1 00:00:03,890 --> 00:00:15,790 Fifth, this is also, start again. Good morning. Like to officially call to order the Board of Supervisors meeting. Also, the Marine County Flood Control and Water Conservation District and the Marine County Open Space Conservation District. 2 00:00:16,130 --> 00:00:21,910 It's Tuesday, August 25th. Our meeting is called to order, would you all please rise and join us for the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:22,770 pledge 4 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:31,420 allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for 5 00:00:31,420 --> 00:00:38,120 which it stands, one nation, undergone, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:00:41,890 --> 00:00:43,270 Would the clerk, please call the roll? 7 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:46,490 So, provide the molten Peter's here. 8 00:00:46,870 --> 00:00:47,850 So, provide the Colbert. 9 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:48,130 Here. 10 00:00:48,550 --> 00:00:51,410 So, provide the Second. 11 00:00:53,190 --> 00:00:53,430 Here. 12 00:00:54,190 --> 00:00:55,290 We are all present. 13 00:00:55,730 --> 00:00:56,270 Thank you. 14 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:58,290 I'm going to suggest for today. 15 00:00:58,290 --> 00:01:03,750 that we reordered make a slight reorder to the agenda and actually start with Board of Supervisors 16 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:09,030 matters and informational updates and the county executives report after which we'll take 17 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:14,490 public comment. As we move into the Board of Supervisors matters, I'm going to just open briefly 18 00:01:14,490 --> 00:01:19,470 with a common statement on behalf of the Board of Supervisors and then we're going to go to our 19 00:01:19,470 --> 00:01:24,650 county executive and hear from some other county employees, community leaders and co-man. 20 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:32,410 As many of you know last week, we gathered to honor Chief Marlon Washington and reflect on the extraordinary impact he had on this county. 21 00:01:33,210 --> 00:01:38,770 I speak for the entire board in thanking the Washington family, friends, and colleagues in the probation department, 22 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:46,970 the county staff who spoke and attended a beautiful moment, which celebrated a life dedicated to family, to community, and to service. 23 00:01:46,970 --> 00:01:51,890 Following many speakers in the chambers on online who spoke of Chief Washington's legacy 24 00:01:51,890 --> 00:01:58,110 and impact, we were confronted with deeply hateful language that had no place in that moment 25 00:01:58,110 --> 00:01:59,170 or in our community. 26 00:02:00,070 --> 00:02:05,250 But these comments were targeted, and it's important that we call it what it is, anti-black, 27 00:02:05,770 --> 00:02:10,890 and it was specifically directed towards our black leaders, employees, and the broader community. 28 00:02:10,890 --> 00:02:17,590 What happened was painful, offensive, and completely at odds with who we are as a community. 29 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:21,410 We also know that this incident didn't occur in isolation. 30 00:02:22,230 --> 00:02:27,030 Across the country, there's a growing pattern of individuals using public forums and remote access 31 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:31,750 to spread hate, provoke fear, and disrupt the work of our local government. 32 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:37,690 Here in Marin, we will do everything we can to deny anti-blackness the power it seeks. 33 00:02:37,690 --> 00:02:43,570 We will not allow it to intimidate our community or silence the participation in our public spaces. 34 00:02:44,590 --> 00:02:50,250 And what we saw last week in the county and the community's response gave us great confidence in that. 35 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:56,950 I saw a board, county staff, community members who responded with solidarity, care and resolve. 36 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:59,210 We know the work is not finished. 37 00:02:59,650 --> 00:03:06,590 We will keep working to build a community where every person feels respected, valued, and a true sense of belonging. 38 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:11,590 With that, I'd like to turn it over to our county executive, Derek Johnson, for his report, 39 00:03:11,730 --> 00:03:16,530 and then we will also be hearing from Komea, some county employees and community leaders 40 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:17,110 on this. 41 00:03:17,150 --> 00:03:17,810 County executive. 42 00:03:18,530 --> 00:03:18,990 Great. 43 00:03:19,450 --> 00:03:21,390 Thank you, President Luke, and members of the board. 44 00:03:21,710 --> 00:03:28,030 I just want to echo your comments this morning that last year, last week, during the meeting, 45 00:03:28,210 --> 00:03:34,730 we did have an individual who was participating remotely, who used racist anti-black and 46 00:03:34,730 --> 00:03:39,830 deeply offensive language during public comment on the ceremonial resolution. 47 00:03:40,610 --> 00:03:43,570 I just wanted to just give a little peek behind the scenes, 48 00:03:43,770 --> 00:03:46,770 and the work that was done by our team, 49 00:03:47,290 --> 00:03:49,390 and through your leadership and through the boards leadership, 50 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:52,350 those comments were immediately stopped and condemned. 51 00:03:52,830 --> 00:03:55,630 Since that meeting, there has been some thoughtful discussion 52 00:03:55,630 --> 00:03:59,910 about the county's response, including how we should address public recording 53 00:03:59,910 --> 00:04:00,750 of what occurred. 54 00:04:00,750 --> 00:04:12,010 After constructive and at times, very vigorous internal conversations with team members who brought a variety of different perspectives, we came back with an important distinction. 55 00:04:12,770 --> 00:04:16,710 There is a difference between amplifying hate and documenting what had occurred. 56 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:21,450 Preserving an accurate record allows us to confront what happened honestly. 57 00:04:22,430 --> 00:04:30,190 Removing it could have the unintended effect of sanitizing the moment, minimizing the harm that occurred or obscuring the reality that 58 00:04:30,190 --> 00:04:36,750 racism is still present in our community. Last week was an unfortunate and painful reminder 59 00:04:36,750 --> 00:04:44,650 that racism, hatred, anti-black speech, intimidation and dehumanizing language have no place in 60 00:04:44,650 --> 00:04:50,230 our public meetings, our workplace or in our community. It is also a reminder that while progress 61 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:57,030 has been made, there is still so much work to do. I want to thank the board and the county staff 62 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:59,170 who have responded to the incident with click. 63 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:21,380 Relarity, conviction and care, and I'm especially grateful for the way our team using this difficult moment, not to not simply react, but to listen to one another, challenge one another, and think seriously about the long-term way that our organization can continue to confront racism and inequities. 64 00:05:21,380 --> 00:05:27,660 We can not always prevent hateful acts from occurring, but we are clear about who we are, what 65 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:29,540 we stand for, and how we respond. 66 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:31,700 Yeah. 67 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:36,200 With that, I'd like to invite up the team from a command, the county employees, and community 68 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,240 leaders, as an extension of this update. 69 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:52,100 Good morning, Board. 70 00:05:52,940 --> 00:05:53,740 Good morning, Derek. 71 00:05:53,740 --> 00:06:05,440 who's also the CEO. My name is Robin Darin and I am a county employee but also a leader in 72 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Komea. I was online last week and I have a few words that response to what you all have just shared. 73 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:21,750 But first I want to address my dear Black community. 74 00:06:24,570 --> 00:06:27,110 I want to address you first because I want to 75 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:36,900 center, how last week's hateful and cowardly words impacted, not just you, but all of us who carry 76 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:42,860 this history together. Maybe you were at last week's meeting for work, have wonderful 77 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:49,640 clerk employees over here. Maybe you are here as family of our brother, chief Marlon Washington. 78 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:56,340 Maybe you were a community member representing your community. Whatever role you had, 79 00:06:56,340 --> 00:07:06,360 I know that when anti-blackness entered that room, you felt something, the people who love you and who love black bodies felt something too. 80 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,480 I wish we were gathering under different circumstances and yet here we are. 81 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:22,720 I want to say plainly, you are beautiful. You are beautiful. You are beautiful. 82 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:25,860 Black bodies are beautiful. 83 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:33,240 I know last week brought up a lot of feelings for some of you, which, for some, was ancestral. 84 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:46,620 And I blackness is a pain long endured, not just by our generation, but by our parents, our grandparents, and those before them, and many more. 85 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:55,000 To say, it doesn't affect you would be a lie, it doesn't consume you, but it is pain on the 86 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,400 less. 87 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,920 And for that, I agree with you. 88 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,520 I want to be clear about something. 89 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,380 There are many forms of hatred, many isms that cause harm in this world. 90 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,580 All of them deserve to be named and confronted. 91 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:16,200 But the word that was used last week was not generic hate. 92 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:34,960 It was anti-black, it was chosen specifically to harm people who looked like me, to reach back through centuries of hatefulness, and to try and make it hurt all over again. 93 00:08:35,820 --> 00:08:38,060 I will not soften that truth. 94 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,960 And I will not let it be folded into a general category of hate. 95 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:47,420 That erases who it was aimed at. 96 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:52,300 I also want to name this, it was cowardly. 97 00:08:54,740 --> 00:08:58,360 To call someone names period is cowardly. 98 00:08:59,220 --> 00:09:04,660 But it is especially cowardly to do it anonymously 99 00:09:04,660 --> 00:09:14,400 to hide behind a screen and a fake name and still try to strip someone of their dignity. 100 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 That person knew exactly what they were doing. 101 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:27,980 They knew that to say that, hey, we're about a person who has left this earth unexpectedly with his parents, 102 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:36,360 His wife, his brother, and his daughter in the room, they wanted to inflict the most amount of pain. 103 00:09:40,930 --> 00:09:47,090 If they believe what they said was righteous, then they should have said it with their face showing. 104 00:09:48,590 --> 00:09:50,590 They should have said it to our faces. 105 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:58,090 They should have said it with their name attached, and they should have said it with their chest. 106 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:15,020 The fact that this person did not is not a sign of conviction. That is not a sign of strength. That is cowardness and hate wearing a mask. 107 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:23,470 The fact that this happened just reminded me of 108 00:10:23,470 --> 00:10:32,170 Thinking about my engine moves on, answering back, did you want to see me broken, 109 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:40,750 bowed head and lower dyes, shoulders falling down my tear drops, weakened by my soulful cries, 110 00:10:42,210 --> 00:10:51,540 but still like air, I'll rise, and still like air we rise. I think of my 111 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:59,320 and her wonderfulness of Black Beauty and Black Resilience that refuses to be diminished 112 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:07,640 no matter how many times the world tries. That spirit lives in this realm today. It lives in our 113 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,420 county. It lives in our departments. It lives in our communities. 114 00:11:19,850 --> 00:11:22,110 It lives in the spirit of chief 115 00:11:22,110 --> 00:11:27,950 Washington and his legacy and the way he mentored young people, the way he showed up for our 116 00:11:27,950 --> 00:11:35,430 community again and again, the way he led with compassion instead of fear and it lives in every one 117 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:43,830 of you all. To my non-black community, I want to say thank you for those who checked in with your black 118 00:11:43,830 --> 00:11:51,750 colleagues, your friends and your community members this week. That mattered more than you may know 119 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:59,420 I also want to speak to those who felt like they didn't know what to say or what to do. 120 00:12:00,780 --> 00:12:02,500 Silence is violence. 121 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,020 And showing up doesn't have to be perfect. 122 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:09,620 What I ask of you today is to embrace being imperfect. 123 00:12:11,060 --> 00:12:12,560 And to show up anyway. 124 00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:17,200 In ways that feel deep and meaningful, even when it's uncomfortable, 125 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,120 even when you're afraid of getting it wrong. 126 00:12:22,650 --> 00:12:23,450 To this board. 127 00:12:23,450 --> 00:12:30,870 I want to say thank you for condemning what happened for acting quickly, for calling me as I'm 128 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:39,710 clicking night. I appreciate that. But I say to you this clearly, the statement is a first step. 129 00:12:41,690 --> 00:12:50,470 Words, the words spoken in this room today cannot be where this ends. So I'm asking you directly 130 00:12:51,530 --> 00:13:00,490 what comes after this? What are you all going to do both individually and as a board to address 131 00:13:00,490 --> 00:13:07,450 anti-blackness and marine county? Not just in your communities but also in our employees. 132 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:22,950 I ask that you put more resources to racial equity positions in this county so that this work does not depend on 133 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:38,290 I also asked the UMVess in counting white training so that employees in every community member knows how to address anti-blackness in this community and how to respond to it with courage instead of avoidance. 134 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:45,830 So that someday people will feel ashamed to use that word ever in public or in private. 135 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:56,880 We will remember this day not for the words spoken in this room before what this board 136 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:03,860 does in the weeks to follow. This in the asks for the counting to match his values with 137 00:14:03,860 --> 00:14:08,780 this budget, it's policy and it's followed through. Hate tried to still a moment that 138 00:14:08,780 --> 00:14:15,080 belonged to Chief Washington and his family and those who loved him. It did not succeed. 139 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:26,000 We are still here, we are still rising, and we will keep showing up from one another, honestly and in perfectly together. 140 00:14:27,740 --> 00:14:36,920 And if you feel that to sing, I want to sing a verse from a song during the times of resistance against anti-blackness during my mother's generation. 141 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,760 We shall overcome. 142 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,020 We shall overcome. 143 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,760 We shall overcome. 144 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,150 Thank you so much. 145 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,660 President Lincoln, board members, and our county executive. I'm 146 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:37,840 Ray Mona Little Taylor, Assistant Director of Marine County Free Library, and a proud member of 147 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:45,320 Maya. I'm also a District 2 resident. I stand before you today because of the strength, power, 148 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:52,920 resilience, and faith in my ancestors, including my parents, Ruby and Raymond El Shabaz, my grandparents, 149 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:58,240 Ruby and Willie Woods, Margaret Bernie and Willie Little, and my great-grandparents, Willie 150 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,680 May, William Allen, Jim, and Jesse. 151 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,180 After start by stating that the racial slur that was used last 152 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:09,660 week. Again, Chief Washington was reprehensible, 153 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,360 a poor ant and a form of hate speech. 154 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,780 Chief Washington's legacy cannot be tarnished, 155 00:16:17,140 --> 00:16:18,220 will not be tarnished, 156 00:16:18,860 --> 00:16:22,060 but Chief shots hurled through the cloak of anonymity 157 00:16:22,060 --> 00:16:26,520 and voice altering software. He lived by the epic values 158 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,360 that he led in his department. 159 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,580 Excellence, professionalism, integrity, and community. 160 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:34,760 that is as legacy. 161 00:16:36,850 --> 00:16:43,110 But where do we go from here? We cannot hide or ignore or hide from the ugly 162 00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:49,610 truth that racism and hate have been allowed to thrive and grow and spread like weeds, like 163 00:16:49,610 --> 00:16:58,630 a disease. Where do we go from here? We have to identify the cause so we can treat it. We 164 00:16:58,630 --> 00:17:01,530 have to name it what it is, which is anti-blackness. 165 00:17:03,050 --> 00:17:05,690 Throughout history, that particular racial slur 166 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:07,910 has been used as a weapon, and it's 167 00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:09,270 been used against black people. 168 00:17:10,510 --> 00:17:14,050 The racial slurs, the symptom, anti-blackness, is the cause. 169 00:17:15,370 --> 00:17:16,330 Where do we go from here? 170 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:20,810 We have to recommit to the cause of being anti-racist. 171 00:17:21,870 --> 00:17:23,030 Where do we go from here? 172 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:25,690 We have to invest in the board's priority 173 00:17:25,690 --> 00:17:28,070 of building racially equitable communities 174 00:17:28,070 --> 00:17:31,690 and investments in supporting work that advances racial equity. 175 00:17:32,490 --> 00:17:40,550 The race counts report on racial disparities in California notes that across all indicators, education, income, healthcare, 176 00:17:41,470 --> 00:17:46,710 life outcomes that Marin County's Black residents are the most impacted by racial disparities. 177 00:17:48,430 --> 00:17:49,650 Where do we go from here? 178 00:17:49,650 --> 00:18:00,790 We need more education, more trainings, more capacity building that addresses combating explicit and implicit forms of racism and anti-blackness. 179 00:18:02,050 --> 00:18:03,090 Where do we go from here? 180 00:18:04,430 --> 00:18:11,130 We ask you to listen and respond with tangible actions to address racism and anti-blackness and marine county. 181 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:12,510 Thank you. 182 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:24,210 I'll lower this. Good morning, everyone. Good morning to the board. Good morning to Derek, our county executive. 183 00:18:25,090 --> 00:18:28,070 Komeya, all of our members here, all the community of Marin. 184 00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:35,550 My name is Natalie McCall. I'm, I'm Marin County resident. I grew up in Sicily, though, spent my first 18 years there. 185 00:18:35,550 --> 00:18:44,430 And I have lived in Novato since 2009. Marin County is my home. It's beautiful. I love it. 186 00:18:44,430 --> 00:18:49,770 And I have known, since I was a child, that there is racism here, particularly anti-black racism, 187 00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:55,390 that was clear as a resident of Sossolio with this segregation between Sossolido and Marin City. 188 00:18:55,450 --> 00:18:58,330 I never understood why that wasn't one community growing up. 189 00:19:01,630 --> 00:19:07,470 And when we say there's anti-black racism in Rene County, we're also saying there's white supremacy in Rene County. 190 00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:09,290 They're the same thing. 191 00:19:10,170 --> 00:19:12,810 And that's the part that hasn't been addressed to the white supremacy. 192 00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:26,350 What happened at the board meeting last week was horrible and racist, that person, I believe, has been my notice, they're not what's important here. 193 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:32,870 What's important to me is why they felt comfortable saying that in one of our board meetings here. 194 00:19:33,370 --> 00:19:42,630 And I believe that's because an environment has been created, that is made that person feel comfortable being openly racist and using racial slurs in our meetings. 195 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:59,110 Last September, the county made the decision to lower flags to honor Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was a white supremacist to incited violence against black people and other marginalized communities with his words. 196 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:20,440 To me, that was more helpful than what happened last week, because that wasn't done by a stranger on the Internet that was done by the organization that I work for, that made me feel unsafe, that made me feel uncared for, and I know many of my colleagues felt the same way when they found out about that. 197 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:25,740 And I wonder why that, for the board, 198 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:30,380 for county leadership, why that was different than 199 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:31,080 this situation. 200 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:39,440 Why Charlie Kirk's racism was something that should be honored and, well, racial slurs are 201 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,980 not okay. 202 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:41,500 To me, it's all the same thing. 203 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:44,540 It's all violence, anti-black racism. 204 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,660 My colleagues of in command have asked, you know, what happens next? 205 00:20:52,790 --> 00:21:00,550 What I propose is that the county reflects, and is accountable for the anti-Black 206 00:21:00,550 --> 00:21:06,090 racism that exists, like people said, in our organization, in our departments, in our 207 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:10,450 board meetings everywhere, because it is here, we do see it. 208 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:17,070 And I hope that the board commits funding to it, 209 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:20,890 like Robin proposed, creates a plan for it, 210 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,590 and also creates a system of accountability 211 00:21:24,190 --> 00:21:26,950 so that the community both inside the organization 212 00:21:27,470 --> 00:21:30,190 and in our county knows that it's serious. 213 00:21:31,030 --> 00:21:32,610 I believe that the people of Marin 214 00:21:33,850 --> 00:21:36,530 don't want racism to flourish in our communities. 215 00:21:37,390 --> 00:21:38,190 You know, over five years ago, 216 00:21:38,290 --> 00:21:40,210 I was working for City of Mill Valley 217 00:21:40,210 --> 00:21:45,070 and I led a series of book club groups on racism. 218 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:47,470 We read the book again, again, by Eddie Glowd. 219 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:51,810 And I spoke to almost 100 community members in that town, 220 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:56,190 who were cognizant of the racism in their communities. 221 00:21:56,730 --> 00:21:58,930 About the lies they've been told when they were younger people 222 00:21:58,930 --> 00:22:01,490 in the 70s, about how scary the Black Panthers were. 223 00:22:01,770 --> 00:22:03,190 And that is a civic center history, too. 224 00:22:03,410 --> 00:22:04,890 You know, that's in that existence building, 225 00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:06,230 the history of Angela Davis. 226 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:10,030 So I know that our community members don't want anti-Black 227 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:15,470 our white supremacy to flourish in our communities, but we need a clear path forward, we 228 00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:21,390 funding for it and resources, we need accountability, and we need a system of ethics that 229 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:23,650 we actually stick to. Thank you. 230 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:34,460 This does go up. Yes. Good morning board members. Good morning 231 00:22:34,460 --> 00:22:42,520 County Executive Director. My esteemed colleagues and my fellow community members. My name is Robin 232 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,280 I'm the Learning and Organizational Development Manager here for the county and I'm also one of the co-leads of 233 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,640 prism or LGBTQ if you're an affinity group. 234 00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:57,540 And I stand before you today as an employee of the county of Marin, a resident of the county, 235 00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:07,360 but most importantly as a white person dedicated to interrupting cycles of harm perpetuated by racism and anti-blackness. 236 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:14,260 I also stand here as yet another in the long line of people who was personally impacted by 237 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:19,840 Chief Washington, his presence, his grace, his kindness, and I like many of you stood in 238 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:26,700 this room one week ago in dismay when someone took advantage of a moment of communal vulnerability 239 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:32,260 to denigrate such a beautiful person with hate and vitriol. 240 00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:38,220 Yet unlike many of my fellow white attendees, I was not in shock. 241 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:45,080 You see, we white folks like to move through the world believing that because the most 242 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:51,220 atrocious and obvious forms of anti-blackness aren't in our faces that racism is a thing 243 00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:52,020 of the past. 244 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:59,980 Yet nearly every day, I hear stories from my beloved black friends and colleagues of the 245 00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:09,420 the limital, the covert, the unassuming ways, they are reminded that the belief that they are less than human is alive and well. 246 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,180 I'm not here to speak to the black experience that is not my work that is not my role. 247 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,660 I'm here to speak to the white folks in the room. 248 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,900 It's in moments like these that were confronted with a reality that we work tirelessly to ignore. 249 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:36,680 It takes the most egregious expressions, the most outward displays of hate, the most obvious forms of harm for us to be alarmed. 250 00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:44,400 We clutch our pearls, and we turn to each other with tears in our eyes, but by the end of the week we have moved on. 251 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,720 Because that was an isolated, rogue, one-off experience that does not represent me. 252 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:58,440 We go back to the comfort of our ignorance, we take solace, and our momentary outrage, and we 253 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,720 retreat to our individual. 254 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:07,760 A realistic world view that blocks out a collective reality and in doing so our silence becomes 255 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:14,420 complicity. Our paralysis becomes maintenance and our ignorance sustains the divide between 256 00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:22,100 these versions of the world. You see, as white folks, we think we have to know all the answers. We 257 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:28,100 think we have to do it right, and while we're caught in these beliefs, we fail to even try. 258 00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:33,320 We fail to truly listen with our hearts to the stories of harm. 259 00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:38,300 We fail to understand the experiences of those who are most desperately impacted. 260 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:43,220 We fail to build relationships that build bridges across the divide. 261 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:54,820 At the words of Adrian Marie Brown, perfection is a commitment to perpetual self-doubt, and this is where we live as white people. 262 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:04,160 In a perpetual spiral of self-doubt that distracts us from a liberated future, one that includes our own liberation. 263 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,880 So, I call on every white person who is uncertain of how to move forward, hold this mantle 264 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,480 and do not let it go. 265 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:19,740 Each day ask yourself, what am I doing to stand against anti-blackness, read the books, have 266 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:24,400 the conversations with friends, family, and colleagues, look to our black leaders, they've 267 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,780 been telling us long enough, we must do our work. 268 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:34,820 But do not stand idle, awaiting your turn to rise because it will never come. 269 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:36,260 The moment is now. 270 00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:38,900 It is always now. 271 00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:41,200 To our Marine County leaders, 272 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,540 we have the resources, but do we have the will. 273 00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:53,420 Is Marine County willing to be an example of what it looks like to acknowledge the 274 00:26:53,420 --> 00:26:56,320 wrongs of the past and work to make things right? 275 00:26:58,630 --> 00:27:20,010 If what you heard last Tuesday shocked you to your core, then I urge you to never accept a world in which those we love, respect, honor and support have to endure this pain, that we work tirelessly toward a better future, because as white people, it costs us nothing to stand with our Black siblings. 276 00:27:20,010 --> 00:27:28,390 But our presence, our solidarity, our accomplish ship, our required to continue bending the moral 277 00:27:28,390 --> 00:27:30,670 arc of the universe towards justice. 278 00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:36,430 I'll leave you with these words from Lilawatson and Indigenous 279 00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:44,950 Australian activist speaker who presents an aboriginal understanding. If you have come here 280 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:51,770 to help me. You're wasting my time. But if you have come here because your liberation is bound up 281 00:27:51,770 --> 00:28:01,350 with mine, then let us get to work. My liberation is bound with yours. My liberation is bound with 282 00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:08,050 yours. I stand with you. Will you stand with us? Thank you. 283 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:20,730 Or someone I just think to come 284 00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:23,010 a family, let's give them a round of goals. 285 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,840 I'll come to you as a community leader, I'll come to you as a county employee, senior program 286 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:43,320 coordinator would public works, and I just want to say this, the N-word, everybody understand 287 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,840 and knows the Black experience has American, and I don't, I'm not going to go too much 288 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:57,360 into that but I just want to say this. When an inward inward with you was used towards 289 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:06,220 my culture, that means the black woman were going to get raped. The black man were going 290 00:29:06,220 --> 00:29:13,300 to get lynched, hung, castrated, burned alive. So that was what comes with that inward. 291 00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:20,280 So, when you go back in history, and you saw when the N.W. were used, people were comfortable 292 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,220 to degrade us, call us three-fifths of the human being, now look at all this black experience 293 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:30,700 right here, three-fifths of a human being so we can be enslaved. 294 00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:42,360 So understanding that message and using it against my brother, cheap Washington, that was 295 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:50,540 very despicable. And reason, and I just want to clarify something, when he here, we say, 296 00:29:51,020 --> 00:29:57,500 brother, a sister, that's the highest form of respect. Okay, so... 297 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,220 I'm 298 00:30:06,050 --> 00:30:14,850 going to push to it. Because I just want to thank you, Doug, for reaching out to Kamaya. 299 00:30:17,490 --> 00:30:22,010 And the O.C. team, Paula, I appreciate you. I'll stop 300 00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:27,250 in into the spaces. And this is directed to the president when 301 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:33,090 our HSS former director, Anita McClaren, 302 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:39,590 But through her resolution, she was belittled to me and degraded. 303 00:30:40,270 --> 00:30:45,460 And I challenged the board to not be a bystander. 304 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:52,260 And the President, Mr. President, you stood up and said she would not be a bystander. 305 00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:58,320 And I appreciate you for shutting down that hate speech. 306 00:30:58,820 --> 00:31:02,640 You know, I saw the video and you shut it down. 307 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:15,740 So now, what I want to go into is the same scale of emotions and what that says is the highest 308 00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:23,920 frequency you can have is authentic authenticity and limiting your truth and standard 309 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,860 by your truth and we use the word solidarity. 310 00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:38,800 So, what I'm proposing is creating a system web of solidarity and standing beside us and creating a plan of action. 311 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:49,320 That's going to make sure that these hateful people do not disrupt and make us feel like we're about to be lynched. 