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[Orange county board of

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>>chair, doug chaffee: check

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check.

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>>v. Chair, katrina foley: check

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check.

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>>vincente sarmiento: check

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check.

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>>clerk, robin stieler: check check

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>>chair, doug chaffee: this

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morning I'm chair doug chaffee

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and 4th district supervisor

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and joined this morning with

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vice-chair katrina foley.

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National weights and measures

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week is observed each year in

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the first full week of MARCH.

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We are in advance for a change,

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recognition of PRESIDENT John

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addams signing the first united

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states weights and measures law

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on MARCH 2, 1799.

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Every day 3.2 million residents

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and businesses as well as 59

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million-plus annual visitors

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rely on accurate measurements

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and pricing when purchasing

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groceries, fuel, utilities,

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consumer goods and services.

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The orange county office of

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weights and measures ensures

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weighing and measuring devices

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are accurate, protecting

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millions of dollars in

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transactions. With that, I'd

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like to invite up jose air

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yugoslav ga, the orange county

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commissioner and also known as

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the sealer of weights and

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measures. Anthony lee, deputy

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sealer of the weights measures,

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and anna watts, our business

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service analysts, hugo soto,

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senior agricultural standards

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inspector, marinda herr,

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agricultural standards

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inspector. Mark johnson, senior

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inspector, david scorski,

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agricultural standards

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inspector, and alicia barry, our

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senior deputy D.A. So we do

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have some oversight from the

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D.A.'s office in here as well..

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Orange county ranks third

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statewide in the number of

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measuring device under our

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jurisdiction, reflecting the

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scale and complexity of the

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local economy. Through the

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diligent work, the office of

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weights and measures' staff,

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consumers are protected and

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ensured that prices are fair. I

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want to thank staff for their

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work that often goes

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unrecognized. We'd now like to

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invite vice-chair foley with any

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remarks she'd care to make.

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>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

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you. Great to be here. Good

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morning. Katrina foley, county

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supervisor representing the

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fabulous fifth district. And as

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mentioned by our CHAIRMAN, we

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are today recognizing weights

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and measures week here in orange

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county. And this rear's theme

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is "we measure what matters."

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and this reflects our commitment

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to fairness, accountability, and

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public protection. Every time

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residents fill up at the gas

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pump, buy groceries or receive a

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delivery, they trust that they

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receive exactly what they paid

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for. Dedicated professionals

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like these behind me inspect,

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test, and verify these systems

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every single day. Our weights

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and measures team at oc public

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works safeguards consumer

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dollars, ensures a level playing

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field for businesses and quietly

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keeps our local economy running

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fairly and efficiently.

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Standard measurements are so

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important, and they help us

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perform even simple tasks like

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purchasing carpet, laundry

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detergent, fabric, any number of

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things. And I do think it's so

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important because before I

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became a county supervise, I

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didn't even know that we had

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this group. And so it's very

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important because it's all about

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protecting our consumers and

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making sure, like I said, that

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we get what we pay for. So

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thank you for all of the work

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that you do. And sometimes it's

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hard because people get mad at

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you and they don't like you in

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their business. But you're

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there to protect the consumers.

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>>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,

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vice-chair foley, thank you so

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much for being here, and thank

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you for the opportunity to be

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here and highlight a little bit

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of the work of the weights and

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measures professionals. My name

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is jose arriaga, also known as

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the county sealer of weights and

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measures. I want to share a

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little bit of information what

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is weights and measures. As

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mentioned, sometimes we don't

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even know what weights and

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measures is, it's quietly in our

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communities, but I assure you

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that by the end of the day today

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the work of the individuals will

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touch your life and every single

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day for the rest of our days,

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every single resident is touched

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by the work of these

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individuals. When you pump fuel

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at that gas station and you see

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that seal that says it was

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accurate when tested, that

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ensures that that device -- we

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call them a device -- it meets

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the conform plans. It is within

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a tolerance that ensures that

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you get what you pay for. It's

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not just the 20,000 gas pumps in

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the 100,000 water submeters,

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20,000 electric watt meters, it

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includes the thousands of scales

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at grocery stores, and it's not

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just devices, the work weights

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and measures officials expands

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beyond those devices. It also

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applies to the price that you

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pay. We do not set the price

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but ensure that the price that

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every consumer pays is the

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lowest advertised price. We

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have a team of secret shoppers,

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some of them are here, where

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they will go into thousands of

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retail stores every year and

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verify the accuracy of those

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prices on the shelves against

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the point of sales system. And

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it's beyond pricing. When you

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buy commodities by count,

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weight, measure, when you pour a

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gallon from a gallon of milk to

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your 16 ounce box of cereal,

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well, hopefully it's in a bowl,

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how do you know there's a gallon

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in there? When you buy items by

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count, how do you know what's in

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there by weight? The other

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thing we do, one of the other

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programs we play a critical role

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here in our community is that

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our officials respond to

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hundreds of complaints of

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residents where they buy canned

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goods, packaged goods, and we're

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verifying the accuracy of that

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label and the content of those

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retail economy, but more

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importantly, we are protecting

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an over$300 billion gdp economy

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here in orange county. I do

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want to thank the officials. I

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want to thank the team here for

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the work that they do every

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single day. They are committed.

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I also want to provide a

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special thanks to our partners

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with the district attorney's

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office. A lot of our work

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relies on compliance through

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education, through awareness,

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occasionally through

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administrative actions, but

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sometimes we have to go beyond

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and do prosecutions and that is

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where our district attorney's

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office comes in. Alicia, thank

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you so much for you and your

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team for all of the help and

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support. They help us achieve

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our goals of protecting the

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consumers hear in orange county.

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With that, when we say thank

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you. And if you ever feel that

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anything you buy, the quantity,

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the price, the weight is

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inaccurate, please reach out to

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our office. We are a very small

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team. We do a lot of coverage,

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but we actually need the help of

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every single resident and every

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single business in orange county

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to help protect each other. So

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please reach out to our office

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if you have any questions, if he

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ever want to learn about what we

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do, if you want to come work

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with us, it's an amazing job.

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There's never a boring day here.

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Thank you.

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>>chair, doug chaffee: and that

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concludes our presentations this

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morning. We will begin our

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regular meeting at 9:30. Thank

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meeting will begin

291
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shortly]

292
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[Orange county board of

293
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supervisors-

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meeting will begin

295
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shortly]

296
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[Orange county board of

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supervisors-

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meeting will begin

299
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shortly]

300
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[Orange county board of

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supervisors-

302
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meeting will begin

303
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shortly]

304
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[Orange county board of

305
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supervisors-

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meeting will begin

307
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shortly]

308
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[Orange county board of

309
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supervisors-

310
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meeting will begin

311
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shortly]

312
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[Orange county board of

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supervisors-

314
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meeting will begin

315
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shortly]

316
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[Orange county board of

317
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supervisors-

318
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meeting will begin

319
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shortly]

320
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[Orange county board of

321
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supervisors-

322
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meeting will begin

323
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shortly]

324
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[Orange county board of

325
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supervisors-

326
00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:49,176
meeting will begin

327
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shortly]

328
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[Orange county board of

329
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supervisors-

330
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meeting will begin

331
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shortly]

332
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[Orange county board of

333
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supervisors-

334
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meeting will begin

335
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shortly]

336
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[Orange county board of

337
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supervisors-

338
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meeting will begin

339
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shortly]

340
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[Orange county board of

341
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supervisors-

342
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meeting will begin

343
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shortly]

344
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[Orange county board of

345
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supervisors-

346
00:12:07,527 --> 00:12:09,527
meeting will begin

347
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shortly]

348
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[Orange county board of

349
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supervisors-

350
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meeting will begin

351
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shortly]

352
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[Orange county board of

353
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supervisors-

354
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meeting will begin

355
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shortly]

356
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[Orange county board of

357
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supervisors-

358
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meeting will begin

359
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shortly]

360
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[Orange county board of

361
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supervisors-

362
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meeting will begin

363
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shortly]

364
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[Orange county board of

365
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supervisors-

366
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meeting will begin

367
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shortly]

368
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[Orange county board of

369
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supervisors-

370
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meeting will begin

371
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shortly]

372
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[Orange county board of

373
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supervisors-

374
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meeting will begin

375
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shortly]

376
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[Orange county board of

377
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supervisors-

378
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meeting will begin

379
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shortly]

380
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[Orange county board of

381
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supervisors-

382
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meeting will begin

383
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shortly]

384
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[Orange county board of

385
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supervisors-

386
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meeting will begin

387
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shortly]

388
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[Orange county board of

389
00:12:53,539 --> 00:12:53,940
supervisors-

390
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meeting will begin

391
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shortly]

392
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[Orange county board of

393
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supervisors-

394
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meeting will begin

395
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shortly]

396
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[Orange county board of

397
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supervisors-

398
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meeting will begin

399
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shortly]

400
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[Orange county board of

401
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supervisors-

402
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meeting will begin

403
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shortly]

404
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[Orange county board of

405
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supervisors-

406
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meeting will begin

407
00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:16,396
shortly]

408
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[Orange county board of

409
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supervisors-

410
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meeting will begin

411
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shortly]

412
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[Orange county board of

413
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supervisors-

414
00:13:19,233 --> 00:13:21,233
meeting will begin

415
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shortly]

416
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[Orange county board of

417
00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:23,470
supervisors-

418
00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:25,470
meeting will begin

419
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shortly]

420
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[Orange county board of

421
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supervisors-

422
00:13:29,777 --> 00:13:30,444
meeting will begin

423
00:13:30,444 --> 00:13:31,145
shortly]

424
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[Orange county board of

425
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supervisors-

426
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meeting will begin

427
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shortly]

428
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[Orange county board of

429
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supervisors-

430
00:13:36,182 --> 00:13:38,182
meeting will begin

431
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shortly]

432
00:13:41,688 --> 00:13:42,210
[Orange county board of

433
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supervisors-

434
00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:43,900
meeting will begin

435
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shortly]

436
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[Orange county board of

437
00:13:44,158 --> 00:13:44,558
supervisors-

438
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meeting will begin

439
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shortly]

440
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[Orange county board of

441
00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:48,762
supervisors-

442
00:13:48,762 --> 00:13:50,762
meeting will begin

443
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shortly]

444
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[Orange county board of

445
00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:55,102
supervisors-

446
00:13:55,102 --> 00:13:55,736
meeting will begin

447
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shortly]

448
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[Orange county board of

449
00:13:56,804 --> 00:13:57,203
supervisors-

450
00:13:57,203 --> 00:13:59,203
meeting will begin

451
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shortly]

452
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[Orange county board of

453
00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:01,441
supervisors-

454
00:14:01,441 --> 00:14:03,441
meeting will begin

455
00:14:06,313 --> 00:14:07,140
shortly]

456
00:14:07,140 --> 00:14:07,348
[Orange county board of

457
00:14:07,348 --> 00:14:07,748
supervisors-

458
00:14:07,748 --> 00:14:08,381
meeting will begin

459
00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:09,149
shortly]

460
00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:09,482
[Orange county board of

461
00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:09,883
supervisors-

462
00:14:09,883 --> 00:14:11,883
meeting will begin

463
00:14:12,620 --> 00:14:13,353
shortly]

464
00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:13,687
[Orange county board of

465
00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:14,880
supervisors-

466
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,880
meeting will begin

467
00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:19,659
shortly]

468
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[Orange county board of

469
00:14:19,993 --> 00:14:20,394
supervisors-

470
00:14:20,394 --> 00:14:21,610
meeting will begin

471
00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:21,795
shortly]

472
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[Orange county board of

473
00:14:22,129 --> 00:14:22,529
supervisors-

474
00:14:22,529 --> 00:14:24,529
meeting will begin

475
00:14:25,266 --> 00:14:26,000
shortly]

476
00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,333
[Orange county board of

477
00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:26,733
supervisors-

478
00:14:26,733 --> 00:14:28,733
meeting will begin

479
00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:32,339
shortly]

480
00:14:32,339 --> 00:14:32,673
[Orange county board of

481
00:14:32,673 --> 00:14:33,730
supervisors-

482
00:14:33,730 --> 00:14:33,707
meeting will begin

483
00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:34,775
shortly]

484
00:14:34,775 --> 00:14:35,109
[Orange county board of

485
00:14:35,109 --> 00:14:35,509
supervisors-

486
00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:37,509
meeting will begin

487
00:14:37,945 --> 00:14:38,679
shortly]

488
00:14:38,679 --> 00:14:39,130
[Orange county board of

489
00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:39,413
supervisors-

490
00:14:39,413 --> 00:14:41,413
meeting will begin

491
00:14:44,284 --> 00:14:44,985
shortly]

492
00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:45,319
[Orange county board of

493
00:14:45,319 --> 00:14:45,719
supervisors-

494
00:14:45,719 --> 00:14:46,353
meeting will begin

495
00:14:46,353 --> 00:14:47,870
shortly]

496
00:14:47,870 --> 00:14:47,420
[Orange county board of

497
00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:47,821
supervisors-

498
00:14:47,821 --> 00:14:49,821
meeting will begin

499
00:14:50,591 --> 00:14:51,325
shortly]

500
00:14:51,325 --> 00:14:51,658
[Orange county board of

501
00:14:51,658 --> 00:14:52,580
supervisors-

502
00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:54,580
meeting will begin

503
00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:57,631
shortly]

504
00:14:57,631 --> 00:14:57,964
[Orange county board of

505
00:14:57,964 --> 00:14:58,365
supervisors-

506
00:14:58,365 --> 00:14:59,330
meeting will begin

507
00:14:59,330 --> 00:14:59,767
shortly]

508
00:14:59,767 --> 00:15:00,100
[Orange county board of

509
00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:00,500
supervisors-

510
00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:02,500
meeting will begin

511
00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:03,971
shortly]

512
00:15:03,971 --> 00:15:04,305
[Orange county board of

513
00:15:04,305 --> 00:15:04,705
supervisors-

514
00:15:04,705 --> 00:15:06,705
meeting will begin

515
00:15:09,577 --> 00:15:10,310
shortly]

516
00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:10,644
[Orange county board of

517
00:15:10,644 --> 00:15:11,450
supervisors-

518
00:15:11,450 --> 00:15:11,679
meeting will begin

519
00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:12,412
shortly]

520
00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:12,747
[Orange county board of

521
00:15:12,747 --> 00:15:13,147
supervisors-

522
00:15:13,147 --> 00:15:15,147
meeting will begin

523
00:15:15,883 --> 00:15:16,650
shortly]

524
00:15:16,650 --> 00:15:16,983
[Orange county board of

525
00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:17,384
supervisors-

526
00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:19,384
meeting will begin

527
00:15:22,256 --> 00:15:22,956
shortly]

528
00:15:22,956 --> 00:15:23,290
[Orange county board of

529
00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:23,690
supervisors-

530
00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:24,325
meeting will begin

531
00:15:24,325 --> 00:15:25,580
shortly]

532
00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:25,393
[Orange county board of

533
00:15:25,393 --> 00:15:25,793
supervisors-

534
00:15:25,793 --> 00:15:27,793
meeting will begin

535
00:15:28,562 --> 00:15:29,296
shortly]

536
00:15:29,296 --> 00:15:29,630
[Orange county board of

537
00:15:29,630 --> 00:15:30,300
supervisors-

538
00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:32,300
meeting will begin

539
00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:35,603
shortly]

540
00:15:35,603 --> 00:15:35,936
[Orange county board of

541
00:15:35,936 --> 00:15:36,337
supervisors-

542
00:15:36,337 --> 00:15:36,970
meeting will begin

543
00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:37,737
shortly]

544
00:15:37,737 --> 00:15:38,720
[Orange county board of

545
00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:38,472
supervisors-

546
00:15:38,472 --> 00:15:40,472
meeting will begin

547
00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:41,943
shortly]

548
00:15:41,943 --> 00:15:42,276
[Orange county board of

549
00:15:42,276 --> 00:15:42,944
supervisors-

550
00:15:42,944 --> 00:15:44,944
meeting will begin

551
00:15:47,548 --> 00:15:48,282
shortly]

552
00:15:48,282 --> 00:15:48,616
[Orange county board of

553
00:15:48,616 --> 00:15:49,160
supervisors-

554
00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,650
meeting will begin

555
00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:50,383
shortly]

556
00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:50,718
[Orange county board of

557
00:15:50,718 --> 00:15:51,118
supervisors-

558
00:15:51,118 --> 00:15:53,118
meeting will begin

559
00:15:53,854 --> 00:15:54,621
shortly]

560
00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:55,880
[Orange county board of

561
00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:55,489
supervisors-

562
00:15:55,489 --> 00:15:57,489
meeting will begin

563
00:16:00,228 --> 00:16:00,928
shortly]

564
00:16:00,928 --> 00:16:01,261
[Orange county board of

565
00:16:01,261 --> 00:16:01,661
supervisors-

566
00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:02,296
meeting will begin

567
00:16:02,296 --> 00:16:03,300
shortly]

568
00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:03,364
[Orange county board of

569
00:16:03,364 --> 00:16:03,764
supervisors-

570
00:16:03,764 --> 00:16:05,764
meeting will begin

571
00:16:06,534 --> 00:16:07,268
shortly]

572
00:16:07,268 --> 00:16:07,602
[Orange county board of

573
00:16:07,602 --> 00:16:08,100
supervisors-

574
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,100
meeting will begin

575
00:16:12,874 --> 00:16:13,574
shortly]

576
00:16:13,574 --> 00:16:13,908
[Orange county board of

577
00:16:13,908 --> 00:16:14,308
supervisors-

578
00:16:14,308 --> 00:16:14,942
meeting will begin

579
00:16:14,942 --> 00:16:15,676
shortly]

580
00:16:15,676 --> 00:16:16,100
[Orange county board of

581
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:16,410
supervisors-

582
00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:18,410
meeting will begin

583
00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:19,914
shortly]

584
00:16:19,914 --> 00:16:20,248
[Orange county board of

585
00:16:20,248 --> 00:16:20,648
supervisors-

586
00:16:20,648 --> 00:16:22,648
meeting will begin

587
00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:26,254
shortly]

588
00:16:26,254 --> 00:16:26,587
[Orange county board of

589
00:16:26,587 --> 00:16:26,988
supervisors-

590
00:16:26,988 --> 00:16:27,621
meeting will begin

591
00:16:27,621 --> 00:16:28,356
shortly]

592
00:16:28,356 --> 00:16:28,689
[Orange county board of

593
00:16:28,689 --> 00:16:29,900
supervisors-

594
00:16:29,900 --> 00:16:31,900
meeting will begin

595
00:16:31,826 --> 00:16:32,593
shortly]

596
00:16:32,593 --> 00:16:32,927
[Orange county board of

597
00:16:32,927 --> 00:16:33,327
supervisors-

598
00:16:33,327 --> 00:16:35,327
meeting will begin

599
00:16:38,199 --> 00:16:38,899
shortly]

600
00:16:38,899 --> 00:16:39,233
[Orange county board of

601
00:16:39,233 --> 00:16:39,634
supervisors-

602
00:16:39,634 --> 00:16:40,268
meeting will begin

603
00:16:40,268 --> 00:16:41,200
shortly]

604
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:41,335
[Orange county board of

605
00:16:41,335 --> 00:16:41,736
supervisors-

606
00:16:41,736 --> 00:16:43,736
meeting will begin

607
00:16:44,472 --> 00:16:45,239
shortly]

608
00:16:45,239 --> 00:16:45,573
[Orange county board of

609
00:16:45,573 --> 00:16:45,973
supervisors-

610
00:16:45,973 --> 00:16:47,973
meeting will begin

611
00:16:50,845 --> 00:16:51,546
shortly]

612
00:16:51,546 --> 00:16:51,879
[Orange county board of

613
00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:52,580
supervisors-

614
00:16:52,580 --> 00:16:52,980
meeting will begin

615
00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:53,648
shortly]

616
00:16:53,648 --> 00:16:53,981
[Orange county board of

617
00:16:53,981 --> 00:16:54,382
supervisors-

618
00:16:54,382 --> 00:16:56,382
meeting will begin

619
00:16:57,151 --> 00:16:57,885
shortly]

620
00:16:57,885 --> 00:16:58,218
[Orange county board of

621
00:16:58,218 --> 00:16:58,619
supervisors-

622
00:16:58,619 --> 00:17:00,619
meeting will begin

623
00:17:03,491 --> 00:17:04,225
shortly]

624
00:17:04,225 --> 00:17:04,559
[Orange county board of

625
00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:04,959
supervisors-

626
00:17:04,959 --> 00:17:05,593
meeting will begin

627
00:17:05,593 --> 00:17:06,327
shortly]

628
00:17:06,327 --> 00:17:06,660
[Orange county board of

629
00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:07,610
supervisors-

630
00:17:07,610 --> 00:17:09,610
meeting will begin

631
00:17:09,797 --> 00:17:10,531
shortly]

632
00:17:10,531 --> 00:17:10,865
[Orange county board of

633
00:17:10,865 --> 00:17:11,265
supervisors-

634
00:17:11,265 --> 00:17:13,265
meeting will begin

635
00:17:16,137 --> 00:17:16,871
shortly]

636
00:17:16,871 --> 00:17:17,205
[Orange county board of

637
00:17:17,205 --> 00:17:17,605
supervisors-

638
00:17:17,605 --> 00:17:18,239
meeting will begin

639
00:17:18,239 --> 00:17:19,730
shortly]

640
00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:19,407
[Orange county board of

641
00:17:19,407 --> 00:17:19,807
supervisors-

642
00:17:19,807 --> 00:17:21,807
meeting will begin

643
00:17:22,443 --> 00:17:23,210
shortly]

644
00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:23,543
[Orange county board of

645
00:17:23,543 --> 00:17:23,944
supervisors-

646
00:17:23,944 --> 00:17:25,944
meeting will begin

647
00:17:28,817 --> 00:17:29,517
shortly]

648
00:17:29,517 --> 00:17:29,850
[Orange county board of

649
00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:30,251
supervisors-

650
00:17:30,251 --> 00:17:30,885
meeting will begin

651
00:17:30,885 --> 00:17:31,653
shortly]

652
00:17:31,653 --> 00:17:31,986
[Orange county board of

653
00:17:31,986 --> 00:17:32,386
supervisors-

654
00:17:32,386 --> 00:17:34,386
meeting will begin

655
00:17:35,123 --> 00:17:35,857
shortly]

656
00:17:35,857 --> 00:17:36,190
[Orange county board of

657
00:17:36,190 --> 00:17:36,591
supervisors-

658
00:17:36,591 --> 00:17:38,591
meeting will begin

659
00:17:41,462 --> 00:17:42,163
shortly]

660
00:17:42,163 --> 00:17:42,497
[Orange county board of

661
00:17:42,497 --> 00:17:42,897
supervisors-

662
00:17:42,897 --> 00:17:43,564
meeting will begin

663
00:17:43,564 --> 00:17:44,298
shortly]

664
00:17:44,298 --> 00:17:44,632
[Orange county board of

665
00:17:44,632 --> 00:17:45,330
supervisors-

666
00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:47,330
meeting will begin

667
00:17:47,769 --> 00:17:48,502
shortly]

668
00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:48,837
[Orange county board of

669
00:17:48,837 --> 00:17:49,237
supervisors-

670
00:17:49,237 --> 00:17:51,237
meeting will begin

671
00:17:54,109 --> 00:17:55,176
shortly]

672
00:17:55,176 --> 00:17:55,510
[Orange county board of

673
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:55,910
supervisors-

674
00:17:55,910 --> 00:17:56,211
meeting will begin

675
00:17:56,211 --> 00:17:56,945
shortly]

676
00:17:56,945 --> 00:17:57,278
[Orange county board of

677
00:17:57,278 --> 00:17:57,679
supervisors-

678
00:17:57,679 --> 00:17:59,679
meeting will begin

679
00:18:00,414 --> 00:18:01,181
shortly]

680
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:01,516
[Orange county board of

681
00:18:01,516 --> 00:18:01,916
supervisors-

682
00:18:01,916 --> 00:18:03,916
meeting will begin

683
00:18:06,788 --> 00:18:07,489
shortly]

684
00:18:07,489 --> 00:18:07,822
[Orange county board of

685
00:18:07,822 --> 00:18:08,222
supervisors-

686
00:18:08,222 --> 00:18:08,857
meeting will begin

687
00:18:08,857 --> 00:18:09,590
shortly]

688
00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:09,924
[Orange county board of

689
00:18:09,924 --> 00:18:10,458
supervisors-

690
00:18:10,458 --> 00:18:12,458
meeting will begin

691
00:18:13,940 --> 00:18:13,828
shortly]

692
00:18:13,828 --> 00:18:14,162
[Orange county board of

693
00:18:14,162 --> 00:18:14,562
supervisors-

694
00:18:14,562 --> 00:18:16,562
meeting will begin

695
00:18:19,433 --> 00:18:20,135
shortly]

696
00:18:20,135 --> 00:18:20,468
[Orange county board of

697
00:18:20,468 --> 00:18:20,869
supervisors-

698
00:18:20,869 --> 00:18:21,536
meeting will begin

699
00:18:21,536 --> 00:18:22,237
shortly]

700
00:18:22,237 --> 00:18:22,570
[Orange county board of

701
00:18:22,570 --> 00:18:22,970
supervisors-

702
00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:24,970
meeting will begin

703
00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:26,474
shortly]

704
00:18:26,474 --> 00:18:26,808
[Orange county board of

705
00:18:26,808 --> 00:18:27,208
supervisors-

706
00:18:27,208 --> 00:18:29,208
meeting will begin

707
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:32,814
shortly]

708
00:18:32,814 --> 00:18:33,148
[Orange county board of

709
00:18:33,148 --> 00:18:33,548
supervisors-

710
00:18:33,548 --> 00:18:34,181
meeting will begin

711
00:18:34,181 --> 00:18:34,916
shortly]

712
00:18:34,916 --> 00:18:35,250
[Orange county board of

713
00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:35,650
supervisors-

714
00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:37,650
meeting will begin

715
00:18:38,386 --> 00:18:39,120
shortly]

716
00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:39,454
[Orange county board of

717
00:18:39,454 --> 00:18:39,854
supervisors-

718
00:18:39,854 --> 00:18:41,854
meeting will begin

719
00:18:44,726 --> 00:18:45,460
shortly]

720
00:18:45,460 --> 00:18:45,793
[Orange county board of

721
00:18:45,793 --> 00:18:46,194
supervisors-

722
00:18:46,194 --> 00:18:46,827
meeting will begin

723
00:18:46,827 --> 00:18:47,562
shortly]

724
00:18:47,562 --> 00:18:47,896
[Orange county board of

725
00:18:47,896 --> 00:18:48,296
supervisors-

726
00:18:48,296 --> 00:18:50,296
meeting will begin

727
00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:51,800
shortly]

728
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,133
[Orange county board of

729
00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:52,533
supervisors-

730
00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:54,533
meeting will begin

731
00:18:57,405 --> 00:18:58,106
shortly]

732
00:18:58,106 --> 00:18:58,440
[Orange county board of

733
00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:58,840
supervisors-

734
00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,507
meeting will begin

735
00:18:59,507 --> 00:19:00,208
shortly]

736
00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:00,541
[Orange county board of

737
00:19:00,541 --> 00:19:00,942
supervisors-

738
00:19:00,942 --> 00:19:02,942
meeting will begin

739
00:19:03,712 --> 00:19:04,446
shortly]

740
00:19:04,446 --> 00:19:04,778
[Orange county board of

741
00:19:04,778 --> 00:19:05,179
supervisors-

742
00:19:05,179 --> 00:19:07,179
meeting will begin

743
00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:10,752
shortly]

744
00:19:10,752 --> 00:19:11,860
[Orange county board of

745
00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:11,486
supervisors-

746
00:19:11,486 --> 00:19:12,154
meeting will begin

747
00:19:12,154 --> 00:19:12,887
shortly]

748
00:19:12,887 --> 00:19:13,221
[Orange county board of

749
00:19:13,221 --> 00:19:13,621
supervisors-

750
00:19:13,621 --> 00:19:15,621
meeting will begin

751
00:19:16,358 --> 00:19:17,910
shortly]

752
00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:17,425
[Orange county board of

753
00:19:17,425 --> 00:19:17,825
supervisors-

754
00:19:17,825 --> 00:19:19,825
meeting will begin

755
00:19:22,697 --> 00:19:23,431
shortly]

756
00:19:23,431 --> 00:19:23,765
[Orange county board of

757
00:19:23,765 --> 00:19:24,166
supervisors-

758
00:19:24,166 --> 00:19:24,800
meeting will begin

759
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,534
shortly]

760
00:19:25,534 --> 00:19:25,867
[Orange county board of

761
00:19:25,867 --> 00:19:26,268
supervisors-

762
00:19:26,268 --> 00:19:28,268
meeting will begin

763
00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:29,771
shortly]

764
00:19:29,771 --> 00:19:30,105
[Orange county board of

765
00:19:30,105 --> 00:19:30,504
supervisors-

766
00:19:30,504 --> 00:19:32,504
meeting will begin

767
00:19:35,377 --> 00:19:36,770
shortly]

768
00:19:36,770 --> 00:19:36,411
[Orange county board of

769
00:19:36,411 --> 00:19:36,812
supervisors-

770
00:19:36,812 --> 00:19:37,446
meeting will begin

771
00:19:37,446 --> 00:19:38,179
shortly]

772
00:19:38,179 --> 00:19:38,513
[Orange county board of

773
00:19:38,513 --> 00:19:38,914
supervisors-

774
00:19:38,914 --> 00:19:40,914
meeting will begin

775
00:19:41,683 --> 00:19:42,417
shortly]

776
00:19:42,417 --> 00:19:42,750
[Orange county board of

777
00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:43,151
supervisors-

778
00:19:43,151 --> 00:19:45,151
meeting will begin

779
00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:48,724
shortly]

780
00:19:48,724 --> 00:19:49,570
[Orange county board of

781
00:19:49,570 --> 00:19:49,458
supervisors-

782
00:19:49,458 --> 00:19:50,125
meeting will begin

783
00:19:50,125 --> 00:19:50,858
shortly]

784
00:19:50,858 --> 00:19:51,193
[Orange county board of

785
00:19:51,193 --> 00:19:51,593
supervisors-

786
00:19:51,593 --> 00:19:53,593
meeting will begin

787
00:19:54,329 --> 00:19:55,620
shortly]

788
00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:55,397
[Orange county board of

789
00:19:55,397 --> 00:19:56,131
supervisors-

790
00:19:56,131 --> 00:19:58,131
meeting will begin

791
00:20:00,669 --> 00:20:01,402
shortly]

792
00:20:01,402 --> 00:20:01,737
[Orange county board of

793
00:20:01,737 --> 00:20:02,137
supervisors-

794
00:20:02,137 --> 00:20:02,771
meeting will begin

795
00:20:02,771 --> 00:20:03,505
shortly]

796
00:20:03,505 --> 00:20:03,839
[Orange county board of

797
00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:04,239
supervisors-

798
00:20:04,239 --> 00:20:06,239
meeting will begin

799
00:20:06,975 --> 00:20:07,742
shortly]

800
00:20:07,742 --> 00:20:08,760
[Orange county board of

801
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:08,477
supervisors-

802
00:20:08,477 --> 00:20:10,477
meeting will begin

803
00:20:13,348 --> 00:20:14,490
shortly]

804
00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:14,382
[Orange county board of

805
00:20:14,382 --> 00:20:14,782
supervisors-

806
00:20:14,782 --> 00:20:15,450
meeting will begin

807
00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:16,151
shortly]

808
00:20:16,151 --> 00:20:16,484
[Orange county board of

809
00:20:16,484 --> 00:20:16,885
supervisors-

810
00:20:16,885 --> 00:20:18,885
meeting will begin

811
00:20:19,655 --> 00:20:20,389
shortly]

812
00:20:20,389 --> 00:20:20,722
[Orange county board of

813
00:20:20,722 --> 00:20:21,123
supervisors-

814
00:20:21,123 --> 00:20:23,123
meeting will begin

815
00:20:25,994 --> 00:20:26,695
shortly]

816
00:20:26,695 --> 00:20:27,290
[Orange county board of

817
00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:27,429
supervisors-

818
00:20:27,429 --> 00:20:28,620
meeting will begin

819
00:20:28,620 --> 00:20:28,830
shortly]

820
00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:29,164
[Orange county board of

821
00:20:29,164 --> 00:20:29,564
supervisors-

822
00:20:29,564 --> 00:20:31,564
meeting will begin

823
00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:33,350
shortly]

824
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:33,368
[Orange county board of

825
00:20:33,368 --> 00:20:33,769
supervisors-

826
00:20:33,769 --> 00:20:35,769
meeting will begin

827
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,374
shortly]

828
00:20:39,374 --> 00:20:39,708
[Orange county board of

829
00:20:39,708 --> 00:20:40,109
supervisors-

830
00:20:40,109 --> 00:20:40,741
meeting will begin

831
00:20:40,741 --> 00:20:41,477
shortly]

832
00:20:41,477 --> 00:20:41,810
[Orange county board of

833
00:20:41,810 --> 00:20:42,211
supervisors-

834
00:20:42,211 --> 00:20:44,211
meeting will begin

835
00:20:44,947 --> 00:20:45,680
shortly]

836
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,140
[Orange county board of

837
00:20:46,140 --> 00:20:46,415
supervisors-

838
00:20:46,415 --> 00:20:48,415
meeting will begin

839
00:20:51,286 --> 00:20:52,200
shortly]

840
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:52,354
[Orange county board of

841
00:20:52,354 --> 00:20:53,210
supervisors-

842
00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:53,388
meeting will begin

843
00:20:53,388 --> 00:20:54,122
shortly]

844
00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:54,456
[Orange county board of

845
00:20:54,456 --> 00:20:54,857
supervisors-

846
00:20:54,857 --> 00:20:56,857
meeting will begin

847
00:20:57,626 --> 00:20:58,360
shortly]

848
00:20:58,360 --> 00:20:58,693
[Orange county board of

849
00:20:58,693 --> 00:20:59,940
supervisors-

850
00:20:59,940 --> 00:21:01,940
meeting will begin

851
00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:04,667
shortly]

852
00:21:04,667 --> 00:21:05,000
[Orange county board of

853
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,400
supervisors-

854
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,350
meeting will begin

855
00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:06,802
shortly]

856
00:21:06,802 --> 00:21:07,135
[Orange county board of

857
00:21:07,135 --> 00:21:07,536
supervisors-

858
00:21:07,536 --> 00:21:09,536
meeting will begin

859
00:21:10,272 --> 00:21:11,600
shortly]

860
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:11,339
[Orange county board of

861
00:21:11,339 --> 00:21:11,740
supervisors-

862
00:21:11,740 --> 00:21:13,740
meeting will begin

863
00:21:16,612 --> 00:21:17,345
shortly]

864
00:21:17,345 --> 00:21:17,680
[Orange county board of

865
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,800
supervisors-

866
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:18,714
meeting will begin

867
00:21:18,714 --> 00:21:19,448
shortly]

868
00:21:19,448 --> 00:21:19,781
[Orange county board of

869
00:21:19,781 --> 00:21:20,182
supervisors-

870
00:21:20,182 --> 00:21:22,182
meeting will begin

871
00:21:22,918 --> 00:21:23,752
shortly]

872
00:21:23,752 --> 00:21:24,860
[Orange county board of

873
00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:24,486
supervisors-

874
00:21:24,486 --> 00:21:26,486
meeting will begin

875
00:21:29,291 --> 00:21:29,992
shortly]

876
00:21:29,992 --> 00:21:30,326
[Orange county board of

877
00:21:30,326 --> 00:21:30,726
supervisors-

878
00:21:30,726 --> 00:21:31,360
meeting will begin

879
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,940
shortly]

880
00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:32,427
[Orange county board of

881
00:21:32,427 --> 00:21:32,828
supervisors-

882
00:21:32,828 --> 00:21:34,828
meeting will begin

883
00:21:35,598 --> 00:21:36,331
shortly]

884
00:21:36,331 --> 00:21:36,665
[Orange county board of

885
00:21:36,665 --> 00:21:37,650
supervisors-

886
00:21:37,650 --> 00:21:39,650
meeting will begin

887
00:21:41,937 --> 00:21:42,638
shortly]

888
00:21:42,638 --> 00:21:42,971
[Orange county board of

889
00:21:42,971 --> 00:21:43,372
supervisors-

890
00:21:43,372 --> 00:21:44,600
meeting will begin

891
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:44,739
shortly]

892
00:21:44,739 --> 00:21:45,740
[Orange county board of

893
00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:45,473
supervisors-

894
00:21:45,473 --> 00:21:47,473
meeting will begin

895
00:21:48,244 --> 00:21:48,978
shortly]

896
00:21:48,978 --> 00:21:49,311
[Orange county board of

897
00:21:49,311 --> 00:21:49,712
supervisors-

898
00:21:49,712 --> 00:21:51,712
meeting will begin

899
00:21:54,582 --> 00:21:55,284
shortly]

900
00:21:55,284 --> 00:21:55,618
[Orange county board of

901
00:21:55,618 --> 00:21:56,180
supervisors-

902
00:21:56,180 --> 00:21:56,686
meeting will begin

903
00:21:56,686 --> 00:21:57,419
shortly]

904
00:21:57,419 --> 00:21:57,753
[Orange county board of

905
00:21:57,753 --> 00:21:58,153
supervisors-

906
00:21:58,153 --> 00:22:00,153
meeting will begin

907
00:22:00,890 --> 00:22:01,623
shortly]

908
00:22:01,623 --> 00:22:01,957
[Orange county board of

909
00:22:01,957 --> 00:22:02,358
supervisors-

910
00:22:02,358 --> 00:22:04,358
meeting will begin

911
00:22:07,262 --> 00:22:07,963
shortly]

912
00:22:07,963 --> 00:22:08,297
[Orange county board of

913
00:22:08,297 --> 00:22:08,697
supervisors-

914
00:22:08,697 --> 00:22:09,331
meeting will begin

915
00:22:09,331 --> 00:22:10,640
shortly]

916
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:10,399
[Orange county board of

917
00:22:10,399 --> 00:22:10,799
supervisors-

918
00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,799
meeting will begin

919
00:22:13,569 --> 00:22:14,302
shortly]

920
00:22:14,302 --> 00:22:14,637
[Orange county board of

921
00:22:14,637 --> 00:22:15,370
supervisors-

922
00:22:15,370 --> 00:22:17,370
meeting will begin

923
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:20,609
shortly]

924
00:22:20,609 --> 00:22:20,943
[Orange county board of

925
00:22:20,943 --> 00:22:21,342
supervisors-

926
00:22:21,342 --> 00:22:21,977
meeting will begin

927
00:22:21,977 --> 00:22:22,711
shortly]

928
00:22:22,711 --> 00:22:23,440
[Orange county board of

929
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:23,812
supervisors-

930
00:22:23,812 --> 00:22:25,812
meeting will begin

931
00:22:26,215 --> 00:22:26,949
shortly]

932
00:22:26,949 --> 00:22:27,283
[Orange county board of

933
00:22:27,283 --> 00:22:27,683
supervisors-

934
00:22:27,683 --> 00:22:29,683
meeting will begin

935
00:22:32,555 --> 00:22:33,255
shortly]

936
00:22:33,255 --> 00:22:33,589
[Orange county board of

937
00:22:33,589 --> 00:22:33,990
supervisors-

938
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:34,657
meeting will begin

939
00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:35,390
shortly]

940
00:22:35,390 --> 00:22:35,725
[Orange county board of

941
00:22:35,725 --> 00:22:36,125
supervisors-

942
00:22:36,125 --> 00:22:38,125
meeting will begin

943
00:22:38,860 --> 00:22:39,595
shortly]

944
00:22:39,595 --> 00:22:39,928
[Orange county board of

945
00:22:39,928 --> 00:22:40,329
supervisors-

946
00:22:40,329 --> 00:22:42,329
meeting will begin

947
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,934
shortly]

948
00:22:45,934 --> 00:22:46,268
[Orange county board of

949
00:22:46,268 --> 00:22:46,669
supervisors-

950
00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:47,302
meeting will begin

951
00:22:47,302 --> 00:22:48,370
shortly]

952
00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:48,370
[Orange county board of

953
00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:48,771
supervisors-

954
00:22:48,771 --> 00:22:50,771
meeting will begin

955
00:22:51,507 --> 00:22:52,274
shortly]

956
00:22:52,274 --> 00:22:52,608
[Orange county board of

957
00:22:52,608 --> 00:22:53,900
supervisors-

958
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:55,900
meeting will begin

959
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,580
shortly]

960
00:22:58,580 --> 00:22:58,915
[Orange county board of

961
00:22:58,915 --> 00:22:59,315
supervisors-

962
00:22:59,315 --> 00:22:59,948
meeting will begin

963
00:22:59,948 --> 00:23:00,682
shortly]

964
00:23:00,682 --> 00:23:01,170
[Orange county board of

965
00:23:01,170 --> 00:23:01,417
supervisors-

966
00:23:01,417 --> 00:23:03,417
meeting will begin

967
00:23:04,186 --> 00:23:04,920
shortly]

968
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,254
[Orange county board of

969
00:23:05,254 --> 00:23:05,655
supervisors-

970
00:23:05,655 --> 00:23:07,655
meeting will begin

971
00:23:10,526 --> 00:23:11,226
shortly]

972
00:23:11,226 --> 00:23:11,560
[Orange county board of

973
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:11,960
supervisors-

974
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,628
meeting will begin

975
00:23:12,628 --> 00:23:13,362
shortly]

976
00:23:13,362 --> 00:23:13,696
[Orange county board of

977
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:14,960
supervisors-

978
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960
meeting will begin

979
00:23:16,832 --> 00:23:17,567
shortly]

980
00:23:17,567 --> 00:23:17,900
[Orange county board of

981
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:18,300
supervisors-

982
00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:20,300
meeting will begin

983
00:23:23,172 --> 00:23:23,905
shortly]

984
00:23:23,905 --> 00:23:24,240
[Orange county board of

985
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,640
supervisors-

986
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,274
meeting will begin

987
00:23:25,274 --> 00:23:26,800
shortly]

988
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:26,341
[Orange county board of

989
00:23:26,341 --> 00:23:26,742
supervisors-

990
00:23:26,742 --> 00:23:28,742
meeting will begin

991
00:23:29,479 --> 00:23:30,212
shortly]

992
00:23:30,212 --> 00:23:30,545
[Orange county board of

993
00:23:30,545 --> 00:23:30,947
supervisors-

994
00:23:30,947 --> 00:23:32,947
meeting will begin

995
00:23:35,818 --> 00:23:36,552
shortly]

996
00:23:36,552 --> 00:23:36,886
[Orange county board of

997
00:23:36,886 --> 00:23:37,286
supervisors-

998
00:23:37,286 --> 00:23:37,920
meeting will begin

999
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,654
shortly]

1000
00:23:38,654 --> 00:23:38,988
[Orange county board of

1001
00:23:38,988 --> 00:23:39,388
supervisors-

1002
00:23:39,388 --> 00:23:41,388
meeting will begin

1003
00:23:42,158 --> 00:23:42,892
shortly]

1004
00:23:42,892 --> 00:23:43,226
[Orange county board of

1005
00:23:43,226 --> 00:23:43,625
supervisors-

1006
00:23:43,625 --> 00:23:45,625
meeting will begin

1007
00:23:48,498 --> 00:23:49,198
shortly]

1008
00:23:49,198 --> 00:23:49,532
[Orange county board of

1009
00:23:49,532 --> 00:23:49,932
supervisors-

1010
00:23:49,932 --> 00:23:50,600
meeting will begin

1011
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,300
shortly]

1012
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:51,634
[Orange county board of

1013
00:23:51,634 --> 00:23:52,340
supervisors-

1014
00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:54,340
meeting will begin

1015
00:23:54,804 --> 00:23:55,538
shortly]

1016
00:23:55,538 --> 00:23:55,872
[Orange county board of

1017
00:23:55,872 --> 00:23:56,272
supervisors-

1018
00:23:56,272 --> 00:23:58,272
meeting will begin

1019
00:24:01,143 --> 00:24:01,944
shortly]

1020
00:24:01,944 --> 00:24:02,278
[Orange county board of

1021
00:24:02,278 --> 00:24:02,679
supervisors-

1022
00:24:02,679 --> 00:24:03,246
meeting will begin

1023
00:24:03,246 --> 00:24:03,980
shortly]

1024
00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:04,313
[Orange county board of

1025
00:24:04,313 --> 00:24:04,713
supervisors-

1026
00:24:04,713 --> 00:24:06,713
meeting will begin

1027
00:24:07,449 --> 00:24:08,184
shortly]

1028
00:24:08,184 --> 00:24:08,517
[Orange county board of

1029
00:24:08,517 --> 00:24:08,918
supervisors-

1030
00:24:08,918 --> 00:24:10,918
meeting will begin

1031
00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:14,524
shortly]

1032
00:24:14,524 --> 00:24:14,857
[Orange county board of

1033
00:24:14,857 --> 00:24:15,258
supervisors-

1034
00:24:15,258 --> 00:24:15,891
meeting will begin

1035
00:24:15,891 --> 00:24:16,626
shortly]

1036
00:24:16,626 --> 00:24:16,959
[Orange county board of

1037
00:24:16,959 --> 00:24:17,360
supervisors-

1038
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,360
meeting will begin

1039
00:24:20,129 --> 00:24:20,862
shortly]

1040
00:24:20,862 --> 00:24:21,197
[Orange county board of

1041
00:24:21,197 --> 00:24:21,597
supervisors-

1042
00:24:21,597 --> 00:24:23,597
meeting will begin

1043
00:24:26,469 --> 00:24:27,170
shortly]

1044
00:24:27,170 --> 00:24:27,502
[Orange county board of

1045
00:24:27,502 --> 00:24:27,903
supervisors-

1046
00:24:27,903 --> 00:24:28,538
meeting will begin

1047
00:24:28,538 --> 00:24:29,272
shortly]

1048
00:24:29,272 --> 00:24:29,606
[Orange county board of

1049
00:24:29,606 --> 00:24:30,600
supervisors-

1050
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,600
meeting will begin

1051
00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:33,509
shortly]

1052
00:24:33,509 --> 00:24:33,843
[Orange county board of

1053
00:24:33,843 --> 00:24:34,244
supervisors-

1054
00:24:34,244 --> 00:24:36,244
meeting will begin

1055
00:24:39,115 --> 00:24:39,816
shortly]

1056
00:24:39,816 --> 00:24:40,149
[Orange county board of

1057
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:40,550
supervisors-

1058
00:24:40,550 --> 00:24:41,217
meeting will begin

1059
00:24:41,217 --> 00:24:41,951
shortly]

1060
00:24:41,951 --> 00:24:42,284
[Orange county board of

1061
00:24:42,284 --> 00:24:42,819
supervisors-

1062
00:24:42,819 --> 00:24:44,819
meeting will begin

1063
00:24:45,421 --> 00:24:46,155
shortly]

1064
00:24:46,155 --> 00:24:46,489
[Orange county board of

1065
00:24:46,489 --> 00:24:46,890
supervisors-

1066
00:24:46,890 --> 00:24:48,890
meeting will begin

1067
00:24:51,761 --> 00:24:52,495
shortly]

1068
00:24:52,495 --> 00:24:52,829
[Orange county board of

1069
00:24:52,829 --> 00:24:53,229
supervisors-

1070
00:24:53,229 --> 00:24:53,862
meeting will begin

1071
00:24:53,862 --> 00:24:54,597
shortly]

1072
00:24:54,597 --> 00:24:54,931
[Orange county board of

1073
00:24:54,931 --> 00:24:55,331
supervisors-

1074
00:24:55,331 --> 00:24:57,331
meeting will begin

1075
00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:58,834
shortly]

1076
00:24:58,834 --> 00:24:59,169
[Orange county board of

1077
00:24:59,169 --> 00:24:59,569
supervisors-

1078
00:24:59,569 --> 00:25:01,569
meeting will begin

1079
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,141
shortly]

1080
00:25:05,141 --> 00:25:05,475
[Orange county board of

1081
00:25:05,475 --> 00:25:05,875
supervisors-

1082
00:25:05,875 --> 00:25:06,509
meeting will begin

1083
00:25:06,509 --> 00:25:07,243
shortly]

1084
00:25:07,243 --> 00:25:07,577
[Orange county board of

1085
00:25:07,577 --> 00:25:07,977
supervisors-

1086
00:25:07,977 --> 00:25:09,977
meeting will begin

1087
00:25:10,746 --> 00:25:11,480
shortly]

1088
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:11,815
[Orange county board of

1089
00:25:11,815 --> 00:25:12,215
supervisors-

1090
00:25:12,215 --> 00:25:14,215
meeting will begin

1091
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:17,786
shortly]

1092
00:25:17,786 --> 00:25:18,120
[Orange county board of

1093
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:18,521
supervisors-

1094
00:25:18,521 --> 00:25:19,188
meeting will begin

1095
00:25:19,188 --> 00:25:19,889
shortly]

1096
00:25:19,889 --> 00:25:20,222
[Orange county board of

1097
00:25:20,222 --> 00:25:20,623
supervisors-

1098
00:25:20,623 --> 00:25:22,623
meeting will begin

1099
00:25:23,392 --> 00:25:24,127
shortly]

1100
00:25:24,127 --> 00:25:24,460
[Orange county board of

1101
00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:24,860
supervisors-

1102
00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:26,860
meeting will begin

1103
00:25:29,732 --> 00:25:30,466
shortly]

1104
00:25:30,466 --> 00:25:30,800
[Orange county board of

1105
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,334
supervisors-

1106
00:25:31,334 --> 00:25:31,901
meeting will begin

1107
00:25:31,901 --> 00:25:32,569
shortly]

1108
00:25:32,569 --> 00:25:32,902
[Orange county board of

1109
00:25:32,902 --> 00:25:33,303
supervisors-

1110
00:25:33,303 --> 00:25:35,303
meeting will begin

1111
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:36,806
shortly]

1112
00:25:36,806 --> 00:25:37,140
[Orange county board of

1113
00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:37,540
supervisors-

1114
00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:39,540
meeting will begin

1115
00:25:42,412 --> 00:25:43,113
shortly]

1116
00:25:43,113 --> 00:25:43,713
[Orange county board of

1117
00:25:43,713 --> 00:25:44,114
supervisors-

1118
00:25:44,114 --> 00:25:44,480
meeting will begin

1119
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,215
shortly]

1120
00:25:45,215 --> 00:25:45,548
[Orange county board of

1121
00:25:45,548 --> 00:25:45,949
supervisors-

1122
00:25:45,949 --> 00:25:47,949
meeting will begin

1123
00:25:48,718 --> 00:25:49,452
shortly]

1124
00:25:49,452 --> 00:25:50,860
[Orange county board of

1125
00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:50,487
supervisors-

1126
00:25:50,487 --> 00:25:52,487
meeting will begin

1127
00:25:55,580 --> 00:25:55,759
shortly]

1128
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:56,920
[Orange county board of

1129
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:56,493
supervisors-

1130
00:25:56,493 --> 00:25:57,127
meeting will begin

1131
00:25:57,127 --> 00:25:57,894
shortly]

1132
00:25:57,894 --> 00:25:58,228
[Orange county board of

1133
00:25:58,228 --> 00:25:58,628
supervisors-

1134
00:25:58,628 --> 00:26:00,628
meeting will begin

1135
00:26:01,364 --> 00:26:02,980
shortly]

1136
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:02,432
[Orange county board of

1137
00:26:02,432 --> 00:26:02,832
supervisors-

1138
00:26:02,832 --> 00:26:04,832
meeting will begin

1139
00:26:07,703 --> 00:26:08,438
shortly]

1140
00:26:08,438 --> 00:26:08,771
[Orange county board of

1141
00:26:08,771 --> 00:26:09,172
supervisors-

1142
00:26:09,172 --> 00:26:09,806
meeting will begin

1143
00:26:09,806 --> 00:26:10,540
shortly]

1144
00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:10,874
[Orange county board of

1145
00:26:10,874 --> 00:26:11,274
supervisors-

1146
00:26:11,274 --> 00:26:13,274
meeting will begin

1147
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:14,778
shortly]

1148
00:26:14,778 --> 00:26:15,111
[Orange county board of

1149
00:26:15,111 --> 00:26:15,511
supervisors-

1150
00:26:15,511 --> 00:26:17,511
meeting will begin

1151
00:26:20,350 --> 00:26:21,840
shortly]

1152
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:21,418
[Orange county board of

1153
00:26:21,418 --> 00:26:21,818
supervisors-

1154
00:26:21,818 --> 00:26:22,452
meeting will begin

1155
00:26:22,452 --> 00:26:23,185
shortly]

1156
00:26:23,185 --> 00:26:23,520
[Orange county board of

1157
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,920
supervisors-

1158
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,920
meeting will begin

1159
00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:27,423
shortly]

1160
00:26:27,423 --> 00:26:27,758
[Orange county board of

1161
00:26:27,758 --> 00:26:28,158
supervisors-

1162
00:26:28,158 --> 00:26:30,158
meeting will begin

1163
00:26:33,290 --> 00:26:33,730
shortly]

1164
00:26:33,730 --> 00:26:34,640
[Orange county board of

1165
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:34,463
supervisors-

1166
00:26:34,463 --> 00:26:35,980
meeting will begin

1167
00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:35,832
shortly]

1168
00:26:35,832 --> 00:26:36,166
[Orange county board of

1169
00:26:36,166 --> 00:26:36,566
supervisors-

1170
00:26:36,566 --> 00:26:38,566
meeting will begin

1171
00:26:39,335 --> 00:26:40,700
shortly]

1172
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:40,404
[Orange county board of

1173
00:26:40,404 --> 00:26:40,804
supervisors-

1174
00:26:40,804 --> 00:26:42,804
meeting will begin

1175
00:26:45,675 --> 00:26:46,410
shortly]

1176
00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:46,742
[Orange county board of

