1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,160
The county of Monterey, let the record show that supervisor Daniels Church and ask you our present with Lopez and Lejo to be arriving shortly.

2
00:00:13,420 --> 00:00:18,220
Do we have any additions or corrections to our closed session this morning? No additions or corrections.

3
00:00:18,940 --> 00:00:24,840
All right, we have closed session items number 1, A through C, is there any public comment on our closed session this morning?

4
00:00:29,690 --> 00:00:33,850
We'll close public comment on our closed session items.

5
00:00:34,430 --> 00:00:37,290
We'll recess into close session.

6
00:00:37,410 --> 00:00:40,170
We'll be back here at 10 30 AM for the remainder of the meeting.

7
00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:41,410
Thank you.

8
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:55,140
for Tuesday, March 17th, 2026, let the record show that all supervisors are present.

9
00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:02,020
We'll go ahead and start and ask for an announcement of our Spanish interpreter by Diego Celes,

10
00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,180
who's with us remotely.

11
00:01:07,690 --> 00:01:10,630
Well, good morning. My name is Diego Celes, and I'm an interpreter

12
00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:15,350
in Spanish for the reunion of today. If you're planning to do a public comment,

13
00:01:15,810 --> 00:01:19,170
and they need to serve the interprete for favor,

14
00:01:19,390 --> 00:01:21,410
ablar, lenta, and sufficientemente fuerte

15
00:01:21,410 --> 00:01:24,530
para que yo les cuche, favora ser una pausa

16
00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:27,250
al final de cabración para asegurarse

17
00:01:27,250 --> 00:01:29,770
de que tengo la oportunidad de interpretarle.

18
00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:30,510
Muchas gracias.

19
00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:33,750
Great, thank you.

20
00:01:35,430 --> 00:01:36,990
And then next up we have our pledge of allegiance.

21
00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:38,270
And I'm going to ask also him and his

22
00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:40,230
from the back of the room, our director of

23
00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:41,630
Monarch County Health Department to lead us

24
00:01:41,630 --> 00:01:42,830
in the pledge of allegiance today.

25
00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:43,470
Thanks.

26
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:55,060
The lady tends to the fire at the United States of America, and to the Republic, or from

27
00:01:55,060 --> 00:02:01,080
which it stands, one nation under the law of indivisible with liberty and justice to

28
00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:01,380
the law.

29
00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:04,690
Thank you, Alfa.

30
00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:06,570
All right.

31
00:02:06,850 --> 00:02:09,290
Are there any additions or corrections to our agenda this morning?

32
00:02:09,790 --> 00:02:10,470
There are none.

33
00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:11,410
There are none.

34
00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:12,010
All right.

35
00:02:12,370 --> 00:02:14,590
We're going to move right along to our ceremonial resolutions.

36
00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:15,570
We have items.

37
00:02:15,930 --> 00:02:17,190
Number two, three.

38
00:02:17,190 --> 00:02:19,950
We've got a lot today, two through 11.

39
00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:24,110
I'm happy to entertain any public comment on our ceremonial resolutions this morning.

40
00:02:25,210 --> 00:02:30,810
Seeing no one in the audience, I see one hand raised Margot Thomas, and this would be comments

41
00:02:30,810 --> 00:02:32,890
on the ceremonial resolutions.

42
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,060
Do we lose your hand Margot?

43
00:02:45,780 --> 00:02:49,460
We've got you unmuted for a public comment on the ceremonial resolutions.

44
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,780
Margot Thomas,

45
00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,780
all right, we're not hearing any audio here.

46
00:02:57,860 --> 00:02:59,780
Do one more time for a call?

47
00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,520
Okay, yep.

48
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:07,500
We're not hearing any audio.

49
00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:09,820
Okay, we'll have IT double check on our side

50
00:03:09,820 --> 00:03:11,580
to make sure we're good.

51
00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,920
But I don't see neither hands raised, so we will go

52
00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,160
bring it back to the board for motion.

53
00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:22,960
Right, we're motion from Alejo second from Daniels.

54
00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:25,260
This is for items two through 11, all in favor.

55
00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:27,000
Any opposed?

56
00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:28,880
Right, passes unanimously.

57
00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,040
We have a couple presentations this morning.

58
00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,920
I'm starting with Kate Daniels to adopt a resolution pre-climbing March 20, 26, the Civil

59
00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,320
Grand Jury Awareness Month.

60
00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:46,340
Who is here from the Civil Grand Jury?

61
00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,300
Everyone, come on up.

62
00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,480
This is her breakfast.

63
00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,420
Is this on?

64
00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:58,980
Oh, fabulous.

65
00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,080
Wow.

66
00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:05,820
Look at all our civic volunteers doing such important work.

67
00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:06,800
Thank you all so much.

68
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,880
Come on up and join me on both sides.

69
00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,120
It's great to have you here this morning.

70
00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,620
Thank you so much for your service. This is amazing.

71
00:04:16,780 --> 00:04:19,280
No wait for you all to come on up.

72
00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,140
And let's see. We do have a resolution here,

73
00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:30,360
which is civil grand jury awareness month.

74
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,780
And would you mind holding this?

75
00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,440
As we present this to all of you.

76
00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:40,340
Today, we recognize civil grand jury awareness month

77
00:04:40,340 --> 00:04:43,580
and take this moment to acknowledge the important work

78
00:04:43,580 --> 00:04:46,700
of the Monterey County Civil Grand Jury.

79
00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,120
The Civil Grand Jury plays a unique and vital role

80
00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,260
in local government.

81
00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,260
Each year, a group of volunteer residents

82
00:04:54,260 --> 00:04:56,600
from across the county dedicate

83
00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,920
significant time and effort to serve as an...

84
00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:15,620
Independent Watchdog Over Local Government. Their responsibility is to examine how public agencies operate, review, how tax payer dollars are spent, and help ensure that government is functioning effectively and transparently.

85
00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:29,620
These jurors, who you see up here, committed many hours each week to an entire year, conducting interviews, reviewing documents, visiting facilities, and ultimately producing detailed reports.

86
00:05:29,620 --> 00:05:33,380
that offer findings and recommendations for improvement.

87
00:05:34,220 --> 00:05:39,720
Over the years, the Monterey County Civil Grand jury has examined a wide range of issues

88
00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,160
affecting our community.

89
00:05:41,860 --> 00:05:48,100
These reports have reviewed topics such as road conditions, the safety of the warps in Monterey,

90
00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:53,720
cannabis tax revenue, the fentanyl crisis in our youth, noise at the Monterey airport,

91
00:05:54,260 --> 00:05:56,600
public bus transit systems, and more.

92
00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:02,920
Their work often highlights opportunities to improve efficiency, accountability, and coordination

93
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,540
across public agencies.

94
00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:09,860
What makes this process especially valuable is that these investigations are conducted

95
00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:15,240
by community members who are serving solely in the public interest.

96
00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,240
Their findings help inform elected, improve government operations, and increase transparency

97
00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,800
for the residents we serve.

98
00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:29,460
Each year, the civil grand jury releases its final report summarizing its investigations and recommendations.

99
00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:39,160
These reports are typically issued in June and agencies that are the subject of the findings are required to formally respond to those recommendations.

100
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:48,820
I want to take a moment to thank the members of current and past civil grandjuries for their dedication to our important civic responsibility.

101
00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:56,580
serving on the civil grand jury requires a tremendous amount of commitment, time, energy, thoughtful

102
00:06:56,580 --> 00:07:01,220
analysis, and our county benefits greatly from all your work.

103
00:07:01,660 --> 00:07:05,500
We look forward to reviewing this year's reports when they're released in June, and we

104
00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:10,660
appreciate the ongoing effort these volunteers make to strengthen transparency, accountability,

105
00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,500
and good governance throughout Monterey County.

106
00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,400
Thank you all so much for your service to our community.

107
00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:22,300
And I believe you have some words to share with us as well.

108
00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,420
Thank you.

109
00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,520
Thank you so much, Supervisor Daniels.

110
00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,760
On behalf of the Civil Grangers current and past,

111
00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:34,080
we'd like to thank you so much for this recognition.

112
00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:39,580
The moderate chapter of the California Grangers Association

113
00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:41,860
would also like to thank you.

114
00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:48,120
On behalf of these two groups, we thank you and in turn, we would like to thank the Board

115
00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,000
of Supervisors for your outstanding work in Monterey County.

116
00:07:52,340 --> 00:07:58,900
We are all working together to make Monterey County grow and thrive and be a wonderful community.

117
00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:06,840
We would like to thank, in addition, Judge Hulsie, Sandra Antavaro's County Council Susan

118
00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,060
Blitch, Juan Ramirez, and District Attorney Janine Pachione.

119
00:08:11,060 --> 00:08:18,740
This civil grand jury could not complete our important work without the support of this entire team.

120
00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,960
So thank you so much for this honor.

121
00:08:21,820 --> 00:08:23,000
We appreciate it.

122
00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:29,040
Let's get a photograph if we can of all of you and your resolution.

123
00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,400
All

124
00:09:41,870 --> 00:09:46,890
right. Good morning, everyone. I'm up next. As we all know, Monterey County is a very

125
00:09:46,890 --> 00:09:52,510
culturally and ethnically racially diverse county that we all call home. And it's always

126
00:09:52,510 --> 00:09:56,150
important to take a moment to recognize some of the organizations that have been pioneers

127
00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:59,230
leaders and leaders in celebrating that diversity of our community.

128
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,720
Today, I want to call up Mars, a local mora, the president of the community of Filipino community of the

129
00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,560
Selina Valley and his board members. Let's give them a round of applause, everybody.

130
00:10:12,660 --> 00:10:13,000
Today,

131
00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:16,140
today, we are

132
00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:23,460
recognizing the 90th anniversary of the organization of the Filipino community of the Selina Valley and the

133
00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:27,160
of their 2026 and 207 officers.

134
00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,040
I joined their celebration last month.

135
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,020
A very good event at the community of Filipino community hall.

136
00:10:34,420 --> 00:10:36,860
But today we also wanted to take time to recognize them here

137
00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:39,520
in front of our community and in front of the full board of supervisors

138
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,340
and present them this resolution.

139
00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:43,580
The resolution reads in part,

140
00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:47,300
the Filipino community of Selena's Valley was established in 1936.

141
00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:48,900
Just think about that.

142
00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:50,580
That was during the Dust Bowl era, right?

143
00:10:50,580 --> 00:10:55,820
challenging times in the nation over the period in our nation's history, during an era of

144
00:10:55,820 --> 00:11:01,460
significant hardship and discrimination, serving as a vital sanctuary and unified voice for Filipino

145
00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:05,640
migrant workers who are the backbone of the Selena's Valley's agricultural industry.

146
00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,660
And for nine decades, the Filipino community, Selena's Valley, has remained a steadfast

147
00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:17,260
beacon of cultural heritage, resilience and civic engagement, providing a home away from home

148
00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:22,780
for generations of Filipino Americans through its historic Filipino community hall at 250

149
00:11:22,780 --> 00:11:28,640
Gaia Sabu in Salinas. The Filipino pioneers of this valley, including the legendary

150
00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,200
monongs, a plated transformative role in the American labor movement, notably through the Filipino

151
00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,860
labor union at historic 1934. Let us try here in the Salinas Valley, peaving the wave for

152
00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:44,840
fair labor practices and civil rights for all farm workers across the nation. The Salinas Valley

153
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,260
of penal community, demonstrated profound patriotism and courage, particularly during the 1942

154
00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:55,400
activation of the first Filipino Infantry Regiment at the Selena's World Dealgrounds,

155
00:11:55,420 --> 00:11:59,460
where thousands of residents enter the call to serve our nation during World War II.

156
00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,560
So, today the 90th anniversary and installation of officers marks a new chapter of leadership

157
00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:10,400
and is showing that the legacy of advocacy, education, and community service established

158
00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,120
In 1936, continue to thrive for future generations.

159
00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:18,140
So therefore on behalf of the Monterey County Board of Supervisors and all the residents,

160
00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:23,040
we hereby recognize and congratulate the Philippine community of the Selenus Valley on the

161
00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:29,200
occasion of its 90th anniversary and the 2026-27 installation officers and honors the organizations

162
00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:35,080
for its longstanding and invaluable contributions to the cultural richness, economic vitality

163
00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,800
and social fabric of the city of Selenus and the county of Monterey.

164
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,080
With that, we want to pass the microphone to President Martin Rokomora to hear some more words.

165
00:12:45,940 --> 00:12:46,920
Thank you, Supervisor Lejo.

166
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,800
First of all, I want to thank the Monterey County Board of Supervisors and

167
00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,320
Supervisor Lejo and Supervisor Lopez coming.

168
00:12:56,460 --> 00:13:01,120
And even Supervisor asks you, you guys all come to the Filipino community.

169
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,080
It means a very much a lot to us.

170
00:13:04,460 --> 00:13:08,780
As for me, I am one of the younger generations and I grew up at the

171
00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:15,400
Filipino community, not knowing that ever become the president of the Filipino community and for

172
00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:23,140
our community to let me carry on the torch that started back in 1936 is a great honor. I want to

173
00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:30,180
really give a shout out to Susan Remus. She is the president of our Filipino community.

174
00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:38,760
I mean,

175
00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,260
I'll have California almost.

176
00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,760
So, 95 years.

177
00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,260
95 years.

178
00:13:44,260 --> 00:13:45,620
They're celebrating 95 years.

179
00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:49,200
So, there were before, yes, and there were before the Filipino community.

180
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,220
And she is a current president, and she's also on my board.

181
00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:57,920
So, I really, you know, there's several presidents that are on my board.

182
00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,080
From different organizations like the Slinus-Sobus-Sister City.

183
00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,040
We have Halle Martinez.

184
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,000
And, uh, representative of Monterey County Filipino Community.

185
00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,380
We have jet, okay, and I'm also a board member over there.

186
00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:15,880
She, her husband was a president of the Filipino Community of Monterey, okay.

187
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,580
And we have also the Filipino American Nurses Association, Letti Crimes.

188
00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:26,260
So our organization is together with a lot of organizations,

189
00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,920
so I'm also on one more shout out to everybody on the board of the Asian Cultural

190
00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:41,980
experience as you know we have our annual Asian fair and I know Supervisor Alejo comes

191
00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:46,500
and use these speaks so I believe we're celebrating our 18th year so if anybody can

192
00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:53,720
make it please come it's the last Saturday every year of April so it's from 11 to 4 but thank

193
00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,620
you everyone and we're very honored to get this resolution. Thank you. Thank you very much and on behalf

194
00:14:59,620 --> 00:14:59,960
the board.

195
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:12,740
Supervisors, we want to thank you for all your leadership, all the different organizations. We are so proud of you and thank you for making Monterey County richer and stronger for all the good work you do. So with that, I want to present this proclamation on behalf of the Board of Supervisors.

196
00:15:13,220 --> 00:15:14,500
There you go. Thank you very much.

197
00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:43,510
All right, thank you very much.

198
00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:44,710
Thank you.

199
00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:06,030
All right, congratulations again to all of our new,

200
00:16:07,290 --> 00:16:12,130
and in newly installed officers, thanks for being with us today.

201
00:16:12,630 --> 00:16:26,310
All right, I have the honor today of presenting a resolution to the American Association of University Women,

202
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:32,030
And I'm going to, for a Monterey County, I should clarify, and I have with me today Sharon

203
00:16:32,030 --> 00:16:37,470
Sebert, the AAUW Monterey County Public Policy Director, it's my pleasure to recognize

204
00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:42,830
the American Association of University Women Monterey County Branch for its critical work

205
00:16:42,830 --> 00:16:49,070
advancing pay equity and expanding opportunities for women and girls in our community.

206
00:16:49,070 --> 00:16:58,470
For more than a century, A.A.U.W. has worked nationally to promote gender equality through research, education, and advocacy.

207
00:16:59,370 --> 00:17:04,790
Our local Monterey County branch has been a part of that legacy since its founding 98 years ago.

208
00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:13,850
The branch has awarded more than 210 scholarships to women pursuing higher education, many of whom are the first in their families to attend college.

209
00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:18,850
This year alone they awarded 12 scholarships of $2,500 each.

210
00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:27,090
A-A-U-W Monterey County encourages a rising generation of young women to pursue careers in high demand fields like science and technology.

211
00:17:27,950 --> 00:17:34,830
Their tech-truck program sends local eighth grade girls to a week-long STEM camp where they explore robotics, environmental sciences, and engineering.

212
00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:41,930
And the organization also supports civic engagement, voter registration, and advocates for policies that

213
00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:44,150
advance equity and education in the workforce.

214
00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:46,350
This work is so important.

215
00:17:48,030 --> 00:17:52,950
I often think about my own grandmother who worked as a clerk secretary for the County of

216
00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:57,010
Contra Costa and think about how proud she would be of what I've been able to accomplish.

217
00:17:57,710 --> 00:18:00,890
It's very different from what she had opportunities for.

218
00:18:01,150 --> 00:18:03,510
So thank you for the work that allowed me to have those opportunities.

219
00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:09,190
On behalf of the Monterey County Board of Supervisors and all of our residents, we thank the AAUW

220
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:15,030
and Monterey County Branch for decades of leadership, of generosity, and a dedication to empowering

221
00:18:15,030 --> 00:18:17,750
and uplifting women and girls in our community.

222
00:18:18,550 --> 00:18:24,170
And thank you to Sharon Seabart, our AAUW Monterey County Public Policy Director, who is here

223
00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:25,190
to accept the recognition.

224
00:18:25,670 --> 00:18:27,570
And I think you have a couple of comments as well.

225
00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:28,270
Yeah.

226
00:18:28,330 --> 00:18:29,230
Hold it for you.

227
00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:30,070
Thank you so much.

228
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:46,250
So our organization started in Monterey County in 1927, but AAUW nationally started in 1881, so we're over 140 years old, working on equity for girls and women.

229
00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:53,870
Sadly, in the last two years, women have backslid in terms of their equality in earnings.

230
00:18:53,870 --> 00:19:01,950
The reason we're here today is on March 26th, we are celebrating Equal Pay Day.

231
00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:10,850
That means that Caucasian men worked all of 2025, Caucasian women had to work until March

232
00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:16,870
26th to earn the same amount that the men earned in 2025.

233
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:23,770
That's even worse for Latino, Native Americans and other ethnic minorities, some of which

234
00:19:23,770 --> 00:19:30,490
have to work until November of this year to earn what others had earned in just 2025.

235
00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:32,290
So I'm honored.

236
00:19:32,530 --> 00:19:38,350
Thank you so much for you honoring us, the Board of Supervisors and Supervisor ASCUE.

237
00:19:39,690 --> 00:19:45,830
And frankly, we have just given cookies to supervisors, ASCUE, and Daniels that are

238
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:51,690
only three quarters of a cookie because there's a quarter missing for what they wouldn't

239
00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:52,350
have earned.

240
00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:59,970
The others three supervisors have full cookies because they're all men, so we hope with

241
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:09,940
With our work that we will continue to espouse advocacy for women in pay equity, throughout

242
00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:20,000
AAUW Monterey County, AAUW California of which I am the co-president, E-Lact, and all of AAUW

243
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,060
throughout the country, we are a national organization.

244
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:24,840
Thank you.

245
00:20:32,590 --> 00:20:34,350
So I'm glad you're here, but please join.

246
00:20:35,290 --> 00:20:36,070
Did you know the word?

247
00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:40,650
She's a president.

248
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:54,560
Thank you so much.

249
00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:55,020
Thank you.

250
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,520
All

251
00:21:14,350 --> 00:21:16,730
right, we have one more resolution this morning

252
00:21:16,730 --> 00:21:18,390
before we get on to our business,

253
00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:19,930
the rest of the business of the day.

254
00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:23,030
And I have, as Nadia here, from the Civil Rights Office,

255
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:25,090
I don't see Nadia.

256
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:26,830
Okay, well, I have,

257
00:21:28,110 --> 00:21:34,150
I have a resolution honoring a neurodiversity celebration we care in Monterey County.

258
00:21:34,550 --> 00:21:35,970
Let's make a few comments about it.

259
00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:39,270
I think it is important that we, are you here to represent?

260
00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:41,310
Oh, come on up, okay, perfect.

261
00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:42,790
I was like, I,

262
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,040
and this is our ERG group that's with us here from the county.

263
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,380
Thank you so much.

264
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,260
Well, then I'm going to pass this to you.

265
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:51,640
Okay.

266
00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:53,060
Thank you.

267
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,080
There's the whole team.

268
00:21:56,540 --> 00:21:59,640
So I'm honored to thank you for jumping up.

269
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,520
I'm honored to present this resolution today,

270
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,060
recognizing the third week of March

271
00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:04,500
is neurodiversity celebration

272
00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:05,900
we care in Monterey County.

273
00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:08,500
Neurological conditions like autism,

274
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,780
ADHD, dyslexia, and other cognitive differences

275
00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:15,420
are all part of the spectrum of human diversity.

276
00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:17,720
When we recognize and support,

277
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,260
these differences, we strengthen our workplaces,

278
00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:21,960
our schools, and our communities.

279
00:22:23,020 --> 00:22:24,880
The county has created a neurodiversity

280
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,220
in the workplace employee resource group and provides training across the county to help other

281
00:22:30,220 --> 00:22:35,780
employees better understand and support the spectrum of differences that we all bring into our work.

282
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,960
Monarch County Behavioral Health and its community partners, residents of all ages,

283
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,680
from childrens and seniors, can access prevention, mental health and other services throughout the

284
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,200
county. Our work is strengthened by the efforts of many community partners,

285
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,220
including Special Kids Connect, Monterey County,

286
00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,520
South Bad, Central Coast Regional Center,

287
00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:58,240
Artabilities, and many others who are working

288
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,440
to ensure that our neurodivergent, family members and friends

289
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,240
and neighbors, and all of their families

290
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,640
have the support that they need so that we can all succeed

291
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,980
and bring value to the work that we do.

292
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:11,680
I want to thank Nadia Valarde from the County Civil Rights

293
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,360
Office and our ERG team who's here with us today

294
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,980
for the work that your office says to help advocate

295
00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:22,680
in ensure that county policies are inclusive of everyone that the county serves.

296
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,200
On behalf of the Board of Supervisors and the residents of Monterey County, we're proud

297
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,080
to recognize neurodiversity celebration week and affirm our commitment to building a community

298
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:37,080
where every individual is valued for the gifts, the talents, the unique differences that we all

299
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,340
bring into our work and our community.

300
00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:45,900
And I think given some of the national news that was just pushed out this last week,

301
00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:50,300
I think it's even more important than ever that we make it clear that we all have strengths

302
00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:56,340
that we bring and that it's important that we recognize and value and claim those strengths

303
00:23:56,340 --> 00:24:01,420
in our work and in our families and in our community. So thank you so much especially for being here

304
00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:06,500
this week. It means a lot to me and my family and my neighbors and the community that I represent.

305
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:10,340
So I'm going to pass it over for a few comments, but thank you again for being here.

306
00:24:10,580 --> 00:24:15,100
Thank you Supervisor Eski. Good morning, Chair and members of the board.

307
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:24,040
I am here on behalf of the Neurodiversity and the Workplace Employee Resource Group.

308
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,000
Thank you to the Board of Supervisors for your leadership and for adopting this resolution.

309
00:24:29,740 --> 00:24:35,840
Your support helps advance understanding, inclusion, and practices that ensure Neurodiversity

310
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,600
and individuals feel valued and supported in our workplace and throughout our community.

311
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:49,840
Your divergent, divergent reflects the natural diversity of how people think, learn, and experience the world.

312
00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:54,220
Your diversity week is an opportunity to celebrate this differences.

313
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,720
Foster acceptance and promote greater understandings of inclusion.

314
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,780
And...

315
00:24:59,780 --> 00:24:59,940
For...

316
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:21,640
Of neurodivergent individuals in our schools, workplaces, and communities. The neurodivercity in the workplace employee resource group is committed to help build a equitable, sorry, systems prioritized safety, dignity, inclusive workplaces for all employees and residents.

317
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:29,880
Naturally, this year's theme is from awareness to action, making organizational changes happen.

318
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:36,380
Neuro-diversity campaign encourages workplaces to focus on neuro-inclusion as strength,

319
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:43,320
particularly looking at how different cognitive profiles are toism, ADHD, dyslexia,

320
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,800
contribute to success. Public institutions like the county play an important role in setting

321
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:56,540
the standard for inclusion and creating workplaces where everyone has the opportunity to succeed.

322
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:04,460
Our ERG works to promote understanding of neurodiversity, reduces stigma, and supports workplace

323
00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:13,220
cultures where neurodivergent individuals are recognized and empowered by research shows that

324
00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:20,800
organizations that foster in your inclusion, workplace experience, higher employee retention,

325
00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:25,740
stronger engagement, and increases productivity and more collaborative teams.

326
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:32,680
You know, divergent individuals also bring unique strings such as high level analytical skills,

327
00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:35,440
attention to details, creativity, and innovation.

328
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:41,560
We look forward to contributing our work to advance inclusive practices that support

329
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:48,560
You know divergent employees and benefit the entire workplace, we encourage all residents and

330
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:56,240
employees to help build a community rooted in understanding, compassion, equity for everyone.

331
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,140
The ERG will have an informational table outside.

332
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,840
The board chamber until 1 o'clock for anyone interested in learning more.

333
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:05,800
Thank you everyone.

334
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,340
Thank you so much.

335
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,480
I was so good.

336
00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:48,810
Thank you all for being here.

337
00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:52,110
That was really nice to start the day with some celebrations.

338
00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:56,270
Next step, we have item number 12 and 13,

339
00:27:56,610 --> 00:27:57,630
which are appointments.

340
00:27:59,630 --> 00:28:01,970
Is there any public comment on our appointments?

341
00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:07,040
Seeing them, we'll bring it back to the board.

342
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,460
We have a motion from LA, I was second,

343
00:28:09,460 --> 00:28:13,340
was that second, Kate, a second from Daniels.

344
00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:16,860
And I just had one correction on the appointments.

345
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,860
The number 12, my understanding of the governance for Senator Water District is that this

346
00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:29,800
would be a Board of Supervisors appointment, not a district appointment based on the

347
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,120
governance.

348
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,580
So if we could just have that corrected for the agenda, that would be helpful.

349
00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:37,200
And for future items that come forward, I think the one last week was also listed as a district

350
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,220
specific appointment.

351
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,200
So if we could just watch for correcting those.

352
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,680
But with that, all in favor of the appointment?

353
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,680
I, any opposition?

354
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:46,800
Nope.

355
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:47,200
All right.

356
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,260
Approved unanimously.

357
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120
We're moving on to our consent calendar today.

358
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,600
Is there any public comment on the consent agenda this morning?

359
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,680
I'm seeing no hands raised on line.

360
00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:03,380
I know I'm approaching the dius here.

361
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,860
We'll bring it back to the board.

362
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Happy to entertain a motion or comments.

363
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:10,520
Anyone go consent?

364
00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:11,340
All right.

365
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:13,960
We have a motion from church, a second from Lopas,

366
00:29:15,140 --> 00:29:16,100
any comments, anyone else?

367
00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:18,500
No, all in favor of the consent agenda this morning.

368
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,420
I, any opposed?

369
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,180
None.

370
00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:24,900
All right, then we're moving right on to general public comments.

371
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,320
This is for that opportunity for individuals

372
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160
to comment on matters that are not on today's agenda,

373
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,280
but are within the jurisdiction of this Board of Supervisors.

374
00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:39,280
And we will open it for public comment.

375
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:52,940
I'm going to start with the thing of the arch that we were talking about a few weeks ago.

376
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:59,920
I don't understand how we're going to try to build something.

377
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:09,880
In an area that is so overrun, the infrastructure is just horrible, the streets, the sidewalks,

378
00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:13,730
the lights, the work and night.

379
00:30:14,110 --> 00:30:23,590
There's no striping on the road. I mean, I don't get it. I don't understand how we can even bring, how you even vote on something like that, guys.

380
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:28,810
Spend money on something. I mean you guys don't even live there. Only think he is your drive through there.

381
00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:33,790
You need to take a drive through there. Pick up Mr. Barretta. He's district two super.

382
00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:43,850
I'm, he's the, I guess the city representative there. Pick him up or you can pick you guys up. Take a drive down the east side.

383
00:30:44,330 --> 00:30:51,590
Come to get really east the leanest. So you can see what it really looks like. Honestly, I'll think you guys even know anybody down there.

384
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:58,250
Seriously, and then no, Mr. Alejo. I mean, your county roads are horrible. You haven't fixed that either.

385
00:30:59,750 --> 00:31:06,050
Go down old stage. Go down all those roads back there. He's pronged and everything that they're ugly.

386
00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:16,210
But we spend money on things we don't even need. Come on, guys. Dear job. Please, dear job.

387
00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:20,150
Take a drive down there, coming to meet some of the people.

388
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:23,990
I'll tell you what, I'm going to have a multi-way on media next, but I'm going to invite all you guys.

389
00:31:24,390 --> 00:31:27,870
You can see how our meetings really run when you can actually engage with the public

390
00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:32,230
and they can actually ask you questions and you can honestly answer them.

391
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:37,970
Give me a favor, man. When someone calls you pick up the phone, when someone asks you or

392
00:31:38,450 --> 00:31:42,150
sends you an email answer it, please, you get paid to do that.

393
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:45,650
Do your job, guys. I bless you guys have a good day.

394
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:16,340
So, good morning, I'm Eloise Jim, and I have to echo what Mr. Garara said about having really priorities such as the arch when there are people who are homeless in silliness.

395
00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:28,420
And specifically in November, I came here to talk about one person named Mike, who's been living in the Victory Mission for 22 years.

396
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:44,220
He's a senior, he's a very mild-mannered citizen who's parents served in the Air Force, and he languishes his days at the Steinbeck Library and the El Gabelon Library.

397
00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:58,280
And Roxanne came down when I mentioned it to Supervisor Olejo, she took the information and I just saw her outside, she did not contact him.

398
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:08,700
I talked to him on Saturday. He hasn't received any kind of communication from any of you.

399
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,640
You don't do your job.

400
00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:19,940
You care about things like the arch, which will glorify your position as a supervisor.

401
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:28,900
You don't care about the people and it's really a shame that you pat yourself on the back

402
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:35,700
for being so good and so diligent and earning all your big dollars.

403
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:48,100
You don't earn your big dollars and the example of Mike with Roxanne and Supervisor Lejo, you should have followed up with it.

404
00:33:48,500 --> 00:34:00,320
I said it in November, you should have followed up with Roxanne, you didn't. You're too busy with all your other things that is glorifying you, not about the people.

405
00:34:08,170 --> 00:34:10,050
We'll keep moving through comments here.

406
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:10,290
Thanks.

407
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:14,050
I wasn't.

408
00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:15,290
I thought she was in front of me.

409
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:16,270
But I'm going to go first.

410
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:17,930
Let me put my speech.

411
00:34:18,610 --> 00:34:18,690
Okay.

412
00:34:18,830 --> 00:34:19,570
Good morning supervisors.

413
00:34:20,170 --> 00:34:21,350
My name is Daniel Munoz.

414
00:34:21,650 --> 00:34:25,810
First I wanted to acknowledge that the LA Jorge project that was canceled and I'm glad

415
00:34:25,810 --> 00:34:28,770
that it was the community spoke and it was the right decision.

416
00:34:29,370 --> 00:34:31,390
But let's not try to rewrite history here, Louise.

417
00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:32,210
Okay.

418
00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:35,150
This wasn't just a small loud group of critics.

419
00:34:35,590 --> 00:34:36,270
That's BS.

420
00:34:36,910 --> 00:34:41,450
A large portion of Salinas residents thought that project was stupid and out of touch and the reality

421
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:46,650
is, it shouldn't have for taking a recall effort to get you to cancel the stupid arch.

422
00:34:47,070 --> 00:34:51,570
Elected officials are supposed to listen before it reaches that point, not after.

423
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:56,590
And that's exactly why your recall was and still is necessary, Luis.

424
00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:59,410
Now what happened next is just as concerning.

425
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:11,080
After the arch was dropped, you focused to expanding the soccer fields, backed by a $1.5 million donation from Bruce Taylor, and another $500,000 in federal support.

426
00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:19,420
So here's the question, if those relationships exist, if that money can be brought in, then why not bring it to fix our roads?

427
00:35:19,420 --> 00:35:27,200
You know, the ones your billionaire buddy Bruce destroys for free, why not address the thousands of residents struggling with homelessness in Salinas.

428
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,940
We're talking about millions of dollars being spent on something Salinas doesn't need.

429
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:40,860
And finally, as you prepare to vote on this upcoming county transfer tax loaves, I have a feeling that your donors might want you to vote no.

430
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:44,420
So I'm guessing that you will. Thank you for your time.

431
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:56,810
Good morning, gosh two minutes, boy, I got some complicated points to make here.

432
00:35:56,950 --> 00:36:00,630
Peter Quick, licensed professional geologist, I live near River Road.

433
00:36:01,450 --> 00:36:06,550
A few weeks ago, I learned that illegal trail construction activity within Toro Park had recently

434
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:08,110
been reported to the county.

435
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:13,070
I'm here today to report that I have also recently witnessed new construction of bike trails

436
00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:18,430
and ongoing expansion and alteration of existing trails in multiple locations within Toro

437
00:36:18,430 --> 00:36:18,870
Park.

438
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:24,290
To give just one recent example, on Saturday, February 21st, I encountered four individuals

439
00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:28,990
with tools working on a major new trail that has been carved into the river fire burn

440
00:36:28,990 --> 00:36:29,390
scar.

441
00:36:29,930 --> 00:36:34,690
The trail is being established in one of the most remote and until recently pristine sections

442
00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:38,910
of the Toro backcountry, an area that never contained any trails.

443
00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:45,070
The trail is a mile and a half long, with extraordinarily steep and actively eroding sections.

444
00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:50,850
This trail has been constructed to directly connect to preexisting trails on both ends, effectively

445
00:36:50,850 --> 00:36:53,990
inviting anyone stumbling upon it to try to use it.

446
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:58,590
This follows an established pattern of rogue trail builders treating public land as if

447
00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:03,550
it's their private property, drastically altering Toro Park for their benefit at the expense

448
00:37:03,550 --> 00:37:09,050
of other user groups, creating inexorable facts on the ground, environmental damage, and public

449
00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:11,530
safety hazards that need to be seen to be believed.

450
00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:17,590
In fact, illegal construction of this particular trail actually began back in the spring

451
00:37:17,590 --> 00:37:22,490
of 2021, less than a year after the river firehead completely denuded the area.

452
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:28,910
I first photo-documented the activity, GPS to the trail, confiscated tools, and reported

453
00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:33,150
it to the county in the summer of 2021, and was under the impression that the county was

454
00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:36,550
going to use the information to take action to stop the activity.

455
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:42,350
On the contrary, I have watched the trail gradually become a monstrosity of facts on the ground,

456
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:47,570
as bikers pouring to experience the thrills of what has evidently become known as a

457
00:37:47,570 --> 00:37:52,790
new technical bike trail with mega earthen banks, jumps and braids carved into raw, steeply

458
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:53,670
sloping land.

459
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:58,210
So, do I need to stop here?

460
00:37:59,330 --> 00:38:04,210
I wanted to make the point that I have been threatened and I'm really reluctant to report this

461
00:38:04,210 --> 00:38:09,330
because I've been threatened with bodily harm, harassed, and we would just ask if you have

462
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:12,450
a written statement, if you can share that with the clerk, and we can make sure it gets

463
00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:13,510
distributed to all the supervisors.

464
00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:16,130
Friday, one or two has comments beyond two minutes.

465
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:20,010
We do welcome those being sent to the clerk of the board so that they're distributed to all

466
00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:24,430
and on record at COB at countyofmonare.gov.

467
00:38:24,910 --> 00:38:25,590
Thank you.

468
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:35,360
Good afternoon, Karen Cameron, concerned Selena's resident, where Selena says 40% of the county

469
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,540
population, 50% of the unhoused population.

470
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,120
I was only one of three people present at the environmental justice meeting for the Monterey County

471
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,940
Planning Commission on March 11th, only because I've received an email.

472
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:51,580
It was not posted on the website due to a technical glitch.

473
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Since no one knew about it, they need to be aware that March 11th through May 11th is a public

474
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,400
comment period.

475
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:04,960
Please, I encourage everyone to get educated about the 283 page document, the

476
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:16,120
environmental element justice plan environmental justice element plan there's definitely a lack of local input they gave a survey in the county apparently through the planning commission that's now closed no one

477
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:31,420
I know of got that survey several commissioners also commented they didn't receive it so a question that it seems to be deadline driven by California mandates that I probably don't agree with dollars driven and not community.

478
00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:33,040
Well, it's best interest.

479
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:40,040
When I review the document, I understand that it's based on a 75% or more disadvantage.

480
00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:44,160
Well, that's fine for economics, but that also correlates with the environment.

481
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:49,340
So that means things like poverty, for instance, where they need affordable housing,

482
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,580
but they're facing toxic waste clean up.

483
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,960
They're facing pesticide overdone and flooding in the area and so forth.

484
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,240
So it doesn't make logical planning sense.

485
00:39:59,240 --> 00:39:59,920
Specific

486
00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:13,040
We're in this document list as 100 on the pesticides. So fully accumulated, top soils been added, it's a known

487
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,340
flood zone. Just look at it, even when it's not affecting my neighborhood, I see them canoeing down the streets there.

488
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:28,420
So what are they thinking, putting a project there, except somebody got a deal? Carmel Valley, where 25% of the projects go. There were clear objections to that because of the potential

489
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:33,940
of adding that many people into the area, the wildfire, the flood hazards, how do they get out of

490
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:38,120
those roads? I got a long list of other things that I subjected to you and I encourage the public

491
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,180
to get educated and involved. Thank you.

492
00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:51,860
I don't have much to say. Wendy, I think you're pretty cool.

493
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:59,020
Thank you. You know, you work with what you can, what you got. The system is a navy corrupt,

494
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:05,960
you know, Glenn, nice Christmas trees, big fan. I just wanted to say, at least my first

495
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:11,380
time coming here, when I checked in at the door, they took my water bottle. It's hot today.

496
00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:16,180
We got to sit here, just like you have to sit here. I noticed some of you were drinking,

497
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,220
well, we're all, you know, sweat in a way, sweat in a way, sweat in, you know. So, I don't know.

498
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:25,920
I don't know how many things they say about nothing. I just came to listen and that came into

499
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,000
my mind as I'm thirsty, and I'm probably one of the youngest people here. I could just imagine

500
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,560
how thirsty everyone else is. Just a little bit of a disconnect between the politician and

501
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,940
the community. It's just a simple little. Maybe I think I've read that story in the Bible. I don't

502
00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:48,460
know as a parable or something about water and supervisors or whatever the Pharisees. So anyway,

503
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:54,700
overall I think I have to say this county is not doing a great job. I think the farmers

504
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,900
I've been running right here forever, John Steinbeck,

505
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:01,860
and dubious battle of the same shit still going on today.

506
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,780
Yeah, but anyway, I don't want to get

507
00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:07,800
all political because, you know, if you don't know,

508
00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:09,370
you won't know, but you can look me out.

509
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,440
And I'm not, I'm nobody, but you can, you know,

510
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:13,520
you know what I'm about.

511
00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:20,460
So yeah, just, I'll be around, try harder, you know?

512
00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:24,020
Your tax, paid by your taxes anyway.

513
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:25,080
Thank you, sir.

514
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:29,300
Thank you, sir.

515
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,380
Any other public comment in the chambers today?

516
00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:33,280
All right.

517
00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:33,920
We'll go online.

518
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:34,980
There's a couple of hands raised.

519
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,300
We're going to start with Margot Thomas.

520
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,340
We're going to try again, Margot.

521
00:42:37,540 --> 00:42:39,180
Let's hope we get better audio this time.

522
00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:41,100
Thank you for your patience.

523
00:42:46,090 --> 00:42:46,330
Okay.

524
00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:48,010
We're still not getting audio.

525
00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:51,670
We're going to try something for Margot.

526
00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:54,610
Let's go on to Serma Runway.

527
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Do we have audio for...

528
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,340
Nope, that's muted.

529
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Okay.

530
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,200
We're going to do a little technical work here.

531
00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:25,220
So, as for Melkin, do we have audio for you?

532
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,100
We're going to move some folks over to panelists

533
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:28,140
to try to figure this out.

534
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:33,040
The other can you show the panelist names again?

535
00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:44,070
All right, Margot, we're going to try you again.

536
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,980
OK, we are not getting audio.

537
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,840
We do need to address this.

538
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,280
I know we've got a lot of folks on for public comment

539
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,040
on other items as well.

540
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:03,970
They can hear each other on Zoom.

541
00:44:04,210 --> 00:44:04,490
We just can't.

542
00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:06,030
You guys can hear each other on Zoom.

543
00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:07,630
And we just can't hear you here in the chambers.

544
00:44:10,050 --> 00:44:12,010
Why don't we take a five minute break.

545
00:44:12,110 --> 00:44:14,270
We're going to work on solving this real quick.

546
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:17,630
It is 11, 16.

547
00:44:17,770 --> 00:44:19,430
We're going to reconvene 11, 20.

548
00:44:20,110 --> 00:44:22,950
And get our IT folks to see if we can solve this.

549
00:44:23,110 --> 00:44:23,790
All right, bear with us.

550
00:44:23,930 --> 00:44:25,550
We'll be back in about four and a half minutes.

551
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,940
All right, we're back.

552
00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:37,560
We're going to try this again.

553
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,380
Thank you all for your patience.

554
00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:40,320
We're going to go back to finish our public comment.

555
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:46,960
And Vali, I'll just need to get some help identifying who we have up next.

556
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,940
This is for our public comment, non-agenda items.

557
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,660
Margot Thomas.

558
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:54,720
Hi, good morning.

559
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:55,540
Can you hear me now?

560
00:44:55,580 --> 00:44:56,420
We can hear you.

561
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,280
Thank you so much for coming.

562
00:44:57,340 --> 00:44:58,460
Yay, it's okay.

563
00:44:58,540 --> 00:44:59,440
Thank you.

564
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Thank you.

565
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,500
It should I start? Yes, please. We have two minutes on the clock for you. Thank you. Perfect. Okay. So I want to begin by acknowledging the important work that you are doing on a broader community and social justice issues, because I do think those issues matter deeply.

566
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:25,520
And I'm just here to share a live local perspective. It's also important piece of the larger picture. So again, my name is Margot Thomas. I'm a carmel native.

567
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:32,040
I'm a homeowner in the Carmel Highlands where I've responsibly operated a small vacation rental for about 15 years.

568
00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:40,580
Under the current ordinance, many homeowners in the Highlands and Big Sur are facing the reality of spending literally hundreds of thousands of dollars

569
00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:47,100
to reconfigure our four plans to accommodate home stays and upgrading our septic systems that have never had any issues.

570
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,840
In my case, my system is operated for 15 years without one failure or environmental problem.

571
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:59,220
At the same time, the proposed requirement that hosts live on site raises important questions about environmental logic.

572
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:06,280
Vacation rental guests are typically not full-time occupants throughout hiking, sightseeing, and exploring the coast during the day.

573
00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:13,080
A full-time resident living on site would likely create more consistent daily septic usage than occasional short-term visitors.

574
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:21,480
In other words, the policy intended to reduce environmental impact may actually increase the load on septic systems in the Highlands and Big Sur.

575
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,440
I also wanted to emphasize that many of us who host share the goal of maintaining character

576
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,440
in our neighborhoods.

577
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:31,700
The county already has tools in place to address bad actors through enforcement.

578
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:37,320
Those tools should be used when necessary rather than imposing sweeping restrictions on

579
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,280
responsible operators.

580
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200
We do want to be solutions oriented and work with the county.

581
00:46:42,660 --> 00:46:48,880
One practical path forward is to allow pre-existing operators to continue through a ministerial

582
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,080
process, this would be a clear administrative approval, not discretionary one, reducing time

583
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,400
costs and unnecessary for our uncertainty for both homeowners and county staff. This approaches

584
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,540
a win when it preserves reliable TOT revenue protects responsible operators and reduces administrative

585
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:11,500
burden and stress on the county resources allow and staff. I'm almost out of time. I just want

586
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:17,520
to recommend, yes, please just ran father us in. And can I end with that? I just want to grant

587
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,160
the people who have been operating for 50 years.

588
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,240
Thank you.

589
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:21,760
All right.

590
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:25,500
Next up, we have, um, a Sir Malcolm.

591
00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:27,300
Yes.

592
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Good morning, everybody.

593
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,280
Um, I live in, uh, Cape Gannels,

594
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,680
district and I live a couple of blocks away from the,

595
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,780
fire that happened on Casanova last week.

596
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:41,500
And I just wanted to thank everybody that responded all

597
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:46,720
our first responders that came so quickly and helped out,

598
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:54,140
as well as on Kate's staff and Kate for making this a priority and the

599
00:47:54,140 --> 00:48:02,000
high it that took them in immediately and I mean this is this was a significant event that

600
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:11,080
featured the very reasons why we have to maintain housing to code and I don't think the

601
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:19,060
reason for the fire starting happened, but that unit was county owned or county managed and

602
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:26,360
the people that were living there were all low income seniors, a lot of them had mobility issues,

603
00:48:27,860 --> 00:48:36,100
had site problems, and so the response was great and quick, but I'm hoping that these people

604
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:44,460
don't fall through the cracks and that the event itself is analyzed and taken into consideration

605
00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:50,820
to look at other mutants that are similar to this and make sure that they're safe and

606
00:48:52,540 --> 00:48:56,640
planned for these events. I mean, I think that it would even be smart to do

607
00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:03,860
fire drills. But in general, I just wanted to thank everybody that was involved. I personally

608
00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:10,420
witnessed a lot of it participated a slide amount and the other thing I wanted to mention is

609
00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:16,480
these people had pets and luckily the height let them take their pets with them but we need to

610
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,920
start paying more attention to people who have pets and consider those pets part of their families,

611
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,140
especially when we're talking about seniors. Thank you.

612
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,440
Thank you for your comments and

613
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,700
Next up, we have Tharma Runway.

614
00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:42,390
We've run you on.

615
00:49:42,670 --> 00:49:43,830
Your time's up here.

616
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:44,290
Thanks.

617
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:44,910
Perfect.

618
00:49:45,530 --> 00:49:45,810
Thanks.

619
00:49:47,230 --> 00:49:51,470
So first, I'd like to thank the Board of Supervisors for giving us the opportunity to speak.

620
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:54,170
I know I complain quite a bit.

621
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:56,110
I'm mad, but not mad at you guys.

622
00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:57,870
I actually really appreciate you guys.

623
00:49:59,290 --> 00:49:59,770
So.

624
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,800
What I wanted to bring up was the county's emergency responses, you know, especially to chemical impacts.

625
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:23,900
I've been talking to other chemically impact communities and we've all experienced different disasters, whether it's a refinery fire, a file lab fire, a chain derailment or a battery fire.

626
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:37,840
We've all experienced different disasters, but we all got a similar response, which was a lack of response and denial of contaminants being in the plumes and in the pollutants getting around our communities.

627
00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:48,160
So, you know, it was on a local state and federal level. We were failed. And a lot of these people, you know, their disasters happened a couple years ago.

628
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:54,260
They're dying from cancer, you know, they've lost, that's, they've lost loved ones.

629
00:50:54,760 --> 00:51:01,080
It's been really sad having to talk to these different people just hearing how much they've been failed.

630
00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:03,400
And then they were failed by the legal system.

631
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:13,120
So I guess what I want to say is, I'm hoping that the county could come up with a way where the community could be involved in emergency planning, you know, like,

632
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,280
But if the new warehouse, they're building a giant Amazon warehouse and salinas, what

633
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:23,180
if that caught fire, what's going to be the response, what can we do, and how can we

634
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:28,320
learn from the failure of the battery fire, is there better testing that we could be doing

635
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,380
should we be hiring different people?

636
00:51:31,180 --> 00:51:37,100
There was a trendy realm, less than a mile from my house that's still 200 to 2000 gallons

637
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:37,640
of diesel.

638
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:41,880
I never got notified, even though I'm on the notifications for emergencies.

639
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,420
So, you know, what can we do to respond better?

640
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:48,660
Thank you.

641
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Thank you.

642
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:50,660
All for your comments.

643
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:51,820
I don't see any of our hands raised.

644
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:56,580
We're going to close public comment and move on to item 16, which is our first item

645
00:51:56,580 --> 00:52:00,820
on this morning's agenda to receive a preliminary analysis from response to board referral

646
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,060
2026.010, taking the potential special real estate transfer tax on ultra high value

647
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:10,980
single-family residential property transactions and unincorporated Monterey County.

648
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:13,180
We'll pass the floor to Michael B10.

649
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:20,360
Thank you, Board.

650
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,060
Michael Beaton, Assistant County Administrative Officer.

651
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:36,380
Today we bring to your board a preliminary analysis of board referral number 2026-01,

652
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:40,940
submitted by supervisors, supervisors, Daniels, regarding a special real estate transfer

653
00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:46,700
tax for the benefit of working force housing and the missing middle income earners.

654
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:47,240
We

655
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:56,080
were asking the board to receive a preliminary analysis for a potential special transfer

656
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:01,980
tax on ultra high value property transactions in the unacorporated area and provide direction

657
00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:05,100
on the next steps the board would like us to pursue.

658
00:53:06,140 --> 00:53:13,740
Listed on the slide or a few of the options that the board has at the result of this referral.

659
00:53:16,110 --> 00:53:20,750
This referral request that I can make to explore a special real estate transfer tax on ultra

660
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:27,250
high-value single-family homes sales in excess of $10 million. The funds generated from this

661
00:53:27,250 --> 00:53:33,230
transfer tax would be used to support housing initiatives in the areas of proximity to the

662
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:39,890
sale of support to support workforce housing, missing middle housing, and potentially first-time

663
00:53:39,890 --> 00:53:46,370
home buyers in our community. In addition, through this potential growth in housing, it would help

664
00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:48,950
support the county's regional housing needs,

665
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:51,750
allocation and position the county in a comprehensive

666
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:54,670
advantage for potential future grants.

667
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:59,330
In order to enact this special transfer tax for the

668
00:53:59,330 --> 00:54:02,630
purposes identified in the referral, a ballot measure

669
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:04,510
would be required for the public.

