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» Like to call this uh

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regular council meeting to order on June

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9th, 20126. Will you please turn

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yourselves off or on silent and stand

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and repeat with me or uh pledge of

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allegiance?

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Thank you.

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» Roll call.

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» Councelor Mira.

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» Councelor Wman

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» Here.

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» Councelor Knight

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» Here.

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» Councelor Bquette

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» Here.

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» Councelor Murray

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» Here.

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» All present.

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And

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may I have a motion to approve the

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agenda, please?

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» So move.

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» Is there a motion? A second.

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» Second.

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» Any discussion?

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All in favor say I.

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» I.

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» Uh oppose say no. Motion carries. Uh

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next item is the administrator's report.

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Melanie.

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» Thank you, mayor. Uh mayor and

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counselors, I have a couple of updates

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since the administrator's report was

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written on Friday. Um one will be

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especially um important to councelor

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Waldman. I do have an update on Salce

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Park. um the the grant has moved to the

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next step in the process and we should

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have the formal notice of award within

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the next 30 to 45 days which once we

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have that then we can move forward with

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the next step with the design. So

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» Excellent. Thank you.

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» Um and also the the work is proceeding

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it's almost done on the um animal

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services remodel

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» Ahead of schedule.

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» Yes.

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» Thank you.

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» Ahead of schedule and under budget so we

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are good there.

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Um, and then counselor night, um, I know

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you had asked Lynn for some more

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information about the, um,

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adventure day that happened on Saturday

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at Liam's Pond. And so Lynn gave me a

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list of the sponsors. It's a a very

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large list, but it included um Coyote

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Gravel Products and Pumping Service, Hit

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or Miss Archery Center, Tuk Stuckco, The

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Archery Shop, Bosi Barber Shop, Waypoint

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Vehicle Uplifters, Ace Hardware, JPR, uh

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Gravel and Construction, uh the Bass Pro

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Shop, and BA BMC Tactical. So, they they

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gave away $15,000

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in prizes on Saturday at the at the

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event, including free fishing rods to

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all of the kids that came. So, it was a

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um very successful event. I'm not sure

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how many fish were caught, and I'm not

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sure if all of the tagged fish were

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caught, but um

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» Sarah and they had they caught and this

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was like about 10:30 and the two fish

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that came out that I saw were huge.

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» They were this big.

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helping helping

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» This big. But um also, you know, um

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animal services were there from the

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village and um uh of course the police

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department as well as the fire

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department and Lynn. And you know, it it

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was so much fun to go over there and see

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all these families together fishing and

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having fun. And it even for like little

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tots, they had like a little pool filled

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with fake fish that they could sit in

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and grab them. It was It was really

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pretty cool.

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» Yeah, Murray.

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» Yeah. So, to follow up on that, I got a

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haircut Monday and I was talking to my

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stylist and she her son participated in

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the fishing and when he caught his fish,

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he was sorely disappointed because it

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was only about gay [laughter]

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and everybody else was have catching the

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big ones. Well, turns out he had the

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smallest fish.

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» Then he won a prize.

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» He won prize. His attitude changed

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immensely afterwards. But uh yeah, it

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was pretty funny because she showed me a

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picture and it was just, you know,

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» You just had to feel for him because

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he's sitting there that then, but when

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he got the award, you know, oh,

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great.

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» Yeah. I I know um of one one child, he

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he won an Xbox, so there there were some

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really good prizes. So, yeah. Yeah. So,

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um we're hoping to be able to do that

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again next year. So,

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» Um and then let's see, what was the

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other update I had for you? Oh, there

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has been a case of the new world screw

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worm in New Mexico in Lee County and a

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and a dog. So, um we're we're keeping an

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eye on that um for our our health and

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safety. So, um with that, oh, let's see.

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Um you'll see on tonight's consent

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agenda all of the resolutions for our

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our parah, our public employees

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retirement fund. And um this has been I

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believe we started the process of um

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adding our employees to this about 19

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years ago. Is that is that right? And we

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have been working um this has been the

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goal to get our police and fire

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departments to plan five which is the

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highest plan we can go. So this is this

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is an amazing day. I know a lot of our

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our police and fire are here tonight um

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in support of this. So, um, thank you

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for your consideration of this and for

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your, um, agreeing to pick up some of

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the employees contributions on this

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because this is really helpful to the

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village for our recruiting and our

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retention for our employees. So, just

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wanted to say thank you in advance.

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Hopefully, it passes. With that, if

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there's any questions on the report or

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any requests for next time,

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» Council me.

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» Uh, thank you. So I know that I asked a

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question about item five in your report

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about the U amended site plan

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withdrawing his application and I

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understand now actually talking with uh

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our attorney and that we do not have

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rules in place that would penalize

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anybody from withdrawing their

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application. So consequently I'm

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disappointed

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and there are still problems with that.

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I I think that we need to go court code

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enforcement to go back and take a look

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at that because he's got two entrances,

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but he was only allowed one. So, I think

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it's it's incumbent that we take a look

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at the uh violations that are there and

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see if we can get them resolved. But, uh

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yeah, I'm not happy with uh with that

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result, but that's if that's the way it

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» Thank you, mayor.

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» Uh, moving right along. Coraleno's

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forum. This section is forformational

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purposes only, not for discussion and

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debate to inform the governing body of

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an issue or concern that would not be

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addressed on the agenda during the

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business session. There will be a three

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minute time limit for each speaker. How

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many speakers are there, Mandy?

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» Pamela Whitney.

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» Good evening.

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» Can you please state your name and

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address for the record?

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» Uh, Pamela Whitney, 942 Old Church Road.

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» Good evening. Um, I'm here to give an

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update on 944 Old Church Road uh where

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there's a uh clean and lean in place

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which we hope will remain in place until

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this is resolved. Um, since we I last

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spoke with you, I I will let you know I

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am in here on behalf of all of the

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neighbors who couldn't always be here

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tonight because they now know that the

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official report from planning and zoning

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will was pushed to next week. But two of

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us are here to give a report on that.

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Um, since we last spoke, there have been

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uh not just uh pickup trucks coming in

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with debris, mostly metal. They're now

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dump trucks. There have been four of

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them that I've seen, and another one

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came at 8:30 at night and unloaded for 2

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hours. The debris of metal was piled so

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high that you could see it over the edge

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of the dump truck um bringing in metal.

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Um they now have so there's new material

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coming in all the time. Since they got a

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report saying that it was substantially

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clean, they thought, "Oh, Ali Ali income

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free. We're good to go now. Let's bring

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in more stuff." Um they built they're

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building a shed 30 ft by 15 ft uh with

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no permit. Uh PNZ has been out to see

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this and now has acknowledged there's

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new material that wasn't there from

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their last report. In conclusion, we've

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all come to the conclusion, all the

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neighbors, and I believe P&Z, that this

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is an ongoing business. It's a

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scrapyard. It's a junkyard. Scrapyard

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has been in business for years. It is

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their source of income. Um, scrap comes

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in, scrap goes out, scrap comes in,

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scraps out. We have to assume it's being

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sold. Uh, they have worked hard to get

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the flammable material out, but the

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business will remain. And we hope that

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by the end of this, whatever the

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conclusion, however this is resolved, we

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hoped very very much that there will be

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something in writing in the clean and

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lean that says that you all have the

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right to come and inspect every four to

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6 months to ensure that this business

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has been ongoing for over 30 to 40 years

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does not continue to go once they feel

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they have met the requirements of the

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clean and lean because this is their

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source of income which is fine. It's a

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residential neighborhood and maybe in

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the old days when it wasn't so urban, it

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was fine. But now they need to take the

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money that they've made from other land,

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sell it, and go somewhere else to run

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their business and live peacefully as

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our neighbor. Thank you very much.

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» Thank you. Next, Mandy.

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» Um Amy Clement.

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I'm Amy Clement, 942 Old Church Road,

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speaking about the same property. And

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I'm sure you're tired of me speaking

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about the same property. You know, kind

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of tired as well, but I just wanted to

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make sure the lean and clean is um

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handled carefully, that it's not just

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removed without uh lots of inspections.

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And then when it is finally removed,

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there will be some kind of followup

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because I do believe they just move it

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from one pile here to one pile here. But

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I also believe there are still a lot of

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flammable things there because I just

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saw the 60 unused tires pile has never

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been removed and that would burn for

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days. I get frustrated with Paralis

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Comment because every time this is on

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the front page of Paral Comment, they

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put in the title trashy neighbors blah

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blah blah. It's not about it being

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trashy and I'm a Karen or like it's an

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eyesore thing. I think they're spending

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all the time on a fence to hide it, but

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it's not about them being trashy at all.

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It's about a fire hazard. There's all

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It's about safety, not about being an

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eyesore. So, it's not about hiding it so

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we don't see it in and our feel like our

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neighborhood is trashy. It's not that at

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all. It's just a a safety hazard for a

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fire that will burn for days.

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» Thank you.

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» Thank you,

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» Mr. Mayor. Mor.

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» Yes,

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» If I could just interrupt for a minute.

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We were expecting, I think, an update

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tonight. Could you tell us what this

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post I'm sorry to interrupt, but

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» Yeah. um it would just needed a little

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more time to to follow up. We're we're

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in the process of of getting quotes on

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on cleaning up the property ourselves.

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So, um it it is it is still in place. It

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is still moving forward. Uh we were just

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hoping to have some more information

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before we gave you a formal report. So,

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it'll be part of uh Lor's monthly report

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in the next council packet.

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» Thank you.

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» Thank you so much, Bob. I

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Well, I live in Corales.

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First off, I recognize Cibil Sheepard

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back here. Haven't seen her for many,

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many years since her husband passed.

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Great family and I miss John

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all the time. Okay. [clears throat]

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Pardon me. I would still like to bring

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up there's a no loadering sign. It has

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been proven to be unconstitutional.

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You can loiter in a public parking

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[clears throat] lot.

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So, I'd really like to get that one

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removed.

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The number of coyotes are really

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increasing right now. The pups are out.

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The coyotes are are going everywhere.

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Uh and then just two two things. The

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number of cars that pass on the right on

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Corral's Road

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is out of out of hand. Every time you

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stop to make a left-hand turn, they're

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passing you on the right. They don't

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pass me, but I see it all the time. It's

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illegal. They can't go on the dirt.

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But then I've been passed on also. I do

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speed limit. I use cruise control cuz I

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got a heavy foot. But they're passing me

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on over.

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Uh years ago, I followed the guy all the

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way to his house. My wife wouldn't let

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me get out and talk to him.

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But

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most of the drivers here are great. It

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just it's just those few that are either

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passing on the right or passing on the

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left. They're whatever they're doing,

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they're doing it wrong. Thank you. Thank

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you. Next, Mandy.

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» Civil Kaiser. Yes.

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Civil Kaiser 160 West Meadow Law. Um,

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I'm here to speak against a a noise

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ordinance. Um,

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I we do have a a real noise problem

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corrals. The traffic there's more people

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living here. Traffic is loud. You can't

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regulate that. Um, we value our farm

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community all day. I listen to weed

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whackers, leaf blowers, all kinds of

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motors, but I respect that people need

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to use that and we can't regulate that.

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Um, I listen to I walk outside and my

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the dog barks at me all the time. The

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peacock screech and the chicken the

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rooster has no regard for the dawn and

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just crows all day. But you can't

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regulate that. So you're looking at

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regulating music. We are so fortunate to

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have some venues, local venues where we

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can go and enjoy music. And it seems

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like it's that's something that that

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should we should encourage to exist

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here. Um, I understand if you're uh live

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near the commercial zone, maybe it would

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not be so hard to just accommodate and

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tolerate that music till 9:30. 9:30

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curfew is the only ordinance we need. I

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heard an argument that just because you

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live in the commercial district, you

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should um be entitled to to the same

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kind of quiet that everyone else. And

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that's ridiculous. your property values

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reflect that. If you live in a more

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densely populated area, it's going to be

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a little noisier. I mean, I think you

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have there's other conveniences that you

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enjoy, but that's a trade-off. And I I

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don't think we can expect it's not too

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much to ask for those residents to just

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tolerate some tombs till 9:30 at night.

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And uh Rudy Ma

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16 East Millark.

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We are here to solve problems.

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That's those aren't my words. That's

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what U. Councelor Mietta said at this

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meeting uh last Tuesday. And so let's

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start solving some problems. you know,

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um,

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Robert Hobbes talked about, uh, that he

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and I have some disagreements and we

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agreed to disagree, but we also agreed

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to agree. And one thing we can agree on

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is uh an entrance further to the north

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on on Corales Road because you know

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there was uh a statement made by the PNZ

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uh administrator when we had our first

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um appeal back in 2023 and we were told

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that uh the New Mexico Department of

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Transportation would never grant uh

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variance.

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Time out. Not true. The New Mexico

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Department of Transportation is located

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at 1120 Cerillios Road in New Mexico in

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Santa Fe, which is another name for

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Highway 14. In fact, the entire basic uh

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commercial district of the city of Santa

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Fe is on a variance. Whether you want to

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go to the Elcourt Motel or you want to

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go to Whole Foods Market, get some art

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supplies at Artisans or buy some good

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food in Marisos, those businesses have

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all been granted a variance. That is

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highway 14 from all the way from uh

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Department of Transportation

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through uh Rodeo Road all the way up to

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where it ends in in uh in Gali Stable

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Road. So I think that uh we should uh

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take a look at the parallel that we have

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our same situation here that this is a a

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state highway and we're being told well

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there can be no variances granted. Well

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variances have been granted to the point

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that that's how uh economy of Santa Fe

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is still sustained. I think that maybe

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we should take a look and councelor

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Marie mentioned about you know it was

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better. He was disappointed there was

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two entrances allowed. If there's one

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entrance, we would like to see it on the

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north side, but it's going to take more

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than than just Robert fighting it

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himself or us the metallark or we need

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the village behind us. I think we need

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the council behind us and I think we

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should take this up as a problem we

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could solve. I think, you know, they say

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the definition of uh being insane is to

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keep doing the same thing over and over

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again. Will people keep talking over and

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over again to Margaret? I don't know who

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Margaret is over at the DOT, but we

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might need to go above Margaret and

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councelor Mietta. think you you had so

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much experience with the uh legislature

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and you know how government works and

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all that. Uh maybe that would be

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something you can be helping us out in

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in terms of uh doing what we're here for

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which is to solve problems. Thank you

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very much.

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» Thank you.

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» That's Deborah de laator.

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I'm Deborah de la. I live at 28 East

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Metal Arlane Pales.

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Mayor Hashimoto and councel, we have

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been recently made aware due to the

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inclusion on the agenda that the

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property owner Robert Hobbs of 3605

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Corales Road has withdrawn his site

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development plan 2603 amendment as

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following public site development plan

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hearings. The matter was appealed to the

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village council which determined that

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the proposed increase in intensity

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required further review and remanded the

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application to the planning and zoning

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commission. The applicant then withdrew

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the request and elected to proceed under

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the previously approved original site

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development plan. The owner cannot

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obtain by withdrawal what could not be

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obtained through approval. By

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withdrawing the amendment to modify, the

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applicant remains subject to the

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original site development plan and all

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conditions associated with that

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approval. The withdrawal of the

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application cannot serve as

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authorization for site improvements,

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operations, or uses that differ from the

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approved plan. It has become apparent

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that the site as currently constructed

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and operated may not fully conform to

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the approved SDP plan

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and its conditions. Accordingly, I

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request the village conduct a

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comprehensive compliance review and

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require conformance with all elements of

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the approved plan, including but not

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limited to restoration and construction

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of all site improvements not shown on

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the original approved STP. Remove the

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shipping container, shed, storage,

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fencing, concrete slabs, outdoor gazebo,

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all were added without proper

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permitting. replacement of the

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screening, the walls, the fencing, the

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landscaping and buffering elements that

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were existing on that original plan, but

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subsequently removed, altered or never

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installed. Replacement of a 6' high

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solid wood fencing at the north portion

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of the property. Tree replacement as

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shown on the landscape plan. Restore a

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six-ft high wire fence on Corales Road

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from the wood fence south. Then extend

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east on Metoark. Remove the access drive

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around the pond. Restore the required

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runup capacity and maintenance of all

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drainage, grading, and storm water

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management improvements required by the

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original approved STP. Compliance of all

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approved hours of restaurant operation,

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8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through

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Friday, as shown on Mr. Hob's original

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application. His original application,

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hence the approval from from PNZ

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originally was specifically that states

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for one small delicatessan. Hours of

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business are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

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There will be no open cooking in the

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delicatessan and the idea for Belle's

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deli liquor license was dropped during

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the original discussion and was never

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approved. And Miss Romero's finding of

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fact number seven is incorrect.

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Thank you for your attention to this

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matter.

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» Thank you. Next, Mandy

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» Kathy Campbell.

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» Kathy Campbell, 8 East Metal Arc Lane.

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Good evening, mayor and counselors.

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Thank you for the opportunity to address

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the council of fellow Corinians tonight.

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As a resident of Palis for over 40 years

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and as an appealing party in a quasi

541
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judicial proceeding recently heard by

542
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,520
the council in the special meeting on

543
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,000
June 2nd, I want to express my concerns

544
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,320
of bea on behalf of myself and the other

545
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,120
appalants regarding the process followed

546
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,280
particularly with regard to notice and

547
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:37,520
adequate documentation of the proceeding

548
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,360
and of subsequent events. In the hearing

549
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,960
on June 2nd, we were led to believe that

550
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,280
there would be insufficient time for the

551
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,440
BNZ to review the conditions set forth

552
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,679
in the council's decision and it would

553
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,000
most likely be heard at the council's

554
00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:51,520
regular meeting on June 23rd. With that

555
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,120
in mind, the opponents were surprised to

556
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,120
learn that the findings of fact and

557
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:57,120
conclusions of law would be on the

558
00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:00,000
agenda for re review at tonight's

559
00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:02,000
meeting and that the amended STP which

560
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,200
was the subject of the appeal had been

561
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,559
withdrawn by the apply Mr. Hobbs. that

562
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,159
information was included in

563
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:10,880
administrator's report in the agenda

564
00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:12,559
packet. Another issue of concern is that

565
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,039
the minutes of that appeal hearing do

566
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:16,640
not adequately reflect the testimony and

567
00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:19,200
evidence presented for appropriate

568
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,520
documentation of the proceeding and in

569
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,360
fact refer to an incorrect STP in the

570
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,679
motion presented. Further, the

571
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,600
withdrawal of STP 2603 should be

572
00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:30,080
presented to the counselors as part of

573
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:33,360
the appeal proceeding itself and does

574
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,679
not in and in and of itself relieve the

575
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:38,559
Appal League from his responsibilities

576
00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:40,320
under the original SDP. I present these

577
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,640
concerns for your consideration in

578
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,880
addressing items number one and three on

579
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,440
the agenda for tonight's meeting. Again,

580
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,360
mayor, counselors, and fellow Orlando,

581
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,799
thank you for your time.

582
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:54,360
» Thank you. Next,

583
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:54,360
» Salame Ward.

584
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:05,039
» Hi, Salame Ward, East Metal Arc Lane.

585
00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:06,640
Uh, um, hi everyone. Thank you so much.

586
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:08,960
What, you know, for what each of you

587
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,679
does. Um, one thing I just wanted to

588
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,760
remind everyone here is, I don't know,

589
00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:16,559
it raises my hackles now every time I

590
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,279
hear commercial zone because we don't

591
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:22,000
have a commercial zone in uh, Corales.

592
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:23,840
We have a neighborhood commercial zone.

593
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,919
So people, everyone seems to always

594
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,159
forget the neighborhood part. We're all

595
00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:30,880
neighbors here and it's a neighborhood

596
00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:33,760
commercial zone. Um so I think we should

597
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,440
all be concerned about the enjoyment and

598
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,640
the health and the well-being of all of

599
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,240
our neighbors. Um, so what I was well I

600
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,760
was going to talk about division like so

601
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,760
many times right now it seems that

602
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,480
there's division and I still believe

603
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,200
that we have so much more in common and

604
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,840
ultimately what we all want is to enjoy

605
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,080
our lives here in this beautiful village

606
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,440
and to have good neighbors. Good

607
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,080
neighbors whether or not they're

608
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,480
residents, whether they're businesses,

609
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:04,320
whether they're both, whether they have

610
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,720
whether they're uh you get the idea. So,

611
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,880
um, so anyway, I hope that we all could

612
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,080
always be good neighbors to each other.

613
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,760
Um, I would like to add my, uh, support

614
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,240
my neighbors that just came up here and

615
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:19,200
spoke. I'm also on East Bedark and I

616
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,279
share their concerns about the property,

617
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,919
um, at the corner there of the corner of

618
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,600
Corales Road. Um, but one thing I also

619
00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:27,200
wanted to mention, recently I've been to

620
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,520
meetings regarding a liquor license,

621
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,200
regarding an appeal, um, all kinds of

622
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,600
things. And it's a great learning

623
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,200
process, but sometimes it's frustrating

624
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,000
because it seems that there's

625
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,000
inconsistencies or there are rules that

626
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,640
are hard to understand, especially with

627
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,400
regards to quasi judicial or quasi

628
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:49,520
legal. I forgot what the official term

629
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:52,320
is. Um recently um at an appeal um

630
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,799
attendees were told that only the

631
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,720
appalants would be allowed to speak but

632
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,320
then afterwards someone said to me where

633
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,919
did they get that rule from? That's not

634
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,320
true. You were part of the initial

635
00:25:59,919 --> 00:26:04,240
hearing you were also allowed to speak.

636
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,400
So sometimes there's frustrating things

637
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,960
like that that happen. Sometimes it

638
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,320
appears that um sorry like the

639
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,919
administrator sometimes you put your

640
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,760
finger on the scale in the way things

641
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:15,760
are presented and you should be

642
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,120
impartial like that shouldn't happen. So

643
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,520
that's frustrating. Um and also recently

644
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:23,039
at the liquor license hearing God it's

645
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,360
hard to say this in front of everyone.

