Thanks for
this evening proposal related to
parking, standing and stopping and also
our public comment. Uh period. Welcome.
If anybody would like to uh speak if
you'd be good enough to sign in here,
» thank you. Anybody
want to speak at either?
Oh, we got Mr. Chu. Okay.
601 we'll do the public hearing.
number one total local
law amending article 11 of the city code
for the department standing and stop.
Mr. Chu you're signed for the public
hearing.
» I just had two question. Um, one is why
does the council have to first give
itself permission to put in parking
meters before it decides? Why couldn't
you just if you're going to put them in,
just put them in? And the second
question is, why do we need to keep our
3:00 a.m. to 6 a.m. prohibition against
public streets? For, for example, I want
to car my driveway now, and where am I
going to put my car?
So, thank you for questions.
>> I could probably answer questions.
>> We got a public hearing.
» Anybody else here uh for public hearing
number one, proposed local law amending
article 11 of the city code relating to
parking, standing, and stopping.
Last call. Proposed hearing number one,
proposed local law amending article 11
of the city code relating to parking,
standing, and stopping.
Hearing none, we'll close the public
hearing
and uh we could call to order, please.
» Council member to
>> present. Council member Sllan
>> here.
>> Council member Panel
>> here.
>> Member Lane
>> here.
>> Member Con here.
>> Council member Carpenter
>> here.
>> Member Beckwith present.
>> Council member Michaels
>> here. All right. Thursday.
I pledge to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
for it stands nationy
and justice for all
of them off their birthdays.
» All right. Does anybody have anything
for public comments?
Okay, hearing none. Um,
we'll go right to the uh fourth report.
» All right. Thank you. Followed up with a
constituent, the constituent who had a
question about the change with the
property tax collection and the impact
potentially on school taxes and their
collection. Um had a call actually today
from a resident concerned. I'll follow
up with DPW
about the intersection of Yong and
Louder and cars coming through there
potentially not stopping at uh the
intersection
and
>> what intersection I'm sorry.
>> Yong and Louder
Schools up the street from there on.
Young
» that's it for today. Okay.
>> Any more tubers?
>> Um, I wound up helping people on Otter
Creek because a lady called me. Uh, she
was given she was mistaken I'm sorry. I
was mistakenly identified as her alder
person instead of Mary Cla. So, I just
fielded it and I um let Mary Clair know
what was going on. People on that street
on Otter Creek were concerned about the
university having property and trees
that looked like they were going to come
down. So I called a guy named Dan at
building grounds in at Courtland. He was
wonderful. He brought a couple people
out to check it out. They decided to
come back with a horiculturist
and tree people, professional tree
people, and they determined which ones
were on whose property, what needed to
be taken down, so everybody's happy. And
he in turn asked me if I could talk to
the mayor about cleaning up trees that
are in the waterworks along the fields
um and behind
um the
I'll call the University Police.
>> Well, the police, but my family calls it
the Temple of Fitness. They're um
>> student life center. Thank you. Yeah.
>> Temple of
>> the Temple of Fitness.
>> And the mayor said on it and it'll
happen in the fall, but not before
students come back. So, that was all
good. And I texted the chief of police
about five cars that I saw parked the
wrong way on Main Street. If I have to
back in, you guys have to back in.
Somebody almost hit my husband who had
backed in and was pulling out and they
had pulled in fronts and swung out. So,
this is a this is a danger. And that's
it from the second word. Okay. All good.
Third word.
Um, you'll [clears throat] jump on this
one. Uh, attended Captain uh
Freriedman's retirement celebration as
did
>> Captain.
>> Oh, sorry. Chief.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah, he got the
>> Well, we got to get rid of him.
>> No, Chief Freeman's retirement
celebration as as did Katie. And And it
was wonderful. It was everything it
should be. Um, they've started
construction on the new dorm at the
college.
It's going to be interesting.
Um, and that's it from the board.
>> I have a board meeting on Monday, July
25th. Deputy Fire Chief Reynolds was
kind enough to come and answer some
questions from constituents as was Rich
Cunningham of Toma who presented on some
microenterprise grants and housing uh
rehabilitation programs as well. Uh
there was one question I just want to
get clarification on from the board
meeting. Bikes on Main Street, are they
allowed in the street?
Is it the same on Central? Okay, that
was my understanding. So, I will clear
that up with some folks. Um,
and
two crosswalk issues that I've not had a
chance to reach out to DBW on the
crosswalk out front of the rock crossing
to the old Portland.
That button is malfunctioning again. Um,
and there's a crosswalk uh on the 1890
house side of uh Tomkins crossing to
Prospect that also seems to be out. I
noticed that one earlier today. So, I
just want to mention those two.