670
00:54:05,550 --> 00:54:09,130
Due to the specific nature of the requested uses of

671
00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:11,670
the funds, a special transfer tax would be required.

672
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:15,730
A special transfer tax requires a two-thirds voter approval,

673
00:54:16,310 --> 00:54:27,630
We must have certain requirements in order to make it a special tax, such as defining a rate threshold and restrict the use of funds for a specific purpose.

674
00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:34,950
We are anticipating that the timeframe in order to do about measure would be about 46 months, preparation time.

675
00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:46,050
This chart does a little bit of a comparison of comparable jurisdictions, all the way from the city of Los Angeles down to the city of Santa Cruz.

676
00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:49,370
some of their rate structures that they do have.

677
00:54:50,610 --> 00:54:51,970
We try to do a little bit of a comparison,

678
00:54:52,270 --> 00:54:53,950
trying to identify those rates

679
00:54:53,950 --> 00:54:55,970
that those jurisdictions have imposed

680
00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:58,370
for values of greater than $10 million

681
00:54:58,370 --> 00:54:59,930
and some of their higher rate.

682
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:11,600
As you can see on the chart here, the rates range anywhere from 2.5%, all will be up to a 5.5% in the city county of San Francisco.

683
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:19,900
With a city of Santa Cruz having a 2% on any value of property sold higher than $4.5 million.

684
00:55:21,260 --> 00:55:31,900
The chart, the farthest column to the right, just identifies what those jurisdictions are utilizing that revenue source for, and as you can see,

685
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:37,140
do identify some for general fund, general programs, but quite a few of those jurisdictions

686
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:42,380
do specifically housing and housing expansion.

687
00:55:46,610 --> 00:55:49,130
So, we try to see what this would look like

688
00:55:49,130 --> 00:55:55,810
for our jurisdiction if the county were to look at the total number of single-family residences

689
00:55:55,810 --> 00:56:02,770
in the unincorporated area of Monterey County that were sold greater than 10 years. So, what this

690
00:56:02,770 --> 00:56:08,190
identifies is for the last three calendar years. What is the total number of transactions that

691
00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:14,510
actually met that criteria? On average, we average about 10 sales a year of those single family

692
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:21,750
dwellings with a value of greater than 10 million. The total sales volume for each individual year

693
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:27,330
going back to three calendar years averages about a hundred and seventy five million dollars in total.

694
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:33,450
So if you look at the historical of the transactions and you work to apply a potential transaction

695
00:56:33,450 --> 00:56:39,390
tax to those properties, we threw together a chart that just on a high level, what would

696
00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:45,330
it look like if we did a 1% transaction tax, all the way down to a 5% transaction tax,

697
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:50,370
based on those average home sales, more of a what if scenario.

698
00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:57,250
So on the scenario that we did here, if the community or the voters approved a transaction

699
00:56:57,250 --> 00:57:05,230
tax of a 1% for anything greater than $10 million, we estimate that it would generate about $1.7 million annually.

700
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:14,710
On the other spectrum, if we did a 5% transaction tax, it would generate approximately $8.7 million annually.

701
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:24,720
So in the referral, it does specifically identify that the request would be for

702
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:30,580
exploring to do a ballot measure that would help with that revenue for the workforce and missing

703
00:57:30,580 --> 00:57:36,980
middle housing investment strategy. Some of the options but not all the options that were

704
00:57:36,980 --> 00:57:41,220
potentially identified that this funding could be utilized for would be down payment for some

705
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:46,680
home buyer programs for that population helping with infrastructure improvements to support

706
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:53,520
development of housing element sites. Preservation of existing affordable housing stock throughout

707
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:59,820
community, development of incentives, including feed deferrals, interest rate buy downs,

708
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:06,180
permit, streamlining, helping with utility upgrades to unlock zoning capacity, such as

709
00:58:06,180 --> 00:58:13,040
water, sewer, expansion, and acquisition and rehabilitation of at risk rental housing to preserve

710
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:19,300
long-term affordability. These are just some of the options of potential usage for the

711
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:21,740
potential revenue stream identified.

712
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,260
So we would need to do some due diligence requirements.

713
00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:30,000
Prior to any ballot measure consideration.

714
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,640
We would obviously need to work with our multiple department agencies,

715
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,460
County Council's assessor Recorder's office,

716
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,200
Housing Community Development,

717
00:58:39,860 --> 00:58:43,000
Elections Department regarding potentially doing a ballot measure.

718
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,580
As you can imagine, the diligence that we would be required

719
00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:55,820
We anticipate would take us about a month to do an initial assessment and return back to the board in April with a better

720
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:02,620
and overall comprehensive analysis of potential moving forward with a ballot measure.

721
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,480
So as far as he identified, the ballot measure will take, we estimate about 46 months.

722
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:19,980
We believe if we initiate now, we would be able to make the November ballot for this potential initiative to be placed on the November ballot.

723
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:25,480
Some of the areas that we would need to look at is obviously the Department on the

724
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,680
administrative considerations, competing departmental priorities that we do have with the

725
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,020
existing departments, the time considerations, and prioritizing this belt measure versus

726
00:59:36,020 --> 00:59:37,320
other county operations.

727
00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:43,060
The belt measure preparation, the development of a proposed tax

728
00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:49,300
structure would also involve some legal review that we would need to do, some community involvement

729
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:55,980
that we would need to understand community stakeholders and the impact of the potential

730
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,980
real estate market if this were to be implemented in our community.

731
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:13,800
So, some of the important factors for our board to consider is due to the potential volatility, the revenue stream, if the housing market does have an impact change.

732
01:00:14,020 --> 01:00:26,860
For example, if the housing market for properties above $10 million softens and the total number of those sales decreases, the revenue stream would obviously have some impacts to that.

733
01:00:26,860 --> 01:00:34,340
Also on the flip side, if the number of properties were to sell more above $10 million, the revenue potentially could increase.

734
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:45,220
We also have market dynamics that we would have to be cognizant of by adding a potential tax on top of the sales price of a property.

735
01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:47,340
What would that actually do to the market?

736
01:00:47,660 --> 01:00:50,160
Would that make the value of the properties decrease?

737
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:59,860
with that cause some concern for people into the market to buy a ultra-walthy residents.

738
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,440
We also have some legal considerations because this is a special tax.

739
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,120
It does require a two-thirds of the majority of voters.

740
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:20,140
We also open this up for potential for legal challenges related to the tax structure and the

741
01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:25,280
the development of procedures related to the implementation and collection of the tax,

742
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,340
how would that actually work? Those would need to be worked out.

743
01:01:28,540 --> 01:01:32,640
As well as we would probably also need to see with the polling and public engagement,

744
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,380
you know, the real estate groups out there,

745
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:38,300
the

746
01:01:38,980 --> 01:01:44,800
palletability of voters, whether a two thirds ballot on certain levels of tax,

747
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:52,260
there be a 1% or a 5% or somewhere in the middle there, what would be acceptable or palatable

748
01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:53,740
for voters in our community.

749
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,000
So with that, with the Board's consideration, some of the next steps

750
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,220
for us to consider as we prepare, depending on what the Board would like to do, we would obviously

751
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:09,740
need to do some feasibility and policy analysis work. We would need to work on the potential

752
01:02:09,740 --> 01:02:15,520
tax structure and ballot options, working with County Council on the additional departments.

753
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,920
We would need to do some fiscal and economic modeling.

754
01:02:19,660 --> 01:02:23,520
We would need to reach out and develop a community and stakeholder engagement campaign.

755
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,780
Potentially pick up some consultants to help us out with that polling.

756
01:02:29,260 --> 01:02:33,820
And ultimately bring it back for the Board's review and approval to be put on the

757
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:36,120
ballot for November election.

758
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,320
With that said, that is the report back for the referral.

759
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:48,160
and we are asking your boards consideration to provide direction on one of the following options

760
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,720
that we have on the screen today.

761
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:56,120
Great. Thank you for the confidence of report. I'll bring it to Supervisor Daniels as it is

762
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:01,700
her referral. Thank you chair ask you and thank you Michael for your presentation.

763
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,220
There was one correction I just want to make because it wasn't my intention for the referral

764
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:10,260
on it might have just been the way it was stated.

765
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,660
It's on page eight, top one, down payment

766
01:03:14,660 --> 01:03:16,340
and first time home buyers program.

767
01:03:16,420 --> 01:03:18,760
That's something that could be available to anyone

768
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,860
in the county.

769
01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:21,220
It wouldn't be restricted.

770
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,440
So I wrote some remarks here just to get super clear.

771
01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:29,560
I don't normally use written remarks,

772
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,960
but I'm going to today.

773
01:03:31,900 --> 01:03:34,800
It is my hope that after today's discussion,

774
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:36,940
my colleagues on the Board of Supervisors

775
01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:39,360
will join me in moving this initiative forward.

776
01:03:40,340 --> 01:03:43,900
I do want to take some time to describe the need for this proposal.

777
01:03:44,620 --> 01:03:48,000
Some additional thoughts that I've had since submitting this referral.

778
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,280
And the concerns about this proposal that some of my constituents have expressed.

779
01:03:54,320 --> 01:04:00,360
But before I begin, I want to express to my colleagues that we all know our communities intimately.

780
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:09,040
I try my best to learn from you about your districts and to advocate as a supervisor for what is best for your communities.

781
01:04:10,020 --> 01:04:18,380
I truly hope that you will hear me out as I share a few brief comments about why this proposal is so important to me and to district five.

782
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:26,320
On the need for this proposal, I want to be very clear about the specific housing challenge I am trying to solve.

783
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:36,320
While housing affordability is a county-wide issue, there is a unique challenge on the Monari Peninsula and along the District 5 coastline.

784
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:47,940
Overlapping factors, including the beauty of our region, which attracts visitors from all over the world, have produced a strong demand for second homes and retirement properties.

785
01:04:47,940 --> 01:04:59,980
This has created two separate housing markets, one tier of global buyers of second homes and luxury properties and a second market of our local workforce.

786
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:20,200
Mark it once sets the home prices and market two struggles to survive. I believe that without intentional action, the Monterey Peninsula is unlikely to ever see the production of housing that is affordable to the community again.

787
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:34,500
It is simple if left to market forces alone, developers will never produce units affordable to teachers, nurses, hospitality workers or public employees.

788
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,400
How does this impact all of us?

789
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:45,000
In addition to agriculture and education, Monterey County has a robust tourism economy.

790
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,300
And the county's general fund benefits from that economy.

791
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:55,900
If we do not address the Monterey Peninsula's housing shortage, we will reach a point where our success

792
01:05:55,900 --> 01:06:02,940
undermines the workforce needed to sustain that economy. As our workforce is priced out,

793
01:06:03,220 --> 01:06:09,920
communities become longer and more expensive. At a certain point, businesses will experience

794
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:15,740
staffing shortages that may result in shorter operating hours and reduced service levels.

795
01:06:15,740 --> 01:06:19,080
For some businesses, this is already happening.

796
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,520
This will ultimately affect the visitor experience, and as my colleagues on the Seab

797
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:30,560
Monterey Board will tell you, upholding the reputation of our region is of utmost importance

798
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,860
in this industry.

799
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,140
As I have said, we are in a unique position.

800
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:42,740
With our housing element, hopefully on the brink of adoption, we have an opportunity to successfully

801
01:06:42,740 --> 01:06:47,240
implement missing middle housing as required in our housing element.

802
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:53,960
Missing middle housing, as I've hopefully explained well, will never be

803
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,100
penciled out if left solely to the market and private developers.

804
01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:04,060
As part of our housing element responsibilities, we are also required to affirmatively

805
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:10,640
further fair housing. The high cost of coastal areas where ultra high value home

806
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,760
bills are concentrated also corresponds to the job centers of our local tourism economy.

807
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,440
Yet our workforce is increasingly priced out of living there.

808
01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:26,680
By encouraging housing to be built where the jobs are, we will meet a key requirement

809
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,340
of the sixth cycle housing element.

810
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,240
To be sure I've heard from a handful of you who are concerned that this proposal could

811
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:41,080
lackfire and ultimately lead to lower property tax revenues for the county if ultra high

812
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:46,820
value transaction volume decreases. In your letters and calls you have methodically walked

813
01:07:46,820 --> 01:07:52,620
me through the revenues that from your perspective far exceed those generated by transfer

814
01:07:52,620 --> 01:07:58,240
tax. Some of you have suggested alternate approaches, including rely on philanthropy

815
01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:04,360
to help fill the gap and spur the development of housing where we need it. Please know

816
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,140
that I have been engaged in the philanthropy sector for years.

817
01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:14,240
For good reason, philanthropy has focused primarily on our on-house residents and our most

818
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,380
vulnerable populations.

819
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,420
Another option raised has been applying a transfer tax across all home sales.

820
01:08:22,180 --> 01:08:28,280
Using this approach, a modest half percent transfer tax would yield approximately $1.2 million,

821
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:36,240
And a 1% transfer tax would generate roughly $2.000,000,000,000,000 from all homes sales in Monoray County,

822
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,180
unincorporated Monoray County.

823
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:46,900
By contrast, the proposed 3% transfer tax applied to 10 transactions in a single year would generate

824
01:08:46,900 --> 01:08:50,200
5.2 million dollars for the local housing fund.

825
01:08:51,060 --> 01:08:56,420
Similarly, some have suggested increasing TOT to build a local housing fund.

826
01:08:56,420 --> 01:09:04,680
A 1% increase in TOT, however, would similarly yield a significantly smaller amount compared to this proposal.

827
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:13,800
That said, as part of the next steps in this process, additional analysis will be required, and I'll be sure to share all your comments with county staff.

828
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:24,460
In conclusion, this proposed policy is one necessary step toward building housing that's affordable to our workforce and to our full-time residents.

829
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:33,740
I am very concerned about the future successes of our local economy and the county depends on some form of public intervention.

830
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:44,040
It has become increasing and clear to me that luxury homes, second homes and vacation homes dominate the market and drive up prices.

831
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:52,620
Because of this reality, missing middle housing has become completely infeasible without a mechanism such as this.

832
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:57,620
I look forward to my colleagues' thoughts and questions and to feedback from the public.

833
01:09:58,140 --> 01:09:59,020
Thank you very much.

834
01:10:01,870 --> 01:10:04,610
All right. Any questions from the board?

835
01:10:04,990 --> 01:10:06,390
As we can open it up to public comment.

836
01:10:08,980 --> 01:10:11,080
All right. Let's go ahead and open this up to public comment.

837
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:17,840
If you're with us in the chambers, if you could approach the front of the room, have a seat on the front row so that we are able to move everyone through public comment.

838
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:25,540
I will just do a quick time check. It is about 1146 and we do have a number of folks online as well. So we'll go ahead and get started.

839
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:29,820
If you are able to do your comments in less than two minutes, that would be appreciated.

840
01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:35,580
If you can convey them information, and again, we've also always are available to receive public comment

841
01:10:35,580 --> 01:10:43,640
because this will continue to be discussed to COB at countyofmoneray.gov so we can ensure that all comments are on the record.

842
01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:45,580
Go ahead. Thank you so much for being here.

843
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:51,680
Thank you. I'll say I don't want to be a community. I really don't. I agree we need to tax.

844
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,820
But I don't think this is the way to do it. The reason why I'm saying this is because you're going to start with

845
01:10:58,180 --> 01:11:02,820
Uncorporated, uncorporated, Monterey County, then you're going to come around and get the regular people too.

846
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:08,400
So I don't believe in that. Sorry. That's just your overtaxing the people.

847
01:11:09,020 --> 01:11:10,140
I don't believe in that at all.

848
01:11:11,140 --> 01:11:15,040
So if you're going to get money from somewhere else, try the federal government.

849
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,640
Those are the agencies you can use.

850
01:11:17,380 --> 01:11:20,920
I mean, you guys are all in challenging up here. You guys all can find money somewhere.

851
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,180
You guys don't have to do it when you need to do it.

852
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:26,640
to build arches and stuff and other things we don't need.

853
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,880
You guys find money to put it somewhere, me personally put on the ballot and let the people

854
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:37,420
decide, I agree but I think once you start taxing the millionaires, you're going to start

855
01:11:37,420 --> 01:11:42,480
taxing the regular people and you're not going to stop and that's all this starts.

856
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:47,240
If you get away with that, you're going to start getting away with everything else and I don't see anybody

857
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,460
overseeing it. Who's going to oversee all this money coming in? How do we know what the dollar

858
01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:58,100
month's going to be. Are you going to have a public entity helping you take care of this?

859
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:03,860
Because I see a lot of money go through here and I see a lot of money come in and things

860
01:12:03,860 --> 01:12:09,060
not getting done. You guys are not doing anything. I'm going to tell you why I had a conversation

861
01:12:09,060 --> 01:12:14,800
you want to talk about housing. I had two farm workers I saw here to represent it as

862
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,680
that were from the UFW. I had the last meeting here. I had a conversation with them. I asked

863
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:26,300
And what have you done for Selena's formwork or housing in the last 60 years, nothing?

864
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:27,640
What do you tell me?

865
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,740
We build stuff in Hollister.

866
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:30,760
We build stuff in King City.

867
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,080
I say, what about Selena's?

868
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,800
I say, you're exploiting all this, you know, this labor.

869
01:12:37,740 --> 01:12:39,860
These people that work hard, you're exploiting their labor.

870
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,680
You're not doing anything for them.

871
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,420
Put on the ballot.

872
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,340
That's what I say.

873
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,480
Well, you have W of the step up.

874
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:48,160
Congratulations guys.

875
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:48,660
Have a good day.

876
01:12:52,820 --> 01:12:59,300
Good afternoon, Supervisors. I applaud your efforts to bring this initiative thus far.

877
01:12:59,780 --> 01:13:08,540
My name is Jennifer Kiper and I'm the Senior Vice President with a bank and I'm a former chair of the Monterey Peninsula Chamber of Commerce.

878
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:18,820
And I want to speak not from the efforts that the chamber started as a direct result of the middle missing middle housing problem.

879
01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:33,380
All of the issues outlined in the call for public comment were certainly back to the table by business owners, but I want to speak personally.

880
01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:39,700
I returned to the Monterey Peninsula after 20 years away. It was born and raised in Pacific Grove.

881
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:56,420
And I was brought here to work as a senior vice president in banking and the only reason that I was able to afford to live here is because I have a family friend who was willing to rent to me at below market.

882
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:26,340
So I have a second job teaching Pilates and I save all of my money, but I just don't see a way for me to ever afford to buy a house here and I'm never not working and serving, I serve on many boards and I hear this all the time from my peers and it meant so much to me to be able to raise my daughter here.

883
01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:32,660
The vibrancy of our community is one that I think is worth considering protecting.

884
01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:44,420
We have a very special opportunity to look at an initiative that could provide some really compelling

885
01:14:44,420 --> 01:14:53,540
opportunity for people who are just like me who want to contribute and who don't qualify for

886
01:14:53,540 --> 01:14:59,980
federal subsidies or or the grace of philanthropists. I encourage you to send this to the ballot.

887
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,100
Thank you for the voters. Thank you.

888
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,700
I'm Cameron. I'll be brief. I applaud your efforts to bring this because my understanding of attacks

889
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:20,420
the few in their select purchase of exclusive real estate. In my opinion, if they're going to buy

890
01:15:20,420 --> 01:15:24,860
it, they're going to buy it at any price. And why should we not benefit from that? Recently,

891
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:30,960
I visited Amsterdam where they have the world's highest tourist-doxy-musi attacks. People are going to

892
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:35,340
go there and no matter what price they put on it quite frankly. And I believe there's a certain

893
01:15:35,340 --> 01:15:37,500
I'll mention that in Monterey County as well.

894
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,320
I think every one of us has been impacted recently.

895
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,680
One of my family members is in a position to have to be searching and possibly put out

896
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,120
of housing.

897
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,240
I think everybody in the room has been impacted in one way or another.

898
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:55,700
And if you just Google what AI is saying is the market value, it's a alarming anywhere.

899
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:58,180
So please do something serious about it.

900
01:15:58,180 --> 01:15:59,140
Thank you for your time.

901
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:05,850
I'm saying I can go for it.

902
01:16:05,850 --> 01:16:07,410
All right, that's good.

903
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:10,530
Senior advisor with Monterrey Economic Partnership, Matt Wetham,

904
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:12,430
Hello, Supervisors.

905
01:16:13,370 --> 01:16:15,310
And you might have seen our correspondence and

906
01:16:15,310 --> 01:16:18,590
BEP supports supervisor Daniels, efforts to initiate

907
01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:22,730
the study of potential transfer tax on high value homes

908
01:16:22,730 --> 01:16:25,190
in Monterrey County that would generate revenue to help

909
01:16:25,190 --> 01:16:28,250
increase the production and preservation of housing

910
01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:28,990
for our residents.

911
01:16:29,950 --> 01:16:33,890
We share Supervisor Daniels goals for serving the missing

912
01:16:33,890 --> 01:16:39,470
middle, residents earning 80 and 120 percent of the median area income, but this is just one

913
01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:46,550
component of the county's regional housing needs of over 3,000 new homes. The county has

914
01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:51,410
historically not performed well at achieving its goals for very low and low income residents.

915
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:56,690
The county should consider expanding the spending plan from any major revenue measure,

916
01:16:57,430 --> 01:17:01,250
perhaps financing for affordable housing that is reserved for very low and low and

917
01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:07,670
families who also work in a tourism and service industry near where these high-value homes are being sold.

918
01:17:08,430 --> 01:17:15,890
We strongly recommend that the county take the steps necessary to determine feasibility for this unique opportunity as outlined in the staff's report.

919
01:17:16,750 --> 01:17:24,390
The county's thorough analysis and community engagement will be able to determine this design of a ballot measure that has a strongest potential

920
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:30,690
to be approved by voters. Based on our experience voters typically want to invest scarce tax dollars

921
01:17:30,690 --> 01:17:35,790
to address housing for our most vulnerable populations such as seniors on fixed incomes,

922
01:17:36,290 --> 01:17:40,090
very low-income workers struggling to pay high rents and those at risk of homelessness.

923
01:17:40,830 --> 01:17:46,050
Voters also want to expand opportunities for local workforce to find housing in our community

924
01:17:46,050 --> 01:17:51,030
and to help them achieve home ownership wherever possible. Additionally, the county should evaluate

925
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:56,850
lowering the proposed threshold of 10 million to 5 million or other levels that would increase

926
01:17:56,850 --> 01:18:02,870
the size of the revenue measure and achieve significantly more impact. Finally, the county should

927
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:08,010
also study the best accountability provisions in other similar measures such as an oversight

928
01:18:08,010 --> 01:18:10,930
committee and annual reports. Thank you for your leadership.

929
01:18:19,540 --> 01:18:20,760
Good morning, modern county board of

930
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,740
supervisors. Thank you for considering this important item and thank you to the staff for your

931
01:18:24,740 --> 01:18:28,720
hard work in examining this and bringing it back for a report on such a prompt basis.

932
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,980
On behalf of the Monterey County Association of Realtors and over 1,300 real estate professionals

933
01:18:33,980 --> 01:18:39,940
serving Monterey County and its residents, we appreciate that Supervisor Daniels is prioritizing

934
01:18:39,940 --> 01:18:41,260
Missing Middle Housing.

935
01:18:42,260 --> 01:18:48,200
Resources exist for low and very low income housing and can serve those populations and

936
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,440
those resources absolutely, we need more of them, that's absolutely clear, but there are

937
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:58,160
with any resources serving the missing middle and so this is addressing a key gap in our

938
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:58,880
counties housing.

939
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,220
That said, we have concerns of staff, can you hear me okay?

940
01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:08,960
We appreciate that staff bring up the concerns about market impacts and I'll get back

941
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:13,940
to that in a minute and we also appreciate staff acknowledging the significant burden on staff

942
01:19:13,940 --> 01:19:17,140
time that implementing such a program which should have.

943
01:19:17,380 --> 01:19:20,840
These should all be part of the conversation as we continue to explore this idea further.

944
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:29,560
Studies of transfer taxes in general show a 6% to 8% decline in transactions for every 1% increase in transfer tax.

945
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:36,640
So, revenues should be expected to decline more sharply if you were to increase the rates even higher than proposed.

946
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:47,620
Economic conditions in years to come are uncertain inflation may worsen and prices may rise to the point where the threshold that seems high today may not be seen so high in a few more years.

947
01:19:47,620 --> 01:19:58,600
So to that end, it's important that we consider those possible futures and consider indexing the fund to a percentage of the median home price rather than a fixed number.

948
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,780
Our housing crisis is not forever. We should be able to resolve our housing problems, or at least mitigate

949
01:20:05,780 --> 01:20:10,760
them significantly. If this advances, it should have a sunset date built into it. If the housing

950
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:16,480
crisis persists, voters can re-approved this at a later date. I look forward to continuing this

951
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:20,540
conversation, and we'd very much like to be part of the community stakeholder meetings. Thank you.

952
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:29,710
Morning, everybody. I'm Jeff Morgan, the president of Chesapeise. First of all, supervisor,

953
01:20:29,710 --> 01:20:34,950
down so I want to applaud you for your moral courage, this affects your district greatly,

954
01:20:35,550 --> 01:20:40,350
but we're really talking about 10 households out of 150,000 a Monterey County.

955
01:20:41,210 --> 01:20:45,370
And in its groups of households where the prices are very inolastic, I think people

956
01:20:45,370 --> 01:20:49,370
they're buying 10 million dollar homes, usually have the cash to be able to afford it.

957
01:20:49,370 --> 01:20:54,570
I know there are taxes that go along with it. Like many things, it has to be focused.

958
01:20:54,570 --> 01:21:01,690
and we work with both workforce and affordable housing at low and extreme low, and while I absolutely

959
01:21:02,230 --> 01:21:06,970
want to see more funding in the extreme low and low income, I appreciate that you can't be all

960
01:21:06,970 --> 01:21:12,990
things to all people. In this case, what's being proposed is something that will have a lot of impact

961
01:21:12,990 --> 01:21:18,970
and frankly in an area where there are going to be serious structural issues if we don't have places

962
01:21:18,970 --> 01:21:26,190
first time for first entry-level first responders, for medical professionals, for teachers,

963
01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:31,750
we're certainly exploring rental housing in addition to for sale housing for the workforce.

964
01:21:32,430 --> 01:21:36,390
And so I support Kate Daniels' study. Thank you.

965
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:52,400
So, good afternoon supervisors. So, I wanted to comment about this tax for the extremely rich

966
01:21:52,400 --> 01:22:02,500
people and for the missing middle income level, well, recently I heard on the news that

967
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:13,620
the MVUSG is building on foot, not on foot road, on garden road, workforce housing, but they

968
01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:24,500
for the moderate, above moderate income. Now myself who worked for over 10 years at MPUSD

969
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:34,500
and needed a place to live, that just isn't going to help. So, you know, you're not really

970
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:42,180
doing anything about the gap between the rich and the poor with this tax. You're going to be providing

971
01:22:42,180 --> 01:22:50,100
high-income people. Yes, you will be providing moderate, above moderate, which is

972
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:59,760
$200,000 a year. That isn't the people like substitute teachers who, you know, when

973
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:07,940
I was working at MPEUSD, I was making what the McDonald's person is making today, $20

974
01:23:07,940 --> 01:23:15,860
an hour with no benefits. So, you know, that's not going to be helping workforce housing

975
01:23:16,660 --> 01:23:25,500
or a lot of people that actually work in the industry, hospitality, teaching, and so on.

976
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,420
Good morning, supervisors. My name is Chris Burr, President of ULAC and Salinas Council 25,

977
01:23:41,420 --> 01:23:48,160
a civil rights organization that has spent many decades advocating for dignity, opportunity,

978
01:23:48,780 --> 01:23:55,000
and fairness for working families. The housing crisis of Monterey County is not just an economic

979
01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:00,480
issue, it is a civil rights issue. When teachers cannot afford to live where they teach,

980
01:24:00,940 --> 01:24:06,040
when nurses cannot afford to live where they heal, when farm workers, construction workers,

981
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:12,020
and service workers are pushed hours away from from the communities they sustain something

982
01:24:12,020 --> 01:24:19,900
is fundamentally broken housing is a foundation of stability. It determines whether families

983
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:26,440
can stay together, whether children can remain in the same schools and whether workers can live

984
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:33,220
in the communities they serve. Right now, too many way, too many families are being pushed out

985
01:24:33,220 --> 01:24:38,860
monitoring county. While some of the most expensive luxury homes in the nation continue to sell

986
01:24:38,860 --> 01:24:44,980
for tens of millions of dollars. A transfer tax on properties valued over 10 million is not

987
01:24:44,980 --> 01:24:51,780
radical. It is responsible. It asks those benefiting from extra ordinary wealth in this region

988
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:58,940
to help invest in the stability of the community that makes that wealth possible. From a civil rights

989
01:24:58,940 --> 01:24:59,460
perspective.

990
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:07,140
Housing is about fairness. It is about ensuring that opportunity is not reserved only for the wealthy

991
01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:14,240
view, while the working majority is forced out. Creating a workforce and middle, missing middle

992
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:21,060
housing fund is a step towards restoring balance and protecting the future of our communities. If we truly

993
01:25:21,060 --> 01:25:28,340
believe in opportunity, dignity and equity, then we must act. I urge you to support this proposal. Thank you.

994
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,320
I Peter Zalai, candidate for mayor of Salinas.

995
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:45,580
So I recently went to a housing and land use committee meeting in Salinas and they were

996
01:25:45,580 --> 01:25:51,040
getting a report on the city's progress towards housing and in the three lower categories

997
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:56,080
in the very low, low and moderate categories there was zero progress.

998
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:02,940
And in Harkin back to my own experience, my family moved to Salinas in 1972.

999
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:08,740
My father was in E7 and the Army had served for 20 years, and my mother did not work.

1000
01:26:08,980 --> 01:26:13,340
And so the three of us bought a home in 1972, and a North Salinas neighborhood.

1001
01:26:13,940 --> 01:26:17,320
They like houses in Toro Park, but they couldn't afford that, but there was a new community

1002
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:17,940
in Salinas.

1003
01:26:18,540 --> 01:26:21,220
And a lot of their friends had moved there when they retired from the military.

1004
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:27,240
The house that they bought cost $27,500, and they were able to scrape together the $3,000

1005
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,060
down payment.

1006
01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:31,440
We would not be able to afford that house today.

1007
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:37,580
The market value of that house, where my mom still is, she's aging in place, is about $650,000.

1008
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,980
And so I applaud this initiative.

1009
01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:46,400
I think it is a worthy idea that should advance.

1010
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,500
I think the next step is a feasibility study, is that correct to understand.

1011
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:51,780
So I'm fully in support of this initiative.

1012
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:00,000
Good afternoon.

1013
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:00,900
We're the supervisor.

1014
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:02,160
Do we struggle?

1015
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,880
What is for building health communities?

1016
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:08,500
neighborhood organizer with the, uh, uh, the Sintario's Prosperos, uh, thriving neighborhoods.

1017
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:13,500
And as some of you may know, we've been on the campaign around rent stabilization.

1018
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:19,920
So this discussion is really exciting because it does contribute to the idea of stabilizing our local economy

1019
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:32,140
as you know and don't need to repeat just how just the degrees of wealth and the inequity in our community.

1020
01:27:32,140 --> 01:27:39,060
You know, you know how it is, we've studied it and here we are moving on this piece, it's exciting.

1021
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:47,320
And I say this, I say this has a representative, you know, working for the community I currently live in,

1022
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:56,820
and speaking of prices, like my parents bought their home on the 700 block of town street for $11,000 in 1968.

1023
01:27:56,820 --> 01:28:03,440
You know, and, wow, we were able, growing up, we were able to experience that blue-colored

1024
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:10,740
dream because there were over 15 factories here in the valley that we were able to, where

1025
01:28:10,740 --> 01:28:16,300
a lot of farm workers, such as my father, came as a brazzetto, graduated to.

1026
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,360
And we had that experience, we were able to experience that blue-colored dream.

1027
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:26,700
And so, this feels like a good strong message and fully in support of it.

1028
01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:27,400
Thank you.

1029
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,560
Well, good afternoon, Supervisors.

1030
01:28:39,220 --> 01:28:39,780
Thank you, Kate.

1031
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:48,220
I do support this initiative as a appointee to the Housing Advisory Committee.

1032
01:28:49,380 --> 01:28:53,160
When I ask, every meet, we talk, we talk, we talk, we talk, we talk, we talk, I'm like,

1033
01:28:53,260 --> 01:28:56,820
what can we do to get more housing, what can we need more money?

1034
01:28:57,440 --> 01:28:58,060
We need more money.

1035
01:28:58,060 --> 01:29:03,380
So this is one avenue, and I could also speak as an educator and a small business owner.

1036
01:29:05,540 --> 01:29:07,100
Our teachers do need a place to live.

1037
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,940
I don't think people understand that dire straights were in with their education.

1038
01:29:11,700 --> 01:29:16,260
Only 17% of all students that slings in high school district are proficient in math.

1039
01:29:17,020 --> 01:29:17,860
We need good teachers.

1040
01:29:17,860 --> 01:29:18,820
We need good teachers here.

1041
01:29:18,820 --> 01:29:24,440
If we don't do something for housing, we're going to keep losing good teachers and the

1042
01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:29,260
school's on replace the teachers with computers. That's not working. So we need the housing.

1043
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:36,000
So I do applaud this. I think you need to study. And that would find more ways to get money for housing.

1044
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:37,900
Thank you.

1045
01:29:46,700 --> 01:29:51,840
Hello, my name is Daniel Muñoz. I just want to give big credit to Daniels for what you're doing.

1046
01:29:52,060 --> 01:29:55,780
And this is in Europe, probably affecting people in your area, probably more than everybody here.

1047
01:29:56,060 --> 01:29:59,760
So I know you're going to make a lot of enemies doing this or at least maybe what 10th, right?

1048
01:29:59,760 --> 01:29:59,960
Okay.

1049
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:29,980
So, I applaud you for that. The takes don'ts to do that. So, shout out to you for doing that. But I do agree with this gentleman. He said, we should be maybe 5. Instead of 10 million. So, we can get more money right in the pool. Just an idea, but I do agree with what you're doing. I think we need to go. And we need to find more ways to get money from the ultra rich like this. This is just, I think, a start of it. And, and I applaud you for doing that. And I hope that the board votes to, yes, you know. So, we can do that.

1050
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,020
can go forward with it and maybe have it in the November ballot.

1051
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:34,820
That's just all I have to say about it.

1052
01:30:34,820 --> 01:30:35,480
Thank you for your guys.

1053
01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:36,680
Have a good day.

1054
01:30:42,580 --> 01:30:43,080
Morning Board.

1055
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:43,680
Chair.

1056
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:44,720
My name is Brian Shields.

1057
01:30:44,820 --> 01:30:46,400
I feel to wrap with Carpenters Local 646.

1058
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,080
Thanks for the time listening to me speak.

1059
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:53,480
In general, we're supportive of creating opportunities through construction, obviously.

1060
01:30:54,440 --> 01:31:01,840
But on the back end, we need to make sure that the provisions that are in place for the construction to happen.

1061
01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:08,220
bolster people living here being able to stay here at health care market that's fragile

1062
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:14,040
as well. As prevailing which work goes out, there's a lot of things that can happen that

1063
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:20,700
both help the health care system at this point in time as well as give somebody more secure

1064
01:31:20,700 --> 01:31:26,360
position in being able to stay in a company working in an area that they live. Our members

1065
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,680
are continuing to get pushed out further and further and further and further and further making

1066
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:36,360
can use the San Francisco in order to do the work that they have, and so creating opportunities

1067
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,960
here in the local economy would be tremendous.

1068
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:44,780
On top of that, like I said, our members are being pushed out.

1069
01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:52,160
We are part of that missing middle, and unless you create a whole bunch of wealth, or you

1070
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:58,660
drop down into a lower bracket, any kind of subsistence or ability to buy, purchase rent,

1071
01:31:58,660 --> 01:32:00,660
even is doendling.

1072
01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:02,520
So thank you.

1073
01:32:05,710 --> 01:32:05,790
All right.

1074
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:07,570
Is there anyone else in chambers for public comment?

1075
01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:08,470
Please approach.

1076
01:32:09,130 --> 01:32:09,270
All right.

1077
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:10,810
Seeing no one, we're going to move online.

1078
01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:12,610
We do have a handful of hands raised.

1079
01:32:13,130 --> 01:32:15,550
So I'll just remind everyone that we have two minutes for public comment.

1080
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:19,650
And we, if you're able to make your comments and less than that, that's great.

1081
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:23,570
But we appreciate you being able to weigh in on this issue today.

1082
01:32:23,810 --> 01:32:27,210
We're going to start with Esther Melkin and then go to Colleen Ingram.

1083
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:31,020
Good morning.

1084
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:32,140
Good afternoon, everybody.

1085
01:32:32,140 --> 01:32:40,480
I created Monterey County Wrenters United almost a decade ago, not ever even realizing how bad things would get.

1086
01:32:40,940 --> 01:32:48,940
I live in Kay Daniels district in the city of Monterey in what is supposedly the most affordable neighborhood pretty much on the peninsula.

1087
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:53,380
And I'm going to tell you about a couple of my neighbors stories that I have had.

1088
01:32:53,500 --> 01:33:02,120
And I can go on but in two minutes there's no even in two hours I couldn't give you all the examples that have come across my path.

1089
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:12,740
For me to listen to these situations that something like this, a creative way to address what we need, which is to build housing.

1090
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:19,100
And the only, the only conversation that really goes around about housing is build more.

1091
01:33:19,660 --> 01:33:25,080
Well, we're not going to be able to build more quick wolf. And this is a way that we can start addressing that.

1092
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:31,980
This is a way that the needs of the many should outweigh the handful of people that it will affect.

1093
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:38,280
So let me tell you about a story of a couple, a young couple that were living here, working.

1094
01:33:38,980 --> 01:33:41,820
They got pregnant, unexpectedly had twins.

1095
01:33:42,380 --> 01:33:48,160
When they came home from the hospital, they could only bring one of the babies home because they had to be in the NICU.

1096
01:33:48,300 --> 01:33:48,940
They were premature.

1097
01:33:48,940 --> 01:33:53,860
They were living in a studio apartment, when they brought home the second baby.

1098
01:33:54,140 --> 01:33:58,900
They were given an eviction notice because there were too many people that were going to be living in that unit.

1099
01:33:59,500 --> 01:34:04,100
That unit was owned by a previously elected official on the City Council of Monterey.

1100
01:34:05,140 --> 01:34:07,260
We have seniors here.

1101
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,200
I have a neighbor across the street.

1102
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,140
I had to put down her pets because after 45 years living in a house,

1103
01:34:14,420 --> 01:34:16,800
she couldn't find anything and left the area.

1104
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:28,160
We have an elected official that had to leave her position on the school board because she could not find a rental and we also have multiple city count city positions like engineers and police department

1105
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:32,800
staff that cannot we have had open positions for years that we cannot hire.

1106
01:34:37,580 --> 01:34:41,080
Next up we have Colleen Ingram followed by Liam McLaughlin.

1107
01:34:44,660 --> 01:34:53,060
Yes, thank you for taking my call. I live in Pacific Grove and I'm here to support the proposed transfer tax on the ultra luxury homes

1108
01:34:53,060 --> 01:34:57,040
because this is about people who want to make communities work.

1109
01:34:57,700 --> 01:34:59,800
In Pacific Grove, we're watching our communities slowly.

1110
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:08,960
News, the very people we depend on, our school enrollment keeps dropping, which means less funding for teachers and fewer resources for our kids.

1111
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,100
We've been hearing about the numbers, but, you know, this is about real people.

1112
01:35:13,820 --> 01:35:20,440
When my long-time doctor retired three years ago, I couldn't find an in-network replacement to see me without a six-month wait.

1113
01:35:21,060 --> 01:35:27,320
I was fortunate enough to have the financial support to go out of network, but that choice shouldn't be a luxury.

1114
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,920
Many of my neighbors don't have that option.

1115
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:35,840
This transfer tax addresses some of the funding of fundamental issues that we have for people

1116
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:39,640
who serve our community, and they should be able to live here.

1117
01:35:39,940 --> 01:35:45,560
We're talking about a small number of ultra-electric sales each year, but that impact could

1118
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,800
really be transformative for our communities.

1119
01:35:49,180 --> 01:35:55,300
Other California cities that were noted in the agenda item, like Los Angeles, Santa Monica,

1120
01:35:55,300 --> 01:36:04,600
San Jose, they've all used similar taxes, and they've done it in different ways, but it's really generating results for their housing and helping people.

1121
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,100
Imagine what this could do for our cities in Monterey County.

1122
01:36:09,660 --> 01:36:14,980
Teachers can actually afford to live where they teach, so our schools could be stronger or kids could benefit.

1123
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:21,000
Healthcare workers who don't have to choose between serving our community and having their own place to call home.

1124
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:25,940
Nurses, firefighters, and other essential workers who can build their lives here instead of

1125
01:36:25,940 --> 01:36:30,180
committing hours just to a foregrant, and we've heard the stories here.

1126
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:38,360
I also would like to see it be applied to something less than 10 million, but a 10 million

1127
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:45,840
dollar home is just asking for contribution for the people that live here and function.

1128
01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:47,380
It seems very reasonable.

1129
01:36:48,620 --> 01:36:49,160
Thank you.

1130
01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:54,180
All right, Liam, we've got you up next.

1131
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:54,980
Followed by Megan.

1132
01:36:58,690 --> 01:36:59,690
Logan, you hear me?

1133
01:37:00,710 --> 01:37:01,150
We can.

1134
01:37:01,250 --> 01:37:02,050
Thank you.

1135
01:37:03,070 --> 01:37:03,790
Thank you.

1136
01:37:04,110 --> 01:37:05,190
So, my name is Liam McLaughlin,

1137
01:37:05,250 --> 01:37:06,530
and I'm the political and community

1138
01:37:06,530 --> 01:37:08,390
organizer with SC-521,

1139
01:37:08,510 --> 01:37:10,050
the Union that represents city

1140
01:37:10,810 --> 01:37:14,130
and county workers across California.

1141
01:37:15,070 --> 01:37:16,650
And I'm giving talent on behalf of

1142
01:37:16,650 --> 01:37:17,610
the event carry on.

1143
01:37:17,810 --> 01:37:19,710
She to make a few two up as you work schedule.

1144
01:37:20,210 --> 01:37:21,310
Even as work with Monterey,

1145
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:23,390
county behavior health for over 20 years.

1146
01:37:23,690 --> 01:37:25,030
She serves SC-521's chair.

1147
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:28,850
of the committee on political education and on her unions accounting chapter board.

1148
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:33,730
So, event has lived in Monterey to understand how high-hausing cost of effective community,

1149
01:37:34,490 --> 01:37:39,710
specifically she says, when poor and working class people are priced out, the community loses

1150
01:37:39,710 --> 01:37:44,630
essential workers, like farm workers, caregivers, cleaners, restaurant staff, retail employees,

1151
01:37:45,310 --> 01:37:50,250
meanwhile, stable housing. Improves children's education, health, and emotional

1152
01:37:50,250 --> 01:37:52,550
well being an affordable home to reduce homelessness.

1153
01:37:53,570 --> 01:37:55,330
Many, however, many long-time residents

1154
01:37:55,330 --> 01:37:57,450
are being priced out, not because they failed,

1155
01:37:57,870 --> 01:38:00,030
but because the housing market is favoring wealthier

1156
01:38:00,030 --> 01:38:01,130
newcomers and investors.

1157
01:38:02,370 --> 01:38:04,510
And for the workforce, including county workers,

1158
01:38:04,670 --> 01:38:07,190
pricing people out increases commute times, traffic,

1159
01:38:07,710 --> 01:38:09,010
and adds to stress at work.

1160
01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:13,130
So while I see that you have an official abortion process

1161
01:38:13,130 --> 01:38:14,370
and should this make it on the ballot,

1162
01:38:14,610 --> 01:38:16,470
we'll go through that at that time.

1163
01:38:16,930 --> 01:38:19,710
Housing affordability is a key part of our unions' values.

1164
01:38:19,710 --> 01:38:26,630
We strongly support efforts to tackle the affordable of the crisis head-on in Monterey County and in the Peninsula in particular and then finally

1165
01:38:26,630 --> 01:38:34,970
Just quick word and solidarity with the trades SGA would love to see a countywide PLA to go along with this and any other efforts to build affordable housing

1166
01:38:34,970 --> 01:38:37,350
So thank you so much for your work on this

1167
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:41,370
Supervisor Daniels and everyone and we support the concept. Thanks

1168
01:38:43,700 --> 01:38:47,500
Thank you Liam next up. We have Megan will then follow the Christine wing

1169
01:38:56,850 --> 01:39:01,990
Megan, we've got you up next, but you'll have to unmute in order to comment.

1170
01:39:02,850 --> 01:39:03,670
That's for Megan Willden.

1171
01:39:04,190 --> 01:39:04,350
Okay.

1172
01:39:04,750 --> 01:39:05,570
Yeah, if I got it.

1173
01:39:08,530 --> 01:39:10,670
Thank you so much, supervisors.

1174
01:39:11,450 --> 01:39:15,990
I am a fourth generation resident of Monterey, California, who cannot afford to buy

1175
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:19,050
a home in my hometown where I grew up.

1176
01:39:19,210 --> 01:39:23,110
For four generations, my family has been active in the local community.

1177
01:39:23,730 --> 01:39:26,330
My great grandfather came to Monterey from San Juan,

1178
01:39:26,330 --> 01:39:29,070
the Tista as a young man, raised his family

1179
01:39:29,070 --> 01:39:32,050
and spent the rest of his life here serving the community,

1180
01:39:32,350 --> 01:39:35,350
including as a tutor, mayor, postmaster general,

1181
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:38,510
leader with the local chamber, small business owner,

1182
01:39:38,810 --> 01:39:40,810
and more his son, Jack Dordy,

1183
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:43,850
continued his legacy of active community leadership

1184
01:39:43,850 --> 01:39:46,510
and betterment, together with partners,

1185
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:48,470
they turned the historic Monos,

1186
01:39:48,570 --> 01:39:51,070
Adobe into a leading hotel in Monterey,

1187
01:39:51,410 --> 01:39:54,450
the Casa Monos, his daughter, Kathy Wilde,

1188
01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:59,570
and my mother also made her life long home here in Monterey as a county super social.

1189
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:06,200
Worker, she was instrumental in working with people with AIDS and cases of both child and elder abuse.

1190
01:40:06,700 --> 01:40:13,020
After retiring, she co-founded the fund for homeless women raising awareness in several million dollars

1191
01:40:13,020 --> 01:40:20,660
that jump started gathering for women, the Casa de No Trebleyne, Schumann Harthouse shelters, and more.

1192
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:29,120
After a career in non-profit leadership on East Coast, I returned to my beloved hometown to give back,

1193
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,480
but so much has changed over the years

1194
01:40:31,480 --> 01:40:36,380
that I cannot afford to live here independently anymore.

1195
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,040
Much like, let's see,

1196
01:40:42,420 --> 01:40:44,580
moderate-stiverse history and quality of life

1197
01:40:44,580 --> 01:40:47,240
is deteriorating due to the influx of second,

1198
01:40:47,260 --> 01:40:50,140
third and fourth homeowners on the ultra-rich.

1199
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,080
Much like the sea urchins are creating deserts

1200
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,920
on the ocean floor and destroying kelp forest,

1201
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:58,400
part-time homeowners are displacing

1202
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:04,080
local residents and will create a lifeless community desert of mostly empty houses.

1203
01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:09,760
Who will care about our home? Thank you so much for proposing this ordinance.

1204
01:41:12,380 --> 01:41:17,980
Thank you, Megan. Next, we have Christine Wing, followed by Anna, I'm Mayor Anna Velasquez.

1205
01:41:22,540 --> 01:41:26,560
Hi. Good afternoon, Chair ask you. The members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Christine Wingy.

1206
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:31,500
I am the CEO of Milton Wheel of the Monterey Peninsula and a lifelong resident of Monterey County,

1207
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:34,600
who has watched our community change dramatically over the decades.

1208
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:40,740
As the CEO of Mealson Wheels, I see the human cost of our housing crisis every single day.

1209
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:47,120
Many of the senior we serve are hanging on by its red in homes they've lived in for decades.

1210
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:52,980
They are on fixed incomes facing rising property taxes, escalating utility costs, and

1211
01:41:52,980 --> 01:41:55,040
deferred maintenance they can no longer afford.

1212
01:41:55,540 --> 01:41:57,440
These are not people living in luxury.

1213
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:03,060
They are teachers, creates people, nurses, and service workers who built this community and

1214
01:42:03,060 --> 01:42:07,100
who now struggle to age in place and remain part of it.

1215
01:42:07,460 --> 01:42:11,320
When these seniors are forced to leave the ripple effects are devastating, they lose not

1216
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:15,700
just their homes, but their social networks, their proximity to healthcare providers, and

1217
01:42:15,700 --> 01:42:18,320
the community ties that keep them healthy and engaged.

1218
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:24,060
And when they leave, we lose the very fabric of what makes the Monarchy Peninsula a real community

1219
01:42:24,060 --> 01:42:27,860
rather than a collection of vacation properties and investment portfolios.

1220
01:42:28,540 --> 01:42:31,380
But the crisis extends well beyond our senior population.

1221
01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:35,400
The caregivers and staff who deliver meals, the drivers, the volunteers,

1222
01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:38,260
many of them face their own housing struggles.

1223
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,720
We have seen dedicated employees leave the peninsula entirely

1224
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,180
because they simply cannot afford to live here anymore.

1225
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:46,940
This is the missing middle in action.

1226
01:42:47,420 --> 01:42:50,620
Hardworking people who are in too much to qualify for subsidized housing

1227
01:42:50,620 --> 01:42:55,900
but far too little to compete in a market dominated by multi-million dollar homesales.

1228
01:42:55,980 --> 01:42:58,240
I urge the board to move forward with this proposal.

1229
01:42:58,620 --> 01:43:04,460
Thank you, Supervisor Daniels for continuing to support all of us here in district five.

1230
01:43:04,860 --> 01:43:07,240
And thank you all for your time and your service to our community.

