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Mr. Patterson, you may have already seen this, but I think Councilmember Moore is on attendees instead of panelists.

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And wait a minute, there he is. You're already on top of it. Thank you.

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I'm going to check in with City Manager O'Bid to see if staff if we're ready to go tonight.

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Thank you, Mayor. We are ready to go. All right. With that then, I'd like to welcome everybody to our regular joint meeting with the County City Council and the successor agency.

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to the former Catholic community redevelopment agent for Tuesday, June 28, 2022.

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And with that, I'll jump right to number two, because we have a really full agenda tonight.

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And ask our city clerk if we could have a role in calls for this.

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Council Member Ford.

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Here.

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Council Member Moore.

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Council Member Sparks.

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Here.

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Vice Mayor Harvey.

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Here.

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Mayor Landman.

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All right, and before we move on, I've been asked the city manager if you take just a moment.

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Introduce the members of the staff we're joining us tonight.

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Bear, members of the council.

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So, myself, Damien Ovid, the manager, of course.

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We also have Michael Parrich here, our chief of police, Angela Coder, our director of administrative services.

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Craig Scott, our director of public work.

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City Engineer, Noah Houch, our Directorate's new development.

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We also have VP Harry here who is our senior planner and then John Walker, our city attorney.

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And then, last but not least, we have Kevin Patterson, our Deputy Secretary Clark, and Sherry Brown.

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And that is it, man.

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Excellent.

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Well, thank you very much.

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And next, I will ask everyone to join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag, to the flag of the United States of America, and to the public, for which it stands, one nation, on nation.

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Under God.

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Indivisible.

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Indivisible.

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With liberty and justice.

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All right.

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That brings us to item number four.

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This is an action item.

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And this is approval of the minutes and notice of waiting,

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a reading of all resolutions and ordinances introduced,

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and or adopted under this agenda.

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So I'll begin by asking first if there's any additions

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or corrections for the minutes from the council.

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Mayor, sorry, there's no minutes to tap on this item.

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That's going to make that real easy for the council to thank you.

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This was happens when we have an 880 page back.

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All right,

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so with that then we move right to item five, which is a little reading for me.

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We have some announcements tonight.

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We'll ask you to bear with me.

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And we'll begin with a meeting orientation for new attendees and viewers.

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And could form into the Brown Act and the adopted City Council rules.

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The meeting agenda includes items, labels, action items, which where the City Council will consider the item.

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Citizens are for the opportunity to write comments relevant to the item being discussed. The meeting

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agenda also includes a citizens' business item, which is the designated place in the agenda,

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where citizens have the right to say whatever they wish. The city council may, or may not,

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choose to respond to comments as the government go to laws. However, if the city council declines

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respond, it should not be perceived as giving credence to, or agreeing with any statements

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that the City Council, or its members might believe or incorrect, misinformed, or purposefully

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boxed.

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Next, measure S, of a variety of recreation programs for all ages, and the means of our

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streets, parks, and public buildings, and you can see details on the web at TOTDCD.org

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all about this. Next, Citizens and Arts and Receiving City of Catari, Community Alerts,

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via text, or email, are encouraged to sign up with Nix by downloading the Everbody

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app from the ILS or Android App Store, or simply by texting your zip code to 888777.

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And finally, like always, we'd love to hear, so please feel free to contact us at 7777.

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$7.9 to $4.600 or at info at tataticity.org.

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after normal business hours, you can still contact us at $7.7.

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$7.9.2.

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And of course, if you have an emergency,

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please do contact 911.

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And you can continue to look for updates

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of the city's website,

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and our social media channels, including Facebook,

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this ground next door. And this takes us to our next side, which is a

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proclamation. And we do have a proclamation this week, up from zero

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waste cinema, and this is an important in support of the North Bay zero

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waste week. And I will read this, and I believe we have a representative,

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I believe, Ms. Cushlawos here from zero waste to speak as well.

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So I'll

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begin by this. Proclamation of the city council of the city of

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and support of North Bay zero waste week, July 24th through 30th, 2022.

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Whereas the city of Qatar, yes, we've heard of the zero waste cinema, the ZWS, which is a joint hours of thought.

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The mission of the ZWS, his waste of urge required by state law A.B., 9.9.

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ZWS programs include hazardous household hazardous waste, composting, zero waste planning,

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policy and education, and whereas the U.S. EPA has estimated to 50% of all greenhouse gas

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emissions are caused by the extraction, the production, transportation, and use of goods

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including food, products and packaging, and that zero waste minimizes the GHD production

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and therefore supports Sonoma County's climate initiative.

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And we're asked in 2020, so no making any residents and businesses sent, 423, 648.58 tons to the landfill, generating approximately 105,000 tons of carbon dioxide.

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That was 2020.

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Equivalent from Geek Compote Composing, an organic matter, and whereas the short-mift climate

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pollutants reduction act of 2016, SB 138883, requires a 20% reduction available food waste by 2025,

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and a 40% reduction in methane levels by 2030, and whereas the jurisdictions in Sonoma County

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have a collectively adopted reachable gold or waste reduction reuse and recycle. These goals are stated

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from the Countywide Integrated Waste Management Plan,

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as well as in the Sonoma County Regional Climate Action.

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Whereas the Sonoma County Central Landfill,

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a very valuable resource worth preserving,

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as a remaining capacity of 23 years.

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And whereas, in the ways principles,

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in accordance with Cal Recycles, California Department

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of Resources, Recycling, Recovery is zero waste hierarchy.

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promotes the highest and best use of materials, emphasizing the closed loop system of production and consumption,

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and move in a logical element, increments towards the goal, a reducing waste generation and landfill disposal,

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by more than 90% through improving downstream reuse, and recycling unit of life products and materials to ensure the highest and best use.

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By pursuing upstream redesign strategies to reduce the volume and toxicity to discarded products and materials and promote less wasteful lifestyles, fostering and supporting the use of discarded products and materials to simulate and drive local economic workforce development.

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And finally, by preserving land for sustainable development and green industry infrastructure.

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And whereas, a resource recovery based economy will create as the same more productive, meaningful jobs than a disposal based economy.

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And whereas, the city of Katadi has assumed a leadership role by setting zero waste as a goal, and on September 10th, 2019 adopted a zero waste resolution that sets a goal of zero waste by 2030.

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But now, therefore, be a proclaimed on the 28th day of June 2022, by the City of

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Patence, the City Council of the City of Katari, that the City encourages the pursuit

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of zero waste.

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As a long-term goal in order to eliminate waste and pollution in the manufacturing, use

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storage and recycling materials.

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This goal can be achieved through action plans and measures to significantly reduce waste

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and pollution.

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These measures will include encouragement of residents, businesses, and agencies to judiciously

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use reuse and recycling materials and motivation of businesses to manufacture and market

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less toxic and more durable from a pair of reusable, recycled, and recyclable products.

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And now, therefore, the City Council, the City Catodied, does here by Brooklyn, July 24th

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through the 30th or 2022 Zero Waste Week.

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So with that, I will ask if our representative from Zero Ways would like to expand on that and have any words to share with us tonight.

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And welcome her.

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Thank you.

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I want to thank the City of Katati on behalf of Zero Ways Sonoma.

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This acknowledgement of the inaugural week of Zero Ways Action is meaningful and appreciated.

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Zero Ways Sonoma.

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Recology, Sonoma Marin, Saluna Outreach Solutions, Sonoma Water, UCCE, Master Food Preservers,

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and Master Compostors, the Reus Alliance, Zeroway, USA, Sonoma County Library, and Sonoma Village,

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have been working together with many other community partners to offer a full week of events

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throughout Sonoma County July 24th through the 30th. I invite all to visit zerowaysnorthbay.org to see

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the full event listing and registered for this symposium.

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Thank you.

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And thank you for taking time to be here tonight

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and for all the work you do

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and this is our other important area.

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First, check with the council and see if any of my colleagues

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have any questions or comments they'd like to make.

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And if not, then I will, since we have had a little back and forth

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and rest of our commission.

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This is not an action item, but we will open to public comment

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right after the Vice Mayor has a chance to meet the comment

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because I see her hand up.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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I just want to thank the staff at zero waste for putting together this week. I know that a lot of

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people work very hard together. This is the inaugural week and there is a lot of activities. So please check

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them out and I would also like to welcome Katherine. She's one of our newest members to the staff

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and thank you for being here and please check out all the things that we'll be going on during that week.

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Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Vice Mayor. All right, with that, if we could ask our Deputy

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City Clerk to check and see if we have any public comments on this.

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Thank you, Mayor. Speaking to our attendees tonight, if you'd like to make a public comment,

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please use the raise hand icon. If you're dialing in, dial star 9.

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Mayor Landman, that will end

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public comment. All right. Well, thank you. Well, then we're bringing it back to Council. We're moving next to our next item, which side is up? This was approval of the final agenda. This is two as an action item. So I'll just simply begin by asking the city manager if we have any changes to the agenda tonight. Thank you, Mayor. No proposed changes may. All right. Now, this is largely ministerial, but since it's listed as an action item, we will ask to see if we have any public comments.

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If anybody would like to make a public comment, please use your raise hand icon.

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Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

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Okay, then without any objections from my colleagues at the council, the final agenda is approved.

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And we can move on to item eight, which is citizen's business and public comment for consent calendar items.

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And once again, please bear with me, I have a paragraph to read to.

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Any member of the public wishing you speak to the council on any items where item listed

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on the consent calendar or any matter of matters, not listed on the agenda that are within

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the subject matter jurisdiction of the council, may do so at this time, a pursuant

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to the Brown Act, the council is not allowed to consider issues or take action in any item,

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not listed in the agenda during the spirit.

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For soon to the City Council policy, 2021-01, comments of any member of the public are normally

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restricted to a total of three minutes and length per person, for matters not on the agenda,

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and the total of three minutes per person and length per day, and all items on the consent

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counter.

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And as always, the Mayor may extend the time limit for a reasonable time where disability,

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accommodation, has been requested.

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And with that, I'll ask our Deputy City Clerk if we have any citizens' business or consent

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calendar I have comments tonight.

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Thank you, Mayor Landman.

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That's speaking to our attendees.

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If you'd like to make a public comment,

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please use your raise hand icon.

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Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

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Okay.

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So this then takes us to our consent count.

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We have nine items.

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A few.

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Excuse me.

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And I'll begin tonight by asking if any council member wishes to pull any item.

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And seeing no hands, then I will look to see if somebody would like to move

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passing this, and somebody would like to second.

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Move to approve the consent calendar.

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To be able to motion from Vice Mayor Harvey, do I have a second?

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At the second.

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And second from Council Member Ford.

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Do we have a roll call, though, please?

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Council Member Ford.

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Yes.

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Council Member More.

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Council Member Sparks.

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Vice Mayor Harvey.

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Mayor Landman.

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Yes. All right. That takes us to quite a bit. And brings us to item 10, which is direction

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on the future agenda. And I'll ask if any of my colleagues have anything they'd like

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to propose for future agenda item tonight.

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Right. I'm not saying anything. I do have something

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I'd like to bring for. As we all do, now I have gone through the city manager process

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and the item that I want to suggest is, unfortunately, a little large and little complex to

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currently fit in right now. So it will have to be added to the future to the next available budget

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or mid-year hearing, perhaps longer.

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But basically what I want to ask for us to consider tonight

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is that we revisit Katadies' mobile home park rent stabilization ordinance.

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So, very briefly, not to get deeply into it, but that currently we do have a rent-stabilization

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ordinance, which we've had for many years, and it's based on basically holding this price

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to the cost of living in a piece of San Francisco CPI, a hundred percent of it.

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But interestingly enough, I recently found that Ethan San Francisco who also has a rent-stabilization

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ordinance doesn't use a hundred percent of their CPI.

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They use 75% and this was brought to my attention by one of our colleagues in the county from the city of Sierra Rosa who's city discussed this during their housing element earlier this year and it is calling

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Calling out making the change to moving their housing ordinance to 75%

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A lot of reasons for that which but I won't get into night, but I think we should too

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many good reasons for this to support it. One reason I will, this is not my major motivation but it's worth mentioning this may also be part or useful for our housing

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level in action to protect lower cost, housing availability, so there's that as well. So at any rate, I just want to ask for that and if there's no objection and that can go back burner and I suspect by the time we see it, I will be here with you.

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I don't think Councilmember Moore will either,

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but I hope you'll take a good look at that.

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And hopefully we can do something to help help

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in this one area of contiring,

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where we have not been able to do something for some years.

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So I'm not seeing nodding heads.

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I'm not seeing any hands go up.

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I'm seeing a thumbs up that I'll see how it's good.

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You're Mr. Moore.

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I see your hand up.

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Is that a thumbs up or is there something you want to briefly say?

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Thank you, Mayor Lam, and I was just going to say

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that I would also support an agenda item on that as well.

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You're going to get, well, thank you, Council. So, so, and apologies to staff that's another one

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big, big thing put in your lap, but we'll have some serious help from Santa Rosa.

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And you certainly should have all the time necessary to deal with. So, hopefully that will work well.

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So, that brings us next to our public hearings at which we have four tonight and we'll begin with our

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first one, which is item 118. And this is a public hearing on a potential chance station

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also feel a band for the city of Pertari. So I'll ask if we could have our staff report on this

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please. Thank you, Mayor Lamon. Members of the council, my name is J. B. Harris. I'm a senior player

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with the city of Pertari.

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And tonight is...

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The agenda item 11A, begins on package page 202, and as the mayor noted, this is consideration of an ordinance that would prohibit fossil fuel sales for vehicles, otherwise known as a gas station ban.

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Next slide, please.

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Before I get into details, let me just tell you what the proposed ordinance does.

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It would prohibit new and expanded service nation infrastructure that stores, conveys and

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dispenses, fossil fuels, to vehicles.

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It would limit existing service station modifications to those that would one and prove

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soil groundwater and storm water quality, improve traffic, safety, enable battery charging

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stations and provide for other commercial uses that are not related to fossil fuels sounds,

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something like fooding and store, for example.

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Excuse me, also clarifies the approval requirements and permissible locations for battery

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charging stations, which is essentially city-wide, which we'll discuss.

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And it defines specialized terms, including an amendment to the land use title service station

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that to clarify that they are limited only to non fossil fuels sales next slide please.

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So just some by way of backgrounds and local actions that that causes us to bring this ordinance forward

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which will and importantly from 2001 to 2022 the city has been extremely assertive in its

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And it's actions and goals and strategies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and on page 270 of your packet, I have an exam at that goes through a laundry list of items like this city is undertaken.

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And I don't even think the list is complete, but it but it's a it's a good shot and and anyway, it's something to be proud of.

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And then in March 2021, Petta Luma gained pretty much international news recognition because

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of their ban on future gas stations, as far as we know, it's the first and the nation could do so.

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Following that, there is a voice, a lot of interest from a lot of other jurisdictions and

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the totality included that they also wanted to see similar proposals come before in the city council.

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And part of that resulted in an RCPA with a regional climate protection authority of Sonoma County adopted Resolution 2021-003 in September of 2021 and that recommended that the county and all incorporated jurisdictions.

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and sees processing of applications for and permitting of new gas stations or expansions

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of existing gas stations and their local jurisdictions.

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Following that meeting, during a city council discussion on community development priorities

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and commitments, the city council affirmed that they wanted to have a gas station ban

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as it was priority for the council for this fiscal year, 2021-22 and then just by just

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so that you wear others local North Bay communities, if it's a possible road of park,

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Calestoga, American Canyon, have also gone on this path of adopting gas station bands.

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Next slide, please.

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What this work has does is it targets the transportation sector, which is overwhelmingly

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the largest contributor to greenhouse gases. Right now that California has 2022 climate change

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scope plan, which is still in its draft form, is showing that transportation impacts statewide

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result in 40% of the greenhouse gas emissions.

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In Sonoma County, that rises up to 60%.

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So it's a good by far the most significant contributor

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of greenhouse gas emissions.

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And within the city of Katali, that number is even higher

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because we don't have fertilizer and livestock contributions

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and our solid waste tends to be caught up in the transportation sector.

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So, transportation is overwhelming the largest contributor of greenhouse gas emissions in the city, and is a good area to target for reductions.

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Next slide, please.

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This is where there are five, currently five service stations in Kentucky and another 11 in Rona Park.

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So there's a abundance of gas station, those arcs around it,

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show basically a five minute drive from each gas station.

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And so you could see that there's nobody that is burden by not being close to a gas station.

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we have plenty. And when you get there, the lines are not long. It's very simple to get

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cash here. It's not a problem. Next slide, please.

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Additionally, regional climate protection authority adopted in March of 2021. The climate

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mobilization strategy. This is a guidance document for the city. And it has an overall goal

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of carbon, attaining carbon neutrality by 2030.

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This is much more aggressive than the state school,

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current state goal, which is 2045.

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And then within that strategy,

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an important strategy strategy four,

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which is EV access for all partnership,

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and it includes, I think it has four real objectives,

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but two of them are really salient for tonight.

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And that is work with regional partners

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and local businesses to develop over 10,000 public and workplace charging stations in Sonoma

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County by 2027 and to the most part when developing package of local ordinances and other

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actions to address remaining permitting barriers for installing charging equipment while also

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limiting permitting of new fossil fuel infrastructure.

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This ordinance was also consistent with

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state-wide executive orders, executive order B-4818, which was signed by the governor in 2018,

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calls for 5 million zero mission vehicles on California roads by 2030, 200 hydrogen stations, 250,000

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zero mission vehicle chargers, including 10,000 direct current fast chargers by 2025.

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It's also support executive order N7920 signed by Governor Newsom in 2020 and that targets carbon neutrality by 2045 and once 100% of in-state sales of new passenger vehicles to be zero mission by 2035 and 100% of medium and heavy duty vehicles to be zero mission by 2045.

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excuse me for all operations we're feasible and 2035 for

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drainage trucks, which are just short distance trucking.

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Next slide please.

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Our general plan includes a couple elements that are important

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to this objective CI 3A, which is part of the circulation element.

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Reduce is to reduce the levels of greenhouse gas emissions created by

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automobile traffic and katati. Also conservation element includes a objective

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con to be which is to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases from city

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operations and community sources. And then also we do have a climate action plan

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which is climate action 2020 and beyond and includes two goals that are important for

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tonight which is goal 5 is encourage a shift toward lower carbon transportation

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option and go 7 which is encourage a shift toward low carbon fuels and vehicles and equipment.

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Next slide please.

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So, I'm getting into the kind of the meet.

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We don't have a definition for gas station.

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We use the term service station and this is the definition.

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I mean, service station means a retail business selling gasoline and or other more vehicle fuels and related

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products. And then we're allowed by Article 2. It can also have other businesses associated

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such as a service station or vehicle services.

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And presently, gas service stations are allowed

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with use permit approval in four different zoning districts within the city. CE, which is the

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County Avenue, C.G., which is commercial gravestone highway, St.

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Thin, commercial corridor along gravestone highway, downtown commercial, which

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is one of a smattering of about 12 separate parcels that really surround the

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name streets around La Plaza, Sloan, Charles, and William,

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about a dozen parcels that make up that. And I believe I'm not sure why they weren't incorporated

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into the downtown specific plan, but they weren't, and they remain there. And then we have

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Commerce Avenue, which is a district within the downtown specific plan. And it's only those

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businesses from El Rameshito, Great Work Commerce Avenue, starts north to the border with

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park so kind of ends up the splash car washer. So those are where service stations are currently permitted.

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Next slide, please.

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And this is an image. It's a partial map of Katati CG district.

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It's not well shown in here, but you know that's the orange side. The light pink, excuse me,

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by purple at the top is the CA district, and it's hard to see, but the pink around the

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name streets, but William, and Henry and Charles are where those CD parcels are located.

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And then of course, there's the red CE along with East Katariah,

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next slide, please.

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In addition to the zoning, there is a

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fairly decent section on the standards for service stations,

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and that includes permit and application requirements,

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the limitations on locations, site requirements, site planning standards,

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building design standards, facility operating standards,

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which kind of accessory uses our loud,

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and requirements for removal of the tanks and pumps upon a cessation of use or a change in

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use.

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And we are proposing an amendment to this section, which we'll discuss in a moment.

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Okay, next slide please.

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So the first thing that the ordinance does is that proposes

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to change the definition of service station to service station non-fal, so fuel sales

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And which means a retail business and then that provides electrical charging or fueling for vehicles, but does not include the sale or fossil fuels.

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New or expanded facilities to store conveyor dispense fossil fuels are prohibited.

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And then we highlight where allowed a service station may also include vehicle services, convenience stores and or other commercial uses, which are separately defined and regulated in the code.

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and separate lineings types.

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So, as you can see the strike out, so it's like a strike

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south, the gasoline, sales, and makes it an affirmative statement that fossil fuels are not allowed.

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Next slide, please. It also adds a large section to section 42, 180, 17.42, 180, excuse me.

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which, again, reiterates that the sale of fossil fuels for internal combustion engines is prohibited.

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And it discusses what that means and that includes pretty much all fossil fuels and gasoline, diesel, compressed natural gas.

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I ethanol, blans, propane, liquefied petroleum gas.

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And then it describes what can be done at service stations.

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So you can make modifications to improve the environment, through soil, water, storm, water, improvements.

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And in, of course, if there's any remediation that needs to be done, you can make changes to accomplish that.

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Modifications to improve traffic safety or pedestrian or any kind of vehicle and pedestrian improvements.

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And of course, if you wanted to add battery charging stations, I would be an allowable action.

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as well as we would consider changes that would incorporate commercial uses into service stations

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or other than, you know, the service station itself.

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And that would also, and they wouldn't include fossil fuels, so that's obviously next slide, please.

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Now, the other thing that does is the ordinance clarifies that charge in stations.

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There's nothing in the land use code that discusses electric vehicle charging station.

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So this just clarifies that they are allowed as a permitted accessory use in all zoning districts.

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All that's sitting.

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There's no district that would be exempt, or that would be excluded from allowing accessory charging stations.

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And that no use permit is required. The approval is discretionary. This is by state law.

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Unless there's a public health and safety matter that the building official identifies, they must be approved through a building permit, essentially.

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next slide, please. It also includes some new definitions of electric vehicle charging station

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is defined. Now I will note that this definition is in the Katari Municipal Code. It's

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actually in chapter I've come back to it. I think by 14 something, it has more of where

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the building, the building code, information is there. We've taken the same definition from

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section of the code and brought it forward into the land use code. So there's nothing new there,

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but we wanted it to be there, since it's now part of the allowable use tables,

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we need a definition, so we use the definition from chapter 14.

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And we're clarifying that

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the fuel dealer, this would be something where, you know, the propane sales, for example,

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that this is not, this ordinance is not intended to target those type of businesses,

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I'd sell propane in bulk, but it is simply limited to service stations.

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So that's a few of the other would be somebody like Nick Fale, for example.

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And with which this ordinance is not targeting, and we're just going to be clear about that.

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Next slide please.

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We brought this to the planning commission and we had the ordinance looked a little bit different than what is presented tonight and we had a really good discussion and I also had some discussions with

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ass, which is an advocacy group within Sonoma County that does want to see future gas stations

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in Sonoma County. And we worked on a few different ideas and changes to it. So the original

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ordinance had provisions for fuel and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles pretty much the public

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at spoke at the Planning Commission and the Planning Commission itself did not want to see

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the new provisions that kind of preferred that the ordinance is silent on this issue.

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There are problems that may present itself with hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and it's

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probably something we'll look at down the future. But for now, hydrogen fuel and it's just not

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a demand here. In fact, there's not a single hydrogen fuel cell facility in all of Sonoma County.

