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need to switch over to the next one, yes sir.

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I need to switch over

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to the next one.

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Doesn't matter.

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They'll need one more leave.

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I don't know what it means.

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thoughts was someone don't know where I actually thought thoughts are going to be very

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and I got the question on it too, thank you very

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much.

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At least the same, there's no concerns that we can walk out from under the rain,

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all the hospitals, but mine, mine, I've been turning that water runs down the hill.

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It's just going to drop, not coming.

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I'll talk it out.

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If I have to, I can't.

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I'd worry.

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Now that's why we're going to use a metal I saw everybody back in

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I got here and served my back in front of holding it. I need a room to get my paper agenda out of the car.

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There's a great thing, but it usually doesn't mean it.

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We

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are going to call this meeting to order.

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This is a special meeting of the Citrus County Restore Fun Acts, January 10th, 2017.

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If you would all rise with us today, the Commissioner Connard is going to give us the

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invitation.

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Dear Heavenly Father and Lord, we've come to you in prayer today.

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So thankful for the many blessings in our lives.

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Lord today, we're mindful of those, away from their families and the officers, yet again,

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We lose another one. We pray for those families who pray for our first responders. Lord we pray that

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you would be with us today as we do the business of citrus county. We pray that you'd help us to make

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decisions to better our community and Lord to benefit those who are here in that be your will. And Jesus

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name we pray and then pay them out. Everybody was face-of-five. I believe this is to

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provide on the United States of America and to the Republic for what is the same thing.

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One nation under God, the other one with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you, Commissioner

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John Alder, and with that we will go to your local.

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This is a special meeting of the

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2017, and attendance are Chairman Scott Karnahan, First Vice Chair Ronald Kichens Jr.

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Second Vice Chair, Jeff Canard, Commissioners Jimmy T. Smith, and Brian Coleman, County

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Administrator Randy Oliver, and County Attorney Denise Lynn.

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Thank you, Madam Clerk, and now I think what we'll do is what turn it over to our

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administrator, Randy Alver, and he will go through and discuss the pot 1, 5, 3, Mr.

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With that, sir.

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Yes, and I would note from the benefit of the public, the open of the public is at the end,

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so they had the opportunity to hear the presentations, and they were making a comment, and

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they wanted to relate to the various projects that are discussed.

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I think it's important, as we prepare for this, that we go back through the history of this,

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I would say, you know, this has not been done before by the federal government and not anything

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of this magnitude as a result, the rules, particularly on Part 3, continue to evolve over

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time and I expect them to change some more into the future.

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But I'll tell you what, you know, what's the issue, so you won't bring up the...

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Randy, do you want to let you go through the whole presentation, I think it'd be better for me

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go through the background and what happened and when we get to the end, we're going to start

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talking individual projects which we need input from the board as to the direction you'd

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like to go next slide. Okay, the the thing that's most pressing does right now is the

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restore committee is going to be meeting again in February. We do not think at this point they're

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ready to start. We have to take that to take all of the projects from the 23 counties and put

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them together under pot 3 and create a master plan. And then the master plan is going to require

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that be advertised in the federal register. They are trying to do this. We believe they're going to

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try to pull us together by April. It would be our guess. So, submission will probably have to be made in

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We're not convinced they're going to be able to stick to that timeframe based on history

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because they've been through this process a couple of times, but we don't know.

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But I think we have to be prepared to do that.

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Next slide.

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There are actually five pots to restore, which people don't always know.

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Three of the pots really do not apply to us.

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They apply to some of the other counties in Florida.

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Some of them are state pithes, like pithes for centers of excellence, and there were two or three

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that have been designated in the state for that particular part, but that's kind of a state

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part.

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The pithes that affect us the most are pith 1 and pith 3.

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Okay, the benefit to pith 1 and I'm not as concerned about pith 1 is pith 3 is that is actually

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written in the congressional record and in the legislation, and that money comes to us and

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if it sits there for a hundred years, absent a, you know, absent a new congressional bill

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at the federal level, that money will remain ours.

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We currently have 774,988 dollars in the bank.

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We have 3.5 million roughly that's going to come in over the next 15 years.

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So, the one thing is we go through this presentation, be cognizant of it, is that what we're

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talking to some big numbers being paid out over 15 years makes the value of those dollars

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today or less.

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Part three is the part that we need to pay the most attention to today, as I say with

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pot one, if we don't have the projects that we need in pot one, we can do that at a subsequent

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point, because we control our own destiny on that.

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We sought to go through the federal rules, which will include submitting to Treasury, which

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will have to also be down on POT 3, but the consortium is going to do that.

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Treasury will have to approve those projects, and it will have to be in keeping.

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But in POT 3, we're going to get about $12.4 million, we have zero at this point.

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The first payment is due this year, we'll get 115th per year, next slide.

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Okay. We are currently in the process where at the workshop ranking phase, the prior board

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made a ranking of projects and this gives you an opportunity to change that ranking

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all through the James Dean Fair. There have also been some subsequent events and the

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one subsequent event that we know of is that South West Florida Water Management was going to

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be the King's Bay Project and it was almost ten million dollars and we were going to fund

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about half of it, they were going to fund about half of it, they decided that they don't want to

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do that at this particular time. We again, this is again, this is for part three,

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We're looking to, you know, get the final ranking that we're going to submit. If we don't get completed the day, or if you want this one information, I think we've got a little bit of time.

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We can bring it back. We've tried to put on paper every subsequent idea that's come up since this was originally done.

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The one thing that I do want to note next slide.

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The one thing that I do want to note is that when pot 3 originally started in fairness to

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the prior board, it was viewed at that point that the process was going to be competitive.

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Okay, by competitive I mean the projects were going to be submitted and we were going to be competing

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against the other 23 counties.

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So there were a number of criteria that they felt would make projects more advantageous.

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stages. One was projects that benefited most of the counties or the most of the counties

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supported and endorsed. That subsequently, and I think this is a good thing, that

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subsequently went by the wayside and they decided to divide the 282 million in pot 3 and

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the 23 different pieces representing the 23 counties in the each county does their own. So

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everybody gets 12 million four over 15 years.

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What I am a little bit cautious about is that when they put all these planes together,

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I'm concerned somebody's going to have a $6 million project and we're going to come back

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and say, well, gee, it's going to take us six or seven years for us to accumulate all

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that money and we aren't going to have that money and so we aren't going to be able to do

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this project and I don't want, I would like them not to change the way the rules are worked

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in the future, but there's no guarantee that at any given time in part three, 12 counties

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can change the rules.

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So you know, the Chairman, Commissioner Karnahan, is the liaison to that particular group

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misarraduses the alternate, but this is

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So, this is the way the program is currently laid out now. There was some relief. The Treasury was going to bend on the bonding. While we get $12.4 million now, if we bonded it today, it would be 8.5 million in current money. It's my opinion that construction costs will go up at least that amount. So, when we plan projects, I think we need to plan projects using the 8.5 million

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because I think that will be more accurate, but only time will tell what construction costs are.

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I had always felt the bonding it was better, but as I say, Treasury will allow it to be bonded,

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but they were more likely to pay the interest.

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So that effectively puts a pretty big hamper on that,

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unless you have other funds you can use to pay the interest.

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Next slide. The ones that were selected by the prior board, again, were the crystal

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of a boardwalk phase one, and please note that this is in dollars paid out on part one,

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2.15 million dollars, Kings Bay. This is built for 4.81 phase two, and drainage and making

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So things go in with the aquifer there, but that's how we came over the 4.2.

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Part 3, which is, if we get nothing else, not a like to get part 3 focused on, but the Kings Bay,

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let's see.

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This was for the Sworkmark project, the 41992, which, as I say, Sworkmark is decided that they're not going to proceed in that direction,

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in this particular time. The Ford Allen B-Tree nourishment of 300,000. We've had a subsequent

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event there. Hurricane Hermine has changed that and as it was all that, you get one federal

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bureaucracy in a project that gets strained with enough. You get two federal bureaucracies in there.

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You're just in trouble. You're in trouble. So we're going to recommend that you kill that out

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for $300,000 in the North of the Aggravation.

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We've got the Borge Canal Bode ramp, which that's half of that, and we have an interactive

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spreadsheet.

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We're going to bring up a minute to work on, but that's half of the, what's anticipated, is the

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actual cost of that, because we believe we can get the other half through state funds.

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One of the other criteria is in part three if a one competitor that was going to be looked at was leveraging funds, how much, you know, could it be a leverage?

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The idea project would have been most accounting on the, on the competitive basis, the maximum leverage funds and it had an environmental

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twist or benefit or provide a greater access to the water.

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When the artificial fishing reef fishing habitat creation,

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I would note there's been a subsequent event there where a couple of counties were

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looking at trying to go together to see if we can get a better price as it relates to that.

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But that's something we're working on.

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The total we budgeted out was about $8.5 million.

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So that would be what I call a day's dollars.

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These were the scores they were numerically ranked.

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As you can see in the way it was 117-107.

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Next slide.

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Then we had the Kings Bay Project.

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We're trying to highest.

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But as I mentioned, that has been withdrawn.

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Okay.

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Second ranked project was a barge canal.

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The third was the Ford Allen B-Train Ocean Project, the fourth was Artificial Reef.

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The fifth was the Scarlet Bed Seating Project.

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I would note that it was Scarlet Seating.

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That's kind of an annual thing.

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It's like grown by grass.

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You plan it.

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And at the end of the season, it dies.

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Because the Scarlet's have a one-year life cycle.

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So it's kind of a one-going thing.

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At that time, the sunset park project was put in there.

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was a late entry on this. There was not a lot known on that at that particular time. It was ranked

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sixth and then the seventh rank one was for the canal cleaning that safe crystal river is

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doing over in Kings Bay.

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These are from the consultant, project 3, project selection recommendations,

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It's not intended to fill holes in the Department of Budget or to fund ongoing programmatic

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functions.

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They're intended for extra ordinary projects to address both local and regional coastal

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priorities.

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Examples would be public access to coastal zone, coastal water improvement, living resources,

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the sea grants restoration, that type thing.

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Few large projects are definitely preferred over a couple of small ones.

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The other member, we've got to comply with all the federal rules on this project, that

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would include Davis Bacon, that would include minority participation and all the monitoring

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and that you can figure on any given project with these additional requirements, we'll

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about 10 to 15 percent of the cost.

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The project should have clear beginning and ending points

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with regard to the use of a pot three money. So what they're really saying there is is they

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want to project at the end of the day once you get finished is done. Okay, they want something

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that gets half started and you don't have something as tangible and usable.

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They've asked

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several way projects be rolled up under a single program of theme, all projects must demonstrate

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qualified benefits, best available, the science requirements, pre-imposed project monitoring

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for projects that, and I will say this Treasury is going out and higher their own environmental

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experts, they ask questions and I know based on some of the meetings that have been attended

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that they've got an extensive discussion due to the University of Florida as it relates

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to the science behind these projects. So they are asking questions. Collaboration with other resource

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management agencies and adjacent counties is recommended. Okay. They're looking for a single project

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as I say, they want a guy pretty bow around it and they want it to be done and over with

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so that there's something tangible when you get out of the end of the way and get it done.

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Then with multiple projects, those could be sewer projects where you'd package a couple of

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together. Beech reenourishment due to the loss of sand from hurricane or mean. We've applied for

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FEMA reimbursement on the we nourishment, and we just think it makes it too complicated to

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make FEMA and restore funds, FEMA will pay to restore it to the condition before the storm,

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but they will not pay for anything beyond the above that.

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The intent when we were risen put it here was to go above and beyond that and extend the

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charity and make it nicer. But we think we can do a different way and without incarnate

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those requirements. And then as I mentioned her name, the pastor won a partner on a reasonable

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artificial reef project to create a nature-coast regional reef, and these reefs would be more

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insured than they would out offshore. So with that, and this one is harder to read. And

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OK, we can pass out, yeah, we're going to pass out these sheets and it's your all's

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opportunity to give us input. I'm going to talk about other projects on the bottom,

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these are things that are subsequently come up. On Sunset Park, we've got estimated cost

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1.7 million. We have done a praise on at this point, and the two appraisals differ quite

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a bit. I know that there's a group that's interested in this. If this is something

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the boards interested in will recommend only property acquisition. It's going to be way too

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complicated to do anything else with federal funds. The only property acquisition is a board decision

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as it relates to whether they want to be in the, we think that there's some potential issues

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with one structure that's on there, and we have some reservations about that one structure

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and also as it relates to the docs. But that was once suggested. The other one that has been

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talked about is support a force main of US-19 to doc, there are six packaged plants up

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there that could be taken off line. This will provide sewer capacity to take those plants

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off line, which I'm sure those packaged plants always beloved to not be in a sewer business.

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We are very comfortable that we can get funding for at least 50% of this, so that would

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2.75 million. For that, there was some interesting looking at sportsman's code. We did

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analysis for sportsman's code. The property is kind of awkward. It's a useful program

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we've moved it to the end. We can provide, you know, the layout, but it will provide 40

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boat slips and trailers. There is some rework to the road getting in there. It's going

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put a fair amount of additional traffic on that particular road, the estimated cost assumed

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in two million for land acquisition, which the rest of it were fairly comfortable with

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the cost estimates. Engineering's done with the land acquisition is somewhat unknown,

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but it's about 5.5 million. We are not comfortable this time that we think we can identify

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in matching funds for that particular project.

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Scalobed seeding 315,000,

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homicides is subject to sewer project.

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We could use this money to buy down those assessments.

