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>> like to call this uh

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regular council meeting to order on June
9th, 20126. Will you please turn

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yourselves off or on silent and stand
and repeat with me or uh pledge of

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allegiance?

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Thank you.

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» Roll call.
>> Councelor Mira.

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» Councelor Wman
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» Councelor Knight
>> here.

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» Councelor Bquette
>> here.

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» Councelor Murray
>> here.

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» All present.
And

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may I have a motion to approve the
agenda, please?

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» So move.
>> Is there a motion? A second.

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» Second.
>> Any discussion?

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All in favor say I.
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» Uh oppose say no. Motion carries. Uh
next item is the administrator's report.

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Melanie.
>> Thank you, mayor. Uh mayor and

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counselors, I have a couple of updates
since the administrator's report was

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written on Friday. Um one will be
especially um important to councelor

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Waldman. I do have an update on Salce
Park. um the the grant has moved to the

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next step in the process and we should
have the formal notice of award within

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the next 30 to 45 days which once we
have that then we can move forward with

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the next step with the design. So
>> excellent. Thank you.

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» Um and also the the work is proceeding
it's almost done on the um animal

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services remodel
>> ahead of schedule.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Thank you.
>> Ahead of schedule and under budget so we

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are good there.
Um, and then counselor night, um, I know

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you had asked Lynn for some more
information about the, um,

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adventure day that happened on Saturday
at Liam's Pond. And so Lynn gave me a

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list of the sponsors. It's a a very
large list, but it included um Coyote

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Gravel Products and Pumping Service, Hit
or Miss Archery Center, Tuk Stuckco, The

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Archery Shop, Bosi Barber Shop, Waypoint
Vehicle Uplifters, Ace Hardware, JPR, uh

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Gravel and Construction, uh the Bass Pro
Shop, and BA BMC Tactical. So, they they

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gave away $15,000
in prizes on Saturday at the at the

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event, including free fishing rods to
all of the kids that came. So, it was a

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um very successful event. I'm not sure
how many fish were caught, and I'm not

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sure if all of the tagged fish were
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» Sarah and they had they caught and this
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that came out that I saw were huge.
>> They were this big.

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» Yeah.
helping helping

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» this big. But um also, you know, um
animal services were there from the

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village and um uh of course the police
department as well as the fire

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department and Lynn. And you know, it it
was so much fun to go over there and see

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all these families together fishing and
having fun. And it even for like little

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tots, they had like a little pool filled
with fake fish that they could sit in

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and grab them. It was It was really
pretty cool.

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» Yeah, Murray.
>> Yeah. So, to follow up on that, I got a

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haircut Monday and I was talking to my
stylist and she her son participated in

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the fishing and when he caught his fish,
he was sorely disappointed because it

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was only about gay [laughter]
and everybody else was have catching the

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big ones. Well, turns out he had the
smallest fish.

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» Then he won a prize.
>> He won prize. His attitude changed

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immensely afterwards. But uh yeah, it
was pretty funny because she showed me a

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picture and it was just, you know,
>> you just had to feel for him because

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he's sitting there that then, but when
he got the award, you know, oh,

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great.
>> Yeah. I I know um of one one child, he

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he won an Xbox, so there there were some
really good prizes. So, yeah. Yeah. So,

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um we're hoping to be able to do that
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» um and then let's see, what was the
other update I had for you? Oh, there

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has been a case of the new world screw
worm in New Mexico in Lee County and a

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and a dog. So, um we're we're keeping an
eye on that um for our our health and

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safety. So, um with that, oh, let's see.
Um you'll see on tonight's consent

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agenda all of the resolutions for our
our parah, our public employees

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retirement fund. And um this has been I
believe we started the process of um

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adding our employees to this about 19
years ago. Is that is that right? And we

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have been working um this has been the
goal to get our police and fire

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departments to plan five which is the
highest plan we can go. So this is this

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is an amazing day. I know a lot of our
our police and fire are here tonight um

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in support of this. So, um, thank you
for your consideration of this and for

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your, um, agreeing to pick up some of
the employees contributions on this

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because this is really helpful to the
village for our recruiting and our

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retention for our employees. So, just
wanted to say thank you in advance.

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Hopefully, it passes. With that, if
there's any questions on the report or

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any requests for next time,
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» Uh, thank you. So I know that I asked a
question about item five in your report

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about the U amended site plan
withdrawing his application and I

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understand now actually talking with uh
our attorney and that we do not have

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rules in place that would penalize
anybody from withdrawing their

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application. So consequently I'm
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and there are still problems with that.
I I think that we need to go court code

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enforcement to go back and take a look
at that because he's got two entrances,

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but he was only allowed one. So, I think
it's it's incumbent that we take a look

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at the uh violations that are there and
see if we can get them resolved. But, uh

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yeah, I'm not happy with uh with that
result, but that's if that's the way it

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is. It is.
Any other comments, questions from

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councel?
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» Thank you, mayor.
>> Uh, moving right along. Coraleno's

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forum. This section is forformational
purposes only, not for discussion and

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debate to inform the governing body of
an issue or concern that would not be

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addressed on the agenda during the
business session. There will be a three

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minute time limit for each speaker. How
many speakers are there, Mandy?

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» 13.
Okay. All right. Uh, first speaker then,

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» Pamela Whitney.

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» Good evening.
>> Can you please state your name and

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address for the record?
>> Uh, Pamela Whitney, 942 Old Church Road.

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» Good evening. Um, I'm here to give an
update on 944 Old Church Road uh where

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there's a uh clean and lean in place
which we hope will remain in place until

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this is resolved. Um, since we I last
spoke with you, I I will let you know I

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am in here on behalf of all of the
neighbors who couldn't always be here

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tonight because they now know that the
official report from planning and zoning

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will was pushed to next week. But two of
us are here to give a report on that.

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Um, since we last spoke, there have been
uh not just uh pickup trucks coming in

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with debris, mostly metal. They're now
dump trucks. There have been four of

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them that I've seen, and another one
came at 8:30 at night and unloaded for 2

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hours. The debris of metal was piled so
high that you could see it over the edge

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of the dump truck um bringing in metal.
Um they now have so there's new material

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coming in all the time. Since they got a
report saying that it was substantially

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clean, they thought, "Oh, Ali Ali income
free. We're good to go now. Let's bring

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in more stuff." Um they built they're
building a shed 30 ft by 15 ft uh with

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no permit. Uh PNZ has been out to see
this and now has acknowledged there's

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new material that wasn't there from
their last report. In conclusion, we've

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all come to the conclusion, all the
neighbors, and I believe P&Z, that this

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is an ongoing business. It's a
scrapyard. It's a junkyard. Scrapyard

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has been in business for years. It is
their source of income. Um, scrap comes

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in, scrap goes out, scrap comes in,
scraps out. We have to assume it's being

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sold. Uh, they have worked hard to get
the flammable material out, but the

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business will remain. And we hope that
by the end of this, whatever the

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conclusion, however this is resolved, we
hoped very very much that there will be

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something in writing in the clean and
lean that says that you all have the

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right to come and inspect every four to
6 months to ensure that this business

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has been ongoing for over 30 to 40 years
does not continue to go once they feel

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they have met the requirements of the
clean and lean because this is their

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source of income which is fine. It's a
residential neighborhood and maybe in

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the old days when it wasn't so urban, it
was fine. But now they need to take the

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money that they've made from other land,
sell it, and go somewhere else to run

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their business and live peacefully as
our neighbor. Thank you very much.

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» Thank you. Next, Mandy.
>> Um Amy Clement.

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I'm Amy Clement, 942 Old Church Road,
speaking about the same property. And

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I'm sure you're tired of me speaking
about the same property. You know, kind

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of tired as well, but I just wanted to
make sure the lean and clean is um

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handled carefully, that it's not just
removed without uh lots of inspections.

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And then when it is finally removed,
there will be some kind of followup

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because I do believe they just move it
from one pile here to one pile here. But

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I also believe there are still a lot of
flammable things there because I just

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saw the 60 unused tires pile has never
been removed and that would burn for

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days. I get frustrated with Paralis
Comment because every time this is on

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the front page of Paral Comment, they
put in the title trashy neighbors blah

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blah blah. It's not about it being
trashy and I'm a Karen or like it's an

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eyesore thing. I think they're spending
all the time on a fence to hide it, but

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it's not about them being trashy at all.
It's about a fire hazard. There's all

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It's about safety, not about being an
eyesore. So, it's not about hiding it so

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we don't see it in and our feel like our
neighborhood is trashy. It's not that at

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all. It's just a a safety hazard for a
fire that will burn for days.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you,

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» Mr. Mayor. Mor.
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» if I could just interrupt for a minute.
We were expecting, I think, an update

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tonight. Could you tell us what this
post I'm sorry to interrupt, but

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» Yeah. um it would just needed a little
more time to to follow up. We're we're

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in the process of of getting quotes on
on cleaning up the property ourselves.

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So, um it it is it is still in place. It
is still moving forward. Uh we were just

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hoping to have some more information
before we gave you a formal report. So,

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it'll be part of uh Lor's monthly report
in the next council packet.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you so much, Bob. I

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Well, I live in Corales.
First off, I recognize Cibil Sheepard

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back here. Haven't seen her for many,
many years since her husband passed.

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Great family and I miss John
all the time. Okay. [clears throat]

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Pardon me. I would still like to bring
up there's a no loadering sign. It has

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been proven to be unconstitutional.
You can loiter in a public parking

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[clears throat] lot.
So, I'd really like to get that one

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removed.
The number of coyotes are really

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increasing right now. The pups are out.
The coyotes are are going everywhere.

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Uh and then just two two things. The
number of cars that pass on the right on

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Corral's Road
is out of out of hand. Every time you

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stop to make a left-hand turn, they're
passing you on the right. They don't

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pass me, but I see it all the time. It's
illegal. They can't go on the dirt.

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But then I've been passed on also. I do
speed limit. I use cruise control cuz I

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got a heavy foot. But they're passing me
on over.

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Uh years ago, I followed the guy all the
way to his house. My wife wouldn't let

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me get out and talk to him.
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most of the drivers here are great. It
just it's just those few that are either

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passing on the right or passing on the
left. They're whatever they're doing,

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they're doing it wrong. Thank you. Thank
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» Civil Kaiser. Yes.

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Civil Kaiser 160 West Meadow Law. Um,
I'm here to speak against a a noise

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ordinance. Um,
I we do have a a real noise problem

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corrals. The traffic there's more people
living here. Traffic is loud. You can't

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regulate that. Um, we value our farm
community all day. I listen to weed

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whackers, leaf blowers, all kinds of
motors, but I respect that people need

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to use that and we can't regulate that.
Um, I listen to I walk outside and my

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the dog barks at me all the time. The
peacock screech and the chicken the

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rooster has no regard for the dawn and
just crows all day. But you can't

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regulate that. So you're looking at
regulating music. We are so fortunate to

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have some venues, local venues where we
can go and enjoy music. And it seems

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like it's that's something that that
should we should encourage to exist

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here. Um, I understand if you're uh live
near the commercial zone, maybe it would

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not be so hard to just accommodate and
tolerate that music till 9:30. 9:30

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curfew is the only ordinance we need. I
heard an argument that just because you

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live in the commercial district, you
should um be entitled to to the same

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kind of quiet that everyone else. And
that's ridiculous. your property values

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reflect that. If you live in a more
densely populated area, it's going to be

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a little noisier. I mean, I think you
have there's other conveniences that you

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enjoy, but that's a trade-off. And I I
don't think we can expect it's not too

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much to ask for those residents to just
tolerate some tombs till 9:30 at night.

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And uh Rudy Ma

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16 East Millark.
We are here to solve problems.

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That's those aren't my words. That's
what U. Councelor Mietta said at this

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meeting uh last Tuesday. And so let's
start solving some problems. you know,

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um,
Robert Hobbes talked about, uh, that he

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and I have some disagreements and we
agreed to disagree, but we also agreed

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to agree. And one thing we can agree on
is uh an entrance further to the north

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on on Corales Road because you know
there was uh a statement made by the PNZ

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uh administrator when we had our first
um appeal back in 2023 and we were told

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that uh the New Mexico Department of
Transportation would never grant uh

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variance.
Time out. Not true. The New Mexico

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Department of Transportation is located
at 1120 Cerillios Road in New Mexico in

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Santa Fe, which is another name for
Highway 14. In fact, the entire basic uh

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commercial district of the city of Santa
Fe is on a variance. Whether you want to

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go to the Elcourt Motel or you want to
go to Whole Foods Market, get some art

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supplies at Artisans or buy some good
food in Marisos, those businesses have

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all been granted a variance. That is
highway 14 from all the way from uh

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Department of Transportation
through uh Rodeo Road all the way up to

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where it ends in in uh in Gali Stable
Road. So I think that uh we should uh

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take a look at the parallel that we have
our same situation here that this is a a

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state highway and we're being told well
there can be no variances granted. Well

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variances have been granted to the point
that that's how uh economy of Santa Fe

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is still sustained. I think that maybe
we should take a look and councelor

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Marie mentioned about you know it was
better. He was disappointed there was

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two entrances allowed. If there's one
entrance, we would like to see it on the

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north side, but it's going to take more
than than just Robert fighting it

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himself or us the metallark or we need
the village behind us. I think we need

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the council behind us and I think we
should take this up as a problem we

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could solve. I think, you know, they say
the definition of uh being insane is to

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keep doing the same thing over and over
again. Will people keep talking over and

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over again to Margaret? I don't know who
Margaret is over at the DOT, but we

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might need to go above Margaret and
councelor Mietta. think you you had so

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much experience with the uh legislature
and you know how government works and

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all that. Uh maybe that would be
something you can be helping us out in

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in terms of uh doing what we're here for
which is to solve problems. Thank you

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very much.
>> Thank you.

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» That's Deborah de laator.

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I'm Deborah de la. I live at 28 East
Metal Arlane Pales.

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Mayor Hashimoto and councel, we have
been recently made aware due to the

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inclusion on the agenda that the
property owner Robert Hobbs of 3605

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Corales Road has withdrawn his site
development plan 2603 amendment as

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following public site development plan
hearings. The matter was appealed to the

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village council which determined that
the proposed increase in intensity

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required further review and remanded the
application to the planning and zoning

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commission. The applicant then withdrew
the request and elected to proceed under

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the previously approved original site
development plan. The owner cannot

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obtain by withdrawal what could not be
obtained through approval. By

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withdrawing the amendment to modify, the
applicant remains subject to the

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original site development plan and all
conditions associated with that

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approval. The withdrawal of the
application cannot serve as

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authorization for site improvements,
operations, or uses that differ from the

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approved plan. It has become apparent
that the site as currently constructed

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and operated may not fully conform to
the approved SDP plan

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and its conditions. Accordingly, I
request the village conduct a

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comprehensive compliance review and
require conformance with all elements of

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the approved plan, including but not
limited to restoration and construction

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of all site improvements not shown on
the original approved STP. Remove the

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shipping container, shed, storage,
fencing, concrete slabs, outdoor gazebo,

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all were added without proper
permitting. replacement of the

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screening, the walls, the fencing, the
landscaping and buffering elements that

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were existing on that original plan, but
subsequently removed, altered or never

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installed. Replacement of a 6' high
solid wood fencing at the north portion

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of the property. Tree replacement as
shown on the landscape plan. Restore a

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six-ft high wire fence on Corales Road
from the wood fence south. Then extend

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east on Metoark. Remove the access drive
around the pond. Restore the required

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runup capacity and maintenance of all
drainage, grading, and storm water

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management improvements required by the
original approved STP. Compliance of all

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approved hours of restaurant operation,
8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through

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Friday, as shown on Mr. Hob's original
application. His original application,

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hence the approval from from PNZ
originally was specifically that states

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for one small delicatessan. Hours of
business are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

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There will be no open cooking in the
delicatessan and the idea for Belle's

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deli liquor license was dropped during
the original discussion and was never

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approved. And Miss Romero's finding of
fact number seven is incorrect.

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Thank you for your attention to this
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» Thank you. Next, Mandy
>> Kathy Campbell.

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» Kathy Campbell, 8 East Metal Arc Lane.
Good evening, mayor and counselors.

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Thank you for the opportunity to address
the council of fellow Corinians tonight.

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As a resident of Palis for over 40 years
and as an appealing party in a quasi

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judicial proceeding recently heard by
the council in the special meeting on

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June 2nd, I want to express my concerns
of bea on behalf of myself and the other

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appalants regarding the process followed
particularly with regard to notice and

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adequate documentation of the proceeding
and of subsequent events. In the hearing

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on June 2nd, we were led to believe that
there would be insufficient time for the

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BNZ to review the conditions set forth
in the council's decision and it would

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most likely be heard at the council's
regular meeting on June 23rd. With that

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in mind, the opponents were surprised to
learn that the findings of fact and

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conclusions of law would be on the
agenda for re review at tonight's

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meeting and that the amended STP which
was the subject of the appeal had been

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withdrawn by the apply Mr. Hobbs. that
information was included in

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administrator's report in the agenda
packet. Another issue of concern is that

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the minutes of that appeal hearing do
not adequately reflect the testimony and

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evidence presented for appropriate
documentation of the proceeding and in

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fact refer to an incorrect STP in the
motion presented. Further, the

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withdrawal of STP 2603 should be
presented to the counselors as part of

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the appeal proceeding itself and does
not in and in and of itself relieve the

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Appal League from his responsibilities
under the original SDP. I present these

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concerns for your consideration in
addressing items number one and three on

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the agenda for tonight's meeting. Again,
mayor, counselors, and fellow Orlando,

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thank you for your time.
>> Thank you. Next,

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» Salame Ward.

