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Thanks for

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this evening proposal related to

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parking, standing and stopping and also

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our public comment. Uh period. Welcome.

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If anybody would like to uh speak if

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you'd be good enough to sign in here,

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» thank you. Anybody

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want to speak at either?

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Oh, we got Mr. Chu. Okay.

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601 we'll do the public hearing.

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number one total local

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law amending article 11 of the city code

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for the department standing and stop.

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Mr. Chu you're signed for the public

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hearing.

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» I just had two question. Um, one is why

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does the council have to first give

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itself permission to put in parking

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meters before it decides? Why couldn't

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you just if you're going to put them in,

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just put them in? And the second

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question is, why do we need to keep our

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3:00 a.m. to 6 a.m. prohibition against

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public streets? For, for example, I want

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to car my driveway now, and where am I

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going to put my car?

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So, thank you for questions.

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>> I could probably answer questions.

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>> We got a public hearing.

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» Anybody else here uh for public hearing

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number one, proposed local law amending

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article 11 of the city code relating to

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parking, standing, and stopping.

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Last call. Proposed hearing number one,

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proposed local law amending article 11

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of the city code relating to parking,

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standing, and stopping.

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Hearing none, we'll close the public

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and uh we could call to order, please.

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» Council member to

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>> present. Council member Sllan

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>> here.

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>> Council member Panel

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>> here.

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>> Member Lane

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>> here.

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>> Member Con here.

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>> Council member Carpenter

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>> here.

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>> Member Beckwith present.

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>> Council member Michaels

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>> here. All right. Thursday.

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I pledge to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for it stands nationy

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and justice for all

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of them off their birthdays.

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» All right. Does anybody have anything

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for public comments?

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Okay, hearing none. Um,

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we'll go right to the uh fourth report.

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» All right. Thank you. Followed up with a

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constituent, the constituent who had a

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question about the change with the

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property tax collection and the impact

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potentially on school taxes and their

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collection. Um had a call actually today

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from a resident concerned. I'll follow

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up with DPW

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about the intersection of Yong and

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Louder and cars coming through there

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potentially not stopping at uh the

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intersection

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>> what intersection I'm sorry.

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>> Yong and Louder

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» that's it for today. Okay.

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>> Any more tubers?

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>> Um, I wound up helping people on Otter

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Creek because a lady called me. Uh, she

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was given she was mistaken I'm sorry. I

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was mistakenly identified as her alder

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person instead of Mary Cla. So, I just

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fielded it and I um let Mary Clair know

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what was going on. People on that street

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on Otter Creek were concerned about the

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university having property and trees

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that looked like they were going to come

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down. So I called a guy named Dan at

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building grounds in at Courtland. He was

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wonderful. He brought a couple people

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out to check it out. They decided to

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come back with a horiculturist

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and tree people, professional tree

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people, and they determined which ones

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were on whose property, what needed to

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be taken down, so everybody's happy. And

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he in turn asked me if I could talk to

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the mayor about cleaning up trees that

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are in the waterworks along the fields

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um and behind

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um the

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I'll call the University Police.

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>> Well, the police, but my family calls it

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the Temple of Fitness. They're um

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>> student life center. Thank you. Yeah.

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>> Temple of

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>> the Temple of Fitness.

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>> And the mayor said on it and it'll

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happen in the fall, but not before

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students come back. So, that was all

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good. And I texted the chief of police

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about five cars that I saw parked the

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wrong way on Main Street. If I have to

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back in, you guys have to back in.

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Somebody almost hit my husband who had

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backed in and was pulling out and they

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had pulled in fronts and swung out. So,

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this is a this is a danger. And that's

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it from the second word. Okay. All good.

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Um, you'll [clears throat] jump on this

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one. Uh, attended Captain uh

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Freriedman's retirement celebration as

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>> Oh, sorry. Chief.

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>> Well, we got to get rid of him.

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>> No, Chief Freeman's retirement

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celebration as as did Katie. And And it

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was wonderful. It was everything it

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should be. Um, they've started

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construction on the new dorm at the

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college.

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It's going to be interesting.

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Um, and that's it from the board.

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>> I have a board meeting on Monday, July

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25th. Deputy Fire Chief Reynolds was

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kind enough to come and answer some

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questions from constituents as was Rich

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Cunningham of Toma who presented on some

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microenterprise grants and housing uh

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rehabilitation programs as well. Uh

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there was one question I just want to

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get clarification on from the board

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meeting. Bikes on Main Street, are they

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allowed in the street?

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Is it the same on Central? Okay, that

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was my understanding. So, I will clear

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that up with some folks. Um,

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two crosswalk issues that I've not had a

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chance to reach out to DBW on the

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crosswalk out front of the rock crossing

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to the old Portland.

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That button is malfunctioning again. Um,

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and there's a crosswalk uh on the 1890

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house side of uh Tomkins crossing to

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noticed that one earlier today. So, I

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just want to mention those two.

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>> Pros. Uh, yes. Correct. And that does it

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for the fiscal.

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» Um, I know I was at the downtown music

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series last week and Troy was there on

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Friday. One of my constituents came up

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to me issuing the water problem on

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Hickory Park Road. Very upset again. Um,

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that center lane. We've been taking this

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thing down the road forever. And uh I

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thought there was some money in the

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springtime to get that done, but we have

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to really think about getting that done

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up down in that area because there's no

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drainage down that area. I don't know if

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we're going to put down the the pond

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down there or [clears throat]

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complaints.

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>> Want to congratulate the city police for

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uh making the arrest on the deal mural

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down there.

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>> Good police work done.

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something can't something as beautiful

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as that is destroy. So

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>> 14 14 acts of

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>> one verse of that one. Yeah. Okay.

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>> Good work.

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» Just ready on Brian. I did make it to

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three out of the four made music I made.

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I guess Sparky and the crew. I don't

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know. Can't hear them all. So, um, they

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did a great job and they had nice

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weather for all of them and, uh, he said

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next year's hopefully be better. It's

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been what, three or four years since we

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had it really,

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>> Uh, remind you again next meeting about

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pork fashes coming up. It's a huge thing

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I think in Brian's word.

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» And then, uh, I believe they're supposed

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to be ticketing people now going the

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wrong way back back in the wrong way on

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Maine now, right? I just want to bring

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that up. So, they keep doing it. they're

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going to get ahead yet. But and uh other

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than that, I think that's all I had.