312 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:57,300 And how you lent your person into today's society, you restrict them, you take away the resources, 313 00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:04,040 and you make them feel like their marginalization is no hope. So when we're talking about hope and 314 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:11,480 power structures, let's make sure we implement a system web of solidarity that protects us against 315 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:18,460 anti-blackness and promote a culture of understanding. And I want to say this to the rest of the board, 316 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:29,300 It's okay not to have the answers, but just like when we strategically plan, we listen to the feedback from the community, 317 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,060 and we take the data, then we create a structure and we implement. 318 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:49,720 And what we're talking about sustainable solutions and policy that protects us from filling marginalize and making sure that people they're going to use hay speech, living your truth and show your faith. 319 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:58,100 and stand by it. I just want to say thank everybody and I love 320 00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:03,400 working with a county. I raised my kids in the county and I'm a district 321 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,520 three person and I love my district. Thank you. 322 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:24,830 Good morning to the board to our 323 00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:29,250 leadership to everyone in the room and listening online. My name is Jimmy 324 00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:34,550 Jordan, you share pronouns, and I am the director of the Office of Equity, and I would be 325 00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:41,550 remiss to not stand here and to acknowledge the labor that is required of my beautiful colleagues, 326 00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:48,650 who had to give voice, who had to continually stand up, and now who have to clean up the mess that 327 00:33:48,650 --> 00:33:49,810 this is caused. 328 00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:55,060 Tony spoke about our brother. 329 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,820 So I wanted to use my voice today to speak very clearly 330 00:34:00,820 --> 00:34:05,260 that I was deeply impacted and hurt. 331 00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:13,270 And what's so important as we move forward is how do we continue 332 00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:21,250 to resource racial equity work in the county? How do we continue to invest in this work? 333 00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:26,590 So that it is embedded in the DNA of our organization. So regardless of who sits up there at the 334 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:31,670 is that the work continues because it's a black woman. 335 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:34,370 The work always continues for me. 336 00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:36,850 So I appreciate the time today. 337 00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:41,370 And again, I want to just acknowledge the bravery that is required. 338 00:34:42,070 --> 00:34:46,470 And I want to thank my colleagues and my friends who have stood up here today 339 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:50,890 and given voice to all that this is resulted in. 340 00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:52,410 So thank you to the board. 341 00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:55,330 I appreciate you and I look forward to walking alongside you 342 00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:57,730 as we continue to do this important work. Thank you. 343 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:14,020 Thank you, everyone. I want to appreciate all those who spoke from Kameh, our county employees, as an extension of our county executives report here. Thank you all. 344 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:23,660 I think in incidents like this, there is no perfect response, but we need to lean into the imperfect and because the other option is silence. 345 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:30,200 And thank you for for that space as we all kind of continue to lean into this together. 346 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,340 So thank you with that. We are going to go and come back and continue on with Board of Supervisors 347 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Matters. So we'll go to my colleagues and we'll go back to our county executive for the remainder. 348 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,360 Why don't we before we do that? We're going to just take a quick break and we'll be back. 349 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,780 We'll start up again with the county. Sorry, Supervisors Matters in just a couple minutes. 350 00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:56,160 it's about about three five minute break. Thank you. 351 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:32,700 Thank you everyone. 352 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,900 We are returning back. 353 00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:42,780 We're going to continue on with Board of Supervisors reports and the remainder of the county executives report. 354 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,420 Supervisor Sackett, do you want to start? Yes. Thank you, President Luke in. 355 00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:57,200 Just to take a moment to say to Robin to Ramona to Natalie to Robin to Tony, 356 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,740 Jamila and so many others. 357 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:10,460 Who have spoken, reached out and are leading us through and supporting the county organization. 358 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:15,780 Thank you for speaking up for continuing to educate us. 359 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:27,580 And I just will close and same. Thank you to Chief Washington for continuing to and center and guide us through this conversation. 360 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080 additional supervised reports or 361 00:40:38,290 --> 00:40:39,390 supervised redone. 362 00:40:39,930 --> 00:40:40,090 Yeah. 363 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:44,750 Just first of all I want to thank all the speakers this morning. 364 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:49,090 I think it's important me personally to learn and be educated. 365 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:53,350 I have other comments and I have been 366 00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:57,210 asking for more investment in our race equity 367 00:40:57,210 --> 00:41:03,230 and training programs and I think this is a chance for us to double down a little bit on that 368 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:06,030 and really move forward with some more of that work. 369 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:07,790 Obviously, we have more work to do. 370 00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:10,350 But thanks to everyone that spoke this morning, 371 00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:13,910 I was very meaningful and I am sorry that you had to listen 372 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:14,990 to this hate speech. 373 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:20,450 I wanted to give an update this morning on O'Kill. 374 00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:23,870 As you may know, may not know, I service the chair 375 00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:27,510 of the JPA board, and I wanted to make sure 376 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:30,370 that everyone was up to speed on what was going on. 377 00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:32,370 The process has been much slower 378 00:41:32,370 --> 00:41:39,330 than we had hoped. There's been a lot of obstacles along the way. The interest rates have not been 379 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:45,930 favorable. Construction costs have been driven up, and this past weekend I'm fearful that they'll 380 00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:50,370 continue to go up with the absence of the federal government and the Canadian government. 381 00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:56,870 The Oak Hill site is a unique opportunity to provide affordable workforce housing for public 382 00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:59,030 school and county workers. 383 00:41:59,610 --> 00:42:02,830 The JPA remains committed to two fundamental principles. 384 00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:07,150 We will not move forward without a clean site, 385 00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:10,070 and we will not move forward without a balanced budget. 386 00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:13,510 The current workforce housing financing plan 387 00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:16,730 is facing challenges to the delays 388 00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:18,990 in environmental mitigation work, 389 00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:21,570 and due to the later construction costs, 390 00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:24,590 our updated performer currently shows 391 00:42:24,590 --> 00:42:31,990 an increase of $10.6 million in the construction cost, resulting in a potential funding gap of 392 00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:39,010 $12.5 million. These are preliminary numbers and there's still work to do before we know 393 00:42:39,010 --> 00:42:46,870 the final cost and the funding gap. But we have moved forward on our next steps. The first step 394 00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:54,570 is refined to project budget and over the next few weeks we will continue to drill down on the 395 00:42:54,570 --> 00:43:00,250 working with this contractor to refine costs, identifying savings through value engineering, 396 00:43:01,070 --> 00:43:06,790 and we anticipate the gap to be reduced as we work through these details. There's also 397 00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:13,950 a dual evaluation process going on, including an afternoon affordable house housing pathway. 398 00:43:14,590 --> 00:43:21,550 At the same time, as we evaluate our JPA workforce housing project, education housing partners, 399 00:43:21,550 --> 00:43:29,690 the HP is evaluating an alternate affordable housing approach that would preserve pursue a more 400 00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:38,010 traditional housing project using low-income tax credits and that financing. Similar to the 401 00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:43,430 Eden project that's already happening at O'Kill. This would provide another path to affordable 402 00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:50,750 housing on the site if the current workforce housing financing model cannot be balanced. I will continue 403 00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:56,630 provide updates on Oak Hill to the board as we know more. I don't view the current financing 404 00:43:56,630 --> 00:44:03,090 challenge as the end is affordable housing opportunity at Oak Hill. We are pursuing both paths 405 00:44:03,090 --> 00:44:10,130 so that we can determine the most financially viable way to afford affordable housing on this site. 406 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:20,730 Again, repeating there will be affordable housing built on that site. It just matters what kind of 407 00:44:22,070 --> 00:44:28,370 MCOE with some state funding, and in kind support it spent a little over $294,000. 408 00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:32,290 That's of an investment in the future housing there. 409 00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:35,650 It's $2,200 per door that we've invested today. 410 00:44:36,050 --> 00:44:42,270 That's a pretty good investment if we end up with 135 units of affordable housing in conjunction 411 00:44:42,270 --> 00:44:46,510 with the 115 units of Eden affordable housing on that site. 412 00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:53,350 250 units will meet and not a lot to our housing element needs, so thank you, and that's my report. 413 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:55,690 Thank you, supervisor Colbert. 414 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:58,980 Yeah, thank you. 415 00:45:00,050 --> 00:45:11,430 I want to echo my colleagues and direct comments. What happened last week with deeply disturbing, and I would like to thank everyone who came and spoke from Komiya. 416 00:45:12,430 --> 00:45:16,090 With that, I want to turn to the work ahead and give one quick update. 417 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:23,310 We're taking thoughtful and intentional steps to prepare for the winner. We are staffing up and investing in the equipment we need. 418 00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:29,130 And making sure we're ready for the potential impacts of an e-new and we're in a storm weather. 419 00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:36,130 I want to especially thank County D.P.W. and my colleagues on the board for their coordination and assistance in this. 420 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:40,770 We can't control it when it rains, but we can control how prepared we are. 421 00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:42,710 And that's it. 422 00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:44,250 Thank you, Supervisor Colbert. 423 00:45:44,410 --> 00:45:45,210 Supervisor Molten Peters. 424 00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:46,370 Yeah, thank you. 425 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:53,290 I'm going to join my colleagues in our county executive and express my sadness over what happened last week. 426 00:45:53,290 --> 00:46:00,930 my disgust, really. My appreciation for Colmea and our speakers today, and I want to join 427 00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:07,230 Tony Swan in creating a system of a web of solidarity with our black leaders who I value 428 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:14,410 very much and I'm very proud to work with. And I think that I'll leave it at that for now. 429 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:17,750 Great, and Supervisor Sackage, you have a couple updates? 430 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:19,630 Yeah, a couple of updates. 431 00:46:20,610 --> 00:46:29,330 The California State Association of Counties C-SAC Board of Directors met last week and took positions on the state propositions that will be on the November ballot. 432 00:46:29,530 --> 00:46:32,550 If anybody's interested in those, I'm happy to share it. 433 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:39,650 Really exciting on August 19, along with President Luke in on the smart board of directors. 434 00:46:39,650 --> 00:46:46,150 we adopted a resolution, approving the Geyserville station, and this was really in response to 435 00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:52,090 overwhelming support from that community asking for a smart stop, so it's really exciting 436 00:46:52,090 --> 00:46:58,070 to see that move forward. And then to note, this Thursday at 6 p.m. in these chambers, 437 00:46:58,270 --> 00:47:02,250 the transportation authority of Marin Board is meeting, and we're going to have a presentation from 438 00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:08,030 I'm Maria Larson, from Marin Public Health, from the County Public Health team on E-Bike Safety 439 00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:08,650 data. 440 00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:15,450 Looking at this one year after the implementation of AB 1778, the Marin's E-Bike pilot, 441 00:47:15,610 --> 00:47:17,290 and we'll look at that data a little bit closer. 442 00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:18,130 Thank you. 443 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:20,010 Thank you. 444 00:47:20,050 --> 00:47:22,670 I'm going to go to our kind of executive for the remainder of his report. 445 00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:28,570 Good morning, President Luke, and members of the board, just a few items to discuss this 446 00:47:28,570 --> 00:47:33,530 last week I was fortunate to be able to attend a biennual meeting with county executive 447 00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:38,770 administrators throughout the greater bay area, including the City Administrator of 448 00:47:38,770 --> 00:47:43,790 San Francisco and county executives from Sonoma, Santa Clara, San Mateo and Alameda 449 00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:44,210 County. 450 00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:50,070 We discussed a range of topics to strategize on implementation of HR-1. 451 00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:57,150 I think that is a common struggle across our region advancing how we use technology in local 452 00:47:57,150 --> 00:48:01,410 government there is a huge transformation underway and I would say every 453 00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:06,110 facet in every county in the Bay Area how we're approaching hybrid and in 454 00:48:06,110 --> 00:48:10,870 person work and also recruiting and retaining our workforce. I want to 455 00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:15,110 thank San Mateo for hosting this gathering and our regional collaboration and 456 00:48:15,110 --> 00:48:20,130 best practice sharing and it was a really important opportunity to really 457 00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:23,930 and Glean some information inside from Bay Area colleagues. 458 00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:27,170 More locally, shifting to San and Somo, 459 00:48:27,370 --> 00:48:28,810 I want to talk a little bit about our partnership 460 00:48:28,810 --> 00:48:32,390 with the town of San and Somo and Building Bridge 2, 461 00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:34,110 and the County Flood Control District 462 00:48:34,110 --> 00:48:35,950 and the town and Somo are working together. 463 00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:39,430 That is important step towards a community's long-term 464 00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:41,670 vision for Creek Park Plaza. 465 00:48:42,250 --> 00:48:45,490 The agencies are working on agreement to rehabilitate 466 00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:48,650 the district of Bridge 2 known as BB2, 467 00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:53,430 so that it can safely support future public use and help reconnect the Creek Park. 468 00:48:54,090 --> 00:48:59,430 The town will continue leading the broader Plaza Project while the district anticipates 469 00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:05,050 supporting structural repairs subject to future board approval. It is an exciting milestone 470 00:49:05,050 --> 00:49:10,450 after years of community planning and partnership and a meaningful step towards creating a welcoming 471 00:49:10,450 --> 00:49:17,590 downtown in place for residents, businesses, and visitors. As promised, this is your update on 472 00:49:17,590 --> 00:49:22,850 County Wides strategic plan, and it continues to move forward and the Center for Organizational 473 00:49:22,850 --> 00:49:27,730 Effectiveness is beginning individual board member interviews this past week, additional 474 00:49:27,730 --> 00:49:33,870 interviews with also assistant county executives are scheduled throughout September and October, 475 00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:38,590 and staff has also scheduling regular strategic planning subcommittee meetings throughout 476 00:49:38,590 --> 00:49:43,550 through January to keep the board closely connected to the process and emerging themes. 477 00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:49,950 Parallel, our team is building out the fall, community engagement effort, including district workshops, 478 00:49:50,810 --> 00:49:56,970 targeted stakeholder conversations and focus groups, and launching our engagement digital platform. 479 00:49:57,490 --> 00:49:59,970 There is a lot happening to say the least. 480 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:11,460 And staff is coordinating with other planning efforts underway to make sure we minimize duplication and make sure the community engagement is thoughtful, meaningful, and is accessible as possible. 481 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:19,360 Shifting gears to a future part of our organization in internships, the schools went back into sessions. 482 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:41,860 This concludes the end of our student summer of internship program and the completion of the program for this year and the Office of County Executive and the Board of Supervisors since June 20 interns worked in divisions throughout the Office of County Executive Board offices and offered meaningful contributions to work on projects. 483 00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:59,380 As one in turn set upon the completion of the internship throughout my internship with Marin County, I've had the opportunity to work across a wide range of departments and government offices and really get first hand understanding of how different parts of government come together to serve our community. 484 00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:13,680 They went to meetings across our state, including Sacramento and San Francisco, witnessed and had the opportunity to participate in discussions on and gain new perspectives on sea level rise down in the San Rafael canal. 485 00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:25,580 And as one intern put it, thank you to all the staff members who made the program possible this year and I want to thank the board members for hosting in terms of this past year. 486 00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:29,780 they are our future staff and leaders in this organization. 487 00:51:31,180 --> 00:51:37,800 Next, shifting to safety. This is the 15th year that the Marine County sidewalk CPR event brought 488 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:47,680 life-saving skills into the community on August 15th, 1000 and 94 people received free hands-on 489 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:54,140 training at 13 locations across Marin, including shopping centers, parks, and transit hubs. 490 00:51:54,140 --> 00:52:11,440 Participants learn simple skills, anyone can use an emergency, including hands on CPR and how to stop severe bleeding and how to use a defibrillator or AED and how to administer naloxone to reverse an opioid overdose. 491 00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:20,360 More than 700 doses of naloxone were also distributed at no cost and more than 100 volunteers help make the event possible. 492 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:26,440 So, thank you to everyone who volunteered, participated, and helped make our community and communities beyond 493 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,520 Marin safer. 494 00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:33,100 Shifting to just the latest scam alert, unfortunately I want to alert 495 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:39,240 Marin County residents to a scam that's emanated as occurring in affecting our Marin County 496 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:40,160 Sheriff's Office. 497 00:52:40,540 --> 00:52:45,560 I did the Sheriff's Office has received multiple reports of college demanding payments for 498 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,900 proposed that missed court appearances or warrants, sometimes threatening a rest of payment 499 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:51,760 isn't made. 500 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:57,060 Please remember the sheriff's office will never call and demand payment for a criminal or 501 00:52:57,060 --> 00:52:57,780 civil matter. 502 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,960 If you receive one of these calls, do not provide payment or personal information. 503 00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:09,600 If you believe you've lost money or shared confidential information, please contact the sheriff's 504 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:38,980 non emergency line at four one five four seven nine two three one one. And as we wrap up our regular schedule meetings for August just a reminder of the Labor Day observance with the county offices will be closed on Monday September 7th and observance of Labor Day. While most county offices will be closed just a reminder our first responders and many of our field staff will continue serving the community throughout the holiday and that concludes my report for this morning. 505 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:58,800 Thank you county executive. As we, we're now going to move into a public comment. This is for the county executive support for the supervisors matters or also if you have public comment on items not on today's agenda. As we move into public comment, I do want to make a note and remote public comment to remind everyone of our meeting rules. 506 00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:05,740 While the board strongly supports the public's first and minute rights and welcomes different and sometimes strongly express points of view. 507 00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:15,520 But a board meeting is a form for conducting the public's business and the board has the authority and responsibility to maintain an orderly meeting and prevent disruption. 508 00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:23,260 Comments on the agenda must relate to the agenda item during open time comments must concern matters within the board's jurisdiction. 509 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:29,440 I may also address conduct that disrupts or impedes the orderly conduct of the meeting, including 510 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,320 conduct and following comments that are profane or abusive. 511 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,200 These rules will be applied without regard to a speaker's viewpoint. 512 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:42,460 If necessary, we may briefly mute a speaker, explain a concern, and provide an opportunity 513 00:54:42,460 --> 00:54:43,080 to continue. 514 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,740 Repeated failure to remain within the permissible subject matter, or repeated disruptive 515 00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:52,960 conduct may result in the termination of the comment, and if it continues exclusion 516 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,120 from further remote comment during the meeting. With that, I'll open up to any public comment here 517 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,980 in the room for items of... 518 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,980 Board of Supervisors, updates, or non-agenda items, please come on up. 519 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:18,860 The name is Jack Bristol. I've appeared in front of you in the past. And this is regarding 520 00:55:18,860 --> 00:55:31,380 El Nenew. And in the damage that it will cause, as we know, it can hardly be reversed. 521 00:55:31,380 --> 00:55:41,440 But I'm here to ask you with your ability to request help and more than anything else 522 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:54,540 CalTrans and the areas that are located in Tam Valley, Manzanita, Marin City, and asking you 523 00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:59,140 But remind you, there are areas there. 524 00:55:59,540 --> 00:56:04,480 As one example, I would want, like we know, will be flooded. 525 00:56:05,380 --> 00:56:12,960 We also know that human beings in arguing with El Nino, will be damaged. 526 00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:19,260 We will not be able if they have a sickness to get out, to come back. 527 00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:23,700 There are gates that haven't been functioning. 528 00:56:24,620 --> 00:56:28,220 I understand, for years now, the Cal Trust, 529 00:56:28,340 --> 00:56:30,940 together with the assistance of the county, 530 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,600 installed years ago, and do have something 531 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,780 that has a purpose and not have it maintained, 532 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,680 and it's observed. 533 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,720 So please help the people, the human beings, 534 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:56,220 that will be affected by non-linear and whatever influence you're able to bring in the forces, 535 00:56:57,220 --> 00:57:08,480 call trans, yourself, others that can correct this urgent situation before it will not be 536 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,480 to be able to remedy a while ago. 537 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,480 Would you like to get wrap up, please? 538 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,680 May I go on for just a minute? 539 00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:22,020 Not a minute. You're at time right now. 540 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,300 Okay. Thank you. 541 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:24,240 Thank you. 542 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,620 Hi. Good morning. Thank you for hearing us today. 543 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,560 I'm so sorry. I was not here this week, 544 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,920 so I did not hear those comments, 545 00:57:39,140 --> 00:57:42,220 but I am so sorry for the pain that people experienced. 546 00:57:43,340 --> 00:57:44,740 I can only hope that the report. 547 00:57:44,740 --> 00:57:50,660 about to submit to you will answer at least maybe in some tiny way the inequities that were mentioned 548 00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:55,820 by the people who spoke. My report is from the Health Council of Marin. I'm Roberta Antis the 549 00:57:55,820 --> 00:58:02,680 current chair and the report is on the lack of access to healthcare in Marin. It was already formally 550 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:08,680 submitted but you won't see it until after our sunset review and the council would like a fair review 551 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,880 and we can only have that I think if you see our work. So I have a hard copies for everyone. Big packets. 552 00:58:15,220 --> 00:58:20,740 Anyway, the council attempted to give you a fairly comprehensive overview of the lack of access to care. 553 00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:27,760 We cited over three dozen very well researched articles and sources. 554 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:34,380 And we tried to consolidate that in one place so that you don't have to read over three dozen of these over the last months that we've been doing this. 555 00:58:34,660 --> 00:58:39,840 Our first part covers the shortage of primary care doctors and the various factors driving that shortage. 556 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,940 The second part covers the effects of HR1 and how these measures reduce access to health care, 557 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,620 which I'm sure you're all aware of. 558 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,040 In both cases, report covers what the federal government has done, both good and sometimes 559 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,880 very bad. 560 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,140 And also, it covers what the state, the county and private entities have done to try to help mitigate 561 00:58:59,140 --> 00:58:59,880 the issue. 562 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:06,000 Dr. Lisa Santoro's instrumental in helping us identify some of the state and county initiatives 563 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,840 and we're very grateful for that. 564 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:18,840 The report includes testimony from members of the public, a whole packet of letters, and including some from next door, which I put in because I thought you'd be interested to see how prevalent the issue is. 565 00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:24,560 We also offer some suggestions at the end that we think fall within the scope of the Board's authority. 566 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:32,100 And I hope that you find it informative and I hope that you strongly consider it when you evaluate whether or not the health council should be sunsetted. 567 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,360 So we hope that you don't sunset us. I'm going to hand this to the clerk. Thank you so much. 568 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:44,210 Thank you so much. I'm not seeing any additional public comments here. We will go online. I see two hands up 569 00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:50,200 rolling cats. You may now unmute. 570 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:59,920 Good morning. We're all a cast member in the Association of Public Employees. I want to add my voice and comments that I was made earlier day. First I just want to say. 571 01:00:00,210 --> 01:00:09,150 I don't have much to add to what all the very thoughtful, well-conspeakers said this morning, but I wish I could be there in person was there last week. 572 01:00:09,950 --> 01:00:17,150 I found a glaring and horrifying, and in shock even though I'm not naive at all about racism, it still exists. 573 01:00:18,310 --> 01:00:27,070 Those were my reactions. I agree with Ms. Baron, it was an act of cowardice for somebody who had made those comments the way he did. 574 01:00:27,930 --> 01:00:34,950 I also want to note that I too was dismayed by the town of the decision to find a fight 575 01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:40,290 that has to have, if Mr. Kirk was assassinated, of course we all condemned that kind 576 01:00:40,290 --> 01:00:45,390 of violence, but it doesn't mean he was, that a life worth honoring, but back to the point 577 01:00:45,390 --> 01:00:51,790 of last week, I preached years again all the comments in your action, and I'm behalf of 578 01:00:51,790 --> 01:00:57,550 I simply want to say we stand in solidarity with all employees in the county, but particularly 579 01:00:58,050 --> 01:01:01,970 our African American members and all African American employees. 580 01:01:02,530 --> 01:01:10,450 As horrifying as I found it to be, I know that it will never use that file term. 581 01:01:11,290 --> 01:01:16,390 We'll never vet me as deeply as the effects of the white person in this country. 582 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:17,710 Thank you very much. 583 01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:24,690 Erica B. C. P. U. You may now unmute. 584 01:01:27,690 --> 01:01:28,350 Good morning. 585 01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:30,150 What is the supervisor's? 586 01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:34,730 My name is Erica Butler and I am an employee here at this kind. 587 01:01:35,530 --> 01:01:37,170 I'm also. 588 01:01:38,830 --> 01:01:43,530 The president of mate, which is the unit represents majority of the kind of authors. 589 01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:47,050 And I wanted to say this morning. 590 01:01:47,050 --> 01:01:51,990 a stand-in solidarity with all the economists that have been made with millions of bomb 591 01:01:51,990 --> 01:02:01,370 that come out rather than sisters. It was pretty horrific to learn the events that 592 01:02:01,370 --> 01:02:07,670 had happened last week. And to also know that there are so many members here with 593 01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:15,270 the county employees and committee members who had to, you know, just experience the 594 01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:26,030 I said we also in the hurtful paper language that was used by the cowardice made on behalf of Chief Washington. 595 01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:43,350 I think that also to say that I was forward to this kind of management, putting forward those resources to help develop resources when materials for all of us to stand and answer that. 596 01:02:43,350 --> 01:02:44,610 this and 597 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,820 I appreciate the opportunity to 598 01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:50,900 it, we're right to attend with some 599 01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:52,780 ones that we could address this and 600 01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:55,500 on. And so thank you for your time. 601 01:03:00,610 --> 01:03:02,550 Susan Canner, you may now unmute. 602 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,460 Good morning. I'm Susan Canner. 603 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,200 The chair of the Alcohol and Drug Advisory Board 604 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,000 is this the time I should speak on the 605 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,280 sunset review of our board or will it 606 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,420 come up later? Susan, that will come 607 01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:25,280 later in the agenda and they'll be on an opportunity to speak specifically to that item. 608 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,060 Thank you. I'll speak later. 