1 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:43,500 Good afternoon, 2 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:59,960 everyone. Could you please calm down? We're going to call this meeting to order. I will announce at the very beginning that the jury assembly room is open across the hall on the other side of the building, so if some of you wish to 3 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Have a seat. You can go over there and you'll be able to see everything that's going on and here, everything that's going on and when it comes time to public comment, you'll be able to come in here and make your public comment. 4 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:18,940 But if you choose to wish to stay in and stay, that's your call. Just want to let you know that that's available to. 5 00:15:18,940 --> 00:15:26,980 Okay, so again, this is the regular meeting of the April 26, 2021 Board of Kind of Commissioner's meeting. 6 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:34,860 Today we have Senior Pastor Kevin Ballard from Calvary Chapel in Emberness to lead us in our invocation. 7 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,500 And after that we have our very own veteran Douglas Wright, who's going to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance today. 8 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:45,460 And so those of you who are willing and able, we invite you to stay in at this time, Pastor. 9 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:53,520 Good afternoon, commissioners. Let's pray. Father, we just first and foremost, we express our 10 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,600 eternal gratitude for the breath in our lungs. You've given us another extraordinary day to 11 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:04,880 walk with you, to hear from you, and to live in the greatest nation on the planet, the greatest 12 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,520 state of our nation, and the great county of citrus lord. We do not take this by coincidence. 13 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,440 We 14 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,520 in the citizens of our county have come together because of the business that is before the county 15 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Lord. 16 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,080 And many of the issues are complex, so we remember the words of King Solomon that he wrote 17 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:33,180 that righteousness, exaltation, but sin, is reproach unto its people and Lord in this case, 18 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:38,200 sin is simply missing the mark of missing the mark, coming up short of doing what's right 19 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,460 in your sight and for the benefit and good of its citizens. 20 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,460 So Lord, we invoke your wisdom. 21 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:58,640 We ask the Lord that you speak your mind, your will, to each of our commissioners, because we know when we hear from you, not only do we do what is right in your sight, we will do what is best for the citizens of this great county, in Jesus name we pray. Amen. 22 00:17:16,910 --> 00:17:17,610 Thank you. 23 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:20,590 Thank you. 24 00:17:20,590 --> 00:17:20,670 Thank you. 25 00:17:20,830 --> 00:17:21,470 Thank you, Pastor Bower. 26 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:22,530 Thank you, Doug. 27 00:17:23,330 --> 00:17:29,670 Ladies and gentlemen, if you're a new to being here, let me go over a couple more rules of stability. 28 00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:35,070 and decorum and that is we are happy you're here we are happy that you took the 29 00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:39,930 times participate today's meeting we want everyone to have an opportunity to 30 00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:45,510 hear and be heard so what we ask is that while you're in this room you don't 31 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:49,250 talk if you have to carry on a conversation you leave the room go out and do it 32 00:17:49,250 --> 00:17:55,530 come back in it distracts those around you and those up here also no no clapping 33 00:17:55,530 --> 00:17:59,590 No cheering, no booing, no outbursts of any kind, okay? 34 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:04,330 It's the only way to be respectful of everybody and whatever everybody has to say. 35 00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:07,590 So all that will be ruled out of order if you do it. 36 00:18:07,710 --> 00:18:12,210 We've been able to have many, many peaceful productive meetings today. 37 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:14,470 I assume we'll be able to do the same. 38 00:18:14,810 --> 00:18:16,650 Just also a little bit of housekeeping. 39 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:20,170 We're going to start with our regular county commission meeting. 40 00:18:20,170 --> 00:18:27,410 We are then to have the library board special meeting that's scheduled at 115, we will do that. 41 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:33,610 Once we conclude the library board meeting, then we will reconvene a regular county commission me. 42 00:18:34,790 --> 00:18:40,810 And so if you wish to speak, again, I don't know if we'll get to open to the public before any of that happens. 43 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:49,710 But I'll try not to interrupt the meeting if we're close to 115, I may go ahead and organize that so we don't have to interrupt open to the public until we get to. 44 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:53,350 So, with that said, can I have a roll call vote please? 45 00:18:54,170 --> 00:18:58,250 This is a regular meeting of the Citrus County Board of County Commissioners, this 26-day 46 00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:03,710 April 2022, and attendance are Chairman Ronald Dick Kichens Jr. First, nice chair with 47 00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:06,730 each say, Bob. Second, vice chair, Holly Davis. 48 00:19:06,890 --> 00:19:11,230 Commissioner Scott Corningham and Jeff Canard, County Administrator Randi Oliver and 49 00:19:11,230 --> 00:19:13,170 County Attorney, didn't you say that I'm a lead? 50 00:19:13,370 --> 00:19:18,610 Thank you very much. Also under approval of the agenda, I have just one item that 51 00:19:18,610 --> 00:19:22,610 until we need to add, we'll call it item B4 under the consent agenda. 52 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:28,170 This is to set a public hearing for May 10th at 140 p.m. 53 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:32,910 to deal with the manatee protection zone, is that the only thing we have to add is 54 00:19:32,910 --> 00:19:33,110 all. 55 00:19:34,350 --> 00:19:38,010 So at this time, we'll be looking for a motion to approve the agenda with that addition. 56 00:19:38,210 --> 00:19:38,530 Assembly. 57 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:39,670 Second. 58 00:19:40,030 --> 00:19:40,430 Okay. 59 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:43,490 So I'll be motion to approve the agenda by Commissioner Karnahan, 60 00:19:43,570 --> 00:19:47,030 a second by Commissioner Kanard, all in favor, say aye. 61 00:19:47,730 --> 00:19:50,430 and you pose say nay, and that passes unanimously. 62 00:19:51,370 --> 00:19:54,650 Next is the consent agenda, which consists of those four items 63 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:56,730 now including item B4, 64 00:19:57,050 --> 00:19:58,690 or do you all like to do with the consent agenda? 65 00:19:59,270 --> 00:20:02,070 Sure, I make a motion to approve the consent agenda, 66 00:20:02,730 --> 00:20:04,250 including B4. 67 00:20:04,590 --> 00:20:04,830 Second. 68 00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:07,010 OK, so we have a motion by Commissioner Sleibock, 69 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:08,550 the second by Commissioner Davis. 70 00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:11,710 Is there any public comment on the consent agenda? 71 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:15,650 Does any board discussion on the consent agenda? 72 00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:18,150 All in favor say aye. 73 00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:20,150 Any opposed say nay. 74 00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:21,710 And that passes unanimously. 75 00:20:22,790 --> 00:20:24,910 We're at to see one proclamations. 76 00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:25,890 We have one today. 77 00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:26,930 What's your. 78 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:27,290 Motion. 79 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:28,310 Approved. 80 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:29,450 Second. 81 00:20:30,350 --> 00:20:30,610 Commissioner. 82 00:20:30,610 --> 00:20:30,830 Okay. 83 00:20:30,850 --> 00:20:30,970 Okay. 84 00:20:31,210 --> 00:20:31,730 Make some motion. 85 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:32,850 Second by commissioner. 86 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:34,130 Davis. 87 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:35,990 All in favor say aye. 88 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:36,510 Aye. 89 00:20:36,510 --> 00:20:37,910 Any opposed say nay. 90 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:39,590 That passes unanimously. 91 00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:42,490 commissioners, if I turn to the presentation of the 92 00:20:42,490 --> 00:20:43,690 parking machine. 93 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:48,380 When you come in here on chairman, I have been 94 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:50,320 a vice, this is a total surprise for this 95 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,660 individual, so I will ask Mr. 96 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,580 Reen Morgan to come for a please. 97 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,300 I think I'm going to do 98 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:24,880 it. 99 00:21:26,820 --> 00:21:27,920 I'll do it. 100 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:29,720 Can I have a seat? 101 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:30,200 Can I have a seat? 102 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,700 Can I have a seat? 103 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,120 Can I have a seat? 104 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:31,860 Can I have a seat? 105 00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:32,520 Can I have a seat? 106 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:34,460 Okay. 107 00:21:35,740 --> 00:21:37,020 The Board of County Commission is a 108 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:38,320 such as kind of further proclamation, 109 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,100 and Bowie Morgan Day, where as for 12 years, 110 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,120 Bowie Morgan had dedicated to the Nature Coast community band 111 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,960 and the Arts in the Cicters County, 112 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,380 Dorian has been the voice of Nature Coast community band 113 00:21:48,380 --> 00:21:50,160 providing narrations for concerts 114 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 and where as Dorian has been a championing a music 115 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 and his power to enrich lives and recognizes 116 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,140 the power of music speaks to all of us. 117 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,280 And where as Dorian is a testimony to Lisa, 118 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:02,880 by example, which serves to inspire others to action. 119 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:05,460 Her jokes and quips remind us that humor 120 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:07,440 and laughter are essential to healthy living 121 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:16,840 And whereas Dorie recognizes that music is a universal language, this gentleman gracious British American lady is beloved by nature coast community band members and its audiences. 122 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:27,060 Now they're affordable to count the commissioners such as County Floor Densirbar proclaim May 20 2022 at Dorie Morgan Day, such as County Floor Densirbar all five county commissioners. 123 00:22:39,930 --> 00:22:49,970 Thank you very much. Thank you so much for having us and my name is Judy Williams and I am president of the Nature Coast community band with me as our director, Mr. Al-Sargo III. 124 00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:55,090 Nature Coast Community Band is a long-standing community band in 125 00:22:55,090 --> 00:22:59,530 citrus. We offer concerts free to the public. We average 126 00:22:59,530 --> 00:23:05,390 1,500 people at our concerts. If you have not attended we 127 00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:08,850 cordially invite you to attend. We have one coming up Motherstay 128 00:23:08,850 --> 00:23:12,250 weekend. We are Saturday where at the citrus community center and 129 00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:17,070 Sunday we are at 7 Rivers Church, both at 3 o'clock. You will not 130 00:23:17,070 --> 00:23:23,490 disappointed and Doreen Morgan is the voice of the citrus county band. She's a delight if you 131 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:33,590 don't know Doreen. She is a British American lady and she is the joke teller for our band. Doreen 132 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:38,870 is extremely charming. You would not be disappointed if you have not met her it would be a real 133 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:45,450 treasure for you. So we are honored that you would do this for Doreen. This is a complete surprise 134 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:52,570 to her, and as we will tell her, she is our cup of tea, and so we are looking forward in 135 00:23:52,570 --> 00:23:59,590 your name to take this for which her, and we will do that, and we are so proud to have 136 00:23:59,590 --> 00:24:04,350 been here to receive this, and I would ask our director Mr. Sartou if he would like to say 137 00:24:04,350 --> 00:24:04,790 anything. 138 00:24:04,790 --> 00:24:07,010 Well, we invite you to come. 139 00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:08,910 We are going to do a few special things. 140 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:11,410 What we're going to do is probably the most favorite of mine 141 00:24:11,410 --> 00:24:13,890 is that we have organized six public songs 142 00:24:13,890 --> 00:24:16,690 that she had when she was interviewing you. 143 00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:18,670 I have to sing along with the album. 144 00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:20,690 So I'm going to join that. 145 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:22,710 This is their total surprise to her 146 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:24,990 and that's why she's not here 147 00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:28,090 for family members or son David 148 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:29,430 and his wife, D. 149 00:24:29,610 --> 00:24:30,970 and her daughter. 150 00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:44,030 And Eric, all playing the group, so we have three generations playing in our group, as well as our announcement, so she is a fantastic way to ignore anything about her. 151 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:49,230 And I thank Council, and everyone for recognizing her, our commission on this community. 152 00:25:13,090 --> 00:25:19,850 Okay, still about five minutes before the special library boards, so we're going to go ahead and move in to open to the public. 153 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:28,310 At this time, I'll ask for those that have other business other than the library issue that we're going to be talking about in five minutes. 154 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:36,170 If you would like to address the board's this time and about five minutes we'll take a break and go to the library board and then come back to that. 155 00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:37,110 Yes, sir. 156 00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:45,410 Remember, three minutes if you're speaking for yourself five minutes if you're speaking on behalf of an organization that has a letter on file to clear. 157 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:51,690 Thank you, Mr. Kitchen. I'd be in Hillier, the president of Witton Pitchy Aquatic Reservation. 158 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:53,670 Is that five? 159 00:25:54,090 --> 00:25:56,610 And you went five? You're looking for five minutes? 160 00:25:57,390 --> 00:25:58,230 I don't think I'll be in the- 161 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:58,490 Okay. 162 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:59,490 Okay. 163 00:26:00,390 --> 00:26:02,030 Then you'll be the only speaker, sir. 164 00:26:03,130 --> 00:26:03,430 Yes. 165 00:26:04,770 --> 00:26:10,310 I had a occasion this morning to address the Southwest Florida Water Management District 166 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:20,270 covered in board. I provided copy of the talking points, granted to that. And note that 167 00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:27,930 we forwarded or provided copy of the full report of our investigation, environmental assessment 168 00:26:27,930 --> 00:26:35,630 if you will, of the lower with the Kitchie River, which is by any major, an absolute mess. 169 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:42,950 The findings of our report are consistent in recommendations, our consistent with other reports 170 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:44,570 that have been done by the Water District, 171 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:49,550 and some of the highlights are in the notes 172 00:26:49,550 --> 00:26:50,410 that I provided. 173 00:26:50,410 --> 00:26:53,950 I don't expect you to act today, but we respectfully request. 174 00:26:54,690 --> 00:27:04,330 You can consider developing a resolution of support and distribute to the appropriate parties 175 00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:13,620 if you will. And I note quite sincerely that this is not going to cost the county a dime, 176 00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:20,060 but it stands to return the great deal of money over the years. Property value is longer 177 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:25,920 removal and crease, recreational activities will increase. I come from a river where I have not 178 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:33,680 seen a fisherman on that river in over 10 years, which says a lot here in Florida. So if you would 179 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,400 of that consideration at some point in time. We would appreciate it. We would try to move this 180 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,240 forward. Do you have any questions? Comments. 181 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,500 Thank you very much. Thank you. 182 00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:50,680 Is anyone else who would like to speak unrelated to the library issue at this time? 183 00:27:58,730 --> 00:27:59,310 Mr. Chairman, 184 00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:03,010 commissioners. Yesterday I attended this year's opening. 185 00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:08,590 Josh Wooten, President of CEO, such as County Chamber Commerce. Yesterday I attended the 186 00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:15,870 of somebody that sat where you sit for 12 years and it was a wonderful event. I saw a few 187 00:28:15,870 --> 00:28:23,770 of you there and that buzz during and after the service was that perhaps it would be appropriate 188 00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:29,890 to consider to consider the name the Metacross government center after Dennis Demada and I'm just putting 189 00:28:29,890 --> 00:28:35,530 that out there as something that we all may want to consider and thank you for your consideration. 190 00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:39,650 Thank you. Is there anyone else? 191 00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:43,210 This is a reference to Beth's farm and the purchase of Beth's farm. 192 00:28:43,630 --> 00:28:45,250 Is there a different or a discount? 193 00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:49,530 No, if you've just talked about that, that is on the agenda, but you're welcome to speak to it now. 194 00:28:49,670 --> 00:28:49,930 If you have. 195 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:52,470 Thank 196 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,020 you. 197 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,560 I live here all my life. I know how this county goes and how it goes. 198 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,900 Can you give us your name please? 199 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:06,400 George Ryder, I'm from Chris de River. 200 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:10,620 And the D.A.M.R.N.S. Holden, no. 201 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:11,820 Pull over the county. 202 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,980 I had probably all over the county. 203 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,280 I was in military. 204 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:15,300 I'm like my member. 205 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,660 I'd be at the W.N. American Legion. 206 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:19,440 I have a... 207 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:19,680 Oh my. 208 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,060 Well my workwork. 209 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,500 Work falls me around. 210 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,180 I'm not the work. 211 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:25,180 I don't have to... 212 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:26,380 You just called me up. 213 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:26,740 Can we? 214 00:29:26,980 --> 00:29:27,220 Come on. 215 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,380 Here's my point here. 216 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:31,260 This farm was mine. 217 00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:35,740 was my playground when I was young. When I seen that 218 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:39,660 tempos you made it, last minute offered on the property. 219 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,780 Right then I called the county commissioners office, 220 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,980 naturally no one answered the phone, 221 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,260 but without doing something, 222 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640 they were out doing something and after a few days 223 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440 by a family got to talk to someone. 224 00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:59,280 He told me to come to this meeting. 225 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:09,000 The story may get proposal. That's when I had a vision came to me and my parents were getting proud of me. 226 00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:20,500 For staying in firm on my intention to do with the property then to see it tore up in single-family dollars. 227 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,180 I got a thing here, printed out on stuff. I'm not an architect, but I did a lot of health. 228 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:35,300 But I wanted to do, besides this, I remember when we were talking about having a big water 229 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,080 park. 230 00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:42,060 Well, I got a sea world, and I got a venture, whatever it is, a lot of people that are interested 231 00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:43,020 in this idea. 232 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:45,580 That's the only one thing. 233 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,000 If I purchased it, it's no problem. 234 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,620 That's my intention to do it. 235 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,120 I would put a church on it, and as far as the county, as far as the animal shelter, I would 236 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,220 eight five acres for an animal shelter. Free. And you guys deal with what you got to do, 237 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,300 build the place, whatever you want to do, that's the size of your gender. And whatever else you 238 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:08,160 want to do, I left a lot of property here, and put a park all the way around, and a doggy park there. 