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This call to order the November 20th, 2025 special called meeting Board Workshop of the Corpus Christi Independent School District Board of Trustees at 903 a.m. All items discussed this morning have been posted as required by state law.

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This meeting is being live streamed and a complete recording will be archived for the public to view at their convenience. Please speak into your microphones, so those watching in livestream will be able to hear what you're saying.

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And at this time, I'll call roll to establish a quorum, Marty Bell, as High Mayor of

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Dundal, Steve Burrera, Don Clark, Alice of Shaw Hawkins, Eric Villarreal, and I am

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dolly trolley, a quorum is been established and will proceed with the agenda.

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Good morning, board members, and guests, thank you guys for being with us this morning.

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We have a great opportunity for the next couple of hours to discuss, as you see in front

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to review facilities and considerations with existing aging facilities and then also looking

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at some considerations of possible consolidations and boundary changes.

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Do you want to stress that these are just considerations that have not been any decisions

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made?

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Also want to just give a kudos to our Finance Committee, fiscal committee.

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They worked really hard as a team of three working with administration on the committee reviewing our work given us some guidance and feedback and today we get to share that information with the full board.

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During this time, I encourage you to please ask questions, ask some conversation.

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at any point that you feel, you need clarification on a particular plan that we might be looking

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at or particular school. Then this is the time to do that. We will take some feedback after

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we do the workshop, our plan is to come back after the Thanksgiving break, which will go over

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the timeline in a little bit, and I'm going to miss Griffith's presentation, but definitely

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going to seek community feedback as well with the same information that we're sharing with you

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today. So that being said, looking forward to the conversation.

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Good morning. Dr. Clement and I will be walking you through this facility's workshop this morning.

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But to start off, we're going to today.

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We're going to cover some surplus properties.

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Then we're going to go over an enrollment update facility usage report,

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some consolidation considerations, and then a communication plan.

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So first, I want to show some surplus property that the district has.

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We have 10 properties currently available for either cell or used by the district.

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The ones that are highlighted in yellow or the ones that the committee is recommending

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along with the administration that maybe it's time to consider selling these so that we

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can address current maintenance needs and some other district initiatives that we may be

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need in going forward. So the first one that we're recommending is on 4401 cast an

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on street and if you can see we own this, we're merry-gred is, we own this little

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slither of land that's right there, it's about 0.063 acres and so there's not in need

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for this, there's not anything that the district could really do with this property. So

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At this point in time, our maintenance team do have to keep these properties mode.

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So it is a lot on our maintenance team to keep up with all these properties.

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So it would help also with our maintenance to try and keep up with all of these fields.

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So we're recommending that this little slither be sold.

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The next piece of property is on 461 Maria Street.

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This is our old clock property.

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This is about 7.79 acres.

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So, this is another one that we don't feel that there would be a future need for this site.

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The next one is...

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What's that building right there on O-Is that a gym?

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No, that's the covered playground.

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Cover playground, okay, thank you.

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The next property is a piece of property that's adjacent to our current low-sensino school.

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So, we just built that the property or the school on low-sensinos.

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So you see next to it is the old where the old school was at and so we're recommending we don't see a future need for that because if we did we would build on the same site

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So we do have some developers that are really interested in that piece of property. So this is another one that could be considered by the board and the last piece

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Whoops, is the our old Montclair, this is on Kentner Street, and so this is about nine

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acres, and so did I upload the wrong one? Yep, it is. So apologies, so this would be the old Montclair

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property, this is I guess I loaded the last two of the same picture. Apologies for that, but

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Anyway, this last one is the, we're Montclair Elementary School used to be, and this is

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about nine acres, and so this would be in the middle of a, also a neighborhood that could

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be sold for housing as well.

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Okay.

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And now we're going to move on to enrollment and we'll bring those up at another, another board

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meeting, but just so that the board knows that this is some.

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Just real quick, the properties that we're not selling, I know that there are some, currently

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there's some buildings on those properties,

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correct, like a metal brook is, that facility is still there.

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Oh, they're still down.

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That's right.

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OK, so I'd like to take your attention to our 2526 enrollment data.

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On the first column you'll see is our current campus enrollment,

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and you'll see that for elementary, middle, and high school.

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And you'll see that the district total is about 32,000 students.

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Now when we did our projections and this is what we use for our budget

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numbers, we were budgeting that we would have 33,167 students. So that is a difference in this,

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these enrollment counts are as of snapshot. And so this enrollment difference is about 1,094,

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so almost 1100 students. Okay, when you look at and compare it to the same time last year

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of our previous year enrollment were down 1,026 students. So this was not anticipated that we would

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lose this many students in this year.

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As we take a look at our enrollment history over the last six years,

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you'll see that the district has lost a total of 4,269 students.

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And so this is significant because this is attributing to part of our deficit

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balance. So and as we go forward and we're looking at this, we did have a

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graphic study done in January of 2025 and what the demographic study is showing is that even

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though we do have home cells that are currently out there a lot of that has slowed down and

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they're anticipating over the next 10 years that our school numbers will remain flat.

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Now we did have a demographic study which we were using prior to that was done in about 2018 and

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was prior to COVID and that did show a lot of growth in the Corpus Christi area and that was

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driving a lot of our information before. But the situation has changed and we do, we are

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addressing schools in our areas where we have a lot of dense population but now we've got several

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areas in our demographic area that are now shrinking and shrinking in size and we're not showing

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any growth in those areas. There's no new development going in those areas. So when we take a look at this, we take all of this and put this in consideration.

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So when you look at facility usage for our elementary, if you look at the row that says campus, the ones that are highlighted and read that is because they had a facility condition index that show that we really needed during our long term

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evaluation study that these campuses, there was something that really need to be

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do with these campuses. The condition of these campuses are not where they need to be.

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But then when you go over to our facility usage index across the board, you will see

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that we have a lot of campuses that are being underutilized. And so overall we have a

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67% utilization of our elementary school. And just so you know, in the blue that's

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optimal but that really and truly that is showing that you're that you're building is used at

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its full potential and that could be if we had any more students could be lead to overcrowding.

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The 80% 80 to 89% is good and that's really where you want your schools to be because that means you

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still have room to grow but you're in that good place and you're optimal as far as your efficiencies.

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Fair means that you're really not getting your full efficiency out of those schools

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but it's still decent, but poor anything that's 69 or below,

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that means you're actually losing money

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because you're not utilizing think about a house

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that you have, you know, a five bedroom house for two people.

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It's they're not being utilized and you're spending money on electricity

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and all these other things that you really don't have need for.

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So it's time to downsize.

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When we look at our middle schools, again, the two that are highlighted in red

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on the under the campus, that's because the condition, the condition index show that these

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needed attention.

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When you look at our overall middle school, you'll see that overall we are 57% underutilized

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across the district.

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When you take a look at our high schools, our high schools are a little bit better and we're

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right there in that good zone at about 75% so we're good in our high schools.

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But let's take a look at our current operating budget.

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So this is our adopted budget for 2526, so when the, and this is our operating budget, so this is where you start, so when we start budget and February, this is where you start from, so we've got to start, we have the deficit budget, it continues with with you, so the board approved a negative $22 million deficit budget last year, and then we have the enrollment loss, and so now just operational, we're sitting at a 27.5 million.

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and dollar deficit budget.

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So this is the reason why

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overall it's like, this is why overall

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we as a district have to look at what we're going to do in the future because we have got

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to attack this operating budget. Now this is as of right now and just want the board to keep in mind

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that the legislative did the teacher retention allotment and many of our schools that are surrounding

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us got bigger amounts and so now we were used to be one of the second top paying districts

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we're now at the bottom paying of our teacher pay because of that teacher retention

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allotment that was put on by the state because we're big we got the lower amount we'll

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all our surrounding districts are small so they got the bigger amount so that's also somewhere

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we have to keep in mind and trying to retain and recruit teachers also we're staffing

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we knew that a couple of years ago we did do a staffing study that showed that in our other

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areas we are lacking we're not up to market and several of our auxiliary positions. And so with

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this kind of a budget we're not able to even attack those needs because operationally we're not

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where we need to be. So now it's time to try and look and do a deep dive we thought that with the

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legislative session coming on board that we were going to get additional money we didn't get that

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So now the only way is to either look at our own blueprint and see what we can do internally or go back out to the taxpayers and ask for a bator.

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And if you look at across the state where the bators they did not pass because I mean right now I think everybody in the economy economy is hurting and so that's not something that we need to do.

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So before we do that we've got to take a look at ourselves and what we can do as a district to try and save money overall.

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So now I'm going to turn the meeting over to Dr. Clement, and she's going to go through some

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school consolidation considerations.

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Hello, shorter.

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Good morning, everybody.

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So happy to be here.

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We're going to go over school consolidation considerations that the committee came up with

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based on our facility usage index, our facility condition index, and our enrollments, and

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where we are right now.

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If you will turn a page 2 in your packet, school consolidations, the plans for consideration are listed.

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We will go over elementary school plan 1, which will detail the consideration to resume

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historic elementary and Sanders elementary with a Dawson, Galvan, Los and Senos, and Yager elementary schools.

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We'll then follow that with elementary school plan 2 in rezoning fan and elementary school with

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Berlanger, Garcia, and Hicks elementary schools. Elementary school plan 3 will review

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Travis elementary schools being resowned and consolidated with Allen, Houston, Shaw,

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and Savala elementary schools. After we're done reviewing the elementary school plans,

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we will move on to middle school.

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We have three middle schools that are being considered

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in these plans.

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And middle school plan one A is to reason brown middle school

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with students at Adkins, Grant, Haas,

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and Hamlin middle school, plan B from middle school plan one

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is to reason both brown and Haas middle school

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with Adkins, Grant, and Hamlin middle school.

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And then our final plan we'll review today

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will be rezoning Martin middle school and splitting it between cutting

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hemorrhals.

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Well, it's south park and dress school middle school. So, let's get started with plan 1 elementary school 1.

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On page 4, you'll see our current carol vlc elementary boundaries. And also includes part of the moody vlc.

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Picture it on this slide or the current boundary zones for elementary in the carol vlc, and to familiarize yourself with this data.

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And

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it helps if I advance, right?

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Yes, thank you.

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Thank you.

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If you'll look at this, you'll look at the first column

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it shows you the campus capacity without portables.

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This is just your brick and mortar building.

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It's what we utilize for this.

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So we'd be consistent across all the campuses.

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The second column is a currently zoned students in that area

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for each.

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Zoned means they're not necessarily enrolled,

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but this many kids that could be attending that school

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be in that boundary, live there. The snapshot enrollment that the state uses for our enrollment

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and our attendance and everything else is listed and that was taken an October 31st. This was

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the current enrollment at each of those campuses. And then the last column is a percent of

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capacity currently being used with the current enrollment students that are there. As we move forward

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through this, know that part of these enrollments that you'll see on the current snapshot,

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We've already taken out the students or maybe on transfers or they are attending Metro E or they're attending Windsor Park.

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They are not included in the snapshot numbers. These are actual students enrolled currently there.

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You may wonder, and in this one and in others, you may wonder why Galvan Elementary has a higher number of enrollment students than the students that are actually zone and live in their district.

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There are 450, three students that live in the attendance zone, but 514 are enrolled.

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So what we have in this situation is for example, they have 112 students that are

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emergent by language that attend golf on elementary because there's an emergent by

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language programs that are there, but that's why they go there.