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» Hi, Salame Ward, East Metal Arc Lane.
Uh, um, hi everyone. Thank you so much.

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What, you know, for what each of you
does. Um, one thing I just wanted to

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remind everyone here is, I don't know,
it raises my hackles now every time I

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hear commercial zone because we don't
have a commercial zone in uh, Corales.

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We have a neighborhood commercial zone.
So people, everyone seems to always

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forget the neighborhood part. We're all
neighbors here and it's a neighborhood

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commercial zone. Um so I think we should
all be concerned about the enjoyment and

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the health and the well-being of all of
our neighbors. Um, so what I was well I

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was going to talk about division like so
many times right now it seems that

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there's division and I still believe
that we have so much more in common and

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ultimately what we all want is to enjoy
our lives here in this beautiful village

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and to have good neighbors. Good
neighbors whether or not they're

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residents, whether they're businesses,
whether they're both, whether they have

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whether they're uh you get the idea. So,
um, so anyway, I hope that we all could

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always be good neighbors to each other.
Um, I would like to add my, uh, support

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my neighbors that just came up here and
spoke. I'm also on East Bedark and I

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share their concerns about the property,
um, at the corner there of the corner of

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Corales Road. Um, but one thing I also
wanted to mention, recently I've been to

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meetings regarding a liquor license,
regarding an appeal, um, all kinds of

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things. And it's a great learning
process, but sometimes it's frustrating

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because it seems that there's
inconsistencies or there are rules that

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are hard to understand, especially with
regards to quasi judicial or quasi

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legal. I forgot what the official term
is. Um recently um at an appeal um

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attendees were told that only the
appalants would be allowed to speak but

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then afterwards someone said to me where
did they get that rule from? That's not

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true. You were part of the initial
hearing you were also allowed to speak.

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So sometimes there's frustrating things
like that that happen. Sometimes it

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appears that um sorry like the
administrator sometimes you put your

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finger on the scale in the way things
are presented and you should be

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impartial like that shouldn't happen. So
that's frustrating. Um and also recently

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at the liquor license hearing God it's
hard to say this in front of everyone.

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Okay. Um there one of the council
members um accused people that were

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opposing the liquor license. Um there
was talk about people intentionally

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being misleading and lying and
particularly under oath because you have

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to swear an oath when you speak at a
quasi judicial process. In the end after

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the meeting it was all cleared up. It
was a misunderstanding but in the

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meantime that accusation stuck. It
stayed there that people that were

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exercising their right and speaking out
against something were kind of accused

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of of being misleading and lying. So, I
just want everybody to be careful.

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You're all our neighbors as well, and
let's try to

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bring the temperature down instead of uh
make it worse. Thank you.

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» Thank you. Next, Mandy.
>> Teddy Chavez.

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My name is Eddie Chavis. I live at 10
Mountain View Lane on the north end of

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Corales.

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Mountain View Lane is just north of the
Harvey Jones Canal and just south of the

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escurves that are going on the way
towards the tree. [snorts]

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Mountain View Lane has three other
families that live on Mountain View Lane

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as well as myself.
On a daily basis and on multiple

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occasions, I have to exit or enter
from Mountain View Lane onto Corales

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Road
130 ft from a blind curve.

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On a daily basis, I have to cross
Corella Road to pick up my menu. 2.35

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seconds from a blind curve.
On a frequent basis,

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I have a close encounter with a vehicle
coming around that blind curve as I exit

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onto Coral's road or cross to pick up my
mail.

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On a frequent basis, I get harassed for
slowing down to turn into Mountain

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Delay.
On a frequent basis, I think to myself,

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one of these days,
this has been going on for over 45 years

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that I've lived on Mountain View Lane,
except that it's happening more

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frequently.
I have witnessed several dozen

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accidents.
Two utility poles taken out, a gas

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meter, leaking gas with a wrecked car on
top of it, fences and walls knocked

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down, and even dead people.
I am here to request that the Corellus

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Police Department effectively
effectively

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increase their presence and enforcement
of the speed limit on our portion of

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Corales Road.
Actions speak louder than words.

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Let the actions of me and my neighbors
today

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um please take into account the actions
that we take and let our words speak for

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themselves. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Russell Shahill.

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» Uh I'm Russell Trujillo, 7596
Corales Road. I'm uh Eddie Chavis is one

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of his neighbors and uh we've been up
here before talking about the traffic

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and uh it's uh it's still a problem down
there. I do appreciate councelor Ma.

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He's helped us out quite a bit. Uh I did
talk to Steve Lecu the other day. I

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caught him down there. They were taking
pictures of the trees that need to be

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removed. I know it's going to be a long
process, but uh you know, we're still

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behind you and we still would like to
see uh something done down there, you

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know, and uh uh we noticed tonight when
I was coming the the S-curve sign in the

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south lane, it's been down for about two
or three days now. Somebody ran over it

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and uh you know, we'd really like to
have some police presence down there. Uh

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we do see it occasionally at the tree
farm. Uh the other day I went down

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Lomalara and I seen three police cars at
different areas. But I'm sure uh you

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know Lomalara doesn't have uh probably
10% of the traffic we have in Coralis

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Road on that side. So it'd really be
nice to have some police presence down

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there and uh slow down that traffic. Uh,
we also had an event down there. I guess

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it's been a month and a half ago where
we'd had trucks. I don't know what the

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the regulations for truck traffic is on
Corales Road, but we had non-stop truck

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traffic for a month and a half down
there. The big the big trucks moving

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back and forth. Probably 80,000 pounds
of load on on those trucks. I know the

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highway wasn't made for that. Either was
Lalara. They were coming from the 528

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project in Rio Rancho coming down road
and they were going somewhere over by

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the old church and back and forth all
day and it it's pretty annoying. Uh and

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uh it's just one of those things. And
another thing that we need some

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enforcement on is these new uh the trash
trailers. I mean, just today I was

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working out in my field. I counted in
two hours. I counted five of these trash

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trailers. I don't know if you know what
I mean. They're uh they seem like

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they're everywhere. Every every
contractor has one now, but they're all

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going to the county dump and it's
nonstop. Some days it's non-stop.

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Some guys have their loads tied down,
but I have picked up a lot of trash off

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the highway in front of my house from
stuff just bouncing off those trailers.

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And uh sometimes I think they're going
to stop and come and pick it up, but

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they never do. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Is Isabella Trill.

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» Hello. Isabella Trujillo 7596 Corales
Road. Um I will also express as my

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neighbors and father have explained that
it's a very dangerous S-curve down there

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at the north end of Corales. Um and we
are continuing to live with it. Um and I

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hope we can get some sort of resolve
with that as well. Um, I'd also like to

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um mention for the public that the Kraas
farmland preservation

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um program has been opened again,
application program has been opened

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again as the council had approved it.
Um, and I want to make sure that that is

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known for the public. It the application
process closes on June 22nd in about a

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little about two weeks. So any land
owners interested in placing their

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property in a conservation easement,
please reach out to the village um about

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that process. So you can find the
application on the village website. It's

409
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:12,399
also you can go to the admin office and
get it. You can return it in person or

410
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:16,960
email it back. Um and then the the
process will begin from there. So if

411
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:22,240
anyone is interested or has questions, I
do have some flyers available and or

412
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:28,000
just go to the village website and check
that out. Um, this is one of the only

413
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:33,919
programs that the village offers to
support farming in Corales. So, please

414
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:38,879
take advantage of it. Um,
and yes, this is a really important

415
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:43,119
program that we have here.
You could potentially get some money out

416
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,839
of it. So, we need to really support our
agriculture, our farmers in this

417
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:52,000
village. And this is one of the uh one
way that we can really do that. And

418
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:56,480
again, please continue supporting local
agriculture. Come to the growers market.

419
00:34:54,079 --> 00:35:00,880
Every Sunday, 9 to noon until November.
We are there. And there's a lot of food

420
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,960
that we are producing here in the
village. And people need to eat it. So,

421
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:10,320
please come to the market, get your
food, and um help us continue supporting

422
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:15,680
agriculture in the village. And that
also helps with less traffic on the

423
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:20,640
roads because there's less houses being
developed, so there's less cars, so more

424
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:23,760
property is being used in farmland.
Thank you very much.

425
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:27,960
» Thank you.
>> Next, Mandy,

426
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,960
» Ran Garfield.

427
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:38,640
» Hello, I'm Ran Garfield. Uh I'm at 7532
Parales Road and I'm speaking about the

428
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:44,480
the
line curve at the north end. Uh my

429
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:48,640
family has lived in Palace for over 50
years and our property is located

430
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:54,800
between the Jones Channel to the south
and the tree farm to the north. We are

431
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:59,359
dead center on the infamous blind curve.
There has been much property damage over

432
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:04,720
these years, including fence damage, gas
meters having to be relocated,

433
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:10,040
mailboxes being run over, power poles
being knocked over, and also some

434
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
fatalities.

435
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:17,680
The yellow arrow signs put on the curb
by the highway department in front of

436
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:23,119
our property have even been mowed down.
The work done by the village government

437
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:27,280
so far is is much appreciated.
With the everinccreasing amount of

438
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:31,520
traffic, it is becoming more treacherous
to pull in and out of our driveways and

439
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:36,720
to cross the road on foot than we
irrigate our property. A concentrated

440
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:41,599
police presence is needed to slow down
the traffic on this blind curve and a

441
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:46,400
reduction of the speed limit would help
the most. Thank you.

442
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,880
» Thank you.
Next, may

443
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,880
» uh Ken Dehoff.

444
00:36:54,079 --> 00:37:02,400
» Good evening, uh, mayor and counselors.
I'm Ken Dehoff.

445
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:09,760
Uh, I live at 7648
Corales Road, or at least it was 7648

446
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Corales Road before Lorie Stout made me
name my driveway. It's now Bad Coyote.

447
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:21,920
So, we're Bad Coyote Farm and we are 100
ft south of the tree farm and I'm here

448
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:27,920
to support my neighbors
uh to mention that we all met with

449
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:33,920
Representative Kates and Councelor
Mierra last year. We had what I thought

450
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:39,520
were really good, productive
conversations

451
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:47,200
about doing something to improve safety.
I I just my my mailbox story is that I

452
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:52,320
see UPS and FedEx trucks
cross the yellow line, cross the

453
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:58,079
dividing line coming up to our house and
then they overcorre correct right into

454
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:04,320
where my mailbox is. So I just have to I
have to be very mindful of not being at

455
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:09,040
my mailbox when I see something coming
up from Mountain View. And I can just I

456
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:14,400
can see that and say, "Okay, as long as
it's clear, I got enough time to get up,

457
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:22,480
get my mail, and get out of there." And
so, it would be

458
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:29,760
uh helpful to follow through on what we
talked about last year. And I'm going to

459
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:36,480
give you a word and some personal advice
called persistence with my second topic,

460
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:42,400
which is that uh tomorrow evening in the
Sandival County Commission, the county

461
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:48,960
commission is going to be voting
uh to determine that the Sandival County

462
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:55,839
Assessor has abandoned her role by
taking a job with the state treasurer.

463
00:38:53,200 --> 00:39:01,920
Uh I don't know if anybody has seen the
Larry Barker

464
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:10,079
uh article about that. Uh if you
haven't, it's worth seeing. And

465
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:15,599
you all know that I have been one word
persistent

466
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:21,440
on trying to protect the rights of land
owners in Corales. And I'm doing it with

467
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:24,440
my own property. But persistence
requires

468
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:34,880
effort and it requires continuous
effort. I mean the mayor showed up here

469
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:40,560
regularly. I mean if you remember we
have a number of people that show up

470
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:46,160
regularly on an issue. That persistence
is I think what we on the north end are

471
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:53,119
asking from the council
to help us improve safety on the north

472
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:56,280
end of Corales Road. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

473
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:08,320
» Next item is the consularor's forum.
This section is forformational purposes

474
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:12,640
only, not for discussion and debate, to
inform the governing body of an issue or

475
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:19,000
concern that would not be addressed on
the agenda during the business session.

476
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,000
Any counselors?

477
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:27,280
Council me. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I
want to just uh take some time to not on

478
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,640
the agenda. So therefore, I'll say
wanted to thank uh all of you for

479
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:37,440
showing up, but specifically my
constituents who have been uh very kind

480
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,359
and taking their time, understanding
that we need to take our time with the

481
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,280
state, but I continue working with them
and they continue working with us. And

482
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:51,040
so I want to thank them for coming and
uh Tim that as I've told you you make

483
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:55,200
your your uh your statements here and
they're going record but mostly we get

484
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:59,680
used to seeing you and then maybe we
think maybe it's nice if we didn't see

485
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:04,560
them so much so because we took care of
their issues. So I want to thank you for

486
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:08,640
reminding us of what we need to do and
uh I'll end it Mr. Mayor by just saying

487
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,880
what bothers me the most. These people
do have to cross from one side of the

488
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:17,440
street to the other to get their mail
cuz we we can't move the mailboxes. They

489
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,280
might get run over, but uh no, not the
not the people in mailboxes, but uh

490
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:25,599
nonetheless, you have to cross the
street. And to me, that's so disturbing,

491
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,920
but everybody else along Corales Road
has to do that, too. So, uh thank you

492
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,880
very much for reminding us of what uh we
can do to help you. So, thank you very

493
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:38,200
much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
>> Sure. Any other counselors who would

494
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,200
like to speak?

495
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:44,880
Okay,
next item, consent agenda. May I have a

496
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,640
motion to approve the consent agenda,
please?

497
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:53,119
» So move.
>> I'll second.

498
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:58,240
» Any discussion?
Councelor Murray and Council Wman and

499
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:02,640
Mera. Yeah. So, with the uh application
for the harvest festival and closing the

500
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:08,839
crossroad, how do residents get to the
post office on those days when uh the

501
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,839
road is closed?

502
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,839
» I don't know.
>> I'm just curious because, you know, it

503
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:18,800
does say road closure, but if residents
need to get to the post office,

504
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:23,760
especially on Saturday when it's open,
uh they need some mechanism by which

505
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:28,720
they can get to the post office.
I I know in the past you've been able to

506
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:33,280
to go in and and park at the rec center.
I I don't know if they can park there

507
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:37,280
and and walk. We We'll find out for you.
>> Well, I mean, post office obviously has

508
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:42,160
their own parking lot. That's federal
property. So, if anybody is using that

509
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:46,640
for the harvest festival, uh they may be
in violation of federal law. So, I don't

510
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:51,760
know. But, uh it seems like to me that
uh we need to have that uh you know,

511
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,200
discussed.
Councilwoman,

512
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:59,760
» a very minor point, but uh on the ditch
run application, I think it should

513
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,079
probably read um that this is the third
year of the uh ditch run rather than the

514
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,240
30th year.
So,

515
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:09,920
» okay,
>> thank you Mira.

516
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:15,359
» Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh two
different questions. Um one would be uh

517
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,680
going back to Pamela's first statement
and all those that were here on Church

518
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:27,599
Road. Um,
anyone, but I was looking for PNZ. Do we

519
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:33,680
even have even if we could, if we don't
have a special zoning for a scrapyard at

520
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:38,800
all in Corales,
we do. We don't. So, there's there's no

521
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,480
even if somebody's doing legally or
illegally.

522
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:44,560
» Lori Lori is here.
>> Oh, Lori, is she here? I was used to Oh,

523
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,240
there you are. I'm used to seeing you in
the back. Lori, you could answer it from

524
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,200
back there or whatever. I mean, is there
such a Okay, that'll be fine. You

525
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,040
understand my question, right? Is there
such a thing as a I know in other

526
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:01,200
counties and other areas, other cities,
they do have we do we even have such a

527
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:04,960
thing as a permit for a scrapyard?
>> No, we don't. Okay. Especially not in a

528
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:09,280
residential area. If somebody tried to
do that as a commercial enterprise, they

529
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:13,680
would have to do a site development plan
and it would be subject to that review.

530
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,359
But there's no such thing for um
residential. So, if we find somebody in

531
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,480
violation of whatever it is and they
have a scrapyard, they're they're

532
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:24,000
violating.
>> Correct. We can we can if you're talking

533
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,319
about the Clean and Lean property,
that's going away, too. The Clean and

534
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:32,000
Lean is far from dead. I It is not
substantially compliant. They built yet

535
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:36,960
another new building. So, we're
gathering bids to get rid of that and

536
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:40,319
and the scrap and whatever tires, etc.
Yeah. And going along that same, is

537
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,720
there such a thing as a construction
yard or is it the same thing that we do

538
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,920
or do not have any permission for?
>> Well, I can tell you there was a

539
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,040
residence that got a home occupation and
it was a very small one. It was supposed

540
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:56,000
to be an office for a construction
company and over the years about 20

541
00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:02,000
years it morphed into a full-on
construction yard and after much you

542
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:06,400
know appealing and court case etc etc it
was removed. So that that's over and

543
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:10,240
above what would typically be allowed
for any home occupation. Again, if it's

544
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,119
commercial, it would be subject to PNZ
review, but not in not in a residential

545
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,000
zone.
>> Thank you. And my final one is um I

546
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,640
guess it was Amy, and I could be wrong.
Uh correct me if I'm wrong, but uh Sid

547
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:28,160
on the consent agenda, one and three
were maybe out of whack or is is there

548
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:31,599
any uh thing that we need to know about
it as council or myself as counselor?

549
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,040
» I'm sorry, I don't understand the
question. One and three. What

550
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,960
» on the consent agenda? One and three, I
believe.

551
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:39,680
» I I think she meant the findings of fact
that

552
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:43,359
» Okay. Where is that one? On the next
page.

