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>>chair, doug chaffee: check
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>>v. Chair, katrina foley: check
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>>vincente sarmiento: check
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>>clerk, robin stieler: check check
>>chair, doug chaffee: this
morning I'm chair doug chaffee
and 4th district supervisor
and joined this morning with
vice-chair katrina foley.
National weights and measures
week is observed each year in
the first full week of MARCH.
We are in advance for a change,
recognition of PRESIDENT John
addams signing the first united
states weights and measures law
on MARCH 2, 1799.
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Every day 3.2 million residents
and businesses as well as 59
million-plus annual visitors
rely on accurate measurements
and pricing when purchasing
groceries, fuel, utilities,
consumer goods and services.
The orange county office of
weights and measures ensures
weighing and measuring devices
are accurate, protecting
millions of dollars in
transactions. With that, I'd
like to invite up jose air
yugoslav ga, the orange county
commissioner and also known as
the sealer of weights and
measures. Anthony lee, deputy
sealer of the weights measures,
and anna watts, our business
service analysts, hugo soto,
senior agricultural standards
inspector, marinda herr,
agricultural standards
inspector. Mark johnson, senior
agricultural standards
inspector, david scorski,
agricultural standards
inspector, and alicia barry, our
senior deputy D.A. So we do
have some oversight from the
D.A.'s office in here as well..
Orange county ranks third
statewide in the number of
commercial weighing and
measuring device under our
jurisdiction, reflecting the
scale and complexity of the
local economy. Through the
diligent work, the office of
weights and measures' staff,
consumers are protected and
ensured that prices are fair. I
want to thank staff for their
work that often goes
unrecognized. We'd now like to
invite vice-chair foley with any
remarks she'd care to make.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you. Great to be here. Good
morning. Katrina foley, county
supervisor representing the
fabulous fifth district. And as
mentioned by our CHAIRMAN, we
are today recognizing weights
and measures week here in orange
county. And this rear's theme
is "we measure what matters."
and this reflects our commitment
to fairness, accountability, and
public protection. Every time
residents fill up at the gas
pump, buy groceries or receive a
delivery, they trust that they
receive exactly what they paid
for. Dedicated professionals
like these behind me inspect,
test, and verify these systems
every single day. Our weights
and measures team at oc public
works safeguards consumer
dollars, ensures a level playing
field for businesses and quietly
keeps our local economy running
fairly and efficiently.
Standard measurements are so
important, and they help us
perform even simple tasks like
purchasing carpet, laundry
detergent, fabric, any number of
things. And I do think it's so
important because before I
became a county supervise, I
didn't even know that we had
this group. And so it's very
important because it's all about
protecting our consumers and
making sure, like I said, that
we get what we pay for. So
thank you for all of the work
that you do. And sometimes it's
hard because people get mad at
you and they don't like you in
their business. But you're
there to protect the consumers.
So thank you.
>>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,
vice-chair foley, thank you so
much for being here, and thank
you for the opportunity to be
here and highlight a little bit
of the work of the weights and
measures professionals. My name
is jose arriaga, also known as
the county sealer of weights and
measures. I want to share a
little bit of information what
is weights and measures. As
mentioned, sometimes we don't
even know what weights and
measures is, it's quietly in our
communities, but I assure you
that by the end of the day today
the work of the individuals will
touch your life and every single
day for the rest of our days,
every single resident is touched
by the work of these
individuals. When you pump fuel
at that gas station and you see
that seal that says it was
accurate when tested, that
ensures that that device -- we
call them a device -- it meets
the conform plans. It is within
a tolerance that ensures that
you get what you pay for. It's
not just the 20,000 gas pumps in
orange county, it also includes
the 100,000 water submeters,
20,000 electric watt meters, it
includes the thousands of scales
at grocery stores, and it's not
just devices, the work weights
and measures officials expands
beyond those devices. It also
applies to the price that you
pay. We do not set the price
but ensure that the price that
every consumer pays is the
lowest advertised price. We
have a team of secret shoppers,
some of them are here, where
they will go into thousands of
retail stores every year and
verify the accuracy of those
prices on the shelves against
the point of sales system. And
it's beyond pricing. When you
buy commodities by count,
weight, measure, when you pour a
gallon from a gallon of milk to
your 16 ounce box of cereal,
well, hopefully it's in a bowl,
how do you know there's a gallon
in there? When you buy items by
count, how do you know what's in
there by weight? The other
thing we do, one of the other
programs we play a critical role
here in our community is that
our officials respond to
hundreds of complaints of
residents where they buy canned
goods, packaged goods, and we're
verifying the accuracy of that
label and the content of those
containers.
We are protecting an $89 billion
retail economy, but more
importantly, we are protecting
an over$300 billion gdp economy
here in orange county. I do
want to thank the officials. I
want to thank the team here for
the work that they do every
single day. They are committed.
I also want to provide a
special thanks to our partners
with the district attorney's
office. A lot of our work
relies on compliance through
education, through awareness,
occasionally through
administrative actions, but
sometimes we have to go beyond
and do prosecutions and that is
where our district attorney's
office comes in. Alicia, thank
you so much for you and your
team for all of the help and
support. They help us achieve
our goals of protecting the
consumers hear in orange county.
With that, when we say thank
you. And if you ever feel that
anything you buy, the quantity,
the price, the weight is
inaccurate, please reach out to
our office. We are a very small
team. We do a lot of coverage,
but we actually need the help of
every single resident and every
single business in orange county
to help protect each other. So
please reach out to our office
if you have any questions, if he
ever want to learn about what we
do, if you want to come work
with us, it's an amazing job.
There's never a boring day here.
Thank you.
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>>chair, doug chaffee: and that
concludes our presentations this
morning. We will begin our
regular meeting at 9:30. Thank
you.
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>>speaker: good morning,
everyone. I'd like to welcome
you to this meeting FEBRUARY 24,
2026. Today the invocations
will be offered by vice-chair
foley and pledge of allegiance
led by supervisor nguyen. If
you're able, please stand.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: join
me today to pause for a moment
reflection before we begin the
work on behalf of our orange
county community. We join
together here with the shared
responsibility to serve every
constituent of our community
with speaking with grill and
purpose and moments when
disagreements grow MAY we
remember that public service
calls us to rise above division.
Let us all work harder and with
more intention to choose
collaboration over conflict and
solutions over spectacle. As
leaders we also have a duty to
protect and support the county
staff who carry out this work
for us every day. They look to
us for steadiness,
accountability and example. Our
conduct sets the tone. Ideally
we lead them and they help us
improve our county government by
trusting their commitment to
provide quality services and set
high standards for performance
and delivery of services. MAY
we remember that this work is
not about any one of us, it is
about all of us. We MAY not
always agree but we MAY disagree
with respect, work harder to
challenge ideas without
degrading one another and remain
productive rather than
interactive, when we falter or
slip up, MAY we also forgive and
commit to picking up another
plank to keep building the
bridges that keep us connected.
Our community benefits when we
build bridges, not barriers.
And when we focus on helping
lift up all segments of our
community.. As we watch bombs
bursting, builds blow up and
other chaos in other countries
and communities, let us
recognize the privilege we share
to live and serve here and the
duty to move forward together
for the entire county to protect
this paradise we call home. I
look forward a protective
meeting with you all. Thank
you. Please join me in the
pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to my flag
to the united states of america
and to the republic for which it
stands, one nation, under GOD,
indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
supervisors foley and nguyen. A
couple of reminders for today's
meeting, please use the main
entrance when entering and
leaving the room. All the other
doors are alarmed and for
emergency exit only. Please set
all cell phones to "mute" or
vibrate at this time for the
duration of the meeting. A list
of changes to today's agenda
along with the agenda requests
to speak are locate in the lobby
outside the boardroom. We'll be
breaking for lunch around the
noon hour during which time
we'll also recess to closed
sessions.
Feed the parking validation for
the p4 parking lot, please see
the deputy clerk next to the
podium and you'll see a parking
validation card. We now will
proceed to the agenda for this
morning's meeting. This agenda
contains a brief description of
each item to be considered
except as provided by law, no
action maybe taken to any item
not appearing in today's agenda.
The agenda is divide into
sections, all matters on the
scent calendar are proved by --
a -- on the consent calendar are
approved by one motion, a board
member or member of the public
MAY have a separate action on a
specific item. If you wish to
address the board, please
complete a speaker request form.
To be heard on a consent
calendar item, the completed
form must be deposited in the
box next to the podium prior to
the beginning of the consent
calendar. As to all other items
to ensure smooth conduct in
meetings, speaker requests must
be turned in prior to the
reading of an individual item,
including public comments.
Speakers MAY address the board
up to three occasions for three
minutes allotted to the speaker
per occasion. When you're
called to special please step to
the podium, we request that you
state your name and city of
residence for the record.
Please note the light on the
podium. The green light means
you have three minutes. The
light changes to yellow when you
have 1 minute. The light turns
to red when your time has
expired. We ask that you
observe the time limit so that
all who wish to speak will have
an opportunity do so.
Addressing the board, we address
the board as a whole through the
chair.. We're moving to -- I'm
changing this around a little
built. Normally we have board
comments that the time. I'm
going to move that to the end of
the meeting instead. And so now
we'll move to our agenda items.
I ask the clerk to identify any
changes to the agenda, any
requests received from the
public to pull an item from the
consent calendar for separate
consideration. MADAM Clerk.
>>clerk, robin stieler: on
discussion calendar, item 22 has
been deleted. And closed
sessions cs-1 has also been
deleted. The public has
requested to pull item 4 from
the consent calendar.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I would
like to move item, I believe,
it's 28, to be heard after item
17 since item 18 can be directed
by that item. That's the board
procurement item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: did
you say 22, grants committee
report --
>>chair, doug chaffee: no. I
meant 28.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 22 was
deleted. Excuse me. 23. 23.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
I thought so. Thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
I'd ask my colleague if there
are any items you'd like to hear
separately on the consent
calendar. We have requests from
the public that item 4 be heard
separately. Except for, that
MAY I have a motion --
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the balance.
>>don wagner: second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Seeing none,
carried. Item 4.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 4.
Under oc community resources,
Approve master agreement for oc
Animal Care services, 6/1/26-
5/31/31; authorize Director
or designee to execute
individual agreements, make
minor changes and renew
agreements under certain conditions.
And we have one requests to
speak on agenda item 4.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please
call the speaker.
>>clerk, robin stieler: michael
m.
>>speaker: thank you. Michael m
from irvine. In the last year,
the animal shelter has made
significant strides, thanks to
this board. I am grateful to
those who led these positive
changes and as a proud resident
of the third district also to
supervisor wagner for his
support. To sustain the
progress we need to follow up on
the shelter's strategic plan,
which defines how the board, its
cities and community expect the
shelter to operate. We as a
county spent thousands of hours
and hundreds of thousands of
dollars to put this plan
together. The board voted for
the strategic plan as the
blueprint for shelter
operations. I urge the board
and the animal shelter to follow
up on last year's improvements
and put the shelter on a good
path that fixes persisting
promise and prevents
backsliding. The plan there, we
just need work on
implementation. Thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
for your comments. Back to the
board for consideration. Do we
have a motion.
>>janet nguyen: I'll move it
with comments, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please go
ahead, prfers nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: I just want to
first thank monica, dillon and
the oc animal staff for putting
these contracts together.
Really thankful that there's no
increase in our rates as well,
because, you know, it's a tough
time for cities and -- but, yet,
you know, we are still providing
the services and making sure
that these contracts -- well,
making sure that we don't
increase the rates for the
cities. And so I appreciate all
that they've done. And I agree
with our speakers that, you
know, oc animal has made
significant changes last year,
you know, so please know that we
appreciate you, but there is
still some work to be done. And
I -- you know, I know that
you're working on a strategic
plan. Staff has told my office
that you're compiling a report
to, you know -- on the 2018
strategic plan that would be
coming to the board. I'm hoping
maybe if you can give us a
report in the next 30 days on
where you're at with that and
when we will see it moving
forward, whether it's a board
hearing, then we will accept
your report or a report to the
board itself. So again, I'm
excited to support this item and
looking forward to more great
things and collaboration with oc
animal in the community. Thank
you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you, supervisor nguyen.
Supervisor sarmiento.
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
MR. Chair, and thank you to the
speaker for his comments. I
certainly appreciate and agree
with them, and I want to
actually also thank the
community members that helped
influence the changes that were
made since, you know, I've been
on this board and thank the
staff at animal care, dillon and
monica and others that made
these changes that are very
reasonable. So I do think we
have a great outline of what we
need to do with the strategic
plan, and it was adopted in
2018. I simply think that we
need to make sure that the
public gets to see
compliance,
implementation, and those
regular reports and making sure
that we're meeting the metrics,
the goals stated in that
strategic plan. So to the
extent that something is brought
back, I think we need to do
something on a periodic basis,
and make sure that we're able to
see almost as a dashboard,
right, to see how we're doing on
these different concerns that we
have, that are outlined in the
strategic plan. So I am
supportive of all that's been
said, and obviously on this
underlying item, which is sort
of unrelated to the strategic
plan implementation. But I do
think maybe we should bring
something back that's a little
bit more formal that will give
some guidance on how to make
sure we're complying with the
strategic plan periodically for
the public to see. So I am
supportive these -- of the
underlying item, as well. Thank
you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. Any more comment?
Seeing none, we have a motion.
Any objection? The item is
approved. Thank you. Item 7.
Is that where we're at? Item 7,
yes. That would conclude our
consent calendar.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 7.
Under Treasurer-Tax Collector-
Approve transfer of funds
($62,669.16) From Probation Fund
to Probation Victim Restitution
Fund and transfer of escheated
funds ($74,056.03) From
Sheriff-Coroner Fund to County
General Fund. It does require a
vote.
>>chair, doug chaffee: an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll
second the item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no
one wants to support this, I
guess.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Seeing none, it
required a 4/5th vote. We
have unanimous approval of that
item. Item 8, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 8.
Under health care agency,
Approve amendment 2 to renew
contract ma-042-24010172 with
The Regents of the University of
California, on behalf of uc
Irvine School of Medicine,
Department of Psychiatry for
physician services, 7/1/26-
6/30/28 ($1,210,000; cumulative
total $3,025,000); And
authorize County Procurement
Officer or Deputized designee to
execute amendment. We have no
requests to speak on agenda item
8.
>>chair, doug chaffee: lgt a
district 2 item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Item is approved.
Item 9, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 9.
Under health care agency,
Approve amendment 6 to renew
contract ma-042-23011035 with
ocy Management, llc for
non-emergency transportation
services, 7/1/26-6/30/28
($1,000,000; cumulative total
$4,650,000); and authorize
County Procurement Officer or
Deputized designee to execute
amendment. We have no requests
to speak on agenda item 9.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 10.