609 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,700 Thank you. We're going to end closed public comment. Thank you all. We're going to move on with 610 01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:37,960 our agenda. We have several consent calendars, consent calendar A, B, the open space consent, 611 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:44,420 and the flood control consent. Any colleagues wish to pull anything or questions on any? 612 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,960 I'm not putting anything present, Luke, and just to recognize the University of California 613 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:56,560 Ren Master Gardner Program 40-year of service resolution, so thank you for that. 614 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,060 Thank you, supervisor. 615 01:03:58,900 --> 01:03:59,640 Not seeing any others. 616 01:03:59,780 --> 01:04:02,780 Is there any public comment on any of these poor consent calendars? 617 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,020 I don't see any in the room. 618 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,320 We'll look online. 619 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,500 Also not seeing any hands go up online. 620 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,660 We're going to close public comment on all of these. 621 01:04:11,660 --> 01:04:14,440 do we have a motion on consent calendar A? 622 01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:18,170 I'll move consent calendar A. 623 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,320 Well second. 624 01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:22,100 Motion by Supervisor Colbert. 625 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,740 Second by Supervisor Molten Peters. 626 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,720 All those in favor. 627 01:04:26,620 --> 01:04:28,740 I'm going to pose that passes consent B. 628 01:04:29,020 --> 01:04:34,300 I'll move consent B with appreciation for the Marin City Summer Program. 629 01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:41,760 The funding for the concept designed for a Southern Ren bicycle facility and gratitude to Rachel Calvert 630 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,620 for the Lumida rehab projects. 631 01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:48,280 So I make that motion with appreciation. 632 01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:52,780 Motion by Supervisor Molten Peters with appreciation. 633 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,680 And a second from Supervisor Rodoni, all those in favor. 634 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:57,640 Hi. 635 01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,980 Now I'm going to pose that passes as well. 636 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,500 The open space consent calendar. 637 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,500 I'll move adoption of the open space calendar. Second. 638 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,460 Motion by supervisor Sackett, second by supervisor Rodoni, all in favor. 639 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:18,120 Aye, none opposed. That also passes five zero and then lastly the flood control consent calendar. 640 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,080 I'll move the flood control calendar. 641 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,860 All second. Motion by supervisor. 642 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,200 Second by supervisor Colbert, all those in favor. 643 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,540 Aye. Aye. Also passes. 644 01:05:29,540 --> 01:05:35,040 We'll move on to item 9A, Martin's landing easements with an option to purchase agreement. 645 01:05:35,660 --> 01:05:41,740 I'd like to invite up the team from Parks, quoting our Director Chris Chamberlain. 646 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,640 I see Carl Summers and the team all coming up. 647 01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:47,900 I'll let Chris introduce the group. 648 01:05:52,460 --> 01:05:53,980 Good morning, Mr. President. 649 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,800 Supervisor Chris Chamberlain, Director Marine County Parks. 650 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,380 Yeah, the item before you this morning. 651 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:07,460 really is the next step in really important process and our long-term work to protect the 652 01:06:07,460 --> 01:06:15,360 the marsh down both in marsh and a really critical section of the Bay Trail segment in southern 653 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,680 Marin at the time in the junction area. 654 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,400 I just, as we facing this changing climate and sea level rise, we're seeing a lot of impacts 655 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:23,740 there. 656 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,100 I'm going to turn it over to staff here momentarily for a presentation, but I just wanted to 657 01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,740 really reiterate to your board as we go into this presentation. 658 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,420 The both in March evolving shorelines project, the presentation you're about to get is really 659 01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:42,180 kind of honing in on an important real estate transaction, the acquisition of an easement 660 01:06:42,180 --> 01:06:43,680 or the right to acquire an easement. 661 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,460 And it really doesn't dive into the breadth of this project. 662 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,660 We'd certainly welcome the opportunity to come back to your board at a future date to really 663 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:52,760 take that deeper dive. 664 01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:57,780 But we will highlight the general overview of the project and really hone in. 665 01:06:57,780 --> 01:06:59,740 But I just wanted to kind of lay that framework 666 01:06:59,740 --> 01:07:01,240 as we head into this presentation. 667 01:07:02,060 --> 01:07:05,960 And with that, I'll turn it over to Tara McIntyre from our team. 668 01:07:08,510 --> 01:07:09,610 OK, good morning. 669 01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:12,590 There we go. 670 01:07:12,890 --> 01:07:14,090 Let's see if the clicker works. 671 01:07:14,350 --> 01:07:14,790 Quicker works. 672 01:07:15,710 --> 01:07:18,130 Good morning, President Luke in and supervisors. 673 01:07:18,610 --> 01:07:20,310 My name is Tara McIntyre. 674 01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:22,030 Projects and Design Manager. 675 01:07:22,270 --> 01:07:23,970 And I'm here with my colleague, Carl Summers, 676 01:07:24,070 --> 01:07:25,970 who's a chief of planning and real property. 677 01:07:26,590 --> 01:07:28,270 And on behalf of Marin County Parks, 678 01:07:28,270 --> 01:07:32,510 an open space district, we're here to provide a brief presentation and answer any questions 679 01:07:32,510 --> 01:07:37,490 on the Martin's Landing easement for what you were asking for your approval and authorization. 680 01:07:39,590 --> 01:07:45,930 So the staff report covers really all the details as real properties often very complex. I 681 01:07:45,930 --> 01:07:51,890 am always challenged to understand all the legalese. However, in simple terms, we're asking 682 01:07:51,890 --> 01:07:57,590 for your approval and authorization to have an option to purchase easements for Martin's Landing 683 01:07:57,590 --> 01:08:03,370 and related budget actions, which are specifically tied to as Chris mentioned, the advancement 684 01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:09,250 of both the involving shorelines plan and the relocation of the Mil Valley, Sossolido 685 01:08:09,250 --> 01:08:15,570 Multis Pathway. And I'd like to pause here briefly to acknowledge that the evolving shorelines 686 01:08:15,570 --> 01:08:20,470 effort has been implanting and designed for nearly 10 years and has been through an intensive 687 01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:27,050 public outreach process. And at the core of this action, our design changes that could make 688 01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:31,610 potential future project more feasible and less expensive. 689 01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:35,150 Those are two really important elements when we're trying 690 01:08:35,150 --> 01:08:38,350 to deliver a major undertaking like this with significant 691 01:08:38,350 --> 01:08:40,890 implementation costs and complexity. 692 01:08:42,610 --> 01:08:46,430 So your board's six county priorities really provide a 693 01:08:46,430 --> 01:08:50,210 focused framework for how to best allocate resources. 694 01:08:50,690 --> 01:08:54,050 And this action before you today plays a key supporting role 695 01:08:54,050 --> 01:09:00,250 and, again, the both in evolving shorelines adaptation effort, which meets four of the six priorities shown. 696 01:09:01,510 --> 01:09:06,730 And, and I want to point out a company this image of our sea level rise marker, right there on the Mill Valley, 697 01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:07,570 Sossilu, pathway. 698 01:09:07,810 --> 01:09:10,170 This is from the King Tides, from January. 699 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:15,350 I'm sure everybody remembers, and it speaks volumes to setting the why. 700 01:09:15,830 --> 01:09:23,550 The stage for why we are here today and the critical work that we're already undertaking to adapt to climate change and sea level rise. 701 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:31,600 So, both in March, for folks who don't know, it's located on the northern end of Richardson Bay. 702 01:09:31,980 --> 01:09:34,540 It's near Cam Junction and Melvalley. 703 01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:43,440 The March itself is a biologically important title wetland within the larger Richardson Bay ecological system. 704 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:51,400 It supports rare, threatened and endangered species, and it really serves as a key migration stop along the Pacific Flyway. 705 01:09:51,940 --> 01:09:59,980 The Mill Valley Sossolita Multis Pathway, which by Sexton March, as you can see here, is an important section of the Bay Trail system, and one of the most... 706 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000 Public comment, motion, 707 01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:12,490 second, 708 01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:31,030 vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, 709 01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:43,850 It points to really a serious issue, the pathway in the marsh are already vulnerable and that vulnerability will continue to increase with sea level rise and without intervention both are at risk. 710 01:10:45,410 --> 01:10:52,310 So this rendering here, this shows the proposed conceptual path alignment for the evolving shorelines effort. 711 01:10:52,310 --> 01:11:07,230 And this, the idea is to shift the path to the edge of the marsh while preserving the shoreline experience with everybody loves who uses that pathway and create a more space for restoration and long-term marsh resilience. 712 01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:21,050 This concept also reflects the community priorities through that outreach process, including improved neighborhood connections, additional trailheads, formalized parking amenities and separation from El Monte Boulevard. 713 01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:28,530 And the existing path through the marsh would then be removed once a new alignment is fully operational. 714 01:11:31,670 --> 01:11:38,690 So now we're going to focus on exactly where these easements that we're here today to discuss is our located in relationship to both in marsh. 715 01:11:38,690 --> 01:11:43,010 the red square is what to kind of keep your eye on. 716 01:11:43,190 --> 01:11:44,710 So on the left, as a full view of the marsh, 717 01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:47,370 Tam Junction, again, to the south, 718 01:11:47,410 --> 01:11:48,870 Al-Monkey, to the west, and 101, 719 01:11:49,570 --> 01:11:50,870 Richardson Bay Bridge to the east. 720 01:11:51,190 --> 01:11:52,850 And then the zoomed image on the right 721 01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:55,850 shows the general location known as Martin's Landing, 722 01:11:56,970 --> 01:11:58,490 which is north of Highway 1. 723 01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:01,310 It's really the heart of Tam Junction, 724 01:12:01,710 --> 01:12:05,190 and which shares a property boundary with both the in marsh. 725 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:10,120 So now we're going to talk about the core details here. 726 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,600 These next two slides will break out the specific easements, but for this slide's important, 727 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:20,980 only to note that the open space district is the upper green partial and the lower 728 01:12:20,980 --> 01:12:26,540 martin's landing parcel is in red and which shares the border. 729 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,600 Sorry, I just clicked too far. 730 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:42,230 So, there we go. The shoreline's pathway alignment is currently shown as 731 01:12:42,230 --> 01:12:45,290 on the UCL on the plan, so it's out in the marsh. 732 01:12:45,810 --> 01:12:48,430 So as we have been progressing design, 733 01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:51,830 we identified challenges related to wetland impacts 734 01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:54,190 long-term maintenance and implementation costs, 735 01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:56,730 because really when you're building a massive structure 736 01:12:56,730 --> 01:12:59,350 on a sponge, it's really heavy, 737 01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:01,150 which is essentially what that is doing. 738 01:13:01,950 --> 01:13:04,470 So, and it's not impossible, it's just really costly 739 01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:05,610 and problematic. 740 01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:09,250 So an opportunity emerged to potentially acquire an easement 741 01:13:09,250 --> 01:13:11,850 across a privately owned Martins landing property 742 01:13:11,850 --> 01:13:14,730 that could potentially solve many of these issues. 743 01:13:16,230 --> 01:13:18,770 So by shifting the current conceptual alignment, 744 01:13:18,970 --> 01:13:20,230 there are several benefits. 745 01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:22,430 First, it allows us to move the trail onto land 746 01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:24,530 that has already been disturbed for decades 747 01:13:25,090 --> 01:13:27,050 and reduced wetland impacts, 748 01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:29,190 and then also provide more room for habitat. 749 01:13:29,390 --> 01:13:32,370 It could also help with permitting, simplify construction, 750 01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:36,050 reduce settlement concerns, and allow for greater flexibility 751 01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:39,090 for sea level rise and future shoreline protection. 752 01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:42,710 So there's three main easements. 753 01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:49,850 The first two A and B, which you can see is like click the thing often on, easement A would 754 01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:55,490 grant an easement to Martin's landing from MCOSD for vehicular access to the property from 755 01:13:55,490 --> 01:13:56,630 Almondi Boulevard. 756 01:13:57,630 --> 01:14:02,470 easement B would grant an easement from Martin's landing to the county for the purpose of 757 01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:06,890 potentially constructing the proposed trail as part of the botheen evolving shorelines. 758 01:14:06,890 --> 01:14:13,110 So here, just to clarify, the county is not proposing to purchase anything today. 759 01:14:13,810 --> 01:14:19,510 Today's action is merely proposing to secure the right to purchase the easements later. 760 01:14:20,690 --> 01:14:27,870 This one sure that Martin's landy property remains available, allowing for us to do a thorough evaluation 761 01:14:27,870 --> 01:14:32,950 as a potential alternative during the environmental compliance process 762 01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:35,870 for the both-eane evolving shorelines. 763 01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:39,330 So if Martin's landing alignment alternative, 764 01:14:40,030 --> 01:14:43,890 which you see here, is selected at that point, 765 01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:47,590 and then subsequently certified by your board, 766 01:14:47,970 --> 01:14:50,530 would we also exercise that option 767 01:14:50,530 --> 01:14:52,410 to purchase the process, the easements? 768 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:55,650 So one additional easement, 769 01:14:55,930 --> 01:14:58,210 which does not hold permanent transfer, 770 01:14:58,210 --> 01:14:59,970 such as A and B. 771 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:16,880 This is a temporary construction easement that would be granted by Martin's landing to the county. And that would be for the purpose of constructing the proposed pathway. And again, this is only if Martin's landing, trail alignment is selected as a preferred alternative. 772 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,000 So inevitably we're going to have to talk about real estate terms. 773 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,280 And these next two slides attempt to capture in the simplest manner. 774 01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:33,060 The first two easements A and B, again, this is an option 775 01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:37,240 Agreement legally securing the rights to purchase easements, 776 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,000 pending environmental review, which we expect to take two to three years. 777 01:15:41,540 --> 01:15:43,980 Because it comes down to, like, without having 778 01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:48,920 SITE control through this option, we cannot legally consider this as an alternative 779 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,760 as part of the environmental compliance process of sequence. 780 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,500 So, as negotiated with Martin's Landing, there are also three non-refundable payments, as you 781 01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:04,240 can see here, with allowances for three extensions, and this totals approximately $115,000. 782 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:09,840 And if the option is exercised, they amount to be credited towards the purchase. 783 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:17,020 Additionally, your board just approved the option that easement for A under the previous 784 01:16:17,020 --> 01:16:31,720 action and under the open space district. And then finally just before we finish the temporary construction easement has been a praise and a monthly rate with the duration of any future construction. 785 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:46,240 So, in closing, as recommended by staff, we ask you to prove and authorize this option to purchase the agreement, as well as the budget adjustments between the county marine county 786 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:51,460 County Open Space District and Martin's Landing, and we're here to answer any questions. 787 01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:52,240 Thank you. 788 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:53,560 Thank you, Tara. 789 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,720 I'll go and see if there are any questions on this one. 790 01:16:58,460 --> 01:17:00,120 Not seeing any from the board. 791 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,820 We'll quickly go to public comment. 792 01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:04,960 Is there any public comment on this here in the chambers? 793 01:17:05,780 --> 01:17:06,620 Please come on up. 794 01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:12,320 Thank you. 795 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,860 My name is Jack Crystal. 796 01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:19,300 And we are supportive of this proposed plan. 797 01:17:19,300 --> 01:17:29,920 We need to, and you need to keep in mind the after effect effects of what is being considered, 798 01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:41,660 which includes a bridge nearby that is going to be elevated, a pathway that has been used heavily. 799 01:17:41,660 --> 01:17:50,840 No valley, so Salito, portions of Marin City, and taking in mind that, look at the fact 800 01:17:50,840 --> 01:18:01,120 that, instead of being walking areas, and the foresight of sea level rise that should 801 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:11,640 be dealt with El Nino in the future, and now that the rest of the pathway will also 802 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:19,720 have to be taken care of by elevating it and then adjoining properties that will have to 803 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:27,400 then to be protected so that they will not be flooded as a result of elevating the pathway. 804 01:18:28,060 --> 01:18:33,740 Any questions? Happy to give them to you. Thank you, Jack. 805 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,740 I don't see any other public comment. Any online? 806 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,600 No hands online. 807 01:18:41,140 --> 01:18:44,200 We'll go to bring it back for comments and or action. 808 01:18:44,340 --> 01:18:45,680 I'll start with supervisor Milton Peters. 809 01:18:45,820 --> 01:18:46,540 Thank you. 810 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,800 I want to thank Tara and our whole county team for this. 811 01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:53,320 You know, this is a very meaningful step forward for both 812 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:53,940 scene. 813 01:18:54,380 --> 01:18:59,960 It's also a superb example of multi benefit planning and cooperation with 814 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:00,920 landowners. 815 01:19:01,140 --> 01:19:02,940 And I want to thank Martin's landing. 816 01:19:03,340 --> 01:19:06,800 They have been generous and cooperative and they are really helping 817 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:14,920 us do a much needed sea level rise project less expensively and to address flooding sooner. 818 01:19:15,860 --> 01:19:19,800 So I want to thank them, Jan and Bimbo and I walked the whole site. 819 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,240 We've seen what's intended here. 820 01:19:22,580 --> 01:19:23,540 We like it a lot. 821 01:19:23,900 --> 01:19:29,240 So thank you and to the whole Martin's Landing team for the work you've done to get us here. 822 01:19:29,340 --> 01:19:32,760 I would move approval of this motion of this item. 823 01:19:33,980 --> 01:19:39,460 I'd be happy to second this just with my appreciation. This really feels like a generational 824 01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:48,560 improvement to a very complicated area and such an important part of our bicycle infrastructure. 825 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,290 So thank you for working through all of the not minor details to bring this forward. 826 01:19:55,540 --> 01:19:59,660 All right, so we have a motion by Supervisor Moldem Peters, the second by Supervisor Sackett, any additional 827 01:20:00,940 --> 01:20:08,000 Not seen any, all those in favor. Aye, not opposed. That passes. Thank you so much. 828 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:16,340 Move on to item 9B, which is the 2025 crop and livestock report and sheep and wool market assessment. 829 01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:20,420 I'll welcome up Joe and the team. Good to see you. 830 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,080 Welcome everybody. 831 01:20:37,070 --> 01:20:39,930 Yes, thank you. Nice to see you. 832 01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:43,770 Good morning, President Luke and members of the board and Chief Executive Johnson. 833 01:20:44,670 --> 01:20:49,230 My name is Joe DeVany, and I serve as the Agricultural Commissioner here for Marine County, 834 01:20:49,610 --> 01:20:54,810 and it is our pleasure to present the 2025 Crop Report, Crop and Livestock Report. 835 01:20:55,770 --> 01:21:01,050 So I'm going to provide a few overarching comments, and then I'll hand my the mic over to Allison Klein, 836 01:21:01,570 --> 01:21:05,830 who is the Agricultural Arts and Advisors Inspector who did a lot of the work putting this together. 837 01:21:06,590 --> 01:21:13,490 So, overall, the 2025 season really benefited from a lot of above average rainfall, 838 01:21:14,350 --> 01:21:19,690 which supported exceptional range land growth, and lowered the feed and operating pressures 839 01:21:19,690 --> 01:21:21,490 for all of our local producers. 840 01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:28,530 And at the same time, the beef prices reached record highs statewide and nationwide, 841 01:21:28,530 --> 01:21:35,870 creating one of the most, I guess, financially positive cattle seasons and in a recent history for sure. 842 01:21:36,910 --> 01:21:42,570 To together, these conditions provided a lot of stability and improved our livestock health 843 01:21:42,570 --> 01:21:49,170 and supported the economic resilience of Marin's ranching community, letting them build back up from those years of drought we had. 844 01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:58,510 So next slide, please. This slide is just kind of a reminder that this, 845 01:21:58,510 --> 01:22:03,670 commission or must do every year annually, so we just are asking for acceptance of this report 846 01:22:03,670 --> 01:22:09,090 today on the agenda. So with that, I'm going to hand the microphone over to Allison to provide 847 01:22:09,090 --> 01:22:10,550 an overview of this statistics. 848 01:22:13,460 --> 01:22:17,080 Good morning. I'm Allison Klein, and inspector with the department, 849 01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:24,060 and I'm pleased to help present the 2025 crop in livestock report to you today. This first slide 850 01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:31,520 shows the gross production values of the major agricultural commodity groups that I'll go 851 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:37,940 into some more detail in following slides. The most important takeaway that I want to share with 852 01:22:37,940 --> 01:22:47,000 you is that the gross value of all agricultural production in Marin County in 2025 was $94.1 million. 853 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:55,860 That's a 12% increase from the year prior 2024 and then some group updates. 854 01:22:56,420 --> 01:23:04,280 The value of livestock and aquaculture increased 21% livestock products decreased to 2%. 855 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:11,000 Field crops increased 12% and fruit vegetable and nursery crops decreased 12%. 856 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:20,620 Cattle and Caves, which was valued at $23 million, was the top-grossing commodity in 2025. 857 01:23:21,460 --> 01:23:25,720 It's value increased 43% from 2024. 858 01:23:26,900 --> 01:23:35,460 The 2025 beef market reached unprecedented levels nationwide, driven by limited herd recovery from prior drought years, 859 01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:38,720 high input costs and high consumer demand. 860 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:45,440 And then poultry, which ranked second-in-value, increased about 2% from the year prior. 861 01:23:49,420 --> 01:23:56,980 On the livestock products group, organic milk continues to remain the highest valued livestock product 862 01:23:56,980 --> 01:23:59,320 at $21.4 million. 863 01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:07,780 Production drops lately in 2025, but the higher price largely offset the 1% decline in total value. 864 01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:17,970 The total growth value of field crops increased 12%, early season rains came consistently 865 01:24:17,970 --> 01:24:25,090 in 2025, supporting strong, forage germination and growth, as evidenced by the increase in 866 01:24:25,090 --> 01:24:27,650 value of pasture and silage. 867 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:38,520 And then taking a look at fruit vegetable and nursery crops, while the total growth value 868 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:48,300 fruits and vegetables decreased 13% in 2025 from 2.4 to 2.1 million dollars, it's worth noting 869 01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:59,000 that Planet Acreage actually increased and harvested Acreage held steady. This was a 870 01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,960 You're continuing to grow in the... 871 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:09,340 Come more diverse. The 2025 wine grape harvest delivered higher than expected yields in Marin, even though fewer 872 01:25:09,340 --> 01:25:16,580 acres were harvested. However, grape prices were lower, and that's partly because California continues 873 01:25:16,580 --> 01:25:24,580 to have an over supply of wine grapes. As a result, the total value of Marin's wine grapes fell by 10%. 874 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:35,100 We would like to express our gratitude to all the growers, producers, processors, government agencies, and others who contributed information to make this report possible. 875 01:25:36,620 --> 01:25:38,680 And now I'll hand the mic back to Joe. 876 01:25:39,700 --> 01:25:40,440 Thank you, Allison. 877 01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:45,660 You guys might remember, every year we try to do something special in the corporate reports, 878 01:25:46,020 --> 01:25:48,400 just show really what's happening in Marin specifically. 879 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:53,960 So last year we did by local and we did a new map how to do that and but you brought for that 880 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,520 We really focused on climate and all the wonderful things that 881 01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:04,640 Agriculture does to the climate well this year we um you might have noticed in the crop report it's very small item but wool 882 01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:09,140 It's interesting though. I mean 883 01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:14,980 There was I think 10,000 sheep this year but there has been up to 50,000 sheep here 884 01:26:14,980 --> 01:26:19,120 There's been up to 300,000 pounds of wool in some years. 885 01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:21,720 So there's potential here, people always ask me, 886 01:26:22,060 --> 01:26:24,600 what else can we do? What's the future of agriculture in Marin? 887 01:26:25,340 --> 01:26:30,080 So there's a lot of interest in wool and natural fibers, as we did in, 888 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:37,780 that the July plastics, plastic for each July, wool has a lot of new textile 889 01:26:37,780 --> 01:26:45,500 opportunities in acoustics in, of course, clothes and different types of textiles. 890 01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:49,820 So there seems to be a lot of interest and some momentum there. 891 01:26:50,340 --> 01:26:52,700 So I was asked to, let's look into this a little bit further. 892 01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:55,000 So we focused on wool this year. 893 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,760 So just run through these slides real quick. 894 01:26:58,220 --> 01:27:01,520 Rebecca Burgess is up there on the left-hand side of the screen. 895 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:06,820 And we're very lucky to have a global presence here for with fiber shed. 896 01:27:06,820 --> 01:27:19,440 And all the wonderful things that natural fibers can provide and all the beneficial use of the land with the sheep and how the ecosystem services benefit from their presence. 897 01:27:20,540 --> 01:27:22,220 So they're based out in Black Mountain. 898 01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:25,020 So that's something very special that we have here in Marin. 899 01:27:25,780 --> 01:27:30,720 And then on the right-hand side is a Libby Patterson who owns a store called the Woolshed, 900 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:39,900 which is a very appropriately named, like the milk shed, the wool shed is a lot of the local producers are able to sell right at her shop there. 901 01:27:40,180 --> 01:27:47,800 So if you go into that shop, you'll see a lot of our local wool producers with a very wonderfully artistic and well done type of products. 902 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:48,920 So next slide, please. 903 01:27:50,900 --> 01:27:56,360 And then here we have two of our multi-generational farmers, ranchers in Marin. 904 01:27:56,360 --> 01:28:03,440 And we have Joe Posey on the left who was early on really trying to promote and get wool 905 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:11,760 more products into marketing and working with other folks and Sonoma County regionally 906 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:17,220 and he's also on the American wool and she association at the national level. 907 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:24,420 Jim Jensen on the right, another very specific type of thing, he sells his wool to Franklin 908 01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:29,000 move, which is a pillowmaker, so there's these relationships that are pretty neat that we have 909 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:34,360 built in our county. And then we'll next slide, please. And then in the corporate report, 910 01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:40,460 we also wanted to round it out with, we have Mimi Luberman on the left there. And she does a 911 01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:45,180 lot of work at farmers markets and educating everything from, you know, the different types of 912 01:28:45,180 --> 01:28:51,100 wool, the different types of fibers and felting and carding and spinning all the way through 913 01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:55,900 a great educator and as a lot of exposure to a lot of young kids. 914 01:28:56,500 --> 01:29:00,680 And then on the right we have Marsha Baranaga who is quite an artesian with her wool. 915 01:29:00,980 --> 01:29:04,340 She has different jackets, she puts on them to really make the highest quality. 916 01:29:04,420 --> 01:29:08,060 She's a ward-winning type of wool and you can see you're there with her bags. 917 01:29:08,940 --> 01:29:15,660 She actually has the individual animals with their wool that it's maintained all the way 918 01:29:15,660 --> 01:29:20,820 through the process and you can buy socks or whatever from, for instance, there's cracker 919 01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:24,040 is the sheep there on the left at the bottom. 920 01:29:24,500 --> 01:29:26,740 You could get some socks made from his wool, 921 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:28,300 or her wool, or, yeah. 922 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,460 Anyway, thank you for that, look quick. 923 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,700 And then in addition to the focusing on the crop report, 924 01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:36,740 we were allowed to do a special sheep 925 01:29:36,740 --> 01:29:38,160 and wool assessment. 926 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,940 Is there really some kind of traction here 927 01:29:39,940 --> 01:29:40,900 we can get for the future? 928 01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:43,500 So we have a Duncan McEwen over here 929 01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:46,340 with ERA economics who put together 930 01:29:46,340 --> 01:29:48,420 an assessment of our local industry 931 01:29:48,420 --> 01:29:50,240 with some constraints and opportunities. 932 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:51,720 So I'll pass the mic over to Duncan. 933 01:29:53,660 --> 01:29:53,840 Awesome. 934 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:54,440 Thank you, Joe. 935 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:56,960 Good morning, President, Supervisor. 936 01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:57,700 Duncan McEwen. 937 01:29:57,820 --> 01:29:59,720 We should have a bit, another. 938 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,400 Presentation. Okay, give them a second to pull that up. Duncan McEwen, with the RA economics, and I should acknowledge 939 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:13,500 the work of some of my colleagues, Tory Laird, and Ashley Spalding, that worked on this assessment 940 01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:22,160 with us. I also wanted to thank Joe for his, as you know, Joe's creativity and interest and enthusiasm 941 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:27,140 for this type of agricultural work is always fun to work around. And we really appreciate his partnership 942 01:30:27,140 --> 01:30:30,320 and the county's partnership on this effort. 