1231
01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:13,800
All right, Mayor of Alaska's and then P.K. Defemba.

1232
01:43:18,010 --> 01:43:19,230
Hello, can you hear me?

1233
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:21,130
Yes, thank you.

1234
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:24,500
Yes, sorry.

1235
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:30,020
Yeah, as a mayor, I hear every week from residents who are struggling with the cost of housing.

1236
01:43:30,220 --> 01:43:34,080
These are teachers, first responders, young families, and long-term community members.

1237
01:43:34,900 --> 01:43:39,940
And this reality is simple. Housing costs are outpacing incomes, and it's affecting the stability

1238
01:43:39,940 --> 01:43:44,260
and character of all of our communities. And many of the people who serve our communities,

1239
01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:49,760
you know, as we hear, can no longer afford to live to live in them. And this leads to

1240
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:54,020
longer commutes work for shortages and increased pressure in our infrastructure.

1241
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,680
If we want thriving balance communities, we also need housing options for all income

1242
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,020
levels, not just the very high end.

1243
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:08,280
So this proposal focuses on our highest intersections and these policies intentionally

1244
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:08,960
narrow.

1245
01:44:09,380 --> 01:44:13,220
And it applies only two home sales above the 10 million families.

1246
01:44:13,220 --> 01:44:16,220
That means it does not impact typical homeowners or working families.

1247
01:44:16,220 --> 01:44:21,900
instead it asks those benefiting from extraordinary real estate values to contribute modestly

1248
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:26,860
to addressing a shared regional challenge. One of the biggest barriers to solving the housing

1249
01:44:26,860 --> 01:44:32,000
crisis is lack of reliable funding. So this approach could generate millions annually that

1250
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:37,840
stayed local and are dedicated specifically to housing solutions. That funding can support our first

1251
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,980
time home buyers are workforce housing and infrastructure needed to actually build the homes.

1252
01:44:42,980 --> 01:44:48,240
When housing becomes an affordable and risk losing the very people who make our communities function,

1253
01:44:48,700 --> 01:44:53,860
investing in the missing middle housing and work for housing helps retain our local talent

1254
01:44:53,860 --> 01:44:57,400
and support our small businesses and preserves community diversity.

1255
01:44:58,020 --> 01:44:59,700
So it's not just a housing issue.

1256
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:20,720
It's an economic and quality of life issue. High housing costs are one of the defining challenges facing our communities currently. And this proposal represents a targeted thoughtful approach to generating local solutions. As a mayor, I support moving this forward so we can fully evaluate its potential to help the people who need it the most. Thank you.

1257
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,420
Thank you. Next up, we have PK different by.

1258
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,880
Good afternoon, supervisors. Thanks for the opportunity to speak on this issue.

1259
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,560
And first, I just want to commend all of you for discussing this.

1260
01:45:39,580 --> 01:45:52,180
You're the first public body that I'm aware of that is discussing the possibility of adding a dedicated funding stream to missing middle housing.

1261
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,420
And that's something that is extremely needed.

1262
01:45:55,420 --> 01:46:03,120
and let me tell you why. I've now been superintendent for 12 years and every year we've hired

1263
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:11,780
between 80 and 100 teachers that represents approximately 20% of our teaching force and people

1264
01:46:11,780 --> 01:46:17,700
leave primarily because of the high cost of living on the peninsula specifically citing

1265
01:46:17,700 --> 01:46:24,400
housing as one of the biggest reasons why they're seeking employment elsewhere and so you

1266
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:33,620
see the impact of new to the profession teachers at that rate coming into our system as a tremendous

1267
01:46:33,620 --> 01:46:39,920
impact on the quality of education that we're able to provide for our students. And so we along

1268
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:45,780
with you have been working on trying to solve this and we did purchase a 64 unit apartment complex

1269
01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:56,640
and we targeted this exact population between 80% and 120% of AMI and for those 64 units

1270
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:02,420
we had over 200 applications. So that gives you the sense of the need that's out there

1271
01:47:02,420 --> 01:47:08,160
and really the desperation that so many of our employees are of when it comes to finding reliable

1272
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:15,540
housing. So I know that no one ordinance will solve all our problems. I know there's not a silver bullet

1273
01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:21,740
But we can make a difference and this proposal is one tangible step forward.

1274
01:47:22,180 --> 01:47:28,640
I commend you for taking it up and I urge that you pass this and move it on to the next phase.

1275
01:47:29,140 --> 01:47:30,780
Thank you so much.

1276
01:47:31,940 --> 01:47:32,660
Thank you, P.K.

1277
01:47:33,180 --> 01:47:34,220
That is the final hand race.

1278
01:47:34,340 --> 01:47:39,280
I'm going to close public comment and bring it back to the board for some discussion.

1279
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:41,460
We'll go to Supervisor Church.

1280
01:47:43,490 --> 01:47:47,590
Oh, see, I had some notes here, and I've scrubbed a lot on quite a bit, so I'm going

1281
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:52,930
to try to make sense going forth by a lot of great comments from the public and the

1282
01:47:52,930 --> 01:47:56,510
presentation, and I appreciate Supervisor Daniels bringing this forward.

1283
01:47:56,570 --> 01:47:59,030
I'm generally supportive of it.

1284
01:47:59,030 --> 01:48:01,970
I want a little clarification on a few other points.

1285
01:48:02,710 --> 01:48:06,310
One of them, I know we're talking about me being bringing something back in about a month,

1286
01:48:07,870 --> 01:48:11,710
so I'm directing my comments in that direction of more information.

1287
01:48:11,710 --> 01:48:15,750
And I am supportive of the idea of looking at this

1288
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:19,010
from $5 million dollars and I think that's important.

1289
01:48:19,770 --> 01:48:22,490
I think whether you've got $5 million

1290
01:48:22,490 --> 01:48:24,310
for a home or $10 million for a home,

1291
01:48:24,590 --> 01:48:25,810
it's not quite the same as shop

1292
01:48:25,810 --> 01:48:28,830
and for trying to find a home for $7 and create $100,000.

1293
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:34,290
There's obviously resources available for folks

1294
01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:39,430
that are doing that, that isn't at the entry level.

1295
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:52,530
So, I would like to be interested in seeing what those numbers would affect and how that would look county-wide as the 10 homes that we're looking at are all right now on the peninsula, essentially.

1296
01:48:53,710 --> 01:49:03,510
We'd also be interested in seeing some sort of a staggered amount here at percentage, maybe that goes from 1 to 5% as the home gets more affordable.

1297
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:06,650
we've started one percent of five, maybe go out of five percent at 10.

1298
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:11,010
These are just options just to look at, so we have more information available.

1299
01:49:12,910 --> 01:49:21,590
One thing I'm not against, I just want some little looking for clarification and it might

1300
01:49:22,710 --> 01:49:25,390
be whether we can make it a little more expansive.

1301
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:31,050
I know the proposal is to spend the money in the jurisdiction where this is, but we're

1302
01:49:31,050 --> 01:49:33,490
to look in something that needs two-thirds vote countywide.

1303
01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:37,690
And realistically, that means you need to offer something countywide.

1304
01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:44,670
So I would, you know, like to explore that, of course, if we're going to $5 million on

1305
01:49:44,670 --> 01:49:48,630
a home, that might very well solve that problem as well.

1306
01:49:49,130 --> 01:49:52,110
I don't know that's some of the clarifications, but need out of it.

1307
01:49:52,110 --> 01:49:57,870
And I know we're talking about the missing middle and workforce housing, and that is, as

1308
01:49:57,870 --> 01:49:59,970
I've made many comments up here over the last few years.

1309
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:08,000
There's something that's really, really short on, but there are never as enough resources for a low-income

1310
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:13,940
folks, as well. And I realize that it's going to take two thirds if this past, we're never really going

1311
01:50:13,940 --> 01:50:18,660
to be able to bring it back to change it again. So I would like to make this as expansive as possible,

1312
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:23,920
get under consideration, if it's not asking for too much and what we're doing, and what we're trying to achieve,

1313
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,960
that it would include a broader range of housing possibilities.

1314
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,260
And so those are basic, well, not all the basic parameters.

1315
01:50:33,540 --> 01:50:35,820
And to hear, I guess one, the other things in here too,

1316
01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:39,100
would be potentially having an inflation peg

1317
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:43,180
or index somehow, because again,

1318
01:50:43,340 --> 01:50:44,800
it's have to kind of go back to a vote.

1319
01:50:45,500 --> 01:50:47,440
And I don't know, 50 years from now,

1320
01:50:47,660 --> 01:50:48,560
but this is still in the books.

1321
01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:52,420
I have a little $5 million home might be entry level for all I know.

1322
01:50:52,420 --> 01:51:00,600
So I'd like to like to see us try to address anything that might be a future issue down the line.

1323
01:51:01,380 --> 01:51:04,440
Let me see other points on here.

1324
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:13,440
There was a comment that came up and I think it was a very good comment about the study showing that

1325
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:23,040
But with these transfer taxes that there is a reduction in sales and my only question on

1326
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:27,880
that is that just looking at these ultra expensive homes or that looking at the full

1327
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:35,580
market because obviously if you have a 5% transfer tax on a $1 million home, that's next

1328
01:51:35,580 --> 01:51:40,960
to $50,000, it could chase somebody out, if you got $10 million, you have a 5% as $500,000

1329
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,260
but a person with that kind of money probably is not going to have the same problem.

1330
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:49,760
So what I would suggest doing is maybe looking at these comparable jurisdictions that we

1331
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:55,380
have identified on here and going through and maybe contacting them getting some information

1332
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:59,660
what kind of problems they've had, have they had a decline by having this, be some of them

1333
01:51:59,660 --> 01:52:05,660
a rather low, 1.8 million still is a nice home but Santa Cruz is way lower than everybody

1334
01:52:05,660 --> 01:52:11,380
I also airmue bills only at a million and wristbands at a million, that's just way too low in my opinion.

1335
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:17,660
But you know, I'd be nice to know how those impact ways out in each of those.

1336
01:52:19,140 --> 01:52:25,340
I wouldn't like to have it, so that is specifically state's residential zoning onto here.

1337
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:32,380
I think that would avoid anything coming in to Ag, for example, as well as commercial.

1338
01:52:32,380 --> 01:52:37,880
I mean, I know of one piece of property in my district that has a restaurant and several

1339
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,640
couple of three homes onto it.

1340
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,760
Well, technically if that sells, that could be over five million or however much it might

1341
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:43,920
be.

1342
01:52:43,940 --> 01:52:44,460
I have no idea.

1343
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:52,120
That is the type of a situation, a real estate transaction that we're trying to involve

1344
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:52,500
in here.

1345
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,600
I think holding it to residential zoning would be important.

1346
01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:04,480
And finally, my last comment is, just would like on the possible options here that we're

1347
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:08,140
looking at of down payments, housing projects.

1348
01:53:10,180 --> 01:53:15,940
If we were able to roughly flesh out exactly how that money could be possibly spent, how

1349
01:53:15,940 --> 01:53:21,720
many people it might be helping, I think that would be useful and determining where we have

1350
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,940
to go from here on that.

1351
01:53:24,020 --> 01:53:25,000
And that's all my comments.

1352
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:26,140
thank you.

1353
01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:36,320
I concur with much of what a supervisor church just put out there. I think the questions

1354
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:41,940
around we keep talking about home so that clear delineation with Ag and I think we're all making

1355
01:53:41,940 --> 01:53:47,040
assumptions based on how we read certain texts so just making sure that that's clear the other

1356
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:54,540
piece around making sure we peg it to something because I agree 10 million today seems like a big amount

1357
01:53:54,540 --> 01:53:58,800
but 20, 30 years from now if we're not going to put a sunset on it, we need to have that

1358
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:02,460
line to know where that is because someday that could be an average home last night.

1359
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:07,580
I got an email from a resident of district five and she said, you know, the average home

1360
01:54:07,580 --> 01:54:10,500
cost in my neighborhood, it's 2 million. I look it up and it's actually now over 3 million.

1361
01:54:10,660 --> 01:54:14,320
I was like, all right, that's getting close to the number we may be talking about tomorrow at five,

1362
01:54:14,460 --> 01:54:20,480
right? And that was an average home. It was not a splendid mansion on the coast. It was a basic home

1363
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:23,880
that was originally, I think, sold for $300,000 back in the day

1364
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,160
looking at the information available on Zillow.

1365
01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:28,220
So again, those housing price points,

1366
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,780
I think we have to be realistic around

1367
01:54:29,780 --> 01:54:31,220
and be able to peg that to something

1368
01:54:31,220 --> 01:54:32,940
if we don't intend to revisit it,

1369
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,600
would be really important to me.

1370
01:54:36,180 --> 01:54:38,920
Happy to have this study continue to look at it

1371
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,860
to better assess sort of where community is knowing

1372
01:54:41,860 --> 01:54:43,260
that we've got to get to two thirds.

1373
01:54:43,340 --> 01:54:46,780
Any ability to do a survey to understand where folks are

1374
01:54:46,780 --> 01:54:48,960
in that process as we did with measure A, A,

1375
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,860
and look at priorities for community around these questions

1376
01:54:51,860 --> 01:54:53,100
and where the housing will be built,

1377
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,220
where the dollars will be invested,

1378
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:55,780
what community can and can't support,

1379
01:54:56,260 --> 01:54:59,080
I would be supportive of, but that's where I'm sitting at the moment.

1380
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:31,340
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for the presentation, Michael. Just questions in terms of process. I think your slideshays that it would take 40, 60 months to prepare something to go on in November ballot. So, what would be that drop dead line to be able to put something, giving the elections office enough time to, and the county council's office to do its analysis and have it on the ballot with plenty of time to take it to the board.

1381
01:55:32,260 --> 01:55:37,540
great questions supervisor and to answer you honestly is I don't know. We would definitely need

1382
01:55:37,540 --> 01:55:43,820
to work with our election department maybe I can confer over to Sue. I'll take that question

1383
01:55:43,820 --> 01:55:50,580
and similar to what we did with measure AA. The deadline is going to be we have to have something

1384
01:55:50,580 --> 01:55:57,540
in place before the end of June and then that will only give us a couple months to finalize some

1385
01:55:57,540 --> 01:56:01,760
the work which includes work that County Council would be doing behind the scenes.

1386
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:06,760
So in terms of a decision from this board, we need to make sure we have the resolution

1387
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:11,020
in place before they end up doing so we would be bringing this back to you fairly quickly.

1388
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:18,700
When we push, push measure AA forward, the decision was made in May and we fast-tracked

1389
01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:22,680
it and we're able to bring a resolution to your board by doing the same timeline that

1390
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:23,580
we're working with here.

1391
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:24,200
Great.

1392
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:29,860
Thanks for that, because it brings up another issue that we brought up last year, the budget,

1393
01:56:29,860 --> 01:56:37,280
we're having a budget workshop next month, an April. We had talked about a TOT,

1394
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:41,440
tag increasing the TOT. We didn't do it last year, because we went with the sales tax,

1395
01:56:41,500 --> 01:56:47,060
which became measure A. You let us more time to work with stakeholders on that.

1396
01:56:47,540 --> 01:56:52,760
Are we envision bringing that? Because it would be two ballot measures for November.

1397
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,940
We'll have several items for discussion to your board.

1398
01:56:56,180 --> 01:57:00,820
We have the budget workshop at the beginning of April, we're actually finalizing different options

1399
01:57:00,820 --> 01:57:03,540
for your board to consider similar to what we did last year.

1400
01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:09,180
And then if we are directed by the board to pursue that, you would have two measures going

1401
01:57:09,180 --> 01:57:10,340
at the same time.

1402
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:19,820
And then Mr. Bean, going to the polling, your slide also mentioned doing polling to kind

1403
01:57:19,820 --> 01:57:25,760
to engage where voters might be on this, maybe even on a TOT issue, how much would polling cost

1404
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,980
and do we have enough time before June decision?

1405
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,860
At least two gauge where voters are on these issues.

1406
01:57:31,420 --> 01:57:37,560
The reason I bring that up, because I sit on the Monterey Salinas Transit Board, they recently

1407
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:43,740
did polling, I think it was at least over $100,000 if I'm not mistaken, and they were

1408
01:57:43,740 --> 01:57:50,240
agency where voters would be on an extension of measure key, which is only a 1-8 sales tax

1409
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:58,760
extension. They also contemplated an additional 1-8 sales tax increase. They had done

1410
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:06,080
polling in 2024 compared to 26. And the polling because of all the affordability issues,

1411
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:12,760
what voters are feeling, the favorability for that was a little lower this time around than it

1412
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:16,780
as a 2024, which kind of caused the executive director

1413
01:58:16,780 --> 01:58:19,040
to recommend holding off this year on that.

1414
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:24,320
And we're the board pivoted to re-look at that in 2028 instead.

1415
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,340
So that's why some of these issues, it's important to see

1416
01:58:27,340 --> 01:58:28,500
where the voters are.

1417
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:30,620
Obviously, the proposal by some of the violence

1418
01:58:30,620 --> 01:58:33,860
is very different than when it sales tax,

1419
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,900
because knowing where voters will get it,

1420
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:38,220
who's going to pay a TOT tax,

1421
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:42,400
who's going to pay a wealth tax on a luxury home,

1422
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:50,040
It's very different than when a sales tax being paid by your average resident of our county.

1423
01:58:50,500 --> 01:58:58,060
So just because the issue of polling over the cost and when would that have to be done to be useful in making a decision and do it?

1424
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:58,920
Or maybe our CA once out of this.

1425
01:58:58,920 --> 01:58:59,180
Yes.

1426
01:58:59,380 --> 01:59:00,960
I'll take that one as well.

1427
01:59:01,620 --> 01:59:04,060
As you know, with Measure A, we moved fairly quickly.

1428
01:59:04,620 --> 01:59:12,320
We asked the question through polling agency by about mid May and then had about

1429
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:17,860
a week to gather some data very quickly and then brought it to the budget hearings.

1430
01:59:18,020 --> 01:59:21,860
I believe it was right before the budget hearings for discussion, which was at the end of May.

1431
01:59:22,260 --> 01:59:26,240
This actually allows us a little bit more time to do a little bit more of the due diligence.

1432
01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:33,360
And our hope is that if the board asks us to move forward with this, we will return to you

1433
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:39,560
with those agreements for the polling and for some of the educational support that would

1434
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:43,940
compare a little but also give you some of that data that's been requested by board members

1435
01:59:43,940 --> 01:59:49,540
in terms of where the impact would be made and some of these other items that were identified

1436
01:59:49,540 --> 01:59:56,560
by board members. So we are actually, I hate to say is what we're fast tracking even though we do

1437
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,980
For the six weeks, just know we did it on a shorter time frame the last.

1438
02:00:01,260 --> 02:00:06,160
Okay, I'll just be supportive of getting that information coming back and making the most informed decision.

1439
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:14,880
This seems like I think what's instructive is seeing what other counties have done on this and they've had it in place for many years.

1440
02:00:15,700 --> 02:00:26,560
So I would like to get that information before we can find on the decision, but I think all those pieces, including the polling is important for us to make the most informed decision before putting the measure on the November ballot.

1441
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:29,240
Thank you.

1442
02:00:29,740 --> 02:00:31,460
I just want to start by

1443
02:00:33,700 --> 02:00:35,740
thanking the,

1444
02:00:36,060 --> 02:00:36,400
I'm thinking, super,

1445
02:00:36,540 --> 02:00:37,700
the Daniels for bringing this forward.

1446
02:00:38,780 --> 02:00:39,740
It's a problem.

1447
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:41,760
It's an existential crisis.

1448
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:45,380
What we're experiencing in district five in district four,

1449
02:00:45,740 --> 02:00:48,400
where workforce is being,

1450
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,820
that serves district five is being pushed out

1451
02:00:50,820 --> 02:00:53,480
farther and farther away from where jobs are.

1452
02:00:53,780 --> 02:00:54,860
Families that have lived here,

1453
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:57,160
I grew up and went to school with Jennifer,

1454
02:00:57,420 --> 02:00:58,080
who spoke earlier.

1455
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:05,600
And to be able to come back or stay in this community where we're working in really good

1456
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:12,120
jobs, I'm not able to have a chance at making, having secure a stable housing without

1457
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:18,900
the, you know, having someone who's going to, you know, provide that for you is, means

1458
02:01:18,900 --> 02:01:21,980
that we don't have teachers who are willing to stay in this community.

1459
02:01:21,980 --> 02:01:26,880
It means that it's harder and harder to find janitors and firefighters and all of these

1460
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:32,740
essential jobs that we need in order to be a healthy thriving community, I think the stories

1461
02:01:32,740 --> 02:01:39,540
were really, really compelling. And so to all of those who spoke today, thank you for sharing

1462
02:01:39,540 --> 02:01:42,540
your story and sometimes they are very personal.

1463
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:48,720
I think we could go on and on about the reasons

1464
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:58,060
why this is necessary and needed, but I would like to just reiterate support for what's before

1465
02:01:58,060 --> 02:02:03,480
us today to continue with a feasibility study that will allow us to then move forward and

1466
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:10,920
place this on about it for the voters to decide in November. A couple of things that I didn't

1467
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:18,000
see on the notes that I wanted to just mention. There was some discussion about an oversight committee,

1468
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:21,180
So, I think that's generally something that we've done with talks measures.

1469
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:28,220
I'm comfortable with that if that's a direction that allows us to get to 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 2, 3 support.

1470
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:39,880
I also think that the requests that Inbet made in their letter around considering a baseline

1471
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:47,060
that goes down to $5 million with tiered rates starting at that amount would be something

1472
02:02:47,060 --> 02:02:54,780
that would be worth looking at, I think I'm comfortable with the discussion about indexing

1473
02:02:54,780 --> 02:03:01,200
to medium house price. If we're starting at a lower amount of say $5 million, I think that

1474
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:06,960
would be something that would make sense. Of course, I think this was very clear in my reading

1475
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:15,820
that this is residential only, so we would not be including our commercial or agricultural

1476
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:35,760
properties. I think I read something in here somewhere about, you know, some other exemptions that would make sense and allow for families who maybe purchase the home many years ago to be able to keep that home in their family things like that. I think are important and reasonable and

1477
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:44,260
the other thing I would hope that we can add and this would for me fall under potential uses of revenue and page eight,

1478
02:03:44,260 --> 02:03:48,200
acquisition and rehabilitation of at-risk rental housing to preserve long-term affordability.

1479
02:03:49,180 --> 02:03:54,740
And I think that just clarification that that would include things such as land trusts

1480
02:03:54,740 --> 02:03:55,300
or properties.

1481
02:03:55,920 --> 02:04:02,780
We've seen that work incredibly well with CSU Monterey Bay professors who would otherwise

1482
02:04:02,780 --> 02:04:08,800
not be able to own or have stable housing, be able to purchase land trusted properties

1483
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:11,920
with reasonable rates of appreciation,

1484
02:04:12,580 --> 02:04:16,440
but provides stable, safe, stable housing for their families.

1485
02:04:16,860 --> 02:04:18,960
And I think that's really, for me, what we're talking about,

1486
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,660
it's this right that all people should have to

1487
02:04:22,660 --> 02:04:26,840
safe, stable housing, that isn't going to be

1488
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,020
pulled out from underneath you, and I'll just share,

1489
02:04:30,380 --> 02:04:33,500
I personally grew up and lived in 15 different homes

1490
02:04:33,500 --> 02:04:37,840
before I was, I think, 12 years old, and the trauma that comes

1491
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:43,060
with that kind of constantly having to pack everything up and move and early it was because

1492
02:04:43,060 --> 02:04:48,100
of the military, but later it was because in the rental market you don't always have

1493
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:57,060
that security of having your home be available over time and it makes it hard for kids to

1494
02:04:57,060 --> 02:04:59,620
change schools, it makes it hard for families to build roots.

1495
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:14,780
And I just have what I've seen with CSUNB properties that are for sale for our local workforce. It allows for the families to have stability while parents are working here.

1496
02:05:15,940 --> 02:05:28,460
So I couldn't be more supportive. I know how much work you've done to take a lot into the community and to build this, to put together a package that can generally be supported.

1497
02:05:29,540 --> 02:05:38,380
by all those in our community and we have to look at what we're doing differently because what

1498
02:05:38,380 --> 02:05:45,980
we're doing now is not working for families, for retirees, for people who are at the core

1499
02:05:45,980 --> 02:05:58,440
of keeping this community functioning and this is one step of many that I believe need to be

1500
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:05,120
back to Daniels, to make a motion or additional comments, just a couple additional comments.

1501
02:06:05,320 --> 02:06:10,220
I want to thank everybody who made public comment and if you didn't get a chance to see

1502
02:06:10,220 --> 02:06:14,340
the letters, there were some wonderful letters including from Montage Health and from

1503
02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:19,060
P.K. Diffenbau who we did get to hear from the Monarch Peninsula Unified School District.

1504
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:28,420
But in response to some of the comments from my colleagues and from the public, one of

1505
02:06:28,420 --> 02:06:33,580
had lots of meetings and lots of conversations and I'm wearing more of my political hat trying

1506
02:06:33,580 --> 02:06:37,500
to understand how we'll get this across the finish line and how we get this across the

1507
02:06:37,500 --> 02:06:43,240
finish line would be to have everybody on board working with us, not to have specific entities

1508
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:49,540
like, for example, the realtor is working against us. Everybody sees the need and so we're trying

1509
02:06:49,540 --> 02:06:56,180
to frame this in a way that brings everybody along and helps us get this across the finish line.

1510
02:06:56,180 --> 02:07:04,560
And so, know that when we selected $10 million as a threshold, that was strategic, because

1511
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:12,040
we can make a significant amount of revenue and create this fund with that and not upset

1512
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,880
a much larger group of people.

1513
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:23,040
That said, you know, that $10 million is about a thousand percent of the average home price

1514
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:24,120
in Monterey County.

1515
02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:31,480
So yes, if you wanted to index it and not say it's $10 million, but it's $1,000, you know,

1516
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:39,100
then it would move with the actual price of the home in regards to sun setting,

1517
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:45,100
which was brought up, you know, this is intrinsically tied to our housing element,

1518
02:07:45,180 --> 02:07:52,900
rena, goals, and the affirmatively furthering fair housing policy in the housing element.

1519
02:07:52,900 --> 02:07:59,480
So, yes, if there was some research that was able to be done, that said, you know, we just

1520
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:01,660
to digress a little bit.

1521
02:08:01,820 --> 02:08:06,940
The state of California in identifying these numbers, took a look at the population and

1522
02:08:06,940 --> 02:08:12,500
took a look at housing growth and showed the discrepancy and then allocated all the different

1523
02:08:12,500 --> 02:08:15,000
jurisdictions, the numbers that was the discrepancy.

1524
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:19,980
So, we in Monterey County would be in a much stronger place if we met those goals.

1525
02:08:19,980 --> 02:08:40,620
And so, yes, if folks wanted to look at what would the amount be that we would need to generate in revenues to be able to tackle our housing crisis and sunset after that date, I would be fine with that because if we haven't meant it, the voters could also then agree vote to re-up the transfer tax.

1526
02:08:41,420 --> 02:08:50,800
So anyway, those are all things that are open, but I just wanted to articulate that they were well thought out and and strategic in terms of getting us to this place.

1527
02:08:51,400 --> 02:09:08,580
I also want to talk really quick about the need for folks who said that they would have liked to see a lower, to address more problems than just the missing middle that I have recommended.

1528
02:09:08,580 --> 02:09:27,120
we address. And that's of course for development. There's a list of everything that's on page 8 that talks about down payment and first time home by our programs infrastructure improvements to start. If you look at that, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying anything other than a firm or really furthering fair housing, right?

1529
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:34,040
Like we have this obligation and that's what I'd like to tie to the budget to the ballot language if we can.

1530
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:41,780
But I want to give an example for those who suggest that we should focus not just on missing

1531
02:09:41,780 --> 02:09:50,220
middle but on low and low low. In in Pebble Beach we we have the more place town homes and

1532
02:09:50,220 --> 02:09:55,660
they were opened up in 2019 by the Pebble Beach Company and it was a condition of development

1533
02:09:55,660 --> 02:09:59,980
to build employee housing and they use the federal

1534
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:08,320
Lowe Lowe and Moderate. And Lowe Lowe and Moderate, or Lowe Lowe Lowe, you got it. And very low and low income. There were

1535
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:12,900
seven units that were very low. There were seven units that were low income and there were ten units

1536
02:10:12,900 --> 02:10:18,080
that were moderate. They had no problem filling the ten units that were moderate with their workforce,

1537
02:10:18,540 --> 02:10:25,740
but they did struggle to fill the very low and the low income with their employees because their

1538
02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:31,580
employees made too much money, and so in turn they opened it up to college kids, working part

1539
02:10:31,580 --> 02:10:39,540
time and other part time employees. So it's really targeting a specific need in the community

1540
02:10:39,540 --> 02:10:40,960
on the Monterey Peninsula.

1541
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:48,140
And that's not to say that any development that we have in Monterey

1542
02:10:48,140 --> 02:10:53,500
County has, we have an inclusionary housing ordinance. We will continue to build homes at all

1543
02:10:53,500 --> 02:11:01,780
levels with with our inclusionary housing ordinance. So let's see, um, was there anything else

1544
02:11:01,780 --> 02:11:08,640
I wanted to comment on? It is only single family residential homes. I'm not proposing commercial

1545
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:19,360
homes and I'm not proposing agricultural property that is essentially commercial. I do want

1546
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:24,560
say that I've done a lot of research on the studies that suggest that there may be a reduction

1547
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:31,360
in in in in home sales. The studies I have seen refer to commercial properties. And so I

1548
02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:37,040
think we want to be really clear about about what we look into. We're looking to see if we

1549
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:45,780
see any trends in in in growth in home sales, a slowing of home sales based on these trends for

1550
02:11:45,780 --> 02:11:50,840
taxes in single family homes. In other jurisdictions that have been

1551
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:53,280
citing, there's commercial properties, there's apartment buildings,

1552
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:57,620
and so we really want to keep our research to what this measure

1553
02:11:57,620 --> 02:12:03,320
is going to address. And that is single family homes and of the

1554
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:05,820
threshold that I suggested, but I think you should come back with the

1555
02:12:05,820 --> 02:12:09,240
threshold that my colleagues are asking for as well just to see what

1556
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:12,860
it says. So I know everyone's hungry. I'm appreciative of the

1557
02:12:12,860 --> 02:12:25,520
we're moving forward, I will pull up the staff report to be able to be very clear about my motion which is to

1558
02:12:29,460 --> 02:12:38,560
accept the analysis that we received today and this page says provide direction as appropriate.

1559
02:12:39,260 --> 02:12:44,920
Okay, I don't have the staff report in front of me, but what I would like for you to do is to return as soon as possible.

1560
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:54,100
answering the questions that my board colleagues have identified and provide next steps in

1561
02:12:54,100 --> 02:12:59,820
moving us forward toward placing this item on the ballot in November. Thank you.

1562
02:12:59,920 --> 02:13:00,160
Thank you.

1563
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:01,680
Thank you.

1564
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:07,580
And I think on page 12, there's a list of items if we can pull that up on the screen again.

1565
02:13:07,580 --> 02:13:09,660
page 2 or page 12.

1566
02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:19,700
We up. Yep. All right. So just to be clear and then according to Supervisor Daniels,

1567
02:13:20,260 --> 02:13:24,340
the some additional information about the questions that have been raised broadly by the board today.

1568
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:28,560
All right. Let's move forward with all in favor.

1569
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:30,500
Hi. Any opposed?

1570
02:13:31,500 --> 02:13:33,780
All right. All right. You need an enormous support. Thank you.

1571
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:39,900
We will recess for lunch. But before we do that, I wanted to make a note that item number

1572
02:13:40,700 --> 02:13:44,980
Item number 17, which is to conduct an interview of our board

1573
02:13:44,980 --> 02:13:48,680
supervisor's referral matrix, will be postponed till next week.

1574
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:54,060
So when we come back after lunch at 1, let's make this 145,

1575
02:13:54,740 --> 02:13:58,340
I guess we'll do 130, we're going to start with item 18,

1576
02:13:58,620 --> 02:14:00,980
which is our presentation on the most 300 cleanup site.

1577
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:02,940
Back at 130, thank you.

1578
02:14:28,930 --> 02:14:33,730
If we could have our Spanish interpreter announced services again,

1579
02:14:33,730 --> 02:14:35,630
before we get started.

1580
02:14:38,140 --> 02:14:40,040
Diego, are you with us still online?

1581
02:14:45,980 --> 02:14:48,140
How many to switch over from the channel?

1582
02:14:48,980 --> 02:14:52,440
The Spanish Channel to the English Channel to make an announcement for us.

1583
02:14:55,150 --> 02:14:59,290
Good afternoon, my name is Diego Salis and I am the Interpreter of Spanish Lingles

1584
02:15:23,940 --> 02:15:29,980
We're going to start our afternoon agenda. We have item number 18 is to receive a presentation of the

1585
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:34,000
on the Moss 300 site cleanup at the Moss Landing Battery Energy Storage Facility.

1586
02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:39,080
We have a number of different agencies who are with us today and we appreciate all of

1587
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:40,340
the coordination and work.

1588
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:44,500
I just want to say, before we start, I'll say Scanlan, who's our director of emergency

1589
02:15:44,500 --> 02:15:52,120
management, who's really been at the forefront of keeping the county-apprised of cleanup

1590
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:57,360
efforts and response efforts and making sure that we continue to receive updates from all

1591
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:00,840
of the associated partners at the state and federal level.

1592
02:16:01,820 --> 02:16:05,720
The county itself we don't have that direct responsibility, but it has been important for us

1593
02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:10,440
to be able to monitor and hold accountability on this as we move forward.

1594
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:13,980
So, Kelsey, thank you for all of the work that you've done over the past year, and I will

1595
02:16:13,980 --> 02:16:14,960
pass the floor to you.

1596
02:16:15,460 --> 02:16:16,120
Thank you so much.

1597
02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:22,200
Good afternoon, Chairwoman, ask you and members of the Board County Administrative Officer

1598
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:24,780
DeLarosa, County Council and members of the public.

1599
02:16:24,780 --> 02:16:32,280
We are here to provide a status update on the Moss 300 recovery efforts with a focus on health impacts and data assessments.

1600
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:37,460
Before beginning today's update, I want to take a moment to acknowledge the Moss Landing community.

1601
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:46,820
Over the past year, residents, local organizations and regional partners have demonstrated steady resolve and engagement under challenging and unprecedented circumstances.

1602
02:16:47,940 --> 02:16:53,640
That continued participation has played an important role in our efforts and it remains essential as a work move forward.

1603
02:16:53,640 --> 02:16:59,440
Today's agenda reflects a meaningful point in that process, in addition to operational updates

1604
02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:03,400
the board will hear technical assessments from state subject matter experts and perspectives

1605
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:05,060
from community-based groups.

1606
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:10,600
Take in together these presentations provide a more complete picture of ongoing concerns and

1607
02:17:10,600 --> 02:17:11,980
considerations for next steps.

1608
02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:15,780
Since January 2025, the county's goals have been consistent.

1609
02:17:15,780 --> 02:17:26,380
Protect Public Safety and Health, be good stewards of the environment and be transparent in our coordination across all levels of government in the community.

1610
02:17:27,180 --> 02:17:35,920
Before you receive a presentation from the County of Monterey Environmental Health Bureau, I will provide a brief update from the U.S. EPA regarding battery and debris removal progress.

1611
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:41,880
The United States Environmental Protection Agency continues to lead federal oversight of

1612
02:17:41,880 --> 02:17:45,340
battery and debris removal operations at the Mont Slinding site.

1613
02:17:46,460 --> 02:17:47,940
Battery removal work continues.

1614
02:17:48,140 --> 02:17:53,000
Two-thirds of the intact battery modules have been de-energized for recycling so far.

1615
02:17:53,420 --> 02:18:01,540
That is approximately 23,847 out of an estimated 35,772 intact battery modules.

1616
02:18:02,300 --> 02:18:08,640
Approximately 23,232 modules have been de-energized and transported off-site for cycling.

1617
02:18:09,300 --> 02:18:12,040
No flare-ups have occurred during battery removal thus far.

1618
02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:17,240
With the onset of windy or seasonal weather and with the completion of phase 1 building

1619
02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:23,520
stabilization work, Vistra has applied tackifier to the ash foot from the perimeter of the

1620
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:24,140
damper.

1621
02:18:24,540 --> 02:18:28,500
Tackifier is a sticky coating that is used to prevent dust from moving.

1622
02:18:29,180 --> 02:18:36,160
Removal of the intact battery modules for de-energization and recycling is expected to be finished within the next two to three months.

1623
02:18:36,860 --> 02:18:41,980
A new industrial elevator was built for crews to access batteries on the second floor of the building.

1624
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:50,420
Once crews finished de-energizing the accessible intact battery modules, made possible through phase one of the building demolition and stabilization work,

1625
02:18:50,420 --> 02:18:53,400
cruise will begin phase two of building demolition.

1626
02:18:53,940 --> 02:18:59,060
Extraction and disposal of the remaining battery modules and battery debris will begin once the

1627
02:18:59,060 --> 02:19:04,240
second phase of the building demolition starts. U.S. EPA estimates the second phase of demolition

1628
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:09,980
will begin in mid-2026 and will address the heavy heavily burned sections of the building

1629
02:19:09,980 --> 02:19:14,240
down to its foundation and treatment and disposal of the severely burned and damaged batteries

1630
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:19,400
or battery material that cannot be recycled. Excuse me.

1631
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:27,100
Battery Work Associated with Phase 2 demolition is expected to continue into the fall and possibly the winter based on current projections.

1632
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:35,340
Approximately 200,000 gallons of firefighting water used in January 2025, collected by the storm water collection system on site,

1633
02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:40,140
was sampled and recently disposed of at the Clean Harbour's Seaport facility in San Jose, California.

1634
02:19:40,140 --> 02:19:45,980
The water has been stored in a separate tank onsite, and then tested and determined to be

1635
02:19:45,980 --> 02:19:49,100
non-hazardous before being transported for proper disposal.

1636
02:19:51,640 --> 02:19:59,440
U.S. EPA also noted in here that Vistra under U.S. EPA's oversight will be required to

1637
02:19:59,440 --> 02:19:59,700
forms.

1638
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:09,000
Revealing of the fire debris for waste characterization purposes, as part of the selection process of appropriate waste management facilities for final debris disposal.

1639
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:29,220
U.S. EPA expects the fire debris sampling will be performed in mid-2026, when the second phase of building demolition occurs, which will target the east side, which is the side that is severely damaged, and waste characterised waste characterisation debris sampling results will be made publicly available.

1640
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:35,740
And so with that, I will hand it over to Nikki Feller at the Monterey County or from the Monterey

1641
02:20:35,740 --> 02:20:40,720
County Environmental Health Bureau for an update after which there will be a presentation from

1642
02:20:40,720 --> 02:20:46,580
the California Department of Toxic Substances Control and then after which we will allow

1643
02:20:46,580 --> 02:20:54,460
for opportunity of the estuary monitoring of battery emissions and residues aka Ember to provide

1644
02:20:54,460 --> 02:21:01,080
a 10 minute update, and then the never again mass landing group will have a seven minute window

1645
02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:08,300
to also present to the board. Before we begin with the environmental health bureau, is there a

1646
02:21:08,300 --> 02:21:12,760
preference as to whether or not you would prefer questions in between presentations or at the end?

1647
02:21:18,030 --> 02:21:21,470
Well, what's the end? Okay, great. And so with that, Nikki Feller.

1648
02:21:23,170 --> 02:21:24,190
Thank you, Kelsey.

1649
02:21:24,890 --> 02:21:25,550
Great update.

1650
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:27,070
Good afternoon, Board.

1651
02:21:27,950 --> 02:21:29,470
Nikki Fowler with Environmental Health.

1652
02:21:29,850 --> 02:21:33,510
Today, I will briefly summarize the Environmental Health Bureau's role in coordination

1653
02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:36,750
and community sampling following the Moss Landing Battery Fire.

1654
02:21:37,170 --> 02:21:40,850
A focus specifically on what the county did, how we worked with our state partners

1655
02:21:40,850 --> 02:21:42,910
and how data was collected and shared.

1656
02:21:43,630 --> 02:21:46,890
Following this overview, our state partners will provide technical context,

1657
02:21:46,890 --> 02:21:52,610
regarding risk assessment methodology and summarise the findings contained in the preliminary

1658
02:21:52,610 --> 02:21:56,890
PEA report equipment prepared by Vistras Consultant.

1659
02:21:58,410 --> 02:22:02,090
Monary County operates a local hazardous materials program under state law.

1660
02:22:02,450 --> 02:22:06,350
Our routine responsibilities include enforcing hazardous materials and hazardous waste

1661
02:22:06,350 --> 02:22:10,970
regulations, conducting compliance inspections, and overseeing hazardous materials business

1662
02:22:10,970 --> 02:22:11,410
plans.

1663
02:22:12,010 --> 02:22:16,650
These programs exist to prevent releases, reduce environmental risk, and protect public health.

1664
02:22:16,650 --> 02:22:25,650
In the case of the Moss Landing Battery Fire, our role expanded beyond routine oversight and required sustained coordination with state and federal technical agencies.

1665
02:22:27,900 --> 02:22:35,340
When the fire occurred, environmental health supported EOC Emergency Operations Interactivation and focused on immediate public health protection.

1666
02:22:36,420 --> 02:22:42,960
I want to briefly acknowledge our state partners who are joining us virtually today and will be available as presenters and panelists.

1667
02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:49,200
From the Department of Toxic Substances Control, we have Dr. Wei Ying Ying and Dr. Michael Garland,

1668
02:22:49,340 --> 02:22:53,880
both staff toxicologists supporting the risk assessment, from the Regional Water Quality

1669
02:22:53,880 --> 02:22:59,580
Control Board, Mr. Greg Bishop, and Mr. Nick Samarim. We're also joined by Karen Rivellis,

1670
02:22:59,740 --> 02:23:03,300
and Dr. Rima Woods, from the Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment,

1671
02:23:03,880 --> 02:23:07,760
and finally, by Mr. Russ Bartlett, from the California Department of Public Health,

1672
02:23:07,780 --> 02:23:11,420
Environmental Investigations Branch. They'll be available to provide

1673
02:23:11,420 --> 02:23:14,740
technical expertise and respond to questions following the presentations.

1674
02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:22,460
This response has required sustained coordination across multiple state, federal, and regional

1675
02:23:22,460 --> 02:23:22,880
partners.

1676
02:23:23,560 --> 02:23:29,360
I'd like to take a moment, through these multi-agency coordination groups, these agencies work

1677
02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:35,660
together to review environmental data, evaluate sampling plans, and support public health communication.

1678
02:23:36,320 --> 02:23:41,820
The team also evaluated potential exposure pathways, including air, soil, and water, to inform

1679
02:23:41,820 --> 02:23:47,460
response actions. It's important to note that the U.S. EPA has authority over response and

1680
02:23:47,460 --> 02:23:52,700
recovery activities at the battery facility or battery site itself, while our state partners

1681
02:23:52,700 --> 02:23:56,860
have focused on evaluating potential off-site environmental and public health impacts.

1682
02:23:57,780 --> 02:24:01,780
Their technical expertise has been essential to supporting Monterey County and the

1683
02:24:01,780 --> 02:24:02,640
Moss Landing community.

1684
02:24:05,910 --> 02:24:09,430
With this coordination established, County directed Vistra to develop

1685
02:24:09,430 --> 02:24:14,070
and implement a community sampling plan to evaluate potential off-site impacts from the fire.

1686
02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:18,750
Sampling media included soil, surface water, sediment, and pore water.

1687
02:24:19,290 --> 02:24:24,590
Sampling locations were selected based on multiple criteria, including preliminary DTSC

1688
02:24:24,590 --> 02:24:29,610
sampling, reports of visible ashore debris, proximity to sensitive receptors such as schools

1689
02:24:29,610 --> 02:24:34,270
and parks, and areas representative of elevated community surface wipe results.

1690
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:38,990
State partners reviewed the work plans for completeness, and field activities were witnessed

1691
02:24:38,990 --> 02:24:43,010
by county and DTSC staff to ensure conformance with the approved plan.

1692
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:52,190
Phase I, soil sampling was designed to be sufficiently comprehensive to support development of the human health risk assessment.

1693
02:24:52,990 --> 02:24:59,090
Phase II sampling expanded into surface water, sediment, and pore water to support the ecological risk assessment component.

1694
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:22,400
Iwate Potential Migration Pathways. Phase 1 soil sampling was conducted between May 8th and June 20th of last year. At 27 locations, resulting in 108 samples, phase 2 sampling occurred in September of last year. Results from both phases were shared with state partners for technical review, and the reports have been made publicly available.

1695
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:28,240
Throughout this process, the county served as an information hub.

1696
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:33,700
We compiled and shared quality-assured, quality-controlled supported sampling data with state partners

1697
02:25:33,700 --> 02:25:39,220
through the multi-agency coordination group for technical review and supported evaluation of

1698
02:25:39,220 --> 02:25:44,780
sampling plans and reports. Agency reviewed results were posted publicly on the incident website,

1699
02:25:45,440 --> 02:25:49,980
where available we also included state agency analysis alongside published results.

1700
02:25:51,740 --> 02:25:57,260
County also worked to develop a GIS dashboard to visualize sampling locations and detections

1701
02:25:57,260 --> 02:26:01,880
relative screening levels to enhance transparency for decision makers and the community.

1702
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:09,360
Throughout the response, the multi-agency coordination group welcomes supporting data from

1703
02:26:09,360 --> 02:26:14,980
a variety of sources, including academic research, non-governmental organizations, community

1704
02:26:14,980 --> 02:26:16,560
groups, and citizen scientists.

1705
02:26:17,380 --> 02:26:21,720
These types of screening data can be very helpful in identifying areas that may warrant additional

1706
02:26:21,720 --> 02:26:24,840
investigation and can form the selection of sampling locations.

1707
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:32,040
examples include surface-wipe samples or field XRF screening. However, for the purposes of

1708
02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:38,080
developing a formal human health or ecological risk assessment, the analysis must rely on samples collected

1709
02:26:38,080 --> 02:26:43,620
and analyzed under established laboratory QAQC quality shared quality controlled protocols.

1710
02:26:44,480 --> 02:26:48,340
We appreciate the efforts of the community and academic partners who contributed information

1711
02:26:48,340 --> 02:26:49,860
to help inform this response.

1712
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:57,680
I'd also like to take the opportunity to note that the

1713
02:26:57,680 --> 02:27:02,400
Number study data was not shared with the county prior to its public release in November

1714
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:03,180
of 25.

1715
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:11,200
Therefore, since it wasn't available, it wasn't available during development of the community

1716
02:27:11,200 --> 02:27:11,960
sampling plan.

1717
02:27:12,460 --> 02:27:17,380
However, following its publication at the end of last year, we did share the share the study

1718
02:27:17,380 --> 02:27:23,860
with state agency partners and in accordance with county direction, Vister's consultant

1719
02:27:23,860 --> 02:27:30,780
has acknowledged and referenced the study within the P.E.A. report equivalent for completeness

1720
02:27:30,780 --> 02:27:35,720
consistent with incorporating publicly available information. And as you've heard, the

1721
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:39,240
Amber team will have an opportunity to present their findings a little bit later in the agenda.

1722
02:27:42,880 --> 02:27:47,240
A preliminary environmental assessment equivalent report was prepared by Vistras Consultant

1723
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:54,660
based on the department of toxic substances controls 2015 P.E.A. guidance manual. The report

1724
02:27:54,660 --> 02:28:03,560
Compliance or Compiles rather scientifically valid sampling data related to the fire and includes both human health and ecological risk assessments.

1725
02:28:04,340 --> 02:28:14,040
A draft of the PEA equivalent was received from the consultant on February 27th, just three weeks ago, and shared with state partners on March 2nd for completeness review.

1726
02:28:14,940 --> 02:28:19,200
The PEA Equivalent Report is currently undergoing agency review.

1727
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:23,800
State agencies typically provide written comments within two to three weeks.

1728
02:28:24,260 --> 02:28:28,080
The consultant then clarifies the report to address those comments, which can take

1729
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:29,120
another few weeks.

1730
02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:34,200
Additional iterations may occur until DTSC determines the report is complete.

1731
02:28:34,880 --> 02:28:40,960
Once finalized, the county will publish the report on the incident website on readymonarycounty.gov.

1732
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:56,140
So at this time, I will turn the presentation over to Mr. Wei Ying Ying of DTSC to provide a brief overview of risk assessment methodology and summarize the draft findings in the PEA report.

1733
02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:18,240
OK, Wei Ying, please unmute yourself and take it away.

1734
02:29:19,880 --> 02:29:34,220
Thank you, Nicky. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Wei Yingjiao and I am a toxicologist from DTSC. I'm also a certified toxicologist by the American board of toxicology.

1735
02:29:35,060 --> 02:29:46,080
It is my pleasure to have this opportunity and give you a brief introduction about the work we did at the Monterey County and share with you about our considerations.

1736
02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:53,460
I also trait this as a chance to hear your feedbacks to better support the community and my

1737
02:29:53,460 --> 02:29:59,780
mission as a state scientist in DTSC. I will cover the topic on Human House.

1738
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:06,360
A colleague, Dr. Garland, will cover ecological risk assessment. Next slide please.

1739
02:30:07,360 --> 02:30:17,000
After the fire incident, the state formed an interagency work group that combines expert going back.

1740
02:30:17,020 --> 02:30:20,820
Thank you. That combines expertise from different state departments.

1741
02:30:20,820 --> 02:30:49,240
At DGSC and specifically for me, the goal is to review the documents such as sampling plan and available data to determine if the environmental media, specifically soil and water, contain chemicals potentially released from the fire and at a level that may cause health concerns to off-site residents in particular children from chronic exposure.

1742
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:56,040
I understand that there is concern of existing health symptoms and whether they are related

1743
02:30:56,040 --> 02:31:02,780
to acute exposures, shortly or even during the fire, but this risk assessment and the

1744
02:31:02,780 --> 02:31:08,860
collective soil and water sampling are more from a prospective angle, meaning they were

1745
02:31:08,860 --> 02:31:14,520
collected several months after the fire, so they are used to help evaluate clinical

1746
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:21,340
residues remaining in the environment and whether the levels may cause any health risks even

1747
02:31:21,340 --> 02:31:26,700
after long-term exposures for one year or longer from now on.