553
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,520
» No, it's under It's under um consent
agenda, right?

554
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,680
» Yeah, that's number one on the consent
agenda.

555
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:55,440
» Is is are those in line?
Maybe I should ask uh Melanie,

556
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,319
are we okay by if we because we know the
consent agenda. If we approve the

557
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,119
consent agenda, we approving those and
are they online? Are they okay? Yes,

558
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:09,280
they they those are written by our
attorney and this this is what would go

559
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:15,520
if if it progressed to um somebody
taking it to uh magistrate court that

560
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:18,720
would be what the the court yes that the
the court would look at those those

561
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:23,680
findings effect. So this is the
>> sort of the official record that goes in

562
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:28,800
hand with with the minutes and um we we
do have a typo in the minutes for those

563
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:32,880
under the motion. It says 2602 site
development plan 2602. I believe it

564
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:36,560
should be 2603. So we'll we'll make that
correction before those get get posted.

565
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:40,160
» Thank you. That's all I have.
>> Councor Murray.

566
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:47,040
» Uh back to the harvest festival. Are
they not using the uh law park and the

567
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:52,640
village parking facilities for harvest
festival? But I did not see any drawings

568
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:56,720
as there were last year. And I'm just
curious uh are they using these two

569
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:01,920
facilities as well or is it just going
to be a rec center?

570
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:06,079
» They they are using those for the um the
artists the vendors and then the the

571
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:11,079
other vendors will be in the
>> in our packet. I am not sure

572
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,839
» uh because what I was curious about and
I asked this question last year I will

573
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:22,560
ask again this year is of the
applications that the village has

574
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:26,800
received how many are within the village
and how many are outside the village in

575
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,319
terms of business licenses the
applications that go with the harvest

576
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:35,560
festival
>> is anybody from the harvest festival

577
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,560
here tonight

578
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,319
It's always a good idea for anyone who
has a consent agenda. I don't

579
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:48,119
» Tony's here.
>> Tony Mes Tony, why don't you get up and

580
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,119
answer the question, please?

581
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,640
» I'm sorry, counselor. Uh, ask me again.
I heard most of it, but I'm not sure

582
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,960
what the final question was.
>> All right. Final question is how many

583
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,560
applications have you received that are
with from within the village and how

584
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:09,599
many applications are from outside the
village

585
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:14,240
» for the vendors for the food trucks for
>> well for the vendors for

586
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:20,400
» the short answer is I don't have and I
don't know that we tabulate we can it's

587
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:27,839
not all that terribly difficult um how
many of the artists are correlenos how

588
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:34,480
many are from outside the village
um it would be easier because we used to

589
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:40,559
give the Coral Angos like a $10 break or
something. And the food trucks, I don't

590
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:44,800
believe any of the food trucks are from
within are based within Corales or owned

591
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,079
by Coralenos.
>> I would agree with that.

592
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:53,040
» Um
I think a

593
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:58,480
offthe cuff Sy's here. She might have it
better on board. Well, I mean, last time

594
00:48:55,359 --> 00:49:03,599
it was uh by business licenses purchased
at the village offices by those

595
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:09,119
requiring because they had to be
licensed within the

596
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,280
» we do uh mandate that they get a
business registration.

597
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:15,839
» Yes,
>> that they they may not be here without

598
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:18,559
that registration.
>> I was just curious maybe the village had

599
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,720
something, you know, with that.
>> Can can I interject a thought on that?

600
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,240
Um, any business that's already in the
village wouldn't go get a business

601
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:29,200
license for the grow for the harvest
vessel. They would already have one. So,

602
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,319
that would be a tough metric as well
because if they're already operating in

603
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,960
compliance, they already have a business
license.

604
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:40,240
» But the village should have a you know,
if he's if he's got a list, it should

605
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:45,520
match up with the village licenses,
>> right? I think if if you apply for a

606
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:50,400
vendor table, it seems like you put your
address down on it on that uh on that

607
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:54,640
vendor application
>> that is required on

608
00:49:52,400 --> 00:50:00,319
» and so you should
the data should be there as far as where

609
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:04,559
the vendors are are from
>> if

610
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:09,520
I don't think I'm committing this too
much. We can get that information to

611
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:13,200
you. I the food trucks I'm pretty sure.
>> I'm just curious, you know, as to

612
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,760
participation, you know, how many are
inside the building or participating

613
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:23,119
versus the outside building.
>> We also have the businesses

614
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:29,119
that are staged over here around this
building. Um, and I think most of those

615
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:34,240
are not coroused. When we get to the
artists, I think a good percent very

616
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:38,160
solid percentage of
>> I was just curious too also why the maps

617
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:42,400
weren't included for the village parking
lot in launch audit.

618
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:47,440
» They I know they were in because I
submitted the event happen. Okay.

619
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:52,960
» So I know they were attached. I
>> Yeah, it it may have Yeah. I I I don't

620
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:56,880
know. I wasn't um involved in that part,
but it may have been when it brought got

621
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,680
brought over from the parks and recck
commission. Maybe a page got misplaced.

622
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:05,280
I'm not too sure, but what we can we can
track that down. And also just a point

623
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:08,480
of order, if if we have if we want to
discuss items on the consent agenda,

624
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:13,920
they really should be pulled off for
discussion. So this we're really kind of

625
00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:18,559
out of order here. So just
just saying

626
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:22,400
» if anybody wanted to pull an item off of
the agenda,

627
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:29,040
» councelor Wman.
>> Yes. [clears throat] only um for points

628
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:33,440
of clarification the um
all the issues dealing with uh parah

629
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:40,440
just so we can get a further uh
explanation for the police and fire and

630
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,440
um staff.

631
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,000
» Can we pull those off as a group or do
we have to pull them off individually?

632
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,200
» As a group is fine.
>> I can make a motion. So just make a

633
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,640
motion to pull off items four through
eight.

634
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,640
I make a motion we remove items four
through eight uh from the consent agenda

635
00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:00,480
for further discussion.
>> Any any discussion on that?

636
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:03,839
All in favor say I.
>> I.

637
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:09,359
» Opposed say no.
>> Motion carries. Okay.

638
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:13,680
» So then we should approve the the motion
to the consent agenda agenda and then

639
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:17,839
you can move on. Yeah.
>> Unless somebody wants to discuss this

640
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:21,839
some more.
items one through three. Any more

641
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:26,559
discussion?
Okay. Um,

642
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:29,839
so there's a motion in a second to
approve the consent agenda numbers 1,

643
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:33,119
two, and three.
>> Also, items seven and eight or I'm

644
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:38,920
sorry, nine and 10. They're on the back
of the agenda.

645
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,920
» And nine and 10. Um,

646
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:47,520
all in favor, please say I.
>> I.

647
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:52,079
» Oppose, say no. Motion carries.
Going to the items four through six.

648
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:58,000
Four through eight. Now they were
withdrawn from the consent agenda. Um

649
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:01,599
is there a motion to approve them? Is
there discussion?

650
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:08,400
» Motion to approve.
>> Any second discussion? No. Mr.

651
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:12,160
» Mayor, I raised this issue. We have a
number of members of both fire and

652
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:17,599
police and and village staff here
tonight. And um

653
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:22,640
I just wanted to uh add what uh the
administrator said earlier, how much we

654
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:28,640
appreciate uh all their efforts. Uh we
actually had a uh two uh firefighters

655
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:34,079
come out and do a fire inspection uh to
back up the uh uh business license

656
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:38,000
application for uh animal rescue group
for harvest festival today. And they

657
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:43,040
were terrific. And uh it's just
emblematic of what this what this

658
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:46,880
village has. And perhaps uh Melanie, you
could talk about the history of where

659
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:51,200
you said it's it's taken many many years
to get to to this level. Yeah.

660
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:54,559
» And what it really means for
for our employees.

661
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:58,000
» Yeah. So so what this means is now uh
the police and fire department are at

662
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:02,240
the highest level. When when they
retire, they will get the maximum amount

663
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:07,040
available to them. Um, so if somebody
were to start now and they worked the

664
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:12,000
the right number of years, they
theoretically could retire on 100% of

665
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:15,839
their their highest salary when when
they do retire. So our our current

666
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,359
employees who have been with us a long
time, they they they get different

667
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:22,960
buckets. So they get the the buckets
that they earned when we were under, you

668
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:27,280
know, plan one and plan two and then
plan three. We're skipping plan four and

669
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:31,839
now we're going to plan five. So, this
this really um will take care of our our

670
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:36,400
firefighters after they've they've
completed their careers here with us and

671
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:41,599
and our police department. Sorry, Chief.
Didn't didn't mean to forget you guys.

672
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:48,400
Um so, police and fire. Um and also this
this process for these five resolutions.

673
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:53,200
We started this exa almost exactly a
year ago. So the I was looking back at

674
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:58,640
my emails last night and this kicked off
I believe July 7th of last year with

675
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:03,359
with um Deputy Chief Latin had sent an
email to our PAR representative and said

676
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:06,800
how do we start this process and we have
multiple emails back and forth of you

677
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,440
know this is what you need to do and
then we would wait for them and this is

678
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:14,400
what you need to do. So we would send
them you know our um our drafts and then

679
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:19,920
we'd have to wait a couple of weeks and
then we'd get those back. So yeah, just

680
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:23,280
just this portion has been a year in the
making.

681
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,280
» But this also affects uh the village
employees.

682
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:28,079
» Yes. Right.
>> Yep.

683
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:31,319
» Thank you for keeping us safe. Be safe
out there.

684
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:39,200
» So yeah, they um so the the the
remainder of the village employees that

685
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:42,640
are under municipal plan two um
unfortunately plan two is the highest we

686
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,559
can go for our municipal staff. They
they do offer up to plan four, but they

687
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:50,799
locked out plans three and and four a
long time ago before the village um had

688
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:55,440
the opportunity to um take advantage of
that for our municipal employees. So, uh

689
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,880
what what we're doing for our municipal
staff is the village is picking up a

690
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:05,280
portion of their um their contributions.
So that this will will pick up the

691
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:10,480
contributions for police and fire so
that they they don't pay any more into

692
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:13,920
or they they aren't having deducted from
their paycheck anymore than they

693
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:18,720
currently are under plan three. So the
village is picking up the remainder of

694
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:23,440
that. And then for municipal staff,
they're dropping from the 12 point I

695
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:27,680
think it's 12.65%
down to about 9%. And you know, and I

696
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,040
know when you look at the resolutions,
it looks weird because it says, you

697
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:34,960
know, we're picking up 48%, but it's a
percentage over a percentage. And I had

698
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,240
to break out my math brain and go back
to, you know, high school algebra and be

699
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,839
like, okay, I'm doing a percentage of a
percentage. And, um, we had some

700
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,680
discussions back and forth about what
was the proper way to do that. So, um,

701
00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:52,880
but yeah, no, this has been a very long
process. And this was the the dream back

702
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:56,880
when they very first, um, voted for PRA
19 years ago. So, for and as part of

703
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:59,839
many other reasons.
>> You hear their presence right now.

704
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:04,720
» Yeah, exactly.
>> And I'd like to thank uh public safety,

705
00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:10,000
too. And as I wrote in the mayor's
report, New Mexico is number one and and

706
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:16,160
u uh property crimes number two in
violent crimes. And fortunately, Corales

707
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:20,640
is number one probably in the state and
having a good crime record and and a big

708
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:25,920
part of that is probably our public
safety, our police, and our fire

709
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:32,640
departments. Uh, and so I think they um
they they really make us a a place to

710
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:36,799
live. Um, and I think doing giving them
an increase in their parah helps

711
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:40,480
retention. I mean, that's a big thing.
You know, we're competing with

712
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:44,640
municipalities who have more bucks than
we do.

713
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:49,760
» And to to keep our
roles of public safety employees, you

714
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:55,839
know, we have to compete somehow and
sometimes we can't compete salary wise.

715
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:59,760
So the PAR really helps and so I I I
really encourage support of this.

716
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:02,960
» Yep. Thank you.
>> Uh councelor Mera.

717
00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:07,200
» Thank you Mr. Mayor. Hopefully just a
real quick question. Tanya on this one

718
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:14,480
if you can go back about 20 some years
ago maybe 30 unfortunately. Uh we had a

719
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:18,160
perra situation and a erb uh situation
in Santa Fair. Are you familiar with

720
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,760
that a little bit?
>> Mayor, council administrator Romero.

721
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,760
Yes.
>> Okay. Uh and you know how that one was

722
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,960
unequal and boy they've been trying to
make that equalized as representative

723
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:36,559
over here for the last 30 years. Does
this help or if not does it make it

724
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:45,280
equal and even if do plan five and doing
46% and the 23% will that even and make

725
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:50,079
it equal starting from here on out? So,
mayor, council, administrator Romero, do

726
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:54,880
you mean equal to what most
municipalities do? No.

727
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:58,559
» So, you go to each other in terms of
>> So, there's tier one. Yeah.

728
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:02,960
» So, to be in tier one for PAR, you had
to be into PAR before July 1st of 2013.

729
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,280
» Okay.
>> So, some of us are old enough.

730
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:12,960
» I think there's three of us still left
that are in tier one. And then I got two

731
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:20,079
back there that are in tier two. So the
main things that changes is tier tier

732
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:26,319
one we we are at a 20 year retirement.
We can go up to 100. I will remind you

733
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:29,520
I'm blended. I'm one two three and five.
So but people who are tier one

734
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:37,200
technically can go to a 20-year
retirement um or stay and then it builds

735
00:59:32,799 --> 00:59:41,920
up to up to 180 100% of their top three
years. two or two employees it's 25

736
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:44,160
years and then they can build up.
>> Okay.

737
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:49,920
» Um
what we proposed when chief was doing

738
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:55,760
this is right now fireplace we paid 13%
of our salary to PAR what we pay you're

739
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,920
paying
20.8

740
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:07,359
this is off the top of my head police
pays 10% of their salary to PAR village

741
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:12,720
staff pays 12.65 65. We proposed just to
keep it well, we first proposed it to

742
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:19,200
keep it at 10 and 12.5, but we we went
to three instead. So then we proposed to

743
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:24,960
keep it at 12.5 or 13 and 10.5 and then
drop the others. Um mo you can only pick

744
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:30,720
up 75%. That is state law. State law
says a municipality cannot pick up any

745
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:35,359
more than 75% of the employees per so a
lot of municipalities do pick up all but

746
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:40,000
4%. But we knew that this is the
village. So we said we've been doing

747
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,839
this. We we our staff is surviving.
Let's we'll do it this way.

748
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:44,319
» Okay.
>> And we respectfully hope you vote for

749
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,400
it.
>> Okay. Thank you,

750
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:51,440
» Council Murray.
>> Yeah. So that does raise point though.

751
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:56,799
If you hire somebody who has a number of
years either one or two, does it take

752
01:00:54,799 --> 01:01:00,960
him x number of years to get to the
number five or they automatically moved

753
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:04,559
into step five?
Mayor, Council, and Administrator

754
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:09,920
Merrill, that's a really good question.
I've actually done a lot of research on

755
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:13,520
that recently because I've been with the
village and she chief's been with

756
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:19,119
village since 96. I've been here since
97 before PAR. So, we could buy time. We

757
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:25,119
we could buy time to retire at a lower
rate than airtime. Um,

758
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:30,960
but what they're going to do is they're
going to look at how long I was at one,

759
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:35,760
how long I was at two, how long I was at
three, how long I stay at five. And

760
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:42,880
there's math calculations they're going
to do and say cuz right now for fire and

761
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:47,680
I believe police it's 3.5 is our tier
one multiplier.

762
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:52,960
Um, they're going to look at all of us
and say,

763
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:57,440
"This is your number. You're at 2 for so
long, 2.5 for so long, you're at 3.5 for

764
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:02,559
so long." And they're going to multiply
it together and maybe I'm 3.2. I won't

765
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,640
know till I go sit down with PAR. But
they they are going to blend it. So the

766
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:12,240
longer I'm in PAR 5, the better it is.
But for chief trying to build so when we

767
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:16,480
all retire that you have staff that have
been here and want to continue serving

768
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:21,680
the public in the way that we've grown
accustomed to.

769
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:25,359
They will be not blended.
>> Thank you.

770
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:28,599
» Okay. Any other questions or discussion
on this?

771
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:35,200
Are we prepared? Go ahead.
>> Move approval.

772
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,839
» Okay. Uh second.
>> Second.

773
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:45,119
Okay. Are are we are we including four
through eight then?

774
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:48,240
» Yes. Okay. Why you make a motion then?
>> Just as a a generic point of order

775
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:53,280
because we pulled them from the consent
agenda. We have to go through them one

776
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:56,960
by one. I I apologize for that but it is
the way it has to be. Thank you.

777
01:02:54,880 --> 01:03:01,119
» You're the worst. [laughter]
>> In that case I I move approval for item

778
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,200
number four.
>> Second.

779
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:10,400
» Any discussion? All in favor, please say
I. I. Roll call vote because it's a

780
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,960
recipe.
It's going to take a little roll call.

781
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,160
Councelor Mera.
>> Yes, sir.

782
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,599
» Councelor Wman.
>> Hi.

783
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,720
» Councelor Knight. Hi.
>> Councelor Bouquet.

784
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,353
» Hi.
>> Councilor Murray.

785
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,559
» Yes. Four times.
[laughter]

786
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,760
» Nice try.
>> Can I have a motion to approve item

787
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:29,119
number five?
>> Approve item five.

788
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,520
» Any second?
>> Any discussion?

789
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,119
Um, so we'll call for a roll call vote.
Councelor Mera.