>> Gets the prospect.
>> Pros. Uh, yes. Correct. And that does it
for the fiscal.
» Um, I know I was at the downtown music
series last week and Troy was there on
Friday. One of my constituents came up
to me issuing the water problem on
Hickory Park Road. Very upset again. Um,
that center lane. We've been taking this
thing down the road forever. And uh I
thought there was some money in the
springtime to get that done, but we have
to really think about getting that done
up down in that area because there's no
drainage down that area. I don't know if
we're going to put down the the pond
down there or [clears throat]
complaints.
>> Want to congratulate the city police for
uh making the arrest on the deal mural
down there.
>> Good police work done.
>> Yes. Yep. It's a sad situation where
something can't something as beautiful
as that is destroy. So
>> 14 14 acts of
>> one verse of that one. Yeah. Okay.
>> Good work.
>> Yeah.
» Just ready on Brian. I did make it to
three out of the four made music I made.
I guess Sparky and the crew. I don't
know. Can't hear them all. So, um, they
did a great job and they had nice
weather for all of them and, uh, he said
next year's hopefully be better. It's
been what, three or four years since we
had it really,
>> right? Yeah.
>> Uh, remind you again next meeting about
pork fashes coming up. It's a huge thing
I think in Brian's word.
» And then, uh, I believe they're supposed
to be ticketing people now going the
wrong way back back in the wrong way on
Maine now, right? I just want to bring
that up. So, they keep doing it. they're
going to get ahead yet. But and uh other
than that, I think that's all I had.
Thank you,
>> Michael.
>> Uh just a few things. Uh also attended
the fire chief's uh walk out uh last
Friday. Very very moving
for
have uh three code related issues. Uh
one's already been resolved. It's my
understanding. letter is going out to uh the second individual and third
individuals in Troy's ward. So I'll
catch up with Troy before I leave
tonight. See how he'd like to handle
that and uh that's all I have my report.
Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you.
Um [clears throat]
so I just address Mr. Chu's questions
real quick. Um so the um parking
committee went reviewed everything
reviewed all the items to do for the
parking and uh we change those laws we
needed to or change the fees and do
those fines we need to change how we
orchestrated our if we do fees would
have to be done through that law first.
So, cargo or the horse either way, but
we've been talking openly about both.
So, they know that that's the intent of
doing that. And as far as the 3:00 a.m.
to 6:00 p.m., I mean, with the trash
pickups, the snow falling, that's the
purpose of not allowing skew parking,
but you can always there's a website
place to get on the police website uh
police on our website and police to log
in your car. So, if you do have to pave
your seal your driveway, do it. And
certainly they use common sense. If they
see a driveway sealed there and a car is
outside, they're not going to get a
ticket anyways. And if they do, it's
certainly appealable.
>> Still call
it online. So online that site.
No, let us know.
>> Uh so a lot of good things happened. U
you know, again, I want to give Deputy
Chief Brown some kudos on a couple
things. one, you know, the walk out
ceremony, the grand staff and
organization to that was impeccable. It
was uh really deserving. I don't I don't
know that you could say it was any more
perfect than that,
>> except for it was very hot for everybody
that wasn't in the shade where we were.
>> I apologize. I think we had three people
>> kind of go down to that some very hot
sweat, right, Chief? Yes.
>> So, uh but it was very good. I
appreciate your efforts and putting that
together as well as the first responders
can't certainly if it wasn't for your
push it wouldn't happen this year. So by doing that in a very economical way
made it work for people in the How many
children did we hit?
>> Just over 250
>> and so and it was pretty impressive. And
if you listen to the kids talk or TLC
was there and Marathon ambulance was
there as well as our fleece fire uh and
the communications and the dialogues. I
heard one
kid talk about the drone operator which
was our lieutenant. I was very pleased
to be able to have a conversation and
you know parents came up to me and said
that they have always told their kids
not to talk to police officers because
that's what they were told. So I think
it broke at least that once that stigma
so there is importance to it that we
don't always get. So uh but those were
just conversations I happened to be
near. Uh so that was great. Um, you
know, we had some great celebrations.
The ADA celebration, Arts on Maine, uh,
were were all good events. Arts on, I
guess they call it now. All great great
events to have. Certainly the, uh, class
reunion was held for the first time as a group. That was highly successful.
No incidents. Same with the concert
series. They've been highly attended,
doing well. You know, last Friday we had
the concert series. We had a band at the
Brew and somebody playing at CBC. So
within a block of each other, we have
three different groups playing and
certainly was bumping downtown for sure.
So they're wearing out the crosswalk but
it's mainly um and so that's great and
certainly good things coming ahead.