943 01:30:31,340 --> 01:30:33,240 So what we were asked to do is put together 944 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,240 what we would call a kind of a reconnaissance level 945 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,040 overview of the sheep industry and that's from sheep 946 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,200 through wool production focusing on marine 947 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,120 county but we also want to zoom out a little bit 948 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,480 and just figure out and show how marine county fits 949 01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,940 into the global trade and global markets for wool. 950 01:30:50,780 --> 01:30:53,880 So we pulled industry data together, economic data, 951 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:55,760 and importantly worked with a bunch 952 01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:01,280 of your local producers and experts both here in Marin County and then regionally across 953 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:06,060 Northern California and Joe went through a number of those in his prior slides and 954 01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:11,440 a lot of that feedback and insights into the current industry is reflected in the report 955 01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:12,540 that we've put together. 956 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:18,460 So the figure here shows you the overall kind of supply chain going from the sheep enterprise 957 01:31:18,460 --> 01:31:23,720 through wool processing and final products and for wool it's kind of going two directions 958 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:33,840 depending on its quality, you know, finished into consumer goods and textiles like Joe was talking about or other like soil amendments that the tag wool would go to. 959 01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:43,160 And that all starts with the sheep and the sheep enterprise, which is really built on three things here in the county, the economics that are driven by meat and grazing opportunities. 960 01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:52,500 And then fiber or wool is kind of the third component. And it's typically a smaller component currently of the economics of sheep production at the farm. 961 01:31:53,720 --> 01:32:05,180 So zooming out a little bit, the U.S. wool industry, it's a global industry, and over the last several decades has generally declined and stabilized over the last handful of years. 962 01:32:05,900 --> 01:32:14,280 But in general, as you can see on the table on the right, the U.S. is a net exporter of raw wool and a net importer of finished wool. 963 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:19,000 And in short, the economics are such that it's generally cheaper currently to export 964 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:24,380 and have wool processed and turned into other products that we then import back to the United 965 01:32:24,380 --> 01:32:30,120 States. But what we're looking at US trade data and the market for wool that masks some 966 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:37,000 of the important regional differences in some of the local niche markets that like those that are 967 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,540 available here in Rain County. And so that's part of what we want to look at in this study. 968 01:32:42,660 --> 01:32:47,740 And then these trends have been driven by largely changes in consumer demand, you know, 969 01:32:47,900 --> 01:32:49,360 trends towards synthetic fibers. 970 01:32:49,660 --> 01:32:53,860 But as Joe mentioned, that's kind of reversed in recent years with more attention on microplastics 971 01:32:53,860 --> 01:32:55,820 and more interest in natural fibers. 972 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,760 So that supports markets like wool. 973 01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:04,460 So if we drill down into the Marin County wool industry, this graph is shown in trends over time, 974 01:33:04,580 --> 01:33:09,440 and total production, and then inflation adjusted prices, you can see peak wool production 975 01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:15,820 and the county was in the early 1960s and declined pretty steadily through the early 2000s. 976 01:33:15,860 --> 01:33:21,040 And then price fell with it and has stabilized in more recent years over about the last 15 years. 977 01:33:22,020 --> 01:33:27,440 And then the table on the right is showing where wool produced within Marin County is typically going. 978 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:35,140 So you'll notice that a lot of the processing aggregation processing facilities are outside of Marin County. 979 01:33:35,140 --> 01:33:36,960 And the question is, what are the opportunities here 980 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,100 to capitalize on some of that economic value 981 01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,960 and keep that local and help grow this industry? 982 01:33:43,820 --> 01:33:46,900 So look again, Marine County agriculture, 983 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,760 the graph on the figure on the right is showing the distribution 984 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,960 of irrigated crop acreage as of 2024 and grazing land. 985 01:33:55,420 --> 01:33:56,760 And it shows a couple of things. 986 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,640 That there's a relatively small irrigated footprint 987 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,100 for agriculture in the county, 988 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,860 but a substantial amount of grazing land. 989 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,600 And as I'll talk about in a second, 990 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:15,020 A lot of that land is under easements, agricultural easements or other open space easements that can work well with grazing opportunities for sheep and other livestock. 991 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:22,200 As of 2024, the wool industry was about 24,000 pounds and the gross value of that industry was about $40,000. 992 01:34:22,540 --> 01:34:30,040 So again, it's a relatively small component currently of those three things that drive the sheep enterprise in addition to meat and grazing opportunities. 993 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:34,320 So, looking ahead, what are the opportunities here in Marin County? 994 01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,800 And there's additional detail on the report. 995 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,760 We've got some listed on the slides here. 996 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,600 I want to focus on four key things. 997 01:34:43,940 --> 01:34:49,460 So, the first is, and this was supported by feedback from the industry folks that we worked 998 01:34:49,460 --> 01:34:53,040 with and interviewed, you know, the initial opportunities are for aggregation. 999 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:59,820 So that, you know, smaller scale producers can have the ability to access and compete in a broader 1000 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:13,740 So aggregation opportunities locally. The second, and this is clear from the businesses that Joe is highlighted, the success of those depend on access to kind of what I would call niche markets that, you know, are kind of creative. 1001 01:35:14,540 --> 01:35:24,520 Can maybe tap into the demand from the greater bay area and some of the opportunities for natural fibers that have come up and consumer demand for those items. 1002 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:31,560 And then the third thing is working, not not viewing Marin as like an island in the sheep 1003 01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:36,700 and wool industry, but working regionally, as part of the work that we did, there's other 1004 01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:41,360 research efforts and industry efforts going on in Lake County and other areas around Northern 1005 01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,920 California and there can be value in participating in those regional initiatives, both from 1006 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:50,780 a research perspective and for identifying markets and market opportunities. 1007 01:35:50,780 --> 01:35:57,560 And the last thing I think is the most important, the figure shows the areas in various agricultural 1008 01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,460 or open space easements. 1009 01:35:59,820 --> 01:36:05,460 You know, Marin County has a, you know, a beautiful, you know, rural character and landscape 1010 01:36:05,460 --> 01:36:08,980 that's supported by these areas under easement. 1011 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:13,900 Economically viable opportunities for those lands include grazing opportunities for livestock 1012 01:36:13,900 --> 01:36:20,220 like sheep that provides other co-benefits for, you know, vegetation management, wildfire, 1013 01:36:20,220 --> 01:36:25,320 risk mitigation and other habitat and environmental benefits from the 1014 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:25,540 lands. 1015 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:30,040 So those are the four things that I wanted to highlight, there's a number of other 1016 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:34,780 opportunities that are laid out in the report, but the key thing is the, is the 1017 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:40,220 aggregation access to local markets and then opportunities within coordinating 1018 01:36:40,220 --> 01:36:44,420 within the broader regional economy for cheap and more production. 1019 01:36:45,460 --> 01:36:48,180 Joe, if I missed anything, please let me know if I missed an important 1020 01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:53,560 stuff from our folks that we spoke with, you did a great job, you did a great job, 1021 01:36:53,740 --> 01:36:57,980 condensing a lot of the detailed work and the will report into just some slides here 1022 01:36:57,980 --> 01:36:58,300 today. 1023 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:03,680 We needed to move to keep our time limit there so thank you very much for all your hard 1024 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,680 work and working with me so closely and I want to thank UC Cooper to be extension also 1025 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:12,360 they did some quite a bit of a review of the documents and some of the economic components 1026 01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,980 of it they were very supportive of that so I think with that I think I'll close and see if 1027 01:37:16,980 --> 01:37:19,940 any questions that you might have for us. 1028 01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:21,480 Thank you for the report. 1029 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:22,440 I'll look to my colleagues. 1030 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,880 Any questions or comments, supervisor, co-bar. 1031 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:27,080 Yeah. 1032 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:28,020 Thanks for the report. 1033 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:34,800 So on table three in one of the attachments, you talked about the representative of 1034 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,560 wool prices along the value chain. 1035 01:37:37,060 --> 01:37:44,680 So the Marin Farmgate is $1.20 and then it goes up to the direct market of $24. 1036 01:37:45,140 --> 01:37:52,800 So I guess my question is, like, how much of the marin vol will it can move up to that 1037 01:37:53,940 --> 01:37:58,020 24 dollars, right? Like, like, in terms of the value chain and capture, I'm curious you 1038 01:37:58,020 --> 01:38:02,340 have any thoughts on that? Yeah, thank you supervisor Colbert. So yeah, you got right down to the 1039 01:38:02,340 --> 01:38:06,720 the art of it, and that is, you know, there's the value at the farm, and then capturing the 1040 01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:13,060 value added beyond the farm all the way up to the fire consumer retail price. And so it depends 1041 01:38:13,060 --> 01:38:20,000 on what the product is. I think there's competition in a global industry for wool and the wool 1042 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,600 products. As I explained, when you look at the US in total, a lot of that wool is moving 1043 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:29,620 overseas. It's cheaper to process than bring it back in. So the ability to capture some of that 1044 01:38:29,620 --> 01:38:36,600 value added and then keep the jobs and economic activity that go with it is really dependent on 1045 01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,320 what you're producing and what the market opportunities are. So one of the things that we heard 1046 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:46,140 that I mentioned as an opportunity is the aggregation or the ability to have a bit of 1047 01:38:46,140 --> 01:38:52,620 power to compete in those markets and so local aggregation of wool, which is then 1048 01:38:52,620 --> 01:38:57,880 can be marketed and processed. Maybe that happens within the county, maybe not, but that would 1049 01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:02,740 be an initial step within the supply chain that you can pick up some additional value added. 1050 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:09,040 But I can't tell you that you can go pick up all $23 of that immediately. It's going to depend 1051 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,640 and what the products are. 1052 01:39:10,980 --> 01:39:11,440 All right, thanks. 1053 01:39:11,540 --> 01:39:13,460 So can I ask one quick follow questions? 1054 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:14,420 Yeah, sure. 1055 01:39:15,220 --> 01:39:18,920 So the answer to me, the answer to the question may 1056 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,120 you just offered, but I was curious. 1057 01:39:22,980 --> 01:39:25,120 So given the disparity in trying to move, 1058 01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,000 figure out how to move, is that the smallest intervention 1059 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,880 that could maturely increase the average rent price? 1060 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,500 Was there any other options, anything else? 1061 01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,560 I think it's difficult to move the needle on an average 1062 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:44,840 will price. It's identifying those the markets that you can sell and the consumers that have those 1063 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,580 demands. And we did go through and identify some of those in the report. But there are these 1064 01:39:49,580 --> 01:39:54,100 kind of niche industries. But there are some opportunities in the industrial space like Joe was talking 1065 01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:59,980 about where more of the natural fibers are being demanded there. So are there opportunities to capitalize on 1066 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,820 Some of those local markets, that's where you can get better price than what you're getting in the global market. 1067 01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:08,580 Thank you. 1068 01:40:08,780 --> 01:40:09,720 Supervisor Molten Peters. 1069 01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:11,660 Yeah, thank you very much. 1070 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:17,420 Joe, every time you come and bring us something new, I always want to counter with, I have an idea for that. 1071 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,020 So your local, your local markets. 1072 01:40:20,900 --> 01:40:29,060 I wonder if we could talk a little more about, you've got some wonderful women in the business of wool products. 1073 01:40:29,060 --> 01:40:34,840 And that's where I was going, is we, you know, Marin County has marine layer that started 1074 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:41,900 here and we've got Margaret O'Leary that started in the city, but here and they all focus 1075 01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:43,880 on organic wool products. 1076 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:51,080 And so I'm just wondering how are we cultivating just the local companies to purchase the 1077 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:51,340 wool? 1078 01:40:52,660 --> 01:40:52,900 Yeah. 1079 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:59,760 When I started working on this project, it just more and more was opening up about opportunities 1080 01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:04,620 and traction and things that we can do, and other partners and collaborations that could happen. 1081 01:41:05,340 --> 01:41:07,440 And then I have to bring up Rebecca Burgess again. 1082 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:13,620 She's very connected with a lot of the local people that you described. 1083 01:41:14,260 --> 01:41:20,000 So to build those connections and I think the hardest part for me though is 1084 01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:26,220 the infrastructure that's needed to bring it more locally or regionally is just expensive. 1085 01:41:26,220 --> 01:41:30,420 The infrastructure that exists in the United States is in other states. 1086 01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:35,260 So anyway, to have something here, Rebecca and I were dreaming of like a campus where 1087 01:41:35,260 --> 01:41:39,860 we could have a scour and a Carter and some research and development and you write all 1088 01:41:39,860 --> 01:41:44,940 those connections of local producers with some organic, wonderful, high quality things. 1089 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:51,240 There's so much excitement and opportunities, but it's just harder to put together because 1090 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:58,460 of the expense of the equipment, and it would not be a marine island as Duncan was saying. 1091 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:04,820 A really good set of infrastructure, I could really turn around all of California. 1092 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:10,920 I think the most wool in the United States, the Texas, so the wool is here. 1093 01:42:11,260 --> 01:42:15,520 The quality is wonderful. We have lots of different types that could do different things. 1094 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:22,260 So, with that interest in organic, with that interest in natural fibers, with interest in green 1095 01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:28,400 textile type of things are building. I see so much there, but it's just getting it moving, getting 1096 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:33,900 it lifted and getting the funding to build the structure in the right place, and then not having 1097 01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:41,820 people duplicate things, but to work with other regional partners to build all those steps and pieces. 1098 01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:45,780 So we could grow it here, reduce it here, process it here, 1099 01:42:46,060 --> 01:42:48,740 keep it here, and turn it into really high quality things, 1100 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:53,020 which is $24 a pound that Mr. Supervisor Colbert just brought up. 1101 01:42:54,020 --> 01:42:57,260 So the potential is there, but I keep, we need to keep talking 1102 01:42:57,260 --> 01:42:58,540 about this as well. 1103 01:42:59,140 --> 01:43:00,580 I'm going to just hop in here. 1104 01:43:00,860 --> 01:43:05,120 Yes, I think there's an element here when I want to appreciate our colleagues 1105 01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,720 this morning coming from the cooperative, and we have some good conversations this morning 1106 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:13,540 at the reception about this exact nature of how can we really capture that 1107 01:43:13,540 --> 01:43:18,400 value at and I just remind both the team here today in the board that we have 1108 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,940 an economic vitality roadmap that's going to be underway and this is going to be 1109 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:28,160 a central part of the work is ultimately looking at the report that Joe and the 1110 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:32,660 team produced this morning the boards accepting receiving and then looking at 1111 01:43:33,940 --> 01:43:39,020 specifically Westmaren and Ag communities and what can we do to really help lift up 1112 01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:46,260 where there's value added opportunities may be, whether it's wool or cheese or dairy or 1113 01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:52,100 other fiber, you know, or the ways that we can work on that and so Joe and Team are part of 1114 01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:57,860 that group and my conversation this morning with the UC Cooper of Team is, you know, is there 1115 01:43:57,860 --> 01:44:02,640 any further in-depth case studies we can look at other communities throughout the United 1116 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:08,020 states that is looking to do some of this work where we can make sure that this industry thrives. 1117 01:44:09,340 --> 01:44:15,380 That makes a lot of sense, Derek. I mean, we're talking about potentially a premium product here. 1118 01:44:15,420 --> 01:44:20,400 I come from a consumer district in Western Rune. There's a producer district, so I'm always thinking 1119 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:28,180 how can we be better consumers locally. It reminds me a little of organic daring that came in 1120 01:44:28,180 --> 01:44:32,080 And I would be interested in how that whole industry took off. 1121 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,120 They needed different equipment and practices. 1122 01:44:34,420 --> 01:44:35,880 But somehow we got that going. 1123 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:38,900 So I hope we can look into it. 1124 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,860 It seems like it's got potential on. 1125 01:44:40,860 --> 01:44:43,480 Thank you both, Alison, and Duncan for your report. 1126 01:44:45,480 --> 01:44:46,260 Supervisor Rodoni? 1127 01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:47,960 Thank you. 1128 01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:49,200 Thank you for the report. 1129 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:55,060 I was wondering if you could comment on, if you're able to determine the scale 1130 01:44:55,060 --> 01:44:57,640 that we need to actually build the wool industry. 1131 01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,680 Is there some magic number? 1132 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,820 As I know we're competing on the world market and when you look at Australia and New Zealand, for 1133 01:45:04,820 --> 01:45:11,260 an example, a huge number of sheep on the ground there. Just wondered from Marin and Sonoma, 1134 01:45:11,420 --> 01:45:18,720 if anyone could take a look and say you need to be this big to be functional and start manufacturing 1135 01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:26,880 your own products here. I did have a conversation with Rebecca early on and to have a scour and 1136 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,320 and to have a more processing happen here, 1137 01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:31,040 you're exactly right as a redone. 1138 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:37,320 You need to have 400,000 pounds of bull to move through that. 1139 01:45:37,940 --> 01:45:41,420 So we used to do 330,000 pounds here in Marin alone, 1140 01:45:42,060 --> 01:45:46,320 but even in a lot of the other North Bay through Mendocino 1141 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,240 and further, there's plenty to take care of that. 1142 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:53,800 So yeah, that's the magic number. 1143 01:45:54,140 --> 01:45:56,620 And if it were here, it would probably take 15 full time 1144 01:45:56,620 --> 01:46:02,140 equivalent people with special trained type skills, and then there is a water component 1145 01:46:02,140 --> 01:46:06,180 that you need to wash the wool, that takes electricity, but we could do solar. 1146 01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:12,560 There's some beautiful kind of poster-gile things in my head, but it's potentials there, 1147 01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,900 but that's the number. Maybe Duncan has some others. 1148 01:46:16,260 --> 01:46:23,680 I think you hit the important points, and the cost of running goes down with the larger facility 1149 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:25,300 and more throughput through it. 1150 01:46:25,820 --> 01:46:27,660 So that's back to this aggregation concept. 1151 01:46:27,700 --> 01:46:29,720 As looking at Marin as an island, 1152 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,480 is probably not the right way to think about it. 1153 01:46:31,540 --> 01:46:33,000 It's thinking about those specialty markets 1154 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:34,760 and then how to partner more broadly 1155 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,160 with some of the regional opportunities. 1156 01:46:36,460 --> 01:46:38,360 And as part of this work, we did get out and meet 1157 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,420 with work that's going on in Lake County 1158 01:46:40,420 --> 01:46:42,620 and other areas that you see is engaged in. 1159 01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,560 And so there is work on some of those next steps 1160 01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,360 about what's the return on investment from a facility 1161 01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:49,720 like that, where would it be? 1162 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:51,320 Is it a good business opportunity? 1163 01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:55,740 And that ultimately comes back to questions that we were just discussing, which is really like what 1164 01:46:55,740 --> 01:47:00,860 consumers want, and you know, can you produce the products that they're willing to pay a premium 1165 01:47:00,860 --> 01:47:03,520 for to support the growing industry? 1166 01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:04,340 Here. 1167 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:06,160 Okay. 1168 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:13,920 One last little element to is that third revenue stream of sheet grazing for grazing contract, 1169 01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:17,940 that really makes it a very successful type of business. 1170 01:47:17,940 --> 01:47:34,080 So if we could I think we could work there with the need for a fire fuel reduction, there's so many places that need it cheaper, easy to move in those areas, that I see I see some early wins on, but that'll take some my efforts with the industry folks in the fire folks, I think. 1171 01:47:34,700 --> 01:47:40,320 I guess in this question for you, Joe, how can we help you take the next steps in this process? 1172 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,600 I appreciate this first step allowing me to do this study. 1173 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,880 And it did reveal some some some opportunities. 1174 01:47:48,540 --> 01:47:54,580 So just know I won't drop it from here and I've become friends with all the wool industry. 1175 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,200 Please know I haven't lost track of the deiries. 1176 01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,140 I would love to see more deiries come in too. 1177 01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,260 And I just saw Andy, nausea, Reese walk in. 1178 01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:07,100 We'd love to see more fruit vegetable and all those kind of upper crores in too. 1179 01:48:08,020 --> 01:48:09,940 So, and then I just see Vince Trotter over there. 1180 01:48:09,940 --> 01:48:13,580 He's been helping me quite a bit about identifying what can we do and where can we do? 1181 01:48:13,580 --> 01:48:19,660 it and is that work that so all of these are exciting new things that I just need to keep working on 1182 01:48:19,660 --> 01:48:25,860 and I'll let you know when I need the next economic vitality strategic plan bit of money to work on 1183 01:48:25,860 --> 01:48:32,840 something that is to make sure that agriculture is robustly included in that report. It's definitely not 1184 01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:43,560 the top 10 economic drivers in Marin, but it's such a part of our identity, it's such a part of our 1185 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:48,900 culture. So we have to connect a few dots here. And this is one of them I think that has potential. 1186 01:48:49,060 --> 01:48:55,020 That's why I kind of started to run on that treadmill. And a lot of people have joined me. So 1187 01:48:55,020 --> 01:48:59,820 I'll let you know when I need my next little help but I'm working on it. And a lot of people already 1188 01:48:59,820 --> 01:49:05,800 want this report too. And I think there'll be a lot of interest in it. There are some constraints, no doubt, 1189 01:49:06,660 --> 01:49:12,100 but it's exciting to think about natural fibers and set of plastics. And other really more natural 1190 01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:17,660 more suited to Marin type of identity. Yeah. Supervisor 1191 01:49:17,660 --> 01:49:21,040 second. Yeah, who do comments? Yeah, and then we'll go to public 1192 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,920 comment. Thank you so much for this report, all of you, and I, you 1193 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,700 know, I think it's so important to talk about the diversity and the 1194 01:49:28,700 --> 01:49:33,520 niche part of it and how the wolf it's into with the grazing and with 1195 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:38,340 the meat. And it brings to mind earlier in August, I had the opportunity to 1196 01:49:38,340 --> 01:49:59,260 I was in Iowa and had the opportunity to attend a clean water festival with music with family activities and with a lot of speakers talking about the monoculture environment there and how to break that apart to address the highest cancer rates in the nation because of water issues and so I mean I think I appreciate 1197 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:14,760 That you bring these niche projects forward and really highlight them, because once you lose them, it's insurmountable to bring back that diversity and those smaller projects that come together. 1198 01:50:14,900 --> 01:50:27,280 And we hear about the importance of this from, you know, from our ranchers on our cattle farms as well of like, what are the other products that they can sell in addition to the grazing and to be a visit. 1199 01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:32,980 You know, is it tourism, is it experiences, is it can't be an opportunities, 1200 01:50:35,340 --> 01:50:37,220 it all is required 1201 01:50:37,220 --> 01:50:43,620 in order to make agriculture economically viable, so thank you so much for bringing 1202 01:50:43,620 --> 01:50:49,480 this forward and for raising the consciousness about the opportunities to purchase 1203 01:50:49,480 --> 01:50:59,280 will to support our local shops and agricultural vendors who are really trying to make West 1204 01:51:00,220 --> 01:51:06,560 Marin sustainable, not only environmentally, but financially sustainable as well, so thanks 1205 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:07,680 so much for all of you. 1206 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:09,640 Thank you, Supervisor Sackett. 1207 01:51:09,780 --> 01:51:12,880 I am so glad I wore my 100% wool suit today. 1208 01:51:13,940 --> 01:51:17,500 Without we're going to open it up for a public comment, thank you for the great report. 1209 01:51:17,500 --> 01:51:20,120 Is there any public comment here in the chambers? 1210 01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,300 Not seen any, we'll go ahead and go online. 1211 01:51:32,750 --> 01:51:34,690 Stephanie Wilkins, you may now unmute. 1212 01:51:36,370 --> 01:51:40,150 Hi, thank you for this presentation and for giving me a moment. 1213 01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:42,570 My name is Stephanie Wilkes. 1214 01:51:42,910 --> 01:51:46,370 I was graciously invited to give input on this report. 1215 01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:51,030 I'm a local sheep share, a hoof trimmer, and an independent researcher and consultant. 1216 01:51:51,090 --> 01:51:53,890 And I am working with the group in Lake County that was referenced. 1217 01:51:53,890 --> 01:52:06,650 I just want to thank you for bringing this up, but also to point out that counties can really be life-changing in the role of a rancher's bottom line. 1218 01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:20,650 So in addition to consumer materials, counties actually consume a lot of weed mats, air filters, and 95 materials that are increasingly made with combustible renewable fibers like wool. 1219 01:52:20,650 --> 01:52:25,830 And our state, with SB 707, starting to roll out, 1220 01:52:25,890 --> 01:52:28,470 that's our extended producer responsibility legislation, 1221 01:52:28,910 --> 01:52:33,070 which also has MGHD, a mission, stuff coming in round two, 1222 01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:36,810 that kind of supports more local manufacturing is important. 1223 01:52:38,250 --> 01:52:41,290 And so, to Supervisor Covera at talking about prices, 1224 01:52:41,390 --> 01:52:44,330 that demand pull from the county side could be huge. 1225 01:52:45,150 --> 01:52:47,070 And to Supervisor Multon Peters, 1226 01:52:47,330 --> 01:52:50,110 I wanna say that I can't speak about all of the work 1227 01:52:50,110 --> 01:52:54,870 We're doing with local brands, but I can assure you that we are definitely working with some 1228 01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:57,650 of the local brands that you mentioned to increase the demand poll. 1229 01:52:57,950 --> 01:52:59,770 So thank you, Joe, for doing this work. 1230 01:53:00,270 --> 01:53:04,610 Thank you for elevating this topic, and I appreciate you all. 1231 01:53:04,830 --> 01:53:05,730 Thank you. 1232 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:09,760 Call and user, too. 1233 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,180 You may now unmute. 1234 01:53:15,060 --> 01:53:16,420 Please, mute the speaker. 1235 01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:23,000 To the call and user, it sounds like you're using a voice distortion or voice alteration tool. 1236 01:53:23,540 --> 01:53:31,660 If that is needed for appropriate accommodation, such as text to speech, I encourage you to reach out to our clerk so we can make sure that. 1237 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:39,660 I'm going to give you one more second. If you can turn off whatever voice alteration tool you're using, as long as it's not necessary. 1238 01:53:40,300 --> 01:53:46,940 But if you continue to use it, we find that disruptive to our meeting and we'll not be allowed to continue. We're going to go and give you one more chance. 1239 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,240 Call in user too. You may now unmute. 1240 01:53:57,590 --> 01:53:59,210 All right. We're going to go ahead and move on. 1241 01:53:59,210 --> 01:54:01,390 Thank you. 1242 01:54:01,870 --> 01:54:03,850 We'll go ahead and close public comment. 1243 01:54:04,770 --> 01:54:10,250 With that, may I have a motion to accept the 2025 crop and livestock report and the 1244 01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:12,610 accompanying sheep and wool market assessment? 1245 01:54:13,130 --> 01:54:14,870 I saw a move. 1246 01:54:14,930 --> 01:54:15,730 Back at? 1247 01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:20,550 We've motion by Supervisor Rodoni, a second by Supervisor Molten Peters, all those in favor. 1248 01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:21,430 Hi. 1249 01:54:22,350 --> 01:54:23,490 Thank you so much for the report. 1250 01:54:27,300 --> 01:54:32,280 We're going to move on to item 9c, which is a sunset review of boards, commissions, and 1251 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,020 committees. 1252 01:54:33,540 --> 01:54:39,240 We've got our team here with Carla Omar and several interns that worked on this. 1253 01:54:39,420 --> 01:54:44,180 Before we go to staff for the presentation, a supervisor, Rodoni, and I have been serving 1254 01:54:44,180 --> 01:54:45,760 on this subcommittee. 1255 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:50,940 Working through this review and like to turn over to supervisor Rodoni, provide some opening 1256 01:54:50,940 --> 01:54:51,440 remarks. 1257 01:54:52,460 --> 01:54:57,040 Thank you, President Luke, and the two of us have been working with staff on this review. 1258 01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,980 And I think the most important thing the emphasize is that 1259 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,900 This is really about good governance and making sure our advisory bodies continue to serve the county and our communities effectively. 