790
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:39,839
» Yes, sir.
>> Councelor Wman, hi.

791
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:41,119
» Councelor Knight. Councelor Bet.
>> Hi.

792
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,799
» Councelor Murray.
>> Yes.

793
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:53,640
» Good. Motion carries. Um, I have a
motion to approve item number six and

794
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,640
» second. We'll give it tonight.

795
01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:02,160
» I'll second that.
>> Okay. Any discussion?

796
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,160
All in favor, please say I.
>> No.

797
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,839
» Councelor Mley,
>> yes.

798
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,000
» Councelor Mette,
>> I councelor N.

799
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,640
» Councelor Wman. Hi.
>> Councelor Mera.

800
01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:17,599
» Yes, sir.
>> Uh, item number six. May I have a motion

801
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:20,400
to approve item number six?
>> Item seven, I think.

802
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:22,480
» Item seven, I'm sorry.
>> So, move.

803
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:27,599
» Second.
>> Uh, any discussion?

804
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,720
Roll call vote. Councelor Mera.
>> Yes, sir.

805
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,079
» Councelor Wman.
>> Hi. Councelor Knight.

806
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,359
» Hi.
>> Councelor Bquette.

807
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,960
» I.
>> Councelor Murray.

808
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,760
» Yes.
>> I have a motion to approve item number

809
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,079
eight. Now
>> so move.

810
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,839
» Second.
>> Any discussion?

811
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,960
» Roll call vote. Councelor Murray.
>> Yes.

812
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,400
» Councelor Burquette.
>> I.

813
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,520
» Councelor Knight.
>> Councelor Wman.

814
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,039
» Hi.
>> Councelor Mera.

815
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,880
» Yes, sir.
>> Motion carries. So items four through

816
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:57,000
eight all were approved. Uh Chief, you
want to say a few words?

817
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:09,359
Mayor, council, administrator. Um, just
want to say thank you. Um, I'm looking

818
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:14,400
up here at the pictures of the mayors
and stuff and I heard a word earlier

819
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:19,039
about persistence and I could tell you
that from I wasn't always, you know,

820
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:22,640
chief at the time, but we've always been
an advocate for our staff and employees.

821
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:29,359
when I became chief, I've been
persistent uh to the point of, you know,

822
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:34,559
every budget we have to look at, you
know, do we do a cost of living or can

823
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:39,359
we increase our our costs or employees
wages and it was almost like even and

824
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:45,359
odd years and then the odd years were
like how can we try to justify pay so

825
01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:49,680
it's literally 19 years in the making
and I just want to mayor thank you for

826
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:53,760
you know our budget meetings and and
hearing us out the police chiefs behind

827
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:58,960
me here. Uh I'm speaking on behalf of
the fire department, but this is huge

828
01:05:55,359 --> 01:06:03,440
for us as far as my staff here for me
all the time. Thank you and what a good

829
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:08,160
job they're doing. But tonight by with
your vote, you're showing not only the

830
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:11,920
staff of the village, your employees
that serve this community how much you

831
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,160
appreciate that. So, thank you.
>> Thank you.

832
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:23,920
Castle. Uh I echo what the fire chief
said. Just thank you and we are

833
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:28,000
confident it's going to help with
recruitment and retention which has been

834
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:32,160
a battle for us uh competing with these
large agencies in the metro area here

835
01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:36,079
and uh may have already worked. We have
a guy starting with us on Tuesday and we

836
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:38,960
told him it wasn't a done deal yet but
this was one of the selling points. So

837
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,520
thank you very much.
>> Thank you very much.

838
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:48,319
Mayor, what question? Good.
>> Yes, councelor Mur.

839
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:51,680
» Could both uh the chiefs uh tell us
where your staffing levels are at right

840
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:58,319
now?
>> We are at uh will be Tuesday at 16 out

841
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:03,440
of 17 sworn positions. So that's the 6%
uh vacancy rate and we have another

842
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:08,400
applicant who is certified in the
background phase right now. If we do

843
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:12,240
reach full staffing, the 17 out of 17
budgeted positions, it'll be the first

844
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:16,640
time since 2021,
at which time we were only budgeted 15

845
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:20,640
positions. When we when we got bumped up
to 16 and then to 17, we never reached

846
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:24,760
the maximum number.
>> Thank you, Chief.

847
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,760
» So, thank you.

848
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,160
» I apologize. I didn't hear the question.
>> I was just wondering where your current

849
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:37,359
staffing levels at. or how many
positions are open or full staff or

850
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:41,839
» mayor, council, we're at full staff. Uh
we have we have hired uh our our

851
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:45,920
vacancies have been filled. So we're
currently in the process of training

852
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:49,760
them. We started last week. Uh this is
the second week in training and we're

853
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:53,839
doing we're starting with uh internal
trainings with wildland. focus on

854
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:59,520
wildland fire that we could do in house.
And then we're actively looking for uh

855
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:04,319
EMT classes availability and then of
course the fire one, fire two uh

856
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,760
certifications through the state of New
Mexico at the Sakura Academy.

857
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,960
» Thank you very much, G.
>> Yeah, thank you.

858
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:11,960
» Thank you.

859
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:23,440
Uh, next item, old business number one,
consideration, action, and approval of

860
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:29,359
resolution 2615,
publication for ordinance 2602, an

861
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:34,400
ordinance providing no parking areas
along residential streets, neighboring

862
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:38,400
commercial establishments. Uh, may I
have a motion to open this up?

863
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:42,000
» So move.
>> Second.

864
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:45,359
Okay, there's been a motion to second.
Any discussion?

865
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:50,640
Yes, Councelor Murray.
>> Thank you, Mayor. So, uh, in looking at

866
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:56,080
this draft, I have come to the
conclusion that the parking ordinance

867
01:08:53,359 --> 01:09:02,880
does not belong in zoning. I believe it
belongs somewhere either in 1492, which

868
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:08,000
is the I think the uh current legal or
where things are cited, but it needs a

869
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:11,520
little bit of work. Uh, I'm not totally
agree. I mean, I don't totally disagree

870
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:17,520
with all the language, but I think it
just needs to be reorganized and put

871
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:24,080
into 1492 rather than under 1839.
Also, uh there are concerns I have about

872
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:29,440
the uh changing the seating ordinance
because there are some issues there that

873
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:34,960
uh we haven't addressed. That is that
one, you're asking to amend the seating

874
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:40,000
ordinance and not repeal the previous
one. So either we need to repeal the old

875
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:43,520
ordinance and insert this one as new
language because if we don't we're going

876
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:48,080
to have confliction because you've got
an old ordinance and a new ordinance and

877
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:53,040
there's conflicting uh components of
both if you have both of them at the

878
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:58,560
same time. So I think we need to repeal
the original 1839 C2 and then insert the

879
01:09:56,719 --> 01:10:04,640
new language at that point. You also
need to grandfather in the existing STPs

880
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:09,120
because if you don't, then if somebody
asks an amended STP, they're going to

881
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:14,960
have to come in under the new language.
And is that fair for our businesses that

882
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:19,280
if they have to want to amend their SDP
that now they have to comply with the

883
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:23,360
new seating ordinance and the parking
versus the old one that they originally

884
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:29,440
got their uh site development plan
under? So, there are some things there I

885
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:32,560
think need to be addressed. I I know
this. I worked on this about all

886
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:38,400
afternoon trying to figure out how to
reorganize this and it's and councelor

887
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:41,920
Bquerette will kill me because I got 14
different amendments that I need.

888
01:10:40,518 --> 01:10:44,960
[laughter]
He's going to murder me. Step out the

889
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:50,400
door, you know.
>> But I I just really think that we need

890
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:55,440
to readress this and move it into 1492
or some other location where it is now

891
01:10:52,800 --> 01:11:00,719
an enforcement issue and not a zoning
issue. A question might be, you know, do

892
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:04,000
you think there they're different issues
and they ought to be addressed different

893
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:09,600
issues instead of lumped together all in
one uh ordinance. That does bring up the

894
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:14,880
question about we were putting one uh we
were creating a paragraph 15 that was to

895
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:19,440
go in under 1492
and I think we just need to create a new

896
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:23,920
subsection that deals with enforcement
and that way it doesn't there was an

897
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:27,600
issue where you might have an officer
who might site somebody and then he

898
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:32,000
could have his vehicle towed at the same
time. Now is that correct? I don't know,

899
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:35,120
but I think we need to take a look at
that and just uh I think there are

900
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,800
things there that we just need to
resolve before we put this into an

901
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:43,040
ordinance.
>> Briquette.

902
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:47,199
» Uh thank you, mayor. Um so two kind of
separate points or thoughts. One is on

903
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:52,800
this what you're talking about as far as
the

904
01:11:48,719 --> 01:11:56,960
um parking per two chairs. Um I don't
think it I don't think it's a reasonable

905
01:11:54,719 --> 01:12:00,560
number. Um, I went to two of our
probably most reputable establishments

906
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:04,640
in town. From a parking standpoint, I've
never heard a single complaint about

907
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:10,880
overflow parking. Um, one of them has a
100 seats and 25 parking spots. Um, the

908
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:14,800
other one has 70 parking spots and they
have I didn't go inside this place, but

909
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:20,800
they have in my mind probably close to
200 seats. Um

910
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:25,600
there is no way that if they were to try
to come into the village and again these

911
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:30,719
are model citizens, model businesses,
there is no way they could come into the

912
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:36,000
village and meet these criteria. Um so I
just don't think it's a reasonable

913
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,320
number. um on a grander scale um and I
actually think this is a very

914
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:42,640
well-ritten policy and I think it's
something we may have to go to but I

915
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,280
would love to see I mean I think there's
these spectrums that we have to look at

916
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:50,320
when we're looking at all of our
policies friendly unfriendly using

917
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:55,360
resources that we have now versus going
to get new resources uh unintended

918
01:12:52,719 --> 01:12:58,640
consequences versus limited unintended
consequences and I think we have to have

919
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:02,239
the desire to do the stuff on the left
left side of the spectrum whenever

920
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:06,320
possible uh and probably an obligation
to do that. And we have empty lots in

921
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,560
the village that we're doing site
development plans on that I would like

922
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:17,120
to see those site development plans
happen prior to us enacting anything uh

923
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:21,360
new on parking with parking on those and
with signs that say village parking so

924
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:25,440
we can see if that relieves the parking
pressure because even if it relieves it

925
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:30,080
75% then maybe we need a different
version of this. But if we have empty

926
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:34,719
lots sitting next to businesses and I
feel like we owe the citizens, we owe

927
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:37,520
the businesses um a solution and it's
sitting right there with really limited

928
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:41,600
stuff and we're working on these site
developments already that um we're not

929
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:46,000
doing our job if we're not putting
parking on some of those and giving

930
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:50,800
people a friendly an option without
unintended consequences um to solve this

931
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:54,719
problem before we put up signs all over
the village. So, I would move that if we

932
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:58,640
do move this thing forward, I'm going to
want to amend it to where we don't do so

933
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:04,640
until we have those site development
plans with parking in place and we see

934
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:10,239
if that solves the problem.
I'd like to bring up an issue too of um

935
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:15,440
uh
couple things that weren't addressed in

936
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:20,880
in this version uh had that have been
brought up before is where do you have

937
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:27,760
the signs? What do the signs mean? Um,
and also if council bur wants to hold a

938
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:33,280
barbecue party at his home, uh, where
can those people park? Uh, this

939
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:40,080
ordinance doesn't allow that. Um,
I'll just throw something out just just

940
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:46,880
for, you know, discussion. um that maybe
um talking about the neighbor commercial

941
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:52,800
zone uh you have a sign no park
residents parking only coming into the

942
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:58,480
street from Corales and 300 ft back you
have another sign that addresses the

943
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:03,199
traffic coming into so you have incoming
traffic on that residential road you

944
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:08,239
have no parking signs between those
signs coming in from Carales Road and

945
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:16,400
coming in from interior drains. Say
there'll be a new no parking uh sign 350

946
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:22,719
ft deep uh along that road. Uh another
another issue is is um you know uh

947
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:28,159
having
uh council burst barbecue party or

948
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:35,760
anybody else's um you know I wonder
whether there should be an allowance for

949
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:40,239
guests of of a resident and um I think
it's really simple and actually this

950
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:46,400
afternoon I I mocked up a
a little sign here

951
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:54,000
and something like This can be put on
the dashboard of the car and basically

952
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:59,120
it says guest. You're a guest of a
resident who lives there. The resident's

953
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:03,920
address is here right below guest. So if
anybody has a question who is the host

954
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:10,719
of the guest, the address is right
there. There's a permit number.

955
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:17,120
the car uh Ford 250 truck white license
plate number and the days and and it's

956
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:24,960
just you know half a dozen data points
and it allows for people to have guests

957
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:30,560
at their place um parties graduations um
you know so it's not no parking no

958
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:36,719
parking is simple but yet it seems to
have allowance for guests would be

959
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:42,560
reasonable I know that Um I and Melanie
have looked into several possibilities

960
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:47,840
of either doing this online. Um maybe
through the website that we currently

961
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:53,440
have or using a separate vendor links to
the website and or you know a very

962
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:58,000
simple thing is uh a resident can just
write this out. I mean it's just the

963
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:03,040
number of data is very small. It's a
guest. It's got my address there. If

964
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:08,480
anybody has a question there's my
address. I'm home. The the license plate

965
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:14,880
number, the descriptor of the car, and
the date. I mean, that it's just I I

966
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:19,440
think it it's an easy way to accommodate
having guests. So, I think just to throw

967
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:23,600
that in the mix of as we discussed a no
parking ordinance, uh there a lot of

968
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:29,679
different components of this where there
you know go to seating um number of

969
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:37,199
parking places per seats, tables, that
sort of stuff. um uh no parking on

970
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:40,560
residential streets. Uh I think one or
two things that have been brought up is

971
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:45,280
you know where the science place and
what about gas and and I think I just

972
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:52,000
like to throw this out to add to the
discussion of you know how we how we

973
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:56,640
design uh a no parking in uh residential
areas uh ordinance. Yes, councelor

974
01:17:54,239 --> 01:18:00,960
Murray. Well, so to add to that, my son
lives up around the wheel Wilshire in

975
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:05,199
Jefferson and during Bloomfest, they
close off Jefferson, but they have a

976
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:08,880
placard that gets issued by the Bloom
Festa. Basically just says gives them

977
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:13,360
permission as long as you got that
placard in your windshield, you're

978
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:18,000
allowed into the area. It it doesn't
require any

979
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:21,280
addresses, doesn't require any uh
information about the car, but as long

980
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:24,960
as you got that placard, you're allowed
into that area. That's that's all we

981
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:30,159
have to do. We could even include just
say dates, you know, three days or

982
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:33,760
whatever it is, date one, you know, it
could be June 1st through June 3rd. I

983
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,840
think that would probably cover it, but
that'd be myology.

984
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:41,920
» Um, if if I may, mayor and council, um,
I I have been looking into different

985
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:47,199
solutions for this. Um, we we did ask
our attorneys to weigh in on, you know,

986
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:53,679
the the legality of residential parking
only. and their recommendation is that,

987
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:58,000
you know, from a a legal perspective, we
should have some sort of permitting

988
01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:06,480
process. And so I've I've have had two
meetings so far. Um, one with a company

989
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:12,560
called um Shau, and they they do um
sort of a uh build from scratch parking

990
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:18,480
solution. And so they they would be able
to create a a website, a app, whatever

991
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:23,360
we want that would be able to do these
parking permits where people could to do

992
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:29,440
could register for them online. However,
it would take up to 6 months and $60,000

993
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:34,640
to do that. Yesterday, I had a meeting
with a company called Honk, um which you

994
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:38,880
know, it's just it's kind of fun to say.
um their recommendation when I explained

995
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:43,440
what the situation was is the guy's
first question was do you have public

996
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:46,880
parking available somewhere in the
village. So that was his first

997
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:52,719
recommendation. Um second recommendation
is they can do something for us but um

998
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:56,960
the way their app works is you have to
have paid parking and that's how the the

999
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:01,360
app gets paid for. So, we would we would
then have to we we could do a solution

1000
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:04,159
where if a resident could prove that
they live in the village, they would

1001
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:07,760
have to pro provide their car
registration, which I don't know that

1002
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:10,560
anybody would want to do, but they would
have to prove somehow that they're a

1003
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:16,239
resident of the village and then they
could have free parking. Um but then I

1004
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:19,760
have another um another meeting
scheduled for tomorrow. So, that's just

1005
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:25,120
sort of what I'm learning so far. So,
there are options to be able to do this

1006
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:27,040
this sort of thing. Um, but it just
depends on how much we want to pay for

1007
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,520
it.
>> That's so nice.

1008
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:36,400
» Thank you, mayor. I think
it's it's too much rigor. If you live up

1009
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,920
in the sand hills, just go to your
neighbor and say, "I'm having a party

1010
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:45,280
tonight. There's going to be more cars
on the street." If it's only for like

1011
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:50,719
one day for four hours, I don't think
most people would argue with that. I I

1012
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:54,800
think they having to go and get signs
and and permits, it's going to be a

1013
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:59,360
mess. and people aren't going to like it
because it's extra work.

1014
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:03,520
» Um, you know, down in the commercial
district's a little different, but you

1015
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:06,960
know, up where I live, right?
>> You know, things like that, you just go

1016
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:10,400
to your neighbor and say, "Yeah, you can
park there for a couple hours. It's it's

1017
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,080
no big deal."
>> Right. This was what I said was just

1018
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:18,320
pertains to the neighborhood commercial
area, not the Sand Hills.