1748
02:31:27,020 --> 02:31:31,460
Besides soil and water, air is also monitored to assess potential

1749
02:31:31,460 --> 02:31:37,320
equation risks, which is supported by other state agencies. Next slide.

1750
02:31:42,060 --> 02:31:46,360
People talking about how we assess risks for the site. I want to give you a brief

1751
02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:51,900
introduction about what is risk and the general risk assessment process.

1752
02:31:52,320 --> 02:31:55,760
Risk is the combination of hazards and exposure.

1753
02:31:56,720 --> 02:32:02,120
Using the figure here as an illustration, a shark is considered as a hazard,

1754
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:07,640
while someone swimming in the same area of ocean is considered as an exposure.

1755
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:13,120
The more sharks there are, the longer this person swims in the ocean,

1756
02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:17,720
He has a higher risk, more likely, to be attacked by a shark.

1757
02:32:18,620 --> 02:32:25,440
So, to sum up, risk occurs when both hadards and exposure happening at the same time,

1758
02:32:25,720 --> 02:32:28,000
and it is a measure of likelihood,

1759
02:32:28,740 --> 02:32:33,000
how likely you may be attacked it, not clinical diagnosis,

1760
02:32:33,660 --> 02:32:37,000
whether you're existing bleeding is from a shark attack.

1761
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:44,780
correspondingly, the risk assessment process is to quantify both Heather and exposure and then

1762
02:32:44,780 --> 02:32:49,540
combine the information to characterize risk. Next slide.

1763
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:55,620
Heather identification is the first step

1764
02:32:55,620 --> 02:33:03,340
of risk assessment. It identifies chemicals with potential health concern using the previous analogy.

1765
02:33:03,340 --> 02:33:06,720
It tells whether it is a sharp or a clonfish.

1766
02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:13,400
At DTSC, we consider different health effects to identify hazards of chemicals,

1767
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:16,840
including both cancer and non-cancer effects.

1768
02:33:17,780 --> 02:33:24,380
This table here gives you some examples for chemicals that might be released from the fire.

1769
02:33:24,980 --> 02:33:30,840
Some of them, such as dioxins, may cause both cancer and non-cancer health effects.

1770
02:33:30,840 --> 02:33:38,660
While from other, some others such as Lissim, we only have scientific evidence for non-cancer

1771
02:33:38,660 --> 02:33:39,580
policy facts.

1772
02:33:40,260 --> 02:33:41,120
Next slide, please.

1773
02:33:44,180 --> 02:33:47,080
Those response assessments is the second step.

1774
02:33:47,780 --> 02:33:54,780
It is often conducted in the lab and uses lab animals to assess the possibility and severity

1775
02:33:54,780 --> 02:34:02,500
of House-effect in response to different exposure levels, using the previous analogy and a

1776
02:34:02,500 --> 02:34:10,940
shock is more likely to cause harm than a baby shock. And those response assessment is to find out

1777
02:34:10,940 --> 02:34:18,380
severity of the hazard and change of that severity over change of exposure. While using the

1778
02:34:18,380 --> 02:34:26,200
lab data to evaluate different health effects for a chemical, at DTSC we consider the most sensitive

1779
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:33,540
health effects, and the most sensitive human subpopulations to assure protectiveness,

1780
02:34:34,340 --> 02:34:39,720
to facilitate this process and streamline with assessments at different times.

1781
02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:45,950
DTSC and US EPA have summarized existing databases and published

1782
02:34:47,030 --> 02:34:54,820
cancer and lung cancer toxicity values for over 800 chemicals, which are available in DTSC

1783
02:34:54,820 --> 02:34:58,300
HHR8 Note 10. The Note 10 is a living thought.

1784
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,200
Or ask to keep it updated on a timely basis. Next slide.

1785
02:35:07,720 --> 02:35:09,500
So now you understand the hazard.

1786
02:35:10,120 --> 02:35:22,740
The third step is exposure assessment, which is to measure or estimate how much are open and how long a person may be in contact with hazard.

1787
02:35:22,740 --> 02:35:28,000
At DTSC, we consider all three possible exposure routes.

1788
02:35:28,780 --> 02:35:32,100
Inculation, thermal contact, and injection.

1789
02:35:33,060 --> 02:35:33,600
Next slide.

1790
02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:41,380
The figure here illustrates the conceptual fight model for the fight.

1791
02:35:42,220 --> 02:35:45,240
For chemicals, potentially released from the fire

1792
02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:48,140
and migrated to the surrounding areas,

1793
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:50,780
a person can get exposure through

1794
02:35:50,780 --> 02:35:57,280
in correlation such as breathing air containing the suspended soil particles, thermal contact,

1795
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:04,180
such as touching surfaces with chemical deposition, or oral injection such as putting 30

1796
02:36:04,180 --> 02:36:06,700
hands in mouth. Next,

1797
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:13,380
this fire incidents could impact different people,

1798
02:36:14,380 --> 02:36:22,400
residents, workers, visitors, etc. To assure protectiveness of all humans, potentially near the

1799
02:36:22,400 --> 02:36:39,260
We used child residents as the default exposure receptor to FS health risks because children are expected to have greater longer exposure and are in general more susceptible to chemicals.

1800
02:36:39,260 --> 02:36:47,260
In addition, we also employ different exposure assumptions to assure protectiveness.

1801
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:54,520
For instance, we consider that exposure has started early in life such as from the third

1802
02:36:54,520 --> 02:36:58,540
trimester of pregnancy when a human is more vulnerable.

1803
02:36:59,180 --> 02:37:08,540
And we also assumed residential exposure for 24 hours per day, seven days per week for a total of 26 years.

1804
02:37:08,540 --> 02:37:10,000
Next, please,

1805
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:20,100
the fourth and the last step summarizes collective toxicity and exposure information

1806
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:26,660
to characterize the risk, which is then used to inform risk management decisions, including

1807
02:37:26,660 --> 02:37:33,040
weather, there is potentially any health concern if we should refine the process by collecting

1808
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:40,780
more samples or if we should advise a risk manager whether there is likely immediate or substantial

1809
02:37:40,780 --> 02:37:47,480
risk that requires quick actions. After this brief overview, I have two technical messages

1810
02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:55,680
for you. One is that risk assessment is purely a sign-space process. It is supposed to provide

1811
02:37:55,680 --> 02:38:02,900
the risk managers' health protective values that they can consider together with other factors,

1812
02:38:03,380 --> 02:38:10,640
such as technical challenges to make decisions. Second, risk assessment is often conducted

1813
02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:18,300
using a tiered approach by starting with the most health protective assumptions. By doing so,

1814
02:38:18,700 --> 02:38:25,420
we are hoping to provide a more streamlined process, minimize the likelihood of underestimating the

1815
02:38:25,420 --> 02:38:33,500
meeting critical timeline and saving money and resources. At the DTSC, we are dedicated for this

1816
02:38:33,500 --> 02:38:40,620
mission and have developed plenty of information and resources for this purpose. We applied both

1817
02:38:40,620 --> 02:38:46,980
of these two principles when supporting the Monterey County for this fire incident. Next.

1818
02:38:50,530 --> 02:38:51,670
One example is

1819
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:58,510
use of the risk-based screening levels that we developed and published at the HHHRA-803.

1820
02:38:58,890 --> 02:39:04,590
Publication of these values gave everyone the same access to review our conclusions.

1821
02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:12,850
The conservative assumptions deriving those conclusions and then you can provide comments and feedbacks.

1822
02:39:12,850 --> 02:39:19,570
For this site, we use our more health protective exposure scenario, the residents to assess

1823
02:39:19,570 --> 02:39:21,290
the sample soil and water.

1824
02:39:22,230 --> 02:39:27,530
We know that no one is drinking water from the applesauve, but we use this approach to

1825
02:39:27,530 --> 02:39:29,090
assure protective deaths.

1826
02:39:30,090 --> 02:39:34,030
We also consider both cancer and lung cancer healthy facts.

1827
02:39:35,390 --> 02:39:41,950
There are also additional screening levels available at federal level from US EPA, but for

1828
02:39:41,950 --> 02:39:51,690
The same compound when both federal and state values are available, the California values are used as they are more stringent than the federal ones.

1829
02:39:52,370 --> 02:39:52,990
Next, please.

1830
02:39:57,000 --> 02:39:58,180
The fire incident's property.

1831
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:10,860
Arial for a site which also has historical operations. In addition, some of the chemicals of concern, such as metals, are also naturally occurring.

1832
02:40:11,660 --> 02:40:27,960
To address this uncertainties and data gaps, we did not rely on just one piece of evidence, but used a multiple line of evidence approach and considered available information, holistically to support our risk assessment.

1833
02:40:27,960 --> 02:40:40,160
This data are listed here, including AirModel, AirModel in Reveals, from USPPA, distance of a sample location to the file,

1834
02:40:40,700 --> 02:40:48,140
collocated samples and co-occurrence of chemicals, and parallel analysis of the same samples by two different laboratories.

1835
02:40:49,760 --> 02:40:50,400
Next, please,

1836
02:40:53,660 --> 02:40:59,240
here I am showing you one example, how we use data as a whole.

1837
02:40:59,240 --> 02:41:10,820
Among all the fanhood locations, at one location, SB-090, we found Cobalt and Magnus concentrations

1838
02:41:10,820 --> 02:41:14,500
about our residential swing level.

1839
02:41:14,780 --> 02:41:15,620
Click with

1840
02:41:19,360 --> 02:41:26,940
Cobalt at 25, which is about our swinging level of 23mg per kilogram.

1841
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:36,720
Manganese was measured at 2700 milligram per kilogram, which is about the 1800 screen level.

1842
02:41:37,540 --> 02:41:42,840
To be noted, exceeding those screening levels does not mean there is risk.

1843
02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:49,500
It only means that it alerts us that closer examinations of the values are needed.

1844
02:41:49,500 --> 02:41:59,700
Those screening levels are based on a proven staying exactly at that location 24 hours a day and 7 days a week.

1845
02:42:00,520 --> 02:42:08,540
This exceedance was not seen in duplicate measurements, was not seen in the collocated sample.

1846
02:42:08,540 --> 02:42:15,900
The exceeding values are the same order of magnitude as our conservative swing level,

1847
02:42:16,920 --> 02:42:22,380
and considering those conservative assumptions used to derive those swing levels.

1848
02:42:23,200 --> 02:42:29,360
We concluded that this level is not expected to cause human health risks to residents.

1849
02:42:29,360 --> 02:42:30,560
Next,

1850
02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:42,120
another request we got from the county is for our opinions of the lab data from the consultants.

1851
02:42:43,020 --> 02:42:49,060
At a few locations, the consultants collect the soft samples, split the samples into two portions.

1852
02:42:49,940 --> 02:42:57,480
One portion is sent to the lab selected by the consultants, and the other half is sent to a county selected lab.

1853
02:42:57,480 --> 02:43:05,220
The specific question is whether the analytical data between the two labs generated comparable

1854
02:43:05,220 --> 02:43:12,220
results. We did a suite of statistical analysis to support this request. All this analysis

1855
02:43:12,220 --> 02:43:19,000
had been shared with the country, and we also used publicly available tools to make sure the

1856
02:43:19,000 --> 02:43:26,480
same results can be reproduced. The figure here are one of the tests we did, which plotted data

1857
02:43:26,480 --> 02:43:31,200
from the two labs to see whether they correlate with each other.

1858
02:43:32,080 --> 02:43:38,440
The dash line here represents a one-to-one line, meaning the concentration from the two labs

1859
02:43:38,440 --> 02:43:46,940
are exactly the same. The red lines here represent the actual correlation lines for the target

1860
02:43:46,940 --> 02:43:56,460
metals. What I want to show you here is that the two lines are close to each other, meaning the

1861
02:43:56,460 --> 02:43:58,100
Next,

1862
02:44:02,280 --> 02:44:11,880
one additional thing we supported the county together with our sister agency OEHA is to develop the air action level for maintenance.

1863
02:44:12,940 --> 02:44:22,940
This is supposed to be 24 hour readings of maintenance in air and help the county take necessary actions when seeing accidents.

1864
02:44:22,940 --> 02:44:34,340
The figure here listed the initial selected action level of 0.5 microgram of manganese per cubic meter of air,

1865
02:44:35,080 --> 02:44:39,260
together with a few published toxicity criteria values.

1866
02:44:40,320 --> 02:44:45,260
As you can see in this comparison ruler here, the selected action level,

1867
02:44:45,260 --> 02:44:48,880
their point five is comparable to those published

1868
02:44:48,880 --> 02:44:53,800
organic activity thresholds. We selected this chronic value

1869
02:44:53,800 --> 02:44:57,500
to compare with 24 hour measurements because

1870
02:44:57,500 --> 02:44:58,300
acute thresholds.

1871
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,560
Higher than chronic threshold, so we use this lower value to assure health protectiveness.

1872
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:15,360
Also, this is our initial selection. After collecting more monitoring data, we will have more information

1873
02:45:15,360 --> 02:45:22,900
about the manganese level in air, especially background levels in this area, which will help us further

1874
02:45:22,900 --> 02:45:26,380
evaluate our recommendations. Next,

1875
02:45:29,020 --> 02:45:34,640
so a summary of my presentation, we evaluated the sampling data collected

1876
02:45:34,640 --> 02:45:40,580
by the consultants and concur with the conclusion that human health risks are not expected

1877
02:45:40,580 --> 02:45:48,320
from chronic exposure to the sample soil and surface water, and the risks were assessed based on

1878
02:45:48,320 --> 02:45:55,940
conservative toxicity and exposure of functions. Now I will pass a stage to my colleague, Dr.

1879
02:45:56,020 --> 02:46:00,280
Garland, who will give you a presentation on ecological risk assessment.

1880
02:46:13,420 --> 02:46:19,600
Thank you, Dr. Jane. I'm Michael Garland. I'm also a toxicologist in DTSC's human ecological

1881
02:46:19,600 --> 02:46:25,560
risk office. I'm in the ecological risk assessment unit and today we'll be talking about the

1882
02:46:25,560 --> 02:46:28,400
virtual risk assessment portion of the PE report.

1883
02:46:28,700 --> 02:46:29,380
Next slide, please.

1884
02:46:31,560 --> 02:46:33,960
So I just want to start with an overview of the

1885
02:46:33,960 --> 02:46:35,000
moss-linding area.

1886
02:46:35,520 --> 02:46:37,440
You can see the moss-linding power plant

1887
02:46:37,440 --> 02:46:42,100
for an LPP outlined in a yellow circle here.

1888
02:46:42,540 --> 02:46:46,180
And we're centered over the mouth of the ocoron slew.

1889
02:46:47,540 --> 02:46:51,980
And the slew is a very dynamic habitat.

1890
02:46:52,500 --> 02:46:58,640
As a slew, there's a lot of shallow marshy areas being by the coast is influenced by the

1891
02:46:58,640 --> 02:47:04,000
tides, and by the same token is an estuary being influenced by the mixing of both fresh

1892
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:05,100
water and salt water.

1893
02:47:05,800 --> 02:47:12,280
And so when you have these interfacing environmental factors that are interacting, you get really

1894
02:47:12,280 --> 02:47:18,440
dynamic environments, you get a lot of diverse habitat, including species that are highly adapted,

1895
02:47:18,440 --> 02:47:24,260
Some species are pretty robust to environmental stress, and these cases sometimes they're pretty sensitive.

1896
02:47:25,240 --> 02:47:27,880
This is a very important conservation at research area.

1897
02:47:27,980 --> 02:47:36,840
There is state and federal areas for conservation of this place, and it's a very unique area in California, and we want to make sure it's protected.

1898
02:47:38,600 --> 02:47:47,920
And along the similar lines, looking at the complexity of this lens itself to a complex factors and it comes to ecological risk assessment.

1899
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:49,460
Next slide, please.

1900
02:47:51,910 --> 02:47:53,350
So what is ecological risk assessment?

1901
02:47:53,830 --> 02:47:55,610
It is essentially a process that allows us

1902
02:47:55,610 --> 02:47:58,090
to evaluate the likelihood of adverse effects

1903
02:47:58,090 --> 02:48:01,130
to biological communities due to a hazardous chemical release.

1904
02:48:01,850 --> 02:48:04,050
As Dr. Jean said, this is a science-based

1905
02:48:04,050 --> 02:48:06,850
and step-wise process that follows federal and state guidance.

1906
02:48:07,690 --> 02:48:09,690
That means we like to be data driven

1907
02:48:09,690 --> 02:48:11,710
and we like to do things sequentially

1908
02:48:11,710 --> 02:48:14,510
to minimize the chance that something is overlooked.

1909
02:48:15,550 --> 02:48:18,370
This process assesses the potential long-term

1910
02:48:18,370 --> 02:48:21,690
adverse effects, and terrestrial and aquatic environments.

1911
02:48:22,790 --> 02:48:29,990
And the reason be or interested in the long-term effects is because this process ultimately is going to inform if a

1912
02:48:29,990 --> 02:48:34,630
site cleanup or other type of remediation is needed and of so to what extent.

1913
02:48:35,390 --> 02:48:36,310
Next slide, please.

1914
02:48:39,230 --> 02:48:42,730
So my role as an ecological risk assessor is to conduct

1915
02:48:42,730 --> 02:48:48,550
technical reviews and provide input on biological resource or wildlife concerns that potential

1916
02:48:48,550 --> 02:48:54,210
hazardous release sites. Much of my work centers around reviewing work plans and reports

1917
02:48:54,210 --> 02:48:58,850
prepared by responsible parties, or their consultants, I ensure that federal and state

1918
02:48:58,850 --> 02:49:03,250
standards are met for data quality and risk assessment requirements, and I help risk

1919
02:49:03,250 --> 02:49:08,090
managers make informed decisions regarding potential need for cleanup. Next slide please.

1920
02:49:11,430 --> 02:49:14,710
And so today I'm going to be talking about the preliminary endangerment assessment

1921
02:49:14,710 --> 02:49:22,690
equivalent report, which I'll just refer to as GA report, and so in our overall remedial process

1922
02:49:22,690 --> 02:49:29,050
for cleanup, the PE represents the very first step for determining further investigation is needed,

1923
02:49:29,310 --> 02:49:33,750
and if there's been a release of a hazardous substance, that could potentially present

1924
02:49:35,410 --> 02:49:41,350
an unacceptable risk to human health for the environment. So the PE report was prepared by

1925
02:49:41,350 --> 02:49:46,890
interface on behalf of Vistra, and included an ecological screening level evaluation.

1926
02:49:47,410 --> 02:49:51,770
This is equivalent to what we would call a screening level ecological risk assessment.

1927
02:49:53,310 --> 02:49:58,230
This evaluation was based on phase one sampling, which was terrestrial upwind.

1928
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:16,540
And phase 2 sampling, which is from the quadratic march habitat. Phase 2 sampling was where I primarily provided my input on the work plans, whereas phase 1 was primarily intended for human health, but was also considered for ecological screening as well.

1929
02:50:16,540 --> 02:50:22,260
So in case you're wondering why we call it a P.A. Fowlwind, that is essentially because

1930
02:50:22,260 --> 02:50:28,440
terrifies calls the report something else, or our guidance is very general and needs

1931
02:50:28,440 --> 02:50:33,560
to be able to address many different sites that we investigate, and this is a pretty unique

1932
02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:43,640
site. And so as long as we have terrifies the equivalent standards of our P.A. guidance,

1933
02:50:43,640 --> 02:50:46,460
then that's fine to do that.

1934
02:50:46,980 --> 02:50:48,400
So it's just called APA equipment.

1935
02:50:49,020 --> 02:50:49,920
Next slide, please.

1936
02:50:54,380 --> 02:50:56,840
And so the PEA report is in draft status.

1937
02:50:57,060 --> 02:50:59,780
And what that means, it's still under regulatory review.

1938
02:51:00,400 --> 02:51:04,100
And results in conclusions may change depending on the regulatory feedback and

1939
02:51:04,100 --> 02:51:06,040
revisions that take place.

1940
02:51:06,900 --> 02:51:08,700
And so I'm going to provide in this presentation.

1941
02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:11,440
Is the background information leading up to the report.

1942
02:51:11,900 --> 02:51:15,220
And I'm going to provide an overview of the risk assessment that's presented

1943
02:51:15,220 --> 02:51:19,220
and reports first draft as a currently stance. Next slide, please.

1944
02:51:22,770 --> 02:51:24,710
So the reason why we felt

1945
02:51:24,710 --> 02:51:29,250
as necessary conduct in ecological risk assessment was based on observations that indicated

1946
02:51:29,250 --> 02:51:35,970
potential impact of the battery fire. First, there is some modeling of the plume from the fire,

1947
02:51:36,110 --> 02:51:40,030
which indicated that there could be some chemical deposition into habitat areas.

1948
02:51:44,570 --> 02:51:47,670
The Monterey

1949
02:51:47,670 --> 02:51:54,070
And as I understand it, this is based on the visual observation of decreased numbers of aquatic insects.

1950
02:51:55,050 --> 02:52:02,790
And additionally, the California Department of Fish and Wildlife had reported potential fire debris following the fire at Hester Marsh.

1951
02:52:04,350 --> 02:52:04,970
Next slide, please.

1952
02:52:07,330 --> 02:52:15,230
So I want to talk a bit more about the potential fire debris that Fish and Wildlife had seen because this generates an interest into whether Hester Marsh,

1953
02:52:15,230 --> 02:52:20,670
conservation and restoration area was potentially impacted by the fire. So

1954
02:52:20,670 --> 02:52:26,190
Fish and Wildlife staff noted that they estimated there were hundreds of these debris

1955
02:52:26,190 --> 02:52:31,490
fragments that the observant or water areas in January and February that year of the fire.

1956
02:52:32,310 --> 02:52:37,190
They were about six inches in diameter. They were these char flaky objects.

1957
02:52:38,170 --> 02:52:42,750
They're origin and composition remains unknown to the vis-à-vis knowledge.

1958
02:52:42,750 --> 02:52:45,930
These pieces were not collected or analyzed in the lab.

1959
02:52:47,310 --> 02:52:48,270
So, so they can potentially,

1960
02:52:48,750 --> 02:52:50,150
these could be from the battery fire,

1961
02:52:50,310 --> 02:52:54,470
but ultimately I can't see 100% for sure that these are.

1962
02:52:55,710 --> 02:52:57,270
But since they could be from the fire,

1963
02:52:57,490 --> 02:52:59,770
we're still interested in whether these had an impact

1964
02:52:59,770 --> 02:53:00,550
on the environment.

1965
02:53:01,470 --> 02:53:05,130
And I will note that TerraFaze and their follow-up visits

1966
02:53:05,130 --> 02:53:07,470
for field reconnaissance did not observe

1967
02:53:07,470 --> 02:53:08,990
of these fragments in the field.

1968
02:53:08,990 --> 02:53:14,690
and CDFW had presumed that these fragments were dissolved during rainfall.

1969
02:53:15,790 --> 02:53:16,710
Next slide please.

1970
02:53:19,860 --> 02:53:22,800
So I just want to provide an overview of the timeline.

1971
02:53:23,140 --> 02:53:30,300
The events that I just discussed happened within the first couple months of the year shortly after the battery fire.

1972
02:53:30,900 --> 02:53:37,420
Phase one and phase two sampling occurred during the middle to a third quarter of a year.

1973
02:53:37,420 --> 02:53:41,420
And the months in between, there is a series of brainstorms.

1974
02:53:42,580 --> 02:53:46,460
This potentially impacted the dissolution of potential contaminants

1975
02:53:46,460 --> 02:53:53,400
and the transport of any debris or contaminants in the stormwater runoff.

1976
02:53:54,140 --> 02:53:59,980
And so the phase one and phase two sampling are just kind of snapshots in time

1977
02:53:59,980 --> 02:54:03,720
of when those samples took place. They don't tell us if there was previous contamination.

1978
02:54:05,500 --> 02:54:10,920
But by the same time, this is telling us whether there's any long-term residual contamination

1979
02:54:10,920 --> 02:54:19,560
in these areas if there was a transport of these chemicals away or a dissolution of them.

1980
02:54:19,920 --> 02:54:20,380
Next slide, please.

1981
02:54:24,520 --> 02:54:28,400
So I'm just going to provide a brief overview on this slide of the process that was done

1982
02:54:28,400 --> 02:54:30,380
for the ecological screening level evaluation.

1983
02:54:31,000 --> 02:54:35,860
I'll get into more details on these and the subsequent slides, but what I want to point

1984
02:54:35,860 --> 02:54:42,260
is that the first element risk assessment parameters and the second element sample collection,

1985
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:48,660
the majority of this was done during the sampling and work plans and reports.

1986
02:54:49,680 --> 02:54:56,320
The risk characterization is really what the PEA brings. It integrates all the information

1987
02:54:56,320 --> 02:54:59,780
from the Sampling events and additional content.

1988
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:08,720
Text of the site. And this is used to screen for risk and interpret the data. And so, this is our opportunity

1989
02:55:08,720 --> 02:55:18,820
as regulators to review all this information more holistically, make sure that it all makes sense and that follows our process

1990
02:55:18,820 --> 02:55:23,200
according to state and federal guidance. Next slide, please.

1991
02:55:25,980 --> 02:55:28,920
So this is the hazard identification part of our

1992
02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:35,640
defining of risk assessment parameters, the chemicals of interest. So we were interested in

1993
02:55:35,640 --> 02:55:43,320
metals. These are the same metals that were discussed by Dr. J. J. They are metals that are components

1994
02:55:43,320 --> 02:55:48,480
of the batteries that were the head combusted in the fire.

1995
02:55:50,540 --> 02:55:52,620
And we additionally considered polycyclic

1996
02:55:52,620 --> 02:55:59,080
aromatic hydrocarbons or pHs and dioxins and theorems. These two chemical classes are

1997
02:55:59,080 --> 02:56:04,290
combustion products. They're formed when organic material catches on fire.

1998
02:56:06,340 --> 02:56:11,180
But what else is notable about these chemical classes is that they are found in the environment

1999
02:56:11,180 --> 02:56:18,420
at a background level. So when taking samples of environmental areas, there's going to be

2000
02:56:18,420 --> 02:56:22,440
some noise. And so we want to be able to find a signal in that noise.

2001
02:56:22,460 --> 02:56:27,920
A signal that indicates any kind of ability to attribute contamination to the battery

2002
02:56:27,920 --> 02:56:32,880
fire. And so we look for a chemical fingerprint of these chemicals if interested if

2003
02:56:32,880 --> 02:56:37,820
they're elevated and that levels that could potentially cause adverse effects in wildlife.

2004
02:56:38,560 --> 02:56:44,300
Then that's some evidence that this is a tributal to the battery fire. Next slide, please.

2005
02:56:46,190 --> 02:56:51,850
So, next time I'm going to talk about the habitat and exposure media that we considered for this risk assessment.

2006
02:56:52,970 --> 02:57:01,990
So, the phase one sampling, this is done in upland terrestrial habitat and this lip primarily at soil, the first top three inches of soil,

2007
02:57:02,710 --> 02:57:11,870
and the phase two sampling, which I was primarily involved in reviewing, involved surface water sampling, sediment sampling, and pore water.

2008
02:57:12,610 --> 02:57:25,010
Pour water is the water that's trapped between sediment grains, and this is really a supplement to the sediment sampling sediment has an ability to really bind metals.

2009
02:57:25,210 --> 02:57:29,850
And if you analyze it in the lab, it'll tell you how much metal is in the sediment.

2010
02:57:29,990 --> 02:57:37,050
But I won't tell you how much of that metal is bioavailable, how much can dissolve and get absorbed by wildlife that ingest it.

2011
02:57:37,050 --> 02:57:42,190
And so, the pore water can give us an idea of how much metal in a sediment can dissolve,

2012
02:57:42,550 --> 02:57:43,850
can be taken up by wildlife.

2013
02:57:44,230 --> 02:57:47,930
It's really more of a supplemental to screening sediment.

2014
02:57:49,290 --> 02:57:49,710
Next slide, please.

2015
02:57:53,620 --> 02:57:57,180
So next, I'm going to talk about the selection of ecological screening levels.

2016
02:57:58,060 --> 02:57:58,780
It's regulators.

2017
02:57:58,920 --> 02:58:04,640
We want to see a hierarchy of sources that are prioritized by quality and availability

2018
02:58:05,540 --> 02:58:06,540
for the chemicals.

2019
02:58:07,580 --> 02:58:12,800
each sampled medium, so soil, surface water, and sediment, there's a going to have their

2020
02:58:12,800 --> 02:58:14,020
own screening values.

2021
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:19,600
And the selection of e-screening values need to be conservative.

2022
02:58:19,900 --> 02:58:26,140
So we're looking for a pretty stringent screening values. We assume that the most sensitive

2023
02:58:26,140 --> 02:58:31,320
representative wildlife species is evaluated. Remember I previously said that this is habitat

2024
02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:37,320
where you have some pretty resilient species, and you have sensitive ones. So to do this screen,

2025
02:58:37,560 --> 02:58:41,840
if we can try to make sure we're protecting the most sensitive wildlife species,

2026
02:58:42,640 --> 02:58:46,620
it's more likely that more species overall are going to be protected it.

2027
02:58:47,580 --> 02:58:51,080
So these screens rely on conservative exposure assumptions. Next slide, please.

2028
02:58:55,020 --> 02:58:59,460
So there are a lot of considerations when Teraphase went to sample in the field.

2029
02:58:59,460 --> 02:59:02,840
As I previously said, this is a really dynamic environment.

2030
02:59:02,840 --> 02:59:04,380
You have title action.

2031
02:59:05,000 --> 02:59:08,900
I talked a little bit about sediment chemistry, which can be complicated in these

2032
02:59:08,900 --> 02:59:09,840
marshy areas.

2033
02:59:10,220 --> 02:59:14,060
There's often elevated amounts of metals and other chemicals.

2034
02:59:14,800 --> 02:59:20,060
There's natural background variation that can impact what you actually find when you go

2035
02:59:20,060 --> 02:59:24,360
on the sample, whether it is contamination from the battery fire or not.

2036
02:59:24,360 --> 02:59:37,120
There are the weather impacts, debris may have been visible from move around by rain, stormwater runoff would be expected to flow from areas that are higher, to areas that are lower.

2037
02:59:37,760 --> 02:59:47,040
And so this would influence where tariff phase did their sampling to try to find locations that are most likely going to have residual contamination.

2038
02:59:48,500 --> 02:59:55,080
And finally, in addition to potential contamination from the battery fire, there are a lot

2039
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,800
Motion, they can come from the watershed and flow down into the basin of El Korn's slew. There is atmospheric

2040
03:00:06,800 --> 03:00:14,260
deposition. Tempacles can come from a short distance, such as from traffic. There's even long distance,

2041
03:00:15,120 --> 03:00:19,300
potential for deposition. This is even from different continents. There's a lot of different ways,

2042
03:00:19,600 --> 03:00:23,980
chemicals can end up in an environment. And of course, there's human activities.

2043
03:00:26,080 --> 03:00:28,100
The areas of the face to

2044
03:00:28,100 --> 03:00:33,380
sampling. These were not owned by Vistra. They did not have control over whether there were

2045
03:00:33,380 --> 03:00:39,040
people there, what activities took place. Maybe people were trespassing. We don't know if

2046
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:43,380
they were, there were bonfires that could impact whether we observe combustion products.

2047
03:00:43,640 --> 03:00:48,300
So there's a lot of uncertainty. And again, I just want to highlight that we're looking for that chemical

2048
03:00:48,300 --> 03:00:53,840
fingerprint that can really guide us to see if any contamination is attributable to that fire.

2049
03:00:53,840 --> 03:00:55,300
next slide please.

2050
03:00:58,920 --> 03:01:03,640
So here's a map again, a velcroon slew. The ruin area is the

2051
03:01:03,640 --> 03:01:11,160
visceral property. The purple magenta outline is the, where the plume of smoke was

2052
03:01:11,160 --> 03:01:17,800
modeled to have deposited chemicals potentially. And the green squares are the areas

2053
03:01:17,800 --> 03:01:23,440
that were sampled and the phase two sampling event. And so three areas of

2054
03:01:23,440 --> 03:01:28,920
Mr. Marsh, where California Department of Professional Wildlife had observed the potential

2055
03:01:28,920 --> 03:01:36,280
fire debris, those areas were sampled by terrifies, terrifies sampled at the M.A.O.A. or

2056
03:01:36,280 --> 03:01:44,720
the mosquito district observation area, due to that potential decline in aquatic insect life.

2057
03:01:45,160 --> 03:01:50,520
And there was an additional property that was sampled in North of Mosleinian power plant

2058
03:01:50,520 --> 03:02:01,580
And this is within that model deposition plume and that was to get an idea of whether or not chemicals from that plume had settled in habitat areas north of the power plant.

2059
03:02:01,900 --> 03:02:02,960
Next slide please.

2060
03:02:06,420 --> 03:02:18,440
And so here's some images from the phase two sampling that took place in September of last year on the left is this sediment sampling on the right is surface water sampling.

2061
03:02:18,440 --> 03:02:24,900
So the three or four samples were collected at each location, I believe it was four samples

2062
03:02:24,900 --> 03:02:30,660
of both sediment and surface water were collected at each Hester Marsh area, I believe three

2063
03:02:30,660 --> 03:02:36,100
samples were collected at the ski to observation area, and the site north of the most

2064
03:02:36,100 --> 03:02:42,300
finding power plant, one sample of sediment and surface water was collected, and these samples

2065
03:02:42,300 --> 03:02:45,740
were analyzed from metals, pHs, and the dioxins, and pherants.

2066
03:02:46,260 --> 03:02:47,140
Next slide, please.

2067
03:02:49,470 --> 03:02:56,190
And so, terriface also sampled pore water, they were successful in sampling at

2068
03:02:56,190 --> 03:03:00,890
Hester areas one and two, and the samples were analyzed from metals.

2069
03:03:01,410 --> 03:03:05,810
The other pore water collections at the other sampling areas were unsuccessful, and this

2070
03:03:05,810 --> 03:03:11,230
is because that the sediment was not very permeable if you can imagine in that part

2071
03:03:11,230 --> 03:03:12,530
to and you have the sediment brains.

2072
03:03:12,690 --> 03:03:16,630
If these are really tiny, there's not going to be a ton of pore water there, you're going

2073
03:03:16,630 --> 03:03:23,350
be more likely to get some clogging of the probe screens you can see on the figure on the

2074
03:03:23,350 --> 03:03:23,710
right.

2075
03:03:24,110 --> 03:03:30,150
I was a picture from the field showing how this clay sediment was clogging their steel probe

2076
03:03:30,150 --> 03:03:32,350
that they used in sample for pore water.

2077
03:03:32,890 --> 03:03:36,750
It made multiple, multiple attempts, but they were unable to do so.

2078
03:03:37,130 --> 03:03:41,530
But we did get pore water for analysis and history areas wanted to.

2079
03:03:42,370 --> 03:03:43,270
Next slide, please.

2080
03:03:45,320 --> 03:03:48,000
So, how are the sampling data used?

2081
03:03:48,960 --> 03:03:51,020
So, in a screening level risk assessment,

2082
03:03:51,520 --> 03:03:53,040
the highest sample concentration

2083
03:03:53,040 --> 03:03:57,020
is compared to its respective screening level in each medium.

2084
03:03:57,780 --> 03:04:00,820
If that sample concentration exceeded the screening level,

2085
03:04:01,040 --> 03:04:03,320
it indicates the potential of a ecological risk.

2086
03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:06,300
It does not mean that potential risk is unacceptable

2087
03:04:06,300 --> 03:04:10,040
or related to the battery fire that requires further assessment

2088
03:04:10,040 --> 03:04:12,840
that's going to be done through a line of evidence evaluation

2089
03:04:12,840 --> 03:04:17,340
such as the comparison to regional background values or that can be some additional risk

2090
03:04:17,340 --> 03:04:22,400
refinements that represent a more realistic exposure scenario rather than just a

2091
03:04:22,400 --> 03:04:26,860
seeing that an organism stems all of its time, the most contaminated spot, maybe

2092
03:04:26,860 --> 03:04:32,280
assume that it wanders an area that takes more of an average concentration of consideration.

2093
03:04:32,640 --> 03:04:36,880
And so there's a time to refinements that can be made if there's an exceedance.

2094
03:04:37,460 --> 03:04:38,280
Next slide, please.

2095
03:04:41,000 --> 03:04:47,720
So, luckily, in the draft report, the screening evaluation results are pretty simple for me to present here.

2096
03:04:48,260 --> 03:04:55,220
They found Nicol and the mosquito observation area in sediment was exceeding its screening level by three times.

2097
03:04:56,000 --> 03:04:59,740
And so, this is where that further evaluation lines of evidence.

2098
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:07,420
Assessment comes in. They compare this concentration to the regional background and found that it was within regional background.

2099
03:05:08,800 --> 03:05:14,720
And so that indicated that this is not likely contamination or from the battery fire.

2100
03:05:15,640 --> 03:05:20,580
They also did not find any chemicals exceeding their screening levels in any of the other evaluated media.

2101
03:05:20,580 --> 03:05:28,580
and so what this means is that there doesn't appear to be any widespread contamination from the

2102
03:05:28,580 --> 03:05:32,460
battery-fire in these areas that were sampled. Next slide please.

2103
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:36,980
So the conclusions of the

2104
03:05:36,980 --> 03:05:42,980
draft report which again or under our review indicate that the data do not potentially do not

2105
03:05:42,980 --> 03:05:48,500
show any potentially unacceptable risk to the environment and no further ecological risk assessment is needed.

2106
03:05:48,500 --> 03:05:55,380
And looking at those, of course, it's good news to see a report that says there is no potentially an acceptable risk.

2107
03:05:56,360 --> 03:06:03,480
But it's important that we make sure that this risk assessment is done right and we diligently review this.

2108
03:06:04,080 --> 03:06:08,440
So it is possible the results conclusions may change pending regulatory review.

2109
03:06:09,940 --> 03:06:16,120
And I won't be able to render a final opinion on this inclusion until that process is completed.

2110
03:06:16,740 --> 03:06:21,340
And I know the community is looking for answers on this, as soon as they can get them.

2111
03:06:21,480 --> 03:06:26,220
We appreciate your patience and we're working diligently to get this reviewed.

2112
03:06:27,020 --> 03:06:29,620
And I appreciate your time and I conclude my presentation.

2113
03:06:29,940 --> 03:06:30,880
Thank you.

2114
03:06:38,840 --> 03:06:39,680
Thank you so much.

2115
03:06:40,060 --> 03:06:43,140
And so without we're going to have two additional presentations.

2116
03:06:43,380 --> 03:06:48,340
The first is from the Estuary Monitoring of Battery Emissions and Residues.

2117
03:06:48,340 --> 03:06:54,940
Also known as Ember, and Dr. Kirsten Wassen, a research coordinator at the Elcorn's

2118
03:06:54,940 --> 03:07:01,660
Blue National Estuary Research Reserve and Professor of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at

2119
03:07:01,660 --> 03:07:06,060
UCSC and she is our first presenter. Kirsten? Excuse me, Dr. Wassen.

2120
03:07:10,410 --> 03:07:12,190
Oh, um, you might need to pass through the

2121
03:07:17,860 --> 03:07:17,860
microphone.

2122
03:07:18,020 --> 03:07:21,860
Maybe, Dr. the microphone. If we could have, I'm tech team, turn the microphone on.

2123
03:07:21,900 --> 03:07:25,140
Do I have control here? Oh, I have control. Let's try that again.

2124
03:07:25,140 --> 03:07:28,000
I'm in control. Try that test.

2125
03:07:28,120 --> 03:07:30,280
Fantastic. Okay. Very good. Thanks.

2126
03:07:31,500 --> 03:07:32,780
Okay. Next slide, please.

2127
03:07:33,760 --> 03:07:40,060
So this presentation is on behalf of Ember, which is the cute nickname we came up with

2128
03:07:40,060 --> 03:07:44,300
for scientists from the Elkorn-Slow Reserve Foundation,

2129
03:07:44,480 --> 03:07:47,300
Moss Landing Relabs, Marine Pollution Studies Lab,

2130
03:07:47,440 --> 03:07:52,340
Bonnery Bay Aquarium, and the Ammootsan Land Trust. Next slide.

2131
03:07:52,340 --> 03:07:58,920
I'm going to tell you the key message of this talk right at the front and then return to it at the end.

2132
03:07:59,180 --> 03:08:06,980
To detect ecological impacts of this battery fire appropriate sampling is and was essential.

2133
03:08:07,620 --> 03:08:13,640
This includes sampling soil surfaces immediately after the fire to detect the ash layer.

2134
03:08:13,900 --> 03:08:22,060
This means sampling with high spatial coverage and sampling diverse organisms for a long time to track bio accumulation.

2135
03:08:22,340 --> 03:08:33,620
Next slide. So we're broken into teams. The sediment and geospatial team focused on metals on the soil surface. Next slide.

2136
03:08:34,380 --> 03:08:51,260
And this team is headed up by Dr. Ivano Ayelo. Next slide. In November of last year, we published our findings in scientific reports and article that's in the 99th percentile of viewed articles in this journal.

2137
03:08:52,340 --> 03:09:09,380
While the paper was only published in November as of February 2025, we have been sharing all of our data publicly on a public repository where they were downloaded more than 100 times, so they've been available to the county and others since February.

2138
03:09:09,380 --> 03:09:11,320
Next slide.

2139
03:09:12,780 --> 03:09:19,580
We were able to make robust, before versus after fire comparisons, because at the Elecorn

2140
03:09:19,580 --> 03:09:26,560
SLU reserve, we are a hub for monitoring and at our Hestermarge Restoration site, we used

2141
03:09:26,560 --> 03:09:31,600
the handheld X-ray fluorescence analyzer just to know what the swells were like at our

2142
03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:37,720
Restoration site in 2023, that ended up being really useful, because then immediately after

2143
03:09:37,720 --> 03:09:44,060
fire we could go to these same spots and resample them with the same instrument. Next slide.

2144
03:09:45,720 --> 03:09:51,200
I note about this fire debris that was mentioned. That is not our focus. The data in our paper

2145
03:09:51,200 --> 03:09:57,400
actually ignored these debris because they were so concentrated the data are from the soil surface.

2146
03:09:57,400 --> 03:09:59,820
But yes, we found hundreds of people.

2147
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:16,700
Through CDFW. And when we held our instrument over them, they were pure cathode battery metals. Those samples, we collected the GPS units, put them in plastic bags in a freezer where they are available for anyone to analyze and we have made that clear too.

2148
03:10:16,960 --> 03:10:17,720
Next slide.

2149
03:10:18,960 --> 03:10:25,620
But what I want to tell you about is not those pieces of debris, but rather the surface of the soils at Hester Marsh.

2150
03:10:25,620 --> 03:10:32,980
With our instrument, we were able to detect an ash layer that was very thin, but very concentrated.

2151
03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:37,120
The fallout layer from the plume of the battery fire.

2152
03:10:37,580 --> 03:10:45,020
For example, maximum nickel concentrations were 10 times the baseline in the first two weeks after the fire.

2153
03:10:45,840 --> 03:10:53,880
In contrast, if you take an EPA 1-inch course sample, you get more than 10 times dilution factor from that.

2154
03:10:53,880 --> 03:10:57,900
So with these new catastrophes, we may need different methods.

2155
03:10:58,800 --> 03:10:59,460
Next slide.

2156
03:11:02,260 --> 03:11:07,600
So this fallout layer was a very patchy and very short-lived phenomenon.

2157
03:11:08,080 --> 03:11:11,820
What this graph shows on the y-axis are nickel concentrations.

2158
03:11:12,480 --> 03:11:14,280
On the x-axis is time.

2159
03:11:14,760 --> 03:11:17,800
You can see the red bar, even if you're in the back of the room,

2160
03:11:18,140 --> 03:11:20,220
that shows when the battery fire occurred.

2161
03:11:20,480 --> 03:11:23,500
And the first sample data to the left of that

2162
03:11:23,500 --> 03:11:26,820
our collections at the restoration site before the fire.

2163
03:11:27,360 --> 03:11:31,020
Then within days after the fire, when we were out there again,

2164
03:11:31,300 --> 03:11:34,260
you can see that the magnitude of those nickel concentrations

2165
03:11:34,260 --> 03:11:37,800
increased enormously, but was hugely variable.

2166
03:11:37,960 --> 03:11:40,480
Some values were low, some were extremely high.

2167
03:11:40,520 --> 03:11:42,000
It was a patchy layer.

2168
03:11:42,840 --> 03:11:45,260
A week later, that would still the case.

2169
03:11:45,500 --> 03:11:48,140
But then, we started having heavy rains that are shown

2170
03:11:48,140 --> 03:11:52,240
with a dotted blue line that's cumulative precipitation.

2171
03:11:52,240 --> 03:11:55,820
And you can see that the levels started dropping pretty quickly.

2172
03:11:57,040 --> 03:11:57,720
Next slide.

2173
03:11:59,220 --> 03:12:03,340
So taking a few deep cores are not well suited

2174
03:12:03,340 --> 03:12:07,540
to detecting a thin patchy layer of battery metals

2175
03:12:07,540 --> 03:12:08,740
on the soil surface.

2176
03:12:09,200 --> 03:12:11,740
And the cores collected that you just heard about

2177
03:12:11,740 --> 03:12:14,320
that were taken in September by terriface

2178
03:12:14,320 --> 03:12:18,180
were taken far too late to detect this fallout layer.

2179
03:12:18,180 --> 03:12:21,780
And Ember has put in writing a lengthy revolt

2180
03:12:21,780 --> 03:12:25,000
to numerous aspects of that terriface report.

2181
03:12:26,460 --> 03:12:26,840
Next slide.

2182
03:12:28,540 --> 03:12:31,740
So the surface layer of metals

2183
03:12:31,740 --> 03:12:34,840
was clearly from a battery source.

2184
03:12:35,560 --> 03:12:38,860
What this graph shows is nickel on the y-axis

2185
03:12:38,860 --> 03:12:40,860
and cobalt on the x-axis.

2186
03:12:41,460 --> 03:12:43,680
The orange points are the samples taken

2187
03:12:43,680 --> 03:12:45,580
in the first week after the fire.

2188
03:12:45,580 --> 03:12:53,880
They are in a two to one ratio exactly the ratio in which nickel to cobalt are found in battery cathodes.

2189
03:12:54,320 --> 03:12:59,780
The points in blue were the ones we collected in 2023. You can see they're not correlated.

2190
03:13:00,540 --> 03:13:04,420
You've got high nickel in one place. I cobalt in another and they're way lower.

2191
03:13:05,220 --> 03:13:11,000
So this is a really clear smoking gun of battery metal deposition on our wetland.

2192
03:13:12,420 --> 03:13:13,120
Next slide.

2193
03:13:13,120 --> 03:13:21,720
The structure of the metals on the soil surface was manganese cobalt a nickel aggregated

2194
03:13:21,720 --> 03:13:22,200
together.

2195
03:13:22,920 --> 03:13:23,360
Next slide.

2196
03:13:24,300 --> 03:13:30,640
Very much resembling if you Google purchasing lithium ion cathode material, that is what

2197
03:13:30,640 --> 03:13:31,260
you find.

2198
03:13:32,720 --> 03:13:33,360
Next slide.

2199
03:13:34,980 --> 03:13:40,940
So to summarize the geospatial portion, we found highly concentrated metals on

2200
03:13:40,940 --> 03:13:48,960
corn slew marshes in a thin patchy fallout layer. We have indication of a battery source with

2201
03:13:48,960 --> 03:13:56,440
a proportions of metals and a particle morphology matching batteries, but this was rapidly redistributed.

2202
03:13:57,040 --> 03:14:03,200
Rain and tides quickly reduced these surface concentrations as the metals from the fallout layer

2203
03:14:03,200 --> 03:14:09,640
were redistributed downstream in the asteroid system. They did not disappear. Next slide.

2204
03:14:10,940 --> 03:14:12,880
which brings us to our biode team.

2205
03:14:13,700 --> 03:14:19,660
So, the biode team's purpose is to track potential bioaccumulation of those metals in the

2206
03:14:19,660 --> 03:14:27,940
estuary. Next slide. We are scientists from Maslanding Relabs, myself at the reserve, and the

2207
03:14:27,940 --> 03:14:34,980
Amamutes and Native stewards tribal members committed to taking care of their ancestral lands. Next slide.

2208
03:14:36,100 --> 03:14:42,640
Together, we collected target species of plants, algae, mollusks, crustaceans, and fish,

2209
03:14:43,760 --> 03:14:46,700
and these are the tribal members doing dissections in the labs.

2210
03:14:47,420 --> 03:14:48,040
Next slide.

2211
03:14:49,280 --> 03:14:55,000
We were able to rapidly mobilize after the fire, because we'd been planning a tribal reserve

2212
03:14:55,000 --> 03:14:58,120
monitoring event within a week of the fire, and we'd just switch to-

2213
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:14,160
To sample when we realized no one else was doing so. Next slide. And we continue to sample each of those little diamond shaped marks are sampling periods in the subsequent year, where we collected those organisms.

2214
03:15:15,200 --> 03:15:26,700
Just to give you a flavor of the kind of data we've generated, I'm going to show you some examples from two sites from the first three months from two taxonomic groups. Next slide.

2215
03:15:26,700 --> 03:15:46,180
So here, for example, are the three battery metals shown, the concentrations shown for the first three months for the Bay muscle, next slide, and we have data for other mollusks, next slide, as well as crustaceans, next slide.

2216
03:15:47,020 --> 03:15:54,020
In February and in March, we found a highly significant correlation between nickel and

2217
03:15:54,020 --> 03:15:56,940
cobalt in those organisms we were sampling.

2218
03:15:57,700 --> 03:16:02,780
This is consistent with a common shared source that could be the battery metals or it could

2219
03:16:02,780 --> 03:16:03,820
be something else.

2220
03:16:04,580 --> 03:16:05,040
Next.