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And I believe only one in Mill Valley and Marin County, so, just not, just an exotic thing at this point.

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We had the, the originally, we were going to define staff proposed to define service station,

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with the parent medical alternative fuels only.

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The commission's preference was service station non fossil fuel cells.

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There was some nuance in this, but we understood it, and we were happy to make that change.

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And then at the same time, when we were looking at the zoning districts, where gas stations

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were allowed, or so the stations, CD just struck us, it was just an odd one because there's

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not a single parcel of those that I mentioned, that would be eligible to build the gas station

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because of the other restrictions on location, primarily location requirements.

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So our proposal was to just, well, let's just eliminate it from the CD district, since there's no feasible place for it to go anyway.

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So it's really, it was part of a cleanup.

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Now, we, that if we attempted to do, however, because of the proximity of certain commissioners,

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we couldn't get a quorum on that, so we didn't have a recommendation on that.

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And then, but I included it in the draft ordinance that originally went out when our city attorney reviewed the draft ordinance.

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Because we were, we didn't have a recommendation from the Planning Commission on this particular item and their recommendation was to remove it from the ordinance and we have.

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So the ordinance no longer includes a provision to eliminate it from the CD district.

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However, like I said before, there are no eligible parcels within the CD district.

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So it's kind of moved.

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And anyway, they unanimously adopted resolution,

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and number PC 2022-7 which is on package 2014 which recommended approval of this

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ordinance city council approval of this ordinance with the changes that I've highlighted here.

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And next slide please. And so the staff recommendation is a city council adoption of the

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proposed ordinance to provide provisions for electric will vehicle charging and to prohibit

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new or expanded service station facilities that store convey or dispense fossil fuels to

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be a close.

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And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions and hear any comments or changes like

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you'd like.

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Well, thank you very much.

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I'll take this to the council, and see who'd like to do with questions.

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And I see a hand from council number four as well as council members parts.

439
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Thanks, Nalan. Thanks, JP, for the presentation and for all the work on this. A couple of questions.

440
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:15,660
Do we have any any parcels that have still valid use permits that aren't currently operating as a column gas stations?

441
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,760
Should I actually just write away there?

442
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:23,360
Yeah.

443
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,240
Okay.

444
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Is that okay, Nalan?

445
00:51:26,980 --> 00:51:27,860
It would be fine.

446
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:38,240
The only one, and I've done some research into it as part of a zoning research we get for the sale, but the splash car wash,

447
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:44,540
right at the northern end of Commerce Avenue, used to have fuel pumps. Those were removed.

448
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,820
I want to say, 2018, I believe they were removed and that sites under remediation currently.

449
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,100
And reviewing it, I didn't find a use permit.

450
00:51:56,340 --> 00:51:58,900
I could find a lot of stuff related to the car wash.

451
00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:03,920
And I suspect that it's because that use was prior,

452
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,640
it was existed prior to the city being incorporated.

453
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:14,900
So I'm just trying to get at the question of whether there are any sites

454
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:19,460
that might claim they had existing fuel services and could reactivate

455
00:52:19,460 --> 00:52:22,920
without being banned by this.

456
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:26,060
So maybe that would count as expanded,

457
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:29,660
expanded use or something like that that would be banned.

458
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:35,020
Yeah, well, as far as I know, I mean that would be the only one

459
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:37,000
that's really of any kind of question.

460
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,100
But again, those pumps have been removed.

461
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:45,480
Our ordinance doesn't include provisions if you stop fuel sales

462
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,420
for a certain amount of time that you cannot reinstall that.

463
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:54,880
Now, with that would be something that we would have to look at carefully, because it may

464
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,080
conflict with certain laws regarding the rights that are granted when you receive a

465
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,780
use permit.

466
00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:04,240
But if there's any, that would be the one.

467
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,460
The other ones are long, it's English.

468
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:07,440
OK.

469
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,120
Thanks.

470
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:14,520
And one other question about the definition of the EV charging station.

471
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,520
I know you just pulled that forward from the building code.

472
00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:22,120
But it specifies plug-in electric vehicle

473
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,360
and I'm curious about why there are other potential charging mechanisms

474
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,140
besides the plug and I'm wondering if there's a reason

475
00:53:30,140 --> 00:53:32,120
to limit to plug-in electric vehicles.

476
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:36,300
No, there are drive-over chargers and things like that

477
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:37,280
that have sort of been developed.

478
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:42,160
Yeah, no, there was no specific reason for it to be that way.

479
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:57,380
And the right, I did just carry it forward and it was not not realizing that there might be another way to charge like a drive and is that of like a battery replacement mechanism.

480
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:05,940
No, no, there are some mechanisms that are actually used by some mass transit where it's it's like it's a big version of wireless phone charters.

481
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:07,940
No, there's no plug that there's

482
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:16,580
Anyway, but you can consider that for a few circling up if if any of those technologies come down the line

483
00:54:16,580 --> 00:54:21,540
We'll just review the words plug in I think thanks. Yeah, I don't think I don't know if that came forward

484
00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:23,500
I don't think I think you'd see us

485
00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:24,740
You know

486
00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:30,360
Unless it was something really unusual. We've been approved as if if we're any other electric vehicle charging

487
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,240
Yeah, thanks

488
00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:39,570
All right, thank you, Mr. Ford, cast some of your sparks, your next followed by Vice Mayor Harvey.

489
00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:48,030
Thank you, and it came up in some questions I'd asked to Mr. Harris earlier that

490
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:54,810
we do have two gas stations currently in the north gateway district.

491
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:58,950
So there are two stations that are sort of in non-conforming use right now.

492
00:54:58,950 --> 00:55:07,990
So my question is, how would this apply to them in terms of if it's a point in the future if they wanted to

493
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:15,850
to install charging stations and whatnot? Would they be prohibited from doing that?

494
00:55:15,930 --> 00:55:23,030
Because the new service station on fossil fuel categories not unallow use in that district?

495
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:30,830
So there are two service stations located in Northern Gayway, as you mentioned, that are legal

496
00:55:30,830 --> 00:55:31,750
non-conforming.

497
00:55:34,570 --> 00:55:39,470
If you would always have to look at the application, but let's just take, for example,

498
00:55:40,110 --> 00:55:44,830
one of these stations, if they wanted to pull out a pump and replace it with electric vehicle

499
00:55:44,830 --> 00:55:48,930
charging station, we would absolutely go, you know, allow for that.

500
00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:51,890
if they wanted to install vehicle charging stations

501
00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:53,830
at any of their parking spaces,

502
00:55:54,050 --> 00:55:57,170
we would absolutely approve that kind of change.

503
00:55:57,730 --> 00:56:01,150
If they were proposing to really expand the use itself,

504
00:56:01,850 --> 00:56:05,570
then that would require much more rigorous examination

505
00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:08,850
on are they expanding and aren't conforming use?

506
00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:14,630
So if they prevent them from expansions in land area,

507
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:30,730
But not that would prevent them from, you know, making improvements to their facility, making modifications to their facility, maintaining their facility, as long as it's consistent with what the items that I presented earlier.

508
00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:37,670
But if it just makes sure Anderson Creek, if they, if they wanted to rip out all their gas pumps.

509
00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:45,450
Just put in a huge array of vehicle charging stations that was larger than the gas pumps had been.

510
00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:50,050
We would sort of have to take a real close look at that, is that what you're saying?

511
00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:51,130
Since it's not.

512
00:56:51,350 --> 00:56:55,390
Well, I think if it were, I don't let no of these obviously shut up to also jump in.

513
00:56:55,390 --> 00:56:58,790
But if it weren't expanding the area that it's using now,

514
00:56:58,790 --> 00:57:02,290
I think that would be absolutely fine with us, you know?

515
00:57:02,970 --> 00:57:05,510
Okay, what's that approval happening at the,

516
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:06,130
at the step level?

517
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:09,430
No, probably not, because there'd be,

518
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:10,870
you'd be talking about,

519
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:14,450
and need to be careful if you're just adding,

520
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:19,680
just adding certain stations to like the existing parking areas,

521
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:22,570
that by law, by state law,

522
00:57:22,650 --> 00:57:24,250
those are ministerial approvals.

523
00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:27,590
If you're talking about like tearing down the whole facility

524
00:57:27,590 --> 00:57:41,050
And you know rebuilding something that's within the kind of the same area, then that has to go to planning commission because we don't at staff don't have the authority to approve that for the through design review. So that would have to go to planning commission.

525
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:43,030
Okay, thank you.

526
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:48,460
Vice Mayor Harvey, I believe you have some questions.

527
00:57:49,580 --> 00:57:50,660
Yes, I do.

528
00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:59,080
I just want some clarification on the wording in the proposed ordinance.

529
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:11,260
It's a service station on fossil fuel sales means a retail business that provides electrical charging or fueling for vehicles, but does not include the sale of fossil fuels.

530
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:27,040
My question is, does that not negate every station that we have and all of a sudden if we approve this, they all of a sudden can no longer sell these fossil fuels as a tomorrow?

531
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:35,460
No, they, any, any station now can continue with its operation.

532
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:43,640
So it, it, it basically, that particular aspect of their business becomes a legal non-conforming

533
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,520
situation.

534
00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:49,180
Either they were, yeah, hopefully that answered it.

535
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:49,600
Okay.

536
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:57,620
So, so we are not shutting down every gas station in the city by those words.

537
00:58:57,620 --> 00:59:06,740
No, we're not. Okay, because the way it reads it sounds like that certainly not the attention. No, it's it's it's

538
00:59:06,740 --> 00:59:13,580
It's not understand that there's no new or expanded facilities, but it doesn't exactly say that

539
00:59:13,580 --> 00:59:20,860
Yeah, it doesn't say that and that's that's what what concerned me is well,

540
00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:30,580
later on it says that it would be one of like the package page 206, for example,

541
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:40,680
where you see B1, this is kind of a section that will discuss what's here, it falls within the section for service station.

542
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:54,740
Okay. And if we want to do some work-triking, I'm happy to. But it says one, just right there, new facilities and expansions of existing facilities that store conveyor dispense fossil fuels shall not be permitted.

543
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,980
Okay. There's nothing that says they can't do that.

544
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:15,300
We couldn't do that anyway. They have vested rights to continue with their use, unless we took actions through a hearings and do process to change that.

545
01:00:15,620 --> 01:00:27,920
Okay. That was just my concern, the way that was worded. It didn't imply that it was only new ones. It just basically said all.

546
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:35,980
I would think of it something similar, I don't think it says all middle and expansion.

547
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,900
Well, it changes the definition of service station.

548
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:49,420
And so if what these people have is a use permit as a service station, we've changed the meaning.

549
01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:57,440
does that. That was my only concern is, you know, all of a sudden, you know, we have zero because we,

550
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:06,020
we don't, well, it's, that's not the intent. I believe I, unless you have some recommended wording, I believe it works.

551
01:01:07,140 --> 01:01:15,900
And we don't have the ability to do that. Okay, as long as Mr. Bakker, who is our attorney who is, you know,

552
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:23,620
in these things, things that that will protect the ones that are already there and the intention

553
01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:29,060
is for new ones, then I'll be okay with that. I mean, he is our legal expertise on that.

554
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,940
So I would defer to him.

555
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Yeah, I just just Mr. Mayor, just to clarify. I did review the ordinance. I originally had the same concern

556
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:48,080
and I reviewed it and comfortable that it only applies to new uses and expanses of existing

557
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:48,460
uses.

558
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,180
So, I'm comfortable that it won't create any issues with existing users.

559
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:53,040
Okay.

560
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,700
If you're comfortable, I'm comfortable.

561
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,820
Then my second question has to do with this whole thing around the CD.

562
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,100
You were able to find a map.

563
01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:04,000
I could not find a map.

564
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:09,660
I was digging around in the municode and what I did find is the definition.

565
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:23,060
for CD and in the definition in 17.20.030B it really it defines CD there but it talks about CD being

566
01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:38,060
all the way from page street down old redwood highway north to highway 101 so your map that you

567
01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:40,540
that are in the municode?

568
01:02:42,020 --> 01:02:45,360
Well, we do have the zoning map, which is the official map.

569
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:49,220
And now you're highlighting probably something that we need to do,

570
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,200
go in and amend the municipal code to be consistent with the zoning map,

571
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,180
which is adopted.

572
01:02:56,820 --> 01:03:00,060
The zoning map is not included in the municipal code.

573
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,000
It's a separate document.

574
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:07,000
And you can find it on our website within the community development area.

575
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,960
That's probably the best place to get in the course.

576
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:12,200
We have maps in the offices.

577
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:13,180
Right, right.

578
01:03:13,260 --> 01:03:13,760
And I couldn't.

579
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,240
That was a beautiful map that you showed in your presentations.

580
01:03:16,540 --> 01:03:17,520
So thank you for that.

581
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,080
So I think then as far as CD is concerned,

582
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,800
I think that we need to address the wording in 1720.

583
01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:27,640
0.03.

584
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:34,040
Because it definitely does not match the picture that you showed.

585
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:40,540
where can I recommend that we do that as a separate action? Sure. Absolutely. I just wanted to

586
01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:45,600
to point that out because when I went kind of looking for this what I was concerned about

587
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:52,920
were the two the two stations that reside on Old Redwood Highway. All of a sudden we were

588
01:03:52,920 --> 01:04:00,380
basically closing them down because they were in what the words say are the CD. Thank you for

589
01:04:00,380 --> 01:04:07,120
morning there. Okay, then that's all all my questions for right now. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Vice

590
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:16,060
Mayor. Councilmember Moore. Here, Mayor Lamon. Thank you, Mr. Harris. I have a question, can we elaborate a

591
01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:22,920
little bit more on why we are not allowing for the hydrogen fuel cells at stations?

592
01:04:29,780 --> 01:04:30,360
We're not

593
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:36,960
later. We did include some provisions for it. There was just that, you know, that would be an allowable use.

594
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:47,620
There was a concern that we were trying to do where we were completing things that we wanted to promote with actions that we were just rather than targeting the fossil fuels.

595
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:56,200
There is also a concern that we would be encouraging hydrogen fuel fueling in the area and that might promote the wrong type of vehicles.

596
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:18,540
Also, hydrogen fuel is sourced from fossil fuels almost entirely, it is sourced from natural gas which wasn't consistent with what members of con gas and some of the other members of the public wanted to see at least be vocal about it.

597
01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:25,000
So the recommendation was to just be silent with respect to hydrogen fuel cell.

598
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,700
And that's the reason is right there.

599
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:37,540
So you're indicating an hydrogen fuel cell vehicles can contribute to the greenhouse gas,

600
01:05:37,540 --> 01:05:44,180
in terms of the source. The vehicles themselves are zero emission vehicles. They use hydrogen

601
01:05:44,180 --> 01:05:56,020
fuel cells to power in an electric motor. But the generation of the hydrogen is almost always

602
01:05:56,020 --> 01:06:04,300
comes from natural gas. There are ways to produce hydrogen, but not without doing that,

603
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,720
you can crack water for example, but that's not done at the commercial scale.

604
01:06:11,860 --> 01:06:18,020
Okay, I guess it can be readjust on the road of that becomes the concern and I hope those facilities.

605
01:06:18,220 --> 01:06:26,700
Yeah, I think that was why we were willing to let it go at staff level was because it's just not a pressing issue for us right now.

606
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:41,020
We included it because there's really only two zero types of zero mission vehicles in commercial production, which are hydrogen fuel cell, very, very, very small percentage and then electric battery charge vehicles.

607
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,500
Thank you.

608
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:47,080
All right, thank you, Councilor Moore.

609
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,600
I'm not seeing the hands up right now, so I will close that.

610
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,600
I'll remind the council once again,

611
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,780
I am stuck running this meeting through a phone

612
01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:59,160
because my city device Wi-Fi is divided not to play with us tonight.

613
01:06:59,380 --> 01:07:01,620
It perhaps felt that the agenda was too long.

614
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:02,800
I just don't know.

615
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,240
So then you're there with me, and if you need to speak,

616
01:07:05,260 --> 01:07:08,320
and I can't see you, please feel free to speak up.

617
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,120
And with that, since we've done our round of questions,

618
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,100
I'd like to now open the public hearing

619
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:16,000
and ask the city clerk to open it to comments from the public.

620
01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:22,050
Thank you, Mayor Landman, speaking to our attendees if you would like to make a public comment,

621
01:07:22,310 --> 01:07:26,950
please use your raise hand icon. Jenny Blaker, please go ahead.

622
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:39,560
So good evening. I'm the co-coordinator of the coalition opposing new

623
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:45,900
gas stations, Kongas and a resident of Katari, and I'd like to thank the staff,

624
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:52,560
J.P. Harris particularly for doing so much detailed research and the fantastic presentation.

625
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,360
My co-coordinator Woody Hastings, I hope he's going to speak because he is much

626
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,980
from knowledgeable about hydrogen and the reasons why that was not included.

627
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:09,260
I think this is a fabulous ordinance, and I would just urge you, encourage you, I hope,

628
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,420
that you will pass it exactly as it is with no changes.

629
01:08:13,420 --> 01:08:20,900
there was a lot of discussion about details at the planning commission level and I think a lot of the

630
01:08:20,900 --> 01:08:29,180
questions and concerns got, got ironed out then and there are so many good reasons to

631
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:36,280
say no more new gas stations and yeah it's only about the new ones and existing ones expanding

632
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:43,180
and this wouldn't impact existing ones at all. Just just want to say a couple of things that

633
01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:52,320
mentioned was the pollution that gas station caused in terms of air pollution. They always

634
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:58,320
leak. There's always problems with leaks and spill, getting into waterways, and we do have

635
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:04,520
the abandoned gas station site at the northern end of Katari, which I think began to be cleaned

636
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:11,520
up in 1989, and I think that was finished in last year. I mean, it's a long time, and the danger

637
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:17,120
of that one was something to do with water leaking into the, sorry gasoline drinking, leaking

638
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:24,280
into the drinking water. So there are other reasons apart from the climate crisis to do this

639
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:33,340
and in addition, people worldwide are impacted by fossil fuels, wherever there's drilling and

640
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:39,220
pipelines and processing and transportation almost always affecting people of color and low

641
01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:47,020
and communities and indigenous people disproportionately. So that's another reason why we think it would

642
01:09:47,020 --> 01:09:54,860
be good to start banning new ones and the existing ones will continue as long as they're

643
01:09:54,860 --> 01:10:00,340
the need for them. Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak and please do a

644
01:10:00,340 --> 01:10:03,900
proof of the ordinance exactly as it stands. Thank you very much.

645
01:10:08,350 --> 01:10:10,990
Laurie Ann Barber, please go ahead.

646
01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:17,760
Hi, thank you, Laurie Ann Barber, resident of Katati.

647
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,720
I want to thank the city for taking up this issue

648
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,180
and thanks to the staff for all the work on this.

649
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,080
I'm strongly in favor of this ban on new gas

650
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,380
or fossil fossil fuel infrastructure in Katati.

651
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,900
Gas stations are soon to be actually a bad business

652
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,620
investment because cars are mandated to be electric

653
01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:44,880
by in California by 2035 so we wouldn't really want to encourage businesses that weren't going to do well.

654
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:50,940
And we don't need any more gas stations in Cotati right now as already stated there's plenty of

655
01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:56,000
access and nobody really waits in line to buy gas unless maybe you go to Costco.

656
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:03,340
It's important for our city to join the other cities in Sonoma County in creating the future that we want

657
01:11:03,340 --> 01:11:05,220
with less greenhouse gas emissions.

658
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:09,060
As Janie mentioned, gas stations are polluting and hazardous,

659
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,900
as a Katati citizen, I would not be in favor of adding

660
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:14,580
any more toxic infrastructure.

661
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:18,920
So I support this ban, and I appreciate this as a way

662
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,660
for Katati to meet our climate goals,

663
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:23,960
and set an example for other jurisdictions

664
01:11:24,540 --> 01:11:27,460
and really just to help out the climate crisis in general.

665
01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:30,720
So again, I'm in support of this ordinance,

666
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,200
and I thank you for your time.

667
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:42,190
Richard J. Sanghaas, please go ahead.

668
01:11:43,130 --> 01:11:49,990
Hello. I'm speaking in favor of this van as well. I think that we are in the transition

669
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:56,650
times and this is a very appropriate step forward as we move through without it being a radical

670
01:11:57,270 --> 01:12:04,490
change. Others have spoken to many of the issues, but I think that the idea of a suitable transition

671
01:12:04,490 --> 01:12:07,970
is worth mentioning as we go through it.

672
01:12:08,270 --> 01:12:15,210
I have seen also times when businesses have failed and as we just heard somebody was saying

673
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:19,390
maybe it's not a good investment but sometimes people don't realize that and I would hate

674
01:12:19,390 --> 01:12:30,770
to see a bankrupt business or one that is closed being tried to help mitigate what's left behind.

675
01:12:30,770 --> 01:12:35,530
So I would strongly encourage us to move in this direction.

676
01:12:36,170 --> 01:12:38,210
I appreciate all the work that so many people have done.

677
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:44,070
I think there's been a lot of legwork, a lot of real collaboration here,

678
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:45,990
so I don't think that this is hasty at all.

679
01:12:46,130 --> 01:12:51,370
I think that it's, you know, most of the considerations that would come in,

680
01:12:51,530 --> 01:12:55,890
have been addressed. So once again, I support the ban. Thank you.

681
01:13:01,190 --> 01:13:03,210
Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

682
01:13:03,950 --> 01:13:17,290
very good. Thank you. Without I will close the public hearing and bring it back to council and see if I have any discussion from any council members and I see a hand up from council member Ford please go ahead.

683
01:13:17,770 --> 01:13:33,050
Just a quick discussion on that CD district issue. I'm in favor of not removing it as a permitted use in the CD. Just because the definition of service station no longer includes fossil fuel.

684
01:13:33,930 --> 01:13:39,010
sales and so that it's not clear to me that the same sites are going to be appropriate

685
01:13:40,330 --> 01:13:45,610
for electrical charging as we're appropriate for dispensing gasoline.

686
01:13:46,430 --> 01:13:50,450
And given that it only applies to a few few parcels.

687
01:13:50,570 --> 01:13:55,770
I don't see a reason to remove it as an allowed use in that district right now.

688
01:13:56,650 --> 01:14:01,050
So I favor approving as the Planning Commission recommended it.

689
01:14:01,770 --> 01:14:03,390
All right, thank you.

690
01:14:03,610 --> 01:14:07,670
I'll ask the rest of my colleagues if anybody else has any comments for us for motion.

691
01:14:08,410 --> 01:14:13,570
Nothing in the hands jump up. I'll just quickly say it is amazing sometimes how quickly

692
01:14:13,570 --> 01:14:17,750
preconceptions that we've had for generations, frankly.

693
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:20,410
For years, all our lives perhaps to just fall away.

694
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:26,510
You know, this whole thing began by Luma and my understanding from the people involved in this.

695
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:30,210
The original concept isn't even what we're finally looking at tonight.

696
01:14:30,210 --> 01:14:35,570
the idea was that they were dealing with a problematic application for gas station down there

697
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:41,090
and then trying to deal with it one of the best directions appeared to be just flat out

698
01:14:41,090 --> 01:14:46,350
looking at could we be on all the gas stations and that's I think when the realization came

699
01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:52,790
upon wait a minute actually we have plenty of service station infrastructure we are very well served and

700
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:59,410
that was like a bolt from the blue so that's something of interest to me uh very quickly here we are

701
01:14:59,570 --> 01:14:59,970
less than a year ago.

702
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:15,200
We'll probably talk more about that later. But before I ask for a motion, I would like to give credit to Council member Ford for being the first among us to very quickly recognize the value and the appropriateness of this and bring it to the council.