1019
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:22,239
» Okay. So So this you're only talking
about the the

1020
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:27,080
» neighborhood commercial zone. Oh,
>> this Lori would like to

1021
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:37,840
» other people. Okay,
>> counselors, mayor, administrator, if if

1022
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:43,120
I might. Um,
we're we're not going to cover the

1023
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:48,000
village with signs. Let me just read and
kind of tell you what the intent was

1024
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:52,320
when planning and zoning uh and I were
talking about this, the commission

1025
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:56,560
rather. Um,
it's section 1839 off- streetet parking

1026
01:21:54,719 --> 01:22:02,080
requirements. That that section already
exists and people who have commercial

1027
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:07,199
site development plan applications are
referred to that section. And so what it

1028
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:13,679
would now say commercial parking on
residential streets upon notice by code

1029
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:19,280
enforcement or when warranted by ongoing
public safety concerns. So, we're

1030
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:24,400
talking about ongoing chronic issues
really having to do with commercial

1031
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:27,840
parking um and residential streets. In
those instances, the village

1032
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:32,480
administrator may direct that any part
of a residential street be posted with

1033
01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:38,560
signs reading no parking.
This will be used judiciously and in a

1034
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:45,280
limited fast fashion. Um, Carllis PD
will have their full discretion as to

1035
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:49,120
how to handle a situation. Um,
I I just want to assure you that it's

1036
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:54,239
it's really a limited scope. We're we're
not talking about the neighborhood

1037
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:58,960
barbecue or oneoffs. We're talking about
chronic ongoing issues. If there was a

1038
01:22:56,719 --> 01:23:03,199
neighborhood that had some sort of
chronic ongoing issue with a say a home

1039
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:07,440
occupation, it might be suitable in that
case. But again, it would have to be

1040
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:12,800
upon notice by the code enforcement
officer or EMS that there's there's this

1041
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:17,120
issue and it won't it won't quit and we
need to look at it there and then the

1042
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:22,080
administrator would have to agree. So, I
just want to assure you it's not going

1043
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:26,239
to be blanketing the village with signs.
Actually there uh there are five uh

1044
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:30,719
persons from the public who would like
to speak. So why don't we just interject

1045
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:37,639
that now and then we can discuss more
afterwards. So um Mandy

1046
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,639
» Sandy Rasmusen

1047
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:48,639
» Sandy Rasmusen 65 Target Road I'm going
to put this in my mouth because it's the

1048
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:53,040
only way it works. So, I am not going to
dispute the parking thing, although you

1049
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:57,920
all had good ideas, but I just would
like to bring forth the idea that if

1050
01:23:55,199 --> 01:24:02,880
we're not going to allow parking on side
streets, that we need to provide

1051
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:08,560
alternatives. Um, I'd like to see both
the Anderson and the Gonzalez Field have

1052
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:13,920
parking spaces. Anderson can cover
Heritage House or whatever it's called,

1053
01:24:10,719 --> 01:24:19,600
and the rec center. Um but down where
the meat of the traffic is, Gonzalez is

1054
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:24,239
a necessary thing. So just think about
this. But many of them you've already

1055
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:28,560
said, um but we have many residents that
do not live,

1056
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:34,320
they live in the sand hills up there.
They can't walk down to support our

1057
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:39,360
village or come and enjoy it. We have an
aging population that may not be able to

1058
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:46,639
walk very far. We have very little
parking for Lra Park. that is

1059
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:50,320
not private property. Um, and we seem to
forget that the rural feeling we are all

1060
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:55,199
trying to sustain doesn't have
sidewalks, which none of us, including

1061
01:24:52,320 --> 01:25:00,320
me, do not want to see, but walking long
distance is not always practical. That

1062
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:03,360
our rural field can be sustained and
still include those that are not

1063
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:07,760
residents.
And since we don't have a plan yet

1064
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:12,080
except for bathrooms for the Gonzalez
Field, um if we even could put temporary

1065
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:16,239
parking there and see how that works
because that was kind of what was

1066
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:20,159
mentioned by a lot of you. But and this
doesn't necessarily have to do with

1067
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:24,560
parking, but it is part of the problem.
So the saddest thing of all is that we

1068
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:28,480
used to be a village that supported each
other. If we had an issue, we went and

1069
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:33,199
talked to our neighbor. We didn't come
and make an ordinance. And all this

1070
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:38,080
bickering I feel is dividing us and
that's changing the feel of our village

1071
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:44,080
way more than any outsiders. There are
many people in this room who are

1072
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:48,560
coralenos also and we really do care
about our village. So I hope that we can

1073
01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:54,000
start to work together again and be the
village that we used to be. Thank you.

1074
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:59,639
» Thank you. Next
>> Bob Ike.

1075
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:59,639
Bob Ike,

1076
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:12,040
Bob, I of course live in Corales. Uh

1077
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:20,639
we can't have any loopholes.
Every ordinance that's being written has

1078
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:24,639
a loophole in it. How many signs is it?
One be one sign from here all the way to

1079
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:28,159
Lrada. No, you can't stop all that
parking.

1080
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:31,920
Is it between signs? It's got to be
spelled out. You cannot put in the

1081
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:35,520
ordinance that it will be done
judiciously.

1082
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:40,639
That doesn't work. Who in the heck's
judicious?

1083
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:45,360
You have to spell out each particular
that you want to control.

1084
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:51,360
As soon as you start saying we can put
signs here and there and in between,

1085
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:55,520
you've destroyed the village.
And that's not what we're here for.

1086
01:26:52,719 --> 01:26:59,280
We're here to protect the village.
So be careful with your signs. Be

1087
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:04,239
careful with your ordinance. No
loopholes.

1088
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:08,080
It and indeference said it cannot be
done judiciously.

1089
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:12,320
If we change administrators, we change
P&Z,

1090
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:17,920
what's the next person going to do?
That's what you can't allow for. You

1091
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:23,920
can't allow for an unknown. So
everything has to be spelled out. It has

1092
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:26,800
to be it has to be clear as you can get
or else there's going to be people like

1093
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:31,520
me that'll come up here and find holes
in it and complain.

1094
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:39,040
So,
just be very careful. We don't need

1095
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:43,120
permits. Uh Fred sign is great. If you
have to have colored paper makes a damn

1096
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:47,360
good permit.
It damn sure doesn't cost 60,000 bucks

1097
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:55,440
or 6,000 bucks. Colored paper is pretty
cheap. But no, let's be very careful and

1098
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:59,920
I don't mind stepping on toes. I do it
all the time. But don't stomp on them.

1099
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:06,600
» Thank you.
>> Thank you. Next, Mandy.

1100
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,600
» Um, Charles Polling.

1101
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:15,040
» Hi, Charles Polling on Priestly Road.
Um, feels like deja vu talking to you

1102
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:19,040
all about parking again. We've done this
before. Um, and and this conversation

1103
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:23,199
sort of tore up. high talking points I
think because I see you know there's

1104
01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:27,600
maybe a new direction here but so what I
would ask so we live on Priestley uh

1105
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:32,560
Priestly and Corval get overflow parking
from the herited house still okay you

1106
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:36,239
know it still happens there's public
parking right across the street at the

1107
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:40,480
farmers market people don't use it it's
too far and that's a tough crosswalk and

1108
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:44,639
the crosswalk issue brings up the safety
issue which is that when people are

1109
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:48,320
parking along Priestley uh if you're
trying to get out it's a choke point

1110
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:52,080
there with cars on both sides If you're
trying to be a pedestrian through that,

1111
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:57,199
good luck. And we also have cars, you
know, the turn into Priestley and Corval

1112
01:28:54,719 --> 01:29:01,679
going northbound is a little bit of a
blind turn on Priestley. We have the

1113
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:05,440
mailboxes right out near the Corrow Road
intersection. You've got cars kind of

1114
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:09,920
parked on the road. It's just not a good
situation. So, I just ask for science. I

1115
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:13,679
ask you to solve the problem. And I
think exemp exemptions can be done. And

1116
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:16,960
I think it's it's it's just really not
accurate to say, "Oh, it's got to be all

1117
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:21,120
or nothing." Because, you know, you
exempt utility com utility workers when

1118
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:24,080
they're working on the roadside or a
tree company. They put cones up. There

1119
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:27,760
are ways to handle this. You let the
police know um you can handle the

1120
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:31,040
exemption. And of course, we are only
talking about the commercial district.

1121
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:34,880
And right now, I think we all know the
problem streets are Corval, Priestley,

1122
01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:38,080
and East and West L. And they just get a
lot of overflow. And and you know, you

1123
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:41,600
can't control what the public does
unless you have signs that tell them

1124
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:45,040
what to do. Thanks.
Mayor, can I add one comment to

1125
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:48,480
something? So, I think the distance to
the parking lot is maybe a contributing

1126
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:53,520
factor, but the fact that the village
wants to charge Heritage House to tell

1127
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:57,920
their patrons to use a public parking
lot is another thing. They would put

1128
01:29:55,679 --> 01:30:01,679
signs up. If there was a sign that said
free public parking directly across the

1129
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:05,199
street and everyone saw that, the
distance wouldn't be as big of a deal.

1130
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:09,520
But Heritage House is being told they
can't use that parking lot unless they

1131
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:17,679
rent it from us. And that's nonsense.
No, it's I I I I mean, you know, people

1132
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:23,840
can park the municipal lot, you know,
they can park at the bank and

1133
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:28,800
uh it's not that they can park there,
they can't rent it. Uh they can park

1134
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:30,880
there. I mean, I maybe I'm naive, but
>> and they put up a sign that says

1135
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:37,360
parking,
>> but I I think that if Heritage Charge

1136
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:41,920
House wants to have that lot exclusively
for itself, then it pays then it pays a

1137
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:47,760
fee, whatever it is, 10 bucks an hour or
something, which is not much, but if if

1138
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:54,320
someone wants payment of the heritage
house wants to use it, hey, you know, uh

1139
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:57,920
I that that that's my park here. taking
part of the bank.

1140
01:30:56,239 --> 01:31:01,920
» Yes, council Mary.
>> So, this also brings up a good point

1141
01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:08,639
that council Burkehead is addressing
too. It is unsafe to cross Grow Road

1142
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:13,920
from the rec center to the Heritage
House. We've been after DOT.

1143
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:17,360
» Oh, sorry.
>> Appreciate that.

1144
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:20,320
» Thank you, Daddy.
>> See, you thought I was upset. She was

1145
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,440
really upset with how wordy you were
last meeting.

1146
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:28,880
» It's a coincidence. Sorry.
>> But the point is we've been after DOT

1147
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:34,239
for a a lighted crosswalk at that point
>> and at night uh when they were having an

1148
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:38,159
event getting across crossroad safety. I
mean we've got flags there but they are

1149
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,880
not very good at night.
>> And I think it's a safety issue as well.

1150
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:44,960
» Y
>> so that that's paramount if we're going

1151
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:49,280
to allow them to use the rec center.
We're going to we're going to be liable

1152
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:54,000
somewhere on this hook if somebody gets
killed crossing that road. Why don't we

1153
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:57,679
let the two public people who would who
signed up to speak speak and then we can

1154
01:31:55,760 --> 01:32:01,639
discuss it further. Uh who's next?
Mandy.

1155
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:01,639
» Troy Howard.

1156
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:14,719
» Hi Troy Howard. I live in Corales. Uh,
dear mayor and members of village

1157
01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:18,400
council, I am reading regarding writing
this uh, regarding the proposed

1158
01:32:16,639 --> 01:32:22,639
restrictions on the parking along
village rightaways. As a business owner,

1159
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:26,960
I respectfully ask that the village
carefully consider the impact these

1160
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:31,920
changes may have on local businesses and
restaurants uh, residents they serve.

1161
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:36,239
Many businesses have invested
significant time and resources based on

1162
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:40,400
the current parking conditions.
Restricting parking without adequate

1163
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:45,040
alternatives could reduce customers
access and create unnecessary challenges

1164
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:50,080
for businesses. It will contribute to
the character and economic vitality of

1165
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:54,639
Coralis. If the village believes parking
changes are necessary, I encourage the

1166
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:58,960
council to work collaboratively with
business owners to identify particular

1167
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:04,080
solutions before implementing
restrictions. Options such as public

1168
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:09,040
parking areas, alternative parking
locations, zoning modifications, or

1169
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:13,520
variances could help address concerns
while minimizing the impact on local

1170
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:17,120
businesses. I appreciate your time and
consideration and hope that the village

1171
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:21,600
will work with the businesses to find a
solution that benefit the entire

1172
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:26,920
community. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. Next, Mandy.

1173
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,920
» Mary Bolio.

1174
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,560
» Who was that?
>> Mary.

1175
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:42,639
» Hello again. Um, thank you, mayor, and
thank you council members again for

1176
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:49,440
bringing this important topic for
discussion. Um, in addition to the email

1177
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:54,880
and the photos that I sent you recently,
uh, I would like to add to the list of

1178
01:33:51,840 --> 01:34:00,960
safety concerns already mentioned that
residents and business owners are not

1179
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:05,840
trained to deal with the general public.
And that is what we're seeing an

1180
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:11,760
increased influx of the public coming
into our village into our neighborhoods.

1181
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:16,400
Uh it is dangerous in this day and age
to approach anyone and ask them to maybe

1182
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:22,560
move their car because they're blocking
our driveway, blocking our trash pickup,

1183
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:26,719
blocking our access to our trailer when
we're taking our green waste. Those

1184
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:33,600
kinds of things are now dangerous
because we don't know always. they're

1185
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:37,840
not maybe our neighbors. Uh so there's a
there's a real need for prof we need

1186
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:45,760
professional help [laughter] in more
ways than one. But uh we do need our law

1187
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:50,400
enforcement to help us on these times
when we feel very vulnerable and

1188
01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:57,840
exposed. We should not be asked to do
this on our own. We don't have the

1189
01:34:52,960 --> 01:35:02,800
skills. Um, no parking signs are the key
to the law enforcement. They are

1190
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:08,159
universally understood. So, people
coming from other communities, they get

1191
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:13,520
it and we all understand it. And if
we're talking about guests parking in

1192
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:18,800
front of my house, well, if even if I
wanted to have a few friends over, if

1193
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:23,360
the business overflow parking is is all
in front of my house, there's no room

1194
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:29,040
for my guests to park either. So, what
we do is we always stack people in our

1195
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:33,120
driveway and sometimes we move our cars
down the road. We'll ask a neighbor,

1196
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:38,000
"Can we use one of your parking spots or
two for our cars so we can fit more on

1197
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:43,679
our property?" There are ways of dealing
with this as residents. Is it a

1198
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:49,600
sacrifice? Sure. Is it an adjustment?
Sure. Do we accept it because we support

1199
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:54,960
local business? You bet. It's worth it
and it's a unique situation, but it's

1200
01:35:52,639 --> 01:36:00,320
the most important thing is that the
children on my street are safe. They can

1201
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:06,719
get to the mailbox. They can walk across
to the pool, to the soccer fields. And

1202
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:12,080
that is the most important issue here.
Consequences are is of not doing

1203
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:17,600
anything is that something tragic will
happen eventually. Let's not wait for

1204
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:23,840
that. Our community does not need that
black eye. We do need to make an

1205
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:28,320
adjustment. It's it's responsible growth
and we can do it. And there are

1206
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:34,080
sacrifices that need to be made for
public safety. And our our law

1207
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:39,360
enforcement needs the clear distinct
signage to enforce the law. And this is

1208
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:43,520
what they have told us. Please put the
signs up for all of our safety. Thank

1209
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:47,600
you.
>> Thank you.

1210
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:53,520
uh in the discussion by council
councelor Roman.

1211
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:57,440
» Uh yeah, I um strongly support uh
councelor Burquette and and councelor

1212
01:36:55,119 --> 01:37:02,560
Murray. Uh we can get public parking
first. I think we have uh some resources

1213
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:07,040
that we can use. Uh I don't know where
the site development plans are. Uh we

1214
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:11,280
hear promises, but apparently they're in
the works. Uh but also I think it's

1215
01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:14,960
really important as the councelor Murray
pointed out that if we're going to

1216
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:20,400
encourage people to use public parking
on the west side of Corell's Road to get

1217
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:27,600
to the businesses, there needs to be
some kind of lighting. Uh I mean it's

1218
01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:31,520
now uh almost 8:30. All right. 8:10 it's
light. Six months from now it's going to

1219
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:35,280
be dark and through all the winter it's
going to be dark and people are going to

1220
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:39,040
be going to restaurants and bars using
the public parking places but along

1221
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:44,480
Coralis where there needs to be some
lighting. Now if it has to be I don't

1222
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:50,080
know what the depth is beyond uh Corales
road that the village can access

1223
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:54,080
lighting and not interfere with this
next do but there's got to be some way

1224
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:58,159
that we can we can handle that people
are people are safe. that's separate and

1225
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:02,560
apart from the really critical issue of
crossing Carellis Road. But it's I think

1226
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:07,840
that's important as well
that that these parking lots are going

1227
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:12,560
to be not adjacent to but somewhat near
the businesses that we're discussing uh

1228
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:17,679
and and we should use them and before I
think before as a gentleman point out

1229
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:22,719
before we uh delve into parking signs
let's see as councelor Bquette indicated

1230
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:27,840
let's see if these parking lots work and
it may be 60% 75%

1231
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:29,280
um and and we can deal with the rest
after that.

1232
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:34,639
» Marie,
>> and also one other question if I could.

1233
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:38,480
The um the packet indicated that the
sign ordinance next meeting is going to

1234
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:41,440
be on July 23rd. Is that July 23rd or
June 23rd?

