[0:00] I
>> like to call this uh
[0:06] regular council meeting to order on June
9th, 20126. Will you please turn
[0:11] yourselves off or on silent and stand
and repeat with me or uh pledge of
[0:17] allegiance?
[0:34] Thank you.
[0:38] » Roll call.
>> Councelor Mira.
[0:42] » Councelor Wman
>> here.
[0:44] » Councelor Knight
>> here.
[0:45] » Councelor Bquette
>> here.
[0:47] » Councelor Murray
>> here.
[0:49] » All present.
And
[0:53] may I have a motion to approve the
agenda, please?
[0:56] » So move.
>> Is there a motion? A second.
[0:59] » Second.
>> Any discussion?
[1:04] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:07] » Uh oppose say no. Motion carries. Uh
next item is the administrator's report.
[1:15] Melanie.
>> Thank you, mayor. Uh mayor and
[1:17] counselors, I have a couple of updates
since the administrator's report was
[1:21] written on Friday. Um one will be
especially um important to councelor
[1:25] Waldman. I do have an update on Salce
Park. um the the grant has moved to the
[1:32] next step in the process and we should
have the formal notice of award within
[1:35] the next 30 to 45 days which once we
have that then we can move forward with
[1:40] the next step with the design. So
>> excellent. Thank you.
[1:42] » Um and also the the work is proceeding
it's almost done on the um animal
[1:46] services remodel
>> ahead of schedule.
[1:48] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:49] » Thank you.
>> Ahead of schedule and under budget so we
[1:52] are good there.
Um, and then counselor night, um, I know
[1:56] you had asked Lynn for some more
information about the, um,
[2:00] adventure day that happened on Saturday
at Liam's Pond. And so Lynn gave me a
[2:05] list of the sponsors. It's a a very
large list, but it included um Coyote
[2:10] Gravel Products and Pumping Service, Hit
or Miss Archery Center, Tuk Stuckco, The
[2:15] Archery Shop, Bosi Barber Shop, Waypoint
Vehicle Uplifters, Ace Hardware, JPR, uh
[2:23] Gravel and Construction, uh the Bass Pro
Shop, and BA BMC Tactical. So, they they
[2:31] gave away $15,000
in prizes on Saturday at the at the
[2:36] event, including free fishing rods to
all of the kids that came. So, it was a
[2:41] um very successful event. I'm not sure
how many fish were caught, and I'm not
[2:45] sure if all of the tagged fish were
caught, but um
[2:48] » Sarah and they had they caught and this
was like about 10:30 and the two fish
[2:53] that came out that I saw were huge.
>> They were this big.
[2:58] » Yeah.
helping helping
[3:01] » this big. But um also, you know, um
animal services were there from the
[3:06] village and um uh of course the police
department as well as the fire
[3:11] department and Lynn. And you know, it it
was so much fun to go over there and see
[3:17] all these families together fishing and
having fun. And it even for like little
[3:22] tots, they had like a little pool filled
with fake fish that they could sit in
[3:26] and grab them. It was It was really
pretty cool.
[3:29] » Yeah, Murray.
>> Yeah. So, to follow up on that, I got a
[3:32] haircut Monday and I was talking to my
stylist and she her son participated in
[3:37] the fishing and when he caught his fish,
he was sorely disappointed because it
[3:42] was only about gay [laughter]
and everybody else was have catching the
[3:45] big ones. Well, turns out he had the
smallest fish.
[3:48] » Then he won a prize.
>> He won prize. His attitude changed
[3:51] immensely afterwards. But uh yeah, it
was pretty funny because she showed me a
[3:56] picture and it was just, you know,
>> you just had to feel for him because
[3:59] he's sitting there that then, but when
he got the award, you know, oh,
[4:05] great.
>> Yeah. I I know um of one one child, he
[4:08] he won an Xbox, so there there were some
really good prizes. So, yeah. Yeah. So,
[4:13] um we're hoping to be able to do that
again next year. So,
[4:17] » um and then let's see, what was the
other update I had for you? Oh, there
[4:22] has been a case of the new world screw
worm in New Mexico in Lee County and a
[4:26] and a dog. So, um we're we're keeping an
eye on that um for our our health and
[4:31] safety. So, um with that, oh, let's see.
Um you'll see on tonight's consent
[4:38] agenda all of the resolutions for our
our parah, our public employees
[4:42] retirement fund. And um this has been I
believe we started the process of um
[4:49] adding our employees to this about 19
years ago. Is that is that right? And we
[4:55] have been working um this has been the
goal to get our police and fire
[4:58] departments to plan five which is the
highest plan we can go. So this is this
[5:03] is an amazing day. I know a lot of our
our police and fire are here tonight um
[5:07] in support of this. So, um, thank you
for your consideration of this and for
[5:11] your, um, agreeing to pick up some of
the employees contributions on this
[5:15] because this is really helpful to the
village for our recruiting and our
[5:19] retention for our employees. So, just
wanted to say thank you in advance.
[5:24] Hopefully, it passes. With that, if
there's any questions on the report or
[5:28] any requests for next time,
>> council me.
[5:31] » Uh, thank you. So I know that I asked a
question about item five in your report
[5:36] about the U amended site plan
withdrawing his application and I
[5:41] understand now actually talking with uh
our attorney and that we do not have
[5:48] rules in place that would penalize
anybody from withdrawing their
[5:52] application. So consequently I'm
disappointed
[5:56] and there are still problems with that.
I I think that we need to go court code
[6:02] enforcement to go back and take a look
at that because he's got two entrances,
[6:07] but he was only allowed one. So, I think
it's it's incumbent that we take a look
[6:12] at the uh violations that are there and
see if we can get them resolved. But, uh
[6:18] yeah, I'm not happy with uh with that
result, but that's if that's the way it
[6:23] is. It is.
Any other comments, questions from
[6:28] councel?
>> Good.
[6:31] » Thank you, mayor.
>> Uh, moving right along. Coraleno's
[6:35] forum. This section is forformational
purposes only, not for discussion and
[6:40] debate to inform the governing body of
an issue or concern that would not be
[6:45] addressed on the agenda during the
business session. There will be a three
[6:51] minute time limit for each speaker. How
many speakers are there, Mandy?
[6:54] » 13.
Okay. All right. Uh, first speaker then,
[7:00] » Pamela Whitney.
[7:08] » Good evening.
>> Can you please state your name and
[7:10] address for the record?
>> Uh, Pamela Whitney, 942 Old Church Road.
[7:16] » Good evening. Um, I'm here to give an
update on 944 Old Church Road uh where
[7:22] there's a uh clean and lean in place
which we hope will remain in place until
[7:27] this is resolved. Um, since we I last
spoke with you, I I will let you know I
[7:32] am in here on behalf of all of the
neighbors who couldn't always be here
[7:36] tonight because they now know that the
official report from planning and zoning
[7:40] will was pushed to next week. But two of
us are here to give a report on that.
[7:46] Um, since we last spoke, there have been
uh not just uh pickup trucks coming in
[7:51] with debris, mostly metal. They're now
dump trucks. There have been four of
[7:56] them that I've seen, and another one
came at 8:30 at night and unloaded for 2
[8:01] hours. The debris of metal was piled so
high that you could see it over the edge
[8:06] of the dump truck um bringing in metal.
Um they now have so there's new material
[8:12] coming in all the time. Since they got a
report saying that it was substantially
[8:17] clean, they thought, "Oh, Ali Ali income
free. We're good to go now. Let's bring
[8:20] in more stuff." Um they built they're
building a shed 30 ft by 15 ft uh with
[8:26] no permit. Uh PNZ has been out to see
this and now has acknowledged there's
[8:31] new material that wasn't there from
their last report. In conclusion, we've
[8:36] all come to the conclusion, all the
neighbors, and I believe P&Z, that this
[8:40] is an ongoing business. It's a
scrapyard. It's a junkyard. Scrapyard
[8:44] has been in business for years. It is
their source of income. Um, scrap comes
[8:50] in, scrap goes out, scrap comes in,
scraps out. We have to assume it's being
[8:54] sold. Uh, they have worked hard to get
the flammable material out, but the
[8:59] business will remain. And we hope that
by the end of this, whatever the
[9:03] conclusion, however this is resolved, we
hoped very very much that there will be
[9:09] something in writing in the clean and
lean that says that you all have the
[9:14] right to come and inspect every four to
6 months to ensure that this business
[9:18] has been ongoing for over 30 to 40 years
does not continue to go once they feel
[9:24] they have met the requirements of the
clean and lean because this is their
[9:28] source of income which is fine. It's a
residential neighborhood and maybe in
[9:32] the old days when it wasn't so urban, it
was fine. But now they need to take the
[9:37] money that they've made from other land,
sell it, and go somewhere else to run
[9:42] their business and live peacefully as
our neighbor. Thank you very much.
[9:46] » Thank you. Next, Mandy.
>> Um Amy Clement.
[9:54] I'm Amy Clement, 942 Old Church Road,
speaking about the same property. And
[9:58] I'm sure you're tired of me speaking
about the same property. You know, kind
[10:01] of tired as well, but I just wanted to
make sure the lean and clean is um
[10:08] handled carefully, that it's not just
removed without uh lots of inspections.
[10:13] And then when it is finally removed,
there will be some kind of followup
[10:17] because I do believe they just move it
from one pile here to one pile here. But
[10:21] I also believe there are still a lot of
flammable things there because I just
[10:25] saw the 60 unused tires pile has never
been removed and that would burn for
[10:30] days. I get frustrated with Paralis
Comment because every time this is on
[10:34] the front page of Paral Comment, they
put in the title trashy neighbors blah
[10:39] blah blah. It's not about it being
trashy and I'm a Karen or like it's an
[10:43] eyesore thing. I think they're spending
all the time on a fence to hide it, but
[10:47] it's not about them being trashy at all.
It's about a fire hazard. There's all
[10:53] It's about safety, not about being an
eyesore. So, it's not about hiding it so
[10:57] we don't see it in and our feel like our
neighborhood is trashy. It's not that at
[11:01] all. It's just a a safety hazard for a
fire that will burn for days.
[11:06] » Thank you.
>> Thank you,
[11:07] » Mr. Mayor. Mor.
>> Yes,
[11:12] » if I could just interrupt for a minute.
We were expecting, I think, an update
[11:15] tonight. Could you tell us what this
post I'm sorry to interrupt, but
[11:18] » Yeah. um it would just needed a little
more time to to follow up. We're we're
[11:23] in the process of of getting quotes on
on cleaning up the property ourselves.
[11:28] So, um it it is it is still in place. It
is still moving forward. Uh we were just
[11:32] hoping to have some more information
before we gave you a formal report. So,
[11:36] it'll be part of uh Lor's monthly report
in the next council packet.
[11:40] » Thank you.
>> Thank you so much, Bob. I
[11:52] Well, I live in Corales.
First off, I recognize Cibil Sheepard
[11:58] back here. Haven't seen her for many,
many years since her husband passed.
[12:04] Great family and I miss John
all the time. Okay. [clears throat]
[12:10] Pardon me. I would still like to bring
up there's a no loadering sign. It has
[12:16] been proven to be unconstitutional.
You can loiter in a public parking
[12:20] [clears throat] lot.
So, I'd really like to get that one
[12:25] removed.
The number of coyotes are really
[12:29] increasing right now. The pups are out.
The coyotes are are going everywhere.
[12:37] Uh and then just two two things. The
number of cars that pass on the right on
[12:44] Corral's Road
is out of out of hand. Every time you
[12:49] stop to make a left-hand turn, they're
passing you on the right. They don't
[12:53] pass me, but I see it all the time. It's
illegal. They can't go on the dirt.
[13:01] But then I've been passed on also. I do
speed limit. I use cruise control cuz I
[13:08] got a heavy foot. But they're passing me
on over.
[13:12] Uh years ago, I followed the guy all the
way to his house. My wife wouldn't let
[13:16] me get out and talk to him.
But
[13:22] most of the drivers here are great. It
just it's just those few that are either
[13:26] passing on the right or passing on the
left. They're whatever they're doing,
[13:29] they're doing it wrong. Thank you. Thank
you. Next, Mandy.
[13:34] » Civil Kaiser. Yes.
[13:44] Civil Kaiser 160 West Meadow Law. Um,
I'm here to speak against a a noise
[13:52] ordinance. Um,
I we do have a a real noise problem
[13:57] corrals. The traffic there's more people
living here. Traffic is loud. You can't
[14:02] regulate that. Um, we value our farm
community all day. I listen to weed
[14:09] whackers, leaf blowers, all kinds of
motors, but I respect that people need
[14:14] to use that and we can't regulate that.
Um, I listen to I walk outside and my
[14:21] the dog barks at me all the time. The
peacock screech and the chicken the
[14:28] rooster has no regard for the dawn and
just crows all day. But you can't
[14:31] regulate that. So you're looking at
regulating music. We are so fortunate to
[14:38] have some venues, local venues where we
can go and enjoy music. And it seems
[14:43] like it's that's something that that
should we should encourage to exist
[14:49] here. Um, I understand if you're uh live
near the commercial zone, maybe it would
[14:57] not be so hard to just accommodate and
tolerate that music till 9:30. 9:30
[15:03] curfew is the only ordinance we need. I
heard an argument that just because you
[15:08] live in the commercial district, you
should um be entitled to to the same
[15:15] kind of quiet that everyone else. And
that's ridiculous. your property values
[15:19] reflect that. If you live in a more
densely populated area, it's going to be
[15:23] a little noisier. I mean, I think you
have there's other conveniences that you
[15:27] enjoy, but that's a trade-off. And I I
don't think we can expect it's not too
[15:33] much to ask for those residents to just
tolerate some tombs till 9:30 at night.
[15:41] And uh Rudy Ma
[15:55] 16 East Millark.
We are here to solve problems.
[16:01] That's those aren't my words. That's
what U. Councelor Mietta said at this
[16:05] meeting uh last Tuesday. And so let's
start solving some problems. you know,
[16:10] um,
Robert Hobbes talked about, uh, that he
[16:14] and I have some disagreements and we
agreed to disagree, but we also agreed
[16:18] to agree. And one thing we can agree on
is uh an entrance further to the north
[16:24] on on Corales Road because you know
there was uh a statement made by the PNZ
[16:31] uh administrator when we had our first
um appeal back in 2023 and we were told
[16:37] that uh the New Mexico Department of
Transportation would never grant uh
[16:42] variance.
Time out. Not true. The New Mexico
[16:46] Department of Transportation is located
at 1120 Cerillios Road in New Mexico in
[16:52] Santa Fe, which is another name for
Highway 14. In fact, the entire basic uh
[17:00] commercial district of the city of Santa
Fe is on a variance. Whether you want to
[17:04] go to the Elcourt Motel or you want to
go to Whole Foods Market, get some art
[17:08] supplies at Artisans or buy some good
food in Marisos, those businesses have
[17:13] all been granted a variance. That is
highway 14 from all the way from uh
[17:20] Department of Transportation
through uh Rodeo Road all the way up to
[17:24] where it ends in in uh in Gali Stable
Road. So I think that uh we should uh
[17:30] take a look at the parallel that we have
our same situation here that this is a a
[17:35] state highway and we're being told well
there can be no variances granted. Well
[17:39] variances have been granted to the point
that that's how uh economy of Santa Fe
[17:44] is still sustained. I think that maybe
we should take a look and councelor
[17:49] Marie mentioned about you know it was
better. He was disappointed there was
[17:52] two entrances allowed. If there's one
entrance, we would like to see it on the
[17:56] north side, but it's going to take more
than than just Robert fighting it
[17:59] himself or us the metallark or we need
the village behind us. I think we need
[18:03] the council behind us and I think we
should take this up as a problem we
[18:06] could solve. I think, you know, they say
the definition of uh being insane is to
[18:11] keep doing the same thing over and over
again. Will people keep talking over and
[18:15] over again to Margaret? I don't know who
Margaret is over at the DOT, but we
[18:19] might need to go above Margaret and
councelor Mietta. think you you had so
[18:23] much experience with the uh legislature
and you know how government works and
[18:27] all that. Uh maybe that would be
something you can be helping us out in
[18:31] in terms of uh doing what we're here for
which is to solve problems. Thank you
[18:36] very much.
>> Thank you.
[18:38] » That's Deborah de laator.
[18:47] I'm Deborah de la. I live at 28 East
Metal Arlane Pales.