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And so, and they're also another difference for those reasons that you'll see sometimes

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little higher and sometimes we have parents, the parents of students who take or employees that

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take their own children to the schools so they might not be in their boundary, but then new,

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they attend that school. Let's move to elementary school plan 1. And this one's going to cover

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consolidating historic elementary and sand or elementary.

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Moving to formina. Thank you, Cyrus.

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Okay, this one will resume, will, will, will,

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because stories would resume between Los and Cinos,

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Galvan, and Yager.

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Sanders would be resowned between DOS and Galvan.

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At Galvan elementary, there are four portables

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that are not included in this count.

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They're double classrooms.

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So, if those will be used, which they could,

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and most likely will be the percent capacity for Galvan,

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will go down to 79% instead of the 97%.

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By consolidating historic incentives,

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you can see that we have gone from club states

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will have no changes, but we have gone from

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Dawson Elementary, sitting at 65% facility usage

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to 91%.

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Galvan, to 94, but actually would be 97 with the, I mean,

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would be 79 with deportables, and then looking at Los Ncinos would move from 46% facility

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usage to 62%. And finally, Yeager would move from 66% facility used to healthy 91%.

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If this plan is adopted, there would be plans by the district to develop for facility upgrades

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in order to support

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Sanders, I apologize.

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And Sanders elementary in order to,

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no, sorry, in Shannon elementary in order to upgrade their buildings, apologize.

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Okay, all the numbers are flooded being together.

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Let's move to elementary school plan two,

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and that will be on page seven.

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Okay.

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So, this is the current fan-end area elementary boundaries.

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Bralongus, it's at 76% fan-end is at a facility usage of 55%

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Garcia's a facility usage of 53% and X is at 69%.

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So, we move to the next slide.

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And if we consolidate fan-end into Bralonga Garcia and X,

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Bralonga will go to a healthy 90% facility usage.

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our CO will move to a 67% and Hicks will move to an 80%.

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One thing that is to remember about this plan is that

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fan and students that live across across town expressway

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moving towards Garcia Elementary and being

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resowned there would receive transportation

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since they would be crossing a major highway.

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They don't have to be within the mile limit for transportation.

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They would be provided that.

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Let's move to the next plan. Go to page 10. This one

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reviews current Travis Elementary School Boundaries. As you'll see, Allen is a 46%

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belong as it's 76 currently. Garcia is at 53%, but that's already the including the

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fan and numbers being included in there. And so just recognize that we've already added those just

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so that you can see the ending number.

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Houston's at 61.

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Shaw's at 77.

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Travis is at 84.

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And Zavala's at 41%.

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By consolidating Travis into Allen Garcia Houston and Shaw,

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Allen would move from 46% capacity usage to 63%.

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But Garcia would move from 53% to 83% usage.

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Houston would move from 61 to 73 percent. Shaw would move from 77 to 76 percent, and there's a caveat here. In order for us to move students that are closer to Shaw out of here, we would be moving. We're recommending moving 111 students out of Shaw and sending them to Zavala.

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where Zavala would move them up to a 53% capacity.

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Zavala's a very big school, it's new,

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and it could take on those students.

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And some of those students actually live closer

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to Zavala than they do to shock currently.

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Let's move on to middle schools,

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page 13.

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The first one we're gonna go over

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is the current boundaries for brown middle school and hustle.

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As you can see, adkins middle school,

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that is one of our newest is that sitting at 36% facility usage right now. 36% of the building is being used.

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Brown is at 62% grant is 60% hot is at 42% and hamlin is at 60%.

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Let's move to the next page so that you can see the change with middle school plan A.

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If middle school plan A is adopted, then brown middle school would be moving to campuses

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of Adkins Grant, Haas and Hamlin. In addition, 157 students from Haas would be read

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zone to Adkins to increase the enrollment. This would put us at Adkins with a 55% and 225

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students, grant at 88% with 360 additional students,

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costs at 43% with 17 additional students,

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and Hamlin at 76% with 118 students.

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As I stated before, there's a second option also with middle schools.

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The second option is to consolidate both brown and

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middle school. And you can see on slide 15, the impact that that has on capacity,

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percent of capacity, add kids will would take on the students that are at

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costs of 523 and data percentage capacity of 79%. Still giving them room if we

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have additional subdivisions or anything that pops up or additional students,

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would have extra room there. Grant would take 400 to a 91% facility usage. Hamlin would go

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to an 82% still giving them as well additional room.

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I'm going to cover today is Martin Middle School. Martin Middle School sits right between

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Cunningham and Driscoll. It currently has Cunningham currently sits at 56% facility usage,

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Driscoll is at 60% and Martin is at 61. If we move to slide 18, you can see that by consolidating

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Martin and really basically almost splitting it in half, 195 students would go to Cunningham

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raising its facility per cent capacity to 72 per cent.

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194 would go to the risk goal and raising that to 84 per cent.

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The next slide I'm going to go over with you is what kind of impact would this have on the high schools?

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So with the different middle school options, I want to make sure that I covered that with y'all.

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If you go to slide 20, there is the current high school boundaries and their percent capacity for each, and I want to just list it all of them.

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Carol currently is at 79% with 1896 students. King is at 62% with 1245 students.

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Millimetral High School is at 82% with the 1326,

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moody with an enrollment of 1235 is at 64%.

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Ray High School with 1439 is at 65,

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and VATS is 1992, which is 83%.

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I do want to caution you that high school enrollments are very fluid.

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Because our students transfer and move from one program of study to another,

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those numbers depended on the program that they want to attend

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or any type of recruitment that is being done

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in order for them to do a study there,

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then those these numbers are very fluid.

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They can shift and change at any time.

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Let's go to slide 21 first.

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What slide 21 includes is middle school plan 1A.

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That is the one where only Brown would be consolidated,

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and Martin.

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Hoss would not be consolidated in this plan.

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In this plan, Carol would be projected to go down 322 students to be at a 66% capacity.

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King would go up a 129 students to a 68% capacity.

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Miller Metro High School would go down to 317 students to 62% capacity

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and Moody High School would go up 317 students to 80% capacity.

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Where a high school would take an additional $193 students to sit at 74% and events would remain the same with an 83% capacity.

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Let's move to page 22.

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The high school plan that would include the consolidation of all three middle schools.

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Martin, Hoss, and Brown.

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If you look at the facility usage here, Carol actually loses a little bit less, and they go

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only 197 students down to a 71% capacity.

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With King High School there would be no change because of Hospitals consolidated with

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Adkins.

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It's got one feeder and that Adkins feeder would feed into King and still allow for any growth

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in that area that may potentially happen and then feed directly into King as well.

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Miller, Metro High School, would lose 285 students and go to 64%.

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One thing to note is that Miller is our smallest high school, was the one originally

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been many, many years ago, and so it's facility usage is not comparable to the amount

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of students that has because it was built smaller, and so Moody High School would take

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in a hundred and ninety seven students from the Martin consolidation and be at seventy four percent.

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Ray high school would take in two hundred and eighty five to be at seventy eight percent

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and then best would remain the same.

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Again, like I said, these are very fluid numbers in terms

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of high school but I wanted to give you an idea of the impact of the middle schools and what

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that may at least in our fluid numbers looks like right now.

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Just a quick question. Martin was used to be a feeder for

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Moody High School Correct. Yes sir. Okay.

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Martin was a feeder at one time and then it was resolved to go to Milton.

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And that's like two years ago, four years ago, four years ago.

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Four years ago. About four to five years ago, yes sir.

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Are there any questions?

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couple of questions.

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When you move those students out of, excuse me, we talked about this just briefly, but when

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you move those students out of Miller High School and take it down to 1,000 plus.

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How is that going to affect the sports categorizing and what that put us our district in a multiple, I guess, tear category of football and all of that, and then in that case, then with that also add our bump up our expenses, force sports, because we are moving in different

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So, that's a great question and that has been discussed several times.

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The answer is yes.

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It would drop them where they currently are at a 5A to a 4A.

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The good thing for our area here is that we have plenty of 4A, 5A schools for the most part.

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When you start getting up to 6A, you have to go down to the valley or San Antonio and right

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is the only school that's a 5.81, so they are not football-wise in the same district with all

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of our other schools. They do go down at the valley. All the other sports would remain the

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same, but for the snapshot date that we turned in for October 31st. The current projections are

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already, even with none of this, has Miller falling into the four

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category. So the range is like, I want to say maybe from 600 to 1200.

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So,

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and since we already in that category range, how has that effected our bottom line for

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transportation for out-of-town games, for all of that that feeds into, you know, our expenses.

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Most likely for veterans because when they used to play our own corpus Christi schools, now they're playing teams in the valley.

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That travel didn't used to happen.

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If we were to have the schools go down to 4A, most likely the district we would be and would

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be with Cal Island, to low-so-midway, Rockport, Fulton, and St. Hallis is also going to

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go down to 4A, and so that right there is still close enough, almost like Corpus Christi

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Schools. It wouldn't be that much further, but because it doesn't bother a little travel,

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You know right now most of their games are at buck or cabinets.

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But they might have to travel there, which they do some of that in the preseason anyway.

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You know, we play Callow and we play to Los Ovidwe.

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We play Alice and so our team do drive for those stadiums right now.

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Yeah, I think that we just split, right?

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I mean, we play those schools later in a trial and then play our other schools.

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It's right on the travel side that dance here question I think it hasn't happened yet

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but I'm glad you said that that it's projected that Miller's going to go down to for a.

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It's also protected here would be division one, 5A which means that they'll probably have to go back down

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same route that VATS is running going down to the valley.

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So there would be additional costs as far as Carroll travel is concerned.

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in football only, but the rest of them would be locally as far as their district, but that

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would be an additional cost as well.

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Well, my question is, what is the percentage of cost that we would incur?

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I understand what everybody said, and that's the reason why I'm asking the question,

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because I know it's going to affect that, but my concern is at what level are we going to have

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additional money.

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But we can study that, because like Mr. Bell said, if the projections

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hold up in UIL doesn't change the cutoffs, we could have Carol join that in that district.

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But Miller's not the only school that could be projected to go down to four. It could

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also be moody because their numbers are right there as well as keen. So if those numbers

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do play out or fall out, how many categories are we entertaining in CCI-SD?

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Yeah, so we would have three, four A and the other three high schools five A.

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Okay,

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so in terms of Miller high school going down to the low thousands, how is that going to affect

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And Dr. Clayton, I had a conversation about this as well.

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But how's that going to, I don't know,

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how's it going to affect our students in terms of academics

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and morale, especially in the community?

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And I think that's one of the things

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that we have to kind of have a conversation

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about before our customers, or our students, or our parents, start having the conversation

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for us, such that we can have some kind of responses because with the social media going on

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and everything, we got to get out in front of things. We got to tell our story before somebody

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backfills it. And so I'm just kind of concerned about the idea of dropping down that

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low. I do get it that we will, our students at Miller High School will perhaps receive

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some very good instructions with the lower numbers and all of that. But I just, I kind

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I'm having a feeling about that thing and I can't really explain it at this point in time,

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but I think it is a point of consideration.

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And so I think that that's another thing that we need to put on the table and have some answers

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to once our parents and we start to visit with the community about all of this kind of stuff.

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Next question that I have is, in term, and this is all about transportation, and I know

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we, or bus in our students right now, I know that this will incur some additional busing

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of students, am I correct?