1260 01:55:08,580 --> 01:55:14,660 Marine has a long history of community participation through boards, commission committees, and other advisory bodies. 1261 01:55:15,220 --> 01:55:22,760 They provide important expertise, community perspective, and opportunities for residents to participate directly in their government. 1262 01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:32,400 At the same time, these bodies have been created at a different point of time for different purposes and under different operating structures. 1263 01:55:33,220 --> 01:55:42,940 One of the things this process has shown us is the value of periodically stepping back, asking questions whether those structures still make sense. 1264 01:55:43,580 --> 01:55:48,400 This review is not simply about reducing the number of commissions or commit committees. 1265 01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:52,960 It's about, is the body still serving a clear and necessary purpose. 1266 01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,140 Does it currently, because the current structure support that purpose? 1267 01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:03,380 Our members, responsibilities, and staff support, and reporting relationships clear. 1268 01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:08,320 Are there opportunities to strengthen participation, transparency, and effectiveness? 1269 01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:16,840 And where circumstances have changed, is there a better way to accomplish the original purpose? 1270 01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:23,660 The process also also gives us an opportunity to establish clearer and more consistent expectations going forward, 1271 01:56:24,140 --> 01:56:28,880 so that periodic view becomes a part of how we manage our advisory body system, 1272 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,140 rather than something we only undertake after many years. 1273 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:37,140 Ultimately, we ask our members of the public to volunteer their time and expertise. 1274 01:56:37,780 --> 01:56:41,320 I think we have responsibility to make sure they are serving with the infrastructure 1275 01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:48,420 It is a clear purpose, clear expectations, meaningful connection to the work of the county and the board. 1276 01:56:49,060 --> 01:56:53,020 I also want to recognize the significant staff work that has gone into this review. 1277 01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:59,460 Omar and our interns, Hylene, Alexander and Jackie have done tremendous amount of work. 1278 01:56:59,780 --> 01:57:02,820 Friendship amount of the research and detail work behind the effort. 1279 01:57:03,340 --> 01:57:10,860 I want to thank them along with the Commissioners, Liseons, County staff, and community members who participated and provided input. 1280 01:57:10,860 --> 01:57:16,140 I now would like to turn it over to Carla to introduce this and then she'll pass it on to the team. 1281 01:57:16,860 --> 01:57:17,520 Thank you Carla. 1282 01:57:19,460 --> 01:57:20,480 Good morning board members. 1283 01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:27,960 Today we are presenting the findings and recommendations from the county sunset review of boards, commissions and committees. 1284 01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:31,760 This is part of the broader work of the Clerk of the Board office. 1285 01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,720 What we've been doing to strengthen how divisor bodies operate. 1286 01:57:37,340 --> 01:57:43,380 The bigger goal is the effectiveness, sustainability, governance, and good administrative support. 1287 01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:49,880 As Supervisor Rodoni mentioned, this is not simply deciding whether a commission stays or goes. 1288 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:56,760 Omar and our interns were deeply involved in this work, and will present several portions of the analysis today. 1289 01:57:57,460 --> 01:58:00,900 I'll start briefly with the action before the board. Next slide, please. 1290 01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:07,680 Today we are asking the board to receive the Sunset Review and provide direction on the 1291 01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:09,460 bodies identified in the report. 1292 01:58:10,380 --> 01:58:15,220 The recommendations are not all the same, depending on the body's staff may be recommending 1293 01:58:15,220 --> 01:58:21,460 continuation, governance improvements, restructuring or consolidation, additional analysis 1294 01:58:21,460 --> 01:58:23,200 or potential sunset. 1295 01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:30,040 The important point is that some board direction today would begin additional work, not complete 1296 01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:36,300 it. Restructural change is contemplated. Staff may still need to work through legal requirements, 1297 01:58:37,060 --> 01:58:43,380 fiscal impacts, operational considerations, and stakeholder input. Staff would return to the board 1298 01:58:43,380 --> 01:58:49,520 with the appropriate implementation action. We are also recommending the staff return with an 1299 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:55,900 updated resolution establishing an ongoing sunset review cycle. So this becomes a regular 1300 01:58:55,900 --> 01:59:02,180 government's practice rather than a one-time exercise to get some contacts on the scope of the review 1301 01:59:02,180 --> 01:59:03,620 alternative to Alexandria. 1302 01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:11,100 Thank you, Carla. I'll briefly provide an overview of the purpose and scope 1303 01:59:11,100 --> 01:59:17,900 of the review before we discuss how the project evolved. The review applied the sensor review framework 1304 01:59:17,900 --> 01:59:24,140 that the board received and approved on May 19. The framework was designed to consider two things 1305 01:59:24,140 --> 01:59:29,860 together. First, whether an advisory body continues to provide value and second, whether its 1306 01:59:29,860 --> 01:59:31,920 current structure allows it to operate effectively. 1307 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:39,580 19 bodies were formally scheduled for sunset review and 20 bodies were ultimately examined 1308 01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:45,540 through the process because of the relationship between stern advisory functions. These bodies 1309 01:59:45,540 --> 01:59:50,940 vary considerably in their purpose, legal authority, membership and departmental support. 1310 01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,960 So the goal was not to evaluate them as though they were identical. 1311 01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,860 Instead we applied a common set of governance questions while considering 1312 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,060 Each body's unique role. I'll now turn it over to Carla to provide some background on how this work developed. 1313 02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:17,540 The sets of review is not a standalone initiative. It grew out of the county's broader boards and commissions equity and modernization work, which began in 2024. 1314 02:00:18,340 --> 02:00:26,460 Over time that work expanded from looking at recruitment and participation, looking more broadly at how the entire advisory body system functions. 1315 02:00:26,460 --> 02:00:30,480 The easiest way to understand that is to the phases at the project. 1316 02:00:32,260 --> 02:00:37,640 This is the five phase structure that was approved back in 2024. 1317 02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,320 Phase one was to understand our current system. 1318 02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:47,340 We did a need assessment, we did data collection, and we looked at where the gaps existed. 1319 02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:53,800 Then there was Phase two, which was reviewing the existing boards and commissions themselves. 1320 02:00:53,800 --> 02:01:06,740 Essentially, on May 19th, with the approval of the sunset review structure, we were able to close out phase two because now we have a framework to work with. 1321 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:18,860 For phase three, which is largely where we're at now, we're focusing on training, governance standards onboarding and role clarity for commission commissioners and staff liaison. 1322 02:01:18,860 --> 02:01:26,080 And our future phases look more at stronger feedback loops, outreach, and broader community engagement. 1323 02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:28,800 So what changed on May 19th? 1324 02:01:28,940 --> 02:01:35,820 At the May 19th board meeting, the board expanded this work by approving the formal sunset review framework. 1325 02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:43,380 The board also directed staff to return our findings and recommendations, so we could complete the remaining phase two review work. 1326 02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:57,980 Why this matters is that that direction allowed us to connect the sunset review to all of the other improvements already underway, which is by-laws modernization, recruitment improvements, commissioner and liaison training. 1327 02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:04,380 So this is really about creating a more coherent system, rather than looking at each commission and isolation. 1328 02:02:04,380 --> 02:02:09,980 While today's presentation includes recommendations about individual bodies, the 1329 02:02:09,980 --> 02:02:13,540 larger goal is to strengthen the overall advisory body system. 1330 02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,280 I'll now turn it over to Eileen to work through how the review itself was conducted. 1331 02:02:21,490 --> 02:02:21,830 Thank you. 1332 02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:26,810 Our goal was to use a consistent evidence informed process while still recognizing the differences 1333 02:02:26,810 --> 02:02:28,950 among the bodies being reviewed. 1334 02:02:29,830 --> 02:02:34,570 We began with a pre-interview survey competed by staff liaison to establish baseline information 1335 02:02:34,570 --> 02:02:40,690 information about each body. We then review available bylaws and enabling documents, membership 1336 02:02:40,690 --> 02:02:47,170 rosters, vacancies, agendas, minutes, and meeting activity. From there we conducted structured 1337 02:02:47,170 --> 02:02:52,450 structured interviews with staff liaisons using a common interview protocol. The interviews 1338 02:02:52,450 --> 02:02:56,830 are specifically important because they gave us context that was not always apparent from 1339 02:02:56,830 --> 02:03:02,130 the documents alone. The three interns partner directly with the clerk of the board staff 1340 02:03:02,130 --> 02:03:07,430 on background research, interviews, synthesis, and development of recommendation options. 1341 02:03:08,430 --> 02:03:12,750 Across the review, we considered legal authority, activity, and quorum, 1342 02:03:12,970 --> 02:03:18,190 public engagement, potential overlap, operational burden, alignment with county priorities, 1343 02:03:18,530 --> 02:03:22,870 and governance effectiveness. We also considered equity throughout the process, 1344 02:03:23,190 --> 02:03:27,970 including whether existing or proposed structured support meaningful community representation. 1345 02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:33,030 I'll turn it over to Jacqueline Do Matt to highlight some of what we heard and found. 1346 02:03:38,810 --> 02:03:39,490 Thank you. 1347 02:03:39,910 --> 02:03:43,990 One of the clearest findings from the review was that the value of these bodies cannot be measured 1348 02:03:43,990 --> 02:03:48,050 simply by how frequently they meet or how many members of the public attend each meeting. 1349 02:03:49,310 --> 02:03:53,330 The interviews and the document review identified several examples of continuing public 1350 02:03:53,330 --> 02:03:54,650 and advisory value. 1351 02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:59,650 The Library Commission provides oversight or related to measure A and measure B funding, 1352 02:03:59,650 --> 02:04:04,510 while connecting library branches with their communities, the Parks and Open Space Commission 1353 02:04:04,510 --> 02:04:10,830 advises on parks, open space, trails, grants, acquisitions, and related county programs. 1354 02:04:11,650 --> 02:04:15,670 The Behavioral Health Board provides community input, identify service gaps, 1355 02:04:16,050 --> 02:04:18,850 conduct site visits, and develop system of care recommendations. 1356 02:04:19,870 --> 02:04:24,470 The Baliness Lagoon Advisory Council provides a form for Interagency Coordination, 1357 02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:30,250 Environmental Stewardship, Climate Resilience, and Stewardship of an important county-owned coastal resource. 1358 02:04:31,410 --> 02:04:39,750 And the Fish and Wildlife Commission and Women's Commission provide value through grants, scholarships, advocacy, outreach, partnerships, and community-focused initiatives. 1359 02:04:40,590 --> 02:04:49,450 These examples helped reinforce an important theme. Most reviewed bodies continue to provide an identifiable benefit, even when opportunities exist to improve how they operate. 1360 02:04:49,450 --> 02:04:54,070 With that important context, I'll turn it over to Omar to walk through the recommendations 1361 02:04:54,070 --> 02:04:56,810 requiring structural action or additional review. 1362 02:04:59,610 --> 02:04:59,970 Thank you. 1363 02:05:00,370 --> 02:05:15,310 The first structural recommendation concerns the alcohol and drug advisory board. Staff recommends developing a consolidation plan with the behavioral health board while preserving substance use expertise and community representation. 1364 02:05:16,210 --> 02:05:27,010 The review found that the behavioral health board already has a subcommittee performing similar functions, which creates an opportunity to better integrate alcohol and other drug responsibilities. 1365 02:05:27,010 --> 02:05:30,530 with in the county's broader behavioral health structure. 1366 02:05:31,350 --> 02:05:33,030 If the board supports this direction, 1367 02:05:33,610 --> 02:05:37,290 staff and county council would develop the details of the transition, 1368 02:05:38,090 --> 02:05:40,890 including membership statutory requirements, 1369 02:05:41,570 --> 02:05:45,070 and how existing responsibilities and community representation 1370 02:05:45,070 --> 02:05:46,970 could be preserved. 1371 02:05:49,620 --> 02:05:53,520 For the health council of Marin staff recommends evaluating the legal 1372 02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:58,100 and fiscal feasibility of sunset and returning to the board 1373 02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:00,340 with an implementation and transition plan. 1374 02:06:01,020 --> 02:06:06,980 The review identified recurring quorum and meeting challenges, as well as very broad 1375 02:06:06,980 --> 02:06:12,040 scope that make it difficult for the council to establish priorities and sustain a focus 1376 02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:12,940 work program. 1377 02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:18,220 At the same time, the council has served as an important public health advisory role. 1378 02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:23,460 For that reason, the recommendation is not simply to discontinue the council without further 1379 02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:30,380 work, additional analysis would identify how meaningful public health input and community 1380 02:06:30,380 --> 02:06:35,500 parts of the patient could be preserved through an appropriate structure as a console 1381 02:06:35,500 --> 02:06:36,180 sunset. 1382 02:06:38,900 --> 02:06:45,060 For CSA-20, Indian Valley, Domingo Canyon, staff recommends evaluating the legal and 1383 02:06:45,060 --> 02:06:51,480 fiscal feasibility of sunset and returning with an implementation plan. The review indicates 1384 02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:57,480 that the CSA's original purpose appears to have been substantially fulfilled, recent advisory 1385 02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:04,460 activity has been limited, and there may be overlap with existing parks and open space functions. 1386 02:07:05,220 --> 02:07:12,060 Before any sunset action could occur, however, staff would need to address restricted funds, 1387 02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:19,300 reserves, assets, service obligations, and any applicable legal and special district requirements. 1388 02:07:21,380 --> 02:07:37,120 Integrated Pest Management Commission for the Integrated Pest Management Commission, the recommendation is to further evaluate the legal and fiscal feasibility of sunsetting or consolidating the body and return with an implementation plan. 1389 02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:48,400 The review identified questions about whether the Commission's current structure remains the most effective model and whether some functions may overlap with existing county operations. 1390 02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:55,420 Any future recommendation would need to identify how transparency, public participation, 1391 02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:03,860 and the county's integrated as management responsibilities would continue under a different model. 1392 02:08:07,940 --> 02:08:16,580 For six additional bodies, CSA's 1618-33, the Kentfield Planning Advisory Board, 1393 02:08:16,580 --> 02:08:25,260 the strawberry design review board and the Tamil Pai's design review board, we are not recommending an immediate consolidation or sunset. 1394 02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:37,120 Instead, the staff recommends additional analysis of restructuring or shared advisory models, including potential alignment with other governing bodies. 1395 02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:47,700 The review identified opportunities to streamline certain advisory functions, but these bodies also provide localized community knowledge and participation. 1396 02:08:48,820 --> 02:09:01,020 Further analysis were therefore considered legal discourse requirements, operational impacts, and most importantly, how localized community representation would be preserved. 1397 02:09:03,590 --> 02:09:11,970 Recommendations to continue, and important takeaway from this review is that most of the bodies we examined are recommended to continue. 1398 02:09:12,770 --> 02:09:16,790 The Library Commission and the Women's Commission are recommended for retention. 1399 02:09:17,870 --> 02:09:22,730 Seven additional bodies are recommended to continue with targeted governance improvements. 1400 02:09:22,730 --> 02:09:38,370 The Baleena Lagoon Advisory Council, Civic Center, Conservancy, CSA-6, CSA-29, Fish and Wildlife Commission, Parks and Open Space Commission, and the County of Marin Youth Commission. 1401 02:09:39,530 --> 02:09:45,930 When we refer to governance improvements, we mean targeted changes that strengthen how a body operates. 1402 02:09:45,930 --> 02:09:54,630 For example, updated bylaws, clear membership, or attention provisions, stronger onboarding, 1403 02:09:54,990 --> 02:09:59,650 improved public engagement, or more consistent work planning and reporting. 1404 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:08,140 The recommendation is to preserve the core purpose of these bodies while addressing the operational issues identified through the review. 1405 02:10:10,550 --> 02:10:19,810 The review also highlighted an opportunity to move away from evaluating over advisory bodies only when a problem arises. 1406 02:10:19,810 --> 02:10:27,530 Staff recommends establishing a recurring sunset review cycle and a regular work plan reporting cadence. 1407 02:10:28,050 --> 02:10:34,830 A recurring process would allow the county to periodically confirm legal authority, purpose, activity, 1408 02:10:35,710 --> 02:10:40,250 vacancies, alignment with county priorities and continuing community value. 1409 02:10:40,970 --> 02:10:46,850 It would also create an opportunity to identify governance concerns earlier and connect the review process 1410 02:10:46,850 --> 02:10:52,270 with recruitment by laws modernization and commissioner and staff liaison support. 1411 02:10:52,830 --> 02:10:58,670 The goal is to make sunset review part of an ongoing governance practice rather than a one-time 1412 02:10:58,670 --> 02:10:59,650 exercise. 1413 02:11:03,050 --> 02:11:07,590 Recommendation and next steps I'll close with the action we are requesting today 1414 02:11:07,590 --> 02:11:14,430 and what would happen following board direction. Staff recommends that the board receive the sunset 1415 02:11:14,430 --> 02:11:18,490 review and provide direction regarding the continuation, 1416 02:11:18,950 --> 02:11:23,690 modification, restructuring, consolidation, further review, 1417 02:11:24,050 --> 02:11:26,530 or sunset of the bodies identified in the report. 1418 02:11:27,130 --> 02:11:29,630 We are also asking the board to direct staff 1419 02:11:29,630 --> 02:11:31,870 to return with an updated resolution, 1420 02:11:31,930 --> 02:11:34,490 establishing an ongoing sunset review schedule 1421 02:11:34,490 --> 02:11:36,990 for all county advisory bodies. 1422 02:11:37,410 --> 02:11:40,390 The recommendations requiring additional analysis. 1423 02:11:41,030 --> 02:11:43,030 Today's direction would authorize staff 1424 02:11:43,030 --> 02:11:49,010 proceed with that work and return to the board before final implementation actions are taken. 1425 02:11:50,150 --> 02:11:55,410 Next steps, following today's direction, staff will translate the board's decision into 1426 02:11:55,410 --> 02:12:02,090 body-specific implementation plans. We will continue coordinating with affected department, 1427 02:12:02,590 --> 02:12:07,830 excuse me, county council, advisory body leadership, and stakeholders where appropriate. 1428 02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:12,710 At the same time, we will continue the broader governance modernization work already 1429 02:12:12,710 --> 02:12:18,570 underway, including by-laws modernization, staff liaison support, commission or training, 1430 02:12:18,990 --> 02:12:24,730 recruitment, improvements, and stronger reporting practices where formal action is required 1431 02:12:24,730 --> 02:12:30,130 staff will return to the board with the appropriate resolutions, ordinances, transition, plan, 1432 02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:37,150 and progress updates. Ultimately, the goal is to preserve meaningful civic participation while 1433 02:12:37,150 --> 02:12:43,790 improving clarity, accountability, equity, and long-term sustainability across the county's advisory 1434 02:12:43,790 --> 02:12:48,810 body system. That concludes our presentation and we are available for questions. Thank you. 1435 02:12:50,490 --> 02:12:56,370 Thank you so much, Carla Omar and the whole team. We'll start with just some questions from 1436 02:12:56,370 --> 02:12:58,810 the board who wants to go first. 1437 02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:10,880 Questions and then we'll go to public comment and have 1438 02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:21,400 everyone has done on this. A question regarding CSA-29 for Paradise K and perhaps also CSA-6 1439 02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:28,420 in Mary's District, Billionist Creek. But I see that you've held those out separate from the 1440 02:13:28,420 --> 02:13:40,860 other CSAs. And as I look up the mission, Paradise K is largely a CSA for dredging for their 1441 02:13:40,860 --> 02:13:47,400 involved other properties. And so the reason I'm asking this question is that the suggestion 1442 02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:55,380 has been made to, I think, appropriately to suggest that the other CSAs, as well as some of our 1443 02:13:55,380 --> 02:14:01,860 design review boards, be viewed potentially for linkage to our planning commission because of 1444 02:14:01,860 --> 02:14:07,120 the land use issues that they address. And so I just wondered if you could explain why the other two 1445 02:14:07,120 --> 02:14:10,520 CSAs were held out separate from that. 1446 02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:14,060 I'll just add that CSA6 is a dredging. 1447 02:14:14,260 --> 02:14:15,380 Is it only dredging? 1448 02:14:15,860 --> 02:14:16,280 Okay, right now. 1449 02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:19,540 And so is that the reason they would be suggested 1450 02:14:19,540 --> 02:14:21,300 to go to Parks and Open Space? 1451 02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:23,040 And maybe I'm getting too into the weeds. 1452 02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,000 This is all part of the future review. 1453 02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:27,340 But I'm just looking at the way you group them. 1454 02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:30,600 So, okay, Omar, I want to give it a shot. 1455 02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:33,560 Or should I just not ask that question. 1456 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:41,380 We were looking to merge them into Parks and Open space. 1457 02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:48,300 However, during the review process, we defined that they have very specific functions. 1458 02:14:49,140 --> 02:14:54,840 So that's why we're also recommending that we review them even further and coordination with Parks and Open space. 1459 02:14:55,060 --> 02:14:56,960 The staff liaison and county console. 1460 02:14:57,740 --> 02:14:59,980 Okay. Okay. I accept it. 1461 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:16,940 Is a good answer. And would just also comment that I appreciate the designer viewboard discussion also. They are certainly valued sources of local input and perspective, as you said. So I think they're valuable to maintain in some fashion. 1462 02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:28,960 Last question has to do with the health council. And I know I'll look forward to reading their report and how we end up evaluating them because I do think they've surfaced some emerging issues. 1463 02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:39,740 And I don't know that we have another mechanism for that although we might in public health anyway, I appreciate your value and want to know more. Thank you. 1464 02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:41,140 Additional questions. 1465 02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:49,800 Not seeing you right now. I know we'll certainly have some comments and maybe some deliberations comes back. So we're going to go to public comment on this. 1466 02:15:49,940 --> 02:15:53,100 We'll start here in the chambers. Is there any public comment on this? 1467 02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:54,080 and said, are you a police? 1468 02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:55,060 Come on up. 1469 02:16:01,710 --> 02:16:06,150 I Roberta Antis from the Health Council of Marin, like a bad penny, you can't get rid of. 1470 02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:11,410 I've looked over the evaluation criteria, and I know that one of the issues for the 1471 02:16:11,410 --> 02:16:12,470 health council was quorum. 1472 02:16:13,070 --> 02:16:17,750 We have had quorum issues, and that was because, in a very short period of time, we lost 1473 02:16:17,750 --> 02:16:18,430 four members. 1474 02:16:18,850 --> 02:16:23,870 Unfortunately, our founder, Cindy Ross, passed away, then we lost two people who termed out 1475 02:16:23,870 --> 02:16:25,590 and another person to health issues. 1476 02:16:25,590 --> 02:16:32,570 In the meantime, we have added two excellent new people, and we have two people who have applied just waiting to see if we still exist. 1477 02:16:33,070 --> 02:16:35,670 So we're reconstituting our council. 1478 02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:41,590 When we feel or kind of having a renaissance just as you're thinking about something else, so we hope you'll keep us. 1479 02:16:42,670 --> 02:16:45,330 One of the other concerns was the broadness of our scope. 1480 02:16:45,870 --> 02:16:47,610 Personally, I've never felt it was a problem. 1481 02:16:48,110 --> 02:16:52,510 We've always had our biennial goals defined clearly, and we've always met them. 1482 02:16:52,510 --> 02:16:58,110 And but if the council, if the board feels that we should narrow that or change that, we're 1483 02:16:58,110 --> 02:17:02,870 open to any kind of guidance you might have to offer us, we're on that or any other issue. 1484 02:17:04,630 --> 02:17:08,530 We have read written our bylaws to be more consistent with other boards and commissions. 1485 02:17:08,930 --> 02:17:14,270 We've also read written our interview process and we have an excellent staff and liaison support. 1486 02:17:14,550 --> 02:17:18,810 And if you haven't let our minutes by Loretta Rogers, I wish I hope that you do because they're excellent. 1487 02:17:18,810 --> 02:17:20,970 and she's here today, she's an excellent secretary. 1488 02:17:21,930 --> 02:17:24,890 So they're like a little history of our council. 1489 02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:26,550 We're productive. 1490 02:17:26,890 --> 02:17:28,210 In the last two and a half years, 1491 02:17:29,130 --> 02:17:32,630 we have resubmitted three heavily researched papers. 1492 02:17:33,210 --> 02:17:35,290 One of them was on novel forms of air pollution. 1493 02:17:36,190 --> 02:17:37,850 One of them was on the access to health care, 1494 02:17:38,010 --> 02:17:39,150 which you've just got today. 1495 02:17:39,850 --> 02:17:41,690 And the other one was in the form of a letter 1496 02:17:41,690 --> 02:17:45,730 on the cessation of sales for tobacco and nicotine products 1497 02:17:45,730 --> 02:17:51,950 with Dr. Jeremiah Mark is using in his presentations in different municipalities, and he's having 1498 02:17:51,950 --> 02:17:57,370 an effect. So we're one cog in that wheel. If our biennial, oops, I'm sorry, I'm over. 1499 02:17:57,850 --> 02:18:03,030 If our biennial report looks thin, it's because we spent the last two years learning HHS's 1500 02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:07,810 initiatives, and our paper was a byproduct of that. 1501 02:18:07,890 --> 02:18:12,830 You can wrap up, please. Thank you. Okay. Yes. Anyway, I hope that you'll consider us carefully 1502 02:18:12,830 --> 02:18:17,090 in more details so that you can understand us a little bit more than the survey might have 1503 02:18:17,090 --> 02:18:17,310 offered. 1504 02:18:17,610 --> 02:18:19,730 Thank you. 1505 02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:22,310 Any other not seen any here in the chambers? 1506 02:18:23,350 --> 02:18:24,610 We'll go online. 1507 02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:33,680 Suzanne Canner, you may now unmute. 1508 02:18:38,180 --> 02:18:43,000 My name is Suzanne Canner and I'm chair of the Alcohol and Drug Advisory Board. 1509 02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:48,200 First, I'd like to thank the Review Board for its transparency and careful 1510 02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:50,480 consideration of its recommendation. 1511 02:18:50,480 --> 02:19:00,380 As many of you may remember in 2022 there was an effort to consolidate the Behavioral Health Board and the Alcohol and Drug Advisory Board. 1512 02:19:00,980 --> 02:19:05,900 That proposal was strongly opposed by our board and members of the community. 1513 02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:11,520 Our board members bring a unique and important perspective to this work. 1514 02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:19,180 Many have been deeply affected by substance use disorder, including the loss of family members and loved ones. 1515 02:19:19,180 --> 02:19:27,760 They bring lived experience, knowledge, and a deep commitment to improving prevention, treatment, and recovery services in Marin. 1516 02:19:28,720 --> 02:19:37,020 Marin is considered as one of the healthiest counties in California, yet alcohol and drug abuse remain a serious concern. 1517 02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:44,180 We believe that makes it particularly important to preserve a strong and distinct voice for substance use disorder. 1518 02:19:44,180 --> 02:19:49,680 As the same time, we recognize the value of working more closely with the behavioral board, 1519 02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:55,720 and we've already begun to do that. Our two boards are currently working together 1520 02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:59,980 on a countywide summit. The need for the summit grew out of more than a year. 1521 02:20:08,200 --> 02:20:29,980 We invite the behavioral health board to join us, giving our two boards an opportunity to work together and see what we can accomplish. We've also agreed to conduct future site visits together, giving our boards another opportunity to work together, while gaining a better understanding of what we can do. 1522 02:20:29,980 --> 02:20:37,340 programs and resources. We believe this collaboration should be allowed to develop and the 1523 02:20:37,340 --> 02:20:44,420 evaluated before decisions are made about consolidation. Collaboration and integration do not 1524 02:20:44,420 --> 02:20:52,200 necessarily require consolidation. Most importantly, if the county moves forward with further 1525 02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:58,780 analysis or development of a consolidation plan, we ask that the alcohol and drug advisory board 1526 02:20:58,780 --> 02:21:02,220 be actively involved in that process from the beginning. 1527 02:21:03,140 --> 02:21:08,600 We want to be part of the conversation about how best to strengthen services while preserving 1528 02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:11,680 substance use expertise with experience. 1529 02:21:11,980 --> 02:21:14,800 And we need to come in to do rapid analysis. 1530 02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:16,480 Thank you. 1531 02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:17,500 I apologize. 1532 02:21:17,820 --> 02:21:21,540 It did give you an extra time and thank you for your service, particularly as chair of that 1533 02:21:21,540 --> 02:21:22,080 board. 1534 02:21:22,860 --> 02:21:23,360 And feel free. 1535 02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:26,600 If you have not sent those comments in please send those in as well. 1536 02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:28,860 Um, we got, I think, one more online. 1537 02:21:31,090 --> 02:21:36,930 I phone four one five three three six five nine nine four you may now unmute. 1538 02:21:38,810 --> 02:21:43,070 Thank you. My name is John Bill and Riley. I'm a four remember the alcohol 1539 02:21:43,070 --> 02:21:47,750 and drug advisory board for nine years and former chairman and Suzanne is one of my colleagues. 1540 02:21:48,050 --> 02:21:53,070 I'm just calling it in all transparency. She should acknowledge that I no longer live in the 1541 02:21:53,070 --> 02:22:17,830 And I looked at a little bit of mist morn a lot, but this issue has continued to be an area of concern among, particularly because as an old old person, I think about history a lot, and there's a reason why we're in as unique in that, in the counties in California, there are very few that have separate alcohol and drug advisory boards. 1542 02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:24,530 The reason that this board exists, it's not a state-mandered board, it was a county-mandated board, 1543 02:22:24,990 --> 02:22:31,250 is because the city fathers at that time and I believe we go back to the 60s and under 1544 02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:34,370 health and human services at that time. 1545 02:22:34,370 --> 02:22:42,310 We're so concerned about the statistics related to driving deaths to alcohol abuse in the county, 1546 02:22:42,310 --> 02:22:52,090 to drug abuse among teenagers and the various kinds of circumstances related to drug and alcohol abuse. 1547 02:22:52,510 --> 02:22:57,730 This is a board that requires attention to these problems. 1548 02:22:58,310 --> 02:23:03,190 Sadly, in this way, in fact, be part of the problem for our drug advisory board. 1549 02:23:03,290 --> 02:23:06,830 Not be more effective, but sadly, these numbers have not changed. 1550 02:23:06,830 --> 02:23:17,590 As Ms. Canter mentioned already, the statistics, well, Marin is the healthiest county, one of the healthiest counties in California. 1551 02:23:18,190 --> 02:23:24,650 This statistic regarding this area of illness and lack of health, it is visible and they have remained visible. 1552 02:23:25,690 --> 02:23:29,890 So whatever the investigations have been by the special committee and I thank them for their work. 1553 02:23:29,890 --> 02:23:36,390 I think this also needs to be weighed against what the actual situation is in Marin County, and 1554 02:23:36,390 --> 02:23:43,510 the kinds of struggles that our community is facing, and our youth is facing, in terms of this particular set of illnesses. 1555 02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:47,600 Therefore, I think it requires special attention of a separate board. 1556 02:23:48,530 --> 02:23:54,660 Focus on trying to do something about these problems. Let me have it in the entire community. Thanks for your time. Thank you. 1557 02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:57,240 No more hands. 1558 02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:01,420 Oh, it need Friedman. You may now unmute. 