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>> good morning.

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the october 11th, 2016 placer county

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board of supervisors meeting will come

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to order.

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will you please join me in the flag

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salute.

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[recitation of the pledge of allegiance]

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>> thank you.

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we'll now have our meeting procedures

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read by the clerk.

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>> clerk: welcome to the placer county

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board of supervisors meeting of tuesday

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october 11th,2016.

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agendas are available outside this

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meeting room.

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please note that the board is not

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permitted to take action on items

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addressed under public comment.

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all items on the agenda will be open for

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public comments before final action is

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taken.

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when you speak, clearly state your name

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for the record and be aware there is a

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three-minute time limit per speaker.

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keep in mind the chairman has discretion

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of limiting the total discussion time on

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any item.

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please place all cell phones in silent

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mode.

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if you're hearing impaired, we have

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listening devices available.

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thank you for your listening and

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cooperation.

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>> next is our consent agenda.

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this is a list of routine items intended

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to be all considered in one motion.

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we'd be happy to be pull anything for

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individual discussion if any of my

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colleagues or anyone from the audience

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would prefer that.

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are there requests for consent items to

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be discussed individually?

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seeing none.

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moved and seconded to approve the

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consent as is.

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roll call.

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>> clerk: supervisor holmes,

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supervisor duran.

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supervisor uhler, supervisor montgomery,

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chairman weygandt.

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>> yes.

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now is the time for public comment when

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anyone can approach the board and

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address anything not on the agenda.

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please come forward and state your name.

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>> placer county 4-h, I want to invite

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you to the "you make it you take it"

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expo october 29th from 9:00 to 3:00 at

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the sierra building at the fair.

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it's open to the public.

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anyone can come.

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there is no cost to come in but we

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charge for the materials to make the

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crafts.

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we have about 30 crafts and it's from

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9:00 to 3:00.

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>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

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>> good morning.

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thanks for listening to me.

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I'm scott von. I live next to the park

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in south placer.

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if you look before you, I've provided

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some materials for -- complaint that

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we're issuing.

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I have signatures from 50 different

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households to talk about expansion of a

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facility going on in our residential

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neighborhood.

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this facility was -- is a new facility.

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there is a storage facility in the area

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built in 1986.

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we've raised concerns it doesn't belong

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in the enabled.

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it's to add r.v. Storage and parking in

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the neighborhood next to the park.

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that goes down a local street 25 feet

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wide and we have a lot of kids and we're

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concerned about the safety.

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when we talk to the planning department

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and asked how it was permitted in this

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zone, we were told there was a vested

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right in 1986.

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we put in a public records act and

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haven't seen any information.

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our concern is that this is not properly

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been studied or the public is not

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considered in putting this storage

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facility in this neighborhood.

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my colleague or fellow neighbor will

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talk a little bit about some of the

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different violations that we see in

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players code.

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but the questions vested from 1986 and

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when we were asked again it was 1998

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then 2007.

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no one can find how this was permitted

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in a residential zone.

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in addition, we were told that ceqa was

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to be invalidated because it was vested.

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the applicant blew through a creek.

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he'll be issued a notice of violence and

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he has to redo the plans in ceqa.

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we'd like it to be stopped and public

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comment to be heard and understand why

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this commercial facility is being put in

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a residential neighborhood.

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it doesn't belong there.

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we don't want it there.

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and it's supposedly supposed to be built

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for residents of my neighborhood.

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there are 1100 homes in my neighborhood.

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this adds 100 to 200 already existing

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r.v. Storage spaces and another 600

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spaces.

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we're talking about roughly 8, 900

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spaces per 1100 homes.

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it doesn't make much math for our

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community.

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so my concern is there are violations of

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law ceqa.

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we'll see other agencies and what I'd

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like to see the board of supervisors

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take some sort of action in the future

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or on the agenda point to review it.

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something from 1986 or 1998 does not

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have perpetuity ability to develop that

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lot in a residential neighborhood.

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>> we've referred this to the community

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development resources director upon

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receipt and we'll get feedback from him.

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>> will you contact my staff or anybody

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else?

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we have the contact information there.

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>> I think the best bet is to have

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that --

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>> that's good.

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I think jim was going to bring up other

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>> good morning.

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thanks for the opportunity.

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again, realizing that you can't take

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action on these things but I wanted you

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aware of them.

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>> can you state your name.

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>> jim cook.

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I live in tree lake village.

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I have young children and I'm concerned

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with the level of tract.

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this tried to expand in 2007 and we were

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able to get them to stop.

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we were not notified on this expansion

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and we were curious on how this

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occurred.

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we see this as a violation of section 17

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zoning.

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this was created in 1986.

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if you look at the tables and zoning

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tables, there are no conditions under --

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under which a storage facility was

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allowed.

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we don't know how that was allowed and

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for a permit that shouldn't be in

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existence for a storage facility.

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we see a violation that the -- assuming

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that first complaint is valid, the

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second complaint is that the conditional

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use permits only says boats and r.v.s,

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but gardening, storage units holding

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furniture and other items in that

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facility that is not zoned appropriate

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for that.

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the third item is waste disposal.

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there is a tree disposal service there

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carving up trees and putting woodchips

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all over the property.

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it's a fire hazard.

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we've already had one fire out there.

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the fourth item is section 17 zoning

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that you're he not allowed to have

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hazardous materials.

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we have gardening organizations running

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the businesses out of there.

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a lot of fuels and chemicals and poisons

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in that facility.

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that shouldn't be allowed.

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our ask was that we treat this as a

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nuisance because it's in violation of

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code and the planning department take

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action to abate the nuisance.

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you know it's a crime to allow such a

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thing to occur as a zoning violation.

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we'd like that looked into.

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realizing you can't take action but we'd

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like to get on a formal agenda to file

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the complaint.

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once we have more data from the planning

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department, we're almost 10 days in and

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we haven't received any the documents we

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requested.

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so we come in relatively unarmed with

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the information we need to make more

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detailed arguments.

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thank you for your time.

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>> good morning ellie wahler tahoe

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resident.

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at the board hearing in tahoe.

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you suspended and ended comment on

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martis valley west.

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I wasn't sure when it was appropriate to

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ask.

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I researched the development agreement

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you're proving today and there are

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amendments that should be required of

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that.

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I hope you'll open public comment.

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thank you.

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>> good morning reservation alliance,

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I'm requesting public comment be open

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for the martis valley west hearing.

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in addition to what ellie wahler said,

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there is more new information.

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the martis valley operating agreement

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which was the preservation of the land,

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the land conservation entities for

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public lands and trukee [inaudible]

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pulled out of the agreement.

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they will not be negotiating on it since

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it's so contentious with the environment

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groups and the fire life safety and

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evacuation report came out for that

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lawsuit and that settlement.

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what it says is without the approval of

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that project, the [inaudible] budget

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approved a couple of years ago, there is

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not enough protection existing in our

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area that people cannot get out.

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unless they build a new fire station on

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the west shore, unless they hire more

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people.

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they hire new trucks.

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do a study of the lake.

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rolling your eyes, really, we all share

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three roads, 89, 28 and 267.

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that's it for everybody.

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our population goes up to over 150,000

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on weekends.

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we need you to hear this.

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this is from the north lake tahoe fire

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department from this report.

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it says we don't have enough protection.

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I hope you'll open the hearing so we can

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address these things with the public.

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thank you.

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>> is there anyone else that would like

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to address the board on something not on

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the agenda?

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>> good morning chair weygandt and

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supervisors.

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I'm [inaudible] with preservation.

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we did address the land trust partner

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and our recent submittal to you on

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friday and the homewood safety report.

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I think those are two important things

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that could affect mitigation from martis

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valley west and recommended approval for

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the project.

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also I think one of the things we

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addressed in our letter are the findings

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in the staff report and we would like to

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comment on that as well if possible.

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thank you.

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>> anyone else like to address something

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not on the agenda?

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seeing none.

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we'll move on to board committee

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reports.

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kirk.

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>> I wanted to report some supervisor

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holmes and I serve on the board.

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we were delivered exciting news in our

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last meeting by the executive director.

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that is all the advanced planning that

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has been done for the 8065 interchange

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construction has cleared environmental

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review.

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we have a project that is now truly

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shovel ready if we have the funds to

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build it.

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the design work is on and environment

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work is done.

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if we have the funds to build the

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project, we can build it.

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I wanted to let the board know.

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>> supervisor weygandt: jim.

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>> thank you, mr. Chair.

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I need to address the board about the

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transient population in north auburn.

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over the last several weeks have been

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increasing number of confrontations

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between transients, people shot in

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parking lots, community members and

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members.

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there was a fire started that threatened

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a deer ridge community in north auburn

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started by a transient.

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last two weeks there are dramatic

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increases in confrontations.

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two transients were hit by a car on

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atlee road killing one of them.

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last week one of our employees was

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harassed as he came back from lunch

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going back to work.

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we have employees who wait in their cars

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before going into the workplace to make

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sure there are no transients hanging

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around.

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last thursday three county -- employees

328
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were attack and one knocked down.

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now we have employees arming themselves

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with pepper spray.

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then a violent confrontation with a

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transient demonstrating violent and

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threatening behavior.

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thankfully the sheriff's department was

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able to subdue him and arrest him.

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I thank the sheriff's department for

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providing safety for the community of

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north auburn.

339
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though we're not providing our employees

340
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a safe workplace.

341
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I've been to three homeless shelters in

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different counties.

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those shelters have been away from

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population centers.

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we're trying to put a square peg in a

346
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round hole and it's not working and I

347
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want to see the shelter overflow closed

348
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as soon as possible then take a hard

349
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look at the shelter itself.

350
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that shelter is in the wrong place.

351
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thank you, mr. Chair.

352
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>> jennifer.

353
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>> thank you, I wanted to report that

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supervisor holmes and I attended the

355
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rcrc general conference in squaw valley.

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there were a number of interesting and

357
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valuable presentations.

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I'm sure that supervisor holmes took

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away from additional information in some

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of those presentations.

361
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very interesting presentation

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particularly on the very murky future

363
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for cannabis in california.

364
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which really enforced my belief this is

365
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an issue that we're probably going to be

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revisiting multiple times over the next

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few years.

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supervisor holmes, was there anything

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else on that you wanted to add?

370
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>> supervisor holmes: regarding the

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marijuana issue the state has been

372
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putting into your laps.

373
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it's like opening the door to toon town.

374
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it's going to be bizarre when all this

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rolls out.

376
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I think we should put off our discussion

377
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regarding the marijuana issue until

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after november 8th.

379
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that will be up to the rest of the

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board.

381
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very concerning about how it's rolling

382
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out and all kinds of different

383
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perspective from different people and

384
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organizations.

385
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>> supervisor montgomery: we had

386
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someone from public policy ppic --

387
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institute of california.

388
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I knew I'd get it.

389
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the increases in crime that we've been

390
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seeing in california.

391
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interestingly across the nation.

392
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particularly as it related to ad-109 and

393
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trying to it determine if there was

394
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tracking that could or gate increase in

395
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crime with ab-109.

396
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the general consensus we seem to see

397
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crime on the rise throughout the nation.

398
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that in states that have not adopted

399
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ab-109 style reform, and I use is that

400
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word knowing what it means.

401
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we've seen very, very similar increases

402
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in crime.

403
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I think there is a lot of follow-up to

404
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do.

405
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there is still a great deal of question

406
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around proposition 47.

407
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we didn't have enough data so the

408
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passage of prop 47 to draw any

409
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conclusion about increases in crime as

410
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it relates to prop 47.

411
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but within the next year, that data

412
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should exist and there will probably be

413
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some conclusions that could be drawn at

414
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that time.

415
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it was a worthwhile expenditure of our

416
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time.

417
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it was at squaw valley so I got to sleep

418
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in my own bed each night which was nice.

419
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but rcrc has been a terrific platform

420
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for vetting the issues.

421
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I wanted you to know we were

422
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well-represented and we had a great

423
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basket as well for the raffle.

424
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>> I want to who shout out for marra

425
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rowe from the placer county visitor's

426
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bureau.

427
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every county brings a basket and we buy

428
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raffle tickets to raise funds for the

429
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president of the rural county

430
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representatives of california.

431
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that's rcrc.

432
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but, so usually when supervisor wins a

433
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basket, they give it back and we auction

434
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it off.

435
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the one that mora from placer visitor's

436
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bureau, no one was going to send that

437
00:19:34,928 --> 00:19:35,928
back.

438
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it was tremendous.

439
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and supervisor from tahama county won it

440
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and he said my wife has been looking for

441
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something like this for a long time.

442
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so go mora rowe.

443
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that was great.

444
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rcrc is a great organization.

445
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there are 32 rural counties that are

446
00:19:58,928 --> 00:19:59,928
into that.

447
00:19:59,928 --> 00:20:00,928
it's a great organization.

448
00:20:00,928 --> 00:20:02,928
I'm proud to be a part of it.

449
00:20:02,928 --> 00:20:04,928
>> okay.

450
00:20:04,928 --> 00:20:07,928
if there are no more supervisor reports,

451
00:20:07,928 --> 00:20:10,928
we're going to take up our 9:05 timed

452
00:20:10,928 --> 00:20:13,928
item where supervisor holmes is going to

453
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present accommodation to kara sutter on

454
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her retirement from the youth

455
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commission.

456
00:20:22,928 --> 00:20:23,928
>> there she is.

457
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come on down.

458
00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:30,928
kara sutter.

459
00:20:31,928 --> 00:20:36,128
it's my great honor to present this

460
00:20:36,928 --> 00:20:38,928
accommodation to kara.

461
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this is recognizing kara sutter in her

462
00:20:42,928 --> 00:20:44,928
contribution to the community in her on

463
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going dedication to the placer county

464
00:20:47,928 --> 00:20:48,928
youth commission.

465
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where as kara retired in august after

466
00:20:53,928 --> 00:20:55,928
nearly 20 years of service.

467
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in addition to working as a health

468
00:20:56,928 --> 00:21:00,528
educator, kara has served as staff

469
00:21:00,928 --> 00:21:03,928
person for the placer county youth

470
00:21:03,928 --> 00:21:06,928
commission since the inception in 2009.

471
00:21:06,928 --> 00:21:09,928
whereas kara has consistently devoted

472
00:21:10,928 --> 00:21:12,928
her time and skill to educating

473
00:21:12,928 --> 00:21:15,928
residents throughout placer county on

474
00:21:15,928 --> 00:21:17,928
how to make improvements to their lives

475
00:21:17,928 --> 00:21:20,928
in addition to giving 110% in service to

476
00:21:20,928 --> 00:21:21,928
the youth commission.

477
00:21:21,928 --> 00:21:25,528
kara is known for her support,

478
00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:27,868
involvement and ability to help youth

479
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arrive at creative solutions to issues

480
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and my, how you've done that!

481
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whereas under the direction of the

482
00:21:35,868 --> 00:21:38,868
placer county -- under her direction the

483
00:21:38,868 --> 00:21:41,868
youth commission passed social host

484
00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:45,468
ordinances in rocklin and roseville to

485
00:21:46,868 --> 00:21:50,468
hold accounts more accountable for allow

486
00:21:51,868 --> 00:21:54,868
youth to consume alcohol and established

487
00:21:54,868 --> 00:21:57,868
the youth commission's annual youth

488
00:21:57,868 --> 00:21:59,868
impact awards which recognize the

489
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positive contributions and

490
00:22:01,868 --> 00:22:04,868
accomplishments of placer county youth.

491
00:22:04,868 --> 00:22:08,468
whereas kara is known to coworkers,

492
00:22:08,868 --> 00:22:10,868
which many are here, youth

493
00:22:10,868 --> 00:22:12,868
commissioners, family and friends for

494
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her consistently optimistic outlook and

495
00:22:16,868 --> 00:22:19,868
dedication and wise approach to ensuring

496
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that the focus remains on the positive

497
00:22:22,868 --> 00:22:24,808
attributes of our youth.

498
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multiple youth commissioners past and

499
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present credit kara for the high set of

500
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standards that will help to assure that

501
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they have the skills they need to become

502
00:22:38,808 --> 00:22:40,808
happy and successful adults.

503
00:22:40,808 --> 00:22:43,808
let it be known that the above

504
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accommodation passed by county of placer

505
00:22:46,808 --> 00:22:48,808
on behalf of the citizens of placer

506
00:22:48,808 --> 00:22:50,808
county on tuesday october 11th and

507
00:22:50,808 --> 00:22:53,808
recognizes kara sutter for her

508
00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:56,808
consistent invaluable service to the

509
00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:59,808
youth of placer county through her work

510
00:22:59,808 --> 00:23:01,808
with the youth commission and wishes her

511
00:23:01,808 --> 00:23:03,808
all the best on her future endeavors.

512
00:23:03,808 --> 00:23:05,808
congratulations and I will miss you.

513
00:23:05,808 --> 00:23:07,808
[applause]

514
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[applause]

515
00:23:40,748 --> 00:23:43,148
>> I wasn't expecting this.

516
00:23:46,748 --> 00:23:49,748
it's like -- I like being behind the

517
00:23:49,748 --> 00:23:52,748
scenes and thought I'd sneak out

518
00:23:52,748 --> 00:23:53,748
silently.

519
00:23:53,748 --> 00:23:56,748
but thank you very much board of

520
00:23:56,748 --> 00:24:00,348
supervisors and thank you back in 2009

521
00:24:00,748 --> 00:24:03,748
of approving the placer community youth

522
00:24:03,748 --> 00:24:04,748
commission.

523
00:24:04,748 --> 00:24:05,748
it's been an honor to work with my

524
00:24:05,748 --> 00:24:08,748
placer county coworkers in a number of

525
00:24:08,748 --> 00:24:09,748
divisions.

526
00:24:09,748 --> 00:24:12,748
that was fun with the commission, I got

527
00:24:12,748 --> 00:24:14,748
to work with different departments as

528
00:24:14,748 --> 00:24:16,748
well as our community partners.

529
00:24:16,748 --> 00:24:18,748
we have a great community and most of

530
00:24:18,748 --> 00:24:21,748
all, the young people of this county.

531
00:24:21,748 --> 00:24:26,688
I would say to maybe now more than ever,

532
00:24:26,688 --> 00:24:27,688
listen to our young people.

533
00:24:27,688 --> 00:24:30,688
ask them their opinion and consider

534
00:24:30,688 --> 00:24:33,688
their input and their best interests in

535
00:24:33,688 --> 00:24:35,688
our decision making.

536
00:24:36,688 --> 00:24:38,688
here and everywhere.

537
00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:42,688
that's the best way to ensure an engaged

538
00:24:42,688 --> 00:24:44,688
positive active community.

539
00:24:44,688 --> 00:24:45,688
so thank you very much.

540
00:24:45,688 --> 00:24:51,880
>> if I may, first of all, I want to

541
00:24:56,688 --> 00:24:59,688
thank you for turning that youth

542
00:24:59,688 --> 00:25:03,688
commission into something that is such a

543
00:25:03,688 --> 00:25:06,688
focal point of pride, not only among

544
00:25:06,688 --> 00:25:09,688
this board and our county, but people in

545
00:25:09,688 --> 00:25:10,688
the community.

546
00:25:10,688 --> 00:25:13,688
it's fun when I have parents who talk to

547
00:25:13,688 --> 00:25:17,688
me and say, my kid got on the youth

548
00:25:17,688 --> 00:25:19,688
commission and they're excited about it.

549
00:25:19,688 --> 00:25:21,688
it's because of the environment that you

550
00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:25,628
help create in making kids realize they

551
00:25:25,628 --> 00:25:27,628
can be impactful.

552
00:25:27,628 --> 00:25:30,628
that by getting engaged, they can be

553
00:25:30,628 --> 00:25:31,628
impactful.

554
00:25:31,628 --> 00:25:34,628
I want this board to know not only have

555
00:25:34,628 --> 00:25:37,628
you done a great job there, but I had

556
00:25:37,628 --> 00:25:41,628
the pleasure of knowing your son gavin

557
00:25:41,628 --> 00:25:43,628
for a number of years as one of my

558
00:25:43,628 --> 00:25:45,628
daughter's best friends.

559
00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:49,628
I see what I magnificent job you've done

560
00:25:49,628 --> 00:25:51,628
at home with youth in raising such a

561
00:25:51,628 --> 00:25:52,628
fine young man.

562
00:25:52,628 --> 00:25:55,628
it's no wonder that our youth commission

563
00:25:55,628 --> 00:25:57,628
became the wonderful institution that it

564
00:25:57,628 --> 00:25:58,628
is today.

565
00:25:58,628 --> 00:26:00,628
because of the way that you personally

566
00:26:00,628 --> 00:26:01,628
model that in your life.

567
00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:03,628
so thank you very much for your

568
00:26:03,628 --> 00:26:05,628
commitment.

569
00:26:07,628 --> 00:26:11,228
jim, you're not done yet, kara.

570
00:26:11,628 --> 00:26:14,628
>> when the youth commission was started

571
00:26:14,628 --> 00:26:17,628
in 2009, it was a collaborative effort.

572
00:26:17,628 --> 00:26:19,628
I have to recognize a couple of people

573
00:26:19,628 --> 00:26:22,628
that worked closely with the youth

574
00:26:22,628 --> 00:26:23,628
commission and keeping my office

575
00:26:23,628 --> 00:26:27,228
informed and apprized, one is ruth

576
00:26:32,568 --> 00:26:36,168
aisles and now my girl friday.

577
00:26:36,568 --> 00:26:39,568
I need to thank them for what they've

578
00:26:39,568 --> 00:26:41,568
done in putting this youth commission

579
00:26:41,568 --> 00:26:43,568
together to make it such a success.

580
00:26:43,568 --> 00:26:45,568
thanks again, kara.

581
00:26:45,568 --> 00:26:49,168
>> I need to thank supervisor holmes'

582
00:26:50,568 --> 00:26:52,568
support and championing.

583
00:26:52,568 --> 00:26:53,568
it wouldn't have happened without you

584
00:26:53,568 --> 00:26:57,568
and the support we get in your staff.

585
00:26:57,568 --> 00:27:00,568
and all of you that have listened to the

586
00:27:00,568 --> 00:27:01,568
commissioners.

587
00:27:01,568 --> 00:27:02,568
they're going to be knocking at your

588
00:27:02,568 --> 00:27:05,568
door this year so welcome them again.

589
00:27:05,568 --> 00:27:06,568
thank you.

590
00:27:06,568 --> 00:27:07,568
>> thank you.

591
00:27:07,568 --> 00:27:10,568
>> kara, you're not quite done.

592
00:27:11,568 --> 00:27:15,568
I wanted to take the opportunity to say

593
00:27:15,568 --> 00:27:16,568
thank you as well.

594
00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:18,568
today you're aware today is the

595
00:27:18,568 --> 00:27:20,568
international day of the girl.

