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Good morning, everybody. Today is December 10, 2024. We will go ahead and call our meeting to order for the regular meeting of the Lake County Board of Supervisors. We will begin our meeting with a moment of silence. And last week, it was recognized that we had a loss in the city of Clear Lake, Mr. Bill Perkins. I met Bill Perkins, and probably 2010, I believe it, maybe it was 2009, when he was running for city council. He was very interested in helping the city council.

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city, he was already a planning commissioner and was a planning commissioner for many years.

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Unfortunately, recently he passed due to something I had never heard of, Louie Body Dementia,

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which made him really struggle physically as he walked around.

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There was a good man, he was a real estate agent that served people in the area in South

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Lake, a very kind person.

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I know when I went to his house, he loved the fact that he lived right on the lake.

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was on his dock fishing and that was one of his favorite past times. His wife was a educator,

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or is an educator, sorry, was she's retired educator and so my family interacted with her quite

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often. We knew the family well, great people, big loss, and a whole in our...

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Our community in clear lake and hopefully we can do a moment of silence and hold them in our prayers.

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Thank you, everybody.

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Look into see if we have any extra items that are not appearing on the post of the gender from staff.

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We have no extra items.

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All right, anything from board members?

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All right, seeing none.

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Let's move on to the approval.

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The consent agenda, any items that supervisors wish to pull for further discussion?

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Seeing none, open it up for the public who may wish to pull an item from the consent agenda.

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Please come on up to the microphone.

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If you are in the chamber or raise your hand in Zoom, see no movement in the chamber, no

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hands in Zoom, bring it back to the board for action.

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We have to approve that consent agenda is posted in the item is 5.15.4.

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We have a motion in a second.

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I'll in favor.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries.

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All right.

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We're going to move on to our 902 AM item, public input.

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I know we have public input from the Chamber of Commerce for Lake County.

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Please come on up.

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We'll begin with you.

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Good morning, Board.

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Happy Tuesday and happy holidays.

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That's not too much energy.

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Good morning.

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I'm Greg Foulsum.

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I'm the outgoing interim administrator for the Lake County Chamber of Commerce.

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I just wanted to come here today because I've got two announcements for you.

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First of all, we have kind of a historic moment coming up this Wednesday.

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It's not that historic, but it's kind of historic.

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We are having a joint mixer with the Clear Lake Chamber of Commerce, haven't done that

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in quite a while.

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I want to invite the board in any members of the public to come on out.

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It will be at 530 at the Riviera Hills Restaurant.

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So come on out, that's going to be a lot of fun.

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Second, really big announcement.

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I want to introduce Amanda Martin.

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She'll be taking over as the permanent executive director for the Lake County Chamber.

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We're really happy to have her.

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She is Lake County born and raised.

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She has been an executive for nonprofits here in the county.

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She's worked with a lot on nonprofits.

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She actually was on the board of the Lake County Chamber for a while.

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So we're really excited to have her on with us.

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And if I could just ask you all to have a round of applause for Amanda.

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Thank you, Board. That's all.

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Thank you. Looking forward to serving Lake County with you.

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Welcome to the chamber. Welcome to leadership team.

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And looking forward to our interactions and our partnership.

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Thank you so much.

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Congratulations.

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Any other public comments? Please comment up to the microphone. Raise your hand.

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Seeing none. Let's go ahead and move on. And our next item is pet of the week.

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And we have our animal

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control team.

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That is one happy dog. Good morning. Good morning. I'm officer real.

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My name is Francisco

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to introduce Sven here. He's a middle age guy at only six years old with tons of love to

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get. Sadly Sven has been with us in the early November and unfortunately he is at high risk

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at our shelter since it is way over capacity. Sven is a sweet boy and absolutely loves to take

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his toy with them everywhere he goes. In fact when he was brought in as a stray he was carrying

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a dirty teddy bear with them.

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Sven was found with a microchip in the Netherlands,

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so at some point in his life, he traveled far and wide.

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He's craving a family to call his own,

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and maybe even a toy full of flea teddy bears.

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We can't press enough, how, over.

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Work and pass it to the IR and we would like to see some animals go into loving homes. If you

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or someone you know has space in their heart and home to adopt, please come to our shelter

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at 49 49 help a striving lake port. Our canals are open Monday to Friday 11 to 4. And

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Saturday's 11 to 3. Thank you guys.

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Has has been been tested around children or other animals or cats or anything?

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You have to call and ask our document coordinator for that one.

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At that point, she'll let you know, and if not, then we'll test them with cats or dogs.

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Unfortunately, we don't have children, other children to test them with.

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Take it.

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Thank you, guys.

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Thank you so much. Good luck, Sven.

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Next item 6.3, new and noteworthy at the library.

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Hi, hold on one second.

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Oh, sure.

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We have our videographer raising his hand.

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I'm thinking we might have a tech issue.

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We have lost audio.

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Do you want 10 minutes?

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Let's go ahead and take a 10 minute break.

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We will reconvene.

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Let's try for 915.

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See if we can do it in 7.

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dog just

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seven, almost eight, started to have you.

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Checking one two.

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Checking one two.

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You can go back up for the holidays.

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That's part of that atmosphere on that.

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Check check. Hello, hello.

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It looks like we have resolved the technical difficulties. I'm hearing there might be some issues with accessing the Wi-Fi, but that's not having any impact there.

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So let's go ahead and continue where we left off, which was new and noteworthy from the library. And we have Christopher Veech, our librarian with us. Welcome.

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Thank you. Yeah, I'm Christopher Veech, county librarian. And thank you for giving me just a few minutes to talk about what's new and noteworthy at the library.

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This month, I wanted to highlight a book that's been at the top of the library's whole list,

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since it came out this November, The Grey Wolf by Louise Penny.

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Louise Penny is a best-selling author from Canada,

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with a long running mystery series following Inspector Armand Gamash in the small town of Three Pines.

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And The Grey Wolf is the 19th installment of the series,

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and one of the reasons people love this series is that the small town of Three Pines is a character of its own.

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It has a cozy, welcoming atmosphere, offering a comforting escape, perfectly balanced by the suspense of a gripping mystery.

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Lisa Holstein writes for Library Journal, Penny plays on Reader's Fears, as she launches a new story arc that is completed in this installment but presents a cliffhanger.

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It's a frightening novel of duality, of good versus evil, within it.

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Looks like we've altogether lost.

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He's back.

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Hello. Sorry I'm not sure what happened. I just disappeared. So I was talking about the gray wolf.

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Yes. I'm not sure where I got cut off exactly but you were mentioning the quote from the, I don't know if it was the New York Times or.

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One of the quotes for the reviews.

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Okay, from Library Journal, it's a frightening novel of duality of good versus evil with an allegorical

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tale for today's world as only Penny can write. And the gray wolf was available in print,

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large-type audiobook and ebook through the Library System, and you can request this book

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or other materials through online library catalog requesting items as completely free and items

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sent to your local branch for you to pick up. I'm also excited to introduce the Palace Project

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this week, which is an app that lets patrons access even more e-books and audiobooks from the

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library. Palace combines more of the library's digital collections into one seamless platform.

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The Palace Project app is available for free download on mobile devices and tablets through Apple,

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App Store or Google Play. All you need to do is your library card to start and you can explore

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thousands of titles, including over 3,300, always available audiobooks that are provided through

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the California State Libraries eBooks for all projects. So with those, there's no waiting,

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you can download those audiobooks right away, which is great for a road trip, or anything that you're

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doing that would benefit from an audiobook. So you can find that information about the palace project

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or our library catalog on our website at library.lakecountyc.gov or come visit your local

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library branch in Lakeport, Clear Lake, Middletown, Upper Lake, or on the Buffalo

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Hill.

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Thanks again for listening to what's new and know where they at the library.

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And Mr. Beach, I always appreciate you updating the public and the board on what's going

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on in your library system.

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I want to let you know something that myself and Jessica Pyska, Supervisor Pyska, experienced

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Greg Lucas, I believe is his name, who is the state librarian, gave a keynote speech about

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the importance of libraries, but a very dynamic speaker, an amazing speech that he gave,

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very inspiring, and I'm happy to know that you have higher levels of support, and I know

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That's why you're doing such a good job in your capacity as our library and appreciate the fact that all are working together to make this a better place.

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I'm so glad to hear that. Great Lucas is a wonderful state librarian and I'm always happy to work with them.

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Thank you so much.

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So he did talk about his tour did he come to any of our libraries?

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He came to the upper-like library.

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Excellent.

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When he first became state librarian.

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Very nice. Thank you again.

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All right. Next on our agenda. Consideration of the September 30th, 2024 report of late county pooled investments and we have Mr. Sullivan, our treasure tax collector and Carlos.

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Sorry, I only have the first name.

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Welcome.

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you, Patrick Sullivan, Treasure Tax Collector, I'm here with Carlos Oblidas from

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Chandler Asset Management, and we're going to present

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please turn on the mic, she'd go green, so Patrick Sullivan, Treasure Tax

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Collector, I'm here with Carlos Oblidas from Chandler Asset Management, we are here

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to present the September 30th of report on investments, and at this point I would

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turn it over to Carlos for the presentation,

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so as the materials get pulled up

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supervisor, so it's a great, it's great to see you again, happy holidays, how are you

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ready?

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I'm going to keep it brief because you're probably running behind schedule.

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I think that if we have the presentation up, I think it might be best to, before we jump in,

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just start by saying that the size of your total overall investment program, just as a reminder,

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let's go back to the ABC's, the size as a September 30th was 520.4 million dollars.

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This includes everything. It includes two portfolios that are managed by

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Chandler asset management and a host of cash management investments spread out amongst

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investment pools. Money markets, money market, mutual funds, bank accounts and savings accounts.

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All of it functioning in conjunction with one another to again provide liquidity to pool participants

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when they need it to ensure that the investments are safe and, of course, to generate a competitive return.

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So the total amount is 520 million of that 520 million, 77.6 million as a September 30th is in those liquidity vehicles.

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That's not managed by Chandler, but it is managed directly by your treasury and your treasury tax collector.

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And then Chandler handles two portfolios.

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uh... what the portal that we call a core or longer-term port

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So, I want to focus on that long term core portfolio and if we turn to page 16, I want to show you what it looks like.

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A reminder when we set up the strategy for this portfolio, the main strategy was to maintain the investments between

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primarily one in three years.

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We go a little longer sometimes, a little shorter.

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But sometimes, whether we do that or not,

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the bulk of the investment stay between one in three years,

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they average somewhere around 1.7 to 1.8 years.

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That's important.

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That strategy has been done because we get a level of expectation

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for the volatility of returns.

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When we do that, and we also get a level of expectation

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for the kind of return we're going to get over the long haul.

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So that approach for those 375 million that you see up there, as of September 30th, the yield

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of maturity, or rather the income that you are expected to earn on an annualized basis

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into the future was 3.51, a little bit higher than what you saw the prior quarter, but

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I want you to look at the market yield, which is the right beneath that.

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The market yield on this portfolio is 408.

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It infers a reinvestment rate, which means that we're still picking up some very robust yield.

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So that is also down from the prior three months because interest rates in the markets have come down the Federal Reserve has lowered interest rates.

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That number, that reinvestment that it's inferred was in the tune of about 5.02.

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So you can see that we're reinvesting approximately 100 basis points, 1% lower than we were 3 months ago.

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And that's simply because of what the Fed has been up to in lowering interest rates.

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This portfolio has a very, very high credit quality, and as I stated, it averages about 1.7 years.

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If we go to the next page on page 17, the backbone of this portfolio is the diversification that we've introduced.

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We try to take advantage of every asset class that's available to us under California Government Code.

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Treasury and agency securities, these are obligations from the United States Government and its federal agencies,

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that continues to be the backbone of all of this, because those are considered the most liquid and generally the safest investments.

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But we add yield advantage sectors to the portfolio to add yield over the long run.

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And we diversify those. And that's a dynamic approach.

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So for example, through September 30th, treasuries made up about 33 about a third of the portfolio, 33 percent, almost 34 percent.

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Federal agencies made up a little bit over a quarter of the portfolio, 26 percent.

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high credit quality corporate bonds make up around 24 a little less than a quarter.

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The results of that can be seen on page number 20, over the past 12 months and it's September

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30th, the return on this portfolio.

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So this is a combination of interest income that was earned during the last 12 months and also

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the change in fair value of the investments.

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When you combine them together we get a total return of 6.96%.

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You did really well.

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We haven't seen returns like this in 15 years, very, very good return, versus the benchmark, which we use to gauge the amount of

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of risk that we're taking on in the portfolio.

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And we also use that to measure how we're returns are doing versus the market.

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Well, the return on the benchmark was 6.74.

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So you are performed it.

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Why is that?

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Primarily because of the diversification that you had in the portfolio.

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You have asset classes in there that we're not present in the benchmark, which added to the return.

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Since we've been managing this particular portfolio that goes back to November 1st of 2021, that was like the heart of the pandemic when rates were zero, literally.

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You've been averaging 2.15 per year versus the venture of 148. Over the last two years you've been averaging, and that's per year, 2.15 per year, over the last two years you've been averaging a little bit over 5% per year.

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So you've done all right, the shorter portfolio that's the liquidity portfolio I mentioned that we manage that as an alternative to the state pool that was done on a temporary basis because there was an inversion of the yield curve

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That's a fancy term for saying that there was an anomaly in in the term structure of interest rates where you could earn more with shorter investments than you could with a longer. That's usually not the case. We did this tactically in conjunction with your with your treasure

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We moved, approximately 67, the treasurer moved or approximately 67, actually at one point

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it was closer to $75 million, into the shorter term portfolio.

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We really didn't get much longer than three to six months on average.

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That portfolio focused primarily on U.S. treasuries security, so we kept it very clean with

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the safest and most liquid investment.

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That portfolio, if we turn to page number 25, we can see the return over the last 12 months.

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I think that's been running since April 1st of 2023, so a little bit longer than a year, about a year and a half, you've been averaging an annualized return of 5.4.

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All right, the key things that are driving all of this, I think it's worth saying is that the economy is slowing down.

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The reason the economy is slowing down is because we've had high interest rates, the Federal Reserve raised interest rates and we can actually see that on page number 12, the chart on the right-hand side.

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We saw the Federal Reserve raise the overnight lending rate between banks to basically make it more expensive to bank for banks to borrow from one another, which in turn, the banks make it more expensive for you to borrow from them.

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And it's more expensive to borrow money today than it was three years ago, and they do that

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to basically cut people out of the markets to, when, for example, when you're a homeowner,

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or a home buyer, I should say, you're somebody who wants to invest in a home, and you want to

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borrow money to buy that house. Well, if the mortgage rate is much higher, that might make you

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not be able to afford that mortgage payment. So you probably sit and wait and hold your money.

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And while you sit and wait and hold your money, you're not demanding that house, which hopefully brings the price down.

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And that's what they were trying to do.

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They were trying to bring overall prices down.

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That's inflation.

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There's a chart on that, which I do want to highlight.

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That can be found on page number six.

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And you can see the consumer price index in June of summer.

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June of 2022 reached a 40 year high.

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Over 9% they wanted to bring that back down.

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And that's what they've done, they've been fairly successful.

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They did that by raising interest rates.

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And now that we're at a point where inflation is lower,

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and the Federal Reserve has maintained interest rates high,

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the economy has slowed down as a result of that.

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And now they're doing the opposite.

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Now they're trying to stimulate the economy

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to make sure that they give enough stimulus

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to allow the economy to pick back up,

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but not to bottom out.

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They don't want it to bottom out and maybe go into a contraction.

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So as a result now, they've reversed.

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If we go back to that chart on page number 12 on the right-hand side,

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if you just look at the far right-hand side,

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you see the height, it's just when they raised rates.

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It looks like a hockey stick and then they stayed high for a while,

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and now you see it starting to come down.

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And that's what they've done.

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They met in September.

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They lowered that overnight lending rate between banks by half a percent,

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50 basis points.

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They met again November 7th and lowered that rate once again by 25 basis points,

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quarter point, they will be meeting on September 17th or December 17th and 18th in about

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a week, and it is expected, though not guaranteed, that they may lower rates yet again.

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And as we enter into 2025, they are on an easing mode, meaning that they're more want to

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lower rates than to raise them, simply because they want to make sure that the economy doesn't

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bottom out. So what does it mean for you? It means that for you, your reinvestments, when

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they raise rates, hit some really high yields, which have benefited you, which have benefited

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the participants of the pool, your appointments have been the highest you've seen in many

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many years, you won't see them as high as they've been. You hit some real high highs, you

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won't see those coming into next year, although you should still see robust yields, which

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should still be a significant revenue source

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for the county and the pool participants.

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Through this time, we'll continue to navigate,

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we'll continue to coordinate with the Treasure Tax Collector,

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that component that the Treasure Tax Collector manages directly.

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That was done tactically to capture some very high yield

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in that anomaly that I talked about.

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That's been very successful for the pool.

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Very, very successful.

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The utility of that is now waning.

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And like I said, we continue to coordinate with the Treasure Tax

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to make sure that when that inflection point comes,

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that we've already shifted in a new tactic

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to be able to maintain safety liquidity and return.

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With that, I'll take any questions.

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You may have.

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You might have.

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So then we won't see as many gains,

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but we will see a leveling off.

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We're not anticipating any drops.

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Just to be clear.

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Correct. Let me take a real technical.

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So your return comes from two sources.

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It comes from the interesting come that you earn,

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a bond is alone and you're lending money out to these entities

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when you buy a treasury bond, you're lending to Uncle Sam.

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Uncle Sam pays you interest.

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So interest is part of your return.

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The promise of that return plus your return

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of your principle, because it's alone, you get your money back.

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the value of that stream of cash coming back to you. It has a something called a

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President value, and that value goes up and down in the market. So that's the other part of your return. When I think of the word gain, I think of that change in fair value. But I think what you're referring to is the net amount that we're going to end up with. It's not going to bottom out. No, that's not what we're seeing. We think it might be a little lower than what you have this year, but it's still going to be robust.

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I'm just talking about the graph that we all love. And what that will look like, maybe next year in the year after.

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I think it'll look, I think it'll look competitive.

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Any other comments or questions?

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Mr. Sullivan, did you want to add something before?

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Yeah, if you don't mind, I can run through the two remaining charts, and then we can circle back.

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So this is the quarterly earnings for the pool.

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Since we began the Comprehensive Investment Program.

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So, as you can see, we're continuing to, you know, have these gains each quarter.

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This last quarter, and there may have been error in the memo.

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It was the quarter ending September 30th, Q1, that was 5.3 million in returns.

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So, yeah, I think what we're, what we're seeing, and I think what Carlos was talking about is

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want to make it clear, is that the income at this point, as we have bonds and other instruments

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continue to mature. We're no longer picking up the huge gains in returns that we were. Each time

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there's maturity we were investing at, like you just went out the 5% level or higher. In some

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cases, our pools have dropped, our return on our money market has dropped. So at least on the

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treasury side and the more liquid side, those are starting to really level out or in some

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as decreased as our other maturedies come do.

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Some of them, those older notes that we hold

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at those lower rates, they are being reinvested at a higher rate.

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But, you know, last year they would have been reinvested at 5% now.

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They're going to be reinvested more in that for three and a half range.

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So we're basically the gains we're picking up on these notes.

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Some of them are still on the one, the two percent range, or even less.

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So it's going to go up, but it's no longer going to go up even on those in the way that

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saw in this last year. So if anything, if there's any more gains to be had, it's going to be pretty

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pretty slim. Otherwise, I mean, at least from the perspective that I'm seeing, I think by the end of

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next year, if rates don't change, we're really going to have leveled off. Okay.

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So there's this chart, and then also just for your awareness, I think it's too much to really go through here,

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but this is a historical apportionment data that your board is requested in the past.

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This also goes back to 2021, this shows the per-fun breakdown of how the investment earnings for the county from the Treasury pool were apportioned.

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So just if you look at the first one for example, general fund, so it was a 288,000 and 2021 for 2024, it's 3.4 million.

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If you go to the final page, you'll see that total breakdown of interest earned back to 21 and you can see the trends and changes there.

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And it may just be of some value for what some of the questions your board had to understand how these investment earnings impact not just the county, but also the school districts fire districts and all of our partners throughout the county.

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So if there are any questions, I'm happy to take them.

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I see no questions or comments. I appreciate you providing the level of detail.

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And hopefully now it's a simple report to run, so it's not something they have to do from scratch as you had to in the original time that you brought that to us, but seeing that change and making it very public as to all the different agencies and what they're benefiting from this.

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seeing us start from about $86, $90,000 per quarter going all the way up to $5.35.4.

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We're looking at 60 times the level of investment return that we were getting on a quarterly basis.

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That's pretty awesome.

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I don't know what other words to use other than it's really fantastic.

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I know that we also just in our consent agenda just approved no changes to the policy

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And it sounds to me based on the words that you expressed that our policy is working for us better than it may be working for others as we're looking at kind of the state average and we're looking at or what you're

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Forget what the term was that you use. I don't have a

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But basically like you're standard of what you expected for the percentage gain and we seem to be above that and part of that could be what's built into the policy because we have

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certain limitations on where we can invest and where we can't invest so I don't have questions necessarily about the policy because it seems to be working very well for us

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But is there a point in your duties where you come to us saying something's wrong with your policy?

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Others are doing 5%, you seem to be dropping down to 2%, if we changed it and were able to invest

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into these specific criteria of investments, we would do a whole lot better for you rather than

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waiting on an annual basis. Just kind of wondering what the future might look like because everything's

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changing at all times, right?

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Yes, second answer to that question.

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The policy, as you stated, is robust, and when we launched this

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investment program, there were a lot of, it was a very collaborative

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approach to make it robust, if you remember, and there was quite

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a bit of education on the investment side to understand what we were

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adding to the policy, I would tell you that the policy is robust

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because for two, for three reasons. Number one, because it expanded the asset types that you're

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allowed to purchase that are allowed by California government code. Prior policies did not do that.

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So that was one major shift which put you in this territory. You're not just earning more money

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because of that. You also earn higher money. We can't take all the credit. Interest rates are much

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higher today than they were when we started. But the policy allowed you to capture those in a

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the second reason the policies robust is because it follows code.

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It was a concerted effort to make sure that whatever parameters we put in there

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they did not violate California government code.

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Code severely restricts what you're able to do.

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The third reason your policies robust is because it includes best practices

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that we've included in there based on the different industry groups that are out there

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our 36 years of experience that we've had managing money,

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all the things that we've seen.

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They're all in there, so they're designed to kind of keep you safe

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to protect you because there's a lot that you can do that can really

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do damage to the portfolio.

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Your question was, what stage did we come back and say

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do we change the policy?

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I would say that the policy at this stage,

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the changes that would come about wouldn't necessarily

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catapult you into another new level of earnings.

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That's already been done.

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And at this stage, the changes are more if we're observing trends in best practices that shift

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that we think are good to adopt, or if there's a change in California government code.

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And indeed, we communicate pretty regularly on changes that are coming.

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We just had one for this year, Senate Bill A2 just did a reclassification of agency, federal

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agency, mortgage back securities, committed to federal agencies.

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It was a gray area of California government code, code, clarified that.

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the good news is that you are already interpreting it that way in your portfolio, no change

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needed.

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But those are the types of changes that would anticipate, none that would maybe catapult

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or change the earnings profile of what you're doing.

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And I appreciate where we've started and I don't anticipate we will ever go back to the 80

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or 90 with this level of policy.

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I think that investment is always going to be a bit of a roller coaster ride, but I don't

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anticipate to drop in the same way for more.

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we started. I'm looking forward to looking at the overall trends after years of continuing

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to follow the same policy. So thank you so much. I'll good news. Every time you show

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up, there seems to be good news. So let's try to keep that trend going.

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We'll keep working on that.

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Supervisor Green?

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Yeah. Probably my last investment pool report. And so I'm going up the board as a supervisor

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assignment and I just want to take this opportunity. Thank you. I don't think I'm any smarter

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after listening to your reports, but I feel smarter. And that's the important part, I think.

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I mean, I almost like, do you have a podcast? I want to follow you. So, I'm not going to follow

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the board meetings of verbatim after January, but I appreciate so much the granular detail you

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bring to this, but also the enthusiasm and I think you've been a great asset along with our treasure

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tax collector in shepherding us toward financial stability and growth for us and our partners,

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but that's just it.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate everything you're doing.

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Thank you so much.

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It's been a little bit of a delay to work.

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All right.

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Let's go ahead and open up for any public comments regarding this item.

436
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,180
Please come up to the microphone, raise your hand, and zoom.

437
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,220
Michael Wagner.

438
00:49:36,020 --> 00:49:37,280
Thank you, everybody, for being here today.

439
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:44,000
I actually just had a question, so I could maybe understand, make sure I totally

440
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,760
understand what we're looking at.

441
00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:52,920
The two portfolios that are handled by Chandler, you guys had some graphs of that from

442
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,000
June to September, is that right?

443
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,700
You know, we were flipping through those things so fast, I could hardly keep track of it.

444
00:49:59,820 --> 00:49:59,980
Would you...

445
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:16,050
What was the question that you had for this? I was just trying to take a look at what the between June to September, what our changes were. Is that okay?

446
00:50:16,330 --> 00:50:26,010
And on our website, the attachments are all there if you just wanted to review, you have access to that.

447
00:50:26,010 --> 00:50:37,410
Okay, you guys had a chart that showed from June to September and it had the full amounts, you know, the starting and ending amounts.

448
00:50:37,550 --> 00:50:41,410
Try and just trying to figure out what your question is regarding those amounts.

449
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:45,010
I was just trying to see if I'm following correctly.

450
00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:46,350
I'm not sure if I have a question.

451
00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:53,010
I just wanted to see what the beginning and June to write now or step timbers amounts were in the two portfolios.

452
00:50:54,330 --> 00:50:54,430
Okay.

453
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:59,450
we're going through. And like I said, I just don't want you to control what staff is going

454
00:50:59,450 --> 00:51:05,390
to show on the screen when it's available to you to look at. And if you have further

455
00:51:05,390 --> 00:51:10,370
questions, because this is not a, I'm not trying to control.

456
00:51:10,750 --> 00:51:15,330
No, but you're asking to bring up something. But if you don't have a question, it's available.

457
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:21,450
You can look at it. If you have a question, let's get the question. And so my question

458
00:51:21,450 --> 00:51:29,450
until it went off into a blitter and right there was if I could see the full amounts of what

459
00:51:30,890 --> 00:51:36,170
I'd started out to what it is now. It just looks like from June to September

460
00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:40,750
there was this substantial loss and I was wondering if he would be willing to help us understand

461
00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:44,210
what was going on in the markets that would affect that. Thank you for the question.

462
00:51:45,850 --> 00:51:49,030
So what I think what you're referring to is the total market value at the bottom where

463
00:51:50,330 --> 00:52:03,730
I think what you're referring to is the total market value at the bottom, which is the market value of the portfolio, including a crude interest, which is interest that you've earned to that point, but not yet received, it's attributed to you, but it just hasn't hit your account yet.

464
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:06,150
That is not a loss.

465
00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:16,410
This program also, the change in value there is due to a withdrawal that we had.

466
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:20,090
There's dynamic withdrawals that happen periodically out of this portfolio.

467
00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:28,230
So there's not only is the portfolio balance moving around because of an increase in value from investment activity,

468
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:31,450
but there's also money being pulled out to pay for things.

469
00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:37,130
Participants sometimes it's a pool, so there's more people in the county than the county in the pool

470
00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:43,550
So they're participants, which have liquidity needs that they'll have to pull money out of that pool to make payments for their obligations

471
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:46,570
Right now the opposite is happening

472
00:52:47,650 --> 00:52:50,650
We have a run up to to December 10th

473
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:55,350
Which is today where people are paying their property taxes?

474
00:52:55,350 --> 00:53:00,470
So, there's a lot of money coming in, and that money may flow into any number of these places.

475
00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:05,070
Typically, it'll flow to the liquidity vehicles that I spoke about, that the Treasury manages directly.

476
00:53:05,550 --> 00:53:08,070
But some of that may get shifted to the longer portfolios.

477
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:14,510
The intent of the portfolios is that you have money that generally isn't needed, but sometimes it is needed.

478
00:53:15,490 --> 00:53:17,970
And the county will pull money out of there.

479
00:53:18,190 --> 00:53:19,770
So, that wasn't an actual loss.

480
00:53:19,770 --> 00:53:23,790
The portfolio actually grew for that three-month period.

481
00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:28,630
The portfolio actually grew for that three-month period,

482
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:31,530
2.77 percent from investment activity.

483
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:34,310
There was just a shift because people pulled money out.

484
00:53:37,870 --> 00:53:42,210
If you want to meet with Mr. Sullivan to continue the question,

485
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:46,870
at this point we're done with the conversation.

486
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:52,610
If you want to go back and forth, please make sure to talk with Mr. Sullivan and Carlos may be around as well.

487
00:53:54,530 --> 00:53:55,990
Any other comments or questions?

488
00:53:59,260 --> 00:54:07,120
All right, seeing none, and I'm trying to stay on time for some of our other items that we're already behind on, especially with some of the issues that we've had to deal with.

489
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,580
I'll bring it back to the board. If there's nothing further, thank you very much for your time. Thank you for the good news.

490
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,620
Let's, let's, let's move to accept.

491
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,260
Yes.

492
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:24,760
We have a motion and a second to approve the report, all in favor.

493
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:25,680
Aye.

494
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:26,700
Any opposed?

495
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,040
Motion carries.

496
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:28,920
Thank you very much.

497
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:29,840
Thank you.

498
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,040
Next item 6.5 or 915 AM.

499
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,320
Item consideration of the late county fire protection district community wildfire protection plan.

500
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,520
And so I'm going to ask this locksmith.

501
00:54:41,540 --> 00:54:42,520
Please come up.

502
00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:43,900
It has my name on there.

503
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:47,420
We both received an email from Chief Cepeta,

504
00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:54,500
wanted to make sure that we had this on our agenda to review and support and adding it to the overall

505
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:59,960
Lake County Community Wildfire Protection Plan. And so I want to...

506
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,980
Introduce, Terry Logson, and Chiefs of Peta, and let you take the lead.

507
00:55:04,340 --> 00:55:10,260
Great, thank you so much. As you know, with the passage of the Healthy Forest Restoration Act in 2003,

508
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,100
the U.S. Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management were given incentives to consider

509
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:21,080
the priorities of local communities as they develop and implement forest management and hazardous

510
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:27,180
fuel reduction projects. Projects and priorities are then outlined in local wildfire protection

511
00:55:27,180 --> 00:55:29,640
plans or CWP's.

512
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:35,140
These are a means of bringing local solutions to wild land fire management, and in Lake County

513
00:55:35,140 --> 00:55:42,120
with about 645 square miles of government-owned land, and much of it is forested, having

514
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:49,820
CWP's for these projects are vital, and in developing and implementing CWP's communities

515
00:55:49,820 --> 00:55:56,120
assume leadership roles in reducing wildfire risk on federal and non-federal land, but

516
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,980
particularly in what is called the wooey or the Wildland Urban Interface.

517
00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:05,360
And in Lake County, that's where most populations are centered.

518
00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:14,860
The wooey designation map in the county CWP was approved by the Lake County Fire Chief's Association in April of this year.

519
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:22,960
And so having an approved and adopted CWP allows agencies and organizations to apply for funding opportunities

520
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:31,500
That are outlined in the CWPP, for instance, because the county has a CWPP adopted and approved,

521
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:38,060
it allowed clerk the Clear Lake Environmental Research Center and Tara, the Tribal Eco Restoration Alliance

522
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:43,680
through the Lake County Resource Conservation District, to receive funds to complete projects

523
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:52,060
in the CWPP, bringing over $20 million of federal funding to Lake County, employing Lake County contractors and people.

524
00:56:52,060 --> 00:57:00,020
And so, while the county of Lake hasn't approved CWP, this doesn't preclude smaller hyper-local

525
00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:05,280
communities and smaller divisions of the county to create their own, which is more reflective

526
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,820
of their own smaller community.

527
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:15,100
This is why the Lake County Fire Protection District draft CWP is before you today for approval

528
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:15,680
and adoption.

529
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:21,780
In the future, other smaller divisions of the county may come before your board, for instance

530
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:27,420
both the Conocti Firesafe Council, and the Seagler Springs Community Re-Development Association

531
00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:31,400
are also in process of creating hyperlocal CWP.

532
00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:37,700
Seagler Springs Community Re-Development Association actually received grant funding to

533
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:42,720
create their own for the Cobb area because the county had the CWP in place.

534
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:49,540
And so, in discussion with agencies and organizations such as the Lake County Fire Protection District,

535
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:58,520
creating these local CWPs, they agreed to have them become new appendices in the county

536
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,780
wildfire protection plan.

537
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,460
And so, therefore, in addition to considering approval of the Lake County Fire Protection District

538
00:58:06,460 --> 00:58:12,980
CWP, your board is also asked to consider accepting it as an appendix to the county plan.

539
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,320
Thank you.

540
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:15,020
Chiefs of Peta?

541
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:16,860
Hi.

542
00:58:17,540 --> 00:58:17,940
Chiefs of Peta.

543
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:23,100
So looking at the county CWP, it was encouraged for us to have kind of our own to

544
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,940
delve down into the inner working parts.

545
00:58:25,580 --> 00:58:32,180
Then since 2012, my district is endured a great deal of wildfires, property loss,

546
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,440
and even a fatality related to one of those.

547
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:42,260
So, we carved ours out and then identify specific geographical locations or based on

548
00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:47,160
life safety, evacuation, property, critical infrastructure and environmental impact.

549
00:58:47,660 --> 00:58:53,060
And then what my fire marsh lid had done is identify the scope of work, so it can give

550
00:58:53,060 --> 00:58:56,840
really anybody that is going to be doing that job specific, so what's going to be done,

551
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,680
but it also gives you an end result.

552
00:58:59,260 --> 00:59:04,660
So what we hope to do is to take some of the dynamic programming out there, we want to do a couple

553
00:59:04,660 --> 00:59:09,100
a manually and see if we come up with the same results of the dynamic computer programming that

554
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:09,320
does.

555
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:10,980
So I appreciate your support.

556
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,380
There's a lot of work to be done.

557
00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:17,380
We did have a kickoff meeting for potential fire safe counsel in the lower-like, lower-like

558
00:59:17,380 --> 00:59:17,800
area.

559
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,560
Clark has already done a tremendous amount of work on projects in that CWPP before we even

560
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,720
move forward with our own.

561
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,980
And that's that point-like view corridor, Anderson Road, Panoramic, Sunrise Shore.

562
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:32,740
So I appreciate the support from you folks.

563
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,600
Thank you.

564
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,700
Thank you very much. Any comments or questions?

565
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:38,480
Supervisor Green?

566
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,180
Yeah, it's just super quick on the recommended action.

567
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,540
So this is a district CDWPP, but we're here today

568
00:59:46,540 --> 00:59:48,940
or requesting approval by this board.

569
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,760
So that confused me just a little bit.

570
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:56,120
I assume your district can approve its own plans.

571
00:59:56,820 --> 00:59:59,960
Action to make this plan an appendix of our county plan.

572
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,880
And that may require some action, but can you just explain the authority, why this is a

573
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,440
recommend action that includes approval by this board of the plan that this district created?

574
01:00:11,980 --> 01:00:15,900
Certainly, that's a great question. We actually got clarification from the United States

575
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:25,520
fourth service, who is the organization with the authority to administer CWPPs that have local

576
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,920
communities do it. And so Lake County Fire Protection District is both in the county of Lake

577
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,820
and the city of Clear Lake. So both of those jurisdictions will have to approve the plan.

578
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:46,340
And I think it allows others to have access to the CWPP to be able to help and get funding to do

579
01:00:46,340 --> 01:00:52,060
the work within the CWPP. And I think one of the first three items within those first three

580
01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:55,560
items is the working to create a fire-safe council.

581
01:00:56,460 --> 01:00:59,660
So, as you stated, things are already moving forward to check

582
01:00:59,660 --> 01:01:03,780
some of those items off, and there are some very important areas

583
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:09,100
within the CWPP projects scope that we know are continuously

584
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:13,560
being threatened by wildfires, absolutely within the wooey,

585
01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:14,680
and all sorts of things.

586
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:19,140
So, this is needed so that we can be up to date and looking

587
01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:20,800
forward to getting us approved.

588
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,740
And if there's nothing further, let's open it up for public comment.

589
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,040
Anyone wish to speak on this item?

590
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,520
Let's see, no movement in the chamber, no hands in the Zoom room, bringing it back

591
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,560
to the board for action.

592
01:01:34,690 --> 01:01:38,710
We have to approve the Lake County Fire Protection District's community wildfire protection

593
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:40,710
plan and authorize the charity sign.

594
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:46,160
Second, we have a motion in a second.

595
01:01:46,420 --> 01:01:46,840
All in favor?

596
01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:47,660
Aye.

597
01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:48,500
Any opposed?

598
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:49,780
Motion carries.

599
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,100
Part B.

600
01:01:51,820 --> 01:01:54,940
Move to accept the Lake County Fire Protection District's

601
01:01:54,940 --> 01:02:01,300
community wildfire prevention plan as an appendix of the Lake County community wildfire protection plan.

602
01:02:01,540 --> 01:02:02,000
It's an authorized.

603
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:02,660
No.

604
01:02:02,900 --> 01:02:03,240
Sorry.

605
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,980
We don't need to authorize any signatures on this one.

606
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:06,680
I already signed.

607
01:02:06,860 --> 01:02:08,220
Thank you.

608
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:08,620
Second.

609
01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:09,560
We have a motion.

610
01:02:09,740 --> 01:02:10,260
And a second.

611
01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:11,120
All in favor.

612
01:02:11,580 --> 01:02:11,740
Aye.

613
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,700
Any opposed?

614
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:13,800
Motion carries.

615
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,120
Thank you for bringing this to us.

616
01:02:15,260 --> 01:02:17,720
And I want to say Ms. Lxton, you're the one who put this on the agenda.

617
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,560
Has my name on?

618
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,540
I want to make sure and say thank you very much for helping out.

619
01:02:22,060 --> 01:02:22,440
Thank you.

620
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:22,980
Appreciate it.

621
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:23,680
Okay.

622
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:37,280
We are going to move on to our 930 AM item presentation of the 2023 crop and livestock

623
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:45,900
reports. And we have our ad commissioner. Commissioner Van der Waugh. Good morning.

624
01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:51,430
I was

625
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:54,570
get excited about the crop report. And this is a good one this year.

626
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:51,040
Thank you. Good morning, Chairman Savati in board.

627
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,520
Thank you.

628
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Good morning, Chairman Savati in board.

629
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,320
Thank you for your time this morning.

630
01:03:55,460 --> 01:03:58,820
I'm going to present to you the 2023 Crop and live stock report.

631
01:04:00,020 --> 01:04:02,140
Before I get started this morning, I would really like to

632
01:04:02,140 --> 01:04:06,000
think my staff who helps compile the information and gather it.

633
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,460
Make all the phone calls and do all the survey requests and all that other

634
01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:16,900
as well as all the producers who contributed their information to make this report a success.

635
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,800
So what is the purpose of this report? Why do we do this every year?

636
01:04:24,020 --> 01:04:27,400
This report is mandated by the California Food and Agricultural Code,

637
01:04:27,740 --> 01:04:30,160
so the report is used for a variety of purposes,

638
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,260
including ranchers and growers for planning future production,

639
01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:36,620
suppliers for allocating resources,

640
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:45,040
is financial institutions, research and education agencies, regulatory agencies, transportation

641
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:51,740
agencies for fuel and other needs, estimating labor needs, and the report can also be used

642
01:04:51,740 --> 01:04:57,620
by excuse me, the report can also be used for animal related health and disease programs.

643
01:04:58,460 --> 01:04:59,980
So, the estimated gross,

644
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:13,420
The production value for 2023 was approximately 140 million. So this is a 31% increase from 2022 and is also a new record for the county. So this surpasses the previous record set in 2017.

645
01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:26,680
So something I started last year and kind of continued with the trend this year, taking a look back at 50 years ago, what did the landscape of agriculture look like in Lake County?

646
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:34,920
So you can kind of see some of our top commodities there, the acreage with the exception of cattle and calves, which is represented by the number of head.

647
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:43,280
So pairs we had about 7,000 acres, wine grapes were just getting started in the county at 472 acres.

648
01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:49,940
We had a large walnut production at 9,000 acres, our field and seed crops.

649
01:05:49,940 --> 01:06:01,360
So, that would be the hay pasture other types of crops like that at 186,000 acres and close to 8,000 head of cattle.

650
01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:10,820
So, fast forward to 2023. You can see there's a decrease in our per acreage.

651
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:17,200
Wine grapes has increased significantly. We also see a decrease in our walnuts.

652
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:22,080
are field and seed crops are about halved and are cattle and calves.

653
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,860
The number of head have also dropped significantly.

654
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:31,720
And this is just like a nice little comparison chart.

655
01:06:32,980 --> 01:06:36,280
With 1973, represented, oh my goodness.

656
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:40,620
Not 1793, 1973.

657
01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:43,240
Yes, correction there.

658
01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:47,180
I've represented in the blue and 2023 represented in the orange.

659
01:06:47,180 --> 01:06:50,180
So, just kind of shows the shift in how things have gone.

660
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:56,880
And then 20-year gross value comparison.

661
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:59,360
So, you kind of see the EBS and flows.

662
01:06:59,660 --> 01:07:02,260
This crops fluctuate, markets fluctuate.

663
01:07:02,620 --> 01:07:05,820
And again, in 2023, that's under record.

664
01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:09,700
The previous record was 2017, which is...

665
01:07:10,340 --> 01:07:11,720
What does that salmon colored?

666
01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:15,340
At about 120, something million.

667
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,280
Correct. Yeah.

668
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,940
This is another chart, gross values of our different commodities.

669
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:30,000
you can kind of see the shift from 2023 and blue and compare to 2022 and orange.

670
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:39,100
So you can see the increases in livestock and poultry as well as fruit and nuts.

671
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:52,220
So our top five commodities for 2023. So our wine grapes remain number one. I'm not sure

672
01:07:52,220 --> 01:07:55,320
how many number of years in a row, but pretty consistent.

673
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,160
Pairs at number two, cattle and calves.

674
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,220
This shifted from last year from being number four,

675
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:07,000
to number three, and yeah, number three, and 2023.

676
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:10,580
Field and seed crops move down to number four

677
01:08:10,580 --> 01:08:14,540
in our miscellaneous livestock remains at number five.

678
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:21,810
So cannabis production, this is the second year

679
01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:24,490
that the cannabis is included in the crop report.

680
01:08:26,090 --> 01:08:34,110
So I just have, I think 2022 is reported in square footage and then there was a request to convert that into acres, so that's what we did.

681
01:08:34,590 --> 01:08:49,110
So I do not have values associated with this. We just did not get enough survey responses to represent the industry as a whole, so we will continue to reach out to producers to see if we can get that information to hopefully someday include the values in the crop report.

682
01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:54,270
Is there any questions?

683
01:08:55,630 --> 01:08:56,830
Supervisor Pyska.

684
01:08:59,570 --> 01:09:07,750
So when I apologize I did not ask this of you this week but we did have a conversation six months or less winter about it.

685
01:09:07,770 --> 01:09:13,970
In the past I was at 2018 that or 2019 there was a comprehensive economic.

686
01:09:15,810 --> 01:09:24,890
17 there was, 17, okay, on agriculture for our county and we had to have that conversation

687
01:09:24,890 --> 01:09:30,090
that maybe we should update that and take a new look at that and so much has changed.

688
01:09:30,390 --> 01:09:34,370
So I don't know how the rest of the board feels about that or even how much work is involved

689
01:09:34,370 --> 01:09:39,370
with that but that is something that I would like to see again updated so that we can have

690
01:09:39,370 --> 01:09:40,710
that for our awareness.

691
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:44,430
Sure, that's actually something I would like to see if they did also.

692
01:09:45,310 --> 01:09:45,650
Yes.

693
01:09:47,410 --> 01:09:55,270
And then we also know that wine grape acreage is decreasing and it's already begun here.

694
01:09:55,490 --> 01:09:57,010
It's starting, it's statewide.

695
01:09:57,690 --> 01:09:59,890
We do know that there's reductions here.

696
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,300
This year, and probably likely more coming to, and it's just the realities of the industry.

697
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,900
So I don't know if you have anything to add about that either.

698
01:10:10,820 --> 01:10:16,040
Not much. I do know we have some vineyards here who are removing acreage, so that will be reflected.

699
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:23,960
So I think that some of them have already started pulling acres. So we're still in 2024 right now, so that will be reflected in the 24 crop report.

700
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:29,760
So, I think the values and the trends are going to look a little bit different for 24.

701
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:31,880
Okay, thanks.

702
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:38,920
And I would expect that report would be most likely January of 26 or December of 25,

703
01:10:39,020 --> 01:10:41,140
something like that.

704
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,720
For the 2024?

705
01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:43,860
Yeah.

706
01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:45,260
Like a year from now basically.

707
01:10:45,980 --> 01:10:46,180
Yeah.

708
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,320
I mean, the goal of the goal is to get it out sooner.

709
01:10:50,260 --> 01:10:53,860
Some of it, it's like we're waiting for industry reports to come out and those usually come out in June.

710
01:10:53,860 --> 01:11:00,920
So, yeah, you could expect it late summer, early fall, maybe December next year.

711
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,400
I just remember when I started that I think it was in a January that we received the report.

712
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:11,400
As long as the report keeps coming, we keep getting updated to know how it is doing.

713
01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:13,780
That's what's important here.

714
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:15,980
Quick question.

715
01:11:15,980 --> 01:11:22,900
It's obvious to me that the cannabis numbers that you're getting are from use permits.

716
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,320
Do we know that they're active or is it just what's currently approved?

717
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:34,640
So, those are, so the cannabis figures, that's not, so there's like two different sets of data, right?

718
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:43,740
The CDD has the permitted approved acres and then the tax collectors office has the acreage of what was actually grown.

719
01:11:43,740 --> 01:11:47,060
So that was from the tax collectors office of what was actually grown.

720
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:50,360
Okay, and so that's a very specific thing.

721
01:11:50,800 --> 01:12:00,570
The numbers that you're getting for everything else, is it based on agricultural employee ideas?

722
01:12:00,830 --> 01:12:03,190
It based on, like how do you get those numbers?

723
01:12:03,330 --> 01:12:07,710
How do you know that you're encompassing everybody that's doing agricultural work?

724
01:12:08,130 --> 01:12:12,230
What's the criteria that needs to be met in order for those numbers to count?

725
01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:20,030
So, even for the cannabis, you have pesticide ID, you have other type of ID, like how do you identify

726
01:12:21,370 --> 01:12:27,730
all the variations of agriculture that's happening here? Sure. Sure. So some of it, there's industry reports.

727
01:12:28,510 --> 01:12:37,750
So like timber, there's like a report that's issued by the state, you know, packing facilities, processing sheds, they have information on how much was produced for the county.

728
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:45,490
So we use that information we also reach out to some of our smaller producers, our livestock producers,

729
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:54,590
individually making phone calls, sending out surveys, 100% data return is not always going to happen.

730
01:12:55,270 --> 01:13:00,630
So we do the best that we can with the information that we have.

731
01:13:00,630 --> 01:13:07,990
So we always encourage people to, you know, please provide your numbers when the information

732
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:09,850
they provide to us is confidential.

733
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:14,890
So and as you can see with the report, there's nothing in the report that identifies any

734
01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:19,770
single producer, so it's just a comprehensive data set.

735
01:13:20,890 --> 01:13:27,610
And I know that you're involved with our food policy council group and just looking at our vegetable

736
01:13:27,610 --> 01:13:34,570
crops going down to, I think it's at three acres in 2023. If I'm correct, granted that doesn't

737
01:13:34,570 --> 01:13:43,530
include things like melons or other types of crops that fall under miscellaneous. So there's a

738
01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:49,530
real number to figure out somewhere in there, but there's still a reduction and while I value the

739
01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:55,630
idea of agriculture and the variety of things that can happen within agriculture and it doesn't

740
01:13:55,630 --> 01:14:01,590
seem historically that we've had food production at a great amount other than well nuts or

741
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:07,230
pairs or the staple crops that we have here, but it definitely gives me motivation to keep

742
01:14:07,230 --> 01:14:07,610
working.

743
01:14:07,810 --> 01:14:13,030
And I know that we are planning to get our strategic plan completed very soon and bring that

744
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:17,670
back to the Board of Supervisors to let the Board know what is the plan with the Food Policy

745
01:14:17,670 --> 01:14:18,110
Council.

746
01:14:18,150 --> 01:14:22,610
And I appreciate your participation in that, but seeing those numbers, there's so many

747
01:14:22,610 --> 01:14:24,650
positive, and then I get to that one and I'm like,

748
01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:28,130
or down to three, yeah, we'll work on that.

749
01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:29,650
So thank you very much.

750
01:14:29,890 --> 01:14:31,270
Any other comments or questions?

751
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:33,470
Let's open it up for a public comment.

752
01:14:33,530 --> 01:14:36,170
Anyone wish to speak on the crop report?

753
01:14:37,710 --> 01:14:38,910
Comment up to the microphone.

754
01:14:39,070 --> 01:14:41,070
Raise your hand in the Zoom room.

755
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:42,590
Hello, Helen Owen.

756
01:14:43,390 --> 01:14:45,470
I'm curious, you have cattle and calves,

757
01:14:45,670 --> 01:14:48,070
but I didn't notice any other livestock or poultry.

758
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:50,830
So is there statistics on that?

759
01:14:50,830 --> 01:14:57,110
and then we have a robust sheep industry here in the county and goats so just other

760
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:57,570
livestock.

761
01:14:58,050 --> 01:14:59,770
So we do under the livestock.

762
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:19,160
Reduction category of the crop report. We have what's called miscellaneous livestock. So that encompasses sheep, goats, hogs. Because there's kind of a limited number of producers to separate those out into their own categories would kind of identify those producers. So it isn't their impultries in their under livestock and poultry products.

763
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,000
Okay. Yes. Thank you.

764
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:29,380
Thank you. Anyone else wish to speak on this item? Seeing none, bringing it back to the board.

765
01:15:32,050 --> 01:15:38,030
And no further comments or questions, I'm opening up because I don't believe there's any actions required.

766
01:15:40,010 --> 01:15:42,390
But I do not look at the recommended action.

767
01:15:43,090 --> 01:15:44,870
Yeah, just a presentation.

768
01:15:45,310 --> 01:15:46,770
All right. Thank you very much.

769
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:48,910
Always look forward to this.