1177
00:26:46,742 --> 00:26:47,143
supervisors-

1178
00:26:47,143 --> 00:26:47,778
meeting will begin

1179
00:26:47,778 --> 00:26:48,512
shortly]

1180
00:26:48,512 --> 00:26:48,845
[Orange county board of

1181
00:26:48,845 --> 00:26:49,245
supervisors-

1182
00:26:49,245 --> 00:26:51,245
meeting will begin

1183
00:26:51,981 --> 00:26:52,749
shortly]

1184
00:26:52,749 --> 00:26:53,820
[Orange county board of

1185
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:53,483
supervisors-

1186
00:26:53,483 --> 00:26:55,483
meeting will begin

1187
00:26:58,355 --> 00:26:59,560
shortly]

1188
00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:59,389
[Orange county board of

1189
00:26:59,389 --> 00:26:59,790
supervisors-

1190
00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:00,423
meeting will begin

1191
00:27:00,423 --> 00:27:01,158
shortly]

1192
00:27:01,158 --> 00:27:01,491
[Orange county board of

1193
00:27:01,491 --> 00:27:01,891
supervisors-

1194
00:27:01,891 --> 00:27:03,891
meeting will begin

1195
00:27:04,661 --> 00:27:05,395
shortly]

1196
00:27:05,395 --> 00:27:05,728
[Orange county board of

1197
00:27:05,728 --> 00:27:06,129
supervisors-

1198
00:27:06,129 --> 00:27:08,129
meeting will begin

1199
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,701
shortly]

1200
00:27:11,701 --> 00:27:12,350
[Orange county board of

1201
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:12,435
supervisors-

1202
00:27:12,435 --> 00:27:13,700
meeting will begin

1203
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:13,804
shortly]

1204
00:27:13,804 --> 00:27:14,137
[Orange county board of

1205
00:27:14,137 --> 00:27:14,538
supervisors-

1206
00:27:14,538 --> 00:27:16,538
meeting will begin

1207
00:27:17,307 --> 00:27:18,410
shortly]

1208
00:27:18,410 --> 00:27:18,375
[Orange county board of

1209
00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:18,775
supervisors-

1210
00:27:18,775 --> 00:27:20,775
meeting will begin

1211
00:27:23,647 --> 00:27:24,347
shortly]

1212
00:27:24,347 --> 00:27:24,681
[Orange county board of

1213
00:27:24,681 --> 00:27:25,820
supervisors-

1214
00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:25,748
meeting will begin

1215
00:27:25,748 --> 00:27:26,482
shortly]

1216
00:27:26,482 --> 00:27:26,817
[Orange county board of

1217
00:27:26,817 --> 00:27:27,217
supervisors-

1218
00:27:27,217 --> 00:27:29,217
meeting will begin

1219
00:27:29,953 --> 00:27:30,687
shortly]

1220
00:27:30,687 --> 00:27:31,200
[Orange county board of

1221
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,421
supervisors-

1222
00:27:31,421 --> 00:27:33,421
meeting will begin

1223
00:27:36,593 --> 00:27:37,227
shortly]

1224
00:27:37,227 --> 00:27:37,560
[Orange county board of

1225
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:37,961
supervisors-

1226
00:27:37,961 --> 00:27:38,395
meeting will begin

1227
00:27:38,395 --> 00:27:39,129
shortly]

1228
00:27:39,129 --> 00:27:39,462
[Orange county board of

1229
00:27:39,462 --> 00:27:39,862
supervisors-

1230
00:27:39,862 --> 00:27:41,862
meeting will begin

1231
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:43,367
shortly]

1232
00:27:43,367 --> 00:27:43,700
[Orange county board of

1233
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:44,100
supervisors-

1234
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,100
meeting will begin

1235
00:27:48,972 --> 00:27:49,673
shortly]

1236
00:27:49,673 --> 00:27:50,700
[Orange county board of

1237
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:50,407
supervisors-

1238
00:27:50,407 --> 00:27:51,410
meeting will begin

1239
00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:51,775
shortly]

1240
00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:52,109
[Orange county board of

1241
00:27:52,109 --> 00:27:52,509
supervisors-

1242
00:27:52,509 --> 00:27:54,509
meeting will begin

1243
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:56,130
shortly]

1244
00:27:56,130 --> 00:27:56,345
[Orange county board of

1245
00:27:56,345 --> 00:27:56,747
supervisors-

1246
00:27:56,747 --> 00:27:58,747
meeting will begin

1247
00:28:01,618 --> 00:28:02,319
shortly]

1248
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:02,653
[Orange county board of

1249
00:28:02,653 --> 00:28:03,530
supervisors-

1250
00:28:03,530 --> 00:28:03,720
meeting will begin

1251
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,455
shortly]

1252
00:28:04,455 --> 00:28:04,788
[Orange county board of

1253
00:28:04,788 --> 00:28:05,189
supervisors-

1254
00:28:05,189 --> 00:28:07,189
meeting will begin

1255
00:28:07,925 --> 00:28:08,659
shortly]

1256
00:28:08,659 --> 00:28:08,992
[Orange county board of

1257
00:28:08,992 --> 00:28:09,393
supervisors-

1258
00:28:09,393 --> 00:28:11,393
meeting will begin

1259
00:28:14,263 --> 00:28:14,998
shortly]

1260
00:28:14,998 --> 00:28:15,332
[Orange county board of

1261
00:28:15,332 --> 00:28:15,732
supervisors-

1262
00:28:15,732 --> 00:28:16,367
meeting will begin

1263
00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:17,100
shortly]

1264
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:17,433
[Orange county board of

1265
00:28:17,433 --> 00:28:17,834
supervisors-

1266
00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:19,834
meeting will begin

1267
00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:21,304
shortly]

1268
00:28:21,304 --> 00:28:21,638
[Orange county board of

1269
00:28:21,638 --> 00:28:22,390
supervisors-

1270
00:28:22,390 --> 00:28:24,390
meeting will begin

1271
00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:27,644
shortly]

1272
00:28:27,644 --> 00:28:27,978
[Orange county board of

1273
00:28:27,978 --> 00:28:28,379
supervisors-

1274
00:28:28,379 --> 00:28:29,130
meeting will begin

1275
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:29,747
shortly]

1276
00:28:29,747 --> 00:28:30,800
[Orange county board of

1277
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:30,480
supervisors-

1278
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,480
meeting will begin

1279
00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:33,983
shortly]

1280
00:28:33,983 --> 00:28:34,318
[Orange county board of

1281
00:28:34,318 --> 00:28:34,718
supervisors-

1282
00:28:34,718 --> 00:28:36,718
meeting will begin

1283
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:40,291
shortly]

1284
00:28:40,291 --> 00:28:40,623
[Orange county board of

1285
00:28:40,623 --> 00:28:41,240
supervisors-

1286
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,692
meeting will begin

1287
00:28:41,692 --> 00:28:42,425
shortly]

1288
00:28:42,425 --> 00:28:42,760
[Orange county board of

1289
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,160
supervisors-

1290
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,160
meeting will begin

1291
00:28:45,896 --> 00:28:46,630
shortly]

1292
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:46,964
[Orange county board of

1293
00:28:46,964 --> 00:28:47,364
supervisors-

1294
00:28:47,364 --> 00:28:49,364
meeting will begin

1295
00:28:52,236 --> 00:28:52,970
shortly]

1296
00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:53,303
[Orange county board of

1297
00:28:53,303 --> 00:28:53,704
supervisors-

1298
00:28:53,704 --> 00:28:54,338
meeting will begin

1299
00:28:54,338 --> 00:28:55,720
shortly]

1300
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:55,406
[Orange county board of

1301
00:28:55,406 --> 00:28:55,806
supervisors-

1302
00:28:55,806 --> 00:28:57,806
meeting will begin

1303
00:28:58,542 --> 00:28:59,276
shortly]

1304
00:28:59,276 --> 00:28:59,610
[Orange county board of

1305
00:28:59,610 --> 00:29:00,100
supervisors-

1306
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,100
meeting will begin

1307
00:29:04,882 --> 00:29:05,615
shortly]

1308
00:29:05,615 --> 00:29:05,950
[Orange county board of

1309
00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:06,350
supervisors-

1310
00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:06,983
meeting will begin

1311
00:29:06,983 --> 00:29:07,718
shortly]

1312
00:29:07,718 --> 00:29:08,510
[Orange county board of

1313
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:08,451
supervisors-

1314
00:29:08,451 --> 00:29:10,451
meeting will begin

1315
00:29:11,221 --> 00:29:11,956
shortly]

1316
00:29:11,956 --> 00:29:12,289
[Orange county board of

1317
00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:12,690
supervisors-

1318
00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:14,690
meeting will begin

1319
00:29:17,561 --> 00:29:18,261
shortly]

1320
00:29:18,261 --> 00:29:18,596
[Orange county board of

1321
00:29:18,596 --> 00:29:18,996
supervisors-

1322
00:29:18,996 --> 00:29:19,630
meeting will begin

1323
00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:20,397
shortly]

1324
00:29:20,397 --> 00:29:20,731
[Orange county board of

1325
00:29:20,731 --> 00:29:21,131
supervisors-

1326
00:29:21,131 --> 00:29:23,131
meeting will begin

1327
00:29:23,868 --> 00:29:24,602
shortly]

1328
00:29:24,602 --> 00:29:24,935
[Orange county board of

1329
00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:25,336
supervisors-

1330
00:29:25,336 --> 00:29:27,336
meeting will begin

1331
00:29:30,207 --> 00:29:30,941
shortly]

1332
00:29:30,941 --> 00:29:31,275
[Orange county board of

1333
00:29:31,275 --> 00:29:31,675
supervisors-

1334
00:29:31,675 --> 00:29:32,309
meeting will begin

1335
00:29:32,309 --> 00:29:33,430
shortly]

1336
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:33,377
[Orange county board of

1337
00:29:33,377 --> 00:29:33,778
supervisors-

1338
00:29:33,778 --> 00:29:35,778
meeting will begin

1339
00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:37,281
shortly]

1340
00:29:37,281 --> 00:29:37,615
[Orange county board of

1341
00:29:37,615 --> 00:29:38,140
supervisors-

1342
00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:40,140
meeting will begin

1343
00:29:42,853 --> 00:29:43,586
shortly]

1344
00:29:43,586 --> 00:29:43,921
[Orange county board of

1345
00:29:43,921 --> 00:29:44,321
supervisors-

1346
00:29:44,321 --> 00:29:44,955
meeting will begin

1347
00:29:44,955 --> 00:29:45,690
shortly]

1348
00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:46,220
[Orange county board of

1349
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:46,423
supervisors-

1350
00:29:46,423 --> 00:29:48,423
meeting will begin

1351
00:29:49,193 --> 00:29:49,927
shortly]

1352
00:29:49,927 --> 00:29:50,260
[Orange county board of

1353
00:29:50,260 --> 00:29:50,661
supervisors-

1354
00:29:50,661 --> 00:29:52,661
meeting will begin

1355
00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:56,233
shortly]

1356
00:29:56,233 --> 00:29:56,567
[Orange county board of

1357
00:29:56,567 --> 00:29:56,967
supervisors-

1358
00:29:56,967 --> 00:29:57,601
meeting will begin

1359
00:29:57,601 --> 00:29:58,336
shortly]

1360
00:29:58,336 --> 00:29:58,669
[Orange county board of

1361
00:29:58,669 --> 00:29:59,700
supervisors-

1362
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:01,700
meeting will begin

1363
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:02,573
shortly]

1364
00:30:02,573 --> 00:30:02,906
[Orange county board of

1365
00:30:02,906 --> 00:30:03,307
supervisors-

1366
00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:05,307
meeting will begin

1367
00:30:08,179 --> 00:30:08,879
shortly]

1368
00:30:08,879 --> 00:30:09,213
[Orange county board of

1369
00:30:09,213 --> 00:30:09,614
supervisors-

1370
00:30:09,614 --> 00:30:10,280
meeting will begin

1371
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,150
shortly]

1372
00:30:11,150 --> 00:30:11,349
[Orange county board of

1373
00:30:11,349 --> 00:30:11,749
supervisors-

1374
00:30:11,749 --> 00:30:13,749
meeting will begin

1375
00:30:14,485 --> 00:30:15,253
shortly]

1376
00:30:15,253 --> 00:30:15,585
[Orange county board of

1377
00:30:15,585 --> 00:30:15,986
supervisors-

1378
00:30:15,986 --> 00:30:17,986
meeting will begin

1379
00:30:20,824 --> 00:30:21,559
shortly]

1380
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:21,892
[Orange county board of

1381
00:30:21,892 --> 00:30:22,293
supervisors-

1382
00:30:22,293 --> 00:30:22,927
meeting will begin

1383
00:30:22,927 --> 00:30:23,661
shortly]

1384
00:30:23,661 --> 00:30:23,995
[Orange county board of

1385
00:30:23,995 --> 00:30:24,395
supervisors-

1386
00:30:24,395 --> 00:30:26,395
meeting will begin

1387
00:30:27,131 --> 00:30:27,898
shortly]

1388
00:30:27,898 --> 00:30:28,232
[Orange county board of

1389
00:30:28,232 --> 00:30:28,633
supervisors-

1390
00:30:28,633 --> 00:30:30,633
meeting will begin

1391
00:30:33,503 --> 00:30:34,204
shortly]

1392
00:30:34,204 --> 00:30:34,538
[Orange county board of

1393
00:30:34,538 --> 00:30:34,938
supervisors-

1394
00:30:34,938 --> 00:30:35,573
meeting will begin

1395
00:30:35,573 --> 00:30:36,307
shortly]

1396
00:30:36,307 --> 00:30:36,640
[Orange county board of

1397
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,410
supervisors-

1398
00:30:37,410 --> 00:30:39,410
meeting will begin

1399
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:40,544
shortly]

1400
00:30:40,544 --> 00:30:40,878
[Orange county board of

1401
00:30:40,878 --> 00:30:41,279
supervisors-

1402
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,279
meeting will begin

1403
00:30:46,150 --> 00:30:46,850
shortly]

1404
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:47,184
[Orange county board of

1405
00:30:47,184 --> 00:30:47,584
supervisors-

1406
00:30:47,584 --> 00:30:48,252
meeting will begin

1407
00:30:48,252 --> 00:30:48,985
shortly]

1408
00:30:48,985 --> 00:30:49,320
[Orange county board of

1409
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,720
supervisors-

1410
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,720
meeting will begin

1411
00:30:52,456 --> 00:30:53,190
shortly]

1412
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:53,524
[Orange county board of

1413
00:30:53,524 --> 00:30:53,924
supervisors-

1414
00:30:53,924 --> 00:30:55,924
meeting will begin

1415
00:30:58,796 --> 00:30:59,530
shortly]

1416
00:30:59,530 --> 00:30:59,863
[Orange county board of

1417
00:30:59,863 --> 00:31:00,263
supervisors-

1418
00:31:00,263 --> 00:31:00,898
meeting will begin

1419
00:31:00,898 --> 00:31:01,632
shortly]

1420
00:31:01,632 --> 00:31:01,965
[Orange county board of

1421
00:31:01,965 --> 00:31:02,367
supervisors-

1422
00:31:02,367 --> 00:31:04,367
meeting will begin

1423
00:31:05,102 --> 00:31:05,870
shortly]

1424
00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:06,204
[Orange county board of

1425
00:31:06,204 --> 00:31:06,604
supervisors-

1426
00:31:06,604 --> 00:31:08,604
meeting will begin

1427
00:31:11,476 --> 00:31:12,176
shortly]

1428
00:31:12,176 --> 00:31:12,510
[Orange county board of

1429
00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:12,910
supervisors-

1430
00:31:12,910 --> 00:31:13,543
meeting will begin

1431
00:31:13,543 --> 00:31:14,445
shortly]

1432
00:31:14,445 --> 00:31:14,779
[Orange county board of good morning,

1433
00:31:14,779 --> 00:31:15,313
supervisors-

1434
00:31:15,313 --> 00:31:16,513
meeting will begin everyone

1435
00:31:16,513 --> 00:31:19,513
shortly]. I'd like to welcome

1436
00:31:20,818 --> 00:31:22,220
you to this

1437
00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:22,820
>>speaker: good morning,

1438
00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:25,456
everyone. I'd like to welcome

1439
00:31:25,456 --> 00:31:27,758
you to this meeting FEBRUARY 24,

1440
00:31:27,758 --> 00:31:29,758
2026. Today the invocations

1441
00:31:30,761 --> 00:31:31,796
will be offered by vice-chair

1442
00:31:31,796 --> 00:31:33,397
foley and pledge of allegiance

1443
00:31:33,397 --> 00:31:36,397
led by supervisor nguyen. If

1444
00:31:41,573 --> 00:31:43,740
you're able, please stand.

1445
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:44,509
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: join

1446
00:31:44,509 --> 00:31:45,910
me today to pause for a moment

1447
00:31:45,910 --> 00:31:47,311
reflection before we begin the

1448
00:31:47,311 --> 00:31:48,446
work on behalf of our orange

1449
00:31:48,446 --> 00:31:49,947
county community. We join

1450
00:31:49,947 --> 00:31:51,649
together here with the shared

1451
00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:54,490
responsibility to serve every

1452
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,289
constituent of our community

1453
00:31:58,289 --> 00:31:59,223
with speaking with grill and

1454
00:31:59,223 --> 00:32:00,724
purpose and moments when

1455
00:32:00,724 --> 00:32:01,559
disagreements grow MAY we

1456
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,194
remember that public service

1457
00:32:03,194 --> 00:32:05,863
calls us to rise above division.

1458
00:32:05,863 --> 00:32:07,664
Let us all work harder and with

1459
00:32:07,664 --> 00:32:10,640
more intention to choose

1460
00:32:10,668 --> 00:32:12,302
collaboration over conflict and

1461
00:32:12,302 --> 00:32:14,405
solutions over spectacle. As

1462
00:32:14,405 --> 00:32:15,340
leaders we also have a duty to

1463
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:17,342
protect and support the county

1464
00:32:17,342 --> 00:32:20,712
staff who carry out this work

1465
00:32:20,712 --> 00:32:23,481
for us every day. They look to

1466
00:32:23,481 --> 00:32:24,115
us for steadiness,

1467
00:32:24,115 --> 00:32:26,317
accountability and example. Our

1468
00:32:26,317 --> 00:32:28,186
conduct sets the tone. Ideally

1469
00:32:28,186 --> 00:32:30,421
we lead them and they help us

1470
00:32:30,421 --> 00:32:31,956
improve our county government by

1471
00:32:31,956 --> 00:32:34,259
trusting their commitment to

1472
00:32:34,259 --> 00:32:35,560
provide quality services and set

1473
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,495
high standards for performance

1474
00:32:37,495 --> 00:32:39,197
and delivery of services. MAY

1475
00:32:39,197 --> 00:32:41,199
we remember that this work is

1476
00:32:41,199 --> 00:32:45,102
not about any one of us, it is

1477
00:32:45,102 --> 00:32:46,671
about all of us. We MAY not

1478
00:32:46,671 --> 00:32:48,974
always agree but we MAY disagree

1479
00:32:48,974 --> 00:32:49,907
with respect, work harder to

1480
00:32:49,907 --> 00:32:51,907
challenge ideas without

1481
00:32:52,810 --> 00:32:54,212
degrading one another and remain

1482
00:32:54,212 --> 00:32:56,212
productive rather than

1483
00:32:56,715 --> 00:32:58,850
interactive, when we falter or

1484
00:32:58,850 --> 00:33:01,860
slip up, MAY we also forgive and

1485
00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:01,620
commit to picking up another

1486
00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:04,289
plank to keep building the

1487
00:33:04,289 --> 00:33:05,123
bridges that keep us connected.

1488
00:33:05,123 --> 00:33:06,991
Our community benefits when we

1489
00:33:06,991 --> 00:33:09,260
build bridges, not barriers.

1490
00:33:09,260 --> 00:33:12,626
And when we focus on helping

1491
00:33:13,264 --> 00:33:16,864
lift up all segments of our

1492
00:33:17,401 --> 00:33:19,270
community.. As we watch bombs

1493
00:33:19,270 --> 00:33:21,806
bursting, builds blow up and

1494
00:33:21,806 --> 00:33:22,607
other chaos in other countries

1495
00:33:22,607 --> 00:33:24,175
and communities, let us

1496
00:33:24,175 --> 00:33:25,100
recognize the privilege we share

1497
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,811
to live and serve here and the

1498
00:33:26,811 --> 00:33:28,647
duty to move forward together

1499
00:33:28,647 --> 00:33:30,482
for the entire county to protect

1500
00:33:30,482 --> 00:33:32,830
this paradise we call home. I

1501
00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:32,784
look forward a protective

1502
00:33:32,784 --> 00:33:35,784
meeting with you all. Thank

1503
00:33:35,986 --> 00:33:39,586
you. Please join me in the

1504
00:33:42,127 --> 00:33:43,610
pledge of allegiance.

1505
00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:44,610
I pledge allegiance to my flag

1506
00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:45,620
to the united states of america

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and to the republic for which it

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00:33:46,264 --> 00:33:47,164
stands, one nation, under GOD,

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00:33:47,164 --> 00:33:49,564
indivisible, with liberty and

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00:33:57,275 --> 00:33:58,777
justice for all.

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>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

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00:34:04,782 --> 00:34:06,451
supervisors foley and nguyen. A

1513
00:34:06,451 --> 00:34:08,153
couple of reminders for today's

1514
00:34:08,153 --> 00:34:09,354
meeting, please use the main

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00:34:09,354 --> 00:34:10,956
entrance when entering and

1516
00:34:10,956 --> 00:34:13,291
leaving the room. All the other

1517
00:34:13,291 --> 00:34:16,291
doors are alarmed and for

1518
00:34:19,531 --> 00:34:22,531
emergency exit only. Please set

1519
00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:24,302
all cell phones to "mute" or

1520
00:34:24,302 --> 00:34:25,300
vibrate at this time for the

1521
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:26,571
duration of the meeting. A list

1522
00:34:26,571 --> 00:34:29,507
of changes to today's agenda

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00:34:29,507 --> 00:34:31,710
along with the agenda requests

1524
00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:33,678
to speak are locate in the lobby

1525
00:34:33,678 --> 00:34:34,880
outside the boardroom. We'll be

1526
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,347
breaking for lunch around the

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00:34:36,347 --> 00:34:39,284
noon hour during which time

1528
00:34:39,284 --> 00:34:40,285
we'll also recess to closed

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00:34:40,285 --> 00:34:42,285
sessions.

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00:34:43,922 --> 00:34:45,357
Feed the parking validation for

1531
00:34:45,357 --> 00:34:47,125
the p4 parking lot, please see

1532
00:34:47,125 --> 00:34:48,626
the deputy clerk next to the

1533
00:34:48,626 --> 00:34:51,620
podium and you'll see a parking

1534
00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:52,564
validation card. We now will

1535
00:34:52,564 --> 00:34:54,966
proceed to the agenda for this

1536
00:34:54,966 --> 00:34:57,169
morning's meeting. This agenda

1537
00:34:57,169 --> 00:34:59,904
contains a brief description of

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00:34:59,904 --> 00:35:01,673
each item to be considered

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00:35:01,673 --> 00:35:04,843
except as provided by law, no

1540
00:35:04,843 --> 00:35:06,411
action maybe taken to any item

1541
00:35:06,411 --> 00:35:08,380
not appearing in today's agenda.

1542
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:09,982
The agenda is divide into

1543
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,618
sections, all matters on the

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00:35:12,618 --> 00:35:14,585
scent calendar are proved by --

1545
00:35:14,585 --> 00:35:16,822
a -- on the consent calendar are

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00:35:16,822 --> 00:35:19,158
approved by one motion, a board

1547
00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:20,692
member or member of the public

1548
00:35:20,692 --> 00:35:21,826
MAY have a separate action on a

1549
00:35:21,826 --> 00:35:23,896
specific item. If you wish to

1550
00:35:23,896 --> 00:35:26,231
address the board, please

1551
00:35:26,231 --> 00:35:28,334
complete a speaker request form.

1552
00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:30,169
To be heard on a consent

1553
00:35:30,169 --> 00:35:31,670
calendar item, the completed

1554
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:32,604
form must be deposited in the

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00:35:32,604 --> 00:35:33,772
box next to the podium prior to

1556
00:35:33,772 --> 00:35:35,674
the beginning of the consent

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00:35:35,674 --> 00:35:38,610
calendar. As to all other items

1558
00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:39,511
to ensure smooth conduct in

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00:35:39,511 --> 00:35:41,447
meetings, speaker requests must

1560
00:35:41,447 --> 00:35:43,248
be turned in prior to the

1561
00:35:43,248 --> 00:35:46,248
reading of an individual item,

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00:35:46,785 --> 00:35:48,353
including public comments.

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00:35:48,353 --> 00:35:50,689
Speakers MAY address the board

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00:35:50,689 --> 00:35:51,724
up to three occasions for three

1565
00:35:51,724 --> 00:35:53,926
minutes allotted to the speaker

1566
00:35:53,926 --> 00:35:55,461
per occasion. When you're

1567
00:35:55,461 --> 00:35:57,529
called to special please step to

1568
00:35:57,529 --> 00:35:59,198
the podium, we request that you

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00:35:59,198 --> 00:36:00,640
state your name and city of

1570
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,567
residence for the record.

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00:36:01,567 --> 00:36:02,568
Please note the light on the

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00:36:02,568 --> 00:36:04,469
podium. The green light means

1573
00:36:04,469 --> 00:36:06,805
you have three minutes. The

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00:36:06,805 --> 00:36:08,607
light changes to yellow when you

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00:36:08,607 --> 00:36:10,750
have 1 minute. The light turns

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00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:11,610
to red when your time has

1577
00:36:11,610 --> 00:36:13,545
expired. We ask that you

1578
00:36:13,545 --> 00:36:15,280
observe the time limit so that

1579
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,582
all who wish to speak will have

1580
00:36:16,582 --> 00:36:18,383
an opportunity do so.

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00:36:18,383 --> 00:36:21,320
Addressing the board, we address

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,520
the board as a whole through the

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00:36:36,602 --> 00:36:37,203
chair.. We're moving to -- I'm

1584
00:36:37,203 --> 00:36:39,380
changing this around a little

1585
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:41,207
built. Normally we have board

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00:36:41,207 --> 00:36:42,875
comments that the time. I'm

1587
00:36:42,875 --> 00:36:45,978
going to move that to the end of

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00:36:45,978 --> 00:36:48,113
the meeting instead. And so now

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00:36:48,113 --> 00:36:49,115
we'll move to our agenda items.

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00:36:49,115 --> 00:36:52,918
I ask the clerk to identify any

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00:36:52,918 --> 00:36:54,530
changes to the agenda, any

1592
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:55,354
requests received from the

1593
00:36:55,354 --> 00:36:56,922
public to pull an item from the

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00:36:56,922 --> 00:36:59,125
consent calendar for separate

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00:36:59,125 --> 00:37:01,125
consideration. MADAM Clerk.

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00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:03,729
>>clerk, robin stieler: on

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00:37:03,729 --> 00:37:06,640
discussion calendar, item 22 has

1598
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,400
been deleted. And closed

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00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,670
sessions cs-1 has also been

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00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:10,703
deleted. The public has

1601
00:37:10,703 --> 00:37:13,703
requested to pull item 4 from

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00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:18,244
the consent calendar.

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00:37:18,244 --> 00:37:20,613
>>chair, doug chaffee: I would

1604
00:37:20,613 --> 00:37:22,480
like to move item, I believe,

1605
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,849
it's 28, to be heard after item

1606
00:37:23,849 --> 00:37:26,849
17 since item 18 can be directed

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00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,560
by that item. That's the board

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00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,160
procurement item.

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00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,363
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: did

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00:37:37,363 --> 00:37:37,630
you say 22, grants committee

1611
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:39,630
report --

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00:37:39,664 --> 00:37:39,933
>>chair, doug chaffee: no. I

1613
00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:41,933
meant 28.

1614
00:37:42,835 --> 00:37:45,235
>>clerk, robin stieler: 22 was

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00:37:45,271 --> 00:37:46,710
deleted. Excuse me. 23. 23.

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00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:47,540
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

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00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:50,540
I thought so. Thank you.

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00:37:57,116 --> 00:37:58,718
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

1619
00:37:58,718 --> 00:38:00,253
I'd ask my colleague if there

1620
00:38:00,253 --> 00:38:01,154
are any items you'd like to hear

1621
00:38:01,154 --> 00:38:03,554
separately on the consent

1622
00:38:03,689 --> 00:38:05,725
calendar. We have requests from

1623
00:38:05,725 --> 00:38:06,559
the public that item 4 be heard

1624
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:07,527
separately. Except for, that

1625
00:38:07,527 --> 00:38:09,529
MAY I have a motion --

1626
00:38:09,529 --> 00:38:10,263
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

1627
00:38:10,263 --> 00:38:11,931
the balance.

1628
00:38:11,931 --> 00:38:12,464
>>don wagner: second.

1629
00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:13,432
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

1630
00:38:13,432 --> 00:38:15,432
objection? Seeing none,

1631
00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:18,137
carried. Item 4.

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00:38:18,137 --> 00:38:18,904
>>clerk, robin stieler: 4.

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00:38:18,904 --> 00:38:19,872
Under oc community resources,

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00:38:19,872 --> 00:38:20,673
Approve master agreement for oc

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00:38:20,673 --> 00:38:21,440
Animal Care services, 6/1/26-

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00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,175
5/31/31; authorize Director

1637
00:38:22,175 --> 00:38:22,875
or designee to execute

1638
00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:23,709
individual agreements, make

1639
00:38:23,709 --> 00:38:26,109
minor changes and renew

1640
00:38:26,312 --> 00:38:28,114
agreements under certain conditions.

1641
00:38:28,114 --> 00:38:30,917
And we have one requests to

1642
00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:31,517
speak on agenda item 4.

1643
00:38:31,517 --> 00:38:32,170
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

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00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:34,170
call the speaker.

1645
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:35,787
>>clerk, robin stieler: michael

1646
00:38:35,787 --> 00:38:37,123
m.

1647
00:38:37,123 --> 00:38:38,791
>>speaker: thank you. Michael m

1648
00:38:38,791 --> 00:38:41,127
from irvine. In the last year,

1649
00:38:41,127 --> 00:38:44,127
the animal shelter has made

1650
00:38:44,330 --> 00:38:46,730
significant strides, thanks to

1651
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,604
this board. I am grateful to

1652
00:38:51,604 --> 00:38:52,672
those who led these positive

1653
00:38:52,672 --> 00:38:55,441
changes and as a proud resident

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00:38:55,441 --> 00:38:56,643
of the third district also to

1655
00:38:56,643 --> 00:38:57,743
supervisor wagner for his

1656
00:38:57,743 --> 00:38:59,245
support. To sustain the

1657
00:38:59,245 --> 00:39:01,480
progress we need to follow up on

1658
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,880
the shelter's strategic plan,

1659
00:39:05,685 --> 00:39:07,253
which defines how the board, its

1660
00:39:07,253 --> 00:39:10,253
cities and community expect the

1661
00:39:11,570 --> 00:39:12,959
shelter to operate. We as a

1662
00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:13,993
county spent thousands of hours

1663
00:39:13,993 --> 00:39:15,528
and hundreds of thousands of

1664
00:39:15,528 --> 00:39:17,597
dollars to put this plan

1665
00:39:17,597 --> 00:39:18,398
together. The board voted for

1666
00:39:18,398 --> 00:39:19,231
the strategic plan as the

1667
00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:21,330
blueprint for shelter

1668
00:39:21,330 --> 00:39:23,936
operations. I urge the board

1669
00:39:23,936 --> 00:39:24,870
and the animal shelter to follow

1670
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:27,240
up on last year's improvements

1671
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,377
and put the shelter on a good

1672
00:39:30,377 --> 00:39:31,778
path that fixes persisting

1673
00:39:31,778 --> 00:39:33,778
promise and prevents

1674
00:39:35,448 --> 00:39:36,820
backsliding. The plan there, we

1675
00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:38,482
just need work on

1676
00:39:38,551 --> 00:39:39,485
implementation. Thank you.

1677
00:39:39,485 --> 00:39:40,920
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

1678
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,387
for your comments. Back to the

1679
00:39:42,387 --> 00:39:42,722
board for consideration. Do we

1680
00:39:42,722 --> 00:39:43,923
have a motion.

1681
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>>janet nguyen: I'll move it

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00:39:45,725 --> 00:39:47,594
with comments, MR. CHAIRMAN.

1683
00:39:47,594 --> 00:39:47,827
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

1684
00:39:47,827 --> 00:39:48,627
second.

1685
00:39:48,627 --> 00:39:50,290
>>chair, doug chaffee: please go

1686
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:51,631
ahead, prfers nguyen.

1687
00:39:51,631 --> 00:39:54,701
>>janet nguyen: I just want to

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00:39:54,701 --> 00:39:57,701
first thank monica, dillon and

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00:39:57,770 --> 00:40:00,906
the oc animal staff for putting

1690
00:40:00,906 --> 00:40:02,242
these contracts together.

1691
00:40:02,242 --> 00:40:04,743
Really thankful that there's no

1692
00:40:04,743 --> 00:40:06,460
increase in our rates as well,

1693
00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:08,347
because, you know, it's a tough

1694
00:40:08,347 --> 00:40:09,949
time for cities and -- but, yet,

1695
00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:10,783
you know, we are still providing

1696
00:40:10,783 --> 00:40:13,783
the services and making sure

1697
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,622
that these contracts -- well,

1698
00:40:15,622 --> 00:40:16,923
making sure that we don't

1699
00:40:16,923 --> 00:40:19,923
increase the rates for the

1700
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,927
cities. And so I appreciate all

1701
00:40:20,927 --> 00:40:22,762
that they've done. And I agree

1702
00:40:22,762 --> 00:40:24,463
with our speakers that, you

1703
00:40:24,463 --> 00:40:27,463
know, oc animal has made

1704
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:29,769
significant changes last year,

1705
00:40:29,769 --> 00:40:31,537
you know, so please know that we

1706
00:40:31,537 --> 00:40:34,537
appreciate you, but there is

1707
00:40:34,707 --> 00:40:36,142
still some work to be done. And

1708
00:40:36,142 --> 00:40:38,378
I -- you know, I know that

1709
00:40:38,378 --> 00:40:41,378
you're working on a strategic

1710
00:40:41,515 --> 00:40:44,618
plan. Staff has told my office

1711
00:40:44,618 --> 00:40:47,554
that you're compiling a report

1712
00:40:47,554 --> 00:40:49,156
to, you know -- on the 2018

1713
00:40:49,156 --> 00:40:51,491
strategic plan that would be

1714
00:40:51,491 --> 00:40:52,359
coming to the board. I'm hoping

1715
00:40:52,359 --> 00:40:53,927
maybe if you can give us a

1716
00:40:53,927 --> 00:40:57,527
report in the next 30 days on

1717
00:40:59,999 --> 00:41:03,300
where you're at with that and

1718
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:04,270
when we will see it moving

1719
00:41:04,270 --> 00:41:05,906
forward, whether it's a board

1720
00:41:05,906 --> 00:41:08,107
hearing, then we will accept

1721
00:41:08,107 --> 00:41:09,909
your report or a report to the

1722
00:41:09,909 --> 00:41:11,378
board itself. So again, I'm

1723
00:41:11,378 --> 00:41:13,746
excited to support this item and

1724
00:41:13,746 --> 00:41:16,746
looking forward to more great

1725
00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:19,585
things and collaboration with oc

1726
00:41:19,585 --> 00:41:19,753
animal in the community. Thank

1727
00:41:19,753 --> 00:41:20,854
you.

1728
00:41:20,854 --> 00:41:23,254
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1729
00:41:23,423 --> 00:41:23,890
you, supervisor nguyen.

1730
00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:24,558
Supervisor sarmiento.

1731
00:41:24,558 --> 00:41:25,192
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

1732
00:41:25,192 --> 00:41:27,928
MR. Chair, and thank you to the

1733
00:41:27,928 --> 00:41:28,528
speaker for his comments. I

1734
00:41:28,528 --> 00:41:30,430
certainly appreciate and agree

1735
00:41:30,430 --> 00:41:34,300
with them, and I want to

1736
00:41:35,702 --> 00:41:36,303
actually also thank the

1737
00:41:36,303 --> 00:41:38,138
community members that helped

1738
00:41:38,138 --> 00:41:39,600
influence the changes that were

1739
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,340
made since, you know, I've been

1740
00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:42,843
on this board and thank the

1741
00:41:42,843 --> 00:41:44,711
staff at animal care, dillon and

1742
00:41:44,711 --> 00:41:47,380
monica and others that made

1743
00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:49,416
these changes that are very

1744
00:41:49,416 --> 00:41:50,517
reasonable. So I do think we

1745
00:41:50,517 --> 00:41:52,252
have a great outline of what we

1746
00:41:52,252 --> 00:41:53,420
need to do with the strategic

1747
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:55,880
plan, and it was adopted in

1748
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,890
2018. I simply think that we

1749
00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,689
need to make sure that the

1750
00:42:01,295 --> 00:42:03,397
public gets to see

1751
00:42:03,397 --> 00:42:04,970
compliance,

1752
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:05,320
implementation, and those

1753
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,533
regular reports and making sure

1754
00:42:06,533 --> 00:42:08,335
that we're meeting the metrics,

1755
00:42:08,335 --> 00:42:09,736
the goals stated in that

1756
00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:10,570
strategic plan. So to the

1757
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:13,273
extent that something is brought

1758
00:42:13,273 --> 00:42:14,441
back, I think we need to do

1759
00:42:14,441 --> 00:42:15,942
something on a periodic basis,

1760
00:42:15,942 --> 00:42:17,912
and make sure that we're able to

1761
00:42:17,912 --> 00:42:20,346
see almost as a dashboard,

1762
00:42:20,346 --> 00:42:21,849
right, to see how we're doing on

1763
00:42:21,849 --> 00:42:23,617
these different concerns that we

1764
00:42:23,617 --> 00:42:25,785
have, that are outlined in the

1765
00:42:25,785 --> 00:42:27,888
strategic plan. So I am

1766
00:42:27,888 --> 00:42:30,124
supportive of all that's been

1767
00:42:30,124 --> 00:42:31,859
said, and obviously on this

1768
00:42:31,859 --> 00:42:33,427
underlying item, which is sort

1769
00:42:33,427 --> 00:42:35,950
of unrelated to the strategic

1770
00:42:35,950 --> 00:42:37,297
plan implementation. But I do

1771
00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:37,965
think maybe we should bring

1772
00:42:37,965 --> 00:42:40,200
something back that's a little

1773
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,100
bit more formal that will give

1774
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,669
some guidance on how to make

1775
00:42:42,669 --> 00:42:43,604
sure we're complying with the

1776
00:42:43,604 --> 00:42:46,400
strategic plan periodically for

1777
00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:47,974
the public to see. So I am

1778
00:42:47,974 --> 00:42:50,770
supportive these -- of the

1779
00:42:50,770 --> 00:42:50,244
underlying item, as well. Thank

1780
00:42:50,244 --> 00:42:51,144
you.

1781
00:42:51,144 --> 00:42:53,544
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1782
00:42:54,147 --> 00:42:56,547
you. Any more comment?

1783
00:42:57,170 --> 00:42:58,585
Seeing none, we have a motion.

1784
00:42:58,585 --> 00:43:01,585
Any objection? The item is

1785
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:05,490
approved. Thank you. Item 7.

1786
00:43:05,726 --> 00:43:07,895
Is that where we're at? Item 7,

1787
00:43:07,895 --> 00:43:10,895
yes. That would conclude our

1788
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:13,901
consent calendar.

1789
00:43:13,901 --> 00:43:14,568
>>clerk, robin stieler: 7.

1790
00:43:14,568 --> 00:43:15,268
Under Treasurer-Tax Collector-

1791
00:43:15,268 --> 00:43:16,690
Approve transfer of funds

1792
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:17,300
($62,669.16) From Probation Fund

1793
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:18,720
to Probation Victim Restitution

1794
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:19,500
Fund and transfer of escheated

1795
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:19,940
funds ($74,056.03) From

1796
00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:22,340
Sheriff-Coroner Fund to County

1797
00:43:34,721 --> 00:43:34,954
General Fund. It does require a

1798
00:43:34,954 --> 00:43:36,290
vote.

1799
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:37,900
>>chair, doug chaffee: an

1800
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:37,725
all-district item.

1801
00:43:37,725 --> 00:43:37,992
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

1802
00:43:37,992 --> 00:43:38,859
the item.

1803
00:43:38,859 --> 00:43:41,259
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll

1804
00:43:41,762 --> 00:43:42,530
second the item.

1805
00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:44,980
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no

1806
00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:44,298
one wants to support this, I

1807
00:43:44,298 --> 00:43:45,599
guess.

1808
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,168
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

1809
00:43:47,168 --> 00:43:49,568
objection? Seeing none, it

1810
00:43:50,904 --> 00:43:51,872
required a 4/5th vote. We

1811
00:43:51,872 --> 00:43:53,174
have unanimous approval of that

1812
00:43:53,174 --> 00:43:53,774
item. Item 8, please.

1813
00:43:53,774 --> 00:43:54,507
>>clerk, robin stieler: 8.

1814
00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:55,342
Under health care agency,

1815
00:43:55,342 --> 00:43:56,176
Approve amendment 2 to renew

1816
00:43:56,176 --> 00:43:57,278
contract ma-042-24010172 with

1817
00:43:57,278 --> 00:43:58,345
The Regents of the University of

1818
00:43:58,345 --> 00:43:59,213
California, on behalf of uc

1819
00:43:59,213 --> 00:44:00,747
Irvine School of Medicine,

1820
00:44:00,747 --> 00:44:01,415
Department of Psychiatry for

1821
00:44:01,415 --> 00:44:02,830
physician services, 7/1/26-

1822
00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:02,717
6/30/28 ($1,210,000; cumulative

1823
00:44:02,717 --> 00:44:03,617
total $3,025,000); And

1824
00:44:03,617 --> 00:44:05,520
authorize County Procurement

1825
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Officer or Deputized designee to

1826
00:44:08,388 --> 00:44:11,388
execute amendment. We have no

1827
00:44:11,392 --> 00:44:11,548
requests to speak on agenda item

1828
00:44:11,548 --> 00:44:12,293
8.

1829
00:44:12,293 --> 00:44:13,994
>>chair, doug chaffee: lgt a

1830
00:44:13,994 --> 00:44:15,329
district 2 item.

1831
00:44:15,329 --> 00:44:15,563
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

1832
00:44:15,563 --> 00:44:16,130
second.

1833
00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:17,832
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

1834
00:44:17,832 --> 00:44:18,632
objection? Item is approved.

1835
00:44:18,632 --> 00:44:19,233
Item 9, please.

1836
00:44:19,233 --> 00:44:20,100
>>clerk, robin stieler: 9.

1837
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:21,670
Under health care agency,

1838
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:21,936
Approve amendment 6 to renew

1839
00:44:21,936 --> 00:44:23,137
contract ma-042-23011035 with

1840
00:44:23,137 --> 00:44:24,105
ocy Management, llc for

1841
00:44:24,105 --> 00:44:24,704
non-emergency transportation

1842
00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:25,373
services, 7/1/26-6/30/28

1843
00:44:25,373 --> 00:44:26,207
($1,000,000; cumulative total

1844
00:44:26,207 --> 00:44:26,906
$4,650,000); and authorize

1845
00:44:26,906 --> 00:44:27,541
County Procurement Officer or

1846
00:44:27,541 --> 00:44:29,941
Deputized designee to execute

1847
00:44:30,711 --> 00:44:33,711
amendment. We have no requests

1848
00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:35,516
to speak on agenda item 9.

1849
00:44:35,516 --> 00:44:38,516
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

1850
00:44:49,163 --> 00:44:49,864
all-district item.

1851
00:44:49,864 --> 00:44:50,531
>>clerk, robin stieler: 10.

1852
00:44:50,531 --> 00:44:51,299
Under health care agency,

1853
00:44:51,299 --> 00:44:52,320
approve amendment 6 to renew

1854
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,800
contract ma-042-20011621 with

1855
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,568
anaheim global medical center,

1856
00:44:53,568 --> 00:44:54,235
inc. For inpatient hospital

1857
00:44:54,235 --> 00:44:54,936
services for correctional health

1858
00:44:54,936 --> 00:44:55,669
services, 7/1/26-6/30/28

1859
00:44:55,669 --> 00:44:56,404
($12,833,874; cumulative total

1860
00:44:56,404 --> 00:44:57,380
$49,855,154); and authorize

1861
00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:57,672
county procurement officer or

1862
00:44:57,672 --> 00:45:00,720
deputized designee to execute

1863
00:45:00,707 --> 00:45:01,476
amendment. S we have no

1864
00:45:01,476 --> 00:45:02,343
requests to speak.

1865
00:45:02,343 --> 00:45:03,778
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

1866
00:45:03,778 --> 00:45:05,790
district 3 item.

1867
00:45:05,790 --> 00:45:06,848
>>janet nguyen: thank you. I

1868
00:45:06,848 --> 00:45:09,717
received a contribution of over

1869
00:45:09,717 --> 00:45:12,117
$1,000 for ocy management back

1870
00:45:12,820 --> 00:45:13,955
in 2025.

1871
00:45:13,955 --> 00:45:16,355
Since the contribution exceeds

1872
00:45:21,295 --> 00:45:23,164
the 500 threshold set by the

1873
00:45:23,164 --> 00:45:25,833
management, I am recusing myself

1874
00:45:25,833 --> 00:45:26,134
from participating in this

1875
00:45:26,134 --> 00:45:28,134
discussion.

1876
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:31,304
>>leon page: and that was item 9

1877
00:45:31,304 --> 00:45:32,774
and 10, supervisor, correct?

1878
00:45:32,774 --> 00:45:34,475
Where you intend to recuse

1879
00:45:34,475 --> 00:45:35,977
yourself? If the board would

1880
00:45:35,977 --> 00:45:38,790
permit to reflect that

1881
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:39,814
supervisor nguyen did not

1882
00:45:39,814 --> 00:45:40,581
participate in the board

1883
00:45:40,581 --> 00:45:42,160
deliberation vote on item 9,

1884
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,818
which we already did, and now

1885
00:45:43,818 --> 00:45:45,252
we're on number 10.

1886
00:45:45,252 --> 00:45:48,252
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

1887
00:45:51,425 --> 00:45:54,328
move to re-open item 9 for --

1888
00:45:54,328 --> 00:45:55,730
item no. 9 for a second vote.

1889
00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:56,130
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll move

1890
00:45:56,130 --> 00:45:57,265
the item.

1891
00:45:57,265 --> 00:45:57,498
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

1892
00:45:57,498 --> 00:45:59,498
second.

1893
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:02,337
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

1894
00:46:02,337 --> 00:46:02,970
objection?

1895
00:46:02,970 --> 00:46:05,970
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: you

1896
00:46:10,445 --> 00:46:11,780
have to make the disclosure.

1897
00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:12,946
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm not

1898
00:46:12,946 --> 00:46:13,747
sure where we are here.

1899
00:46:13,747 --> 00:46:15,950
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: now

1900
00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:16,484
we have to vote on item 9.

1901
00:46:16,484 --> 00:46:18,884
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

1902
00:46:20,255 --> 00:46:21,222
right. We had a motion, and

1903
00:46:21,222 --> 00:46:23,491
supervisor sarmiento would like

1904
00:46:23,491 --> 00:46:25,826
to make a comment.

1905
00:46:25,826 --> 00:46:26,600
>>vincente sarmiento: on item 10

1906
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,610
10.

1907
00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:28,163
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

1908
00:46:28,163 --> 00:46:30,163
We're back to 9.

1909
00:46:31,299 --> 00:46:32,320
>>vincente sarmiento: I moved

1910
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,834
item 9.

1911
00:46:32,834 --> 00:46:33,100
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and I

1912
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:33,667
seconded.

1913
00:46:33,667 --> 00:46:36,670
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

1914
00:46:37,238 --> 00:46:37,539
objection? Seeing none, item 9

1915
00:46:37,539 --> 00:46:38,840
is approved.

1916
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,740
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: with

1917
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:40,975
one abstention.

1918
00:46:40,975 --> 00:46:43,375
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

1919
00:46:43,378 --> 00:46:45,713
With one abstention. Okay.

1920
00:46:45,713 --> 00:46:47,147
Sorry. All right. That gave us

1921
00:46:47,147 --> 00:46:49,170
a majority vote. Now we're on

1922
00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:50,518
item 10, that's a district 2 and

1923
00:46:50,518 --> 00:46:52,530
3 item.

1924
00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:53,454
>>vincente sarmiento: that,

1925
00:46:53,454 --> 00:46:55,757
MR. Chair. I'd like to have

1926
00:46:55,757 --> 00:46:56,590
DR. Kelly, if she can, maybe

1927
00:46:56,590 --> 00:46:57,959
come and share some thoughts on

1928
00:46:57,959 --> 00:46:59,527
this. I want to make sure that

1929
00:46:59,527 --> 00:47:03,727
we are clear. I know this is

1930
00:47:05,433 --> 00:47:07,435
for services for our in-custody

1931
00:47:07,435 --> 00:47:09,370
population. So medical care and

1932
00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:11,720
hospital care. So to the

1933
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:12,607
extent, DR. Kelly, if you could

1934
00:47:12,607 --> 00:47:13,507
just walk us through.

1935
00:47:13,507 --> 00:47:15,509
>>leon page: and I think

1936
00:47:15,509 --> 00:47:16,444
supervisor nguyen has been

1937
00:47:16,444 --> 00:47:17,345
announcement on this as well.

1938
00:47:17,345 --> 00:47:18,880
>>janet nguyen: I do. I would

1939
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,248
like to also recuse myself from

1940
00:47:20,248 --> 00:47:23,184
this vote, as well. I received

1941
00:47:23,184 --> 00:47:24,886
a contribution of $2500 from

1942
00:47:24,886 --> 00:47:26,886
strategic global management,

1943
00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:27,622
inc. Which is affiliated with

1944
00:47:27,622 --> 00:47:30,220
anaheim global medical center

1945
00:47:30,580 --> 00:47:31,660
back on MAY 12th, 2025 for

1946
00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:32,560
this item. I'm recushion myself

1947
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,162
from participating in any

1948
00:47:34,162 --> 00:47:37,650
discussion or vote on this

1949
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:39,650
matter. Thank you.

1950
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:42,100
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

1951
00:47:44,172 --> 00:47:45,906
right. Any more comments?

1952
00:47:45,906 --> 00:47:46,975
>>speaker: good morning,

1953
00:47:46,975 --> 00:47:48,975
CHAIRMAN Chaffee, honorable

1954
00:47:50,178 --> 00:47:51,780
board. DR. Kelly, director of

1955
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:53,815
the orange county healthcare

1956
00:47:53,815 --> 00:47:55,383
agency. Were there specific

1957
00:47:55,383 --> 00:47:55,784
questions you had or you just

1958
00:47:55,784 --> 00:47:57,185
want an overview.

1959
00:47:57,185 --> 00:47:59,354
>>vincente sarmiento: I know we

1960
00:47:59,354 --> 00:48:00,756
went to procurement for this.

1961
00:48:00,756 --> 00:48:02,424
We had two responses. I know

1962
00:48:02,424 --> 00:48:03,892
that anaheim global is the

1963
00:48:03,892 --> 00:48:05,160
prevailing bidder on this.

1964
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,895
Number one, explain what the

1965
00:48:06,895 --> 00:48:08,429
item is, it's an important one,

1966
00:48:08,429 --> 00:48:10,631
and number 2, what are your

1967
00:48:10,631 --> 00:48:12,534
thoughts going forward? Does

1968
00:48:12,534 --> 00:48:14,770
this benefit the county? I know

1969
00:48:14,770 --> 00:48:16,270
this is trying to include

1970
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:18,407
cal-aim to be able to maybe

1971
00:48:18,407 --> 00:48:20,800
address some of the cost

1972
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:20,608
concerns. But if you can,

1973
00:48:20,608 --> 00:48:22,510
please --

1974
00:48:22,510 --> 00:48:23,745
>>speaker: this stem to renew

1975
00:48:23,745 --> 00:48:25,745
inpatient services for

1976
00:48:26,247 --> 00:48:27,783
correctional health. And so the

1977
00:48:27,783 --> 00:48:29,500
vendor is anaheim global medical

1978
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:31,450
center. They provide medical

1979
00:48:32,888 --> 00:48:34,220
care for inmates who require

1980
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:36,422
outpatient specialty care such

1981
00:48:36,725 --> 00:48:39,940
as dialysis that can't be done

1982
00:48:39,940 --> 00:48:40,529
in custody or inpatient care, if

1983
00:48:40,529 --> 00:48:42,230
someone is having a cardiac

1984
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:45,230
issue, they're giving birth. So

1985
00:48:45,367 --> 00:48:46,868
they provide that medical care.

1986
00:48:46,868 --> 00:48:49,204
>>vincente sarmiento: who are we

1987
00:48:49,204 --> 00:48:49,838
billing for this? Who's paying

1988
00:48:49,838 --> 00:48:51,305
for this.

1989
00:48:51,305 --> 00:48:53,410
>>speaker: none of that is

1990
00:48:53,410 --> 00:48:55,277
billable to any insurance. That

1991
00:48:55,277 --> 00:48:57,913
is full net county cost. The

1992
00:48:57,913 --> 00:48:59,982
item you talked about cal-aim

1993
00:48:59,982 --> 00:49:01,483
jail in range is for a very

1994
00:49:01,483 --> 00:49:02,885
specific cost that would not

1995
00:49:02,885 --> 00:49:03,852
include these services. It

1996
00:49:03,852 --> 00:49:05,921
would include some services we

1997
00:49:05,921 --> 00:49:07,523
provide for correctional health,

1998
00:49:07,523 --> 00:49:08,490
evaluations, medical evaluations

1999
00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:09,991
of inmates, providing

2000
00:49:09,991 --> 00:49:12,940
medication. And we are going to

2001
00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:13,595
start that APRIL 1st, and we

2002
00:49:13,595 --> 00:49:16,165
can only provide that and bill

2003
00:49:16,165 --> 00:49:18,133
the state for those services,

2004
00:49:18,133 --> 00:49:19,835
for people who are eligible for

2005
00:49:19,835 --> 00:49:22,771
medi-cal, and that would be for

2006
00:49:22,771 --> 00:49:25,174
90 days prior to their release.