646
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:27,919
Okay. Um there one of the council

647
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:30,640
members um accused people that were

648
00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:32,960
opposing the liquor license. Um there

649
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,919
was talk about people intentionally

650
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,919
being misleading and lying and

651
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:39,760
particularly under oath because you have

652
00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:42,799
to swear an oath when you speak at a

653
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,799
quasi judicial process. In the end after

654
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,880
the meeting it was all cleared up. It

655
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:50,000
was a misunderstanding but in the

656
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,720
meantime that accusation stuck. It

657
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,880
stayed there that people that were

658
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,200
exercising their right and speaking out

659
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,840
against something were kind of accused

660
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,440
of of being misleading and lying. So, I

661
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,279
just want everybody to be careful.

662
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,360
You're all our neighbors as well, and

663
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:07,760
let's try to

664
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,039
bring the temperature down instead of uh

665
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,799
make it worse. Thank you.

666
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:14,120
» Thank you. Next, Mandy.

667
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:14,120
» Teddy Chavez.

668
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,880
My name is Eddie Chavis. I live at 10

669
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,880
Mountain View Lane on the north end of

670
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,880
Corales.

671
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:37,039
Mountain View Lane is just north of the

672
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,919
Harvey Jones Canal and just south of the

673
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:43,774
escurves that are going on the way

674
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:43,774
towards the tree. [snorts]

675
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:52,159
Mountain View Lane has three other

676
00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:54,559
families that live on Mountain View Lane

677
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:57,360
as well as myself.

678
00:27:54,559 --> 00:28:02,080
On a daily basis and on multiple

679
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:04,320
occasions, I have to exit or enter

680
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,919
from Mountain View Lane onto Corales

681
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,279
Road

682
00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:12,000
130 ft from a blind curve.

683
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:16,240
On a daily basis, I have to cross

684
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Corella Road to pick up my menu. 2.35

685
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:22,640
seconds from a blind curve.

686
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,799
On a frequent basis,

687
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,760
I have a close encounter with a vehicle

688
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:31,360
coming around that blind curve as I exit

689
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,039
onto Coral's road or cross to pick up my

690
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:35,440
mail.

691
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,840
On a frequent basis, I get harassed for

692
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,679
slowing down to turn into Mountain

693
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Delay.

694
00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:45,440
On a frequent basis, I think to myself,

695
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,080
one of these days,

696
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,039
this has been going on for over 45 years

697
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,559
that I've lived on Mountain View Lane,

698
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:54,799
except that it's happening more

699
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,640
frequently.

700
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,240
I have witnessed several dozen

701
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,240
accidents.

702
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Two utility poles taken out, a gas

703
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:08,080
meter, leaking gas with a wrecked car on

704
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:12,320
top of it, fences and walls knocked

705
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,799
down, and even dead people.

706
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,399
I am here to request that the Corellus

707
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:20,559
Police Department effectively

708
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:23,919
effectively

709
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:26,640
increase their presence and enforcement

710
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:29,360
of the speed limit on our portion of

711
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Corales Road.

712
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Actions speak louder than words.

713
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,640
Let the actions of me and my neighbors

714
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,480
today

715
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,880
um please take into account the actions

716
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,360
that we take and let our words speak for

717
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640
themselves. Thank you.

718
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,039
» Thank you.

719
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,039
» Russell Shahill.

720
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:58,480
» Uh I'm Russell Trujillo, 7596

721
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:01,520
Corales Road. I'm uh Eddie Chavis is one

722
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,480
of his neighbors and uh we've been up

723
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:09,600
here before talking about the traffic

724
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:12,399
and uh it's uh it's still a problem down

725
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,679
there. I do appreciate councelor Ma.

726
00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:18,640
He's helped us out quite a bit. Uh I did

727
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:21,039
talk to Steve Lecu the other day. I

728
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,880
caught him down there. They were taking

729
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,840
pictures of the trees that need to be

730
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,640
removed. I know it's going to be a long

731
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,799
process, but uh you know, we're still

732
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:35,279
behind you and we still would like to

733
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:38,799
see uh something done down there, you

734
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:42,000
know, and uh uh we noticed tonight when

735
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:44,559
I was coming the the S-curve sign in the

736
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,159
south lane, it's been down for about two

737
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:50,720
or three days now. Somebody ran over it

738
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:53,600
and uh you know, we'd really like to

739
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,159
have some police presence down there. Uh

740
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,039
we do see it occasionally at the tree

741
00:30:56,159 --> 00:31:01,840
farm. Uh the other day I went down

742
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:05,840
Lomalara and I seen three police cars at

743
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:09,360
different areas. But I'm sure uh you

744
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:11,919
know Lomalara doesn't have uh probably

745
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:16,080
10% of the traffic we have in Coralis

746
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:18,000
Road on that side. So it'd really be

747
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:23,520
nice to have some police presence down

748
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:27,279
there and uh slow down that traffic. Uh,

749
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,520
we also had an event down there. I guess

750
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:33,039
it's been a month and a half ago where

751
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:36,880
we'd had trucks. I don't know what the

752
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:39,840
the regulations for truck traffic is on

753
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,399
Corales Road, but we had non-stop truck

754
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,799
traffic for a month and a half down

755
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:48,159
there. The big the big trucks moving

756
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:50,240
back and forth. Probably 80,000 pounds

757
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:53,200
of load on on those trucks. I know the

758
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:56,480
highway wasn't made for that. Either was

759
00:31:53,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Lalara. They were coming from the 528

760
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:02,960
project in Rio Rancho coming down road

761
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,000
and they were going somewhere over by

762
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:10,559
the old church and back and forth all

763
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,960
day and it it's pretty annoying. Uh and

764
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,240
uh it's just one of those things. And

765
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,320
another thing that we need some

766
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:21,519
enforcement on is these new uh the trash

767
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:24,799
trailers. I mean, just today I was

768
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:27,039
working out in my field. I counted in

769
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,399
two hours. I counted five of these trash

770
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,760
trailers. I don't know if you know what

771
00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:33,279
I mean. They're uh they seem like

772
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,600
they're everywhere. Every every

773
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:38,240
contractor has one now, but they're all

774
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,600
going to the county dump and it's

775
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,399
nonstop. Some days it's non-stop.

776
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:47,039
Some guys have their loads tied down,

777
00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:48,960
but I have picked up a lot of trash off

778
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:51,919
the highway in front of my house from

779
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,000
stuff just bouncing off those trailers.

780
00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:56,080
And uh sometimes I think they're going

781
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,720
to stop and come and pick it up, but

782
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,640
they never do. Thank you.

783
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:04,679
» Thank you.

784
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,679
» Is Isabella Trill.

785
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:14,480
» Hello. Isabella Trujillo 7596 Corales

786
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:17,679
Road. Um I will also express as my

787
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,760
neighbors and father have explained that

788
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:22,960
it's a very dangerous S-curve down there

789
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:27,039
at the north end of Corales. Um and we

790
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:29,039
are continuing to live with it. Um and I

791
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:32,559
hope we can get some sort of resolve

792
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:35,360
with that as well. Um, I'd also like to

793
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:37,600
um mention for the public that the Kraas

794
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,799
farmland preservation

795
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,480
um program has been opened again,

796
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,360
application program has been opened

797
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,120
again as the council had approved it.

798
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Um, and I want to make sure that that is

799
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,159
known for the public. It the application

800
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,240
process closes on June 22nd in about a

801
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:56,320
little about two weeks. So any land

802
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,960
owners interested in placing their

803
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,919
property in a conservation easement,

804
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,360
please reach out to the village um about

805
00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:05,600
that process. So you can find the

806
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,519
application on the village website. It's

807
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,599
also you can go to the admin office and

808
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:12,399
get it. You can return it in person or

809
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:14,879
email it back. Um and then the the

810
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:16,960
process will begin from there. So if

811
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:19,760
anyone is interested or has questions, I

812
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,240
do have some flyers available and or

813
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,280
just go to the village website and check

814
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:28,000
that out. Um, this is one of the only

815
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,480
programs that the village offers to

816
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,919
support farming in Corales. So, please

817
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,240
take advantage of it. Um,

818
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:38,879
and yes, this is a really important

819
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:40,800
program that we have here.

820
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:43,119
You could potentially get some money out

821
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,960
of it. So, we need to really support our

822
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:47,839
agriculture, our farmers in this

823
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,839
village. And this is one of the uh one

824
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:52,000
way that we can really do that. And

825
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:54,079
again, please continue supporting local

826
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,480
agriculture. Come to the growers market.

827
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:59,440
Every Sunday, 9 to noon until November.

828
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,880
We are there. And there's a lot of food

829
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,280
that we are producing here in the

830
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,960
village. And people need to eat it. So,

831
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,240
please come to the market, get your

832
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,320
food, and um help us continue supporting

833
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:12,880
agriculture in the village. And that

834
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,680
also helps with less traffic on the

835
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,079
roads because there's less houses being

836
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,640
developed, so there's less cars, so more

837
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,520
property is being used in farmland.

838
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,760
Thank you very much.

839
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,640
» Thank you.

840
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960
» Next, Mandy,

841
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,960
» Ran Garfield.

842
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:36,880
» Hello, I'm Ran Garfield. Uh I'm at 7532

843
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Parales Road and I'm speaking about the

844
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,839
the

845
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,480
line curve at the north end. Uh my

846
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:46,720
family has lived in Palace for over 50

847
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,640
years and our property is located

848
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:51,280
between the Jones Channel to the south

849
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,800
and the tree farm to the north. We are

850
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,880
dead center on the infamous blind curve.

851
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,359
There has been much property damage over

852
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,160
these years, including fence damage, gas

853
00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:04,720
meters having to be relocated,

854
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,040
mailboxes being run over, power poles

855
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:10,040
being knocked over, and also some

856
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
fatalities.

857
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,160
The yellow arrow signs put on the curb

858
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,680
by the highway department in front of

859
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,839
our property have even been mowed down.

860
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,119
The work done by the village government

861
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:24,880
so far is is much appreciated.

862
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:27,280
With the everinccreasing amount of

863
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,280
traffic, it is becoming more treacherous

864
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,520
to pull in and out of our driveways and

865
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,560
to cross the road on foot than we

866
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,720
irrigate our property. A concentrated

867
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,599
police presence is needed to slow down

868
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,599
the traffic on this blind curve and a

869
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:44,640
reduction of the speed limit would help

870
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:46,400
the most. Thank you.

871
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,520
» Thank you.

872
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,880
Next, may

873
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,880
» Uh Ken Dehoff.

874
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:59,440
» Good evening, uh, mayor and counselors.

875
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:02,400
I'm Ken Dehoff.

876
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:06,320
Uh, I live at 7648

877
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:09,760
Corales Road, or at least it was 7648

878
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:12,400
Corales Road before Lorie Stout made me

879
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:16,000
name my driveway. It's now Bad Coyote.

880
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:19,599
So, we're Bad Coyote Farm and we are 100

881
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,920
ft south of the tree farm and I'm here

882
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:25,119
to support my neighbors

883
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,920
uh to mention that we all met with

884
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:31,200
Representative Kates and Councelor

885
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,920
Mierra last year. We had what I thought

886
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,480
were really good, productive

887
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,520
conversations

888
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:43,680
about doing something to improve safety.

889
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:47,200
I I just my my mailbox story is that I

890
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:49,200
see UPS and FedEx trucks

891
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,320
cross the yellow line, cross the

892
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:55,200
dividing line coming up to our house and

893
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,079
then they overcorre correct right into

894
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,680
where my mailbox is. So I just have to I

895
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:04,320
have to be very mindful of not being at

896
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,040
my mailbox when I see something coming

897
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,040
up from Mountain View. And I can just I

898
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,200
can see that and say, "Okay, as long as

899
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,400
it's clear, I got enough time to get up,

900
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:17,359
get my mail, and get out of there." And

901
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:22,480
so, it would be

902
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:24,880
uh helpful to follow through on what we

903
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:29,760
talked about last year. And I'm going to

904
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:33,760
give you a word and some personal advice

905
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:36,480
called persistence with my second topic,

906
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,520
which is that uh tomorrow evening in the

907
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:42,400
Sandival County Commission, the county

908
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,440
commission is going to be voting

909
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,960
uh to determine that the Sandival County

910
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Assessor has abandoned her role by

911
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:55,839
taking a job with the state treasurer.

912
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Uh I don't know if anybody has seen the

913
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:01,920
Larry Barker

914
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:05,040
uh article about that. Uh if you

915
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:10,079
haven't, it's worth seeing. And

916
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:12,000
you all know that I have been one word

917
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:15,599
persistent

918
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,920
on trying to protect the rights of land

919
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:21,440
owners in Corales. And I'm doing it with

920
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:24,440
my own property. But persistence

921
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,440
requires

922
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:30,800
effort and it requires continuous

923
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:34,880
effort. I mean the mayor showed up here

924
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:37,119
regularly. I mean if you remember we

925
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,560
have a number of people that show up

926
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:43,520
regularly on an issue. That persistence

927
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,160
is I think what we on the north end are

928
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:49,920
asking from the council

929
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:53,119
to help us improve safety on the north

930
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:56,280
end of Corales Road. Thank you.

931
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,280
» Thank you.

932
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:05,680
» Next item is the consularor's forum.

933
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:08,320
This section is forformational purposes

934
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,480
only, not for discussion and debate, to

935
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,640
inform the governing body of an issue or

936
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,599
concern that would not be addressed on

937
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:19,000
the agenda during the business session.

938
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,000
Any counselors?

939
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,920
Council me. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I

940
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:27,280
want to just uh take some time to not on

941
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040
the agenda. So therefore, I'll say

942
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,640
wanted to thank uh all of you for

943
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,200
showing up, but specifically my

944
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:37,440
constituents who have been uh very kind

945
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,280
and taking their time, understanding

946
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,359
that we need to take our time with the

947
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,440
state, but I continue working with them

948
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:45,280
and they continue working with us. And

949
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,400
so I want to thank them for coming and

950
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,040
uh Tim that as I've told you you make

951
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,960
your your uh your statements here and

952
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,200
they're going record but mostly we get

953
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,119
used to seeing you and then maybe we

954
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,680
think maybe it's nice if we didn't see

955
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:02,160
them so much so because we took care of

956
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,560
their issues. So I want to thank you for

957
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,880
reminding us of what we need to do and

958
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,640
uh I'll end it Mr. Mayor by just saying

959
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,280
what bothers me the most. These people

960
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,880
do have to cross from one side of the

961
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,880
street to the other to get their mail

962
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,440
cuz we we can't move the mailboxes. They

963
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,520
might get run over, but uh no, not the

964
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,280
not the people in mailboxes, but uh

965
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,520
nonetheless, you have to cross the

966
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,599
street. And to me, that's so disturbing,

967
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,680
but everybody else along Corales Road

968
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:29,920
has to do that, too. So, uh thank you

969
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,440
very much for reminding us of what uh we

970
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,880
can do to help you. So, thank you very

971
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,880
much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

972
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,200
» Sure. Any other counselors who would

973
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,200
like to speak?

974
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:42,800
Okay,

975
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,880
next item, consent agenda. May I have a

976
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,359
motion to approve the consent agenda,

977
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,640
please?

978
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:50,640
» So move.

979
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,119
» I'll second.

980
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,119
» Any discussion?

981
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:58,240
Councelor Murray and Council Wman and

982
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:00,319
Mera. Yeah. So, with the uh application

983
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:02,640
for the harvest festival and closing the

984
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:05,440
crossroad, how do residents get to the

985
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,839
post office on those days when uh the

986
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,839
road is closed?

987
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,119
» I don't know.

988
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,839
» I'm just curious because, you know, it

989
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,800
does say road closure, but if residents

990
00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:18,800
need to get to the post office,

991
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,319
especially on Saturday when it's open,

992
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,760
uh they need some mechanism by which

993
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:25,440
they can get to the post office.

994
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,720
I I know in the past you've been able to

995
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,640
to go in and and park at the rec center.

996
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:33,280
I I don't know if they can park there

997
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,880
and and walk. We We'll find out for you.

998
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,280
» Well, I mean, post office obviously has

999
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,839
their own parking lot. That's federal

1000
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,160
property. So, if anybody is using that

1001
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:44,160
for the harvest festival, uh they may be

1002
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,640
in violation of federal law. So, I don't

1003
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,680
know. But, uh it seems like to me that

1004
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,760
uh we need to have that uh you know,

1005
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,200
discussed.

1006
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Councilwoman,

1007
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,280
» A very minor point, but uh on the ditch

1008
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,760
run application, I think it should

1009
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,000
probably read um that this is the third

1010
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,079
year of the uh ditch run rather than the

1011
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,720
30th year.

1012
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,240
So,

1013
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,760
» Okay,

1014
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,920
» Thank you Mira.

1015
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,960
» Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh two

1016
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,359
different questions. Um one would be uh

1017
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,280
going back to Pamela's first statement

1018
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:19,680
and all those that were here on Church

1019
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,280
Road. Um,

1020
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:27,599
anyone, but I was looking for PNZ. Do we

1021
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:31,599
even have even if we could, if we don't

1022
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:33,680
have a special zoning for a scrapyard at

1023
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:37,280
all in Corales,

1024
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,800
we do. We don't. So, there's there's no

1025
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,599
even if somebody's doing legally or

1026
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,480
illegally.

1027
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,800
» Lori Lori is here.

1028
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,560
» Oh, Lori, is she here? I was used to Oh,

1029
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,160
there you are. I'm used to seeing you in

1030
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,240
the back. Lori, you could answer it from

1031
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,000
back there or whatever. I mean, is there

1032
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,200
such a Okay, that'll be fine. You

1033
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,440
understand my question, right? Is there

1034
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,040
such a thing as a I know in other

1035
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,839
counties and other areas, other cities,

1036
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:01,200
they do have we do we even have such a

1037
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:03,359
thing as a permit for a scrapyard?

1038
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,960
» No, we don't. Okay. Especially not in a

1039
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:07,359
residential area. If somebody tried to

1040
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,280
do that as a commercial enterprise, they

1041
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:11,520
would have to do a site development plan

1042
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,680
and it would be subject to that review.

1043
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,760
But there's no such thing for um

1044
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,359
residential. So, if we find somebody in

1045
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,599
violation of whatever it is and they

1046
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:20,480
have a scrapyard, they're they're

1047
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,400
violating.

1048
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,000
» Correct. We can we can if you're talking

1049
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,160
about the Clean and Lean property,

1050
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,319
that's going away, too. The Clean and

1051
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,319
Lean is far from dead. I It is not

1052
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:32,000
substantially compliant. They built yet

1053
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:34,000
another new building. So, we're

1054
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,960
gathering bids to get rid of that and

1055
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,720
and the scrap and whatever tires, etc.

1056
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,319
Yeah. And going along that same, is

1057
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:42,960
there such a thing as a construction

1058
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:44,720
yard or is it the same thing that we do

1059
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,920
or do not have any permission for?

1060
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,920
» Well, I can tell you there was a

1061
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,280
residence that got a home occupation and

1062
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,040
it was a very small one. It was supposed

1063
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,680
to be an office for a construction

1064
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,000
company and over the years about 20

1065
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:59,119
years it morphed into a full-on

1066
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,000
construction yard and after much you

1067
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:04,640
know appealing and court case etc etc it

1068
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,400
was removed. So that that's over and

1069
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,400
above what would typically be allowed

1070
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,240
for any home occupation. Again, if it's

1071
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,480
commercial, it would be subject to PNZ

1072
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,119
review, but not in not in a residential

1073
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,000
zone.

1074
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:18,000
» Thank you. And my final one is um I

1075
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,640
guess it was Amy, and I could be wrong.

1076
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,640
Uh correct me if I'm wrong, but uh Sid

1077
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,680
on the consent agenda, one and three

1078
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,160
were maybe out of whack or is is there

1079
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,400
any uh thing that we need to know about

1080
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,599
it as council or myself as counselor?

1081
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,800
» I'm sorry, I don't understand the

1082
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,040
question. One and three. What

1083
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,359
» On the consent agenda? One and three, I

1084
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,960
believe.

1085
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:38,240
» I I think she meant the findings of fact

1086
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,680
that

1087
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,800
» Okay. Where is that one? On the next

1088
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,359
page.

1089
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,000
» No, it's under It's under um consent

1090
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:45,520
agenda, right?

1091
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,079
» Yeah, that's number one on the consent

1092
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,680
agenda.

1093
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:53,040
» Is is are those in line?

1094
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:55,440
Maybe I should ask uh Melanie,

1095
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,800
are we okay by if we because we know the

1096
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,319
consent agenda. If we approve the

1097
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,440
consent agenda, we approving those and

1098
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:03,119
are they online? Are they okay? Yes,

1099
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,280
they they those are written by our

1100
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:09,280
attorney and this this is what would go

1101
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:12,079
if if it progressed to um somebody

1102
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:15,520
taking it to uh magistrate court that

1103
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:16,960
would be what the the court yes that the

1104
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,720
the court would look at those those

1105
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,560
findings effect. So this is the

1106
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:23,680
» Sort of the official record that goes in

1107
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,760
hand with with the minutes and um we we

1108
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,800
do have a typo in the minutes for those

1109
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,400
under the motion. It says 2602 site

1110
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,880
development plan 2602. I believe it

1111
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,359
should be 2603. So we'll we'll make that

1112
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,560
correction before those get get posted.

1113
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:37,359
» Thank you. That's all I have.

1114
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,160
» Councor Murray.

1115
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:44,000
» Uh back to the harvest festival. Are

1116
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:47,040
they not using the uh law park and the

1117
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,680
village parking facilities for harvest

1118
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,640
festival? But I did not see any drawings

1119
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:55,040
as there were last year. And I'm just

1120
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,720
curious uh are they using these two

1121
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,640
facilities as well or is it just going

1122
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,920
to be a rec center?

1123
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,240
» They they are using those for the um the

1124
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,079
artists the vendors and then the the

1125
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:11,079
other vendors will be in the

1126
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:11,079
» In our packet. I am not sure

1127
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,599
» Uh because what I was curious about and

1128
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,839
I asked this question last year I will

1129
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:19,359
ask again this year is of the

1130
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:22,560
applications that the village has

1131
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:25,280
received how many are within the village

1132
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,800
and how many are outside the village in

1133
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,200
terms of business licenses the

1134
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,319
applications that go with the harvest

1135
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,240
festival

1136
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:35,560
» Is anybody from the harvest festival

1137
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,560
here tonight

1138
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,040
It's always a good idea for anyone who

1139
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,319
has a consent agenda. I don't

1140
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,480
» Tony's here.