Under health care agency,
approve amendment 6 to renew
contract ma-042-20011621 with
anaheim global medical center,
inc. For inpatient hospital
services for correctional health
services, 7/1/26-6/30/28
($12,833,874; cumulative total
$49,855,154); and authorize
county procurement officer or
deputized designee to execute
amendment. S we have no
requests to speak.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
district 3 item.
>>janet nguyen: thank you. I
received a contribution of over
$1,000 for ocy management back
in 2025.
Since the contribution exceeds
the 500 threshold set by the
management, I am recusing myself
from participating in this
discussion.
>>leon page: and that was item 9
and 10, supervisor, correct?
Where you intend to recuse
yourself? If the board would
permit to reflect that
supervisor nguyen did not
participate in the board
deliberation vote on item 9,
which we already did, and now
we're on number 10.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
move to re-open item 9 for --
item no. 9 for a second vote.
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll move
the item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection?
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: you
have to make the disclosure.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm not
sure where we are here.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: now
we have to vote on item 9.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. We had a motion, and
supervisor sarmiento would like
to make a comment.
>>vincente sarmiento: on item 10
10.
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
We're back to 9.
>>vincente sarmiento: I moved
item 9.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and I
seconded.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Seeing none, item 9
is approved.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: with
one abstention.
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
With one abstention. Okay.
Sorry. All right. That gave us
a majority vote. Now we're on
item 10, that's a district 2 and
3 item.
>>vincente sarmiento: that,
MR. Chair. I'd like to have
DR. Kelly, if she can, maybe
come and share some thoughts on
this. I want to make sure that
we are clear. I know this is
for services for our in-custody
population. So medical care and
hospital care. So to the
extent, DR. Kelly, if you could
just walk us through.
>>leon page: and I think
supervisor nguyen has been
announcement on this as well.
>>janet nguyen: I do. I would
like to also recuse myself from
this vote, as well. I received
a contribution of $2500 from
strategic global management,
inc. Which is affiliated with
anaheim global medical center
back on MAY 12th, 2025 for
this item. I'm recushion myself
from participating in any
discussion or vote on this
matter. Thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. Any more comments?
>>speaker: good morning,
CHAIRMAN Chaffee, honorable
board. DR. Kelly, director of
the orange county healthcare
agency. Were there specific
questions you had or you just
want an overview.
>>vincente sarmiento: I know we
went to procurement for this.
We had two responses. I know
that anaheim global is the
prevailing bidder on this.
Number one, explain what the
item is, it's an important one,
and number 2, what are your
thoughts going forward? Does
this benefit the county? I know
this is trying to include
cal-aim to be able to maybe
address some of the cost
concerns. But if you can,
please --
>>speaker: this stem to renew
inpatient services for
correctional health. And so the
vendor is anaheim global medical
center. They provide medical
care for inmates who require
outpatient specialty care such
as dialysis that can't be done
in custody or inpatient care, if
someone is having a cardiac
issue, they're giving birth. So
they provide that medical care.
>>vincente sarmiento: who are we
billing for this? Who's paying
for this.
>>speaker: none of that is
billable to any insurance. That
is full net county cost. The
item you talked about cal-aim
jail in range is for a very
specific cost that would not
include these services. It
would include some services we
provide for correctional health,
evaluations, medical evaluations
of inmates, providing
medication. And we are going to
start that APRIL 1st, and we
can only provide that and bill
the state for those services,
for people who are eligible for
medi-cal, and that would be for
90 days prior to their release.
Carnals so 83% of this is born
by the county, that county cost
17% realignment dollars. Your
recommendation, we just went out
on an rfp, do you think we
should go out on one soon
after.
>>speaker: we are going to be
starting another rfp. Usually
they take 12 to 18 months. This
is harder service to find
appropriate vendors for because
of the population and the
custody, the hard custody
requirements. So change in the
actual building space itself.
So we will be shortly after --
if this report approves, we will
go out for another rfp.
>>vincente sarmiento: I'm
supportive of that. That's what
I wanted to get on the the
record make sure that that's
understood, giving my support
for this item. I'll go ahead
and move this item based on
attempt that from your team.
Thanks.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
seconded. Was there an
abstention?
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.
>>chair, doug chaffee: noting
the abstention, the item is
approved, 4 votes. Item 11,
please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 11.
Under health care agency,
approve amendment 2 to renew
contract ma-042-23011108 with
sdxray inc. For direct digital
radiology services for
correctional health services
programs, 7/1/26-6/30/28
($4,214,240; cumulative total
$10,535,600); and authorize
county procurement officer or
deputized designee to execute amendment.
We have no requests to speak on
agenda item 11.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
district 2 and 3 item. Moved
and seconded. Any objection?
The item is approved. Item 12,
please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 12.
Under health care agency,
approve amendment 2 to renew
contract ma-042-23011109 with
correctional managed care,
medical corporation, for
physician services for
correctional health services
programs, 7/1/26-6/30/28
($6,955,868; cumulative total
$16,410,125); and authorize
county procurement officer or
deputized designee to execute amendment.
We have no requests to speak on
agenda item 12.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
district 2 and 3 item. Any
objection? Item is approved.
Item 13, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 13.
Under john wayne airport,
approve subordinate contract
ma-280-26010529 with siemens
industry, inc. For facility
security systems, equipment, and
software with related services,
4/23/26-2/18/29 ($2,800,000);
renewable for one additional
two-year term; authorize county
procurement officer or deputized
designee to execute contract;
and make californi environmental
quality act (Ceqa) Exemption
findings under ceqa guidelines
section 15378. We have no
requests to speak on agenda item
13.
>>chair, doug chaffee: item 13 a
district 5 item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Motion carries.
Unanimously. Next item is 14.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 14.
Under oc community resources,
approve amendment 1 to contract
ma-012-25011237 with citiguard,
inc. For unarmed security guard
services at various county
library branch locations, 4/1/26
-3/31/30 ($2,050,000;
cumulative total $2,250,000);
and authorize county procurement
officer or deputized designee to
execute amendment and future
amendments under certain conditions.
Question have no requests to
speak on agenda item 14.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Item is approved.
Item 15, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 15.
Under oc community resources,
approve amendment 7 to contract
ma-012-23011443 with council on
aging-southern california,
inc. For senior health insurance
counseling and advocacy program
services, 4/1/26-3/31/27
($601,668; cumulative total
$1,808,627); and authorize
county procurement officer or
deputized designee to execute
amendment and future amendments
under certain conditions. We
have no requests to speak.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item. Any
objection? Item is approved.
Item 16.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 16.
Under oc public works, adopt
resolution initiating 2026 weed
abatement program and setting
public hearing for 4/14/26, 9:30
A.M. To consider assessment to
private property for cost
removal of weeds by county or
contractor; and make california
environmental quality act (Ceqa)
Exemption findings under ceqa
guidelines section 15304. We
have no requests to speak on
agenda item 16.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item. Moved and
seconded. Any objection?
Motion carries. Item 17, please
please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 17.
Under oc public works, approve
aggregate contract
ma-080-26010053 with various
contractors for sanitation and
remediation removal &
decontamination services, 3/9/26
-3/8/29 (Aggregate total
$1,800,000); renewable for one
additional two-year term;
authorize county procurement
officer or deputized designee to
execute contract; and make
california environmental
quality act (Ceqa) Exemption
findings under ceqa guidelines
sections 15301 and 15308 we have
no if to speak on agenda item
17.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
seconded, any objection? Motion
approved. I'd like now to move
to item 28.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 28.
Under county executive office-
acting as the orange county
board of supervisors and orange
county flood control district-
adopt 2026 contract policy
manual, effective 2/24/26
2/24/26; authorize county
executive officer or designee to
make changes under certain
conditions; and adopt amended
resolution authorizing director
of oc public works,
sheriff-coroner or designees to
advertise bids in accordance
with public contract code
sections 22037, 22032(C) And 20128.5.
We have no if to speak on agenda
item 28.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>janet nguyen: I have a
question, MR. CHAIRMAN
supervisor supervisor nguyen.
Go ahead.
>>janet nguyen: any staff here?
Maria, just, real quick, I
know -- first, thank you. You
did a phenomenal job in putting
all of our thoughts and comments
and questions from last week --
or two weeks ago now. My only
question is, I know that you've
mentioned this, but I wanted to
make sure that the -- under the
board's approval on the power
presentation, it says -- where
it describes the changes to rfp
and rfq comes to the board for
selection and then staff
negotiates the contract and then
comes back to the board for
final approval. But on the
package itself, I don't see the
rfp. I only see rfq. Am I
missing somewhere? I just want
to make sure that it is
consistent and that it's in the
manual.
>>speaker: good morning,
CHAIRMAN, vice-chair, members of
the board. Yes, the change
applies to all ASRs for
contract award.
>>janet nguyen: so rfp and --
>>speaker: any contracts coming
to the board. They will now
come one time for selection
earlier on in the process,
asking for authority to then
negotiate an award. But we will
be coming earlier in the
process.
>>janet nguyen: okay. So that's
not just an rfq for joc and a&e
contracts, but for all.
>>speaker: any contract coming
to the board for award.
>>janet nguyen: okay. Is it
somewhere here? Because I just
want to make sure that a year
from now when we're talking
about the manual, they're like,
we only did what the manual
says.
>>speaker: cpm is silent on that
procedural asr procedure. So
the change also be in the
procedures manual as well as the
asr guidance dewpoints. So cpm
is kind of silent on the process
to get board approval.
>>janet nguyen: why?
>>speaker: because we refer to
the asr guidance document and
our producers manual.
>>janet nguyen: when you have
that, can you send it up to us.
>>speaker: definitely.
>>janet nguyen: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor sarmiento.
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
MR. Chair, and thank you, marie
back for you and your team
making sure -- I think
everything that was discussed at
the last meeting was included.
Sounds like it was pretty
comprehensive. Just going back
to the question that supervisor
nguyen was asking, the one
change about having the items,
these contracts come to the
board first to give authority
for you and your team to
negotiate or for the contracts
to be negotiated, so we'll be
seeing these in advance of that.
Does it come back to us, or is
it pretty much once we give
authority for you to then
negotiate those contracts, are
you now delegated with that?
>>speaker: we will be asking for
that delegated authority.
However, the board has the
opportunity to ask us to come
back for an a -- back forward at
any gufn time.
>>vincente sarmiento: when you
bring back the results of, you
know, the rfp, rfq, it will come
with no staff recommendation.
It simply comes back with data?
>>speaker: he will come back
with the rank order of the
results of the evaluation.
>>vincente sarmiento: look, to
me -- and I understand, you
know, what we're doing. We want
to be more objective, maybe a
more open process for the board
to be able to make a decision.
I just want you to know, my
understanding of staff
recommending the way we have the
existing procedure now where
staff would come back and
recommend a vendor or vendors
based upon, you know, the
procurement process, I always
thought, was fair. That doesn't
mean that this board has to
follow staff's recommendation.
It could deviate for whatever
reason. We could just see
things a little differently.
But the guidance from an
unbiased, technical subject
matter, you know, a group of
people on panels, that are
taking a deeper dive on this has
always been instructive. Not
depositive, but, you know,
helpful. So, you know, I didn't
want that to be lost. But at
the same time I think maybe the
school board looking at having
an unvarnished, you know, no
preference from staff on this.
But I don't know if a hybrid
would be better where it comes
to us early and the staff gives
us their thoughts on, you know,
what they believe would be the
preferential vendor or the
vendor that, you know, seems to
be better suited, based on
costs, experience, business
plan, whatever criteria we have.
I just didn't want to dismiss
all our subject matter experts
that are able to, you know, take
a deeper dive than we would on
this. Again, just for guidance.
Not for any rubber stamping or
doing anything else. It's just
simply been helpful. So go
ahead, maria.
>>speaker: one suggestion is we
could put in the background
information of each asr based on
the information or evaluation --
or information contained the
staff -- we could provide some
sort of recommendation based on
the information collected
through the evaluation process.
>>vincente sarmiento: right.
And that doesn't mean that's
going, to again, determine where
this board is going to go. We
could certainly take that into
consideration or not and just
simply, you know, go in a
different direction. I do think
having staff give us some idea
and some sense of the rationale
of how we arrived at ranking and
how these different applicants
did, I think, is fair. So to
the extent that would be
something that could be included
in the process, again, that
would be helpful, I think, as --
you know, for the public as well
as for us.
>>speaker: there is procedural
language until background of
asr. We could put something in
there and draft it and extend to
the board's office for your
concurrence.
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN?
MAY I?
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor foley is next.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you. Mine will be quick. I
just want to thank your team in
procurement as well as all of
the department procurement team
members for helping us get
through this process. It's my
understanding that you all took
another look, and the $3 million
was gonna be okay in terms of
efficiencies, and so I think
this contract policy manual
helps us to accomplish two
things. It keeps us efficient
in our progression and prevents
us from having any delays in our
projects, but also, you another
a little bit more oversight and
accountability by the board.
And I'm hoping that if at all
you think that it's starting to
bog down, that you will alert
us, because we have a lot of
projects underway. We don't
want to get bogged down. And so
please do alert us. Thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: thank you,
MR. CHAIRMAN. I want to follow
up on what supervisor sarmiento
mentioned. My understanding is
that staff would do your panel
interview and everything, and
then you would give us all that
data so we would know -- because
staff would usually take the
highest score. So we would know
that would be the selection of
staff, and then we would be up
here making that decision. And
the only reason is last year we
had so many of those came here
afterward, and staff was -- put
so much time in getting these
contracts and everything
negotiated, and then you had to
start over. And so that's why,
you know -- so it isn't that
we're just being handed, here,
have at it. You're going to
give us the data, the panel,
scoring, and all of that
information, and then we get to
make that -- we would then
deliberate and make that
decision.
>>speaker: correct.
>>janet nguyen: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. I'd like to thank you for
the incredible line of work the
staff has put in. It's been a
long haul. And thank you for
helping us understand the
definition of "commodities" a
little better. It's more than
just gold and silver bars. And
with that, I think we have a
motion. Any objection? The
item is approved. Thank you for
your good work.
>>speaker: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: and now
we come back to item 18.
18. Approve job order contracts
with various contractors for
general contracting services,
oneyear term ($5,000,000 each);
and authorize director or
designee to execute contracts.
And we have no requests to speak
on item 18.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item. Supervisor
wagner.
>>don wagner: before we do that,
though, I think this is an item
that's $5 million per contract,
and we just talked about and
voted on $3 million. How is
this going to work? Kevin, can
you live with $3 million? Or do
you want to add some other
companies to make up the
difference, or how -- help me
square these two. I just didn't
want this to fly past us.
>>michelle aguirre: kevin,
before you respond, I think as
part the policy, right, the ends
something for most types of
contracts, most types of work,
the $3 million will suffice.
But there are some areas like
the one that you see before you,
the general contracting, where
at least for this upcoming year,
based on the number of projects,
the analysis that staff has
done, a higher amount is
warranted, and departments would
bring those requests based on
their analysis. You MAY
occasionally see something that
deviates from the $3 million,
about you has to be justified by
the department, and then that's
why we've got kevin here, to
explain a little bit more
related to the general
contracting.
