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A long, long time is Riverside Community college decision to

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put a satellite campus at mainland Park Ridge. This is

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all RCCD. Riverside Community College District took on. A difficult

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challenge and said, we want it. We want to be

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part of Corona and the voters. The voters said yes.

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So the Corona Education center, which is its official name,

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will be coming online. It'll take a few years, and

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I believe the final completion is 2030. But what? We're

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ultimately going to have is. An institution of higher education

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within our city boundaries. They've got a vision for that

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campus. To be a tech campus and how exciting for

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our community to have in Corona. Its very own college

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campus. An awesome project that's also up to come is

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the city park revitalization city. Park was built.

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Hello. Hello. Welcome, everyone, to our city council meeting of

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Wednesday, January 21. Very happy to see you. Please join

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me first in the pledge of allegiance. If you can

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stand and put your right hand over your heart. Ready?

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Begin. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice. Harlow. Thank you. Please be

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seated. We're going to convene open session at this time,

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I would like to call. The meeting to order. Ms.

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Edwards, can you please read the special instructions? Yes, mayor.

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Individuals wishing to address. The city council are requested to

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complete a speaker card and deliver it to city clerk

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staff. Prior to the item being heard by the city

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council, please observe a three minute limit for communications. And.

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One's called upon to speak. Please state your name and

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city of residence for the record. Thank you, mayor. Thank

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you very much. We're going to start with. A well

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deserved recognition. I would like to invite Corporal Joe Kelly

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and Canine Bruce to the podium. For this recognition. In

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the case, of course. Welcome. So we've got this great

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recognition, a lot of whereas, so bear with me. In

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recognition of five years of loyal service to the Corona

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Police Department, whereas Bruce is an eight. Year old Belgian

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Malinois. Born in the Netherlands, he arrived in the United

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States in 2020. Through Alderhorst International and was soon selected

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to become the next corona police department canine. Bruce. Completed

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the six week basic handler Academy at Alderhorst International, where

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he consistently demonstrated an exceptional sense of smell and energetic

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personality. In March of 2023, Bruce further showcased his ability

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by attending a specialized tracking course in Modesto, California. He's

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quite a worldly dog. Later that year, he successfully tracked

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and located an attempted murder suspect who was hiding approximately

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700 yards. From the crime scene. And whereas Bruce served

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the Corona police department for five years and was also

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a valued member of the special response team. Throughout his

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career, he played a vital role in. Enhancing community safety

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by locating numerous suspects and helping gain compliance from individuals

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who were uncooperative. Bruce assisted in 4325 calls, and he

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conducted 871 different searches. And whereas Bruce transitions into retirement,

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he will spend his days enjoying family walks, chasing his

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ball. Dismantling every chew toy he's given and spinning endless

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amounts and spinning in endless amounts. Of circles, although he

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will undoubtedly. Miss police work. Bruce has fully earned his

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retirement and the abundant family time that comes with it.

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Now. Therefore, I, Mayor Jackie Cassillas, on behalf of the

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city council, thereby gratefully acknowledge. Bruce for the dedication he

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has shown and the manner in which he has carried

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out his duties. As a member of the Corona Police

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Department, we wish you best wishes and a long. And

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happy retirement.

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Would you say a few words? Thank you, mayor. I

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just wanted to add to what the mayor said. Canine

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Bruce led a very distinguished career. Arcanine team are invaluable

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to what we do each and every day. We love

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our canine partners. And they truly are partners to their

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handler, I'm sure Joe's. The reason why Bruce has been

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retired. While he had a few medical issues throughout his

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career, is because he worked so hard in the Belgian

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Malinois. They just drive their drive. Is off the chart.

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Is, Corporal Kelly was promoted, and because of that, He

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went back to patrol, which took him out of his

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canine position. And after serving five years, which is a

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distinguished career, And the city allowed Corporal Kelly to purchase.

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Canine Bruce for one dollars, so he. 's officially corporal

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Kelly's dog, so I'm sure Joe is kind of being.

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Very cautious about what happens now. So thank you, Joe.

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Thank you, Canine Bruce. You guys had awesome career doing

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the canine world. I wish you more success. Can we

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get a picture with you? Can we get a picture

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right in front of the podium? Oh, yes, please. Can

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I ask his wife and children? To Corporal Kelly's wife

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is one of our dispatchers. So, like, for them to

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come down to please. Let's move this. I think.

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All right, we can head back up, and I will

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hand it over. Oh, actually, Ms. Edwards, are there any

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speaker cards from the public for the recognitions? Mayor, we

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did not receive any speaker cards for the recognition. Okay,

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in that case, we'll move on. To item 5.2 presentation

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about the Corona blood on board program, and I'll hand

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it over to fire Chief Brian Young, who will provide

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the presentation. All right. Do you want to do it

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from here? Okay. All right. Thank you Madamoran council and

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thank you everybody for being here. I just wanted to

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take a moment to provide a little bit of background

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before I share a rather incredible story. So the corona

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Far department embarked on a pretty significant. Initiative several years

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ago. That really focused on. Innovation, tenacity and excellence in

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service delivery. And a little bit more definition of what

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drove all that is. Back in August of 2022, several

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members of our ems. Committee brought forward. A very innovative

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idea that had never been seen before in the state

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of California, and that is to carry field blood. On

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our EMS units. This had been trialed and worked very

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successfully in small organizations in Texas. And Louisiana. But our

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small team. Of nurse educator Kelly Long. Captain Steve Douglas

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and captain. Captain Steve Wells and captain Chris Douglas started

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working on this thing in August of 22, and it

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was not an easy undertaking. First, I needed local approval

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from our own medical director. Then they needed regional approval

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from our regional medical director. And ultimately came the big

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bureaucracy of the state. So it took them until November

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of 24 to get this program. Off the ground. After

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their hard work and tenacity for all those years they

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received the EMS crossmead. Which is a highly prestigious recognition

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from the state of California, ems, and it brought us

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where we are today. Having. The first fire agency in

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the state of California, being the Corona Fire Department, to

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carry blood in the field. Incredibly innovative and driven by

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the men and women of the Corona Fire Department. We

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also knew, though, that there was more to this story.

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It wasn't just providing excellence. And service delivery. We knew

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that we needed a strategic partner. Blood is a very

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precious commodity, as many of you are aware. We didn't

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feel right just simply. Going to a blood bank and

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blind the blood. How many times have people heard the

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scenario of there's a blood shortage. We didn't want to

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be part of that problem, so we looked at it

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from a medical ethics perspective when we said, let's help

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solve this shortage of blood and start monthly. Blood drives.

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So, on the heels of being approved, we started these

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monthly bub drives. Since its inception. We have a total

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of 60 gallons of blood that's been donated by members

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of the corona fire department, by members of the city

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of Corona and by members of the community that is

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a perfect example of how we can all work together

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to have an ultimate positive outcome. 60 gallons of blood.

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That is mind blowing if you think about that. That's

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basically the functioning blood volume of almost 50 human beings

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that we have had people donate in order to make.

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A positive impact. Well, the whole reason we're here tonight

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is we had one of our very first survivors. From

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this corona blood program. That requested to be reunited with

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the crew's network, instrumental in a positive outcome. So with

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that I'm going to call up Vladmire. As the amazing

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survivor from his accident, he's going to share a few

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comments with you. And I'd also like to bring up

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the crews so they can reunite with Vlad as he

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requested to do so. The crews that responded please caught

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up flat. So with Vlad before I give him the

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mic. We have Captain Jake Portillo, we have engineer. Paramedic

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JD Tawni. We have engineer Kevin Campbell. We have firefighter,

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paramedic. Robert Aguilera and firefighter Justin Brower. So, Vlad, if

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you'd like. To say a few words. Hi. My name

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is Vlad. I reside in the city of Huntington Beach,

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California. The way this day started out was. Just like

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any normal day. I got the package with my new

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motorcycle mufflers. I started putting a Mongol and put on.

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Instructions said take 100 miles ride. I was like, all

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right, go up to Victorville, where my friend Sandy lives.

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Tighten the bolts. And I'll go back home. I get

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on the 55 in Newport Beach. I transferred to the

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91. I'm going up to 91. The express line is

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to my left. I'm doing about 60, 65 three car

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lengths back. EverYthing goes black. I don't remember anything. November.

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That was October 17. November 3. I woke up. All

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I knew is I was laying in a bed in

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a room. I didn't know who, what, wherewin or why,

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and it was the scariest moment of my life. Because

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all I knew is I was hooked up to machines.

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And. I couldn't even ask the questions that were in

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my head because the head trauma was so bad I

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couldn't get them out of my mouth. But I knew

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what I wanted. To ask. And that's when the long

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recovery process started. But get back on the topic of

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the blood drive. When the paramedics arrived on scene. Campbell,

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along with a few others, realized. The severity of my

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injuries. And the amount of blood I lost. Was just

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tremendous. And it was ultimately because of the blood transfusions

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at the scene of the accident that I am standing

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in front of you today because if it wasn't for

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those blood transfusions. In their blood bag at the scene

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of the accident on the 91 in Green river. Road,

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I would have been another statistic, and I would have

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been Doa at the hospital. Guarantee you that right now.

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So I'm very thankful for that. And. I took a

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law for granted before the accident. And tell you what

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I told people before. Tomorrow is not guaranteed. And life's

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precious. So when you guys hear about these blood drives

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in your cities, your counties, Go out and donate. Because

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it could save another life. I'm hoping with sharing my

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story that we can get this out to more cities

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and more counties. Because over the weekend we had another

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fatality in the city of Huntington beach involving. A motorcyclist.

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So really hoping we can get this moving forward. Sooner

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rather than later. That's all I got. Thank you. Glad.

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Grab a quick picture. Thank you, Vlad, for sharing your

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story and encouraging everybody to donate blood to this life

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saving program.

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Way to go. Thank you. We're glad to have you

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with us tonight. We're glad. That that program was successful

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and way to go. Corona fire department for being the

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first in the state to do that. We're proud of

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you guys. Okay. We're going to move on to item

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5.3. Presentation. The final design for the city park project.

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Ms. Donna Finch, community service director, will provide the presentation.

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Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council. I am really excited

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to be here tonight to present this important milestone in

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the city park. Revitalization. Project. I know. We've been working

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on this for a long time. We've? Been to council

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and the Parks Commission and the community multiple times to

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get feedback and input. On the design for this project,

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and we are really happy to be in the final

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stretch of this tonight. I'm going to be giving an

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update on the final design, and our ask is that

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the city council received this update. So before I get

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into the design, I just want to start with providing

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for those of you who aren't familiar with the history

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and background of City park. Just some of the important

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historical facts about the park that got us to this

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point. So City park was originally established in 1913. It

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is Corona's oldest historic park, and it has really long

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served as a gathering place for the community. Since its

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inception, it had been a place where people come to

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do family picnics, community events, parades. All sorts of things

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that really just brought the city of Corona residents together.

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It is the home of the historic municipal plunge. This

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was constructed back in 1925, and it was the city's

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first municipal pool. It operated for many, many decades as

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a pool. In different forms. The municipal plunge closed several

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decades ago, and then another pool was opened. We also

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had the founders monument that was constructed at City park

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back in 1936, so. It is a very historical, significant

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location, and it's something that. We really have a lot

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of pride in and want to make sure that we

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preserve it for many decades to come. Around the 1980s,

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we started to see a decline in City park. People

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stopped attending and participating in activities there as much as

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they did in the past. A lot of this was

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due to safety. Concerns deteriorating conditions in the park. And

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ultimately in 2020, the city park pool was closed due

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to some structural challenges with the park. And we began

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the process to start the revitalization of that site. In

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2021 objective was put into our city of Corona. Strategic

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plan to redevelop city. Park to include a new, full

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service, purpose built community center. And this is something that

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Corona did. Not have before. We had other sites that

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we had acquired and operated as community centers, but none

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that were ever designed intentionally. As a community center to

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serve the needs of our residents, so. With that goal

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and objective in our strategic plan, we began the master

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planning process for city park. That started in June of

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2022. It was an 18 month process that include a

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significant amount of community engagement. We went out, did door

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knocking, held pop up events in the park, did multiple

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community meetings, workshops. Brainstorming sessions with the parks commission, with

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the city council, and we collected over 2100. Survey responses

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from the community to really identify the amenities that the

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community wanted to see in the revitalized city park. In

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July of 2023, the master plan was adopted and we

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went directly. Into a request for proposal process to bring

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on an architectural firm to help bring this plan to

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life. In December of 2023, we brought on Rios Architects,

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who has been our primary architect on the project and

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we began the design process. And over the last two

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years, we've hit several milestones we completed. The 30% design

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in January of 2025. 60% design in April of 25.

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And then just this past December we reached the 90%.

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Mark, which is wrapping up our final design process. So

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with that, I'm going to go ahead and turn it

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over to our architectural firm. Rios. We have Bob Hale

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and his team here. They are going to be going

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through all of the primary elements of the design, walking

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you through the project, showing some really beautiful renderings that

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are helping to bring this project to life. And I'll

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wrap it up with next steps on the timing process.

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So I'll go ahead and turn it over to bob.

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Thank you so much, Donna. We are really excited to

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be here at this point in this project. We've worked

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very diligently, I think, with your team. They've been extremely

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great to work with. And we feel really terrific about.

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The product we've got to show you tonight. So I'm

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here with my team, and we're all very excited. To

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present it to you. We are, by the way, both

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the architects and the landscape architects for the project. It's

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one of the things. That we think we brought to

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the project that was unique. Is the ability to sort

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of see this as a whole project. Both inside and

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outside. So I'm here with Jason Shinoda as design director

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and landscape architecture. Robin Kim, who is the lead landscape

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architect on the project. And Simone Lapenta is our design

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director of architecture. So I think Jason's going to kick

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us off here. Thanks, Bob. So we want to start

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with our overall master plan. And really, when we look

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at this plan, we're just really proud of it, and

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that's because through the last few years of co creation

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with your team here with the city, All of the

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community input that we've received. The design really has held

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and stood the test of time through all of the

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development of the design from the very beginning. And so

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when we look at this plan, We can really strongly

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see the original ideas still intact. And just a great

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variety of experiences and wonderful spaces that. We're really excited

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to present to you today. So at the heart of

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the park, of course, is what we've always called the

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corona. Crown. And this is a celebration of the identity

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of Corona, the history of Corona, that's represented. By this

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big community canvas in the center that's embraced by trees

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and parkland. And then embracing that. On the east side,

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of course, is the community center, and it's really this

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interlocking of those two pieces that really forms the heart

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of this park for us. That's looped by a connected

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past, which you'll see in the lighter brown. There, which.

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Is our quarter mile Corona crown loop. And then the

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darker brown path is this framework of a meandering trail

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that connects the rest of the park and all of

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these different programmatic spaces and garden rooms and really ties

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the whole park together. In another three quarter mile loop.

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So that three quarter mile loop plus the crown lube

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form. A 1 mile loop for the whole park. That

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ties it all together. My colleague robin is going to

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now take you through the detailed design of all these

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different spaces. Thanks. So starting from the west, traveling east,

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we're going to focus on. What will be the new

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sort of multi wheeled skate park and pump track. One

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of the additions of this project that we were really

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proud to be able to bring more usability. To the

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idea of a mixed modal. Use of. Skate park. Bmx

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mixing together within the space itself. We also have updated

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outdoor basketball courts, which. We will have ample lighting to

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make sure that we'll be able to have recreation day.

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And night within the space. Moving. East. We're going to

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focus on the different sort of activity zones oriented toward

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a lot. Of play, namely. The new playground, custom playground

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and splash pad. That's surrounded by various picnic areas and

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recreation zones. You can see also that just to the

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east. We have the crown, the community canvas in which.

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We have a large lawn area and sort of. Burned

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backing to allow for everything from. Multi large music gatherings

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to other events that might happen within the city itself,

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with the community center as a beautiful backdrop to this.

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And as we go through the presentation, you will see

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more direct. Views of what we are talking about here.

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Just a bit more detail on the splash pad itself,

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you can see. Harkening to. The mining past of Corona.

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We wanted to make sure that we were highlighting. Various

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fun zones, but also having ways for sort of history

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to be revealed within the spaces you can see that.

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We have water towers, cascading water tables, sprayers. And again,

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we'll have some. Views that sort of really put you

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into the space. We have the aquatic center shown here,

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which is the combination of an activity pool and an

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actual competition lab pool within the area. Zooming in a

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little bit more, you can see within the activity pool.

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Starting with a very gracious entry. And depth of 18

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inches. The pool itself then gets to a depth of

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5ft to allow for a variety of different activities, whether

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it's sort of the exercise classes that might happen. There.

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Swim lessons, general. Play with families who might come and

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spend time here to the north. You will see a

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lazy river component with various interactive. Play elements. And then

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a vortex within the space. And then to the south,

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you'll see. Custom large tube waterslide and a specific landing

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area for that program. There's also a spa you can

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see. At the sort of upper right corner that would

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be integrated and allowing. Visitors and competitors and everyone alike

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to use the spa itself. And we have a canopy

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that will be dividing between. The activity pool and the

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competition space here. As you can see, the competition pool

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is a 25 yard pool. One change that recently has

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been added is we are able to provide. Two three

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meter and two 1 meter springboards, and thus the depth

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of the actual competition pool. Has increased to allow for

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that new activity. Surrounding the pool itself are also shade

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canopies. To make sure that. There is maximum comfort throughout

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the hot summer days. I'm going to let Simone speak

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a little bit more to the building now. Thank you.

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Thank you. So the building is conceived to be one

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with the park. It's arranging to three blocks and two

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wings, one on the north that we call the active

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wing and one on the south we call the quiet

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wing, and at the center it split. To accommodate for

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the central block, which we call the central hub, which

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accommodates the reception and also some of the amenity and

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function that serves the two other wings. On the north

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wing, we have what we call the fitness Wing, which

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accommodates for the main Gymnasium, which is a 20,000 sqft

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gymnasium. With an outdoor fitness that can also accommodate for

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exterior gatherings. And then we have two different fitness rooms.

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One is an enclosed space for different activities with machinery

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and equipment, and the other one can be used for

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group fitness that can be split into two for two

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different venues that can be used at the same time.

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On the southern side, we have the active wing, which

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we have assessed to be recipient for the banket, which

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is our crown jewel. It's a large gathering space that

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can be divided. Into two and accommodate up to 400

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people at the same time and. It provided with a

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dedicated kitchen for gardening and for dining. On the northern

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side of the wing, we have two conference rooms. And

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a game room and also some administration offices. These renderings

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really picks the arrival point to the community center. We

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can see how we arrive. At the community center through

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a beautiful, welcoming. Gesture where we can see how the

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building connects. The arrival point of the parking to the

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ground park. And this place, really, this beautiful open lobby.

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That connects visually the visitor to the park on the

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other side. Getting closer. We can see over here the

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lobby and the beautiful facade. There is a transparent facade.

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To allow for visibility and for light to come through

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and to really welcome the visitors to the experience of

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the community center and the overall park itself. Coming inside.

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This is the lobby, the main lobby. It's a very

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tall space of 40ft. At its peak. And splits the

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two wings arriving to the reception desk. As I said

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before, And we decided to split the height of the

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building with two different type of tonality of plaster to

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try to create a sense of human scale. At the

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bottom, still celebrating the beauty of the high, tall ceiling.

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There are. Carrying a warm wood to create this sense

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of welcoming space. On the opposite side we can see

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the reception desk. There is an embracing gesture. To welcome

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the people and kind of direct them to the different

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wings to serve also as a wife handing device. To

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distribute people along the two wings of the building. This

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is a view of the gynaium again. It's a 20,000

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sqft. Room. You might see on the ground multiple level

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of graphic. Lines. Those are basically to try to accommodate

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for different configurations. For different activities. That can be done.

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At the same time, it can accommodate from one to

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eight different field distributions. For a number of different venues

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and a number of different events at the same time

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can be split into two by a device's curtain that

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we have designed and the sitting areas that you see

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over here are retractable in order to accommodate for that

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flex. Flexibility. We decided to go for a very simple

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design. Humble, but at the same time full of character,

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painting in yellow all the trusses on the top. To

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kind of create a node to the graphic identity of

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the city of Corona. This is the Bankhead room, as

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I said before, can be split into two. It's completely

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cluttering into the same wood of the reception and the

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welcoming space. And it's. Open to a beautiful garden and

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outdoor cover area on the outside by two foldable window.

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System. When closed, it can accommodate for two different events

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at the same time. And we have created a series

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of chandelier at the center to create a center point

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of focal point for the space for the main event

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happening in the room. By the welcoming center at the

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entrance. We have provided a game room, which is a

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flexible space. With an open area in the center and

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a side section with a series of different type of

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casework and meal work that can accommodate for different types

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of activity and function as well as having a series

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of desks that can be used for people to. Access

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and work from here. The aquatic center. It's. A great.

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Point of attraction for the entire community center and the

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park. You can see over here, the big pool with

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the plants building in the back that serves as a

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background. And on the right hand side. The two slides

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that can serve as a beacon and a visible element

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of connotation. Of the park from the outside. We propose.

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To put a mural and paint the two sides of

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the plunge building facing the pool to try to create

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a backdrop to the experience of the pool itself. This

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is an area where I think that we can see

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how the building wants to provide. This continuity between the

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park and the community center, really displaying this beautiful hugging

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gesture between the architecture and the landscape and at the

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same time really trying to create this center of gathering

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for the community campus. From the community scam bus. The

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building wants to grow from the ground and be. These

475
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,720
POTUS gesture. They really celebrate the city of Corona as

476
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,040
an identity, but also as a new center for people

477
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680
to gather, creating this common ground that can be lived

478
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,440
outdoor, but also inside and the building, in its transparency

479
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,840
and porosity, wants to celebrate that indoor outdoor condition that

480
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,749
we can celebrate here in. California. Looking more close. This

481
00:33:29,749 --> 00:33:32,469
is one detail of the overhang of the canopy. The

482
00:33:32,469 --> 00:33:35,749
facade basically pushes in and out to try to accommodate

483
00:33:35,749 --> 00:33:39,069
for different type of activities that can be held outside

484
00:33:39,069 --> 00:33:42,980
in continuity with the spaces indoor. And with this, I

485
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:48,783
give to Robin the opportunity to speak more about. Park.