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The one thing that I would caution is,

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if you buy down assessments in one area,

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then you set an expectation that all these assessments

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are going to be at that level,

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and that's going to be an expectation

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we're not going to be able to meet in the future.

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We talked about the Christ River Kings Bay project by Savior Christ River.

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They requested 31 million and $650,000 for Dredging canals.

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There is one other community where we're aware of the Eastern Canal Dredging.

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The question I guess that he was policy makers need to answer would be, what is the benefit

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to the general citizen of the county versus the people that live in those canals. Obviously it is a benefit to the people who live in the canals, but the benefit may be diminished for people who don't live in the canals because they may not use that particular waterway.

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The IFS is a CGS that the CGS can't have CGS mapping,

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game is mapping, restoration and prevention by voter education.

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You know, that's something that you can consider.

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I don't think that they're going to be real,

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susceptible, remember they're looking for tangible product projects.

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And I'm not convinced this is going to give them something that's tangible, but again,

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you're all, you're the judge of, you know, what you think's best for the county.

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And then the following that we added, we have had no conversations with Crystal River on this.

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We've read in the paper yesterday that they were going to be looking at taking the third avenue, the third street dog rampant.

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Potentially, we locate and looking for the county's assistance in that.

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We don't know whether talking about relocating to or anything, but we placed that on the list

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because that was in the paper yesterday, but it is juncture been no, you know, no conversations

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in that regard.

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So with that we like to get an input as I say, we may need to come back and, you know, tighten

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up the numbers or hone this in one more time before we actually do this mission, but we

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direction from yours to what and how you think this money is best used to benefit the citizens of

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the surface county.

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Okay thank you Randy we appreciate it gentlemen. A quick question I have

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is Christopher Riverwalk you know if these projects don't happen then we can move these money

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to where we need them. Yeah it's much easier to move it if it's in part one because again

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you can control it so if there are things because any project you have that's been a

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curl for 15 years some sooner or later the numbers are going to change okay conditions change

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so I'm sure they're going to have to change some things in the part three or store money but

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I would keep projects that are more likely to move in part one, but also recognize that

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part one is money that we hold on to, even if we have no point in for it, so we can hold

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that for another day. I would put the most tangible desirable projects in part three.

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Okay, part one can be used for economic development, by the way, part three cannot.

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Okay, gentlemen, for that, and whoever wants to

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We know Mr. Kitchens ready, so we're going to turn it everything

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Thank you Mr. Jürgen have that a couple a couple of comments for first of all

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As we delve into this again, and I had three questions that we're now what's changed, and what should we change from our previous plan, if anything.

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So I think it's important to remind everybody first off, this is found money. This is money that fell into our lap. So it's not like this is coming from general fund, taxpayers, and so what we're trying to do, I think, is use this found money.

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Work within the constraints given to us by the federal government and get the most bang for the buck

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That's what we're trying to get to so with that said I would just say based on what we've seen just kind of get the discussion going

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I think that

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You know dealing with the pot one money. Nothing really has changed that I can see dealing with the

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What we committed to crystal rivers with river walk and for the springs shed water quality treatment and that's kind of programmed in so

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You know, unless somebody else thinks something should change, you know, comfortable with that.

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Again, with the pot three, I still am very comfortable with the barge canal boat ramp.

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I agree with the administration on holding back on the beach renourishment.

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On the artificial reef initiative, I just want to be real clear that it makes sense to work with

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the other two counties as long as this continues to be an insure reef.

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I know the big issue here is we have reached that are further offshore, but the concept of this was to make it easier for voters to get to, therefore, to enhance tourism.

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I know the TDC support to this as well.

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So, you know, I don't know if you want to talk about these one at a time, or I can continue and down my list there, however you love it.

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But if you don't mind me, but in there, and also on the reef, if it's my understanding that we are going to go in, maybe as a regional project, but each channel would use their own money to do their own reef corrects.

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Yeah, the value of really is a nature coast reef that was part of a past from an anchor county to this, but they're kind of doing an intro resource.

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So this, even though we say a regional reef is not going to be one reef located and it wasn't has a wrong reef, but we're going to package it together.

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because we're aiming to say this whole plan has to get approved by these counties and has to

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give the governor and then the treasury to approve the mixture to state of Florida's

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using this money properly and sometimes cooperation and a bit of things look better but

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bond, you know, in a day we're going to do A-reef, A-reef, A-reef, A-reef, A-reef, A-reef,

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and such a brief.

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And it said at the end of the day, it's better to go in as a regional project with other

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counties because you've easily moved up on the list.

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It's helpful to us in the future too, to be able to punch a resub in a series.

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So, as long as that's what happens, Mr. President, if we get into a bigger part, which is fine,

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working with these folks, but if we lose the aspect of this being a close-insure reef, the

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citrus county voters, then we lose what the whole concept was.

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So if that's the case, I think that's a great idea.

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I agree holding off on the scallop bed, seeding the last report I saw showed that the seeding

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they did eight or ten years ago was still effective, and we still have one of the best

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scallop populations out there.

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I believe the Sunset Park, which I'm calling the Waterfront Access Park and Homossassas

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that we're all talking about, I believe that should be moved up on the list.

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I think that the state is willing to support us in funding with that, but based on the

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comments I heard from, at least, Representative Masudo, they're going to be looking for

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some kind of local match, so I don't know if the restore can be used as a local match if

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can and I think that that just that perfectly the and I have another one I'd like to throw

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out there Mr. Chairman. I think I think that the issue we've just owned by the way,

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if Chris to River does come up with another okay if they do move their boat ramp I would definitely

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think we should work with them you know as much as we can cooperably keeping in mind that

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we've already allocated a couple million bucks to the river walk.

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and I think that we have that message that we will work with them on another okay.

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But here's my big idea. I think I checked with Mr. Oliver in his first pass through and you know how

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resistant he is to wing it but he kind of went winged it on this one. But I really think the issue with

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boat ramps is not so much boat ramps as parking. And what I would like to see if possible added to this list

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give you an example of the boat ramp at McRase and Homosasa is a okay boat ramp, but there's

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just very limited parking down there.

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If we could use some of this restore money to put in additional boat trailer parking and

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that vicinity down there, that would and accept, you know, that would actually increase the

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usability and the user finliness of this boat ramp.

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And my understanding is that, that kind of project is fundable through this, at least that

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was the first pass that it's.

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So for one of us, we're with Mr. Chairman, I'd like to see the concept of additional boat ramp

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parking edge to this as well.

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And that's all I got.

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So I'll start out here.

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Now, appreciate the comments.

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I agree with most of them.

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I'm not so sure about the bike ramp arching, you know, just from being down in that area,

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I think it's going to be a hard concept to sell or land a buy, so with that I'm going to

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go ahead, gentlemen.

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I've got a couple notes here. First of all, well, I guess in reading the tea leaves, I'm

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not sure that I've got the support to remove this from the restore funds list as I would

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like. I still think that it's a bad idea. I think it's going to cost the citrus county economy.

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I think it's going to cost us money annually by losing boat traffic out of Citrus County,

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but I think this project, this boat ramp up there is again part of that field of dreams

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that included not only the boat ramp, but port citrus, the 491 overlay, metal crest,

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all of these things that draw people and businesses out of our existing commercial centers.

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We should be looking at how to increase density in and around our existing commercial

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centers, increase population, increase foot traffic, increase boat traffic around our existing

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citrus county businesses to generate more business and try to get our economy cranking.

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One of the things I took note of was that we hadn't identified

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many matching funds for the Sportsman's Co-Project,

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but we just talked about the state, possibly matching funds on Sunset Park.

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When Senator Simpson was here on Friday,

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he was talking about many of the boaters and swimmers being up in the head waters of the springs

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and wanting some type of a park or project or something like that, whether it would be bathroom facilities, things along those lines.

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I think sportsman's code project checks off a lot of boxes and it seems to me that there may very well be matching funds to do something there.

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And is it a difficult project? Yes, but previous boards have not run from a difficult project, and just because one project is easier to do at this point than another, I don't think we should shy away from a challenge of a difficult project.

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The notes that I just took during this presentation is that the large canal boat ramp is the secondized funded project of all of our restore funds, yet it has the least economic benefit to citrus county's economy.

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That should be a major red flag for all of us.

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So this restore money is there to increase access to our waterways, help restore local economies.

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And again, this isn't a, I don't mean for it to be a badgering on our friends to the North

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and Levy County, but if and when this project is complete, we should be getting Christmas

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cards from their Chamber of Commerce.

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We are building them a very, very nice facility.

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If this is a regional project, then it should not only have what did I put down here.

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If this is a regional project, it should not only be supported and endorsed.

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It should be supported financially.

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I would like to see Levy County, if we've made that outreach to them great, but I'd

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to see Levy County use some of their restore funds to help cover some of the cost of this.

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If that happens, that gives us more money and our pool of funds that we can do projects that

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will benefit the folks and our coastal communities. In Homassas, in Crystal River, things

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you know, waterfront parks, things along those lines. I've said my piece on this, I'm not

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I'm not going to be to dead horse here if you will. I am concerned that I've received

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some assurances that we will not be pumping groundwater from citrus county, and that will

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be crossing the line in the Levy County. That is in the resolutions passed by the town of

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and Yankee town as well as Marion County, I believe, as well, that they were interested in

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this project for wastewater, reclaimed water, and potable water. The potable water I have

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a very real issue with. Now, my understanding is that county staff has not had these conversations,

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but it's in their resolution, so somebody had their head of conversation. I don't know if

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this was a one-man ban that did this or what happened, but there was a conversation that took place

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about this, I would want to make sure going forward. I would like to try and get some commitment

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from Levy County for their restore funds, and I would like to make sure that not a drop

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of such a kind of groundwater will be crossing the county line. And if we can do some of those things,

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then I will show up to the ribbon cutting. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Card.

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chairman and as been sitting on this board and have these projects right I'm going to

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totally disagree with you when it comes to the March now but ramp. If you go and on the

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weekends especially the Monday after Christmas and you look at the but ramp is being used up

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there now I think I counted around 75 vehicles you know in the majority of them were

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county residents. So I still think that this project is a great project for

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citrus county. We've already invested quite a bit of money up there.

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Along with what the state and the trail system going to be, you know, they have a lot

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of activities up there. Going into the, you know, we'll be going into the Nellon, we'll

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be connecting to our rails, the trails. So again, I think this is a great project. I think

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as an asset, it's a city of county in general, so I think it needs to stay where it's

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said for a bit of a bit of a bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little

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spot in the large canal footprint, I want to keep that on top of the list for a number

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of reasons.

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I've been a voter for many years, and a lot of people bring up that there's

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a boat ramp on the barge canal on the south side next FWC. If you have any type of large

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boat, that is a very unusable boat ramp. I've been up there and tried to launch and at low

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tides, it's a foot, maybe foot and a half and it's very awkward. And can we reconfigure that one?

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Yes, we could, but there's no, you're always going to have maybe one or two loading areas there,

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just because it's a typography,

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and the people I use that right now are pretty much going

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with John Boats, just because the size of it, it's hard to access it with the parking

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down there.

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Now, Levy County has been brought up about Levy County residents coming down and using

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our boat ramp.

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Then, if anybody who's ever been out to the 40 Yanky Town boat ramp, when you have an

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income and tire and now go and tie it, it's probably about five or six knots of water that

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goes past that boat ramp, makes it very hard to launch it sometimes.

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And even so, if they're not going out to that 40 boat ramp, because that's pretty much

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the only boat ramp on South Levy side that you have, they come to our boat ramps anyway.

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And also during scalping season and managing seasons, nobody goes out of the barge canal

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boat ramp to go visit those, so the people that are typically using the boat ramps on

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Now if you want to get important to ensure fishing, large canal is a perfect one, one with

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a con plan with the Manatee issue, it makes sense to have folks going out of there.

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It's deep a water, typically Manatee's get hurt when it's shallow a water and it can't

415
00:43:55,390 --> 00:43:56,810
submerge under the proper wash.

416
00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:02,870
So for those reasons I want to keep that on the list, talking about all the boat ramps,

417
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:07,390
where basically three boat ramps short, obviously my feeling is we do the boat ramp

418
00:44:07,390 --> 00:44:11,050
up at the barge canal, we look at doing one in Christopher and the one in Homesasa.

419
00:44:12,130 --> 00:44:14,590
I think we need to really look at.

420
00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:19,230
In reference to the Christopher one, I just recently spoke to the city manager.

421
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:27,230
And just to point out a couple locations, and they're very early on there looking at locations.

422
00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:33,010
But two locations they had, one was the, there's a little commercial lot directly behind the days in.

423
00:44:34,650 --> 00:44:39,130
They just had a property directly across the street from that property.

424
00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:40,170
It was about three point.

425
00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:42,610
Something acres that just came on the market.

426
00:44:44,010 --> 00:44:46,650
They estimated the cost of putting a program there.

427
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:49,650
And I think it would be a single program from what I can understand,

428
00:44:49,850 --> 00:44:51,210
because the size of a property.

429
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:54,810
They're looking at around a million dollars total.

430
00:44:55,730 --> 00:44:57,210
For that and their property acquisition,

431
00:44:57,410 --> 00:44:59,970
because I think the property fit the three point four acres is about.

432
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,580
One point, I'm sorry, 170,000ish. The only issues I have with that one is you have about a mile or so of idle speed going out to the river, which makes it not the most desirable boat location.

433
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:25,860
There's second location was at the mallet hole, which I've been down in numerous numerous times.