Porchfest is great. You know the summer
concert series we have Molly and the
ring walls and of course the with the
porch fest after that uh as well and
that's on the 13th. But then the uh this
uh Thursday's community beach party
which starts at uh 5 and goes to 7:00
and that's just all the different u um
vendors that are there that different
people different aspects of the
community that can help and then tailor
M's playing at 7 to 9:00 and then moving
under the stars of legal at 6 8 to 10 on
the beach. So it's going to be a a fun
uh exciting month that's the first time
out uh which is great. Uh currently
working projects uh wastewater uh start
meeting with the contractors to do that
expansion project that starts Thursday.
We're going to go with that Thursday
morning. The road work started yesterday
and is continuing today. Uh um we're
working on the Randle Park bids and the
gaming park bids went out for the
engineers. They came in still working on
the demo demo for the roundhouse mill.
Trying to get some clarification with
the state on that. And um you know I
want to just have a reminder you talk
about back in parking. We've had a
couple incidents where one person was
speeding really fast at down Main
Street, uh, excessive speed, and were
able to catch them as well. But, uh, we
had another one where somebody was
speeding past and I think that's being
investigated. They went went to go
around them and it hit another car and
that was backing and drove in, hit him
into the next car. it it's happening and
uh people just need to slow down and not
think that they can just navigate those areas in uh is not not safe for
sure. Um I think
>> can you say something about kids
>> as far as it being just agreed?
>> Yes. So, um,
>> yeah, again, I think, uh, there's a
press release in everybody's packet that
was issued today by the code office. OD
office been doing a phenomenal job.
We're up to 139 of the red tags we've
taken off, um, and uh, on buildings and some we had to tear down, which this
was one of those cases, but this was a
property that was neglected for a long
time. I think Chief Liz Nichols was here
when they had all the excessive cats in
that property. wheels we refer
>> 250 cast.
So since then it's been kind of getting
in rough disrepair. So fortunately that
historic building we had to come down
and now the back property but we did
were able to get a court hearing which
is the largest fine and the best fine.
So thanks to uh Randall Lewis's work and
the code office work together to uh
drive towards making these things make
holding people accountable for their
properties as well has shown the success
and uh you know I think the port the
part about doing this release is making
people recognize that uh you know we're
going to try to clean things up and our
challenge keeps things moving forward
and that's that's what
>> yeah I guess for Tuesday that will be
through
>> that's correct. Right. Pete mentioned
park meters. So yeah,
>> once it gets approved, if we approve it,
there'll be it's all done on your ad.
There's not going to be new meters put
up this.
>> There will be striping of the streets
either.
>> And there's going to be signage and all
that.
>> Yeah.
>> I just wanted to comment that because
you did mention park. We're not
parking in.
>> All right. With that we move on to did I
answer your question? I think
>> all right. Um so we'll move on to
acceptance of the minutes that motion to
accept the minutes.
Okay.
» Any questions?
>> No comments about board reports in the
minutes.
» But no there's not. My point was to that
was there there was no actionable items
in in that in that documentation and a
lot of dis disarray and confusion. So it
best to just delete it without that
there's something specific that was
actual put it in there but all right
it's all
» okay that anybody else please
all those in favor
>> I post carried
uh resolutions agenda item number one
adopt local law number two 2026
regarding Amending article 11 the code
city of Portland related to burn
>> I'll move it
any questions discussion
please
council member to
>> I council member Silus
>> hi
>> council member panel
>> council member lane
>> hi
>> council member
>> hi
>> council member carpenter hi
>> council member beckwith
>> hi
>> council member
I
>> agenda item number two. Adopt schedule
of fees, fines, and penalties.
» Resolved that the city of Portland
schedule, excuse me, schedule of fees,
fines, and penalties. the next year too.
Uh B and the same hereby is adopted and
implemented by this common council
effective August 5th, 2026
be further resolved with any fee fund or
penalty being adjusted by said schedule
which was previously paid and covering a
period extending beyond August 5th,
202.6
shall not create an additional fee owing
here. and be further resolved that to
promote transparency and ensure
convenient public access, the city clerk
shall post that schedule on the homepage
of the city website under the prominent
heading fees and payments.
And I've got the uh URL address listed
there in the resolution as well as other
key department pages where it can be
readily found by the public and make
such schedule available in hard copy
format in all city offices.
I hear a motion.
Mr. B Michaels any questions?
>> When we do do the signage up
if we approve it should be that taken by
that call.
>> Uh no um because those barcodes
sometimes people put stickers over them
and ch them right that
>> I just I got people start sending money
to the wrong place. Well, we don't want
that to happen.
>> They text their code.
>> We'll just have to get it out there.