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>> Uh just a few things. Uh also attended

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the fire chief's uh walk out uh last

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Friday. Very very moving

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have uh three code related issues. Uh

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one's already been resolved. It's my

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understanding. letter is going out to uh the second individual and third

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individuals in Troy's ward. So I'll

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catch up with Troy before I leave

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tonight. See how he'd like to handle

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that and uh that's all I have my report.

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so I just address Mr. Chu's questions

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real quick. Um so the um parking

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committee went reviewed everything

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reviewed all the items to do for the

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parking and uh we change those laws we

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needed to or change the fees and do

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those fines we need to change how we

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orchestrated our if we do fees would

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have to be done through that law first.

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So, cargo or the horse either way, but

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we've been talking openly about both.

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So, they know that that's the intent of

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doing that. And as far as the 3:00 a.m.

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to 6:00 p.m., I mean, with the trash

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pickups, the snow falling, that's the

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purpose of not allowing skew parking,

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but you can always there's a website

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place to get on the police website uh

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police on our website and police to log

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in your car. So, if you do have to pave

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your seal your driveway, do it. And

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certainly they use common sense. If they

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see a driveway sealed there and a car is

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outside, they're not going to get a

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ticket anyways. And if they do, it's

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certainly appealable.

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>> Still call

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it online. So online that site.

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>> Uh so a lot of good things happened. U

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you know, again, I want to give Deputy

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Chief Brown some kudos on a couple

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things. one, you know, the walk out

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ceremony, the grand staff and

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organization to that was impeccable. It

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was uh really deserving. I don't I don't

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know that you could say it was any more

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perfect than that,

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>> except for it was very hot for everybody

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that wasn't in the shade where we were.

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>> I apologize. I think we had three people

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>> kind of go down to that some very hot

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sweat, right, Chief? Yes.

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>> So, uh but it was very good. I

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appreciate your efforts and putting that

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together as well as the first responders

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can't certainly if it wasn't for your

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push it wouldn't happen this year. So by doing that in a very economical way

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made it work for people in the How many

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children did we hit?

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>> Just over 250

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>> and so and it was pretty impressive. And

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if you listen to the kids talk or TLC

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was there and Marathon ambulance was

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there as well as our fleece fire uh and

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the communications and the dialogues. I

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heard one

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kid talk about the drone operator which

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was our lieutenant. I was very pleased

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to be able to have a conversation and

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you know parents came up to me and said

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that they have always told their kids

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not to talk to police officers because

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that's what they were told. So I think

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it broke at least that once that stigma

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so there is importance to it that we

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don't always get. So uh but those were

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just conversations I happened to be

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near. Uh so that was great. Um, you

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know, we had some great celebrations.

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The ADA celebration, Arts on Maine, uh,

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were were all good events. Arts on, I

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guess they call it now. All great great

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events to have. Certainly the, uh, class

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reunion was held for the first time as a group. That was highly successful.

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No incidents. Same with the concert

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series. They've been highly attended,

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doing well. You know, last Friday we had

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the concert series. We had a band at the

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Brew and somebody playing at CBC. So

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within a block of each other, we have

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three different groups playing and

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certainly was bumping downtown for sure.

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So they're wearing out the crosswalk but

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it's mainly um and so that's great and

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certainly good things coming ahead.

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Porchfest is great. You know the summer

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concert series we have Molly and the

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ring walls and of course the with the

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porch fest after that uh as well and

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that's on the 13th. But then the uh this

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uh Thursday's community beach party

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which starts at uh 5 and goes to 7:00

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and that's just all the different u um

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vendors that are there that different

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people different aspects of the

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community that can help and then tailor

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M's playing at 7 to 9:00 and then moving

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under the stars of legal at 6 8 to 10 on

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the beach. So it's going to be a a fun

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uh exciting month that's the first time

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out uh which is great. Uh currently

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working projects uh wastewater uh start

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meeting with the contractors to do that

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expansion project that starts Thursday.

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We're going to go with that Thursday

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morning. The road work started yesterday

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and is continuing today. Uh um we're

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working on the Randle Park bids and the

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gaming park bids went out for the

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engineers. They came in still working on

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the demo demo for the roundhouse mill.

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Trying to get some clarification with

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the state on that. And um you know I

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want to just have a reminder you talk

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about back in parking. We've had a

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couple incidents where one person was

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speeding really fast at down Main

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Street, uh, excessive speed, and were

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able to catch them as well. But, uh, we

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had another one where somebody was

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speeding past and I think that's being

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investigated. They went went to go

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around them and it hit another car and

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that was backing and drove in, hit him

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into the next car. it it's happening and

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uh people just need to slow down and not

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think that they can just navigate those areas in uh is not not safe for

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sure. Um I think

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>> can you say something about kids

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>> as far as it being just agreed?

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>> Yes. So, um,

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>> yeah, again, I think, uh, there's a

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press release in everybody's packet that

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was issued today by the code office. OD

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office been doing a phenomenal job.

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We're up to 139 of the red tags we've

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taken off, um, and uh, on buildings and some we had to tear down, which this

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was one of those cases, but this was a

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property that was neglected for a long

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time. I think Chief Liz Nichols was here

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when they had all the excessive cats in

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that property. wheels we refer

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>> 250 cast.

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So since then it's been kind of getting

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in rough disrepair. So fortunately that

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historic building we had to come down

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and now the back property but we did

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were able to get a court hearing which

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is the largest fine and the best fine.

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So thanks to uh Randall Lewis's work and

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the code office work together to uh

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drive towards making these things make

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holding people accountable for their

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properties as well has shown the success

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and uh you know I think the port the

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part about doing this release is making

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people recognize that uh you know we're

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going to try to clean things up and our

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challenge keeps things moving forward

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and that's that's what

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>> yeah I guess for Tuesday that will be

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through

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>> that's correct. Right. Pete mentioned

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park meters. So yeah,

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>> once it gets approved, if we approve it,

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there'll be it's all done on your ad.

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There's not going to be new meters put

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up this.

401
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>> There will be striping of the streets

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either.

403
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>> And there's going to be signage and all

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that.

405
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>> Yeah.

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>> I just wanted to comment that because

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you did mention park. We're not

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parking in.

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>> All right. With that we move on to did I

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answer your question? I think

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>> all right. Um so we'll move on to

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acceptance of the minutes that motion to

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accept the minutes.

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Okay.

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» Any questions?

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>> No comments about board reports in the

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minutes.