1141
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:48,119
» Tony Mes Tony, why don't you get up and

1142
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,119
answer the question, please?

1143
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,040
» I'm sorry, counselor. Uh, ask me again.

1144
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,640
I heard most of it, but I'm not sure

1145
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,800
what the final question was.

1146
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,960
» All right. Final question is how many

1147
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,119
applications have you received that are

1148
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,560
with from within the village and how

1149
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,040
many applications are from outside the

1150
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,599
village

1151
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,200
» For the vendors for the food trucks for

1152
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:14,240
» Well for the vendors for

1153
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,880
» The short answer is I don't have and I

1154
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:20,400
don't know that we tabulate we can it's

1155
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:24,559
not all that terribly difficult um how

1156
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:27,839
many of the artists are correlenos how

1157
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:31,680
many are from outside the village

1158
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:34,480
um it would be easier because we used to

1159
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,880
give the Coral Angos like a $10 break or

1160
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,559
something. And the food trucks, I don't

1161
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:43,680
believe any of the food trucks are from

1162
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:44,800
within are based within Corales or owned

1163
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,559
by Coralenos.

1164
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,079
» I would agree with that.

1165
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,079
» Um

1166
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:53,040
I think a

1167
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:55,359
offthe cuff Sy's here. She might have it

1168
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,480
better on board. Well, I mean, last time

1169
00:48:55,359 --> 00:49:01,839
it was uh by business licenses purchased

1170
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,599
at the village offices by those

1171
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:05,520
requiring because they had to be

1172
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:09,119
licensed within the

1173
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,720
» We do uh mandate that they get a

1174
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:11,280
business registration.

1175
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,079
» Yes,

1176
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,839
» That they they may not be here without

1177
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,440
that registration.

1178
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:18,559
» I was just curious maybe the village had

1179
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,800
something, you know, with that.

1180
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,720
» Can can I interject a thought on that?

1181
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,240
Um, any business that's already in the

1182
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,240
village wouldn't go get a business

1183
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,440
license for the grow for the harvest

1184
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,200
vessel. They would already have one. So,

1185
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,960
that would be a tough metric as well

1186
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,319
because if they're already operating in

1187
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,880
compliance, they already have a business

1188
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,960
license.

1189
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,200
» But the village should have a you know,

1190
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,240
if he's if he's got a list, it should

1191
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:43,599
match up with the village licenses,

1192
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:45,520
» Right? I think if if you apply for a

1193
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:48,720
vendor table, it seems like you put your

1194
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,400
address down on it on that uh on that

1195
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:52,400
vendor application

1196
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,640
» That is required on

1197
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,800
» And so you should

1198
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:00,319
the data should be there as far as where

1199
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,319
the vendors are are from

1200
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:04,559
» If

1201
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:06,880
I don't think I'm committing this too

1202
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:09,520
much. We can get that information to

1203
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,200
you. I the food trucks I'm pretty sure.

1204
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,200
» I'm just curious, you know, as to

1205
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,559
participation, you know, how many are

1206
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,760
inside the building or participating

1207
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:19,200
versus the outside building.

1208
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:23,119
» We also have the businesses

1209
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:26,480
that are staged over here around this

1210
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:29,119
building. Um, and I think most of those

1211
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:32,640
are not coroused. When we get to the

1212
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,240
artists, I think a good percent very

1213
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,920
solid percentage of

1214
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,160
» I was just curious too also why the maps

1215
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,240
weren't included for the village parking

1216
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,400
lot in launch audit.

1217
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:44,960
» They I know they were in because I

1218
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,440
submitted the event happen. Okay.

1219
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:50,400
» So I know they were attached. I

1220
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,960
» Yeah, it it may have Yeah. I I I don't

1221
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,200
know. I wasn't um involved in that part,

1222
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,880
but it may have been when it brought got

1223
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,119
brought over from the parks and recck

1224
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,680
commission. Maybe a page got misplaced.

1225
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:03,359
I'm not too sure, but what we can we can

1226
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,280
track that down. And also just a point

1227
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:06,960
of order, if if we have if we want to

1228
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,480
discuss items on the consent agenda,

1229
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,319
they really should be pulled off for

1230
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,920
discussion. So this we're really kind of

1231
00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:16,559
out of order here. So just

1232
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,559
just saying

1233
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:21,280
» If anybody wanted to pull an item off of

1234
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:22,400
the agenda,

1235
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,280
» Councelor Wman.

1236
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:29,040
» Yes. [clears throat] only um for points

1237
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,760
of clarification the um

1238
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,440
all the issues dealing with uh parah

1239
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,640
just so we can get a further uh

1240
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:40,440
explanation for the police and fire and

1241
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,440
um staff.

1242
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,280
» Can we pull those off as a group or do

1243
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000
we have to pull them off individually?

1244
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,520
» As a group is fine.

1245
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,200
» I can make a motion. So just make a

1246
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,400
motion to pull off items four through

1247
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,640
eight.

1248
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,800
I make a motion we remove items four

1249
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,640
through eight uh from the consent agenda

1250
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,720
for further discussion.

1251
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,480
» Any any discussion on that?

1252
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,520
All in favor say I.

1253
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,839
» I.

1254
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,240
» Opposed say no.

1255
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:09,359
» Motion carries. Okay.

1256
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:11,760
» So then we should approve the the motion

1257
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:13,680
to the consent agenda agenda and then

1258
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,359
you can move on. Yeah.

1259
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,839
» Unless somebody wants to discuss this

1260
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:19,440
some more.

1261
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:21,839
items one through three. Any more

1262
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,079
discussion?

1263
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:26,559
Okay. Um,

1264
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:28,720
so there's a motion in a second to

1265
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,839
approve the consent agenda numbers 1,

1266
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:31,680
two, and three.

1267
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:33,119
» Also, items seven and eight or I'm

1268
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,480
sorry, nine and 10. They're on the back

1269
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:38,920
of the agenda.

1270
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,920
» And nine and 10. Um,

1271
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:43,440
all in favor, please say I.

1272
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:47,520
» I.

1273
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:50,319
» Oppose, say no. Motion carries.

1274
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,079
Going to the items four through six.

1275
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:56,160
Four through eight. Now they were

1276
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:58,000
withdrawn from the consent agenda. Um

1277
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,599
is there a motion to approve them? Is

1278
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,599
there discussion?

1279
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:05,680
» Motion to approve.

1280
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:08,400
» Any second discussion? No. Mr.

1281
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,920
» Mayor, I raised this issue. We have a

1282
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,160
number of members of both fire and

1283
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,119
police and and village staff here

1284
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,599
tonight. And um

1285
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:19,359
I just wanted to uh add what uh the

1286
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:22,640
administrator said earlier, how much we

1287
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:26,000
appreciate uh all their efforts. Uh we

1288
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:28,640
actually had a uh two uh firefighters

1289
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,680
come out and do a fire inspection uh to

1290
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:34,079
back up the uh uh business license

1291
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,079
application for uh animal rescue group

1292
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:38,000
for harvest festival today. And they

1293
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:40,160
were terrific. And uh it's just

1294
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,040
emblematic of what this what this

1295
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,040
village has. And perhaps uh Melanie, you

1296
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,880
could talk about the history of where

1297
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,640
you said it's it's taken many many years

1298
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,200
to get to to this level. Yeah.

1299
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,319
» And what it really means for

1300
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,559
for our employees.

1301
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:56,640
» Yeah. So so what this means is now uh

1302
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,000
the police and fire department are at

1303
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,000
the highest level. When when they

1304
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,240
retire, they will get the maximum amount

1305
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,960
available to them. Um, so if somebody

1306
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:07,040
were to start now and they worked the

1307
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,520
the right number of years, they

1308
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:12,000
theoretically could retire on 100% of

1309
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,480
their their highest salary when when

1310
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,839
they do retire. So our our current

1311
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,839
employees who have been with us a long

1312
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:19,359
time, they they they get different

1313
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:21,119
buckets. So they get the the buckets

1314
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:22,960
that they earned when we were under, you

1315
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:25,200
know, plan one and plan two and then

1316
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,280
plan three. We're skipping plan four and

1317
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,839
now we're going to plan five. So, this

1318
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,839
this really um will take care of our our

1319
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:33,760
firefighters after they've they've

1320
00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:36,400
completed their careers here with us and

1321
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,160
and our police department. Sorry, Chief.

1322
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,599
Didn't didn't mean to forget you guys.

1323
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:46,000
Um so, police and fire. Um and also this

1324
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:48,400
this process for these five resolutions.

1325
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,119
We started this exa almost exactly a

1326
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,200
year ago. So the I was looking back at

1327
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,440
my emails last night and this kicked off

1328
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:58,640
I believe July 7th of last year with

1329
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,119
with um Deputy Chief Latin had sent an

1330
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,359
email to our PAR representative and said

1331
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:05,520
how do we start this process and we have

1332
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:06,800
multiple emails back and forth of you

1333
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,079
know this is what you need to do and

1334
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,440
then we would wait for them and this is

1335
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:12,800
what you need to do. So we would send

1336
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,400
them you know our um our drafts and then

1337
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,640
we'd have to wait a couple of weeks and

1338
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,920
then we'd get those back. So yeah, just

1339
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,640
just this portion has been a year in the

1340
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,280
making.

1341
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,559
» But this also affects uh the village

1342
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,280
employees.

1343
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:26,240
» Yes. Right.

1344
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,079
» Yep.

1345
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:31,319
» Thank you for keeping us safe. Be safe

1346
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,319
out there.

1347
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:36,240
» So yeah, they um so the the the

1348
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,200
remainder of the village employees that

1349
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:41,040
are under municipal plan two um

1350
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,640
unfortunately plan two is the highest we

1351
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,559
can go for our municipal staff. They

1352
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,559
they do offer up to plan four, but they

1353
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:48,640
locked out plans three and and four a

1354
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:50,799
long time ago before the village um had

1355
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,680
the opportunity to um take advantage of

1356
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:55,440
that for our municipal employees. So, uh

1357
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,359
what what we're doing for our municipal

1358
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,880
staff is the village is picking up a

1359
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:03,520
portion of their um their contributions.

1360
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,280
So that this will will pick up the

1361
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,240
contributions for police and fire so

1362
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,480
that they they don't pay any more into

1363
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:11,839
or they they aren't having deducted from

1364
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,920
their paycheck anymore than they

1365
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:15,280
currently are under plan three. So the

1366
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,720
village is picking up the remainder of

1367
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,119
that. And then for municipal staff,

1368
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:23,440
they're dropping from the 12 point I

1369
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:26,480
think it's 12.65%

1370
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,680
down to about 9%. And you know, and I

1371
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,119
know when you look at the resolutions,

1372
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,040
it looks weird because it says, you

1373
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:32,960
know, we're picking up 48%, but it's a

1374
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,960
percentage over a percentage. And I had

1375
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,480
to break out my math brain and go back

1376
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,240
to, you know, high school algebra and be

1377
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,400
like, okay, I'm doing a percentage of a

1378
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:41,839
percentage. And, um, we had some

1379
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,839
discussions back and forth about what

1380
00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:45,680
was the proper way to do that. So, um,

1381
00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:49,359
but yeah, no, this has been a very long

1382
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:52,880
process. And this was the the dream back

1383
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:56,079
when they very first, um, voted for PRA

1384
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,880
19 years ago. So, for and as part of

1385
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,319
many other reasons.

1386
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,839
» You hear their presence right now.

1387
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:02,799
» Yeah, exactly.

1388
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:04,720
» And I'd like to thank uh public safety,

1389
00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:07,760
too. And as I wrote in the mayor's

1390
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:10,000
report, New Mexico is number one and and

1391
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,319
u uh property crimes number two in

1392
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:16,160
violent crimes. And fortunately, Corales

1393
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:18,799
is number one probably in the state and

1394
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,640
having a good crime record and and a big

1395
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:22,400
part of that is probably our public

1396
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,920
safety, our police, and our fire

1397
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:28,720
departments. Uh, and so I think they um

1398
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:32,640
they they really make us a a place to

1399
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:34,720
live. Um, and I think doing giving them

1400
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,799
an increase in their parah helps

1401
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,920
retention. I mean, that's a big thing.

1402
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:40,480
You know, we're competing with

1403
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,520
municipalities who have more bucks than

1404
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,640
we do.

1405
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:48,079
» And to to keep our

1406
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,760
roles of public safety employees, you

1407
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:51,760
know, we have to compete somehow and

1408
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:55,839
sometimes we can't compete salary wise.

1409
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:58,079
So the PAR really helps and so I I I

1410
00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:59,760
really encourage support of this.

1411
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,359
» Yep. Thank you.

1412
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,960
» Uh councelor Mera.

1413
00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:05,119
» Thank you Mr. Mayor. Hopefully just a

1414
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,200
real quick question. Tanya on this one

1415
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:10,799
if you can go back about 20 some years

1416
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:14,480
ago maybe 30 unfortunately. Uh we had a

1417
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:16,240
perra situation and a erb uh situation

1418
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,160
in Santa Fair. Are you familiar with

1419
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,280
that a little bit?

1420
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,760
» Mayor, council administrator Romero.

1421
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,760
Yes.

1422
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,760
» Okay. Uh and you know how that one was

1423
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,520
unequal and boy they've been trying to

1424
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,960
make that equalized as representative

1425
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:33,680
over here for the last 30 years. Does

1426
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,559
this help or if not does it make it

1427
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:40,160
equal and even if do plan five and doing

1428
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:45,280
46% and the 23% will that even and make

1429
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:48,160
it equal starting from here on out? So,

1430
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:50,079
mayor, council, administrator Romero, do

1431
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,640
you mean equal to what most

1432
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:54,880
municipalities do? No.

1433
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,559
» So, you go to each other in terms of

1434
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,559
» So, there's tier one. Yeah.

1435
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:02,640
» So, to be in tier one for PAR, you had

1436
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:02,960
to be into PAR before July 1st of 2013.

1437
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,760
» Okay.

1438
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,280
» So, some of us are old enough.

1439
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,480
» I think there's three of us still left

1440
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,960
that are in tier one. And then I got two

1441
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,079
back there that are in tier two. So the

1442
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:20,079
main things that changes is tier tier

1443
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:22,720
one we we are at a 20 year retirement.

1444
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:26,319
We can go up to 100. I will remind you

1445
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:28,000
I'm blended. I'm one two three and five.

1446
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:29,520
So but people who are tier one

1447
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,799
technically can go to a 20-year

1448
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:37,200
retirement um or stay and then it builds

1449
00:59:32,799 --> 00:59:39,839
up to up to 180 100% of their top three

1450
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,920
years. two or two employees it's 25

1451
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:42,400
years and then they can build up.

1452
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,160
» Okay.

1453
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,240
» Um

1454
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,920
what we proposed when chief was doing

1455
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:54,000
this is right now fireplace we paid 13%

1456
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:55,760
of our salary to PAR what we pay you're

1457
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,760
paying

1458
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,920
20.8

1459
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:03,040
this is off the top of my head police

1460
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:07,359
pays 10% of their salary to PAR village

1461
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:09,200
staff pays 12.65 65. We proposed just to

1462
01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:12,720
keep it well, we first proposed it to

1463
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:14,960
keep it at 10 and 12.5, but we we went

1464
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:19,200
to three instead. So then we proposed to

1465
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:22,319
keep it at 12.5 or 13 and 10.5 and then

1466
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:24,960
drop the others. Um mo you can only pick

1467
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:27,119
up 75%. That is state law. State law

1468
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:30,720
says a municipality cannot pick up any

1469
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:32,640
more than 75% of the employees per so a

1470
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,359
lot of municipalities do pick up all but

1471
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,760
4%. But we knew that this is the

1472
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:40,000
village. So we said we've been doing

1473
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,599
this. We we our staff is surviving.

1474
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,839
Let's we'll do it this way.

1475
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:43,760
» Okay.

1476
01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:44,319
» And we respectfully hope you vote for

1477
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,280
it.

1478
01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:46,400
» Okay. Thank you,

1479
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,880
» Council Murray.

1480
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,440
» Yeah. So that does raise point though.

1481
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:54,799
If you hire somebody who has a number of

1482
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,799
years either one or two, does it take

1483
01:00:54,799 --> 01:00:58,559
him x number of years to get to the

1484
01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:00,960
number five or they automatically moved

1485
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:02,880
into step five?

1486
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,559
Mayor, Council, and Administrator

1487
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,720
Merrill, that's a really good question.

1488
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:09,920
I've actually done a lot of research on

1489
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,520
that recently because I've been with the

1490
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,520
village and she chief's been with

1491
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,720
village since 96. I've been here since

1492
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:19,119
97 before PAR. So, we could buy time. We

1493
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:22,640
we could buy time to retire at a lower

1494
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:25,119
rate than airtime. Um,

1495
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:28,000
but what they're going to do is they're

1496
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:30,960
going to look at how long I was at one,

1497
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:34,000
how long I was at two, how long I was at

1498
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,760
three, how long I stay at five. And

1499
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,799
there's math calculations they're going

1500
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:42,880
to do and say cuz right now for fire and

1501
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:44,799
I believe police it's 3.5 is our tier

1502
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,680
one multiplier.

1503
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:49,680
Um, they're going to look at all of us

1504
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,960
and say,

1505
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:55,920
"This is your number. You're at 2 for so

1506
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,440
long, 2.5 for so long, you're at 3.5 for

1507
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,240
so long." And they're going to multiply

1508
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,559
it together and maybe I'm 3.2. I won't

1509
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,000
know till I go sit down with PAR. But

1510
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:06,640
they they are going to blend it. So the

1511
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:10,160
longer I'm in PAR 5, the better it is.

1512
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:12,240
But for chief trying to build so when we

1513
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,160
all retire that you have staff that have

1514
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,480
been here and want to continue serving

1515
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,400
the public in the way that we've grown

1516
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:21,680
accustomed to.

1517
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,319
They will be not blended.

1518
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,359
» Thank you.

1519
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:28,599
» Okay. Any other questions or discussion

1520
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:28,599
on this?

1521
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:33,680
Are we prepared? Go ahead.

1522
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:35,200
» Move approval.

1523
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,839
» Okay. Uh second.

1524
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,839
» Second.

1525
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,119
Okay. Are are we are we including four

1526
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,119
through eight then?

1527
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,960
» Yes. Okay. Why you make a motion then?

1528
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:48,240
» Just as a a generic point of order

1529
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,400
because we pulled them from the consent

1530
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:53,280
agenda. We have to go through them one

1531
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,880
by one. I I apologize for that but it is

1532
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,960
the way it has to be. Thank you.

1533
01:02:54,880 --> 01:03:00,000
» You're the worst. [laughter]

1534
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,119
» In that case I I move approval for item

1535
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,400
number four.

1536
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:05,200
» Second.

1537
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,920
» Any discussion? All in favor, please say

1538
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,400
I. I. Roll call vote because it's a

1539
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,160
recipe.

1540
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,960
It's going to take a little roll call.

1541
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Councelor Mera.

1542
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,160
» Yes, sir.

1543
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,480
» Councelor Wman.

1544
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,599
» Hi.

1545
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,400
» Councelor Knight. Hi.

1546
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:16,720
» Councelor Bouquet.

1547
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,520
» Hi.

1548
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,353
» Councilor Murray.

1549
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,880
» Yes. Four times.

1550
01:03:20,353 --> 01:03:22,559
[laughter]

1551
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,119
» Nice try.

1552
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:25,760
» Can I have a motion to approve item

1553
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:27,680
number five?

1554
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,119
» Approve item five.

1555
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,520
» Any second?

1556
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,520
» Any discussion?

1557
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,559
Um, so we'll call for a roll call vote.

1558
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,119
Councelor Mera.

1559
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,079
» Yes, sir.

1560
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,839
» Councelor Wman, hi.

1561
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:40,240
» Councelor Knight. Councelor Bet.

1562
01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:41,119
» Hi.

1563
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,160
» Councelor Murray.

1564
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:44,799
» Yes.

1565
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:49,760
» Good. Motion carries. Um, I have a

1566
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:53,640
motion to approve item number six and

1567
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,640
» Second. We'll give it tonight.

1568
01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:00,000
» I'll second that.

1569
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:02,160
» Okay. Any discussion?

1570
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,160
All in favor, please say I.

1571
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,160
» No.

1572
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,880
» Councelor Mley,

1573
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,839
» Yes.

1574
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,960
» Councelor Mette,

1575
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:10,000
» I councelor N.

1576
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,799
» Councelor Wman. Hi.

1577
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,640
» Councelor Mera.

1578
01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:14,960
» Yes, sir.

1579
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,599
» Uh, item number six. May I have a motion

1580
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,119
to approve item number six?

1581
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:20,400
» Item seven, I think.

1582
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:21,440
» Item seven, I'm sorry.

1583
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,480
» So, move.

1584
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,920
» Second.

1585
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:27,599
» Uh, any discussion?

1586
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,000
Roll call vote. Councelor Mera.

1587
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:28,720
» Yes, sir.

1588
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,760
» Councelor Wman.

1589
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,079
» Hi. Councelor Knight.

1590
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,960
» Hi.

1591
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:31,359
» Councelor Bquette.

1592
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,160
» I.

1593
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:32,960
» Councelor Murray.

1594
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,720
» Yes.

1595
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,760
» I have a motion to approve item number

1596
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,640
eight. Now

1597
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,079
» So move.

1598
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,160
» Second.

1599
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,839
» Any discussion?

1600
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,079
» Roll call vote. Councelor Murray.

1601
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:42,960
» Yes.

1602
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:43,280
» Councelor Burquette.

1603
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,400
» I.

1604
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,119
» Councelor Knight.

1605
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,520
» Councelor Wman.

1606
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:46,400
» Hi.

1607
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,039
» Councelor Mera.

1608
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,079
» Yes, sir.

1609
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:52,880
» Motion carries. So items four through

1610
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:57,000
eight all were approved. Uh Chief, you

1611
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,000
want to say a few words?