1235
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:45,119
» June 23rd. Well, so we have we have a
meeting on June 23rd and then we have a

1236
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:49,199
meeting in in July, I believe also on
the 23rd. It's that Thursday night

1237
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:52,800
meeting that that we had scheduled. So
the but the um the uniform traffic

1238
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:56,239
ordinance, is that the one you're
talking about? Yeah, that one will be

1239
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:59,679
June 2. 23.
>> And also, um, if I may answer your

1240
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:04,239
question, if it's okay, mayor. Sure.
>> Um, the Anderson site development plan,

1241
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:08,239
uh, we do have to wait until after the
new fiscal year, um, to be able to issue

1242
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:13,600
the PO, um, so we don't get ourselves in
trouble with our auditor for, you know,

1243
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:18,320
um, so that site development plan will
go into effect as as soon as we can

1244
01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:23,360
issue a PO at the after July 1st. That
one is a go. PO4

1245
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:28,239
» um the the work for the Anderson lot
>> to to do the site development plan

1246
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:29,360
» to to make it a parking lot. Yeah. We we
had

1247
01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:32,239
» the site development.
>> Yes. To make the site development plan

1248
01:39:30,639 --> 01:39:36,560
for the parking lot that that council
saw and and uh voted to move forward

1249
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:40,560
with for the Gonzalez property. That one
is already underway. However, it no

1250
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:45,440
parking is being considered. The only
thing that we were directed to create a

1251
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:49,199
a plan for was just those bathrooms. So
that plan will not show any parking at

1252
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:52,800
all. you walk to the bathrooms
>> unless we choose to add that to the plan

1253
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,400
before it comes out.
>> Yep.

1254
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,639
» Okay,
>> that's we should do that.

1255
01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:01,040
» Yeah. What's the pathway to do that?
Just amend this amend this motion that

1256
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:03,679
we do that before we do publish and
post.

1257
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:07,760
» I think I think we should um we should
probably have it as a as an agenda item

1258
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,040
on the next meeting so that it's
properly noticed to the public and that

1259
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:15,119
that way if if somebody wants to come
and show support for having parking on

1260
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:18,000
the Gonzalez property, they have the
opportunity to do that.

1261
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:21,600
» Okay. Thank you,
>> Council Murray.

1262
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:25,760
» Well, along those lines, and I'm going
to support the public parking, but I'm

1263
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:31,040
also going to support that we reserve a
portion of both of these lots as open

1264
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:36,960
space because at some point, we're going
to want to improve these properties and

1265
01:40:34,159 --> 01:40:41,040
make them something beyond other than a
parking lot

1266
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:45,520
» because it's, you know, I love open
space. I love but a parking lot it's

1267
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:48,960
kind of like what's that song you know
cut down a tree and put and pave a

1268
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:52,719
parking lot or put up a parking lot
that's not go that's not Corales and I

1269
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:57,440
want to see something that reflects
Corales's values I don't want a wire

1270
01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:02,239
fence I want something that looks
attractive and it's going to be enhance

1271
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:08,560
the village so uh if we're going to have
this as a as a item I would support that

1272
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:11,360
» yeah I I I mean
I [clears throat] think parking on the

1273
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:15,679
gazal side is fine
But you know the Gonzalez law can be

1274
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:20,960
used a lot more than for parking.
>> Uh you know I mean I was a part of a

1275
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:27,840
group that planned proposed a heritage
park there um and extension of law park

1276
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:32,159
and parking was part of it too but not
parking right in front on Corales road

1277
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:37,840
but to have some vegetation buffer to
make it to make it more corales instead

1278
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:43,920
of oh it's a parking lot. And so all
that has to be uh talked about and and

1279
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:52,400
I've there are a half a dozen or so
architects who are uh working to try to

1280
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:57,199
help um us is is is going forth and
getting uh architect on call architect

1281
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:02,159
uh that'll help with some of this
planning. So whether it's probably

1282
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:06,239
better that way than
the mayor or the administrator or even

1283
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:11,119
council sort of drawing up a plan and
saying hey you know this is what we

1284
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:14,480
ought to do but maybe have some have
some expertise come in as people have

1285
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:18,320
talked about doing something
professional

1286
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:23,440
uh before we just say oh yeah we'll make
it a parking lot but I mean I think a

1287
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:28,239
parking lot should be part of it but is
not the perhaps a primary part of that

1288
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:33,199
that
that [clears throat] real estate.

1289
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:37,760
Councelor Knight,
>> um, is Anderson also gonna be for the

1290
01:42:35,679 --> 01:42:40,960
growers market? So, it's not just going
to be a parking lot, but it'll be also

1291
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:44,880
for the growers market.
>> The growers market can use that.

1292
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:48,800
Correct.
>> Like they use the current growers market

1293
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:52,560
lot, which is I mean, it's basically a
parking lot.

1294
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:55,920
» So, they can use the Anderson.
>> Sure. Everybody knew that that's where

1295
01:42:54,400 --> 01:43:00,000
the growers market's probably going to
go to. Yeah, I mean it's got almost two

1296
01:42:58,159 --> 01:43:07,920
acres I think the Anderson law. So
that's a a lot of space for Gorers

1297
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:10,560
Market on Sunday and Wednesday and
um parking other times. Yes, Council

1298
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:15,760
Murray,
>> I'm going to call a question.

1299
01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:21,639
» So as a reminder, the the item before
you is to approve this resolution 2615.

1300
01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:29,119
» Okay. Councelor uh uh any second.
>> We we've already had a motion in a

1301
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,800
second to approve this.
>> He called the question.

1302
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:33,040
» Yeah. So he called the question.
>> Okay. I guess it's a roll call vote

1303
01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:35,600
then.
>> Correct.

1304
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:41,040
» Councelor Mira.
>> So the way I'm reading this just for

1305
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:44,719
clarification is uh providing no parking
areas along the residential streets

1306
01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:47,600
» and that we have a call for the question
on that particular issue and that

1307
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:50,159
particular issue only. and we're going
to be

1308
01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:55,119
» so if what you're voting on is to
approve resolution 2615 which would

1309
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:59,760
publish and post the ordinance as
written for approval in July

1310
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:02,159
» or if we want to have a parking
discussion we would

1311
01:44:00,639 --> 01:44:06,320
» so if you want to have a discussion
>> vote no

1312
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:08,400
» you would vote yes no
>> vote no

1313
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,520
» councelor Knight
>> no

1314
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,560
» councelor Bquette
>> no

1315
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,320
» councelor Murray
>> no

1316
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:17,920
» the motion does not pass
um moving along

1317
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:22,560
Um
>> if if I may, mayor, does does anyone

1318
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:25,679
want to make a motion on what to do next
so that this because right now this has

1319
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:28,400
failed. It's gone.
>> We will not do any further work on it

1320
01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:32,159
without council's direction.
>> I move that we have a discussion about

1321
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:36,080
parking inside development plans of
village owned properties um at the next

1322
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:39,520
available meeting that we can possibly
get that on the schedule for.

1323
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:45,360
» I second.
>> Any discussion?

1324
01:44:42,719 --> 01:44:49,040
Uh, I'm going to for the discussion
phase, but I think we're there. Uh, we

1325
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:53,199
probably there about a year and a half
ago when I had a motion that we should

1326
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:56,000
get both of these properties. We should
see how they work together. And we

1327
01:44:54,480 --> 01:45:00,159
already voted yes on that one. It's been
a year and a half ago. But that's okay.

1328
01:44:57,679 --> 01:45:02,159
Time heals all. But this is what we're
doing and that's fine. So, it's fine

1329
01:45:01,679 --> 01:45:06,960
with me,
>> right? I mean, and the parking should

1330
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:12,639
include maybe the municipal parking lot.
Uh, you know, because we have parking

1331
01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:16,960
available there. Um
uh maybe it should include the Jones

1332
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:21,760
property. I don't know. But they're more
they're more lost than just the Anderson

1333
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:25,440
and and I brought it up is because I
think we had a motion that we already

1334
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:28,800
voted on motion I I made a long time ago
saying we should get these properties

1335
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:31,679
see how they work together with one
another and I don't think we're doing

1336
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:34,880
anything different on that motion. So
we're okay with that.

1337
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:38,320
» No, we're still working at that. Okay.
Um call the motion. Councelor Mirror,

1338
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:40,560
how do you vote?
>> Yes, sir. Councelor Wman.

1339
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,320
» Hi.
>> Councelor Knight. Hi. Councelor

1340
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:43,360
Berquette.
>> Hi.

1341
01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:45,760
» Councelor Murray.
>> Yes.

1342
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:51,280
» Motion carries to have a discussion at
the next meeting on parking issues in

1343
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:56,880
the village. Great.
New business discussion and uh of

1344
01:45:54,239 --> 01:46:02,400
process and possible action on the
vacancy of the district 4 council seat

1345
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:06,800
for unexpired term of office per statute
NMSA [clears throat]

1346
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:12,239
3-21-
uh one.

1347
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:19,440
Um, I do not have a nomination at this
time uh for the position. Um, and what

1348
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:25,119
I'd like to do is is it's been
recommended to open up the application

1349
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:31,920
process for another week and uh perhaps
have a nomination next meeting.

1350
01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:35,840
» We may have skipped an item on the uh
the power line crossing Corral Road.

1351
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,639
» Nope. That's the next one.
>> That's the next one.

1352
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:41,679
» I'm sorry. That That's the next item.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1353
01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:45,920
» Sorry.
>> You stole my house.

1354
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,920
» You're trying to trying to leave early.
>> Sharing.

1355
01:46:46,639 --> 01:46:49,760
» Sherry.
>> Sharing.

1356
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:53,920
» Sponsor Murray.
>> Well, I was under the impression that we

1357
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:57,199
were going to postpone this item to the
next meeting. Is that correct?

1358
01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:01,440
» Yes. Okay.
>> By by state statute, it has to appear on

1359
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:04,719
every agenda until we get a nomination.
>> This has to go up on agenda, though. and

1360
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:08,960
and mayor and members of council, just
for the the sake of keeping it a clean

1361
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:13,520
record, um my suggestion would be to
make a motion to table this until a date

1362
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:18,960
certain and list the next regular
agenda. Um as that date certain to have

1363
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:21,199
this reappear and we can again table if
necessary at that stage.

1364
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:25,520
» Table or post?
>> It's postponed. Table table is only in

1365
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:29,440
the same meeting. Postpone is moving it
to another meeting. I would move that we

1366
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:32,960
postpone this item to the next meeting,
June 23rd.

1367
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:36,400
» Any second on that? Second.
>> Any discussion?

1368
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,360
All in favor say I.
>> I.

1369
01:47:36,639 --> 01:47:43,040
» I.
>> Any oppose? Motion carries.

1370
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:46,800
Number two, consideration, action, and
appro

1371
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:52,639
What? Sorry.
Consideration action approval of

1372
01:47:49,199 --> 01:48:00,400
resolution 26-35 approval of an overhead
power line at 5311 Corales Road pursuant

1373
01:47:57,199 --> 01:48:06,560
to village code land use regulations
section 1830 Q4.

1374
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:09,199
Um may I have a motion to open this up
for discussion?

1375
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:14,159
» Move to approve.
>> Second. Second.

1376
01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:17,440
» Any discussion now? Uh councelor Murray.
>> Yeah, thank you. So, my only question

1377
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:22,719
is, and I was looking, I don't know if I
was looking at an old fixture uh along

1378
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:27,280
Carl's Road, but seems to me there is a
tree that is next to a utility pole

1379
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:32,560
right that at that corner of the
property. And if we're going to allow a

1380
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:36,880
power line go across, I want that tree
removed because uh it's going to

1381
01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:40,320
interfere with power with later down the
road.

1382
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:45,199
» Um my name is Esther Frederickson. I'm
um my partner Kenny Dilap and I were the

1383
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:48,800
builders. Um, so I put the I can answer
questions about the tree.

1384
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:54,080
» No, I'd like to see the tree removed
just basically.

1385
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:58,400
» Yeah. So, um I mean PNM um asked that we
trim the tree. Um so we were going to

1386
01:48:56,639 --> 01:49:00,400
trim the tree in order to
>> Is it an elm tree?

1387
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:05,760
» It is an elm tree.
>> Cut it down. [laughter]

1388
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:10,719
» I'm going to go with Evan Loack. She was
a proponent of removing every elm tree

1389
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:14,320
within the village mainly because they
suck water. But I would just I would

1390
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:18,239
just ask you to remove it.
>> Okay. I mean, I can talk to the land

1391
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:22,880
owner about that. Yeah.
>> I I do believe our fire chief would

1392
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:25,840
support that that motion.
>> Any other questions?

1393
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:31,119
» He'd be better off
>> that tree is going to be his property in

1394
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:33,679
another year. So,
>> any other question for any?

1395
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:37,840
» Yeah.
>> Yes. Hi, thanks for coming. Uh what is

1396
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:42,320
the timeline for construction?
>> Um so, we haven't submitted our permit

1397
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:45,760
yet. Obviously the step one was um
obtaining our driveway permit from NMDOT

1398
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:48,080
which we did.
>> Um

1399
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:53,600
» so they they allowed
>> I know that was a question before

1400
01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:57,920
» with with DOT about not alignment or
something of the driveway.

1401
01:49:55,040 --> 01:50:05,520
» Um so NM DOT allowed us to put the
driveway on the um north edge of the

1402
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:10,080
property and it kind of curves um south
a little bit. So they were fine with the

1403
01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:16,239
visibility for that. So yeah, we do have
a agenda DOT permit for that. Um, so

1404
01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:23,520
step two was getting power to the lot.
Um, there are power lines on the west

1405
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:31,280
side of her property. um along the MRGCD
MRGCD ditch. Um PNM didn't allow us to

1406
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:34,320
use those because um they want they want
the power to come from the front because

1407
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,600
they have a lot of confusion with
addresses when the power comes from

1408
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:43,280
different parts, you know, different
sides of the property. Um so the

1409
01:50:40,639 --> 01:50:48,320
transformer is on the opposite side of
Coralis Road from her property. So

1410
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:53,280
there's kind of no other way to access
power to her property. um also say there

1411
01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:59,199
used to be prior to her engaging with
us, there was an old um adobe house on

1412
01:50:56,480 --> 01:51:05,119
the property that was um had been
demolished. So I assume that that house

1413
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:08,639
had power at one point as well. Um but
yeah, but you're right, there is a tree

1414
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:12,159
at that corner. Um and there's also
there's currently a Quest um

1415
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:16,639
communication followed that
>> Murray. Uh so is the irrigation ditch is

1416
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:19,040
that being used or is that out of
service?

1417
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:24,560
» Um I believe it is being used.
>> Okay. Is the idea then to run power

1418
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:27,360
through another pole to the house or are
you going to run it underground?

1419
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:32,239
» It's going to be underground. So, we are
minimizing the overhead power line to

1420
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:36,239
the extent like really possible. We're
trying to just get it over Corales Road

1421
01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:40,080
and then at that point we're going 230
ft underground to the proposed.

1422
01:51:38,639 --> 01:51:43,599
» Are you going to be farming front part
of that or do they

1423
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:48,000
» uh the it's it's zoned agriculture. I
assume the homeowner is going to be I

1424
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:50,719
mean she has access to the irrigation
ditch and I think she intends to be

1425
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:54,400
farming it but
>> well how I'm I'm curious about how deep

1426
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:59,440
you plan on putting the rest of the
power underground because uh is there a

1427
01:51:57,119 --> 01:52:03,119
possibility that if you're farming
you're going to dig up at or expose that

1428
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:10,000
power line?
>> No, I don't. No. And we're running um

1429
01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:13,040
along the ascia there. So I don't I mean
that's not a place that you would be

1430
01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:14,639
tilling. Is that a That's not lined, is
it?

1431
01:52:13,599 --> 01:52:20,800
» It's not lined.
>> Okay. So, it could be subject to water.

1432
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:26,400
» I mean, it's going to um I mean, I can
get back to you on that on on the depth

1433
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:32,159
for for our um electrical line, but we
are obviously, you know, going to be put

1434
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:36,320
we don't want to see that electrical
line get messed up. Well, I understand

1435
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:41,679
that's that's just the concern that if
you're using the irrigation ditch, the

1436
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:45,360
saturation of the water exposing into
the cable or the cable detering because

1437
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,280
of the exposure to the water. So, I'm
just

1438
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:48,880
» No, I don't I don't see that being an
issue.

1439
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:53,360
» Okay.
>> And it should be a direct I mean, it's a

1440
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:56,400
direct buried cable. So,
>> Burket.

1441
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:59,679
» Uh, thank you, mayor. Um, so this is I
guess not specific to your application,

1442
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:03,520
but just a thought. I mean, it seems
like the only reason we're having to do

1443
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:06,719
any section of overhead line is because
P&M is saying that it's difficult for

1444
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:11,440
them to figure out someone's address if
the line runs east to west instead of

1445
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:15,119
west to east. Um, it seems like you guys
are doing everything possible to Yeah.

1446
01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:19,119
» bury as much as you can,
>> right? And and that's not quite correct

1447
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:22,719
because the the the line on the west
side um would have to cross the MRGCD

1448
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,199
ditch.
>> Okay. So,

1449
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:26,159
» so both would have to be above ground at
some point.