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» But no there's not. My point was to that

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was there there was no actionable items

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in in that in that documentation and a

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lot of dis disarray and confusion. So it

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best to just delete it without that

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there's something specific that was

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actual put it in there but all right

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it's all

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» okay that anybody else please

427
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all those in favor

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>> I post carried

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uh resolutions agenda item number one

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adopt local law number two 2026

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regarding Amending article 11 the code

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city of Portland related to burn

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>> I'll move it

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any questions discussion

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please

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council member to

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>> I council member Silus

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>> hi

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>> council member panel

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>> council member lane

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>> hi

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>> council member

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>> hi

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>> council member carpenter hi

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>> council member beckwith

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>> hi

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>> council member

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I

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>> agenda item number two. Adopt schedule

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of fees, fines, and penalties.

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» Resolved that the city of Portland

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schedule, excuse me, schedule of fees,

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fines, and penalties. the next year too.

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Uh B and the same hereby is adopted and

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implemented by this common council

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effective August 5th, 2026

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be further resolved with any fee fund or

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penalty being adjusted by said schedule

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which was previously paid and covering a

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period extending beyond August 5th,

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202.6

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shall not create an additional fee owing

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here. and be further resolved that to

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promote transparency and ensure

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convenient public access, the city clerk

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shall post that schedule on the homepage

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of the city website under the prominent

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heading fees and payments.

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And I've got the uh URL address listed

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there in the resolution as well as other

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key department pages where it can be

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readily found by the public and make

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such schedule available in hard copy

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format in all city offices.

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I hear a motion.

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Mr. B Michaels any questions?

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>> When we do do the signage up

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if we approve it should be that taken by

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that call.

480
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>> Uh no um because those barcodes

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sometimes people put stickers over them

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and ch them right that

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>> I just I got people start sending money

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to the wrong place. Well, we don't want

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that to happen.

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>> They text their code.

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>> We'll just have to get it out there.

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People aren't figuring it out. Anybody

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else on the resolution?

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>> I was under the impression after the

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last code committee meeting, we were

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going to get together one more time and

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discuss would be revisions in front of

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us.

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>> I believe we did. That was I don't know.

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But that was I think it was all signed same

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as

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>> I know Mr. Lewis said the document

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present. So

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» I talked to Roy about his concerns and

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then said

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>> were you in the impression we're going

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to meet again or was I mistaken? I

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missed a couple of those meetings, so I

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could have very well missed the very

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last.

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I thought I thought we were also

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Did you have

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>> Yeah.

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I thought

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concerns or questions just

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question. So page four through about

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seven or eight uh change to the rental

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certificate of compliance. Um I'm under

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the impact this is what was just

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instituted last year. Correct.

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It was a change to the rental

518
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correct

519
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um the concern was raised that the

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law as it was didn't uniformly treat all

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landlords.

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um this landlords who had and I'll use

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the extreme example of the building on

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Tomkins which is sorority that houses 65

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young ladies um they were paying one

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rate and because they were big they

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received a greater discount than would

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somebody who had a 12 unit apartment

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building that would house the same 65

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people. So, this basically treats the

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people that are have a big sorority

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house and the people that have

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individual

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one or two or four family units,

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whatever they are, um the same way. So,

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it it pulls those two things in line.

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The other two changes that the committee

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um came up with was um

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if we do the it's one change, but

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there's two parts to it. If we do the

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inspection the first time around and if

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for the three-year period the landlord

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has no work orders put against their

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property, meaning we don't have to go in

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and mow the yard, we don't have to go in

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and pick up garbage or anything like

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that or clear the sidewalks. And if they

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have no appearances that get sent to

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court, so it doesn't mean they don't

550
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,080
have a violation in their inspection

551
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,280
because the violation could be

552
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,600
something, you know, pretty minor. But

553
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,200
if they get a notice of violation and

554
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200
they cure it before it would have to go

555
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200
to court, they would be allowed to renew

556
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,080
the next time around for 50%. of of the

557
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,039
renewal rate. So that's a big we they

558
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:30,240
really like the idea of providing an

559
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,400
incentive to landlords to keep the

560
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,760
properties up and stay in compliance. So

561
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,200
um those are really the two major

562
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,960
changes when it came to that component.

563
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,480
There's a few tweaks to some of the

564
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720
other parts of the the vine. They're all

565
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,799
in red, but they're all pretty minor.

566
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,039
Um, okay. If you have any questions, I

567
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:48,000
can go over them.

568
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480
>> Can you explain what what happens if

569
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,200
someone a landlord does have a lot of

570
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,320
violations, either code violations or or

571
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,919
quarters for this city,

572
00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:02,000
>> their rental certificate of compliance

573
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,200
would be revoked. um at which point they

574
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,799
would have to appear in front of the

575
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:11,679
city's appeals panel to attempt to um

576
00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:13,120
for lack of a better better word I'll

577
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,360
call it a plan of corrective action. Um

578
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,120
they would have to show how are we going

579
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,279
to become a better compliance property.

580
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,080
Um if it's a single family home and it's

581
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080
has eight people living in it and that's

582
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000
not workable for whatever reason, maybe

583
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,880
they need to reduce the occupancy. um

584
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,440
maybe they just got a really bad um

585
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,320
group of tenants and they're evicting

586
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,760
all of them and they want to try again

587
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,039
and they promise us we're going to

588
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,279
screen better the next time around. Um

589
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:40,640
so I mean there there's a lot of

590
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,559
different options that could come into

591
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,760
play. Um if they lose their rental

592
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,559
certificate, then it also loses the the

593
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,320
ability for the tenants to live there.

594
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,320
So they would also get cited with living

595
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,600
in a property without a rental

596
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,600
certificate. So it's kind of a two-way

597
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,679
street. And the number of people, the

598
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:02,720
number of occupants in a building is

599
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,799
based on New York state law.

600
00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,080
>> New York State fire. Um, in order for a

601
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,960
prop to be occupied, a bed has to be a

602
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,799
certain number of square feet. I believe

603
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:16,230
it's 70

604
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,440
» 7 by 10.

605
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,919
>> It has to have a window. There has to be

606
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:23,039
an area.

607
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:24,799
>> And then if it's for two people, it's a

608
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:26,400
bigger square footage. three a bigger

609
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,919
square footage, four a bigger square

610
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:29,760
footage once you get to a certain number

611
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,679
of occupants. Then common areas also are

612
00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:36,400
required to be of certain sizes. Um so

613
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,400
there's a whole matrix that the code

614
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,679
department goes through when they

615
00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:42,640
determine what the appropriate um number

616
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,520
of occupants is. You can't you can't go

617
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,120
through one bedroom to get to the next

618
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,720
bedroom. So there has to be a separate

619
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,880
entrance from that bedroom. So the whole

620
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,559
list of things that they verify are

621
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,880
there. Can anybody be grandfathered in?