486
00:33:48,783 --> 00:33:54,317
Thanks. Here you can see. The custom age group playground.

487
00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:57,580
That will be one of the other sort of anchors

488
00:33:57,580 --> 00:34:02,383
within the park itself. We wanted to honor the history,

489
00:34:02,383 --> 00:34:06,183
the deep history within Krona that recognizes sort of the

490
00:34:06,183 --> 00:34:08,903
citrus industry and sort of how that comes into play

491
00:34:08,903 --> 00:34:14,741
and really. Worked hard to coordinate with the playground manufacturer

492
00:34:14,741 --> 00:34:18,781
to ensure that we brought a unique and authentic play.

493
00:34:18,781 --> 00:34:22,100
Structure that you would not find anywhere else. Along with

494
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:28,441
this, you can see. Not only the actual historic imagery

495
00:34:28,441 --> 00:34:34,769
of. Different. Citrus providers and such. The actual space itself

496
00:34:34,769 --> 00:34:37,649
has been designed around the mature trees that exist within

497
00:34:37,649 --> 00:34:41,369
the project. In addition we're trying to add also larger

498
00:34:41,369 --> 00:34:45,981
mature trees to provide shade in the areas. That aren't

499
00:34:45,981 --> 00:34:49,581
necessarily covered. Again, we want this play space to be

500
00:34:49,581 --> 00:34:52,621
integrated within nature and to embrace the fact that it's

501
00:34:52,621 --> 00:34:56,692
within. A really beautiful location as is, and to make

502
00:34:56,692 --> 00:35:00,578
sure that we keep that space. Feeling the historic trees

503
00:35:00,578 --> 00:35:04,862
and the beautiful spaces that are within the space. You

504
00:35:04,862 --> 00:35:10,613
can see here. Detail of the toddler play area. This

505
00:35:10,613 --> 00:35:14,053
is a design nod to the idea of pollinating those

506
00:35:14,053 --> 00:35:17,653
actual citrus fruits that become where the older kids play

507
00:35:17,653 --> 00:35:22,513
eventually. The idea is that kids will meander between the

508
00:35:22,513 --> 00:35:24,953
two play zones, but that there are specific areas that

509
00:35:24,953 --> 00:35:29,186
are oriented toward the younger crowd, but that gradually. They

510
00:35:29,186 --> 00:35:32,346
would buzz on over and play within the large, the

511
00:35:32,346 --> 00:35:34,986
older kid areas, I will tell you. My kids who

512
00:35:34,986 --> 00:35:38,626
have seen the renderings of the big kid area, or

513
00:35:38,626 --> 00:35:41,786
you're talking. About wanting to go there and so understanding

514
00:35:41,786 --> 00:35:44,546
that there's sort of this aspirational connection between the space

515
00:35:44,546 --> 00:35:47,790
was important. In the design and interactivity within the space.

516
00:35:49,306 --> 00:35:52,386
Here is an image updated image of the splash pad

517
00:35:52,386 --> 00:35:57,830
zone. Again harkening to the mining pass within Corona. The

518
00:35:57,830 --> 00:36:01,790
idea is that the precast water features would allow for

519
00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:05,990
different elements to have water towers that would have water

520
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:10,270
that could splash down. Waterfall elements, sort of interactive sprayers

521
00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:14,186
that are in the ground within rocks themselves. Surrounding this

522
00:36:14,186 --> 00:36:18,746
area would be spaces for onlooker onlookers to watch in.

523
00:36:18,746 --> 00:36:21,986
Dry zones. But then again, this zone was designed to

524
00:36:21,986 --> 00:36:27,730
be. Within surrounding existing trees. Again, trying to make sure

525
00:36:27,730 --> 00:36:30,130
that we preserve those trees and have those trees be

526
00:36:30,130 --> 00:36:34,126
an element within the backdrop of the space itself. Another

527
00:36:34,126 --> 00:36:37,686
view where you can really see kids getting in and

528
00:36:37,686 --> 00:36:42,114
interacting with the space. Here is a view of the

529
00:36:42,114 --> 00:36:45,874
skate park. This portion is looking west. You can see

530
00:36:45,874 --> 00:36:48,634
that this is the more traditional skate park, where you

531
00:36:48,634 --> 00:36:52,114
sort of see the urban rails and bowls that are

532
00:36:52,114 --> 00:36:56,474
coming within the space that's also integrated with the landscape

533
00:36:56,474 --> 00:36:59,234
and allowing for there to be a connection, but also.

534
00:37:00,674 --> 00:37:05,085
A separation within the space so there's full visibility. Within.

535
00:37:05,085 --> 00:37:08,325
And here you can see this is basically looking east.

536
00:37:08,325 --> 00:37:11,485
Now the pump track with the basketball. Court in the

537
00:37:11,485 --> 00:37:14,965
background that you can see again, there's this ability to

538
00:37:14,965 --> 00:37:17,885
connect between the skate park and the pump track to

539
00:37:17,885 --> 00:37:22,521
allow for various modes of use within the space. Going

540
00:37:22,521 --> 00:37:25,881
a little bit into trees within the park and historic

541
00:37:25,881 --> 00:37:31,121
preservation. This diagram here highlights the combination. Of trees to

542
00:37:31,121 --> 00:37:38,023
remain in place, trees to be relocated. And basically slotted

543
00:37:38,023 --> 00:37:41,983
in with the design, particularly around the aquatic center and

544
00:37:41,983 --> 00:37:45,947
then trees to be removed. I want to emphasize the

545
00:37:45,947 --> 00:37:48,347
fact that the trees that you see in green to

546
00:37:48,347 --> 00:37:51,361
remain. We wanted to make sure that we preserved and

547
00:37:51,361 --> 00:37:55,001
designed around the most beautiful, majestic trees that exIst. On

548
00:37:55,001 --> 00:37:58,361
site Itself. And so we have very big design moves

549
00:37:58,361 --> 00:38:02,201
in order to preserve those trees and have actually changed

550
00:38:02,201 --> 00:38:05,241
a lot of where the original design came in order

551
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:08,521
to accommodate and make sure that we're highlighting those trees.

552
00:38:10,074 --> 00:38:12,034
In orange, you can see the trees that we are

553
00:38:12,034 --> 00:38:16,071
hoping to relocate at various different plates. And then the

554
00:38:16,071 --> 00:38:19,631
project. And then, in addition, we'll be planting 205 trees.

555
00:38:20,671 --> 00:38:24,851
To the project. Here you can see the existing historical

556
00:38:24,851 --> 00:38:27,211
artifacts that exist within the site. We wanted to make

557
00:38:27,211 --> 00:38:30,171
sure that we relocated them in areas that would be

558
00:38:30,171 --> 00:38:34,571
integrated within the different rooms and entry sequences of the

559
00:38:34,571 --> 00:38:40,224
project itself. You can see also, for example, we want

560
00:38:40,224 --> 00:38:43,918
to highlight. The historic fig tree, that giant fig tree

561
00:38:43,918 --> 00:38:49,566
that's at basically along 6th street, so there's. Also. Some

562
00:38:49,566 --> 00:38:52,366
really great other specimens within the project itself that we

563
00:38:52,366 --> 00:38:55,246
wanted to make sure we highlight that's. Almost a botanical

564
00:38:55,246 --> 00:38:57,286
flavor that happens within the park, and we want to

565
00:38:57,286 --> 00:39:00,113
make sure that we honor that. I think I'm going

566
00:39:00,113 --> 00:39:04,506
to hand it over to Donna now. All right, so

567
00:39:04,506 --> 00:39:05,746
I just want to give a big thank you to

568
00:39:05,746 --> 00:39:09,186
the rios team again. They've been a great partner throughout

569
00:39:09,186 --> 00:39:14,810
this whole process. We've been working with them for over

570
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:17,010
two years. They really have taken the time to listen

571
00:39:17,010 --> 00:39:19,130
to us, to listen to what the community wants and

572
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:23,160
to create this really special design. That encaptures everything that

573
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,840
we were really hoping for for city park. So I'm

574
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120
going to wrap up the presentation by talking about next

575
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,600
steps. As I mentioned, we just finished the 90% design

576
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,831
mark in December. We're currently at about 95% design, and

577
00:39:35,831 --> 00:39:38,551
all of the major design elements have been completed on

578
00:39:38,551 --> 00:39:41,591
the project. We're just finishing the fine tune pieces to

579
00:39:41,591 --> 00:39:45,231
get this wrapped up. To 100%. Currently, we are going

580
00:39:45,231 --> 00:39:48,751
through a pre qualification process for the contractors to make

581
00:39:48,751 --> 00:39:50,871
sure that when we do take this project out to

582
00:39:50,871 --> 00:39:53,991
bid, we will have a pre selected pre vetted. Group.

583
00:39:54,207 --> 00:39:56,927
Of contractors that we know are highly qualified and able

584
00:39:56,927 --> 00:40:00,962
to give us. A quality project. And construct it within

585
00:40:00,962 --> 00:40:04,890
the parameters of what we've designed. That started in November,

586
00:40:04,890 --> 00:40:08,490
and we anticipate wrapping up that pre qual process in

587
00:40:08,490 --> 00:40:11,975
February. We're also going through the permitting process right now

588
00:40:11,975 --> 00:40:14,455
with the construction documents to get the project ready for

589
00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:18,295
construction. We anticipate that wrapping up in April, and at

590
00:40:18,295 --> 00:40:20,815
that time we'll be going to the historic preservation board

591
00:40:20,815 --> 00:40:23,295
to get final approval on the project, and then go

592
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:27,543
out to bid. Because we will have a pre qualified

593
00:40:27,543 --> 00:40:31,457
group of contractors we anticipate. A fairly quick turnaround on

594
00:40:31,457 --> 00:40:34,577
the bidding process. We've got two months allocated for that.

595
00:40:34,577 --> 00:40:37,097
For April and May, and then we will be back

596
00:40:37,097 --> 00:40:39,777
to you to council in July to award the project

597
00:40:39,777 --> 00:40:44,857
bid and begin construction in summer of 2026. So, again,

598
00:40:44,857 --> 00:40:47,337
very happy with where we are in the design process.

599
00:40:48,653 --> 00:40:50,453
And all of the iterations that we've been through, I

600
00:40:50,453 --> 00:40:52,653
know we've been here to council several times to do

601
00:40:52,653 --> 00:40:56,373
value engineering, also to make some enhancements to the project.

602
00:40:56,373 --> 00:40:58,693
With all those changes, we are really happy to say

603
00:40:58,693 --> 00:41:01,573
that we have stayed close to our original estimate, which

604
00:41:01,573 --> 00:41:05,413
is about $100 million plus or -10% so as we

605
00:41:05,413 --> 00:41:07,693
begin to go into the bidding process and get the

606
00:41:07,693 --> 00:41:10,843
contracts ready. For council award. We'll have those final numbers

607
00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:13,083
for you, and we'll be bringing that back in July.

608
00:41:14,577 --> 00:41:16,377
So again, our ask is that the council receive an

609
00:41:16,377 --> 00:41:19,217
update on the final design for City park. And we're

610
00:41:19,217 --> 00:41:22,097
happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Ms. Finch. And

611
00:41:22,097 --> 00:41:24,817
thank you, Rio's. Team. I'll bring it to my colleagues

612
00:41:24,817 --> 00:41:27,257
for questions, and then we'll go. To the public and

613
00:41:27,257 --> 00:41:30,897
we can come back for any comments, any questions, clarifying

614
00:41:30,897 --> 00:41:35,051
questions. Council member Zario just have three questions. What is

615
00:41:35,051 --> 00:41:37,471
the difference between. A warming kitchen and a full kitchen.

616
00:41:39,370 --> 00:41:47,998
A warming kitchen is really meant. For. Supporting a team

617
00:41:47,998 --> 00:41:54,628
that comes from outside. To. Cater. As opposed to a

618
00:41:54,628 --> 00:41:57,468
full kitchen where you've got people actually cooking from scratch.

619
00:41:58,534 --> 00:42:00,894
Got you. And then the pool size. I heard that

620
00:42:00,894 --> 00:42:03,374
it was 25 meters long. Do we know? What the

621
00:42:03,374 --> 00:42:08,014
width is. It's 25 yards long. 25 yards. Sorry. Yes,

622
00:42:08,014 --> 00:42:10,094
the width itself, I. Believe is, I want to say

623
00:42:10,094 --> 00:42:15,617
it's 22 yards. It's not quite the equivalent. Alternative. Okay?

624
00:42:17,835 --> 00:42:21,315
The reason I ask is like an Olympic size pool.

625
00:42:21,315 --> 00:42:24,195
The width is 50 yards or meters or whatever it

626
00:42:24,195 --> 00:42:26,675
is, it is 50 meters. So take the pool that

627
00:42:26,675 --> 00:42:29,715
you saw, where the lane markers. Were double it and

628
00:42:29,715 --> 00:42:32,075
then add some extra change. But I think the only

629
00:42:32,075 --> 00:42:34,475
thing that's important is the length of the lane so

630
00:42:34,475 --> 00:42:38,318
that there could be actual swimming events. The width. Of

631
00:42:38,318 --> 00:42:40,198
the overall pool doesn't matter, but it's the length of

632
00:42:40,198 --> 00:42:43,833
the lanes. Those are the proper length. They are. What

633
00:42:43,833 --> 00:42:47,473
would be regulation? Short course swing lane. So that's 25

634
00:42:47,473 --> 00:42:50,953
yards for an. Olympic size pool. It's 50 meters. So

635
00:42:50,953 --> 00:42:54,934
those are the two types of competition pools. And then

636
00:42:54,934 --> 00:42:59,561
the trees. That are going to be removed. Are we

637
00:42:59,561 --> 00:43:01,961
going to put any of those removed trees back in

638
00:43:01,961 --> 00:43:06,101
separate spots? The majority of the trees that we are

639
00:43:06,101 --> 00:43:10,750
removing. So we have actually worked closely with an arborist

640
00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:14,190
from this outstart of the project. To understand which trees

641
00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:17,390
were in good health. With trees we could easily save

642
00:43:17,390 --> 00:43:19,710
and want to preserve. The trees that could be easily

643
00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:22,510
relocated and then trees that are at the end of

644
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:26,510
their lives. And are either having issues with visibility or

645
00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:30,187
just. At a point where removal would have to happen

646
00:43:30,187 --> 00:43:33,798
within the next decade or so. And so we have

647
00:43:33,798 --> 00:43:37,822
noted the trees. That are being relocated that we noted

648
00:43:37,822 --> 00:43:39,462
in there, those are the ones that we find are

649
00:43:39,462 --> 00:43:43,628
the ones that we can easily put somewhere else. Okay,

650
00:43:43,628 --> 00:43:46,802
that didn't 100% answer my question. I know that there

651
00:43:46,802 --> 00:43:50,473
are some trees that. Are diseased and they would have

652
00:43:50,473 --> 00:43:53,873
to go. I know that there are some trees that

653
00:43:53,873 --> 00:43:56,193
have lived a great life, and it's time. They need

654
00:43:56,193 --> 00:44:00,448
to go. But the trees that are otherwise healthy. Are

655
00:44:00,448 --> 00:44:01,968
any of those trees going to go back in the

656
00:44:01,968 --> 00:44:04,728
park in a different location? Yes. Okay. That's what I

657
00:44:04,728 --> 00:44:06,928
wanted to know. Thank you. Lots of them. We have,

658
00:44:06,928 --> 00:44:12,576
I believe. 60 of them. 59 of them. That's great.

659
00:44:12,576 --> 00:44:15,171
Council member Richmond, do you have questions? Just a couple.

660
00:44:16,733 --> 00:44:20,373
For the landscaping, the community grass. Is that going to

661
00:44:20,373 --> 00:44:23,868
be. What species of grass is that, do you know?

662
00:44:25,595 --> 00:44:29,155
We're trying to find a resilient, drought tolerant lawn turf

663
00:44:29,155 --> 00:44:32,235
that would be used within that space itself. Like Bermuda.

664
00:44:32,235 --> 00:44:34,475
Is that kind of your thoughts or something like that?

665
00:44:34,475 --> 00:44:37,675
It would. Be a variant that's actually better suited for

666
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:41,682
the climate, specifically in Corona. And so. There are special

667
00:44:41,682 --> 00:44:45,255
blends that we would be working with local. Basically local

668
00:44:45,255 --> 00:44:47,855
growers to understand what that is. But yes, it'd basically

669
00:44:47,855 --> 00:44:50,895
be a type. Of Bermuda grass. And the thought process

670
00:44:50,895 --> 00:44:53,455
is it's a place where citizens can go and hang

671
00:44:53,455 --> 00:44:57,045
out. And not be in six inch deep grass, but

672
00:44:57,045 --> 00:45:00,859
more, okay? A traditional lawn that you would picnic on

673
00:45:00,859 --> 00:45:03,739
and play games and things like that. Okay, that's. Why

674
00:45:03,739 --> 00:45:05,579
I want to check out. Thank you very much. Thank

675
00:45:05,579 --> 00:45:11,467
you. Mayor. Mayor. Speak. Thank you. Can you go to

676
00:45:11,467 --> 00:45:15,981
slide number 28 or 29, one of the two. My

677
00:45:15,981 --> 00:45:18,583
question, there was. There seems to be a lot of

678
00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:24,207
places for people to hide. And. I didn't know if.

679
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,520
This is just a representation, or is it going to

680
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,153
look exactly like this? So you're talking specifically about the

681
00:45:31,153 --> 00:45:35,848
playground? Yes. So this is the concept of what it's

682
00:45:35,848 --> 00:45:37,408
going to look like. The structures are going to be

683
00:45:37,408 --> 00:45:41,128
very similar to this in one of the earlier renderings

684
00:45:41,128 --> 00:45:44,768
or renditions of this we had the slats closer together

685
00:45:44,768 --> 00:45:48,208
where it was very easy to hide. We purposely separated

686
00:45:48,208 --> 00:45:51,128
those so you have that visibility, that sightline right through

687
00:45:51,128 --> 00:45:54,006
the structure. So that is something that we wanted to

688
00:45:54,006 --> 00:45:56,606
make sure we addressed in the development of the playground.

689
00:45:56,606 --> 00:45:58,446
That you have the ability to see through. And we

690
00:45:58,446 --> 00:46:02,372
did separate those slats. In the actual playground structure to

691
00:46:02,372 --> 00:46:05,332
have that ability. Great. And then my last question was

692
00:46:05,332 --> 00:46:08,772
on the specimen trees. Thank you for mentioning the Morton

693
00:46:08,772 --> 00:46:12,132
Bay figuratives. I think it actually is probably the top

694
00:46:12,132 --> 00:46:15,212
five largest Morton Bay figs in the state, but I

695
00:46:15,212 --> 00:46:18,529
think Santa Barbara has the record. And we're not much

696
00:46:18,529 --> 00:46:21,860
smaller. I just wanted to verify, and I think I

697
00:46:21,860 --> 00:46:25,715
saw. A green spear in the right place. That bunya

698
00:46:25,715 --> 00:46:28,795
bunya tree. Okay. All right. Perfect. That. Was the other

699
00:46:28,795 --> 00:46:32,154
thing I was worried about. I don't have any other

700
00:46:32,154 --> 00:46:35,737
questions. About the design. That's it. Thank you. Bring it

701
00:46:35,737 --> 00:46:38,377
back for comments. Okay, thank you. We're going. To open

702
00:46:38,377 --> 00:46:43,300
it up to public comments and questions. Ms. Edwards, are

703
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:45,900
there speaker cards from the public for this presentation? Mayor

704
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,460
yes, we have one speaker. Card for this item. Okay,

705
00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:52,282
please come on down. And if you are choosing to

706
00:46:52,282 --> 00:46:55,202
speak and haven't turned in your card, please do so.

707
00:46:55,202 --> 00:46:59,192
On this item. Thank you. Good evening. Joe Morgan. 206

708
00:46:59,192 --> 00:47:02,072
three rand. It's fascinating to hear Ms. Finch talk about

709
00:47:02,072 --> 00:47:04,832
what? The community wants because it was a pretty exhaustive

710
00:47:04,832 --> 00:47:09,724
planning process and community survey. And a lot of work

711
00:47:09,724 --> 00:47:13,132
done over the years. To decide what to do with

712
00:47:13,132 --> 00:47:16,332
the city park. And then promptly, that plan was tossed

713
00:47:16,332 --> 00:47:19,453
out. And it's not really what the community wants, it's

714
00:47:19,453 --> 00:47:22,453
what the council wants. So this is the reason why

715
00:47:22,453 --> 00:47:25,053
we can't have a real downtown. Because you're. Spending all

716
00:47:25,053 --> 00:47:27,013
the money to build another civic center down at the

717
00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:30,712
park. This is the reason why. You're having to flip

718
00:47:30,712 --> 00:47:32,512
all of that stuff to make another metro at Main

719
00:47:32,512 --> 00:47:36,164
Street. If you thought this was such a great idea

720
00:47:36,164 --> 00:47:39,164
and such a beautiful community center and really valuable. You

721
00:47:39,164 --> 00:47:42,164
could put it in an area that would attract investment.

722
00:47:42,164 --> 00:47:43,924
You could put it in a place that would attract

723
00:47:43,924 --> 00:47:46,524
people to come to town. But you're not doing that.