434
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,460
And there's a lot of people that use mallet holes for fishing. A lot of low income families go out there,

435
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,960
because there's not a lot of accessible areas to do good fishing and they use that on a regular basis.

436
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:46,960
I don't want to take away an area that is used for good purposes to put something else in and also the property location there

437
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,360
I think it's just not a good location

438
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:59,960
My other location of looking at because I've been over there looking at some spots and obviously this is owned by DEP and I already had this discussion was

439
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:05,980
was Yo-Yoc-Lub, and obviously that's limited on space also, but that's easy access.

440
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,660
It's towards the mouth of the river.

441
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:18,720
And then you go down to Sportsman's Cove, plenty of parking, that's what's seven

442
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:24,300
something acres, plenty of parking down there, obviously the ramp is an issue of where to

443
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,380
put it, I don't know who the accessibility is out there.

444
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:32,040
What real quick, I want to ask a question, I think we all probably need to know.

445
00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:41,600
If we get to a place like a sportsman's cover or the old shrimp dumps, I call it, and

446
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,520
we want to upgrade that boat ramp from one to four.

447
00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:51,600
What is that going to do is that's going to, you know, when you want to upscale that boat

448
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,200
ramp, because that's what we would definitely have to do, now we're going to get into the

449
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:02,180
conference plan. Well, I want to be clear of what is relates to, we did some preliminary

450
00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:10,840
figures of sportsman's code. It provides parking for 40 miles. But my question is,

451
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,820
I mean, is sportsman's code that the old shrimp dogs you have a single boat ramp?

452
00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:25,000
That's good. To make it feasible, you would have to make that larger. If we make that

453
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,320
And what is that going to do as far as getting in the M.C. comprehensive plan?

454
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:31,460
I think it's going to trigger.

455
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:31,980
Absolutely.

456
00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:32,780
Okay.

457
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,880
Now the one day I want to make clear on sportsman's curve and we have not done any analysis

458
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,780
in this at this point, we do not know whether that's a grandfathered boatman for not at this

459
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:44,080
point.

460
00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:44,500
Yeah.

461
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:46,540
I don't know that one either.

462
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:52,520
I know it's been there a while, but that's, you know, the concerns that I have, you know,

463
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,540
if we get to expand them, what are we going to get into?

464
00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:58,760
So with that, I think it's a lot of benefits and I'll come back to you.

465
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:02,480
Okay, if you have some data, just real quick on what you're saying there.

466
00:48:03,260 --> 00:48:12,480
We do have without question, there are a number of days during the year when we need additional

467
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,920
ramp space where we would need to go to two or three slip ramps.

468
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,940
But the majority of our problem, I believe, is parking.

469
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:27,880
So, you know, if we end up with a project that is a tremendous economic benefit to homelessness and the

470
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,840
crystal river or the citrus county economy as a whole, and again, I'm arguing for something

471
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:41,600
I'm not, I know the support isn't there, but my point is that if we have a single ramp with the

472
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:48,360
parking to help alleviate some of the pressure to other ramps and it benefits the economy, and we

473
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:55,040
can potentially get some state matching dollars that that that ramp or that project and

474
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,600
maybe it's maybe it's an additional project, I don't know, but that project takes off a lot

475
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,420
of boxes for economic development and all of this stuff, so I'm going to share that.

476
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,380
One, the reason why I mentioned the three boat ramps is, number one, most of our economy

477
00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:15,840
right now, of course, is voting based, whether it's humanity watching, whether it's

478
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,060
scoutsies and whether it's just recreational fishing and so forth.

479
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:27,500
And my feeling is we need to make it easier for our community to access the water.

480
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:31,460
You go down, going to scoutsies and down for it, I don't trail to either one of the rants,

481
00:49:31,540 --> 00:49:36,920
whether it's the beach down there or the county boat ramp, and I've seen trailers and vehicles

482
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,900
parked a mile down the road at Fort Allen Beach.

483
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,640
Number one, it's dangerous,

484
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:51,400
there is no parking, and we need to make some, try to leave it as some of those dangerous situations.

485
00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:57,000
Now I'm not even sure if the property is going to be for sale.

486
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:03,080
We have any confirmation of whether sportsman code is actually going to be for sale, or because I know that keeps flipping back and forth.

487
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,600
I mean, we have not somebody else, but we have not.

488
00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:10,920
So it's kind of difficult right now for me at this time to say here,

489
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,800
let's put that on the list until we get some confirmation

490
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,980
or some other issues.

491
00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:20,080
Saying it's Christopher, I mean, I would love to the program they have

492
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,700
on Northwest third is it's dangerous because you're crossing four lanes

493
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:28,220
of traffic and a suicide lane to park across the street of the firehouse.

494
00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:31,600
And then you're running back across traffic with no crosswalks or anything

495
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:38,680
So to me that's a very dangerous situation and obviously with the river walk that imputes that issue right there

496
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,660
I know they're going to try to go around if they don't move it, but I just think some of those issues

497
00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:45,660
We need to address because uploading traffic is going to continue to increase

498
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,300
Especially with our population

499
00:50:50,420 --> 00:50:53,540
Going up every year. That's going to increase

500
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:57,980
So, you know, you finish for now.

501
00:50:58,780 --> 00:50:59,740
I'm going to go, I'm going to go.

502
00:50:59,740 --> 00:51:00,000
I'm going to go on.

503
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Just the way we have it, that's a commissionersmith.

504
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,040
You have his say then we'll come back through and we'll end the heat conference here.

505
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:07,580
Thank you, Chair.

506
00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:13,040
And I'll keep my umbrellas assembly short, because all the projects are westside projects on the side kid.

507
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,040
So, with that, something that I've learned through the process is one of the benefits to our community

508
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,960
is the economics of Clearwater.

509
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,620
And I think that we should really look at the priority of putting the force main on the table

510
00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:33,520
as being one of the key things we look at as a long-term economic driver, as well as, of course,

511
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:35,340
supporting the sentiment removal.

512
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:39,980
And that is something that is measurable, it's constantly being measured, and it provides

513
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:44,780
a true obvious and easy to explain success story.

514
00:51:44,780 --> 00:51:48,720
And as many people come here on their boats to go, scalping, fishing,

515
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:52,840
mantis, out with the mantis, declare the water.

516
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,660
The more we're actually using projects to advocate to bring your money here.

517
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,920
And I truly appreciate the conundrum of the boat ramps,

518
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,700
but if we don't do a continued effort,

519
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,060
and a long-term plan to clear up the water,

520
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,500
how many people want to come and swim in the murky water.

521
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:17,660
And the problem is, this is a historic aspect of sediment and nutrients that we are only now getting on.

522
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:23,300
If we can put in plans now, hopefully in the next 10, 20 years, make some major strides,

523
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,420
then forever we'll talk about boat ramps.

524
00:52:26,620 --> 00:52:30,760
But maybe if we do this now, we will forever be talking about nutrients and sediment.

525
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,200
I do have a question in reference to the boat ramp.

526
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:45,880
The regional project, and if it is a regional project, have we asked the entities that are involved with the boat ramp to help fund this?

527
00:52:46,140 --> 00:52:51,580
I mean, has there been an actual hard-ass from the County Commission or staff to help assist to fund this project?

528
00:52:51,860 --> 00:52:59,580
We've paid preliminary conversations with the restore coordinator as it relates to that.

529
00:52:59,580 --> 00:53:04,100
There were historic Americans going to meet the actual link, and they were going to discuss

530
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:13,300
all the others, interesting, any kind of cooperative funding, and I'm not, and also

531
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:18,840
what they're all of the interest is, and potentially the US-19 project, because one would

532
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,820
want the first money, not as far as the budget can now, and I know I'm missing here.

533
00:53:23,820 --> 00:53:30,580
down during much, would like to be able to look up to that particular sewer there, but just

534
00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:35,300
like us they would have to then look committee with no graduation of the Board of

535
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:39,680
County Commissioners who would ought to make the ultimate decision for them just like you

536
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,660
do for us.

537
00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:45,800
And one thing I'd like to add on, because that's a great idea, and I agree on a percent

538
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:54,580
of what's with my yesterday in Egypt, and it would go in, is to run a line up to

539
00:53:54,580 --> 00:54:00,880
do the energy for reclaimed water, send it to Simpsons, very much interest to that, that

540
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,340
would also help a concern of years of pumping to the water.

541
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:10,440
You know, do the energy pump a lot of water, go into the plants, and if we could get a line

542
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,640
to them, there is a line from Chris River,

543
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,160
but if we could get another line up to them

544
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,940
with more reclaimed water,

545
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:19,720
it would definitely help with the lesson

546
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:21,180
to pump it out of the earth now.

547
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,880
So, I like that project.

548
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,500
Like, and so I would like to maybe bring up the thought

549
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,180
on the back side of boat ramp issue,

550
00:54:30,620 --> 00:54:34,500
maybe we should direct staff to specifically ask them

551
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,500
to participate, because even if we don't get a positive result

552
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:39,780
from that, nothing lost by asking,

553
00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:46,400
We're still concerned we're going to move forward with project anyway, but if we don't specifically determine that we want staff to ask this

554
00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:50,900
Then there's too much latitude now. I think we should direct them to do so

555
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:57,120
I definitely think there's probably some interest this definitely it's especially if we can get a force line up there

556
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,080
We can help those guys out

557
00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:00,020
so

558
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,320
I think that we need to

559
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,360
To reach out to them and and see where which I think we have and I think we'll just kind of wait for an answer

560
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Thank you.

561
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,500
Anything else?

562
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:11,560
Okay.

563
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,560
With that, I'm going to come back to the Commission of Colorado comment.

564
00:55:15,340 --> 00:55:15,500
Yeah.

565
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,580
Just a couple of things that Commissioner Coleman had addressed.

566
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,680
As far as the leavey county voters using our ramps, I love leavey county voters using

567
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,600
our ramps.

568
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,440
I want all the county voters to use our ramps, but I want them to buy their gas and

569
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,860
citrus county, want them to buy their groceries and I want them to stay in citrus county.

570
00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:41,980
That is my biggest concern with this, so it's not that I don't want out of counters using

571
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:42,620
our ramps.

572
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,320
I want them all in here.

573
00:55:44,780 --> 00:55:46,760
I don't want just a portion of them for sure.

574
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:53,840
The manatee injuries, that was something that was brought up and that's our manatee protection

575
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,720
plan I understand that's in place.

576
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,660
But in the, and I brought this up, so I won't be labored at the point.

577
00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:10,860
But in the consultants report, one of the consultants report that was used for the site selection

578
00:56:10,860 --> 00:56:16,700
of the large canal, they stated in there that I believe it was over 35 years span.

579
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:25,440
There had only been 14 boat and manatee deaths or accidents, something along those lines.

580
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,200
I don't recall the exact verbage.

581
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:34,680
And the consultants' comments were, in fact, the interaction rate is very low.

582
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:44,640
So I want to make sure that we don't run from coexisting with the manatees, such as county

583
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:51,700
and crystal-reversy economies depend on coexisting with manatees using the same waterways.

584
00:56:51,820 --> 00:56:57,560
And I believe we've been very good hosts of the manatees here.

585
00:56:57,980 --> 00:57:04,700
And so I just want to make sure that we don't allow this species, allow an endangered

586
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:10,780
or threatened species to become a new surround-dollar economic necks.

587
00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:17,780
And we keep things in perspective that, yes, we need to be careful that, but it's really not.

588
00:57:18,980 --> 00:57:24,940
It hasn't been historically has not been a major issue. One last thing, and I'll get quite about this.

589
00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:35,660
It was mentioned the amount of money that we've put toward the Crystal River Boardwalk last night at the Crystal River City Council meeting.

590
00:57:35,660 --> 00:57:44,460
They are very anxious to break ground on this on the ground portion, they are anxious to get rolling on there on their waterfront portion.

591
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:55,620
They have got a couple issues with property owners that they are trying to alleviate some concerns there.

592
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,120
I would like to see, I know that we have done our part financially.

593
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:10,060
But I would like to see if this board would support Randy or staff contacting Dave Renell

594
00:58:10,060 --> 00:58:18,410
and just offering our support in his conversations to try and close that, you know, just let them know that the county is behind them.

595
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:27,540
That would a full complete waterfront portion to that boardwalk is good for crystal river, it's good for citrus county.

596
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:39,200
And even though it may be kind of a feel-good gesture, I would think that would be a good thing for county staff to contact him.

597
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,480
I know he's going forward with kind of a last-edge effort to try and make that a complete waterfront.

598
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:46,380
And we stay out of the conversation.

599
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,800
It's their project, but at least let them know that the county's here to support them and their efforts to get a good project done.

600
00:58:53,340 --> 00:59:00,160
And just a comment on that, if anybody does make contact, I would do it very soon.

601
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,800
They're setting up a meeting, probably this week with the last property owner that's

602
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:05,600
a little resistance.

603
00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:09,500
So I would try to do that beforehand before they make that meeting.

604
00:59:10,580 --> 00:59:11,620
And that's all I remember.

605
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:14,580
Now, the last property, just get a little resistant.

606
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,700
What's the burden of also?

607
00:59:16,660 --> 00:59:19,460
So, you know, we keep talking about veterans, you know, Chris River.

608
00:59:19,940 --> 00:59:24,360
We've already extended our hand to Christopher ever, the previous board has extended their hand to Christopher ever.

609
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,080
We have given them, you know, we have promised them a $2.1 million for the Riverwalk.