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Because if we get rid of these schools, they're no longer there, they're no longer considered

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neighbourhood schools, and things like that, that is going to bump up our need for additional

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buses, bus schedules, bus drivers, and that is something we have just had to deal with

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year after year after year in terms of attracting bus drivers and keeping them. I mean,

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I'd be willing to drive a bus if it becomes necessary. I don't know if y'all would allow me to

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do that, but I could certainly drive one. But I'm saying that, that's not, you know, I'm not

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But we need to really consider that because that is going to be a tremendous undertaking to get rid of these

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many schools and have to transport children over major roads in highways and over boundary and zone lines.

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And so I just want to make sure that that is fully discussed and as my board member says,

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First, is discussed in Cust, or whatever, because I think it's really an important

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passage of getting our children to the classes on time, and there's also concern about

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even adjusting the day in terms of what time certain campuses get started versus elementary

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middle school and high school. One last observation or question in my mind before I turned

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over to somebody else. I never understood why Martin middle school was built where it was built.

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It sits in the back door of Cunningham at the time, the Cunningham is still part of that whole community.

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That's just something that's in my mind. You don't need to respond to that. I just want you

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I would like to provide a little bit of feedback on both of the ones that you mentioned.

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The one thing with Miller, this was a very hard for all of you, for all of us recognizing

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that we've gone down so many enrollment of students and knowing that we have buildings in most

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cases that are newer, that can take in the students to right-size our district, was a really

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decision in terms of the consolidation planning. For you guys and I know this is really hard

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for all of y'all as well as it will be for our communities. So we look forward to getting

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a lot of feedback from them. You're right. We look to seeing pros and cons. What are the pros

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from Miller in specifically? Our when we look at the whole picture and you know this all of our

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population that attend schools or families that have school nature are moving towards the west,

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the south side and the central and so by default it's Miller that ends up having even the least

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amount of students. Now they've been there before because in 2009, 2010 and 2011, Miller had

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numbers in the 900's and so but then they came back up when we moved Martin especially they

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00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:22,680
came back up because we took all of Martin and sent them there. The advantage there a little pro

433
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,060
is that it becomes a smaller learning environment in one of our smallest high schools to the point

434
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:31,140
that you get to the point where you know every child's name

435
00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:34,180
because sometimes in an at-risk,

436
00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:37,100
under-resourced neighborhood, that can be a good thing.

437
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,840
But then there's also the loss of you've lost more students.

438
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,340
It's a balance.

439
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,280
You just don't know which way is the best way to go,

440
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,920
but we know that we're in a deficit.

441
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,380
But yes, many conversations and many listening sessions

442
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:51,760
need to be held so that we can hear people out

443
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,160
and understand where they're coming from.

444
00:40:54,180 --> 00:40:56,140
And any ideas that they can also provide.

445
00:40:56,140 --> 00:41:01,160
Second, on the transportation, that is a big conversation and discussion of planning that

446
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,500
we'll have to go into play.

447
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,300
One thing we know is that many of the schools that we're considering closing already

448
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,120
have transportation that comes to them and buses students.

449
00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:15,020
So those will automatically be rerouted to where the others need them could be picked up on

450
00:41:15,020 --> 00:41:15,480
different routes.

451
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:20,480
But we also have to be more inventive because there will be additional needs as well.

452
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,660
and Martin being built somebody 20 years, 40 years from now, that's why we built, you know,

453
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,920
something where we were out of, I'm with you. Thank you. Any other questions?

454
00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:39,970
I just just to follow up really quick, I appreciate the anticipatory leadership and looking,

455
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:46,590
you know, these are very difficult conversations to have as a principle I went through two

456
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:47,370
and solidations.

457
00:41:47,530 --> 00:41:50,350
So these aren't very easy conversations to have,

458
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:52,970
but this is not something new.

459
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:55,890
Can school consolidations has been going on.

460
00:41:56,050 --> 00:41:58,450
We've had Central Park and Custellindas

461
00:41:58,450 --> 00:41:59,850
and all those different things.

462
00:42:00,050 --> 00:42:02,650
And so I appreciate this team's work

463
00:42:02,650 --> 00:42:05,390
and being proactive and looking in the future

464
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:06,850
and trying to get ahead of this.

465
00:42:07,830 --> 00:42:10,010
Cause, I mean, every time something pops up on the phone,

466
00:42:10,070 --> 00:42:11,930
you look at KDI as the closing schools,

467
00:42:12,250 --> 00:42:15,590
Austin closing schools, it's happening across the state.

468
00:42:15,590 --> 00:42:22,430
And I just wanted to piggyback on Ms. Hawkins, that's that it's really hard to project a cost.

469
00:42:22,830 --> 00:42:30,590
What we would incur because let's say these things happen and every single one of our teams makes it to the playoffs, which is a great problem to have.

470
00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:33,430
It's going to be hard to, you know, and so it's hard.

471
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:40,950
And I appreciate I see that cost in quarrying about those costings like that and it would be great to see those kind of things like that.

472
00:42:41,930 --> 00:42:46,510
It's a living, breathing number, because let's say all the teams make the playoffs, then there's

473
00:42:46,510 --> 00:42:50,410
going to be huge costs incurred, and so kind of things like that.

474
00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:54,930
But get a projection would be nice to see, and things like that, but appreciate this

475
00:42:54,930 --> 00:42:58,770
y'all's reports and hard work on this, thank you so much.

476
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,320
Just a little further clarification when you're looking at how much it's going to cost.

477
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:18,520
We're talking about Carolyn and that's been division one five day, but also we're talking about Ray high school being division two five day.

478
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,300
And the only schools that's left with him and that group is Gregory Portland.

479
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:33,540
So if you're looking at Ray, possibly being stuck in a radio or stuck in San Antonio or stuck down in the valley as well.

480
00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:38,260
And so that's going to be, and that's just for football, and then when they all come back

481
00:43:38,260 --> 00:43:45,540
to play 5A for all the other sports, now you have GP, Ray, Carroll, Vats, but that means

482
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:50,360
that to finish out that district, that anywhere from 2 to 4 more teams in that district,

483
00:43:50,860 --> 00:43:51,900
well, where do they come from?

484
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,380
Well, there's no 5A schools around here, so that means we're back to New York, back to Victoria.

485
00:43:57,380 --> 00:44:00,840
But back to possibly, possibly, possibly, possibly, Victoria,

486
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:05,220
the flower bluff, it could be, that's been done before.

487
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:07,620
I mean, well, I mean, we're talking about the same district.

488
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:09,680
We had the same district.

489
00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:12,940
There's the possibilities there, but in football division too,

490
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,240
it'll affect rain GPs as far as they're traveling in football.

491
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:17,920
And when you're doing your cost,

492
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,260
if you need to take a look at not only that,

493
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,420
transmitting the, getting the athletes there,

494
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,720
but you got ban and cheerleaders, and all that kind of good stuff.

495
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:33,580
as well. I know that there's going to be some calls there and I know the conversations

496
00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:40,980
that we're having right now are really hard conversations. What struck me or what I

497
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:45,940
tried to do before we had our pre-meeting on this is I wanted to have all this stuff so

498
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:53,880
that I could go into our pre-meeting and be informed about our conversation. And in our pre-meeting

499
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,980
There's a lot of stuff that was information that was coming to me that I'm just going okay just a second time out let me look

500
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,820
Get it? Let me digest it on the spot. Well, I had a chance to go back and do a deep dive last night.

501
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:15,020
And some questions came up and whatnot, or some observations that kind of influence me, like sending

502
00:45:15,020 --> 00:45:22,480
kids to Garcia, and now we're going to utilize four portables. That bothers me. You know.

503
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,740
We don't have

504
00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:30,960
Go on go on go on. I mean go on go on send and kids to go on and now we're going to start using portables

505
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:37,440
So that we can accommodate the closure of this school. I'm not so sure that's the best academic environment for our kiddos

506
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,180
Having kids part of having a VLC

507
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:46,540
Is creating that that family the group of of

508
00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:52,440
kids, as you go through that, when you're in a classroom, you feel comfortable and safe and

509
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,200
having conversations with your fellow classmates and doing group work, a project based

510
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,800
learning stuff, things like that.

511
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,440
But if you're going from, you know, I'm at Martin this year, and I understand five years

512
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,740
down the road, it'll be a flutter under the bridge, where, you know, this is the way it is.

513
00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:13,160
But initially it could affect a will affect a lot of our kids going forth.

514
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:21,940
I get that there is a balance between money and education and utilizing our facilities, and

515
00:46:21,940 --> 00:46:24,280
that right now we're kind of in a situation where there's no right answer.

516
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:28,540
We just got to pick the best wrong answer, and that's our job.

517
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,440
I do hear what you're saying if it's Hawkins about the academic end of it, and whatnot.

518
00:46:35,380 --> 00:46:37,240
So a lot more conversations to go forward.

519
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:41,760
If I could just clarify on the last part of for Mr. Bell's comment.

520
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,800
So the portables, they wouldn't be brought into the picture.

521
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:46,880
They're already in the picture.

522
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,720
So the portables have been there, Galvan.

523
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:54,900
And if you remember, during the bond conversations with bond

524
00:46:54,900 --> 00:47:02,020
without the bond, we had talked about like we did at where, at Maralis, at Barnes,

525
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,960
where we could add a wing and get rid of those portables.

526
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,840
I just wanted to make sure that was still there.

527
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:15,860
There's also, if these options are considered, and we go into the discovery phases, what I call it, the process.

528
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,320
We could also look at the 112 students that we have transferred, that are being moved,

529
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:24,620
that are on transfers to Galvan for EB.

530
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:31,000
There are space at other schools that we could take off those 112 or some of them,

531
00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:34,480
and probably drop Galvan to an 80% capacity with that.

532
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,160
we can get created with that if needed. Another thing that I wanted to make sure that I was

533
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:46,200
clear, with the Carol, it currently, I believe, it's projected to the, with the vets. If it stays

534
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:52,360
away it is, if it goes into, if these changes are made and it goes down a bit, it'll be with Ray.

535
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,540
So either way, whether we, right now or whether we do this or not, there's still either playing

536
00:47:58,540 --> 00:48:02,020
and five, five day one, and I forget we've got

537
00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:04,940
or five eight, two, for example.

538
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,380
But these numbers are, we've already submitted

539
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:08,560
our numbers so wherever we go.

540
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,100
We need to fall for the next two years or so.

541
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
If we put this into play next year,

542
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,280
Carol High School's gonna be playing Division one, five eight

543
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,640
with Division two, four, a division two, five eight numbers.

544
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,620
If we do the Brown Martin play on that beat at 15, 74,

545
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:39,380
But that's, I get the athletic should drive our academics, but it's something that I just want to remind everyone that this isn't just the CCRSD problem, this is happening across the state.

546
00:48:39,820 --> 00:48:41,260
So everyone is losing numbers.

547
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:50,840
So as we're speaking today, in two years when we redo the UIL zones, it could totally change across the board anyway, regardless of the size of our school.

548
00:48:50,840 --> 00:49:00,740
And so, just like we've done every biennium, we adjust to the new zones, we, I mean, we currently have budget, we up some schools, and we lower some schools to offset.

549
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:11,360
The travel is not going to be, we will get our students there. That's, but again, you'll bring this up in this part of our operating budget, so we want to make sure that we have money to do these kind of things.

550
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:19,660
So, and then I also want to remind you about the conditions of Sanders, Yager, Kostores, and Shannon

551
00:49:19,660 --> 00:49:20,180
the States.

552
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:22,420
This is not an easy puzzle.

553
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,360
It's not an easy fix.

554
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:26,860
All for those schools are deteriorating.

555
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:33,080
Each one of them has their own little unique situation that the district has to address.

556
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:38,880
It's not a good fit, but are they in a better place?