703
01:15:15,940 --> 01:15:25,160
And with that, if there's no other discussion, actually, if I'm going to ask for somebody to move the introduction of the ordinance, I'd like to ask Council member Ford if he'd be willing to do that.

704
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,380
I'd be happy to, Maryland, and thanks. I would move to

705
01:15:29,380 --> 01:15:31,340
introduced ordinance to prohibited new and expanded

706
01:15:31,340 --> 01:15:33,560
service station facilities that store can pay or

707
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,800
dispense fossil fuels. All right. So now the suspense continues.

708
01:15:38,020 --> 01:15:40,620
Do we have a second for that? I would like to second the

709
01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:43,800
solution. All right. So second from Council Member

710
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:48,220
Sparks who kept your composure to nicely done. So we have a first

711
01:15:48,220 --> 01:15:50,680
in the second we have a rule called good things tonight.

712
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,520
Council Member Ford.

713
01:15:53,620 --> 01:15:56,000
Yes. Council Member Moore.

714
01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:59,520
I. Council Member Sparks.

715
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:02,740
Yes.

716
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,940
Vice Mayor Harvey. Yes. Mayor Landman.

717
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,520
And that's a yes for me too.

718
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,100
So this motion carries unanimously.

719
01:16:14,020 --> 01:16:17,160
So we'll see when this comes back. Thank you staff for that.

720
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:20,100
And when we move on, we have yet another public hearing.

721
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:25,100
This is item B under public hearings, and this is a public hearing for our lighting and landscape assessment,

722
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,840
to prove reporting authorized assessments.

723
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,060
And so I'll ask if we can have our staff report for that, please.

724
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:34,560
Sure.

725
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:36,040
Mayor, members of the council.

726
01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:39,360
This is Craig Scott, City Engineer, Public Works Director.

727
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:45,740
We conduct this process annually.

728
01:16:45,740 --> 01:17:04,580
Back in 1989 to 2003, the city created 10 landscape and lighting assessment districts as a way of recuperating costs to maintain the landscaping and streetlights for development.

729
01:17:04,580 --> 01:17:18,200
So that is done as part of the lighting and landscaping act of 1972, which does require us to go through a very strict annual process.

730
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:21,720
This is the third visit to council for this year.

731
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:28,360
The first was in January for this year and it was to designate the engineer.

732
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,940
the city and turn myself as the engineer of Frederick to prepare the report and to go ahead

733
01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:41,760
and authorize the preparation of the report. In May, the draft report was presented to council,

734
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:50,680
and a resolution of intent to levied the assessment was made, as well as setting the public

735
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,300
hearing for today.

736
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:58,380
And this meeting has been duly noticed, and we're in good.

737
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,940
Everything's lined up to go ahead and receive the,

738
01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:06,540
the finalized report and levee the assessments through the

739
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:12,060
resolution and after following that staff go ahead and prepare the

740
01:18:12,060 --> 01:18:15,540
assessment role and submit it to the county assessor's office.

741
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:19,470
Next slide please.

742
01:18:21,610 --> 01:18:32,470
in the next slide. So these are the 10 zones. It was originally formed as 10 separate districts,

743
01:18:32,830 --> 01:18:40,650
which each required their separate resolution, which became pretty mundane. Some on the council

744
01:18:40,650 --> 01:18:50,450
could attest to. And so I think it's four years ago now. We decided we saw a way with the landscape

745
01:18:50,450 --> 01:18:57,390
and lighting assessment district code to combine those districts and to a single district with each

746
01:18:57,390 --> 01:19:04,130
original district retaining its original qualities of characteristics, but as zones within that district.

747
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:11,210
We've got Valparizo, which was the one originally in 1989, and then all the way to 2003 when all

748
01:19:11,210 --> 01:19:17,910
minakers was formed. And you'll see the Aztrists on the last four zones there. That means that

749
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:30,590
The city got a little bit better at doing this along the way and realized that the cost of utilities and labor and so forth, which I'll let over time because of inflation.

750
01:19:31,570 --> 01:19:39,190
And so those have the ability to be adjusted each year by the San Francisco construction cost index.

751
01:19:40,650 --> 01:19:42,450
Next slide please.

752
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:53,960
Here's a map just showing where these zones are. It also kind of gives you an idea of the relative size.

753
01:19:53,960 --> 01:20:05,300
We've got zones from that have a small little as 14 houses on it to zones with 70 homes within this assessment district.

754
01:20:05,300 --> 01:20:07,720
What do you need to zone?

755
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:09,100
Next slide please.

756
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:19,300
There's a couple slides here that summarized the, you know, what we're doing.

757
01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:21,140
Excuse me if it's your zone.

758
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,200
This one basically says, hey, we do routine maintenance.

759
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:30,140
Okay, we keep up the, the, the, the streetscape.

760
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,040
And make sure we replace broken bulbs, burdened that bulbs.

761
01:20:34,860 --> 01:20:41,160
And so this led highlights, hey, what can we do that's like a little bit beyond that?

762
01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:52,060
And so this past year on Zone 2, there's been a long standing issue with a couple of pretty large redwood trays,

763
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,640
breaking up the sidewalk and causing tripping hazards.

764
01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:00,320
If you remember we had a barricade there for over a year, if not a year and a half or two years,

765
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:04,020
because the sidewalk was that broken up.

766
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,580
And so we did get to that this past year.

767
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,380
And one of the trees had to be removed,

768
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,000
but we did, we're able to salvage the tree

769
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,080
that's on the corner of the Gary way and Murdoch.

770
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,160
Both sections of sidewalk were demolished and replaced.

771
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:28,980
And so that is now safe for pedestrians to go through there.

772
01:21:28,980 --> 01:21:33,000
And we did involve the residents in that zone.

773
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:41,940
We had a couple community meetings to see what our options were and let everybody know what we were considering that this needed to be addressed.

774
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:45,420
Zone eight, Park Meadows, that's McGinnis Circle.

775
01:21:46,420 --> 01:21:55,860
Remember, three or four years ago, we put in lights, one is shown in the picture there along the trails, the pathways.

776
01:21:55,860 --> 01:21:59,500
And so that was funded by the assessment district.

777
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,060
We've built up the revenue since the reserve balance,

778
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,500
since then, and we're ready for another capital project.

779
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,060
And that is in the attachment sea of the report.

780
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,960
And it's also in our multi-year capital plan that you'll be hearing.

781
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:19,220
That's wrapped into the budget later on in a presentation.

782
01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:24,620
And yes, it's funded by assessment district.

783
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:44,640
And because it's a capital project that belongs in that multi-year city capital plan, we have prepared the design and put it out the bid and we've selected a contractor for that.

784
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:52,440
This is the project that's combined with pocket park pathways, but we'll keep the expenses going to

785
01:22:52,440 --> 01:23:00,780
the correct accounts. And if for the landscape and lighting assessment district there's the

786
01:23:00,780 --> 01:23:09,140
the pathway with asphalt that's very bumpy and broken up and split and cracked that goes from

787
01:23:09,140 --> 01:23:12,660
against to Marshway, and then also from

788
01:23:12,660 --> 01:23:16,680
McGinis to the Laguna Bridge, and there's going to be a

789
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,580
con-form there, and the pathway we've got the plan for

790
01:23:21,580 --> 01:23:25,020
decomposed granite, which is what we're seeing around town

791
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:28,600
across the street from City Hall, West School Street.

792
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:29,760
You just put in that type.

793
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,540
It's kind of binder in it, so it keeps it very much

794
01:23:32,540 --> 01:23:36,500
together, and it's holding up well, and other applications

795
01:23:36,500 --> 01:23:47,700
around the city and it's providing a real sense of place when folks are walking around town

796
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:54,440
and say, oh, you know, here's a similar looking pathway, very pleasing to the eye. So we're

797
01:23:54,440 --> 01:24:04,440
looking to put that in and then center away, we did some repairs to the irrigation system and

798
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:10,740
moved to fall in three. It was windy one day in a branch fell off and so that tree had to be removed and replaced.

799
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:20,320
And I'll speak to this later. It sounds like a trivial thing, but when the East assessment districts only collect about $1,000 a year.

800
01:24:20,620 --> 01:24:29,780
And they built up revenue reserves of maybe $1300 and you're saying, oh, that's 100% of our annual assessment. That's a lot of money.

801
01:24:29,780 --> 01:24:35,740
It could get pretty much zeroed out when one brand falls off tree,

802
01:24:36,580 --> 01:24:39,660
or irrigation system needs to be repaired.

803
01:24:42,180 --> 01:24:44,500
And then finally, zone 10, Altman anchors.

804
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,580
So there's a section of street escape.

805
01:24:49,060 --> 01:24:51,940
If you go along the redwood highway, just help the burl,

806
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,440
down the east side.

807
01:24:55,660 --> 01:25:03,480
That streetscape was installed back in 2003 and nothing but just routine maintenance was done to that.

808
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:13,180
So you'll see Tadard weed barrier there in some shrubbery that's looking diseased or dying.

809
01:25:13,180 --> 01:25:21,220
So we're looking to replace that, take out the mulch and the irrigation and that tattered

810
01:25:21,220 --> 01:25:29,840
weed barrier and replace that, the vegetation, do new plantings there.

811
01:25:30,460 --> 01:25:30,960
Next slide,

812
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:33,240
please.

813
01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:33,840
Okay.

814
01:25:34,540 --> 01:25:40,840
First of a couple of summary slides with the numbers in them.

815
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:50,400
So this one shows the three columns there with the numbers, the 21, 22 is the assessment that was

816
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:58,160
assessed this past year. Okay, and you'll notice for the first six zones, they stay the same.

817
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,040
All three of those numbers across the columns are the same.

818
01:26:01,340 --> 01:26:06,880
Because again, we did not build in that inflation adjustment factor to those zones.

819
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:16,200
So, I mean, what really makes that point is back in 1989, we sort of cost it out.

820
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:23,580
Hey, this is what it costs to maintain the pay for water and streetlights, bulbs and everything else.

821
01:26:23,980 --> 01:26:32,560
And over 30 years later, those costs have gone up and yet our assessment has stayed the same for those zones.

822
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:39,420
Their middle column is a current maximum assessment, and so that applies to the last four

823
01:26:39,420 --> 01:26:40,060
zones.

824
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:48,980
The construction cost index is taken from the zones inception to January 1, 2022, multiplied

825
01:26:48,980 --> 01:26:54,940
by that original assessment, and that's the annual assessment we can charge without a

826
01:26:54,940 --> 01:27:05,040
us up so we can hold this public hearing and go ahead and assess that charge and we choose

827
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:13,600
not to do that. So the final column of numbers there you can see are a bit below the maximum

828
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:23,220
and you will assess that we are allowed to assess and we increase that we kind of look at that

829
01:27:23,220 --> 01:27:28,340
And increased that relative to what the year over year CCIS.

830
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:32,220
And for this past year, it was 9th point 2%.

831
01:27:32,980 --> 01:27:35,360
So pick your jaws off the floor.

832
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,120
Quite a bit of a jump this year in inflation.

833
01:27:43,340 --> 01:27:45,200
Realizing that that's a high number,

834
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,440
we went ahead and rushed it down and capped it at 5%.

835
01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:58,580
percent for zone 7 and 8. We have an operational deficit for zone 9 to tear away. So we bumped

836
01:27:58,580 --> 01:28:06,070
that up to about 7 percent. Well, not about we're proposing 7 percent. And zone 10 is actually

837
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:15,240
increasing its reserves by about $3 to $5,000 a year. It's building its very healthy zone.

838
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:25,140
And so I met twice with the HOA there and listened to what their concerns were and we came

839
01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:33,980
to sort of an understanding that a 5% reduction of their assessment was made sense and we

840
01:28:33,980 --> 01:28:41,420
went a step further and said a reserve target of $20,000 made sense as well because we're

841
01:28:41,420 --> 01:28:48,540
quotes for we're doing that landscaping and they're coming in at 20, 25,000 dollars. And so

842
01:28:48,540 --> 01:28:54,620
that's only needed every, well ideally, we wouldn't be waiting 12 years, we'd do it every

843
01:28:54,620 --> 01:28:58,720
five or six years or so. Next slide, please.

844
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,740
Okay, so we looked at assessments and what they're

845
01:29:06,740 --> 01:29:13,680
the relative increase of assessments each year. This is the the running balance of the reserves

846
01:29:13,940 --> 01:29:23,610
And so again, this is the concept is it's a, it's a safety valve for anything that might

847
01:29:23,610 --> 01:29:31,910
go wrong in this zone where we would like to just kind of continue to march along each

848
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:43,050
year with a fairly predictable, continual expense of maintenance that things happen, right?

849
01:29:43,050 --> 01:29:43,870
fall down.

850
01:29:46,150 --> 01:29:57,870
So, the ones that are in the low one or two thousands, they're one instance away from

851
01:29:57,870 --> 01:29:59,970
just zeroing out those results.

852
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:19,380
So, I wouldn't give too much weight to, you know, like a 300 percent, 317 percent larger than reserve or annual revenue for zone one, for example, because 7600 dollars doesn't go far with capital projects.

853
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:35,620
And then all of these zones, I have a summary slide on sort of a status update, but kind of a state of the zone, if you will, for these,

854
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:50,520
but the ones that kind of stand out as being kind of on life support are zone two, which currently has a, that's what the footnote is addressing.

855
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:58,260
And it's loan, it's general fund loan balance is now approaching $50,000.

856
01:31:00,980 --> 01:31:11,840
So it goes, it has an operational deficit where, it's like $300,000 a year, it goes into

857
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:17,800
the red just for maintaining the, the streetscape along Mertal Avenue there.

858
01:31:19,060 --> 01:31:24,500
The other one I wanted to point out here and I'll repeat this again on the other slide

859
01:31:24,500 --> 01:31:25,400
to center away.

860
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:33,680
It has that operational deficit and so there's time for us to correct that and one of

861
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,860
the steps there was increasing the assessment by 7% this year.

862
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,580
That's not going to do it.

863
01:31:39,580 --> 01:31:43,460
I think we're going to need several years of increases

864
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,920
to get back to level off, level off.

865
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,880
All the minakers, like I said, they're pretty healthy.

866
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,020
They're really healthy.

867
01:31:52,220 --> 01:31:54,840
They've got $36,000 reserve balance.

868
01:31:55,460 --> 01:31:59,020
And that was something like $30,000 last year.

869
01:31:59,260 --> 01:32:00,420
And so it keeps building.

870
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,620
It's dropping down a 9,000 because we're

871
01:32:03,620 --> 01:32:07,220
planning to do those improvements along with Redwood Highway.

872
01:32:07,980 --> 01:32:09,580
All right, next slide please.

873
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:17,040
Okay, this is that sort of state of the zones slide, which is new this year.

874
01:32:17,300 --> 01:32:18,700
I thought it would be helpful.

875
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:30,960
It was on one, we're just we're just looking at minimal maintenance, minimal reserves. It's just kind of homes along doing its thing, looking, keeping it looking nice.

876
01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:38,680
So, in two, is the one on life support, and we've got the $50,000

877
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,020
fund loan. We fixed the sidewalks and tripping has, or

878
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:48,340
hopefully we don't. We don't foresee not unwed any more

879
01:32:48,340 --> 01:32:53,860
improvements needed for that zone. Those sidewalks were, I think,

880
01:32:53,980 --> 01:33:00,940
the last one we had the maintenance a few years back of all

881
01:33:00,940 --> 01:33:04,140
and remolves to end the re-did the irrigation

882
01:33:04,700 --> 01:33:06,540
like five or six years ago,

883
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,780
and then this one came along with fixing the sidewalks.

884
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:16,060
But I think it barely has enough revenue each year

885
01:33:16,060 --> 01:33:19,940
just to pay for their water, the water they use.

886
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:24,140
Zone three, four and five,

887
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,580
we're looking at same as zone one,

888
01:33:27,260 --> 01:33:29,700
we're just to keep minimal maintenance going on

889
01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:31,020
and minimal reserves,

890
01:33:33,660 --> 01:33:36,680
and even with that minimal level of effort,

891
01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:40,160
the reserves are not building, they stay pretty constant.

892
01:33:44,230 --> 01:33:48,910
Six and seven, we've got the revenues are pretty stable,

893
01:33:49,010 --> 01:33:53,810
so I think we're starting to look at revenue in those zones

894
01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:59,870
that could support some revitalization refurbishment

895
01:33:59,870 --> 01:34:11,670
of those zones. Eight that is park medists. And so that text there describes repeats what

896
01:34:11,670 --> 01:34:20,490
I just said about the project we do those pathways and decompose granite. And those

897
01:34:20,490 --> 01:34:26,870
costs will be not all of those projects fall entirely within that zone. So some of it

898
01:34:26,870 --> 01:34:31,650
will be coming from the general fund, but that portion

899
01:34:31,650 --> 01:34:34,110
that's within the zone will be paid by that assessment,

900
01:34:37,570 --> 01:34:40,170
So 9 is the center of way.

901
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:45,090
And it's been the reserves of being dropping.

902
01:34:48,350 --> 01:34:51,290
And so it looks to be depleted in the next two,

903
01:34:51,290 --> 01:34:52,470
I think, two years.

904
01:34:52,930 --> 01:34:54,470
It's going to put a zero.

905
01:34:55,470 --> 01:34:58,650
And to combat that, I'm

906
01:34:58,650 --> 01:35:24,430
looking at, I have solicited quotes for getting landscape services to switch to landscape provider services to see if they'll be a break given there because we just got another we got an update from our current provider saying, hey, you know, we're increasing your rates because of our increased costs.

907
01:35:24,430 --> 01:35:33,130
So staying the course on that zone is not going to be the way to go.

908
01:35:33,230 --> 01:35:35,870
Just keeps this, it makes this picture worse.

909
01:35:36,850 --> 01:35:42,430
Hopefully we can get somebody that's a little more economical for us.

910
01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:47,890
And then, zone 10, same thing.

911
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:51,390
There's own reserve as approaching $40,000.

912
01:35:51,390 --> 01:35:56,230
We're getting quotes to refurbish their streets king.

913
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:09,100
The last line there is just to sort of give a window to people into art thinking and how we approach these annual reports.

914
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:17,280
It's a check-in process on the health of each of these zones financially and in the appearance of course.

915
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:28,580
But each time we do this every year, we see upward pressures on utility costs, contractor costs, energy costs, everything's creeping up.

916
01:36:28,820 --> 01:36:43,420
You know, we put like a 5% inflation factor in there and sure enough that's it gets that's what the actual expenses turn out to be between 4 or 5 or 6% every year.

917
01:36:43,420 --> 01:36:54,160
So, that's making it really challenging to continue to have healthy, healthy zone balances.

918
01:36:56,260 --> 01:36:58,980
One thing when silver lining, when good piece of news,

919
01:37:01,260 --> 01:37:05,320
is I've gotten a lot of help from the administrative services department,

920
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:13,820
and a couple years ago the accounting system was revamped and with a push of a button we get

921
01:37:13,820 --> 01:37:21,740
these summary reports on all of these expenses in these specific categories and so it takes

922
01:37:21,740 --> 01:37:28,680
takes me about two hours to update those tables in the report and so our costs have gone being

923
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:35,600
half just from last year to this year. We don't have this year's yet but the last years in the

924
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:43,440
prior years, it went down by half. So it was instead of $10,000 in the administrative cost that's

925
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:51,980
just tributed amongst the 10 zones, went to $5,000 and we hope that we can keep it at that low level.

926
01:37:51,980 --> 01:37:57,670
All right, so that's the presentation.

927
01:37:57,670 --> 01:38:04,250
The next slide is summary of recommendation, which is to go ahead and adopt the resolution,

928
01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:11,650
which approves the engineer's report confirming the assessment diagram in diagrams and

929
01:38:11,650 --> 01:38:21,250
annual assessment amounts in loving and collection of annual assessments for the city of

930
01:38:21,250 --> 01:38:27,870
person to the landscape and lighting act of 1972. So with that I'd be happy to respond

931
01:38:27,870 --> 01:38:32,670
any questions you may have. Well that's a perfect time to ask the Council. If

932
01:38:32,670 --> 01:38:37,250
anybody has any questions for Mr Scott and I see Hans from Vice Mayor Harvey

933
01:38:37,250 --> 01:38:43,930
and Council Member Sparks on the order please. Thanks for the report Craig.

934
01:38:47,020 --> 01:38:47,540
I

935
01:38:47,540 --> 01:38:58,320
feel like a broken record here, but on quail hollow, number two zone, the assessments that

936
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:04,840
we collect are only about $1,200 and the expenses are about $3600 and they already owe

937
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:11,360
us money and I feel like for the last four or five years we keep saying we need to do something

938
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:19,260
about it, this is only going to get worse and pretty soon, it's ultimately going to be, you know,

939
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:29,980
$100,000. They are never going to get, you know, out of this, if we don't do something. And I know I

940
01:39:29,980 --> 01:39:38,300
ask every year, but we seem to be reluctant to address that with them, but we cannot continue

941
01:39:38,300 --> 01:39:50,820
at this pace where we're paying, you know, double what their assessment is, in addition to all of these other unforeseen things.

942
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,520
So do you have a plan for that?

943
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:09,100
I think that was, the writing was on the wall when we initiated this back to 1989 or 1990s and failed to put in the escalation factor.

944
01:40:11,940 --> 01:40:23,200
The, it's very unlikely that the residents are going to vote to approve a, including the escalation factor.

945
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:29,260
I think I think we don't have, our, our options are really limited.

946
01:40:29,940 --> 01:40:33,400
That I think that's why you're seeing this come back year after year,

947
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:39,140
with how it being resolved, I don't think we have any options here.

948
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:47,640
I would like us to look at options because I really don't think that it's really very fair

949
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:54,040
to all of the rest of the districts, nor the rest of the citizens within the community,

950
01:40:54,040 --> 01:41:05,040
to keep having to, you know, have this fun being owed to us grow the way it's growing.

951
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,120
At, you know, at some point, you know, do we just stop maintaining it?

952
01:41:11,580 --> 01:41:20,040
Or, you know, it just, it just doesn't seem, it doesn't seem quite right the way it is exponentially growing

953
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,160
and that there's nothing that can be done.

954
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:30,120
So I just would like to see something done about that.

955
01:41:33,570 --> 01:41:34,670
And I do appreciate,

956
01:41:34,850 --> 01:41:36,950
because I have been around long enough

957
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:39,650
that we don't have to do these one, my one, my one.

958
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:42,630
So I do appreciate that you've combined those.

959
01:41:43,070 --> 01:41:44,590
So thank you for that.

960
01:41:44,730 --> 01:41:46,150
We appreciate it too.

961
01:41:46,750 --> 01:41:50,110
I bet that was really painful to go through these

962
01:41:50,110 --> 01:41:53,030
and adopt these resolutions and read them each one.

963
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:55,250
So thank you for that. So thank you, Mayor.

964
01:41:56,350 --> 01:41:57,830
Thank you, council members parts.

965
01:41:58,430 --> 01:42:01,450
Thank you. I have two questions. The first one is related to

966
01:42:01,450 --> 01:42:08,510
to Vice Mayor Harvey's comments. A question. I'm curious to know how how do we fund

967
01:42:08,510 --> 01:42:13,570
maintenance on the landscape on the rest of Murdoch road on the other side of the road and then

968
01:42:13,570 --> 01:42:17,590
down farther to the east. That's not part of that district.

969
01:42:19,820 --> 01:42:21,260
That's my first question.

970
01:42:21,260 --> 01:42:23,820
I'll take him one at a time if that's okay.