2007
00:49:25,174 --> 00:49:28,774
Carnals so 83% of this is born

2008
00:49:29,110 --> 00:49:29,978
by the county, that county cost

2009
00:49:29,978 --> 00:49:31,313
17% realignment dollars. Your

2010
00:49:31,313 --> 00:49:33,115
recommendation, we just went out

2011
00:49:33,115 --> 00:49:35,450
on an rfp, do you think we

2012
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:35,650
should go out on one soon

2013
00:49:35,650 --> 00:49:36,885
after.

2014
00:49:36,885 --> 00:49:38,887
>>speaker: we are going to be

2015
00:49:38,887 --> 00:49:41,287
starting another rfp. Usually

2016
00:49:41,490 --> 00:49:42,891
they take 12 to 18 months. This

2017
00:49:42,891 --> 00:49:43,726
is harder service to find

2018
00:49:43,726 --> 00:49:45,226
appropriate vendors for because

2019
00:49:45,226 --> 00:49:46,628
of the population and the

2020
00:49:46,628 --> 00:49:49,280
custody, the hard custody

2021
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,566
requirements. So change in the

2022
00:49:50,566 --> 00:49:52,768
actual building space itself.

2023
00:49:52,768 --> 00:49:54,503
So we will be shortly after --

2024
00:49:54,503 --> 00:49:56,905
if this report approves, we will

2025
00:49:56,905 --> 00:49:57,473
go out for another rfp.

2026
00:49:57,473 --> 00:49:58,906
>>vincente sarmiento: I'm

2027
00:49:58,906 --> 00:50:00,475
supportive of that. That's what

2028
00:50:00,475 --> 00:50:02,845
I wanted to get on the the

2029
00:50:02,845 --> 00:50:04,179
record make sure that that's

2030
00:50:04,179 --> 00:50:04,980
understood, giving my support

2031
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:07,449
for this item. I'll go ahead

2032
00:50:07,449 --> 00:50:09,585
and move this item based on

2033
00:50:09,585 --> 00:50:10,519
attempt that from your team.

2034
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:11,820
Thanks.

2035
00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:14,356
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

2036
00:50:14,356 --> 00:50:14,657
seconded. Was there an

2037
00:50:14,657 --> 00:50:15,357
abstention?

2038
00:50:15,357 --> 00:50:15,991
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

2039
00:50:15,991 --> 00:50:18,391
>>chair, doug chaffee: noting

2040
00:50:19,762 --> 00:50:22,762
the abstention, the item is

2041
00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:24,333
approved, 4 votes. Item 11,

2042
00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:24,934
please.

2043
00:50:24,934 --> 00:50:25,534
>>clerk, robin stieler: 11.

2044
00:50:25,534 --> 00:50:26,201
Under health care agency,

2045
00:50:26,201 --> 00:50:26,868
approve amendment 2 to renew

2046
00:50:26,868 --> 00:50:27,703
contract ma-042-23011108 with

2047
00:50:27,703 --> 00:50:29,171
sdxray inc. For direct digital

2048
00:50:29,171 --> 00:50:30,506
radiology services for

2049
00:50:30,506 --> 00:50:31,400
correctional health services

2050
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:31,674
programs, 7/1/26-6/30/28

2051
00:50:31,674 --> 00:50:32,341
($4,214,240; cumulative total

2052
00:50:32,341 --> 00:50:33,108
$10,535,600); and authorize

2053
00:50:33,108 --> 00:50:35,508
county procurement officer or

2054
00:50:36,511 --> 00:50:37,380
deputized designee to execute amendment.

2055
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:38,780
We have no requests to speak on

2056
00:50:38,780 --> 00:50:39,381
agenda item 11.

2057
00:50:39,381 --> 00:50:40,949
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

2058
00:50:40,949 --> 00:50:42,651
district 2 and 3 item. Moved

2059
00:50:42,651 --> 00:50:45,510
and seconded. Any objection?

2060
00:50:45,587 --> 00:50:45,921
The item is approved. Item 12,

2061
00:50:45,921 --> 00:50:46,855
please.

2062
00:50:46,855 --> 00:50:47,723
>>clerk, robin stieler: 12.

2063
00:50:47,723 --> 00:50:48,824
Under health care agency,

2064
00:50:48,824 --> 00:50:49,692
approve amendment 2 to renew

2065
00:50:49,692 --> 00:50:50,525
contract ma-042-23011109 with

2066
00:50:50,525 --> 00:50:51,460
correctional managed care,

2067
00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:52,361
medical corporation, for

2068
00:50:52,361 --> 00:50:53,262
physician services for

2069
00:50:53,262 --> 00:50:54,290
correctional health services

2070
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:54,830
programs, 7/1/26-6/30/28

2071
00:50:54,830 --> 00:50:55,664
($6,955,868; cumulative total

2072
00:50:55,664 --> 00:50:56,631
$16,410,125); and authorize

2073
00:50:56,631 --> 00:50:59,310
county procurement officer or

2074
00:50:59,702 --> 00:51:01,137
deputized designee to execute amendment.

2075
00:51:01,137 --> 00:51:01,837
We have no requests to speak on

2076
00:51:01,837 --> 00:51:02,438
agenda item 12.

2077
00:51:02,438 --> 00:51:05,106
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

2078
00:51:05,106 --> 00:51:07,376
district 2 and 3 item. Any

2079
00:51:07,376 --> 00:51:09,445
objection? Item is approved.

2080
00:51:09,445 --> 00:51:10,179
Item 13, please.

2081
00:51:10,179 --> 00:51:11,113
>>clerk, robin stieler: 13.

2082
00:51:11,113 --> 00:51:12,281
Under john wayne airport,

2083
00:51:12,281 --> 00:51:13,215
approve subordinate contract

2084
00:51:13,215 --> 00:51:14,183
ma-280-26010529 with siemens

2085
00:51:14,183 --> 00:51:15,840
industry, inc. For facility

2086
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,485
security systems, equipment, and

2087
00:51:16,485 --> 00:51:17,152
software with related services,

2088
00:51:17,152 --> 00:51:18,200
4/23/26-2/18/29 ($2,800,000);

2089
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,888
renewable for one additional

2090
00:51:18,888 --> 00:51:20,423
two-year term; authorize county

2091
00:51:20,423 --> 00:51:21,290
procurement officer or deputized

2092
00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:22,190
designee to execute contract;

2093
00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:23,590
and make californi environmental

2094
00:51:23,590 --> 00:51:23,859
quality act (Ceqa) Exemption

2095
00:51:23,859 --> 00:51:26,259
findings under ceqa guidelines

2096
00:51:26,495 --> 00:51:28,798
section 15378. We have no

2097
00:51:28,798 --> 00:51:29,631
requests to speak on agenda item

2098
00:51:29,631 --> 00:51:30,432
13.

2099
00:51:30,432 --> 00:51:31,767
>>chair, doug chaffee: item 13 a

2100
00:51:31,767 --> 00:51:32,401
district 5 item.

2101
00:51:32,401 --> 00:51:34,170
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

2102
00:51:34,170 --> 00:51:35,504
the item.

2103
00:51:35,504 --> 00:51:37,904
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

2104
00:51:38,674 --> 00:51:40,674
objection? Motion carries.

2105
00:51:41,443 --> 00:51:42,278
Unanimously. Next item is 14.

2106
00:51:42,278 --> 00:51:43,450
>>clerk, robin stieler: 14.

2107
00:51:43,450 --> 00:51:43,946
Under oc community resources,

2108
00:51:43,946 --> 00:51:45,800
approve amendment 1 to contract

2109
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,147
ma-012-25011237 with citiguard,

2110
00:51:46,147 --> 00:51:47,149
inc. For unarmed security guard

2111
00:51:47,149 --> 00:51:48,117
services at various county

2112
00:51:48,117 --> 00:51:49,118
library branch locations, 4/1/26

2113
00:51:49,118 --> 00:51:50,286
-3/31/30 ($2,050,000;

2114
00:51:50,286 --> 00:51:51,354
cumulative total $2,250,000);

2115
00:51:51,354 --> 00:51:52,321
and authorize county procurement

2116
00:51:52,321 --> 00:51:53,388
officer or deputized designee to

2117
00:51:53,388 --> 00:51:55,788
execute amendment and future

2118
00:51:56,926 --> 00:51:58,260
amendments under certain conditions.

2119
00:51:58,260 --> 00:51:59,662
Question have no requests to

2120
00:51:59,662 --> 00:52:02,620
speak on agenda item 14.

2121
00:52:02,265 --> 00:52:02,665
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2122
00:52:02,665 --> 00:52:03,299
all-district item.

2123
00:52:03,299 --> 00:52:03,566
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

2124
00:52:03,566 --> 00:52:04,600
the item.

2125
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,468
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

2126
00:52:05,468 --> 00:52:07,868
objection? Item is approved.

2127
00:52:08,137 --> 00:52:08,871
Item 15, please.

2128
00:52:08,871 --> 00:52:09,671
>>clerk, robin stieler: 15.

2129
00:52:09,671 --> 00:52:10,540
Under oc community resources,

2130
00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:11,440
approve amendment 7 to contract

2131
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,341
ma-012-23011443 with council on

2132
00:52:12,341 --> 00:52:13,142
aging-southern california,

2133
00:52:13,142 --> 00:52:13,976
inc. For senior health insurance

2134
00:52:13,976 --> 00:52:14,844
counseling and advocacy program

2135
00:52:14,844 --> 00:52:15,745
services, 4/1/26-3/31/27

2136
00:52:15,745 --> 00:52:16,546
($601,668; cumulative total

2137
00:52:16,546 --> 00:52:17,480
$1,808,627); and authorize

2138
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,281
county procurement officer or

2139
00:52:18,281 --> 00:52:20,681
deputized designee to execute

2140
00:52:24,454 --> 00:52:26,854
amendment and future amendments

2141
00:52:27,690 --> 00:52:28,825
under certain conditions. We

2142
00:52:28,825 --> 00:52:30,226
have no requests to speak.

2143
00:52:30,226 --> 00:52:31,694
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2144
00:52:31,694 --> 00:52:33,196
all-district item. Any

2145
00:52:33,196 --> 00:52:35,230
objection? Item is approved.

2146
00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:36,231
Item 16.

2147
00:52:36,231 --> 00:52:37,133
>>clerk, robin stieler: 16.

2148
00:52:37,133 --> 00:52:38,134
Under oc public works, adopt

2149
00:52:38,134 --> 00:52:39,335
resolution initiating 2026 weed

2150
00:52:39,335 --> 00:52:40,236
abatement program and setting

2151
00:52:40,236 --> 00:52:41,471
public hearing for 4/14/26, 9:30

2152
00:52:41,471 --> 00:52:42,438
A.M. To consider assessment to

2153
00:52:42,438 --> 00:52:43,271
private property for cost

2154
00:52:43,271 --> 00:52:44,506
removal of weeds by county or

2155
00:52:44,506 --> 00:52:45,407
contractor; and make california

2156
00:52:45,407 --> 00:52:47,807
environmental quality act (Ceqa)

2157
00:52:50,613 --> 00:52:53,130
Exemption findings under ceqa

2158
00:52:54,550 --> 00:52:56,219
guidelines section 15304. We

2159
00:52:56,219 --> 00:52:56,586
have no requests to speak on

2160
00:52:56,586 --> 00:52:58,454
agenda item 16.

2161
00:52:58,454 --> 00:53:00,156
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2162
00:53:00,156 --> 00:53:01,900
all-district item. Moved and

2163
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:03,900
seconded. Any objection?

2164
00:53:05,929 --> 00:53:06,362
Motion carries. Item 17, please

2165
00:53:06,362 --> 00:53:06,963
please.

2166
00:53:06,963 --> 00:53:07,597
>>clerk, robin stieler: 17.

2167
00:53:07,597 --> 00:53:08,264
Under oc public works, approve

2168
00:53:08,264 --> 00:53:09,899
aggregate contract

2169
00:53:09,899 --> 00:53:10,733
ma-080-26010053 with various

2170
00:53:10,733 --> 00:53:11,634
contractors for sanitation and

2171
00:53:11,634 --> 00:53:12,402
remediation removal &

2172
00:53:12,402 --> 00:53:13,336
decontamination services, 3/9/26

2173
00:53:13,336 --> 00:53:14,370
-3/8/29 (Aggregate total

2174
00:53:14,370 --> 00:53:14,837
$1,800,000); renewable for one

2175
00:53:14,837 --> 00:53:15,638
additional two-year term;

2176
00:53:15,638 --> 00:53:16,539
authorize county procurement

2177
00:53:16,539 --> 00:53:17,373
officer or deputized designee to

2178
00:53:17,373 --> 00:53:18,174
execute contract; and make

2179
00:53:18,174 --> 00:53:19,420
california environmental

2180
00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:19,809
quality act (Ceqa) Exemption

2181
00:53:19,809 --> 00:53:22,209
findings under ceqa guidelines

2182
00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:26,380
sections 15301 and 15308 we have

2183
00:53:26,916 --> 00:53:27,830
no if to speak on agenda item

2184
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:28,451
17.

2185
00:53:28,451 --> 00:53:29,118
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2186
00:53:29,118 --> 00:53:30,190
all-district item.

2187
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:30,253
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

2188
00:53:30,253 --> 00:53:31,320
second.

2189
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,455
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

2190
00:53:32,455 --> 00:53:34,590
seconded, any objection? Motion

2191
00:53:34,590 --> 00:53:38,190
approved. I'd like now to move

2192
00:53:40,463 --> 00:53:41,197
to item 28.

2193
00:53:41,197 --> 00:53:42,310
>>clerk, robin stieler: 28.

2194
00:53:42,310 --> 00:53:43,660
Under county executive office-

2195
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:44,000
acting as the orange county

2196
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:44,968
board of supervisors and orange

2197
00:53:44,968 --> 00:53:45,902
county flood control district-

2198
00:53:45,902 --> 00:53:46,736
adopt 2026 contract policy

2199
00:53:46,736 --> 00:53:48,736
manual, effective 2/24/26

2200
00:53:48,804 --> 00:53:50,373
2/24/26; authorize county

2201
00:53:50,373 --> 00:53:52,509
executive officer or designee to

2202
00:53:52,509 --> 00:53:54,770
make changes under certain

2203
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:55,178
conditions; and adopt amended

2204
00:53:55,178 --> 00:53:56,179
resolution authorizing director

2205
00:53:56,179 --> 00:53:58,579
of oc public works,

2206
00:53:58,782 --> 00:54:00,383
sheriff-coroner or designees to

2207
00:54:00,383 --> 00:54:02,618
advertise bids in accordance

2208
00:54:02,618 --> 00:54:05,180
with public contract code

2209
00:54:09,626 --> 00:54:11,226
sections 22037, 22032(C) And 20128.5.

2210
00:54:11,226 --> 00:54:12,762
We have no if to speak on agenda

2211
00:54:12,762 --> 00:54:13,496
item 28.

2212
00:54:13,496 --> 00:54:14,564
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2213
00:54:14,564 --> 00:54:16,564
all-district item.

2214
00:54:17,267 --> 00:54:17,567
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

2215
00:54:17,567 --> 00:54:18,801
the item.

2216
00:54:18,801 --> 00:54:20,503
>>janet nguyen: I have a

2217
00:54:20,503 --> 00:54:21,304
question, MR. CHAIRMAN

2218
00:54:21,304 --> 00:54:22,706
supervisor supervisor nguyen.

2219
00:54:22,706 --> 00:54:24,706
Go ahead.

2220
00:54:28,344 --> 00:54:31,344
>>janet nguyen: any staff here?

2221
00:54:31,782 --> 00:54:34,782
Maria, just, real quick, I

2222
00:54:35,819 --> 00:54:37,586
know -- first, thank you. You

2223
00:54:37,586 --> 00:54:39,689
did a phenomenal job in putting

2224
00:54:39,689 --> 00:54:41,958
all of our thoughts and comments

2225
00:54:41,958 --> 00:54:43,660
and questions from last week --

2226
00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:45,394
or two weeks ago now. My only

2227
00:54:45,394 --> 00:54:46,763
question is, I know that you've

2228
00:54:46,763 --> 00:54:49,832
mentioned this, but I wanted to

2229
00:54:49,832 --> 00:54:51,835
make sure that the -- under the

2230
00:54:51,835 --> 00:54:54,835
board's approval on the power

2231
00:54:55,138 --> 00:54:57,474
presentation, it says -- where

2232
00:54:57,474 --> 00:54:59,576
it describes the changes to rfp

2233
00:54:59,576 --> 00:55:01,278
and rfq comes to the board for

2234
00:55:01,278 --> 00:55:02,612
selection and then staff

2235
00:55:02,612 --> 00:55:04,140
negotiates the contract and then

2236
00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:07,250
comes back to the board for

2237
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:10,250
final approval. But on the

2238
00:55:10,587 --> 00:55:14,187
package itself, I don't see the

2239
00:55:14,324 --> 00:55:16,492
rfp. I only see rfq. Am I

2240
00:55:16,492 --> 00:55:17,393
missing somewhere? I just want

2241
00:55:17,393 --> 00:55:20,993
to make sure that it is

2242
00:55:22,665 --> 00:55:24,670
consistent and that it's in the

2243
00:55:24,670 --> 00:55:24,968
manual.

2244
00:55:24,968 --> 00:55:26,968
>>speaker: good morning,

2245
00:55:27,804 --> 00:55:29,640
CHAIRMAN, vice-chair, members of

2246
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,442
the board. Yes, the change

2247
00:55:32,442 --> 00:55:33,377
applies to all ASRs for

2248
00:55:33,377 --> 00:55:35,377
contract award.

2249
00:55:35,479 --> 00:55:36,512
>>janet nguyen: so rfp and --

2250
00:55:36,512 --> 00:55:37,781
>>speaker: any contracts coming

2251
00:55:37,781 --> 00:55:39,483
to the board. They will now

2252
00:55:39,483 --> 00:55:41,785
come one time for selection

2253
00:55:41,785 --> 00:55:43,920
earlier on in the process,

2254
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,721
asking for authority to then

2255
00:55:44,721 --> 00:55:46,957
negotiate an award. But we will

2256
00:55:46,957 --> 00:55:47,224
be coming earlier in the

2257
00:55:47,224 --> 00:55:48,725
process.

2258
00:55:48,725 --> 00:55:51,725
>>janet nguyen: okay. So that's

2259
00:55:53,970 --> 00:55:55,365
not just an rfq for joc and a&e

2260
00:55:55,365 --> 00:55:56,432
contracts, but for all.

2261
00:55:56,432 --> 00:55:58,168
>>speaker: any contract coming

2262
00:55:58,168 --> 00:55:59,402
to the board for award.

2263
00:55:59,402 --> 00:56:00,137
>>janet nguyen: okay. Is it

2264
00:56:00,137 --> 00:56:01,938
somewhere here? Because I just

2265
00:56:01,938 --> 00:56:03,607
want to make sure that a year

2266
00:56:03,607 --> 00:56:04,975
from now when we're talking

2267
00:56:04,975 --> 00:56:07,100
about the manual, they're like,

2268
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:07,210
we only did what the manual

2269
00:56:07,210 --> 00:56:09,210
says.

2270
00:56:11,748 --> 00:56:13,149
>>speaker: cpm is silent on that

2271
00:56:13,149 --> 00:56:15,549
procedural asr procedure. So

2272
00:56:15,652 --> 00:56:18,489
the change also be in the

2273
00:56:18,489 --> 00:56:20,290
procedures manual as well as the

2274
00:56:20,290 --> 00:56:21,826
asr guidance dewpoints. So cpm

2275
00:56:21,826 --> 00:56:22,893
is kind of silent on the process

2276
00:56:22,893 --> 00:56:24,728
to get board approval.

2277
00:56:24,728 --> 00:56:26,330
>>janet nguyen: why?

2278
00:56:26,330 --> 00:56:27,831
>>speaker: because we refer to

2279
00:56:27,831 --> 00:56:28,966
the asr guidance document and

2280
00:56:28,966 --> 00:56:30,433
our producers manual.

2281
00:56:30,433 --> 00:56:32,970
>>janet nguyen: when you have

2282
00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:33,469
that, can you send it up to us.

2283
00:56:33,469 --> 00:56:34,772
>>speaker: definitely.

2284
00:56:34,772 --> 00:56:35,572
>>janet nguyen: thank you.

2285
00:56:35,572 --> 00:56:36,306
>>chair, doug chaffee:

2286
00:56:36,306 --> 00:56:37,707
supervisor sarmiento.

2287
00:56:37,707 --> 00:56:38,409
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

2288
00:56:38,409 --> 00:56:39,343
MR. Chair, and thank you, marie

2289
00:56:39,343 --> 00:56:41,444
back for you and your team

2290
00:56:41,444 --> 00:56:42,111
making sure -- I think

2291
00:56:42,111 --> 00:56:43,747
everything that was discussed at

2292
00:56:43,747 --> 00:56:45,482
the last meeting was included.

2293
00:56:45,482 --> 00:56:46,116
Sounds like it was pretty

2294
00:56:46,116 --> 00:56:47,384
comprehensive. Just going back

2295
00:56:47,384 --> 00:56:48,719
to the question that supervisor

2296
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,954
nguyen was asking, the one

2297
00:56:50,954 --> 00:56:53,223
change about having the items,

2298
00:56:53,223 --> 00:56:56,223
these contracts come to the

2299
00:56:56,259 --> 00:56:57,600
board first to give authority

2300
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,628
for you and your team to

2301
00:56:58,628 --> 00:57:00,698
negotiate or for the contracts

2302
00:57:00,698 --> 00:57:03,700
to be negotiated, so we'll be

2303
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,402
seeing these in advance of that.

2304
00:57:05,402 --> 00:57:06,437
Does it come back to us, or is

2305
00:57:06,437 --> 00:57:08,339
it pretty much once we give

2306
00:57:08,339 --> 00:57:10,140
authority for you to then

2307
00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:11,775
negotiate those contracts, are

2308
00:57:11,775 --> 00:57:13,760
you now delegated with that?

2309
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,440
>>speaker: we will be asking for

2310
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,440
that delegated authority.

2311
00:57:16,112 --> 00:57:17,140
However, the board has the

2312
00:57:17,140 --> 00:57:20,614
opportunity to ask us to come

2313
00:57:21,652 --> 00:57:22,953
back for an a -- back forward at

2314
00:57:22,953 --> 00:57:23,553
any gufn time.

2315
00:57:23,553 --> 00:57:25,489
>>vincente sarmiento: when you

2316
00:57:25,489 --> 00:57:28,426
bring back the results of, you

2317
00:57:28,426 --> 00:57:29,894
know, the rfp, rfq, it will come

2318
00:57:29,894 --> 00:57:32,294
with no staff recommendation.

2319
00:57:32,929 --> 00:57:34,732
It simply comes back with data?

2320
00:57:34,732 --> 00:57:36,667
>>speaker: he will come back

2321
00:57:36,667 --> 00:57:37,667
with the rank order of the

2322
00:57:37,667 --> 00:57:39,203
results of the evaluation.

2323
00:57:39,203 --> 00:57:40,670
>>vincente sarmiento: look, to

2324
00:57:40,670 --> 00:57:41,671
me -- and I understand, you

2325
00:57:41,671 --> 00:57:43,740
know, what we're doing. We want

2326
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:44,675
to be more objective, maybe a

2327
00:57:44,675 --> 00:57:46,643
more open process for the board

2328
00:57:46,643 --> 00:57:49,146
to be able to make a decision.

2329
00:57:49,146 --> 00:57:50,548
I just want you to know, my

2330
00:57:50,548 --> 00:57:52,548
understanding of staff

2331
00:57:53,830 --> 00:57:54,585
recommending the way we have the

2332
00:57:54,585 --> 00:57:56,152
existing procedure now where

2333
00:57:56,152 --> 00:57:58,556
staff would come back and

2334
00:57:58,556 --> 00:58:00,424
recommend a vendor or vendors

2335
00:58:00,424 --> 00:58:02,159
based upon, you know, the

2336
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:03,694
procurement process, I always

2337
00:58:03,694 --> 00:58:04,628
thought, was fair. That doesn't

2338
00:58:04,628 --> 00:58:06,697
mean that this board has to

2339
00:58:06,697 --> 00:58:08,265
follow staff's recommendation.

2340
00:58:08,265 --> 00:58:10,660
It could deviate for whatever

2341
00:58:10,660 --> 00:58:11,435
reason. We could just see

2342
00:58:11,435 --> 00:58:13,835
things a little differently.

2343
00:58:14,438 --> 00:58:15,940
But the guidance from an

2344
00:58:15,940 --> 00:58:16,840
unbiased, technical subject

2345
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,760
matter, you know, a group of

2346
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,378
people on panels, that are

2347
00:58:21,378 --> 00:58:24,215
taking a deeper dive on this has

2348
00:58:24,215 --> 00:58:25,816
always been instructive. Not

2349
00:58:25,816 --> 00:58:27,551
depositive, but, you know,

2350
00:58:27,551 --> 00:58:29,286
helpful. So, you know, I didn't

2351
00:58:29,286 --> 00:58:33,900
want that to be lost. But at

2352
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,393
the same time I think maybe the

2353
00:58:36,393 --> 00:58:39,393
school board looking at having

2354
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:44,310
an unvarnished, you know, no

2355
00:58:44,969 --> 00:58:45,569
preference from staff on this.

2356
00:58:45,569 --> 00:58:47,271
But I don't know if a hybrid

2357
00:58:47,271 --> 00:58:48,172
would be better where it comes

2358
00:58:48,172 --> 00:58:50,508
to us early and the staff gives

2359
00:58:50,508 --> 00:58:53,611
us their thoughts on, you know,

2360
00:58:53,611 --> 00:58:55,460
what they believe would be the

2361
00:58:55,460 --> 00:58:57,348
preferential vendor or the

2362
00:58:57,348 --> 00:58:58,783
vendor that, you know, seems to

2363
00:58:58,783 --> 00:58:59,684
be better suited, based on

2364
00:58:59,684 --> 00:59:01,684
costs, experience, business

2365
00:59:01,786 --> 00:59:04,288
plan, whatever criteria we have.

2366
00:59:04,288 --> 00:59:05,289
I just didn't want to dismiss

2367
00:59:05,289 --> 00:59:07,424
all our subject matter experts

2368
00:59:07,424 --> 00:59:09,494
that are able to, you know, take

2369
00:59:09,494 --> 00:59:12,764
a deeper dive than we would on

2370
00:59:12,764 --> 00:59:14,865
this. Again, just for guidance.

2371
00:59:14,865 --> 00:59:16,800
Not for any rubber stamping or

2372
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,800
doing anything else. It's just

2373
00:59:19,837 --> 00:59:20,538
simply been helpful. So go

2374
00:59:20,538 --> 00:59:21,939
ahead, maria.

2375
00:59:21,939 --> 00:59:24,410
>>speaker: one suggestion is we

2376
00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:26,444
could put in the background

2377
00:59:26,444 --> 00:59:30,440
information of each asr based on

2378
00:59:31,182 --> 00:59:34,180
the information or evaluation --

2379
00:59:34,180 --> 00:59:34,652
or information contained the

2380
00:59:34,652 --> 00:59:35,952
staff -- we could provide some

2381
00:59:35,952 --> 00:59:36,520
sort of recommendation based on

2382
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,488
the information collected

2383
00:59:37,488 --> 00:59:38,523
through the evaluation process.

2384
00:59:38,523 --> 00:59:39,457
>>vincente sarmiento: right.

2385
00:59:39,457 --> 00:59:40,858
And that doesn't mean that's

2386
00:59:40,858 --> 00:59:42,592
going, to again, determine where

2387
00:59:42,592 --> 00:59:43,695
this board is going to go. We

2388
00:59:43,695 --> 00:59:44,962
could certainly take that into

2389
00:59:44,962 --> 00:59:46,664
consideration or not and just

2390
00:59:46,664 --> 00:59:48,700
simply, you know, go in a

2391
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:50,334
different direction. I do think

2392
00:59:50,334 --> 00:59:52,604
having staff give us some idea

2393
00:59:52,604 --> 00:59:56,204
and some sense of the rationale

2394
00:59:56,574 --> 00:59:58,509
of how we arrived at ranking and

2395
00:59:58,509 --> 01:00:00,478
how these different applicants

2396
01:00:00,478 --> 01:00:02,380
did, I think, is fair. So to

2397
01:00:02,380 --> 01:00:03,381
the extent that would be

2398
01:00:03,381 --> 01:00:04,548
something that could be included

2399
01:00:04,548 --> 01:00:07,510
in the process, again, that

2400
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:08,653
would be helpful, I think, as --

2401
01:00:08,653 --> 01:00:10,121
you know, for the public as well

2402
01:00:10,121 --> 01:00:11,788
as for us.

2403
01:00:11,788 --> 01:00:12,389
>>speaker: there is procedural

2404
01:00:12,389 --> 01:00:14,292
language until background of

2405
01:00:14,292 --> 01:00:15,627
asr. We could put something in

2406
01:00:15,627 --> 01:00:18,280
there and draft it and extend to

2407
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:18,730
the board's office for your

2408
01:00:18,730 --> 01:00:20,730
concurrence.

2409
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:21,832
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN?

2410
01:00:21,832 --> 01:00:23,233
MAY I?

2411
01:00:23,233 --> 01:00:24,169
>>chair, doug chaffee:

2412
01:00:24,169 --> 01:00:24,803
supervisor foley is next.

2413
01:00:24,803 --> 01:00:27,105
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

2414
01:00:27,105 --> 01:00:30,410
you. Mine will be quick. I

2415
01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:31,643
just want to thank your team in

2416
01:00:31,643 --> 01:00:34,779
procurement as well as all of

2417
01:00:34,779 --> 01:00:36,881
the department procurement team

2418
01:00:36,881 --> 01:00:37,882
members for helping us get

2419
01:00:37,882 --> 01:00:40,818
through this process. It's my

2420
01:00:40,818 --> 01:00:43,221
understanding that you all took

2421
01:00:43,221 --> 01:00:46,221
another look, and the $3 million

2422
01:00:46,458 --> 01:00:48,560
was gonna be okay in terms of

2423
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,194
efficiencies, and so I think

2424
01:00:50,194 --> 01:00:52,464
this contract policy manual

2425
01:00:52,464 --> 01:00:54,532
helps us to accomplish two

2426
01:00:54,532 --> 01:00:57,168
things. It keeps us efficient

2427
01:00:57,168 --> 01:01:00,168
in our progression and prevents

2428
01:01:00,772 --> 01:01:02,272
us from having any delays in our

2429
01:01:02,272 --> 01:01:05,272
projects, but also, you another

2430
01:01:05,377 --> 01:01:07,112
a little bit more oversight and

2431
01:01:07,112 --> 01:01:09,512
accountability by the board.

2432
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,349
And I'm hoping that if at all

2433
01:01:12,349 --> 01:01:15,453
you think that it's starting to

2434
01:01:15,453 --> 01:01:17,889
bog down, that you will alert

2435
01:01:17,889 --> 01:01:19,424
us, because we have a lot of

2436
01:01:19,424 --> 01:01:21,824
projects underway. We don't

2437
01:01:23,761 --> 01:01:27,132
want to get bogged down. And so

2438
01:01:27,132 --> 01:01:28,466
please do alert us. Thank you.

2439
01:01:28,466 --> 01:01:28,867
>>chair, doug chaffee:

2440
01:01:28,867 --> 01:01:29,768
supervisor nguyen.

2441
01:01:29,768 --> 01:01:30,802
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

2442
01:01:30,802 --> 01:01:32,337
MR. CHAIRMAN. I want to follow

2443
01:01:32,337 --> 01:01:34,406
up on what supervisor sarmiento

2444
01:01:34,406 --> 01:01:36,806
mentioned. My understanding is

2445
01:01:38,343 --> 01:01:39,310
that staff would do your panel

2446
01:01:39,310 --> 01:01:40,645
interview and everything, and

2447
01:01:40,645 --> 01:01:42,614
then you would give us all that

2448
01:01:42,614 --> 01:01:44,490
data so we would know -- because

2449
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:45,483
staff would usually take the

2450
01:01:45,483 --> 01:01:46,985
highest score. So we would know

2451
01:01:46,985 --> 01:01:48,452
that would be the selection of

2452
01:01:48,452 --> 01:01:50,522
staff, and then we would be up

2453
01:01:50,522 --> 01:01:51,656
here making that decision. And

2454
01:01:51,656 --> 01:01:55,600
the only reason is last year we

2455
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,962
had so many of those came here

2456
01:01:56,962 --> 01:01:59,164
afterward, and staff was -- put

2457
01:01:59,164 --> 01:02:00,665
so much time in getting these

2458
01:02:00,665 --> 01:02:02,367
contracts and everything

2459
01:02:02,367 --> 01:02:05,370
negotiated, and then you had to

2460
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:08,139
start over. And so that's why,

2461
01:02:08,139 --> 01:02:09,274
you know -- so it isn't that

2462
01:02:09,274 --> 01:02:10,842
we're just being handed, here,

2463
01:02:10,842 --> 01:02:12,177
have at it. You're going to

2464
01:02:12,177 --> 01:02:13,779
give us the data, the panel,

2465
01:02:13,779 --> 01:02:16,140
scoring, and all of that

2466
01:02:16,140 --> 01:02:17,849
information, and then we get to

2467
01:02:17,849 --> 01:02:19,170
make that -- we would then

2468
01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:19,818
deliberate and make that

2469
01:02:19,818 --> 01:02:20,886
decision.

2470
01:02:20,886 --> 01:02:22,153
>>speaker: correct.

2471
01:02:22,153 --> 01:02:22,753
>>janet nguyen: thank you.

2472
01:02:22,753 --> 01:02:24,489
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2473
01:02:24,489 --> 01:02:26,291
you. I'd like to thank you for

2474
01:02:26,291 --> 01:02:28,592
the incredible line of work the

2475
01:02:28,592 --> 01:02:30,429
staff has put in. It's been a

2476
01:02:30,429 --> 01:02:32,130
long haul. And thank you for

2477
01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:34,530
helping us understand the

2478
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,168
definition of "commodities" a

2479
01:02:36,168 --> 01:02:38,370
little better. It's more than

2480
01:02:38,370 --> 01:02:41,720
just gold and silver bars. And

2481
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,576
with that, I think we have a

2482
01:02:44,576 --> 01:02:46,511
motion. Any objection? The

2483
01:02:46,511 --> 01:02:47,445
item is approved. Thank you for

2484
01:02:47,445 --> 01:02:48,146
your good work.

2485
01:02:48,146 --> 01:02:48,747
>>speaker: thank you.

2486
01:02:48,747 --> 01:02:51,747
>>chair, doug chaffee: and now

2487
01:03:00,526 --> 01:03:01,193
we come back to item 18.

2488
01:03:01,193 --> 01:03:01,893
18. Approve job order contracts

2489
01:03:01,893 --> 01:03:02,560
with various contractors for

2490
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:03,295
general contracting services,

2491
01:03:03,295 --> 01:03:04,129
oneyear term ($5,000,000 each);

2492
01:03:04,129 --> 01:03:06,529
and authorize director or

2493
01:03:07,499 --> 01:03:08,967
designee to execute contracts.

2494
01:03:08,967 --> 01:03:09,868
And we have no requests to speak

2495
01:03:09,868 --> 01:03:11,680
on item 18.

2496
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,539
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2497
01:03:13,539 --> 01:03:13,772
all-district item. Supervisor

2498
01:03:13,772 --> 01:03:14,939
wagner.

2499
01:03:14,939 --> 01:03:18,539
>>don wagner: before we do that,

2500
01:03:19,478 --> 01:03:20,311
though, I think this is an item

2501
01:03:20,311 --> 01:03:22,711
that's $5 million per contract,

2502
01:03:23,314 --> 01:03:26,914
and we just talked about and

2503
01:03:27,952 --> 01:03:29,521
voted on $3 million. How is

2504
01:03:29,521 --> 01:03:33,121
this going to work? Kevin, can

2505
01:03:33,292 --> 01:03:34,930
you live with $3 million? Or do

2506
01:03:34,930 --> 01:03:36,595
you want to add some other

2507
01:03:36,595 --> 01:03:38,930
companies to make up the

2508
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:40,431
difference, or how -- help me

2509
01:03:40,431 --> 01:03:44,310
square these two. I just didn't

2510
01:03:46,671 --> 01:03:48,700
want this to fly past us.

2511
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:48,941
>>michelle aguirre: kevin,

2512
01:03:48,941 --> 01:03:50,508
before you respond, I think as

2513
01:03:50,508 --> 01:03:53,345
part the policy, right, the ends

2514
01:03:53,345 --> 01:03:55,213
something for most types of

2515
01:03:55,213 --> 01:03:58,830
contracts, most types of work,

2516
01:03:58,830 --> 01:03:59,685
the $3 million will suffice.

2517
01:03:59,685 --> 01:04:01,860
But there are some areas like

2518
01:04:01,860 --> 01:04:03,389
the one that you see before you,

2519
01:04:03,389 --> 01:04:05,900
the general contracting, where

2520
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:07,260
at least for this upcoming year,

2521
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:08,727
based on the number of projects,

2522
01:04:08,727 --> 01:04:11,727
the analysis that staff has

2523
01:04:11,864 --> 01:04:14,864
done, a higher amount is

2524
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,770
warranted, and departments would

2525
01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:18,804
bring those requests based on

2526
01:04:18,804 --> 01:04:20,840
their analysis. You MAY

2527
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,740
occasionally see something that

2528
01:04:21,740 --> 01:04:23,609
deviates from the $3 million,

2529
01:04:23,609 --> 01:04:24,276
about you has to be justified by

2530
01:04:24,276 --> 01:04:26,211
the department, and then that's

2531
01:04:26,211 --> 01:04:27,680
why we've got kevin here, to

2532
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,982
explain a little bit more

2533
01:04:29,982 --> 01:04:32,382
related to the general

2534
01:04:32,384 --> 01:04:33,486
contracting.

2535
01:04:33,486 --> 01:04:35,486
>>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,

2536
01:04:36,255 --> 01:04:37,256
members of the board, kevin

2537
01:04:37,256 --> 01:04:39,258
aloom know, oc public works.

2538
01:04:39,258 --> 01:04:41,658
The reason why we're

2539
01:04:42,995 --> 01:04:45,300
recommending a higher dollar

2540
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:47,660
amount is joc contracts are low

2541
01:04:47,660 --> 01:04:49,935
bid. If we went with the $3

2542
01:04:49,935 --> 01:04:50,970
million limit, we had 17

2543
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:52,304
responsive bids, we'd be using

2544
01:04:52,304 --> 01:04:53,372
the contractors with the highest

2545
01:04:53,372 --> 01:04:56,475
prices, so we'd be paying more

2546
01:04:56,475 --> 01:04:57,442
for the work. That why we're

2547
01:04:57,442 --> 01:04:59,211
recommending fewer contracts at

2548
01:04:59,211 --> 01:05:02,748
a higher dollar amount so we can

2549
01:05:02,748 --> 01:05:03,282
keep it at more of the low

2550
01:05:03,282 --> 01:05:05,282
bidders.

2551
01:05:06,385 --> 01:05:09,985
>>don wagner: is that true of

2552
01:05:10,889 --> 01:05:12,425
all joc contracts?

2553
01:05:12,425 --> 01:05:13,725
>>speaker: well, the joc

2554
01:05:13,725 --> 01:05:14,860
contracts for general

2555
01:05:14,860 --> 01:05:15,794
contracting as michelle said

2556
01:05:15,794 --> 01:05:18,564
tend to be a larger dollar

2557
01:05:18,564 --> 01:05:21,000
amount. The other joc contracts

2558
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,703
when it's specific to a trade,

2559
01:05:23,703 --> 01:05:25,438
plumbing and so on, the need for

2560
01:05:25,438 --> 01:05:27,740
those are the project size and

2561
01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:27,974
total dollar amounts tending to

2562
01:05:27,974 --> 01:05:28,640
smaller.

2563
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,176
>>don wagner: so despite our

2564
01:05:30,176 --> 01:05:31,476
policy and putting the $3

2565
01:05:31,476 --> 01:05:33,178
million into the contract policy

2566
01:05:33,178 --> 01:05:35,414
manual you expect on general

2567
01:05:35,414 --> 01:05:38,414
contracting to keep coming back

2568
01:05:38,618 --> 01:05:40,720
to us for higher amounts? So we

2569
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:40,920
should just be prepared for

2570
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,488
that?

2571
01:05:42,488 --> 01:05:44,589
>>speaker: in general, yes. But

2572
01:05:44,589 --> 01:05:45,992
it depends on the capital

2573
01:05:45,992 --> 01:05:47,160
projects that are approved by

2574
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,194
the board. If we have less,

2575
01:05:49,194 --> 01:05:49,662
maybe we can get by with the

2576
01:05:49,662 --> 01:05:50,730
smaller dollar amount.

2577
01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:53,730
>>don wagner: all right. Thank

2578
01:05:55,234 --> 01:05:56,835
you. I'll move the item.

2579
01:05:56,835 --> 01:05:59,839
>>chair, doug chaffee: if I MAY

2580
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:02,730
comment, when we do the asr and

2581
01:06:02,730 --> 01:06:03,743
it exceeds the policy amount,

2582
01:06:03,743 --> 01:06:06,646
then we shrewed a paragraph in

2583
01:06:06,646 --> 01:06:08,147
there describing that and

2584
01:06:08,147 --> 01:06:09,949
justifying it, if we can have

2585
01:06:09,949 --> 01:06:11,417
that in the future ASRs,

2586
01:06:11,417 --> 01:06:12,218
that'd be helpful.

2587
01:06:12,218 --> 01:06:12,785
>>speaker: will do.

2588
01:06:12,785 --> 01:06:13,351
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2589
01:06:13,351 --> 01:06:14,352
you. Supervisor sarmiento.

2590
01:06:14,352 --> 01:06:16,589
>>vincente sarmiento: and the

2591
01:06:16,589 --> 01:06:17,856
chair just kind of said exactly

2592
01:06:17,856 --> 01:06:20,426
weigh intended to say. Are we

2593
01:06:20,426 --> 01:06:21,940
calling this an exemption, an

2594
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:22,928
exception, a justification?

2595
01:06:22,928 --> 01:06:25,164
What term of art are we going to

2596
01:06:25,164 --> 01:06:26,650
see in that additional

2597
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:28,901
paragraph, just so we're clear

2598
01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:31,300
on the term? Maybe we should

2599
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:34,603
and our county counsel, I'm not

2600
01:06:39,879 --> 01:06:42,882
sure if -- I've heard exemption,

2601
01:06:42,882 --> 01:06:44,517
i've heard exception.

2602
01:06:44,517 --> 01:06:45,918
>>speaker: we can develop that

2603
01:06:45,918 --> 01:06:46,486
language and alert the board.

2604
01:06:46,486 --> 01:06:47,620
>>vincente sarmiento: and I

2605
01:06:47,620 --> 01:06:48,988
appreciate the $3 million

2606
01:06:48,988 --> 01:06:50,590
because when I saw the data that

2607
01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:51,991
you sent our office, the bulk of

2608
01:06:51,991 --> 01:06:53,893
the contracts are $3 million and

2609
01:06:53,893 --> 01:06:56,696
below. So that's why we landed

2610
01:06:56,696 --> 01:06:57,597
on this amount. There are --

2611
01:06:57,597 --> 01:06:58,831
there obviously were other

2612
01:06:58,831 --> 01:06:59,866
contracts outside of that

2613
01:06:59,866 --> 01:07:02,869
amount, but the bell curve, I

2614
01:07:02,869 --> 01:07:04,337
guess if you look at it, was the

2615
01:07:04,337 --> 01:07:05,671
median washed $3 million and

2616
01:07:05,671 --> 01:07:06,940
below. I just want to make sure

2617
01:07:06,940 --> 01:07:08,273
we have our terms correct.

2618
01:07:08,273 --> 01:07:08,508
>>speaker: we will get that out

2619
01:07:08,508 --> 01:07:09,909
to you.

2620
01:07:09,909 --> 01:07:10,750
>>vincente sarmiento: thank

2621
01:07:10,750 --> 01:07:11,110
you.

2622
01:07:11,110 --> 01:07:12,612
>>chair, doug

2623
01:07:12,612 --> 01:07:13,120
thank you

2624
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,848
vice-chair foley.

2625
01:07:14,848 --> 01:07:17,848
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

2626
01:07:19,752 --> 01:07:21,287
you. I'm not sure what we're

2627
01:07:21,287 --> 01:07:23,389
going to get because that was

2628
01:07:23,389 --> 01:07:24,925
the language we voted on. We

2629
01:07:24,925 --> 01:07:26,626
specifically added that sentence

2630
01:07:26,626 --> 01:07:28,761
that said for anything above $3

2631
01:07:28,761 --> 01:07:29,329
million we would come to the

2632
01:07:29,329 --> 01:07:31,640
board with a justification.

2633
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,665
It's not an exemption. It's

2634
01:07:32,665 --> 01:07:33,566
just justification, for

2635
01:07:33,566 --> 01:07:36,301
exceeding the $3 million. So I

2636
01:07:36,301 --> 01:07:37,303
feel like we already have it in

2637
01:07:37,303 --> 01:07:40,240
there. If we're going to change

2638
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,108
it, what do we need to change it

2639
01:07:42,108 --> 01:07:44,430
to? We've already said it.

2640
01:07:44,430 --> 01:07:44,878
>>vincente sarmiento: the only

2641
01:07:44,878 --> 01:07:47,800
reason why I mentioned it is

2642
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:48,248
because I've heard exemption

2643
01:07:48,248 --> 01:07:49,715
from staff exceptions as well.

2644
01:07:49,715 --> 01:07:51,117
If we're not going to use

2645
01:07:51,117 --> 01:07:52,285
justification, I wanted to see

2646
01:07:52,285 --> 01:07:54,220
if there was any other language

2647
01:07:54,220 --> 01:07:55,754
besides that. But if it's

2648
01:07:55,754 --> 01:07:56,555
justification, then that's the

2649
01:07:56,555 --> 01:07:58,258
term.

2650
01:07:58,258 --> 01:08:00,258
>>michelle aguirre: departments

2651
01:08:01,794 --> 01:08:03,229
will be required, right, to

2652
01:08:03,229 --> 01:08:06,229
justify it within the background

2653
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,868
exception of the asr. But what

2654
01:08:08,868 --> 01:08:10,270
the asr document does is provide

2655
01:08:10,270 --> 01:08:11,971
standard like template language

2656
01:08:11,971 --> 01:08:14,700
so that when you see, that we

2657
01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:15,609
have consistent language across

2658
01:08:15,609 --> 01:08:17,310
all ASRs for all departments

2659
01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:19,546
that kind of lead up to that

2660
01:08:19,546 --> 01:08:21,648
justification. So that's what

2661
01:08:21,648 --> 01:08:22,282
maria was referring to. We can

2662
01:08:22,282 --> 01:08:23,450
provide that standard language.

2663
01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:25,510
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so it

2664
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:26,552
will say "justification" and

2665
01:08:26,552 --> 01:08:27,353
then whatever it is.

2666
01:08:27,353 --> 01:08:28,488
>>michelle aguirre: exactly.

2667
01:08:28,488 --> 01:08:28,889
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

2668
01:08:28,889 --> 01:08:29,656
Thank you.

2669
01:08:29,656 --> 01:08:30,323
>>chair, doug chaffee:

2670
01:08:30,323 --> 01:08:31,124
supervisor nguyen.

2671
01:08:31,124 --> 01:08:33,524
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

2672
01:08:34,393 --> 01:08:36,793
MR. CHAIRMAN. So kevin...

2673
01:08:37,263 --> 01:08:40,167
What are these projects? What's

2674
01:08:40,167 --> 01:08:42,502
the $5 million each company --

2675
01:08:42,502 --> 01:08:43,869
what are they doing?

2676
01:08:43,869 --> 01:08:46,269
>>speaker: the projects are

2677
01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:47,540
listed in attachment m. So

2678
01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:50,750
they're the projects that have

2679
01:08:50,750 --> 01:08:52,379
been approved by the board as a

2680
01:08:52,379 --> 01:08:54,713
product of capital improvement

2681
01:08:54,713 --> 01:08:58,313
projects with the budget or with

2682
01:09:00,220 --> 01:09:03,220
the sfp. It includes projects

2683
01:09:03,756 --> 01:09:06,259
for fy25/26 and also projects

2684
01:09:06,259 --> 01:09:09,859
that were included in the sfp

2685
01:09:18,538 --> 01:09:20,720
for fy '26/27 and on.

2686
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,472
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

2687
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,212
libraries, public parks, --

2688
01:09:26,212 --> 01:09:28,612
public works, the gas

2689
01:09:29,149 --> 01:09:31,149
compressors, probation, juvenile

2690
01:09:31,718 --> 01:09:33,654
hall, sprinkler system, it's on

2691
01:09:33,654 --> 01:09:35,389
page 18 of the staff report.

2692
01:09:35,389 --> 01:09:37,290
Orangewood children family

2693
01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:39,426
center rehab, the manchester

2694
01:09:39,426 --> 01:09:41,328
office building, several

2695
01:09:41,328 --> 01:09:43,830
different ada and fire panel

2696
01:09:43,830 --> 01:09:45,399
upgrades. A lot of parks,

2697
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,799
libraries, town valley library

2698
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,403
roof, hvac, westminster roof

2699
01:09:53,307 --> 01:09:56,307
hvac, interior refresh for the

2700
01:09:57,711 --> 01:09:59,145
library..

2701
01:09:59,145 --> 01:10:02,145
>>janet nguyen: thank you. And

2702
01:10:02,883 --> 01:10:06,483
I think what would be helpful,

2703
01:10:06,487 --> 01:10:09,256
kevin, is maybe this page should

2704
01:10:09,256 --> 01:10:10,657
be part of it, asr, so we see

2705
01:10:10,657 --> 01:10:12,760
right away what these projects

2706
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:13,960
are or what you're working on

2707
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,996
versus having it in the back.

2708
01:10:15,996 --> 01:10:17,970
Because I think -- you know, I

2709
01:10:17,970 --> 01:10:19,320
want to also make sure that the

2710
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,634
public knows that we are giving

2711
01:10:21,634 --> 01:10:23,836
you the $5 million outside the

2712
01:10:23,836 --> 01:10:26,390
manual. I mean, basically it's

2713
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:28,390
your justification.

2714
01:10:29,777 --> 01:10:31,445
>>speaker: so put in the body of

2715
01:10:31,445 --> 01:10:31,745
the asr instead of the

2716
01:10:31,745 --> 01:10:33,745
attachment.

2717
01:10:34,415 --> 01:10:34,781
>>janet nguyen: yes, thank you.

2718
01:10:34,781 --> 01:10:35,349
>>speaker: okay.

2719
01:10:35,349 --> 01:10:37,350
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

2720
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:37,951
right. We have a motion. Any

2721
01:10:37,951 --> 01:10:40,351
objection? Item is approved.

2722
01:10:55,235 --> 01:10:55,869
Thank you. Item 19, please.

2723
01:10:55,869 --> 01:10:56,537
>>clerk, robin stieler: 19.

2724
01:10:56,537 --> 01:10:57,204
Under oc public works, consider

2725
01:10:57,204 --> 01:10:57,871
second reading and adoption of

2726
01:10:57,871 --> 01:10:58,705
"an ordinance of the county of

2727
01:10:58,705 --> 01:11:00,206
orange, state of california,

2728
01:11:00,206 --> 01:11:01,375
amending sections 3-14-2 through

2729
01:11:01,375 --> 01:11:02,776
3-14-16, 5-1-31, 5-1-33 and

2730
01:11:02,776 --> 01:11:04,211
7-9-103 of the codified

2731
01:11:04,211 --> 01:11:05,613
ordinances of the county of

2732
01:11:05,613 --> 01:11:08,130
orange"; and adopt resolution

2733
01:11:08,349 --> 01:11:09,817
adopting zoning code amendment

2734
01:11:09,817 --> 01:11:11,619
ca 25-02 (County of orange

2735
01:11:11,619 --> 01:11:13,619
commercial cannabis activities

2736
01:11:13,687 --> 01:11:16,870
and outdoor personal cultivation

2737
01:11:17,691 --> 01:11:19,760
prohibition ordinance). Woe have

2738
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:19,993
no requests to speak on agenda

2739
01:11:19,993 --> 01:11:21,295
item 19.

2740
01:11:21,295 --> 01:11:21,695
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

2741
01:11:21,695 --> 01:11:22,363
all-district item.

2742
01:11:22,363 --> 01:11:23,564
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

2743
01:11:23,564 --> 01:11:24,198
the item.

2744
01:11:24,198 --> 01:11:26,400
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

2745
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,690
right. This is an interesting

2746
01:11:29,690 --> 01:11:32,139
item in that we catch property

2747
01:11:32,139 --> 01:11:34,241
owners who are profiting well

2748
01:11:34,241 --> 01:11:35,943
illegal cannabis trade. I think

2749
01:11:35,943 --> 01:11:36,744
it's a good ordinance. Any

2750
01:11:36,744 --> 01:11:38,744
objection? Motion carries.

2751
01:11:43,850 --> 01:11:44,585
thank you. Item 20 please.

2752
01:11:44,585 --> 01:11:45,418
>>clerk, robin stieler: 20.