557
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:43,980
you know, they may temporarily need to be in portables until maybe we could get any wing

558
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:48,120
built, but still I'm in some of these other conditions, it is better condition than what

559
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,660
they're already in.

560
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,680
I could, I have a comment, I might.

561
00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:03,660
Well, I know that this is in the talking phases right now, some vital decisions to be made,

562
00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:21,500
And I understand too that the trajectory of these changes and closures and moving heads around can be done in stages or we can just rip the band-aid off and just do it whenever.

563
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:33,540
I'm not sure how this all will shake out, but my question is, you started your conversation

564
00:50:33,540 --> 00:50:37,580
with the $27 million that we have as a deficit.

565
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:46,840
And my concern or question is, at what stage can any of this be done, maybe take it all

566
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:54,360
at one time or do we didn't have or do elements refers or how it gets eventually structured

567
00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:02,680
out. Where do we have to what extent then is that going to affect that 27 million that

568
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,700
we are in the hole?

569
00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:16,650
That's a really important question. But before we move on to that, I wanted to ask a couple

570
00:51:16,650 --> 00:51:22,510
of questions too. And make a comment. First of all, I think one thing to consider and that some

571
00:51:22,510 --> 00:51:29,370
us and maybe talked about on the middle schools is that the improvements that some of these students

572
00:51:29,370 --> 00:51:35,090
would be getting, you know, and pertaining to athletics, you know, brown and hause only have

573
00:51:35,090 --> 00:51:40,330
one gym now. They'd be going to schools where they do have two gyms. So, and to new newer campuses

574
00:51:40,330 --> 00:51:48,290
where they're going to have improvement on facilities. So, that's a one upgrade there. And on the

575
00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:52,070
transportation piece, I understand the rerouting and without getting into all the details on that,

576
00:51:52,070 --> 00:51:56,070
do we have enough buses to accommodate all of that or would we have to purchase new?

577
00:51:56,470 --> 00:52:01,090
Okay, we're going to look at that, but buses isn't the issue because we can buy buses,

578
00:52:01,630 --> 00:52:07,910
but the problem that we have continuously had is the drivers and so Kyle and his crew are currently

579
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:14,350
mapping remathing these so they can see how what the need would be and see how we could

580
00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:21,110
make these adjustments with our current staff with the thought that we couldn't get any more drivers.

581
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:24,990
Well, and I get that, but buying the buses isn't cheap, and if we're trying to cut it down,

582
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:31,330
that's what I mean by that is that that's like a one-time fix for the next 17 years and we can.

583
00:52:31,490 --> 00:52:35,030
We do have buses. We just are problem right now. Is the bus drivers?

584
00:52:35,590 --> 00:52:41,070
Okay, and then the last thing is kind of a big thing on that, you know, academic outcomes.

585
00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:47,610
And we're really proud of getting our rating up to a B over all some of these campuses that we're talking about.

586
00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:50,410
have strong ratings, they've made really big improvements.

587
00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:55,550
Without getting into every single campus,

588
00:52:55,890 --> 00:52:58,590
can you talk about what your thought is on how

589
00:52:58,590 --> 00:53:00,530
that's going to affect and how we can,

590
00:53:00,990 --> 00:53:02,870
it's going to affect the academic outcomes

591
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:07,510
and blending these schools and how we can

592
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:09,970
assure that we're doing the best for all these students

593
00:53:09,970 --> 00:53:12,630
and keeping our academic ratings strong?

594
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:13,710
Great question.

595
00:53:13,710 --> 00:53:15,790
One thing I did want to add to the middle schools,

596
00:53:15,790 --> 00:53:21,810
all three of them only have one gym, including Martin, just so you're where every other middle

597
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:28,290
school we have in the district has two gyms except those three schools. And so when I'm looking

598
00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:34,570
at, let's say, Kostores and Sanders, Sanders are right now sits at a 75C, which is a good

599
00:53:34,570 --> 00:53:42,850
they've come up, they made growth and gains. Kostores is an 84B, Dawson is an 89B, Galvan is an 84B,

600
00:53:42,850 --> 00:53:47,030
Los Alcinos is a B, Yager is a B. They would all be going to B schools.

601
00:53:47,650 --> 00:53:50,030
Same thing is said for Fanon and Travis.

602
00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:54,810
The only one that made major gains as a C is Shaw. The rest are all

603
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:57,170
and belong at the rest are all B schools.

604
00:53:57,790 --> 00:54:03,510
And for Martin that certainly is our D school that's being discussed in this, the only one

605
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:07,750
is they would be moving to both cutting and having to risk school if this was adopted in

606
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:10,050
their both C schools that have made major improvements.

607
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:22,310
And having them, and I just want to put this caveat from curriculum instruction, right now with the campuses that we have, even though there's low numbers of students, we spread out to support all of them.

608
00:54:22,750 --> 00:54:35,990
By bringing them together, we're able to provide more resources to that one campus that supports all those schools and a lot less campuses and be able to actually utilize more efficiently our staff and the work that we do for them.

609
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:37,710
It would really help.

610
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:41,570
Academically for all our kids.

611
00:54:41,950 --> 00:54:42,550
Yes, sir.

612
00:54:43,790 --> 00:54:44,890
You may have already mentioned this.

613
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:46,490
I stepped out on the project with that.

614
00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:49,730
But considering these circumstances that Martin is in right now

615
00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:53,730
is a middle school, did you expand on that to the board?

616
00:54:54,850 --> 00:54:57,690
With TEA, what's that's going to allow us to do by closing

617
00:54:57,690 --> 00:54:58,430
Martin's other?

618
00:54:59,430 --> 00:55:02,690
Martin middle school is right now, and it's third unacceptable

619
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:04,410
rating from the state.

620
00:55:04,610 --> 00:55:06,630
It's the only campus we have like that.

621
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:09,450
It is has had two F's and a D rating.

622
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:11,230
They've improved this last year to a D,

623
00:55:11,710 --> 00:55:14,230
but the state will not remove them from that list

624
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:15,370
until the attenacy.

625
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:17,570
They're in third year right now,

626
00:55:17,830 --> 00:55:19,090
even the commission are told this

627
00:55:19,090 --> 00:55:20,930
when we were visited with him last week,

628
00:55:21,250 --> 00:55:23,490
said you do not want to go into your form.

629
00:55:23,890 --> 00:55:25,090
In option four,

630
00:55:25,330 --> 00:55:28,690
corpuscacy ISD is part of their action plan

631
00:55:28,690 --> 00:55:31,030
would be to close Martin Middle School

632
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:33,330
and allow the other school's to absorb them.

633
00:55:33,470 --> 00:55:35,610
We received grants that support,

634
00:55:35,610 --> 00:55:44,050
And we support Martin with a lot of extra state and federal funding through grants and also to support the campus because of the status that they're in.

635
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:51,670
We would now be able to direct that to Driscoll and to con, cutting him for the transition and for the ongoing support of these students.

636
00:55:52,090 --> 00:55:56,630
In addition, the smaller your campus is at the elementary and middle school level.

637
00:55:56,930 --> 00:56:02,670
Not necessarily the high school, but elementary and middle school because they don't have CCMR like high school does a graduation rate.

638
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:08,610
The smaller you are, the more harsh this accountability system is on you.

639
00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:13,850
Martin is a small school, so they are also saddled with that.

640
00:56:13,850 --> 00:56:18,830
The risk goal has been losing enrollment and they are less than a hundred kids away from

641
00:56:18,830 --> 00:56:24,590
Martin's size, so this would increase both of them to a healthy number that would also help

642
00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:29,990
them through accountability and allow us to focus our resources that are right now across

643
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:32,230
Three campuses to two.

644
00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:33,470
Thank you.

645
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,100
Just a room, couple questions, observations.

646
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:45,500
First off, our last mod we tried to add to Jim to Haas, correct.

647
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:48,860
And so if I'm here in this correct,

648
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,940
if Haas had a second, Jim, then we wouldn't even be talking

649
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:53,140
about them right now.

650
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:54,460
Not necessarily.

651
00:56:55,060 --> 00:56:58,200
Only because had we done that at the time,

652
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,600
there was a lot of growth that was going to happen.

653
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,160
that was expected to happen, and now it's not.

654
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:08,320
Our reasoning here really isn't about the gym.

655
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,640
It's about the enrollment size that's at costs.

656
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,960
And the 36% usage that's at Adkins Middle School,

657
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:17,820
that is a wonderful, great big school, and it's new.

658
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,340
Right, I get all of that.

659
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,620
And so, but I'm pretty confident

660
00:57:23,620 --> 00:57:25,880
if we had a second gym at Halls, or a Tom Brown,

661
00:57:25,940 --> 00:57:27,280
or even Martin for that fact,

662
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,580
we probably wouldn't be having a conversation about them.

663
00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:31,440
And the reason that we build second gym

664
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,480
to alleviate practice time for our kiddos.

665
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,880
We have so many kiddos and they're all playing in practice and things like that.

666
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,360
So let's take that, let's project that for, let's close Tom Brown.

667
00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:49,980
At Tom Brown we have all of your, it's a really an entry level for all of our kiddos to be involved

668
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:51,440
in extra-curricular activities.

669
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:58,540
When we go to grant or act in, or hamburger, or whatever, those opportunities are going to

670
00:57:58,540 --> 00:58:02,300
be stressed at best and eliminated at worse.

671
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,380
And the example that I'm going to give is volleyball, and Tom Brown, and I don't know

672
00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:12,300
the numbers, but we start the year and we have 25, 30 girls that want to play volleyball.

673
00:58:12,820 --> 00:58:15,560
And they have probably 45 girls in a grand.

674
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,220
Now we're going to ship them all, we're going to put them all in grand.

675
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:22,780
And now we have 70 girls that are trying to make a volleyball team.

676
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,100
Somebody's going to get cut, somebody's not going to make the team.

677
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,480
Somebody's not going to have that opportunity

678
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,680
that if we have Tom Brown is still playing volleyball

679
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,960
and Grant's still playing volleyball,

680
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,980
but we have kiddos that have that opportunity.

681
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:41,600
And I'm going to say the phrase that everybody loves to hear,

682
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,680
data shows that the kiddos, if they're

683
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,220
involved in an extra click of the activities,

684
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,260
and you can fill that blank in with anything,

685
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:53,860
and especially at middle school, they're

686
00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:57,600
better and their attendance is better. So when we eliminate those

687
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,600
opportunities, so at what cost is that elimination? Well, we're looking at

688
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:08,220
Tom Brown, $2 million, we're gonna save $2 million. So those kiddos that may

689
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:12,840
or may not have that opportunity, we can say we have two gyms, we're not gonna cut,

690
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,960
we're not everybody's gonna have, but there's a difference between me being the

691
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,360
starting center at Tom Brown Middle School and me being the the B team center at

692
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,540
rent middle school or vice versa, I mean grant middle school now is the starting center now

693
00:59:26,540 --> 00:59:33,700
on the BT that opportunity or in band or the dance teams that they have or any of the clubs

694
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:40,280
organizations when we start closing schools and I know y'all know this that we close those opportunities

695
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:46,880
and so myodillus is we're trying to save money and the conversation we had the other day

696
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:56,840
And our meeting is that this is really eight million dollars in the twenty-seven-million dollar deficit or three hundred fifty-million dollar budget is really kind of a drop.

697
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,960
I would like to have us really become...

698
01:00:00,820 --> 01:00:07,100
The big savings, wherever that is, because we know where the things savings are in this, in our district.