2221
03:16:06,220 --> 03:16:13,800
To put this in temporal context for muscles and only for muscles, we have good baseline data for

2222
03:16:13,800 --> 03:16:19,780
medical concentrations as a part of the muscle watch program earlier years, decades of data

2223
03:16:19,780 --> 03:16:25,060
are shown in green and are values from the first three months after the fire are shown in

2224
03:16:25,060 --> 03:16:30,440
blue so they fall within the range that has been observed in the estuary over the past decades.

2225
03:16:32,260 --> 03:16:38,300
Next slide. So to summarize for Biota, the results from those first three months show correlated,

2226
03:16:38,300 --> 03:16:44,740
nickel and cobalt concentrations in slew animals, which may suggest a battery metal source.

2227
03:16:45,600 --> 03:16:49,760
The metal concentrations in muscles are within the range of what's been measured from

2228
03:16:49,760 --> 03:16:56,100
elk run slew in the past, but no conclusions about ecological impacts of the battery fire should be drawn

2229
03:16:56,100 --> 03:17:02,140
from these initial data because bioaccumulation can be a slow process and we must analyze data

2230
03:17:02,140 --> 03:17:08,140
from many species, sites, and dates to understand potential impacts. We're advocating a more

2231
03:17:08,140 --> 03:17:11,800
conservative mindset here. Next slide.

2232
03:17:13,840 --> 03:17:17,760
So to summarize what I have told you, battery

2233
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:24,840
metals were deposited in adjacent L-Corn-Sliu wetlands as a thin patchy concentrated

2234
03:17:24,840 --> 03:17:32,560
layer that dispersed within weeks. Washington stream may be partly blowing away. Thus,

2235
03:17:32,560 --> 03:17:41,940
sampling with deep cores or little spatial coverage or in later months cannot detect the contamination that occurred.

2236
03:17:43,360 --> 03:17:49,640
Secondly, bioaccumulation can occur slowly and unevenly across species and sites.

2237
03:17:50,400 --> 03:17:56,060
So until many dates, sites, and species have been analyzed, conclusions cannot be drawn.

2238
03:17:56,060 --> 03:18:04,400
claims of the absence of ecological impacts are premature at best and misleading at worst.

2239
03:18:05,880 --> 03:18:15,360
Supervisors, I hope these data and perspectives assist you and the county staff in the evaluation of the battery fire impacts.

2240
03:18:15,580 --> 03:18:16,820
Thank you.

2241
03:18:18,630 --> 03:18:20,010
Thank you, Dr. Watson.

2242
03:18:20,710 --> 03:18:21,870
Next, we will

2243
03:18:24,690 --> 03:18:31,690
have Ed Mitchell, the lead investigator for the Nevergen Moss Landing, representative

2244
03:18:31,690 --> 03:18:36,150
to the podium to present for an amount not to see seven minutes.

2245
03:18:36,630 --> 03:18:37,710
Thank you, Mr. Mitchell.

2246
03:18:39,050 --> 03:18:42,190
The NAML presentation is about delusion of truth.

2247
03:18:42,750 --> 03:18:45,690
How the EPA, DTSC and CPU have failed us.

2248
03:18:45,950 --> 03:18:47,710
And we're talking about not just at the site.

2249
03:18:47,790 --> 03:18:52,810
We're talking about during the fire, what were people getting a dose with, for example,

2250
03:18:52,810 --> 03:19:00,650
The DTSC or Menvard did not come to the prundail area when you could see the cloud on the ground.

2251
03:19:01,170 --> 03:19:05,130
Furthermore, the winds took the things pollution downrange.

2252
03:19:05,490 --> 03:19:09,530
For over a year, this community has lived in the shadow of the largest battery fire in history.

2253
03:19:09,950 --> 03:19:17,330
We've seen 10,000 tons of nickel manganese cobalt and other pollutants flowing in the plume over our schools,

2254
03:19:17,330 --> 03:19:18,630
foreign business homes.

2255
03:19:19,090 --> 03:19:24,650
Since that fire DTA, CNEPA, have told you the environment is safe, because their data points

2256
03:19:24,650 --> 03:19:27,010
fall below general health thresholds.

2257
03:19:27,010 --> 03:19:30,210
But a measurement is only as good as a method used.

2258
03:19:30,710 --> 03:19:34,270
Plus, if you don't want to find something and you don't look for it, you won't find

2259
03:19:34,270 --> 03:19:35,130
it.

2260
03:19:38,000 --> 03:19:42,980
So, we are here to prove that the testing will help to then campaign a mathematical, mathematical

2261
03:19:42,980 --> 03:19:47,120
delusion and avoidance designed to protect corporate liability rather than public health.

2262
03:19:47,120 --> 03:19:52,720
We've done that by cross-reversing their flood reports with hard-science data from Dr. Ayelo,

2263
03:19:52,900 --> 03:19:57,840
the blue shirt, Justice League, Dr. Smith, and we, some UCSC, and our own scientifically

2264
03:19:57,840 --> 03:19:58,320
validate.

2265
03:20:02,540 --> 03:20:15,180
Example 1. The 3-inch lie, DTSC and EPA conducted sampling by digging or through terror phase. Digging 3 inches into the ground. On paper looks thorough and reality is the shell game.

2266
03:20:15,340 --> 03:20:31,880
Established chemical and atmospheric sign tells us when an aerosol plume settles at deposits, a micro layer of ash, just as you see in a moment ago. This toxic dust is in a way from .012 micrograms or meaning parts per billion and it settles on the top of the soil.

2267
03:20:31,880 --> 03:20:34,240
Well, servers no deeper than 5 millimeters.

2268
03:20:34,720 --> 03:20:38,220
By sampling three inches deep, the EPT and DTSC

2269
03:20:38,220 --> 03:20:40,940
mixed the thin toxic layer with over two and a half inches

2270
03:20:40,940 --> 03:20:42,700
of clean pre-existing earth.

2271
03:20:42,900 --> 03:20:45,100
The significant, that's significantly diluted

2272
03:20:45,100 --> 03:20:46,260
the fire signature.

2273
03:20:46,480 --> 03:20:50,140
Dr. ILO's research retardative talk, top surface layer,

2274
03:20:50,520 --> 03:20:53,620
found heavy metal concentrations 100 to 1,000 times higher

2275
03:20:53,620 --> 03:20:56,100
than the EPA and DTSC results.

2276
03:20:56,880 --> 03:21:00,540
Namal scientific data testing data matches ILO's.

2277
03:21:00,540 --> 03:21:07,760
and EPA and DTS Investor consultants tell you that the levels do not endanger our community.

2278
03:21:08,140 --> 03:21:12,000
They are ignoring the concentrated poisons sitting on the very services where our children

2279
03:21:12,000 --> 03:21:13,960
play and our crops grow.

2280
03:21:14,020 --> 03:21:19,920
Example two, during the first 48 hours of the fire in January 16, 2025, when the plume was

2281
03:21:19,920 --> 03:21:25,060
at its most concentration, the EPA's automatic modern equipment failed, surprise, surprise.

2282
03:21:26,120 --> 03:21:31,160
And they did not provide a good data even when they were working because they replaced

2283
03:21:31,160 --> 03:21:34,160
the distances that favored the plant, not the people.

2284
03:21:34,720 --> 03:21:41,920
Example 3, the EPA looked for, quote, general particulates at 2.5 parts per million and

2285
03:21:41,920 --> 03:21:42,220
above.

2286
03:21:42,600 --> 03:21:48,320
They didn't look for the aerosols emanating from the fire nor for the NMC signature found in

2287
03:21:48,320 --> 03:21:49,160
the battery fire.

2288
03:21:49,760 --> 03:21:54,940
Private testing conducted by NAML, in coordination with biomexin environmental ink, found

2289
03:21:54,940 --> 03:21:59,320
extraordinary high levels of vaporized nickel manganese and cobalt on the exterior dex

2290
03:21:59,320 --> 03:22:03,080
petties and walkways of the homes miles away from the fire.

2291
03:22:04,540 --> 03:22:10,580
This does not come from the quote legacy PG&E operations as claimed by teraphase.

2292
03:22:10,680 --> 03:22:15,420
It matches the chemical profile of visters burning batteries and mirrored Dr. Ielo's

2293
03:22:15,420 --> 03:22:21,980
data in the ratios of metals. Stuff went down range. The EPA's failure test for these metals

2294
03:22:21,980 --> 03:22:24,820
in the immediate aftermath was not an oversight.

2295
03:22:24,960 --> 03:22:26,760
It was a choice to remain blind.

2296
03:22:27,280 --> 03:22:29,420
If NAMOL had not tested you and the public

2297
03:22:29,420 --> 03:22:33,180
was still be replying, relying upon the misrepresentation,

2298
03:22:33,720 --> 03:22:36,440
that the government instruments had not detected measurable levels

2299
03:22:36,440 --> 03:22:40,380
of harmful pollutants, supervisors.

2300
03:22:40,540 --> 03:22:42,960
Please recognize the foxes are guarding the henhouse.

2301
03:22:43,400 --> 03:22:46,120
The EPA cleanup plan relies almost exclusively

2302
03:22:46,120 --> 03:22:48,480
on data provided by vistas to consultants.

2303
03:22:48,880 --> 03:22:50,400
They're paid to work for vista.

2304
03:22:50,400 --> 03:22:57,620
Temp, Terrapays, and CTEH. As we have documented in our Citizen Commission proposal that we sent to you,

2305
03:22:58,040 --> 03:23:01,460
Terrapays has a history in Philadelphia and Southern California of using,

2306
03:23:01,460 --> 03:23:06,720
quote, reclassifications to minimize monitoring. Meanwhile, CTEH is a firm,

2307
03:23:06,820 --> 03:23:11,960
often nicknamed, by environmental lawyers, as check the evidence hidden.

2308
03:23:12,520 --> 03:23:18,280
Because of their history, a finding no risk and major disaster sites, example four.

2309
03:23:18,280 --> 03:23:22,520
Neither the EPA nor DTSC tested for dioxin inference.

2310
03:23:23,080 --> 03:23:27,440
When you burn massive amounts of plastic casing, electrolytes, and wiring, you create

2311
03:23:27,440 --> 03:23:30,000
some of the most carcinogenic substances known to man.

2312
03:23:30,320 --> 03:23:35,380
Working with the Blusher Justice League, we have found alarming increases in our region, dioxin

2313
03:23:35,380 --> 03:23:36,980
inference and secondary chemicals.

2314
03:23:37,580 --> 03:23:41,960
Unfortunately, and deliberately, the government agencies did not test it for dioxin levels.

2315
03:23:43,480 --> 03:23:49,240
Because if they find it in the 700-foot-long black fire residue pile or outside their

2316
03:23:49,240 --> 03:23:52,160
property, then the cleanup becomes a billion dollar liability.

2317
03:23:53,000 --> 03:23:57,960
They aren't seeking answers, they're seeking an exit strategy, example five.

2318
03:23:58,100 --> 03:24:03,940
California PUC is responsible for safe utility operation and investigating the root cause

2319
03:24:03,940 --> 03:24:06,700
of the fire and why the suppression system failed.

2320
03:24:07,180 --> 03:24:10,720
However, they have not released information about what caused the fire?

2321
03:24:11,260 --> 03:24:17,200
Where was the ignition source? Where was the ignition location? And what was the timeline for

2322
03:24:17,200 --> 03:24:22,540
and flow of the thermal runaway from Rack to Rack in the building?

2323
03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:26,800
Sorry to interrupt. I just want to make sure we've got the slides following along with you.

2324
03:24:27,320 --> 03:24:29,420
I'm going to clear for on the correct slide.

2325
03:24:29,420 --> 03:24:32,100
No, don't worry about it. Just go back to number one.

2326
03:24:32,540 --> 03:24:34,020
Okay, so to make sure we're on the slide. Okay.

2327
03:24:34,280 --> 03:24:36,720
I'm fine. She and I are working fine.

2328
03:24:37,760 --> 03:24:45,520
Example, so the PUC hasn't supplied any of that data to you or to the public.

2329
03:24:45,840 --> 03:24:51,000
So while federal and CDC's avoid looking for deadly pollutants and except dilution measurements

2330
03:24:51,000 --> 03:24:56,060
by visters, quote, experts, your constituents and neighbors are suffering with recurring

2331
03:24:56,060 --> 03:24:58,660
nose bleeds, alternate tates, migraine skin.

2332
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:08,500
That your county's own health survey showed. Therefore, after 15 months, a misinformation and an avoidance

2333
03:25:08,500 --> 03:25:15,120
memo has nine requests for you to board. One, allow no best facility to restart until a

2334
03:25:15,120 --> 03:25:21,560
root cause analysis is completed and made public by the CPUC. Two, execute the thorough technical

2335
03:25:21,560 --> 03:25:28,220
analysis and quality assurance for you, recommended by your own hired toxicologist. The cornerstone

2336
03:25:28,220 --> 03:25:33,160
earth group in three, no related in April, 30th, release a formal county finding that the

2337
03:25:33,160 --> 03:25:41,640
metal ratios found by San Jose, San Jose State University, matched the mass 3300 batteries.

2338
03:25:42,140 --> 03:25:46,880
Four, demand that the EPA immediately sampled the black fire residue, not just for having

2339
03:25:46,880 --> 03:25:51,420
metals, but also for a bestest, dioxin, theorems, and PFA's, and report the findings

2340
03:25:51,420 --> 03:25:53,320
no longer than June 30th.

2341
03:25:53,560 --> 03:25:57,880
Five, require state-funded study of the top five millimeters of the soil and water collection

2342
03:25:57,880 --> 03:26:00,940
on's sediments within 10 miles of the plant.

2343
03:26:01,360 --> 03:26:07,400
Six demand DTSC performed proper answer testing of L-Carm's slew sediment for dioxins and

2344
03:26:07,400 --> 03:26:07,860
feurins.

2345
03:26:08,600 --> 03:26:13,260
Seven, formerly requested state funded health teams be deployed to interview tri-county residents

2346
03:26:13,260 --> 03:26:14,540
regarding health impacts.

2347
03:26:15,520 --> 03:26:21,700
Eight demand vis-ra-fund a health register by impacting by impacted residents administered

2348
03:26:21,700 --> 03:26:22,540
by the county.

2349
03:26:22,540 --> 03:26:35,980
and nine, create the Community Best Ordnance Commission under Monterey County Code 19.020.045 with a citizens advisory team to participate in drafting the county ordinance.

2350
03:26:35,980 --> 03:26:42,740
Namel is a one agency several weeks ago, we've already submitted or recommended ordinance

2351
03:26:43,520 --> 03:26:44,120
warnings.

2352
03:26:46,740 --> 03:26:52,360
Supervisors, you are the community's last line of defense. The bottom line is this.

2353
03:26:52,760 --> 03:26:57,100
Yes, there has been cleanup. And yes, there has been cover-up.

2354
03:27:00,160 --> 03:27:10,320
The issue here is that it looks like it's

2355
03:27:10,920 --> 03:27:17,140
and deaths are suffering with it. For example, I'm looking pretty good today, but my

2356
03:27:17,140 --> 03:27:26,040
nose I have chowler acne. It's caused from burning eye, I'm fear ons, and if you'd

2357
03:27:26,040 --> 03:27:29,980
see me a month ago, you think I was a drunk, because I looked like Rudolph the

2358
03:27:29,980 --> 03:27:37,760
rain door, rain deer. This stuff is affecting people, and Madam Chair, thank you for

2359
03:27:37,760 --> 03:27:42,900
including community groups to share their thousands of hours of research and what they've

2360
03:27:42,900 --> 03:27:43,660
came across.

2361
03:27:44,300 --> 03:27:49,840
Your leadership increases political public trust in the board of supervisors.

2362
03:28:02,410 --> 03:28:04,850
Anything else from our team here?

2363
03:28:04,990 --> 03:28:05,970
No, nothing further from us.

2364
03:28:06,170 --> 03:28:06,350
Thank you.

2365
03:28:06,630 --> 03:28:10,510
Well, I'll just start by saying thank you to all of our presenters, I hope everyone's still

2366
03:28:10,510 --> 03:28:12,610
with us because we are going to bring it back to the board.

2367
03:28:13,210 --> 03:28:16,090
For comments or questions, we'll start with questions from the board and then we can take it out

2368
03:28:16,090 --> 03:28:16,510
to public.

2369
03:28:18,410 --> 03:28:23,490
I have a lot of questions if you comments, but I can wait or we can do it whatever you want to do.

2370
03:28:24,150 --> 03:28:29,010
Okay, well let's open it up to public then and that way we can have our questions be based on what we hear from the public.

2371
03:28:29,510 --> 03:28:31,590
I've got our notes and we can add to those.

2372
03:28:31,910 --> 03:28:38,930
So we'll start with public comment of those in the room and if you wouldn't mind approaching the front of the room so that we can make sure we.

2373
03:28:39,050 --> 03:28:43,330
We don't miss anyone and roll through folks and then we have folks who are online as well.

2374
03:28:43,330 --> 03:28:46,190
So if you're online for public comment on the side of them, you can raise your hand

2375
03:28:46,190 --> 03:28:48,730
now so that we can be sure to account for everyone.

2376
03:28:49,950 --> 03:28:52,550
And I do have a hand of a handful of comment cards here.

2377
03:28:52,710 --> 03:28:56,210
So if you put your name on a card now would be the time to stand up and come on up.

2378
03:28:56,750 --> 03:29:00,650
But we can also, we'll make sure that we don't miss any one.

2379
03:29:00,910 --> 03:29:02,910
So if you say your name, I'll make sure we don't miss you.

2380
03:29:03,390 --> 03:29:03,750
Thank you.

2381
03:29:04,030 --> 03:29:07,390
Cameron, concerns to witness resident, never again, lost landing.

2382
03:29:08,290 --> 03:29:15,630
We're dealing with the world's largest energy battery energy storage system failure here and it's

2383
03:29:15,630 --> 03:29:18,290
going to take a long time to figure out the effects.

2384
03:29:18,870 --> 03:29:24,010
And yet at the same time, as I noted earlier, you're including this area of muscle ending

2385
03:29:24,010 --> 03:29:29,110
alcohol and slew in your affordable housing plan, trying to put a project there.

2386
03:29:29,410 --> 03:29:33,270
It's my understanding, perhaps I'm wrong, but please check out the environmental justice

2387
03:29:33,270 --> 03:29:37,030
element. I don't understand why an area that went from the corporate

2388
03:29:37,030 --> 03:29:41,970
population of 204 to 31. Now you want to repopulate it with something like

2389
03:29:41,970 --> 03:29:46,730
this, I just don't understand. There is a public comment, time available,

2390
03:29:47,410 --> 03:29:52,010
March 11th through May 11th for Monterey County Environmental Justice. Everyone, please

2391
03:29:52,010 --> 03:29:57,470
check it out. There's also a public comment period until May 11th that CDPR

2392
03:29:57,470 --> 03:29:58,670
It has a proposal too.

2393
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:05,980
They currently have 4, they want 10, yet they're conveniently leaving out salinas salad bowl of the world.

2394
03:30:06,300 --> 03:30:12,540
So, one more example about how we really have insufficient data about the environment across the board.

2395
03:30:12,760 --> 03:30:17,760
The EPA calls us the cleanest city in the state. They've come in dead samples there.

2396
03:30:18,140 --> 03:30:23,440
But I've seen pesticide pollution burden maps that differ and show up to 100% accumulation.

2397
03:30:23,440 --> 03:30:25,500
So, please study the data.

2398
03:30:25,840 --> 03:30:33,860
I'm appalled by what the differences are between DTSC, EPA, they're lagging in their time.

2399
03:30:34,280 --> 03:30:35,420
Obviously, they came late.

2400
03:30:35,580 --> 03:30:40,540
I agree with what the scientists said earlier about doing the sampling on the layer versus the deep.

2401
03:30:40,940 --> 03:30:45,260
It's just, you're not thinking of the people in these decisions.

2402
03:30:45,660 --> 03:30:52,620
And as I outlined earlier, the county plan also details many other areas that are of environmental concern

2403
03:30:52,620 --> 03:30:55,300
because you're targeting those that are 75% disadvantaged,

2404
03:30:55,820 --> 03:30:57,580
which means those that have the most pollution,

2405
03:30:57,800 --> 03:30:59,700
which means also low-income people,

2406
03:30:59,800 --> 03:31:02,040
people of color are the ones in that area.

2407
03:31:02,800 --> 03:31:06,160
So we're perpetuating the system that pollutes them,

2408
03:31:07,420 --> 03:31:10,140
So please take a look at that and I appreciate your time.

2409
03:31:10,520 --> 03:31:11,260
And all you do.

2410
03:31:16,860 --> 03:31:18,620
Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors.

2411
03:31:18,820 --> 03:31:20,880
I'm Cheryl Davidson, District 2.

2412
03:31:21,580 --> 03:31:24,540
And I want to thank you for working on these ordinances.

2413
03:31:24,540 --> 03:31:30,680
I know you're just starting on that to help protect our community and I think that it's

2414
03:31:30,680 --> 03:31:35,880
important because other of these things are going to want to go in and it's a target

2415
03:31:35,880 --> 03:31:39,240
because of the way Maslandian is built.

2416
03:31:40,200 --> 03:31:44,500
I wanted to tell you why a lot of us continue to go to these meetings.

2417
03:31:45,180 --> 03:31:45,940
They're not exciting.

2418
03:31:46,640 --> 03:31:51,120
We are busy, but we are here because we got hurt by this.

2419
03:31:51,120 --> 03:31:58,040
A lot of us got sick, I was in the health group, and we found others that we're suffering

2420
03:31:58,040 --> 03:32:04,680
too within days when we were told it was safe to go out, and it wasn't nosebleeds, skin

2421
03:32:04,680 --> 03:32:11,380
rashes, respiratory problems, metallic taste, we're still having this, a lot of us.

2422
03:32:11,580 --> 03:32:14,660
Some people gave up their homes and moved away.

2423
03:32:14,940 --> 03:32:19,800
They were in retirement age, and they weren't ready to do that.

2424
03:32:19,800 --> 03:32:22,820
And they gave everything up because they got so sick.

2425
03:32:23,140 --> 03:32:25,660
And we need to speak for them as well.

2426
03:32:26,280 --> 03:32:30,860
And our community banded together within that first week,

2427
03:32:31,200 --> 03:32:31,900
now I'm all dead.

2428
03:32:32,500 --> 03:32:35,360
And we got 150 people to do ghost wipes.

2429
03:32:36,080 --> 03:32:39,540
30 miles away, we were still showing some of these things.

2430
03:32:39,820 --> 03:32:41,000
Amber's been doing stuff.

2431
03:32:41,100 --> 03:32:42,620
Never again's been doing stuff.

2432
03:32:43,100 --> 03:32:47,520
I ask you guys to look at this data, evaluate it, ask.

2433
03:32:47,780 --> 03:32:49,440
How far away from the site?

2434
03:32:49,440 --> 03:32:55,200
were these things taken. We know the plume dropped, and it was over three miles out from these

2435
03:32:55,200 --> 03:33:02,560
things. You can see it on our Ghostbite sample. Tarts, I know that there's a lot of people here

2436
03:33:02,560 --> 03:33:08,400
on the board that care deeply for our area and our community and there are people here and experts

2437
03:33:08,400 --> 03:33:14,240
utilize them, have them talk to who you're using in the county. I know you've been doing stuff,

2438
03:33:14,680 --> 03:33:18,840
but please, these things are going to open up. We have another building just like the one that

2439
03:33:18,840 --> 03:33:20,940
on fire. Thank you.

2440
03:33:33,940 --> 03:33:36,560
I'm going to use my time wisely. Thank you all for your patience.

2441
03:33:38,420 --> 03:33:43,760
There is no irony that self-funded science provides its own desired results. Outside of

2442
03:33:43,760 --> 03:33:47,760
impacts to health and wildlife, it is critical to highlight the amount of financial

2443
03:33:47,760 --> 03:33:52,560
dearest and stress this emergency situation with mass-learning battery fire and its contaminants

2444
03:33:52,560 --> 03:33:58,460
both known and unknown created for my family and others. It is clear that this, on Monterey

2445
03:33:58,460 --> 03:34:02,920
county knew that there was eminent risk and safety contingency plans and her quest for

2446
03:34:02,920 --> 03:34:04,120
their of was not honored.

2447
03:34:04,700 --> 03:34:08,540
And after repeat incidents, ultimately resulted in the forced displacement, financial

2448
03:34:08,540 --> 03:34:10,940
disparity, and health risks for many residents.

2449
03:34:11,480 --> 03:34:14,680
When you're told that monitoring county cannot be held accountable for this severe oversight

2450
03:34:14,680 --> 03:34:17,480
with our taxes that funded is inevitable disaster.

2451
03:34:17,960 --> 03:34:24,340
Therefore, do you agree that impacted residents merit tax relief, refund, and or clean

2452
03:34:24,340 --> 03:34:30,460
It is clear from the insurmountable evidence that there is a tragic lack of appropriate and time-sensitive

2453
03:34:30,460 --> 03:34:31,040
testing.

2454
03:34:31,420 --> 03:34:32,300
Where do we go from here?

2455
03:34:32,580 --> 03:34:33,600
How do we get our homes back?

2456
03:34:33,680 --> 03:34:34,820
How do we get our safety back?

2457
03:34:35,100 --> 03:34:36,500
How do we preserve Monterey Bay?

2458
03:34:36,540 --> 03:34:37,500
Elcorn slew?

2459
03:34:37,700 --> 03:34:39,200
Our marine sanctuary?

2460
03:34:39,800 --> 03:34:40,400
World agriculture?

2461
03:34:40,700 --> 03:34:41,440
Our commercial fishing?

2462
03:34:41,920 --> 03:34:46,080
And further contamination, contaminant, contaminant, contamination of this

2463
03:34:46,080 --> 03:34:49,620
eminent catastrophe that these batteries at storage facilities have proven to be.

2464
03:34:49,920 --> 03:34:51,280
Right now we have Orca's offshore.

2465
03:34:51,280 --> 03:34:58,660
and they will be impacted by a cumulative toxin and what about families such

2466
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:06,780
And I want you to know that myself, my family, has been impacted. Both myself and my eight-year-old daughter have had unusually

2467
03:35:06,780 --> 03:35:13,040
quagling blood, which is something that can be caused by cobalt. And my daughter here has an extremely

2468
03:35:13,040 --> 03:35:21,960
slow growth rate that I'm looking at babies at our twice or eight. Our same age is her twice

2469
03:35:21,960 --> 03:35:28,140
her size, have her age and her size. That my pediatrician and I'm monitoring this, because

2470
03:35:28,620 --> 03:35:37,420
co-pultons cause calcium to leach from your body. These are real for us. We are impacted,

2471
03:35:37,420 --> 03:35:43,690
and we want our homes back. I just wanted to include, I have samples from my boat here from

2472
03:35:43,690 --> 03:35:48,230
the side that faces the towers and the side that doesn't, and tarps that I put on last year

2473
03:35:48,230 --> 03:35:53,590
when I was, had to be relocated this time last year. And you can see there's a clear difference

2474
03:35:53,590 --> 03:35:58,550
from the wind facing side and the not facing side. And this is just from when we left.

2475
03:36:09,620 --> 03:36:17,500
Corral Beter from Coralitis. My husband and I were driving back from Salinas to our home in

2476
03:36:17,500 --> 03:36:22,080
Coralitis, the night that the fire was very visible.

2477
03:36:24,450 --> 03:36:27,210
We went home that night to watch Felix Cortez

2478
03:36:27,750 --> 03:36:34,050
announced what had happened, and I was horrified and very concerned. I actually had a different

2479
03:36:34,050 --> 03:36:40,130
presentation for you today until I got to watch all of the statistics and our science from the

2480
03:36:40,130 --> 03:36:46,750
Department of toxic substances. Because within a few days I had contacted my friend who had

2481
03:36:46,750 --> 03:36:51,550
worked for the she's an analyst for the Department of Defense and asked her, what kind of outcomes

2482
03:36:51,550 --> 03:36:58,070
can you expect from some kind of fire like this? Because as most of you know, we had the burn pets

2483
03:36:58,070 --> 03:37:10,310
in Quate and Afghanistan. I'll tell you a quick rundown. The soldiers were reporting very serious health

2484
03:37:10,310 --> 03:37:17,450
problems after being exposed to the toxic air and the leftovers from the burn pits. However,

2485
03:37:17,650 --> 03:37:23,810
our government, blessed our little heart, had buried a lot of the debris and never had really

2486
03:37:23,810 --> 03:37:27,950
accurately tested the air that they had been breathing, especially the bulldozer

2487
03:37:27,950 --> 03:37:34,890
drivers who were picking soil up that was theoretically uncontaminated to start

2488
03:37:34,890 --> 03:37:43,110
filling in the burn pits. Finally, some of these mainly bulldozer drivers went to the

2489
03:37:43,110 --> 03:37:47,810
Department of Defense and had been at Walter Reed and complained and said we have been

2490
03:37:47,810 --> 03:37:52,870
affected by these toxic, and the soil, and it had become aromatic.

2491
03:37:54,570 --> 03:37:58,830
The Department of Defense's first response was kind of like we were today.

2492
03:37:59,470 --> 03:38:01,370
Nothing to see here, nothing really happened.

2493
03:38:02,430 --> 03:38:05,730
There were just maybe a few little particles in the air.

2494
03:38:06,050 --> 03:38:11,270
It took a lot of work to go through and do what we've asked for today, a very comprehensive

2495
03:38:11,270 --> 03:38:14,530
test, to know what we actually were exposed to.

2496
03:38:22,530 --> 03:38:25,110
Good afternoon, Becky Steinburn,

2497
03:38:25,210 --> 03:38:26,750
I'm a resident of Santa Cruz County.

2498
03:38:26,850 --> 03:38:29,090
I want to first of all, thank you for making this

2499
03:38:29,090 --> 03:38:32,210
at a set time so that people could be here.

2500
03:38:33,550 --> 03:38:36,990
I am quite shocked by what the DTS see

2501
03:38:36,990 --> 03:38:38,410
is telling us to believe.

2502
03:38:38,990 --> 03:38:41,090
And I want to thank the scientists

2503
03:38:41,090 --> 03:38:43,590
from Mosslanding Marine Lab

2504
03:38:43,590 --> 03:38:46,850
and the citizen scientists from never again Mosslanding

2505
03:38:46,850 --> 03:38:49,290
for really bringing the truth to light.

2506
03:38:49,770 --> 03:38:52,170
It was a polling to me to hear the D.S.

2507
03:38:52,170 --> 03:39:00,770
DTSC signed to say there was no evidence of potential existing contamination.

2508
03:39:00,970 --> 03:39:07,810
When we have Dr. ALO study, the very well and scientifically documents that, I want to

2509
03:39:07,810 --> 03:39:13,750
say that, who is left out of this risk health risk assessment is the emergency responders.

2510
03:39:13,950 --> 03:39:19,150
I didn't see them mentioned at all, and they certainly need to be included.

2511
03:39:19,970 --> 03:39:28,070
I also feel that it is unacceptable that slide four does not even mention cobalt as a hazardous

2512
03:39:28,070 --> 03:39:33,250
material when it is a known carcinogen and a genetic toxin.

2513
03:39:33,490 --> 03:39:40,170
It is mentioned in the soil sampling, but it is not mentioned in any air sampling.

2514
03:39:40,590 --> 03:39:46,470
That's what is affecting, has affected, and will continue to affect the public health.

2515
03:39:49,700 --> 03:39:58,660
I want to say that I spoke with Dr. Wang from the Desert Research Institute who is a specialist on air quality heat.

2516
03:40:00,110 --> 03:40:09,310
The equipment that the EPA used and he was appalled that they couldn't figure out how to calibrate it because that's exactly what that equipment is supposed to be used for.

2517
03:40:09,870 --> 03:40:21,470
And he also let me know that inside of the Moss Landing Marine Lab, they found heavy metal residue on the surfaces, even though the doors and windows were closed.

2518
03:40:21,470 --> 03:40:31,830
So, sending people home 24 hours after this disaster and telling them to close their doors and windows was ludicrous and full hearty.

2519
03:40:32,390 --> 03:40:43,250
I want to say finally that the problem a diagram is shown for the environmental impacts is appalling and unacceptable because it goes out over the bay, not inland.

2520
03:40:43,250 --> 03:40:51,130
As Dr. Ailes studies in the Never Again Moss Landing Studies show, that's where the toxins went.

2521
03:40:51,810 --> 03:40:56,590
Thank you. Do not accept these. Do not accept these horrible reports.

2522
03:40:56,930 --> 03:40:59,510
Depend on your local scientists for truth. Thank you.

2523
03:41:06,430 --> 03:41:08,670
Hello, galisner, Moss Landing.

2524
03:41:10,090 --> 03:41:18,350
I just wanted to make a quick point that it's a legal point, but it's cumulative offenses are primarily addressing criminal law.

2525
03:41:18,350 --> 03:41:27,690
They often arise in cases where a person or business has a history of repeated criminal behavior, leading to more severe charges and penalties.

2526
03:41:28,890 --> 03:41:35,350
Legal practitioners may use this concept to argue for harsh or sentencing based on a pattern of behavior.

2527
03:41:35,950 --> 03:41:46,670
And I say that because I wanted to mention that both Vistra and Tesla, but mainly Vistra has very large fines and criminal violations for environmental laws.

2528
03:41:46,670 --> 03:41:55,290
And I just like to have the board at least take that into consideration while you're determining things that you're determining.

2529
03:41:56,110 --> 03:41:57,090
Thank you.

2530
03:42:06,930 --> 03:42:08,610
Hi there, my name is Emily Francis Cohanna.

2531
03:42:08,810 --> 03:42:09,130
Are we ready?

2532
03:42:09,470 --> 03:42:09,850
Okay, great.

2533
03:42:10,250 --> 03:42:11,370
I'm actually not feeling well.

2534
03:42:11,430 --> 03:42:14,170
So I'm going to try to keep it all together as I speak today.

2535
03:42:14,950 --> 03:42:20,490
I appreciate the time that everybody's put together these reports on all sides.

2536
03:42:20,510 --> 03:42:23,850
I appreciate the attention of this matter from the Board of Supervisors.

2537
03:42:25,250 --> 03:42:33,150
I know that I've told you all in past meetings that I actually have a bachelor's degree in public health from Johns Hopkins University.

2538
03:42:34,270 --> 03:42:43,310
And one of the things that I got to learn about during that time was about the formation of the EPA and love canal as a first major case.

2539
03:42:43,310 --> 03:42:51,050
And how excited I was that people were putting together this agency to help protect the

2540
03:42:51,050 --> 03:42:51,430
public.

2541
03:42:52,490 --> 03:43:00,270
And unfortunately, since this fire happened, I have talked to numerous people from East

2542
03:43:00,270 --> 03:43:07,410
Palestine, Ohio and victims of other chemical disasters where the EPA has come in and

2543
03:43:07,410 --> 03:43:14,670
in adequate sampling and the results that they are finding for these other chemical disasters

2544
03:43:14,670 --> 03:43:20,170
is that everything's fine and meanwhile people in East Palacino, Ohio are dying left and

2545
03:43:20,170 --> 03:43:26,810
right of cancer after the trained enrollment and chemical disaster. So it's very frustrating.

2546
03:43:27,150 --> 03:43:32,610
There's a lot of distress not only among myself but also the rest of the community especially

2547
03:43:32,610 --> 03:43:41,590
when the EPA and the first announced minutes again, sorry, I'm not feeling well today, that

2548
03:43:41,590 --> 03:43:46,850
they, in the first press conference for this fire, they came and they had the gall to say that

2549
03:43:46,850 --> 03:43:54,450
everything blew up in the fire that there's no debris, it all burned. You can see it, it's on YouTube.

2550
03:43:55,590 --> 03:44:02,470
And then they said, there's a plume, and the plume stayed over the Mossland and campus. Now, these are

2551
03:44:02,610 --> 03:44:08,370
in Congress statements. The first denotes that there's no clue because it all burned.

2552
03:44:10,490 --> 03:44:19,310
I have more to say, and more to say, these reports are really frustrating. And I will note too,

2553
03:44:19,530 --> 03:44:24,570
that it's frustrating that the Ember study was not included, especially when we heard from our

2554
03:44:24,570 --> 03:44:31,450
county members saying that the results from the Moss Landing Marine Lab study would be presented to

2555
03:44:31,450 --> 03:44:35,310
in relationship to what was happening with the EPA results.

2556
03:44:36,010 --> 03:44:39,590
And by the way, Dr. I. L.O. called

2557
03:44:39,590 --> 03:44:42,570
NAMOL, the NAMOL leadership, and said,

2558
03:44:42,870 --> 03:44:46,650
our results match the fingerprint of your results exactly.

2559
03:44:47,410 --> 03:44:49,770
So the presentations from everybody besides

2560
03:44:50,430 --> 03:44:53,970
Ember and NAMOL today are very frustrating. Thank you.

2561
03:45:00,780 --> 03:45:01,500
Okay,

2562
03:45:04,420 --> 03:45:11,160
seeing no one else in chambers for comment today. We're going to move on line. We do have a number of hands raised. So we will

2563
03:45:14,200 --> 03:45:18,700
thermon run away and then Michelle Clarie.

2564
03:45:24,660 --> 03:45:36,240
So the IAMAAC plume model was wildly inaccurate. Any agency that's using that to dictate their sampling plan is either corrupt or ignorant.

2565
03:45:36,240 --> 03:45:42,000
And I don't believe any of the people that spoke today are stupid, so that kind of just leaves one option.

2566
03:45:42,840 --> 03:45:46,040
So the air monitoring, also, you can see the smoke.

2567
03:45:46,100 --> 03:45:50,120
You could clearly see the smoke moving very far away from it miles.

2568
03:45:50,580 --> 03:45:55,940
In fact, in the emergency reports, they stated that the smoke was blowing into Santa Cruz and San Benito County.

2569
03:45:56,680 --> 03:46:00,940
So the emergency reports as the county put together, state that.

2570
03:46:00,940 --> 03:46:07,620
So, the DTSC, my question for you is that you put up the XRF data that was parts per million,

2571
03:46:08,260 --> 03:46:14,220
is that per centimeter squared or kilogram, can you define those units of measure?

2572
03:46:14,760 --> 03:46:20,160
You also didn't take a soil sample from site 1 because you didn't visually see any debris,

2573
03:46:20,400 --> 03:46:24,980
but a lot of this was nanoparticles. Can you kind of describe what you were looking for when

2574
03:46:24,980 --> 03:46:29,660
you're looking for these very small particles and why you didn't see it and how easy it is to see

2575
03:46:29,660 --> 03:46:37,700
nanoparticle or a lithium-ion. You also say there's pH data, lab results. I can't find those.

2576
03:46:37,860 --> 03:46:44,260
Where do I find the pH lab results? The air monitoring data. This has to do more with the EPA,

2577
03:46:44,400 --> 03:46:49,580
so Cal EPA wants to comment. The monitors weren't operating properly. If you look at the data,

2578
03:46:49,760 --> 03:46:59,400
any of the sites that were offsite were operating, so that was site 6 through 9. I reached out to the

2579
03:46:59,400 --> 03:47:02,520
The EPA line said that it was on the website.

2580
03:47:02,800 --> 03:47:03,280
It's not.

2581
03:47:03,580 --> 03:47:06,100
And when I reached out to the EPA, they told me they

2582
03:47:06,100 --> 03:47:09,480
don't have the data for the sites, 6 through 9.

2583
03:47:10,240 --> 03:47:12,180
I mean, how are they publishing these summaries

2584
03:47:12,180 --> 03:47:13,420
if they don't have the data?

2585
03:47:13,700 --> 03:47:16,120
And I could provide that response from the EPA

2586
03:47:16,120 --> 03:47:17,720
to the Board of Supervisors that they

2587
03:47:17,720 --> 03:47:23,180
want it lasting the HF standard that

2588
03:47:23,180 --> 03:47:27,600
was used was for occupational level for eight hours.

2589
03:47:27,600 --> 03:47:32,580
is that appropriate for my new born baby to be exposed to that's being exposed 24 hours?

2590
03:47:33,000 --> 03:47:39,500
I want to know, you know, why was that eight-hour occupational HF used instead of something more appropriate?

2591
03:47:39,900 --> 03:47:45,780
Thank you. Thank you. Next up we have Michelle Clarie and then Beverly.

2592
03:47:52,560 --> 03:47:54,080
You guys first? We can. Thank you.

2593
03:47:56,000 --> 03:47:59,680
Okay, perfect. Thanks, you guys, for this update and yes, I agree. One,

2594
03:47:59,680 --> 03:48:07,540
at 130 was perfect, so I really appreciate it. Again, like the community said, it's very different

2595
03:48:07,540 --> 03:48:14,980
data. You have to go from your local marine scientists. They have all the data.

2596
03:48:15,380 --> 03:48:20,800
Every hearing that these other ones didn't have the data, you can't even go. You have to

2597
03:48:20,800 --> 03:48:25,860
you have to dismiss it. That everything's okay even though there's, you know, hundreds of thousands

2598
03:48:25,860 --> 03:48:31,420
of metal like samples that they're seeing that it's higher than it's ever been, but

2599
03:48:31,420 --> 03:48:35,960
oh, not dangerous, but I guarantee you if you had a house right there and somebody was

2600
03:48:35,960 --> 03:48:40,220
trying to get a permit or they had a well there and they go, this is unacceptable amounts

2601
03:48:40,220 --> 03:48:40,660
of stuff.

2602
03:48:41,060 --> 03:48:42,020
You can't live here.

2603
03:48:42,140 --> 03:48:43,200
You can't have water.

2604
03:48:43,300 --> 03:48:48,320
You can't drink this, but it's okay when they're doing a study, throw it out, don't accept

2605
03:48:48,320 --> 03:48:48,900
it.

2606
03:48:49,140 --> 03:48:49,500
It's not.

2607
03:48:49,560 --> 03:48:54,100
You have heard too many of us say the health things that we're having here.

2608
03:48:54,100 --> 03:49:06,300
Again, there is that plume that showed over the water, I had to relocate self-locate because we were right under the plume when the fire was going on in Royal Oaks.

2609
03:49:06,820 --> 03:49:14,480
And we went all the way to Hollister, then it was all over the place there, and sitting in pockets and people are breathing in that smoke.

2610
03:49:15,040 --> 03:49:21,720
You know, again, no studies on what's happened to moles and animals that have just been dying everywhere,

2611
03:49:21,720 --> 03:49:25,980
or our livestock that we know that are becoming still born at birth

2612
03:49:25,980 --> 03:49:30,060
that we didn't have problems with up in the hills behind us in areas

2613
03:49:30,060 --> 03:49:35,000
not by the water. This whole thing of EPA even coming out and saying

2614
03:49:35,000 --> 03:49:40,260
there's no nothing to worry about here. When all the health surveys and

2615
03:49:40,260 --> 03:49:45,920
everything is showing differently, I just blows my mind and I love seeing it

2616
03:49:45,920 --> 03:49:50,300
because when these others just come up with their other information, it just makes

2617
03:49:50,300 --> 03:49:53,260
some look very unprofessional.

2618
03:49:54,000 --> 03:49:56,420
So again, we can't take this.

2619
03:49:56,420 --> 03:49:57,840
You need to continue with more studies.

2620
03:49:58,240 --> 03:49:58,640
Thank you.

2621
03:50:04,210 --> 03:50:06,310
All right, we have our next badly.

2622
03:50:08,880 --> 03:50:35,800
Good afternoon. Thank you for all of your work. My name is Beverly Desho. I'm with Electric Vehicle Association and we are an educational nonprofit and we have been doing electric vehicle and renewable energy, education events. I personally have been involved for 19 years. So I have some understanding about batteries. I just want to say that it will never happen.

2623
03:50:35,840 --> 03:50:44,480
again, because that configuration that was shown in the never again at the end of their presentation,

2624
03:50:44,940 --> 03:50:51,020
that configuration inside batteries stacked on top of each other, and they were nickel

2625
03:50:51,020 --> 03:50:55,160
manganese cobalt, that chemistry is not used.

2626
03:50:55,660 --> 03:51:03,940
LFP, the lithium iron phosphate is now being used, it's much safer and is being scaled

2627
03:51:03,940 --> 03:51:07,860
the world wide because of it for storage.

2628
03:51:09,760 --> 03:51:14,400
I would like to clear up some incidences that were reported as being fires.

2629
03:51:15,020 --> 03:51:20,340
The September 21st and February 22nd incidences that occurred were not fires.

2630
03:51:20,840 --> 03:51:24,560
They were overheating incidences from water from the thermal.

2631
03:51:25,140 --> 03:51:26,840
They were not thermal runaway.

2632
03:51:26,980 --> 03:51:30,760
They were from the water being sprayed on the batteries that caused some smoke.

2633
03:51:30,760 --> 03:51:47,700
And they were immediately handled, also the September 22nd event that happened, there was a fire in the Tesla PG&E batteries, but they were immediately contained as they were designed to do.

2634
03:51:48,560 --> 03:52:00,480
All other incidences that have occurred have been immediately contained or they were being done illegally and illegally stored in some cases.

2635
03:52:00,480 --> 03:52:01,420
And,

2636
03:52:04,320 --> 03:52:12,900
I have so much to say, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not there, the manufacturers are, as I said, are scaling up.

2637
03:52:13,080 --> 03:52:18,560
The sodium batteries that are a bit safer are not available really at scale yet.

2638
03:52:18,960 --> 03:52:22,040
They will have major tariffs on them, so they will be unaffordable.

2639
03:52:22,480 --> 03:52:32,100
The solid state batteries were a few years out and they will be a game changer because what causes the fire will not be there in the solid state batteries.

2640
03:52:32,100 --> 03:52:38,080
Thank you. Thank you. I'll just say for anyone who wants to make sure you have comment on record with us.

2641
03:52:38,340 --> 03:52:43,400
We do encourage and appreciate written comments submitted to the board that they go into our

2642
03:52:43,400 --> 03:52:48,760
permanent record and they give us and our whole team a chance to review and think about what's in front of us.

2643
03:52:48,940 --> 03:52:54,500
But those can be emailed to the full board of supervisors by emailing to COB at

2644
03:52:54,500 --> 03:53:01,860
county of Monterey dot GOV. So we always encourage if you've got more to say or we run out of time or even in

2645
03:53:01,860 --> 03:53:08,680
Vance of meetings, it's always helpful for us. Okay, but having said that, we're going to move on to Zoom user and then the phone number

2646
03:53:08,680 --> 03:53:10,560
ending in 902.

2647
03:53:15,170 --> 03:53:28,170
Hello, get up. Can you guys hear me? We can't. We've got you. Thanks. Okay, perfect. Get after another one. I'm going to read to the board and everyone here that is on.

2648
03:53:28,850 --> 03:53:41,960
today's meeting a report from the WECC that was released on December of 2025 and it goes like this.

2649
03:53:42,810 --> 03:53:49,990
January 16, 2025, fire. The Moss Landing Phase 1 BESS consists of three arrays.

2650
03:53:49,990 --> 03:53:57,430
Dallas 1, Dallas 2, Dallas 3. On Thursday, January 16, at 1100 hours, Viter began conducting

2651
03:53:57,430 --> 03:54:04,570
a capacity test on Dallas 1, and Dallas 2, the test was part of a routine performance validation

2652
03:54:04,570 --> 03:54:13,550
for the phase 1 system. At 1440, eight hours on Thursday, January 16, a fire alarm was triggered in

2653
03:54:13,550 --> 03:54:19,070
the phase 1 building on Dallas 1. This was the first sign of potential thermal runway event.

2654
03:54:19,070 --> 03:54:25,890
The fire was confirmed by the plan system operator and emergency services were notified.

2655
03:54:26,390 --> 03:54:34,190
After 1006, the fire department arrived at the initiated the incident command system.

2656
03:54:34,850 --> 03:54:46,970
At 1648 hours due to the worsening conditions inside the phase 1 building, the fire department ordered the activation of exhaust fans to ventilate the structure and clear the smoke from the building.

2657
03:54:46,970 --> 03:54:54,190
The decision to deactivate the overhead sprinklers was also made since they were proving ineffective

2658
03:54:54,190 --> 03:54:55,730
in suppressing the fire.

2659
03:54:55,730 --> 03:54:58,610
at 17.52 through 18.

2660
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:11,220
Rapidly deteriorated flames broke through the roof of the face one building. So it's coming from the WECC that

2661
03:55:11,220 --> 03:55:24,180
Vistra was doing capacity test on Dallas one in Dallas two. And since I mean like this was not

2662
03:55:24,180 --> 03:55:24,680
Just close.

2663
03:55:29,750 --> 03:55:29,870
All right.

2664
03:55:30,070 --> 03:55:30,390
Thank you.

2665
03:55:30,690 --> 03:55:34,170
We're going next to November ending in 902 and then to Spencer Brant.

2666
03:55:38,880 --> 03:55:39,460
Good afternoon.

2667
03:55:39,580 --> 03:55:40,500
This is Nina Bating.

2668
03:55:40,620 --> 03:55:43,160
Thank you for scheduling the hearing first this afternoon.

2669
03:55:44,560 --> 03:55:45,580
EPA is not here.

2670
03:55:45,800 --> 03:55:47,300
It has responsibility yet.

2671
03:55:47,400 --> 03:55:48,700
It's not here.

2672
03:55:50,100 --> 03:55:50,620
DTSC.

2673
03:55:50,620 --> 03:55:57,060
I'm reminded of the situation that the CME Valley residents and the people in Los Angeles are experiencing

2674
03:55:57,060 --> 03:56:04,080
as a result of DTSC's work at San Francisco and a field laboratory and the rescinding

2675
03:56:04,080 --> 03:56:10,700
of the cleanup agreement, leaving residents in that community stranded with medical bills

2676
03:56:10,700 --> 03:56:15,600
and with children that are sick and families that are sick from contaminated well water

2677
03:56:15,600 --> 03:56:21,300
and exposures on the ground from radioactivity as well as contamination of the gone into

2678
03:56:21,300 --> 03:56:22,160
their water system.

2679
03:56:22,160 --> 03:56:29,860
We join a long list of communities like that who have been contaminated by well-connected political interests and abandoned.

2680
03:56:30,620 --> 03:56:35,880
I want to echo Becky Stein-Bunner's statements don't accept these agencies in Vista Contract reports.