[18:53] Mayor Hashimoto and councel, we have
been recently made aware due to the
[18:58] inclusion on the agenda that the
property owner Robert Hobbs of 3605
[19:02] Corales Road has withdrawn his site
development plan 2603 amendment as
[19:08] following public site development plan
hearings. The matter was appealed to the
[19:12] village council which determined that
the proposed increase in intensity
[19:17] required further review and remanded the
application to the planning and zoning
[19:21] commission. The applicant then withdrew
the request and elected to proceed under
[19:26] the previously approved original site
development plan. The owner cannot
[19:31] obtain by withdrawal what could not be
obtained through approval. By
[19:37] withdrawing the amendment to modify, the
applicant remains subject to the
[19:40] original site development plan and all
conditions associated with that
[19:44] approval. The withdrawal of the
application cannot serve as
[19:48] authorization for site improvements,
operations, or uses that differ from the
[19:53] approved plan. It has become apparent
that the site as currently constructed
[19:57] and operated may not fully conform to
the approved SDP plan
[20:03] and its conditions. Accordingly, I
request the village conduct a
[20:07] comprehensive compliance review and
require conformance with all elements of
[20:13] the approved plan, including but not
limited to restoration and construction
[20:18] of all site improvements not shown on
the original approved STP. Remove the
[20:23] shipping container, shed, storage,
fencing, concrete slabs, outdoor gazebo,
[20:27] all were added without proper
permitting. replacement of the
[20:31] screening, the walls, the fencing, the
landscaping and buffering elements that
[20:35] were existing on that original plan, but
subsequently removed, altered or never
[20:41] installed. Replacement of a 6' high
solid wood fencing at the north portion
[20:46] of the property. Tree replacement as
shown on the landscape plan. Restore a
[20:51] six-ft high wire fence on Corales Road
from the wood fence south. Then extend
[20:56] east on Metoark. Remove the access drive
around the pond. Restore the required
[21:01] runup capacity and maintenance of all
drainage, grading, and storm water
[21:05] management improvements required by the
original approved STP. Compliance of all
[21:11] approved hours of restaurant operation,
8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through
[21:16] Friday, as shown on Mr. Hob's original
application. His original application,
[21:22] hence the approval from from PNZ
originally was specifically that states
[21:28] for one small delicatessan. Hours of
business are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
[21:34] There will be no open cooking in the
delicatessan and the idea for Belle's
[21:38] deli liquor license was dropped during
the original discussion and was never
[21:43] approved. And Miss Romero's finding of
fact number seven is incorrect.
[21:49] Thank you for your attention to this
matter.
[21:52] » Thank you. Next, Mandy
>> Kathy Campbell.
[22:05] » Kathy Campbell, 8 East Metal Arc Lane.
Good evening, mayor and counselors.
[22:10] Thank you for the opportunity to address
the council of fellow Corinians tonight.
[22:14] As a resident of Palis for over 40 years
and as an appealing party in a quasi
[22:19] judicial proceeding recently heard by
the council in the special meeting on
[22:22] June 2nd, I want to express my concerns
of bea on behalf of myself and the other
[22:28] appalants regarding the process followed
particularly with regard to notice and
[22:33] adequate documentation of the proceeding
and of subsequent events. In the hearing
[22:37] on June 2nd, we were led to believe that
there would be insufficient time for the
[22:40] BNZ to review the conditions set forth
in the council's decision and it would
[22:45] most likely be heard at the council's
regular meeting on June 23rd. With that
[22:50] in mind, the opponents were surprised to
learn that the findings of fact and
[22:53] conclusions of law would be on the
agenda for re review at tonight's
[22:57] meeting and that the amended STP which
was the subject of the appeal had been
[23:02] withdrawn by the apply Mr. Hobbs. that
information was included in
[23:06] administrator's report in the agenda
packet. Another issue of concern is that
[23:10] the minutes of that appeal hearing do
not adequately reflect the testimony and
[23:15] evidence presented for appropriate
documentation of the proceeding and in
[23:19] fact refer to an incorrect STP in the
motion presented. Further, the
[23:23] withdrawal of STP 2603 should be
presented to the counselors as part of
[23:27] the appeal proceeding itself and does
not in and in and of itself relieve the
[23:33] Appal League from his responsibilities
under the original SDP. I present these
[23:38] concerns for your consideration in
addressing items number one and three on
[23:42] the agenda for tonight's meeting. Again,
mayor, counselors, and fellow Orlando,
[23:47] thank you for your time.
>> Thank you. Next,
[23:50] » Salame Ward.
[23:59] » Hi, Salame Ward, East Metal Arc Lane.
Uh, um, hi everyone. Thank you so much.
[24:05] What, you know, for what each of you
does. Um, one thing I just wanted to
[24:08] remind everyone here is, I don't know,
it raises my hackles now every time I
[24:13] hear commercial zone because we don't
have a commercial zone in uh, Corales.
[24:19] We have a neighborhood commercial zone.
So people, everyone seems to always
[24:23] forget the neighborhood part. We're all
neighbors here and it's a neighborhood
[24:28] commercial zone. Um so I think we should
all be concerned about the enjoyment and
[24:33] the health and the well-being of all of
our neighbors. Um, so what I was well I
[24:38] was going to talk about division like so
many times right now it seems that
[24:41] there's division and I still believe
that we have so much more in common and
[24:46] ultimately what we all want is to enjoy
our lives here in this beautiful village
[24:51] and to have good neighbors. Good
neighbors whether or not they're
[24:55] residents, whether they're businesses,
whether they're both, whether they have
[25:00] whether they're uh you get the idea. So,
um, so anyway, I hope that we all could
[25:06] always be good neighbors to each other.
Um, I would like to add my, uh, support
[25:12] my neighbors that just came up here and
spoke. I'm also on East Bedark and I
[25:16] share their concerns about the property,
um, at the corner there of the corner of
[25:21] Corales Road. Um, but one thing I also
wanted to mention, recently I've been to
[25:25] meetings regarding a liquor license,
regarding an appeal, um, all kinds of
[25:29] things. And it's a great learning
process, but sometimes it's frustrating
[25:33] because it seems that there's
inconsistencies or there are rules that
[25:38] are hard to understand, especially with
regards to quasi judicial or quasi
[25:42] legal. I forgot what the official term
is. Um recently um at an appeal um
[25:49] attendees were told that only the
appalants would be allowed to speak but
[25:54] then afterwards someone said to me where
did they get that rule from? That's not
[25:58] true. You were part of the initial
hearing you were also allowed to speak.
[26:02] So sometimes there's frustrating things
like that that happen. Sometimes it
[26:06] appears that um sorry like the
administrator sometimes you put your
[26:10] finger on the scale in the way things
are presented and you should be
[26:13] impartial like that shouldn't happen. So
that's frustrating. Um and also recently
[26:19] at the liquor license hearing God it's
hard to say this in front of everyone.
[26:23] Okay. Um there one of the council
members um accused people that were
[26:27] opposing the liquor license. Um there
was talk about people intentionally
[26:32] being misleading and lying and
particularly under oath because you have
[26:37] to swear an oath when you speak at a
quasi judicial process. In the end after
[26:42] the meeting it was all cleared up. It
was a misunderstanding but in the
[26:46] meantime that accusation stuck. It
stayed there that people that were
[26:52] exercising their right and speaking out
against something were kind of accused
[26:57] of of being misleading and lying. So, I
just want everybody to be careful.
[27:01] You're all our neighbors as well, and
let's try to
[27:05] bring the temperature down instead of uh
make it worse. Thank you.
[27:09] » Thank you. Next, Mandy.
>> Teddy Chavez.
[27:22] My name is Eddie Chavis. I live at 10
Mountain View Lane on the north end of
[27:26] Corales.
[27:30] Mountain View Lane is just north of the
Harvey Jones Canal and just south of the
[27:37] escurves that are going on the way
towards the tree. [snorts]
[27:45] Mountain View Lane has three other
families that live on Mountain View Lane
[27:52] as well as myself.
On a daily basis and on multiple
[27:57] occasions, I have to exit or enter
from Mountain View Lane onto Corales
[28:04] Road
130 ft from a blind curve.
[28:09] On a daily basis, I have to cross
Corella Road to pick up my menu. 2.35
[28:16] seconds from a blind curve.
On a frequent basis,
[28:22] I have a close encounter with a vehicle
coming around that blind curve as I exit
[28:27] onto Coral's road or cross to pick up my
mail.
[28:33] On a frequent basis, I get harassed for
slowing down to turn into Mountain
[28:37] Delay.
On a frequent basis, I think to myself,
[28:42] one of these days,
this has been going on for over 45 years
[28:48] that I've lived on Mountain View Lane,
except that it's happening more
[28:52] frequently.
I have witnessed several dozen
[28:56] accidents.
Two utility poles taken out, a gas
[29:02] meter, leaking gas with a wrecked car on
top of it, fences and walls knocked
[29:08] down, and even dead people.
I am here to request that the Corellus
[29:14] Police Department effectively
effectively
[29:20] increase their presence and enforcement
of the speed limit on our portion of
[29:26] Corales Road.
Actions speak louder than words.
[29:32] Let the actions of me and my neighbors
today
[29:36] um please take into account the actions
that we take and let our words speak for
[29:40] themselves. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[29:44] » Russell Shahill.
[29:51] » Uh I'm Russell Trujillo, 7596
Corales Road. I'm uh Eddie Chavis is one
[29:58] of his neighbors and uh we've been up
here before talking about the traffic
[30:04] and uh it's uh it's still a problem down
there. I do appreciate councelor Ma.
[30:12] He's helped us out quite a bit. Uh I did
talk to Steve Lecu the other day. I
[30:18] caught him down there. They were taking
pictures of the trees that need to be
[30:22] removed. I know it's going to be a long
process, but uh you know, we're still
[30:28] behind you and we still would like to
see uh something done down there, you
[30:35] know, and uh uh we noticed tonight when
I was coming the the S-curve sign in the
[30:42] south lane, it's been down for about two
or three days now. Somebody ran over it
[30:48] and uh you know, we'd really like to
have some police presence down there. Uh
[30:53] we do see it occasionally at the tree
farm. Uh the other day I went down
[30:59] Lomalara and I seen three police cars at
different areas. But I'm sure uh you
[31:05] know Lomalara doesn't have uh probably
10% of the traffic we have in Coralis
[31:11] Road on that side. So it'd really be
nice to have some police presence down
[31:18] there and uh slow down that traffic. Uh,
we also had an event down there. I guess
[31:27] it's been a month and a half ago where
we'd had trucks. I don't know what the
[31:33] the regulations for truck traffic is on
Corales Road, but we had non-stop truck
[31:39] traffic for a month and a half down
there. The big the big trucks moving
[31:44] back and forth. Probably 80,000 pounds
of load on on those trucks. I know the
[31:50] highway wasn't made for that. Either was
Lalara. They were coming from the 528
[31:56] project in Rio Rancho coming down road
and they were going somewhere over by
[32:02] the old church and back and forth all
day and it it's pretty annoying. Uh and
[32:10] uh it's just one of those things. And
another thing that we need some
[32:14] enforcement on is these new uh the trash
trailers. I mean, just today I was
[32:21] working out in my field. I counted in
two hours. I counted five of these trash
[32:27] trailers. I don't know if you know what
I mean. They're uh they seem like
[32:31] they're everywhere. Every every
contractor has one now, but they're all
[32:35] going to the county dump and it's
nonstop. Some days it's non-stop.
[32:41] Some guys have their loads tied down,
but I have picked up a lot of trash off
[32:47] the highway in front of my house from
stuff just bouncing off those trailers.
[32:51] And uh sometimes I think they're going
to stop and come and pick it up, but
[32:56] they never do. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[33:00] » Is Isabella Trill.
[33:07] » Hello. Isabella Trujillo 7596 Corales
Road. Um I will also express as my
[33:14] neighbors and father have explained that
it's a very dangerous S-curve down there
[33:19] at the north end of Corales. Um and we
are continuing to live with it. Um and I
[33:27] hope we can get some sort of resolve
with that as well. Um, I'd also like to
[33:32] um mention for the public that the Kraas
farmland preservation
[33:37] um program has been opened again,
application program has been opened
[33:42] again as the council had approved it.
Um, and I want to make sure that that is
[33:47] known for the public. It the application
process closes on June 22nd in about a
[33:52] little about two weeks. So any land
owners interested in placing their
[33:56] property in a conservation easement,
please reach out to the village um about
[34:01] that process. So you can find the
application on the village website. It's
[34:05] also you can go to the admin office and
get it. You can return it in person or
[34:09] email it back. Um and then the the
process will begin from there. So if
[34:14] anyone is interested or has questions, I
do have some flyers available and or
[34:19] just go to the village website and check
that out. Um, this is one of the only
[34:25] programs that the village offers to
support farming in Corales. So, please
[34:30] take advantage of it. Um,
and yes, this is a really important
[34:36] program that we have here.
You could potentially get some money out
[34:40] of it. So, we need to really support our
agriculture, our farmers in this
[34:44] village. And this is one of the uh one
way that we can really do that. And
[34:49] again, please continue supporting local
agriculture. Come to the growers market.
[34:54] Every Sunday, 9 to noon until November.
We are there. And there's a lot of food
[34:59] that we are producing here in the
village. And people need to eat it. So,
[35:03] please come to the market, get your
food, and um help us continue supporting
[35:08] agriculture in the village. And that
also helps with less traffic on the
[35:12] roads because there's less houses being
developed, so there's less cars, so more
[35:18] property is being used in farmland.
Thank you very much.
[35:21] » Thank you.
>> Next, Mandy,
[35:24] » Ran Garfield.
[35:29] » Hello, I'm Ran Garfield. Uh I'm at 7532
Parales Road and I'm speaking about the
[35:36] the
line curve at the north end. Uh my
[35:41] family has lived in Palace for over 50
years and our property is located
[35:46] between the Jones Channel to the south
and the tree farm to the north. We are
[35:51] dead center on the infamous blind curve.
There has been much property damage over
[35:56] these years, including fence damage, gas
meters having to be relocated,
[36:02] mailboxes being run over, power poles
being knocked over, and also some
[36:07] fatalities.
[36:10] The yellow arrow signs put on the curb
by the highway department in front of
[36:14] our property have even been mowed down.
The work done by the village government
[36:19] so far is is much appreciated.
With the everinccreasing amount of
[36:24] traffic, it is becoming more treacherous
to pull in and out of our driveways and
[36:29] to cross the road on foot than we
irrigate our property. A concentrated
[36:34] police presence is needed to slow down
the traffic on this blind curve and a
[36:39] reduction of the speed limit would help
the most. Thank you.
[36:44] » Thank you.
Next, may
[36:47] » uh Ken Dehoff.
[36:54] » Good evening, uh, mayor and counselors.
I'm Ken Dehoff.
[36:59] Uh, I live at 7648
Corales Road, or at least it was 7648
[37:06] Corales Road before Lorie Stout made me
name my driveway. It's now Bad Coyote.
[37:12] So, we're Bad Coyote Farm and we are 100
ft south of the tree farm and I'm here
[37:19] to support my neighbors
uh to mention that we all met with
[37:25] Representative Kates and Councelor
Mierra last year. We had what I thought
[37:31] were really good, productive
conversations
[37:36] about doing something to improve safety.
I I just my my mailbox story is that I
[37:43] see UPS and FedEx trucks
cross the yellow line, cross the
[37:49] dividing line coming up to our house and
then they overcorre correct right into
[37:55] where my mailbox is. So I just have to I
have to be very mindful of not being at
[38:01] my mailbox when I see something coming
up from Mountain View. And I can just I
[38:07] can see that and say, "Okay, as long as
it's clear, I got enough time to get up,
[38:11] get my mail, and get out of there." And
so, it would be
[38:17] uh helpful to follow through on what we
talked about last year. And I'm going to
[38:24] give you a word and some personal advice
called persistence with my second topic,
[38:33] which is that uh tomorrow evening in the
Sandival County Commission, the county
[38:39] commission is going to be voting
uh to determine that the Sandival County
[38:45] Assessor has abandoned her role by
taking a job with the state treasurer.
[38:53] Uh I don't know if anybody has seen the
Larry Barker
[38:58] uh article about that. Uh if you
haven't, it's worth seeing. And
[39:05] you all know that I have been one word
persistent
[39:12] on trying to protect the rights of land
owners in Corales. And I'm doing it with
[39:17] my own property. But persistence
requires
[39:24] effort and it requires continuous
effort. I mean the mayor showed up here
[39:30] regularly. I mean if you remember we
have a number of people that show up
[39:37] regularly on an issue. That persistence
is I think what we on the north end are
[39:43] asking from the council
to help us improve safety on the north
[39:49] end of Corales Road. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[39:59] » Next item is the consularor's forum.
This section is forformational purposes
[40:05] only, not for discussion and debate, to
inform the governing body of an issue or
[40:10] concern that would not be addressed on
the agenda during the business session.