596
00:27:20,568 --> 00:27:24,508
you have been a wonderful role model for

597
00:27:24,508 --> 00:27:27,508
young women and girls in placer county

598
00:27:27,508 --> 00:27:28,508
and have created an opportunity for them

599
00:27:28,508 --> 00:27:32,508
on the commission to really explore and

600
00:27:32,508 --> 00:27:34,508
expand their horizons and their

601
00:27:34,508 --> 00:27:36,508
opportunities and so I think that timing

602
00:27:36,508 --> 00:27:39,508
of this accommodation from supervisor

603
00:27:39,508 --> 00:27:41,508
holmes to you in conjunction with the

604
00:27:41,508 --> 00:27:43,508
international dave the girl is

605
00:27:43,508 --> 00:27:44,508
absolutely perfect.

606
00:27:44,508 --> 00:27:46,508
thank you so much for your hard work on

607
00:27:46,508 --> 00:27:48,508
behalf of both girls and boys.

608
00:27:48,508 --> 00:27:51,508
best of luck and enjoy all your time in

609
00:27:51,508 --> 00:27:52,508
retirement.

610
00:27:52,508 --> 00:27:54,508
I'm sure you're ridiculously busy

611
00:27:54,508 --> 00:27:55,508
already.

612
00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:56,508
thank you.

613
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:58,508
[applause]

614
00:28:01,508 --> 00:28:04,508
>> supervisor weygandt: we'll now take

615
00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:09,508
up our 9:10 timed item which is to

616
00:28:09,508 --> 00:28:12,508
receive an update on the fairgrounds and

617
00:28:12,508 --> 00:28:14,508
consider authorizing the director of

618
00:28:14,508 --> 00:28:17,508
public works and facilities to negotiate

619
00:28:17,508 --> 00:28:19,508
an agreement with the south placer

620
00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:21,508
tourism.

621
00:28:21,508 --> 00:28:22,508
mark.

622
00:28:22,508 --> 00:28:23,508
>> thank you mr. Chair.

623
00:28:23,508 --> 00:28:26,448
mike riedel from public works and

624
00:28:26,448 --> 00:28:27,448
facilities.

625
00:28:27,448 --> 00:28:29,448
I'll try to be brief today.

626
00:28:29,448 --> 00:28:32,448
we're here to provide an update on the

627
00:28:32,448 --> 00:28:34,848
fair association and revitalization

628
00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:36,448
committee.

629
00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:39,448
and chairman weygandt stated you

630
00:28:40,448 --> 00:28:43,448
authorized to negotiate agreements with

631
00:28:43,448 --> 00:28:46,448
players valley tourism which would lead

632
00:28:46,448 --> 00:28:49,448
to their operation of the fairgrounds

633
00:28:49,448 --> 00:28:53,448
and through that to look at feasibility

634
00:28:53,448 --> 00:28:55,448
analysis for indoor sports and events

635
00:28:55,448 --> 00:28:56,448
center.

636
00:28:56,448 --> 00:28:58,448
the intent there is to receive direction

637
00:28:58,448 --> 00:29:01,448
from your board with the idea that we'll

638
00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:03,448
return for a future date for your

639
00:29:03,448 --> 00:29:05,448
consideration and potential approval of

640
00:29:05,448 --> 00:29:06,448
the agreements.

641
00:29:06,448 --> 00:29:07,448
as you are aware, the fair property is

642
00:29:07,448 --> 00:29:10,448
located in roseville 61-acres near

643
00:29:11,448 --> 00:29:13,448
washington boulevard and junction.

644
00:29:13,448 --> 00:29:15,848
it's been operating since 1937.

645
00:29:16,448 --> 00:29:18,448
next year will be the 80th fair held at

646
00:29:18,448 --> 00:29:19,448
this site.

647
00:29:19,448 --> 00:29:22,448
through the economic downturn in 2010,

648
00:29:22,448 --> 00:29:24,388
the state withheld their traditional

649
00:29:24,388 --> 00:29:27,388
annual support of fairs statewide.

650
00:29:27,388 --> 00:29:30,388
the placer county fair lost $200,000 a

651
00:29:30,388 --> 00:29:32,388
year in operational support through that

652
00:29:32,388 --> 00:29:33,388
action.

653
00:29:33,388 --> 00:29:34,388
some of the money starting to come back

654
00:29:34,388 --> 00:29:37,388
after the hiatus three years.

655
00:29:41,388 --> 00:29:43,388
that doesn't go far to support their

656
00:29:43,388 --> 00:29:44,388
operations.

657
00:29:44,388 --> 00:29:47,388
they had to make a number of difficult

658
00:29:47,388 --> 00:29:49,388
choices regarding staff.

659
00:29:55,388 --> 00:29:57,388
nationwide fairs and entities that

660
00:29:57,388 --> 00:30:00,388
operate them rely on rental.

661
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:06,381
the fair is four days.

662
00:30:06,381 --> 00:30:08,381
the rest of the operations year around

663
00:30:08,381 --> 00:30:09,381
support that.

664
00:30:09,381 --> 00:30:11,381
the aging facilities, many of these are

665
00:30:11,381 --> 00:30:12,381
80 years old.

666
00:30:12,381 --> 00:30:14,381
the sewer and electrical infrastructure

667
00:30:14,381 --> 00:30:15,381
are aging.

668
00:30:15,381 --> 00:30:18,381
jones and johnson hall were built in the

669
00:30:18,381 --> 00:30:19,381
50s.

670
00:30:19,381 --> 00:30:21,381
it's interesting to note that jones hall

671
00:30:21,381 --> 00:30:24,981
is 11,000 square feet and it's the

672
00:30:27,381 --> 00:30:29,381
largest facility for rent in the county.

673
00:30:29,381 --> 00:30:32,981
johnson hall, the other is about 6,000

674
00:30:35,381 --> 00:30:36,381
square feet.

675
00:30:36,381 --> 00:30:37,381
as we started to talk about the

676
00:30:37,381 --> 00:30:39,381
challenges, your board awarded a request

677
00:30:39,381 --> 00:30:43,381
contract with the rch group to help us

678
00:30:43,381 --> 00:30:46,381
know what it means to revitalized site

679
00:30:46,381 --> 00:30:48,381
or close the fairgrounds.

680
00:30:48,381 --> 00:30:51,381
we through an rfp progresses.

681
00:30:53,381 --> 00:30:55,781
they also -- process.

682
00:30:56,381 --> 00:30:58,381
they recommended a committee.

683
00:30:58,381 --> 00:30:59,381
your board about that in the beginning

684
00:30:59,381 --> 00:31:01,381
ever 2015.

685
00:31:01,381 --> 00:31:04,381
there are 11 citizens from diverse

686
00:31:04,381 --> 00:31:06,381
backgrounds who met with us 19 times to

687
00:31:06,381 --> 00:31:08,381
discuss many items regarding the

688
00:31:08,381 --> 00:31:10,381
fairgrounds.

689
00:31:10,381 --> 00:31:11,381
there are a number here in the audience

690
00:31:11,381 --> 00:31:14,381
if they could raise their hands, the

691
00:31:14,381 --> 00:31:17,381
committees represented here by a number

692
00:31:17,381 --> 00:31:19,381
of members and members from placer

693
00:31:19,381 --> 00:31:21,381
valley tourism.

694
00:31:21,381 --> 00:31:22,381
people from the fair association and

695
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:25,381
fair spray in the audience that may

696
00:31:25,381 --> 00:31:27,781
speak later in conclusion.

697
00:31:28,321 --> 00:31:32,321
with the rfp not being successful, your

698
00:31:32,321 --> 00:31:35,921
board extended the fairgrounds pcfa, the

699
00:31:38,321 --> 00:31:40,321
operating agreement through the end of

700
00:31:40,321 --> 00:31:42,321
2018.

701
00:31:43,321 --> 00:31:46,321
I talked a moment ago about the state

702
00:31:46,321 --> 00:31:47,321
bringing back funding.

703
00:31:47,321 --> 00:31:49,321
the state required some financial

704
00:31:49,321 --> 00:31:50,321
auditing.

705
00:31:50,321 --> 00:31:52,721
your auditor controllers office

706
00:31:53,321 --> 00:31:55,321
conducted an audit and did the work

707
00:31:55,321 --> 00:31:57,321
earlier this year.

708
00:31:57,321 --> 00:32:00,321
the audit identified some deficiencies

709
00:32:03,321 --> 00:32:05,321
in record keeping.

710
00:32:06,321 --> 00:32:08,321
they were low-staffed.

711
00:32:11,321 --> 00:32:13,321
it was recommended earlier this summer,

712
00:32:13,321 --> 00:32:16,321
and it was centered around better

713
00:32:16,321 --> 00:32:19,321
record-keeping, training for staff and

714
00:32:19,321 --> 00:32:21,321
reporting budget actuals and the fair

715
00:32:21,321 --> 00:32:23,721
board wholeheartedly endorsed the

716
00:32:26,321 --> 00:32:28,261
recommendations and working to make

717
00:32:28,261 --> 00:32:30,261
improvements.

718
00:32:30,261 --> 00:32:33,261
the fair ground has continued to operate

719
00:32:33,261 --> 00:32:34,261
successfully this year.

720
00:32:34,261 --> 00:32:38,461
they've had an uptick in interim event

721
00:32:40,261 --> 00:32:43,261
rentals and ran a race series that

722
00:32:43,261 --> 00:32:45,261
continues to implement operating

723
00:32:45,261 --> 00:32:47,261
restrictions to be good neighbors to the

724
00:32:47,261 --> 00:32:48,261
community.

725
00:32:48,261 --> 00:32:54,261
the fair shows a bit of a net loss due

726
00:32:55,261 --> 00:32:58,261
to entertainment expense and marketing.

727
00:32:59,261 --> 00:33:01,261
the report talks about a loss in the

728
00:33:01,261 --> 00:33:03,261
speedway although they haven't had one

729
00:33:03,261 --> 00:33:05,261
of their large events yet this year.

730
00:33:05,261 --> 00:33:06,261
the 2016 financials are still

731
00:33:06,261 --> 00:33:08,261
incomplete.

732
00:33:08,261 --> 00:33:09,261
I'm just going to skip ahead.

733
00:33:09,261 --> 00:33:12,261
because the meat of the discussion today

734
00:33:12,261 --> 00:33:13,261
is it about the future of the

735
00:33:13,261 --> 00:33:15,261
fairgrounds site.

736
00:33:16,261 --> 00:33:19,261
just to talk a little bit about -- you

737
00:33:19,261 --> 00:33:23,461
know -- the fair was well-attended this

738
00:33:27,201 --> 00:33:28,201
year.

739
00:33:28,201 --> 00:33:31,201
the agricultural events that our youth

740
00:33:31,201 --> 00:33:33,201
are engaged in were successful.

741
00:33:33,201 --> 00:33:34,201
there was a lot of community

742
00:33:34,201 --> 00:33:35,201
involvement.

743
00:33:35,201 --> 00:33:38,201
the pageant provides opportunities for

744
00:33:38,201 --> 00:33:39,201
young women in the community to take

745
00:33:39,201 --> 00:33:42,201
leadership roles and support our

746
00:33:42,201 --> 00:33:43,201
community.

747
00:33:43,201 --> 00:33:44,201
there were lots of community members

748
00:33:44,201 --> 00:33:46,201
that came out with the arts and crafts.

749
00:33:46,201 --> 00:33:50,401
I think the strawberry jelly took first

750
00:33:51,201 --> 00:33:52,201
place this year.

751
00:33:52,201 --> 00:33:54,201
we had a wine garden that some of the

752
00:33:54,201 --> 00:33:56,201
staff helped develop for the fair

753
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:59,201
association where we had placer county

754
00:33:59,201 --> 00:34:01,201
wines available for sell for the first

755
00:34:01,201 --> 00:34:02,201
time this year.

756
00:34:02,201 --> 00:34:04,201
there were lots of attractions to amuse

757
00:34:04,201 --> 00:34:05,201
people.

758
00:34:05,201 --> 00:34:07,201
entertainment opportunities.

759
00:34:07,201 --> 00:34:09,201
there was a race on saturday.

760
00:34:09,201 --> 00:34:12,201
it was generally well-attended although

761
00:34:12,201 --> 00:34:16,201
the heat was a challenge this year.

762
00:34:16,201 --> 00:34:18,201
to kind of jump back the fair

763
00:34:18,201 --> 00:34:20,201
revitalization committee has provided

764
00:34:20,201 --> 00:34:23,201
staff -- a lot of advice.

765
00:34:23,201 --> 00:34:25,201
your board allocated 200 hundred

766
00:34:25,201 --> 00:34:27,141
thousand dollars for fair ground repairs

767
00:34:27,141 --> 00:34:28,141
last year.

768
00:34:28,141 --> 00:34:29,141
we've done a lot of brainstorming about

769
00:34:29,141 --> 00:34:32,141
what are the best ways to employ the

770
00:34:32,141 --> 00:34:33,141
dollars.

771
00:34:33,141 --> 00:34:36,141
partnering with local boy scout troops

772
00:34:36,141 --> 00:34:39,141
and the northern california training

773
00:34:40,141 --> 00:34:42,141
group and we made a lot of repairs

774
00:34:42,141 --> 00:34:43,141
before the fair this year.

775
00:34:43,141 --> 00:34:45,141
this year with the fairgrounds

776
00:34:45,141 --> 00:34:48,141
revitalization committee focused on were

777
00:34:48,141 --> 00:34:51,141
the operations repair and vision.

778
00:34:52,141 --> 00:34:54,141
I want to talk about vision.

779
00:34:54,141 --> 00:34:57,141
they step and looked about why we have

780
00:34:57,141 --> 00:34:58,141
the fairgrounds.

781
00:34:58,141 --> 00:35:01,141
the purpose is to promote our youth and

782
00:35:01,141 --> 00:35:03,141
positive values.

783
00:35:03,141 --> 00:35:04,141
work ethic.

784
00:35:04,141 --> 00:35:06,141
building connections and understanding,

785
00:35:06,141 --> 00:35:09,141
voluntaryism in our community and

786
00:35:09,141 --> 00:35:12,141
provide stimulation for the minds.

787
00:35:13,141 --> 00:35:17,341
there are values that are, you know,

788
00:35:18,141 --> 00:35:20,541
endorsed by us all.

789
00:35:22,141 --> 00:35:25,141
identity needs to be authentic and

790
00:35:25,141 --> 00:35:26,141
quality.

791
00:35:26,141 --> 00:35:27,810
we need to bring the quality up in

792
00:35:27,810 --> 00:35:29,481
attitudes and in facilities.

793
00:35:30,810 --> 00:35:32,810
they talked about different concepts and

794
00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:33,810
how could you do that.

795
00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:35,810
what are the existing uses on site that

796
00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:37,810
can further emphasize community.

797
00:35:37,810 --> 00:35:39,810
I talked about the size of jones and

798
00:35:39,810 --> 00:35:40,810
johnson hall.

799
00:35:40,810 --> 00:35:42,810
there are lots of community

800
00:35:42,810 --> 00:35:45,810
organizations that rely on those.

801
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,810
folks have weddings out there.

802
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:49,810
the revitalization committee wants those

803
00:35:49,810 --> 00:35:50,810
opportunities to continue.

804
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:52,810
looking ahead, what is the vision.

805
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:55,810
what are some of the things like

806
00:35:55,810 --> 00:35:58,810
culinary common demonstrations, an urban

807
00:35:58,810 --> 00:36:01,810
farm and local festivals surrounding the

808
00:36:01,810 --> 00:36:04,810
agricultural products that can draw

809
00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:05,810
people to the site.

810
00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:08,810
one of the challenges that this air

811
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:10,810
particularly faces is that you look at a

812
00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:14,810
25-mile radius, you have the state fair

813
00:36:14,810 --> 00:36:15,810
and yellow fair.

814
00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:17,810
nevada county fair.

815
00:36:19,810 --> 00:36:21,481
six flags further away.

816
00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:24,810
how can you draw people to this site?

817
00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:26,810
the fairgrounds committee believes it's

818
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:30,210
the authentic vision they want to drive.

819
00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:32,210
they had some difficult discussions

820
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:35,210
looking at the opportunities that rch

821
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:37,210
put forward, the one that nobody likes

822
00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:39,210
to talk about is so close the fair

823
00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:40,210
grounds.

824
00:36:40,210 --> 00:36:42,210
it has benefits.

825
00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:46,210
if the property were we purposed, there

826
00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:48,210
would be profit from sales from that.

827
00:36:48,210 --> 00:36:50,210
but would the fair continue or not?

828
00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:52,210
the there are a lot of things I talked

829
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,210
about earlier that would suffer if the

830
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:56,210
fair did cease to exist.

831
00:36:56,210 --> 00:37:00,210
if we kept the existing site and it were

832
00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:03,210
sustainably operated, it's in a central

833
00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:04,210
location.

834
00:37:04,210 --> 00:37:05,210
there are opportunities to revitalize

835
00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:07,210
the property.

836
00:37:07,210 --> 00:37:08,210
but the facilities are aged.

837
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:11,210
it is a constrained site.

838
00:37:12,210 --> 00:37:15,621
rch's analysis to relocate the fair.

839
00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:20,210
they looked at a plug and play model.

840
00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:23,210
this facility could be customed designed

841
00:37:23,210 --> 00:37:25,210
but it is expensive and we don't have it

842
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:26,210
a site in mind.

843
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:27,961
and some of the ones that have been

844
00:37:27,961 --> 00:37:30,961
talked about in the west, their

845
00:37:30,961 --> 00:37:32,961
infrastructure timing issues that would

846
00:37:32,961 --> 00:37:34,961
take five to 10 years to deliver such a

847
00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:35,961
site.

848
00:37:35,961 --> 00:37:36,961
if we were to do that, you have the

849
00:37:36,961 --> 00:37:38,961
existing site and that community support

850
00:37:38,961 --> 00:37:40,961
we want to continue.

851
00:37:40,961 --> 00:37:41,961
there are difficult discussions the

852
00:37:41,961 --> 00:37:43,961
committee had.

853
00:37:45,961 --> 00:37:49,961
so through all of this, and the

854
00:37:49,961 --> 00:37:52,961
interesting thing is, we'll talk about

855
00:37:52,961 --> 00:37:53,961
placer valley tourism.

856
00:37:53,961 --> 00:37:57,561
as the committee was deliberating on

857
00:37:57,961 --> 00:37:59,961
what to recommend to your board in this

858
00:37:59,961 --> 00:38:02,961
annual report, players valley came

859
00:38:02,961 --> 00:38:05,961
forward with an opportunity to provide

860
00:38:05,961 --> 00:38:06,961
stimulus to the site.

861
00:38:06,961 --> 00:38:07,961
the committee voted on the

862
00:38:07,961 --> 00:38:09,961
recommendation and reaffirmed at the

863
00:38:09,961 --> 00:38:11,961
meeting in september.

864
00:38:11,961 --> 00:38:12,961
they believe that keeping the

865
00:38:12,961 --> 00:38:15,961
fairgrounds at the existing site could

866
00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:16,961
best service today.

867
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:17,961
it's the center the community.

868
00:38:17,961 --> 00:38:19,961
it has existing facilities and can

869
00:38:19,961 --> 00:38:21,961
continue on.

870
00:38:21,961 --> 00:38:23,961
they think that players valley tourism

871
00:38:23,961 --> 00:38:26,901
seems to support the vision, the

872
00:38:26,901 --> 00:38:29,301
tradition, the identity, the

873
00:38:29,901 --> 00:38:31,901
authenticity.

874
00:38:31,901 --> 00:38:33,901
through this idea of a new event center,

875
00:38:33,901 --> 00:38:34,901
they believe it could be an exciting

876
00:38:34,901 --> 00:38:35,901
partnership.

877
00:38:35,901 --> 00:38:38,301
they endorse these concepts.

878
00:38:39,901 --> 00:38:42,901
before I go on, I want to talk about

879
00:38:42,901 --> 00:38:44,901
placer valley tourism.

880
00:38:44,901 --> 00:38:46,901
david attaway, the c.e.o. Of placer

881
00:38:46,901 --> 00:38:50,901
valley tourism, I'd like him to speak to

882
00:38:50,901 --> 00:38:51,901
talk a little bit about his

883
00:38:51,901 --> 00:38:52,901
organization.

884
00:38:52,901 --> 00:38:54,901
they're a california nonprofit

885
00:38:54,901 --> 00:38:55,901
corporation.

886
00:38:55,901 --> 00:38:57,901
their mission is to bring people to our

887
00:38:57,901 --> 00:38:59,901
communities and support the hotel

888
00:38:59,901 --> 00:39:01,901
industry.

889
00:39:01,901 --> 00:39:04,901
and that organization is currently

890
00:39:04,901 --> 00:39:06,901
supported by an assessment on each hotel

891
00:39:06,901 --> 00:39:07,901
night.

892
00:39:07,901 --> 00:39:11,901
they have mechanisms set to raise that

893
00:39:11,901 --> 00:39:14,901
support in january to do something

894
00:39:14,901 --> 00:39:15,901
visionary.

895
00:39:15,901 --> 00:39:19,901
and they looked at their expertise is

896
00:39:19,901 --> 00:39:20,901
bringing tournaments to the region.

897
00:39:20,901 --> 00:39:23,901
they identified sort of november to

898
00:39:23,901 --> 00:39:27,841
february as the period where they have

899
00:39:27,841 --> 00:39:29,841
[inaudible] and what would be the events

900
00:39:29,841 --> 00:39:32,841
they bring in in the winter months.

901
00:39:32,841 --> 00:39:35,841
they hired a nationally recognized

902
00:39:35,841 --> 00:39:38,841
company in 2015, hunt and strategic

903
00:39:38,841 --> 00:39:40,841
partners to look at this concept and

904
00:39:40,841 --> 00:39:42,841
found that you could have a

905
00:39:42,841 --> 00:39:45,841
sustainability that brings cheer and

906
00:39:46,841 --> 00:39:50,441
volleyball and girls flag and indoor

907
00:39:51,841 --> 00:39:52,841
sports to the region and drive a lot of

908
00:39:52,841 --> 00:39:54,841
economic development.

909
00:39:55,841 --> 00:39:57,841
it was presented to the community.

910
00:39:57,841 --> 00:40:01,441
given some of placer valley commitments

911
00:40:01,841 --> 00:40:05,841
at that time they were saying it was a

912
00:40:05,841 --> 00:40:07,841
five to 10 year vision.

913
00:40:07,841 --> 00:40:10,841
they subsequently came back and said

914
00:40:10,841 --> 00:40:14,841
there may be an opportunity to -- for

915
00:40:14,841 --> 00:40:17,841
the fairgrounds for 100,000 square foot

916
00:40:19,841 --> 00:40:20,841
building on the site.

917
00:40:20,841 --> 00:40:23,841
I want to detail that before I turn it

918
00:40:23,841 --> 00:40:26,241
over to mr. Attaway.

919
00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:28,841
the concept is to revitalize the

920
00:40:28,841 --> 00:40:32,841
fairgrounds with a new center and place

921
00:40:32,841 --> 00:40:35,841
that could be a home for these sorts of

922
00:40:35,841 --> 00:40:36,841
things to drive economic development.