People aren't figuring it out. Anybody
else on the resolution?
>> I was under the impression after the
last code committee meeting, we were
going to get together one more time and
discuss would be revisions in front of
us.
>> I believe we did. That was I don't know.
But that was I think it was all signed same
as
>> I know Mr. Lewis said the document
present. So
» I talked to Roy about his concerns and
then said
>> were you in the impression we're going
to meet again or was I mistaken? I
missed a couple of those meetings, so I
could have very well missed the very
last.
I thought I thought we were also
Did you have
>> Yeah.
I thought
concerns or questions just
question. So page four through about
seven or eight uh change to the rental
certificate of compliance. Um I'm under
the impact this is what was just
instituted last year. Correct.
It was a change to the rental
correct
um the concern was raised that the
law as it was didn't uniformly treat all
landlords.
um this landlords who had and I'll use
the extreme example of the building on
Tomkins which is sorority that houses 65
young ladies um they were paying one
rate and because they were big they
received a greater discount than would
somebody who had a 12 unit apartment
building that would house the same 65
people. So, this basically treats the
people that are have a big sorority
house and the people that have
individual
one or two or four family units,
whatever they are, um the same way. So,
it it pulls those two things in line.
The other two changes that the committee
um came up with was um
if we do the it's one change, but
there's two parts to it. If we do the
inspection the first time around and if
for the three-year period the landlord
has no work orders put against their
property, meaning we don't have to go in
and mow the yard, we don't have to go in
and pick up garbage or anything like
that or clear the sidewalks. And if they
have no appearances that get sent to
court, so it doesn't mean they don't
have a violation in their inspection
because the violation could be
something, you know, pretty minor. But
if they get a notice of violation and
they cure it before it would have to go
to court, they would be allowed to renew
the next time around for 50%. of of the
renewal rate. So that's a big we they
really like the idea of providing an
incentive to landlords to keep the
properties up and stay in compliance. So
um those are really the two major
changes when it came to that component.
There's a few tweaks to some of the
other parts of the the vine. They're all
in red, but they're all pretty minor.
Um, okay. If you have any questions, I
can go over them.
>> Can you explain what what happens if
someone a landlord does have a lot of
violations, either code violations or or
quarters for this city,
>> their rental certificate of compliance
would be revoked. um at which point they
would have to appear in front of the
city's appeals panel to attempt to um
for lack of a better better word I'll
call it a plan of corrective action. Um
they would have to show how are we going
to become a better compliance property.
Um if it's a single family home and it's
has eight people living in it and that's
not workable for whatever reason, maybe
they need to reduce the occupancy. um
maybe they just got a really bad um
group of tenants and they're evicting
all of them and they want to try again
and they promise us we're going to
screen better the next time around. Um
so I mean there there's a lot of
different options that could come into
play. Um if they lose their rental
certificate, then it also loses the the
ability for the tenants to live there.
So they would also get cited with living
in a property without a rental
certificate. So it's kind of a two-way
street. And the number of people, the
number of occupants in a building is
based on New York state law.
>> New York State fire. Um, in order for a
prop to be occupied, a bed has to be a
certain number of square feet. I believe
it's 70
» 7 by 10.
>> It has to have a window. There has to be
an area.
>> And then if it's for two people, it's a
bigger square footage. three a bigger
square footage, four a bigger square
footage once you get to a certain number
of occupants. Then common areas also are
required to be of certain sizes. Um so
there's a whole matrix that the code
department goes through when they
determine what the appropriate um number
of occupants is. You can't you can't go
through one bedroom to get to the next
bedroom. So there has to be a separate
entrance from that bedroom. So the whole
list of things that they verify are
there. Can anybody be grandfathered in?
>> There's no grandfathering for that
because this is New York State Fire
Code. So, it's a health and safety code.
It's not a zoning code where it's a
prior non-conforming use. There is a
limited ability for a party to seek a
waiver from the New York State Fire. Um,
if the if the the bedroom is off by
three or five square ft or something
like that, my understanding is the state
will quite readily grant those waiverss.
If it's off by 10 or 15 square feet,
you're not going,
>> but we have no control over that. That's
up state fire whether or not they grant
a waiver. Um, I believe we may make a
recommendation on it when it goes in,
but it's really their call at the end of
the day.
>> Okay.
>> Yes.