622
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,559
>> There's no grandfathering for that

623
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:00,080
because this is New York State Fire

624
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,679
Code. So, it's a health and safety code.

625
00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:03,679
It's not a zoning code where it's a

626
00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:06,720
prior non-conforming use. There is a

627
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,400
limited ability for a party to seek a

628
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,919
waiver from the New York State Fire. Um,

629
00:26:13,919 --> 00:26:17,120
if the if the the bedroom is off by

630
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:18,960
three or five square ft or something

631
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,799
like that, my understanding is the state

632
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,919
will quite readily grant those waiverss.

633
00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:25,919
If it's off by 10 or 15 square feet,

634
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:29,279
you're not going,

635
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:30,720
>> but we have no control over that. That's

636
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,400
up state fire whether or not they grant

637
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,039
a waiver. Um, I believe we may make a

638
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:36,720
recommendation on it when it goes in,

639
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,640
but it's really their call at the end of

640
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,559
the day.

641
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:41,760
>> Okay.

642
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,039
>> Yes.

643
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:46,559
So the part that's not changed um it

644
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:48,559
talks about the number of occupants for

645
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,400
four unit or less. Is it the number of

646
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,880
occupants that are actually there or the

647
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,799
number that it could possibly house

648
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,080
based upon state fire code or how how is

649
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080
the number of occupants determined? It

650
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,279
it's determined on two things. one, they

651
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,200
fill out an application listing a number

652
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,960
of occupants and then when it's

653
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,880
inspected, it be determined whether or

654
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,600
not that number of occupants is um

655
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240
correct. So, if you had a house with

656
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,840
four bedrooms in it, all of those

657
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,159
bedrooms may be appropriate size to put

658
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:24,240
two people in them. But if I'm a

659
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,039
landlord and I know I'm running to

660
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,240
students and they each want their own

661
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,440
bedroom, they don't want to share a

662
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,360
bedroom, I'm probably going to only ask

663
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:32,720
for four because it's cheaper than

664
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,760
asking for eight. So, yes, the size of

665
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,520
the rooms does determine the maximum

666
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,919
occupancy, but the landlord certainly

667
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:42,080
could ask for less, and I'm sure we do

668
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,600
have some landlords that do because the

669
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,400
preference seems to be one student per

670
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,000
room at this point.

671
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,919
Could you go over how the changes to the

672
00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:56,399
rental certificate compliance, this

673
00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:58,559
final version compares to the draft? We

674
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:01,600
made several revisions along the way and

675
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,520
uh my impression was we'd be getting a

676
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,039
side by side before we moved to the

677
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,559
vote. So I apologize if it's off on

678
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,640
that, but could you go through those

679
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,080
changes and how they compare to this

680
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,440
final draft?

681
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:18,070
>> Sure.

682
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,240
So for single unit properties, there was

683
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,919
no change the fee structure at all. um

684
00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:28,640
for multi-unit properties, it treated

685
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,559
every unit as a $300 unit. So if you

686
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:37,279
take a 10unit property, um

687
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,870
it's

688
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,279
$1,900. In the past, that would have

689
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,279
been $3,000.

690
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,640
Um so if it the 19 unit compares to on

691
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,279
the other side to what it would be, so

692
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:55,200
that's really 37 to 40 occupants. Um

693
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,480
because most multi-units,

694
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,919
two, three bedrooms is the max. You're

695
00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:01,600
not going to find a 10 unit where there

696
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720
are five bedrooms. So um to kind of keep

697
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,720
that fair, it basically tracks the

698
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,640
number of occupants based on the number

699
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,360
of units. It's not an exact science, but

700
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600
it it comes much closer into the

701
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,720
ballpark, and that's one of the things

702
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,559
the committee was concerned about. um

703
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,840
any litigation concerning um rental

704
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,840
things like this, the watch word for the

705
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640
course is uniformity. Um so that was the

706
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,840
one thing that we wanted to make sure

707
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,080
that we were hitting was uniformity and

708
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,919
we feel this moves much closer to

709
00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:36,159
uniformity. It's not exact. It never

710
00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:38,080
will be, but it's it's pretty darn

711
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,120
close. Um

712
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000
how do these the original revenue

713
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,080
projections, how does that compare to

714
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,440
the draft with the changes?

715
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,080
the original revenue projections were

716
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,240
undoubtedly overstated. Um

717
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840
where it's going to come out.

718
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,480
It's really difficult to say um because

719
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,559
it's a three-year renewal process. Um

720
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,840
we've had some properties that we did

721
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480
send letters out to that for the first

722
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,600
time in years and years and years we're

723
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,399
getting an application on. So, that's

724
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,960
obviously going to be an increase. Um,

725
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960
other properties,

726
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,640
um,

727
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,880
you know, we we are working with the

728
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,880
landlords to get the inspections and

729
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200
things done. Where it's actually going

730
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,880
to come out. Roy could probably tell you

731
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,640
better than I can. I don't follow that

732
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,360
department's budgetary numbers. Um,

733
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,881
I think he was expecting to come out

734
00:30:41,881 --> 00:30:42,480
[clears throat]

735
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,679
>> right about 50 to 60% of that what was

736
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:47,679
budgeted. Yeah. Originally, I think he

737
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,120
was thinking 50 or a little less. I

738
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,480
think now it's probably 50 to 60.

739
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Something's going to come out a little

740
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000
better than expected, but not where it

741
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,640
was budgeted.

742
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,000
>> And that's as percentage of the

743
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,919
original. Correct. Correct.

744
00:30:57,919 --> 00:30:59,840
>> And when this process went through, the

745
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,799
Chief Reedman requested that 50% of what

746
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,840
was in there as realistic numbered.

747
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,080
>> The biggest key, Tom, is you got you're

748
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,000
going to have to follow is the ones that

749
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,080
in the past that don't obey what rights

750
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,679
we're going to have to go after them. I

751
00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:17,120
know we got ours all sent in or they're

752
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,799
due to be sent in. They're all filled

753
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,279
out, but

754
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,039
in the past people didn't do it. I don't

755
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:25,200
think we had any legal thing to go after

756
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880
them for not doing it. Well, two two

757
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760
things that come into play there. Um the

758
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,320
college has worked with us that in order

759
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000
to

760
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,080
use your student aid for rental, it

761
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,720
needs to be a city approved property.