610
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:33,180
I don't mind extending again to them.

611
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:38,740
But again, I want to see more of this project moving along.

612
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,880
I think that they have some real issues with that project.

613
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,720
I'm not so sure they're going to meet all the federal standards for that project.

614
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:56,120
But again, I think that they know we're a force of boredom, I mean, I talk to you a different commissioners of was on the phone yesterday with a councilman over there.

615
00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:59,820
But I don't have any issues to extend in our hands again.

616
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:15,800
And I don't want to hand them $2.1 million in that project, not be complete, because I do know there's not only one, but there's a couple property owners that are washing on whether they want to do that, because it's going to hinder it's what they use the property force.

617
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,560
I think there's some big hurdles they still have to jump but I don't have a problem with it

618
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:27,560
You know that another word we're here to help them. I mean I do that to a kind of random basis with it with the council

619
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,980
I'm in there anyway, so with that I'll turn to commissioner kitchen. Thank you, sir

620
01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:41,020
Well, I wasn't going to talk about that, but since that's where we left off at will for 15 years I worked to get the boardwalk in place

621
01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:42,480
Okay, so

622
01:00:43,220 --> 01:00:49,880
And I think our city attorney was involved in the county attorney's involved in that when she was over there as well.

623
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:55,680
There should never be a doubt in anybody's mind that the county fully stands behind the city.

624
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,420
What we have to be careful of is the city's position and I know this from firsthand experiences,

625
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,580
and they don't really appreciate the county sticking their nose and their business unless they ask for it.

626
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:11,300
So we've told them over and over again, we support you in cleaning up King's Bay, we support you in the Riverwalk.

627
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:17,120
let us know what we can do to help and they know that and you know I see Dave Burnell quite

628
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,740
often and I continue to share that. As a matter of fact I'll go further and say it's not

629
01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:26,840
on our list because they didn't answer it to be on there but I still think redoing their

630
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,660
downtown Marina is the best thing they could do for their economic development and water

631
01:01:31,660 --> 01:01:35,900
front access but they have yet come to the county and said what you know what when

632
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:40,900
you guys can help about that but I talked about that for years and years I still think

633
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:45,780
that's an opportunity, they're missing, but it's their city, they're elected, governing

634
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:50,040
body there, and it's their decision to make, but I think we've all said, over and over

635
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,960
and over and over, over the years that we stand behind them in their projects, just like

636
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,720
we do with Embrness.

637
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,820
You know, they have to come and tell us what it is.

638
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,440
They like to work with us, move on, and we can do it.

639
01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:04,140
So that said, let me back up for a minute, real quick, Sportsman's Cove.

640
01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:09,500
I have one concern about the Sportsman's Cove issue, and that is, unlike what we have on

641
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:13,340
We're calling Sunset Park or the access to the River Park.

642
01:02:13,620 --> 01:02:16,380
That part, when they started that about two years ago,

643
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,640
basically has widespread buy-in from the entire community.

644
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,960
They've been talking about it.

645
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,960
They supported virtually every organization down there

646
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,240
and supported it or whatever.

647
01:02:27,740 --> 01:02:31,620
We have not even floated the idea of the sportsman's code.

648
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,580
We have no idea what the residents in that area are going

649
01:02:35,580 --> 01:02:38,920
to think about if we do put in a major boat ramp in their communities.

650
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:47,520
So maybe they'll love it, maybe they won't, but this is one of those issues where I have a problem with the government getting out in front of what the people in the community have asked for.

651
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:54,720
So at this point in time, the people in the community have been very outspoken about the sunset park.

652
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:03,680
I just think if sports must go have happened, that'd be wonderful. It's a great idea, but I'm just hesitant to get out in front of the ask from the community if you know what I mean.

653
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,380
Let me back up the boat ramps real quick.

654
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:13,520
I fully understand commissioners can art zeal with keeping funds in the county and so on and so forth.

655
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:14,720
But here's the issue.

656
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,420
We have X amount of boat ramps.

657
01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:18,780
Those boat ramps are full.

658
01:03:19,060 --> 01:03:23,660
Those boat ramps are used to excess and maximum capacity constantly.

659
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,720
Putting the boat ramp in at the barge can now is a net new boat ramp that will add.

660
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,200
It will not distract from the other ramps.

661
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:31,420
Okay.

662
01:03:32,260 --> 01:03:37,580
My thinking is, is this will create access, this will create more, it won't, in any

663
01:03:37,580 --> 01:03:41,700
effect, be a trade-off, where we pick up X and 1 and lose X at the other.

664
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:45,820
I think all these vote ramps are going to be continued to be used, and when Word gets

665
01:03:45,820 --> 01:03:50,920
out that we have an existing vote ramp, we're adding these additional vote ramps will

666
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:51,880
do more.

667
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,940
Mr. Chairman, just for what it's worth, I have no problem asking other counties to participate

668
01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:57,660
financially.

669
01:03:57,660 --> 01:04:01,980
but now leave the county has a project that they think is somehow going to benefit

670
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:06,420
citrus county. They're going to be coming down and saying, hey guys, how about giving us some money for our project too?

671
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:12,320
So we got to keep in mind that this that the barge can now is in citrus county. The barge can

672
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:17,220
out is not the borders to citrus county. The other side of the barge can now is also a citrus county.

673
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,140
So let's keep that in mind. So I'll back up also to Commissioner Smith's point.

674
01:04:23,140 --> 01:04:28,060
I agree 100%, I believe that force main project is the kind of thing that we're looking for.

675
01:04:28,220 --> 01:04:33,760
We know water quality is based on nutrient load, which we've heard is fertilizer and

676
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,440
septic tanks.

677
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:38,640
And this board's done what it's good for fertilizer and septic tanks are what's left.

678
01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:41,200
So I also agree with that.

679
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:46,600
So again, we come back to, at the end of this, a staff's going to be asking where to go.

680
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:52,320
And as I see it, there's a few that's been off the list based on what we've talked about

681
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,620
in the field been added. And I guess what I see happening is we still have the barge can

682
01:04:56,620 --> 01:05:00,700
have boat ramp for all the reasons debated. The four down beach

683
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:04,140
refinements off the artificial reef thing. I think we support the

684
01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:10,080
scallop bed seating is off the sunset park is on. We continue to support

685
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,980
Crystal Rivers effort for sediment removal. I don't know where the 31 million dollars

686
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:18,320
is going to come from. But we support that. And with adding the forest main

687
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:25,180
concept that we talked about, and again, just for clarification, when I talked about extending

688
01:05:25,180 --> 01:05:29,760
parking at boat ramps, it's not necessarily just told in the sass, it's any place

689
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:35,460
that we could potentially help out the capacity of existing boat ramps by finding additional

690
01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:35,940
parking.

691
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,800
Thank you, Commissioner Kitchen, and let me throw a couple of things in real quick, I think it's

692
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:47,500
for this board to do some things down in the old homicides.

693
01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:55,460
I think sunset park is a place as a kid that's iron around on with Hampton's still

694
01:05:55,460 --> 01:06:00,300
go down there quite often to buy from Shellies for you.

695
01:06:01,180 --> 01:06:07,960
So I have family that they have land down there and really and truthfully have been a red

696
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:16,200
steps out for a long time. Okay, and they've never really had a park on the water. Okay, and it's time that if we're going to do something down there

697
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,540
that would be the one I would jump all over in a heartbeat to make it happen.

698
01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:28,460
And when we talk about economic, I want to throw a couple things out there real quick, economic development, you know, a Christian river.

699
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:34,440
We all must remember, you know, Duke Energy's building three new plants, U.S.G.

700
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:43,720
just built a new pad to push all the gyps and over to their side because they do have a plan to build a wall board plan out there.

701
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,180
So there's things that are going to happen in the north sector,

702
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,460
west sector, a citrus county.

703
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:50,780
And look,

704
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:55,950
we have got some investment at the bars canal,

705
01:06:56,670 --> 01:07:04,950
and there was a idea one time to make it a working port.

706
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:09,290
Okay, and we invested about 300,000 or a little bit more than that.

707
01:07:09,370 --> 01:07:11,190
We're thinking about that boat ramp.

708
01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:15,050
We might be able to get our investment back out of it.

709
01:07:15,530 --> 01:07:18,250
Okay, the taxpayers might be able to get their money out.

710
01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:23,150
If we put that boat ramp there, I promise you, there's a heck of a possibility

711
01:07:23,150 --> 01:07:25,350
that you can see a marina going there.

712
01:07:25,550 --> 01:07:29,950
Okay, so I know a couple already that have expressed interest.

713
01:07:29,950 --> 01:07:35,890
And, you know, if we're going to invest some money, I'm not for a port by no means, okay,

714
01:07:35,890 --> 01:07:37,130
but we have invested money.

715
01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:42,050
And I am a businessman and I'm not going to throw $350,000 out of the window.

716
01:07:42,490 --> 01:07:45,190
Okay, you know, I did vote to keep it a port designation.

717
01:07:46,110 --> 01:07:51,750
I do believe that that vote ramp is essential to what the state wants to do up there.

718
01:07:51,870 --> 01:07:53,550
They're going to one, give us property.

719
01:07:53,770 --> 01:07:56,150
They're two, they're going to match matches.

720
01:07:56,150 --> 01:08:06,310
And then also they're going to put a lot of infrastructure in, for activities up there, you know, everybody doesn't have a boat in such a county in state of Florida.

721
01:08:06,530 --> 01:08:09,110
So they depend on fishing from the bank.

722
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:14,270
And that is a great place to fish from the bank for a lot of different tough species.

723
01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:18,830
Like we can name all kind of things that come up in there.

724
01:08:18,830 --> 01:08:26,310
But I think that I'm with Commissioner Tiffton, Commissioner Smith,

725
01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:45,050
on keeping these projects in the line, adding the force may not there, because I think that is a tremendous asset to getting nutrients load off of these rivers and the money that the state is giving to us.

726
01:08:45,050 --> 01:08:53,130
Okay, I'm going tomorrow to the spring's, you know, home assassins, the next one on the

727
01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:59,070
list on starting to fund that to get some nutrients left off, okay, and, you know, we're

728
01:08:59,070 --> 01:09:03,710
going to invest our money in Sunset Park when you'd also be working down there to clean

729
01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:04,790
that waterway up.

730
01:09:05,410 --> 01:09:10,590
And so that force up there would be a great idea, and especially if we can put a line

731
01:09:10,590 --> 01:09:15,170
in next to it and put a reclaim water and a decay energy, that then that's a win for

732
01:09:15,170 --> 01:09:19,890
if you're counting all the way around. So I'll always commission a kitchen. I'll keep

733
01:09:19,890 --> 01:09:30,750
in these, the boat ramp, sunset property, force main, kind of how we have it, take away the

734
01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:38,430
seating project right now, the sportsman's coat, needs to come off. It keeps the artificial

735
01:09:38,430 --> 01:09:44,010
reef. I'm a farm believer that we need to do everything we can for the builders in this

736
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:52,130
We do have some artificial reefs offshore, but if we could get some pleasure to ensure where we could have more better, she's out.

737
01:09:52,310 --> 01:09:54,050
I'm off for that soon.

738
01:09:55,410 --> 01:09:57,370
Yes, sir, just a couple of notes here.

739
01:09:58,990 --> 01:10:03,010
The as far as Homassasagos and Sunset and I look, I'm excited.

740
01:10:03,210 --> 01:10:06,010
We're going to invest some money around that area.

741
01:10:06,730 --> 01:10:09,370
As far as Sunset Park goes, I want both.

742
01:10:09,370 --> 01:10:17,370
I want to add to that. I want, I'm great, okay. The Homassas Group is put forth a tremendous effort.

743
01:10:18,190 --> 01:10:24,170
I am all about doing some property acquisition down there, getting the public access to the Homassas Serer.

744
01:10:24,690 --> 01:10:30,610
I'd love for them to be able to put their boat in its force was covered. Anyway, I want both of them.

745
01:10:30,610 --> 01:10:37,490
The force main project on 19, it's been my understanding or have been told in the past

746
01:10:37,490 --> 01:10:45,690
that property owners, along 19, would have expressed an interest in sharing cost to run

747
01:10:45,690 --> 01:10:47,290
utilities up that direction.

748
01:10:48,430 --> 01:10:53,830
If that's the case, I would like to approach some about doing that rather than spending

749
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:59,090
our restore money, even if we're going to, maybe they do the match part with the state.

750
01:10:59,090 --> 01:11:06,130
I don't know, but I have heard that I have been told that those property owners with

751
01:11:06,130 --> 01:11:10,650
have an interest in sharing the cost of running utilities up 19 if they're, if property

752
01:11:10,650 --> 01:11:15,790
owners are going to realize the economic benefit of having utilities run across their property

753
01:11:15,790 --> 01:11:20,490
and they're willing to make the investment in it, then I'd rather not use this found money

754
01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:22,270
from a store to do that.

755
01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:26,550
Well, yeah, I'm more of the same thing and I've heard the same thing.

756
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:33,170
level of what the funding is. I don't know. I don't think realistically we're going to be able

757
01:11:33,170 --> 01:11:38,810
to get to quite that level. Based on what I'm hearing right now, I'm kind of throwing some

758
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:44,750
rough numbers together and we can refine this because there's some of these projects that I mean,

759
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:50,170
I just don't know whether the numbers you get. I use commissioner comments. Me and dollars, for example,

760
01:11:50,170 --> 01:11:56,570
on across wherever and I need to get Mr. Bernal from that number of forming and there's

761
01:11:56,570 --> 01:12:07,350
some other numbers that need to be found up. But I think we've got something that we can

762
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:11,150
work up for your further consideration and I get better handle on that.