724
00:47:46,524 --> 00:47:50,660
You're. Just building apartment and another strip mall. And you're

725
00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:55,780
also burdening the neighbors. You're taking away a beautiful canopy.

726
00:47:55,780 --> 00:48:00,489
You're basically paving most of the park. So this is

727
00:48:00,489 --> 00:48:03,889
why we lost, like, the two most qualified parks commissioners

728
00:48:03,889 --> 00:48:08,929
we had, because they saw just exactly how ignorant and

729
00:48:08,929 --> 00:48:11,769
how willing you were to just throw out community needs.

730
00:48:13,242 --> 00:48:15,522
To do this plan. So this is going to saddle

731
00:48:15,522 --> 00:48:18,907
the city? With millions and millions of dollars of annual

732
00:48:18,907 --> 00:48:22,787
bond debt upkeep. And it's really not going to be

733
00:48:22,787 --> 00:48:25,827
much different, except just larger than Circle city center. To

734
00:48:25,827 --> 00:48:28,347
your point about the warming kitchen. That's what Circle city

735
00:48:28,347 --> 00:48:33,222
center has. It wasn't deemed. Sufficient there. Probably not going

736
00:48:33,222 --> 00:48:37,963
to be deemed sufficient here. So. You're just trading up

737
00:48:37,963 --> 00:48:41,660
for a larger model that really has. A pretty scant

738
00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:45,519
chance of success. We do need an aquatic center. We've

739
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:47,799
needed one. We needed the city to keep up. The

740
00:48:47,799 --> 00:48:50,879
one that we had, but you guys abandoned that, much

741
00:48:50,879 --> 00:48:53,559
like you abandoned the Corona mall, so. As an excuse

742
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:56,639
to basically build something shiny and new. This is going

743
00:48:56,639 --> 00:49:00,186
to cost field space. This is going to cost. A

744
00:49:00,186 --> 00:49:03,843
park that's used by the neighbors. And it really had

745
00:49:03,843 --> 00:49:06,730
no real benefit to the neighbors. There's going to be

746
00:49:06,730 --> 00:49:09,284
more congestion if it works. It's going to be just

747
00:49:09,284 --> 00:49:12,924
another financial burden on the city if it doesn't. Work

748
00:49:12,924 --> 00:49:15,564
and there's really not going to be much return in

749
00:49:15,564 --> 00:49:18,884
terms of like they talk. About the turn on the

750
00:49:18,884 --> 00:49:21,898
money. There's not going to be return on this investment

751
00:49:21,898 --> 00:49:25,018
in terms of economic development, you can put it downtown.

752
00:49:25,018 --> 00:49:26,778
If you thought it was really cool, if you thought

753
00:49:26,778 --> 00:49:29,378
it was really worthwhile. But you just want to build

754
00:49:29,378 --> 00:49:31,698
something new and easy because you have the land. There's

755
00:49:31,698 --> 00:49:35,523
not really. Burdened with some of the surplus Land act

756
00:49:35,523 --> 00:49:38,923
stuff that you've burdened that's. Chronomal with. And you think

757
00:49:38,923 --> 00:49:41,803
you got the best parks guy in the world? So

758
00:49:41,803 --> 00:49:44,563
that's why it's going to fail. Thank you. Thank you.

759
00:49:44,563 --> 00:49:48,394
Are there any other speakers on this agenda item. Come

760
00:49:48,394 --> 00:49:54,639
on up. Please state your name. Thank you. Hello. Good

761
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:58,439
evening, council. My name is Adrian Arrows, owner of FC

762
00:49:58,439 --> 00:50:03,799
Riverside county. I've been a longtime resident here in this

763
00:50:03,799 --> 00:50:11,691
community. Longtime server. Of soccer services. All the way from

764
00:50:11,691 --> 00:50:15,451
students of age two all the way to adults. What

765
00:50:15,451 --> 00:50:18,213
brings me here today? Let me tell you, for the

766
00:50:18,213 --> 00:50:22,133
longest have been attempting to utilize public field spaces. I'm

767
00:50:22,133 --> 00:50:26,765
telling you since age 17. My story started at El

768
00:50:26,765 --> 00:50:29,285
Cerrito Sports park because I am the resident of El

769
00:50:29,285 --> 00:50:35,054
Serrito and even during those early. Age. Mr. R's, are

770
00:50:35,054 --> 00:50:38,106
you going to speak on this item? It cannot pertain

771
00:50:38,106 --> 00:50:40,986
to this one. Absolutely. And so, even at that early

772
00:50:40,986 --> 00:50:44,001
age, I was denied field access. I had about a

773
00:50:44,001 --> 00:50:46,948
group of 80 students. And I was not allowed to

774
00:50:46,948 --> 00:50:50,248
use the field. We even had the police called on

775
00:50:50,248 --> 00:50:54,448
us and escorted from Al Serrito Sports park. So for

776
00:50:54,448 --> 00:50:57,726
the next few months. We spent going from park to

777
00:50:57,726 --> 00:51:02,415
park and experiencing the same thing. This has continued on

778
00:51:02,415 --> 00:51:06,175
to today, where we have cronyism, where the field space

779
00:51:06,175 --> 00:51:09,375
is allocated. To a lot of your friends, right, Mr.

780
00:51:09,375 --> 00:51:11,895
Harris? This is about the city park. We do have.

781
00:51:11,895 --> 00:51:15,411
A public comment. I promise you that this does pertain

782
00:51:15,411 --> 00:51:20,710
to. Yes, I am telling you that. Your field allocation

783
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:24,430
process and really, your allocation process as a whole has

784
00:51:24,430 --> 00:51:29,870
been corruptedly managed. We've brought these issues to director Donna

785
00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:33,190
Finch or community services director Donna Finch. And by the

786
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:36,190
way she's ignored. And many of the council members that

787
00:51:36,190 --> 00:51:39,633
are here today, I've also brought this forward to. You

788
00:51:39,633 --> 00:51:43,493
and no response. So, may I see us? How does

789
00:51:43,493 --> 00:51:47,991
this pertain to this item? Doesn't matter what you build,

790
00:51:47,991 --> 00:51:52,596
you're going to continue on. The same. Culture that you've

791
00:51:52,596 --> 00:51:57,113
had here for many years, for decades. You will continue

792
00:51:57,113 --> 00:52:00,833
to allocate this field space or any public space, anything

793
00:52:00,833 --> 00:52:04,273
else that you build to your friends. So why should

794
00:52:04,273 --> 00:52:08,789
any other resident be so excited about this? I believe

795
00:52:08,789 --> 00:52:12,798
that you need to open. A more transparent process. So

796
00:52:12,798 --> 00:52:16,422
just going back to this item here. I am asking

797
00:52:16,422 --> 00:52:20,062
in particular for you to be more open to particular

798
00:52:20,062 --> 00:52:25,986
parks, specifically El cereto. Sports park. Now I will. Save

799
00:52:25,986 --> 00:52:27,786
my words. Let me tell you, I got a lot

800
00:52:27,786 --> 00:52:32,048
of words here. But mayor casillas. I just want to

801
00:52:32,048 --> 00:52:36,528
provide insight into how public space here is allocated. I've

802
00:52:36,528 --> 00:52:39,768
even spoken with city manager Jacob Ellis, and I've sent

803
00:52:39,768 --> 00:52:42,488
emails and have had response from some of you up

804
00:52:42,488 --> 00:52:47,378
here. So I'm hoping that as you do build more

805
00:52:47,378 --> 00:52:51,978
public resources that you can allocate these to the residents

806
00:52:51,978 --> 00:52:55,458
equitably and not stick to cronyism or allocate it to

807
00:52:55,458 --> 00:52:58,018
the brands of politicians. Thank you. Thank you very much.

808
00:52:58,018 --> 00:53:01,618
Mr. Arrows are there. Any other speakers speaking on the

809
00:53:01,618 --> 00:53:06,059
item of the city park project? Design. I just want

810
00:53:06,059 --> 00:53:09,299
to remind folks that there is always a section in

811
00:53:09,299 --> 00:53:12,779
our agenda reserve from communications. From the public, and that

812
00:53:12,779 --> 00:53:14,979
can be on anything you want to talk about. But

813
00:53:14,979 --> 00:53:17,299
when you come and speak on an agenda item, please.

814
00:53:17,299 --> 00:53:21,650
Keep it pertaining to that agenda item, please. I'm going

815
00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:26,998
to talk about the park. Thank you. Don Fuller. I'm

816
00:53:26,998 --> 00:53:31,126
resident in town. This is a little thing. I reminded

817
00:53:31,126 --> 00:53:33,526
one of the James Bond movies. He's getting ready to

818
00:53:33,526 --> 00:53:38,006
go out for dinner. And gambling with the lady lead.

819
00:53:38,006 --> 00:53:43,006
And she has bought him a dinner jacket. And he's

820
00:53:43,006 --> 00:53:45,006
a little puzzled by this. And her comment is there

821
00:53:45,006 --> 00:53:49,166
are dinner jackets and there are dinner jackets. And so

822
00:53:49,166 --> 00:53:51,806
I'm reminded of that when the persons are talking about

823
00:53:51,806 --> 00:53:54,566
the trees, and I'm glad to hear that. They're going

824
00:53:54,566 --> 00:53:59,104
to keep the old trees. But they also said they're

825
00:53:59,104 --> 00:54:02,446
going to plant a bunch of new trees. There are

826
00:54:02,446 --> 00:54:05,726
trees and there are trees it gets hot here in

827
00:54:05,726 --> 00:54:08,326
the summertime we all know that people like to go

828
00:54:08,326 --> 00:54:11,166
to the park, put a blanket out on the grass,

829
00:54:11,166 --> 00:54:14,526
have a picnic. With the kids, maybe toss a frisbee

830
00:54:14,526 --> 00:54:18,166
around. And it's important to have some. Shade. So if

831
00:54:18,166 --> 00:54:21,446
those trees that they're going to plant are about three

832
00:54:21,446 --> 00:54:24,090
or 4ft. Tall, we're going to be 20 years before

833
00:54:24,090 --> 00:54:27,410
you get any shade, so I would just. Like to

834
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:30,010
put in a reminder that I would like to see

835
00:54:30,010 --> 00:54:32,690
these trees be big enough that we don't have to

836
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:38,342
wait until I'm 107. And I plan to make it.

837
00:54:40,367 --> 00:54:43,407
Before we get any of those trees cranking out any

838
00:54:43,407 --> 00:54:49,246
shade. So they said trees, but trees. Is a big,

839
00:54:49,246 --> 00:54:51,806
broad area, so I would just like to say they

840
00:54:51,806 --> 00:54:55,246
ought to be decent sized. Trees. And if you want

841
00:54:55,246 --> 00:54:57,206
to put me in charge of that committee for the

842
00:54:57,206 --> 00:55:00,206
size of trees. I'll take that on. Thank you very

843
00:55:00,206 --> 00:55:04,766
much. Thank you, Mr. Fuller. Any other speakers. And don't

844
00:55:04,766 --> 00:55:06,846
forget to turn in your card to the city clerk.

845
00:55:06,846 --> 00:55:12,467
Any other speakers on item 5.3. Okay, saying none. Moving

846
00:55:12,467 --> 00:55:15,467
on. Bringing it back to the council, opening it up

847
00:55:15,467 --> 00:55:19,667
to my colleagues for before I do, Ms. Finch, can

848
00:55:19,667 --> 00:55:24,227
you or the Rios team please speak to the question

849
00:55:24,227 --> 00:55:27,187
about tree? Types I know Rios had shared. The Rios

850
00:55:27,187 --> 00:55:31,274
team had shared about planting mature trees, but. Can you

851
00:55:31,274 --> 00:55:33,754
dive into that? Yes. So I do have the size

852
00:55:33,754 --> 00:55:35,314
of the trees we are going. To be planning a

853
00:55:35,314 --> 00:55:38,594
total of 205 new trees, in addition to the trees

854
00:55:38,594 --> 00:55:39,954
that are going to remain in the trees that are

855
00:55:39,954 --> 00:55:44,474
going to be relocated within the park of those 205

856
00:55:44,474 --> 00:55:47,154
192 of them are going to be 48 inch box

857
00:55:47,154 --> 00:55:49,874
trees and then 13 are going to be 72 inch.

858
00:55:49,874 --> 00:55:53,114
Box tre. Trees. I don't know if anybody from Rios

859
00:55:53,114 --> 00:55:55,394
can provide insight. I'm not sure. The actual height of

860
00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:57,794
those when they're planted, but I'll turn it over to

861
00:55:57,794 --> 00:56:02,738
robin to give some more details. Thank you. So we,

862
00:56:02,738 --> 00:56:05,778
in our plans currently are trying to allow for trees

863
00:56:05,778 --> 00:56:10,058
that will provide shade immediately upon installation because we understand

864
00:56:10,058 --> 00:56:12,458
that for trees to provide shade, they have to be

865
00:56:12,458 --> 00:56:14,978
tall enough to do that, and we ourselves want to

866
00:56:14,978 --> 00:56:17,498
advocate for more trees in general and to have that

867
00:56:17,498 --> 00:56:21,547
interaction. We have a variety of different specimens that we'll

868
00:56:21,547 --> 00:56:27,848
be planting within the project. Everything from. Mexican, Sycamore coast,

869
00:56:27,848 --> 00:56:31,741
live oaks. Australian willow. These are all trees that are

870
00:56:31,741 --> 00:56:33,821
well adapted to the heat and the climate within the

871
00:56:33,821 --> 00:56:39,134
area, if not native themselves. The 48 inch box trees,

872
00:56:39,134 --> 00:56:43,334
typically when you install are approximately like 15ft to 20ft

873
00:56:43,334 --> 00:56:45,854
tall. When you install them again, you kind of base

874
00:56:45,854 --> 00:56:49,694
it on the trunk size themselves. And then particularly around

875
00:56:49,694 --> 00:56:53,254
the crown itself. We're actually asking for 72 inch box

876
00:56:53,254 --> 00:56:58,481
trees. These trees are actually. Pretty large at installation. They

877
00:56:58,481 --> 00:57:03,453
are something close to 25ft tall. And you will feel

878
00:57:03,453 --> 00:57:09,085
the presence immediately upon. Installing, planting them. Okay, thank you

879
00:57:09,085 --> 00:57:15,049
so much. Okay, so coming back. The ask is. Remind

880
00:57:15,049 --> 00:57:17,529
us, Ms. Finch, the ask is just to receive the

881
00:57:17,529 --> 00:57:20,009
update on the final. Design. Thank you. Are there any

882
00:57:20,009 --> 00:57:24,383
final comments? Any final questions for my colleagues? No. Go

883
00:57:24,383 --> 00:57:26,583
ahead, Jim. I just want to thank Rios for the

884
00:57:26,583 --> 00:57:28,983
presentation, and I think this is going to be a

885
00:57:28,983 --> 00:57:31,583
success. And, Ms. French, you do a great job, so

886
00:57:31,583 --> 00:57:35,463
thank you, Councilor Richards. I want to mimic council member

887
00:57:35,463 --> 00:57:38,583
Steiner. I think this is an excellent project form certainly

888
00:57:38,583 --> 00:57:41,503
followed function. I believe there are going to be a

889
00:57:41,503 --> 00:57:44,977
lot, a lot of happy kids in this. New park,

890
00:57:44,977 --> 00:57:46,537
and I believe there's going to be a lot of

891
00:57:46,537 --> 00:57:51,364
happy citizens when it's built. Congratulations, all of you. Ditto.

892
00:57:51,364 --> 00:57:55,924
I am thrilled that we are finally reinvesting in this

893
00:57:55,924 --> 00:58:00,084
community, in this part. Of our town. And getting back

894
00:58:00,084 --> 00:58:05,551
an aquatic center, getting back a pool. And. Really paying

895
00:58:05,551 --> 00:58:09,397
attention. To what the community has told us that they

896
00:58:09,397 --> 00:58:13,486
want to see and. Giving that opportunity and not neglecting

897
00:58:13,486 --> 00:58:18,132
it right for fear. And so I'm excited. I'm really

898
00:58:18,132 --> 00:58:21,052
excited about this project. I'm glad. That we're close to

899
00:58:21,052 --> 00:58:25,825
final design, and I'm looking forward. To starting construction, ideally

900
00:58:25,825 --> 00:58:27,665
in the summer of this year. So thank you, Ms.

901
00:58:27,665 --> 00:58:33,033
Finch. We appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. So this is

902
00:58:33,033 --> 00:58:36,513
the part we're moving on to. Item six. Consent calendar.

903
00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,433
Oh, no, just. Joking. Not after this. After the consent

904
00:58:38,433 --> 00:58:40,873
calendars, when we have communication from the public. So consent.

905
00:58:40,873 --> 00:58:43,393
Calendar. All items listed on the consent calendar are considered

906
00:58:43,393 --> 00:58:47,153
to be routine matters. Status reports or documents covering previous

907
00:58:47,153 --> 00:58:50,553
city council action. The item listed on the consent calendar

908
00:58:50,553 --> 00:58:53,581
may be enacted in one motion. With a concurrence of

909
00:58:53,581 --> 00:58:56,341
the city council, a council member, or any person in

910
00:58:56,341 --> 00:58:59,141
attendance. May request that an item be removed for further

911
00:58:59,141 --> 00:59:02,061
consideration. Would my colleagues like to pull any items for

912
00:59:02,061 --> 00:59:05,641
discussion. Okay. Ms. Edwards, are there any speaker cards from

913
00:59:05,641 --> 00:59:08,401
the public? Mayor, we did not receive any speaker. Cards

914
00:59:08,401 --> 00:59:11,441
with a consent calendar. Okay, make the motion. Motion from

915
00:59:11,441 --> 00:59:17,059
councilman merchants. I'm sorry. What's the item? I actually do

916
00:59:17,059 --> 00:59:23,490
want to pull 6.565. Okay, so the motion. Council member

917
00:59:23,490 --> 00:59:28,986
richens everything but 6.5. Thank you. Second by council member.

918
00:59:31,402 --> 00:59:35,972
Speak, but. It's council member Steiner. Okay, everybody, vote, please.

919
00:59:37,549 --> 00:59:41,709
And the consent calendar passes unanimously. We're going to come

920
00:59:41,709 --> 00:59:47,029
back to item 6.5. Council member derio, floor is yours.

921
00:59:47,029 --> 00:59:55,536
Thank you, mayor. I don't have any questions. But. I

922
00:59:55,536 --> 00:59:57,616
wanted to give Chief Young an opportunity to kind of

923
00:59:57,616 --> 01:00:03,396
highlight this. For those that aren't in the weeds with

924
01:00:03,396 --> 01:00:08,796
purchasing fire equipment. It's one of the longest lead times

925
01:00:08,796 --> 01:00:14,956
in all of lead times. And. I think we ordered

926
01:00:14,956 --> 01:00:17,276
a fire truck in 1979. I think we just got

927
01:00:17,276 --> 01:00:19,036
delivery of it last. Week. Is that about right, chief?

928
01:00:20,812 --> 01:00:21,972
Fire trucks take a very long time to make, and

929
01:00:21,972 --> 01:00:25,092
it's for a litany of reasons. But one of the

930
01:00:25,092 --> 01:00:29,815
things that. I'm constantly excited about is the way that

931
01:00:29,815 --> 01:00:31,735
all of our city leads and all of our city

932
01:00:31,735 --> 01:00:35,487
departments are constantly looking for ways. To shorten lead times.

933
01:00:37,613 --> 01:00:39,613
To stretch the dollar to do a lot of different

934
01:00:39,613 --> 01:00:44,361
things. And this is one of those. Opportunities in chief.

935
01:00:44,361 --> 01:00:47,201
I'd like for you just to. You don't need to

936
01:00:47,201 --> 01:00:50,041
wax. Poetic. You don't need to give a dissertation, but

937
01:00:50,041 --> 01:00:51,921
just kind of highlight why this is. Kind of a

938
01:00:51,921 --> 01:00:56,912
cool thing. Thank you for the opportunity. One of the

939
01:00:56,912 --> 01:01:00,822
biggest. Positives of this is I perceive this as a

940
01:01:00,822 --> 01:01:06,895
long overdue disruption to the industry. There's significant work happening

941
01:01:06,895 --> 01:01:09,775
at the federal level to question the monopolies that are

942
01:01:09,775 --> 01:01:12,535
taking place in the fire service industry. Excuse me, fire

943
01:01:12,535 --> 01:01:16,695
apparatus industry. And we've been waiting. For something to create

944
01:01:16,695 --> 01:01:21,262
this opportunity for us to go in another direction. Obviously,

945
01:01:21,262 --> 01:01:24,502
with the recently approved purchase of a new apparatus at

946
01:01:24,502 --> 01:01:29,664
approximately $1.5 million, This is something that is new to

947
01:01:29,664 --> 01:01:32,824
the industry. It's not new to automotive. Right. I mean,

948
01:01:32,824 --> 01:01:35,624
people that collect classic cars are used to this sort

949
01:01:35,624 --> 01:01:39,504
of premise, but there was really no large organizations that

950
01:01:39,504 --> 01:01:43,744
were participating in this. So once we started seeking other

951
01:01:43,744 --> 01:01:47,400
options and this came across, As one of those options.

952
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680
We quickly jumped on it, and we really hope that

953
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,080
this will be a significant positive impact as we move

954
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:57,080
into the future. Especially to address your comment four year

955
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,000
lead times for some of our large apparatus. That's unsustainable

956
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,280
and ridiculous as well. As the price points. So we're

957
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,510
looking at getting between. Ten and 15 years additional service

958
01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:12,508
life out of an apparatus for half the price. So

959
01:02:12,508 --> 01:02:16,108
really excited for this. There is proof of concept. Some

960
01:02:16,108 --> 01:02:19,148
other agencies have led the way before. Us and we

961
01:02:19,148 --> 01:02:22,303
let them be. The first tow in the water, if

962
01:02:22,303 --> 01:02:26,570
you will, and we're really excited for this. Thanks, chief.