699
01:00:08,260 --> 01:00:16,540
We need to do this, I know we need to do this, but I'm not so sure closing middle schools and affecting the high schools is the way to go.

700
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,160
I think the elementary schools we need to take a hard look at.

701
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:25,100
Martin is something that we need to take a look at because of the academic performance.

702
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:28,360
Tom Brown was struggling about five or six years ago.

703
01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:31,240
Y'all made a change over there with leadership,

704
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,160
and they have just done this.

705
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,180
Just done that.

706
01:00:34,180 --> 01:00:37,240
That community is really rallied around Tom Brown.

707
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:40,900
Middle School now, we're talking about closing it.

708
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:44,720
Academically, I don't think it makes sense for us to do that.

709
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:48,120
That's definitely the conversation I think we need to have as we go

710
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,080
forward with the community.

711
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,280
One question, and this is for you, Karen, when you get started,

712
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:04,000
I know that when we start shuffling and combining and closing in all of that, and we had

713
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:12,880
a brief talk about that yesterday, in terms of our staffers and teachers, and your response

714
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:23,720
to me was that you will make great efforts to accommodate the increase in students and that

715
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:33,060
You will do what you can, the best you can to staff each of these locations that are being in students are increasing.

716
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:53,340
What I like to see are if possible and this is a lot of work and I know what I'm asking is that with each one of these closures, could you give us some type of numbers in terms of how much we're going to say

717
01:01:53,340 --> 01:02:00,000
based on closures, the staffers that are going to be moved from one location to the other.

718
01:02:00,140 --> 01:02:04,020
And I know it's hypothetical, because you've got to make those decisions if it happens.

719
01:02:05,380 --> 01:02:07,000
But what's the savings?

720
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,100
How many people are we going to have to cut completely out of our roles?

721
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:18,840
The one thing I do, law and CCI's D for, is the fact that every time we've made a move

722
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:35,740
in some way, you all have really tried to not fire or cut teachers and I really appreciate that and I know that the teachers will also or instructors, whoever, they appreciate that as well.

723
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:48,700
But what I'd like to see is the result, the hypothetical results of each of these movements in consolidating and closing in all that ultimately.

724
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:54,480
of what it would look like, since we have the numbers of the students, you know how many

725
01:02:54,480 --> 01:03:02,860
we're going to be shifting, what the need is, how much it's going to cost, and then ultimately,

726
01:03:03,820 --> 01:03:07,920
how many potentially will be let go.

727
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:12,160
So let's move on to the

728
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,660
answering that question.

729
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:32,880
I think the questions have been good, great that have been asked and the considerations, but two things academically is something that really we have spent a lot of time in looking at these considerations.

730
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:42,240
And, you know, Dr. Clement has already indicated that staff is already, even before any major

731
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:47,980
considerations or decisions are made, looking at those situations, Marty, for example,

732
01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:54,680
that you explained or asked about it and Mrs. Halkins, because it's not only athletics,

733
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:01,700
but the primary issue is instruction and the support that we've given. And I like what Dr.

734
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:06,700
The climate had mentioned that, you know, as you consolidate, you have schools and that are

735
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:11,680
have reduced in numbers and you're able to more appropriately address some of those

736
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,720
academic needs.

737
01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:15,900
Athletically, though, I wanted to kind of make a comment.

738
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:23,800
And Mr. Bill, you talk about, you know, possibly depleting the opportunity for participation.

739
01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:30,680
One of the things that I've seen, for example, and I use Carol as an example, the fact that

740
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:36,520
program has increased like it has, has provided the opportunity for more involvement in that,

741
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:42,440
and I'll speak, let's say, especially about basketball. I mean, it's getting football. You

742
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:48,880
have additional teams at each level, freshmen, and during university that have been fielded

743
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:55,580
that gives more opportunity for participation, but even a better opportunity for that program

744
01:04:55,580 --> 01:05:01,160
to develop. And then that has happened also in volleyball. I've got nine dollars that have

745
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:07,220
participated. And they also have multiple A&B teams at every level, freshman and sophomore.

746
01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:14,160
I mean, and with junior varsity, so I'm not certain that in any consolidation effort,

747
01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:18,300
they don't understand what you're saying. At this school, I might be the starting quarterback

748
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:24,380
because of this, my opportunity for next year is not to be that. And it's all about competition

749
01:05:24,380 --> 01:05:31,900
development and hard work as a parent of seeing that happen and how things changed for some

750
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:38,900
of our children's athletic possibilities. They work hard, you make a commitment, but I really

751
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:43,920
also give a lot of credit to our sponsors or in that respect as far as athletics to coaches.

752
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:54,360
They really feel, I guess, more committed to their programs when they know that they have

753
01:05:54,380 --> 01:05:59,480
a multitude of students to work at and knowing that it's not going to be, I'm going to cut

754
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:06,360
20 of 45 people that come by. It's not going to have an opportunity to really have a strong

755
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:13,220
A and B team at my freshman and junior varsity level in whatever sport that we look at.

756
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,660
So, you know, given I'm not a coach, I've not been a coach, but I've seen how those things have

757
01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:29,020
involved with my children being athletic students, but also in seeing how the program, for example,

758
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:35,920
where Carol has really increased and to a very positive level and, yes, not only does

759
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:42,640
it impact academics, but the enthusiasm and the culture of the community just kind of rises

760
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:50,720
to itself and it does increase attendance. It just has a positive effect. But I think that

761
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:57,060
in athletics, if you have the opportunity to have 100 people to students to pick from to

762
01:06:57,060 --> 01:07:01,560
know that you're going to have the varsity, the junior varsity, and freshman have multiple

763
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:07,140
opportunities and teams. I think that's a real plus in consolidations. Thank you.

764
01:07:09,220 --> 01:07:11,800
Okay, so let's go on estimated cost savings.

765
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,480
So I want to, this is all in the general fund and these are real.

766
01:07:16,620 --> 01:07:19,440
So when you look at the salaries for fiscal year 26,

767
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,040
this is our budget and this is how much it's costing us in salaries

768
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,700
at each one of these campuses.

769
01:07:25,340 --> 01:07:30,660
Now, I want to reiterate that 80% of our budget is salaries.

770
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,480
So if we're going to do cuts, this is where we're going to do cuts is in

771
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,340
salaries because that's where the district is going to find the dollars.

772
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,580
So, when you look at sellers, you can see that these campuses...

773
01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:43,340
Is it truly 80%.

774
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,360
It could be 82, I need to go back to that.

775
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,100
But it's any 80s, yes, sir.

776
01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:52,040
So, then you have your salary amount, you have your utilities.

777
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,460
So, these are what we actually spent in fiscal year 25.

778
01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,180
So, we're showing you actual amounts that we spent in utilities in 2025.

779
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,680
And then in 2026, this is the actual amount that we're paying this year for insurance on these facilities.

780
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:10,580
So, you can see the grand total is about 24.5 million dollars just on these campuses alone.

781
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,920
Now, when you see the conservative estimate savings, what we did is we went in and we said,

782
01:08:15,180 --> 01:08:19,860
okay, we can solidate this is the number of employees that can be reduced.

783
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,100
What I can't predict is who's going to leave for instance.

784
01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:28,680
If I have a brand new teacher with her salary in benefits, that may be cost me around 65,

785
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:38,520
I could have a veteran teacher that's 25 years plus and so I'm paying her close to 95,000 with salary and benefits.

786
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,560
I don't know which one is going to leave.

787
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,240
I don't know which one is staying.

788
01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:47,000
So I can't give you that's why this is conservative because I'm going to go on the lower.

789
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:52,760
Just to be on the safe side to say that I can assure that we're going to save this amount of money.

790
01:08:53,060 --> 01:08:58,660
That's why I'm giving you the conservative amount of money because I know I'm going to

791
01:08:58,660 --> 01:09:04,040
more we're anticipating more but again I can't I don't have that crystal ball to tell you who's

792
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,700
going to leave me at the end of the year so that's why it's very hard for me to answer that

793
01:09:08,700 --> 01:09:14,380
question so we went on the basis of the lower lower on the salary pay grade but I do know

794
01:09:14,380 --> 01:09:18,620
that I'm going to save my utilities and I do know that I'm going to save on my insurance you will

795
01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:23,040
see that hoffs is highlighted in gray and the reason why that one is highlighted in gray is

796
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:27,020
because we don't anticipate closing that campus

797
01:09:27,020 --> 01:09:29,020
as far as demolishing it.

798
01:09:29,180 --> 01:09:32,240
Now, we are going to recommend that the other ones be demolished,

799
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,440
but a host we would like to keep and we'll find another use.

800
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,620
It will not be for students,

801
01:09:37,020 --> 01:09:38,560
but we'll find another use internally

802
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,140
because that school still has good bones to it.

803
01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:43,840
And so we don't really want that one.

804
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,600
So we'll have to keep the utilities on,

805
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:46,860
and we'll have to keep insurance.

806
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,740
So that's the reason why that one is highlighted in gray,

807
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:51,700
and it's a lesser amount that we would save

808
01:09:51,700 --> 01:10:02,760
keeping that building open. But again, the salaries are where you find the savings. Okay, and then the room when you look at it is costing us money to keep these buildings open.

809
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:10,720
And so in all these plans that we presented to you, you'll see that we are moving these kids with the exception of the elementary plan one.

810
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:19,720
You'll see that they're all going to our newer underutilized school. So it's a benefit to these students. All these students will be benefiting from this

811
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,500
from these moves and that's what we've got to keep in mind as the students and the best interest

812
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:31,360
of what's good for our students. So that's where these numbers are coming from and that is the

813
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:36,260
conservative estimate that we are reassessure that we're going to save but our hope is that we're

814
01:10:36,260 --> 01:10:37,700
going to save even more.

815
01:10:41,950 --> 01:10:46,090
That's if all this is done in one veil swoop, correct? And if it's not,

816
01:10:46,210 --> 01:10:51,590
we can always just take the line item if you decide to only do elementary schools then you can take

817
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:55,990
estimated seven that's why I broke it down by campus for you so you can estimate that would

818
01:10:55,990 --> 01:11:03,850
what that would be estimated per campus. If you wanted to do just each part or these schools

819
01:11:03,850 --> 01:11:09,570
and not these schools that's why I broke it down for by school for you. Well and I guess I guess that

820
01:11:10,450 --> 01:11:18,290
I'm not as clear on this money thing as I should be or maybe it's above my pay grade or whatever,

821
01:11:18,290 --> 01:11:25,360
But it's say everything remains the same in terms of how many

822
01:11:25,930 --> 01:11:34,690
lawyers we have and when we do the shake out of all of these schools or whatever.

823
01:11:36,690 --> 01:11:38,250
That is going to affect.

824
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:42,810
I understand this business about who stays and who decides to go.

825
01:11:43,230 --> 01:11:43,930
I get that.

826
01:11:43,930 --> 01:11:56,710
But across the board without any changes in terms of loss of employees, how would that affect this?

827
01:11:58,050 --> 01:12:07,590
If you take every day right now as it is, and in one bill's will move it, this is the number.

828
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:09,350
That's what you're telling us.

829
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:09,850
Yes.

830
01:12:09,850 --> 01:12:11,530
The 10 million.

831
01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:12,750
Almost 11 million.

832
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:13,930
Almost 11 million.

833
01:12:13,950 --> 01:12:15,170
And that's a conservative number.

834
01:12:15,190 --> 01:12:19,410
That's based on saying that you're taking the lowest teachers out.