1559 02:24:09,960 --> 02:24:13,800 Good morning. Supervisors. Can you leadership and staff. My name is 1560 02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:20,120 E. Ty Friedman. I chair the Tamil Plies Design Review Board, a local resident and I work within 1561 02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:27,340 Marine's built environment ecosystem. First and foremost, I'd like to thank staff, the deputy clerk and 1562 02:24:27,340 --> 02:24:36,080 his team CDA and the executive office for the sunset review. This is hard on glamorous work, 1563 02:24:36,700 --> 02:24:44,980 but it definitely moves us all forward towards something better. I wanted to make a comment not to 1564 02:24:44,980 --> 02:24:52,720 defend the status quo. I'm here to welcome change while being sensitive to how and when changes 1565 02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:59,280 and fold. The structures built for an early marine county deserve honest examinations. 1566 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:26,420 This is in a risk to good governance, it's good governance unfolding. My one suggestion in the spirit of collaboration, as leadership evaluates, restructures, that it holds onto what actually works. Localized design expertise, community plan, knowledge, and the volunteers who show up meeting after meeting because they truly care about the area they live in. 1567 02:25:26,420 --> 02:25:34,140 improvements and community aren't opposites, they actually work together. As we modernize 1568 02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:40,880 by laws, clarify laws and strength and transparency, we can do all of that while preserving 1569 02:25:40,880 --> 02:25:48,360 the parts that gave these bodies their local voices. None of us honestly know exactly what 1570 02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:55,340 Marin County will look like in decades from now. From sea level rise to housing, wildfire, traffic, 1571 02:25:55,340 --> 02:26:07,600 no single commission or department solves these alone. We solve them together as one team with critical thinking, sound design standards and real stewardship. 1572 02:26:08,560 --> 02:26:19,340 My aim is to be a partner in this work, not to obstruct it. My commitment is simple to do the work in good faith and bring solutions, not just race challenges. 1573 02:26:19,960 --> 02:26:28,160 And to the community members that are listening, today is in a finished line, it's a foundation. 1574 02:26:28,400 --> 02:26:32,320 Something further generations don't just inherit, but build on. 1575 02:26:32,340 --> 02:26:33,200 Thank you very much. 1576 02:26:33,880 --> 02:26:34,660 Thank you. 1577 02:26:34,880 --> 02:26:36,180 Oh, go ahead and close public comment. 1578 02:26:36,500 --> 02:26:41,280 Go ahead and bring it back to the board for some additional comments or direction here. 1579 02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:44,420 I just want to again want to thank the team here for the review. 1580 02:26:44,420 --> 02:26:50,160 You know, the decisions being made today is not to, you know, any of, nothing's being 1581 02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:50,940 sunsetted a day. 1582 02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:55,620 It's really just kind of that next step in terms of additional evaluation, kind of that 1583 02:26:55,620 --> 02:26:56,520 check-in point. 1584 02:26:57,140 --> 02:27:01,800 And I think in fitting work for, we're talking about today, the Board Subcommittee of Supervisor 1585 02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:07,800 Doney and myself, we are sunseting ourselves with this because part of this recommendation 1586 02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:13,420 is to have a more regularly scheduled sunset review to take place, not a one-off, but just something 1587 02:27:13,420 --> 02:27:17,260 we regularly build into our review process moving forward. 1588 02:27:17,540 --> 02:27:18,940 So with that, I'll turn over to my colleagues 1589 02:27:18,940 --> 02:27:22,060 for thoughts, comments, direction. 1590 02:27:23,420 --> 02:27:24,140 Supervisor Colbert. 1591 02:27:25,220 --> 02:27:27,460 Yeah, thanks, Little Work, really appreciate it. 1592 02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:31,200 I just have, I know you're in the process of sun setting, 1593 02:27:31,280 --> 02:27:33,820 but I would just want offer a suggestion. 1594 02:27:34,420 --> 02:27:36,320 I know there's thoughts about the direction 1595 02:27:36,320 --> 02:27:38,500 and purview of the TIB. 1596 02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:41,040 I would just encourage you to think 1597 02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:47,880 their opportunities for this board to engage with the TIP as we sort of move forward in terms 1598 02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:55,220 of our technology. I think as we are working through as a board and a community our data governance 1599 02:27:55,220 --> 02:28:01,020 policies and our use of technology, it would be good for the community to know that this board 1600 02:28:01,020 --> 02:28:05,860 has its eye on and is in communication with the TIP. Just a suggestion. 1601 02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:09,940 Thank you, Supervisor Colbert. 1602 02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:34,820 others supervisor for second. Thank you very much to supervisor Rodoni and President Luke and I really appreciate you serving on this subcommittee President Luke and when you started on this board you took on this project and it's great to see it come to this point where we're really making the hard decisions but not without having a really in depth analysis. 1603 02:28:34,820 --> 02:28:58,960 This we've been talking about looking at the bylaws for our boards and commissions for a long time and I want to think Alexandra I mean in Jacqueline for taking that deep dive by not only looking at the bylaws, but the importance and all the other pieces that bring us to have all these boards and commissions while recognizing I think core issues oftentimes are a reflection of 1604 02:29:00,060 --> 02:29:04,280 life, but they're also a reflection of people feeling like it's a good use of their time 1605 02:29:04,280 --> 02:29:10,200 and they're actually able to accomplish something and give solid recommendations. 1606 02:29:10,940 --> 02:29:15,480 And I think we heard that in a public comment today that efficiency and effectiveness of 1607 02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:22,580 our boards are really crucial and I appreciate the way that this has been framed and 1608 02:29:22,580 --> 02:29:30,860 forward and I would be happy to move the recommendation of staff to receive the report and provide 1609 02:29:30,860 --> 02:29:35,800 the direction consistent with what it's been recommended to us today. Thank you, supervisor, 1610 02:29:36,340 --> 02:29:41,420 second, supervisor, don't you? Yeah, just that again, thank staff, thanks everyone, it worked on this 1611 02:29:41,420 --> 02:29:47,500 because it's important work because for a long time, I think our commissions and our committees were 1612 02:29:47,500 --> 02:29:54,700 If nothing else and now we've brought them together under the clerk staff, thank you for that. 1613 02:29:55,040 --> 02:29:56,680 And it's a much clearer path forward. 1614 02:29:57,100 --> 02:29:59,980 And I think that ongoing evaluation just totally makes sense. 1615 02:30:00,270 --> 02:30:09,350 And so I appreciate that approach and I appreciate it being part of the committee. They sort of work inside and see what was going on and follow staff's work. 1616 02:30:09,850 --> 02:30:13,270 So I do support your staff's recommendation today. So thank you so much. 1617 02:30:14,170 --> 02:30:15,290 And I'll second that. 1618 02:30:15,610 --> 02:30:18,070 All right. Thank you. So we have a motion from supervisor. 1619 02:30:18,070 --> 02:30:28,290 a second from Supervisor Ridone to just to clarify for the record there, to retain the 1620 02:30:28,290 --> 02:30:32,010 communities as outlined in the staff report, direct staff to continue reviewing the 1621 02:30:32,010 --> 02:30:36,610 communities identified for further evaluation. We have a motion in second, all those 1622 02:30:36,610 --> 02:30:43,830 in favor. I, any opposed, that passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you for the great work and 1623 02:30:43,830 --> 02:30:45,810 more evaluation in the future. 1624 02:30:47,070 --> 02:30:48,770 We'll go ahead and actually, before you do it, 1625 02:30:48,810 --> 02:30:50,850 just a quick time check looking at the remainder 1626 02:30:50,850 --> 02:30:51,790 of our agenda. 1627 02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:56,050 I think we are going to move forward with 1628 02:30:56,050 --> 02:30:58,690 items 9DE and F, which is a civil 1629 02:30:58,690 --> 02:31:00,110 grand jury response. 1630 02:31:01,270 --> 02:31:03,270 The item 10A, which is the 1631 02:31:03,270 --> 02:31:05,210 offsite objective design and development 1632 02:31:05,210 --> 02:31:06,270 standards workshop. 1633 02:31:06,510 --> 02:31:08,250 I'm going to propose that we hold that 1634 02:31:08,250 --> 02:31:10,030 after lunch at 130. 1635 02:31:10,850 --> 02:31:20,350 And then, but we will want to take item 11, which is the assessment appeals board, we will do that before we break for lunch as well. 1636 02:31:20,530 --> 02:31:28,590 So we're going to do civil grand jury reports, the assessment appeals, and then the off-site design development standards will be at 130. 1637 02:31:29,310 --> 02:31:37,130 With that, I'm going to turn it over to Sophie Helper, our legislative affairs associate, to walk us through the civil grand jury response. 1638 02:31:37,870 --> 02:31:47,010 I know we got one presentation, I think we kind of take these all together with a pause after each one for questions and or public comment and then we can vote on all three at the end. 1639 02:31:47,270 --> 02:31:47,750 Welcome Sophie. 1640 02:31:48,410 --> 02:31:49,390 Thank you so much, Supervisors. 1641 02:31:49,450 --> 02:31:49,890 Good morning. 1642 02:31:50,710 --> 02:31:52,890 As you said, so be helpful, legislative affairs associate. 1643 02:31:53,230 --> 02:32:00,130 And I will be giving an overview of the proposed responses to three of the civil grand jury reports that we received this year. 1644 02:32:00,130 --> 02:32:02,390 So, the first item, as you said, 1645 02:32:05,690 --> 02:32:09,150 is the report is titled, Measure A and Voter Choice, 1646 02:32:09,590 --> 02:32:15,430 Rethinking Parks and Agriculture Funding in Marin. It was released on June 30th, 2026, 1647 02:32:15,770 --> 02:32:21,310 and the report details a number of findings about the current measure and its effectiveness 1648 02:32:21,310 --> 02:32:28,010 and oversight and recommends consideration of changes to a potential future renewal of this measure. 1649 02:32:28,810 --> 02:32:38,250 The report also found that Marine County Parks has successfully administered, measure a funding, and that the measure a oversight committee provides meaningful oversight of expenditures. 1650 02:32:39,770 --> 02:32:51,410 The Board of Supervisors was required to respond to all findings, as well as recommendations R1 through R4 and R6, but you'll note that the proposed response does include a response to all recommendations. 1651 02:32:51,410 --> 02:32:52,590 The 1652 02:32:55,020 --> 02:32:59,080 proposed response in front of you today was drafted by Marin County Parks, the Agricultural 1653 02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:04,160 Commissioner and the Office of the County Executive. We have also included memos from both 1654 02:33:04,160 --> 02:33:10,020 the Measure A over-site committee and the Parks and Open Space Commission as attachments to this item. 1655 02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:16,060 The proposed response references the significant public engagement that Marin County Parks 1656 02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:22,300 led to develop the current measure to reflect the community's priorities. This includes the 1657 02:33:22,300 --> 02:33:28,140 oversight provisions, fixed allocation formulas to cities, towns, and special districts, 1658 02:33:29,300 --> 02:33:32,840 as well as the inclusion of sustainable agriculture funding as part of the measure. 1659 02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:39,160 The proposed response affirms that Marin County Parks works very closely with cities and towns 1660 02:33:39,160 --> 02:33:43,560 for the shared goal of a strong park system throughout the county. 1661 02:33:44,540 --> 02:33:49,760 This respects both local priorities throughout the county, as well as the opportunity for 1662 02:33:49,760 --> 02:33:51,300 collaboration amongst partners. 1663 02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:54,740 The proposed response commits that 1664 02:33:54,740 --> 02:33:56,800 Marine County Parks will implement recommendations 1665 02:33:56,800 --> 02:34:00,520 one through four in the grantories report by 1666 02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:02,700 considering the oversight provisions, 1667 02:34:03,200 --> 02:34:05,680 fix allocation formulas, and the funding priorities 1668 02:34:05,680 --> 02:34:08,320 in future measure A renewals. 1669 02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:11,840 Marine County Parks will conduct extensive public engagement 1670 02:34:12,680 --> 02:34:15,820 with the community funding partners and beneficiaries 1671 02:34:15,820 --> 02:34:18,960 as they did in development of the current measure. 1672 02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:26,460 This process will provide the public with an opportunity to evaluate and provide input on the items raised by the grand jury. 1673 02:34:27,540 --> 02:34:36,960 The proposed response makes it clear, however, that consideration of these elements in a future measure is a regular part of the process that Marin County Parks undertakes. 1674 02:34:37,980 --> 02:34:40,820 It does not presuppose any changes to these elements. 1675 02:34:40,820 --> 02:34:51,620 The measure as currently structured as I noted is the result of public input and engagement with the community, our partners, throughout the county and your board. 1676 02:34:53,220 --> 02:34:59,960 I will also note that Marin County Parks implemented recommendation five in the report to maintain a centralized and publicly accessible. 1677 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:07,100 Global reporting system, identifying measure a grant recipients, conservation, easements, recipients, and payments mounts on their website. 1678 02:35:09,400 --> 02:35:16,660 We provided a summary of the findings and recommendations in your proposed response, and we thank the grand jury for their work in developing this report. 1679 02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:30,120 We recommend that your board can occur with and adopt the proposed response to the report and authorize the county executive to submit the response to the civil grand jury and presiding superior court judge. 1680 02:35:30,980 --> 02:35:32,820 And then I'm happy to answer any questions. 1681 02:35:33,660 --> 02:35:34,080 Thank you. 1682 02:35:34,140 --> 02:35:35,080 We'll take a pause here. 1683 02:35:35,140 --> 02:35:36,100 Are there any questions? 1684 02:35:40,350 --> 02:35:41,490 Not not seeing any. 1685 02:35:41,830 --> 02:35:42,610 We'll go ahead. 1686 02:35:42,750 --> 02:35:46,110 Just pull that slide back up. 1687 02:35:56,120 --> 02:35:57,040 On F3. 1688 02:35:57,360 --> 02:35:58,160 Am I reading this wrong? 1689 02:35:58,240 --> 02:36:00,200 It looks like the response here says disagree. 1690 02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:02,440 But in the report, it says agree. 1691 02:36:04,140 --> 02:36:05,480 Am I reading that wrong? 1692 02:36:17,580 --> 02:36:19,140 I think the report's accurate. 1693 02:36:20,260 --> 02:36:22,380 I'm not sure this slide is accurate. 1694 02:36:22,380 --> 02:36:26,420 So apologies for that. That's okay. Thanks. 1695 02:36:27,260 --> 02:36:29,420 All right. Is there any public comment on this particular? 1696 02:36:29,580 --> 02:36:31,640 Um, it was beyond 90. 1697 02:36:32,480 --> 02:36:35,080 Don't see any in the room. Any hands online? 1698 02:36:35,960 --> 02:36:37,060 No hands online. 1699 02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:40,380 All right. Any any comments from. 1700 02:36:41,980 --> 02:36:43,560 Board on this particular one? 1701 02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:45,820 Yes. Supervisor Molten Peters. 1702 02:36:45,960 --> 02:36:48,000 I want to thank you for the report. 1703 02:36:48,560 --> 02:36:50,980 And acknowledges is stated in the answers. 1704 02:36:50,980 --> 02:36:57,620 there was extensive public outreach done in the last measure. Chris, you were a big part of that, 1705 02:36:57,960 --> 02:37:04,380 and the voters were very clear about what they wanted in the measure. So it's always good to 1706 02:37:04,380 --> 02:37:10,460 re-evaluate at the appropriate time, but I feel like we're on very solid ground with a decision that 1707 02:37:10,460 --> 02:37:18,120 was made for the measure. Thank you. Any others? All right. Not seeing so if we can go on to the next one? 1708 02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:19,280 So 1709 02:37:21,640 --> 02:37:29,020 the next report is titled the Marin County Civic Center in Need of Love and was released on June 4th, 2026. 1710 02:37:30,020 --> 02:37:37,420 This report detailed a number of findings and recommendations about the current and future state and use of the Civic Center campus. 1711 02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:48,480 This includes ongoing maintenance strategic investments, safety and security and public access throughout the campus for both community use and activation as well as navigation. 1712 02:37:49,340 --> 02:37:54,140 The Board of Supervisors was required to respond to all findings and recommendations in this report. 1713 02:37:57,660 --> 02:38:00,700 The proposed response was drafted for you by the Department of Public Works, 1714 02:38:01,020 --> 02:38:06,340 Marin County Parks, Cultural Services, Risk Management, and the Office of the County Executive. 1715 02:38:07,900 --> 02:38:14,440 The proposed response agrees with several of the grand jury's findings and the overall sentiment of the report. 1716 02:38:14,440 --> 02:38:21,460 In concurring with the belief that the Pacific Center should be maintained and preserved as an important community asset. 1717 02:38:22,740 --> 02:38:32,820 County leadership, as you know, has already begun to address many of the concerns raised by the grand jury, including better mechanisms for county coordination as it relates to the Pacific Center campus, 1718 02:38:33,700 --> 02:38:40,700 a clear strategy for investments in the facilities, and new programs and events to bring the community to the Southern Center. 1719 02:38:40,700 --> 02:38:44,060 I want to highlight a couple of things that are included in that response. 1720 02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:52,600 The first is the response highlights the civic center working group that includes representatives from the Office of the County Executive, 1721 02:38:53,100 --> 02:39:01,540 Department of Public Works, Marine County Parks, and Cultural Services, and allows for internal coordination of departments contributing to civic center maintenance, 1722 02:39:01,540 --> 02:39:04,380 improvement and use under the board's leadership. 1723 02:39:06,300 --> 02:39:09,620 We also want to highlight recent investments in civic center maintenance 1724 02:39:09,620 --> 02:39:13,360 to address current facility needs, as well as the inclusion 1725 02:39:13,360 --> 02:39:19,080 of almost $130 million in the Capital Improvement Program 1726 02:39:19,080 --> 02:39:24,500 for revitalization of the civic center, including plans for the civic center cafe, 1727 02:39:25,060 --> 02:39:29,800 veterans memorial auditorium, as well as other improvements to enhance visitor experience. 1728 02:39:31,540 --> 02:39:36,220 We also want to highlight the great work being done by cultural services to create more 1729 02:39:36,220 --> 02:39:40,680 place-making opportunities at the Civic Center, such as the successful holiday-light 1730 02:39:40,680 --> 02:39:46,680 spectacular that welcomed 34,000 visitors to the campus between November and January of last 1731 02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:47,620 year. 1732 02:39:48,280 --> 02:39:52,360 As well as the ongoing programming that the department works to manage, including the Marin County 1733 02:39:52,360 --> 02:39:55,980 Fair, that hosted 80,000 visitors this past summer. 1734 02:39:56,980 --> 02:39:59,980 The proposed response also acknowledges the import... 1735 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:06,580 Work of the Frank Lloyd Wright Civic Center Conservancy. And, as you know, at your meeting last week on August 18, 1736 02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:15,020 your board adopted a resolution to clarify and restate the status, purpose, and membership of the Conservancy to affirm its role. 1737 02:40:16,360 --> 02:40:22,300 The proposed response commits to implementing recommendations 1, 4 and 5 as part of the county's upcoming planning, 1738 02:40:22,300 --> 02:40:34,940 including a county work plan item to develop and refine specifications and a practical implementation approach for a countywide asset management program and life cycle replacement program. 1739 02:40:35,340 --> 02:40:38,720 That is expected to be completed by June 30th, 2026. 1740 02:40:40,480 --> 02:40:46,800 As your board is aware, the countywide strategic plan is scheduled to be completed by April 30th, 2027, 1741 02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:55,400 And that will really serve as the foundation for a lot of the future planning efforts, of course, throughout the county, but specifically here on the Civic Center campus as well. 1742 02:40:57,640 --> 02:41:02,000 Again, we've provided a summary, hopefully this one is correct, of the findings recommendations. 1743 02:41:03,140 --> 02:41:06,220 And we, again, thank the grand jury for their work in developing this report. 1744 02:41:06,720 --> 02:41:18,540 And recommend that your board can occur with and adopt the proposed response to the report and authorize the county executive to submit the response to the civil grand jury and presiding judge of the Marin County Superior Court. 1745 02:41:19,700 --> 02:41:22,180 here any questions on this one 1746 02:41:24,520 --> 02:41:29,260 not seen any any public comment also not 1747 02:41:29,260 --> 02:41:35,100 seen any any here or online no hands online any additional comments or 1748 02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:41,680 direction on this one surprise won't Peters just a brief comment that when 1749 02:41:41,680 --> 02:41:47,260 I was interviewed by the grand jury and their concerns and I thought well we all 1750 02:41:47,260 --> 02:41:52,060 agree we need to do more work on this so the timing was good we were already on 1751 02:41:52,060 --> 02:41:57,760 Derek has this as a huge priority. Chris Blanc has already been marshalling resources 1752 02:41:58,780 --> 02:42:04,320 diligently to do the upgrade. So anyway, we're just in agreement. I think that's a good thing. 1753 02:42:07,310 --> 02:42:12,810 I'm happy to move the item. All right. We're going to do all the motions and at the end there. 1754 02:42:13,330 --> 02:42:15,950 So if there's no additional direction on this one, we'll go on to the third one. 1755 02:42:20,500 --> 02:42:25,580 The third report all summarized for you today is MCE Marine Clean Energy, a series of 1756 02:42:25,580 --> 02:42:29,760 steps highlight need for governance changes, released on June 30th, 2026. 1757 02:42:30,780 --> 02:42:35,660 This report detailed a number of findings and recommendations about the management and oversight 1758 02:42:36,220 --> 02:42:38,560 of MCE for improved governance. 1759 02:42:40,300 --> 02:42:44,480 The board was only required to respond to two findings and two recommendations, so this 1760 02:42:44,480 --> 02:42:46,580 response you'll see in comparison is quite short. 1761 02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:50,320 The proposed response was drafted by the Office of Accounting Executive. 1762 02:42:50,320 --> 02:42:57,000 If it agrees with the two grand jury findings, we responded to regarding participation and expertise 1763 02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:02,500 of MCE Board of Directors members, while acknowledging that elected officials that serve on 1764 02:43:02,500 --> 02:43:07,500 the board bring experience related to their role of oversight of the organization and its management. 1765 02:43:08,820 --> 02:43:15,600 The proposed response also expresses support for the external governance review that the organization 1766 02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:20,620 is currently undertaking and notes that supervisor's packet, your board's designate on the MCE Board 1767 02:43:20,620 --> 02:43:26,480 of Directors is participating both in Board of Directors meetings but also serves on the 1768 02:43:26,480 --> 02:43:32,020 ad hoc governance committee and ad hoc CEO search committee that were established this year. 1769 02:43:33,020 --> 02:43:37,420 The proposed response will not implement the two recommendations because of the boards established 1770 02:43:37,420 --> 02:43:41,540 annual process for appointing designates to external boards and agencies. 1771 02:43:43,480 --> 02:44:01,200 Again, you'll see your short summary table there, and we thank the grand jury for their work and recommend that your board can occur with and adopt the proposed response to this report and author as a county executive to submit the response to the civil grand jury and we're in county superior court. 1772 02:44:01,760 --> 02:44:02,940 Any questions here? 1773 02:44:05,390 --> 02:44:07,390 Thank you, Sophie. Any public comment? 1774 02:44:09,010 --> 02:44:12,410 Not seeing any in the chambers or online, I'll go and bring it back, I'm going to turn 1775 02:44:12,410 --> 02:44:15,250 over to Supervisor Sacket or Representative there. 1776 02:44:15,550 --> 02:44:16,510 Thank you very much. 1777 02:44:17,430 --> 02:44:19,410 It's my pleasure to serve as representative. 1778 02:44:20,350 --> 02:44:26,770 And I appreciate Supervisor Colbert attending when I'm not able to attend. 1779 02:44:26,950 --> 02:44:31,590 There's also been, I think, some changes in Brown Act legislation that will also 1780 02:44:31,590 --> 02:44:32,810 make it easier. 1781 02:44:33,010 --> 02:44:36,890 I know there was one time where I was online, but unable to attend remotely. 1782 02:44:36,890 --> 02:44:44,890 So I think that's going to also help, but I think I appreciate the responses I think from the county's perspective. We have attended a letter. 1783 02:44:45,030 --> 02:44:55,070 Everyone know that at last week the MCE board meeting, we discussed the MCE response to this report over the course of over two and a half hours. 1784 02:44:56,150 --> 02:44:59,870 And I think you will see that published relatively shortly. 1785 02:45:00,540 --> 02:45:16,780 Which goes into a lot more of the substance. I have appreciated serving on the governance assessment. I think really even thinking of what we did just with our boards and commissions, these things need a review. They need a deep look and they need to make some tough decisions. 1786 02:45:16,780 --> 02:45:21,340 but I do feel like the board is aligned. 1787 02:45:22,280 --> 02:45:26,740 Maybe more so than it has been in a long time to make, 1788 02:45:27,200 --> 02:45:30,300 to recognize that governance needs to be reviewed 1789 02:45:30,300 --> 02:45:32,200 and that some changes are afoot. 1790 02:45:33,420 --> 02:45:37,660 We have a report coming on September 17th from the consultant 1791 02:45:37,660 --> 02:45:42,240 that was retained to do that governance assessment for MCE 1792 02:45:43,440 --> 02:46:06,660 And really to line up what needs to be done, they've spent a lot of time interviewing all the board members, past and present, a lot of the stakeholders externally in our community organizations and other CCAs and really looking forward to what they're going to bring forward as far as recommended actions to take. 1793 02:46:06,660 --> 02:46:19,840 And I recognize this is still going to be a really, those actions are really going to be a big lift with the size of the board that we have to make those decisions and move forward, but there is alignment as it goes forward. 1794 02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:25,580 So, thanks for your patience. I agree with the, with the counties responsible issues. 1795 02:46:26,320 --> 02:46:27,520 Great. Any additional comments? 1796 02:46:27,520 --> 02:46:33,520 I did see one hand go up. We did call for public comment, but I'll give an opportunity here for this speaker. 1797 02:46:34,920 --> 02:46:40,700 If this was for this particular item. James Smith, you may now unmute. 1798 02:46:47,660 --> 02:46:48,560 James, are you there? 1799 02:46:52,740 --> 02:47:08,020 All right, we'll go ahead and move on. Thank you, Sophie. Thank you for all of the updates here. So with that, 1800 02:47:08,020 --> 02:47:11,960 on behalf of the Board of Supervisors to submit the responses to the Marine County Civil 1801 02:47:11,960 --> 02:47:15,880 Grand jury and presiding judge of the Marine County Superior Court, honor before their 1802 02:47:15,880 --> 02:47:21,500 respective due dates, which is September 30th for the Measure A report, September 4th 1803 02:47:21,500 --> 02:47:26,760 for the Civic Senate report and September 16th for the MCE report. 1804 02:47:27,360 --> 02:47:37,640 I'm happy to move the recommended action with extreme appreciation to the grand jury for their 1805 02:47:37,640 --> 02:47:42,580 of a motion by supervisor's packet, a second by supervisor moment Peter's all those in favor. 1806 02:47:42,700 --> 02:47:43,220 Hi. 1807 02:47:43,620 --> 02:47:45,040 I'm going to pose that passes. 1808 02:47:45,220 --> 02:47:46,100 Thank you. 1809 02:47:46,460 --> 02:47:52,740 We're going to get one more item here before we break for closed session. 1810 02:47:52,820 --> 02:47:58,780 And that is item number 11A, which is the assessment appeals board appointments. 1811 02:47:59,360 --> 02:48:03,120 Carla Omar, you're going to run us through this real quick. 1812 02:48:20,300 --> 02:48:30,260 Morning, before you is a request from the Office of the County Executive to consider appointments to the Marin County Assessment Appeals Board. 1813 02:48:30,440 --> 02:48:40,700 The Assessment Appeals Board is a state-mandated body that provides property owners with a formal process to appeal property assessments made by the County assessor. 1814 02:48:40,700 --> 02:48:45,560 The board is authorized for six regular members to alternate. 1815 02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:52,060 There are currently four vacancies, two regular member seats, and two alternate seats. 1816 02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:55,600 All appointments are for three years. 1817 02:48:56,400 --> 02:49:01,780 For administrative purposes, the assessment appeals board operates as board one and board two. 1818 02:49:02,000 --> 02:49:07,580 However, the member functions function as a single pull of qualified appointees. 1819 02:49:07,580 --> 02:49:18,140 There is no geographic or policy distinction between the two boards, and the Board of Supervisors has discretion to appoint qualified applicants to either panel. 1820 02:49:18,780 --> 02:49:33,260 Applicants must also meet specific statutory qualifications, including at least five years of qualifying professional experience in California, and may not have worked for an assessor's office during the three years immediately preceding appointment. 1821 02:49:33,260 --> 02:49:40,620 The county received applications from James McCone, Alexander Kugelman, David Thelander, 1822 02:49:41,260 --> 02:49:47,040 West Maine, and Hayder, Tony Porion, excuse me. 1823 02:49:47,860 --> 02:49:54,520 Staff is requesting that the board consider a point to applicants as regular members and to 1824 02:49:54,520 --> 02:49:59,620 applicants as alternate each for three years as an alternative. 1825 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:13,680 Board may decline to make appointments at this time and direct staff to continue recruitment. However, continuing vacancies may affect the board's ability to establish quorum and could result in delays in hearing assessment appeals. 1826 02:50:14,440 --> 02:50:15,500 That concludes our presentation. 1827 02:50:16,660 --> 02:50:22,820 Thank you, Omar. So, based on, you know, we have some options today. We could make appointments. We could continue. We can schedule interviews. 1828 02:50:22,820 --> 02:50:25,440 I want to look to my colleagues, Supervisor Sackett. 1829 02:50:26,120 --> 02:50:34,080 Yes, I would make a recommendation regarding the appointments and I would recommend 1830 02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:40,780 that we appoint two new members, James McCan, and heed Artoni Purion as the on those two 1831 02:50:40,780 --> 02:50:41,200 seats. 1832 02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:49,160 And then as the alternates, Alexander Kugelman and David Dlander, who have been serving and 1833 02:50:49,160 --> 02:50:53,300 And there is a need for alternates on these boards, and so would appreciate them serving 1834 02:50:53,300 --> 02:50:53,860 in that role. 1835 02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:55,040 That would be my recommendation. 1836 02:50:56,040 --> 02:50:56,240 Okay. 1837 02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:57,000 A second. 1838 02:50:57,780 --> 02:50:58,220 Okay. 1839 02:50:58,680 --> 02:51:00,560 So, we have a motion, and we have a second. 1840 02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:02,940 Is there any public comment on this one? 1841 02:51:09,850 --> 02:51:12,370 Welcome, our assessor reporter, County Clerk. 1842 02:51:16,400 --> 02:51:16,920 There we go. 1843 02:51:17,280 --> 02:51:17,840 Good morning. 1844 02:51:18,620 --> 02:51:20,740 Shelly Scott, assessor reporter, County Clerk. 1845 02:51:20,740 --> 02:51:25,760 I just wanted to say that I support expanding the assessment appeals board from six to 1846 02:51:25,760 --> 02:51:25,960 eight. 1847 02:51:25,960 --> 02:51:27,700 I appreciate the two alternates. 1848 02:51:27,700 --> 02:51:39,620 I think this will provide better coverage for applications and absences, so I just wanted you to know that I'm in full support of this and I appreciate all that the clerk and the county executive are doing for that. 1849 02:51:39,780 --> 02:51:41,080 So thank you so much. 1850 02:51:42,400 --> 02:51:46,060 I don't see any other public comment here in the room. Is there any online? 1851 02:51:46,560 --> 02:51:47,540 No hands online. 1852 02:51:48,180 --> 02:51:52,120 All right. I'll look to my colleagues for any additional deliberation or discussion. 1853 02:51:54,780 --> 02:52:02,160 So we did not have alternates before. Maybe just reconfirm that. 1854 02:52:05,140 --> 02:52:10,980 Yeah. So we've always had the ability to have alternates. We just realized it this year. 1855 02:52:11,340 --> 02:52:16,840 And so we were happy to find that there were these two alternates that we could start to utilize. 1856 02:52:17,480 --> 02:52:22,360 And so that's why we've put that into play this year. 1857 02:52:22,360 --> 02:52:33,700 This year, we've seen a lot of situations where we, it would have been nice if we had had an alternate in place, and so. 1858 02:52:36,740 --> 02:52:39,740 Okay, so based on that, there's no other discussion. 1859 02:52:39,940 --> 02:52:45,720 We do have a motion from Supervisor Sacket, a second from Supervisor Rodoni, all those in favor. 1860 02:52:46,700 --> 02:52:47,880 Hi, any opposed? 1861 02:52:48,280 --> 02:52:48,860 That passes. 1862 02:52:49,440 --> 02:52:49,880 Thank you. 1863 02:52:49,900 --> 02:52:50,440 Thank you, Carla. 1864 02:52:50,440 --> 02:52:58,900 Thank you, Omar. We are going to now break for closed session before we do so, is there any public comment on closed session? 1865 02:52:59,800 --> 02:53:01,620 Don't see any here. 1866 02:53:01,780 --> 02:53:14,460 Don't see any hands going up. We will return in the afternoon at one 30 with the off site design and development standards. I believe we're going to want to remain in items that we have there. Thank you. We're going to recess into closed session. 1867 04:07:48,460 --> 04:07:49,000 Thank you. 1868 04:15:15,410 --> 04:15:16,250 Thank you. 1869 04:25:01,230 --> 04:25:01,570 Thank you. 1870 04:34:09,210 --> 04:34:11,310 In any case, in any case, 1871 04:34:15,670 --> 04:34:16,190 in any case. 1872 04:41:47,500 --> 04:41:47,960 Thank 1873 04:44:50,620 --> 04:44:56,960 you very much for joining us. 1874 04:45:02,200 --> 04:45:03,600 Thank you for joining 1875 04:45:22,710 --> 04:45:25,810 us. 1876 04:53:00,620 --> 04:53:02,020 Good afternoon. 1877 04:53:05,330 --> 04:53:23,370 Good afternoon. Welcome back. The Board of Supervisors did meet in close session. There was nothing to report out. We have two remaining items before us this afternoon. The next one up is item number 10, which is a off-site objective design and development standards workshop. 1878 04:53:23,370 --> 04:53:31,030 like to bring up our DVW Director Chris Blunk, Sarah Jones, CDA Director, Robin Bartlett, 1879 04:53:31,070 --> 04:53:37,130 here with us, officially as Assistant Director for DVW, congratulations and Bob Brown, 1880 04:53:37,230 --> 04:53:40,730 a Principal Consultant on this project. I'll turn it over to Chris Blunk. 1881 04:53:41,350 --> 04:53:46,390 Thank you so much for President Luchin and Supervisors. We appreciate the opportunity this afternoon 1882 04:53:46,390 --> 04:53:53,010 to meet with you all and host the workshop on the Offsite Objective Design Development Standards 1883 04:53:53,010 --> 04:54:01,410 or the odds. So really our objective here today is to share the work that our team with CDA, 1884 04:54:01,510 --> 04:54:07,010 public works and our consultants, Optikos and Tool have been doing the outreach that they've 1885 04:54:07,010 --> 04:54:13,030 been doing in the community to try to update our objective standards. And really the goal of this 1886 04:54:13,030 --> 04:54:18,730 project is to make the county's development standards super clear to developers who are coming in, 1887 04:54:18,730 --> 04:54:21,430 but also to our partner agencies, utility districts, 1888 04:54:21,590 --> 04:54:25,390 so that we have clarity on what our expectations are 1889 04:54:25,390 --> 04:54:28,230 and that developers contribute their fair share 1890 04:54:28,230 --> 04:54:31,030 toward quality, built environment and infrastructure. 1891 04:54:31,730 --> 04:54:33,910 So that's what we're trying to achieve in this process. 1892 04:54:34,290 --> 04:54:36,410 We have some draft standards. 