>>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,
members of the board, kevin
aloom know, oc public works.
The reason why we're
recommending a higher dollar
amount is joc contracts are low
bid. If we went with the $3
million limit, we had 17
responsive bids, we'd be using
the contractors with the highest
prices, so we'd be paying more
for the work. That why we're
recommending fewer contracts at
a higher dollar amount so we can
keep it at more of the low
bidders.
>>don wagner: is that true of
all joc contracts?
>>speaker: well, the joc
contracts for general
contracting as michelle said
tend to be a larger dollar
amount. The other joc contracts
when it's specific to a trade,
plumbing and so on, the need for
those are the project size and
total dollar amounts tending to
smaller.
>>don wagner: so despite our
policy and putting the $3
million into the contract policy
manual you expect on general
contracting to keep coming back
to us for higher amounts? So we
should just be prepared for
that?
>>speaker: in general, yes. But
it depends on the capital
projects that are approved by
the board. If we have less,
maybe we can get by with the
smaller dollar amount.
>>don wagner: all right. Thank
you. I'll move the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: if I MAY
comment, when we do the asr and
it exceeds the policy amount,
then we shrewed a paragraph in
there describing that and
justifying it, if we can have
that in the future ASRs,
that'd be helpful.
>>speaker: will do.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. Supervisor sarmiento.
>>vincente sarmiento: and the
chair just kind of said exactly
weigh intended to say. Are we
calling this an exemption, an
exception, a justification?
What term of art are we going to
see in that additional
paragraph, just so we're clear
on the term? Maybe we should
and our county counsel, I'm not
sure if -- I've heard exemption,
i've heard exception.
>>speaker: we can develop that
language and alert the board.
>>vincente sarmiento: and I
appreciate the $3 million
because when I saw the data that
you sent our office, the bulk of
the contracts are $3 million and
below. So that's why we landed
on this amount. There are --
there obviously were other
contracts outside of that
amount, but the bell curve, I
guess if you look at it, was the
median washed $3 million and
below. I just want to make sure
we have our terms correct.
>>speaker: we will get that out
to you.
>>vincente sarmiento: thank
you.
>>chair, doug
thank you
vice-chair foley.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you. I'm not sure what we're
going to get because that was
the language we voted on. We
specifically added that sentence
that said for anything above $3
million we would come to the
board with a justification.
It's not an exemption. It's
just justification, for
exceeding the $3 million. So I
feel like we already have it in
there. If we're going to change
it, what do we need to change it
to? We've already said it.
>>vincente sarmiento: the only
reason why I mentioned it is
because I've heard exemption
from staff exceptions as well.
If we're not going to use
justification, I wanted to see
if there was any other language
besides that. But if it's
justification, then that's the
term.
>>michelle aguirre: departments
will be required, right, to
justify it within the background
exception of the asr. But what
the asr document does is provide
standard like template language
so that when you see, that we
have consistent language across
all ASRs for all departments
that kind of lead up to that
justification. So that's what
maria was referring to. We can
provide that standard language.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so it
will say "justification" and
then whatever it is.
>>michelle aguirre: exactly.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
Thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: thank you,
MR. CHAIRMAN. So kevin...
What are these projects? What's
the $5 million each company --
what are they doing?
>>speaker: the projects are
listed in attachment m. So
they're the projects that have
been approved by the board as a
product of capital improvement
projects with the budget or with
the sfp. It includes projects
for fy25/26 and also projects
that were included in the sfp
for fy '26/27 and on.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
libraries, public parks, --
public works, the gas
compressors, probation, juvenile
hall, sprinkler system, it's on
page 18 of the staff report.
Orangewood children family
center rehab, the manchester
office building, several
different ada and fire panel
upgrades. A lot of parks,
libraries, town valley library
roof, hvac, westminster roof
hvac, interior refresh for the
library..
>>janet nguyen: thank you. And
I think what would be helpful,
kevin, is maybe this page should
be part of it, asr, so we see
right away what these projects
are or what you're working on
versus having it in the back.
Because I think -- you know, I
want to also make sure that the
public knows that we are giving
you the $5 million outside the
manual. I mean, basically it's
your justification.
>>speaker: so put in the body of
the asr instead of the
attachment.
>>janet nguyen: yes, thank you.
>>speaker: okay.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. We have a motion. Any
objection? Item is approved.
Thank you. Item 19, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 19.
Under oc public works, consider
second reading and adoption of
"an ordinance of the county of
orange, state of california,
amending sections 3-14-2 through
3-14-16, 5-1-31, 5-1-33 and
7-9-103 of the codified
ordinances of the county of
orange"; and adopt resolution
adopting zoning code amendment
ca 25-02 (County of orange
commercial cannabis activities
and outdoor personal cultivation
prohibition ordinance). Woe have
no requests to speak on agenda
item 19.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. This is an interesting
item in that we catch property
owners who are profiting well
illegal cannabis trade. I think
it's a good ordinance. Any
objection? Motion carries.
thank you. Item 20 please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 20.
Under oc waster & recycling,
approve amendment 1 to renew
contract ma-299-22011684 with
stearns, conrad and schmidt,
consulting engineers dba scs
field services for landfill gas
services, central region,
4/10/26-4/9/28 ($11,000,000;
cumulative total $27,500,000);
authorize county procurement
officer or deputized designee to
make minor changes under certain
conditions and execute
amendment; and make california
environmental quality act (Ceqa)
Exemption findings under ceqa
guidelines sections 15301,
15304, and 15308. We have no
requests to speak on agenda item
20.
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is a
district 2, 3, and 5 item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
seconded. Any objection? Item
is approved. Item 21, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 21.
Under oc waste & recycling,
adopt county of orange climate
action planning document; direct
staff to begin implementation
phase and analysis; and make
california environmental quality
act (Ceqa) Exemption findings
under ceqa guidelines section
15262 and public resources code
sections 21083 and 21150. And
MR. Chair, we very received
three requests to speak on
agenda item 21.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please
call the speakers.
>>clerk, robin stieler: paulina
alvarez, anna gromas, and jeff
weaver.
>>speaker: good morning, chair
chaffee and members of the
board. My name is paulina
alvarez, and I'm the government
affairs manager for the orange
county business council. We
support thoughtful,
cost-effective, and achievable
climate policies and appreciates
the county's efforts to address
greenhouse gas emissions and
sustainability. Our concern is
chapter 4 community climate
action introduces measures that
could create uncertainty and
unintended consequences for
house production, economic
development and private
investment in un-incorporated
areas. Measure cm2 reduce
vehicles miles travels vmt
encourages reduction of vmt
through public outreach and
incentives. Our concern is vmt
is already regulated under state
law including sb-743 and ceqa.
Additional local measures could
duplicate standards and increase
entitlement uncertainty and ce1
promotes building
decarbonization. The concern is
it could raise construction
costs, constrain housing supply
and complicate private
development particularly amid
california's housing
affordability crisis.
Incorporating the cap into the
general plan could
unintentionally turn
aspirational goals into binding
land use standards raising
secret disputes and feasibility
challenges. Ocbc recommends the
following, remove chapter 4
community climate action from
phase 2, avoid incorporating
community cap measures into the
general plan in a way that
affects private development, and
focus the cap on county
operations and facilities to
ensure clarity and legal
defensibility and
economic competitiveness. Ocbc
remains committed to
collaborating with the county on
climate strategies that are
effective, achievable and
supportive of orange county's
economy. Thank you for your
time.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you.
>>speaker: good morning, chair
chaffee and supervisors. Anna
gromas here representing the
building industry association in
the orange county chapter. The
first outline was OCTOBER of
2025 and the second one being in
JANUARY of 2026, we still have
concerns with the cap as it is
written in chapter 4 is still
problematic to us. There's a
lot of combyity that surrounds
the language on decarbon sayings
and vmt. We kindly ask that
that section be omitted from the
cap. In addition in the
JANUARY 2026 draft comprehensive
general plan update that is
currently out for public review,
implementation of the cap was
listed as an action item under
the resource management elements
section. The building industry
is justifiably concerned that
incorporating the climate action
plan into the general plan will
unintentionally turn advisory
climate objectives into binding
land use mandates. When goals
are elevated into the general
plan, they assume the same legal
bhait weight as other general
plan policies. That the county
must use when conditioning,
approving or denying development
complications. If the cap is
incorporated into the --
development applications. If
the cap is incorporated, there's
a significant risk that the
broad, long-term community
greenhouse gas reduction goals
could be applied rigidly to
individual projects without
consideration or proportionality
or feasibility. It would switch
the cap from a planning guide
into a binding standard of
review. Developers could be
required to prove that their
projects meet community wide
goals. This creates entitlement
risks and the potential for ceqa
disputes over targets that were
originally meant to be
aspirational and not mandatory.
From the beginning the county
indicated that the cap would not
be applied to private
development and un-incorporated
areas. The cap goals should
remove references to private
development, should not be
incorporated into the general
plan as doing so could turn
community-wide aspirations into
inflexible and enforceable
mandates on individual prisons.
We thank you for your time and
consideration, and we look
forward to continuing our work
with the county on this
mattered.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. Next speaker, please.
>>speaker: good afternoon,
board. I'm jeff weaver from san
juan capistrano, the home of the
prima desay sha landfill
problem. We talked last time
about the massive amount of
toxic gas that comes out of each
landfill. The prima landfill is
located about a mile from san
juan hills high school. At the
current status before the
expansion -- and I'd like to get
some definition. Expansion, we
talked last time -- or you
talked to tom petition troll
liss last time about expansion.
I think we spent $100 million on
to so-called expansion. This is
it. This is what they're
tearing apart right now. You
see this from miles away. The
problem is it's one mile from
our high school. And the high
school kids have no choice but
to breathe this toxic gas. Oc
waste and recycling and its
climate action plan calls it
odor. Well, the way they
control the odor, they drive
around and sniff and spray
febreze type stuff to decrease
the odor. And doesn't mean
you're not smelling it. But if
you're smelling it, it's really
bad. And these kids are out
there on the track team or the
football team, running as hard
as they can, they don't know
that they're breathing these
toxic fumes that are
consistently over 1 million
cubic feet per day that gets
released, uncontrolled release
from this landfill. So that's
our big concern. And in the
climate action plan they mandate
aggressive methane management.
And all I see in the climate
action plan are drones. $25
million for drones. They have a
thing that says "drones are
tackling methane gas." I
watched the super bowl. I saw a
lot of tackling. I don't know
how it's even possible for a
drone to tackle an invisible
gas. But I like the definition
on how the drone tackles the
gas. I'd like the definition on
how older is a toxic gas and the
expansion. Is that an
expansion? It looks like an
expansion, and there's been over
$100 million on this expansion.
This be landfill will be in
operation for 75 years. It's
going to be producing this
methane for over 100 years. But
the problem is, this methane is
fuel. If we tap this methane,
our plan is to cap this
landfill, tap the landfill and
produce 20 megawatts of energy
that will power the desal plant
and the entire city of san juan
capistrano for the next 100
years. We want to put an
amendment that you at least look
at our plan. I've talked to two
of the staff of the board
members here -- or the
supervisors. I've been waiting
to talk to katrina foley for
almost two years now, and I met
with alyssa. I was supposed to
have a meeting with her. I've
been waiting two years. But
until the climate action plan
came out and environmental
impact report came out just last
month, we didn't have a whole
lot of data to go on. The funny
thing is the data they're study
something from 2018 on the gas
that's released from these
landfills. 2018. That's the
current data. I'm sorry -- I'm
running a little long.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you, sir.
>>speaker: please someone talk
to us about this. We have a
plan, we have engineers.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you, sir.
>>speaker: we can have our own
financing and won't cost a dime
and we can save the kids from
the poisonous gas at san juan
hills high school. Please help
us.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor wagner.
>>don wagner: real quick, we're
all at the octa board yesterday.
We had been in discussion about
one of these climate action
plans or a plan that carbon come
up with the ict, how it's
failing. A newspaper article
over the weekend, I want to say
wall street journal, it MAY have
been somewhere else. It
explained that the world has
spent $16 trillion with a "t" --
trillion dollars on climate
action plans this and climate
environmental worries that and
climate the other thing. And
we're still spending that money,
and we aren't really achieving
anything close to what is
promised. With we are also not
seeing the ice melt in the artic
and the polar bears drowning
that al gore worried about in
the '90s when he said we only
have about 10 more years to fix
this problem. Anyway, it's a
long way of saying we've wasted
an enormous amount of time on
this. That said, as a realist
and being in california, I
recognize we need to have a
climate action plan in order to
get the funding that is
absolutely critical to this
government doing the basic
function it is needs to do. We
will not be eligible for grants
without it. And so I am not
prepared to vote against the
entire climate action plan.
Though, I believe it is a
grotesque waste of money, it is
the game the state forces us to
play. That said, I think
there's a lot to recommend the
views of our business champions
who are here, who recognize that
business and people being able
to do business for themselves
means the government needs to do
less. We can be smaller and be
more responsive. And that said,
that is a long way of saying we
ought to take them at their
word, we ought to do the minimum
that we need to do to play the
game the state forces us to
play, and with that, I move
approval the climate action plan
with the complete removal of
chapter 4, community climate
action. That's my motion.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: sorry. And I'll
second that. I agree. I mean,
we do -- I've been in
sacramento. I've heard all of
these arguments. I've been in
many, many hearings as well,
and, you know, I continue to ask
the question what has the
results been for us in
sacramento? And there's never
been an answer. The answer has
always been, well, we just gotta
set a very high bar and
hopefully we'll get there
eventually. So, I mean, but,
you know, in the end, we all
here want -- as a county, want
to reduce green house gas
emission. But the goals we
pursue needs to be in a way that
also preserves the economic
competitiveness, supports job
creation and also avoids any new
regulatory uncertainty. And so,
you know, as drafted, the
community section raise
significant concerns because it
focuses on an area where the
county has limited jurisdiction,
including private vehicles,
privately-owned buildings and
land use decisions overseen by
other agency. And I know that
it says volunteer and
non-bind -- voluntary and
non-binding, however, the
section establishes countywide
goals without clear
implementation parameters
creating risk of interpretation
beyond existing state law. And
so this action plan is intended
to outline aspirational goals,
not just create mandates. So
I'm concerned about that line
that's becoming very blurry.
And so, you know, is especially
if there's a lack of clarity, we
need -- I mean, what will end up
is that it will be duplicate, it
will be inconsistent went
requirements, increase
developmental costs, add
uncertainties for businesses and
housing providers in our
incorporated areas at a time
when we need housing to be
affordable in orange county.
And the cost of living is
unbearable. At this point for
anybody who lives in orange
county and so we as a county,
when we set our policy, when
it's countywide, yes we're
saying incorporate, but we're
also saying wink-wink,
countrywide, meaning cities and
everybody else also have to
adhere to our mandate,
countywide. So again, we can't
have duplicate, you know, areas
and unintended consequence asks
not really understanding
where -- what is mandate, what
is volunteer, as well.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
vice-chair foley.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.