963
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:31,410
Mayor. With that, I'd like to motion to approve this.

964
01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:33,210
You got it, Ms. Edwards. There weren't any speaker cards

965
01:02:33,210 --> 01:02:35,050
on this item. We do not have any speaker cards.

966
01:02:35,050 --> 01:02:36,610
For this item, then we've got a motion on the

967
01:02:36,610 --> 01:02:39,290
floor. Is there a second? 2nd by council member Steiner.

968
01:02:39,290 --> 01:02:49,189
Let's take a vote. Okay, that item

969
01:02:49,189 --> 01:02:54,149
passes unanimously. Thanks for saving us some good dollars. We

970
01:02:54,149 --> 01:02:57,509
appreciate it. Moving on to item seven. Communications from the

971
01:02:57,509 --> 01:03:02,990
public. Persons wishing to address the city council are requested

972
01:03:02,990 --> 01:03:06,200
to state their name. And city of residence. For the

973
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,264
record, you don't have to give your address. This portion

974
01:03:09,264 --> 01:03:12,104
of the agenda is intended for general public comment only,

975
01:03:12,104 --> 01:03:15,224
which means it is limited to items within the subject

976
01:03:15,224 --> 01:03:18,104
matter jurisdiction of the city council that are not listed

977
01:03:18,104 --> 01:03:20,984
on the agenda, please. Note that state law prohibits the

978
01:03:20,984 --> 01:03:23,864
city council from discussing or taking action on items not

979
01:03:23,864 --> 01:03:26,584
listed on the agenda. The city council will appreciate your

980
01:03:26,584 --> 01:03:30,088
cooperation in keeping your comments. Brief. Please observe a three

981
01:03:30,088 --> 01:03:33,048
minute limit for communications. Ms. Edwards, are there any speaker

982
01:03:33,048 --> 01:03:35,368
cards from the public. Mayor. Yes, we have five speaker

983
01:03:35,368 --> 01:03:38,088
cards for communication from the public. Thank you very much.

984
01:03:38,088 --> 01:03:39,848
Okay. Let's come on up. Whoever wants to be first.

985
01:03:41,847 --> 01:03:51,365
Good evening. Chris McCoy, district three. Unfortunately, I am

986
01:03:51,365 --> 01:03:55,344
here about the last meeting because. I was ill and

987
01:03:55,344 --> 01:03:57,584
not able to attend. I want to talk about the

988
01:03:57,584 --> 01:04:01,052
North Mall. And I just want to give some thoughts

989
01:04:01,052 --> 01:04:04,739
on that. And I tried very hard to not be

990
01:04:04,739 --> 01:04:08,259
upset and to not be negative and think of a

991
01:04:08,259 --> 01:04:11,779
good way of phrasing this and putting this out there.

992
01:04:11,779 --> 01:04:15,179
I feel very much like we've gone through this kabuki

993
01:04:15,179 --> 01:04:19,186
dance to get to 300. We are building 300 units

994
01:04:19,186 --> 01:04:23,746
there. There's no way around it. I would have expected

995
01:04:23,746 --> 01:04:26,186
a three two vote based on what I've heard from

996
01:04:26,186 --> 01:04:28,946
all of you up there. As far as I don't

997
01:04:28,946 --> 01:04:30,666
want to go over 200 or I don't. Want to

998
01:04:30,666 --> 01:04:32,786
go over 150 or. I think that's too much for

999
01:04:32,786 --> 01:04:37,351
that corner. I think the sight lines are horrible as

1000
01:04:37,351 --> 01:04:39,791
far as the height of it goes, and this goes.

1001
01:04:39,791 --> 01:04:41,391
All the way back to five years ago when I

1002
01:04:41,391 --> 01:04:43,631
was standing up here talking about the fact that that

1003
01:04:43,631 --> 01:04:46,551
street which was built in the 1900, at the turn

1004
01:04:46,551 --> 01:04:50,591
of the century was built for carts and horses, and

1005
01:04:50,591 --> 01:04:53,191
it's not wide enough to handle four stories running the

1006
01:04:53,191 --> 01:04:56,056
edge and. I hear? Oh, we're going to do a

1007
01:04:56,056 --> 01:05:00,729
setback, but a setback doesn't. Widen the street. And we're

1008
01:05:00,729 --> 01:05:03,098
still going to have the same problem. Of a very

1009
01:05:03,098 --> 01:05:06,178
crowded street, and I don't know how to fix that

1010
01:05:06,178 --> 01:05:11,197
with 300 units. And I'm terrified. Not of that, but

1011
01:05:11,197 --> 01:05:13,957
what I heard staff talking to you about at the

1012
01:05:13,957 --> 01:05:15,957
end of that meeting because I did watch the whole

1013
01:05:15,957 --> 01:05:18,277
thing from home, and it was, well. We're eventually going

1014
01:05:18,277 --> 01:05:20,517
to get a developer in, and then that developer is

1015
01:05:20,517 --> 01:05:22,637
going to say, well, I need to do this or

1016
01:05:22,637 --> 01:05:24,837
I need to do that, and we'll have a final

1017
01:05:24,837 --> 01:05:28,931
negotiation. So I'm going to challenge you all now because

1018
01:05:28,931 --> 01:05:32,457
I know your sentiments on this and I know. I've

1019
01:05:32,457 --> 01:05:34,857
communicated with most of you about this. About this being

1020
01:05:34,857 --> 01:05:37,457
200 units, we're not going to get that. We're going

1021
01:05:37,457 --> 01:05:40,337
to have to take 300 because of the surplus. Land

1022
01:05:40,337 --> 01:05:43,257
act, but I'm going to challenge you to hold that

1023
01:05:43,257 --> 01:05:46,457
line. I'm going to challenge you to hold the line

1024
01:05:46,457 --> 01:05:52,774
as far as keeping. The facades historic because. The developer

1025
01:05:52,774 --> 01:05:56,214
is going to come in and staff has no compunctions

1026
01:05:56,214 --> 01:05:59,254
about pushing this. To 400 or 500 and telling you

1027
01:05:59,254 --> 01:06:01,414
guys, oh, well, we can't find a developer that'll do

1028
01:06:01,414 --> 01:06:05,664
this, and that's bullshit. We can find a developer that'll

1029
01:06:05,664 --> 01:06:08,024
do this at 300, so I'm going to ask you

1030
01:06:08,024 --> 01:06:11,224
to hold the line at 300 because that street cannot

1031
01:06:11,224 --> 01:06:14,224
take any more height. And if you go from 300

1032
01:06:14,224 --> 01:06:17,064
to 400 or 500. Now we're at five stories. Now

1033
01:06:17,064 --> 01:06:20,904
we're. At six stories, and that ruins this whole project

1034
01:06:20,904 --> 01:06:23,024
that you want to do, and I understand. You guys

1035
01:06:23,024 --> 01:06:25,260
want to get something done? And I am all for

1036
01:06:25,260 --> 01:06:28,180
it. I live in district three, but you have to

1037
01:06:28,180 --> 01:06:32,340
get it done. Right. And the two things left that

1038
01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:35,660
cannot be compromised on because we've compromised for five. Years

1039
01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:38,233
to get this to this point. Is the height of

1040
01:06:38,233 --> 01:06:42,273
this thing, the number of units and the facade. If

1041
01:06:42,273 --> 01:06:45,153
you're not going to do that. To Tom's point, it's

1042
01:06:45,153 --> 01:06:47,033
just going to be colorful boxes. And it's going to

1043
01:06:47,033 --> 01:06:49,593
look like any other four over one or five over

1044
01:06:49,593 --> 01:06:52,553
one or six over one. So I'm challenging you to

1045
01:06:52,553 --> 01:06:55,713
hold the line where it is right now. Thank you.

1046
01:06:55,713 --> 01:07:02,730
Thank you. Next up. Good evening. My name is Kathy

1047
01:07:02,730 --> 01:07:12,102
Armstrong. I'm a local manufacturer here in Corona. Also the

1048
01:07:12,102 --> 01:07:16,142
board chair of Corona Chamber of commerce. This year, I

1049
01:07:16,142 --> 01:07:21,022
look forward to working together, supporting our businesses as well

1050
01:07:21,022 --> 01:07:24,582
as our community. Thank you. Thank you, Kathy. Thanks for

1051
01:07:24,582 --> 01:07:31,154
introducing yourself. All right, next up. Richard Rogers. I live

1052
01:07:31,154 --> 01:07:39,619
in Corona. I'm not restless. I just can't speak very

1053
01:07:39,619 --> 01:07:42,379
clearly. That's okay. Maybe. If you could just push the

1054
01:07:42,379 --> 01:07:45,619
mic a little closer to your okay, that would probably

1055
01:07:45,619 --> 01:07:52,838
help. I'm going to give you some examples. About? Trees.

1056
01:07:55,605 --> 01:08:02,324
On Greenbrier. And meadow view court. I've done everything I

1057
01:08:02,324 --> 01:08:07,194
can. And somebody has got to step up and say,

1058
01:08:07,194 --> 01:08:12,582
okay, take the trees down. There were 25 of these.

1059
01:08:12,582 --> 01:08:21,195
Humongous, humongous. Pine trees. And. There's only four left.

1060
01:08:22,628 --> 01:08:31,035
Five left. And they have caused so much. Destruction. And

1061
01:08:31,035 --> 01:08:38,653
the people who live on 1007 Medaview Court. Has had

1062
01:08:38,653 --> 01:08:45,260
a serious problem. They did all the paperwork. And.

1063
01:08:49,608 --> 01:08:54,434
The city council or the city attorney says. Get your

1064
01:08:54,434 --> 01:09:04,213
homeowners. Insurance. In homeowners, says no. That's strictly

1065
01:09:04,213 --> 01:09:11,138
a city problem. And the city attorney. Said. Well, you're

1066
01:09:11,138 --> 01:09:15,914
going to have to get a lawyer. Fine. And the

1067
01:09:15,914 --> 01:09:19,863
same thing happened. At 1050 men of you court.

1068
01:09:27,096 --> 01:09:32,950
Is just tearing up. The driveway. It has cracked the

1069
01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:39,970
foundation of the house. And again. The city attorney says,

1070
01:09:39,970 --> 01:09:43,285
well, you have to get a lawyer. And getting back

1071
01:09:43,285 --> 01:09:50,361
to ten. Seven. This tree. Has really destroyed their driveway.

1072
01:09:52,771 --> 01:09:55,291
The garage, and now there's a tree coming up into

1073
01:09:55,291 --> 01:10:00,730
their kitchen floor. And then the tree on 1038.

1074
01:10:05,497 --> 01:10:09,377
Outstanding. The front yard with his neighbor. Oh, boy. I've

1075
01:10:09,377 --> 01:10:16,833
done shit. You can always don't. Email or call. And

1076
01:10:16,833 --> 01:10:23,485
we called the tree people. Okay. And they said, okay,

1077
01:10:23,485 --> 01:10:25,885
we'll send someone out. Well, this has been over a

1078
01:10:25,885 --> 01:10:30,193
year. And this tree is huge. The same one that

1079
01:10:30,193 --> 01:10:34,238
should be taken out anyway. The bottom line is, I

1080
01:10:34,238 --> 01:10:37,958
think that the tree people have more authority in this

1081
01:10:37,958 --> 01:10:42,873
city than. A department and if the chief of police.

1082
01:10:42,873 --> 01:10:45,513
Thank you, sir. There is a process I think we

1083
01:10:45,513 --> 01:10:47,273
are connected with you, and I think that folks are

1084
01:10:47,273 --> 01:10:48,873
going to be out there trimming the trees next week.

1085
01:10:50,793 --> 01:10:52,913
But who can I get him in contact with? Jacob?

1086
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:57,460
If he leaves his information, we'll make staff. Make sure

1087
01:10:57,460 --> 01:11:01,512
that staff contact you and they can explain. What's happening?

1088
01:11:01,512 --> 01:11:04,312
Going process on the tree valuation. I think we're getting

1089
01:11:04,312 --> 01:11:05,872
in touch. With you, but we'll make sure that they

1090
01:11:05,872 --> 01:11:07,512
chat with you again. See if you have any other

1091
01:11:07,512 --> 01:11:11,172
questions? Can you connect here with Brett? Actually, get your

1092
01:11:11,172 --> 01:11:13,812
contact information right here. This gentleman right behind you. To

1093
01:11:13,812 --> 01:11:18,120
your left. Okay, thanks. All right, next up.

1094
01:11:26,127 --> 01:11:30,007
Hello. Good evening. I am here as a representative for

1095
01:11:30,007 --> 01:11:33,007
many residents. Some that are here today, some that are

1096
01:11:33,007 --> 01:11:38,731
back at home, many. Who are a little bit shy,

1097
01:11:38,731 --> 01:11:41,651
a little bit scared to talk, right? But that's why

1098
01:11:41,651 --> 01:11:45,571
we do have leaders right to represent and voices, and

1099
01:11:45,571 --> 01:11:50,382
I'm here today. To demand ice out of Corona. Today

1100
01:11:50,382 --> 01:11:54,222
is the day that we stand up against racism, bigotry.

1101
01:11:54,222 --> 01:11:57,342
And hatred. Today is a day that we as a

1102
01:11:57,342 --> 01:12:01,862
community stand against the government overreach. That we stop looking

1103
01:12:01,862 --> 01:12:05,982
at the color of our skin, religion or ethnicity, that

1104
01:12:05,982 --> 01:12:09,968
any man or. Women can walk in Corona and any

1105
01:12:09,968 --> 01:12:14,300
city with confidence and dignity. That a person of color

1106
01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:19,040
can walk without needing documentation. The day a piece is

1107
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,440
over for many residents. The Trump administration has militarized the

1108
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:28,240
streets. Of America. Children are being traumatized by ISIS ruthless

1109
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:33,946
tactics. Citizens are being taken from their homes. Police officers

1110
01:12:33,946 --> 01:12:39,967
themselves. Are being targeted outside of their working hours. And

1111
01:12:39,967 --> 01:12:44,833
now. They are shooting their own people. Us. A soccer

1112
01:12:44,833 --> 01:12:49,246
mom. ReNee Good was a victim of government. Of the

1113
01:12:49,246 --> 01:12:52,686
government's violent tactics that have no limits. They shot her

1114
01:12:52,686 --> 01:12:57,478
in the face. In the face. That's why I'm here

1115
01:12:57,478 --> 01:13:04,059
today. Demanding a resolution. I am demanding for a resolution

1116
01:13:04,059 --> 01:13:09,657
that's similar to Riversides transparency resolution in Harupa's. Valleys. Number

1117
01:13:09,657 --> 01:13:15,957
2026. Seven. We must. Act. On Christmas Day, several members

1118
01:13:15,957 --> 01:13:19,879
of our community were detained by Ice. What makes this

1119
01:13:19,879 --> 01:13:22,599
very concerning is that they use the same tactics that

1120
01:13:22,599 --> 01:13:25,679
they use on reg. Nay. Good. We could have had

1121
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:29,599
our own Renee. Good incident here in this city. Now

1122
01:13:29,599 --> 01:13:31,519
I know some. Of you might get a little upset

1123
01:13:31,519 --> 01:13:35,239
because three of you five endorse can calvert you. Are

1124
01:13:35,239 --> 01:13:39,021
pushing. For these policies. Now, of course, you are all

1125
01:13:39,021 --> 01:13:43,541
city government officials and your power rests within city policies.

1126
01:13:45,219 --> 01:13:47,976
But let this be no mistake. We see what you're

1127
01:13:47,976 --> 01:13:52,854
doing. We see who you are. Your facade, council member

1128
01:13:52,854 --> 01:13:55,974
Wespeak, making others feel like you care about the indigenous

1129
01:13:55,974 --> 01:13:58,774
people. If you cared about the indigenous community, you would

1130
01:13:58,774 --> 01:14:02,525
act on this resolution. Mayor Jackie Cassillas. I have nothing

1131
01:14:02,525 --> 01:14:05,964
but the highest respect for you. Join us. Jackie Cassillas,

1132
01:14:05,964 --> 01:14:09,364
mayor Jackie Cassillas. Join us. Your people take one of

1133
01:14:09,364 --> 01:14:12,204
our shirts. We have a shirt ready for you, and

1134
01:14:12,204 --> 01:14:14,764
we ask for all of you to adopt. This resolution.

1135
01:14:16,202 --> 01:14:22,966
Put your citizens. And not just the caucasian people, but

1136
01:14:22,966 --> 01:14:26,246
the people of color in mind here. We are not

1137
01:14:26,246 --> 01:14:29,606
going to walk in the streets like second class citizens

1138
01:14:29,606 --> 01:14:33,166
where we have to wear some sort of identifier. That

1139
01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:36,566
we are a citizen, while many of you get to

1140
01:14:36,566 --> 01:14:44,039
walk freely. I kindly. Thank you. Mr. Arrives. Thank you.

1141
01:14:48,017 --> 01:14:57,235
Next speaker. Welcome, sir. Can I get your name, too?

1142
01:14:57,235 --> 01:14:59,915
Yes. My name is Hanif Carter. Good evening. Good. Evening.

1143
01:14:59,915 --> 01:15:06,406
I don't miss out here in Corona. Awesome. I'll go

1144
01:15:06,406 --> 01:15:08,166
off on my speech. My name is Hanif Carter. I

1145
01:15:08,166 --> 01:15:10,606
do mission the city of Corona, a trustee of a

1146
01:15:10,606 --> 01:15:13,006
private family trust, and I am here today to raise

1147
01:15:13,006 --> 01:15:17,206
a serious issue affecting many residents, the lawful use of

1148
01:15:17,206 --> 01:15:22,886
negotiable instruments and the refusable refusal by financial institution institutions

1149
01:15:22,886 --> 01:15:28,601
to honor them under California. Commercial Code section 3104. A

1150
01:15:28,601 --> 01:15:31,961
negotiable instrument is a written, signed, unconditional promise to pay

1151
01:15:31,961 --> 01:15:36,161
a fixed amount of money. Promissory notes, draft and similar

1152
01:15:36,161 --> 01:15:39,601
instruments are not fringe ideas. They are the foundation of

1153
01:15:39,601 --> 01:15:44,545
commerce in this country. Banks operate every day using accounts

1154
01:15:44,545 --> 01:15:48,425
receivables and accounts payables, which are settled through credit, not

1155
01:15:48,425 --> 01:15:53,705
physical cash. Mortgages, car loans, municipal bonds and interbank settlements

1156
01:15:53,705 --> 01:15:58,623
all rely on negotiable instruments. This is not theory. It

1157
01:15:58,623 --> 01:16:02,623
is how financial systems function. Under California Commercial code, sections

1158
01:16:02,623 --> 01:16:05,743
35 one to 35 five. When a lawful instrument is

1159
01:16:05,743 --> 01:16:08,703
presented, a bank has a duty to either process it

1160
01:16:08,703 --> 01:16:11,903
or provide a lawful basis. For dishonor. Silence is not

1161
01:16:11,903 --> 01:16:16,663
compliance. Holding a percentment without credited or formally rejecting it.

1162
01:16:16,663 --> 01:16:20,898
Is not good faith. Federal law reinforces this twelve United

1163
01:16:20,898 --> 01:16:25,944
States Code section 411 and House Joint Resolution 192. Make

1164
01:16:25,944 --> 01:16:29,424
clear that obligations are discharged through lawful money and credit.

1165
01:16:29,424 --> 01:16:33,024
Every Federal Reserve note itself states its legal tender for

1166
01:16:33,024 --> 01:16:37,258
all debts, public and private. Credit is not separate from

1167
01:16:37,258 --> 01:16:42,210
money. It is how money functions in modern law. Additionally,

1168
01:16:42,210 --> 01:16:44,650
under California Commercial Code article four, banks act as a

1169
01:16:44,650 --> 01:16:48,530
collecting agents and fiduciaries. When instruments are deposited, they are

1170
01:16:48,530 --> 01:16:52,850
required to exercise ordinary care and good faith. Arbitrary refusal,

1171
01:16:52,850 --> 01:16:56,650
delay, or non response violates that duty. I have personally

1172
01:16:56,650 --> 01:17:00,090
experienced a situation where a lawful presentment was received by

1173
01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:04,305
a financial institution. Acknowledged by return receipt and then ignored

1174
01:17:04,305 --> 01:17:07,705
even after sworn affidavits were delivered. No response. Was given

1175
01:17:07,705 --> 01:17:10,665
by executive leadership. That is not transparency, and it is

1176
01:17:10,665 --> 01:17:15,124
not acceptable. In a city that values fairness and economic

1177
01:17:15,124 --> 01:17:20,264
opportunity. This is not about avoiding responsible responsibility or free

1178
01:17:20,264 --> 01:17:23,624
money. It is about lawful discharge of debt. Financial literacy

1179
01:17:23,624 --> 01:17:27,344
and equal access to the same tools institutions use today.

1180
01:17:27,344 --> 01:17:30,224
I am asking this council to encourage dialogue, education and

1181
01:17:30,224 --> 01:17:35,001
accountability between. Financial institutions and the public. When banks operate

1182
01:17:35,001 --> 01:17:37,681
above the law or refuse to explain their actions, the

1183
01:17:37,681 --> 01:17:42,512
people suffer. Economic freedom begins with understanding the law, and

1184
01:17:42,512 --> 01:17:45,392
the law already provides these tools. Thank you for your

1185
01:17:45,392 --> 01:17:51,208
time. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Okay. Any other speakers?