1893 04:54:36,650 --> 04:54:39,330 We've got a presentation that'll walk through quite a bit 1894 04:54:39,330 --> 04:54:42,110 of the detail and we're looking for your feedback 1895 04:54:42,110 --> 04:54:44,990 and feedback and input that we get from the community today. 1896 04:54:45,130 --> 04:54:46,310 We'll be taking good notes. 1897 04:54:46,450 --> 04:54:47,650 I'm going to sit down in the back here 1898 04:54:47,650 --> 04:54:52,150 start taking notes, and then we'll take that input that we've received today, and put that 1899 04:54:52,150 --> 04:54:56,570 into hopefully a final product to bring back to you within the next couple of months. 1900 04:54:56,930 --> 04:54:59,510 So with that, I'm going to turn things over to my colleague, Sarah Jones. 1901 04:54:59,610 --> 04:54:59,850 Thank you. 1902 04:55:00,810 --> 04:55:12,610 Thank you so much, Chris. Sarah Jones Community Development Director. I think we're going to have a lot of fun today, and I will start with a bold statement which is that streets are public spaces. 1903 04:55:13,810 --> 04:55:26,010 They have as much to do with the feel and the character of a developed place as the buildings, the vegetation, the landscape or the views, and they're experienced by everyone in a community every single day. 1904 04:55:26,010 --> 04:55:36,390 So, for these reasons, it's incumbent on us as the county to do what we can to make streets safe, usable, accessible, and high quality for everyone. 1905 04:55:37,570 --> 04:55:38,030 Okay, 1906 04:55:41,460 --> 04:55:42,180 thank you. 1907 04:55:43,700 --> 04:55:54,720 The intent of our proposal on objective street design standards that you'll see before you today isn't to maintain the status quo of the quality of streets in unincorporated Marin. 1908 04:55:54,720 --> 04:56:06,660 That is because, by and large, the most significant public space in Marin County, our street network is not what it needs to be if it's going to enhance community safety and vitality. 1909 04:56:07,220 --> 04:56:17,200 Many streets that we have are unsafe to walk or ride a bike on or have poor visibility or don't have enough room for all of the people who need to use them. 1910 04:56:17,200 --> 04:56:25,480 And everyone in this room and in Marinette Large grapples every day with the challenges that that brings, especially the members of our public. 1911 04:56:26,080 --> 04:56:30,220 We don't see it because we're so used to it and because we work around it. 1912 04:56:30,800 --> 04:56:34,060 And we are not here today to talk about retrofitting these conditions. 1913 04:56:34,980 --> 04:56:40,540 But what do we do when there's new development and we're making the call about what streets should be going forward? 1914 04:56:40,540 --> 04:56:45,960 We need to move away from the past and see streets as integral to the safety and 1915 04:56:45,960 --> 04:56:49,480 livability of the new places that are being created right now. 1916 04:56:54,000 --> 04:56:58,460 So, our workshop today is about creating regulations that fully reflect policy objectives. 1917 04:56:58,940 --> 04:57:04,460 We're here before you as a multi-departmental team enhanced by additional subject matter expertise 1918 04:57:04,460 --> 04:57:06,720 brought by our consultants on this project. 1919 04:57:07,440 --> 04:57:12,600 The tools that we are developing are designed to reach the outcome of safe and livable streets, 1920 04:57:12,600 --> 04:57:15,700 specifically in connection to private development. 1921 04:57:16,440 --> 04:57:18,360 These are not the streets that the county is building. 1922 04:57:18,780 --> 04:57:21,640 This is what would be incorporated into our codes, 1923 04:57:22,120 --> 04:57:25,440 setting out the standards and rules that developers need to meet. 1924 04:57:26,420 --> 04:57:28,780 The direction that has emerged in state law 1925 04:57:28,780 --> 04:57:31,220 is towards the use of objective standards, 1926 04:57:31,600 --> 04:57:33,740 grounded in clear public purpose, 1927 04:57:34,360 --> 04:57:37,680 rather than the uncertainty of project-by-project negotiation 1928 04:57:37,680 --> 04:57:39,460 as it existed in the past. 1929 04:57:39,460 --> 04:57:48,680 This in turn gives us an opportunity to support more fully what the county wants to achieve in terms of the quality and the character of development. 1930 04:57:49,680 --> 04:57:52,060 We have the latitude to set our standards. 1931 04:57:52,720 --> 04:57:57,200 That is where our local control exists in the planning and in the policy setting. 1932 04:57:59,860 --> 04:58:04,500 So, objective design standards for public streets are one key piece to have in place. 1933 04:58:04,500 --> 04:58:13,340 They will clearly and directly support community and economic vitality by setting and understanding and standard for critical public spaces. 1934 04:58:14,160 --> 04:58:16,180 And they also support other goals. 1935 04:58:16,720 --> 04:58:30,280 A community that doesn't support safe mobility for people using all transportation modes is not a community that could be equitable or accessible or age friendly or family friendly or sustainable. 1936 04:58:30,980 --> 04:58:37,600 And clear standards also support transparency, fiscal sustainability, and the kind of professionalism 1937 04:58:37,600 --> 04:58:39,860 in government service that we owe to Marin. 1938 04:58:43,220 --> 04:58:45,180 So, of course, as you well know, we are taking 1939 04:58:45,180 --> 04:58:50,480 a lot of steps in Marin to incorporate changing state law, but to incorporate the changing 1940 04:58:50,480 --> 04:58:57,000 state law around housing, but in ways that will work for Marin. So for us, this means a move from 1941 04:58:57,000 --> 04:59:02,500 the subjective standards that we have now to objective ones, where there is clarity on what's 1942 04:59:02,500 --> 04:59:07,440 required, and it can be determined during our administrative review if the standard has been 1943 04:59:07,440 --> 04:59:07,860 achieved. 1944 04:59:08,920 --> 04:59:13,400 The proposed standards that you'll see today are indeed objective, and are grounded in 1945 04:59:13,400 --> 04:59:17,380 a lot of research and best practice on achieving safe and usable streets. 1946 04:59:18,100 --> 04:59:23,660 Within that guiding principle of objectivity, we have also identified paths to recognize context, 1947 04:59:24,160 --> 04:59:28,580 site conditions, and the need to have some options for how the outcomes can be achieved. 1948 04:59:28,580 --> 04:59:32,820 So we can enable the various types of development proposals that we see. 1949 04:59:33,400 --> 04:59:38,360 So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Robin Bartlett and he will tell you how we are going to get there. 1950 04:59:43,740 --> 04:59:47,380 Thank you, Robin Bartlett, Assistant Director and Public Works. 1951 04:59:48,680 --> 04:59:53,360 And I'm going to talk a little bit about our process in developing the odds. 1952 04:59:54,060 --> 04:59:57,000 And I'll start with the purpose of this workshop. 1953 04:59:57,620 --> 04:59:59,960 We're here to receive your comments. 1954 05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:12,120 And enter a new conversation with you about the standards, as we move towards finalizing them and presenting them to you again in a hearing. 1955 05:00:14,140 --> 05:00:27,360 So with regard to the key elements in this process, the first one is we have developed proposed street designs with a variety of features incorporated in them. 1956 05:00:27,360 --> 05:00:41,320 And those proposed public streets are intended to provide for safe and flexible design that gives a greater sense of place and comfort for all users. 1957 05:00:42,960 --> 05:00:48,660 Underlying everything that we're doing here is the proposed minimum safety standards. 1958 05:00:48,660 --> 05:01:08,840 So, we have developed those in accordance with state and national guidelines and those are the standards below which developers cannot go and that will be an underlying theme throughout everything that you are hearing for the rest of this presentation. 1959 05:01:10,040 --> 05:01:20,520 Based on those minimum standards and our desired street design features, we've intended to design flexibility into this whole process. 1960 05:01:21,020 --> 05:01:35,540 We are establishing a difference between public and private streets, namely that the public streets will be those that meet our full standards that we desire and based on the principles that have been outlined. 1961 05:01:35,540 --> 05:01:46,320 And private streets will be those that meet the minimum safety standards only, and the intent there is to incentivize developers to build to the higher standards. 1962 05:01:47,140 --> 05:01:51,180 We're also going to be introducing some new low speed streets. 1963 05:01:52,380 --> 05:01:58,160 In addition, we'll be discussing how we accommodate existing conditions into new development. 1964 05:02:01,010 --> 05:02:08,470 So, with this process is a multi-phase process, the first phase is what we are discussing today, 1965 05:02:09,270 --> 05:02:14,930 and that is the development of street design standards for the city-centered and Bayland's corridors, 1966 05:02:15,770 --> 05:02:22,730 that is the salmon and purplish colors you see on the east side of the map of Marin County. 1967 05:02:23,470 --> 05:02:29,130 We will be back for future phases that will include rural street design standards, 1968 05:02:29,130 --> 05:02:37,250 as well as phase three, which will cover all of the various details, including grading and drainage, 1969 05:02:37,990 --> 05:02:43,570 utilities, traffic calming, transit, landscaping, and street lighting. 1970 05:02:47,380 --> 05:02:51,680 So to recap some of the stakeholder engagement that has gone into this process, 1971 05:02:52,600 --> 05:02:58,280 we have engaged with community focus groups, including civil and traffic engineers, 1972 05:02:58,280 --> 05:03:04,440 developers, land use attorneys, utilities, and special districts, and the Marine County 1973 05:03:04,440 --> 05:03:11,560 Bicycle Coalition. In addition, we've had this staff working groups and we've met 1974 05:03:11,560 --> 05:03:15,120 with the Planning Commission for a workshop and hearing. 1975 05:03:18,460 --> 05:03:20,020 Again reiterating the minimum 1976 05:03:20,020 --> 05:03:27,920 safety standards, these have been adopted or will be adopting health and safety 1977 05:03:27,920 --> 05:03:32,080 minimums that are based on those recognized state and national standards. 1978 05:03:33,780 --> 05:03:38,820 Again, developers may decline to follow the county standards or otherwise known as 1979 05:03:38,820 --> 05:03:43,300 waving them, but they may not go below those minimum safety standards. 1980 05:03:47,290 --> 05:03:53,350 With regard to our project objectives, it has been to set clear objective design 1981 05:03:53,350 --> 05:03:55,530 standards for streamlined approval. 1982 05:03:55,530 --> 05:04:00,630 based standards on widely accepted national guidance documents, 1983 05:04:01,810 --> 05:04:05,310 emphasize safety for all users in design standards, 1984 05:04:06,610 --> 05:04:08,550 encourage alternative modes of mobility, 1985 05:04:09,670 --> 05:04:12,870 and incorporate place-making design features for aesthetics 1986 05:04:12,870 --> 05:04:15,910 and utility of the street improvements. 1987 05:04:19,130 --> 05:04:21,010 With that, I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Brown, 1988 05:04:21,150 --> 05:04:26,290 who will go through the individual street standards that we have developed 1989 05:04:26,290 --> 05:04:28,710 and we appreciate your input. 1990 05:04:30,190 --> 05:04:31,230 Thank you so much, Robin. 1991 05:04:32,050 --> 05:04:36,350 Yes, I'll be going over the nitty gritty of the standards that we have developed over 1992 05:04:36,350 --> 05:04:41,210 the past six months, both with involvement of County staff, but also the stakeholder groups 1993 05:04:41,210 --> 05:04:42,490 that Robin mentioned. 1994 05:04:43,130 --> 05:04:47,710 I would note that I'm joined in person today by Onchupalta from Tool Design. 1995 05:04:48,350 --> 05:04:51,750 They are our transportation consultants and two of our colleagues. 1996 05:04:51,750 --> 05:04:58,230 a Malia Layton Cody and Colin Roberts are online and they can be available to answer 1997 05:04:58,230 --> 05:04:59,510 technical questions as well. 1998 05:05:00,300 --> 05:05:17,200 So what I'd like to do is start with a presentation of the residential street standards and I'll go through them as a group and then pause for any questions that the board may have and then I'll transition and talk about the non-residential street standards and do the same calling for questions at that point. 1999 05:05:19,120 --> 05:05:23,880 So our basic residential street design is based on national 2000 05:05:23,880 --> 05:05:27,160 lactose standards for dimensions of the travel lanes, 2001 05:05:27,360 --> 05:05:30,040 the ensuite parking, and the sidewalks. 2002 05:05:30,040 --> 05:05:33,360 It has the same paved curb width to width, 2003 05:05:33,800 --> 05:05:37,340 curb to curve width as your current residential road standards, 2004 05:05:38,040 --> 05:05:42,640 but our proposed standards add a planting strip on either side 2005 05:05:42,640 --> 05:05:45,860 and also six foot sidewalks on either side of the street 2006 05:05:45,860 --> 05:05:48,160 where your current standards are only four feet. 2007 05:05:48,160 --> 05:05:54,860 And we think that's critical for both better pedestrian safety and utility and improved aesthetics. 2008 05:05:55,280 --> 05:05:58,620 We really want to make sure that we are promoting alternative modes of transportation. 2009 05:05:59,460 --> 05:06:07,620 And we think that providing adequate sidewalks that are shaded, protective from the travel lanes is really crucial to making that transition. 2010 05:06:09,680 --> 05:06:15,860 And this is a visual example of what that type of street looks like in terms of its width in terms of amenities. 2011 05:06:15,860 --> 05:06:22,080 I would note this is a new subdivision so the street tree is really haven't had much of a chance to get full-sized 2012 05:06:25,570 --> 05:06:34,750 The next street type that the county currently has is called the limited residential road and it has a narrow right-of-way by eliminating 2013 05:06:34,750 --> 05:06:35,910 on-street parking 2014 05:06:36,630 --> 05:06:39,990 It too has four foot sidewalks in either side 2015 05:06:39,990 --> 05:06:49,050 So our proposed change would add planting strips on either side to protect the sidewalks and again increasing the sidewalk with from four to six feet 2016 05:06:49,050 --> 05:06:55,810 We would propose that this street design be only allowed for retrofits of existing county streets 2017 05:06:55,810 --> 05:07:03,550 where parking doesn't currently exist, so it would not be available for the creation of new streets without parking. 2018 05:07:04,330 --> 05:07:10,030 Again, we're going to have situations where a frontage improvement for a new residential project 2019 05:07:10,030 --> 05:07:13,630 will have to improve an existing street, which may be substandard. 2020 05:07:13,630 --> 05:07:21,310 So again, if the street does not have parking, then this could be a choice the developers could make for a public street without parking. 2021 05:07:23,450 --> 05:07:26,470 And this is an example of what that type of street looks like. 2022 05:07:32,200 --> 05:07:37,800 And the last residential road type that the county currently has is called a minor residential road. 2023 05:07:38,060 --> 05:07:42,060 And it has parking on one side only and again the four foot sidewalks. 2024 05:07:42,060 --> 05:07:49,220 So we propose to allow this design but only for private streets and as the trade-off to 2025 05:07:49,220 --> 05:07:52,840 developers that would want to devote less land area to their roadways. 2026 05:07:53,580 --> 05:07:58,400 Our proposed design, again, adds six foot sidewalks on either side and a planting strip 2027 05:07:58,400 --> 05:08:01,160 protecting that sidewalk on one side. 2028 05:08:01,940 --> 05:08:06,460 And then on the other side that as the parking lane there would be a requirement that street 2029 05:08:06,460 --> 05:08:09,400 be planted in the front setback of the residents. 2030 05:08:13,440 --> 05:08:16,540 And again, a visual example of what that type of 2031 05:08:16,540 --> 05:08:17,900 street would look like. 2032 05:08:23,140 --> 05:08:28,100 And as Robin pointed out, we're trying to be as flexible to 2033 05:08:28,100 --> 05:08:36,440 development trends as we can be, again, without really diminishing the aesthetics and the mobility 2034 05:08:36,440 --> 05:08:42,320 that would be provided with the new standards. But in new proposed street type, this would also 2035 05:08:42,320 --> 05:08:48,100 be a private street, and this design is based on what you might have heard we call auto 2036 05:08:48,100 --> 05:08:54,140 courts, where there's a handful of homes that are accessed from a shared, very low speed 2037 05:08:54,140 --> 05:08:59,780 street, where the pedestrians share the traveling. So there's no sidewalks here. Again, 2038 05:08:59,880 --> 05:09:06,280 these would only be allowed to be private. This would not have on street parking, but there 2039 05:09:06,280 --> 05:09:12,760 be a requirement that driveway aprons be at least 20 feet long so that they would accommodate 2040 05:09:12,760 --> 05:09:17,600 additional uncover parking, which then could not be accommodated in the street itself. 2041 05:09:18,560 --> 05:09:24,140 And we would also limit the maximum length of this type of road again to make sure it is a low speed 2042 05:09:24,140 --> 05:09:31,940 road to 150 feet. And also would require that street trees be planted again in the front landscape area 2043 05:09:31,940 --> 05:09:33,200 for each home, 2044 05:09:36,500 --> 05:09:37,840 and a visual example of this street, 2045 05:09:38,080 --> 05:09:40,200 although this particular example really sort of lacks 2046 05:09:40,200 --> 05:09:41,880 the street trees that we would be proposing. 2047 05:09:46,690 --> 05:09:48,450 And the last residential street design 2048 05:09:48,450 --> 05:09:50,030 would be a new one as well. 2049 05:09:50,130 --> 05:09:52,370 And this would be for a private alley. 2050 05:09:53,310 --> 05:09:56,930 And again, it would be available for rear garage access 2051 05:09:56,930 --> 05:09:58,370 for townhouse developments. 2052 05:09:58,570 --> 05:09:59,970 Again, we see this fairly common. 2053 05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:12,020 And the front axis would be from a major residential street. And then again, the alley would be available just for garage access, not for pedestrian access to the units. 2054 05:10:15,020 --> 05:10:20,780 And with that, I would be happy to stop and we can take any technical questions about the residential street types. 2055 05:10:22,260 --> 05:10:26,540 Right. Thank you. Any questions at this point from any of my colleagues? 2056 05:10:28,860 --> 05:10:29,960 Supervisor Mom Peters. 2057 05:10:31,640 --> 05:10:34,640 Bob, I had a question as I looked at these designs. 2058 05:10:35,180 --> 05:10:36,100 What about bicycles? 2059 05:10:37,860 --> 05:10:39,600 And so, could you explain that? 2060 05:10:40,160 --> 05:10:42,700 In the case of the residential streets again, we're anticipating 2061 05:10:42,700 --> 05:10:46,320 design speeds of 25 miles per hour or less. 2062 05:10:46,980 --> 05:10:51,020 So, in each case, what's called a class 3, which means the bicycles are in the same 2063 05:10:51,020 --> 05:10:54,780 travel lane as the vehicles themselves. 2064 05:10:55,660 --> 05:11:01,020 You'll see when we start talking about the non-residential street types, again higher speeds, more volume. 2065 05:11:01,620 --> 05:11:04,080 In those cases, we will have a separated bicycle facility. 2066 05:11:05,820 --> 05:11:12,460 So then just to nitpick, I would love to see a Sherro in your drawing if you're going to use the street that way. 2067 05:11:12,480 --> 05:11:14,180 And I assume that's what you were going to do. 2068 05:11:14,700 --> 05:11:18,300 But I just think it would be helpful to have that visual too. Thank you. 2069 05:11:18,400 --> 05:11:19,200 Thank you. 2070 05:11:19,760 --> 05:11:20,500 Any other questions? 2071 05:11:21,780 --> 05:11:30,540 I had just one on this shared residential road, one with outside walks, the 150-foot maximum 2072 05:11:30,540 --> 05:11:31,000 length. 2073 05:11:31,720 --> 05:11:37,380 But thinking between having a maximum length or versus maximum homes served on that, kind of 2074 05:11:37,380 --> 05:11:39,720 give me a little more detail there, how did we land on that? 2075 05:11:40,180 --> 05:11:47,140 Currently, the county has a restriction, I think its six homes can access this type of very 2076 05:11:47,140 --> 05:11:48,760 narrow, slow speed street. 2077 05:11:49,660 --> 05:11:55,480 In some cases, that strictly depends upon which orientation the home has from the front door. 2078 05:11:56,420 --> 05:12:02,700 You have a current application where just based upon how the home is oriented, there are eight homes on that street. 2079 05:12:03,100 --> 05:12:08,880 Again, we think that the length is probably a better indicator without trying to dictate unit count. 2080 05:12:09,400 --> 05:12:17,040 But again, the intent is a very short street where vehicles cannot achieve a significant level of speed. 2081 05:12:17,040 --> 05:12:23,160 Got you. And is this new one? I tried looking in the ordinance. Is this the details? 2082 05:12:23,840 --> 05:12:26,300 Are they in the draft ordinance yet or because this is a new type? 2083 05:12:26,460 --> 05:12:29,400 That's one that we will need to put into words. Very much. 2084 05:12:29,760 --> 05:12:33,600 Yes. Okay. I've got a couple of comments. We'll wait till the end of the presentation on that. 2085 05:12:33,960 --> 05:12:34,840 Any other questions? 2086 05:12:36,000 --> 05:12:36,780 All right. 2087 05:12:37,040 --> 05:12:40,140 Okay. Let's turn to non-residential streets. 2088 05:12:43,000 --> 05:12:47,540 And frankly, you probably are not going to see a great number of these as new streets. 2089 05:12:47,540 --> 05:12:55,740 in the county. But in case you do for mixed use developments that are new, again, probably 2090 05:12:55,740 --> 05:13:00,580 very few, but we have a street type that features 10 foot wide sidewalks to accommodate 2091 05:13:00,580 --> 05:13:06,800 ground floor commercial use, street furniture, decorative lighting, etc. A zone for street 2092 05:13:06,800 --> 05:13:12,280 trees that could be in tree wells. And again, parking on both sides with fairly narrow 2093 05:13:12,280 --> 05:13:17,960 travel lanes for slower speeds. If these, this particular street would be on a bus route, however, 2094 05:13:17,960 --> 05:13:23,100 the lanes would be a bit wider to accommodate bus vehicles. And again, in this case, 2095 05:13:23,420 --> 05:13:28,700 as was questioned, bicycles would share the travel lanes. Again, this is intended to be a relatively 2096 05:13:28,700 --> 05:13:33,480 slow street, probably 25 miles per hour, as you would typically see in a lot of small downtowns. 2097 05:13:36,090 --> 05:13:39,650 And this is an example from Windsor of that type of street design. 2098 05:13:45,740 --> 05:13:47,260 Again, not likely to see 2099 05:13:47,260 --> 05:13:54,300 lot of new collector or arterial streets, but these would also in the new proposals have regular 2100 05:13:54,300 --> 05:14:00,300 eight foot sidewalks on each side. I'm sorry, on one side, and at the very strong recommendation 2101 05:14:00,300 --> 05:14:07,220 from the Brimbison Coalition, it would have a class one shared use path that is off of the pavement 2102 05:14:08,260 --> 05:14:17,240 on the other side of the street. Both would have parking on both sides, and in the case of the 2103 05:14:17,240 --> 05:14:23,060 widely wider lane for the additional traffic volumes, and it would have a center median or 2104 05:14:23,060 --> 05:14:26,560 turn lane, and there would be a pedestrian refuge if it had a center median. 2105 05:14:30,550 --> 05:14:31,010 And these are 2106 05:14:31,010 --> 05:14:36,430 existing examples, again, not entirely consistent with the new design proposal, but you can see 2107 05:14:36,430 --> 05:14:39,550 what a shared use path looks like on either. 2108 05:14:44,770 --> 05:14:47,950 And finally, this is a industrial commercial street type 2109 05:14:47,950 --> 05:14:53,510 the county currently has this in their code, but it's not mapped anywhere in the county. You do 2110 05:14:53,510 --> 05:14:59,970 have a lot of heavy industrial areas or, you know, fulfillment centers, that kind of thing, but if you do have a... 2111 05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:07,080 A future industrial type development, this is the design that we propose. It would have 12 foot travel lanes 2112 05:15:07,080 --> 05:15:13,080 again to accommodate trucks and it would have parking on either side, again, the planting strips 2113 05:15:13,080 --> 05:15:21,380 and sidewalks on both sides, again, to accommodate pedestrians and parking as well. And an example 2114 05:15:21,380 --> 05:15:28,240 from, again, from Windsor of an industrial street. And again, I will stop if there are any questions 2115 05:15:28,240 --> 05:15:30,100 of the boardhouse. 2116 05:15:31,060 --> 05:15:32,020 Supervisor Sackett. 2117 05:15:32,780 --> 05:15:33,440 Thank you. 2118 05:15:33,920 --> 05:15:39,180 On the Main Street public design you mentioned that there would be a width, but then that 2119 05:15:39,180 --> 05:15:42,840 width would be increased to accommodate if it was a bus route. 2120 05:15:43,580 --> 05:15:48,820 Is that going to be part of the code and how is, you know, sort of current versus determining 2121 05:15:48,820 --> 05:15:57,700 versus future bus routes determined on adding that additional width? 2122 05:15:58,180 --> 05:16:17,760 Yes, it would be in the code and again, the time of the application review contact would be made with the transit district to find out if it is a bus route or if it's a planned bus route and the decision we've made at that point based upon, you know, again, they're existing routes or planned routes. 2123 05:16:17,760 --> 05:16:27,880 So you are correct, I think, in your assumption that if it is not a bus route but at some point in the future would be, we are sort of stuck with this street design that we have. 2124 05:16:28,360 --> 05:16:29,700 I think Sarah has something to add. 2125 05:16:30,620 --> 05:16:44,100 Yes, I would just add Mr. Brown's exactly right and, you know, as much as we might have a scenario where we're in transit says, you know, we really would like to have a bus route there someday. 2126 05:16:44,100 --> 05:16:50,020 that really wouldn't be a basis for us to be able to apply the standard, you know, 2127 05:16:50,200 --> 05:16:55,960 a non-planned bus route would not be a basis that we could use to apply a higher 2128 05:16:55,960 --> 05:17:01,560 standard. So we need to stick with what's documented in plans. 2129 05:17:05,530 --> 05:17:07,950 I guess my colleagues 2130 05:17:07,950 --> 05:17:16,630 are also on my own transit, so maybe I've missed it. But I don't know that we 2131 05:17:16,630 --> 05:17:22,970 the county could rely on to look at. So I'm thinking of if we have a planned development and we 2132 05:17:24,090 --> 05:17:27,950 I mean on one hand if you're just going through the development you're probably going to put the bus 2133 05:17:27,950 --> 05:17:31,710 stop on the outside but I'm thinking if you have something that could then 2134 05:17:32,730 --> 05:17:36,070 become a pass through or you're going to want to add that whip. 2135 05:17:40,200 --> 05:17:48,460 These are good questions and one of the outcomes of this work is going to be 2136 05:17:48,460 --> 05:17:50,980 Okay, you know, what's next? 2137 05:17:51,000 --> 05:17:54,360 How do we then use this to leverage 2138 05:17:54,360 --> 05:17:55,680 where we wanna get to go? 2139 05:17:57,480 --> 05:18:01,180 And, you know, there's sort of ongoing discussions 2140 05:18:01,180 --> 05:18:04,000 with Marin Transit at the staff level 2141 05:18:04,000 --> 05:18:07,600 of how do we get better symbiosis 2142 05:18:07,600 --> 05:18:11,200 between what's happening with growth planning 2143 05:18:11,200 --> 05:18:13,880 and what's happening with transit planning? 2144 05:18:14,800 --> 05:18:17,620 So it goes back to that initial question, 2145 05:18:17,620 --> 05:18:26,100 And I think of, you know, when we have adopted standards, we are going to have ongoing work 2146 05:18:26,100 --> 05:18:34,900 to do on the collaboration and coordination with the other agencies that touch and shape 2147 05:18:34,900 --> 05:18:37,040 the streets and public spaces. 2148 05:18:37,620 --> 05:18:42,540 Was more in transit one of the stakeholders in this group? 2149 05:18:43,300 --> 05:18:52,500 Not a direct stakeholder in terms of a formal, focused group meeting, but I have that conversation with the staff there at Tam and the transit district. 2150 05:18:55,380 --> 05:19:10,280 But you know, one thing that we will take away from this workshop is kind of doing a further checkpoint with Marin transit around this process and these standards. 2151 05:19:11,160 --> 05:19:11,740 Thanks. 2152 05:19:12,160 --> 05:19:12,960 Thank you. 2153 05:19:14,460 --> 05:19:15,300 Any others? 2154 05:19:17,140 --> 05:19:17,420 All right. 2155 05:19:19,040 --> 05:19:21,680 Last point I would make has to do with exceptions. 2156 05:19:22,500 --> 05:19:25,320 So these standards are pretty straightforward to apply to new streets. 2157 05:19:26,000 --> 05:19:31,100 However, the county has a myriad of existing conditions out there right now, and in 2158 05:19:31,100 --> 05:19:35,840 many cases, these housing opportunities sites will be making improvement, frontage improvements 2159 05:19:35,840 --> 05:19:40,260 to existing streets which are in compared to the new standards would be substandard. 2160 05:19:40,260 --> 05:19:59,980 So, the question is, how to deal with those situations and what's proposed is for housing sites that have a frontage of 300 feet or less and a consistent non-conforming street design, a thousand feet now, the direction, the developer. 2161 05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:27,380 Our could continue that existing street design. However, to accommodate future needs for widening and improvements, what we would do is we would require that the developer up front dedicated the right away for our ultimate designs and also enter into a deferred improvement agreement with the county. So at some point in the future, if there was a need to improve the frontage, the county would have that ability to require it. 2162 05:20:27,380 --> 05:20:39,620 And then a second exemption would apply in very rare cases where extending an existing collector or a terryl-stree that would not have a JSON development. 2163 05:20:40,880 --> 05:20:48,380 An example might be, for example, if the development of St. Vincent's requires a secondary access, which it will. 2164 05:20:48,380 --> 05:20:53,680 extending, for example, severe a parkway across the undevelopable severe a property. 2165 05:20:54,020 --> 05:20:57,780 There's not really much of a need for parking in those situations. 2166 05:20:58,280 --> 05:21:05,540 And having sidewalk, for example, on both sides, would not necessarily be a good use of the paved area. 2167 05:21:06,160 --> 05:21:08,580 So in these cases, we're calling these connector streets. 2168 05:21:08,960 --> 05:21:14,660 If it is connecting and existing collector or arterial, that has no development along it, 2169 05:21:14,660 --> 05:21:24,200 We have a design that would require no parking, but also a class one shared use path on one side of the street only. 2170 05:21:26,160 --> 05:21:31,780 And with that, I'm going to turn it back over to the Assistant Public Works Director. 2171 05:21:33,420 --> 05:21:33,760 Thank you. 2172 05:21:34,040 --> 05:21:40,340 Are there any questions or comments regarding those items of the exceptions? 2173 05:21:41,540 --> 05:21:47,600 Anything specific to the exceptions or ready to just move on to general feedback or deliberational 2174 05:21:47,600 --> 05:21:47,920 assessment. 2175 05:21:47,920 --> 05:21:49,020 There's additional presentation. 2176 05:21:49,700 --> 05:21:50,600 Just a quick question. 2177 05:21:51,040 --> 05:21:51,420 An obvious question. 2178 05:21:53,280 --> 05:21:56,140 What do we require now on those front-each improvements? 2179 05:21:57,100 --> 05:22:00,360 What's different from the exception or is there a difference? 2180 05:22:02,260 --> 05:22:09,160 I think the key issue there is that this is intended as an exception for the new design standards 2181 05:22:09,160 --> 05:22:15,160 where the new design standards are requiring the parking on the street and we are 2182 05:22:15,160 --> 05:22:19,680 acknowledging that there are locations where that is not necessary or appropriate. 2183 05:22:20,720 --> 05:22:24,900 I think I got to get to that question is how do we handle it now and largely 2184 05:22:24,900 --> 05:22:31,520 through and negotiate a session with the developer to arrive at mutually agreed upon 2185 05:22:31,520 --> 05:22:35,940 improvements. So again, trying to transition to objective standards, we have to be 2186 05:22:35,940 --> 05:22:37,340 So 2187 05:22:42,080 --> 05:22:55,600 wrapping up the key discussion topics that we have, we anticipate that key issues are the introduction of a difference between public and private streets. 2188 05:22:56,100 --> 05:23:03,400 And that's primarily driven by the desire to have public streets and meet the standards that we've outlined. 2189 05:23:03,400 --> 05:23:10,200 and trying to incentivize developers to not just fall back to the minimum safety standards. 2190 05:23:13,320 --> 05:23:19,600 In addition, we've introduced that topic we just mentioned with regard to the frontage improvements 2191 05:23:19,600 --> 05:23:23,440 and how we require those frontage improvements to be made. 2192 05:23:24,300 --> 05:23:29,720 And the other topic that we have anticipated is more of a new issue for us, 2193 05:23:29,720 --> 05:23:36,840 is the introduction of the new low speed street designs that Bob just showed you. 2194 05:23:39,780 --> 05:23:40,640 Is there any further 2195 05:23:40,640 --> 05:23:47,360 discussion on those topics? All right, let's see. I think we could as I conclude the presentation. 2196 05:23:47,920 --> 05:23:55,360 Yeah, other than next steps. Oh, when are you going to go into next step? Yeah, we'll do. So we will 2197 05:23:55,360 --> 05:23:57,600 We'll see if your feedback and comments 2198 05:23:57,600 --> 05:24:02,700 and our next steps following revision of those standards 2199 05:24:02,700 --> 05:24:07,000 as appropriate will be a public hearing to introduce 2200 05:24:07,000 --> 05:24:10,460 the ordinance and the target date for that 2201 05:24:10,460 --> 05:24:12,520 is October the 13th. 2202 05:24:12,520 --> 05:24:15,920 Following that, we are looking for adoption of the ordinance 2203 05:24:15,920 --> 05:24:19,420 on a consent calendar item targeting early November. 2204 05:24:20,880 --> 05:24:22,380 That concludes our presentation. 2205 05:24:23,140 --> 05:24:23,380 All right. 2206 05:24:24,380 --> 05:24:25,260 Thank you. 2207 05:24:25,500 --> 05:24:31,600 I, maybe at this point, we can go to public comment and then I'm sure each of us will have additional comments on this. 2208 05:24:31,700 --> 05:24:35,180 This is just a workshop we're providing direction and shared then it would come back. 2209 05:24:35,960 --> 05:24:39,320 So, maybe that will see is there any public comment here in the chambers on this item. 2210 05:24:41,220 --> 05:24:42,200 There we'll go online. 2211 05:24:42,380 --> 05:24:43,780 I see one hand up. 2212 05:24:46,550 --> 05:24:48,550 Warren Wells, you may now unmute. 2213 05:24:50,660 --> 05:24:54,460 So we're going to look at members of the board, this is Warren Wells with the Miranda Kaye. 2214 05:24:54,460 --> 05:24:59,680 By so coalition, I want to call in and place strong support staffs. 2215 05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:23,960 Recommendations here for the proposed development of design standards. I really do want to express my amortizations appreciation to staff and consulting team on this effort, as well as some conversations they had with the county executive and taking taking feedback from the first, first, past on this, to what you see before you now, particularly on the collector and our tierial cross street sections. 2216 05:25:23,960 --> 05:25:31,180 As I mentioned, those all now include a shared use path above the curb, 2217 05:25:31,640 --> 05:25:39,400 compared a lot to the road, as opposed to painted or flex-post-separated bike lanes in the road way. 2218 05:25:40,900 --> 05:25:45,100 That I know that I took some, some, some, some is going to take a little modifying of the bike 2219 05:25:45,100 --> 05:25:48,940 plan, so I really appreciate the extra going above and beyond to get that in there. 2220 05:25:50,560 --> 05:25:54,980 You know, as I mentioned, these standards may not find that many uses in rent at this point, 2221 05:25:55,420 --> 05:25:57,580 but getting them right now will be critical. 2222 05:25:58,140 --> 05:26:03,860 If the standards were posed, today had been the ones used when building out Marin during the last century, 2223 05:26:04,480 --> 05:26:07,480 my job might not need to exist because we'd already have a complete bite network. 2224 05:26:08,520 --> 05:26:12,980 Critical to most people, choose to get it around by bicycle as they have to feel safe doing so. 2225 05:26:13,260 --> 05:26:16,900 Painted by planes don't always do that, because people in a jam they can be hit from behind, 2226 05:26:16,900 --> 05:26:19,940 physical protection and creates separation like a zebra pose here. 2227 05:26:20,640 --> 05:26:20,800 It does. 2228 05:26:21,320 --> 05:26:22,980 I just do one to make one quick note, 2229 05:26:23,160 --> 05:26:25,080 filling up a comment from Supervisor Morton Peters. 2230 05:26:26,280 --> 05:26:28,040 On those main street standards, 2231 05:26:28,800 --> 05:26:31,900 you know, I really think we need to make sure that the design speed is very low. 2232 05:26:33,420 --> 05:26:37,320 That 10 to 15 mile per hour range to get the interest and, 2233 05:26:37,340 --> 05:26:40,900 but concern writers to actually be comfortable sharing in the roadway 2234 05:26:41,840 --> 05:26:42,720 with motor vehicles. 2235 05:26:43,480 --> 05:26:45,000 So, again, looking forward to seeing 2236 05:26:45,000 --> 05:26:48,920 The next steps on this effort, I appreciate all the work that's going to this day. 2237 05:26:49,060 --> 05:26:50,280 Thanks so much. 2238 05:26:51,040 --> 05:26:51,520 Thank you, Warren. 2239 05:26:51,920 --> 05:26:57,300 We'll close public comment and we'll go to my colleagues for comments direction or feedback. 2240 05:26:57,820 --> 05:27:02,590 Who wants to start a supervisor moment, Peters? 