239 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:13,100 And the motel six are something, not real fancy place. There's somebody's got to stay there to go to 240 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:18,600 the water park. That's the only one thing. So as I said, short and sweet, that's just that's good enough, 241 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,640 so if you figure out something, and I got the print out something, whatever thing. 242 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:30,580 So, think about it and we'll get together and it's for cost a lot of money how good it does. 243 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,500 So, well, do you like it? 244 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,820 Let's roll with it. 245 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Thank you very much. 246 00:31:37,820 --> 00:31:38,940 We're going to pause. 247 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,440 We'll take a recess for the regular kind of commission. 248 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:46,020 But first I'll give the commissioners an opportunity to respond to either of those speakers. 249 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,940 The only thing I would say is in regards to the last speaker that is on the agenda today. 250 00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:53,780 I'm sure we haven't more discussion about the commissioners anything. 251 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,320 No, I'll say that I support today. 252 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:59,060 I do a resolution for Dan here when it was future river. 253 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,780 Anybody else have any comments? 254 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:06,240 I would support a definitely in support of Dan Hilliard. 255 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,960 And also I think that naming metocrats after Dennis Demano is a great idea. 256 00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:12,720 Yes. 257 00:32:13,580 --> 00:32:13,860 Okay. 258 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:14,660 Let's try. 259 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,100 Yeah. 260 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,580 I think didn't we already pass a lot? 261 00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:27,600 Resolution or we sent a letter supporting this providing that was it going to alter the lake and river levels 262 00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,660 We sent a I sent a letter 263 00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:37,560 Because there was a time train show I sent a letter and I think I copied you all on a three-mill 264 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:44,780 Supporting it provided that it didn't reduce the lake level because what they want to do is increase the flow 265 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,120 on the whip like Gucci River, and as long as it didn't reduce the flows and either the 266 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:58,160 other water bodies that were due to the white level. I did talk with Margaret Swift 267 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Mud and he cautioned about. 268 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:10,120 Okay, that was my only comment when he got up and started talking. I think I've seen a letter 269 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:20,310 support and there was a highlight portion of it that I can at the caution was that we 270 00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:25,220 did not want to do something that would reduce the lake level. 271 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,420 Okay, that's something to think of. 272 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,350 All right, so we're going to go ahead and recess for short period of time. 273 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:40,390 commission meeting and I will invite the other members of the Library Board 274 00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:45,490 forward and we will begin and we'll call that to order once those members I think. 275 00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:13,640 440. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it's 440. We're going to reconvene the Board of County Commissioners' meeting. 276 00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:24,240 That's your place to take the seats, seats, conversations. We will try to move through our agenda efficiently and as quickly as possible. 277 00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:30,940 The next item that we're moving to is item H1, which was a 2015 PN public area on an 278 00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:36,760 ordinance pertaining to towing. Mr. Oliver, who's going to talk about that? 279 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:40,180 Yes, I don't know whether the ordinance pleads to be read, I will leave it up to Ms. 280 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:40,420 Flynn. 281 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,740 But essentially what this does is make our towing rates consistent with those of the four 282 00:46:46,740 --> 00:46:47,880 to highway patrols. 283 00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:51,400 So if they increase their rates, our rates will increase automatically. 284 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,260 Hopefully we think that's a fairer way to do it, and the state has their Brussels for 285 00:46:56,260 --> 00:46:56,880 several months. 286 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,940 And returning, do we need to read it? 287 00:46:59,140 --> 00:46:59,520 Yes, sir. 288 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,120 Please do. 289 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:03,580 At the conclusion of this public hearing, you're going to be asked to consider an ordinance of 290 00:47:03,580 --> 00:47:08,980 citrus county florida mending section 98-2 article 2 chapter 98 titled maximum fees for 291 00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:12,940 towing, et cetera, providing for several ability provided for inclusion into the code, providing 292 00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:16,360 for modification that may arise from consideration at public hearing and providing for 293 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,400 an effective date. 294 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,240 Thank you. 295 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,640 We're going to open the public hearing. 296 00:47:19,940 --> 00:47:23,600 I'll start with if there's anyone here opposed to this ordinance. 297 00:47:23,820 --> 00:47:25,060 Is anyone here in opposition? 298 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,640 No one is opposition. 299 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,380 Again, I'll ask anyone to speak against this ordinance. 300 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,820 Is anyone here to speak in favor of this ordinance? 301 00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:37,940 Yes, if you're here to speak in favor of please come forward. 302 00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:41,460 Although keep in mind, nobody's spoken opposition to it. 303 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:43,020 So you might want to consider that. 304 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,720 Yes, sir, if you could tell us your name, please. 305 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:50,060 We'll give you Thomas Cali, I'm going in Citrus County, 306 00:47:50,580 --> 00:47:52,440 I've been in the ministry for four years. 307 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,220 This thing that came up for us towing, 308 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,420 our insurance is creased that we're 90% in the last three years. 309 00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:03,820 And you guys, I don't have to tell you about fuel, 310 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,640 water and scum, stuff like that. 311 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,380 It's getting to where we're actually losing money. 312 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,080 And people are, when Carter doesn't bring a lot of scrap, 313 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,840 people dump them and we guess who gets them. The county. County calls us, we remove them, 314 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:26,180 RVs, stuff like that. The demanding calls to everything, just like getting CDs, which is 315 00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:29,380 leaners construction, is increased. 316 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,540 The county gets that money. I take those at the tag office. 317 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:43,360 We ask for either a title or a CD. And it's $225 per title to the county gets. And then $30 318 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:49,740 got dollars for the CD, but the paperwork you got to go through, you get to put ads in the paper, 319 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:58,060 beans, notices. I mean, you're talking just in registered letters, $15. Then I got two 320 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:05,800 people, four hours a week, doing paperwork, so we can get rid of these cars that we're getting. 321 00:49:06,060 --> 00:49:11,380 And then like I said, you get an out of state car, it takes four or five months, another, and 322 00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:15,640 they get $25, $30 more just to do their paperwork and we've got to do that. 323 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,480 So the business is changing and due to the ordinance that we have in the state of Florida, 324 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:29,620 it's just that we really need a stance on mountain anchors and I'm not just saying, because 325 00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:33,440 I want to wave that everybody want to go down the road, but you know how somebody gets an 326 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,220 accident or they get a DUI that aren't unhappy and you know, they're mad at the telecommunications 327 00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:45,140 the cherished coffaces, we're all in collumes and stuff like that, but it's just that we're 328 00:49:45,140 --> 00:49:50,600 being regulated and nobody really knows what our expense to are. 329 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:58,180 Toad trucks have gone to 130,000 dollars now, and we're going to have new interstates coming 330 00:49:58,180 --> 00:49:59,360 through our county. 331 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,640 We're going to have to upgrade our equipment, you know, I got over a million and a half dollars 332 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:13,100 in equipment, you know, and, like I said, it's just, we need an increase in y'all and you go 333 00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:17,240 to the state and they kind of shake their head while you shake their head. Everybody blames 334 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:21,660 everybody else. So now we're at the counter commissioners and y'all can change it and not 335 00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:27,240 surely hope y'all will. Because it really needs to be done. If you need any more information on it, 336 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,940 I'll be more and happy to let it. People work out, show you work. You know, last five years 337 00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:36,200 what my business is, my expensive, the amount of money per cent. 338 00:50:36,420 --> 00:50:39,320 Remember, it's still being regulated by eight-year rates. 339 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,380 I appreciate it. 340 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:41,760 Thank you. 341 00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:42,360 Thank you, sir. 342 00:50:42,620 --> 00:50:45,480 Is anyone here else speaking favor of the ordinance? 343 00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:47,880 Anyone else? 344 00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:48,460 Okay. 345 00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:49,200 Third and final sign. 346 00:50:49,260 --> 00:50:49,500 Okay. 347 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:50,940 We're going to close the public hearing. 348 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:52,260 Yes, sir. 349 00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:56,660 I'm going to mention that we approve the, 350 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,380 or make an amendment to section 98-2 article 351 00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:03,460 to chapter 98 title max of 134 telling. 352 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,220 That's right. 353 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:06,140 And does that include item B? 354 00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:07,300 I'd imagine a child. 355 00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:08,280 I mean, yes. 356 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:08,740 All right. 357 00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:09,180 Hand B. 358 00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:10,200 Each one. 359 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,760 And two. 360 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,120 So a commissioner. 361 00:51:12,420 --> 00:51:13,140 Carham makes motion. 362 00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:14,060 Same by commissioner. 363 00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:14,780 Slaybock. 364 00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:16,500 Any other board discussion? 365 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,740 The lower head public input. 366 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,920 All in favor say aye. 367 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,000 Any opposed say nay. 368 00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:23,100 Passes unanimously. 369 00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:24,860 See how persuasive you are, sir? 370 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:27,760 OK. 371 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,040 We're going to age two, which is the capital improvement. 372 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,440 presentation. 373 00:51:35,010 --> 00:51:39,410 Miles will do it, but we set in here, so I don't see anything else the rest 374 00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:42,010 of this could be moved around, and we might as well do it, and plus the presentation 375 00:51:42,010 --> 00:51:48,150 is so good if everybody's read it, I don't see why it's going to take a long time, so we're 376 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:51,730 going to leave it up to you, presenters, to determine how much detail you want to go in, 377 00:51:52,050 --> 00:51:59,630 or I can say, do you just want to entertain questions on it, or take direction? What 378 00:51:59,630 --> 00:52:03,310 what would you like to do? I don't want to catch off because this was a beautiful piece of 379 00:52:03,310 --> 00:52:07,570 work, so I'm like, you know, it's your pleasure. We'll be glad to go through it if you like, 380 00:52:07,830 --> 00:52:12,790 if you don't think that's necessary, I'm fine with that. Can you get us a quick, quick tour? 381 00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:18,110 Because you don't really need to read to us what we already have read, but the citizens, 382 00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:22,330 this is the first time they're going to see it, so it might be good for them to have the information. 383 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:33,670 First slide I have is the Capital Improvement Program. 384 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:36,010 That much. 385 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,100 Okay, this is a Capital Improvement Program. 386 00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:48,740 Anything over $50,000 has a useful life of 10 years or more. 387 00:52:48,820 --> 00:52:50,380 It's considered capital. 388 00:52:50,580 --> 00:52:51,420 Next slide. 389 00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,040 This identifies the capital needs of the county. 390 00:52:58,220 --> 00:53:00,160 It's over a five year interval. 391 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:15,180 I would be good, I mean we have a list that goes longer than this, but I would be good to have a little bit of longer capital plan, so you know you know what it is. 392 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,160 Next slide. 393 00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:37,230 I mean, each slide is pretty self-explanatory, so that's why the capital 394 00:53:43,050 --> 00:53:50,230 improvement plan is time for the Board to review and adjust five of your plan staff from the Quest of the Board review and make recommendations. 395 00:53:51,590 --> 00:53:57,710 projects, project costs, decimated, or total project costs, including funding from the various 396 00:53:57,710 --> 00:54:05,710 sources, would note the construction prices right now, and that's, so the concept one 397 00:54:05,710 --> 00:54:10,310 I mean, for example, last fall of the year ago was about $100 a ton, and it's roughly $200 398 00:54:10,310 --> 00:54:17,490 a ton today. So these are our best guesses on prices, and as you get out, the numbers get 399 00:54:17,490 --> 00:54:22,350 less certain. Okay, hopefully once construction 400 00:54:22,350 --> 00:54:26,230 abs a little bit that the prices will go back down. 401 00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:31,110 But on our utility prices as well as our road 402 00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:35,530 prices are coming in high right now and we've done some 403 00:54:35,530 --> 00:54:41,150 reading doing it. From the general fund, we are 404 00:54:41,150 --> 00:54:49,930 posing, the following projects and FY203, and we've listed it there, 405 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,240 one of them is to replace 406 00:54:55,240 --> 00:55:00,900 the generator in this particular building, power reliability downtown, sometimes as an 407 00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:04,420 issue, particularly during storms. 408 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,660 If you go to the next page, then we'll just hold me just a second place for that. 409 00:55:09,860 --> 00:55:10,580 Good question. 410 00:55:10,580 --> 00:55:12,120 I got this page real quick, Randy. 411 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,660 Is this one with the upper kennels? 412 00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:19,420 Why would we spend money on the upper kennels or look at the new animal shelter? 413 00:55:20,140 --> 00:55:21,400 I've just felt like there's things. 414 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,460 It's still like things like that. 415 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,040 Let me yourself. 416 00:55:24,260 --> 00:55:24,380 Absolutely. 417 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:31,400 Well, I think what we're trying to do is even if you start the design now, you're probably 418 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,360 two and a half three years out. 419 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:41,940 So we want to just maintain it so that that's okay, but let's minimize the cost and do the minimum that we need to do okay, 420 00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:47,880 let's go to the next slide 421 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,500 Okay, public buildings 422 00:55:56,060 --> 00:55:58,000 We've you on the debt slide 423 00:55:58,740 --> 00:56:06,120 Okay, this is the debt that we have we'll be doing a schedule on debt, but it shows here the maturity 424 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,080 These, the Citrus County Resource Center, the dead drops off November of 24. 425 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,440 The EOC, the dead drops off October of 29. 426 00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:19,780 Metacrest, the drops off 10 to 34. 427 00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:23,700 And the Nature Coast drops off of 10 to 30. 428 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,220 So the total dead services about 2.7 million. 429 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:28,720 Next slide. 430 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,400 Aviation, we're looking at that. 431 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,160 I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, I have a question. 432 00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:35,960 On the public buildings. 433 00:56:37,340 --> 00:56:46,780 It's just an easy question, paid, packet, page 1588, the Nature Coast EMS building. 434 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:56,140 The county plans to use gas tax revenue for debt service payments, and I just would want 435 00:56:56,140 --> 00:57:03,580 to explain, you know, people go on that the gas tax is just for roads and, you know, you 436 00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:06,940 what news it unless you legally could, so. 437 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:10,660 Yeah, I didn't see that. 438 00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:13,740 Oh, that's just where the taxes from nature curves. 439 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,640 Well, on the county plans to use gas tax revenues 440 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,880 for the debt service payments. 441 00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:25,960 That's for like 491, the boat phases and 486. 442 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:29,320 You can't use gas tax for anything other than transportation 443 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,380 or leisure expenses. 444 00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:37,450 It's 1588. 445 00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:53,150 Okay, this is page 36 of the CIP and she's pointing at the top of the page where it says 446 00:57:53,150 --> 00:58:00,950 Nature Coast, EMS, and Detention Facility Bonds and it does say if you see a gas tax, is that a typo or is that a 447 00:58:00,950 --> 00:58:07,990 No, it's incorrect. Can't use it. I didn't see that on the big screen, right? I didn't on the big breakdown, but 448 00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:13,030 I just thought you were going to explain something deep to me. No, I didn't. 449 00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:24,130 Okay, the airport, we have the Empress, construct tea hangers and corporate hangers, 450 00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:30,070 Empress Airport Industrial Park, Christopher of Environmental Assessment. 451 00:58:31,130 --> 00:58:38,050 I think since the, they dealt with the redistricting at the state level, I would expect 452 00:58:38,050 --> 00:58:44,470 much, much, much of some of the budget for the governor, then he has 30 days to approve it and that includes 453 00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:50,230 to run what we have and budgeted yet, because we don't have the money. Once the governor 454 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:56,870 approves the budget, we will do a budget amendment to include the things that are in there, 455 00:58:56,970 --> 00:59:04,110 which will include the crossover airport. We've got the inverse airspace obstruction, clearing, 456 00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:19,810 and the Chris River or Wattland Removal. Randy, real quick. I just want to, you know, we, we, like, a few years back, we, um, 457 00:59:19,810 --> 00:59:34,090 clear the land of the end of the, end of the runway. And we've not kept up with that in this growing, but, you know, I didn't mention it to public works at one time that we needed to stay on top of that, because I don't know why we're going to clear it now. We're going to have to go in there when the machine has been a bunch more money to get it back to work. 458 00:59:34,090 --> 00:59:38,490 was versus keeping up on it. So I think it would be wise to look at it now versus 459 00:59:38,490 --> 00:59:45,570 I think that's it. I mean I'm just getting ground up pretty pretty bad. So right now you 460 00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:51,230 probably going to spray it and be way ahead of the game versus it get higher than that. 461 00:59:52,290 --> 00:59:54,050 You're referring to the East End? 462 00:59:55,090 --> 00:59:56,410 Oh, nice to see you. 463 00:59:56,410 --> 00:59:56,450 It's nothing. 464 00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:57,330 It's nothing. 465 00:59:57,610 --> 00:59:58,230 Yeah, it's nothing. 466 00:59:58,350 --> 00:59:59,130 There will be passengers. 467 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,440 Yeah, down there. We cleared that land and now is getting right back to where it was. 468 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,060 Yeah. Yeah. 469 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,460 I think it would be what's lot to do now. We can look at it. 470 01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:20,140 I would note that we're looking at moving certain things up at the Crystal River Airport, particularly. 