971
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:27,080
Here's so.

972
01:42:27,980 --> 01:42:30,820
Looking at that diagram, there is a zone seven.

973
01:42:31,820 --> 01:42:33,100
That's on the other side.

974
01:42:35,860 --> 01:42:37,060
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

975
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,800
You've got zone two, which we're talking about,

976
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:40,900
and zone four.

977
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,360
Maintains has some streetscape along mortal.

978
01:42:45,420 --> 01:42:47,480
If you look at the overall diagram.

979
01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:58,520
And then on, but you're talking about the north side of Murdoch and the city maintains that.

980
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,260
There's a number of streetscapes around the city.

981
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:08,560
And this is a big question I get and when I go out and meet with these assessment district,

982
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:15,900
H.O.A. is, you know, how come some streetscapes were maintained by the city and some were

983
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:16,900
in assessment districts?

984
01:43:19,540 --> 01:43:25,680
So, is that just luck of the job when they were built, whether we had started with this

985
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,660
assessment district program at the time that the development is constructed?

986
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:30,620
It is.

987
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:36,380
I think it took cities a little while to realize that every time they built a house, it was

988
01:43:36,380 --> 01:43:47,160
that loss in their budget, because it cost more to maintain that new infrastructure than

989
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:53,260
they were getting from property tax revenue, so that's when the landscape and lighting

990
01:43:53,260 --> 01:44:00,800
assessment district got developed. And it kind of was, you know, this is the order of development

991
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:11,860
that came about from 1989 to 2003 and then that progression continued when or five years ago

992
01:44:11,860 --> 01:44:20,940
we used another mechanism which is the community financial district CFDs and so we've got

993
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:28,080
the whole city is now in a CFD so that would be anytime a need of development comes along

994
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:32,020
they have to get, we condition them to annex into the CFD.

995
01:44:32,900 --> 01:44:38,740
So it's continuing, you know, the theme is, the city's trying to make itself

996
01:44:38,740 --> 01:44:42,600
whole when new infrastructure comes along.

997
01:44:43,060 --> 01:44:49,120
I could see why the residents would be not too excited to vote on increasing their

998
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:53,220
assessment when their neighbors across the other side of Murdoine, paying anything for

999
01:44:53,220 --> 01:44:54,840
the same service.

1000
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:59,380
I have a second question, totally unrelated.

1001
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,980
I'm looking at his own tent, the olden acres where there's going to be the plan of streetscape improvements. I know it's a very small stretch of road, but I'm wondering if there's room there to try to do some pollinator friendly monarch butterfly friendly plantings. When we do that, and maybe I don't know if the HOA there are the members of that district or would be open to something like that, but I think it would be great to have

1002
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:33,360
some better monarch have a title on the side of it?

1003
01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:35,060
We'll bread one.

1004
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:44,020
I think how I would present that to the group is have a, have the quote, have that being

1005
01:45:44,020 --> 01:45:52,450
or a question additional alternate on the bid and depending, there would be very responsive

1006
01:45:52,450 --> 01:45:56,530
to what the price increase would be.

1007
01:45:56,770 --> 01:45:56,990
Okay.

1008
01:45:56,990 --> 01:46:09,210
I think if it was a wash, and it would just be a switch out of plants, there would be a lot more receptive of it, but if it was a cost increase, then I would think it would be a thumbs down.

1009
01:46:10,590 --> 01:46:18,930
But if we're just walking out plants, that might have, I'd be willing to put that into the proposal request.

1010
01:46:18,930 --> 01:46:21,430
Great, thank you so much.

1011
01:46:22,190 --> 01:46:23,150
Thank you, Councilmember Sparks.

1012
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:25,430
Councilmember Ford, go ahead.

1013
01:46:26,290 --> 01:46:27,110
Sorry, thanks, ma'am.

1014
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:31,230
That's the last thing that Greg said raised a question for me.

1015
01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:35,930
So when you say they would be responsive to the cost.

1016
01:46:36,810 --> 01:46:39,530
So I'm curious about the mechanism and who controls this money.

1017
01:46:39,710 --> 01:46:43,910
I thought this was an assessment and then the city uses that money to do the maintenance work.

1018
01:46:44,430 --> 01:46:48,910
But your implying that HOA has some role in spending the money.

1019
01:46:52,610 --> 01:47:16,450
It's we involve the HOA in, you know, we kind of consult, well, we involve them in the decisions, not that it's, you have it right in that the city is ultimately the one that manages how is kind of the referee on how it gets spent.

1020
01:47:16,450 --> 01:47:23,430
like we have to have a landscape that's consistent with what is initially described in the

1021
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:32,330
originating documents. But I think it's common courtesy to touch base with the HOA's and let

1022
01:47:32,330 --> 01:47:38,650
them know what our plans are and how sensitive they are for doing it this year next year or

1023
01:47:38,650 --> 01:47:45,350
following year and kind of with what the implications are to them on the assessment.

1024
01:47:45,890 --> 01:47:53,130
So it's a conferring common courtesy type of interaction we have with them.

1025
01:47:53,550 --> 01:47:54,510
Yeah, I'm comfortable with that.

1026
01:47:54,710 --> 01:48:01,030
That's a little different than the process you sort of outline like in response to council members,

1027
01:48:01,030 --> 01:48:07,430
parks suggestions. So I just think there are, um, there are a lot of general plan policies

1028
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:12,270
that have to do with landscape and all in air friendly. And we had a discussion a few

1029
01:48:12,270 --> 01:48:17,610
meetings ago about, you know, becoming on, we didn't, we didn't act on it at that time. So

1030
01:48:17,610 --> 01:48:22,330
this isn't actual policy or anything. But, but the things changed over the years. And so to

1031
01:48:22,330 --> 01:48:26,510
say we need to install the same landscape there was there in 1989, doesn't make sense either.

1032
01:48:26,510 --> 01:48:33,690
So I'm comfortable with a consultation but not with not with an application at the HOA gets to decide what plans go in.

1033
01:48:35,050 --> 01:48:35,190
Thanks.

1034
01:48:36,210 --> 01:48:36,510
Okay.

1035
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:37,590
Thank you.

1036
01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:38,350
All right.

1037
01:48:38,570 --> 01:48:39,670
I'm saying I'm looking more time.

1038
01:48:39,810 --> 01:48:41,290
I'm not seeing a hand from anybody else.

1039
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:42,690
I have no questions at the moment.

1040
01:48:42,710 --> 01:48:44,610
I think I'll have a comment when we come back.

1041
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:46,150
But since we've got two questions,

1042
01:48:46,410 --> 01:48:48,730
but I'd like to do next is open up the public hearing.

1043
01:48:48,830 --> 01:48:50,770
And see if we have any comments from members of the public.

1044
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:53,790
Thank you, Mayor Landvin.

1045
01:48:53,790 --> 01:48:58,370
Speaking to our attendees, if you'd like to make a public comment, please use your raise hand icon.

1046
01:49:05,340 --> 01:49:07,200
Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

1047
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:10,880
All right, we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the council.

1048
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:18,740
See if we have any disperse or discussion before we look to emotion, anybody have anything they would like to add or say about it.

1049
01:49:18,860 --> 01:49:20,420
It's going once going twice.

1050
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,600
Yeah, I have to admit I have some thoughts on this.

1051
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:33,160
have kind of like my colleague, Vice Mayor Harvey, worried about this issue for years.

1052
01:49:33,380 --> 01:49:38,940
We were in a difficult position of being underfooted in the city and having some assessment

1053
01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:41,760
districts that didn't have eskulatory clauses built in.

1054
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:46,680
No rowing costs and as the cost of everything else went forward, it put us in a bind.

1055
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:54,760
But we are at least for now in a different place, I think we really have to just make these

1056
01:49:54,760 --> 01:50:01,900
If we can't get people to vote in the majority and I think that's just incredibly of likely and hardly worth a trouble.

1057
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:08,760
I think we just have to say that's the cost of doing business and treat in the city maintained.

1058
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:18,280
It's a legacy that we are stuck with because of past action that wasn't adequate for long-term cost

1059
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:19,760
and I think we have to live with that.

1060
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:23,760
And as I look at it, I have some cover in saying that because as I hear the associated

1061
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:29,820
costs while they're not insignificant amounts of money, as far as what we do as a city

1062
01:50:29,820 --> 01:50:36,120
on a regular basis with most studies and plans and consultants, it's pretty minimal sounding.

1063
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:41,420
And I think the concept of just going on is we've gone on the past with this, which is

1064
01:50:41,420 --> 01:50:46,220
resulted in some areas to look, frankly, in my personal opinion, and I've brought this

1065
01:50:46,220 --> 01:50:51,420
before. Not very good. And even if people are paying not that much in the tax roll,

1066
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,840
they're still paying an tax roll for an assessment district, and they look by and all

1067
01:50:54,840 --> 01:51:01,540
they see as a lot of dead plants generally in some kind of thread bear canbark. That's not

1068
01:51:01,540 --> 01:51:07,160
the type of city I think that staff wants to have continuity, and I don't think the electives want

1069
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:14,760
to see that either. I mean, I just pictureing the idea of driving by some nice planings on

1070
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:22,560
And actually during this time of year, seeing some monarch butterflies, that's the type of city I'd like the thought to be able to move to gain.

1071
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:30,700
And I think as long as it's a cost that's for now when I believe these largely would be my direction to the future.

1072
01:51:31,220 --> 01:51:34,960
Not tonight, but to the future would be that's where we should go.

1073
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:42,300
We need to invite you to sit down and take a look. What does it need to run all of these correctly, including the ones that can't fund themselves?

1074
01:51:42,300 --> 01:51:46,800
How do we define what's a good level, what's an unspeakable level?

1075
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:51,260
We need that, we need to do that, and then I think we need to just budget and plan for it.

1076
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,960
If there wasn't my last meeting, I would, this would probably by now since we could have this discussion

1077
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:57,540
for years.

1078
01:51:57,780 --> 01:52:04,280
I think I'd be voting no on the assessment of the public hearing, but since I'm seeing this

1079
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,860
change happening, I'm hearing these discussions to the council, I'm happy to support it tonight.

1080
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:10,200
But anyway, I wanted to make the comment.

1081
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,720
I think that's the direction we should go in the future.

1082
01:52:14,220 --> 01:52:16,500
So I see a hand from Vice Mayor Hardin.

1083
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:19,020
Thank you, Mayor.

1084
01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:23,940
I guess I would like a little bit more clarification on that.

1085
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,660
And it really has to do with expectations.

1086
01:52:28,100 --> 01:52:31,260
So these assessment districts are set up

1087
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:35,660
and that it's contractual and there's expectations.

1088
01:52:35,660 --> 01:52:45,960
The example mayor that you're giving given is more philosophical about how we would like our community to look.

1089
01:52:46,420 --> 01:52:50,820
And I agree with you, we want our community to look nice.

1090
01:52:52,000 --> 01:53:00,940
But my concern is that if we have a contractual relationship with these districts and all of a sudden,

1091
01:53:00,940 --> 01:53:12,620
we're having to pay for the expectations that are within these contracts, then that doesn't

1092
01:53:12,620 --> 01:53:23,140
give us any leeway to work within our means that we may or may not have in a given stretch of

1093
01:53:24,580 --> 01:53:47,220
So I'd like Mr. Spot to speak to that, is this something where where we need to get rid of some of these districts, and then it's really as we can afford to make these changes versus the expectations that are in these contracts.

1094
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:59,800
Well, I kind of had a reaction to the mayor's statement of voting against this because this process needs to be followed.

1095
01:54:00,020 --> 01:54:05,740
I think we all understand that to make these assessments.

1096
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:13,000
And so there's about $50,000 total amongst the 10 zones.

1097
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:19,580
And so if we don't follow this process every year to the letter, then we get zero.

1098
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:25,480
So I just wanted to make sure everybody understood that.

1099
01:54:25,540 --> 01:54:30,080
Your question is what council member Harvey,

1100
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,820
these are contractual relationships we have.

1101
01:54:38,540 --> 01:54:43,120
You would like us to look to see what our

1102
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:55,200
options are to re-opening the contracts and I guess I'm not exactly sure what's being asked.

1103
01:54:55,900 --> 01:55:03,100
It's the, I could also, sorry, but I could also add that.

1104
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:11,680
I think it's a good option to have in the future what are, you know, what are our expectations for these landscape districts I think.

1105
01:55:13,140 --> 01:55:20,580
I would not, of course, recommend dissolving any, just because even if they're partly contributing

1106
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:25,940
to the costs, because they're still contributing something to defer that, you know, what

1107
01:55:25,940 --> 01:55:32,100
we'd otherwise be spending in the general fund, but I mean, you are right that there's, you

1108
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:37,260
know, that there's an expectation if you provide any money at all there's an expectation

1109
01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:45,340
of service and where we were before measure s is we had you know we let them go because we couldn't

1110
01:55:45,340 --> 01:55:51,960
be couldn't spend any more than we were bringing in for obvious reasons but the conversation I think

1111
01:55:51,960 --> 01:56:00,380
now is do we want to you know knowingly maintain them sort of as a city landscape and just take the

1112
01:56:00,380 --> 01:56:06,080
assessment as a subsidy to the general fund that we put into it, to maintain it at all of

1113
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:12,720
us at a common maintenance, common level of maintenance. I think if you maintain it at a common

1114
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,700
level of maintenance, you're not going to probably have the complaints that we would get all the

1115
01:56:16,700 --> 01:56:23,160
time from the people that we're seeing those landscapes deteriorate, obviously. But, you know,

1116
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:29,240
comes with the recognition that we would have these substances with the general fund. Right. So

1117
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:37,100
I think it's a, I guess really what I'm, you know, just to kind of summarize, I would, you know,

1118
01:56:37,380 --> 01:56:41,340
to your question, I would not recommend dissolving the landscape districts just because,

1119
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:45,200
even though they may not cover all the cost they do cover some of the costs, which is helpful.

1120
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:52,980
And, you know, what level of uniform maintenance we want to take for all the landscape areas are, I think,

1121
01:56:52,980 --> 01:56:56,660
Maybe a good conversation for the future, if we want to.

1122
01:56:56,900 --> 01:57:00,840
And then we can knowingly go into this beyond just District 2,

1123
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:02,620
which is obviously a psychoneca.

1124
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,140
Well, then I think that that's what I'd like us to look into

1125
01:57:07,140 --> 01:57:09,120
because who are we fooling?

1126
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,640
They owe us $50,000.

1127
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:12,920
They're never going to pay it.

1128
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,120
They can't even pay for the lighting and water.

1129
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:22,880
So to have this report and act like they're ever going to pay us back,

1130
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:35,100
it seems false to me. So we have to, it's not working and we have to do something different

1131
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:42,300
rather than keep ratcheting up that number. And what that different approach is, you know,

1132
01:57:42,820 --> 01:57:52,400
I let staff decide what that is. But this, this is embarrassing, if you will, to have that number

1133
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:58,620
ratchet up year after year after year, knowing that it's never going to come down. And I do

1134
01:57:58,620 --> 01:58:06,680
agree with the mayor that yes, we want the city to look properly, but let's be honest about

1135
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:14,140
where those funds are coming from and what the expectations are. And that's really that that area

1136
01:58:14,140 --> 01:58:21,140
has to know what the expectations are and we have to come to grips with how it is we're going to

1137
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:27,240
work with them. And that's really what I'm asking, because this is a working.

1138
01:58:29,420 --> 01:58:40,140
It's my party. Yeah. Yeah, you know, we're approaching this in different directions, but I think there's a lot you said that we agree with the problem we see in front of this. And I want to be clear if I wasn't.

1139
01:58:40,140 --> 01:58:46,860
I wasn't saying that I would vote no, or and I certainly wasn't trying to encourage my colleagues to vote no on this tonight as some sort of protest.

1140
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:54,640
I was merely indicating that if this was to go on as business is usual for years to come,

1141
01:58:54,960 --> 01:59:00,500
I would be getting to that point and I think I'm trying to approach this logically

1142
01:59:00,500 --> 01:59:03,060
from work the facts on the ground.

1143
01:59:04,420 --> 01:59:05,380
We have a bad contract.

1144
01:59:05,420 --> 01:59:07,660
We have several bad contracts and there are a fault.

1145
01:59:08,140 --> 01:59:12,020
We should have known better, we should have known that these needed to be rolling costs and

1146
01:59:12,020 --> 01:59:16,840
we didn't and that's our fault and the only way out of it would be to get

1147
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:21,740
That's most of the people that live there to vote in a majority to increase that tax.

1148
01:59:22,380 --> 01:59:24,960
And I think just knowing people, that's understandably unlikely.

1149
01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:29,700
And particularly, because many of these areas, the landscapes have been underserved for some

1150
01:59:29,700 --> 01:59:30,040
years.

1151
01:59:30,620 --> 01:59:33,680
I think our possibility of getting a majority to vote for that a very slim.

1152
01:59:34,420 --> 01:59:38,080
If that was a direction the council wanted to go in the future, it might be worth the effort.

1153
01:59:39,420 --> 01:59:42,460
But assuming that doesn't work, you only have one other option.

1154
01:59:42,460 --> 01:59:47,760
You either just do the landscapes, right, and accept that as the cost of doing business is something

1155
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:54,220
is expected from cities in a deep, right across the street and murder, something the city does or you let it totally go to ruin.

1156
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,840
And if economically we had to do that, we'll gosh that would be an easy choice because there's other services.

1157
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,980
You do that are more important, but if we're not in that position, then I think we should be looking

1158
02:00:04,980 --> 02:00:10,340
at what's the best way of doing this. So I've mentioned my comments as perhaps just a

1159
02:00:10,340 --> 02:00:15,560
future discussion. Perhaps the next time we start our budgetary planning to take a look at this,

1160
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:21,300
decide what is the level of service, what is the look, the best fit we want for this community,

1161
02:00:21,660 --> 02:00:28,260
and how do we provide it and just plan to do it in focus less in which ones are bad contacts

1162
02:00:28,260 --> 02:00:34,460
and which ones are appropriate ones at overall in costs and just accept the past to take care

1163
02:00:34,460 --> 02:00:37,820
of the city as necessary as possible. So for giving my last year and being able to weigh in

1164
02:00:37,820 --> 02:00:41,980
in this and it's something I've wanted to see improved for years. So sorry to take you all down

1165
02:00:41,980 --> 02:00:46,420
around with all. So anyway, I'm going to look one more time because anybody else has any comments

1166
02:00:46,420 --> 02:00:53,380
they'd like to share. I'm not seeing any hands go up in the list. So with that, I will see if we have

1167
02:00:53,380 --> 02:00:58,440
anybody that would like to move, adopting the resolution for approving the annual engineer's

1168
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:02,680
report and other actions. I see Ham from Councilmember Moore.

1169
02:01:03,180 --> 02:01:09,880
I would be happy to shed a little light on this and put forth the motion here. Resolution

1170
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:14,860
should approve against the nearest report confirming assessment diagram and annual assessment amounts

1171
02:01:14,860 --> 02:01:19,760
and living and collecting of the annual assessments for the Katati landscaping and lighting

1172
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:33,540
assessment district with fiscal year 22 23. I see what you did there by putting a little light on the lighting district. I like that. So we have a move by Council member more to have a second. Please second.

1173
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:43,620
Second by Vice Mayor Harvey. It was clear to not even close. So we will go and see if we can have a roll call.

1174
02:01:45,420 --> 02:01:46,960
Council Member Ford.

1175
02:01:49,530 --> 02:01:49,570
Yes.

1176
02:01:50,570 --> 02:01:51,670
Council Member Moore.

1177
02:01:54,180 --> 02:01:55,260
Council Member Sparks.

1178
02:01:56,140 --> 02:01:56,420
Yes.

1179
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:57,900
Vice Mayor Harvey.

1180
02:01:58,760 --> 02:01:59,040
Yes.

1181
02:01:59,580 --> 02:02:00,400
Mayor Landman.

1182
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:01,520
Yes.

1183
02:02:04,140 --> 02:02:04,320
All right.

1184
02:02:04,420 --> 02:02:09,770
So that concludes item B under this part of our agenda.

1185
02:02:09,950 --> 02:02:14,090
It takes us next to item C, which is a public hearing on outstanding backflow

1186
02:02:14,090 --> 02:02:15,310
charges assessments.

1187
02:02:16,290 --> 02:02:18,090
And if we could have our staff to sort in that, please.

1188
02:02:18,090 --> 02:02:23,850
As Mayor, members of the Council, once again Craig Scott, City Engineer Public Works Director,

1189
02:02:24,750 --> 02:02:29,430
this item we try to track every year with the landscape and lighting assessment district

1190
02:02:29,430 --> 02:02:36,010
item because it once kit is loving assessments against properties but this time it's for

1191
02:02:36,010 --> 02:02:46,110
those folks out there that have backflow prevention devices that have not paid their invoices

1192
02:02:46,110 --> 02:02:57,990
for their annual certification and so owners are giving a notification of the annual certification requirement.

1193
02:02:59,270 --> 02:03:06,190
And given a choice of finding their own contract to certify, do the test of their backlog device

1194
02:03:06,190 --> 02:03:10,130
or have the city provide that test and invoice them.

1195
02:03:10,130 --> 02:03:18,210
Backflow devices just quickly all commercial customers are required to have backflow devices

1196
02:03:18,210 --> 02:03:27,410
because they could have systems equipment on site that could push contaminants water back into our system.

1197
02:03:28,370 --> 02:03:34,890
And then anybody with a pool or a private well similarly are required to have backflow devices.

1198
02:03:35,570 --> 02:03:45,650
So the city does keep an inventory and tracks these and since it's a it's a whole program within our water system building program to maintain

1199
02:03:45,650 --> 02:03:53,650
to make sure that we're a compliant and the customers are compliant with the state requirement to certify these backflow devices.

1200
02:03:53,650 --> 02:04:03,090
This year we have 43 customers that's not pay, that's kind of the number it was.

1201
02:04:03,390 --> 02:04:09,790
I believe from last year, it's holding it at about 40, 50 folks every year.

1202
02:04:11,090 --> 02:04:15,650
So this is a second trip where to counsel on this item.

1203
02:04:15,650 --> 02:04:22,610
The first was two, a couple of months ago to have the notice of intent to

1204
02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:30,530
levianous these assessments and to set the public hearing and then in the interim we went ahead and

1205
02:04:31,530 --> 02:04:38,830
made the publications of the newspaper as required by by state law. So at this point

1206
02:04:38,830 --> 02:04:51,670
We're asking for City Council to conduct the public hearing and following that to approve

1207
02:04:51,670 --> 02:04:56,050
resolution established in the outstanding backflow testing charges and directing the

1208
02:04:56,050 --> 02:05:01,510
living of assessments for the fiscal year 2022-23 property tax rules.

1209
02:05:02,250 --> 02:05:02,450
Thank you.

1210
02:05:04,030 --> 02:05:04,750
I'll ask the Council.

1211
02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:10,580
If anybody has any questions for Mr. Scott, were we open the public hearing and I'll give

1212
02:05:10,580 --> 02:05:16,560
just a second to see if anybody wants to raise your hand and I'm not seeing that.

1213
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:20,300
So I will ask the Deputy City Clerk if we can open the public hearing, please.

1214
02:05:21,500 --> 02:05:22,280
Thank you, Mayor Landvin.

1215
02:05:22,420 --> 02:05:25,480
If you'd like to make a public comment, please use your raise hand icon.

1216
02:05:31,500 --> 02:05:33,200
Mayor Landvin, that will end public comment.

1217
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:34,600
Okay.