You know, I'm not really seeing
these sections that have been
referred to in the climate
action plan itself. So there's
nothing in the climate action
plan that mandates anything on
any private developer. We had
representatives from the bi a
and the business council on our
task force. We've talked to
them multiple times about this,
and there's no mandates included
in this climate action plan.
And then respectfully we cannot
remove this section that they're
referring to because we will not
qualify for any grants. So
that's the critical component
here. And if for no other
reason the roadmap that has been
created here is to conserve
costs for the taxpayers, if for
know other reason, even if you
don't believe climate change is
real, the measures, the roadmap,
the landfill analysis is all
intended to reduce cost and so
make us competitive for grants.
So I will not be supporting the
motion.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. Supervisor wagner.
>>don wagner: I want to respond
a little bit. The fact that bi
a and/or ocbc and/or any other
business groups were in the
discussions and at the table and
on the panels and involved here
doesn't mean that they were
listened to. And the resulting
document and their positions on
it suggest that they weren't
listened to. And I think we do
a disservice to -- not just to
those organizations but to the
vast business community in
orange county, that is so
important to us, that has been
so burdened by just trying to
exist in this state, that the
unaffordability issue supervisor
nguyen raised has come to the
forefront for so many people.
We aren't doing any favors to
everyone who is struggling with
unaffordability by rushing pell
mel into this and ignoring.
witness the leerings they sent
to us. They were at the table,
but they got ignored and felt
the need to do these letters.
And that's why, slow it down,
we'll still get the grants.
We've got what we need to do,
the bare minimum in what
survives my motion, the climate
action plan, just not this
unthought-through potentially
quite damaging section 4. I
urge support for the motion.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor sarmiento.
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
MR. Chair. I see somebody from
waste and recycling. Is it tara
that's here? If you could come
up if you don't mind. And as
you're coming up, if you could
answer sort of the question
buffers, which is what would it
do -- what would the impact be
from removing this section from
the climate action plan.
>>speaker: good morning. I'm
tara, deputy director of
sustainability. What would it
do, to answer your question,
obviously we brought what we
thought was, you know, finished
product. I will say just to
answer some of the comments that
were raised, this is not being
included in the general plan.
There are no plans to put it in
the general plan at all. Any
document that's out on the
general plan right now through
public works I would encourage
them to comment on that, as
well, if there is a reference to
the cap. Beyond that, the part
that I would probably be worried
about losing is the references
to environmental justice. We
have a lot of mandates related
to environmental justice. I'm
so sorry. And with that said,
when we go back to tie the cap
into the ej sections, which you
know most of the prop 4, 40% of
that funding is going to ej
communities, and they literally
ask if you can tie it back into
an approved plan or motion. I'm
not saying this guarantees us
the money, but if it gives us a
leg up, I would obviously love
to keep it. With that said,
it's at your discretion.
>>vincente sarmiento: so I guess
the -- sort of the essence of
your response is that, keeping
it in will help for future
funding of projects that --
>>speaker: I'm trying to just
gives any leg up that we can
get, and if there's an ab-39
mandate that will also include
environmental justice, that I'm
hoping that when we bring this
back with the ceqa document we
will actually cover that report
that's due. I completely agree,
there are more mandates and laws
than we can keep track of at
this point. So the more we
could try to cover, like we put
the climate vulnerability
assessment in to try to cover
that state mandate. We are
trying to make this as
cost-effective as we can.
>>vincente sarmiento: is there a
net benefit from keeping this
section in for future funding.
>>speaker: I believe so.
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: thank you.
Tara, can I just foul? -- follow
up? So it's not -- it's certain
that we would not get any
funding.
>>speaker: no. No.
>>janet nguyen: because that's
what was stated up here. I
wanted to make sure that we're
hearing there's a possibility,
right. But that's a possibility
all of our grants and every time
we apply for any grants through
the state or the federal, that
we -- it's competitive and it's,
you know, it can and cannot --
we might or might not get it.
>>speaker: correct. There's no
guarantee. I think what we're
trying to do is be as
cost-effective as we could. But
if it has to cover ab-39 and has
to be a component of the general
plan and we could supply ands
dies and pull out of this
document -- slice and dice just
to pull out of this document to
save money on reports down the
road, that is also something we
would be trying to do. We were
not trying to mandate anything
on the community side. We
worked with bi a quite a bit,
with adam at the time. We
really just didn't want to be
preclueded from having to do
things like outreach, the mobile
home parks, projects of that
nature if an opportunity
presented itself. We're not
trying to mandate what type of
boiler, heater. And the nice
part is we do have to bring this
back to you with a ceqa document
if it's approved today so there
will be time to make adjustments
that nature, if you think that
the language implies, that I do
want to correct that.
>>janet nguyen: I just think it
makes everybody nervous when
you're not sure what is
mandated, what isn't. I mean, a
lot of times when government
says it's not mandated, but...
It is on here, and wink-wink, we
would really like to you follow
it. That's what makes everybody
nervous.
>>speaker: I agree with their
concerns on the general plan,
and the nice part of being one
of the last counties out of the
gate is that you get to see what
happened in other jurisdictions.
And san diego county, I know
and L.A. County, did have
litigation because it was part
of their general plan, which is
why I really hope that the board
does not put it in the general
plan and avoid that. And I
think that's where the concerns
are coming from, from bia. I
don't want to speak for them,
but I do not want to put it in
the general plan unless you feel
otherwise.
>>janet nguyen: and I don't want
to do anything L.A. Does.
>>speaker: I agree, but we're on
the record.
>>janet nguyen: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor wagner.
>>don wagner: you're back. All
right. So for a brief shining
moment, I served on the south
coast air quality management
district board, and you and I
had numerous conversations when
I was wearing that hat. Now
supervisor nguyen is honored and
privileged and I'm sure thrilled
to serve on that board. In
those conversations, I remember
you telling me things like,
we've got all of these group ins
out there, but they're for
specific communities, and we
don't have those communities in
our county. So when you're
talking about, well, let's just
faint towards words
environmental justice
communities, et cetera, but at
the end of the day, most of that
by design is going to other
counties because we don't fit
the criteria. Correct?
>>speaker: right. I think when
we were having those
conversations, we were talking
about ab-61 exphiefnts. We do
not. We have no ab-617, which
are considered the most dire
under environmental justice, and
there's only six, and there is
one in L.A., yes.
>>don wagner: right. So the
statutes are written by folks
from L.A. To benefit L.A.. They
don't come to orange county.
And so to stand there and say,
well, we just need to make
this -- say these things doesn't
change the reality on the
ground. They write the statutes
to benefit themselves, and we
have been fighting for funding
equity. We have been fighting
for this, that, and the other
thing and getting nowhere. I
just lay that out there as maybe
one of the reasons that we have
to play the game, but we don't
have to damage our community's
wholesale to play that game,
which is what chapter 4 does.
MS. Walsh, is she in the
audience and if I MAY...
All right. You've been
listening to all of this, and
I'm going to kind of give -- and
law school 101, never ask a
question you don't know the
answer to. I don't know the
answer to this. We haven't
talked. What is your legal view
of this document, chapter 4.
What excising chapter 4 would do
to our availability to get these
grants under all of these
different programs. I know
you've worked on it. I'm hoping
you might be, if not the expert,
the sacrificial lamb --
>>speaker: I think sacrificial
lamb helps us better at this
point. I have reviewed it.
There's a lot of things going on
here. Just so everybody knows,
with dough have a comprehensive
general plan update coming up.
It is out for public comment. I
spoke to the woman from the bia
in the back, and we do have a
mitigation measure in the
resource management chapter that
mentions the climate action
plan. That should be stricken.
Because we are not making the
climate action plan part of the
general plan. In addition our
comprehensive general plan
update has to have an
environmental justice chapter.
It is does. The chapt draft has
an environmental justice
chapter. That will be the
chapter that complies with state
law because the climate action
plan is not part of the general
plan and we are not making it
part of the general plan, any
environmental justice
conversation in the cap will not
qualify us for anything because
we are not the doing it as part
the general plan. The law
requires that an environmental
justice chapter be adopted as
part of the general plan. The
general plan requires multiple
hearings, as you all know, and
that's upcoming. Right now the
effect of today is that you
would be approving a plan. This
is just that you are approving
sort of the contents of what we
would move forward with in an
environmental document for the
cap. The cap right now as it
stands before you, even if
approved today, cannot be
implemented because there are no
ceqa findings. So we need to
move forward with an ier. It is
my understanding, and tara and I
haven't talked about this in a
while, and I was only involved
in the end just to be clear,
that the environmental document
will not cover chapter 4. Okay.
So that's correct. So what
that means is that even if you
adopt chapter 4 today,
quote/unquote, it is merely a
planning goal-oriented document.
It cannot be implemented, and
even after this when it is
brought back to you, because the
eir will not cover chapter 4.
It cannot be implemented. It
cannot be -- it's not binding.
We can't use it as a -- we can't
use it as a baseline for ceqa
documents for residential
developments. And we can't use
it to impose mitigation measures
because an eir will not have
covered that chapter.
>>don wagner: so is that a long
way of saying it won't matter if
we excise chapter 4, give us
more time then to have more
discussions with the
stakeholders and get something
that is not only agreeable to
them, but to the entire board,
and that we could then move
forward with?
>>speaker: I am not sure about
the funding on chapter 4.
That's what I'm not sure about.
In my conversations with the oc
waste and recycling, the fund
has been about municipal. So
that's not chapter 4. But there
could be funding that implicates
chapter 4. I honestly don't
know. I don't know what that
fund something, and I'm not
usually involved in that, I'll
be honest.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
vice-chair. Foals you're
getting everything mixed up
here. Sorry. But chapter 4 is
not an implementation strategy
section.
>>speaker: right.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: it
talks about promoting -- it
talks about reducing building
energy, it talks about
promoting, building
decarbonization. It talks about
promoting solar installation.
It talks about accessible ev
charge infrastructure. It's
intend as a non-mandate section
that covers areas of support.
So the language in chapter 4
says the community component of
the cap does not include binding
emissions, reductions, targets
or required implementation
measures. The community
component instead proposes
measures that could reduce
emissions if undertaken
voluntarily.
>>speaker: correct.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and
the reason for this chapter is
intended so that we could help
support cities and nonprofits
and communities like we did
recently with our trump
administration epa grant that
was for our mobile home park
project in supervisor
sarmiento's district to install
solar. So that is what it is
intended for, is to be
supportive so that we can help
those communities to achieve
grants. And so I think that
it's getting all confused
because there's an intentional
attempt to confuse it, and so
just to be clear, what I heard
you saying, that is correct is
that chapter 4 is not a mandate
that is being channeled into the
general plan into the
environmental documentation for
purpose of development in the
county un-incorporated area. We
are not mandating what is
contained in the section related
to chapter 4. Correct.
>>speaker: that's correct.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
So the reason for chapter 4,
though is that if we don't have
chapter 4 we will not be able to
be as competitive for state
grants, especially prop 4. And
that is why we included chapter
4. And just.
Ly, we didn't ignore anyone.
We've had many, many
conversations. The concern is
understood, and that's why I've
said every single meeting over
the past year and a half these
are not mandates; these are how
the county creates a roadmap for
how we manage our own buildings,
especially our landfills. We
have three landfills that are
creating the most carbon
emissions for -- you know,
that's our main carbon emitter,
is our landfills. The priority
will be focused on reducing the
landfill emissions and our own
county building, saving taxpayer
funds by reduce energy costs.
Thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. One more time, I'm going
to go around and make a comment
of my own and call for a vote if
I MAY. Supervisor wagner.
>>don wagner: I'll just be real
brief. Weigh heard was chapter
4 -- what I heard was chapter 4
is not about grants, from our
lawyer. That's in municipal.
And therefore the grants
argument is sort of a red
herring as it applies to chapter
4.
>>speaker: I think I said -- I'm
not sure about all of the grants
that could result from chapter
4. So we do have -- if it's an
environmental justice grant,
because there was discussion
about environmental justice, we
have a specified chapter hear
that will meet the requirements
of the general plan in our draft
general plan. There could be
other grants. I'm not an
expert.
>>don wagner: chapter 4 intnt
grants, correct?
>>speaker: I think you're asking
me a question -- I'm -- chapter
4 is not about grants because
chapter 4 is a cap for
community, you know, ghg goals.
>>don wagner: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. I'll make my own
comment. I dweebt to remove
chapter 4. The meeting is held
in my district. I saw
tremendous enthusiasm from my be
constituents. There was no
objection to these things being
objected to. I read the bia
letter. I kind of thought, how
does that even relate to the
document? It seemed like a
misfire. Because when I read
the document, there's nothing
binding that would even slightly
impact came a building trade.
So my -- I'm going to vote no on
the motion. And at this time,
I'd think I'd ask the clerk to
call the roll.
>>clerk, robin stieler:
supervisor wagner. Supervisor
nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: yes.
>>clerk, robin stieler:
supervisor sarmiento, vices
chair foley.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no.
>>clerk, robin stieler: and
chair chaffee.
>>chair, doug chaffee: no. I
think I will make a motion that
we approve the climate action
plan including chapter 4.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
second.
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,
MAY I --
>>chair, doug chaffee: we have a
motion on the floor. Now we can
discuss it. Supervisor wagner.
>>don wagner: I was just going
to ask the chair, given the
natural division in the
question, to divide chapter 4
out so that we can vote on the
bulk of the climate action plan
and chapter 4 separately.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I would
be agree tonight bifurcating if
that's agreeable -- I see a lot
of nodding. Let's -- let me
restate the motion, that we
consider the plan without
chapter 4, and we'll come back
and consider chapter 4
separately. MAY I have a
second?
>>janet nguyen: I'll second it.
>>chair, doug chaffee: the
motion is everything but chapter
4.
Is there any objection to
that. So the plan to chapter 4
is now approved. I'll make a
motion that chapter 4 be
included in the plan.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
seconded. Now we can talk
separately about chapter 4 if
anyone cares. Supervisor
nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: thank you,
MR. CHAIRMAN. If you would
consider for chapter 4 is just
removing two sections of it.
Which is measure c, dash e-1,
which sets the building decarbon
sayings targets that while is
labor voluntary, it could be
interpreted as future policy
commitments and could contblict
state building codes and utility
programs. Building retrofit
expectation MAY increase costs
and operational challenges,
especially for small businesses
and older buildings. So
removing measure c-e1, and the
second one I'm asking you to
consider is removing measure
c-m2 which establishes the
vehicle mileage travel
reduction. That targets -- it's
largely outside the county's
direct control, and really could
negatively impact our business
access workforce mobility and
goods movement. So referencing
to come to this, it would
introduce land use policy
directions through a climate
plan rather than utilizing an
established plan in process.