770
01:15:48,910 --> 01:15:50,910
How you doing? Yeah.

771
01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:00,040
Thank you, Katherine.

772
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:01,540
Thank you.

773
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,560
That's historical.

774
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:19,320
All the way, more hot. I'm going to pull it free back then.

775
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,360
That might be the solution.

776
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:49,270
But the screen's not being shared, so we're good.

777
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:58,220
All right, next on our agenda, 6.7 or 9.50 AM, consideration and discussion of the resolution

778
01:16:58,220 --> 01:17:03,080
of formation declaring the formation of the Lake County Hospital Improvement District, and

779
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,240
we have Mr. Ben Ricklman.

780
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:19,100
Is it green? Good morning, board. Good morning, board. Ben Rickleman, Deputy County Administrative Officer. I'm here once again since you go test test test. Okay, it's good enough.

781
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:34,900
I'm here with Lake County Hospital Improvement District, so this is a four-step process and thankfully we are at the last step with a business-based assessment district with state law.

782
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:41,420
You have to have a resolution of attention, public meeting, public hearing, and then the resolution of formation.

783
01:18:41,420 --> 01:18:42,320
Then

784
01:18:46,480 --> 01:19:02,240
I will say after this process, if it's approved by the board, it will be brought to the California Department of Health, and they will look through it, and then it will need also federal approval with the Center of Medicare and Medicaid Services.

785
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,340
So

786
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,460
I included this slide at the public hearing.

787
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:20,520
There is a request with annual report that will be provided to the board to show with

788
01:19:21,620 --> 01:19:35,060
Sutter Lakeside and event is clear lake how the rates for both for care will work versus

789
01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:36,480
the systems as a whole.

790
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:49,480
So we have, this will be one of the reporting metrics, and you'll have this comparative analysis showing if there's any impact with this.

791
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:59,980
And then also at the board request, we did include a slide for the annual report that...

792
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:10,360
So, just show service volume. So, this will have both inpatient and outpatient for the two hospitals.

793
01:20:14,260 --> 01:20:18,720
Those were the only edits since the last meeting.

794
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:34,000
So we did incorporate with the Treasurer Tax Collector taking the 1% assessment fee for management of the funds and everything else has been left the same.

795
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:40,120
Anything further?

796
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:46,940
I want to invite the hospitals to potentially come up and make a comment before we bring it back to the board.

797
01:20:49,130 --> 01:20:51,130
You don't have to if you don't want to.

798
01:20:51,130 --> 01:20:55,110
Okay. Any comments or questions from board members?

799
01:20:56,290 --> 01:20:57,110
Supervisor Green.

800
01:20:57,310 --> 01:21:00,730
Just my vote today will be consistent with prior village on this issue.

801
01:21:01,090 --> 01:21:02,730
And it's no disrespect to those involved.

802
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:06,290
And thank you Mr. Recommend for your hard work on this.

803
01:21:08,050 --> 01:21:11,950
A quick question doesn't change the outcome just curious.

804
01:21:12,610 --> 01:21:16,630
So we're looking at potentially if I remember correctly 16 million,

805
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:19,870
which the one percent I'm guessing would be around the 160.

806
01:21:19,870 --> 01:21:25,570
and 60, and that's per year, correct?

807
01:21:26,350 --> 01:21:30,850
Correct, so, what where does that money go

808
01:21:30,850 --> 01:21:36,650
if it doesn't get spent in dealing with the collection

809
01:21:38,510 --> 01:21:40,990
and disbursements to the hospitals?

810
01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:43,430
Does that go into general fund?

811
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:46,810
Does that go into any specific category?

812
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:48,890
Does that go back to the hospitals?

813
01:21:48,890 --> 01:21:53,330
just kind of curious and what also happens if we find out that we're actually

814
01:21:53,330 --> 01:21:58,450
expanding more than that one percent. Do we have the ability to amend within the

815
01:21:58,450 --> 01:22:02,630
five years that this has been created? I was just curious about that because I didn't

816
01:22:02,630 --> 01:22:08,970
have any details. So we could amend the management plan that we just have to come back to

817
01:22:08,970 --> 01:22:16,790
the board so that could be adjusted that way. I would want to confer with Patrick. So this is

818
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:21,890
separate pot of money, so I don't think there's like an easy way to transfer to the general

819
01:22:21,890 --> 01:22:30,510
fund of their surplus, kind of how the TID operates. So usually assessment districts are

820
01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:37,430
fired wall as their own kind of financial kingdom, but I will check with Patrick kind of what

821
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:45,190
the processes would be the one person's more than enough, or if we would need more. I'm

822
01:22:45,190 --> 01:22:54,210
doubtful. I'm extremely doubtful that it would be insufficient, I mean too. Since it's only two entities

823
01:22:54,210 --> 01:23:01,310
it should actually be significantly more a less of a burden to administrate than the TID.

824
01:23:01,570 --> 01:23:06,650
I mean you only have two entities and they're willing participants. So you're not tracking down

825
01:23:06,650 --> 01:23:08,610
money or going through enforcement.

826
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:15,390
It'd be nice to I guess review that after a full year's worth

827
01:23:15,390 --> 01:23:21,550
of practice to see where it is and what does eventually happen to those dollars at the end.

828
01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:23,510
But that was my only curiosity.

829
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:25,630
I really appreciate the update on the reporting.

830
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:30,090
I think it fits exactly what was requested by the board and ready to move forward.

831
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:33,910
I guess my last question is, I've been following what's been happening at the city of

832
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:37,210
clearly because there's the other jurisdiction that needs to also approve this.

833
01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:41,990
Did they approve all the way through step four or do they still have one step left to do?

834
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:48,630
So, all the city of Clare Lake had to do was pass a resolution of consent, which was an attachment.

835
01:23:50,010 --> 01:23:54,990
So, they did pass that back in September, and then so for a business-based assessment district,

836
01:23:56,430 --> 01:23:59,310
since hospitals and Clare Lake, they have to do that.

837
01:23:59,650 --> 01:24:07,110
So, we, it's acknowledged in the resolution that the city passed it, and that was the only action they needed to take.

838
01:24:07,710 --> 01:24:09,250
It's a different process than what we're following.

839
01:24:09,310 --> 01:24:09,650
Correct.

840
01:24:09,870 --> 01:24:10,530
Thank you very much.

841
01:24:10,530 --> 01:24:16,630
Let's go ahead and open it up for public comments regarding this item, anyone wish to speak on this item.

842
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:23,590
I went up to the microphone or raise your hand and zoom and seeing none of the above,

843
01:24:23,870 --> 01:24:25,390
I'll bring it back to the board for action.

844
01:24:25,710 --> 01:24:26,450
A lot for the resolution.

845
01:24:26,810 --> 01:24:27,950
Resolution has been offered.

846
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:31,710
Supervisor Simon.

847
01:24:32,510 --> 01:24:34,270
Supervisor Crandell.

848
01:24:34,570 --> 01:24:35,530
Supervisor Green.

849
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:36,930
Supervisor Piscos.

850
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:37,170
Yes.

851
01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:38,450
Supervisor Svott here.

852
01:24:38,670 --> 01:24:38,910
Hi.

853
01:24:40,930 --> 01:24:41,630
Thank you very much.

854
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:51,650
I also will say a first in the state of California I believe. Yes. So let's see how this works out for the benefit of the community. Thank you so much.

855
01:24:52,510 --> 01:24:53,090
Thank you.

856
01:24:57,550 --> 01:24:59,850
Let's go ahead and move on to our 6.8.

857
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:10,620
Item 10am, presentation, regarding the housing action and implementation plan, H-A-I-P, and with us we have Ms.

858
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,000
Lisa Judd.

859
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:19,160
Good morning.

860
01:25:25,070 --> 01:25:29,630
Good morning, Board. Lisa Judd, Deputy County Administrative Officer Housing.

861
01:25:30,690 --> 01:25:35,790
The County Office of Administration is very pleased to be here to give you a presentation from

862
01:25:35,790 --> 01:25:40,930
place works regarding our ongoing work for the Housing Action and Implementation Plan

863
01:25:40,930 --> 01:25:42,070
HATE.

864
01:25:43,250 --> 01:25:48,450
Place works presentation will discuss sections of the HATE including current conditions, engagement

865
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:55,910
and outreach site selection and additionally they will preview that a GIS tool that will enhance

866
01:25:55,910 --> 01:26:00,810
the accessibility of the plan and an update schedule for the HATE completion.

867
01:26:00,810 --> 01:26:06,930
And I also wanted to mention that this has been a collaborative effort with community development

868
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:13,790
specifically director Turner and Deputy Lockersmith in addition to the vision 2050 team.

869
01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:19,170
This will be a foundational element for our housing element, I think that was written on it.

870
01:26:20,890 --> 01:26:25,170
And with that, I will pass this over to Amy and Nicole from place works.

871
01:26:31,250 --> 01:26:31,930
Good morning.

872
01:26:32,130 --> 01:26:33,430
Can everybody hear me?

873
01:26:37,620 --> 01:26:38,820
Yes, we can hear you.

874
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,520
Okay, great.

875
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,580
Let me see if we can get this to share.

876
01:26:44,860 --> 01:26:45,620
There we go.

877
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,700
My name is Amy Sinsheimer.

878
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,920
As Lisa said, with police work,

879
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,220
I also have with me here today in Nicole West.

880
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:59,020
We've been happy to be working with the community and the staff since earlier this year.

881
01:26:59,940 --> 01:27:01,440
And happy to provide enough for you today.

882
01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:05,900
So just to give an overview on the project,

883
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:08,340
the Housing Action and Implementation Plan

884
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:16,180
is to augment, you know, the state required efforts that are part of your housing

885
01:27:16,180 --> 01:27:23,040
element update and really take a look at the local need in the county as well

886
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:29,760
as in clear lake and lake port. So it is related to the general plan update process

887
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:35,620
that's underway, which the board has been involved with and probably many of you who are here

888
01:27:35,620 --> 01:27:44,200
today, but is not a part of that plan. It will be moving forward on a faster schedule. So we are

889
01:27:45,260 --> 01:27:51,800
kind of right in the end of the middle section of the work here. You can see that we have worked

890
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:59,940
to gather a lot of community input. Mostly during the summer months, this last year, we also have

891
01:27:59,940 --> 01:28:03,800
put together a current conditions report,

892
01:28:04,420 --> 01:28:09,560
looking at demographics and other factors that affect housing

893
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,340
in the county, we will get into that a little bit more

894
01:28:12,340 --> 01:28:13,840
in some additional slides.

895
01:28:14,620 --> 01:28:18,800
We've also been starting to work on sites analysis,

896
01:28:19,340 --> 01:28:24,340
as well as analysis of what are the needs, the gaps,

897
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,360
and what kind of strategies and goals can be implemented

898
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,180
moving forward.

899
01:28:28,180 --> 01:28:36,000
We do not have a draft yet of the goals, strategies, actions, and resources part of the

900
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:45,260
heap as we call it, the plan, and so that will be coming in winter 2025 for the public review

901
01:28:45,260 --> 01:28:47,460
is our estimate right now.

902
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,780
So I think that's it for this first slide.

903
01:28:53,260 --> 01:28:57,520
Moving on to, as I mentioned, the current conditions of summary report.

904
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,660
This will be an appendix to the draft ape plan.

905
01:29:02,860 --> 01:29:06,160
It doesn't include quite a bit of demographic information,

906
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:10,020
population, economics, housing.

907
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:16,540
In particular, there are certain populations that tend to have greater housing needs

908
01:29:16,540 --> 01:29:21,200
and those that do in Lake County and the cities that we've highlighted.

909
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:47,980
I wanted to mention veterans are a group that has been highlighted and there are some assistance programs available including federal vouchers or housing in the county but there could be more so that this one thing the strategies are looking at we also have quite a bit of information about seniors in this part of the report.

910
01:29:47,980 --> 01:29:53,260
There are, you know, developments specifically, there are age-and-stricted for seniors,

911
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:59,980
and there are about, excuse me, there are 14, but we have listed in Table 1.

912
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,460
22 of this part of the report and they have capacity for over 450 residents. There's at least one additional project that's coming online right now.

913
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:15,000
So that is unique in the county as well.

914
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:29,920
We have a section of this appendix about regulations related to housing, both in terms of the local zoning at the county and city level, but also state law, as well as

915
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:36,840
How does all of this work together to either facilitate or not facilitate housing?

916
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,540
This existing conditions information sets out the regulatory framework

917
01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:47,940
and then the next steps in the plan will kind of take a look at

918
01:30:47,940 --> 01:30:52,540
other changes that are needed or things that can be done to incentivize housing.

919
01:30:54,780 --> 01:31:01,940
It's been into a little bit more of the detail in that in a minute, but we also have a section that talks about fair housing.

920
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:11,980
There is quite a bit of state and federal law addressing fair housing and when the county and the cities update their housing elements in a few years.

921
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:20,360
That is a new focus for the state, so taking a look at some of the data where you're county.

922
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:24,500
We also have information about local and regional resources,

923
01:31:25,380 --> 01:31:27,760
for housing services, housing facilities,

924
01:31:29,620 --> 01:31:30,940
what's the seat of infrastructure,

925
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:36,120
and also some information about where folks can go

926
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:41,100
to get housed during a disaster and other disaster-related services

927
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:42,860
and issues.

928
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:50,330
So we wanted to talk a little bit more about some of the more recent changes

929
01:31:50,330 --> 01:31:57,540
in state law related to housing that either are already impacting the late county area or

930
01:31:58,210 --> 01:32:06,150
could potentially be something that makes a difference. So Assembly Bill 2162 went into effect

931
01:32:06,150 --> 01:32:13,410
a few years back. It basically says that all jurisdictions across the state need to allow for

932
01:32:13,410 --> 01:32:19,670
permanent support of housing, which basically housing that's affordable and also provides

933
01:32:19,670 --> 01:32:43,190
supportive services. There are many different types of permanent supportive housing, so it can be for different groups of folks that they must be allowed, you know, without discretionary review and multi family residential or mixed use areas. So that's a change from historically that was something that was left up to the local governments.

934
01:32:43,190 --> 01:32:50,490
And part of that law also says that when applications for this kind of project come in, they must be reviewed in a timely fashion.

935
01:32:51,070 --> 01:32:53,970
That's the short version of what the second bullet says there.

936
01:32:54,910 --> 01:33:04,890
So this, I think, is already something that's happening in some places in the county and maybe as a result of this law.

937
01:33:05,570 --> 01:33:16,630
Accessory douling units and junior accessory douling units have really become allowed much more broadly across the state of California since about 2018.

938
01:33:18,570 --> 01:33:32,790
But the lot change is almost every year on this topic, so that in general it has just become more permissive if you want to build a gradient or accessory douling unit either in your yard or inside your existing home.

939
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:50,990
That is generally allowed if you follow certain development standards or criteria in the law and just a little more on that, just some examples of the things that the state law talks about.

940
01:33:50,990 --> 01:33:57,390
So, a lot size, height, setbacks from, you know, the street, and other buildings,

941
01:33:58,150 --> 01:34:03,510
properties, a number of bedrooms, parking, the size of these accessory-dwelling units,

942
01:34:04,250 --> 01:34:11,310
and whether or not fees can be charged. So, in general, all of these things are set in state law

943
01:34:11,310 --> 01:34:15,210
and the local jurisdictions by with them.

944
01:34:17,290 --> 01:34:20,290
And then finally, in terms of environmental review of

945
01:34:20,290 --> 01:34:35,390
So generally under the California Environmental Quality Act, there are certain residential projects that, you know, I have to go through as much review, which makes it more of a sure thing or somebody proposing that project.

946
01:34:37,790 --> 01:34:44,670
They have to meet certain standards, help us safety, consistency with the general plan, things like that.

947
01:34:45,190 --> 01:34:59,970
But once that happens, there are certain categories of exemptions as what it's called to actually allow for a very minimal review and not really any public review of certain...

948
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:23,620
And there's a list here of some of those exemptions that may already be used in Lake County or could be potentially suited for this area. So these this type of option has been increasing under state law over the years. So trying to streamline certain types of housing development.

949
01:35:26,350 --> 01:35:30,310
And with that, I am going to turn it over to Nicole. Thank you.

950
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:36,650
Thank you, Amy. Hi everyone. Thank you for inviting me to share these updates with you.

951
01:35:36,830 --> 01:35:44,450
As Amy mentioned, it's been a pleasure working with Lisa and the rest of the staff and the community on this effort.

952
01:35:45,810 --> 01:35:52,310
Next slide, please. I'll talk first about the outreach activities that we've been doing.

953
01:35:52,310 --> 01:35:58,710
The outreach for the hate has been thorough and we received a lot of feedback from a wide range of perspectives.

954
01:35:59,510 --> 01:36:05,210
We benefited greatly from the parallel timing of Lake County 2050, the General Plan update.

955
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:10,470
We were able to collect input on housing from a combined community survey.

956
01:36:11,070 --> 01:36:17,810
Two community open houses, meetings with the General Plan Advisory Committee, the local area plan advisory committees,

957
01:36:17,810 --> 01:36:23,450
an environmental justice focus group and meetings with Spanish speaking residents and several

958
01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:29,010
Native American tribes specifically for the hate we also engaged with local stakeholders

959
01:36:29,010 --> 01:36:34,730
and housing specialists, including the continuum of care and professionals working in

960
01:36:34,730 --> 01:36:40,390
land development, real estate and economic development. And we also receive valuable information

961
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:47,030
from the nonprofit NCO and from the Lake County Department of Social Services. Next slide please

962
01:36:49,860 --> 01:37:05,640
We've prepared a detailed summary document that will be in appendix to the hate where you can read more about all these findings and all of the outreach activities and these findings inform the goals and strategies for the hate as well.

963
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:16,140
They include fire safety and insurance as the biggest most broadly frequently mentioned housing related concerns through all the different outreach activities.

964
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:23,240
and there's also broad support for a variety of housing and ensuring that there's types of

965
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:29,620
housing that are affordable to all of the different economic levels. Also outreach participants

966
01:37:29,620 --> 01:37:35,580
showed a lot of support for things that the county can do and the two cities to amend

967
01:37:35,580 --> 01:37:41,560
their zoning regulations to be more flexible and speed up residential construction. Next slide please.

968
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:56,780
There's also a lot of support for infill development and limiting new development in certain areas and that finding informs the plan as well as the site analysis.

969
01:37:57,860 --> 01:38:08,060
Also the community considers maintaining and rehabilitating homes and neighborhoods as a really high priority and generally vacation homes in short term rentals are considered beneficial.

970
01:38:08,060 --> 01:38:10,220
next slide please.

971
01:38:12,410 --> 01:38:17,150
So that summary document that I mentioned has these major themes that

972
01:38:17,150 --> 01:38:23,210
really bubble to the surface with all of the robust outreach activities that we did. It's

973
01:38:23,210 --> 01:38:29,750
a lot about the concerns and opportunities. What is needed? Who needs housing? Where should it go?

974
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:37,690
How should it be done? So you can look forward to seeing that as an appendix soon. I'll go ahead and

975
01:38:37,690 --> 01:38:44,870
move on to the site analysis now and you can go yes thank you. So the purpose of the site

976
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:51,910
analysis is to identify sites for a variety of types of housing and this includes suitable

977
01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:57,770
sites which means generally that housing is already allowed and they're either vacant or

978
01:38:57,770 --> 01:39:03,410
they're good sites for redevelopment. We're also looking to identify priority sites which means

979
01:39:03,410 --> 01:39:09,290
they are suitable plus there's other conditions either of the site itself or the surrounding area

980
01:39:09,290 --> 01:39:15,970
that make it favorable for housing and really a particular priority for a variety of reasons.

981
01:39:16,850 --> 01:39:21,750
And then we're also looking for sites to consider for rezoning. And that could be to add housing

982
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:28,090
as an allowed use where it's not allowed right now or to densify where housing is already allowed.

983
01:39:28,230 --> 01:39:33,210
And these are being identified in coordination with the potential land use changes that are

984
01:39:33,210 --> 01:39:37,970
discussed as a part of the general plan update. Next slide please.

985
01:39:40,210 --> 01:39:41,590
So I have two slides about

986
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:48,630
the considerations that we think of when we're looking at the sites. We look at the housing

987
01:39:48,630 --> 01:39:54,710
element inventory from the last cycle and see which sites are still available. And then we also look

988
01:39:54,710 --> 01:39:59,890
ahead to the next cycle, which is coming up here just in a couple of years. We're really planning

989
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:12,080
To as Lisa mentioned, set you up for success for that. And so we think of what HCD, the housing and community development department, we think of what they're going to be looking for when they do their review and certification.

990
01:40:13,220 --> 01:40:23,940
So we apply their criteria. For example, sites that are suitable for meeting the lower income housing needs can only be counted where at least 15 units per acre is allowed.

991
01:40:23,940 --> 01:40:31,200
And then they also have pretty strict definitions of vacant and underutilized and so I'll talk about that in just a minute.

992
01:40:31,860 --> 01:40:37,660
And then there's also some fair housing considerations that we keep in mind that we know each CD is going to prioritize.

993
01:40:39,060 --> 01:40:52,000
Also, we've been looking at tax credit financing applications and the additional points that you can get for citing your site being adjacent to transit parks and other amenities.

994
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,440
So we're keeping that in mind as well, and then we're coordinating more with the general

995
01:40:56,440 --> 01:41:00,660
plant team, in particular, the team working on the safety element to make sure that we're

996
01:41:00,660 --> 01:41:07,100
considering flooding landslides, evacuation constraints, and fire hazards, and then also

997
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:12,220
water, of course, and wastewater is a big consideration as well. Next slide, please.

998
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:20,000
Okay, so as I mentioned, HDD is pretty strict about what they will consider as a vacant site.

999
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:26,880
There can't be any structures, even structures on not permanent foundations, no improvements or existing uses.

1000
01:41:27,260 --> 01:41:39,900
However, that doesn't mean that a site is not good for redevelopment, and so we would consider an underutilized site to be one where it's not vacant, but it actually is a really good candidate for redevelopment.

1001
01:41:40,180 --> 01:41:48,560
And that could be either of the entire site or maybe there's an existing use that's going to stay on a portion and there's room on that site for additional development.

1002
01:41:49,600 --> 01:42:05,560
So some of the examples here are listed on the screen for what would be a type of site like this where if you might have say you have a big anchor store and they know that they're going to be moving to another location in the next year and those uses are going to be discontinued.

1003
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,360
start thinking about what's going to happen with that site.

1004
01:42:08,820 --> 01:42:12,540
And then also places where we have abandoned vacant buildings

1005
01:42:12,540 --> 01:42:14,920
or are deteriorated in older structures

1006
01:42:15,500 --> 01:42:17,940
or where you have a high opportunity area

1007
01:42:17,940 --> 01:42:20,580
with other kind of neighborhood amenities nearby

1008
01:42:20,580 --> 01:42:22,260
that really make it a good candidate

1009
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:25,920
for adding potentially a mixed use development there.

1010
01:42:27,060 --> 01:42:27,980
Next slide, please.

1011
01:42:29,860 --> 01:42:30,400
Okay, yeah.

1012
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,560
So Lisa mentioned this interactive web map,

1013
01:42:32,740 --> 01:42:35,140
which is a really fun and exciting way

1014
01:42:35,140 --> 01:42:41,440
being able to show the results of the analysis that we're working on is not yet available to the

1015
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:47,680
public, but it will be once we get it all buttoned up. So I have just a few slides here that

1016
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:53,780
shows some of the features in the top left. You can see that there is a place where you can show

1017
01:42:53,780 --> 01:43:00,940
different items from the legend, and then you can also look at different layers. And then you can

1018
01:43:00,940 --> 01:43:07,080
filter for different things that we will be that we're in the process of adding through our analysis.

1019
01:43:07,820 --> 01:43:12,340
For example, how I mentioned the suitable sites, priority sites, potential resones,

1020
01:43:12,540 --> 01:43:17,480
vacant underutilized. These are the different filters that we would use.

1021
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,940
And actually Amy, you could advance a couple slides. I have those shown.

1022
01:43:22,620 --> 01:43:25,880
Yep, that's one in the middle. And then one more slide is the one in the right.

1023
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,100
So let's, yep, and then we can stay there for a second.

1024
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,620
There's a couple of ways to find parcels on the map.

1025
01:43:31,780 --> 01:43:36,420
You can zoom in manually or you can enter addresses or APMs

1026
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:39,600
into the search bar and then you can zoom to the site that way.

1027
01:43:40,060 --> 01:43:41,120
Next slide, please.

1028
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,300
And then once you get to the site, that's what you see.

1029
01:43:44,580 --> 01:43:46,000
They're pops up with all this information.

1030
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,540
And we've been enriching the data with all this different information.

1031
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:55,640
And so when it is available, you'll be able to see all that next slide, please.

1032
01:43:56,820 --> 01:44:09,260
And then another way, instead of just searching for one individual site, another way to use this tool is to use the map filters to, for example, look at all the sites that are vacant or all the ones that are priority.

1033
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:18,580
And then you can further refine that through a tool that we added on the right that you can where you can select the different jurisdictions in filter for that as well.

1034
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:24,420
So that's my last slide, and we are happy to take comments and questions from you.

1035
01:44:25,700 --> 01:44:28,680
Thank you very much for your presentation and your work.

1036
01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:30,140
Supervisor Pyska.

1037
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:32,480
Very comprehensive.

1038
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:37,420
There's a lot going into this and it was so needed so thank you all for that.

1039
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:45,820
One of the things that we've come up a lot in my work for a disaster recovery is what happens

1040
01:44:45,820 --> 01:44:51,020
after we have a disaster where housing is lost and then we know that checker boarding

1041
01:44:51,020 --> 01:44:58,100
happens when development begins again and you have lots that are developed and lots that aren't

1042
01:44:58,100 --> 01:44:59,860
developed and we're seeing that in all the footprint.

1043
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:14,880
All the fires that we've had. And so when we think of fire as our big disaster and we have checkerboardering, checkerboarding, happening, then we have increased risk in those new communities.

1044
01:45:15,660 --> 01:45:24,440
And I don't know, Chief Duncan's here, he sees it every day. We know this is something that's going to come, you know, with the footprint of the boils fire after clear lake.

1045
01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:41,360
So one strategy that's been talked about in some of the national groups I'm working with is developing a land trust that comes in and buys up those lots because we've got people that are never coming back yet.

1046
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:47,580
They are hanging on to their property here and they don't really understand the peril that they're putting their neighbors in potential peril.

1047
01:45:47,580 --> 01:45:56,420
So, a way to do this is buy up these properties through a land trust, manage them, manage the vegetation,

1048
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:01,660
and then potentially sell them to developers or builders.

1049
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,360
This is happening in Maui right now where they're really trying to protect the local community

1050
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,940
and the people that live there so that they're the native people aren't displaced.

1051
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,960
So it's applied in different ways throughout the country.

1052
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:23,020
So I wanted to bring this up. It's something that we at Lisa and I've talked about it. I also think director Turner may have been in on that call.

1053
01:46:23,940 --> 01:46:29,480
I don't know how it looks in our county, but I do know that we have our new county and foundation.

1054
01:46:30,260 --> 01:46:41,760
We have this. Hey, and we have some plans. So I would like this also to be something that we consider and I hope the rest of the board has consensus for that.

1055
01:46:43,170 --> 01:46:44,630
Thank you for your comment.

1056
01:46:45,310 --> 01:46:46,010
Supervisor Green.

1057
01:46:49,710 --> 01:46:51,670
Question and then a question slash comment.

1058
01:46:51,890 --> 01:46:53,410
The first one was for the slide deck.

1059
01:46:53,550 --> 01:46:55,010
The first presenter put on.

1060
01:46:55,370 --> 01:46:57,430
I don't have the name where I can read it.

1061
01:46:58,350 --> 01:47:02,630
But there was a reference to Lakeport Dam on one of those slides.

1062
01:47:03,550 --> 01:47:04,630
Perk my ears up.

1063
01:47:05,110 --> 01:47:06,810
Since we don't actually have a Lakeport Dam.

1064
01:47:07,050 --> 01:47:10,050
So can you pull that slide up or explain the context of that reference?

1065
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:13,080
Yes.

1066
01:47:13,860 --> 01:47:16,080
So we do have some information about.

1067
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:24,180
The dam in our report, I can pull up the report and see what it specifically says there.

1068
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:25,440
One second.

1069
01:47:33,700 --> 01:47:39,400
Yeah, so we do have some information that says that Lake Port Dam is in our thin dam.

1070
01:47:40,740 --> 01:47:44,780
And portions of the city are downstream from it. Is that not correct?

1071
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,660
I would say not at this point.

1072
01:47:49,020 --> 01:47:51,500
50 years ago there was planning for Lake Port Dam

1073
01:47:51,500 --> 01:47:54,860
and it was also planning for Pomodam down in Big Valley.

1074
01:47:55,380 --> 01:47:57,160
But neither of those projects came to fruition.

1075
01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:00,660
And I was a little curious, even if there was a dam there,

1076
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,400
I didn't know the context in the housing analysis.

1077
01:48:05,020 --> 01:48:06,540
So anyway, I just wanted to highlight that.

1078
01:48:06,580 --> 01:48:10,280
That may be something you and double check on and update that.

1079
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,180
My second question has to do with short-term rentals

1080
01:48:13,180 --> 01:48:17,040
and the findings of general beneficial stuff.

1081
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:23,060
That seems counterintuitive to me because when I think about housing availability,

1082
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:30,140
we have perfectly good residential homes that are basically precluded from housing people,

1083
01:48:30,220 --> 01:48:34,660
permanently on a new round basis because they're being made available for short-term rentals,

1084
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:38,480
or as second homes for vacationers or stuff like that.

1085
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:41,220
So I'm wondering how deep a dive, this particular

1086
01:48:41,220 --> 01:48:44,320
hate is going to go into short-term rentals,

1087
01:48:46,140 --> 01:48:48,860
because maybe there's general agreement in the people

1088
01:48:48,860 --> 01:48:51,220
you've been talking to about their beneficial status,

1089
01:48:51,220 --> 01:48:53,520
but when it comes up to here at the policy level,

1090
01:48:54,340 --> 01:48:56,060
I don't know that I'm instantly convinced

1091
01:48:56,060 --> 01:48:57,040
that it is beneficial.

1092
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,780
I think the equal argument could be that they're detrimental

1093
01:49:00,780 --> 01:49:03,160
to housing availability and like County.

1094
01:49:04,500 --> 01:49:07,580
So can you just speak a little bit about how deep you went

1095
01:49:07,580 --> 01:49:12,760
the STRs and how deep you're going to go as we move forward on this hate, you know, if

1096
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:17,120
it's more of a general plan issue, we can talk about it at that level, but this seems to

1097
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:22,460
be where the money meets the, I don't know, I even know what I'm saying, but can you discuss

1098
01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:28,320
STRs and your findings on that? Sure, I'd be happy to thank you for that question, and

1099
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:35,000
I think in the interest of brevity, we just gave you kind of the headline, but the outreach summary

1100
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:39,480
has a lot more detail on that and you're absolutely correct that there are community concerns

1101
01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:47,260
about vacation homes and short-term rentals replacing long-term residence. The community survey

1102
01:49:47,260 --> 01:49:59,960
had a lot of questions about this and about concerns and benefits and then also about what kind of

1103
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:23,320
Lots of different ideas there, and results from the community survey. Also, this community survey was organized around the local areas, and so the results that are reported in the summary show which local areas have more concerns than other areas, and also which areas believe that there's more benefits versus concerns.

1104
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:24,080
Thanks.

1105
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:26,520
Thank you.

1106
01:50:29,260 --> 01:50:29,900
Vice Chair Crandell?

1107
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:30,980
Yes.

1108
01:50:31,460 --> 01:50:33,000
So, thank you for this.

1109
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:42,020
I'm glad to see that, you know, I mentioned in the legislation text that the priorities

1110
01:50:42,020 --> 01:50:46,380
are in place because we need more housing at all income levels.

1111
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:55,900
I bring that up because I would like to see what we can also find or put ahead of this

1112
01:50:55,900 --> 01:51:02,220
stream, I guess you will, that's the best way I can say it is the issues that I have with

1113
01:51:02,220 --> 01:51:06,620
a couple of developers, so when those developers come or these folks that are going to

1114
01:51:06,620 --> 01:51:17,140
build implement this and they at times are building for senior citizens or people with low income

1115
01:51:17,140 --> 01:51:27,120
You know, needs, and so these folks sometimes use this capital improvement mindset to impose on to these ranchers that are on fixed incomes.

1116
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:38,060
And I understand at this state level there's not a lot we can do, but if there's something we can do to prevent that and ensure that some of these folks aren't basically moved out of their homes because of this.

1117
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,840
If there's something we can do I like to see what that is.

1118
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:43,980
I have three of them in my district.

1119
01:51:44,540 --> 01:51:46,340
They are also tied to things that have happened

1120
01:51:46,340 --> 01:51:48,240
and willets in a couple other places.

1121
01:51:49,340 --> 01:51:53,740
And so I just want to make sure that we keep that in mind.

1122
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:56,540
Thank you.

1123
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:57,580
Thank you.

1124
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:03,260
So there was a request at least for potential consensus

1125
01:52:03,260 --> 01:52:06,180
from a supervisor, Piska, to maybe continue looking

1126
01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:07,360
into the opportunities.

1127
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:11,540
And I see the checkerboard already in existence

1128
01:52:11,540 --> 01:52:19,280
in some of our old developments that have not sustained fire or anything like that as well.

1129
01:52:21,260 --> 01:52:25,980
Because lots were sold a long time ago in certain families, certain owners just decided

1130
01:52:25,980 --> 01:52:26,900
not to do development.

1131
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,600
So as you go through the avenues for example in the city of Clear Lake you'll start seeing

1132
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:36,020
some of those checkerboard lots where absolutely it's where you see the vegetation just

1133
01:52:36,020 --> 01:52:41,420
a little bit more out of control and most of the time you'll have neighbors that take care

1134
01:52:41,420 --> 01:52:43,420
that rather than the actual responsible owner

1135
01:52:43,420 --> 01:52:46,760
of themselves, if they even take care of it at all.

1136
01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:51,580
And so I think that looking for ways to better secure

1137
01:52:53,140 --> 01:52:56,800
our communities, I think, is I'm open to that.

1138
01:52:56,820 --> 01:52:58,540
I'm not sure if that's the solution,

1139
01:52:58,740 --> 01:53:01,540
but if I don't have that discussion and open up

1140
01:53:01,540 --> 01:53:04,420
for this conversation, then maybe I'm saying,

1141
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:06,340
notice something that might actually work.

1142
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,280
So I'm open for the idea to come back to the board

1143
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:10,280
see what's possible.

1144
01:53:12,540 --> 01:53:17,440
And I think that one of the things that I'm really curious about the

1145
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:24,020
sites that you're looking for, because I don't have the details, but I saw that you're obviously

1146
01:53:24,020 --> 01:53:32,460
looking at the entire county, but I hope that I really appreciate what you mentioned, because it was

1147
01:53:32,460 --> 01:53:39,260
also something I was thinking the whole time. But as we're doing this simultaneously with the

1148
01:53:39,260 --> 01:53:44,880
that we really review, where is it that we want to really focus for growth?

1149
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,920
And I'm looking at the GIS map right now.

1150
01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:53,240
We have our community growth boundaries, but I don't know when the last time we necessarily

1151
01:53:53,240 --> 01:54:00,400
updated that we have large communities that are not specified as community growth boundaries.

1152
01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:05,900
And I think along with community growth boundaries comes certain measures to protect those

1153
01:54:05,900 --> 01:54:08,920
communities, for example, cannabis.

1154
01:54:09,260 --> 01:54:13,840
You have to be a thousand feet away from community growth boundaries in order not to be embedded

1155
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:17,000
within these communities that have grown over the years.

1156
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,820
And so certain ones are not necessarily made safe from those.

1157
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:26,680
And when I say safe, I mean, subjected to the potential smell that comes from those types

1158
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:30,900
of operations and the traffic that comes from those operations and things like that.

1159
01:54:30,900 --> 01:54:38,660
And so I hope that we're looking at what 2050 will be doing if that there's going to be

1160
01:54:38,660 --> 01:54:43,380
an expansion of community growth boundaries within the county of Lake and also that we're

1161
01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:49,860
really looking at in-fill sites within the community growth boundaries because it's so much easier

1162
01:54:49,860 --> 01:54:54,540
to protect the community growth boundaries from the fires that we've endured throughout the last decade

1163
01:54:54,540 --> 01:54:59,280
or so that we just have to be mindful of that.

1164
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:27,520
In the future, if a private person wants to build a house in the wooE, and the wildlife urban interface, that's up to them, and go through the planning phase and go through the permitting phase, but if we're going to be helping whatsoever in getting tax credits or using some of the funds that we receive from the state or feds, I would want to make sure that we're focusing on ensuring that those are going to be added into the community growth boundaries.

1165
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:32,200
just because we have to think in a 20, 30 years, and if this is what we're experiencing right

1166
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:38,360
now, I don't know that we've tapered off with the issues that we're dealing with when it comes

1167
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:43,120
with climate change fires, and so on. I'm more worried about the fires than I am about the

1168
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:47,800
floods, but flooding is also still an issue that we have to be wary of. So that's that's really

1169
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:52,980
my only thing that I'm hoping the site selection is really focusing on, and I'm putting my

1170
01:55:52,980 --> 01:56:04,820
we want to maintain our open space, we just had a conversation about agriculture, we want to maintain our agricultural space as well.

1171
01:56:05,260 --> 01:56:10,820
And there's a lot of chance for infilling in those checker boards and working with rehabilitation to make those things happen.

1172
01:56:11,340 --> 01:56:17,520
So those are my only comments, but I do appreciate the deep dive that you've done, looking forward to that mapping tool being available to the public

1173
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:21,120
and seeing the final report as you continue to work towards that.

1174
01:56:22,020 --> 01:56:27,220
Thank you for that. I'll add that a little bit of context as well with this initial

1175
01:56:27,220 --> 01:56:34,020
pass at the sites for the hate. Our aim is to provide the county and the cities with

1176
01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:40,420
a lot of information in a really clear format. We do want to help with identifying priority

1177
01:56:40,420 --> 01:56:45,200
sites that can be marketed to developers, but then it's the housing element that's coming

1178
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:51,040
up in a couple of years where you can take this as well as the other results from the general

1179
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:56,380
plan process that will be happening after the hate wraps up and then you can even drill down further

1180
01:56:56,380 --> 01:56:59,740
at that point in a couple of years when working on your housing element inventory.

1181
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:06,220
Thank you so much. And I did see that Director Turner approached the

1182
01:57:06,220 --> 01:57:11,300
Dias, so I'm wondering if she wanted to respond or make a comment before I open it up for public

1183
01:57:11,300 --> 01:57:13,920
comment and vice chair. Thank you.

1184
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,960
We are a community development director.

1185
01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:23,260
I'd be happy to have a discussion with you regarding community growth boundaries offline.

1186
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,180
I find your thoughts very helpful.

1187
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:32,280
But I don't want to derail the focus that we have on the hate right now.

1188
01:57:32,900 --> 01:57:33,320
Thank you.

1189
01:57:33,900 --> 01:57:34,180
Thank you.

1190
01:57:34,820 --> 01:57:35,320
Mr. Grant.

1191
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:42,640
The other thing I was going to mention I heard short-term rentals as well mentioned by my supervisor Green.

1192
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:49,760
And I know that there's been some discussions in work that's moving in that area on another

1193
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:50,280
end.

1194
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:57,420
So that's where we can, with an ordinance, put that ahead and ensure that this, it doesn't

1195
01:57:57,420 --> 01:57:58,280
affect this.

1196
01:57:59,060 --> 01:58:01,980
So I'll let that come when it comes because I know it is.

1197
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:03,080
But yeah.

1198
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:05,280
Thank you very much.

1199
01:58:06,260 --> 01:58:06,740
Supervisor Green.

1200
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:07,420
Did you want to respond?

1201
01:58:07,420 --> 01:58:09,240
I think that's not just a supervisor,

1202
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:10,780
a piece of suggestion.

1203
01:58:11,300 --> 01:58:13,540
I agree, I agree with that.

1204
01:58:14,060 --> 01:58:14,660
I agree with that.

1205
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:16,680
I don't know where my mic went.

1206
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:18,200
All right.

1207
01:58:18,420 --> 01:58:21,120
Let's go ahead and open up for public comments.

1208
01:58:21,340 --> 01:58:22,500
And I'm going to start on Zoom.

1209
01:58:22,620 --> 01:58:23,800
We've had a couple of hands up.

1210
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,020
So let's start with Margot Combara.

1211
01:58:32,660 --> 01:58:33,520
Good morning, Board.

1212
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,900
Thank you for the opportunity to ask questions on the hate.

1213
01:58:37,420 --> 01:58:39,720
I have a couple of comments.

1214
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:41,080
First, I'm sorry.

1215
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:44,460
I didn't explain my background.

1216
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,340
I am a member of the general plan advisory committee.

1217
01:58:49,060 --> 01:58:51,920
And I was wondering where the materials are available

1218
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,720
that you have.

1219
01:58:52,860 --> 01:58:54,460
It sounds like you have great data.

1220
01:58:54,700 --> 01:58:57,400
And I would like to take a look at the community

1221
01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:58,600
and put that you've gotten.

1222
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,380
I think that would definitely better

1223
01:59:01,380 --> 01:59:03,480
and form work on the general plan.

1224
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,600
And then I have two other comments and questions.

1225
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:13,580
And one is a relative to what Vice Chair Crandell brought up, what's happening with some

1226
01:59:13,580 --> 01:59:18,060
of our mobile parks, which housed our seniors and low-income people.

1227
01:59:19,020 --> 01:59:26,900
Some communities have made arrangements to allow mobile home residents to purchase the mobile

1228
01:59:26,900 --> 01:59:31,060
home park before investors purchase a park.

1229
01:59:31,060 --> 01:59:38,380
And I was wondering if you can make a note of that to see if that can be feasible for Lake County.

1230
01:59:39,500 --> 01:59:48,540
And my other question is, would you please comment on your approach to assessing the farm worker housing situation in Lake County?

1231
01:59:48,740 --> 01:59:49,700
Thank you.

1232
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,940
Thank you for your questions, Nicole or Amy, are you able to respond?

1233
01:59:53,580 --> 01:59:59,980
Yeah, certainly, to the first and the third question, we have a draft of these.

1234
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,120
Emergency engagement summary. But there are just a few meetings that haven't occurred yet. We're finishing up some of the meetings, the consultations with tribes.

1235
02:00:10,740 --> 02:00:27,180
There's also an agricultural industry stakeholder meeting coming up. And we want to add summaries of both of those. And we also anticipate meeting with staff in Lakeport and Clear Lake as well. And so after that, the outreach summary will be finalized.

1236
02:00:27,180 --> 02:00:33,600
and we can work with staff about how that will be released to the public and then what was the third question

1237
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:39,460
site? Oh, the agricultural. Yeah. So the stakeholder meeting that's coming up will speak to that topic.

1238
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,540
Whoever has their phone on speaker, if you can please turn off your phone.

1239
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:54,320
And then I can say just a bit about the mobile home comments. So we are looking into

1240
02:00:55,140 --> 02:01:00,060
protections for mobile existing mobile home park residents as part of the goals and strategies.

1241
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:06,020
Some of that already exists under state law that we're looking into options that could happen

1242
02:01:06,020 --> 02:01:12,120
in your account. So thanks for that suggestion and we've definitely gotten that input as part of

1243
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:18,260
the outreach so far as well. Thank you for your responses to that. Next is Betsy Con.

1244
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:25,020
Good morning. Can you come here? Okay. Yes, we can.

1245
02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:44,340
Thank you. This is Betsy Con for the Essential Public Information Center. I would like to suggest that as one commenter made the populations within the growth community growth boundaries that were set in 2008 may have increased significantly.

1246
02:01:44,340 --> 02:01:52,640
And so it would be helpful to see the outline of the community growth boundary with the added growth

1247
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:56,080
identified in those parcels that are surrounding it.

1248
02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:01,500
More importantly, I would like to see that the community growth boundaries establish

1249
02:02:01,500 --> 02:02:11,450
510 and 20-year planning horizons under the rubric of the sphere of influence similar to what

1250
02:02:11,450 --> 02:02:17,850
code does for the independent special district that provide health and safety services and make

1251
02:02:17,850 --> 02:02:25,870
sure that each of those special district boundaries with their, oh sorry, with their boundaries

1252
02:02:27,370 --> 02:02:34,950
are workable so that you don't have a community growth boundary sphere for 10 years that exceeds

1253
02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:40,810
the ability of the water district for example to provide water. So I think the sphere of influence

1254
02:02:40,810 --> 02:02:46,990
This model is really helpful for communities to understand where they can grow and what it would

1255
02:02:46,990 --> 02:02:48,570
take to get there.

1256
02:02:49,890 --> 02:02:55,150
Let's see, the other, yep, no, that's about it, thank you very much.

1257
02:02:55,610 --> 02:02:56,710
Thank you very much, Betsy.

1258
02:02:58,370 --> 02:02:59,630
I see no further hands in Zoom.

1259
02:02:59,990 --> 02:03:02,790
Anybody in the audience, switch to speak on this item.

1260
02:03:05,970 --> 02:03:08,270
I see no one getting up, so I'll bring it back to the board.

1261
02:03:08,410 --> 02:03:09,490
Any final comments?

1262
02:03:10,070 --> 02:03:13,170
And again, this is only part way through the final report.

1263
02:03:13,430 --> 02:03:14,750
Looking forward to the final report.

1264
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:18,150
It looked like it said, towards March, would be the end.

1265
02:03:18,630 --> 02:03:21,690
And so we'll welcome that back when it's ready to come back.

1266
02:03:22,210 --> 02:03:22,810
Thank you very much.

1267
02:03:22,950 --> 02:03:25,070
Thank you so much.

1268
02:03:25,630 --> 02:03:27,130
Thank you.

1269
02:03:27,770 --> 02:03:28,490
We're here.

1270
02:03:35,060 --> 02:03:38,960
And at this moment in time, I think this should be fast.

1271
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:44,020
And I want to offer that we do 7.3 real quick

1272
02:03:44,020 --> 02:03:50,170
before we do the 6.9.

1273
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:53,010
We've already had the discussion.

1274
02:03:53,950 --> 02:03:55,670
So Ms. Judd, if we can take up your item,

1275
02:03:55,830 --> 02:03:57,630
while you're still here, 7.3.

1276
02:03:58,350 --> 02:04:00,190
Consideration, a resolution, an MOU to create

1277
02:04:00,190 --> 02:04:02,130
the Lake County Regional Housing Trust Fund.

1278
02:04:02,130 --> 02:04:04,010
I'll see our HTF and be

1279
02:04:04,010 --> 02:04:05,770
consideration, a direction to staff regarding

1280
02:04:05,770 --> 02:04:07,710
the allocation, remaining permanent local

1281
02:04:07,710 --> 02:04:10,930
housing allocation, PLHA, program funds

1282
02:04:10,930 --> 02:04:13,370
for the Lake County Regional Housing Trust Fund for

1283
02:04:13,370 --> 02:04:17,290
Here's 2021, 2022 and 2023, Mr.

1284
02:04:21,670 --> 02:04:27,050
Hello, again, staff would like to request the board to approve the creation of the Lake County

1285
02:04:27,050 --> 02:04:32,650
Regional Housing Trust Fund via the resolution and memorandum of understanding between the

1286
02:04:32,650 --> 02:04:35,010
County of Lake Lakeport and Clear Lake.

1287
02:04:35,630 --> 02:04:40,810
The housing action implementation plan and the regional housing needs assessment, Rina, are both

1288
02:04:40,810 --> 02:04:46,990
regional approaches to addressing housing needs in Lake County, therefore it follows that the housing

1289
02:04:46,990 --> 02:04:51,830
trust fund should also be a regional level to promote greater collaboration and pulling

1290
02:04:51,830 --> 02:04:57,090
of resources to address critical housing needs that encompass the entirety of Lake County.

1291
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:31,240
My apologies. So what I wanted to bring forward today is the MOU and the resolution. In part of that, it does reference the administrative guidelines in that.

1292
02:05:31,620 --> 02:05:40,440
And I do have a draft of those prepared. However, they were not submitted with that. This, this board would not actually approve the administrative guidelines.

1293
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:48,600
It would be with the housing trust fund, however, because those documents do reference the administrative guidelines.

1294
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,280
I'd like to request for a continuance until next week.

1295
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:54,600
And do we have a time certain or

1296
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:56,200
Johanna?

1297
02:06:02,610 --> 02:06:04,710
3 p.m. on the 17th?

1298
02:06:05,010 --> 02:06:08,190
And if that's what we have available, then so be it.

1299
02:06:08,930 --> 02:06:09,110
All right.

1300
02:06:09,250 --> 02:06:11,510
Let's open it up for public comment on this item.

1301
02:06:11,590 --> 02:06:14,630
Again, regarding the continuation of the item.

1302
02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:16,590
See, no hands in zoom.

1303
02:06:16,650 --> 02:06:17,550
No moving in the chamber.

1304
02:06:17,650 --> 02:06:21,330
Looking for a motion to continue this to December 17th.

1305
02:06:21,570 --> 02:06:22,530
3 p.m.

1306
02:06:22,530 --> 02:06:25,610
We have a motion and a second.

1307
02:06:25,770 --> 02:06:26,230
All in favor.

1308
02:06:26,750 --> 02:06:28,950
I, any opposed, motion carries.

1309
02:06:31,090 --> 02:06:31,150
I.

1310
02:06:31,150 --> 02:06:32,770
Any opposed, motion carries.

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02:06:33,590 --> 02:06:34,070
Thank you.

1312
02:06:34,130 --> 02:06:34,930
Thank you very much.

1313
02:06:35,230 --> 02:06:36,330
We'll see this next week.

1314
02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:38,050
All right.

1315
02:06:38,190 --> 02:06:40,190
Then we will go back to our 11 a.m.

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02:06:40,190 --> 02:06:41,750
Item 6.9.

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02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:43,330
Sitting as the Board of Directors,

1318
02:06:43,570 --> 02:06:45,190
Lake County Watershed Protection District,

1319
02:06:45,850 --> 02:06:46,750
Presentation Update.

1320
02:06:46,750 --> 02:06:47,850
Your timing was impeccable.

1321
02:06:48,490 --> 02:06:51,430
Update on recent invasive golden muscle detection

1322
02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:57,330
in the San Joaquin Delta and state regional and local response and management actions to date.