1186
01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:56,140
Okay. I was going to say, you get one. Is

1187
01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:59,540
there anyone else who'd like to. Speak. Okay. Seeing none,

1188
01:17:59,540 --> 01:18:02,380
then. Thank you very much. We appreciate you always taking

1189
01:18:02,380 --> 01:18:07,149
the time to come. And speak to us. Thank you.

1190
01:18:07,149 --> 01:18:10,589
Moving on to item eight, public hearings. We're going to

1191
01:18:10,589 --> 01:18:16,198
go to 8.1 general plan amendment 2024. To change the

1192
01:18:16,198 --> 01:18:20,038
land use designation of parcels at three two three South

1193
01:18:20,038 --> 01:18:24,758
Bell Avenue and 32222. South Washburn Avenue from low density

1194
01:18:24,758 --> 01:18:31,627
residential. To sorry, low density residential to general commercial to

1195
01:18:31,627 --> 01:18:35,547
mixed use downtown, including zero point 87 acres of right

1196
01:18:35,547 --> 01:18:38,307
of way. Does any council member want a staff report

1197
01:18:38,307 --> 01:18:41,787
on this item saying none? Jim is going to say

1198
01:18:41,787 --> 01:18:45,067
no. Wes, do you want to report on this? No,

1199
01:18:45,067 --> 01:18:49,965
thank you. Okay, then. Ms. Vanyan. You're off the hook

1200
01:18:49,965 --> 01:18:52,405
on that, but the public hearing is now open. Ms.

1201
01:18:52,405 --> 01:18:55,965
Edwards has the city clerk's office receive correspondence or speaker

1202
01:18:55,965 --> 01:18:59,603
cards from the public regarding this item. Mayor, we have

1203
01:18:59,603 --> 01:19:02,603
not received any correspondence or speaker cards for this item.

1204
01:19:02,603 --> 01:19:04,883
Thank you. In that case, the public hearing is now

1205
01:19:04,883 --> 01:19:07,443
closed. Do I have any questions or comments from my

1206
01:19:07,443 --> 01:19:12,802
colleagues? Saying none. Saying none. Okay, then I'll entertain a

1207
01:19:12,802 --> 01:19:17,845
motion. Move by Stanley. Seconded by Richard. Seconded by speak.

1208
01:19:19,362 --> 01:19:24,649
All right, let's take a vote on that item. Item

1209
01:19:24,649 --> 01:19:28,569
8.1 passes unanimously, moving on to 8.2 specific plan amendment.

1210
01:19:33,695 --> 01:19:38,015
20240 zero three to the downtown revitalization specific plan to

1211
01:19:38,015 --> 01:19:40,495
change the zoning of parcels at three two three South

1212
01:19:40,495 --> 01:19:43,575
Bell and three two two south Washburn. From single family

1213
01:19:43,575 --> 01:19:47,655
to Gateway. Business to downtown, including zero point. 87 acres

1214
01:19:47,655 --> 01:19:49,775
of public right of way. Does any council member want

1215
01:19:49,775 --> 01:19:53,586
to report on this item. Off the hook again. Public

1216
01:19:53,586 --> 01:19:56,786
hearing is now open. Ms. Edwards has the city clerk's

1217
01:19:56,786 --> 01:19:59,546
office. Receive correspondence or speaker cards from the public regarding

1218
01:19:59,546 --> 01:20:02,186
this item. Mayor we did not receive correspondence, but we

1219
01:20:02,186 --> 01:20:04,626
did receive one speaker card for this item. Okay, then

1220
01:20:04,626 --> 01:20:07,106
let's go ahead and have the speaker. Come on up.

1221
01:20:07,106 --> 01:20:13,473
Speaking on. This specific plan change amendment. Good evening. Joe

1222
01:20:13,473 --> 01:20:17,753
Morgan. 263 Ren. So I want to speak a little

1223
01:20:17,753 --> 01:20:23,286
bit. Partially on this item, but partially just overall on

1224
01:20:23,286 --> 01:20:27,163
the process. So I've been to a lot of meetings,

1225
01:20:27,163 --> 01:20:30,907
been a lot of planning commission meetings. I generally think

1226
01:20:30,907 --> 01:20:35,136
that our planning commission does a great job. What I

1227
01:20:35,136 --> 01:20:38,174
see them do is go door to door. I see

1228
01:20:38,174 --> 01:20:40,614
them. Make sure that the residents are up to speed

1229
01:20:40,614 --> 01:20:44,804
on the project, that their concerns are brought forward. And

1230
01:20:44,804 --> 01:20:50,084
they diligently work and press to level up every project

1231
01:20:50,084 --> 01:20:52,992
that comes in front of them. What I saw the

1232
01:20:52,992 --> 01:21:00,710
night that this project was approved. Was shockingly familiar. Kind

1233
01:21:00,710 --> 01:21:04,193
of a process. It's in fact a process that has

1234
01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:08,935
brought me down here. For this last decade plus. Which

1235
01:21:08,935 --> 01:21:13,455
is when the kaiser was built. Behind our house, we

1236
01:21:13,455 --> 01:21:15,015
got a three by five card that there was a

1237
01:21:15,015 --> 01:21:19,095
planning commission meeting about a thing being built on Kellogg.

1238
01:21:19,095 --> 01:21:22,159
Nobody said what it was. Nobody said what it was

1239
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,599
about, how it would affect us, what it would look

1240
01:21:24,599 --> 01:21:27,919
like. Nobody gave us any idea what it was about?

1241
01:21:29,382 --> 01:21:32,942
I didn't know really how the planning commission process worked

1242
01:21:32,942 --> 01:21:35,262
at the time, but we got a three by five

1243
01:21:35,262 --> 01:21:36,782
card that says, well, if you want to take off,

1244
01:21:36,782 --> 01:21:38,742
work in the middle. Of the day on a Tuesday.

1245
01:21:38,742 --> 01:21:40,822
You can come down here, talk about a thing about

1246
01:21:40,822 --> 01:21:44,138
which you know nothing about. Seems like that's what we

1247
01:21:44,138 --> 01:21:49,769
went back to. Was this one particular item? There's one

1248
01:21:49,769 --> 01:21:53,329
thing. There's one supermarket. This is a planning commission that.

1249
01:21:54,986 --> 01:21:58,346
Sent Starbucks on Green river back to the drawing board

1250
01:21:58,346 --> 01:22:02,288
three times to get a double drive through. They went

1251
01:22:02,288 --> 01:22:07,180
and talked. All the businesses found out. What their busiest

1252
01:22:07,180 --> 01:22:11,365
hours were. How the shape of the drive through might

1253
01:22:11,365 --> 01:22:19,007
affect. Their business. But this project much bigger.

1254
01:22:21,602 --> 01:22:27,985
Much more invasive. I think. A plus for downtown. But

1255
01:22:27,985 --> 01:22:31,060
the fact that. For at least the two years that

1256
01:22:31,060 --> 01:22:34,220
I know of, this hasn't changed substantially. There was no

1257
01:22:34,220 --> 01:22:36,540
improvement. There was no nothing. I have the plans from

1258
01:22:36,540 --> 01:22:39,261
two years ago. There was one planner got changed in

1259
01:22:39,261 --> 01:22:44,546
the parking lot. Everything else is the same. And the

1260
01:22:44,546 --> 01:22:48,266
fact that it wasn't changed, modified, been pushed by the

1261
01:22:48,266 --> 01:22:52,529
planning commission to level up. Really says something about how

1262
01:22:52,529 --> 01:22:57,453
this city works. When you see a process. That works

1263
01:22:57,453 --> 01:22:59,373
a certain way all the time, and then one time,

1264
01:22:59,373 --> 01:23:05,088
it just works completely different. Says a lot. Thanks. Thank

1265
01:23:05,088 --> 01:23:09,490
you. Okay, Ms. Edters, are there any other speaker cards

1266
01:23:09,490 --> 01:23:13,398
for item 8.2? Where we do not have any more

1267
01:23:13,398 --> 01:23:16,963
speaker cards. All right. Well, then the public hearing is

1268
01:23:16,963 --> 01:23:21,845
now closed. Any questions or comments from my colleagues? Okay,

1269
01:23:21,845 --> 01:23:27,074
move to approve. By. Who said that? Council member Desireio

1270
01:23:27,074 --> 01:23:31,883
seconded by vice mayor. Speak. Mayor. The motion needs to

1271
01:23:31,883 --> 01:23:33,763
be read because it's the first reading of an ordinance.

1272
01:23:35,122 --> 01:23:38,451
No. You moved council member to Darian. All right, I'll

1273
01:23:38,451 --> 01:23:42,547
read it. It's fine. Introduced by title only and waiveful

1274
01:23:42,547 --> 01:23:45,747
reading of the consideration of ordinance number 3425. 1st reading

1275
01:23:45,747 --> 01:23:50,373
of the ordinance approving SBA 2024. Three, an amendment to

1276
01:23:50,373 --> 01:23:54,213
the downtown specific plan to change the zoning designation from

1277
01:23:54,213 --> 01:23:58,453
two parcels located at 323 South Bell and 322 South

1278
01:23:58,453 --> 01:24:03,007
Washburn Avenue. From single family. And from single family and

1279
01:24:03,007 --> 01:24:08,228
gateway business, respectively, to downtown. And to establish a downtown

1280
01:24:08,228 --> 01:24:11,668
zoning on approximately zero 87 acres of public right away

1281
01:24:11,668 --> 01:24:17,243
within fourth and fifth streets thank you, vice mayor. Everyone,

1282
01:24:17,243 --> 01:24:23,086
please vote. And that item passes unanimously. Moving on to

1283
01:24:23,086 --> 01:24:28,966
8.3. Parcel Map 38981 to merge 13 lots with zero

1284
01:24:28,966 --> 01:24:32,166
point 87 acres of public right of way to create

1285
01:24:32,166 --> 01:24:37,126
one lot totaling 4.7 acres for commercial purposes, generally located

1286
01:24:37,126 --> 01:24:41,229
at the northwest corner. Area of West 6th street and

1287
01:24:41,229 --> 01:24:43,909
South Main Street. Ms. Edwards, are there any speaker cards

1288
01:24:43,909 --> 01:24:46,429
or written comments from the public mayor we did not

1289
01:24:46,429 --> 01:24:49,309
receive correspondence and we do not have any speaker cards.

1290
01:24:49,309 --> 01:24:54,025
For this item. Thank you. I'll entertain a motion. Limited.

1291
01:24:54,025 --> 01:24:59,714
Approved by council member Steiner, seconded by Richards. And. It

1292
01:24:59,714 --> 01:25:04,693
came up, and then. There it goes. Thank you. That

1293
01:25:04,693 --> 01:25:13,120
item passes unanimously. 50. Coming up to item 8.4, the

1294
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:19,181
precise plan 2024. One to review the site plan, architecture

1295
01:25:19,181 --> 01:25:23,861
and other features associated with a proposed Northcay Gonzalez market

1296
01:25:23,861 --> 01:25:27,901
and remodel of an existing commercial building on 4.7 acres

1297
01:25:27,901 --> 01:25:31,101
located on 6th Street, Bell Avenue and Main Street. Ms.

1298
01:25:31,101 --> 01:25:33,021
Edwards, are there any speaker cards or written comments from

1299
01:25:33,021 --> 01:25:35,621
the public mayor we did not receive any written comments

1300
01:25:35,621 --> 01:25:37,279
for the item, but we. Do have one speaker card.

1301
01:25:37,279 --> 01:25:39,599
Okay, let's go ahead and bring up the speaker card.

1302
01:25:39,599 --> 01:25:49,518
The speaker. To the point that I made

1303
01:25:49,518 --> 01:25:53,238
last time, that nothing was leveled up, nothing was improved.

1304
01:25:56,854 --> 01:26:01,128
The part about. This particular section that just chaps my

1305
01:26:01,128 --> 01:26:04,709
ass and really says, what's going on down. Here. Is

1306
01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:07,069
the fact that you are deliberately running a truck route

1307
01:26:07,069 --> 01:26:12,556
through a neighborhood. You're going to have eight to 15

1308
01:26:12,556 --> 01:26:15,931
trips a day. Once the store is in a regular

1309
01:26:15,931 --> 01:26:19,171
operation. Probably way more than that. While it's being built

1310
01:26:19,171 --> 01:26:24,732
while it's being stocked. And. I challenge you. Would any

1311
01:26:24,732 --> 01:26:26,772
of you approve a truck route through your own neighborhood?

1312
01:26:28,459 --> 01:26:31,859
To illustrate the point, I thought I would bring kind

1313
01:26:31,859 --> 01:26:34,979
of a visual aid, maybe an oral aid. I guess

1314
01:26:34,979 --> 01:26:37,219
to know what you're going to subject this neighborhood to.

1315
01:26:38,973 --> 01:26:41,093
Ten plus times a day, so you might want to

1316
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:45,086
cover your ears. I'm giving you a fair warning. Cover

1317
01:26:45,086 --> 01:26:45,446
your ears.

1318
01:27:13,448 --> 01:27:17,428
Morgan. You're going to beep for a minute and 30

1319
01:27:17,428 --> 01:27:26,630
seconds. I've got a minute and 30 seconds ago. Yeah,

1320
01:27:26,630 --> 01:27:33,033
that truck driver probably would get in trouble. Long backup.

1321
01:27:35,633 --> 01:27:39,553
Thank you, Mr. Morgan. We appreciate you making the point.

1322
01:27:39,553 --> 01:27:43,908
Thank you. If you wouldn't approve that in your neighborhood.

1323
01:27:45,438 --> 01:27:48,478
If you don't think that's acceptable in your neighborhood to

1324
01:27:48,478 --> 01:27:52,358
have semi trucks backing up down your street. You shouldn't

1325
01:27:52,358 --> 01:27:54,638
do it on Fourth street and Bell. You shouldn't. Do

1326
01:27:54,638 --> 01:27:59,448
it to them. I remember when Fullerton and Ontario was

1327
01:27:59,448 --> 01:28:03,110
developed, the city made them go to the neighborhood. They

1328
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:06,230
moved the store. They twisted the store. They put the

1329
01:28:06,230 --> 01:28:08,990
loading docks on the other side. They moved them away

1330
01:28:08,990 --> 01:28:13,364
from the houses. They didn't run them down a residential

1331
01:28:13,364 --> 01:28:17,984
street. So when they were messing around with the Green

1332
01:28:17,984 --> 01:28:20,624
river thing, that's the neighborhood that the planning commissioners live

1333
01:28:20,624 --> 01:28:27,282
in. So, do you see the difference? When everybody just

1334
01:28:27,282 --> 01:28:30,475
comes in and says, well, It's tight. It's a challenging

1335
01:28:30,475 --> 01:28:33,315
situation. It's not challenging for you, you just get to

1336
01:28:33,315 --> 01:28:35,035
vote for it and the neighbors down there get to

1337
01:28:35,035 --> 01:28:38,275
deal with it. They will. Literally have semi trucks backing

1338
01:28:38,275 --> 01:28:41,475
up down their street multiple times a day. If you

1339
01:28:41,475 --> 01:28:43,875
don't. Have a problem with it. That says a lot

1340
01:28:43,875 --> 01:28:48,315
about you. You could talk about being from downtown. You

1341
01:28:48,315 --> 01:28:51,001
don't give a shit. About downtown. Thank you, Mr. Morgan.

1342
01:28:52,515 --> 01:28:54,995
Okay. And I believe we have the applicant here. Would

1343
01:28:54,995 --> 01:28:58,626
you like to come up and make some? Remarks. We

1344
01:28:58,626 --> 01:29:00,586
also have staff that are ready to introduce them with

1345
01:29:00,586 --> 01:29:03,146
the presentation. Oh, there's a presentation? I didn't think there

1346
01:29:03,146 --> 01:29:07,066
was. Okay, then. Actually, let's have the presentation. So. Sorry.

1347
01:29:33,236 --> 01:29:39,861
Good evening, mayor, members of the council. I'm just going

1348
01:29:39,861 --> 01:29:43,265
to go through my presentation. And take us to the

1349
01:29:43,265 --> 01:29:46,505
site plan, which is associated with item 8.4, which is

1350
01:29:46,505 --> 01:29:51,610
the precise plan that's being reviewed right now. So this

1351
01:29:51,610 --> 01:29:55,330
is an exhibit showing the site layout of the Northgate

1352
01:29:55,330 --> 01:30:01,784
project that is the subject. Of this item. Just to

1353
01:30:01,784 --> 01:30:05,104
orient yourself. So on the left side, that's 6th street,

1354
01:30:05,104 --> 01:30:07,584
and on the south. That's main street. And then at

1355
01:30:07,584 --> 01:30:11,344
the top of that image, that's bell Avenue. The development

1356
01:30:11,344 --> 01:30:17,690
side is. 4.70 acres overall. The north skate market is

1357
01:30:17,690 --> 01:30:20,050
proposed on the right hand side of this image. That

1358
01:30:20,050 --> 01:30:23,250
would be the northern portion of the site. The building

1359
01:30:23,250 --> 01:30:27,410
is 40,000 sqft. In size. Right behind that building is

1360
01:30:27,410 --> 01:30:33,840
their loading area. The site does. Abut existing residential properties

1361
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,680
immediately to the north. And so I do want to

1362
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,200
go over what some of the things that the applicant

1363
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,800
will be doing to help mitigate some of that noise.

1364
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,800
And just screen this development from those existing or residential

1365
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,040
uses. So the applicant will be constructing a six foot

1366
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:53,267
high block wall along that shared property line. Between this

1367
01:30:53,267 --> 01:30:57,067
site and the existing residences to the north. In addition

1368
01:30:57,067 --> 01:31:00,347
to that, they will be installing a line of trees

1369
01:31:00,347 --> 01:31:04,738
along that same perimeter. And so the block wall, in

1370
01:31:04,738 --> 01:31:07,938
combination with the landscaping, will help not only screen this

1371
01:31:07,938 --> 01:31:11,378
development from the residential land uses, but also to provide

1372
01:31:11,378 --> 01:31:16,688
that buffer to help mitigate any potential noise. The development

1373
01:31:16,688 --> 01:31:20,608
has a total of five vehicle entrances. One is located

1374
01:31:20,608 --> 01:31:24,208
on Main street, one on six. And three on Bell

1375
01:31:24,208 --> 01:31:30,823
Avenue. The entrance on Main Street. That is designed to

1376
01:31:30,823 --> 01:31:34,383
align with the existing entrance for the Corona mall that's

1377
01:31:34,383 --> 01:31:37,503
located directly across the street on the east side of

1378
01:31:37,503 --> 01:31:42,142
Main Street. That entrance will also be shared with the

1379
01:31:42,142 --> 01:31:46,682
parcel. That's not a part of this development. That parcel

1380
01:31:46,682 --> 01:31:52,127
is under separate ownership. At the top left corner, right

1381
01:31:52,127 --> 01:31:55,927
there, that is the former Citizens bank that's currently vacant.

1382
01:31:55,927 --> 01:32:01,134
Right now. With this development. The applicant will be remodeling

1383
01:32:01,134 --> 01:32:04,654
that building to accommodate two future tenants. One will be

1384
01:32:04,654 --> 01:32:07,214
a bank and the other will be a future restaurant.

1385
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:10,519
And in the middle of this development is the proposed

1386
01:32:10,519 --> 01:32:14,751
parking lot. Those parking spaces will be shared among the

1387
01:32:14,751 --> 01:32:20,833
tenants within this development. With respect to public improvements, the

1388
01:32:20,833 --> 01:32:24,633
applicant is required to install a traffic signal at the

1389
01:32:24,633 --> 01:32:29,537
Main street. Entrance right there at that intersection. In addition,

1390
01:32:30,682 --> 01:32:33,806
They will be. Widening Main street, the portion of Main

1391
01:32:33,806 --> 01:32:37,084
street that abuts the project site. As well as doing

1392
01:32:37,084 --> 01:32:41,171
some restribing to include a designated. Bright term that would

1393
01:32:41,171 --> 01:32:43,131
allow for vehicles to turn to the project site.

1394
01:32:54,994 --> 01:32:59,634
This image here shows the truck route for Northgate's delivery

1395
01:32:59,634 --> 01:33:04,071
trucks. The truck routes are anticipated to come off of

1396
01:33:04,071 --> 01:33:08,351
the 91 freeway. They would travel southbound on main. Street.

1397
01:33:08,351 --> 01:33:11,831
They would swing right onto 6th street, make another ride

1398
01:33:11,831 --> 01:33:14,831
onto bell, and then they would access the back of

1399
01:33:14,831 --> 01:33:18,311
the property from Bell Avenue. If the council has any

1400
01:33:18,311 --> 01:33:22,335
questions regarding the track access. Or the track route. We're

1401
01:33:22,335 --> 01:33:23,655
more than happy to answer those questions at the end

1402
01:33:23,655 --> 01:33:33,168
of this presentation. The next four slides contain renderings of

1403
01:33:33,168 --> 01:33:36,568
the development after it's built, and they are showing the

1404
01:33:36,568 --> 01:33:40,208
development from different angles, from the different views of the

1405
01:33:40,208 --> 01:33:43,328
surrounding streets. So on this one, here. This is from

1406
01:33:43,328 --> 01:33:47,839
the main street entrance. As you can see, the architecture

1407
01:33:47,839 --> 01:33:52,159
includes spanish elements, and this design does comply with the

1408
01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:56,719
design guidelines. And are adopted downtown corona robotization specific plan.