2753
01:11:45,418 --> 01:11:46,420
Under oc waster & recycling,

2754
01:11:46,420 --> 01:11:47,588
approve amendment 1 to renew

2755
01:11:47,588 --> 01:11:48,723
contract ma-299-22011684 with

2756
01:11:48,723 --> 01:11:50,900
stearns, conrad and schmidt,

2757
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:51,591
consulting engineers dba scs

2758
01:11:51,591 --> 01:11:52,293
field services for landfill gas

2759
01:11:52,293 --> 01:11:52,927
services, central region,

2760
01:11:52,927 --> 01:11:53,861
4/10/26-4/9/28 ($11,000,000;

2761
01:11:53,861 --> 01:11:55,290
cumulative total $27,500,000);

2762
01:11:55,290 --> 01:11:56,230
authorize county procurement

2763
01:11:56,230 --> 01:11:57,331
officer or deputized designee to

2764
01:11:57,331 --> 01:11:58,299
make minor changes under certain

2765
01:11:58,299 --> 01:11:59,934
conditions and execute

2766
01:11:59,934 --> 01:12:00,801
amendment; and make california

2767
01:12:00,801 --> 01:12:01,736
environmental quality act (Ceqa)

2768
01:12:01,736 --> 01:12:03,170
Exemption findings under ceqa

2769
01:12:03,170 --> 01:12:05,170
guidelines sections 15301,

2770
01:12:07,308 --> 01:12:09,100
15304, and 15308. We have no

2771
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:09,176
requests to speak on agenda item

2772
01:12:09,176 --> 01:12:10,745
20.

2773
01:12:10,745 --> 01:12:12,146
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

2774
01:12:12,146 --> 01:12:13,247
district 2, 3, and 5 item.

2775
01:12:13,247 --> 01:12:13,547
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

2776
01:12:13,547 --> 01:12:14,749
second.

2777
01:12:14,749 --> 01:12:15,583
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

2778
01:12:15,583 --> 01:12:17,983
seconded. Any objection? Item

2779
01:12:18,285 --> 01:12:18,886
is approved. Item 21, please.

2780
01:12:18,886 --> 01:12:19,487
>>clerk, robin stieler: 21.

2781
01:12:19,487 --> 01:12:20,888
Under oc waste & recycling,

2782
01:12:20,888 --> 01:12:22,323
adopt county of orange climate

2783
01:12:22,323 --> 01:12:23,690
action planning document; direct

2784
01:12:23,690 --> 01:12:25,326
staff to begin implementation

2785
01:12:25,326 --> 01:12:26,930
phase and analysis; and make

2786
01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:27,427
california environmental quality

2787
01:12:27,427 --> 01:12:28,462
act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

2788
01:12:28,462 --> 01:12:30,862
under ceqa guidelines section

2789
01:12:31,265 --> 01:12:33,665
15262 and public resources code

2790
01:12:37,370 --> 01:12:38,706
sections 21083 and 21150. And

2791
01:12:38,706 --> 01:12:40,408
MR. Chair, we very received

2792
01:12:40,408 --> 01:12:41,209
three requests to speak on

2793
01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:42,475
agenda item 21.

2794
01:12:42,475 --> 01:12:44,245
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

2795
01:12:44,245 --> 01:12:46,245
call the speakers.

2796
01:12:47,114 --> 01:12:49,514
>>clerk, robin stieler: paulina

2797
01:12:51,219 --> 01:12:54,219
alvarez, anna gromas, and jeff

2798
01:12:58,692 --> 01:12:59,993
weaver.

2799
01:12:59,993 --> 01:13:01,129
>>speaker: good morning, chair

2800
01:13:01,129 --> 01:13:03,230
chaffee and members of the

2801
01:13:03,230 --> 01:13:04,650
board. My name is paulina

2802
01:13:04,650 --> 01:13:05,666
alvarez, and I'm the government

2803
01:13:05,666 --> 01:13:07,802
affairs manager for the orange

2804
01:13:07,802 --> 01:13:08,936
county business council. We

2805
01:13:08,936 --> 01:13:10,371
support thoughtful,

2806
01:13:10,371 --> 01:13:11,839
cost-effective, and achievable

2807
01:13:11,839 --> 01:13:14,239
climate policies and appreciates

2808
01:13:14,609 --> 01:13:16,911
the county's efforts to address

2809
01:13:16,911 --> 01:13:18,646
greenhouse gas emissions and

2810
01:13:18,646 --> 01:13:20,982
sustainability. Our concern is

2811
01:13:20,982 --> 01:13:22,650
chapter 4 community climate

2812
01:13:22,650 --> 01:13:25,500
action introduces measures that

2813
01:13:25,486 --> 01:13:27,550
could create uncertainty and

2814
01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:29,550
unintended consequences for

2815
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:30,124
house production, economic

2816
01:13:30,124 --> 01:13:31,726
development and private

2817
01:13:31,726 --> 01:13:33,726
investment in un-incorporated

2818
01:13:34,896 --> 01:13:37,296
areas. Measure cm2 reduce

2819
01:13:37,865 --> 01:13:40,134
vehicles miles travels vmt

2820
01:13:40,134 --> 01:13:41,803
encourages reduction of vmt

2821
01:13:41,803 --> 01:13:43,705
through public outreach and

2822
01:13:43,705 --> 01:13:46,705
incentives. Our concern is vmt

2823
01:13:46,941 --> 01:13:49,941
is already regulated under state

2824
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:53,681
law including sb-743 and ceqa.

2825
01:13:53,681 --> 01:13:55,183
Additional local measures could

2826
01:13:55,183 --> 01:13:57,583
duplicate standards and increase

2827
01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:01,656
entitlement uncertainty and ce1

2828
01:14:01,656 --> 01:14:03,156
promotes building

2829
01:14:03,156 --> 01:14:05,556
decarbonization. The concern is

2830
01:14:06,294 --> 01:14:08,296
it could raise construction

2831
01:14:08,296 --> 01:14:09,397
costs, constrain housing supply

2832
01:14:09,397 --> 01:14:11,397
and complicate private

2833
01:14:11,399 --> 01:14:12,833
development particularly amid

2834
01:14:12,833 --> 01:14:14,335
california's housing

2835
01:14:14,335 --> 01:14:15,970
affordability crisis.

2836
01:14:15,970 --> 01:14:17,472
Incorporating the cap into the

2837
01:14:17,472 --> 01:14:18,373
general plan could

2838
01:14:18,373 --> 01:14:20,373
unintentionally turn

2839
01:14:20,775 --> 01:14:23,100
aspirational goals into binding

2840
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:24,812
land use standards raising

2841
01:14:24,812 --> 01:14:26,848
secret disputes and feasibility

2842
01:14:26,848 --> 01:14:28,450
challenges. Ocbc recommends the

2843
01:14:28,450 --> 01:14:30,151
following, remove chapter 4

2844
01:14:30,151 --> 01:14:32,487
community climate action from

2845
01:14:32,487 --> 01:14:34,890
phase 2, avoid incorporating

2846
01:14:34,890 --> 01:14:35,423
community cap measures into the

2847
01:14:35,423 --> 01:14:36,356
general plan in a way that

2848
01:14:36,356 --> 01:14:38,326
affects private development, and

2849
01:14:38,326 --> 01:14:39,227
focus the cap on county

2850
01:14:39,227 --> 01:14:41,627
operations and facilities to

2851
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:43,665
ensure clarity and legal

2852
01:14:43,665 --> 01:14:45,267
defensibility and

2853
01:14:45,267 --> 01:14:46,568
economic competitiveness. Ocbc

2854
01:14:46,568 --> 01:14:47,736
remains committed to

2855
01:14:47,736 --> 01:14:49,804
collaborating with the county on

2856
01:14:49,804 --> 01:14:50,772
climate strategies that are

2857
01:14:50,772 --> 01:14:52,772
effective, achievable and

2858
01:14:52,873 --> 01:14:54,942
supportive of orange county's

2859
01:14:54,942 --> 01:14:56,745
economy. Thank you for your

2860
01:14:56,745 --> 01:14:58,745
time.

2861
01:14:58,780 --> 01:15:00,582
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2862
01:15:00,582 --> 01:15:02,284
you.

2863
01:15:02,284 --> 01:15:04,684
>>speaker: good morning, chair

2864
01:15:06,721 --> 01:15:09,121
chaffee and supervisors. Anna

2865
01:15:09,658 --> 01:15:10,325
gromas here representing the

2866
01:15:10,325 --> 01:15:12,725
building industry association in

2867
01:15:13,361 --> 01:15:14,562
the orange county chapter. The

2868
01:15:14,562 --> 01:15:15,930
first outline was OCTOBER of

2869
01:15:15,930 --> 01:15:18,800
2025 and the second one being in

2870
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,968
JANUARY of 2026, we still have

2871
01:15:19,968 --> 01:15:22,137
concerns with the cap as it is

2872
01:15:22,137 --> 01:15:23,805
written in chapter 4 is still

2873
01:15:23,805 --> 01:15:25,974
problematic to us. There's a

2874
01:15:25,974 --> 01:15:28,577
lot of combyity that surrounds

2875
01:15:28,577 --> 01:15:31,279
the language on decarbon sayings

2876
01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:32,213
and vmt. We kindly ask that

2877
01:15:32,213 --> 01:15:35,216
that section be omitted from the

2878
01:15:35,216 --> 01:15:36,952
cap. In addition in the

2879
01:15:36,952 --> 01:15:38,787
JANUARY 2026 draft comprehensive

2880
01:15:38,787 --> 01:15:40,388
general plan update that is

2881
01:15:40,388 --> 01:15:41,755
currently out for public review,

2882
01:15:41,755 --> 01:15:43,491
implementation of the cap was

2883
01:15:43,491 --> 01:15:44,626
listed as an action item under

2884
01:15:44,626 --> 01:15:46,393
the resource management elements

2885
01:15:46,393 --> 01:15:47,662
section. The building industry

2886
01:15:47,662 --> 01:15:48,830
is justifiably concerned that

2887
01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:50,431
incorporating the climate action

2888
01:15:50,431 --> 01:15:52,100
plan into the general plan will

2889
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:54,100
unintentionally turn advisory

2890
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:55,770
climate objectives into binding

2891
01:15:55,770 --> 01:15:57,505
land use mandates. When goals

2892
01:15:57,505 --> 01:15:59,708
are elevated into the general

2893
01:15:59,708 --> 01:16:01,243
plan, they assume the same legal

2894
01:16:01,243 --> 01:16:03,545
bhait weight as other general

2895
01:16:03,545 --> 01:16:05,460
plan policies. That the county

2896
01:16:05,460 --> 01:16:07,446
must use when conditioning,

2897
01:16:07,449 --> 01:16:09,849
approving or denying development

2898
01:16:10,185 --> 01:16:11,219
complications. If the cap is

2899
01:16:11,219 --> 01:16:12,788
incorporated into the --

2900
01:16:12,788 --> 01:16:14,220
development applications. If

2901
01:16:14,220 --> 01:16:16,324
the cap is incorporated, there's

2902
01:16:16,324 --> 01:16:18,260
a significant risk that the

2903
01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:19,661
broad, long-term community

2904
01:16:19,661 --> 01:16:21,863
greenhouse gas reduction goals

2905
01:16:21,863 --> 01:16:22,797
could be applied rigidly to

2906
01:16:22,797 --> 01:16:24,797
individual projects without

2907
01:16:25,367 --> 01:16:27,102
consideration or proportionality

2908
01:16:27,102 --> 01:16:28,904
or feasibility. It would switch

2909
01:16:28,904 --> 01:16:30,405
the cap from a planning guide

2910
01:16:30,405 --> 01:16:33,308
into a binding standard of

2911
01:16:33,308 --> 01:16:34,875
review. Developers could be

2912
01:16:34,875 --> 01:16:36,478
required to prove that their

2913
01:16:36,478 --> 01:16:38,878
projects meet community wide

2914
01:16:39,313 --> 01:16:41,617
goals. This creates entitlement

2915
01:16:41,617 --> 01:16:43,117
risks and the potential for ceqa

2916
01:16:43,117 --> 01:16:44,752
disputes over targets that were

2917
01:16:44,752 --> 01:16:45,387
originally meant to be

2918
01:16:45,387 --> 01:16:46,455
aspirational and not mandatory.

2919
01:16:46,455 --> 01:16:48,560
From the beginning the county

2920
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:48,956
indicated that the cap would not

2921
01:16:48,956 --> 01:16:51,126
be applied to private

2922
01:16:51,126 --> 01:16:53,940
development and un-incorporated

2923
01:16:53,940 --> 01:16:54,729
areas. The cap goals should

2924
01:16:54,729 --> 01:16:55,297
remove references to private

2925
01:16:55,297 --> 01:16:55,898
development, should not be

2926
01:16:55,898 --> 01:16:58,298
incorporated into the general

2927
01:16:59,268 --> 01:17:00,969
plan as doing so could turn

2928
01:17:00,969 --> 01:17:02,969
community-wide aspirations into

2929
01:17:03,372 --> 01:17:04,806
inflexible and enforceable

2930
01:17:04,806 --> 01:17:05,540
mandates on individual prisons.

2931
01:17:05,540 --> 01:17:06,408
We thank you for your time and

2932
01:17:06,408 --> 01:17:07,976
consideration, and we look

2933
01:17:07,976 --> 01:17:09,645
forward to continuing our work

2934
01:17:09,645 --> 01:17:10,345
with the county on this

2935
01:17:10,345 --> 01:17:11,213
mattered.

2936
01:17:11,213 --> 01:17:13,613
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2937
01:17:15,684 --> 01:17:16,485
you. Next speaker, please.

2938
01:17:16,485 --> 01:17:18,485
>>speaker: good afternoon,

2939
01:17:18,787 --> 01:17:22,387
board. I'm jeff weaver from san

2940
01:17:22,725 --> 01:17:24,992
juan capistrano, the home of the

2941
01:17:24,992 --> 01:17:26,461
prima desay sha landfill

2942
01:17:26,461 --> 01:17:27,995
problem. We talked last time

2943
01:17:27,995 --> 01:17:30,995
about the massive amount of

2944
01:17:31,934 --> 01:17:36,134
toxic gas that comes out of each

2945
01:17:38,407 --> 01:17:40,274
landfill. The prima landfill is

2946
01:17:40,274 --> 01:17:42,544
located about a mile from san

2947
01:17:42,544 --> 01:17:44,480
juan hills high school. At the

2948
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:46,314
current status before the

2949
01:17:46,314 --> 01:17:48,417
expansion -- and I'd like to get

2950
01:17:48,417 --> 01:17:49,385
some definition. Expansion, we

2951
01:17:49,385 --> 01:17:52,353
talked last time -- or you

2952
01:17:52,353 --> 01:17:54,560
talked to tom petition troll

2953
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,859
liss last time about expansion.

2954
01:17:56,859 --> 01:17:57,893
I think we spent $100 million on

2955
01:17:57,893 --> 01:17:59,528
to so-called expansion. This is

2956
01:17:59,528 --> 01:18:01,630
it. This is what they're

2957
01:18:01,630 --> 01:18:02,430
tearing apart right now. You

2958
01:18:02,430 --> 01:18:03,966
see this from miles away. The

2959
01:18:03,966 --> 01:18:05,433
problem is it's one mile from

2960
01:18:05,433 --> 01:18:07,769
our high school. And the high

2961
01:18:07,769 --> 01:18:10,380
school kids have no choice but

2962
01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:12,308
to breathe this toxic gas. Oc

2963
01:18:12,308 --> 01:18:13,909
waste and recycling and its

2964
01:18:13,909 --> 01:18:15,477
climate action plan calls it

2965
01:18:15,477 --> 01:18:17,646
odor. Well, the way they

2966
01:18:17,646 --> 01:18:20,646
control the odor, they drive

2967
01:18:20,749 --> 01:18:21,684
around and sniff and spray

2968
01:18:21,684 --> 01:18:24,487
febreze type stuff to decrease

2969
01:18:24,487 --> 01:18:26,822
the odor. And doesn't mean

2970
01:18:26,822 --> 01:18:27,690
you're not smelling it. But if

2971
01:18:27,690 --> 01:18:29,291
you're smelling it, it's really

2972
01:18:29,291 --> 01:18:31,560
bad. And these kids are out

2973
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,861
there on the track team or the

2974
01:18:32,861 --> 01:18:34,290
football team, running as hard

2975
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:35,264
as they can, they don't know

2976
01:18:35,264 --> 01:18:36,899
that they're breathing these

2977
01:18:36,899 --> 01:18:38,400
toxic fumes that are

2978
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,400
consistently over 1 million

2979
01:18:41,236 --> 01:18:42,837
cubic feet per day that gets

2980
01:18:42,837 --> 01:18:44,774
released, uncontrolled release

2981
01:18:44,774 --> 01:18:46,842
from this landfill. So that's

2982
01:18:46,842 --> 01:18:50,442
our big concern. And in the

2983
01:18:51,513 --> 01:18:53,616
climate action plan they mandate

2984
01:18:53,616 --> 01:18:54,817
aggressive methane management.

2985
01:18:54,817 --> 01:18:56,852
And all I see in the climate

2986
01:18:56,852 --> 01:18:58,988
action plan are drones. $25

2987
01:18:58,988 --> 01:19:01,190
million for drones. They have a

2988
01:19:01,190 --> 01:19:02,992
thing that says "drones are

2989
01:19:02,992 --> 01:19:04,592
tackling methane gas." I

2990
01:19:04,592 --> 01:19:06,594
watched the super bowl. I saw a

2991
01:19:06,594 --> 01:19:08,164
lot of tackling. I don't know

2992
01:19:08,164 --> 01:19:09,932
how it's even possible for a

2993
01:19:09,932 --> 01:19:12,233
drone to tackle an invisible

2994
01:19:12,233 --> 01:19:14,537
gas. But I like the definition

2995
01:19:14,537 --> 01:19:15,971
on how the drone tackles the

2996
01:19:15,971 --> 01:19:18,307
gas. I'd like the definition on

2997
01:19:18,307 --> 01:19:19,742
how older is a toxic gas and the

2998
01:19:19,742 --> 01:19:20,609
expansion. Is that an

2999
01:19:20,609 --> 01:19:22,144
expansion? It looks like an

3000
01:19:22,144 --> 01:19:23,446
expansion, and there's been over

3001
01:19:23,446 --> 01:19:24,614
$100 million on this expansion.

3002
01:19:24,614 --> 01:19:25,448
This be landfill will be in

3003
01:19:25,448 --> 01:19:27,483
operation for 75 years. It's

3004
01:19:27,483 --> 01:19:29,151
going to be producing this

3005
01:19:29,151 --> 01:19:31,487
methane for over 100 years. But

3006
01:19:31,487 --> 01:19:33,890
the problem is, this methane is

3007
01:19:33,890 --> 01:19:35,825
fuel. If we tap this methane,

3008
01:19:35,825 --> 01:19:38,127
our plan is to cap this

3009
01:19:38,127 --> 01:19:39,896
landfill, tap the landfill and

3010
01:19:39,896 --> 01:19:42,296
produce 20 megawatts of energy

3011
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:45,600
that will power the desal plant

3012
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,536
and the entire city of san juan

3013
01:19:46,536 --> 01:19:48,700
capistrano for the next 100

3014
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:48,871
years. We want to put an

3015
01:19:48,871 --> 01:19:51,107
amendment that you at least look

3016
01:19:51,107 --> 01:19:52,730
at our plan. I've talked to two

3017
01:19:52,730 --> 01:19:54,750
of the staff of the board

3018
01:19:54,750 --> 01:19:54,710
members here -- or the

3019
01:19:54,710 --> 01:19:56,746
supervisors. I've been waiting

3020
01:19:56,746 --> 01:19:58,214
to talk to katrina foley for

3021
01:19:58,214 --> 01:19:59,882
almost two years now, and I met

3022
01:19:59,882 --> 01:20:02,117
with alyssa. I was supposed to

3023
01:20:02,117 --> 01:20:03,318
have a meeting with her. I've

3024
01:20:03,318 --> 01:20:04,453
been waiting two years. But

3025
01:20:04,453 --> 01:20:06,789
until the climate action plan

3026
01:20:06,789 --> 01:20:08,291
came out and environmental

3027
01:20:08,291 --> 01:20:09,992
impact report came out just last

3028
01:20:09,992 --> 01:20:11,728
month, we didn't have a whole

3029
01:20:11,728 --> 01:20:12,794
lot of data to go on. The funny

3030
01:20:12,794 --> 01:20:14,864
thing is the data they're study

3031
01:20:14,864 --> 01:20:15,965
something from 2018 on the gas

3032
01:20:15,965 --> 01:20:17,967
that's released from these

3033
01:20:17,967 --> 01:20:19,802
landfills. 2018. That's the

3034
01:20:19,802 --> 01:20:20,669
current data. I'm sorry -- I'm

3035
01:20:20,669 --> 01:20:22,370
running a little long.

3036
01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:22,671
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3037
01:20:22,671 --> 01:20:23,706
you, sir.

3038
01:20:23,706 --> 01:20:25,708
>>speaker: please someone talk

3039
01:20:25,708 --> 01:20:27,310
to us about this. We have a

3040
01:20:27,310 --> 01:20:28,845
plan, we have engineers.

3041
01:20:28,845 --> 01:20:29,512
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3042
01:20:29,512 --> 01:20:31,512
you, sir.

3043
01:20:31,648 --> 01:20:34,284
>>speaker: we can have our own

3044
01:20:34,284 --> 01:20:35,151
financing and won't cost a dime

3045
01:20:35,151 --> 01:20:37,186
and we can save the kids from

3046
01:20:37,186 --> 01:20:38,888
the poisonous gas at san juan

3047
01:20:38,888 --> 01:20:39,540
hills high school. Please help

3048
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:39,789
us.

3049
01:20:39,789 --> 01:20:41,191
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3050
01:20:41,191 --> 01:20:43,191
supervisor wagner.

3051
01:20:43,426 --> 01:20:46,426
>>don wagner: real quick, we're

3052
01:20:46,462 --> 01:20:48,164
all at the octa board yesterday.

3053
01:20:48,164 --> 01:20:49,632
We had been in discussion about

3054
01:20:49,632 --> 01:20:52,632
one of these climate action

3055
01:20:54,337 --> 01:20:56,339
plans or a plan that carbon come

3056
01:20:56,339 --> 01:20:58,107
up with the ict, how it's

3057
01:20:58,107 --> 01:20:59,375
failing. A newspaper article

3058
01:20:59,375 --> 01:21:00,876
over the weekend, I want to say

3059
01:21:00,876 --> 01:21:04,476
wall street journal, it MAY have

3060
01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:06,515
been somewhere else. It

3061
01:21:06,515 --> 01:21:09,515
explained that the world has

3062
01:21:10,353 --> 01:21:12,655
spent $16 trillion with a "t" --

3063
01:21:12,655 --> 01:21:15,550
trillion dollars on climate

3064
01:21:15,557 --> 01:21:17,193
action plans this and climate

3065
01:21:17,193 --> 01:21:19,229
environmental worries that and

3066
01:21:19,229 --> 01:21:20,430
climate the other thing. And

3067
01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:22,632
we're still spending that money,

3068
01:21:22,632 --> 01:21:24,133
and we aren't really achieving

3069
01:21:24,133 --> 01:21:27,133
anything close to what is

3070
01:21:27,870 --> 01:21:31,470
promised. With we are also not

3071
01:21:32,609 --> 01:21:34,844
seeing the ice melt in the artic

3072
01:21:34,844 --> 01:21:36,846
and the polar bears drowning

3073
01:21:36,846 --> 01:21:38,648
that al gore worried about in

3074
01:21:38,648 --> 01:21:39,515
the '90s when he said we only

3075
01:21:39,515 --> 01:21:41,717
have about 10 more years to fix

3076
01:21:41,717 --> 01:21:43,186
this problem. Anyway, it's a

3077
01:21:43,186 --> 01:21:45,455
long way of saying we've wasted

3078
01:21:45,455 --> 01:21:46,589
an enormous amount of time on

3079
01:21:46,589 --> 01:21:48,124
this. That said, as a realist

3080
01:21:48,124 --> 01:21:49,459
and being in california, I

3081
01:21:49,459 --> 01:21:51,227
recognize we need to have a

3082
01:21:51,227 --> 01:21:54,827
climate action plan in order to

3083
01:21:56,990 --> 01:21:57,800
get the funding that is

3084
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:58,335
absolutely critical to this

3085
01:21:58,335 --> 01:22:00,703
government doing the basic

3086
01:22:00,703 --> 01:22:02,372
function it is needs to do. We

3087
01:22:02,372 --> 01:22:05,541
will not be eligible for grants

3088
01:22:05,541 --> 01:22:06,943
without it. And so I am not

3089
01:22:06,943 --> 01:22:09,212
prepared to vote against the

3090
01:22:09,212 --> 01:22:11,414
entire climate action plan.

3091
01:22:11,414 --> 01:22:12,649
Though, I believe it is a

3092
01:22:12,649 --> 01:22:14,751
grotesque waste of money, it is

3093
01:22:14,751 --> 01:22:17,753
the game the state forces us to

3094
01:22:17,753 --> 01:22:20,753
play. That said, I think

3095
01:22:22,580 --> 01:22:24,560
there's a lot to recommend the

3096
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,560
views of our business champions

3097
01:22:30,834 --> 01:22:32,569
who are here, who recognize that

3098
01:22:32,569 --> 01:22:33,770
business and people being able

3099
01:22:33,770 --> 01:22:36,173
to do business for themselves

3100
01:22:36,173 --> 01:22:38,508
means the government needs to do

3101
01:22:38,508 --> 01:22:40,100
less. We can be smaller and be

3102
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:43,100
more responsive. And that said,

3103
01:22:43,914 --> 01:22:45,381
that is a long way of saying we

3104
01:22:45,381 --> 01:22:47,484
ought to take them at their

3105
01:22:47,484 --> 01:22:49,252
word, we ought to do the minimum

3106
01:22:49,252 --> 01:22:50,687
that we need to do to play the

3107
01:22:50,687 --> 01:22:53,623
game the state forces us to

3108
01:22:53,623 --> 01:22:56,326
play, and with that, I move

3109
01:22:56,326 --> 01:22:58,962
approval the climate action plan

3110
01:22:58,962 --> 01:23:00,697
with the complete removal of

3111
01:23:00,697 --> 01:23:02,697
chapter 4, community climate

3112
01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:04,433
action. That's my motion.

3113
01:23:04,433 --> 01:23:06,433
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3114
01:23:08,205 --> 01:23:10,107
supervisor nguyen.

3115
01:23:10,107 --> 01:23:13,107
>>janet nguyen: sorry. And I'll

3116
01:23:15,770 --> 01:23:17,714
second that. I agree. I mean,

3117
01:23:17,714 --> 01:23:18,548
we do -- I've been in

3118
01:23:18,548 --> 01:23:20,716
sacramento. I've heard all of

3119
01:23:20,716 --> 01:23:22,180
these arguments. I've been in

3120
01:23:22,180 --> 01:23:23,530
many, many hearings as well,

3121
01:23:23,530 --> 01:23:25,422
and, you know, I continue to ask

3122
01:23:25,422 --> 01:23:28,157
the question what has the

3123
01:23:28,157 --> 01:23:29,920
results been for us in

3124
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:30,794
sacramento? And there's never

3125
01:23:30,794 --> 01:23:34,394
been an answer. The answer has

3126
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:36,198
always been, well, we just gotta

3127
01:23:36,198 --> 01:23:38,234
set a very high bar and

3128
01:23:38,234 --> 01:23:39,937
hopefully we'll get there

3129
01:23:39,937 --> 01:23:42,937
eventually. So, I mean, but,

3130
01:23:42,940 --> 01:23:45,274
you know, in the end, we all

3131
01:23:45,274 --> 01:23:46,777
here want -- as a county, want

3132
01:23:46,777 --> 01:23:49,777
to reduce green house gas

3133
01:23:49,780 --> 01:23:51,415
emission. But the goals we

3134
01:23:51,415 --> 01:23:53,750
pursue needs to be in a way that

3135
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:55,510
also preserves the economic

3136
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:57,510
competitiveness, supports job

3137
01:23:57,487 --> 01:23:59,690
creation and also avoids any new

3138
01:23:59,690 --> 01:24:02,900
regulatory uncertainty. And so,

3139
01:24:04,861 --> 01:24:06,563
you know, as drafted, the

3140
01:24:06,563 --> 01:24:07,964
community section raise

3141
01:24:07,964 --> 01:24:09,133
significant concerns because it

3142
01:24:09,133 --> 01:24:12,733
focuses on an area where the

3143
01:24:13,337 --> 01:24:14,437
county has limited jurisdiction,

3144
01:24:14,437 --> 01:24:15,705
including private vehicles,

3145
01:24:15,705 --> 01:24:17,340
privately-owned buildings and

3146
01:24:17,340 --> 01:24:20,340
land use decisions overseen by

3147
01:24:20,477 --> 01:24:24,770
other agency. And I know that

3148
01:24:25,150 --> 01:24:26,516
it says volunteer and

3149
01:24:26,516 --> 01:24:28,916
non-bind -- voluntary and

3150
01:24:29,486 --> 01:24:31,486
non-binding, however, the

3151
01:24:31,755 --> 01:24:33,356
section establishes countywide

3152
01:24:33,356 --> 01:24:33,990
goals without clear

3153
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:35,793
implementation parameters

3154
01:24:35,793 --> 01:24:37,994
creating risk of interpretation

3155
01:24:37,994 --> 01:24:40,994
beyond existing state law. And

3156
01:24:41,131 --> 01:24:42,966
so this action plan is intended

3157
01:24:42,966 --> 01:24:44,968
to outline aspirational goals,

3158
01:24:44,968 --> 01:24:47,270
not just create mandates. So

3159
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:48,806
I'm concerned about that line

3160
01:24:48,806 --> 01:24:51,206
that's becoming very blurry.

3161
01:24:51,909 --> 01:24:54,210
And so, you know, is especially

3162
01:24:54,210 --> 01:24:57,314
if there's a lack of clarity, we

3163
01:24:57,314 --> 01:24:58,782
need -- I mean, what will end up

3164
01:24:58,782 --> 01:25:01,840
is that it will be duplicate, it

3165
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:02,386
will be inconsistent went

3166
01:25:02,386 --> 01:25:04,221
requirements, increase

3167
01:25:04,221 --> 01:25:05,856
developmental costs, add

3168
01:25:05,856 --> 01:25:08,125
uncertainties for businesses and

3169
01:25:08,125 --> 01:25:09,627
housing providers in our

3170
01:25:09,627 --> 01:25:11,561
incorporated areas at a time

3171
01:25:11,561 --> 01:25:12,162
when we need housing to be

3172
01:25:12,162 --> 01:25:14,562
affordable in orange county.

3173
01:25:15,666 --> 01:25:17,134
And the cost of living is

3174
01:25:17,134 --> 01:25:18,702
unbearable. At this point for

3175
01:25:18,702 --> 01:25:21,370
anybody who lives in orange

3176
01:25:21,370 --> 01:25:23,374
county and so we as a county,

3177
01:25:23,374 --> 01:25:26,974
when we set our policy, when

3178
01:25:30,714 --> 01:25:32,416
it's countywide, yes we're

3179
01:25:32,416 --> 01:25:34,816
saying incorporate, but we're

3180
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:39,456
also saying wink-wink,

3181
01:25:39,456 --> 01:25:41,856
countrywide, meaning cities and

3182
01:25:41,892 --> 01:25:43,994
everybody else also have to

3183
01:25:43,994 --> 01:25:46,230
adhere to our mandate,

3184
01:25:46,230 --> 01:25:49,230
countywide. So again, we can't

3185
01:25:50,167 --> 01:25:51,234
have duplicate, you know, areas

3186
01:25:51,234 --> 01:25:53,700
and unintended consequence asks

3187
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:54,772
not really understanding

3188
01:25:54,772 --> 01:25:58,372
where -- what is mandate, what

3189
01:26:02,213 --> 01:26:03,147
is volunteer, as well.

3190
01:26:03,147 --> 01:26:04,148
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3191
01:26:04,148 --> 01:26:04,781
vice-chair foley.

3192
01:26:04,781 --> 01:26:05,182
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

3193
01:26:05,182 --> 01:26:07,182
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.

3194
01:26:07,984 --> 01:26:09,387
You know, I'm not really seeing

3195
01:26:09,387 --> 01:26:10,287
these sections that have been

3196
01:26:10,287 --> 01:26:12,189
referred to in the climate

3197
01:26:12,189 --> 01:26:13,230
action plan itself. So there's

3198
01:26:13,230 --> 01:26:15,526
nothing in the climate action

3199
01:26:15,526 --> 01:26:18,526
plan that mandates anything on

3200
01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:20,664
any private developer. We had

3201
01:26:20,664 --> 01:26:21,832
representatives from the bi a

3202
01:26:21,832 --> 01:26:24,502
and the business council on our

3203
01:26:24,502 --> 01:26:27,205
task force. We've talked to

3204
01:26:27,205 --> 01:26:30,700
them multiple times about this,

3205
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:33,700
and there's no mandates included

3206
01:26:34,545 --> 01:26:37,545
in this climate action plan.

3207
01:26:37,848 --> 01:26:39,216
And then respectfully we cannot

3208
01:26:39,216 --> 01:26:41,518
remove this section that they're

3209
01:26:41,518 --> 01:26:44,422
referring to because we will not

3210
01:26:44,422 --> 01:26:45,756
qualify for any grants. So

3211
01:26:45,756 --> 01:26:48,156
that's the critical component

3212
01:26:49,894 --> 01:26:52,395
here. And if for no other

3213
01:26:52,395 --> 01:26:55,233
reason the roadmap that has been

3214
01:26:55,233 --> 01:26:58,233
created here is to conserve

3215
01:26:58,336 --> 01:26:59,303
costs for the taxpayers, if for

3216
01:26:59,303 --> 01:27:01,739
know other reason, even if you

3217
01:27:01,739 --> 01:27:04,739
don't believe climate change is

3218
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,760
real, the measures, the roadmap,

3219
01:27:09,113 --> 01:27:12,113
the landfill analysis is all

3220
01:27:12,150 --> 01:27:13,250
intended to reduce cost and so

3221
01:27:13,250 --> 01:27:16,250
make us competitive for grants.

3222
01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:17,588
So I will not be supporting the

3223
01:27:17,588 --> 01:27:18,890
motion.

3224
01:27:18,890 --> 01:27:19,824
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3225
01:27:19,824 --> 01:27:21,392
you. Supervisor wagner.

3226
01:27:21,392 --> 01:27:23,694
>>don wagner: I want to respond

3227
01:27:23,694 --> 01:27:27,565
a little bit. The fact that bi

3228
01:27:27,565 --> 01:27:29,670
a and/or ocbc and/or any other

3229
01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:31,335
business groups were in the

3230
01:27:31,335 --> 01:27:33,705
discussions and at the table and

3231
01:27:33,705 --> 01:27:35,206
on the panels and involved here

3232
01:27:35,206 --> 01:27:38,206
doesn't mean that they were

3233
01:27:38,242 --> 01:27:40,344
listened to. And the resulting

3234
01:27:40,344 --> 01:27:42,780
document and their positions on

3235
01:27:42,780 --> 01:27:44,549
it suggest that they weren't

3236
01:27:44,549 --> 01:27:48,749
listened to. And I think we do

3237
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,421
a disservice to -- not just to

3238
01:27:50,421 --> 01:27:52,390
those organizations but to the

3239
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:53,624
vast business community in

3240
01:27:53,624 --> 01:27:56,624
orange county, that is so

3241
01:27:57,495 --> 01:27:59,264
important to us, that has been

3242
01:27:59,264 --> 01:28:02,864
so burdened by just trying to

3243
01:28:03,735 --> 01:28:05,336
exist in this state, that the

3244
01:28:05,336 --> 01:28:06,637
unaffordability issue supervisor

3245
01:28:06,637 --> 01:28:08,973
nguyen raised has come to the

3246
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:11,209
forefront for so many people.

3247
01:28:11,209 --> 01:28:14,809
We aren't doing any favors to

3248
01:28:15,246 --> 01:28:18,490
everyone who is struggling with

3249
01:28:18,490 --> 01:28:20,449
unaffordability by rushing pell

3250
01:28:21,820 --> 01:28:22,453
mel into this and ignoring.

3251
01:28:22,453 --> 01:28:24,889
witness the leerings they sent

3252
01:28:24,889 --> 01:28:26,390
to us. They were at the table,

3253
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:28,226
but they got ignored and felt

3254
01:28:28,226 --> 01:28:29,727
the need to do these letters.

3255
01:28:29,727 --> 01:28:31,296
And that's why, slow it down,

3256
01:28:31,296 --> 01:28:34,198
we'll still get the grants.

3257
01:28:34,198 --> 01:28:38,398
We've got what we need to do,

3258
01:28:38,703 --> 01:28:40,437
the bare minimum in what

3259
01:28:40,437 --> 01:28:43,308
survives my motion, the climate

3260
01:28:43,308 --> 01:28:43,908
action plan, just not this

3261
01:28:43,908 --> 01:28:45,760
unthought-through potentially

3262
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,476
quite damaging section 4. I

3263
01:28:48,780 --> 01:28:49,814
urge support for the motion.

3264
01:28:49,814 --> 01:28:50,281
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3265
01:28:50,281 --> 01:28:50,982
supervisor sarmiento.

3266
01:28:50,982 --> 01:28:52,316
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

3267
01:28:52,316 --> 01:28:54,318
MR. Chair. I see somebody from

3268
01:28:54,318 --> 01:28:57,918
waste and recycling. Is it tara

3269
01:28:58,656 --> 01:28:59,790
that's here? If you could come

3270
01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:01,960
up if you don't mind. And as

3271
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,995
you're coming up, if you could

3272
01:29:03,995 --> 01:29:06,598
answer sort of the question

3273
01:29:06,598 --> 01:29:09,334
buffers, which is what would it

3274
01:29:09,334 --> 01:29:11,350
do -- what would the impact be

3275
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:12,771
from removing this section from

3276
01:29:12,771 --> 01:29:14,172
the climate action plan.

3277
01:29:14,172 --> 01:29:15,807
>>speaker: good morning. I'm

3278
01:29:15,807 --> 01:29:17,776
tara, deputy director of

3279
01:29:17,776 --> 01:29:19,644
sustainability. What would it

3280
01:29:19,644 --> 01:29:21,613
do, to answer your question,

3281
01:29:21,613 --> 01:29:23,314
obviously we brought what we

3282
01:29:23,314 --> 01:29:25,550
thought was, you know, finished

3283
01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:27,520
product. I will say just to

3284
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,287
answer some of the comments that

3285
01:29:29,287 --> 01:29:30,880
were raised, this is not being

3286
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:31,957
included in the general plan.

3287
01:29:31,957 --> 01:29:34,826
There are no plans to put it in

3288
01:29:34,826 --> 01:29:36,270
the general plan at all. Any

3289
01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:38,290
document that's out on the

3290
01:29:38,290 --> 01:29:39,264
general plan right now through

3291
01:29:39,264 --> 01:29:41,132
public works I would encourage

3292
01:29:41,132 --> 01:29:42,500
them to comment on that, as

3293
01:29:42,500 --> 01:29:46,237
well, if there is a reference to

3294
01:29:46,237 --> 01:29:48,380
the cap. Beyond that, the part

3295
01:29:48,380 --> 01:29:49,541
that I would probably be worried

3296
01:29:49,541 --> 01:29:51,176
about losing is the references

3297
01:29:51,176 --> 01:29:53,344
to environmental justice. We

3298
01:29:53,344 --> 01:29:54,913
have a lot of mandates related

3299
01:29:54,913 --> 01:29:57,313
to environmental justice. I'm

3300
01:29:58,583 --> 01:30:02,183
so sorry. And with that said,

3301
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,689
when we go back to tie the cap

3302
01:30:04,689 --> 01:30:06,357
into the ej sections, which you

3303
01:30:06,357 --> 01:30:08,427
know most of the prop 4, 40% of

3304
01:30:08,427 --> 01:30:10,228
that funding is going to ej

3305
01:30:10,228 --> 01:30:11,496
communities, and they literally

3306
01:30:11,496 --> 01:30:13,365
ask if you can tie it back into

3307
01:30:13,365 --> 01:30:15,199
an approved plan or motion. I'm

3308
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:16,835
not saying this guarantees us

3309
01:30:16,835 --> 01:30:19,137
the money, but if it gives us a

3310
01:30:19,137 --> 01:30:21,773
leg up, I would obviously love

3311
01:30:21,773 --> 01:30:23,809
to keep it. With that said,

3312
01:30:23,809 --> 01:30:26,209
it's at your discretion.

3313
01:30:28,113 --> 01:30:29,414
>>vincente sarmiento: so I guess

3314
01:30:29,414 --> 01:30:31,750
the -- sort of the essence of

3315
01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:34,486
your response is that, keeping

3316
01:30:34,486 --> 01:30:36,888
it in will help for future

3317
01:30:36,888 --> 01:30:38,290
funding of projects that --

3318
01:30:38,290 --> 01:30:39,825
>>speaker: I'm trying to just

3319
01:30:39,825 --> 01:30:42,427
gives any leg up that we can

3320
01:30:42,427 --> 01:30:43,228
get, and if there's an ab-39

3321
01:30:43,228 --> 01:30:44,630
mandate that will also include

3322
01:30:44,630 --> 01:30:46,865
environmental justice, that I'm

3323
01:30:46,865 --> 01:30:49,100
hoping that when we bring this

3324
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:49,735
back with the ceqa document we

3325
01:30:49,735 --> 01:30:51,537
will actually cover that report

3326
01:30:51,537 --> 01:30:53,305
that's due. I completely agree,

3327
01:30:53,305 --> 01:30:54,906
there are more mandates and laws

3328
01:30:54,906 --> 01:30:56,742
than we can keep track of at

3329
01:30:56,742 --> 01:30:58,343
this point. So the more we

3330
01:30:58,343 --> 01:31:00,450
could try to cover, like we put

3331
01:31:00,450 --> 01:31:01,613
the climate vulnerability

3332
01:31:01,613 --> 01:31:02,881
assessment in to try to cover

3333
01:31:02,881 --> 01:31:04,515
that state mandate. We are

3334
01:31:04,515 --> 01:31:05,984
trying to make this as

3335
01:31:05,984 --> 01:31:06,651
cost-effective as we can.

3336
01:31:06,651 --> 01:31:08,220
>>vincente sarmiento: is there a

3337
01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:10,210
net benefit from keeping this

3338
01:31:10,210 --> 01:31:11,290
section in for future funding.

3339
01:31:11,290 --> 01:31:13,690
>>speaker: I believe so.

3340
01:31:14,226 --> 01:31:14,693
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you.

3341
01:31:14,693 --> 01:31:15,394
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3342
01:31:15,394 --> 01:31:16,795
supervisor nguyen.

3343
01:31:16,795 --> 01:31:19,195
>>janet nguyen: thank you.

3344
01:31:22,835 --> 01:31:25,837
Tara, can I just foul? -- follow

3345
01:31:25,837 --> 01:31:27,572
up? So it's not -- it's certain

3346
01:31:27,572 --> 01:31:28,173
that we would not get any

3347
01:31:28,173 --> 01:31:28,607
funding.

3348
01:31:28,607 --> 01:31:30,607
>>speaker: no. No.

3349
01:31:30,809 --> 01:31:32,310
>>janet nguyen: because that's

3350
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:33,178
what was stated up here. I

3351
01:31:33,178 --> 01:31:34,312
wanted to make sure that we're

3352
01:31:34,312 --> 01:31:35,514
hearing there's a possibility,

3353
01:31:35,514 --> 01:31:36,881
right. But that's a possibility

3354
01:31:36,881 --> 01:31:40,586
all of our grants and every time

3355
01:31:40,586 --> 01:31:42,788
we apply for any grants through

3356
01:31:42,788 --> 01:31:44,589
the state or the federal, that

3357
01:31:44,589 --> 01:31:48,189
we -- it's competitive and it's,

3358
01:31:48,260 --> 01:31:49,828
you know, it can and cannot --

3359
01:31:49,828 --> 01:31:50,829
we might or might not get it.

3360
01:31:50,829 --> 01:31:52,865
>>speaker: correct. There's no

3361
01:31:52,865 --> 01:31:53,766
guarantee. I think what we're

3362
01:31:53,766 --> 01:31:55,334
trying to do is be as

3363
01:31:55,334 --> 01:31:58,136
cost-effective as we could. But

3364
01:31:58,136 --> 01:32:00,380
if it has to cover ab-39 and has

3365
01:32:00,380 --> 01:32:02,700
to be a component of the general

3366
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,944
plan and we could supply ands

3367
01:32:04,944 --> 01:32:05,744
dies and pull out of this

3368
01:32:05,744 --> 01:32:09,344
document -- slice and dice just

3369
01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:12,618
to pull out of this document to

3370
01:32:12,618 --> 01:32:14,353
save money on reports down the

3371
01:32:14,353 --> 01:32:16,522
road, that is also something we

3372
01:32:16,522 --> 01:32:18,423
would be trying to do. We were

3373
01:32:18,423 --> 01:32:20,358
not trying to mandate anything

3374
01:32:20,358 --> 01:32:22,761
on the community side. We

3375
01:32:22,761 --> 01:32:24,262
worked with bi a quite a bit,

3376
01:32:24,262 --> 01:32:27,333
with adam at the time. We

3377
01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:28,968
really just didn't want to be

3378
01:32:28,968 --> 01:32:30,569
preclueded from having to do

3379
01:32:30,569 --> 01:32:32,170
things like outreach, the mobile

3380
01:32:32,170 --> 01:32:33,739
home parks, projects of that

3381
01:32:33,739 --> 01:32:34,974
nature if an opportunity

3382
01:32:34,974 --> 01:32:37,374
presented itself. We're not

3383
01:32:37,442 --> 01:32:39,110
trying to mandate what type of

3384
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:40,713
boiler, heater. And the nice

3385
01:32:40,713 --> 01:32:42,748
part is we do have to bring this

3386
01:32:42,748 --> 01:32:45,150
back to you with a ceqa document

3387
01:32:45,150 --> 01:32:47,286
if it's approved today so there

3388
01:32:47,286 --> 01:32:49,488
will be time to make adjustments

3389
01:32:49,488 --> 01:32:50,990
that nature, if you think that

3390
01:32:50,990 --> 01:32:51,990
the language implies, that I do

3391
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:54,260
want to correct that.

3392
01:32:54,260 --> 01:32:55,270
>>janet nguyen: I just think it

3393
01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:57,362
makes everybody nervous when

3394
01:32:57,362 --> 01:32:58,898
you're not sure what is

3395
01:32:58,898 --> 01:33:00,299
mandated, what isn't. I mean, a

3396
01:33:00,299 --> 01:33:03,299
lot of times when government

3397
01:33:04,303 --> 01:33:07,303
says it's not mandated, but...

3398
01:33:07,974 --> 01:33:09,441
It is on here, and wink-wink, we

3399
01:33:09,441 --> 01:33:11,276
would really like to you follow

3400
01:33:11,276 --> 01:33:11,510
it. That's what makes everybody

3401
01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:12,544
nervous.

3402
01:33:12,544 --> 01:33:13,446
>>speaker: I agree with their

3403
01:33:13,446 --> 01:33:14,513
concerns on the general plan,

3404
01:33:14,513 --> 01:33:16,281
and the nice part of being one

3405
01:33:16,281 --> 01:33:17,282
of the last counties out of the

3406
01:33:17,282 --> 01:33:20,118
gate is that you get to see what

3407
01:33:20,118 --> 01:33:21,954
happened in other jurisdictions.

3408
01:33:21,954 --> 01:33:23,356
And san diego county, I know

3409
01:33:23,356 --> 01:33:24,756
and L.A. County, did have

3410
01:33:24,756 --> 01:33:27,460
litigation because it was part

3411
01:33:27,460 --> 01:33:28,694
of their general plan, which is

3412
01:33:28,694 --> 01:33:31,300
why I really hope that the board

3413
01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:31,898
does not put it in the general

3414
01:33:31,898 --> 01:33:33,933
plan and avoid that. And I

3415
01:33:33,933 --> 01:33:36,569
think that's where the concerns

3416
01:33:36,569 --> 01:33:38,771
are coming from, from bia. I

3417
01:33:38,771 --> 01:33:40,940
don't want to speak for them,

3418
01:33:40,940 --> 01:33:42,675
but I do not want to put it in

3419
01:33:42,675 --> 01:33:42,942
the general plan unless you feel

3420
01:33:42,942 --> 01:33:44,810
otherwise.

3421
01:33:44,810 --> 01:33:46,412
>>janet nguyen: and I don't want

3422
01:33:46,412 --> 01:33:50,120
to do anything L.A. Does.

3423
01:33:50,316 --> 01:33:51,830
>>speaker: I agree, but we're on

3424
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:51,951
the record.

3425
01:33:51,951 --> 01:33:52,717
>>janet nguyen: thank you.

3426
01:33:52,717 --> 01:33:54,717
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3427
01:33:58,524 --> 01:34:00,524
supervisor wagner.

3428
01:34:00,727 --> 01:34:03,620
>>don wagner: you're back. All

3429
01:34:03,620 --> 01:34:05,531
right. So for a brief shining

3430
01:34:05,531 --> 01:34:07,900
moment, I served on the south

3431
01:34:07,900 --> 01:34:10,202
coast air quality management

3432
01:34:10,202 --> 01:34:11,137
district board, and you and I

3433
01:34:11,137 --> 01:34:13,537
had numerous conversations when

3434
01:34:13,839 --> 01:34:16,909
I was wearing that hat. Now

3435
01:34:16,909 --> 01:34:18,110
supervisor nguyen is honored and

3436
01:34:18,110 --> 01:34:21,470
privileged and I'm sure thrilled

3437
01:34:21,470 --> 01:34:23,115
to serve on that board. In

3438
01:34:23,115 --> 01:34:25,515
those conversations, I remember

3439
01:34:25,585 --> 01:34:27,286
you telling me things like,

3440
01:34:27,286 --> 01:34:30,156
we've got all of these group ins

3441
01:34:30,156 --> 01:34:30,990
out there, but they're for

3442
01:34:30,990 --> 01:34:33,390
specific communities, and we

3443
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:35,495
don't have those communities in

3444
01:34:35,495 --> 01:34:38,495
our county. So when you're

3445
01:34:40,198 --> 01:34:40,934
talking about, well, let's just

3446
01:34:40,934 --> 01:34:41,634
faint towards words

3447
01:34:41,634 --> 01:34:43,268
environmental justice

3448
01:34:43,268 --> 01:34:46,268
communities, et cetera, but at

3449
01:34:47,774 --> 01:34:50,910
the end of the day, most of that

3450
01:34:50,910 --> 01:34:51,844
by design is going to other

3451
01:34:51,844 --> 01:34:53,278
counties because we don't fit

3452
01:34:53,278 --> 01:34:54,814
the criteria. Correct?

3453
01:34:54,814 --> 01:34:56,149
>>speaker: right. I think when

3454
01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:57,550
we were having those

3455
01:34:57,550 --> 01:34:59,950
conversations, we were talking

3456
01:35:00,153 --> 01:35:03,153
about ab-61 exphiefnts. We do

3457
01:35:04,230 --> 01:35:07,527
not. We have no ab-617, which

3458
01:35:07,527 --> 01:35:08,160
are considered the most dire

3459
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,290
under environmental justice, and

3460
01:35:10,290 --> 01:35:11,531
there's only six, and there is

3461
01:35:11,531 --> 01:35:13,132
one in L.A., yes.

3462
01:35:13,132 --> 01:35:14,467
>>don wagner: right. So the

3463
01:35:14,467 --> 01:35:16,802
statutes are written by folks

3464
01:35:16,802 --> 01:35:17,704
from L.A. To benefit L.A.. They

3465
01:35:17,704 --> 01:35:19,806
don't come to orange county.

3466
01:35:19,806 --> 01:35:20,707
And so to stand there and say,

3467
01:35:20,707 --> 01:35:24,307
well, we just need to make

3468
01:35:25,277 --> 01:35:26,879
this -- say these things doesn't

3469
01:35:26,879 --> 01:35:28,982
change the reality on the

3470
01:35:28,982 --> 01:35:30,416
ground. They write the statutes

3471
01:35:30,416 --> 01:35:31,451
to benefit themselves, and we

3472
01:35:31,451 --> 01:35:32,419
have been fighting for funding

3473
01:35:32,419 --> 01:35:34,540
equity. We have been fighting

3474
01:35:34,540 --> 01:35:35,855
for this, that, and the other

3475
01:35:35,855 --> 01:35:36,922
thing and getting nowhere. I

3476
01:35:36,922 --> 01:35:37,857
just lay that out there as maybe

3477
01:35:37,857 --> 01:35:40,159
one of the reasons that we have

3478
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:42,961
to play the game, but we don't

3479
01:35:42,961 --> 01:35:44,396
have to damage our community's

3480
01:35:44,396 --> 01:35:47,396
wholesale to play that game,

3481
01:35:47,534 --> 01:35:49,102
which is what chapter 4 does.

3482
01:35:49,102 --> 01:35:52,702
MS. Walsh, is she in the

3483
01:36:01,314 --> 01:36:02,749
audience and if I MAY...

3484
01:36:02,749 --> 01:36:05,149
All right. You've been

3485
01:36:05,317 --> 01:36:08,788
listening to all of this, and

3486
01:36:08,788 --> 01:36:10,690
I'm going to kind of give -- and

3487
01:36:10,690 --> 01:36:11,557
law school 101, never ask a

3488
01:36:11,557 --> 01:36:13,460
question you don't know the

3489
01:36:13,460 --> 01:36:15,128
answer to. I don't know the

3490
01:36:15,128 --> 01:36:18,128
answer to this. We haven't

3491
01:36:18,865 --> 01:36:22,465
talked. What is your legal view

3492
01:36:25,105 --> 01:36:27,505
of this document, chapter 4.