1323
02:06:57,810 --> 02:07:02,890
And we have director Bora from Special Districts and Angela Dow from Water Resources.

1324
02:07:05,570 --> 02:07:07,270
You always have handouts.

1325
02:07:19,410 --> 02:07:23,370
We have no other questions so you can fill out the break.

1326
02:07:24,230 --> 02:07:25,350
Thank you.

1327
02:07:25,810 --> 02:07:26,250
Thank you.

1328
02:07:26,590 --> 02:07:28,650
That's me Dan for keeping it for a minute.

1329
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:35,040
Oh, I know.

1330
02:07:38,610 --> 02:07:39,470
We need five minutes.

1331
02:08:02,540 --> 02:08:08,440
We all fear the updates you never know what's going to happen on the when you're software updates.

1332
02:08:27,380 --> 02:08:28,620
Is it on the usb

1333
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,660
it is he I sent it liquid file

1334
02:08:34,420 --> 02:08:35,400
Right now

1335
02:08:42,380 --> 02:08:44,780
We need to make you a panelist

1336
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:49,210
Well, thank you for having me bored while

1337
02:08:49,850 --> 02:08:52,870
Joanna is working her magic to get the

1338
02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:58,870
Powerpoint up. I just wanted to say that I'll be presenting today on the late county base of Golden Muscle update

1339
02:08:59,610 --> 02:09:03,130
As part of the Watershed for the District of Water Resource Department, I'm Angela Dupalma

1340
02:09:03,130 --> 02:09:03,550
Dau.

1341
02:09:03,550 --> 02:09:10,250
I am the Invasive Species Program Coordinator for our department, and I don't have a

1342
02:09:10,250 --> 02:09:13,730
super short PowerPoint for you because this is the first time that you guys are hearing

1343
02:09:13,730 --> 02:09:17,870
a lot about the Golden Muscle and the first time the public will be hearing about it from

1344
02:09:17,870 --> 02:09:19,010
a late county perspective.

1345
02:09:19,790 --> 02:09:25,470
We do have a website, if anybody wants to visit that, and the PowerPoint I'm presenting today

1346
02:09:25,470 --> 02:09:26,970
is going to be on our website.

1347
02:09:27,910 --> 02:09:29,410
It is on there right now.

1348
02:09:29,550 --> 02:09:31,990
So if you go to Lake County Water Resources

1349
02:09:32,590 --> 02:09:35,750
under the invasive muscle tab on the left,

1350
02:09:35,870 --> 02:09:37,250
there's a Golden Muscle webpage

1351
02:09:37,250 --> 02:09:39,510
and this PowerPoint will be presented to there.

1352
02:09:39,730 --> 02:09:43,170
And I did want to shout out to our ramp monitor staff.

1353
02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:45,070
There's a bunch in the audience today

1354
02:09:45,670 --> 02:09:47,490
and they are the front line.

1355
02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:49,390
So we have a current Quagga invasive,

1356
02:09:49,390 --> 02:09:53,410
an invasive Quagga zebra muscle program in place here.

1357
02:09:53,410 --> 02:09:59,950
Yeah, a clear lake and there's a lake county and the rant monitor staff is vital for

1358
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:15,160
So being the first line in the last line of defense, people travel, sometimes hundreds, thousands of miles to come fishing in our world-class lake, and sometimes the first person they see in the last person they see before they get on the lake when they get on the lake is our rampometer staff.

1359
02:10:15,700 --> 02:10:17,320
So they are essential to this program.

1360
02:10:21,230 --> 02:10:22,590
The whole PowerPoint, are you okay, Robin?

1361
02:10:23,970 --> 02:10:28,990
And then Robin, if you just want to just yourself, she's special districts in here to support the program.

1362
02:10:28,990 --> 02:10:45,310
Yeah, I'm Robin Borey with a special districts and we have three different lake intake structures where we provide potable water and water to the guisers. So we're especially interested in this and how it could get through the screens and

1363
02:10:45,310 --> 02:10:49,030
clogs things up and that kind of stuff. So I'm here to support her.

1364
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:57,850
And I will say that in the board, there is a fact sheet provided to anybody who would like to look at it that's in chambers and we will have that posted on our website as well.

1365
02:10:58,250 --> 02:11:08,670
So here's our Ram Outer staff on the screen. Again, this program only works because they do and we are just invaluable service to this lake and to this program.

1366
02:11:09,530 --> 02:11:19,550
And just today, we're going to talk about what we know about Golden Mussels, what we don't know, what we think. So the perspective of water resources as the bestowed lake managers here for the county for clear lake.

1367
02:11:19,550 --> 02:11:23,530
I have some specific asks for the Board of Supervisors, Board of Directors, and the Public,

1368
02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:30,390
and then briefly some next steps. So here we have examples of the of the Quagas-Ebr muscles.

1369
02:11:30,650 --> 02:11:36,430
These are the ones that are currently been the focus of our prevention efforts here,

1370
02:11:36,450 --> 02:11:41,250
both in the state of California, and also in Clear Lake on the left. You guys can see,

1371
02:11:41,450 --> 02:11:46,150
they have stripes, they look like kind of zebra as that's their name, and then golden muscles on the right.

1372
02:11:46,150 --> 02:11:49,550
So, similar in size, similar in shape, golden muscles,

1373
02:11:49,850 --> 02:11:51,390
like their namesake have like this ear

1374
02:11:51,390 --> 02:11:54,670
doesn't shine to them, in their hands named golden muscles.

1375
02:11:54,930 --> 02:11:57,290
They can colonize hard and soft surfaces.

1376
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:59,910
A key point of this, and this is the science.

1377
02:12:00,270 --> 02:12:01,850
This is a technical background.

1378
02:12:02,310 --> 02:12:05,190
The quagazira muscles are in the dorsina, genus,

1379
02:12:05,530 --> 02:12:06,950
and the golden muscles are the limp, no para.

1380
02:12:07,250 --> 02:12:08,570
So, they're completely different organism,

1381
02:12:08,750 --> 02:12:10,610
not related at all, which makes management

1382
02:12:10,610 --> 02:12:12,110
and response a little difficult.

1383
02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:14,370
This is the quagazira muscle map.

1384
02:12:14,370 --> 02:12:16,710
board, you were shown this, I believe, in 2020.

1385
02:12:17,490 --> 02:12:22,350
One, and this is the rate of expansion of Quagazever muscles

1386
02:12:22,350 --> 02:12:23,630
across the United States.

1387
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:26,190
So starting in the 80s, until present day,

1388
02:12:26,290 --> 02:12:28,570
you can see they've moved from the Luritian Great Lakes,

1389
02:12:28,750 --> 02:12:30,010
all the way across to the West.

1390
02:12:30,610 --> 02:12:31,990
We have 40 years of information.

1391
02:12:32,610 --> 02:12:34,590
Quagazever muscles here in North America.

1392
02:12:35,490 --> 02:12:37,730
Compared to the current distribution of golden muscles

1393
02:12:37,730 --> 02:12:40,730
in North America, is here in the Delta in California.

1394
02:12:41,110 --> 02:12:43,030
It isn't found nowhere else in the United States.

1395
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:48,230
We don't have information about how this species interacts in North American freshwater systems.

1396
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:57,200
Specifically, Golden Muscle's are found in the San Joaquin Delta in October by the California Department of Water Resources.

1397
02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:01,120
And every week, they're having some more detections come up.

1398
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:06,280
So the map on the bottom right is a close-up of the area of the Delta where they're found.

1399
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:11,580
And just in the last few weeks, some of those dots have gone from blue to red, blue meeting they've done.

1400
02:13:11,580 --> 02:13:16,160
monitoring and then red being confirmed adult locations being found.

1401
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,340
So from our perspective, as managed with the lake, we're considering the entire Delta

1402
02:13:20,340 --> 02:13:23,280
at this point kind of being infested with these species.

1403
02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:28,040
And to give you some reference, the Delta is located about 150 miles from Clear Lake

1404
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:30,040
at some of the earliest launch areas.

1405
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:36,860
This is a great map that was provided by our partners at Colorado Park's

1406
02:13:36,860 --> 02:13:42,360
Park's department, so the Colorado State Park's department, they have a digital database called

1407
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:44,080
the watercraft inspection database.

1408
02:13:44,620 --> 02:13:49,140
Our rent monitors currently use the state of base to check when boats are coming in from

1409
02:13:49,140 --> 02:13:54,640
out of county out of state if they've come from an infested water body for quagas e-remusals.

1410
02:13:55,380 --> 02:14:04,980
The Colorado database has since added golden muscle locations into their program and they

1411
02:14:04,980 --> 02:14:11,640
Their boat inspections are put into the database and their last visited water body.

1412
02:14:12,300 --> 02:14:17,280
So the origin point you can see in the center there is the delta and then each line represents

1413
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:24,100
either about 10 or 10 to 50 or more than 50 boats traveling to a location and then getting

1414
02:14:24,100 --> 02:14:25,980
entered into the Colorado database.

1415
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:30,540
And what you can see is clear lake is listed for as having the fourth most amount of boats

1416
02:14:30,540 --> 02:14:33,140
coming from the delta at 148.

1417
02:14:33,140 --> 02:14:36,500
like various of being the top one there and then like Tahoe.

1418
02:14:37,820 --> 02:14:40,520
So it just kind of shows you the boat traffic that comes from the Delta.

1419
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:44,840
Temporal context, not everybody's from California or gets around that much.

1420
02:14:44,940 --> 02:14:49,080
I just wanted to show you if someone was to drive and they're leaving a boat ramp in the Delta

1421
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:51,900
and they're coming to clear like that's kind of what the map would look like.

1422
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:53,000
It's about a two-hour drive.

1423
02:14:53,540 --> 02:14:59,980
Currently, the closest public access or open access quagas, the remusseln-fested lake is...

1424
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,980
7 hours away in Southern California. So that's a big difference, especially in like a warm July day of how much water

1425
02:15:05,980 --> 02:15:13,280
sitting in the boat where there could be muscles living in the transportation times. Little alone in the winter when there's lots of rain and it's cool.

1426
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:24,780
So what do we know about these so far? This is a great article from science that talks about the golden muscle invasion that's occurring right now in Brazil.

1427
02:15:25,580 --> 02:15:31,660
And this is showing kind of where they're from and how they move trance across the ocean.

1428
02:15:32,340 --> 02:15:38,700
So they are from Southeast Asia area and they were moved by ship over the ocean to Brazil.

1429
02:15:39,420 --> 02:15:43,520
And they've been there since the 90s and here's a little map of their spread.

1430
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:48,940
So this is where they are now and so this is where if we're going to learn anything about management and impacts.

1431
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:51,360
This is the area that we're going to get that information from.

1432
02:15:51,360 --> 02:15:59,300
The little graph on the left shows you that between 1991 and 1995, they colonize a space of two square meters,

1433
02:15:59,700 --> 02:16:04,520
up to about 150,000 individuals. So it's pretty significant in their colonization rate.

1434
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:10,140
They attach on to substrates and then they reduce and they just show like that picture is right there.

1435
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:12,720
They just totally colonize the whole area.

1436
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:19,480
So the state of California is indicated they are looking to programs that are going on in the Amazon area in Brazil

1437
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:22,560
in order to manage and combat golden muscles.

1438
02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:25,020
So what can the muscles do?

1439
02:16:25,260 --> 02:16:27,000
Well, the juveniles are free swimming,

1440
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:29,100
so they can go anywhere where there's a current,

1441
02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:31,860
settle, and then they can attach and turn into adults.

1442
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:34,820
They can't go upstream, so they can't swim up currents.

1443
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:37,900
Adults can settle on softer hard substrate,

1444
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:41,540
so they can settle in muck, sand, and also onto pilings

1445
02:16:41,540 --> 02:16:43,280
and dock infrastructure.

1446
02:16:44,460 --> 02:16:47,220
And then according to the state, the Department of Water Resources,

1447
02:16:47,220 --> 02:16:51,620
is a dulcer slightly mobile which is a lot different than other muscles, so they cleared a

1448
02:16:51,620 --> 02:16:55,180
piling and then three days later they saw us on a dulcer that had moved up that piling.

1449
02:16:55,740 --> 02:16:58,100
So that is pretty scary for these guys.

1450
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:02,800
And just like quagas either muscles they do filter feed and so this means they'll compete

1451
02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:05,920
with all our sport fisheries for green algae as food.

1452
02:17:06,540 --> 02:17:07,880
So what can they do?

1453
02:17:08,180 --> 02:17:14,440
The estimates from Brazil has indicated in some power plants, it cost about 20,000 a day to

1454
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:18,720
operation maintenance. Here's an example of one of those pipes. It's about a foot wide pipe to

1455
02:17:18,720 --> 02:17:22,960
move water through a power plant that they have to scrape and clean. And this is not even

1456
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:28,520
including drinking water, you know, treatments and products that also might be impacted here.

1457
02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:33,840
In the lab, they've shown that they're resistant to some diseases, also some industry treatments.

1458
02:17:34,340 --> 02:17:39,440
They can withstand brackish, saltier waters. They've been shown to survive in fish guts. I

1459
02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:43,440
know, this is getting bad as we keep going on the list here. And they do not have any

1460
02:17:43,440 --> 02:17:47,720
natural enemies in native areas. So there are some predator fish in some

1461
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:50,820
introduced areas but again if you have a bunch of fish that are eating these and

1462
02:17:50,820 --> 02:17:53,820
they can survive in their fish guts then that means they're just moved around

1463
02:17:53,820 --> 02:17:58,540
the water body or they could be the potentials there. Can they survive in

1464
02:17:58,540 --> 02:18:02,420
Clear Lake based on the conditions that are here in Clear Lake? Yes, they can. So

1465
02:18:02,420 --> 02:18:07,220
this is a table that was provided by CDFW during one of our task force meetings

1466
02:18:07,220 --> 02:18:12,400
a couple weeks ago and what it's just showing you is the survivability establishment

1467
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:17,240
potential on the left column, whether it's highly likely that'll establish or very low,

1468
02:18:18,180 --> 02:18:23,760
and they made this table for both adults and for the juveniles, and so all these parameters

1469
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:28,800
and calcium fit. Clearly, as high calcium, we definitely would be a nice house for them.

1470
02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:35,260
Solinity, we have less than two salinity, so again, they do, however, can withstand some higher

1471
02:18:35,260 --> 02:18:40,540
salinity for a couple hours, and then the temperature ranges exactly what we get and they've been

1472
02:18:40,540 --> 02:18:45,380
in frozen areas and then they're in the Amazon so they like warm water also, which we also have here in

1473
02:18:45,380 --> 02:18:50,480
clear lake. What I did want to show you specifically in point out is the constant salinity on the

1474
02:18:50,480 --> 02:18:56,160
left, which can range from 2 to 5 for high to low survivability and the variable salinity which means

1475
02:18:56,160 --> 02:19:02,290
a flash. So just dunking something in salt water for a couple hours if it's up to 23 parts per

1476
02:19:02,980 --> 02:19:09,240
truly, truly in for salt water is not going to be susceptible to make these guys susceptible. So again,

1477
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:14,700
And here's that map I showed on the left, which is the Golden Muscle current detections we have from fish and wildlife.

1478
02:19:15,420 --> 02:19:18,180
This is a salinity map of the Delta on the right.

1479
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:24,280
So there are some areas here within the Delta closer to the bay that are very high in salinity.

1480
02:19:24,440 --> 02:19:27,160
So we're not expecting there to be potential there for them to live.

1481
02:19:27,460 --> 02:19:31,720
But you can see areas that are well within the range for the salinity of these.

1482
02:19:32,220 --> 02:19:38,580
So it's just really, again, to hone in on the wide area of the aquatic zone down there in the Delta,

1483
02:19:38,580 --> 02:19:40,340
where these guys can potentially spread.

1484
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:43,460
The black dots in the map on the right are not muscles.

1485
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:45,300
Those are delta-smelt family locations

1486
02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:46,480
is just for the map purposes.

1487
02:19:49,530 --> 02:19:50,950
So some good news, what we know.

1488
02:19:52,390 --> 02:19:53,730
They are sensitive to hot water.

1489
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:57,850
So any decontamination practices that we employ right here

1490
02:19:57,850 --> 02:19:59,970
on the right, you can see some rank monitors or decont...

1491
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:12,840
So, one guy will hold a hot water wands, and then somebody else will have a little temperature gauge. They hold over the water to make sure the water is reaching the temperature that will kill them at 120 degrees Fahrenheit.

1492
02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:24,300
They can't desecate within 10 days. So, the messaging for clean drain dry, your boat is still very important practice that we still are going to be communicating to everybody.

1493
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:31,120
And then there is some sensitivity to low oxygen environments based on some lab experiments and some field observations.

1494
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:35,660
Unfortunately, clearly, it's really low dissolved oxygen in the summer.

1495
02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:42,600
We get some zones in the lower arm, the upper, or the lower arm in the oaks arm that gets a pleaded of oxygen.

1496
02:20:42,740 --> 02:20:44,600
That's why we have some cyanobacteria issues.

1497
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:52,300
Unfortunately, those conditions might have a negative effect on golden muscles if they're introduced and established there.

1498
02:20:52,300 --> 02:20:57,860
They do have some sun sensitivity, so they like shadier water areas, so on the part of your

1499
02:20:57,860 --> 02:21:02,780
dock, that's a couple feet down, that's where you would probably see them versus right up

1500
02:21:02,780 --> 02:21:04,920
on the top, closer to the sun.

1501
02:21:05,100 --> 02:21:10,340
This makes it harder to detect, however, if we have some substrates in the water, we're trying

1502
02:21:10,340 --> 02:21:13,220
to check to see if they're colonizing, they have to be pretty submerged in the water.

1503
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:15,820
And some fish and crabs like to eat them.

1504
02:21:15,960 --> 02:21:19,720
One of the species that likes them is common cart, which we have a lot in clear lake.

1505
02:21:19,940 --> 02:21:21,100
We're trying to get rid of them.

1506
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:25,420
But here you see this invasive beneficial relationship with two invasive.

1507
02:21:27,500 --> 02:21:30,260
We do not have Golden Muscles in Lake County right now.

1508
02:21:30,660 --> 02:21:33,220
Here's our technician Cory going out and sampling.

1509
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,740
We have substrates that so these square plates around the lake.

1510
02:21:36,880 --> 02:21:38,600
There's about 16 locations.

1511
02:21:39,560 --> 02:21:41,040
Every month we sample them.

1512
02:21:41,140 --> 02:21:41,720
We scrape them off.

1513
02:21:41,860 --> 02:21:42,360
We clean them.

1514
02:21:42,400 --> 02:21:43,700
We note anything that's on there.

1515
02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:45,920
And we do not have any muscles on any of the plates.

1516
02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:49,200
So we're going to keep vigilant on monitoring these plates.

1517
02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:55,420
Maybe increase the monitoring as we go into the winter season with this new threat of golden muscles and

1518
02:21:56,640 --> 02:22:02,980
So so far so good for that. We do other monthly monitoring. We look at shorelines. We look at rocks

1519
02:22:02,980 --> 02:22:09,640
We look at buoy lines. We got meant is buoy we pulled the lines we look at the line. Those are prime places where these muscles can establish and settle

1520
02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:11,560
Don't have any muscles there yet

1521
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:15,140
CDFW is developing a protocol to do

1522
02:22:15,140 --> 02:22:21,920
micro-scoppy infrared imaging for the villagers or the juveniles of the Golden Muscles.

1523
02:22:22,140 --> 02:22:26,200
They do not have a developed yet. We are still collecting samples and sending it to them.

1524
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:28,640
And so they'll be able to detect those juveniles and water bodies.

1525
02:22:28,940 --> 02:22:30,580
They do that now for zebra-quack of muscles.

1526
02:22:31,420 --> 02:22:35,020
Can I pause you for one second if you can go back to the previous slide?

1527
02:22:35,740 --> 02:22:43,540
Just to make sure that we talk about the zebra muscle villagers on that that is just a sample picture.

1528
02:22:43,540 --> 02:22:46,540
would look like if we found any.

1529
02:22:46,940 --> 02:22:52,080
Yeah, so the villagers, you can't see them to the naked eye, they're microscopic, and they require a special

1530
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:57,440
dye and imaging to be seen, and so there's a certain, there's a special lab in Badega Bay that

1531
02:22:57,440 --> 02:23:03,380
we send our samples to, and they're able to do that procedure for us and let us know if there's any juveniles

1532
02:23:03,380 --> 02:23:07,480
in the lake. So they're developing that specific for gold and muscles because they have a different

1533
02:23:07,480 --> 02:23:12,100
juvenile. So they have to get those juveniles first, put them on the slide, and test what

1534
02:23:12,100 --> 02:23:17,160
and imaging will work to see them, so the image here is just showing what zebra muscle

1535
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:22,240
villagers look like, golden muscle villagers, look pretty similar, but yeah, did

1536
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:26,180
that answer the, it was more to make the statement because the headline on the slide is

1537
02:23:26,180 --> 02:23:29,240
we don't have golden muscle. Right, and then there's, we don't have any muscle.

1538
02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:34,320
We don't have any muscles, that is correct, yes, yes. I wouldn't keep that to myself, I'd

1539
02:23:34,320 --> 02:23:35,380
make sure and share that news.

1540
02:23:37,420 --> 02:23:40,060
Okay, so what we don't know, we don't know the impact

1541
02:23:40,060 --> 02:23:45,280
North American freshwater lakes, freshwater ecosystems, North American fish, we have no idea.

1542
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:50,460
So it's not like we're going blind because we have information from Amazon and we can go

1543
02:23:50,460 --> 02:23:55,420
forward with what we know about other invasive impacts and we can take precautionary measures,

1544
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:56,840
but that isn't unknown.

1545
02:23:57,740 --> 02:24:01,440
We don't know exactly right now what the federal in the state's control treatment or management

1546
02:24:01,440 --> 02:24:06,100
strategy plan is, they're starting to have a task force, they're starting to form committees,

1547
02:24:07,380 --> 02:24:11,800
And they're starting to include the Golden Muscle and some of their regulatory framework.

1548
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:19,520
So we don't know yet what their management strategy plan is going to be if it's going to be really hard and strict or if it's going to be kind of a rollout.

1549
02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:23,940
We don't know when and if a emergency declaration will occur from the states.

1550
02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:28,000
Personally, that would be really helpful for us because we can get more access to funds.

1551
02:24:28,340 --> 02:24:35,380
There'd be clear processes. We feel supported. We have resources, but we don't know if this is going to warrant an emergency declaration on that level or not.

1552
02:24:35,380 --> 02:24:41,860
And I'm just being honest with you as invasive species manager of these are the things I'm thinking about as I'm planning the next few months

1553
02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:48,100
We don't know if the Delta will even be regulated like current quagas ebra muscle water bodies in southern California

1554
02:24:48,100 --> 02:24:58,340
So right now if a water body in southern California has invasive quagas ebra muscles detected and they have to go through a rigorous process to determine if this there are muscles there that are present

1555
02:24:58,340 --> 02:24:59,980
Then they're required to have

1556
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:11,540
Decont inspections when decontamination inspections when boats leave that lake. So boats needed to be decont or they can get a seal so that boat now is basically tagged so it can't go into another water body.

1557
02:25:12,320 --> 02:25:19,920
And we don't know if that'll be put in place for the delta, the delta is huge, so that would be a big lift and we don't know yet what the direction is going to be for that.

1558
02:25:20,580 --> 02:25:26,240
We don't know if there's going to be other closures and pose or quarantines, so currently

1559
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:28,240
Lake Tennessee is closed temporarily.

1560
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:29,520
They're not letting any boats launch.

1561
02:25:29,660 --> 02:25:39,660
New Malena's is closed Lake Bersa has strictly regulated the ramps and they have a 30 day

1562
02:25:39,660 --> 02:25:40,140
quarantine.

1563
02:25:40,420 --> 02:25:45,520
So a boat can come get a tag, come back in 30 days, or they can schedule and get a decontamination,

1564
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:48,480
but right now they're booked out through February March for decontamination.

1565
02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:50,960
so you might as well just get your 30-day quarantine tag.

1566
02:25:51,560 --> 02:25:53,320
Come at you, Regivore, temporarily closed.

1567
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:55,700
They might reopen with similar quarantines.

1568
02:25:56,860 --> 02:25:59,560
These reservoirs don't necessarily have decontamination on site,

1569
02:25:59,580 --> 02:26:01,340
so that's something that's going to have to be.

1570
02:26:01,480 --> 02:26:03,780
If that's an option, they're going to have to figure out how to do that.

1571
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:08,000
So, what, as a manager of Clear Lake, I look at this,

1572
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:12,040
and I get worried because if both can't go to these other nearby water bodies,

1573
02:26:12,080 --> 02:26:14,060
but they want to go fishing, they want to go wakeboarding,

1574
02:26:14,180 --> 02:26:16,400
where they're going to go to a lake that's open.

1575
02:26:16,400 --> 02:26:18,760
And that right now is clear, like.

1576
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:23,620
So is that increasing boating pressure on clear, like, potentially?

1577
02:26:25,020 --> 02:26:25,620
This is...

1578
02:26:25,620 --> 02:26:27,700
It's a pretty quick question, what's more in team look like?

1579
02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:31,380
Like, they park the boat off side and it's monitored for third.

1580
02:26:31,380 --> 02:26:34,140
They put a tag on it, so they put a little tag.

1581
02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:36,440
It's like a seal, it goes around the trailer and the boat.

1582
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:39,340
And so if the boat is launched off the trailer,

1583
02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:41,980
the tag is broken and it can never be reformed.

1584
02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:44,200
So when we know that boat went into a water body,

1585
02:26:44,420 --> 02:26:45,820
it's not safe to launch.

1586
02:26:45,820 --> 02:26:52,680
So they need to keep their boat on their trailer for 30 days out of water and dried and then we know that it's safe to go in the water.

1587
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:59,200
So someone that lives on various and has a boat they're going to do a quarantine because after that they can put their boat, you know, if they live in that area.

1588
02:27:02,270 --> 02:27:08,250
So this is what we think, and this is probably more on the personal level of what I think, but this is water resource kind of perspective.

1589
02:27:09,070 --> 02:27:14,390
A general blanket ramp closure right now, I don't think will prevent a gold and muscle

1590
02:27:14,390 --> 02:27:18,790
introduction, just because our lake is so large.

1591
02:27:19,650 --> 02:27:23,450
And if you take the certified tourism ambassador training, this is one of the test questions.

1592
02:27:23,490 --> 02:27:25,250
How many boat access points are there in clear lake?

1593
02:27:25,290 --> 02:27:29,470
And there's 749 of non-public and public access points.

1594
02:27:29,830 --> 02:27:33,450
So if we tried to close the lake, it would close public ramps.

1595
02:27:33,450 --> 02:27:38,770
And what that would do is just force boat traffic to bypass any of those ramps to other

1596
02:27:38,770 --> 02:27:43,810
access points, and that, therefore, would also bypass any screening inspection or decontamination

1597
02:27:43,810 --> 02:27:48,550
that we have currently in place, and, in my opinion, will increase the probability of

1598
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:49,030
introduction.

1599
02:27:49,790 --> 02:27:55,090
It could generally reduce voting traffic overall, so you might see less, votes coming here,

1600
02:27:57,210 --> 02:28:02,250
But you might see more of the boat traffic again,

1601
02:28:02,410 --> 02:28:06,710
going into other access points and not getting screened that way.

1602
02:28:07,690 --> 02:28:09,470
And the goal of the prevention program has always

1603
02:28:09,470 --> 02:28:12,370
been since 2006 is make it easy, fast, and affordable.

1604
02:28:13,230 --> 02:28:15,530
So boats can get screened and expected to get

1605
02:28:15,530 --> 02:28:16,930
geese contaminated pretty quickly.

1606
02:28:17,290 --> 02:28:18,930
So they're more likely to do it again.

1607
02:28:19,010 --> 02:28:20,270
They're more likely to tell their friends.

1608
02:28:20,450 --> 02:28:21,850
They're more likely to participate in the program.

1609
02:28:21,850 --> 02:28:26,770
make it really easy, a clear pathway for them to comply versus putting up a lot of resistance

1610
02:28:27,350 --> 02:28:32,210
and barriers and then they take, you know, they go around those barriers, which we saw

1611
02:28:32,210 --> 02:28:32,870
during the drought.

1612
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:37,130
So here's an example of a voter just finding a little beach and putting their boat in.

1613
02:28:37,470 --> 02:28:39,030
You know, we had ramps that were closed for the drought.

1614
02:28:39,050 --> 02:28:40,690
They found a way to get their boat in.

1615
02:28:41,010 --> 02:28:42,910
During COVID, we shut down the lake.

1616
02:28:43,090 --> 02:28:44,690
We still had boating activity out there.

1617
02:28:44,750 --> 02:28:49,070
People were still coming here, and because we have so many ramps, it's really, and access

1618
02:28:49,070 --> 02:28:50,670
points, it's really hard to regulate that.

1619
02:28:51,390 --> 02:29:03,430
But we do need some swift upgrades to our invasive muscle prevention program in general, and we really need some financial technical help to do that and do it in a way that makes sense that will actually prevent these muscles from getting into the lake.

1620
02:29:04,270 --> 02:29:08,610
For example, the state and local laws and ordinances are all written specifically for Quacas

1621
02:29:08,610 --> 02:29:09,250
e-remusals.

1622
02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:16,510
So there's no legal framework for me to comply or to enforce Golden Muscle prevention because

1623
02:29:16,510 --> 02:29:18,570
we don't have an ordinance that states that.

1624
02:29:18,890 --> 02:29:21,030
And I provided a copy of my ordinance and highlighted.

1625
02:29:21,330 --> 02:29:24,890
It literally says to sit in muscles like Quacas e-remusals throughout the whole document.

1626
02:29:26,750 --> 02:29:28,030
This is the same at the state too.

1627
02:29:28,150 --> 02:29:31,950
So they're taking actions to update their legal framework to include Golden Muscles.

1628
02:29:31,950 --> 02:29:34,990
so they have abilities to enforce actions

1629
02:29:34,990 --> 02:29:36,450
and put in management measures.

1630
02:29:37,690 --> 02:29:40,150
Another example, we have some specific plans

1631
02:29:40,700 --> 02:29:43,130
for muscle prevention and management and response.

1632
02:29:43,750 --> 02:29:45,350
They are all specific to caucus e-bremusals.

1633
02:29:45,610 --> 02:29:46,630
So these are going to be updated.

1634
02:29:47,410 --> 02:29:49,610
The plan on the left is available on Web site.

1635
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:52,150
So that's the late county caucus e-bremusals prevention plan.

1636
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:54,630
That was due to be updated this year anyways.

1637
02:29:54,730 --> 02:29:57,530
I had plans to update it's been five years since 2019.

1638
02:29:57,790 --> 02:29:59,150
I last updated it.

1639
02:29:59,450 --> 02:29:59,950
So this is a perfect.

1640
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:27,040
Time, but it does take a lot of time and research and resources for me to be able to do that. And then we just were in the final stage of preparing our crew, like integrated preparedness, resilience plan for decided muscle. So in case we got muscles in the lake or quag a muscles, what would we do, what would be our steps, how would we implement ICS and emergency measures. And so this is all written with quag and zebra muscles in mind.

1641
02:30:27,580 --> 02:30:33,960
We're very grateful that our contractors on this have decided to help us out pro bono and update this for golden muscles.

1642
02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:36,220
So we're really, really grateful.

1643
02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:44,280
A protected clear lake is a protected western US and they recognize that and they're willing to help us and put in the work and do that for this document and for the plans for us.

1644
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:49,640
So what we've done so far is we've created release press release.

1645
02:30:49,640 --> 02:30:53,320
In fact sheet, we've created and shared posts online.

1646
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:55,260
We've collaborated to regional partners.

1647
02:30:55,460 --> 02:30:59,980
I've had some in-person meetings with some of the Tahoe folks at a conference and

1648
02:30:59,980 --> 02:31:07,300
bit on the phone and meetings with the Buriesa Solano County Water Agency folks.

1649
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:10,380
We've been Itex with the muscle dogs all the time.

1650
02:31:10,520 --> 02:31:14,860
So muscle dogs are canine sniffing dogs or mussels sniffing canines.

1651
02:31:15,460 --> 02:31:28,880
Okay, anyways, anyways, they got some golden muscles and they're going to be trained in about a week officially, I think actually they got certified yesterday, so all their muscles on staff can now sniff out adult golden muscles.

1652
02:31:29,460 --> 02:31:34,060
So we have muscle dogs here, they're going to be able to sniff out any boats with adult golden muscles on them.

1653
02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:42,820
They're working on juveniles, they have to get some isolated juveniles and DNA of golden muscles and then they can train them on that, but they're a pretty quick study and they're amazing.

1654
02:31:43,740 --> 02:31:47,300
And we did attend the Fish and Wildlife for the California Department of Fish and Wildlife

1655
02:31:47,300 --> 02:31:51,640
Golden Muscle Task Force meeting, and then Clear Lake, along with some regional water

1656
02:31:51,640 --> 02:31:55,740
body managers are joined, or part of the CDFW Regional Partners Subcommittee.

1657
02:31:56,400 --> 02:32:00,460
So we can really communicate straight with the state managers about things that are concerning

1658
02:32:00,460 --> 02:32:03,700
us, what we need, and how we can go forward with this.

1659
02:32:04,980 --> 02:32:09,300
What else we've done is we've increased some screening, inspection, and decontamination requirements

1660
02:32:09,300 --> 02:32:10,760
for visiting voters from the Delta.

1661
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:16,200
I'm sure all my ramp monitors here can can attest to that they've had to work a little bit more this time of year

1662
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:21,720
to make sure these boats are safe, but we do have limited staff and annual hours make this difficult.

1663
02:32:22,220 --> 02:32:29,420
So our ramp monitor staff is all part-time staff at 900 hours a year and usually around Thanksgiving through March

1664
02:32:29,420 --> 02:32:35,440
they get some time off. There's some limited hours, but it's the off season. So we do some some decons inspections

1665
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:37,700
but we don't get a whole lot of boat traffic

1666
02:32:37,700 --> 02:32:43,040
And it's been really difficult because if they work more now, doing decons now, that means

1667
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:48,160
come April May June, they have less hours to work, and that's when we're going to get a

1668
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:49,280
lot more boat traffic, too.

1669
02:32:49,700 --> 02:32:52,880
So I'm really having a hard time struggling with how to make sure I have enough staff

1670
02:32:52,880 --> 02:32:59,060
time to respond right now to these boats coming from the Delta, and then also planning for the

1671
02:32:59,060 --> 02:32:59,880
next six months.

1672
02:33:00,860 --> 02:33:07,220
We did submit a can grant to admin for emergency stop-gap program funding, and so I sent a

1673
02:33:07,220 --> 02:33:13,780
proposal to Steven and talking with him about those funds that we need and talked provided

1674
02:33:13,780 --> 02:33:19,820
it to our supervisor, Poorn Pied today about what this program needs right now to start putting

1675
02:33:19,820 --> 02:33:24,800
some things in place to kind of prepare for Golden Muscle Prevention and any management

1676
02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:25,480
that's needed.

1677
02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:29,520
And just as a clarification, can Grant as the cannabis grants that we've been providing

1678
02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:32,200
through cannabis tax dollars that we've collected?

1679
02:33:32,960 --> 02:33:34,640
Yep, thank you for that for clarifying.

1680
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:36,640
I'm acronym, please ask me an acronym,

1681
02:33:36,860 --> 02:33:38,280
so you can go from my acronyms.

1682
02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:42,280
And that is, we'll talk about it.

1683
02:33:42,880 --> 02:33:45,020
We did add the GoldenMuscle website that I talked about.

1684
02:33:45,240 --> 02:33:47,680
So if you go to our website, the tab on the left of the bottom,

1685
02:33:47,780 --> 02:33:49,280
we have new GoldenMuscle website.

1686
02:33:49,900 --> 02:33:52,380
And the slides today are part of their,

1687
02:33:52,380 --> 02:33:54,400
part of this website under resources and links.

1688
02:34:00,150 --> 02:34:03,250
So our ask today for the board is to,

1689
02:34:03,310 --> 02:34:04,590
we don't have any letters today,

1690
02:34:04,590 --> 02:34:11,150
But we will probably be in the process of writing some letters of requests or recommendations

1691
02:34:11,150 --> 02:34:14,870
or comment letters to the state or other partner agencies or groups.

1692
02:34:15,190 --> 02:34:19,750
As we move forward with trying to figure out how we prevent managed golden muscles.

1693
02:34:20,810 --> 02:34:24,910
And so we're just asking you that to be aware of that coming on the periphery, we might

1694
02:34:24,910 --> 02:34:28,950
ask you a review and approve some letters on behalf of the county of Lake in order for us

1695
02:34:28,950 --> 02:34:32,610
to best limit spread, raise awareness and cooperate with regional water bodies.

1696
02:34:32,610 --> 02:34:35,370
and have maybe direct ass from the state.

1697
02:34:36,790 --> 02:34:44,130
Again, we submitted a canned grant, so if you could support them in your budget request for that grant that stop get funds for this program,

1698
02:34:44,970 --> 02:34:50,950
I have a slide next that I'll actually show the table, so I don't have to go through all of these.

1699
02:34:51,790 --> 02:34:58,030
But the original tent of the canned grants was to protect water quality, environmental needs,

1700
02:34:58,130 --> 02:34:59,970
and we strongly feel this request meets that shark.

1701
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:13,000
But just know that, to date, we haven't received, for quack a muscle, prevention programs, and muscle prevention programs, it's all been grant funded or funded by local muscle sticker funds.

1702
02:35:14,020 --> 02:35:20,680
And so we haven't come yet to the board or the general fund to request any funds or resources to maintain this program to date.

1703
02:35:21,320 --> 02:35:24,880
And the intent would still be going forward, applying for grants.

1704
02:35:24,880 --> 02:35:32,040
Proposition 4 has been passed. There's a lot of money there. I would not be surprised if the state allocates a significant part of that to do golden muscle

1705
02:35:32,500 --> 02:35:37,780
Response and prevention and we're going to work really hard to get our birth cut of that. So

1706
02:35:37,780 --> 02:35:43,080
We're not going to ignore grants outside of the county from now on. This is just to help us provide some

1707
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:52,460
Sustainability in our planning as we go forward to to manage this issue. So we have some funds in there for our internal project management

1708
02:35:52,460 --> 02:35:54,840
And we can spread those costs over some other grants.

1709
02:35:55,680 --> 02:36:01,180
We are asking for another full-time position allocation to help us particularly with doing

1710
02:36:01,180 --> 02:36:05,800
decons on, you know, when our ramp monitors are on the ramps and inspecting boats.

1711
02:36:06,420 --> 02:36:07,960
We need decontamination support.

1712
02:36:08,500 --> 02:36:11,800
We need somebody's available full-time to go around the lake and provide support for vendors

1713
02:36:12,500 --> 02:36:13,820
and our staff.

1714
02:36:14,320 --> 02:36:16,360
We have to continue monitoring.

1715
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:21,700
We really want to get signs, billboards out on the highways for people coming on the highways

1716
02:36:21,700 --> 02:36:27,860
They know what's expected with the local sticker prevention and muscle prevention program, and these signs are really darn expensive.

1717
02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:37,940
So that's what that 50,000 cost is there for that line item, as well as producing other education supplies and materials that are right now all based on Quagazir muscle.

1718
02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:51,680
We have had talks with a consulting firm that does treatments on invasive muscles and invasive plants to kind of get their perspective on

1719
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:55,640
and what it would take to kind of start investigating some treatments,

1720
02:36:55,680 --> 02:36:59,820
potential treatments, particularly because we have so many drinking water systems on the lake.

1721
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:05,340
If we find muscles in one area, and there's a treatment option from a chemical that's already

1722
02:37:05,340 --> 02:37:10,460
allowed to be used in California and has been used on our lake for other uses, if that's an effective

1723
02:37:10,460 --> 02:37:13,520
method, then that's something we want to have ready to go and know a fiddle work.

1724
02:37:14,200 --> 02:37:18,240
So, I've kind of talked with those conversations and have some labs that I'm going to contact,

1725
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:21,240
but we need a little bit of matching contributions

1726
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:23,280
to be able to really put something on the table

1727
02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:24,620
if that's something we're interested in.

1728
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:25,840
And of course, we'd work with partners,

1729
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:27,620
such as like special districts or other water

1730
02:37:27,620 --> 02:37:30,000
perverts, to make sure those treatments

1731
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:32,440
would be usable in a drinking water system.

1732
02:37:32,620 --> 02:37:37,220
And that is part of the prevention plan for Quagamusals, too.

1733
02:37:38,620 --> 02:37:41,100
And then continue muscle dog inspection services.

1734
02:37:41,560 --> 02:37:43,740
And then one thing that we wanted to do

1735
02:37:43,740 --> 02:37:46,200
when we've talked it over with public services,

1736
02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:52,240
public services and parks is the new park out there by the roundabout on Highway 20, Highway 53,

1737
02:37:53,240 --> 02:37:58,120
is a great place for a permanent decontamination station. So any boats coming into the county

1738
02:37:58,120 --> 02:38:04,040
can get deconted and then they're safe to launch anywhere in Clear Lake. And so we need to start

1739
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:12,660
planning and permitting for something like that and what that would entail and so that's that

1740
02:38:12,660 --> 02:38:19,440
just so remarkable to have this facility there, and so we just need some resources to investigate

1741
02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:25,380
and start those planning processes. So what can the public do? Get your boat screen and sticker

1742
02:38:25,380 --> 02:38:29,900
up even if you're going anywhere near the Delta. Just go through the process again if you're a

1743
02:38:29,900 --> 02:38:34,700
resident, if you're a visitor, we put stickers on either side of the boat and on the trailer.

1744
02:38:35,500 --> 02:38:40,340
Anybody can see if the stickers are current, so the year stickers will have the current year on

1745
02:38:40,340 --> 02:38:45,420
there. 25 stickers have already gone out. And then they'll have a month sticker on there with

1746
02:38:45,420 --> 02:38:49,940
a little blue and white seal. And if you're coming from the Delta, and you just want to

1747
02:38:49,940 --> 02:38:54,100
be proactive, you can call us ahead and we can schedule your decontamination so you can get

1748
02:38:54,780 --> 02:38:59,480
inspected or deconted on the lake quickly. And then we just really encourage everybody to be

1749
02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:04,480
aware of golden muscles. And of course, still Quag is the remusals that impact on clear

1750
02:39:04,480 --> 02:39:09,900
lake. And we do are probably going to embark on some sort of community outreach tour while

1751
02:39:09,900 --> 02:39:14,220
around the community groups and talk about this about Golden Mussels. I have the Clear Lake

1752
02:39:14,220 --> 02:39:21,100
Bass Master scheduled in January. So that's on the table. We really ask everybody follow signage

1753
02:39:21,100 --> 02:39:24,880
at every water body and coming to the county. You can see the sign on the bottom left. This is

1754
02:39:24,880 --> 02:39:29,820
some of our new signs that posted on Highway 20 as you're coming in to Clear Lake Oaks area. And then

1755
02:39:29,820 --> 02:39:36,780
to clean drain dry every time, all the time, every water body. And if you think you see a golden

1756
02:39:36,780 --> 02:39:39,980
Muscle, even if you're not sure, let us come out and help you.

1757
02:39:40,120 --> 02:39:41,700
We'll take sample of it, we'll take photos.

1758
02:39:42,180 --> 02:39:45,180
You can call us at 7-7-263-344.

1759
02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:47,320
Leave a message at Facebook at Lake County Water.

1760
02:39:47,700 --> 02:39:49,540
You can email us, just get a hold of us.

1761
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:50,500
We'll make it real easy.

1762
02:39:50,700 --> 02:39:53,520
We love to come out and look at whatever you got on your shoreline

1763
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:56,520
or your boat and making sure it's not a golden muscle

1764
02:39:56,520 --> 02:39:57,620
or a zebra quagamussel.

1765
02:39:57,620 --> 02:39:57,740
Oh.

1766
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:12,060
So, the next steps, all of the dependant funding, but this is what I'm focused on, is I want to support my ramp staff, because they are the ones right now keeping our lake free of golden muscles. So, whatever I can do to support them, I want to be here for that.

1767
02:40:12,560 --> 02:40:29,980
And then we need to update our legal framework right away to include golden muscle. Even if this may be in includes increases in citation fines, as a deterrent, I have to talk with a sheriff's office, talk with a board, talk with legal counsel, and see how this can be worked out if this is something that's amenable.

1768
02:40:29,980 --> 02:40:34,780
And then, of course, we're going to continue conducting inspections and decontaminations of the Delta Boats.

1769
02:40:35,500 --> 02:40:40,780
I underline as best we can because we're not going to be able to decont every single Delta Boat that comes into Clear Lake.

1770
02:40:40,780 --> 02:40:44,920
That's just the reality as much as I hate it. We're trying our darn best.

1771
02:40:45,800 --> 02:40:53,120
Continuing communication cooperation with state regional partners really establishing those relationships with our partners and making sure we're on the same page.

1772
02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:56,580
So as a region, we're very strong against this potential threat.

1773
02:40:57,060 --> 02:40:59,380
I'm always looking for funding options.

1774
02:41:00,040 --> 02:41:00,640
It's really hard.

1775
02:41:00,720 --> 02:41:01,920
I can't apply to state grants.

1776
02:41:02,320 --> 02:41:05,900
If in their directives, they don't list the Golden Muscle as something that would be eligible.

1777
02:41:06,540 --> 02:41:10,960
And so we have to kind of wait for that top-down effect to happen from the state.

1778
02:41:12,440 --> 02:41:13,720
And some notes on that.

1779
02:41:14,520 --> 02:41:17,140
So right now, I've reached out to my state grants.

1780
02:41:17,540 --> 02:41:18,820
Because their language specifically,

1781
02:41:18,880 --> 02:41:20,240
Specifies Quag is the brim muscles.

1782
02:41:20,640 --> 02:41:23,980
They will not accept anything we build that's work under Golden Muscles.

1783
02:41:23,980 --> 02:41:26,040
So if I have a tournament that's coming from the Delta

1784
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:29,320
and all my ramp monitors need to do some extra inspections

1785
02:41:29,320 --> 02:41:31,840
and decons, those times that money

1786
02:41:31,840 --> 02:41:34,300
is internally, is it a internal cost?

1787
02:41:34,540 --> 02:41:38,220
We can't build our grants because they legally can't pay

1788
02:41:38,220 --> 02:41:40,260
for that because it's not for zebra quagamussel.

1789
02:41:41,140 --> 02:41:43,400
They are kind of working to remedy this.

1790
02:41:43,640 --> 02:41:44,940
So there's a board meeting,

1791
02:41:45,020 --> 02:41:48,360
or there's a fishing game commission meeting on December 12th,

1792
02:41:48,500 --> 02:41:51,620
where they CDFW is typically going to ask for emergency package

1793
02:41:51,620 --> 02:41:54,280
that will include gold and muscles in state language.

1794
02:41:54,700 --> 02:41:56,620
I don't know how that'll trickle down to all the grants,

1795
02:41:56,740 --> 02:41:57,920
but we're hoping that's the start.

1796
02:41:59,460 --> 02:42:01,520
And so we are running out of internal funding sources.

1797
02:42:01,920 --> 02:42:05,560
We do have some sticker revenue or sticker revenue.

1798
02:42:06,180 --> 02:42:07,340
It's not that much.

1799
02:42:07,820 --> 02:42:10,000
I know one of the first things we might think about is,

1800
02:42:10,020 --> 02:42:11,200
well let's increase sticker prices.

1801
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:14,080
And I would caution that we really need to consider

1802
02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:17,540
and discuss that because if you make it harder again

1803
02:42:17,540 --> 02:42:19,520
for a voter to come here and there's a barrier

1804
02:42:19,520 --> 02:42:21,340
And now they have to pay $50 sticker costs.

1805
02:42:21,740 --> 02:42:24,740
They might go find some other ramp and just drop their boat into the lake.

1806
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:27,680
And we might miss that opportunity to screen them and spec them.

1807
02:42:28,320 --> 02:42:33,220
So we have known we need to increase sticker prices, but we just have to consider the timing

1808
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:34,840
with that.

1809
02:42:35,360 --> 02:42:38,680
These are the references for all the research that have done so far in Quacomussel, a lot

1810
02:42:38,680 --> 02:42:41,460
of these resources are based on Amazon.

1811
02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:43,220
Infestation.

1812
02:42:43,920 --> 02:42:45,200
And with that, I'll take any questions.

1813
02:42:45,440 --> 02:42:48,880
I apologize for the length of this, but I really think it was important to share what

1814
02:42:48,880 --> 02:42:52,140
I know with the board and with the public about this issue.

1815
02:42:52,860 --> 02:42:54,040
Thank you so much for your presentation.

1816
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:58,320
I want to make sure and check in with Director Bore, if you wanted to add anything, any concerns?

1817
02:43:00,520 --> 02:43:06,580
Well, naturally we would be concerned with, you know, any of these getting into our intake systems and into our water supplies.

1818
02:43:07,480 --> 02:43:13,300
I know that, you know, that a large amount of the perveires around full water out of the lake.

1819
02:43:13,300 --> 02:43:18,920
So, if these become evasive and be get into the water system, they will impact the efficiency

1820
02:43:18,920 --> 02:43:23,580
of being able to pull it out and whatever we need to put into the water to make sure

1821
02:43:23,580 --> 02:43:25,560
that the larvae and everything else is killed.

1822
02:43:26,580 --> 02:43:32,920
And we saw one of the slides up to $20,000 a day to try and flush these out through operation

1823
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:37,980
and maintenance of the infrastructure, so that's not something we want to look at increased

1824
02:43:37,980 --> 02:43:38,820
costs.

1825
02:43:38,820 --> 02:43:45,900
I appreciate the presentation, what I really appreciate is that we're always proactive in trying

1826
02:43:45,900 --> 02:43:52,560
to keep these muscles out of the lake and not reactive, not sure if that's the only reason

1827
02:43:52,560 --> 02:43:58,000
why we don't have any in the lake, but it's appreciated all the staff that we have here that

1828
02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:02,840
do all the work at the ramps, checking in on boats, making sure that they're stickered up.

1829
02:44:03,540 --> 02:44:08,220
If we do nothing, that would be foolish of us, especially the impact that way it would

1830
02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:13,660
have not just on the infrastructure but our overall economy as we speak and so I always appreciate

1831
02:44:13,660 --> 02:44:18,700
seeing you guys out there making sure that people are following the rules and appreciate the

1832
02:44:18,700 --> 02:44:23,500
overall water resources perspective on being ahead of this rather than being behind it.