1409
01:33:58,289 --> 01:34:01,489
This is a view from Bell street, and this shows

1410
01:34:01,489 --> 01:34:08,672
the rear and side of the Northgate. Market. In this

1411
01:34:08,672 --> 01:34:11,032
image here, you can also see the block wall that's

1412
01:34:11,032 --> 01:34:14,032
proposed along that shared property line adjacent to the existing

1413
01:34:14,032 --> 01:34:16,672
residences, as well as the line of trees that the

1414
01:34:16,672 --> 01:34:23,637
applicant will be constructing with this development. And this view

1415
01:34:23,637 --> 01:34:26,797
is from the southbound lanes on Main street. And this

1416
01:34:26,797 --> 01:34:34,261
shows the east side of the Northgate market. And this

1417
01:34:34,261 --> 01:34:37,501
here shows the development from the corner of Six and

1418
01:34:37,501 --> 01:34:41,301
Bell. And this would be the newly remodeled Citizen bank

1419
01:34:41,301 --> 01:34:46,180
building. Stef is recommending that the council approves the items

1420
01:34:46,180 --> 01:34:48,900
that are over the precise plan. That's being presented before

1421
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:56,404
you tonight. Is there any questions? I'm available for any

1422
01:34:56,404 --> 01:34:58,564
questions. And the applicants team is here as well, thank

1423
01:34:58,564 --> 01:35:01,404
you. Thank you, Ms. Vanyan. This is the presentation that

1424
01:35:01,404 --> 01:35:05,004
was on item 8.2 I apologize. Since we didn't ask

1425
01:35:05,004 --> 01:35:06,884
for the report. We should have done that earlier. But

1426
01:35:06,884 --> 01:35:10,316
I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Okay, so thank

1427
01:35:10,316 --> 01:35:13,196
you for that presentation. We have the applicant. Would the

1428
01:35:13,196 --> 01:35:22,693
applicant like to make any? Remarks. Good

1429
01:35:22,693 --> 01:35:28,336
evening. My name is Michelle Gonzalez, and I am. Proud

1430
01:35:28,336 --> 01:35:31,936
to represent third generation of the Northgate market family. I

1431
01:35:31,936 --> 01:35:34,656
want to sincerely thank you for the opportunity to present

1432
01:35:34,656 --> 01:35:38,256
our project and for allowing us the chance to become

1433
01:35:38,256 --> 01:35:41,405
the part of the Corona community. I have been blessed

1434
01:35:41,405 --> 01:35:44,925
to be involved with this project since 2019, when we

1435
01:35:44,925 --> 01:35:48,954
first acquired the first property. Over the years, I have

1436
01:35:48,954 --> 01:35:52,314
closely followed the city of Corona and haven't been inspired.

1437
01:35:52,314 --> 01:35:57,273
The strong presence of family owned businesses. That truly care

1438
01:35:57,273 --> 01:35:59,473
about their community. Like many of them, Northgate Market is

1439
01:35:59,473 --> 01:36:03,073
a family owned business. Built on a long term commitment,

1440
01:36:03,073 --> 01:36:05,833
shared values, and a deep sense of responsibility to the

1441
01:36:05,833 --> 01:36:10,411
neighborhoods we serve. We believe in putting our family, our

1442
01:36:10,411 --> 01:36:15,620
associates and our community first. That that commitment is reflected

1443
01:36:15,620 --> 01:36:21,137
through the outreach efforts, including Christmas toy giveaways. Food distribution

1444
01:36:21,137 --> 01:36:25,137
held focus community events, scholarships to our associates and our

1445
01:36:25,137 --> 01:36:31,296
community. We anticipate approximately 250 total hires for the corona

1446
01:36:31,296 --> 01:36:37,216
residents as part of this project. We personally delivered information

1447
01:36:37,216 --> 01:36:41,096
to the residents on Bell Avenue, Third Street, Fourth street

1448
01:36:41,096 --> 01:36:45,896
and Washburn and I was honored to meet several community

1449
01:36:45,896 --> 01:36:50,550
members who share their thoughts and hope with us. On

1450
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:55,110
opening day, our amazing associates prepare to welcome the neighbors.

1451
01:36:55,110 --> 01:36:57,470
But it is when the first customer walks through the

1452
01:36:57,470 --> 01:37:00,990
doors that the stores truly comes to life. That is

1453
01:37:00,990 --> 01:37:04,390
when the heart begins to be because our customers and

1454
01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:07,310
our community are the sole of our store we look

1455
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:11,021
forward to serving. Corona for generations to. Come and become

1456
01:37:11,021 --> 01:37:17,510
a trusted, contributing member of this community. Thank you. Did

1457
01:37:17,510 --> 01:37:20,864
you have anything to add? Well, we are thrilled to

1458
01:37:20,864 --> 01:37:23,819
have you. Thank you so much for coming. And making

1459
01:37:23,819 --> 01:37:27,019
those comments. And I know for a fact that Northgate

1460
01:37:27,019 --> 01:37:29,419
market is always an asset. To the communities, wherever you

1461
01:37:29,419 --> 01:37:36,424
all are. You invest? You hire local? And you stick

1462
01:37:36,424 --> 01:37:39,344
to your authentic roots, and we just read deeply. I

1463
01:37:39,344 --> 01:37:41,544
deeply appreciate that. I'm. Very excited to have you here.

1464
01:37:41,544 --> 01:37:45,055
I know I can speak for others. I know that.

1465
01:37:45,055 --> 01:37:46,815
Northgate. Did you guys have a video that you'd wanted

1466
01:37:46,815 --> 01:37:49,975
to show? You have a bit. You do? Okay. Yeah,

1467
01:37:49,975 --> 01:37:55,640
sure. Let's go ahead and have that. Great story begins

1468
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,200
with family. For the Gonzalez family, that story starts in

1469
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,120
Halo Sotitlan Aliso. A place rooted in Faye hard work

1470
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,120
and the belief that together, anything is possible in the

1471
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,960
1950s and 60s, Don Miguel Gonzalez was a proud shoe

1472
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:13,720
merchant in Mexico. But after a devastating factory fire and

1473
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,168
mounting financial. Hardship, the family made a brave choice, a

1474
01:38:17,168 --> 01:38:20,208
leap of faith that would change their future forever. Don

1475
01:38:20,208 --> 01:38:23,128
Miguel brought two of his youngest sons to the United

1476
01:38:23,128 --> 01:38:27,008
States to rebuild their lives. Donna Teresa stayed behind raising

1477
01:38:27,008 --> 01:38:31,248
the rest of their nine children. Resilience, resolve, faith. These

1478
01:38:31,248 --> 01:38:35,568
values became the foundation of everything that came next. In

1479
01:38:35,568 --> 01:38:39,608
1980, with the family reunited, they took a courageous leap

1480
01:38:39,608 --> 01:38:42,528
of faith and converted a small liquor store in Anaheim

1481
01:38:42,528 --> 01:38:45,608
into a grocery market. They couldn't even afford any sign.

1482
01:38:45,608 --> 01:38:50,008
So the name Northgate stayed. One store, 13 siblings, no

1483
01:38:50,008 --> 01:38:53,928
employees, only family. From that humble beginning, a dream began.

1484
01:38:53,928 --> 01:38:58,072
To grow one. Store at a time. Today, Northgate Gonzalez

1485
01:38:58,072 --> 01:39:02,152
Market operates 45 stores across Southern California, employing more than

1486
01:39:02,152 --> 01:39:06,192
8000 associates and serving hundreds of thousands of customers every

1487
01:39:06,192 --> 01:39:08,952
week. But the true success of Northgate it's not just

1488
01:39:08,952 --> 01:39:11,832
in the business growth, it's in the impact on people.

1489
01:39:11,832 --> 01:39:15,392
Every new Northgate market brings something powerful to a neighborhood

1490
01:39:15,392 --> 01:39:19,861
more. Than 250 new jobs, access to fresh, authentic mexican

1491
01:39:19,861 --> 01:39:24,221
foods, ingredients sourced from Mexico, prepared with tradition and the

1492
01:39:24,221 --> 01:39:28,061
shopping experience that feels like home, warm welcome and treat

1493
01:39:28,061 --> 01:39:31,581
it with respect. For more than 45 years, the Gonzalez

1494
01:39:31,581 --> 01:39:35,261
family has believed that success means giving back. When Northgate

1495
01:39:35,261 --> 01:39:38,105
market open. Opens a new store. It partners with clinics,

1496
01:39:38,105 --> 01:39:42,945
hospitals, schools and nonprofits to provide mammograms flu clinics, chronic

1497
01:39:42,945 --> 01:39:46,985
illness screenings, nutrition classes and healthy cooking demos through the

1498
01:39:46,985 --> 01:39:52,225
Gonzalez Reynoso Family foundation. Students across Southern California receive scholarships

1499
01:39:52,225 --> 01:39:55,705
and support to pursue their dreams. And every year Northgate

1500
01:39:55,705 --> 01:39:59,477
market. Helps thousands of families through food distributions. Five k

1501
01:39:59,477 --> 01:40:03,237
races and its beloved Santa toy drive now nearly 30

1502
01:40:03,237 --> 01:40:07,917
years strong. Because at Northgate Gonzalez market, faith, education and

1503
01:40:07,917 --> 01:40:11,517
wellness aren't just corporate. Pillars. They are a promise as

1504
01:40:11,517 --> 01:40:15,037
a proudly family owned business now led by second and

1505
01:40:15,037 --> 01:40:19,344
third generation brothers and. Sisters. Northgate Gonzalez Market continues to

1506
01:40:19,344 --> 01:40:24,024
grow, expanding into new neighborhoods, creating new opportunities and uplifting

1507
01:40:24,024 --> 01:40:27,504
the communities we call home. From one small storm to

1508
01:40:27,504 --> 01:40:30,424
a legacy of service, from a family dream. To a

1509
01:40:30,424 --> 01:40:33,984
force for good. Northgate Gonzalez market is more than a

1510
01:40:33,984 --> 01:40:37,760
grocery store. It's a community partner, a place. Of culture

1511
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:42,320
and a gateway to opportunity. Northgate Gonzalez Market. Proudly serving

1512
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:47,398
our communities. Yesterday, today and for generations to come. That's

1513
01:40:47,398 --> 01:40:51,078
beautiful. A lot to be proud of. A lot to

1514
01:40:51,078 --> 01:40:54,198
show for it. Thank you. So much. Thanks for bringing

1515
01:40:54,198 --> 01:40:56,598
the family to Corona. I know it's been a long

1516
01:40:56,598 --> 01:41:02,243
process. But we appreciate it. And we can't wait to

1517
01:41:02,243 --> 01:41:04,803
have you as part of the downtown. Thank you so

1518
01:41:04,803 --> 01:41:08,989
much. Okay, so do we have a motion? I'd love

1519
01:41:08,989 --> 01:41:12,347
to move on this item is there. A second. Sorry.

1520
01:41:13,796 --> 01:41:16,276
I'm so excited about it. I was like, let's move

1521
01:41:16,276 --> 01:41:18,716
through. But, yes, my colleagues questions, comments go ahead, Tom.

1522
01:41:20,386 --> 01:41:25,353
Go ahead, Tony. Having grown up in Anaheim and being

1523
01:41:25,353 --> 01:41:27,913
very familiar with the Northgate market, I'm super. Excited to

1524
01:41:27,913 --> 01:41:30,913
see them not only come to Corona, obviously they're expanding

1525
01:41:30,913 --> 01:41:36,024
into the inland Empire. But what? A great family story

1526
01:41:36,024 --> 01:41:39,138
that they have. Candidly, I don't know how they get

1527
01:41:39,138 --> 01:41:42,378
anything done with 13 or 14 family members. All running

1528
01:41:42,378 --> 01:41:47,120
the business. That just seems to me. Like a recipe

1529
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,480
for disaster, but they're able to get it done. So

1530
01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:52,640
what a testament. To that family. I've seen them open

1531
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,480
locations all throughout the Southland, and they are genuine. In

1532
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:59,360
their commitment to partner with the community. So something that

1533
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,944
I'm very excited for. It's a beautiful facility. I'm excited

1534
01:42:02,944 --> 01:42:06,268
that. They're going to come here to Corona. So thank

1535
01:42:06,268 --> 01:42:09,148
you for investing in our community and that's going to

1536
01:42:09,148 --> 01:42:11,668
be a welcome addition to not only our community, but

1537
01:42:11,668 --> 01:42:13,988
to that corner. As well, so thank you. Ditto. Thank

1538
01:42:13,988 --> 01:42:18,227
you, Tony. Tom. Yeah. I had the chance to go

1539
01:42:18,227 --> 01:42:21,227
Walk Bell street and talk with the neighbors. I went

1540
01:42:21,227 --> 01:42:24,407
house to house and gave him my business card. And

1541
01:42:24,407 --> 01:42:27,087
overwhelmingly, every one of them said thank you to Northgate

1542
01:42:27,087 --> 01:42:30,007
for sending them a letter in. English and Spanish and

1543
01:42:30,007 --> 01:42:34,024
that. It's going to be meeting with them. And then

1544
01:42:34,024 --> 01:42:36,944
second, they're all excited for the project. They can't wait

1545
01:42:36,944 --> 01:42:39,767
for it. To show up. They said it's going to

1546
01:42:39,767 --> 01:42:41,887
clean up the area. They're not going to have to

1547
01:42:41,887 --> 01:42:47,053
go far for shopping. A little jealous on that. And

1548
01:42:47,053 --> 01:42:50,053
I'm just really happy about this project coming. I feel

1549
01:42:50,053 --> 01:42:53,733
like they followed our downtown. Design guidelines. And I'd also

1550
01:42:53,733 --> 01:42:57,333
like to give a shout out to Mr. Hemley, who.

1551
01:42:57,333 --> 01:42:59,853
Owns the building on the corner because he's gone out

1552
01:42:59,853 --> 01:43:02,813
of his way to cooperate with Northgate and to work

1553
01:43:02,813 --> 01:43:06,744
with them and help. Proceed that press forward. And so

1554
01:43:06,744 --> 01:43:11,374
I'd like to, as an ex, Will representative of District

1555
01:43:11,374 --> 01:43:13,934
three in the downtown. I really want to thank him

1556
01:43:13,934 --> 01:43:16,814
for doing that and with that. I'm excited for Northgate.

1557
01:43:16,814 --> 01:43:20,134
Thank you, mayor. Thanks, Tom. Jim. Yeah, I just. Wanted

1558
01:43:20,134 --> 01:43:21,894
to welcome you to Corona. We're really happy to have

1559
01:43:21,894 --> 01:43:24,790
you, so thank you. I just wanted to thank you.

1560
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,544
I know. I'm familiar as well. And normally, I would

1561
01:43:31,544 --> 01:43:35,024
say in normal situations, and this is not normal right

1562
01:43:35,024 --> 01:43:38,731
now. And that normally you would do a big outreach.

1563
01:43:40,398 --> 01:43:44,282
Larger in person. Big gathering, outreach to the folks that

1564
01:43:44,282 --> 01:43:47,377
live in the neighborhood. I know that. The reasons why

1565
01:43:47,377 --> 01:43:49,977
you didn't do that, and I appreciate the fact that

1566
01:43:49,977 --> 01:43:52,417
you went back. And did it. After the planning commission,

1567
01:43:52,417 --> 01:43:54,497
you said you would do it. You've done it. I'm

1568
01:43:54,497 --> 01:43:57,497
really happy to hear that councilor Richens went and did

1569
01:43:57,497 --> 01:44:00,057
that as well. And I have heard the same that

1570
01:44:00,057 --> 01:44:03,166
folks are really excited about coming down. I took my

1571
01:44:03,166 --> 01:44:07,931
wife over to the Northgate market in Riverside. And had

1572
01:44:07,931 --> 01:44:11,091
her try some of the tamales. And my cuban wife

1573
01:44:11,091 --> 01:44:15,291
was very impressed, in fact. She went back twice to

1574
01:44:15,291 --> 01:44:18,891
get. To get more, and she keeps asking me when

1575
01:44:18,891 --> 01:44:20,171
you're. Going to start and when you're going to open.

1576
01:44:21,957 --> 01:44:23,957
So I'm excited for you being down there. Excited so

1577
01:44:23,957 --> 01:44:26,677
much. I want to thank you. For the investment downtown.

1578
01:44:26,677 --> 01:44:29,637
This is a major step in what we want to

1579
01:44:29,637 --> 01:44:33,689
see downtown and the investment there. And I know that

1580
01:44:33,689 --> 01:44:36,209
wasn't easy. You guys have spent a long time and

1581
01:44:36,209 --> 01:44:38,489
a lot. Of money getting to this point, and we

1582
01:44:38,489 --> 01:44:40,889
are so excited, and I can tell you that everybody

1583
01:44:40,889 --> 01:44:43,489
I talk to. If I mention, like, I think I

1584
01:44:43,489 --> 01:44:47,745
posted something about. Just a business that was struggling that

1585
01:44:47,745 --> 01:44:51,533
didn't get a lot of folks to come in. And

1586
01:44:51,533 --> 01:44:55,767
the third comment was, when is Northgate opening? So thank

1587
01:44:55,767 --> 01:44:59,687
you and welcome and looking forward to your grand opening.

1588
01:45:01,254 --> 01:45:02,454
And I know you're going to be a wonderful member

1589
01:45:02,454 --> 01:45:05,499
of the community, so thank you. So much. Yes, everyone

1590
01:45:05,499 --> 01:45:07,459
has said it so. So well, a lot of halos

1591
01:45:07,459 --> 01:45:09,739
pride too. Thank you so. Much. We're excited to have

1592
01:45:09,739 --> 01:45:12,299
you here. And with that, can I get a second

1593
01:45:12,299 --> 01:45:17,590
on? The motion. Okay. Second by the vice mayor. And

1594
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:21,741
let's go ahead and vote. Improved unanimously. Thank you so

1595
01:45:21,741 --> 01:45:25,541
much. We appreciate you. Looking forward to Northgate. Moving on

1596
01:45:25,541 --> 01:45:34,140
to item. Nine administrative reports. We have item 9.1 request

1597
01:45:34,140 --> 01:45:37,820
from Vice Mayor west speak to explore cordon pricing for

1598
01:45:37,820 --> 01:45:40,980
the Green river road Foothill Parkway corridor. I think we

1599
01:45:40,980 --> 01:45:44,940
have Msudenyo city traffic engineer who's going to present this

1600
01:45:44,940 --> 01:45:52,679
item. Hi. Good evening. All right, so good evening, mayor

1601
01:45:52,679 --> 01:45:55,799
and council members. Today I'll be presenting the request from

1602
01:45:55,799 --> 01:45:58,559
vice mayor speak to explore cordon pricing program for the

1603
01:45:58,559 --> 01:46:02,239
Green River Road Foothill Parkway corridor I'm Rosie Reno, and

1604
01:46:02,239 --> 01:46:09,603
with me today is. Leah Colemar, associate engineer so together,

1605
01:46:09,603 --> 01:46:12,043
we're going to try to provide it and make it

1606
01:46:12,043 --> 01:46:16,751
nice and brief presentation. So the purpose for this discussion

1607
01:46:16,751 --> 01:46:19,431
is to seek your direction on whether the city should

1608
01:46:19,431 --> 01:46:23,111
explore implementing a cordon pricing program to deter cut through

1609
01:46:23,111 --> 01:46:28,012
traffic along Green River Road in Foothill Parkway. On October

1610
01:46:28,012 --> 01:46:31,892
14, 2025, Vice Mayor speak requested staff to explore this

1611
01:46:31,892 --> 01:46:34,812
concept. The idea is to charge a fee to vehicles

1612
01:46:34,812 --> 01:46:38,132
entering and exiting the city from the SR 91 and

1613
01:46:38,132 --> 01:46:40,772
I 15 within a set time frame. The goal is

1614
01:46:40,772 --> 01:46:43,852
to reduce congestion caused by motorists cutting to the corona.

1615
01:46:43,852 --> 01:46:49,128
To avoid freeway traffic. Corona residents would be exempt from

1616
01:46:49,128 --> 01:46:53,048
these fees. The feasibility study for the coron pricing program

1617
01:46:53,048 --> 01:46:55,448
will check its legality along Green river and Foot Hill

1618
01:46:55,448 --> 01:47:00,421
Parkway. And freeway connections. Monitor other city programs and find

1619
01:47:00,421 --> 01:47:03,901
funding options from regional projects and determine potential revenue and

1620
01:47:03,901 --> 01:47:13,283
expenses. So I'll turn it over to Leah. Hi. So

1621
01:47:13,283 --> 01:47:16,683
I'd like to just take a couple minutes to talk

1622
01:47:16,683 --> 01:47:19,603
about what the difference between cordon pricing and toll roads

1623
01:47:19,603 --> 01:47:27,333
are. So cord on pricing is a dynamic based.

1624
01:47:29,580 --> 01:47:33,900
Pricing system used during periods of heavy traffic, motorists entering

1625
01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:37,860
and exiting a designated zone, pay a fee. It's primarily

1626
01:47:37,860 --> 01:47:42,540
installed to manage traffic demand, reduce congestion, and improve air

1627
01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:47,620
quality, while encouraging alternative modes of transportation to zone users.

1628
01:47:47,620 --> 01:47:52,370
For example, New York City implemented court on pricing in

1629
01:47:52,370 --> 01:47:56,810
2025 for a portion of Manhattan. The zone is clearly

1630
01:47:56,810 --> 01:48:00,695
defined. And entrance and exits into the zone have a

1631
01:48:00,695 --> 01:48:05,409
fee collection equipment. A toll road, on the other hand,

1632
01:48:05,409 --> 01:48:12,777
applies to specific roads, highways, bridges, tunnels. It is primarily

1633
01:48:12,777 --> 01:48:18,377
installed to generate revenue for roadway construction, maintenance and operations.