[40:15] Any counselors?
[40:20] Council me. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I
want to just uh take some time to not on
[40:25] the agenda. So therefore, I'll say
wanted to thank uh all of you for
[40:29] showing up, but specifically my
constituents who have been uh very kind
[40:35] and taking their time, understanding
that we need to take our time with the
[40:39] state, but I continue working with them
and they continue working with us. And
[40:43] so I want to thank them for coming and
uh Tim that as I've told you you make
[40:48] your your uh your statements here and
they're going record but mostly we get
[40:52] used to seeing you and then maybe we
think maybe it's nice if we didn't see
[40:57] them so much so because we took care of
their issues. So I want to thank you for
[41:02] reminding us of what we need to do and
uh I'll end it Mr. Mayor by just saying
[41:06] what bothers me the most. These people
do have to cross from one side of the
[41:11] street to the other to get their mail
cuz we we can't move the mailboxes. They
[41:14] might get run over, but uh no, not the
not the people in mailboxes, but uh
[41:19] nonetheless, you have to cross the
street. And to me, that's so disturbing,
[41:23] but everybody else along Corales Road
has to do that, too. So, uh thank you
[41:27] very much for reminding us of what uh we
can do to help you. So, thank you very
[41:31] much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
>> Sure. Any other counselors who would
[41:34] like to speak?
[41:38] Okay,
next item, consent agenda. May I have a
[41:42] motion to approve the consent agenda,
please?
[41:47] » So move.
>> I'll second.
[41:50] » Any discussion?
Councelor Murray and Council Wman and
[41:55] Mera. Yeah. So, with the uh application
for the harvest festival and closing the
[42:00] crossroad, how do residents get to the
post office on those days when uh the
[42:05] road is closed?
[42:10] » I don't know.
>> I'm just curious because, you know, it
[42:13] does say road closure, but if residents
need to get to the post office,
[42:16] especially on Saturday when it's open,
uh they need some mechanism by which
[42:20] they can get to the post office.
I I know in the past you've been able to
[42:25] to go in and and park at the rec center.
I I don't know if they can park there
[42:30] and and walk. We We'll find out for you.
>> Well, I mean, post office obviously has
[42:34] their own parking lot. That's federal
property. So, if anybody is using that
[42:39] for the harvest festival, uh they may be
in violation of federal law. So, I don't
[42:44] know. But, uh it seems like to me that
uh we need to have that uh you know,
[42:49] discussed.
Councilwoman,
[42:53] » a very minor point, but uh on the ditch
run application, I think it should
[42:57] probably read um that this is the third
year of the uh ditch run rather than the
[43:02] 30th year.
So,
[43:04] » okay,
>> thank you Mira.
[43:07] » Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh two
different questions. Um one would be uh
[43:12] going back to Pamela's first statement
and all those that were here on Church
[43:17] Road. Um,
anyone, but I was looking for PNZ. Do we
[43:23] even have even if we could, if we don't
have a special zoning for a scrapyard at
[43:31] all in Corales,
we do. We don't. So, there's there's no
[43:37] even if somebody's doing legally or
illegally.
[43:39] » Lori Lori is here.
>> Oh, Lori, is she here? I was used to Oh,
[43:42] there you are. I'm used to seeing you in
the back. Lori, you could answer it from
[43:46] back there or whatever. I mean, is there
such a Okay, that'll be fine. You
[43:50] understand my question, right? Is there
such a thing as a I know in other
[43:53] counties and other areas, other cities,
they do have we do we even have such a
[43:57] thing as a permit for a scrapyard?
>> No, we don't. Okay. Especially not in a
[44:03] residential area. If somebody tried to
do that as a commercial enterprise, they
[44:07] would have to do a site development plan
and it would be subject to that review.
[44:11] But there's no such thing for um
residential. So, if we find somebody in
[44:15] violation of whatever it is and they
have a scrapyard, they're they're
[44:19] violating.
>> Correct. We can we can if you're talking
[44:22] about the Clean and Lean property,
that's going away, too. The Clean and
[44:26] Lean is far from dead. I It is not
substantially compliant. They built yet
[44:30] another new building. So, we're
gathering bids to get rid of that and
[44:34] and the scrap and whatever tires, etc.
Yeah. And going along that same, is
[44:38] there such a thing as a construction
yard or is it the same thing that we do
[44:42] or do not have any permission for?
>> Well, I can tell you there was a
[44:45] residence that got a home occupation and
it was a very small one. It was supposed
[44:49] to be an office for a construction
company and over the years about 20
[44:53] years it morphed into a full-on
construction yard and after much you
[44:59] know appealing and court case etc etc it
was removed. So that that's over and
[45:04] above what would typically be allowed
for any home occupation. Again, if it's
[45:08] commercial, it would be subject to PNZ
review, but not in not in a residential
[45:12] zone.
>> Thank you. And my final one is um I
[45:16] guess it was Amy, and I could be wrong.
Uh correct me if I'm wrong, but uh Sid
[45:20] on the consent agenda, one and three
were maybe out of whack or is is there
[45:25] any uh thing that we need to know about
it as council or myself as counselor?
[45:30] » I'm sorry, I don't understand the
question. One and three. What
[45:32] » on the consent agenda? One and three, I
believe.
[45:35] » I I think she meant the findings of fact
that
[45:38] » Okay. Where is that one? On the next
page.
[45:40] » No, it's under It's under um consent
agenda, right?
[45:44] » Yeah, that's number one on the consent
agenda.
[45:46] » Is is are those in line?
Maybe I should ask uh Melanie,
[45:53] are we okay by if we because we know the
consent agenda. If we approve the
[45:56] consent agenda, we approving those and
are they online? Are they okay? Yes,
[46:01] they they those are written by our
attorney and this this is what would go
[46:05] if if it progressed to um somebody
taking it to uh magistrate court that
[46:12] would be what the the court yes that the
the court would look at those those
[46:16] findings effect. So this is the
>> sort of the official record that goes in
[46:20] hand with with the minutes and um we we
do have a typo in the minutes for those
[46:25] under the motion. It says 2602 site
development plan 2602. I believe it
[46:30] should be 2603. So we'll we'll make that
correction before those get get posted.
[46:35] » Thank you. That's all I have.
>> Councor Murray.
[46:37] » Uh back to the harvest festival. Are
they not using the uh law park and the
[46:44] village parking facilities for harvest
festival? But I did not see any drawings
[46:49] as there were last year. And I'm just
curious uh are they using these two
[46:55] facilities as well or is it just going
to be a rec center?
[46:58] » They they are using those for the um the
artists the vendors and then the the
[47:04] other vendors will be in the
>> in our packet. I am not sure
[47:11] » uh because what I was curious about and
I asked this question last year I will
[47:15] ask again this year is of the
applications that the village has
[47:19] received how many are within the village
and how many are outside the village in
[47:25] terms of business licenses the
applications that go with the harvest
[47:29] festival
>> is anybody from the harvest festival
[47:32] here tonight
[47:37] It's always a good idea for anyone who
has a consent agenda. I don't
[47:41] » Tony's here.
>> Tony Mes Tony, why don't you get up and
[47:44] answer the question, please?
[47:52] » I'm sorry, counselor. Uh, ask me again.
I heard most of it, but I'm not sure
[47:57] what the final question was.
>> All right. Final question is how many
[48:00] applications have you received that are
with from within the village and how
[48:05] many applications are from outside the
village
[48:07] » for the vendors for the food trucks for
>> well for the vendors for
[48:11] » the short answer is I don't have and I
don't know that we tabulate we can it's
[48:16] not all that terribly difficult um how
many of the artists are correlenos how
[48:24] many are from outside the village
um it would be easier because we used to
[48:31] give the Coral Angos like a $10 break or
something. And the food trucks, I don't
[48:36] believe any of the food trucks are from
within are based within Corales or owned
[48:43] by Coralenos.
>> I would agree with that.
[48:46] » Um
I think a
[48:50] offthe cuff Sy's here. She might have it
better on board. Well, I mean, last time
[48:55] it was uh by business licenses purchased
at the village offices by those
[49:01] requiring because they had to be
licensed within the
[49:05] » we do uh mandate that they get a
business registration.
[49:10] » Yes,
>> that they they may not be here without
[49:14] that registration.
>> I was just curious maybe the village had
[49:17] something, you know, with that.
>> Can can I interject a thought on that?
[49:20] Um, any business that's already in the
village wouldn't go get a business
[49:24] license for the grow for the harvest
vessel. They would already have one. So,
[49:27] that would be a tough metric as well
because if they're already operating in
[49:30] compliance, they already have a business
license.
[49:32] » But the village should have a you know,
if he's if he's got a list, it should
[49:37] match up with the village licenses,
>> right? I think if if you apply for a
[49:43] vendor table, it seems like you put your
address down on it on that uh on that
[49:48] vendor application
>> that is required on
[49:52] » and so you should
the data should be there as far as where
[49:56] the vendors are are from
>> if
[50:02] I don't think I'm committing this too
much. We can get that information to
[50:06] you. I the food trucks I'm pretty sure.
>> I'm just curious, you know, as to
[50:11] participation, you know, how many are
inside the building or participating
[50:14] versus the outside building.
>> We also have the businesses
[50:19] that are staged over here around this
building. Um, and I think most of those
[50:26] are not coroused. When we get to the
artists, I think a good percent very
[50:32] solid percentage of
>> I was just curious too also why the maps
[50:35] weren't included for the village parking
lot in launch audit.
[50:40] » They I know they were in because I
submitted the event happen. Okay.
[50:44] » So I know they were attached. I
>> Yeah, it it may have Yeah. I I I don't
[50:50] know. I wasn't um involved in that part,
but it may have been when it brought got
[50:55] brought over from the parks and recck
commission. Maybe a page got misplaced.
[50:59] I'm not too sure, but what we can we can
track that down. And also just a point
[51:03] of order, if if we have if we want to
discuss items on the consent agenda,
[51:06] they really should be pulled off for
discussion. So this we're really kind of
[51:10] out of order here. So just
just saying
[51:16] » if anybody wanted to pull an item off of
the agenda,
[51:21] » councelor Wman.
>> Yes. [clears throat] only um for points
[51:25] of clarification the um
all the issues dealing with uh parah
[51:31] just so we can get a further uh
explanation for the police and fire and
[51:36] um staff.
[51:40] » Can we pull those off as a group or do
we have to pull them off individually?
[51:43] » As a group is fine.
>> I can make a motion. So just make a
[51:45] motion to pull off items four through
eight.
[51:48] I make a motion we remove items four
through eight uh from the consent agenda
[51:52] for further discussion.
>> Any any discussion on that?
[51:58] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[52:01] » Opposed say no.
>> Motion carries. Okay.
[52:06] » So then we should approve the the motion
to the consent agenda agenda and then
[52:11] you can move on. Yeah.
>> Unless somebody wants to discuss this
[52:15] some more.
items one through three. Any more
[52:19] discussion?
Okay. Um,
[52:24] so there's a motion in a second to
approve the consent agenda numbers 1,
[52:28] two, and three.
>> Also, items seven and eight or I'm
[52:31] sorry, nine and 10. They're on the back
of the agenda.
[52:34] » And nine and 10. Um,
[52:40] all in favor, please say I.
>> I.
[52:43] » Oppose, say no. Motion carries.
Going to the items four through six.
[52:50] Four through eight. Now they were
withdrawn from the consent agenda. Um
[52:56] is there a motion to approve them? Is
there discussion?
[52:59] » Motion to approve.
>> Any second discussion? No. Mr.
[53:05] » Mayor, I raised this issue. We have a
number of members of both fire and
[53:09] police and and village staff here
tonight. And um
[53:15] I just wanted to uh add what uh the
administrator said earlier, how much we
[53:19] appreciate uh all their efforts. Uh we
actually had a uh two uh firefighters
[53:26] come out and do a fire inspection uh to
back up the uh uh business license
[53:31] application for uh animal rescue group
for harvest festival today. And they
[53:36] were terrific. And uh it's just
emblematic of what this what this
[53:40] village has. And perhaps uh Melanie, you
could talk about the history of where
[53:45] you said it's it's taken many many years
to get to to this level. Yeah.
[53:48] » And what it really means for
for our employees.
[53:52] » Yeah. So so what this means is now uh
the police and fire department are at
[53:56] the highest level. When when they
retire, they will get the maximum amount
[54:00] available to them. Um, so if somebody
were to start now and they worked the
[54:04] the right number of years, they
theoretically could retire on 100% of
[54:09] their their highest salary when when
they do retire. So our our current
[54:14] employees who have been with us a long
time, they they they get different
[54:17] buckets. So they get the the buckets
that they earned when we were under, you
[54:21] know, plan one and plan two and then
plan three. We're skipping plan four and
[54:25] now we're going to plan five. So, this
this really um will take care of our our
[54:29] firefighters after they've they've
completed their careers here with us and
[54:33] and our police department. Sorry, Chief.
Didn't didn't mean to forget you guys.
[54:38] Um so, police and fire. Um and also this
this process for these five resolutions.
[54:46] We started this exa almost exactly a
year ago. So the I was looking back at
[54:51] my emails last night and this kicked off
I believe July 7th of last year with
[54:55] with um Deputy Chief Latin had sent an
email to our PAR representative and said
[55:01] how do we start this process and we have
multiple emails back and forth of you
[55:05] know this is what you need to do and
then we would wait for them and this is
[55:08] what you need to do. So we would send
them you know our um our drafts and then
[55:12] we'd have to wait a couple of weeks and
then we'd get those back. So yeah, just
[55:16] just this portion has been a year in the
making.
[55:20] » But this also affects uh the village
employees.
[55:24] » Yes. Right.
>> Yep.
[55:26] » Thank you for keeping us safe. Be safe
out there.
[55:32] » So yeah, they um so the the the
remainder of the village employees that
[55:36] are under municipal plan two um
unfortunately plan two is the highest we
[55:41] can go for our municipal staff. They
they do offer up to plan four, but they
[55:44] locked out plans three and and four a
long time ago before the village um had
[55:48] the opportunity to um take advantage of
that for our municipal employees. So, uh
[55:53] what what we're doing for our municipal
staff is the village is picking up a
[55:57] portion of their um their contributions.
So that this will will pick up the
[56:03] contributions for police and fire so
that they they don't pay any more into
[56:08] or they they aren't having deducted from
their paycheck anymore than they
[56:11] currently are under plan three. So the
village is picking up the remainder of
[56:15] that. And then for municipal staff,
they're dropping from the 12 point I
[56:21] think it's 12.65%
down to about 9%. And you know, and I
[56:26] know when you look at the resolutions,
it looks weird because it says, you
[56:29] know, we're picking up 48%, but it's a
percentage over a percentage. And I had
[56:32] to break out my math brain and go back
to, you know, high school algebra and be
[56:36] like, okay, I'm doing a percentage of a
percentage. And, um, we had some
[56:40] discussions back and forth about what
was the proper way to do that. So, um,
[56:43] but yeah, no, this has been a very long
process. And this was the the dream back
[56:49] when they very first, um, voted for PRA
19 years ago. So, for and as part of
[56:56] many other reasons.
>> You hear their presence right now.
[56:58] » Yeah, exactly.
>> And I'd like to thank uh public safety,
[57:02] too. And as I wrote in the mayor's
report, New Mexico is number one and and
[57:07] u uh property crimes number two in
violent crimes. And fortunately, Corales
[57:12] is number one probably in the state and
having a good crime record and and a big
[57:18] part of that is probably our public
safety, our police, and our fire
[57:22] departments. Uh, and so I think they um
they they really make us a a place to
[57:28] live. Um, and I think doing giving them
an increase in their parah helps
[57:34] retention. I mean, that's a big thing.
You know, we're competing with
[57:37] municipalities who have more bucks than
we do.
[57:41] » And to to keep our
roles of public safety employees, you
[57:48] know, we have to compete somehow and
sometimes we can't compete salary wise.
[57:51] So the PAR really helps and so I I I
really encourage support of this.
[57:58] » Yep. Thank you.
>> Uh councelor Mera.
[58:01] » Thank you Mr. Mayor. Hopefully just a
real quick question. Tanya on this one
[58:05] if you can go back about 20 some years
ago maybe 30 unfortunately. Uh we had a
[58:10] perra situation and a erb uh situation
in Santa Fair. Are you familiar with
[58:16] that a little bit?
>> Mayor, council administrator Romero.
[58:21] Yes.