2681
03:56:36,700 --> 03:56:38,800
When they talk about chronic what about acute?

2682
03:56:39,760 --> 03:56:43,260
The chemicals of interest I didn't hear any mention of hydrogen chloride.

2683
03:56:43,900 --> 03:56:47,560
I'm alarmed at the false statements in the improper sampling of the soil.

2684
03:56:47,560 --> 03:56:49,900
This is not quote quality assured information.

2685
03:56:50,120 --> 03:56:51,780
It is not quote science-based.

2686
03:56:52,360 --> 03:56:54,400
And yet they stand, there's state, state, state,

2687
03:56:54,600 --> 03:56:56,740
phase, saying sampling months later, is adequate.

2688
03:56:57,620 --> 03:57:00,740
Why was the debris not collected by CDFW or the county?

2689
03:57:00,760 --> 03:57:01,940
It was clearly visible.

2690
03:57:02,640 --> 03:57:04,980
And the county was capable of collecting it.

2691
03:57:05,300 --> 03:57:07,260
The established protocols were geared

2692
03:57:07,260 --> 03:57:09,820
to find no problem and no results.

2693
03:57:09,820 --> 03:57:11,260
And I want to appreciate

2694
03:57:11,260 --> 03:57:14,720
mass-landing marine laboratory and amber partners

2695
03:57:14,720 --> 03:57:17,180
and never again mass-landing in their experts

2696
03:57:17,180 --> 03:57:21,360
that actually adhere to scientific methods and analysis.

2697
03:57:24,180 --> 03:57:28,640
The industry admits that battery faults can't be detected, so one of your callers that

2698
03:57:28,640 --> 03:57:33,480
talked about thermal runaway not being a problem is false, and I provided information

2699
03:57:33,480 --> 03:57:37,980
of the state and the county regarding potential radioactive contamination on site and in

2700
03:57:37,980 --> 03:57:45,540
the harbor from a PG&E unpermitted nuclear reactor years ago that was going to endanger when

2701
03:57:45,540 --> 03:57:49,980
And they were doing demolition for this site, and no one has still done any investigation

2702
03:57:49,980 --> 03:57:57,000
or returned any call to me, and yet that is complicating the situation as well if it existed.

2703
03:57:57,520 --> 03:57:58,360
Thank you.

2704
03:57:58,540 --> 03:58:03,500
Incidentally, when incident over a overheating was reported by fire officials as a fire.

2705
03:58:04,320 --> 03:58:08,940
This is an alarming situation, the public is still being left single and listening to agencies

2706
03:58:08,940 --> 03:58:11,720
that have a track record of not protecting the public.

2707
03:58:12,140 --> 03:58:12,680
Thank you.

2708
03:58:12,940 --> 03:58:13,540
We are at a time.

2709
03:58:13,560 --> 03:58:13,840
Thank you.

2710
03:58:17,870 --> 03:58:19,150
Thanks, thank you.

2711
03:58:19,370 --> 03:58:19,930
Hi, trimmer makeup.

2712
03:58:20,130 --> 03:58:22,350
We're going next to Spencer Brandt,

2713
03:58:22,490 --> 03:58:23,750
and then Leslie Austin.

2714
03:58:27,270 --> 03:58:27,930
Hello, chair.

2715
03:58:28,110 --> 03:58:30,550
Reed asks you and members of the Board of Supervisors.

2716
03:58:30,870 --> 03:58:33,510
Thank you very much for hosting the presentations today.

2717
03:58:33,930 --> 03:58:34,970
My name is Spencer Brandt,

2718
03:58:35,070 --> 03:58:37,930
and I'm here on behalf of Central Coast Community Energy,

2719
03:58:38,310 --> 03:58:43,350
the public agency that procures energy for 1.2 million central coast residents.

2720
03:58:43,990 --> 03:58:46,210
Our employees live and work in this community

2721
03:58:46,210 --> 03:58:49,070
and we are proud to call Mallory County our home.

2722
03:58:49,070 --> 03:58:59,570
3CE is committed to delivering a 100% clean, renewable energy and its our responsibility to ensure that we have reliable and affordable power for the communities that we serve.

2723
03:59:00,450 --> 03:59:09,390
Energy storage allows us to store clean energy when solar is abundant during the day and deliver it back to the grid with demand peaks in the evening,

2724
03:59:09,710 --> 03:59:16,050
which is also when prices rise and when the grid would otherwise rely much more heavily on fossil fuels.

2725
03:59:16,050 --> 03:59:22,690
Energy storage, technology, and facility construction has evolved fairly significantly since

2726
03:59:22,690 --> 03:59:26,110
legacy projects like Vista's Moss Landing were built.

2727
03:59:26,790 --> 03:59:33,090
It is because of this that battery failure rates have dropped by 98% since 2018, even

2728
03:59:33,090 --> 03:59:39,070
as global deployment of energy storage has expanded by more than 25,000%.

2729
03:59:39,070 --> 03:59:45,690
Modern projects are constructed outdoors and enclosed containerized systems designed to stop thermal

2730
03:59:45,690 --> 03:59:51,630
run away, and the industry has moved away from the NMC technology in favor of what's

2731
03:59:51,630 --> 03:59:52,530
the American phosphate.

2732
03:59:53,390 --> 03:59:58,630
3CE, along with the county of Monterey, supported Senator John Lairv's clean air safety act.

2733
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:11,200
On our last year, this strengthens battery, safety, and requires new storage facilities to meet national fire protection standards and undergo coordination and inspection from local fire authorities.

2734
04:00:12,140 --> 04:00:27,900
In communities that we have seen that have adopted bands as some of suggested on energy storage projects. Developers are utilizing the state's California energy commission, permitting pathways, shifting approvals away from the local level into the state level.

2735
04:00:27,900 --> 04:00:30,560
as a locally controlled public agency,

2736
04:00:30,700 --> 04:00:33,600
we recognize the value of local decision-making

2737
04:00:33,600 --> 04:00:36,180
and energy policy and encourage the board

2738
04:00:36,180 --> 04:00:38,300
to continue an evidence-based discussion.

2739
04:00:38,360 --> 04:00:38,960
Thank you.

2740
04:00:38,980 --> 04:00:41,600
It supports appropriate oversight of energy storage.

2741
04:00:42,080 --> 04:00:42,960
Thank you.

2742
04:00:44,900 --> 04:00:45,720
All right, and if I can just ask those

2743
04:00:45,720 --> 04:00:46,560
who have continued to speak,

2744
04:00:46,720 --> 04:00:48,260
just to help me watch the clock.

2745
04:00:48,440 --> 04:00:50,420
I don't like interrupting you when you're speaking,

2746
04:00:50,980 --> 04:00:53,360
but I do want to make sure we continue to hear from everyone.

2747
04:00:54,160 --> 04:00:56,020
All right, without we're going to go next to Leslie Austin

2748
04:00:56,020 --> 04:00:57,080
and then Brian Roder.

2749
04:01:00,670 --> 04:01:04,870
Madam Chair, members of the Board, good afternoon. My name is Leslie Austin.

2750
04:01:05,330 --> 04:01:11,830
I live in Aromas, about 11 miles from Auslanding and I work in Clean Energy Policy. But I'm

2751
04:01:11,830 --> 04:01:17,450
speaking today as a neighbor and as someone who supports Veterans Storage and the renewable energy

2752
04:01:17,450 --> 04:01:23,850
transition. The environmental and health impacts this community has lived with are real and

2753
04:01:23,850 --> 04:01:28,250
people living with them deserve answers. I'm here because I think

2754
04:01:28,250 --> 04:01:32,130
Monterey County stumbled onto something important, and I think it

2755
04:01:32,130 --> 04:01:36,350
deserves to be part of the rules that govern what gets built next in

2756
04:01:36,350 --> 04:01:40,370
California. Here's what I heard. I heard Dr. Washington say that

2757
04:01:40,370 --> 04:01:45,490
terrified scores were taken far too late to detect the fallout layer. I

2758
04:01:45,490 --> 04:01:49,790
heard Dr. Garland say the conclusions of the draft report may change

2759
04:01:49,790 --> 04:01:55,710
and a fundamental opinion cannot be rendered until the review is complete. I heard battery

2760
04:01:55,710 --> 04:02:02,750
metals entered Elkorn's slew. They didn't disappear. They were redistributed. And we don't yet

2761
04:02:02,750 --> 04:02:09,770
know whether what entered Elkorn's slew caused lasting harm to this ecosystem. California is about

2762
04:02:09,770 --> 04:02:15,850
to build many more of these critical facilities. But Monterey County learned about the gap between

2763
04:02:15,850 --> 04:02:22,270
contamination and when formal sampling begins about what community science can see that regulatory

2764
04:02:22,270 --> 04:02:28,550
science sometimes can't. That knowledge belongs in the rules. The county didn't ask for

2765
04:02:28,550 --> 04:02:35,150
this lesson, but it has it, and I'd ask this board to make sure it doesn't stay here. I'd ask

2766
04:02:35,150 --> 04:02:40,190
three things of the board. Ensure that future projects are held in high standards that protect

2767
04:02:40,190 --> 04:02:45,510
the environment and the community require that developers contractually own the responsibility

2768
04:02:45,510 --> 04:02:51,790
of something goes wrong in operations in maintenance and in cleanup and formally tell the

2769
04:02:51,790 --> 04:02:57,450
legislature and the state fire marshal what you learned here on the record so the people

2770
04:02:57,450 --> 04:03:02,150
currently writing the next round of standards for California have the benefit of what

2771
04:03:02,150 --> 04:03:07,630
Monterey County lived through. This is the moment to make sure that lesson counts. Thank you.

2772
04:03:09,360 --> 04:03:12,660
Thank you. We'll go next to Brian Roder and then David Prina.

2773
04:03:16,840 --> 04:03:21,500
Thank you to the board and to this community for being here again. Thank you for

2774
04:03:21,500 --> 04:03:28,180
scheduling us at 130 and allowing it to happen at that time. I don't know the previous speaker

2775
04:03:28,180 --> 04:03:32,780
but I absolutely second what she just said. It was very thoughtful. We've heard from people all

2776
04:03:32,780 --> 04:03:37,540
over the world asking what's going to be done. You folks on the front line of doing something

2777
04:03:37,540 --> 04:03:42,520
not just for our community but for communities around the world. I spoke just this morning to a

2778
04:03:42,520 --> 04:03:47,800
government, who's at Mateson Verde, and they want to put in a large facility there.

2779
04:03:48,220 --> 04:03:49,100
A couple of points.

2780
04:03:49,980 --> 04:03:54,900
One of the speakers said that there will never be another one of these because it was

2781
04:03:54,900 --> 04:03:55,560
in the building.

2782
04:03:56,280 --> 04:03:59,900
Otae Mateson, down in San Diego, like 2024, proved that long.

2783
04:04:00,420 --> 04:04:06,320
That community used over 2 million gallons of water to keep the fire from spreading from

2784
04:04:06,320 --> 04:04:08,280
a single container to the adjoining containers.

2785
04:04:08,280 --> 04:04:14,720
I don't believe that we have that type of water available at this site even though we're

2786
04:04:14,720 --> 04:04:19,860
looking obviously at single containers going forward if there's to be additional installation.

2787
04:04:24,160 --> 04:04:30,180
The woman also spoke about Tesla's as Emily has put down the past, we're talking about

2788
04:04:30,180 --> 04:04:31,540
30,000 Tesla's.

2789
04:04:31,580 --> 04:04:36,020
There is a fundamental difference between Tesla's and industrial scale batteries.

2790
04:04:37,000 --> 04:04:40,320
Finally, I'd like to ask you to review our slide deck.

2791
04:04:40,320 --> 04:04:45,440
It wasn't advancing, I'd like to ask each of the board members to take a look at that.

2792
04:04:45,600 --> 04:04:47,420
There's a lot of very important information in there.

2793
04:04:47,740 --> 04:04:56,120
We have great concerns with the contractors hired by Guestra calling the shots upon which the EPA and DTSSC are relying.

2794
04:04:57,300 --> 04:04:58,560
We also have a proposal.

2795
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:15,200
Thank you for that for a citizens commission to work with government staff on the creation of the ordinance. I hope it's clear after today that the knowledge in this community among citizens about what happened and how it happened is enormous.

2796
04:05:15,700 --> 04:05:19,500
And we should be involved in that process. Thank you again for your time today.

2797
04:05:27,310 --> 04:05:30,730
Okay, thank you. And next up we have David Prina.

2798
04:05:33,060 --> 04:05:37,100
Hi, thank you. My name is David Prina. I'm a resident of Prumdale, and I'm right now

2799
04:05:37,100 --> 04:05:42,320
I'm looking at the stacks from my house. I just wanted to thank you everybody for the presentation

2800
04:05:42,320 --> 04:05:46,920
on the study results. I'm sure with time we'll get closer to the truth and I hope we can figure

2801
04:05:46,920 --> 04:05:51,920
out exactly what everyone needs. I'm calling mostly because I wanted to say that I support

2802
04:05:51,920 --> 04:05:57,060
battery deployment as a way to get to a zero carbon future and a zero pollution future. I think it's

2803
04:05:57,060 --> 04:06:06,180
a luge technology, but we have to get it right and batteries are going to be incredibly important

2804
04:06:06,180 --> 04:06:13,620
because as an alternative to fossil fuels, they're really indispensable. As you know, fossil fuels

2805
04:06:14,180 --> 04:06:19,680
as the alternative spew deadly pollutants every day just to operate, just switching them on.

2806
04:06:19,880 --> 04:06:26,860
So batteries really are a way to transition the country from high pollution to

2807
04:06:26,860 --> 04:06:37,280
solution. But I do also support increased safety ordinances. As well as things are engineered,

2808
04:06:37,720 --> 04:06:42,220
failures definitely will happen. We can't control everything from the quality of product

2809
04:06:42,220 --> 04:06:48,440
up to their operation. I would just hope that any ordinances that we have will ensure that things

2810
04:06:48,440 --> 04:06:55,260
when they do fail fail safe and not in a catastrophic way. And if they do smell fail, they fail

2811
04:06:55,260 --> 04:06:58,680
they fail small and not in a huge way.

2812
04:06:59,000 --> 04:07:03,000
And I would also hope that any ordinance that you do consider will ensure that emergency services

2813
04:07:03,000 --> 04:07:08,620
really do have the tools that are matched to the battery chemistry and the engineering of any particular

2814
04:07:08,620 --> 04:07:09,680
battery facility.

2815
04:07:10,160 --> 04:07:11,280
So, thank you so much.

2816
04:07:13,520 --> 04:07:14,100
Thank you.

2817
04:07:14,320 --> 04:07:15,640
There are no more hands raised.

2818
04:07:15,840 --> 04:07:17,200
So, I'm going to close public comment.

2819
04:07:18,160 --> 04:07:19,120
We have one more in the audience.

2820
04:07:19,540 --> 04:07:20,720
We'll get our last.

2821
04:07:21,300 --> 04:07:21,800
Oh, I'm sorry.

2822
04:07:21,820 --> 04:07:24,420
We already spoke that we don't speak again, but thank you.

2823
04:07:24,480 --> 04:07:25,560
I just want to say we don't.

2824
04:07:25,920 --> 04:07:26,200
We don't.

2825
04:07:26,200 --> 04:07:27,200
to talk about.

2826
04:07:27,600 --> 04:07:28,420
Thank you very much.

2827
04:07:29,260 --> 04:07:29,740
I'm sorry.

2828
04:07:30,460 --> 04:07:33,080
We're going to move on to the board discussion now.

2829
04:07:33,560 --> 04:07:34,300
Thank you.

2830
04:07:34,860 --> 04:07:35,360
Thank you.

2831
04:07:36,500 --> 04:07:37,200
Thank you.

2832
04:07:39,080 --> 04:07:43,460
And I do just as we work really hard to maintain decorum in the chambers amongst ourselves.

2833
04:07:43,760 --> 04:07:47,500
And with the audience, we have processes for public comment.

2834
04:07:48,100 --> 04:07:50,160
And it is hard to interrupt people when they're talking.

2835
04:07:50,360 --> 04:07:54,200
But we want to make sure everyone has time and that we follow our process.

2836
04:07:54,200 --> 04:07:55,300
So thank you all for being here.

2837
04:07:55,480 --> 04:07:57,000
Thank you everyone for your public comment.

2838
04:07:57,400 --> 04:07:59,180
We're going to bring it back to the board for questions

2839
04:07:59,180 --> 04:08:02,420
and discussion and I'll start with Supervisor Charge.

2840
04:08:04,200 --> 04:08:05,080
Thank you.

2841
04:08:06,100 --> 04:08:10,280
I want to thank everybody who's done a presentation today

2842
04:08:10,920 --> 04:08:15,160
from the county officials to the state that we're going

2843
04:08:15,160 --> 04:08:19,300
to ask for the TTSC member.

2844
04:08:19,760 --> 04:08:23,320
I know there's this is a situation

2845
04:08:23,320 --> 04:08:30,480
that is, to this magnitude is not happened before, so there's a lot of, so a lot that

2846
04:08:30,480 --> 04:08:36,080
everyone is, as learning news, we go through this process out of that and, and, and on

2847
04:08:36,080 --> 04:08:41,520
I understand from, from the DTSC, you know, we have some of the top environmental scientists

2848
04:08:41,520 --> 04:08:46,200
of sure in, in the state here, and you want to move cautiously. I know we also have some

2849
04:08:46,200 --> 04:08:52,160
of the top marine scientists in the world over and most landing. And, the difference

2850
04:08:52,160 --> 04:08:59,440
the presentations are rather stark, at least as I see it here and as the conclusions come down to

2851
04:08:59,440 --> 04:09:07,460
there. But I guess I first question really starts off with the DTSC here and I know I think

2852
04:09:07,460 --> 04:09:13,380
was May 8 is when you're saying phase 1 started on the testing but I did not hear any mention

2853
04:09:13,380 --> 04:09:23,340
the testing was done January 24th when the DTSC went out and the conducted soil screening

2854
04:09:23,340 --> 04:09:30,320
collected soil and surface water samples for a lab analysis. On the January 31st that

2855
04:09:30,320 --> 04:09:34,660
was reported back and I believe that that point there was some initial surface

2856
04:09:34,660 --> 04:09:43,360
screenings of ash and debris that detected elevated levels of metals which would

2857
04:09:43,360 --> 04:09:50,680
reported. And then on February 2012, there was more details presented. And that was included

2858
04:09:50,680 --> 04:09:54,880
the subsequent soil samples, which I believe, and maybe you can tell me how deep you

2859
04:09:54,880 --> 04:09:58,520
dig into the ground. But I believe it was going down six inches, eight inches.

2860
04:10:00,520 --> 04:10:09,400
Exactly what? And I believe that was reported back then, as not elevated levels, which would make sense.

2861
04:10:10,000 --> 04:10:20,300
But I did not hear that that was particular, particular information presented. And I wonder why, and if you could give me some information on why that was not presented.

2862
04:10:20,680 --> 04:10:29,820
And it's actually how you conducted, how deep you had conducted those soil tests. And why you would go down so deep when it was just a week after the event.

2863
04:10:29,820 --> 04:10:32,560
And there had been no rain until after the 24th.

2864
04:10:32,680 --> 04:10:33,580
Thank you.

2865
04:10:37,070 --> 04:10:39,070
Thank you, Super Visitor, to for that question.

2866
04:10:40,210 --> 04:10:42,450
I could just, because you're really more left for the GTSC.

2867
04:10:42,550 --> 04:10:42,910
Absolutely.

2868
04:10:43,990 --> 04:10:48,030
I'm kind of trying to triage questions to make sure

2869
04:10:48,030 --> 04:10:50,350
that we get it to the right agency based on your questions.

2870
04:10:50,610 --> 04:10:54,950
But absolutely, I will go ahead and turn it over to DTSC to respond.

2871
04:11:03,890 --> 04:11:05,270
This is the way to white.

2872
04:11:06,630 --> 04:11:07,870
So I'll try to take a stab at it.

2873
04:11:07,870 --> 04:11:13,610
So we were asked, first of all, it took me a month to just give a presentation on a P.E.A.

2874
04:11:13,630 --> 04:11:14,170
on the draft.

2875
04:11:14,610 --> 04:11:17,010
And that's where we were developed for presentations for.

2876
04:11:17,810 --> 04:11:23,170
So to our correct that DTSC, what I would collect is some water samples, and using nature

2877
04:11:23,170 --> 04:11:27,170
up, collect is some soil samples roughly a week after the fire incident.

2878
04:11:29,010 --> 04:11:36,810
Originally, those extra samples came back high, but we also took the analytical using a lab.

2879
04:11:36,810 --> 04:11:43,010
And what's got the analytical, that same location is show that they were much lower results.

2880
04:11:46,100 --> 04:11:47,420
I have to ask your question.

2881
04:11:48,240 --> 04:11:50,520
We don't know who this is.

2882
04:11:50,720 --> 04:11:52,940
My name is Duane Way from DTSC.

2883
04:11:53,580 --> 04:11:55,120
You did not do a presentation earlier.

2884
04:11:55,440 --> 04:11:58,420
I don't know why you're on now, but I guess that's fine.

2885
04:11:58,620 --> 04:11:59,560
You're with DTSC.

2886
04:12:01,700 --> 04:12:04,360
You didn't explain to me how deep you went to the ground,

2887
04:12:04,500 --> 04:12:05,300
which was my question.

2888
04:12:05,300 --> 04:12:11,680
I'm trying to understand how deep the testing was, but I also asked why those results were presented

2889
04:12:11,680 --> 04:12:14,040
along with the rest here today.

2890
04:12:15,220 --> 04:12:18,680
Those are initial results which would have been highly significant, at least to my view,

2891
04:12:18,900 --> 04:12:21,820
and it's a lot more significant than those down on May 8th.

2892
04:12:22,720 --> 04:12:23,400
So, Shane,

2893
04:12:25,940 --> 04:12:30,220
do you want to discuss why your file is not included in the presentation?

2894
04:12:32,770 --> 04:12:33,510
Yes, please.

2895
04:12:37,970 --> 04:12:42,830
So, this is Wei Ying and I'm from DTSC and I'm a toxicologist.

2896
04:12:43,830 --> 04:12:54,910
So, my role for this file is to understand the chemicals remaining at the site.

2897
04:12:54,910 --> 04:12:59,390
long-term health effects from long-term exfoliators.

2898
04:12:59,930 --> 04:13:05,390
So for those soil samples, they were collected from zero to six inch,

2899
04:13:05,410 --> 04:13:08,150
they're two, they're 0.5 feet below ground surface.

2900
04:13:08,510 --> 04:13:10,910
So that's how the soil samples were collected.

2901
04:13:12,730 --> 04:13:16,130
And we use that to represent the concentrations

2902
04:13:16,130 --> 04:13:22,250
of a resident may contact for four long time and 26 years specifically.

2903
04:13:24,330 --> 04:13:30,530
Okay, so you don't have an answer for my question about the January 24 testing, as I'm

2904
04:13:30,530 --> 04:13:31,790
much saying correct?

2905
04:13:33,250 --> 04:13:45,210
I did not review that data, but as what I mentioned is those data may not be appropriate for

2906
04:13:45,210 --> 04:13:56,230
chronic risk assessments as what is also noted in the paper. You will see a quick decline

2907
04:13:56,230 --> 04:14:01,590
of the concentrations because of the natural dilution process such as the rainfall.

2908
04:14:03,610 --> 04:14:08,330
All right. I understand that a week after is not going to give the chronic assessment,

2909
04:14:08,870 --> 04:14:15,190
but it's very significant environmental and health information for the community and for the

2910
04:14:15,190 --> 04:14:20,810
was tested then. But I understand you're actually going to be giving me that information today.

2911
04:14:22,450 --> 04:14:28,210
Because that's not something that you had studied or presented. I would hope that maybe

2912
04:14:28,210 --> 04:14:34,890
the DTSC can at some point give us information on this. Because that seems to be a real critical part

2913
04:14:34,890 --> 04:14:39,530
and from what I can read from what moderate county has up on its website.

2914
04:14:39,530 --> 04:14:45,950
Just the one sentence that there is for this actually seems to align a great deal with

2915
04:14:45,950 --> 04:14:55,150
Invers information so it would be helpful to know it's kind of I don't know I'm just

2916
04:14:55,150 --> 04:14:58,670
just shocked frankly that if we don't have that information here it seems to be

2917
04:15:01,100 --> 04:15:20,100
Could you give me, I don't know, this is either for Amber Ms. Watson or anybody in the state, but where's reference to the die-off on the mosquitoes that happen shortly after, have we determined exactly what caused that die-off? Anybody?

2918
04:15:24,990 --> 04:15:31,950
Ms. Lawson Shaker had no. So, and I'm assuming this, unless you have something to offer on that, the state probably doesn't know either.

2919
04:15:31,950 --> 04:15:44,950
I did find it really interesting that when the reference was made to this flakey substances that were found which have never been found prior to the fire or since then that none of those were ever really picked up.

2920
04:15:46,990 --> 04:15:54,330
It was, I know when the January 24th testing was done that was prevalent in a lot of places.

2921
04:15:55,930 --> 04:15:59,830
And so you had that information from those early studies.

2922
04:16:00,130 --> 04:16:01,810
It wasn't there when it comes around by May.

2923
04:16:01,930 --> 04:16:02,510
I don't believe.

2924
04:16:05,010 --> 04:16:07,350
So it would be interesting to know if there ever was any study

2925
04:16:07,350 --> 04:16:09,470
as that was done on that as well.

2926
04:16:11,370 --> 04:16:14,470
And the reference to it is kind of, as I say,

2927
04:16:14,690 --> 04:16:16,590
it's interesting, but that it was there.

2928
04:16:16,810 --> 04:16:18,890
But nothing was ever done to attest that,

2929
04:16:18,890 --> 04:16:21,330
because that would be some high concentrations as well.

2930
04:16:21,330 --> 04:16:26,610
So, I mean, I'm trying to move on, and I'll try to move on to something I hope that can answer

2931
04:16:26,610 --> 04:16:33,290
in terms more of chronic, but that would be actually the question that Mr. Steinburner

2932
04:16:33,290 --> 04:16:34,810
raised about the cobalt.

2933
04:16:35,070 --> 04:16:41,130
I noticed that there was cobalt testing that was done in, well, cobalt is not nearly as

2934
04:16:41,130 --> 04:16:42,170
carcinogenic as nickel.

2935
04:16:42,810 --> 04:16:45,390
It's probably carcinogenic to humans, so I understand it.

2936
04:16:45,390 --> 04:16:46,530
I do not see it.

2937
04:16:46,530 --> 04:16:49,110
It wasn't listed in the step one hazard identification.

2938
04:16:49,110 --> 04:16:53,970
was there a reason it wasn't put inside there and that was on the health presentation.

2939
04:16:54,430 --> 04:16:56,170
I think we're just drawing.

2940
04:17:05,290 --> 04:17:05,450
Bye.

2941
04:17:06,670 --> 04:17:14,350
So this is me again for your, so make sure I understand you are questioning about whether we

2942
04:17:14,350 --> 04:17:17,970
conferred, kind of for a potential, kind of for a strong co-balk.

2943
04:17:18,210 --> 04:17:18,730
Is that correct?

2944
04:17:19,090 --> 04:17:23,290
Yeah, I just didn't see it mentioned, so I just was curious, was just admitted from that

2945
04:17:23,290 --> 04:17:25,970
page or if you, you know, did consider it.

2946
04:17:27,410 --> 04:17:30,010
Yes, we did consider it.

2947
04:17:30,390 --> 04:17:34,470
Cobalt has both cancer and non-Center house effects.

2948
04:17:35,150 --> 04:17:38,850
And we consider both when and evaluating the soil

2949
04:17:38,850 --> 04:17:41,770
concentrations and water.

2950
04:17:43,310 --> 04:17:44,110
All right, thank you.

2951
04:17:45,010 --> 04:17:48,910
And since we don't have a lot of information on this,

2952
04:17:49,010 --> 04:17:53,190
see this initial testing, I can get a couple other questions

2953
04:17:53,190 --> 04:17:54,850
here to do.

2954
04:17:54,850 --> 04:18:07,210
And one, I'm going to, one's going to be for environmental one's going to be for health and I'll let whoever is here for our health department to stay to Amber answer that.

2955
04:18:09,990 --> 04:18:16,630
But I know the DTSC is saying that there is no chronic concerns.

2956
04:18:17,410 --> 04:18:25,870
I wonder if we have, you know, can speak with any, um, at the same kind of clarity, if we're

2957
04:18:25,870 --> 04:18:28,450
talking about compromised individuals.

2958
04:18:29,330 --> 04:18:31,730
I remember a week after the fire was here.

2959
04:18:32,070 --> 04:18:39,610
There was a gentleman who, who, who tested, gave testimony here and he spoke about, he said

2960
04:18:39,610 --> 04:18:40,470
an asthma issues.

2961
04:18:40,650 --> 04:18:46,050
He said he had gone to the hospital twice because of the fire and, um, so I wonder, might

2962
04:18:46,050 --> 04:18:57,250
be looking at chronically at that just at any kind of health aspect with how this may affect

2963
04:18:57,250 --> 04:19:04,070
normal healthy people. I'm wondering about those with the immune compromised other kind

2964
04:19:04,070 --> 04:19:07,050
of health conditions, would that have any difference upon them?

2965
04:19:11,760 --> 04:19:20,440
I appreciate that question. So when we conduct the health risk assessment from chronic

2966
04:19:20,440 --> 04:19:28,700
exposures, we did consider the most sensitive sample population within the whole human population.

2967
04:19:29,500 --> 04:19:35,600
So to your question, yes, we did consider that, but that's what I want to say is this is

2968
04:19:35,600 --> 04:19:43,660
based on chronic exposure. So it's based on the concentrations what we found after the fire in the soil.

2969
04:19:43,660 --> 04:19:48,380
With regarding potential health effects due to exposure,

2970
04:19:49,080 --> 04:19:52,180
shortly during or shortly after the fire unfortunately,

2971
04:19:53,940 --> 04:19:56,060
we don't have the data for that assessment.

2972
04:19:56,820 --> 04:19:58,660
So we don't have the soil data and work.

2973
04:20:01,650 --> 04:20:06,550
Okay, sure the data must be somewhere from the January 24 test, but thank you for that.

2974
04:20:06,550 --> 04:20:12,310
My last question here, then, and hopefully, maybe, Amber and the State can both answer this,

2975
04:20:12,490 --> 04:20:18,610
but it would seem as, you know, as what would happen in the weeks and the months after that,

2976
04:20:18,690 --> 04:20:24,990
the real concerns with this are a potential concentrations into the sediment along the Elkorn slew,

2977
04:20:25,610 --> 04:20:32,710
which would be much because of a title action and another environmental actions would be much

2978
04:20:32,710 --> 04:20:37,890
different than it would be probably into the an air-open fields away from the slew.

2979
04:20:38,150 --> 04:20:44,310
So my question would be if did we know if the materials that excuse me if the metals accumulated

2980
04:20:44,310 --> 04:20:54,730
in the sediments at levels that could possibly move through the food chain and I would

2981
04:20:54,730 --> 04:20:56,370
that is a possibility of

2982
04:21:06,060 --> 04:21:08,280
our land DTSC Egoriske.

2983
04:21:09,020 --> 04:21:12,260
So based on the screen and results that were presented

2984
04:21:12,940 --> 04:21:16,820
and the draft PEA report, there are not at concentrations

2985
04:21:16,820 --> 04:21:20,100
that could result in the accumulation that would result

2986
04:21:20,100 --> 04:21:22,940
in adverse effects, but this is something

2987
04:21:22,940 --> 04:21:25,140
that we are looking into as part of our review.

2988
04:21:25,300 --> 04:21:26,220
I appreciate the question.

2989
04:21:26,660 --> 04:21:27,400
Thank you.

2990
04:21:29,480 --> 04:21:33,740
Yeah, and again, to clarify a cumulative approach

2991
04:21:33,740 --> 04:21:40,420
where you look at a six inch core makes sense if you're looking at a factor that has an effected

2992
04:21:40,420 --> 04:21:46,180
in an area for decades. Like if you were asking the question, how has the power plant affected

2993
04:21:46,180 --> 04:21:51,740
sediment concentrations in the soil or human health over the past 25 years, you know, then

2994
04:21:51,740 --> 04:21:57,440
you want to look at a six inch core, maybe what we're looking at is a one-time deposition event

2995
04:21:57,440 --> 04:22:03,100
a fallout layer that's just one to three millimeter thick we measured. So it makes no sense to

2996
04:22:03,100 --> 04:22:06,460
space assessments on six inches.

2997
04:22:06,840 --> 04:22:09,560
In terms of, yes, the concentrations are certainly high enough

2998
04:22:09,560 --> 04:22:13,340
to pose a possible concern for the biotic life downstream.

2999
04:22:13,580 --> 04:22:15,580
We were focused on measuring Hester Marsh

3000
04:22:15,580 --> 04:22:18,140
because we're restoration scientists at this wetlands.

3001
04:22:18,240 --> 04:22:19,680
So that was our geographic focus.

3002
04:22:20,040 --> 04:22:26,020
The concentrations, that's about a meter to two meters above,

3003
04:22:26,020 --> 04:22:28,840
mean lower low water above the low watermark,

3004
04:22:29,440 --> 04:22:31,320
where we were measuring these high concentrations

3005
04:22:31,320 --> 04:22:39,140
after the rains that moved downstream, potentially, into the estuary, those metals could be bio-accumulated

3006
04:22:39,140 --> 04:22:43,200
if they became bio-available and could cause problems in the organisms.

3007
04:22:44,420 --> 04:22:50,420
I just, we haven't seen anything alarming yet in the initial biological results we've analyzed,

3008
04:22:51,160 --> 04:22:56,500
but I would urge you to take a conservative, cautious approach where one looks at many species

3009
04:22:56,500 --> 04:23:00,620
collected over many dates, bio-accumulation up the food web can take a long time,

3010
04:23:00,620 --> 04:23:06,780
and reach no conclusions until there have been such thorough bio-cumulation studies.

3011
04:23:06,980 --> 04:23:08,600
All right, thank you for that.

3012
04:23:09,140 --> 04:23:14,680
And I think all the information we've seen here today is going to be really helpful as the county develops an ordinance going forward.

3013
04:23:15,360 --> 04:23:16,060
And I know the key.

3014
04:23:16,620 --> 04:23:17,480
You have to see more about that.

3015
04:23:17,640 --> 04:23:18,980
Thank you, Supervisor Church.

3016
04:23:19,080 --> 04:23:29,560
I just wanted to give the Regional Water Board an opportunity to provide a brief update on the updated sampling work plan that they're pursuing with Vistra.

3017
04:23:29,560 --> 04:23:31,640
And we have Greg Bishop on the line.

3018
04:23:33,530 --> 04:23:34,450
Good afternoon.

3019
04:23:34,770 --> 04:23:35,450
As Nicky Planner.

3020
04:23:35,630 --> 04:23:37,750
Not I'm Greg Bishop with the Citragost Waterboard.

3021
04:23:39,490 --> 04:23:41,550
And I believe you can hear me.

3022
04:23:41,550 --> 04:23:43,290
I'm sorry just to do a double check.

3023
04:23:46,090 --> 04:23:46,910
We can hear you.

3024
04:23:47,590 --> 04:23:48,010
All right.

3025
04:23:48,130 --> 04:23:48,390
Thank you.

3026
04:23:48,490 --> 04:23:50,150
I saw some weird messaging on mine.

3027
04:23:50,410 --> 04:23:52,110
I'm Greg Bishop with the Citragost Waterboard.

3028
04:23:52,210 --> 04:23:53,130
I'm a hydrogeologist.

3029
04:23:53,310 --> 04:23:57,510
And I manage the section that includes our site cleanup program that pursues investigation.

3030
04:23:58,410 --> 04:24:02,110
And clean up sites throughout our area including the Monterey area.

3031
04:24:02,890 --> 04:24:10,330
In addition to the work you've been hearing about for the human and ecological risk assessment,

3032
04:24:10,330 --> 04:24:13,490
we've directed some investigations of Vistra.

3033
04:24:14,130 --> 04:24:17,530
Three of them, in fact, three separate orders we issued to Vistra.

3034
04:24:17,790 --> 04:24:21,810
One was just a profile of some stored stormwater in what was called Pond 3,

3035
04:24:21,910 --> 04:24:25,830
to give us a better sense of the contaminant of concern,

3036
04:24:26,210 --> 04:24:31,170
and that's something that has been satisfied and completed many months back.

3037
04:24:31,170 --> 04:24:34,430
And two other orders are still underway.

3038
04:24:35,730 --> 04:24:38,890
One is assessing groundwater at the area.

3039
04:24:39,110 --> 04:24:45,190
There's a gravelier sandy area, just adjacent to the building that barn, Mosslining 300,

3040
04:24:46,030 --> 04:24:51,030
where news coverage showed it flooded during the fire.

3041
04:24:51,470 --> 04:24:58,110
So fire water was applied via sprinklers and so forth and ran off into the sandy area.

3042
04:24:58,110 --> 04:24:58,670
And

3043
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:10,840
So that water would just infiltrate straight in. We're concerned about those groundwater impacts. If it might be moving toward the harbor only 400 feet away and perhaps even upwelling into that eventually.

3044
04:25:11,560 --> 04:25:20,780
We don't think that would have occurred by now, and we have some challenges getting in there now that we can solve those with the battery still there and safety issues going and drilling and so forth.

3045
04:25:20,780 --> 04:25:22,940
that is moving forward though.

3046
04:25:23,240 --> 04:25:26,040
The other one that I think is more of your question about

3047
04:25:26,040 --> 04:25:30,340
would there be accumulation in the sediments in the slew, for example,

3048
04:25:30,740 --> 04:25:34,180
and we're interested in other water bodies like the harbor and so forth too.

3049
04:25:34,800 --> 04:25:39,620
We've issued a third order that to a certain extent overlaps with the

3050
04:25:39,620 --> 04:25:43,280
investigation scope for the risk assessment you've been hearing about,

3051
04:25:43,640 --> 04:25:44,900
but it's broader than scope.

3052
04:25:45,020 --> 04:25:46,780
It covers a brighter range of analyze.

3053
04:25:47,440 --> 04:25:48,900
We want to see all the metals.

3054
04:25:48,900 --> 04:25:53,360
There were electronics in the fire tube, two substantials, and not just the batteries, for example.

3055
04:25:54,000 --> 04:25:59,760
We want to see all the directions and theorems and the PHs reported not just those with toxicity data.

3056
04:26:01,200 --> 04:26:03,460
And we have other analysts we're interested in too.

3057
04:26:03,920 --> 04:26:08,100
We're concerned about where all of the aerial deposition occurred.

3058
04:26:08,760 --> 04:26:18,580
One of the map you saw earlier showed really just a map footprint, which is much smaller than the footprint where all the debris like ash and so forth.

3059
04:26:18,580 --> 04:26:25,180
might have fallen, so we're interested in that, we're interested in where those sediments ran

3060
04:26:25,180 --> 04:26:29,480
off too, so we're they got deposited, and then where with all the heavy rains did that go,

3061
04:26:30,540 --> 04:26:36,560
did it go to El Cornflue, did it go to some other water body, is it left on on the surface,

3062
04:26:36,560 --> 04:26:41,020
you know, midway transport, at some point, it's not getting directly out of your question about

3063
04:26:41,020 --> 04:26:44,400
measurements of my accumulation, but it is getting answer to a question about

3064
04:26:44,400 --> 04:26:52,280
And more broadly, I think, of do we expect an accumulation of impacts in those water bodies?

3065
04:26:53,240 --> 04:26:58,260
And so, our orders are focused on, again, assessing where it all fell from aerial deposition,

3066
04:26:58,920 --> 04:27:02,260
where it transported through stormwater, runoff and so forth.

3067
04:27:02,760 --> 04:27:06,160
And where it is in the various water bodies in the area.

3068
04:27:06,160 --> 04:27:14,100
It has, that information would inform a couple of different decisions for us down the road.

3069
04:27:15,020 --> 04:27:22,240
Knowing that full assessment gives us insight to whether it can, does it, does something need to be done about it?

3070
04:27:22,660 --> 04:27:27,020
And also judging the feasibility of can something be done about it.

3071
04:27:27,040 --> 04:27:30,680
There's different balances of those are delicate ecosystems versus,

3072
04:27:30,680 --> 04:27:35,080
I'm going in and stirring up the impacts that may be there.

3073
04:27:35,100 --> 04:27:38,600
There's some practical things to consider.

3074
04:27:39,180 --> 04:27:41,660
Do those impacts eventually reach the hardware,

3075
04:27:41,780 --> 04:27:45,080
just say through transport through this loose, for example.

3076
04:27:45,600 --> 04:27:48,760
The hardware gets stretched regularly or periodically anyway.

3077
04:27:49,600 --> 04:27:52,640
And if we see those impacts showing to the hardware,

3078
04:27:52,780 --> 04:27:56,860
eventually that is implications for how all the materials handle and so forth.

3079
04:27:56,860 --> 04:27:59,440
So, there are other investigations we're pushing.

3080
04:28:00,240 --> 04:28:03,260
It's very much focused on, I'm kind of the watershed scale.

3081
04:28:03,760 --> 04:28:07,640
Look at things where it all fell, where it's winding up,

3082
04:28:07,680 --> 04:28:11,040
and we expect to plan for Vista now on that,

3083
04:28:11,420 --> 04:28:16,280
or revise plan without one already that we ask for refinements on in about two months.

3084
04:28:20,870 --> 04:28:21,450
Great, thank you.

3085
04:28:21,590 --> 04:28:22,710
Does that all affect?

3086
04:28:25,990 --> 04:28:27,210
No questions on mine.

3087
04:28:27,370 --> 04:28:31,110
I think all I want to share is I really appreciate the continuing engagement

3088
04:28:31,110 --> 04:28:35,830
from community. Leslie Austin's letter. I read everything folks and then I don't sleep well.

3089
04:28:36,170 --> 04:28:40,610
So, I mean, I stay up really late at night reading everybody's input and all the reports

3090
04:28:40,610 --> 04:28:44,990
that come in and I want to thank Leslie for her letter last night and it came in late to me.

3091
04:28:44,990 --> 04:28:51,090
She texted me, let me know. It was on its way. I found a lot in that, which was truth in that.

3092
04:28:51,130 --> 04:28:55,750
We're talking past each other a lot and how things were conducted at the initial outset

3093
04:28:55,750 --> 04:28:59,530
that we're all conflicted over, how to proceed, given that we don't have matching

3094
04:28:59,530 --> 04:29:04,090
data sets. I just agree with that piece so much and it sounds like in the questions we're

3095
04:29:04,090 --> 04:29:08,870
asking about methodologies and approaches and data sets. I don't know that we're ever going

3096
04:29:08,870 --> 04:29:16,150
to come to a point where we're agreeing on how, but as we continue to try to work towards that

3097
04:29:16,150 --> 04:29:21,670
together knowing that there's so many different approaches on agencies, we're hearing waterboards

3098
04:29:21,670 --> 04:29:27,870
and DTSC of County EPA. I just appreciate everybody's continuing engagement because that's how we

3099
04:29:27,870 --> 04:29:33,370
to a point where we can agree on what to disagree on and match data sets to the extent that

3100
04:29:33,370 --> 04:29:38,130
we can and try to move forward with the best science possible on all this will inform the

3101
04:29:38,130 --> 04:29:42,610
process that we've committed to as a board which is to develop a future ordinance. And these

3102
04:29:42,610 --> 04:29:47,570
lessons, these blind spots, and also these places where perhaps we're not talking about anymore

3103
04:29:47,570 --> 04:29:53,230
because we had agreement will help inform that process. So I want to thank everybody for continuing

3104
04:29:53,230 --> 04:29:58,670
do engage in this as emotional as it can be, and especially heart-felt from so many.

3105
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:07,660
To give us input, give us thoughts, even your frustration, it matters. And I would appreciate it. So thank you. Thank you, Minister.

3106
04:30:09,790 --> 04:30:18,170
Thank you. So I think this question is for environmental health and the county, but I would, you know, welcome the response from

3107
04:30:18,170 --> 04:30:26,190
member or anyone else. I am trying to understand very clearly whether the DTSC,

3108
04:30:26,250 --> 04:30:34,170
Ember, and environmental health are asking the same questions and looking for the same things.

3109
04:30:39,720 --> 04:30:44,760
Thank you, Supervisor Daniels for your question. I will do my best to explain and then I would

3110
04:30:44,760 --> 04:30:52,600
like to turn it over to DTSC to correct me if I've mistreated anything. But ultimately the community

3111
04:30:52,600 --> 04:30:58,160
sampling plan that the county directed was designed to evaluate risk not to fully

3112
04:30:58,160 --> 04:31:03,560
delineate the extent or mass of deposition that occurred. And that's my

3113
04:31:03,560 --> 04:31:07,180
understanding of really what the San Jose State University and

3114
04:31:07,180 --> 04:31:12,980
Burst Studies are looking at. So ultimately there are, you know, pretty distinct

3115
04:31:12,980 --> 04:31:21,940
differences between timing, sampling methodology, analytical techniques that have

3116
04:31:21,940 --> 04:31:24,920
produce different data rather than contradicting data sets?

3117
04:31:25,580 --> 04:31:27,900
So I won't ask the next question in the form of the question.

3118
04:31:28,040 --> 04:31:29,820
I'll just say it to cut to the point.

3119
04:31:30,340 --> 04:31:32,560
Is it they could both be right then?

3120
04:31:32,800 --> 04:31:33,540
Is that accurate?

3121
04:31:34,540 --> 04:31:36,320
That's my understanding, yes.

3122
04:31:36,720 --> 04:31:36,740
OK.

3123
04:31:37,260 --> 04:31:45,920
So then moving from that point, I would like to see work

3124
04:31:47,020 --> 04:31:50,940
concluded that answers the question, whether the contamination

3125
04:31:50,940 --> 04:31:57,840
and that was documented in the Ember study is going to cause lasting harm to the Elporn

3126
04:31:57,840 --> 04:31:58,920
SLU ecosystem.

3127
04:32:01,440 --> 04:32:06,660
Is there work that we can direct to ensure that it gets done?

3128
04:32:08,770 --> 04:32:15,370
Thank you for that question, Supervisor Daniels, and if I may, Mike Garland, with DTSC

3129
04:32:15,370 --> 04:32:18,570
Are you able to respond to that?

3130
04:32:29,030 --> 04:32:31,630
I'm just to clarify your question.

3131
04:32:33,470 --> 04:32:43,730
Are you suggesting work that's collaborative in nature with the Ember group using those data for risk assessment purposes?

3132
04:32:44,150 --> 04:32:45,130
Could you clarify please?

3133
04:32:45,910 --> 04:32:53,430
I think a good first step would be if you could respond in writing to Ember's point that was raised

3134
04:32:53,430 --> 04:33:01,690
that the sampling design that you utilized wasn't capable of detecting what Amber found.

3135
04:33:01,890 --> 04:33:09,010
Is that something that DTSC could do is to formally respond in writing to that point that was raised?

3136
04:33:12,220 --> 04:33:18,780
On matters of interagency or interagency communications, I defer to a project management on accomplishing that,

3137
04:33:18,780 --> 04:33:26,260
from a technical standpoint. I have no problem providing my technical input on any of the results

3138
04:33:26,260 --> 04:33:30,340
that were discussed in presentations today. That would be great. I think that would be so helpful

3139
04:33:30,340 --> 04:33:41,500
to the county to have that response. And then another takeaway that the Amber presentation

3140
04:33:42,640 --> 04:33:48,320
provided at the end, I think it was the last slide, was that bioaccumulation can occur slowly

3141
04:33:48,320 --> 04:33:53,720
and unevenly. I'm curious if we, as a county, can require

3142
04:33:53,720 --> 04:33:57,860
vistra to fund independent biological monitoring for the

3143
04:33:57,860 --> 04:34:01,780
Elkorn slew with oversight by one of the institutions like

3144
04:34:01,780 --> 04:34:06,000
Embarry or Maslanding Marine Labs versus vistra's contractor.

3145
04:34:07,440 --> 04:34:11,740
I think it would be very beneficial to have this ongoing

3146
04:34:11,740 --> 04:34:15,820
research and I think the community would be more trusting if it came

3147
04:34:15,820 --> 04:34:18,000
from one of the well-renowned entities

3148
04:34:18,000 --> 04:34:19,820
that we have right here in Monterey County.

3149
04:34:21,660 --> 04:34:23,140
I don't know who can answer that question.

3150
04:34:24,540 --> 04:34:26,300
I guess I'll wait, it could be direction.

3151
04:34:27,320 --> 04:34:30,580
If my colleagues can curve, I have another question,

3152
04:34:30,680 --> 04:34:31,460
I'll just move on then.

3153
04:34:31,560 --> 04:34:32,040
Thank you.

3154
04:34:32,560 --> 04:34:35,280
Okay, another question I had because it came up,

3155
04:34:35,280 --> 04:34:37,580
oh yes, please, first chance.

3156
04:34:37,940 --> 04:34:40,320
I just wanted to say, I thought that was a great question

3157
04:34:40,320 --> 04:34:42,440
you asked about, like, can it both be right?

3158
04:34:42,580 --> 04:34:44,020
And I think that's exactly it is.

3159
04:34:44,140 --> 04:34:45,540
We were using different methods.

3160
04:34:45,540 --> 04:34:50,580
were all learning here. We've never faced a battery fire. And yeah, I don't think there's

3161
04:34:50,580 --> 04:34:56,000
really a contradiction in results. There were, it was a contradiction in methods and approaches.

3162
04:34:56,000 --> 04:34:58,660
and I think, you know, the way you say it.

3163
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:06,440
We synthesize that all, so I don't think it needs to be an either or approach what I would encourage

3164
04:35:06,980 --> 04:35:11,840
the county in their report and the state in their report is just to synthesize all the findings.

3165
04:35:12,440 --> 04:35:17,320
And one could even use different data sets for different scenarios like for the human health.