1612
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:07,680
Mayor, council, administrator. Um, just

1613
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:09,359
want to say thank you. Um, I'm looking

1614
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,000
up here at the pictures of the mayors

1615
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:14,400
and stuff and I heard a word earlier

1616
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:17,039
about persistence and I could tell you

1617
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,039
that from I wasn't always, you know,

1618
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:21,280
chief at the time, but we've always been

1619
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:22,640
an advocate for our staff and employees.

1620
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:26,240
when I became chief, I've been

1621
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:29,359
persistent uh to the point of, you know,

1622
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:32,079
every budget we have to look at, you

1623
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:34,559
know, do we do a cost of living or can

1624
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:37,280
we increase our our costs or employees

1625
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:39,359
wages and it was almost like even and

1626
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,839
odd years and then the odd years were

1627
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:45,359
like how can we try to justify pay so

1628
01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:47,760
it's literally 19 years in the making

1629
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:49,680
and I just want to mayor thank you for

1630
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,520
you know our budget meetings and and

1631
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,760
hearing us out the police chiefs behind

1632
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,359
me here. Uh I'm speaking on behalf of

1633
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:58,960
the fire department, but this is huge

1634
01:05:55,359 --> 01:06:00,720
for us as far as my staff here for me

1635
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,440
all the time. Thank you and what a good

1636
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,920
job they're doing. But tonight by with

1637
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,160
your vote, you're showing not only the

1638
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,000
staff of the village, your employees

1639
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,920
that serve this community how much you

1640
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,160
appreciate that. So, thank you.

1641
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,160
» Thank you.

1642
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,880
Castle. Uh I echo what the fire chief

1643
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:23,920
said. Just thank you and we are

1644
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,440
confident it's going to help with

1645
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,000
recruitment and retention which has been

1646
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,319
a battle for us uh competing with these

1647
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,160
large agencies in the metro area here

1648
01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:34,559
and uh may have already worked. We have

1649
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,079
a guy starting with us on Tuesday and we

1650
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:37,520
told him it wasn't a done deal yet but

1651
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:38,960
this was one of the selling points. So

1652
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,520
thank you very much.

1653
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,520
» Thank you very much.

1654
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:45,920
Mayor, what question? Good.

1655
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,319
» Yes, councelor Mur.

1656
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,079
» Could both uh the chiefs uh tell us

1657
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:51,680
where your staffing levels are at right

1658
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:55,039
now?

1659
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:58,319
» We are at uh will be Tuesday at 16 out

1660
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:00,960
of 17 sworn positions. So that's the 6%

1661
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:03,440
uh vacancy rate and we have another

1662
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,920
applicant who is certified in the

1663
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,400
background phase right now. If we do

1664
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,000
reach full staffing, the 17 out of 17

1665
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,240
budgeted positions, it'll be the first

1666
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,640
time since 2021,

1667
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,640
at which time we were only budgeted 15

1668
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,119
positions. When we when we got bumped up

1669
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,640
to 16 and then to 17, we never reached

1670
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,280
the maximum number.

1671
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,760
» Thank you, Chief.

1672
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,760
» So, thank you.

1673
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,720
» I apologize. I didn't hear the question.

1674
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,160
» I was just wondering where your current

1675
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,960
staffing levels at. or how many

1676
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:37,359
positions are open or full staff or

1677
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,079
» Mayor, council, we're at full staff. Uh

1678
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:41,839
we have we have hired uh our our

1679
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:43,440
vacancies have been filled. So we're

1680
01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:45,920
currently in the process of training

1681
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,599
them. We started last week. Uh this is

1682
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,760
the second week in training and we're

1683
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:51,440
doing we're starting with uh internal

1684
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,839
trainings with wildland. focus on

1685
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,240
wildland fire that we could do in house.

1686
01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:59,520
And then we're actively looking for uh

1687
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:02,640
EMT classes availability and then of

1688
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,319
course the fire one, fire two uh

1689
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,960
certifications through the state of New

1690
01:08:04,319 --> 01:08:07,760
Mexico at the Sakura Academy.

1691
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,799
» Thank you very much, G.

1692
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,960
» Yeah, thank you.

1693
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:11,960
» Thank you.

1694
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,719
Uh, next item, old business number one,

1695
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:23,440
consideration, action, and approval of

1696
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:26,960
resolution 2615,

1697
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:29,359
publication for ordinance 2602, an

1698
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,920
ordinance providing no parking areas

1699
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:34,400
along residential streets, neighboring

1700
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:37,440
commercial establishments. Uh, may I

1701
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,400
have a motion to open this up?

1702
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:40,080
» So move.

1703
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,000
» Second.

1704
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,159
Okay, there's been a motion to second.

1705
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,359
Any discussion?

1706
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:48,080
Yes, Councelor Murray.

1707
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:50,640
» Thank you, Mayor. So, uh, in looking at

1708
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:53,359
this draft, I have come to the

1709
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:56,080
conclusion that the parking ordinance

1710
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:58,560
does not belong in zoning. I believe it

1711
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:02,880
belongs somewhere either in 1492, which

1712
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:05,359
is the I think the uh current legal or

1713
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:08,000
where things are cited, but it needs a

1714
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:10,159
little bit of work. Uh, I'm not totally

1715
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,520
agree. I mean, I don't totally disagree

1716
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:13,440
with all the language, but I think it

1717
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:17,520
just needs to be reorganized and put

1718
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:20,640
into 1492 rather than under 1839.

1719
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:24,080
Also, uh there are concerns I have about

1720
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:26,719
the uh changing the seating ordinance

1721
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:29,440
because there are some issues there that

1722
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:32,080
uh we haven't addressed. That is that

1723
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:34,960
one, you're asking to amend the seating

1724
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,920
ordinance and not repeal the previous

1725
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:40,000
one. So either we need to repeal the old

1726
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,920
ordinance and insert this one as new

1727
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,520
language because if we don't we're going

1728
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,600
to have confliction because you've got

1729
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:48,080
an old ordinance and a new ordinance and

1730
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,159
there's conflicting uh components of

1731
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,040
both if you have both of them at the

1732
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:56,719
same time. So I think we need to repeal

1733
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:58,560
the original 1839 C2 and then insert the

1734
01:09:56,719 --> 01:10:02,080
new language at that point. You also

1735
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:04,640
need to grandfather in the existing STPs

1736
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:07,040
because if you don't, then if somebody

1737
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:09,120
asks an amended STP, they're going to

1738
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,679
have to come in under the new language.

1739
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,960
And is that fair for our businesses that

1740
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:16,800
if they have to want to amend their SDP

1741
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,280
that now they have to comply with the

1742
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,199
new seating ordinance and the parking

1743
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,360
versus the old one that they originally

1744
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:26,159
got their uh site development plan

1745
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:29,440
under? So, there are some things there I

1746
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:30,960
think need to be addressed. I I know

1747
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:32,560
this. I worked on this about all

1748
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:35,840
afternoon trying to figure out how to

1749
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:38,400
reorganize this and it's and councelor

1750
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,518
Bquerette will kill me because I got 14

1751
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,920
different amendments that I need.

1752
01:10:40,518 --> 01:10:43,760
[laughter]

1753
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,960
He's going to murder me. Step out the

1754
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,040
door, you know.

1755
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:50,400
» But I I just really think that we need

1756
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,800
to readress this and move it into 1492

1757
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:55,440
or some other location where it is now

1758
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:58,080
an enforcement issue and not a zoning

1759
01:10:55,440 --> 01:11:00,719
issue. A question might be, you know, do

1760
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,080
you think there they're different issues

1761
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:04,000
and they ought to be addressed different

1762
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,960
issues instead of lumped together all in

1763
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:09,600
one uh ordinance. That does bring up the

1764
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:12,560
question about we were putting one uh we

1765
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:14,880
were creating a paragraph 15 that was to

1766
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,560
go in under 1492

1767
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:19,440
and I think we just need to create a new

1768
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:21,520
subsection that deals with enforcement

1769
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:23,920
and that way it doesn't there was an

1770
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,080
issue where you might have an officer

1771
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,600
who might site somebody and then he

1772
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,480
could have his vehicle towed at the same

1773
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,000
time. Now is that correct? I don't know,

1774
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,840
but I think we need to take a look at

1775
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,120
that and just uh I think there are

1776
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,719
things there that we just need to

1777
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,800
resolve before we put this into an

1778
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:39,600
ordinance.

1779
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,040
» Briquette.

1780
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:45,600
» Uh thank you, mayor. Um so two kind of

1781
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:47,199
separate points or thoughts. One is on

1782
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,719
this what you're talking about as far as

1783
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:52,800
the

1784
01:11:48,719 --> 01:11:54,719
um parking per two chairs. Um I don't

1785
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,960
think it I don't think it's a reasonable

1786
01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:58,800
number. Um, I went to two of our

1787
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,560
probably most reputable establishments

1788
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,000
in town. From a parking standpoint, I've

1789
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,640
never heard a single complaint about

1790
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:08,080
overflow parking. Um, one of them has a

1791
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:10,880
100 seats and 25 parking spots. Um, the

1792
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:13,040
other one has 70 parking spots and they

1793
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,800
have I didn't go inside this place, but

1794
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:18,080
they have in my mind probably close to

1795
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:20,800
200 seats. Um

1796
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,320
there is no way that if they were to try

1797
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,600
to come into the village and again these

1798
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,040
are model citizens, model businesses,

1799
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,719
there is no way they could come into the

1800
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:32,000
village and meet these criteria. Um so I

1801
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:36,000
just don't think it's a reasonable

1802
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,960
number. um on a grander scale um and I

1803
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,320
actually think this is a very

1804
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,000
well-ritten policy and I think it's

1805
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,640
something we may have to go to but I

1806
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,239
would love to see I mean I think there's

1807
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,280
these spectrums that we have to look at

1808
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:48,320
when we're looking at all of our

1809
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:50,320
policies friendly unfriendly using

1810
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:52,719
resources that we have now versus going

1811
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,360
to get new resources uh unintended

1812
01:12:52,719 --> 01:12:56,800
consequences versus limited unintended

1813
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,640
consequences and I think we have to have

1814
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,080
the desire to do the stuff on the left

1815
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,239
left side of the spectrum whenever

1816
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,880
possible uh and probably an obligation

1817
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:06,320
to do that. And we have empty lots in

1818
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,080
the village that we're doing site

1819
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,560
development plans on that I would like

1820
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:13,679
to see those site development plans

1821
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:17,120
happen prior to us enacting anything uh

1822
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:19,679
new on parking with parking on those and

1823
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,360
with signs that say village parking so

1824
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:23,840
we can see if that relieves the parking

1825
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,440
pressure because even if it relieves it

1826
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,199
75% then maybe we need a different

1827
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:30,080
version of this. But if we have empty

1828
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:31,600
lots sitting next to businesses and I

1829
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,719
feel like we owe the citizens, we owe

1830
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,320
the businesses um a solution and it's

1831
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:37,520
sitting right there with really limited

1832
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,080
stuff and we're working on these site

1833
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,600
developments already that um we're not

1834
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,440
doing our job if we're not putting

1835
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,000
parking on some of those and giving

1836
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:49,199
people a friendly an option without

1837
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,800
unintended consequences um to solve this

1838
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:52,800
problem before we put up signs all over

1839
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,719
the village. So, I would move that if we

1840
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,120
do move this thing forward, I'm going to

1841
01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:58,640
want to amend it to where we don't do so

1842
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,880
until we have those site development

1843
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:04,640
plans with parking in place and we see

1844
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:08,480
if that solves the problem.

1845
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,239
I'd like to bring up an issue too of um

1846
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:12,159
uh

1847
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:15,440
couple things that weren't addressed in

1848
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:17,840
in this version uh had that have been

1849
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:20,880
brought up before is where do you have

1850
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:24,880
the signs? What do the signs mean? Um,

1851
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:27,760
and also if council bur wants to hold a

1852
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,679
barbecue party at his home, uh, where

1853
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:33,280
can those people park? Uh, this

1854
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:35,040
ordinance doesn't allow that. Um,

1855
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:40,080
I'll just throw something out just just

1856
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:42,159
for, you know, discussion. um that maybe

1857
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:46,880
um talking about the neighbor commercial

1858
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:49,760
zone uh you have a sign no park

1859
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:52,800
residents parking only coming into the

1860
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:55,600
street from Corales and 300 ft back you

1861
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:58,480
have another sign that addresses the

1862
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:01,440
traffic coming into so you have incoming

1863
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:03,199
traffic on that residential road you

1864
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,840
have no parking signs between those

1865
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:08,239
signs coming in from Carales Road and

1866
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:11,360
coming in from interior drains. Say

1867
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:16,400
there'll be a new no parking uh sign 350

1868
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:20,080
ft deep uh along that road. Uh another

1869
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:22,719
another issue is is um you know uh

1870
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,960
having

1871
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:28,159
uh council burst barbecue party or

1872
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:30,560
anybody else's um you know I wonder

1873
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:35,760
whether there should be an allowance for

1874
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:37,360
guests of of a resident and um I think

1875
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,239
it's really simple and actually this

1876
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:42,960
afternoon I I mocked up a

1877
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:46,400
a little sign here

1878
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:49,840
and something like This can be put on

1879
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:54,000
the dashboard of the car and basically

1880
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:56,000
it says guest. You're a guest of a

1881
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:59,120
resident who lives there. The resident's

1882
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:01,840
address is here right below guest. So if

1883
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,920
anybody has a question who is the host

1884
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:07,199
of the guest, the address is right

1885
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:10,719
there. There's a permit number.

1886
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:13,679
the car uh Ford 250 truck white license

1887
01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:17,120
plate number and the days and and it's

1888
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:19,840
just you know half a dozen data points

1889
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:24,960
and it allows for people to have guests

1890
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:26,800
at their place um parties graduations um

1891
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:30,560
you know so it's not no parking no

1892
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:33,120
parking is simple but yet it seems to

1893
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:36,719
have allowance for guests would be

1894
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:38,960
reasonable I know that Um I and Melanie

1895
01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:42,560
have looked into several possibilities

1896
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:44,159
of either doing this online. Um maybe

1897
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,840
through the website that we currently

1898
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:50,480
have or using a separate vendor links to

1899
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:53,440
the website and or you know a very

1900
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:55,760
simple thing is uh a resident can just

1901
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:58,000
write this out. I mean it's just the

1902
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,239
number of data is very small. It's a

1903
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:03,040
guest. It's got my address there. If

1904
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:06,159
anybody has a question there's my

1905
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:08,480
address. I'm home. The the license plate

1906
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:12,000
number, the descriptor of the car, and

1907
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:14,880
the date. I mean, that it's just I I

1908
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,880
think it it's an easy way to accommodate

1909
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:19,440
having guests. So, I think just to throw

1910
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,360
that in the mix of as we discussed a no

1911
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:23,600
parking ordinance, uh there a lot of

1912
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,560
different components of this where there

1913
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:29,679
you know go to seating um number of

1914
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:32,960
parking places per seats, tables, that

1915
01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:37,199
sort of stuff. um uh no parking on

1916
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:38,719
residential streets. Uh I think one or

1917
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:40,560
two things that have been brought up is

1918
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:42,880
you know where the science place and

1919
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,280
what about gas and and I think I just

1920
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:48,080
like to throw this out to add to the

1921
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:52,000
discussion of you know how we how we

1922
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:54,239
design uh a no parking in uh residential

1923
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,640
areas uh ordinance. Yes, councelor

1924
01:17:54,239 --> 01:17:58,480
Murray. Well, so to add to that, my son

1925
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,960
lives up around the wheel Wilshire in

1926
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:03,520
Jefferson and during Bloomfest, they

1927
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:05,199
close off Jefferson, but they have a

1928
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,440
placard that gets issued by the Bloom

1929
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:08,880
Festa. Basically just says gives them

1930
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:11,440
permission as long as you got that

1931
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,360
placard in your windshield, you're

1932
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:15,600
allowed into the area. It it doesn't

1933
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,000
require any

1934
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,679
addresses, doesn't require any uh

1935
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,280
information about the car, but as long

1936
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:23,040
as you got that placard, you're allowed

1937
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,960
into that area. That's that's all we

1938
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,239
have to do. We could even include just

1939
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:30,159
say dates, you know, three days or

1940
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:32,320
whatever it is, date one, you know, it

1941
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:33,760
could be June 1st through June 3rd. I

1942
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,520
think that would probably cover it, but

1943
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,840
that'd be myology.

1944
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,760
» Um, if if I may, mayor and council, um,

1945
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,920
I I have been looking into different

1946
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,159
solutions for this. Um, we we did ask

1947
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:47,199
our attorneys to weigh in on, you know,

1948
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:50,400
the the legality of residential parking

1949
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:53,679
only. and their recommendation is that,

1950
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:55,040
you know, from a a legal perspective, we

1951
01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:58,000
should have some sort of permitting

1952
01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:01,360
process. And so I've I've have had two

1953
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:06,480
meetings so far. Um, one with a company

1954
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:10,080
called um Shau, and they they do um

1955
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:12,560
sort of a uh build from scratch parking

1956
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:16,400
solution. And so they they would be able

1957
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:18,480
to create a a website, a app, whatever

1958
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,320
we want that would be able to do these

1959
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:23,360
parking permits where people could to do

1960
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:27,199
could register for them online. However,

1961
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:29,440
it would take up to 6 months and $60,000

1962
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:32,480
to do that. Yesterday, I had a meeting

1963
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:34,640
with a company called Honk, um which you

1964
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:36,640
know, it's just it's kind of fun to say.

1965
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,880
um their recommendation when I explained

1966
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:41,360
what the situation was is the guy's

1967
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,440
first question was do you have public

1968
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,800
parking available somewhere in the

1969
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,880
village. So that was his first

1970
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:50,719
recommendation. Um second recommendation

1971
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,719
is they can do something for us but um

1972
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:54,800
the way their app works is you have to

1973
01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:56,960
have paid parking and that's how the the

1974
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,960
app gets paid for. So, we would we would

1975
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,360
then have to we we could do a solution

1976
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,800
where if a resident could prove that

1977
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,159
they live in the village, they would

1978
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,600
have to pro provide their car

1979
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:07,760
registration, which I don't know that

1980
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,199
anybody would want to do, but they would

1981
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,560
have to prove somehow that they're a

1982
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:13,760
resident of the village and then they

1983
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:16,239
could have free parking. Um but then I

1984
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,920
have another um another meeting

1985
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:19,760
scheduled for tomorrow. So, that's just

1986
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:22,159
sort of what I'm learning so far. So,

1987
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:25,120
there are options to be able to do this

1988
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:26,560
this sort of thing. Um, but it just

1989
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,040
depends on how much we want to pay for

1990
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:27,760
it.

1991
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,520
» That's so nice.

1992
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:34,560
» Thank you, mayor. I think

1993
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:36,400
it's it's too much rigor. If you live up

1994
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,679
in the sand hills, just go to your

1995
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,920
neighbor and say, "I'm having a party

1996
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:42,000
tonight. There's going to be more cars

1997
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:45,280
on the street." If it's only for like

1998
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:48,480
one day for four hours, I don't think

1999
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:50,719
most people would argue with that. I I

2000
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:52,800
think they having to go and get signs

2001
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:54,800
and and permits, it's going to be a

2002
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,120
mess. and people aren't going to like it

2003
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,360
because it's extra work.

2004
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,199
» Um, you know, down in the commercial

2005
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,520
district's a little different, but you

2006
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:05,440
know, up where I live, right?

2007
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,960
» You know, things like that, you just go

2008
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:09,120
to your neighbor and say, "Yeah, you can

2009
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,400
park there for a couple hours. It's it's

2010
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,560
no big deal."

2011
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,080
» Right. This was what I said was just

2012
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,159
pertains to the neighborhood commercial

2013
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:18,320
area, not the Sand Hills.

2014
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:20,480
» Okay. So So this you're only talking

2015
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,239
about the the

2016
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:27,080
» Neighborhood commercial zone. Oh,

2017
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:27,080
» This Lori would like to

2018
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:34,880
» Other people. Okay,

2019
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:37,840
» Counselors, mayor, administrator, if if

2020
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:40,000
I might. Um,

2021
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:43,120
we're we're not going to cover the

2022
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:45,040
village with signs. Let me just read and

2023
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:48,000
kind of tell you what the intent was

2024
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,440
when planning and zoning uh and I were

2025
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,320
talking about this, the commission

2026
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:54,719
rather. Um,

2027
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,560
it's section 1839 off- streetet parking

2028
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:59,360
requirements. That that section already

2029
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:02,080
exists and people who have commercial

2030
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,639
site development plan applications are

2031
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:07,199
referred to that section. And so what it

2032
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:10,560
would now say commercial parking on

2033
01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:13,679
residential streets upon notice by code

2034
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,920
enforcement or when warranted by ongoing

2035
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:19,280
public safety concerns. So, we're

2036
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,960
talking about ongoing chronic issues

2037
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:24,400
really having to do with commercial

2038
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,679
parking um and residential streets. In

2039
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,840
those instances, the village

2040
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:29,679
administrator may direct that any part

2041
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,480
of a residential street be posted with

2042
01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:35,840
signs reading no parking.

2043
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:38,560
This will be used judiciously and in a

2044
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,280
limited fast fashion. Um, Carllis PD

2045
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:45,280
will have their full discretion as to

2046
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:46,800
how to handle a situation. Um,

2047
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:49,120
I I just want to assure you that it's

2048
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,199
it's really a limited scope. We're we're

2049
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:54,239
not talking about the neighborhood

2050
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:56,719
barbecue or oneoffs. We're talking about

2051
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:58,960
chronic ongoing issues. If there was a

2052
01:22:56,719 --> 01:23:01,280
neighborhood that had some sort of

2053
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,199
chronic ongoing issue with a say a home

2054
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,600
occupation, it might be suitable in that

2055
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:07,440
case. But again, it would have to be

2056
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:10,880
upon notice by the code enforcement

2057
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:12,800
officer or EMS that there's there's this

2058
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,480
issue and it won't it won't quit and we

2059
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:17,120
need to look at it there and then the

2060
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:18,639
administrator would have to agree. So, I

2061
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:22,080
just want to assure you it's not going

2062
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:24,960
to be blanketing the village with signs.