>> Okay. Uh and you know how that one was
[58:23] unequal and boy they've been trying to
make that equalized as representative
[58:27] over here for the last 30 years. Does
this help or if not does it make it
[58:33] equal and even if do plan five and doing
46% and the 23% will that even and make
[58:40] it equal starting from here on out? So,
mayor, council, administrator Romero, do
[58:48] you mean equal to what most
municipalities do? No.
[58:52] » So, you go to each other in terms of
>> So, there's tier one. Yeah.
[58:56] » So, to be in tier one for PAR, you had
to be into PAR before July 1st of 2013.
[59:02] » Okay.
>> So, some of us are old enough.
[59:05] » I think there's three of us still left
that are in tier one. And then I got two
[59:10] back there that are in tier two. So the
main things that changes is tier tier
[59:16] one we we are at a 20 year retirement.
We can go up to 100. I will remind you
[59:22] I'm blended. I'm one two three and five.
So but people who are tier one
[59:28] technically can go to a 20-year
retirement um or stay and then it builds
[59:32] up to up to 180 100% of their top three
years. two or two employees it's 25
[59:39] years and then they can build up.
>> Okay.
[59:42] » Um
what we proposed when chief was doing
[59:46] this is right now fireplace we paid 13%
of our salary to PAR what we pay you're
[59:54] paying
20.8
[59:57] this is off the top of my head police
pays 10% of their salary to PAR village
[1:00:03] staff pays 12.65 65. We proposed just to
keep it well, we first proposed it to
[1:00:09] keep it at 10 and 12.5, but we we went
to three instead. So then we proposed to
[1:00:14] keep it at 12.5 or 13 and 10.5 and then
drop the others. Um mo you can only pick
[1:00:22] up 75%. That is state law. State law
says a municipality cannot pick up any
[1:00:27] more than 75% of the employees per so a
lot of municipalities do pick up all but
[1:00:32] 4%. But we knew that this is the
village. So we said we've been doing
[1:00:37] this. We we our staff is surviving.
Let's we'll do it this way.
[1:00:41] » Okay.
>> And we respectfully hope you vote for
[1:00:43] it.
>> Okay. Thank you,
[1:00:45] » Council Murray.
>> Yeah. So that does raise point though.
[1:00:48] If you hire somebody who has a number of
years either one or two, does it take
[1:00:54] him x number of years to get to the
number five or they automatically moved
[1:00:58] into step five?
Mayor, Council, and Administrator
[1:01:02] Merrill, that's a really good question.
I've actually done a lot of research on
[1:01:06] that recently because I've been with the
village and she chief's been with
[1:01:11] village since 96. I've been here since
97 before PAR. So, we could buy time. We
[1:01:16] we could buy time to retire at a lower
rate than airtime. Um,
[1:01:22] but what they're going to do is they're
going to look at how long I was at one,
[1:01:28] how long I was at two, how long I was at
three, how long I stay at five. And
[1:01:34] there's math calculations they're going
to do and say cuz right now for fire and
[1:01:38] I believe police it's 3.5 is our tier
one multiplier.
[1:01:44] Um, they're going to look at all of us
and say,
[1:01:49] "This is your number. You're at 2 for so
long, 2.5 for so long, you're at 3.5 for
[1:01:55] so long." And they're going to multiply
it together and maybe I'm 3.2. I won't
[1:02:00] know till I go sit down with PAR. But
they they are going to blend it. So the
[1:02:04] longer I'm in PAR 5, the better it is.
But for chief trying to build so when we
[1:02:10] all retire that you have staff that have
been here and want to continue serving
[1:02:14] the public in the way that we've grown
accustomed to.
[1:02:18] They will be not blended.
>> Thank you.
[1:02:22] » Okay. Any other questions or discussion
on this?
[1:02:31] Are we prepared? Go ahead.
>> Move approval.
[1:02:33] » Okay. Uh second.
>> Second.
[1:02:37] Okay. Are are we are we including four
through eight then?
[1:02:43] » Yes. Okay. Why you make a motion then?
>> Just as a a generic point of order
[1:02:46] because we pulled them from the consent
agenda. We have to go through them one
[1:02:50] by one. I I apologize for that but it is
the way it has to be. Thank you.
[1:02:54] » You're the worst. [laughter]
>> In that case I I move approval for item
[1:03:00] number four.
>> Second.
[1:03:02] » Any discussion? All in favor, please say
I. I. Roll call vote because it's a
[1:03:07] recipe.
It's going to take a little roll call.
[1:03:12] Councelor Mera.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:03:13] » Councelor Wman.
>> Hi.
[1:03:14] » Councelor Knight. Hi.
>> Councelor Bouquet.
[1:03:16] » Hi.
>> Councilor Murray.
[1:03:17] » Yes. Four times.
[laughter]
[1:03:20] » Nice try.
>> Can I have a motion to approve item
[1:03:25] number five?
>> Approve item five.
[1:03:27] » Any second?
>> Any discussion?
[1:03:32] Um, so we'll call for a roll call vote.
Councelor Mera.
[1:03:36] » Yes, sir.
>> Councelor Wman, hi.
[1:03:38] » Councelor Knight. Councelor Bet.
>> Hi.
[1:03:40] » Councelor Murray.
>> Yes.
[1:03:42] » Good. Motion carries. Um, I have a
motion to approve item number six and
[1:03:49] » second. We'll give it tonight.
[1:03:55] » I'll second that.
>> Okay. Any discussion?
[1:04:00] All in favor, please say I.
>> No.
[1:04:05] » Councelor Mley,
>> yes.
[1:04:06] » Councelor Mette,
>> I councelor N.
[1:04:08] » Councelor Wman. Hi.
>> Councelor Mera.
[1:04:10] » Yes, sir.
>> Uh, item number six. May I have a motion
[1:04:14] to approve item number six?
>> Item seven, I think.
[1:04:19] » Item seven, I'm sorry.
>> So, move.
[1:04:21] » Second.
>> Uh, any discussion?
[1:04:25] Roll call vote. Councelor Mera.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:04:28] » Councelor Wman.
>> Hi. Councelor Knight.
[1:04:29] » Hi.
>> Councelor Bquette.
[1:04:30] » I.
>> Councelor Murray.
[1:04:32] » Yes.
>> I have a motion to approve item number
[1:04:34] eight. Now
>> so move.
[1:04:36] » Second.
>> Any discussion?
[1:04:40] » Roll call vote. Councelor Murray.
>> Yes.
[1:04:42] » Councelor Burquette.
>> I.
[1:04:43] » Councelor Knight.
>> Councelor Wman.
[1:04:45] » Hi.
>> Councelor Mera.
[1:04:46] » Yes, sir.
>> Motion carries. So items four through
[1:04:50] eight all were approved. Uh Chief, you
want to say a few words?
[1:05:01] Mayor, council, administrator. Um, just
want to say thank you. Um, I'm looking
[1:05:07] up here at the pictures of the mayors
and stuff and I heard a word earlier
[1:05:12] about persistence and I could tell you
that from I wasn't always, you know,
[1:05:17] chief at the time, but we've always been
an advocate for our staff and employees.
[1:05:21] when I became chief, I've been
persistent uh to the point of, you know,
[1:05:26] every budget we have to look at, you
know, do we do a cost of living or can
[1:05:32] we increase our our costs or employees
wages and it was almost like even and
[1:05:37] odd years and then the odd years were
like how can we try to justify pay so
[1:05:41] it's literally 19 years in the making
and I just want to mayor thank you for
[1:05:47] you know our budget meetings and and
hearing us out the police chiefs behind
[1:05:51] me here. Uh I'm speaking on behalf of
the fire department, but this is huge
[1:05:55] for us as far as my staff here for me
all the time. Thank you and what a good
[1:06:00] job they're doing. But tonight by with
your vote, you're showing not only the
[1:06:05] staff of the village, your employees
that serve this community how much you
[1:06:10] appreciate that. So, thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:06:18] Castle. Uh I echo what the fire chief
said. Just thank you and we are
[1:06:22] confident it's going to help with
recruitment and retention which has been
[1:06:25] a battle for us uh competing with these
large agencies in the metro area here
[1:06:30] and uh may have already worked. We have
a guy starting with us on Tuesday and we
[1:06:34] told him it wasn't a done deal yet but
this was one of the selling points. So
[1:06:37] thank you very much.
>> Thank you very much.
[1:06:43] Mayor, what question? Good.
>> Yes, councelor Mur.
[1:06:45] » Could both uh the chiefs uh tell us
where your staffing levels are at right
[1:06:50] now?
>> We are at uh will be Tuesday at 16 out
[1:06:55] of 17 sworn positions. So that's the 6%
uh vacancy rate and we have another
[1:07:00] applicant who is certified in the
background phase right now. If we do
[1:07:05] reach full staffing, the 17 out of 17
budgeted positions, it'll be the first
[1:07:10] time since 2021,
at which time we were only budgeted 15
[1:07:14] positions. When we when we got bumped up
to 16 and then to 17, we never reached
[1:07:19] the maximum number.
>> Thank you, Chief.
[1:07:21] » So, thank you.
[1:07:27] » I apologize. I didn't hear the question.
>> I was just wondering where your current
[1:07:30] staffing levels at. or how many
positions are open or full staff or
[1:07:34] » mayor, council, we're at full staff. Uh
we have we have hired uh our our
[1:07:40] vacancies have been filled. So we're
currently in the process of training
[1:07:43] them. We started last week. Uh this is
the second week in training and we're
[1:07:47] doing we're starting with uh internal
trainings with wildland. focus on
[1:07:51] wildland fire that we could do in house.
And then we're actively looking for uh
[1:07:56] EMT classes availability and then of
course the fire one, fire two uh
[1:08:02] certifications through the state of New
Mexico at the Sakura Academy.
[1:08:06] » Thank you very much, G.
>> Yeah, thank you.
[1:08:08] » Thank you.
[1:08:15] Uh, next item, old business number one,
consideration, action, and approval of
[1:08:20] resolution 2615,
publication for ordinance 2602, an
[1:08:26] ordinance providing no parking areas
along residential streets, neighboring
[1:08:31] commercial establishments. Uh, may I
have a motion to open this up?
[1:08:37] » So move.
>> Second.
[1:08:40] Okay, there's been a motion to second.
Any discussion?
[1:08:44] Yes, Councelor Murray.
>> Thank you, Mayor. So, uh, in looking at
[1:08:48] this draft, I have come to the
conclusion that the parking ordinance
[1:08:53] does not belong in zoning. I believe it
belongs somewhere either in 1492, which
[1:08:58] is the I think the uh current legal or
where things are cited, but it needs a
[1:09:05] little bit of work. Uh, I'm not totally
agree. I mean, I don't totally disagree
[1:09:10] with all the language, but I think it
just needs to be reorganized and put
[1:09:13] into 1492 rather than under 1839.
Also, uh there are concerns I have about
[1:09:20] the uh changing the seating ordinance
because there are some issues there that
[1:09:26] uh we haven't addressed. That is that
one, you're asking to amend the seating
[1:09:32] ordinance and not repeal the previous
one. So either we need to repeal the old
[1:09:37] ordinance and insert this one as new
language because if we don't we're going
[1:09:41] to have confliction because you've got
an old ordinance and a new ordinance and
[1:09:45] there's conflicting uh components of
both if you have both of them at the
[1:09:50] same time. So I think we need to repeal
the original 1839 C2 and then insert the
[1:09:56] new language at that point. You also
need to grandfather in the existing STPs
[1:10:02] because if you don't, then if somebody
asks an amended STP, they're going to
[1:10:07] have to come in under the new language.
And is that fair for our businesses that
[1:10:11] if they have to want to amend their SDP
that now they have to comply with the
[1:10:16] new seating ordinance and the parking
versus the old one that they originally
[1:10:21] got their uh site development plan
under? So, there are some things there I
[1:10:26] think need to be addressed. I I know
this. I worked on this about all
[1:10:30] afternoon trying to figure out how to
reorganize this and it's and councelor
[1:10:35] Bquerette will kill me because I got 14
different amendments that I need.
[1:10:40] [laughter]
He's going to murder me. Step out the
[1:10:43] door, you know.
>> But I I just really think that we need
[1:10:47] to readress this and move it into 1492
or some other location where it is now
[1:10:52] an enforcement issue and not a zoning
issue. A question might be, you know, do
[1:10:58] you think there they're different issues
and they ought to be addressed different
[1:11:02] issues instead of lumped together all in
one uh ordinance. That does bring up the
[1:11:06] question about we were putting one uh we
were creating a paragraph 15 that was to
[1:11:12] go in under 1492
and I think we just need to create a new
[1:11:16] subsection that deals with enforcement
and that way it doesn't there was an
[1:11:21] issue where you might have an officer
who might site somebody and then he
[1:11:26] could have his vehicle towed at the same
time. Now is that correct? I don't know,
[1:11:30] but I think we need to take a look at
that and just uh I think there are
[1:11:33] things there that we just need to
resolve before we put this into an
[1:11:36] ordinance.
>> Briquette.
[1:11:39] » Uh thank you, mayor. Um so two kind of
separate points or thoughts. One is on
[1:11:45] this what you're talking about as far as
the
[1:11:48] um parking per two chairs. Um I don't
think it I don't think it's a reasonable
[1:11:54] number. Um, I went to two of our
probably most reputable establishments
[1:11:58] in town. From a parking standpoint, I've
never heard a single complaint about
[1:12:02] overflow parking. Um, one of them has a
100 seats and 25 parking spots. Um, the
[1:12:08] other one has 70 parking spots and they
have I didn't go inside this place, but
[1:12:13] they have in my mind probably close to
200 seats. Um
[1:12:18] there is no way that if they were to try
to come into the village and again these
[1:12:22] are model citizens, model businesses,
there is no way they could come into the
[1:12:27] village and meet these criteria. Um so I
just don't think it's a reasonable
[1:12:32] number. um on a grander scale um and I
actually think this is a very
[1:12:36] well-ritten policy and I think it's
something we may have to go to but I
[1:12:40] would love to see I mean I think there's
these spectrums that we have to look at
[1:12:44] when we're looking at all of our
policies friendly unfriendly using
[1:12:48] resources that we have now versus going
to get new resources uh unintended
[1:12:52] consequences versus limited unintended
consequences and I think we have to have
[1:12:56] the desire to do the stuff on the left
left side of the spectrum whenever
[1:13:00] possible uh and probably an obligation
to do that. And we have empty lots in
[1:13:04] the village that we're doing site
development plans on that I would like
[1:13:08] to see those site development plans
happen prior to us enacting anything uh
[1:13:13] new on parking with parking on those and
with signs that say village parking so
[1:13:19] we can see if that relieves the parking
pressure because even if it relieves it
[1:13:23] 75% then maybe we need a different
version of this. But if we have empty
[1:13:27] lots sitting next to businesses and I
feel like we owe the citizens, we owe
[1:13:31] the businesses um a solution and it's
sitting right there with really limited
[1:13:36] stuff and we're working on these site
developments already that um we're not
[1:13:40] doing our job if we're not putting
parking on some of those and giving
[1:13:43] people a friendly an option without
unintended consequences um to solve this
[1:13:49] problem before we put up signs all over
the village. So, I would move that if we
[1:13:52] do move this thing forward, I'm going to
want to amend it to where we don't do so
[1:13:57] until we have those site development
plans with parking in place and we see
[1:14:00] if that solves the problem.
I'd like to bring up an issue too of um
[1:14:08] uh
couple things that weren't addressed in
[1:14:12] in this version uh had that have been
brought up before is where do you have
[1:14:17] the signs? What do the signs mean? Um,
and also if council bur wants to hold a
[1:14:24] barbecue party at his home, uh, where
can those people park? Uh, this
[1:14:29] ordinance doesn't allow that. Um,
I'll just throw something out just just
[1:14:35] for, you know, discussion. um that maybe
um talking about the neighbor commercial
[1:14:42] zone uh you have a sign no park
residents parking only coming into the
[1:14:49] street from Corales and 300 ft back you
have another sign that addresses the
[1:14:55] traffic coming into so you have incoming
traffic on that residential road you
[1:15:01] have no parking signs between those
signs coming in from Carales Road and
[1:15:05] coming in from interior drains. Say
there'll be a new no parking uh sign 350
[1:15:11] ft deep uh along that road. Uh another
another issue is is um you know uh
[1:15:20] having
uh council burst barbecue party or
[1:15:24] anybody else's um you know I wonder
whether there should be an allowance for
[1:15:30] guests of of a resident and um I think
it's really simple and actually this
[1:15:37] afternoon I I mocked up a
a little sign here
[1:15:42] and something like This can be put on
the dashboard of the car and basically
[1:15:49] it says guest. You're a guest of a
resident who lives there. The resident's
[1:15:56] address is here right below guest. So if
anybody has a question who is the host
[1:16:01] of the guest, the address is right
there. There's a permit number.
