to provide them so I called up the 290 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:30,329 where they came from Amco Dr Price's foreign 291 00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:30,329 [Music] 292 00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:47,580 up to the caller and I recommend it to Jordan and to Sabrina the other day 293 00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:52,020 through APD that it would be nice to have all the parts identical so 294 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:59,159 it doesn't matter which plumber you hire the valve and the check valve all that 295 00:25:55,140 --> 00:26:02,700 is the same the utility operator no doubt will keep a spare pump out there 296 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:07,260 so Jordan doesn't get called at midnight if a pump fails he could hand him a 297 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,760 check valve in a in a bowl though 298 00:26:09,059 --> 00:26:18,120 but in talking to Sabrina she says well the specs called for equal to well 299 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:25,260 middle of the winter you want to make sure everything fits the same and I got 300 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:25,260 the quotes and I forwarded to Jordan so 301 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:33,120 I'm just wondering how Council feels and how the CEO CEO feels too not to force 302 00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:38,580 everybody but basically get the same 303 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:43,740 supplies that were installed out there at the end of the day 304 00:26:41,059 --> 00:26:48,539 there's a couple ways you can do it do it the municipality could buy the 305 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:54,900 fittings so on the when the pump gets issued that valve and 306 00:26:51,059 --> 00:26:59,400 that check valve gets reimbursed by by the people on that cost that way you're 307 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:04,460 guaranteed when that pump gets issued the same ball valve and the same check 308 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:08,460 valve gets into every tank the engineers wanted to make sure that 309 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:13,500 all the pumps can't be interchanged engineer thought it was a good idea to 310 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:18,720 have everything equal so that way those things every tank is 311 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:23,480 different but once those parts go in and they come open they don't have to 312 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:28,440 retrofit anything to make everything identical so I'm just wondering where 313 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:31,440 how Council feels I send a quote to Jordan what was the total about twelve 314 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:35,940 thousand bucks and that money would come back like everybody buying a check valve 315 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:40,380 on the ball though the municipality and get the money back 316 00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:44,520 when they're ready to go out there the fittings 317 00:27:42,299 --> 00:27:49,200 so are you looking for a resolution then that is going to suggest that the 318 00:27:47,159 --> 00:27:53,220 municipality purchase these parts with the expectation is that residents come 319 00:27:51,659 --> 00:28:00,900 that purchase those parts from the municipality yes yeah hi that way you're 320 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:05,880 guaranteed deal with the ball valves and the check valves will be identical so 321 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,779 what happened last council meeting was Council passed the resolution for 322 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:15,960 Keystone planning district to administer the the pump and permitting process 323 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,860 because we need a permit so lab titles and assessment are aware that these 324 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:24,480 improvements have occurred and then it was to alleviate the weight off of the 325 00:28:22,260 --> 00:28:30,659 administration of the office with the being tax season so 326 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:36,419 um the Reeve has a supplied part list he wants the municipality to buy them all 327 00:28:33,299 --> 00:28:40,880 but he's it could be all put through the actual 328 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,559 Capital project where 50 of it would be covered under 329 00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:50,460 the Grant and 50 would be born into the total amount that we need to determine 330 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:54,480 the whole Road and a one-time buy-in and things like that it's just we're kind of 331 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:59,880 not on the same Highway even right now no the amount of water service board 332 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,659 said their funding stops at the host the hose is sitting up there's an email in 333 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:07,740 your attachment from August 31st this is hi Jordan we are good to cost share the 334 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,980 purchase only if the materials you have quoted you would have to buy them and 335 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,520 then send the paid invoice to us for cost share 336 00:29:14,299 --> 00:29:24,080 so we can discuss this and I'll make a resolution that uh uh the municipality 337 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:29,760 of Carnival is does hereby authorized Administration to go and 338 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:35,399 purchase those parts uh for the residents of cheater to 339 00:29:32,899 --> 00:29:38,940 buy vacuum municipality for the installation of their well I don't want 340 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:44,039 them to buy bats I want to put into the capital project so then so we don't have 341 00:29:42,539 --> 00:29:46,919 somebody coming in saying okay I want this pump and then they kind of get 342 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:53,640 their pump and then they're like okay well I gotta pay you you know 137.65 343 00:29:51,059 --> 00:29:58,380 for the parts put it all into the big big pot and then once the project is 344 00:29:56,220 --> 00:30:04,100 done it we divide it by a number of connections and then just disbursed even 345 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,100 like can we get that worded then 346 00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:12,919 I was just trying to Fast Track it here the project will pay for it 347 00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:27,480 but even the quote you got you've got 55 but I pretty through 55 isn't the actual 348 