2063
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,239
Actually there uh there are five uh

2064
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,880
persons from the public who would like

2065
01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:30,719
to speak. So why don't we just interject

2066
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,920
that now and then we can discuss more

2067
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:37,639
afterwards. So um Mandy

2068
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,639
» Sandy Rasmusen

2069
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:45,360
» Sandy Rasmusen 65 Target Road I'm going

2070
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:48,639
to put this in my mouth because it's the

2071
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:50,320
only way it works. So, I am not going to

2072
01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:53,040
dispute the parking thing, although you

2073
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:55,199
all had good ideas, but I just would

2074
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,920
like to bring forth the idea that if

2075
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:59,840
we're not going to allow parking on side

2076
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,880
streets, that we need to provide

2077
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:06,239
alternatives. Um, I'd like to see both

2078
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:08,560
the Anderson and the Gonzalez Field have

2079
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:10,719
parking spaces. Anderson can cover

2080
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:13,920
Heritage House or whatever it's called,

2081
01:24:10,719 --> 01:24:17,360
and the rec center. Um but down where

2082
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:19,600
the meat of the traffic is, Gonzalez is

2083
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,280
a necessary thing. So just think about

2084
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:24,239
this. But many of them you've already

2085
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:26,320
said, um but we have many residents that

2086
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:28,560
do not live,

2087
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:31,440
they live in the sand hills up there.

2088
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:34,320
They can't walk down to support our

2089
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:36,719
village or come and enjoy it. We have an

2090
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:39,360
aging population that may not be able to

2091
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:42,880
walk very far. We have very little

2092
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:46,639
parking for Lra Park. that is

2093
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:48,560
not private property. Um, and we seem to

2094
01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:50,320
forget that the rural feeling we are all

2095
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,320
trying to sustain doesn't have

2096
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:55,199
sidewalks, which none of us, including

2097
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,840
me, do not want to see, but walking long

2098
01:24:55,199 --> 01:25:00,320
distance is not always practical. That

2099
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,760
our rural field can be sustained and

2100
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,360
still include those that are not

2101
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,679
residents.

2102
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,760
And since we don't have a plan yet

2103
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:10,480
except for bathrooms for the Gonzalez

2104
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,080
Field, um if we even could put temporary

2105
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:13,360
parking there and see how that works

2106
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,239
because that was kind of what was

2107
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,760
mentioned by a lot of you. But and this

2108
01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:20,159
doesn't necessarily have to do with

2109
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:22,560
parking, but it is part of the problem.

2110
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:24,560
So the saddest thing of all is that we

2111
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,560
used to be a village that supported each

2112
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,480
other. If we had an issue, we went and

2113
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,960
talked to our neighbor. We didn't come

2114
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:33,199
and make an ordinance. And all this

2115
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,679
bickering I feel is dividing us and

2116
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:38,080
that's changing the feel of our village

2117
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:40,239
way more than any outsiders. There are

2118
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:44,080
many people in this room who are

2119
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:46,719
coralenos also and we really do care

2120
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,560
about our village. So I hope that we can

2121
01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:51,280
start to work together again and be the

2122
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:54,000
village that we used to be. Thank you.

2123
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:56,239
» Thank you. Next

2124
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:59,639
» Bob Ike.

2125
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:59,639
Bob Ike,

2126
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:12,040
Bob, I of course live in Corales. Uh

2127
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:17,520
we can't have any loopholes.

2128
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:20,639
Every ordinance that's being written has

2129
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,400
a loophole in it. How many signs is it?

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01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:24,639
One be one sign from here all the way to

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,159
Lrada. No, you can't stop all that

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01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:28,159
parking.

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01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,480
Is it between signs? It's got to be

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01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:31,920
spelled out. You cannot put in the

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01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:33,760
ordinance that it will be done

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01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,520
judiciously.

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01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,440
That doesn't work. Who in the heck's

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01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,639
judicious?

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01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:43,360
You have to spell out each particular

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01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:45,360
that you want to control.

2141
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:48,880
As soon as you start saying we can put

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:51,360
signs here and there and in between,

2143
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,719
you've destroyed the village.

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01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,520
And that's not what we're here for.

2145
01:26:52,719 --> 01:26:57,120
We're here to protect the village.

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01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,280
So be careful with your signs. Be

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,040
careful with your ordinance. No

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:04,239
loopholes.

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01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:06,239
It and indeference said it cannot be

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01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:08,080
done judiciously.

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01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:09,920
If we change administrators, we change

2152
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:12,320
P&Z,

2153
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,159
what's the next person going to do?

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01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:17,920
That's what you can't allow for. You

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01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:20,320
can't allow for an unknown. So

2156
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:23,920
everything has to be spelled out. It has

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:25,199
to be it has to be clear as you can get

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01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,800
or else there's going to be people like

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01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:29,280
me that'll come up here and find holes

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:31,520
in it and complain.

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01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:34,880
So,

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01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:39,040
just be very careful. We don't need

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:41,199
permits. Uh Fred sign is great. If you

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01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,120
have to have colored paper makes a damn

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01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:44,960
good permit.

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01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,360
It damn sure doesn't cost 60,000 bucks

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01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:53,679
or 6,000 bucks. Colored paper is pretty

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01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:55,440
cheap. But no, let's be very careful and

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01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:59,199
I don't mind stepping on toes. I do it

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01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:59,920
all the time. But don't stomp on them.

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01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:02,320
» Thank you.

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01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:06,600
» Thank you. Next, Mandy.

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01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,600
» Um, Charles Polling.

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01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:13,040
» Hi, Charles Polling on Priestly Road.

2175
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:15,040
Um, feels like deja vu talking to you

2176
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,360
all about parking again. We've done this

2177
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,040
before. Um, and and this conversation

2178
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,639
sort of tore up. high talking points I

2179
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,199
think because I see you know there's

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01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:25,600
maybe a new direction here but so what I

2181
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:27,600
would ask so we live on Priestley uh

2182
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,480
Priestly and Corval get overflow parking

2183
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,560
from the herited house still okay you

2184
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:34,159
know it still happens there's public

2185
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,239
parking right across the street at the

2186
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:38,800
farmers market people don't use it it's

2187
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:40,480
too far and that's a tough crosswalk and

2188
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,560
the crosswalk issue brings up the safety

2189
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:44,639
issue which is that when people are

2190
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,400
parking along Priestley uh if you're

2191
01:28:44,639 --> 01:28:48,320
trying to get out it's a choke point

2192
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,600
there with cars on both sides If you're

2193
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,080
trying to be a pedestrian through that,

2194
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,719
good luck. And we also have cars, you

2195
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:57,199
know, the turn into Priestley and Corval

2196
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:59,520
going northbound is a little bit of a

2197
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:01,679
blind turn on Priestley. We have the

2198
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,600
mailboxes right out near the Corrow Road

2199
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:05,440
intersection. You've got cars kind of

2200
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,679
parked on the road. It's just not a good

2201
01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:09,920
situation. So, I just ask for science. I

2202
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:11,920
ask you to solve the problem. And I

2203
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,679
think exemp exemptions can be done. And

2204
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,360
I think it's it's it's just really not

2205
01:29:13,679 --> 01:29:16,960
accurate to say, "Oh, it's got to be all

2206
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,520
or nothing." Because, you know, you

2207
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:21,120
exempt utility com utility workers when

2208
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,560
they're working on the roadside or a

2209
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,080
tree company. They put cones up. There

2210
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,159
are ways to handle this. You let the

2211
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,760
police know um you can handle the

2212
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:29,520
exemption. And of course, we are only

2213
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,040
talking about the commercial district.

2214
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,719
And right now, I think we all know the

2215
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,880
problem streets are Corval, Priestley,

2216
01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:36,560
and East and West L. And they just get a

2217
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,080
lot of overflow. And and you know, you

2218
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,600
can't control what the public does

2219
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,600
unless you have signs that tell them

2220
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,520
what to do. Thanks.

2221
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,040
Mayor, can I add one comment to

2222
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,639
something? So, I think the distance to

2223
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,480
the parking lot is maybe a contributing

2224
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:51,120
factor, but the fact that the village

2225
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:53,520
wants to charge Heritage House to tell

2226
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,679
their patrons to use a public parking

2227
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,920
lot is another thing. They would put

2228
01:29:55,679 --> 01:29:59,920
signs up. If there was a sign that said

2229
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,679
free public parking directly across the

2230
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:03,440
street and everyone saw that, the

2231
01:30:01,679 --> 01:30:05,199
distance wouldn't be as big of a deal.

2232
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:07,360
But Heritage House is being told they

2233
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:09,520
can't use that parking lot unless they

2234
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:14,960
rent it from us. And that's nonsense.

2235
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:17,679
No, it's I I I I mean, you know, people

2236
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:21,440
can park the municipal lot, you know,

2237
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:23,840
they can park at the bank and

2238
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:26,080
uh it's not that they can park there,

2239
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:28,800
they can't rent it. Uh they can park

2240
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:30,000
there. I mean, I maybe I'm naive, but

2241
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,880
» And they put up a sign that says

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01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,679
parking,

2243
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:37,360
» But I I think that if Heritage Charge

2244
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:40,080
House wants to have that lot exclusively

2245
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,920
for itself, then it pays then it pays a

2246
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:45,040
fee, whatever it is, 10 bucks an hour or

2247
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:47,760
something, which is not much, but if if

2248
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:51,199
someone wants payment of the heritage

2249
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:54,320
house wants to use it, hey, you know, uh

2250
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:56,239
I that that that's my park here. taking

2251
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,920
part of the bank.

2252
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:59,440
» Yes, council Mary.

2253
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,920
» So, this also brings up a good point

2254
01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:05,360
that council Burkehead is addressing

2255
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:08,639
too. It is unsafe to cross Grow Road

2256
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:11,040
from the rec center to the Heritage

2257
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:13,920
House. We've been after DOT.

2258
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:16,159
» Oh, sorry.

2259
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,360
» Appreciate that.

2260
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:18,960
» Thank you, Daddy.

2261
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,320
» See, you thought I was upset. She was

2262
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,880
really upset with how wordy you were

2263
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,440
last meeting.

2264
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:25,840
» It's a coincidence. Sorry.

2265
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:28,880
» But the point is we've been after DOT

2266
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:31,360
for a a lighted crosswalk at that point

2267
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:34,239
» And at night uh when they were having an

2268
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:36,320
event getting across crossroad safety. I

2269
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:38,159
mean we've got flags there but they are

2270
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,239
not very good at night.

2271
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:40,880
» And I think it's a safety issue as well.

2272
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:43,120
» Y

2273
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,960
» So that that's paramount if we're going

2274
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,880
to allow them to use the rec center.

2275
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,280
We're going to we're going to be liable

2276
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:51,440
somewhere on this hook if somebody gets

2277
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:54,000
killed crossing that road. Why don't we

2278
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:55,760
let the two public people who would who

2279
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,679
signed up to speak speak and then we can

2280
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,159
discuss it further. Uh who's next?

2281
01:31:57,679 --> 01:32:01,639
Mandy.

2282
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:01,639
» Troy Howard.

2283
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:10,719
» Hi Troy Howard. I live in Corales. Uh,

2284
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:14,719
dear mayor and members of village

2285
01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:16,639
council, I am reading regarding writing

2286
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:18,400
this uh, regarding the proposed

2287
01:32:16,639 --> 01:32:20,800
restrictions on the parking along

2288
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:22,639
village rightaways. As a business owner,

2289
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,480
I respectfully ask that the village

2290
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:26,960
carefully consider the impact these

2291
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:30,080
changes may have on local businesses and

2292
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,920
restaurants uh, residents they serve.

2293
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:34,320
Many businesses have invested

2294
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:36,239
significant time and resources based on

2295
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,000
the current parking conditions.

2296
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:40,400
Restricting parking without adequate

2297
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,800
alternatives could reduce customers

2298
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:45,040
access and create unnecessary challenges

2299
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,960
for businesses. It will contribute to

2300
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:50,080
the character and economic vitality of

2301
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:52,159
Coralis. If the village believes parking

2302
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:54,639
changes are necessary, I encourage the

2303
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:57,120
council to work collaboratively with

2304
01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:58,960
business owners to identify particular

2305
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:01,600
solutions before implementing

2306
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:04,080
restrictions. Options such as public

2307
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:06,400
parking areas, alternative parking

2308
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:09,040
locations, zoning modifications, or

2309
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:11,199
variances could help address concerns

2310
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:13,520
while minimizing the impact on local

2311
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:15,199
businesses. I appreciate your time and

2312
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,120
consideration and hope that the village

2313
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:19,600
will work with the businesses to find a

2314
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:21,600
solution that benefit the entire

2315
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,520
community. Thank you very much.

2316
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:26,920
» Thank you. Next, Mandy.

2317
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,920
» Mary Bolio.

2318
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,560
» Who was that?

2319
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,560
» Mary.

2320
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:40,000
» Hello again. Um, thank you, mayor, and

2321
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:42,639
thank you council members again for

2322
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,080
bringing this important topic for

2323
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:49,440
discussion. Um, in addition to the email

2324
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:51,840
and the photos that I sent you recently,

2325
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:54,880
uh, I would like to add to the list of

2326
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:57,920
safety concerns already mentioned that

2327
01:33:54,880 --> 01:34:00,960
residents and business owners are not

2328
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:02,880
trained to deal with the general public.

2329
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:05,840
And that is what we're seeing an

2330
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:09,280
increased influx of the public coming

2331
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:11,760
into our village into our neighborhoods.

2332
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:14,560
Uh it is dangerous in this day and age

2333
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,400
to approach anyone and ask them to maybe

2334
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:19,920
move their car because they're blocking

2335
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:22,560
our driveway, blocking our trash pickup,

2336
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,800
blocking our access to our trailer when

2337
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,719
we're taking our green waste. Those

2338
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:29,840
kinds of things are now dangerous

2339
01:34:26,719 --> 01:34:33,600
because we don't know always. they're

2340
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:35,679
not maybe our neighbors. Uh so there's a

2341
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,840
there's a real need for prof we need

2342
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:41,920
professional help [laughter] in more

2343
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:45,760
ways than one. But uh we do need our law

2344
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:47,679
enforcement to help us on these times

2345
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:50,400
when we feel very vulnerable and

2346
01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:52,960
exposed. We should not be asked to do

2347
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:57,840
this on our own. We don't have the

2348
01:34:52,960 --> 01:35:00,480
skills. Um, no parking signs are the key

2349
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:02,800
to the law enforcement. They are

2350
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:05,120
universally understood. So, people

2351
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:08,159
coming from other communities, they get

2352
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:10,560
it and we all understand it. And if

2353
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:13,520
we're talking about guests parking in

2354
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:15,760
front of my house, well, if even if I

2355
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:18,800
wanted to have a few friends over, if

2356
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:20,639
the business overflow parking is is all

2357
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:23,360
in front of my house, there's no room

2358
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:25,840
for my guests to park either. So, what

2359
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:29,040
we do is we always stack people in our

2360
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:30,800
driveway and sometimes we move our cars

2361
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:33,120
down the road. We'll ask a neighbor,

2362
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:35,520
"Can we use one of your parking spots or

2363
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:38,000
two for our cars so we can fit more on

2364
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,560
our property?" There are ways of dealing

2365
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:43,679
with this as residents. Is it a

2366
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:46,159
sacrifice? Sure. Is it an adjustment?

2367
01:35:43,679 --> 01:35:49,600
Sure. Do we accept it because we support

2368
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:52,639
local business? You bet. It's worth it

2369
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:54,960
and it's a unique situation, but it's

2370
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:57,920
the most important thing is that the

2371
01:35:54,960 --> 01:36:00,320
children on my street are safe. They can

2372
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,960
get to the mailbox. They can walk across

2373
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:06,719
to the pool, to the soccer fields. And

2374
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:09,440
that is the most important issue here.

2375
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:12,080
Consequences are is of not doing

2376
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:14,800
anything is that something tragic will

2377
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:17,600
happen eventually. Let's not wait for

2378
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:19,920
that. Our community does not need that

2379
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:23,840
black eye. We do need to make an

2380
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:25,920
adjustment. It's it's responsible growth

2381
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,320
and we can do it. And there are

2382
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:31,040
sacrifices that need to be made for

2383
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:34,080
public safety. And our our law

2384
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:36,960
enforcement needs the clear distinct

2385
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:39,360
signage to enforce the law. And this is

2386
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:41,920
what they have told us. Please put the

2387
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:43,520
signs up for all of our safety. Thank

2388
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,760
you.

2389
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,600
» Thank you.

2390
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,960
uh in the discussion by council

2391
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:53,520
councelor Roman.

2392
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:55,119
» Uh yeah, I um strongly support uh

2393
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,440
councelor Burquette and and councelor

2394
01:36:55,119 --> 01:37:00,000
Murray. Uh we can get public parking

2395
01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:02,560
first. I think we have uh some resources

2396
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,960
that we can use. Uh I don't know where

2397
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:07,040
the site development plans are. Uh we

2398
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:09,440
hear promises, but apparently they're in

2399
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:11,280
the works. Uh but also I think it's

2400
01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:12,960
really important as the councelor Murray

2401
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,960
pointed out that if we're going to

2402
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:18,560
encourage people to use public parking

2403
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:20,400
on the west side of Corell's Road to get

2404
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,639
to the businesses, there needs to be

2405
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:27,600
some kind of lighting. Uh I mean it's

2406
01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:29,840
now uh almost 8:30. All right. 8:10 it's

2407
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,520
light. Six months from now it's going to

2408
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,880
be dark and through all the winter it's

2409
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,280
going to be dark and people are going to

2410
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,440
be going to restaurants and bars using

2411
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:39,040
the public parking places but along

2412
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:41,840
Coralis where there needs to be some

2413
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:44,480
lighting. Now if it has to be I don't

2414
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:47,040
know what the depth is beyond uh Corales

2415
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:50,080
road that the village can access

2416
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:52,560
lighting and not interfere with this

2417
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:54,080
next do but there's got to be some way

2418
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,560
that we can we can handle that people

2419
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:58,159
are people are safe. that's separate and

2420
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,159
apart from the really critical issue of

2421
01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:02,560
crossing Carellis Road. But it's I think

2422
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:04,159
that's important as well

2423
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:07,840
that that these parking lots are going

2424
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:10,080
to be not adjacent to but somewhat near

2425
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,560
the businesses that we're discussing uh

2426
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:14,560
and and we should use them and before I

2427
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:17,679
think before as a gentleman point out

2428
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:20,639
before we uh delve into parking signs

2429
01:38:17,679 --> 01:38:22,719
let's see as councelor Bquette indicated

2430
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:25,679
let's see if these parking lots work and

2431
01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:27,840
it may be 60% 75%

2432
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:28,719
um and and we can deal with the rest

2433
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,280
after that.

2434
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:31,440
» Marie,

2435
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:34,639
» And also one other question if I could.

2436
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:36,320
The um the packet indicated that the

2437
01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:38,480
sign ordinance next meeting is going to

2438
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,440
be on July 23rd. Is that July 23rd or

2439
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:41,440
June 23rd?

2440
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:43,040
» June 23rd. Well, so we have we have a

2441
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:45,119
meeting on June 23rd and then we have a

2442
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,800
meeting in in July, I believe also on

2443
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:49,199
the 23rd. It's that Thursday night

2444
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:51,840
meeting that that we had scheduled. So

2445
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:52,800
the but the um the uniform traffic

2446
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,840
ordinance, is that the one you're

2447
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,239
talking about? Yeah, that one will be

2448
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,920
June 2. 23.

2449
01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:59,679
» And also, um, if I may answer your

2450
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:02,560
question, if it's okay, mayor. Sure.

2451
01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:04,239
» Um, the Anderson site development plan,

2452
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,080
uh, we do have to wait until after the

2453
01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:08,239
new fiscal year, um, to be able to issue

2454
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:11,280
the PO, um, so we don't get ourselves in

2455
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:13,600
trouble with our auditor for, you know,

2456
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:15,119
um, so that site development plan will

2457
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:18,320
go into effect as as soon as we can

2458
01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:20,080
issue a PO at the after July 1st. That

2459
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:23,360
one is a go. PO4

2460
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:26,639
» Um the the work for the Anderson lot

2461
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:28,239
» To to do the site development plan

2462
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:28,639
» To to make it a parking lot. Yeah. We we

2463
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:29,360
had

2464
01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:30,639
» The site development.

2465
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,239
» Yes. To make the site development plan

2466
01:39:30,639 --> 01:39:34,719
for the parking lot that that council

2467
01:39:32,239 --> 01:39:36,560
saw and and uh voted to move forward

2468
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:38,960
with for the Gonzalez property. That one

2469
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,560
is already underway. However, it no

2470
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,800
parking is being considered. The only

2471
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,440
thing that we were directed to create a

2472
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:47,600
a plan for was just those bathrooms. So

2473
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:49,199
that plan will not show any parking at

2474
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,360
all. you walk to the bathrooms

2475
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:52,800
» Unless we choose to add that to the plan

2476
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,360
before it comes out.

2477
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,400
» Yep.

2478
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,360
» Okay,

2479
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,639
» That's we should do that.

2480
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:59,040
» Yeah. What's the pathway to do that?

2481
01:39:56,639 --> 01:40:01,040
Just amend this amend this motion that

2482
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,520
we do that before we do publish and

2483
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,679
post.

2484
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:05,920
» I think I think we should um we should

2485
01:40:03,679 --> 01:40:07,760
probably have it as a as an agenda item

2486
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,440
on the next meeting so that it's

2487
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,040
properly noticed to the public and that

2488
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:13,440
that way if if somebody wants to come

2489
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:15,119
and show support for having parking on

2490
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:16,400
the Gonzalez property, they have the

2491
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:18,000
opportunity to do that.

2492
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,800
» Okay. Thank you,

2493
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:21,600
» Council Murray.