[1:16:07] the car uh Ford 250 truck white license
plate number and the days and and it's
[1:16:13] just you know half a dozen data points
and it allows for people to have guests
[1:16:19] at their place um parties graduations um
you know so it's not no parking no
[1:16:26] parking is simple but yet it seems to
have allowance for guests would be
[1:16:33] reasonable I know that Um I and Melanie
have looked into several possibilities
[1:16:38] of either doing this online. Um maybe
through the website that we currently
[1:16:44] have or using a separate vendor links to
the website and or you know a very
[1:16:50] simple thing is uh a resident can just
write this out. I mean it's just the
[1:16:55] number of data is very small. It's a
guest. It's got my address there. If
[1:17:00] anybody has a question there's my
address. I'm home. The the license plate
[1:17:06] number, the descriptor of the car, and
the date. I mean, that it's just I I
[1:17:12] think it it's an easy way to accommodate
having guests. So, I think just to throw
[1:17:16] that in the mix of as we discussed a no
parking ordinance, uh there a lot of
[1:17:21] different components of this where there
you know go to seating um number of
[1:17:26] parking places per seats, tables, that
sort of stuff. um uh no parking on
[1:17:32] residential streets. Uh I think one or
two things that have been brought up is
[1:17:38] you know where the science place and
what about gas and and I think I just
[1:17:42] like to throw this out to add to the
discussion of you know how we how we
[1:17:48] design uh a no parking in uh residential
areas uh ordinance. Yes, councelor
[1:17:54] Murray. Well, so to add to that, my son
lives up around the wheel Wilshire in
[1:17:58] Jefferson and during Bloomfest, they
close off Jefferson, but they have a
[1:18:03] placard that gets issued by the Bloom
Festa. Basically just says gives them
[1:18:07] permission as long as you got that
placard in your windshield, you're
[1:18:11] allowed into the area. It it doesn't
require any
[1:18:15] addresses, doesn't require any uh
information about the car, but as long
[1:18:19] as you got that placard, you're allowed
into that area. That's that's all we
[1:18:23] have to do. We could even include just
say dates, you know, three days or
[1:18:28] whatever it is, date one, you know, it
could be June 1st through June 3rd. I
[1:18:32] think that would probably cover it, but
that'd be myology.
[1:18:35] » Um, if if I may, mayor and council, um,
I I have been looking into different
[1:18:39] solutions for this. Um, we we did ask
our attorneys to weigh in on, you know,
[1:18:44] the the legality of residential parking
only. and their recommendation is that,
[1:18:50] you know, from a a legal perspective, we
should have some sort of permitting
[1:18:55] process. And so I've I've have had two
meetings so far. Um, one with a company
[1:19:01] called um Shau, and they they do um
sort of a uh build from scratch parking
[1:19:10] solution. And so they they would be able
to create a a website, a app, whatever
[1:19:16] we want that would be able to do these
parking permits where people could to do
[1:19:20] could register for them online. However,
it would take up to 6 months and $60,000
[1:19:27] to do that. Yesterday, I had a meeting
with a company called Honk, um which you
[1:19:32] know, it's just it's kind of fun to say.
um their recommendation when I explained
[1:19:36] what the situation was is the guy's
first question was do you have public
[1:19:41] parking available somewhere in the
village. So that was his first
[1:19:44] recommendation. Um second recommendation
is they can do something for us but um
[1:19:50] the way their app works is you have to
have paid parking and that's how the the
[1:19:54] app gets paid for. So, we would we would
then have to we we could do a solution
[1:19:58] where if a resident could prove that
they live in the village, they would
[1:20:02] have to pro provide their car
registration, which I don't know that
[1:20:05] anybody would want to do, but they would
have to prove somehow that they're a
[1:20:09] resident of the village and then they
could have free parking. Um but then I
[1:20:13] have another um another meeting
scheduled for tomorrow. So, that's just
[1:20:17] sort of what I'm learning so far. So,
there are options to be able to do this
[1:20:22] this sort of thing. Um, but it just
depends on how much we want to pay for
[1:20:26] it.
>> That's so nice.
[1:20:27] » Thank you, mayor. I think
it's it's too much rigor. If you live up
[1:20:34] in the sand hills, just go to your
neighbor and say, "I'm having a party
[1:20:37] tonight. There's going to be more cars
on the street." If it's only for like
[1:20:42] one day for four hours, I don't think
most people would argue with that. I I
[1:20:48] think they having to go and get signs
and and permits, it's going to be a
[1:20:52] mess. and people aren't going to like it
because it's extra work.
[1:20:57] » Um, you know, down in the commercial
district's a little different, but you
[1:21:01] know, up where I live, right?
>> You know, things like that, you just go
[1:21:05] to your neighbor and say, "Yeah, you can
park there for a couple hours. It's it's
[1:21:09] no big deal."
>> Right. This was what I said was just
[1:21:12] pertains to the neighborhood commercial
area, not the Sand Hills.
[1:21:16] » Okay. So So this you're only talking
about the the
[1:21:20] » neighborhood commercial zone. Oh,
>> this Lori would like to
[1:21:29] » other people. Okay,
>> counselors, mayor, administrator, if if
[1:21:34] I might. Um,
we're we're not going to cover the
[1:21:40] village with signs. Let me just read and
kind of tell you what the intent was
[1:21:45] when planning and zoning uh and I were
talking about this, the commission
[1:21:49] rather. Um,
it's section 1839 off- streetet parking
[1:21:54] requirements. That that section already
exists and people who have commercial
[1:21:59] site development plan applications are
referred to that section. And so what it
[1:22:04] would now say commercial parking on
residential streets upon notice by code
[1:22:10] enforcement or when warranted by ongoing
public safety concerns. So, we're
[1:22:15] talking about ongoing chronic issues
really having to do with commercial
[1:22:20] parking um and residential streets. In
those instances, the village
[1:22:25] administrator may direct that any part
of a residential street be posted with
[1:22:29] signs reading no parking.
This will be used judiciously and in a
[1:22:35] limited fast fashion. Um, Carllis PD
will have their full discretion as to
[1:22:41] how to handle a situation. Um,
I I just want to assure you that it's
[1:22:46] it's really a limited scope. We're we're
not talking about the neighborhood
[1:22:51] barbecue or oneoffs. We're talking about
chronic ongoing issues. If there was a
[1:22:56] neighborhood that had some sort of
chronic ongoing issue with a say a home
[1:23:01] occupation, it might be suitable in that
case. But again, it would have to be
[1:23:05] upon notice by the code enforcement
officer or EMS that there's there's this
[1:23:10] issue and it won't it won't quit and we
need to look at it there and then the
[1:23:14] administrator would have to agree. So, I
just want to assure you it's not going
[1:23:18] to be blanketing the village with signs.
Actually there uh there are five uh
[1:23:24] persons from the public who would like
to speak. So why don't we just interject
[1:23:28] that now and then we can discuss more
afterwards. So um Mandy
[1:23:33] » Sandy Rasmusen
[1:23:40] » Sandy Rasmusen 65 Target Road I'm going
to put this in my mouth because it's the
[1:23:45] only way it works. So, I am not going to
dispute the parking thing, although you
[1:23:50] all had good ideas, but I just would
like to bring forth the idea that if
[1:23:55] we're not going to allow parking on side
streets, that we need to provide
[1:23:59] alternatives. Um, I'd like to see both
the Anderson and the Gonzalez Field have
[1:24:06] parking spaces. Anderson can cover
Heritage House or whatever it's called,
[1:24:10] and the rec center. Um but down where
the meat of the traffic is, Gonzalez is
[1:24:17] a necessary thing. So just think about
this. But many of them you've already
[1:24:21] said, um but we have many residents that
do not live,
[1:24:26] they live in the sand hills up there.
They can't walk down to support our
[1:24:31] village or come and enjoy it. We have an
aging population that may not be able to
[1:24:36] walk very far. We have very little
parking for Lra Park. that is
[1:24:42] not private property. Um, and we seem to
forget that the rural feeling we are all
[1:24:48] trying to sustain doesn't have
sidewalks, which none of us, including
[1:24:52] me, do not want to see, but walking long
distance is not always practical. That
[1:24:57] our rural field can be sustained and
still include those that are not
[1:25:01] residents.
And since we don't have a plan yet
[1:25:05] except for bathrooms for the Gonzalez
Field, um if we even could put temporary
[1:25:10] parking there and see how that works
because that was kind of what was
[1:25:13] mentioned by a lot of you. But and this
doesn't necessarily have to do with
[1:25:17] parking, but it is part of the problem.
So the saddest thing of all is that we
[1:25:22] used to be a village that supported each
other. If we had an issue, we went and
[1:25:26] talked to our neighbor. We didn't come
and make an ordinance. And all this
[1:25:30] bickering I feel is dividing us and
that's changing the feel of our village
[1:25:35] way more than any outsiders. There are
many people in this room who are
[1:25:40] coralenos also and we really do care
about our village. So I hope that we can
[1:25:46] start to work together again and be the
village that we used to be. Thank you.
[1:25:51] » Thank you. Next
>> Bob Ike.
[1:25:56] Bob Ike,
[1:26:06] Bob, I of course live in Corales. Uh
[1:26:12] we can't have any loopholes.
Every ordinance that's being written has
[1:26:17] a loophole in it. How many signs is it?
One be one sign from here all the way to
[1:26:22] Lrada. No, you can't stop all that
parking.
[1:26:26] Is it between signs? It's got to be
spelled out. You cannot put in the
[1:26:30] ordinance that it will be done
judiciously.
[1:26:33] That doesn't work. Who in the heck's
judicious?
[1:26:37] You have to spell out each particular
that you want to control.
[1:26:43] As soon as you start saying we can put
signs here and there and in between,
[1:26:48] you've destroyed the village.
And that's not what we're here for.
[1:26:52] We're here to protect the village.
So be careful with your signs. Be
[1:26:57] careful with your ordinance. No
loopholes.
[1:27:01] It and indeference said it cannot be
done judiciously.
[1:27:06] If we change administrators, we change
P&Z,
[1:27:09] what's the next person going to do?
That's what you can't allow for. You
[1:27:14] can't allow for an unknown. So
everything has to be spelled out. It has
[1:27:20] to be it has to be clear as you can get
or else there's going to be people like
[1:27:25] me that'll come up here and find holes
in it and complain.
[1:27:29] So,
just be very careful. We don't need
[1:27:34] permits. Uh Fred sign is great. If you
have to have colored paper makes a damn
[1:27:41] good permit.
It damn sure doesn't cost 60,000 bucks
[1:27:44] or 6,000 bucks. Colored paper is pretty
cheap. But no, let's be very careful and
[1:27:53] I don't mind stepping on toes. I do it
all the time. But don't stomp on them.
[1:27:59] » Thank you.
>> Thank you. Next, Mandy.
[1:28:02] » Um, Charles Polling.
[1:28:08] » Hi, Charles Polling on Priestly Road.
Um, feels like deja vu talking to you
[1:28:13] all about parking again. We've done this
before. Um, and and this conversation
[1:28:17] sort of tore up. high talking points I
think because I see you know there's
[1:28:20] maybe a new direction here but so what I
would ask so we live on Priestley uh
[1:28:25] Priestly and Corval get overflow parking
from the herited house still okay you
[1:28:30] know it still happens there's public
parking right across the street at the
[1:28:34] farmers market people don't use it it's
too far and that's a tough crosswalk and
[1:28:38] the crosswalk issue brings up the safety
issue which is that when people are
[1:28:42] parking along Priestley uh if you're
trying to get out it's a choke point
[1:28:46] there with cars on both sides If you're
trying to be a pedestrian through that,
[1:28:49] good luck. And we also have cars, you
know, the turn into Priestley and Corval
[1:28:54] going northbound is a little bit of a
blind turn on Priestley. We have the
[1:28:59] mailboxes right out near the Corrow Road
intersection. You've got cars kind of
[1:29:03] parked on the road. It's just not a good
situation. So, I just ask for science. I
[1:29:07] ask you to solve the problem. And I
think exemp exemptions can be done. And
[1:29:11] I think it's it's it's just really not
accurate to say, "Oh, it's got to be all
[1:29:15] or nothing." Because, you know, you
exempt utility com utility workers when
[1:29:19] they're working on the roadside or a
tree company. They put cones up. There
[1:29:22] are ways to handle this. You let the
police know um you can handle the
[1:29:26] exemption. And of course, we are only
talking about the commercial district.
[1:29:29] And right now, I think we all know the
problem streets are Corval, Priestley,
[1:29:32] and East and West L. And they just get a
lot of overflow. And and you know, you
[1:29:36] can't control what the public does
unless you have signs that tell them
[1:29:39] what to do. Thanks.
Mayor, can I add one comment to
[1:29:43] something? So, I think the distance to
the parking lot is maybe a contributing
[1:29:46] factor, but the fact that the village
wants to charge Heritage House to tell
[1:29:51] their patrons to use a public parking
lot is another thing. They would put
[1:29:55] signs up. If there was a sign that said
free public parking directly across the
[1:29:59] street and everyone saw that, the
distance wouldn't be as big of a deal.
[1:30:03] But Heritage House is being told they
can't use that parking lot unless they
[1:30:07] rent it from us. And that's nonsense.
No, it's I I I I mean, you know, people
[1:30:14] can park the municipal lot, you know,
they can park at the bank and
[1:30:21] uh it's not that they can park there,
they can't rent it. Uh they can park
[1:30:26] there. I mean, I maybe I'm naive, but
>> and they put up a sign that says
[1:30:30] parking,
>> but I I think that if Heritage Charge
[1:30:33] House wants to have that lot exclusively
for itself, then it pays then it pays a
[1:30:40] fee, whatever it is, 10 bucks an hour or
something, which is not much, but if if
[1:30:45] someone wants payment of the heritage
house wants to use it, hey, you know, uh
[1:30:51] I that that that's my park here. taking
part of the bank.
[1:30:56] » Yes, council Mary.
>> So, this also brings up a good point
[1:30:59] that council Burkehead is addressing
too. It is unsafe to cross Grow Road
[1:31:05] from the rec center to the Heritage
House. We've been after DOT.
[1:31:11] » Oh, sorry.
>> Appreciate that.
[1:31:16] » Thank you, Daddy.
>> See, you thought I was upset. She was
[1:31:18] really upset with how wordy you were
last meeting.
[1:31:20] » It's a coincidence. Sorry.
>> But the point is we've been after DOT
[1:31:25] for a a lighted crosswalk at that point
>> and at night uh when they were having an
[1:31:31] event getting across crossroad safety. I
mean we've got flags there but they are
[1:31:36] not very good at night.
>> And I think it's a safety issue as well.
[1:31:40] » Y
>> so that that's paramount if we're going
[1:31:43] to allow them to use the rec center.
We're going to we're going to be liable
[1:31:46] somewhere on this hook if somebody gets
killed crossing that road. Why don't we
[1:31:51] let the two public people who would who
signed up to speak speak and then we can
[1:31:55] discuss it further. Uh who's next?
Mandy.
[1:31:58] » Troy Howard.
[1:32:06] » Hi Troy Howard. I live in Corales. Uh,
dear mayor and members of village
[1:32:10] council, I am reading regarding writing
this uh, regarding the proposed
[1:32:16] restrictions on the parking along
village rightaways. As a business owner,
[1:32:20] I respectfully ask that the village
carefully consider the impact these
[1:32:24] changes may have on local businesses and
restaurants uh, residents they serve.
[1:32:30] Many businesses have invested
significant time and resources based on
[1:32:34] the current parking conditions.
Restricting parking without adequate
[1:32:38] alternatives could reduce customers
access and create unnecessary challenges
[1:32:42] for businesses. It will contribute to
the character and economic vitality of
[1:32:46] Coralis. If the village believes parking
changes are necessary, I encourage the
[1:32:52] council to work collaboratively with
business owners to identify particular
[1:32:57] solutions before implementing
restrictions. Options such as public
[1:33:01] parking areas, alternative parking
locations, zoning modifications, or
[1:33:06] variances could help address concerns
while minimizing the impact on local
[1:33:11] businesses. I appreciate your time and
consideration and hope that the village
[1:33:15] will work with the businesses to find a
solution that benefit the entire
[1:33:19] community. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. Next, Mandy.
[1:33:23] » Mary Bolio.
[1:33:27] » Who was that?
>> Mary.
[1:33:34] » Hello again. Um, thank you, mayor, and
thank you council members again for
[1:33:40] bringing this important topic for
discussion. Um, in addition to the email
[1:33:46] and the photos that I sent you recently,
uh, I would like to add to the list of
[1:33:51] safety concerns already mentioned that
residents and business owners are not
[1:33:57] trained to deal with the general public.