Vmt has been in discussion in
sacramento since I was up there
for probably the full decade,
and so I think that we here at
county shouldn't be including
that in our section. And so if
you would consider removing
those two, I can support the
rest of chapter 4.
>>chair, doug chaffee: can I be
clear where that's in the plan.
>>janet nguyen: so c-e1, which
is --
>>chair, doug chaffee: you can
give me a page number.
>>janet nguyen: page 95.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. Vice change comments.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I need
change my vote on the prior
because I want to be against the
cap. The way that the vote got
set up, I voted against the
climate action plan, which
obviously I don't want to do
that because I spent two years
of my life helping to develop
it. So I need to change my vote
to a yes on the original motion.
I just was not in favor of
removing chapter 4.
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll move
to reconsider the initial vote
on the balance of the cap plan
without chapter 4.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you. Second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: wait a
minute. I got lost in all that.
We're talking separately about
the -- chapter 4.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
understand. But the original
motion was the climate action
plan without chapter 4, which I
voted against. But now because
of how it got set up, now I'm
against the cap as a result,
because you just added the
chapter 4 into the original
motion. So it made it so that I
voted against the cap, not
intentionally.
Unintentionally.
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I
didn't interpret it that way.
We simply voted for the plan
itself. Clearly, I thought with
the understanding that we would
consider adding chapter 4
separately. That's what we're
doing.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so
can I just re --- I would like
to vote in favor of the original
motion because I want to be in
favor of the cap.
>>chair, doug chaffee: of
chapter 4.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
support chapter 4. I support
the whole cap as presented.
>>chair, doug chaffee: so you
don't support the bifurcation;
is that what it is, where we
separated chapter 4 from the
plan?
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
support -- I did not support
removing chapter 4. And I'm
just trying to make sure my vote
is in favor of the cap. I'm not
sure what we voted that the
point.
>>chair, doug chaffee: why don't
we restate the motion, if that's
where we're at, that we simply
approve the plan as presented,
including chapter 4. Is that
where you're at.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.
Second.
>>janet nguyen: we bifurcated
it.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I know.
But I think the result is the
same if we -- if you move
chapter 4 into the plan.
>>vincente sarmiento: I think
the vice-chair simply wants to
revote on the first part of the
bifurcation, which is on the
plan without chapter 4, because
she voted no and wants to vote
in favor of it.
>>janet nguyen: so in other
words, what I'm hearing, MADAM
Vice-chair, that we just need to
reconsider --
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: is
there a way to clear the board?
>>chair, doug chaffee: we can
make a notion reconsider. Ask
counsel to clarify, if he can.
>>leon page: I think typically
the board is allowable of these
kinds of requests. And I think
there's just unanimous support
for the climate action plan
without chapter 4.
>>chair, doug chaffee: yes
paidgesz all of the members
support that. The controversy
concerns chapter 4, and I think
that's where the board had the
division of the vote, and now
there's been a request by
supervisor nguyen to remove two
action items in chapter 4.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
that's not answering the
questions.
>>leon page: I think the clerk
can record that all five members
support the climate action plan
without chapter 4. And that's
what I think supervisor foley is
trying to get to. Supervisor
foley also supports chapter 4,
and that's where we will
eventually end up.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So
I'm going to stand by the
bifurcation, and we're now
considering chapter 4 as part
the climb ate -- climate action
plan.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yep.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. Any further discussion
on that or shall we call another
roll at this point.
>>janet nguyen: I'm so confused.
I'm sorry. I'm confused. So
our original vote for 81, the
climate action plan without 4,
was 4/1.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: it's
now 5-0. And then he added back
in chapter 4, and you've asked
for changes to chapter 4, which
there isn't support in the maker
of the motion for that.
>>janet nguyen: so the new vote
is just on chapter 4 then.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
adding it in -- so it's page 65
in also page 100.. I'm
asking --
>>janet nguyen: also on page
100, I'm asking you to consider
moving these two items off of
chapter 4 and I will be
supporting the rest.
>>chair, doug chaffee: are there
any other comments? I see the
point that you're making on e1.
I didn't read the next page,
but...
>>janet nguyen: page 100 is the
vehicles miles travel.
>>chair, doug chaffee: that one
I would be supportive of
removing, c-e3, but not the
other one, I think that has some
advantage. It's just a planning
consideration. That one. And I
think -- bifurcation to me is an
economic consideration.
>>janet nguyen: so c-e1 is
the --
>>chair, doug chaffee: isn't
that on -- that's 97, sorry.
>>janet nguyen: 95.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm
sorry. E1 on page 95, I would
be agreeable that that be
removed.
>>janet nguyen: what about c-m2?
, which is page 100.
>>chair, doug chaffee: no. I
think that's okay. I would
leave that. But I think the
electrification goes with the
concept of all electric water
heaters and all that kind of
stuff that made no sense.
.
So I think electrification is
more of an economic concept to
me. Not necessarily a climate
one. You get there through
economics, I think.
>>janet nguyen: but remember,
MR. CHAIRMAN, the vehicles miles
travel is also economic.
Currently those who has gas car
paying gas taxes. While those
who has electric cars are not
paying the tax -- the gas tax.
And what you're going to end up
with is when we implement
statewide vehicles miles travel,
which means those whoa has gas
car would not only be paying
sales tax on the gasoline
they're pumping into their car,
but they're also now going to be
paying vehicles miles travel
while the electrical cars folks
are only paying for the vehicles
miles travel and not the gas
sales tax. So I think it's also
economic. And it does hit
individuals and families, you
know, very hard, and that's one
of my arguments in the last, you
know, several years in
sacramento when we talked about
the vehicles miles travel. And
so I think that removing both of
them would really -- I mean, it
also allows those -- I mean, for
us to continuing to watch that
sacramento is doing. They've
got hearings, talking about the
vehicle miles travel as well
this year. And watching what
they do and how it's going to be
implemented statewide would be
much more helpful to us than to
put it into our action.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think
the vehicle miles plan can be
done different ways. Maybe a
different rate for electric cars
than gasoline cars for example.
I think that's a concept that
I'd like to see explored.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I would
demand the motion to approve by
4 by deleting that first item on
page 95 that you're referring to
if the second is agreeable to
that. If the second is not
agreeable, then we don't move
forward.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can
someone clarify what section
we're deleting? I don't have
page numbers on mine.
>>chair, doug chaffee: page 95.
>>janet nguyen: c-e1.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: c-e1
as I understand it says provide
technical assistance to private
building owners and tenants
regarding building
decarbonization and explore
opportunities to connect
building owners with proficient
contractors. That's what you
want to remove? I don't
understand.
>>leon page: there are actually
three action items on page 95.
>>chair, doug chaffee: page 95.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: c-e1
says what I just read. Which
section are you asking to
remove?
>>janet nguyen: c-e1, e-1, dash
2, and dash 3.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: dash
2 and 3 is what you want to
remove.
>>janet nguyen: all three of
them. At this point --
MR. Chair, I appreciate --
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can I
finish? So c-e1.2, I just want
to make sure we're all on the
same page, says work with local
utilities and or the southern
california regional energy
network to promote replacement
of natural gas appliances
through education and financial
incentives. That's assuming
that those are required by the
state at some point. We're not
mandating it, we're just saying
if that's required, work with
locals to help them. So is that
what you want to remove? Is
that a yes or a no? I just want
to go through and make sure I
know what you want to remove.
>>janet nguyen: I said all of
e-1.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so
the next part of e-1.3 is launch
educational campaigns for
residents, businesses and
building owners and managers on
decarbon sayings and/or
electrification programs and
incentives offered by the local
utilities and or so cal rye n,
which is the regional --
southern california regional
energy network. Is that what
else you want to remove.
>>janet nguyen: all of e-1.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and
the vehicle miles traveled, the
recommendation is to evaluate
opportunities to support and
expand active transportation
infrastructure to major
destinations within
un-incorporated areas, and the
second goal is to promote and/or
incentivize transit oriented,
mixed use, compact development
through permit streamlining and
incentives. That's not really
about vehicle miles traveled as
a tax, as it's been described.
It's more about how do we create
infrastructure. So I would not
support the motion. I would not
support the request to remove
those because --
>>chair, doug chaffee: either of
them.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,
I don't know what -- we're going
to remove the section -- I'd
like to hear why we need to
remove the section about
providing technical assistance
and working with the utility
companies. Don't we want to do
that.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's
today to into this
electrification issue, so...
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,
MAY I --
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: it's
not requiring -- look, I have a
gas stove. I know people
have -- there's like a lot of
debate about that. And that's
why we did mandate anything like
that. And so I don't think this
section does what has been
described.
>>chair, doug chaffee: well,
it's strange, connecting a
building with proficient
contractors. That's almost like
an advertisement for who is
profession.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,
I can understand why that would
be a concern.
>>chair, doug chaffee: yeah. I
don't want to vote a contractor
particularly.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can
we keep the provide technical
assistance to private building
owners.
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,
can I say --
>>chair, doug chaffee: well,
let's --
>>janet nguyen: it might help
you to have not --
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
Well, let's -- there is a
request now from removing two
items, and I don't see any
support for removing the one
concerning the vehicle miles
expiration. The first one,
though, building
decarbonization, I find that
difficult myself. All right.
Let's see if we can work through
this. Supervisor -- vice-chair,
any further comments?
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
just would be open to hearing
how you might want to change
some of that because I think
what I hear you saying is that
you're concerned about the -- us
advertising. So I get that, and
that I can accept. But I guess
my concern is that most of the
rest of this is more sort of
educational, helping people to
find out what incentives are
offered by other utilities,
connecting residents, and
private businesses to utility
incentives. So if they have to
do something different in their
development or if they want to,
for that matter. So that would
be -- if we want to remove the
language, explore opportunities
to connect building owners with
proficient contractors, would
that satisfy your concerns?
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I
think we're getting a little bit
into the weeds here a little too
much.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
okay.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think
if you want to come back later
with some rewording of this
whole section, that's possible.
It doesn't have to be the end of
it today.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
>>chair, doug chaffee: but I
found the whole thrust of it is
leading to electrification when
there are other economic
opportunities that MAY need to
be considered. So -- and I'm
also going to try to find some
grounds to get this done. And I
find -- so, anyway...
We have a motion that so far is
just to add the section 4.
There's a suggestion for a
change from supervisor nguyen.
I'm agreeable to that. I did
not -- not to this mileage
thing, but to the other part. I
didn't hear an agreement from my
second. So I don't know where
we are. Right now we have a
motion to simply add section 4
PRESIDENT Been moved and
seconded. That's where we're at
at. I guess we'll call -- and I
think we can address this other
thing later maybe? I don't
know. I'm troubled when I read
through that thing that
supervisor nguyen was pointing
out as not a good idea.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd
be happy to work with you on
some changes to the language if
we could just get it passed
today and then we could maybe
bring it back, if that's
agreeable.
>>chair, doug chaffee: the
alternative is simply to
continue consideration of
section 4 to the next meeting.
Would that be agreeable?
>>janet nguyen: I'll second
that.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd
rather just condition this one
page that is at issue if we're
going to continue anything.
>>chair, doug chaffee: so you'd
be agreeable at this time for
removing that item from --
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
continuing this one item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So
that item c-e1 through 3 will
not be part of section 4 that
we're voting on now.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yeah.
And then we'll continue that to
the next meeting.
>>chair, doug chaffee: for
further discussion all right.
Got it. All right. Any
objection to that motion?
Clerk, please call the roll.
>>clerk, robin stieler: chair
chaffee.
>>chair, doug chaffee: aye.
>>clerk, robin stieler:
supervisor foley.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
isle.
>>clerk, robin stieler:
supervisor nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: abstain.
>>clerk, robin stieler:
supervisor sarmiento.
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, but
it's c hi e1, ce-.2, c dash e1.3
e1.3.
S.
>>janet nguyen: MADAM Clerk, you
can make mine no?.
>>chair, doug chaffee: so no,
three yeses and an abstention.
>>clerk, robin stieler: two
NOs.
>>chair, doug chaffee: so
section 4, absent the c-e.1, 2,
and 3 are now part of the
climate action plan and we'll
come back and further discuss
this and massage it a little bit
and see if we can make more
sense out of it.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. Now please go on to item
22.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 22.
Under county executive office-
approve grant
applications/awards submitted by
health care agency, oc community
resources and oc waste &
recycling in 2/24/26 grant
report and other actions as
recommended; and adopt
resolution authorizing oc waste
& recycling director or designee
to negotiate, execute
agreements, related documents
and amendments with california
coastal commission for whale
tail grants program ($50,000)
And MR. Chair, we received one
request to speak on agenda item
22.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please
call the speaker.
>>clerk, robin stieler: donora.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
apparently not present.
>>clerk, robin stieler: she's
right here.
>>chair, doug chaffee: come on
over then. Please come to the
podium.
>>speaker: good morning,
everyone. I guess you guys know
who I am, and I want to speak on
item 22, but I also -- since
english is my second language, I
want to stand a little bit that
I'm very disappointed that you
as federal government, who
brought me here as a kid, I was
7 years old, supposed to be
protected under federal statute
because we were brought as
refugee, not escape from cuba.
Federal government brought us
here. And I've worked 40-plus
years and paid taxes to see
illegal aliens taken over
housing in orange county. I've
never drink, done drugs, neither
smoke. My family from florida
is very disappointed including
in cuba, so they're sending my
alien number to washington D.C.
To see what the heck went wrong
here. I should not be in my
cart, and illegal aliens have
taken over housing. I've been
coming to the board since 2019
through the present, and a lot
of great officers are friends of
mine, including the chief
barnes. And it's an
embarrassment that you guys have
not done to anything about it to
tell the housing authority go
ahead and give her an emergency
voucher, run into church, taking
shower.
>>chair, doug chaffee: this has
nothing to do with that.
>>speaker: but I would like to
make an appointment with you. I
was told you are the chair.
>>chair, doug chaffee: you can
make an appointment through the
appropriate channels. But this
has nothing to do with that.
>>speaker: thank you. Very
stressed out. But on topping,
no. 22, since you say community
resource -- on topic...
Maybe the resource community
could focus on illegal immigrant
when they making housing and not
depriving me of housing
assistant, hopefully I can make
an I point with you, the chair,
because charles has refused to
make me an appointment with
supervisor janet nguyen, and I
was told that I have the right
to make an appointment with the
a supervisor because he have not
done anything for me, just ask
andrew do and chief crist.
>>chair, doug chaffee: you need
to address the item or sit down,
please.
>>speaker: thank you. This is
the item that -- like I say,
this is my first time being here
since I was a kid, and I had to
basically talk to you guys,
legislative policymakers, to see
why people that are illegal are
take over housing in orange
county.
>>chair, doug chaffee: again,
this item has nothing to do with
that.
>>speaker: so when it has
something to do, can you explain
this in english, is my second
language, community resource.
>>chair, doug chaffee: this has
to do with grant applications.
They're listed in the agenda.