835
01:12:20,290 --> 01:12:25,750
So if we throw a range in the works and decide that we're only going to do a portion

836
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:30,630
of this, then can we just extrapolate that from this number?

837
01:12:30,890 --> 01:12:31,030
Yeah.

838
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:33,670
That's why I broke it to you by campus.

839
01:12:34,230 --> 01:12:39,270
So you can just take the campuses that you are wanting to close and you can take those

840
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:40,850
amounts to see what you're going to save.

841
01:12:41,210 --> 01:12:42,690
All things remain in the same.

842
01:12:44,670 --> 01:12:45,610
OK, yes.

843
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:46,570
I think

844
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,920
Karen and just making sure that this is understood

845
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,000
that doesn't include the average maintenance cost.

846
01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:10,040
No, I don't know.

847
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:13,400
I took those aside because I can't predict

848
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,740
from one year or two and another.

849
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,940
Just like we were looking at some of the schools.

850
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,060
Some of them may have seen.

851
01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:20,620
We're going to regardless of what it was though,

852
01:13:20,780 --> 01:13:22,440
would be in addition to this amount.

853
01:13:22,740 --> 01:13:22,960
Correct.

854
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:41,010
about

855
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,920
any questions on this?

856
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:58,600
I'm not realize it's not in this factored in the same way, but there is some cost associated with this plan as well, right?

857
01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:14,800
Just the implementation, if we went with this full plan with a new roof on a building or some improvements, like you said, to a couple of the schools that need to be improved in order to accommodate the new students.

858
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:21,320
is going in, et cetera, but no, they're not in this figure, but they're in a different part

859
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,500
of the budget, but there is going to be some cost associated.

860
01:14:23,780 --> 01:14:29,820
Yes, correct. And for instance, on Shannon States, we're keeping Shannon States, we did

861
01:14:29,820 --> 01:14:35,800
go out and look at a different option for the reruf. Right now, it was costing us about 3.4

862
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:42,000
million. Trying to go out and get a different quote on a, what is it called? I'd like a

863
01:14:43,380 --> 01:14:49,560
A coding roof, instead of doing that, there are some that have to be some issues that have to be fixed because of the roof.

864
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:56,960
But we came back and we got a price of about a $1.2 million to re-roof that instead of the 3.4.

865
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,520
So we would look at that, but that would come out of our capital.

866
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,600
Capital outlay fund, it wouldn't come out of 1,99. But yes, there would also be some probably upgrades that we would want to do to some of these other campuses just to reinforcement and make sure that they were ready.

867
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:20,160
And I would bring those back to you. And that was kind of the reason why the committee also recommended that selling these other lands to kind of offset those costs as well.

868
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,520
That we would know that we'll need to put into some of these buildings.

869
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:30,140
When you say coding, is that that stuff that's talking about spraying on top of the roof?

870
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:36,940
And you've got to look like a new roof in the last five years, is that the same thing that we're talking about?

871
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,280
The coding itself is not sprayed on.

872
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:46,860
It's actually rolled on the surface.

873
01:15:47,700 --> 01:15:50,980
Campuses won't even know that contractors are actually on the roof.

874
01:15:50,980 --> 01:15:57,620
It's, there's no disturbance to anybody inside or anything like that, but it's typically

875
01:15:57,620 --> 01:16:05,600
less to work a less about a week and rolled on and how much, how many, and you said,

876
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,120
that would buy us five years, did I hear that or am I hearing something else?

877
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,160
What's it going to buy for us if we do something like that?

878
01:16:13,180 --> 01:16:19,120
It would buy us a significant time to make a long-term decision that's kind of supporting us

879
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,040
long-term wise.

880
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,080
but I would say at least five to seven at the minimum.

881
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:25,040
Years.

882
01:16:27,780 --> 01:16:28,000
OK.

883
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:30,580
I think it has a longer warranty.

884
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:33,200
Well, it's got a longer lifespan for it,

885
01:16:33,380 --> 01:16:37,000
but I'm saying, like, if we wanted to warranty itself

886
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,140
is 20 years ago.

887
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,640
Do you look at it?

888
01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:47,960
I'm telling you, we need some clarity on this.

889
01:16:48,020 --> 01:16:51,000
Yeah, no, the silicon roofing itself, the warranty

890
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,520
is a 20-year roof warranty, but it's going to buy a significant

891
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,860
in time to make a proper decision here.

892
01:16:59,220 --> 01:17:05,640
But the 20 year warranty is that just standard across the border, is it based on the condition

893
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,640
of the roof?

894
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,860
Before you do all that.

895
01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:09,940
That's a standard warranty that's what's the product.

896
01:17:10,820 --> 01:17:13,960
So if they go out, spray the roof, you've got 20 year guarantee.

897
01:17:13,980 --> 01:17:14,300
Yes.

898
01:17:14,380 --> 01:17:18,180
And we just call that contractor back and they'll come back and make those repairs if there's

899
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:19,380
any repairs that need to be made.

900
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:27,400
Okay, so the reputation of the company that's doing it too is in question as well, right,

901
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:33,720
because these people go into business, make a quick dollar and jump out, and then where are we?

902
01:17:35,420 --> 01:17:36,340
Is that reality?

903
01:17:38,660 --> 01:17:39,420
Thank you. Yes.

904
01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:40,400
All right. Okay.

905
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,120
That would be what it makes for me.

906
01:17:42,460 --> 01:17:46,460
We stay on track, because this is something we will definitely discuss when this comes up

907
01:17:46,460 --> 01:17:51,320
I mean, we can just cut that further when it comes up for applause.

908
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:53,540
I'm going to jump into this so that's going to sing.

909
01:17:53,660 --> 01:17:54,480
We're going to jump again.

910
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,280
But it's a single member membrane.

911
01:17:58,620 --> 01:17:59,120
Correct.

912
01:17:59,460 --> 01:18:00,720
It's a cell that comes based on it.

913
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:03,620
It's being used all across the state.

914
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:05,340
Engel side installed it.

915
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:07,540
Because I've just decided it's a form during the hailstorm.

916
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:10,320
There was no damage during the hailstorm whatsoever.

917
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:16,240
I had myself and George Dyer went out and walked the entire room on the elementary school

918
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,160
they just did, they did all of the vertical surfaces,

919
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:24,900
they'd done all of the flat work surfaces.

920
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,420
There were some areas they had to come in and prep prior,

921
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,320
which they did prior to that.

922
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,180
It was a primer put down before,

923
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,200
they cleaned the surface, they could all of the loose

924
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,960
period and other stuff off of the top of the roof,

925
01:18:37,180 --> 01:18:38,160
so it goes into your property.

926
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,080
So it's a very good product.

927
01:18:45,260 --> 01:18:46,560
It's what it's been you.

928
01:18:46,660 --> 01:18:48,900
Yeah, I understand that, but you have to understand

929
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:51,460
my skepticism as a female being taking

930
01:18:51,460 --> 01:18:52,460
your own business.

931
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,980
I have to ask these questions because these are the things

932
01:18:55,980 --> 01:18:58,760
that I experience on a day-to-day basis.

933
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,280
And I know some of you out there do the same thing.

934
01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:05,060
So you have to, I mean, I'm asking that you honor that

935
01:19:05,060 --> 01:19:08,140
because I've had these experiences.

936
01:19:08,820 --> 01:19:11,420
So that is all I need to hear is if you guys

937
01:19:11,420 --> 01:19:13,820
are kind of backing this stuff up.

938
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,920
That's why I want to hear that expertise.

939
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,960
That's also a point that if we're going to pursue something like this, is to, you

940
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,560
will fact check and go out there and really see how it performs.

941
01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:29,940
They also did their admin building, no damage there as well, so I think it's a very good

942
01:19:29,940 --> 01:19:30,340
product.

943
01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:33,860
There's other people that went with me that agreed with it.

944
01:19:35,140 --> 01:19:37,400
I know sales are actually trying to.

945
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:45,080
Okay, my final question is, is there other prep work that may need to be done in order

946
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,860
to use this silicone based on the condition of the existing roof?

947
01:19:50,340 --> 01:19:54,580
And that's what we try to do on our facility of assistance.

948
01:19:54,820 --> 01:19:57,220
We do a roofing assessments and things like that.

949
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:01,040
See what we need to prepare prior to doing the roof work.

950
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:05,260
I'd rather do it right the first time than going back and having to redo something else.

951
01:20:05,620 --> 01:20:05,980
Okay.

952
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:06,720
Yes, we did.

953
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,720
We had MTEC go off there and they took a look at it.

954
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,720
There was some spots that they did recommend that we would need to fix.

955
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:18,420
And so they did come and say that yes, along with this, there's certain areas that would

956
01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:21,340
and the total cost came out to about 1.2 million.

957
01:20:21,740 --> 01:20:22,440
So that's what I'm saying.

958
01:20:22,660 --> 01:20:26,660
So with those repairs and with some of the other stuff, what can be overland because not

959
01:20:26,660 --> 01:20:34,080
every roof is a candidate for this type of product, but this one is and so yes, we would

960
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,840
use that in the areas where the glass and the ceiling meet, you know, because you have

961
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,120
has that waffle? Yes, there was some areas that need to be addressed. We would take care

962
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,000
of that at that time, too, and that was included in that cost.

963
01:20:47,540 --> 01:20:50,640
So, and this is a Shannon, right? This is a Shannon state system.

964
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:59,600
Okay, so are there other roofs in our district that we need to maybe consider using this as

965
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:06,120
And we do have that that that was remember our Miller roof that we were trying to do that one came in way over budget as well

966
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,960
So we went back to go look at this one and we'll be we will be bringing that one back to the board

967
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,620
And we're gonna do the same thing. We've got part of it that is eligible for this type of everything

968
01:21:15,620 --> 01:21:22,700
So we're gonna do that on the parts that can't do that. We can do this type of method with and the other will be repaired

969
01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:26,440
So it at Miller will be a hyperhead based on the the current

970
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:32,580
roof type. So yes, and we'll be in now we have it in budget and we'll be bringing it back to y'all for approval.

971
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,480
And last question, Primes.

972
01:21:36,940 --> 01:21:45,740
So is using this technology, is that going to be a costing us less than the traditional thing?

973
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:46,780
Okay.

974
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:51,290
And this is totally off subject.

975
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:55,250
But the group working at Club of States on the roof right now.

976
01:21:55,250 --> 01:22:01,090
I'm very impressed with those guys. They get there at dark. They leave at dark. They have portable lights

977
01:22:01,770 --> 01:22:06,190
Make sure you stop buying and give those guys a kudos and so they're doing a really

978
01:22:06,190 --> 01:22:08,010
Bang-up job there

979
01:22:08,010 --> 01:22:12,030
I don't know. That's a good quiet. I'll get up there

980
01:22:12,030 --> 01:22:18,630
Let's have a stop list this about that. Hey, I did Johnson control systems

981
01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:23,890
We have a dedicated money every year that we're paying those folks, right?

982
01:22:23,890 --> 01:22:29,790
Yes. That was in your contract. Yes. Right. That didn't end in the contract and we still got another 20 years or something.

983
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:32,230
Not 20, but I believe it ends in 2030.

984
01:22:33,310 --> 01:22:38,930
2030? Yeah. I think it's 2030. About five more years. It's a long time.

985
01:22:39,670 --> 01:22:45,110
But so, of these schools that we're looking at closing are any of them,

986
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:47,910
any of them serviced under that contract.