So the part that's not changed um it
talks about the number of occupants for
four unit or less. Is it the number of
occupants that are actually there or the
number that it could possibly house
based upon state fire code or how how is
the number of occupants determined? It
it's determined on two things. one, they
fill out an application listing a number
of occupants and then when it's
inspected, it be determined whether or
not that number of occupants is um
correct. So, if you had a house with
four bedrooms in it, all of those
bedrooms may be appropriate size to put
two people in them. But if I'm a
landlord and I know I'm running to
students and they each want their own
bedroom, they don't want to share a
bedroom, I'm probably going to only ask
for four because it's cheaper than
asking for eight. So, yes, the size of
the rooms does determine the maximum
occupancy, but the landlord certainly
could ask for less, and I'm sure we do
have some landlords that do because the
preference seems to be one student per
room at this point.
Could you go over how the changes to the
rental certificate compliance, this
final version compares to the draft? We
made several revisions along the way and
uh my impression was we'd be getting a
side by side before we moved to the
vote. So I apologize if it's off on
that, but could you go through those
changes and how they compare to this
final draft?
>> Sure.
So for single unit properties, there was
no change the fee structure at all. um
for multi-unit properties, it treated
every unit as a $300 unit. So if you
take a 10unit property, um
it's
$1,900. In the past, that would have
been $3,000.
Um so if it the 19 unit compares to on
the other side to what it would be, so
that's really 37 to 40 occupants. Um
because most multi-units,
two, three bedrooms is the max. You're
not going to find a 10 unit where there
are five bedrooms. So um to kind of keep
that fair, it basically tracks the
number of occupants based on the number
of units. It's not an exact science, but
it it comes much closer into the
ballpark, and that's one of the things
the committee was concerned about. um
any litigation concerning um rental
things like this, the watch word for the
course is uniformity. Um so that was the
one thing that we wanted to make sure
that we were hitting was uniformity and
we feel this moves much closer to
uniformity. It's not exact. It never
will be, but it's it's pretty darn
close. Um
how do these the original revenue
projections, how does that compare to
the draft with the changes?
the original revenue projections were
undoubtedly overstated. Um
where it's going to come out.
It's really difficult to say um because
it's a three-year renewal process. Um
we've had some properties that we did
send letters out to that for the first
time in years and years and years we're
getting an application on. So, that's
obviously going to be an increase. Um,
other properties,
um,
you know, we we are working with the
landlords to get the inspections and
things done. Where it's actually going
to come out. Roy could probably tell you
better than I can. I don't follow that
department's budgetary numbers. Um,
I think he was expecting to come out
[clears throat]
>> right about 50 to 60% of that what was
budgeted. Yeah. Originally, I think he
was thinking 50 or a little less. I
think now it's probably 50 to 60.
Something's going to come out a little
better than expected, but not where it
was budgeted.
>> And that's as percentage of the
original. Correct. Correct.
>> And when this process went through, the
Chief Reedman requested that 50% of what
was in there as realistic numbered.
>> The biggest key, Tom, is you got you're
going to have to follow is the ones that
in the past that don't obey what rights
we're going to have to go after them. I
know we got ours all sent in or they're
due to be sent in. They're all filled
out, but
in the past people didn't do it. I don't
think we had any legal thing to go after
them for not doing it. Well, two two
things that come into play there. Um the
college has worked with us that in order
to
use your student aid for rental, it
needs to be a city approved property.
So, that's one of the things. So, if
somebody doesn't get their certificates
in, we will notify the college that that
property is out of compliance and then
they can't use their student aid to pay
their rent. Um, which does then put a
hardship on the landlord unfortunately
because they'll have to evict that
student. But, um,
>> but I'm talking about some of our
properties that are college,
>> right? College housing, it's another
issue. Um, I mean, a lot of the the
properties also receive property from
section of money through section 8. we
can contact section 8, let them know the
property is non-compliant. I can't
guarantee you section 8 will do anything
with that, but we can contact them and
let them know. Um, you know, so I mean
there there are avenues that are
available to us and they will be cited
with a notice of violation and
eventually an appearance ticket and
they'll be taken to court and any fine
that is levied by the court on these
will be relevied against the property if
the owner doesn't pay it. So eventually
the property would end up being taken
for back taxes. But I think you have the
right to do something or sexual section
8 is being a health and safety. I think
the city should be able to step in. And
if it's a health and safety issue, we if
it's precedes everything,
>> right? I mean, the property can be shut
down when the threat is imminent to
lower it.
>> The state did change that that code a
little bit to make it a little harder
for the city to do that. I mean, it has
to be a true imminent threat now. Um,
but if there is an imminent threat, I
mean, they can clear the property and
secure it. All in all, I think the
numbers are going to be substantial if
we can get everybody's compliant.
» So the numbers in red, the five units
and more goes up significantly. Uh
there's no comparison. Were these these
were changed. So were they brought down?
>> They were all lowered. They were all
lowered.