471 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:26,260 The fuel farm replacement, the state's agreed to move that up to July 1st, 472 01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:35,580 for this year for the design and then July 1st of next year they said it's going to take 473 01:00:35,580 --> 01:00:40,700 them several months to re-program the funds but they probably can currently do that. 474 01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:49,220 Okay, next slide. Parks and Recs, large can out boat ramp, court reserves and place structure, 475 01:00:49,220 --> 01:00:57,560 replacement, Bluebird Springs Plague structure, Fire Station Plague structure, and her 476 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,520 and end of each boat ramp. 477 01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:06,660 I would note that I sent out a thing today, I think it's May the 9th, I think we're 478 01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:13,180 looking to do in the ribbon cutting for the new sidewalks and the mat at Fort Allen Beach. 479 01:01:16,190 --> 01:01:19,850 Okay, this just gives you an overview of the boards canal boat ramp. 480 01:01:19,850 --> 01:01:23,010 the design is done for the next year. 481 01:01:23,150 --> 01:01:24,630 Yeah, the design is done. 482 01:01:24,670 --> 01:01:25,530 That's great. 483 01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:26,890 We heard your word on that. 484 01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:27,590 What's that? 485 01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:28,970 We heard your word on the Gulf of the Gulf of the Gulf. 486 01:01:28,970 --> 01:01:30,130 I don't know if we've gotten that. 487 01:01:30,130 --> 01:01:32,250 We've gotten final approval, we were exposed, 488 01:01:32,530 --> 01:01:34,050 but I don't know if we've gotten final approval. 489 01:01:34,490 --> 01:01:36,830 If we've gotten final approval, they should. 490 01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:42,160 Well, I know the estimates are in interest, 491 01:01:42,460 --> 01:01:44,540 but we get approval a bit, yeah. 492 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,440 We haven't gotten approval from Caso yet. 493 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,260 Well, I'll make a phone call about it tomorrow. 494 01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:53,480 Yeah, I mean, that whole process has been slow. 495 01:01:53,740 --> 01:01:57,380 That's pretty ridiculous though, that we need to get on top of that. 496 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,300 That's been it for how long now. 497 01:02:01,060 --> 01:02:02,640 We've been working on that for a while. 498 01:02:02,980 --> 01:02:03,300 Two years. 499 01:02:03,860 --> 01:02:05,180 Yeah, that's, that's things like that. 500 01:02:05,380 --> 01:02:09,480 It took us less time to get his design than it does to get it approved. 501 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,340 I always, yeah, the faggier quicker than it. 502 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:13,060 Yeah. 503 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,420 If we go to the next slide. 504 01:02:19,180 --> 01:02:24,860 One for projects in parks, we're looking to change out our lighting to LED because that will 505 01:02:24,860 --> 01:02:30,060 save us a fair amount of money, a four-dollar and beach trailer parking by Centennial 506 01:02:30,060 --> 01:02:38,940 place for actual placement, also a four-place structure replacement, and then we programed the 507 01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:44,940 artificial reef in there, we're also trying to partner with who's that group, we're trying 508 01:02:44,940 --> 01:02:47,040 the part with the Mr. Guard. 509 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,660 Yeah, coastal conservation. 510 01:02:48,660 --> 01:02:50,200 Yeah, coastal conservation is in the case. 511 01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:52,820 They may be able to help us see here some money. 512 01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:57,380 So we're trying to work that through the process too. 513 01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,160 Stormwater. 514 01:02:59,460 --> 01:03:02,900 We've got various projects that we're on here. 515 01:03:03,220 --> 01:03:05,780 They were trying to re-program that. 516 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,940 We took all those leftover in stormwater and are using it for, you know, 517 01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:21,520 To start addressing some of these issues that we have, I mean, it's going to be a long term goal to be able to do that, but that's about $2.5 million. 518 01:03:24,990 --> 01:03:27,530 Then we have some more stormwater projects 519 01:03:29,580 --> 01:03:31,760 in the next one. 520 01:03:35,050 --> 01:03:36,170 Transportation Fund. 521 01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:42,790 We've got the word resurfacing in there. 522 01:03:43,130 --> 01:03:48,790 We've got the various maintenance things, and then the very Scott Projects that are coming 523 01:03:48,790 --> 01:03:54,690 to the top of the list, as well as the Fort Island Trail Dixie Shore's Guard Replacement. 524 01:03:55,570 --> 01:03:59,870 Commissioner Canard is going to work on giving those people to not run into the guardrail, 525 01:04:00,010 --> 01:04:00,030 right? 526 01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:04,050 Not every couple of weeks they run into the guardrail. 527 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:21,680 the transportation funds 2015 transportation bonds. I'm not going to assume, but I'm assuming that 528 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:35,340 this is the 10 million 0.580 in debt. October 2015 is from the 491 from 44 to 529 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,220 I don't know that, but I just didn't want to assume I just want to work. 530 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,600 There's not much description of your friends. 531 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,480 We did some refunding. 532 01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:48,720 That wasn't one of them. 533 01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:52,440 We did some refunding in all this to get our interest rates down. 534 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,360 There's still some debt out there that I wish I could refund, 535 01:04:55,740 --> 01:04:59,980 but it's got to make halt provision, which didn't allow the consumer lending anymore, 536 01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:01,140 which is kind of ironic. 537 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,560 But it's got an interest rate in the 5% area, 538 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:10,310 which we could drastically reduce that, but a make-home provision says you have to pay the 539 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,270 principal and interest if you paid off early and so it doesn't make any sense. 540 01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:29,060 Then we have Dunkle and Field resurface in which I know that's been one we've got a lot of questions on for 24 it's 541 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,310 in the work plan for that 542 01:05:33,210 --> 01:05:38,910 we'd like to do a little bit earlier. West Mustang Drive 25, North Delta, 543 01:05:39,090 --> 01:05:46,950 Bullard 25, East Turner Camp 25, County Road, 491, and Hampshire Bullard 544 01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:54,430 turn lanes, and then a pop car research in 26, and County Road 47, the 545 01:05:58,990 --> 01:06:14,250 So the project duration for on 1653 package on May 11, 2020, the county issued 26.6 in debt. 546 01:06:14,930 --> 01:06:17,610 That's for the new section of 4.91. 547 01:06:18,770 --> 01:06:20,750 That was in what year? 548 01:06:21,250 --> 01:06:26,350 20, 20, may 11, 20, 20, the previous board. 549 01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:31,770 Yeah, log get your breakdown of that. 550 01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:35,130 And part of that breakdown is the, 551 01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:38,270 how much did you get from the state? 552 01:06:38,410 --> 01:06:39,250 That's a part of that. 553 01:06:39,770 --> 01:06:43,090 We got 13.3 million for the new section, 554 01:06:43,390 --> 01:06:44,950 phase two, four and a and one. 555 01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:46,810 That's what we're doing now. 556 01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:48,910 Okay, so then this is phase three? 557 01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:51,570 No, I'll get your breakdown. 558 01:06:51,570 --> 01:06:54,370 And that was new money and refunding. 559 01:06:54,370 --> 01:06:55,430 But I'll get to the break. 560 01:06:55,450 --> 01:07:00,590 It's just that I don't, you know, I mean, most of you all know it by the back of your 561 01:07:00,590 --> 01:07:00,850 hand. 562 01:07:01,010 --> 01:07:01,990 But I don't, the description. 563 01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:03,950 I could just choose a little bit more information. 564 01:07:04,570 --> 01:07:05,270 We can do that. 565 01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:05,730 Thank you. 566 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:08,630 Okay. 567 01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:13,110 We've got the floral city public library debt service to 63,000. 568 01:07:14,170 --> 01:07:16,090 That was internally funded. 569 01:07:16,090 --> 01:07:21,490 And then these are the projects for library, CIP, 570 01:07:22,210 --> 01:07:24,410 renovation of Lake's Regional Library, 571 01:07:25,290 --> 01:07:28,930 24 renovation of coastal region library 25, 572 01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:33,010 and Lake's region roof replacement 24. 573 01:07:34,810 --> 01:07:37,230 Please remember that the Millage of Libraries 574 01:07:37,230 --> 01:07:39,470 captured 0.3333. 575 01:07:39,890 --> 01:07:43,090 So you cannot go above that even though 576 01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:45,730 by parameters you may be able to, 577 01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:52,050 it's cab by the boat of referendum. Okay, the next we talk about solid waste. We've got 578 01:07:52,050 --> 01:07:56,380 a workshop coming up on solid waste. We're going to lay out some alternatives for you. 579 01:07:58,490 --> 01:08:05,450 And we're going to need some directional how you go. We're also going to talk about during that 580 01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:15,000 workshop taking one area that we currently reach from the state and taking the 581 01:08:16,330 --> 01:08:23,170 municipal solid waste that's in there out lining it and put it back because when you get more additional space out of that 582 01:08:23,170 --> 01:08:24,990 So we will do that at that time 583 01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:31,590 You tell me to the biggest, okay, we're obviously spending a lot of money in utilities 584 01:08:33,150 --> 01:08:35,110 And this is what we have 585 01:08:36,210 --> 01:08:38,950 We'll you tell these at this point in time 586 01:08:39,890 --> 01:08:47,970 utilities is also an area that we have a significant amount of debt and also rents out for that. 587 01:08:48,190 --> 01:08:49,310 Randy, real quick. 588 01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:52,950 The money that we got for, what is it? 589 01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:54,430 It's for ARPA. 590 01:08:54,930 --> 01:08:57,650 Yeah, the money that twisted slave all got. 591 01:08:58,050 --> 01:08:59,970 How much is that job going to increase? 592 01:09:01,450 --> 01:09:03,670 We think we're still within the limit right now. 593 01:09:04,210 --> 01:09:05,090 Okay, that's good. 594 01:09:06,150 --> 01:09:08,390 Obviously, we will not don't until it's bad. 595 01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:14,810 Okay. This was the $1 billion project that we're biting off a little at a time, right? 596 01:09:15,850 --> 01:09:16,390 Yeah. That's crazy. 597 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:17,770 I think it was a half of it. 598 01:09:18,030 --> 01:09:20,890 All right, I get thinking it was like a round, a nice round silly. 599 01:09:21,190 --> 01:09:22,790 It may be a bitch now. 600 01:09:23,370 --> 01:09:25,090 If you can go back and do it all the day. 601 01:09:25,390 --> 01:09:26,570 All right. 602 01:09:27,940 --> 01:09:34,140 Okay, then we go into utilities on pocket page 1735 and then more utilities. 603 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:41,180 We've got to do some upgrades to our plants to meet the new BMAP standards. 604 01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,200 I don't know that I get this term right. 605 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:48,480 We've got to go from 10 nanograms or something, a nitrogen to 3. 606 01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:52,740 And that's going to be required of everybody in the BMAP. 607 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,220 So it's going to impact rolling out to 2. 608 01:09:55,420 --> 01:10:01,140 Is there any grants or is there any help from the DEP or a swift life on those? 609 01:10:03,580 --> 01:10:14,260 We're working on that we did in my opinion, and it'll be up to see what Swift Mud does, but Senator 610 01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:19,560 Simpson was very instrumental in helping us work with Swift Mud as a relates to those 611 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,300 types of grants. 612 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:26,820 I don't know what their temperature will be for those grants in the future, but that's why. 613 01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:36,760 I know we've just approved them, I know we got some here anyway, we got a couple here and we do, but it's got to be interested to see after. 614 01:10:37,340 --> 01:10:42,560 And there are combinations of grants, part of a comes from FTP, but they send approved support. 615 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:48,320 So if Mike gives it back to us. So fire is next. 616 01:10:48,940 --> 01:10:51,380 Okay, not too much change there. 617 01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:57,040 The big change is going to be when a new fire station is needed. 618 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:03,940 I know I talked with Craig Stevens and there are two areas of the county and it's going 619 01:11:03,940 --> 01:11:05,960 to be based on demand and call time. 620 01:11:06,620 --> 01:11:08,200 We've been doing very well. 621 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:13,100 The hospitals are trying to step up their game as a relates to turn ambulance around too, 622 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,040 which that's great. 623 01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:18,120 Because we have an ambulance waiting in there parking lot. 624 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,460 we don't get very far, we can't run the call that we need to run. 625 01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:30,140 Total capital improvement program, capital improvement programs roughly $300 million for the 626 01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:37,070 five-year period, and then this just gives you a recap of what the various components in the 627 01:11:37,070 --> 01:11:49,510 areas are, and we're available to incorporate any suggestions that you have with note that the 628 01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:58,110 would follow the option in your budget and make sure you've got any changes that you want. 629 01:11:58,970 --> 01:12:07,730 Will this the proposed CIP in front of this represent the boards direction to date as far 630 01:12:07,730 --> 01:12:14,110 as the budget formation or have you added or deleted things that we have yet to discuss? 631 01:12:14,650 --> 01:12:17,650 I think it's pretty much like what we've been doing. 632 01:12:17,650 --> 01:12:21,230 I didn't see anything here. It was different than what we talked about in the past. 633 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,300 Okay. 634 01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:26,900 Mr. Chairman, I have a couple of questions. 635 01:12:27,180 --> 01:12:29,940 I kind of want a little fast for me. It's certain areas. 636 01:12:31,980 --> 01:12:36,960 If you could just explain to me with the landfill, 637 01:12:41,180 --> 01:12:46,020 page 1665 or 113. How about that? Is that help? 638 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:48,840 113? 639 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:55,570 Yeah, 113 page 113 our packet page 1665. I don't know what you're looking at. 640 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,160 For the land. 641 01:13:01,150 --> 01:13:04,500 It's mine doesn't look cool. I'm looking at the book my agenda book. 642 01:13:05,690 --> 01:13:12,570 Okay, so let me just ask you question probably no. So for fiscal year 2223 the landfill fees are 643 01:13:12,570 --> 01:13:24,330 point 1 million then in 2324 the landfill fees jumped to 17.4 million and then it goes back 644 01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:37,550 down in 2425 to 6.1 and I tried to I just didn't I didn't understand the process of where 645 01:13:37,550 --> 01:13:39,750 jump is coming from? 646 01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:49,810 Yeah, it's just a six, she's on page 113 by the way of the CIP and I guess the other question 647 01:13:49,810 --> 01:13:54,710 be is it appears that the big jump is in the second year 16 million in construction. 648 01:13:56,730 --> 01:13:58,730 How is that going to be generated through fees? 649 01:13:58,790 --> 01:14:00,710 Would that not come under some other level? 650 01:14:00,710 --> 01:14:20,770 Yes, we've got an account that we set aside out of every tonne that's dropped to build capacity, and you've also got to do what's called a closure fund under the state rule. 651 01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:26,670 So the theory is that once you go to close the land, you've already got the money there. 652 01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:32,350 So it's kind of what I call a perpetual maintenance fine. I think you have to maintain it for 40 or 60 years 653 01:14:32,350 --> 01:14:36,450 It's something like that. I don't want to call. I thought I had enough stuff for just for so 654 01:14:36,450 --> 01:14:38,550 If this is what the question you're asking 655 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:44,850 We've been it'll come from the fees that we've been setting aside and we're in a transfer of this ball difference 656 01:14:44,850 --> 01:14:50,450 It will be great. That's right. That's right. Okay. Thank you. Now I would note that we're gonna be bringing some fees 657 01:14:51,290 --> 01:14:59,830 to you to be changed affected July 1st on CND because right now our CND rates are equal to the construction. 658 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:29,740 We're going to do the same right, and so people are bringing it to us. And that's a bad plan because we have a line line fill. So we're going to adjust that. We're also going to adjust tires. We're not going to adjust our other rates until October 4, which won't we normally do it. But we felt it was imperative that we adjust those to, it won't impact that many users. It's just going to defer. 659 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,000 We're the seeing these stuff goes another question just one one other 660 01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:44,960 The carpet replacement page 24 661 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,400 This was 662 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,480 190 for 2023 663 01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:55,620 190,000 for 2324 page 24 of 664 01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:59,880 I don't know if you the packet page is 1570 665 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,100 Yes, so this 24 of the CIP. 666 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,360 On the PDF, it's easier to just type the number, the page, and the top, and it automatically 667 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,060 goes there. 668 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,060 That's a hard copy. 669 01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:27,130 So, my question is, 380,000 for carbonating, correct for, and this 670 01:16:29,660 --> 01:16:31,160 is when, I don't even 671 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:37,180 know when we decided this part, or this is bringing, coming before us, but then in twenty 672 01:16:37,180 --> 01:16:43,720 three, twenty-four, there's a hundred thousand dollars allotted for the animal service, no 673 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:52,140 no, but there was a ventilation, there was a ventilation system and I just was wondering if we 674 01:16:52,140 --> 01:16:53,260 could look at it. 675 01:16:53,260 --> 01:16:56,520 because when you I'm following those pages I'm thinking of something 676 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:57,900 okay um... 677 01:16:57,900 --> 01:16:59,340 carpeting questions on what page? 678 01:16:59,740 --> 01:17:00,400 1517. 679 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:01,440 1516. 680 01:17:02,660 --> 01:17:08,380 And then the ventilation is 1574. 681 01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:14,740 You know I think ventilation I mean I don't know how 682 01:17:14,740 --> 01:17:18,840 how this the process is because I can't remember last year's process 683 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,540 but um... 684 01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:27,580 can we discuss maybe ventilation seems a little more important than carpeting? 685 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:35,020 Well, the carpeting can present a trip as if you've got a liability issue there, too. 686 01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:41,550 That's the only thing, and it's a reasonable, I don't recall one, like can't there, 687 01:17:41,650 --> 01:17:45,550 government building was built, but it's the original carpet from the original construction. 688 01:17:48,090 --> 01:17:51,950 Well, I mean, they're both equally important, 689 01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:03,110 but what's the process? 690 01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:03,730 Can somebody? 691 01:18:04,350 --> 01:18:11,450 Well, remember that any of these CIPVs are planned expenditures and the actual award or 692 01:18:11,450 --> 01:18:13,630 the contract will come before you. 693 01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:19,530 So you're going to have another crack at it, but what I want to try to do is to make sure 694 01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:25,270 that there's a like-minded, we're going on the same direction, but we've had at least one 695 01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:29,490 trip and fall instead of on that carpet, so we need to be careful. 696 01:18:29,490 --> 01:18:31,190 I don't know if what words in your mouth, commission, 697 01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:34,890 but what are you asking that perhaps the, 698 01:18:34,890 --> 01:18:36,930 the kennel ventilation be moved up 699 01:18:36,930 --> 01:18:38,150 in the carpet pushed back? 700 01:18:38,190 --> 01:18:39,190 Is that what you're proposing? 701 01:18:39,710 --> 01:18:40,330 I mean. 702 01:18:40,830 --> 01:18:42,650 I just wanted to talk about it. 703 01:18:42,710 --> 01:18:44,910 I didn't, you know, the staff didn't know. 704 01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:46,450 You got to have a direction you want to go with. 705 01:18:46,730 --> 01:18:49,370 I would, I would, I just, you know, 706 01:18:49,410 --> 01:18:51,430 I'm saying ventilation is pretty important, 707 01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:53,550 but you're saying trippin' falls are important. 708 01:18:53,870 --> 01:18:55,870 So that's why I was just trying to process 709 01:18:55,870 --> 01:18:56,890 what you were saying. 710 01:18:57,790 --> 01:19:05,790 I would like to see maybe the ventilation be 22, 23, and then the carpet be 23, 24, 24, 24, 25. 711 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,140 Well, that's, that's, that's your opinion. 712 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:18,560 I just have a problem with that where we put the safety and welfare of people behind putting ventilation in the animal shelter that you're going to build a new one. 713 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,840 So I mean, I just, I personally have a problem with that. 714 01:19:22,820 --> 01:19:24,980 I mean, it's in there to be done next year. 715 01:19:24,980 --> 01:19:25,500 But, 716 01:19:27,650 --> 01:19:29,010 Mr. Chair, yes, sir. 717 01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:37,070 I would suggest that we, I mean, I appreciate the input and the discussion, but I would 718 01:19:37,070 --> 01:19:43,810 suggest that we defer to, you know, grant maintenance and the people who are bringing these 719 01:19:43,810 --> 01:19:50,750 projects forward, and I would assume prioritizing them in a manner that they feel is best for 720 01:19:50,750 --> 01:19:51,930 that particular building. 721 01:19:56,710 --> 01:20:05,530 I'm sure going into that is, yes, ventilation, ventilation is obviously important, but if 722 01:20:05,530 --> 01:20:11,330 we've got original carpeting in there and now we've got some incidents of people falling 723 01:20:11,330 --> 01:20:18,270 down or tripping over it, that's where your staff is coming to you and saying this needs 724 01:20:18,270 --> 01:20:24,270 be priority and then we second-guess them on it because we want this priority. 725 01:20:24,670 --> 01:20:25,230 Exactly. 