2494
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:23,360
» Well, along those lines, and I'm going

2495
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,760
to support the public parking, but I'm

2496
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:28,159
also going to support that we reserve a

2497
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:31,040
portion of both of these lots as open

2498
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:34,159
space because at some point, we're going

2499
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:36,960
to want to improve these properties and

2500
01:40:34,159 --> 01:40:38,320
make them something beyond other than a

2501
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,040
parking lot

2502
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:43,920
» Because it's, you know, I love open

2503
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,520
space. I love but a parking lot it's

2504
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,199
kind of like what's that song you know

2505
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,960
cut down a tree and put and pave a

2506
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:50,960
parking lot or put up a parking lot

2507
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,719
that's not go that's not Corales and I

2508
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:55,520
want to see something that reflects

2509
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:57,440
Corales's values I don't want a wire

2510
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:59,920
fence I want something that looks

2511
01:40:57,440 --> 01:41:02,239
attractive and it's going to be enhance

2512
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:05,520
the village so uh if we're going to have

2513
01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:08,560
this as a as a item I would support that

2514
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,600
» Yeah I I I mean

2515
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,360
I [clears throat] think parking on the

2516
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,280
gazal side is fine

2517
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,679
But you know the Gonzalez law can be

2518
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:18,080
used a lot more than for parking.

2519
01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:20,960
» Uh you know I mean I was a part of a

2520
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:25,119
group that planned proposed a heritage

2521
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:27,840
park there um and extension of law park

2522
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:29,920
and parking was part of it too but not

2523
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:32,159
parking right in front on Corales road

2524
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:35,280
but to have some vegetation buffer to

2525
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:37,840
make it to make it more corales instead

2526
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:41,040
of oh it's a parking lot. And so all

2527
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:43,920
that has to be uh talked about and and

2528
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:46,960
I've there are a half a dozen or so

2529
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:52,400
architects who are uh working to try to

2530
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:55,920
help um us is is is going forth and

2531
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:57,199
getting uh architect on call architect

2532
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,600
uh that'll help with some of this

2533
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:02,159
planning. So whether it's probably

2534
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,400
better that way than

2535
01:42:02,159 --> 01:42:06,239
the mayor or the administrator or even

2536
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,840
council sort of drawing up a plan and

2537
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:11,119
saying hey you know this is what we

2538
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:13,199
ought to do but maybe have some have

2539
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:14,480
some expertise come in as people have

2540
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:16,000
talked about doing something

2541
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:18,320
professional

2542
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:20,320
uh before we just say oh yeah we'll make

2543
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:23,440
it a parking lot but I mean I think a

2544
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:26,400
parking lot should be part of it but is

2545
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:28,239
not the perhaps a primary part of that

2546
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:31,920
that

2547
01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:33,199
that [clears throat] real estate.

2548
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,679
Councelor Knight,

2549
01:42:33,199 --> 01:42:37,760
» Um, is Anderson also gonna be for the

2550
01:42:35,679 --> 01:42:39,920
growers market? So, it's not just going

2551
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,960
to be a parking lot, but it'll be also

2552
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,639
for the growers market.

2553
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,880
» The growers market can use that.

2554
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:47,040
Correct.

2555
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,800
» Like they use the current growers market

2556
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,239
lot, which is I mean, it's basically a

2557
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,560
parking lot.

2558
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:54,400
» So, they can use the Anderson.

2559
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,920
» Sure. Everybody knew that that's where

2560
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,159
the growers market's probably going to

2561
01:42:55,920 --> 01:43:00,000
go to. Yeah, I mean it's got almost two

2562
01:42:58,159 --> 01:43:03,600
acres I think the Anderson law. So

2563
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:07,920
that's a a lot of space for Gorers

2564
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:10,159
Market on Sunday and Wednesday and

2565
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,560
um parking other times. Yes, Council

2566
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:13,679
Murray,

2567
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:15,760
» I'm going to call a question.

2568
01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:21,639
» So as a reminder, the the item before

2569
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:21,639
you is to approve this resolution 2615.

2570
01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:27,840
» Okay. Councelor uh uh any second.

2571
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,119
» We we've already had a motion in a

2572
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,840
second to approve this.

2573
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:30,800
» He called the question.

2574
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,639
» Yeah. So he called the question.

2575
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,040
» Okay. I guess it's a roll call vote

2576
01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:34,320
then.

2577
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,600
» Correct.

2578
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,159
» Councelor Mira.

2579
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:41,040
» So the way I'm reading this just for

2580
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:43,119
clarification is uh providing no parking

2581
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,719
areas along the residential streets

2582
01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:46,159
» And that we have a call for the question

2583
01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:47,600
on that particular issue and that

2584
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:48,639
particular issue only. and we're going

2585
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,159
to be

2586
01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:52,320
» So if what you're voting on is to

2587
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:55,119
approve resolution 2615 which would

2588
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:58,480
publish and post the ordinance as

2589
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:59,760
written for approval in July

2590
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:00,639
» Or if we want to have a parking

2591
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,159
discussion we would

2592
01:44:00,639 --> 01:44:02,960
» So if you want to have a discussion

2593
01:44:02,159 --> 01:44:06,320
» Vote no

2594
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:07,600
» You would vote yes no

2595
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,400
» Vote no

2596
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:08,800
» Councelor Knight

2597
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:09,520
» No

2598
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:09,840
» Councelor Bquette

2599
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:10,560
» No

2600
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,360
» Councelor Murray

2601
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,320
» No

2602
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:16,719
» The motion does not pass

2603
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,920
um moving along

2604
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:20,000
Um

2605
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:22,560
» If if I may, mayor, does does anyone

2606
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,080
want to make a motion on what to do next

2607
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,679
so that this because right now this has

2608
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,199
failed. It's gone.

2609
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:28,400
» We will not do any further work on it

2610
01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:30,400
without council's direction.

2611
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,159
» I move that we have a discussion about

2612
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,480
parking inside development plans of

2613
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:36,080
village owned properties um at the next

2614
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:37,760
available meeting that we can possibly

2615
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,520
get that on the schedule for.

2616
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:42,719
» I second.

2617
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:45,360
» Any discussion?

2618
01:44:42,719 --> 01:44:47,679
Uh, I'm going to for the discussion

2619
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:49,040
phase, but I think we're there. Uh, we

2620
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:51,280
probably there about a year and a half

2621
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,199
ago when I had a motion that we should

2622
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,480
get both of these properties. We should

2623
01:44:53,199 --> 01:44:56,000
see how they work together. And we

2624
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:57,679
already voted yes on that one. It's been

2625
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,159
a year and a half ago. But that's okay.

2626
01:44:57,679 --> 01:45:01,679
Time heals all. But this is what we're

2627
01:45:00,159 --> 01:45:02,159
doing and that's fine. So, it's fine

2628
01:45:01,679 --> 01:45:04,000
with me,

2629
01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:06,960
» Right? I mean, and the parking should

2630
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:09,440
include maybe the municipal parking lot.

2631
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:12,639
Uh, you know, because we have parking

2632
01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:14,080
available there. Um

2633
01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:16,960
uh maybe it should include the Jones

2634
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:19,280
property. I don't know. But they're more

2635
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:21,760
they're more lost than just the Anderson

2636
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,199
and and I brought it up is because I

2637
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:25,440
think we had a motion that we already

2638
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:26,960
voted on motion I I made a long time ago

2639
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:28,800
saying we should get these properties

2640
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,920
see how they work together with one

2641
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,679
another and I don't think we're doing

2642
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,480
anything different on that motion. So

2643
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:34,880
we're okay with that.

2644
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:37,679
» No, we're still working at that. Okay.

2645
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:38,320
Um call the motion. Councelor Mirror,

2646
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:39,920
how do you vote?

2647
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,560
» Yes, sir. Councelor Wman.

2648
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,840
» Hi.

2649
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,320
» Councelor Knight. Hi. Councelor

2650
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:42,639
Berquette.

2651
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,360
» Hi.

2652
01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:43,920
» Councelor Murray.

2653
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,760
» Yes.

2654
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,920
» Motion carries to have a discussion at

2655
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:51,280
the next meeting on parking issues in

2656
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:54,239
the village. Great.

2657
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:56,880
New business discussion and uh of

2658
01:45:54,239 --> 01:45:58,960
process and possible action on the

2659
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:02,400
vacancy of the district 4 council seat

2660
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:04,239
for unexpired term of office per statute

2661
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:06,800
NMSA [clears throat]

2662
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:09,280
3-21-

2663
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:12,239
uh one.

2664
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:17,199
Um, I do not have a nomination at this

2665
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:19,440
time uh for the position. Um, and what

2666
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:21,920
I'd like to do is is it's been

2667
01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:25,119
recommended to open up the application

2668
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:28,639
process for another week and uh perhaps

2669
01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:31,920
have a nomination next meeting.

2670
01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:34,880
» We may have skipped an item on the uh

2671
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,840
the power line crossing Corral Road.

2672
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,560
» Nope. That's the next one.

2673
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,639
» That's the next one.

2674
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:40,639
» I'm sorry. That That's the next item.

2675
01:46:38,639 --> 01:46:41,679
» Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

2676
01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:43,360
» Sorry.

2677
01:46:41,679 --> 01:46:45,920
» You stole my house.

2678
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,639
» You're trying to trying to leave early.

2679
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,920
» Sharing.

2680
01:46:46,639 --> 01:46:48,719
» Sherry.

2681
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,760
» Sharing.

2682
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:51,840
» Sponsor Murray.

2683
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,920
» Well, I was under the impression that we

2684
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:56,320
were going to postpone this item to the

2685
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,199
next meeting. Is that correct?

2686
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,960
» Yes. Okay.

2687
01:46:57,199 --> 01:47:01,440
» By by state statute, it has to appear on

2688
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:03,280
every agenda until we get a nomination.

2689
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:04,719
» This has to go up on agenda, though. and

2690
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,400
and mayor and members of council, just

2691
01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:08,960
for the the sake of keeping it a clean

2692
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:11,440
record, um my suggestion would be to

2693
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:13,520
make a motion to table this until a date

2694
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:16,560
certain and list the next regular

2695
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:18,960
agenda. Um as that date certain to have

2696
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,920
this reappear and we can again table if

2697
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,199
necessary at that stage.

2698
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,600
» Table or post?

2699
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:25,520
» It's postponed. Table table is only in

2700
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:27,360
the same meeting. Postpone is moving it

2701
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:29,440
to another meeting. I would move that we

2702
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,960
postpone this item to the next meeting,

2703
01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:32,960
June 23rd.

2704
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:35,040
» Any second on that? Second.

2705
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,400
» Any discussion?

2706
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,639
All in favor say I.

2707
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:37,360
» I.

2708
01:47:36,639 --> 01:47:40,960
» I.

2709
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:43,040
» Any oppose? Motion carries.

2710
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,560
Number two, consideration, action, and

2711
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:46,800
appro

2712
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:49,199
What? Sorry.

2713
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:52,639
Consideration action approval of

2714
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:57,199
resolution 26-35 approval of an overhead

2715
01:47:52,639 --> 01:48:00,400
power line at 5311 Corales Road pursuant

2716
01:47:57,199 --> 01:48:03,840
to village code land use regulations

2717
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:06,560
section 1830 Q4.

2718
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,360
Um may I have a motion to open this up

2719
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,199
for discussion?

2720
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,119
» Move to approve.

2721
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:14,159
» Second. Second.

2722
01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:16,000
» Any discussion now? Uh councelor Murray.

2723
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:17,440
» Yeah, thank you. So, my only question

2724
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,920
is, and I was looking, I don't know if I

2725
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:22,719
was looking at an old fixture uh along

2726
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:25,840
Carl's Road, but seems to me there is a

2727
01:48:22,719 --> 01:48:27,280
tree that is next to a utility pole

2728
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:30,560
right that at that corner of the

2729
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:32,560
property. And if we're going to allow a

2730
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:35,119
power line go across, I want that tree

2731
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,880
removed because uh it's going to

2732
01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:38,080
interfere with power with later down the

2733
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,320
road.

2734
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:42,239
» Um my name is Esther Frederickson. I'm

2735
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:45,199
um my partner Kenny Dilap and I were the

2736
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:47,199
builders. Um, so I put the I can answer

2737
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:48,800
questions about the tree.

2738
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:49,840
» No, I'd like to see the tree removed

2739
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:54,080
just basically.

2740
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:56,639
» Yeah. So, um I mean PNM um asked that we

2741
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:58,400
trim the tree. Um so we were going to

2742
01:48:56,639 --> 01:48:59,520
trim the tree in order to

2743
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,400
» Is it an elm tree?

2744
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,440
» It is an elm tree.

2745
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:05,760
» Cut it down. [laughter]

2746
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:08,960
» I'm going to go with Evan Loack. She was

2747
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,719
a proponent of removing every elm tree

2748
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,800
within the village mainly because they

2749
01:49:10,719 --> 01:49:14,320
suck water. But I would just I would

2750
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,679
just ask you to remove it.

2751
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:18,239
» Okay. I mean, I can talk to the land

2752
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:20,000
owner about that. Yeah.

2753
01:49:18,239 --> 01:49:22,880
» I I do believe our fire chief would

2754
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,920
support that that motion.

2755
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,840
» Any other questions?

2756
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,239
» He'd be better off

2757
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:31,119
» That tree is going to be his property in

2758
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:33,360
another year. So,

2759
01:49:31,119 --> 01:49:33,679
» Any other question for any?

2760
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,600
» Yeah.

2761
01:49:33,679 --> 01:49:37,840
» Yes. Hi, thanks for coming. Uh what is

2762
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,760
the timeline for construction?

2763
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,320
» Um so, we haven't submitted our permit

2764
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:44,639
yet. Obviously the step one was um

2765
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,760
obtaining our driveway permit from NMDOT

2766
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:46,159
which we did.

2767
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,080
» Um

2768
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:50,719
» So they they allowed

2769
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:53,600
» I know that was a question before

2770
01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:55,040
» With with DOT about not alignment or

2771
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,920
something of the driveway.

2772
01:49:55,040 --> 01:50:01,199
» Um so NM DOT allowed us to put the

2773
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:05,520
driveway on the um north edge of the

2774
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:08,159
property and it kind of curves um south

2775
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:10,080
a little bit. So they were fine with the

2776
01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:13,679
visibility for that. So yeah, we do have

2777
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:16,239
a agenda DOT permit for that. Um, so

2778
01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:18,960
step two was getting power to the lot.

2779
01:50:16,239 --> 01:50:23,520
Um, there are power lines on the west

2780
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:27,280
side of her property. um along the MRGCD

2781
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:31,280
MRGCD ditch. Um PNM didn't allow us to

2782
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:33,040
use those because um they want they want

2783
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:34,320
the power to come from the front because

2784
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,320
they have a lot of confusion with

2785
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,600
addresses when the power comes from

2786
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,639
different parts, you know, different

2787
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:43,280
sides of the property. Um so the

2788
01:50:40,639 --> 01:50:45,280
transformer is on the opposite side of

2789
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:48,320
Coralis Road from her property. So

2790
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:51,440
there's kind of no other way to access

2791
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:53,280
power to her property. um also say there

2792
01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:56,480
used to be prior to her engaging with

2793
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:59,199
us, there was an old um adobe house on

2794
01:50:56,480 --> 01:51:01,520
the property that was um had been

2795
01:50:59,199 --> 01:51:05,119
demolished. So I assume that that house

2796
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:06,639
had power at one point as well. Um but

2797
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:08,639
yeah, but you're right, there is a tree

2798
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:10,480
at that corner. Um and there's also

2799
01:51:08,639 --> 01:51:12,159
there's currently a Quest um

2800
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:15,119
communication followed that

2801
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:16,639
» Murray. Uh so is the irrigation ditch is

2802
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:17,360
that being used or is that out of

2803
01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:19,040
service?

2804
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:22,880
» Um I believe it is being used.

2805
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:24,560
» Okay. Is the idea then to run power

2806
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,760
through another pole to the house or are

2807
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,360
you going to run it underground?

2808
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:30,080
» It's going to be underground. So, we are

2809
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:32,239
minimizing the overhead power line to

2810
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:34,239
the extent like really possible. We're

2811
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:36,239
trying to just get it over Corales Road

2812
01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:38,639
and then at that point we're going 230

2813
01:51:36,239 --> 01:51:40,080
ft underground to the proposed.

2814
01:51:38,639 --> 01:51:41,520
» Are you going to be farming front part

2815
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,599
of that or do they

2816
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,520
» Uh the it's it's zoned agriculture. I

2817
01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:48,000
assume the homeowner is going to be I

2818
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,760
mean she has access to the irrigation

2819
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,719
ditch and I think she intends to be

2820
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,800
farming it but

2821
01:51:50,719 --> 01:51:54,400
» Well how I'm I'm curious about how deep

2822
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,119
you plan on putting the rest of the

2823
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:59,440
power underground because uh is there a

2824
01:51:57,119 --> 01:52:02,239
possibility that if you're farming

2825
01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:03,119
you're going to dig up at or expose that

2826
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:05,679
power line?

2827
01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:10,000
» No, I don't. No. And we're running um

2828
01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:11,119
along the ascia there. So I don't I mean

2829
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,040
that's not a place that you would be

2830
01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:13,599
tilling. Is that a That's not lined, is

2831
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:14,639
it?

2832
01:52:13,599 --> 01:52:18,880
» It's not lined.

2833
01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:20,800
» Okay. So, it could be subject to water.

2834
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,639
» I mean, it's going to um I mean, I can

2835
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:26,400
get back to you on that on on the depth

2836
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:30,080
for for our um electrical line, but we

2837
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:32,159
are obviously, you know, going to be put

2838
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:34,320
we don't want to see that electrical

2839
01:52:32,159 --> 01:52:36,320
line get messed up. Well, I understand

2840
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:39,119
that's that's just the concern that if

2841
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:41,679
you're using the irrigation ditch, the

2842
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:43,760
saturation of the water exposing into

2843
01:52:41,679 --> 01:52:45,360
the cable or the cable detering because

2844
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,679
of the exposure to the water. So, I'm

2845
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,280
just

2846
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:47,679
» No, I don't I don't see that being an

2847
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:48,880
issue.

2848
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:50,239
» Okay.

2849
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:53,360
» And it should be a direct I mean, it's a

2850
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:53,840
direct buried cable. So,

2851
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,400
» Burket.

2852
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:57,920
» Uh, thank you, mayor. Um, so this is I

2853
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,679
guess not specific to your application,

2854
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,360
but just a thought. I mean, it seems

2855
01:52:59,679 --> 01:53:03,520
like the only reason we're having to do

2856
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:05,199
any section of overhead line is because

2857
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,719
P&M is saying that it's difficult for

2858
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:09,119
them to figure out someone's address if

2859
01:53:06,719 --> 01:53:11,440
the line runs east to west instead of

2860
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:13,679
west to east. Um, it seems like you guys

2861
01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:15,119
are doing everything possible to Yeah.

2862
01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:17,119
» Bury as much as you can,

2863
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:19,119
» Right? And and that's not quite correct

2864
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:22,080
because the the the line on the west

2865
01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:22,719
side um would have to cross the MRGCD

2866
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:23,440
ditch.

2867
01:53:22,719 --> 01:53:25,199
» Okay. So,

2868
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:25,679
» So both would have to be above ground at

2869
01:53:25,199 --> 01:53:26,159
some point.

2870
01:53:25,679 --> 01:53:28,080
» Yes.

2871
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:29,679
» Okay. But I I I just think for something

2872
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,840
just food for thought for our franchise

2873
01:53:29,679 --> 01:53:34,960
agreement with P&M, we need to discuss

2874
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,719
with them that their ease of identifying

2875
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,639
addresses is not justification for them

2876
01:53:36,719 --> 01:53:41,520
to ask people to put stuff over Carales

2877
01:53:38,639 --> 01:53:43,440
Road. Um because we make everyone jump

2878
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:46,400
through all these hoops to do a small

2879
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:48,000
section of overhead line. And a big

2880
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:49,280
reason we're doing it is just for

2881
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,280
convenience of something that's very

2882
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:53,199
simple to do that P&M says they don't

2883
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:55,199
want to do. You would have to say that

2884
01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:58,800
when we were going to bring you the P&M

2885
01:53:55,199 --> 01:54:01,760
franchise as a as negotiated over the

2886
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:04,639
last year and a half, I think at the

2887
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:06,239
next meeting. [laughter]

2888
01:54:04,639 --> 01:54:08,159
» Good point, though. Yeah.

2889
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:10,000
» Yeah. I know we we've we've actually um

2890
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:12,960
the the fire chief and I have gone back

2891
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:15,119
and forth with PNM on and our attorneys

2892
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:18,400
on, you know, things like the the trees

2893
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:19,599
and um undergrounding and you know, I I

2894
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,280
think we've we've reached a point where

2895
01:54:19,599 --> 01:54:22,719
we've we've squeezed everything out of

2896
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,080
them that we can possibly get. But yeah,

2897
01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:27,199
we will have a new franchise agreement

2898
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:29,199
for you um at the next meeting. But it

2899
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:31,360
it is very frustrating on our end too

2900
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:34,960
because you know we would like them to

2901
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:37,280
meet certain conditions and yeah I mean

2902
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:39,040
it it does seem like it it should be a

2903
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:41,920
no-brainer that they could figure out

2904
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:46,080
where where the line is coming from. But

2905
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:49,679
» And an issue I think is that PNM charges

2906
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:53,119
a fairly high amount to run the line

2907
01:54:49,679 --> 01:54:55,599
underground whereas to run it overland

2908
01:54:53,119 --> 01:54:57,280
is a lot less expensive. And so, you

2909
01:54:55,599 --> 01:55:01,040
know, we're probably probably going to

2910
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:05,360
be seeing more overhead line requests

2911
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:08,000
come in um uh because people feel they

2912
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:09,440
can't afford to go underground.

2913
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:11,119
» Well, and in this case too, you you

2914
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,040
would have to go under Corales Road,

2915
01:55:11,119 --> 01:55:14,880
which would then involve DOT for a

2916
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,679
permit to go under the road.

2917
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:19,119
» Easy to work with.

2918
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:21,520
» Yeah. Our DNM is going to involve NMDOT

2919
01:55:19,119 --> 01:55:23,520
to go over the road as well. So, and

2920
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:26,159
they and B&M is sort of waiting for the

2921
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:29,199
outcome of of this variance in order to

2922
01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:29,760
start that process.