3493
01:36:27,574 --> 01:36:28,909
What excising chapter 4 would do

3494
01:36:28,909 --> 01:36:30,143
to our availability to get these

3495
01:36:30,143 --> 01:36:31,344
grants under all of these

3496
01:36:31,344 --> 01:36:33,580
different programs. I know

3497
01:36:33,580 --> 01:36:35,815
you've worked on it. I'm hoping

3498
01:36:35,815 --> 01:36:39,820
you might be, if not the expert,

3499
01:36:39,820 --> 01:36:42,220
the sacrificial lamb --

3500
01:36:42,856 --> 01:36:44,958
>>speaker: I think sacrificial

3501
01:36:44,958 --> 01:36:45,959
lamb helps us better at this

3502
01:36:45,959 --> 01:36:47,159
point. I have reviewed it.

3503
01:36:47,159 --> 01:36:48,127
There's a lot of things going on

3504
01:36:48,127 --> 01:36:49,729
here. Just so everybody knows,

3505
01:36:49,729 --> 01:36:50,664
with dough have a comprehensive

3506
01:36:50,664 --> 01:36:52,933
general plan update coming up.

3507
01:36:52,933 --> 01:36:55,736
It is out for public comment. I

3508
01:36:55,736 --> 01:36:58,939
spoke to the woman from the bia

3509
01:36:58,939 --> 01:37:00,374
in the back, and we do have a

3510
01:37:00,374 --> 01:37:01,775
mitigation measure in the

3511
01:37:01,775 --> 01:37:03,510
resource management chapter that

3512
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:05,910
mentions the climate action

3513
01:37:06,713 --> 01:37:08,849
plan. That should be stricken.

3514
01:37:08,849 --> 01:37:09,816
Because we are not making the

3515
01:37:09,816 --> 01:37:13,416
climate action plan part of the

3516
01:37:13,453 --> 01:37:14,454
general plan. In addition our

3517
01:37:14,454 --> 01:37:16,454
comprehensive general plan

3518
01:37:16,590 --> 01:37:18,910
update has to have an

3519
01:37:18,910 --> 01:37:20,910
environmental justice chapter.

3520
01:37:20,927 --> 01:37:22,950
It is does. The chapt draft has

3521
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:23,230
an environmental justice

3522
01:37:23,230 --> 01:37:26,230
chapter. That will be the

3523
01:37:26,366 --> 01:37:28,350
chapter that complies with state

3524
01:37:28,350 --> 01:37:29,503
law because the climate action

3525
01:37:29,503 --> 01:37:31,338
plan is not part of the general

3526
01:37:31,338 --> 01:37:33,507
plan and we are not making it

3527
01:37:33,507 --> 01:37:34,941
part of the general plan, any

3528
01:37:34,941 --> 01:37:36,941
environmental justice

3529
01:37:38,144 --> 01:37:41,744
conversation in the cap will not

3530
01:37:41,981 --> 01:37:44,830
qualify us for anything because

3531
01:37:44,830 --> 01:37:44,818
we are not the doing it as part

3532
01:37:44,818 --> 01:37:47,818
the general plan. The law

3533
01:37:48,221 --> 01:37:50,621
requires that an environmental

3534
01:37:54,294 --> 01:37:57,163
justice chapter be adopted as

3535
01:37:57,163 --> 01:37:57,998
part of the general plan. The

3536
01:37:57,998 --> 01:37:59,666
general plan requires multiple

3537
01:37:59,666 --> 01:38:01,135
hearings, as you all know, and

3538
01:38:01,135 --> 01:38:02,703
that's upcoming. Right now the

3539
01:38:02,703 --> 01:38:04,837
effect of today is that you

3540
01:38:04,837 --> 01:38:06,773
would be approving a plan. This

3541
01:38:06,773 --> 01:38:09,509
is just that you are approving

3542
01:38:09,509 --> 01:38:11,812
sort of the contents of what we

3543
01:38:11,812 --> 01:38:13,313
would move forward with in an

3544
01:38:13,313 --> 01:38:15,713
environmental document for the

3545
01:38:15,783 --> 01:38:17,684
cap. The cap right now as it

3546
01:38:17,684 --> 01:38:18,552
stands before you, even if

3547
01:38:18,552 --> 01:38:20,952
approved today, cannot be

3548
01:38:21,555 --> 01:38:24,900
implemented because there are no

3549
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,690
ceqa findings. So we need to

3550
01:38:28,796 --> 01:38:32,266
move forward with an ier. It is

3551
01:38:32,266 --> 01:38:34,335
my understanding, and tara and I

3552
01:38:34,335 --> 01:38:35,536
haven't talked about this in a

3553
01:38:35,536 --> 01:38:37,905
while, and I was only involved

3554
01:38:37,905 --> 01:38:39,907
in the end just to be clear,

3555
01:38:39,907 --> 01:38:42,307
that the environmental document

3556
01:38:43,344 --> 01:38:44,845
will not cover chapter 4. Okay.

3557
01:38:44,845 --> 01:38:47,845
So that's correct. So what

3558
01:38:49,830 --> 01:38:52,485
that means is that even if you

3559
01:38:52,485 --> 01:38:54,485
adopt chapter 4 today,

3560
01:38:54,721 --> 01:38:56,723
quote/unquote, it is merely a

3561
01:38:56,723 --> 01:38:58,559
planning goal-oriented document.

3562
01:38:58,559 --> 01:39:00,600
It cannot be implemented, and

3563
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,263
even after this when it is

3564
01:39:02,263 --> 01:39:03,998
brought back to you, because the

3565
01:39:03,998 --> 01:39:06,998
eir will not cover chapter 4.

3566
01:39:11,538 --> 01:39:13,874
It cannot be implemented. It

3567
01:39:13,874 --> 01:39:16,877
cannot be -- it's not binding.

3568
01:39:16,877 --> 01:39:18,479
We can't use it as a -- we can't

3569
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:22,679
use it as a baseline for ceqa

3570
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:25,452
documents for residential

3571
01:39:25,452 --> 01:39:28,452
developments. And we can't use

3572
01:39:29,190 --> 01:39:32,190
it to impose mitigation measures

3573
01:39:32,392 --> 01:39:35,992
because an eir will not have

3574
01:39:37,431 --> 01:39:39,166
covered that chapter.

3575
01:39:39,166 --> 01:39:41,268
>>don wagner: so is that a long

3576
01:39:41,268 --> 01:39:42,903
way of saying it won't matter if

3577
01:39:42,903 --> 01:39:45,903
we excise chapter 4, give us

3578
01:39:46,106 --> 01:39:47,608
more time then to have more

3579
01:39:47,608 --> 01:39:48,542
discussions with the

3580
01:39:48,542 --> 01:39:50,744
stakeholders and get something

3581
01:39:50,744 --> 01:39:52,278
that is not only agreeable to

3582
01:39:52,278 --> 01:39:53,748
them, but to the entire board,

3583
01:39:53,748 --> 01:39:55,182
and that we could then move

3584
01:39:55,182 --> 01:39:56,683
forward with?

3585
01:39:56,683 --> 01:39:58,252
>>speaker: I am not sure about

3586
01:39:58,252 --> 01:40:00,652
the funding on chapter 4.

3587
01:40:00,854 --> 01:40:03,157
That's what I'm not sure about.

3588
01:40:03,157 --> 01:40:05,259
In my conversations with the oc

3589
01:40:05,259 --> 01:40:06,928
waste and recycling, the fund

3590
01:40:06,928 --> 01:40:09,196
has been about municipal. So

3591
01:40:09,196 --> 01:40:12,196
that's not chapter 4. But there

3592
01:40:12,300 --> 01:40:15,300
could be funding that implicates

3593
01:40:15,436 --> 01:40:17,836
chapter 4. I honestly don't

3594
01:40:18,339 --> 01:40:20,741
know. I don't know what that

3595
01:40:20,741 --> 01:40:22,376
fund something, and I'm not

3596
01:40:22,376 --> 01:40:25,120
usually involved in that, I'll

3597
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,120
be honest.

3598
01:40:27,214 --> 01:40:29,214
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3599
01:40:30,184 --> 01:40:31,619
vice-chair. Foals you're

3600
01:40:31,619 --> 01:40:34,190
getting everything mixed up

3601
01:40:34,155 --> 01:40:37,155
here. Sorry. But chapter 4 is

3602
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:38,826
not an implementation strategy

3603
01:40:38,826 --> 01:40:39,227
section.

3604
01:40:39,227 --> 01:40:39,827
>>speaker: right.

3605
01:40:39,827 --> 01:40:42,827
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: it

3606
01:40:47,568 --> 01:40:49,770
talks about promoting -- it

3607
01:40:49,770 --> 01:40:52,170
talks about reducing building

3608
01:40:52,206 --> 01:40:53,508
energy, it talks about

3609
01:40:53,508 --> 01:40:55,508
promoting, building

3610
01:40:55,943 --> 01:40:57,478
decarbonization. It talks about

3611
01:40:57,478 --> 01:40:59,478
promoting solar installation.

3612
01:41:02,784 --> 01:41:05,784
It talks about accessible ev

3613
01:41:06,420 --> 01:41:08,420
charge infrastructure. It's

3614
01:41:10,258 --> 01:41:13,258
intend as a non-mandate section

3615
01:41:14,996 --> 01:41:17,398
that covers areas of support.

3616
01:41:17,398 --> 01:41:19,800
So the language in chapter 4

3617
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,800
says the community component of

3618
01:41:24,380 --> 01:41:26,674
the cap does not include binding

3619
01:41:26,674 --> 01:41:28,674
emissions, reductions, targets

3620
01:41:28,676 --> 01:41:30,676
or required implementation

3621
01:41:31,279 --> 01:41:32,814
measures. The community

3622
01:41:32,814 --> 01:41:34,814
component instead proposes

3623
01:41:34,916 --> 01:41:37,316
measures that could reduce

3624
01:41:38,452 --> 01:41:38,786
emissions if undertaken

3625
01:41:38,786 --> 01:41:39,219
voluntarily.

3626
01:41:39,219 --> 01:41:39,820
>>speaker: correct.

3627
01:41:39,820 --> 01:41:41,889
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and

3628
01:41:41,889 --> 01:41:44,993
the reason for this chapter is

3629
01:41:44,993 --> 01:41:48,329
intended so that we could help

3630
01:41:48,329 --> 01:41:50,265
support cities and nonprofits

3631
01:41:50,265 --> 01:41:53,265
and communities like we did

3632
01:41:54,801 --> 01:41:56,570
recently with our trump

3633
01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:58,970
administration epa grant that

3634
01:42:01,642 --> 01:42:03,344
was for our mobile home park

3635
01:42:03,344 --> 01:42:04,279
project in supervisor

3636
01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:06,414
sarmiento's district to install

3637
01:42:06,414 --> 01:42:09,550
solar. So that is what it is

3638
01:42:09,550 --> 01:42:12,550
intended for, is to be

3639
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,623
supportive so that we can help

3640
01:42:15,623 --> 01:42:18,230
those communities to achieve

3641
01:42:18,126 --> 01:42:21,726
grants. And so I think that

3642
01:42:22,597 --> 01:42:24,398
it's getting all confused

3643
01:42:24,398 --> 01:42:26,798
because there's an intentional

3644
01:42:28,102 --> 01:42:30,400
attempt to confuse it, and so

3645
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:34,204
just to be clear, what I heard

3646
01:42:34,275 --> 01:42:36,277
you saying, that is correct is

3647
01:42:36,277 --> 01:42:39,877
that chapter 4 is not a mandate

3648
01:42:40,215 --> 01:42:42,417
that is being channeled into the

3649
01:42:42,417 --> 01:42:44,152
general plan into the

3650
01:42:44,152 --> 01:42:46,152
environmental documentation for

3651
01:42:46,854 --> 01:42:48,623
purpose of development in the

3652
01:42:48,623 --> 01:42:50,792
county un-incorporated area. We

3653
01:42:50,792 --> 01:42:52,994
are not mandating what is

3654
01:42:52,994 --> 01:42:55,430
contained in the section related

3655
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:55,964
to chapter 4. Correct.

3656
01:42:55,964 --> 01:42:57,320
>>speaker: that's correct.

3657
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,167
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

3658
01:42:59,167 --> 01:43:02,167
So the reason for chapter 4,

3659
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:06,808
though is that if we don't have

3660
01:43:06,808 --> 01:43:10,845
chapter 4 we will not be able to

3661
01:43:10,845 --> 01:43:13,140
be as competitive for state

3662
01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:15,414
grants, especially prop 4. And

3663
01:43:16,785 --> 01:43:19,821
that is why we included chapter

3664
01:43:19,821 --> 01:43:21,622
4. And just.

3665
01:43:21,622 --> 01:43:24,622
Ly, we didn't ignore anyone.

3666
01:43:25,660 --> 01:43:27,662
We've had many, many

3667
01:43:27,662 --> 01:43:29,330
conversations. The concern is

3668
01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:30,599
understood, and that's why I've

3669
01:43:30,599 --> 01:43:32,567
said every single meeting over

3670
01:43:32,567 --> 01:43:35,903
the past year and a half these

3671
01:43:35,903 --> 01:43:37,380
are not mandates; these are how

3672
01:43:37,380 --> 01:43:39,340
the county creates a roadmap for

3673
01:43:39,340 --> 01:43:40,750
how we manage our own buildings,

3674
01:43:40,750 --> 01:43:41,743
especially our landfills. We

3675
01:43:41,743 --> 01:43:43,712
have three landfills that are

3676
01:43:43,712 --> 01:43:44,679
creating the most carbon

3677
01:43:44,679 --> 01:43:47,182
emissions for -- you know,

3678
01:43:47,182 --> 01:43:49,184
that's our main carbon emitter,

3679
01:43:49,184 --> 01:43:50,852
is our landfills. The priority

3680
01:43:50,852 --> 01:43:52,387
will be focused on reducing the

3681
01:43:52,387 --> 01:43:55,190
landfill emissions and our own

3682
01:43:55,190 --> 01:43:56,924
county building, saving taxpayer

3683
01:43:56,924 --> 01:43:57,692
funds by reduce energy costs.

3684
01:43:57,692 --> 01:43:58,226
Thank you.

3685
01:43:58,226 --> 01:44:00,261
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

3686
01:44:00,261 --> 01:44:02,130
right. One more time, I'm going

3687
01:44:02,130 --> 01:44:03,732
to go around and make a comment

3688
01:44:03,732 --> 01:44:05,967
of my own and call for a vote if

3689
01:44:05,967 --> 01:44:08,303
I MAY. Supervisor wagner.

3690
01:44:08,303 --> 01:44:11,473
>>don wagner: I'll just be real

3691
01:44:11,473 --> 01:44:13,108
brief. Weigh heard was chapter

3692
01:44:13,108 --> 01:44:15,210
4 -- what I heard was chapter 4

3693
01:44:15,210 --> 01:44:17,546
is not about grants, from our

3694
01:44:17,546 --> 01:44:19,946
lawyer. That's in municipal.

3695
01:44:20,810 --> 01:44:22,481
And therefore the grants

3696
01:44:22,985 --> 01:44:26,388
argument is sort of a red

3697
01:44:26,388 --> 01:44:28,923
herring as it applies to chapter

3698
01:44:28,923 --> 01:44:30,324
4.

3699
01:44:30,324 --> 01:44:31,460
>>speaker: I think I said -- I'm

3700
01:44:31,460 --> 01:44:33,195
not sure about all of the grants

3701
01:44:33,195 --> 01:44:36,195
that could result from chapter

3702
01:44:36,465 --> 01:44:37,599
4. So we do have -- if it's an

3703
01:44:37,599 --> 01:44:38,900
environmental justice grant,

3704
01:44:38,900 --> 01:44:40,502
because there was discussion

3705
01:44:40,502 --> 01:44:41,303
about environmental justice, we

3706
01:44:41,303 --> 01:44:43,171
have a specified chapter hear

3707
01:44:43,171 --> 01:44:45,940
that will meet the requirements

3708
01:44:45,940 --> 01:44:47,276
of the general plan in our draft

3709
01:44:47,276 --> 01:44:49,778
general plan. There could be

3710
01:44:49,778 --> 01:44:50,110
other grants. I'm not an

3711
01:44:50,110 --> 01:44:51,914
expert.

3712
01:44:51,914 --> 01:44:54,314
>>don wagner: chapter 4 intnt

3713
01:44:56,418 --> 01:44:57,553
grants, correct?

3714
01:44:57,553 --> 01:45:00,553
>>speaker: I think you're asking

3715
01:45:03,491 --> 01:45:06,395
me a question -- I'm -- chapter

3716
01:45:06,395 --> 01:45:09,395
4 is not about grants because

3717
01:45:10,232 --> 01:45:13,232
chapter 4 is a cap for

3718
01:45:13,801 --> 01:45:15,170
community, you know, ghg goals.

3719
01:45:15,170 --> 01:45:15,704
>>don wagner: thank you.

3720
01:45:15,704 --> 01:45:16,438
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

3721
01:45:16,438 --> 01:45:18,707
right. I'll make my own

3722
01:45:18,707 --> 01:45:21,707
comment. I dweebt to remove

3723
01:45:22,430 --> 01:45:24,313
chapter 4. The meeting is held

3724
01:45:24,313 --> 01:45:25,213
in my district. I saw

3725
01:45:25,213 --> 01:45:27,383
tremendous enthusiasm from my be

3726
01:45:27,383 --> 01:45:29,783
constituents. There was no

3727
01:45:29,884 --> 01:45:32,788
objection to these things being

3728
01:45:32,788 --> 01:45:35,923
objected to. I read the bia

3729
01:45:35,923 --> 01:45:37,259
letter. I kind of thought, how

3730
01:45:37,259 --> 01:45:38,860
does that even relate to the

3731
01:45:38,860 --> 01:45:40,962
document? It seemed like a

3732
01:45:40,962 --> 01:45:41,964
misfire. Because when I read

3733
01:45:41,964 --> 01:45:44,299
the document, there's nothing

3734
01:45:44,299 --> 01:45:45,800
binding that would even slightly

3735
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,202
impact came a building trade.

3736
01:45:48,202 --> 01:45:50,239
So my -- I'm going to vote no on

3737
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:51,307
the motion. And at this time,

3738
01:45:51,307 --> 01:45:52,841
I'd think I'd ask the clerk to

3739
01:45:52,841 --> 01:45:54,176
call the roll.

3740
01:45:54,176 --> 01:45:56,176
>>clerk, robin stieler:

3741
01:45:57,913 --> 01:45:58,147
supervisor wagner. Supervisor

3742
01:45:58,147 --> 01:45:59,715
nguyen.

3743
01:45:59,715 --> 01:46:01,715
>>janet nguyen: yes.

3744
01:46:02,350 --> 01:46:03,952
>>clerk, robin stieler:

3745
01:46:03,952 --> 01:46:04,853
supervisor sarmiento, vices

3746
01:46:04,853 --> 01:46:06,321
chair foley.

3747
01:46:06,321 --> 01:46:06,889
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no.

3748
01:46:06,889 --> 01:46:07,255
>>clerk, robin stieler: and

3749
01:46:07,255 --> 01:46:08,723
chair chaffee.

3750
01:46:08,723 --> 01:46:10,920
>>chair, doug chaffee: no. I

3751
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:11,894
think I will make a motion that

3752
01:46:11,894 --> 01:46:14,262
we approve the climate action

3753
01:46:14,262 --> 01:46:15,430
plan including chapter 4.

3754
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:15,664
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

3755
01:46:15,664 --> 01:46:16,465
second.

3756
01:46:16,465 --> 01:46:17,233
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,

3757
01:46:17,233 --> 01:46:18,670
MAY I --

3758
01:46:18,670 --> 01:46:19,568
>>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

3759
01:46:19,568 --> 01:46:22,300
motion on the floor. Now we can

3760
01:46:22,300 --> 01:46:22,772
discuss it. Supervisor wagner.

3761
01:46:22,772 --> 01:46:24,139
>>don wagner: I was just going

3762
01:46:24,139 --> 01:46:27,739
to ask the chair, given the

3763
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:28,810
natural division in the

3764
01:46:28,810 --> 01:46:30,346
question, to divide chapter 4

3765
01:46:30,346 --> 01:46:32,648
out so that we can vote on the

3766
01:46:32,648 --> 01:46:34,250
bulk of the climate action plan

3767
01:46:34,250 --> 01:46:35,830
and chapter 4 separately.

3768
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:37,687
>>chair, doug chaffee: I would

3769
01:46:37,687 --> 01:46:38,620
be agree tonight bifurcating if

3770
01:46:38,620 --> 01:46:42,224
that's agreeable -- I see a lot

3771
01:46:42,224 --> 01:46:43,893
of nodding. Let's -- let me

3772
01:46:43,893 --> 01:46:45,560
restate the motion, that we

3773
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,863
consider the plan without

3774
01:46:47,863 --> 01:46:50,499
chapter 4, and we'll come back

3775
01:46:50,499 --> 01:46:52,499
and consider chapter 4

3776
01:46:53,836 --> 01:46:54,700
separately. MAY I have a

3777
01:46:54,700 --> 01:46:56,700
second?

3778
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:01,100
>>janet nguyen: I'll second it.

3779
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:02,578
>>chair, doug chaffee: the

3780
01:47:02,578 --> 01:47:04,800
motion is everything but chapter

3781
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,800
4.

3782
01:47:07,820 --> 01:47:09,952
Is there any objection to

3783
01:47:09,952 --> 01:47:10,953
that. So the plan to chapter 4

3784
01:47:10,953 --> 01:47:12,455
is now approved. I'll make a

3785
01:47:12,455 --> 01:47:13,122
motion that chapter 4 be

3786
01:47:13,122 --> 01:47:13,855
included in the plan.

3787
01:47:13,855 --> 01:47:14,890
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

3788
01:47:14,890 --> 01:47:14,790
second.

3789
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:16,392
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

3790
01:47:16,392 --> 01:47:17,960
seconded. Now we can talk

3791
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,129
separately about chapter 4 if

3792
01:47:20,129 --> 01:47:20,362
anyone cares. Supervisor

3793
01:47:20,362 --> 01:47:21,430
nguyen.

3794
01:47:21,430 --> 01:47:23,765
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

3795
01:47:23,765 --> 01:47:26,765
MR. CHAIRMAN. If you would

3796
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,104
consider for chapter 4 is just

3797
01:47:29,104 --> 01:47:32,104
removing two sections of it.

3798
01:47:32,341 --> 01:47:35,941
Which is measure c, dash e-1,

3799
01:47:36,244 --> 01:47:39,244
which sets the building decarbon

3800
01:47:40,783 --> 01:47:42,551
sayings targets that while is

3801
01:47:42,551 --> 01:47:43,920
labor voluntary, it could be

3802
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,220
interpreted as future policy

3803
01:47:46,220 --> 01:47:47,623
commitments and could contblict

3804
01:47:47,623 --> 01:47:50,623
state building codes and utility

3805
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,560
programs. Building retrofit

3806
01:47:53,663 --> 01:47:54,597
expectation MAY increase costs

3807
01:47:54,597 --> 01:47:56,597
and operational challenges,

3808
01:47:56,699 --> 01:47:59,990
especially for small businesses

3809
01:47:59,235 --> 01:48:01,635
and older buildings. So

3810
01:48:02,905 --> 01:48:05,174
removing measure c-e1, and the

3811
01:48:05,174 --> 01:48:08,774
second one I'm asking you to

3812
01:48:09,979 --> 01:48:12,379
consider is removing measure

3813
01:48:13,916 --> 01:48:16,316
c-m2 which establishes the

3814
01:48:17,653 --> 01:48:19,653
vehicle mileage travel

3815
01:48:20,890 --> 01:48:22,992
reduction. That targets -- it's

3816
01:48:22,992 --> 01:48:25,392
largely outside the county's

3817
01:48:26,290 --> 01:48:29,290
direct control, and really could

3818
01:48:29,980 --> 01:48:30,533
negatively impact our business

3819
01:48:30,533 --> 01:48:32,801
access workforce mobility and

3820
01:48:32,801 --> 01:48:34,403
goods movement. So referencing

3821
01:48:34,403 --> 01:48:35,905
to come to this, it would

3822
01:48:35,905 --> 01:48:37,540
introduce land use policy

3823
01:48:37,540 --> 01:48:39,642
directions through a climate

3824
01:48:39,642 --> 01:48:42,642
plan rather than utilizing an

3825
01:48:43,579 --> 01:48:45,248
established plan in process.

3826
01:48:45,248 --> 01:48:46,182
Vmt has been in discussion in

3827
01:48:46,182 --> 01:48:49,719
sacramento since I was up there

3828
01:48:49,719 --> 01:48:52,719
for probably the full decade,

3829
01:48:53,522 --> 01:48:55,158
and so I think that we here at

3830
01:48:55,158 --> 01:48:57,558
county shouldn't be including

3831
01:48:58,895 --> 01:49:01,197
that in our section. And so if

3832
01:49:01,197 --> 01:49:03,597
you would consider removing

3833
01:49:04,100 --> 01:49:07,700
those two, I can support the

3834
01:49:14,911 --> 01:49:16,513
rest of chapter 4.

3835
01:49:16,513 --> 01:49:17,446
>>chair, doug chaffee: can I be

3836
01:49:17,446 --> 01:49:21,460
clear where that's in the plan.

3837
01:49:21,951 --> 01:49:22,151
>>janet nguyen: so c-e1, which

3838
01:49:22,151 --> 01:49:22,752
is --

3839
01:49:22,752 --> 01:49:23,586
>>chair, doug chaffee: you can

3840
01:49:23,586 --> 01:49:26,586
give me a page number.

3841
01:49:30,226 --> 01:49:30,927
>>janet nguyen: page 95.

3842
01:49:30,927 --> 01:49:32,295
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3843
01:49:32,295 --> 01:49:32,929
you. Vice change comments.

3844
01:49:32,929 --> 01:49:35,164
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

3845
01:49:35,164 --> 01:49:38,164
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I need

3846
01:49:38,367 --> 01:49:40,270
change my vote on the prior

3847
01:49:40,270 --> 01:49:41,904
because I want to be against the

3848
01:49:41,904 --> 01:49:43,473
cap. The way that the vote got

3849
01:49:43,473 --> 01:49:45,742
set up, I voted against the

3850
01:49:45,742 --> 01:49:46,543
climate action plan, which

3851
01:49:46,543 --> 01:49:47,344
obviously I don't want to do

3852
01:49:47,344 --> 01:49:49,440
that because I spent two years

3853
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:51,781
of my life helping to develop

3854
01:49:51,781 --> 01:49:53,490
it. So I need to change my vote

3855
01:49:53,490 --> 01:49:55,819
to a yes on the original motion.

3856
01:49:55,819 --> 01:49:58,120
I just was not in favor of

3857
01:49:58,120 --> 01:49:59,422
removing chapter 4.

3858
01:49:59,422 --> 01:50:00,423
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll move

3859
01:50:00,423 --> 01:50:03,423
to reconsider the initial vote

3860
01:50:03,459 --> 01:50:05,280
on the balance of the cap plan

3861
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:06,296
without chapter 4.

3862
01:50:06,296 --> 01:50:07,297
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

3863
01:50:07,297 --> 01:50:07,898
you. Second.

3864
01:50:07,898 --> 01:50:10,898
>>chair, doug chaffee: wait a

3865
01:50:11,935 --> 01:50:15,438
minute. I got lost in all that.

3866
01:50:15,438 --> 01:50:15,839
We're talking separately about

3867
01:50:15,839 --> 01:50:16,472
the -- chapter 4.

3868
01:50:16,472 --> 01:50:18,108
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

3869
01:50:18,108 --> 01:50:20,508
understand. But the original

3870
01:50:21,110 --> 01:50:22,512
motion was the climate action

3871
01:50:22,512 --> 01:50:24,447
plan without chapter 4, which I

3872
01:50:24,447 --> 01:50:27,500
voted against. But now because

3873
01:50:27,500 --> 01:50:29,252
of how it got set up, now I'm

3874
01:50:29,252 --> 01:50:31,788
against the cap as a result,

3875
01:50:31,788 --> 01:50:34,788
because you just added the

3876
01:50:34,791 --> 01:50:37,191
chapter 4 into the original

3877
01:50:37,227 --> 01:50:39,429
motion. So it made it so that I

3878
01:50:39,429 --> 01:50:41,164
voted against the cap, not

3879
01:50:41,164 --> 01:50:41,531
intentionally.

3880
01:50:41,531 --> 01:50:42,499
Unintentionally.

3881
01:50:42,499 --> 01:50:43,566
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I

3882
01:50:43,566 --> 01:50:46,566
didn't interpret it that way.

3883
01:50:47,704 --> 01:50:50,106
We simply voted for the plan

3884
01:50:50,106 --> 01:50:51,400
itself. Clearly, I thought with

3885
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,343
the understanding that we would

3886
01:50:53,343 --> 01:50:55,343
consider adding chapter 4

3887
01:50:55,779 --> 01:50:55,979
separately. That's what we're

3888
01:50:55,979 --> 01:50:57,146
doing.

3889
01:50:57,146 --> 01:50:58,582
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

3890
01:50:58,582 --> 01:51:00,784
can I just re --- I would like

3891
01:51:00,784 --> 01:51:01,785
to vote in favor of the original

3892
01:51:01,785 --> 01:51:04,721
motion because I want to be in

3893
01:51:04,721 --> 01:51:06,122
favor of the cap.

3894
01:51:06,122 --> 01:51:06,390
>>chair, doug chaffee: of

3895
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:07,624
chapter 4.

3896
01:51:07,624 --> 01:51:09,359
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

3897
01:51:09,359 --> 01:51:10,460
support chapter 4. I support

3898
01:51:10,460 --> 01:51:11,628
the whole cap as presented.

3899
01:51:11,628 --> 01:51:14,300
>>chair, doug chaffee: so you

3900
01:51:14,300 --> 01:51:15,599
don't support the bifurcation;

3901
01:51:15,599 --> 01:51:18,902
is that what it is, where we

3902
01:51:18,902 --> 01:51:19,936
separated chapter 4 from the

3903
01:51:19,936 --> 01:51:21,936
plan?

3904
01:51:22,339 --> 01:51:24,400
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

3905
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,210
support -- I did not support

3906
01:51:27,210 --> 01:51:29,212
removing chapter 4. And I'm

3907
01:51:29,212 --> 01:51:30,914
just trying to make sure my vote

3908
01:51:30,914 --> 01:51:33,917
is in favor of the cap. I'm not

3909
01:51:33,917 --> 01:51:34,117
sure what we voted that the

3910
01:51:34,117 --> 01:51:34,918
point.

3911
01:51:34,918 --> 01:51:37,187
>>chair, doug chaffee: why don't

3912
01:51:37,187 --> 01:51:40,787
we restate the motion, if that's

3913
01:51:41,591 --> 01:51:43,494
where we're at, that we simply

3914
01:51:43,494 --> 01:51:44,795
approve the plan as presented,

3915
01:51:44,795 --> 01:51:45,629
including chapter 4. Is that

3916
01:51:45,629 --> 01:51:47,629
where you're at.

3917
01:51:48,231 --> 01:51:48,532
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

3918
01:51:48,532 --> 01:51:50,166
Second.

3919
01:51:50,166 --> 01:51:50,333
>>janet nguyen: we bifurcated

3920
01:51:50,333 --> 01:51:51,468
it.

3921
01:51:51,468 --> 01:51:52,369
>>chair, doug chaffee: I know.

3922
01:51:52,369 --> 01:51:54,671
But I think the result is the

3923
01:51:54,671 --> 01:51:57,841
same if we -- if you move

3924
01:51:57,841 --> 01:51:59,943
chapter 4 into the plan.

3925
01:51:59,943 --> 01:52:02,245
>>vincente sarmiento: I think

3926
01:52:02,245 --> 01:52:03,147
the vice-chair simply wants to

3927
01:52:03,147 --> 01:52:05,182
revote on the first part of the

3928
01:52:05,182 --> 01:52:07,384
bifurcation, which is on the

3929
01:52:07,384 --> 01:52:08,585
plan without chapter 4, because

3930
01:52:08,585 --> 01:52:10,120
she voted no and wants to vote

3931
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:11,520
in favor of it.

3932
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,424
>>janet nguyen: so in other

3933
01:52:14,424 --> 01:52:17,424
words, what I'm hearing, MADAM

3934
01:52:17,661 --> 01:52:17,994
Vice-chair, that we just need to

3935
01:52:17,994 --> 01:52:19,229
reconsider --

3936
01:52:19,229 --> 01:52:20,797
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: is

3937
01:52:20,797 --> 01:52:22,399
there a way to clear the board?

3938
01:52:22,399 --> 01:52:25,399
>>chair, doug chaffee: we can

3939
01:52:26,202 --> 01:52:26,937
make a notion reconsider. Ask

3940
01:52:26,937 --> 01:52:28,939
counsel to clarify, if he can.

3941
01:52:28,939 --> 01:52:31,841
>>leon page: I think typically

3942
01:52:31,841 --> 01:52:33,710
the board is allowable of these

3943
01:52:33,710 --> 01:52:34,311
kinds of requests. And I think

3944
01:52:34,311 --> 01:52:36,800
there's just unanimous support

3945
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:37,748
for the climate action plan

3946
01:52:37,748 --> 01:52:39,748
without chapter 4.

3947
01:52:39,817 --> 01:52:40,550
>>chair, doug chaffee: yes

3948
01:52:40,550 --> 01:52:42,319
paidgesz all of the members

3949
01:52:42,319 --> 01:52:43,754
support that. The controversy

3950
01:52:43,754 --> 01:52:45,189
concerns chapter 4, and I think

3951
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:46,590
that's where the board had the

3952
01:52:46,590 --> 01:52:48,359
division of the vote, and now

3953
01:52:48,359 --> 01:52:49,994
there's been a request by

3954
01:52:49,994 --> 01:52:52,296
supervisor nguyen to remove two

3955
01:52:52,296 --> 01:52:53,300
action items in chapter 4.

3956
01:52:53,300 --> 01:52:54,531
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

3957
01:52:54,531 --> 01:52:54,798
that's not answering the

3958
01:52:54,798 --> 01:52:56,000
questions.

3959
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,168
>>leon page: I think the clerk

3960
01:52:58,168 --> 01:53:00,604
can record that all five members

3961
01:53:00,604 --> 01:53:01,872
support the climate action plan

3962
01:53:01,872 --> 01:53:02,907
without chapter 4. And that's

3963
01:53:02,907 --> 01:53:05,109
what I think supervisor foley is

3964
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:07,243
trying to get to. Supervisor

3965
01:53:07,243 --> 01:53:08,946
foley also supports chapter 4,

3966
01:53:08,946 --> 01:53:09,914
and that's where we will

3967
01:53:09,914 --> 01:53:10,781
eventually end up.

3968
01:53:10,781 --> 01:53:10,948
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

3969
01:53:10,948 --> 01:53:12,948
you.

3970
01:53:16,620 --> 01:53:17,254
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So

3971
01:53:17,254 --> 01:53:19,523
I'm going to stand by the

3972
01:53:19,523 --> 01:53:20,523
bifurcation, and we're now

3973
01:53:20,523 --> 01:53:22,923
considering chapter 4 as part

3974
01:53:24,428 --> 01:53:24,628
the climb ate -- climate action

3975
01:53:24,628 --> 01:53:25,362
plan.

3976
01:53:25,362 --> 01:53:26,960
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yep.

3977
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:27,498
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

3978
01:53:27,498 --> 01:53:29,898
right. Any further discussion

3979
01:53:30,601 --> 01:53:31,335
on that or shall we call another

3980
01:53:31,335 --> 01:53:33,537
roll at this point.

3981
01:53:33,537 --> 01:53:36,537
>>janet nguyen: I'm so confused.

3982
01:53:36,806 --> 01:53:39,806
I'm sorry. I'm confused. So

3983
01:53:43,513 --> 01:53:46,416
our original vote for 81, the

3984
01:53:46,416 --> 01:53:48,719
climate action plan without 4,

3985
01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:49,720
was 4/1.

3986
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,921
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: it's

3987
01:53:51,921 --> 01:53:52,857
now 5-0. And then he added back

3988
01:53:52,857 --> 01:53:55,660
in chapter 4, and you've asked

3989
01:53:55,660 --> 01:53:56,460
for changes to chapter 4, which

3990
01:53:56,460 --> 01:53:58,950
there isn't support in the maker

3991
01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:59,630
of the motion for that.

3992
01:53:59,630 --> 01:54:01,999
>>janet nguyen: so the new vote

3993
01:54:01,999 --> 01:54:02,533
is just on chapter 4 then.

3994
01:54:02,533 --> 01:54:04,933
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

3995
01:54:11,875 --> 01:54:16,750
adding it in -- so it's page 65

3996
01:54:18,490 --> 01:54:18,316
in also page 100.. I'm

3997
01:54:18,316 --> 01:54:20,316
asking --

3998
01:54:21,185 --> 01:54:22,653
>>janet nguyen: also on page

3999
01:54:22,653 --> 01:54:24,288
100, I'm asking you to consider

4000
01:54:24,288 --> 01:54:25,790
moving these two items off of

4001
01:54:25,790 --> 01:54:28,790
chapter 4 and I will be

4002
01:54:35,660 --> 01:54:36,166
supporting the rest.

4003
01:54:36,166 --> 01:54:37,401
>>chair, doug chaffee: are there

4004
01:54:37,401 --> 01:54:41,100
any other comments? I see the

4005
01:54:42,606 --> 01:54:44,410
point that you're making on e1.

4006
01:54:44,410 --> 01:54:44,241
I didn't read the next page,

4007
01:54:44,241 --> 01:54:46,241
but...

4008
01:54:46,410 --> 01:54:49,410
>>janet nguyen: page 100 is the

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01:55:09,567 --> 01:55:11,567
vehicles miles travel.

4010
01:55:11,703 --> 01:55:14,703
>>chair, doug chaffee: that one

4011
01:55:14,872 --> 01:55:17,750
I would be supportive of

4012
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:20,100
removing, c-e3, but not the

4013
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:21,512
other one, I think that has some

4014
01:55:21,512 --> 01:55:24,512
advantage. It's just a planning

4015
01:55:26,150 --> 01:55:28,553
consideration. That one. And I

4016
01:55:28,553 --> 01:55:29,420
think -- bifurcation to me is an

4017
01:55:29,420 --> 01:55:31,420
economic consideration.

4018
01:55:34,124 --> 01:55:34,324
>>janet nguyen: so c-e1 is

4019
01:55:34,324 --> 01:55:34,992
the --

4020
01:55:34,992 --> 01:55:37,392
>>chair, doug chaffee: isn't

4021
01:55:38,662 --> 01:55:40,865
that on -- that's 97, sorry.

4022
01:55:40,865 --> 01:55:41,532
>>janet nguyen: 95.

4023
01:55:41,532 --> 01:55:43,932
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

4024
01:55:44,468 --> 01:55:46,304
sorry. E1 on page 95, I would

4025
01:55:46,304 --> 01:55:46,537
be agreeable that that be

4026
01:55:46,537 --> 01:55:48,537
removed.

4027
01:55:52,510 --> 01:55:55,510
>>janet nguyen: what about c-m2?

4028
01:56:01,719 --> 01:56:03,154
, which is page 100.

4029
01:56:03,154 --> 01:56:04,122
>>chair, doug chaffee: no. I

4030
01:56:04,122 --> 01:56:06,123
think that's okay. I would

4031
01:56:06,123 --> 01:56:07,759
leave that. But I think the

4032
01:56:07,759 --> 01:56:10,127
electrification goes with the

4033
01:56:10,127 --> 01:56:11,596
concept of all electric water

4034
01:56:11,596 --> 01:56:15,196
heaters and all that kind of

4035
01:56:17,735 --> 01:56:18,970
stuff that made no sense.

4036
01:56:18,970 --> 01:56:20,710
.

4037
01:56:20,710 --> 01:56:21,639
So I think electrification is

4038
01:56:21,639 --> 01:56:23,108
more of an economic concept to

4039
01:56:23,108 --> 01:56:25,410
me. Not necessarily a climate

4040
01:56:25,410 --> 01:56:25,844
one. You get there through

4041
01:56:25,844 --> 01:56:26,945
economics, I think.

4042
01:56:26,945 --> 01:56:29,114
>>janet nguyen: but remember,

4043
01:56:29,114 --> 01:56:32,160
MR. CHAIRMAN, the vehicles miles

4044
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,416
travel is also economic.

4045
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,390
Currently those who has gas car

4046
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:40,158
paying gas taxes. While those

4047
01:56:40,158 --> 01:56:43,758
who has electric cars are not

4048
01:56:45,129 --> 01:56:47,532
paying the tax -- the gas tax.

4049
01:56:47,532 --> 01:56:49,660
And what you're going to end up

4050
01:56:49,660 --> 01:56:51,970
with is when we implement

4051
01:56:51,970 --> 01:56:54,370
statewide vehicles miles travel,

4052
01:56:55,106 --> 01:56:57,542
which means those whoa has gas

4053
01:56:57,542 --> 01:57:00,611
car would not only be paying

4054
01:57:00,611 --> 01:57:01,579
sales tax on the gasoline

4055
01:57:01,579 --> 01:57:03,782
they're pumping into their car,

4056
01:57:03,782 --> 01:57:05,317
but they're also now going to be

4057
01:57:05,317 --> 01:57:07,840
paying vehicles miles travel

4058
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:08,553
while the electrical cars folks

4059
01:57:08,553 --> 01:57:10,688
are only paying for the vehicles

4060
01:57:10,688 --> 01:57:13,758
miles travel and not the gas

4061
01:57:13,758 --> 01:57:16,761
sales tax. So I think it's also

4062
01:57:16,761 --> 01:57:19,970
economic. And it does hit

4063
01:57:19,970 --> 01:57:20,698
individuals and families, you

4064
01:57:20,698 --> 01:57:22,900
know, very hard, and that's one

4065
01:57:22,900 --> 01:57:24,503
of my arguments in the last, you

4066
01:57:24,503 --> 01:57:26,370
know, several years in

4067
01:57:26,370 --> 01:57:28,139
sacramento when we talked about

4068
01:57:28,139 --> 01:57:31,139
the vehicles miles travel. And

4069
01:57:32,577 --> 01:57:35,814
so I think that removing both of

4070
01:57:35,814 --> 01:57:37,983
them would really -- I mean, it

4071
01:57:37,983 --> 01:57:42,183
also allows those -- I mean, for

4072
01:57:44,890 --> 01:57:45,890
us to continuing to watch that

4073
01:57:45,890 --> 01:57:46,791
sacramento is doing. They've

4074
01:57:46,791 --> 01:57:48,125
got hearings, talking about the

4075
01:57:48,125 --> 01:57:50,629
vehicle miles travel as well

4076
01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:52,864
this year. And watching what

4077
01:57:52,864 --> 01:57:54,165
they do and how it's going to be

4078
01:57:54,165 --> 01:57:55,867
implemented statewide would be

4079
01:57:55,867 --> 01:57:58,103
much more helpful to us than to

4080
01:57:58,103 --> 01:57:58,803
put it into our action.

4081
01:57:58,803 --> 01:58:00,505
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think

4082
01:58:00,505 --> 01:58:02,740
the vehicle miles plan can be

4083
01:58:02,740 --> 01:58:04,943
done different ways. Maybe a

4084
01:58:04,943 --> 01:58:06,344
different rate for electric cars

4085
01:58:06,344 --> 01:58:07,244
than gasoline cars for example.

4086
01:58:07,244 --> 01:58:10,844
I think that's a concept that

4087
01:58:18,122 --> 01:58:20,359
I'd like to see explored.

4088
01:58:20,359 --> 01:58:22,861
>>chair, doug chaffee: I would

4089
01:58:22,861 --> 01:58:25,630
demand the motion to approve by

4090
01:58:25,630 --> 01:58:26,732
4 by deleting that first item on

4091
01:58:26,732 --> 01:58:28,266
page 95 that you're referring to

4092
01:58:28,266 --> 01:58:30,368
if the second is agreeable to

4093
01:58:30,368 --> 01:58:33,772
that. If the second is not

4094
01:58:33,772 --> 01:58:34,973
agreeable, then we don't move

4095
01:58:34,973 --> 01:58:36,575
forward.

4096
01:58:36,575 --> 01:58:38,176
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can

4097
01:58:38,176 --> 01:58:39,578
someone clarify what section

4098
01:58:39,578 --> 01:58:41,179
we're deleting? I don't have

4099
01:58:41,179 --> 01:58:43,382
page numbers on mine.

4100
01:58:43,382 --> 01:58:45,782
>>chair, doug chaffee: page 95.

4101
01:58:46,351 --> 01:58:47,453
>>janet nguyen: c-e1.

4102
01:58:47,453 --> 01:58:50,453
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: c-e1

4103
01:58:50,889 --> 01:58:51,522
as I understand it says provide

4104
01:58:51,522 --> 01:58:53,191
technical assistance to private

4105
01:58:53,191 --> 01:58:55,527
building owners and tenants

4106
01:58:55,527 --> 01:58:56,940
regarding building

4107
01:58:56,940 --> 01:58:57,229
decarbonization and explore

4108
01:58:57,229 --> 01:58:59,229
opportunities to connect

4109
01:58:59,464 --> 01:59:00,899
building owners with proficient

4110
01:59:00,899 --> 01:59:03,299
contractors. That's what you

4111
01:59:03,968 --> 01:59:04,269
want to remove? I don't

4112
01:59:04,269 --> 01:59:05,604
understand.

4113
01:59:05,604 --> 01:59:08,373
>>leon page: there are actually

4114
01:59:08,373 --> 01:59:09,575
three action items on page 95.

4115
01:59:09,575 --> 01:59:11,944
>>chair, doug chaffee: page 95.

4116
01:59:11,944 --> 01:59:13,979
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: c-e1

4117
01:59:13,979 --> 01:59:17,579
says what I just read. Which

4118
01:59:17,683 --> 01:59:17,916
section are you asking to

4119
01:59:17,916 --> 01:59:19,916
remove?

4120
01:59:22,521 --> 01:59:24,690
>>janet nguyen: c-e1, e-1, dash

4121
01:59:24,690 --> 01:59:25,323
2, and dash 3.

4122
01:59:25,323 --> 01:59:27,860
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: dash

4123
01:59:27,860 --> 01:59:28,930
2 and 3 is what you want to

4124
01:59:28,930 --> 01:59:28,660
remove.

4125
01:59:28,660 --> 01:59:30,162
>>janet nguyen: all three of

4126
01:59:30,162 --> 01:59:31,196
them. At this point --

4127
01:59:31,196 --> 01:59:33,399
MR. Chair, I appreciate --

4128
01:59:33,399 --> 01:59:36,999
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can I

4129
01:59:37,102 --> 01:59:38,203
finish? So c-e1.2, I just want

4130
01:59:38,203 --> 01:59:40,339
to make sure we're all on the

4131
01:59:40,339 --> 01:59:43,175
same page, says work with local

4132
01:59:43,175 --> 01:59:44,209
utilities and or the southern

4133
01:59:44,209 --> 01:59:46,209
california regional energy

4134
01:59:47,613 --> 01:59:49,214
network to promote replacement

4135
01:59:49,214 --> 01:59:50,815
of natural gas appliances

4136
01:59:50,815 --> 01:59:51,784
through education and financial

4137
01:59:51,784 --> 01:59:53,784
incentives. That's assuming

4138
01:59:54,453 --> 01:59:56,354
that those are required by the

4139
01:59:56,354 --> 01:59:58,757
state at some point. We're not

4140
01:59:58,757 --> 02:00:00,192
mandating it, we're just saying

4141
02:00:00,192 --> 02:00:02,528
if that's required, work with

4142
02:00:02,528 --> 02:00:04,730
locals to help them. So is that

4143
02:00:04,730 --> 02:00:07,700
what you want to remove? Is

4144
02:00:07,700 --> 02:00:08,766
that a yes or a no? I just want

4145
02:00:08,766 --> 02:00:10,368
to go through and make sure I

4146
02:00:10,368 --> 02:00:13,105
know what you want to remove.

4147
02:00:13,105 --> 02:00:13,272
>>janet nguyen: I said all of

4148
02:00:13,272 --> 02:00:13,873
e-1.

4149
02:00:13,873 --> 02:00:16,873
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

4150
02:00:17,420 --> 02:00:19,430
the next part of e-1.3 is launch

4151
02:00:19,430 --> 02:00:20,546
educational campaigns for

4152
02:00:20,546 --> 02:00:22,546
residents, businesses and

4153
02:00:23,810 --> 02:00:25,283
building owners and managers on

4154
02:00:25,283 --> 02:00:26,185
decarbon sayings and/or

4155
02:00:26,185 --> 02:00:28,185
electrification programs and

4156
02:00:29,822 --> 02:00:32,822
incentives offered by the local

4157
02:00:35,461 --> 02:00:39,364
utilities and or so cal rye n,

4158
02:00:39,364 --> 02:00:41,300
which is the regional --

4159
02:00:41,300 --> 02:00:43,300
southern california regional

4160
02:00:44,737 --> 02:00:46,710
energy network. Is that what

4161
02:00:46,710 --> 02:00:47,840
else you want to remove.

4162
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:50,776
>>janet nguyen: all of e-1.

4163
02:00:50,776 --> 02:00:53,776
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and

4164
02:00:54,413 --> 02:00:56,810
the vehicle miles traveled, the

4165
02:00:56,810 --> 02:00:57,820
recommendation is to evaluate

4166
02:00:57,820 --> 02:00:58,584
opportunities to support and

4167
02:00:58,584 --> 02:01:00,584
expand active transportation

4168
02:01:00,753 --> 02:01:01,954
infrastructure to major

4169
02:01:01,954 --> 02:01:03,121
destinations within

4170
02:01:03,121 --> 02:01:05,521
un-incorporated areas, and the

4171
02:01:05,991 --> 02:01:07,493
second goal is to promote and/or

4172
02:01:07,493 --> 02:01:09,493
incentivize transit oriented,

4173
02:01:09,895 --> 02:01:11,330
mixed use, compact development

4174
02:01:11,330 --> 02:01:12,932
through permit streamlining and

4175
02:01:12,932 --> 02:01:15,234
incentives. That's not really

4176
02:01:15,234 --> 02:01:17,369
about vehicle miles traveled as

4177
02:01:17,369 --> 02:01:19,905
a tax, as it's been described.

4178
02:01:19,905 --> 02:01:21,473
It's more about how do we create

4179
02:01:21,473 --> 02:01:23,910
infrastructure. So I would not

4180
02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:26,145
support the motion. I would not

4181
02:01:26,145 --> 02:01:29,145
support the request to remove

4182
02:01:29,348 --> 02:01:30,349
those because --

4183
02:01:30,349 --> 02:01:30,549
>>chair, doug chaffee: either of

4184
02:01:30,549 --> 02:01:31,183
them.

4185
02:01:31,183 --> 02:01:32,885
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,

4186
02:01:32,885 --> 02:01:34,987
I don't know what -- we're going

4187
02:01:34,987 --> 02:01:36,722
to remove the section -- I'd

4188
02:01:36,722 --> 02:01:38,224
like to hear why we need to

4189
02:01:38,224 --> 02:01:39,250
remove the section about

4190
02:01:39,250 --> 02:01:41,250
providing technical assistance

4191
02:01:41,961 --> 02:01:44,961
and working with the utility

4192
02:01:49,167 --> 02:01:49,388
companies. Don't we want to do

4193
02:01:49,388 --> 02:01:50,360
that.

4194
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:51,838
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's

4195
02:01:51,838 --> 02:01:54,238
today to into this

4196
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:56,776
electrification issue, so...

4197
02:01:56,776 --> 02:01:57,900
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,

4198
02:01:57,900 --> 02:01:58,770
MAY I --

4199
02:01:58,770 --> 02:02:01,770
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: it's

4200
02:02:01,314 --> 02:02:02,281
not requiring -- look, I have a

4201
02:02:02,281 --> 02:02:03,683
gas stove. I know people

4202
02:02:03,683 --> 02:02:07,883
have -- there's like a lot of

4203
02:02:08,154 --> 02:02:09,956
debate about that. And that's

4204
02:02:09,956 --> 02:02:12,592
why we did mandate anything like

4205
02:02:12,592 --> 02:02:13,793
that. And so I don't think this

4206
02:02:13,793 --> 02:02:14,600
section does what has been

4207
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:16,600
described.

4208
02:02:17,596 --> 02:02:19,996
>>chair, doug chaffee: well,

4209
02:02:21,134 --> 02:02:21,734
it's strange, connecting a

4210
02:02:21,734 --> 02:02:22,835
building with proficient

4211
02:02:22,835 --> 02:02:25,235
contractors. That's almost like

4212
02:02:26,405 --> 02:02:26,706
an advertisement for who is

4213
02:02:26,706 --> 02:02:27,373
profession.

4214
02:02:27,373 --> 02:02:28,407
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,

4215
02:02:28,407 --> 02:02:28,975
I can understand why that would

4216
02:02:28,975 --> 02:02:29,842
be a concern.

4217
02:02:29,842 --> 02:02:32,842
>>chair, doug chaffee: yeah. I

4218
02:02:33,346 --> 02:02:33,680
don't want to vote a contractor

4219
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:34,314
particularly.

4220
02:02:34,314 --> 02:02:35,815
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can

4221
02:02:35,815 --> 02:02:37,383
we keep the provide technical

4222
02:02:37,383 --> 02:02:37,617
assistance to private building

4223
02:02:37,617 --> 02:02:39,617
owners.

4224
02:02:39,652 --> 02:02:40,453
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,

4225
02:02:40,453 --> 02:02:41,187
can I say --

4226
02:02:41,187 --> 02:02:41,420
>>chair, doug chaffee: well,

4227
02:02:41,420 --> 02:02:43,420
let's --

4228
02:02:44,223 --> 02:02:45,758
>>janet nguyen: it might help

4229
02:02:45,758 --> 02:02:48,461
you to have not --

4230
02:02:48,461 --> 02:02:50,861
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

4231
02:02:53,399 --> 02:02:56,999
Well, let's -- there is a

4232
02:02:57,369 --> 02:02:59,506
request now from removing two

4233
02:02:59,506 --> 02:03:01,240
items, and I don't see any

4234
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,476
support for removing the one

4235
02:03:03,476 --> 02:03:05,778
concerning the vehicle miles

4236
02:03:05,778 --> 02:03:08,178
expiration. The first one,

4237
02:03:10,116 --> 02:03:10,717
though, building

4238
02:03:10,717 --> 02:03:13,117
decarbonization, I find that

4239
02:03:13,253 --> 02:03:14,854
difficult myself. All right.