762
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,240
So, that's one of the things. So, if

763
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,760
somebody doesn't get their certificates

764
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,679
in, we will notify the college that that

765
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:47,600
property is out of compliance and then

766
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,760
they can't use their student aid to pay

767
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,240
their rent. Um, which does then put a

768
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,679
hardship on the landlord unfortunately

769
00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:54,880
because they'll have to evict that

770
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,880
student. But, um,

771
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,240
>> but I'm talking about some of our

772
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,760
properties that are college,

773
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,760
>> right? College housing, it's another

774
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,480
issue. Um, I mean, a lot of the the

775
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,320
properties also receive property from

776
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,480
section of money through section 8. we

777
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,399
can contact section 8, let them know the

778
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:12,399
property is non-compliant. I can't

779
00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:13,919
guarantee you section 8 will do anything

780
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:15,919
with that, but we can contact them and

781
00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:18,399
let them know. Um, you know, so I mean

782
00:32:18,399 --> 00:32:19,679
there there are avenues that are

783
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,200
available to us and they will be cited

784
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,480
with a notice of violation and

785
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,760
eventually an appearance ticket and

786
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,960
they'll be taken to court and any fine

787
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,840
that is levied by the court on these

788
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,840
will be relevied against the property if

789
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,519
the owner doesn't pay it. So eventually

790
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:34,960
the property would end up being taken

791
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,760
for back taxes. But I think you have the

792
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,760
right to do something or sexual section

793
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,679
8 is being a health and safety. I think

794
00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:43,760
the city should be able to step in. And

795
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,519
if it's a health and safety issue, we if

796
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,360
it's precedes everything,

797
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,039
>> right? I mean, the property can be shut

798
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,480
down when the threat is imminent to

799
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,679
lower it.

800
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:54,000
>> The state did change that that code a

801
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,279
little bit to make it a little harder

802
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:56,960
for the city to do that. I mean, it has

803
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,279
to be a true imminent threat now. Um,

804
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:00,880
but if there is an imminent threat, I

805
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,640
mean, they can clear the property and

806
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,519
secure it. All in all, I think the

807
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,919
numbers are going to be substantial if

808
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:13,350
we can get everybody's compliant.

809
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,440
» So the numbers in red, the five units

810
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,320
and more goes up significantly. Uh

811
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,399
there's no comparison. Were these these

812
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,960
were changed. So were they brought down?

813
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640
>> They were all lowered. They were all

814
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,000
lowered.

815
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,840
>> Basically, if you take the number of

816
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,519
units, it would have been times 300

817
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,840
under the old scheme. So under the old

818
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,159
system it was so if you had a 100 units

819
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:36,559
it would have been $30,000 now it's

820
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,880
15,000 something but that makes it

821
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,519
closer to apples to apples with the

822
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,000
large

823
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,159
single buildings best way I can put it

824
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:48,640
the fraternity houses sority houses and

825
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,000
they're the ones that are the that

826
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,519
you're going to find 40 people living in

827
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,679
a single house 60 people living in a

828
00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:54,720
single house

829
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,240
>> Brian when they first started the fee

830
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,919
schedule was

831
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:02,399
>> yeah okay so that would force landlords,

832
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:03,840
you could reach out and get your own

833
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080
engineer to come in and certify it. We

834
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,600
didn't want to do that because the fire

835
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,800
department's going to have to fight the

836
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,960
fire. We we brought it way down more

837
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,869
reasonable to make them take control

838
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:18,320
cuz you want the fire department to get

839
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,520
in there. Some of them we probably won't

840
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,440
be able to probably like you know we

841
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,159
should be able to do them all but we

842
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,280
need to be there and be active and

843
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,040
proactive I guess is the word to say to

844
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,399
have the fire department will come in

845
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:33,520
inspect them all. So when we talk and

846
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,879
>> you know it's nice to have the fire

847
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:36,960
department there the inspections but by

848
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,040
right as a landlord you can find your

849
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,119
own inspector to go in and do them

850
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,960
>> and a lot of times it's this this is

851
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,240
what you get. They never even come to

852
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:45,679
the place. We don't want that. We want

853
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,280
the fire department to be involved. So,

854
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,879
we brought the fee schedule

855
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,320
>> to incentivize that.

856
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,079
>> Yeah. Way down.

857
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,839
>> And we had to give the fight the

858
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:58,320
landlords a choice by law. We couldn't

859
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,839
just demand the facility.

860
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:01,200
>> I'm not saying someone still won't do

861
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,400
it, but then the ones we

862
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,920
>> we didn't want to condone the places

863
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,560
anyway. So,

864
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,160
>> and we did limit them to do the

865
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880
inspections for a landlord to a licensed

866
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,480
design professional.

867
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,000
>> So, they can't just get somebody to walk

868
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,680
through it and say, "It looks good to

869
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,560
me." So whoever puts their signature

870
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,480
stand up putting their license at the

871
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,359
risk if they're doing the you know

872
00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:25,119
taking it just not looking at the

873
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:27,520
property. So no guarantee it won't

874
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,800
happen right

875
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,839
>> but if you have a professional

876
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:31,359
engineering license for an architecture

877
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:32,560
license

878
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,359
>> you probably don't want to lose it.

879
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:38,160
>> So the fees are the proposed fees are

880
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,320
going down but the expected revenue is

881
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,880
up.

882
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,160
>> Well they're going down for what the

883
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,079
original proposition said like So what

884
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:47,760
is budgeted? They're they're

885
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680
anticipating just based on getting the

886
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,839
house to all those sites. What was

887
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:54,560
budgeted was budgeted was more for a

888
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,160
three-year plan because everybody's on a

889
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,920
three-year cycle for that inspection. It

890
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,839
was not attainable to get it in one

891
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:02,079
year. So that was one flaw. And then the

892
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,440
second flaw was that. So the idea is to

893
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160
they it's going to hit 50 to 60% as a

894
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,240
projected number of what they are. We're

895
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,480
not finances next meeting. Good. We'll

896
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,320
take a look at that next meeting.

897
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,280
are publicly numbered right now, but

898
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,880
>> well, it's something new. So,

899
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,599
>> yeah. I mean, all the good landlords had

900
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,000
no problem. What's going on? And like

901
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,520
you made a good point.

902
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,800
>> You're going to have some trouble

903
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,680
landlord.

904
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,359
>> The college kids do look at this stuff

905
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:34,160
now. Back in the old days, they didn't.

906
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,000
A lot of these parents wanted, hey, do

907
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,240
they have, you know, a certificate? They

908
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,440
do look at it.

909
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,480
>> And if they don't have it, they're not

910
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,680
going to let their kid go.

911
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,800
>> Yeah.