>>speaker: well, I pulled out my
application for housing and
nothing happened yet.
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's
not this. Your time is up.
Thank you.
>>speaker: thank you. Have a
great day, and looking forward
to making an appointment with
you.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
seconded. I would note there is
grant money here possibly for
prop 36 funding, something that
the people voted in, and they --
and sacramento seems to ignore.
Here's a chance for some
funding, and we do take that
seriously. All right. It's
included PRESIDENT Been
approved. Item 23 has been
deleted. So item 24, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 24.
Under county executive office,
approve type 2 work order number
ncy7-009 under contract
ma-017-19010750 with science
applications international
corporation for managed services
network, voice and security
services to support firewall
system migration for john wayne
airport, 3/25/26-11/10/26
($225,200); and authorize county
chief information officer or
designee to execute work order.
We have no requests to speak on
agenda item 24.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Item 24 is approved.
25, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 25.
Under county executive office,
approve amendment 3 to renew
contract ma-017-22011093 with
southwest strategies, llc for
spent fuel solutions management
services at san onofre nuclear
generating station, 3/22/26-
3/21/27 ($100,000; cumulative
total $500,000); and authorize
county procurement officer or
deputized designee to execute amendment.
We have no requests to speak on
agenda item 25.
>>chair, doug chaffee: is
district 5.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Item 25 is approved.
26, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 26.
Under county executive office,
approve 2026 federal community
project funding requests. And we
have no requests to speak on
agenda item 26.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: seeing no
objection, item is approved.
27, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 27.
Under county executive office,
approve amendment 3 to contract
ma-017-22010907 with network
television time inc. For board
hearing room hardware, software
and professional services, term
ending 3/8/31 ($1,793,655;
cumulative total $4,676,762);
and authorize county
procurement officer or deputized
designee to execute amendment.
And we have no if to speak on
agenda item 27.
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
all-district item.
>>don wagner: move the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll
second it. Any objection?
Motion carries. Item 28. We
dealt with earlier. Now we come
down to item 29.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 29.
Under registrar of voters-
approve retroactive amendment 2
to contract ma-031-24010973 with
cathyjon enterprises, inc. Dba
hb staffing for temporary help
services, 1/31/25-1/30/26
($181,659; new total $500,000;
cumulative total $1,081,659);
and authorize county
procurement officer or deputized
designee to exercise cost
contingency increase not to
exceed 10% under certain
conditions and execute contract.
And we received one request to
speak on agenda item 29.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please
call the speaker.
>>clerk, robin stieler: paul
hayek.
>>speaker: I bet people -- my
question is, with this company,
are they gonna able to provide
the extra help when we have our
elections in JUNE and NOVEMBER
to staff? The facilities that
are needed. I'm very interested
in being one of those temps.
I'm a handicap.
>>clerk, robin stieler: no
further requests, MR. Chair.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. This is an all-district
item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
second. Objection? Motion
carries. Next item is item 30.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 30.
Under office of campaign finance
and ethics commission-receive
and file 2025 campaign finance
and ethics commission's annual report.
And MR. Chair, we see one
request to speak on agenda item
30.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please
call the speaker.
>>clerk, robin stieler: brian
kay.
>>speaker: happy day. So orange
county does have a campaign
ethics office. I've been to it.
I've been to a few of the
meetings, and it's somewhat of
an embarrassment. It's a vacant
building. There's no offices.
There's just a couple of tables.
They hold a meeting, which is
more a get-together for the four
or five board members. And poor
donna hoard isn't allowed to
actually communicate with the
public. So while our beloved
katrina foley sits there and
says that she's paying attention
to people and she wants to hear
what the public has to say, poor
donna hoard isn't capable of
listening to the public, and
then translating that to this
board of supervisors. And it is
a shame. It reminds me of james
armanderis. I'm sure that vince
remembers james. Do you not,
sir? He was a great man on the
human relations, and he met with
the members of the public, and
he communicated with members of
the public. And then he
communicated with members of the
board. And provided that
integral service of
communication between the public
and the board. And right now
donna doesn't have that ability.
She hasn't been given the
resources. She doesn't have the
office, and she's admitted to
being given orders to just
ignore the public and just keep
doing what she's doing. So you
would think that someone like
katrina foley, dressed to the
NINEs in that wonderful
bright, loud suit that she's
wearing today, matches the
lipstick, she looks sharp -- you
would think that she would want
to make sure that that board was
open to communication from the
public and able to communicate
with her. I mean, she's saying
that she doesn't want to ignore
people, yet, here she is
ordering a county employee to
ignore the public. So here I am
standing up for a county
employee, donna hoard, and even
for katrina foley, once again,
saying, katrina, this is what
you want. This is what you
believe in. This is the
standard that you are holding
out to the public as your own.
And we're not here to do
anything other than to help you,
to advise you and to warn you
that what you're doing is not
what you say you're doing. And
we're here giving you the
opportunity to live up to those
promises, live up to that bright
suit that you're wearing today
and follow the laws that you're
bragging about doing. Happy day
day.
>>clerk, robin stieler: no
further requests to speak,
MR. Chair.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right. This is actually a --
this is a "receive and file".
Is there any discussion? Any
objection to receiving and
filing the report? The report
shall be received and filed.
All right. Now we come to item
31.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 31.
Under vice chair foley-
consider second reading and
adoption of "an ordinance of the
county of orange, california,
adding division 22 to title 3,
sections 3-22-1 through 3-22-4,
relating to the unlawful
possession of catalytic
converters, to the codified
ordinances of the county of
orange." we have no requests to
speak on agenda item 31.
>>chair, doug chaffee: this
is -- it was continued before.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
vice-chair, it's your item.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you. I'll move this item. This
ordinance, our second reading
makes it unlawful in
un-incorporated orange county to
possess even one detached
catalytic converter without
proof of ownership. This close
as loophole in state law which
actually allows you to have nine
or more detached catalytic
converters without proof
ownership. So the ordinance
shifts the burden to the
possessor, allows the
presumption of unlawful
possession and treats the
converter -- each converter as a
separate offense with civil
penalties. Thank you to the
sheriff's department and
district attorney for their
support of this ordinance. With
that, I move the item.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
second. Thank you for bringing
this forward. There are no
objections. The item is
approved.
>>vincente sarmiento: I was a no
during the first reading but I
will be a no on this one too.
>>chair, doug chaffee: noting
the "no" vote. And supplement
31a...
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31a.
Under health care agency-
approve amendment 1 to renew
master and individual contracts
ma042-25010884 for adult peer
support wellness and supported
employment centers with
college community services dba
clarvida, central and south, and
orange county association for
mental health dba mental health
association of orange county,
west, 7/1/26-6/30/28
(Aggregate total $8,200,000;
cumulative aggregate total
$12,300,000); renewable for one
additional two-year term; and
authorize county procurement
officer or deputized designee to
execute amendments. We have no
requests to speak on s31a.
>>chair, doug chaffee: is a
district 1, 2, and 3 item. Any
objection? Motion carries.
Supplement 31b, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31b.
Under supervisor sarmiento-
orange county behavioral health
advisory board-appoint cesilia
vega-gonzalez, laguna hills, for
ending 3/9/29. And we have no
requests to speak on s31b.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor sarmiento.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:
second.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? The point is made.
Supplement 31c.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31c.
Under supervisor sarmiento-
animal care community outreach
committee-appoint hollis
lenore, fountain valley, for
term ending 4/14/26. We have no
requests to speak on s31c.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor sarmiento? Second.
Any objection? There is none.
Next we have a series of items
being brought forward by the
vice-chair. If we could combine
d through m and also add q, r,
and s, I believe that's all of
them. And if the clerk would
read those items.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31d.
Under vice chair foley-approve
allocation of $10,000 from fifth
district discretionary funds to
parkinson'
s exercise program for
you; make related findings under
government code section 26227;
authorize county executive
officer or designee to negotiate
and enter into agreement as
necessary; and authorize
auditor-controller or designee
to make related payments.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31e.
Under vice chair foley-approve
allocation of $5,000 from fifth
district discretionary funds to
san clemente village; make
related findings under
government code section 26227;
authorize county executive
officer or designee to negotiate
and enter into agreement as
necessary; and authorize
auditor-controller or designee
to make related payments. Under
vice chair foley-approve
allocation of $5,000 from fifth
district discretionary funds to
families forward, inc.; make
related findings under
government code section 26227;
authorize county executive
officer or designee to negotiate
and enter into agreement as
necessary; and authorize
auditor-controller or designee
to make related payments. Under
vice chair foley-approve
allocation of $5,400 from fifth
district discretionary funds to
capistrano unified school
district: marco forster middle
school library; make related
findings under government code
section 26227; authorize county
executive officer or designee to
negotiate and enter into
agreement as necessary; and
authorize auditor-controller
or designee to make related payments.
under vice chair foley-approve
allocation of $103,633 from
fifth district discretionary
funds to south orange county
community theatre dba camino
real playhouse; make related
findings under government code
section 26227; authorize county
executive officer or designee to
negotiate and enter into
agreement as necessary; and
authorize auditor-controller
or designee to make related payments.
And we have no requests to speak
on any of these items.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
move the items as described.?
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31n.
Under supervisor wagner-
approve sponsorship of various
nonprofit entities from third
district events funds; approve
addition or revision of events
to fy 2025-26 county events
calendar; make related findings
under government code section
26227; and authorize
auditorcontroller to make
related payments. The we have no
requests to speak.
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
seconded. Motion is approved.
Supplement 31o.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31o.
Under supervisor sarmiento-
approve sponsorship of various
nonprofit entities from second
district events funds; approve
addition or revision of events
to fy 2025-26 county events
calendar; make related findings
under government code section
26227; and authorize
auditor-controller to make
related payments. And we have no
requests to speak on s31o.
>>chair, doug chaffee:
supervisor sarmiento? Moved and
seconded, any objections?
Seeing none. Approved. Now we
come to supplement 31p.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31p.
Under chair chaffee-approve
sponsorship of nonprofit
ethiopian-american generational
bridge organization from fourth
district events funds; approve
addition or revision of events
to fy 2025-26 county events
calendar; make related findings
under government code section
26227; and authorize
auditor-controller to make
related payments. And MR. Chair,
we have received one request to
speak on s31p.
>>chair, doug chaffee: please
call speaker.
>>clerk, robin stieler: donora.
>>speaker: a lot of problems in
the government. Thank GOD I'm
still here. What was that
again? That number, please?
>>clerk, robin stieler: 31p.
>>speaker: now, I trust the
chair, MR. Chaffee, you can
explain it to me that again,
that way I can translate into
spanish and english and then I
can be respond. Thank you.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: this
item relates to support for
ethiopian american generational
bridge organization.
>>chair, doug chaffee: do you
want to speak on that.
>>speaker: well, I'm from cuba,
not ethiopia. So I pass, but I
would like to make an
appointment with the chair.
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's
not part of this item. So.
>>speaker: thank you.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
you. Second. Any objection?
Motion carries. Now we come to
supplement 31t.
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31t.
Under supervisor sarmiento-
approve use of $75,000 from
second district, budget control
007 to first five orange county
for childcare business incubator
program; make related findings
under government code section
26227; authorize county
executive officer or designee to
negotiate and enter into
agreement as necessary; and
authorize auditor-controller or
designee to make related payments.
And we have no if to speak on
s31t.
>>chair, doug chaffee: any
objection? Motion carries. We
come to item 32, which is a
public hearing.
>>clerk, robin stieler: 32.
Under county executive office-
public hearing to consider
adopting resolutions of
necessity acquiring by eminent
domain easements for silverado
canyon road bridge replacement
project; authorizing county
counsel to retain outside
eminent domain counsel bdg law
group inc. And initiate
condemnation proceedings; and
directing and authorizing
auditorcontroller to encumber
and transfer compensation under
certain conditions and making
related findings. This item
does require a 2/3 vote of the
monopoly.
>>chair, doug chaffee: let me --
vote of the membership.
>>chair, doug chaffee: all
right, do we have any members
who wish to speak.
>>clerk, robin stieler: no.
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll
bring it back to the board for
consideration. This is a
district 3 item. Moved and
second. Any objection? We have
a unanimous vote, so the item is
approved. Now we could come at
this point to closed sessions.
was that -- would you like to do
that or -- do public comments?
All right. MADAM Clerk, how
many public comments do we
have.
>>clerk, robin stieler: nine.
>>chair, doug chaffee: nine. I
thought I heard "none." that
sounded intriguing, but it's
"nine." okay. Would you like
to do board comments before
closed sessions? We can do
that. Let's get to public
comments, and then we'll follow
with that, okay. Please call
the speakers.
>>clerk, robin stieler: I'll
call three names at a time.
Please line up at the center of
the room when your name is
called behind the podium, steve
rocco, paul hayek and greg
arrowsmith..
>>speaker: if you see something,
say something. If you see
something, say something. That
was a calling cry at last
meeting that I spoke out on
JANUARY the 27th. Well, I did
say something. And I talked
about the home inveighs of my
home. And at the same time, my
home was being invaded. How
about that? And by pretty much
the same people. Let's see, my
grass is too high, I got bugs.
Plus, I owe the city over
$16,000 for a water bill. What
does that sound like to you? It
sounds like persecution,
prosecution. Sounds like
special prosecution. Sounds
like a special project. You
went to the fbi to get rid of
do. Why aren't you going to the
fbi to get rid of spitzer?
,
who's a sexual pervert. Prove
it. Hates christians. Hates
christians. Pulled a gun on
one. And yet that's okay with
you. Because criminal
politicians are okay with ooh
guys. You know, over the united
states supreme court in
washington D.C. There's a sign
which says "equal justice under
the law." this does not mean
equality in all things. It
doesn't mean you can go to the
same bathroom as me if you're
not the same gender. It means
equality under the law. You
have the same political rights.
Political rights is something
else, okay. Diversity and
equality are not the same thing.
Diversity gives an empire.
Washington D.C. Was built to
look like rome. Marvel --
marble, columns, and the whole
shebang. And equality means
sameness. Similarity.. Nation
and empire are not the same
thing. Uncle sam loves
diversity because you're not
going to be a majority. And the
government will tell you what to
do, not vice-versa. You can't
have it both ways. You can't
have it both ways. They are
contradicter to. It's
either/or. Uncle sam's
diversity or sameness, a nation,
a real nation. And you know
what, it's people like me who
are being discriminated against
today. White christian males,
number one on the list.
Equality, take a look at the
sports. I couldn't find a white
face there for the entire last
week.S.
>>speaker: good afternoon. Good
morning, I mean. We need to
make sure these new operators
for these shelters are make them
wear they're -- where they are
walk in/walk out. Why don't we
hire those that have the trades
to help run the place? Because
they'd be glad to help run it
and make minimum wage. Let's
see them turn this place around.