4240
02:03:14,854 --> 02:03:18,591
Let's see if we can work through

4241
02:03:18,591 --> 02:03:19,659
this. Supervisor -- vice-chair,

4242
02:03:19,659 --> 02:03:20,293
any further comments?

4243
02:03:20,293 --> 02:03:22,228
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

4244
02:03:22,228 --> 02:03:23,563
just would be open to hearing

4245
02:03:23,563 --> 02:03:25,431
how you might want to change

4246
02:03:25,431 --> 02:03:26,332
some of that because I think

4247
02:03:26,332 --> 02:03:29,869
what I hear you saying is that

4248
02:03:29,869 --> 02:03:32,305
you're concerned about the -- us

4249
02:03:32,305 --> 02:03:35,508
advertising. So I get that, and

4250
02:03:35,508 --> 02:03:37,610
that I can accept. But I guess

4251
02:03:37,610 --> 02:03:40,946
my concern is that most of the

4252
02:03:40,946 --> 02:03:41,915
rest of this is more sort of

4253
02:03:41,915 --> 02:03:44,117
educational, helping people to

4254
02:03:44,117 --> 02:03:47,117
find out what incentives are

4255
02:03:47,286 --> 02:03:49,489
offered by other utilities,

4256
02:03:49,489 --> 02:03:51,489
connecting residents, and

4257
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:56,128
private businesses to utility

4258
02:03:56,128 --> 02:03:57,763
incentives. So if they have to

4259
02:03:57,763 --> 02:03:58,631
do something different in their

4260
02:03:58,631 --> 02:04:02,231
development or if they want to,

4261
02:04:02,435 --> 02:04:05,338
for that matter. So that would

4262
02:04:05,338 --> 02:04:07,400
be -- if we want to remove the

4263
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:09,400
language, explore opportunities

4264
02:04:09,375 --> 02:04:12,178
to connect building owners with

4265
02:04:12,178 --> 02:04:13,914
proficient contractors, would

4266
02:04:13,914 --> 02:04:15,515
that satisfy your concerns?

4267
02:04:15,515 --> 02:04:16,983
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I

4268
02:04:16,983 --> 02:04:17,917
think we're getting a little bit

4269
02:04:17,917 --> 02:04:18,518
into the weeds here a little too

4270
02:04:18,518 --> 02:04:19,119
much.

4271
02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:19,319
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4272
02:04:19,319 --> 02:04:20,754
okay.

4273
02:04:20,754 --> 02:04:22,220
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think

4274
02:04:22,220 --> 02:04:24,791
if you want to come back later

4275
02:04:24,791 --> 02:04:27,791
with some rewording of this

4276
02:04:28,327 --> 02:04:29,896
whole section, that's possible.

4277
02:04:29,896 --> 02:04:30,163
It doesn't have to be the end of

4278
02:04:30,163 --> 02:04:32,163
it today.

4279
02:04:32,365 --> 02:04:35,365
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

4280
02:04:35,568 --> 02:04:37,104
>>chair, doug chaffee: but I

4281
02:04:37,104 --> 02:04:38,638
found the whole thrust of it is

4282
02:04:38,638 --> 02:04:41,380
leading to electrification when

4283
02:04:42,943 --> 02:04:44,443
there are other economic

4284
02:04:44,443 --> 02:04:47,460
opportunities that MAY need to

4285
02:04:47,460 --> 02:04:48,982
be considered. So -- and I'm

4286
02:04:48,982 --> 02:04:52,819
also going to try to find some

4287
02:04:52,819 --> 02:04:55,322
grounds to get this done. And I

4288
02:04:55,322 --> 02:04:57,722
find -- so, anyway...

4289
02:05:01,261 --> 02:05:05,999
We have a motion that so far is

4290
02:05:05,999 --> 02:05:07,601
just to add the section 4.

4291
02:05:07,601 --> 02:05:09,202
There's a suggestion for a

4292
02:05:09,202 --> 02:05:11,602
change from supervisor nguyen.

4293
02:05:12,873 --> 02:05:14,274
I'm agreeable to that. I did

4294
02:05:14,274 --> 02:05:17,874
not -- not to this mileage

4295
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:19,646
thing, but to the other part. I

4296
02:05:19,646 --> 02:05:20,914
didn't hear an agreement from my

4297
02:05:20,914 --> 02:05:23,149
second. So I don't know where

4298
02:05:23,149 --> 02:05:27,349
we are. Right now we have a

4299
02:05:27,620 --> 02:05:28,355
motion to simply add section 4

4300
02:05:28,355 --> 02:05:30,755
PRESIDENT Been moved and

4301
02:05:31,992 --> 02:05:34,992
seconded. That's where we're at

4302
02:05:40,667 --> 02:05:42,368
at. I guess we'll call -- and I

4303
02:05:42,368 --> 02:05:44,404
think we can address this other

4304
02:05:44,404 --> 02:05:46,806
thing later maybe? I don't

4305
02:05:46,806 --> 02:05:49,843
know. I'm troubled when I read

4306
02:05:49,843 --> 02:05:52,146
through that thing that

4307
02:05:52,146 --> 02:05:54,546
supervisor nguyen was pointing

4308
02:05:55,883 --> 02:05:56,683
out as not a good idea.

4309
02:05:56,683 --> 02:05:57,651
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd

4310
02:05:57,651 --> 02:05:59,653
be happy to work with you on

4311
02:05:59,653 --> 02:06:02,756
some changes to the language if

4312
02:06:02,756 --> 02:06:03,924
we could just get it passed

4313
02:06:03,924 --> 02:06:06,460
today and then we could maybe

4314
02:06:06,460 --> 02:06:06,726
bring it back, if that's

4315
02:06:06,726 --> 02:06:07,294
agreeable.

4316
02:06:07,294 --> 02:06:08,228
>>chair, doug chaffee: the

4317
02:06:08,228 --> 02:06:09,620
alternative is simply to

4318
02:06:09,620 --> 02:06:11,620
continue consideration of

4319
02:06:11,364 --> 02:06:13,934
section 4 to the next meeting.

4320
02:06:13,934 --> 02:06:14,501
Would that be agreeable?

4321
02:06:14,501 --> 02:06:14,701
>>janet nguyen: I'll second

4322
02:06:14,701 --> 02:06:15,936
that.

4323
02:06:15,936 --> 02:06:18,404
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd

4324
02:06:18,404 --> 02:06:20,440
rather just condition this one

4325
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,343
page that is at issue if we're

4326
02:06:22,343 --> 02:06:24,110
going to continue anything.

4327
02:06:24,110 --> 02:06:25,813
>>chair, doug chaffee: so you'd

4328
02:06:25,813 --> 02:06:28,480
be agreeable at this time for

4329
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:28,615
removing that item from --

4330
02:06:28,615 --> 02:06:29,983
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4331
02:06:29,983 --> 02:06:32,383
continuing this one item.

4332
02:06:33,530 --> 02:06:36,530
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So

4333
02:06:36,690 --> 02:06:38,725
that item c-e1 through 3 will

4334
02:06:38,725 --> 02:06:40,594
not be part of section 4 that

4335
02:06:40,594 --> 02:06:41,828
we're voting on now.

4336
02:06:41,828 --> 02:06:42,929
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yeah.

4337
02:06:42,929 --> 02:06:43,696
And then we'll continue that to

4338
02:06:43,696 --> 02:06:44,298
the next meeting.

4339
02:06:44,298 --> 02:06:45,765
>>chair, doug chaffee: for

4340
02:06:45,765 --> 02:06:47,134
further discussion all right.

4341
02:06:47,134 --> 02:06:49,536
Got it. All right. Any

4342
02:06:49,536 --> 02:06:51,936
objection to that motion?

4343
02:06:53,406 --> 02:06:56,406
Clerk, please call the roll.

4344
02:06:58,879 --> 02:06:59,113
>>clerk, robin stieler: chair

4345
02:06:59,113 --> 02:07:01,113
chaffee.

4346
02:07:02,683 --> 02:07:04,985
>>chair, doug chaffee: aye.

4347
02:07:04,985 --> 02:07:06,200
>>clerk, robin stieler:

4348
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,200
supervisor foley.

4349
02:07:08,220 --> 02:07:08,221
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4350
02:07:08,221 --> 02:07:10,221
isle.

4351
02:07:10,758 --> 02:07:12,758
>>clerk, robin stieler:

4352
02:07:12,793 --> 02:07:14,793
supervisor nguyen.

4353
02:07:15,128 --> 02:07:15,962
>>janet nguyen: abstain.

4354
02:07:15,962 --> 02:07:17,298
>>clerk, robin stieler:

4355
02:07:17,298 --> 02:07:17,964
supervisor sarmiento.

4356
02:07:17,964 --> 02:07:20,364
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, but

4357
02:07:35,916 --> 02:07:36,950
it's c hi e1, ce-.2, c dash e1.3

4358
02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:37,184
e1.3.

4359
02:07:37,184 --> 02:07:38,652
S.

4360
02:07:38,652 --> 02:07:41,652
>>janet nguyen: MADAM Clerk, you

4361
02:07:46,326 --> 02:07:47,727
can make mine no?.

4362
02:07:47,727 --> 02:07:50,364
>>chair, doug chaffee: so no,

4363
02:07:50,364 --> 02:07:52,366
three yeses and an abstention.

4364
02:07:52,366 --> 02:07:52,534
>>clerk, robin stieler: two

4365
02:07:52,534 --> 02:07:53,670
NOs.

4366
02:07:53,670 --> 02:07:55,467
>>chair, doug chaffee: so

4367
02:07:58,572 --> 02:08:00,107
section 4, absent the c-e.1, 2,

4368
02:08:00,107 --> 02:08:01,541
and 3 are now part of the

4369
02:08:01,541 --> 02:08:02,443
climate action plan and we'll

4370
02:08:02,443 --> 02:08:04,679
come back and further discuss

4371
02:08:04,679 --> 02:08:05,746
this and massage it a little bit

4372
02:08:05,746 --> 02:08:09,946
and see if we can make more

4373
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:13,854
sense out of it.

4374
02:08:13,854 --> 02:08:15,880
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

4375
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:16,570
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.

4376
02:08:16,570 --> 02:08:18,457
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4377
02:08:19,660 --> 02:08:20,561
right. Now please go on to item

4378
02:08:20,561 --> 02:08:21,195
22.

4379
02:08:21,195 --> 02:08:21,862
>>clerk, robin stieler: 22.

4380
02:08:21,862 --> 02:08:22,496
Under county executive office-

4381
02:08:22,496 --> 02:08:23,164
approve grant

4382
02:08:23,164 --> 02:08:23,831
applications/awards submitted by

4383
02:08:23,831 --> 02:08:24,898
health care agency, oc community

4384
02:08:24,898 --> 02:08:27,298
resources and oc waste &

4385
02:08:27,501 --> 02:08:28,302
recycling in 2/24/26 grant

4386
02:08:28,302 --> 02:08:31,302
report and other actions as

4387
02:08:31,472 --> 02:08:32,173
recommended; and adopt

4388
02:08:32,173 --> 02:08:32,874
resolution authorizing oc waste

4389
02:08:32,874 --> 02:08:33,808
& recycling director or designee

4390
02:08:33,808 --> 02:08:34,942
to negotiate, execute

4391
02:08:34,942 --> 02:08:36,942
agreements, related documents

4392
02:08:38,445 --> 02:08:39,947
and amendments with california

4393
02:08:39,947 --> 02:08:42,347
coastal commission for whale

4394
02:08:43,851 --> 02:08:44,719
tail grants program ($50,000)

4395
02:08:44,719 --> 02:08:46,354
And MR. Chair, we received one

4396
02:08:46,354 --> 02:08:46,520
request to speak on agenda item

4397
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:47,922
22.

4398
02:08:47,922 --> 02:08:50,570
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

4399
02:08:50,570 --> 02:08:52,570
call the speaker.

4400
02:09:02,904 --> 02:09:03,404
>>clerk, robin stieler: donora.

4401
02:09:03,404 --> 02:09:05,373
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4402
02:09:05,373 --> 02:09:05,973
apparently not present.

4403
02:09:05,973 --> 02:09:06,273
>>clerk, robin stieler: she's

4404
02:09:06,273 --> 02:09:07,241
right here.

4405
02:09:07,241 --> 02:09:10,241
>>chair, doug chaffee: come on

4406
02:09:10,244 --> 02:09:13,844
over then. Please come to the

4407
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:19,587
podium.

4408
02:09:19,587 --> 02:09:21,556
>>speaker: good morning,

4409
02:09:21,556 --> 02:09:23,324
everyone. I guess you guys know

4410
02:09:23,324 --> 02:09:26,694
who I am, and I want to speak on

4411
02:09:26,694 --> 02:09:29,230
item 22, but I also -- since

4412
02:09:29,230 --> 02:09:31,399
english is my second language, I

4413
02:09:31,399 --> 02:09:32,834
want to stand a little bit that

4414
02:09:32,834 --> 02:09:34,602
I'm very disappointed that you

4415
02:09:34,602 --> 02:09:36,804
as federal government, who

4416
02:09:36,804 --> 02:09:39,730
brought me here as a kid, I was

4417
02:09:39,730 --> 02:09:41,542
7 years old, supposed to be

4418
02:09:41,542 --> 02:09:43,100
protected under federal statute

4419
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:44,645
because we were brought as

4420
02:09:44,645 --> 02:09:46,948
refugee, not escape from cuba.

4421
02:09:46,948 --> 02:09:49,348
Federal government brought us

4422
02:09:50,485 --> 02:09:52,186
here. And I've worked 40-plus

4423
02:09:52,186 --> 02:09:55,786
years and paid taxes to see

4424
02:09:55,924 --> 02:09:56,791
illegal aliens taken over

4425
02:09:56,791 --> 02:09:59,260
housing in orange county. I've

4426
02:09:59,260 --> 02:10:01,563
never drink, done drugs, neither

4427
02:10:01,563 --> 02:10:02,863
smoke. My family from florida

4428
02:10:02,863 --> 02:10:05,233
is very disappointed including

4429
02:10:05,233 --> 02:10:06,935
in cuba, so they're sending my

4430
02:10:06,935 --> 02:10:09,603
alien number to washington D.C.

4431
02:10:09,603 --> 02:10:13,803
To see what the heck went wrong

4432
02:10:16,844 --> 02:10:19,800
here. I should not be in my

4433
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:20,548
cart, and illegal aliens have

4434
02:10:20,548 --> 02:10:23,548
taken over housing. I've been

4435
02:10:24,119 --> 02:10:25,920
coming to the board since 2019

4436
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:29,570
through the present, and a lot

4437
02:10:29,570 --> 02:10:32,657
of great officers are friends of

4438
02:10:33,494 --> 02:10:35,630
mine, including the chief

4439
02:10:35,630 --> 02:10:36,598
barnes. And it's an

4440
02:10:36,598 --> 02:10:38,233
embarrassment that you guys have

4441
02:10:38,233 --> 02:10:39,734
not done to anything about it to

4442
02:10:39,734 --> 02:10:42,734
tell the housing authority go

4443
02:10:42,837 --> 02:10:45,500
ahead and give her an emergency

4444
02:10:45,500 --> 02:10:45,239
voucher, run into church, taking

4445
02:10:45,239 --> 02:10:46,374
shower.

4446
02:10:46,374 --> 02:10:47,976
>>chair, doug chaffee: this has

4447
02:10:47,976 --> 02:10:49,511
nothing to do with that.

4448
02:10:49,511 --> 02:10:50,411
>>speaker: but I would like to

4449
02:10:50,411 --> 02:10:52,147
make an appointment with you. I

4450
02:10:52,147 --> 02:10:52,814
was told you are the chair.

4451
02:10:52,814 --> 02:10:54,349
>>chair, doug chaffee: you can

4452
02:10:54,349 --> 02:10:55,717
make an appointment through the

4453
02:10:55,717 --> 02:10:58,530
appropriate channels. But this

4454
02:10:58,530 --> 02:11:00,155
has nothing to do with that.

4455
02:11:00,155 --> 02:11:02,555
>>speaker: thank you. Very

4456
02:11:02,657 --> 02:11:05,657
stressed out. But on topping,

4457
02:11:08,663 --> 02:11:10,532
no. 22, since you say community

4458
02:11:10,532 --> 02:11:11,365
resource -- on topic...

4459
02:11:11,365 --> 02:11:13,335
Maybe the resource community

4460
02:11:13,335 --> 02:11:16,335
could focus on illegal immigrant

4461
02:11:17,105 --> 02:11:19,541
when they making housing and not

4462
02:11:19,541 --> 02:11:20,942
depriving me of housing

4463
02:11:20,942 --> 02:11:23,942
assistant, hopefully I can make

4464
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,581
an I point with you, the chair,

4465
02:11:26,581 --> 02:11:29,581
because charles has refused to

4466
02:11:29,618 --> 02:11:31,219
make me an appointment with

4467
02:11:31,219 --> 02:11:32,686
supervisor janet nguyen, and I

4468
02:11:32,686 --> 02:11:34,956
was told that I have the right

4469
02:11:34,956 --> 02:11:36,625
to make an appointment with the

4470
02:11:36,625 --> 02:11:40,225
a supervisor because he have not

4471
02:11:40,896 --> 02:11:44,496
done anything for me, just ask

4472
02:11:45,533 --> 02:11:46,334
andrew do and chief crist.

4473
02:11:46,334 --> 02:11:48,636
>>chair, doug chaffee: you need

4474
02:11:48,636 --> 02:11:49,270
to address the item or sit down,

4475
02:11:49,270 --> 02:11:50,171
please.

4476
02:11:50,171 --> 02:11:52,674
>>speaker: thank you. This is

4477
02:11:52,674 --> 02:11:54,276
the item that -- like I say,

4478
02:11:54,276 --> 02:11:57,345
this is my first time being here

4479
02:11:57,345 --> 02:11:59,347
since I was a kid, and I had to

4480
02:11:59,347 --> 02:12:02,347
basically talk to you guys,

4481
02:12:02,684 --> 02:12:04,152
legislative policymakers, to see

4482
02:12:04,152 --> 02:12:05,686
why people that are illegal are

4483
02:12:05,686 --> 02:12:05,920
take over housing in orange

4484
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:06,521
county.

4485
02:12:06,521 --> 02:12:08,689
>>chair, doug chaffee: again,

4486
02:12:08,689 --> 02:12:08,890
this item has nothing to do with

4487
02:12:08,890 --> 02:12:10,250
that.

4488
02:12:10,250 --> 02:12:11,659
>>speaker: so when it has

4489
02:12:11,659 --> 02:12:13,829
something to do, can you explain

4490
02:12:13,829 --> 02:12:15,970
this in english, is my second

4491
02:12:15,970 --> 02:12:15,730
language, community resource.

4492
02:12:15,730 --> 02:12:18,400
>>chair, doug chaffee: this has

4493
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,302
to do with grant applications.

4494
02:12:20,302 --> 02:12:23,205
They're listed in the agenda.

4495
02:12:23,205 --> 02:12:24,840
>>speaker: well, I pulled out my

4496
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:25,640
application for housing and

4497
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:26,407
nothing happened yet.

4498
02:12:26,407 --> 02:12:27,876
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's

4499
02:12:27,876 --> 02:12:28,143
not this. Your time is up.

4500
02:12:28,143 --> 02:12:29,377
Thank you.

4501
02:12:29,377 --> 02:12:30,879
>>speaker: thank you. Have a

4502
02:12:30,879 --> 02:12:32,380
great day, and looking forward

4503
02:12:32,380 --> 02:12:32,548
to making an appointment with

4504
02:12:32,548 --> 02:12:34,116
you.

4505
02:12:34,116 --> 02:12:34,783
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4506
02:12:34,783 --> 02:12:35,417
the item.

4507
02:12:35,417 --> 02:12:36,451
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

4508
02:12:36,451 --> 02:12:38,586
seconded. I would note there is

4509
02:12:38,586 --> 02:12:40,756
grant money here possibly for

4510
02:12:40,756 --> 02:12:43,156
prop 36 funding, something that

4511
02:12:43,291 --> 02:12:45,260
the people voted in, and they --

4512
02:12:45,260 --> 02:12:46,995
and sacramento seems to ignore.

4513
02:12:46,995 --> 02:12:49,995
Here's a chance for some

4514
02:12:50,131 --> 02:12:53,731
funding, and we do take that

4515
02:12:54,636 --> 02:12:56,338
seriously. All right. It's

4516
02:12:56,338 --> 02:12:58,338
included PRESIDENT Been

4517
02:12:59,875 --> 02:13:02,275
approved. Item 23 has been

4518
02:13:03,111 --> 02:13:03,811
deleted. So item 24, please.

4519
02:13:03,811 --> 02:13:04,780
>>clerk, robin stieler: 24.

4520
02:13:04,780 --> 02:13:05,881
Under county executive office,

4521
02:13:05,881 --> 02:13:06,782
approve type 2 work order number

4522
02:13:06,782 --> 02:13:07,750
ncy7-009 under contract

4523
02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:08,817
ma-017-19010750 with science

4524
02:13:08,817 --> 02:13:10,786
applications international

4525
02:13:10,786 --> 02:13:12,220
corporation for managed services

4526
02:13:12,220 --> 02:13:13,455
network, voice and security

4527
02:13:13,455 --> 02:13:15,324
services to support firewall

4528
02:13:15,324 --> 02:13:17,492
system migration for john wayne

4529
02:13:17,492 --> 02:13:18,860
airport, 3/25/26-11/10/26

4530
02:13:18,860 --> 02:13:20,596
($225,200); and authorize county

4531
02:13:20,596 --> 02:13:22,996
chief information officer or

4532
02:13:23,650 --> 02:13:26,650
designee to execute work order.

4533
02:13:26,101 --> 02:13:26,768
We have no requests to speak on

4534
02:13:26,768 --> 02:13:27,669
agenda item 24.

4535
02:13:27,669 --> 02:13:28,303
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

4536
02:13:28,303 --> 02:13:28,937
all-district item.

4537
02:13:28,937 --> 02:13:29,204
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4538
02:13:29,204 --> 02:13:30,390
the item.

4539
02:13:30,390 --> 02:13:32,240
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

4540
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:32,908
objection? Item 24 is approved.

4541
02:13:32,908 --> 02:13:33,509
25, please.

4542
02:13:33,509 --> 02:13:34,143
>>clerk, robin stieler: 25.

4543
02:13:34,143 --> 02:13:34,809
Under county executive office,

4544
02:13:34,809 --> 02:13:35,678
approve amendment 3 to renew

4545
02:13:35,678 --> 02:13:37,579
contract ma-017-22011093 with

4546
02:13:37,579 --> 02:13:39,247
southwest strategies, llc for

4547
02:13:39,247 --> 02:13:41,416
spent fuel solutions management

4548
02:13:41,416 --> 02:13:42,318
services at san onofre nuclear

4549
02:13:42,318 --> 02:13:43,118
generating station, 3/22/26-

4550
02:13:43,118 --> 02:13:44,453
3/21/27 ($100,000; cumulative

4551
02:13:44,453 --> 02:13:45,320
total $500,000); and authorize

4552
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:47,556
county procurement officer or

4553
02:13:47,556 --> 02:13:49,725
deputized designee to execute amendment.

4554
02:13:49,725 --> 02:13:53,925
We have no requests to speak on

4555
02:13:54,496 --> 02:13:55,264
agenda item 25.

4556
02:13:55,264 --> 02:13:55,864
>>chair, doug chaffee: is

4557
02:13:55,864 --> 02:13:56,699
district 5.

4558
02:13:56,699 --> 02:13:59,134
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4559
02:13:59,134 --> 02:14:00,603
the item.

4560
02:14:00,603 --> 02:14:02,271
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

4561
02:14:02,271 --> 02:14:04,671
objection? Item 25 is approved.

4562
02:14:05,740 --> 02:14:05,875
26, please.

4563
02:14:05,875 --> 02:14:06,509
>>clerk, robin stieler: 26.

4564
02:14:06,509 --> 02:14:07,142
Under county executive office,

4565
02:14:07,142 --> 02:14:09,142
approve 2026 federal community

4566
02:14:09,711 --> 02:14:11,480
project funding requests. And we

4567
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:12,781
have no requests to speak on

4568
02:14:12,781 --> 02:14:13,682
agenda item 26.

4569
02:14:13,682 --> 02:14:14,350
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

4570
02:14:14,350 --> 02:14:14,984
all-district item.

4571
02:14:14,984 --> 02:14:15,985
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4572
02:14:15,985 --> 02:14:17,685
the item.

4573
02:14:17,685 --> 02:14:19,588
>>chair, doug chaffee: seeing no

4574
02:14:19,588 --> 02:14:19,988
objection, item is approved.

4575
02:14:19,988 --> 02:14:20,756
27, please.

4576
02:14:20,756 --> 02:14:21,490
>>clerk, robin stieler: 27.

4577
02:14:21,490 --> 02:14:22,925
Under county executive office,

4578
02:14:22,925 --> 02:14:23,793
approve amendment 3 to contract

4579
02:14:23,793 --> 02:14:24,926
ma-017-22010907 with network

4580
02:14:24,926 --> 02:14:26,662
television time inc. For board

4581
02:14:26,662 --> 02:14:27,362
hearing room hardware, software

4582
02:14:27,362 --> 02:14:28,297
and professional services, term

4583
02:14:28,297 --> 02:14:28,930
ending 3/8/31 ($1,793,655;

4584
02:14:28,930 --> 02:14:29,632
cumulative total $4,676,762);

4585
02:14:29,632 --> 02:14:30,566
and authorize county

4586
02:14:30,566 --> 02:14:32,966
procurement officer or deputized

4587
02:14:33,502 --> 02:14:35,270
designee to execute amendment.

4588
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:35,871
And we have no if to speak on

4589
02:14:35,871 --> 02:14:36,806
agenda item 27.

4590
02:14:36,806 --> 02:14:38,740
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

4591
02:14:38,740 --> 02:14:39,909
all-district item.

4592
02:14:39,909 --> 02:14:41,377
>>don wagner: move the item.

4593
02:14:41,377 --> 02:14:42,344
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll

4594
02:14:42,344 --> 02:14:44,744
second it. Any objection?

4595
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:47,480
Motion carries. Item 28. We

4596
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:51,684
dealt with earlier. Now we come

4597
02:14:52,755 --> 02:14:53,356
down to item 29.

4598
02:14:53,356 --> 02:14:54,123
>>clerk, robin stieler: 29.

4599
02:14:54,123 --> 02:14:54,957
Under registrar of voters-

4600
02:14:54,957 --> 02:14:55,991
approve retroactive amendment 2

4601
02:14:55,991 --> 02:14:57,126
to contract ma-031-24010973 with

4602
02:14:57,126 --> 02:14:58,260
cathyjon enterprises, inc. Dba

4603
02:14:58,260 --> 02:14:59,950
hb staffing for temporary help

4604
02:14:59,950 --> 02:14:59,862
services, 1/31/25-1/30/26

4605
02:14:59,862 --> 02:15:00,663
($181,659; new total $500,000;

4606
02:15:00,663 --> 02:15:01,597
cumulative total $1,081,659);

4607
02:15:01,597 --> 02:15:02,531
and authorize county

4608
02:15:02,531 --> 02:15:03,699
procurement officer or deputized

4609
02:15:03,699 --> 02:15:04,634
designee to exercise cost

4610
02:15:04,634 --> 02:15:05,367
contingency increase not to

4611
02:15:05,367 --> 02:15:07,367
exceed 10% under certain

4612
02:15:07,436 --> 02:15:08,838
conditions and execute contract.

4613
02:15:08,838 --> 02:15:12,410
And we received one request to

4614
02:15:12,410 --> 02:15:13,408
speak on agenda item 29.

4615
02:15:13,408 --> 02:15:14,343
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

4616
02:15:14,343 --> 02:15:16,312
call the speaker.

4617
02:15:16,312 --> 02:15:18,712
>>clerk, robin stieler: paul

4618
02:15:23,786 --> 02:15:25,786
hayek.

4619
02:15:30,226 --> 02:15:32,527
>>speaker: I bet people -- my

4620
02:15:32,527 --> 02:15:34,263
question is, with this company,

4621
02:15:34,263 --> 02:15:36,265
are they gonna able to provide

4622
02:15:36,265 --> 02:15:40,465
the extra help when we have our

4623
02:15:41,300 --> 02:15:42,805
elections in JUNE and NOVEMBER

4624
02:15:42,805 --> 02:15:45,805
to staff? The facilities that

4625
02:15:45,908 --> 02:15:48,908
are needed. I'm very interested

4626
02:15:49,378 --> 02:15:52,715
in being one of those temps.

4627
02:15:52,715 --> 02:15:54,117
I'm a handicap.

4628
02:15:54,117 --> 02:15:55,385
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

4629
02:15:55,385 --> 02:15:56,219
further requests, MR. Chair.

4630
02:15:56,219 --> 02:15:57,920
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4631
02:15:57,920 --> 02:15:58,120
right. This is an all-district

4632
02:15:58,120 --> 02:15:58,821
item.

4633
02:15:58,821 --> 02:15:59,421
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4634
02:15:59,421 --> 02:16:00,356
the item.

4635
02:16:00,356 --> 02:16:02,910
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

4636
02:16:02,910 --> 02:16:04,910
second. Objection? Motion

4637
02:16:05,527 --> 02:16:06,195
carries. Next item is item 30.

4638
02:16:06,195 --> 02:16:07,697
>>clerk, robin stieler: 30.

4639
02:16:07,697 --> 02:16:08,998
Under office of campaign finance

4640
02:16:08,998 --> 02:16:10,166
and ethics commission-receive

4641
02:16:10,166 --> 02:16:12,566
and file 2025 campaign finance

4642
02:16:15,671 --> 02:16:17,240
and ethics commission's annual report.

4643
02:16:17,240 --> 02:16:20,209
And MR. Chair, we see one

4644
02:16:20,209 --> 02:16:20,376
request to speak on agenda item

4645
02:16:20,376 --> 02:16:21,144
30.

4646
02:16:21,144 --> 02:16:21,978
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

4647
02:16:21,978 --> 02:16:23,978
call the speaker.

4648
02:16:25,148 --> 02:16:27,548
>>clerk, robin stieler: brian

4649
02:16:36,326 --> 02:16:38,326
kay.

4650
02:16:40,229 --> 02:16:41,930
>>speaker: happy day. So orange

4651
02:16:41,930 --> 02:16:44,930
county does have a campaign

4652
02:16:45,501 --> 02:16:49,101
ethics office. I've been to it.

4653
02:16:49,305 --> 02:16:50,740
I've been to a few of the

4654
02:16:50,740 --> 02:16:53,740
meetings, and it's somewhat of

4655
02:16:54,577 --> 02:16:56,980
an embarrassment. It's a vacant

4656
02:16:56,980 --> 02:16:59,380
building. There's no offices.

4657
02:17:00,216 --> 02:17:02,485
There's just a couple of tables.

4658
02:17:02,485 --> 02:17:04,254
They hold a meeting, which is

4659
02:17:04,254 --> 02:17:07,854
more a get-together for the four

4660
02:17:09,292 --> 02:17:10,827
or five board members. And poor

4661
02:17:10,827 --> 02:17:11,961
donna hoard isn't allowed to

4662
02:17:11,961 --> 02:17:14,361
actually communicate with the

4663
02:17:16,131 --> 02:17:16,900
public. So while our beloved

4664
02:17:16,900 --> 02:17:18,000
katrina foley sits there and

4665
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:19,936
says that she's paying attention

4666
02:17:19,936 --> 02:17:23,172
to people and she wants to hear

4667
02:17:23,172 --> 02:17:24,807
what the public has to say, poor

4668
02:17:24,807 --> 02:17:27,510
donna hoard isn't capable of

4669
02:17:27,510 --> 02:17:30,510
listening to the public, and

4670
02:17:30,647 --> 02:17:33,216
then translating that to this

4671
02:17:33,216 --> 02:17:36,816
board of supervisors. And it is

4672
02:17:36,986 --> 02:17:38,488
a shame. It reminds me of james

4673
02:17:38,488 --> 02:17:41,424
armanderis. I'm sure that vince

4674
02:17:41,424 --> 02:17:42,325
remembers james. Do you not,

4675
02:17:42,325 --> 02:17:44,494
sir? He was a great man on the

4676
02:17:44,494 --> 02:17:46,863
human relations, and he met with

4677
02:17:46,863 --> 02:17:48,465
the members of the public, and

4678
02:17:48,465 --> 02:17:49,999
he communicated with members of

4679
02:17:49,999 --> 02:17:52,999
the public. And then he

4680
02:17:53,300 --> 02:17:56,300
communicated with members of the

4681
02:17:56,206 --> 02:17:58,606
board. And provided that

4682
02:17:59,242 --> 02:18:00,777
integral service of

4683
02:18:00,777 --> 02:18:03,177
communication between the public

4684
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,616
and the board. And right now

4685
02:18:06,616 --> 02:18:07,784
donna doesn't have that ability.

4686
02:18:07,784 --> 02:18:10,620
She hasn't been given the

4687
02:18:10,620 --> 02:18:13,560
resources. She doesn't have the

4688
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:15,191
office, and she's admitted to

4689
02:18:15,191 --> 02:18:17,427
being given orders to just

4690
02:18:17,427 --> 02:18:21,270
ignore the public and just keep

4691
02:18:21,231 --> 02:18:22,232
doing what she's doing. So you

4692
02:18:22,232 --> 02:18:25,135
would think that someone like

4693
02:18:25,135 --> 02:18:27,470
katrina foley, dressed to the

4694
02:18:27,470 --> 02:18:29,172
NINEs in that wonderful

4695
02:18:29,172 --> 02:18:32,109
bright, loud suit that she's

4696
02:18:32,109 --> 02:18:33,777
wearing today, matches the

4697
02:18:33,777 --> 02:18:35,245
lipstick, she looks sharp -- you

4698
02:18:35,245 --> 02:18:38,470
would think that she would want

4699
02:18:38,470 --> 02:18:40,550
to make sure that that board was

4700
02:18:40,550 --> 02:18:41,551
open to communication from the

4701
02:18:41,551 --> 02:18:44,551
public and able to communicate

4702
02:18:45,880 --> 02:18:46,723
with her. I mean, she's saying

4703
02:18:46,723 --> 02:18:48,691
that she doesn't want to ignore

4704
02:18:48,691 --> 02:18:50,560
people, yet, here she is

4705
02:18:50,560 --> 02:18:53,560
ordering a county employee to

4706
02:18:55,265 --> 02:18:58,201
ignore the public. So here I am

4707
02:18:58,201 --> 02:19:00,604
standing up for a county

4708
02:19:00,604 --> 02:19:03,340
employee, donna hoard, and even

4709
02:19:03,340 --> 02:19:04,340
for katrina foley, once again,

4710
02:19:04,340 --> 02:19:06,542
saying, katrina, this is what

4711
02:19:06,542 --> 02:19:07,544
you want. This is what you

4712
02:19:07,544 --> 02:19:10,280
believe in. This is the

4713
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:12,683
standard that you are holding

4714
02:19:12,683 --> 02:19:14,918
out to the public as your own.

4715
02:19:14,918 --> 02:19:16,720
And we're not here to do

4716
02:19:16,720 --> 02:19:18,121
anything other than to help you,

4717
02:19:18,121 --> 02:19:19,723
to advise you and to warn you

4718
02:19:19,723 --> 02:19:23,323
that what you're doing is not

4719
02:19:23,460 --> 02:19:24,795
what you say you're doing. And

4720
02:19:24,795 --> 02:19:26,697
we're here giving you the

4721
02:19:26,697 --> 02:19:29,990
opportunity to live up to those

4722
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:30,467
promises, live up to that bright

4723
02:19:30,467 --> 02:19:32,336
suit that you're wearing today

4724
02:19:32,336 --> 02:19:35,472
and follow the laws that you're

4725
02:19:35,472 --> 02:19:35,772
bragging about doing. Happy day

4726
02:19:35,772 --> 02:19:36,673
day.

4727
02:19:36,673 --> 02:19:38,808
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

4728
02:19:38,808 --> 02:19:39,760
further requests to speak,

4729
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:39,643
MR. Chair.

4730
02:19:39,643 --> 02:19:42,430
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4731
02:19:44,247 --> 02:19:47,847
right. This is actually a --

4732
02:19:49,619 --> 02:19:51,789
this is a "receive and file".

4733
02:19:51,789 --> 02:19:53,890
Is there any discussion? Any

4734
02:19:53,890 --> 02:19:55,489
objection to receiving and

4735
02:19:55,825 --> 02:19:58,562
filing the report? The report

4736
02:19:58,562 --> 02:20:01,562
shall be received and filed.

4737
02:20:02,966 --> 02:20:04,568
All right. Now we come to item

4738
02:20:04,568 --> 02:20:05,168
31.

4739
02:20:05,168 --> 02:20:05,768
>>clerk, robin stieler: 31.

4740
02:20:05,768 --> 02:20:06,503
Under vice chair foley-

4741
02:20:06,503 --> 02:20:07,170
consider second reading and

4742
02:20:07,170 --> 02:20:07,871
adoption of "an ordinance of the

4743
02:20:07,871 --> 02:20:10,400
county of orange, california,

4744
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:12,440
adding division 22 to title 3,

4745
02:20:12,843 --> 02:20:14,111
sections 3-22-1 through 3-22-4,

4746
02:20:14,111 --> 02:20:15,546
relating to the unlawful

4747
02:20:15,546 --> 02:20:16,813
possession of catalytic

4748
02:20:16,813 --> 02:20:17,381
converters, to the codified

4749
02:20:17,381 --> 02:20:20,381
ordinances of the county of

4750
02:20:21,985 --> 02:20:25,422
orange." we have no requests to

4751
02:20:25,422 --> 02:20:27,822
speak on agenda item 31.

4752
02:20:28,859 --> 02:20:31,259
>>chair, doug chaffee: this

4753
02:20:31,895 --> 02:20:33,397
is -- it was continued before.

4754
02:20:33,397 --> 02:20:33,730
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4755
02:20:33,730 --> 02:20:34,231
MR. CHAIRMAN.

4756
02:20:34,231 --> 02:20:34,898
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4757
02:20:34,898 --> 02:20:35,532
vice-chair, it's your item.

4758
02:20:35,532 --> 02:20:38,435
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

4759
02:20:38,435 --> 02:20:39,670
you. I'll move this item. This

4760
02:20:39,670 --> 02:20:42,700
ordinance, our second reading

4761
02:20:43,874 --> 02:20:44,875
makes it unlawful in

4762
02:20:44,875 --> 02:20:46,877
un-incorporated orange county to

4763
02:20:46,877 --> 02:20:47,444
possess even one detached

4764
02:20:47,444 --> 02:20:49,212
catalytic converter without

4765
02:20:49,212 --> 02:20:51,749
proof of ownership. This close

4766
02:20:51,749 --> 02:20:53,150
as loophole in state law which

4767
02:20:53,150 --> 02:20:56,187
actually allows you to have nine

4768
02:20:56,187 --> 02:20:56,687
or more detached catalytic

4769
02:20:56,687 --> 02:20:58,687
converters without proof

4770
02:20:58,789 --> 02:21:00,900
ownership. So the ordinance

4771
02:21:00,900 --> 02:21:00,991
shifts the burden to the

4772
02:21:00,991 --> 02:21:02,393
possessor, allows the

4773
02:21:02,393 --> 02:21:04,393
presumption of unlawful

4774
02:21:04,727 --> 02:21:06,329
possession and treats the

4775
02:21:06,329 --> 02:21:09,232
converter -- each converter as a

4776
02:21:09,232 --> 02:21:10,200
separate offense with civil

4777
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:10,701
penalties. Thank you to the

4778
02:21:10,701 --> 02:21:11,735
sheriff's department and

4779
02:21:11,735 --> 02:21:12,569
district attorney for their

4780
02:21:12,569 --> 02:21:14,805
support of this ordinance. With

4781
02:21:14,805 --> 02:21:15,506
that, I move the item.

4782
02:21:15,506 --> 02:21:16,973
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

4783
02:21:16,973 --> 02:21:18,408
second. Thank you for bringing

4784
02:21:18,408 --> 02:21:20,744
this forward. There are no

4785
02:21:20,744 --> 02:21:21,100
objections. The item is

4786
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:21,745
approved.

4787
02:21:21,745 --> 02:21:23,780
>>vincente sarmiento: I was a no

4788
02:21:23,780 --> 02:21:25,583
during the first reading but I

4789
02:21:25,583 --> 02:21:26,883
will be a no on this one too.

4790
02:21:26,883 --> 02:21:29,283
>>chair, doug chaffee: noting

4791
02:21:31,522 --> 02:21:33,457
the "no" vote. And supplement

4792
02:21:33,457 --> 02:21:34,910
31a...

4793
02:21:34,910 --> 02:21:34,658
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31a.

4794
02:21:34,658 --> 02:21:35,259
Under health care agency-

4795
02:21:35,259 --> 02:21:36,260
approve amendment 1 to renew

4796
02:21:36,260 --> 02:21:37,160
master and individual contracts

4797
02:21:37,160 --> 02:21:38,280
ma042-25010884 for adult peer

4798
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:39,630
support wellness and supported

4799
02:21:39,630 --> 02:21:41,630
employment centers with

4800
02:21:41,131 --> 02:21:42,365
college community services dba

4801
02:21:42,365 --> 02:21:43,600
clarvida, central and south, and

4802
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:44,602
orange county association for

4803
02:21:44,602 --> 02:21:45,669
mental health dba mental health

4804
02:21:45,669 --> 02:21:46,203
association of orange county,

4805
02:21:46,203 --> 02:21:47,400
west, 7/1/26-6/30/28

4806
02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:47,738
(Aggregate total $8,200,000;

4807
02:21:47,738 --> 02:21:48,439
cumulative aggregate total

4808
02:21:48,439 --> 02:21:49,139
$12,300,000); renewable for one

4809
02:21:49,139 --> 02:21:49,940
additional two-year term; and

4810
02:21:49,940 --> 02:21:50,607
authorize county procurement

4811
02:21:50,607 --> 02:21:53,607
officer or deputized designee to

4812
02:21:53,810 --> 02:21:56,280
execute amendments. We have no

4813
02:21:56,280 --> 02:21:57,715
requests to speak on s31a.

4814
02:21:57,715 --> 02:21:59,950
>>chair, doug chaffee: is a

4815
02:21:59,950 --> 02:22:02,530
district 1, 2, and 3 item. Any

4816
02:22:02,530 --> 02:22:03,254
objection? Motion carries.

4817
02:22:03,254 --> 02:22:04,210
Supplement 31b, please.

4818
02:22:04,210 --> 02:22:05,256
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31b.

4819
02:22:05,256 --> 02:22:06,490
Under supervisor sarmiento-

4820
02:22:06,490 --> 02:22:08,250
orange county behavioral health

4821
02:22:08,250 --> 02:22:10,250
advisory board-appoint cesilia

4822
02:22:10,428 --> 02:22:12,828
vega-gonzalez, laguna hills, for

4823
02:22:15,266 --> 02:22:17,767
ending 3/9/29. And we have no

4824
02:22:17,767 --> 02:22:19,237
requests to speak on s31b.

4825
02:22:19,237 --> 02:22:19,870
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4826
02:22:19,870 --> 02:22:21,505
supervisor sarmiento.

4827
02:22:21,505 --> 02:22:21,739
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4828
02:22:21,739 --> 02:22:23,508
second.

4829
02:22:23,508 --> 02:22:24,608
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

4830
02:22:24,608 --> 02:22:25,943
objection? The point is made.

4831
02:22:25,943 --> 02:22:26,877
Supplement 31c.

4832
02:22:26,877 --> 02:22:27,945
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31c.

4833
02:22:27,945 --> 02:22:29,147
Under supervisor sarmiento-

4834
02:22:29,147 --> 02:22:29,980
animal care community outreach

4835
02:22:29,980 --> 02:22:30,748
committee-appoint hollis

4836
02:22:30,748 --> 02:22:33,148
lenore, fountain valley, for

4837
02:22:33,784 --> 02:22:36,119
term ending 4/14/26. We have no

4838
02:22:36,119 --> 02:22:36,888
requests to speak on s31c.

4839
02:22:36,888 --> 02:22:38,888
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4840
02:22:39,156 --> 02:22:41,156
supervisor sarmiento? Second.

4841
02:22:41,959 --> 02:22:44,462
Any objection? There is none.

4842
02:22:44,462 --> 02:22:46,597
Next we have a series of items

4843
02:22:46,597 --> 02:22:49,330
being brought forward by the

4844
02:22:49,330 --> 02:22:51,502
vice-chair. If we could combine

4845
02:22:51,502 --> 02:22:53,771
d through m and also add q, r,

4846
02:22:53,771 --> 02:22:55,172
and s, I believe that's all of

4847
02:22:55,172 --> 02:22:58,772
them. And if the clerk would

4848
02:23:33,678 --> 02:23:35,179
read those items.

4849
02:23:35,179 --> 02:23:36,681
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31d.

4850
02:23:36,681 --> 02:23:38,480
Under vice chair foley-approve

4851
02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:39,984
allocation of $10,000 from fifth

4852
02:23:39,984 --> 02:23:40,251
district discretionary funds to

4853
02:23:40,251 --> 02:23:41,385
parkinson'

4854
02:23:41,385 --> 02:23:43,785
s exercise program for

4855
02:23:45,923 --> 02:23:47,859
you; make related findings under

4856
02:23:47,859 --> 02:23:48,960
government code section 26227;

4857
02:23:48,960 --> 02:23:49,794
authorize county executive

4858
02:23:49,794 --> 02:23:50,995
officer or designee to negotiate

4859
02:23:50,995 --> 02:23:52,997
and enter into agreement as

4860
02:23:52,997 --> 02:23:53,698
necessary; and authorize

4861
02:23:53,698 --> 02:23:55,698
auditor-controller or designee

4862
02:24:02,940 --> 02:24:03,574
to make related payments.

4863
02:24:03,574 --> 02:24:04,375
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31e.

4864
02:24:04,375 --> 02:24:05,760
Under vice chair foley-approve

4865
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:05,809
allocation of $5,000 from fifth

4866
02:24:05,809 --> 02:24:06,610
district discretionary funds to

4867
02:24:06,610 --> 02:24:07,345
san clemente village; make

4868
02:24:07,345 --> 02:24:08,460
related findings under

4869
02:24:08,460 --> 02:24:08,847
government code section 26227;

4870
02:24:08,847 --> 02:24:09,547
authorize county executive

4871
02:24:09,547 --> 02:24:10,315
officer or designee to negotiate

4872
02:24:10,315 --> 02:24:11,149
and enter into agreement as

4873
02:24:11,149 --> 02:24:11,783
necessary; and authorize

4874
02:24:11,783 --> 02:24:13,783
auditor-controller or designee

4875
02:24:13,985 --> 02:24:14,552
to make related payments. Under

4876
02:24:14,552 --> 02:24:15,219
vice chair foley-approve

4877
02:24:15,219 --> 02:24:15,853
allocation of $5,000 from fifth

4878
02:24:15,853 --> 02:24:16,453
district discretionary funds to

4879
02:24:16,453 --> 02:24:17,210
families forward, inc.; make

4880
02:24:17,210 --> 02:24:17,688
related findings under

4881
02:24:17,688 --> 02:24:18,323
government code section 26227;

4882
02:24:18,323 --> 02:24:18,990
authorize county executive

4883
02:24:18,990 --> 02:24:19,790
officer or designee to negotiate

4884
02:24:19,790 --> 02:24:20,491
and enter into agreement as

4885
02:24:20,491 --> 02:24:21,192
necessary; and authorize

4886
02:24:21,192 --> 02:24:23,192
auditor-controller or designee

4887
02:24:23,361 --> 02:24:23,928
to make related payments. Under

4888
02:24:23,928 --> 02:24:24,596
vice chair foley-approve

4889
02:24:24,596 --> 02:24:25,329
allocation of $5,400 from fifth

4890
02:24:25,329 --> 02:24:26,970
district discretionary funds to

4891
02:24:26,970 --> 02:24:26,798
capistrano unified school

4892
02:24:26,798 --> 02:24:27,465
district: marco forster middle

4893
02:24:27,465 --> 02:24:28,132
school library; make related

4894
02:24:28,132 --> 02:24:28,867
findings under government code

4895
02:24:28,867 --> 02:24:29,533
section 26227; authorize county

4896
02:24:29,533 --> 02:24:30,401
executive officer or designee to

4897
02:24:30,401 --> 02:24:31,302
negotiate and enter into

4898
02:24:31,302 --> 02:24:31,969
agreement as necessary; and

4899
02:24:31,969 --> 02:24:33,969
authorize auditor-controller

4900
02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:35,740
or designee to make related payments.

4901
02:24:35,740 --> 02:24:36,440
under vice chair foley-approve

4902
02:24:36,440 --> 02:24:37,308
allocation of $103,633 from

4903
02:24:37,308 --> 02:24:38,800
fifth district discretionary

4904
02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:38,710
funds to south orange county

4905
02:24:38,710 --> 02:24:39,377
community theatre dba camino

4906
02:24:39,377 --> 02:24:41,777
real playhouse; make related

4907
02:24:41,780 --> 02:24:42,514
findings under government code

4908
02:24:42,514 --> 02:24:43,181
section 26227; authorize county

4909
02:24:43,181 --> 02:24:44,115
executive officer or designee to

4910
02:24:44,115 --> 02:24:45,150
negotiate and enter into

4911
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:45,684
agreement as necessary; and

4912
02:24:45,684 --> 02:24:47,684
authorize auditor-controller

4913
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:50,922
or designee to make related payments.

4914
02:24:50,922 --> 02:24:51,957
And we have no requests to speak

4915
02:24:51,957 --> 02:24:52,824
on any of these items.

4916
02:24:52,824 --> 02:24:55,824
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

4917
02:25:16,514 --> 02:25:17,182
move the items as described.?

4918
02:25:17,182 --> 02:25:17,882
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31n.

4919
02:25:17,882 --> 02:25:18,649
Under supervisor wagner-

4920
02:25:18,649 --> 02:25:19,384
approve sponsorship of various

4921
02:25:19,384 --> 02:25:20,218
nonprofit entities from third

4922
02:25:20,218 --> 02:25:20,952
district events funds; approve

4923
02:25:20,952 --> 02:25:21,720
addition or revision of events

4924
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:22,420
to fy 2025-26 county events

4925
02:25:22,420 --> 02:25:23,254
calendar; make related findings

4926
02:25:23,254 --> 02:25:23,922
under government code section

4927
02:25:23,922 --> 02:25:24,688
26227; and authorize

4928
02:25:24,688 --> 02:25:26,688
auditorcontroller to make

4929
02:25:28,460 --> 02:25:29,427
related payments. The we have no

4930
02:25:29,427 --> 02:25:30,262
requests to speak.

4931
02:25:30,262 --> 02:25:33,130
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

4932
02:25:33,130 --> 02:25:34,433
seconded. Motion is approved.

4933
02:25:34,433 --> 02:25:35,100
Supplement 31o.

4934
02:25:35,100 --> 02:25:35,867
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31o.

4935
02:25:35,867 --> 02:25:36,734
Under supervisor sarmiento-

4936
02:25:36,734 --> 02:25:37,569
approve sponsorship of various

4937
02:25:37,569 --> 02:25:38,336
nonprofit entities from second

4938
02:25:38,336 --> 02:25:39,538
district events funds; approve

4939
02:25:39,538 --> 02:25:40,405
addition or revision of events

4940
02:25:40,405 --> 02:25:41,339
to fy 2025-26 county events

4941
02:25:41,339 --> 02:25:43,408
calendar; make related findings

4942
02:25:43,408 --> 02:25:44,900
under government code section

4943
02:25:44,900 --> 02:25:44,809
26227; and authorize

4944
02:25:44,809 --> 02:25:46,809
auditor-controller to make

4945
02:25:50,849 --> 02:25:53,285
related payments. And we have no

4946
02:25:53,285 --> 02:25:54,852
requests to speak on s31o.

4947
02:25:54,852 --> 02:25:56,852
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4948
02:25:56,922 --> 02:25:58,623
supervisor sarmiento? Moved and

4949
02:25:58,623 --> 02:26:00,623
seconded, any objections?

4950
02:26:00,925 --> 02:26:02,693
Seeing none. Approved. Now we

4951
02:26:02,693 --> 02:26:03,462
come to supplement 31p.

4952
02:26:03,462 --> 02:26:04,229
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31p.

4953
02:26:04,229 --> 02:26:04,963
Under chair chaffee-approve

4954
02:26:04,963 --> 02:26:05,697
sponsorship of nonprofit

4955
02:26:05,697 --> 02:26:06,498
ethiopian-american generational

4956
02:26:06,498 --> 02:26:07,399
bridge organization from fourth

4957
02:26:07,399 --> 02:26:08,100
district events funds; approve

4958
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:08,867
addition or revision of events

4959
02:26:08,867 --> 02:26:11,867
to fy 2025-26 county events

4960
02:26:12,905 --> 02:26:14,572
calendar; make related findings

4961
02:26:14,572 --> 02:26:15,973
under government code section

4962
02:26:15,973 --> 02:26:17,174
26227; and authorize

4963
02:26:17,174 --> 02:26:19,174
auditor-controller to make

4964
02:26:21,713 --> 02:26:23,215
related payments. And MR. Chair,

4965
02:26:23,215 --> 02:26:25,249
we have received one request to

4966
02:26:25,249 --> 02:26:27,649
speak on s31p.

4967
02:26:28,530 --> 02:26:28,720
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

4968
02:26:28,720 --> 02:26:30,720
call speaker.