1218
02:05:34,660 --> 02:05:42,120
Let me ask you, Mr. Patterson, then in terms of protests, did we receive protests or insufficient?

1219
02:05:45,110 --> 02:05:47,270
Did we receive any protests on this tonight?

1220
02:05:47,270 --> 02:05:49,350
There were no protests received.

1221
02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:52,050
I would say that's very insufficient.

1222
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:52,750
Thank you.

1223
02:05:52,810 --> 02:05:52,950
All right.

1224
02:05:53,070 --> 02:05:56,590
We'll so I'll bring it back to Councilman to see if there's any discussion from anyone.

1225
02:05:57,030 --> 02:06:00,610
And if there's no hands for discussion, then I'd love to see a hand for emotion.

1226
02:06:02,590 --> 02:06:09,550
I would move that we approve a resolution establishing the outstanding backflow testing charges

1227
02:06:09,550 --> 02:06:16,890
and directing the loving of assessments on the fiscal year 2223 property tax rolls.

1228
02:06:16,890 --> 02:06:18,870
Thank you, Vice Mayor Harvey.

1229
02:06:18,990 --> 02:06:20,890
Do we have a second for that?

1230
02:06:21,590 --> 02:06:22,090
A second.

1231
02:06:23,090 --> 02:06:24,630
And a second for Councilmember Moore.

1232
02:06:24,830 --> 02:06:25,270
Thank you. All right.

1233
02:06:25,370 --> 02:06:26,710
Do we have a roll call vote today?

1234
02:06:28,310 --> 02:06:29,270
Councilmember Ford.

1235
02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:30,590
Yes.

1236
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:32,390
Councilmember Moore.

1237
02:06:33,230 --> 02:06:33,310
Yes.

1238
02:06:34,270 --> 02:06:35,230
Councilmember Sparks.

1239
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:36,190
Yes.

1240
02:06:36,830 --> 02:06:37,630
Vice Mayor Harvey.

1241
02:06:38,570 --> 02:06:38,930
Yes.

1242
02:06:39,290 --> 02:06:39,930
Mayor Landman.

1243
02:06:41,250 --> 02:06:41,410
Yes.

1244
02:06:42,890 --> 02:06:43,250
All right.

1245
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:44,390
So that's unanimous.

1246
02:06:44,610 --> 02:06:45,890
Let's bring this back then.

1247
02:06:45,890 --> 02:07:03,710
And we are moving on from public hearing B2 public hearing C, and this is a public hearing to receive all of our written notices for back establishing the outstanding backflow test and charges and the levying of assessments for the chair.

1248
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:06,310
Mr. Scott, I believe you have this report as well.

1249
02:07:06,310 --> 02:07:11,230
Yeah, this report is the next one, which is very similar, but it's for

1250
02:07:11,230 --> 02:07:13,430
The court charges

1251
02:07:15,850 --> 02:07:21,770
It's easy to run these two together. Well, it's it's hard. You get to all the pages on the phone too, but you're right

1252
02:07:21,770 --> 02:07:23,850
Yes, so let's move to that one

1253
02:07:23,850 --> 02:07:24,790
Thank you

1254
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:25,290
so

1255
02:07:26,150 --> 02:07:30,930
Again, this is an item annually where the city has

1256
02:07:30,930 --> 02:07:38,970
This is its last resort mechanism to collect overdue fees.

1257
02:07:39,430 --> 02:07:41,890
And so these are the, it's one.

1258
02:07:41,890 --> 02:07:49,650
It's one customer every year, it's the same property that does not pay their sewer bill.

1259
02:07:50,730 --> 02:07:58,250
And so what happens then, the six payments have a $20 per payment penalty.

1260
02:07:58,250 --> 02:08:09,250
So there's $120 tacked on to their bill and the city collects their sewer bill by putting it going through this process and

1261
02:08:09,250 --> 02:08:11,950
putting it on their property tax assessment.

1262
02:08:13,410 --> 02:08:18,830
I mean, the question people would have is, well, why aren't we seeing water delinquency?

1263
02:08:19,510 --> 02:08:25,150
And that's because the city has a very effective way to get people to pay their water bill.

1264
02:08:25,150 --> 02:08:27,030
And that is to shut off their water service.

1265
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:31,130
and so they come in immediately and pay their water bill.

1266
02:08:31,850 --> 02:08:33,830
So, but on the sewer side of things,

1267
02:08:35,050 --> 02:08:36,730
we have sewer only accounts,

1268
02:08:37,490 --> 02:08:41,130
and so we don't have meters or valves or anything

1269
02:08:41,130 --> 02:08:44,790
on their sewer pipeline for obvious reasons.

1270
02:08:46,670 --> 02:08:49,790
And so this is something we don't have a hammer,

1271
02:08:50,070 --> 02:08:51,810
except for just to put it on their assessment.

1272
02:08:53,090 --> 02:08:55,530
And again, this is the repeat customer.

1273
02:08:57,070 --> 02:09:03,390
that fails to pay their sewer bill. So we're forced to do this each year.

1274
02:09:07,240 --> 02:09:08,340
That's it for me, Mayor.

1275
02:09:09,380 --> 02:09:15,500
Thank you, Mr. Scott. Yeah, this is certainly a day to a few moments for you and us every year. I hear you.

1276
02:09:15,860 --> 02:09:20,120
What's that? Let's move into the council, though, and see if anybody has any questions tonight.

1277
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:20,920
I'm

1278
02:09:23,610 --> 02:09:25,350
not seeing the hands go up.

1279
02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:30,210
So let's go right then if we can open the public hearing on the Sue sewer

1280
02:09:30,210 --> 02:09:30,970
delinquencies.

1281
02:09:33,540 --> 02:09:36,700
If you would like to make a public comment, please use your raise hand icon.

1282
02:09:42,700 --> 02:09:44,460
Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

1283
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:45,920
All right.

1284
02:09:46,020 --> 02:09:49,320
And I'll ask just once again, did we receive any written protests?

1285
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,540
So did we receive sufficient or insufficient protests tonight?

1286
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:54,340
There were no protests received.

1287
02:09:55,380 --> 02:09:55,700
Very good.

1288
02:09:55,700 --> 02:09:56,500
Thank you for that.

1289
02:09:56,580 --> 02:09:58,760
So I'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the council.

1290
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:05,600
ask you a hand from the vice mayor. I'd be happy to make a motion for you and my goodness, Mr. Scott,

1291
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:14,020
I wish that there was some way for us to put some kind of a valve to not have us have to do this every

1292
02:10:14,020 --> 02:10:20,620
year. But with that, maybe you'll come up with something in the future. I'd like to move to adopt a

1293
02:10:20,620 --> 02:10:27,020
resolution approving itemized report of sewer charges and penalties outstanding and directing

1294
02:10:27,020 --> 02:10:33,020
having a assessment on fiscal year 2223 on that property tax rules.

1295
02:10:33,780 --> 02:10:35,280
Thank you, section that.

1296
02:10:36,020 --> 02:10:38,000
And thank you, Council Member Ford for a second.

1297
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:41,180
We'll ask that if we could have a roll call vote on this please.

1298
02:10:41,900 --> 02:10:43,100
Council Member Ford.

1299
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Yes.

1300
02:10:44,740 --> 02:10:45,700
Council Member Moore.

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02:10:46,740 --> 02:10:46,860
Yes.

1302
02:10:47,460 --> 02:10:48,660
Council Member Sparks.

1303
02:10:49,420 --> 02:10:49,720
Yes.

1304
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:51,000
Vice Mayor Harvey.

1305
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:52,320
Yes.

1306
02:10:52,700 --> 02:10:53,400
Mayor Landman.

1307
02:10:53,400 --> 02:11:04,840
And yes, so thank you everybody, that does complete our four public hearings for tonight and moves us now to item 12, which is our regular agenda, which we have three items under.

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02:11:04,940 --> 02:11:11,380
We'll start with item A and this is our SB 1383 Recology Franchise and Waste Delivery Agreement amendments.

1309
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:15,400
And we was our presenter tonight. Will that be you, Mr. Ovid?

1310
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:21,280
It's all lead it off, and then we have Alex Sawyard with our three that's going to present.

1311
02:11:22,740 --> 02:11:28,320
And so everyone knows we also have Fred Stemler and Nikki Burke with us tonight from

1312
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:30,740
Recology to help him for any questions.

1313
02:11:32,340 --> 02:11:34,040
I may interrupt for just a moment.

1314
02:11:35,180 --> 02:11:36,280
I can't remember more. Go ahead.

1315
02:11:36,780 --> 02:11:41,660
I am going to reduce myself from this particular item due to financial considerations.

1316
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:46,760
So I will stop the video and audio.

1317
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:48,820
Thank you very much.

1318
02:11:49,260 --> 02:11:51,200
Should we have someone text you when we're done?

1319
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:52,100
That would be terrific.

1320
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:53,460
Very good.

1321
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:54,680
Thank you, Councilmember Moore.

1322
02:11:54,820 --> 02:11:55,460
We'll see you after.

1323
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:01,320
Thanks.

1324
02:12:02,500 --> 02:12:04,830
So in a nutshell, before we start the presentation,

1325
02:12:05,500 --> 02:12:07,600
the item before us tonight is.

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02:12:08,660 --> 02:12:15,660
One would be an amendment to the frantic agreement for waste collection and disposal.

1327
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:22,340
And that amendment with recolored would do a couple things.

1328
02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:27,260
One is that it would revise our franchise to account for these changes in law,

1329
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:32,540
resulting from SB 1383, which is the New Organic Collection Law.

1330
02:12:32,540 --> 02:12:42,780
Also extending the franchise agreement by five years and then separately there's an agreement called the waste delivery agreement between the city

1331
02:12:42,780 --> 02:12:52,320
Recology and Republic Services who is a LAMP, the County LAMP operator, which is essentially a waste delivery agreement that's all cities

1332
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:57,920
It's a snowman county, essentially all the cities in snowman county are parting to separately.

1333
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:08,640
So with that, we'll introduce Alex and Kevin, if you get that power point up.

1334
02:13:10,990 --> 02:13:13,670
Thank you, Ding-In and thank you,ator Landman.

1335
02:13:14,190 --> 02:13:15,170
Good evening, cast members.

1336
02:13:15,450 --> 02:13:16,290
My name is Alex Suart.

1337
02:13:16,430 --> 02:13:17,970
I'm with R3 Consulting Group.

1338
02:13:18,410 --> 02:13:22,010
I also have William Michelleon with R3 is also in attendance this evening.

1339
02:13:23,070 --> 02:13:26,210
Please, for a second, to you this evening on S.D.

1340
02:13:26,890 --> 02:13:31,050
153 Fireshized Agreement amendment and the amendment to the Waste Library Agreement.

1341
02:13:31,310 --> 02:13:36,290
I'll go through a pre-presentation and any questions like you didn't have answered at the end.

1342
02:13:36,690 --> 02:13:37,650
So, next slide please.

1343
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:43,170
So, we'll give a brief background on the S.D. 1383 and its requirements.

1344
02:13:44,070 --> 02:13:49,230
And we'll review the Waste System amendments and we'll cover the resulting rating for instance.

1345
02:13:49,230 --> 02:13:50,150
Read rate increase.

1346
02:13:50,690 --> 02:13:51,350
Next slide please.

1347
02:13:52,660 --> 02:13:56,980
So, a little bit of background, I'll ask you 138 for you. It's the short live

1348
02:13:56,980 --> 02:13:58,700
climate pollutions act.

1349
02:13:58,700 --> 02:14:02,080
Plutence act is passed in 2016 and it's started getting enforced.

1350
02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:06,360
If we get into this year, if focus is on reducing emissions from organic

1351
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:12,540
disposal and it sets targets for organics recovery statewide, this builds on

1352
02:14:12,540 --> 02:14:18,220
AB 1826, which was started getting implemented in 2016, which was

1353
02:14:18,220 --> 02:14:27,000
organic requirement for a question on commercial and multi-family units. So this goes farther and requires

1354
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:33,940
all generators, residential, commercial, and multi-family to have organic service. Next slide please.

1355
02:14:35,900 --> 02:14:42,280
So the city has a list of responsibilities in RSV 1383. Those are to provide organic

1356
02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:48,520
questions to all to establish a edible food recovery program to conduct outreach and education

1357
02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:54,640
to the community about the new program. The city must procure recovered organic products and

1358
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:59,980
recycled content paper to close the loop. The city also must secure access to it.

1359
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,780
Noble Food Recovery Capacity, and Organics Processing Capacity Mode Forward, and the city was also

1360
02:15:07,780 --> 02:15:13,600
moderate compliance by conducting or out reviews and contamination moderate. Next slide, please.

1361
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:17,280
So here's a

1362
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:22,420
little diagram about kind of how the different agreements work in facilitate waste collection in

1363
02:15:24,820 --> 02:15:33,040
So the first left hand portion of the slide is has waste collection throughout the city and that's done directly throughout through the franchise agreement,

1364
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:36,200
within agreement between the city and re-cology.

1365
02:15:38,300 --> 02:15:47,100
The contracts that govern the waste transfer to the central landfill are the waste delivery agreement between the city of Katadi and Republic and the franchise holiday agreement,

1366
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:48,940
which is between the Sea of Cotty,

1367
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:52,560
ecology, and republic, and then on the waste disposal

1368
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,260
and processing end, the master opera

1369
02:15:55,260 --> 02:15:58,360
student's agreement, the snowmaccount

1370
02:15:58,360 --> 02:16:01,520
equals with the republic, coverings that,

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02:16:01,660 --> 02:16:03,720
and then these prime sub-cron-crack

1372
02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:05,720
between the republic and ecology

1373
02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:07,520
also determines what happens with that

1374
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:07,940
material.

1375
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:10,960
Next slide, please.

1376
02:16:12,820 --> 02:16:14,740
So the master operating agreement

1377
02:16:14,740 --> 02:16:16,620
dictates the processing and disposal

1378
02:16:16,620 --> 02:16:22,680
of material. The existing commercial food waste program is offered under the master operating

1379
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:28,480
agreement and the crisis does not currently collect organics and recyclable from all generators

1380
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:37,200
as a part by SB3203. Amended master operating agreement eliminates the $4201 cent gate fee

1381
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:43,880
that funded the program and that revenue has to be replaced. The cost to implement the SB3203

1382
02:16:43,880 --> 02:16:48,180
program improvements are addressed in the French has agreement amendment and it's associated

1383
02:16:48,180 --> 02:16:51,260
region. Next slide please.

1384
02:16:53,570 --> 02:16:59,150
The waste delivery agreement requires the transfer of waste to the central landfill. Eliminates

1385
02:16:59,150 --> 02:17:04,290
the food and dry commercial mixed waste programs offered by the master operating agreement.

1386
02:17:05,090 --> 02:17:12,770
It has been revised to eliminate the $4.21 ton fee that has funded the program in the past

1387
02:17:12,770 --> 02:17:15,070
And that will now be adjusted on customer rates

1388
02:17:15,070 --> 02:17:17,370
through the annual rate adjustment process.

1389
02:17:17,750 --> 02:17:21,450
This enables more efficient collection of food waste.

1390
02:17:22,030 --> 02:17:22,790
Next slide, please.

1391
02:17:28,330 --> 02:17:30,130
So the franchise agreement amendment

1392
02:17:30,130 --> 02:17:33,590
adds SB 13, 1383 compliant programs,

1393
02:17:34,210 --> 02:17:37,030
including the rollout of free bin systems, all customers,

1394
02:17:38,170 --> 02:17:40,850
additional drivers and trucks to provide the service,

1395
02:17:41,350 --> 02:17:43,770
purchasing of compliant containers and labels,

1396
02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:46,970
conducting route reviews and compliance reviews

1397
02:17:46,970 --> 02:17:52,830
to ensure customers are separating materials properly, providing outreach and education to all customers

1398
02:17:52,830 --> 02:17:59,590
and reporting to Cal Recycle on the reporting primence for the new law, and additionally with

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02:17:59,590 --> 02:18:04,710
this franchise amendment, there is a five-year extension of the contracts, and rate adjustments

1400
02:18:04,710 --> 02:18:08,570
will cover additional operating expenses to implement programs.

1401
02:18:09,610 --> 02:18:10,430
Next slide, please.

1402
02:18:12,830 --> 02:18:15,970
So this will result in a 6.4% one-time rate adjustment.

1403
02:18:15,970 --> 02:18:21,290
I'll be effective January 1st, 2023, the rate has just been included in the draft franchise.

1404
02:18:21,690 --> 02:18:23,870
Is it included in the draft franchise agreement?

1405
02:18:24,530 --> 02:18:29,730
And it funds SB 1383 compliant residential and commercial collection services.

1406
02:18:31,510 --> 02:18:32,530
And next slide.

1407
02:18:33,770 --> 02:18:35,190
We'll finish and put any questions.

1408
02:18:36,570 --> 02:18:36,810
Perfect.

1409
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:38,430
Go to our council.

1410
02:18:38,610 --> 02:18:40,390
We'll see if anybody has any questions first.

1411
02:18:40,490 --> 02:18:41,110
Speaker's tonight.

1412
02:18:46,070 --> 02:18:47,550
And I'm seeing a handful of council members parks.

1413
02:18:47,730 --> 02:18:48,230
Please go ahead.

1414
02:18:48,850 --> 02:18:58,270
Okay, I noticed that one of the components for the increased cost was the fuel costs for the additional vehicle to do the compost green waste recovery.

1415
02:18:59,350 --> 02:18:59,950
Pick up.

1416
02:19:00,190 --> 02:19:06,850
And my question was just as recall, do you have any plans to move to electric vehicles for new vehicles with their purchasing?

1417
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:17,500
Do you have memories from recalling you here, so they can try to answer that themselves or I do not.

1418
02:19:19,620 --> 02:19:21,500
It's just my audio coming through.

1419
02:19:22,260 --> 02:19:23,360
Yes, it is.

1420
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:25,260
Hi, it's just Fred Stemler, I'm the general manager.

1421
02:19:26,420 --> 02:19:30,700
Recology as a whole has been pursuing electric vehicles for some time now.

1422
02:19:31,820 --> 02:19:36,620
One of the things that is an impediment to rolling these out.

1423
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:39,340
Actually, hang on a second.

1424
02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:48,560
I got an order from over here.

1425
02:19:48,860 --> 02:19:53,360
So the trucks essentially aren't capable of completing the route at this point.

1426
02:19:53,360 --> 02:19:56,800
So we've demoed several models, but they haven't rolled out one,

1427
02:19:56,880 --> 02:19:59,540
texting the inductor in an entire full day route.

1428
02:20:00,860 --> 02:20:04,400
So we've got several models that are working the way through,

1429
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:07,080
but we anticipate somewhere in the next 12 to 24 months

1430
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:09,200
we may see a full route truck available.

1431
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:13,500
It just because the battery capacity is not high enough, too.

1432
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:14,080
Exactly.

1433
02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:18,020
Yeah, it's just with the weight of the vehicle and the amount of miles of the

1434
02:20:18,020 --> 02:20:22,280
cover is the cell is just not large enough to complete a full route.

1435
02:20:22,860 --> 02:20:24,660
Okay, thank you.

1436
02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:27,420
Thank you, Council Member Sparks.

1437
02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:28,100
Good question.

1438
02:20:28,700 --> 02:20:29,340
Let's see.

1439
02:20:29,820 --> 02:20:30,540
Anybody else?

1440
02:20:31,140 --> 02:20:31,380
All right.

1441
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:33,120
I'm not seeing any questions at this point.

1442
02:20:33,220 --> 02:20:34,440
So this might be a perfect time.

1443
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:36,780
Then to go and open public comment, please.

1444
02:20:38,810 --> 02:20:39,750
Thank you, Mayor Landman.

1445
02:20:39,870 --> 02:20:40,750
Speaking to our attendees.

1446
02:20:40,910 --> 02:20:42,310
If you'd like to make a public comment.

1447
02:20:42,350 --> 02:20:43,690
Please use your raise hand icon.

1448
02:20:50,060 --> 02:20:50,580
Mayor Landman.

1449
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:52,040
That will end public comment.

1450
02:20:53,320 --> 02:20:53,540
All right.

1451
02:20:53,660 --> 02:20:56,660
Well, I'll bring it back to the council and see if there's any further discussion.

1452
02:20:56,660 --> 02:21:02,220
questions or anything else from the council. And if I don't see that shortly, then I'll ask

1453
02:21:02,220 --> 02:21:04,440
you somebody would like to make a motion on this issue.

1454
02:21:07,170 --> 02:21:09,910
Happy to make a motion, Mayor. If you'd like.

1455
02:21:11,900 --> 02:21:14,240
Yeah, thank you, goodbye, Mayor. I think it's not time.

1456
02:21:14,780 --> 02:21:22,680
Okay. I move that we adopt a resolution one, authorizing the city manager to sign the first amendment

1457
02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:28,500
to the franchise agreement for collection, disposal, and processing of solid waste recyclables

1458
02:21:28,500 --> 02:21:53,200
and compostable materials related activities pursuant to chapter 8.08 of the Katadi Municipal Code to implement SB 1383 and extend the franchise agreement by five years and to approving the proposed Omnibus amendment to waste delivery agreement and franchise policy agreement.

1459
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:57,260
Thank you for that, Vice Mayor Harvey. Do we have a second from anybody on the council?

1460
02:21:58,300 --> 02:21:58,740
Second.

1461
02:21:59,560 --> 02:22:01,200
And a second from Council Member Sparks.

1462
02:22:01,620 --> 02:22:02,400
Thank you.

1463
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:03,320
All right.

1464
02:22:03,900 --> 02:22:05,200
With that, I just before we have revoked.

1465
02:22:05,320 --> 02:22:08,700
I would like to thank Art 3 and Recology for being here tonight.

1466
02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:11,380
I know it's always difficult at the end of the day to do.

1467
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:14,700
One more virtual meeting, particularly when we're all working from home,

1468
02:22:14,860 --> 02:22:18,900
which is not always as easy as we might have thought it would have been some years ago.

1469
02:22:19,180 --> 02:22:22,140
But it's appreciated to have you here in case any questions and arose.

1470
02:22:22,300 --> 02:22:26,520
And I think there's the years of good work we've had together going through these

1471
02:22:26,520 --> 02:22:31,840
These processes have brought us to a point where tonight we actually didn't have a lot of questions

1472
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:36,760
but thank you for being here. So with that I'm going to ask if we can have a roll call vote please.

1473
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:42,820
Council member Ford. Yes. Council member Sparks. Yes.

1474
02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:51,940
Vice Mayor Harvey. Yes. Mayor Landman. Yes. All right. Thank you Council. This completes

1475
02:22:51,940 --> 02:22:55,980
the item A under our regular agenda. We're not going to go to item B, which is adoption

1476
02:22:55,980 --> 02:23:02,220
of Katati's budget and capital improvement program for years 22, 23.

1477
02:23:02,940 --> 02:23:06,680
Maryland, I don't know, Damien, can you tell us something?

1478
02:23:07,260 --> 02:23:08,580
I'll go out there.

1479
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:10,800
Thank you, I just received that text.

1480
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:11,940
Thank you.

1481
02:23:12,660 --> 02:23:13,000
Thank you.

1482
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:16,840
Thank you, and thank you, bring it up there. And I should assume that it was being done.

1483
02:23:17,300 --> 02:23:18,980
We all know about that.

1484
02:23:21,180 --> 02:23:28,960
So with that, if we're ready to jump into, we'll get a council member more a second to get back and move to our budget item.

1485
02:23:32,270 --> 02:23:33,190
We're ready to go.

1486
02:23:33,630 --> 02:23:34,310
Mayor Lina.