726 01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:26,890 And that's why I was quiet. 727 01:20:27,330 --> 01:20:29,130 I wasn't meaning to second-guess. 728 01:20:29,310 --> 01:20:32,490 I just wanted to put it in a different light. 729 01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:36,110 Has this been prioritized or is this? 730 01:20:36,830 --> 01:20:39,310 We can take a look at that specific item. 731 01:20:39,570 --> 01:20:46,210 I can talk with Mr. Hall as the facility manager as it relates to that. 732 01:20:46,210 --> 01:20:52,990 had a specific conversation with him on the part. I know what the carpet situation is. I don't know 733 01:20:52,990 --> 01:20:54,490 as well, I don't know what it should be. 734 01:20:54,530 --> 01:20:57,570 Well, Commissioner Carr, busy enough, he's trying to cut out his client's help. 735 01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:58,450 What's that? 736 01:20:58,450 --> 01:20:59,810 You don't need to be following the camera. 737 01:20:59,810 --> 01:21:00,550 Yes, right. 738 01:21:01,970 --> 01:21:04,470 Maybe leave the carpet and put some cards out there. 739 01:21:04,930 --> 01:21:06,110 Thank you. That's all I have. 740 01:21:06,370 --> 01:21:07,030 Okay, thank you. 741 01:21:07,310 --> 01:21:08,050 Okay, that's kidding. 742 01:21:08,730 --> 01:21:10,670 Please, that's just a joke. Please continue. 743 01:21:16,170 --> 01:21:18,970 There's something else that you all would like us to look at. 744 01:21:19,070 --> 01:21:19,950 We'll look at that one. 745 01:21:20,230 --> 01:21:28,310 We'll also look at the May 11, 2020 bonds and give you a break on those bonds. 746 01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:34,450 I would just say that I concur with Commissioner Kanard. 747 01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:36,510 Particularly after having this discussion, 748 01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:39,250 I'd hate to see a settlement agreement come before us. 749 01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:41,570 Some day in the future, we'll trip and fall out there. 750 01:21:42,090 --> 01:21:43,070 We chose. 751 01:21:43,450 --> 01:21:44,430 What's it today? 752 01:21:44,690 --> 01:21:45,450 What's that? 753 01:21:46,350 --> 01:21:53,690 Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, four warned, right? I mean, so it has happened. It's in front of us today. 754 01:21:54,670 --> 01:22:00,330 So, I just think that's the highest priority between those two items. That's my feeling, so. 755 01:22:00,830 --> 01:22:05,590 Okay, is there anything else anybody would like additional information on or what it's just a change? 756 01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:13,930 It's usual, there's stuff in here that I don't agree with, but we've already been down that path, and that's how we got to where we are. 757 01:22:13,930 --> 01:22:19,810 So this, I think this is an excellent five-year plane that's in front of us, knowing that it gets adjusted every year. 758 01:22:22,690 --> 01:22:28,990 As you said, it should be a 10-year plan, but it's hard enough to hold to a five-year plan and keep that straight. 759 01:22:30,150 --> 01:22:34,750 So this was just for information or do you want other than... 760 01:22:34,750 --> 01:22:42,230 At this point, it's for information and input, it will actually be finalized in September as part of the totality of the budget process. 761 01:22:42,230 --> 01:22:48,130 So this is a chance board anything to see IP you want to change before we get to September with it 762 01:22:49,890 --> 01:22:56,310 Looks good Randy. Oh, okay. All right, Mr. Chair. Are we ready with that motion to prove that I mean 763 01:22:58,130 --> 01:22:58,570 So 764 01:22:59,710 --> 01:23:02,650 Anything else you need from us on the on the CIP 765 01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:07,870 Okay, before we okay, so we're gonna go back to item me and you know what I'm gonna say 766 01:23:07,870 --> 01:23:09,710 I want to pull item E 767 01:23:09,710 --> 01:23:17,870 from Bids to discuss separately, so Mr. Chair. So this would be A through H minus E. 768 01:23:17,870 --> 01:23:19,770 And Chair, I'd like to pull F. 769 01:23:20,490 --> 01:23:27,530 So I'll make a motion that we accept A, B, C, D. We pull E at F or separate in G and H. 770 01:23:28,410 --> 01:23:32,670 Okay, so Commissioner Crony Hand makes that motion. Second by Commissioner Canard. 771 01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:34,290 So any public comment? 772 01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:37,470 Okay, Commissioner's A&A else. 773 01:23:37,710 --> 01:23:38,810 All in favor say aye. 774 01:23:39,190 --> 01:23:39,270 Aye. 775 01:23:39,790 --> 01:23:42,050 I post a nay that passes unanimously. 776 01:23:42,730 --> 01:23:45,730 And I am E. I just, I know, boards will. 777 01:23:45,850 --> 01:23:46,910 I'm gonna vote against it. 778 01:23:46,910 --> 01:23:48,090 I just wanted to separate. 779 01:23:48,490 --> 01:23:51,290 So I could vote against it and not the entire consent agenda. 780 01:23:51,610 --> 01:23:53,290 So what's the board's will with it and me? 781 01:23:56,220 --> 01:24:00,040 I'd like to make a motion that we use the unrestricted donations 782 01:24:00,580 --> 01:24:05,380 to the animal shelter for E1E. 783 01:24:07,940 --> 01:24:11,400 So, that's to authorize the Chairman's case agreement. 784 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:22,380 To, yes, staff to approval toward Tokyo, Engineering, and you see the unrestricted donations to the animal shelter. 785 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:23,680 That's A-B-N-Z. 786 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:24,140 Okay. 787 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,400 So, Commissioner Slaybao makes that motion. 788 01:24:28,060 --> 01:24:30,220 There's a second-by-commissioner Davis. 789 01:24:31,620 --> 01:24:36,920 I'm just going to reiterate, I've heard so many people in the community thinking this is 790 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,000 totally outrageous to spend a million dollars on a design for this, but I've even had 791 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,620 people I haven't heard from for years, come here and say, have other people built shelters 792 01:24:44,620 --> 01:24:45,200 in Florida? 793 01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:49,920 Do we have to go out and reinvent the wheel for a million dollars, but I'm not going to 794 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:54,560 be into death, I'm just, I'm not in the favor, so we have a motion in the second, any public 795 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:55,500 on this. 796 01:24:58,660 --> 01:25:03,680 Yes sir. So any public comment? Okay so with that said 797 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,520 commission is any other discussion? You know I've had a lot of people 798 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:13,840 call me and they they are for this it's just not for a blueprint it is from 799 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:18,600 soup to nuts for this shelter there's a lot involved in it it is quite 800 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:24,760 extensive and that's why there's this fee attached to it. Okay any other 801 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:29,420 question. I want for you to say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay? Aye. 802 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:34,560 Read that three, two. Is that what you got it? Okay, so that passes three to two. 803 01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:37,820 Okay, item F, commission or sleigh while you wanted that pulled. 804 01:25:38,660 --> 01:25:43,760 Yes, I will need to be recusing myself from voting on E1F. 805 01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:50,300 I am an embutting property owner and it will enter to my personal benefit or detriment. 806 01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:59,220 And I have been advised by staff that there might not be a conflict but I don't feel comfortable with that and I would rather air on the side of caution and transparency. 807 01:26:00,860 --> 01:26:05,300 So you don't need my vote to pass this so I would like to. 808 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,640 I'm staying from the vote. 809 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:08,400 I'm staying from the vote. 810 01:26:08,460 --> 01:26:12,340 Madam attorney, do you concur with that? 811 01:26:13,700 --> 01:26:18,140 I commissioned a slave I said that I advised her I didn't believe there was a conflict, but she 812 01:26:18,140 --> 01:26:24,240 wants to err on the side of caution and not vote and then just make sure that she completes 813 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,260 the correct forms. 814 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:30,160 So that's my point that I just want to make sure that since the state requires this to vote, 815 01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:34,120 you're comfortable with her refusing herself from this that that is not a problem. 816 01:26:34,820 --> 01:26:39,340 I advised her I did not believe it was a conflict but she has decided that she's going to 817 01:26:39,340 --> 01:26:40,280 abstain from voting. 818 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,220 Good, very good talk since her choice. 819 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:43,100 All right. 820 01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:43,360 Okay. 821 01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:44,920 Is absolutely the Commissioners' choice. 822 01:26:44,980 --> 01:26:45,420 Absolutely. 823 01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:49,320 We have a pretty little EF. 824 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:50,700 Okay. EF. 825 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:51,300 Okay. 826 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,760 Mr. Kai makes a motion. 827 01:26:53,980 --> 01:26:55,400 Second by Commissioner Kanard. 828 01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:56,860 Is there any public comment? 829 01:26:58,500 --> 01:26:59,900 Any further commissioner discussion? 830 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,600 And this is only going to be four people voting on this. 831 01:27:02,660 --> 01:27:03,760 All in favor say aye. 832 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:04,560 Aye. 833 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:05,760 Any opposed say nay? 834 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,660 That passes four zero. 835 01:27:07,940 --> 01:27:08,460 Mr. Chair. 836 01:27:08,540 --> 01:27:08,780 Yes. 837 01:27:08,780 --> 01:27:14,500 I'm sorry to interrupt, but earlier I believe when you were talking about pulling the animal 838 01:27:14,500 --> 01:27:19,100 shelter item and then Commissioner Slaybop pulled this one, that you called it the 839 01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:21,180 consent agenda, but I know you didn't mean that. 840 01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:26,180 No, I mean, Bids, that's exactly because we usually take all the Bids, I'm sorry, if I say 841 01:27:26,180 --> 01:27:29,240 consent agenda, the Bids we usually take together as well. 842 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:29,860 Thank you, sir. 843 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:30,940 Thank you. 844 01:27:31,660 --> 01:27:35,560 I'm sure one bit of last mistake I make today before the end of the day, so I'll just keep 845 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:36,280 you on my toes. 846 01:27:36,740 --> 01:27:37,500 Hopefully I'll be listening. 847 01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:40,580 Okay, so I believe that concludes Beds. 848 01:27:40,580 --> 01:27:42,640 We are here for E2, please Mr. Oliver? 849 01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:47,160 Yes, a budget transfer for Library Services, Stormwater, 850 01:27:47,420 --> 01:27:50,940 and Board of County Commission for Fiscal Year 21.22. 851 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,000 Motion approved by me to second. 852 01:27:55,160 --> 01:28:00,280 So we've motioned by Commissioner Canard and second by Commissioner Davis. 853 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,420 Is any public comment on this? 854 01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:06,740 Commissioner, is any further discussion? 855 01:28:07,660 --> 01:28:09,640 Okay, home-favorite say aye. 856 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,000 Aye. 857 01:28:10,660 --> 01:28:11,920 Any opposed say nay? 858 01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:13,880 That passage unanimously. 859 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:14,920 E3. 860 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,580 Adopt an authorized chairman of execute resolution adopting library services. 861 01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:22,540 American Rescue Plan Act. 862 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,720 Of course, we're ever airport rescue program. 863 01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:33,700 And Department of Homeland Security has it as materials grant budgets for physical year 2021-22. 864 01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:35,960 Motion to approve B3. 865 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:36,380 Second. 866 01:28:36,380 --> 01:28:40,720 Commissioner Deis makes motion second by Commissioner Canard any public comment 867 01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:48,200 Any board discussion on favor say hi any post a nay that passes five who 868 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:55,340 He forward please yes review and approve the revisions to administrative regulation 13.001 through five 869 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,180 Abandonment and vacation of public lands 870 01:28:59,180 --> 01:29:01,040 Plots of record 871 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:08,180 streets, alleys, and other public rights away. This will speed up the process a little bit 872 01:29:08,180 --> 01:29:10,260 and not make it so we have to move on. 873 01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:11,920 May I show you a preview? 874 01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:12,780 Second. 875 01:29:13,580 --> 01:29:17,000 Okay, Commissioner Davis makes that motion a second back commissioner. 876 01:29:17,340 --> 01:29:18,360 Can I? 877 01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:20,460 Is there any public comment? 878 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:22,400 Board discussion? 879 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:24,400 On favor say aye. 880 01:29:24,820 --> 01:29:24,900 Aye. 881 01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:25,200 Aye. 882 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:26,600 Any opposed say nay? 883 01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,980 It passes unanimously, E5, please. 884 01:29:29,180 --> 01:29:40,960 I'll provide the Chairman to sign amendment 1 for grant agreement, HL141, between the Florida Department of Economic Development and SIT for Scanning Florida. 885 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,820 Do you approve item E5? 886 01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:44,180 Second. 887 01:29:44,620 --> 01:29:47,360 Okay, Mr. Sleeble, makes the motion and second-by-commissioner. 888 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,440 Can I write, is there public comment? 889 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,660 Board discussion, call me, favor say aye. 890 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:59,740 any person in any that passes for so far we'll get it. 891 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,140 Commissioner Davis when she returns item e6 please. Authorized Chairman, except continuation, certificate for bond, safeguard insurance company, security bond, number 501, zero, zero, zero, three, zero. Extending the period to make 11th, 2023, and to be made part of waste management, ink, a Florida's waste disposal account agreement dated June 8th, 2020. 892 01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:30,140 Motion approved by the MI6. 893 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:31,720 Second. 894 01:30:31,980 --> 01:30:32,320 Okay. 895 01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:33,480 Commissioner Car makes motion. 896 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,060 So I'm going to commission a slave bought. 897 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:36,580 I say public comment. 898 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:38,800 And for the board discussion. 899 01:30:39,420 --> 01:30:40,560 I'm on favor say aye. 900 01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:40,880 Aye. 901 01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,480 Any opposed say nay. 902 01:30:42,860 --> 01:30:43,980 And we'll record commission. 903 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,360 Davis mentioned returns. 904 01:30:46,060 --> 01:30:46,380 Okay. 905 01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:47,480 E7 please. 906 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:47,900 Yes. 907 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,060 E7 is we're asking the properties listed below. 908 01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:56,980 Be declared surplus and authorized staff to earmark the proceeds for affordable housing. 909 01:30:57,540 --> 01:31:02,640 and less than these said properties will purchase with designated or restricted funds. 910 01:31:03,140 --> 01:31:04,940 Motion approved by the me seven A&B. 911 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,880 Okay, Commissioner, could not have mixed the motion in a second by Commissioner Carminghand. 912 01:31:10,060 --> 01:31:11,340 Is there any public comment? 913 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,800 Okay, Commissioner, is any further discussion? 914 01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:17,940 Commissioner Davis run item E seven. 915 01:31:18,980 --> 01:31:20,280 Okay, all in favor say aye. 916 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,060 Any opposed say nay? 917 01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,340 That passes unanimously. 918 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,060 Commissioner Davis a vote on item E five. 919 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,140 And on E6, I see record all those. Thank you, man. 920 01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,240 Let's move on to E8, please. 921 01:31:33,580 --> 01:31:34,920 Yes, E8. 922 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:40,300 The staffing at the jail will mean essentially the same between the last two months. 923 01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:44,340 We did not feel that was the progress we would like to see. 924 01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,620 So we're recommending an assessment of 77,500 dollars. 925 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:55,220 I would note that court civic is advised me this week that they've added six additional staff members, 926 01:31:55,220 --> 01:32:01,680 which is a 5% increase, however, we've not been able and to only verify that because we use payroll workers. 927 01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:07,680 So, consequently, this is your multi-update that you requested, and we would ask for approval. 928 01:32:08,220 --> 01:32:10,680 Motion approved by the DEA. 929 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,140 To approve the non-performance assessment. 930 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,660 Yes, just want to make sure to clear in that. 931 01:32:14,740 --> 01:32:19,260 Okay, so Commissioner Conrad makes that motion and Commissioner Davis seconded it. 932 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:20,540 Say public comment. 933 01:32:21,860 --> 01:32:22,480 Board discussion. 934 01:32:23,220 --> 01:32:24,940 Com favour say aye. 935 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:25,260 Aye. 936 01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:26,680 Any opposed say nay? 937 01:32:26,740 --> 01:32:28,000 That passes unanimously. 938 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:29,040 He nodded. 939 01:32:29,180 --> 01:32:29,480 Yes. 940 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:36,240 E9 is the schedule that was previously laid out for reviewing the library policies and reviewed. 941 01:32:36,620 --> 01:32:39,700 This is going to be the library advisory board. 942 01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:46,560 We'll make a recommendation to you after they reviewed the library directors proposal for the how the policies. 943 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:51,840 He thinks they should work they'll make any suggestions that they want to make. 944 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:58,660 And then it will come to you for modification and changes as you may deem appropriate. 945 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,560 Okay, board, what are you going to do? 946 01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:02,760 That's just informational. 947 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:03,820 That's what I'm saying. 948 01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,120 People okay with that? 949 01:33:07,180 --> 01:33:10,900 I'm okay with that as long as everybody understands this is the schedule. 950 01:33:11,660 --> 01:33:15,720 And I just want to make sure it doesn't come back and we get into a protracted discussion about 951 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:16,420 Should we do this? 952 01:33:16,500 --> 01:33:16,960 Should we do this? 953 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:17,820 We're all in board. 954 01:33:17,820 --> 01:33:26,960 But this is coming back and this is coming from the board of county commission not the library. So just so everybody's on the same page with that. Okay, great. E10 please. 955 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:34,220 E10 approved and authorized chairman to execute the settlement agreement release for Dallas, 956 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:45,680 Jewette and Robert Jewette versus Cephas County case number of 2018 C.A. Zuma Zuma Zuma Zuma Zuma Zuma Zuma Zuma 2-2-2. 957 01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,480 This is not the carpet. 958 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,160 No, no, no. 959 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,880 Okay, so commission can I make the motion. I'll say I may have a journey. 960 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,160 I'm sorry, I'll wait to see if you get a second. I apologize. 961 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,860 Okay, so I have a second from commissioner. I'll kind of hand guess me. 962 01:34:02,860 --> 01:34:14,140 This is the property that you had a shade meeting with with your lawyer, Mr. Scott, and the changes that you suggested were presented, and this was the 963 01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:16,240 their agreement coming back. 964 01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:17,740 Okay. 965 01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:21,320 So at the motion of the second is a public comment. 966 01:34:22,060 --> 01:34:23,320 They probably don't know what we're talking about. 967 01:34:23,500 --> 01:34:24,440 This is a shade meeting. 968 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,600 This is the property down across from the blue gator. 969 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:34,840 commission is any further discussion on paper say aye aye aye aye aye aye. 970 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,160 I opposed say nay. 971 01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,700 That passes unanimously. 972 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:38,940 E 11. 973 01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,820 Approving all the threats of general lease and a whole harmless agreement year and after 974 01:34:43,820 --> 01:34:49,060 referred to as cell agreement between citrus county Florida and Karen Strauss. 975 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:56,780 This full and volatile settlement includes turnip fees and costs for claim number 79, 0 120 in the amount of 35,000. 976 01:34:57,700 --> 01:34:58,260 Okay. 977 01:34:58,260 --> 01:35:02,860 commissioners. Most approved by me alone. Second. Okay, 978 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,100 Commissioner, can I make some motions? Seconded by Commissioner 979 01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:10,600 Carmahan. Is there a public comment? Anything else from the board? Home 980 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:16,380 favor say aye. Any opposed say nay? I pass this unanimously. I had to be 12. 981 01:35:16,580 --> 01:35:20,140 Yes, each 12. As you were aware, the legislators like to discuss the 982 01:35:20,140 --> 01:35:25,820 session last year. Our last week, I should say to you last year. 983 01:35:25,820 --> 01:35:35,380 Don't we wish to get the legislature in the governor or now on the same pages or relates to redistricting? 984 01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:41,580 Please report that Cifters County is all in one district now, which I think is best. 985 01:35:42,020 --> 01:35:45,480 The two options had us in either two districts or one. 986 01:35:46,340 --> 01:35:55,060 I sent out the actual precincts and how they were going to work against the census blocks to you, which was a lot of detail. 