1833
02:44:25,020 --> 02:44:27,320
Any comments? Questions? Yes. Supervisor Pyska.

1834
02:44:29,620 --> 02:44:36,300
Equal parts thorough and terrifying. Thank you, Angela. Sorry, not sorry. I know. Well, I've been waiting

1835
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:42,640
for this presentation because I've been seeing it out there and I appreciate bringing all this

1836
02:44:42,640 --> 02:44:50,600
information to us. So it sounds like to be as proactive as we have been and we want

1837
02:44:50,600 --> 02:44:55,400
to continue to be because honestly anything we do upfront is a fraction of what we have

1838
02:44:55,400 --> 02:44:59,980
to spend to deal with it because if we have the infestation and then have to...

1839
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,280
to quarantine and do all the work on our infrastructure. So, it sounds like this gap from the state with

1840
02:45:06,280 --> 02:45:11,640
the elective emergency, language, grant availability. We're going to have to front load some

1841
02:45:11,640 --> 02:45:20,000
of these asks. And so, are you bringing this to us? Are you thinking that mid-year budget or, okay?

1842
02:45:20,260 --> 02:45:27,020
So, that's what we can expect to have a more thorough understanding. I do see someone walking around a more

1843
02:45:27,020 --> 02:45:32,440
there's a person I wanted to see about that. Okay, okay good to know so that gives us some time

1844
02:45:32,960 --> 02:45:38,500
or staff to look at that and I'm in to look over. Mr. Carter did you want us right now?

1845
02:45:38,700 --> 02:45:42,140
I've been talking with Stephen about it nonstop like since a couple days ago so.

1846
02:45:42,740 --> 02:45:48,960
Stephen Carter assisting County Ministry of Officer. We have looked at the specific policy section

1847
02:45:48,960 --> 02:45:56,400
where water resources for cannabis tax. There is enough funding in the current year to take care of

1848
02:45:56,400 --> 02:46:03,420
the request that water resources has. With the position in there, I'm not so sure about the ongoing for

1849
02:46:03,420 --> 02:46:10,100
subsequent years, hopefully grants take over by then. So we have already affirmed that the money

1850
02:46:10,100 --> 02:46:16,020
is there, and I would like it to know if your board is amenable to this or not, because

1851
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:24,320
mid-year budget isn't till the first week in February, but with the current budget water resources has,

1852
02:46:24,320 --> 02:46:29,860
They can budget transfer around and do some activities now and then as soon as midyear

1853
02:46:30,540 --> 02:46:36,320
It's finalized. We transfer the cannabis dollars to cover it if you're more it's not amenable

1854
02:46:36,320 --> 02:46:39,480
We'll wait and not do anything until that time period

1855
02:46:40,060 --> 02:46:44,820
I would suggest we bring this back as a item to continue and discuss and

1856
02:46:44,820 --> 02:46:50,520
Potentially finalized sooner than later. I don't think this is a awaiting game. This is an action game

1857
02:46:52,620 --> 02:46:53,740
looking for

1858
02:46:54,560 --> 02:47:02,940
you have consensus. Supervisor Green. Thank you for the very thorough and yes, very terrifying

1859
02:47:02,940 --> 02:47:08,880
presentation, but our last presentation was kind of scary too, so it's lock and

1860
02:47:08,880 --> 02:47:13,680
loaded people. Let's look out for those muscles. Just a question for staff and counting

1861
02:47:13,680 --> 02:47:18,320
counsel. I'm looking at our current water vessel inspection program ordinance. It looks like

1862
02:47:18,320 --> 02:47:22,800
It's pretty well-written and covers not just the dressing-it-muscles,

1863
02:47:23,080 --> 02:47:26,820
quagans, ebra, but any other aquatic non-native invasive species.

1864
02:47:27,080 --> 02:47:31,600
So provided our fine inspectors get some training on golden muscles and stuff like that.

1865
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:37,620
The way I'm reading it, we have full authorization under our current ordinance to take any proactive

1866
02:47:37,620 --> 02:47:41,480
measures needed to combat this on the ramps, but it could be wrong.

1867
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:46,620
And the reason I'm thinking out loud on that is if we do get close to needing an emergency

1868
02:47:48,560 --> 02:47:50,720
prox, you know, do we have to wait for the actual

1869
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:53,800
infestation? Can we be proactive on that? Are we going to wait

1870
02:47:53,800 --> 02:47:58,000
for the state to do things? The way I read this, and again,

1871
02:47:58,260 --> 02:48:00,240
I'm looking forward to staff review of this in County

1872
02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:03,760
Council, is I think our ordinance is strong enough the way

1873
02:48:03,760 --> 02:48:10,600
it was written to authorize action on this now. But if it isn't

1874
02:48:10,600 --> 02:48:13,280
strong enough, if we need to bake in some specific

1875
02:48:13,280 --> 02:48:20,320
authorization to the Golden Mussels and emergency prop would help us do that to enforce

1876
02:48:20,320 --> 02:48:25,160
that regulation because it isn't in here. I guess we would need that analysis sooner

1877
02:48:25,160 --> 02:48:30,240
than later because to this very part if we do need an emergency prop to beef up the enforcement

1878
02:48:30,240 --> 02:48:36,060
in this ordinance. Let's talk about that. But if this ordinance as it stands right now is strong enough

1879
02:48:36,060 --> 02:48:40,960
to give you that flexibility then maybe we can wait and see what the state's going to do before

1880
02:48:40,960 --> 02:48:42,940
we bake a local emergency.

1881
02:48:43,460 --> 02:48:44,280
Does that make sense?

1882
02:48:46,200 --> 02:48:48,660
You don't have to answer yes, but that was my question.

1883
02:48:48,840 --> 02:48:50,640
Is our current ordinance strong enough

1884
02:48:50,640 --> 02:48:53,060
that if we get training to our nice ramp monitors,

1885
02:48:53,980 --> 02:48:56,060
we can totally use the existing authorization

1886
02:48:56,060 --> 02:48:58,600
of this ordinance and the stickers and the tags

1887
02:48:58,600 --> 02:49:00,820
and the fees and all that had to move ahead?

1888
02:49:01,800 --> 02:49:03,920
Yeah, we'll do a, I'm gonna work with County Council

1889
02:49:03,920 --> 02:49:05,780
and do a thorough dive to make sure that's covered.

1890
02:49:06,660 --> 02:49:10,200
There is the ordinance and then there's another reference

1891
02:49:10,200 --> 02:49:12,600
to part of the ordinance and other part of the county code.

1892
02:49:12,660 --> 02:49:13,840
So I just want to make sure we're covered.

1893
02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:17,580
And we also, in the state, it's told me

1894
02:49:17,580 --> 02:49:20,660
but we also function on the intents of that ordinance.

1895
02:49:21,380 --> 02:49:25,040
And so we're responding now based on the intent of that ordinance.

1896
02:49:26,460 --> 02:49:27,460
But yeah, I need to work with county council.

1897
02:49:27,580 --> 02:49:29,260
If it's something like just going through and changing

1898
02:49:29,260 --> 02:49:32,240
from descended to other invasive muscles, that line

1899
02:49:32,240 --> 02:49:34,160
throughout the ordinance, that's a pretty easy fix.

1900
02:49:34,300 --> 02:49:36,220
If that's enough to address us.

1901
02:49:36,220 --> 02:49:39,520
But if we want to do something with citation, limits or powers,

1902
02:49:39,520 --> 02:49:42,120
that's something that I want to work with County Council, what would be the best thing

1903
02:49:42,120 --> 02:49:46,160
if we're going to change an ordinance and go to that process of public review and border

1904
02:49:46,160 --> 02:49:46,680
approval.

1905
02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:48,960
I want to make sure I have everything right there.

1906
02:49:49,460 --> 02:49:50,260
So thanks for that comment.

1907
02:49:50,360 --> 02:49:54,580
Supervisor Green, and I will be reaching out to County Council to help me do that.

1908
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:54,880
Okay.

1909
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:59,010
That's mild and nodded.

1910
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:14,700
So, I'm making some assumptions. This is starting out in the Delta and the Delta has some while slow, very important projects that the state of California is working on and very controversial as well.

1911
02:50:15,260 --> 02:50:25,460
But even as of this morning, they're looking to start embedding some pipelines, getting 140 million out of the $20 billion project to make water goes into towards Southern California.

1912
02:50:26,660 --> 02:50:35,640
That tells me that either A, that might cancel that project or B, there's no way you can cancel that project and they're going to have to figure out what to do with those muscles.

1913
02:50:36,440 --> 02:50:46,220
So I'm hoping that that means that generates a lot of interest from the state of California to wanting to do something to try to eliminate the problem before it gets out of control.

1914
02:50:46,960 --> 02:50:51,900
More so than it is at this moment or just that there will be some funding to try and control these things.

1915
02:50:51,900 --> 02:50:55,420
I'm hoping the Delta Project helps us out from the state perspective.

1916
02:50:56,620 --> 02:51:02,700
We just did a grand jury report on the, not the ramp monitoring, but the fees.

1917
02:51:03,620 --> 02:51:11,360
And looking at that line item that was there, I didn't really see too many fines and you

1918
02:51:11,360 --> 02:51:13,500
were talking about maybe we need to increase the fines.

1919
02:51:13,580 --> 02:51:20,080
Maybe we need to increase the enforcement of putting out the fines because I'm guessing that

1920
02:51:20,080 --> 02:51:23,880
If we catch somebody without a sticker, we say, hey, go back and get a sticker or something

1921
02:51:23,880 --> 02:51:24,700
like that.

1922
02:51:24,740 --> 02:51:30,140
And we want to get people to meet compliance rather than hitting them with fines.

1923
02:51:30,740 --> 02:51:34,300
And I don't know what that might look like, but I just know when I looked at those line

1924
02:51:34,300 --> 02:51:34,600
items.

1925
02:51:34,700 --> 02:51:35,480
There was very minimal.

1926
02:51:35,700 --> 02:51:39,040
And I'm like, I know we're catching more than just what's there.

1927
02:51:39,700 --> 02:51:44,840
And so maybe we need to take a harder stance to want to keep our late clean, especially

1928
02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:47,320
if you're in the lake and you're found without stickers at that point.

1929
02:51:47,340 --> 02:51:48,880
I don't know that there should even be a choice.

1930
02:51:48,880 --> 02:51:53,720
If you're in the lake, you are putting others and our infrastructure potentially a danger.

1931
02:51:54,400 --> 02:51:59,600
So I'd like to see how we can maybe enhance that enforcement by using what we already have on the books.

1932
02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:04,460
The last, if you can explain again, I apologize for forgetting the specifics.

1933
02:52:04,640 --> 02:52:08,520
On December 12, there is a California Department of Fish and Wildlife meeting that's happening.

1934
02:52:09,680 --> 02:52:18,700
What are they looking to do to add the golden muscle to the list of species that can help you utilize your grants or access grants?

1935
02:52:18,700 --> 02:52:20,960
Can you kind of help me remember?

1936
02:52:22,040 --> 02:52:24,020
Yeah, and what I included in my slide,

1937
02:52:24,140 --> 02:52:26,720
it slide 32 is the copy and paste

1938
02:52:26,720 --> 02:52:29,220
from the Fish and Wildlife Task Force meeting.

1939
02:52:29,320 --> 02:52:31,300
I didn't want to get anything incorrect in there.

1940
02:52:31,960 --> 02:52:35,780
So the current California Fish and Wildlife Code

1941
02:52:36,540 --> 02:52:39,540
doesn't even list golden muscles as a restricted species.

1942
02:52:40,300 --> 02:52:42,980
So at the state level, they also have no authority

1943
02:52:44,040 --> 02:52:46,900
in their legislative, in their legal framework

1944
02:52:46,900 --> 02:52:52,540
to be able to start a program for Golden Muscle Prevention or dedicate funds or list it on

1945
02:52:52,540 --> 02:52:57,360
put it on watch list. So they're putting to the, they put together emergency package. It's

1946
02:52:57,360 --> 02:53:01,980
all available online if you go to the Fish and Wildlife Commission for the next meeting on December

1947
02:53:02,720 --> 02:53:07,920
12th and you go down to the agenda item, the whole package is there of what they're asking and

1948
02:53:07,920 --> 02:53:12,980
the language updates. They're requesting in the Fish and Wildlife Code. So then that the

1949
02:53:12,980 --> 02:53:20,440
and muscles now considered restricted species, I don't know if this will trickle to other language

1950
02:53:21,160 --> 02:53:28,960
in the legislative angles and specific grant projects or grant programs. I think they all

1951
02:53:28,960 --> 02:53:35,300
have to do that separately. I don't know if that's a one stop. It's the first step for fish and wildlife

1952
02:53:35,300 --> 02:53:40,060
because right now they can't even give authority to their own staff to go out and do management.

1953
02:53:40,060 --> 02:53:47,100
They're doing monitoring, but that's what they recognize as the first step and might be the first domino for everything else.

1954
02:53:47,280 --> 02:53:54,620
Yeah, it'll help set it up. Personally, I would really like if they just go to the governor and ask for a emergency declaration at this point,

1955
02:53:55,160 --> 02:54:02,460
particularly the item you brought up about the Delta Project and the Amazon, these muscles spread by sand being moved from areas.

1956
02:54:02,460 --> 02:54:08,020
So we know that there's a lot of dredging in the delta for those water projects and any

1957
02:54:08,020 --> 02:54:11,520
of that can contain a bunch of golden muscles that are then moved around the state.

1958
02:54:12,600 --> 02:54:16,400
We also don't know the full extent because if it wasn't on the restricted list was fish and

1959
02:54:16,400 --> 02:54:20,740
wildlife monitoring it, was the Department of Water Resources monitoring for them around the

1960
02:54:20,740 --> 02:54:22,460
entire state and all of their water project.

1961
02:54:22,600 --> 02:54:23,280
We don't even know that.

1962
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:27,340
So we're still waiting for the extent of this and I don't know if fish and wildlife

1963
02:54:27,340 --> 02:54:32,900
is waiting for that to see, I guess, to be blunt, is it worth it? Or, you know, what their

1964
02:54:32,900 --> 02:54:37,540
next step would be based on the full extent of it? So I hope that answered your question. And

1965
02:54:37,540 --> 02:54:42,200
if anybody wants to make comments that the Fish and Game Commission meeting, that's December 12 for

1966
02:54:42,200 --> 02:54:48,400
that. And what, and I appreciate that. Thank you very much. I know that we've been working a lot,

1967
02:54:48,500 --> 02:54:54,020
especially in the Blue Ribbon Committee with Eric Scholar, and he has been the President of Fish

1968
02:54:54,020 --> 02:54:59,960
wildlife is he's still on the board. I think so I think he's a chair, but I am not a hundred percent.

1969
02:55:00,620 --> 02:55:23,740
That's what I'm thinking. I just haven't updated to see if anything has changed. And I'm just looking for, I think we need to reach out to Mr. Skalar, let him know our concern and let him know the importance of what Fish and Wildlife will be discussing and to ensure that they start off that first domino to start getting the support that we're looking for from the state level.

1970
02:55:23,740 --> 02:55:30,340
And so I'm looking for board consensus for one of us to reach out to Eric Skalar.

1971
02:55:31,140 --> 02:55:37,040
The Blue Ribbon Committee meets Monday or the Coral meeting, so that's where we can approach them for this.

1972
02:55:37,200 --> 02:55:46,700
But the meetings on December 12, which would be two days from now, which would be Thursday, and I think somebody who interacts with them quite often, especially through the Blue Ribbon Committee,

1973
02:55:46,700 --> 02:55:54,120
If it's possible to reach out to them and just let them know our concern, if that's not possible, I'm happy to do that as well and let them know.

1974
02:55:54,380 --> 02:55:58,280
And let me know if you get anything from me to write up or anything to make it easier or faster.

1975
02:55:59,760 --> 02:55:59,920
Okay.

1976
02:56:00,440 --> 02:56:02,900
And is there consensus from the board to go ahead and do that?

1977
02:56:03,180 --> 02:56:05,700
I think we use our relationships that we have.

1978
02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:11,700
And since he's working always hand in hand here in Lake County, let's make sure to communicate with them.

1979
02:56:11,700 --> 02:56:18,260
concerning, glad there's nothing here at this moment in time, but thank you very much.

1980
02:56:18,420 --> 02:56:25,700
I always appreciate the reports, you don't hide things, you don't skirt around things,

1981
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:29,080
we need to know what's going on and we need to know how best to handle the situation that

1982
02:56:29,080 --> 02:56:29,460
we have.

1983
02:56:29,880 --> 02:56:30,800
No time to lose.

1984
02:56:31,720 --> 02:56:33,000
I'm going to start off with.

1985
02:56:33,240 --> 02:56:33,460
Okay.

1986
02:56:34,080 --> 02:56:34,300
All right.

1987
02:56:34,300 --> 02:56:35,260
Supervisor Green.

1988
02:56:35,860 --> 02:57:02,040
To your point, I see lots of, again, in the ordinance, I see lots of enforcement goodies in there for everything from summary abatement to impounding boats administrative penalties and all that, but I don't recall, you know, if it was an administrative penalty, that'd be a code enforcement thing, I see the sheriff has some authority in here to do misdemeanor enforcement, so there's a wide range of enforcement in here, including administrative citations.

1989
02:57:02,040 --> 02:57:07,100
What I don't know is water resources current capacity to impose any of those panels. We do

1990
02:57:07,100 --> 02:57:09,040
Yes, we issue administrative citations

1991
02:57:09,820 --> 02:57:15,920
You do and pretty much all of them have been paid or upheld by the board and that's using water. These staff

1992
02:57:15,920 --> 02:57:19,180
No, it's myself my technician or the

1993
02:57:19,840 --> 02:57:20,360
Director

1994
02:57:21,000 --> 02:57:24,640
Okay, certainly other coordinators do in the department. Yeah

1995
02:57:24,640 --> 02:57:27,300
So how's that work in real life if they flag a boat?

1996
02:57:27,300 --> 02:57:31,980
they have to put a call in to you or Pawn and say come on out and do a citation.

1997
02:57:32,680 --> 02:57:37,820
Yep. And the ordinance language and the citation also give us power to send a citation

1998
02:57:37,820 --> 02:57:43,380
if the boat's not present in front of us. So if what usually happens and we have a couple

1999
02:57:43,380 --> 02:57:48,540
boats a few weeks ago is if there's a boat that a trailer in the parking lot that wants to

2000
02:57:48,540 --> 02:57:53,460
boat and there's no stickers on the trailer and they have warning, they've gotten warnings.

2001
02:57:53,460 --> 02:58:00,280
We've a record of that, or they have a warning card, and they don't have a current sticker, we can send them a citation.

2002
02:58:01,480 --> 02:58:06,980
If they just didn't put the current sticker on their trailer, but they have the paperwork, they send it back with their citation I rip it up.

2003
02:58:07,420 --> 02:58:11,060
Because it means they want to the process, but that doesn't happen that often.

2004
02:58:11,300 --> 02:58:15,500
Usually if they get a citation from not having a sticker, my rant monitors are really thorough.

2005
02:58:16,260 --> 02:58:19,980
There are a lot of these guys live in the area. They know the boats that come and go. They know who the boats are.

2006
02:58:19,980 --> 02:58:25,100
They know if there's a boat from out of town, also if it's a risk boat, you know, where it's from,

2007
02:58:25,280 --> 02:58:29,320
if it doesn't come up in the database at all, there's also a part in the database to put in trailer

2008
02:58:29,320 --> 02:58:34,800
information too. So at this point it's to the extent there's any enforcement. It's all sites all the time,

2009
02:58:35,040 --> 02:58:40,220
admin sites, and we are pursuing those other enforcement options. Marine Patrol can also cite boats

2010
02:58:40,220 --> 02:58:45,020
on the lake. And that is one thing I need to do. We have a new sheriff. I had any dev conversations

2011
02:58:45,020 --> 02:58:51,460
with them. Our main patrol staff has been trained and they're, you know, they're also limited

2012
02:58:51,460 --> 02:58:55,200
staff. So they don't have guys out there looking at every single boat, particularly during the

2013
02:58:55,200 --> 02:59:02,220
off season. But they do issue citations. The state parks is really, they love given citations out.

2014
02:59:02,500 --> 02:59:06,560
It seems like because they're really thorough. I guess isn't I sort of say that. Sorry.

2015
02:59:07,000 --> 02:59:11,000
I provide a assignment. Yeah, appreciate the report. And obviously a lot's happened to

2016
02:59:11,000 --> 02:59:15,560
I spoke with you a little bit about this issue on the first day, so.

2017
02:59:15,620 --> 02:59:20,240
So thank you very much for that, but what I was going to say today is, you know, when

2018
02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:23,640
the report there, you know, they were saying there are some work needs to be done, some other

2019
02:59:23,640 --> 02:59:25,160
things, there is no funding.

2020
02:59:25,400 --> 02:59:30,720
I'd like to commit out of my discretionary funds and work with that man to do that $20,000

2021
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:31,400
to help.

2022
02:59:31,400 --> 02:59:36,480
Any stop gaps while the board has a chance to bring it back and address something in the budget

2023
02:59:36,480 --> 02:59:37,980
or the state makes some changes.

2024
02:59:37,980 --> 02:59:40,160
Because we're really important to always talk about it.

2025
02:59:40,260 --> 02:59:43,500
The lake is one of our most valuable assets needs to be protected.

2026
02:59:44,020 --> 02:59:46,520
So I'm going to work with Admin and hopefully give you some funds.

2027
02:59:46,620 --> 02:59:50,060
I don't tell you how to spend it, but you guys can figure that out.

2028
02:59:50,600 --> 02:59:52,560
But hopefully it can help with the stop gap in the meantime.

2029
02:59:53,040 --> 02:59:54,320
So I'd like to be able to do that.

2030
02:59:54,600 --> 02:59:56,060
Thank you very much, supervisor Simon.

2031
02:59:56,400 --> 02:59:58,520
We're supposed to be giving you a good buy going away gift.

2032
02:59:58,540 --> 02:59:59,880
But thank you so much for that.

2033
03:00:00,820 --> 03:00:05,980
We'll talk with Admin and I'll talk with my staff on the best way that you do that right now.

2034
03:00:06,520 --> 03:00:14,580
And I'll make one final comment before opening up for public comment. I know that I've already, I know you're working on it, working with property owners.

2035
03:00:15,220 --> 03:00:22,960
But we do have a lot of signage throughout the county entrances. But a lot of those signs are slowly fading, either falling apart.

2036
03:00:22,960 --> 03:00:31,320
So I think that's important work to make sure that that signage remains so that as people enter into the communities that they're being hit with those signs.

2037
03:00:32,200 --> 03:00:32,420
So,

2038
03:00:32,560 --> 03:00:35,040
CalTrans encroachment permits take a long time.

2039
03:00:35,380 --> 03:00:42,760
Expect a letter for me at some point asking the board to ask Fish and Wildlife to enter a cooperative agreement with CalTrans or do something.

2040
03:00:43,120 --> 03:00:52,400
So when there's invasive species signage, it can just be put up with a notification and out having to go through the standard like month month encroachment permit process review.

2041
03:00:52,400 --> 03:00:56,440
That would be just foreshadowing, but thanks for bringing that up.

2042
03:00:57,020 --> 03:00:59,060
Let's work on that. Let's work on that.

2043
03:00:59,260 --> 03:01:00,660
All right, let's open it up for public comment.

2044
03:01:00,680 --> 03:01:03,360
Anyone from the public wish to speak on this item.

2045
03:01:04,440 --> 03:01:06,400
Please come up to the microphone, please.

2046
03:01:07,140 --> 03:01:08,740
Or raise your hand in Zoom.

2047
03:01:11,640 --> 03:01:13,800
You mentioned training.

2048
03:01:14,920 --> 03:01:17,760
I want to congratulate Angela and Corey.

2049
03:01:17,760 --> 03:01:21,760
We go through an extensive training program on invasive species.

2050
03:01:21,760 --> 03:01:26,000
not only muscle but plant life and snails.

2051
03:01:26,940 --> 03:01:29,160
We cover pretty much everything it's out there

2052
03:01:29,160 --> 03:01:31,400
and we're trained to look for it.

2053
03:01:31,720 --> 03:01:32,940
That's all I had to say.

2054
03:01:33,300 --> 03:01:34,740
Was your name for the record please?

2055
03:01:35,040 --> 03:01:35,240
Frank.

2056
03:01:35,920 --> 03:01:36,400
Lovings.

2057
03:01:36,400 --> 03:01:37,240
L-E-V.

2058
03:01:37,440 --> 03:01:38,840
I-N-G-S.

2059
03:01:39,180 --> 03:01:39,600
Thank you, sir.

2060
03:01:41,750 --> 03:01:43,590
Any other comment on this item?

2061
03:01:46,370 --> 03:01:48,030
Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the board.

2062
03:01:48,570 --> 03:01:50,590
We've already given the consensus to go ahead

2063
03:01:50,590 --> 03:01:53,470
and bring back that canned grant proposal

2064
03:01:53,470 --> 03:02:00,170
proposal as soon as possible and one of us that it looks like Vice Chair Krandell might be the

2065
03:02:00,170 --> 03:02:05,790
one to reach out to Eric Scholar, the potential chair of the Fish and Wildlife, let them know

2066
03:02:05,790 --> 03:02:12,390
our concerns and what we would like to get from the state. And just one last long as you're here

2067
03:02:12,390 --> 03:02:16,810
it's very rare and I can get you all on the same room. Thank you so much for your hard work freezing out

2068
03:02:16,810 --> 03:02:22,470
there, baking out there, you are the front lines and I've seen you out on the front lines,

2069
03:02:23,830 --> 03:02:26,850
I appreciate you all very much.

2070
03:02:27,450 --> 03:02:28,570
Thank you very much.

2071
03:02:28,830 --> 03:02:29,670
Thank you.

2072
03:02:29,790 --> 03:02:29,890
All right.

2073
03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:32,770
And with that, we're going to go ahead and head and close down this item.

2074
03:02:33,150 --> 03:02:34,570
Really appreciate the report.

2075
03:02:34,710 --> 03:02:35,810
Looking forward to more discussions.

2076
03:02:36,470 --> 03:02:37,230
Thank you so much, Board.

2077
03:02:37,430 --> 03:02:38,070
Thank you.

2078
03:02:38,170 --> 03:02:38,610
County Council.

2079
03:02:39,070 --> 03:02:39,470
Thank you, sir.

2080
03:02:39,990 --> 03:02:42,390
And we will go ahead and take a lunch.

2081
03:02:42,690 --> 03:02:45,170
We will reconvene this meeting at one PM.

2082
03:02:45,170 --> 03:02:45,170
I'm

2083
03:02:59,060 --> 03:03:02,920
sorry, but we're still at the link to the review

2084
03:03:05,480 --> 03:03:05,860
line.

2085
03:03:06,060 --> 03:03:06,400
Yes.

2086
03:03:14,800 --> 03:03:15,040
Okay.

2087
03:07:24,140 --> 03:07:52,410
Looks like we're back and ready to go. Sam, we're good. Welcome back. Thank you, everyone, for being here. We are continuing on where we left off item 6.10, one PM, consideration of agreement between county of lake and smart easy pay ink. Also known as easy smart pay. We have our treasure tax collector and we also have C-SAC Finance Corporation here. If you want to come up as well that way if we have any questions, you can be in the comfort zone.

2088
03:07:56,370 --> 03:07:57,110
Welcome and good afternoon.

2089
03:08:01,090 --> 03:08:05,130
Patrick Sullivan, Treasure Tax Collector, and I'm here with Chase Broffman from the C-Sect

2090
03:08:05,130 --> 03:08:11,690
front-hand incorporation in the E.C. SmartPay. So this item is to consider agreement for

2091
03:08:11,690 --> 03:08:18,630
E.C. SmartPay. This is a program that came out of C-SAC originally. It's goal is to allow

2092
03:08:18,630 --> 03:08:24,590
people to make taxpayers to make monthly payments. Right now we don't have an option for taxpayers

2093
03:08:24,590 --> 03:08:29,310
to pay property taxes and installments. Beyond the first and second that's permitted

2094
03:08:29,310 --> 03:08:36,230
under R&T code. This program would allow taxpayers that opportunity to break those payments out

2095
03:08:36,230 --> 03:08:42,710
into 12 monthly installments. Then for each of those installments, Smart EasyPay would make

2096
03:08:42,710 --> 03:08:48,970
those payments via wire to the county. Just a few points to highlight about this program.

2097
03:08:49,770 --> 03:08:54,470
Many other counties have already gone to it. I did have some questions when it originally came

2098
03:08:54,470 --> 03:08:59,390
my attention. There are some elements of the service that I did not think would necessarily

2099
03:08:59,390 --> 03:09:04,870
be valuable to Lake County. There was the ability to make installment payments directly

2100
03:09:04,870 --> 03:09:09,350
to Easy SmartPay. We don't really require that. We have the ability to take those payments directly

2101
03:09:09,350 --> 03:09:15,150
via credit card or electronic payment. But we'll be really don't have any access to as

2102
03:09:15,150 --> 03:09:22,110
their kind of flagship product, the monthly payments. One of the other questions I had was about

2103
03:09:22,110 --> 03:09:23,950
how they run their investment program.

2104
03:09:25,310 --> 03:09:27,910
They use a model that's very similar to the requirements

2105
03:09:27,910 --> 03:09:31,990
that treasure tax collectors operate under in government code.

2106
03:09:33,590 --> 03:09:37,050
But because they are not licensed or regulated

2107
03:09:37,050 --> 03:09:39,090
in the way that we are as a private entity,

2108
03:09:40,790 --> 03:09:43,210
they would have the ability to do things differently

2109
03:09:43,210 --> 03:09:43,830
than we do.

2110
03:09:43,990 --> 03:09:46,650
And maybe engage in one of the concerns I had

2111
03:09:46,650 --> 03:09:48,350
was that they may be able to engage in investments

2112
03:09:48,350 --> 03:09:50,210
that would not be in keeping with our practices.

2113
03:09:51,370 --> 03:09:56,130
So, one of the things that we worked out was that there would be notice, if they were to change their practices,

2114
03:09:57,370 --> 03:09:59,910
that notice will be provided to the county so that we would have the opportunity.

2115
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:11,780
I need to get out of the program if we felt that was appropriate. I mean, I have no reason to believe that would actually happen, but it's just one of the things I wanted to cover before I considered bringing it to your board.

2116
03:10:12,540 --> 03:10:23,380
So that's the rough background of the program. If you have specific questions about the program itself, or want to hear more detail, in case it's happy to provide that.

2117
03:10:23,380 --> 03:10:28,600
You have any further comments before we open it up for the board?

2118
03:10:29,640 --> 03:10:33,320
I thank Mr. Sullivan for his due diligence along this process.

2119
03:10:33,640 --> 03:10:36,980
Thank you, Chair Savati, and members of the board for taking the time to hear this item.

2120
03:10:37,640 --> 03:10:41,300
Yeah, as Mr. Sullivan mentioned, this was born out of the CSAC Finance Corporation.

2121
03:10:41,400 --> 03:10:43,820
This is a program that counties wanted.

2122
03:10:44,120 --> 03:10:50,900
We understand that you have legislative as well as operational constraints when it comes to offering partial payment for property tax.

2123
03:10:50,900 --> 03:10:54,040
And so that's really what this program was started out of.

2124
03:10:54,220 --> 03:10:56,380
This is no cost to constituents to enroll.

2125
03:10:56,960 --> 03:10:58,020
There's no onboard.

2126
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:01,320
It continues cost to them, except for the exact property tax bill.

2127
03:11:01,940 --> 03:11:03,960
Of course, there's the applicable transaction rates,

2128
03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:05,280
which are the lowest in the state.

2129
03:11:05,420 --> 03:11:10,400
0% if they use ACH and 1.99 if they use a credit or debit card.

2130
03:11:11,480 --> 03:11:15,120
And so this has been adopted by 33 of the 58 counties.

2131
03:11:15,360 --> 03:11:18,320
We've heard very good feedback from treasure tax collectors,

2132
03:11:18,320 --> 03:11:22,720
as well as constituents like that they appreciate the service, so I appreciate your consideration

2133
03:11:22,720 --> 03:11:26,860
today looking at this item and I look forward to a potential partnership with Lake County

2134
03:11:26,860 --> 03:11:32,280
Mr. Sullivan's office and adding this value to your constituents. Thank you very much.

2135
03:11:33,120 --> 03:11:36,140
Any comments or questions from board members? Supervisor Pyskay.

2136
03:11:40,160 --> 03:11:45,580
This is a need that we've had for a long time with our constituents. It is really difficult to make

2137
03:11:45,580 --> 03:11:50,440
those payments twice a year for some folks so I appreciate this and I also know that our treasure

2138
03:11:50,440 --> 03:11:54,880
tax collection, put a lot of effort into finding a level of comfort here,

2139
03:11:55,560 --> 03:11:59,240
lined out, so I appreciate both of you for putting that time in.

2140
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:00,500
Thank you.

2141
03:12:00,700 --> 03:12:01,860
Supervisor Green?

2142
03:12:02,920 --> 03:12:04,020
Yeah, just a super quick question.

2143
03:12:04,260 --> 03:12:06,900
I see the monthly is there in there, but semi-annual is not.

2144
03:12:06,900 --> 03:12:11,200
I said a technological hurdle, or is that not part of your business model?

2145
03:12:12,440 --> 03:12:12,780
It's on.

2146
03:12:13,940 --> 03:12:17,720
Yeah, I would take responsibility for that aspect that you're noting there.

2147
03:12:17,720 --> 03:12:23,540
Smart EasyPay does have the ability to take those semi-annual payments, but I requested that

2148
03:12:23,540 --> 03:12:28,340
those not be included for Lake County, partially because as I stated we have the ability

2149
03:12:28,340 --> 03:12:33,060
to take those payments, when we take them they go directly into our bank account, where we're

2150
03:12:33,060 --> 03:12:38,740
then able to invest them and earn those returns. So if Smart EasyPay were to take those large

2151
03:12:38,740 --> 03:12:44,340
installment payments for us, I don't find for Lake County taxpayers, there's a significant

2152
03:12:44,340 --> 03:12:49,820
added benefit because we already offer that service and the risk to the county is that's where

2153
03:12:49,820 --> 03:12:56,340
we lose the opportunity for interest in other investment earnings by limiting it to the monthly

2154
03:12:56,340 --> 03:13:01,960
payments. It restricts a number of people who would probably utilize this program. It would be those

2155
03:13:01,960 --> 03:13:06,280
that have previously expressed the need. I mean, we're aware there's that need out there. There is

2156
03:13:06,280 --> 03:13:13,180
that request, but those making the full installment payments early are unlikely in our opinion to be in

2157
03:13:13,180 --> 03:13:21,400
need. So yes, it was by design that we restricted that to ensure the impact to our investment

2158
03:13:21,400 --> 03:13:22,600
program would be minimal.

2159
03:13:28,580 --> 03:13:31,180
Thank you for that. Any other further questions or comments?

2160
03:13:32,260 --> 03:13:38,840
Seeing none, I've spoken with Chase most recently at the conference that we were at, I guess I should

2161
03:13:38,840 --> 03:13:44,820
preface it with. I appreciate everything that CSEC does and attempts to do, but I just can't get on board

2162
03:13:44,820 --> 03:13:52,740
with this one. I appreciate the work that's already been done to minimize the risk to the county

2163
03:13:52,740 --> 03:13:59,040
as well as the individuals, but I would suspect that most people that want to do monthly payments

2164
03:13:59,040 --> 03:14:06,260
probably have more of a struggling financial status than those that can just pay off the

2165
03:14:06,260 --> 03:14:14,860
by annual payments. And the fact that you are not necessarily a bank, you don't have FDIC coverage,

2166
03:14:15,200 --> 03:14:22,520
you don't necessarily have, yes, you might tell us that you're going to change your investment

2167
03:14:23,200 --> 03:14:31,260
style. But what does that do to those individuals that are involved and already have given you

2168
03:14:31,260 --> 03:14:35,620
money does that mean that automatically their money comes back? If we cancel, does that mean that

2169
03:14:35,620 --> 03:14:41,340
They might have the chance to benefit or lose from that change in investment style.

2170
03:14:41,500 --> 03:14:45,440
I just, if it was more like a bank situation with some extra coverage,

2171
03:14:45,520 --> 03:14:51,160
I don't feel creating a risk for those potentially already in risk is what I see as the best.

2172
03:14:51,660 --> 03:14:58,320
And I would also assume that, and the reason I say that is because we would be advocating that this is a program that you can use.

2173
03:14:59,100 --> 03:14:59,880
We're not advocating.

2174
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:10,240
For any other banks in the area, and if you happen to be able to sell this product directly to the consumer, then at that point, that's between you and the consumer and the county doesn't get in the middle of it.

2175
03:15:10,500 --> 03:15:25,280
But if I'm going to tell a constituent, hey, as a county, I'm telling you that this program is here, but there's risks and something happens, then I feel like that's not us trying to provide the best guidance to our constituents.

2176
03:15:25,280 --> 03:15:28,200
And so I know that you and I had discussed this.

2177
03:15:28,560 --> 03:15:31,520
I've been pretty consistent on my comments

2178
03:15:31,520 --> 03:15:34,420
and today's just not the day that I can support this.

2179
03:15:35,680 --> 03:15:38,760
If there's no further comment, I'm going to open up for public comment.

2180
03:15:39,780 --> 03:15:42,620
Anyone wish to speak on this item?

2181
03:15:43,560 --> 03:15:44,720
Raise your hand in Zoom.

2182
03:15:44,960 --> 03:15:46,640
Come on up to the microphone and the chamber.

2183
03:15:47,440 --> 03:15:49,740
Seeing none and neither one, I'll bring it back to the board for action.

2184
03:15:54,750 --> 03:15:56,950
I can see recommended action on the staff report.

2185
03:15:57,070 --> 03:15:58,910
So I'm kind of struggling with the form of the motion.

2186
03:16:04,210 --> 03:16:10,670
Sorry, so the recommended action would be to approve the agreement and authorize the chair to sign.

2187
03:16:11,610 --> 03:16:11,830
So moved.

2188
03:16:12,430 --> 03:16:12,850
Second.

2189
03:16:13,230 --> 03:16:14,210
We have a motion in a second.

2190
03:16:14,390 --> 03:16:14,950
All in favor?

2191
03:16:15,550 --> 03:16:15,570
Aye.

2192
03:16:15,890 --> 03:16:16,590
Any opposed?

2193
03:16:17,030 --> 03:16:17,150
Nay.

2194
03:16:17,590 --> 03:16:18,070
Motion carries.

2195
03:16:19,290 --> 03:16:19,810
Thank you very much.

2196
03:16:19,950 --> 03:16:20,270
Thank you.

2197
03:16:27,580 --> 03:16:29,460
All right, we're going to take up item.

2198
03:16:29,460 --> 03:16:31,560
I don't believe she came back.

2199
03:16:32,280 --> 03:16:34,980
So we are going to take up item 7.5.

2200
03:16:35,220 --> 03:16:38,740
Consideration of a resolution approving a memorandum of understanding MOU

2201
03:16:38,740 --> 03:16:47,200
between the regions of the University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources and the County of Lake or am I moving too fast?

2202
03:16:47,420 --> 03:16:48,840
Yes, I'd be waiting for Mr. Barnes.

2203
03:16:49,040 --> 03:16:49,420
Yes, please.

2204
03:16:50,380 --> 03:16:50,880
I apologize.

2205
03:16:52,640 --> 03:16:56,200
And I guess let's go ahead and take up Item 7.2.

2206
03:16:56,540 --> 03:17:00,800
Consideration of appointment of District 4 Supervisor Michael Green to the Lake County Board of Supervisors

2207
03:17:00,800 --> 03:17:03,080
Chair for Remainter of his term.

2208
03:17:03,080 --> 03:17:10,680
just a little caveat clarification. This would be as of 1217, not after the decision made today,

2209
03:17:10,700 --> 03:17:17,480
meaning in two minutes that would take effect. And so just a brief summary based on the memo that I

2210
03:17:17,480 --> 03:17:23,260
already wrote, Mr. Green has been with us since October of 2022.

2211
03:17:25,640 --> 03:17:28,700
And I've appreciated his presence

2212
03:17:28,700 --> 03:17:34,900
in addition to the team, and since he will no longer be a Board of Supervisor as of January

2213
03:17:34,900 --> 03:17:41,940
upon swearing in new officers, I wanted to give him the chance to be a Board Chair, even

2214
03:17:41,940 --> 03:17:45,040
though it would be a very minuscule amount of time.

2215
03:17:45,280 --> 03:17:50,940
And so I was hoping to vacate my seat as of the next meeting, and I let him take the lead with

2216
03:17:50,940 --> 03:17:54,380
Vice Chair Crando remaining in his Vice Chair position.

2217
03:17:54,900 --> 03:17:58,340
I did speak with Vice Chair Crando, just to make sure that that was appropriate and

2218
03:17:58,340 --> 03:18:04,280
and to be offensive to do that, so I did not get to speak with Mr. Green, Supervisor Green,

2219
03:18:04,340 --> 03:18:08,900
which means that it was a bit of a surprise to see this on the agenda. But as you know,

2220
03:18:09,040 --> 03:18:13,520
the Brown Act prohibits us from speaking to too many people. And so I just wanted to open that up

2221
03:18:13,520 --> 03:18:17,140
for discussion and see what the board's will is.

2222
03:18:20,920 --> 03:18:21,520
Vice Chair Crember.

2223
03:18:21,920 --> 03:18:28,780
Obviously I agree with this, so I think it would be a good going thing for him to have.

2224
03:18:28,780 --> 03:18:32,280
I know, you've spent probably like three times as chair, right, too.

2225
03:18:32,420 --> 03:18:33,620
No, one time, just a pandemic.

2226
03:18:34,280 --> 03:18:36,080
Secondly, second time was going to be this year.

2227
03:18:36,440 --> 03:18:38,560
So, that's a pandemic was good enough for me.

2228
03:18:40,620 --> 03:18:42,800
I got a lot of lovely notes during that year.

2229
03:18:43,220 --> 03:18:43,880
So, there's a shocking.

2230
03:18:44,000 --> 03:18:45,760
Just continues year after year.

2231
03:18:48,450 --> 03:18:48,750
All right.

2232
03:18:49,270 --> 03:18:53,030
And I thank, thank, chair Sabate for thinking of me.

2233
03:18:53,030 --> 03:18:54,690
I thank you, Zepropia term.

2234
03:18:55,990 --> 03:19:00,650
And I certainly be delighted to hold the gavel once if the board so wills.

2235
03:19:00,650 --> 03:19:04,330
but I feel it's up to you to make that decision and not me.

2236
03:19:05,090 --> 03:19:06,330
So, thank you very much.

2237
03:19:06,690 --> 03:19:09,450
I want to open it up for public comments on this item.

2238
03:19:09,710 --> 03:19:11,210
Anyone wish to speak on this item?

2239
03:19:13,090 --> 03:19:15,950
I see no movement in the chamber, no hands in the zone room,

2240
03:19:15,950 --> 03:19:17,830
bring it back to the board for action.

2241
03:19:19,310 --> 03:19:22,010
And again, it's possible with the caveat

2242
03:19:22,010 --> 03:19:24,350
of as of the meeting of 1217.

2243
03:19:25,430 --> 03:19:27,910
Mr. Chair, I move to a point supervisor,

2244
03:19:27,910 --> 03:19:33,530
Michael Green to chair of the board of supervisors for the meeting for the rest of his

2245
03:19:33,530 --> 03:19:40,550
term starting on the December 17 meeting. Is that good? County Council will say yes.

2246
03:19:41,730 --> 03:19:48,640
Second. We have a motion in a second. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.

2247
03:19:50,170 --> 03:19:55,850
And we still have 15 minutes. Let's see if we can get through our weekly calendars. So 7.1 we'll

2248
03:19:55,850 --> 03:19:56,910
start with Supervisor Green.

2249
03:20:00,400 --> 03:20:11,040
I guess I'm sharing next week. It's not meeting with CAO Parker. What is the chair normally meet with CAO Parker, CAO Parker?

2250
03:20:14,880 --> 03:20:23,920
I guess we'll get back to me on that. Okay. Big Valley is having a grand opening of their fuel center and that's super exciting.

2251
03:20:23,920 --> 03:20:31,200
11. The two I believe it is. I see a special meeting of first five Lake in the afternoon.

2252
03:20:32,120 --> 03:20:40,020
I hope that's in Lakeport. I have a medical appointment on Thursday. I'm alternate but on Monday

2253
03:20:40,020 --> 03:20:46,940
I see a meeting for Blue Ribbon Committee. Is that right? Yeah. And, uh, to be included. Okay.

2254
03:20:47,680 --> 03:20:53,180
I guess I'll be meeting with CAO Parker. Also on Monday and probably sometime maybe lucky Friday

2255
03:20:53,180 --> 03:20:55,640
the 13th to go over agenda stuff.

2256
03:20:56,700 --> 03:20:58,060
And that's about all I got.

2257
03:20:58,440 --> 03:21:00,280
So I'm actually going to cut off our calendars.

2258
03:21:00,520 --> 03:21:02,060
I see that I don't have my glasses,

2259
03:21:02,100 --> 03:21:04,280
but I believe it's director Jones that just came in.

2260
03:21:04,320 --> 03:21:05,780
I want to make sure we get to her item.

2261
03:21:05,980 --> 03:21:07,540
She's been waiting all day, and I apologize

2262
03:21:07,540 --> 03:21:09,200
that we could not get to it earlier.

2263
03:21:09,960 --> 03:21:14,420
And so we're going to shift over to item 7.4.

2264
03:21:14,580 --> 03:21:16,380
Consideration of agreement between County of Lake

2265
03:21:16,380 --> 03:21:21,760
and Archway recovery services for ASAM levels 3.13.23.3.35.

2266
03:21:21,760 --> 03:21:27,680
and with draw management levels one and two in the amount of $1,750,000 for fiscal year

2267
03:21:28,300 --> 03:21:29,500
2425, director Jones.

2268
03:21:29,960 --> 03:21:31,580
Thank you so much, Chair Spatier.

2269
03:21:32,620 --> 03:21:36,660
As your board in the community is aware, like Kenny Behavioral Health Services joined the

2270
03:21:36,660 --> 03:21:41,280
Drug Medical Organized Delivery System on July 1st of this year.

2271
03:21:42,520 --> 03:21:49,660
Probably we are six months in, one of our biggest barriers to overcome for successful implementation

2272
03:21:49,660 --> 03:21:55,380
was detoxification, residential treatment services, so there are people who need medical

2273
03:21:55,380 --> 03:22:00,600
level intervention and a residential setting to get healthy and were required by the state

2274
03:22:00,600 --> 03:22:07,640
to provide that service. Those services are the costs are enumerated in the contract. Their

2275
03:22:07,640 --> 03:22:17,940
industry standard, we did a request for qualifications from all continues, counties,

2276
03:22:17,940 --> 03:22:26,120
Contiguous to Lake County who are licensed with a state to provide these services and did outreach to them to determine if they would do that if they would contract with us

2277
03:22:26,120 --> 03:22:29,840
And so this represents the first a contract that's a result of that

2278
03:22:30,400 --> 03:22:36,860
Request for qualifications process and we're very excited to bring this service on board for our benefit series. Thank you

2279
03:22:37,740 --> 03:22:38,860
Thank you very much

2280
03:22:38,860 --> 03:22:41,160
Do you the site? It's in Fairfield?

2281
03:22:41,800 --> 03:22:46,760
Yes, they have their corporate office there and then they actually have a

2282
03:22:46,760 --> 03:22:52,720
campus, a treatment campus, on the state hospital campus, and they're expanding facilities.

2283
03:22:53,120 --> 03:22:55,820
So that's where their main business administration is in forfield.

2284
03:22:56,220 --> 03:22:57,160
Thank you very much.

2285
03:22:57,460 --> 03:23:00,340
Are there any questions and comments from board members?

2286
03:23:00,540 --> 03:23:02,220
Supervisor Green?

2287
03:23:03,200 --> 03:23:05,560
Just the acronym I know recognize ASM.

2288
03:23:06,020 --> 03:23:07,120
Oh yes.

2289
03:23:08,340 --> 03:23:12,860
Addiction Society, but you got me on the $100 question there, sir.

2290
03:23:13,300 --> 03:23:15,640
It's the Society of Addiction Medicine and Treatment.

2291
03:23:15,640 --> 03:23:20,360
ACM is a nationally recognized and accredited standard of treatment.

2292
03:23:21,000 --> 03:23:23,780
So, these are levels of care?

2293
03:23:24,440 --> 03:23:30,080
Yes, it's a 3.7 specifically, ACM level 3.7.

2294
03:23:30,660 --> 03:23:32,640
Oh, that clarifies it. Thank you.

2295
03:23:35,880 --> 03:23:40,060
Just a brief question. I apologize for not asking this earlier to you.

2296
03:23:40,060 --> 03:23:46,380
How many patients are we looking that will be taken care of with this 1.75 million?

2297
03:23:46,920 --> 03:23:52,980
I don't see a breakdown of cost per hour. It's obviously going to be based on billables.

2298
03:23:53,420 --> 03:24:01,380
It is based on their availability. So we did not purchase or lease a bed. That's not a good business

2299
03:24:01,380 --> 03:24:08,740
practice. We're in a queue and when they have beds available, if they have one that's for late

2300
03:24:08,740 --> 03:24:14,760
county because they have to serve their home county first. They will reach out to other counties

2301
03:24:14,760 --> 03:24:18,720
and offer them a bed and then in a case-by-case basis not every person is right for the

2302
03:24:18,720 --> 03:24:23,200
same type of program so that's why it's nice to have a variety of different facilities and

2303
03:24:23,200 --> 03:24:31,900
millions so it's projected to be at very high utilization because we have incredible detoxification

2304
03:24:31,900 --> 03:24:38,460
needs so we wanted to make sure we had sufficient contract coverage to meet that anticipated

2305
03:24:39,300 --> 03:24:45,040
increasing demand. and then so we pay them for the services provided and we get

2306
03:24:45,040 --> 03:24:48,740
reimbursed through Medica that's correct. And is that at a at a hundred percent.

2307
03:24:49,300 --> 03:24:53,460
It is at a pass through depending upon that person's aid code whether or not

2308
03:24:53,460 --> 03:24:59,960
they have traditional Medica or American Expansion ACACACA.

2309
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:03,520
The coverage, it's a very complex algorithm, unfortunately.