1487
02:23:34,830 --> 02:23:34,970
Thank you.

1488
02:23:35,530 --> 02:23:36,250
Good evening, Mayor.

1489
02:23:36,310 --> 02:23:39,470
Council members of the public and fellow staff.

1490
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:43,090
We're going to wait for the presentation to pop up.

1491
02:23:43,450 --> 02:23:49,030
But tonight, as you said, we're going to be presenting for you the approval for the proposed budget for fiscal year,

1492
02:23:50,110 --> 02:23:53,790
2223 as well as then we'll tell you your capital program.

1493
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:02,180
Kevin, would you mind advancing the slide please?

1494
02:24:04,300 --> 02:24:05,380
Thank you.

1495
02:24:05,820 --> 02:24:11,360
So our budget process is not just a single document or a meeting, but rather it is a year-long process.

1496
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:17,840
Even after the budget is adopted, it is a reviewed and updated with council resolution adoptions.

1497
02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:22,580
and then in November December the city manager and the administrative services department

1498
02:24:22,580 --> 02:24:30,420
develop a plan for the upcoming protocol budget sessions and season. In January we provide

1499
02:24:30,420 --> 02:24:37,760
the midyear report which provides an update on the existing fiscal year budget and where we stand

1500
02:24:37,760 --> 02:24:44,040
and then in February through May there are separate budget studies sessions and meetings which include

1501
02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:50,340
internal budget reviews, budget study sessions, and this all leads to the budget adoption again.

1502
02:24:51,020 --> 02:24:56,800
So if you'd like to learn more about the budget process, please see packet page 413 as well

1503
02:24:56,800 --> 02:25:01,140
as a budget video, which is on the city website as well as the budget online.

1504
02:25:05,230 --> 02:25:05,690
Next slide.

1505
02:25:08,130 --> 02:25:08,470
So this

1506
02:25:08,470 --> 02:25:15,810
year's budget study sessions started in February 15th with the strategic planning session sessions,

1507
02:25:15,810 --> 02:25:21,710
which developed the cities objectives and goals, followed by April 19th and May 17th,

1508
02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:26,710
where the numbers were actually discussed for the proposed budgets for all the funds

1509
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:32,110
including the capital projects, leading to now with the presentation for the adoption of the

1510
02:25:32,110 --> 02:25:33,310
2223 budget.

1511
02:25:36,630 --> 02:25:41,190
So the key thing at the February 15th strategic planning session was the council's

1512
02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:47,450
review of the city's strategic objectives. This was then revised and brought that for approval on

1513
02:25:47,450 --> 02:25:54,010
on 19th. Changes that were part of that discussion and revisions that were made were really

1514
02:25:54,010 --> 02:25:59,410
separating out that climate change as a separate specific goal for the city. And we also

1515
02:25:59,410 --> 02:26:05,230
revise some key supporting focus items under providing the best and class community services.

1516
02:26:06,530 --> 02:26:07,090
Next slide.

1517
02:26:09,710 --> 02:26:14,830
So the most difficult part in providing this full budget and presentation over

1518
02:26:14,830 --> 02:26:23,130
Last month or so has been the moving targets and information to provide about what's really happening in our economy right now.

1519
02:26:23,430 --> 02:26:42,170
This is a very brief recap of the economic indicators and everything is really indicating that it's still continuing to be highly volatile with GDP growth looking to decline into 2223 and the current unemployment rates are really hitting pre pandemic levels.

1520
02:26:42,170 --> 02:26:49,050
So we'll go as smidge deeper into the effects of these and what's playing into these in the next slide.

1521
02:26:49,310 --> 02:26:56,950
But first, I do want to point out that in the packet on page 422, it provides really kind of more of a summary,

1522
02:26:56,950 --> 02:27:03,870
but detailed summary of an economic outlook and how those considerations went into our budget development process.

1523
02:27:05,010 --> 02:27:05,650
Next slide.

1524
02:27:07,060 --> 02:27:17,140
So, some key assumptions that impact or economic environment, including global national considerations that really can be felt here in Kentucky.

1525
02:27:18,500 --> 02:27:31,980
So, inflation, key impacts from the federal fed tools that are being used to combat inflation, to increasing interest rates, the legislative impacts that might be coming down the pike.

1526
02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:37,260
How do we build around those assumptions like what what might be happening with gas,

1527
02:27:37,780 --> 02:27:40,660
tax holidays? You know, how is that going to impact our infrastructure?

1528
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:46,920
These are things we have to assume and build out for but we really never know what's going to happen.

1529
02:27:47,460 --> 02:27:54,060
We still have a lingering effects as to as we are recovering from COVID-19 and these are kind of

1530
02:27:54,060 --> 02:28:00,000
things like inventory shortages, staffing shortages, and then we also have the global sanctions

1531
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:05,240
against Russia, and it impacts on commodities like gas, which are currently absolutely

1532
02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:09,100
felt here at home here at being taught. Next slide.

1533
02:28:11,220 --> 02:28:13,580
So down to you again, the key fund for

1534
02:28:13,580 --> 02:28:19,320
Petody, which is the general fund. This is a primary fund used by the city for all of our government

1535
02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:25,220
really activities. These accounts for everything that is not in your price or water and sewer,

1536
02:28:25,480 --> 02:28:31,000
or our special segregated funds that are for special purposes. We went into depth in the

1537
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:42,800
development of the general fund budgets during the study sessions in April 19th and May 17th and really there's no significant changes since then that are being proposed for adoption at this point.

1538
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:44,780
Next slide.

1539
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:46,780
And again,

1540
02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:57,580
so highlights the general fund budget are a slight decline in operating revenues of approximately $30,000.

1541
02:28:57,580 --> 02:29:03,240
This is due to conservative budgeting on uncertain charges for service fees.

1542
02:29:03,860 --> 02:29:09,940
We continue to have a balanced operating budget with a net surplus of 1.3 million.

1543
02:29:10,860 --> 02:29:16,960
And accumulated surface is then rolled in and being used to fund those capital projects,

1544
02:29:17,260 --> 02:29:23,320
which in turn are estimated to receive an additional matching grants of close to 1.2 million

1545
02:29:24,220 --> 02:29:28,280
for the budget year 2223. Next slide.

1546
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:33,760
So other highlights are, we really are meeting and

1547
02:29:33,760 --> 02:29:41,320
exceeding the required reserve of the 25% for both the estimated budget year of 2122, as

1548
02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:49,920
well as the proposed 2223 fiscal years. Adjusting for the budgeting of the ARPA funds, the operating

1549
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:59,800
revenues are estimated to increase from the adopted budget by 7.5% from the estimated 2122 budget and then 7.

1550
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:26,440
Like 2% for the proposed 2223 budget. On the opposite side, for expenditures staffing costs is really consistent with the adopted budget that we have for 2122. And we will further talk about the actual estimated actuals for expenditures are different due to our one time UAL distribution for ADP.

1551
02:30:26,440 --> 02:30:33,720
The major expenditure changes for the budget you are related to again the contract services for insurance.

1552
02:30:34,420 --> 02:30:41,800
The new debt service for the least at the streets work as well as the one time of the election expense this fall.

1553
02:30:43,250 --> 02:30:44,490
Next slide please.

1554
02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:56,860
So as you can see there is less than a .5% change in the operating revenues for the proposed fiscal year 2223.

1555
02:30:56,860 --> 02:31:06,320
The increase in property tax and sales tax and other taxes are offset by the decreases and the charges for services.

1556
02:31:06,960 --> 02:31:14,480
And these charges for services are really uncertain revenues year to year because they're based on the developments that happen at that point in time.

1557
02:31:14,820 --> 02:31:17,020
And we currently don't have any solid.

1558
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:20,480
We know this is being dug up and built right now.

1559
02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:24,360
And so we can't think on those revenues being in.

1560
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:31,400
as well as there was a decrease in other revenues and this other revenues had a one-time receipt of a deposit refund

1561
02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:37,940
approximately $200,000 so that is a one-time receipt we don't budget for one time off things

1562
02:31:37,940 --> 02:31:43,980
that have no expectation in the future. Alternatively we are anticipating slightly the better

1563
02:31:43,980 --> 02:31:49,860
investment returns as interest rates increase and so some markets and CDs were actually seeing them

1564
02:31:49,860 --> 02:31:51,960
bound on those returns.

1565
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:54,340
Next slide please.

1566
02:31:57,350 --> 02:32:03,550
So overall this forecast budget is based on the best available information for today.

1567
02:32:04,390 --> 02:32:07,310
Estimates, again, that's my favorite word are conservative.

1568
02:32:07,670 --> 02:32:10,530
We're making sure we're trying to keep it as solid as possible.

1569
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:15,790
A little bit of making sure revenues are reasonable and the expenses as well are reasonable.

1570
02:32:17,130 --> 02:32:23,710
The sales tax measure G, which make up approximately 60% of the general fund operating revenues,

1571
02:32:24,270 --> 02:32:30,510
are projected based on a 2% growth due to the strong demand for goods at a higher price currently.

1572
02:32:31,490 --> 02:32:33,590
Again, we don't know what's going to happen.

1573
02:32:33,870 --> 02:32:44,710
Footprint for recession, people's spending habits change or reduced, but this is a conservative estimate of what is being met by our community right now.

1574
02:32:44,710 --> 02:32:49,770
And we can look at that as our key industries listed here.

1575
02:32:50,510 --> 02:32:55,090
Now, for our property taxes, which are approximately 20% of the general fund operating revenues,

1576
02:32:55,590 --> 02:33:02,170
we do have an estimate of increasing 2% of the prior budget due to the completion of higher tax valued properties,

1577
02:33:02,730 --> 02:33:08,710
mostly casting ranch, and the additional expected 2% from the assessors applied CPI.

1578
02:33:09,530 --> 02:33:13,870
cannabis tax is increasing due to the additional retail permit.

1579
02:33:14,110 --> 02:33:18,250
We're seeing hopefully coming online within the early of 2223.

1580
02:33:19,490 --> 02:33:22,870
We're going to expect the continuation of this no-mistate dispatch agreement,

1581
02:33:23,530 --> 02:33:26,570
as well as, again, mentioned in the previous slide,

1582
02:33:26,610 --> 02:33:29,610
would you have a reduction of other revenue due to that one-time payment?

1583
02:33:32,880 --> 02:33:35,680
So flipping over to the operating expenditures.

1584
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:40,120
So these are the key items that really affect all of the departments

1585
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:44,560
across the operating expenses for the general fund again.

1586
02:33:45,500 --> 02:33:50,080
So nothing different has come out from compared to our strategic planning sessions.

1587
02:33:50,620 --> 02:33:55,060
All departments were affected by the CalPERS additional discretionary payment.

1588
02:33:55,600 --> 02:33:59,700
As well as we're still continuing to propose that lump sum payment

1589
02:33:59,700 --> 02:34:06,100
in the beginning of this year 2223 in order to save that 3% additional costs

1590
02:34:06,100 --> 02:34:12,380
by spring them out throughout the year. Secondly, we have the allocation of contract services,

1591
02:34:12,520 --> 02:34:19,180
which are based on the department's proportion of the FTE and so the as a contract services increase

1592
02:34:19,180 --> 02:34:24,800
the allocation of the different departments increases by that amount and so the contract services

1593
02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:32,700
increase. Third, we have the rising cost of insurance, which is noted, I mean 52% increase from our

1594
02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:35,140
which is significant.

1595
02:34:36,380 --> 02:34:39,100
There, we also have the full employment budgeting.

1596
02:34:39,440 --> 02:34:43,440
So we do use in our budgeting to, again, be conservative

1597
02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:48,200
that we estimate that everyone here, their position is full.

1598
02:34:48,340 --> 02:34:50,160
It's filled full time.

1599
02:34:50,440 --> 02:34:56,180
We don't build in gaps based on turnover or recruiting timelines

1600
02:34:56,180 --> 02:34:58,240
or those types of things.

1601
02:34:59,440 --> 02:35:00,400
Next slide.

1602
02:35:01,220 --> 02:35:09,020
So I'll bring expenditures by department, the major adjusting item is that UALADP of just under $5 million.

1603
02:35:09,860 --> 02:35:18,140
Adjusting for this, the total change in expenditures is around 9.5% or an increase of 767,000.

1604
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:26,480
More information on the detailed department budgets are available on packet pages for 53 to 494.

1605
02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:37,200
And these department pages also include the department or charts of proposed projects for fiscal year 2022, 23, all of also was a part of our strategic planning sessions.

1606
02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:44,100
And we'll go a little bit farther into detail as to what the specific changes were in each department on the next slide.

1607
02:35:48,030 --> 02:35:57,390
So to summarize those financial changes by department, the city managers department continues to have the inclusion of the public information services.

1608
02:35:57,390 --> 02:36:12,510
If they do have that addition of the election charges for 2223, we build an estimate of what we think it's going to take for election costs for the year and make sure it's included and that is where it is included in the city manager department.

1609
02:36:13,210 --> 02:36:24,330
They also have a little bit of a flux within their personnel, where we have the reduction of the city clerk that is going to be offset slightly by the administrative assistant position.

1610
02:36:25,050 --> 02:36:30,810
The Administrative Services Department is primarily increasing due to a budgeting for a new

1611
02:36:30,810 --> 02:36:38,270
accountant, as well as we've had an open inter-position that we hope to fill this year.

1612
02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:43,990
The Community Development changes primary due to additional part-time permit tech.

1613
02:36:44,230 --> 02:36:50,150
That will be put into their department. The Public Works Department changes the primary due to

1614
02:36:50,150 --> 02:36:53,430
increased users and subscriptions and that allocated insurance.

1615
02:36:53,930 --> 02:36:59,170
So again, when you have more FTE, when you have a larger expense and you're allocating

1616
02:36:59,170 --> 02:37:02,770
more of that expense, it impacts that department a lot more.

1617
02:37:03,690 --> 02:37:08,550
And as well as they now have the operational funding for the Ronda Floody Branch for

1618
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:09,430
the second year.

1619
02:37:10,390 --> 02:37:11,530
As I continue to grow.

1620
02:37:12,170 --> 02:37:13,410
Next slide.

1621
02:37:13,410 --> 02:37:42,310
On to the police services, this includes significant continued investment and technology services which are primarily provided by the public safety consortium and the additional cost of training, now that training is continuing to ongoing travel to training and the offsetting over time to make sure we're running that 24, 7, 365 operations with the required manpower without reducing that training.

1622
02:37:42,970 --> 02:37:55,350
The other significant expense, again, is that allocation they have, because they are 24, 7, 3, 6, 5, they have the most FTE, so when you have a large expense, they get a larger piece of that larger expense.

1623
02:37:55,350 --> 02:38:24,190
So, recreation department, so the recdesk annual software contract renewal, so this is a piece of it, and with that contract renewal, they also have banking fees, because you get to pay for your recreation classes, your camp fees and everything else through this recdesk service, and so they of course charge those big fees, and so that becomes more active those banking fees also become a little bit more of an increase in expense.

1624
02:38:27,130 --> 02:38:38,150
So those are really the key points of the operating revenues and expenses, the other main component of the general funds are those non operating expenses revenues and transfers in.

1625
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:48,010
The transfers in are our standard cost grants prop 1, 72 funds which are brought in from a special revenue fund to cover some of the PD expenses.

1626
02:38:48,690 --> 02:38:56,430
Again, really doesn't cover much. It's a little bit in the bucket, but it is something we make sure we transfer into cover those.

1627
02:38:56,430 --> 02:39:08,690
The transfers out are primarily for careful projects and grants careful projects, as well as replenishment for a cost within the success latency fund as well as funding for that key night.

1628
02:39:10,170 --> 02:39:10,910
Next slide.

1629
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:15,400
So careful projects in the multi-year plan.

1630
02:39:16,400 --> 02:39:21,440
It is included within packet pages 667 to 872.

1631
02:39:21,440 --> 02:39:49,820
And I should be referring everyone to all of these documents are all, you know, non document, but are available on our website that is fully manageable, manipulatable, you can pull your own budget reports as well in any specific detail you want and so the capital projects is a physical document that could be to over 200 pages, but if you want something specific on the individual project, you want to look at it a little bit deeper, look at the pictures a little bit better.

1632
02:39:49,820 --> 02:39:56,300
You absolutely should check out the portal for our city budget as well as the capital projects online.

1633
02:39:58,340 --> 02:40:07,580
So there's also an amendment to the pages that provided online because there were two projects in future years that were previously excluded.

1634
02:40:07,860 --> 02:40:09,740
So I wanted to make sure those are pointed up.

1635
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:17,760
So for the budget, we'll be really just focusing on the projects for just the first fiscal year because that's the budget that we're adopting first year.

1636
02:40:20,540 --> 02:40:27,180
So, for grants matching, we have both the Streets Project for PUCs May 2.9 million, as well as a

1637
02:40:27,180 --> 02:40:33,620
Katati Park Project for 2.4 million. Again, more details in the scope of these projects are within

1638
02:40:33,620 --> 02:40:35,580
those multi-year capital plan.

1639
02:40:41,420 --> 02:40:46,280
Other Streets Projects include Work On Parks, which is a PUC at Park

1640
02:40:46,280 --> 02:40:54,020
and PUC at PUC. And then our significant bit of work is all going to be done on streets, not that

1641
02:40:54,020 --> 02:41:18,220
parks are not getting a big chunk of work done, they absolutely will, but streets are where we have a total of 7.7 million just in our capital projects streets work plus that 2.9 million work in that grant matching fund for a total of $10.5 million worth of street work that we are proposing to keep moving forward.

1642
02:41:18,760 --> 02:41:22,480
Again, this does also include other key things we lump in

1643
02:41:22,480 --> 02:41:27,740
the streets, but it's pedestrian, safety, by pad, the bench at

1644
02:41:27,740 --> 02:41:31,540
Old Robert Highway 1116, Gateway Signage, so anything that's

1645
02:41:31,540 --> 02:41:35,860
tangential to a street is a street project, not just the

1646
02:41:35,860 --> 02:41:39,460
round that you drive over with your car. There's a lot of other

1647
02:41:39,460 --> 02:41:42,040
pieces to it as well. Next slide, please.

1648
02:41:45,480 --> 02:41:47,100
So, other key projects also

1649
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:49,940
include the Civic Center Windows Repairs or Building

1650
02:41:49,940 --> 02:42:19,800
projects as well as we already discussed about the LLAD projects that we are coordinating as well and not included within the multi your capital program. We did want to make sure we highlighted that even invited within the general fund just as a part of our additional maintenance and work firm improvements we do have additional proposed parks and state refurbishments that are included within the parks as well as street

1651
02:42:21,180 --> 02:42:23,560
maintenance within the general fund.

1652
02:42:24,060 --> 02:42:26,150
So those are both for 35,000 weeks.

1653
02:42:28,000 --> 02:42:28,720
Next slide.

1654
02:42:29,360 --> 02:42:31,500
So that's really the piece on the general fund.

1655
02:42:31,960 --> 02:42:35,800
The special revenue funds are these other funds that account for

1656
02:42:35,800 --> 02:42:40,040
legally restricted or earmarked for special purposes.

1657
02:42:40,420 --> 02:42:43,780
These special revenue funds are managed by multiple different

1658
02:42:43,780 --> 02:42:46,720
departments as outlined in this slide.

1659
02:42:49,740 --> 02:42:50,440
Next slide.

1660
02:42:50,440 --> 02:42:56,980
So overall revenues, the primary contributors for these special revenues are taxes, like

1661
02:42:56,980 --> 02:43:03,420
parks, measure M taxes, streets, measure M, gas tax, these are all special revenues that

1662
02:43:03,420 --> 02:43:05,200
are supposed to be used for a special purpose.

1663
02:43:05,920 --> 02:43:11,560
The other key are other revenues, like development fees for funds like inclusionary housing,

1664
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:17,640
affordable housing, parking lieu, traffic mitigation, as well as other grant revenues, like

1665
02:43:17,640 --> 02:43:20,540
cops fleece like we just spoke about in the last line.

1666
02:43:22,600 --> 02:43:23,300
So next slide.

1667
02:43:25,550 --> 02:43:26,790
So this slide really takes

1668
02:43:26,790 --> 02:43:32,250
those same revenues. So looking at them from their sources. And now here's actually what

1669
02:43:32,250 --> 02:43:36,610
those different pieces are again. You'll see the gas talks. That's the talks piece of it that's

1670
02:43:36,610 --> 02:43:43,350
the contributing for that piece. The public safety that's that fleece that cops grant are MRA,

1671
02:43:43,530 --> 02:43:49,150
another self-tax, and Perk's Fischer M. So this is a breakout by those files. So this is where

1672
02:43:49,150 --> 02:43:52,750
those revenues are by those special revenue funds.

1673
02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:54,590
Next slide.

1674
02:43:56,250 --> 02:43:58,070
So for the operations of these funds,

1675
02:43:58,690 --> 02:44:02,750
primary, primarily they go to contributions

1676
02:44:03,390 --> 02:44:07,890
to the or transfers out for our capital projects.

1677
02:44:07,990 --> 02:44:09,910
So that's the key part of that there.

1678
02:44:12,010 --> 02:44:14,890
And so this either goes into the grants fund

1679
02:44:14,890 --> 02:44:17,590
or their transfer to so that we can use those

1680
02:44:17,590 --> 02:44:23,250
leverage them for grant matching programs if they meet that special revenue or requirement

1681
02:44:23,250 --> 02:44:28,930
for the expenditures or they go to our also our capital project funds if they meet those.

1682
02:44:29,250 --> 02:44:34,410
So this would be like our gas tax fund would go to help support our streets street maintenance

1683
02:44:34,410 --> 02:44:39,370
work and those are our capital projects for streets. So these are those transfers out to fund

1684
02:44:39,370 --> 02:44:45,610
those projects. They also have direct contract services. So for inclusionary housing,

1685
02:44:45,610 --> 02:44:50,570
access bond proceeds. Those have specific contracts for those economic development purposes,

1686
02:44:51,070 --> 02:44:55,940
those other purposes, but that is a little bit smaller than those direct transfers out.

1687
02:44:58,530 --> 02:44:59,350
Next slide.

1688
02:45:01,040 --> 02:45:16,040
So, after special revenue funds, we have our internal service funds. There again was no significant change since our budget study on May 17th. And details can be found on packet pages 609 to 1615.

1689
02:45:16,040 --> 02:45:21,780
Overall, City has two internal service funds, the vehicle maintenance and compensated absences

1690
02:45:21,780 --> 02:45:22,240
fund.

1691
02:45:22,740 --> 02:45:28,880
The internal service funds for the vehicle maintenance, it's to provide that ongoing plan

1692
02:45:28,880 --> 02:45:33,060
for replacement or repairs and maintenance of our fleet.

1693
02:45:34,100 --> 02:45:41,380
The continued investment for 2223 is for approximately $361,000 for the replacement

1694
02:45:41,380 --> 02:45:49,020
to please intercept our SUVs potentially, evaluating what type of make model what's going to work.

1695
02:45:49,180 --> 02:45:55,420
These things are not something that we call someone up and order a piece of equipment, you know,

1696
02:45:55,560 --> 02:46:02,100
next day, it's something that we always bring that to council to make sure we meet this

1697
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:11,360
threshold for what is required for that replacement. And so that's something we would be

1698
02:46:11,360 --> 02:46:13,700
that's just been on back order for public works

1699
02:46:13,700 --> 02:46:14,980
for over a year now.

1700
02:46:15,180 --> 02:46:18,260
So that is still included within this adopted budget.