3166
04:35:17,700 --> 04:35:23,420
We have the concentrations we measured, not with a lab instrument, which isn't as accurate, but

3167
04:35:23,420 --> 04:35:27,620
we have the, I mean, not with a field instrument. We have the lab concentrations from the ICPMS of what

3168
04:35:27,620 --> 04:35:32,180
those concentrations in the surface are, run the health scenarios on that, run the, you know,

3169
04:35:32,180 --> 04:35:37,320
so you have a conservative and the not conservative health scenario. Why not use all the data

3170
04:35:37,320 --> 04:35:42,080
that are out there? Why not synthesize them all? Why not use them all? I don't think they're

3171
04:35:42,080 --> 04:35:43,980
contradictory. We just need to compile them.

3172
04:35:44,340 --> 04:35:49,300
Thank you, Dr. Watson. That's super helpful. A couple of just questions that came out of the

3173
04:35:49,300 --> 04:35:53,220
public comment. I'm curious if we have an update as to what's happening. I think it's

3174
04:35:54,020 --> 04:35:56,480
that's the other indoor facility that's on site.

3175
04:35:56,700 --> 04:36:01,600
Have we gotten any feedback from Vista in terms of their future plans for that indoor facility?

3176
04:36:06,130 --> 04:36:06,270
Yes.

3177
04:36:06,910 --> 04:36:08,590
Vista, the most 100 is the other.

3178
04:36:08,650 --> 04:36:14,750
It's a smaller indoor facility, but a couple weeks ago, Vista did say they will be not,

3179
04:36:14,830 --> 04:36:18,910
they'll be dismantling that and won't be going back online.

3180
04:36:19,270 --> 04:36:19,770
Great.

3181
04:36:19,910 --> 04:36:20,750
That is good news.

3182
04:36:20,930 --> 04:36:24,370
And then last question would be, is there an update on the creation of the ordinance?

3183
04:36:24,370 --> 04:36:29,090
We did hear from the public a desire for a citizen's commission that's engaged in this process.

3184
04:36:29,250 --> 04:36:35,030
I know I have seen some emails go across my inbox in terms of public meetings and outreach and

3185
04:36:35,030 --> 04:36:35,650
supervisor church.

3186
04:36:35,650 --> 04:36:36,570
Maybe you have an update.

3187
04:36:36,870 --> 04:36:43,450
There are from one I don't want to speak for Mr. Spencer entirely, but I know there's plans to

3188
04:36:43,450 --> 04:36:46,650
have some up to 20 meetings around and the first one is tomorrow night.

3189
04:36:46,650 --> 04:36:53,750
the Perindale Grange at 530, and I believe there are others planned, but I could let Craig

3190
04:36:53,750 --> 04:36:54,610
have that.

3191
04:36:55,170 --> 04:36:55,630
Great.

3192
04:36:55,850 --> 04:36:59,570
So the only thing outstanding in terms of my questions that was answered is, if there's

3193
04:36:59,570 --> 04:37:07,250
a way for us to direct this trust to fund the biological monitoring for the Alcorn Sly

3194
04:37:07,250 --> 04:37:12,110
that's ongoing, that would be super helpful versus, and have it be one of the entities

3195
04:37:12,110 --> 04:37:16,630
that is local and not associated with Fistra, that would be amazing.

3196
04:37:16,990 --> 04:37:21,690
We can send a formal request in writing either from the county administrators office or from

3197
04:37:21,690 --> 04:37:23,070
the board if you'd have a preference.

3198
04:37:23,570 --> 04:37:27,630
Okay, I'll let my colleagues decide, but I think that that would be a nice thing to do for

3199
04:37:27,630 --> 04:37:32,230
the community and for the ongoing understanding and protection of the Alcorn Slough.

3200
04:37:37,840 --> 04:37:42,760
Thank you for the presentation and for everybody who gave a participating in the presentation

3201
04:37:42,760 --> 04:37:48,380
on Zoom and here in the chamber and I certainly want to recognize all our Monterey County residents

3202
04:37:48,380 --> 04:37:53,200
and even those from our neighboring county for coming and participating and providing this

3203
04:37:53,200 --> 04:37:59,680
the input and I think as we all know this has been an ongoing concern and I think it's important for

3204
04:37:59,680 --> 04:38:06,160
our neighbors to be able to have their concerns adequately addressed by the science and by our policies

3205
04:38:06,160 --> 04:38:12,020
and our future policies that are coming as we are seeking to implement an ordinance and I think this

3206
04:38:12,020 --> 04:38:17,540
has really shown us that there's a lot to learn about this technology and I think also

3207
04:38:17,540 --> 04:38:22,000
learned a lot about how to best protect our communities, our neighborhoods, our homes,

3208
04:38:22,860 --> 04:38:30,520
and our beautiful coastline in our wildlife as well. All those are important to be able to protect

3209
04:38:30,520 --> 04:38:37,920
as we learn from the research that was being presented here today. I think it's also important to

3210
04:38:37,920 --> 04:38:53,240
And I'm glad to hear the Moss 100 won't be, I think that's something we've been insisting on that that technology not be continued to be used here in our county because of the disaster that we already saw and the great risk that we know that's associated with it.

3211
04:38:53,600 --> 04:38:57,680
And I think the industry itself has moved away from that technology altogether.

3212
04:38:58,820 --> 04:39:05,000
Also, I think it's important to come back with the ordinance that we're in process of doing to best

3213
04:39:05,680 --> 04:39:13,900
pride the local voice and the local input into an ordinance rather than defaulting to the California Energy Commission to make those decisions.

3214
04:39:14,000 --> 04:39:24,280
I think it's smarter when we have a say and have an ordinance and a policy that has been crafted with input from the community and I know that is coming back to us soon.

3215
04:39:24,280 --> 04:39:32,160
Also, what's already been said, some of the legislation that has been done, I think it's critical that the ordinance also moved to the safest technology.

3216
04:39:34,280 --> 04:39:37,540
But I think there's some of the folks commented as well.

3217
04:39:37,840 --> 04:39:48,200
We know that this technology is likely here to stay in California just because of the California environmental goals to reduce carbon emissions and its heavily investments in renewable energy.

3218
04:39:48,200 --> 04:39:55,600
all across the state and even trying to face out for a musing or selling new gas-powered vehicles

3219
04:39:55,600 --> 04:39:58,660
come 2035, I think there's a...

3220
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:09,780
This technology is likely going to be here because it's needed to be able to store that renewable energy on those off-periods for use for the community.

3221
04:40:10,440 --> 04:40:17,680
But there's a mean that we can't insist that this be the safest technology that we have in our communities.

3222
04:40:17,860 --> 04:40:28,400
I know there's a lot of concerns in other parts of the state with this. And it's for good reason because of what they see happen here in another communities in southern California as well.

3223
04:40:28,400 --> 04:40:40,740
But I think I just wanted to mention that because there is that recognition that there's the legislature as invested in goals and has even expedited some of these projects and other parts of California.

3224
04:40:41,680 --> 04:40:48,660
I think we're going to continue to see that, but it doesn't mean that we can insist on having the safest technologies and policies here for Monari County.

3225
04:40:49,280 --> 04:40:50,280
Thank you.

3226
04:40:53,180 --> 04:40:53,960
Great. Thank you.

3227
04:40:54,760 --> 04:41:09,680
Again, I'll reiterate my appreciation to our presenters to the public and to our team that has been so diligent about ensuring that we're following up and keeping this issue of priority and not letting it slide away.

3228
04:41:09,680 --> 04:41:14,220
I had a couple of notes here,

3229
04:41:17,980 --> 04:41:23,240
the questions that my colleagues ask, I think, I think it's,

3230
04:41:23,240 --> 04:41:35,860
I'll just say it is frustrating to feel like we can't get the information that we want to need for our community, the safety and health concerns.

3231
04:41:37,100 --> 04:41:45,520
I hear us being told, we've looked at everything, and it's fine, and I also hear that we continue to have questions that are not answered.

3232
04:41:46,520 --> 04:41:54,460
And so thank you to Reset Church for continuing to ask those questions and to our partners that's a state and federal spaces.

3233
04:41:55,960 --> 04:42:04,120
If there's a different format or different way that we should sit down together and ask these questions to try to get to the answers that I know our public deserves to have.

3234
04:42:04,120 --> 04:42:13,180
Let us know how we can do that because we continue to have questions that are unanswered.

3235
04:42:13,780 --> 04:42:21,320
Having said all of that, I will also say that the comments from a supervisor Daniels

3236
04:42:21,320 --> 04:42:26,440
about the need for ongoing long-term testing and assessment.

3237
04:42:26,440 --> 04:42:35,780
And I think our very fair questions for us to be putting out there in terms of, you know,

3238
04:42:35,800 --> 04:42:40,360
by a accumulation over time, what that means for both the Asturias, as well as public

3239
04:42:40,360 --> 04:42:40,840
health.

3240
04:42:41,440 --> 04:42:52,360
I think those are questions that deserve to have additional study for the one-year mark,

3241
04:42:52,360 --> 04:42:59,900
The five, you know, a long, over time because we do know that there was a lot of material

3242
04:42:59,900 --> 04:43:03,940
that was burned, and it doesn't just disappear.

3243
04:43:04,380 --> 04:43:09,160
I have, I just have a hard time, like it's like, we live in this ecosystem of, you know,

3244
04:43:09,180 --> 04:43:12,560
things, the rain, it evaporates from a puddle, but it didn't disappear.

3245
04:43:12,800 --> 04:43:15,980
It went back out and it will come back to us in some form.

3246
04:43:15,980 --> 04:43:27,100
So I think that there is a need to have that kind of funding for a long-term study, so I support the request that Supervisor Daniels just made.

3247
04:43:29,040 --> 04:43:35,340
I appreciate that we have work happening on the ordinance, and there is a town hall meeting coming up.

3248
04:43:36,080 --> 04:43:40,240
So folks will have the first opportunity to put feedback into that.

3249
04:43:40,240 --> 04:44:08,000
The other issue that it's not directly related to the cleanup, but that I would like to find a way and space for us to engage in is what type of CPC on going oversight looks like for these facilities, knowing that we will, the cross the state, there are, we rely on battery storage and we will continue to rely on battery storage to meet California's energy needs.

3250
04:44:08,000 --> 04:44:14,420
Knowing that, I think we've posed a number of questions to the CPC about what does

3251
04:44:14,420 --> 04:44:21,530
both initial, initial approval look like, and what does ongoing regulatory oversight look like,

3252
04:44:22,700 --> 04:44:29,440
so making sure that that oversight is occurring in the ways that it needs to be.

3253
04:44:29,600 --> 04:44:33,720
I think is one one thing that is priority for me.

3254
04:44:33,720 --> 04:44:35,780
I think

3255
04:44:38,180 --> 04:44:42,880
that summarizes my high-level thoughts here, but I will just sort of leave the question

3256
04:44:42,880 --> 04:44:49,420
and maybe ask our team if there is a different type of mechanism that we can collectively

3257
04:44:49,420 --> 04:44:55,080
set and talk to our state and federal partners, whoever has the authority to answer the

3258
04:44:55,080 --> 04:44:58,660
questions sitting down with us, I know that that would mean.

3259
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:29,980
So, I'll leave that as a question as we move forward as well. Okay, we'll bring it back to the board any final comments or additional questions. I'm not seeing any additional questions. So at this point, we are, you know, it was receiving a report, a receiving a number of reports, and then providing direction to staff. So I heard a couple pieces of direction. One of them being to investigate what level of ongoing financial status,

3260
04:45:29,980 --> 04:45:37,540
part we can have to request a third party investigator for ongoing, and you were specific

3261
04:45:37,540 --> 04:45:45,700
to the ask jury, I would actually say for a broader perspective of ongoing public health

3262
04:45:45,700 --> 04:45:52,660
monitoring. Is there support for, I'll just look for general support for that?

3263
04:45:53,180 --> 04:45:59,000
If there's a, I mean, absolutely, no non-sport. I think the reason that I selected what I did in

3264
04:45:59,000 --> 04:46:05,480
question was because it picks up where the research that was done by Amber leaves off.

3265
04:46:05,780 --> 04:46:12,740
But if there's if there's a way to to to to ask for that.

3266
04:46:12,900 --> 04:46:13,280
Absolutely.

3267
04:46:14,200 --> 04:46:17,320
And I guess the part of that question is also to our to DTSC.

3268
04:46:17,520 --> 04:46:24,280
Like what level of ongoing research in study, are you planning on doing, or is it a one year

3269
04:46:24,280 --> 04:46:30,300
where we're done, will you be continuing to to monitor and in what way?

3270
04:46:30,300 --> 04:46:32,480
and over a what period of time,

3271
04:46:35,720 --> 04:46:38,420
and that that is a question for DTSC if you're still with us.

3272
04:46:44,740 --> 04:46:48,460
Okay, well we can maybe get some information there. That would be great. Yeah.

3273
04:46:49,200 --> 04:46:54,100
Thank you, Supervisor. These are great questions and I have an intention of going back and listening

3274
04:46:54,100 --> 04:46:59,400
to the transcripts of this and taking Supervisor Church's questions and summarizing those for DTSC

3275
04:47:00,140 --> 04:47:04,960
as well as your Supervisor Daniels and yours now so we can have DTSC address those so that

3276
04:47:04,960 --> 04:47:10,260
maybe one of those other forums that you're mentioning of how we can communicate this highly

3277
04:47:10,260 --> 04:47:13,960
technical information back to you in a timely manner.

3278
04:47:14,520 --> 04:47:16,040
Thank you.

3279
04:47:16,760 --> 04:47:23,980
Okay, so I thought nods from Church and Daniels, are we, are we feeling comfortable with

3280
04:47:23,980 --> 04:47:24,820
that?

3281
04:47:25,140 --> 04:47:30,140
So I'm just wondering what we're asking for, we're saying to, we're asking Vistra to

3282
04:47:30,140 --> 04:47:32,740
on the additional community-based science,

3283
04:47:33,240 --> 04:47:34,540
but to what extent for how much time

3284
04:47:34,540 --> 04:47:37,300
is our dollar amounter, we just keep in that open and vague?

3285
04:47:38,260 --> 04:47:39,860
I think we're asking our staff to take a look

3286
04:47:39,860 --> 04:47:41,860
at what the needs would be.

3287
04:47:43,400 --> 04:47:44,780
To look at options, right?

3288
04:47:45,420 --> 04:47:47,380
So to bring it back at our next update,

3289
04:47:47,640 --> 04:47:48,180
I mean, I just...

3290
04:47:50,260 --> 04:47:50,440
Okay.

3291
04:47:51,340 --> 04:47:54,200
So just so I can reiterate my understanding.

3292
04:47:54,520 --> 04:47:57,680
So the direction is for staff to work with our state partners

3293
04:47:57,680 --> 04:48:05,180
to explore a long-term strategy or plan for ongoing sampling that could potentially be funded

3294
04:48:05,180 --> 04:48:07,400
by Vistra to a third party.

3295
04:48:08,280 --> 04:48:08,540
Sorry.

3296
04:48:10,040 --> 04:48:13,960
So I'll just reiterate, because it's not to work with the State Park partners.

3297
04:48:14,180 --> 04:48:18,880
This was very interesting what we heard today from Ember in particular.

3298
04:48:18,880 --> 04:48:28,700
And so what it has led me to want is some type of independent biological monitoring for the

3299
04:48:28,700 --> 04:48:34,480
LCORN SLU and have some oversight by one of these local entities.

3300
04:48:35,360 --> 04:48:39,760
And so that's, you know, it's, make the polluters pay.

3301
04:48:39,960 --> 04:48:45,100
I'd like to see if Vistra would fund this ongoing effort.

3302
04:48:45,100 --> 04:48:52,760
And this is in reference to what was stated in the Amber Report about bioaccumulation.

3303
04:48:52,760 --> 04:48:54,160
I believe it was the last page.

3304
04:48:54,500 --> 04:48:58,700
Bioaccumulation can curse slowly and unevenly across sites and species.

3305
04:48:59,340 --> 04:49:02,920
So until many date sites and species have been analyzed for metals,

3306
04:49:03,460 --> 04:49:04,960
conclusions cannot be drawn.

3307
04:49:05,640 --> 04:49:11,000
Okay. So the direction to staff or the proposed recommendation to staff is to

3308
04:49:11,000 --> 04:49:15,960
after a letter on behalf of the county to vis-ra requesting that they fund additional sampling

3309
04:49:15,960 --> 04:49:18,420
and studies for a neutral third party.

3310
04:49:18,740 --> 04:49:20,540
Yeah, I think what we've got oversight from the community.

3311
04:49:21,040 --> 04:49:22,020
Yes, this is our intention.

3312
04:49:22,180 --> 04:49:29,320
The county hopes to the county requests ongoing, just like I had said, ongoing biological

3313
04:49:29,320 --> 04:49:36,140
monitoring for the Alcorn SLU and begin the negotiation with them to fund that ongoing

3314
04:49:36,140 --> 04:49:36,860
monitoring.

3315
04:49:37,020 --> 04:49:37,380
Excellent.

3316
04:49:37,500 --> 04:49:37,880
Thank you.

3317
04:49:37,880 --> 04:49:38,940
That would be great. Thank you.

3318
04:49:39,040 --> 04:49:45,900
Then the second question would be around what is the PNDTSC's plan for ongoing population health monitoring.

3319
04:49:50,380 --> 04:49:56,400
So there were two questions and then we're going to follow up on the questions that, right, that this is a researcher chat.

3320
04:49:56,720 --> 04:49:58,660
I don't think we need to get a, I'm not planning to go.

3321
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:05,780
Good discussion. There's been a lot of questions made. I appreciate that you'll go back and look at the transcript to bring back.

3322
04:50:05,900 --> 04:50:08,160
The only actual direction is the beginning of the first letter.

3323
04:50:10,320 --> 04:50:13,540
On can you see a letterhead or board letterhead?

3324
04:50:17,500 --> 04:50:23,530
I think it will be additional discussion as well. I mean, looking at who what entity could compel them.

3325
04:50:24,380 --> 04:50:27,530
You know, I think that's an additional follow-up we need to do.

3326
04:50:30,380 --> 04:50:31,220
Right.

3327
04:50:31,560 --> 04:50:34,660
Unless there's more discussion on the dias, I'm going to say thank you to everybody.

3328
04:50:35,200 --> 04:50:40,640
Thank you to our community again for remaining engaged and sharing your experiences with us

3329
04:50:40,640 --> 04:50:44,460
so that we can do our best to hold accountability of all those.

3330
04:50:45,080 --> 04:50:49,300
And I'll just also find it in wrapping up a acknowledge.

3331
04:50:49,980 --> 04:50:56,500
We've experienced something that was unprecedented with the fire.

3332
04:50:56,500 --> 04:51:03,660
Also, we know that there's ongoing need for battery storage, and so finding the right path for how we address what happened,

3333
04:51:03,960 --> 04:51:11,080
how we learn from that, and then make the right steps moving forward, I think, is sort of the balancing act that we're walking here.

3334
04:51:11,420 --> 04:51:13,580
But really appreciate the support from everyone today.

3335
04:51:13,740 --> 04:51:14,280
Thank you.

3336
04:51:14,620 --> 04:51:15,460
Thank you.

3337
04:51:15,680 --> 04:51:16,020
All right.

3338
04:51:16,420 --> 04:51:18,220
With that, it is for 15.

3339
04:51:18,700 --> 04:51:20,220
We have a couple additional items.

3340
04:51:20,320 --> 04:51:24,700
I'm going to move on to item number 19, which is to receive an update from the County Department of Health,

3341
04:51:24,700 --> 04:51:29,020
social services and the Tivotad on the county's outreach education, marketing, and

3342
04:51:29,020 --> 04:51:33,740
medical application assistance efforts to mitigate impacts from state and federal policy

3343
04:51:33,740 --> 04:51:40,400
changes on Metacall. We have a group of folks from our health department and social services

3344
04:51:40,400 --> 04:51:41,540
and the Tivotad here to present.

3345
04:51:47,290 --> 04:51:51,550
Good afternoon. My colleagues get in the box here.

3346
04:51:52,730 --> 04:51:57,570
I'm El Seki Menis and it is my pleasure to introduce this item to your board.

3347
04:51:57,570 --> 04:52:27,550
I'm really excited that we are here back today after having several discussions with you at the end of last calendar year to really show how your investment has really helped to support our community based organizations and their efforts in engaging our community residents and getting them to understand the changes that we're going to be impacted because of state budget and HR1 and encouraging them to apply not only for medical but for other benefits so I'm really excited to have with us.

3348
04:52:27,550 --> 04:52:33,550
here today. We sent a lot of who is our public health program manager one. And Annette Gallegos,

3349
04:52:33,810 --> 04:52:39,110
who is an assistant deputy director. I hope I got your title correctly at social services. And

3350
04:52:39,110 --> 04:52:44,710
your PowerPoint should be on the screen there. Do you see it?

3351
04:52:57,210 --> 04:52:59,190
So with that, I'll hand it over to them.

3352
04:52:59,350 --> 04:53:00,190
Thank you.

3353
04:53:02,950 --> 04:53:03,330
Okay.

3354
04:53:06,260 --> 04:53:06,760
There we go.

3355
04:53:10,580 --> 04:53:15,720
Good afternoon. Chair root ask you, members of the board. I just want

3356
04:53:15,720 --> 04:53:23,180
say thank you for your support on this really critical effort that we've been engaged in for

3357
04:53:23,180 --> 04:53:29,440
the last few months and really appreciate the opportunity to provide a brief update on our

3358
04:53:29,440 --> 04:53:35,680
outreach and enrollment work. What's conducting a response to the changes to medical that we've

3359
04:53:35,680 --> 04:53:44,240
recently saw which started at the beginning of this year. I do want to just start off by talking a

3360
04:53:44,240 --> 04:53:53,320
about the goal that we focused on for this effort. And again, as I mentioned, as many of you

3361
04:53:53,320 --> 04:53:59,100
know, there were significant changes to medical that took effect January 1st. And because

3362
04:53:59,100 --> 04:54:04,300
of those changes, our goal was to increase awareness and support eligible residents to enroll

3363
04:54:04,300 --> 04:54:09,660
into medical before the end of the year. Particularly, we wanted to focus on reaching residents

3364
04:54:09,660 --> 04:54:12,180
who often face barriers to accessing care,

3365
04:54:12,280 --> 04:54:15,680
which includes individuals with unsatisfactory immigration status,

3366
04:54:16,280 --> 04:54:18,560
and make sure that they had the information

3367
04:54:18,560 --> 04:54:21,340
that's important needed to apply for medical.

3368
04:54:25,630 --> 04:54:28,350
And we really focused on three core strategies.

3369
04:54:29,170 --> 04:54:32,090
First was training and support making sure community partners

3370
04:54:32,090 --> 04:54:34,790
had the information and tools they needed

3371
04:54:34,790 --> 04:54:36,450
to help residents apply.

3372
04:54:36,850 --> 04:54:41,370
Second, community outreach and education working with trusted

3373
04:54:42,230 --> 04:54:48,530
organizations to reach residents with their at and lastly, a media strategy to help disseminate

3374
04:54:48,530 --> 04:54:53,390
information about medical changes and where residents could access support.

3375
04:54:56,530 --> 04:54:58,650
And with that, I just want to give you all a brief.

3376
04:55:00,050 --> 04:55:09,590
Now, the 250,000 that the board allocated back in October was used to support this effort. Again,

3377
04:55:09,650 --> 04:55:14,210
first, we focused on training support with facilitated two very successful trainings to help

3378
04:55:14,210 --> 04:55:19,330
partners understand the recent state and federal medical policy changes and how to assist

3379
04:55:19,330 --> 04:55:26,590
residents with completing medical applications. In total, we had 53 participants and our first

3380
04:55:26,590 --> 04:55:38,190
training 37 attended the second, and we, you know, it was about 12,500 that was used to support that effort, that piece of the allocation.

3381
04:55:39,770 --> 04:55:43,070
Second, we invested in community outreach and education.

3382
04:55:43,850 --> 04:55:54,530
And again, through a contract with the community foundation, a monetary county, we were able to fund eight CBOs to conduct outreach education and direct medical application assistance.

3383
04:55:54,530 --> 04:55:59,270
And again, we were really focused on reaching individuals with unsatisfactory immigration status

3384
04:55:59,270 --> 04:56:04,410
who we know face additional barriers to accessing care and resources.

3385
04:56:05,610 --> 04:56:12,550
Again, this portion represented about $177,500 dollars of the board's allocation.

3386
04:56:13,630 --> 04:56:18,990
And the third was used to support a media strategy to help raise awareness about upcoming policy changes

3387
04:56:18,990 --> 04:56:22,030
and connect residents to application assistance,

3388
04:56:22,770 --> 04:56:24,030
this include developing and sharing

3389
04:56:24,030 --> 04:56:26,270
bilingual messaging through various media channels.

3390
04:56:26,950 --> 04:56:30,210
And this portion of the allocation totaled 60,000.

3391
04:56:35,290 --> 04:56:36,390
I also just want to take a moment.

3392
04:56:36,850 --> 04:56:40,390
Many who are in the audience today, just recognize

3393
04:56:40,390 --> 04:56:44,290
the key partners who really helped this effort.

3394
04:56:45,370 --> 04:56:47,070
And through this, again, through a partnership

3395
04:56:47,070 --> 04:56:48,070
with the community foundation

3396
04:56:48,070 --> 04:56:50,730
on every county we were able to fund several community

3397
04:56:50,730 --> 04:56:53,370
based organizations to conduct outreach

3398
04:56:53,370 --> 04:56:54,930
in providing medical enrollment assistance.

3399
04:56:55,670 --> 04:56:59,550
And again, these organizations include Center for Community Advocacy,

3400
04:57:00,070 --> 04:57:02,710
Ventures, Catholic Charities, Action Council,

3401
04:57:02,890 --> 04:57:07,090
BHC, Monterey County, Mojadis and Action, Watsonville Law Center,

3402
04:57:07,430 --> 04:57:10,970
Centro BNational, Bada Desarroyo and Dichina Wajacanyo,

3403
04:57:11,430 --> 04:57:14,130
Bajada Valley Prevention, and Student Assistance.

3404
04:57:15,670 --> 04:57:18,350
And again, these organizations, this group of organizations,

3405
04:57:18,530 --> 04:57:22,050
played a key and critical role in reaching residents

3406
04:57:22,050 --> 04:57:27,710
directly and providing them with the much needed support for medical enrollment.

3407
04:57:28,530 --> 04:57:34,050
And we also partnered with TMD Creative to help develop an implement a bilingual media and

3408
04:57:34,050 --> 04:57:37,850
communication strategies to make sure residents were aware of upcoming medical changes

3409
04:57:37,850 --> 04:57:39,590
and new where to go for help.

3410
04:57:40,630 --> 04:57:46,210
And finally, I just want to take a moment to really express my deep gratitude for our partnership

3411
04:57:46,210 --> 04:57:52,830
with Department of Social Services, the Dividate Hospital, the Health Department, staff, and many

3412
04:57:52,830 --> 04:57:57,950
others who helped coordinate and really support this effort over the last few months. This

3413
04:57:57,950 --> 04:58:04,430
was truly, truly a team effort and so many individuals and so many different groups came

3414
04:58:04,430 --> 04:58:10,230
together collectively to really address this need that we identified in our community.

3415
04:58:14,040 --> 04:58:14,200
I want

3416
04:58:14,200 --> 04:58:17,820
to get into a little bit of the data. It was one of the things we wanted to do. I was really

3417
04:58:17,820 --> 04:58:21,500
to track our efforts so that it would inform next steps.

3418
04:58:22,300 --> 04:58:24,620
And so I really just want to briefly highlight some of the

3419
04:58:24,620 --> 04:58:27,320
outreach data that we were able to collect.

3420
04:58:27,980 --> 04:58:32,400
And overall, medical outreach activities took place at roughly

3421
04:58:32,400 --> 04:58:36,920
a hundred and twenty eight unique locations across the county.

3422
04:58:37,820 --> 04:58:39,820
These efforts took place in a variety of settings where

3423
04:58:39,820 --> 04:58:43,580
residents are already came together already gathered

3424
04:58:43,580 --> 04:58:46,700
including community events, resource fairs, food distributions,

3425
04:58:46,700 --> 04:58:51,740
clinics, schools, community centers, libraries, and CBO offices.

3426
04:58:53,360 --> 04:58:58,080
The map on the screen shows the number of outreach efforts per 1,000 residents by zip code,

3427
04:58:58,240 --> 04:59:01,920
and helps us really see where our efforts took place throughout the county.

3428
04:59:02,800 --> 04:59:09,920
As you'll notice, darker shading in parts of Northmine County, which reflects the presence

3429
04:59:09,920 --> 04:59:16,020
of organizations like PVPSA, CCA, Watsonville Law Center, which have offices in that region

3430
04:59:16,020 --> 04:59:18,580
and conducted a number of outreach activities there.

3431
04:59:19,240 --> 04:59:22,240
And at the same time, we also saw significant outreach activities

3432
04:59:22,240 --> 04:59:24,640
in South County, the Peninsula and throughout Salinas,

3433
04:59:25,000 --> 04:59:27,760
reflecting the broader network of community partners who

3434
04:59:27,760 --> 04:59:31,620
helped each do help reach residents across the county.

3435
04:59:35,030 --> 04:59:38,670
I also want to just share a little bit additional data

3436
04:59:38,670 --> 04:59:39,430
outreach data.

3437
04:59:40,970 --> 04:59:44,450
And one thing I do want to know is that these are numbers

3438
04:59:44,450 --> 04:59:47,170
that were self-reported by our community partners,

3439
04:59:47,170 --> 04:59:48,170
as far as CBO partners.

3440
04:59:49,190 --> 04:59:52,990
And also just to note that interactions don't necessarily

3441
04:59:55,270 --> 04:59:57,030
represent unique individuals.

3442
05:00:00,800 --> 05:00:11,160
So, in many cases, what we saw was that one individual had several interactions with CBO staff and received different types of support.

3443
05:00:11,280 --> 05:00:26,920
So, for example, you might have had one individual who went to like an outreach event and connected with CBO staff and then maybe followed up with a one-on-one appointment with staff for a medical application assistance.

3444
05:00:26,920 --> 05:00:37,140
And then maybe then was referred to another partner organization for additional services, say for legal aid or rather support.

3445
05:00:38,160 --> 05:00:50,660
That said, between October and February, partners collectively reported roughly 45,000 directing interactions with community members.

3446
05:00:58,600 --> 05:01:10,760
And we also saw, as the slide shows, a number of group events, roughly about 530 group events.

3447
05:01:12,100 --> 05:01:17,600
And which again occurred, such settings as schools, resource fairs, libraries.

3448
05:01:19,140 --> 05:01:26,040
We also saw a number of one-on-one interactions, roughly about 5,000, one-on-one interactions.

3449
05:01:28,540 --> 05:01:35,220
And more than partners also reported more than 2,000 direct messages and phone calls with

3450
05:01:35,220 --> 05:01:37,300
residents seeking information and support.

3451
05:01:37,880 --> 05:01:42,480
And again, the majority of these efforts focused on medical application supports.

3452
05:01:44,460 --> 05:01:52,760
I think the one thing I do want to highlight is that we did see partners report over a 10,000

3453
05:01:52,760 --> 05:01:59,340
instances of application assistance, including roughly 79 individual medical application support,

3454
05:01:59,620 --> 05:02:07,100
which is quite important in the number we want to really uplift, and that included

3455
05:02:07,100 --> 05:02:10,260
submitting paper in electronic applications through benefits count.

3456
05:02:14,000 --> 05:02:19,960
And lastly, the legal assistance was also another important factor in all of this.

3457
05:02:19,960 --> 05:02:31,100
We had, as the slide shows, over 575 direct supports, 280 referrals for legal aid, and

3458
05:02:31,100 --> 05:02:38,420
at last count, roughly 165 legal risk assessments, again supporting individuals with

3459
05:02:40,100 --> 05:02:43,200
specifically supporting them with medical application.

3460
05:02:49,880 --> 05:02:54,380
I also want to just take a moment to highlight some of the activities overall outreach efforts

3461
05:02:54,380 --> 05:02:58,880
the last year, and through their efforts they reached over 23,000 community members across

3462
05:02:58,880 --> 05:03:04,700
multiple areas of the county, including at our local airshow, cyclobias, county fairs,

3463
05:03:05,100 --> 05:03:09,380
immigration, and employment events, schools, church groups, and community clinics.

3464
05:03:10,660 --> 05:03:14,440
Again, these activities took place across the county, including South County, North County,

3465
05:03:14,640 --> 05:03:20,040
East Alina, on the peninsula, and this included two dedicated outreach workers who

3466
05:03:20,040 --> 05:03:21,840
attended community events throughout the year.

3467
05:03:21,840 --> 05:03:25,780
In addition to outreach and activity that has also provided medical applications for

3468
05:03:25,780 --> 05:03:35,060
with DSS staff located on site and activities in January of last year, 2025, to help connect patients directly to DSS services.

3469
05:03:40,520 --> 05:03:44,200
And in addition to outreach partners also focused on community education.

3470
05:03:45,720 --> 05:03:53,980
And partners reported facilitating roughly 57 medical education workshops reaching over 2,700 community members

3471
05:03:54,920 --> 05:04:01,080
with majority of the workshops, sorry, 270 committee members, with majority of the workshops

3472
05:04:01,080 --> 05:04:06,080
conduct in Spanish and Mistakele, and partners also shared over 2,700 medical education

3473
05:04:06,080 --> 05:04:12,080
and messages through a variety of channels including Dordid or Outreach, foam banking, social

3474
05:04:12,080 --> 05:04:14,160
media, and local media interviews.

3475
05:04:15,080 --> 05:04:19,900
In addition, five organizations hosted medical related information on the website, South Presidents,

3476
05:04:19,900 --> 05:04:23,460
access reliable information and application support.

3477
05:04:27,950 --> 05:04:34,670
And this includes a lot of the additional supports, but just to mention here that our

3478
05:04:34,670 --> 05:04:37,930
community partners also helped address other social determinants of health.

3479
05:04:38,270 --> 05:04:43,770
And this includes referrals to support, included referrals and supports related to programs

3480
05:04:43,770 --> 05:04:50,770
like CalKids, Health Services, Employment Resources, Adult Education, CalFresh, CalWorks,

3481
05:04:50,770 --> 05:04:54,110
and emergency assistance among others.

3482
05:04:55,230 --> 05:04:58,390
These connections also extended to areas such as financial assistance.

3483
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:12,540
So again, these efforts highlight how this campaign not only focus on medical enrollment, but also help connect community members to broader resources that support long-term health and with them to pass it over to Annette.

3484
05:05:17,770 --> 05:05:33,690
It really took us multiple meetings, and I also want to thank all of the different departments that really came together to put all of the information together, which included messaging through what's up.

3485
05:05:33,690 --> 05:05:41,730
application, which and direct messaging, there are over 450, what's up, posts, and over 700

3486
05:05:41,730 --> 05:05:52,710
direct messages related to the medical changes. And in addition to that, we also had county

3487
05:05:52,710 --> 05:06:01,710
messaging. So the Monterey County Communication Team had 5.3 million impressions in our messaging,

3488
05:06:01,710 --> 05:06:10,170
which included traditional media ads and billboards that the timid ad had in-kind supported

3489
05:06:10,170 --> 05:06:10,610
us.

3490
05:06:10,910 --> 05:06:14,270
So we had billboards on off the end of you got to see them, but there was a relief throughout

3491
05:06:14,270 --> 05:06:15,010
our county.

3492
05:06:16,290 --> 05:06:21,350
And so I just want to say thank you to all for that collaborative effort.

3493
05:06:24,150 --> 05:06:31,690
As I mentioned, we did contract with TMD that we utilized for our campaign.

3494
05:06:31,690 --> 05:06:38,110
that started in, at the end of October, and ended in December, really targeting medical outreach

3495
05:06:38,110 --> 05:06:46,590
in both English and Spanish, and the impressions that they provided were 4.8 million,

3496
05:06:46,590 --> 05:06:57,450
or over 4.8 million, which was over the goal of 4 million. 73% were traditional media and 27% digital,

3497
05:06:57,450 --> 05:07:00,750
But the vast majority, 81% was Spanish.

3498
05:07:02,590 --> 05:07:09,270
This really did result in an increase in applications which I'll go over in a bit.

3499
05:07:14,670 --> 05:07:19,730
So the cost per impression really was $12.44.

3500
05:07:21,770 --> 05:07:29,050
And you can see the examples of where they look like, which was really targeted to be the same,

3501
05:07:29,050 --> 05:07:31,970
like the billboards and our flyers and social media

3502
05:07:31,970 --> 05:07:33,110
all had the same messaging.

3503
05:07:36,680 --> 05:07:41,120
And we also provided the medical training in November,

3504
05:07:41,800 --> 05:07:43,920
really to prepare our community partners.

3505
05:07:44,920 --> 05:07:51,160
And that was in really our department of social service,

3506
05:07:51,340 --> 05:07:53,840
outreach staff and analyst and health department

3507
05:07:53,840 --> 05:07:56,000
to provide to our community-based partners.

3508
05:07:56,540 --> 05:07:59,060
So that everyone understood what were the changes,

3509
05:07:59,540 --> 05:08:01,140
what kind of messaging we were all

3510
05:08:01,140 --> 05:08:07,080
the same page and providing application support, and so that did include the 53 community

3511
05:08:07,080 --> 05:08:13,240
help workers, and then we had another one in February really focusing on the support for

3512
05:08:13,240 --> 05:08:18,260
now shifting on to ongoing renewals and documentation required.

3513
05:08:21,100 --> 05:08:27,440
So, applications submitted, so at the Department of Social Services, you can see that

3514
05:08:27,440 --> 05:08:33,600
our application numbers were declining prior to our campaign and did increase.

3515
05:08:33,760 --> 05:08:38,060
And this is a comparison from last year to this year in our numbers.

3516
05:08:38,580 --> 05:08:42,160
So we did have 2,000 over 2,000 applications,

3517
05:08:42,640 --> 05:08:46,400
which included all different types of applications online, male or in-person.

3518
05:08:47,020 --> 05:08:51,220
So we had a 13% increase in November and comparison to last year.

3519
05:08:51,420 --> 05:08:54,660
And in the month of December, we saw a 20% increase.

3520
05:08:59,690 --> 05:09:06,330
our visits. So our visits are difficult to say because I think you heard we sent this

3521
05:09:06,330 --> 05:09:10,970
a, you know, each customer could come in and see a CBO at different times.

3522
05:09:11,030 --> 05:09:15,130
That happens also in our office. They might come in because I need to under, I want to

3523
05:09:15,130 --> 05:09:19,410
submit my application or I need to come in because I need to understand what I need to

3524
05:09:19,410 --> 05:09:23,650
provide. I got a letter. I don't understand. So there are multiple office visits that

3525
05:09:23,650 --> 05:09:31,550
in our office and and really in the month of December is where we saw the big jump in applications

3526
05:09:31,550 --> 05:09:36,810
which we also know we are a seasonal county that we see an increase but as you can see from

3527
05:09:36,810 --> 05:09:41,130
last year to this year in the month of December it was a significant increase.

3528
05:09:44,530 --> 05:09:46,470
So ongoing medical outreach

3529
05:09:47,490 --> 05:09:55,150
efforts so at the Department of Social Services we do have our MC choice outreach staff which is a small

3530
05:09:55,150 --> 05:09:58,050
unit that provides individual.

3531
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:07,120
Residents with assistance with submitting applications. And we provide information and training for

3532
05:10:07,120 --> 05:10:13,460
community partners with application assistance. And that is really through our social services

3533
05:10:13,460 --> 05:10:21,040
medical allocation that is our normal process. And right now, we have a unit of really

3534
05:10:21,040 --> 05:10:28,680
four individuals at any given time. We have two to three out in the community. And I will let

3535
05:10:28,680 --> 05:10:30,200
and then they go over health.

3536
05:10:30,920 --> 05:10:32,720
And yeah, thanks a lot.

3537
05:10:33,240 --> 05:10:37,800
So within the Health Department under the Office of Equity,

3538
05:10:38,100 --> 05:10:39,360
we do have our core program,

3539
05:10:40,040 --> 05:10:44,440
which does a lot of medical outreach and enrollment support.

3540
05:10:45,220 --> 05:10:48,120
And we'll continue to support residents ongoing.

3541
05:10:48,780 --> 05:10:52,200
We're looking at probably somewhere around 60 to 80

3542
05:10:52,200 --> 05:10:55,320
residents per month that we would continue

3543
05:10:55,320 --> 05:10:57,360
to help support with application assistance.

3544
05:10:57,360 --> 05:11:06,060
We are currently funded through a state call CRG grant, which will be sunsetting in May and we're

3545
05:11:06,060 --> 05:11:12,400
looking at transitioning over to becoming a medical CW provider seeking reimbursement for

3546
05:11:12,400 --> 05:11:19,780
those services, as well as mom reimbursement to cover staff time for that work.

3547
05:11:21,460 --> 05:11:27,340
And then lastly, with the pivot add hospital, as I talked a little bit about their outreach

3548
05:11:27,340 --> 05:11:27,680
efforts.

3549
05:11:27,960 --> 05:11:31,700
They'll continue to do those outreach efforts as coming year, as well as support and

3550
05:11:31,700 --> 05:11:39,760
understood patients entering their facilities and continue to support them and refer

3551
05:11:39,760 --> 05:11:45,460
them to appropriate resources like DSS staff that's there at the hospital.

3552
05:11:46,960 --> 05:11:51,340
And I think with that, we're going to turn it back to Elsa for staff recommendations.

3553
05:11:51,780 --> 05:11:52,500
Yeah, thank you.

3554
05:11:52,500 --> 05:12:00,400
So I hope that the data presented to you today by my colleagues really shows how a $250,000

3555
05:12:00,400 --> 05:12:07,300
investment by your board really helped to reaffirm our trusted community-based organizations

3556
05:12:07,300 --> 05:12:13,300
and their trained community health workers and inviting the community to see them as trusted

3557
05:12:13,300 --> 05:12:19,720
resources that really resulted in 46,000 interactions with our community members.

3558
05:12:19,720 --> 05:12:24,340
10,000 medical application assistance events with

3559
05:12:24,340 --> 05:12:28,480
7,500 of those being with new individuals who had not been on

3560
05:12:28,480 --> 05:12:33,060
medical previously, and over 5 million impressions just with

3561
05:12:33,060 --> 05:12:36,440
your dollars, which were complemented by other in-kind services.

3562
05:12:37,520 --> 05:12:41,220
So what's our recommendation? I think we need to continue to support

3563
05:12:41,220 --> 05:12:45,500
our community-based organizations and the community with

3564
05:12:45,500 --> 05:12:49,360
understanding medical, understanding the changes, making sure that

3565
05:12:49,360 --> 05:12:54,960
know if they are in that population that has to do the redetermination every six months.

3566
05:12:56,040 --> 05:13:01,940
And continue to look for funding sources. I can't speak to Central California Alliance for Health,

3567
05:13:02,480 --> 05:13:10,180
which our colleague is in the back over there, Gabriela Chavez from CCAHS Salinas office.

3568
05:13:10,520 --> 05:13:14,840
They've been a true partner. They're the ones who help convene and conduct the trainings hosted

3569
05:13:14,840 --> 05:13:21,880
them at their site, and have now just released a new medical member outreach and retention program,

3570
05:13:22,680 --> 05:13:25,120
which they are holding a webinar tomorrow.

3571
05:13:25,460 --> 05:13:31,260
I believe that will provide funds for outreach, education, and renewal assistance, hopefully

3572
05:13:31,260 --> 05:13:34,840
really geared towards our trusted community-based organizations that have this infrastructure

3573
05:13:34,840 --> 05:13:35,520
built.

3574
05:13:35,760 --> 05:13:38,220
They will be funded for up to 12 months.

3575
05:13:39,280 --> 05:13:44,260
And even though it's a competitive process, they're eligible up to 25,000 for outreach

3576
05:13:44,260 --> 05:13:52,320
education and then up to 250,000 per organization for renewal assistance. I believe applications

3577
05:13:52,320 --> 05:13:57,840
are due March 27th and awards will be announced later in April. So that is one immediate

3578
05:13:57,840 --> 05:14:03,360
funding source that is available for the community. And then collectively the county

3579
05:14:03,360 --> 05:14:08,940
departments through its health department submitted a budget augmentation for your consideration

3580
05:14:08,940 --> 05:14:17,560
for next fiscal year of $750,000 to continue to invest in this infrastructure that we've created

3581
05:14:17,560 --> 05:14:23,840
that has proven over just a very short period of time to really create the results that we wanted,

3582
05:14:24,140 --> 05:14:28,760
which is to get the word about the changes out, encourage individuals to enroll from medical

3583
05:14:28,760 --> 05:14:38,920
link them to legal services as needed and use mass media, paid media, et cetera, to just get the

3584
05:14:38,920 --> 05:14:41,580
take any questions that your board may have.

3585
05:14:45,540 --> 05:14:48,800
All right, I don't see anyone making eye contact with me, so we're going to open it up

3586
05:14:48,800 --> 05:14:52,200
for public comment, and it looks like we've got some folks who've been patiently waiting

3587
05:14:52,840 --> 05:14:54,020
to comment on that.

3588
05:14:54,020 --> 05:14:55,140
I think one question, sorry.

3589
05:14:55,400 --> 05:14:55,620
Okay.

3590
05:14:56,140 --> 05:14:58,660
Well, we'll go to the supervisor church first and then to public.

3591
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:03,140
The presentation and all the great work on the outreach on this.

3592
05:15:03,340 --> 05:15:10,420
When I was looking, I look at the map and it's very, it's great work all the way around the county.

3593
05:15:10,880 --> 05:15:14,840
The northern part of my district, there's a lot of CBO activity in the Barrow region,

3594
05:15:15,060 --> 05:15:19,260
but I noticed something that the perennial area, when I look at the map.

3595
05:15:19,800 --> 05:15:29,920
It was the one that was the lightest and I was just, it was that because we don't have to

3596
05:15:29,920 --> 05:15:34,080
people out there. So I'm just trying to understand why that

3597
05:15:34,080 --> 05:15:36,020
discrepancy between the very northern and more of the

3598
05:15:36,020 --> 05:15:39,500
central part. Yeah. So what we were collecting was where

3599
05:15:39,500 --> 05:15:44,140
people were being served. So it doesn't necessarily mean. Yeah.

3600
05:15:44,420 --> 05:15:48,800
So folks could be going to say CCA's office in

3601
05:15:48,800 --> 05:15:53,100
Castroville. Or, you know, so that's that's what we're tracking.

3602
05:15:53,500 --> 05:15:54,280
That's what now. Okay.

3603
05:15:57,290 --> 05:15:57,930
All right. Well, I'll

3604
05:15:57,930 --> 05:16:00,290
open it up to public comment now. Thank you.

3605
05:16:03,790 --> 05:16:04,210
Good afternoon,

3606
05:16:05,470 --> 05:16:09,250
Thank you for always finding ways to support our community.

3607
05:16:09,570 --> 05:16:12,050
Adriana with Watsonville Law Center Executive Director.

3608
05:16:12,390 --> 05:16:14,870
We were legal aid providing services to families.

3609
05:16:15,730 --> 05:16:20,690
We saw an average of 30 to 40 individuals a month from Monterey County.

3610
05:16:21,130 --> 05:16:25,430
Who we talked to them about the risk and risk assessments regarding eligibility.

3611
05:16:26,330 --> 05:16:30,510
Our average client income is 24,000 a year.

3612
05:16:30,510 --> 05:16:36,150
And the family size is three and the individuals that we were talking to were pregnant individuals

3613
05:16:36,150 --> 05:16:44,710
who were talking about either not enrolling or what was the risks of dropping medical.

3614
05:16:45,010 --> 05:16:52,050
So as you can see that's a population that is really high risk to stop any benefits and stop it

3615
05:16:52,050 --> 05:16:56,790
any medical care due to their status immigration status as well as due to just the fear of

3616
05:16:56,790 --> 05:17:03,290
the misinformation that exists, investments like these four CBOs or four organizations

3617
05:17:03,290 --> 05:17:08,650
like myself are critical because we are on the ground and we are the ones providing and building

3618
05:17:08,650 --> 05:17:13,770
the trust with the community. The reason why they can come to our office and ask us is because

3619
05:17:13,770 --> 05:17:18,030
we can keep their information completely confidential and protect it under attorney client privilege.

3620
05:17:18,610 --> 05:17:24,290
And then we can do a full assessment on their entire situation, not just the enrollment of medical,

3621
05:17:24,290 --> 05:17:30,210
but their entire situation of applying for also immigration status and their current family and

3622
05:17:30,210 --> 05:17:37,530
current situation. We also advise many of our clients not to stop medical care because they also

3623
05:17:37,530 --> 05:17:42,670
are afraid of anything that is happening so we were also working with them to continue to seek medical

3624
05:17:42,670 --> 05:17:48,530
care and continue to seek other social services that exist from the county because healthy county

3625
05:17:48,530 --> 05:17:59,030
a healthy resident, it makes a county a successful and healthy and if imagine the majority of our clients are agricultural workers.

3626
05:18:00,010 --> 05:18:07,270
So these are already vulnerable populations, so thank you for your investment and I hope that you can continue to invest. This is just the start.

3627
05:18:07,650 --> 05:18:10,770
This is not the ending and I'm hoping that you can continue to support.

3628
05:18:21,300 --> 05:18:27,580
Hello, my name is Juan Gomez on the Director of Programs and Organizing at the Center for Community Advocacyly.

3629
05:18:27,800 --> 05:18:29,060
Mostly known as CCA.

3630
05:18:29,260 --> 05:18:37,120
Our mission is to identify, cultivate and recognize leadership from farm workers and low-income families to expand opportunities into their lives.

3631
05:18:37,840 --> 05:18:41,420
Thank you first of all for selecting CCA as part of the Medical Outreach Campaign.

3632
05:18:41,420 --> 05:18:54,540
During the Outreach Campaign, all CCA staff and 13 promotorists, community health workers worked to provide information of changes to medical scheduling appointments, making referrals and completing new and re-enrollment applications.

3633
05:18:55,600 --> 05:19:01,080
CCA leaders are trusted community leaders with nearly 40 years of combined experience and community engagement.

3634
05:19:02,140 --> 05:19:09,780
People we reach through tabling outside grocery stores, high-foot traffic areas, churches, community centers, schools and other locations.