2310
03:25:04,240 --> 03:25:10,300
Right. Okay. What we need this, but I'd love to see the outcomes and hear about how many patients,

2311
03:25:10,700 --> 03:25:17,760
how many people we sent over there, their success rates, and the overall reimbursement did we,

2312
03:25:19,640 --> 03:25:26,140
did we have a wash of what was spent and what we received, or what was the the loss to your department,

2313
03:25:26,140 --> 03:25:33,660
because of that, obviously, the community benefits and gains, but just until we can't know

2314
03:25:33,660 --> 03:25:34,960
for sure, but this is needed.

2315
03:25:35,740 --> 03:25:44,320
So, Mr. Chair, if I may, in response, you may be, you're familiar with the EQRO assessment

2316
03:25:44,320 --> 03:25:47,900
that all the acronyms have gone from my mind for some reason.

2317
03:25:48,840 --> 03:25:50,460
But anyways, it's an annual assessment.

2318
03:25:50,620 --> 03:25:54,100
It's a health check on our mental health plan, so you've seen it for our mental health plan.

2319
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:59,560
Well, as opting into the drug medical ODS, now it's a combined EQRO.

2320
03:26:00,040 --> 03:26:02,990
So you'll get a total health plan report next time.

2321
03:26:04,500 --> 03:26:08,240
The ODS thing has made some great changes, so really happy that we made those changes.

2322
03:26:08,440 --> 03:26:13,200
So thank you so much. Big number, but big needs. So we'll take a look at that and

2323
03:26:13,200 --> 03:26:19,520
happy to prove this and move it forward. Opening up for public comments. Anyone wishes to speak on this item.

2324
03:26:20,680 --> 03:26:27,080
I see no movement in the chamber, I see no hands in the zoom room, bring it back to the board for action.

2325
03:26:29,340 --> 03:26:38,220
Mr. Chair, I move to approval agreement between County of Lake and archway recovery services for ASM levels 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.5.

2326
03:26:38,580 --> 03:26:47,440
And withdrawal management levels 1 into an amount of $1,750,000 for fiscal year 2425 in authorized board chair to sign the agreement.

2327
03:26:47,440 --> 03:26:49,920
We have a motion in a second.

2328
03:26:50,100 --> 03:26:50,580
I'll in favor.

2329
03:26:51,180 --> 03:26:51,320
Aye.

2330
03:26:51,500 --> 03:26:52,260
Any opposed?

2331
03:26:52,700 --> 03:26:53,380
Motion carries.

2332
03:26:53,980 --> 03:26:57,400
Thank you for coming back and glad we were able to get you in.

2333
03:26:58,000 --> 03:27:02,280
I see that Mr. Barnes is also in the back, so let's go ahead and take up item 7.5.

2334
03:27:02,480 --> 03:27:06,220
Consideration of a resolution approving a memorandum of understanding between the regions

2335
03:27:06,220 --> 03:27:09,900
of the University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources and the County of Lake

2336
03:27:09,900 --> 03:27:14,640
for a partnership for the provision of the University of California Cooperative Extension Program

2337
03:27:14,640 --> 03:27:19,320
I'm an authorizing the County Administrative Officer to sign the MOU on behalf of the county.

2338
03:27:20,020 --> 03:27:23,920
We have Mr. Carter and Mr. Barnes from UC Extension.

2339
03:27:47,710 --> 03:27:48,490
That's very different.

2340
03:28:16,400 --> 03:28:16,860
There we go.

2341
03:28:17,360 --> 03:28:17,680
Good afternoon.

2342
03:28:18,540 --> 03:28:19,080
Good afternoon.

2343
03:28:20,000 --> 03:28:20,540
Good afternoon.

2344
03:28:20,880 --> 03:28:20,920
Board.

2345
03:28:21,080 --> 03:28:23,220
Thank you for your time today.

2346
03:28:24,280 --> 03:28:25,760
Matthew Barnes County Director.

2347
03:28:25,760 --> 03:28:34,900
slash area director, UCCE, late county, here today to present the partnership agreement between

2348
03:28:34,900 --> 03:28:40,140
the University of California Cooperative Extension and the county of Blake for the term

2349
03:28:40,140 --> 03:28:43,600
of 2025 to 2030.

2350
03:28:55,220 --> 03:29:01,740
Okay, so before we get started, just want to acknowledge the Cooperative Extension Office

2351
03:29:01,740 --> 03:29:23,420
the UC grants and contracts department for their assistance on this. Also appreciations for the guidance and support of CAO Parker and the admin office and to the board who provided valuable input during the process of putting this together.

2352
03:29:24,760 --> 03:29:35,100
Today I'm just going to go over a bit of historical context, how we've got here, and just a few key innovations that we've updated in the MLU.

2353
03:29:41,230 --> 03:29:56,850
So the historical context here, the partnership is long-standing since 1921 University of California Cooperative Extension, part of the Land Grant University System.

2354
03:29:56,850 --> 03:29:59,970
So our farm advisors have...

2355
03:30:00,080 --> 03:30:08,800
I have been here in Lake County consulting and providing research throughout the evolution of Lake County's agricultural journey.

2356
03:30:12,560 --> 03:30:25,560
Currently, we're working off of the 1963 MOU that provided the foundational partnership for the how we work together.

2357
03:30:25,560 --> 03:30:28,660
So today,

2358
03:30:33,540 --> 03:30:54,280
with this new MOU, we hope to provide a advanced structure and program plan that's going to ensure that the enduring impact here is driven for the next five years and then building off that through

2359
03:30:54,280 --> 03:31:00,100
Lake County's agriculture, youth development, and into sustainable land stewardship.

2360
03:31:06,450 --> 03:31:13,690
So the first key innovation here in the updated MOU, we plan to strengthen our communication

2361
03:31:13,690 --> 03:31:18,530
and reporting to the Board of Supervisors and also to the community.

2362
03:31:20,230 --> 03:31:27,930
We, in Section 3F, you'll find that under our responsibilities we will be reporting a detailed

2363
03:31:27,930 --> 03:31:36,970
plan of work and a for the upcoming year and a detailed report of work for the previous year.

2364
03:31:37,170 --> 03:31:43,630
This expands on the summary of work that we currently provide.

2365
03:31:47,590 --> 03:31:49,910
Through advance outreach and

2366
03:31:49,910 --> 03:31:57,090
communication we hope the result will be further collaborations within county departments and

2367
03:31:57,090 --> 03:32:05,910
with county stakeholders, so our report of work can be informed and collaborative.

2368
03:32:16,580 --> 03:32:26,440
The rest of the innovations here can be found in attachment A, which is our program plan

2369
03:32:26,440 --> 03:32:30,940
of work and integration of research-based expertise.

2370
03:32:30,940 --> 03:32:46,680
What we want to do is collaborate with the county and the county departments at the planning level, whether that be RFP planning, program planning.

2371
03:32:47,140 --> 03:32:54,680
So we can provide a cost savings for the county through access to our most up to date research and expertise.

2372
03:33:03,130 --> 03:33:15,590
Next, and this would be a first for cooperative extensions out of the 58 counties we serve is to include an emergency response support in our MOU.

2373
03:33:16,150 --> 03:33:30,530
So what we envision here is providing technical expertise in post recovery services, whether that be a fire and earthquake, environmental impacts.

2374
03:33:30,530 --> 03:33:39,370
So, an example of that would be areas like soil and water testing and in post recovery, agricultural

2375
03:33:39,370 --> 03:33:40,730
impact assessments,

2376
03:33:43,230 --> 03:33:51,390
the our viticulture advisor is currently doing studies on smoke tank

2377
03:33:51,390 --> 03:33:56,550
for great vines, so that's something that has been common.

2378
03:33:56,550 --> 03:33:57,510
So the

2379
03:33:59,680 --> 03:34:06,220
role would remain advisory and align with our mission and resources.

2380
03:34:13,520 --> 03:34:23,160
Also first in the 58 counties we serve would be to include the Tribal Nations Collaborations.

2381
03:34:23,920 --> 03:34:35,080
Remaining an advisory role, we want to respect tribal sovereignty and build our collaborative

2382
03:34:35,080 --> 03:34:38,100
efforts with the tribes of Lake County.

2383
03:34:40,680 --> 03:34:47,360
We believe that doing this will facilitate collaborative projects with the county and

2384
03:34:48,120 --> 03:34:54,300
we can really be the bridge between some of the environmental impact projects.

2385
03:35:00,370 --> 03:35:14,530
So, beginning in January, we'll be launching our next 100 years campaign in Lake County, enhancing public outreach with materials that align with our board presentations.

2386
03:35:15,670 --> 03:35:27,790
We would like to schedule monthly presentations here to the board that will showcase each of our academic advisors as well as our programs.

2387
03:35:27,790 --> 03:35:28,710
And

2388
03:35:34,180 --> 03:35:59,500
overall, as you know, it's been about six months since I've been here, but from what I've seen in Lake County is just really collaborative with our programs, from the pair and walnut boards to the wine alliance to our board itself, it's I think there is a bright future of collaboration here.

2389
03:35:59,500 --> 03:36:04,900
So with that, I will open up to any specific questions or concerns.

2390
03:36:05,700 --> 03:36:06,220
Thank you, Mr. Barnes.

2391
03:36:06,580 --> 03:36:07,220
Supervisor Piska.

2392
03:36:08,780 --> 03:36:14,840
So I appreciate this presentation, building on the meeting that we had.

2393
03:36:15,180 --> 03:36:19,660
Supervisor Simon and I had with you and your team about the month ago or so.

2394
03:36:20,280 --> 03:36:26,120
And I think bringing those board presentations monthly, so that we're really aware of what the new programs are,

2395
03:36:26,120 --> 03:36:30,680
the new board members are aware, our new directors, we have a lot of new staff, I think

2396
03:36:30,680 --> 03:36:33,480
there are a lot of ways that we can collaborate and cross support.

2397
03:36:34,560 --> 03:36:36,420
So thank you for squeezing that in.

2398
03:36:36,500 --> 03:36:39,940
I know that was probably the biggest thing that came out of our meeting today.

2399
03:36:40,640 --> 03:36:40,820
Absolutely.

2400
03:36:43,510 --> 03:36:45,030
Yeah, so thank you.

2401
03:36:45,330 --> 03:36:45,690
I'm great.

2402
03:36:46,370 --> 03:36:46,990
Supervisor Green.

2403
03:36:48,030 --> 03:36:52,830
You're just a technical point, so there's a Reso and there's an MOU and within the

2404
03:36:52,830 --> 03:36:56,930
we authorized CAO Parker to sign the MOU,

2405
03:36:57,550 --> 03:37:00,850
but on the Reso, I see signature lines for CAO Parker's

2406
03:37:00,850 --> 03:37:03,910
the clerk to the board and also for the board chair

2407
03:37:03,910 --> 03:37:05,390
to sign the Reso like normal.

2408
03:37:06,110 --> 03:37:08,290
So it all looks right, but I just want to make sure

2409
03:37:08,290 --> 03:37:10,350
all the signature lines are right, and that the,

2410
03:37:10,510 --> 03:37:12,370
you won't be emotional, just be offering the

2411
03:37:12,370 --> 03:37:13,710
resolution will be sufficient.

2412
03:37:14,950 --> 03:37:15,450
Yes?

2413
03:37:15,870 --> 03:37:15,990
No?

2414
03:37:16,850 --> 03:37:18,390
It would be sufficient, yes.

2415
03:37:18,970 --> 03:37:20,230
I believe so.

2416
03:37:21,770 --> 03:37:26,990
everything looks good to me I learned a little bit by just even reading

2417
03:37:26,990 --> 03:37:32,790
over the MOU in the first place looks like you get funding twice a year and then

2418
03:37:32,790 --> 03:37:37,090
that's how you expend the funds that we have. There was conversation at

2419
03:37:37,090 --> 03:37:42,150
least or on the memo it brought up financials but this doesn't change the budget

2420
03:37:42,150 --> 03:37:48,610
process that we already have just what's things in writing correct okay I just wanted

2421
03:37:48,610 --> 03:37:53,590
check on that just because that's important to make sure we understand that there is one small

2422
03:37:53,590 --> 03:37:57,430
typo that I just want to make sure when we offer the resolution it's as amended and the second

2423
03:37:57,430 --> 03:38:03,570
line it should say agriculture and natural resources and if we can just get that into the

2424
03:38:03,570 --> 03:38:09,570
offering of the resolution as amended that would be great and if there's nothing further let's

2425
03:38:09,570 --> 03:38:17,520
open it up for public comment if we Johanna is it possible to stop sharing the screen thank you

2426
03:38:17,520 --> 03:38:21,340
Please come on up.

2427
03:38:25,030 --> 03:38:25,310
Good afternoon.

2428
03:38:25,650 --> 03:38:27,110
My name is Ron Montez.

2429
03:38:28,850 --> 03:38:30,530
Well, actually, I run Montez.

2430
03:38:31,390 --> 03:38:33,470
Luchica, Gabena Boy.

2431
03:38:35,090 --> 03:38:36,150
My name is Ron Montez.

2432
03:38:36,350 --> 03:38:38,690
I'm an elder from the Gabena Boy Tribe,

2433
03:38:39,190 --> 03:38:42,930
which you know as the Mission or Big Valley Rancheria.

2434
03:38:43,910 --> 03:38:50,570
My questions on this was a heard portion of this presentation

2435
03:38:50,570 --> 03:39:00,870
was to have a cooperative relationship with tribal communities and their involvement in the

2436
03:39:00,870 --> 03:39:10,010
processes that are in place for the funding to go forward with everyone's recommendation and so on.

2437
03:39:10,190 --> 03:39:20,490
Now I was wondering that in my area of knowledge, I don't know of any relationships that are built.

2438
03:39:20,570 --> 03:39:31,610
that I know of personally, I hear things, and I hear things about structures that bypass

2439
03:39:31,610 --> 03:39:40,530
a lot of the main tribal input, and it looks good on the outside, but there's a missing

2440
03:39:40,530 --> 03:39:47,630
component in a lot of those, but I just wanted to make sure that you're aware of the perception

2441
03:39:47,630 --> 03:39:53,830
in our travel communities is not involvement with you.

2442
03:39:54,270 --> 03:39:58,890
It is very limited in that place of involvement.

2443
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:13,360
To access any of the benefits or to have any input into those services or those ways of working with the agricultural community that would benefit our people.

2444
03:40:13,360 --> 03:40:24,400
The only benefit we have, that's far, is to work labor, manual labor, and no place to

2445
03:40:24,400 --> 03:40:30,860
do we make decisions on how and on the long nets and the grapes or any of those things

2446
03:40:30,860 --> 03:40:36,940
are to be handled or not much information at all on my level.

2447
03:40:37,600 --> 03:41:06,740
And I'm not sure what is in place because of I'm just now coming to be aware that this is in place and it's so it's kind of a question for me that maybe after this you can enlighten me a little bit more on how that would impact our tribal communities because we want to be involved from every level so that we have a table or place at the table

2448
03:41:06,740 --> 03:41:14,800
to hear and to offer our input and to hear. We are living in a time of trying to make our

2449
03:41:14,800 --> 03:41:21,740
nation a place of unity and strength that we could move forward as one people. And we need

2450
03:41:21,740 --> 03:41:29,440
to be included in those decisions and the information that flows so that we can stand with you

2451
03:41:29,440 --> 03:41:36,180
and you stand with us so that we can see the same things and encourage one another to make

2452
03:41:36,180 --> 03:41:41,580
good decisions. That's just my input. Thank you. Thank you for your comment.

2453
03:41:42,140 --> 03:41:45,700
So, Barnes, would you like to respond on what your plan is for that?

2454
03:41:46,180 --> 03:41:51,980
Yeah, absolutely. And thank you for your comment. As a representative of the UC Cooperative

2455
03:41:51,980 --> 03:42:01,760
Extension, I agree 100% and I see the same thing from the university and the university itself

2456
03:42:01,760 --> 03:42:10,800
also sees that they have put forth a report called the land grab document, which details

2457
03:42:10,800 --> 03:42:18,940
the origins of the UC Cooperative Extension System, and by putting this into the county

2458
03:42:18,940 --> 03:42:26,520
and MOU is the first step of what's going to be ongoing outreach with each individual tribe,

2459
03:42:26,520 --> 03:42:43,740
Not necessarily with the goal of advising and per se, but listening first and seeing where the collaborations are and where our academic advisors and programs can add value for each tribe.

2460
03:42:44,340 --> 03:42:45,920
So, thank you for your comment.

2461
03:42:47,100 --> 03:42:53,700
Thank you for your response, and I think that's the value of also having you come and report to the board where we can ask where we are with that and what's happening.

2462
03:42:53,700 --> 03:42:58,800
rather than talking about it, and then watching it just not ever go anywhere.

2463
03:42:59,320 --> 03:43:00,220
So, I agree.

2464
03:43:01,660 --> 03:43:02,760
There's no further comments.

2465
03:43:02,800 --> 03:43:06,780
Let's go ahead and bring it back to the board and looking for action again with that amendment.

2466
03:43:07,420 --> 03:43:08,780
I offer the resolution of the amendment.

2467
03:43:09,320 --> 03:43:10,360
Resolution has been offered.

2468
03:43:12,280 --> 03:43:13,500
For a razor, oh wait.

2469
03:43:13,780 --> 03:43:14,580
Yeah, we're super much.

2470
03:43:14,820 --> 03:43:15,280
Super much.

2471
03:43:15,820 --> 03:43:15,880
Yes.

2472
03:43:16,460 --> 03:43:17,220
Super much.

2473
03:43:17,860 --> 03:43:18,540
Super much.

2474
03:43:19,140 --> 03:43:19,640
Super much.

2475
03:43:19,640 --> 03:43:19,940
Super much.

2476
03:43:19,940 --> 03:43:20,440
Mr. Pisco?

2477
03:43:21,560 --> 03:43:22,620
And Supervisor Svott here.

2478
03:43:24,620 --> 03:43:25,160
Thank you both.

2479
03:43:25,480 --> 03:43:25,940
Thank you, Board.

2480
03:43:31,800 --> 03:43:33,640
Glad we were able to get through those.

2481
03:43:34,160 --> 03:43:41,340
We are now going to our six-eleven item, one-thirty PM, a consideration of a draft response to the

2482
03:43:41,340 --> 03:43:46,220
United States Board on geographic names, domestic names, committee regarding citizens for healings

2483
03:43:46,220 --> 03:43:49,720
proposal to change the name of Kelsey Will to Kanakdai.

2484
03:43:49,720 --> 03:43:56,260
be modify and approve the BGN standard recommendation form for submittal with your boards of response.

2485
03:43:57,220 --> 03:43:57,840
CAO Parker.

2486
03:44:00,000 --> 03:44:00,860
Thank you.

2487
03:44:00,960 --> 03:44:01,380
Excuse me.

2488
03:44:01,660 --> 03:44:02,080
Thank you, Chair.

2489
03:44:02,520 --> 03:44:06,220
Matthew Chief Deputy County Administrative Officer.

2490
03:44:07,000 --> 03:44:11,820
Matthew Rothstein will be presenting his item and then your board will take on discussion.

2491
03:44:14,600 --> 03:44:15,620
Good afternoon, supervisors.

2492
03:44:16,520 --> 03:44:19,320
Matthew Rothstein Chief Deputy County Administrative Officer.

2493
03:44:19,320 --> 03:44:23,420
Thank you all for your leadership and persistence today.

2494
03:44:24,200 --> 03:44:31,440
On Tuesday, July 30, 2024, your board acted to place county-wide advisory measure you on

2495
03:44:31,440 --> 03:44:34,060
the November ballot, asking the following question.

2496
03:44:34,840 --> 03:44:39,560
Shall the Board of Supervisors recommend approval of the proposal to change the name of the

2497
03:44:39,560 --> 03:44:41,860
town of Kelseaville to Knochtai?

2498
03:44:41,860 --> 03:44:50,860
Lake County registered voters have posed the proposal by a margin of 70.58% to 29.42%.

2499
03:44:51,520 --> 03:44:58,880
Because the vote was advisory in nature, staff prepared the letter attached to your agenda initially with re-options.

2500
03:44:59,440 --> 03:44:59,980
I'm John Kerry.

2501
03:45:12,840 --> 03:45:33,020
We'll continue in, Johanna, we'll project that as soon as able. Option 1, before your board would recommend the board on geographic names is domestic names committee reject the proposed name change adopting the result of advisory measure you while acknowledging some moral questions cannot be answered with a simple yes or no vote.

2502
03:45:33,020 --> 03:45:38,560
Option two would recommend approval of the proposed name change.

2503
03:45:39,460 --> 03:45:47,740
Option three would make no formal recommendation to the board on geographic names or BGN for reasons described in the text.

2504
03:45:48,840 --> 03:45:58,040
And in the time since the agenda and attachments were posted, staff have also prepared an option for your board's consideration and it reads as follows.

2505
03:45:58,040 --> 03:46:07,100
In response to advisory measure you, Lake County residents demonstrated clear opposition to the proposed name change.

2506
03:46:07,760 --> 03:46:13,080
Our board hereby adopts the result of this vote as the county of Lake's formal recommendation.

2507
03:46:15,640 --> 03:46:22,740
And while this is ultimately not a county of Lake facilitated process and the BGN will make a determination,

2508
03:46:23,400 --> 03:46:30,320
A portal has additionally been developed to share public comments received by the county with state and federal naming authorities.

2509
03:46:31,080 --> 03:46:34,260
This was done to ensure that your voices are represented.

2510
03:46:36,380 --> 03:46:43,160
We truly appreciate that so many of you have taken time to share your perspectives hundreds over the course of several months.

2511
03:46:44,480 --> 03:46:46,340
And thank you all for doing that.

2512
03:46:46,920 --> 03:46:50,360
Now the county administrative office staff welcomes your boards discussion.

2513
03:46:50,940 --> 03:46:51,700
Thank you.

2514
03:46:51,700 --> 03:46:54,180
Thank you for introducing the item.

2515
03:46:56,700 --> 03:47:01,620
I will set some parameters for the public comments when we get to public comment.

2516
03:47:01,820 --> 03:47:04,780
But just to let you know, I am planning to give everybody last time.

2517
03:47:04,860 --> 03:47:05,440
I did two minutes.

2518
03:47:05,600 --> 03:47:06,600
I am going to do three minutes.

2519
03:47:06,700 --> 03:47:09,500
I want to make sure that everybody has the time.

2520
03:47:09,780 --> 03:47:13,580
I'm hoping this is the last discussion we have with this.

2521
03:47:13,600 --> 03:47:16,480
I want to make sure everybody has the time to express themselves fully.

2522
03:47:17,560 --> 03:47:20,560
And whatever time is needed to ensure that we hear from everybody.

2523
03:47:20,560 --> 03:47:26,240
I just want everybody to walk away knowing that they've been heard and that we listened to what you had to say.

2524
03:47:26,720 --> 03:47:32,520
I do want to open it up for public comment. Sorry for the board's comments before public comment.

2525
03:47:32,780 --> 03:47:35,940
In case that there's anything that the board wishes to state.

2526
03:47:38,320 --> 03:47:39,220
Ready to hear public comment.

2527
03:47:40,060 --> 03:47:40,980
Supervisor Piscke.

2528
03:47:45,770 --> 03:47:50,290
So I want to start by acknowledging how difficult this year has been on all of us.

2529
03:47:50,550 --> 03:47:52,170
We've really been through the ringer.

2530
03:47:52,170 --> 03:47:57,970
I've spent this year pushing both the federal and state committees to show up and do their part,

2531
03:47:58,250 --> 03:48:04,370
which they did not. Their lack of support made this process far more difficult and hurt all of us.

2532
03:48:05,030 --> 03:48:09,450
I also spent this year sitting with and listening to people on all sides of this issue.

2533
03:48:10,130 --> 03:48:15,030
And I want to thank you. I want to thank everybody that gave me that opportunity. I heard you

2534
03:48:15,030 --> 03:48:22,850
value your perspective. This process was asked to do the work of healing, yet the application

2535
03:48:22,850 --> 03:48:29,570
was submitted without the consent of many of the people who are most affected and without the

2536
03:48:29,570 --> 03:48:37,350
support of the community. The true work of healing comes from the people when all voices are represented,

2537
03:48:37,450 --> 03:48:43,790
represented, and decisions are made together. This type of work is slow because building trust

2538
03:48:43,790 --> 03:48:47,170
and listening and showing up takes time.

2539
03:48:47,630 --> 03:48:53,290
Submitting this application bypass the opportunity to do this work and we are stuck in a bureaucratic

2540
03:48:53,290 --> 03:48:58,190
process and the final decision will be made by those who will never even come here.

2541
03:49:00,340 --> 03:49:04,000
We asked the people to participate and they did.

2542
03:49:04,340 --> 03:49:07,440
The vote of the people is on record and it needs to be honored.

2543
03:49:08,560 --> 03:49:14,640
Our dark and painful histories out in the open now and how we move forward to reconcile

2544
03:49:14,640 --> 03:49:22,140
is up to all of us. This year has changed us and changed us hard. Regardless of how we got here,

2545
03:49:22,360 --> 03:49:29,200
we are growing and we are changing. I have been very clear on my position for years and I will keep my promise

2546
03:49:29,200 --> 03:49:35,740
to remain neutral because we have no idea what the final decision will be and I need to represent

2547
03:49:35,740 --> 03:49:43,240
all of my constituents. We need to heal together. My commitment is to my community where everyone

2548
03:49:43,240 --> 03:49:45,020
has seen, heard, and valued.

2549
03:49:45,780 --> 03:49:51,020
What is important for me today is that we respect the vote of the people, and I keep my

2550
03:49:51,020 --> 03:49:52,400
promise to remain neutral.

2551
03:49:52,960 --> 03:49:57,580
So I'm offering another option, a little bit different than what you presented.

2552
03:49:58,960 --> 03:49:59,980
So here is...

2553
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:10,400
My suggestion, our board is forwarding the vote of the people for your committee's consideration and no further formal recommendation will be made in this federal process.

2554
03:50:13,500 --> 03:50:14,360
Thank you for your comment.

2555
03:50:15,820 --> 03:50:16,860
Supervisor Green.

2556
03:50:18,620 --> 03:50:20,020
Thank you for that.

2557
03:50:20,460 --> 03:50:31,380
Just to clarify, so Matthew, I heard an option for, which I thought was roughly analogous to option one and now you submitted language, which was different than option four, I think.

2558
03:50:31,380 --> 03:50:40,720
So, can you clarify what the option four was and how it relates to option one and then you clarify whether that's option four is something you were interested in?

2559
03:50:40,920 --> 03:50:47,320
So, option four was effectively a simplified version in a sense of option one.

2560
03:50:47,600 --> 03:50:51,980
There was some language which was redundant with content that appears earlier in the letter.

2561
03:50:52,860 --> 03:50:56,520
In a sensor could be argued to be redundant with content earlier in the letter.

2562
03:50:56,520 --> 03:51:01,520
So it's a simplified version that says in response to advisory measure you.

2563
03:51:01,960 --> 03:51:05,720
Lake County Residence demonstrated clear opposition to the proposed name change.

2564
03:51:06,280 --> 03:51:11,120
Our board hereby adopts the result of this vote as the county of Lake's formal recommendation.

2565
03:51:12,820 --> 03:51:16,760
And then supervisor PISCA is option 5 just read moments ago.

2566
03:51:17,460 --> 03:51:22,100
Our board is forwarding the vote of the people for your committee's consideration.

2567
03:51:22,100 --> 03:51:27,000
And no further formal recommendation will be made in this process.

2568
03:51:35,120 --> 03:51:37,780
Any further comments before we open up for public comment?

2569
03:51:40,960 --> 03:51:50,520
So I want to provide at least some opinion on things just so that in case public comment comes back.

2570
03:51:50,820 --> 03:51:56,840
I don't want to say these things after the fact or else you may feel like you have not had the chance to respond.

2571
03:52:00,150 --> 03:52:07,770
I still feel the exact same way I felt when this first came along, which was actually brought to me about six years ago.

2572
03:52:07,910 --> 03:52:10,990
I want to say, so this has been a very long conversation.

2573
03:52:11,510 --> 03:52:13,350
In fact, that's just me six years ago.

2574
03:52:13,390 --> 03:52:15,310
This conversation has been going on for much longer.

2575
03:52:15,490 --> 03:52:16,710
It's just coming to a head.

2576
03:52:19,570 --> 03:52:26,970
I have changed and I have grown, I guess, maybe for some others, it might be the reverse.

2577
03:52:28,330 --> 03:52:37,710
Like, I used to think that if you change a name or if you take down a statue that you're not a racing history,

2578
03:52:37,950 --> 03:52:40,150
you can't erase what has happened.

2579
03:52:41,170 --> 03:52:47,550
We know of things that we read in our history books that are gone.

2580
03:52:48,870 --> 03:52:50,870
And so history lasts forever.

2581
03:52:50,870 --> 03:52:58,230
in the fact that there's stories, there's written documentation of it, whatever the case

2582
03:52:58,230 --> 03:53:00,070
might be to keep that history alive.

2583
03:53:01,570 --> 03:53:05,630
And then I thought about it for a while and I decided maybe I'm wrong.

2584
03:53:06,610 --> 03:53:09,870
And I have to look at my phone because I want to make sure I say the name right.

2585
03:53:10,950 --> 03:53:16,850
And I could be wrong, but based on research and conversations, there was a native village in

2586
03:53:16,850 --> 03:53:19,870
area of Kelseaville called Habenipo.

2587
03:53:20,970 --> 03:53:23,050
I hope that's correct, and I hope I say it right.

2588
03:53:24,350 --> 03:53:26,850
And it was really hard to find that name.

2589
03:53:27,030 --> 03:53:28,770
And it was really hard to find that name

2590
03:53:28,770 --> 03:53:30,330
because that name no longer exists.

2591
03:53:30,390 --> 03:53:32,050
That village no longer exists.

2592
03:53:33,050 --> 03:53:36,690
And so it is possible that if we change the name of Kelseaville,

2593
03:53:37,250 --> 03:53:39,830
that some of that history that comes along with it,

2594
03:53:39,830 --> 03:53:43,770
whether good or bad, goes with it.

2595
03:53:43,770 --> 03:53:54,030
And so my thought process was, I can't fix the past, how do I find ways to solve the future?

2596
03:53:54,590 --> 03:54:00,010
And I hate what this has done to us because it's put us in a situation of an ultimatum.

2597
03:54:00,350 --> 03:54:03,450
It's either option A or B and I think if you always give people an ultimatum,

2598
03:54:04,650 --> 03:54:08,410
people are going to put up a defensive wall. It doesn't open up for conversation.

2599
03:54:08,410 --> 03:54:10,530
And it doesn't open up for dialogue.

2600
03:54:12,050 --> 03:54:15,050
You are stuck with the options that are in front of you.

2601
03:54:16,310 --> 03:54:19,150
I will tell you that I voted no on this when I voted.

2602
03:54:19,270 --> 03:54:21,210
And I didn't vote no, because I don't want to see the name change.

2603
03:54:21,210 --> 03:54:22,790
I do want to see the name change.

2604
03:54:23,150 --> 03:54:25,150
But I vote no, because I don't think it needs to be conacti,

2605
03:54:25,170 --> 03:54:28,090
because I don't like how we got to that name.

2606
03:54:28,110 --> 03:54:29,930
And I don't think it's the appropriate name.

2607
03:54:32,320 --> 03:54:36,480
And so my options that I'm looking at originally,

2608
03:54:36,480 --> 03:54:47,880
Because, again, I've grown because of things that have happened is I was hoping that we can end up in a place where we can have a dash in the name like people do in their marriage and call it Kelseyville.

2609
03:54:48,140 --> 03:54:50,660
I gotta say it right, and I apologize.

2610
03:54:53,340 --> 03:54:55,160
Kelseyville dash, Abenipo.

2611
03:54:55,900 --> 03:54:59,780
Because the future is both people who have descendants.

2612
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:10,560
And connections to Kelseyville, and people who have connections to our native American tribes that have been here for 10,000 years, because we have to move forward.

2613
03:55:11,680 --> 03:55:25,800
But then we put it on the ballot, which I wish we had not, because that takes away from me what I feel are my choices, because I know it's right in my mind.

2614
03:55:25,800 --> 03:55:34,980
I think we need to find a way forward, a way together, and option A and B is not necessarily a way together because I have to choose one over the other.

2615
03:55:35,380 --> 03:55:40,580
I'm not here to choose one over the other. I'm here to figure out how to make our communities better for tomorrow.

2616
03:55:41,640 --> 03:55:54,000
But with what I expected to be this vote result, which is why I voted against putting it on the ballot, because we pretty much mimics the number of letters that we received for and against.

2617
03:55:54,000 --> 03:55:58,340
So it wasn't necessarily surprising to tell the people today

2618
03:55:58,340 --> 03:55:59,840
that their vote doesn't matter.

2619
03:56:00,200 --> 03:56:01,780
Then why do I come back here next Tuesday?

2620
03:56:04,060 --> 03:56:05,680
There's a reason that we're here.

2621
03:56:05,780 --> 03:56:08,360
There's a reason that we have this democratic process.

2622
03:56:08,880 --> 03:56:11,080
And if you guys start not believing in it,

2623
03:56:11,340 --> 03:56:13,460
because we tell you today, we don't care.

2624
03:56:14,960 --> 03:56:16,700
Then I don't know what my purpose is.

2625
03:56:16,840 --> 03:56:20,620
And I hate it because what's right yesterday

2626
03:56:21,320 --> 03:56:23,840
has been altered in what I can or can't do today

2627
03:56:23,840 --> 03:56:27,200
or else I break a system that I feel greatly about.

2628
03:56:28,800 --> 03:56:32,240
And so I hope that some people want to continue the discussion,

2629
03:56:32,500 --> 03:56:34,100
because I think there's a way forward.

2630
03:56:35,040 --> 03:56:37,840
But the options that are placed in front of me,

2631
03:56:41,600 --> 03:56:44,120
I'm hurting inside from the what we've done to ourselves

2632
03:56:44,120 --> 03:56:45,880
and what we can do.

2633
03:56:46,460 --> 03:56:49,460
I have heard some very racist things in this room.

2634
03:56:50,800 --> 03:56:54,980
And that is not what we should be hearing when we're talking about ourselves.

2635
03:56:56,920 --> 03:57:03,720
It's painful, and I don't know what else to say other than I was really hoping for options

2636
03:57:04,220 --> 03:57:10,520
C. And I'm going to tell you the truth. I've sat there. Supervisor Pyska was in the meeting

2637
03:57:10,520 --> 03:57:20,380
with me, and in my opinion, the BGN is going to change the name. And I see it in their eyes.

2638
03:57:20,800 --> 03:57:24,840
I could be wrong, but that's how I see them looking at us. When we're asking them questions

2639
03:57:24,840 --> 03:57:31,120
about the process, they're looking at us like we're the bigots for trying to question their

2640
03:57:31,120 --> 03:57:35,400
process. Let alone when we're trying to understand their process.

2641
03:57:37,540 --> 03:57:38,640
We've submitted it before,

2642
03:57:38,800 --> 03:57:43,400
where we said we wanted to approve Benny Hill over in middle town and they rejected that,

2643
03:57:43,420 --> 03:57:47,880
even though we approved this. So I don't know that our voice is all that truly important to them

2644
03:57:47,880 --> 03:57:59,000
is what they really want to do. But saying yes to a not chosen community name, saying yes to

2645
03:57:59,000 --> 03:58:05,060
something that tells one group that your history, because you moved here in 1950 or 1930

2646
03:58:05,060 --> 03:58:14,340
away after the fact of horrendous actions done by a family, people get connected to things. And

2647
03:58:14,980 --> 03:58:19,300
I don't want to look at either side and say your history is not one that I want to support

2648
03:58:19,920 --> 03:58:28,540
And I was really hoping that we can talk about the BGN process without going through an election process to figure out what is option C.

2649
03:58:29,840 --> 03:58:37,760
But with what we've done, I feel like I would be saying that our democratic values are not worthy and do not hold here.

2650
03:58:40,080 --> 03:58:43,920
And that would be destroying exactly what makes us us.

2651
03:58:45,320 --> 03:58:47,720
And I can't vote against that.

2652
03:58:47,720 --> 03:59:06,380
And I'm struggling inside, because we all in this room, we are the community, no matter how our differences may be in our history and I say this and I'm so disconnected, I'm an immigrant, I wasn't even born here,

2653
03:59:09,070 --> 03:59:10,750
and I wish we would have behaved differently.

2654
03:59:11,690 --> 03:59:20,830
It's sad, I'm saddened by the decisions that we've made that have limited our options of how it is that we can find a way to move forward.

2655
03:59:21,310 --> 03:59:23,190
I'm saddened by what I've heard in the community.

2656
03:59:23,630 --> 03:59:32,950
I'm saddened by what we've decided as this board because we've handcuffed ourselves in my opinion to either ruin who we are or make a bad decision.

2657
03:59:33,950 --> 03:59:34,850
That's not good choices.

2658
03:59:35,790 --> 03:59:37,610
we have better choices than this.

2659
03:59:43,780 --> 03:59:46,540
And with that, I'm going to open up public comment.

2660
03:59:47,720 --> 03:59:52,780
I want you guys, I'm going to give you the three full minutes, and I will cut you off

2661
03:59:52,780 --> 03:59:56,900
at three minutes, ask you to please finish your sentence, but I will ask you to stop talking

2662
03:59:56,900 --> 03:59:59,960
if you keep going. I do not want anything.

2663
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:07,140
Here any kind of hateful rhetoric or speech, as I will reserve the right to ask you to leave the building.

2664
04:00:08,780 --> 04:00:15,860
This is us representing a community in here, and I want you to respect one another. Please talk to us.

2665
04:00:15,900 --> 04:00:26,580
It is our decision. It is our doing. So please make sure we talk about the topic, or the Board of Supervisors, and not the individuals within our community.

2666
04:00:26,580 --> 04:00:30,720
Let's not continue to divide and separate ourselves, please.

2667
04:00:36,840 --> 04:00:37,140
Are we here?

2668
04:00:44,880 --> 04:00:47,780
Do you need us to take a quick break before we start public comment?

2669
04:00:51,870 --> 04:00:57,050
I apologize, but we're technical difficulties are continuing from this morning.

2670
04:00:58,090 --> 04:01:04,210
And let's go ahead and take a 10-minute break and then we will commence with our public comment.

2671
04:09:24,720 --> 04:09:34,120
All right, I apologize everybody for that technical difficulty but we are back. We hope to keep running smoothly for the rest of this session.

2672
04:09:35,360 --> 04:09:43,360
And so I left off where I was opening public comment and let's go ahead and start with the first speaker.

2673
04:09:43,980 --> 04:09:50,280
If you please let us know your name and then you have three minutes and Johanna will be helping us with that timing.

2674
04:09:50,280 --> 04:09:51,020
if

2675
04:09:56,520 --> 04:09:57,940
we have no public comment

2676
04:10:02,010 --> 04:10:08,610
And I am going to pause from time to time to go back and forth to make sure that those on Zoom don't feel ignored.

2677
04:10:09,470 --> 04:10:12,510
But I will always come back and make sure everybody gets to say their peace.

2678
04:10:12,730 --> 04:10:15,730
I just don't want people waiting for a long time when their hands are up.

2679
04:10:19,260 --> 04:10:22,860
And if you can grab the microphone and make sure that you speak into the microphone, that would be helpful.

2680
04:10:23,340 --> 04:10:25,160
Okay. My name is Carol Costa.

2681
04:10:26,200 --> 04:10:30,260
And I'm going to go ahead. I want to read the measure again one more time.

2682
04:10:30,260 --> 04:10:41,440
Shall the Board of Supervisors recommend approval of the proposal to change the name of the town of Kelsey Hills, a connoctite, sorry I'm kind of shaky here.

2683
04:10:42,040 --> 04:10:45,240
A no vote on this advisory is a measure.

2684
04:10:46,300 --> 04:11:00,100
No vote on this advisory measure is a vote against the county of Lake Board of Supervisors recommending approval of the proposal to change the name of the town of Kelseyville to connoctite.

2685
04:11:01,340 --> 04:11:08,900
As you know, 70.5% of the voters say no, that's the county wide voters.

2686
04:11:10,420 --> 04:11:16,780
No change to the name of Kelseyville is what you required to recommend, per measure

2687
04:11:16,780 --> 04:11:20,080
you, what I just read from the voters' pamphlet.

2688
04:11:22,500 --> 04:11:28,600
All five of you must honor the results of your constituents' votes, no name change.

2689
04:11:30,810 --> 04:11:43,350
And if you also, if you count the number of voters that did not vote at all, that brings up the number to 77% of the voters.

2690
04:11:46,140 --> 04:11:47,420
Okay, that's it.

2691
04:11:47,460 --> 04:11:48,300
Thank you for your comment.

2692
04:11:50,240 --> 04:11:51,280
Next, please.

2693
04:11:55,280 --> 04:11:56,200
Good afternoon.

2694
04:11:56,340 --> 04:11:57,800
My name is Lorna Sides.

2695
04:12:00,870 --> 04:12:12,250
And I just wanted to note that the people of Lake County have been victims of two very significant acts of fraud in regards to advisory measure you.

2696
04:12:12,930 --> 04:12:16,550
The following statement was published in our Lake County.

2697
04:12:16,670 --> 04:12:23,130
Of changing the name of Kelseyville would involve considerable administrative and financial burdens.

2698
04:12:23,130 --> 04:12:30,890
The expenses for updating property titles, the state plans business license and documents would be substantial.

2699
04:12:32,130 --> 04:12:37,890
The process in time consuming and complex causing delays in error and business operations.

2700
04:12:38,950 --> 04:12:44,310
Through. The title to my home will not need to be changed when the name changes.

2701
04:12:44,310 --> 04:12:50,090
My driver's license will still be valid, et cetera, et cetera.

2702
04:12:51,010 --> 04:12:54,370
This was a deliberate fraud upon the voters of Lake County.

2703
04:12:55,530 --> 04:12:58,690
And that was allowed to go into the voter guard like that.

2704
04:12:59,050 --> 04:13:04,630
Secondly, if anyone thought that our supervisors were beholden to uphold the will of the

2705
04:13:04,630 --> 04:13:07,690
majority of Lake County voters, they were scammed.

2706
04:13:08,850 --> 04:13:19,310
The supervisors are sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution, which protects the rights of all citizens to be safe from harm.

2707
04:13:21,010 --> 04:13:29,390
You spoke to this, Bruno, on July 30, this is what you spoke to exactly when you spoke in favor of the name change.

2708
04:13:29,390 --> 04:13:31,970
This is not a popularity contest.

2709
04:13:32,570 --> 04:13:39,230
This is a chance for the five of you to show leadership and to uphold the U.S. Constitution

2710
04:13:39,230 --> 04:13:44,510
to which you swore to to protect the rights of all citizens of the White County to be

2711
04:13:44,510 --> 04:13:45,450
safe from harm.

2712
04:13:47,510 --> 04:13:52,730
On July 30th of this year, this is in this very chamber, but now I came, Cromwell, Chairman

2713
04:13:52,730 --> 04:13:56,970
of Robinson Ranchery upon my Indians, asked for the name to be changed.

2714
04:13:56,970 --> 04:14:02,950
Flaming at Cloud Chairman of Big Valley Rancheria has repeatedly asked for the name to be changed

2715
04:14:02,950 --> 04:14:10,350
even though his stance is causing harm to some children who are getting hurt in this battle.

2716
04:14:12,800 --> 04:14:20,680
The Pamos were very kind. The Elim tribe said, please, yes, you have the permission to use their name

2717
04:14:20,680 --> 04:14:25,200
to give this beautiful name over to the county, to the community.

2718
04:14:25,200 --> 04:14:28,980
And the people, the community said, we don't want this.

2719
04:14:29,340 --> 04:14:32,940
We'd rather stand up and have a fight and protect our rights

2720
04:14:32,940 --> 04:14:39,140
to support this land that we stole and to protect our little community

2721
04:14:39,140 --> 04:14:45,520
and as businesses and the hell with the people who are being hurt.

2722
04:14:45,520 --> 04:14:47,920
Supervisor smart Simon

2723
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:00,700
This time is up.

2724
04:15:00,700 --> 04:15:05,600
On a perfectly clear time, is that the name change would help the healing. Thank you.

2725
04:15:09,000 --> 04:15:09,860
Next, please.

2726
04:15:10,740 --> 04:15:18,320
I just want to have a point of order question. The board has indicated that there are two other options.

2727
04:15:20,180 --> 04:15:22,380
It seems we have five options currently.

2728
04:15:22,740 --> 04:15:27,460
That's what two others, two plus the three, that comes up to five. So that's what I'm saying.

2729
04:15:27,460 --> 04:15:29,520
Yeah, and the public hasn't seen it.

2730
04:15:29,520 --> 04:15:30,780
County Council as you've seen it.

2731
04:15:31,280 --> 04:15:33,360
So how are you going to have public input,

2732
04:15:33,900 --> 04:15:36,500
adequate public input, on something that none of us

2733
04:15:36,500 --> 04:15:37,200
have actually seen?

2734
04:15:37,240 --> 04:15:39,860
None of you've seen it, you spoke about it for a minute.

2735
04:15:40,120 --> 04:15:43,020
And I'm just asking, are you going to still consider those?

2736
04:15:43,020 --> 04:15:45,460
Because if you are, those need to be made available

2737
04:15:45,460 --> 04:15:48,760
to the public and another meeting be held.

2738
04:15:49,100 --> 04:15:51,520
Because you can't have it today.

2739
04:15:51,580 --> 04:15:54,200
You can't vote on any of those if there are substantial changes

2740
04:15:54,200 --> 04:15:54,980
to any of them.

2741
04:15:54,980 --> 04:15:56,360
And that's a law.

2742
04:15:56,360 --> 04:15:58,760
So, thank you for your comment.

2743
04:15:59,760 --> 04:16:04,440
I do agree that we did put it on the television screen.

2744
04:16:04,440 --> 04:16:07,060
I think it was very short lived on the television screen.

2745
04:16:07,440 --> 04:16:13,440
And I'm hopeful that we are about to go print out some copies of both of those options.

2746
04:16:16,250 --> 04:16:17,770
We have printed copies.

2747
04:16:18,050 --> 04:16:18,670
They are in the front.

2748
04:16:18,870 --> 04:16:22,290
I was not aware of that, or I missed that if that was stated.

2749
04:16:23,070 --> 04:16:26,250
So please grab a copy so that you can review that.

2750
04:16:26,250 --> 04:16:29,370
And at this moment in time, those options are here.

2751
04:16:29,890 --> 04:16:32,850
And if there are issues, we'll make sure to check in with County

2752
04:16:32,850 --> 04:16:35,570
Council before making any decision at the end of the meeting.

2753
04:16:37,210 --> 04:16:42,730
And at this moment in time, we've heard your comments.

2754
04:16:43,070 --> 04:16:43,730
We have it printed.

2755
04:16:47,350 --> 04:16:48,970
Is this the letter that's available?

2756
04:16:49,590 --> 04:16:53,770
Because are we allowed to take time and not be disrupted by

2757
04:16:53,770 --> 04:16:56,370
conversation that's going on in order to give this.

2758
04:16:57,350 --> 04:17:06,490
So I think we're going to be having a lot of public comment and there's going to be time for people to review it during that during that time before we vote.

2759
04:17:07,010 --> 04:17:15,490
So please, if the public wants to grab a piece of paper so they can review the options and I'll be honest, I do not know.

2760
04:17:24,030 --> 04:17:26,510
I need to take a two minute break.

2761
04:17:29,090 --> 04:17:32,370
Two minute break, we'll be back at 2.15.

2762
04:22:34,510 --> 04:22:47,850
All right, let's reconvene everybody should have all the options, the options that have been provided are not revolutionary in the changes of what's the potential.

2763
04:22:48,590 --> 04:22:59,910
The Board of Supervisors can always amend contracts or other things on the fly. I want to make sure you have that in your hands, you have that in your hands and it should not.

2764
04:23:01,110 --> 04:23:15,170
There's nothing that's outside of the scope of possibilities at this moment in time in the sense that they're grounded in what the options are already where they're not all that different than what was already one through three.

2765
04:23:15,730 --> 04:23:18,430
So you have that in your hands. I do want to continue with public comment.

2766
04:23:20,170 --> 04:23:25,010
And I think that we're good to go and thank you Wendy for grabbing more for that.

2767
04:23:25,010 --> 04:23:32,570
If you were next to public comment, I apologize for interrupting, please come and introduce yourself and you get three minutes.

2768
04:23:34,940 --> 04:23:39,360
I'm Jerry Brown. I just think you'd be more nervous standing here. I'm not a public speaker.

2769
04:23:40,560 --> 04:23:49,480
I have the picture of my grandma and my grandma at home in the native dress, so I have no prejudice one way or the other.

2770
04:23:49,480 --> 04:23:57,280
Okay, I'm an American citizen and we are blessed to be in the United States to have a

2771
04:23:57,280 --> 04:24:06,500
voting process and the people have spoken and it hurts me to see that five people, I don't

2772
04:24:06,500 --> 04:24:13,020
know which individuals are, would try to subverse or if they have to write word or not, the

2773
04:24:13,020 --> 04:24:18,840
vote with the people when they've spoken and then you try to find a way around it to match what

2774
04:24:18,840 --> 04:24:23,520
you feel, and I represented, I was this county, I mean,

2775
04:24:23,520 --> 04:24:28,400
I mean, Kelseyville school district, so I represented the classified staff many times in

2776
04:24:28,400 --> 04:24:34,180
negotiations, and regardless of my personal opinion when I went into negotiations with

2777
04:24:34,180 --> 04:24:41,560
the school district, what my people wanted, I represented, and I spoke for them even though

2778
04:24:41,560 --> 04:24:45,860
for a couple of issues once in a while, I felt differently, but nobody ever knew that,

2779
04:24:45,860 --> 04:24:53,200
because I represented the classified staff I was negotiating for with the board.

2780
04:24:54,260 --> 04:24:57,200
And so I just say please we have a Constitution.

2781
04:24:58,200 --> 04:24:59,340
We've had a vote.

2782
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:08,520
Please listen to the vote of the people. That's what you represent us. You're to find out what we want

2783
04:25:08,520 --> 04:25:16,100
and regardless of your personal opinion, which I respect, which you must vote how we asked you to vote.

2784
04:25:18,300 --> 04:25:23,280
And that's my pitch. Okay, Anna, Judy Claiman was one of my very best friends. Apparently,

2785
04:25:23,280 --> 04:25:28,380
County before she died, she would be horrified that this whole thing is going on. I knew

2786
04:25:28,380 --> 04:25:35,240
her heart and we talked about the issues, many, many times. She was proud that we used to have

2787
04:25:35,240 --> 04:25:41,560
Kelseaville Indies in Pome, the little papooses at the primary school, as Armascots, because

2788
04:25:41,560 --> 04:25:47,660
it was of course a pride for her. And I just feel like this is even dishonoring in term memory.