923
00:40:36,841 --> 00:40:40,441
a statistic that is interesting, 65% of

924
00:40:40,841 --> 00:40:43,841
our residents live within a 10-mile

925
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:46,841
radius of the fairgrounds today.

926
00:40:46,841 --> 00:40:49,841
that concept of quality, it would be a

927
00:40:49,841 --> 00:40:51,841
first-palace site.

928
00:40:52,841 --> 00:40:54,841
something that people would be drawn to.

929
00:40:54,841 --> 00:40:56,841
it would really carry the quality into

930
00:40:56,841 --> 00:40:58,841
the county fair.

931
00:40:58,841 --> 00:41:02,441
partnering with the existing network of

932
00:41:02,841 --> 00:41:05,841
volunteers that drive that event.

933
00:41:06,841 --> 00:41:09,841
partnering with experts that could run a

934
00:41:09,841 --> 00:41:12,841
sustainable racing series with fewer but

935
00:41:12,841 --> 00:41:14,841
more successful events.

936
00:41:15,841 --> 00:41:17,841
quickly, some of the physical concepts

937
00:41:17,841 --> 00:41:20,841
would be this building that could

938
00:41:20,841 --> 00:41:22,841
support the indoor sports.

939
00:41:22,841 --> 00:41:25,841
revitalizing the two large halls on site

940
00:41:25,841 --> 00:41:28,841
which have restroom and kitchen

941
00:41:29,781 --> 00:41:30,781
challenges.

942
00:41:30,781 --> 00:41:32,781
looking at ways to reconfigure the

943
00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:35,781
traffic flow on and off site to reduce

944
00:41:35,781 --> 00:41:36,781
the impacts to neighborhoods.

945
00:41:36,781 --> 00:41:39,781
repairing the parking lots which are

946
00:41:39,781 --> 00:41:42,781
aged asphalt that needs tree cover,

947
00:41:42,781 --> 00:41:44,781
adequate lighting.

948
00:41:44,781 --> 00:41:47,781
one of the things a lot of folks talked

949
00:41:47,781 --> 00:41:49,781
about is the streetscape along

950
00:41:49,781 --> 00:41:50,781
washington.

951
00:41:50,781 --> 00:41:52,781
there is a concept you could build a

952
00:41:52,781 --> 00:41:56,781
berm and clean up and enhance that

953
00:41:56,781 --> 00:41:58,781
public face to the fairgrounds.

954
00:41:58,781 --> 00:42:01,781
the speedway is in need of a facelift.

955
00:42:01,781 --> 00:42:05,781
the r.v. Campground provides -- it's

956
00:42:05,781 --> 00:42:07,781
interesting to think about this with my

957
00:42:07,781 --> 00:42:09,781
involvement I've come to understand that

958
00:42:09,781 --> 00:42:12,781
the r.v. Campground provides an

959
00:42:12,781 --> 00:42:15,781
affordable place for folks visiting

960
00:42:15,781 --> 00:42:19,381
family members at sutter or kaiser.

961
00:42:19,781 --> 00:42:22,781
when they support their families they

962
00:42:22,781 --> 00:42:24,781
can stay at the campground.

963
00:42:24,781 --> 00:42:29,581
in this instance it would be cleaned up.

964
00:42:30,721 --> 00:42:33,121
livestock barns cleaned cup.

965
00:42:35,721 --> 00:42:37,721
we want to look at them for corporate

966
00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:39,721
events or family gatherings.

967
00:42:39,721 --> 00:42:40,721
you could have a company picnic there

968
00:42:40,721 --> 00:42:44,721
and really have that connection with the

969
00:42:44,721 --> 00:42:45,721
community.

970
00:42:45,721 --> 00:42:46,721
continue to be a good neighbor.

971
00:42:46,721 --> 00:42:49,721
looking at light and sound containment.

972
00:42:49,721 --> 00:42:51,721
pulling out some of the buildings that

973
00:42:51,721 --> 00:42:54,721
are past the end of their useful life

974
00:42:54,721 --> 00:42:57,721
that need to be taken out.

975
00:42:57,721 --> 00:42:59,721
I understand small animal people in the

976
00:42:59,721 --> 00:43:02,721
audience, there would be provisions made

977
00:43:02,721 --> 00:43:04,721
for those.

978
00:43:05,721 --> 00:43:06,721
one of the exciting things as an

979
00:43:06,721 --> 00:43:08,721
architect I'm excited about the concept

980
00:43:08,721 --> 00:43:10,721
because enhancing the pedestrian

981
00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:11,721
experience.

982
00:43:11,721 --> 00:43:13,721
reducing the asphalt.

983
00:43:13,721 --> 00:43:16,721
providing landmarks so people visiting

984
00:43:16,721 --> 00:43:19,721
fairgrounds can enjoy the site.

985
00:43:19,721 --> 00:43:22,721
there are some exciting potential

986
00:43:22,721 --> 00:43:26,661
concepts in this that will be explored

987
00:43:26,661 --> 00:43:29,661
the idea of a small commercial kitchen

988
00:43:29,661 --> 00:43:32,661
where farmers could can their fruits and

989
00:43:32,661 --> 00:43:34,661
put players grow out there.

990
00:43:34,661 --> 00:43:36,661
to look at the performance spaces and

991
00:43:36,661 --> 00:43:39,661
have smaller venue that can have

992
00:43:39,661 --> 00:43:41,661
advanced acoustics to support some of

993
00:43:41,661 --> 00:43:44,661
the pageants and interim events.

994
00:43:44,661 --> 00:43:47,661
with our climate and to give visual

995
00:43:47,661 --> 00:43:50,661
interest and relief from the heat, some

996
00:43:50,661 --> 00:43:53,661
sort of water feature as a concept.

997
00:43:53,661 --> 00:43:56,661
placer valley tourism has capacity to

998
00:43:56,661 --> 00:43:57,661
bond for $30 million.

999
00:43:57,661 --> 00:43:59,661
the interesting thing on the collateral

1000
00:43:59,661 --> 00:44:01,661
for that because there is an improvement

1001
00:44:01,661 --> 00:44:02,661
district.

1002
00:44:02,661 --> 00:44:04,661
it would be funded through the increment

1003
00:44:04,661 --> 00:44:05,661
on the hotels.

1004
00:44:05,661 --> 00:44:07,661
there are no buildings or land that

1005
00:44:07,661 --> 00:44:09,661
requires collateral.

1006
00:44:09,661 --> 00:44:12,661
placer valley tourism is looking for

1007
00:44:12,661 --> 00:44:13,661
partners.

1008
00:44:13,661 --> 00:44:15,661
they're looking at partners with the

1009
00:44:15,661 --> 00:44:16,661
county and city.

1010
00:44:16,661 --> 00:44:19,661
I'd like to say it could be costly.

1011
00:44:19,661 --> 00:44:23,661
I hesitate to put numbers out there.

1012
00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:24,661
is it 10%?

1013
00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:25,661
20%?

1014
00:44:25,661 --> 00:44:27,661
county match?

1015
00:44:28,601 --> 00:44:29,601
several million dollars?

1016
00:44:29,601 --> 00:44:30,601
we don't know.

1017
00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:31,601
we haven't had the conversations.

1018
00:44:31,601 --> 00:44:37,601
I want to put out a large number to you

1019
00:44:40,601 --> 00:44:44,801
-- as I said earlier, placer valley

1020
00:44:46,601 --> 00:44:48,601
tumor is a marketing expert.

1021
00:44:48,601 --> 00:44:50,601
they have a strong record in this.

1022
00:44:50,601 --> 00:44:52,601
they have exciting new ideas.

1023
00:44:52,601 --> 00:44:55,601
to look at other agricultural, there

1024
00:44:55,601 --> 00:44:58,601
aren't rice or almond or nut festivals.

1025
00:44:58,601 --> 00:45:01,601
to capture those and tie our agriculture

1026
00:45:01,601 --> 00:45:03,601
back to our urban communities.

1027
00:45:03,601 --> 00:45:06,601
the idea of revitalizing the existing

1028
00:45:06,601 --> 00:45:08,601
buildings and looking at new ways to

1029
00:45:08,601 --> 00:45:12,601
market them but still hit the price

1030
00:45:12,601 --> 00:45:13,601
point for the community organizations.

1031
00:45:13,601 --> 00:45:16,601
some of the financial projections that

1032
00:45:16,601 --> 00:45:18,601
we've seen from placer valley tourism

1033
00:45:18,601 --> 00:45:20,601
that we're vetting with the economic

1034
00:45:20,601 --> 00:45:23,601
development division of the county.

1035
00:45:23,601 --> 00:45:25,601
they're saying there could be 40,000

1036
00:45:25,601 --> 00:45:26,541
room nights.

1037
00:45:26,541 --> 00:45:28,541
you could have $15 million coming into

1038
00:45:28,541 --> 00:45:29,541
the community.

1039
00:45:29,541 --> 00:45:31,541
some large numbers over 20 years.

1040
00:45:31,541 --> 00:45:34,541
you could have 300 full-time equivalent

1041
00:45:34,541 --> 00:45:36,541
positions operating the site.

1042
00:45:36,541 --> 00:45:39,541
then the construction jobs too is

1043
00:45:39,541 --> 00:45:40,541
important.

1044
00:45:40,541 --> 00:45:44,141
that initial -- because we revitalized

1045
00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:46,541
the site, it has a significant impact on

1046
00:45:46,541 --> 00:45:47,541
the community.

1047
00:45:47,541 --> 00:45:50,541
to run through the concept quickly.

1048
00:45:50,541 --> 00:45:54,741
this is where I'll segue mr. Attaway.

1049
00:45:55,541 --> 00:45:58,541
the building to the left is a place

1050
00:45:58,541 --> 00:46:01,541
where the building center could go on

1051
00:46:01,541 --> 00:46:02,541
the west side.

1052
00:46:02,541 --> 00:46:04,541
I know it's hard when you're using the

1053
00:46:04,541 --> 00:46:05,541
pointer.

1054
00:46:05,541 --> 00:46:09,541
the idea about bringing a new entrance

1055
00:46:09,541 --> 00:46:10,541
perhaps off-junction.

1056
00:46:10,541 --> 00:46:13,541
you could funnel perhaps 60% of the

1057
00:46:13,541 --> 00:46:15,541
traffic on to the site without coming

1058
00:46:15,541 --> 00:46:16,541
through the existing neighborhoods.

1059
00:46:16,541 --> 00:46:19,541
the idea is it would be about the same

1060
00:46:19,541 --> 00:46:20,541
number of folks there today.

1061
00:46:20,541 --> 00:46:21,541
if you did have a number of buildings on

1062
00:46:21,541 --> 00:46:23,541
the site.

1063
00:46:24,541 --> 00:46:28,481
those people would be indoors -- they'd

1064
00:46:28,481 --> 00:46:30,481
be enjoying the site.

1065
00:46:30,481 --> 00:46:34,481
same number of park -- parking places.

1066
00:46:34,481 --> 00:46:36,481
I guess I'm hesitating because it's hard

1067
00:46:36,481 --> 00:46:39,481
to point at the screen and the folks at

1068
00:46:39,481 --> 00:46:41,481
home can't see what I'm doing.

1069
00:46:41,481 --> 00:46:44,481
basically the white buildings are

1070
00:46:45,481 --> 00:46:46,481
existing.

1071
00:46:46,481 --> 00:46:48,481
yellow ones are the new buildings

1072
00:46:48,481 --> 00:46:50,481
conceptually.

1073
00:46:51,481 --> 00:46:55,481
yellow building at the top ask where the

1074
00:46:55,481 --> 00:46:57,881
culinary building would go.

1075
00:46:58,481 --> 00:47:01,481
that's the ag industry north end.

1076
00:47:01,481 --> 00:47:04,481
race district to the east.

1077
00:47:06,481 --> 00:47:08,481
one of the exciting things is this sense

1078
00:47:08,481 --> 00:47:10,481
of entry and arrival.

1079
00:47:10,481 --> 00:47:13,481
you know that you have the berm along

1080
00:47:13,481 --> 00:47:15,481
washington boulevard that would screen

1081
00:47:15,481 --> 00:47:19,681
is to the community and provide cleaned

1082
00:47:20,481 --> 00:47:22,481
up marquee events.

1083
00:47:25,481 --> 00:47:27,421
you have a sense of arrival coming on to

1084
00:47:27,421 --> 00:47:29,421
the site.

1085
00:47:29,421 --> 00:47:32,421
the race district where you remove some

1086
00:47:32,421 --> 00:47:35,421
of the asphalt and you have -- one of

1087
00:47:35,421 --> 00:47:36,421
the interesting things about the

1088
00:47:36,421 --> 00:47:38,421
way-finding concept.

1089
00:47:40,421 --> 00:47:41,421
you could have the icons.

1090
00:47:41,421 --> 00:47:44,421
meet me by the checkered pole at

1091
00:47:44,421 --> 00:47:49,221
3:00 p.m. To make it work cohesively for

1092
00:47:49,421 --> 00:47:50,421
pedestrians and visitors.

1093
00:47:50,421 --> 00:47:52,421
this is a view from inside the barns.

1094
00:47:52,421 --> 00:47:54,421
the concept of cleaning them up.

1095
00:47:54,421 --> 00:47:56,421
looking over towards the new events

1096
00:47:56,421 --> 00:47:59,421
center where that could be in the

1097
00:47:59,421 --> 00:48:00,421
future.

1098
00:48:00,421 --> 00:48:01,421
this is what the building may look like.

1099
00:48:01,421 --> 00:48:04,421
if it were to go forward.

1100
00:48:04,421 --> 00:48:08,421
there is example at myrtle beach they

1101
00:48:08,421 --> 00:48:13,221
studied and this is kind of this vision.

1102
00:48:13,421 --> 00:48:15,421
from the moment people park in this new

1103
00:48:15,421 --> 00:48:18,421
facility to have that sense of arrival

1104
00:48:18,421 --> 00:48:22,421
and really the feeling of quality that I

1105
00:48:22,421 --> 00:48:25,421
think we've been looking for at the

1106
00:48:25,421 --> 00:48:26,361
fairgrounds.

1107
00:48:26,361 --> 00:48:30,361
with that, again, I'd like to reiterate

1108
00:48:30,361 --> 00:48:33,361
that we recommend that you direct our

1109
00:48:33,361 --> 00:48:35,361
department to talk with placer valley

1110
00:48:35,361 --> 00:48:38,361
tourism to explore this concept further

1111
00:48:38,361 --> 00:48:40,361
to come back to the board.

1112
00:48:40,361 --> 00:48:42,361
and then this is the annual point at

1113
00:48:42,361 --> 00:48:43,361
which I recommend that your board not

1114
00:48:43,361 --> 00:48:46,961
exercise its option to non-renew the

1115
00:48:48,361 --> 00:48:51,361
fairgrounds agreement but to let them

1116
00:48:51,361 --> 00:48:54,361
pass this year end of december.

1117
00:48:54,361 --> 00:48:56,361
that would give the placer county fair

1118
00:48:56,361 --> 00:48:59,361
association the ability to run the 2017

1119
00:48:59,361 --> 00:49:02,361
county fair and contract for interim

1120
00:49:02,361 --> 00:49:03,361
events through 2018.

1121
00:49:03,361 --> 00:49:08,761
what I'd like do is ask mr. Attaway to

1122
00:49:10,361 --> 00:49:11,361
give his remarks.

1123
00:49:11,361 --> 00:49:12,361
>> thank you.

1124
00:49:12,361 --> 00:49:14,361
david.

1125
00:49:14,361 --> 00:49:17,361
david, just for the audience and public,

1126
00:49:17,361 --> 00:49:21,361
if you could give a brief background of

1127
00:49:21,361 --> 00:49:23,361
your organization.

1128
00:49:23,361 --> 00:49:28,301
we know who you are but you -- if you

1129
00:49:28,301 --> 00:49:29,301
could frame it.

1130
00:49:29,301 --> 00:49:32,301
>> placer valley tourism is a business

1131
00:49:32,301 --> 00:49:33,301
improvement district.

1132
00:49:33,301 --> 00:49:35,301
it's not tax funded.

1133
00:49:35,301 --> 00:49:37,701
it represents the 23 hotels.

1134
00:49:38,301 --> 00:49:40,301
and as mark pointed out, there is an

1135
00:49:40,301 --> 00:49:43,301
assessment that was requested that the

1136
00:49:43,301 --> 00:49:46,901
hotels put on themselves to draw

1137
00:49:47,301 --> 00:49:48,301
overnight stays.

1138
00:49:48,301 --> 00:49:52,301
our primary vision was to how do we fill

1139
00:49:52,301 --> 00:49:54,301
a business hotel on the weekends.

1140
00:49:54,301 --> 00:49:57,301
most of it has been sports.

1141
00:49:57,301 --> 00:50:00,901
february/march has been successful in

1142
00:50:02,301 --> 00:50:05,301
outdoor sports now we need to move on to

1143
00:50:05,301 --> 00:50:07,301
the winter to solidify that.

1144
00:50:07,301 --> 00:50:10,901
again, mark did an excellent job.

1145
00:50:11,301 --> 00:50:14,301
I could cut this down and go through it

1146
00:50:14,301 --> 00:50:15,301
quickly.

1147
00:50:15,301 --> 00:50:17,301
on behalf of placer county tourism board

1148
00:50:17,301 --> 00:50:19,301
that supported this proposal.

1149
00:50:19,301 --> 00:50:21,301
I'll proud to be in front of you this

1150
00:50:21,301 --> 00:50:24,301
morning to discuss this most exciting

1151
00:50:24,301 --> 00:50:26,301
public/private project.

1152
00:50:27,301 --> 00:50:30,901
the committee has gone through a

1153
00:50:31,301 --> 00:50:33,301
comprehensive study to find out what the

1154
00:50:33,301 --> 00:50:35,301
best future options for the fairgrounds

1155
00:50:35,301 --> 00:50:36,301
is.

1156
00:50:36,301 --> 00:50:37,301
originally they were looking for a

1157
00:50:37,301 --> 00:50:39,301
private business to come in and

1158
00:50:39,301 --> 00:50:42,301
refurbish and operate the complex.

1159
00:50:43,301 --> 00:50:46,301
a for-profit solution didn't exist.

1160
00:50:46,301 --> 00:50:49,301
what was needed was an organization that

1161
00:50:49,301 --> 00:50:51,301
loved our county as much as you.

1162
00:50:51,301 --> 00:50:54,301
and have the business acumen to bring

1163
00:50:54,301 --> 00:50:57,301
this event site into the 21st century.

1164
00:50:57,301 --> 00:50:59,301
placer valley is one of the leading

1165
00:50:59,301 --> 00:51:02,301
economic drivers of the capital region.

1166
00:51:02,301 --> 00:51:04,301
we believe this proposal will continue

1167
00:51:04,301 --> 00:51:05,301
to strengthen that position while at the

1168
00:51:05,301 --> 00:51:08,301
same time provide a phenomenal resource

1169
00:51:08,301 --> 00:51:11,301
for which all of our citizens can be

1170
00:51:11,301 --> 00:51:12,301
proud.

1171
00:51:12,301 --> 00:51:15,301
to that and, players valley tourism

1172
00:51:15,301 --> 00:51:17,301
hired people to do the designs as you

1173
00:51:17,301 --> 00:51:21,501
saw today to help us conceptualize what

1174
00:51:23,301 --> 00:51:27,241
an overall site plan may look like.

1175
00:51:27,241 --> 00:51:29,241
it would establish or maintain what we

1176
00:51:29,241 --> 00:51:32,241
call a "placer place" home for events,

1177
00:51:32,241 --> 00:51:34,241
fairs, meetings, festivals and

1178
00:51:34,241 --> 00:51:36,241
tournaments that enrich the lives of our

1179
00:51:36,241 --> 00:51:38,641
county residents creating community.

1180
00:51:39,241 --> 00:51:41,241
and driving economic development and

1181
00:51:41,241 --> 00:51:42,241
impact.

1182
00:51:42,241 --> 00:51:46,241
unique site as mark put it out, 65% of

1183
00:51:46,241 --> 00:51:48,241
the placer county residents within

1184
00:51:48,241 --> 00:51:49,241
10 miles of this site.

1185
00:51:49,241 --> 00:51:53,241
this number only grows as our county

1186
00:51:53,241 --> 00:51:54,241
continues to grow.

1187
00:51:54,241 --> 00:51:56,241
the major components are one, be a good

1188
00:51:56,241 --> 00:51:57,241
neighbor.

1189
00:51:57,241 --> 00:52:00,241
this entailing significant cleanup which

1190
00:52:00,241 --> 00:52:02,241
you've seen.

1191
00:52:02,241 --> 00:52:05,241
removing traffic land, reduces the

1192
00:52:05,241 --> 00:52:08,241
impact of egress and parking on the

1193
00:52:08,241 --> 00:52:09,241
local neighborhood.

1194
00:52:09,241 --> 00:52:11,241
improvements to sound and light

1195
00:52:11,241 --> 00:52:12,241
containment.

1196
00:52:12,241 --> 00:52:14,241
these are important issues and since I

1197
00:52:14,241 --> 00:52:17,241
live blocks away from the site, I

1198
00:52:17,241 --> 00:52:20,241
recognize how critical they are to our

1199
00:52:20,241 --> 00:52:21,241
neighborhoods.

1200
00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:24,841
second, the fair board and other

1201
00:52:25,241 --> 00:52:28,241
committed parties are creating a

1202
00:52:29,181 --> 00:52:32,181
argument-focused fair that continues to

1203
00:52:32,181 --> 00:52:35,781
attract residents and visitors to enjoy

1204
00:52:36,181 --> 00:52:38,181
the heritage and future of players

1205
00:52:38,181 --> 00:52:40,181
county.

1206
00:52:40,181 --> 00:52:43,181
the creation of a new 125,000 square

1207
00:52:43,181 --> 00:52:46,781
foot event center along with meeting

1208
00:52:47,181 --> 00:52:48,181
spaces and the raceway.

1209
00:52:48,181 --> 00:52:51,181
this will be a catalyst for the

1210
00:52:51,181 --> 00:52:54,181
revitalization of the site making it

1211
00:52:54,181 --> 00:52:56,181
ideal to suit the needs of our growing

1212
00:52:56,181 --> 00:52:57,181
county.

1213
00:52:57,181 --> 00:52:59,181
perfect for indoor sport tournaments,

1214
00:52:59,181 --> 00:53:01,181
meetings, trade shows and more.

1215
00:53:01,181 --> 00:53:04,181
along with the modernizations asphalt

1216
00:53:05,181 --> 00:53:08,181
will be removed to create a less

1217
00:53:08,181 --> 00:53:10,181
vehicular campus.

1218
00:53:11,181 --> 00:53:14,181
the players place will be ideally suited

1219
00:53:14,181 --> 00:53:16,181
to meet the needs whether it's racing,

1220
00:53:16,181 --> 00:53:18,581
festivals, concerts, circuses meetings

1221
00:53:21,181 --> 00:53:23,181
and most importantly our fair.

1222
00:53:23,181 --> 00:53:26,181
working with the racing series.