>> Basically, if you take the number of
units, it would have been times 300
under the old scheme. So under the old
system it was so if you had a 100 units
it would have been $30,000 now it's
15,000 something but that makes it
closer to apples to apples with the
large
single buildings best way I can put it
the fraternity houses sority houses and
they're the ones that are the that
you're going to find 40 people living in
a single house 60 people living in a
single house
>> Brian when they first started the fee
schedule was
>> yeah okay so that would force landlords,
you could reach out and get your own
engineer to come in and certify it. We
didn't want to do that because the fire
department's going to have to fight the
fire. We we brought it way down more
reasonable to make them take control
cuz you want the fire department to get
in there. Some of them we probably won't
be able to probably like you know we
should be able to do them all but we
need to be there and be active and
proactive I guess is the word to say to
have the fire department will come in
inspect them all. So when we talk and
>> you know it's nice to have the fire
department there the inspections but by
right as a landlord you can find your
own inspector to go in and do them
>> and a lot of times it's this this is
what you get. They never even come to
the place. We don't want that. We want
the fire department to be involved. So,
we brought the fee schedule
>> to incentivize that.
>> Yeah. Way down.
>> And we had to give the fight the
landlords a choice by law. We couldn't
just demand the facility.
>> I'm not saying someone still won't do
it, but then the ones we
>> we didn't want to condone the places
anyway. So,
>> and we did limit them to do the
inspections for a landlord to a licensed
design professional.
>> So, they can't just get somebody to walk
through it and say, "It looks good to
me." So whoever puts their signature
stand up putting their license at the
risk if they're doing the you know
taking it just not looking at the
property. So no guarantee it won't
happen right
>> but if you have a professional
engineering license for an architecture
license
>> you probably don't want to lose it.
>> So the fees are the proposed fees are
going down but the expected revenue is
up.
>> Well they're going down for what the
original proposition said like So what
is budgeted? They're they're
anticipating just based on getting the
house to all those sites. What was
budgeted was budgeted was more for a
three-year plan because everybody's on a
three-year cycle for that inspection. It
was not attainable to get it in one
year. So that was one flaw. And then the
second flaw was that. So the idea is to
they it's going to hit 50 to 60% as a
projected number of what they are. We're
not finances next meeting. Good. We'll
take a look at that next meeting.
are publicly numbered right now, but
>> well, it's something new. So,
>> yeah. I mean, all the good landlords had
no problem. What's going on? And like
you made a good point.
>> You're going to have some trouble
landlord.
>> The college kids do look at this stuff
now. Back in the old days, they didn't.
A lot of these parents wanted, hey, do
they have, you know, a certificate? They
do look at it.
>> And if they don't have it, they're not
going to let their kid go.
>> Yeah.
and knowing that they were going to site
the landlord, they don't apply, which is
because
>> that they had to have a certificate
posted next to the door. Correct.
>> Correct.
>> But I don't think I ever saw that. Well,
you put them up there, but the next time
you go there, fire escape plan, the size
of the rooms, all that's got to be
posted into
» So, I had been under the impression
perhaps I could have been more clear
with my request that we in the final
proposal would have a sidebyside
comparing it to the original. Um, I had
some concerns about the scale of the
reduction from the original proposal.
Um, I don't want to hold things up too
much. I'm happy to have conversations on
the side. Um, my concerns are specific
to the the code changes and since we'll
be getting the finances on it next week,
I think it may make more sense to hold
off on this section of it until we have
a, you know, an impact on the the
finances and vote on this next meeting.
There is no code changes in this
proposal.
>> I think he means the the RCC fees that
are changing.
>> Yes.
» So you want to vote on it
except for that section or hold the
whole thing in time next time?
>> My biggest concern is with this section
and and the impact on the finances from
it. So, I'm planning moving forward with
the rest of this meeting if that
streamlines things or that's beneficial
and just discussing this section at next
council meeting if that works for
others.
>> I'll just vote no.
>> I can do that as well. I was proposing a
compromise.
>> Yeah, maybe a compromise would be this
can always be amended. These rates are
done. We did it by resolution for that
reason, but unless there's a majority of
us to do it, there's a lot of other ones
that impact that. It's all one document.
You're getting too close to college.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I but I think I think you know to request respect your past. I think we
could have that discussion more and then
go back and just amend those if you
wanted to later.
» I'm more comfortable voting no currently
than having discussion in this feature.
>> But I would still like that.
>> I would as well. So I I do appreciate
that, Mr. Mayor. Right.
>> Anybody else?
Wait, excuse me. Page 11, the garbage
fees for the dumpster corral. Uh,
there's a number and then there's a
number in parentheses. Were these an
adjustment?