1450
01:53:25,679 --> 01:53:29,679
» Yes.
>> Okay. But I I I just think for something

1451
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:34,960
just food for thought for our franchise
agreement with P&M, we need to discuss

1452
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:38,639
with them that their ease of identifying
addresses is not justification for them

1453
01:53:36,719 --> 01:53:43,440
to ask people to put stuff over Carales
Road. Um because we make everyone jump

1454
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:48,000
through all these hoops to do a small
section of overhead line. And a big

1455
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:51,280
reason we're doing it is just for
convenience of something that's very

1456
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:55,199
simple to do that P&M says they don't
want to do. You would have to say that

1457
01:53:53,199 --> 01:54:01,760
when we were going to bring you the P&M
franchise as a as negotiated over the

1458
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:06,239
last year and a half, I think at the
next meeting. [laughter]

1459
01:54:04,639 --> 01:54:10,000
» Good point, though. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I know we we've we've actually um

1460
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:15,119
the the fire chief and I have gone back
and forth with PNM on and our attorneys

1461
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:19,599
on, you know, things like the the trees
and um undergrounding and you know, I I

1462
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,719
think we've we've reached a point where
we've we've squeezed everything out of

1463
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:27,199
them that we can possibly get. But yeah,
we will have a new franchise agreement

1464
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:31,360
for you um at the next meeting. But it
it is very frustrating on our end too

1465
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:37,280
because you know we would like them to
meet certain conditions and yeah I mean

1466
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:41,920
it it does seem like it it should be a
no-brainer that they could figure out

1467
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:49,679
where where the line is coming from. But
>> and an issue I think is that PNM charges

1468
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:55,599
a fairly high amount to run the line
underground whereas to run it overland

1469
01:54:53,119 --> 01:55:01,040
is a lot less expensive. And so, you
know, we're probably probably going to

1470
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:08,000
be seeing more overhead line requests
come in um uh because people feel they

1471
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:11,119
can't afford to go underground.
>> Well, and in this case too, you you

1472
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:14,880
would have to go under Corales Road,
which would then involve DOT for a

1473
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:19,119
permit to go under the road.
>> Easy to work with.

1474
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:23,520
» Yeah. Our DNM is going to involve NMDOT
to go over the road as well. So, and

1475
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:29,199
they and B&M is sort of waiting for the
outcome of of this variance in order to

1476
01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:31,280
start that process.
>> Sir,

1477
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:35,280
» well, that brings up the question too
because

1478
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:38,800
if there's I mean, yes, X number of
dollars to go under the road, but what

1479
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:42,800
is the cost to P&M if they have to come
out and service that because of a storm,

1480
01:55:40,719 --> 01:55:47,280
the line goes down, they have to bring
contractors in, and then what's the

1481
01:55:45,199 --> 01:55:51,440
repair? You know, eventually it adds up
over the years when it might have been

1482
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:55,520
simpler just to put it under the ground.
Even though the cost may be I don't know

1483
01:55:53,599 --> 01:56:03,280
what it is. I mean, is it two times
>> $7,000 to go to $7,000 to go

1484
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:07,199
» the the $10,000 that I mean it's sort of
a um they haven't given us a firm number

1485
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:12,080
yet.
>> It seems like to me to bring out a

1486
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:16,880
contractor if there's a storm and a pole
goes down or the lines come down over

1487
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:21,119
Cross Road. What's the cost? It's
probably negligible. I mean, it's it's

1488
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:24,639
it's probably somewhere there's going to
be a your return on investment is going

1489
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:28,480
to be exceeding what it could have been
if it had been under ground.

1490
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:34,239
» PNM will do it. The thing is that the
P&M charges the resident for it. And the

1491
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:38,880
resident says, "Hey, you know, it's a
lot less expensive going."

1492
01:56:36,639 --> 01:56:43,360
» Well, I understand, but it's
>> overground than under.

1493
01:56:40,719 --> 01:56:50,000
» I'll I'll give you an example on my
property. Our line runs across GR Road

1494
01:56:46,639 --> 01:56:55,920
down several houses to a property. Then
it goes underground to my place.

1495
01:56:52,960 --> 01:57:01,440
I've watched the transformer on Crossro
Road burn because it's on the pole and

1496
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:06,400
something happened and you know it just
disintegrate. But it takes out half a

1497
01:57:03,599 --> 01:57:09,280
dozen of us that are on that on that
line. So anyway, that's just that's just

1498
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:12,960
an example.
>> So the so the transformer itself is on

1499
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:16,000
the east side of Corales Road. So we're
asking to put a customer owned pole. So

1500
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:19,199
there would be a service drop.
>> Um so the transformer is already there.

1501
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:26,719
We're not putting in a new
>> Well, it just it just

1502
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:32,159
Okay. Um
getting personal. I think 20 years ago

1503
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:38,880
B&M charged us $15,000
to run line underground for us.

1504
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:41,840
And that was 20 years ago.
and we paid it just we felt that you

1505
01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:45,280
know we'd rather have a light
underground for many reasons but we had

1506
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,360
to
>> either have you

1507
01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:49,840
» pardon me
>> you haven't had a problem with the

1508
01:57:48,639 --> 01:57:55,840
underground service
>> no

1509
01:57:52,320 --> 01:58:00,119
» any other questions for
>> fire chief has a question

1510
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,119
» fire chief

1511
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:12,639
» council um I believe you've heard my
testimony before. We're not I'm not in

1512
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:18,159
support of any more above ground
utilities. Uh we get calls. Uh just this

1513
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:24,000
last week, we've had multiple trees
down, some of them involving either low

1514
01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:29,119
voltage lines, delay in response.
Uh two weeks ago, we had a cottonwood

1515
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:34,000
tree come off um on a private property,
fall down, pulled the overhead power

1516
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:40,239
line to the service head off the house,
shorted out. um kind of smoldering in

1517
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:46,000
the box and luckily the the house didn't
burn down. Um so

1518
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:50,000
hearing that they're doing everything
they possibly can to make it safer in a

1519
01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:53,280
customer-owned pole. Counselor, thank
you for suggesting that the tree be

1520
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:57,599
removed. Ultimately, this is your
decision. This is their right to appeal.

1521
01:58:55,679 --> 01:59:01,679
Uh but I think we could do better by
making sure that even if it is a

1522
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:08,000
customer-owned pole and the utility is
going to be overhead that the owner of

1523
01:59:04,719 --> 01:59:12,080
the property or if the property sells
that it's you know that they have to

1524
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:15,760
maintain a clear area around that
service and not plant trees underneath

1525
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:20,480
the power lines because they're just
continuous you know it's a continual

1526
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:24,159
problem in the village. So thank you.
And the problem there is, you know, how

1527
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:28,719
do you maintain that? You know, that's
not a village easement and they're not

1528
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:35,920
going to give us that land. And if the
owner decides to plant a cottonwood tree

1529
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:39,679
under it, uh what recourse do we have?
Correct, mayor. Uh you're absolutely

1530
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:45,199
right. Right. I mean, I I don't know how
we can enforce it other than uh doing

1531
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:49,760
our due diligence, PSAs, advising
homeowners to if they have trees on

1532
01:59:47,679 --> 01:59:53,199
their private property that enforce, you
know, reminding them it's their

1533
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:58,400
responsibility. My understanding, I
could be wrong, but when PNM

1534
01:59:56,159 --> 02:00:04,560
takes that their triplex or whatever
service line from their pole to a

1535
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:09,280
customerowned pole or to the house of
residence, that is the responsibility of

1536
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:14,880
that homeowner. And a lot of homeowners
don't understand that. And um I I I just

1537
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:19,520
think, you know, we could do a better
part in trying to educate them that if

1538
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:26,719
they do have trees that they're trimmed
regularly. and uh maintained.

1539
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:29,760
» Thank you,
councelor Murray.

1540
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:34,719
» Uh so this is a question for Lori. Then
when the Lori when they bring you the

1541
02:00:32,159 --> 02:00:39,920
plans for your house, is there a way we
can stipulate that any uh power being

1542
02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:45,199
brought into that property that it
remained free of vegetation?

1543
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:49,840
» We can give them a document to that
effect. We already give them the dark

1544
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:55,679
skies ordinance and uh we ask for
certified asbuilts for their grading and

1545
02:00:51,840 --> 02:01:00,639
drainage. But but um like some folks
have suggested it's hard people still do

1546
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:04,480
what they're going to do and then trees
grow. We we can certainly do that. We we

1547
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:09,520
can tell them to
>> and don't they have to have a when

1548
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:13,440
another if the property train changes
hands, don't they have to have a survey

1549
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:17,440
done and they have to have certain
stipulations on it? uh that's up to the

1550
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:20,800
title company. Sometimes they just buy a
property and okay

1551
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:26,159
» uh you know we're we're talking most of
these are some type of new construction

1552
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:31,520
and then once it's there it's there once
the overhead is there it's there um and

1553
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:36,719
properties change hands people plant
trees and it becomes more difficult to

1554
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:40,400
to keep an eye on that. Is that an
ordinance that we need or I'm just uh

1555
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:42,719
kind of throwing this out to see where
it sticks?

1556
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:45,280
» And mayor and members of council, it
reminds me of something that you had

1557
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:49,520
said prior to this meeting, which is
that the enforcement portion of the code

1558
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:54,480
is kind of an area that I think really
bears looking at. Um and I think sort of

1559
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:57,760
in tandem I'm looking at um 1830 that
subsection Q that talks about these

1560
02:01:56,719 --> 02:02:02,159
communication and electrical
distribution lines. Um, and it really

1561
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:06,719
doesn't address in a meaningful way
anything to do with vegetation and

1562
02:02:04,159 --> 02:02:11,199
obstruction of the lines. Um, you know,
there are a lot of things that are sort

1563
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:14,800
of notably absent from this in terms of
if we wanted to be able to, you know,

1564
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:18,560
look out over somebody's property and
see that there's a tree back there. Um,

1565
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:21,119
you know, there's really no mechanism at
this stage other than saying, "Hey, we

1566
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:24,239
see that that tree is awfully close to
your power line. You might want to

1567
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:28,400
reconsider that." Um, and that's kind of
where we're limited. Um so it may be

1568
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:31,920
worth taking a look at that code in in
tandem with taking a look at enforcement

1569
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:36,159
provisions and seeing you know is this
something I mean obviously one of the

1570
02:02:33,199 --> 02:02:40,480
reasons that this is here is that um the
biggest concern is public safety uh and

1571
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:44,320
if there is a meaningful way to get
underground access u because it would be

1572
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:47,920
a better benefit to public safety. I
mean I think we just heard Chief tell us

1573
02:02:45,599 --> 02:02:50,800
that. Um,
so I I mean it may not be strictly

1574
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:54,239
necessary except for those lots where
they already have overhead lines sort of

1575
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:58,159
running through them, running near them,
adjacent to those lot lines, you know,

1576
02:02:55,679 --> 02:03:01,760
where you might be considering
granting this sort of with conditions,

1577
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:06,599
right? There's no ability to give
conditions at this stage the way it's

1578
02:03:03,599 --> 02:03:06,599
written.

1579
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:15,280
» Uh, councelor Wman.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, Chief,

1580
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:20,080
is that a possibility that you could
think about working on an ordinance that

1581
02:03:18,239 --> 02:03:24,800
would help you in terms of vegetation
under power lines going forward?

1582
02:03:22,719 --> 02:03:27,360
» Absolutely, Mayor Counselor. Uh,
>> there there must be model legislation

1583
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:31,119
out there somewhere.
>> Yeah. And I I've done some research and

1584
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:35,199
looking at some of the uh different
ordinances and regulations and you know

1585
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:39,679
some enforcements uh starting in
California because you know some of the

1586
02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:44,159
wildfires have been caused and uh some
are under investigation for you know

1587
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:48,960
utility lines or some sort of power line
and so uh I'd be happy to take on that

1588
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:54,000
task. Uh, I'd like to work, you know,
with our code enforcement, planning and

1589
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:57,520
zoning, and also, you know, maybe we can
parallel

1590
02:03:55,520 --> 02:04:01,840
um the P&M's, you know, vegetation
management so we can help each other.

1591
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:06,000
So, when they're coming through and
cleaning up their power lines or

1592
02:04:03,679 --> 02:04:10,960
distribution lines, we're also doing our
enforcement at, you know, on the ground,

1593
02:04:09,199 --> 02:04:14,880
educating the public and trying to come
up with some of the rules to help us

1594
02:04:13,199 --> 02:04:18,960
make our community safer. you know, some
of the major fires in New Mexico have

1595
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:24,239
been power lines going through national
forest and that that the cleared area

1596
02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:27,599
wasn't wide enough so that was when
there was a problem sparking whatever it

1597
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:31,280
was, it touched off these major
wildfires.

1598
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:36,320
» So using that as somewhat of a model and
some of the California experiences.

1599
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:39,679
» Yeah. and mayor counselor um planning
and zoning and I we we've had this

1600
02:04:38,159 --> 02:04:44,320
discussion and and they're doing their
part when they have a new site plan or a

1601
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:49,360
plat coming before that you know
vegetation uh landscape requirements and

1602
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:53,440
stuff that's great if you have a certain
amount of trees or shrubs you have to

1603
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:55,599
put on your property just don't put them
in roads and don't put them underneath

1604
02:04:55,040 --> 02:05:00,400
power and
>> make sure they're not elm trees

1605
02:04:58,639 --> 02:05:06,560
» so thank you Murray
>> I would move that we amend the uh motion

1606
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:14,360
to uh require the removal of the on tree
at that corner of the property.

1607
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:14,360
» Any second to that?

1608
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:20,480
» I'll second that. Any more discussion on
that?

1609
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:24,159
» Well, one, I think the tree needs to be
removed mainly because it's going to

1610
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:29,119
interfere with the power lines sooner or
later. And two, it sucks water like

1611
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:32,719
crazy. I mean, it's an elm tree and so I
think we'd be better off if we just had

1612
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:37,040
it removed. That eliminates the issue of
the power lines being interfered later

1613
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:42,400
in life.
>> Any more discussion on that?

1614
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:45,040
» I mean, Council Briquette and Council
Knight,

1615
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:49,040
» my agreement is in sheer deference to
the chief's vastly superior knowledge to

1616
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:55,199
me of the fire danger of uh of these
trees and lines. And so, um, his

1617
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:58,159
concern, uh, becomes my concern.
>> Knight.

1618
02:05:55,840 --> 02:06:01,760
» Yeah. I just wanted to ask, do you think
there's going to be a problem with the

1619
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:04,719
homeowner about removing this tree? I
mean, is it like give a lot of shade to

1620
02:06:03,679 --> 02:06:07,199
the house or
>> No, it's not it's not a nice tree

1621
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:10,400
nowhere.
>> Yeah, it's it's not a nice tree. It's

1622
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:14,960
just the cost of having to remove it.
Um, you know, so that but if that's a

1623
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:19,040
condition of your approval, then we'll
just tell her and that if she wants

1624
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:24,239
power, that's what she's going to have
to do. [clears throat]

1625
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:30,239
» Any more discussion?
All in favor say I.

1626
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:33,360
» Any oppose? Motion carries.
>> Thank you.

1627
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:37,360
» Thanks.
>> That that was resolution.

1628
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:41,920
» Well, that that was that was just um a
vote to approve the amendment. Now you

1629
02:06:39,679 --> 02:06:46,159
need to go back and vote on the original
motion with a Yes. With a roll call

1630
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:50,320
vote. Okay.
>> So, you're you're um you're voting on

1631
02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:54,639
approval of the line with the
stipulation that they remove the tree,

1632
02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:58,159
right? Council me, how do you vote?
>> Councelor Waldman. Hi. Councelor Knight.

1633
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:59,199
Hi. Councelor Bquette. Hi. Councelor
Murray.

1634
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:04,960
» Yes.
>> Motion carries. I'd like to take a

1635
02:07:01,199 --> 02:07:10,560
moment to uh thank uh Representative
Casease for attending our meetings. Is

1636
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:16,719
there another uh candidate in in the
room right now? Anyway, we appreciate

1637
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:23,920
you coming and attending and being aware
of the thorny issues in Coral sometimes

1638
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:27,268
and
talk about [laughter]

1639
02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:39,280
» Oh, thank you very much for coming being
concerned and aware. Um, next item, uh,

1640
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:44,079
consideration, action, approval of
resolution 26-35,

1641
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:50,480
approval of an overhead power line at
5311 Corales Road pursuant to village

1642
02:07:47,599 --> 02:07:55,280
code land use regulation section. Next
item, that's we just approved that one.

1643
02:07:53,199 --> 02:08:00,960
Number three, consideration action
approval of resolution 26 uh-36,

1644
02:07:59,119 --> 02:08:07,679
approval of an overhead power line at
lot B, Targeta Lane, pursuant to village

1645
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:12,800
code land use regulation section 18-30
Q4. May I have a motion to open this up?

1646
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:16,320
» Motion to approve.
>> Second.

1647
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:21,760
» Any discussion?
>> Council would is somebody here from that

1648
02:08:19,599 --> 02:08:25,520
land that property
>> mayor? I believe those are two

1649
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:30,960
contiguous lots. A and B are part of
what we just voted on previously. It's

1650
02:08:28,079 --> 02:08:34,239
the same address. She she just left.
>> Oh, okay.

1651
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:39,679
» Lori, are are do you are you aware of
that being the case?

1652
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:42,000
» It's a separate property, separate
residence.

1653
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:46,400
» Yeah.
>> The the one that you just voted on is

1654
02:08:43,679 --> 02:08:50,880
5311 Carles Road. It's on the the west
side of Carales Road. This is farther

1655
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:56,000
north heading east off Targetta Lane.
So, and Lori, correct me if I'm wrong.

1656
02:08:53,840 --> 02:09:00,719
This one is literally just P&M refusing
to let them connect to their pool.