2789
04:25:48,780 --> 04:25:53,540
So please vote how your people voted in the election.

2790
04:25:53,760 --> 04:25:54,820
Thank you.

2791
04:25:55,000 --> 04:25:56,040
Thank you.

2792
04:25:56,500 --> 04:25:57,300
Next, please.

2793
04:26:00,870 --> 04:26:01,790
Hi, I'm Barbara Green.

2794
04:26:02,290 --> 04:26:06,390
I just wanted to point out the comments about you thinking the BGN has already

2795
04:26:06,390 --> 04:26:07,250
made up their mind.

2796
04:26:07,850 --> 04:26:11,870
I have been in back and forth contact with them for over a year now.

2797
04:26:12,370 --> 04:26:13,690
And they've been nothing but professional.

2798
04:26:14,050 --> 04:26:16,130
I do not get that impression from them at all.

2799
04:26:16,130 --> 04:26:21,290
and I really do feel like the recommendation you provide to them will be considered greatly.

2800
04:26:22,630 --> 04:26:28,030
So therefore I'm asking that you go with a vote and recommend accordingly to what the people

2801
04:26:28,030 --> 04:26:31,850
in the county are, which is our. Thank you. Thank you for your comment.

2802
04:26:34,090 --> 04:26:41,810
My name is Furch Blanger, and I want to, you know, mention that, you know, task with informing

2803
04:26:41,810 --> 04:26:51,050
of people, you know, with information that when it came out onto the voters, it wasn't

2804
04:26:51,050 --> 04:26:51,630
correct.

2805
04:26:52,090 --> 04:27:00,650
First of all, it was known about the history with Andrew Kelsey, specifically it was put

2806
04:27:00,650 --> 04:27:04,450
on plaques, it was put in a lot of books.

2807
04:27:05,070 --> 04:27:12,210
There was also, you know, known about that there wouldn't be any costs,

2808
04:27:14,230 --> 04:27:19,310
you know, to people that if the changes come from the top down from Washington down.

2809
04:27:21,050 --> 04:27:21,650
Also,

2810
04:27:23,990 --> 04:27:28,850
you know, with, you're tasked with protecting everybody in this county, everybody.

2811
04:27:28,850 --> 04:27:34,770
not just, you know, a large pile of the county or a large, but everyone.

2812
04:27:36,770 --> 04:27:48,390
And also, it seems that a lot is on the whole vote was based on fear.

2813
04:27:50,590 --> 04:27:56,810
There were things that were put into, you know, in front of the voters that weren't true,

2814
04:27:56,810 --> 04:28:04,730
such as just mentioned about all the expenses, such as the history, and, you know, we had

2815
04:28:04,730 --> 04:28:09,710
input coming and opened out to the community from the very first meeting we had members

2816
04:28:09,710 --> 04:28:15,350
of the Kelseyville Business Association that showed up, they knew it was what was happening,

2817
04:28:16,190 --> 04:28:19,330
yeah, they completely took it like they were blindsided.

2818
04:28:21,110 --> 04:28:26,730
I agree with Bruno that this should probably go up to the people to vote for a different

2819
04:28:26,730 --> 04:28:36,050
name, because Knotty being forced, you know, when I had said, it was open to discussion for

2820
04:28:36,050 --> 04:28:41,510
over four years, as I mentioned, there were members from the business, Kelseyville Business

2821
04:28:41,510 --> 04:28:43,950
Association at the very first meeting.

2822
04:28:46,490 --> 04:28:50,010
So, a lot of this whole thing was based on fear.

2823
04:28:50,130 --> 04:28:55,670
There was also loads of money that were pushing all of this. And the citizens for healing

2824
04:28:55,670 --> 04:29:02,390
group, just watched. There was a comment made about, let's see what the, you know, figures

2825
04:29:02,390 --> 04:29:08,790
come to see what the racism quotient, how much racism there is in this county. Now,

2826
04:29:08,790 --> 04:29:15,290
this is interesting because we're having people that are involved with the community, that are

2827
04:29:15,290 --> 04:29:24,350
okaying what was put for people to vote on. You understand what I'm saying here? That, you know,

2828
04:29:24,350 --> 04:29:27,590
of the things that were known to be untrue,

2829
04:29:28,110 --> 04:29:30,330
were put onto the ballot, when questioned,

2830
04:29:30,450 --> 04:29:31,310
oh, that's opinion.

2831
04:29:31,850 --> 04:29:34,670
When does opinions go for people's votes?

2832
04:29:35,670 --> 04:29:38,330
I mean, this is something you're certainly looking for opinion.

2833
04:29:38,430 --> 04:29:39,610
And your time is up.

2834
04:29:39,730 --> 04:29:40,190
Thank you.

2835
04:29:40,310 --> 04:29:40,970
Thank you.

2836
04:29:45,240 --> 04:29:46,520
Oh, good afternoon.

2837
04:29:46,840 --> 04:29:48,300
My name is Nia on Naepom.

2838
04:29:48,820 --> 04:29:50,680
It's a silent K to begin with,

2839
04:29:50,800 --> 04:29:52,080
but yes, that is my real name.

2840
04:29:52,280 --> 04:29:54,660
I changed it in 1993 on purpose.

2841
04:29:57,480 --> 04:29:59,980
I'm so just, you know, that it was probably...

2842
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:07,080
One of the most liberating and refreshing things that I've done in my life, and I was really glad to have done it.

2843
04:30:07,480 --> 04:30:14,040
I just am a little nervous. I can't believe you guys. I can't believe you guys sit in here every day with us. It's so bright in here.

2844
04:30:15,060 --> 04:30:21,020
It's stuffy. There's no fresh air. You know, maybe open a little curtain and see some, it's a beautiful December day.

2845
04:30:21,320 --> 04:30:27,180
Some nature in here, some ambiance. You throw pillows. Maybe that's just me though, because I'm kind of sensitive.

2846
04:30:27,180 --> 04:30:31,900
And it has come to my attention that there are a lot of sensitive, quite a few sensitive

2847
04:30:31,900 --> 04:30:34,380
people in Lake County on either side of this issue.

2848
04:30:35,020 --> 04:30:45,960
Once, hand, we have the valued, they were the name of Kelseyville, which has come down

2849
04:30:45,960 --> 04:30:46,980
the pike for a while.

2850
04:30:46,980 --> 04:30:55,920
And, you know, it's quaint and cute and they're emotionally sentimentsally attached, my opinion.

2851
04:30:58,060 --> 04:31:11,140
So, there's that, and the inconvenience of them having to spend money, which if I thought about it in the length of time, I would think would be reprehensible in the least of their concerns, because of the inconvenience.

2852
04:31:13,380 --> 04:31:19,840
I'm sensitive because I, with my light skin and my blue eyes, am a card carrying, federally

2853
04:31:19,840 --> 04:31:23,340
recognized in rolled memory of a federally recognized tribe,

2854
04:31:25,940 --> 04:31:27,160
Oklahoma Cherokees, and that's

2855
04:31:27,160 --> 04:31:32,940
my mom's family, and I am sensitive to these kind of issues because it offends me.

2856
04:31:33,120 --> 04:31:38,240
I'm insinced every day when I have to think of somebody else, going to school and school

2857
04:31:38,240 --> 04:31:44,640
us that's named after a person who raped and killed their grandparents or their descendants

2858
04:31:44,640 --> 04:31:50,760
have to keep going to the same school every day because it happens to be named that or

2859
04:31:50,760 --> 04:31:51,860
the same town.

2860
04:31:52,640 --> 04:31:56,900
My point being, the other sensitive people can't even believe it.

2861
04:31:56,980 --> 04:31:59,080
I can't believe this is the case.

2862
04:32:00,220 --> 04:32:01,580
It's not a progression.

2863
04:32:02,060 --> 04:32:04,620
That was really not a very fair vote.

2864
04:32:04,700 --> 04:32:07,640
In fact, it was a litmus test in my opinion of a public opinion.

2865
04:32:07,640 --> 04:32:12,920
It's not a voteable issue, that's why they have a board of geographic names to decide these things.

2866
04:32:14,040 --> 04:32:19,940
The other sensitive people are on the other side who don't want to have the name change.

2867
04:32:20,180 --> 04:32:26,320
The other people are the ones who are, yeah, it's probably the height of inconvenience, the pinnacle of inconvenience I would think,

2868
04:32:26,620 --> 04:32:35,200
to be living in the wild west and have your daughter of eight raped, taken away by men, grown men, never to be seen again.

2869
04:32:35,200 --> 04:32:42,280
And if you do your history, you will know that General Valeo and General Harraspy and Mr.

2870
04:32:42,400 --> 04:32:49,740
Kelsey and Stone, you'll running a business up and down that highway right there that

2871
04:32:49,740 --> 04:32:51,040
wasn't a highway then.

2872
04:32:51,160 --> 04:32:53,180
And your time is up if you want to finish your comment.

2873
04:32:53,260 --> 04:32:57,760
Of child trafficking, sex trafficking, end of discussion.

2874
04:32:58,380 --> 04:32:59,300
Thank you.

2875
04:32:59,800 --> 04:33:01,000
Thank you for your hand.

2876
04:33:01,120 --> 04:33:02,100
Thank you for your comment.

2877
04:33:02,300 --> 04:33:04,160
Please, please take a seat.

2878
04:33:05,200 --> 04:33:06,560
Please take a seat.

2879
04:33:11,200 --> 04:33:12,800
Ron Montez again.

2880
04:33:13,820 --> 04:33:20,620
I wanted to bring up an issue that is on my heart.

2881
04:33:21,220 --> 04:33:29,680
A few weeks back I went to the high school to speak to a high school class on their day of celebrating indigenous people.

2882
04:33:30,580 --> 04:33:36,900
And some of my relatives danced and we had some Indian tacos, some traditional foods.

2883
04:33:36,900 --> 04:33:44,800
And I got to speak to a class, but before I did that, I spoke to the instructor of that class.

2884
04:33:45,700 --> 04:33:57,840
And he was very unaware of all of the history that is in Lake County concerning the treatment of the native people who have been here for thousands of years.

2885
04:33:57,840 --> 04:34:02,540
And it's not taught in our books, our history books.

2886
04:34:03,980 --> 04:34:13,820
It is not taught in any of the higher education books unless you go specific and look for something specific.

2887
04:34:14,640 --> 04:34:20,420
But they'll tell you a lot about the planes Indians and the different tribes all over the country.

2888
04:34:20,420 --> 04:34:29,560
But we're talking specifics in this case, because it's my relatives who are we're talking about.

2889
04:34:30,060 --> 04:34:32,980
Grandfathers, grandmothers, great-grandfathers, grandmothers.

2890
04:34:34,080 --> 04:34:43,480
And they might not have that same blood in me, but you can find down the line that I'm related to those that do carry that blood.

2891
04:34:43,480 --> 04:34:59,980
And there was a fear upon our people that has caused such a problem in our psyche and who we are as a people, as a person, that our...

2892
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:10,360
Elders refused to teach us our culture, for fear that we would be treated the same way they were. They were in the boarding schools.

2893
04:35:11,660 --> 04:35:25,460
They were abused physically, sexually, emotionally. They were mistreated. It was against the law of the land for our people to speak our language or pray or sing our songs.

2894
04:35:25,460 --> 04:35:31,100
We could not go to where our food sources were before because there were fences.

2895
04:35:32,160 --> 04:35:41,040
And if we cross that fence together, we would be shot with no way to have it looked at

2896
04:35:41,040 --> 04:35:48,360
by any law, because the laws that were there on the books were not for Indian people.

2897
04:35:48,680 --> 04:35:51,260
They were for the colonial people.

2898
04:35:51,960 --> 04:35:59,720
And so, we had no voice, no way to get justice.

2899
04:36:00,920 --> 04:36:07,400
We had to just take it and sit back and put up with it time and time again.

2900
04:36:08,340 --> 04:36:14,320
And then when Mr. Kelsey came with Mr. Stone and they took all of the men from our village

2901
04:36:14,320 --> 04:36:15,080
site.

2902
04:36:15,080 --> 04:36:16,020
And your time is over.

2903
04:36:16,100 --> 04:36:16,700
You can finish.

2904
04:36:17,140 --> 04:36:17,300
Thank you.

2905
04:36:17,300 --> 04:36:28,320
We had no recourse without being shot killed or our wives or our children taken and sexually abused and murdered.

2906
04:36:29,640 --> 04:36:32,020
And that is what Kelsey means.

2907
04:36:32,280 --> 04:36:33,400
Thank you for your comment.

2908
04:36:33,860 --> 04:36:34,680
Thank you.

2909
04:36:38,970 --> 04:36:43,870
And after the next speaker I'm going to switch over to Zoom.

2910
04:36:52,000 --> 04:36:53,520
Thank you.

2911
04:36:53,520 --> 04:36:57,220
I know there's been some bad actors out there on both sides.

2912
04:36:58,020 --> 04:37:03,820
You know, we really tried to stay as professional as we could on our end,

2913
04:37:04,400 --> 04:37:11,520
even sometimes over doing it to try and be transparent.

2914
04:37:15,220 --> 04:37:20,640
You know, it was mentioned that C4H was the one that fired the first shot in this,

2915
04:37:20,640 --> 04:37:36,460
What was referred to as a battle or a war, and the war is being left to the tribes to finish it, and it just troubles me inside that I would be, you know, considered it war with you folks.

2916
04:37:37,100 --> 04:37:40,640
I mean, you guys are doing a great job as their tough things.

2917
04:37:41,320 --> 04:37:46,060
smoke and I go way back and before the smoke settled in the Valley Fire, we had the first

2918
04:37:46,060 --> 04:37:52,700
house up. You know, we go back a long ways and I don't want to be at war with the tribes

2919
04:37:52,700 --> 04:37:55,580
or with the Board of Supervisors, nor does my community.

2920
04:37:58,620 --> 04:38:02,400
So we're here to talk,

2921
04:38:10,340 --> 04:38:10,620
you know,

2922
04:38:10,620 --> 04:38:17,560
owners with organizations, Lions Club, Hammers for Hope, Business Association,

2923
04:38:20,240 --> 04:38:21,380
Business Owners.

2924
04:38:22,470 --> 04:38:23,540
This didn't happen.

2925
04:38:23,900 --> 04:38:24,680
There was no discussion.

2926
04:38:24,900 --> 04:38:34,080
You know, the consequence of the consequential damages of this C4H refers to as no big deal.

2927
04:38:34,660 --> 04:38:35,180
How do they know?

2928
04:38:35,220 --> 04:38:36,380
It has been done.

2929
04:38:36,920 --> 04:38:43,940
You know, a name change of this magnitude is rare, super rare.

2930
04:38:44,580 --> 04:38:50,160
So how do they even know what else to be, how do they know what I have to do to change the name on my building?

2931
04:38:50,560 --> 04:38:52,740
But, you know, I don't want to get into that.

2932
04:38:54,340 --> 04:38:59,540
Just that there was no discussion of what the name cannot I would be.

2933
04:38:59,640 --> 04:39:02,800
There was no discussion of the impacts to businesses.

2934
04:39:02,800 --> 04:39:05,540
is there's no discussion of the harm

2935
04:39:05,540 --> 04:39:08,460
that's being done to this town, to our community.

2936
04:39:09,200 --> 04:39:10,820
We haven't talked about that either.

2937
04:39:13,580 --> 04:39:20,600
At the end of the day, option four is the best for us.

2938
04:39:20,900 --> 04:39:23,880
And if the conversation wants to continue,

2939
04:39:25,880 --> 04:39:27,240
we're there, I'm not going anywhere,

2940
04:39:27,460 --> 04:39:31,060
I'll have a seat with anybody and I'll offer a seat.

2941
04:39:31,060 --> 04:39:41,140
You know, anywhere in Kelseaville any time for any of you, if option 4 can't be done then I hope option 5 is what maybe is considered today.

2942
04:39:44,310 --> 04:39:49,130
That's it, I don't want to drag on on other things that people have already mentioned, but thank you very much.

2943
04:39:49,290 --> 04:39:50,310
If we could please get your day.

2944
04:39:50,810 --> 04:39:52,470
Mark Burgessani, Kelseaville resident.

2945
04:39:52,930 --> 04:39:53,990
Thank you very much.

2946
04:39:55,310 --> 04:39:57,190
We're going to go to the Zoom Room.

2947
04:39:57,890 --> 04:39:59,970
First hand up is Jim Kamiski.

2948
04:40:10,390 --> 04:40:19,890
May be put his hand down. Put your hand back up if you wish to speak. There it is. If we can still start with Jim.

2949
04:40:24,090 --> 04:40:26,030
Can you hear me now? We can.

2950
04:40:28,030 --> 04:40:39,550
Board Chair and the rest of the Board's supervisors, thank you for this opportunity. I wanted to show my respect to the body and our county citizens, but I'm self-quarantine home sick for the last couple days.

2951
04:40:39,550 --> 04:40:51,670
I just want to emphasize as a resident of Kelseyville, I absolutely see the sensitivity on everything that we've been talking about here today.

2952
04:40:52,030 --> 04:40:59,030
I do. I went through grammar school, high school, working Kelseyville moved away, moved back.

2953
04:40:59,030 --> 04:41:07,070
And I heard what's Montessa too, that learning process that we need to get back to,

2954
04:41:07,770 --> 04:41:14,710
this changed the name wholeheartedly without any input right now from any of the other

2955
04:41:14,710 --> 04:41:21,870
affected people is wrong. It was a one-sided shot in the bow and it should not have happened.

2956
04:41:22,270 --> 04:41:26,590
The Board of Supervisors, you went ahead and put it on the ballot to get it informative,

2957
04:41:26,590 --> 04:41:30,850
whether that's completely represented of the whole county or not.

2958
04:41:31,370 --> 04:41:34,270
I don't know. I don't know what the exact playing was.

2959
04:41:34,510 --> 04:41:36,350
But I think there's other options.

2960
04:41:36,590 --> 04:41:40,230
Let's take a look at those and let's sit down and have a discussion.

2961
04:41:40,970 --> 04:41:42,870
But as far as the Board of Supervisors,

2962
04:41:43,130 --> 04:41:49,450
I would ask the five of you to consider your representing the votes that come in.

2963
04:41:49,530 --> 04:41:53,890
Just as I, on my elected board, don't agree with some stuff that comes in

2964
04:41:53,890 --> 04:42:02,630
when are citizens say they want this, it's not my opinion. It's I represent them. So I appreciate the

2965
04:42:02,630 --> 04:42:07,570
opportunity to speak to you, but I think that we need to be steadfast, represent the vote of the

2966
04:42:07,570 --> 04:42:15,630
people, and then let the BGN do what they're gonna do with appropriate input from your all

2967
04:42:15,630 --> 04:42:22,930
yourselves, the voters, and both sides of this. I want to see this fix. I love my town so very much

2968
04:42:22,930 --> 04:42:37,890
And we need to work collaboratively with the tribes and the other folks that I never considered that a big deal when I was younger I guess it is now. So I want to work better together and I'll do whatever takes. Thank you.

2969
04:42:37,890 --> 04:42:39,170
Thank you for your comment.

2970
04:42:40,530 --> 04:42:42,490
Next is Dwayne Goforth.

2971
04:42:54,050 --> 04:42:57,950
My name is Dwayne Goforth and I'm here to support the name change.

2972
04:42:57,950 --> 04:43:06,670
I think the first thing I'd like to point out is that the BGN acts under laws enacted by legislators that we elected.

2973
04:43:07,670 --> 04:43:18,990
This law came out in the 1970s and that was part of democracy and they act under the rules and the laws of the Department of Interior, so that's democracy right there.

2974
04:43:18,990 --> 04:43:32,190
The vote was 70% against and 30% for, but that's not all the people, the 17,000 people that voted for us does not even near half of Lake County will.

2975
04:43:32,550 --> 04:43:36,730
Young people didn't get the vote and they're going to have to live with the name for a long time.

2976
04:43:37,370 --> 04:43:46,350
The biggest criteria that BGN uses is whether or not a name is offensive to a significant portion of the population.

2977
04:43:46,350 --> 04:43:49,850
And even 30% voted for that.

2978
04:43:50,010 --> 04:43:51,250
So I think if you look around,

2979
04:43:51,290 --> 04:43:54,690
you'll find that there is a significant number of people

2980
04:43:54,690 --> 04:43:58,510
in Lake County who feel the name Kelseyville is offensive.

2981
04:43:59,270 --> 04:44:02,690
And one of them, and all of the native people, for sure,

2982
04:44:02,970 --> 04:44:05,650
it's in a blood in their history and their families.

2983
04:44:07,150 --> 04:44:11,050
We need to acknowledge that and act to protect the minority

2984
04:44:11,050 --> 04:44:13,430
and their rights and to go to the future.

2985
04:44:14,190 --> 04:44:21,470
a name is really important. It's our identity. It's our heritage and it's how we see our future.

2986
04:44:22,650 --> 04:44:29,570
We keep it represents a past and pretty much none of us are proud of. I want to be proud

2987
04:44:29,570 --> 04:44:35,710
of the name of my town. I love my town. I love the people that's in it, but I want to be proud

2988
04:44:35,710 --> 04:44:42,390
of the name and you know change happens and when it's for something for good we should embrace

2989
04:44:42,390 --> 04:44:49,870
it. It's it's not always easy there's a tradition and that can be hard but but look around

2990
04:44:50,430 --> 04:44:55,930
Mount Dene, McKinley was changed to Mount Denali. I don't see anybody's worried about that anymore.

2991
04:44:55,930 --> 04:44:59,970
or custer battlefield was renamed Little Big Horde.

2992
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:08,600
In the interim battle field, to give some credit to the means that were there. Patrick's point in the humble

2993
04:45:08,600 --> 04:45:15,480
county was sitting named Sue Magg. There was no controversy about that. Squaw Valley, the scary in the

2994
04:45:15,480 --> 04:45:22,380
Syria was re-named a palisade. I don't hear a lot of people worried about that problem. Even in

2995
04:45:22,380 --> 04:45:29,820
late county, just last year, Walker Ridge was renamed Condor Ridge. The people in Spring Valley didn't

2996
04:45:29,820 --> 04:45:34,380
upset that they're at their local Denmark change. The name can

2997
04:45:34,380 --> 04:45:38,720
not dice a really beautiful name. It has a real meaning. It's been

2998
04:45:38,720 --> 04:45:45,380
used for thousands of years. And just just think what what the

2999
04:45:45,380 --> 04:45:49,720
future will be like in 10 or 20 years if the name gets changed. We'll

3000
04:45:49,720 --> 04:45:53,160
get used to it. We'll be happy. We'll be proud to call our

3001
04:45:53,160 --> 04:46:02,000
town's name named after the gigantic and more time is up. Okay, thank you, but thank you.

3002
04:46:02,100 --> 04:46:05,680
Thank you. The issue is not going away, but let's get changed. Thank you.

3003
04:46:05,720 --> 04:46:08,580
Thank you. Next is Nora.

3004
04:46:17,270 --> 04:46:23,290
We will do Peme's first. We accidentally clicked on it on your name.

3005
04:46:27,970 --> 04:46:34,930
Are you speaking to Pamela Ezra? That would be you, yes. Yes. Hi. Um,

3006
04:46:34,930 --> 04:46:56,450
I guess I'm speaking with the 70%, I'm a newcomer here, 10 years, and every single day I'm in a business that welcomes more newcomers coming in from L.A., San Francisco, San Jose, Silicon Valley.

3007
04:46:56,450 --> 04:47:20,070
We're the future. We'll love Kelseyville. We had no idea, at least I didn't, and neither did my husband, that there were problems here about the name or the history had no idea there were arguments or any hatred because that's not what I've experienced in the last 10 years.

3008
04:47:20,070 --> 04:47:31,670
Um, I go to the casinos, the restaurants, I see people, I go out there, we love the name

3009
04:47:31,670 --> 04:47:32,410
Kelseyville.

3010
04:47:32,530 --> 04:47:40,810
If you run it, it is the only town in the United States, Dan Kelseyville, had no idea about

3011
04:47:40,810 --> 04:47:47,970
these men who were awful, but I did hear that they got their come up and it's, but I don't

3012
04:47:47,970 --> 04:47:56,750
there's a step in California that hasn't had blood shed and tears cried into the ground.

3013
04:47:57,430 --> 04:48:08,210
Imagine renaming from San Diego to LA, San Francisco and Auburn, every single rock tree and

3014
04:48:08,210 --> 04:48:15,570
place name. I think Kelseyville is wonderful as it is. It's a wonderful future for all of us here.

3015
04:48:16,410 --> 04:48:20,590
Nobody that I know is interested in changing the name.

3016
04:48:21,010 --> 04:48:25,150
I hope that the rest of you, with all of your history,

3017
04:48:26,250 --> 04:48:31,670
could just put aside that hatred and look around you.

3018
04:48:31,870 --> 04:48:36,250
And this is new beginnings for us newcomers here.

3019
04:48:36,430 --> 04:48:41,510
I want to thank you for your time and how hard you're all working on this.

3020
04:48:41,770 --> 04:48:42,810
Thank you.

3021
04:48:42,810 --> 04:48:44,670
Thank you for your comment.

3022
04:48:45,590 --> 04:48:47,590
Let's go back and try Nora again.

3023
04:48:58,070 --> 04:48:58,890
Hello, can you hear me?

3024
04:48:59,030 --> 04:49:00,290
We can hear you.

3025
04:49:00,630 --> 04:49:01,630
Hello, my name's Nora Moore.

3026
04:49:01,770 --> 04:49:05,810
I'm a 10 year late county resident raising my children here as a black woman.

3027
04:49:06,670 --> 04:49:08,950
I would like to thank the board for their work.

3028
04:49:09,210 --> 04:49:10,630
I sat here since nine o'clock.

3029
04:49:10,730 --> 04:49:12,050
You guys go through a lot of issues.

3030
04:49:12,410 --> 04:49:15,370
A lot that touched me personally and working in housing in this county.

3031
04:49:15,550 --> 04:49:17,710
So I'm glad to see that there's movement in that.

3032
04:49:17,710 --> 04:49:21,570
I'm sorry not to hear from the tribal descendant members about this issue.

3033
04:49:21,570 --> 04:49:33,490
But I'm sure they have the reasons I'd like to give an alternative option that we tell the BGN that we plan to change the name in the next five years and that we as a community come together to find a name that works for everybody.

3034
04:49:34,390 --> 04:49:38,730
But I'm sure that's not something we can actually do but I think that would actually help.

3035
04:49:38,910 --> 04:49:42,310
I'm glad to see that the temperature and the room has changed from the last meeting.

3036
04:49:42,910 --> 04:49:51,350
There were some racist comments that were made and I'm seeing that a lot of people who before said that they didn't know this was a problem are saying that they now hear people.

3037
04:49:51,350 --> 04:49:56,470
and are willing to work with that, that is amazing, and I'm so proud of that, and you

3038
04:49:56,470 --> 04:49:59,970
turn to stay neutral, I'd like to quote Desmond too too, if you're neutral in...

3039
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:29,880
The situation of injustice, you've chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of the mouse, and you say that your neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. The pearl clutching over the process of this being done without meetings or whatever is BS, because this has been spoken about for a decade. It should have been changed back in the civil rights era when this law was put in place. And to ease the conscience of the board, I'd like to quote our third president of the United States in the essence of democracy.

3040
04:50:30,000 --> 04:50:34,920
in majority rule, more than half the vote of the person participating in election.

3041
04:50:35,020 --> 04:50:39,540
However, the constitutional democracy and our time requires a majority rule with minority

3042
04:50:39,540 --> 04:50:40,060
rights.

3043
04:50:40,240 --> 04:50:45,800
And then those rights, we're talking about the constitutional right to pursue life, liberty,

3044
04:50:46,080 --> 04:50:47,340
and justice.

3045
04:50:47,740 --> 04:50:52,580
And I believe the pursuit of happiness here is being stifled for our local tribes.

3046
04:50:53,540 --> 04:50:57,180
Jefferson goes on to say that all will bear in mind the sacred principle that though

3047
04:50:57,180 --> 04:51:02,480
will of the majority is in all cases to prevail. That will will be right full must be reasonable

3048
04:51:02,480 --> 04:51:07,920
and that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect and to violate

3049
04:51:07,920 --> 04:51:14,460
would be a pressian. James Ballford goes on to say the tyranny of majorities may be as bad as the

3050
04:51:14,460 --> 04:51:19,920
tyranny of kings. So if you need any reason to not go with the majority vote of which I think was

3051
04:51:19,920 --> 04:51:24,940
a fraudulent vote as it was presented to the people and given such a short time in which we couldn't

3052
04:51:24,940 --> 04:51:31,520
educate the people. Here it is. You're protecting the rights of the minority in this county who have

3053
04:51:31,520 --> 04:51:37,300
been infringed upon by having someone who has raped and pillaged and basically committed the

3054
04:51:37,300 --> 04:51:43,360
Holocaust on this side of the United States during the Gold Rush. On our local tribal people,

3055
04:51:43,440 --> 04:51:48,640
let me remind you that five tribes have written to the BGN, seven tribes have verbally approved of

3056
04:51:48,640 --> 04:51:56,100
change, and the NCA-A-A-A days before the election actually approved support of all our tribes

3057
04:51:56,100 --> 04:51:57,040
in this NAIC change.

3058
04:51:57,080 --> 04:52:01,160
That's hundreds of tribes across this nation that support our tribes.

3059
04:52:01,600 --> 04:52:05,040
So if there's any reason to go against them, it's your time is up if you can finish your

3060
04:52:05,040 --> 04:52:05,260
comment.

3061
04:52:06,060 --> 04:52:07,220
Thank you very much.

3062
04:52:07,560 --> 04:52:08,680
Thank you for your comment.

3063
04:52:10,160 --> 04:52:11,800
So I have no further hands up.

3064
04:52:11,860 --> 04:52:15,040
I do have some of the hands of those who have already spoken.

3065
04:52:15,040 --> 04:52:17,080
I just don't think they put their hands down.

3066
04:52:17,540 --> 04:52:22,020
If you could please clear that up that'd be easier for me, but I want to make sure to come back to the room.

3067
04:52:22,180 --> 04:52:25,080
Is there any more public comment? Please come on up to the microphone.

3068
04:52:34,240 --> 04:52:36,200
Hello, my name is Eileen Anderson.

3069
04:52:36,440 --> 04:52:40,640
I live in Middletown. I've been a resident of Middletown for a little over 28 years.

3070
04:52:41,580 --> 04:52:48,680
I want to start by saying, I resent the implication that I'm a racist because I disagree with changing the name of Kelseyville.

3071
04:52:48,680 --> 04:52:55,730
I am not a racist. My last name growing up was Garcia. I worked the vineyards. I picked the prunes.

3072
04:52:56,760 --> 04:53:04,360
I've experienced racism. Racism is everywhere. There's all races are racist in one way or another.

3073
04:53:05,600 --> 04:53:13,140
So, you know, there's no perfect race. That's my first point. Second point is, we're a representative of Republic.

3074
04:53:13,140 --> 04:53:22,800
You are representatives of us. We the people. We hired you when we voted for you 70% of the people said

3075
04:53:22,800 --> 04:53:24,800
We like the name Kelseyville

3076
04:53:24,800 --> 04:53:27,400
every race has

3077
04:53:27,400 --> 04:53:32,280
America has started on a on a bad note. Some would say

3078
04:53:32,640 --> 04:53:41,080
We've had slavery the blacks want reparations the Japanese internment campster in World War II

3079
04:53:41,080 --> 04:53:50,120
The Native American population, I respect, but they are not as pure as the wind-driven snow.

3080
04:53:50,820 --> 04:53:54,440
There were tribal wars and stuff like that.

3081
04:53:54,800 --> 04:53:59,400
We have our history is dirty, but we've changed.

3082
04:53:59,780 --> 04:54:02,980
America has turned the corner, we're moving on to new things.

3083
04:54:03,260 --> 04:54:10,820
If you're going to let racism or the hurts that you felt growing up define you as a culture

3084
04:54:10,820 --> 04:54:12,880
And as a people, we're not moving forward.

3085
04:54:13,440 --> 04:54:14,700
We need to move forward.

3086
04:54:15,360 --> 04:54:19,800
Yeah, I don't know that much about Mr. Kelsey and Mr. Stone.

3087
04:54:20,880 --> 04:54:21,720
Did bad things?

3088
04:54:22,140 --> 04:54:24,920
So did the slave owners, so did the slave holders.

3089
04:54:25,000 --> 04:54:26,500
And if we're just going to be holding

3090
04:54:26,500 --> 04:54:28,840
to the atrocities of our past,

3091
04:54:29,260 --> 04:54:31,640
we will never move forward as a nation.

3092
04:54:32,140 --> 04:54:33,120
We need to unite.

3093
04:54:33,800 --> 04:54:35,760
You know, Kelsey was bad.

3094
04:54:35,960 --> 04:54:38,620
The town, most of the people don't even know

3095
04:54:38,620 --> 04:54:40,160
it's went on back there.

3096
04:54:40,160 --> 04:54:48,060
And we respect the hurt of the people, but we're not going to live and dwell in that.

3097
04:54:48,120 --> 04:54:52,320
We're going to move forward, except the hurt move on to the future.

3098
04:54:52,780 --> 04:54:53,620
Thank you.

3099
04:54:57,190 --> 04:54:58,290
Thank you for your comment.

3100
04:54:58,530 --> 04:54:59,050
Next, please.

3101
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:17,660
And if we can keep the comments out of that, I would like that you are respected when you are in the microphone and that in return, there is respect given to others on the microphone as well. Please.

3102
04:55:19,260 --> 04:55:27,840
Good afternoon. My name is Kelvin Reed and I live in 9.5451. And we all know what that is.

3103
04:55:28,820 --> 04:55:30,860
I'm going to give you a little different perspective.

3104
04:55:33,250 --> 04:55:35,530
Doc Ow, Buchanau, Auschwitz.

3105
04:55:36,550 --> 04:55:37,730
They all still exist.

3106
04:55:38,310 --> 04:55:39,270
You know why they exist?

3107
04:55:39,650 --> 04:55:43,230
They exist because the people don't ever want to forget what happened to them.

3108
04:55:43,290 --> 04:55:45,070
Can you speak to the Board of Supervisors, please?

3109
04:55:45,890 --> 04:55:50,610
And so, I want you should honor the vote number one.

3110
04:55:50,710 --> 04:55:52,590
I understand that there's bad feelings.

3111
04:55:52,690 --> 04:55:53,770
There's lots of bad feelings.

3112
04:55:54,190 --> 04:55:55,530
You know, we can go on and on.

3113
04:55:55,750 --> 04:55:58,230
You know, Jefferson was a slave owner, Washington was a slave owner.

3114
04:55:58,230 --> 04:56:02,430
we can go on and on and on. What are we going to do? Change every name? It's not about that.

3115
04:56:02,490 --> 04:56:07,940
No, it's not. It's your history. You can't bury your history, less you're doomed to repeat it.

3116
04:56:08,970 --> 04:56:14,790
Okay? And that's why the Germans keep all of those concentration camps there for visitors to see.

3117
04:56:15,050 --> 04:56:19,890
So people never forget what happened. There's a purpose for it. And I will be visiting one of those

3118
04:56:19,890 --> 04:56:27,290
concentration camps in four months. Why? Because I don't want to ever forget. My grandfather was forced

3119
04:56:27,290 --> 04:56:31,890
to drive a German general around because he was a race car driver during World War II.

3120
04:56:32,710 --> 04:56:37,110
Force II, it was either that or he was in the concentration camp just like everybody else.

3121
04:56:37,850 --> 04:56:43,310
So I have history, I know what I'm talking about here. Don't bury the past.

3122
04:56:43,910 --> 04:56:48,490
Don't, we shouldn't be doing that. We need to remember it so that we learn from it.

3123
04:56:48,550 --> 04:56:53,730
Like a point that somebody brought one of you brought up earlier, you know, you couldn't even find

3124
04:56:53,730 --> 04:56:59,910
where it was anymore, when you weren't trying to find it in the history, it was gone, it evaporated.

3125
04:57:00,210 --> 04:57:02,690
Out of sight, out of mind, we can't do that.

3126
04:57:04,030 --> 04:57:05,130
That's all I have to say.

3127
04:57:05,690 --> 04:57:06,590
Thank you for your comment.

3128
04:57:11,720 --> 04:57:15,720
Kyle Bill, I do agree that there wasn't in Justice Dunn.

3129
04:57:15,940 --> 04:57:19,040
The place of Hubenipo should never have been renamed to Kelseyville.

3130
04:57:19,900 --> 04:57:24,520
Today, all of you are presented with a decision of profound moral significance.

3131
04:57:24,520 --> 04:57:29,200
As an indigenous person and a voice for those that cannot speak here today because of genocide,

3132
04:57:29,300 --> 04:57:34,040
I come before you to speak on the matter that transcends the mere renaming of a town.

3133
04:57:34,520 --> 04:57:40,940
It's about writing a wrong of our collective history and taking a step towards healing and deep wounds afflicted on our people.

3134
04:57:41,620 --> 04:57:50,180
The name Kelseyville is a constant reminder of a violent legacy of Andrew Kelsey and Charleston, whose actions toward our ancestors are one of cruelty and injustice.

3135
04:57:50,180 --> 04:57:55,440
this name embedded in our community continues to honor a past that is inflicted tremendous

3136
04:57:55,440 --> 04:58:01,080
suffering on Indigenous people. You must ask yourself, is this the legacy I choose to uphold?

3137
04:58:01,600 --> 04:58:06,720
Is this the story I choose to tell the world about who we are as a community? You have the

3138
04:58:06,720 --> 04:58:11,100
responsibility to change the narrative and to demonstrate that we as a collective community stand

3139
04:58:11,100 --> 04:58:16,780
for truth and reconciliation. By changing the name of the name to connect, we honor the original

3140
04:58:16,780 --> 04:58:22,700
stewards of this land. And we acknowledge the true history and that we begin to heal the

3141
04:58:22,700 --> 04:58:27,960
riffs of the past. This is not merely about altering the signs of a town's border. It's

3142
04:58:27,960 --> 04:58:34,360
about affirming our commitment to justice and respect for all cultures and histories. As you

3143
04:58:34,360 --> 04:58:38,820
consider the options before you truly urge you to think about the message that we will send to

3144
04:58:38,820 --> 04:58:45,680
our children and to the world. Let us show that late counting leads with courage and justice. I

3145
04:58:45,680 --> 04:58:51,860
implore you to make a moral choice and stand on the right side of history and to vote for a change that will stand

3146
04:58:52,440 --> 04:58:57,240
that will start mending wounds of the past. Let us move forward together.

3147
04:58:58,460 --> 04:59:09,960
Not just as neighbors, but as united communities dedicated to justice and moral respect. And I just want to say that I appreciate this process because it's show is getting the opportunity.

3148
04:59:10,600 --> 04:59:15,500
the opportunity to see each of your hearts and where you are. Because there's a difference

3149
04:59:15,500 --> 04:59:22,580
between being an ally and being a true ally or just being a performative ally. And so this

3150
04:59:22,580 --> 04:59:29,920
is your moment to understand that the choices you make will go into the history books and that

3151
04:59:29,920 --> 04:59:36,740
we will remember the choices that you made. So today is a beautiful day because we get to see all

3152
04:59:36,740 --> 04:59:42,440
our hearts today, and who we stand by, and who we support. So I just want to say that.

3153
04:59:42,460 --> 04:59:44,160
Thank you. Thank you for your comment.

3154
04:59:49,960 --> 04:59:53,000
Hello, my name is Barbara Holland Camp, and I live in

3155
04:59:53,000 --> 04:59:59,960
Kelseaville. I was here in July and before I say what I want to say, I find it hard to believe.

3156
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:09,040
We cannot use profanity, but yet the Board of Supervisors could, when we met in July, that was uncalled for.

3157
05:00:09,960 --> 05:00:25,620
I'm here because the vote was really 70, almost 71% for, against changing the name. I think you have an obligation legally and morally to go forward with that.

3158
05:00:25,620 --> 05:00:30,540
I vote if you're not going to accept what the vote was.

3159
05:00:30,880 --> 05:00:31,940
Thank you.

3160
05:00:31,940 --> 05:00:33,100
Thank you for your comment.

3161
05:00:36,920 --> 05:00:42,200
After this next individual in the room, I'm going to go to a hand.

3162
05:00:42,360 --> 05:00:43,720
That's been waiting in the zoo.

3163
05:00:45,930 --> 05:00:47,790
Good afternoon, members of the board.

3164
05:00:49,750 --> 05:00:52,730
I haven't met our county council yet, and who would that be?

3165
05:00:54,640 --> 05:00:56,920
Lloyd Gwintavano, but please continue your comment.

3166
05:00:58,580 --> 05:01:07,440
I'm very concerned and also in the future that statements that were made on the ballot

3167
05:01:08,000 --> 05:01:15,820
that were so incorrect they were so underlying and our county council did not see fit

3168
05:01:15,820 --> 05:01:25,900
to correct those injustices I will call them okay I hope this doesn't happen in the future

3169
05:01:28,090 --> 05:01:36,270
Supervisor Simon. You called it. When we had the last meeting here, you said, I think I know how this is going to go.

3170
05:01:37,310 --> 05:01:48,430
And you were right. But I think that some of the statements that were on the ballot may have had a big influence on how this went.

3171
05:01:48,430 --> 05:02:04,610
Okay? Also, what's wrong with Kamakdai? I know that there's been a lot of brand work on the

3172
05:02:04,610 --> 05:02:13,670
name Kelseyville. However, Kamakdai has a built-in reputation from Kamakdai Harbor that

3173
05:02:13,670 --> 05:02:20,030
is not local, it's not state, it's not national, it's even international.

3174
05:02:21,170 --> 05:02:28,130
This is a very good name to change this town too.

3175
05:02:28,470 --> 05:02:35,510
And one other thing, let me ask you something, if you went on a vacation, you came back and

3176
05:02:35,510 --> 05:02:41,910
all of your family was dead and the guy that killed them, they named the town after him.

3177
05:02:41,910 --> 05:02:50,490
How would you feel the name of Kelseyville is a slap in the face to all of our tribal brothers

3178
05:02:50,490 --> 05:02:51,150
and sisters?

3179
05:02:51,430 --> 05:02:52,130
That's all I have to say.

3180
05:02:52,490 --> 05:02:53,910
Thank you.

3181
05:02:54,070 --> 05:02:55,110
Thank you for your comment.

3182
05:02:55,710 --> 05:02:57,070
We're going to go to Zoom.

3183
05:02:57,350 --> 05:02:58,270
We have Katie Ray.

3184
05:03:10,960 --> 05:03:11,880
Yeah, we can hear you.

3185
05:03:11,920 --> 05:03:12,600
Can you try again?

3186
05:03:12,600 --> 05:03:14,480
It wasn't very clear.

3187
05:03:14,820 --> 05:03:15,040
Okay.

3188
05:03:15,140 --> 05:03:15,560
Hold on one.

3189
05:03:15,720 --> 05:03:16,040
Hold on.

3190
05:03:16,040 --> 05:03:16,400
It's perfect.

3191
05:03:16,740 --> 05:03:17,460
It's perfect.

3192
05:03:18,220 --> 05:03:18,440
Okay.

3193
05:03:18,440 --> 05:03:22,460
Nishong Nishong, Shikai, Shikai, Kiri Rashogoshah,

3194
05:03:22,740 --> 05:03:24,340
Nomalaki is Ketah.

3195
05:03:24,580 --> 05:03:25,640
Why likely is Ketah?

3196
05:03:25,780 --> 05:03:27,220
Wintun is Ketah.

3197
05:03:27,500 --> 05:03:28,080
Good afternoon.

3198
05:03:29,100 --> 05:03:30,880
A steamed board and community members.

3199
05:03:32,220 --> 05:03:34,360
I'm apologizing first, but I'm not there.

3200
05:03:34,600 --> 05:03:37,800
I'm a Southern California out of conference, otherwise I would.

3201
05:03:38,820 --> 05:03:43,400
During this process, I have had the opportunity to speak with members from both sides.

3202
05:03:43,900 --> 05:03:47,620
I have, of course, been able to speak with many of our tribal members, community members,

3203
05:03:47,620 --> 05:03:52,780
And the number of our youth, which, if I were at home, I would have you there today.

3204
05:03:54,360 --> 05:03:59,620
One of the things that I keep hearing is that we don't want to change the name and erase the history.

3205
05:04:00,600 --> 05:04:04,560
Unfortunately, for many years, our history is not taught.

3206
05:04:05,300 --> 05:04:09,560
Like many have said, you can't find our history in the history books we don't learn about it in school.

3207
05:04:11,380 --> 05:04:15,300
Starting next year, we will be learning about this in ninth grade.

3208
05:04:15,980 --> 05:04:26,980
This will not be forgotten. It will no longer be erased as it is now going to be a part of the curriculum and a graduation requirement for our youth to go through ethnic studies.

3209
05:04:28,000 --> 05:04:38,880
Thankfully, our Board of Supervisors, the sits of him in Lake County, decided not to use the California camps curriculum, but to have us create curriculum to be taught about the local history.

3210
05:04:39,740 --> 05:04:44,280
One of those components is going to be the bloody iron massacre, so they will be learning

3211
05:04:44,280 --> 05:04:48,560
about Kelsey and Stone and everything that happened to the tribes within the community.

3212
05:04:50,870 --> 05:04:55,210
One of the things that really bothers me is that this was not brought up by any of the tribes,

3213
05:04:55,210 --> 05:04:59,970
But we're now the ones that are fighting this fight.

3214
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:07,940
Like it's been said. And a thing that I see from a lot of the looks that I do in the county is the lack of diversity.

3215
05:05:09,100 --> 05:05:14,660
We need to remember that accessibility is being able to get in the building. The diversity is getting invited to the table.

3216
05:05:15,120 --> 05:05:20,220
Inclusion is having a voice of the table and belonging is having your voice heard at the table.

3217
05:05:20,960 --> 05:05:25,620
We need to make sure that while we're in this process that, yes, we listen to both sides.

3218
05:05:25,620 --> 05:05:32,060
that we remember that we want shielding and not to destroy what we're trying to do here.

3219
05:05:32,520 --> 05:05:37,420
This has been very hard for a lot of us being brown living in Calcidil,

3220
05:05:37,600 --> 05:05:41,720
working in Calcidil, having kids in Calcidil, it is not then and is a year.

3221
05:05:42,000 --> 05:05:42,700
We can tell you that.

3222
05:05:43,880 --> 05:05:47,620
But I still go to fundraisers. I still go to board meetings.

3223
05:05:47,660 --> 05:05:52,560
I still go to a lot of things and sit across the table with people that oppose what I like.

3224
05:05:53,140 --> 05:05:54,460
What I need to hear.

3225
05:05:54,980 --> 05:05:57,940
And I'm going to continue to do that because I want to see change.

3226
05:05:58,560 --> 05:06:02,060
So we need to figure out how to do this to where it doesn't demolish everything that we have

3227
05:06:02,060 --> 05:06:09,000
because the community and the community events and the community ties are amazing in a small town such as

3228
05:06:09,000 --> 05:06:09,620
K-ville.

3229
05:06:10,300 --> 05:06:17,620
So if we can come together and figure something out for all of us, rather than be indicted on what we should do, I think it would be best.

3230
05:06:18,080 --> 05:06:18,440
Thank you.

3231
05:06:19,340 --> 05:06:20,460
Thank you for your comment.

3232
05:06:22,700 --> 05:06:24,300
Anyone else in the Chamber of Wish to speak?

3233
05:06:24,360 --> 05:06:25,340
Please come on up.

3234
05:06:25,920 --> 05:06:28,920
I have no more further hands and zoom at this moment.

3235
05:06:30,080 --> 05:06:37,020
If we were in the John Costa, if we were in the U.S. Senate, 71% would be filibuster proof.

3236
05:06:39,530 --> 05:06:40,510
It would be law.

3237
05:06:42,860 --> 05:06:47,200
But there's a fifth option that none of you have thought of.

3238
05:06:47,460 --> 05:06:50,680
If you don't want to do the people's bidding, resign.

3239
05:06:54,320 --> 05:06:57,380
Your jobs are to do what the people want.

3240
05:06:58,640 --> 05:06:59,700
We took a vote.

3241
05:07:00,320 --> 05:07:06,700
Think about the damage that will be done if you don't follow the vote.

3242
05:07:07,880 --> 05:07:14,820
Why should we vote? Ask yourselves. Why should we vote if you're not going to follow it?

3243
05:07:15,720 --> 05:07:24,900
I understand that you didn't want it on the ballot, but someone told the long time ago reality always wins.

3244
05:07:27,650 --> 05:07:30,070
The reality of it is it was on the ballot.

3245
05:07:30,070 --> 05:07:38,030
But the reality of it is almost 71% said no, you're not going to change that.

3246
05:07:40,480 --> 05:07:48,820
So you can either accept it or come up with an excuse and say, voting doesn't matter,

3247
05:07:51,700 --> 05:07:52,800
voting doesn't matter.

3248
05:07:53,200 --> 05:07:54,440
So then why do you matter?

3249
05:07:55,980 --> 05:07:56,820
Have a good day.

3250
05:07:58,100 --> 05:07:59,100
Thank you for your comment.

3251
05:08:06,960 --> 05:08:09,120
My name is James Tavaras Rubello.

3252
05:08:09,120 --> 05:08:21,180
My great-grandfatherers were Juan Pedro de Silva, Juan Tavarras Robello, Matthew Tien, and Jonathan

3253
05:08:21,180 --> 05:08:22,200
Quorum Jewish.

3254
05:08:25,420 --> 05:08:32,600
You have been elected to serve in our county to represent us, where a country of law

3255
05:08:32,600 --> 05:08:38,800
somebody mentioned earlier, the laws are supposed to be produced of the people, by the

3256
05:08:38,800 --> 05:08:46,720
people and for the people. And we're speaking for the people right now. Passing along to this

3257
05:08:46,720 --> 05:08:53,240
organization that is set up to create these changes. What are they going to do with San Francisco?