3635
05:19:09,780 --> 05:19:23,480
During the campaign, CCA was able to reach 16,976 residents, provided 100,574 referrals to other services and completed 587 applications.

3636
05:19:24,340 --> 05:19:28,280
We are looking to continue future collaborative work with you all.

3637
05:19:28,540 --> 05:19:33,840
And then we have two of our community health workers that are going to be sharing some of your experiences with you.

3638
05:19:38,830 --> 05:19:43,830
Hello, good afternoon. My name is Joseph Liniis, I'm a community manager with CCA.

3639
05:19:43,890 --> 05:19:45,350
And I'm the head of the community.

3640
05:19:46,970 --> 05:19:53,710
My name is Alegria, I share the results of our research on the description of this medical prescription for CCA.

3641
05:19:54,950 --> 05:19:58,670
Alineasio enfrentamos grande retos como la desconfianza el clima por

3642
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:06,480
El documento de identificación de las personas, el poco interés que le daban a la fecha límite para aplicar a médical completo.

3643
05:20:07,840 --> 05:20:11,300
¿Cuál momento? Diego, ¿are you able to translate for us?

3644
05:20:14,760 --> 05:20:15,160
Diego?

3645
05:20:16,160 --> 05:20:19,920
Ya, testing, can you please repeat the introduction?

3646
05:20:20,960 --> 05:20:24,340
Yes, can you make that announcement, please, so that it's communicated.

3647
05:20:25,460 --> 05:20:31,240
Por favor, puede hablar en oraciones, para el disparo de oración claramente, para que ya le pueda traducir.

3648
05:20:32,160 --> 05:20:38,940
Bueno, a estar desde mi nombre de ellos, el iniz, las promotora comunitaria con el Centro de Abogacía de la Comunidad, mejor conocido como SISI.

3649
05:20:45,660 --> 05:20:51,960
Me llena de alegría compartirles resultados de nuestra reciente jornada de inscripciones a médical por parte de SISI.

3650
05:20:51,960 --> 05:20:55,880
Enfiliados a la historia de los resultados de los

3651
05:20:58,120 --> 05:20:59,940
nuestros nombres de los

3652
05:20:59,940 --> 05:21:00,360
que se han encontrado.

3653
05:21:02,220 --> 05:21:04,780
Al inicio enfrentamos grandes retos como la

3654
05:21:04,780 --> 05:21:07,620
desconfianza, el glima político y la falta de

3655
05:21:07,620 --> 05:21:08,960
documentos de identificación.

3656
05:21:10,460 --> 05:21:11,060
La definición de la

3657
05:21:11,060 --> 05:21:12,260
primera vez en las instituciones

3658
05:21:12,260 --> 05:21:14,400
incluyen de Poledical Amdins,

3659
05:21:17,470 --> 05:21:19,130
cuando fueron los otros dos que

3660
05:21:19,130 --> 05:21:20,550
indicó ferrados políticos.

3661
05:21:20,910 --> 05:21:22,730
La falta de documentos de identificación

3662
05:21:22,730 --> 05:21:25,730
de las personas.

3663
05:21:30,090 --> 05:21:35,210
El poco interés que le daban a la fecha límite para aplicar para medicar completo.

3664
05:21:41,830 --> 05:21:46,310
El desaliento de no calificar por el límite de ingresos.

3665
05:21:46,310 --> 05:21:54,310
de una vez que no quiere, no quiere hacer un proceso de inconglinidad.

3666
05:21:54,930 --> 05:21:57,770
O simplemente la falta de información?

3667
05:21:57,970 --> 05:21:58,930
O simplemente la combina.

3668
05:21:59,790 --> 05:22:02,150
Ya que muchas personas ignoraban que es médical.

3669
05:22:06,290 --> 05:22:10,710
Si muchas personas buscaban apoyo específico para renovar su cobertura.

3670
05:22:15,750 --> 05:22:22,210
Y a que se les dificulta llenado de documentos y mencionan que en la oficina principal?

3671
05:22:28,510 --> 05:22:33,170
Siempre hay mucha gente y por teléfono es muy difícil que contestan los trabajadores.

3672
05:22:41,290 --> 05:22:46,130
Sin embargo, logramos transformar esa incentía incertidumbre en seguridad.

3673
05:22:52,270 --> 05:22:55,990
Gracias a que estuvimos presentes en el corazón de nuestra comunidad.

3674
05:23:00,330 --> 05:23:09,850
Comparimiento directamente con cada familia, en una ubicación accesible y de confianza.

3675
05:23:13,070 --> 05:23:17,890
Lo más gratificante ha sido ver a las personas regresar con su tarjeta en mano.

3676
05:23:23,410 --> 05:23:26,170
con los rostros llenos de felicidad y de tranquilidad.

3677
05:23:32,850 --> 05:23:36,110
Agradezco el gran trabajo que realizaron por parte de médical.

3678
05:23:41,190 --> 05:23:45,950
Dando nos acceso directo a una línea para si h dovidos.

3679
05:23:50,330 --> 05:23:53,330
Para apoyar a las personas, fue fundamental este trabajo.

3680
05:23:54,530 --> 05:24:01,450
En order, para que el impacto ha sido total,

3681
05:24:03,690 --> 05:24:09,450
que las personas aún siguen buscando para que les ayuden el proceso.

3682
05:24:14,310 --> 05:24:17,810
Lo cual demuestra la confianza que hemos construido.

3683
05:24:22,050 --> 05:24:25,450
Este éxito nos confirma nuestra conexión humana.

3684
05:24:29,110 --> 05:24:31,790
más poderosa para generar bienestar.

3685
05:24:35,690 --> 05:24:40,530
Seguamos adelante para eliminar barreras y asegurando que nadie que de afuera.

3686
05:24:57,250 --> 05:24:58,690
Les que moven a jejo a eliminar berries,

3687
05:25:02,580 --> 05:25:10,000
Buenas tardes. Buenas tardes. Bienvenidos de la Junta de Superlizores, mi nombre es Beatriz Garza, promotora de Salud, decisiones.

3688
05:25:11,480 --> 05:25:15,180
Aguera, turno un borro de supervices, manes de atriz Garza, promotora de CCS.

3689
05:25:16,380 --> 05:25:21,380
Y en los últimos meses, colaboré como promotora de médical, por medio de mi organización.

3690
05:25:27,320 --> 05:25:34,120
Durante esta actividad, tuve la oportunidad de brindar asistencia a personas y familias.

3691
05:25:39,880 --> 05:25:43,360
En el proceso de llenar sus aplicaciones del médico.

3692
05:25:47,780 --> 05:25:53,240
ayudándoles a entender los requisitos, completar formularios y cómo acceder a los servicios

3693
05:25:53,240 --> 05:25:54,600
de salud.

3694
05:25:55,000 --> 05:25:58,840
Helping me toadestender requirements to field de aplicaciones

3695
05:25:58,840 --> 05:26:02,580
en toadestencia, help parameters.

3696
05:26:03,120 --> 05:26:08,300
Y otras necesidades de manera más fácil, personal y de confianza.

3697
05:26:08,300 --> 05:26:12,300
y en el niz, en el niz, en una morentimeterraza,

3698
05:26:14,440 --> 05:26:17,490
de la realidad, la realidad, la realidad principalmente,

3699
05:26:18,300 --> 05:26:21,640
en la Farmers Market y dole el tree en Salinas.

3700
05:26:29,300 --> 05:26:35,200
La cual me permitió ayudar a quienes se enfrentaban barreras como el idioma,

3701
05:26:35,640 --> 05:26:38,200
falta de transporte, falta de información,

3702
05:26:38,200 --> 05:26:40,660
actual o dificultad.

3703
05:26:43,160 --> 05:26:45,520
Disalomitó, presentar información en

3704
05:26:45,520 --> 05:26:46,820
a morácter o web,

3705
05:26:46,920 --> 05:26:48,340
incluyen el lenguaje

3706
05:26:48,340 --> 05:26:50,900
y por favor, la importación

3707
05:26:50,900 --> 05:26:51,800
es bueno.

3708
05:26:52,560 --> 05:26:54,780
Alta de información actual o dificultad

3709
05:26:54,780 --> 05:26:56,800
es para navegar el sistema.

3710
05:26:57,220 --> 05:26:58,920
Por la actual información,

3711
05:26:59,120 --> 05:27:00,260
o dificultad es navegar

3712
05:27:00,260 --> 05:27:01,020
entre el sistema.

3713
05:27:02,060 --> 05:27:02,800
A sí mismo,

3714
05:27:02,800 --> 05:27:04,800
me fue posible escuchar muchas

3715
05:27:04,800 --> 05:27:05,440
historias.

3716
05:27:08,980 --> 05:27:13,820
Desde quien nunca había inaduado una aplicación

3717
05:27:15,600 --> 05:27:20,440
otros compró problemas de enfermedades crónicas severas

3718
05:27:22,800 --> 05:27:28,320
unos más que por medio lo acudían al doctor

3719
05:27:28,320 --> 05:27:38,580
Somos que dijeron a haber sido recibido un diagnóstico de cáncer.

3720
05:27:44,160 --> 05:27:49,720
Gracias a trabajar con junto de todos que nos participamos en esta campaña.

3721
05:27:53,640 --> 05:27:58,180
¿Los grámos a apoyar a un gran número de personas?

3722
05:28:03,400 --> 05:28:07,980
¿Pueden seguir recibiendo la atención médica que en tantos necesitan?

3723
05:28:07,980 --> 05:28:12,080
consideran que el material del

3724
05:28:12,080 --> 05:28:14,040
público es un tema de

3725
05:28:14,040 --> 05:28:14,880
mucha gente.

3726
05:28:15,620 --> 05:28:17,800
Agradezco su atención y continúa

3727
05:28:17,800 --> 05:28:19,960
apoyo y compromiso a este tipo

3728
05:28:19,960 --> 05:28:21,600
de esfuerzos comunitarios.

3729
05:28:27,860 --> 05:28:28,340
Gracias.

3730
05:28:32,200 --> 05:28:32,720
Gracias.

3731
05:28:45,680 --> 05:28:48,600
Entonces, si me van a estar presentado en el mundo,

3732
05:28:48,740 --> 05:28:51,020
vamos a ver cómo vamos a ver cómo estamos en Chimbers.

3733
05:28:51,960 --> 05:28:53,020
Thank you for being here.

3734
05:28:58,410 --> 05:29:00,510
Buenas tardes, mi nombre es Adriana Santana,

3735
05:29:00,630 --> 05:29:03,490
trabajadora comunitaria con mujeres de Naxión.

3736
05:29:03,930 --> 05:29:05,850
Gracias, no me ameneme, Adriana Santana,

3737
05:29:06,190 --> 05:29:08,470
a community work with mujeres de Naxión.

3738
05:29:09,670 --> 05:29:12,910
Mientras me he trazado información sobre los cambios de médical.

3739
05:29:14,470 --> 05:29:16,790
¿Cuál a los guionic formaciones de médical changes?

3740
05:29:16,790 --> 05:29:21,770
y confusión en las familias.

3741
05:29:24,030 --> 05:29:32,190
Lo que confirma de muestra la necesidad de informar,

3742
05:29:32,210 --> 05:29:34,930
traer información con nada a nuestra comunidad.

3743
05:29:40,790 --> 05:29:43,190
También tuvimos la oportunidad.

3744
05:29:46,460 --> 05:29:51,360
de ayudar a muchas personas a llenar sus solicitudes.

3745
05:29:55,260 --> 05:29:58,320
Gracias a la confianza que hemos establecido.

3746
05:30:04,280 --> 05:30:09,800
La comunidad confía en las trabajadoras comunitarias.

3747
05:30:15,280 --> 05:30:19,920
Personas que antes no aplicaban por miedo y falta de información.

3748
05:30:24,760 --> 05:30:32,880
Ahora lograron llenar su aplicación y tener su seguro médico.

3749
05:30:37,860 --> 05:30:42,160
La divulgación comunitaria es clave.

3750
05:30:45,140 --> 05:30:53,280
porque no sólo informa, sino que también genera confianza y apoyo.

3751
05:30:57,780 --> 05:31:03,280
Por eso es importante seguir invirtiendo en este trabajo.

3752
05:31:03,280 --> 05:31:07,180
¿Dás de razón es importante que he investido en este trabajo?

3753
05:31:09,120 --> 05:31:14,420
Ya que fortalece el acceso a la salud y el bienestar de nuestra comunidad.

3754
05:31:15,520 --> 05:31:18,700
Sin strengthens a health access en health,

3755
05:31:19,240 --> 05:31:20,280
a our community.

3756
05:31:22,460 --> 05:31:23,160
Thank you.

3757
05:31:30,380 --> 05:31:31,120
Buenas tardes.

3758
05:31:32,200 --> 05:31:34,060
Mi nombre es Alejandra Ruiz,

3759
05:31:34,780 --> 05:31:36,920
y yo en esta zona de Miami, Alejandra Ruiz.

3760
05:31:36,920 --> 05:31:41,800
Y honestamente no venía preparada para dar un comentario público.

3761
05:31:44,860 --> 05:31:53,220
Solo me quería dar mi comentarles mi experiencia al trabajar con la comunidad.

3762
05:31:56,620 --> 05:32:04,600
Yo como trabajadora comunitaria con mujeres en acción, he visto las barreras que muchas veces tienen la comunidad.

3763
05:32:11,000 --> 05:32:18,160
Y acá muchas veces las personas no aplican a servicios.

3764
05:32:22,940 --> 05:32:28,100
Porque tienen miedo muchas veces porque no los atienen de en su propio idioma.

3765
05:32:28,100 --> 05:32:38,160
Un militar es de acuerdo, o sea, o sea, por lo que es importante continuar invirtiendo en el trabajo

3766
05:32:44,120 --> 05:32:52,160
comunitario, porque la comunidad se siente más cómoda, haciendo preguntas y recibiendo apoyo de personas de su propio comunidad.

3767
05:32:53,060 --> 05:32:56,580
porque coben feeling en su怎麼辦,

3768
05:32:56,860 --> 05:33:00,920
sin tenerchas de información que está en el mundo.

3769
05:33:02,200 --> 05:33:04,540
Y es un sería todo, muchas gracias.

3770
05:33:05,320 --> 05:33:07,080
En ese lugar,  visas.

3771
05:33:10,050 --> 05:33:10,870
Ya, no sé.

3772
05:33:10,870 --> 05:33:11,330
y bienvenidos,

3773
05:33:11,390 --> 05:33:12,030
acá es vos de Nlines y Films.

3774
05:33:12,230 --> 05:33:12,430
Te larna.

3775
05:33:12,910 --> 05:33:13,210
Negas,

3776
05:33:13,330 --> 05:33:14,310
entra al Nacional dasoja,

3777
05:33:14,950 --> 05:33:15,890
creo que no se improvise,

3778
05:33:16,090 --> 05:33:16,950
el extremismo del lugar.

3779
05:33:17,390 --> 05:33:17,730
No.

3780
05:33:17,730 --> 05:33:17,850
Está vendencia.

3781
05:33:18,550 --> 05:33:19,470
para ser el mundo nacional para

3782
05:33:19,470 --> 05:33:20,910
desalición de Nlines y華quello,

3783
05:33:21,290 --> 05:33:23,150
la gente que es

3784
05:33:24,190 --> 05:33:24,750
un

3785
05:33:24,750 --> 05:33:29,770
este tipo de work, porque estamos able a superar la institución de la comunidad

3786
05:33:30,320 --> 05:33:34,090
con el lenguaje de superar este tipo de work.

3787
05:33:34,090 --> 05:33:38,150
Y creo que es una de las asesas, y también es una de las asesas.

3788
05:33:39,110 --> 05:33:47,490
Es decir, esta es una muy buena work que está con Sivio y la parte de la parte de la

3789
05:33:47,490 --> 05:33:48,950
Entonces, madame,

3790
05:33:49,270 --> 05:33:49,570
para que nos hechos de resolver

3791
05:33:49,570 --> 05:33:51,490
los Estados Unidos y

3792
05:33:52,390 --> 05:33:53,130
de todos los 끄� Kyungta y

3793
05:33:53,130 --> 05:33:55,370
y fuera en general.

3794
05:33:55,610 --> 05:33:55,950
Gracias.

3795
05:33:59,570 --> 05:33:59,850
Muchas gracias.

3796
05:34:00,350 --> 05:34:00,930
Muchas gracias,

3797
05:34:00,930 --> 05:34:02,150
siempre para los comentarios.

3798
05:34:03,230 --> 05:34:04,530
Estamos en inform隱los que

3799
05:34:04,530 --> 05:34:06,290
sí, se van a dar con un

3800
05:34:06,290 --> 05:34:06,550
tiempo.

3801
05:34:06,570 --> 05:34:07,890
Estamos haciendo una información

3802
05:34:07,890 --> 05:34:08,890
para toda parte de la

3803
05:34:08,890 --> 05:34:09,050
pretendera.

3804
05:34:17,880 --> 05:34:18,480
Si.

3805
05:34:18,480 --> 05:34:18,940
fue el tema de la業

3806
05:34:18,940 --> 05:34:19,680
de la Meua. Pero

3807
05:34:22,600 --> 05:34:23,560
No hay orde

3808
05:34:24,700 --> 05:34:26,540
a la mejora. No

3809
05:34:26,540 --> 05:34:28,700
hay gente que

3810
05:34:28,700 --> 05:34:34,120
de este canal, y las de lasมาakers de los gobiernes como aerosas cosas

3811
05:34:34,120 --> 05:34:38,220
en el canal de laasta.

3812
05:34:38,280 --> 05:34:41,300
Esto es tan trábol, que ya está en el canal deова.

3813
05:34:41,580 --> 05:34:45,380
Y claro, tres casos de la�as edición de la calle del canal al

3814
05:34:45,380 --> 05:34:45,880
policial.

3815
05:34:47,340 --> 05:34:52,180
Y ahora, voy a decir qué era la financiación que es

3816
05:34:52,180 --> 05:34:58,680
a los cosas de los que en el canal de la calle.

3817
05:35:01,280 --> 05:35:15,340
Funding to medical, while increasing funding to war, like I heard 1.6 billion dollars a day is costing for the war in Iran.

3818
05:35:15,340 --> 05:35:29,700
I think we have a topsy-turvy economic system we should have funding for everybody for housing, medical care, etc.

3819
05:35:31,120 --> 05:35:40,980
I have a copy of Franklin G. Roseville's bill of economic rights during World War II time.

3820
05:35:41,800 --> 05:35:49,940
And it's what we should be having the right to a youthful and renewable job in the industry

3821
05:35:49,940 --> 05:35:58,500
your shops or farms or mines of an Asian, the right turn enough to provide adequate food

3822
05:35:58,500 --> 05:36:00,860
and clothing and recreation.

3823
05:36:02,820 --> 05:36:09,660
The right of every family to a decent home and what you're discussing today, the right

3824
05:36:09,660 --> 05:36:17,240
to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health.

3825
05:36:17,240 --> 05:36:23,240
I, that's just quoting the major part of it.

3826
05:36:23,540 --> 05:36:28,040
I do upon your effort to support the community.

3827
05:36:28,940 --> 05:36:38,520
We do need funding to be going to the places that benefit the community, not to war of the community.

3828
05:36:39,420 --> 05:36:42,260
We are at a time and home on the pool.

3829
05:36:42,420 --> 05:36:43,540
Thank you.

3830
05:36:44,160 --> 05:36:45,320
Thank you for your comments.

3831
05:36:45,320 --> 05:36:47,540
Um, we do appreciate them.

3832
05:36:47,540 --> 05:36:50,100
And we'll go next to Norma and then to Francesca.

3833
05:36:56,570 --> 05:36:57,410
Buenas tardes.

3834
05:36:57,970 --> 05:36:58,570
Supervisores.

3835
05:36:58,950 --> 05:36:59,390
Good afternoon.

3836
05:36:59,630 --> 05:37:00,230
Supervisors.

3837
05:37:00,390 --> 05:37:00,690
Norma.

3838
05:37:00,870 --> 05:37:01,210
It's a trauma.

3839
05:37:02,070 --> 05:37:03,030
Comunitaria de salud.

3840
05:37:03,470 --> 05:37:04,230
My name is Norma.

3841
05:37:04,390 --> 05:37:05,710
And I'm a community health worker.

3842
05:37:06,590 --> 05:37:07,510
I see.

3843
05:37:07,810 --> 05:37:08,550
Here in the.

3844
05:37:08,670 --> 05:37:09,150
Manoreca.

3845
05:37:09,250 --> 05:37:10,610
I've heard directly.

3846
05:37:11,310 --> 05:37:11,790
How many.

3847
05:37:11,790 --> 05:37:12,170
How many.

3848
05:37:12,170 --> 05:37:13,570
How many.

3849
05:37:16,390 --> 05:37:17,330
How many.

3850
05:37:17,850 --> 05:37:18,290
How many.

3851
05:37:19,310 --> 05:37:20,010
How many.

3852
05:37:20,010 --> 05:37:20,490
How many.

3853
05:37:20,490 --> 05:37:21,010
How many.

3854
05:37:21,010 --> 05:37:21,990
Where are the changes?

3855
05:37:22,430 --> 05:37:22,710
Until next time.

3856
05:37:22,710 --> 05:37:23,950
I will be able to do this for you.

3857
05:37:24,770 --> 05:37:27,010
Thank you.

3858
05:37:27,130 --> 05:37:33,430
Gracias a la divulgación de información mediante el boca boca y los folletos.

3859
05:37:33,910 --> 05:37:37,010
Muchas personas pudieron renovar sus beneficios.

3860
05:37:38,270 --> 05:37:42,150
For more of many people who are able to renew their membership, pay the necessary changes

3861
05:37:42,150 --> 05:37:44,610
and be prepared to these adjustments.

3862
05:37:44,610 --> 05:37:50,650
making visits to a social worker, making visits to a social worker.

3863
05:37:53,090 --> 05:38:03,790
They have the chance to apply, where I want to do it before the online date.

3864
05:38:03,790 --> 05:38:06,430
to guarantee that all the residents

3865
05:38:06,430 --> 05:38:09,730
have access to the information

3866
05:38:09,730 --> 05:38:12,490
that they need to provide for their health.

3867
05:38:12,490 --> 05:38:14,930
This voluntary work is necessary to make sure

3868
05:38:14,930 --> 05:38:17,530
that all the people get access to health.

3869
05:38:18,990 --> 05:38:21,790
I thank you for your support and the health access

3870
05:38:21,790 --> 05:38:22,770
to our community.

3871
05:38:27,760 --> 05:38:28,700
Thank you.

3872
05:38:28,860 --> 05:38:29,880
Put on this, Francesca.

3873
05:38:37,300 --> 05:38:38,380
Hola, buenas tardes.

3874
05:38:39,140 --> 05:38:39,820
Ah, good afternoon.

3875
05:38:44,500 --> 05:38:49,100
And so Francis Carrosalis from BHC

3876
05:38:52,050 --> 05:38:55,810
were working on

3877
05:38:57,920 --> 05:39:02,000
the community.

3878
05:39:02,940 --> 05:39:06,640
where we are created a link with our community.

3879
05:39:11,380 --> 05:39:15,000
Which community has a great trust towards me.

3880
05:39:19,810 --> 05:39:22,650
We helped him to have access to the medical application.

3881
05:39:41,250 --> 05:39:46,170
I think all of those have been able to bring all those benefits to the community.

3882
05:39:54,230 --> 05:39:58,590
I thank you so much and I extend to you all the blessings that the community has.

3883
05:40:01,040 --> 05:40:03,260
porque usted ha apostado.

3884
05:40:03,900 --> 05:40:07,460
Porque usted ha peído que está todo ese apoyo,

3885
05:40:07,460 --> 05:40:11,780
porque si ya tengo éxito en todo ese apoyo,

3886
05:40:12,180 --> 05:40:15,260
ahora nos dice que se formó la supo.

3887
05:40:17,520 --> 05:40:18,520
Entonces, que ahora convolutifica.

3888
05:40:19,360 --> 05:40:21,300
Vamos a hacer el trabajo.

3889
05:40:23,260 --> 05:40:25,860
Vamos a usar la única

3890
05:40:28,540 --> 05:40:32,980
identificación de edificaciones.

3891
05:40:38,220 --> 05:40:39,020
Gracias.

3892
05:40:47,100 --> 05:40:47,360
Gracias.

3893
05:40:47,360 --> 05:40:47,500
Gracias.

3894
05:40:47,920 --> 05:40:48,000
Gracias.

3895
05:40:48,000 --> 05:40:49,720
Vamos a ver qué vamos a hacer esto.

3896
05:40:50,160 --> 05:40:51,540
Vamos a hacer una pregunta.

3897
05:40:52,100 --> 05:40:54,120
En este caso, vamos a hacer una pregunta.

3898
05:40:54,260 --> 05:40:55,420
Pero también, vamos a hacer una pregunta.

3899
05:40:55,780 --> 05:40:57,200
Vamos a hacer una pregunta.

3900
05:41:01,060 --> 05:41:01,460
Gracias.

3901
05:41:01,660 --> 05:41:03,060
First of all, thank you for the presentation.

3902
05:41:03,280 --> 05:41:04,720
And thank you for all our community partners.

3903
05:41:05,100 --> 05:41:07,700
The Health Department, Natividad, the Social Department,

3904
05:41:07,780 --> 05:41:08,340
Social Services.

3905
05:41:09,280 --> 05:41:11,140
We appreciate all the hard work that went into this.

3906
05:41:11,600 --> 05:41:13,560
The numbers look very strong.

3907
05:41:13,640 --> 05:41:15,800
In terms of the context, the legal assistance,

3908
05:41:16,920 --> 05:41:18,820
de modelar a rechefas.

3909
05:41:20,620 --> 05:41:21,840
So, thank you.

3910
05:41:21,940 --> 05:41:23,020
It was a critical program,

3911
05:41:23,200 --> 05:41:24,460
we had to do it very quick

3912
05:41:24,460 --> 05:41:27,840
and we did it very fast, so,

3913
05:41:28,100 --> 05:41:28,940
thank you, too.

3914
05:41:29,180 --> 05:41:30,560
The main leaders and organizers

3915
05:41:30,980 --> 05:41:34,060
who made it happen in the trainings as well.

3916
05:41:35,780 --> 05:41:38,200
Some of the ads referred to,

3917
05:41:38,200 --> 05:41:39,780
are telling people to call 211,

3918
05:41:39,800 --> 05:41:41,020
Do We Know How Many, 2-1?

3919
05:41:41,020 --> 05:41:43,700
pa' que nos hemos venido.

3920
05:41:45,820 --> 05:41:48,340
Habo son mejores gezones a la vida y

3921
05:41:49,020 --> 05:41:50,940
porque de que ellos decidieron ir a la

3922
05:41:50,940 --> 05:41:51,580
turica de la presencia.

3923
05:41:51,700 --> 05:41:52,920
Esta es una y de una social media

3924
05:41:52,920 --> 05:41:53,560
en general.

3925
05:41:54,040 --> 05:41:55,320
Porque en la cidadったra para

3926
05:41:55,320 --> 05:41:56,840
Spanish es que es una

3927
05:41:56,840 --> 05:41:57,900
opción de Medicao,

3928
05:41:57,940 --> 05:41:59,600
uno, y uno.

3929
05:41:59,600 --> 05:42:00,680
Y de que sí que fue por

3930
05:42:02,400 --> 05:42:03,700
Team D. messenger,

3931
05:42:03,940 --> 05:42:04,120
TD-,

3932
05:42:04,720 --> 05:42:06,380
Questions sobre Medicao

3933
05:42:06,380 --> 05:42:07,560
informaría a la

3934
05:42:07,560 --> 05:42:08,120
opción de uno.

3935
05:42:08,120 --> 05:42:12,240
hay algo que no escuchaste a la house

3936
05:42:12,240 --> 05:42:12,880
porque a la Absolutely,

3937
05:42:13,820 --> 05:42:14,480
lớое,

3938
05:42:15,280 --> 05:42:17,240
tengo que seguir contando

3939
05:42:17,240 --> 05:42:19,840
en todo ese inicio y más

3940
05:42:19,840 --> 05:42:20,180
o aunque no sea tiempo.

3941
05:42:21,880 --> 05:42:22,380
ym Rockbide,

3942
05:42:22,640 --> 05:42:23,620
con la Grandmaerves

3943
05:42:24,380 --> 05:42:24,780
Всемo más después

3944
05:42:25,540 --> 05:42:30,000
deGs deDave feudas

3945
05:42:30,000 --> 05:42:38,100
que la fragrantza enETHIK

3946
05:42:30,260 --> 05:42:33,520
enETHIK

3947
05:42:38,100 --> 05:42:42,600
es una oferta en el NASA, la NASA, la US, la軍.

3948
05:42:42,760 --> 05:42:44,000
¿Pero no es algo que hacierto con eso?

3949
05:42:46,400 --> 05:42:48,120
Porque en donde laこん de losrebamos,

3950
05:42:48,760 --> 05:42:49,120
¿eh?

3951
05:42:49,120 --> 05:42:50,060
Si uno vive en la zona de la zona,

3952
05:42:50,060 --> 05:42:53,620
no es gente favorita con el genio de la intervención.

3953
05:42:53,660 --> 05:42:55,420
No es la manifesto aburre, no es el precisario.

3954
05:42:55,680 --> 05:42:59,840
La discusión de la iluminación es lo que se llama el celestial.

3955
05:43:00,720 --> 05:43:02,120
Los legislatrices programados,

3956
05:43:02,120 --> 05:43:05,180
hay el hecho de una de las que de la obra,

3957
05:43:05,640 --> 05:43:07,720
porque nos vamos a estar en esta resta,

3958
05:43:07,720 --> 05:43:09,540
Y cuando v Tirán del Assembly,

3959
05:43:09,680 --> 05:43:11,800
Kinderbenchera de Latinoamestadia distruse,entedness,

3960
05:43:12,100 --> 05:43:12,920
Eduardo, Elder

3961
05:43:15,440 --> 05:43:17,620
,лы 2010, aquí現gan

3962
05:43:17,620 --> 05:43:18,180
en primer modo,

3963
05:43:18,600 --> 05:43:21,080
loskeltas de su Quionlàche

3964
05:43:21,080 --> 05:43:28,040
de 111 años soberó. Los 2019, por porque fuimos elanimato

3965
05:43:28,040 --> 05:43:29,980
meופí

3966
05:43:29,980 --> 05:43:33,400
en Metáaco, la General

3967
05:43:32,300 --> 05:43:37,560
la General Institute del

3968
05:43:33,400 --> 05:43:34,700
Institute del

3969
05:43:34,700 --> 05:43:38,220
que no había sido un poco más intensivo,

3970
05:43:38,400 --> 05:43:41,080
que era participado en los $1.000.

3971
05:43:41,640 --> 05:43:46,040
Entonces, en la primera vez, el legislativo dice,

3972
05:43:46,220 --> 05:43:47,600
vamos a hacer la fría,

3973
05:43:49,040 --> 05:43:50,700
y no vamos a hacer un poco más de tiempo,

3974
05:43:50,980 --> 05:43:57,120
y vamos a hacer un poco más de $3.000, ¿verdad?

3975
05:43:57,300 --> 05:43:58,260
Y entonces,

3976
05:44:00,620 --> 05:44:20,840
hace el nivel de la

3977
05:44:28,260 --> 05:44:33,920
En la primera y primer lugar es que usted es unaLink Eventually,

3978
05:44:33,920 --> 05:44:36,320
es yo no me gusta dar una serie de propiasying,

3979
05:44:36,320 --> 05:44:37,880
pero aquí es todo el que nos va a haber broadband,

3980
05:44:37,880 --> 05:44:42,820
y que si el rey va o recono por甚麼eling

3981
05:44:42,820 --> 05:44:43,680
y que entre el concreto de aplicación,

3982
05:44:43,780 --> 05:44:45,440
yo me voy a volar a Nadie y no voy a ir.

3983
05:44:45,440 --> 05:44:46,880
Si tenemos que ir a la ajuntación,

3984
05:44:47,180 --> 05:44:47,760
le deviste,

3985
05:44:48,000 --> 05:44:48,880
lo que te mableos con la yardos,

3986
05:44:49,560 --> 05:44:52,600
porque se le diste en ejemplo,

3987
05:44:52,600 --> 05:44:54,000
pregnancy services medical,

3988
05:44:54,400 --> 05:44:55,840
not the full scope medical.

3989
05:44:56,700 --> 05:44:58,220
So, am I right about that?

3990
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:16,640
If there's any other piece that I'm using when it comes to the undocumented and the changes that are being made because it speaks to the point that this wasn't only an end of the year thing, but we're going to need eligibility workers in your department, social services, or maybe health.

3991
05:45:17,240 --> 05:45:24,880
To continue to assist people overcome these bureaucratic barriers, artificial barriers that were created to continue to be medical eligible.

3992
05:45:26,000 --> 05:45:40,940
Thank you so much, Supervisor Lejo, Chair root ask you, yes, we are in the midst of multiple complications, both coming from requirements passed down by the state and actions taken at the state and also from the federal HR1.

3993
05:45:41,800 --> 05:45:51,600
So, not only are the changes in the undocumented group receiving medical with the freeze and

3994
05:45:51,600 --> 05:45:57,360
but those 18 and under are still eligible and even new persons 18 and under are still eligible

3995
05:45:57,360 --> 05:45:57,900
for medical.

3996
05:45:58,300 --> 05:46:02,740
But those above if you currently aren't enrolled do not have the option to enroll.

3997
05:46:03,460 --> 05:46:07,780
If your enrollment is dropped and your discontinued, you don't then have the option as you

3998
05:46:07,780 --> 05:46:14,160
indicated to re-enroll, but then are just eligible for emergency medical services.

3999
05:46:14,900 --> 05:46:19,960
In addition, the federal government has changed some of the definitions of what a legal

4000
05:46:19,960 --> 05:46:23,440
citizen is, which has also created additional restrictions.

4001
05:46:24,660 --> 05:46:33,860
And the increased administrative burdens of reassessments twice a year, and the work requirements

4002
05:46:33,860 --> 05:46:41,320
are really hitting the population that was part of the ACA expansion, so it's not all of those

4003
05:46:41,320 --> 05:46:46,260
enrolled in medical, but really targeted on those, those that were became eligible as a part

4004
05:46:46,260 --> 05:46:52,180
of the Affordable Care Act. We are tracking our statistics monthly. A net is one of the

4005
05:46:52,180 --> 05:46:57,160
persons who always looks at those statistics and passes those onto me, so a net do you have some

4006
05:46:57,160 --> 05:47:03,280
additional comment? I think ongoing support is really needed. I was mentioning that

4007
05:47:04,220 --> 05:47:08,060
cases no matter what. We have renewals that have to be done and so we are seeing

4008
05:47:08,060 --> 05:47:14,460
discontinuances of individuals now and it could be, you know, 1200 in a month,

4009
05:47:14,780 --> 05:47:23,440
from 800 to 1200 in a month. So it is imperative that we assist those to renew their

4010
05:47:23,440 --> 05:47:31,060
medical annually. We still do have the 90 day if you get come off of medical to provide your

4011
05:47:31,060 --> 05:47:35,980
verification, which comes back to, you know, multiple visits, right, with community, with the

4012
05:47:35,980 --> 05:47:40,220
health department, with the Tivada, with us, and other community workers, because they don't

4013
05:47:40,220 --> 05:47:46,440
understand everything they need to provide. It is a complicated process that not everyone understands.

4014
05:47:47,840 --> 05:47:54,580
So, is there late or incomplete? Can you re-enroll? Well, you don't, well, you're renewing again.

4015
05:47:54,660 --> 05:47:59,780
So, we do have a 90-day period where you can complete your renewal even after discontinuence,

4016
05:47:59,780 --> 05:48:01,360
but after that, you cannot.

4017
05:48:01,860 --> 05:48:04,960
So you're not reapplying, you're renewing your case again

4018
05:48:04,960 --> 05:48:05,900
within that timeframe.

4019
05:48:06,480 --> 05:48:07,400
So is that 90 day window,

4020
05:48:07,600 --> 05:48:08,680
which makes me feel more comfortable?

4021
05:48:09,400 --> 05:48:13,280
And part of that is there's currently 90 days

4022
05:48:13,280 --> 05:48:16,080
of retroactive payments for medical services,

4023
05:48:16,120 --> 05:48:18,480
and that will be changing and dropping.

4024
05:48:19,120 --> 05:48:20,640
21, 130 days ran.

4025
05:48:21,260 --> 05:48:21,860
Yes, correct.

4026
05:48:22,120 --> 05:48:23,400
And could you go back, last question,

4027
05:48:23,840 --> 05:48:26,500
just as prior to the current year comparison chart?

4028
05:48:27,380 --> 05:48:28,140
Could you explain that?

4029
05:48:28,140 --> 05:48:32,800
There's ultimately all the context are good, but how many, the question is, how many people

4030
05:48:32,800 --> 05:48:36,600
do we actually get enrolled by the end of the year is the question I'm getting to?

4031
05:48:36,880 --> 05:48:41,980
How well did we do in terms of just getting people enrolled to meet that deadline of December

4032
05:48:41,980 --> 05:48:42,700
31st?

4033
05:48:42,920 --> 05:48:45,760
So specifically for unsatisfactory immigration status.

4034
05:48:46,300 --> 05:48:54,360
We had 38,000 previously on and we are a little, we were a little under the 38,000 by the

4035
05:48:54,360 --> 05:48:55,200
end of the year.

4036
05:48:55,200 --> 05:49:00,900
Again, it's because of discontinuences where people not renewing, not because of the application.

4037
05:49:01,300 --> 05:49:06,540
So even though we're increasing with application numbers, our renewals are going down.

4038
05:49:06,800 --> 05:49:08,480
So it's almost, it was almost a wash.

4039
05:49:09,700 --> 05:49:17,240
And how about just overall, how well did we do just on medical applications, undocumented and everyone else?

4040
05:49:17,960 --> 05:49:22,020
It pretty much is, I mean, our applications definitely increased to a significant amount.

4041
05:49:22,020 --> 05:49:26,820
I mean, we were constantly working on trying to get that information

4042
05:49:26,820 --> 05:49:29,540
to everybody about where we were at with the application.

4043
05:49:30,240 --> 05:49:31,900
Again, that's the same thing overall.

4044
05:49:32,040 --> 05:49:38,420
Our number for medical recipients is now starting to show a slight decrease

4045
05:49:38,420 --> 05:49:40,700
because of the renal from December to now.

4046
05:49:41,000 --> 05:49:43,460
It is slowly decreasing.

4047
05:49:43,780 --> 05:49:47,080
I think there's two additional data points we want to talk about.

4048
05:49:47,460 --> 05:49:51,300
So while we were seeing an increase in medical applications year over

4049
05:49:51,300 --> 05:49:55,860
year starting in October through December, during that same period of time, we continue to

4050
05:49:55,860 --> 05:49:58,500
see a decrease in CalFresh applications.

4051
05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:17,200
And so we're really pointing out that this focus on really getting out into the community and talking about the importance of medical and staying enrolled and getting that application in was actually quite effective in reversing a trend that we had been seeing continue throughout most of the last year.

4052
05:50:17,680 --> 05:50:27,280
One of the other things that we're seeing with discontinuances in medical is we're still dealing with the effects of the unwinding of the waivers that we're in place during the pandemic.

4053
05:50:27,280 --> 05:50:32,600
So while the pandemic actually ended a while ago, we're still in the phase of those that were

4054
05:50:32,600 --> 05:50:36,840
be able to maintain their coverage throughout the pandemic without a reassessment and without

4055
05:50:36,840 --> 05:50:42,580
an income verification and all of the other ways that we verify eligibility for medical.

4056
05:50:42,900 --> 05:50:48,140
That's all coming through now and we are actually reassessing many of those cases and many of

4057
05:50:48,140 --> 05:50:54,480
those are being discontinued. So it's really hard to know to break down the discontinuances between

4058
05:50:54,480 --> 05:50:59,800
that category and then those that are discontinuing because of fear.

4059
05:51:00,500 --> 05:51:06,300
Well, I just want to end by saying that our county associations can be fighting, making a budget

4060
05:51:06,300 --> 05:51:11,280
ask hopefully we can be successful in getting some significant funding for departments like yours,

4061
05:51:11,580 --> 05:51:16,700
for programs like these and our community partners continue to help with the eligibility case

4062
05:51:16,700 --> 05:51:22,180
work and outreach because it's going to be so critical for the rest of the year. As we saw the

4063
05:51:22,180 --> 05:51:26,260
are troubling and we got to be able to counter that. Thank you. Thank you.

4064
05:51:33,040 --> 05:51:36,000
I'll just, without comments or questions, my colleagues, let's say thank you to everyone

4065
05:51:36,000 --> 05:51:43,500
who jumped into action so quickly to make sure that we pushed information out into our community

4066
05:51:43,500 --> 05:51:50,700
when it was necessary and needed and what an incredible, I had no doubt that the outcomes would

4067
05:51:50,700 --> 05:51:57,940
prove benefit. I think it's important to acknowledge and for our board to acknowledge that not only

4068
05:51:57,940 --> 05:52:04,860
does this benefit those individuals who are able to continue receiving health care personally,

4069
05:52:05,660 --> 05:52:11,820
but it continues to keep medical dollars flowing into our health care system, county-wide.

4070
05:52:12,300 --> 05:52:19,180
Those dollars are critical to maintaining the health care system that everybody relies on.

4071
05:52:20,020 --> 05:52:25,280
So it's not just those who are applying for medical that this benefits, it's literally

4072
05:52:25,280 --> 05:52:30,960
the entirety of our health care system, our doctors, our hospitals, our specialists, we need

4073
05:52:30,960 --> 05:52:37,640
those dollars to be able to pay for everybody's care. So thank you for for understanding that

4074
05:52:37,640 --> 05:52:47,080
so quickly and taking action so quickly. It was of course it worked. It worked. So I'm hopeful that

4075
05:52:47,080 --> 05:52:53,880
we can continue this type of outreach. It's complicated when you're applying, when the rules are

4076
05:52:53,880 --> 05:53:01,020
changing, and then they're changing again, and then you have questions about how does this affect my legal status or my family is safety.

4077
05:53:02,580 --> 05:53:09,240
I think it's incredibly important that we as the county continue to recognize that yes, we do eligibility work,

4078
05:53:09,700 --> 05:53:14,860
but that eligibility funding from the state doesn't provide the outreach work that also has to happen.

4079
05:53:15,440 --> 05:53:20,700
And so without the outreach work, we're not going to meet people where they're at, and our system as a whole is going to lose critical health care dollars.

4080
05:53:20,700 --> 05:53:33,800
So I know there's, I understand there's going to be a request for additional dollars through our budget process that leaves us without funding for outreach between now and let's say July.

4081
05:53:35,080 --> 05:53:46,320
So I was hoping that this presentation would include an interim amount of request dollars, but in the absence of that.

4082
05:53:46,320 --> 05:53:53,940
I think it's really our community outreach partners who've been trained and to the degree that there's capacity to continue doing that outreach work.

4083
05:53:54,140 --> 05:53:56,660
We appreciate you. We rely on you so much.

4084
05:53:57,240 --> 05:54:03,060
And my last request is when this does come back to us for additional funding and there are additional trainings.

4085
05:54:03,440 --> 05:54:11,240
It would be lovely if we could include our board of supervisors, policy staff and outreach staff. We're out in the community all the time.

4086
05:54:11,240 --> 05:54:17,260
We have people contacting our offices all the time, and if my team is able to help expand the

4087
05:54:17,260 --> 05:54:22,860
reach and take the knowledge and training that you've made available to our partners, we definitely

4088
05:54:22,860 --> 05:54:27,800
want to be able to provide that support and assistance, even better than we already do.

4089
05:54:28,760 --> 05:54:37,880
So I don't, again, we would like to be a part of that. But I will wrap this up and say thank you.

4090
05:54:37,880 --> 05:54:43,760
And we look forward to, I could say for myself, I look forward to the request for dollars as we work through the budget.

4091
05:54:44,020 --> 05:54:45,880
I think this is really important work.

4092
05:54:47,120 --> 05:54:48,100
Thank you.

4093
05:54:48,980 --> 05:54:49,440
All right.

4094
05:54:50,380 --> 05:54:52,160
Can we move on without direction?

4095
05:54:54,300 --> 05:54:57,280
And item 20 is referral.

4096
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:12,800
Yes, and this was a referral that came in from supervisors Glenn Church and Chris Lopez. This is related to the renaming of the County of Monterey Agricultural Commissioners office.

4097
05:55:13,000 --> 05:55:24,920
It was received at the end of February and the purpose of the referral is to rename the Agricultural Commissioners office in Salinas to the County of Monterey Richard Nutter.

4098
05:55:24,920 --> 05:55:28,980
agricultural resource center in honor of Richard Nutter,

4099
05:55:29,240 --> 05:55:31,300
a Monterey County's longest serving.

4100
05:55:31,740 --> 05:55:36,620
I commissioner, he served from 1971 to 1998,

4101
05:55:37,600 --> 05:55:40,800
and first contributions to agricultural, including his work

4102
05:55:40,800 --> 05:55:43,580
on the California Organic Food Act,

4103
05:55:43,960 --> 05:55:46,440
Farmorker Safety Laws, Pesticide Regulations,

4104
05:55:46,620 --> 05:55:49,380
and Agricultural Trade, and Oversight.

4105
05:55:50,960 --> 05:55:53,440
And with that, turn it over, do.

4106
05:55:55,070 --> 05:56:02,080
which is a readup. Just open it up to public comment on item 20. The readout

4107
05:56:02,080 --> 05:56:05,460
seeing no public comment will close up a comment and bring it back to the CEO

4108
05:56:05,460 --> 05:56:07,620
for a comment. We got a question.

4109
05:56:09,020 --> 05:56:13,500
Just on the referral for our supervisors at church and Lopez, is it to just

4110
05:56:13,500 --> 05:56:18,080
name the building or the office itself? Okay. Okay, just well the location there.

4111
05:56:18,320 --> 05:56:22,320
Great, got it. The location there because it was named that one time for about 15

4112
05:56:22,320 --> 05:56:28,000
years. And then it was pulled off around 2013 because he was still alive. So we're just putting

4113
05:56:28,000 --> 05:56:29,720
it back now that Mr. Nudger's death.

4114
05:56:29,840 --> 05:56:35,020
There's a distinction between those two. So the one you're explaining it seems to be a little

4115
05:56:35,020 --> 05:56:36,340
easier to accomplish there, right?

4116
05:56:38,920 --> 05:56:44,040
Okay, so with that just a few comments, I'm not going to be very long. I just want to thank

4117
05:56:44,040 --> 05:56:51,480
everybody that's involved in supporting the Casa Nova folks that were displaced as a result

4118
05:56:51,480 --> 05:56:58,600
So the fire, we have quite a few departments involved from the county side, but this is an incident

4119
05:56:58,600 --> 05:57:03,940
that's being managed by the housing authority of Monterey County and the city of Monterey.

4120
05:57:04,400 --> 05:57:09,820
But we are providing support in terms of guidance of next steps for these individuals.

4121
05:57:10,300 --> 05:57:14,060
And our hope is that they will soon be back into permanent housing.

4122
05:57:14,560 --> 05:57:20,140
But there's quite a few things that need to be done at the site in Casanova and we are here

4123
05:57:20,140 --> 05:57:27,100
support as able. That's all I have today. Right, thank you. Then we'll go to board comments.

4124
05:57:28,460 --> 05:57:32,640
Would you like to start over? We're brief in just a few days. They were completing the

4125
05:57:32,640 --> 05:57:39,060
trifecta with Newcastle of Esperanza opening at Stores in King City. A welcome addition is a

4126
05:57:39,060 --> 05:57:45,480
research to community. Those experiencing homelessness and with that, I'll be brief and keep us moving.

4127
05:57:47,140 --> 05:57:59,380
I'll be brief too, just I already mentioned it, but tomorrow at the Prindale Grain's 537, the best ordinance update for community updates and input.

4128
05:58:00,120 --> 05:58:16,240
And then next week, Thursday, March 26th, 537, having my town hall around Creek Bridge, for the Creek Bridge Center, Sereniria, Sereniria there at Elver at Elver as High School at the Community Room.

4129
05:58:17,740 --> 05:58:21,000
I would just want to say, have you seen Patrick's Day?

4130
05:58:21,160 --> 05:58:23,480
I see Susan, our County Council is wearing green.

4131
05:58:23,820 --> 05:58:25,440
Supered to church, anybody else?

4132
05:58:26,220 --> 05:58:28,920
Oh, yeah, all right, clerk, have you seen Patrick's Day, everybody?

4133
05:58:30,380 --> 05:58:34,860
To all our Irish American County residents say, we celebrate with you.

4134
05:58:35,340 --> 05:58:38,620
I just wanted to say, report just last week, most of the last week I was in San Bernardino

4135
05:58:38,620 --> 05:58:38,980
County.

4136
05:58:39,420 --> 05:58:44,540
I want to receive an executive committee and our regional meetings to kind of highlight the

4137
05:58:44,540 --> 05:58:45,860
good work being done in that county.

4138
05:58:45,860 --> 05:58:54,320
So it was an honor to join my colleagues down there, including Sue Reiser, Jesse Edmund that is with that, that's all I got to report. Thanks.

4139
05:58:54,880 --> 05:58:55,700
All right, thank you.

4140
05:58:56,000 --> 05:59:06,860
And I'll just briefly say that we're having another open house in our district for office to coincide with an open house at the military and veterans affairs office on Thursday the 19th.

4141
05:59:07,540 --> 05:59:15,640
And that will run from about 10 to two. We'll have folks from Calvette and the VA president to help folk any of our military or veteran families.

4142
05:59:16,300 --> 05:59:23,480
I'm excited for benefits. We'll also have information and I'll have my staff available for anyone that wants to stop by and say hello. We'd love to see you.

4143
05:59:23,660 --> 05:59:30,600
All right. With that, we can go to our readout from close session. There's no reportable action.

4144
05:59:31,080 --> 05:59:36,480
All right. And with there are no adjournments and memories, so we will adjourn and we'll see everyone back here.

4145
05:59:36,920 --> 05:59:37,920
At our next meeting. Thank you.