987 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,660 Movered and her staff will work diligently to get this done. 988 01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:06,060 We're asking that you all approve this. 989 01:36:06,940 --> 01:36:12,340 I would note that if you don't approve it the only way to take it to task is to go to court. 990 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,080 This chair will approve each one. 991 01:36:14,260 --> 01:36:14,980 Yeah, second. 992 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:15,760 Yeah. 993 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,200 The kind of hand makes the motion. 994 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,260 Second by Commissioner Canard is any public comment. 995 01:36:21,620 --> 01:36:23,040 Any discussion from the board? 996 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:30,840 home favor say aye aye aye any opposed say nay and that is unanimous E13 this should be interesting yeah E13 997 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:39,280 is your where we got a last minute offer for the best farm property of $6 million dollars I 998 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:47,180 would note that it has the 90 days due diligence period in it so they can do their due diligence 999 01:36:47,180 --> 01:36:51,920 and during that period they can decide there's something that they don't think is right 1000 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:59,580 like not to proceed or negotiate at that particular point. The other two offers were 5.5 million 1001 01:36:59,580 --> 01:37:07,780 each. They had somewhat similar terms as it relates to that. We are recommending that you accept a 1002 01:37:07,780 --> 01:37:14,480 six million dollar offer with a 90-day due diligence period with Charlie Michaels LLC. They are a 1003 01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:20,540 the development construction company out of service or commissioners. 1004 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:27,480 Yes, I'm prepared to either make the motion or support motion to accept this offer. 1005 01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:42,660 But I do have a question about, do we know what got our attention to second group to the party interested was we know the quality of work that they do. 1006 01:37:42,660 --> 01:37:49,500 Do we know anything about the quality of development that this particular individual does? 1007 01:37:52,830 --> 01:38:02,730 There are certain minimum standards that are provided for obviously the one party is the local party and we have a pretty good handle on the quality of the work that they do. 1008 01:38:03,110 --> 01:38:05,230 I don't have it's great of understanding of this. 1009 01:38:12,370 --> 01:38:18,150 It's an additional 500,000 to the county, as long as they make it through their due diligence. 1010 01:38:20,150 --> 01:38:24,190 I'd like to have a little bit more information, but I'm prepared to support you. 1011 01:38:24,290 --> 01:38:25,630 As it stands, too. 1012 01:38:25,890 --> 01:38:30,710 As of right now, they can do whatever the legal zoning on the property allows them to do. 1013 01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:32,750 And could paint them with your eye. 1014 01:38:33,650 --> 01:38:33,910 Okay. 1015 01:38:34,110 --> 01:38:37,490 I just had a question. 1016 01:38:37,490 --> 01:38:42,110 And so, when the markets really hot, at least in residential, which is where I've had experience 1017 01:38:42,110 --> 01:38:47,590 being a buyer, is there not something for a government where you have multiple interested 1018 01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:53,310 parties and you go back and say, okay, we've got multiple good valid offers or they bring 1019 01:38:53,310 --> 01:38:57,970 your best, you know, from a previous year he's done, you know, responsibly. 1020 01:38:58,030 --> 01:38:59,910 Well, well, that seems ideal. 1021 01:39:00,030 --> 01:39:06,490 My concern is that I think this market is kind of, shake you right now. 1022 01:39:06,490 --> 01:39:12,350 and I would like to see this go forward but that's the direction of board we can do that to 1023 01:39:12,350 --> 01:39:18,910 I've seen that done, but let's just, let me, let me, I want to hear what Mr. Albert had to say, so, 1024 01:39:20,370 --> 01:39:25,630 I was seeing that done, I don't necessarily recommend you to lighten the fragile nature of the market. 1025 01:39:25,970 --> 01:39:26,890 Okay, Commissioner Karnan. 1026 01:39:27,130 --> 01:39:28,530 Yeah, you make Commissioner Karnan before. 1027 01:39:28,750 --> 01:39:29,650 Okay, Commissioner, please. 1028 01:39:30,450 --> 01:39:35,610 Um, there's one thing that caught my eye, Randy, and if you could enlighten me on 1029 01:39:35,610 --> 01:39:39,770 this offer, this six million dollar offer from the CERSA to company. 1030 01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:49,010 I do know that our local real estate agent Remax has worked on all three of these and it 1031 01:39:49,010 --> 01:39:54,570 looks like that they've crossed out Remax and put in their name. 1032 01:39:55,530 --> 01:40:02,130 Now was that agreed upon at the beginning because I'm sure our staff and the Remax has done 1033 01:40:02,130 --> 01:40:08,130 incredibly amount of work and here's the thing on this. That's an issue between the two 1034 01:40:08,130 --> 01:40:16,850 brokers. I can't answer what actually happened. Mr. Cunningham can, but it's an issue that the 1035 01:40:16,850 --> 01:40:22,490 two brokers need to work out apparently. This particular firm has a brokerage firm also, 1036 01:40:23,410 --> 01:40:28,190 and no Mr. Cunningham talked to me and he said he prepared the contract, but this contract's been 1037 01:40:28,190 --> 01:40:34,330 prepared several times, so I don't think it was a significant amount of work. Obviously, 1038 01:40:34,510 --> 01:40:39,790 both sides are trying to posture themselves so that they either minimize their amount 1039 01:40:39,790 --> 01:40:41,590 or maximize the amount they received. 1040 01:40:42,710 --> 01:40:50,590 Well, the reason why it is a flag for me is this is how the contract was filled out, and 1041 01:40:50,590 --> 01:40:59,590 And the person that's put the offer, and I just cross things out, and we don't know if that's 1042 01:40:59,590 --> 01:41:01,130 kosher or if that's what's been happening. 1043 01:41:01,130 --> 01:41:02,770 How is all the time in reals? 1044 01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:07,170 Well, a lot of mine is good business, because now what they're going to do is come to our 1045 01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:07,490 people. 1046 01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:14,410 They get the fee that he gets and take off the property, that's good business for him, especially 1047 01:41:14,410 --> 01:41:16,190 he has a broker's license, though. 1048 01:41:16,190 --> 01:41:22,670 It's still us, the deal, the only way we're involved in the deal is what comes to us and what are the contingencies, right? 1049 01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:28,730 So my question is, what are the contingencies that perhaps would be a pitfall? 1050 01:41:29,170 --> 01:41:39,050 Obviously, the six million dollar deal is more attractive, but what the current, what the reason I liked of the other two was there was less contingencies than to do diligence was shorter. 1051 01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:45,070 What do we have out there that says, this deal could fall through if we agreed to take it? 1052 01:41:45,070 --> 01:41:49,070 Well, the biggest thing in my hate there are these things that are public-need in life. 1053 01:41:49,150 --> 01:41:49,870 But you don't have to. 1054 01:41:49,970 --> 01:41:50,990 I'm just saying that is it. 1055 01:41:51,470 --> 01:41:53,170 Is it something that's a huge concern? 1056 01:41:53,610 --> 01:41:54,850 Or is it the biggest issue? 1057 01:41:55,330 --> 01:41:58,050 Is it the wild assessment of how many units they can build? 1058 01:42:00,030 --> 01:42:00,130 Okay. 1059 01:42:00,410 --> 01:42:00,650 Yes, ma'am? 1060 01:42:01,190 --> 01:42:01,750 Yes, ma'am. 1061 01:42:02,290 --> 01:42:02,850 Yes, ma'am. 1062 01:42:02,850 --> 01:42:07,270 I mean, we do have to address the issue of the cross outs on the contract. 1063 01:42:07,570 --> 01:42:12,530 I mean, that's going to have to be addressed because generally whenever there's handwritten terms 1064 01:42:12,530 --> 01:42:20,350 on any agreement, they would supersede the typewritten terms, and so because this comes to us 1065 01:42:20,350 --> 01:42:25,270 with all of this scratch-outs on it, the chair would have to initial the changes. 1066 01:42:27,430 --> 01:42:28,410 So you guys 1067 01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:32,830 are going to have to decide who's name you want to be here, whether you want to agree with the 1068 01:42:32,830 --> 01:42:39,630 changes that have been made or whether you want it to go back to Mr. Cunningham. Our only obligation 1069 01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:43,070 is to pay our real estate commission. 1070 01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:44,490 That's our obligation. 1071 01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:47,150 How they divvied up who was the procuring? 1072 01:42:47,470 --> 01:42:49,910 I know Randy keeps talking about who prepared the contract, 1073 01:42:50,250 --> 01:42:52,830 but the laws that it's the procuring cause. 1074 01:42:53,470 --> 01:42:56,630 If Mr. Cunningham thinks that he procured this buyer, 1075 01:42:57,590 --> 01:42:58,290 that's one thing. 1076 01:42:58,750 --> 01:43:00,990 If he didn't, that's something between the two of them. 1077 01:43:01,010 --> 01:43:03,390 But we have to decide before we send it back. 1078 01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:04,590 If this is the one you choose, 1079 01:43:05,050 --> 01:43:07,590 whether the chairman is going to initial the changes 1080 01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:10,750 or whether the chairman is going to initial it without the changes. 1081 01:43:10,970 --> 01:43:13,250 So, unfortunately, you're going to have to decide on this one. 1082 01:43:13,330 --> 01:43:14,210 Okay, Commissioner Conner. 1083 01:43:14,710 --> 01:43:22,370 Yeah, there's an offer of $6 million on the table, which is a half a million dollars 1084 01:43:22,370 --> 01:43:24,110 over what anybody else is offered. 1085 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:32,310 I did not mean to derail anything by questioning if we knew anything about them is simply 1086 01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:47,580 inquiry. But there is at least one of the parties, also interested in this, will be there 1087 01:43:47,580 --> 01:43:49,560 if this deal falls through. 1088 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:56,880 Not at the six main dollar figure, but it was encouraged 1089 01:43:57,900 --> 01:44:02,400 to move forward if you can bring an extra half million dollars to the county. Go do that. 1090 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:10,400 Okay, if it doesn't work out, it was called, so we have a plan A and a plan B, so let's go back to it. 1091 01:44:11,300 --> 01:44:16,640 Yeah, let's go back to the attorney's question. If you choose to move forward and accept the six million, 1092 01:44:16,940 --> 01:44:21,040 I guess the first thing we have to decide is which offer we should have a motion. 1093 01:44:21,220 --> 01:44:25,980 I guess it says which offer you want to accept, and if you accept the six million, you're going to have to give direction. 1094 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:27,540 It's how you want to scratch it. 1095 01:44:28,460 --> 01:44:34,200 What's the board chair? I'm making a motion that we all we we approve the six million dollar contract 1096 01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,880 and give you the authority to 1097 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:43,900 With the changes. I mean, I agree with Randy hundred percent. This has done all the time and all they're doing is cut-up broken and 1098 01:44:45,380 --> 01:44:46,420 Instead of 1099 01:44:46,420 --> 01:44:51,600 Reemack's getting whatever percentage. He's only gonna have for that and so that's all this is here 1100 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:56,740 Okay, so the motion by commissioner crime here. I'll suck it. I'm second by commissioner canard 1101 01:44:57,540 --> 01:44:59,980 Is there any public comment on this? Yes, sir. 1102 01:45:11,060 --> 01:45:20,020 I wrote my notes. Did you give it to your name, please? My name is Hamid Ashtail. And I wrote my notes to say good afternoon, but I guess good evening by now. 1103 01:45:20,540 --> 01:45:22,640 Yeah, good night might be an order here, please. 1104 01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:32,080 So I am currently involved in the development, the 150 acres mixed use development, a cardinal form, a cardinal street near the interchange. 1105 01:45:33,860 --> 01:45:39,440 And, as far as I know, this property has been foreseen for quite some time from the county. 1106 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,820 I only heard about it about two months ago, or so. 1107 01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:52,580 So then, towards the end of March, I sent contract to Mr. Oliver paying the full asking price, 1108 01:45:52,780 --> 01:45:56,500 which was five and a half million dollars in asking for 90 days due diligence. 1109 01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:59,060 you know, just to see if there's contamination, 1110 01:45:59,480 --> 01:46:01,300 you're taking out problems, flooding issues, 1111 01:46:01,660 --> 01:46:03,080 which there are flooding issues. 1112 01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,620 And I'm a civil drainage engineer. 1113 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,740 And I figured that I could possibly solve this little somehow, 1114 01:46:09,860 --> 01:46:10,660 you know, given time. 1115 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:16,800 So Mr. Oliver sent me an email on April 1st Friday, 1116 01:46:17,460 --> 01:46:20,580 saying that for your offer to be put in front of the commission 1117 01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:24,200 to evolve on it, you should add this addendum, 1118 01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:30,140 signed this at end and that would strengthen the offer and have it to us by April 4th, which 1119 01:46:30,140 --> 01:46:37,140 was Monday, to make it to the agenda item which would be printed on April 5th, so that it 1120 01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:44,400 would come before you to vote on it. So I did that. By April 4th, I did send the contract, 1121 01:46:44,580 --> 01:46:49,040 the full contract, and none of them signed with father happens in order to miss their 1122 01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:59,980 Now, on the 12th, right before you guys is meeting, another offer came in for exactly the same thing, 1123 01:47:00,340 --> 01:47:03,120 the 5.5 million, but a little bit different terms. 1124 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:09,260 And so Mr Oliver decided that they would pull this off of the agenda at that time 1125 01:47:09,260 --> 01:47:13,940 and then present both offers in today's meeting. 1126 01:47:14,740 --> 01:47:20,300 So, at that point, I wasn't given the choice to put the other offer, you know, or to compete with anybody. 1127 01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:30,060 So, now, you know, today, you know, not April 4th or anything today, you know, they're getting another offer, brand new offer, 1128 01:47:30,440 --> 01:47:32,900 for $500,000 more than what I was offering. 1129 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:43,920 And so, if you guys are looking to get the highest and best for the property, then it would be fair to give everybody the same advice. 1130 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:50,680 I'm baptizing and say, okay, you know, give us a price proposal and just like anybody else, 1131 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:56,260 you know, then you open the bed and see who is the highest offer because this was not fair 1132 01:47:56,260 --> 01:48:02,800 in my opinion that the third party has seen both of the offers before and then they just go and 1133 01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:10,660 increase their offer by a little bit, you know, and then for you for the board to prove that, you know, 1134 01:48:10,660 --> 01:48:17,200 So I would respectfully request that you guys strike this from the, you know, don't vote 1135 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:22,760 on it today and just advertise it to the world and then have a fair system, you know, 1136 01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:27,960 that so that, you know, we open the beds and somebody is going to be $2 more than the 1137 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:28,740 other person and so. 1138 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:29,780 I need to catch up. 1139 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,560 You times expired, but we will address your point. 1140 01:48:32,620 --> 01:48:33,500 I promise you will. 1141 01:48:33,620 --> 01:48:34,280 I will discuss it. 1142 01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:34,920 Thank you so much. 1143 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:35,960 Thank you. 1144 01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:42,710 Okay, is anyone else to speak to this to this motion just say is anyone else to speak to this motion? 1145 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:51,380 Okay, so we end the public comment mr. Alby who interests anyone. Yes. I copied both of the other 1146 01:48:53,060 --> 01:48:59,060 People that expressed interest in the property when we got the offer and I sent it to you all Monday morning 1147 01:49:00,460 --> 01:49:05,820 And with the intent that if they wanted to better their offer that they could do that, 1148 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:11,900 again, I would recommend that because of the tannuous nature, my opinion, of the market, 1149 01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:19,460 that you make the selection decide how you want to proceed, but they were the intent 1150 01:49:19,460 --> 01:49:23,400 was to give them that opportunity if they wanted a better their offer because I did copy 1151 01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:24,160 them on the e-mail. 1152 01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:28,360 Okay, and we did have this out there for a while right. I mean has been on the market for a while 1153 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:36,060 It's been advertised wasn't like we decided at one meeting and got an offer the next meeting and sold right I mean, so I 1154 01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:42,840 Get I guess my concern is one side says was sure let's just keep going and going and maybe you know who knows what the limit is 1155 01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:49,600 But on the other hand you do that often enough and everybody leaves the table and you walk away with nothing. So what's the word feel about that? 1156 01:49:51,180 --> 01:49:55,720 burdened hand, my friend, okay. I mean, you can make any first and then I want to hear what and I'm 1157 01:49:55,720 --> 01:50:00,860 kind of leading with you with the burdened hand, but yes. I was just going to suggest that it sounds like 1158 01:50:00,860 --> 01:50:06,660 the speaker was suggesting you do a sealed bid, and we've had this actually listed and marketed 1159 01:50:06,660 --> 01:50:10,180 for a very long time. So that's the difference is between those two things. 1160 01:50:10,180 --> 01:50:16,740 These people came for it. Correct. You could counter all three of them, or you can take the one yet. 1161 01:50:18,060 --> 01:50:21,500 And that's the question. Yes, ma'am. Mr. 1162 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:28,380 Starrie, you sent this out yesterday. You're saying 1163 01:50:28,380 --> 01:50:34,720 money. Why do you want to send the answer to you all? Okay. So, did he have the opportunity 1164 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:40,880 to match this price? We didn't specifically say that he did, but the intent is done in 1165 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:45,620 email was to give them the opportunity to better their offer if they want it. 1166 01:50:45,820 --> 01:50:48,600 So he has an opportunity to better his offer. 1167 01:50:49,460 --> 01:50:54,600 That was the 10 one I sent that I gave you the information as soon as we basically received 1168 01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,420 it and processed it. 1169 01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,440 So we don't take comments from the, I'm sorry if we don't take comments from the audience. 1170 01:51:04,220 --> 01:51:07,060 So we have a motion to proceed. 1171 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:14,120 We've heard from that, we're now council discussions, so any more discussion from the council? 1172 01:51:14,740 --> 01:51:20,240 I mean, a one-hand you feel like this could turn into a getting war fine, but on the other hand, 1173 01:51:20,500 --> 01:51:22,380 as Commissioner Canard said, a burden to hand. 1174 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,400 It's got to be a point in time where we go. 1175 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,060 It's in front of us, let's take it. 1176 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:28,900 Yes, ma'am, Commissioner Davis. 1177 01:51:29,060 --> 01:51:33,480 I am concerned about the timeline that he was only copied on the email yesterday, 1178 01:51:33,480 --> 01:51:37,280 and with no specific invitation for highest and best offer. 1179 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:43,240 He is already, Mr. Aftari is already invested in this county. 1180 01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:49,460 Not to the level of the second better, but he has invested quite heavily in this county already 1181 01:51:49,460 --> 01:51:57,600 and it just seems a little rushed to not just say, you know, by X-Day, get the bids in 1182 01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,600 and be done with it. 1183 01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:07,080 It could be say this then, it's got to be an end to it at some point in time, so if we don't, 1184 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,940 if you don't want to choose to move on this tonight and you want to get everybody in the 1185 01:52:10,940 --> 01:52:15,940 world another opportunity to contact the broker and make an offer, there's got to be, 1186 01:52:15,940 --> 01:52:20,600 I think, a line drawn in the sand that says, this is the day, and I'll take personally 1187 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:25,400 of the other offers, I was drawn towards the one with the lower, smaller due diligence 1188 01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:33,260 I mean, the faster you can get a closing on this, the better, so what's the board's direction? 1189 01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:35,160 Madam Attorney, can we do that? 1190 01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:43,900 I mean, to the degree of saying we're going to extend the offer for two more weeks for the rebitting process, 1191 01:52:44,460 --> 01:52:48,580 or we won't call it a bit, we'll just say two more weeks, at which time, at that meeting, 1192 01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:53,280 where I take what we believe to be the best offer, not necessarily the highest order. 1193 01:52:54,180 --> 01:53:03,320 You can certainly do that, or alternatively, you can counter offer each of the offers that you have and tell them what you want to accept. 1194 01:53:03,380 --> 01:53:07,680 Rather than wait for them to tell you what they're going to pay you. 1195 01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:08,260 Okay. 1196 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:08,940 Well, there you go. 1197 01:53:09,140 --> 01:53:09,400 Yes, ma'am. 1198 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,480 Let me go ahead and then you got it. 1199 01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:11,920 Go ahead. 1200 01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:11,940 Come on. 1201 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,280 Go ahead. 1202 01:53:14,980 --> 01:53:15,620 Somebody do it. 1203 01:53:15,620 --> 01:53:15,940 Okay. 1204 01:53:16,380 --> 01:53:17,520 So then in that's the case. 1205 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:27,080 I would like to tell, let's start with the, we have a motion on the floor. 1206 01:53:27,420 --> 01:53:31,260 Yeah, we got to deal with that first, but we can have this part discussion. 1207 01:53:31,900 --> 01:53:35,040 So if you're not going to support this and you want to do something different, tell us why. 1208 01:53:35,540 --> 01:53:39,260 I don't feel comfortable, six million great sounds fantastic. 1209 01:53:39,500 --> 01:53:44,100 I like that, but there's a couple things that are bothering me that this whole scribbling 1210 01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:52,220 out and it feels a little rushed and if the first offer would like to go to this six million 1211 01:53:53,660 --> 01:53:58,840 and you know maybe a little better closing is that appropriate to say? 1212 01:54:00,340 --> 01:54:02,060 Okay so commission your current? 