3258
05:08:58,130 --> 05:09:10,130
Primaat, Stockton, San Jose, Santa Clara, Santa Rosa, those are all non-native, they're not

3259
05:09:10,130 --> 05:09:16,070
geographic, but they're accepted and I don't think they're going to get changed. They have

3260
05:09:16,070 --> 05:09:22,730
much more of pull than we have, they're much larger than we are. Do your business, do what

3261
05:09:22,730 --> 05:09:28,830
one to do. You chose to have the whole county vote. You could have chosen to have less

3262
05:09:28,830 --> 05:09:36,590
people vote, but everybody got to vote and as they point out over and over 71% voted

3263
05:09:36,590 --> 05:09:43,950
to keep the name. There's a lot of history that all of us have baggage that comes along.

3264
05:09:44,790 --> 05:09:51,390
Here's Stone and Kelsey being thrown out and thrown out. I believe they died at the hands of the tribal people.

3265
05:09:52,150 --> 05:09:59,970
Okay. I hear stories that sound impossible to be that. These two men would hold these all.

3266
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:14,860
All these tribes as slaves. How do they do it? How do they take all these people to drag them up to the mines to aid for gold? How do they do these things? How do they do any kind of business? Before they are more of the bullails.

3267
05:10:17,390 --> 05:10:24,770
Before that, they were the various missions around. They all have bad sides. Do your job.

3268
05:10:26,500 --> 05:10:28,200
Thank you for your comment,

3269
05:10:34,400 --> 05:10:35,880
Alan Fletcher, citizens for healing.

3270
05:10:40,730 --> 05:10:47,790
When we started the process along a suit and the like, we involved tribal people who

3271
05:10:47,790 --> 05:10:57,370
advised us, and Ron Mantel's senior behind me, got approval from elders of all seven tribes

3272
05:10:57,370 --> 05:11:01,030
before we filed our proposal with the BGN.

3273
05:11:01,590 --> 05:11:11,830
We held them meeting in the Habermas-Talal Hall in Upper Lake and nobody, the tribal members who attended said,

3274
05:11:11,890 --> 05:11:25,560
thank you for doing us. They said they appreciated it was the first time they've invited to sit at the table and that was approval we got before we filed with the BGN.

3275
05:11:26,180 --> 05:11:31,760
In terms of consulting with local people, we held a series of meetings around the lake,

3276
05:11:31,980 --> 05:11:36,160
kicking off as close to Calciples as we could in Big Valley Hall.

3277
05:11:37,460 --> 05:11:41,520
We publicly announced that we were proposing the name Kanakta,

3278
05:11:42,600 --> 05:11:44,960
when opponents came to one other meeting and said,

3279
05:11:45,160 --> 05:11:48,140
what name would you like? They said, Calciples, Calciples, Calciples.

3280
05:11:48,480 --> 05:11:51,640
They refused to even consider another name.

3281
05:11:53,460 --> 05:11:59,420
The ballot is a sledgehammer and the nut is totally correct.

3282
05:12:02,130 --> 05:12:08,170
It was written, so somebody just reading it has no idea why that proposal was to change the name,

3283
05:12:08,530 --> 05:12:13,130
because it's offensive. That wasn't on the ballot. It was just shall we change the name, yes or no.

3284
05:12:13,810 --> 05:12:17,370
Not who buy, not who too, not why, not nothing.

3285
05:12:18,470 --> 05:12:20,770
I'm surprised we even got 30%.

3286
05:12:20,770 --> 05:12:27,770
We don't have two precincts that we got over 50% yes, only 200 voters or so between them, but we did it.

3287
05:12:30,620 --> 05:12:40,880
No, what if the vote had been 3% yes, if only the native Americans had voted yes and everybody else voted no.

3288
05:12:41,800 --> 05:12:51,340
If the vote had been 3% yes, 97% no, was that, have made the name not offensive to the 3%?

3289
05:12:53,000 --> 05:13:00,420
You issued proclamation back in February of 2021, saying the county supports respect.

3290
05:13:01,440 --> 05:13:10,020
Is it respectful to those three percent to insist that they have to endure this offensive and e-calcy?

3291
05:13:10,840 --> 05:13:14,600
Right murder children, Ben Kelsey, shot Indians in the street?

3292
05:13:16,040 --> 05:13:19,060
Those are the people that the name Kelsey talks to.

3293
05:13:19,060 --> 05:13:20,720
one student, know the history.

3294
05:13:21,760 --> 05:13:22,880
They were evil people.

3295
05:13:23,520 --> 05:13:24,700
It's a horrible name.

3296
05:13:24,940 --> 05:13:26,140
It's a terrible brand.

3297
05:13:26,920 --> 05:13:30,200
I think, conduct I, 95, 4, 5, 1.

3298
05:13:30,700 --> 05:13:31,340
We'll survive.

3299
05:13:31,920 --> 05:13:33,040
Thank you.

3300
05:13:33,520 --> 05:13:34,420
Thank you for your comment.

3301
05:13:41,480 --> 05:13:42,920
Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors.

3302
05:13:43,280 --> 05:13:45,500
I'm Flaming McLeod, tribal chairman

3303
05:13:45,500 --> 05:13:46,540
and Big Valley, Rancheria.

3304
05:13:48,120 --> 05:13:50,820
On the ballot, you've seen my name for the argument

3305
05:13:50,820 --> 05:13:53,200
that I didn't write that statement alone.

3306
05:13:53,200 --> 05:14:02,020
That was information and put from all local six tribes of Lake County it just happened to have my name on it

3307
05:14:02,020 --> 05:14:08,880
I was debating on whether to come up here and talk because whatever's going to happen is gonna happen right here

3308
05:14:09,580 --> 05:14:10,120
right

3309
05:14:10,840 --> 05:14:14,000
But I'm compelled because I got people that are behind

3310
05:14:14,000 --> 05:14:19,760
My ancestors my grandmothers and my aunts and uncles just like you two up there

3311
05:14:19,760 --> 05:14:30,120
Right? And so for some of you, I know you have a little bit of confusion going on because you have that push, then you have your conscience to of the position that you hold. I don't admire it. Right?

3312
05:14:31,900 --> 05:14:41,320
You know, with this, uh, name change, right? Whether it goes forward or doesn't, right? I'll let you to know right now, right? From those times, so now we're still here.

3313
05:14:42,560 --> 05:14:46,680
We grow where part of this community and we'll keep growing. We'll keep thriving.

3314
05:14:46,680 --> 05:14:58,160
One thing that I thought of is, I want to thank our champions that help our people, Katie Ray, Kyle Bill, Nancy, all these people that help allies if you call them, right?

3315
05:14:58,420 --> 05:14:59,980
Some are native, some are not, right?

3316
05:15:00,840 --> 05:15:07,020
And whether they know the stuff that we go through or not, you know, they're still there to help our people. They see the stuff that we suffer.

3317
05:15:07,500 --> 05:15:10,940
And it's things that we'll continue to go through on in time, whatever.

3318
05:15:11,820 --> 05:15:20,860
Right? My job as a tribal leader is to help my people progress, protect my people, and do what I can to make them more fortunate and better in the future.

3319
05:15:20,860 --> 05:15:25,080
My, our children, right, because I'm not worried about me, right?

3320
05:15:25,420 --> 05:15:34,240
I'm worried about where we're going in the future, what we have to endure, and all the things that we've endured in the past, our ancestors, all of that, we're still here.

3321
05:15:34,360 --> 05:15:40,720
I'll tell you that again. We're still here. Right. I respect and appreciate how the vote went, right?

3322
05:15:40,880 --> 05:15:47,820
That's how the people spoke. You hit it on the head, right? You said about 30%. I admired the things you say, man.

3323
05:15:47,820 --> 05:15:49,920
because you say it from the heart, you say what you feel,

3324
05:15:50,220 --> 05:15:51,880
you don't care who gets hurt, right?

3325
05:15:52,040 --> 05:15:54,420
Because it's a truth for you, right?

3326
05:15:57,020 --> 05:15:58,800
You know, like I said, whether it any changes

3327
05:15:58,800 --> 05:16:00,500
or it stays, right?

3328
05:16:00,840 --> 05:16:02,420
We're gonna keep thriving, right?

3329
05:16:02,420 --> 05:16:04,720
That's what we do as native people, right?

3330
05:16:06,600 --> 05:16:08,500
And again, I respect what they said.

3331
05:16:09,660 --> 05:16:11,080
They're saying that, you know,

3332
05:16:11,140 --> 05:16:13,820
you guys were putting these positions with votes, right?

3333
05:16:15,080 --> 05:16:17,540
But back in July 30th, right?

3334
05:16:18,200 --> 05:16:21,060
They wanted you guys to have a put to a vote to the county,

3335
05:16:21,180 --> 05:16:23,880
and not respect that you were put there through votes, right?

3336
05:16:24,300 --> 05:16:25,700
And now that it's coming back here,

3337
05:16:26,160 --> 05:16:27,660
it's respect to vote of the county,

3338
05:16:28,320 --> 05:16:29,320
not your guys' decision.

3339
05:16:30,180 --> 05:16:32,480
It's very confusing for me, right?

3340
05:16:34,120 --> 05:16:36,720
And like I said, I have people that stand behind me, right?

3341
05:16:37,180 --> 05:16:39,220
And I didn't want to do a disservice to my ancestors,

3342
05:16:39,320 --> 05:16:41,520
and I'll come up here and speak, right?

3343
05:16:42,620 --> 05:16:48,560
we'll carry forward. We'll be very progressive, but thank you guys. Thank you for your comment.

3344
05:16:56,040 --> 05:17:00,600
So Rob Brown, Kelseyville, in true tradition, I'll probably end up pissing both sides off.

3345
05:17:00,860 --> 05:17:08,840
Here we go. I'm more interested in the integrity of the process and this Board of Supervisors.

3346
05:17:09,160 --> 05:17:17,800
I have a lot invested in that, and I think the Board needs to, first of all, I don't think the election should have taken place.

3347
05:17:17,800 --> 05:17:26,960
to begin with, it was a waste of money, and it's just an advisory, I think efforts could be spent in other areas, and I'll tell you an example of that.

3348
05:17:27,740 --> 05:17:43,180
I've talked to EJ about this. This conversation, all of this time, all of this money, everything that's been spent, would have been much better spent on something that my wife, Angela, I've witnessed over the last several years as we travel over the United States.

3349
05:17:43,180 --> 05:17:53,100
And we go to a lot of different cultural centers, Native American cultural centers throughout the United States and Southwest mostly, but they're unbelievable.

3350
05:17:53,400 --> 05:18:05,720
And that's what we lack here in Lake County. We have a lot to offer with that. I'd like to be a part of that, even though I'm native to Kelseyville, but I'm not native in the same sense that you would speak to here.

3351
05:18:06,840 --> 05:18:16,320
But the county has a ton of land they could donate to that and dip some of these different parks a lot could be spent on that and I think that would be a a positive

3352
05:18:17,560 --> 05:18:21,320
Approach towards healing or whatever that looks like whatever

3353
05:18:22,440 --> 05:18:28,080
I'm a little too old to be using using this feel good stuff, but you know what I mean

3354
05:18:29,200 --> 05:18:29,640
the

3355
05:18:30,580 --> 05:18:32,360
But the board and I

3356
05:18:32,360 --> 05:18:34,880
This is where I piss off the side that I

3357
05:18:35,720 --> 05:18:40,120
probably going to be on, but the board's obligation is not to vote for what the majority

3358
05:18:40,120 --> 05:18:44,180
said, because here you're looking at a guy who voted against every dope grower in the

3359
05:18:44,180 --> 05:18:51,800
county, even though the votes, it was passed, made legal in Lake County and state of California.

3360
05:18:52,100 --> 05:18:54,180
You vote how you feel is right.

3361
05:18:55,300 --> 05:19:02,000
If we voted, if the majority could determine what was right or wrong, we'd still have slavery.

3362
05:19:02,000 --> 05:19:10,900
So I think the board still, and this is, you know, trying to keep, I have the board give the board an opportunity to maintain its integrity as what the board is really about.

3363
05:19:11,120 --> 05:19:16,600
You got to vote with how you feel not with some advisory nonsense votes that probably shouldn't have taken place to begin with.

3364
05:19:16,880 --> 05:19:31,200
I think you should keep the name, but I don't think it's because of, you know, it was actually 74 75.7% in district five and in Kelseyville, where the vote was, but I still want to see the board.

3365
05:19:31,200 --> 05:19:37,160
do the right thing based on their heart, not based on some public opinion poll, basically

3366
05:19:37,160 --> 05:19:38,080
is what this was.

3367
05:19:38,480 --> 05:19:41,280
But I also want to say Jessica with all due respect.

3368
05:19:42,220 --> 05:19:43,520
Neutrality is not leadership.

3369
05:19:47,030 --> 05:19:47,690
Thank you very much.

3370
05:19:52,000 --> 05:19:52,140
Please.

3371
05:19:53,740 --> 05:19:55,260
And then I'm going to jump back to Zoom.

3372
05:19:55,400 --> 05:19:56,780
We've had a hand waiting in the wild.

3373
05:19:57,780 --> 05:19:58,060
Hello.

3374
05:19:58,120 --> 05:19:58,340
Hello.

3375
05:19:58,360 --> 05:19:58,440
Hello.

3376
05:19:59,020 --> 05:19:59,900
Middle Town.

3377
05:20:00,500 --> 05:20:08,200
And I feel that when I was running for supervisor for district one, I'll be taken moat's position.

3378
05:20:08,280 --> 05:20:09,740
If you can please speak to the board.

3379
05:20:11,220 --> 05:20:19,580
One of the things I had brought up, I had the honor of going to the very first Native American forum in Lake County.

3380
05:20:20,680 --> 05:20:25,980
And one of the things I brought up at that point was that there's more than one way to skin a cat, basically.

3381
05:20:25,980 --> 05:20:32,920
I think that we are miss in the culture that Rob had just mentioned, and that's something

3382
05:20:32,920 --> 05:20:36,660
I would really like to see coupled with Kelseyville.

3383
05:20:36,920 --> 05:20:42,340
I believe that we, there's a number obviously, a people that want to keep that name, but

3384
05:20:42,340 --> 05:20:47,400
at the same time, I would love to see something good come out of it.

3385
05:20:47,940 --> 05:20:54,480
Natives, I've always looked up to them and had a great deal of respect for the native culture.

3386
05:20:54,480 --> 05:21:00,960
And I think we're missing an opportunity here to showcase our native culture in this area.

3387
05:21:01,400 --> 05:21:06,320
And I think that something could be built around it that was positive, that would bring

3388
05:21:06,960 --> 05:21:15,840
our, that would bring revenue and education to Lake County and be a centerpiece and be

3389
05:21:15,840 --> 05:21:21,800
able to bring your culture to the forefront here and not just go back 150 years but go back

3390
05:21:21,800 --> 05:21:27,460
thousands of years and share that and use it for education and come up with some type of

3391
05:21:27,460 --> 05:21:34,080
museum or something around all of this I think would be phenomenal and I think it could

3392
05:21:34,080 --> 05:21:40,140
do just and somebody had mentioned the little big horn and custer's last stand well

3393
05:21:40,140 --> 05:21:44,440
they're kind of combined you look up look you look up custer's last stand and it was

3394
05:21:44,440 --> 05:21:49,360
actually at the little big horn so they've used both of them to bring that together

3395
05:21:49,360 --> 05:21:55,020
and I think that we're kind of missing an opportunity here to make

3396
05:21:55,020 --> 05:21:58,860
lemonade at a limit. Thank you. Thank you.

3397
05:22:01,140 --> 05:22:02,580
We're going to go to Zoom. We have

3398
05:22:02,580 --> 05:22:02,980
Ariel.

3399
05:22:18,910 --> 05:22:24,430
All right. Can you hear me now? We can hear you. I don't know how to

3400
05:22:24,430 --> 05:22:27,770
lower the hand. You think that I would have learned that over all these

3401
05:22:27,770 --> 05:22:33,370
years through the pandemic. But at any rate, I have I have started my

3402
05:22:33,370 --> 05:22:36,250
stopwatch because I only get through minutes and I don't want to take too

3403
05:22:36,250 --> 05:22:43,670
much time, but I think it's educational, over at the, oh, by the way, I'm with the Lake

3404
05:22:43,670 --> 05:22:48,390
County Record via Council, I have a program at KPFC, as probably many of you know.

3405
05:22:49,650 --> 05:22:57,450
But, all my reading on this issue, I have not really had the opportunity, oh, and I think

3406
05:22:57,450 --> 05:23:03,810
it might be beneficial for the public to hear from this safe, countable side.

3407
05:23:04,430 --> 05:23:33,190
I know the speakers have talked about Mr. Mark Borgh Gassani has talked about how, and I'm sorry by which are that name, but has talked about how difficult it would be, how expensive it would be to change the name, but there's no hard data that I've seen on that, I mean, to have they ran the numbers, how much would it cost, I mean, then he's a big business person in this community, how expensive would it be, how difficult would it be?

3408
05:23:33,190 --> 05:23:37,210
that type of information has been missing, and just for my own

3409
05:23:37,210 --> 05:23:40,450
education and education, I would like to know that part of the story.

3410
05:23:40,510 --> 05:23:43,510
And I'm sure a lot of people out there in the public would probably benefit from hearing that.

3411
05:23:43,810 --> 05:23:48,610
It's a strange world that we are in now where I live in district five,

3412
05:23:48,830 --> 05:23:54,870
and I proud of Lake County resident, as well as a member of the media, local media,

3413
05:23:54,950 --> 05:23:59,490
but it's a strange world that we're living now where I agree with some of the comments made by

3414
05:23:59,490 --> 05:24:07,690
a supervisor, a district five supervisor, a drop round, but be that as it may. I think it's going to be a

3415
05:24:07,690 --> 05:24:11,570
education like we get that part of the story. That's all I have to say. Thank you.

3416
05:24:11,650 --> 05:24:12,650
Thank you for your comment.

3417
05:24:13,390 --> 05:24:16,950
That's all the hands that I have in Zoom at this moment, some coming back to the chamber.

3418
05:24:17,350 --> 05:24:19,570
Anyone else wish to speak on this item.

3419
05:24:22,880 --> 05:24:24,400
If you've already spoken, I would like.

3420
05:24:24,760 --> 05:24:25,840
I spoke to Matt.

3421
05:24:26,140 --> 05:24:27,340
I'm staying and he suggested.

3422
05:24:27,820 --> 05:24:31,180
Well done. If you've already spoken, we have individuals who have not spoken.

3423
05:24:31,180 --> 05:24:32,680
I'm sorry for that incident.

3424
05:24:33,340 --> 05:24:33,580
I'm sorry.

3425
05:24:33,800 --> 05:24:37,460
So you told me to come up last and present my option number six.

3426
05:24:37,740 --> 05:24:38,580
Thank you.

3427
05:24:42,950 --> 05:24:47,150
So I just like to allow the elder to go if she has a prepared statement.

3428
05:24:47,870 --> 05:24:49,470
And I'll reserve my time up if she's done.

3429
05:24:58,040 --> 05:24:59,820
So we came in today with three options.

3430
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:10,080
Now we're up to five options. According to the U.S. Board and Geographic names that they're going to be, when they sit down

3431
05:25:10,080 --> 05:25:16,540
to make their decision, they're going to have three options. Option number one is to keep the name

3432
05:25:16,540 --> 05:25:27,280
Kelseyville. Option number two is to change the name to Kelseyville from Kelseyville to

3433
05:25:27,280 --> 05:25:34,780
Chelseaville is offensive, and then send it back to the community to decide on another name.

3434
05:25:36,200 --> 05:25:36,680
Thank

3435
05:25:45,380 --> 05:25:45,860
you.

3436
05:25:46,120 --> 05:25:49,860
Good afternoon, I'm Board of Supervisors, my name's Puzzle Brown, I'm a member of the

3437
05:25:49,860 --> 05:25:55,880
LEM, Pummel Tribe, and I have a statement I'm going to read, and also a few comments

3438
05:25:55,880 --> 05:25:59,020
I want to make as this name change has progressed.

3439
05:26:00,220 --> 05:26:05,610
So first I want to say that Americans have to stop loving all its killers.

3440
05:26:06,850 --> 05:26:11,010
Americans need to stop ordering its killers by naming universities, cities, towns, institutions,

3441
05:26:11,250 --> 05:26:12,570
the streets and their names.

3442
05:26:13,730 --> 05:26:17,470
Unfortunately for the tribal people and the original owners of this land, and but any

3443
05:26:17,470 --> 05:26:20,730
potential equity created by the name James feels like a pression that the European

3444
05:26:20,730 --> 05:26:22,870
American collective of Kelseyville and Lake County.

3445
05:26:24,250 --> 05:26:27,990
When equity feels like a pression, this is a clear sign of the unbalanced power and dynamics

3446
05:26:27,990 --> 05:26:32,710
that support the eraser, minimization, pain and trauma created by the Kelseyville and

3447
05:26:32,710 --> 05:26:33,750
the name Kelseyville.

3448
05:26:34,410 --> 05:26:44,310
This name has perpetuated by the people of Calcyville today as seen and heard over the previous months and dialogue at open hearings, side bars,

3449
05:26:46,730 --> 05:26:47,790
today it's still no concern.

3450
05:26:48,810 --> 05:26:53,430
So the people who don't share live experience with the name of Calcyville and all that it comes comes with it.

3451
05:26:53,730 --> 05:26:58,310
Tribal people's American experience this time in history has been for the most part a continued nightmare.

3452
05:26:59,370 --> 05:27:04,310
And we need to understand that nightmare by having these dialogues and looking into our history.

3453
05:27:05,350 --> 05:27:09,030
Tribal people have survived and lived through the sanctions genocide policies of 24 United States presidents

3454
05:27:09,030 --> 05:27:11,790
and more than 500 years of American settler violence.

3455
05:27:13,210 --> 05:27:13,790
Well documented.

3456
05:27:15,210 --> 05:27:18,350
The European Founding Fathers created a country based on a system of white supremacy,

3457
05:27:19,050 --> 05:27:22,010
racism and colonization at the cost of indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere.

3458
05:27:22,970 --> 05:27:26,770
This is the legacy of the United States America has left to us all the people here.

3459
05:27:28,030 --> 05:27:32,350
With that statement being said, there is much truth in that statement.

3460
05:27:33,270 --> 05:27:38,210
We might not all not all agree on the words in that statement, but the situation is that

3461
05:27:38,210 --> 05:27:40,030
we have to come together as a community in the people.

3462
05:27:41,170 --> 05:27:46,890
I've had a few dialogues with Kelseyville citizens who got to hear directly from my mouth and

3463
05:27:46,890 --> 05:27:53,350
my concerns with the name of Kelseyville and productive dialogue happened and one of the things

3464
05:27:53,350 --> 05:28:00,190
that the citizens for healing did was create opportunity to have a dialogue that is currently

3465
05:28:00,190 --> 05:28:06,750
happening with some levels of our community. And there's a way forward. There's a way

3466
05:28:06,750 --> 05:28:11,690
forward for us to learn about what has happened here. One of the things that I think is important

3467
05:28:11,690 --> 05:28:18,610
is when we talk about erasure, the place names that were changed when the Kelsey's arrived that

3468
05:28:18,610 --> 05:28:22,230
name would have never changed if they didn't kill the people they killed. So we have to look at

3469
05:28:22,230 --> 05:28:26,450
balance in what took place. We'd like to dismiss it because for some of us it

3470
05:28:26,450 --> 05:28:31,630
happened so long ago. Well for many of us that's just two generations away. And so

3471
05:28:31,630 --> 05:28:37,130
we have to understand these dynamics and create a solution. I heard on the way over here

3472
05:28:38,170 --> 05:28:42,190
former supervisor Brown talked about a cultural center. That's an important step to

3473
05:28:42,190 --> 05:28:47,530
talking about the history. That's an important step to inform our community of what has

3474
05:28:47,530 --> 05:28:52,110
happened here. And until we do that there's always going to be this dialogue of

3475
05:28:52,850 --> 05:28:57,110
who's wrong and your three minutes are up and all the things that come with it so I just

3476
05:28:57,110 --> 05:29:03,690
like to say an Indian that dialogue needs to continue and also as the owner of customer number

3477
05:29:03,690 --> 05:29:08,990
said, I would like to be involved in that dialogue as it moves forward. So thank you for your time.

3478
05:29:08,990 --> 05:29:08,990
I

3479
05:29:12,860 --> 05:29:20,180
see no one getting up in the chamber if you have another comment to make. I will go ahead and take

3480
05:29:20,180 --> 05:29:26,600
your second comments, I do have another one from a second as well in Facebook, Facebook.

3481
05:29:27,680 --> 05:29:32,300
Zoom, if we can keep it to one minute since this is your second time coming up, I'd like to.

3482
05:29:32,300 --> 05:29:40,740
Because many minutes as you will allow me, it seems it appears to me now that I've heard all this dialogue that really is, there's a giant gap of own education.

3483
05:29:40,960 --> 05:29:42,920
These guys think they actually voted on something.

3484
05:29:43,420 --> 05:29:49,600
And actually, to dovetail off with a gentleman said, who's on the other side of what I believe in, he said.

3485
05:29:49,600 --> 05:29:59,980
That it was a public opinion survey and it actually was like a litmus test like a pulse to see how many people are paying attention in this county has nothing to do with registered voters or how many actually

3486
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:09,460
We got their took us out and voted. What it has to do with is that the wording on that vote, I voted, okay? I'm a registered voter.

3487
05:30:10,500 --> 05:30:19,820
I'm a card carrying registered voter, okay? And that dialogue was completely slanted. Hey, they've decided already.

3488
05:30:20,220 --> 05:30:27,280
So why would I not go to the majority if I'm uneducated or ignorant in the true sense of the word, not knowing the story?

3489
05:30:27,280 --> 05:30:33,860
Because in me it's black and white. There are two sides to this. If they know about it and they're educated

3490
05:30:33,860 --> 05:30:40,360
They're sure they're not going to want to be named a town after it like he said if they're uneducated and they're ignorant of the facts

3491
05:30:40,360 --> 05:30:48,940
Please finish then they are going to be a cheerleader for a ridiculous cause which is reprehensible

3492
05:30:49,940 --> 05:30:50,940
Thank you

3493
05:30:50,940 --> 05:30:53,280
Thank you for your comment

3494
05:30:59,820 --> 05:31:03,200
We're done at this point, we're done at this point.

3495
05:31:03,720 --> 05:31:10,340
If we can get Nora on Zoom for a final comment, again, please, I'll keep it to one minute.

3496
05:31:11,400 --> 05:31:11,440
Absolutely.

3497
05:31:11,720 --> 05:31:12,340
It's real quick.

3498
05:31:12,480 --> 05:31:17,080
I would just like to stand by I've learned on that option that was not discussed that

3499
05:31:17,080 --> 05:31:21,600
we tell the BDN, we would like to change the name as a community, but we'd like

3500
05:31:21,600 --> 05:31:44,400
chance for us to come together and find a name that we get all work with. I think that seems to be from all the comments, the most amicable decision that will allow more education, allow more conversation amongst people. I think we've actually come really far since earlier this year and it's really great to see. So thank you again, Lorna for stepping in. I know you've taken a lot of heat for this.

3501
05:31:45,200 --> 05:31:46,280
Thank you for your comment.

3502
05:31:46,820 --> 05:31:54,280
So I'm going to close down public comment to this point, actually, I'll make one last call any further public comments before I shut it down.

3503
05:31:55,560 --> 05:31:56,780
Okay, so there are still more.

3504
05:31:59,690 --> 05:32:01,570
If you don't stand up and line up, I-

3505
05:32:01,570 --> 05:32:02,190
I- I don't worry.

3506
05:32:02,310 --> 05:32:02,550
I don't know.

3507
05:32:02,550 --> 05:32:02,670
I don't know.

3508
05:32:02,870 --> 05:32:02,930
I don't know.

3509
05:32:03,030 --> 05:32:03,590
I don't know.

3510
05:32:03,590 --> 05:32:07,890
I don't know.

3511
05:32:07,890 --> 05:32:18,190
It is hard to be a Native American today as it hasn't really changed.

3512
05:32:18,910 --> 05:32:23,110
When you talk about this history, it's not history.

3513
05:32:23,570 --> 05:32:25,410
The mentality still goes on today.

3514
05:32:25,870 --> 05:32:26,810
There's still racism.

3515
05:32:27,190 --> 05:32:28,410
I experienced it myself.

3516
05:32:28,970 --> 05:32:30,070
I sat in a restaurant.

3517
05:32:30,310 --> 05:32:33,150
I said, I'm just telling me that all my people do

3518
05:32:33,150 --> 05:32:34,470
is get drunk all day long.

3519
05:32:34,510 --> 05:32:36,610
Live in dirty homes, live off their parents.

3520
05:32:37,010 --> 05:32:38,050
I have no parents.

3521
05:32:38,490 --> 05:32:42,090
I rent, I go to school, I have an education.

3522
05:32:42,290 --> 05:32:43,390
You told me I was not educated.

3523
05:32:43,630 --> 05:32:46,490
I held a A, A. I'm a single mom.

3524
05:32:46,490 --> 05:32:48,170
I'm raising my child by myself.

3525
05:32:49,870 --> 05:33:02,830
It is not done. It's not over. It continues. That name continues to bear the mentality that was done a long time ago.

3526
05:33:05,140 --> 05:33:14,060
That's not considered. You guys tell us to get over it. How do you get over something like that? You can't get over that.

3527
05:33:14,880 --> 05:33:22,180
it's historical trauma, it's trauma that our kids will carry. My kid's going to carry

3528
05:33:22,180 --> 05:33:29,020
that. His kid is going to carry that. He's my second generation. I got seven, five other

3529
05:33:29,020 --> 05:33:37,400
that I need to worry about. In my time. In my time being here on earth and being a tribal leader.

3530
05:33:37,440 --> 05:33:39,380
I need to speak for them.

3531
05:33:42,380 --> 05:33:45,900
He's here. I pulled him out of school so he could be here. So he's

3532
05:33:45,900 --> 05:33:54,780
He's sitting here listening to all of this, and he's going to grow up understanding what this board is for, and their decisions that they make.

3533
05:33:55,220 --> 05:34:00,000
And like Kyle said, you're guys, his hearts.

3534
05:34:01,880 --> 05:34:09,860
Your actions here today in your lack thereof and your decisions in lack thereof are speaking louder than what you are not saying.

3535
05:34:10,600 --> 05:34:12,640
and he's going to know that

3536
05:34:15,680 --> 05:34:35,260
your job is not to be liked. I sit on my counsel. My job isn't to be liked. My job is to make the right decisions for my people and to make sure that what I do, the business, I conduct better serves their life and that is your job.

3537
05:34:37,300 --> 05:34:41,580
Thank you for your comment. I believe there was more.

3538
05:34:42,800 --> 05:34:45,120
I, Mary Morris, Kelceville resident,

3539
05:34:47,620 --> 05:34:52,760
a lot of us do recognize the horrible things that have happened in the past.

3540
05:34:53,540 --> 05:34:59,980
Unfortunately, we can't change that. We also don't want to forget it. I really like the idea of the cultural system.

3541
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:14,120
Which I think is way past overdue. What I would like to say is one person commented that there's not, it's not that big a deal to change the name for people.

3542
05:35:14,600 --> 05:35:23,680
Our Kelseyville community is a huge amount of senior citizens, a large amount of them on social security, so very limited income.

3543
05:35:25,240 --> 05:35:33,820
It's like moving them to another town because they have to change everything, all of their bills, all of their documents.

3544
05:35:35,120 --> 05:35:38,080
It all has to be changed. Excuse me.

3545
05:35:38,940 --> 05:35:47,360
Yes, they do. If someone sends something to the town of Kelseyville through the postal service, which they have told us,

3546
05:35:47,360 --> 05:35:54,460
We have six months to change the name or they reject the mail, and that's called the post office.

3547
05:35:54,800 --> 05:35:55,480
That's a fact.

3548
05:35:56,580 --> 05:36:04,420
So what I'm saying is we do recognize the pain and I feel for everybody in here that has dealt with that.

3549
05:36:04,800 --> 05:36:05,780
I don't know how they feel.

3550
05:36:06,480 --> 05:36:10,060
We've all had issues in our lives, but that's not the point right now.

3551
05:36:10,060 --> 05:36:17,320
So my point is just very simple, to me the worst damage is going to be done to our elders,

3552
05:36:17,760 --> 05:36:23,680
no matter what nationality they are. 11% of Kelseyville is Native American and that came out

3553
05:36:23,680 --> 05:36:32,060
in the 2020 census, which is actually the highest number around the lake of natives. We have a very

3554
05:36:32,060 --> 05:36:39,880
large. This is going to be a hardship on all of them. And I ask you to just consider really how much healing

3555
05:36:40,060 --> 05:36:44,500
I think there's better ways to heal than to change the name.

3556
05:36:44,880 --> 05:36:48,880
None of us are proud of that, the man that they named just the first settler.

3557
05:36:48,980 --> 05:36:50,040
That's why it was named.

3558
05:36:50,280 --> 05:36:53,320
It wasn't, after him, it was after the first settler.

3559
05:36:53,780 --> 05:36:55,040
We're not proud of that.

3560
05:36:55,400 --> 05:37:01,600
And we're the first ones to tell people, you know, that monument makes him sound like he was this great.

3561
05:37:01,600 --> 05:37:02,240
He was not.

3562
05:37:02,420 --> 05:37:03,380
He was a horrible man.

3563
05:37:03,420 --> 05:37:10,040
He deserved to die as did stone, but we can move on in a more positive way.

3564
05:37:10,040 --> 05:37:16,780
And I just think of our seniors and that's my biggest concern is how and I've been told by a lot of the natives

3565
05:37:16,780 --> 05:37:24,280
Well then you need to go take care of it for them. I own a business. I can't be running around to people that don't know me for them

3566
05:37:24,280 --> 05:37:27,240
To give me their personal private information

3567
05:37:28,000 --> 05:37:32,320
So I'm asking you to please consider the bigger picture than just

3568
05:37:33,040 --> 05:37:36,460
Healing which healing is so important. I agree

3569
05:37:36,460 --> 05:37:43,000
But it's not the whole picture because this is going to be very wounding to many, many people.

3570
05:37:43,820 --> 05:37:44,700
Thank you for your time.

3571
05:37:45,820 --> 05:37:46,500
Thank you for your comment.

3572
05:37:47,060 --> 05:37:51,200
Is there anybody else in the board chamber that wishes to make a public comment?

3573
05:38:01,110 --> 05:38:04,050
My name is Francis Ford, I live in Lake County.

3574
05:38:04,870 --> 05:38:06,730
I live in the KLCville area.

3575
05:38:07,430 --> 05:38:10,990
I've been there not as long as some, and longer than some others.

3576
05:38:10,990 --> 05:38:22,150
I'm here to just ask that you remember the word you said in July that would maybe create

3577
05:38:22,150 --> 05:38:35,470
the hope that you would make an agenda for the BGN, several of you that said that you

3578
05:38:35,470 --> 05:38:41,950
would love to see it changed, and I would hope that if you can't do it together, you would

3579
05:38:41,950 --> 05:38:53,470
do it separately as yourselves, as citizens of yourselves. I don't know what you all think,

3580
05:38:53,870 --> 05:39:02,070
what you think about Kelseyville or why, but I feel like I was lied to again. And I've

3581
05:39:02,070 --> 05:39:09,630
lot of information about the natives and the things that they've been promised and the things

3582
05:39:09,630 --> 05:39:16,970
that they've lived through. And I feel like it was just another lie, putting it on the ballot.

3583
05:39:18,430 --> 05:39:21,250
Thank you. Thank you very much.

3584
05:39:36,820 --> 05:39:38,260
Did you want to make a comment, sir?

3585
05:39:38,920 --> 05:39:41,920
Please. Come on up to the microphone.

3586
05:39:45,400 --> 05:39:47,880
I know that somebody offered some help and he said he was

3587
05:39:47,880 --> 05:39:49,720
Thank

3588
05:39:51,890 --> 05:39:53,530
you Kevin. Good afternoon.

3589
05:39:55,570 --> 05:39:59,950
My name is Francis William Howell and I love you.

3590
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:03,060
Live in that alleged town.

3591
05:40:05,720 --> 05:40:10,460
I hope that by the time you people reach my age, that you have something

3592
05:40:10,460 --> 05:40:24,880
better to do with your time, then to try to convince people that the human part of humanity

3593
05:40:24,880 --> 05:40:35,140
has a meaning. Now I know that's a tough question. However,

3594
05:40:40,110 --> 05:40:42,230
I think that I think you

3595
05:40:42,230 --> 05:40:48,670
will all do the right thing, which would probably be changing the name of that

3596
05:40:48,670 --> 05:40:56,010
down to anything, anything but Andrew. I mean the guy was a devil.

3597
05:40:58,480 --> 05:40:59,600
Thank you. Thank you very

3598
05:40:59,600 --> 05:41:02,100
much. Thank you for your comment.

3599
05:41:06,200 --> 05:41:06,880
One minute,

3600
05:41:09,380 --> 05:41:13,040
couple seconds. I disagree with what the

3601
05:41:13,040 --> 05:41:21,280
lady said earlier about the mail as long as you put zip code on it, it doesn't matter what

3602
05:41:21,280 --> 05:41:30,780
says it will go through. That's all there is to it. Thank you for your comment. Is there any other

3603
05:41:31,360 --> 05:41:34,200
public comment before I close down public comment?

3604
05:41:37,900 --> 05:41:39,640
And so you've already spoken so one minute.

3605
05:41:41,120 --> 05:41:47,740
Second to that. You know, I want to mention that the information that was put out

3606
05:41:49,040 --> 05:41:58,020
You know, onto the ballot wasn't correct, and they said there was some involvement with the, you know,

3607
05:41:58,280 --> 05:42:06,040
supervisors and everybody on crafting this, that be considered, and also, you know, the changes

3608
05:42:06,040 --> 05:42:07,500
come from the top down.

3609
05:42:08,060 --> 05:42:13,400
So everything changes that people don't have to change the names of their businesses, they don't

3610
05:42:13,400 --> 05:42:17,200
have to go to the DMV for the licenses or for the

3611
05:42:17,200 --> 05:42:20,240
deeds or wills everything's done from the top down and

3612
05:42:20,240 --> 05:42:23,920
that's it that's how it was done thank you for your

3613
05:42:26,830 --> 05:42:32,330
comment any one else I'm going to head and close public

3614
05:42:32,330 --> 05:42:35,310
comments I do see that we have a hand in zoom but I've

3615
05:42:35,310 --> 05:42:39,830
already provided a second attempt for the comments so I'm

3616
05:42:39,830 --> 05:42:44,530
going to shut that down as well bring it back to the board for

3617
05:42:44,530 --> 05:42:48,810
their deliberation or action and supervisor Simon.

3618
05:42:49,030 --> 05:42:50,290
Thank you, Jay, help me.

3619
05:42:50,470 --> 05:42:51,290
Vice Chair Crandell.

3620
05:42:51,870 --> 05:42:52,450
Thank you.

3621
05:42:54,330 --> 05:42:54,590
Thanks for coming.

3622
05:42:54,650 --> 05:42:57,750
Once one folks come up and you're constantly

3623
05:42:57,750 --> 05:42:59,510
pile on top and pile on top.

3624
05:42:59,970 --> 05:43:01,170
I think that's where this starts.

3625
05:43:01,450 --> 05:43:05,130
Being right, being wrong, being for tact.

3626
05:43:06,370 --> 05:43:09,590
What really hits me today that I appreciate

3627
05:43:09,590 --> 05:43:13,570
is from many people here is education.

3628
05:43:14,210 --> 05:43:15,890
Let's come to the table and talk.

3629
05:43:15,890 --> 05:43:20,370
I think that's a great thing to hear, and I think that's the right direction as well.

3630
05:43:21,470 --> 05:43:25,170
I like what Chairman Head said from Big Valley.

3631
05:43:25,410 --> 05:43:28,110
Lehman Head said is that we're going to be here regardless.

3632
05:43:28,530 --> 05:43:29,750
And that goes for everybody.

3633
05:43:30,390 --> 05:43:31,570
No one's going to leave.

3634
05:43:31,630 --> 05:43:36,230
I know at times there's been people that have come on and told people to go somewhere or do this or do.

3635
05:43:36,630 --> 05:43:37,870
No one's going to leave.

3636
05:43:38,350 --> 05:43:39,950
That's not what's going to happen.

3637
05:43:40,350 --> 05:43:44,270
So I'll start with that because I didn't write that or prepare that.

3638
05:43:44,270 --> 05:43:47,190
But that's just what I'm feeling right now.

3639
05:43:48,130 --> 05:43:51,710
I do also want to give a appreciation to people

3640
05:43:51,710 --> 05:43:54,930
that have taken time to come here to write comments.

3641
05:43:55,690 --> 05:43:58,950
In a tactful and respectful way, that's very important,

3642
05:43:58,990 --> 05:44:01,910
because there's been a lot that weren't.

3643
05:44:02,470 --> 05:44:06,050
And it makes it hard to not be personal when you're sitting

3644
05:44:06,050 --> 05:44:07,470
here or even in general.

3645
05:44:09,870 --> 05:44:16,250
I feel like this issue was thrust it among all of us, amongst all of us, by this submittal

3646
05:44:16,250 --> 05:44:19,730
to change, to connect, and no other name.

3647
05:44:21,050 --> 05:44:24,610
There were tribal historic officers and other tribal folks that have stated that should

3648
05:44:24,610 --> 05:44:30,290
have been deferred to the local tribe for what name that they felt it should be or what historically

3649
05:44:30,290 --> 05:44:37,770
is connected to that. In fact, the actual name of that town since time immorial before this was

3650
05:44:37,770 --> 05:44:44,470
called Honopati, which means fire village in a tribal historic preservation officer had taught

3651
05:44:44,470 --> 05:44:51,230
me that and showed me that. This issue has been dormant since the mascot change of 2008.

3652
05:44:52,990 --> 05:44:59,970
With this, the tribal people have had to get on board with what's been pushed without a lot of

3653
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:01,720
They said they had comments from elders.

3654
05:45:04,460 --> 05:45:14,700
The fact that there was no tribal leadership that imposed anything or had that option, when I was speaking with someone had said they tried to do that, but didn't know how.

3655
05:45:15,200 --> 05:45:27,800
Now that's like a lack of due diligence. And it feels like that that was done as in position to say, well, we know that the natives listened to their elders. So let's just go here. It's another move to win, right?

3656
05:45:27,800 --> 05:45:42,560
that's frustrating. In a situation as sensitive and as divisive as this, you want to take that due diligence and do proper protocols and actually collaborate with everyone in general to make sure.

3657
05:45:44,180 --> 05:45:50,020
There's statements, you know, and I only say this for educational purposes, so I'm not saying this to win.

3658
05:45:50,020 --> 05:45:59,580
But there's statements that it was named after Andrew Kelsey, but according to the Napa County Historical Society as Lake County was previously part of Napa County.

3659
05:46:00,400 --> 05:46:06,560
The entry list that as Napa County's Uncle Sam Mountain quoted after Lake County was established in 1861.

3660
05:46:07,780 --> 05:46:10,220
Uncle Sam was referred to as Kelsey Creek or Kelsey.

3661
05:46:10,500 --> 05:46:19,920
And in 1882, the Uncle Sam Post Office became Kelseyville Post Office reflecting official renaming of the town in memory of Andrew Kelsey on October 4.

3662
05:46:19,920 --> 05:46:26,780
of that year. Uncle Sam precinct is found on the 1892 official map of Lake County as is the Uncle

3663
05:46:26,780 --> 05:46:32,760
Sam school district but by 1907 Uncle Sam school had become Kelseyville Grammar school and the

3664
05:46:32,760 --> 05:46:38,860
name Uncle Sam Mountain was drifted into history. And I also say that his remains were also

3665
05:46:38,860 --> 05:46:45,500
exhumed and buried under this monument. There's also statements that you can't change history yet

3666
05:46:45,500 --> 05:46:50,580
it was changed from Honopati to Uncle Sam, then to Kelseyville.

3667
05:46:51,440 --> 05:46:56,440
So the previous history since time immemorial was already erased as well.

3668
05:46:57,380 --> 05:47:02,780
I'd like to add one more thing because I was misquoted in an article by the media stating

3669
05:47:02,780 --> 05:47:07,220
that I was talking about Native people, which I wasn't. I was talking about the land spanning from

3670
05:47:07,220 --> 05:47:14,400
around Bottle Rock Road area to Elk Mountain all the way to Glen Haven would have been the reservation

3671
05:47:14,400 --> 05:47:18,520
for the Lake County Tribes had the Treaty of Lupe Omia been ratified.

3672
05:47:19,680 --> 05:47:23,720
This area would be a reservation, and the Tribes would be there, so this wouldn't even

3673
05:47:23,720 --> 05:47:28,580
be a topic of discussion, had that been ratified and honored.

3674
05:47:31,340 --> 05:47:36,460
So, I'd like to also note that there was a resolution attached unanimously supported

3675
05:47:36,460 --> 05:47:42,080
by the National Congress of American Indians, which consists of 574 federally recognized tribes

3676
05:47:42,080 --> 05:47:46,800
in the nation to support a name change.

3677
05:47:50,680 --> 05:47:55,160
I don't feel this was a waste of time with the advisory vote or a waste of resources.

3678
05:47:56,040 --> 05:48:01,400
The vote does matter with history and mind when our great grandchildren, great great grandchildren

3679
05:48:01,400 --> 05:48:06,440
look back on the town being named after Andrew Kelsey and wonder why would we do this?

3680
05:48:06,600 --> 05:48:11,960
They'll look back and see where at least I know where I stood in light of many threats,

3681
05:48:11,960 --> 05:48:21,200
ridicule and shame, which, you know, I still value your voice, regardless. I know that it doesn't

3682
05:48:21,200 --> 05:48:29,480
feel like it, but I do. I respect it, and I hold no ill will. This is just the subject that we have,

3683
05:48:29,580 --> 05:48:35,880
and this is an opinion that we have, and it's very close to all of us. At a respect for my colleagues,

3684
05:48:35,880 --> 05:48:44,760
I went with the advisory vote and I struggled with that if you didn't notice I had an opportunity to end this discussion at that time

3685
05:48:46,400 --> 05:48:52,420
So in fact despite the decision today and despite the decision of the board of geographical names

3686
05:48:52,420 --> 05:48:54,320
Will not end here?

3687
05:48:54,480 --> 05:49:02,460
We do not change this the board of geographical names does and then from there where does it go because it's gonna keep going somewhere

3688
05:49:02,460 --> 05:49:05,240
That's why I really like the talk of education

3689
05:49:06,960 --> 05:49:12,600
Lastly, I'd just like to highlight someone that said that I should not vote because I'm native.

3690
05:49:13,840 --> 05:49:16,960
Wow, imagine if all votes were based off of ethnicity.

3691
05:49:19,580 --> 05:49:23,640
So I would like to say that I appreciate your comments.

3692
05:49:24,660 --> 05:49:27,640
Regardless, this is a tough discussion, but it's not going anywhere regardless.

3693
05:49:28,180 --> 05:49:30,240
We are going to have to still live amongst each other.

3694
05:49:30,780 --> 05:49:37,200
I don't like that it was arrested upon us, especially it wasn't the tribes who brought it forward.

3695
05:49:37,200 --> 05:49:46,900
And I likened this to a situation where someone tossed a rock, and it's like we've got to get on board now, right?

3696
05:49:47,520 --> 05:49:52,920
Because naturally someone who's being feels that they're being threatened when it comes to the Kelseyville name, they're going to fight back.

3697
05:49:52,980 --> 05:49:54,560
They're going to say I want to keep this name.

3698
05:49:55,040 --> 05:49:57,760
And I think that's why it's laid dormant for so long.

3699
05:49:59,620 --> 05:49:59,960
So I think...

3700
05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:06,920
That's what frustrates me, but at the same time, I know that there was an intent to do good and to try and do something moral.

3701
05:50:07,240 --> 05:50:15,740
And so I don't want to make the folks that tried to do this feel like they're bad for doing it. I know that was an attempt to do right.

3702
05:50:17,300 --> 05:50:28,280
So, I'm just going to say that I'm in favor of option two, and that's the only one I'll be going for voting for.

3703
05:50:30,040 --> 05:50:31,440
Thank you very much, Vice Chair.

3704
05:50:32,340 --> 05:50:33,080
Supervisor Simon.

3705
05:50:34,160 --> 05:50:36,140
Yeah, appreciate everybody's comments today.

3706
05:50:36,200 --> 05:50:37,560
Everybody knows where I stand.

3707
05:50:38,260 --> 05:50:39,980
Very clearly. I said it at the last meeting.

3708
05:50:40,140 --> 05:50:41,880
I'm very clear about it.

3709
05:50:41,900 --> 05:50:43,660
Change the name, the healing can start.

3710
05:50:43,920 --> 05:50:46,720
A couple of people came up and said, we can't do nothing about it.

3711
05:50:46,920 --> 05:50:48,800
Yeah, he can do something about it.

3712
05:50:49,760 --> 05:50:52,800
You know, from a leadership standpoint, it is tough.

3713
05:50:53,160 --> 05:50:54,780
It wasn't advisory vote.

3714
05:50:55,040 --> 05:50:58,400
I wanted it on record where there's county stood with its native population.

3715
05:50:58,920 --> 05:50:59,760
It's on record now.

3716
05:50:59,760 --> 05:51:10,740
No running away from it. I got what I wanted. I've made that very clear here. And just to let you guys know, we've been working on cultural center for 30 years. I've been a leader of my tribe for that long.

3717
05:51:11,160 --> 05:51:19,280
And we've been working on it. We'll figure it out when we get enough funds to do it. Don't worry. We'll have one of the best in the world. And we're working on it, you know, as nations.

3718
05:51:20,640 --> 05:51:27,100
This isn't going away. Whether you think you win or you lose one side or the other here, the education is started.

3719
05:51:27,100 --> 05:51:32,300
People have stood in the room and said, I did not know what this vote meant or who we are voting for.

3720
05:51:32,660 --> 05:51:33,840
The education is started.

3721
05:51:34,740 --> 05:51:38,580
Town of Kelseyville name will change before they put me back in the earth.

3722
05:51:38,900 --> 05:51:40,000
I'll guarantee that.

3723
05:51:40,220 --> 05:51:42,300
I wanted this to be a national focus.

3724
05:51:42,800 --> 05:51:45,340
I wanted us to understand and work together.

3725
05:51:45,740 --> 05:51:48,880
You've never heard me say, I wanted the name Kanoctai.

3726
05:51:48,940 --> 05:51:50,160
I haven't ever said that.

3727
05:51:50,320 --> 05:51:51,700
That's what came before us.

3728
05:51:51,860 --> 05:51:54,540
I think you guys have built a brand name in Kelseyville.