>> Those are an adjustment as well. That
does show the side by side. Um,
the anything in parentheses is what it
was before. So, if it says new, like as
you'll see underneath the graffiti
removal, the work order fees, that's
new. um if the number is in parenthesis
it in that case they went down. Um and
the reason that went down is because
when we went through the budget with the
garbage committee
the fees that were listed were not were
more than charging for the service we're
providing. And the goal was never for
garbage to be a money maker. It was to
be to cover the costs of the garbage.
And the fees just did not line up with
that. So, we went through and refigured
out the fees um
and created some more categories because
again, you were treating a restaurant
like say community the same as New York
bagel who doesn't really have anywhere
near the sit down capacity and the the
type of garbage they're creating, you
know, or the Hollywood is completely
different to a, you know, a small shop
that might only be open for breakfast or
lunch or just serve coffee or something
like staff. So, it creates two tiers of
restaurants, two tiers of retail
businesses. Um, it creates a new um
small office um and then also a
commercial one and commercial two um
rest, you know, uh category
example there. when Central obviously is
a big office,
Ed Gooler is one guy with maybe a
part-time secretary that he has. It's
not fair that they're paying the same
amount for garbage. So, it just again to
try to get that uniformity, try to keep
things fair, we created some more
categories and went through and
reallocated everything. Um, and we
looked at what it would be like once the
all of downtown is laid out with the
garbage um corral system. And this will
more than cover the cost and provide a
little bit of extra money for keeping
the fencing up to date replacing things
that need to be replaced and things like
that. Um
Chuck did a very long analysis of that
to come up with what the keep out
correct u
amounts were for that.
>> Anybody else?
Page 14, uh, parking fees,
business and residential lists a one, a
three, six month, and then 12 month.
The, and it looks like it's scaled so
that the longer the permit that you get,
the less per month that you pay,
correct? But when you look at
residential, the six month, uh, it's
sort of an anomaly. It's more than
>> math doesn't math. really expensive.
>> It's more expensive to get a six month
than to get two three month
» or to get a one month or six months.
» It is a good catch that is tight for um
you want to do math now or should we
approve and come back?
Everybody's looking at your calculator.
Yeah, I'll I'll need a couple seconds to
do some math on that.
>> Okay,
>> we'll add a new line and we'll go back.
» Thank you.
So for instance, if um if we talk to
Portland
County
and Homer and they want to chip in
um we might revisit the cost of
nonresidential swim passes right
down the road,
>> right?
>> That would be great. Yeah. I mean,
again, we hate to have to have charge
those not working. I wish we didn't have
to put that column in.
>> I know,
>> but that happened. Yeah.
>> It did.
» It's good you brought that up. That's
page 16. That is a reduction. That
corrects
>> the swim season passes family,
>> adult, child.
>> Yeah.
>> Senior, they're all going to be
decreased.
>> Yeah. Those 125 and now it's for example
family was 225 and now 100 just
unbearable for for people we went
discouraged people go away
originally
digital process was almost a punishment
it's not fair to them
>> doable
>> it should be $189
is what it is is if you do a three
threemonth path It's a 5% discount. A
six-month pass is a 10% discount. The
full year pass is a 15% discount.
>> So, six months is what?
>> Uh 6 months to 10% discount. It should
be 189 for the residential rate and then
the 12-month rate is a 15% discount. So,
it's just 5 10 15. The discount grows
the longer you do it.
>> So, are the others accurate?
>> The rest of them are all correct. Yes.
>> So, what is the amount for residential
12 month? 357 for 12 month, 189 for 6
month.
» Good math.
>> We did that. Hope people
» Anybody else? So you got that amendment?
>> Amendment. Okay. Thank you.
>> Anybody else?
Please.
Hi,
>> Council Member Silicon.
>> Hi,
>> Council Member Canelo.
>> Hi,
>> Council Member Lane.
>> Hi,
>> Council Member Calmer.
>> No,
>> Council Member Carpenter.
>> Hi,
>> Council Member Backwood.
>> Hi, Council Member Michaels.
>> Hi.
>> Agenda item number three, accept and
recognize donation for the fire
department.
Resolve that the city of Portland County
Council on behalf of Mayor Steve and the
fire department expresses its gratitude
for the generosity of the donors below.
Be it further resolved that the council
hereby accepts a donation of it below
and appropriates into the accounts and
for the purposes that's made below a
donation from James and Cassandra Lewis
now $100
um into the TE 2044 account for
automated external difficult
Hi,
>> Council Member Ser.
>> Hi,
>> Council Member Panel. Hi,
>> Council Member Lane.
>> Hi,
>> Council Member Con.
>> Hi, Council Member Carpenter. Hi,
>> Council Member Beck.
>> Hi, Council Member Michaels.
>> Hi.