987
01:22:51,170 --> 01:22:52,670
And so the whole reason I'm asking is,

988
01:22:52,830 --> 01:22:54,030
we're looking at closing schools

989
01:22:54,030 --> 01:22:55,630
and possibly tearing them down,

990
01:22:56,270 --> 01:22:57,670
but yet we don't even have the stuff

991
01:22:57,670 --> 01:23:00,990
that we upgraded to those schools,

992
01:23:01,270 --> 01:23:03,910
not even paid for yet, or...

993
01:23:04,970 --> 01:23:07,890
I can look into that, because I don't quite know

994
01:23:07,890 --> 01:23:09,270
which ones, because that was before my time,

995
01:23:09,290 --> 01:23:10,810
but I can get that answer for it.

996
01:23:10,890 --> 01:23:13,290
It was right, but Dr. Nens was coming on,

997
01:23:17,650 --> 01:23:19,430
and I know that Tom Brown,

998
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:25,790
had a lot of stuff done and you might want to come back and just update the board and give

999
01:23:25,790 --> 01:23:32,790
them a quick overview of what happened and why we have that dedicated, I think it's like

1000
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:41,590
$89 million a year for a, and to be sure that we're realizing the savings that we were

1001
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:46,770
supposed to, to realize on that stuff and why we did it and all it just kind of, is because

1002
01:23:46,770 --> 01:23:52,850
So that's a lot of money that we're dedicated every year to our fund balance to pay.

1003
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:57,750
But I'd really like to see which schools are being under consideration and how much money

1004
01:23:57,750 --> 01:24:01,150
was actually allocated towards that particular campus.

1005
01:24:02,010 --> 01:24:02,710
Thank you.

1006
01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:08,740
Anything else on savings or money?

1007
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,900
Also, I just thought of something also when we were talking about, you know, like we have

1008
01:24:13,900 --> 01:24:16,320
title one funds that also help these other schools.

1009
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,960
So, by closing these other schools, that means that other resources and additional allocations

1010
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,700
could be moved forward, especially like in our State Comp Ed, and some of our other areas

1011
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:31,300
that we could be moving away from these campuses to go towards these other campuses for additional

1012
01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:32,580
help and support as well.

1013
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,660
So, that isn't considered in these numbers, but that's an additional budgetary item.

1014
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,780
But I was just trying to give the board real numbers, numbers that you could actually see that

1015
01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:48,460
could commit to, and so that's why I'm saying it's a conservative effort. I know

1016
01:24:48,460 --> 01:24:52,600
what a minimal will save this, but we are anticipating more.

1017
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,320
What is our budget on the title one?

1018
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,100
He just said, we, we,

1019
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:05,820
and so we do an

1020
01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:10,740
allocation by campus. I know, but what's the, what's the bottom, what's in the

1021
01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:13,420
bucket? I need to go back and look at that.

1022
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,120
When you say it changes, you're talking

1023
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:23,760
but annually yes. Yes. That's yeah, I don't. You don't have the book with you, do you?

1024
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,040
I'm a child. I'm just kidding.

1025
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:39,760
You got your, you got your, but I'm talking about what?

1026
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:51,390
But how does it come down to trickle down to me?

1027
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:53,980
Yes.

1028
01:25:58,500 --> 01:26:03,780
Okay, okay, Dr. Clement is giving me schooling me right now on Title 1.

1029
01:26:04,940 --> 01:26:09,560
Okay. Okay. Good. And so I'd like to just ask,

1030
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:15,720
And when we have another meeting, if you could bring us that and break it down, so we could understand that.

1031
01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:16,620
I think it's going to give it to you.

1032
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,560
Well, financials.

1033
01:26:19,180 --> 01:26:19,480
Okay.

1034
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:21,120
Yes.

1035
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,740
Hi, we brought his book.

1036
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:29,780
And I think these are, there's going to lead to more questions that we can probably delve into in another meeting.

1037
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,540
Probably to see an eye committee meeting that would be really valuable.

1038
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,760
And I think for the purposes of this meeting, we should probably get back on track with our facilities,

1039
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,020
conversation.

1040
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,160
This is why we are meeting today.

1041
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:52,980
I realize that we do have this information primarily coming to us, but there is a momentum

1042
01:26:52,980 --> 01:27:01,120
building here and an understanding, and this is what we call in our classroom teachable moments

1043
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:12,120
where these things come up and I would really appreciate the latitude or given us that opportunity to ask these questions because I will tell you

1044
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:24,860
I'm always told me strike while the iron is hot and right now my mind is on that and if you would just allow us some latitude I'd appreciate it

1045
01:27:24,860 --> 01:27:30,360
Do the extent that we actually have the information if we don't know we have so last year

1046
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:37,700
we spent a 19 million and Amanda, she's watching from afar and she just sent me this

1047
01:27:37,700 --> 01:27:39,480
year, it's 16 million.

1048
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,360
So, I've just titled one funds.

1049
01:27:42,900 --> 01:27:44,000
Just titled one.

1050
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:48,260
I do want to, this is my make it easier only because to give out a whole big number doesn't

1051
01:27:48,260 --> 01:27:50,080
give you context as to how it's used.

1052
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:56,640
Amanda Cameron did present on this and how all those funds are used for each grant just a couple of months ago

1053
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:02,100
We can take that PowerPoint and resend it in board update. It'll give you a lot more information than we can with a whole number

1054
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:04,200
Now, we'll do that this week

1055
01:28:05,540 --> 01:28:11,700
Okay, so moving on to our communication plan. So we're having this facility workshop today and so this afternoon

1056
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:19,500
A letter will be sent out to all our parents, staff and community with a general overview of this discussion and the items being considered and

1057
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:21,440
and opportunities for feedback.

1058
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:24,720
The weeks of when we come back from Thanksgiving break,

1059
01:28:24,740 --> 01:28:27,800
so the weeks of December 1st of the 19th,

1060
01:28:27,940 --> 01:28:29,800
and also when we come back from Christmas break,

1061
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,300
the week of January 5th through 9th,

1062
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,860
we would like to have listening sessions

1063
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:36,720
with the community and campus staff,

1064
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,040
and we will have one at each campus

1065
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,120
just to have these listening sessions,

1066
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,520
and also a Zoom opportunity for those

1067
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,480
that cannot meet those to make sure

1068
01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:48,100
that we are hearing back from our community.

1069
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:57,420
And then on we will bring this back to the board for possible board action on January 12th and that will be at the discretion of the board.

1070
01:29:00,130 --> 01:29:04,330
This was in our meeting yesterday and I thought it was pretty good conversation.

1071
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:11,410
Okay, we I think the way we're doing it coming out today right after with this is what discuss and discuss is good.

1072
01:29:11,530 --> 01:29:18,950
That's a good thing I think having listening and getting community feedback from all the all the people that are involved is a good thing.

1073
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:47,290
But the perception is is that, well, we've already made up of this made up of mine and we're just going to go check some boxes off so that when we come back on January the 12th we're already going to do what we're going to do and I think somewhere in there we need to take our feedback and and come back maybe one more time and say okay we really had the the fan of community really rose up and said you know we're ready to go

1074
01:29:47,290 --> 01:29:54,090
We'll help box up everything and this goes, so that looks like a win there, but then you have another community say,

1075
01:29:54,550 --> 01:29:59,990
No, we really want to, you know, we like what we got going on here and we can't give them.

1076
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,740
We have enough information where they say, okay, we understand why we're doing what we're doing.

1077
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:17,860
And I don't know, maybe I'm just one person on the board, but having another conversation after we, and we may have all this conversation, it may not warrant it.

1078
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:28,540
I just don't want us to get back to into a hard January, the 12th, let's make a decision. And I understand that there's an art to closing schools and re-staffing people.

1079
01:30:28,540 --> 01:30:38,040
And I get that. But at the same time, this is going to be a monumental decision that this board makes.

1080
01:30:38,380 --> 01:30:44,480
It's going to be a very huge decision that's going to affect families all across our school district.

1081
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:52,020
There won't probably very few people will not be touched by this by the decisions that we make when we do this right here.

1082
01:30:52,020 --> 01:31:00,740
And so I want us to be sure that we do it respectfully with a lot of information and a lot of conversation.

1083
01:31:18,630 --> 01:31:23,610
There's magic happening over here, there I can't control. Several things.

1084
01:31:24,150 --> 01:31:34,550
Number one, certainly as part of the committee that has worked hand in hand with the administration and their staff,

1085
01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:47,310
You know, it's, as we undertook this responsibility and really looked at that, expansively, all the things that I think that have been brought up have been excellent.

1086
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:58,550
Some of these were anticipated others have been new and let me assure you it's all been noted and we've noted it and those are things that we're going to go back and look at.

1087
01:31:58,550 --> 01:32:03,330
But this is the beginning, you know, many of the things that we've talked to, the main thing

1088
01:32:03,330 --> 01:32:08,510
is, excuse me, as we started the process, and this process started on August of 13th.

1089
01:32:08,890 --> 01:32:17,890
We have a new procedural aspect of our operations that, you know, give credit to our four

1090
01:32:17,890 --> 01:32:24,610
president of Mr. Villariol. And in dividing our board to kind of really dig deep in some of these

1091
01:32:24,610 --> 01:32:31,730
issues. This finance committee has really risen to that challenge and done well to kind

1092
01:32:31,730 --> 01:32:38,250
of bring forth information. Our general initial goal was to have a workshop that was

1093
01:32:38,250 --> 01:32:43,110
meaningful and purposeful and with intent to make sure that we gave you as much information

1094
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:48,390
as possible. Knowing that certainly it would generate either additional curiosity,

1095
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:53,290
to be more important, more importantly, key questions that I think we need to answer.

1096
01:32:54,250 --> 01:32:59,230
Many of the questions are involved in the next steps that we need to undertake.

1097
01:32:59,410 --> 01:33:00,950
Today was just facilities.

1098
01:33:01,870 --> 01:33:06,810
Facilities has an impact largely as far as finances that we're trying to address.

1099
01:33:07,550 --> 01:33:15,150
The facilities will really, when you look at the deficit of $27 million, it may be just a

1100
01:33:15,150 --> 01:33:19,710
time in the bucket, as far as what we're looking at to address a deficit budget.

1101
01:33:20,170 --> 01:33:25,770
But that was our goal that we undertook, as Finance Committee, to work with the administration

1102
01:33:25,770 --> 01:33:33,290
and to share information with the entire board, that this is an issue that it's not going

1103
01:33:33,290 --> 01:33:35,650
to be able to be done today completely.

1104
01:33:35,930 --> 01:33:42,190
There's no way that we're going to cover the total deficit and this address of information

1105
01:33:42,190 --> 01:33:49,690
and we're going to do, yes, these are major decisions that we're looking at to make, as Mr.

1106
01:33:50,970 --> 01:33:56,790
Clark mentioned, these are things that are happening across the state, and these are things

1107
01:33:56,790 --> 01:33:59,830
that are not comfortable, but then things that need to be done.

1108
01:34:00,390 --> 01:34:05,370
I know, and as Hawkins mentioned in another meeting, that we may have to make some hard decisions

1109
01:34:05,370 --> 01:34:09,930
in reference to different things that we've discussed today.

1110
01:34:09,930 --> 01:34:16,970
But in the end, we want to try to give all of us the best opportunity to collect the data.

1111
01:34:17,350 --> 01:34:19,950
Here are the questions and other issues that we need to address.

1112
01:34:20,410 --> 01:34:25,410
Try to get that as fully as possible to be able to make the best decision for whatever we're doing.

1113
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:30,830
Because today's resources, we are going to have to look comprehensively as far as staffing.