1213 01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:07,180 Mr. Oliver, do you feel, let me ask you to see, so you sent an egg mouth to the other 1214 01:54:07,180 --> 01:54:12,240 few offer, did any of those that you sent the egg mouth back to you respond to you? 1215 01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:18,180 You feel the only one of them did but the other the other person that put the bed and responded to you 1216 01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:25,380 They responded to me and they insigated that they wanted to stay where they were okay, so it's a you feel it 1217 01:54:25,380 --> 01:54:32,840 Okay, so the other never spot the other one did respond and the first one is responding by being here 1218 01:54:38,060 --> 01:54:42,600 Can we not just I don't we do this here? It would be my suggestion 1219 01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,980 After I made my bird in hand, come on. 1220 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:49,980 What about we table this? 1221 01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:50,980 I'll rest in my motion. 1222 01:54:51,300 --> 01:54:52,280 I'll rest in the second. 1223 01:54:52,900 --> 01:54:55,120 We will table this for two weeks and two weeks. 1224 01:54:55,340 --> 01:54:56,100 We're making a decision. 1225 01:54:56,420 --> 01:54:56,800 There you go. 1226 01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:58,780 Anybody who's interested in this property, 1227 01:54:59,080 --> 01:54:59,720 bring your best. 1228 01:55:00,180 --> 01:55:00,680 All for four. 1229 01:55:01,460 --> 01:55:01,680 Okay. 1230 01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:02,640 Hold this second. 1231 01:55:03,140 --> 01:55:04,380 Let me take a breath. 1232 01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:06,440 So, I heard Commissioner, 1233 01:55:06,700 --> 01:55:08,100 Connie Henry, send his motion. 1234 01:55:08,340 --> 01:55:10,260 Commissioner, can our rescinded it? 1235 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:10,700 Yes. 1236 01:55:10,700 --> 01:55:14,200 And now we're back to discussing this, Mr. Oliver, but what you have. 1237 01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:20,100 My suggestion, if you're going to do that, which I don't recommend, by the way, is that 1238 01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:25,120 you give them a drop dead date for best and final offer. 1239 01:55:25,380 --> 01:55:33,540 In other words, and I would make it in time, we published the agenda on Tuesday, and I would 1240 01:55:33,540 --> 01:55:39,740 probably make it like at 12 noon on Monday so that we can include it in the agenda pack, so 1241 01:55:39,740 --> 01:55:42,400 it's there for everyone to look at. 1242 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:43,980 Okay, and that matter any other comment? 1243 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:52,300 Well, the goal is to get the most money to net net the most money. 1244 01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:57,620 So there are nuances about these contracts that are different other than just the price. 1245 01:55:58,020 --> 01:56:02,440 Closing costs are different, obligations are different, due diligence is different. 1246 01:56:02,820 --> 01:56:08,700 And going with that suggestion, you're still maybe short-changing a fourth person, 1247 01:56:08,700 --> 01:56:15,760 a fifth person entity that might come forward by, you know, setting a deadline, it's certainly 1248 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:21,000 a way to go about doing it, or you can just counter back on all three and say, you know, 1249 01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:26,940 buyers pay all closing costs, buyers, and, you know, county needs to net X number of dollars 1250 01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:31,200 and throw it back at all three of them, and then you're not leaving it open for a fourth or 1251 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:34,680 a fifth person that may want to come in, and then they're going to come and tell you, hey, 1252 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,700 I didn't know about this, I just heard about you. 1253 01:56:36,700 --> 01:56:42,680 Right, right, so what about if if if we're looking at this on the on the one that's in front of us 1254 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,900 At the six million does that give us the best net? 1255 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:53,480 Yes, okay, so that's the best net from the non-numbers person from okay, but even you you're even saying yes, okay 1256 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:57,300 I mean so it's the net number right where it's not the gross number we're doing 1257 01:56:57,300 --> 01:57:04,300 So you're saying right now that the that's six million that was on the previous motion gives the county the best net based on what the 1258 01:57:04,860 --> 01:57:07,940 nuances of the contract said and who pays what? 1259 01:57:08,180 --> 01:57:10,320 Financial, but not due diligence-wise. 1260 01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:12,320 Due diligence-wise, this is 90 days 1261 01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,620 whereas the second offer was 30. 1262 01:57:14,740 --> 01:57:15,040 30 days. 1263 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,340 OK, so the due diligence is your biggest roof. 1264 01:57:20,620 --> 01:57:24,480 So in the point is that in fairness, 1265 01:57:24,660 --> 01:57:26,420 they have 30 days to find out if they're 1266 01:57:26,420 --> 01:57:29,580 going to go if it's going to be an issue or a 90 days. 1267 01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:33,500 So in the argument, it would be a 90 days. 1268 01:57:33,500 --> 01:57:35,280 you know, they can honor with more risk or whatever. 1269 01:57:36,460 --> 01:57:38,880 So, again, commissioners, I've talked a lot today 1270 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,080 about my thoughts on this. 1271 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:43,240 I personally still think there has to be a point in time 1272 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:47,560 where we say, what's the best offer in front of us? 1273 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:53,060 We can go back and say, I mean, think about this. 1274 01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,840 We could say six million with the same cash net 1275 01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,180 as what was in the best one right before us today. 1276 01:57:59,180 --> 01:58:01,080 That could be our counter offer 1277 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,580 And you could turn around and say 30 days due diligence. 1278 01:58:04,140 --> 01:58:04,780 That could be a counter. 1279 01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:07,320 I mean, if it was me, countering, that's what I'd say. 1280 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:12,340 Mr. Chair, all three of the individuals involved in this 1281 01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:16,560 are very familiar with acquiring large pieces of property, 1282 01:58:16,860 --> 01:58:19,600 developing large pieces of property, the engineering, 1283 01:58:19,740 --> 01:58:23,900 required on large pieces of property, things like that. 1284 01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:29,280 If the due diligence is cut down 1285 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,560 to such a small timeline that they're not going to be able 1286 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,900 to get the engineering done, then they're assuming more risk. 1287 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,660 So if they're assuming more risk, they're off for comes down. 1288 01:58:40,220 --> 01:58:43,860 If they're able to get the engineering done over a certain due 1289 01:58:43,860 --> 01:58:47,760 diligence period of time, then the offer can go up. 1290 01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:53,360 If after their due diligence, they say, you know what? 1291 01:58:53,780 --> 01:58:55,840 We're not interested in this deal. 1292 01:58:55,840 --> 01:59:02,480 We've already got somebody else who is ready to say, you know what, if that deal falls through, 1293 01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:03,300 we will go here. 1294 01:59:03,540 --> 01:59:03,700 That's right. 1295 01:59:03,860 --> 01:59:11,900 My suggestion is that all three of them have far greater experience in the development world 1296 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:13,960 than any of us. 1297 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:19,300 Not a knock on any of us up here, but they know what it takes to make a deal happen. 1298 01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:25,260 What they need to know is that this board wants the greatest net when we close on this 1299 01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:30,440 of property that we can possibly get and in two weeks we're making a decision on that. 1300 01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:37,120 So they should put their best offer forward to get us the greatest net, the lowest possible 1301 01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:41,740 due diligence period that they feel comfortable with, put that foot forward and we're making 1302 01:59:41,740 --> 01:59:42,920 a decision in two weeks. 1303 01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:43,940 And that's good. 1304 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:48,160 And I think that's a great idea, but I just want to clarify something you said. 1305 01:59:48,420 --> 01:59:49,260 These three better. 1306 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:50,080 So what? 1307 01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:50,620 Or any? 1308 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:51,000 What? 1309 01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:52,320 Well, and I'll say that's all different things. 1310 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:59,020 See what I'm thinking is we say the three betters that are in front of us now, okay, that here's what we want. 1311 01:59:59,120 --> 01:59:59,960 To me, that's kind of the count. 1312 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:14,960 So we want the best net. Everything you just said. But if you open it back up to everybody else in the world, that has actually had an opportunity to do it, it seems to me that we're really muddy in the waters because then we might lose some of these people that are very serious. 1313 02:00:15,260 --> 02:00:23,400 We know three of them are very serious. I hate to see somebody come in and offer us nine million and then have a big list of contingencies and all that kind of stuff. 1314 02:00:23,940 --> 02:00:25,440 Yes, sir, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. 1315 02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:32,720 I'm going to make a motion that we go back and give them until Friday at 5 o'clock. 1316 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:37,220 They come in with a best net, with a 3, coming with a best net deal. 1317 02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:39,400 Friday at 5 o'clock. 1318 02:00:39,900 --> 02:00:49,680 I would note that Mr. Stories offer as Kim to provide a city would provide a letter that he had the financial 1319 02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:56,840 were with all the clothes within 72 hours of approval, the contract, the other two provided 1320 02:00:56,840 --> 02:01:02,140 bank assurance, they had the money to close, I mean, with that gap, with that gap, I 1321 02:01:02,140 --> 02:01:08,800 thought that we would, and so you want them to have a financial proof of ability to close 1322 02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,940 with the counter-offer, if that's the other day, if you understood. 1323 02:01:13,300 --> 02:01:18,060 So let's make sure clear on this, so the motion is, only the three in front of us, come 1324 02:01:18,060 --> 02:01:23,420 back with their best offer with the quickest due diligence period as we were talking about 1325 02:01:23,420 --> 02:01:28,040 that they want to do and that we have assurance is that whoever's picked they can 1326 02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:32,080 close within 72 hours after meeting all of the things just made that. 1327 02:01:32,500 --> 02:01:37,420 And would you would you consider adding to your motion that they utilize a local closing 1328 02:01:37,420 --> 02:01:38,280 company? 1329 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:39,320 Would you consider that? 1330 02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:46,320 And they utilize a local closing company and everything's in by five o'clock of this Friday. 1331 02:01:47,420 --> 02:01:48,120 That gives it plenty of time. 1332 02:01:48,140 --> 02:01:48,520 Everything. 1333 02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:50,680 They're all present. 1334 02:01:51,300 --> 02:01:51,480 Yeah. 1335 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:52,460 Five o'clock on Friday. 1336 02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:55,500 That gives Randy time to go through there. 1337 02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:56,820 The staff time to go through there. 1338 02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:58,720 And it's put on the agenda for the next meeting. 1339 02:01:59,500 --> 02:01:59,960 It gives out. 1340 02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:00,900 And that's it. 1341 02:02:00,900 --> 02:02:03,620 And there will be a decision today that they should. 1342 02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:08,320 Do you want to specify maximum due diligence per realistically that can't close 1343 02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:11,200 in 72 hours after due diligence is done. 1344 02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:13,760 It is the type of work that all I can't do. 1345 02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:14,620 Well, they don't have to. 1346 02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:16,640 I think what you said is they can do that. 1347 02:02:16,940 --> 02:02:17,760 They can do that. 1348 02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:21,880 Oh, they have to provide a financial viability form that they have 1349 02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:23,980 a financial viability to close the property. 1350 02:02:24,180 --> 02:02:31,020 But if you want a variable to a 90-day due diligence, a 30-day close 1351 02:02:31,020 --> 02:02:33,860 after that, and they have to provide financial assurance. 1352 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:34,460 Yes. 1353 02:02:34,460 --> 02:02:35,240 So they can close. 1354 02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:35,640 Yes. 1355 02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:36,920 In 30 days' pleasure. 1356 02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:44,400 And we're dealing just with those three and they have the final offer has to be in by 1357 02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:44,960 that date. 1358 02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,960 Do you want to address at the same time if there's going to be any scratch ads on it or should 1359 02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:50,120 we stay out of that? 1360 02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:55,340 I don't. 1361 02:02:55,340 --> 02:03:04,380 I think that the real estate broker can handle that, but remember, it's got to be net. 1362 02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:08,860 So, you know, if they're going to give us an offer where we have to pay closing costs or 1363 02:03:08,860 --> 02:03:16,040 they need to calculate that into the county's net because one offer was different than the others in that regard. 1364 02:03:16,500 --> 02:03:18,980 Okay, so we don't really care about what whose name is in there. 1365 02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,160 We just care about what those fees are going to be and they just they work out who gets them. 1366 02:03:23,340 --> 02:03:23,500 Correct. 1367 02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,900 So we all clear is the clear clear on the motion. 1368 02:03:27,340 --> 02:03:27,500 Yes, ma'am. 1369 02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:28,820 Does it want to make sure you have it? 1370 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:29,360 Yes. 1371 02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:30,820 Let me read this back to you. 1372 02:03:30,820 --> 02:03:37,960 mission take a back until Friday at 5 p.m. to give the best offer to the three offers that were 1373 02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:45,020 made with financial viability form within 72 hours of 90 day due diligence and 30 day 1374 02:03:45,020 --> 02:03:53,020 close utilizing a local closing company. Does that represent your motion? Is that 72 hour? I'm sorry, 1375 02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:58,460 the 72 hour thing. You're saying that they have to provide financial viability within 72 hours 1376 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:01,760 of the 90-day due diligence. 1377 02:04:01,780 --> 02:04:02,680 I think they should. 1378 02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:07,820 They need to provide the financial, the financial capability to close with the offer. 1379 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:11,680 What I would say, yes, with the offer, that's what I was going to say, with the offer. 1380 02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:16,660 As a Friday at five o'clock, they must provide financial stability that they can close. 1381 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:20,640 After the 90-day due diligence, they can close within 30 days, and they have the financial 1382 02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:21,520 back into that. 1383 02:04:22,300 --> 02:04:23,380 So we all clear in a motion. 1384 02:04:23,660 --> 02:04:24,480 I'll clear in a second. 1385 02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:34,520 Okay, I'll think we've taken public input on this new motion so now we can open up again a public comment from the audience and then we'll continue 1386 02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:36,680 Do you have something before you hear from them? 1387 02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:37,240 No, no, no. 1388 02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:37,700 Okay. 1389 02:04:39,660 --> 02:04:41,040 Yeah, we have somebody coming up. 1390 02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:42,640 You're right after him, if you want. 1391 02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:43,540 I got one question. 1392 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:44,380 Okay. 1393 02:04:45,380 --> 02:04:47,920 If you come up and tell us your name please and you have a criminal. 1394 02:04:48,380 --> 02:04:48,990 That's a way to do that. 1395 02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:49,920 Doesn't matter. 1396 02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:50,340 You're still new. 1397 02:04:50,460 --> 02:04:51,180 You're going to be right Paps. 1398 02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:52,060 Yes. 1399 02:04:52,060 --> 02:04:59,480 And the only question that I have is, since you're going to get bids, it's both all three 1400 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:00,480 and we're the same, 1401 02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:07,640 okay, then we decide which one we think is the best, okay, yes sir. 1402 02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:19,460 Yes, my name is Amidash Daring again, and the first of all, in the email that Mr. Oliver 1403 02:05:19,460 --> 02:05:23,200 sent yesterday, it was not an invitation to bid higher. 1404 02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:27,500 It was just that these are the three bits that are going to go in front of the commission. 1405 02:05:27,500 --> 02:05:38,240 I would immediately send back to Mr. Oliver that yeah, my author would be 6.25 million dollars immediately, you know, if that had been the case, so that was not the case. 1406 02:05:38,860 --> 02:05:50,060 The other thing was that Mr. Oliver had given me 10 days after the signing of the contract to provide the proof of funds, which was fine. 1407 02:05:50,060 --> 02:06:01,060 So now, you know, going back and having two days, you know, to scramble, you know, whatever and then try to get, you know, and the fact is that 1408 02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:07,760 I don't know when the next board meeting is, you know, so I guess that's really the time that this thing will come to fruition. 1409 02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:12,100 You know, that will for you, ladies and gentlemen to vote on it. 1410 02:06:12,540 --> 02:06:15,980 So why not just give us a little bit more time, you know, just to make it to the agenda. 1411 02:06:15,980 --> 02:06:22,840 just like the last time, all of her gave me one day before the agenda was published to put the 1412 02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:28,880 burden, you know, and you could do the same thing again, you know. And then, and then, and the 1413 02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:33,040 little more time for the proof of fun, you know, would help too, you know, in this case. 1414 02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:39,440 You know, so, I mean, you know, not, not everybody is liquid for, you know, for upwards of five 1415 02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:44,480 six million dollars, you know. And so, you need a little bit of time to be able to get your hands 1416 02:06:46,180 --> 02:06:55,500 I mean, I put my best foot forward in good faith right off the back, I offer the full purchase price. 1417 02:06:56,380 --> 02:06:57,740 I played by the rules. 1418 02:06:58,080 --> 02:07:01,500 I came out with the deadline that Mr. Oliver given me. 1419 02:07:01,900 --> 02:07:06,180 And then I just feel it's unfair that after the deadline is passed, 1420 02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:12,220 then one day before the commission meets, they accept another offer. 1421 02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:22,340 And then say, okay, well, I mean, in any kind of a bidding situation, if you know what the other party is bidding, you can bid one more dollar, you know? 1422 02:07:23,260 --> 02:07:24,140 Thank you. 1423 02:07:24,460 --> 02:07:25,160 Yes, thank you. 1424 02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,120 Is anyone else to speak on this motion? 1425 02:07:28,660 --> 02:07:30,780 Okay, so we'll go back to the board now. 1426 02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:31,800 Yes, Mr. Sleibler. 1427 02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:41,000 So the way I understand this is, you know, there was an offer put in and it's public record. 1428 02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:58,400 So others saw that, so now all of this is now public record as of today, so that that is the problem with dealing with that's why economic development is kind of a precarious with government because everything is public record. 1429 02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:06,500 So, you now have the advantage of public record where others might have taken advantage of your public record. 1430 02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:14,540 So, I would just do your look through everything and come up with the deadline. 1431 02:08:15,340 --> 02:08:17,260 I think you've given four days. 1432 02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:23,580 I mean, you've picked Friday, you picked Friday, but that's all I have to say. 1433 02:08:23,580 --> 02:08:28,920 Okay, you know, again, I'd just say what we're looking at, this is from a business perspective, 1434 02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:33,900 if I have somebody that wants to buy my house and he has here's cash, 1435 02:08:34,180 --> 02:08:37,660 and somebody else has given me time to find a money, that's a whole different thing. 1436 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:42,700 You know, not saying they can't find the money, but when somebody comes to the table with here's cash, 1437 02:08:43,300 --> 02:08:44,400 that that carries a lot of weight. 1438 02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:51,140 So I think what we're looking for here when we say the best deal is that that's the big thing. 1439 02:08:51,140 --> 02:08:57,720 know, is the due diligence process is one thing, but I would think in this kind of offering 1440 02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:02,720 when you have two people that step right up and say, no issue in the funding, that that 1441 02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:03,520 carries a lot of weight. 1442 02:09:04,180 --> 02:09:09,620 So I don't have a problem supporting the motion, it gives everybody these three, I'm not 1443 02:09:09,620 --> 02:09:10,240 to say, bidders. 1444 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:15,120 These three offers to go back, sharpen their pencils, and just look at it. 1445 02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:18,480 It doesn't necessarily mean more money, it might just be a better deal. 1446 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:23,920 folks probably have heard what the commissioners had to say today and they can decide if in their 1447 02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:29,320 mind it's sweetens the deal by more money or less do do it in time or it's commission 1448 02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:35,200 can't report it out let them decide what works best for them okay so any more discussion on 1449 02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:40,800 the motion I think we're all clear on it. Mr. Alder. I am. Madam attorney. We're all clear. 1450 02:09:40,940 --> 02:09:47,080 We're on the same page. Okay all right so that's it. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed say 1451 02:09:47,080 --> 02:09:53,440 And the answer to the final question. That's two weeks, right? So in two weeks the next meeting that will come back will make a final decision 1452 02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:57,680 Back in is the motions word. They're due by five o'clock on this Friday 1453 02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:02,980 I will send the email out in the morning. Okay, very good. Thank you, sir. Okay, I am F 1454 02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:14,800 Anything that you want to really don't see anything right here. It says completed. So we haven't had anything. I don't believe so just I've got a couple of 1455 02:10:15,860 --> 02:10:16,340 Okay 1456 02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:20,220 You don't want to put that on next time that we'll vote on, right? 1457 02:10:20,220 --> 02:10:22,880 So we don't have to really do anything with item F, then. 1458 02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:27,920 Okay, let's look at item G. You want to talk about this? 1459 02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:29,620 You want me to talk about this? 1460 02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:36,620 The only thing I'll say about this is we asked Mr. Oliver put together a timeline, which we 1461 02:10:36,620 --> 02:10:39,340 see that on the back page of the agenda item. 1462 02:10:40,300 --> 02:10:47,300 He's also, I believe, we, the process we used here was to ask for submissions for this, 1463 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:53,240 is that was, and these five firms have stepped up, is that where we're at? 1464 02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:53,920 About a day. 1465 02:10:54,220 --> 02:10:59,260 And what you're asking to board today is to make a selection on which one of these firms 1466 02:10:59,260 --> 02:11:05,960 can move forward so that the discussion process can begin actually according to your timeline, 1467 02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:09,220 tomorrow, between tomorrow and May 24th. 1468 02:11:09,220 --> 02:11:14,000 So I'll just say this commissioners, I don't know how much time you've had to deal with this. 1469 02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:19,160 I really don't know any of these firms, so what I did is I reached out to friends and 1470 02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:26,240 colleagues in the government business and asked for people who may have recommendations or 1471 02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:33,640 no recommendations, I'll just cut to the chase and say basically all of them meet kind of what 1472 02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:40,960 We're looking forward that after talking to a few folks, you know, one firm is out of Texas, 1473 02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:45,100 one firm is out of Iowa or someplace like that. 1474 02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:51,440 The one that came back was Slaven, which was, I believe, the number four in here, Slaven Management 1475 02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:52,500 Consultants. 1476 02:11:52,540 --> 02:11:55,580 That came back was the highest recommendation to me. 1477 02:11:56,040 --> 02:12:00,620 Based on, I guess they've been in this business for a long, long time, and they've had 1478 02:12:00,620 --> 02:12:02,860 a lot of satisfied customers. 1479 02:12:02,860 --> 02:12:10,320 Others gave us a complete list or a resume with other customers, but some of those don't show the results of the listing. 1480 02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:15,320 They show what was listed and some of them have been kind of our older, you know, 1481 02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:17,960 they're listing some listings that go back to for three years. 1482 02:12:18,700 --> 02:12:21,660 So, I mean, I have no concerns. 1483 02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:25,920 And I think by the time you weigh all the pluses and minuses of things, 1484 02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:28,240 included the firms are very, very close and priced. 1485 02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:33,040 So, I kind of went with the people that have used these people, all these people in the past, 1486 02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:35,020 the some degree, and that's why I can share. 1487 02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:43,080 I make a motion that we hire a slave and management consult, seconds up the search. 1488 02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:43,640 Okay. 1489 02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:47,420 So we have a motion by Commissioner Canard, and a second by Commissioner Carnahan, 1490 02:12:47,500 --> 02:12:48,800 is there any public comment? 1491 02:12:50,220 --> 02:12:55,180 And I assume that, again, that's who you'll create a contract with these folks, 1492 02:12:55,180 --> 02:12:57,060 Well, that come back to us now. 1493 02:12:57,240 --> 02:12:58,460 No, we'll issue a purchase order. 1494 02:12:59,300 --> 02:12:59,620 OK. 1495 02:12:59,780 --> 02:13:01,600 So then, if we approve this tonight, 1496 02:13:01,780 --> 02:13:02,620 we'll be the next step. 1497 02:13:02,620 --> 02:13:04,540 They'll contact us and we'll move forward. 1498 02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:08,920 We'll need to give them the contact information so they can meet with you. 1499 02:13:09,580 --> 02:13:13,920 They'll perform the services outlined in their scope of work that they've provided you. 1500 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:14,980 OK, very good chair. 1501 02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:15,540 Yes, sir. 1502 02:13:15,580 --> 02:13:17,440 I'll put it on the record right now. 1503 02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:19,420 I was looking for a administrator. 1504 02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:21,620 The color of the straw. 1505 02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:29,320 So I think they can understand real fast why I'm at with his experience when it comes to financial and old nine yards. 1506 02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:30,400 Very good. 1507 02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:37,460 So the what's being presented to you tonight is select a firm to conduct administrator search the motion. 1508 02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:45,380 By Commissioner Canary and second by Commissioner Cranahan was to select slave and management consultants for the proposed price. 1509 02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:48,680 Everybody understands that is any further commissioner discussion? 1510 02:13:49,020 --> 02:13:49,280 Yes, ma'am. 1511 02:13:50,260 --> 02:13:52,300 I did exactly what you did. 1512 02:13:52,900 --> 02:13:55,460 I went through looked at where they're based, 1513 02:13:56,060 --> 02:13:59,440 how old the records were, what they were giving us. 1514 02:13:59,960 --> 02:14:02,440 My question was, but you all have answered is, 1515 02:14:02,500 --> 02:14:04,760 what is going to be the criteria to date? 1516 02:14:04,980 --> 02:14:07,480 It's just to select where we're going to go by, 1517 02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:09,500 or they floor to base, or we're going to go by money. 1518 02:14:11,220 --> 02:14:17,440 So we're going by recommendation from people that you know in the industry. 1519 02:14:18,420 --> 02:14:26,600 And the other one I was thinking was success rate, which was in website and Slave in was one of the ones that I did also like. 1520 02:14:27,020 --> 02:14:40,360 The only question I have is, at one point you had mentioned, Commissioner Carnaghan had mentioned FAC and I just, it just never came back and I was just curious. 1521 02:14:40,360 --> 02:14:49,940 Okay, so we send it out to the people who are on the original list of the FAC runs a program that they can bring in an administrator for when you 1522 02:14:49,940 --> 02:14:51,740 For a top period of time of your eyes 1523 02:14:51,740 --> 02:14:59,980 They also they also record they also offer recruitment service okay, and I was advised that while those are all well and good those kind of come with 1524 02:15:02,740 --> 02:15:28,780 So I'll just leave it at that. And I did recognize I brought up the one thing Commissioner Sleibaud did was I guess Sleibaud is out of Georgia, but they're close to us, and they're like the closest I guess of that. So they kind of, and they have much, much forward experience. So that's really what I was looking for is not so much where they are, is what kind of forward experience they have hiring. And I think we all said that was important just. 1525 02:15:28,780 --> 02:15:30,680 Any other commissioner discussion? 1526 02:15:32,060 --> 02:15:32,200 Yes. 1527 02:15:32,920 --> 02:15:37,840 Just to throw that out there that their website was very easy. 1528 02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:42,740 So I thought as a potential candidate, that was appealing to me. 1529 02:15:43,980 --> 02:15:54,560 And then the total expense, which I'm sorry to hear that FACC, because I didn't think there was a fee for the F from FACC. 1530 02:15:55,440 --> 02:16:03,120 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So the total top dollar expenses is the 23, 1531 02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:06,140 four-slay then. 1532 02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:11,680 So it says not to exceed. Yeah. Not to exceed. Okay. Okay. 1533 02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:16,680 15, 475 plus expenses not to exceed 23, 980s. 1534 02:16:16,840 --> 02:16:19,800 I'll defer to your contacts because I don't have any. So. 1535 02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:24,540 Well, 1536 02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:28,120 for the travel of the people that we select to interview. 1537 02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:31,060 So we are going to have some control over A, 1538 02:16:31,060 --> 02:16:32,620 how many people make your shortlist 1539 02:16:32,620 --> 02:16:33,420 that you want to interview. 1540 02:16:34,620 --> 02:16:36,620 So those are the kind of things to keep in mind. 1541 02:16:36,860 --> 02:16:40,140 But the first thing is, is to set down and the way these guys 1542 02:16:40,140 --> 02:16:42,720 will work is they'll meet with every individual commissioner 1543 02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:45,880 for as long as you want to go down your list 1544 02:16:45,880 --> 02:16:48,460 of what you are looking for in your next administrator 1545 02:16:48,460 --> 02:16:51,560 and they will create the metrics that they go out and look. 1546 02:16:51,900 --> 02:16:53,940 And in any interview, these people don't know 1547 02:16:53,940 --> 02:16:55,320 who they're looking for. 1548 02:16:55,980 --> 02:16:59,520 And it's not going to meet everybody's number one, 1549 02:16:59,560 --> 02:17:01,680 but you're going to try to find some common ground 1550 02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:03,260 and go from there. 1551 02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:07,060 And again, thank you, Mr. Oliver, for this schedule. 1552 02:17:07,900 --> 02:17:09,400 So if we stick to this schedule, 1553 02:17:09,500 --> 02:17:13,060 it seems to me the commissioners are doing their job tonight 1554 02:17:13,060 --> 02:17:15,940 by selecting their recruiter, you're looking at new administrator, 1555 02:17:16,140 --> 02:17:19,120 start no later than September 5th, according to this. 1556 02:17:19,660 --> 02:17:21,100 OK, very good. 1557 02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:23,040 commissioners any other discussion 1558 02:17:23,740 --> 02:17:27,200 case on motion home favorite say i i i i i 1559 02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:28,400 post a nay 1560 02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:31,940 and that passes unanimously i believe now we are up to 1561 02:17:32,700 --> 02:17:35,780 there's no advisory board announcements so we are at 1562 02:17:35,780 --> 02:17:38,300 you know we we had plenty of advisory board 1563 02:17:38,300 --> 02:17:41,080 yes right all more 1564 02:17:41,900 --> 02:17:45,940 minister there let's go to committee reports and commissioners 1565 02:17:45,940 --> 02:17:47,720 commissioners uh commissioner currently and yet many 1566 02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:50,080 i don't have it okay commissioners they bought 1567 02:17:50,080 --> 02:18:00,380 I see my notes, I've been very busy meeting with people and I had a telephone conference 1568 02:18:00,380 --> 02:18:05,660 with Neko and but nothing really exciting to report. 1569 02:18:06,140 --> 02:18:07,860 Okay, thank you, Davis. 1570 02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:13,680 TVC meeting was kind of exciting, mad and media is up in their game even more, so we're going 1571 02:18:13,680 --> 02:18:19,060 to we table that particular portion, but we're going to look at it again doing enhanced 1572 02:18:21,580 --> 02:18:28,800 basically augmented reality app on the phone to be able to experience 1573 02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:33,200 manatees through your phone, which is pretty cool. So we're going to take a deep look at 1574 02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:38,180 that but stay tuned. That's all I have. That's kind of a crazy to think that Madden can 1575 02:18:38,180 --> 02:18:42,760 up their game. That's the right. Yeah, okay great. Okay Commissioner 1576 02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:48,080 can aren't nothing from community boards. Okay let's move back to Commissioner 1577 02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:52,820 Karrahan any force I do first of all most I want to congratulate City of 1578 02:18:52,820 --> 02:18:57,300 Embrace on their big announcement on the future fast and bring in a big country 1579 02:18:57,300 --> 02:19:02,880 of music star in and I think that the county should reach out to the City of 1580 02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:08,240 Embrace because I think it's a great opportunity not only for City of 1581 02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:12,200 Embrace but for the county to work together the showcase what we have here. 1582 02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:18,660 coming so, you know, they're going to be needing transportation, it's going to be a big 1583 02:19:18,660 --> 02:19:22,640 event so they're going to be needing help with transportation whether it's, you know, 1584 02:19:22,660 --> 02:19:26,580 park it at whispering times and but I think that we need to be communicating with them to 1585 02:19:26,580 --> 02:19:32,800 show off such a county in general because this is a great opportunity and I think it's going 1586 02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:36,560 to be a huge fan draw and so I think we need to be a part of it. 1587 02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:40,400 I spoke a little bit with Eric and I told him I would bring it up today and he was kind 1588 02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:45,020 excited and hope that we jump on the bandwagon so I don't know that we want to direct 1589 02:19:45,020 --> 02:19:52,040 staff to do it or we would ask the chair of the TDC to reach out through the TDC 1590 02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:55,760 and there that way but again I think there's a great opportunity to share 1591 02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:59,700 case our county with all the people that are that's going to be coming in and to be 1592 02:19:59,700 --> 02:20:03,140 a part of be a part of this. So commissioners, would that wish your thoughts? 1593 02:20:05,180 --> 02:20:11,880 Sounds good. I wish great. Okay. So what are you 1594 02:20:11,880 --> 02:20:17,040 You know, do we want staff to reach out or you're able to go through TDC, but I think that we need to be 1595 02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:21,720 involved in this, but for a lot of different aspects, you know, whether we work with them or 1596 02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:26,440 providing busing to get people, because they're going to, you know, they're not not parking downtown, 1597 02:20:27,180 --> 02:20:34,440 so we need to be involved, except the main thing that TDC funds are has fund and the policy 1598 02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:41,340 to date has been, they fund out of county advertising for the United. 1599 02:20:41,500 --> 02:20:43,920 Not talking about fighting, we're talking about being involved with it. 1600 02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:46,800 Okay, well with that, the only thing they have really is fun, right? 1601 02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:49,180 So when it comes to busing and stuff, I would say. 1602 02:20:49,180 --> 02:20:54,160 Well, okay, so then I would ask that our staff reach out to their management department. 1603 02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:55,020 We can do that. 1604 02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:57,600 We have to be careful because of the federal transit rules. 1605 02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:58,960 Well, it's the... 1606 02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:02,760 Well, whether we help them in that direction or we help them in other areas, 1607 02:21:02,760 --> 02:21:08,600 But I think it's going to be a big draw to our community and I think it's a it's a great time to show off 1608 02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:13,660 What we have here's a discount and we like on the seaside. Can we like to help them so we love to help absolutely 1609 02:21:14,180 --> 02:21:21,620 But and I just come back. I don't know what the deadlines are, but I would think they might want to approach the TDC for out of county 1610 02:21:21,620 --> 02:21:27,300 Abertice I think they I think they I think they they're good on that. Okay. I think they are set up a deal 1611 02:21:27,300 --> 02:21:32,600 But I'm sure that if the chair lady would love for them to come over and 1612 02:21:32,760 --> 02:21:34,920 make it may be a presentation on what they're doing. 1613 02:21:35,300 --> 02:21:36,920 Yeah, but please let her know that. 1614 02:21:37,020 --> 02:21:40,420 Yeah, so maybe reach out to her, but I think the county needs to be involved in 1615 02:21:40,420 --> 02:21:43,480 we need all this sort of show that we all work together 1616 02:21:43,480 --> 02:21:45,560 as a community and make things happen. 1617 02:21:45,620 --> 02:21:47,460 We certainly love to be brief, I'm sure. 1618 02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:49,480 Okay, anything else? 1619 02:21:49,620 --> 02:21:50,040 That'd be it. 1620 02:21:50,380 --> 02:21:50,620 All right, great. 1621 02:21:50,920 --> 02:21:52,720 Commissioner Kenalard, you get anything for us? 1622 02:21:53,580 --> 02:21:55,440 Don't talk library policy or anything? 1623 02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:57,220 Library policy? 1624 02:21:57,500 --> 02:21:58,300 No, no, no, no, no. 1625 02:21:58,920 --> 02:21:59,560 Thank you. 1626 02:21:59,660 --> 02:22:00,040 Okay. 1627 02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,520 Commissioner Davis, you have the night in force. 1628 02:22:02,900 --> 02:22:05,720 Awesome. And thank you to Commissioner Carnigan for 1629 02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:12,160 team up showcasing. So, it came about in the very first board retreat that we 1630 02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:16,320 that Commissioner Slay bought and I had. She brought up a very good point which was kind 1631 02:22:16,320 --> 02:22:20,640 of funny because you're kind of blind to your own stuff. She said, our two airports really 1632 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:27,960 need to be a showcase for economic development. And just today, I was speaking with 1633 02:22:27,960 --> 02:22:32,180 Christopher of Representatives have been in the audience very patiently since one 1634 02:22:32,180 --> 02:22:40,120 and half actually waiting for this and Ms. Davis just brought up that they have 1635 02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:46,060 somebody in house that has a 1200 employee firm in the Netherlands and I said hey 1636 02:22:46,060 --> 02:22:50,960 they want to expand to the United States but that goes to show the Christopher of 1637 02:22:50,960 --> 02:22:56,180 Airport has hosted pretty wealthy people from all over the world and we are a 1638 02:22:56,180 --> 02:23:06,100 beautiful community. And these folks are wealthy typically because they own businesses and if they want to expand here then that needs to be a showcase. 1639 02:23:06,380 --> 02:23:13,360 We also have folks that aren't coming in just for flight training but coming in on jets and whatnot and it needs to be a showcase. 1640 02:23:13,840 --> 02:23:22,540 On the influence side, Pippistro was bringing in very well-heeled people from all over the United States as well and they need to be showcases. 1641 02:23:22,540 --> 02:23:29,360 So, back when the Chris of Money came out last year, it was 23,000 for Chris River and 13,000 1642 02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:34,880 for Emerniss if I'm remembering correctly and I had a discussion with Mr. Oliver and I said, 1643 02:23:34,880 --> 02:23:41,320 what do you think of us asking the two FBOs, what can we do to improve the appearance of, 1644 02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:46,260 because you can't really do a lot on an airport with 13 or 23,000. I mean, you're done a 1645 02:23:46,260 --> 02:23:51,800 weighing in, it's like $50,000. So, same goes for actual infrastructure. So what can we do with this small 1646 02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:57,760 amount of money to try to improve what we have going, right? So somehow, some way that 1647 02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:02,300 translated in the last month to all the landscaping being ripped out, now they're looking 1648 02:24:02,300 --> 02:24:08,080 at taking the trees down, some of the trees down. And when I asked about it at the last 1649 02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:12,600 aviation advisory board meeting, I was told that the Christmas money had been 1650 02:24:12,600 --> 02:24:19,060 diverted to reselling the roof. In the meantime, since last fall, when we talked about this, 1651 02:24:19,060 --> 02:24:25,560 Mr. Chen, who owns Chris Lairo Group, he is an incredible architect from New York City. 1652 02:24:26,260 --> 02:24:33,700 He donated all of his experience to create something, a plan that to spruce up the exterior 1653 02:24:33,700 --> 02:24:39,660 the entryway to the hanger, to the office building of the FBL. 1654 02:24:39,960 --> 02:24:46,560 And that has now been, like I said, repurposed to sealing the roof, which is normal maintenance 1655 02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:51,240 that we should be handling, and then the worst part of, you know, that's, that's about enough, 1656 02:24:51,380 --> 02:24:55,440 but the worst part is that now all, and you guys have pictures of this, the landscape 1657 02:24:55,440 --> 02:25:01,460 is gone, and they're talking about facilities maintenance just came out, and marked two trees 1658 02:25:01,460 --> 02:25:06,660 to be cut down for no other reason, and then the pine needles are littering the gutters. 1659 02:25:06,880 --> 02:25:13,540 So put gutter guards up. Those pine trees are, and one of the pictures in here is of the massive 1660 02:25:13,540 --> 02:25:19,880 party that they have, it's a big fly-in event, and that that shade of being an airport 1661 02:25:19,880 --> 02:25:25,700 in Scotland is this being a pilot. Being an airport is very much a community environment, 1662 02:25:26,680 --> 02:25:31,540 and that shade is the only thing that makes hanging out on that front lawn variable for 1663 02:25:31,540 --> 02:25:37,360 forms out of the year when it's hotter than the surface of the sun. So we're doing fly-ins 1664 02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:42,380 every August, and we have this amazing community that comes out there. That's why people 1665 02:25:42,380 --> 02:25:46,900 keep coming from all over the world to visit our airports. So I would very much like to 1666 02:25:46,900 --> 02:25:52,300 get this out of the open and provide hopefully provide staff guidance that Chris 1667 02:25:52,300 --> 02:25:57,200 a money needs to go back into sprucing up our airports for economic development purposes. 1668 02:25:57,880 --> 02:26:02,280 And I don't believe that trees need to be cut. They don't. They've been checked 1669 02:26:02,280 --> 02:26:06,700 they're healthy. The three being trimmed is fine but the two being taken down is really 1670 02:26:06,700 --> 02:26:10,240 a non-starter. So what action are you requesting? 1671 02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:17,100 I would like the Chris of Funds that were originally promised to the FBOs to spruce up for economic development. 1672 02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:25,060 I would really like those to be reaffirmed that that's what those are supposed to be used for, not resealing the roof, which is basic maintenance. 1673 02:26:25,860 --> 02:26:27,100 I would agree. 1674 02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:29,280 Okay. You're sacking that? Yes. 1675 02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:29,940 All right. 1676 02:26:30,100 --> 02:26:33,260 Well, I just want to make sure, so what happens to the roof? 1677 02:26:33,800 --> 02:26:35,960 Does the roof not get repaired? 1678 02:26:35,960 --> 02:26:43,200 Now, well, after repair the roof, I mean, the biggest thing is how do you see out as a 1679 02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:49,260 commissioner day to see the 23 and the 13,000 would be the aviation advisory board that's 1680 02:26:49,260 --> 02:26:51,820 going to make recommendation on how those are going to be spent? 