912
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,079
and knowing that they were going to site

913
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,720
the landlord, they don't apply, which is

914
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,280
because

915
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,280
>> that they had to have a certificate

916
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,440
posted next to the door. Correct.

917
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,920
>> Correct.

918
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,240
>> But I don't think I ever saw that. Well,

919
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,599
you put them up there, but the next time

920
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:58,000
you go there, fire escape plan, the size

921
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,520
of the rooms, all that's got to be

922
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:05,750
posted into

923
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,000
» So, I had been under the impression

924
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,119
perhaps I could have been more clear

925
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,839
with my request that we in the final

926
00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:13,839
proposal would have a sidebyside

927
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:17,599
comparing it to the original. Um, I had

928
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,839
some concerns about the scale of the

929
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:22,320
reduction from the original proposal.

930
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Um, I don't want to hold things up too

931
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,320
much. I'm happy to have conversations on

932
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,280
the side. Um, my concerns are specific

933
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,560
to the the code changes and since we'll

934
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,800
be getting the finances on it next week,

935
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,000
I think it may make more sense to hold

936
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,240
off on this section of it until we have

937
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,720
a, you know, an impact on the the

938
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,359
finances and vote on this next meeting.

939
00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:51,440
There is no code changes in this

940
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:51,920
proposal.

941
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400
>> I think he means the the RCC fees that

942
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,359
are changing.

943
00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:02,150
>> Yes.

944
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,280
» So you want to vote on it

945
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,760
except for that section or hold the

946
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,359
whole thing in time next time?

947
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:11,680
>> My biggest concern is with this section

948
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,720
and and the impact on the finances from

949
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,640
it. So, I'm planning moving forward with

950
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,160
the rest of this meeting if that

951
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,320
streamlines things or that's beneficial

952
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,680
and just discussing this section at next

953
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,119
council meeting if that works for

954
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:26,320
others.

955
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,920
>> I'll just vote no.

956
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,320
>> I can do that as well. I was proposing a

957
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,040
compromise.

958
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960
>> Yeah, maybe a compromise would be this

959
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,560
can always be amended. These rates are

960
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,720
done. We did it by resolution for that

961
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,520
reason, but unless there's a majority of

962
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,200
us to do it, there's a lot of other ones

963
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200
that impact that. It's all one document.

964
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,280
You're getting too close to college.

965
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,560
>> Yeah.

966
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,640
>> Well, I but I think I think you know to request respect your past. I think we

967
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,800
could have that discussion more and then

968
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,119
go back and just amend those if you

969
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,950
wanted to later.

970
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,119
» I'm more comfortable voting no currently

971
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:05,440
than having discussion in this feature.

972
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,520
>> But I would still like that.

973
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,280
>> I would as well. So I I do appreciate

974
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,440
that, Mr. Mayor. Right.

975
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
>> Anybody else?

976
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,880
Wait, excuse me. Page 11, the garbage

977
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200
fees for the dumpster corral. Uh,

978
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,640
there's a number and then there's a

979
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,400
number in parentheses. Were these an

980
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,520
adjustment?

981
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,839
>> Those are an adjustment as well. That

982
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:30,400
does show the side by side. Um,

983
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,800
the anything in parentheses is what it

984
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960
was before. So, if it says new, like as

985
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960
you'll see underneath the graffiti

986
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,720
removal, the work order fees, that's

987
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,560
new. um if the number is in parenthesis

988
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,800
it in that case they went down. Um and

989
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,119
the reason that went down is because

990
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,599
when we went through the budget with the

991
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,599
garbage committee

992
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,720
the fees that were listed were not were

993
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,480
more than charging for the service we're

994
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,640
providing. And the goal was never for

995
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,160
garbage to be a money maker. It was to

996
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,480
be to cover the costs of the garbage.

997
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,400
And the fees just did not line up with

998
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,079
that. So, we went through and refigured

999
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,119
out the fees um

1000
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,520
and created some more categories because

1001
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,880
again, you were treating a restaurant

1002
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,960
like say community the same as New York

1003
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,040
bagel who doesn't really have anywhere

1004
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,280
near the sit down capacity and the the

1005
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,960
type of garbage they're creating, you

1006
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,320
know, or the Hollywood is completely

1007
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,240
different to a, you know, a small shop

1008
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,560
that might only be open for breakfast or

1009
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,240
lunch or just serve coffee or something

1010
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,720
like staff. So, it creates two tiers of

1011
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,320
restaurants, two tiers of retail

1012
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,599
businesses. Um, it creates a new um

1013
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,599
small office um and then also a

1014
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,720
commercial one and commercial two um

1015
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,680
rest, you know, uh category

1016
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,640
example there. when Central obviously is

1017
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,800
a big office,

1018
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Ed Gooler is one guy with maybe a

1019
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,200
part-time secretary that he has. It's

1020
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,319
not fair that they're paying the same

1021
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:11,040
amount for garbage. So, it just again to

1022
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,720
try to get that uniformity, try to keep

1023
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,400
things fair, we created some more

1024
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,599
categories and went through and

1025
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,599
reallocated everything. Um, and we

1026
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,119
looked at what it would be like once the

1027
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:20,800
all of downtown is laid out with the

1028
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,319
garbage um corral system. And this will

1029
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,240
more than cover the cost and provide a

1030
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,400
little bit of extra money for keeping

1031
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,640
the fencing up to date replacing things

1032
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,319
that need to be replaced and things like

1033
00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:39,670
that. Um

1034
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,760
Chuck did a very long analysis of that

1035
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,440
to come up with what the keep out

1036
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,520
correct u

1037
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,240
amounts were for that.

1038
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,240
>> Anybody else?

1039
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:54,000
Page 14, uh, parking fees,

1040
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,160
business and residential lists a one, a

1041
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,040
three, six month, and then 12 month.

1042
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,319
The, and it looks like it's scaled so

1043
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:04,880
that the longer the permit that you get,

1044
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,800
the less per month that you pay,

1045
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,319
correct? But when you look at

1046
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:11,200
residential, the six month, uh, it's

1047
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,760
sort of an anomaly. It's more than

1048
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,400
>> math doesn't math. really expensive.

1049
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,800
>> It's more expensive to get a six month

1050
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,750
than to get two three month

1051
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,670
» or to get a one month or six months.

1052
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:39,670
» It is a good catch that is tight for um

1053
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,920
you want to do math now or should we

1054
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,040
approve and come back?

1055
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,599
Everybody's looking at your calculator.

1056
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,040
Yeah, I'll I'll need a couple seconds to

1057
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,319
do some math on that.