1114
01:34:31,390 --> 01:34:33,970
We need to look at comprehensively as far as enrollment.

1115
01:34:33,970 --> 01:34:38,990
And, you know, today's figure about being a thousand plus under what we

1116
01:34:38,990 --> 01:34:39,970
predicted is major.

1117
01:34:40,090 --> 01:34:41,670
You see that financial impact.

1118
01:34:42,390 --> 01:34:47,490
And then, of course, in the end, totally, you know, Mrs. Griffith talked about, we

1119
01:34:47,490 --> 01:34:50,330
start to brought a new budget process in February.

1120
01:34:51,190 --> 01:34:56,030
Well, the budget, you know, the budget is a reflection of our community's values.

1121
01:34:56,850 --> 01:35:01,150
But the other, again, the budget is what we need to work on, because that's what we determine

1122
01:35:01,150 --> 01:35:05,870
how this money is going to be spent to support our community and the district and the things

1123
01:35:05,870 --> 01:35:07,070
that we're doing for our students.

1124
01:35:10,510 --> 01:35:17,550
It is a big chunk that we need to look at, but I have hope and there are some entities that

1125
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:19,390
say that hope is just the beginning of disappointment.

1126
01:35:20,190 --> 01:35:26,170
I ran a look at it is the beginning of what it is that we're going to do to work to do

1127
01:35:26,170 --> 01:35:29,650
the best we can to whittle at our deficit.

1128
01:35:29,650 --> 01:35:32,510
It can't happen in one year. There's no way that that can happen.

1129
01:35:33,010 --> 01:35:37,650
But we're going to look at everything as deep as we can with a support and the direction

1130
01:35:37,650 --> 01:35:39,670
and some of the suggestions from the administration.

1131
01:35:40,370 --> 01:35:43,710
But also with ultimately the things that we need to look at,

1132
01:35:43,850 --> 01:35:48,950
data wise, personal wise, personal wise, emotional wise,

1133
01:35:49,530 --> 01:35:53,310
or always standing to see what we can do to make our best decision.

1134
01:35:53,310 --> 01:35:59,870
But we do see a future of additional informative work

1135
01:35:59,870 --> 01:36:02,310
stuff like this to cover some of these key things

1136
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:03,170
that I've just mentioned.

1137
01:36:03,810 --> 01:36:07,890
But I'm really encouraged with the work that's being done.

1138
01:36:08,050 --> 01:36:11,230
I'm encouraged with the information that all of us are sharing.

1139
01:36:11,890 --> 01:36:14,350
But the most important thing about that encouragement,

1140
01:36:14,450 --> 01:36:16,790
ultimately, that it's going to give us the best choices

1141
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:19,430
to make the best decisions for the good of our students.

1142
01:36:20,050 --> 01:36:21,970
And certainly the family of CCI's D.

1143
01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:27,950
So I just wanted to thank the administration for working with us, thank the committee for asking

1144
01:36:27,950 --> 01:36:29,590
many tough and candid questions.

1145
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:34,410
But more importantly, I also thank all of us here in some of the things that we've shared

1146
01:36:34,410 --> 01:36:40,470
discussing, we'll look at and try to refine and come back and making some of the decisions

1147
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:42,970
we need to make a couple of months from now.

1148
01:36:43,150 --> 01:36:46,690
But a mattress and look forward to our communication plan.

1149
01:36:46,690 --> 01:36:53,590
And yes, Mr. Bell, things may come where we need to re-look at, we anticipate that.

1150
01:36:53,690 --> 01:36:57,370
We want to have community input and I think that's a highlight of something that we're

1151
01:36:57,370 --> 01:37:02,890
doing that maybe has been done in the past, but needs to be done now and look forward

1152
01:37:02,890 --> 01:37:03,830
for that input.

1153
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:04,930
Thank you very much.

1154
01:37:05,090 --> 01:37:05,750
I just want

1155
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:20,900
to thank everybody for giving us an opportunity to ask questions and get clarification

1156
01:37:20,900 --> 01:37:25,920
And in times past, we have had information and stuff.

1157
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,640
But I think that we have registered up another level,

1158
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,600
and I really do appreciate that.

1159
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:32,160
Thank you.

1160
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:43,160
I'd like to thank everybody for the work put in before this.

1161
01:37:43,180 --> 01:37:49,160
You know, this feels very different from our last conversation about consolidation.

1162
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,940
You know, I felt like it was not rushed,

1163
01:37:52,420 --> 01:37:54,940
but it was more reactive than proactive,

1164
01:37:54,940 --> 01:38:20,520
and I do appreciate everybody and especially the fiscal committee taking a look at this and really diving deep into some of the hard hard questions and issues that we have to face and really looking at the communication plan, you know, going out to the public and the community and those affected and telling them what our plans are.

1165
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:27,280
I will say that it's up to us to say, hey, this is not said in stone.

1166
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,700
This is step one, right?

1167
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:35,300
And so when I say, oh, well, it's already said in stone.

1168
01:38:35,780 --> 01:38:36,540
Absolutely not.

1169
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:38,640
It's up to us to say it's not said in stone.

1170
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,920
And so I would hope that the communication that goes out says, hey,

1171
01:38:43,140 --> 01:38:50,500
this is step one in our process of

1172
01:38:50,500 --> 01:38:52,740
of a lot of things, right?

1173
01:38:52,940 --> 01:38:59,420
Budget, academics, athletics, really everything that encompasses, you know, what enrollment

1174
01:38:59,420 --> 01:39:02,100
does for each of our, each of our campuses.

1175
01:39:02,740 --> 01:39:07,200
So just really want to appreciate, say, thank you and appreciate the work of everybody that's

1176
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:07,840
got this here.

1177
01:39:13,090 --> 01:39:17,690
I want to echo that and thank our staff for working with us to get us prepared for this meeting.

1178
01:39:17,710 --> 01:39:21,310
It does feel very intentional and I know that the finance committee worked really hard on

1179
01:39:21,310 --> 01:39:22,370
all of that.

1180
01:39:22,370 --> 01:39:51,590
I agree with everything that you said about the communication plan, and I ask the staff to get us the dates for those listening sessions as soon as possible and make sure all the board members know about those dates so we can get them on our calendar and challenge all the board members to at least make sure one of us and maybe you guys the staff can help us make sure we have at least one of us at each of those to listen and take in everything that the communities responding with so that we are aware of the feedback and we can share that and discuss it internally too.

1181
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:54,110
So we're really cognizant of that.

1182
01:39:54,970 --> 01:40:00,830
And to Mr. Rodondo's point, I would respectfully note

1183
01:40:00,830 --> 01:40:03,630
that it disagree a little bit that it's more

1184
01:40:03,630 --> 01:40:04,610
than a drop in the bucket.

1185
01:40:04,910 --> 01:40:08,010
Yes, we're not going to tackle a $27 million deficit

1186
01:40:08,010 --> 01:40:09,990
in one day or one year, maybe.

1187
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:17,350
But getting to conservatively over a third of that in one piece,

1188
01:40:17,550 --> 01:40:20,770
which is a very difficult piece is a big start.

1189
01:40:20,770 --> 01:40:25,870
And so I think that's a great place to start even as hard as it's going to be to do it.

1190
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:29,230
So that's a good place to start.

1191
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:36,620
Well, again, we're not sure, obviously, we're going to get input.

1192
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,700
I mean, you know, it is a difficult place.

1193
01:40:40,340 --> 01:40:42,480
A difficult plan to put out there.

1194
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:43,940
So thank you for that.

1195
01:40:44,140 --> 01:40:44,460
Let's start.

1196
01:40:49,890 --> 01:40:51,070
I really appreciate your time.

1197
01:40:51,230 --> 01:40:52,670
Great questions, great conversation.

1198
01:40:53,530 --> 01:40:54,610
You've seen the material.

1199
01:40:55,130 --> 01:40:56,110
You have some material.

1200
01:40:56,110 --> 01:41:05,110
Well, if you read through it and have any questions or even want to meet again, just let us know and we'll set up another time where we can sit with you and go through it.

1201
01:41:08,110 --> 01:41:10,750
Do you want to kick anybody out this stuff?

1202
01:41:11,950 --> 01:41:15,370
Yeah, we are scheduled to go to 12.

1203
01:41:15,810 --> 01:41:21,010
So I did want to make sure that everybody felt like they had time to say what they wanted to say or share their concerns or questions.

1204
01:41:21,190 --> 01:41:22,030
Does anybody have any deals?

1205
01:41:22,530 --> 01:41:24,110
I want to hear more about this movie.

1206
01:41:24,410 --> 01:41:25,190
That's what I want to hear.

1207
01:41:25,190 --> 01:41:26,510
I

1208
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:37,080
would respectfully ask that in the future when we even are off topic, that we are given an

1209
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:44,940
opportunity to kind of beat that horse a little bit, because these things may not come up

1210
01:41:44,940 --> 01:41:51,900
again, or we may be in a different environment, and every time we're in an environment, we

1211
01:41:51,900 --> 01:41:54,960
are tied to the agenda.

1212
01:41:55,480 --> 01:42:04,240
I don't want to get off the agenda or violate any of our rules and regulations, but I really

1213
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:13,380
would appreciate what we're did to use them and the latter to thank in terms of what we

1214
01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:13,840
need to know.

1215
01:42:13,900 --> 01:42:19,360
Because sometimes we won't have these opportunities again, and I think it's important in

1216
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:25,220
ability to come to a decision within our own cells as to whether we're going to support

1217
01:42:25,220 --> 01:42:30,020
or not support or whether we want to break it up into other pieces and stuff like that.

1218
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,620
And I don't ask questions just to be on this microphone.

1219
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:41,640
I'm asking questions because I have an inquisitive mind about different topics that arise

1220
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,120
that I'm not clear on.

1221
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:50,980
And so I hope that you understand that when I ask those questions, they are very sincere questions

1222
01:42:50,980 --> 01:42:53,540
because I believe that it helps.

1223
01:42:53,940 --> 01:42:57,340
Not only that, but we have people out there watching this thing.

1224
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:03,880
And there are, I'm sure, wondering some of the same questions that we get into, or that we

1225
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:09,180
actually open a little door to, and then we close it and say, well, that's not on the agenda.

1226
01:43:09,180 --> 01:43:17,200
But I know that we are doing a service not only to the board members so that we can make good decisions

1227
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:25,140
But we are also feeding information out to our constituents as well, and that's why we're here

1228
01:43:25,140 --> 01:43:33,240
Dr. Ernest always says we are the eyes in his in the community. We are his eyes and so that is very true because

1229
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,560
because they call us up, they send us a message.

1230
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,760
Why this, can you help me with that?

1231
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:44,740
And so I just would like to see us have a little more latitude

1232
01:43:44,740 --> 01:43:48,940
as long as we are in line with what we are supposed to be

1233
01:43:48,940 --> 01:43:52,740
because I believe that anything that has to do with money at this point

1234
01:43:52,740 --> 01:43:55,260
is part of our consideration as well.

1235
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,560
So having said that, I'm signing off today.

1236
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:00,520
Thank you.

1237
01:44:05,450 --> 01:44:06,490
Anybody else?

1238
01:44:08,540 --> 01:44:16,060
All right, hearing nobody else with anything, this concludes November 20th, 2025, Corpus Christi,

1239
01:44:16,140 --> 01:44:17,880
Independent School Board of Trustees meeting.

1240
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,580
We're adjourned at 1047 a.m.

1241
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,800
Our next regular board meeting will be held on Monday, December 8, 2025 at 5 p.m.