1223
00:53:28,121 --> 00:53:33,121
there could be few -- would be fewer for

1224
00:53:33,121 --> 00:53:34,121
better events.

1225
00:53:34,121 --> 00:53:36,121
we've been researching our capacity and

1226
00:53:36,121 --> 00:53:39,121
worked with our financial adviser to

1227
00:53:39,121 --> 00:53:41,121
ensure that we have the capabilities of

1228
00:53:41,121 --> 00:53:44,121
obtaining at least $30 million in bond

1229
00:53:44,121 --> 00:53:46,121
proceeds.

1230
00:53:48,121 --> 00:53:51,121
equally important, none of the land,

1231
00:53:51,121 --> 00:53:54,121
buildings or over improvements are used

1232
00:53:54,121 --> 00:53:55,121
as collateral.

1233
00:53:55,121 --> 00:53:57,121
our assessment flow is used for

1234
00:53:57,121 --> 00:53:58,121
collateral for the bond structures.

1235
00:53:58,121 --> 00:54:01,121
economic impact mark laid out to you.

1236
00:54:01,121 --> 00:54:03,121
it's strong over the course of time

1237
00:54:03,121 --> 00:54:04,121
period.

1238
00:54:04,121 --> 00:54:06,121
it will certainly add to the enhancement

1239
00:54:06,121 --> 00:54:09,121
of our community and values.

1240
00:54:09,121 --> 00:54:12,121
while we don't know the entire impact of

1241
00:54:12,121 --> 00:54:16,121
the site in terms of economics, we know

1242
00:54:16,121 --> 00:54:19,121
it's estimated to bring $369 million

1243
00:54:19,121 --> 00:54:21,121
over 20 years.

1244
00:54:22,121 --> 00:54:24,121
new earnings are projected to be

1245
00:54:24,121 --> 00:54:26,610
$106 million over the same period

1246
00:54:26,610 --> 00:54:28,610
supporting 308 full-time equivalencies.

1247
00:54:30,610 --> 00:54:33,610
the instruction impact entails more than

1248
00:54:33,610 --> 00:54:36,610
$11 million and from local materials

1249
00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:39,610
spent as well as the $11 million in

1250
00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:41,610
spending from earnings as well as 70

1251
00:54:41,610 --> 00:54:43,610
construction jobs.

1252
00:54:43,610 --> 00:54:45,610
as we all know, there is much more work

1253
00:54:45,610 --> 00:54:47,610
to be done if we're going to bring this

1254
00:54:47,610 --> 00:54:49,610
vision to reality.

1255
00:54:49,610 --> 00:54:52,610
we're requesting the opportunity to work

1256
00:54:52,610 --> 00:54:56,610
with staff to quickly define the details

1257
00:54:56,610 --> 00:54:58,610
and agreement including operations,

1258
00:54:58,610 --> 00:55:01,661
lease development, financing for both my

1259
00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:04,610
board and for to you review.

1260
00:55:04,610 --> 00:55:07,610
before closing, if I might take one more

1261
00:55:07,610 --> 00:55:10,610
minute, I want to express my extreme

1262
00:55:10,610 --> 00:55:13,610
gratitude to the county staff.

1263
00:55:14,610 --> 00:55:16,461
they've been extremely responsive.

1264
00:55:17,610 --> 00:55:20,610
weave he done a lot of work in a short

1265
00:55:20,610 --> 00:55:24,861
period of time to this to this point.

1266
00:55:25,610 --> 00:55:28,100
I want to thank my board who invested to

1267
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:31,100
bring williams on to provide you with

1268
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:34,601
this concept and option. Also wendy

1269
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:40,100
gehrig here from my board and worked

1270
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:43,100
tirelessly as well as our vice chairman

1271
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:46,100
heather hilton is also in the audience.

1272
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:48,100
even though jack patten is out of town

1273
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:53,100
today, he did a lot of work in a third

1274
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,100
of the amount of time they're used to

1275
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:56,100
working on this.

1276
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,100
I truly believe this will be a

1277
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,100
remarkable addition to placer county.

1278
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,100
thank you for the opportunity.

1279
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:05,100
>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

1280
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,100
>> I could conclude my remarks.

1281
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:14,100
thank you.

1282
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:15,100
>> supervisor weygandt: are there any

1283
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:18,100
questions or comments by board members?

1284
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:19,100
kirk.

1285
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,100
>> supervisor uhler: as we discuss

1286
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,100
facilities, knowing that our placer

1287
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:28,941
county clerk registrar of voters also a

1288
00:56:28,941 --> 00:56:30,941
member of the fair board and he's

1289
00:56:30,941 --> 00:56:33,941
looking for a warehouse, think we could

1290
00:56:33,941 --> 00:56:36,341
sneak one on here?

1291
00:56:37,941 --> 00:56:41,541
no, it's close to his house.

1292
00:56:43,941 --> 00:56:46,941
I -- I had the chance to meet with david

1293
00:56:46,941 --> 00:56:50,941
and wendy and I want to thank wendy for

1294
00:56:50,941 --> 00:56:53,941
her help in facilitating a number of

1295
00:56:53,941 --> 00:56:54,941
conversations.

1296
00:56:54,941 --> 00:56:57,941
as the former fair board member myself,

1297
00:56:57,941 --> 00:57:00,941
my attitude about this has long been

1298
00:57:00,941 --> 00:57:04,941
let's either be all in or all out.

1299
00:57:04,941 --> 00:57:07,941
liked this limp ago long that we've been

1300
00:57:07,941 --> 00:57:10,941
doing -- limping along that we've been

1301
00:57:10,941 --> 00:57:11,941
doing.

1302
00:57:11,941 --> 00:57:13,941
I had thoughts about a different

1303
00:57:13,941 --> 00:57:15,941
location, but with a partner like this

1304
00:57:15,941 --> 00:57:17,941
that is willing to come forward and

1305
00:57:17,941 --> 00:57:21,541
invest a significant amount of capital

1306
00:57:23,941 --> 00:57:27,881
in ungrading that facility in terms of

1307
00:57:27,881 --> 00:57:30,881
working with the neighbors to reduce the

1308
00:57:30,881 --> 00:57:33,881
impacts, primarily of the racing, maybe

1309
00:57:33,881 --> 00:57:38,681
fewer races but those races that we have

1310
00:57:38,881 --> 00:57:41,881
being of a grander statue.

1311
00:57:41,881 --> 00:57:43,881
I'm -- stature.

1312
00:57:44,881 --> 00:57:47,881
I'm thrill with this opportunity and I

1313
00:57:47,881 --> 00:57:49,881
appreciate not only david bringing this

1314
00:57:49,881 --> 00:57:51,881
forward, but the way the fair

1315
00:57:51,881 --> 00:57:54,281
revitalization committee has embraced

1316
00:57:54,881 --> 00:57:58,881
this idea and is encouraging us to take

1317
00:57:58,881 --> 00:58:01,881
a deeper look at it and the fair board

1318
00:58:01,881 --> 00:58:05,881
itself because as a former member of the

1319
00:58:05,881 --> 00:58:08,881
fair board, we can be territorial about

1320
00:58:08,881 --> 00:58:09,881
our fairgrounds.

1321
00:58:09,881 --> 00:58:14,681
yet, I think and I don't pretend to

1322
00:58:15,881 --> 00:58:17,881
speak for the president of the fair

1323
00:58:17,881 --> 00:58:18,881
board right now, but I think they

1324
00:58:18,881 --> 00:58:21,881
realize this is a great opportunity to

1325
00:58:21,881 --> 00:58:23,881
keep the fair going in a location that

1326
00:58:23,881 --> 00:58:26,821
is central within the county and we know

1327
00:58:26,821 --> 00:58:30,821
that with the ancillary uses going on

1328
00:58:30,821 --> 00:58:32,821
throughout the year provide that stable

1329
00:58:32,821 --> 00:58:35,821
platform for the fair to be able to

1330
00:58:35,821 --> 00:58:38,821
continue in perpetuity in this location.

1331
00:58:38,821 --> 00:58:41,821
I want to say thank you for getting us

1332
00:58:41,821 --> 00:58:42,821
to this point.

1333
00:58:42,821 --> 00:58:47,210
>> I echo the words of supervisor uhler.

1334
00:58:51,821 --> 00:58:53,821
the fairgrounds has been challenging

1335
00:58:53,821 --> 00:58:55,821
since I came on to the board of

1336
00:58:55,821 --> 00:58:57,821
supervisors in 2010.

1337
00:58:57,821 --> 00:59:00,221
or actually beginning of 2011.

1338
00:59:00,821 --> 00:59:03,821
I think we've done quite a bit of work

1339
00:59:03,821 --> 00:59:06,821
to alleviate a lot of the noise

1340
00:59:06,821 --> 00:59:07,821
concerns.

1341
00:59:07,821 --> 00:59:08,821
I know one of the first things we did in

1342
00:59:08,821 --> 00:59:10,821
2011 was have a forum where we brought

1343
00:59:10,821 --> 00:59:12,821
the neighbors together along with the

1344
00:59:12,821 --> 00:59:15,821
racing folks to kind of talk through

1345
00:59:15,821 --> 00:59:18,821
some of the issues that were happening.

1346
00:59:18,821 --> 00:59:20,821
and moving forward from that, this will

1347
00:59:20,821 --> 00:59:23,821
is a very unique opportunity because it

1348
00:59:23,821 --> 00:59:25,761
comes from the community.

1349
00:59:25,761 --> 00:59:28,761
it's something that all of the folks

1350
00:59:28,761 --> 00:59:30,761
that have been utilizing the fairgrounds

1351
00:59:30,761 --> 00:59:34,961
and have vision for the fairgrounds to

1352
00:59:37,761 --> 00:59:39,761
take it in a different direction.

1353
00:59:39,761 --> 00:59:41,761
it doesn't mean we can't do other things

1354
00:59:41,761 --> 00:59:42,761
outside in different areas.

1355
00:59:42,761 --> 00:59:44,761
but this is the type of opportunity that

1356
00:59:44,761 --> 00:59:47,761
we need to look into and see what that

1357
00:59:47,761 --> 00:59:49,761
potential could be.

1358
00:59:49,761 --> 00:59:50,761
I know that they've scratched the

1359
00:59:50,761 --> 00:59:54,761
surface of what the potential of the

1360
00:59:54,761 --> 00:59:56,761
fairgrounds is.

1361
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,761
and I think with a little bit more work

1362
01:00:03,761 --> 01:00:06,761
in collaboration between the interested

1363
01:00:06,761 --> 01:00:08,761
parties and our community, the groups as

1364
01:00:08,761 --> 01:00:11,761
well as the county and the city and

1365
01:00:11,761 --> 01:00:13,761
players valley tourism and other

1366
01:00:13,761 --> 01:00:15,761
interested parties, it could be

1367
01:00:15,761 --> 01:00:17,761
something that we can all be proud of.

1368
01:00:17,761 --> 01:00:21,761
so I'd be very supportive of taking a

1369
01:00:21,761 --> 01:00:23,761
look at what the possibilities could be.

1370
01:00:23,761 --> 01:00:26,761
>> supervisor montgomery: I want to

1371
01:00:28,761 --> 01:00:31,761
amplify on kirk and jack's comments.

1372
01:00:31,761 --> 01:00:34,761
I think this is a great vision.

1373
01:00:34,761 --> 01:00:38,761
I think we've all struggled with what

1374
01:00:38,761 --> 01:00:40,761
the future of the fairgrounds would like

1375
01:00:40,761 --> 01:00:43,761
and the committee has come up working

1376
01:00:43,761 --> 01:00:46,761
with placer valley tourism with

1377
01:00:46,761 --> 01:00:49,761
something that I think has really

1378
01:00:49,761 --> 01:00:53,361
benefit for everyone in players county

1379
01:00:53,761 --> 01:00:56,761
including the city of roseville.

1380
01:00:56,761 --> 01:00:59,761
we've been working closely with the city

1381
01:00:59,761 --> 01:01:01,761
of roseville and none of this will come

1382
01:01:01,761 --> 01:01:03,761
as a surprise to them.

1383
01:01:03,761 --> 01:01:04,761
>> they have.

1384
01:01:04,761 --> 01:01:06,761
and one of the nice things placer valley

1385
01:01:06,761 --> 01:01:10,761
tourism spent quite a bit of time

1386
01:01:10,761 --> 01:01:14,761
speaking to the different people and ag

1387
01:01:14,761 --> 01:01:15,761
folks.

1388
01:01:15,761 --> 01:01:16,761
>> supervisor montgomery: a second

1389
01:01:16,761 --> 01:01:20,361
clarification, item 2-a-2 on this says

1390
01:01:20,761 --> 01:01:23,761
that we're being asked to authorize the

1391
01:01:23,761 --> 01:01:25,761
director of public works and facilities

1392
01:01:25,761 --> 01:01:28,161
to designate negotiations etc.

1393
01:01:30,701 --> 01:01:34,701
can we clarify that those -- this is to

1394
01:01:34,701 --> 01:01:36,701
enter into negotiations on these

1395
01:01:36,701 --> 01:01:37,701
agreements.

1396
01:01:37,701 --> 01:01:38,701
not enter into actual agreements.

1397
01:01:38,701 --> 01:01:40,701
>> exactly.

1398
01:01:40,701 --> 01:01:42,701
the idea is that we would come back and

1399
01:01:42,701 --> 01:01:45,701
potentially provide you with something.

1400
01:01:45,701 --> 01:01:47,701
>> supervisor montgomery: the language

1401
01:01:47,701 --> 01:01:50,701
wasn't there so I wanted to make sure

1402
01:01:50,701 --> 01:01:52,701
this was not an action that type may

1403
01:01:52,701 --> 01:01:54,701
have more implications than expected.

1404
01:01:54,701 --> 01:01:58,701
I want to apologize, I am dog sitting

1405
01:01:58,701 --> 01:01:59,701
for my inlaws.

1406
01:01:59,701 --> 01:02:02,701
if you hear barking, I apologize, it's

1407
01:02:02,701 --> 01:02:03,701
the dog in my office.

1408
01:02:03,701 --> 01:02:04,701
he's fine!

1409
01:02:04,701 --> 01:02:07,701
>> supervisor weygandt: we're used to

1410
01:02:08,701 --> 01:02:09,701
it.

1411
01:02:09,701 --> 01:02:13,301
maybe we should ask the dog.

1412
01:02:14,701 --> 01:02:15,701
jim.

1413
01:02:15,701 --> 01:02:17,701
>> thank you.

1414
01:02:18,701 --> 01:02:19,701
mark, I want to thank you for your

1415
01:02:19,701 --> 01:02:21,701
leadership on this project.

1416
01:02:21,701 --> 01:02:22,701
this great presentation that you gave

1417
01:02:22,701 --> 01:02:23,701
us.

1418
01:02:23,701 --> 01:02:26,701
I want to thank lisa worthington for her

1419
01:02:26,701 --> 01:02:29,641
leadership and the revitalization board

1420
01:02:29,641 --> 01:02:34,441
and those out there have kept this fair

1421
01:02:34,641 --> 01:02:36,641
going through the years.

1422
01:02:36,641 --> 01:02:39,641
thank you, greg. And I appreciate

1423
01:02:39,641 --> 01:02:43,241
mr. Mcnally and mr. Attaway bringing

1424
01:02:43,641 --> 01:02:44,641
this presentation to me.

1425
01:02:44,641 --> 01:02:45,641
I'm excited about it.

1426
01:02:45,641 --> 01:02:48,641
it's going to put placer county fair on

1427
01:02:48,641 --> 01:02:52,641
the map plus an event center and be a

1428
01:02:52,641 --> 01:02:55,641
great amenity to roseville too.

1429
01:02:55,641 --> 01:02:56,641
let's move forward.

1430
01:02:56,641 --> 01:02:59,641
>> we're asking the public --

1431
01:03:01,641 --> 01:03:02,641
>> I know that.

1432
01:03:02,641 --> 01:03:06,641
>> is there any comment from the public

1433
01:03:06,641 --> 01:03:08,641
or questions?

1434
01:03:08,641 --> 01:03:11,641
>> good morning chairman weygandt and

1435
01:03:12,641 --> 01:03:15,641
supervisors I'm david henry, the current

1436
01:03:15,641 --> 01:03:17,641
president of the placer county fair

1437
01:03:17,641 --> 01:03:18,641
association.

1438
01:03:18,641 --> 01:03:21,641
I've been through mr. Attaway's

1439
01:03:21,641 --> 01:03:23,641
presentation twice once with the

1440
01:03:23,641 --> 01:03:26,641
committee and once with the board last

1441
01:03:26,641 --> 01:03:27,641
month.

1442
01:03:27,641 --> 01:03:28,581
first I want to thank him for his

1443
01:03:28,581 --> 01:03:29,581
presentation.

1444
01:03:29,581 --> 01:03:31,981
it was very excellent.

1445
01:03:33,581 --> 01:03:34,581
excellent design.

1446
01:03:34,581 --> 01:03:36,581
I think it's perfectly designed for the

1447
01:03:36,581 --> 01:03:37,581
fair.

1448
01:03:37,581 --> 01:03:39,581
it's a shot in the arm the fair needs to

1449
01:03:39,581 --> 01:03:42,581
continue to exist in the current

1450
01:03:42,581 --> 01:03:43,581
location.

1451
01:03:43,581 --> 01:03:46,581
I want to thank mark and the county

1452
01:03:46,581 --> 01:03:47,581
staff.

1453
01:03:47,581 --> 01:03:48,581
they worked with us in the

1454
01:03:48,581 --> 01:03:50,581
revitalization committee for the last

1455
01:03:50,581 --> 01:03:51,581
couple of years.

1456
01:03:51,581 --> 01:03:55,581
he's been to I don't know how many

1457
01:03:55,581 --> 01:03:57,581
committee meetings and we've had city

1458
01:03:57,581 --> 01:03:58,581
staff from roseville there.

1459
01:03:58,581 --> 01:04:02,181
they're well aware of the issues.

1460
01:04:03,581 --> 01:04:07,581
I know you've hay tough decision ahead

1461
01:04:07,581 --> 01:04:09,581
of you of whether to address the

1462
01:04:09,581 --> 01:04:10,581
infrastructure issues with the

1463
01:04:10,581 --> 01:04:13,581
fairgrounds, electrical, sewer, it seems

1464
01:04:15,581 --> 01:04:19,781
daily we come up with another challenge.

1465
01:04:21,581 --> 01:04:24,581
I think this would be a catalyst for not

1466
01:04:24,581 --> 01:04:26,581
only the fairgrounds but for the

1467
01:04:26,581 --> 01:04:29,521
community and calendar and county itself

1468
01:04:29,521 --> 01:04:32,521
to see it go forward with negotiations

1469
01:04:32,521 --> 01:04:34,521
through the county staff.

1470
01:04:34,521 --> 01:04:39,321
I want to thank both mr. -- supervisor

1471
01:04:39,521 --> 01:04:41,521
uhler and duran for their support.

1472
01:04:41,521 --> 01:04:44,521
I know kirk is out there every year

1473
01:04:44,521 --> 01:04:47,521
helping to judge the pageants and I hope

1474
01:04:47,521 --> 01:04:48,521
to see him in the future doing it.

1475
01:04:48,521 --> 01:04:52,521
I hope to see you all out there, our

1476
01:04:52,521 --> 01:04:53,521
80th fair next year.

1477
01:04:53,521 --> 01:04:57,521
I urge you to support the item on the

1478
01:04:57,521 --> 01:04:58,521
agenda today.

1479
01:04:58,521 --> 01:04:59,521
thank you.

1480
01:04:59,521 --> 01:05:01,521
>> supervisor weygandt: anyone else

1481
01:05:01,521 --> 01:05:02,521
want to address the item?

1482
01:05:02,521 --> 01:05:04,521
>> good morning.

1483
01:05:07,521 --> 01:05:08,521
I'm rick lawrence.

1484
01:05:08,521 --> 01:05:11,521
I'm a resident of roseville.

1485
01:05:11,521 --> 01:05:16,321
born and raised in placer county, I'm a

1486
01:05:16,521 --> 01:05:19,521
fifth generation placer county resident.

1487
01:05:19,521 --> 01:05:22,521
I didn't know a lot of what was going on

1488
01:05:22,521 --> 01:05:25,521
with the fairgrounds until two weeks ago

1489
01:05:25,521 --> 01:05:29,121
when I met with mr. Macnally.

1490
01:05:29,461 --> 01:05:33,461
I left roseville in 1989 and went in the

1491
01:05:33,461 --> 01:05:34,461
military.

1492
01:05:34,461 --> 01:05:35,461
I returned home in 2004.

1493
01:05:35,461 --> 01:05:38,461
traveled all over the country, lived in

1494
01:05:38,461 --> 01:05:40,461
different towns and states.

1495
01:05:40,461 --> 01:05:42,461
there was never a sense of community

1496
01:05:42,461 --> 01:05:44,461
like I felt in placer county.

1497
01:05:44,461 --> 01:05:48,461
that's why when I got out of military I

1498
01:05:48,461 --> 01:05:50,461
decided to move home to placer county.

1499
01:05:50,461 --> 01:05:53,461
I purchased a home on grove street.

1500
01:05:53,461 --> 01:05:55,461
one of the biggest reasons for that is

1501
01:05:55,461 --> 01:05:57,461
because it was near the fairgrounds.

1502
01:05:57,461 --> 01:05:59,461
fairgrounds and my family goes back

1503
01:05:59,461 --> 01:06:01,461
several generations.

1504
01:06:01,461 --> 01:06:03,461
some of my best memories as a child were

1505
01:06:03,461 --> 01:06:05,461
at the fairgrounds.

1506
01:06:06,461 --> 01:06:08,461
I was almost born at the racetrack.

1507
01:06:08,461 --> 01:06:10,461
really I was.

1508
01:06:10,461 --> 01:06:13,461
my mom went into labor as my mom was

1509
01:06:13,461 --> 01:06:14,461
watching the races.

1510
01:06:14,461 --> 01:06:17,461
I want to support what you guys are

1511
01:06:17,461 --> 01:06:18,461
doing for the fairgrounds.

1512
01:06:18,461 --> 01:06:20,461
it sounds like there are a lot of people

1513
01:06:20,461 --> 01:06:21,461
on board to make the fairgrounds a

1514
01:06:21,461 --> 01:06:22,461
better place.

1515
01:06:22,461 --> 01:06:25,461
not only for my children, and their

1516
01:06:25,461 --> 01:06:28,401
children and future generations but for

1517
01:06:28,401 --> 01:06:30,401
the community of placer county.

1518
01:06:30,401 --> 01:06:32,401
thank you very much for the work you're

1519
01:06:32,401 --> 01:06:33,401
putting into this.

1520
01:06:33,401 --> 01:06:35,401
I would encourage to you leave it where

1521
01:06:35,401 --> 01:06:36,401
it's at.

1522
01:06:36,401 --> 01:06:38,401
>> good morning.

1523
01:06:46,401 --> 01:06:48,401
I'm michael eman.

1524
01:06:49,401 --> 01:06:50,401
I'm the director of the roseville

1525
01:06:50,401 --> 01:06:52,401
community preschool.