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:34,700 numbers well 55 I don't have I didn't go around count 349 00:30:30,539 --> 00:30:39,899 the houses your water users your utilities count minus one or that 350 00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:44,700 there will be minus one it was whatever but they don't need one Whatever 351 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,520 accounts you have you need one for every home because it's going to be the same 352 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:50,779 block valve and the same check well 353 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:57,960 yes you don't know that number then well no but 354 00:30:55,159 --> 00:31:01,279 yeah you want you need that number why don't you guys today yeah yeah 355 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:09,419 will be the same as the pumps I imagine I can tickle you well we had issues with 356 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:13,080 the past because there wasn't all of them purchased for the subdivision 357 00:31:11,460 --> 00:31:17,399 that's right and you don't need to pre-buy for homes that aren't built yet 358 00:31:15,299 --> 00:31:23,539 they will be we'll have to put that in the bylaw once 359 00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,539 the bylaw is established okay 360 00:31:26,899 --> 00:31:32,179 I think my understanding is there's two spare pumps 361 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,000 took something to refresh 362 00:32:17,399 --> 00:32:20,399 foreign 363 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:27,260 so then you're doing it away right so the engineering told you guys that it's 364 00:32:24,779 --> 00:32:33,899 on the RM to ensure adequate connection so anybody can come get poems 365 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:39,360 not plumbers anybody can do it you're only connect or you're only 366 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:43,380 revision or review of what's going on as you expect build wire to inspect it 367 00:32:41,399 --> 00:32:47,580 while it's open and then to open the curb stop 368 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:52,140 don't worry so then you're kind of doing away with 369 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:57,840 the permit well no the permit is to have that problem issued so you know 370 00:32:55,340 --> 00:33:02,159 Joe Smith picked up a bump I mean there's no Jewel Smith but you know what 371 00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:06,360 I'm saying so he has to sign out or check the box that that or that role 372 00:33:05,159 --> 00:33:09,779 no I haven't really understood what you've been saying on this whole Capital 373 00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:14,399 project all along that's why there's the communication gap so we got to make sure 374 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,940 we get this I wrote up the draft resolution for the 375 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:24,179 connecting parts now we need to know about moving forward well right now look 376 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:30,840 residents over there and the engineers giving us a go-ahead yeah to hook up the 377 00:33:28,019 --> 00:33:36,419 hose to hire their contractor to the column of the tank there's only one 378 00:33:34,019 --> 00:33:42,140 fitting that's required and there's only one fitting that will work and that's 379 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:48,179 the for that high density polyline okay so that's the only thing that can 380 00:33:45,539 --> 00:33:51,899 happen right now that plumbing permit is when you get the green light for 381 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:54,240 Manitoba Water Services Board that the system is commissioned meeting the 382 00:33:53,159 --> 00:33:59,159 legislation in a month or two months that's when 383 00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:04,440 that plumbing permit that we approved at the last meeting 384 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:09,480 that's when that permit comes in effect that 385 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:14,760 permanent identified that homeowner has taken a pump up either it's plumber or 386 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:21,619 the individual okay so now you're having the RM by 55 of these parts 387 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:26,399 so it's gonna have to be on us to individually pack each item 388 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:31,560 and ensure they go out when the pump goes up for each pump 389 00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:34,220 for each pump there will be a check weld on the Block valve 390 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:42,720 what you purchase them and you issuing with the pump 391 00:34:39,899 --> 00:34:48,659 yeah the check valve the ball valve the insert the adapter the insert actually 392 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:52,740 that should be up to their con like the contractor needs that now you can't do 393 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:58,700 that with the pump the answer is that special connection 394 00:34:54,780 --> 00:35:03,740 for that high density quality pipe you tell me how you want your resolution 395 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:03,740 the way I haven't said I 396 00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:11,000 said the adapter the insert the ball valve the check valve put it all through 397 00:35:08,339 --> 00:35:11,000 the grant program 398 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:17,760 individually bag them so when somebody comes in to collect their pump 399 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:22,020 as the adapter the insert the ball valve and the checkup 400 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:28,079 at the informational meeting a question was raised by a resident how 401 00:35:25,020 --> 00:35:33,540 much are the parts I went out the next morning found out where the parts were 402 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:40,020 purchased from that was from improve and they quoted me all the parts 403 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:46,079 okay yeah that's the code I sent you so right now when the homeowner Municipal 404 00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:51,000 is gonna say so or not or no jurisdiction 405 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:56,820 when they hired a contractor that insert will have to be purchased by either 406 00:35:53,040 --> 00:36:01,859 homeowner or brought by the contractor when the pump gets issued only the check 407 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:05,460 valve and the ball valve is required so they're all identical 408 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:10,320 so that we're not going to include the adapter and insert as part of the 409 00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:14,339 adapting the insertions and tomorrow 50 funding