1058
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:52,079
>> Okay,

1059
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:57,349
>> we'll add a new line and we'll go back.

1060
00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:59,119
» Thank you.

1061
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:03,359
So for instance, if um if we talk to

1062
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:04,960
Portland

1063
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,560
County

1064
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,680
and Homer and they want to chip in

1065
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,040
um we might revisit the cost of

1066
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:21,109
nonresidential swim passes right

1067
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:21,920
down the road,

1068
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,400
>> right?

1069
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040
>> That would be great. Yeah. I mean,

1070
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,960
again, we hate to have to have charge

1071
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,839
those not working. I wish we didn't have

1072
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:31,040
to put that column in.

1073
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,599
>> I know,

1074
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,040
>> but that happened. Yeah.

1075
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,589
>> It did.

1076
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:38,800
» It's good you brought that up. That's

1077
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,040
page 16. That is a reduction. That

1078
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,319
corrects

1079
00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:45,200
>> the swim season passes family,

1080
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,880
>> adult, child.

1081
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,920
>> Yeah.

1082
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,520
>> Senior, they're all going to be

1083
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,079
decreased.

1084
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:55,359
>> Yeah. Those 125 and now it's for example

1085
00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:59,680
family was 225 and now 100 just

1086
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400
unbearable for for people we went

1087
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,079
discouraged people go away

1088
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:07,599
originally

1089
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,319
digital process was almost a punishment

1090
00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:12,319
it's not fair to them

1091
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:13,760
>> doable

1092
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,430
>> it should be $189

1093
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,280
is what it is is if you do a three

1094
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,920
threemonth path It's a 5% discount. A

1095
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,400
six-month pass is a 10% discount. The

1096
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560
full year pass is a 15% discount.

1097
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,960
>> So, six months is what?

1098
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,280
>> Uh 6 months to 10% discount. It should

1099
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,480
be 189 for the residential rate and then

1100
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,880
the 12-month rate is a 15% discount. So,

1101
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,440
it's just 5 10 15. The discount grows

1102
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,640
the longer you do it.

1103
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,560
>> So, are the others accurate?

1104
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,280
>> The rest of them are all correct. Yes.

1105
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,440
>> So, what is the amount for residential

1106
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,520
12 month? 357 for 12 month, 189 for 6

1107
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,670
month.

1108
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,160
» Good math.

1109
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:04,710
>> We did that. Hope people

1110
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,839
» Anybody else? So you got that amendment?

1111
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:11,280
>> Amendment. Okay. Thank you.

1112
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,400
>> Anybody else?

1113
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,670
Please.

1114
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,160
Hi,

1115
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,359
>> Council Member Silicon.

1116
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:19,760
>> Hi,

1117
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,880
>> Council Member Canelo.

1118
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,200
>> Hi,

1119
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,240
>> Council Member Lane.

1120
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:22,640
>> Hi,

1121
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,839
>> Council Member Calmer.

1122
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:24,560
>> No,

1123
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,839
>> Council Member Carpenter.

1124
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:26,480
>> Hi,

1125
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,680
>> Council Member Backwood.

1126
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,280
>> Hi, Council Member Michaels.

1127
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,839
>> Hi.

1128
00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:33,599
>> Agenda item number three, accept and

1129
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,040
recognize donation for the fire

1130
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,829
department.

1131
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:41,680
Resolve that the city of Portland County

1132
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,359
Council on behalf of Mayor Steve and the

1133
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:45,280
fire department expresses its gratitude

1134
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,079
for the generosity of the donors below.

1135
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:49,680
Be it further resolved that the council

1136
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,839
hereby accepts a donation of it below

1137
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:53,599
and appropriates into the accounts and

1138
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:56,079
for the purposes that's made below a

1139
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,119
donation from James and Cassandra Lewis

1140
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,280
now $100

1141
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,200
um into the TE 2044 account for

1142
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:17,910
automated external difficult

1143
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Hi,

1144
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,760
>> Council Member Ser.

1145
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,240
>> Hi,

1146
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,760
>> Council Member Panel. Hi,

1147
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,800
>> Council Member Lane.

1148
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,200
>> Hi,

1149
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,400
>> Council Member Con.

1150
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,160
>> Hi, Council Member Carpenter. Hi,

1151
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,440
>> Council Member Beck.

1152
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,880
>> Hi, Council Member Michaels.

1153
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,599
>> Hi.

1154
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,200
>> Item number four, accept and recognize

1155
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,200
donations to the police department.

1156
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,720
>> Resolved that the city of Corman County

1157
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,480
Council on behalf of Mayor Steve and the

1158
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,920
police department expresses its

1159
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,680
gratitude for the generosity of the

1160
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,240
donors below. We further resolve that

1161
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:43,839
common council hereby accepts the

1162
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:46,319
donation listed below. donation listed

1163
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:48,640
below and appropriates it to the

1164
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,920
accounts and for the purposes

1165
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,800
designated. Donation from Dorothy Duff

1166
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,430
in the amount of $1,749.98

1167
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,599
uh for the purchase of a K9 ballistic

1168
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,720
vest for P9 Addie and it'll be deposited

1169
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,920
to account TEO21.

1170
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,359
>> I'll move that second.

1171
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:09,200
>> No, Miss Lane.

1172
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,040
>> Chief, we got to get Addie at maybe at

1173
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,400
the next meeting. Can we get that to

1174
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,599
happen so everybody can

1175
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:20,069
>> Thank you very

1176
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:20,880
much.

1177
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,000
>> Council member Tob.

1178
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:22,400
>> Hi.

1179
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,520
>> Council member Sllan.

1180
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:23,920
>> Hi.

1181
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,960
>> Council member Panelloo.

1182
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,359
>> Hi.

1183
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:26,319
>> Council member Lane.

1184
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:26,720
>> Hi.

1185
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,760
>> Council member Conlin.

1186
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,160
>> Hi.

1187
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,280
>> Council member Carpenter.

1188
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,599
>> Hi.

1189
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:30,640
>> Council member Beckwit.

1190
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:30,960
>> Hi.

1191
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,079
>> Council member Michaels.

1192
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:32,800
>> Hi.