1526
01:06:53,401 --> 01:06:56,401
I'm here today not only behalf of the

1527
01:06:56,401 --> 01:06:57,401
current students but the thousands of

1528
01:06:57,401 --> 01:06:59,401
students and parents that have passed

1529
01:06:59,401 --> 01:07:01,401
through our doors during the course of

1530
01:07:01,401 --> 01:07:03,401
the last 60 years that we've been in

1531
01:07:03,401 --> 01:07:05,801
operation on the fairgrounds.

1532
01:07:06,401 --> 01:07:08,401
we're happy to see that the current

1533
01:07:08,401 --> 01:07:10,401
master plan would allow for our

1534
01:07:10,401 --> 01:07:14,401
continued operation, by our, I mean our

1535
01:07:14,401 --> 01:07:16,801
school and sister school.

1536
01:07:18,401 --> 01:07:20,401
roseville community school.

1537
01:07:20,401 --> 01:07:23,401
as long-term tenants on the fairgrounds,

1538
01:07:23,401 --> 01:07:27,401
we support pbt's efforts and we hope the

1539
01:07:27,401 --> 01:07:30,341
board will move forward with discussing

1540
01:07:30,341 --> 01:07:35,741
with pbt the plan that is going to be

1541
01:07:36,341 --> 01:07:37,341
considered.

1542
01:07:37,341 --> 01:07:39,341
the school I'm referring to is the life

1543
01:07:39,341 --> 01:07:40,341
work of bev boss my mother and mentor

1544
01:07:40,341 --> 01:07:43,941
who passed away this last february.

1545
01:07:48,341 --> 01:07:50,341
as a school, we want to carry on her he

1546
01:07:50,341 --> 01:07:53,341
legacy and work with pbt in doing so.

1547
01:07:53,341 --> 01:07:54,341
thank you very much.

1548
01:07:54,341 --> 01:07:56,741
>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

1549
01:07:58,341 --> 01:07:59,341
next speaker, please.

1550
01:07:59,341 --> 01:08:01,341
>> good morning supervisors.

1551
01:08:08,341 --> 01:08:11,941
my name is kim delgado hoskinson.

1552
01:08:12,341 --> 01:08:14,341
I've been a business owner in roseville

1553
01:08:14,341 --> 01:08:15,341
for 33 years.

1554
01:08:15,341 --> 01:08:20,141
and over my tenure, I was reflecting on

1555
01:08:21,341 --> 01:08:24,941
how many events I've been to'

1556
01:08:25,341 --> 01:08:28,281
fairgrounds which have been everything

1557
01:08:28,281 --> 01:08:31,281
from pageants to sports to a lot of

1558
01:08:31,281 --> 01:08:32,281
racing especially when I lived a couple

1559
01:08:32,281 --> 01:08:34,281
of blocks away.

1560
01:08:34,281 --> 01:08:36,681
and to the fairs.

1561
01:08:37,281 --> 01:08:42,281
and I am so glad this is coming forward.

1562
01:08:42,281 --> 01:08:46,281
this is the shot in -- shot in the arm

1563
01:08:46,281 --> 01:08:47,281
that the fairgrounds needed.

1564
01:08:47,281 --> 01:08:49,281
because some of the buildings are not

1565
01:08:49,281 --> 01:08:51,281
being utilized like they have been in

1566
01:08:51,281 --> 01:08:56,810
the past because of the wear and tear

1567
01:08:56,281 --> 01:08:57,281
that has been on them.

1568
01:08:57,281 --> 01:09:01,281
with this moving forward and some help

1569
01:09:01,281 --> 01:09:03,281
along the way, I think a lot of the

1570
01:09:03,281 --> 01:09:06,281
events that we had with the chamber,

1571
01:09:06,281 --> 01:09:09,281
with the different organizations will

1572
01:09:09,281 --> 01:09:11,281
come back to the fairgrounds and it will

1573
01:09:11,281 --> 01:09:13,281
be utilized more.

1574
01:09:13,281 --> 01:09:15,281
and once again, we get to keep our fair.

1575
01:09:15,281 --> 01:09:17,281
I think this is just great.

1576
01:09:17,281 --> 01:09:18,281
thank you.

1577
01:09:18,281 --> 01:09:21,881
>> please come forward and state your

1578
01:09:23,281 --> 01:09:24,281
name.

1579
01:09:24,281 --> 01:09:27,281
>> good morning I'm john [inaudible]

1580
01:09:35,221 --> 01:09:37,221
I'm the producer of berry-fest.

1581
01:09:37,221 --> 01:09:40,221
I live on baseline road.

1582
01:09:40,221 --> 01:09:41,221
I'm also the general manager and

1583
01:09:41,221 --> 01:09:45,221
promotor of dire world scare park which

1584
01:09:45,221 --> 01:09:47,221
is open until october 31st at the

1585
01:09:47,221 --> 01:09:48,221
fairgrounds.

1586
01:09:48,221 --> 01:09:50,221
I am in support of the program that

1587
01:09:50,221 --> 01:09:54,421
david and the county is looking at.

1588
01:09:55,221 --> 01:09:56,221
I had the opportunity to meet with

1589
01:09:56,221 --> 01:09:57,221
david.

1590
01:09:57,221 --> 01:09:59,221
I was grateful he looked at festival

1591
01:09:59,221 --> 01:10:02,221
input while planning this and thank you

1592
01:10:02,221 --> 01:10:03,221
for that.

1593
01:10:03,221 --> 01:10:07,221
I want you to know I support this great

1594
01:10:07,221 --> 01:10:08,221
idea.

1595
01:10:08,221 --> 01:10:10,221
I assume that is asphalt in the parking

1596
01:10:10,221 --> 01:10:11,221
lot.

1597
01:10:11,221 --> 01:10:13,221
it wasn't mentioned verbally.

1598
01:10:13,221 --> 01:10:14,221
but I hope --

1599
01:10:14,221 --> 01:10:16,221
>> thank you.

1600
01:10:16,221 --> 01:10:17,221
anyone else?

1601
01:10:17,221 --> 01:10:20,221
>> good morning I'm lisa worthington,

1602
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:26,221
I'm a member and chair of the

1603
01:10:26,221 --> 01:10:28,221
fairgrounds revitalization committee.

1604
01:10:29,221 --> 01:10:32,221
like supervisor uhler said, we were also

1605
01:10:32,221 --> 01:10:35,221
all in as a committee.

1606
01:10:35,221 --> 01:10:38,221
we worked for 19 meetings tirelessly

1607
01:10:39,221 --> 01:10:40,221
meeting without compensation.

1608
01:10:40,221 --> 01:10:43,221
you appointed a very diverse and

1609
01:10:43,221 --> 01:10:46,221
interested group of folks county

1610
01:10:46,221 --> 01:10:49,821
residents that came from all aspects,

1611
01:10:50,221 --> 01:10:53,221
walks of life but we were automatic

1612
01:10:53,221 --> 01:10:55,221
equally committed to this mission and

1613
01:10:55,221 --> 01:10:56,221
vision.

1614
01:10:56,221 --> 01:10:58,221
the partnership with placer valley

1615
01:10:58,221 --> 01:11:00,221
tourism changed everything for us.

1616
01:11:00,221 --> 01:11:04,221
we did go through a storming and norming

1617
01:11:04,221 --> 01:11:06,221
phase which is normal.

1618
01:11:06,221 --> 01:11:08,221
we appreciate that you gave us an

1619
01:11:08,221 --> 01:11:10,221
extended period of time as you did this

1620
01:11:10,221 --> 01:11:14,221
summer to continue to work through that

1621
01:11:14,221 --> 01:11:18,221
in ordered to for the county to present

1622
01:11:18,221 --> 01:11:20,221
the most appropriate vision and

1623
01:11:20,221 --> 01:11:22,221
alternative to remain on site and

1624
01:11:22,221 --> 01:11:23,221
revitalize.

1625
01:11:23,221 --> 01:11:25,221
the values of placer county are

1626
01:11:25,221 --> 01:11:27,221
well-represented here.

1627
01:11:28,161 --> 01:11:30,161
I am one of the members that live

1628
01:11:30,161 --> 01:11:33,161
outside of a 10-minute drive to this

1629
01:11:33,161 --> 01:11:34,161
location.

1630
01:11:34,161 --> 01:11:38,361
I did informally think to myself does

1631
01:11:39,161 --> 01:11:41,161
this represent a place I want to go with

1632
01:11:41,161 --> 01:11:42,161
my family?

1633
01:11:42,161 --> 01:11:43,161
it definitely does.

1634
01:11:43,161 --> 01:11:45,161
there are aspects of opportunity here

1635
01:11:45,161 --> 01:11:49,361
that are unique to placer county that

1636
01:11:50,161 --> 01:11:53,161
can be built on, specifically the

1637
01:11:53,161 --> 01:11:55,561
agricultural educational center and

1638
01:11:56,161 --> 01:11:59,161
culinary center as well as the corporate

1639
01:11:59,161 --> 01:12:00,161
events that could bring in funds and

1640
01:12:00,161 --> 01:12:03,161
also represent community and civic

1641
01:12:03,161 --> 01:12:04,161
needs.

1642
01:12:04,161 --> 01:12:06,161
meetings for boy scouts and other civic

1643
01:12:06,161 --> 01:12:08,161
organizations or special events that

1644
01:12:08,161 --> 01:12:11,161
families might need meeting space for in

1645
01:12:11,161 --> 01:12:14,761
addition to the sports indoor complex,

1646
01:12:15,161 --> 01:12:16,161
tourism drive.

1647
01:12:16,161 --> 01:12:20,961
we are very pleased as a committee that

1648
01:12:21,161 --> 01:12:24,161
you will support this vision or

1649
01:12:24,161 --> 01:12:26,161
hopefully you'll support this as we

1650
01:12:26,161 --> 01:12:28,101
unanimously do.

1651
01:12:28,101 --> 01:12:30,101
thank you for appointing us and giving

1652
01:12:30,101 --> 01:12:33,101
us the opportunity to help drive this

1653
01:12:33,101 --> 01:12:34,101
forward.

1654
01:12:34,101 --> 01:12:35,101
>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

1655
01:12:35,101 --> 01:12:36,101
anyone else?

1656
01:12:36,101 --> 01:12:40,301
>> I'm the vice chair of the community

1657
01:12:43,101 --> 01:12:44,101
and animal barns superintendent.

1658
01:12:44,101 --> 01:12:48,901
so I'm looking forward to a new small

1659
01:12:49,101 --> 01:12:50,101
animal barn.

1660
01:12:50,101 --> 01:12:52,101
I spent 20 years in that old one out

1661
01:12:52,101 --> 01:12:53,101
there.

1662
01:12:53,101 --> 01:12:56,101
I look forward as you to continue the

1663
01:12:56,101 --> 01:12:58,501
recommend to go forward.

1664
01:12:59,101 --> 01:13:02,101
>> good morning, I'm terry grage.

1665
01:13:08,101 --> 01:13:11,701
I'm a community leader from 4-h.

1666
01:13:12,101 --> 01:13:15,701
I'm here representing the 4-h'rs in

1667
01:13:16,101 --> 01:13:18,101
players county many of whom when they

1668
01:13:18,101 --> 01:13:21,101
found out this, they wanted to be here

1669
01:13:21,101 --> 01:13:23,101
but considering their school needs, they

1670
01:13:23,101 --> 01:13:24,101
couldn't.

1671
01:13:24,101 --> 01:13:26,101
the 4-h youth are excited.

1672
01:13:26,101 --> 01:13:29,410
on I separate note, I work for the

1673
01:13:29,410 --> 01:13:31,410
agricultural aircraft association.

1674
01:13:31,410 --> 01:13:33,410
I'm involved in the ag industry and I'm

1675
01:13:33,410 --> 01:13:35,410
so excited that this particular vision

1676
01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:38,410
would expand our agricultural per taj

1677
01:13:38,410 --> 01:13:39,410
here.

1678
01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:41,410
fairs have been challenged not --

1679
01:13:41,410 --> 01:13:43,410
through the reception, all the fairs

1680
01:13:43,410 --> 01:13:46,410
across the state are challenged and

1681
01:13:46,410 --> 01:13:47,410
changing the concept of the fair and

1682
01:13:47,410 --> 01:13:50,410
making it an event center I think is

1683
01:13:50,410 --> 01:13:52,410
really going to be a very beneficial

1684
01:13:52,410 --> 01:13:54,410
driver for the entire county and for our

1685
01:13:54,410 --> 01:13:55,410
youth.

1686
01:13:55,410 --> 01:13:58,410
so I really encourage you to give this

1687
01:13:58,410 --> 01:13:59,410
full consideration.

1688
01:13:59,410 --> 01:14:00,410
sounds like you have it, but there you

1689
01:14:00,410 --> 01:14:01,410
go.

1690
01:14:01,410 --> 01:14:02,410
thank you.

1691
01:14:02,410 --> 01:14:03,410
>> anyone else?

1692
01:14:03,410 --> 01:14:05,441
>> good morning, I'm travis.

1693
01:14:11,410 --> 01:14:14,410
I reside in roseville california.

1694
01:14:17,410 --> 01:14:19,410
I wasn't privy to this, but I heard, if

1695
01:14:19,410 --> 01:14:22,410
you build it, they will come.

1696
01:14:22,410 --> 01:14:25,410
you could be placer's only mini

1697
01:14:25,410 --> 01:14:26,410
disneyland.

1698
01:14:26,410 --> 01:14:29,981
going back to the youth, what I heard is

1699
01:14:29,981 --> 01:14:31,981
children are not ready to learn when

1700
01:14:31,981 --> 01:14:32,981
you're ready to teach.

1701
01:14:32,981 --> 01:14:35,981
I grew up in 4-h.

1702
01:14:35,981 --> 01:14:37,981
I didn't know at the time I was learning

1703
01:14:37,981 --> 01:14:39,981
all these things how much is the feed

1704
01:14:39,981 --> 01:14:40,981
cost.

1705
01:14:40,981 --> 01:14:42,981
budgeting, projecting out.

1706
01:14:42,981 --> 01:14:43,981
all this stuff.

1707
01:14:43,981 --> 01:14:46,981
I was absorbing but I didn't know it at

1708
01:14:46,981 --> 01:14:47,981
the time.

1709
01:14:47,981 --> 01:14:48,981
all this was through the fairgrounds.

1710
01:14:48,981 --> 01:14:51,981
it turns out 20 years later I own my own

1711
01:14:51,981 --> 01:14:54,981
business and it was a huge learning

1712
01:14:54,981 --> 01:14:56,981
experience I didn't get through regular

1713
01:14:56,981 --> 01:14:57,981
schooling.

1714
01:14:57,981 --> 01:14:59,981
this was through community projects like

1715
01:14:59,981 --> 01:15:00,981
this.

1716
01:15:00,981 --> 01:15:02,981
you got to keep it.

1717
01:15:02,981 --> 01:15:03,981
thank you.

1718
01:15:03,981 --> 01:15:06,381
>> supervisor weygandt: next speaker,

1719
01:15:08,981 --> 01:15:09,981
please.

1720
01:15:09,981 --> 01:15:12,381
>> hello, I'm dennis johnson.

1721
01:15:13,981 --> 01:15:16,981
I'm currently on the placer county fair

1722
01:15:16,981 --> 01:15:17,981
board.

1723
01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:19,981
I'm currently in my second term.

1724
01:15:19,981 --> 01:15:22,981
I'd like to thank you all of you for

1725
01:15:22,981 --> 01:15:23,981
helping to support the fair and giving

1726
01:15:23,981 --> 01:15:25,981
us an opportunity to continue to run the

1727
01:15:25,981 --> 01:15:26,981
fairgrounds for you.

1728
01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:27,921
mark has been wonderful.

1729
01:15:27,921 --> 01:15:30,921
he's been at all the meetings, our

1730
01:15:30,921 --> 01:15:32,921
relationship with the county I hope is

1731
01:15:32,921 --> 01:15:34,921
greatly improved.

1732
01:15:35,921 --> 01:15:37,921
with we are aware of the economic

1733
01:15:37,921 --> 01:15:40,921
downturn hurt us bad as far as us as a

1734
01:15:40,921 --> 01:15:41,921
fair board.

1735
01:15:41,921 --> 01:15:43,921
I find it absolutely amazing that we

1736
01:15:43,921 --> 01:15:48,721
have managed to do so well even though

1737
01:15:48,921 --> 01:15:50,921
we may not have a profit right now, but

1738
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:52,921
I believe it will by the end of the

1739
01:15:52,921 --> 01:15:53,921
year.

1740
01:15:53,921 --> 01:15:56,921
it's quite amazing how few people have

1741
01:15:56,921 --> 01:15:58,921
stepped up and went to bat for the

1742
01:15:58,921 --> 01:16:00,921
fairgrounds.

1743
01:16:00,921 --> 01:16:05,121
myself as a volunteer, dave henry, it's

1744
01:16:06,921 --> 01:16:09,921
nice to see that will the community has

1745
01:16:09,921 --> 01:16:10,921
come together.

1746
01:16:10,921 --> 01:16:11,921
this opportunity is great.

1747
01:16:11,921 --> 01:16:13,921
I hope it happens.

1748
01:16:13,921 --> 01:16:16,921
if not, we'll still be there to run the

1749
01:16:16,921 --> 01:16:20,521
fair and to provide a fiduciary

1750
01:16:20,921 --> 01:16:21,921
responsibility to you and the community

1751
01:16:21,921 --> 01:16:24,921
to do the best we can.

1752
01:16:24,921 --> 01:16:26,921
thank you again for all your support and

1753
01:16:26,921 --> 01:16:27,861
have a good day.

1754
01:16:27,861 --> 01:16:30,861
>> good morning, I'm sandy brian.

1755
01:16:33,861 --> 01:16:35,861
I'm a business owner in roseville.

1756
01:16:35,861 --> 01:16:38,861
I started producing antique shows for

1757
01:16:38,861 --> 01:16:41,861
the city in 2009 in downtown roseville.

1758
01:16:41,861 --> 01:16:45,461
in 2014 because of the development of

1759
01:16:45,861 --> 01:16:50,661
city, I'm an antique producer and I had

1760
01:16:50,861 --> 01:16:53,861
to move my show from outside when they

1761
01:16:53,861 --> 01:16:57,861
rebuild and through a lot of research

1762
01:16:57,861 --> 01:17:00,861
and time, like mark said, I had to find

1763
01:17:00,861 --> 01:17:01,861
a facility that was large.

1764
01:17:01,861 --> 01:17:04,861
the largest facility in placer county

1765
01:17:04,861 --> 01:17:07,861
within roseville is johns all.

1766
01:17:08,861 --> 01:17:11,861
I've been there since 2014 and my show

1767
01:17:11,861 --> 01:17:14,861
is nationally recognized as one of the

1768
01:17:14,861 --> 01:17:17,861
large -- from coast to coast flea market

1769
01:17:17,861 --> 01:17:19,861
in different magazines.

1770
01:17:19,861 --> 01:17:22,861
I'm a huge advocate for the fairgrounds.

1771
01:17:22,861 --> 01:17:24,861
I produce that show three times a year

1772
01:17:24,861 --> 01:17:28,801
in jones hall because it is the largest

1773
01:17:28,801 --> 01:17:30,801
facility and I want to expand it and go

1774
01:17:30,801 --> 01:17:32,801
bigger but there is constant threat of

1775
01:17:32,801 --> 01:17:36,801
the fairgrounds closing, so I don't want

1776
01:17:36,801 --> 01:17:39,801
to expand knowing I would have to be a

1777
01:17:39,801 --> 01:17:42,801
disservice to my customers and vendors.

1778
01:17:42,801 --> 01:17:44,801
I'm excited about the opportunity that

1779
01:17:44,801 --> 01:17:47,801
you guys are presenting because it is an

1780
01:17:47,801 --> 01:17:49,801
opportunity for me to be able to expand

1781
01:17:49,801 --> 01:17:52,801
my business to create something more

1782
01:17:52,801 --> 01:17:54,801
even larger to the fairgrounds.

1783
01:17:54,801 --> 01:17:56,801
great presentation, mark.

1784
01:17:56,801 --> 01:17:58,801
your staff down at the fairgrounds has

1785
01:17:58,801 --> 01:18:00,801
been awesome and tremendous doing with

1786
01:18:00,801 --> 01:18:01,801
what little they have.

1787
01:18:01,801 --> 01:18:03,801
I want to commend them too because they

1788
01:18:03,801 --> 01:18:07,801
are great partners for me to work with.

1789
01:18:07,801 --> 01:18:08,801
my business is family-owned.

1790
01:18:08,801 --> 01:18:11,801
we've worked together on the streets in

1791
01:18:11,801 --> 01:18:14,801
2009 starting at 3:00 in the morning me

1792
01:18:14,801 --> 01:18:16,801
and my husband and kids and the trailer

1793
01:18:16,801 --> 01:18:18,801
all the way down to the fairgrounds.

1794
01:18:18,801 --> 01:18:20,801
now the kids are in college and it's me

1795
01:18:20,801 --> 01:18:21,801
and my husband.

1796
01:18:21,801 --> 01:18:23,801
high school volunteers.

1797
01:18:24,801 --> 01:18:28,741
any how, I want to thank you for the

1798
01:18:28,741 --> 01:18:30,741
opportunity to speak.

1799
01:18:30,741 --> 01:18:34,741
I congratulate you on keeping it up.

1800
01:18:34,741 --> 01:18:38,341
I'm a resident of loss cerritos.

1801
01:18:38,741 --> 01:18:41,741
I live two blocks from the fairgrounds.

1802
01:18:41,741 --> 01:18:43,741
thank you for bringing this to the

1803
01:18:43,741 --> 01:18:46,741
community that we can be proud of.

1804
01:18:46,741 --> 01:18:47,741
thank you.

1805
01:18:47,741 --> 01:18:49,741
>> I'm debbie anderson.

1806
01:18:51,741 --> 01:18:53,741
I happened on the agenda for this board

1807
01:18:53,741 --> 01:18:54,741
of supervisors and I'm here because of

1808
01:18:54,741 --> 01:18:56,741
this presentation that I didn't know

1809
01:18:56,741 --> 01:18:57,741
what was going to be presented.

1810
01:18:57,741 --> 01:19:01,741
but I am the chairman of the friends of

1811
01:19:01,741 --> 01:19:04,141
nra for roseville rocklin.

1812
01:19:04,741 --> 01:19:06,741
my biggest challenge is finding a

1813
01:19:06,741 --> 01:19:10,741
location, a venue that we can have our

1814
01:19:10,741 --> 01:19:14,741
main event our yearly event in and grow.

1815
01:19:14,741 --> 01:19:17,741
so when I hear this presentation today,

1816
01:19:17,741 --> 01:19:19,741
I am ecstatic.

1817
01:19:20,741 --> 01:19:23,741
I am very, very pro this whole

1818
01:19:23,741 --> 01:19:24,741
presentation.