1634
01:48:18,377 --> 01:48:21,617
Some examples you might be familiar with are the 91

1635
01:48:21,617 --> 01:48:27,250
Express lanes, SR 73. 17 miles pebble pebble beach and

1636
01:48:27,250 --> 01:48:31,798
sr 241. So just to compare them side by side

1637
01:48:31,798 --> 01:48:37,743
so we all are on the same page. The primary

1638
01:48:37,743 --> 01:48:40,543
goal of cordon pricing is to manage traffic demand and

1639
01:48:40,543 --> 01:48:45,383
reduce congestion, emissions and noise. In specific dense urban areas

1640
01:48:45,383 --> 01:48:48,383
where toll road aims to generate revenue for the construction,

1641
01:48:48,383 --> 01:48:52,063
maintenance and operations of the segment. The area of effect

1642
01:48:52,063 --> 01:48:55,783
for cordon pricing is more of a zone boundary where

1643
01:48:55,783 --> 01:48:58,722
a toll applies to. A specific road, and drivers pay

1644
01:48:58,722 --> 01:49:02,362
for the privilege of using that road. The fee structure

1645
01:49:02,362 --> 01:49:05,122
for court on pricing typically has different fees for entering

1646
01:49:05,122 --> 01:49:07,762
that zone at specific times of day and the toll

1647
01:49:07,762 --> 01:49:11,362
road is a fee for a distance travel. For a

1648
01:49:11,362 --> 01:49:15,376
specific time of day. Examples of fully implemented cord on

1649
01:49:15,376 --> 01:49:19,656
pricing programs are currently only international, such as London, Stockholm

1650
01:49:19,656 --> 01:49:24,043
and Singapore. Toll roads can be found internationally as well

1651
01:49:24,043 --> 01:49:28,650
as all over the United States. Potential impacts of cordon

1652
01:49:28,650 --> 01:49:33,130
pricing include the encouragement of public transit, cycling, and walking

1653
01:49:33,130 --> 01:49:35,450
within the city center, while a toll road provides a

1654
01:49:35,450 --> 01:49:39,050
potentially faster travel option to get from point a to

1655
01:49:39,050 --> 01:49:43,525
point b. Now I'd like to explore some of the

1656
01:49:43,525 --> 01:49:49,588
preliminary. Review that I've done of a couple of case

1657
01:49:49,588 --> 01:49:53,963
studies. In san francisco, la metro and new york city.

1658
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:59,960
San Francisco. The study is currently on pause. They has

1659
01:49:59,960 --> 01:50:05,972
a various fee structure to look at. And the study.

1660
01:50:05,972 --> 01:50:08,652
The reason why it's been paused is they've stated in

1661
01:50:08,652 --> 01:50:12,812
light. Of the changing in fluid conditions surrounding traffic conditions

1662
01:50:12,812 --> 01:50:16,698
and transit use. And if this program ends up going

1663
01:50:16,698 --> 01:50:19,978
through, they have a five year phased approach. But again,

1664
01:50:21,377 --> 01:50:26,084
It's still being reviewed. Another case study is Los Angeles.

1665
01:50:28,483 --> 01:50:33,937
They are refining concepts with three different. Potential options. They're

1666
01:50:33,937 --> 01:50:40,506
getting feedback from. The community. To see how everybody is

1667
01:50:40,506 --> 01:50:44,266
feeling about that. And they're forecasted to open in 2028.

1668
01:50:45,691 --> 01:50:52,248
For new york. That was actually implemented in early 2025.

1669
01:50:53,710 --> 01:50:58,070
They have a various fee structure and they are currently

1670
01:50:58,070 --> 01:51:02,675
in phase one of. A long process to fully implement

1671
01:51:02,675 --> 01:51:10,878
by 2031. This program actually has various lawsuits against. Congestion

1672
01:51:10,878 --> 01:51:14,562
pricing, and it's currently in review by the courts. One

1673
01:51:14,562 --> 01:51:19,714
involving the current federal administration. There's a few case studies

1674
01:51:19,714 --> 01:51:28,615
around the world. And this image just shows you existing.

1675
01:51:30,398 --> 01:51:34,438
Pricing systems and other places that are considering or that

1676
01:51:34,438 --> 01:51:39,444
have implemented it. So what does court on pricing look

1677
01:51:39,444 --> 01:51:48,559
like in Corona? The concept involves installing toll collection equipment.

1678
01:51:50,402 --> 01:51:53,962
In strategic locations where drivers commonly enter the city to

1679
01:51:53,962 --> 01:51:59,262
avoid freeway congestion. These include primarily the Green River. And

1680
01:51:59,262 --> 01:52:02,422
surface club on ramps, as well as ramps near the

1681
01:52:02,422 --> 01:52:05,462
southern end of the city, including Magnolia Avenue, Ontario Avenue

1682
01:52:05,462 --> 01:52:09,502
and Foothill Parkway. As noted earlier, vice mayors speak envision.

1683
01:52:11,164 --> 01:52:15,169
An exception to Corona residents. So some factors to consider

1684
01:52:15,169 --> 01:52:20,689
before looking into this type of program, some legal considerations,

1685
01:52:20,689 --> 01:52:27,564
federal restrictions on tolling highways may require. Possible legislation. Further

1686
01:52:27,564 --> 01:52:30,924
investigation from a procure consultant and the city's legal team

1687
01:52:30,924 --> 01:52:35,929
will be needed. A strong public transportation system and infrastructure.

1688
01:52:35,929 --> 01:52:38,449
Our public transit system is limited compared to the cities

1689
01:52:38,449 --> 01:52:41,089
with successful programs. So that is something we would have

1690
01:52:41,089 --> 01:52:48,968
to consider. Robust fee to collection technology. And fee collection

1691
01:52:48,968 --> 01:52:51,328
systems are essential. The city would need to partner with

1692
01:52:51,328 --> 01:52:54,728
a vendor capable of identifying vehicles and verifying resident exemptions.

1693
01:52:56,650 --> 01:53:00,730
Number four corridor versus zone. Unlike a downtown zone, Green

1694
01:53:00,730 --> 01:53:05,050
River Road and Foothorkway is a corridor, making enforcement complex.

1695
01:53:05,050 --> 01:53:08,810
Determining which access points trigger fees will require careful planning

1696
01:53:08,810 --> 01:53:12,050
to avoid unintended impacts to our residents and our adjacent

1697
01:53:12,050 --> 01:53:16,972
roadways. Economic impact. Reduced pass through traffic can negatively affect

1698
01:53:16,972 --> 01:53:25,841
our local businesses. Financial sustainability and pricing schedule that advances

1699
01:53:25,841 --> 01:53:30,776
equity. Full exemptions for residents may struggle to self support

1700
01:53:30,776 --> 01:53:34,496
this program. Other cities typically offer partial discounts rather than

1701
01:53:34,496 --> 01:53:39,336
full exemptions and coordination. Collaboration with Caltrans and neighboring agencies

1702
01:53:39,336 --> 01:53:45,247
is critical. For equipment placement and regional traffic management. So

1703
01:53:45,247 --> 01:53:48,607
today we're seeking your direction on three options. Option a,

1704
01:53:48,607 --> 01:53:56,413
status quo. Keep no additional resources and fundings required. Option

1705
01:53:56,413 --> 01:54:00,210
b. Option B would be wait to and observe, learn

1706
01:54:00,210 --> 01:54:02,850
from the other cities as they're implementing. And fine tuning

1707
01:54:02,850 --> 01:54:06,370
the programs, and we can revisit this topic later. Or

1708
01:54:06,370 --> 01:54:10,431
option C, prepare a focus case study. This would include

1709
01:54:10,431 --> 01:54:15,111
procuring a consultant to analyze the legality, constrictibility and strategy.

1710
01:54:15,111 --> 01:54:17,711
Estimated cost for a study like this would be anywhere

1711
01:54:17,711 --> 01:54:20,631
in the 300 to 600,000 range, which we do not

1712
01:54:20,631 --> 01:54:25,267
have budget today. So, in summary, court on pricing could

1713
01:54:25,267 --> 01:54:27,827
help reduce cut through traffic, but it has the potential

1714
01:54:27,827 --> 01:54:31,827
to become with significant legal, financial, and operational challenges. In

1715
01:54:31,827 --> 01:54:36,140
addition. To unintended consequences that may have an impact on

1716
01:54:36,140 --> 01:54:39,260
our businesses and residents. We request your direction on the

1717
01:54:39,260 --> 01:54:43,340
options presented. Thank you very much for the presentation. I'll

1718
01:54:43,340 --> 01:54:45,860
bring it back. To my colleagues for clarifying questions. Go

1719
01:54:45,860 --> 01:54:48,980
ahead. Yeah. Thank you. Can you go back to the

1720
01:54:48,980 --> 01:54:52,124
decision slide. I want to describe kind of where this

1721
01:54:52,124 --> 01:54:56,485
came from a few years ago. There was a bill

1722
01:54:56,485 --> 01:55:01,884
that. Provided. The case that ease the options to locations

1723
01:55:01,884 --> 01:55:05,684
in northern California, two locations in southern California and I

1724
01:55:05,684 --> 01:55:08,324
had seen these go forward. I talked to a couple

1725
01:55:08,324 --> 01:55:11,284
of folks in Los Angeles that were producing this, and

1726
01:55:11,284 --> 01:55:13,975
at the time. I thought, oh, my gosh, this is

1727
01:55:13,975 --> 01:55:16,495
crazy that you're going to have to pay. To drive

1728
01:55:16,495 --> 01:55:21,837
downtown that I was working downtown. But as I started

1729
01:55:21,837 --> 01:55:25,813
walking neighborhoods. In the south side of town. And when

1730
01:55:25,813 --> 01:55:30,027
people tell me that they can't leave. Their house between

1731
01:55:30,027 --> 01:55:33,187
two and 05:00 in the afternoon, I started thinking, well,

1732
01:55:33,187 --> 01:55:35,747
maybe there's. A different. Could have a different idea, different

1733
01:55:35,747 --> 01:55:40,772
plan, and I know that. Recently as part of the

1734
01:55:40,772 --> 01:55:44,212
91 EcOP project and the 241 91 project that we're

1735
01:55:44,212 --> 01:55:49,327
capturing license plate data. And it got me thinking. About.

1736
01:55:50,684 --> 01:55:54,708
Look. We can't avoid it. The state's not going to

1737
01:55:54,708 --> 01:55:56,988
improve the freeway we've tweaked as much as we can.

1738
01:55:59,132 --> 01:56:02,492
There may be a possibility for adding a third toll

1739
01:56:02,492 --> 01:56:09,527
lane. But coron. Corona's surface streets. Live and die based

1740
01:56:09,527 --> 01:56:13,147
on how well the freeway works. And we're not in

1741
01:56:13,147 --> 01:56:15,027
control of that. We're not in control of the freeway.

1742
01:56:15,027 --> 01:56:19,147
Investments. We're not in control of the 40,000 units that

1743
01:56:19,147 --> 01:56:23,086
have been approved south and east of us. So I'm

1744
01:56:23,086 --> 01:56:25,806
looking for ideas so I'm looking for ideas for finding

1745
01:56:25,806 --> 01:56:29,404
ways to keep people on the freeway. So this idea

1746
01:56:29,404 --> 01:56:33,574
is that 100%, knowing that right now, They're still in

1747
01:56:33,574 --> 01:56:36,374
a case study. That project would have to go back

1748
01:56:36,374 --> 01:56:41,409
to the legislature. To be approved. I know that. Previous

1749
01:56:41,409 --> 01:56:44,513
counsel asked a question. Whether or not. And the answer

1750
01:56:44,513 --> 01:56:47,033
came back that although the city didn't own the roads,

1751
01:56:47,033 --> 01:56:50,273
and frankly, the city doesn't. No city owns any roads

1752
01:56:50,273 --> 01:56:53,359
because. They own them, but they are all funded by

1753
01:56:53,359 --> 01:56:55,799
gas tax and all other fun stuff, so there's always

1754
01:56:55,799 --> 01:56:58,879
commingling. But with this case study and the possibility of

1755
01:56:58,879 --> 01:57:01,639
this becoming a law. I want to be in a

1756
01:57:01,639 --> 01:57:06,364
position that if something changes. That we put a flag

1757
01:57:06,364 --> 01:57:08,124
in the ground to try and find a way to

1758
01:57:08,124 --> 01:57:12,766
make this work. So I'm not in favor of. Preparing

1759
01:57:12,766 --> 01:57:14,286
a case study because I think right now there's still

1760
01:57:14,286 --> 01:57:16,166
a lot of things up. In the air. But I

1761
01:57:16,166 --> 01:57:18,486
do want to keep this open as an idea because

1762
01:57:18,486 --> 01:57:23,118
we need to. Find other tools. And grasping at straws

1763
01:57:23,118 --> 01:57:28,599
because we only have so many tools. Between. AI, traffic

1764
01:57:28,599 --> 01:57:32,359
signals and all the other tweaks that we're doing, we

1765
01:57:32,359 --> 01:57:34,919
have to have some other tools in our toolbox. Whether

1766
01:57:34,919 --> 01:57:39,149
or not the legislature will let us do this. Who

1767
01:57:39,149 --> 01:57:42,759
knows? And yes, 100%, there are a lot of. Operational

1768
01:57:42,759 --> 01:57:46,119
questions that can come from that. But I think that

1769
01:57:46,119 --> 01:57:51,800
as time goes on, The freeways get worse. I think

1770
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:56,204
we need other options. So I'm advocating for a wait

1771
01:57:56,204 --> 01:57:59,484
and observe that we continue to watch how these other

1772
01:57:59,484 --> 01:58:05,124
projects go that we work with Caltrans and with RCTC

1773
01:58:05,124 --> 01:58:07,964
to keep measuring what we've said they were going to

1774
01:58:07,964 --> 01:58:14,211
measure. I know. TCA has promised that they will compensate

1775
01:58:14,211 --> 01:58:17,011
us if there are issues based on their project and

1776
01:58:17,011 --> 01:58:18,971
I think we all think there will be. And whether

1777
01:58:18,971 --> 01:58:22,451
or not that money can be used to help move

1778
01:58:22,451 --> 01:58:27,647
this forward again, if legislatively this moved on so. This

1779
01:58:27,647 --> 01:58:31,609
is basically a move. I see on the west side

1780
01:58:31,609 --> 01:58:34,456
of town in the morning where. There's cars that back

1781
01:58:34,456 --> 01:58:37,334
up on every single street. And then in the afternoon,

1782
01:58:37,334 --> 01:58:40,894
where cars are driving down 40 miles an hour down

1783
01:58:40,894 --> 01:58:44,732
residential streets, That's just wrong. And if we can find

1784
01:58:44,732 --> 01:58:48,900
a way to deter that, and I think. That charging

1785
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:51,460
a toll to you have to do both enter and

1786
01:58:51,460 --> 01:58:55,734
exit. Not just exit or enter. That may be a

1787
01:58:55,734 --> 01:58:59,531
possibility in the future, but. I am fully in favor

1788
01:58:59,531 --> 01:59:02,938
of. The weight and observe and keep our options open

1789
01:59:02,938 --> 01:59:04,258
to see if we can plan a flag in the

1790
01:59:04,258 --> 01:59:07,178
ground for something that could come forward. Thank you, Vice

1791
01:59:07,178 --> 01:59:10,568
mayor. I wanted to first start with clarifying questions because

1792
01:59:10,568 --> 01:59:12,048
I do want to go to the public. On comments

1793
01:59:12,048 --> 01:59:13,968
on this, but do you all have any clarifying questions?

1794
01:59:15,366 --> 01:59:17,446
Comments? Yeah, I think we all do. So we'll come

1795
01:59:17,446 --> 01:59:21,079
back for comments. Go ahead and take a seat. We're

1796
01:59:21,079 --> 01:59:24,668
going to take some public comments. Thank you so much.

1797
01:59:26,459 --> 01:59:28,499
Miss Edwards, are there any speaker cards from the public

1798
01:59:28,499 --> 01:59:30,859
on this item? Yes, we have three speaker cards for

1799
01:59:30,859 --> 01:59:35,864
this item. Okay, come on down. Speakers. Hi again. I'm

1800
01:59:35,864 --> 01:59:43,859
not smart enough to know anything about this. If I'm

1801
01:59:43,859 --> 01:59:49,419
speaking. I wish whoever does the PowerPoint would make the

1802
01:59:49,419 --> 01:59:54,339
letters big enough. And the contrast sufficient so that those

1803
01:59:54,339 --> 01:59:57,739
of us sitting in the room can read the damn

1804
01:59:57,739 --> 02:00:00,779
thing. Thank you. Noted. Thank you, Mr. Fuller.

1805
02:00:07,884 --> 02:00:16,610
To back up Mr. Fuller. I'm going to be turned

1806
02:00:16,610 --> 02:00:21,810
60 next month. And, yeah, I cannot see them at

1807
02:00:21,810 --> 02:00:25,930
all. And I got brand new glasses on, so please

1808
02:00:25,930 --> 02:00:27,930
let's make sure that we can see anything that's up

1809
02:00:27,930 --> 02:00:31,115
there. I'm just going to give you some public notes

1810
02:00:31,115 --> 02:00:34,921
on this. I think it should be b or a.

1811
02:00:37,246 --> 02:00:39,286
I was reading in the staff report, and it still

1812
02:00:39,286 --> 02:00:44,331
has in here. Regarding the fee exception currently recommended by

1813
02:00:44,331 --> 02:00:47,571
vice mayor speak other cities use a 50% or less

1814
02:00:47,571 --> 02:00:51,322
discount. I think we need to pull everything out of

1815
02:00:51,322 --> 02:00:54,922
that. Except for that residents aren't going to be charged.

1816
02:00:54,922 --> 02:00:57,042
And there's a caveat in there that while this might

1817
02:00:57,042 --> 02:01:00,585
not make financial sense if we don't do that. Well,

1818
02:01:00,585 --> 02:01:04,174
then hang it. We shouldn't do it because. I shouldn't

1819
02:01:04,174 --> 02:01:06,174
be charged to drive on my own streets. And if

1820
02:01:06,174 --> 02:01:10,459
I want to use that shortcut. It's my street. It's

1821
02:01:10,459 --> 02:01:14,259
their street. It's our street. We should be able to

1822
02:01:14,259 --> 02:01:17,139
use it however we want because we live here. And

1823
02:01:17,139 --> 02:01:20,499
if I want to take green, river to Ontario, then

1824
02:01:20,499 --> 02:01:24,243
I should. So that's my opinion on that. I don't

1825
02:01:24,243 --> 02:01:25,843
think that I should be charged. To drive in my

1826
02:01:25,843 --> 02:01:29,003
own city because I pay a lot of taxes here

1827
02:01:29,003 --> 02:01:31,203
and I pay a lot of fees here, and I

1828
02:01:31,203 --> 02:01:34,523
think that that's only fair. Now, the other thing that

1829
02:01:34,523 --> 02:01:38,535
I would bring up on this is that. I don't

1830
02:01:38,535 --> 02:01:40,335
see this as something we should be spending three or

1831
02:01:40,335 --> 02:01:44,381
$600,000. On down the road either. We've already done studies

1832
02:01:44,381 --> 02:01:47,821
on this. We've already had two surveys done. We know.

1833
02:01:47,821 --> 02:01:49,461
About where we need to be on this. So I

1834
02:01:49,461 --> 02:01:51,581
think when we get to the point that we're ready

1835
02:01:51,581 --> 02:01:55,065
to do this if we get to that point. I

1836
02:01:55,065 --> 02:01:57,385
don't see us having to spend this ton of money

1837
02:01:57,385 --> 02:01:59,745
on that. I think it should be spent on whatever

1838
02:01:59,745 --> 02:02:01,625
group is going to come in and implement this for

1839
02:02:01,625 --> 02:02:03,465
us and put in the polling pieces at the end.

1840
02:02:04,978 --> 02:02:08,533
The toll booths or whatever we're going to use. And

1841
02:02:08,533 --> 02:02:12,878
finally. I don't see this as being workable, because I

1842
02:02:12,878 --> 02:02:16,158
think if we say, okay, well. You can't take foothill.

1843
02:02:16,158 --> 02:02:18,598
They're just going to use other areas. And where? I

1844
02:02:18,598 --> 02:02:23,424
live in district three, 9th in Howard. To your point,

1845
02:02:23,424 --> 02:02:27,075
Wes in the morning. They're still blasting through there at

1846
02:02:27,075 --> 02:02:29,915
40 miles an hour because they want to bypass six.

1847
02:02:29,915 --> 02:02:32,315
They want to bypass everything. They want to get to

1848
02:02:32,315 --> 02:02:33,555
the end of the street, and they want to jump

1849
02:02:33,555 --> 02:02:35,955
back on 6th and take the freeway and grab that

1850
02:02:35,955 --> 02:02:38,675
entrance. Nothing is going to stop. That unless we do

1851
02:02:38,675 --> 02:02:42,254
it for every road in town, which is impossible. So

1852
02:02:42,254 --> 02:02:46,817
I don't see this as being something that's viable. Could

1853
02:02:46,817 --> 02:02:50,137
perhaps the corridor reduce that or encourage people to use

1854
02:02:50,137 --> 02:02:52,497
the corridor and pay for it instead. Of everything else.

1855
02:02:54,041 --> 02:02:57,830
Maybe. But I think the majority of people are going

1856
02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:59,670
to just go, I'm just going to find another route.

1857
02:03:01,172 --> 02:03:02,932
And this is going to be a waste of half

1858
02:03:02,932 --> 02:03:05,252
a million dollars or whatever it's going to be. And

1859
02:03:05,252 --> 02:03:07,292
we're still going to have the same idiots racing down

1860
02:03:07,292 --> 02:03:10,732
our streets. The only answer there is enforcement. CPD does

1861
02:03:10,732 --> 02:03:12,972
a great job, but we need to give them the

1862
02:03:12,972 --> 02:03:18,742
resources. Instead of this. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, next

1863
02:03:18,742 --> 02:03:25,779
speaker. You're getting old, Chris. It's interesting because I remember

1864
02:03:25,779 --> 02:03:29,099
when Foothill opened, it was supposed to take traffic off.