1701
02:46:20,160 --> 02:46:22,380
Alternatively, for the compensated absences fund,

1702
02:46:22,420 --> 02:46:24,140
there's not a significant change,

1703
02:46:24,660 --> 02:46:26,140
except for the balances are increased

1704
02:46:26,140 --> 02:46:29,260
to address the estimated changes and salaries in benefits.

1705
02:46:30,440 --> 02:46:31,320
Next slide.

1706
02:46:33,450 --> 02:46:35,830
So last but not least, is the enterprise funds

1707
02:46:35,830 --> 02:46:36,810
for water and sewer.

1708
02:46:37,390 --> 02:46:39,210
So these are used to account for the operations

1709
02:46:39,210 --> 02:46:41,170
that are similar to a private business

1710
02:46:41,170 --> 02:46:49,410
enterprise or the intent is to sell a product a good at cost and provide it as a service

1711
02:46:49,410 --> 02:46:54,410
to general public on a continuing basis and we finance it through the use charges.

1712
02:46:55,570 --> 02:46:56,430
Next slide.

1713
02:46:58,700 --> 02:47:03,360
So the overall highlights for the enterprise funds again, they maintain they have a higher

1714
02:47:03,360 --> 02:47:09,060
threshold for reserve for the operating expenses and that's 33% and both of them do so.

1715
02:47:09,060 --> 02:47:24,220
The rate change study that was adopted 614 is being implemented and is included within the proposed budget and will be implemented for bills starting as that have start dates as of 615.

1716
02:47:25,820 --> 02:47:38,200
We do make sure also that these are based on conservative revenue and expenditure estimates correlating with our rate study as well as continue to focus on infrastructure improvements and preservation of our existing systems.

1717
02:47:41,460 --> 02:47:55,440
For water, the revenues are budgeted to increase space on the adopted fees or the right study with those significant change again and the connection fees based on future developments that are in the works currently.

1718
02:47:56,620 --> 02:48:03,760
The proposed capital project improvements include this data server upgrade relocation as well as the P1 error replacement.

1719
02:48:04,900 --> 02:48:09,240
The changes for operating expenditures are similar to the general fund.

1720
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:14,200
Plus we have the water conservation programs which we see on going.

1721
02:48:14,380 --> 02:48:15,380
The drought is still existing.

1722
02:48:15,580 --> 02:48:18,020
We're going to continue to fund water conservation efforts.

1723
02:48:18,700 --> 02:48:23,100
We also have the water agency increase rate as well as our debt service that

1724
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:27,400
to the general fund for their portion of the UAL ADD.

1725
02:48:29,060 --> 02:48:29,720
Next slide.

1726
02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:34,720
For the sewer fund it is very much consistent with the water fund

1727
02:48:34,720 --> 02:48:38,160
where the revenues are increasing in line with the right study,

1728
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:41,840
no significant connection fees, couple projects.

1729
02:48:42,700 --> 02:48:45,820
We have the West-Year Avenue sewer replacement project,

1730
02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:48,620
and the changes in the operating expenditures

1731
02:48:49,080 --> 02:48:51,400
get that increase in the insurance,

1732
02:48:51,940 --> 02:48:54,600
the wastewater treatment, as well as that direct service

1733
02:48:54,600 --> 02:48:57,740
dock to the general fund of the UAL ADP.

1734
02:48:59,450 --> 02:48:59,950
Next slide.

1735
02:49:01,790 --> 02:49:05,930
So in conclusion, the proposed fiscal year 2233 budget

1736
02:49:05,930 --> 02:49:10,250
really prioritize our goals and objectives of community engagement,

1737
02:49:10,610 --> 02:49:16,450
on-term vitality, bus and class service, and we hope to include more goals as our budget

1738
02:49:16,450 --> 02:49:21,290
rolls out more. We'll continue to strive to implement more actions for climate change

1739
02:49:21,290 --> 02:49:26,870
inequality. We have a balanced operating budget and requirement for each one of the general

1740
02:49:26,870 --> 02:49:34,910
fund operating as well as water and sewer. The upgrades that it's just do not exceed the

1741
02:49:34,910 --> 02:49:37,210
are really estimated operating revenues.

1742
02:49:38,210 --> 02:49:41,450
We have significant investments and deferred capital projects.

1743
02:49:41,570 --> 02:49:44,550
I mean, talking about over $10 million in the streets

1744
02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:47,350
is a lot of effort in the single year.

1745
02:49:48,630 --> 02:49:53,190
So even with that, we feel like this is a fiscally prudent budget

1746
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:59,470
with general fund reserves up to $35, excuse me, 53%.

1747
02:49:59,470 --> 02:50:02,530
So staff are really committed to continuing

1748
02:50:02,530 --> 02:50:09,030
to exercise prudence and integrity and provide as much transparency and accountability and I think

1749
02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:14,170
that's a good reflection of the huge amount of work that the Administrative Services Department

1750
02:50:14,170 --> 02:50:20,070
did and generating this budget and making sure it was online and available and now could be

1751
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:26,230
something that anyone can go through and review and see the detail on how we got to the numbers

1752
02:50:26,230 --> 02:50:28,310
that we did. Next slide,

1753
02:50:31,020 --> 02:50:34,400
please. Tonight we're looking for the adoption of the resolution adopting

1754
02:50:34,400 --> 02:50:39,840
In the fiscal year 2223 budget, as well as the updated multi-year capital improvement plan,

1755
02:50:40,160 --> 02:50:42,840
and I'm fully happy to take any questions.

1756
02:51:06,740 --> 02:51:07,660
We lose our mayor.

1757
02:51:11,160 --> 02:51:12,900
It appears that we have.

1758
02:51:13,240 --> 02:51:13,880
Oops, here he comes.

1759
02:51:14,200 --> 02:51:15,020
Can you hear me okay?

1760
02:51:15,220 --> 02:51:16,860
Sorry about that.

1761
02:51:17,640 --> 02:51:21,900
So I'm not sure where I dropped off, but it seems to have picked me back up.

1762
02:51:22,020 --> 02:51:26,120
So I was saying, I saw no cops, no questions come up from the council.

1763
02:51:26,740 --> 02:51:27,600
I believe that's correct.

1764
02:51:28,520 --> 02:51:30,940
So this is a perfect time to go to public comment if we could.

1765
02:51:34,120 --> 02:51:38,840
Thank you, Mayor Landman. If you'd like to make a public comment, please use the raise hand icon.

1766
02:51:44,980 --> 02:51:46,880
Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

1767
02:51:49,040 --> 02:51:51,740
All right, I'll bring it back to the council and see if there's any final comments.

1768
02:51:51,980 --> 02:51:54,580
And I should do see a hand from councilmember Moore.

1769
02:51:55,220 --> 02:51:56,160
Thank you, Mayor Landman.

1770
02:51:56,540 --> 02:51:58,720
I'm Angela, thank you for their comprehensive budget.

1771
02:51:59,180 --> 02:52:05,880
I really appreciated the narratives that started on the 400s somewhere around there.

1772
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:09,540
But those were good because I kind of goes into what the philosophy is, what we're trying to do.

1773
02:52:09,540 --> 02:52:11,340
So I thought that was excellent work on there.

1774
02:52:12,520 --> 02:52:16,720
I do have a question, and I don't know if this is the appropriate venue for that, but I'm wondering

1775
02:52:18,260 --> 02:52:24,360
what it would take to increase our spending on code enforcement.

1776
02:52:26,160 --> 02:52:27,560
And all that might be addressed.

1777
02:52:31,540 --> 02:52:41,060
I don't know if there was an item that needed to be brought, just like any budget amendment,

1778
02:52:41,060 --> 02:52:46,760
When we have a specific contract in mind, if we have a significant effort in mind, we do bring

1779
02:52:46,760 --> 02:52:53,780
those to council for that budget amendment, as I've talked about in that budget process.

1780
02:52:54,280 --> 02:52:58,480
So if there is something significant, then that's what we would bring to council through staff

1781
02:52:59,160 --> 02:53:04,800
and do that budget amendment at that time to make sure they have the appropriate resources for what

1782
02:53:04,800 --> 02:53:06,200
need to operate.

1783
02:53:07,040 --> 02:53:09,300
And yeah, I would just add to that.

1784
02:53:10,260 --> 02:53:13,620
So if there's, you know, if there's specific concerns that the council has,

1785
02:53:14,020 --> 02:53:18,000
then we can look into what the issue is and we can report back.

1786
02:53:18,120 --> 02:53:20,800
Is it a budgetary issue or is there some other?

1787
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:22,860
If you look later.

1788
02:53:24,600 --> 02:53:25,480
Thank you.

1789
02:53:25,780 --> 02:53:27,860
And again, excellent work on that.

1790
02:53:31,320 --> 02:53:32,500
Thank you, Mr. Moore.

1791
02:53:32,800 --> 02:53:34,560
Councilmember Vice Mayor Harvey, I see you next.

1792
02:53:34,720 --> 02:53:36,500
I also see Councilmember Sparks hand up.

1793
02:53:36,500 --> 02:53:39,080
So we'll go Vice Mayor and Councilmember.

1794
02:53:40,000 --> 02:53:41,220
I thank you very much.

1795
02:53:41,600 --> 02:53:45,240
Again, Angela is a wonderful budget to took me hours and hours

1796
02:53:45,240 --> 02:53:46,280
to go through it.

1797
02:53:46,420 --> 02:53:48,180
I really appreciate the details.

1798
02:53:48,400 --> 02:53:50,740
I hope others appreciate them too.

1799
02:53:51,220 --> 02:53:53,980
I particularly like in each of the sections,

1800
02:53:54,280 --> 02:53:55,900
you don't just present it one way.

1801
02:53:56,040 --> 02:53:57,620
You present it multiple ways

1802
02:53:57,620 --> 02:54:00,320
because I know sometimes people get it one way,

1803
02:54:00,540 --> 02:54:01,420
but not the other.

1804
02:54:01,800 --> 02:54:04,260
So I find that very helpful.

1805
02:54:04,260 --> 02:54:34,240
And I really like the section with the capital projects because it gives you a visual, it gives you a description, it gives you the year, it gives you, you know, the maintenance, where the funding is coming from it. And I think that that's really helpful for many folks that that wonder what it is that we're doing with all these funds and how it is that we're trying to improve our community as best we can with the funds that we can.

1806
02:54:34,240 --> 02:54:41,200
have so I really appreciate the budget. So thank you if I can jump in real quick I would love to

1807
02:54:41,200 --> 02:54:48,460
take credit for the capital project section at the budget but I cannot Craig and his staff

1808
02:54:48,460 --> 02:54:55,080
works at tremendous amount in our software in order to build that and we absolutely ding in

1809
02:54:55,080 --> 02:55:01,240
I review it go through it make sure you know everything's appropriate and budgeted for but they did an

1810
02:55:01,240 --> 02:55:07,340
job and I can't I definitely have to credit my staff as well for the amazing detail around the whole

1811
02:55:07,340 --> 02:55:12,640
budget because it as much as detail there is in there it takes more than one sort of I so

1812
02:55:12,640 --> 02:55:18,340
Neil absolutely worked a lot especially with the rest of the department heads and making sure

1813
02:55:18,340 --> 02:55:26,680
that everything was with as well put together as we possibly could so well you know my thanks extended

1814
02:55:26,680 --> 02:55:32,780
to all the staff that had a finger in it because it's very well received. Thank you.

1815
02:55:34,520 --> 02:55:36,960
Thank you, Vice Mayor Harvey. Council Member Sparks.

1816
02:55:37,960 --> 02:55:42,880
Thank you. I'll echo what my colleagues are saying just to really appreciate the amazing attention

1817
02:55:42,880 --> 02:55:47,780
to detail and it's all really clear and I'm always wondering why that pictures and the council

1818
02:55:47,780 --> 02:55:53,640
members are in the budget. I think your picture ought to be in there and the people who actually

1819
02:55:53,640 --> 02:55:56,120
did a really hard work on it.

1820
02:55:56,280 --> 02:55:58,260
Anyway, I did have one questions,

1821
02:55:58,280 --> 02:56:02,260
I've comment for the city manager's office.

1822
02:56:02,740 --> 02:56:05,480
I was looking at the list of projects or objectives

1823
02:56:05,480 --> 02:56:08,760
on packet page for 60.

1824
02:56:09,540 --> 02:56:14,520
And I had been hoping to see a study to assess

1825
02:56:14,520 --> 02:56:18,580
our digital infrastructure, including broadband coverage

1826
02:56:18,580 --> 02:56:19,940
and cell phone reception.

1827
02:56:20,320 --> 02:56:22,760
So something we had discussed during strategic planning.

1828
02:56:22,760 --> 02:56:27,760
And I see it sort of missing from this list so I wondered if we could just put that back on there.

1829
02:56:28,680 --> 02:56:30,760
I don't know if Damian wants to answer that.

1830
02:56:32,440 --> 02:56:32,820
Very, yeah.

1831
02:56:32,980 --> 02:56:38,520
Just to be planning, we had a talk about looking into that.

1832
02:56:38,740 --> 02:56:43,360
And we hadn't really been fully formed as to what that would be,

1833
02:56:43,460 --> 02:56:47,960
but looking into the broadband coverage and katality and whatever that means,

1834
02:56:48,220 --> 02:56:51,660
in terms of studies or staff effort.

1835
02:56:51,660 --> 02:57:01,700
There has been, there is some general budget aside for whatever that might be, but

1836
02:57:02,360 --> 02:57:05,000
it's a longer answer than you probably wanted.

1837
02:57:05,520 --> 02:57:08,340
It's asked if you could add it and I'm sure it's easy enough.

1838
02:57:09,940 --> 02:57:17,920
Yeah, I guess the way I had been envisioning whatever it might be would be to figure out how to do some sort of assessments.

1839
02:57:17,920 --> 02:57:25,220
So we could have a baseline of where we're at today in terms of are there inequities in

1840
02:57:26,120 --> 02:57:31,740
which neighborhoods have good broadband coverage, which I mean I've heard of businesses

1841
02:57:32,240 --> 02:57:38,680
leaving Katati because they don't have sufficient high quality broadband things like that.

1842
02:57:39,720 --> 02:57:46,380
And certainly as I was campaigning for City Council, a number of constituents expressed

1843
02:57:46,380 --> 02:57:50,400
me that they're really concerned about the poor cell phone coverage and that it's an issue during

1844
02:57:50,400 --> 02:57:58,200
a wildfire emergency. So, yeah, I was looking for just because you said whatever that may be,

1845
02:57:58,380 --> 02:58:01,860
what I thought we had discussed as strategic planning was doing some kind of assessment.

1846
02:58:03,660 --> 02:58:07,000
So, yeah, if we could put that back on the list, that would address my concerns.

1847
02:58:12,290 --> 02:58:17,190
That's absolutely a part of the resolution is to make those those small changes to the budget,

1848
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:21,970
So we can find the final language with TNN and I'm going to add that in.

1849
02:58:22,350 --> 02:58:24,170
Thank you.

1850
02:58:24,690 --> 02:58:25,450
All right.

1851
02:58:25,570 --> 02:58:26,970
We'll see if there's any more questions.

1852
02:58:27,090 --> 02:58:28,350
I'm not seeing any.

1853
02:58:28,410 --> 02:58:29,750
I will just share my call.

1854
02:58:30,370 --> 02:58:34,950
It's a presentation for the detailed and certainly for the varied ways of looking at this data.

1855
02:58:35,130 --> 02:58:36,190
And I agree that is helpful.

1856
02:58:36,650 --> 02:58:38,270
But one thing that really jumps out for me too,

1857
02:58:38,370 --> 02:58:40,650
that I know we've moved in the stress for the last few years.

1858
02:58:40,790 --> 02:58:45,390
And I think to an even greater degree this year is that it really detailed history.

1859
02:58:46,090 --> 02:58:52,650
I think you asked perhaps a person from the outside would say, why do you need a history of the community with the budget?

1860
02:58:52,970 --> 02:59:01,750
But for somehow, for me, I think it really really provides a great context for the community and it helps you understand why we have the budget we have and how we got here.

1861
02:59:02,010 --> 02:59:08,430
And so I just think all of that together as a document may be indeed a very long read, but it's a very valuable one.

1862
02:59:08,610 --> 02:59:12,810
So again, thanks to you and everybody who had a hand in this document we appreciate it.

1863
02:59:12,810 --> 02:59:20,390
So with that, if I have no more commentary questions for any of my colleagues, I would be looking for a motion then to adopt this resolution to me.

1864
02:59:20,670 --> 02:59:21,990
And I see a hand from Vice-Mahadi.

1865
02:59:22,750 --> 02:59:33,610
I would be very happy to make motion that we adopt the resolution approving the city of Katadi fiscal budget for fiscal year 2022.

1866
02:59:33,610 --> 02:59:41,110
23 and the corresponding updated multi-year capital improvement plans and incorporating

1867
02:59:41,110 --> 02:59:50,490
Council Member Sparks' comments on the assessment for coverage for broadband and self-service.

1868
02:59:52,330 --> 02:59:54,430
Thank you, Vice Mayor Harvey. Do we have a second for that?

1869
02:59:56,380 --> 02:59:57,960
Thank you.

1870
02:59:58,520 --> 02:59:59,880
Ask everybody not to be shy.

1871
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,380
Thank you, Council Member Sparks. Very good. All right. So we have a first and second. Can we have a roll call, though, please?

1872
03:00:07,750 --> 03:00:08,850
Council Member Ford.

1873
03:00:09,690 --> 03:00:16,570
Yes. Council Member Moore. Yes. Council Member Sparks. Yes.

1874
03:00:17,650 --> 03:00:27,410
Vice Mayor Harvey. Yes. Mayor Landman. Yes. So that carries unanimously. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, staff again for this tonight.

1875
03:00:27,410 --> 03:00:30,990
and we'll move on to our last item on our regular agenda,

1876
03:00:31,670 --> 03:00:34,510
item C, which is a letter of support for SB 940.

1877
03:00:34,790 --> 03:00:36,670
And this is written by City Manager O'Bid.

1878
03:00:37,590 --> 03:00:38,710
Yes, thank you, Mayor.

1879
03:00:38,730 --> 03:00:41,250
I remember the help of first off.

1880
03:00:41,390 --> 03:00:44,890
I just want to correct something real quick.

1881
03:00:45,530 --> 03:00:49,050
At a moment of dyslexia, I think I said SB 49E on the title.

1882
03:00:49,230 --> 03:00:51,270
It's actually SB 940.

1883
03:00:52,490 --> 03:00:55,790
So, yeah, so apologies about that.

1884
03:00:56,330 --> 03:01:04,310
So, real quick, from background, I did, you know, normally we've got in with Calcities on what

1885
03:01:04,310 --> 03:01:10,570
the position is on various kind of legislation, they had, when in advance to this Council

1886
03:01:10,570 --> 03:01:18,350
meeting we had checked in with them and asked them, well, they had had basically a watch position,

1887
03:01:18,490 --> 03:01:22,670
which means they haven't taken the position either way, but I did check in with Calcities

1888
03:01:22,670 --> 03:01:25,390
and they said that they supported it,

1889
03:01:25,390 --> 03:01:27,970
they just hadn't gotten to drafting the position

1890
03:01:27,970 --> 03:01:29,730
letter on this particular piece of legislation.

1891
03:01:31,210 --> 03:01:33,890
So this is way of background that is for Calth

1892
03:01:33,890 --> 03:01:35,110
that he stands on this.

1893
03:01:35,570 --> 03:01:38,970
And with regard to the proposed legislation,

1894
03:01:40,910 --> 03:01:43,490
existing state law exempt, new mobile

1895
03:01:43,490 --> 03:01:46,850
and part construction from rent control.

1896
03:01:48,210 --> 03:01:50,670
And this is enacted by the state back in 1989.

1897
03:01:52,310 --> 03:01:58,430
And basically, what it did is it defined new construction is a space, space initially held out for rent,

1898
03:01:59,170 --> 03:02:01,750
on or after January 1st, 1990s.

1899
03:02:02,970 --> 03:02:10,010
So any spaces basically held out for rent after that date, initially held out for rent after that date,

1900
03:02:10,070 --> 03:02:18,890
in 1990, would be exempt from our mobile home rent control in any other city in California

1901
03:02:18,890 --> 03:02:25,710
that has a rent control over into the mobile markets. So this law, I'm going to propose a lot and

1902
03:02:25,710 --> 03:02:34,070
correct that by the obvious inequity that that would create mobile parks because new construction

1903
03:02:34,850 --> 03:02:47,650
because it was fixed by 1990, spaces or parks are still considered new even if there are more than

1904
03:02:48,730 --> 03:02:52,650
So the proposed bill would add a new definition of a term,

1905
03:02:53,770 --> 03:02:56,430
new, which is called new mobile-owned park construction,

1906
03:02:56,950 --> 03:02:59,690
which would apply to all new parks held out for rent

1907
03:02:59,690 --> 03:03:03,430
on or after January 1, 2023, and these new parks

1908
03:03:03,430 --> 03:03:06,690
would be exempted from local rent stability ordinances

1909
03:03:06,690 --> 03:03:09,330
for 10 years in order to allow

1910
03:03:09,330 --> 03:03:12,750
owners to recover initial investment costs and

1911
03:03:12,750 --> 03:03:15,630
determine appropriate rent levels, but then when new spaces are added

1912
03:03:15,630 --> 03:03:19,110
20, but if new spaces are added to any existing mobile

1913
03:03:19,110 --> 03:03:22,330
home park, they would be immediately eligible and subject

1914
03:03:22,330 --> 03:03:23,050
to rent control.

1915
03:03:24,810 --> 03:03:28,470
So in a nutshell, that's what this proposed legislation

1916
03:03:28,470 --> 03:03:34,470
would do is it would remove the exemption for existing spaces

1917
03:03:34,990 --> 03:03:38,070
and any new mobile home parks that are created.

1918
03:03:38,250 --> 03:03:40,590
It would give the owners without part 10 years

1919
03:03:40,590 --> 03:03:42,510
to recoup their initial investment costs

1920
03:03:42,510 --> 03:03:44,810
and we'd be subject to rent control.

1921
03:03:47,030 --> 03:03:54,810
And attached, you also have a letter from local resident regarding this proposed legislation.

1922
03:03:56,090 --> 03:04:04,400
And if the council adopts a motion authorizing the mayor to send out a letter and support of this bill,

1923
03:04:05,420 --> 03:04:10,180
then the support letter I'd imagine would be very similar in contents to the one that was attached.

1924
03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:16,620
But I would be happy to answer any questions the council hasn't.

1925
03:04:16,840 --> 03:04:17,080
All right.

1926
03:04:17,280 --> 03:04:18,540
I'll see if there's anybody on the council.

1927
03:04:18,740 --> 03:04:20,420
Has any questions for Mr. O'Bid?

1928
03:04:22,960 --> 03:04:25,120
Not seeing any hands at the moment.

1929
03:04:25,140 --> 03:04:27,800
I do see a hand from council member Moore.

1930
03:04:28,740 --> 03:04:28,820
Thank you.

1931
03:04:30,180 --> 03:04:32,720
Thank you, Damien, for that information on that presentation.

1932
03:04:33,000 --> 03:04:36,960
There's one clear clarification that I was hoping to get.

1933
03:04:38,040 --> 03:04:42,800
And in the background, when we talked about due to a court settlement agreement,

1934
03:04:43,480 --> 03:04:48,960
rent stabilization was placed on the ballot, then was ultimately repealed ear incudality.

1935
03:04:50,900 --> 03:04:53,920
I was not aware that that was actually from a court settlement.