1819
01:19:24,741 --> 01:19:26,741
and I will through the nra very much

1820
01:19:26,741 --> 01:19:30,941
promote the new buildings and this whole

1821
01:19:31,681 --> 01:19:32,681
deal.

1822
01:19:32,681 --> 01:19:33,681
thank you very much.

1823
01:19:33,681 --> 01:19:34,681
>> supervisor weygandt: there will be

1824
01:19:34,681 --> 01:19:36,681
sponsorship opportunities.

1825
01:19:38,681 --> 01:19:42,681
I think a gun range out there on the

1826
01:19:42,681 --> 01:19:43,681
south side.

1827
01:19:43,681 --> 01:19:46,681
>> good morning supervisors I'm rebecca

1828
01:19:48,681 --> 01:19:51,681
desmond the executive director of the

1829
01:19:51,681 --> 01:19:53,681
fair services authority.

1830
01:19:53,681 --> 01:19:56,681
I'm director of the department of food

1831
01:19:56,681 --> 01:19:58,681
and agriculture.

1832
01:19:58,681 --> 01:20:00,681
I was the director when the funding was

1833
01:20:00,681 --> 01:20:02,681
pulled -- not my fault.

1834
01:20:02,681 --> 01:20:04,681
I have to clarify that.

1835
01:20:04,681 --> 01:20:07,681
we became involved not in this

1836
01:20:07,681 --> 01:20:09,681
particular project but the fairgrounds

1837
01:20:09,681 --> 01:20:11,681
in the county talking about risk

1838
01:20:11,681 --> 01:20:12,681
management issues.

1839
01:20:12,681 --> 01:20:13,681
I come to you today as a resident of

1840
01:20:13,681 --> 01:20:17,881
roseville, a parent of a child who

1841
01:20:18,681 --> 01:20:20,681
participants in the placer county fair.

1842
01:20:20,681 --> 01:20:23,681
just to let you now with my background

1843
01:20:23,681 --> 01:20:26,681
in the industry, a public/private

1844
01:20:26,681 --> 01:20:29,681
partnership like this is the envy of all

1845
01:20:29,681 --> 01:20:30,681
fairgrounds in the state of california.

1846
01:20:30,681 --> 01:20:31,681
it's awesome.

1847
01:20:31,681 --> 01:20:33,681
it's a beautiful plan.

1848
01:20:33,681 --> 01:20:34,681
I think it helps the fair.

1849
01:20:34,681 --> 01:20:37,681
long term tenants like the schools are

1850
01:20:37,681 --> 01:20:39,681
the reason that the fairgrounds is still

1851
01:20:39,681 --> 01:20:41,681
in business and so I would like to see

1852
01:20:41,681 --> 01:20:43,681
them still be included in the whole

1853
01:20:43,681 --> 01:20:44,681
plan.

1854
01:20:44,681 --> 01:20:47,681
as a roseville resident, I think it's a

1855
01:20:47,681 --> 01:20:49,681
wonderful proposal as a fair

1856
01:20:49,681 --> 01:20:51,681
professional, I think it's a better

1857
01:20:51,681 --> 01:20:52,681
proposal.

1858
01:20:52,681 --> 01:20:54,681
and I'm happy to see the county and the

1859
01:20:54,681 --> 01:20:56,681
city and fair association and everybody

1860
01:20:56,681 --> 01:20:58,681
just all getting along and holding

1861
01:20:58,681 --> 01:21:01,681
hands, making this project move forward.

1862
01:21:01,681 --> 01:21:02,681
thank you.

1863
01:21:02,681 --> 01:21:05,681
>> supervisor weygandt: I'll just add

1864
01:21:06,681 --> 01:21:10,681
my comments to my colleagues echo all of

1865
01:21:10,681 --> 01:21:14,681
my colleagues -- come on down, please.

1866
01:21:14,681 --> 01:21:17,681
>> good morning, greg heggward general

1867
01:21:19,681 --> 01:21:22,681
manager of the placer county fair

1868
01:21:22,681 --> 01:21:23,681
association.

1869
01:21:23,681 --> 01:21:29,810
I want to thank all of them with the

1870
01:21:29,621 --> 01:21:30,621
county for all their hard work.

1871
01:21:30,621 --> 01:21:32,621
I think there are a lot of people in

1872
01:21:32,621 --> 01:21:36,621
this room that just -- it's been two

1873
01:21:36,621 --> 01:21:37,621
years now.

1874
01:21:37,621 --> 01:21:38,621
thank you.

1875
01:21:38,621 --> 01:21:40,621
a lot of people in this room that really

1876
01:21:40,621 --> 01:21:42,621
didn't understand what fair operations

1877
01:21:42,621 --> 01:21:43,621
were all about.

1878
01:21:43,621 --> 01:21:45,621
I think now they do.

1879
01:21:45,621 --> 01:21:49,621
we have a lot more support, I have a lot

1880
01:21:49,621 --> 01:21:50,621
more support from the county.

1881
01:21:50,621 --> 01:21:52,621
I want to thank you for that.

1882
01:21:52,621 --> 01:21:54,621
I do want to express that the placer

1883
01:21:54,621 --> 01:21:57,621
county fair association that's been

1884
01:21:57,621 --> 01:22:00,621
there all 80 years is extremely

1885
01:22:00,621 --> 01:22:03,621
interested in continuing on with the

1886
01:22:03,621 --> 01:22:06,210
operations of the fair.

1887
01:22:07,621 --> 01:22:10,621
like rebecca, I'm a fair guy.

1888
01:22:10,621 --> 01:22:12,621
I enjoy the fair.

1889
01:22:12,621 --> 01:22:13,621
I love the fair.

1890
01:22:13,621 --> 01:22:15,621
basically throughout the fair I'm a

1891
01:22:15,621 --> 01:22:16,621
facility management person.

1892
01:22:16,621 --> 01:22:18,621
I take care of all of that stuff.

1893
01:22:18,621 --> 01:22:20,621
with hardly any money.

1894
01:22:20,621 --> 01:22:23,621
this is an incredible opportunity not

1895
01:22:23,621 --> 01:22:25,621
only for the county, but for the fair

1896
01:22:25,621 --> 01:22:28,561
association and tourism and I want to

1897
01:22:28,561 --> 01:22:29,561
thank you all very much.

1898
01:22:29,561 --> 01:22:31,561
>> thank you.

1899
01:22:34,561 --> 01:22:38,561
with that I want to echo a lot of the

1900
01:22:38,561 --> 01:22:40,561
folks that spoke here but I want to

1901
01:22:40,561 --> 01:22:41,561
thank the fair association and

1902
01:22:41,561 --> 01:22:43,561
revitalization committee.

1903
01:22:43,561 --> 01:22:46,561
mark, especially you, tremendous passion

1904
01:22:46,561 --> 01:22:49,561
as we've limped along these years but

1905
01:22:49,561 --> 01:22:51,561
held on to the opportunity as a former

1906
01:22:51,561 --> 01:22:53,561
4-her who used to show my jersey cows

1907
01:22:53,561 --> 01:22:56,561
there, I'm pleased to see that we have

1908
01:22:56,561 --> 01:22:59,561
this great opportunity to hang on to the

1909
01:22:59,561 --> 01:23:02,561
history and embrace what the future

1910
01:23:02,561 --> 01:23:04,561
looks like for these facilities.

1911
01:23:04,561 --> 01:23:05,561
we need a motion.

1912
01:23:05,561 --> 01:23:08,561
>> two quick things that I do want to

1913
01:23:08,561 --> 01:23:09,561
address.

1914
01:23:09,561 --> 01:23:14,361
first of all, to greg's point, I think

1915
01:23:15,561 --> 01:23:18,561
there is an on-going role for the fair

1916
01:23:18,561 --> 01:23:19,561
association.

1917
01:23:19,561 --> 01:23:22,561
I've spoken to david about that.

1918
01:23:22,561 --> 01:23:23,561
tremendous expertise among members of

1919
01:23:23,561 --> 01:23:27,501
the fair board on the particulars of

1920
01:23:27,501 --> 01:23:29,501
what goes into putting on a good fair

1921
01:23:29,501 --> 01:23:32,501
from coordinating with the livestock

1922
01:23:32,501 --> 01:23:34,501
folks to working with the community

1923
01:23:34,501 --> 01:23:37,501
groups to get them out there for -- with

1924
01:23:37,501 --> 01:23:39,501
their food booths and all the rest.

1925
01:23:39,501 --> 01:23:42,501
I think that the fair association itself

1926
01:23:42,501 --> 01:23:44,501
will continue.

1927
01:23:44,501 --> 01:23:49,501
you'll be able to off-load a lot of the

1928
01:23:49,501 --> 01:23:53,501
things that keep you up at night that

1929
01:23:53,501 --> 01:23:55,501
will keep david up from this point

1930
01:23:55,501 --> 01:23:56,501
forward.

1931
01:23:56,501 --> 01:23:58,501
to clarify one quick thing.

1932
01:23:58,501 --> 01:24:02,701
mr. Henry was kind in his remarks,

1933
01:24:03,501 --> 01:24:06,501
however, I do need to clarify while I

1934
01:24:06,501 --> 01:24:11,301
have been an emcee for the miss placer

1935
01:24:15,501 --> 01:24:17,501
county pageant.

1936
01:24:22,501 --> 01:24:25,501
two years ago the fair board did an rfp

1937
01:24:25,501 --> 01:24:27,901
for a pageant producer.

1938
01:24:28,441 --> 01:24:30,441
that contract was awarded to my wife and

1939
01:24:30,441 --> 01:24:32,441
it would be quite the conflict of

1940
01:24:32,441 --> 01:24:34,441
interest for me to serve as a judge for

1941
01:24:34,441 --> 01:24:36,441
my wife's pageant.

1942
01:24:36,441 --> 01:24:39,441
I do serve as the emcee which is an

1943
01:24:39,441 --> 01:24:42,441
obligation that I undertake gladly.

1944
01:24:42,441 --> 01:24:44,441
I wanted to clarify that.

1945
01:24:44,441 --> 01:24:47,441
with that, mr. Chairman, I defer to the

1946
01:24:47,441 --> 01:24:50,441
supervisor the district to make a

1947
01:24:50,441 --> 01:24:51,441
motion.

1948
01:24:51,441 --> 01:24:53,841
>> the motion and seconded.

1949
01:24:57,441 --> 01:25:01,410
all those in favor say aye.

1950
01:25:01,441 --> 01:25:02,441
opposed?

1951
01:25:02,441 --> 01:25:04,441
that carries unanimously.

1952
01:25:04,441 --> 01:25:05,441
thank you all very much.

1953
01:25:05,441 --> 01:25:06,441
[applause]

1954
01:25:06,441 --> 01:25:10,441
we'll now take up our 9:40 timed item

1955
01:25:10,441 --> 01:25:12,441
which is community development resources

1956
01:25:12,441 --> 01:25:15,441
and it is the martis valley west

1957
01:25:15,441 --> 01:25:16,441
specific plan.

1958
01:25:16,441 --> 01:25:19,441
we'll let the dust settle here a little

1959
01:25:19,441 --> 01:25:21,441
bit.

1960
01:25:22,441 --> 01:25:23,441
then you can kick it off.

1961
01:25:23,441 --> 01:25:26,441
>> would all the exciting fair-going

1962
01:26:19,381 --> 01:26:22,381
input having left are the room, there is

1963
01:26:22,381 --> 01:26:23,381
lots of seats for people.

1964
01:26:23,381 --> 01:26:26,381
please feel free to come in and find a

1965
01:26:26,381 --> 01:26:29,381
see the and sit down.

1966
01:26:36,321 --> 01:26:41,121
waiting for a little bit of the hubbub

1967
01:26:41,321 --> 01:26:43,321
to subside.

1968
01:26:50,321 --> 01:26:52,321
please come in and find I see the.

1969
01:26:52,321 --> 01:26:55,321
we'll move to the 9:40 timed item.

1970
01:26:55,321 --> 01:26:57,321
this is the martis valley west specific

1971
01:26:57,321 --> 01:26:59,321
plan.

1972
01:27:16,321 --> 01:27:18,321
we are not yet if he park at granite

1973
01:27:18,321 --> 01:27:19,321
bay.

1974
01:27:19,321 --> 01:27:22,321
we'll moving to the 9:40 item.

1975
01:27:22,321 --> 01:27:25,921
martis valley west par excel fiscal

1976
01:27:31,261 --> 01:27:32,261
plan.

1977
01:27:32,261 --> 01:27:33,261
perfect timing.

1978
01:27:33,261 --> 01:27:35,661
our chairman is back.

1979
01:27:39,261 --> 01:27:41,261
so far, we have everyone seated.

1980
01:27:41,261 --> 01:27:43,261
>> I'll carry on.

1981
01:27:54,261 --> 01:27:57,261
>> good morning chair weygandt and

1982
01:28:00,261 --> 01:28:02,261
fellow supervisors.

1983
01:28:08,261 --> 01:28:12,261
greg and jeremy, do you have any

1984
01:28:12,261 --> 01:28:14,261
presentation?

1985
01:28:21,261 --> 01:28:24,261
it's more exciting with pictures.

1986
01:28:49,201 --> 01:28:51,201
all right.

1987
01:28:51,201 --> 01:28:52,201
I'll start again.

1988
01:28:52,201 --> 01:28:55,801
good morning chair weygandt and fellow

1989
01:28:56,201 --> 01:28:57,201
supervisors.

1990
01:28:57,201 --> 01:29:01,201
I'm stacy with the tahoe city office in

1991
01:29:01,201 --> 01:29:03,201
tahoe city.

1992
01:29:03,201 --> 01:29:07,201
in -- on september 13th, I presented to

1993
01:29:07,201 --> 01:29:10,201
you the martis valley west parcel

1994
01:29:10,201 --> 01:29:11,201
specific plan.

1995
01:29:11,201 --> 01:29:14,201
of which at that hearing, you guys

1996
01:29:14,201 --> 01:29:17,801
considered the project which consists of

1997
01:29:18,201 --> 01:29:20,201
two components.

1998
01:29:20,201 --> 01:29:23,201
there is a west parcel and east parcel

1999
01:29:23,201 --> 01:29:25,201
located off 267.

2000
01:29:25,201 --> 01:29:28,141
which is in between the town of truckee

2001
01:29:28,141 --> 01:29:29,141
and kings beach.

2002
01:29:29,141 --> 01:29:32,741
the project itself consists of the

2003
01:29:33,141 --> 01:29:34,141
transfer of development rights from the

2004
01:29:34,141 --> 01:29:37,141
east parcel to the west parcel.

2005
01:29:37,141 --> 01:29:40,141
the martis valley opportunity plan

2006
01:29:42,141 --> 01:29:44,141
slated for 1,000 units.

2007
01:29:52,141 --> 01:29:55,141
transfer 706 opportunities and take the

2008
01:29:56,141 --> 01:29:59,141
6.6 acres commercial also from the east

2009
01:29:59,141 --> 01:30:02,141
parcel to the west parcel.

2010
01:30:03,140 --> 01:30:06,141
then with that transfer, the east parcel

2011
01:30:06,141 --> 01:30:10,141
would then be conserved in its entirety

2012
01:30:10,141 --> 01:30:14,341
not only the amoeba portion slated for

2013
01:30:15,141 --> 01:30:18,141
development but the 600-acres of the

2014
01:30:18,141 --> 01:30:20,141
east parcel for open space.

2015
01:30:20,141 --> 01:30:22,141
this would either be through a

2016
01:30:22,141 --> 01:30:25,741
conservation easement or purchased by a

2017
01:30:26,141 --> 01:30:27,141
land trust.

2018
01:30:27,141 --> 01:30:29,141
at the september 13th hearing, the

2019
01:30:29,141 --> 01:30:32,141
requested entitlements consisted of a

2020
01:30:34,141 --> 01:30:37,741
plan, amendment for the two components,

2021
01:30:38,141 --> 01:30:42,341
land use diagram for the specific plan

2022
01:30:44,141 --> 01:30:46,141
together with the emergency preparedness

2023
01:30:46,141 --> 01:30:47,141
and the supporting documents of the

2024
01:30:47,141 --> 01:30:50,141
specific plan development standards and

2025
01:30:50,141 --> 01:30:51,141
design guidelines.

2026
01:30:51,141 --> 01:30:54,141
two rezones I spoke of from the west and

2027
01:30:54,141 --> 01:30:56,141
west parcel.

2028
01:30:56,141 --> 01:30:57,141
development agreement and approval of

2029
01:30:57,141 --> 01:31:01,141
the large lot vesting tenant amount for

2030
01:31:01,141 --> 01:31:03,141
the sole purpose of sale, lease and

2031
01:31:03,141 --> 01:31:04,141
finance.

2032
01:31:04,141 --> 01:31:06,141
at the september 13th board hearing, the

2033
01:31:06,141 --> 01:31:09,141
applicants made their presentation of

2034
01:31:09,141 --> 01:31:10,141
which at that time they announced a

2035
01:31:10,141 --> 01:31:13,141
modification to the workforce housing

2036
01:31:13,141 --> 01:31:15,141
proposal.

2037
01:31:15,141 --> 01:31:18,141
at the september 13th hearing, the board

2038
01:31:18,141 --> 01:31:20,541
considered public testimony which

2039
01:31:21,141 --> 01:31:23,141
consisted of folks in favor of the

2040
01:31:23,141 --> 01:31:25,141
project and those that oppose the

2041
01:31:25,141 --> 01:31:26,141
project.

2042
01:31:26,141 --> 01:31:28,141
in summary, the reasons why are listed

2043
01:31:28,141 --> 01:31:30,810
on the slide here.

2044
01:31:30,810 --> 01:31:32,810
the chair of the board at the

2045
01:31:32,810 --> 01:31:34,810
september 13th hearing did close the

2046
01:31:34,810 --> 01:31:36,810
public hearing to further testimony and

2047
01:31:36,810 --> 01:31:38,481
during deliberation considered the

2048
01:31:40,810 --> 01:31:42,810
project and tentatively took action to

2049
01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:45,681
certify the martis valley west specific

2050
01:31:47,810 --> 01:31:49,810
plan e.I.r. And approve the specific

2051
01:31:49,810 --> 01:31:52,810
plan in the associated entitlements.

2052
01:31:52,810 --> 01:31:54,810
the board separately took incentive

2053
01:31:54,810 --> 01:31:57,810
action to approve the martis valley can

2054
01:31:57,810 --> 01:31:59,810
community plan amendment for the

2055
01:31:59,810 --> 01:32:01,481
emergency preparedness and directed

2056
01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:04,810
staff to come back with the required

2057
01:32:04,810 --> 01:32:06,810
resolutions and ordinances for your

2058
01:32:06,810 --> 01:32:09,681
adoption at today, october 11th final

2059
01:32:10,810 --> 01:32:11,810
action.

2060
01:32:11,810 --> 01:32:12,810
as we mentioned, the applicants

2061
01:32:12,810 --> 01:32:14,810
announced at the september 13th meeting

2062
01:32:14,810 --> 01:32:17,810
that he modified their affordable

2063
01:32:17,810 --> 01:32:18,810
housing proposal.

2064
01:32:18,810 --> 01:32:21,810
the original affordable housing proposal

2065
01:32:22,810 --> 01:32:24,810
consisted of two options outlined in the

2066
01:32:24,810 --> 01:32:28,281
original d.a. Either of constructing the

2067
01:32:30,210 --> 01:32:35,210
required on site or pay the in lieu fee.

2068
01:32:35,210 --> 01:32:38,210
they asked that they construct the

2069
01:32:38,210 --> 01:32:41,210
equivalent of 47 ftees so full-time

2070
01:32:43,210 --> 01:32:46,210
employee eye equivalents which is 16

2071
01:32:47,210 --> 01:32:49,210
units and pay for the remaining five

2072
01:32:49,210 --> 01:32:51,210
units in $585,000.

2073
01:32:52,210 --> 01:32:54,210
the applicants will be required to

2074
01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:57,210
provide a housing plan outlining when

2075
01:32:57,210 --> 01:33:00,210
and how the units will be constructed.

2076
01:33:00,210 --> 01:33:02,210
the regional housing contribution of

2077
01:33:02,210 --> 01:33:05,210
$125,000 will continue to remain and

2078
01:33:06,210 --> 01:33:09,210
there were no changes proposed to that.

2079
01:33:09,210 --> 01:33:12,621
all of the modified workforce housing

2080
01:33:13,210 --> 01:33:15,210
proposal is contained with your d.a.

2081
01:33:15,210 --> 01:33:17,210
which is part of your pact.

2082
01:33:17,210 --> 01:33:20,210
and -- packet and staff further supports

2083
01:33:20,210 --> 01:33:22,421
the housing as well.

2084
01:33:23,210 --> 01:33:26,210
senate bill 610 requires that water

2085
01:33:26,210 --> 01:33:28,961
supply assessments be analyzed in the

2086
01:33:28,961 --> 01:33:29,961
e.I.r.

2087
01:33:29,961 --> 01:33:34,761
as -- as such, a water supply assessment

2088
01:33:35,961 --> 01:33:39,561
was prepared by stan tech consulting

2089
01:33:39,961 --> 01:33:41,961
services in 2016.

2090
01:33:41,961 --> 01:33:43,961
it was analyzed to determine if there

2091
01:33:43,961 --> 01:33:45,961
was sufficient water supplies available

2092
01:33:45,961 --> 01:33:46,961
to serve the project.

2093
01:33:46,961 --> 01:33:50,961
as a result, the water supply assessment

2094
01:33:50,961 --> 01:33:54,961
was analyzed within the draft e.I.r. And

2095
01:33:54,961 --> 01:33:56,961
further incorporated into the specific

2096
01:33:56,961 --> 01:33:57,961
plan.

2097
01:33:57,961 --> 01:33:59,961
the water supply assessment as I

2098
01:33:59,961 --> 01:34:02,961
mentioned demonstrated that -- there are

2099
01:34:02,961 --> 01:34:04,961
adequate water resources and to further

2100
01:34:04,961 --> 01:34:07,961
that, that the northstar community

2101
01:34:07,961 --> 01:34:11,561
service district also has the adequate

2102
01:34:11,961 --> 01:34:14,961
water resources to serve the project

2103
01:34:14,961 --> 01:34:17,961
should the project choose or be annexed

2104
01:34:17,961 --> 01:34:19,961
into the northstar community service

2105
01:34:19,961 --> 01:34:23,961
district or it could have wells drilled

2106
01:34:23,961 --> 01:34:26,961
on site which could service the project.

2107
01:34:26,961 --> 01:34:28,901
there are water supply assessment made

2108
01:34:28,901 --> 01:34:30,901
two determine nations -- one determine

2109
01:34:30,901 --> 01:34:33,901
nation that is there is adequate water,

2110
01:34:33,901 --> 01:34:36,901
however, whichever route anything if

2111
01:34:38,901 --> 01:34:41,901
they provide for their own on-site water

2112
01:34:41,901 --> 01:34:44,301
supply or get annexed.

2113
01:34:44,901 --> 01:34:47,901
either will be -- either one will be

2114
01:34:47,901 --> 01:34:49,901
able to service it.