763
01:12:11,950 --> 01:12:18,670
One last comment. The Fort Island Beach boat ramp now, we have had some conversation about

764
01:12:18,670 --> 01:12:25,710
that that is any improvements at that ramp, not necessarily parking because my understanding

765
01:12:25,710 --> 01:12:30,930
is that that triggers a federal environmental study or something along those lines so much.

766
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:39,890
If I use, if I use restore money, it's going to, I'm incredibly wrong. I think it is

767
01:12:39,890 --> 01:12:44,610
we can get about 10 additional boats, but the rules, the rules, the rules are going to be

768
01:12:44,610 --> 01:12:47,870
brought down on us because of putting in those 10.

769
01:12:47,870 --> 01:12:53,150
And we think there's a better and easier, a better way to fund it than to use federal funds

770
01:12:53,150 --> 01:12:53,910
on that.

771
01:12:54,830 --> 01:12:59,930
Also, I mean, it would be something that has me budgeting and I'll come and budget, but

772
01:13:00,310 --> 01:13:00,590
okay.

773
01:13:01,330 --> 01:13:06,270
Now, what about dock improvements out there, anything along those lines?

774
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:10,950
Is that trigger the same kind of study if we get into it with store funds?

775
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:29,870
And the recommendation and restore committee is to use it for big impactful projects because of the rules that are involved because we, right now, right now we want to go out there and do the improvements to repair the storm damage to the boat ramp and the dots.

776
01:13:29,870 --> 01:13:34,010
We're waiting on a core engineers from which makes no sense to me now.

777
01:13:34,450 --> 01:13:42,690
If we had, if this were county money and not family money, I just grabbed and do it and asked for forgiveness later.

778
01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:47,550
Because in my opinion we're just wish to know what was there and I think we've got right to do that.

779
01:13:48,250 --> 01:13:55,110
Okay, but since I've got payment involved in it, I've got to make sure that we are eligible to be reimbursed to a family.

780
01:13:55,110 --> 01:14:00,490
and the throne of the federal agency in there just is going to additionally

781
01:14:00,490 --> 01:14:03,570
come out of the issue. I don't want to do that. I'm just trying to get the most

782
01:14:03,570 --> 01:14:08,170
bang for it but, Commissioner, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know you're very

783
01:14:08,170 --> 01:14:12,290
aware of this, but for the benefit of the new board members, I feel I need to

784
01:14:12,290 --> 01:14:24,790
throw this out. When the board unanimously basically supported the pursuit of the

785
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:28,750
up was existing businesses on that property.

786
01:14:29,930 --> 01:14:31,250
And, correct me, if I'm wrong Mr. Chairman,

787
01:14:31,470 --> 01:14:33,590
this is our position, my position has changed.

788
01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:39,110
And that is, as we are 100% behind this initiative,

789
01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:43,890
we don't want anything that would occur to impact those businesses.

790
01:14:44,090 --> 01:14:45,750
In other words, we would hate to see a business

791
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:49,390
go out of business because we acquired a partner's

792
01:14:49,390 --> 01:14:50,090
on something down there.

793
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:54,030
And from the beginning, and I believe Chairman Carram

794
01:14:54,030 --> 01:14:59,970
was in agreement with us. We would not do anything and take any steps that would cause that to happen.

795
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,620
So, I'm just laying that out there so that everybody's aware of it, because as we start down this path, if we're in agreement to continue moving forward, that was one of the prerequisites that however this was structured, it wouldn't make it so, I give an example of the county, you know what happens if the county ends up buying a building that a business is in, we have to bid out that opportunity for other businesses to be in that business, and I would hate to see established businesses affected by that, so we have to be real careful.

796
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,700
as we support this move forward with this that it's structured so it might take a combination

797
01:15:34,700 --> 01:15:39,320
of deals you know so I guess what we're saying is if we're all in agreement that we want

798
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:44,540
to do this we just need to be careful how we structure it and put it together so that we all

799
01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:48,240
end up with what we think we're going to you know end up with and that was almost too much

800
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:55,580
kitchen great point I agree 100 percent you know that they they they have put many many years

801
01:15:55,580 --> 01:15:59,880
and building that business at long working the waterways.

802
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,660
So there's no way in, and I would put any business in jeopardy,

803
01:16:04,820 --> 01:16:08,620
especially that business at all because my family would hang me

804
01:16:08,620 --> 01:16:11,260
for giving me something like that, okay, because they're also working.

805
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,300
And I grew up on the water working, okay.

806
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,500
So I know how hard of a business it is.

807
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,480
It's a growing, long days, nights.

808
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:22,320
So I support everything that's down there, I'll continue to support

809
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,460
everything that's down there and there's no way that I would harm a business

810
01:16:26,460 --> 01:16:31,620
that's flourishing and bringing good economic impact to that area by no means.

811
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,300
So, can we hear as any other discussions?

812
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,820
Can I ask does the administrator have, I was just, I was just, I was about the next.

813
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,940
Well, here we have a direction.

814
01:16:44,740 --> 01:16:51,480
Here are the projects that I've heard you want delineated and a little more,

815
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:55,960
or thought be put into the cost, the numbers, and the structure.

816
01:16:57,100 --> 01:17:03,440
The crystal of the boardwalk, which has been there before, the artificial reef fishing

817
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:14,040
habitat creation, the sportsman's cove boat ramp, the sunset park acquisition, and I

818
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:19,780
want to reiterate something that was said earlier, please note since these are federal rules

819
01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:24,040
I know there's been talk about using a non-profit or not.

820
01:17:24,260 --> 01:17:29,980
I don't know the impact of these federal rules, or on that, I mean, I think it's a cleaner

821
01:17:29,980 --> 01:17:35,540
deal if we let that business buy their own business property.

822
01:17:36,140 --> 01:17:42,360
I think the Fed's understand that better include the dockage because frankly, I don't recommend

823
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:49,000
that I won't recommend that the county being involved in releasing business, we do a lousy job

824
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,300
And I definitely don't want to be a dogmaster.

825
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,580
I've been there before and I didn't work well.

826
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,340
I know, city that I was in.

827
01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:00,980
We got the cost for the barge canal boat ramp.

828
01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:05,460
We got the Kings Bay, a sprinkle of water quality treatment.

829
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,080
We got the U.S. 19 first name, the Duke.

830
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:14,080
And we got the city of Crystal River boat ramp for a million dollars.

831
01:18:14,300 --> 01:18:18,520
And I'm assuming a 50-50 match, assuming that all that goes

832
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,040
and we can get some contributions in it.

833
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:28,340
I think we're in the ballpark for making it structure around the, around what we're

834
01:18:28,340 --> 01:18:31,060
going to be receiving in the store funds.

835
01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:34,560
I think we're in the ballpark, and I can't tell you how to do some moves.

836
01:18:34,820 --> 01:18:42,440
Now I would like to see Justin as the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the sportsman's

837
01:18:42,440 --> 01:18:43,080
kind of in the country.

838
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:43,980
We're about ram now.

839
01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:48,280
We'd love to have them all and hopefully in time, we can get all these boat ramps.

840
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,960
work and put it into place. But I would like to see him kind of the bottom of the

841
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,460
the wish list and the others of which one's up.

842
01:18:56,740 --> 01:19:01,180
Well, I, you know, the sportsman's code about ramping the Chris River by ramp. Well,

843
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:05,520
really don't know where that's going. We don't have much information on that. So I want

844
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,540
to see them at the bottom of the list at this point.

845
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:15,160
Well, and we have to do some refinement because I'm, I'm over in the morning, but I'm looking

846
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,720
And it matches and contributions, which I don't know.

847
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,480
I know on the board you can out boat ramp that we have had, there have been discussions

848
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:27,000
with the state over a couple of years, it's going to be, we believe, on the green ways

849
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,160
of trails planned.

850
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:32,000
So we're comfortable that they're all going to make a contribution there.

851
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:38,240
I don't know what the willingness or their funding availability is because the state budget

852
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,180
is pretty tight for the next few years.

853
01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:47,180
use for any additional boat ramps, but we'll have to ask, I mean right now I am over

854
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,620
on it without some kind of match on some of these projects.

855
01:19:52,060 --> 01:19:55,760
And that's kind of what I was getting at it, you know, I knew that we were kind of over.

856
01:19:55,940 --> 01:20:00,880
So that was how to level slide to the bottom, just to make sure that we're in our parameters

857
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,180
and getting the other projects done.

858
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:12,880
The sportsman scope, even if we take off the boat ramp part of it, that property, that

859
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:19,580
property acquisition there, gets us into a conversation with Senator Simpson, who wants

860
01:20:19,580 --> 01:20:24,500
a facility for he wants restroom facilities closer to the head waters.

861
01:20:24,500 --> 01:20:32,980
the sunset park area is further down river where there's already

862
01:20:32,980 --> 01:20:38,220
restrooms facilities, written quickly, but as having a meeting on Friday with

863
01:20:38,220 --> 01:20:43,680
Senator Simpson, what he's looking at is we're working right now trying to

864
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:49,420
figure out something he actually wants a bathroom at the head, okay, not even at

865
01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:59,980
He wants something that's very close to where everybody is parking, where it's very easy access to go to the restroom,

866
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,060
where she just sits in the water.

867
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,500
He feels that will help the people in his life also.

868
01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:08,400
So we are trying to accommodate Jeff as working on that now.

869
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:14,660
So we're trying to accommodate something right off the fifth bowl that they could almost swim to go to the restroom.

870
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:18,700
Okay, I should support Ms. Kover, so that's you know, I didn't want to throw that out there.

871
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:27,740
So that's where he would like to see one that this very close to where everybody's hanging out where that they can get easy access to to help the nutrients.

872
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:29,180
Okay.

873
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,340
We'll leave it at that.

874
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,700
I'm going to comment, Mr. Chairman.

875
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:34,300
Yes, sir.

876
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:35,080
Thank you.

877
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,360
I think what's important about this has been great discussion.

878
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:43,520
I think what's important is when you made our presentations of legislative delegation,

879
01:21:43,900 --> 01:21:47,760
You're able to stand up and say the entire board, you know, endlessly supports this.

880
01:21:48,220 --> 01:21:52,300
I think, you know, it's great having these discussions and you can't have too many discussions

881
01:21:52,300 --> 01:21:56,460
but in the end it has to come down that it's going to be given take and we need to, you know, once

882
01:21:56,460 --> 01:22:01,220
we come together to say this, we think is the best use of the money, you know, we'll do as much

883
01:22:01,220 --> 01:22:05,360
as we can with what we can, we should try to be as much as possible, we should try to be

884
01:22:05,780 --> 01:22:06,480
unanimous on this.

885
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:11,120
I just want to throw up one little thing, just for folks to start thinking about, as

886
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,340
As we move along, I know this is really going to be turning into quite an interesting exercise.

887
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:19,520
Let's let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's say example the sunset park or access to the river.

888
01:22:20,060 --> 01:22:24,200
Um, there might be things that there might be state funding available, we might be able to use or restore funding.

889
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,700
It might be interest down there that dealing with businesses and stuff like that.

890
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:37,980
So I'm just encouraging everybody to think out of the box, you know, perhaps we might not be able to use federal money dealing with non-profits down there

891
01:22:37,980 --> 01:22:43,680
in the operation or something, but perhaps state money, we could be used through an unprofit,

892
01:22:45,220 --> 01:22:49,800
perhaps there's other avenues, so all I'm saying is that if we see going one avenue, if

893
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,000
it doesn't work that way, there might be, as long as the county's in support, last year

894
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,540
the county would operate, would own and operate the park, but we don't want to be in the

895
01:22:58,540 --> 01:23:03,400
business leasing and dock leasing, yet I think there's much to be said for a working

896
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:11,160
waterfront down there. So if a local group down there, a nonprofit is formed or is now formed

897
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:16,780
and wants to take that on, I think if the county somehow or another backed that up with

898
01:23:16,780 --> 01:23:21,660
our blessing, there might be a way to have that group somehow or another work with the management

899
01:23:21,660 --> 01:23:25,500
of the things that the county doesn't want to. So again, it's early out there, but I guess

900
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:29,000
what I'm just trying to say is we need to kind of keep everybody keep their thinking cats on

901
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,920
say instead of saying we can't do this we have to say this is where we want to get to.

902
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,260
Where do we have to make anything line up to get to.

903
01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:35,640
Thank you.

904
01:23:35,780 --> 01:23:36,140
Appreciate it coming.

905
01:23:37,140 --> 01:23:37,580
Yes.

906
01:23:37,860 --> 01:23:42,020
From a federal perspective the only thing I want to make sure is we have a clear delineation

907
01:23:42,020 --> 01:23:47,000
and from a federal perspective the federal project for example there I would like to see

908
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,980
is to buy the property that makes it clean the feds will on the other stuff.

909
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,700
Then we can work on the other stuff.

910
01:23:53,980 --> 01:23:58,560
What I don't know the answer to is whether they're going to put in strings on this

911
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:03,880
would say we have to continue to own it, or there are any restrictions as it relates to

912
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,100
the least it, because unfortunately with federal money comes federal rules and we're just

913
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:11,760
going to have to figure that out.

914
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,220
The other one that I want to make sure of is non-profits are great and they have a great

915
01:24:16,220 --> 01:24:16,880
intent.