1193
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,960
>> Agenda item number five. Adopt policy

1194
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,280
for review and approval of murals in the

1195
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,079
historic district. Resolved that the

1196
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:41,839
city of Coral County Council hereby

1197
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:44,160
endorses and adopts the policy next tier

1198
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,480
2 titled policy for review and approval

1199
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,800
of murals in the historic district

1200
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,720
effective immediately and be it further

1201
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,400
resolved that the historic commission

1202
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
city clerk and the city code and zoning

1203
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,160
enforcement officer and then I got a

1204
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,880
typo to correct are authorized and

1205
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,880
directed to implement the procedure set

1206
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,800
forth in set policy for all future mural

1207
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,079
proposals within the historic district

1208
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:14,000
>> motion senator

1209
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,480
any questions just real quick like I

1210
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,400
mentioned last meeting something

1211
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,319
actually talk to Linda about that maybe

1212
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:22,400
we can get their help on that building

1213
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,880
so

1214
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,079
>> the art commission will be discussion

1215
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:26,480
involved

1216
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,040
>> next so if somebody wants a mural on

1217
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,680
their building they would have the

1218
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,960
artist do a mockup and then that would

1219
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,240
go for

1220
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:38,960
>> historic

1221
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,200
>> the the appropriate commission historic

1222
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,760
if it's downtown or committee if it's

1223
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,920
elsewhere.

1224
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,319
>> Okay. And so it wouldn't come before

1225
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:51,040
council at all.

1226
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,520
Um, I think in the policy it does state

1227
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,280
that the commission makes

1228
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:02,470
recommendations for the for the council.

1229
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,920
100 and a lot of that stuff Katy that we

1230
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,119
don't see like the zoning the

1231
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:11,359
planning department the historical

1232
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:13,680
department we don't normally see unless

1233
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,599
>> somebody's not happy with their decision

1234
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,240
they have the right to decide we don't

1235
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:19,920
see what they say we don't norally do

1236
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,680
that we take the recommendations same

1237
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,359
with the police commission the fire

1238
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:24,640
commission

1239
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,640
>> I I just wanted to uh double check

1240
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,119
before I spoke uh so in terms of

1241
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,079
approval of a mural it would not come

1242
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:36,720
before the council. Um the so currently

1243
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,559
any u certificate of appropriateness in

1244
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,480
the historic district if somebody wants

1245
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,400
to make a modification to the facade

1246
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,839
um they receive a certificate of

1247
00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:49,599
appropriateness from the historic

1248
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,480
commission and appeals are through the

1249
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,400
CPA. This would um be the same appeal

1250
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,920
process. If the commission denied a um

1251
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,559
mural or some aspect of it, the appeal

1252
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:06,319
would go to the ZBA.

1253
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:06,800
>> Okay.

1254
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,760
>> Then so this process would remain

1255
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,440
consistent with the existing process for

1256
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,240
facade changes.

1257
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:17,520
>> Okay.

1258
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,240
We did the other murals or Y's vision in

1259
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:23,280
the bank was saying, you know, it's a

1260
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,839
similar process passively. We need to

1261
00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:26,880
make it official.

1262
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,240
>> Have to put our faith in other people's

1263
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,800
aesthetics.

1264
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,000
>> Okay.

1265
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,480
>> Which you do

1266
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,839
>> if you're RC

1267
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:40,079
>> and that's the purpose of appointing the

1268
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,000
people. Yes.

1269
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,720
>> Anybody else? Anyone please?

1270
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,240
>> Council member Tober. I

1271
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,359
>> council member Silman.

1272
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:47,760
>> Hi.

1273
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,960
>> Council member Panel.

1274
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,599
>> Hi. Council

1275
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:50,319
>> member Lane.

1276
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:50,720
>> Hi.

1277
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:51,839
>> Council member Conway.

1278
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:52,240
>> Hi.

1279
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,359
>> Council member Carpenter.

1280
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:53,760
>> Hi.

1281
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,880
>> Council member Beckwith.

1282
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,200
>> Hi.

1283
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,319
>> Council member Michaels.

1284
00:50:56,319 --> 00:50:57,359
>> Hi.

1285
00:50:57,359 --> 00:50:59,520
>> Agenda item number six. Set public

1286
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,960
hearings on proposed local laws

1287
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,640
confirming with the agreement of the

1288
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,720
county of Portland for the collection of

1289
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,920
real properties tax.

1290
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,359
>> Resolve that the following public

1291
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:12,400
hearings are hereby scheduled. a public

1292
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,559
hearing August 8th, 2026 to adopt the

1293
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,800
local law repealing local law number one

1294
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,760
of 20ou of 1994.

1295
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,680
Uh this would opt out of the tax

1296
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,200
enforcement provisions of chapter 602

1297
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,520
of the laws of New York State of 1993.

1298
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,960
uh effective January 1st, 2027.

1299
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,599
Public hearing saying, all these are uh

1300
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,800
August 18th at 6 PM. The second to

1301
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,839
repeal article five of chapter 254

1302
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:48,240
uh related to collection of delinquent

1303
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,760
taxes.

1304
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,760
Uh the third to amend article 21 section

1305
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,400
six of the charter to change the date of

1306
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,680
the mayor's budget uh submission from

1307
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,520
October 15th to August 15th

1308
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,359
and a public hearing to amend article 21

1309
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:10,000
section 10 of the charter to change the

1310
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,920
date that the conf council must adopt

1311
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,720
the final city budget from December 31st

1312
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,119
to October 31st.

1313
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,040
All these being effect would be

1314
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,800
effective January 1st, 2027.

1315
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Be further resolved that the above

1316
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,880
public hearing shall be held on October

1317
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,400
18th, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. at 25 Court

1318
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,480
Street. Be further resolved that the

1319
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,240
city clerks hereby authorize and

1320
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:35,920
directed to publish notice of said

1321
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,520
public hearings in the official

1322
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,359
newspaper of the city in accordance with

1323
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:41,200
applicable provisions of New York State

1324
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,440
Law and the city charter and code of

1325
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,599
ordinances. I think

1326
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,119
>> I think you said October 18.

1327
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,960
>> Did I say misspoke? It is. It should be

1328
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,990
August.

1329
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,880
» Second.

1330
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,470
>> Any questions?

1331
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,119
» Please.

1332
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,240
>> Council member Tob.

1333
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:04,559
>> Hi.

1334
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:06,079
>> Council member Silicon. Hi.

1335
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,599
>> Council member Panel.

1336
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:08,559
>> Council member Lane.

1337
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:08,960
>> Hi.

1338
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,000
>> Council member Condo.

1339
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,400
>> Hi.

1340
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,839
>> Council member Carpenter. Hi.

1341
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:13,520
>> Council member Beckwit. Hi. Council

1342
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,079
member Michael.

1343
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:17,520
>> All right. With that said, I'll take a

1344
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,230
motion for adjournment.

1345
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:28,950
All in favor?

1346
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,000
Father, Amen.