yeah it's 410 00:36:15,859 --> 00:36:27,440 it's too late to be doing a lot of people want to start hooking up 411 00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:31,500 so you've got two pieces so Bill okay yeah yeah identity 412 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:44,760 see either it's as clear as the air outside but 413 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:50,400 it's smoking by the way it's the insert and you adapter that's again no no the 414 00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:55,740 ball valve and the check valve with the pump that goes in the 415 00:36:53,000 --> 00:37:01,520 tanks have to be done to connect the hose to the top of the tank 416 00:36:58,140 --> 00:37:05,579 but that's on each individual yeah they're going to deal with that 417 00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:08,119 with their contractor it's a special fitting 418 00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:19,619 and the reason you don't want 55 are those it is at the meeting concrete 419 00:37:17,339 --> 00:37:25,020 tanks might not need that fitting they'll just put it inside the tank 420 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:29,460 because it's too thick to it for that that'll be up to the contractor you 421 00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:33,420 might want to put an ID on there or a union that's up to them 422 00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:37,619 there's quite a few concrete tanks out there being resolved with the arm of 423 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:43,859 Cornwallis authorize a purchase of the ball valve and the check valve Parts as 424 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:49,500 quoted by Emco Waterworks for the chainer low pressure system Capital 425 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:54,480 project and the invoice be paid and forwarded to the Manitoba Water Services 426 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:59,520 board for inclusion in the grant funded projects 427 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520 okay 428 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:03,190 [Music] 429 00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:08,400 discussion not anymore okay 430 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:22,820 here is all the council the armor Cornwall is hereby allow the existing 431 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:30,960 agreement with 686-4598 Manitoba limited to be amended 432 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:37,260 so the burn can be built in two phases phase one existing 433 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:44,180 phase two will be built outside of the agreed upon time of October 31st can I 434 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,180 have a second 435 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:51,780 okay so what this is about is the 436 00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:58,740 transcontinent industrial park the resident has a fence in the way 437 00:38:55,380 --> 00:39:04,020 in order for the developer to be free and clear of the development agreements 438 00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:08,579 and get their clearance certificates the burn 439 00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:14,760 will need to be extended further south the fence is in the way 440 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:19,560 we have uh all we met with the contractor 441 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:24,720 the developer and the resident he will move his fence and then the developer 442 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:29,280 will come back and finish the berm once the fences move but it'll be after that 443 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:36,300 October 31st deadline when's the approach go in uh the approach he's 444 00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:40,500 marked it two days ago three days ago uh the it will be done in the first phase 445 00:39:38,579 --> 00:39:44,480 and oh yeah it'll be done right away the the uh the Culvert was dropped off 446 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:51,000 yesterday afternoon and uh the developer contractor was made 447 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:54,960 aware of where the R2 Cuts they're going to do that and put the uh they're going 448 00:39:53,099 --> 00:40:01,380 to lay the Culvert in place and the resident is going to work at 449 00:39:58,740 --> 00:40:05,000 building the approach himself he's been made aware of that as well 450 00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:12,540 anybody have any questions all in favor Gary 451 00:40:12,839 --> 00:40:15,380 okay 452 00:40:19,859 --> 00:40:25,380 here's all the Council of the army Corn Laws hereby authorized repo for his 453 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:31,560 attendance at the Western Caucus meeting held in hardly Manitoba on Friday 454 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:37,140 September 15th 2023 at the registration expense of twenty dollars 455 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:40,760 I have a second I'll say again at Council Metro 456 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:49,320 there I wish I could attend myself if somebody else wants to go uh I'll make 457 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:54,000 an amendment and they're they're very 458 00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:57,839 pretty valuable in Old sessions because we're networking with other 459 00:40:55,380 --> 00:41:01,800 municipalities in the west but uh we were 460 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:09,480 you know Deputy Reid Ross from the cell phone to one in March February or March 461 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:12,900 and DeLorean was really good but I always thought that that when the 462 00:41:11,099 --> 00:41:16,859 advertising was for the Reeve and the deputy read but uh I'm going to 463 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,400 declarification next time open it up I mean you anybody that wants to go it was 464 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,780 really I thought I thought it was very 465 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:30,839 important so I don't get anybody any questions all 466 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:30,839 in favor Gary 467 00:41:32,220 --> 00:41:34,640 okay 468 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:39,379 [Music] 469 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:51,839 be resolved in accordance with the municipal acts section 152 3 sub Hera B 470 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:55,859 paragraph three Council because hereby close the meeting to the public and move 471 00:41:53,940 --> 00:42:00,300 in camera at 7 43 P.M 0. 472 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:07,220 any questions all in favor 473 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:20,079 [Music]