1657
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:04,960
» Correct. That that is their new stance
that they won't let anyone connect to

1658
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:08,719
their fancy power lines that bring power
to people, but we can't touch the fancy

1659
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:12,719
power lines that bring the power to the
people. We have to make another power

1660
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:16,560
line that gets the power line from the
one we can't touch to the one we can

1661
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:20,079
touch. Correct. And bury it. Communities
like Rio Rancho that are very strict

1662
02:09:18,239 --> 02:09:24,719
with overhead or I'm sorry with
underground there. There's a a P&M has

1663
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:27,440
come up with something. It's a riser and
I'm trying to figure out how tall it is.

1664
02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:30,960
It's not certainly not as tall as a
telephone pole. It's some kind of a

1665
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:34,639
metal thing and so the power comes off
of the pole, connects to that little

1666
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:38,079
riser and then goes underground from
there. So that's what undergrounding

1667
02:09:36,639 --> 02:09:41,760
communities are doing. And it's my
understanding that this

1668
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:46,320
» is that in our franchise agreement.
>> I will have to go double check. I have

1669
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:50,560
the diagram. Administrator,
>> it does say in keeping with the

1670
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:54,560
ordinance.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The the franchise agreement

1671
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:59,280
with P&M does say they have to abide by
all of our ordinances. So, whatever and

1672
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:03,360
we aren't specific about, you know, you
have to follow 18 because the things can

1673
02:10:01,599 --> 02:10:06,719
change. So, it just says they will abide
by all the village ordinances. So,

1674
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:11,520
interesting.
>> Murray. Well, um I guess the question is

1675
02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:17,920
bringing the power across uh from
Targetta to lot B. Uh did they have to

1676
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:24,239
get an easement from the uh owner of lot
A?

1677
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:28,000
» I don't know land owner here at all or
>> because they're

1678
02:10:27,119 --> 02:10:30,880
okay.
>> Or they're

1679
02:10:30,239 --> 02:10:34,960
representative
>> both and it kind of makes it a moot

1680
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:38,719
point that
>> you can't build a house. separate houses

1681
02:10:37,679 --> 02:10:43,360
here.
>> Chief, would you like to say something?

1682
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:48,079
» What are they doing? Yeah.
>> Mayor, council, uh, thank you. I don't

1683
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:52,880
want to repeat what I said earlier. I
think I got my point across. Um, my my

1684
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:57,800
concern on this one was looking at the
diagram.

1685
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:57,800
Um,

1686
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:04,400
and I understand that the power is there
on Taretta. just lost my page, but it

1687
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:11,520
looks like they're trying to put the
pole right in the middle of lot B.

1688
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:17,440
And I maybe Lori can clarify, but my
suggestion or um would be that the pole

1689
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:23,440
stay
if P&M doesn't allow a an underground

1690
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:28,880
conduit to be attached to their pole
that a new owner pole be put where the

1691
02:11:26,159 --> 02:11:35,440
existing poles are on along that line of
Taretta with underground service

1692
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:39,440
underneath Targetta Lane to lot B.
Does that make sense?

1693
02:11:37,679 --> 02:11:43,440
Will that work if they don't own both
lots? I I I don't know. I mean, if they

1694
02:11:41,119 --> 02:11:47,040
own both lots, that works, but can they
force another pull on someone else's lot

1695
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:52,159
» that that Yeah. So, I have some
questions just based on the diagram that

1696
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:57,280
I see. Or it might require
>> trenching down Taretta Lane if they have

1697
02:11:54,239 --> 02:12:00,639
rights to that for access and utility
easement because they have a utility

1698
02:11:58,639 --> 02:12:05,199
easement obviously. The power poles are
going on the north side of Targetta.

1699
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:08,560
This one may need to get postponed until
we can ask some questions.

1700
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:13,599
» Yeah.
I mean, Councelor Wilman,

1701
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:18,880
» Mayor, can I can I ask Lori? Um, I pass
that that property every day. Uh, it

1702
02:12:16,159 --> 02:12:22,800
seems to me that are you suggesting that
these are two separate own perhaps not

1703
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:25,520
owners, but two separate lots. So,
there'll be two separate houses

1704
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:29,199
potentially
>> on Tetta. Correct. I mean, it's being

1705
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:32,159
farmed now. There's a lot A and there's
a lot B,

1706
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:35,520
» right? How how large are each of the
lots? Do you know?

1707
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:39,199
» Gosh, I did look it up. Let me see if I
can eyeball it. Um,

1708
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:43,360
» pretty equal.
>> Well, I'm gonna say they're about an

1709
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:47,679
acre each. Uh the I I looked up the
plat. There was an amended plat that

1710
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:51,599
wasn't that long ago, so I I can
reasonably assume they're about an acre

1711
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:55,440
each.
>> Legally platted lots that could be in

1712
02:12:53,520 --> 02:13:00,320
the future. There's farming occurring
now, but they could contain houses. So,

1713
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:07,199
if I'm looking at this picture
that we have in the packet, there's

1714
02:13:02,079 --> 02:13:12,159
target Lane to the south and then lot A,
>> lot B, right?

1715
02:13:09,679 --> 02:13:19,119
» And then and then there's an open space
just below the the line.

1716
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:23,440
» Is that is so is the land
below that line where where the outline

1717
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:28,960
is for lots A and B, is that part of it
as well? because I don't think I don't

1718
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:33,760
think they're an acre each A and B.
>> I'm pretty sure they are. It's very hard

1719
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:39,280
to see, but there is they're rectangular
lots and to the south of lot A and lot

1720
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:46,079
B, it looks like there's another road,
but what that is is the indigenous farm

1721
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:49,599
hub, I believe, and a separate property.
>> So, where you where you see what looks

1722
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:54,639
like a road to the south of lot A and
lot B is simply just their farming

1723
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:58,000
access on another property. seems to me
that there, you know, questions about

1724
02:13:56,239 --> 02:14:02,159
this and without the property owner
here, I mean, you know, are we going to

1725
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:09,280
make conditions that the property owner
has to abide by without the property

1726
02:14:05,199 --> 02:14:14,320
owner having discussion and input? Uh, I
I just wonder whether that person or a

1727
02:14:12,079 --> 02:14:19,440
representative like in the previous item
>> and this does say that the power is for

1728
02:14:16,719 --> 02:14:23,920
farming activities, not a home. I don't
know if that makes a difference.

1729
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:30,079
» Is the is the uh owner
you proposed a power pole that the owner

1730
02:14:26,639 --> 02:14:34,239
is going to install for lot B and that's
where the house is going to be.

1731
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:38,719
» It right now the pole is going to be
adjacent to a shed that they're using in

1732
02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:44,079
their farming activities.
>> That's where in lot B in lot maybe this

1733
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:46,400
is not for a house is just for maybe a
pump

1734
02:14:44,719 --> 02:14:49,920
» at this point in time. Yes, it it it
does say in the the letter from the

1735
02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:53,760
property owner, the purpose of the propo
proposed new service is to provide power

1736
02:14:52,079 --> 02:14:56,000
to farming activities that are occurring
on site.

1737
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:59,360
» Does it doesn't mean that they couldn't
build a house down the road, but yeah,

1738
02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:01,440
» it's got plans to build a house there.
>> Yeah.

1739
02:15:00,639 --> 02:15:08,639
» Councelor Murray.
>> So, mayor, I would uh I will withdraw my

1740
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:12,480
motion and ask that uh we postpone this
item to the next uh available council

1741
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:17,040
meeting.
>> I'll second that. Any discussion on

1742
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:21,119
that?
Uh, does this need

1743
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:24,400
just a goof?
>> Yeah, you can. Yeah,

1744
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:25,040
» it's not a res. All in favor, please say
I.

1745
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:27,119
» I.
>> I.

1746
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:30,320
» Any oppose?
>> Motion carries to postpone till the next

1747
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:33,040
meeting.
>> We Well, actually, we'll work with the

1748
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:35,920
property owner to make sure they can
attend the next meeting. And if not,

1749
02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:39,040
we'll move it to the next meeting that
the property owner is available to

1750
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:42,320
attend so that we can make sure that we
don't run into this issue again. and

1751
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:45,280
mayor and members of council just for
the sake of the record. So I did look it

1752
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:50,320
up on the assessor's website. So this
property owner owns lot C and lot B. Um

1753
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:53,520
so lot A is not part of the equation as
far as I can tell. So his power line is

1754
02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:56,239
sort of already
>> um would be crossing over a different

1755
02:15:55,040 --> 02:16:01,199
property owner's property.
>> So they need they need an easement of

1756
02:15:58,159 --> 02:16:04,800
some kind I would presume. We'll see.
>> But I guess that we can ask that when

1757
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:11,199
» it may pre-exist. It would be entirely
dependent on what that survey and plat

1758
02:16:06,719 --> 02:16:16,239
said you know when it was created. Okay.
Okie do. Uh, last item in new business.

1759
02:16:14,239 --> 02:16:24,719
Um, item four, consideration action
approval of resolution 26-37

1760
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:29,840
adopting the 2028 to 2032
infrastructure capital improvement plan

1761
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:32,240
ICIP. May I have a motion to open this?
>> Move to approve.

1762
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:38,280
» Second.
>> Um, we have a motion to second. Any

1763
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,280
discussion?

1764
02:16:42,639 --> 02:16:46,960
That's unusual.
>> Take that roll call vote now.

1765
02:16:46,559 --> 02:16:51,884
» Fast.
>> Are you here to check on your money?

1766
02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:51,884
Good for you. [laughter]

1767
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:59,840
» And we we do have the option of um if we
want to adjust the um so we have to get

1768
02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:04,240
this list into the state before July 1
and then they then they close the the

1769
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:09,120
portal. We can't make any changes to it.
However, before everything reopens for

1770
02:17:06,559 --> 02:17:12,559
the capital outlay process, they will
reopen the portal for a short period of

1771
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:17,200
time if we want to restructure any of
our rankings as we get closer to that

1772
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:21,840
time of requesting capital outlay. So,
just just so you know, these these

1773
02:17:18,559 --> 02:17:25,760
rankings do get locked in after July 1,
but we do have the option to change them

1774
02:17:23,439 --> 02:17:31,599
before we go to our our great
legislators for for funding. And thanks

1775
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:34,240
to Melanie for re surveying us because
there was some confusion last time with

1776
02:17:33,439 --> 02:17:38,000
how we ranked.
>> Thank you all to all the counselors for

1777
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:43,280
for re-ranking them.
>> Right. So on that uh Mr. Mayor, uh

1778
02:17:41,439 --> 02:17:45,439
municipal parking facilities means just
what we were talking about earlier that

1779
02:17:44,559 --> 02:17:50,080
we have to wait.
>> No, the municipal parking facilities is

1780
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:53,920
was um specifically for the admin
complex, not all the other. Yeah,

1781
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:58,000
because that that was that was already
>> but we still have to wait till till 1 on

1782
02:17:57,280 --> 02:18:00,880
this one. Okay.
>> Yeah.

1783
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:07,359
» Gotcha.
>> Any other discussion?

1784
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:10,319
» Okay. Um let's take a vote this
resolution. So councelor Mariotti vote.

1785
02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:12,000
» Yes.
>> Councelor Bquette.

1786
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:14,880
» Yes. Councelor
>> Knight. Councelor Wman. Hi. Councelor

1787
02:18:14,399 --> 02:18:19,359
» Mera.
>> Yes sir. Um

1788
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:24,240
» next item announcements. Uh future
agenda items.

1789
02:18:20,399 --> 02:18:24,240
» Thank you. Number [laughter]

1790
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:32,880
one, uniform traffic ordinance first
reading next meeting on the 23rd of

1791
02:18:29,519 --> 02:18:38,399
June. Uh number two, possible fireworks
ban renewal next meeting. Uh number

1792
02:18:35,679 --> 02:18:44,880
three, 40-year water plan update July
16th. And number four, draft noise

1793
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:49,280
ordinance discussion to be announced. Uh
any other changes or

1794
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:55,599
» just the parking conversation? Y
>> and parking conversation next meeting.

1795
02:18:52,719 --> 02:19:00,479
» Okay. Um we've done all our agenda
items. So

1796
02:18:57,040 --> 02:19:05,359
» could I where we are on the uh your
discussions with NM DOT?

1797
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:09,040
» It was supposed to be the end of
>> next month.

1798
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:11,679
» So the um our our next meeting is next
Thursday.

1799
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:15,280
» Okay.
>> At at 10 a.m. and then and then we go

1800
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:17,679
back to every other month. And that's
going to have to do with uh stop signs

1801
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:21,840
and
>> it'll it'll be ev everything. And I I

1802
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:27,760
was um going to see if we could add to
the agenda um just a brief discussion

1803
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:31,280
about the um driveway permits because it
it has been an issue getting those

1804
02:19:29,439 --> 02:19:35,920
approved with NMDOT.
>> You know, I noticed the other day that

1805
02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:42,559
the new complex going up at Perea Road
um has a long driveway off of Corell's

1806
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:46,080
Road. Is that up for discussion or is
that built in to the I mean what's going

1807
02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:51,040
to happen with that?
>> So the anytime a property owner brings a

1808
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:54,960
a new plat they have to get a drive so
driveway permits do not go with the land

1809
02:19:52,880 --> 02:19:59,200
they go with the owner. So every time a
a property changes hands along Crowis

1810
02:19:57,359 --> 02:20:03,600
Road that new owner has to go and apply
for a new driveway permit

1811
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:07,120
» through NMD through NM DOT and they
don't they don't make that clear to

1812
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:10,640
people. I think I I would assume if I
bought a property and and I have access

1813
02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:15,439
off of Carl's Road, I would just assume
that it's been allowed. I wouldn't know

1814
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:19,040
that I had to go and get a new driveway
permit to continue using that access

1815
02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:22,399
point.
>> Councelor Murray.

1816
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:26,720
» Uh thank you. So for Pere Road, can we
put some commas in there so it's

1817
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:30,880
$700,000, not $7 million?
>> Yes.

1818
02:20:27,359 --> 02:20:35,439
» Okay. Thanks. [laughter] And also,
uh for the DOT discussion, let's get the

1819
02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:39,760
crosswalks back on discussion. Yeah. So,
the the crosswalks um those are on hold

1820
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:44,240
until after this the safety study. So,
the studies won't be um we won't have

1821
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:47,840
results until early fall. So, the only
thing we're going to get from DOT at

1822
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:52,640
this next meeting is the contractor is
working on on everything. We'll get

1823
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:55,040
results to you in you know late August,
early September.

1824
02:20:53,359 --> 02:20:57,920
» How about the pathway from the Monasuri
school?

1825
02:20:55,520 --> 02:21:01,120
» Again, everything there. Well, with the
the pathway, it's it's on the it should

1826
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:04,720
be on the agenda. They said anything
that has been a rolling item on the

1827
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:09,680
agenda, which that is one of them. And
they're they're waiting on the um

1828
02:21:07,439 --> 02:21:16,399
figuring out what the right of ways are.
So, I actually um I I did get a little

1829
02:21:12,319 --> 02:21:19,200
bit passive aggressive um with DOT. Um
we were having a discussion about

1830
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:22,640
cutting down the trees on the north end
and they had informed us that the

1831
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:27,760
village must pay for that. And I said,
"But that's your right of way, so

1832
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:30,479
shouldn't you pay for it?" And then yes.
Well, and then they said, "Well, I don't

1833
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:35,040
have the the right-of-way documents."
And I said, "Well, I do. Here you go."

1834
02:21:32,479 --> 02:21:38,000
And I emailed it to them. So,
>> that's that Margaret lady, right?

1835
02:21:36,479 --> 02:21:41,040
» Yes. Well, no, no, this was this was
Greg, the the head the head um

1836
02:21:40,399 --> 02:21:45,040
» Yeah.
>> So, yeah, I did I did get a little pushy

1837
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:49,359
and said, you know, please review this
and please check the the pathway along

1838
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:51,760
there and then the north end of town.
>> You never heard from

1839
02:21:50,479 --> 02:21:55,439
» I've not heard from I have not heard
from them yet. Yeah.

1840
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:59,439
The other question I have is with the
trees at north end, are they uh

1841
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:02,640
historical trees that have been approved
by the tree committee?

1842
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:06,000
» I don't believe so. I will double check
the list, the landmark trees list, but

1843
02:22:04,319 --> 02:22:09,920
no, they're elm trees. So, I don't think
that they would they would be. Yeah. No.

1844
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:13,600
And and that's what th those those trees
have already been evaluated by an

1845
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:15,760
arborist and and they confirmed that
they are diseased and they need to come

1846
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:18,560
down. So
>> very good.

1847
02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:22,399
» Even if they were landmark trees, that's
the process to remove a landmark tree is

1848
02:22:20,399 --> 02:22:26,479
to get it um certified by an arborist
that there is a legitimate safety reason

1849
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:29,280
and having a diseased tree is a
legitimate safety reason. So we're

1850
02:22:28,399 --> 02:22:33,200
covered either way.
>> Thank you for all the work. I I noticed

1851
02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:36,720
twice you had to put those polls back up
that have the that have the signs. I

1852
02:22:35,359 --> 02:22:40,800
mean that just proves the point that
they made earlier. They had to put up

1853
02:22:38,319 --> 02:22:45,680
those what twice already, right? They
they keep knocking down those signs.

1854
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:49,600
» Amazing. Anyway, thank you very much,
council, for this is our fifth

1855
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:53,439
consecutive uh Tuesday meeting. I think
>> it is. It is. We actually get a little

1856
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:57,760
break next week, so we won't we won't
see you for two whole weeks.

1857
02:22:55,520 --> 02:23:00,399
» Anyway, meeting
you.

1858
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:03,399
» Yes.
Hi.