2241 05:27:02,750 --> 05:27:03,690 Be happy to. 2242 05:27:04,070 --> 05:27:09,870 If I might ask a last question, I think supervisor Rodney might have asked you this, Robin. 2243 05:27:09,870 --> 05:27:20,030 but for this exemption for projects with less than 300 feet on the frontage and the non-conforming 2244 05:27:20,030 --> 05:27:24,750 street condition extends a thousand feet in both directions and so I can think of a lot of stretches 2245 05:27:24,750 --> 05:27:30,630 of roadway that meet that right now that might get developed over time. So what's our thought 2246 05:27:30,630 --> 05:27:35,190 about how those will be developed or maybe Bob, that's a question for you. I'm not sure, but 2247 05:27:35,190 --> 05:27:36,990 I didn't understand how we closed the loop 2248 05:27:36,990 --> 05:27:40,230 and get them developed in the future to the standard. 2249 05:27:41,990 --> 05:27:45,650 Well, the basic requirement is that 2250 05:27:45,650 --> 05:27:49,190 the developer developed the frontage to that standard. 2251 05:27:50,030 --> 05:27:53,010 We just anticipate that there will be many conditions 2252 05:27:53,010 --> 05:27:56,870 where it may be mutually advantageous 2253 05:27:56,870 --> 05:28:00,290 that we not develop at that time. 2254 05:28:01,410 --> 05:28:04,170 And perhaps wait until other developments come in 2255 05:28:04,170 --> 05:28:06,230 so that we can have a more continuous improvement. 2256 05:28:07,450 --> 05:28:11,770 So the mechanism would be that the developer would be required 2257 05:28:11,770 --> 05:28:15,030 to provide the right of way to us at that time 2258 05:28:15,030 --> 05:28:16,930 to make the future development possible, 2259 05:28:17,570 --> 05:28:20,610 and would also need to enter into a agreement 2260 05:28:20,610 --> 05:28:22,990 with us to fund those improvements. 2261 05:28:23,250 --> 05:28:23,410 I see. 2262 05:28:24,030 --> 05:28:24,930 Okay, great. 2263 05:28:25,410 --> 05:28:26,650 That's the clarity I needed. 2264 05:28:26,710 --> 05:28:27,550 Thank you for that. 2265 05:28:27,730 --> 05:28:29,650 And just let me thank you all the whole team 2266 05:28:29,650 --> 05:28:31,030 for bringing this to us. 2267 05:28:31,130 --> 05:28:32,170 It has been long needed. 2268 05:28:32,170 --> 05:28:38,170 And I'm glad that we are going to have them going forward for the development that we expect 2269 05:28:38,170 --> 05:28:38,810 to see. 2270 05:28:39,230 --> 05:28:40,630 So thank you very much. 2271 05:28:41,610 --> 05:28:41,910 Others? 2272 05:28:42,750 --> 05:28:42,970 Anything? 2273 05:28:43,830 --> 05:28:44,910 Supervisor Sackett? 2274 05:28:45,290 --> 05:28:46,210 Or, and then, super. 2275 05:28:46,890 --> 05:28:47,330 Yeah. 2276 05:28:48,770 --> 05:28:52,250 So just kind of starting with that connector street. 2277 05:28:52,670 --> 05:28:56,350 And Mr. Brown, I appreciate the example you gave. 2278 05:28:56,350 --> 05:29:03,550 That actually gives me pause to think that we have what could be a connector street 2279 05:29:03,550 --> 05:29:09,170 to St. Vincent's, which is very straight, which I would think would encourage high speeds. 2280 05:29:09,690 --> 05:29:17,530 And we have a parallel street of Silvera Parkway on the other side of the railroad tracks on this side. 2281 05:29:17,550 --> 05:29:20,230 And it just has a sidewalk on one side. 2282 05:29:20,250 --> 05:29:24,510 And I've had two or three community meetings out there saying can you put a sidewalk on the other side. 2283 05:29:24,510 --> 05:29:31,610 So, it makes me think about those connector streets and whether, you know, is there a way to add 2284 05:29:32,670 --> 05:29:38,990 in particular when you have long and straight that is going to encourage us to feed 2285 05:29:40,330 --> 05:29:44,650 any way that, welcome your thoughts on that? 2286 05:29:45,170 --> 05:29:50,610 Well, we certainly can add criteria and other design standards as long as they're objective. 2287 05:29:50,610 --> 05:29:59,870 So if there is, you know, a specified length, there have to be traffic calming, incorporated design features, you know, we can stipulate. 2288 05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:02,900 So, that's something we could definitely look at. 2289 05:30:03,100 --> 05:30:04,840 I would go ahead. 2290 05:30:06,720 --> 05:30:14,920 And the approach that we would take on that would be the same as elsewhere, where, you know, we 2291 05:30:14,920 --> 05:30:24,260 look to identify the specific, the specific demonstrable safety issue associated with it. 2292 05:30:24,260 --> 05:30:30,200 and then develop standards that are going to be able to fall under the threshold of that 2293 05:30:30,200 --> 05:30:37,480 safety issue. That's important for the purpose of making sure that these requirements 2294 05:30:37,480 --> 05:30:47,220 can stick and that they can't be waived out of because we can't connect it to that specific 2295 05:30:47,220 --> 05:30:55,220 safety finding. Okay. In that particular example, I hope we can kind of flush that out a little bit 2296 05:30:55,220 --> 05:31:03,380 more and think through whether we have as strictive safety standards. And then how on all of these 2297 05:31:03,380 --> 05:31:11,520 are you thinking about working with the other municipalities and also the sewer and utility partners so 2298 05:31:11,520 --> 05:31:16,660 that none of this, we are in an island and non-incorporated marine on any of this. 2299 05:31:16,740 --> 05:31:21,780 And so how are you bringing them into this discussion and how do you foresee that going forward? 2300 05:31:21,880 --> 05:31:27,100 Or is this really just marine county ordinance and there won't be any conflicts? 2301 05:31:31,060 --> 05:31:38,420 So, you know, of course streets don't, streets are exist to connect places. 2302 05:31:38,420 --> 05:31:40,740 And so they do cross jurisdictional lines. 2303 05:31:40,880 --> 05:31:44,140 And I think you can think about sort of Francis Drake 2304 05:31:44,140 --> 05:31:45,440 as a really good example. 2305 05:31:45,720 --> 05:31:48,940 How many different jurisdictions does that one street 2306 05:31:48,940 --> 05:31:53,440 go through and you can really feel that you're in a different place 2307 05:31:53,440 --> 05:31:55,980 when you're on different parts of that street. 2308 05:31:56,500 --> 05:32:00,400 And it is more and less safe in some places, 2309 05:32:01,140 --> 05:32:02,880 better and worse traffic flow. 2310 05:32:02,880 --> 05:32:22,780 So, you know, we have been focusing on this top priority issue of getting these design standards in place so that we, so that we have the right tools to accommodate the development that is coming in now. 2311 05:32:24,860 --> 05:32:48,180 That will then expand to further conversations with our partner jurisdictions that we do a lot of our housing planning with, you know, together with and work to get, work to get consistency across jurisdictions maybe not in exactly what the standards are themselves. 2312 05:32:48,180 --> 05:32:53,580 but at least in the concepts and the safety findings behind them. 2313 05:32:53,800 --> 05:32:56,640 So that's an important area for coordination. 2314 05:32:57,440 --> 05:33:00,140 With the utility and sewer districts, 2315 05:33:00,920 --> 05:33:05,660 that will be a critical issue, particularly in phase three, 2316 05:33:05,820 --> 05:33:10,660 when we're addressing the other aspects of our infrastructure standards. 2317 05:33:10,660 --> 05:33:21,180 and coordination with those partner agencies will be a central component of developing that. 2318 05:33:22,180 --> 05:33:29,720 There's also another area which is relevant, regardless of what the standards are, 2319 05:33:30,000 --> 05:33:33,320 which is just how we coordinate during the development review process. 2320 05:33:33,920 --> 05:33:39,460 And that is separate, effort and a separate piece that we're working on because it's really important 2321 05:33:39,460 --> 05:33:47,280 that everybody's needs and requirements are understood at the appropriate stage in development 2322 05:33:47,280 --> 05:33:55,020 approvals. And we still have some work to do together with our partner agencies on that front. 2323 05:33:55,880 --> 05:34:01,960 I would just add if I might that these standards are much more similar to standards in the adjacent 2324 05:34:01,960 --> 05:34:08,160 cities for new developments. So they're less inconsistent than they have been in the past which is good. 2325 05:34:08,160 --> 05:34:11,240 And we did share these with Sarah Fel and their public were 2326 05:34:11,240 --> 05:34:13,920 staffed and appreciate the direction we were going in. 2327 05:34:16,230 --> 05:34:23,130 And then on the, there was a mention of streetscape amenities. 2328 05:34:23,870 --> 05:34:28,570 It were benches, transit stops, street furniture, and having benchmarks. 2329 05:34:29,670 --> 05:34:34,910 And I was trying to understand what are benchmarks in that is, 2330 05:34:34,910 --> 05:34:35,930 is that objective? 2331 05:34:40,180 --> 05:34:45,960 I think a number of those aspects will continue to be refined, particularly in the phase 2332 05:34:45,960 --> 05:34:53,060 three of this process, and we will need to have objective standards and county-wide standards 2333 05:34:53,060 --> 05:34:54,460 for a number of those items. 2334 05:34:58,480 --> 05:34:58,880 Thank you. 2335 05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:13,680 Always, I'm going to just chime in here real quick. I have a child care thing I have to take care of. So I'm going to have to step out hand them, you know, the Super Resumlement Peters, but supervisor, second, giving the opportunity to just get my quick comment and really thank you for all the work on this. 2336 05:35:14,320 --> 05:35:25,780 The additional feedback I have is actually going back to that shared residential road. I know that this phase one applies to all the city center and bail-ins corridor, which is a big chunk. 2337 05:35:25,780 --> 05:35:30,220 actually includes all of the district five I believe in looking at the map in terms of the 2338 05:35:30,220 --> 05:35:37,220 developer world area. I think my feedback around that shared residential road component is we 2339 05:35:37,220 --> 05:35:44,380 have several HOD sites that are sort of on the outskirts of the city of Naudo and Unincorporated 2340 05:35:44,380 --> 05:35:49,340 Nevada that are in areas where there is no existing sidewalk network on the major connections. 2341 05:35:50,140 --> 05:35:56,420 And so I question whether or not 150 feet is the appropriate amount, I mean, I could see it 2342 05:35:57,040 --> 05:36:01,040 incentivizing certain developers to go to private roads, chopping up their streets in 2343 05:36:01,040 --> 05:36:05,940 a way, but they're also not connecting to any existing sidewalk network. 2344 05:36:06,520 --> 05:36:11,520 I don't know if there is another objective standard we could introduce where if it is single 2345 05:36:11,520 --> 05:36:17,760 family homes, if it's not connecting to an existing sidewalk network, you know, maybe there 2346 05:36:17,760 --> 05:36:21,780 is some sort of other waiver, not that they would let them off the hook, maybe we can get 2347 05:36:21,780 --> 05:36:23,840 some deeper setbacks in those lots. 2348 05:36:24,500 --> 05:36:30,520 I know it's very hard to make that objective, but I see kind of shoe-harning requirements 2349 05:36:30,520 --> 05:36:35,660 for sidewalks in small, single-family, you know, 10, 20, 30-home developments that are not 2350 05:36:35,660 --> 05:36:43,820 connected to any existing sidewalk network, there might be a better way to cite that project. 2351 05:36:45,240 --> 05:36:50,620 challenges. How do you do it objectively? Is it to give them deeper setbacks? Is the exception 2352 05:36:50,620 --> 05:36:56,020 if it's not connected to an existing sidewalk network? Maybe a little more than just 150 2353 05:36:56,020 --> 05:37:00,260 feet. I don't think we need to come up with that answer right now, but I just want to provide that 2354 05:37:00,260 --> 05:37:03,900 as a comment. If I have additional thoughts, I will send them over as well. 2355 05:37:04,340 --> 05:37:12,000 Thank you, President Leakon. That's really useful feedback. As I was listening to you, 2356 05:37:12,000 --> 05:37:17,080 Well, one possible route to consider on this 2357 05:37:17,080 --> 05:37:20,980 and I'm not certain that it'll be the right way to go, 2358 05:37:21,300 --> 05:37:24,200 but it may be that once we have gone through phase two 2359 05:37:24,200 --> 05:37:25,800 and developed rural standards, 2360 05:37:26,400 --> 05:37:30,880 there might be some locations within phase one 2361 05:37:30,880 --> 05:37:33,600 where the rural standards really make more sense. 2362 05:37:33,840 --> 05:37:39,580 So that's sort of a third option to the two that you just 2363 05:37:40,660 --> 05:37:43,240 of accommodating the kind of situation that you're addressing. 2364 05:37:43,880 --> 05:37:46,500 Yeah, I would hope we can try to accommodate it in this. 2365 05:37:46,540 --> 05:37:49,160 And if we still need to clean it up later, we can do that. 2366 05:37:49,760 --> 05:37:53,140 But, you know, some of these HOD sites are very rural in nature. 2367 05:37:53,200 --> 05:37:57,340 And it would be the first sidewalk that's kind of seen in that whole general area. 2368 05:37:57,560 --> 05:38:01,060 Sometimes there's better ways to make those projects better. 2369 05:38:01,180 --> 05:38:02,920 I mean, most of them, I think we do want sidewalks. 2370 05:38:03,560 --> 05:38:07,700 But if you just discretionally, you'd say, yes, sometimes they don't always make sense. 2371 05:38:07,700 --> 05:38:09,340 and figuring out how do we make that objective. 2372 05:38:10,200 --> 05:38:12,420 So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Supervisor Mollon Peters, 2373 05:38:12,540 --> 05:38:15,040 and I think Supervisor Sacket has some additional questions, 2374 05:38:15,640 --> 05:38:17,800 and apologize for the child care shuffle today. 2375 05:38:17,940 --> 05:38:18,260 Thank you. 2376 05:38:18,380 --> 05:38:22,020 That's okay, because now I can disagree with what you just said. 2377 05:38:25,130 --> 05:38:26,070 Wait, wait until I said that. 2378 05:38:26,190 --> 05:38:28,330 I told you all, we were going to have fun today. 2379 05:38:30,520 --> 05:38:32,500 But Mary, what did you go first? 2380 05:38:33,020 --> 05:38:36,100 Yeah, I might share your sentiment on that. 2381 05:38:36,100 --> 05:38:39,380 And I think we have a couple of projects that are in the pipeline now 2382 05:38:39,380 --> 05:38:44,680 that are trying to avoid sidewalks so we have an opportunity to test that. 2383 05:38:45,300 --> 05:38:52,060 So I want to talk about the dedicated right away easements and if you could explain that to me a 2384 05:38:52,060 --> 05:38:58,740 little bit and for future generations, I always want to ensure that we aren't having like abandon 2385 05:39:00,800 --> 05:39:05,620 or parcels because we have too many of those in this county. So what does it? 2386 05:39:06,600 --> 05:39:13,780 If it's our goal but it doesn't happen for 10, 20, 30 years, who's maintaining it, etc. in the meantime? 2387 05:39:16,700 --> 05:39:24,860 Yes, there's an inherent challenge with those sites because if you require the developer to build everything, 2388 05:39:24,920 --> 05:39:32,020 which is our fundamental standard here, then there is some risk that you have the infrastructure that is constructed, 2389 05:39:32,020 --> 05:39:38,640 get some minimal use and then requires ongoing maintenance of walls not really 2390 05:39:38,640 --> 05:39:45,720 serving it's intended purpose. So we're seeking to strike a balance and of 2391 05:39:45,720 --> 05:39:51,660 course the key if anything is not built at the bare minimum is you've got to 2392 05:39:51,660 --> 05:39:57,940 get the right of way. We don't want to acquire right of way at a later date and 2393 05:39:57,940 --> 05:39:59,960 These are all on locations where 2394 05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:07,860 We have a high degree of confidence that there will be future development and that we really want these improvements that we're describing. 2395 05:40:09,060 --> 05:40:14,840 So we're seeking to find that balance and we also want to make sure that it's not just here's the right of way. 2396 05:40:15,300 --> 05:40:28,180 And then we're scrambling around to find the funding and it remains unimproved because we don't have the funding. So it also goes hand in hand with the funding being provided by the developer. 2397 05:40:29,320 --> 05:40:34,740 And I'll just hop in just to say from, you know, and my experience is that I appreciate 2398 05:40:34,740 --> 05:40:39,480 your point that, you know, part of it is in the subdivision process, you know, for creating 2399 05:40:39,480 --> 05:40:45,400 remnant parcels, you know, how are we forming HOAs or community facilities, districts, you know, 2400 05:40:45,480 --> 05:40:50,360 my preference to make sure that there's the funding source and the responsibility and clarity 2401 05:40:50,360 --> 05:40:55,800 of title moving forward. It's not uncommon, you know, I mean, a good subdivision is going to require 2402 05:40:55,800 --> 05:41:01,860 all that up in the improvements in advance, you know, before finalizing and selling the lots. 2403 05:41:02,460 --> 05:41:08,620 And so we need to have clear standards in our subdivision section of our code as well to 2404 05:41:08,620 --> 05:41:13,700 make sure we have, you know, a plan in place to maintain those improvements both during the 2405 05:41:13,700 --> 05:41:17,000 interim and long-term, ultimately they're conveyed to the county. 2406 05:41:21,340 --> 05:41:24,060 Okay, and so I'm going to make 2407 05:41:24,060 --> 05:41:30,920 my comment in contrast to supervisor Luke and that in Southern Marin, which was also very rural 2408 05:41:30,920 --> 05:41:37,300 at one point in time. We've had a number of small subdivisions, which over time have grown 2409 05:41:37,300 --> 05:41:43,880 into unplanned neighborhoods that lack sidewalks and the subdivisions were not connected initially 2410 05:41:43,880 --> 05:41:50,800 and looked like they were isolated, but over time, by gosh, we filled it up. You have a neighborhood 2411 05:41:50,800 --> 05:41:59,020 Similarly, the horse hill area of Mul Valley, where just today we approved the Lomida street rehabilitation plan. 2412 05:41:59,080 --> 05:42:05,380 That is another neighborhood that does not have sidewalks continuously because of the way it was built out. 2413 05:42:05,780 --> 05:42:07,800 And parts of the neighborhood have sidewalks. 2414 05:42:07,980 --> 05:42:10,980 Others don't. And there's Edna McGuire's school right there. 2415 05:42:11,720 --> 05:42:18,340 So we are spending a lot of money retrofitting neighborhoods that were developed with a lot of planning for being neighborhoods. 2416 05:42:18,340 --> 05:42:28,440 So I'm going to ask us to really think about these areas where infill may happen and that they will fill in over time. 2417 05:42:28,600 --> 05:42:33,620 And we need to make sure they have connected sidewalks or someplace for pedestrians and bikes. 2418 05:42:34,560 --> 05:42:36,940 Even if we don't build them all right away. 2419 05:42:38,180 --> 05:42:40,400 So yes, please supervise every donate. 2420 05:42:40,600 --> 05:42:41,720 Yeah, thank you. 2421 05:42:41,720 --> 05:42:49,640 present on Peter's. I wanted to suggest that maybe we look at putting the maximum length and 2422 05:42:49,640 --> 05:42:57,320 and the speed in the alley category. We didn't do that. We did it in the shared residential 2423 05:42:57,320 --> 05:43:02,840 private road. But just wondering if there's a rationale for that, you can come back and 2424 05:43:02,840 --> 05:43:07,780 rest that later. It just seems like it's an opportunity to look at that and see if there's a rationale 2425 05:43:07,780 --> 05:43:13,040 for a length of that alley, and also that speed, maybe an issue for safety. 2426 05:43:14,260 --> 05:43:20,320 But more generally, when we're dealing with private roads, and this will come up again in 2427 05:43:20,320 --> 05:43:25,720 the rural discussion, but often the developer or the sub-dividers long gone by the time 2428 05:43:25,720 --> 05:43:27,660 maintenance needs to happen on these roads. 2429 05:43:28,400 --> 05:43:36,500 So I would favor a requirement to post a sign, non-county maintain road on every private 2430 05:43:36,500 --> 05:43:43,260 road that's in the development and some required to maintain that, I think would take a lot of 2431 05:43:43,260 --> 05:43:48,360 calls off our desk in the future because that seems to be, but we hear a lot about why 2432 05:43:48,360 --> 05:43:52,340 aren't you maintaining my road and I want to always, it's a non-county maintain road. 2433 05:43:52,720 --> 05:43:56,400 So, anyway, to try and address that early, you may be a way to do that, and if you have 2434 05:43:56,400 --> 05:44:01,900 any other ideas how to do that, but I think remembering to often develop for some dividers 2435 05:44:01,900 --> 05:44:05,840 long gone by the time maintenance is required and that's that choose the 2436 05:44:05,840 --> 05:44:10,300 a problem for the homeowners to live there at that point. So unless they're 2437 05:44:10,300 --> 05:44:14,220 very well organized HOA. Thank you. 2438 05:44:22,420 --> 05:44:27,360 Right, I'm running this meeting. With that, we are, did you, did you, if you got 2439 05:44:27,360 --> 05:44:30,980 enough input or is there anything like, let me just double check with the staff 2440 05:44:30,980 --> 05:44:34,300 to see if we, because I think our next staff has to come back with an 2441 05:44:34,300 --> 05:44:37,800 ordinance. So we'd like to button this up pretty good and make sure we've got 2442 05:44:37,800 --> 05:44:45,200 everything done, and so if we can have Chris and team, if you want to just respond back 2443 05:44:45,200 --> 05:44:48,140 to any of the comments and how we're perceived for the next steps. 2444 05:44:48,640 --> 05:44:56,440 One thing that I wanted to suggest is, you know, we did have some really fruitful discussions 2445 05:44:56,440 --> 05:44:59,820 with the Planning Commission and based on what they said. 2446 05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:09,960 Made some modifications and that's where, you know, these ways to provide flexibility and different approaches on the shared streets. 2447 05:45:10,340 --> 05:45:13,640 You know, that's kind of what precipitated those getting brought in here. 2448 05:45:14,500 --> 05:45:24,060 So if we can find a way to squeeze it in in this timeline, recognizing the importance of moving things along, 2449 05:45:24,060 --> 05:45:48,280 I'm going to look at our new planning director, Julie Crog on this, but we're going to think about trying to bring this back to the planning commission for further discussion on how their input was reflected, what we're now looking to bring forward, letting them know what the boards input was. 2450 05:45:48,280 --> 05:45:55,000 This is not part of the development code, so it's not strictly something that the planning 2451 05:45:55,000 --> 05:46:02,080 commission would is required under code to be providing a recommendation to your board on, 2452 05:46:02,760 --> 05:46:14,000 but they're input and expertise on how to get to good places is really invaluable to us here, 2453 05:46:14,000 --> 05:46:17,900 And I think we'll help advance the ordinance too. 2454 05:46:21,920 --> 05:46:22,520 Thank you. 2455 05:46:23,280 --> 05:46:27,960 And Supervisor Multon Peters, I wanted to just quickly recap the notes and the themes that 2456 05:46:27,960 --> 05:46:32,660 I heard and try to talk a little bit about how I think we can try to address those as we bring 2457 05:46:32,660 --> 05:46:36,660 something back, whether that goes back to the planning commission as a first stop before coming 2458 05:46:36,660 --> 05:46:38,940 back to the board or if we bring an ordinance back here. 2459 05:46:39,660 --> 05:46:44,200 I think it's very easy for us to show and require Sheros and the shared bike examples. 2460 05:46:44,200 --> 05:46:49,600 I appreciate that feedback along the same lines we heard from Mr. Wells with MCBC. 2461 05:46:49,940 --> 05:46:55,500 I think that we can look to design speeds and setting design speeds to something very low, 2462 05:46:55,880 --> 05:46:58,200 10 to 15 miles per hour for those shared facilities. 2463 05:46:59,100 --> 05:47:05,120 I think that's also consistent with Supervisor Rodonis feedback in his comments about the alleyways 2464 05:47:05,120 --> 05:47:09,440 and other streets where we want to make sure that we're really clear with the developers 2465 05:47:09,440 --> 05:47:16,340 as they propose these designs that we have on narrow facilities where we have people and bikes 2466 05:47:16,340 --> 05:47:21,620 and kids like mine riding around, you know, after school, that we have very low speeds 2467 05:47:21,620 --> 05:47:27,880 and that the designs are making sure that those speed stay low. So I appreciate that feedback. 2468 05:47:28,400 --> 05:47:33,420 I think those are things we'll talk with our team with our consultants and with Bob about 2469 05:47:33,420 --> 05:47:37,420 how we can modify what we've proposed to try to incorporate those elements. 2470 05:47:38,860 --> 05:47:44,080 I'm picking up that we're going to need to go back and have more conversations very specifically 2471 05:47:44,080 --> 05:47:51,740 with Marin Transit with the primary sanitary districts as well as with the major water districts 2472 05:47:51,740 --> 05:47:58,840 for water and north for water district. And I think we just need to ask them point blank. How 2473 05:47:58,840 --> 05:48:03,760 would we work with you with these new standards to try to incorporate? And there isn't one over 2474 05:48:03,760 --> 05:48:07,400 arching authority in the county that approves development. We have to work with our partners 2475 05:48:07,400 --> 05:48:13,280 agencies. I think our expectation is that having our standards very clear will probably help 2476 05:48:13,280 --> 05:48:18,680 that moving forward, but I think it's worth us going and asking the question and getting their 2477 05:48:18,680 --> 05:48:22,420 perspective and making sure if there's other opportunities that we can build that into these 2478 05:48:22,420 --> 05:48:27,200 standards and kind of require that coordination that that gets baked in. So thank you for that 2479 05:48:27,200 --> 05:48:28,160 supervisor, second. 2480 05:48:30,480 --> 05:48:34,640 In terms of benchmarks, you know, for the furnishings and things, there's some 2481 05:48:34,640 --> 05:48:42,540 terminology, I think we have room to go through and clean up some terminology. So we'll do a scan of all of this before it comes back and make sure that 2482 05:48:42,540 --> 05:48:51,260 If we're talking about objective standards that we define that and we just use that same term instead of interchanging it with other things to make that more clear. 2483 05:48:53,200 --> 05:48:57,640 In terms of the shared residential roads and 2484 05:48:57,640 --> 05:49:04,900 And some of the supervisor look in suggestion about the number of units, and adjacent sidewalk 2485 05:49:04,900 --> 05:49:09,580 network, and then how that displays the Supervisor Molten Peters comments, kind of looking 2486 05:49:09,580 --> 05:49:15,760 at that same scenario, maybe 30, 40 years later, and how that evolves into what we have 2487 05:49:15,760 --> 05:49:19,060 in more Southern Marin than what we have more in Northern and Western Marin. 2488 05:49:20,600 --> 05:49:23,460 That's a balance that we're going to have to go back and try to strike. 2489 05:49:23,460 --> 05:49:30,260 we're gonna see if we can figure out an objective way to get to yes on all of that because I think 2490 05:49:30,260 --> 05:49:36,780 every situation has requires something a little different and trying to apply a one-size-fits-all 2491 05:49:36,780 --> 05:49:41,900 which is really what we're required to do by the state is very very challenging. So let us go back 2492 05:49:41,900 --> 05:49:48,940 and work with our teams of experts and see maybe what other communities have done and how we 2493 05:49:48,940 --> 05:49:53,060 might be able to take those specific examples and try to apply something to them that works. 2494 05:49:53,060 --> 05:49:59,980 Chris, if I might on that point, it one thing that you could do is just prevent building in the... 2495 05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:17,020 Area that could be succumb a sidewalk in the future, whether it's planting or, you know, a little brick walls. That has been the biggest impediment for us to recover the area to install sidewalks is a fact that people have developed that little strip. 2496 05:50:17,300 --> 05:50:26,960 Or reserve it as a part of the right of way and have some kind of restrictive some kind of restrictions on top of that. I think that's great feedback and suggestion. Thank you. 2497 05:50:28,360 --> 05:50:34,460 I'm getting to my next notes, again, Supervisor Sackett, your comments about dedicated right 2498 05:50:34,460 --> 05:50:39,080 of way and who maintains this and a Supervisor Rodoni mentioned, you know, these developers 2499 05:50:39,080 --> 05:50:43,380 are often long gone by the time we have a project that comes through and puts these in. 2500 05:50:43,640 --> 05:50:45,740 We've had this conversation internally with staff. 2501 05:50:46,040 --> 05:50:52,720 I think there is kind of a spectrum everywhere between the counties entirely, the counties 2502 05:50:52,720 --> 05:50:56,540 responsibility and in some cases and some of our districts where we don't have dedicated 2503 05:50:56,540 --> 05:51:01,480 right lawyer sidewalks. We have projects right now that we're advancing as an agency to try to implement 2504 05:51:01,480 --> 05:51:07,240 that infrastructure. It's very challenging. At the same time, if we don't have thoughtful 2505 05:51:07,240 --> 05:51:12,680 development, as County Executive Johnson mentioned, with a community facilities district, 2506 05:51:13,240 --> 05:51:18,320 established or some other mechanism established where there is funding that's reserved. There's 2507 05:51:18,320 --> 05:51:25,940 very clear expectations that someday this will be developed and there is a border, some governance 2508 05:51:25,940 --> 05:51:31,100 structure to make sure that that happens when it's time, otherwise these things fall back 2509 05:51:31,100 --> 05:51:35,620 onto an HOA that may not have the capacity to be equipped to try to do a sidewalk widening 2510 05:51:35,620 --> 05:51:41,620 project in the future. So we'll go back and have a discussion about how we might be able 2511 05:51:41,620 --> 05:51:48,840 to address some of those concerns with requirements that tie back maybe to maintenance agreements 2512 05:51:48,840 --> 05:51:55,600 or CCNRs or conditions of community facilities districts to try to make sure that that happens. 2513 05:52:01,030 --> 05:52:27,970 And last, common I wanted to address Supervisor Donnie, I appreciate your note about making it really clear when county roads are private or not county maintained our team struggles with that every time we get a call as well, we often have to go look to see is this one of ours or is it not when we visited San Luis Obispo last Monday, as we were driving around I was with my colleagues and 2514 05:52:27,970 --> 05:52:39,100 We were making note of the fact that the colors of the private streets in the unincorporated county were inverted and so it was a white background with brown nuttering and 2515 05:52:39,650 --> 05:52:50,010 All of the public streets were the opposite way around and I think that's a really good clear standard in a way that we could start to implement to just make it clear as folks move on to a new street 2516 05:52:50,010 --> 05:52:54,590 that maybe this is a question they need to ask it would certainly help our crews that get 2517 05:52:54,590 --> 05:52:59,390 callouts to go take care of maintenance. So appreciate always good to get out of dodge and take a 2518 05:52:59,390 --> 05:53:04,130 look to see what others are doing and bring back good ideas. Those were the notes that I had, 2519 05:53:04,390 --> 05:53:08,750 I wanted to make sure is there anything else before we close out today that you have an opportunity 2520 05:53:08,750 --> 05:53:14,590 to provide that input to us? Just as far as the stakeholders engaging with, I do think more 2521 05:53:14,590 --> 05:53:21,170 transit is a good one earlier just to really on the bench on the transit stops but also the 2522 05:53:21,170 --> 05:53:28,150 circulation issues. Have we run this through our county bee packet all or talk to them? 2523 05:53:28,370 --> 05:53:34,770 Throw that out there as an idea. I appreciate the the bicycle coalition I think sometimes 2524 05:53:34,770 --> 05:53:43,630 citizen groups have a slightly different bent on that as well. And then have these have we talked 2525 05:53:43,630 --> 05:53:52,160 the development, the developer community about, you know, are there things here that are going to, 2526 05:53:52,160 --> 05:54:00,160 you know, Bob, you're shaking your head. Yes, indeed some of the proposed changes that we made 2527 05:54:00,160 --> 05:54:06,380 early on were based upon developer input. And so we built in much more flexibility. The idea of 2528 05:54:06,380 --> 05:54:11,980 Connector Rose came from developers narrowing some of the sidewalk requirements for the Main Street. 2529 05:54:11,980 --> 05:54:14,320 Those were all suggestions that they made. 2530 05:54:15,220 --> 05:54:22,880 I really appreciate that this went through the planning commission and that you're suggesting that it go back potentially again for them to review it. 2531 05:54:23,060 --> 05:54:24,540 So thank you very much. 2532 05:54:25,400 --> 05:54:27,480 Chris, would you mind just setting some expectations? 2533 05:54:27,820 --> 05:54:29,620 My hope is to bring this back soon. 2534 05:54:30,160 --> 05:54:30,920 I want to bring this. 2535 05:54:31,240 --> 05:54:34,980 So before I want to just balance out the process, you know, 2536 05:54:35,940 --> 05:54:41,640 desires of the board today with, and then the reality that we want to get something adopted. 2537 05:54:42,660 --> 05:54:47,480 So, I mean, one was our original plan and basically what you're hearing today is that changed anything. 2538 05:54:47,800 --> 05:54:58,320 So, in the presentation, our next steps, we were targeting October 13th to come back for the introduction of the first reading of the ordinance to move this forward. 2539 05:54:59,060 --> 05:54:59,980 I get the sense for 2540 05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:12,920 First to go out and do some additional outreach. It would be helpful for us to have probably a few more weeks, so we had looked at in November 2nd for the planned adoption of the ordinance, and maybe what we'll do. 2541 05:55:13,240 --> 05:55:24,660 And I don't want to fully commit the team without talking to them and understanding that the folks working on this have other commitments, and I don't have a complete understanding of the amount of time that would go into this. 2542 05:55:24,660 --> 05:55:27,360 But I think we could look at bringing this back 2543 05:55:27,360 --> 05:55:30,940 to the meetings in November, give us a little bit more time 2544 05:55:30,940 --> 05:55:32,300 to incorporate this potentially 2545 05:55:32,300 --> 05:55:33,680 get back to the planning commission 2546 05:55:33,680 --> 05:55:34,960 and then come back for adoption. 2547 05:55:36,360 --> 05:55:39,080 I guess I'll just chime in that the other stakeholders, 2548 05:55:39,300 --> 05:55:42,660 I think there's an opportunity when we bring it back 2549 05:55:42,660 --> 05:55:45,900 to ensure that there are aware of and can make comment 2550 05:55:45,900 --> 05:55:47,100 at that time. 2551 05:55:47,260 --> 05:55:49,760 I'm not saying to sort of revise the whole thing, 2552 05:55:49,920 --> 05:55:53,860 but that may be an opportunity to get the feedback 2553 05:55:53,860 --> 05:55:56,160 without slowing it out too much. 2554 05:55:57,520 --> 05:55:59,080 And Chris correct me if I'm wrong. 2555 05:55:59,380 --> 05:56:02,380 We're having this conversation live in front of you. 2556 05:56:02,440 --> 05:56:05,040 Is that it's essentially, 2557 05:56:05,260 --> 05:56:07,840 these are not baked in, you know, sense stone. 2558 05:56:08,520 --> 05:56:10,060 So ultimately, if we adopt something, 2559 05:56:10,060 --> 05:56:12,100 it doesn't work for one of our service providers. 2560 05:56:12,600 --> 05:56:14,000 It's a first and second reading. 2561 05:56:14,760 --> 05:56:17,100 So, you know, I just want to impress upon the board 2562 05:56:17,100 --> 05:56:20,020 at least from my sense of urgency to get something in the books. 2563 05:56:20,340 --> 05:56:23,180 So we have something, so when applications walk in the door, 2564 05:56:23,180 --> 05:56:36,780 And then from there, if we encounter which we will encounter some constructability or other applicability issues that, you know, we're not just too far away from putting an ordinance before the board to make modifications. 2565 05:56:36,780 --> 05:56:43,040 And I just say that just as we, and with the your comments, supervisors, or 2566 05:56:43,040 --> 05:56:46,640 sack it that if we break this forward, if there's substantive input at the meeting 2567 05:56:46,640 --> 05:56:51,940 from the special districts, it's hard to do ordinance changes on the fly and design changes 2568 05:56:51,940 --> 05:56:52,660 on the fly. 2569 05:56:53,040 --> 05:56:55,940 So we'll try to balance that out with the time and then we'll return. 2570 05:56:56,920 --> 05:57:03,460 And we can expect to that when we get to phase three and we're talking about fitting these 2571 05:57:03,460 --> 05:57:12,900 their pieces in likely there will be some there will need to be some reconsideration, you know, 2572 05:57:13,040 --> 05:57:20,700 not of the basic concepts or goals but of exactly how it works in terms of the street profiles 2573 05:57:20,700 --> 05:57:28,580 as you start really getting down to the nitty gritty of how big your pipes have to be and things like 2574 05:57:28,580 --> 05:57:32,080 because it all has to fit and 2575 05:57:35,410 --> 05:57:37,330 so that leaves us where. 2576 05:57:38,330 --> 05:57:44,930 I think director Blunk and director Jones have kind of summarized kind of the next steps. 2577 05:57:45,110 --> 05:57:46,910 We've got copious notes from today. 2578 05:57:47,590 --> 05:57:53,110 We'll go back, we'll work with President Luchin and Vice President Mompeaters 2579 05:57:53,110 --> 05:57:57,350 on the timing of returning this and we'll keep the board informed. 2580 05:57:57,350 --> 05:58:02,650 particularly as we reach out to other stakeholders, but we think we've got enough today to kind of make some 2581 05:58:02,650 --> 05:58:08,250 refinements and appreciate the feedback today. Great, okay, thank you everyone. Good, good report. 2582 05:58:08,570 --> 05:58:09,130 First of all, 2583 05:58:15,290 --> 05:58:21,990 okay, at this time we are going to adjourn as the Board of Supervisors and Reconvene.