And that is what we're seeing an
[1:34:02] increased influx of the public coming
into our village into our neighborhoods.
[1:34:09] Uh it is dangerous in this day and age
to approach anyone and ask them to maybe
[1:34:14] move their car because they're blocking
our driveway, blocking our trash pickup,
[1:34:19] blocking our access to our trailer when
we're taking our green waste. Those
[1:34:24] kinds of things are now dangerous
because we don't know always. they're
[1:34:29] not maybe our neighbors. Uh so there's a
there's a real need for prof we need
[1:34:35] professional help [laughter] in more
ways than one. But uh we do need our law
[1:34:41] enforcement to help us on these times
when we feel very vulnerable and
[1:34:47] exposed. We should not be asked to do
this on our own. We don't have the
[1:34:52] skills. Um, no parking signs are the key
to the law enforcement. They are
[1:35:00] universally understood. So, people
coming from other communities, they get
[1:35:05] it and we all understand it. And if
we're talking about guests parking in
[1:35:10] front of my house, well, if even if I
wanted to have a few friends over, if
[1:35:15] the business overflow parking is is all
in front of my house, there's no room
[1:35:20] for my guests to park either. So, what
we do is we always stack people in our
[1:35:25] driveway and sometimes we move our cars
down the road. We'll ask a neighbor,
[1:35:30] "Can we use one of your parking spots or
two for our cars so we can fit more on
[1:35:35] our property?" There are ways of dealing
with this as residents. Is it a
[1:35:40] sacrifice? Sure. Is it an adjustment?
Sure. Do we accept it because we support
[1:35:46] local business? You bet. It's worth it
and it's a unique situation, but it's
[1:35:52] the most important thing is that the
children on my street are safe. They can
[1:35:57] get to the mailbox. They can walk across
to the pool, to the soccer fields. And
[1:36:02] that is the most important issue here.
Consequences are is of not doing
[1:36:09] anything is that something tragic will
happen eventually. Let's not wait for
[1:36:14] that. Our community does not need that
black eye. We do need to make an
[1:36:19] adjustment. It's it's responsible growth
and we can do it. And there are
[1:36:25] sacrifices that need to be made for
public safety. And our our law
[1:36:31] enforcement needs the clear distinct
signage to enforce the law. And this is
[1:36:36] what they have told us. Please put the
signs up for all of our safety. Thank
[1:36:41] you.
>> Thank you.
[1:36:45] uh in the discussion by council
councelor Roman.
[1:36:48] » Uh yeah, I um strongly support uh
councelor Burquette and and councelor
[1:36:55] Murray. Uh we can get public parking
first. I think we have uh some resources
[1:37:00] that we can use. Uh I don't know where
the site development plans are. Uh we
[1:37:04] hear promises, but apparently they're in
the works. Uh but also I think it's
[1:37:09] really important as the councelor Murray
pointed out that if we're going to
[1:37:12] encourage people to use public parking
on the west side of Corell's Road to get
[1:37:18] to the businesses, there needs to be
some kind of lighting. Uh I mean it's
[1:37:22] now uh almost 8:30. All right. 8:10 it's
light. Six months from now it's going to
[1:37:29] be dark and through all the winter it's
going to be dark and people are going to
[1:37:32] be going to restaurants and bars using
the public parking places but along
[1:37:37] Coralis where there needs to be some
lighting. Now if it has to be I don't
[1:37:41] know what the depth is beyond uh Corales
road that the village can access
[1:37:47] lighting and not interfere with this
next do but there's got to be some way
[1:37:52] that we can we can handle that people
are people are safe. that's separate and
[1:37:56] apart from the really critical issue of
crossing Carellis Road. But it's I think
[1:38:00] that's important as well
that that these parking lots are going
[1:38:04] to be not adjacent to but somewhat near
the businesses that we're discussing uh
[1:38:10] and and we should use them and before I
think before as a gentleman point out
[1:38:14] before we uh delve into parking signs
let's see as councelor Bquette indicated
[1:38:20] let's see if these parking lots work and
it may be 60% 75%
[1:38:25] um and and we can deal with the rest
after that.
[1:38:28] » Marie,
>> and also one other question if I could.
[1:38:31] The um the packet indicated that the
sign ordinance next meeting is going to
[1:38:36] be on July 23rd. Is that July 23rd or
June 23rd?
[1:38:39] » June 23rd. Well, so we have we have a
meeting on June 23rd and then we have a
[1:38:43] meeting in in July, I believe also on
the 23rd. It's that Thursday night
[1:38:46] meeting that that we had scheduled. So
the but the um the uniform traffic
[1:38:51] ordinance, is that the one you're
talking about? Yeah, that one will be
[1:38:53] June 2. 23.
>> And also, um, if I may answer your
[1:38:57] question, if it's okay, mayor. Sure.
>> Um, the Anderson site development plan,
[1:39:02] uh, we do have to wait until after the
new fiscal year, um, to be able to issue
[1:39:06] the PO, um, so we don't get ourselves in
trouble with our auditor for, you know,
[1:39:11] um, so that site development plan will
go into effect as as soon as we can
[1:39:15] issue a PO at the after July 1st. That
one is a go. PO4
[1:39:20] » um the the work for the Anderson lot
>> to to do the site development plan
[1:39:26] » to to make it a parking lot. Yeah. We we
had
[1:39:28] » the site development.
>> Yes. To make the site development plan
[1:39:30] for the parking lot that that council
saw and and uh voted to move forward
[1:39:34] with for the Gonzalez property. That one
is already underway. However, it no
[1:39:38] parking is being considered. The only
thing that we were directed to create a
[1:39:42] a plan for was just those bathrooms. So
that plan will not show any parking at
[1:39:47] all. you walk to the bathrooms
>> unless we choose to add that to the plan
[1:39:51] before it comes out.
>> Yep.
[1:39:53] » Okay,
>> that's we should do that.
[1:39:55] » Yeah. What's the pathway to do that?
Just amend this amend this motion that
[1:39:59] we do that before we do publish and
post.
[1:40:01] » I think I think we should um we should
probably have it as a as an agenda item
[1:40:05] on the next meeting so that it's
properly noticed to the public and that
[1:40:09] that way if if somebody wants to come
and show support for having parking on
[1:40:13] the Gonzalez property, they have the
opportunity to do that.
[1:40:16] » Okay. Thank you,
>> Council Murray.
[1:40:18] » Well, along those lines, and I'm going
to support the public parking, but I'm
[1:40:23] also going to support that we reserve a
portion of both of these lots as open
[1:40:28] space because at some point, we're going
to want to improve these properties and
[1:40:34] make them something beyond other than a
parking lot
[1:40:38] » because it's, you know, I love open
space. I love but a parking lot it's
[1:40:43] kind of like what's that song you know
cut down a tree and put and pave a
[1:40:47] parking lot or put up a parking lot
that's not go that's not Corales and I
[1:40:50] want to see something that reflects
Corales's values I don't want a wire
[1:40:55] fence I want something that looks
attractive and it's going to be enhance
[1:40:59] the village so uh if we're going to have
this as a as a item I would support that
[1:41:05] » yeah I I I mean
I [clears throat] think parking on the
[1:41:09] gazal side is fine
But you know the Gonzalez law can be
[1:41:13] used a lot more than for parking.
>> Uh you know I mean I was a part of a
[1:41:18] group that planned proposed a heritage
park there um and extension of law park
[1:41:25] and parking was part of it too but not
parking right in front on Corales road
[1:41:29] but to have some vegetation buffer to
make it to make it more corales instead
[1:41:35] of oh it's a parking lot. And so all
that has to be uh talked about and and
[1:41:41] I've there are a half a dozen or so
architects who are uh working to try to
[1:41:46] help um us is is is going forth and
getting uh architect on call architect
[1:41:55] uh that'll help with some of this
planning. So whether it's probably
[1:41:59] better that way than
the mayor or the administrator or even
[1:42:04] council sort of drawing up a plan and
saying hey you know this is what we
[1:42:07] ought to do but maybe have some have
some expertise come in as people have
[1:42:13] talked about doing something
professional
[1:42:16] uh before we just say oh yeah we'll make
it a parking lot but I mean I think a
[1:42:20] parking lot should be part of it but is
not the perhaps a primary part of that
[1:42:26] that
that [clears throat] real estate.
[1:42:31] Councelor Knight,
>> um, is Anderson also gonna be for the
[1:42:35] growers market? So, it's not just going
to be a parking lot, but it'll be also
[1:42:39] for the growers market.
>> The growers market can use that.
[1:42:42] Correct.
>> Like they use the current growers market
[1:42:47] lot, which is I mean, it's basically a
parking lot.
[1:42:50] » So, they can use the Anderson.
>> Sure. Everybody knew that that's where
[1:42:54] the growers market's probably going to
go to. Yeah, I mean it's got almost two
[1:42:58] acres I think the Anderson law. So
that's a a lot of space for Gorers
[1:43:03] Market on Sunday and Wednesday and
um parking other times. Yes, Council
[1:43:10] Murray,
>> I'm going to call a question.
[1:43:13] » So as a reminder, the the item before
you is to approve this resolution 2615.
[1:43:22] » Okay. Councelor uh uh any second.
>> We we've already had a motion in a
[1:43:27] second to approve this.
>> He called the question.
[1:43:29] » Yeah. So he called the question.
>> Okay. I guess it's a roll call vote
[1:43:32] then.
>> Correct.
[1:43:34] » Councelor Mira.
>> So the way I'm reading this just for
[1:43:38] clarification is uh providing no parking
areas along the residential streets
[1:43:43] » and that we have a call for the question
on that particular issue and that
[1:43:46] particular issue only. and we're going
to be
[1:43:48] » so if what you're voting on is to
approve resolution 2615 which would
[1:43:52] publish and post the ordinance as
written for approval in July
[1:43:58] » or if we want to have a parking
discussion we would
[1:44:00] » so if you want to have a discussion
>> vote no
[1:44:02] » you would vote yes no
>> vote no
[1:44:07] » councelor Knight
>> no
[1:44:08] » councelor Bquette
>> no
[1:44:09] » councelor Murray
>> no
[1:44:11] » the motion does not pass
um moving along
[1:44:16] Um
>> if if I may, mayor, does does anyone
[1:44:20] want to make a motion on what to do next
so that this because right now this has
[1:44:24] failed. It's gone.
>> We will not do any further work on it
[1:44:27] without council's direction.
>> I move that we have a discussion about
[1:44:30] parking inside development plans of
village owned properties um at the next
[1:44:34] available meeting that we can possibly
get that on the schedule for.
[1:44:37] » I second.
>> Any discussion?
[1:44:42] Uh, I'm going to for the discussion
phase, but I think we're there. Uh, we
[1:44:47] probably there about a year and a half
ago when I had a motion that we should
[1:44:51] get both of these properties. We should
see how they work together. And we
[1:44:54] already voted yes on that one. It's been
a year and a half ago. But that's okay.
[1:44:57] Time heals all. But this is what we're
doing and that's fine. So, it's fine
[1:45:01] with me,
>> right? I mean, and the parking should
[1:45:04] include maybe the municipal parking lot.
Uh, you know, because we have parking
[1:45:09] available there. Um
uh maybe it should include the Jones
[1:45:14] property. I don't know. But they're more
they're more lost than just the Anderson
[1:45:19] and and I brought it up is because I
think we had a motion that we already
[1:45:23] voted on motion I I made a long time ago
saying we should get these properties
[1:45:26] see how they work together with one
another and I don't think we're doing
[1:45:29] anything different on that motion. So
we're okay with that.
[1:45:32] » No, we're still working at that. Okay.
Um call the motion. Councelor Mirror,
[1:45:37] how do you vote?
>> Yes, sir. Councelor Wman.
[1:45:39] » Hi.
>> Councelor Knight. Hi. Councelor
[1:45:41] Berquette.
>> Hi.
[1:45:42] » Councelor Murray.
>> Yes.
[1:45:43] » Motion carries to have a discussion at
the next meeting on parking issues in
[1:45:47] the village. Great.
New business discussion and uh of
[1:45:54] process and possible action on the
vacancy of the district 4 council seat
[1:45:58] for unexpired term of office per statute
NMSA [clears throat]
[1:46:04] 3-21-
uh one.
[1:46:09] Um, I do not have a nomination at this
time uh for the position. Um, and what
[1:46:17] I'd like to do is is it's been
recommended to open up the application
[1:46:21] process for another week and uh perhaps
have a nomination next meeting.
[1:46:28] » We may have skipped an item on the uh
the power line crossing Corral Road.
[1:46:34] » Nope. That's the next one.
>> That's the next one.
[1:46:36] » I'm sorry. That That's the next item.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[1:46:40] » Sorry.
>> You stole my house.
[1:46:43] » You're trying to trying to leave early.
>> Sharing.
[1:46:46] » Sherry.
>> Sharing.
[1:46:48] » Sponsor Murray.
>> Well, I was under the impression that we
[1:46:51] were going to postpone this item to the
next meeting. Is that correct?
[1:46:56] » Yes. Okay.
>> By by state statute, it has to appear on
[1:46:58] every agenda until we get a nomination.
>> This has to go up on agenda, though. and
[1:47:03] and mayor and members of council, just
for the the sake of keeping it a clean
[1:47:06] record, um my suggestion would be to
make a motion to table this until a date
[1:47:11] certain and list the next regular
agenda. Um as that date certain to have
[1:47:16] this reappear and we can again table if
necessary at that stage.
[1:47:19] » Table or post?
>> It's postponed. Table table is only in
[1:47:23] the same meeting. Postpone is moving it
to another meeting. I would move that we
[1:47:27] postpone this item to the next meeting,
June 23rd.
[1:47:30] » Any second on that? Second.
>> Any discussion?
[1:47:35] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:47:36] » I.
>> Any oppose? Motion carries.
[1:47:40] Number two, consideration, action, and
appro
[1:47:44] What? Sorry.
Consideration action approval of
[1:47:49] resolution 26-35 approval of an overhead
power line at 5311 Corales Road pursuant
[1:47:57] to village code land use regulations
section 1830 Q4.
[1:48:03] Um may I have a motion to open this up
for discussion?
[1:48:07] » Move to approve.
>> Second. Second.
[1:48:11] » Any discussion now? Uh councelor Murray.
>> Yeah, thank you. So, my only question
[1:48:16] is, and I was looking, I don't know if I
was looking at an old fixture uh along
[1:48:19] Carl's Road, but seems to me there is a
tree that is next to a utility pole
[1:48:25] right that at that corner of the
property. And if we're going to allow a
[1:48:30] power line go across, I want that tree
removed because uh it's going to
[1:48:35] interfere with power with later down the
road.
[1:48:38] » Um my name is Esther Frederickson. I'm
um my partner Kenny Dilap and I were the
[1:48:42] builders. Um, so I put the I can answer
questions about the tree.
[1:48:47] » No, I'd like to see the tree removed
just basically.
[1:48:49] » Yeah. So, um I mean PNM um asked that we
trim the tree. Um so we were going to
[1:48:56] trim the tree in order to
>> Is it an elm tree?
[1:48:59] » It is an elm tree.
>> Cut it down. [laughter]
[1:49:03] » I'm going to go with Evan Loack. She was
a proponent of removing every elm tree
[1:49:08] within the village mainly because they
suck water. But I would just I would
[1:49:12] just ask you to remove it.
>> Okay. I mean, I can talk to the land
[1:49:15] owner about that. Yeah.
>> I I do believe our fire chief would
[1:49:20] support that that motion.
>> Any other questions?
[1:49:23] » He'd be better off
>> that tree is going to be his property in
[1:49:28] another year. So,
>> any other question for any?
[1:49:33] » Yeah.
>> Yes. Hi, thanks for coming. Uh what is
[1:49:35] the timeline for construction?
>> Um so, we haven't submitted our permit
[1:49:39] yet. Obviously the step one was um
obtaining our driveway permit from NMDOT
[1:49:44] which we did.
>> Um
[1:49:46] » so they they allowed
>> I know that was a question before
[1:49:50] » with with DOT about not alignment or
something of the driveway.
[1:49:55] » Um so NM DOT allowed us to put the
driveway on the um north edge of the
[1:50:01] property and it kind of curves um south
a little bit. So they were fine with the
[1:50:08] visibility for that. So yeah, we do have
a agenda DOT permit for that. Um, so
[1:50:13] step two was getting power to the lot.