2923
01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:31,280
» Sir,

2924
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,040
» Well, that brings up the question too

2925
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,280
because

2926
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,880
if there's I mean, yes, X number of

2927
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,800
dollars to go under the road, but what

2928
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:40,719
is the cost to P&M if they have to come

2929
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,800
out and service that because of a storm,

2930
01:55:40,719 --> 01:55:45,199
the line goes down, they have to bring

2931
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:47,280
contractors in, and then what's the

2932
01:55:45,199 --> 01:55:49,119
repair? You know, eventually it adds up

2933
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:51,440
over the years when it might have been

2934
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:53,599
simpler just to put it under the ground.

2935
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:55,520
Even though the cost may be I don't know

2936
01:55:53,599 --> 01:56:00,320
what it is. I mean, is it two times

2937
01:55:55,520 --> 01:56:03,280
» $7,000 to go to $7,000 to go

2938
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:06,560
» The the $10,000 that I mean it's sort of

2939
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:07,199
a um they haven't given us a firm number

2940
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,360
yet.

2941
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:12,080
» It seems like to me to bring out a

2942
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:13,920
contractor if there's a storm and a pole

2943
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:16,880
goes down or the lines come down over

2944
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:19,360
Cross Road. What's the cost? It's

2945
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:21,119
probably negligible. I mean, it's it's

2946
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,280
it's probably somewhere there's going to

2947
01:56:21,119 --> 01:56:24,639
be a your return on investment is going

2948
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,159
to be exceeding what it could have been

2949
01:56:24,639 --> 01:56:28,480
if it had been under ground.

2950
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:32,159
» PNM will do it. The thing is that the

2951
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:34,239
P&M charges the resident for it. And the

2952
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:36,639
resident says, "Hey, you know, it's a

2953
01:56:34,239 --> 01:56:38,880
lot less expensive going."

2954
01:56:36,639 --> 01:56:40,719
» Well, I understand, but it's

2955
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:43,360
» Overground than under.

2956
01:56:40,719 --> 01:56:46,639
» I'll I'll give you an example on my

2957
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:50,000
property. Our line runs across GR Road

2958
01:56:46,639 --> 01:56:52,960
down several houses to a property. Then

2959
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:55,920
it goes underground to my place.

2960
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:59,280
I've watched the transformer on Crossro

2961
01:56:55,920 --> 01:57:01,440
Road burn because it's on the pole and

2962
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:03,599
something happened and you know it just

2963
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:06,400
disintegrate. But it takes out half a

2964
01:57:03,599 --> 01:57:08,320
dozen of us that are on that on that

2965
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,280
line. So anyway, that's just that's just

2966
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,040
an example.

2967
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,960
» So the so the transformer itself is on

2968
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:14,560
the east side of Corales Road. So we're

2969
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,000
asking to put a customer owned pole. So

2970
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,840
there would be a service drop.

2971
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,199
» Um so the transformer is already there.

2972
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:23,360
We're not putting in a new

2973
01:57:19,199 --> 01:57:26,719
» Well, it just it just

2974
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:29,360
Okay. Um

2975
01:57:26,719 --> 01:57:32,159
getting personal. I think 20 years ago

2976
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:35,760
B&M charged us $15,000

2977
01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:38,880
to run line underground for us.

2978
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:40,719
And that was 20 years ago.

2979
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,840
and we paid it just we felt that you

2980
01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:44,800
know we'd rather have a light

2981
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:45,280
underground for many reasons but we had

2982
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,719
to

2983
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,360
» Either have you

2984
01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:48,639
» Pardon me

2985
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,840
» You haven't had a problem with the

2986
01:57:48,639 --> 01:57:52,320
underground service

2987
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:55,840
» No

2988
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,800
» Any other questions for

2989
01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:00,119
» Fire chief has a question

2990
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,119
» Fire chief

2991
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:10,400
» Council um I believe you've heard my

2992
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:12,639
testimony before. We're not I'm not in

2993
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:16,080
support of any more above ground

2994
01:58:12,639 --> 01:58:18,159
utilities. Uh we get calls. Uh just this

2995
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:20,639
last week, we've had multiple trees

2996
01:58:18,159 --> 01:58:24,000
down, some of them involving either low

2997
01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:26,400
voltage lines, delay in response.

2998
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:29,119
Uh two weeks ago, we had a cottonwood

2999
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:31,520
tree come off um on a private property,

3000
01:58:29,119 --> 01:58:34,000
fall down, pulled the overhead power

3001
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:37,920
line to the service head off the house,

3002
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:40,239
shorted out. um kind of smoldering in

3003
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:44,480
the box and luckily the the house didn't

3004
01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:46,000
burn down. Um so

3005
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:48,239
hearing that they're doing everything

3006
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:50,000
they possibly can to make it safer in a

3007
01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:51,520
customer-owned pole. Counselor, thank

3008
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:53,280
you for suggesting that the tree be

3009
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:55,679
removed. Ultimately, this is your

3010
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:57,599
decision. This is their right to appeal.

3011
01:58:55,679 --> 01:58:58,960
Uh but I think we could do better by

3012
01:58:57,599 --> 01:59:01,679
making sure that even if it is a

3013
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:04,719
customer-owned pole and the utility is

3014
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:08,000
going to be overhead that the owner of

3015
01:59:04,719 --> 01:59:09,920
the property or if the property sells

3016
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:12,080
that it's you know that they have to

3017
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:13,920
maintain a clear area around that

3018
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:15,760
service and not plant trees underneath

3019
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,520
the power lines because they're just

3020
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:20,480
continuous you know it's a continual

3021
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:22,080
problem in the village. So thank you.

3022
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:24,159
And the problem there is, you know, how

3023
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:25,840
do you maintain that? You know, that's

3024
01:59:24,159 --> 01:59:28,719
not a village easement and they're not

3025
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:32,000
going to give us that land. And if the

3026
01:59:28,719 --> 01:59:35,920
owner decides to plant a cottonwood tree

3027
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:37,440
under it, uh what recourse do we have?

3028
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:39,679
Correct, mayor. Uh you're absolutely

3029
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:42,880
right. Right. I mean, I I don't know how

3030
01:59:39,679 --> 01:59:45,199
we can enforce it other than uh doing

3031
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:47,679
our due diligence, PSAs, advising

3032
01:59:45,199 --> 01:59:49,760
homeowners to if they have trees on

3033
01:59:47,679 --> 01:59:50,880
their private property that enforce, you

3034
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:53,199
know, reminding them it's their

3035
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:56,159
responsibility. My understanding, I

3036
01:59:53,199 --> 01:59:58,400
could be wrong, but when PNM

3037
01:59:56,159 --> 02:00:01,760
takes that their triplex or whatever

3038
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:04,560
service line from their pole to a

3039
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:07,520
customerowned pole or to the house of

3040
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:09,280
residence, that is the responsibility of

3041
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:13,360
that homeowner. And a lot of homeowners

3042
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:14,880
don't understand that. And um I I I just

3043
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,440
think, you know, we could do a better

3044
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:19,520
part in trying to educate them that if

3045
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:24,960
they do have trees that they're trimmed

3046
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:26,719
regularly. and uh maintained.

3047
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,520
» Thank you,

3048
02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:29,760
councelor Murray.

3049
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:32,159
» Uh so this is a question for Lori. Then

3050
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:34,719
when the Lori when they bring you the

3051
02:00:32,159 --> 02:00:38,239
plans for your house, is there a way we

3052
02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:39,920
can stipulate that any uh power being

3053
02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:43,119
brought into that property that it

3054
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:45,199
remained free of vegetation?

3055
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:46,880
» We can give them a document to that

3056
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:49,840
effect. We already give them the dark

3057
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:51,840
skies ordinance and uh we ask for

3058
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:55,679
certified asbuilts for their grading and

3059
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:58,560
drainage. But but um like some folks

3060
02:00:55,679 --> 02:01:00,639
have suggested it's hard people still do

3061
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:03,440
what they're going to do and then trees

3062
02:01:00,639 --> 02:01:04,480
grow. We we can certainly do that. We we

3063
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,800
can tell them to

3064
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:09,520
» And don't they have to have a when

3065
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:11,280
another if the property train changes

3066
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:13,440
hands, don't they have to have a survey

3067
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:15,440
done and they have to have certain

3068
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:17,440
stipulations on it? uh that's up to the

3069
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:18,880
title company. Sometimes they just buy a

3070
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:20,800
property and okay

3071
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:23,520
» Uh you know we're we're talking most of

3072
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:26,159
these are some type of new construction

3073
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:29,440
and then once it's there it's there once

3074
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:31,520
the overhead is there it's there um and

3075
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:34,800
properties change hands people plant

3076
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:36,719
trees and it becomes more difficult to

3077
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:39,040
to keep an eye on that. Is that an

3078
02:01:36,719 --> 02:01:40,400
ordinance that we need or I'm just uh

3079
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,199
kind of throwing this out to see where

3080
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,719
it sticks?

3081
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:43,920
» And mayor and members of council, it

3082
02:01:42,719 --> 02:01:45,280
reminds me of something that you had

3083
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,360
said prior to this meeting, which is

3084
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:49,520
that the enforcement portion of the code

3085
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:51,840
is kind of an area that I think really

3086
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:54,480
bears looking at. Um and I think sort of

3087
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:56,719
in tandem I'm looking at um 1830 that

3088
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:57,760
subsection Q that talks about these

3089
02:01:56,719 --> 02:01:59,920
communication and electrical

3090
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:02,159
distribution lines. Um, and it really

3091
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:04,159
doesn't address in a meaningful way

3092
02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:06,719
anything to do with vegetation and

3093
02:02:04,159 --> 02:02:08,560
obstruction of the lines. Um, you know,

3094
02:02:06,719 --> 02:02:11,199
there are a lot of things that are sort

3095
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:13,440
of notably absent from this in terms of

3096
02:02:11,199 --> 02:02:14,800
if we wanted to be able to, you know,

3097
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:17,119
look out over somebody's property and

3098
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:18,560
see that there's a tree back there. Um,

3099
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:19,840
you know, there's really no mechanism at

3100
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,119
this stage other than saying, "Hey, we

3101
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:22,080
see that that tree is awfully close to

3102
02:02:21,119 --> 02:02:24,239
your power line. You might want to

3103
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:26,400
reconsider that." Um, and that's kind of

3104
02:02:24,239 --> 02:02:28,400
where we're limited. Um so it may be

3105
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:29,920
worth taking a look at that code in in

3106
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:31,920
tandem with taking a look at enforcement

3107
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:33,199
provisions and seeing you know is this

3108
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:36,159
something I mean obviously one of the

3109
02:02:33,199 --> 02:02:38,480
reasons that this is here is that um the

3110
02:02:36,159 --> 02:02:40,480
biggest concern is public safety uh and

3111
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:42,880
if there is a meaningful way to get

3112
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:44,320
underground access u because it would be

3113
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,599
a better benefit to public safety. I

3114
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:47,920
mean I think we just heard Chief tell us

3115
02:02:45,599 --> 02:02:49,440
that. Um,

3116
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:50,800
so I I mean it may not be strictly

3117
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:53,040
necessary except for those lots where

3118
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,239
they already have overhead lines sort of

3119
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,679
running through them, running near them,

3120
02:02:54,239 --> 02:02:58,159
adjacent to those lot lines, you know,

3121
02:02:55,679 --> 02:03:00,400
where you might be considering

3122
02:02:58,159 --> 02:03:01,760
granting this sort of with conditions,

3123
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:03,599
right? There's no ability to give

3124
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:06,599
conditions at this stage the way it's

3125
02:03:03,599 --> 02:03:06,599
written.

3126
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:13,440
» Uh, councelor Wman.

3127
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:15,280
» Thank you, Mayor. Um, Chief,

3128
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:18,239
is that a possibility that you could

3129
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:20,080
think about working on an ordinance that

3130
02:03:18,239 --> 02:03:22,719
would help you in terms of vegetation

3131
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:24,800
under power lines going forward?

3132
02:03:22,719 --> 02:03:26,400
» Absolutely, Mayor Counselor. Uh,

3133
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,360
» There there must be model legislation

3134
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,440
out there somewhere.

3135
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,119
» Yeah. And I I've done some research and

3136
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:33,280
looking at some of the uh different

3137
02:03:31,119 --> 02:03:35,199
ordinances and regulations and you know

3138
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:36,719
some enforcements uh starting in

3139
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:39,679
California because you know some of the

3140
02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:41,760
wildfires have been caused and uh some

3141
02:03:39,679 --> 02:03:44,159
are under investigation for you know

3142
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:46,480
utility lines or some sort of power line

3143
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:48,960
and so uh I'd be happy to take on that

3144
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:51,280
task. Uh, I'd like to work, you know,

3145
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:54,000
with our code enforcement, planning and

3146
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:55,520
zoning, and also, you know, maybe we can

3147
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:57,520
parallel

3148
02:03:55,520 --> 02:04:00,400
um the P&M's, you know, vegetation

3149
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:01,840
management so we can help each other.

3150
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,679
So, when they're coming through and

3151
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:06,000
cleaning up their power lines or

3152
02:04:03,679 --> 02:04:09,199
distribution lines, we're also doing our

3153
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:10,960
enforcement at, you know, on the ground,

3154
02:04:09,199 --> 02:04:13,199
educating the public and trying to come

3155
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,880
up with some of the rules to help us

3156
02:04:13,199 --> 02:04:16,880
make our community safer. you know, some

3157
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:18,960
of the major fires in New Mexico have

3158
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:21,679
been power lines going through national

3159
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:24,239
forest and that that the cleared area

3160
02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:25,840
wasn't wide enough so that was when

3161
02:04:24,239 --> 02:04:27,599
there was a problem sparking whatever it

3162
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,880
was, it touched off these major

3163
02:04:27,599 --> 02:04:31,280
wildfires.

3164
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:34,239
» So using that as somewhat of a model and

3165
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:36,320
some of the California experiences.

3166
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:38,159
» Yeah. and mayor counselor um planning

3167
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:39,679
and zoning and I we we've had this

3168
02:04:38,159 --> 02:04:41,920
discussion and and they're doing their

3169
02:04:39,679 --> 02:04:44,320
part when they have a new site plan or a

3170
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:46,960
plat coming before that you know

3171
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:49,360
vegetation uh landscape requirements and

3172
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:51,119
stuff that's great if you have a certain

3173
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:53,440
amount of trees or shrubs you have to

3174
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:55,040
put on your property just don't put them

3175
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:55,599
in roads and don't put them underneath

3176
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:58,639
power and

3177
02:04:55,599 --> 02:05:00,400
» Make sure they're not elm trees

3178
02:04:58,639 --> 02:05:03,119
» So thank you Murray

3179
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:06,560
» I would move that we amend the uh motion

3180
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:10,480
to uh require the removal of the on tree

3181
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:14,360
at that corner of the property.

3182
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:14,360
» Any second to that?

3183
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,679
» I'll second that. Any more discussion on

3184
02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:20,480
that?

3185
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:22,320
» Well, one, I think the tree needs to be

3186
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:24,159
removed mainly because it's going to

3187
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:26,320
interfere with the power lines sooner or

3188
02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:29,119
later. And two, it sucks water like

3189
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:30,880
crazy. I mean, it's an elm tree and so I

3190
02:05:29,119 --> 02:05:32,719
think we'd be better off if we just had

3191
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:35,520
it removed. That eliminates the issue of

3192
02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:37,040
the power lines being interfered later

3193
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:39,440
in life.

3194
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:42,400
» Any more discussion on that?

3195
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:43,040
» I mean, Council Briquette and Council

3196
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:45,040
Knight,

3197
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:46,960
» My agreement is in sheer deference to

3198
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:49,040
the chief's vastly superior knowledge to

3199
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:51,040
me of the fire danger of uh of these

3200
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:55,199
trees and lines. And so, um, his

3201
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:55,840
concern, uh, becomes my concern.

3202
02:05:55,199 --> 02:05:58,159
» Knight.

3203
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,440
» Yeah. I just wanted to ask, do you think

3204
02:05:58,159 --> 02:06:01,760
there's going to be a problem with the

3205
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:03,679
homeowner about removing this tree? I

3206
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:04,719
mean, is it like give a lot of shade to

3207
02:06:03,679 --> 02:06:06,560
the house or

3208
02:06:04,719 --> 02:06:07,199
» No, it's not it's not a nice tree

3209
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:08,560
nowhere.

3210
02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:10,400
» Yeah, it's it's not a nice tree. It's

3211
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:13,040
just the cost of having to remove it.

3212
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:14,960
Um, you know, so that but if that's a

3213
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:17,920
condition of your approval, then we'll

3214
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:19,040
just tell her and that if she wants

3215
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:21,360
power, that's what she's going to have

3216
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:24,239
to do. [clears throat]

3217
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:26,880
» Any more discussion?

3218
02:06:24,239 --> 02:06:30,239
All in favor say I.

3219
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:30,960
» Any oppose? Motion carries.

3220
02:06:30,239 --> 02:06:33,360
» Thank you.

3221
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:34,960
» Thanks.

3222
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:37,360
» That that was resolution.

3223
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:39,679
» Well, that that was that was just um a

3224
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:41,920
vote to approve the amendment. Now you

3225
02:06:39,679 --> 02:06:44,880
need to go back and vote on the original

3226
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:46,159
motion with a Yes. With a roll call

3227
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:48,719
vote. Okay.

3228
02:06:46,159 --> 02:06:50,320
» So, you're you're um you're voting on

3229
02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:52,079
approval of the line with the

3230
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:54,639
stipulation that they remove the tree,

3231
02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:56,320
right? Council me, how do you vote?

3232
02:06:54,639 --> 02:06:58,159
» Councelor Waldman. Hi. Councelor Knight.

3233
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,560
Hi. Councelor Bquette. Hi. Councelor

3234
02:06:58,159 --> 02:06:59,199
Murray.

3235
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,199
» Yes.

3236
02:06:59,199 --> 02:07:04,960
» Motion carries. I'd like to take a

3237
02:07:01,199 --> 02:07:07,040
moment to uh thank uh Representative

3238
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:10,560
Casease for attending our meetings. Is

3239
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:13,360
there another uh candidate in in the

3240
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:16,719
room right now? Anyway, we appreciate

3241
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:21,040
you coming and attending and being aware

3242
02:07:16,719 --> 02:07:23,920
of the thorny issues in Coral sometimes

3243
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:27,268
and

3244
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:27,268
talk about [laughter]

3245
02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:36,560
» Oh, thank you very much for coming being

3246
02:07:32,639 --> 02:07:39,280
concerned and aware. Um, next item, uh,

3247
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:41,520
consideration, action, approval of

3248
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:44,079
resolution 26-35,

3249
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:47,599
approval of an overhead power line at

3250
02:07:44,079 --> 02:07:50,480
5311 Corales Road pursuant to village

3251
02:07:47,599 --> 02:07:53,199
code land use regulation section. Next

3252
02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:55,280
item, that's we just approved that one.

3253
02:07:53,199 --> 02:07:59,119
Number three, consideration action

3254
02:07:55,280 --> 02:08:00,960
approval of resolution 26 uh-36,

3255
02:07:59,119 --> 02:08:04,320
approval of an overhead power line at

3256
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:07,679
lot B, Targeta Lane, pursuant to village

3257
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:10,960
code land use regulation section 18-30

3258
02:08:07,679 --> 02:08:12,800
Q4. May I have a motion to open this up?

3259
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:13,760
» Motion to approve.

3260
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:16,320
» Second.

3261
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:19,599
» Any discussion?

3262
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:21,760
» Council would is somebody here from that

3263
02:08:19,599 --> 02:08:23,040
land that property

3264
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:25,520
» Mayor? I believe those are two

3265
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:28,079
contiguous lots. A and B are part of

3266
02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:30,960
what we just voted on previously. It's

3267
02:08:28,079 --> 02:08:32,000
the same address. She she just left.

3268
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:34,239
» Oh, okay.

3269
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:37,920
» Lori, are are do you are you aware of

3270
02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:39,679
that being the case?

3271
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,880
» It's a separate property, separate

3272
02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:42,000
residence.

3273
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:43,679
» Yeah.

3274
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:46,400
» The the one that you just voted on is

3275
02:08:43,679 --> 02:08:48,480
5311 Carles Road. It's on the the west

3276
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:50,880
side of Carales Road. This is farther

3277
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:53,840
north heading east off Targetta Lane.

3278
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:56,000
So, and Lori, correct me if I'm wrong.

3279
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:58,239
This one is literally just P&M refusing

3280
02:08:56,000 --> 02:09:00,719
to let them connect to their pool.

3281
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:02,320
» Correct. That that is their new stance

3282
02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:04,960
that they won't let anyone connect to

3283
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:07,360
their fancy power lines that bring power

3284
02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:08,719
to people, but we can't touch the fancy

3285
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:09,920
power lines that bring the power to the

3286
02:09:08,719 --> 02:09:12,719
people. We have to make another power

3287
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:14,400
line that gets the power line from the

3288
02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:16,560
one we can't touch to the one we can

3289
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:18,239
touch. Correct. And bury it. Communities

3290
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:20,079
like Rio Rancho that are very strict

3291
02:09:18,239 --> 02:09:22,880
with overhead or I'm sorry with

3292
02:09:20,079 --> 02:09:24,719
underground there. There's a a P&M has

3293
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:26,079
come up with something. It's a riser and

3294
02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:27,440
I'm trying to figure out how tall it is.

3295
02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:28,960
It's not certainly not as tall as a

3296
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:30,960
telephone pole. It's some kind of a

3297
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,800
metal thing and so the power comes off

3298
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:34,639
of the pole, connects to that little

3299
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:36,639
riser and then goes underground from

3300
02:09:34,639 --> 02:09:38,079
there. So that's what undergrounding

3301
02:09:36,639 --> 02:09:38,800
communities are doing. And it's my

3302
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:41,760
understanding that this

3303
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:43,920
» Is that in our franchise agreement.

3304
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:46,320
» I will have to go double check. I have

3305
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:48,560
the diagram. Administrator,

3306
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:50,560
» It does say in keeping with the

3307
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:52,880
ordinance.