1936
03:04:54,360 --> 03:05:02,000
Land of sending is in the existing council at the time with the urging of some landlords,

1937
03:05:02,000 --> 03:05:09,020
But that fact on the ballot, in 1819, in 1988, or whatever the year was, in 1998.

1938
03:05:11,420 --> 03:05:12,560
Why are you familiar with that?

1939
03:05:14,920 --> 03:05:21,140
I'm familiar with, you know, what you described as being the reason, just in preparing the staff report,

1940
03:05:21,480 --> 03:05:23,760
in the ordinance and their mobile home rent control ordinance.

1941
03:05:24,680 --> 03:05:31,680
There's a prologue to the actual legislation that describes kind of how the mobile home rent

1942
03:05:31,680 --> 03:05:39,740
Stabilization ordinance came to be, and that was just the language that's in the staff report was just lifted from that. I don't I don't know if that's correct or not

1943
03:05:40,920 --> 03:05:45,020
That's was in the ordinance language. It's like a recital essential

1944
03:05:45,020 --> 03:05:50,020
We're in and this one was near and dear to my heart because at the time I was

1945
03:05:50,020 --> 03:05:57,340
campaigning to not repeal the rent control and of course now we're in a situation. We have now without it

1946
03:05:58,100 --> 03:05:59,900
Thank you for the clarification on that

1947
03:06:01,620 --> 03:06:02,020
Yeah.

1948
03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:12,620
Let's see. Thank you, Mr. Moore. All right. Let's go to public

1949
03:06:12,620 --> 03:06:14,340
columnist and we'll bring it back.

1950
03:06:17,290 --> 03:06:19,790
If you'd like to make a public comment, please use your

1951
03:06:19,790 --> 03:06:20,970
raise hand icon.

1952
03:06:26,850 --> 03:06:28,730
Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

1953
03:06:41,400 --> 03:06:42,380
I believe you're muted.

1954
03:06:49,980 --> 03:06:50,420
Every time I

1955
03:06:50,420 --> 03:06:55,060
grab the phone to stop it from falling over a movie page, it seems to want to mute it so. Apologies

1956
03:06:55,060 --> 03:06:59,700
and thank you. All right, so I'll try and make this quick. Basically, the reason I asked for this comes

1957
03:06:59,700 --> 03:07:07,200
tonight. It was simply to correct a 30-year-old loophole and provide the protections that we all

1958
03:07:07,200 --> 03:07:12,000
intended to happen here. So that was the goal here. One additional piece of information I

1959
03:07:12,000 --> 03:07:18,420
can give the council to back up this city manager's presentation is that we did revisit this

1960
03:07:19,240 --> 03:07:27,240
last week. I believe on our last lecture and the last Friday and we did agree to send unanimously

1961
03:07:27,240 --> 03:07:29,520
to send a letter support for SB 940.

1962
03:07:30,840 --> 03:07:32,560
So that is happening as well.

1963
03:07:32,960 --> 03:07:35,120
So I thought I would just share that,

1964
03:07:35,120 --> 03:07:37,520
but without I thought it would be a good direction for this.

1965
03:07:37,960 --> 03:07:40,660
So let's see if we have anybody else that has any comments

1966
03:07:40,660 --> 03:07:42,160
or questions in this.

1967
03:07:43,820 --> 03:07:45,240
And I'm not seeing any perhaps.

1968
03:07:45,260 --> 03:07:48,200
And if anybody willing to make a motion on this.

1969
03:07:51,480 --> 03:07:54,000
I would move to adopt a motion,

1970
03:07:54,200 --> 03:07:57,440
authorizing the mayor to send a letter of support

1971
03:07:57,440 --> 03:08:00,500
for SB 940.

1972
03:08:01,380 --> 03:08:02,020
Thank you.

1973
03:08:02,740 --> 03:08:05,220
Thank you, Vice Mayor Harvey, and thank you, Councillor

1974
03:08:05,220 --> 03:08:05,600
Moore.

1975
03:08:06,240 --> 03:08:10,260
And I would also ask perhaps if we do wind up revisiting in the future

1976
03:08:10,260 --> 03:08:12,840
as I'd asked earlier, our ordinance.

1977
03:08:13,600 --> 03:08:16,320
Perhaps we can clean up that language, because I think Mister Morris

1978
03:08:16,320 --> 03:08:19,460
point about remembering the past is important, because we learned from it

1979
03:08:19,460 --> 03:08:21,260
and informed what happens in the future.

1980
03:08:21,920 --> 03:08:23,420
So with that, we do have a motion.

1981
03:08:23,600 --> 03:08:24,240
We have a second.

1982
03:08:24,560 --> 03:08:25,860
Can we have a roll call, vote please.

1983
03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:28,540
Council Member Ford.

1984
03:08:29,260 --> 03:08:29,640
Yes.

1985
03:08:30,500 --> 03:08:32,100
Council Member Moore.

1986
03:08:32,880 --> 03:08:33,460
Yes.

1987
03:08:33,760 --> 03:08:40,440
And I would also hope that we would support this further down the road in assisting these residents.

1988
03:08:41,460 --> 03:08:43,120
Thank you.

1989
03:08:43,340 --> 03:08:44,220
Council Member Sparks.

1990
03:08:45,240 --> 03:08:45,540
Yes.

1991
03:08:46,580 --> 03:08:47,380
Vice Mayor Harvey.

1992
03:08:48,500 --> 03:08:48,620
Yes.

1993
03:08:49,160 --> 03:08:50,000
Mayor Landman.

1994
03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:56,340
I definitely yes. Thank you, Council, for your support on that. So we're moving forward.

1995
03:08:56,500 --> 03:09:03,720
We have completed our regular agenda. We are now to the city manager's report. Mr. O'Bid, the floor is yours.

1996
03:09:04,460 --> 03:09:11,280
All right. Thank you, Mayor. Members of the council. Well, since we won't be, well, we will be technically

1997
03:09:11,280 --> 03:09:16,460
meeting before the fourth, but the last city regular city council meeting before the fourth. Just

1998
03:09:16,460 --> 03:09:23,680
I remind you that it is dry out there and all fireworks are illegal in Katati.

1999
03:09:24,700 --> 03:09:30,260
So we're going to be continuing to push out that message and advance to the Fourth of July

2000
03:09:30,260 --> 03:09:34,920
because we definitely do not want to start any fires in our neighborhoods.

2001
03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:45,260
And then just to let the Council know, we are currently one of the, just talking about

2002
03:09:45,260 --> 03:09:50,650
of projects one of the street projects is a street preservation project and that's bidding right now

2003
03:09:51,700 --> 03:09:58,300
for later this summer. So we'll be having some street preservation work going on around the city

2004
03:09:58,300 --> 03:10:05,720
with the Council of Cruz the agreement later in the year. The pocket part can begin as March

2005
03:10:05,720 --> 03:10:13,140
Pathway project is underway and we expect construction to start probably in July and as you know

2006
03:10:13,140 --> 03:10:16,580
that's the new pathways from McGinnis to Marching Hands,

2007
03:10:16,900 --> 03:10:19,500
Lincoln, for the bridge that goes to Lincoln.

2008
03:10:20,120 --> 03:10:23,540
And then, making some improvements to the pocket park area,

2009
03:10:23,700 --> 03:10:26,980
putting benches, followed by its bottle, water fillings

2010
03:10:26,980 --> 03:10:30,000
station, and some pathways there.

2011
03:10:31,850 --> 03:10:35,210
We also have the Urban Ag ordinance,

2012
03:10:35,350 --> 03:10:37,890
or Urban Agricultural Ordinance, as you all know,

2013
03:10:37,990 --> 03:10:39,610
coming up on Thursday at some workshop,

2014
03:10:40,550 --> 03:10:42,770
just to get input from the Council on the Community,

2015
03:10:42,770 --> 03:10:49,310
in that 7 p.m. This Thursday, June 30th, that agenda is also published to anyone who's interested in that.

2016
03:10:50,730 --> 03:10:55,290
And then, kids days coming up on July 9th, and this year's theme is Peace Love and Katani,

2017
03:10:55,490 --> 03:11:00,030
where we're celebrating the 60s decade in all things, peace science, music, and lots of tide

2018
03:11:00,030 --> 03:11:05,290
eyes. So if you have any tide, you can break it out for that day. And it's going to start as usual with

2019
03:11:05,290 --> 03:11:09,730
three pancake breakfasted church of the Oaks, and we'll grade it through downtown. A talent show,

2020
03:11:09,730 --> 03:11:16,910
other live entertainment and our famous diaper, derby, and via, winning with a winning

2021
03:11:16,910 --> 03:11:23,450
baby gets the Katati Crawl onesie and has a much sought after piece of clothing for babies,

2022
03:11:24,450 --> 03:11:28,670
fighting contest relay races and a lot of different vendors and lots of things for kids.

2023
03:11:30,770 --> 03:11:36,290
Also just to save some saved the dates, first markets, it's always as early underway on Wednesdays,

2024
03:11:36,290 --> 03:11:43,070
June 2, September 4, 30, 2, 7, 30 at La Clause of Park. Just last weekend, the chamber held the

2025
03:11:43,070 --> 03:11:45,790
Kentucky Music Festival in the park, and I heard that.

2026
03:11:49,310 --> 03:11:53,150
We also have so-called markets,

2027
03:11:54,650 --> 03:12:00,510
which we've already had two of them this year, and another one coming up in August. National

2028
03:12:00,510 --> 03:12:05,710
night out's coming up in August 2nd. The accordion festival August 20th to 21st.

2029
03:12:07,350 --> 03:12:11,490
We have movie nights in the park. The next one coming up is the longest second of national

2030
03:12:11,490 --> 03:12:19,030
night out. And then also September 23rd. We have Katwati Kandilan trick or treat that we're

2031
03:12:19,030 --> 03:12:24,090
looking to schedule right now. And then of course the SBD and all of these the regular holiday events

2032
03:12:24,090 --> 03:12:28,650
in December. So all this is on the city website, but I'd encourage you to start

2033
03:12:28,650 --> 03:12:34,770
calendar in those days so that's if you are interested you can attend any of those.

2034
03:12:35,110 --> 03:12:39,650
We also are holding summer camp each week through August 11th.

2035
03:12:39,910 --> 03:12:43,650
If you have children that want to attend that camp sign up now.

2036
03:12:45,430 --> 03:12:48,990
And we're now in our second week of farm camp at the Ronald Fletty Ranch,

2037
03:12:49,770 --> 03:12:52,010
where children learn all about the farm and chores,

2038
03:12:52,650 --> 03:12:54,250
such as feeding and checking on animals,

2039
03:12:55,130 --> 03:12:59,270
We're looking at gardens, learning about free flowers, vegetables, and artwork.

2040
03:13:00,490 --> 03:13:04,950
We have tours of the Rhonda Fletty Ranch, each first and third Saturday through the summer

2041
03:13:04,950 --> 03:13:13,130
or starting at 10 a.m., and then we offer additional camps, including in concerto theater camp

2042
03:13:13,130 --> 03:13:18,310
and until the theater camp, in concerto themed gymnastics camp throughout the summer, and a variety

2043
03:13:18,310 --> 03:13:28,810
of Reprograms and Gooding Kids Pickleball, which is more and funny enough I, so it's kind

2044
03:13:28,810 --> 03:13:29,350
of tongue-to-cheek.

2045
03:13:29,510 --> 03:13:33,150
I joked so much of my wife about Pickleball being the fastest growing sport in the country

2046
03:13:33,150 --> 03:13:34,070
for Father's Day.

2047
03:13:34,130 --> 03:13:35,850
I got a Pickleball Paddle set.

2048
03:13:38,690 --> 03:13:45,630
Anyway, it serves me right for Joaquim Flower like that, so with that, I would be happy to answer

2049
03:13:45,630 --> 03:13:46,170
any questions.

2050
03:13:47,650 --> 03:14:00,370
Well, I'll be the first to congratulate you the city manager a little bit and your new application of being the pickle ball wizard that congratulations on that we'll see if we have any questions from the council.

2051
03:14:02,830 --> 03:14:04,130
No one not even with a pickle ball.

2052
03:14:05,230 --> 03:14:05,730
All right.

2053
03:14:06,070 --> 03:14:07,530
Thank you tonight Mr. Ovid.

2054
03:14:08,330 --> 03:14:11,670
That brings us to our next item which is city council member reports.

2055
03:14:12,050 --> 03:14:14,930
And I'll see if any of my colleagues have anything to report out for us tonight.

2056
03:14:18,290 --> 03:14:43,070
I have a couple of things one. I attended the A-Bag Annual Meeting where the budget was approved and they were able to approve the budget and get it as balanced as they could but they do have some structural deficit issues that they will be working on and they have to resolve those.

2057
03:14:43,070 --> 03:14:49,450
more to come on that, but that was interesting. The second thing was the Snow County

2058
03:14:49,450 --> 03:14:56,870
Waste Management Agency meeting. This is kind of important for everyone as everyone knows.

2059
03:15:03,740 --> 03:15:17,000
We have been unable to get another vendor that's been willing to do that. And then we were approached this last week by

2060
03:15:17,000 --> 03:15:25,320
whole Creek Compost who is having business difficulties and are at risk of also closing.

2061
03:15:26,760 --> 03:15:33,100
And as you might imagine with all of the pressure being put on us because of SB 1383,

2062
03:15:33,940 --> 03:15:42,960
we and that's the collective we in the state of California cannot really lose any more composting

2063
03:15:42,960 --> 03:15:50,780
facilities because they're hard. Once you lose them, they're very hard to get back, like many

2064
03:15:50,780 --> 03:15:57,280
things. So anyways, we were approached by them. We've been working with them since the 90s.

2065
03:15:59,400 --> 03:16:08,400
They have kept their rates very low for us and they've asked for a midterm contract adjustment

2066
03:16:08,400 --> 03:16:31,660
to move their fees. Originally they had asked us for much more. They had originally asked us right now they're at $41 and they wanted us to look at increasing to $66 and we basically said no, that's above the state average and above what we're paying for everything else.

2067
03:16:31,660 --> 03:16:34,800
And so at the very last minute, they came back in and said,

2068
03:16:35,500 --> 03:16:42,860
could we go as high as 47, which we will have staff working with them.

2069
03:16:42,920 --> 03:16:46,460
We could not approve that because we didn't have that.

2070
03:16:46,900 --> 03:16:50,760
But they are looking to shore up their business plan

2071
03:16:50,760 --> 03:16:56,700
and they're working with Cal Recycle to look for funding

2072
03:16:56,700 --> 03:16:59,020
in some other areas.

2073
03:16:59,020 --> 03:17:07,440
Apparently, they got hit pretty bad with some of the collapse of the cannabis because they

2074
03:17:07,440 --> 03:17:16,420
provided a lot of their compost material to the growers so they lost a big portion of where

2075
03:17:16,420 --> 03:17:26,280
they sell their compost. So it doesn't long-term help them if we go down this road to approve

2076
03:17:26,280 --> 03:17:34,360
them for that increase but it's important since we have such a long relationship with them.

2077
03:17:34,400 --> 03:17:43,500
And the difference in this rate is really neutral for the rate pairs because if we had

2078
03:17:43,500 --> 03:17:50,480
to take what's going there and send it to either Napa or Redwood landfill, we would pay

2079
03:17:50,480 --> 03:18:12,380
more in transportation costs. So it's kind of a net wash from a rate pair perspective. So we will be looking at that at our next meeting, but I thought you should all be aware of that because it really does impact our ability to have a composting facility that we can send our stuff to.

2080
03:18:12,380 --> 03:18:27,300
We have good staff at the agency that has been able to work within the contracts we have in case they do go under so that we have capacity at the other facilities.

2081
03:18:27,720 --> 03:18:34,260
So they've done a great job with that, but I thought you should all know about that. Sorry for the longness, but I thought you should be aware.

2082
03:18:35,920 --> 03:18:36,940
Thank you, Vice Mayor.

2083
03:18:37,060 --> 03:18:41,340
I know that's an important one in concerning to hear.

2084
03:18:41,760 --> 03:18:41,980
Yeah.

2085
03:18:42,560 --> 03:18:44,000
It was very concerning.

2086
03:18:45,100 --> 03:18:46,080
Yeah, no, I can imagine.

2087
03:18:46,880 --> 03:18:49,520
You certainly have some difficult jobs in some of your assignments.

2088
03:18:50,560 --> 03:18:52,100
I appreciate what you do.

2089
03:18:52,940 --> 03:18:54,680
Let's see if anybody else has anything first tonight.

2090
03:18:54,840 --> 03:18:57,040
I'm not seeing any hands go up right away.

2091
03:18:57,060 --> 03:18:58,660
So I do have one great thing to mention.

2092
03:18:59,580 --> 03:19:04,240
I was invited on the 22nd to virtually attend a safe city's

2093
03:19:04,240 --> 03:19:09,380
joint announcement, a rollout of fuel that highlighted some of the new policies related to

2094
03:19:09,380 --> 03:19:10,260
gas station being.

2095
03:19:10,660 --> 03:19:15,360
So, as we discussed tonight and begun enacting, so is there a long with mayors and

2096
03:19:15,360 --> 03:19:15,760
representatives?

2097
03:19:16,160 --> 03:19:17,400
Of course, we're sitting on the county.

2098
03:19:17,760 --> 03:19:18,860
You know, this started here.

2099
03:19:19,100 --> 03:19:25,140
I kicked off almost out of the blue in Petaluma and then moved to our cities.

2100
03:19:25,460 --> 03:19:28,060
But it's actually going other places now.

2101
03:19:28,160 --> 03:19:29,680
We had representatives from LA.

2102
03:19:30,060 --> 03:19:31,320
We're looking at this.

2103
03:19:31,320 --> 03:19:34,760
Bethlehem, New York, is taking a look at this British Columbia.

2104
03:19:35,060 --> 03:19:39,720
We had a representative from Lomox, Italy, a regional district who was there.

2105
03:19:40,680 --> 03:19:42,840
So it seems to be game-quieted grounds.

2106
03:19:42,860 --> 03:19:46,900
We know here in Sonoma, we have had a Luma-Rowner Park,

2107
03:19:47,020 --> 03:19:51,560
Sebastopol, now Cotati, with Santa Rosa and Windsor and Developed it.

2108
03:19:51,560 --> 03:19:54,840
So that's six of our nine cities, essentially on board already.

2109
03:19:55,640 --> 03:19:57,600
And I'm pretty hopeful that the others will follow.

2110
03:19:58,100 --> 03:20:00,400
The county might take longer because they just have a bigger

2111
03:20:00,400 --> 03:20:06,280
more complex problems to reassess this thoroughly and make sure they have adequately coverage

2112
03:20:06,280 --> 03:20:10,400
in every area of the county. So that's a little more challenging, but hopefully we'll

2113
03:20:10,400 --> 03:20:15,500
get everything there. So I just wanted to share that. And I did mention everybody I think

2114
03:20:15,500 --> 03:20:20,960
our colleague from Petaluma, the Linda Fisher, for essentially starting this idea through

2115
03:20:20,960 --> 03:20:24,920
her actions. And I did think council member Ford as well, and mentioned that he was the one

2116
03:20:24,920 --> 03:20:29,800
that brought this to our attention, at least asked for it first from the city council here. So

2117
03:20:29,800 --> 03:20:34,020
So that was a good thing overall, and I thought people might like to hear about it.

2118
03:20:34,580 --> 03:20:37,560
So with that, I see no other hands going up.

2119
03:20:38,980 --> 03:20:42,840
We will go, excuse me,

2120
03:20:45,220 --> 03:20:46,180
there we go.

2121
03:20:46,960 --> 03:20:50,420
That completes that and brings us to information.

2122
03:20:52,180 --> 03:20:52,620
Thank you.

2123
03:20:52,620 --> 03:20:53,240
John, remember more.

2124
03:20:53,440 --> 03:20:54,360
Has his hand up?

2125
03:20:54,880 --> 03:20:55,780
Thank you very much.

2126
03:20:55,900 --> 03:20:56,480
John, remember more.

2127
03:20:56,520 --> 03:20:57,160
Please go ahead.

2128
03:20:57,740 --> 03:20:58,140
Thank you.

2129
03:20:58,140 --> 03:21:00,100
I've gone from a response to their landmen.

2130
03:21:00,340 --> 03:21:02,560
I know you're having some technical issues,

2131
03:21:02,980 --> 03:21:06,020
but I just wanted to indicate that I did work

2132
03:21:06,020 --> 03:21:08,540
the Catanic Music Festival on Saturday,

2133
03:21:09,460 --> 03:21:12,400
and that was very well received and very successful.

2134
03:21:12,820 --> 03:21:15,200
So that was a good project, and that's all I wanted to add.

2135
03:21:15,320 --> 03:21:16,040
Thank you very much.

2136
03:21:17,120 --> 03:21:18,940
It's not that difficult, the problem is

2137
03:21:18,940 --> 03:21:21,120
I can either see your faces and the stuff in the screen

2138
03:21:21,120 --> 03:21:22,800
or the hands and your names.

2139
03:21:23,520 --> 03:21:25,160
So it's helpful if you have a comment,

2140
03:21:25,200 --> 03:21:27,300
get your hand up early, because I'll be able to see it

2141
03:21:27,300 --> 03:21:31,480
If I then go back to the screen for any reason, I can miss you, and fortunately too easily.

2142
03:21:32,540 --> 03:21:36,000
And since this happened twice this year, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens again.

2143
03:21:36,380 --> 03:21:41,380
I don't know what the internet gods are doing with my Wi-Fi reception, but fortunately the phone is working.

2144
03:21:42,220 --> 03:21:47,640
So with that, we will move now to public comment on non-action agenda items.

2145
03:21:50,170 --> 03:21:54,410
Thank you, Mayor Landman. If you would like to make a public comment, please use the raise hand icon.

2146
03:21:59,720 --> 03:22:01,500
Mayor Landman, that will end public comment.

2147
03:22:02,620 --> 03:22:08,240
Thank you, Mr. Patterson. All right. I'll ask the city manager for item 16. If we have any information,

2148
03:22:08,620 --> 03:22:10,580
received after the agenda was posted.

2149
03:22:12,220 --> 03:22:18,070
All the information that was posted after the agenda was initially posted is already been

2150
03:22:18,460 --> 03:22:21,320
the cut from the very bottom. So nothing else.

2151
03:22:21,520 --> 03:22:25,480
Excellent. Thank you, Mr. Obed. All right. Then this brings us to item 17.

2152
03:22:25,480 --> 03:22:32,380
of the German. So if without any objection, we are adjourned at 9.10 p.m. Thank you, everybody.

2153
03:22:32,920 --> 03:22:38,120
For your help in getting through a long evening, but a very good slate of work. And I look forward to seeing you all next time.

2154
03:22:38,320 --> 03:22:38,740
Good night.

2155
03:22:39,440 --> 03:22:43,920
Thank you, Mayor. 880 pages and just over three hours is pretty good.

2156
03:22:45,160 --> 03:22:48,520
I would think that would be a lot longer than that to read it.

2157
03:22:48,580 --> 03:22:49,180
Oh, yeah.

2158
03:22:49,180 --> 03:22:57,020
Yeah, no, it's time the consent takes on our agenda doesn't reflect what I'm saying to

2159
03:22:57,020 --> 03:22:57,220
me.

2160
03:22:58,220 --> 03:22:59,100
That's right.

2161
03:22:59,260 --> 03:22:59,960
Well, the good news.

2162
03:23:00,180 --> 03:23:03,900
This is the exception rather than the rule, we'll hold on to that positive hug.

2163
03:23:04,000 --> 03:23:04,780
Take care, everybody.

2164
03:23:05,440 --> 03:23:06,220
Goodnight, everyone.