>> Item number four, accept and recognize
donations to the police department.
>> Resolved that the city of Corman County
Council on behalf of Mayor Steve and the
police department expresses its
gratitude for the generosity of the
donors below. We further resolve that
common council hereby accepts the
donation listed below. donation listed
below and appropriates it to the
accounts and for the purposes
designated. Donation from Dorothy Duff
in the amount of $1,749.98
uh for the purchase of a K9 ballistic
vest for P9 Addie and it'll be deposited
to account TEO21.
>> I'll move that second.
>> No, Miss Lane.
>> Chief, we got to get Addie at maybe at
the next meeting. Can we get that to
happen so everybody can
>> Thank you very
much.
>> Council member Tob.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Sllan.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Panelloo.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Lane.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Conlin.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Carpenter.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Beckwit.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Michaels.
>> Hi.
>> Agenda item number five. Adopt policy
for review and approval of murals in the
historic district. Resolved that the
city of Coral County Council hereby
endorses and adopts the policy next tier
2 titled policy for review and approval
of murals in the historic district
effective immediately and be it further
resolved that the historic commission
city clerk and the city code and zoning
enforcement officer and then I got a
typo to correct are authorized and
directed to implement the procedure set
forth in set policy for all future mural
proposals within the historic district
>> motion senator
any questions just real quick like I
mentioned last meeting something
actually talk to Linda about that maybe
we can get their help on that building
so
>> the art commission will be discussion
involved
>> next so if somebody wants a mural on
their building they would have the
artist do a mockup and then that would
go for
>> historic
>> the the appropriate commission historic
if it's downtown or committee if it's
elsewhere.
>> Okay. And so it wouldn't come before
council at all.
Um, I think in the policy it does state
that the commission makes
recommendations for the for the council.
100 and a lot of that stuff Katy that we
don't see like the zoning the
planning department the historical
department we don't normally see unless
>> somebody's not happy with their decision
they have the right to decide we don't
see what they say we don't norally do
that we take the recommendations same
with the police commission the fire
commission
>> I I just wanted to uh double check
before I spoke uh so in terms of
approval of a mural it would not come
before the council. Um the so currently
any u certificate of appropriateness in
the historic district if somebody wants
to make a modification to the facade
um they receive a certificate of
appropriateness from the historic
commission and appeals are through the
CPA. This would um be the same appeal
process. If the commission denied a um
mural or some aspect of it, the appeal
would go to the ZBA.
>> Okay.
>> Then so this process would remain
consistent with the existing process for
facade changes.
>> Okay.
We did the other murals or Y's vision in
the bank was saying, you know, it's a
similar process passively. We need to
make it official.
>> Have to put our faith in other people's
aesthetics.
>> Okay.
>> Which you do
>> if you're RC
>> and that's the purpose of appointing the
people. Yes.
>> Anybody else? Anyone please?
>> Council member Tober. I
>> council member Silman.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Panel.
>> Hi. Council
>> member Lane.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Conway.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Carpenter.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Beckwith.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Michaels.
>> Hi.
>> Agenda item number six. Set public
hearings on proposed local laws
confirming with the agreement of the
county of Portland for the collection of
real properties tax.
>> Resolve that the following public
hearings are hereby scheduled. a public
hearing August 8th, 2026 to adopt the
local law repealing local law number one
of 20ou of 1994.
Uh this would opt out of the tax
enforcement provisions of chapter 602
of the laws of New York State of 1993.
uh effective January 1st, 2027.
Public hearing saying, all these are uh
August 18th at 6 PM. The second to
repeal article five of chapter 254
uh related to collection of delinquent
taxes.
Uh the third to amend article 21 section
six of the charter to change the date of
the mayor's budget uh submission from
October 15th to August 15th
and a public hearing to amend article 21
section 10 of the charter to change the
date that the conf council must adopt
the final city budget from December 31st
to October 31st.
All these being effect would be
effective January 1st, 2027.
Be further resolved that the above
public hearing shall be held on October
18th, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. at 25 Court
Street. Be further resolved that the
city clerks hereby authorize and
directed to publish notice of said
public hearings in the official
newspaper of the city in accordance with
applicable provisions of New York State
Law and the city charter and code of
ordinances. I think
>> I think you said October 18.
>> Did I say misspoke? It is. It should be
August.
» Second.
>> Any questions?
» Please.
>> Council member Tob.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Silicon. Hi.
>> Council member Panel.
>> Council member Lane.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Condo.
>> Hi.
>> Council member Carpenter. Hi.
>> Council member Beckwit. Hi. Council
member Michael.
>> All right. With that said, I'll take a
motion for adjournment.
All in favor?
Father, Amen.