1681 02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:55,920 Well, you and I just discussed the FBOs having the input. 1682 02:26:56,880 --> 02:27:01,320 I mean, obviously they're here, they can one FBOs here, they can speak to it if they like, 1683 02:27:01,700 --> 02:27:02,960 but up to the chair of course. 1684 02:27:02,960 --> 02:27:09,600 Yeah. Well, the one thing that from what I understand, I wasn't first part of this conversation 1685 02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:14,480 because I put out a schedule on things that would be done at the airport, but my understanding 1686 02:27:14,480 --> 02:27:20,660 was both at the O's. We're not totally convinced that Hans Lane's keeping was the answer 1687 02:27:20,660 --> 02:27:27,200 because they had to maintain it. And they didn't, they weren't very careful about that, 1688 02:27:27,340 --> 02:27:32,280 but I'm open to whatever more decides they want to do in the way we're improving. 1689 02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:34,980 So, can we do this? 1690 02:27:36,460 --> 02:27:39,680 I don't think a base end is not a good idea to do what you want to do. 1691 02:27:40,280 --> 02:27:44,480 The first thing I've heard came to me is, well, let's use the economic development fund to pay for it. 1692 02:27:45,220 --> 02:27:47,840 If the end result of this is economic development, right? 1693 02:27:48,220 --> 02:28:00,720 But then it comes down to shouldn't it really do me just go through this, shouldn't the recommendations come from the people that are going to have to maintain it and operate it and from the aviation advisory board or should they not be involved? 1694 02:28:00,720 --> 02:28:10,680 Yeah, I mean, right now my impression is is that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is talking about in the staff. 1695 02:28:11,060 --> 02:28:19,820 So facilities maintenance, things they're doing, they're job to go out there and cut down a tree because it'll reduce the maintenance of cleaning the gutters every year or whatnot. 1696 02:28:20,200 --> 02:28:30,260 But we need to say we can't make those kind of decisions when those are decades old pine trees that are not going to regrow if we change our mind. 1697 02:28:30,260 --> 02:28:35,040 So, for right now, the first thing to say is that we don't cut down any trees that don't 1698 02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:38,060 have to be cut down for FAA and airspace quarrel. 1699 02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:45,860 Secondly, I would like to personally, I would like to see perhaps the FBOs make a presentation 1700 02:28:45,860 --> 02:28:53,440 on what they think would help improve their to facilities that actually belong to us, but 1701 02:28:53,440 --> 02:28:58,380 they're renting them and they're dealing with the flying public and they're working with 1702 02:28:58,380 --> 02:29:01,520 folks that are coming in on aircraft and so forth. 1703 02:29:01,900 --> 02:29:07,020 And secondly, in another thing, just to say that the airports do need some attention, one 1704 02:29:07,020 --> 02:29:10,780 of these, a couple of these pictures show the light posts. 1705 02:29:10,840 --> 02:29:16,680 For example, the globes have not, in facilities maintenance is aware, or I should say, the 1706 02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:21,480 person that's in charge of running the airports was aware that the globes were not attached 1707 02:29:21,480 --> 02:29:26,720 and never got them fixed, and a jet came in the other day, spun around, and the globes 1708 02:29:26,720 --> 02:29:31,340 and flying off and you can see everything's tired of now because the maintenance was not done correctly. 1709 02:29:32,480 --> 02:29:33,480 So it needs attention. 1710 02:29:34,460 --> 02:29:36,720 So it needs to be scheduled to replace me. 1711 02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:38,680 Especially now. 1712 02:29:42,800 --> 02:29:43,300 Yeah. 1713 02:29:43,540 --> 02:29:51,220 So you recommended that the FBOs come up with a plan and that to the aviation board or bring it to us. 1714 02:29:53,220 --> 02:29:54,860 The first thing you just saying don't cut the trees. 1715 02:29:55,620 --> 02:29:56,420 First of all cut the trees. 1716 02:29:56,420 --> 02:29:59,980 That's already been taken care of. It's not hard to put a gutter gars 1717 02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:11,280 Okay, so the trees now are not a issue. Ranges has been taken care. So now comes back to we need a plan for the spending of the money, who delves the plan, who approves. 1718 02:30:12,000 --> 02:30:27,740 I think that they should present to us. I think it would be a wise decision on both of their parts to bring it up at the Aviation Advisory Board and get by in from everybody because there's some really smart people in that board that might be able to provide some additional guidance. 1719 02:30:27,740 --> 02:30:30,860 but it eventually comes to us for approval. 1720 02:30:30,860 --> 02:30:34,960 And we limited to the 23 and the 13,000, or are you going to? 1721 02:30:34,960 --> 02:30:39,280 I would say due to two levels, due to 23 and 13,000, 1722 02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:43,240 but also bring us the blue sky, because eventually, 1723 02:30:43,460 --> 02:30:44,740 we are going to do economic development. 1724 02:30:44,940 --> 02:30:48,220 We don't have the money, perhaps, a portion to this right now. 1725 02:30:48,260 --> 02:30:49,040 Oh, we got money. 1726 02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:50,440 But we need to be planning. 1727 02:30:50,780 --> 02:30:52,160 We've got to be planning ahead. 1728 02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:58,160 So okay, so anybody object to that? Commission of dates. 1729 02:30:58,540 --> 02:30:59,360 It's a swivel. 1730 02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:05,680 Oh, we're so close to the finish line, but I have to know what Chris is because I can't 1731 02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:07,900 think of what you such a Tony-amount. 1732 02:31:08,200 --> 02:31:09,700 No, but what is Chris's stand for? 1733 02:31:10,340 --> 02:31:11,220 I don't remember. 1734 02:31:11,560 --> 02:31:11,920 Oh, okay. 1735 02:31:11,960 --> 02:31:12,160 Good. 1736 02:31:12,260 --> 02:31:13,400 I thought I was just excited. 1737 02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:16,820 Another one of those government acronyms when they send your money for you, 1738 02:31:16,860 --> 02:31:17,020 songs. 1739 02:31:17,020 --> 02:31:19,800 I thought you all were in the loop and I just was so tired. 1740 02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:24,820 No, I just knew I had to do the airports and I remember being allocated to the airports and that was the one. 1741 02:31:24,820 --> 02:31:26,340 So that's one of the things I would remember. 1742 02:31:27,200 --> 02:31:36,060 So then the second part of it is, I'm so glad that you're addressing this and when things look nice and people, 1743 02:31:36,260 --> 02:31:39,800 they're going to want to, it does create economic development. 1744 02:31:40,860 --> 02:31:48,980 My past life, that's what I did into your design and you can watch any show, put some pain on it and people are like, 1745 02:31:48,980 --> 02:31:50,700 Wow, this is brand new. 1746 02:31:51,020 --> 02:31:56,580 So Kudos to you for bringing this forward and I encourage you. 1747 02:31:56,880 --> 02:32:05,200 So as I understand, the motion that is going to let each one of the FBOs come up with a plan that 1748 02:32:05,200 --> 02:32:09,340 will present to the aviation, the Vodern Board, subsequent will come to the Commission. 1749 02:32:10,100 --> 02:32:15,900 One of the plans will be to use 23,000 for a crystal river, 13,000 for Emeronus, and the other 1750 02:32:15,900 --> 02:32:21,360 will be a blue sky plan as it relates to what I've done. 1751 02:32:22,840 --> 02:32:23,520 No pun intended. 1752 02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:26,800 It sounds to me like you captured it. 1753 02:32:26,840 --> 02:32:27,700 Does it very great? 1754 02:32:27,780 --> 02:32:28,100 Yes. 1755 02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:28,800 Okay. 1756 02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:33,540 So just so I can go back now and clarify who made that motion was commissioned 1757 02:32:33,540 --> 02:32:33,920 a day. 1758 02:32:34,140 --> 02:32:34,240 Yes. 1759 02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:35,580 Who made the second? 1760 02:32:36,340 --> 02:32:36,420 Mission. 1761 02:32:36,600 --> 02:32:38,440 Can I make the second have that? 1762 02:32:38,760 --> 02:32:38,780 Good. 1763 02:32:38,780 --> 02:32:40,660 I wanted clarification of that. 1764 02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:45,640 And if what he just said is what she wants, we need to amend the motion. 1765 02:32:45,640 --> 02:32:51,160 because she had first stated to use the Chris of Fund's promise to FBOs to reaffirm that 1766 02:32:51,160 --> 02:32:54,220 those are what they're supposed to be used for not for the resealing. 1767 02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:57,900 Then you went on to have a further conversation about that. 1768 02:32:58,140 --> 02:33:07,520 So, let me clear by, I make a motion that we ask both FBOs to make a presentation on how best 1769 02:33:07,520 --> 02:33:12,660 to use 23,000 for Chris River Airport and 13,000 1770 02:33:12,660 --> 02:33:17,080 for in Emeronis Airport, specifically Chris of Funds, 1771 02:33:17,120 --> 02:33:20,060 to improve the appearance of the airport 1772 02:33:20,060 --> 02:33:21,880 for economic development reasons. 1773 02:33:22,840 --> 02:33:27,600 And secondly, to be invited to present a larger plan 1774 02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:30,040 for economic development appearances, 1775 02:33:30,180 --> 02:33:31,600 you know, gateway to the county. 1776 02:33:31,820 --> 02:33:33,500 Let's put it that way, gateway to the county. 1777 02:33:34,420 --> 02:33:35,500 Did that clarify it? 1778 02:33:35,560 --> 02:33:36,520 Yes, thank you very much. 1779 02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:43,420 Is that good? Okay, yeah, and can there's a soul in there much and just not the money the water is just keep it clear 1780 02:33:43,420 --> 02:33:49,860 Aren't related to that we're gonna have to have a discussion in the future about where the funds come from the redo the roof 1781 02:33:49,860 --> 02:33:54,320 Because the roof still needs to be done so perhaps we can come back future time 1782 02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:58,660 Mr. Oliver and you tell us what that amount's gonna be and then we can talk about it does it come from 1783 02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:04,280 Reserves as come from what are okay, and how do you spell Chris us and she don't know what it is? 1784 02:34:04,500 --> 02:34:05,400 What's that? 1785 02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:05,900 How do you spell? 1786 02:34:05,900 --> 02:34:06,960 How do I spell Chris? 1787 02:34:07,480 --> 02:34:09,060 I see RSSA, I think. 1788 02:34:09,340 --> 02:34:09,680 Is that right? 1789 02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:11,260 It's all cops. 1790 02:34:11,600 --> 02:34:12,480 RSSA, I think. 1791 02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:13,120 Okay. 1792 02:34:14,060 --> 02:34:16,380 Anything else Commissioner Davis on that? 1793 02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:16,800 No, sir. 1794 02:34:16,980 --> 02:34:18,760 Has there any public comment on that motion? 1795 02:34:20,060 --> 02:34:21,300 Any further commission discussion? 1796 02:34:22,060 --> 02:34:22,900 Uh-huh. 1797 02:34:24,210 --> 02:34:24,730 Please come up. 1798 02:34:25,310 --> 02:34:26,230 Please come up. 1799 02:34:28,080 --> 02:34:30,100 Not that we could stand up and leave if we wanted to. 1800 02:34:30,220 --> 02:34:33,080 I don't think any of us have the ability now to straighten our legs. 1801 02:34:33,520 --> 02:34:37,580 Thank you very much Mr. Chairman, Mr. and the Mrs. Commissioner. 1802 02:34:39,980 --> 02:34:49,380 I came to the last, not the last of the five years ago, I came here for the least we knew and with Captain Tom Davis. 1803 02:34:50,700 --> 02:34:54,380 It's very fast, there's already five years at that time. 1804 02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:59,400 I received such a courtesy and welcome from the previous owner. 1805 02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:01,980 I didn't thought there was a goody. 1806 02:35:02,600 --> 02:35:09,500 I specifically remember Mr. Kaliha had met a welcome remarks, and you said, 1807 02:35:10,260 --> 02:35:13,060 you don't know how big a shoe is you are stepping into. 1808 02:35:13,820 --> 02:35:17,240 And then I remember if all this five years, every day, 1809 02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:20,600 it's a reminder to me how important this airport is. 1810 02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:23,100 So I took my job very seriously. 1811 02:35:23,560 --> 02:35:27,820 Even I have not been here for a time, but I'm coming to hear more and more 1812 02:35:27,820 --> 02:35:31,400 I'm putting my house for sale. I'm moving into this neighborhood. 1813 02:35:32,120 --> 02:35:32,260 Yeah. 1814 02:35:33,380 --> 02:35:37,420 By accepting this five-year renewal, 1815 02:35:37,500 --> 02:35:41,100 Renew my commitment to the company and to this airport. 1816 02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:43,420 I just want to convey the message too. 1817 02:35:44,100 --> 02:35:46,760 Also, and I realize, 1818 02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:49,240 every day being here, 1819 02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:51,160 the airport is the showcase. 1820 02:35:51,400 --> 02:35:54,760 It's a gateway to this community and people coming. 1821 02:35:54,760 --> 02:36:02,540 And I was try to utilize some of my architectural skills, try to make it beautiful or that. 1822 02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:09,580 But the one idea we did that is the coming out of necessity of the safety on the front. 1823 02:36:10,100 --> 02:36:17,980 Last year, in the heroin season, there have so many pallet in the air already, 1824 02:36:18,320 --> 02:36:23,340 but try to avoid the weather, so they diverted to our airboat to make emergency landing. 1825 02:36:24,540 --> 02:36:30,900 Sometimes our airport is already closed, they don't have a place to go inside. 1826 02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:38,660 And so I did the little sketches and said, what will happen if we make the front entrance as a porch 1827 02:36:38,660 --> 02:36:47,740 People can have a safe shelter space and then during the good time they can enjoy the good weather 1828 02:36:47,740 --> 02:36:49,960 In the very time, they have a little shelter. 1829 02:36:50,300 --> 02:36:52,360 So that's the whole reason to trigger this. 1830 02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:56,220 And the important need some help in that regard. 1831 02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:59,340 We have a few form, a missile, all of all, 1832 02:36:59,540 --> 02:37:03,040 already put that on the agenda, is a 30 years old facility. 1833 02:37:03,500 --> 02:37:07,080 All the components that are coming to the life expectancy. 1834 02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:13,080 We are waiting for the wrong way to be extended. 1835 02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:15,680 But in the front yard, I think that's definitely 1836 02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:24,060 can need some help and anything is a 20-3 or in addition to that even board of every penny we 1837 02:37:24,060 --> 02:37:26,780 can use to make it more welcome. 1838 02:37:27,320 --> 02:37:27,820 Thank you so much. 1839 02:37:27,940 --> 02:37:28,420 Thank you. 1840 02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:30,300 Appreciate you being here. 1841 02:37:30,900 --> 02:37:32,600 Yes, could you get a green card for all the folks? 1842 02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:35,880 Is anyone else the wishes to speak to this motion? 1843 02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:41,160 Okay, I see no other public comment, commissioners, any other discussion on a motion? 1844 02:37:42,480 --> 02:37:43,560 Okay, I want to favor say aye. 1845 02:37:44,220 --> 02:37:45,320 Any opposed say nay? 1846 02:37:45,320 --> 02:37:48,540 That passes unanimously. Anything I'll commission your Davis. 1847 02:37:48,920 --> 02:37:49,520 No, sir. 1848 02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:52,120 Okay, commissioners, label anything tonight. 1849 02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:52,980 Yes, sir. 1850 02:37:53,020 --> 02:37:56,540 Okay. I have one item up here. Hopefully this won't. 1851 02:37:56,660 --> 02:37:58,540 Go the way some of these have gone in the past. 1852 02:37:59,800 --> 02:38:03,160 The, I know, though, when we talked about Mr. Oliver, 1853 02:38:03,400 --> 02:38:07,860 people were, you know, concerned we weren't using the right procedure in the future. 1854 02:38:08,840 --> 02:38:12,800 And after that, we never, there was no other method developed in the future. 1855 02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:19,000 future shares, future boards may review the review procedure, and I'm up with the better one. 1856 02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:25,740 But as of right now, I believe our attorneys review as do next month if we go by her anniversary 1857 02:38:25,740 --> 02:38:31,100 date. I don't think technically we have to give her a review, but it seems to me it's the right 1858 02:38:31,100 --> 02:38:38,340 thing to do. So again, if the risk of getting the eye or not of folks, I'll just say what I always 1859 02:38:38,340 --> 02:38:44,920 and that is I've talked to Denise on a regular basis, pardon me for saying Denise, but I can't 1860 02:38:44,920 --> 02:38:50,780 yell at you if I have to use your last name, I have to. So we've had some very spirited conversations. 1861 02:38:51,040 --> 02:38:56,360 We don't always see eye to eye, but I very much valued her professional opinion and I keep reminding 1862 02:38:56,360 --> 02:39:01,840 everybody if it was up to the citizens of Citrus County along and one election should be a county 1863 02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:07,080 judge right now. So I think that speaks highly of her qualifications. It's just those folks on the 1864 02:39:07,080 --> 02:39:12,020 County, you know, they, they had to get into it. So we had said, I would just go 1865 02:39:12,020 --> 02:39:17,440 over to say, and I had discussed her performance with her. I find her the top 1866 02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:21,880 of her profession. I know her colleagues that she deals with speak highly 1867 02:39:21,880 --> 02:39:25,960 over. So I would like to recommend that we put something in her file with our 1868 02:39:25,960 --> 02:39:30,380 highest recommendation and include for her the pay raise that we voted for 1869 02:39:30,380 --> 02:39:32,300 all county staff. I can, sir. 1870 02:39:34,570 --> 02:39:37,690 Anybody not concur. That might be the easy way to go. 1871 02:39:37,690 --> 02:39:40,690 Any comments you want to make? Yes, Commissioner Slaver. 1872 02:39:42,250 --> 02:39:46,890 Evolving with each evaluation, I've tried to follow the rules, so I don't. 1873 02:39:49,890 --> 02:39:53,750 I think that your attorneys are respectful. I think she's knowledgeable. 1874 02:39:54,330 --> 02:39:58,810 I think that she has been responsive to my questions. We don't always agree on things. 1875 02:39:59,070 --> 02:40:02,110 We did not agree on something today, but I had to go with my gut. 1876 02:40:02,110 --> 02:40:09,370 And even though I push back and you are always respectful and I do appreciate that. 1877 02:40:09,570 --> 02:40:10,110 Thank you. 1878 02:40:10,670 --> 02:40:12,230 Yeah, her job is not to be light. 1879 02:40:12,430 --> 02:40:14,090 Her job is to keep us at a jail. 1880 02:40:14,110 --> 02:40:15,250 That's what I always tell her. 1881 02:40:15,450 --> 02:40:16,410 So I'll keep me at a jail. 1882 02:40:17,150 --> 02:40:17,850 Commissioner Clark. 1883 02:40:18,230 --> 02:40:18,790 Thank you. 1884 02:40:19,290 --> 02:40:19,450 Great. 1885 02:40:20,350 --> 02:40:20,630 Commissioner Davis. 1886 02:40:21,010 --> 02:40:22,110 All good. 1887 02:40:22,530 --> 02:40:23,490 Commissioner Conor. 1888 02:40:23,930 --> 02:40:24,170 Yep. 1889 02:40:24,350 --> 02:40:32,090 I would say I agree wholeheartedly and saying no to us is not easy. 1890 02:40:32,090 --> 02:40:48,450 But I do appreciate that she stays engaged in the conversation and sometimes we're able to find the middle ground, other times not so much, but anyway, always very, very respectful and extremely knowledgeable. 1891 02:40:49,330 --> 02:40:50,190 I'm going to agree with that. 1892 02:40:50,350 --> 02:40:57,470 And I just want to continue and this is done steel, you know, victory, or defeat from the hands of victory as we talk about. 1893 02:40:57,470 --> 02:41:02,530 But, you know, all the people that experienced with other county attorneys and some were 1894 02:41:02,530 --> 02:41:03,150 too engaged. 1895 02:41:03,330 --> 02:41:07,690 Some believe they're a county commissioner and they want to run the show and others take 1896 02:41:07,690 --> 02:41:11,730 the position of setting back and saying, hey, if I don't say anything, I can't get in trouble 1897 02:41:11,730 --> 02:41:12,470 and I can. 1898 02:41:12,470 --> 02:41:13,570 My defense can always be. 1899 02:41:13,670 --> 02:41:18,890 Well, nobody asked me, you know, and what I appreciate about Ms. Lynn is that she takes 1900 02:41:18,890 --> 02:41:20,190 her position seriously. 1901 02:41:20,590 --> 02:41:25,670 And even if she knows that my cause or some grief from us, she knows her job is still to tell 1902 02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:29,610 what we may not want to hear, but what she feels compelled to tell us, and I told 1903 02:41:29,610 --> 02:41:33,810 we over and over again, that's where age happens. You tell us what you think you need 1904 02:41:33,810 --> 02:41:38,490 to tell us, and then we sink or swim based on what we do. So I just think it's 1905 02:41:38,490 --> 02:41:44,350 important that we had this discussion, and again, we always do if there's 1906 02:41:44,350 --> 02:41:48,270 something that we have issues with, we get together, we talk about, and I know 1907 02:41:48,270 --> 02:41:53,710 you all do as well. Yes, ma'am. I forgot to say one thing. When I call the 1908 02:41:53,710 --> 02:41:58,770 Minister after hours on a Saturday he never yells at me just one of those things. 1909 02:42:01,190 --> 02:42:05,570 It's always nice to me so yeah like we some good Friday. 1910 02:42:05,610 --> 02:42:06,170 But like right. 1911 02:42:06,430 --> 02:42:07,950 And maybe something you could work on. 1912 02:42:08,490 --> 02:42:09,670 Yes man or good Friday. 1913 02:42:10,470 --> 02:42:10,570 Good. 1914 02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:11,970 If you call me up. 1915 02:42:12,190 --> 02:42:12,910 More I'm a yellow. 1916 02:42:13,150 --> 02:42:13,970 I haven't got no. 1917 02:42:14,170 --> 02:42:14,510 I can. 1918 02:42:15,630 --> 02:42:19,750 Okay so do we need a vote on I guess we probably should have a vote on that. 1919 02:42:19,850 --> 02:42:20,890 That would be my recommendation. 1920 02:42:21,230 --> 02:42:21,970 I believe commissioner. 1921 02:42:22,930 --> 02:42:37,770 The current hands second to that, is there any public comment, seeing none, any further board discussion, on favor say aye, any opposed say nay, that passes unanimous, congratulations, Ms. Lam, are next? 1922 02:42:37,770 --> 02:42:38,950 Do I get the same anything? 1923 02:42:39,270 --> 02:42:42,790 Yeah, I just want to make sure I don't, because case people know right now for this. 1924 02:42:42,970 --> 02:42:43,850 I guess they know that. 1925 02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:47,230 No, no, you're going to get to talk, I just want to say this in case I don't get a chance. 1926 02:42:47,230 --> 02:42:53,410 So the next meeting dates May 10th, 1 o'clock, May 24th, 1 o'clock, June 14th, 1 o'clock 1927 02:42:53,410 --> 02:42:59,490 and a bunch of workshops coming up and we will have one more open to the public, so don't 1928 02:42:59,490 --> 02:43:03,410 everybody pack up and run out the door just yet because it's on the agenda and we're going 1929 02:43:03,410 --> 02:43:04,070 to follow the agenda. 1930 02:43:05,010 --> 02:43:06,130 So, Madam Attorney closures. 1931 02:43:06,610 --> 02:43:12,370 I just want to say I know that I try not to speak on, you know, out of turn, but I'm still 1932 02:43:12,370 --> 02:43:13,830 working on those facial expressions. 1933 02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:19,650 I think you should take some of your rays and put it towards learning a poker face last 1934 02:43:19,650 --> 02:43:21,930 and you know, I think they classes are non-faceted. 1935 02:43:21,930 --> 02:43:27,670 It's been like 25 years that I've been loyering and I still can't catch that. 1936 02:43:27,670 --> 02:43:28,390 Thank you very much. 1937 02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:30,630 We appreciate the hard job you have. 1938 02:43:31,450 --> 02:43:35,390 Okay, we are now, our last segment of open to the public is very willing to hear wishes 1939 02:43:35,390 --> 02:43:39,270 dressed aboard this time, gone once, gone twice, gone three times. 1940 02:43:39,490 --> 02:43:43,610 Okay, we close public input, board, you have done an amazing job today. 1941 02:43:43,610 --> 02:43:49,250 been a long day, a lot of tough contentious issues we got through it and you did it 1942 02:43:49,250 --> 02:43:52,210 admirably so. Good night and we're adjourned. 1943 02:43:52,290 --> 02:43:53,930 Matt, I'm returning. This is for you. 1944 02:43:57,110 --> 02:44:00,130 Oh okay, that's right. That was the one thing that we were waiting for. 1945 02:44:01,470 --> 02:44:02,350 Does that lead us there? 1946 02:44:02,370 --> 02:44:02,930 Yes sir please.