916
01:24:17,820 --> 01:24:22,440
Okay, but the non-profit has got to be sustainable over many years.

917
01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:26,720
Governments are going to be here in 100 years, the non-profit, I'm not so sure about.

918
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:35,200
And if if if if you know the nonprofit ever goes away I don't want the call for taxpayers like county anything

919
01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:39,880
Well, thank you, Mr. Oliver. We appreciate that. Well, one thing I would say

920
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,000
Let's take it one step at a time

921
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:49,540
The first step as he is is acquiring the property and then we'll go to step two step three to make sure

922
01:24:50,460 --> 01:25:04,540
everybody's covered, everybody's covered, everybody's happy down there. I think if we take it one step at a time, this is a great community. We work well together and I think that we're going to make this happen.

923
01:25:04,540 --> 01:25:10,660
And you know, one thing I want to throw out here that I've been thinking about and, you know,

924
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:15,400
I do believe that if that marsh can out butt ramp when it goes, I think you're going

925
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,960
to see the possibly the Coast Guard, want to put it to the facility out there.

926
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:24,720
You know, they're kind of hindering on the with the Kitchie River right now, sometimes they

927
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,820
have to deal with ties.

928
01:25:26,140 --> 01:25:30,880
And I think that once that butt ramp is built, not facilities put in, I think you're going

929
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:31,700
to see some activity.

930
01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:39,700
And I definitely think you're going to see such a county that would keep some money and if they invest it out there, so I'm kind of excited about about that.

931
01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:42,380
So what's that in the other comments?

932
01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:47,760
Yeah, being that, I'm a post start member and I'm very familiar with the station of the 90 town.

933
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:54,640
Not that I've been stationed there, but they've always talked about moving their facility over near FWC, and that's been going on for years.

934
01:25:54,640 --> 01:26:01,440
So, and going out of yanketown is very times consuming, getting out to the golf with any

935
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:01,940
to respond.

936
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,840
So, I do see something like that going on.

937
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,820
It's going to take a few more years, obviously, with air budget, they're kind of in the

938
01:26:07,820 --> 01:26:11,220
Coast Guard budget every year, but I do see something like that coming.

939
01:26:11,420 --> 01:26:18,040
Well, hopefully the drop train is going to put the money back in, but with that we appreciate

940
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:24,040
that because, you know, I forgot, Brian, you're still with the Coast Guard, we're glad

941
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,700
to definitely have you as an active member,

942
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,760
and we look forward to working with the Coast Guard

943
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,280
to make sure we can get something done.

944
01:26:31,780 --> 01:26:33,040
So that's a plus.

945
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,300
So with that, to make sure there's any other comments,

946
01:26:36,980 --> 01:26:38,340
I think, Randy, you have a good direction.

947
01:26:38,980 --> 01:26:39,380
I do.

948
01:26:39,620 --> 01:26:42,540
I would expect that this will come back to you

949
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:44,800
in February at a board meeting.

950
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:49,120
May take some refinement, but not later in the first meeting

951
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,600
in March, so we can hit the time frame set up.

952
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:52,460
Thank you.

953
01:26:52,460 --> 01:26:59,660
With that we are going to go open to the public, come on up Rodney, I know you want to talk.

954
01:27:00,700 --> 01:27:02,680
And we would love to hear from you.

955
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:05,540
This is a matter of homicassism.

956
01:27:06,460 --> 01:27:09,600
Mr. Rodney McCrae has been a mayor there for quite a number of years.

957
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,500
I know you put me on a spot.

958
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:19,680
One of the commissioners, I saw the attorney cranes a little bit when Randy said,

959
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,860
If it was up to me, I'd just replace that doc out there with no permits.

960
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,660
And mine's you have some other meetings.

961
01:27:27,780 --> 01:27:28,840
Yes, Tommy Cringe.

962
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:29,660
Yes, indeed.

963
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:37,760
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for from input from the public.

964
01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:42,600
But if I'm here to help you rank these projects, I would put Sunset Park right at the top.

965
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:47,640
My first question was going to be, where did Sunset Park come from?

966
01:27:48,620 --> 01:27:55,720
But I found out that our Yankee friend back there, not that there's anything wrong with that.

967
01:27:56,060 --> 01:27:59,600
Came up with Sunset Park as a name way back in the day.

968
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,940
There were several concerns and I won't spend the commission's time on all of them, but

969
01:28:05,940 --> 01:28:10,480
we have talked with Randy Randy has been a very great help in getting as far as we've gotten

970
01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:12,220
with this thing as you have.

971
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:15,880
the issue of the county getting the leasing business,

972
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,080
we don't want the county in leasing business, see that.

973
01:28:18,140 --> 01:28:21,360
Quite frankly, nothing to rock it to worry about this,

974
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,220
but we don't want the county involved in it at all.

975
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,480
We want you to purchase the property for us,

976
01:28:26,580 --> 01:28:28,880
but we would like to have the run of things down there.

977
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,180
And we've put things mechanisms in place

978
01:28:31,180 --> 01:28:32,800
that will allow us to do that.

979
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,780
And if we ever fall behind and can't do that,

980
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,320
then there's another item that was talked about in its NMSB

981
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:46,280
that would be put in place that if the society that took it over could no longer do it

982
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:51,120
then there would be a mechanism in there that would provide for the funding of the parts.

983
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,720
So that's to be discussed, but I'm absolutely thrilled that you guys are getting involved

984
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:02,160
with us to help us purchase that thing with these money or matching money from a state or

985
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:11,320
but it's just I'm excited really excited about it. The sportsman's property from what Randy

986
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:20,160
had said he wanted to see the money if I remember correctly what he said. He wanted to see those

987
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:27,460
money from the restore to the purchase to property not to build the infrastructure on the property

988
01:29:27,460 --> 01:29:33,520
But to purchase a property, Clarepha, Brandy, Brandy, Brandy, Brandy, you want me to introduce

989
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:33,760
Chair?

990
01:29:33,820 --> 01:29:35,000
Yes, I mean, if you ever thought so.

991
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:35,440
I mean, I thought so.

992
01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:41,660
That was what Commissioner Canards suggested, because the little, like a funding was to use the,

993
01:29:41,660 --> 01:29:44,500
because we don't have enough money to fund all those projects,

994
01:29:44,900 --> 01:29:45,780
including that.

995
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:51,860
We also don't know to be fair at this point if there's any state participation that may be available

996
01:29:51,860 --> 01:29:59,980
to fund that, but what the original did that I talked about was to put

997
01:30:00,110 --> 01:30:04,890
I would note that that property is uniquely shaped.

998
01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:17,450
Well, homocess is unique in and of itself, but we won't go there. That's a piece of property that is at the present, not developed.

999
01:30:17,450 --> 01:30:26,410
They've got a lot of grandfathering zoning there that they could put in 40 something mobile homes.

1000
01:30:28,210 --> 01:30:33,630
I think if you bypass the trying to purchase that property now, it may be lost.

1001
01:30:34,210 --> 01:30:41,730
And there's not any other land down in Homassasso that has the facilities that could be put in that place.

1002
01:30:41,730 --> 01:30:49,390
So I think that don't try to figure out what to do with it, he'll buy it and let us run it.

1003
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:52,090
We're hopefully going to run the other park.

1004
01:30:52,670 --> 01:30:57,790
The same organization could take over that one and fund doing the infrastructure there and put

1005
01:30:57,790 --> 01:31:00,170
the ramp, put the docs in, put the parking, whatever.

1006
01:31:00,770 --> 01:31:02,450
But please try to buy the land.

1007
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:08,350
Put that on a higher scale and at least get the land bought, so it's out of the

1008
01:31:12,010 --> 01:31:19,370
And the last, but not least, is I'm with you on the barge canal, right?

1009
01:31:19,950 --> 01:31:21,210
Don't give it up.

1010
01:31:22,110 --> 01:31:26,050
And if you can get leavey county and the rest of those guys to go along with it,

1011
01:31:26,050 --> 01:31:27,410
then that's just going to be even better.

1012
01:31:27,550 --> 01:31:32,250
But I think that's, if it's not needed today, it's certainly going to be needed tomorrow

1013
01:31:32,250 --> 01:31:35,530
just like the one at sportsman's.

1014
01:31:35,530 --> 01:31:37,750
And if you let it go, you might not ever get it.

1015
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:42,230
But, hey, thanks for the opportunity to stand up here and talk to you.

1016
01:31:45,410 --> 01:31:47,630
Commissioner, you're the district for Crystal River?

1017
01:31:48,030 --> 01:31:48,330
Yes, sir.

1018
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:48,990
All right.

1019
01:31:49,210 --> 01:31:50,730
After the meeting, you'll take a break.

1020
01:31:50,890 --> 01:31:54,150
I'd like to talk to you personally about the couple issues there.

1021
01:31:54,150 --> 01:31:54,950
Yeah, you bet.

1022
01:31:55,710 --> 01:31:55,810
You bet.

1023
01:31:55,810 --> 01:31:56,070
You bet.

1024
01:31:56,170 --> 01:31:56,210
You bet.

1025
01:31:56,210 --> 01:31:56,230
You bet.

1026
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:56,490
You bet.

1027
01:31:57,770 --> 01:31:58,410
Next speaker,

1028
01:32:02,130 --> 01:32:03,170
please.

1029
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:05,790
Make sure we get please everybody.

1030
01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:12,550
If you're a green card out, take who you are, your address, so the Clerk and Court has all your information.

1031
01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:14,290
Please.

1032
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:15,750
I have some notes here.

1033
01:32:16,090 --> 01:32:16,610
That's fine.

1034
01:32:16,750 --> 01:32:17,270
I'm being out for you.

1035
01:32:17,310 --> 01:32:19,710
The make sure we fill the green card out to hand it in.

1036
01:32:19,770 --> 01:32:20,170
I did.

1037
01:32:20,170 --> 01:32:20,490
Yes, sir.

1038
01:32:20,670 --> 01:32:20,950
Thank you.

1039
01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:22,670
My name is Steve Tresnek.

1040
01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:26,270
I am the Vice President for a Level Fishing Club.

1041
01:32:26,690 --> 01:32:28,330
It's called Citrus Fishing Club.

1042
01:32:28,370 --> 01:32:30,690
We have approximately 75 members.

1043
01:32:31,550 --> 01:32:35,410
The reason why I'm here today is to support the barge canal.

1044
01:32:35,410 --> 01:32:43,130
all the other areas are in need of help also, and we've recognized that. But the fact that

1045
01:32:43,130 --> 01:32:50,330
the land is available up there is a big cost issue. The parking that Brian was talking

1046
01:32:50,330 --> 01:32:56,590
about is five times worse than we used to, because I fish out of there all the time, and

1047
01:32:56,590 --> 01:33:02,530
I've got a 19-foot boat in getting it in and out of there's a problem, but parking is another

1048
01:33:02,530 --> 01:33:12,870
issues. So it just needs to go forward. That is the area. As for economics goes, a lot of

1049
01:33:12,870 --> 01:33:19,830
the people that fish the barge can now. After they fish the barge can now, they go down

1050
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:26,150
in the crystal river and they get lunch, they buy some bait and stuff for the next trip out,

1051
01:33:26,190 --> 01:33:32,150
everything. So it is being supported. It's not like it's being thumped out. But you have to

1052
01:33:32,150 --> 01:33:36,450
Remember, that is part of the county up there like you were talking about up and across

1053
01:33:36,450 --> 01:33:37,370
to bridge.

1054
01:33:38,290 --> 01:33:44,530
So we have to keep those people, I think, that because the land is so valuable, now all the

1055
01:33:44,530 --> 01:33:53,430
way out, 40, that a lot of businesses will sprout up as soon as that large canal gets moving.

1056
01:33:54,770 --> 01:34:00,310
I just want to make a little comment about these are notes that were given to me by different

1057
01:34:00,310 --> 01:34:09,030
people know order. They're just some ideas and thoughts. Some part was made about trying

1058
01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:15,510
to get a party boat up there, and that's, I know that's a pines guy thing, but the water

1059
01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:20,590
is deep water verbal. If you try to do that at a crystal river or you try to do it out

1060
01:34:20,590 --> 01:34:26,750
of hermosacis, it's much more difficult to admit to me for a bigger boat up and down

1061
01:34:26,750 --> 01:34:31,990
areas so the barge can now would be a great opportunity for that.

1062
01:34:37,460 --> 01:34:38,620
I'm not going to go through

1063
01:34:38,620 --> 01:34:43,020
these the items one by one because it doesn't make any sense but I'm just going to read

1064
01:34:43,020 --> 01:34:49,100
it right again that our fishing club, the people all of the fishermen that I've talked to,

1065
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:55,880
think that the barge can now is needed now, has been needed for several years. I've been

1066
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:01,060
for eight years and I know that for the last four years it just seems like it's worse and worse and worse.

1067
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:07,740
So I would try to encourage everybody to get that project moving as soon as you can.

1068
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:11,920
Thank you for being here. We appreciate it. Next speaker please.

1069
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:20,330
It's a nice mirror.

1070
01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:23,970
I'm not the NBA team.

1071
01:35:26,730 --> 01:35:29,290
Sunset Park. You guys hold on to paperwork.

1072
01:35:29,790 --> 01:35:32,510
That was the first name I gave to that park.

1073
01:35:33,110 --> 01:35:57,590
The access to a river committee has morphed over the last two years or more into many things and it has involved everyone in the community every group, the River Alliance, the Civic Club, the Heritage Council, the Fisherman's Guide, every one of those groups are represented in that committee.