Remember, back in '17 I was
advocating for the homeless
shelter in anaheim. I was there
when they dedicated it. I was
there for eight months, and
mercy house has to go. And the
one in santa ana is being run by
a foreign company. They're not
even a U.S.. And mercy house is
run by a hawaiian with hawaiian
security.
>>clerk, robin stieler: the next
three superiors are donora, l
uci daniel and nicole nguyen.
>>speaker: presentation z mailed
to the usdoj, california brown
act of 1953, forcing local
government agencies to be
transparent with the tax paying
citizens. Had an introduction
meeting with sheriff chad dee
bianco, government candidate and
michael gates, attorney general
candidate at the elks lodge in
santa ana last tuesday night.
They were both real, genuine and
approachable guys that have the
resume
and experience to make
california golden again. They
are eager to put their words
into action for the best
interest of californians.
Focus, offender recidivism and
re-entry in the united states,
crime in america net leonard
adam signs junior 2026, U.S.
Department of justice bureau of
justice statistics 68% of
prisoners were released with a
new arrest within three years
and 77% in five years.
California correctional
facilities issues from colleges
of law.Edu, overcrowding and
inadequate handling of
complaints and violence within
the system. California
correctional facilities remain
over capacity which affects
safety and rehabilitation
efforts. Overcrowding leads to
increased violence and undermine
security measures. Problem,
there are three hours of actual
work assignments and or
educational programs that an
inmate will accomplish in a
15-hour day, according to the
typical daily schedule for
inmates in the california
correctional facilities. In
other words, the typical daily
schedule focuses more on a day
camp schedule for criminal
versus a work schedule to
prepare him or her to be
productive tax paying citizens
in society. The overcrowding
and violence in these facilities
makes sense due to these inmates
have too much time on their
hands for shenanigans. It
appears that the offenders'
behavior will accept returning
back to a correctional facility
knowing that he or she has a
criminal day camp waiting for
him or her. Solution, as a tax
paying citizens I'd like to have
the opportunity to revise a
typical daily schedule for
inmates. These inmates,
prisons, jails, juvenile
detentions should be working
eight hours a day for five days
a week. They will be allowed to
have a daily 30-minute lunch and
two 15-minute breaks to be
complying with california labor
laws. The inmates will execute
a self development and
educational class during day 6
and 7 and after work. The goal
is to have the california
correctional facilities execute
a curriculum that will motivate
the inmates to not want to go
back to a correctional facility
ever again in a lifetime.
Temporary housing, dorms,
continued education and job
placement during the inmate
release program is crucial to
get him or her heading towards
the right direction for success.
>>chair, doug chaffee: MAY we
have the next speaker, please.
>>speaker: thank you, again.
Just want to say I still have
love for all you guys being a
christian pentecostal parent and
pastor be pentecostal and my
father was an architect. We
went to church seven days a week
to keep us focused from the
communists. I got sick from a
hearing, then it was government.
Not america. It was depraved
house, discriminated and I have
my alien number. This number
congress will now that they
brought me from cuba, supposed
to be protected under federal
statute and still today. So the
government has -- I'm praying
that they focus on illegal
immigrant U.S. Citizens that
work and pay taxes. Many
people, you see it in the media,
they are not legal. They are
aggressive against police
officer and I.C.E., and I'm
crying what the heck went wrong
in orange county that we grew up
in orange county, went to orange
high school where america taught
us how to speak english. There
was no one from mexico, with all
due respect, running orange
county back in 1969. So I'm
requesting our origin -- an
urgent appointment with the
chair doug chaffee as soon as
possible and, again, the chief
janet nguyen refuse to make me
an appointment. And you guys
have seen me since 2018 and 19.
And thank GOD I'm a great human
being to guiding other people
that are still standing. So
please it's urgent an
appointment with doug chaffee be
blessed in hoping to make
america great for all of us. If
you don't fix it, this will
never be the united states of
america anymore. My parents are
in heaven. They are the reason
why we are here, they prepare
possible under kennedy. We
waited, and thank GOD we here.
But this is not the country that
we grow up. But we still have
love for you guys. You.
>>chair, doug chaffee: the next
speaker, please.
>>clerk, robin stieler: l uci
daniel and nicole nguyen.
>>speaker: hello. I'm here to
explain that I am a home care
provider with ihss for 14 years.
I take care of my mom for 14
years, and I do everything for
her. She cannot live by
herself. She's 92. And her
mind strong, but she is very
weak for her age. And she needs
help with everything. I cook
for her. I clean. I bathe her,
I MAY being sure she takes her
medication. I take her to the
doctor's, sometimes I take her
out to the store. That's what
she likes to do mostly, to go
shopping. And I'm just
explaining that because we don't
get paid very much, but it helps
us to stay with the people we
take care of. Like it helps me
to stay home with my mom because
of the ihss program because I
can be -- I'm a certified
paralegal. I could have a job
like I used to work with the
lawyers, and making a lot more
money. But I chose this because
I love my mom, and I have to
take care of her, or -- I don't
want to put her in a nursing
home because she gets very
depressed when she thinks about
what if she goes to a nursing
home. And that's not a good
thing for her, but she's healthy
and her mind is strong because
of my care. And I just want to
make sure that we try to keep
the ihss program for the
disabled and the elderly.
They're better off at home than
a nurse home. That's all I'm
saying. And when my mom's had
to go for therapy to a nursing
home, she just cried almost
every day. She was so
depressed. It's better if they
stay home. So thank you for
your time.
>>clerk, robin stieler: after
nicole, the last three speakers
are katherine louie, andrew and
brian kay.
>>speaker: good morning, board.
I am nicole nguyen, and I'm an
ihss provider. I live -- I have
been a provider for five years.
I care for my cousin, my first
cousin. I'm a resident of santa
ana and district 2. What I do
for my cousin -- and what I care
for my cousin, I MAY being sure
that she take her medication on
time and make sure she has her
refill medication on time too.
She is 83 years old. She's not
healthy, not physically and not
mentally. I care for her. I
MAY being sure she can eat. She
cannot eat likely, she can have
proper food, and I gotta help
her in and out of my car for
doctors, pharmacist or anywhere
she want to go. My work, my
helping her is very important,
that allow her to stay home and
be comfortable with respect. I
really appreciate the ihss
program to allow me to take care
of my cousin. And
>>speaker: I'd like to provide a
little help. My name is
katherine louie. I'm a proud
member of udw. And I'm an ihss
provider. I live in the city of
cota decause sarc I've been a
provider for 17 years, and I
take care of my beautiful boy,
as you can see. He is 19 years
old -- he is 19 years old, and
I've cared for him since the day
he was born. I just like to
share a little bit about my
story with you. I worked prior
in the corporate world for many
years doing everything --
complete op assistant medical.
I never did anything like that.
My son was born with profound
needs requiring 24 hours care.
I knew nothing about this, so I
relied on the doctors and nurses
and therapists and everyone else
to tell me what to do and how to
take care of my son. I has
profound needs, like I said,
requiring 24 hours care. He is
blind. He's non-verbal. He is
fed through a tube. I take care
of all of his living activities
that he does. And as time went
on, I started questioning
things. And this program has
allowed me to -- was able to
allow me to stay home with him,
to do research, to find out what
I can better do. So the first
thing is -- one of the things is
my son -- they told me when he
was very young and he was in the
hospital for all of the time for
the first three years of his
life, that's all I did, was in
the hospital. He has a seizure
disorder. And he was on
multiple medications for that.
they just don't work, so they
would add another one, another
one. So I was okay with that.
He was fed through ag tube.
Every time offer stopped nursing
him, he would -- he had to
receive nutrition, medical-grade
nutrition. Every time I put it,
in he would throw it up. So one
day decided to start feeding him
with homemade food. I just
decided why don't I blend
something and put it. Heaven's
forbid, he started eating, he
was able to keep it down. Real
food kept it down. Then I said
why do you want me to keep
adding more seizure meds. They
don't work. I researched
alternative medications, seizure
medications. And they started
working. So I started taking
them away. And most of these
doctors you all know. Thomas is
a child of choc hospital and you
will of a the specialty there is
and they do great with him, but
he has thrived because I have
been allowed to stay home and
take care of him. They told me
he would never walk. After he
stopped throwing up and having
seizures, guess what, he walked.
We walked into the doctors, and
I would think they would run
down the hall going, oh, my GOD,
what did you do. He's in a much
better way because of this
program, and I'd like you to
consider doing what you can to
keep this program to allow
people to take care of their
loved ones.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
you.
>>clerk, robin stieler: andrew
and brian kay.
>>speaker: hello. I'm andrew,
as you know. I just want to say
I was here at beginning, and
man, I give you guys props for
what you guys do. It can be
pretty intense. This is my
first public meeting. So I am
not as experienced as many of
you in this. So it is my first.
I'll do my best. I just have
three topics that I want to
start with. First off, one of
the gentleman before me had
mentioned shelters. There's a
few agenda ago. I just want to
go off of that because a lot of
times nonprofit organization try
to do their best to get their
grants, right, and make sure
that the community and everybody
within the community is able to
help set these places up.
What's point if you don't even
know what you're putting your
money into let alone at least go
and see it for yourself, right.
I know that if I'm going to go
to a donation center or
somewhere, I walk around and
view it and look at it, and then
I put my money down, and go,
hey, this program is helping
kids, right. Many of the
programs that I've been to
personally experiencing
homelessness and going to
shelters, they do a thing with
favoritism, and it's very, very
sad because if somebody is not
to your liking or they don't
like your attitude or they don't
like something about you,
basically you're screwed, and
it's back to the streets. And I
don't know if you guys are aware
of this, but a lot of these
shelter and a lot of these
places had a really long waiting
list just to get in, so it's
very sad on seeing that. And so
even the ones that are
non-shelters such as orangewood
donation foundation in santa
ana, they do good work, but,
again, it's a lot of favoritism,
and it's very, very sad. And we
need to seriously do something
about this, you guys. It's very
serious. We're not here to put
money in and go in a work place
and take every little thing that
we see as personal aspect,
because when you're in a
workplace, it requires and
involves professionalism. Not
how you feel, not how much of a
bad day you had at home. Please
don't bring what you have at
home into your workspace,
especially as shelters when
we're trying to help people not
break them back down and push
them back in the streets. All
right. Thank you guys.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you.
>>clerk, robin stieler: brian
kay.
>>speaker: happy day. Earlier
in the meeting katrina foley
realized that she had made a
mistake, and she wanted to go
back and correct her mistake.
And recast her vote. That's
basically the first amendment
right there. You redress the
grievance. So you would think
that in the criminal case she'd
look at it and go, hey, brian
cark doesn't know where I live,
so even if I think he really
threatened me, it doesn't rise
to the level of a crime. You'd
that I she'd be able to ask
vincent sarmiento, a defense
attorney, if that was the truth,
and that vince would be able to
stand up for the truth. You
don't have to stand up for me,
vince. You can hate me all the
want but I think that you would
stand up for the constitution
and the raw and that you would
help katrina foley not be
afraid. It's amazing, narsisco
ber rang oh, the gentleman who
fathered three children who were
marine veterans, you went to
court to get him -- get that
whole matter resolved. There's
a picture of you in the paper
walking out the courthouse right
there next to him. You
supported him. You endorsed
him. You worked to help get him
free. And it's a shame because
we have families right here to
petition you to not be forced
into family court without having
their petitions addressed.
Please realize you had to --
their petitions redressed.
Please realize you had to stand
over julie, you had to step over
me, who's filed a petition to
help narsisco. I'm not saying
it's bad. As a matter of fact,
thank you for helping him, but
realize that you had to walk
over, you had to tread over your
own constituents.
You know, you're all complaining
about I.C.E.. You're doing the
same thing as I.C.E. You have
police who are undertrained,
overviolent, committing crimes
against the people. You ignore
the petitions from the people,
and then you allow the police to
do what they've done. Vince,
could you help me with my issue.
You have chosen not to. And
lastly, honorable spitzer, he
lost a second lawsuit. There's
about eight more. And the
really sad thing is that all of
you are implicated. You know,
probably the saddest one is,
again, katrina foley, who has a
law firm dedicated to protecting
employees from abusive employers
was found to be an abusive
employer. And rather than
stopping this abusive behavior,
she's gonna do it eight more
times. I wish better for you.
Happy day.
>>clerk, robin stieler: no
further requests to speak,
MR. Chair.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you. Now we'll go to board
comments. Would any board
member like to speak?
Supervisor nguyen.
>>janet nguyen: thank you. I
have a few items to make
comments on. One, I wanted to,
again, thank you, the ceo and
also doug from oc care, who
attended our hud senior
officials meeting last week.
This came about because of my
trip to washington D.C. And, you
know, it's -- we were inquiring
about receiving additional
funding for our homeless efforts
and, so last week they came out,
they originally were actually
just going to stop by L.A. And
san diego, but because of our
trip to D.C., they stopped by
orange county. I don't remember
the last time hud actually came
to orange county, at least not
at the time that I remembered,
my first two terms on this
board. And since I've been
back. So it actually was very
exciting that we were able to
get home to orange county to
visit us. We toured the oc
rescue mission, homeless shelter
in tustin. It is a private
state of the art facility with a
high successive rate of
rehabilitation. Hud was very
impressed what they saw and, you
know, what I gather and -- is
that they highly encourage us to
apply for the funding that's
coming up with the nofa, that's
coming up. You know, they're
refocusing on homeless policy on
treatment, recovery, and
self-sufficiency. And so it's
actually, you know, exciting,
and I really appreciate your
comments at the meeting,
MR. CHAIRMAN, and sharing your
prevention solutions. I think
they -- their eyes were really
wide open when they heard about
it and couldn't believe that,
you know, such a program exists.
And, you know, the ceo
mentioned about the encampment
of, you know, from -- in 2018,
the clearing of the encampment,
whether it's the santa ana river
trail or the plaza of the flags
and how the county has helped
assist hundreds of individuals.
And so we'll continue to
communicate with hud and, you
know, I want to continue to
offer that orange county can be
a statewide leader in solving
the homeless crisis unlike other
counties. And they did mention
that the nofa coming up will be
very competitive. It's not
gonna be, you know, just because
you received it in the past you
will get it, and that's why
there's a lot of angst all
across the country, because most
folks depend on these fundings.
But they want measures --
measurements to be included.
And so I'm excited. And again,
thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, and
thank you to the ceo and also
doug. It was friday evening.
Didn't finish to a little close
to 9:00 or past 9:00 P.M.. So I
really appreciate you being part
of it. The other -- couple of
other things is I want to thank
doug and his staff and the
thousand volunteers on the point
in time count. This past --
couple of weeks ago now. This
is very important to us. So the
data is essential to access --
assess our coach homelessness
and whether we as a county has
done well or not or what each
city has done, if it has worked
or not. As we know, in 2024, we
had 7,322 homeless individuals,
which, you know, was an increase
from 2022 by 37%, and we did not
do any count in '23 or '25. And
so this count something going to
be important for us to see what
has been done since '24.