Um, there are power lines on the west
[1:50:18] side of her property. um along the MRGCD
MRGCD ditch. Um PNM didn't allow us to
[1:50:27] use those because um they want they want
the power to come from the front because
[1:50:33] they have a lot of confusion with
addresses when the power comes from
[1:50:36] different parts, you know, different
sides of the property. Um so the
[1:50:40] transformer is on the opposite side of
Coralis Road from her property. So
[1:50:45] there's kind of no other way to access
power to her property. um also say there
[1:50:51] used to be prior to her engaging with
us, there was an old um adobe house on
[1:50:56] the property that was um had been
demolished. So I assume that that house
[1:51:01] had power at one point as well. Um but
yeah, but you're right, there is a tree
[1:51:06] at that corner. Um and there's also
there's currently a Quest um
[1:51:10] communication followed that
>> Murray. Uh so is the irrigation ditch is
[1:51:15] that being used or is that out of
service?
[1:51:17] » Um I believe it is being used.
>> Okay. Is the idea then to run power
[1:51:22] through another pole to the house or are
you going to run it underground?
[1:51:25] » It's going to be underground. So, we are
minimizing the overhead power line to
[1:51:30] the extent like really possible. We're
trying to just get it over Corales Road
[1:51:34] and then at that point we're going 230
ft underground to the proposed.
[1:51:38] » Are you going to be farming front part
of that or do they
[1:51:41] » uh the it's it's zoned agriculture. I
assume the homeowner is going to be I
[1:51:45] mean she has access to the irrigation
ditch and I think she intends to be
[1:51:49] farming it but
>> well how I'm I'm curious about how deep
[1:51:52] you plan on putting the rest of the
power underground because uh is there a
[1:51:57] possibility that if you're farming
you're going to dig up at or expose that
[1:52:02] power line?
>> No, I don't. No. And we're running um
[1:52:05] along the ascia there. So I don't I mean
that's not a place that you would be
[1:52:11] tilling. Is that a That's not lined, is
it?
[1:52:13] » It's not lined.
>> Okay. So, it could be subject to water.
[1:52:18] » I mean, it's going to um I mean, I can
get back to you on that on on the depth
[1:52:22] for for our um electrical line, but we
are obviously, you know, going to be put
[1:52:30] we don't want to see that electrical
line get messed up. Well, I understand
[1:52:34] that's that's just the concern that if
you're using the irrigation ditch, the
[1:52:39] saturation of the water exposing into
the cable or the cable detering because
[1:52:43] of the exposure to the water. So, I'm
just
[1:52:45] » No, I don't I don't see that being an
issue.
[1:52:47] » Okay.
>> And it should be a direct I mean, it's a
[1:52:50] direct buried cable. So,
>> Burket.
[1:52:53] » Uh, thank you, mayor. Um, so this is I
guess not specific to your application,
[1:52:57] but just a thought. I mean, it seems
like the only reason we're having to do
[1:53:01] any section of overhead line is because
P&M is saying that it's difficult for
[1:53:05] them to figure out someone's address if
the line runs east to west instead of
[1:53:09] west to east. Um, it seems like you guys
are doing everything possible to Yeah.
[1:53:13] » bury as much as you can,
>> right? And and that's not quite correct
[1:53:17] because the the the line on the west
side um would have to cross the MRGCD
[1:53:22] ditch.
>> Okay. So,
[1:53:23] » so both would have to be above ground at
some point.
[1:53:25] » Yes.
>> Okay. But I I I just think for something
[1:53:28] just food for thought for our franchise
agreement with P&M, we need to discuss
[1:53:31] with them that their ease of identifying
addresses is not justification for them
[1:53:36] to ask people to put stuff over Carales
Road. Um because we make everyone jump
[1:53:41] through all these hoops to do a small
section of overhead line. And a big
[1:53:46] reason we're doing it is just for
convenience of something that's very
[1:53:49] simple to do that P&M says they don't
want to do. You would have to say that
[1:53:53] when we were going to bring you the P&M
franchise as a as negotiated over the
[1:53:58] last year and a half, I think at the
next meeting. [laughter]
[1:54:04] » Good point, though. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I know we we've we've actually um
[1:54:08] the the fire chief and I have gone back
and forth with PNM on and our attorneys
[1:54:12] on, you know, things like the the trees
and um undergrounding and you know, I I
[1:54:18] think we've we've reached a point where
we've we've squeezed everything out of
[1:54:21] them that we can possibly get. But yeah,
we will have a new franchise agreement
[1:54:24] for you um at the next meeting. But it
it is very frustrating on our end too
[1:54:29] because you know we would like them to
meet certain conditions and yeah I mean
[1:54:34] it it does seem like it it should be a
no-brainer that they could figure out
[1:54:39] where where the line is coming from. But
>> and an issue I think is that PNM charges
[1:54:46] a fairly high amount to run the line
underground whereas to run it overland
[1:54:53] is a lot less expensive. And so, you
know, we're probably probably going to
[1:54:57] be seeing more overhead line requests
come in um uh because people feel they
[1:55:05] can't afford to go underground.
>> Well, and in this case too, you you
[1:55:09] would have to go under Corales Road,
which would then involve DOT for a
[1:55:13] permit to go under the road.
>> Easy to work with.
[1:55:15] » Yeah. Our DNM is going to involve NMDOT
to go over the road as well. So, and
[1:55:21] they and B&M is sort of waiting for the
outcome of of this variance in order to
[1:55:26] start that process.
>> Sir,
[1:55:29] » well, that brings up the question too
because
[1:55:33] if there's I mean, yes, X number of
dollars to go under the road, but what
[1:55:36] is the cost to P&M if they have to come
out and service that because of a storm,
[1:55:40] the line goes down, they have to bring
contractors in, and then what's the
[1:55:45] repair? You know, eventually it adds up
over the years when it might have been
[1:55:49] simpler just to put it under the ground.
Even though the cost may be I don't know
[1:55:53] what it is. I mean, is it two times
>> $7,000 to go to $7,000 to go
[1:56:00] » the the $10,000 that I mean it's sort of
a um they haven't given us a firm number
[1:56:06] yet.
>> It seems like to me to bring out a
[1:56:09] contractor if there's a storm and a pole
goes down or the lines come down over
[1:56:13] Cross Road. What's the cost? It's
probably negligible. I mean, it's it's
[1:56:19] it's probably somewhere there's going to
be a your return on investment is going
[1:56:23] to be exceeding what it could have been
if it had been under ground.
[1:56:26] » PNM will do it. The thing is that the
P&M charges the resident for it. And the
[1:56:32] resident says, "Hey, you know, it's a
lot less expensive going."
[1:56:36] » Well, I understand, but it's
>> overground than under.
[1:56:40] » I'll I'll give you an example on my
property. Our line runs across GR Road
[1:56:46] down several houses to a property. Then
it goes underground to my place.
[1:56:52] I've watched the transformer on Crossro
Road burn because it's on the pole and
[1:56:59] something happened and you know it just
disintegrate. But it takes out half a
[1:57:03] dozen of us that are on that on that
line. So anyway, that's just that's just
[1:57:08] an example.
>> So the so the transformer itself is on
[1:57:11] the east side of Corales Road. So we're
asking to put a customer owned pole. So
[1:57:14] there would be a service drop.
>> Um so the transformer is already there.
[1:57:17] We're not putting in a new
>> Well, it just it just
[1:57:23] Okay. Um
getting personal. I think 20 years ago
[1:57:29] B&M charged us $15,000
to run line underground for us.
[1:57:35] And that was 20 years ago.
and we paid it just we felt that you
[1:57:40] know we'd rather have a light
underground for many reasons but we had
[1:57:44] to
>> either have you
[1:57:46] » pardon me
>> you haven't had a problem with the
[1:57:48] underground service
>> no
[1:57:52] » any other questions for
>> fire chief has a question
[1:57:56] » fire chief
[1:58:06] » council um I believe you've heard my
testimony before. We're not I'm not in
[1:58:10] support of any more above ground
utilities. Uh we get calls. Uh just this
[1:58:16] last week, we've had multiple trees
down, some of them involving either low
[1:58:20] voltage lines, delay in response.
Uh two weeks ago, we had a cottonwood
[1:58:26] tree come off um on a private property,
fall down, pulled the overhead power
[1:58:31] line to the service head off the house,
shorted out. um kind of smoldering in
[1:58:37] the box and luckily the the house didn't
burn down. Um so
[1:58:44] hearing that they're doing everything
they possibly can to make it safer in a
[1:58:48] customer-owned pole. Counselor, thank
you for suggesting that the tree be
[1:58:51] removed. Ultimately, this is your
decision. This is their right to appeal.
[1:58:55] Uh but I think we could do better by
making sure that even if it is a
[1:58:58] customer-owned pole and the utility is
going to be overhead that the owner of
[1:59:04] the property or if the property sells
that it's you know that they have to
[1:59:09] maintain a clear area around that
service and not plant trees underneath
[1:59:13] the power lines because they're just
continuous you know it's a continual
[1:59:17] problem in the village. So thank you.
And the problem there is, you know, how
[1:59:22] do you maintain that? You know, that's
not a village easement and they're not
[1:59:25] going to give us that land. And if the
owner decides to plant a cottonwood tree
[1:59:32] under it, uh what recourse do we have?
Correct, mayor. Uh you're absolutely
[1:59:37] right. Right. I mean, I I don't know how
we can enforce it other than uh doing
[1:59:42] our due diligence, PSAs, advising
homeowners to if they have trees on
[1:59:47] their private property that enforce, you
know, reminding them it's their
[1:59:50] responsibility. My understanding, I
could be wrong, but when PNM
[1:59:56] takes that their triplex or whatever
service line from their pole to a
[2:00:01] customerowned pole or to the house of
residence, that is the responsibility of
[2:00:07] that homeowner. And a lot of homeowners
don't understand that. And um I I I just
[2:00:13] think, you know, we could do a better
part in trying to educate them that if
[2:00:17] they do have trees that they're trimmed
regularly. and uh maintained.
[2:00:24] » Thank you,
councelor Murray.
[2:00:27] » Uh so this is a question for Lori. Then
when the Lori when they bring you the
[2:00:32] plans for your house, is there a way we
can stipulate that any uh power being
[2:00:38] brought into that property that it
remained free of vegetation?
[2:00:43] » We can give them a document to that
effect. We already give them the dark
[2:00:46] skies ordinance and uh we ask for
certified asbuilts for their grading and
[2:00:51] drainage. But but um like some folks
have suggested it's hard people still do
[2:00:58] what they're going to do and then trees
grow. We we can certainly do that. We we
[2:01:03] can tell them to
>> and don't they have to have a when
[2:01:06] another if the property train changes
hands, don't they have to have a survey
[2:01:11] done and they have to have certain
stipulations on it? uh that's up to the
[2:01:15] title company. Sometimes they just buy a
property and okay
[2:01:18] » uh you know we're we're talking most of
these are some type of new construction
[2:01:23] and then once it's there it's there once
the overhead is there it's there um and
[2:01:29] properties change hands people plant
trees and it becomes more difficult to
[2:01:34] to keep an eye on that. Is that an
ordinance that we need or I'm just uh
[2:01:39] kind of throwing this out to see where
it sticks?
[2:01:41] » And mayor and members of council, it
reminds me of something that you had
[2:01:43] said prior to this meeting, which is
that the enforcement portion of the code
[2:01:47] is kind of an area that I think really
bears looking at. Um and I think sort of
[2:01:51] in tandem I'm looking at um 1830 that
subsection Q that talks about these
[2:01:56] communication and electrical
distribution lines. Um, and it really
[2:01:59] doesn't address in a meaningful way
anything to do with vegetation and
[2:02:04] obstruction of the lines. Um, you know,
there are a lot of things that are sort
[2:02:08] of notably absent from this in terms of
if we wanted to be able to, you know,
[2:02:13] look out over somebody's property and
see that there's a tree back there. Um,
[2:02:17] you know, there's really no mechanism at
this stage other than saying, "Hey, we
[2:02:19] see that that tree is awfully close to
your power line. You might want to
[2:02:22] reconsider that." Um, and that's kind of
where we're limited. Um so it may be
[2:02:26] worth taking a look at that code in in
tandem with taking a look at enforcement
[2:02:29] provisions and seeing you know is this
something I mean obviously one of the
[2:02:33] reasons that this is here is that um the
biggest concern is public safety uh and
[2:02:38] if there is a meaningful way to get
underground access u because it would be
[2:02:42] a better benefit to public safety. I
mean I think we just heard Chief tell us
[2:02:45] that. Um,
so I I mean it may not be strictly
[2:02:49] necessary except for those lots where
they already have overhead lines sort of
[2:02:53] running through them, running near them,
adjacent to those lot lines, you know,
[2:02:55] where you might be considering
granting this sort of with conditions,
[2:03:00] right? There's no ability to give
conditions at this stage the way it's
[2:03:03] written.
[2:03:08] » Uh, councelor Wman.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, Chief,
[2:03:13] is that a possibility that you could
think about working on an ordinance that
[2:03:18] would help you in terms of vegetation
under power lines going forward?
[2:03:22] » Absolutely, Mayor Counselor. Uh,
>> there there must be model legislation
[2:03:26] out there somewhere.
>> Yeah. And I I've done some research and
[2:03:29] looking at some of the uh different
ordinances and regulations and you know
[2:03:33] some enforcements uh starting in
California because you know some of the
[2:03:36] wildfires have been caused and uh some
are under investigation for you know
[2:03:41] utility lines or some sort of power line
and so uh I'd be happy to take on that
[2:03:46] task. Uh, I'd like to work, you know,
with our code enforcement, planning and
[2:03:51] zoning, and also, you know, maybe we can
parallel
[2:03:55] um the P&M's, you know, vegetation
management so we can help each other.
[2:04:00] So, when they're coming through and
cleaning up their power lines or
[2:04:03] distribution lines, we're also doing our
enforcement at, you know, on the ground,
[2:04:09] educating the public and trying to come
up with some of the rules to help us
[2:04:13] make our community safer. you know, some
of the major fires in New Mexico have
[2:04:16] been power lines going through national
forest and that that the cleared area
[2:04:21] wasn't wide enough so that was when
there was a problem sparking whatever it
[2:04:25] was, it touched off these major
wildfires.
[2:04:28] » So using that as somewhat of a model and
some of the California experiences.
[2:04:34] » Yeah. and mayor counselor um planning
and zoning and I we we've had this
[2:04:38] discussion and and they're doing their
part when they have a new site plan or a
[2:04:41] plat coming before that you know
vegetation uh landscape requirements and
[2:04:46] stuff that's great if you have a certain
amount of trees or shrubs you have to
[2:04:51] put on your property just don't put them
in roads and don't put them underneath
[2:04:55] power and
>> make sure they're not elm trees
[2:04:58] » so thank you Murray
>> I would move that we amend the uh motion
[2:05:03] to uh require the removal of the on tree
at that corner of the property.
[2:05:10] » Any second to that?
[2:05:14] » I'll second that. Any more discussion on
that?
[2:05:17] » Well, one, I think the tree needs to be
removed mainly because it's going to
[2:05:22] interfere with the power lines sooner or
later. And two, it sucks water like
[2:05:26] crazy. I mean, it's an elm tree and so I
think we'd be better off if we just had
[2:05:30] it removed. That eliminates the issue of
the power lines being interfered later
[2:05:35] in life.
>> Any more discussion on that?
[2:05:39] » I mean, Council Briquette and Council
Knight,
[2:05:43] » my agreement is in sheer deference to
the chief's vastly superior knowledge to
[2:05:46] me of the fire danger of uh of these
trees and lines. And so, um, his
[2:05:51] concern, uh, becomes my concern.
>> Knight.
[2:05:55] » Yeah. I just wanted to ask, do you think
there's going to be a problem with the
[2:05:59] homeowner about removing this tree? I
mean, is it like give a lot of shade to
[2:06:03] the house or
>> No, it's not it's not a nice tree
[2:06:06] nowhere.
>> Yeah, it's it's not a nice tree. It's
[2:06:08] just the cost of having to remove it.
Um, you know, so that but if that's a
[2:06:13] condition of your approval, then we'll
just tell her and that if she wants
[2:06:17] power, that's what she's going to have
to do. [clears throat]
[2:06:21] » Any more discussion?
All in favor say I.
[2:06:26] » Any oppose? Motion carries.
>> Thank you.
[2:06:30] » Thanks.
>> That that was resolution.
[2:06:34] » Well, that that was that was just um a
vote to approve the amendment. Now you
[2:06:39] need to go back and vote on the original
motion with a Yes. With a roll call
[2:06:44] vote. Okay.
>> So, you're you're um you're voting on
[2:06:48] approval of the line with the
stipulation that they remove the tree,
[2:06:52] right? Council me, how do you vote?