1074
01:35:58,870 --> 01:36:07,250
The vision for the park, since that park, because Moa Park completed, that's a no story,

1075
01:36:08,670 --> 01:36:17,850
was that as it turns out, the old homosasa, historical preservation society, would like

1076
01:36:17,850 --> 01:36:19,490
to run that park.

1077
01:36:19,490 --> 01:36:32,630
They want it as a working fishing community, everybody stays forever and they would like to run, particularly, the museum.

1078
01:36:33,310 --> 01:36:38,790
There's a historical building on the property that they would like to convert into a museum.

1079
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:46,870
And that would be a great little tourist destination for anybody in the county.

1080
01:36:47,310 --> 01:36:56,970
I mean, we have stuff parked in bonds all over over Massasa, fishing gear, all kinds of antique

1081
01:36:56,970 --> 01:36:58,650
going back hundreds of years.

1082
01:36:59,530 --> 01:37:02,510
That everybody is said, we know where this is.

1083
01:37:02,750 --> 01:37:06,530
We'd love to have a spot to put it in.

1084
01:37:06,530 --> 01:37:15,150
I'd say in all of that, I didn't know what, since that part was for a minute, aside from that,

1085
01:37:15,950 --> 01:37:24,010
what are the priorities, and the reason why sportsmen's clothes became important

1086
01:37:24,010 --> 01:37:32,050
put everybody in old home and size that loves that spot. Nobody is going to be happy when this

1087
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:41,730
developer puts 46 mobile homes there. That is going to be a mind-bodling experience to you guys,

1088
01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:48,530
because this rule would be full of people. But aside from all of that,

1089
01:37:51,620 --> 01:37:53,120
there's the new committee,

1090
01:37:53,120 --> 01:38:04,700
Oh, and the preservation is a 501, C3, by the way, the old historical preservation society is a 501.

1091
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:10,100
They currently own the water tower, then you guys pass over to them.

1092
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:20,040
But the enforcement's code property becomes important for the restoration project of the river.

1093
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:26,860
They will need a spot to put all of this staging equipment to start that process.

1094
01:38:27,620 --> 01:38:33,620
So we're all hoping that somewhere is confined, somebody can find some seed money to help

1095
01:38:33,620 --> 01:38:41,380
this new group, the Homosasa Restoration River Restoration Project, so that they can get

1096
01:38:41,380 --> 01:38:41,600
gone.

1097
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:49,460
I know that there haven't been meetings this week at Clearwater with Howard Miller, Gator

1098
01:38:49,460 --> 01:38:53,100
Dredging, and that is going full force.

1099
01:38:53,340 --> 01:38:59,640
They are meeting me a few times a week, so we are really there, and the President of New

1100
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,860
President now is Steve Vingai.

1101
01:39:03,580 --> 01:39:10,240
I would like to finish up to say, he's a great guy, he's a hard worker, and he's a very

1102
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:13,560
Thank you.

1103
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Thank you.

1104
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:14,720
Thank you.

1105
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:15,240
Thank you.

1106
01:39:18,860 --> 01:39:18,880
Thank you.

1107
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:21,160
Thank you.

1108
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:22,940
Uh-huh.

1109
01:39:23,140 --> 01:39:24,660
Again, my name is Stephen Guy.

1110
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:26,900
I live in almost asum.

1111
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:30,540
And when this all first started, and I saw Crystal River Crystal River Crystal River Crystal River Crystal River.

1112
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:31,480
I'm like, really?

1113
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,220
What about us?

1114
01:39:33,580 --> 01:39:35,960
Uh, it is nice to see that you are thinking about us.

1115
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:42,180
So as far as Sportsman Co goes, please consider that.

1116
01:39:42,460 --> 01:39:45,680
If for nothing else than whatever, you know, Rodney Rodney Rodney said,

1117
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:50,060
I just said it's a great piece of property.

1118
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:51,220
It's going to go away.

1119
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,520
40 mobile homes up on blocks, come on.

1120
01:39:54,980 --> 01:39:55,020
Yes.

1121
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,820
So consider that.

1122
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,380
Commission, I've never launched a boat ramp, a boat at McRays.

1123
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,620
So I'm just talking here.

1124
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:10,480
I've talked to folks though that this past summer we didn't an hour and a half to launch or to put their their votes

1125
01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:16,180
I'm not sure if additional parking fixes that I again. I've never done this here. So, sorry

1126
01:40:17,180 --> 01:40:22,600
I don't know but but it is bad at the ramp and I'm just not sure additional parking fixes that

1127
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,780
mixture clean water. We can have all parks in the world

1128
01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:31,020
If our rivers are down the tubes, it doesn't do so any good

1129
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:38,060
St. Chris Orber is working very hard on doing what they can. Our new project can

1130
01:40:38,060 --> 01:40:42,560
hom assess the river. Models of theirs, identically, we're going to try to use

1131
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:47,040
gatoridrudging. We're going to try to use the same process to clean up the river.

1132
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:52,440
We do need a staging error, as that was just mentioned, and enforcement code would work

1133
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:59,300
for that. Now, gator pays for that right. That's not free. There will be a lease agreement.

1134
01:40:59,300 --> 01:41:02,620
Money comes back to the county. I don't know how much I don't know numbers

1135
01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:09,020
But it's just a possibility something to think about they're gonna need spot. They're gonna pay for it

1136
01:41:09,020 --> 01:41:12,780
Okay, all the money that's coming from that is not local money. It's a state money

1137
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,340
We have a senator who owns a house on the home of Sassarita

1138
01:41:17,740 --> 01:41:23,220
That's not a lock. I'm getting money, but it's sure it doesn't hurt. Okay, so I think we're gonna move forward on all this

1139
01:41:23,220 --> 01:41:26,160
for some of the beef.

1140
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:28,380
Wow.

1141
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,400
I will finish it.

1142
01:41:30,460 --> 01:41:30,980
Not a minute.

1143
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:36,880
Mr. Oliver, I know you're concerned somewhat about just cleaning the canals and just

1144
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,720
helping the canals are an integral part of our rivers nowadays.

1145
01:41:41,380 --> 01:41:46,920
Whether they're good bad to there, cleaning them does help the river overall.

1146
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:55,100
We're hoping also to extend what they've done in up in Chris the River to the actual river

1147
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:55,920
in home sense of.

1148
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:00,520
We're not just taught we're hoping that we're not just talking like an ounce, we're talking

1149
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:01,440
more than that.

1150
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:07,480
So going forward, I think this project, and we're going to push this project forward, we

1151
01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:11,660
may come and ask for a little seed money, I mean there's surveys, there's some things we

1152
01:42:11,660 --> 01:42:15,660
have to do as a group that we need some help with.

1153
01:42:15,660 --> 01:42:22,820
But most of the funding will be state, but we need to move forward with the fourth name, with getting septic cancer.

1154
01:42:23,060 --> 01:42:24,520
It's all the whole thing in y'all.

1155
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:28,360
You're going to go ahead and wrap up.

1156
01:42:28,420 --> 01:42:29,260
You get my point.

1157
01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:30,000
Thank you.

1158
01:42:30,140 --> 01:42:30,800
Thank you.

1159
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:31,960
Next speaker, please.

1160
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:41,400
You're in a bad situation.

1161
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,320
Everybody in such a county does not have a boat.

1162
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:46,740
It was stated up there.

1163
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:53,400
So a boat ramp would be a last on my wish list and a lot of other people's.

1164
01:42:53,400 --> 01:43:02,960
Okay, since that part is a people-driven project which will benefit citizens and visitors and it is a wonderful project.

1165
01:43:02,980 --> 01:43:10,160
I was here when they first came, I was here when they came back, I think it should be one of the top things that you put in there since that part.

1166
01:43:12,340 --> 01:43:20,940
Now, the benefits of putting a forced main. It will be beneficial for years to come to all citizens and visitors by keeping our waters cleaner.

1167
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:26,780
One of the topics discussed at the Commissioners' goal setting retreat was mortar and

1168
01:43:26,780 --> 01:43:29,100
so similar to all of the citrus county.

1169
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:35,820
This is a crossing time-lead venture, but it needs to get started somewhere.

1170
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:44,160
Since we were reminded by Mr. Oliver that this is found money, let's use some of this

1171
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:48,040
down right for a foreshman budget up US-19.

1172
01:43:49,580 --> 01:43:54,600
And the other months, you also get a rare news change

1173
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:59,980
for additional RB sites, most of the boys can now.

1174
01:44:00,260 --> 01:44:03,020
Could we make sure that the new boys' main goals

1175
01:44:03,020 --> 01:44:08,820
all the way up there, so they have to hook up to it.

1176
01:44:08,820 --> 01:44:11,140
Because they have, if we bring up their one year,

1177
01:44:11,140 --> 01:44:18,420
or 265V from the moment period, according to what we agreed to with them, to sign up and

1178
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:22,960
we have a customer, a paying customer, a big paying customer.

1179
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:30,600
Okay, are there any opportunities to the grant money if we were to do the forced main?

1180
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:32,560
Okay,

1181
01:44:34,580 --> 01:44:40,840
let's see, doing this with doing these two projects, the forced main and the sunset.

1182
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:48,260
One noise project, one sound project, funding will be increased, but yes, we are going to still do crystal river.

1183
01:44:48,740 --> 01:44:49,860
You know, that's in the center.

1184
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:57,860
But one of the things in your mission statements says you are going to promote the best quality of life for our citizens.

1185
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:28,000
We think about spending this found money, think about all of the citizens. Is it going to benefit people in a mess, floral city, her nando, you know, citrus brings, heavily hills, these type of projects will benefit clean water needs to start and a forced main project will start to keep our clean water clean. Thank you.

1186
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,320
Thank you.

1187
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:30,620
Next speaker, please.

1188
01:45:47,130 --> 01:45:51,050
Mr. Chairman, there was a board with little say and say, by the bill.

1189
01:45:53,010 --> 01:45:58,630
My name is Pixie Hollins, owner and operator of such as money and timber, property

1190
01:45:58,630 --> 01:46:01,530
loaded, locate them in the west side of the crossword barge canal.

1191
01:46:02,890 --> 01:46:06,930
I'm very excited about the old comments here today.

1192
01:46:07,410 --> 01:46:13,310
I think there's an opportunity here for improvement of the entire citrus county, whom

1193
01:46:13,310 --> 01:46:19,070
sass area, Christian area, and hopefully on the Northwest part of Sitzers County.

1194
01:46:20,690 --> 01:46:23,150
The first thing I'd like to talk about is your reef project.

1195
01:46:24,370 --> 01:46:29,890
I'm all in favor of restoring the funds to continue the reef project.

1196
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:35,650
It's kind of been on a bans because the economics and there's material sitting there

1197
01:46:35,650 --> 01:46:41,770
from the U.S. 19 bridge demolition that's sitting on state-gringly trails, which I'm

1198
01:46:41,770 --> 01:46:46,270
I want to talk to you all about the easement later on today, if you're in the board meeting,

1199
01:46:46,990 --> 01:46:52,650
they can be deployed as soon as you'll get the funding to take it out there.

1200
01:46:53,010 --> 01:46:59,090
I've also worked with several counties and talking to them about a joint effort in Citrus County

1201
01:46:59,090 --> 01:47:06,150
to make reef balls upon the course where the bars can now have concrete available there.

1202
01:47:06,150 --> 01:47:14,050
we have barge access there to deploy reefs, whether in Fernando, Levy County, or doing effort

1203
01:47:14,050 --> 01:47:14,990
in all three.

1204
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:19,390
And that's a very viable opportunity to do that.

1205
01:47:21,220 --> 01:47:24,160
When you talk about the cross-forward bars, you can now boat ramp.

1206
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:33,960
It is a direct access to the water fishing habitat out there, and it's about 12, 14 foot deep.

1207
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:43,800
The manatee population up there is slam and none, if any, and y'all have the property up there

1208
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,260
and it's owned by the state of Florida.

1209
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:51,300
I think there's an opportunity there, or I saw some funds that I'm not going to get thrown out

1210
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:52,280
of here in a minute.

1211
01:47:53,580 --> 01:48:00,300
I think there's an opportunity that y'all have at least, that you got to do the green-way

1212
01:48:00,300 --> 01:48:03,280
photo-foked for the VP folks for this program.

1213
01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:11,360
And if some of these funds aren't going to be not used or the projects not being used

1214
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:19,960
period, maybe there's an opportunity there to say, let's build this boat ramp, make it small,

1215
01:48:20,740 --> 01:48:28,960
so it can grow, maybe four holes or six holes, but make it so you can expand it, start

1216
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,700
That's your parking small, but you can expand it.

1217
01:48:33,060 --> 01:48:36,540
And maybe take some of this money if you don't use all of it for the program.

1218
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:42,220
Maybe some of this other money and help the green way, which is right across the bars canal,

1219
01:48:42,660 --> 01:48:50,360
to put their very wanting black top road from U.S. 19 out to the end of the Gulf of Mexico,

1220
01:48:50,980 --> 01:48:54,520
which we've called Drupal, the amount of people to use that.

1221
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,340
Because when that landmark road gets bad out there,

1222
01:48:57,340 --> 01:49:10,280
People just don't want to drive down the nasty wet dusty limelok road to go out to the end of the barge canal and that's been on one of their wish list for a long, long time.

1223
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:21,800
And I think it would also give you a better partnership with the DEP on the landlays you're going to have to do with the boat ramp.

1224
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,520
I think it would be a win when I'm sure everybody.