3729
05:51:55,040 --> 05:52:01,160
Paraville I think would be better than Kelseyville. I think that the scully packing that family that is done

3730
05:52:01,160 --> 05:52:03,220
positive things there

3731
05:52:03,220 --> 05:52:11,340
You wouldn't have to change your name marker your business. You know, if Kelseyville lumber that's the name you want to have you can have that name

3732
05:52:11,340 --> 05:52:15,100
You know, I've heard you made that statement a couple of times. I walk through those doors

3733
05:52:15,100 --> 05:52:20,520
You know, we do business together. None of this stuff is a personal attack on anybody

3734
05:52:20,520 --> 05:52:24,100
But my beliefs and my people were murdered and massacred.

3735
05:52:24,600 --> 05:52:31,200
The first governor of this state paid $1 million for the heads and the bodies of native

3736
05:52:31,200 --> 05:52:31,880
people.

3737
05:52:32,280 --> 05:52:37,460
Just to continue on with the taking of our land and to put us where we needed to be.

3738
05:52:37,620 --> 05:52:38,480
But we're still here.

3739
05:52:38,980 --> 05:52:44,260
I was the first native elected almost 100 years after we were even able to vote or

3740
05:52:44,260 --> 05:52:46,860
consider people not animals and dogs.

3741
05:52:46,860 --> 05:52:50,560
And so, proudly this county has come forward.

3742
05:52:51,080 --> 05:52:55,360
30% people voted right now and that advisory thing to help us move forward.

3743
05:52:55,720 --> 05:52:57,140
And that's a positive step.

3744
05:52:57,560 --> 05:52:58,860
The education is started.

3745
05:52:59,520 --> 05:53:00,840
Air is no turning it off.

3746
05:53:01,200 --> 05:53:03,480
You're going to be able to stand on one side of the other.

3747
05:53:04,220 --> 05:53:06,440
It may, we may vote positively.

3748
05:53:06,840 --> 05:53:09,460
I don't know how it's going to turn out today, but you know I'm voting.

3749
05:53:10,040 --> 05:53:10,780
Change the name.

3750
05:53:11,020 --> 05:53:11,660
Bottom line.

3751
05:53:12,920 --> 05:53:15,080
From the beginning of this,

3752
05:53:15,080 --> 05:53:19,240
I'm sorry for the position that it's put some of these folks in because it's a tough one.

3753
05:53:19,500 --> 05:53:20,240
It is.

3754
05:53:20,500 --> 05:53:25,540
And when you have hatred thrown at you and you have slurs and you have get over whatever,

3755
05:53:26,020 --> 05:53:31,300
you know, to have those kind of things that shock you, it's what we live with every day,

3756
05:53:31,320 --> 05:53:32,020
every day.

3757
05:53:32,060 --> 05:53:36,020
When I leave this room today, if you think I'm not going to be, you know,

3758
05:53:36,200 --> 05:53:38,800
louted for saying what I say, I always am.

3759
05:53:39,200 --> 05:53:43,600
But I try to be up front, try to have conversations, I've had proud conversations

3760
05:53:43,600 --> 05:53:48,020
for people say, I completely disagree with you, but you're up front and you let me know where

3761
05:53:48,020 --> 05:53:48,440
you stand.

3762
05:53:49,080 --> 05:53:53,860
So, and I've heard off this diocese before I was a board member, I heard a member on this

3763
05:53:53,860 --> 05:53:58,160
diocese right here when I was here asking for something for business, say it isn't the job

3764
05:53:58,160 --> 05:54:00,420
of this board to take care of the Indians in this county.

3765
05:54:00,940 --> 05:54:03,480
Well, we got damn changed that, didn't we?

3766
05:54:03,980 --> 05:54:05,260
And yes, that's a cussword.

3767
05:54:05,260 --> 05:54:11,740
I apologize that it's there, but people do use foul language, not only here, heck, they fight

3768
05:54:11,740 --> 05:54:15,880
the U.S. Senate, right? They try to punch each other, push you. That's not what we're doing.

3769
05:54:16,680 --> 05:54:20,460
We're going to come together as a community, whether people want to or not, we're never going to

3770
05:54:20,460 --> 05:54:26,320
agree on everything. But as the chairman said from Big Valley, we ain't going to where they tried to

3771
05:54:26,320 --> 05:54:33,460
kill us, rape us, murder us, take our land, burn us out, destroy all of our vegetation and say the

3772
05:54:33,460 --> 05:54:40,340
first agricultural here was great. No, the first agricultural here was Manzanita Berry's acorn. They hit

3773
05:54:40,340 --> 05:54:43,840
Those were here before any of this stuff started.

3774
05:54:44,440 --> 05:54:45,840
I am always who I am.

3775
05:54:46,020 --> 05:54:47,280
I appreciate everybody.

3776
05:54:47,780 --> 05:54:49,520
I respect you if there's a disaster.

3777
05:54:50,320 --> 05:54:53,160
Our people will always be there to help the community as we do.

3778
05:54:53,460 --> 05:54:55,700
I myself will be there to help the community as I do.

3779
05:54:55,980 --> 05:54:58,520
And many friends and family I stand or friends

3780
05:54:58,520 --> 05:54:59,980
that are on the different side of this.

3781
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:29,980
Subject, that doesn't affect the people that I've known all my lives. So you guys know how I want it voted. We're going to come down to a vote today. And then it's not going to stop there. Even if we got the vote today, as this board of a majority, to change the name, there's a new board coming in at the beginning of the year. That very well could be brought back by the new board. So I'm in no, you know, fanny single end that whatever happens today. It's over with. If you look at the history of this, the SQU

3782
05:55:29,980 --> 05:55:35,200
name was changed, but then the Board of Supervisors down there in Fresno turned around and

3783
05:55:35,200 --> 05:55:36,740
didn't want to honor that change.

3784
05:55:37,240 --> 05:55:38,840
That's conversation is still going on.

3785
05:55:38,880 --> 05:55:44,260
So I am no fool on how this stuff works and no one else should be fooled by that either.

3786
05:55:44,680 --> 05:55:48,460
But if we're going to come together, I think we got a chance to do it after all these meetings

3787
05:55:48,460 --> 05:55:50,740
and what has happened in that advisory boat.

3788
05:55:50,920 --> 05:55:54,700
I heard some people that were staunch about no change in names, we're going to be talking

3789
05:55:54,700 --> 05:55:55,320
about it.

3790
05:55:55,440 --> 05:55:59,160
So if you think the tribes are going to take that opportunity over the next decade to work

3791
05:55:59,160 --> 05:56:04,720
this or the next 20 years till it's changed it's going to get changed because we ain't going anywhere.

3792
05:56:05,120 --> 05:56:10,600
It's that simple. So thank you guys very much. I appreciate it. And yeah, I don't

3793
05:56:10,600 --> 05:56:14,640
avoid Kelseyville. I love what Kelseyville does up there but let's get a different name on that.

3794
05:56:14,900 --> 05:56:19,180
And I got to use Kelseyville right now because that's what it's called. I'd rather call it a different name

3795
05:56:19,180 --> 05:56:25,740
but we're not there yet. So we'll continue working on it. So that's what I have to say. You guys know

3796
05:56:25,740 --> 05:56:31,220
stand. Let's get the vote done. And I said it when the advisory I just wanted on record.

3797
05:56:32,020 --> 05:56:36,600
So when we have a discussion I will know exactly where we're standing and the work that I got to

3798
05:56:36,600 --> 05:56:41,900
do as a person to get things changed in this county. And I think I've done a pretty good job.

3799
05:56:42,300 --> 05:56:46,960
We have done a pretty good job and the constituents have done a good job. You got two native people

3800
05:56:46,960 --> 05:56:51,800
setting on this board. Something to be proud of. But only one in the state's history

3801
05:56:51,800 --> 05:56:58,160
That late county has that that's a pretty God darn good thing as far as I'm concerned so anyway

3802
05:56:58,160 --> 05:57:00,940
That's all I got to say. Thank you for your time

3803
05:57:02,400 --> 05:57:04,340
Thank you for your comments

3804
05:57:05,240 --> 05:57:06,360
Supervisor Green

3805
05:57:09,210 --> 05:57:10,910
some tough acts to follow

3806
05:57:11,950 --> 05:57:17,610
Some apologizing advance for my very boring comments, but when I'm looking at the BGN process

3807
05:57:17,610 --> 05:57:20,410
It helps to read the directions from time to time and

3808
05:57:20,410 --> 05:57:32,890
and so I did that. I've gone through their principles policies and procedures quite a bit and they're applicable to the comments I've heard here today, pro and con.

3809
05:57:33,810 --> 05:57:44,970
So the general result of the advisory ballot measure, strong preference to keep the name, in the BGM principles, there's a strong preference to keep existing names.

3810
05:57:44,970 --> 05:57:50,890
Whether they're good people or bad people, it's not really called out in there, but if there's a historical name in there,

3811
05:57:51,310 --> 05:57:55,750
the underlying principle that the board of geographic names is to let sleep and dogs lie.

3812
05:57:55,850 --> 05:57:58,990
That's probably not the best way to put it.

3813
05:57:59,630 --> 05:58:04,850
But in that context, just to give some credence to what's been spoken here today,

3814
05:58:05,170 --> 05:58:09,730
Kelseyville is an existing place name that is widely published and used in legal documents.

3815
05:58:09,730 --> 05:58:14,670
substantial evidence exists that the place name derives from the settlement of Andrew

3816
05:58:14,670 --> 05:58:18,530
Kelsey and Charles Stone and has historical significance.

3817
05:58:19,210 --> 05:58:23,990
President Day usage and local preference as established by measure you and other public

3818
05:58:23,990 --> 05:58:29,250
input from July and before are sufficient in and of themselves to establish

3819
05:58:29,250 --> 05:58:35,950
Kelceville of deserving of strong consideration by BGN to leave the name in place.

3820
05:58:35,950 --> 05:58:42,170
That said, that underlying principle has several other rules and regulations and policy

3821
05:58:42,170 --> 05:58:49,890
for the geographic names uses to establish when a compelling reason might exist to change

3822
05:58:49,890 --> 05:58:50,610
a name.

3823
05:58:51,850 --> 05:58:59,670
And the petition that citizens for healing filed is best classified as one under BTN's terms,

3824
05:59:00,230 --> 05:59:05,810
a petition made to eliminate particular name problems as in proposals involving names asserted

3825
05:59:05,810 --> 05:59:07,750
be derogatory or offensive.

3826
05:59:08,550 --> 05:59:10,890
And on the short form list of the BGN,

3827
05:59:11,250 --> 05:59:13,530
the Kelseyville petition is described as one

3828
05:59:13,530 --> 05:59:16,210
made to change name considered offensive.

3829
05:59:16,830 --> 05:59:17,610
Four words.

3830
05:59:19,170 --> 05:59:22,510
Very quickly, there's another policy in BGN involving

3831
05:59:22,510 --> 05:59:23,710
commemorative names.

3832
05:59:23,990 --> 05:59:27,010
So although I want to acknowledge that there's a strong preference

3833
05:59:27,010 --> 05:59:30,230
for a historical name, there's no evidence that's been presented

3834
05:59:30,230 --> 05:59:33,990
to this body that I'm aware of that the naming of Kelseyville

3835
05:59:33,990 --> 05:59:41,370
is a personal commemorative name that some family members came up later and said let's do

3836
05:59:41,370 --> 05:59:46,990
this sounds more like an accidental legacy thing that the post office eventually picked up

3837
05:59:46,990 --> 05:59:52,770
if I heard right from my colleague. So I just want to mention that commemorative name policy

3838
05:59:52,770 --> 05:59:57,830
because I don't think it applies to Kelseyville. I don't think there was any commemoration intentionally

3839
05:59:58,490 --> 05:59:59,830
granted of on-nester Kelsey.

3840
06:00:00,270 --> 06:00:14,930
And I also think that just for BGN's thing, I don't think BGN should by default uphold names that commemorate white settlers of European heritage without any consideration of the areas earliest indigenous residents.

3841
06:00:15,650 --> 06:00:26,890
The widespread practice of applying personal commemorative names to geographic features should be acknowledged by BGN as antithetical to the preservation of native place names.

3842
06:00:26,890 --> 06:00:33,890
And this policy in particular should not be applied during BGN's consideration of the petition regarding Kelseyville.

3843
06:00:34,830 --> 06:00:39,690
Here's the most important policy in those guidelines, derogatory and offensive names.

3844
06:00:40,230 --> 06:00:46,530
This policy allows BGN to consider on a case-by-case basis, whether a place name is derogatory or offensive.

3845
06:00:46,530 --> 06:00:57,370
And on this subject, it's game set match, our tribal nations have stood up consistently over

3846
06:00:57,370 --> 06:01:03,710
many years, not just in hearing of this, about the injustices done, not just in Kelseyville,

3847
06:01:03,830 --> 06:01:09,550
what is now called Kelseyville by Andrew Kelsey and Charlestone, but by generations of settlers

3848
06:01:09,550 --> 06:01:16,210
that came in after that and set up camp on what used to be tribal lands and subdivided them

3849
06:01:16,210 --> 06:01:21,650
and turned them into a little euro centric part of Europe such that we are looser and we are

3850
06:01:21,650 --> 06:01:27,210
niece and we are the clearly highlands and the only distinction between that and Kelseyville

3851
06:01:27,210 --> 06:01:32,950
is those European place names are not named after a murderous thug like Andrew Kelsey.

3852
06:01:36,170 --> 06:01:36,970
So this policy

3853
06:01:36,970 --> 06:01:39,010
is where the rubber meets the road.

3854
06:01:39,430 --> 06:01:44,870
This policy clarifies that BGN will not approve any name that just determined to be offensive

3855
06:01:44,870 --> 06:01:48,430
to a particular racial or ethnic group.

3856
06:01:48,910 --> 06:01:54,050
Kelseyville is offensive to our Native American, brothers, sisters, and ancestors.

3857
06:01:54,990 --> 06:01:59,970
And if you haven't had the opportunity in your own lives, whether you've lived here all

3858
06:01:59,970 --> 06:02:06,390
your life or whether you're just coming to Lake County, if you have a process that, Kelseyville

3859
06:02:06,390 --> 06:02:13,070
is an offensive name to Native Americans and to a small plurality of Lake County residents

3860
06:02:13,070 --> 06:02:20,050
who are not Native American, based by the 30% plurality in the measure U-Bove.

3861
06:02:21,630 --> 06:02:23,970
Tribal geographic names cannot die as one.

3862
06:02:24,110 --> 06:02:24,890
There are others.

3863
06:02:25,070 --> 06:02:28,870
I also appreciate the comments about, you know what, if we'd had a little more time, we

3864
06:02:28,870 --> 06:02:34,870
might have worked on this and would have appreciated the opportunity to work together on this

3865
06:02:34,870 --> 06:02:38,390
and had the ability to vet it, not just with our seven

3866
06:02:38,390 --> 06:02:41,090
sovereign nations, but with the other community members who

3867
06:02:41,090 --> 06:02:42,690
are going to inherit this name.

3868
06:02:45,070 --> 06:02:47,490
So you've got to play the hand you're dealt.

3869
06:02:48,090 --> 06:02:49,290
And so the petition happened.

3870
06:02:49,430 --> 06:02:51,470
There was some level of tribal consultation.

3871
06:02:53,030 --> 06:02:55,270
And the proposed and deemed change to Knotty

3872
06:02:55,270 --> 06:02:57,890
does meet all of the BGN-stated criteria.

3873
06:02:58,690 --> 06:03:01,730
Knotty is a dominant topographic feature of the kill

3874
06:03:01,730 --> 06:03:09,270
area and much of Lake County and the mountain itself looms large in geological, historical, and cultural context.

3875
06:03:10,590 --> 06:03:13,770
Finally, I want to point out that this is not going to be the last thing.

3876
06:03:14,050 --> 06:03:20,150
Public input is still open at BGN EXEC at USGS.gov.

3877
06:03:20,230 --> 06:03:25,370
I confirm that yesterday and all the principles, policies and procedures, I'm talking about

3878
06:03:25,370 --> 06:03:31,130
are available on the USGS website under the Board of Geographic names and if you haven't had

3879
06:03:31,130 --> 06:03:36,030
opportunity to read them, I encourage you to do that now. So I want to put that in context

3880
06:03:36,030 --> 06:03:40,130
of the advisory ballot measure because the Board of Geographic Names didn't say go out

3881
06:03:40,130 --> 06:03:47,030
into a ballot measure and we'll honor that. Their open-ended procedure is together and present

3882
06:03:47,030 --> 06:03:53,470
all relevant information needed for their board to render its decision. Their procedure expressly

3883
06:03:53,470 --> 06:03:58,770
calls for consultation with the Board of Supervisors and it further allows for tribal

3884
06:03:58,770 --> 06:04:04,590
consultation. The procedure does not describe how or whether the results of local ballot

3885
06:04:04,590 --> 06:04:10,030
measures pertaining to proposed name changes should be considered in federal proceedings.

3886
06:04:11,450 --> 06:04:18,590
So I know that's kind of a lot to process after a long day, but some people have said

3887
06:04:18,590 --> 06:04:28,750
this is such a mysterious process. It really isn't. The general principle is we don't change

3888
06:04:28,750 --> 06:04:32,310
be ample compelling reasons, plural, and this point.

3889
06:04:33,050 --> 06:04:37,830
And one reason why we would think about doing it now versus later, or 300 years from

3890
06:04:37,830 --> 06:04:42,130
now, is look at the argument we're having over this.

3891
06:04:42,290 --> 06:04:44,790
We don't even agree what Kelseyville is.

3892
06:04:45,370 --> 06:04:51,550
Is it the small census designated place of about 3,300 people, the town people themselves,

3893
06:04:52,010 --> 06:04:58,070
but the thing I most associate with Kelseyville, is that the larger county census division,

3894
06:04:58,070 --> 06:04:59,890
or the Kelseyville planner.

3895
06:05:00,000 --> 06:05:11,900
In the general plan, is it to Kelsea Bill unified school district boundary or Kelsea Bill fire protection district, or is it even larger zip code area of 9, 5, 4, 5, 1.

3896
06:05:12,200 --> 06:05:25,200
The murderous name of Kelsea has expanded over the years by inaction and just the assumption that the whole region now is named after Mr. Kelsea, not just the small little settlement.

3897
06:05:26,700 --> 06:05:39,760
And we have to be upfront in addressing not just the racial discrimination of years passed against American Indians.

3898
06:05:40,420 --> 06:05:46,760
I always down at the Library on Saturday, I was trying to figure out that monument at the end of Main Street,

3899
06:05:46,760 --> 06:05:49,980
how that came to be and what role the county had in it.

3900
06:05:50,160 --> 06:05:52,360
And unfortunately I couldn't find any information.

3901
06:05:52,700 --> 06:05:57,000
Apparently we did have a role and I just couldn't figure out exactly what.

3902
06:05:57,000 --> 06:06:00,740
Um, and that money match just speaks me in a hundred different ways.

3903
06:06:00,780 --> 06:06:01,980
It's like berries of lead.

3904
06:06:02,160 --> 06:06:03,820
It's like, here's the first Adobe settlement.

3905
06:06:04,180 --> 06:06:08,480
Oh, by the way, it was built with slave labor and by the way, the guys that did it are buried

3906
06:06:08,480 --> 06:06:09,000
here.

3907
06:06:09,600 --> 06:06:12,700
I don't know of any other historical money, but it does that.

3908
06:06:13,160 --> 06:06:16,360
And it's, it's wrong.

3909
06:06:16,900 --> 06:06:21,200
But as I'm going through the newspaper, it used to be the Lake County Bee before it was

3910
06:06:21,200 --> 06:06:22,140
the record Bee.

3911
06:06:22,540 --> 06:06:28,320
I find other things in there like, uh, on A1 news, oh, we're going to have a minced

3912
06:06:28,320 --> 06:06:32,300
show, put on by the odd fellows, and they're going to have it at the Kelseyville High School

3913
06:06:32,300 --> 06:06:41,420
gym. Like, oh, that was a different time. Rotary phones were coming to Lakeport, 1950. It's hard

3914
06:06:41,420 --> 06:06:49,800
to process. You can't change history, but you sure can be selective in your remembrance of it.

3915
06:06:50,560 --> 06:06:56,820
And if you learn history, like I learned history in high school, you got no education on Native Americans,

3916
06:06:56,820 --> 06:07:02,000
My high school, Fresno High School, three years ago went through its little mascot change drama.

3917
06:07:02,820 --> 06:07:06,560
And then I go to my high school reunion, and there's still so mad about it.

3918
06:07:06,720 --> 06:07:09,320
And I never even heard about it until after the fact.

3919
06:07:09,480 --> 06:07:17,880
So my sense of outrage or lack thereof is muted by proximity by the blessings of distance and time.

3920
06:07:19,040 --> 06:07:21,980
So although this is very in your face and all that right now,

3921
06:07:21,980 --> 06:07:28,980
I hope that the good people of Killsville and they are good people understand that if they

3922
06:07:28,980 --> 06:07:33,500
don't know which way the wind is blow and they're going to know after today.

3923
06:07:34,020 --> 06:07:39,640
I am sensitive to Mr. Porcosani's comments and others that we need time to process.

3924
06:07:40,180 --> 06:07:48,100
So if I were going to offer any type of friendly amendment to option 2, it would be to definitely

3925
06:07:48,100 --> 06:07:54,340
We recommend that the name change, the name Kelseyville has got to go by by, but my understanding

3926
06:07:54,340 --> 06:07:58,660
of this process is next stop is going to be the California Advisory Committee on

3927
06:07:58,660 --> 06:08:03,900
Geographic Names, our state government also has an Office of Tribal Affairs.

3928
06:08:05,000 --> 06:08:10,180
It'd be nice to kind of circle back and do some listening sessions to have some dialogue

3929
06:08:10,800 --> 06:08:14,960
before making a recommendation on the actual name change cannot die.

3930
06:08:14,960 --> 06:08:17,540
That said, if there's consensus to go ahead with that,

3931
06:08:17,720 --> 06:08:19,260
I'll certainly support that.

3932
06:08:20,100 --> 06:08:23,620
But if I were to craft something,

3933
06:08:28,360 --> 06:08:31,060
it would be option to

3934
06:08:31,060 --> 06:08:35,740
with the recommendation to refer the proposed name change

3935
06:08:35,740 --> 06:08:40,680
to CACGN and their state partners before bringing it back

3936
06:08:40,680 --> 06:08:42,100
to BGN for consideration.

3937
06:08:43,380 --> 06:08:45,740
But I'm not going to burden this discussion

3938
06:08:45,740 --> 06:08:53,340
with that form of the motion right now, but as to the core issue, do I support the name change

3939
06:08:53,340 --> 06:09:02,160
as the petition with BGM currently requests? Yes, I do. And I'm open to any number of any

3940
06:09:02,160 --> 06:09:06,600
number of discussions about whether we're locking cannot buy. And one reason I would do that is

3941
06:09:06,600 --> 06:09:12,520
it is possible that we future discussions will kind of soften hearts and minds. I think today's

3942
06:09:13,380 --> 06:09:22,080
It is the temperature is much different than it was at the end of July, and I want to thank you all because I can see that you're working on this.

3943
06:09:22,420 --> 06:09:29,600
And I can't sit up here saying, like, oh, I'm just the arbitrary moral justice here because two years ago, you know,

3944
06:09:30,520 --> 06:09:36,560
we talked about like, oh, it's just our opinions. We have to respect the opinions of the people. Well, we also have to protect the people.

3945
06:09:36,560 --> 06:09:47,880
We have to provide for the public safety, health safety and welfare of all our residents, all our residents and on top of that we have to represent the county government itself.

3946
06:09:48,500 --> 06:09:50,560
We have to maintain good tribal relations.

3947
06:09:51,120 --> 06:09:59,960
We don't have the luxury of just blowing things off and future collaboration on any note.

3948
06:10:00,000 --> 06:10:08,000
A number of environmental projects, building projects, cultural building projects relies on a common shared vision.

3949
06:10:08,940 --> 06:10:14,040
We couldn't even get a land acknowledgement. You know, it's going to think about that and then they blew it up at the school districts.

3950
06:10:14,280 --> 06:10:18,400
So God forbid, we bring an land acknowledgement. I was hoping we could acknowledge it today.

3951
06:10:19,080 --> 06:10:27,220
We are on ancestral lands of criminal peoples. So I've kind of rambled now, but there is some method to my madness.

3952
06:10:27,220 --> 06:10:32,040
I am very sympathetic. If I'm off the board in three weeks, if you want to sit there and talk

3953
06:10:32,040 --> 06:10:38,240
about SEO and some Knot-Vibrance, I will help too. I've done some web development, some marketing,

3954
06:10:38,440 --> 06:10:43,960
and all that. I do think there are some challenges ahead, and one reason buying a little bit

3955
06:10:43,960 --> 06:10:50,280
of time with the state agencies to kind of vet the final name may provide some advantage is you may

3956
06:10:50,280 --> 06:10:54,860
want to talk about some of those marketing things before we lock in that name. But I do agree that

3957
06:10:54,860 --> 06:10:59,620
not that is a great name, still has a K,

3958
06:10:59,800 --> 06:11:02,560
pretty easy for now, and so from a marketing perspective,

3959
06:11:03,900 --> 06:11:06,600
it speaks a lot about proceeding with that name today.

3960
06:11:07,500 --> 06:11:10,260
So with that, I will shut up.

3961
06:11:15,240 --> 06:11:16,140
Supervisor Payska.

3962
06:11:25,040 --> 06:11:30,160
When we first got the letter from the BGN last winter,

3963
06:11:30,380 --> 06:11:32,700
we started having conversations with the BGN

3964
06:11:32,700 --> 06:11:40,660
in the Kagan. And my first question to them was, if you're going to do this, if a name were to

3965
06:11:40,660 --> 06:11:45,860
change, what would implementation look like, where would the resources be?

3966
06:11:48,920 --> 06:11:50,640
And we also submitted

3967
06:11:50,640 --> 06:11:55,640
several questions to ask what the process would be like so that we could have clarity so

3968
06:11:55,640 --> 06:11:59,800
everyone could understand. So there would be public information.

3969
06:12:02,730 --> 06:12:03,890
And I think that's one of the

3970
06:12:03,890 --> 06:12:08,690
failures as they never showed up to do that to support us in that way. I feel like this process

3971
06:12:10,030 --> 06:12:18,570
was dropped on us, dropped in my lap, as the elected supervisor for this district. I've made my position very, very clear.

3972
06:12:20,050 --> 06:12:26,230
I respect to my colleagues. It's not something that is a voter. I would have to abstain from because we do not know

3973
06:12:26,770 --> 06:12:28,390
still what's going to happen.

3974
06:12:28,390 --> 06:12:47,570
And you can question my leadership all you want, but I have sat with everyone who wanted to sit with me throughout this last year and I have truly listened to everyone and I honoured everything that everyone has shared with me.

3975
06:12:51,450 --> 06:12:55,130
Well, I do thank you for your vote. You don't have to do it again next time.

3976
06:13:00,300 --> 06:13:06,580
But I have also really seen productive conversations happen.

3977
06:13:11,130 --> 06:13:16,890
I've seen people really try and learn.

3978
06:13:17,110 --> 06:13:19,110
They may not have changed their vote.

3979
06:13:20,190 --> 06:13:22,890
But they're in a different place than they were last year.

3980
06:13:23,110 --> 06:13:24,830
I think all of us are in a different place last year.

3981
06:13:24,990 --> 06:13:27,910
And so this is not the end.

3982
06:13:27,910 --> 06:13:29,870
This is, I feel like this is a beginning,

3983
06:13:36,240 --> 06:13:37,560
and I'm

3984
06:13:40,280 --> 06:13:41,340
going to keep showing up.

3985
06:13:42,920 --> 06:13:47,440
I'm going to show up tomorrow at Big Valley when they celebrate, when you celebrate

3986
06:13:47,440 --> 06:13:53,120
your opening, and I'm going to keep showing gratitude for all the work that Tribal Health

3987
06:13:53,120 --> 06:13:58,760
does and all the money that they invest in our communities, because we are all in this

3988
06:13:58,760 --> 06:14:02,500
region together, and we have seven tribal nations.

3989
06:14:02,500 --> 06:14:06,940
we have our county government, we have our city governments, and we are in this isolated region

3990
06:14:06,940 --> 06:14:19,280
where we all need to work together, live together, and be together, and so the conversations

3991
06:14:19,280 --> 06:14:25,260
that I had directly with the BGN, I told them, you will not ever get a recommendation from

3992
06:14:25,260 --> 06:14:31,020
me, because I have to support my community, however the chips falling, whatever happens,

3993
06:14:33,920 --> 06:14:34,060
and

3994
06:14:34,060 --> 06:14:37,000
And that's what I'm committed, and I'm committed to that work.

3995
06:14:37,840 --> 06:14:42,100
And I know that it takes a long time to build that trust, and having those conversations

3996
06:14:42,100 --> 06:14:45,740
with each of you this year, we made steps building that trust.

3997
06:14:45,920 --> 06:14:48,900
And I'm committed to continuing that.

3998
06:14:50,260 --> 06:14:57,380
But I can't make a recommendation, that's I committed to you all.

3999
06:14:57,380 --> 06:14:59,430
I gave you my word and and that's

4000
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:01,240
Where are my promises?

4001
06:15:07,430 --> 06:15:09,170
Thank you.

4002
06:15:09,750 --> 06:15:11,670
So I spoke earlier.

4003
06:15:14,580 --> 06:15:18,400
My position is still the same. I would love to see.

4004
06:15:19,980 --> 06:15:26,400
I'll find an option to the original option A and B provided to us from

4005
06:15:28,580 --> 06:15:29,940
the BGN.

4006
06:15:30,300 --> 06:15:34,180
Sitting here and having to choose one over another is

4007
06:15:34,180 --> 06:15:40,040
need to choose what's best for the future of this community and what's best for this community

4008
06:15:40,040 --> 06:15:43,740
and it's something I wholeheartedly believe in is

4009
06:15:45,820 --> 06:15:47,780
that we have a system that allows us

4010
06:15:47,780 --> 06:15:55,860
to solve problems and if that solves if that system loses the public trust that we have no

4011
06:15:55,860 --> 06:16:01,560
system to be able to utilize this all problems and I'm going to continue to do what I do personally

4012
06:16:01,560 --> 06:16:09,330
to continue to make change. But today, if option two is on the table, then I cannot say yes.

4013
06:16:12,150 --> 06:16:14,870
And with that, I'm looking for action.

4014
06:16:16,030 --> 06:16:21,610
I just have something to say. So I can't I'm staying with our reason. So I can't support that option,

4015
06:16:21,810 --> 06:16:29,010
but I just want to be honest with all of you. Why my vote would have to be no if that is option two.

4016
06:16:29,010 --> 06:16:34,150
But I would ask my colleagues to please include devoted people in that.

4017
06:16:34,270 --> 06:16:42,110
Say, this is what the people have said in the measure, and this is what the board is voting for.

4018
06:16:42,490 --> 06:16:47,130
So that at least we're delivering what the people are saying also.

4019
06:16:56,380 --> 06:16:58,880
It's not an option to specifically.

4020
06:16:58,960 --> 06:17:01,380
It's not specifically in there.

4021
06:17:02,600 --> 06:17:04,100
So if we need to tweak the language.

4022
06:17:05,920 --> 06:17:07,300
It's in there, what do you mean?

4023
06:17:07,480 --> 06:17:08,380
You know, we're supposed to say that they're not.

4024
06:17:08,500 --> 06:17:12,940
President Major, Lake County, residence demonstrated their opposition to the proposed

4025
06:17:12,940 --> 06:17:13,320
danger.

4026
06:17:13,660 --> 06:17:14,980
Does it straight up?

4027
06:17:16,720 --> 06:17:16,800
Yeah.

4028
06:17:20,100 --> 06:17:21,500
You want to add the percentages?

4029
06:17:22,680 --> 06:17:22,880
I don't know.

4030
06:17:23,020 --> 06:17:24,340
I'm good with that.

4031
06:17:24,340 --> 06:17:26,400
Glad to print that and send it out.

4032
06:17:31,430 --> 06:17:31,710
If I,

4033
06:17:34,000 --> 06:17:37,320
yeah, we can even add the word clear because that was in another variation.

4034
06:17:37,660 --> 06:17:41,240
There's clear opposition and advisory and measure you, but, um,

4035
06:17:46,480 --> 06:17:47,660
oh, yeah, well, we'll

4036
06:17:47,660 --> 06:17:55,180
results for sure. But some of you raised questions about the ballot arguments being fraudulent

4037
06:17:55,180 --> 06:18:00,920
and all that. I just want to hide out because I'm going to get worried if we move ahead we're

4038
06:18:00,920 --> 06:18:06,120
going to get hammered. So the wording of a ballot question is a really hard way to try to solve

4039
06:18:06,120 --> 06:18:15,020
a complicated social issue. So having gone through the BGN process and explained it, the proper

4040
06:18:15,020 --> 06:18:19,880
question whether it would be legal or not in the form of a ballot argument, it wouldn't

4041
06:18:21,180 --> 06:18:26,320
be a coin toss because that's what the ballot question was, which do you like better,

4042
06:18:26,440 --> 06:18:33,440
Kelsaville or Kanakdai, and it's a coin toss, that's not what B. Jann was asking us. The proper

4043
06:18:33,440 --> 06:18:38,940
question, if we opposed it to the voters, if you had to change the name, or if you at least

4044
06:18:38,940 --> 06:18:44,980
acknowledge that name is offensive to our Native American partners here would

4045
06:18:44,980 --> 06:18:50,640
cannot die be an acceptable replacement. And that's a different question, right?

4046
06:18:50,880 --> 06:18:55,520
You may not agree with the idea that the name should change or ever will change, but if the

4047
06:18:55,520 --> 06:19:02,280
name did have to change, would cannot die be okay. And how would that election have gone?

4048
06:19:03,080 --> 06:19:08,200
Because it's because one, it forces consideration like, oh, why would we change the name

4049
06:19:08,200 --> 06:19:12,220
And we never got that far and the ballot measure was placed out there.

4050
06:19:12,860 --> 06:19:14,420
So, again, I think it was informative.

4051
06:19:15,000 --> 06:19:19,280
I think it was demonstrated, not just support from tribal communities,

4052
06:19:19,600 --> 06:19:23,580
but again, a plurality of 30 percent that's well above the demographic

4053
06:19:24,480 --> 06:19:27,380
representation of Native Americans in our community.

4054
06:19:28,480 --> 06:19:30,460
So, I just wanted to clarify that.

4055
06:19:30,880 --> 06:19:33,480
Yes, there was a advisory measure.

4056
06:19:33,800 --> 06:19:36,080
Yes, we're going to give them the vote totals.

4057
06:19:36,080 --> 06:19:43,300
But I don't necessarily take it as gospel because one, it wasn't binding upon us, certainly not binding on the federal government.

4058
06:19:43,920 --> 06:19:46,980
But most importantly, I don't know for a fact that we asked the right question.

4059
06:19:48,080 --> 06:19:49,760
So, just wanted to point that up.

4060
06:19:54,730 --> 06:19:55,450
Looking for action.

4061
06:19:59,380 --> 06:19:59,960
All right, just want to leave.

4062
06:20:00,000 --> 06:20:05,420
Sure, get it right, Lloyd. It's a two actions here, but I think we only need one, right?

4063
06:20:06,120 --> 06:20:14,460
Well, each action item A and B A refers to the letter, and B refers to BGN standard recommendation forms.

4064
06:20:14,800 --> 06:20:18,360
So this suggestion here would be to each on separate motion.

4065
06:20:25,260 --> 06:20:27,900
So I want to move to

4066
06:20:30,460 --> 06:20:34,260
approve option two with the suggestion change.

4067
06:20:34,260 --> 06:20:40,480
It sounded like there was a majority, at least three wanted to add in that measure you and put the number of the percentages in there.

4068
06:20:44,830 --> 06:20:45,390
So...

4069
06:20:45,390 --> 06:20:46,090
It's...

4070
06:20:50,030 --> 06:20:52,430
There's no public comment at this moment in time.

4071
06:20:52,590 --> 06:21:01,310
Option two with the changes that were offered in order to have the percentages of the election results placed on there.

4072
06:21:01,370 --> 06:21:02,550
Yep, that's my motion.

4073
06:21:02,550 --> 06:21:17,190
And Mr. Chair, if I may have members of the board, if I may, just as a general included in that motion motion or approval, a motion to approve that letter as outlined by your board with the changes or additions.

4074
06:21:17,510 --> 06:21:19,370
A small motion, so moved.

4075
06:21:19,430 --> 06:21:19,610
Second.

4076
06:21:20,590 --> 06:21:22,510
We have a motion in a second. All in favor?

4077
06:21:23,190 --> 06:21:23,370
Aye.

4078
06:21:23,630 --> 06:21:24,390
Any opposed?

4079
06:21:25,010 --> 06:21:25,050
Aye.

4080
06:21:26,790 --> 06:21:27,250
Part B.

4081
06:21:28,770 --> 06:21:29,270
Part B.

4082
06:21:29,270 --> 06:21:35,230
I move to modify is needed and approve the BGN standard recommendation form.

4083
06:21:35,230 --> 06:21:35,690
Second.

4084
06:21:36,590 --> 06:21:37,350
And if I may.

4085
06:21:37,570 --> 06:21:37,910
Please.

4086
06:21:38,590 --> 06:21:38,630
Thank you.

4087
06:21:39,090 --> 06:21:49,090
So the BGN form itself references the attached letter, so that would also, and just for

4088
06:21:49,090 --> 06:21:55,650
purposes of confirming for this item B motion, it would be the motion to approve the geographic

4089
06:21:55,650 --> 06:22:04,230
named proposal recommendation as modified and as reflected by the letter outlined or identified

4090
06:22:04,230 --> 06:22:06,950
in the first motion that was approved.

4091
06:22:07,430 --> 06:22:08,310
So moved.

4092
06:22:08,330 --> 06:22:08,690
Second.

4093
06:22:09,290 --> 06:22:10,450
We have a motion in a second.

4094
06:22:10,650 --> 06:22:11,390
All in favor?

4095
06:22:11,630 --> 06:22:12,150
All right.

4096
06:22:12,350 --> 06:22:12,990
Any opposed?

4097
06:22:13,510 --> 06:22:13,870
Nay.

4098
06:22:14,930 --> 06:22:15,450
Motion carries.

4099
06:22:16,870 --> 06:22:23,210
Thank you, everybody, for coming here and expressing yourselves and thank you.

4100
06:22:23,210 --> 06:22:24,170
We're

4101
06:22:28,840 --> 06:22:33,080
going to take a five minute break and reconvene at 422.

4102
06:35:43,180 --> 06:35:58,540
We're back and I believe that we have gone through every single one of our open session items other than concluding our weekly calendars, and we will continue, because we've already done supervisor Greens calendar. We'll continue with supervisor signing.

4103
06:36:07,950 --> 06:36:15,190
It's not over, it's not over, it's not over, so LTA APC tomorrow in Lakeport, but I do plan on

4104
06:36:15,190 --> 06:36:19,930
getting out to the groundbreaking and opening of the Big Valley Convenient Store.

4105
06:36:20,590 --> 06:36:25,270
I want to make sure I'm there, could not make it when they did the groundbreaking, but I'm

4106
06:36:25,270 --> 06:36:29,530
going to be there when they open up, you know, just because of my responsibilities.

4107
06:36:30,530 --> 06:36:37,170
So have that, and then I will be traveling out of town, I do have, I will make the call on Friday

4108
06:36:37,170 --> 06:36:43,790
for the meeting next week, I'll call in, but I'll be traveling a little bit, and then Monday

4109
06:36:45,010 --> 06:36:54,410
have the risk reduction authority. Our last, my last meeting as the chair, but obviously

4110
06:36:54,410 --> 06:37:00,010
as you guys know, our tribe, we have join the RA, we'll be a continued member of that board

4111
06:37:00,010 --> 06:37:06,110
for sure, because the great work that's being done here in Lake County. So, and then back here,

4112
06:37:06,110 --> 06:37:09,710
On Tuesday, to be chaired by Michael Green.

4113
06:37:11,130 --> 06:37:11,650
Nice.

4114
06:37:11,810 --> 06:37:12,310
That is good.

4115
06:37:14,070 --> 06:37:15,030
Supervisor Paiska.

4116
06:37:17,250 --> 06:37:20,970
Yep, tomorrow I plan on being at the Bay Valley Grand Opening.

4117
06:37:21,750 --> 06:37:27,010
Even though I also have my Naco EEL, you mean at the same time, so I make that choice,

4118
06:37:27,290 --> 06:37:29,790
but I really like to be there in Bay Valley.

4119
06:37:30,610 --> 06:37:36,430
Then I got to go to Yuccaia for the NCO board meeting and the BVAC meeting in the evening.

4120
06:37:37,610 --> 06:37:50,690
And then Thursday, morning, fire safe counsel, I'm gonna have a lunch with Anita, and then

4121
06:37:50,690 --> 06:38:00,030
NCO is doing a new tribal engagement committee that we're trying to figure out, so that

4122
06:38:00,030 --> 06:38:08,690
the same time as the quarterly OPR check-in. So I probably have to miss that. And then Friday,

4123
06:38:09,190 --> 06:38:14,550
I'm going to go to Sacramento for the wildfire and forest resilience task force.

4124
06:38:16,980 --> 06:38:16,980
Okay,

4125
06:38:17,140 --> 06:38:20,700
I'm like calendar and froze. I was again.

4126
06:38:23,130 --> 06:38:28,050
I know I have the Saturday. There is an NOA

4127
06:38:28,050 --> 06:38:35,650
weather-spotter program that I'm going to do at the Cobb Fire Station. I want to

4128
06:38:35,650 --> 06:38:45,410
clock and then Monday, I have my mini-missial parker and then there's a new, I just

4129
06:38:45,410 --> 06:38:54,040
found out about it yesterday, another crew coming to the geysers, some engineers or

4130
06:38:54,040 --> 06:39:03,000
So I don't know Daniel said she'll come to Cobb and video me there, so that's all I know and then RRA and after noon and back here on Tuesday

4131
06:39:03,720 --> 06:39:08,040
Thank you, Vice-Chic Randall. Yeah, so just real quick yesterday

4132
06:39:08,040 --> 06:39:10,320
We had the central region town hall meeting

4133
06:39:10,960 --> 06:39:16,160
Maria thank you for coming to the meeting and talking about the lay packs and

4134
06:39:16,160 --> 06:39:18,820
And giving that presentation it really helped the community

4135
06:39:19,700 --> 06:39:23,940
There's a couple more people than normal there and just it was really a productive

4136
06:39:24,360 --> 06:39:31,020
So I just wanted to thank her for that and and also for a certain, you know, being, you know,

4137
06:39:31,360 --> 06:39:35,860
willing to talk about it. They had like two items on the agenda, but they already covered the first one. It was really cool.

4138
06:39:37,740 --> 06:39:42,440
The first one being the presentation. They just kind of voted and they're like, yeah, we're doing it. So there's really good.

4139
06:39:44,100 --> 06:39:49,880
Well, I'm supposed to go to Sacramento tomorrow for the RCRC meeting last one of the year.

4140
06:39:50,880 --> 06:39:54,180
They're going to vote for a couple of positions here and there.

4141
06:39:55,440 --> 06:39:58,120
I'm, we'll stay probably with the executive.

4142
06:39:58,680 --> 06:39:59,920
I mean, I'm still on the executive.

4143
06:40:00,000 --> 06:40:17,020
Committee, but there might be a couple others. So, if I am on either the Golden State Finance, which is a conglomerate of RCRC, or if the Golden State National Resources, probably maneuver around, because I don't want to be on more and more and then drop the ball and other things.

4144
06:40:17,760 --> 06:40:27,340
So, just letting you know that that may be, and I'll let you know after tomorrow, what, especially next week, what position I would be in, but not running for the big leadership position.

4145
06:40:28,060 --> 06:40:30,740
that's not something I'm looking forward to on that.

4146
06:40:30,920 --> 06:40:35,140
So anyhow, there's a meeting in Lucerne with the Senior Center.

4147
06:40:35,620 --> 06:40:40,620
I think that's tentative, but if not, I'd also do have a meeting with someone on the Mac there,

4148
06:40:40,720 --> 06:40:41,060
a citizen.

4149
06:40:41,560 --> 06:40:47,400
Friday, I'm going to meet with a supervisor like Owen, like we just touched base in the hallway

4150
06:40:47,400 --> 06:40:48,500
to make sure.

4151
06:40:48,980 --> 06:40:53,800
And then Saturday, the joy-ma-deros toy drive is happening here in Lakeport, so I'll be going

4152
06:40:53,800 --> 06:41:01,620
that Monday, CIO meeting in the morning and then the Blue Ribbon Committee and Clear Lake and

4153
06:41:01,620 --> 06:41:02,800
then back here on Tuesday.

4154
06:41:04,340 --> 06:41:04,900
Thank you very much.

4155
06:41:05,100 --> 06:41:06,120
One is that RCRC.

4156
06:41:06,120 --> 06:41:06,300
I know.

4157
06:41:06,420 --> 06:41:07,920
There's a dinner in the evening as well.

4158
06:41:07,920 --> 06:41:08,920
But that's next month.

4159
06:41:09,280 --> 06:41:09,740
That's next month.

4160
06:41:10,240 --> 06:41:18,180
That's one they'll seat whoever wins and then they invite like some dignitaries from like I think

4161
06:41:18,180 --> 06:41:23,060
Cecilia I'm a career at one time elected as like the RCRC person or you know what I mean?

4162
06:41:23,060 --> 06:41:28,680
give them an award for their support. That's in January. So I'll let you know that next month

4163
06:41:28,680 --> 06:41:31,700
because the, well, the calendar has been passed. I think it's the third week in January.

4164
06:41:32,180 --> 06:41:36,680
Yeah. Now, somebody over at C.S. I kind of sent an invitation over for me.

4165
06:41:38,160 --> 06:41:41,800
And I know I can't make the meeting during the day, but it's part of it. I can make the dinner

4166
06:41:41,800 --> 06:41:49,580
in the evenings. So I'll check in with you. This week, I wanted to mention, I mentioned it last time

4167
06:41:49,580 --> 06:41:54,960
that I was meeting with our social services director, be able to help director, and our Chief

4168
06:41:54,960 --> 06:41:58,240
Public Defender regarding eviction prevention.

4169
06:41:58,840 --> 06:42:04,000
We're going to continue that meeting in 30 days to review some potential ways that continuum

4170
06:42:04,000 --> 06:42:11,160
of care can help fund some prevention and see if that can work out for us.

4171
06:42:11,200 --> 06:42:16,900
And if so, then we'll seek to try and embed that into the next year's budget and seeing

4172
06:42:16,900 --> 06:42:24,000
how that can work but continuing the conversation everyone seemed very interested in seeing what

4173
06:42:24,000 --> 06:42:30,320
we can do to prevent folks from ending up being homeless. I'll quickly go over our

4174
06:42:30,320 --> 06:42:37,980
my next days of meetings LTAAPC with Supervisor Simon. First five lakes, special meeting

4175
06:42:37,980 --> 06:42:44,120
is happening also later on that afternoon with a supervisor green and I will be attending

4176
06:42:44,120 --> 06:42:50,640
the chamber mixer that's happening with a joint chamber on Thursday starting off with

4177
06:42:50,640 --> 06:42:56,280
their judges, breakfast, continue with care committee count. We are doing our pit count,

4178
06:42:56,660 --> 06:43:03,900
believe it's January 25th, but let me just double check that, sorry, 23rd, and so anticipate

4179
06:43:03,900 --> 06:43:09,380
getting a new update on what our homelessness count is at that point in time.

4180
06:43:10,800 --> 06:43:21,240
I am meeting with some faith leadership in the city of Clear Lake who are interested in doing some work related to homelessness.

4181
06:43:22,340 --> 06:43:38,320
It's been a bit of a struggle to get the participation that we're looking for, but we're also trying to take baby steps in order to create comfort and not feel like we're trying to utilize services and utilize space.

4182
06:43:38,320 --> 06:43:41,240
that really is someone else's space.

4183
06:43:41,680 --> 06:43:44,200
And so we need to just break those barriers

4184
06:43:44,200 --> 06:43:46,380
and continue those discussions.

4185
06:43:47,260 --> 06:43:48,860
Jay Murdoch from Adventist Health

4186
06:43:48,860 --> 06:43:50,920
is working on some of those things.

4187
06:43:51,480 --> 06:43:52,840
And he's doing a fabulous job

4188
06:43:52,840 --> 06:43:54,860
and we're making those baby steps.

4189
06:43:55,880 --> 06:43:59,560
I am meeting on Friday and I need to speak with

4190
06:43:59,560 --> 06:44:02,640
CAO Parker about this with YCCB.

4191
06:44:02,940 --> 06:44:04,240
You've a community college district

4192
06:44:04,240 --> 06:44:06,600
with our returning to us with some ideas

4193
06:44:06,600 --> 06:44:10,380
of pipeline programs to help fill some of our vacancies.

4194
06:44:11,320 --> 06:44:16,140
So I'll be speaking to CAO Parker to see if it's possible to get some HR representation

4195
06:44:16,840 --> 06:44:18,460
to take part in that meeting.

4196
06:44:19,500 --> 06:44:25,180
Then Food Policy Council is also going to be that evening or late afternoon.

4197
06:44:26,200 --> 06:44:32,980
On Monday at this moment in time, I just have a meeting with CAO Parker and then returning

4198
06:44:32,980 --> 06:44:35,300
here on the 17th for the last meeting of the year.

4199
06:44:35,300 --> 06:44:41,280
And with that I forgot two things we do I don't say I'm going to get yelled at here. So the

4200
06:44:41,280 --> 06:44:47,900
14th there are two events potential you have the briefs across America event that's going on in December

4201
06:44:48,420 --> 06:44:59,220
You know what a lot of the cemeteries around the county that that celebration will happen Saturday morning and then on Saturday night is Christmas and middle town 48

4202
06:45:05,420 --> 06:45:30,280
All right, perfect. With that, that concludes our open session agenda items, we will be going into closed session. We have three items, 8.1 public employee evaluation, social services director, 8.2 conference with legal counsel, existing litigation, pursuing the government code, session 54956.91, Center for Biological Diversity, a towel versus County of Lake, a towel, 8.3 conference with legal counsel, a significant amount of time.

4203
06:45:30,280 --> 06:45:37,020
exposure to litigation pursuant to government code session 54956.9 B2 and E1 one potential

4204
06:45:37,020 --> 06:45:40,980
case and with that we are going into close session. Thank you for joining us today.