2115
01:34:49,901 --> 01:34:52,901
they ask the board consider the approval

2116
01:34:52,901 --> 01:34:54,901
of the water supply assessment through

2117
01:34:54,901 --> 01:34:56,901
the resolution of the certification of

2118
01:34:56,901 --> 01:34:58,901
the final e.I.r.

2119
01:34:58,901 --> 01:35:02,901
with that, staff is here today as

2120
01:35:02,901 --> 01:35:04,901
directed by the board on september 13th

2121
01:35:04,901 --> 01:35:09,701
to ask that the board take final action

2122
01:35:09,901 --> 01:35:11,901
on the following actions of the martis

2123
01:35:11,901 --> 01:35:14,901
valley west specific plan to adopt the

2124
01:35:14,901 --> 01:35:17,901
resolution to certify the specific

2125
01:35:17,901 --> 01:35:23,301
plan -- the specific plan's e.I.r. With

2126
01:35:23,901 --> 01:35:26,901
the errata and findings considerations

2127
01:35:28,841 --> 01:35:31,241
and adopt the mmrp.

2128
01:35:32,841 --> 01:35:33,841
adopt a resolution to approve the martis

2129
01:35:33,841 --> 01:35:35,841
valley specific plan.

2130
01:35:36,841 --> 01:35:38,841
adopt and ordinance to approve the

2131
01:35:38,841 --> 01:35:39,841
development standards of the specific

2132
01:35:39,841 --> 01:35:40,841
plan.

2133
01:35:40,841 --> 01:35:42,841
adopt a resolution to approve the

2134
01:35:42,841 --> 01:35:45,841
specific's designed guidelines ad adopt

2135
01:35:46,841 --> 01:35:49,841
the resolution to approve the amendment

2136
01:35:49,841 --> 01:35:52,841
to the land use diagram for the specific

2137
01:35:52,841 --> 01:35:55,841
plan and also for the text amendment

2138
01:35:55,841 --> 01:35:57,841
approve a resolution for that for the

2139
01:35:57,841 --> 01:35:58,841
emergency preparedness.

2140
01:35:58,841 --> 01:36:00,841
adopt a resolution to approve the

2141
01:36:00,841 --> 01:36:04,441
remediate rezones of the west parcel

2142
01:36:05,841 --> 01:36:08,841
rand rezones of the east parcel as well.

2143
01:36:08,841 --> 01:36:10,841
adopt an ordinance to approve the

2144
01:36:10,841 --> 01:36:13,841
agreement and approve the large lot

2145
01:36:13,841 --> 01:36:15,841
vesting tentative map.

2146
01:36:15,841 --> 01:36:17,841
with that, that concludes my

2147
01:36:17,841 --> 01:36:19,841
presentation and I'm available should

2148
01:36:19,841 --> 01:36:20,841
you have any questions.

2149
01:36:20,841 --> 01:36:23,841
>> any questions or comments for board

2150
01:36:23,841 --> 01:36:25,841
members at this time?

2151
01:36:25,841 --> 01:36:30,410
so the public hearing has been closed.

2152
01:36:30,781 --> 01:36:35,581
>> I was going to ask that the chair

2153
01:36:39,781 --> 01:36:41,781
while recognizing that the public

2154
01:36:41,781 --> 01:36:44,781
hearing has been closed, that the chair

2155
01:36:44,781 --> 01:36:46,781
take public comments on this item as to

2156
01:36:46,781 --> 01:36:48,781
new items.

2157
01:36:48,781 --> 01:36:49,781
>> supervisor weygandt: that's where I

2158
01:36:49,781 --> 01:36:50,781
was headed.

2159
01:36:50,781 --> 01:36:51,781
the board heard this project on

2160
01:36:51,781 --> 01:36:55,381
september 13th as mentioned and the

2161
01:36:55,781 --> 01:36:57,781
public hearing lasted in excess of five

2162
01:36:57,781 --> 01:36:58,781
hours.

2163
01:36:58,781 --> 01:37:02,381
many requests to not redo that.

2164
01:37:03,781 --> 01:37:05,781
the public hearing will not be reopened.

2165
01:37:05,781 --> 01:37:08,781
however, particularly in light of the

2166
01:37:08,781 --> 01:37:10,781
fact that some folks came down from lake

2167
01:37:10,781 --> 01:37:12,781
tahoe.

2168
01:37:12,781 --> 01:37:15,781
what the chair will entertain is public

2169
01:37:15,781 --> 01:37:16,781
comment.

2170
01:37:16,781 --> 01:37:18,781
but the chair is requesting that those

2171
01:37:18,781 --> 01:37:21,781
comments be new information, or

2172
01:37:21,781 --> 01:37:23,781
information that the board has not yet

2173
01:37:23,781 --> 01:37:27,781
been privy to because we had lengthy

2174
01:37:27,781 --> 01:37:30,721
deliberations and there was a huge

2175
01:37:30,721 --> 01:37:32,721
amount of investment in time and thought

2176
01:37:32,721 --> 01:37:34,721
and the staff were leading up to is

2177
01:37:34,721 --> 01:37:35,721
that.

2178
01:37:35,721 --> 01:37:37,721
if you'd like to make a public comment,

2179
01:37:37,721 --> 01:37:39,721
please come forward and state your name

2180
01:37:39,721 --> 01:37:42,721
for the record and keep your comments

2181
01:37:42,721 --> 01:37:43,721
within three minutes.

2182
01:37:43,721 --> 01:37:46,721
>> good morning. I'm ellie wahler.

2183
01:37:50,721 --> 01:37:51,721
thank you for the opportunity.

2184
01:37:51,721 --> 01:37:53,721
I'd like to bring to your attention that

2185
01:37:53,721 --> 01:37:55,721
no major development, I'm not talking

2186
01:37:55,721 --> 01:37:57,721
about signage, conditional use permits

2187
01:37:57,721 --> 01:38:01,721
and such has been overturned in last 10

2188
01:38:01,721 --> 01:38:03,721
years when a planning commission has

2189
01:38:03,721 --> 01:38:05,721
recommended them.

2190
01:38:05,721 --> 01:38:08,721
the staff report summarizes public

2191
01:38:08,721 --> 01:38:10,721
concerns one of which was the support of

2192
01:38:10,721 --> 01:38:12,721
the conservation easement.

2193
01:38:12,721 --> 01:38:14,721
the development agreement states

2194
01:38:14,721 --> 01:38:17,721
developer represents and warrants that

2195
01:38:17,721 --> 01:38:19,721
it is entered into an option agreement

2196
01:38:19,721 --> 01:38:21,721
with the conservation organization for

2197
01:38:21,721 --> 01:38:23,721
the asset of the east parcel.

2198
01:38:23,721 --> 01:38:27,321
that has changed, so the development

2199
01:38:27,721 --> 01:38:30,661
agreement should be amended to reflect

2200
01:38:30,661 --> 01:38:32,661
the proper information.

2201
01:38:32,661 --> 01:38:35,661
I'll say a couple of other issues in the

2202
01:38:35,661 --> 01:38:37,661
development agreement should be amended

2203
01:38:37,661 --> 01:38:40,610
before you approve it.

2204
01:38:40,661 --> 01:38:43,661
the martis valley west parcel specific

2205
01:38:43,661 --> 01:38:46,661
plan violates the general plan criteria.

2206
01:38:46,661 --> 01:38:48,661
I won't do the definitions much all

2207
01:38:48,661 --> 01:38:51,661
these but your people will look them up

2208
01:38:51,661 --> 01:38:54,610
and public facilities hra-1.

2209
01:38:56,661 --> 01:39:00,861
h-6 fire hazards 8-c-1 and 8-c-3 and

2210
01:39:05,661 --> 01:39:07,661
3-a-7 and 3-a-8.

2211
01:39:09,661 --> 01:39:10,661
I will backup details.

2212
01:39:10,661 --> 01:39:13,661
the development agreement which also

2213
01:39:14,661 --> 01:39:16,661
affects the specific plan approval needs

2214
01:39:16,661 --> 01:39:20,261
to also be updated and corrected.

2215
01:39:20,661 --> 01:39:23,661
so all your process and information is

2216
01:39:23,661 --> 01:39:24,661
correct before you approve it.

2217
01:39:24,661 --> 01:39:28,261
in the development agreement, based on

2218
01:39:29,601 --> 01:39:32,601
the flawed analysis of those things I

2219
01:39:32,601 --> 01:39:35,601
mentioned in the general plan, the

2220
01:39:35,601 --> 01:39:38,100
community hereby 7.2 county findings,

2221
01:39:39,601 --> 01:39:43,601
the county hereby finds the execution of

2222
01:39:43,601 --> 01:39:45,601
agreement is in the best interest of the

2223
01:39:45,601 --> 01:39:48,601
public safety and general welfare

2224
01:39:48,601 --> 01:39:51,601
consistent with the players valley plan

2225
01:39:51,601 --> 01:39:53,601
and martis valley plan.

2226
01:39:53,601 --> 01:39:55,601
extensive comment was supplied.

2227
01:39:55,601 --> 01:39:58,601
I want to thank commissioner nader for

2228
01:39:58,601 --> 01:40:01,601
his extensive information on calfire.

2229
01:40:03,601 --> 01:40:06,601
the development agreement must be

2230
01:40:06,601 --> 01:40:08,601
amended to reflect the workforce housing

2231
01:40:08,601 --> 01:40:09,601
plan.

2232
01:40:09,601 --> 01:40:11,601
the current development agreement that

2233
01:40:11,601 --> 01:40:12,601
is provided to the public on line has

2234
01:40:12,601 --> 01:40:14,601
not been corrected.

2235
01:40:14,601 --> 01:40:16,601
that needs to be amended.

2236
01:40:16,601 --> 01:40:19,601
there is no mention of the secondary

2237
01:40:19,601 --> 01:40:24,401
evacuation route in the d.a. When the

2238
01:40:24,601 --> 01:40:26,601
[inaudible] campground was suspended.

2239
01:40:26,601 --> 01:40:28,601
that needs to be fixed.

2240
01:40:28,601 --> 01:40:29,601
there is a lot of information that needs

2241
01:40:29,601 --> 01:40:31,601
to be reviewed.

2242
01:40:31,601 --> 01:40:33,601
process and documentation must be

2243
01:40:33,601 --> 01:40:34,601
consistent and correct.

2244
01:40:34,601 --> 01:40:37,601
I respectfully request you continue to

2245
01:40:37,601 --> 01:40:39,601
your meeting october 25th.

2246
01:40:39,601 --> 01:40:41,601
I've added some information from the

2247
01:40:41,601 --> 01:40:44,601
national policy analysis of 2008 on

2248
01:40:45,601 --> 01:40:47,601
conservation easements, the good, bad

2249
01:40:47,601 --> 01:40:48,601
and ugly.

2250
01:40:48,601 --> 01:40:51,100
>> supervisor weygandt: any other

2251
01:40:53,601 --> 01:40:54,601
speakers?

2252
01:40:54,601 --> 01:40:56,601
>> good morning.

2253
01:41:03,601 --> 01:41:06,601
I'm a second homeowner up in tahoe.

2254
01:41:06,601 --> 01:41:10,601
I live in santa rosa california and I

2255
01:41:10,601 --> 01:41:14,601
pay placer county taxes and I have

2256
01:41:14,601 --> 01:41:16,601
children in rocklin area.

2257
01:41:16,601 --> 01:41:19,601
my concern is how does the public -- how

2258
01:41:19,601 --> 01:41:22,601
do you listen to the public?

2259
01:41:22,601 --> 01:41:24,601
many people that I have friends that

2260
01:41:24,601 --> 01:41:27,601
have places in tahoe do not even know

2261
01:41:27,601 --> 01:41:28,541
about this.

2262
01:41:28,541 --> 01:41:31,541
so the hearing I was in october, you

2263
01:41:31,541 --> 01:41:35,141
know, a lot of people spoke.

2264
01:41:35,541 --> 01:41:37,541
I feel I'm not sure if you're listening

2265
01:41:37,541 --> 01:41:41,741
to the public versus the money from

2266
01:41:42,541 --> 01:41:43,541
developers.

2267
01:41:43,541 --> 01:41:45,541
my question is how do we make an impact?

2268
01:41:45,541 --> 01:41:47,541
do we do petitions?

2269
01:41:47,541 --> 01:41:51,541
coming from the bay area is, you know,

2270
01:41:51,541 --> 01:41:55,541
we come up to tahoe for relaxation and

2271
01:41:55,541 --> 01:41:57,541
stress-free type of thing.

2272
01:41:57,541 --> 01:41:59,541
the beauty -- I have grandchildren and I

2273
01:41:59,541 --> 01:42:02,541
worry that gee, if they want to come up

2274
01:42:02,541 --> 01:42:06,741
here, it's going to be a boondoggle

2275
01:42:08,541 --> 01:42:10,541
problem driving up to this.

2276
01:42:10,541 --> 01:42:15,341
as bad enough if you drive through you

2277
01:42:15,541 --> 01:42:17,541
want it to be nice up here.

2278
01:42:17,541 --> 01:42:20,541
how do we make an impact this is not the

2279
01:42:20,541 --> 01:42:21,541
right thing do?

2280
01:42:21,541 --> 01:42:23,541
>> state your name.

2281
01:42:26,541 --> 01:42:28,541
>> trish hunstock.

2282
01:42:35,481 --> 01:42:38,481
>> supervisor weygandt: people like us

2283
01:42:39,481 --> 01:42:40,481
are voted to make the decisions.

2284
01:42:40,481 --> 01:42:44,481
we vote our conscience, but the key

2285
01:42:44,481 --> 01:42:47,481
point is we had over five hours of

2286
01:42:47,481 --> 01:42:48,481
public comment.

2287
01:42:48,481 --> 01:42:50,481
they were well-taken.

2288
01:42:50,481 --> 01:42:53,481
the board is going to restrict this

2289
01:42:53,481 --> 01:42:55,481
public comment to new information that

2290
01:42:55,481 --> 01:42:58,481
has not yet been heard.

2291
01:42:58,481 --> 01:42:59,481
thank you for your comments.

2292
01:42:59,481 --> 01:43:03,681
I appreciate it if future speakers would

2293
01:43:05,481 --> 01:43:06,481
accommodate that.

2294
01:43:06,481 --> 01:43:09,481
>> I'm alex aler of preservation.

2295
01:43:10,481 --> 01:43:12,481
I want to say that the findings in the

2296
01:43:12,481 --> 01:43:16,810
staff report are not substantiated by

2297
01:43:16,481 --> 01:43:17,481
facts.

2298
01:43:17,481 --> 01:43:19,481
they're not outweighed by the benefits.

2299
01:43:19,481 --> 01:43:21,481
you made your approval based on the

2300
01:43:21,481 --> 01:43:23,481
project having real meaningful

2301
01:43:23,481 --> 01:43:24,481
conservation.

2302
01:43:24,481 --> 01:43:26,481
this is what brought many of us to the

2303
01:43:26,481 --> 01:43:27,481
table over 10 years ago.

2304
01:43:27,481 --> 01:43:31,810
more recently, the land trust partners

2305
01:43:31,421 --> 01:43:34,421
did submit a letter to the supervisors

2306
01:43:34,421 --> 01:43:35,421
outlining that the project won't have

2307
01:43:35,421 --> 01:43:37,421
meaningful conservation.

2308
01:43:37,421 --> 01:43:39,421
they will not be purchasing the

2309
01:43:39,421 --> 01:43:40,421
property.

2310
01:43:40,421 --> 01:43:41,421
now we're looking at limited

2311
01:43:41,421 --> 01:43:43,421
conservation easement to be held by

2312
01:43:43,421 --> 01:43:45,421
maybe another entity or landowner as is

2313
01:43:45,421 --> 01:43:47,421
today.

2314
01:43:47,421 --> 01:43:48,421
I think that is important.

2315
01:43:48,421 --> 01:43:50,421
I think that changes some things with

2316
01:43:50,421 --> 01:43:52,821
your decision making power.

2317
01:43:53,421 --> 01:43:55,421
also, the number of outlined issues that

2318
01:43:55,421 --> 01:43:57,421
ellie brought up in the development

2319
01:43:57,421 --> 01:43:58,421
agreement.

2320
01:43:58,421 --> 01:44:00,421
but the plan doesn't ensure proper

2321
01:44:00,421 --> 01:44:02,421
analysis for mitigation to address the

2322
01:44:02,421 --> 01:44:04,421
specific plan impact.

2323
01:44:04,421 --> 01:44:06,421
we've continued to state that the e.I.r.

2324
01:44:06,421 --> 01:44:10,421
is also not complying with ceqa and

2325
01:44:10,421 --> 01:44:12,421
threatens the well-being of the

2326
01:44:12,421 --> 01:44:14,421
community in truckee and north lake

2327
01:44:14,421 --> 01:44:16,421
tahoe.

2328
01:44:16,421 --> 01:44:18,421
when I asked to speak this morning, I

2329
01:44:18,421 --> 01:44:21,421
brought up the life safety report

2330
01:44:21,421 --> 01:44:23,821
released on september 25th, 2016.

2331
01:44:25,421 --> 01:44:28,361
sierra watch attached it to the last

2332
01:44:28,361 --> 01:44:29,361
letter we sent you.

2333
01:44:29,361 --> 01:44:31,361
wildfire is still an issue with this

2334
01:44:31,361 --> 01:44:32,361
project.

2335
01:44:32,361 --> 01:44:34,361
we have little assurance on how to

2336
01:44:34,361 --> 01:44:35,361
address wildfire safety.

2337
01:44:35,361 --> 01:44:38,361
the homewood settlement couldn't make a

2338
01:44:38,361 --> 01:44:40,361
finding on non-exacerbating.

2339
01:44:49,361 --> 01:44:51,361
they now need new staff and equipment.

2340
01:44:51,361 --> 01:44:54,361
it would be negligent of the project to

2341
01:44:54,361 --> 01:44:56,361
be approved knowing the lack of

2342
01:44:56,361 --> 01:44:59,361
additional mitigation proposed by the

2343
01:44:59,361 --> 01:45:00,361
project.

2344
01:45:00,361 --> 01:45:03,361
this will probably likely provide a path

2345
01:45:03,361 --> 01:45:05,361
forward to mitigate future development.

2346
01:45:05,361 --> 01:45:08,361
that's an issue we need to deal with

2347
01:45:08,361 --> 01:45:10,361
prior to the project being approved.

2348
01:45:10,361 --> 01:45:12,361
we've continued to outline issues and

2349
01:45:12,361 --> 01:45:13,361
concerns.

2350
01:45:13,361 --> 01:45:15,361
we've demonstrated that in our letters.

2351
01:45:15,361 --> 01:45:19,361
but we do ask you to take these issues

2352
01:45:19,361 --> 01:45:21,361
into account today.

2353
01:45:22,361 --> 01:45:25,361
delay, approval until further analysis

2354
01:45:25,361 --> 01:45:28,961
and feasible mitigation can be applied

2355
01:45:29,301 --> 01:45:31,301
to the project that tips the scales such

2356
01:45:31,301 --> 01:45:35,301
as martis valley west and we continue to

2357
01:45:35,301 --> 01:45:36,301
oppose the project.

2358
01:45:36,301 --> 01:45:37,301
thank you.

2359
01:45:37,301 --> 01:45:38,301
>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

2360
01:45:38,301 --> 01:45:39,301
anyone else?

2361
01:45:39,301 --> 01:45:42,901
>> good morning, I'm nicky ryley, I'm

2362
01:45:44,301 --> 01:45:47,301
development director for mayor stan area

2363
01:45:47,301 --> 01:45:48,301
preservation.

2364
01:45:48,301 --> 01:45:50,301
I know you are in receipt of a letter

2365
01:45:50,301 --> 01:45:53,301
from perry norris highlighting their

2366
01:45:54,301 --> 01:45:56,301
inability to raise money and raise the

2367
01:45:56,301 --> 01:45:58,301
funds and fully move forward as part of

2368
01:45:58,301 --> 01:46:01,301
this proposal would have entailed to

2369
01:46:01,301 --> 01:46:05,301
purchase the land and preserve it in

2370
01:46:05,301 --> 01:46:06,301
conservation which would create the

2371
01:46:06,301 --> 01:46:10,301
benefits of which this proposal is based

2372
01:46:10,301 --> 01:46:13,301
on and the environmental review focused

2373
01:46:13,301 --> 01:46:14,301
as the mitigation.

2374
01:46:14,301 --> 01:46:16,301
this was based on a negotiation years in

2375
01:46:16,301 --> 01:46:18,301
the process.

2376
01:46:19,301 --> 01:46:21,301
six parties at the table during the

2377
01:46:21,301 --> 01:46:23,301
martis valley opportunity agreement and

2378
01:46:23,301 --> 01:46:26,301
work four of these parties are opposed

2379
01:46:26,301 --> 01:46:28,241
or not willing to move forward with the

2380
01:46:28,241 --> 01:46:29,241
project as proposed.

2381
01:46:29,241 --> 01:46:31,241
I think this speaks volumes.

2382
01:46:31,241 --> 01:46:33,241
I think all of you need to consider that

2383
01:46:33,241 --> 01:46:35,241
today as you consider what you're

2384
01:46:35,241 --> 01:46:37,241
looking at and whether or not you're

2385
01:46:37,241 --> 01:46:39,241
making the same proposal or issuing an

2386
01:46:39,241 --> 01:46:41,241
approval as you did in september.

2387
01:46:41,241 --> 01:46:43,241
things are not as you may have once

2388
01:46:43,241 --> 01:46:44,241
thought.

2389
01:46:44,241 --> 01:46:48,241
there is no moving for conservation for

2390
01:46:48,241 --> 01:46:50,241
this deal and no public access

2391
01:46:50,241 --> 01:46:52,241
guaranteed with the approval of the

2392
01:46:52,241 --> 01:46:53,241
prompt.

2393
01:46:53,241 --> 01:46:55,241
the land likely on the east side of 267

2394
01:46:55,241 --> 01:46:57,241
would remain in the hands of sierra

2395
01:46:57,241 --> 01:46:58,241
pacific industries.

2396
01:46:58,241 --> 01:47:01,241
mountain side would be able to develop a

2397
01:47:01,241 --> 01:47:04,241
terrain not suitable for development and

2398
01:47:04,241 --> 01:47:06,241
everyone else including the environment,

2399
01:47:06,241 --> 01:47:09,241
land and people are the losers.

2400
01:47:09,241 --> 01:47:11,241
please reconsider this decision from

2401
01:47:11,241 --> 01:47:12,241
september and support the planning

2402
01:47:12,241 --> 01:47:13,241
commission.

2403
01:47:13,241 --> 01:47:14,241
thank you for your time.

2404
01:47:14,241 --> 01:47:17,241
>> my name is tom morse.

2405
01:47:27,241 --> 01:47:30,841
I'm executive director of sierra match.

2406
01:47:32,181 --> 01:47:35,181
I did bring a copy of the aforementioned

2407
01:47:35,181 --> 01:47:36,181
letter from the land trust.

2408
01:47:36,181 --> 01:47:39,181
if I could hand that to somebody.