1225
01:49:25,620 --> 01:49:26,380
It is far.

1226
01:49:27,340 --> 01:49:31,540
And yes, I have been and they have been in touch with me in the United States Coast Guard

1227
01:49:32,140 --> 01:49:36,920
on putting up a Coast Guard station on a cross-word barge canal.

1228
01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:41,460
I do know they are moving their boat, bigger boat, to the F-D-B-C.

1229
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:47,560
But their long-term goal is to have their own station with their own land, with their own

1230
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,920
access and not probably share it with the F-D-B-C.

1231
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:58,000
I'm also spoke to the school system, the long time ago, about taking their fishing school

1232
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:03,780
or their education school out on Fort Island Trail and moving it to a safer habitat

1233
01:50:03,780 --> 01:50:08,000
or safer not in arms way out there on it.

1234
01:50:08,380 --> 01:50:12,420
Fort Island Trail gets pretty rough out there, especially during hurricane season.

1235
01:50:13,100 --> 01:50:15,060
Up on the cusp for a barge canal.

1236
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:16,340
Up to there.

1237
01:50:16,340 --> 01:50:30,360
there. As far as the—there's been some discussions of port citrus. We are open, and we'll

1238
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:36,360
continue to have open arms to opportunities here for Citrus County, whether it be private

1239
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:44,140
and public partnership or private to enhance access to the Gulf of Mexico for industrial

1240
01:50:44,140 --> 01:50:49,500
We're working with the pipeline people as we speak today, we're working with the Matt

1241
01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:54,360
people who are in junction with the pipeline people to bring take Matt's in and out.

1242
01:50:54,640 --> 01:51:00,240
We're also working right now with the large reprojects for taking govers down to sink

1243
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:01,220
be chair.

1244
01:51:04,140 --> 01:51:13,540
The programs in Christopher River, I'm all for getting those better, making a bigger

1245
01:51:13,540 --> 01:51:18,600
parking area, but believe me, if you'll shut three down and somebody thinks you don't open

1246
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:23,640
up a new one, I don't think you're able to get in permitted. I've been here too long, I know

1247
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:52,360
with the protection of this, save the manatee, et cetera, et cetera, with that, I'm very supportive of any type of projects we can do to restore beaches, to restore boat ramps, but a boat ramp up on the barge canal, and also I think it's good to have extra places for people to see, as y'all talked about home assess the springs, also Christian River,

1248
01:51:52,360 --> 01:52:00,120
So the waterway is economic gateway, whether it's for the tourism side or the industrial side.

1249
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:01,000
I appreciate it.

1250
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:01,580
I appreciate it.

1251
01:52:01,580 --> 01:52:01,760
Thank you.

1252
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:02,440
Alex, yes.

1253
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:04,640
Next speaker, please.

1254
01:52:08,480 --> 01:52:16,560
Going once, twice we'll go ahead and close the open to the public and we will go ahead and start

1255
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,520
addressing the comments to Mr. McKerrick Kitchen.

1256
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:24,480
I just want to say some real quick Mr. Chairman, great meeting today, great comments from

1257
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:29,960
public just two or three general comments. First of all, it's not about the east side and

1258
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:35,520
the west side. It's not about crystal river and you know whatever, it's about impact to

1259
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:40,680
coastal communities. That's what the restore funds all about. Not every county in Florida is

1260
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:45,300
getting this money. Not every county in the coast in Florida is getting this money. It's the ones

1261
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:51,700
that we're perceived to have some type of impact from the spill. So it would only make sense

1262
01:52:51,700 --> 01:52:55,980
that much of this is driven by water and recreational issues on the water.

1263
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:58,920
So just kind of reminded everybody of that.

1264
01:52:59,180 --> 01:53:03,360
The other is when it comes to these projects, most of these projects were brought to us.

1265
01:53:03,660 --> 01:53:08,140
So when somebody says, why don't you do this for these folks, and these folks, I'd say that

1266
01:53:08,140 --> 01:53:12,740
people that are home assassinated two years ago started on this concept of whatever we're

1267
01:53:12,740 --> 01:53:18,220
going to call it now Sunset Park or whatever, but they stayed with it and they built a

1268
01:53:18,220 --> 01:53:24,040
bond and kept it rolling. And that's how things get done. So, you know, it's very difficult,

1269
01:53:24,380 --> 01:53:28,500
you know, to come up with the last, you know, not once in the last minute, but it's time

1270
01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:32,080
goes long, say, well, why don't you do this and why don't you do that? This has been in the process

1271
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:36,940
for quite a while. We always want to look at it, but I just think those clarifications need to be made

1272
01:53:36,940 --> 01:53:40,720
that it was coastal related. So, thank you, Commissioner Smith.

1273
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:46,760
But actually, I really enjoyed the speakers coming up and I just want to re-enrate something

1274
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:53,840
that was bought up was about the Old Homassassa Heritage Council and one of the things they

1275
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:57,800
talked about was the Restoration Project. Well, two things. You should always advertise when

1276
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:03,220
your meetings are so people know and you have a GoFundMe page that you should consistently

1277
01:54:03,220 --> 01:54:07,580
every time you talk in front of the public, let people know there's a GoFundMe page to help with

1278
01:54:07,580 --> 01:54:12,960
the Restoration Project of the Water Tower and I just want to give you guys a little boost about

1279
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:19,980
Otherwise there's a couple of issues I've never heard of the Matt's terminology.

1280
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:26,160
So if you would, after we're done, I'd like to run more about that, but it's mostly

1281
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:26,520
a whistle.

1282
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:33,140
You know what that is, is when they're laying the pipeline, they're woodmats, and they lay

1283
01:54:33,140 --> 01:54:35,000
down so they can get equipment in and out.

1284
01:54:38,220 --> 01:54:38,740
Okay.

1285
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,760
And again, this is mostly the west side of the county and everything, so as a guy who lives

1286
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,900
on the east side of the county and I've been on a boat other than military, maybe 10 times

1287
01:54:49,900 --> 01:54:51,000
of my entire life.

1288
01:54:51,580 --> 01:54:55,880
You guys, by now, how many boat ramps and where there should be, all of more about as the

1289
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,880
dollars and making sure that the people in the community are on both sides of the county

1290
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:00,380
participating.

1291
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:02,940
So I think this is good meeting today.

1292
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:04,580
Thank you.

1293
01:55:06,660 --> 01:55:14,780
just one comment on what misparers that started bringing up it. You talked about the

1294
01:55:14,780 --> 01:55:19,780
boat ramp being only for people that use boats and I kind of disagree with you. The

1295
01:55:19,780 --> 01:55:34,560
reason why is what I said before about safety of our citizens. One example is the

1296
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:41,420
issue is the full-hour on beach traffic that you have with the boat trailer is down there,

1297
01:55:41,620 --> 01:55:45,160
and it always impedes our people visiting the beach.

1298
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:52,640
If we leave the eight summer that traffic down there makes it easier for our citizens, and

1299
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:57,820
it's also like if you pay the road or your street, who does that benefit, it benefits those

1300
01:55:57,820 --> 01:56:00,640
people on that street and not necessarily the whole county, but we're still going to go ahead

1301
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,100
and go forward with those projects because it is important for the whole community.

1302
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:10,800
So that's one of the reasons why I think that program is very important because it does

1303
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,300
alleviate a lot of issues at other locations throughout the county.

1304
01:56:14,940 --> 01:56:21,220
And like Mr. Kitchen said, these are funds that are for coastal areas.

1305
01:56:22,220 --> 01:56:27,040
These don't affect city of embarrassed, like the view of the city of Christopher River.

1306
01:56:27,460 --> 01:56:28,220
That's so.

1307
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:28,960
Thank you.

1308
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:29,500
Commissioner.

1309
01:56:29,500 --> 01:56:30,340
It's an art.

1310
01:56:30,780 --> 01:56:34,760
Well, I thought we were going to get to one meeting without talking about road repaving,

1311
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:38,440
but let's do 11 hours.

1312
01:56:40,900 --> 01:56:43,140
A couple of comments here.

1313
01:56:43,780 --> 01:56:49,080
Mr. Holland's mentioned the Reefball Project, which I absolutely love.

1314
01:56:49,140 --> 01:56:54,800
When I was President of the Coastal Conservation Association, we really pushed this

1315
01:56:54,800 --> 01:57:03,800
and we're very, very close to getting it done to try and start putting these things in the water out there.

1316
01:57:04,140 --> 01:57:14,100
I like that that idea is there and I would love to see our local CCA chapter as well as possibly the state organization,

1317
01:57:14,660 --> 01:57:17,760
get involved and help to whatever degree that they can.

1318
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:25,700
we actually had support from one of the local concrete manufacturing companies that said

1319
01:57:25,700 --> 01:57:30,600
that they would, they had staff and they would fill these molds at the end of day with trucks

1320
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:35,200
coming in with extra concrete and they said, you know, we'll fill them, we'll pop the molds,

1321
01:57:35,220 --> 01:57:40,480
they'll be sitting there, you guys do something with it. So, I absolutely love the idea.

1322
01:57:41,080 --> 01:58:03,040
At this point, looks like we're getting a barge canal boat ramp, so again, I will echo what I've already said, and I hope that we can get some financial support from our friends to the North, and hopefully we will see a Coast Guard station up there as well. I would like to see that happen.

1323
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,320
Mr. McCray and Mr. Cohen,

1324
01:58:08,940 --> 01:58:14,220
I would again support buying both of those properties as I've

1325
01:58:14,220 --> 01:58:15,120
already said.

1326
01:58:15,780 --> 01:58:24,860
I think that at some point in the future, hopefully it will be used for a home assessor

1327
01:58:24,860 --> 01:58:30,260
river cleanup project, but if at some point, if the county decided that we wanted to

1328
01:58:30,260 --> 01:58:36,900
would aid that property get it out to a developer that wanted to do something very nice with it.

1329
01:58:37,020 --> 01:58:45,260
We could do that at that point I would think, but I would again just echo your support that

1330
01:58:45,260 --> 01:58:47,380
we should be looking at buying both of those properties.

1331
01:58:48,220 --> 01:58:48,820
Thank you, Commissioner.

1332
01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:49,520
Come on.

1333
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,460
And I'll wrap it up.

1334
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,580
First what I want here is clean water, so I want to make it, you know, about the clean waterways.

1335
01:58:55,900 --> 01:59:00,240
Until you get nutrients left off these waterways, it's just going to keep going and

1336
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:07,500
south on us, so the force management is a great idea. Water up due to a great idea. It's

1337
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:11,220
something that has to be taken care of, because we are getting to a minute some amount of

1338
01:59:11,220 --> 01:59:16,260
funding from the state. And until, and we have been, this board has been putting their feet

1339
01:59:16,260 --> 01:59:22,360
forward with different projects as far as fertilizer, things to that nature, and we've got to

1340
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:28,060
keep moving forward. And this is one way to show the state that we're doing our part and then they'll

1341
01:59:28,060 --> 01:59:36,020
funding us to, we've got to take one step at a time or one property at a time. We can only

1342
01:59:36,020 --> 01:59:41,820
fund so much, we can only buy so much. So I do support both properties, down at home,

1343
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:47,080
SaaS up, but again, it's got to be one property at a time and then we can move forward from

1344
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:53,620
that. And last but not least, I don't have a problem with a smaller boat ramp in building a bigger,

1345
01:59:53,620 --> 01:59:59,980
But I don't think I think the fun news here at the time, so I'm not sure how that would work, whether you

1346
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,200
Bill, there's smaller scale than you, where you can expand. I think you're probably better off to go ahead. What's your thoughts on that, Jeff?

1347
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:16,100
The current plans that we have for the barge come out have four days, and then I'm

1348
02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:19,920
sitting beside the bay, you know, this lives on both sides with a lot of access for

1349
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:20,360
boats.

1350
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:25,140
And so the total project is almost over 200 parking places.

1351
02:00:25,580 --> 02:00:29,900
We have the first phase of this, is to build over 60 parking places.

1352
02:00:30,420 --> 02:00:35,160
So we would not even have the ability and infrastructure for the boat ramps, and that would

1353
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:41,160
not phase the boat ramp construction because the majority of that is a lot of that's mobilization giving the people there

1354
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:50,380
and to build another sea wall that are going to feed the 50 feet is the entire mobilization so to kill you to keep that barge back up.

1355
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:58,840
But we're all going to phase the parking as necessary to see if it works if it doesn't work and don't build 200 parking places if it doesn't work.

1356
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:03,180
Okay, thank you. With that, I'm gonna wrap it up. You can

1357
02:01:03,180 --> 02:01:08,240
miss your share of the comments. With that. So you have to see it one. Okay,

1358
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:09,360
with that, we're gonna join the meeting.

1359
02:01:17,500 --> 02:01:18,840
Yeah, that's very easy.

1360
02:01:29,210 --> 02:01:33,390
To change the name of the pot and this is your part.

1361
02:01:34,190 --> 02:01:38,710
Yeah, I have that. Okay, can you change the whole process of the head to the bottom of the

1362
02:01:38,710 --> 02:01:40,890
head to the bottom of the head. Yeah, you need the other one.

1363
02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:44,890
Just make up your mouth. Just make this up.

1364
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:46,070
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.

1365
02:01:46,070 --> 02:01:48,610
I'm done. That's why I said you're right.

1366
02:01:48,790 --> 02:01:49,950
The access to the riverfront.

1367
02:01:50,590 --> 02:01:51,030
John didn't make it in.