Whether our programs or the
city's programs have worked or
not worked, and whether we
continue those programs or stop
those programs, and we look at
whether, you know, it's -- what
to do going forward. And so I
really appreciate the city of
fountain valley because I joined
them, the team of the officers,
at my square park, and we drove
around in fountain valley to
look and talk to a lot of
individuals. And it's very
eye-opening to see what's
happening there, especially in
the evening. And so, again,
thank you to doug, the oc cares
staff and also the thousand of
volunteers that came out to help
at that -- to help. And last, I
just also want to thank the
board for celebrating lunar new
year with us. We had a great
time at the board meeting, and
lots of comments and
conversations of folks.
Appreciate the board for
continuing to recognize lunar
new year, particularly in our
district, would be for tet. And
I was also able to participate
in a lot of lunar new year
events in the district.
And I can say that, you know, I
want to give a shout-out to my
staff that a whole week and a
half was exhausting for us. We,
you know, when new year's eve
events, temple run, which, you
know, a lot of us got back at
probably 1:30 in the morning.
And so really appreciate my
staff for hanging in there and,
even though it was raining on
us, as well, for being out
there, for being troopers and
then into -- being a part the
tet parade this past weekend in
westminster and appreciate all
of their support and all of the
volunteers that came out to help
us in the parade as well, and
thank you to this board for the
recognition of lunar new year
and tet in orange county. Thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank
you, supervisor. Vice-chair.
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. And, yes,
this -- I feel like this year
has been the most celebrated
lunar new year of anytime I've
ever seen in our whole county.
So it's wonderful, so many
colorful, joyful celebration,
and thanks for bringing all of
the decorations to the sixth
floor and the nice treats that
you shared with us at our lunch
meeting last time. So lots of
things to celebrate here in
orange county. One thing -- one
issue that has been percolating
in our district is the san juan
creek channels. I want to thank
orange county public works and
our agricultural commissioner
for the time expended and the
deep dive in briefing with my
time on all of the county's san
juan and trabuco creeks and
maintenance plans, the different
ways we manage our channels, the
history of managing our channels
and the use of herbicides
specifically in our flood
channels. So the community has
been communicating with us quite
a bit about the san juan and
trabuco creeks. And as our team
knows well, I'm very much
opposed to herbicides in our
public spaces and our waterways.
I share -- I've shared many of
these concerns and all of the
questions that we are receiving
with our orange county public
works team and I'll continue
engaging with our county staff
on different alternatives. We
want to assure the public that
round-up/gliff say the, has not
been applied to the tra bush oh
or san juan creek flued channels
eyewitness news since JANUARY of
2025, the reason we know that is
because we received complaints
in JANUARY of 2025. Formal
complaints were made. An
investigation ensued. And
because we take these complaints
seriously, the investigation
found that the contractor was
not in compliance, and then our
county staff acted decisively.
Gliff say the has not been used
since then and not be applied
those channels again.
Glyfhosate. The county is only
approved to apply state water
board and epa approved
herbicides to vegetation and
flood control channels. And the
reason for that is so that
people don't experience flooding
in their homes. This channel
was developed and house built
and commercial retail built all
along it, and so it's a bagging
act to protect the homes from
flooding and keep the vegetation
out in a way that is respectful
of, you know, the humans and the
natural habitat that live in the
channel like fish. So we have
been following the protocols for
diluting the application to
ensure it remains as safe as
possible for humans, and we'll
continue to try to balance the
environmental needs, including
researching cost-effective
alternatives. I had a
discussion with county staff
yesterday about some
alternatives that I'm hoping
that we can research and pursue.
But also with the thought in
neighborhood we have to protect
the property and the people from
the threat of flooding. So if
you have questions for our
office or public works or the
healthcare agency, you can come
to our town hall. The town hall
is on monday MARCH 2nd at 6:00
P.M.. Please rsvp, and you can
contact our office to do so.
And you can contact public works
for any additional inquiries at
714-667-8800. And in the
interest of time, I want to just
focus quickly on travelers who
might be stuck in puerto
vallarta. In the fifth district
we have a lot of travelers that
go to puerto vallarta. The
country is pretty much on
lock-down in some areas,
tijuana, guadalajara, puerto
vallarta and the U.S. State
department is advising americans
as well as others that are
traveling to seek shelter,
minimize unnecessary movements,
remain in hotels or residences,
be aware of your surroundings.
Anyone needing assistance can
call from U.S. Or canada,
1-888-407-4747. Or if you're in
mexico and you need call
1-202-501-4444. Southwest
airlines, which travels direct
from jwa to mexico are advising
to check with
southwest.Com/traveladvisor for
information. And then the state
department has this american
citizens services task force for
U.S. Citizens in mexico, and you
can call a number to help get
returned travel 202-501-4444.
Or 1-888407-4747.
I already gave those numbers.
So with that, thank you to my
colleagues for a very productive
meeting today. And it's only
noon.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
vice-chair. Supervisor
sarmiento.
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
MR. Chair. I have just a few
items, and if the board will
indulge me on these, I'll try go
rapid me. I -- rapidly. I want
to thank our partners who helped
us with the health and resource
fair this saturday the 21st.
We hosted at anaheim high
school. We want to thank their
board of trustees and the
principal there. Principal
rubin.
He and his team were just very
gracious and opening up the
campus. It's a beautiful
campus. It's a historic campus,
and our partners, who kind of
anchored this were social
service agency, ahn tran was
there and also caloptima. So we
want to thank our partners who
were there, notably lestinac,
cap oc, second harvest food
bank, choc, central city,
united, across borders and many,
many others. They were doing
medical screenings, reading
glasses on the spot and just a
lot of good stuff, groceries,
diapers, people who were just
trying to help their neighbors.
Unfortunately, attendance wasn't
as large as we would have
expected just because we know
there was a lot of fear, and it
was palpable in people who were
there. We saw it in their
faces, and they explained to us
that their neighbors would have
attended had conditions been
different. But they're still
fearful of immigration raids and
enforcement that has communities
really kind of closed off. So
that was one. And the other one
is our warm program. We just
wanted to update, we know it's
beautiful weather right now.
It's 80 degrees outside right
now. Last week we had a lot of
rain and previously, and I'm
sure we'll have more. The warm
program in its second year is
our effort to stand up what was
the cold weather shelter, and on
JANUARY 1st, the program
started providing motel stays to
elementary-age students and
their families during periods of
inclement weather. We partner
with all five school districts
in our area, and for families in
need. So if you know of
anybody, please have them
contact their school districts,
teachers, principals so they can
connect with their program. It
was able to support some
families through some very cold
nights and continue to activate
on nights when temperatures drop
below 45 degrees and during
rainy weather. Lastly, I wanted
to touch on the report that was
just released by caloptima, and
that is the audit on findings.
It disclosed in the expenditures
major in the period when former
supervisor andrew do served on
the caloptima board. You know,
there was an article written on
it. It's a little less than
accurate, but to the extent that
it captured what the board was
trying to do at came optima,
which was to look back and see
if there was any undue influence
by the former supervisor because
he served as chair and served on
that board as director for many
years. I know that they try to
budgets two reports. One that
was released late last year.
That was a completely separate
investigation. That was into
the proposed acquisition of a
tustin property, which
ultimately was not consummated.
That was not an investigation
into MR. Do. That was based
upon a whistle blower claim that
was made by an employee. He was
part of that. He was all over
that narrative. But it wasn't
focused in on him. This audit
in particular that was released
and done by ankura was
specifically focused in on his
possible influence on any
funding that MAY have gone
through the agency. So the
board initiated this. It was
not obligated to do this. But
it wanted to make sure that in
the effort and in the spirit of
transparency -- they wanted to
make sure that they looked back
and saw what his dealings were
there. And although it was
inclusive, that doesn't mean
that there weren't findings or
recommendations that we could
take and use going forward. And
that's where I use praise for
the report. It be wasn't really
for the findings. I know that
there was some difficulty by the
auditors to access information.
That, I'm certainly not
praising. I think there's some
work and improvements that could
be done, but to the extent that
the board took it upon itself to
initiate and complete these --
both an investigation and an
audit -- I think are good steps
for public agencies that are
trying to make sure that there
is good governance,
transparency, oversight and
there is work to be done
obviously from the
recommendations that were cited.
So that's something that I'm
sure the board will undertake.
But there have been already
action taken by the board,
strengthening the grant's
management policy,
standardsizing processes and
improving oversight on every
grant and updating the conflict
of interest policy to clarify
when conflicts must be
disclosed.
That was done here at county
because we know that was abused
by a former supervisor do. So
to the extent that there is
continuing work to be done,
obviously there was -- you know,
there's some compliance and
improvements that need to be
made. We know there is work to
be done. But to the extent that
this health plan doesn't just
necessarily do medical care. We
know that at caloptima, what we
see is good healthcare means
house, to make sure people have
a roof over their head is an
india of how people can be
either healthy or ill, access,
which is why we stood up for
programs doing street medicine,
which is basically doctors'
offices on wheels, which helps
people on the street so they can
receive medical care and
eventually get housing. Also we
know that many of our members
suffer from swo substance abuse
and we had narcan that was
distributed throughout the
county to make sure people had
that who were addicted or use
fentanyl. We know many of our
members suffer from food
insecurity, which is why 1.2
million was dedicated to second
harvest and cap oc to make sure
that we address those issues.
So the reason why I think that's
relevant is because this health
plan now, again, dispenses more
than just medical care. It does
grants. It works, community
partners and providers, and a
lot of times, you know, it is
not as familiar as maybe some of
the agencies that, you know, do
oversight compliance and
tracking of funds, you know, as
often as this health plan does.
We will certainly get into that,
you know, routine of making sure
that they track these things
better, and looking back, having
audits done, investigations
done, there are opportunities
for us to improve both here at
the county and at caloptima and
make sure that all public
dollars are accounted for,
there's responsibility and
oversight on those. So I just
wanted to make some clarity on,
that that I am very proud of our
board who undertook these things
voluntarily. Much work to be
done, and I believe a lot of
compliance training that, you
know, that plan could learn
from, you know, agencies that we
all sit on that do very good
work on track and oversight. So
with that, MR. Chair, those are
my comments for the day.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
supervisor. I will make a few
of my own. First, I'd like to
thank supervisor nguyen for
setting up the little seance we
had with the hud people and the
staff that attend as well, and
particularly our ceo. It was, I
thought, a good rapport that was
established, something I don't
think we've had in the past.
You can look at all of the words
in your application, but when
you put it face to face, it
really helps. I think we'll
move forward successfully when
we get to those various
applications that they were
talking about. And I had my
usual good time on valentine's
day. My eighth year in a row
that I've spent in the clerk's
office officiating weddings. I
was able to do six of them this
last valentine's day at the
anaheim office. And that for me
is always fun, to see some happy
people and participate in their
joy. We have a couple events
coming up. We have our elder
fraud prevention. There it is.
Up, there coming up this
thursday. Elderly people are
probability most often scammed
group. So we want to give them
as much information so they can
protect themselves. So that's
coming up. The information is
up there. It is thursday at
noon. We'll have a little
something to eat, as well, being
noontime. And then more fun, on
MARCH 14, coming up, assuming no
rain, we will be holding another
fishing derby for kids. On
MARCH 14, beginning at 8:00,
ending at 11:00. We do have
fish rods and bait and all that
and the lake will be stocked. I
hope you like catfish because
that's what we have available at
this time. Always fun to see a
5-year-old hold up a two-foot
catfish. Almost the same height
when they hold that up. If you
have a fishing license after 11,
there's still plenty of fish
there, you can join in, even
though you're not a kid. So
some fun things coming up for
me. We also at the end of the
day appreciate the orange county
employee association coming in
and providing lunch with their
hot dog machine that they have
there. So ceo agruye
rey, do you
have any -- ceo aguirre, do you
have any comments you'd like to
make.
>>michelle aguirre: I'll echo
the comments from yourself and
also from supervisor nguyen
related to our meeting with hud
on friday night. I think one of
the things that I found to be
most impactful was when we were
speaking about clearing the
riverbed, and a couple of the
graduates of the oc rescue
mission from actually on the
riverbed at that time. So it
was great to be able to
communicate with them and hear
their stories.
I thought it
was a great night also. So
thank you. And just one
shout-out, so this past friday,
the ceo government affairs and
communications team conducted an
oc cares photo shoot to dewpoint
the great work that our oc cares
initiative is doing. And it was
at craig regional park in
fullerton. We just want to give
kudos to the four parpght
probation officers, michael
castill, colleen burn, francisco
free was, and jorge cast none
for their time, professionalism
and their commitment to this
initiative and to our community
partner project kinship for
their participation. And then
this was right after the stormy
weather that we had last week.
And so a big thank you to the oc
parks crew who went above and
beyond to ensure that we had a
successful production at craig
park. Park ranger james kim,
supervising park ranger jason
arthur along with our
maintenance team of chavez,
caesar, alvarez and enrique
ororsco led a clean-up effort,
even repainting the hand ball
court before the photo shoot,
cleaning up debris, and just a
shout-out to you. Greatly
appreciate all of your efforts.
Thank you, chair.
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
MADAM Ceo. MADAM Clerk, you can
read the closed-session items.
>>clerk, robin stieler: cs-1 has
been deleted.
>>clerk, robin stieler: cs-2.
Public employee performance
evaluation-pursuant to
government code section 54957(B):
title:executive director of the
campaign finance and ethics commission.
(Continued from 2/10/26, item cs-2)
Scs3. County counsel-
conference with legal counsel-
existing litigation-pursuant
to government code section 54956.9(D)(1):
name of case: mind oc v. County
of orange, orange county
superior court case
no.: 30-2024-01442012-cu-co-cjc.
Scs4. County counsel-
conference with legal counsel-
existing litigation-pursuant
to government code section 54956.9(D)(1):
name of cases: clarisse magtoto
v. County of orange, orange
county superior court case no. 30-2022-01241335,
amy tallakson v. County of
orange, orange county superior
court case no. 30-2022-01241346,
shabnum azizi v. County of
orange, orange county superior
court case no. 30-2022-01232544,
mallory miller v. County of
orange, orange county superior
court case no. 30-2022-01252436,
bethel cope-vega v. County of
orange, orange county superior
court case no. 30-2022-01252452,
mohammad abuershaid v. County of
orange, orange county superior
court case no. 30-2022-01243989,
and tracy miller v. County of
orange et al., orange county
superior court case no. 30-2022-01262015.
>>chair, doug chaffee: we are
adjourned to closed sessions.
>>leon page: pursuant to
government code section 5 foifer
5497b and section d the board
met in closed sessions to
discuss the items referenced on
today's agenda as cs2, cs3, and
scs4. Cs1 was actually deleted.
With respect to those three
items the board took no
reportable action in closed
sessions today. Thank you.
>>clerk, robin stieler: that
concludes today'sed a. The next
meeting is scheduled for tuesday
MARCH 10th at 9:30 A.M.
Today's meeting of the orange
county board of supervisors