>> Councelor Waldman. Hi. Councelor Knight.
[2:06:56] Hi. Councelor Bquette. Hi. Councelor
Murray.
[2:06:58] » Yes.
>> Motion carries. I'd like to take a
[2:07:01] moment to uh thank uh Representative
Casease for attending our meetings. Is
[2:07:07] there another uh candidate in in the
room right now? Anyway, we appreciate
[2:07:13] you coming and attending and being aware
of the thorny issues in Coral sometimes
[2:07:21] and
talk about [laughter]
[2:07:30] » Oh, thank you very much for coming being
concerned and aware. Um, next item, uh,
[2:07:36] consideration, action, approval of
resolution 26-35,
[2:07:41] approval of an overhead power line at
5311 Corales Road pursuant to village
[2:07:47] code land use regulation section. Next
item, that's we just approved that one.
[2:07:53] Number three, consideration action
approval of resolution 26 uh-36,
[2:07:59] approval of an overhead power line at
lot B, Targeta Lane, pursuant to village
[2:08:04] code land use regulation section 18-30
Q4. May I have a motion to open this up?
[2:08:10] » Motion to approve.
>> Second.
[2:08:13] » Any discussion?
>> Council would is somebody here from that
[2:08:19] land that property
>> mayor? I believe those are two
[2:08:23] contiguous lots. A and B are part of
what we just voted on previously. It's
[2:08:28] the same address. She she just left.
>> Oh, okay.
[2:08:32] » Lori, are are do you are you aware of
that being the case?
[2:08:37] » It's a separate property, separate
residence.
[2:08:40] » Yeah.
>> The the one that you just voted on is
[2:08:43] 5311 Carles Road. It's on the the west
side of Carales Road. This is farther
[2:08:48] north heading east off Targetta Lane.
So, and Lori, correct me if I'm wrong.
[2:08:53] This one is literally just P&M refusing
to let them connect to their pool.
[2:08:58] » Correct. That that is their new stance
that they won't let anyone connect to
[2:09:02] their fancy power lines that bring power
to people, but we can't touch the fancy
[2:09:07] power lines that bring the power to the
people. We have to make another power
[2:09:09] line that gets the power line from the
one we can't touch to the one we can
[2:09:14] touch. Correct. And bury it. Communities
like Rio Rancho that are very strict
[2:09:18] with overhead or I'm sorry with
underground there. There's a a P&M has
[2:09:22] come up with something. It's a riser and
I'm trying to figure out how tall it is.
[2:09:26] It's not certainly not as tall as a
telephone pole. It's some kind of a
[2:09:28] metal thing and so the power comes off
of the pole, connects to that little
[2:09:32] riser and then goes underground from
there. So that's what undergrounding
[2:09:36] communities are doing. And it's my
understanding that this
[2:09:38] » is that in our franchise agreement.
>> I will have to go double check. I have
[2:09:43] the diagram. Administrator,
>> it does say in keeping with the
[2:09:48] ordinance.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The the franchise agreement
[2:09:52] with P&M does say they have to abide by
all of our ordinances. So, whatever and
[2:09:57] we aren't specific about, you know, you
have to follow 18 because the things can
[2:10:01] change. So, it just says they will abide
by all the village ordinances. So,
[2:10:05] interesting.
>> Murray. Well, um I guess the question is
[2:10:09] bringing the power across uh from
Targetta to lot B. Uh did they have to
[2:10:14] get an easement from the uh owner of lot
A?
[2:10:20] » I don't know land owner here at all or
>> because they're
[2:10:27] okay.
>> Or they're
[2:10:30] representative
>> both and it kind of makes it a moot
[2:10:32] point that
>> you can't build a house. separate houses
[2:10:37] here.
>> Chief, would you like to say something?
[2:10:41] » What are they doing? Yeah.
>> Mayor, council, uh, thank you. I don't
[2:10:45] want to repeat what I said earlier. I
think I got my point across. Um, my my
[2:10:50] concern on this one was looking at the
diagram.
[2:10:54] Um,
[2:10:57] and I understand that the power is there
on Taretta. just lost my page, but it
[2:11:03] looks like they're trying to put the
pole right in the middle of lot B.
[2:11:08] And I maybe Lori can clarify, but my
suggestion or um would be that the pole
[2:11:15] stay
if P&M doesn't allow a an underground
[2:11:21] conduit to be attached to their pole
that a new owner pole be put where the
[2:11:26] existing poles are on along that line of
Taretta with underground service
[2:11:31] underneath Targetta Lane to lot B.
Does that make sense?
[2:11:37] Will that work if they don't own both
lots? I I I don't know. I mean, if they
[2:11:41] own both lots, that works, but can they
force another pull on someone else's lot
[2:11:45] » that that Yeah. So, I have some
questions just based on the diagram that
[2:11:48] I see. Or it might require
>> trenching down Taretta Lane if they have
[2:11:54] rights to that for access and utility
easement because they have a utility
[2:11:58] easement obviously. The power poles are
going on the north side of Targetta.
[2:12:03] This one may need to get postponed until
we can ask some questions.
[2:12:07] » Yeah.
I mean, Councelor Wilman,
[2:12:10] » Mayor, can I can I ask Lori? Um, I pass
that that property every day. Uh, it
[2:12:16] seems to me that are you suggesting that
these are two separate own perhaps not
[2:12:21] owners, but two separate lots. So,
there'll be two separate houses
[2:12:23] potentially
>> on Tetta. Correct. I mean, it's being
[2:12:27] farmed now. There's a lot A and there's
a lot B,
[2:12:30] » right? How how large are each of the
lots? Do you know?
[2:12:33] » Gosh, I did look it up. Let me see if I
can eyeball it. Um,
[2:12:36] » pretty equal.
>> Well, I'm gonna say they're about an
[2:12:40] acre each. Uh the I I looked up the
plat. There was an amended plat that
[2:12:45] wasn't that long ago, so I I can
reasonably assume they're about an acre
[2:12:49] each.
>> Legally platted lots that could be in
[2:12:53] the future. There's farming occurring
now, but they could contain houses. So,
[2:12:57] if I'm looking at this picture
that we have in the packet, there's
[2:13:02] target Lane to the south and then lot A,
>> lot B, right?
[2:13:09] » And then and then there's an open space
just below the the line.
[2:13:15] » Is that is so is the land
below that line where where the outline
[2:13:20] is for lots A and B, is that part of it
as well? because I don't think I don't
[2:13:25] think they're an acre each A and B.
>> I'm pretty sure they are. It's very hard
[2:13:31] to see, but there is they're rectangular
lots and to the south of lot A and lot
[2:13:37] B, it looks like there's another road,
but what that is is the indigenous farm
[2:13:41] hub, I believe, and a separate property.
>> So, where you where you see what looks
[2:13:47] like a road to the south of lot A and
lot B is simply just their farming
[2:13:51] access on another property. seems to me
that there, you know, questions about
[2:13:56] this and without the property owner
here, I mean, you know, are we going to
[2:14:00] make conditions that the property owner
has to abide by without the property
[2:14:05] owner having discussion and input? Uh, I
I just wonder whether that person or a
[2:14:12] representative like in the previous item
>> and this does say that the power is for
[2:14:16] farming activities, not a home. I don't
know if that makes a difference.
[2:14:20] » Is the is the uh owner
you proposed a power pole that the owner
[2:14:26] is going to install for lot B and that's
where the house is going to be.
[2:14:32] » It right now the pole is going to be
adjacent to a shed that they're using in
[2:14:37] their farming activities.
>> That's where in lot B in lot maybe this
[2:14:41] is not for a house is just for maybe a
pump
[2:14:44] » at this point in time. Yes, it it it
does say in the the letter from the
[2:14:48] property owner, the purpose of the propo
proposed new service is to provide power
[2:14:52] to farming activities that are occurring
on site.
[2:14:54] » Does it doesn't mean that they couldn't
build a house down the road, but yeah,
[2:14:57] » it's got plans to build a house there.
>> Yeah.
[2:15:00] » Councelor Murray.
>> So, mayor, I would uh I will withdraw my
[2:15:05] motion and ask that uh we postpone this
item to the next uh available council
[2:15:12] meeting.
>> I'll second that. Any discussion on
[2:15:15] that?
Uh, does this need
[2:15:19] just a goof?
>> Yeah, you can. Yeah,
[2:15:22] » it's not a res. All in favor, please say
I.
[2:15:24] » I.
>> I.
[2:15:25] » Any oppose?
>> Motion carries to postpone till the next
[2:15:29] meeting.
>> We Well, actually, we'll work with the
[2:15:31] property owner to make sure they can
attend the next meeting. And if not,
[2:15:34] we'll move it to the next meeting that
the property owner is available to
[2:15:37] attend so that we can make sure that we
don't run into this issue again. and
[2:15:41] mayor and members of council just for
the sake of the record. So I did look it
[2:15:43] up on the assessor's website. So this
property owner owns lot C and lot B. Um
[2:15:48] so lot A is not part of the equation as
far as I can tell. So his power line is
[2:15:52] sort of already
>> um would be crossing over a different
[2:15:55] property owner's property.
>> So they need they need an easement of
[2:15:58] some kind I would presume. We'll see.
>> But I guess that we can ask that when
[2:16:03] » it may pre-exist. It would be entirely
dependent on what that survey and plat
[2:16:06] said you know when it was created. Okay.
Okie do. Uh, last item in new business.
[2:16:14] Um, item four, consideration action
approval of resolution 26-37
[2:16:19] adopting the 2028 to 2032
infrastructure capital improvement plan
[2:16:27] ICIP. May I have a motion to open this?
>> Move to approve.
[2:16:31] » Second.
>> Um, we have a motion to second. Any
[2:16:35] discussion?
[2:16:42] That's unusual.
>> Take that roll call vote now.
[2:16:46] » Fast.
>> Are you here to check on your money?
[2:16:48] Good for you. [laughter]
[2:16:52] » And we we do have the option of um if we
want to adjust the um so we have to get
[2:16:57] this list into the state before July 1
and then they then they close the the
[2:17:02] portal. We can't make any changes to it.
However, before everything reopens for
[2:17:06] the capital outlay process, they will
reopen the portal for a short period of
[2:17:10] time if we want to restructure any of
our rankings as we get closer to that
[2:17:15] time of requesting capital outlay. So,
just just so you know, these these
[2:17:18] rankings do get locked in after July 1,
but we do have the option to change them
[2:17:23] before we go to our our great
legislators for for funding. And thanks
[2:17:28] to Melanie for re surveying us because
there was some confusion last time with
[2:17:33] how we ranked.
>> Thank you all to all the counselors for
[2:17:35] for re-ranking them.
>> Right. So on that uh Mr. Mayor, uh
[2:17:41] municipal parking facilities means just
what we were talking about earlier that
[2:17:44] we have to wait.
>> No, the municipal parking facilities is
[2:17:47] was um specifically for the admin
complex, not all the other. Yeah,
[2:17:52] because that that was that was already
>> but we still have to wait till till 1 on
[2:17:57] this one. Okay.
>> Yeah.
[2:17:59] » Gotcha.
>> Any other discussion?
[2:18:04] » Okay. Um let's take a vote this
resolution. So councelor Mariotti vote.
[2:18:09] » Yes.
>> Councelor Bquette.
[2:18:11] » Yes. Councelor
>> Knight. Councelor Wman. Hi. Councelor
[2:18:14] » Mera.
>> Yes sir. Um
[2:18:17] » next item announcements. Uh future
agenda items.
[2:18:20] » Thank you. Number [laughter]
[2:18:25] one, uniform traffic ordinance first
reading next meeting on the 23rd of
[2:18:29] June. Uh number two, possible fireworks
ban renewal next meeting. Uh number
[2:18:35] three, 40-year water plan update July
16th. And number four, draft noise
[2:18:41] ordinance discussion to be announced. Uh
any other changes or
[2:18:47] » just the parking conversation? Y
>> and parking conversation next meeting.
[2:18:52] » Okay. Um we've done all our agenda
items. So
[2:18:57] » could I where we are on the uh your
discussions with NM DOT?
[2:19:03] » It was supposed to be the end of
>> next month.
[2:19:06] » So the um our our next meeting is next
Thursday.
[2:19:10] » Okay.
>> At at 10 a.m. and then and then we go
[2:19:13] back to every other month. And that's
going to have to do with uh stop signs
[2:19:17] and
>> it'll it'll be ev everything. And I I
[2:19:20] was um going to see if we could add to
the agenda um just a brief discussion
[2:19:24] about the um driveway permits because it
it has been an issue getting those
[2:19:29] approved with NMDOT.
>> You know, I noticed the other day that
[2:19:32] the new complex going up at Perea Road
um has a long driveway off of Corell's
[2:19:39] Road. Is that up for discussion or is
that built in to the I mean what's going
[2:19:44] to happen with that?
>> So the anytime a property owner brings a
[2:19:48] a new plat they have to get a drive so
driveway permits do not go with the land
[2:19:52] they go with the owner. So every time a
a property changes hands along Crowis
[2:19:57] Road that new owner has to go and apply
for a new driveway permit
[2:20:00] » through NMD through NM DOT and they
don't they don't make that clear to
[2:20:05] people. I think I I would assume if I
bought a property and and I have access
[2:20:09] off of Carl's Road, I would just assume
that it's been allowed. I wouldn't know
[2:20:13] that I had to go and get a new driveway
permit to continue using that access
[2:20:17] point.
>> Councelor Murray.
[2:20:19] » Uh thank you. So for Pere Road, can we
put some commas in there so it's
[2:20:23] $700,000, not $7 million?
>> Yes.
[2:20:27] » Okay. Thanks. [laughter] And also,
uh for the DOT discussion, let's get the
[2:20:32] crosswalks back on discussion. Yeah. So,
the the crosswalks um those are on hold
[2:20:37] until after this the safety study. So,
the studies won't be um we won't have
[2:20:41] results until early fall. So, the only
thing we're going to get from DOT at
[2:20:45] this next meeting is the contractor is
working on on everything. We'll get
[2:20:49] results to you in you know late August,
early September.
[2:20:53] » How about the pathway from the Monasuri
school?
[2:20:55] » Again, everything there. Well, with the
the pathway, it's it's on the it should
[2:20:59] be on the agenda. They said anything
that has been a rolling item on the
[2:21:02] agenda, which that is one of them. And
they're they're waiting on the um
[2:21:07] figuring out what the right of ways are.
So, I actually um I I did get a little
[2:21:12] bit passive aggressive um with DOT. Um
we were having a discussion about
[2:21:17] cutting down the trees on the north end
and they had informed us that the
[2:21:20] village must pay for that. And I said,
"But that's your right of way, so
[2:21:25] shouldn't you pay for it?" And then yes.
Well, and then they said, "Well, I don't
[2:21:29] have the the right-of-way documents."
And I said, "Well, I do. Here you go."
[2:21:32] And I emailed it to them. So,
>> that's that Margaret lady, right?
[2:21:36] » Yes. Well, no, no, this was this was
Greg, the the head the head um
[2:21:40] » Yeah.
>> So, yeah, I did I did get a little pushy
[2:21:43] and said, you know, please review this
and please check the the pathway along
[2:21:47] there and then the north end of town.
>> You never heard from
[2:21:50] » I've not heard from I have not heard
from them yet. Yeah.
[2:21:54] The other question I have is with the
trees at north end, are they uh
[2:21:57] historical trees that have been approved
by the tree committee?
[2:22:01] » I don't believe so. I will double check
the list, the landmark trees list, but
[2:22:04] no, they're elm trees. So, I don't think
that they would they would be. Yeah. No.
[2:22:08] And and that's what th those those trees
have already been evaluated by an
[2:22:11] arborist and and they confirmed that
they are diseased and they need to come
[2:22:15] down. So
>> very good.
[2:22:16] » Even if they were landmark trees, that's
the process to remove a landmark tree is
[2:22:20] to get it um certified by an arborist
that there is a legitimate safety reason
[2:22:24] and having a diseased tree is a
legitimate safety reason. So we're
[2:22:28] covered either way.
>> Thank you for all the work. I I noticed
[2:22:31] twice you had to put those polls back up
that have the that have the signs. I
[2:22:35] mean that just proves the point that
they made earlier. They had to put up
[2:22:38] those what twice already, right? They
they keep knocking down those signs.
[2:22:43] » Amazing. Anyway, thank you very much,
council, for this is our fifth
[2:22:47] consecutive uh Tuesday meeting. I think
>> it is. It is. We actually get a little
[2:22:51] break next week, so we won't we won't
see you for two whole weeks.
[2:22:55] » Anyway, meeting
you.
[2:22:58] » Yes.
Hi.