4969
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:47,238
>>clerk, robin stieler: donora.

4970
02:26:47,238 --> 02:26:49,274
>>speaker: a lot of problems in

4971
02:26:49,274 --> 02:26:52,274
the government. Thank GOD I'm

4972
02:26:52,344 --> 02:26:55,344
still here. What was that

4973
02:26:56,915 --> 02:26:58,917
again? That number, please?

4974
02:26:58,917 --> 02:27:00,419
>>clerk, robin stieler: 31p.

4975
02:27:00,419 --> 02:27:01,587
>>speaker: now, I trust the

4976
02:27:01,587 --> 02:27:04,587
chair, MR. Chaffee, you can

4977
02:27:07,359 --> 02:27:09,261
explain it to me that again,

4978
02:27:09,261 --> 02:27:11,396
that way I can translate into

4979
02:27:11,396 --> 02:27:13,699
spanish and english and then I

4980
02:27:13,699 --> 02:27:14,600
can be respond. Thank you.

4981
02:27:14,600 --> 02:27:17,335
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: this

4982
02:27:17,335 --> 02:27:19,380
item relates to support for

4983
02:27:19,380 --> 02:27:19,471
ethiopian american generational

4984
02:27:19,471 --> 02:27:20,720
bridge organization.

4985
02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:23,720
>>chair, doug chaffee: do you

4986
02:27:23,676 --> 02:27:25,911
want to speak on that.

4987
02:27:25,911 --> 02:27:28,313
>>speaker: well, I'm from cuba,

4988
02:27:28,313 --> 02:27:29,810
not ethiopia. So I pass, but I

4989
02:27:29,810 --> 02:27:30,549
would like to make an

4990
02:27:30,549 --> 02:27:31,150
appointment with the chair.

4991
02:27:31,150 --> 02:27:32,184
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's

4992
02:27:32,184 --> 02:27:33,651
not part of this item. So.

4993
02:27:33,651 --> 02:27:35,651
>>speaker: thank you.

4994
02:27:36,255 --> 02:27:39,255
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

4995
02:27:39,691 --> 02:27:42,910
you. Second. Any objection?

4996
02:27:45,230 --> 02:27:48,830
Motion carries. Now we come to

4997
02:27:52,871 --> 02:27:53,505
supplement 31t.

4998
02:27:53,505 --> 02:27:54,139
>>clerk, robin stieler: s31t.

4999
02:27:54,139 --> 02:27:54,773
Under supervisor sarmiento-

5000
02:27:54,773 --> 02:27:55,440
approve use of $75,000 from

5001
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:56,108
second district, budget control

5002
02:27:56,108 --> 02:27:56,774
007 to first five orange county

5003
02:27:56,774 --> 02:27:57,375
for childcare business incubator

5004
02:27:57,375 --> 02:27:58,109
program; make related findings

5005
02:27:58,109 --> 02:27:58,844
under government code section

5006
02:27:58,844 --> 02:27:59,511
26227; authorize county

5007
02:27:59,511 --> 02:28:00,112
executive officer or designee to

5008
02:28:00,112 --> 02:28:00,813
negotiate and enter into

5009
02:28:00,813 --> 02:28:01,480
agreement as necessary; and

5010
02:28:01,480 --> 02:28:03,480
authorize auditor-controller or

5011
02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:11,200
designee to make related payments.

5012
02:28:12,324 --> 02:28:15,761
And we have no if to speak on

5013
02:28:15,761 --> 02:28:17,196
s31t.

5014
02:28:17,196 --> 02:28:18,264
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

5015
02:28:18,264 --> 02:28:20,466
objection? Motion carries. We

5016
02:28:20,466 --> 02:28:24,660
come to item 32, which is a

5017
02:28:24,603 --> 02:28:25,237
public hearing.

5018
02:28:25,237 --> 02:28:25,971
>>clerk, robin stieler: 32.

5019
02:28:25,971 --> 02:28:26,739
Under county executive office-

5020
02:28:26,739 --> 02:28:27,506
public hearing to consider

5021
02:28:27,506 --> 02:28:28,240
adopting resolutions of

5022
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:28,941
necessity acquiring by eminent

5023
02:28:28,941 --> 02:28:29,675
domain easements for silverado

5024
02:28:29,675 --> 02:28:30,375
canyon road bridge replacement

5025
02:28:30,375 --> 02:28:32,375
project; authorizing county

5026
02:28:32,545 --> 02:28:34,812
counsel to retain outside

5027
02:28:34,812 --> 02:28:36,810
eminent domain counsel bdg law

5028
02:28:36,810 --> 02:28:37,450
group inc. And initiate

5029
02:28:37,450 --> 02:28:38,650
condemnation proceedings; and

5030
02:28:38,650 --> 02:28:39,552
directing and authorizing

5031
02:28:39,552 --> 02:28:40,619
auditorcontroller to encumber

5032
02:28:40,619 --> 02:28:41,620
and transfer compensation under

5033
02:28:41,620 --> 02:28:44,200
certain conditions and making

5034
02:28:45,957 --> 02:28:48,357
related findings. This item

5035
02:28:49,929 --> 02:28:51,830
does require a 2/3 vote of the

5036
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:53,830
monopoly.

5037
02:28:53,966 --> 02:28:55,167
>>chair, doug chaffee: let me --

5038
02:28:55,167 --> 02:28:56,168
vote of the membership.

5039
02:28:56,168 --> 02:28:57,970
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

5040
02:28:57,970 --> 02:28:58,704
right, do we have any members

5041
02:28:58,704 --> 02:29:01,400
who wish to speak.

5042
02:29:01,400 --> 02:29:01,940
>>clerk, robin stieler: no.

5043
02:29:01,940 --> 02:29:02,742
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll

5044
02:29:02,742 --> 02:29:04,277
bring it back to the board for

5045
02:29:04,277 --> 02:29:06,677
consideration. This is a

5046
02:29:08,114 --> 02:29:10,514
district 3 item. Moved and

5047
02:29:11,484 --> 02:29:14,484
second. Any objection? We have

5048
02:29:14,620 --> 02:29:17,990
a unanimous vote, so the item is

5049
02:29:17,990 --> 02:29:20,159
approved. Now we could come at

5050
02:29:20,159 --> 02:29:22,661
this point to closed sessions.

5051
02:29:22,661 --> 02:29:24,163
was that -- would you like to do

5052
02:29:24,163 --> 02:29:26,980
that or -- do public comments?

5053
02:29:26,980 --> 02:29:27,133
All right. MADAM Clerk, how

5054
02:29:27,133 --> 02:29:27,332
many public comments do we

5055
02:29:27,332 --> 02:29:29,332
have.

5056
02:29:30,236 --> 02:29:32,636
>>clerk, robin stieler: nine.

5057
02:29:33,272 --> 02:29:36,272
>>chair, doug chaffee: nine. I

5058
02:29:37,175 --> 02:29:39,312
thought I heard "none." that

5059
02:29:39,312 --> 02:29:41,712
sounded intriguing, but it's

5060
02:29:45,351 --> 02:29:46,719
"nine." okay. Would you like

5061
02:29:46,719 --> 02:29:49,388
to do board comments before

5062
02:29:49,388 --> 02:29:50,189
closed sessions? We can do

5063
02:29:50,189 --> 02:29:51,724
that. Let's get to public

5064
02:29:51,724 --> 02:29:53,893
comments, and then we'll follow

5065
02:29:53,893 --> 02:29:55,328
with that, okay. Please call

5066
02:29:55,328 --> 02:29:55,894
the speakers.

5067
02:29:55,894 --> 02:29:57,130
>>clerk, robin stieler: I'll

5068
02:29:57,130 --> 02:29:58,530
call three names at a time.

5069
02:29:58,530 --> 02:30:00,266
Please line up at the center of

5070
02:30:00,266 --> 02:30:02,368
the room when your name is

5071
02:30:02,368 --> 02:30:05,368
called behind the podium, steve

5072
02:30:05,671 --> 02:30:08,671
rocco, paul hayek and greg

5073
02:30:19,953 --> 02:30:21,587
arrowsmith..

5074
02:30:21,587 --> 02:30:23,220
>>speaker: if you see something,

5075
02:30:23,220 --> 02:30:25,425
say something. If you see

5076
02:30:25,425 --> 02:30:27,761
something, say something. That

5077
02:30:27,761 --> 02:30:28,961
was a calling cry at last

5078
02:30:28,961 --> 02:30:30,863
meeting that I spoke out on

5079
02:30:30,863 --> 02:30:33,299
JANUARY the 27th. Well, I did

5080
02:30:33,299 --> 02:30:35,468
say something. And I talked

5081
02:30:35,468 --> 02:30:39,680
about the home inveighs of my

5082
02:30:39,839 --> 02:30:41,440
home. And at the same time, my

5083
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:43,877
home was being invaded. How

5084
02:30:43,877 --> 02:30:47,447
about that? And by pretty much

5085
02:30:47,447 --> 02:30:51,470
the same people. Let's see, my

5086
02:30:53,190 --> 02:30:55,854
grass is too high, I got bugs.

5087
02:30:55,854 --> 02:30:57,557
Plus, I owe the city over

5088
02:30:57,557 --> 02:30:59,959
$16,000 for a water bill. What

5089
02:30:59,959 --> 02:31:01,494
does that sound like to you? It

5090
02:31:01,494 --> 02:31:02,895
sounds like persecution,

5091
02:31:02,895 --> 02:31:03,830
prosecution. Sounds like

5092
02:31:03,830 --> 02:31:05,830
special prosecution. Sounds

5093
02:31:07,333 --> 02:31:10,333
like a special project. You

5094
02:31:10,570 --> 02:31:12,771
went to the fbi to get rid of

5095
02:31:12,771 --> 02:31:15,174
do. Why aren't you going to the

5096
02:31:15,174 --> 02:31:16,800
fbi to get rid of spitzer?

5097
02:31:16,800 --> 02:31:18,800
,

5098
02:31:20,413 --> 02:31:23,149
who's a sexual pervert. Prove

5099
02:31:23,149 --> 02:31:25,510
it. Hates christians. Hates

5100
02:31:25,510 --> 02:31:27,586
christians. Pulled a gun on

5101
02:31:27,586 --> 02:31:29,622
one. And yet that's okay with

5102
02:31:29,622 --> 02:31:31,622
you. Because criminal

5103
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:34,928
politicians are okay with ooh

5104
02:31:34,928 --> 02:31:37,263
guys. You know, over the united

5105
02:31:37,263 --> 02:31:39,650
states supreme court in

5106
02:31:39,650 --> 02:31:41,670
washington D.C. There's a sign

5107
02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:43,703
which says "equal justice under

5108
02:31:43,703 --> 02:31:45,705
the law." this does not mean

5109
02:31:45,705 --> 02:31:47,240
equality in all things. It

5110
02:31:47,240 --> 02:31:48,374
doesn't mean you can go to the

5111
02:31:48,374 --> 02:31:51,974
same bathroom as me if you're

5112
02:31:52,579 --> 02:31:53,146
not the same gender. It means

5113
02:31:53,146 --> 02:31:56,146
equality under the law. You

5114
02:31:58,118 --> 02:31:59,119
have the same political rights.

5115
02:31:59,119 --> 02:32:01,519
Political rights is something

5116
02:32:04,624 --> 02:32:07,240
else, okay. Diversity and

5117
02:32:08,930 --> 02:32:10,597
equality are not the same thing.

5118
02:32:10,597 --> 02:32:12,832
Diversity gives an empire.

5119
02:32:12,832 --> 02:32:16,432
Washington D.C. Was built to

5120
02:32:18,138 --> 02:32:21,138
look like rome. Marvel --

5121
02:32:22,409 --> 02:32:25,409
marble, columns, and the whole

5122
02:32:27,113 --> 02:32:29,513
shebang. And equality means

5123
02:32:33,587 --> 02:32:35,880
sameness. Similarity.. Nation

5124
02:32:35,880 --> 02:32:36,690
and empire are not the same

5125
02:32:36,690 --> 02:32:38,240
thing. Uncle sam loves

5126
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:40,227
diversity because you're not

5127
02:32:40,227 --> 02:32:41,828
going to be a majority. And the

5128
02:32:41,828 --> 02:32:44,264
government will tell you what to

5129
02:32:44,264 --> 02:32:46,666
do, not vice-versa. You can't

5130
02:32:46,666 --> 02:32:50,266
have it both ways. You can't

5131
02:32:50,303 --> 02:32:51,905
have it both ways. They are

5132
02:32:51,905 --> 02:32:53,905
contradicter to. It's

5133
02:32:55,542 --> 02:32:57,477
either/or. Uncle sam's

5134
02:32:57,477 --> 02:33:00,380
diversity or sameness, a nation,

5135
02:33:00,380 --> 02:33:01,882
a real nation. And you know

5136
02:33:01,882 --> 02:33:03,984
what, it's people like me who

5137
02:33:03,984 --> 02:33:06,353
are being discriminated against

5138
02:33:06,353 --> 02:33:08,722
today. White christian males,

5139
02:33:08,722 --> 02:33:09,623
number one on the list.

5140
02:33:09,623 --> 02:33:11,858
Equality, take a look at the

5141
02:33:11,858 --> 02:33:14,694
sports. I couldn't find a white

5142
02:33:14,694 --> 02:33:18,294
face there for the entire last

5143
02:33:26,372 --> 02:33:27,974
week.S.

5144
02:33:27,974 --> 02:33:30,374
>>speaker: good afternoon. Good

5145
02:33:30,844 --> 02:33:33,980
morning, I mean. We need to

5146
02:33:33,980 --> 02:33:36,980
make sure these new operators

5147
02:33:40,354 --> 02:33:43,890
for these shelters are make them

5148
02:33:43,890 --> 02:33:46,292
wear they're -- where they are

5149
02:33:46,292 --> 02:33:47,594
walk in/walk out. Why don't we

5150
02:33:47,594 --> 02:33:49,396
hire those that have the trades

5151
02:33:49,396 --> 02:33:52,232
to help run the place? Because

5152
02:33:52,232 --> 02:33:56,303
they'd be glad to help run it

5153
02:33:56,303 --> 02:33:59,303
and make minimum wage. Let's

5154
02:34:00,140 --> 02:34:03,740
see them turn this place around.

5155
02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:06,312
Remember, back in '17 I was

5156
02:34:06,312 --> 02:34:08,482
advocating for the homeless

5157
02:34:08,482 --> 02:34:10,750
shelter in anaheim. I was there

5158
02:34:10,750 --> 02:34:12,586
when they dedicated it. I was

5159
02:34:12,586 --> 02:34:15,586
there for eight months, and

5160
02:34:16,156 --> 02:34:18,658
mercy house has to go. And the

5161
02:34:18,658 --> 02:34:20,660
one in santa ana is being run by

5162
02:34:20,660 --> 02:34:23,660
a foreign company. They're not

5163
02:34:25,199 --> 02:34:28,935
even a U.S.. And mercy house is

5164
02:34:28,935 --> 02:34:32,239
run by a hawaiian with hawaiian

5165
02:34:32,239 --> 02:34:33,840
security.

5166
02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:36,840
>>clerk, robin stieler: the next

5167
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:42,120
three superiors are donora, l

5168
02:34:43,550 --> 02:34:44,885
uci daniel and nicole nguyen.

5169
02:34:44,885 --> 02:34:46,853
>>speaker: presentation z mailed

5170
02:34:46,853 --> 02:34:49,290
to the usdoj, california brown

5171
02:34:49,290 --> 02:34:50,560
act of 1953, forcing local

5172
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:52,125
government agencies to be

5173
02:34:52,125 --> 02:34:53,860
transparent with the tax paying

5174
02:34:53,860 --> 02:34:56,260
citizens. Had an introduction

5175
02:34:56,764 --> 02:34:57,498
meeting with sheriff chad dee

5176
02:34:57,498 --> 02:34:58,465
bianco, government candidate and

5177
02:34:58,465 --> 02:35:00,133
michael gates, attorney general

5178
02:35:00,133 --> 02:35:02,102
candidate at the elks lodge in

5179
02:35:02,102 --> 02:35:05,102
santa ana last tuesday night.

5180
02:35:05,105 --> 02:35:06,600
They were both real, genuine and

5181
02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:06,207
approachable guys that have the

5182
02:35:06,207 --> 02:35:07,708
resume

5183
02:35:07,708 --> 02:35:08,943
and experience to make

5184
02:35:08,943 --> 02:35:09,844
california golden again. They

5185
02:35:09,844 --> 02:35:10,777
are eager to put their words

5186
02:35:10,777 --> 02:35:12,880
into action for the best

5187
02:35:12,880 --> 02:35:14,880
interest of californians.

5188
02:35:15,983 --> 02:35:16,917
Focus, offender recidivism and

5189
02:35:16,917 --> 02:35:19,917
re-entry in the united states,

5190
02:35:22,890 --> 02:35:25,325
crime in america net leonard

5191
02:35:25,325 --> 02:35:26,627
adam signs junior 2026, U.S.

5192
02:35:26,627 --> 02:35:28,294
Department of justice bureau of

5193
02:35:28,294 --> 02:35:30,294
justice statistics 68% of

5194
02:35:30,697 --> 02:35:33,000
prisoners were released with a

5195
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:36,000
new arrest within three years

5196
02:35:39,740 --> 02:35:40,241
and 77% in five years.

5197
02:35:40,241 --> 02:35:40,875
California correctional

5198
02:35:40,875 --> 02:35:43,275
facilities issues from colleges

5199
02:35:44,912 --> 02:35:46,547
of law.Edu, overcrowding and

5200
02:35:46,547 --> 02:35:47,181
inadequate handling of

5201
02:35:47,181 --> 02:35:49,149
complaints and violence within

5202
02:35:49,149 --> 02:35:50,651
the system. California

5203
02:35:50,651 --> 02:35:52,520
correctional facilities remain

5204
02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:53,688
over capacity which affects

5205
02:35:53,688 --> 02:35:55,289
safety and rehabilitation

5206
02:35:55,289 --> 02:35:57,558
efforts. Overcrowding leads to

5207
02:35:57,558 --> 02:35:59,393
increased violence and undermine

5208
02:35:59,393 --> 02:36:00,761
security measures. Problem,

5209
02:36:00,761 --> 02:36:02,797
there are three hours of actual

5210
02:36:02,797 --> 02:36:04,365
work assignments and or

5211
02:36:04,365 --> 02:36:05,766
educational programs that an

5212
02:36:05,766 --> 02:36:06,767
inmate will accomplish in a

5213
02:36:06,767 --> 02:36:08,903
15-hour day, according to the

5214
02:36:08,903 --> 02:36:09,704
typical daily schedule for

5215
02:36:09,704 --> 02:36:10,371
inmates in the california

5216
02:36:10,371 --> 02:36:12,371
correctional facilities. In

5217
02:36:14,141 --> 02:36:15,743
other words, the typical daily

5218
02:36:15,743 --> 02:36:17,377
schedule focuses more on a day

5219
02:36:17,377 --> 02:36:18,946
camp schedule for criminal

5220
02:36:18,946 --> 02:36:20,481
versus a work schedule to

5221
02:36:20,481 --> 02:36:21,949
prepare him or her to be

5222
02:36:21,949 --> 02:36:23,416
productive tax paying citizens

5223
02:36:23,416 --> 02:36:25,219
in society. The overcrowding

5224
02:36:25,219 --> 02:36:26,753
and violence in these facilities

5225
02:36:26,753 --> 02:36:29,757
makes sense due to these inmates

5226
02:36:29,757 --> 02:36:31,926
have too much time on their

5227
02:36:31,926 --> 02:36:33,693
hands for shenanigans. It

5228
02:36:33,693 --> 02:36:35,620
appears that the offenders'

5229
02:36:35,620 --> 02:36:36,497
behavior will accept returning

5230
02:36:36,497 --> 02:36:37,932
back to a correctional facility

5231
02:36:37,932 --> 02:36:39,433
knowing that he or she has a

5232
02:36:39,433 --> 02:36:41,769
criminal day camp waiting for

5233
02:36:41,769 --> 02:36:42,436
him or her. Solution, as a tax

5234
02:36:42,436 --> 02:36:44,272
paying citizens I'd like to have

5235
02:36:44,272 --> 02:36:45,572
the opportunity to revise a

5236
02:36:45,572 --> 02:36:46,674
typical daily schedule for

5237
02:36:46,674 --> 02:36:48,142
inmates. These inmates,

5238
02:36:48,142 --> 02:36:49,110
prisons, jails, juvenile

5239
02:36:49,110 --> 02:36:51,379
detentions should be working

5240
02:36:51,379 --> 02:36:52,713
eight hours a day for five days

5241
02:36:52,713 --> 02:36:54,782
a week. They will be allowed to

5242
02:36:54,782 --> 02:36:57,485
have a daily 30-minute lunch and

5243
02:36:57,485 --> 02:36:58,252
two 15-minute breaks to be

5244
02:36:58,252 --> 02:37:00,354
complying with california labor

5245
02:37:00,354 --> 02:37:03,354
laws. The inmates will execute

5246
02:37:03,491 --> 02:37:04,759
a self development and

5247
02:37:04,759 --> 02:37:06,227
educational class during day 6

5248
02:37:06,227 --> 02:37:08,563
and 7 and after work. The goal

5249
02:37:08,563 --> 02:37:09,197
is to have the california

5250
02:37:09,197 --> 02:37:11,990
correctional facilities execute

5251
02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:12,667
a curriculum that will motivate

5252
02:37:12,667 --> 02:37:15,360
the inmates to not want to go

5253
02:37:15,360 --> 02:37:17,205
back to a correctional facility

5254
02:37:17,205 --> 02:37:18,506
ever again in a lifetime.

5255
02:37:18,506 --> 02:37:19,640
Temporary housing, dorms,

5256
02:37:19,640 --> 02:37:21,420
continued education and job

5257
02:37:21,420 --> 02:37:23,244
placement during the inmate

5258
02:37:23,244 --> 02:37:24,879
release program is crucial to

5259
02:37:24,879 --> 02:37:28,479
get him or her heading towards

5260
02:37:30,217 --> 02:37:31,686
the right direction for success.

5261
02:37:31,686 --> 02:37:34,686
>>chair, doug chaffee: MAY we

5262
02:37:37,570 --> 02:37:38,660
have the next speaker, please.

5263
02:37:38,660 --> 02:37:40,962
>>speaker: thank you, again.

5264
02:37:40,962 --> 02:37:45,162
Just want to say I still have

5265
02:37:45,399 --> 02:37:49,599
love for all you guys being a

5266
02:37:50,138 --> 02:37:52,407
christian pentecostal parent and

5267
02:37:52,407 --> 02:37:54,642
pastor be pentecostal and my

5268
02:37:54,642 --> 02:37:56,310
father was an architect. We

5269
02:37:56,310 --> 02:37:59,514
went to church seven days a week

5270
02:37:59,514 --> 02:38:03,114
to keep us focused from the

5271
02:38:03,251 --> 02:38:04,852
communists. I got sick from a

5272
02:38:04,852 --> 02:38:07,852
hearing, then it was government.

5273
02:38:09,900 --> 02:38:10,825
Not america. It was depraved

5274
02:38:10,825 --> 02:38:12,427
house, discriminated and I have

5275
02:38:12,427 --> 02:38:14,129
my alien number. This number

5276
02:38:14,129 --> 02:38:15,629
congress will now that they

5277
02:38:15,629 --> 02:38:17,966
brought me from cuba, supposed

5278
02:38:17,966 --> 02:38:20,966
to be protected under federal

5279
02:38:23,405 --> 02:38:27,500
statute and still today. So the

5280
02:38:27,108 --> 02:38:28,543
government has -- I'm praying

5281
02:38:28,543 --> 02:38:31,446
that they focus on illegal

5282
02:38:31,446 --> 02:38:32,680
immigrant U.S. Citizens that

5283
02:38:32,680 --> 02:38:34,616
work and pay taxes. Many

5284
02:38:34,616 --> 02:38:36,284
people, you see it in the media,

5285
02:38:36,284 --> 02:38:38,319
they are not legal. They are

5286
02:38:38,319 --> 02:38:39,921
aggressive against police

5287
02:38:39,921 --> 02:38:41,423
officer and I.C.E., and I'm

5288
02:38:41,423 --> 02:38:43,291
crying what the heck went wrong

5289
02:38:43,291 --> 02:38:46,194
in orange county that we grew up

5290
02:38:46,194 --> 02:38:49,197
in orange county, went to orange

5291
02:38:49,197 --> 02:38:50,799
high school where america taught

5292
02:38:50,799 --> 02:38:53,301
us how to speak english. There

5293
02:38:53,301 --> 02:38:54,569
was no one from mexico, with all

5294
02:38:54,569 --> 02:38:56,969
due respect, running orange

5295
02:38:58,372 --> 02:39:01,372
county back in 1969. So I'm

5296
02:39:02,770 --> 02:39:05,770
requesting our origin -- an

5297
02:39:05,212 --> 02:39:07,612
urgent appointment with the

5298
02:39:07,615 --> 02:39:10,510
chair doug chaffee as soon as

5299
02:39:10,510 --> 02:39:12,187
possible and, again, the chief

5300
02:39:12,187 --> 02:39:13,588
janet nguyen refuse to make me

5301
02:39:13,588 --> 02:39:15,889
an appointment. And you guys

5302
02:39:15,889 --> 02:39:18,226
have seen me since 2018 and 19.

5303
02:39:18,226 --> 02:39:19,930
And thank GOD I'm a great human

5304
02:39:19,930 --> 02:39:20,695
being to guiding other people

5305
02:39:20,695 --> 02:39:23,310
that are still standing. So

5306
02:39:23,310 --> 02:39:25,267
please it's urgent an

5307
02:39:25,267 --> 02:39:26,668
appointment with doug chaffee be

5308
02:39:26,668 --> 02:39:28,403
blessed in hoping to make

5309
02:39:28,403 --> 02:39:30,380
america great for all of us. If

5310
02:39:30,380 --> 02:39:33,638
you don't fix it, this will

5311
02:39:36,577 --> 02:39:37,212
never be the united states of

5312
02:39:37,212 --> 02:39:37,846
america anymore. My parents are

5313
02:39:37,846 --> 02:39:39,881
in heaven. They are the reason

5314
02:39:39,881 --> 02:39:42,684
why we are here, they prepare

5315
02:39:42,684 --> 02:39:45,840
possible under kennedy. We

5316
02:39:46,521 --> 02:39:47,155
waited, and thank GOD we here.

5317
02:39:47,155 --> 02:39:47,789
But this is not the country that

5318
02:39:47,789 --> 02:39:51,159
we grow up. But we still have

5319
02:39:51,159 --> 02:39:51,993
love for you guys. You.

5320
02:39:51,993 --> 02:39:53,795
>>chair, doug chaffee: the next

5321
02:39:53,795 --> 02:39:55,795
speaker, please.

5322
02:39:55,997 --> 02:39:58,997
>>clerk, robin stieler: l uci

5323
02:40:00,335 --> 02:40:02,735
daniel and nicole nguyen.

5324
02:40:02,904 --> 02:40:05,874
>>speaker: hello. I'm here to

5325
02:40:05,874 --> 02:40:08,776
explain that I am a home care

5326
02:40:08,776 --> 02:40:11,776
provider with ihss for 14 years.

5327
02:40:12,514 --> 02:40:13,415
I take care of my mom for 14

5328
02:40:13,415 --> 02:40:15,150
years, and I do everything for

5329
02:40:15,150 --> 02:40:18,150
her. She cannot live by

5330
02:40:18,220 --> 02:40:20,620
herself. She's 92. And her

5331
02:40:20,989 --> 02:40:24,589
mind strong, but she is very

5332
02:40:25,270 --> 02:40:25,994
weak for her age. And she needs

5333
02:40:25,994 --> 02:40:28,994
help with everything. I cook

5334
02:40:29,765 --> 02:40:31,934
for her. I clean. I bathe her,

5335
02:40:31,934 --> 02:40:34,870
I MAY being sure she takes her

5336
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:36,405
medication. I take her to the

5337
02:40:36,405 --> 02:40:38,106
doctor's, sometimes I take her

5338
02:40:38,106 --> 02:40:41,143
out to the store. That's what

5339
02:40:41,143 --> 02:40:42,744
she likes to do mostly, to go

5340
02:40:42,744 --> 02:40:45,144
shopping. And I'm just

5341
02:40:47,649 --> 02:40:49,684
explaining that because we don't

5342
02:40:49,684 --> 02:40:51,486
get paid very much, but it helps

5343
02:40:51,486 --> 02:40:54,289
us to stay with the people we

5344
02:40:54,289 --> 02:40:56,591
take care of. Like it helps me

5345
02:40:56,591 --> 02:41:00,562
to stay home with my mom because

5346
02:41:00,562 --> 02:41:03,398
of the ihss program because I

5347
02:41:03,398 --> 02:41:05,200
can be -- I'm a certified

5348
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:07,836
paralegal. I could have a job

5349
02:41:07,836 --> 02:41:08,837
like I used to work with the

5350
02:41:08,837 --> 02:41:11,407
lawyers, and making a lot more

5351
02:41:11,407 --> 02:41:14,430
money. But I chose this because

5352
02:41:14,430 --> 02:41:16,512
I love my mom, and I have to

5353
02:41:16,512 --> 02:41:18,120
take care of her, or -- I don't

5354
02:41:18,120 --> 02:41:19,648
want to put her in a nursing

5355
02:41:19,648 --> 02:41:21,216
home because she gets very

5356
02:41:21,216 --> 02:41:22,817
depressed when she thinks about

5357
02:41:22,817 --> 02:41:25,754
what if she goes to a nursing

5358
02:41:25,754 --> 02:41:28,690
home. And that's not a good

5359
02:41:28,690 --> 02:41:31,226
thing for her, but she's healthy

5360
02:41:31,226 --> 02:41:33,195
and her mind is strong because

5361
02:41:33,195 --> 02:41:35,530
of my care. And I just want to

5362
02:41:35,530 --> 02:41:39,730
make sure that we try to keep

5363
02:41:41,690 --> 02:41:42,604
the ihss program for the

5364
02:41:42,604 --> 02:41:44,600
disabled and the elderly.

5365
02:41:44,600 --> 02:41:47,141
They're better off at home than

5366
02:41:47,141 --> 02:41:49,511
a nurse home. That's all I'm

5367
02:41:49,511 --> 02:41:52,581
saying. And when my mom's had

5368
02:41:52,581 --> 02:41:54,816
to go for therapy to a nursing

5369
02:41:54,816 --> 02:41:56,417
home, she just cried almost

5370
02:41:56,417 --> 02:41:58,621
every day. She was so

5371
02:41:58,621 --> 02:42:00,923
depressed. It's better if they

5372
02:42:00,923 --> 02:42:04,523
stay home. So thank you for

5373
02:42:04,793 --> 02:42:06,793
your time.

5374
02:42:07,620 --> 02:42:08,497
>>clerk, robin stieler: after

5375
02:42:08,497 --> 02:42:10,866
nicole, the last three speakers

5376
02:42:10,866 --> 02:42:11,700
are katherine louie, andrew and

5377
02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:13,700
brian kay.

5378
02:42:13,836 --> 02:42:16,236
>>speaker: good morning, board.

5379
02:42:17,372 --> 02:42:20,775
I am nicole nguyen, and I'm an

5380
02:42:20,775 --> 02:42:21,810
ihss provider. I live -- I have

5381
02:42:21,810 --> 02:42:25,410
been a provider for five years.

5382
02:42:25,514 --> 02:42:29,714
I care for my cousin, my first

5383
02:42:29,752 --> 02:42:31,787
cousin. I'm a resident of santa

5384
02:42:31,787 --> 02:42:35,387
ana and district 2. What I do

5385
02:42:35,590 --> 02:42:39,940
for my cousin -- and what I care

5386
02:42:39,940 --> 02:42:41,564
for my cousin, I MAY being sure

5387
02:42:41,564 --> 02:42:43,866
that she take her medication on

5388
02:42:43,866 --> 02:42:46,168
time and make sure she has her

5389
02:42:46,168 --> 02:42:49,168
refill medication on time too.

5390
02:42:50,606 --> 02:42:52,408
She is 83 years old. She's not

5391
02:42:52,408 --> 02:42:53,843
healthy, not physically and not

5392
02:42:53,843 --> 02:42:57,443
mentally. I care for her. I

5393
02:42:58,848 --> 02:43:02,885
MAY being sure she can eat. She

5394
02:43:02,885 --> 02:43:05,187
cannot eat likely, she can have

5395
02:43:05,187 --> 02:43:06,222
proper food, and I gotta help

5396
02:43:06,222 --> 02:43:07,924
her in and out of my car for

5397
02:43:07,924 --> 02:43:09,825
doctors, pharmacist or anywhere

5398
02:43:09,825 --> 02:43:12,261
she want to go. My work, my

5399
02:43:12,261 --> 02:43:15,261
helping her is very important,

5400
02:43:16,980 --> 02:43:20,298
that allow her to stay home and

5401
02:43:23,306 --> 02:43:23,840
be comfortable with respect. I

5402
02:43:23,840 --> 02:43:26,240
really appreciate the ihss

5403
02:43:27,910 --> 02:43:32,110
program to allow me to take care

5404
02:43:43,693 --> 02:43:46,930
of my cousin. And

5405
02:43:46,262 --> 02:43:49,862
>>speaker: I'd like to provide a

5406
02:43:50,433 --> 02:43:51,467
little help. My name is

5407
02:43:51,467 --> 02:43:54,467
katherine louie. I'm a proud

5408
02:43:55,905 --> 02:43:57,507
member of udw. And I'm an ihss

5409
02:43:57,507 --> 02:43:59,374
provider. I live in the city of

5410
02:43:59,374 --> 02:44:00,443
cota decause sarc I've been a

5411
02:44:00,443 --> 02:44:02,440
provider for 17 years, and I

5412
02:44:02,440 --> 02:44:05,644
take care of my beautiful boy,

5413
02:44:08,284 --> 02:44:10,586
as you can see. He is 19 years

5414
02:44:10,586 --> 02:44:12,355
old -- he is 19 years old, and

5415
02:44:12,355 --> 02:44:13,623
I've cared for him since the day

5416
02:44:13,623 --> 02:44:14,924
he was born. I just like to

5417
02:44:14,924 --> 02:44:18,428
share a little bit about my

5418
02:44:18,428 --> 02:44:20,363
story with you. I worked prior

5419
02:44:20,363 --> 02:44:22,898
in the corporate world for many

5420
02:44:22,898 --> 02:44:24,200
years doing everything --

5421
02:44:24,200 --> 02:44:25,635
complete op assistant medical.

5422
02:44:25,635 --> 02:44:27,369
I never did anything like that.

5423
02:44:27,369 --> 02:44:29,738
My son was born with profound

5424
02:44:29,738 --> 02:44:32,138
needs requiring 24 hours care.

5425
02:44:33,142 --> 02:44:34,877
I knew nothing about this, so I

5426
02:44:34,877 --> 02:44:35,978
relied on the doctors and nurses

5427
02:44:35,978 --> 02:44:38,114
and therapists and everyone else

5428
02:44:38,114 --> 02:44:40,516
to tell me what to do and how to

5429
02:44:40,516 --> 02:44:43,520
take care of my son. I has

5430
02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:45,655
profound needs, like I said,

5431
02:44:45,655 --> 02:44:47,423
requiring 24 hours care. He is

5432
02:44:47,423 --> 02:44:50,423
blind. He's non-verbal. He is

5433
02:44:51,193 --> 02:44:54,330
fed through a tube. I take care

5434
02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:56,632
of all of his living activities

5435
02:44:56,632 --> 02:44:58,434
that he does. And as time went

5436
02:44:58,434 --> 02:45:00,570
on, I started questioning

5437
02:45:00,570 --> 02:45:03,173
things. And this program has

5438
02:45:03,173 --> 02:45:06,609
allowed me to -- was able to

5439
02:45:06,609 --> 02:45:08,278
allow me to stay home with him,

5440
02:45:08,278 --> 02:45:10,947
to do research, to find out what

5441
02:45:10,947 --> 02:45:12,649
I can better do. So the first

5442
02:45:12,649 --> 02:45:15,718
thing is -- one of the things is

5443
02:45:15,718 --> 02:45:17,860
my son -- they told me when he

5444
02:45:17,860 --> 02:45:18,621
was very young and he was in the

5445
02:45:18,621 --> 02:45:20,223
hospital for all of the time for

5446
02:45:20,223 --> 02:45:22,250
the first three years of his

5447
02:45:22,250 --> 02:45:23,659
life, that's all I did, was in

5448
02:45:23,659 --> 02:45:25,862
the hospital. He has a seizure

5449
02:45:25,862 --> 02:45:28,862
disorder. And he was on

5450
02:45:28,898 --> 02:45:30,200
multiple medications for that.

5451
02:45:30,200 --> 02:45:31,100
they just don't work, so they

5452
02:45:31,100 --> 02:45:33,436
would add another one, another

5453
02:45:33,436 --> 02:45:36,538
one. So I was okay with that.

5454
02:45:36,538 --> 02:45:39,476
He was fed through ag tube.

5455
02:45:39,476 --> 02:45:42,476
Every time offer stopped nursing

5456
02:45:43,413 --> 02:45:45,749
him, he would -- he had to

5457
02:45:45,749 --> 02:45:47,830
receive nutrition, medical-grade

5458
02:45:47,830 --> 02:45:49,686
nutrition. Every time I put it,

5459
02:45:49,686 --> 02:45:52,355
in he would throw it up. So one

5460
02:45:52,355 --> 02:45:54,290
day decided to start feeding him

5461
02:45:54,290 --> 02:45:55,492
with homemade food. I just

5462
02:45:55,492 --> 02:45:57,226
decided why don't I blend

5463
02:45:57,226 --> 02:45:58,929
something and put it. Heaven's

5464
02:45:58,929 --> 02:46:01,310
forbid, he started eating, he

5465
02:46:01,310 --> 02:46:03,133
was able to keep it down. Real

5466
02:46:03,133 --> 02:46:04,768
food kept it down. Then I said

5467
02:46:04,768 --> 02:46:07,170
why do you want me to keep

5468
02:46:07,170 --> 02:46:08,672
adding more seizure meds. They

5469
02:46:08,672 --> 02:46:11,700
don't work. I researched

5470
02:46:11,700 --> 02:46:13,700
alternative medications, seizure

5471
02:46:13,243 --> 02:46:14,644
medications. And they started

5472
02:46:14,644 --> 02:46:16,146
working. So I started taking

5473
02:46:16,146 --> 02:46:19,615
them away. And most of these

5474
02:46:19,615 --> 02:46:23,119
doctors you all know. Thomas is

5475
02:46:23,119 --> 02:46:24,653
a child of choc hospital and you

5476
02:46:24,653 --> 02:46:27,124
will of a the specialty there is

5477
02:46:27,124 --> 02:46:29,159
and they do great with him, but

5478
02:46:29,159 --> 02:46:31,795
he has thrived because I have

5479
02:46:31,795 --> 02:46:33,295
been allowed to stay home and

5480
02:46:33,295 --> 02:46:34,865
take care of him. They told me

5481
02:46:34,865 --> 02:46:36,800
he would never walk. After he

5482
02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:38,401
stopped throwing up and having

5483
02:46:38,401 --> 02:46:39,970
seizures, guess what, he walked.

5484
02:46:39,970 --> 02:46:41,104
We walked into the doctors, and

5485
02:46:41,104 --> 02:46:42,639
I would think they would run

5486
02:46:42,639 --> 02:46:44,641
down the hall going, oh, my GOD,

5487
02:46:44,641 --> 02:46:45,608
what did you do. He's in a much

5488
02:46:45,608 --> 02:46:47,770
better way because of this

5489
02:46:47,770 --> 02:46:49,312
program, and I'd like you to

5490
02:46:49,312 --> 02:46:51,480
consider doing what you can to

5491
02:46:51,480 --> 02:46:52,315
keep this program to allow

5492
02:46:52,315 --> 02:46:52,616
people to take care of their

5493
02:46:52,616 --> 02:46:54,616
loved ones.

5494
02:46:55,180 --> 02:46:56,252
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

5495
02:46:56,252 --> 02:46:58,221
you.

5496
02:46:58,221 --> 02:47:00,621
>>clerk, robin stieler: andrew

5497
02:47:08,632 --> 02:47:10,632
and brian kay.

5498
02:47:12,402 --> 02:47:14,802
>>speaker: hello. I'm andrew,

5499
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:18,609
as you know. I just want to say

5500
02:47:18,609 --> 02:47:20,677
I was here at beginning, and

5501
02:47:20,677 --> 02:47:22,913
man, I give you guys props for

5502
02:47:22,913 --> 02:47:24,514
what you guys do. It can be

5503
02:47:24,514 --> 02:47:27,514
pretty intense. This is my

5504
02:47:27,784 --> 02:47:31,384
first public meeting. So I am

5505
02:47:33,230 --> 02:47:35,926
not as experienced as many of

5506
02:47:35,926 --> 02:47:39,363
you in this. So it is my first.

5507
02:47:39,363 --> 02:47:40,664
I'll do my best. I just have

5508
02:47:40,664 --> 02:47:44,264
three topics that I want to

5509
02:47:46,135 --> 02:47:49,639
start with. First off, one of

5510
02:47:49,639 --> 02:47:52,639
the gentleman before me had

5511
02:47:55,412 --> 02:47:57,812
mentioned shelters. There's a

5512
02:47:58,181 --> 02:47:59,282
few agenda ago. I just want to

5513
02:47:59,282 --> 02:48:01,318
go off of that because a lot of

5514
02:48:01,318 --> 02:48:02,519
times nonprofit organization try

5515
02:48:02,519 --> 02:48:05,254
to do their best to get their

5516
02:48:05,254 --> 02:48:07,240
grants, right, and make sure

5517
02:48:07,240 --> 02:48:08,559
that the community and everybody

5518
02:48:08,559 --> 02:48:12,159
within the community is able to

5519
02:48:18,680 --> 02:48:19,690
help set these places up.

5520
02:48:19,690 --> 02:48:21,405
What's point if you don't even

5521
02:48:21,405 --> 02:48:23,700
know what you're putting your

5522
02:48:23,700 --> 02:48:24,575
money into let alone at least go

5523
02:48:24,575 --> 02:48:26,776
and see it for yourself, right.

5524
02:48:26,776 --> 02:48:28,450
I know that if I'm going to go

5525
02:48:28,450 --> 02:48:29,146
to a donation center or

5526
02:48:29,146 --> 02:48:31,148
somewhere, I walk around and

5527
02:48:31,148 --> 02:48:34,251
view it and look at it, and then

5528
02:48:34,251 --> 02:48:35,185
I put my money down, and go,

5529
02:48:35,185 --> 02:48:36,286
hey, this program is helping

5530
02:48:36,286 --> 02:48:38,822
kids, right. Many of the

5531
02:48:38,822 --> 02:48:40,524
programs that I've been to

5532
02:48:40,524 --> 02:48:42,524
personally experiencing

5533
02:48:43,260 --> 02:48:45,262
homelessness and going to

5534
02:48:45,262 --> 02:48:48,970
shelters, they do a thing with

5535
02:48:48,970 --> 02:48:48,999
favoritism, and it's very, very

5536
02:48:48,999 --> 02:48:51,101
sad because if somebody is not

5537
02:48:51,101 --> 02:48:52,903
to your liking or they don't

5538
02:48:52,903 --> 02:48:55,938
like your attitude or they don't

5539
02:48:55,938 --> 02:48:57,374
like something about you,

5540
02:48:57,374 --> 02:48:59,774
basically you're screwed, and

5541
02:48:59,843 --> 02:49:00,844
it's back to the streets. And I

5542
02:49:00,844 --> 02:49:02,112
don't know if you guys are aware

5543
02:49:02,112 --> 02:49:03,514
of this, but a lot of these

5544
02:49:03,514 --> 02:49:05,949
shelter and a lot of these

5545
02:49:05,949 --> 02:49:08,853
places had a really long waiting

5546
02:49:08,853 --> 02:49:13,530
list just to get in, so it's

5547
02:49:13,424 --> 02:49:17,624
very sad on seeing that. And so

5548
02:49:18,929 --> 02:49:20,530
even the ones that are

5549
02:49:20,530 --> 02:49:22,566
non-shelters such as orangewood

5550
02:49:22,566 --> 02:49:24,966
donation foundation in santa

5551
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:28,372
ana, they do good work, but,

5552
02:49:28,372 --> 02:49:30,107
again, it's a lot of favoritism,

5553
02:49:30,107 --> 02:49:32,275
and it's very, very sad. And we

5554
02:49:32,275 --> 02:49:34,450
need to seriously do something

5555
02:49:34,450 --> 02:49:35,846
about this, you guys. It's very

5556
02:49:35,846 --> 02:49:38,783
serious. We're not here to put

5557
02:49:38,783 --> 02:49:41,685
money in and go in a work place

5558
02:49:41,685 --> 02:49:45,285
and take every little thing that

5559
02:49:45,622 --> 02:49:47,240
we see as personal aspect,

5560
02:49:47,240 --> 02:49:48,826
because when you're in a

5561
02:49:48,826 --> 02:49:50,494
workplace, it requires and

5562
02:49:50,494 --> 02:49:52,494
involves professionalism. Not

5563
02:49:53,197 --> 02:49:54,965
how you feel, not how much of a

5564
02:49:54,965 --> 02:49:56,967
bad day you had at home. Please

5565
02:49:56,967 --> 02:49:58,836
don't bring what you have at

5566
02:49:58,836 --> 02:50:00,504
home into your workspace,

5567
02:50:00,504 --> 02:50:01,973
especially as shelters when

5568
02:50:01,973 --> 02:50:04,800
we're trying to help people not

5569
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:04,975
break them back down and push

5570
02:50:04,975 --> 02:50:07,979
them back in the streets. All

5571
02:50:07,979 --> 02:50:09,146
right. Thank you guys.

5572
02:50:09,146 --> 02:50:09,313
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

5573
02:50:09,313 --> 02:50:11,313
you.

5574
02:50:12,116 --> 02:50:14,516
>>clerk, robin stieler: brian

5575
02:50:24,895 --> 02:50:26,895
kay.

5576
02:50:31,680 --> 02:50:32,136
>>speaker: happy day. Earlier

5577
02:50:32,136 --> 02:50:33,471
in the meeting katrina foley

5578
02:50:33,471 --> 02:50:36,140
realized that she had made a

5579
02:50:36,140 --> 02:50:38,509
mistake, and she wanted to go

5580
02:50:38,509 --> 02:50:41,509
back and correct her mistake.

5581
02:50:41,512 --> 02:50:42,446
And recast her vote. That's

5582
02:50:42,446 --> 02:50:44,846
basically the first amendment

5583
02:50:47,685 --> 02:50:48,586
right there. You redress the

5584
02:50:48,586 --> 02:50:50,288
grievance. So you would think

5585
02:50:50,288 --> 02:50:52,390
that in the criminal case she'd

5586
02:50:52,390 --> 02:50:54,725
look at it and go, hey, brian

5587
02:50:54,725 --> 02:50:56,270
cark doesn't know where I live,

5588
02:50:56,270 --> 02:50:56,927
so even if I think he really

5589
02:50:56,927 --> 02:50:59,230
threatened me, it doesn't rise

5590
02:50:59,230 --> 02:51:01,732
to the level of a crime. You'd

5591
02:51:01,732 --> 02:51:04,501
that I she'd be able to ask

5592
02:51:04,501 --> 02:51:06,901
vincent sarmiento, a defense

5593
02:51:07,400 --> 02:51:08,720
attorney, if that was the truth,

5594
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:10,741
and that vince would be able to

5595
02:51:10,741 --> 02:51:11,709
stand up for the truth. You

5596
02:51:11,709 --> 02:51:15,279
don't have to stand up for me,

5597
02:51:15,279 --> 02:51:15,913
vince. You can hate me all the

5598
02:51:15,913 --> 02:51:20,113
want but I think that you would

5599
02:51:22,420 --> 02:51:24,122
stand up for the constitution

5600
02:51:24,122 --> 02:51:26,124
and the raw and that you would

5601
02:51:26,124 --> 02:51:29,124
help katrina foley not be

5602
02:51:30,595 --> 02:51:31,496
afraid. It's amazing, narsisco

5603
02:51:31,496 --> 02:51:33,697
ber rang oh, the gentleman who

5604
02:51:33,697 --> 02:51:35,533
fathered three children who were

5605
02:51:35,533 --> 02:51:38,533
marine veterans, you went to

5606
02:51:39,837 --> 02:51:41,272
court to get him -- get that

5607
02:51:41,272 --> 02:51:42,373
whole matter resolved. There's

5608
02:51:42,373 --> 02:51:43,974
a picture of you in the paper

5609
02:51:43,974 --> 02:51:46,810
walking out the courthouse right

5610
02:51:46,810 --> 02:51:49,810
there next to him. You

5611
02:51:50,881 --> 02:51:53,184
supported him. You endorsed

5612
02:51:53,184 --> 02:51:54,586
him. You worked to help get him

5613
02:51:54,586 --> 02:51:58,890
free. And it's a shame because

5614
02:51:58,890 --> 02:51:59,990
we have families right here to

5615
02:51:59,990 --> 02:52:02,227
petition you to not be forced

5616
02:52:02,227 --> 02:52:04,729
into family court without having

5617
02:52:04,729 --> 02:52:06,729
their petitions addressed.

5618
02:52:07,432 --> 02:52:09,867
Please realize you had to --

5619
02:52:09,867 --> 02:52:11,402
their petitions redressed.

5620
02:52:11,402 --> 02:52:12,704
Please realize you had to stand

5621
02:52:12,704 --> 02:52:15,600
over julie, you had to step over

5622
02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:18,606
me, who's filed a petition to

5623
02:52:19,277 --> 02:52:20,545
help narsisco. I'm not saying

5624
02:52:20,545 --> 02:52:22,130
it's bad. As a matter of fact,

5625
02:52:22,130 --> 02:52:23,781
thank you for helping him, but

5626
02:52:23,781 --> 02:52:26,150
realize that you had to walk

5627
02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:28,353
over, you had to tread over your

5628
02:52:28,353 --> 02:52:30,353
own constituents.

5629
02:52:31,222 --> 02:52:31,956
You know, you're all complaining

5630
02:52:31,956 --> 02:52:33,191
about I.C.E.. You're doing the

5631
02:52:33,191 --> 02:52:36,600
same thing as I.C.E. You have

5632
02:52:36,600 --> 02:52:37,562
police who are undertrained,

5633
02:52:37,562 --> 02:52:39,562
overviolent, committing crimes

5634
02:52:40,732 --> 02:52:42,100
against the people. You ignore

5635
02:52:42,100 --> 02:52:44,502
the petitions from the people,

5636
02:52:44,502 --> 02:52:45,370
and then you allow the police to

5637
02:52:45,370 --> 02:52:48,370
do what they've done. Vince,

5638
02:52:49,774 --> 02:52:53,678
could you help me with my issue.

5639
02:52:53,678 --> 02:52:55,747
You have chosen not to. And

5640
02:52:55,747 --> 02:52:58,147
lastly, honorable spitzer, he

5641
02:52:58,716 --> 02:53:00,552
lost a second lawsuit. There's

5642
02:53:00,552 --> 02:53:02,219
about eight more. And the

5643
02:53:02,219 --> 02:53:03,755
really sad thing is that all of

5644
02:53:03,755 --> 02:53:05,790
you are implicated. You know,

5645
02:53:05,790 --> 02:53:07,492
probably the saddest one is,

5646
02:53:07,492 --> 02:53:09,527
again, katrina foley, who has a

5647
02:53:09,527 --> 02:53:11,396
law firm dedicated to protecting

5648
02:53:11,396 --> 02:53:13,796
employees from abusive employers

5649
02:53:14,833 --> 02:53:15,667
was found to be an abusive

5650
02:53:15,667 --> 02:53:18,670
employer. And rather than

5651
02:53:18,135 --> 02:53:20,535
stopping this abusive behavior,

5652
02:53:20,905 --> 02:53:22,874
she's gonna do it eight more

5653
02:53:22,874 --> 02:53:25,430
times. I wish better for you.

5654
02:53:25,430 --> 02:53:25,810
Happy day.

5655
02:53:25,810 --> 02:53:27,978
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

5656
02:53:27,978 --> 02:53:28,246
further requests to speak,

5657
02:53:28,246 --> 02:53:28,814
MR. Chair.

5658
02:53:28,814 --> 02:53:30,282
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

5659
02:53:30,282 --> 02:53:32,250
you. Now we'll go to board

5660
02:53:32,250 --> 02:53:34,186
comments. Would any board

5661
02:53:34,186 --> 02:53:34,920
member like to speak?

5662
02:53:34,920 --> 02:53:35,520
Supervisor nguyen.

5663
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:36,621
>>janet nguyen: thank you. I

5664
02:53:36,621 --> 02:53:40,221
have a few items to make

5665
02:53:42,600 --> 02:53:44,162
comments on. One, I wanted to,

5666
02:53:44,162 --> 02:53:47,762
again, thank you, the ceo and

5667
02:53:51,200 --> 02:53:51,903
also doug from oc care, who

5668
02:53:51,903 --> 02:53:53,238
attended our hud senior

5669
02:53:53,238 --> 02:53:55,107
officials meeting last week.