3308
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,560
» Yeah. Yeah. The the franchise agreement

3309
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:57,440
with P&M does say they have to abide by

3310
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:59,280
all of our ordinances. So, whatever and

3311
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,599
we aren't specific about, you know, you

3312
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:03,360
have to follow 18 because the things can

3313
02:10:01,599 --> 02:10:05,520
change. So, it just says they will abide

3314
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:06,719
by all the village ordinances. So,

3315
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:09,119
interesting.

3316
02:10:06,719 --> 02:10:11,520
» Murray. Well, um I guess the question is

3317
02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:14,880
bringing the power across uh from

3318
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:17,920
Targetta to lot B. Uh did they have to

3319
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:20,719
get an easement from the uh owner of lot

3320
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:24,239
A?

3321
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:27,119
» I don't know land owner here at all or

3322
02:10:24,239 --> 02:10:28,000
» Because they're

3323
02:10:27,119 --> 02:10:30,239
okay.

3324
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:30,880
» Or they're

3325
02:10:30,239 --> 02:10:32,400
representative

3326
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:34,960
» Both and it kind of makes it a moot

3327
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:37,679
point that

3328
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:38,719
» You can't build a house. separate houses

3329
02:10:37,679 --> 02:10:41,440
here.

3330
02:10:38,719 --> 02:10:43,360
» Chief, would you like to say something?

3331
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:45,760
» What are they doing? Yeah.

3332
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:48,079
» Mayor, council, uh, thank you. I don't

3333
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:50,400
want to repeat what I said earlier. I

3334
02:10:48,079 --> 02:10:52,880
think I got my point across. Um, my my

3335
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:54,800
concern on this one was looking at the

3336
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:57,800
diagram.

3337
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:57,800
Um,

3338
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:03,360
and I understand that the power is there

3339
02:10:59,599 --> 02:11:04,400
on Taretta. just lost my page, but it

3340
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:08,000
looks like they're trying to put the

3341
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:11,520
pole right in the middle of lot B.

3342
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:15,840
And I maybe Lori can clarify, but my

3343
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:17,440
suggestion or um would be that the pole

3344
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:21,520
stay

3345
02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:23,440
if P&M doesn't allow a an underground

3346
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:26,159
conduit to be attached to their pole

3347
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:28,880
that a new owner pole be put where the

3348
02:11:26,159 --> 02:11:31,760
existing poles are on along that line of

3349
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:35,440
Taretta with underground service

3350
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:37,679
underneath Targetta Lane to lot B.

3351
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:39,440
Does that make sense?

3352
02:11:37,679 --> 02:11:41,119
Will that work if they don't own both

3353
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:43,440
lots? I I I don't know. I mean, if they

3354
02:11:41,119 --> 02:11:45,360
own both lots, that works, but can they

3355
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:47,040
force another pull on someone else's lot

3356
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:48,800
» That that Yeah. So, I have some

3357
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:52,159
questions just based on the diagram that

3358
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:54,239
I see. Or it might require

3359
02:11:52,159 --> 02:11:57,280
» Trenching down Taretta Lane if they have

3360
02:11:54,239 --> 02:11:58,639
rights to that for access and utility

3361
02:11:57,280 --> 02:12:00,639
easement because they have a utility

3362
02:11:58,639 --> 02:12:03,440
easement obviously. The power poles are

3363
02:12:00,639 --> 02:12:05,199
going on the north side of Targetta.

3364
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:07,040
This one may need to get postponed until

3365
02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:08,560
we can ask some questions.

3366
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:10,480
» Yeah.

3367
02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:13,599
I mean, Councelor Wilman,

3368
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:16,159
» Mayor, can I can I ask Lori? Um, I pass

3369
02:12:13,599 --> 02:12:18,880
that that property every day. Uh, it

3370
02:12:16,159 --> 02:12:21,119
seems to me that are you suggesting that

3371
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:22,800
these are two separate own perhaps not

3372
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:23,920
owners, but two separate lots. So,

3373
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,520
there'll be two separate houses

3374
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:27,520
potentially

3375
02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:29,199
» On Tetta. Correct. I mean, it's being

3376
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:30,320
farmed now. There's a lot A and there's

3377
02:12:29,199 --> 02:12:32,159
a lot B,

3378
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:33,840
» Right? How how large are each of the

3379
02:12:32,159 --> 02:12:35,520
lots? Do you know?

3380
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:36,880
» Gosh, I did look it up. Let me see if I

3381
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:39,199
can eyeball it. Um,

3382
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:40,400
» Pretty equal.

3383
02:12:39,199 --> 02:12:43,360
» Well, I'm gonna say they're about an

3384
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:45,360
acre each. Uh the I I looked up the

3385
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:47,679
plat. There was an amended plat that

3386
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:49,440
wasn't that long ago, so I I can

3387
02:12:47,679 --> 02:12:51,599
reasonably assume they're about an acre

3388
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,520
each.

3389
02:12:51,599 --> 02:12:55,440
» Legally platted lots that could be in

3390
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:57,440
the future. There's farming occurring

3391
02:12:55,440 --> 02:13:00,320
now, but they could contain houses. So,

3392
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:02,079
if I'm looking at this picture

3393
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:07,199
that we have in the packet, there's

3394
02:13:02,079 --> 02:13:09,679
target Lane to the south and then lot A,

3395
02:13:07,199 --> 02:13:12,159
» Lot B, right?

3396
02:13:09,679 --> 02:13:15,520
» And then and then there's an open space

3397
02:13:12,159 --> 02:13:19,119
just below the the line.

3398
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:20,960
» Is that is so is the land

3399
02:13:19,119 --> 02:13:23,440
below that line where where the outline

3400
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:25,520
is for lots A and B, is that part of it

3401
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:28,960
as well? because I don't think I don't

3402
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:31,360
think they're an acre each A and B.

3403
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:33,760
» I'm pretty sure they are. It's very hard

3404
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:37,520
to see, but there is they're rectangular

3405
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:39,280
lots and to the south of lot A and lot

3406
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:41,840
B, it looks like there's another road,

3407
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:46,079
but what that is is the indigenous farm

3408
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:47,599
hub, I believe, and a separate property.

3409
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:49,599
» So, where you where you see what looks

3410
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:51,840
like a road to the south of lot A and

3411
02:13:49,599 --> 02:13:54,639
lot B is simply just their farming

3412
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:56,239
access on another property. seems to me

3413
02:13:54,639 --> 02:13:58,000
that there, you know, questions about

3414
02:13:56,239 --> 02:14:00,400
this and without the property owner

3415
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:02,159
here, I mean, you know, are we going to

3416
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:05,199
make conditions that the property owner

3417
02:14:02,159 --> 02:14:09,280
has to abide by without the property

3418
02:14:05,199 --> 02:14:12,079
owner having discussion and input? Uh, I

3419
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:14,320
I just wonder whether that person or a

3420
02:14:12,079 --> 02:14:16,719
representative like in the previous item

3421
02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:19,440
» And this does say that the power is for

3422
02:14:16,719 --> 02:14:20,480
farming activities, not a home. I don't

3423
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:23,920
know if that makes a difference.

3424
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:26,639
» Is the is the uh owner

3425
02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:30,079
you proposed a power pole that the owner

3426
02:14:26,639 --> 02:14:32,000
is going to install for lot B and that's

3427
02:14:30,079 --> 02:14:34,239
where the house is going to be.

3428
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:37,199
» It right now the pole is going to be

3429
02:14:34,239 --> 02:14:38,719
adjacent to a shed that they're using in

3430
02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:41,840
their farming activities.

3431
02:14:38,719 --> 02:14:44,079
» That's where in lot B in lot maybe this

3432
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:44,719
is not for a house is just for maybe a

3433
02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:46,400
pump

3434
02:14:44,719 --> 02:14:48,079
» At this point in time. Yes, it it it

3435
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:49,920
does say in the the letter from the

3436
02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:52,079
property owner, the purpose of the propo

3437
02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:53,760
proposed new service is to provide power

3438
02:14:52,079 --> 02:14:54,880
to farming activities that are occurring

3439
02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:56,000
on site.

3440
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:57,760
» Does it doesn't mean that they couldn't

3441
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:59,360
build a house down the road, but yeah,

3442
02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:00,639
» It's got plans to build a house there.

3443
02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:01,440
» Yeah.

3444
02:15:00,639 --> 02:15:05,760
» Councelor Murray.

3445
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:08,639
» So, mayor, I would uh I will withdraw my

3446
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:12,000
motion and ask that uh we postpone this

3447
02:15:08,639 --> 02:15:12,480
item to the next uh available council

3448
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:15,040
meeting.

3449
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:17,040
» I'll second that. Any discussion on

3450
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:19,520
that?

3451
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:21,119
Uh, does this need

3452
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:22,000
just a goof?

3453
02:15:21,119 --> 02:15:24,400
» Yeah, you can. Yeah,

3454
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:24,800
» It's not a res. All in favor, please say

3455
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:25,040
I.

3456
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:25,440
» I.

3457
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:27,119
» I.

3458
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:29,920
» Any oppose?

3459
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:30,320
» Motion carries to postpone till the next

3460
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:31,760
meeting.

3461
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:33,040
» We Well, actually, we'll work with the

3462
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:34,480
property owner to make sure they can

3463
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:35,920
attend the next meeting. And if not,

3464
02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:37,840
we'll move it to the next meeting that

3465
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:39,040
the property owner is available to

3466
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:41,040
attend so that we can make sure that we

3467
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:42,320
don't run into this issue again. and

3468
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:43,760
mayor and members of council just for

3469
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:45,280
the sake of the record. So I did look it

3470
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:48,400
up on the assessor's website. So this

3471
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:50,320
property owner owns lot C and lot B. Um

3472
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:52,239
so lot A is not part of the equation as

3473
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:53,520
far as I can tell. So his power line is

3474
02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:55,040
sort of already

3475
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:56,239
» Um would be crossing over a different

3476
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:58,159
property owner's property.

3477
02:15:56,239 --> 02:16:01,199
» So they need they need an easement of

3478
02:15:58,159 --> 02:16:03,040
some kind I would presume. We'll see.

3479
02:16:01,199 --> 02:16:04,800
» But I guess that we can ask that when

3480
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:06,719
» It may pre-exist. It would be entirely

3481
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:11,199
dependent on what that survey and plat

3482
02:16:06,719 --> 02:16:14,239
said you know when it was created. Okay.

3483
02:16:11,199 --> 02:16:16,239
Okie do. Uh, last item in new business.

3484
02:16:14,239 --> 02:16:19,840
Um, item four, consideration action

3485
02:16:16,239 --> 02:16:24,719
approval of resolution 26-37

3486
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:27,280
adopting the 2028 to 2032

3487
02:16:24,719 --> 02:16:29,840
infrastructure capital improvement plan

3488
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:31,040
ICIP. May I have a motion to open this?

3489
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:32,240
» Move to approve.

3490
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:35,280
» Second.

3491
02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:38,280
» Um, we have a motion to second. Any

3492
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,280
discussion?

3493
02:16:42,639 --> 02:16:46,559
That's unusual.

3494
02:16:44,719 --> 02:16:46,960
» Take that roll call vote now.

3495
02:16:46,559 --> 02:16:48,880
» Fast.

3496
02:16:46,960 --> 02:16:51,884
» Are you here to check on your money?

3497
02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:51,884
Good for you. [laughter]

3498
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:57,280
» And we we do have the option of um if we

3499
02:16:54,800 --> 02:16:59,840
want to adjust the um so we have to get

3500
02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:02,160
this list into the state before July 1

3501
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:04,240
and then they then they close the the

3502
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:06,559
portal. We can't make any changes to it.

3503
02:17:04,240 --> 02:17:09,120
However, before everything reopens for

3504
02:17:06,559 --> 02:17:10,719
the capital outlay process, they will

3505
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:12,559
reopen the portal for a short period of

3506
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:15,280
time if we want to restructure any of

3507
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:17,200
our rankings as we get closer to that

3508
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:18,559
time of requesting capital outlay. So,

3509
02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:21,840
just just so you know, these these

3510
02:17:18,559 --> 02:17:23,439
rankings do get locked in after July 1,

3511
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:25,760
but we do have the option to change them

3512
02:17:23,439 --> 02:17:28,080
before we go to our our great

3513
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:31,599
legislators for for funding. And thanks

3514
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:33,439
to Melanie for re surveying us because

3515
02:17:31,599 --> 02:17:34,240
there was some confusion last time with

3516
02:17:33,439 --> 02:17:35,840
how we ranked.

3517
02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:38,000
» Thank you all to all the counselors for

3518
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:41,439
for re-ranking them.

3519
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:43,280
» Right. So on that uh Mr. Mayor, uh

3520
02:17:41,439 --> 02:17:44,559
municipal parking facilities means just

3521
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,439
what we were talking about earlier that

3522
02:17:44,559 --> 02:17:47,359
we have to wait.

3523
02:17:45,439 --> 02:17:50,080
» No, the municipal parking facilities is

3524
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:52,160
was um specifically for the admin

3525
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:53,920
complex, not all the other. Yeah,

3526
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:57,280
because that that was that was already

3527
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:58,000
» But we still have to wait till till 1 on

3528
02:17:57,280 --> 02:17:59,280
this one. Okay.

3529
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:00,880
» Yeah.

3530
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:04,240
» Gotcha.

3531
02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:07,359
» Any other discussion?

3532
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:09,920
» Okay. Um let's take a vote this

3533
02:18:07,359 --> 02:18:10,319
resolution. So councelor Mariotti vote.

3534
02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:11,280
» Yes.

3535
02:18:10,319 --> 02:18:12,000
» Councelor Bquette.

3536
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:14,399
» Yes. Councelor

3537
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:14,880
» Knight. Councelor Wman. Hi. Councelor

3538
02:18:14,399 --> 02:18:17,120
» Mera.

3539
02:18:14,880 --> 02:18:19,359
» Yes sir. Um

3540
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:20,399
» Next item announcements. Uh future

3541
02:18:19,359 --> 02:18:24,240
agenda items.

3542
02:18:20,399 --> 02:18:24,240
» Thank you. Number [laughter]

3543
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:29,519
one, uniform traffic ordinance first

3544
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:32,880
reading next meeting on the 23rd of

3545
02:18:29,519 --> 02:18:35,679
June. Uh number two, possible fireworks

3546
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:38,399
ban renewal next meeting. Uh number

3547
02:18:35,679 --> 02:18:41,200
three, 40-year water plan update July

3548
02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:44,880
16th. And number four, draft noise

3549
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:47,040
ordinance discussion to be announced. Uh

3550
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:49,280
any other changes or

3551
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:52,719
» Just the parking conversation? Y

3552
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:55,599
» And parking conversation next meeting.

3553
02:18:52,719 --> 02:18:57,040
» Okay. Um we've done all our agenda

3554
02:18:55,599 --> 02:19:00,479
items. So

3555
02:18:57,040 --> 02:19:03,280
» Could I where we are on the uh your

3556
02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:05,359
discussions with NM DOT?

3557
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,240
» It was supposed to be the end of

3558
02:19:05,359 --> 02:19:09,040
» Next month.

3559
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:10,800
» So the um our our next meeting is next

3560
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:11,679
Thursday.

3561
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:13,679
» Okay.

3562
02:19:11,679 --> 02:19:15,280
» At at 10 a.m. and then and then we go

3563
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:17,200
back to every other month. And that's

3564
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:17,679
going to have to do with uh stop signs

3565
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:20,000
and

3566
02:19:17,679 --> 02:19:21,840
» It'll it'll be ev everything. And I I

3567
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:24,000
was um going to see if we could add to

3568
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:27,760
the agenda um just a brief discussion

3569
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:29,439
about the um driveway permits because it

3570
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:31,280
it has been an issue getting those

3571
02:19:29,439 --> 02:19:32,880
approved with NMDOT.

3572
02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:35,920
» You know, I noticed the other day that

3573
02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:39,200
the new complex going up at Perea Road

3574
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:42,559
um has a long driveway off of Corell's

3575
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:44,880
Road. Is that up for discussion or is

3576
02:19:42,559 --> 02:19:46,080
that built in to the I mean what's going

3577
02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:48,720
to happen with that?

3578
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:51,040
» So the anytime a property owner brings a

3579
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:52,880
a new plat they have to get a drive so

3580
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:54,960
driveway permits do not go with the land

3581
02:19:52,880 --> 02:19:57,359
they go with the owner. So every time a

3582
02:19:54,960 --> 02:19:59,200
a property changes hands along Crowis

3583
02:19:57,359 --> 02:20:00,960
Road that new owner has to go and apply

3584
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:03,600
for a new driveway permit

3585
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:05,280
» Through NMD through NM DOT and they

3586
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:07,120
don't they don't make that clear to

3587
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:09,040
people. I think I I would assume if I

3588
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:10,640
bought a property and and I have access

3589
02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:13,600
off of Carl's Road, I would just assume

3590
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:15,439
that it's been allowed. I wouldn't know

3591
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:17,680
that I had to go and get a new driveway

3592
02:20:15,439 --> 02:20:19,040
permit to continue using that access

3593
02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:19,920
point.

3594
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:22,399
» Councelor Murray.

3595
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:23,920
» Uh thank you. So for Pere Road, can we

3596
02:20:22,399 --> 02:20:26,720
put some commas in there so it's

3597
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:27,359
$700,000, not $7 million?

3598
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:30,880
» Yes.

3599
02:20:27,359 --> 02:20:32,880
» Okay. Thanks. [laughter] And also,

3600
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:35,439
uh for the DOT discussion, let's get the

3601
02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:37,760
crosswalks back on discussion. Yeah. So,

3602
02:20:35,439 --> 02:20:39,760
the the crosswalks um those are on hold

3603
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:41,760
until after this the safety study. So,

3604
02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:44,240
the studies won't be um we won't have

3605
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:45,920
results until early fall. So, the only

3606
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:47,840
thing we're going to get from DOT at

3607
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:49,840
this next meeting is the contractor is

3608
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:52,640
working on on everything. We'll get

3609
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:53,359
results to you in you know late August,

3610
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:55,040
early September.

3611
02:20:53,359 --> 02:20:55,520
» How about the pathway from the Monasuri

3612
02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:57,920
school?

3613
02:20:55,520 --> 02:20:59,680
» Again, everything there. Well, with the

3614
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:01,120
the pathway, it's it's on the it should

3615
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:02,640
be on the agenda. They said anything

3616
02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:04,720
that has been a rolling item on the

3617
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:07,439
agenda, which that is one of them. And

3618
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:09,680
they're they're waiting on the um

3619
02:21:07,439 --> 02:21:12,319
figuring out what the right of ways are.

3620
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:16,399
So, I actually um I I did get a little

3621
02:21:12,319 --> 02:21:17,600
bit passive aggressive um with DOT. Um

3622
02:21:16,399 --> 02:21:19,200
we were having a discussion about

3623
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:20,720
cutting down the trees on the north end

3624
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:22,640
and they had informed us that the

3625
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:25,200
village must pay for that. And I said,

3626
02:21:22,640 --> 02:21:27,760
"But that's your right of way, so

3627
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:29,040
shouldn't you pay for it?" And then yes.

3628
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:30,479
Well, and then they said, "Well, I don't

3629
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:32,479
have the the right-of-way documents."

3630
02:21:30,479 --> 02:21:35,040
And I said, "Well, I do. Here you go."

3631
02:21:32,479 --> 02:21:36,479
And I emailed it to them. So,

3632
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:38,000
» That's that Margaret lady, right?

3633
02:21:36,479 --> 02:21:40,399
» Yes. Well, no, no, this was this was

3634
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:41,040
Greg, the the head the head um

3635
02:21:40,399 --> 02:21:43,120
» Yeah.

3636
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:45,040
» So, yeah, I did I did get a little pushy

3637
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:47,760
and said, you know, please review this

3638
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:49,359
and please check the the pathway along

3639
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:50,479
there and then the north end of town.

3640
02:21:49,359 --> 02:21:51,760
» You never heard from

3641
02:21:50,479 --> 02:21:54,080
» I've not heard from I have not heard

3642
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:55,439
from them yet. Yeah.

3643
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:57,600
The other question I have is with the

3644
02:21:55,439 --> 02:21:59,439
trees at north end, are they uh

3645
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:01,200
historical trees that have been approved

3646
02:21:59,439 --> 02:22:02,640
by the tree committee?

3647
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:04,319
» I don't believe so. I will double check

3648
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:06,000
the list, the landmark trees list, but

3649
02:22:04,319 --> 02:22:08,080
no, they're elm trees. So, I don't think

3650
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:09,920
that they would they would be. Yeah. No.

3651
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,600
And and that's what th those those trees

3652
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:13,600
have already been evaluated by an

3653
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:15,200
arborist and and they confirmed that

3654
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:15,760
they are diseased and they need to come

3655
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:16,640
down. So

3656
02:22:15,760 --> 02:22:18,560
» Very good.

3657
02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:20,399
» Even if they were landmark trees, that's

3658
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:22,399
the process to remove a landmark tree is

3659
02:22:20,399 --> 02:22:24,800
to get it um certified by an arborist

3660
02:22:22,399 --> 02:22:26,479
that there is a legitimate safety reason

3661
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:28,399
and having a diseased tree is a

3662
02:22:26,479 --> 02:22:29,280
legitimate safety reason. So we're

3663
02:22:28,399 --> 02:22:31,120
covered either way.

3664
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:33,200
» Thank you for all the work. I I noticed

3665
02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:35,359
twice you had to put those polls back up

3666
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:36,720
that have the that have the signs. I

3667
02:22:35,359 --> 02:22:38,319
mean that just proves the point that

3668
02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:40,800
they made earlier. They had to put up

3669
02:22:38,319 --> 02:22:43,680
those what twice already, right? They

3670
02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:45,680
they keep knocking down those signs.

3671
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:47,040
» Amazing. Anyway, thank you very much,

3672
02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:49,600
council, for this is our fifth

3673
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:51,520
consecutive uh Tuesday meeting. I think

3674
02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:53,439
» It is. It is. We actually get a little

3675
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:55,520
break next week, so we won't we won't

3676
02:22:53,439 --> 02:22:57,760
see you for two whole weeks.

3677
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:58,640
» Anyway, meeting

3678
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:00,399
you.

3679
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:03,399
» Yes.

3680
02:23:00,399 --> 02:23:03,399
Hi.