1865
02:03:29,099 --> 02:03:37,631
Of Ontario. And now it's the traffic source, it's the

1866
02:03:37,631 --> 02:03:42,475
problem. I see in the morning sometimes going westbound. It's

1867
02:03:42,475 --> 02:03:44,675
kind of crowded. It's crowded by the high schools, mostly

1868
02:03:44,675 --> 02:03:48,540
because of the high school. It seems like all these

1869
02:03:48,540 --> 02:03:55,940
bad decisions between 6th Street. And this is all driven

1870
02:03:55,940 --> 02:03:59,820
by this weird sort of, almost like a junior xenophobic

1871
02:03:59,820 --> 02:04:02,180
kind. Of. Oh, it's the outsiders. It's the cut through

1872
02:04:02,180 --> 02:04:05,540
people. Every city in Southern California is next to another

1873
02:04:05,540 --> 02:04:09,133
city in Southern California. That's how it works. All the

1874
02:04:09,133 --> 02:04:12,293
way from the beach, all the way back out to.

1875
02:04:12,293 --> 02:04:16,613
San Bernardino. Every city is next to another city. Everybody

1876
02:04:16,613 --> 02:04:18,813
cuts through some city to get to some. Other city,

1877
02:04:18,813 --> 02:04:21,653
but every presentation I've ever heard seems like it's pretty

1878
02:04:21,653 --> 02:04:25,641
insignificant number. Of people. That traverse the city just to

1879
02:04:25,641 --> 02:04:30,910
get to another city entirely. Who you're talking about. Are

1880
02:04:30,910 --> 02:04:34,230
my friends that live in El Serrito who work on

1881
02:04:34,230 --> 02:04:36,670
6th street and drive del Serrito. I guess technically they're

1882
02:04:36,670 --> 02:04:41,357
not corona people. There's still local members of the community.

1883
02:04:41,357 --> 02:04:43,637
They work here. The kids go to school here. They

1884
02:04:43,637 --> 02:04:45,317
pay taxes here even if they don't live in the

1885
02:04:45,317 --> 02:04:49,734
city limits. They use our utilities. They're part of the

1886
02:04:49,734 --> 02:04:52,866
community. Who the hell are you talking about? Who's the

1887
02:04:52,866 --> 02:04:57,580
cut through people? It's like this unicorn person that somebody

1888
02:04:57,580 --> 02:05:00,420
lives down in Myrietta who's calculated it out, they could

1889
02:05:00,420 --> 02:05:03,660
save 30 seconds taking foothill. So they're going to exit.

1890
02:05:03,660 --> 02:05:08,278
And then cut. Through. Good luck in the afternoon. You're

1891
02:05:08,278 --> 02:05:11,793
almost better off on the 91 and the 15. And

1892
02:05:11,793 --> 02:05:14,913
every one of these little stunts just throws the traffic

1893
02:05:14,913 --> 02:05:19,825
somewhere else. It just throws it onto another street. So

1894
02:05:19,825 --> 02:05:22,425
you charge people to drive on Foothill? They're. Going to

1895
02:05:22,425 --> 02:05:24,465
end up back on Ontario. I thought the whole point

1896
02:05:24,465 --> 02:05:27,505
of Plevin Fodill was to take people off Ontario. At

1897
02:05:27,505 --> 02:05:29,305
least that's what the stated purpose was. At the time.

1898
02:05:31,003 --> 02:05:32,643
It's almost like this is a stunt for an election

1899
02:05:32,643 --> 02:05:36,603
year. It's almost like. You want to be seen talking

1900
02:05:36,603 --> 02:05:42,815
about traffic. It's almost that way. I think generally we

1901
02:05:42,815 --> 02:05:45,815
agree on more than we disagree more than we disagree

1902
02:05:45,815 --> 02:05:49,221
on a lot of things. But this is just. You

1903
02:05:49,221 --> 02:05:51,461
can see it. It's just all the red lights flashing

1904
02:05:51,461 --> 02:05:53,501
about. This as just being a stupid idea. Thank you

1905
02:05:53,501 --> 02:05:56,221
very much. Thank you. Are there any other speaker? Cards

1906
02:05:56,221 --> 02:05:59,460
for this item. Mayor, we do not have any more

1907
02:05:59,460 --> 02:06:02,620
speaker cards. Okay, let's bring it back up to the

1908
02:06:02,620 --> 02:06:06,860
dice. My colleagues on comments. Go ahead. Thank you, mayor.

1909
02:06:09,034 --> 02:06:11,674
I actually think this is a fantastic idea. I love

1910
02:06:11,674 --> 02:06:17,626
the fact of making anybody that's driving. From. Driving northbound

1911
02:06:17,626 --> 02:06:21,906
on the 15 from anywhere south of Corona that wants

1912
02:06:21,906 --> 02:06:26,586
to cut through on Foothill. And to the 91 freeway

1913
02:06:26,586 --> 02:06:28,346
that we charge them for it. I love the fact

1914
02:06:28,346 --> 02:06:32,466
that we were thinking about that. We are thinking about

1915
02:06:32,466 --> 02:06:35,859
this as let's wait and see. When Ms. Rosie has

1916
02:06:35,859 --> 02:06:38,299
to go international to find other people that are doing

1917
02:06:38,299 --> 02:06:42,619
this. While I appreciate it. That's probably not very helpful,

1918
02:06:42,619 --> 02:06:44,219
but I like the fact that there are people in

1919
02:06:44,219 --> 02:06:47,941
northern California that are thinking about this. And let's let

1920
02:06:47,941 --> 02:06:49,901
them be the guinea pig, and let's let them go

1921
02:06:49,901 --> 02:06:51,701
through. All the lawsuits and figure out how this is

1922
02:06:51,701 --> 02:06:54,461
going to work. But I do have concerns that people

1923
02:06:54,461 --> 02:06:58,708
are just going to. Obviously go three exits or four

1924
02:06:58,708 --> 02:07:01,668
exits and weave their way through regular streets of Corona.

1925
02:07:01,668 --> 02:07:04,268
So how do we make it painful for them? I

1926
02:07:04,268 --> 02:07:06,828
want them off of foothill. And if they really. Want

1927
02:07:06,828 --> 02:07:09,028
to do it? Let's charge them for it. Keep that

1928
02:07:09,028 --> 02:07:11,548
money here in the city. And keep it free of

1929
02:07:11,548 --> 02:07:15,428
congestion for our residents. But it's almost like we have

1930
02:07:15,428 --> 02:07:20,159
to do. This pass through pricing, cordon pricing for all

1931
02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:23,679
of corona to make it so painful that they just

1932
02:07:23,679 --> 02:07:26,159
stay on the freeway, right? Because I don't want to

1933
02:07:26,159 --> 02:07:29,279
burden any other street with people that are like, well,

1934
02:07:31,027 --> 02:07:32,307
I'm going to not pay to go on foothill, so

1935
02:07:32,307 --> 02:07:35,827
I'll just drive. Through neighborhoods, which is naturally what they're

1936
02:07:35,827 --> 02:07:37,347
going to do. They're just going to try and figure

1937
02:07:37,347 --> 02:07:39,747
out another way, so I don't want to burden any

1938
02:07:39,747 --> 02:07:43,150
other streets. So we would have to figure out a

1939
02:07:43,150 --> 02:07:46,550
way to just make all of corona cord on pricing.

1940
02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:48,710
If you get off the freeway, don't start any rumors.

1941
02:07:50,434 --> 02:07:53,017
I think that's the idea. It's not about a street.

1942
02:07:54,605 --> 02:07:57,765
It's about if you exit and you enter and exit.

1943
02:07:58,975 --> 02:08:00,095
So it wouldn't matter what street you went on, so

1944
02:08:00,095 --> 02:08:02,495
it wouldn't push people. To any other street. I talked

1945
02:08:02,495 --> 02:08:05,975
to a resident that lives on Ontario and was worried

1946
02:08:05,975 --> 02:08:08,215
that he was going to get saddled again with what

1947
02:08:08,215 --> 02:08:11,255
was going on before foothill. I said the idea would

1948
02:08:11,255 --> 02:08:13,615
be to keep people on the street. If you got

1949
02:08:13,615 --> 02:08:15,695
off the freeway, you would not. Be charged. If you

1950
02:08:15,695 --> 02:08:17,575
got off the freeway and on the freeway, you would

1951
02:08:17,575 --> 02:08:20,659
be charged. So you have to hit both gates in

1952
02:08:20,659 --> 02:08:24,383
order to be charged. So again, the idea is to

1953
02:08:24,383 --> 02:08:28,125
wait and see how this works out. And monitor the

1954
02:08:28,125 --> 02:08:31,975
situation. We have good street light data now that we're

1955
02:08:31,975 --> 02:08:35,215
going to be keeping track of, especially as these two

1956
02:08:35,215 --> 02:08:37,575
huge projects are going to impact the city of Corona.

1957
02:08:39,135 --> 02:08:40,775
There's no if, ands or buts about it. All the

1958
02:08:40,775 --> 02:08:45,295
designs, all the modeling says this will impact corona period.

1959
02:08:46,731 --> 02:08:49,814
There's not a guess. So it's going to happen. So

1960
02:08:49,814 --> 02:08:51,134
I want to have, like I said, another tool in

1961
02:08:51,134 --> 02:08:53,454
the toolbox. Yeah, let's. Let somebody else deal with the

1962
02:08:53,454 --> 02:08:56,014
lawsuits, and then once they figure all that out, let's

1963
02:08:56,014 --> 02:08:58,414
wait and see and see how we can make it

1964
02:08:58,414 --> 02:09:01,814
work for corona, if it works at all. Thanks. Council

1965
02:09:01,814 --> 02:09:06,608
member Richard thank you, mayor. I'm still convinced that the

1966
02:09:06,608 --> 02:09:12,176
toll road project. Back in 2014 through 16 through whenever.

1967
02:09:13,961 --> 02:09:15,881
It's probably the worst project that ever happened to our

1968
02:09:15,881 --> 02:09:21,283
city, so I'm very anti till roads, but. I also

1969
02:09:21,283 --> 02:09:23,283
do like to learn about options, and I'm wait and

1970
02:09:23,283 --> 02:09:27,476
see. I just don't like toll roads. But if there's

1971
02:09:27,476 --> 02:09:30,984
a point in time. And it's in the future where

1972
02:09:30,984 --> 02:09:34,584
it's a tool that we need, then let that council.

1973
02:09:34,584 --> 02:09:39,280
Deal with it then. But I still enjoyed learning about

1974
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:43,360
it. And I do like to have tools. Thank you.

1975
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:47,075
Thank you, mayor. Do you preferably the yellow kind? Go

1976
02:09:47,075 --> 02:09:51,443
ahead. Council member Sainer. Well, I made a few notes.

1977
02:09:53,089 --> 02:09:56,814
So I am concerned about the business impact. What if

1978
02:09:56,814 --> 02:09:59,694
I'm coming back to Corona or wherever I'm going to,

1979
02:09:59,694 --> 02:10:01,614
and I. Want to get off the freeway and grab

1980
02:10:01,614 --> 02:10:03,694
a burger at McDonald's and get back on. The freeway.

1981
02:10:03,694 --> 02:10:07,807
While I'm not going to probably do that, So that's

1982
02:10:07,807 --> 02:10:12,167
affecting our businesses. What about deliveries? All the deliveries that

1983
02:10:12,167 --> 02:10:15,687
come into corona to deliver to Northgate or wherever else.

1984
02:10:17,358 --> 02:10:19,358
I just think there's too much to. If you have

1985
02:10:19,358 --> 02:10:23,795
to explain it too much? It's not. Probably a good

1986
02:10:23,795 --> 02:10:26,475
project to do. I'm not willing to spend that. Much

1987
02:10:26,475 --> 02:10:28,755
money to do it, to study it further right now.

1988
02:10:30,175 --> 02:10:33,175
I am worried about traffic being diverted back on Ontario.

1989
02:10:33,175 --> 02:10:36,495
I talked to a former public works for Cronin, who

1990
02:10:36,495 --> 02:10:39,695
lives on West Ontario, and he was like, oh, man,

1991
02:10:39,695 --> 02:10:43,175
we can't. Divert traffic back to Ontario, because I think

1992
02:10:43,175 --> 02:10:45,775
most of us have lived through that. And remember what

1993
02:10:45,775 --> 02:10:48,135
that was like people literally not being able to get

1994
02:10:48,135 --> 02:10:52,326
out of the driveways that lived on. West ontario. Yeah.

1995
02:10:52,326 --> 02:10:55,846
I mean, the studies, San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles,

1996
02:10:55,846 --> 02:11:00,959
weren't none of that. So I'm option a, do not

1997
02:11:00,959 --> 02:11:03,719
proceed. Which is not really much different than option b.

1998
02:11:03,719 --> 02:11:06,759
Because I think what's going to happen is when the

1999
02:11:06,759 --> 02:11:09,759
different AI technologies come out there's. Going to be maybe

2000
02:11:09,759 --> 02:11:14,728
some. Opportunities to say, oh, that is so much better

2001
02:11:14,728 --> 02:11:18,048
than what we were talking about, maybe doing years. Ago,

2002
02:11:18,048 --> 02:11:22,738
so I'm option a. Do not proceed. Thank you. I

2003
02:11:22,738 --> 02:11:24,658
should have said this earlier. I'm so sorry. Thank you

2004
02:11:24,658 --> 02:11:28,077
for noting the text. We will work on that. Also,

2005
02:11:28,077 --> 02:11:32,295
there's QR codes. If ever. You're sitting there and you

2006
02:11:32,295 --> 02:11:36,358
want to check out the agenda. You can also get

2007
02:11:36,358 --> 02:11:38,958
access to the PowerPoints on your phones and zoom in,

2008
02:11:38,958 --> 02:11:41,238
zoom out. So that's an option, but no. We'll work

2009
02:11:41,238 --> 02:11:44,957
on the tech size. So I want to say that

2010
02:11:44,957 --> 02:11:53,476
I appreciate. The exercise. In exploration, I think often. These

2011
02:11:53,476 --> 02:11:57,938
spaces can feel. A little scary. And so you have

2012
02:11:57,938 --> 02:12:00,698
councils that aren't willing to even have conversations like. This.

2013
02:12:00,698 --> 02:12:04,538
And so I appreciate that. We have a process where

2014
02:12:04,538 --> 02:12:08,618
any council member can propose a future. Agenda item, they

2015
02:12:08,618 --> 02:12:10,738
get a majority of the council to say, yeah, I

2016
02:12:10,738 --> 02:12:14,787
want to explore it further. And then we're at today,

2017
02:12:14,787 --> 02:12:16,467
and then we can get a presentation, and then we

2018
02:12:16,467 --> 02:12:18,427
can. Actually decide whether or not we're going to move

2019
02:12:18,427 --> 02:12:21,547
forward. So I appreciate that process. I think it's healthy.

2020
02:12:21,547 --> 02:12:23,667
I think it's good for democracy. And so I want

2021
02:12:23,667 --> 02:12:27,558
to say thank you. For this exercise. I will say,

2022
02:12:27,558 --> 02:12:33,326
though, that. I also understand. That population growth or really

2023
02:12:33,326 --> 02:12:36,566
population concentration and where the state is heading with its

2024
02:12:36,566 --> 02:12:42,335
regulation. And its lack of support for further infrastructure. It's

2025
02:12:42,335 --> 02:12:44,375
a real problem. And I know that there's development happening

2026
02:12:44,375 --> 02:12:48,260
in outside cities. I'm not so sure about this as

2027
02:12:48,260 --> 02:12:52,558
the solution. And it's interesting because we had a presentation.

2028
02:12:54,288 --> 02:12:56,848
From Chris Gray from WRCOG, and he was talking about

2029
02:12:56,848 --> 02:13:01,093
transportation and saying, actually, The problem is you're not using

2030
02:13:01,093 --> 02:13:06,885
your streets. Using the freeway, so I find that contradictory.

2031
02:13:06,885 --> 02:13:09,369
Anyway. I don't see how we could actually implement this.

2032
02:13:10,603 --> 02:13:15,304
I think. This isn't worth further exploring, but I do

2033
02:13:15,304 --> 02:13:20,179
appreciate. Having the exercise. So I'm option a as well,

2034
02:13:20,179 --> 02:13:22,859
with the understanding that wes, if something. Does come up.

2035
02:13:24,438 --> 02:13:25,958
You're going to put it on the future agenda item

2036
02:13:25,958 --> 02:13:28,438
we're going to have a discussion about it, so I

2037
02:13:28,438 --> 02:13:30,838
kind of feel like the wait and see is less

2038
02:13:30,838 --> 02:13:32,678
is going to keep us on our toes. So I'm

2039
02:13:32,678 --> 02:13:34,678
option a because I don't want to invest any more

2040
02:13:34,678 --> 02:13:40,720
resources, in particular your time. To any of this. So

2041
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:44,844
I appreciate it, but. It's a no for me. So

2042
02:13:44,844 --> 02:13:48,520
we got an aa. You're a b and a b,

2043
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:51,040
but the majority says a, so that's where we have

2044
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:53,720
it. Majority has it. I will say thank you for

2045
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:55,560
considering it. It's something. That I have been working on

2046
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:57,600
for more than a year. I know it sounds like

2047
02:13:57,600 --> 02:13:59,920
it's. An election thing, but I actually wrote this in

2048
02:13:59,920 --> 02:14:06,902
March of 2020. And I've been researching this since 2023,

2049
02:14:06,902 --> 02:14:09,702
or 20, actually, before then, that's. Why? I know if

2050
02:14:09,702 --> 02:14:12,902
something comes up, you're going to bring. I appreciate it.

2051
02:14:12,902 --> 02:14:15,702
I know. That with the streetlight data that we currently

2052
02:14:15,702 --> 02:14:20,131
have and. With the money that tca. Is going to

2053
02:14:20,131 --> 02:14:22,251
be providing us. We're going to be keeping a close

2054
02:14:22,251 --> 02:14:24,811
eye on the folks getting off there, and we'll be

2055
02:14:24,811 --> 02:14:28,371
able to get an idea, a little better idea. Of

2056
02:14:28,371 --> 02:14:32,297
what that impacts really are. Pretty black and white with

2057
02:14:32,297 --> 02:14:36,570
the numbers there, but I guess we'll find out. Yeah.

2058
02:14:36,570 --> 02:14:40,050
Of course. If something changes, I will certainly have no

2059
02:14:40,050 --> 02:14:43,239
hesitation to bring it back in. Make sure that it's

2060
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:46,658
okay, that I can bring it back, that it's. Different.

2061
02:14:46,658 --> 02:14:48,858
Go back to the process. What's. What? I mean, I'm

2062
02:14:48,858 --> 02:14:52,302
saying if it. Gets voted down right now. Then can

2063
02:14:52,302 --> 02:14:54,862
that future Jen. Can I submit another future gentleman for

2064
02:14:54,862 --> 02:14:57,883
the same thing? He just takes a vote of the

2065
02:14:57,883 --> 02:15:00,843
council to put it back on an agenda. Okay, great.

2066
02:15:00,843 --> 02:15:02,323
And. I was just going to say, wes, we know

2067
02:15:02,323 --> 02:15:06,006
that traffic's been your baby for seven. Years. So we

2068
02:15:06,006 --> 02:15:08,806
really appreciate you. Your wheel spinning in that peabrain of

2069
02:15:08,806 --> 02:15:13,105
yours, trying to figure something out. Thank you. Thank you.

2070
02:15:13,105 --> 02:15:15,865
Okay, moving on. Item ten, legislative matters. There are none.

2071
02:15:15,865 --> 02:15:19,425
Item eleven, reports from boards and. Commissions 11.1 Library Board

2072
02:15:19,425 --> 02:15:22,705
of trustees we have a receiving file, the library board

2073
02:15:22,705 --> 02:15:27,345
of trustees report update for November eigth 2025 is someone

2074
02:15:27,345 --> 02:15:32,436
presenting that? Mr. Ellis. The receiving file 11.1. Why does

2075
02:15:32,436 --> 02:15:36,228
it say report update? No, it's just getting submitted. For

2076
02:15:36,228 --> 02:15:40,148
the record. Okay. 11.2 Planning and Housing commission none. 11.3

2077
02:15:40,148 --> 02:15:42,428
parks and recreation commission receive and file the Parks and

2078
02:15:42,428 --> 02:15:46,508
Recreation Commission report. Update for December 9, 2025. Also on

2079
02:15:46,508 --> 02:15:51,606
the record 11.4 regional meetings, none. Item twelve. City attorneys

2080
02:15:51,606 --> 02:15:53,566
report and comments. Mr. Derlis, do you have any comments

2081
02:15:53,566 --> 02:15:57,706
tonight? Thank you, city managers. Item 13. City managers report

2082
02:15:57,706 --> 02:15:59,666
and comment. Mr. Ellis, do you have any comments? Tonight?

2083
02:15:59,666 --> 02:16:02,746
No, mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Item 14. City council

2084
02:16:02,746 --> 02:16:04,826
members reports and comments. Do my colleagues have any comments

2085
02:16:04,826 --> 02:16:09,919
tonight? Seeing no. Wow. No comments from the city council.

2086
02:16:09,919 --> 02:16:14,115
Okay. Item 15. Thank you all so much for joining

2087
02:16:14,115 --> 02:16:18,226
us tonight. We will adjourn the next meeting. Of the

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current city council is on February 4, 2026, at 06:00

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p.m. in this room. Meeting is adjourned.