5670
02:53:55,107 --> 02:53:58,760
This came about because of my

5671
02:53:58,760 --> 02:54:00,345
trip to washington D.C. And, you

5672
02:54:00,345 --> 02:54:01,279
know, it's -- we were inquiring

5673
02:54:01,279 --> 02:54:03,279
about receiving additional

5674
02:54:04,116 --> 02:54:06,518
funding for our homeless efforts

5675
02:54:06,518 --> 02:54:08,754
and, so last week they came out,

5676
02:54:08,754 --> 02:54:10,855
they originally were actually

5677
02:54:10,855 --> 02:54:12,590
just going to stop by L.A. And

5678
02:54:12,590 --> 02:54:15,760
san diego, but because of our

5679
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:18,630
trip to D.C., they stopped by

5680
02:54:18,630 --> 02:54:20,832
orange county. I don't remember

5681
02:54:20,832 --> 02:54:21,800
the last time hud actually came

5682
02:54:21,800 --> 02:54:23,835
to orange county, at least not

5683
02:54:23,835 --> 02:54:26,304
at the time that I remembered,

5684
02:54:26,304 --> 02:54:27,539
my first two terms on this

5685
02:54:27,539 --> 02:54:30,108
board. And since I've been

5686
02:54:30,108 --> 02:54:30,943
back. So it actually was very

5687
02:54:30,943 --> 02:54:31,977
exciting that we were able to

5688
02:54:31,977 --> 02:54:35,547
get home to orange county to

5689
02:54:35,547 --> 02:54:38,584
visit us. We toured the oc

5690
02:54:38,584 --> 02:54:40,185
rescue mission, homeless shelter

5691
02:54:40,185 --> 02:54:41,587
in tustin. It is a private

5692
02:54:41,587 --> 02:54:44,923
state of the art facility with a

5693
02:54:44,923 --> 02:54:47,250
high successive rate of

5694
02:54:47,250 --> 02:54:49,160
rehabilitation. Hud was very

5695
02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:51,763
impressed what they saw and, you

5696
02:54:51,763 --> 02:54:53,832
know, what I gather and -- is

5697
02:54:53,832 --> 02:54:55,600
that they highly encourage us to

5698
02:54:55,600 --> 02:54:58,360
apply for the funding that's

5699
02:54:58,360 --> 02:55:00,238
coming up with the nofa, that's

5700
02:55:00,238 --> 02:55:02,340
coming up. You know, they're

5701
02:55:02,340 --> 02:55:04,420
refocusing on homeless policy on

5702
02:55:04,420 --> 02:55:06,420
treatment, recovery, and

5703
02:55:06,278 --> 02:55:07,779
self-sufficiency. And so it's

5704
02:55:07,779 --> 02:55:09,180
actually, you know, exciting,

5705
02:55:09,180 --> 02:55:10,749
and I really appreciate your

5706
02:55:10,749 --> 02:55:12,284
comments at the meeting,

5707
02:55:12,284 --> 02:55:14,720
MR. CHAIRMAN, and sharing your

5708
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:16,321
prevention solutions. I think

5709
02:55:16,321 --> 02:55:17,623
they -- their eyes were really

5710
02:55:17,623 --> 02:55:18,557
wide open when they heard about

5711
02:55:18,557 --> 02:55:21,557
it and couldn't believe that,

5712
02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:23,696
you know, such a program exists.

5713
02:55:23,696 --> 02:55:26,970
And, you know, the ceo

5714
02:55:26,970 --> 02:55:28,497
mentioned about the encampment

5715
02:55:29,134 --> 02:55:32,734
of, you know, from -- in 2018,

5716
02:55:33,271 --> 02:55:34,606
the clearing of the encampment,

5717
02:55:34,606 --> 02:55:36,375
whether it's the santa ana river

5718
02:55:36,375 --> 02:55:39,411
trail or the plaza of the flags

5719
02:55:39,411 --> 02:55:40,812
and how the county has helped

5720
02:55:40,812 --> 02:55:42,414
assist hundreds of individuals.

5721
02:55:42,414 --> 02:55:43,248
And so we'll continue to

5722
02:55:43,248 --> 02:55:44,683
communicate with hud and, you

5723
02:55:44,683 --> 02:55:46,852
know, I want to continue to

5724
02:55:46,852 --> 02:55:48,587
offer that orange county can be

5725
02:55:48,587 --> 02:55:50,589
a statewide leader in solving

5726
02:55:50,589 --> 02:55:52,524
the homeless crisis unlike other

5727
02:55:52,524 --> 02:55:54,827
counties. And they did mention

5728
02:55:54,827 --> 02:55:56,195
that the nofa coming up will be

5729
02:55:56,195 --> 02:55:57,563
very competitive. It's not

5730
02:55:57,563 --> 02:55:58,497
gonna be, you know, just because

5731
02:55:58,497 --> 02:56:00,633
you received it in the past you

5732
02:56:00,633 --> 02:56:02,330
will get it, and that's why

5733
02:56:02,330 --> 02:56:03,168
there's a lot of angst all

5734
02:56:03,168 --> 02:56:05,404
across the country, because most

5735
02:56:05,404 --> 02:56:08,404
folks depend on these fundings.

5736
02:56:11,243 --> 02:56:11,844
But they want measures --

5737
02:56:11,844 --> 02:56:14,244
measurements to be included.

5738
02:56:14,480 --> 02:56:15,470
And so I'm excited. And again,

5739
02:56:15,470 --> 02:56:16,415
thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, and

5740
02:56:16,415 --> 02:56:20,486
thank you to the ceo and also

5741
02:56:20,486 --> 02:56:22,354
doug. It was friday evening.

5742
02:56:22,354 --> 02:56:24,623
Didn't finish to a little close

5743
02:56:24,623 --> 02:56:26,158
to 9:00 or past 9:00 P.M.. So I

5744
02:56:26,158 --> 02:56:29,158
really appreciate you being part

5745
02:56:29,161 --> 02:56:32,697
of it. The other -- couple of

5746
02:56:32,697 --> 02:56:35,801
other things is I want to thank

5747
02:56:35,801 --> 02:56:37,403
doug and his staff and the

5748
02:56:37,403 --> 02:56:40,403
thousand volunteers on the point

5749
02:56:40,773 --> 02:56:42,774
in time count. This past --

5750
02:56:42,774 --> 02:56:44,476
couple of weeks ago now. This

5751
02:56:44,476 --> 02:56:46,946
is very important to us. So the

5752
02:56:46,946 --> 02:56:48,647
data is essential to access --

5753
02:56:48,647 --> 02:56:50,816
assess our coach homelessness

5754
02:56:50,816 --> 02:56:53,719
and whether we as a county has

5755
02:56:53,719 --> 02:56:57,556
done well or not or what each

5756
02:56:57,556 --> 02:57:01,560
city has done, if it has worked

5757
02:57:01,560 --> 02:57:05,264
or not. As we know, in 2024, we

5758
02:57:05,264 --> 02:57:07,264
had 7,322 homeless individuals,

5759
02:57:07,466 --> 02:57:11,660
which, you know, was an increase

5760
02:57:12,370 --> 02:57:15,637
from 2022 by 37%, and we did not

5761
02:57:15,674 --> 02:57:16,876
do any count in '23 or '25. And

5762
02:57:16,876 --> 02:57:18,944
so this count something going to

5763
02:57:18,944 --> 02:57:20,446
be important for us to see what

5764
02:57:20,446 --> 02:57:22,548
has been done since '24.

5765
02:57:22,548 --> 02:57:23,683
Whether our programs or the

5766
02:57:23,683 --> 02:57:25,251
city's programs have worked or

5767
02:57:25,251 --> 02:57:27,286
not worked, and whether we

5768
02:57:27,286 --> 02:57:28,788
continue those programs or stop

5769
02:57:28,788 --> 02:57:31,256
those programs, and we look at

5770
02:57:31,256 --> 02:57:32,725
whether, you know, it's -- what

5771
02:57:32,725 --> 02:57:34,493
to do going forward. And so I

5772
02:57:34,493 --> 02:57:35,861
really appreciate the city of

5773
02:57:35,861 --> 02:57:38,664
fountain valley because I joined

5774
02:57:38,664 --> 02:57:40,298
them, the team of the officers,

5775
02:57:40,298 --> 02:57:42,568
at my square park, and we drove

5776
02:57:42,568 --> 02:57:43,702
around in fountain valley to

5777
02:57:43,702 --> 02:57:45,138
look and talk to a lot of

5778
02:57:45,138 --> 02:57:46,538
individuals. And it's very

5779
02:57:46,538 --> 02:57:48,938
eye-opening to see what's

5780
02:57:49,442 --> 02:57:51,277
happening there, especially in

5781
02:57:51,277 --> 02:57:54,277
the evening. And so, again,

5782
02:57:55,810 --> 02:57:58,817
thank you to doug, the oc cares

5783
02:57:58,817 --> 02:58:01,190
staff and also the thousand of

5784
02:58:01,190 --> 02:58:04,619
volunteers that came out to help

5785
02:58:05,570 --> 02:58:07,160
at that -- to help. And last, I

5786
02:58:07,160 --> 02:58:09,762
just also want to thank the

5787
02:58:09,762 --> 02:58:12,732
board for celebrating lunar new

5788
02:58:12,732 --> 02:58:14,800
year with us. We had a great

5789
02:58:14,800 --> 02:58:17,770
time at the board meeting, and

5790
02:58:17,770 --> 02:58:19,472
lots of comments and

5791
02:58:19,472 --> 02:58:20,305
conversations of folks.

5792
02:58:20,305 --> 02:58:22,108
Appreciate the board for

5793
02:58:22,108 --> 02:58:24,508
continuing to recognize lunar

5794
02:58:26,212 --> 02:58:28,800
new year, particularly in our

5795
02:58:28,800 --> 02:58:29,549
district, would be for tet. And

5796
02:58:29,549 --> 02:58:32,485
I was also able to participate

5797
02:58:32,485 --> 02:58:33,553
in a lot of lunar new year

5798
02:58:33,553 --> 02:58:35,721
events in the district.

5799
02:58:35,721 --> 02:58:39,225
And I can say that, you know, I

5800
02:58:39,225 --> 02:58:41,628
want to give a shout-out to my

5801
02:58:41,628 --> 02:58:43,896
staff that a whole week and a

5802
02:58:43,896 --> 02:58:47,496
half was exhausting for us. We,

5803
02:58:47,867 --> 02:58:49,402
you know, when new year's eve

5804
02:58:49,402 --> 02:58:51,604
events, temple run, which, you

5805
02:58:51,604 --> 02:58:52,672
know, a lot of us got back at

5806
02:58:52,672 --> 02:58:54,640
probably 1:30 in the morning.

5807
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:56,242
And so really appreciate my

5808
02:58:56,242 --> 02:58:58,678
staff for hanging in there and,

5809
02:58:58,678 --> 02:59:00,680
even though it was raining on

5810
02:59:00,680 --> 02:59:03,181
us, as well, for being out

5811
02:59:03,181 --> 02:59:06,181
there, for being troopers and

5812
02:59:06,920 --> 02:59:11,120
then into -- being a part the

5813
02:59:11,825 --> 02:59:13,393
tet parade this past weekend in

5814
02:59:13,393 --> 02:59:14,827
westminster and appreciate all

5815
02:59:14,827 --> 02:59:16,229
of their support and all of the

5816
02:59:16,229 --> 02:59:17,620
volunteers that came out to help

5817
02:59:17,620 --> 02:59:19,980
us in the parade as well, and

5818
02:59:19,980 --> 02:59:19,898
thank you to this board for the

5819
02:59:19,898 --> 02:59:22,135
recognition of lunar new year

5820
02:59:22,135 --> 02:59:24,170
and tet in orange county. Thank

5821
02:59:24,170 --> 02:59:25,705
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.

5822
02:59:25,705 --> 02:59:28,105
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

5823
02:59:28,508 --> 02:59:29,142
you, supervisor. Vice-chair.

5824
02:59:29,142 --> 02:59:32,142
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

5825
02:59:32,512 --> 02:59:34,130
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. And, yes,

5826
02:59:34,130 --> 02:59:35,415
this -- I feel like this year

5827
02:59:35,415 --> 02:59:37,784
has been the most celebrated

5828
02:59:37,784 --> 02:59:39,853
lunar new year of anytime I've

5829
02:59:39,853 --> 02:59:41,688
ever seen in our whole county.

5830
02:59:41,688 --> 02:59:43,690
So it's wonderful, so many

5831
02:59:43,690 --> 02:59:44,958
colorful, joyful celebration,

5832
02:59:44,958 --> 02:59:48,428
and thanks for bringing all of

5833
02:59:48,428 --> 02:59:49,395
the decorations to the sixth

5834
02:59:49,395 --> 02:59:51,631
floor and the nice treats that

5835
02:59:51,631 --> 02:59:53,867
you shared with us at our lunch

5836
02:59:53,867 --> 02:59:55,680
meeting last time. So lots of

5837
02:59:55,680 --> 02:59:58,680
things to celebrate here in

5838
02:59:58,505 --> 03:00:00,507
orange county. One thing -- one

5839
03:00:00,507 --> 03:00:03,507
issue that has been percolating

5840
03:00:07,480 --> 03:00:09,282
in our district is the san juan

5841
03:00:09,282 --> 03:00:11,284
creek channels. I want to thank

5842
03:00:11,284 --> 03:00:13,353
orange county public works and

5843
03:00:13,353 --> 03:00:15,288
our agricultural commissioner

5844
03:00:15,288 --> 03:00:17,457
for the time expended and the

5845
03:00:17,457 --> 03:00:19,759
deep dive in briefing with my

5846
03:00:19,759 --> 03:00:22,996
time on all of the county's san

5847
03:00:22,996 --> 03:00:24,464
juan and trabuco creeks and

5848
03:00:24,464 --> 03:00:25,933
maintenance plans, the different

5849
03:00:25,933 --> 03:00:27,467
ways we manage our channels, the

5850
03:00:27,467 --> 03:00:29,536
history of managing our channels

5851
03:00:29,536 --> 03:00:31,238
and the use of herbicides

5852
03:00:31,238 --> 03:00:33,638
specifically in our flood

5853
03:00:33,673 --> 03:00:34,641
channels. So the community has

5854
03:00:34,641 --> 03:00:37,641
been communicating with us quite

5855
03:00:38,278 --> 03:00:40,614
a bit about the san juan and

5856
03:00:40,614 --> 03:00:42,215
trabuco creeks. And as our team

5857
03:00:42,215 --> 03:00:43,490
knows well, I'm very much

5858
03:00:43,490 --> 03:00:45,952
opposed to herbicides in our

5859
03:00:45,952 --> 03:00:48,952
public spaces and our waterways.

5860
03:00:49,550 --> 03:00:49,790
I share -- I've shared many of

5861
03:00:49,790 --> 03:00:50,724
these concerns and all of the

5862
03:00:50,724 --> 03:00:52,893
questions that we are receiving

5863
03:00:52,893 --> 03:00:55,195
with our orange county public

5864
03:00:55,195 --> 03:00:56,729
works team and I'll continue

5865
03:00:56,729 --> 03:00:59,132
engaging with our county staff

5866
03:00:59,132 --> 03:01:01,532
on different alternatives. We

5867
03:01:06,506 --> 03:01:08,175
want to assure the public that

5868
03:01:08,175 --> 03:01:10,543
round-up/gliff say the, has not

5869
03:01:10,543 --> 03:01:14,214
been applied to the tra bush oh

5870
03:01:14,214 --> 03:01:15,982
or san juan creek flued channels

5871
03:01:15,982 --> 03:01:18,185
eyewitness news since JANUARY of

5872
03:01:18,185 --> 03:01:19,686
2025, the reason we know that is

5873
03:01:19,686 --> 03:01:21,421
because we received complaints

5874
03:01:21,421 --> 03:01:22,923
in JANUARY of 2025. Formal

5875
03:01:22,923 --> 03:01:25,225
complaints were made. An

5876
03:01:25,225 --> 03:01:27,225
investigation ensued. And

5877
03:01:27,560 --> 03:01:29,463
because we take these complaints

5878
03:01:29,463 --> 03:01:31,640
seriously, the investigation

5879
03:01:31,640 --> 03:01:33,499
found that the contractor was

5880
03:01:33,499 --> 03:01:37,990
not in compliance, and then our

5881
03:01:38,238 --> 03:01:40,340
county staff acted decisively.

5882
03:01:40,340 --> 03:01:41,941
Gliff say the has not been used

5883
03:01:41,941 --> 03:01:45,541
since then and not be applied

5884
03:01:46,680 --> 03:01:48,680
those channels again.

5885
03:01:48,715 --> 03:01:50,717
Glyfhosate. The county is only

5886
03:01:50,717 --> 03:01:53,453
approved to apply state water

5887
03:01:53,453 --> 03:01:55,556
board and epa approved

5888
03:01:55,556 --> 03:01:56,690
herbicides to vegetation and

5889
03:01:56,690 --> 03:01:58,992
flood control channels. And the

5890
03:01:58,992 --> 03:02:00,360
reason for that is so that

5891
03:02:00,360 --> 03:02:01,695
people don't experience flooding

5892
03:02:01,695 --> 03:02:02,296
in their homes. This channel

5893
03:02:02,296 --> 03:02:04,231
was developed and house built

5894
03:02:04,231 --> 03:02:07,134
and commercial retail built all

5895
03:02:07,134 --> 03:02:10,370
along it, and so it's a bagging

5896
03:02:10,370 --> 03:02:12,673
act to protect the homes from

5897
03:02:12,673 --> 03:02:15,673
flooding and keep the vegetation

5898
03:02:15,809 --> 03:02:18,145
out in a way that is respectful

5899
03:02:18,145 --> 03:02:20,447
of, you know, the humans and the

5900
03:02:20,447 --> 03:02:23,550
natural habitat that live in the

5901
03:02:23,550 --> 03:02:26,386
channel like fish. So we have

5902
03:02:26,386 --> 03:02:28,621
been following the protocols for

5903
03:02:28,621 --> 03:02:30,823
diluting the application to

5904
03:02:30,823 --> 03:02:31,725
ensure it remains as safe as

5905
03:02:31,725 --> 03:02:34,725
possible for humans, and we'll

5906
03:02:34,861 --> 03:02:37,765
continue to try to balance the

5907
03:02:37,765 --> 03:02:39,765
environmental needs, including

5908
03:02:40,400 --> 03:02:42,400
researching cost-effective

5909
03:02:42,603 --> 03:02:44,204
alternatives. I had a

5910
03:02:44,204 --> 03:02:44,905
discussion with county staff

5911
03:02:44,905 --> 03:02:45,673
yesterday about some

5912
03:02:45,673 --> 03:02:48,730
alternatives that I'm hoping

5913
03:02:49,643 --> 03:02:51,578
that we can research and pursue.

5914
03:02:51,578 --> 03:02:52,479
But also with the thought in

5915
03:02:52,479 --> 03:02:54,381
neighborhood we have to protect

5916
03:02:54,381 --> 03:02:56,917
the property and the people from

5917
03:02:56,917 --> 03:02:58,850
the threat of flooding. So if

5918
03:02:58,850 --> 03:03:00,860
you have questions for our

5919
03:03:00,860 --> 03:03:01,155
office or public works or the

5920
03:03:01,155 --> 03:03:03,757
healthcare agency, you can come

5921
03:03:03,757 --> 03:03:06,193
to our town hall. The town hall

5922
03:03:06,193 --> 03:03:09,793
is on monday MARCH 2nd at 6:00

5923
03:03:10,731 --> 03:03:13,330
P.M.. Please rsvp, and you can

5924
03:03:13,330 --> 03:03:14,134
contact our office to do so.

5925
03:03:14,134 --> 03:03:17,734
And you can contact public works

5926
03:03:19,173 --> 03:03:20,807
for any additional inquiries at

5927
03:03:20,807 --> 03:03:23,210
714-667-8800. And in the

5928
03:03:23,210 --> 03:03:25,479
interest of time, I want to just

5929
03:03:25,479 --> 03:03:28,115
focus quickly on travelers who

5930
03:03:28,115 --> 03:03:30,117
might be stuck in puerto

5931
03:03:30,117 --> 03:03:31,852
vallarta. In the fifth district

5932
03:03:31,852 --> 03:03:34,755
we have a lot of travelers that

5933
03:03:34,755 --> 03:03:36,223
go to puerto vallarta. The

5934
03:03:36,223 --> 03:03:39,223
country is pretty much on

5935
03:03:42,363 --> 03:03:43,998
lock-down in some areas,

5936
03:03:43,998 --> 03:03:45,465
tijuana, guadalajara, puerto

5937
03:03:45,465 --> 03:03:46,466
vallarta and the U.S. State

5938
03:03:46,466 --> 03:03:47,768
department is advising americans

5939
03:03:47,768 --> 03:03:49,302
as well as others that are

5940
03:03:49,302 --> 03:03:50,404
traveling to seek shelter,

5941
03:03:50,404 --> 03:03:52,373
minimize unnecessary movements,

5942
03:03:52,373 --> 03:03:54,208
remain in hotels or residences,

5943
03:03:54,208 --> 03:03:55,542
be aware of your surroundings.

5944
03:03:55,542 --> 03:03:57,942
Anyone needing assistance can

5945
03:04:03,517 --> 03:04:07,117
call from U.S. Or canada,

5946
03:04:09,123 --> 03:04:13,323
1-888-407-4747. Or if you're in

5947
03:04:14,428 --> 03:04:15,329
mexico and you need call

5948
03:04:15,329 --> 03:04:16,930
1-202-501-4444. Southwest

5949
03:04:16,930 --> 03:04:19,330
airlines, which travels direct

5950
03:04:19,867 --> 03:04:23,400
from jwa to mexico are advising

5951
03:04:23,400 --> 03:04:23,971
to check with

5952
03:04:23,971 --> 03:04:26,207
southwest.Com/traveladvisor for

5953
03:04:26,207 --> 03:04:28,509
information. And then the state

5954
03:04:28,509 --> 03:04:30,110
department has this american

5955
03:04:30,110 --> 03:04:32,579
citizens services task force for

5956
03:04:32,579 --> 03:04:35,416
U.S. Citizens in mexico, and you

5957
03:04:35,416 --> 03:04:39,616
can call a number to help get

5958
03:04:41,556 --> 03:04:43,956
returned travel 202-501-4444.

5959
03:04:45,459 --> 03:04:47,361
Or 1-888407-4747.

5960
03:04:47,361 --> 03:04:50,361
I already gave those numbers.

5961
03:04:51,970 --> 03:04:52,200
So with that, thank you to my

5962
03:04:52,200 --> 03:04:54,469
colleagues for a very productive

5963
03:04:54,469 --> 03:04:55,350
meeting today. And it's only

5964
03:04:55,350 --> 03:04:56,370
noon.

5965
03:04:56,370 --> 03:04:57,380
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

5966
03:04:57,380 --> 03:04:57,638
vice-chair. Supervisor

5967
03:04:57,638 --> 03:04:58,606
sarmiento.

5968
03:04:58,606 --> 03:05:01,600
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

5969
03:05:02,176 --> 03:05:04,378
MR. Chair. I have just a few

5970
03:05:04,378 --> 03:05:05,913
items, and if the board will

5971
03:05:05,913 --> 03:05:08,816
indulge me on these, I'll try go

5972
03:05:08,816 --> 03:05:11,352
rapid me. I -- rapidly. I want

5973
03:05:11,352 --> 03:05:12,253
to thank our partners who helped

5974
03:05:12,253 --> 03:05:13,860
us with the health and resource

5975
03:05:13,860 --> 03:05:14,689
fair this saturday the 21st.

5976
03:05:14,689 --> 03:05:17,391
We hosted at anaheim high

5977
03:05:17,391 --> 03:05:18,192
school. We want to thank their

5978
03:05:18,192 --> 03:05:21,192
board of trustees and the

5979
03:05:21,829 --> 03:05:23,431
principal there. Principal

5980
03:05:23,431 --> 03:05:25,431
rubin.

5981
03:05:26,768 --> 03:05:28,770
He and his team were just very

5982
03:05:28,770 --> 03:05:29,870
gracious and opening up the

5983
03:05:29,870 --> 03:05:32,270
campus. It's a beautiful

5984
03:05:33,408 --> 03:05:36,408
campus. It's a historic campus,

5985
03:05:37,110 --> 03:05:40,548
and our partners, who kind of

5986
03:05:40,548 --> 03:05:42,917
anchored this were social

5987
03:05:42,917 --> 03:05:45,253
service agency, ahn tran was

5988
03:05:45,253 --> 03:05:47,621
there and also caloptima. So we

5989
03:05:47,621 --> 03:05:51,125
want to thank our partners who

5990
03:05:51,125 --> 03:05:52,860
were there, notably lestinac,

5991
03:05:52,860 --> 03:05:55,860
cap oc, second harvest food

5992
03:05:58,199 --> 03:05:59,667
bank, choc, central city,

5993
03:05:59,667 --> 03:06:02,667
united, across borders and many,

5994
03:06:02,804 --> 03:06:05,640
many others. They were doing

5995
03:06:05,640 --> 03:06:07,275
medical screenings, reading

5996
03:06:07,275 --> 03:06:09,544
glasses on the spot and just a

5997
03:06:09,544 --> 03:06:10,611
lot of good stuff, groceries,

5998
03:06:10,611 --> 03:06:13,314
diapers, people who were just

5999
03:06:13,314 --> 03:06:14,282
trying to help their neighbors.

6000
03:06:14,282 --> 03:06:15,617
Unfortunately, attendance wasn't

6001
03:06:15,617 --> 03:06:16,518
as large as we would have

6002
03:06:16,518 --> 03:06:18,987
expected just because we know

6003
03:06:18,987 --> 03:06:21,656
there was a lot of fear, and it

6004
03:06:21,656 --> 03:06:22,690
was palpable in people who were

6005
03:06:22,690 --> 03:06:24,858
there. We saw it in their

6006
03:06:24,858 --> 03:06:27,394
faces, and they explained to us

6007
03:06:27,394 --> 03:06:28,596
that their neighbors would have

6008
03:06:28,596 --> 03:06:29,698
attended had conditions been

6009
03:06:29,698 --> 03:06:32,980
different. But they're still

6010
03:06:32,433 --> 03:06:34,969
fearful of immigration raids and

6011
03:06:34,969 --> 03:06:36,337
enforcement that has communities

6012
03:06:36,337 --> 03:06:39,937
really kind of closed off. So

6013
03:06:40,108 --> 03:06:41,176
that was one. And the other one

6014
03:06:41,176 --> 03:06:43,778
is our warm program. We just

6015
03:06:43,778 --> 03:06:44,746
wanted to update, we know it's

6016
03:06:44,746 --> 03:06:46,781
beautiful weather right now.

6017
03:06:46,781 --> 03:06:48,616
It's 80 degrees outside right

6018
03:06:48,616 --> 03:06:49,183
now. Last week we had a lot of

6019
03:06:49,183 --> 03:06:50,518
rain and previously, and I'm

6020
03:06:50,518 --> 03:06:53,188
sure we'll have more. The warm

6021
03:06:53,188 --> 03:06:56,224
program in its second year is

6022
03:06:56,224 --> 03:06:59,460
our effort to stand up what was

6023
03:06:59,460 --> 03:07:00,861
the cold weather shelter, and on

6024
03:07:00,861 --> 03:07:03,261
JANUARY 1st, the program

6025
03:07:05,600 --> 03:07:06,268
started providing motel stays to

6026
03:07:06,268 --> 03:07:08,268
elementary-age students and

6027
03:07:08,803 --> 03:07:10,138
their families during periods of

6028
03:07:10,138 --> 03:07:11,239
inclement weather. We partner

6029
03:07:11,239 --> 03:07:13,241
with all five school districts

6030
03:07:13,241 --> 03:07:14,876
in our area, and for families in

6031
03:07:14,876 --> 03:07:17,279
need. So if you know of

6032
03:07:17,279 --> 03:07:19,380
anybody, please have them

6033
03:07:19,380 --> 03:07:20,715
contact their school districts,

6034
03:07:20,715 --> 03:07:21,716
teachers, principals so they can

6035
03:07:21,716 --> 03:07:24,252
connect with their program. It

6036
03:07:24,252 --> 03:07:25,554
was able to support some

6037
03:07:25,554 --> 03:07:26,521
families through some very cold

6038
03:07:26,521 --> 03:07:28,690
nights and continue to activate

6039
03:07:28,690 --> 03:07:30,558
on nights when temperatures drop

6040
03:07:30,558 --> 03:07:32,958
below 45 degrees and during

6041
03:07:32,994 --> 03:07:35,564
rainy weather. Lastly, I wanted

6042
03:07:35,564 --> 03:07:37,833
to touch on the report that was

6043
03:07:37,833 --> 03:07:40,833
just released by caloptima, and

6044
03:07:44,720 --> 03:07:46,608
that is the audit on findings.

6045
03:07:46,608 --> 03:07:48,509
It disclosed in the expenditures

6046
03:07:48,509 --> 03:07:50,812
major in the period when former

6047
03:07:50,812 --> 03:07:51,813
supervisor andrew do served on

6048
03:07:51,813 --> 03:07:52,614
the caloptima board. You know,

6049
03:07:52,614 --> 03:07:56,214
there was an article written on

6050
03:07:57,850 --> 03:07:59,187
it. It's a little less than

6051
03:07:59,187 --> 03:08:00,821
accurate, but to the extent that

6052
03:08:00,821 --> 03:08:02,423
it captured what the board was

6053
03:08:02,423 --> 03:08:04,590
trying to do at came optima,

6054
03:08:04,590 --> 03:08:05,594
which was to look back and see

6055
03:08:05,594 --> 03:08:07,162
if there was any undue influence

6056
03:08:07,162 --> 03:08:09,130
by the former supervisor because

6057
03:08:09,130 --> 03:08:10,766
he served as chair and served on

6058
03:08:10,766 --> 03:08:13,968
that board as director for many

6059
03:08:13,968 --> 03:08:16,380
years. I know that they try to

6060
03:08:16,380 --> 03:08:16,938
budgets two reports. One that

6061
03:08:16,938 --> 03:08:19,240
was released late last year.

6062
03:08:19,240 --> 03:08:22,177
That was a completely separate

6063
03:08:22,177 --> 03:08:24,120
investigation. That was into

6064
03:08:24,120 --> 03:08:25,880
the proposed acquisition of a

6065
03:08:25,880 --> 03:08:27,615
tustin property, which

6066
03:08:27,615 --> 03:08:30,150
ultimately was not consummated.

6067
03:08:30,118 --> 03:08:31,854
That was not an investigation

6068
03:08:31,854 --> 03:08:34,156
into MR. Do. That was based

6069
03:08:34,156 --> 03:08:35,757
upon a whistle blower claim that

6070
03:08:35,757 --> 03:08:37,526
was made by an employee. He was

6071
03:08:37,526 --> 03:08:39,695
part of that. He was all over

6072
03:08:39,695 --> 03:08:41,396
that narrative. But it wasn't

6073
03:08:41,396 --> 03:08:42,230
focused in on him. This audit

6074
03:08:42,230 --> 03:08:45,230
in particular that was released

6075
03:08:46,135 --> 03:08:48,437
and done by ankura was

6076
03:08:48,437 --> 03:08:49,238
specifically focused in on his

6077
03:08:49,238 --> 03:08:50,772
possible influence on any

6078
03:08:50,772 --> 03:08:53,772
funding that MAY have gone

6079
03:08:53,809 --> 03:08:55,377
through the agency. So the

6080
03:08:55,377 --> 03:08:57,579
board initiated this. It was

6081
03:08:57,579 --> 03:09:00,480
not obligated to do this. But

6082
03:09:00,480 --> 03:09:02,984
it wanted to make sure that in

6083
03:09:02,984 --> 03:09:04,353
the effort and in the spirit of

6084
03:09:04,353 --> 03:09:04,987
transparency -- they wanted to

6085
03:09:04,987 --> 03:09:06,221
make sure that they looked back

6086
03:09:06,221 --> 03:09:08,357
and saw what his dealings were

6087
03:09:08,357 --> 03:09:09,825
there. And although it was

6088
03:09:09,825 --> 03:09:11,393
inclusive, that doesn't mean

6089
03:09:11,393 --> 03:09:12,360
that there weren't findings or

6090
03:09:12,360 --> 03:09:14,760
recommendations that we could

6091
03:09:15,764 --> 03:09:17,566
take and use going forward. And

6092
03:09:17,566 --> 03:09:19,901
that's where I use praise for

6093
03:09:19,901 --> 03:09:20,569
the report. It be wasn't really

6094
03:09:20,569 --> 03:09:22,805
for the findings. I know that

6095
03:09:22,805 --> 03:09:26,405
there was some difficulty by the

6096
03:09:27,643 --> 03:09:29,177
auditors to access information.

6097
03:09:29,177 --> 03:09:29,979
That, I'm certainly not

6098
03:09:29,979 --> 03:09:31,790
praising. I think there's some

6099
03:09:31,790 --> 03:09:32,881
work and improvements that could

6100
03:09:32,881 --> 03:09:35,117
be done, but to the extent that

6101
03:09:35,117 --> 03:09:39,880
the board took it upon itself to

6102
03:09:39,880 --> 03:09:40,556
initiate and complete these --

6103
03:09:40,556 --> 03:09:42,124
both an investigation and an

6104
03:09:42,124 --> 03:09:43,240
audit -- I think are good steps

6105
03:09:43,240 --> 03:09:45,961
for public agencies that are

6106
03:09:45,961 --> 03:09:47,496
trying to make sure that there

6107
03:09:47,496 --> 03:09:48,997
is good governance,

6108
03:09:48,997 --> 03:09:50,399
transparency, oversight and

6109
03:09:50,399 --> 03:09:50,799
there is work to be done

6110
03:09:50,799 --> 03:09:52,201
obviously from the

6111
03:09:52,201 --> 03:09:53,680
recommendations that were cited.

6112
03:09:53,680 --> 03:09:54,536
So that's something that I'm

6113
03:09:54,536 --> 03:09:55,971
sure the board will undertake.

6114
03:09:55,971 --> 03:09:58,173
But there have been already

6115
03:09:58,173 --> 03:10:00,409
action taken by the board,

6116
03:10:00,409 --> 03:10:02,409
strengthening the grant's

6117
03:10:02,811 --> 03:10:04,346
management policy,

6118
03:10:04,346 --> 03:10:05,140
standardsizing processes and

6119
03:10:05,140 --> 03:10:06,749
improving oversight on every

6120
03:10:06,749 --> 03:10:08,250
grant and updating the conflict

6121
03:10:08,250 --> 03:10:09,651
of interest policy to clarify

6122
03:10:09,651 --> 03:10:09,951
when conflicts must be

6123
03:10:09,951 --> 03:10:11,920
disclosed.

6124
03:10:11,920 --> 03:10:13,722
That was done here at county

6125
03:10:13,722 --> 03:10:15,958
because we know that was abused

6126
03:10:15,958 --> 03:10:17,960
by a former supervisor do. So

6127
03:10:17,960 --> 03:10:20,329
to the extent that there is

6128
03:10:20,329 --> 03:10:22,765
continuing work to be done,

6129
03:10:22,765 --> 03:10:24,133
obviously there was -- you know,

6130
03:10:24,133 --> 03:10:24,733
there's some compliance and

6131
03:10:24,733 --> 03:10:27,733
improvements that need to be

6132
03:10:28,204 --> 03:10:30,338
made. We know there is work to

6133
03:10:30,338 --> 03:10:31,940
be done. But to the extent that

6134
03:10:31,940 --> 03:10:33,442
this health plan doesn't just

6135
03:10:33,442 --> 03:10:35,778
necessarily do medical care. We

6136
03:10:35,778 --> 03:10:37,446
know that at caloptima, what we

6137
03:10:37,446 --> 03:10:39,810
see is good healthcare means

6138
03:10:39,810 --> 03:10:42,681
house, to make sure people have

6139
03:10:43,419 --> 03:10:47,222
a roof over their head is an

6140
03:10:47,222 --> 03:10:48,257
india of how people can be

6141
03:10:48,257 --> 03:10:51,257
either healthy or ill, access,

6142
03:10:51,860 --> 03:10:52,928
which is why we stood up for

6143
03:10:52,928 --> 03:10:55,328
programs doing street medicine,

6144
03:10:55,765 --> 03:10:57,233
which is basically doctors'

6145
03:10:57,233 --> 03:10:59,335
offices on wheels, which helps

6146
03:10:59,335 --> 03:11:00,836
people on the street so they can

6147
03:11:00,836 --> 03:11:02,471
receive medical care and

6148
03:11:02,471 --> 03:11:05,274
eventually get housing. Also we

6149
03:11:05,274 --> 03:11:08,874
know that many of our members

6150
03:11:11,747 --> 03:11:13,616
suffer from swo substance abuse

6151
03:11:13,616 --> 03:11:14,817
and we had narcan that was

6152
03:11:14,817 --> 03:11:16,817
distributed throughout the

6153
03:11:17,286 --> 03:11:19,421
county to make sure people had

6154
03:11:19,421 --> 03:11:20,923
that who were addicted or use

6155
03:11:20,923 --> 03:11:22,291
fentanyl. We know many of our

6156
03:11:22,291 --> 03:11:23,392
members suffer from food

6157
03:11:23,392 --> 03:11:25,792
insecurity, which is why 1.2

6158
03:11:26,162 --> 03:11:27,964
million was dedicated to second

6159
03:11:27,964 --> 03:11:28,764
harvest and cap oc to make sure

6160
03:11:28,764 --> 03:11:31,500
that we address those issues.

6161
03:11:31,500 --> 03:11:33,236
So the reason why I think that's

6162
03:11:33,236 --> 03:11:36,104
relevant is because this health

6163
03:11:36,104 --> 03:11:38,440
plan now, again, dispenses more

6164
03:11:38,440 --> 03:11:40,843
than just medical care. It does

6165
03:11:40,843 --> 03:11:42,544
grants. It works, community

6166
03:11:42,544 --> 03:11:43,579
partners and providers, and a

6167
03:11:43,579 --> 03:11:45,140
lot of times, you know, it is

6168
03:11:45,140 --> 03:11:48,450
not as familiar as maybe some of

6169
03:11:48,450 --> 03:11:49,418
the agencies that, you know, do

6170
03:11:49,418 --> 03:11:51,418
oversight compliance and

6171
03:11:53,220 --> 03:11:54,757
tracking of funds, you know, as

6172
03:11:54,757 --> 03:11:58,357
often as this health plan does.

6173
03:11:59,194 --> 03:12:01,197
We will certainly get into that,

6174
03:12:01,197 --> 03:12:03,365
you know, routine of making sure

6175
03:12:03,365 --> 03:12:06,135
that they track these things

6176
03:12:06,135 --> 03:12:07,836
better, and looking back, having

6177
03:12:07,836 --> 03:12:09,338
audits done, investigations

6178
03:12:09,338 --> 03:12:11,700
done, there are opportunities

6179
03:12:11,700 --> 03:12:13,420
for us to improve both here at

6180
03:12:13,420 --> 03:12:14,811
the county and at caloptima and

6181
03:12:14,811 --> 03:12:17,811
make sure that all public

6182
03:12:17,880 --> 03:12:19,115
dollars are accounted for,

6183
03:12:19,115 --> 03:12:19,716
there's responsibility and

6184
03:12:19,716 --> 03:12:20,983
oversight on those. So I just

6185
03:12:20,983 --> 03:12:23,180
wanted to make some clarity on,

6186
03:12:23,180 --> 03:12:24,887
that that I am very proud of our

6187
03:12:24,887 --> 03:12:26,122
board who undertook these things

6188
03:12:26,122 --> 03:12:27,690
voluntarily. Much work to be

6189
03:12:27,690 --> 03:12:30,930
done, and I believe a lot of

6190
03:12:30,930 --> 03:12:32,128
compliance training that, you

6191
03:12:32,128 --> 03:12:32,762
know, that plan could learn

6192
03:12:32,762 --> 03:12:34,630
from, you know, agencies that we

6193
03:12:34,630 --> 03:12:36,699
all sit on that do very good

6194
03:12:36,699 --> 03:12:38,534
work on track and oversight. So

6195
03:12:38,534 --> 03:12:39,869
with that, MR. Chair, those are

6196
03:12:39,869 --> 03:12:41,604
my comments for the day.

6197
03:12:41,604 --> 03:12:44,407
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

6198
03:12:44,407 --> 03:12:46,141
supervisor. I will make a few

6199
03:12:46,141 --> 03:12:47,743
of my own. First, I'd like to

6200
03:12:47,743 --> 03:12:49,745
thank supervisor nguyen for

6201
03:12:49,745 --> 03:12:52,181
setting up the little seance we

6202
03:12:52,181 --> 03:12:53,782
had with the hud people and the

6203
03:12:53,782 --> 03:12:56,753
staff that attend as well, and

6204
03:12:56,753 --> 03:13:00,353
particularly our ceo. It was, I

6205
03:13:00,822 --> 03:13:01,524
thought, a good rapport that was

6206
03:13:01,524 --> 03:13:02,358
established, something I don't

6207
03:13:02,358 --> 03:13:05,161
think we've had in the past.

6208
03:13:05,161 --> 03:13:06,796
You can look at all of the words

6209
03:13:06,796 --> 03:13:09,299
in your application, but when

6210
03:13:09,299 --> 03:13:10,500
you put it face to face, it

6211
03:13:10,500 --> 03:13:11,100
really helps. I think we'll

6212
03:13:11,100 --> 03:13:13,500
move forward successfully when

6213
03:13:15,370 --> 03:13:15,605
we get to those various

6214
03:13:15,605 --> 03:13:18,500
applications that they were

6215
03:13:20,577 --> 03:13:21,644
talking about. And I had my

6216
03:13:21,644 --> 03:13:23,746
usual good time on valentine's

6217
03:13:23,746 --> 03:13:26,150
day. My eighth year in a row

6218
03:13:26,150 --> 03:13:28,118
that I've spent in the clerk's

6219
03:13:28,118 --> 03:13:29,752
office officiating weddings. I

6220
03:13:29,752 --> 03:13:31,354
was able to do six of them this

6221
03:13:31,354 --> 03:13:34,157
last valentine's day at the

6222
03:13:34,157 --> 03:13:36,920
anaheim office. And that for me

6223
03:13:36,920 --> 03:13:39,329
is always fun, to see some happy

6224
03:13:39,329 --> 03:13:42,329
people and participate in their

6225
03:13:45,901 --> 03:13:48,204
joy. We have a couple events

6226
03:13:48,204 --> 03:13:50,506
coming up. We have our elder

6227
03:13:50,506 --> 03:13:52,208
fraud prevention. There it is.

6228
03:13:52,208 --> 03:13:55,208
Up, there coming up this

6229
03:13:55,944 --> 03:13:57,947
thursday. Elderly people are

6230
03:13:57,947 --> 03:13:59,490
probability most often scammed

6231
03:13:59,490 --> 03:14:02,885
group. So we want to give them

6232
03:14:02,885 --> 03:14:05,550
as much information so they can

6233
03:14:05,550 --> 03:14:05,789
protect themselves. So that's

6234
03:14:05,789 --> 03:14:08,124
coming up. The information is

6235
03:14:08,124 --> 03:14:08,959
up there. It is thursday at

6236
03:14:08,959 --> 03:14:10,560
noon. We'll have a little

6237
03:14:10,560 --> 03:14:14,160
something to eat, as well, being

6238
03:14:16,600 --> 03:14:18,100
noontime. And then more fun, on

6239
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:20,537
MARCH 14, coming up, assuming no

6240
03:14:20,537 --> 03:14:23,439
rain, we will be holding another

6241
03:14:23,439 --> 03:14:26,760
fishing derby for kids. On

6242
03:14:26,760 --> 03:14:28,760
MARCH 14, beginning at 8:00,

6243
03:14:28,311 --> 03:14:30,280
ending at 11:00. We do have

6244
03:14:30,280 --> 03:14:31,214
fish rods and bait and all that

6245
03:14:31,214 --> 03:14:33,550
and the lake will be stocked. I

6246
03:14:33,550 --> 03:14:34,550
hope you like catfish because

6247
03:14:34,550 --> 03:14:38,150
that's what we have available at

6248
03:14:42,793 --> 03:14:45,695
this time. Always fun to see a

6249
03:14:45,695 --> 03:14:46,696
5-year-old hold up a two-foot

6250
03:14:46,696 --> 03:14:48,765
catfish. Almost the same height

6251
03:14:48,765 --> 03:14:51,134
when they hold that up. If you

6252
03:14:51,134 --> 03:14:52,536
have a fishing license after 11,

6253
03:14:52,536 --> 03:14:53,937
there's still plenty of fish

6254
03:14:53,937 --> 03:14:55,738
there, you can join in, even

6255
03:14:55,738 --> 03:14:57,107
though you're not a kid. So

6256
03:14:57,107 --> 03:14:59,609
some fun things coming up for

6257
03:14:59,609 --> 03:15:01,912
me. We also at the end of the

6258
03:15:01,912 --> 03:15:02,579
day appreciate the orange county

6259
03:15:02,579 --> 03:15:04,979
employee association coming in

6260
03:15:05,549 --> 03:15:07,684
and providing lunch with their

6261
03:15:07,684 --> 03:15:09,585
hot dog machine that they have

6262
03:15:09,585 --> 03:15:10,454
there. So ceo agruye

6263
03:15:10,454 --> 03:15:12,454
rey, do you

6264
03:15:12,856 --> 03:15:14,858
have any -- ceo aguirre, do you

6265
03:15:14,858 --> 03:15:15,580
have any comments you'd like to

6266
03:15:15,580 --> 03:15:15,759
make.

6267
03:15:15,759 --> 03:15:17,327
>>michelle aguirre: I'll echo

6268
03:15:17,327 --> 03:15:18,929
the comments from yourself and

6269
03:15:18,929 --> 03:15:19,730
also from supervisor nguyen

6270
03:15:19,730 --> 03:15:21,198
related to our meeting with hud

6271
03:15:21,198 --> 03:15:22,665
on friday night. I think one of

6272
03:15:22,665 --> 03:15:25,701
the things that I found to be

6273
03:15:25,701 --> 03:15:27,103
most impactful was when we were

6274
03:15:27,103 --> 03:15:28,710
speaking about clearing the

6275
03:15:28,710 --> 03:15:30,840
riverbed, and a couple of the

6276
03:15:30,840 --> 03:15:31,508
graduates of the oc rescue

6277
03:15:31,508 --> 03:15:33,943
mission from actually on the

6278
03:15:33,943 --> 03:15:35,120
riverbed at that time. So it

6279
03:15:35,120 --> 03:15:37,280
was great to be able to

6280
03:15:37,280 --> 03:15:37,981
communicate with them and hear

6281
03:15:37,981 --> 03:15:39,382
their stories.

6282
03:15:39,382 --> 03:15:40,884
I thought it

6283
03:15:40,884 --> 03:15:42,785
was a great night also. So

6284
03:15:42,785 --> 03:15:45,656
thank you. And just one

6285
03:15:45,656 --> 03:15:48,656
shout-out, so this past friday,

6286
03:15:49,590 --> 03:15:51,762
the ceo government affairs and

6287
03:15:51,762 --> 03:15:53,830
communications team conducted an

6288
03:15:53,830 --> 03:15:56,332
oc cares photo shoot to dewpoint

6289
03:15:56,332 --> 03:15:57,900
the great work that our oc cares

6290
03:15:57,900 --> 03:16:00,204
initiative is doing. And it was

6291
03:16:00,204 --> 03:16:03,204
at craig regional park in

6292
03:16:03,807 --> 03:16:05,609
fullerton. We just want to give

6293
03:16:05,609 --> 03:16:08,412
kudos to the four parpght

6294
03:16:08,412 --> 03:16:10,412
probation officers, michael

6295
03:16:10,614 --> 03:16:13,140
castill, colleen burn, francisco

6296
03:16:13,851 --> 03:16:15,719
free was, and jorge cast none

6297
03:16:15,719 --> 03:16:16,854
for their time, professionalism

6298
03:16:16,854 --> 03:16:18,722
and their commitment to this

6299
03:16:18,722 --> 03:16:20,590
initiative and to our community

6300
03:16:20,590 --> 03:16:21,824
partner project kinship for

6301
03:16:21,824 --> 03:16:24,600
their participation. And then

6302
03:16:24,600 --> 03:16:27,660
this was right after the stormy

6303
03:16:28,464 --> 03:16:29,566
weather that we had last week.

6304
03:16:29,566 --> 03:16:32,169
And so a big thank you to the oc

6305
03:16:32,169 --> 03:16:34,704
parks crew who went above and

6306
03:16:34,704 --> 03:16:37,741
beyond to ensure that we had a

6307
03:16:37,741 --> 03:16:40,141
successful production at craig

6308
03:16:40,743 --> 03:16:42,880
park. Park ranger james kim,

6309
03:16:42,880 --> 03:16:43,981
supervising park ranger jason

6310
03:16:43,981 --> 03:16:46,381
arthur along with our

6311
03:16:46,717 --> 03:16:49,117
maintenance team of chavez,

6312
03:16:53,657 --> 03:16:55,359
caesar, alvarez and enrique

6313
03:16:55,359 --> 03:16:57,795
ororsco led a clean-up effort,

6314
03:16:57,795 --> 03:17:00,795
even repainting the hand ball

6315
03:17:02,232 --> 03:17:04,635
court before the photo shoot,

6316
03:17:04,635 --> 03:17:06,970
cleaning up debris, and just a

6317
03:17:06,970 --> 03:17:08,171
shout-out to you. Greatly

6318
03:17:08,171 --> 03:17:10,700
appreciate all of your efforts.

6319
03:17:10,700 --> 03:17:10,808
Thank you, chair.

6320
03:17:10,808 --> 03:17:13,277
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

6321
03:17:13,277 --> 03:17:16,877
MADAM Ceo. MADAM Clerk, you can

6322
03:17:19,750 --> 03:17:21,519
read the closed-session items.

6323
03:17:21,519 --> 03:17:21,852
>>clerk, robin stieler: cs-1 has

6324
03:17:21,852 --> 03:17:22,486
been deleted.

6325
03:17:22,486 --> 03:17:23,254
>>clerk, robin stieler: cs-2.

6326
03:17:23,254 --> 03:17:24,521
Public employee performance

6327
03:17:24,521 --> 03:17:26,521
evaluation-pursuant to

6328
03:17:27,691 --> 03:17:28,725
government code section 54957(B):

6329
03:17:28,725 --> 03:17:30,460
title:executive director of the

6330
03:17:30,460 --> 03:17:33,300
campaign finance and ethics commission.

6331
03:17:33,300 --> 03:17:35,430
(Continued from 2/10/26, item cs-2)

6332
03:17:40,337 --> 03:17:41,500
Scs3. County counsel-

6333
03:17:41,500 --> 03:17:41,772
conference with legal counsel-

6334
03:17:41,772 --> 03:17:43,240
existing litigation-pursuant

6335
03:17:43,240 --> 03:17:44,750
to government code section 54956.9(D)(1):

6336
03:17:44,750 --> 03:17:44,909
name of case: mind oc v. County

6337
03:17:44,909 --> 03:17:45,709
of orange, orange county

6338
03:17:45,709 --> 03:17:46,543
superior court case

6339
03:17:46,543 --> 03:17:47,411
no.: 30-2024-01442012-cu-co-cjc.

6340
03:17:47,411 --> 03:17:48,446
Scs4. County counsel-

6341
03:17:48,446 --> 03:17:49,413
conference with legal counsel-

6342
03:17:49,413 --> 03:17:51,413
existing litigation-pursuant

6343
03:17:51,816 --> 03:17:53,217
to government code section 54956.9(D)(1):

6344
03:17:53,217 --> 03:17:54,284
name of cases: clarisse magtoto

6345
03:17:54,284 --> 03:17:57,284
v. County of orange, orange

6346
03:18:07,198 --> 03:18:07,932
county superior court case no. 30-2022-01241335,

6347
03:18:07,932 --> 03:18:08,566
amy tallakson v. County of

6348
03:18:08,566 --> 03:18:09,367
orange, orange county superior

6349
03:18:09,367 --> 03:18:10,200
court case no. 30-2022-01241346,

6350
03:18:10,200 --> 03:18:10,901
shabnum azizi v. County of

6351
03:18:10,901 --> 03:18:11,636
orange, orange county superior

6352
03:18:11,636 --> 03:18:12,336
court case no. 30-2022-01232544,

6353
03:18:12,336 --> 03:18:13,204
mallory miller v. County of

6354
03:18:13,204 --> 03:18:13,971
orange, orange county superior

6355
03:18:13,971 --> 03:18:14,772
court case no. 30-2022-01252436,

6356
03:18:14,772 --> 03:18:15,705
bethel cope-vega v. County of

6357
03:18:15,705 --> 03:18:16,507
orange, orange county superior

6358
03:18:16,507 --> 03:18:17,475
court case no. 30-2022-01252452,

6359
03:18:17,475 --> 03:18:18,442
mohammad abuershaid v. County of

6360
03:18:18,442 --> 03:18:19,110
orange, orange county superior

6361
03:18:19,110 --> 03:18:19,844
court case no. 30-2022-01243989,

6362
03:18:19,844 --> 03:18:20,645
and tracy miller v. County of

6363
03:18:20,645 --> 03:18:23,645
orange et al., orange county

6364
03:18:24,147 --> 03:18:24,749
superior court case no. 30-2022-01262015.

6365
03:18:24,749 --> 03:18:27,749
>>chair, doug chaffee: we are

6366
03:18:30,488 --> 03:18:32,888
adjourned to closed sessions.

6367
03:20:35,393 --> 03:20:37,793
>>leon page: pursuant to

6368
03:20:39,296 --> 03:20:40,564
government code section 5 foifer

6369
03:20:40,564 --> 03:20:41,499
5497b and section d the board

6370
03:20:41,499 --> 03:20:43,000
met in closed sessions to

6371
03:20:43,000 --> 03:20:46,000
discuss the items referenced on

6372
03:20:46,370 --> 03:20:49,637
today's agenda as cs2, cs3, and

6373
03:20:49,907 --> 03:20:50,641
scs4. Cs1 was actually deleted.

6374
03:20:50,641 --> 03:20:52,777
With respect to those three

6375
03:20:52,777 --> 03:20:54,544
items the board took no

6376
03:20:54,544 --> 03:20:55,479
reportable action in closed

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sessions today. Thank you.

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>>clerk, robin stieler: that

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concludes today'sed a. The next

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meeting is scheduled for tuesday

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MARCH 10th at 9:30 A.M.

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Today's meeting of the orange

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county board of supervisors