2409
01:47:39,181 --> 01:47:42,181
the letter makes it painfully clear

2410
01:47:42,181 --> 01:47:44,181
there is no deal purchase the east side

2411
01:47:44,181 --> 01:47:46,181
at this time.

2412
01:47:46,181 --> 01:47:49,181
I think there are a lot of big picture

2413
01:47:49,181 --> 01:47:50,181
issues that need to be addressed.

2414
01:47:50,181 --> 01:47:53,181
many of which were hammered out by the

2415
01:47:53,181 --> 01:47:55,181
plans commission including impacts on

2416
01:47:55,181 --> 01:47:57,181
traffic and fire safety and impacts on

2417
01:47:57,181 --> 01:47:59,181
lake tahoe whether or not we can agree

2418
01:47:59,181 --> 01:48:01,181
on those, I think we can agree there is

2419
01:48:01,181 --> 01:48:03,181
a lot of new information that's been

2420
01:48:03,181 --> 01:48:05,181
coming fast and furious in the last

2421
01:48:05,181 --> 01:48:08,181
hearing and then this hearing today and

2422
01:48:08,181 --> 01:48:11,781
the common sense and prudence would

2423
01:48:12,181 --> 01:48:15,181
dictate we'd all slowdown and better

2424
01:48:15,181 --> 01:48:17,181
understand the new information and even

2425
01:48:17,181 --> 01:48:19,181
have a better opportunity to come back

2426
01:48:19,181 --> 01:48:21,181
to the table to see if an agreement can

2427
01:48:21,181 --> 01:48:22,181
be worked out.

2428
01:48:22,181 --> 01:48:24,181
my recommendation today is if you

2429
01:48:24,181 --> 01:48:27,181
consider continuing the item so we can

2430
01:48:27,181 --> 01:48:28,121
better understand the project and

2431
01:48:28,121 --> 01:48:30,121
hopefully reach some long term agreement

2432
01:48:30,121 --> 01:48:31,121
on it too.

2433
01:48:31,121 --> 01:48:32,121
thank you.

2434
01:48:32,121 --> 01:48:33,121
>> anyone else?

2435
01:48:33,121 --> 01:48:37,121
is there anyone up in lake tahoe who

2436
01:48:37,121 --> 01:48:39,121
would like to address the board?

2437
01:48:39,121 --> 01:48:43,921
>> I don't know if you can see it.

2438
01:48:47,121 --> 01:48:49,121
I'm jennifer derich.

2439
01:48:52,121 --> 01:48:54,121
>> we have two speakers.

2440
01:48:54,121 --> 01:48:57,121
if people want to speak, I appreciate it

2441
01:48:57,121 --> 01:48:59,121
if you could woman up.

2442
01:48:59,121 --> 01:49:00,121
first we'll hear from the speaker in

2443
01:49:00,121 --> 01:49:02,121
lake tahoe with new information.

2444
01:49:02,121 --> 01:49:04,121
>> good morning.

2445
01:49:05,121 --> 01:49:08,721
sue daniels north lake tahoe resident.

2446
01:49:09,121 --> 01:49:12,121
I'm happy to speak to you as a board.

2447
01:49:12,121 --> 01:49:14,121
thank you so much for considering what

2448
01:49:14,121 --> 01:49:16,121
you are doing for your people in the

2449
01:49:16,121 --> 01:49:18,121
county.

2450
01:49:18,121 --> 01:49:20,121
this is something that you said you're

2451
01:49:20,121 --> 01:49:23,121
taking to your conscience and voting on.

2452
01:49:23,121 --> 01:49:26,121
thank goodness we have humans and not

2453
01:49:26,121 --> 01:49:28,610
computers making decisions.

2454
01:49:28,610 --> 01:49:31,661
so, on the affordable housing component,

2455
01:49:33,610 --> 01:49:35,610
I don't think that the mitigation

2456
01:49:35,610 --> 01:49:36,610
allowing $100,000 per mitigated unit

2457
01:49:36,610 --> 01:49:39,610
would build anything substantial for

2458
01:49:41,610 --> 01:49:43,610
anyone to live in.

2459
01:49:43,610 --> 01:49:48,610
that is to me a -- a new point that I

2460
01:49:48,610 --> 01:49:50,610
would say you should consider.

2461
01:49:50,610 --> 01:49:52,610
it's not adequate.

2462
01:49:53,610 --> 01:49:55,610
and I would like you to please list

2463
01:49:55,610 --> 01:49:57,610
tonight people, again, you represent the

2464
01:49:57,610 --> 01:50:00,610
people's wishes and not the statistics

2465
01:50:00,610 --> 01:50:03,610
that a computer could decide on.

2466
01:50:03,610 --> 01:50:04,610
thank you very much.

2467
01:50:04,610 --> 01:50:08,261
>> my name is jennifer derich and I'm

2468
01:50:16,610 --> 01:50:18,610
here today about this project and the

2469
01:50:18,610 --> 01:50:20,610
project to follow.

2470
01:50:20,610 --> 01:50:22,610
I don't think there would be so much

2471
01:50:22,610 --> 01:50:25,610
opposition to what is going on with this

2472
01:50:25,610 --> 01:50:27,610
board of supervisors if there weren't so

2473
01:50:27,610 --> 01:50:30,610
many projects being fast tracked.

2474
01:50:30,610 --> 01:50:33,610
I got back from denver yesterday.

2475
01:50:33,610 --> 01:50:35,610
and their community has actually filed

2476
01:50:35,610 --> 01:50:37,461
injunctions, moratorium against rezones

2477
01:50:40,610 --> 01:50:43,610
against any type of use permit because

2478
01:50:43,610 --> 01:50:45,610
they felt that things were getting out

2479
01:50:45,610 --> 01:50:46,610
of control.

2480
01:50:46,610 --> 01:50:49,610
there are 16 projects in the pipeline.

2481
01:50:49,610 --> 01:50:53,610
they are being almost offered as a fire

2482
01:50:53,610 --> 01:50:54,610
sale.

2483
01:50:54,610 --> 01:50:57,610
that is opening the door to anyone who

2484
01:50:57,610 --> 01:51:02,610
is wanting to grab a piece of the pie.

2485
01:51:02,610 --> 01:51:05,610
and I think that if this goes forward,

2486
01:51:05,610 --> 01:51:08,610
the people who are concerned about our

2487
01:51:08,610 --> 01:51:11,610
concerns falling on deaf ears should

2488
01:51:11,610 --> 01:51:13,610
consider opening up an investigation as

2489
01:51:13,610 --> 01:51:16,610
to who is benefiting from this project

2490
01:51:16,610 --> 01:51:18,610
being approved over the objections of

2491
01:51:18,610 --> 01:51:19,610
the planning commission.

2492
01:51:19,610 --> 01:51:21,610
>> any other speakers?

2493
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:34,100
make your comments specific to new

2494
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:35,100
information.

2495
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:37,100
>> absolutely.

2496
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:40,100
I'm friends of the north american river

2497
01:51:40,100 --> 01:51:43,100
group, my name is michael.

2498
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:45,100
I want to address the east parcel

2499
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:47,100
conservation proposal.

2500
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:49,100
I believe that any land trusts or

2501
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:51,100
conservancy that gets involved in

2502
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:54,100
purchasing for fee or donated easement

2503
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:57,100
conservation easement in any way, I

2504
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:59,100
believe they cannot do that because of

2505
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:02,100
the internal revenue code section 178

2506
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:06,100
that defines the conservation purpose of

2507
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:08,401
these kinds of transactions.

2508
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:13,201
170-h does not permit the destruction of

2509
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:18,100
conservation value on one property for

2510
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:20,100
the purpose of protecting another

2511
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:21,100
parcel.

2512
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:24,100
it's problematic, especially for an

2513
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:26,100
accredited land trust to do that.

2514
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:29,941
if spi expects to get some value out of

2515
01:52:29,941 --> 01:52:34,141
this -- they have the same 170-h

2516
01:52:34,941 --> 01:52:35,941
obstacle.

2517
01:52:35,941 --> 01:52:39,941
second, the plan itself has a very

2518
01:52:39,941 --> 01:52:41,941
bizarre and unusual planning process

2519
01:52:41,941 --> 01:52:43,941
built into it.

2520
01:52:44,941 --> 01:52:46,941
even the development agreement has a

2521
01:52:46,941 --> 01:52:50,941
role, a key role for the county exec.

2522
01:52:50,941 --> 01:52:53,941
the specific plan has a strong county

2523
01:52:53,941 --> 01:52:54,941
exec role.

2524
01:52:54,941 --> 01:52:57,941
so different from the normal planning

2525
01:52:57,941 --> 01:52:59,941
process that it creates an island sort

2526
01:52:59,941 --> 01:53:01,941
of special planning process proceeders.

2527
01:53:01,941 --> 01:53:05,941
I hate to see the county vulcanized into

2528
01:53:05,941 --> 01:53:08,941
the different mechanisms that depart

2529
01:53:08,941 --> 01:53:10,941
from the normal way and I think you

2530
01:53:10,941 --> 01:53:13,941
should be relooking at that and seeing

2531
01:53:13,941 --> 01:53:16,941
what kind of a potential problem you're

2532
01:53:16,941 --> 01:53:17,941
creating for consistency in planning

2533
01:53:17,941 --> 01:53:19,941
around the county.

2534
01:53:19,941 --> 01:53:20,941
thank you.

2535
01:53:20,941 --> 01:53:23,941
>> supervisor weygandt: are there any

2536
01:53:23,941 --> 01:53:25,941
other speakers?

2537
01:53:25,941 --> 01:53:26,941
>> yes.

2538
01:53:26,941 --> 01:53:29,341
>> supervisor weygandt: state your

2539
01:53:31,881 --> 01:53:32,881
name for the record.

2540
01:53:32,881 --> 01:53:36,881
>> mila borhany on the bay in placer

2541
01:53:36,881 --> 01:53:37,881
county.

2542
01:53:37,881 --> 01:53:40,281
I'm a year-round resident.

2543
01:53:42,881 --> 01:53:44,881
good morning supervisor montgomery and

2544
01:53:44,881 --> 01:53:47,281
fellow supervisors and chairman.

2545
01:53:48,881 --> 01:53:50,881
I was unable to attend the

2546
01:53:50,881 --> 01:53:52,881
september 13th meeting as I was out of

2547
01:53:52,881 --> 01:53:55,881
town with family and extremely

2548
01:53:55,881 --> 01:53:57,881
disappointed to hear of your tentative

2549
01:53:57,881 --> 01:53:59,881
vote of approval at the time especially

2550
01:53:59,881 --> 01:54:02,281
given the planning commissions

2551
01:54:02,881 --> 01:54:04,881
recommendation that you deny the project

2552
01:54:04,881 --> 01:54:08,881
for the many obvious flaws in the e.I.r.

2553
01:54:08,881 --> 01:54:11,881
and or aspects including affordable

2554
01:54:11,881 --> 01:54:12,881
housing.

2555
01:54:12,881 --> 01:54:14,881
at this point, to reiterate what a

2556
01:54:14,881 --> 01:54:15,881
previous speaker mentioned, I have a

2557
01:54:15,881 --> 01:54:18,881
right as a citizen to say it that your

2558
01:54:18,881 --> 01:54:21,881
process and documentation must be done

2559
01:54:21,881 --> 01:54:23,881
correctly, everything -- everything

2560
01:54:23,881 --> 01:54:26,881
about this project and the other big

2561
01:54:26,881 --> 01:54:29,821
projects in the pipeline that the

2562
01:54:29,821 --> 01:54:31,821
previous speaker mentioned, the 16

2563
01:54:31,821 --> 01:54:34,821
projects has been way too fast-tracked

2564
01:54:34,821 --> 01:54:37,821
and it does not feel to quote your words

2565
01:54:37,821 --> 01:54:40,821
back to you, chairman weygandt, that the

2566
01:54:40,821 --> 01:54:43,821
conscience of the people of this part of

2567
01:54:43,821 --> 01:54:46,821
this county that will you are honoring

2568
01:54:46,821 --> 01:54:48,821
that or respecting it.

2569
01:54:48,821 --> 01:54:50,821
our will has been made clear in our

2570
01:54:50,821 --> 01:54:53,821
countless numerous public comments and

2571
01:54:53,821 --> 01:54:55,821
letters and showing up at your meetings

2572
01:54:55,821 --> 01:54:58,821
and yet our will of the public is being

2573
01:54:58,821 --> 01:55:01,821
ignored by our representatives who are

2574
01:55:01,821 --> 01:55:04,821
you and if this is a public process and

2575
01:55:04,821 --> 01:55:06,821
this is a democracy, you should be

2576
01:55:06,821 --> 01:55:10,821
honoring what we express and yet our

2577
01:55:10,821 --> 01:55:12,821
will has been expressly ignored.

2578
01:55:12,821 --> 01:55:15,821
that is an incredibly painful

2579
01:55:15,821 --> 01:55:17,821
heartbreaking concern for me.

2580
01:55:17,821 --> 01:55:19,821
you need to listen to the public an not

2581
01:55:19,821 --> 01:55:20,821
the developer.

2582
01:55:20,821 --> 01:55:22,821
the board of supervisors are

2583
01:55:22,821 --> 01:55:24,821
representative.

2584
01:55:24,821 --> 01:55:26,821
not the representative of the money you

2585
01:55:26,821 --> 01:55:29,821
see sparkling behind your eyeballs.

2586
01:55:30,761 --> 01:55:32,761
there is the land trust being able to

2587
01:55:32,761 --> 01:55:35,161
purchase this trade off-land.

2588
01:55:35,761 --> 01:55:38,761
if that's -- off the table is changes

2589
01:55:38,761 --> 01:55:41,761
your projects so I beg respectfully you

2590
01:55:41,761 --> 01:55:43,761
table this and reopen the public

2591
01:55:43,761 --> 01:55:45,761
comments and the whole process but that

2592
01:55:45,761 --> 01:55:47,761
you certainly don't have a vote today on

2593
01:55:47,761 --> 01:55:49,761
this given new information that the

2594
01:55:49,761 --> 01:55:51,761
public by our legal right has not yet

2595
01:55:51,761 --> 01:55:54,761
had an opportunity to significantly and

2596
01:55:54,761 --> 01:55:56,761
in the right timeframe comment upon.

2597
01:55:56,761 --> 01:55:58,761
the other issue that is huge and has not

2598
01:55:58,761 --> 01:56:00,761
been addressed is the fact that our

2599
01:56:00,761 --> 01:56:02,761
ability to coming in and out of the

2600
01:56:02,761 --> 01:56:06,361
county on 267 or 89 and over 267 will

2601
01:56:07,761 --> 01:56:09,761
never handle the traffic this project

2602
01:56:09,761 --> 01:56:10,761
will bring in.

2603
01:56:10,761 --> 01:56:13,761
you ignored that in your conscience of

2604
01:56:13,761 --> 01:56:15,761
voting to approve this project

2605
01:56:15,761 --> 01:56:17,761
tentatively on the 13th.

2606
01:56:17,761 --> 01:56:21,361
hopefully your conscience will now work

2607
01:56:21,761 --> 01:56:23,761
better and guide you to realize that the

2608
01:56:23,761 --> 01:56:27,701
citizens of this county have told you

2609
01:56:27,701 --> 01:56:29,701
they do -- they do not want this

2610
01:56:29,701 --> 01:56:30,701
project.

2611
01:56:30,701 --> 01:56:32,701
you need to honor what we've asked.

2612
01:56:32,701 --> 01:56:35,701
the final thing that has been said --

2613
01:56:35,701 --> 01:56:38,101
>> supervisor weygandt: I'm sorry,

2614
01:56:38,701 --> 01:56:40,701
your three minutes are up.

2615
01:56:40,701 --> 01:56:43,701
>> the proclamation has been proposed

2616
01:56:43,701 --> 01:56:46,701
and further analysis is necessary.

2617
01:56:46,701 --> 01:56:50,701
thank you for remembering to honor the

2618
01:56:50,701 --> 01:56:51,701
will of the people that you represent.

2619
01:56:51,701 --> 01:56:53,701
>> supervisor weygandt: with that, I'm

2620
01:56:53,701 --> 01:56:55,701
going to close public comment.

2621
01:56:55,701 --> 01:56:56,701
bring it back to the board for any

2622
01:56:56,701 --> 01:56:59,701
further questions or comments or

2623
01:56:59,701 --> 01:57:00,701
dialogue and a vote.

2624
01:57:00,701 --> 01:57:02,701
one thing I want to throw out first is

2625
01:57:02,701 --> 01:57:06,901
that I've been in on going conversations

2626
01:57:08,701 --> 01:57:09,701
with the trust for public lands.

2627
01:57:09,701 --> 01:57:11,701
it's my understanding as I sit here that

2628
01:57:11,701 --> 01:57:14,701
they have not backed out of a

2629
01:57:14,701 --> 01:57:16,701
willingness to try to complete a

2630
01:57:16,701 --> 01:57:17,701
conservation deal.

2631
01:57:17,701 --> 01:57:20,701
they are still willing do that.

2632
01:57:20,701 --> 01:57:22,701
but it will require that the parties

2633
01:57:22,701 --> 01:57:26,301
come together and work out whatever

2634
01:57:27,641 --> 01:57:31,841
issues may still be unworked out among

2635
01:57:32,641 --> 01:57:33,641
all of them.

2636
01:57:33,641 --> 01:57:36,641
if that can happen, I would agree that

2637
01:57:36,641 --> 01:57:39,641
the conservation will result in a much

2638
01:57:39,641 --> 01:57:43,241
greater value amenity to the community.

2639
01:57:43,641 --> 01:57:48,641
if that can't be done, it will be a sad

2640
01:57:48,641 --> 01:57:49,641
circumstance for all of us because we'll

2641
01:57:49,641 --> 01:57:53,241
not have realized our fullest potential.

2642
01:57:53,641 --> 01:57:56,641
I would admonish those parties to try to

2643
01:57:56,641 --> 01:57:57,641
sit down and get together and do

2644
01:57:57,641 --> 01:57:59,641
everything they can to resolve that.

2645
01:57:59,641 --> 01:58:01,641
either way, there will be conservation,

2646
01:58:01,641 --> 01:58:02,641
but the quality of it is going to be

2647
01:58:02,641 --> 01:58:06,641
better if it can go into private

2648
01:58:06,641 --> 01:58:08,641
ownership that has been discussed as it

2649
01:58:08,641 --> 01:58:11,641
relates to the communication we've in

2650
01:58:11,641 --> 01:58:13,641
from the trust for public lands and

2651
01:58:13,641 --> 01:58:14,641
truckee land trust.

2652
01:58:14,641 --> 01:58:16,641
with that, jennifer.

2653
01:58:16,641 --> 01:58:17,641
>> supervisor montgomery: I wanted to

2654
01:58:17,641 --> 01:58:21,641
take the time to thank everyone that

2655
01:58:21,641 --> 01:58:23,641
came down from tahoe particularly today

2656
01:58:23,641 --> 01:58:27,241
to raise comments questions and concerns

2657
01:58:27,581 --> 01:58:30,581
in response to the first woman who

2658
01:58:30,581 --> 01:58:34,581
spoke, I think she left, but I do

2659
01:58:34,581 --> 01:58:35,581
believe it is our responsibility to

2660
01:58:35,581 --> 01:58:37,581
listen to our constituents and by

2661
01:58:37,581 --> 01:58:40,581
constituents, I mean not just in the

2662
01:58:40,581 --> 01:58:42,581
district I represent but throughout

2663
01:58:42,581 --> 01:58:43,581
placer county.

2664
01:58:43,581 --> 01:58:47,581
I will tell you that this project is on

2665
01:58:47,581 --> 01:58:50,581
a lot of people's radar, not just in the

2666
01:58:50,581 --> 01:58:52,581
fifth district but in other districts.

2667
01:58:52,581 --> 01:58:56,781
and I have taken very seriously their

2668
01:58:58,581 --> 01:59:00,581
concerns, and comments and input

2669
01:59:00,581 --> 01:59:01,581
throughout this process.

2670
01:59:01,581 --> 01:59:04,581
today I remain very skeptical that we're

2671
01:59:04,581 --> 01:59:06,581
going to achieve the conservation that

2672
01:59:06,581 --> 01:59:08,581
we all hoped for as part of this

2673
01:59:08,581 --> 01:59:10,581
project.

2674
01:59:10,581 --> 01:59:15,381
I've said and I'll say it again, the

2675
01:59:15,581 --> 01:59:19,581
only reason I was engaging in the

2676
01:59:19,581 --> 01:59:21,581
conversation of the units is because of

2677
01:59:21,581 --> 01:59:23,581
the conservation we hoped to achieve.

2678
01:59:23,581 --> 01:59:26,581
while I think chairman weygandt is

2679
01:59:26,581 --> 01:59:28,521
correct that the truckee donor land

2680
01:59:28,521 --> 01:59:30,521
trust and trust for public lands are

2681
01:59:30,521 --> 01:59:32,521
going to continue to try to engage in

2682
01:59:32,521 --> 01:59:34,921
conversations with mountain side

2683
01:59:35,521 --> 01:59:39,121
partners, their letter does say pretty

2684
01:59:40,521 --> 01:59:43,521
clearly, despite this notable and

2685
01:59:44,521 --> 01:59:46,521
reduction, it's not feasible to raise

2686
01:59:46,521 --> 01:59:49,521
the amount of funding while a project is

2687
01:59:49,521 --> 01:59:51,521
embroiled in controversy.

2688
01:59:53,521 --> 01:59:56,521
our organization also not be engaged in

2689
01:59:56,521 --> 02:00:00,121
this effort until they've reached a

2690
02:00:00,521 --> 02:00:02,521
settlement.

2691
02:00:02,521 --> 02:00:05,521
given these considerations we'll not be

2692
02:00:05,521 --> 02:00:06,521
signing the amendment.

2693
02:00:06,521 --> 02:00:08,521
that doesn't make me hopeful that we're

2694
02:00:08,521 --> 02:00:12,121
going to get meaningful and achievable

2695
02:00:14,521 --> 02:00:15,521
conservation out of this.

2696
02:00:15,521 --> 02:00:18,520
I will be in opposition to this project.

2697
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,521
>> I wanted to clarify there was a

2698
02:00:22,521 --> 02:00:25,521
comment that was interpreted as the fact

2699
02:00:25,521 --> 02:00:27,521
that they had withdrawn and they were no

2700
02:00:27,521 --> 02:00:30,521
longer willing to have the conversation

2701
02:00:30,521 --> 02:00:33,521
and that's contrary to my understands.

2702
02:00:33,521 --> 02:00:35,521
any other questions or comments?

2703
02:00:35,521 --> 02:00:39,121
or the pleasure of the board?

2704
02:00:40,521 --> 02:00:41,521
>> supervisor uhler: am I

2705
02:00:41,521 --> 02:00:43,521
misunderstanding something in terms of

2706
02:00:43,521 --> 02:00:45,521
the requirement that the 6300-acres on

2707
02:00:45,521 --> 02:00:49,721
the east side be placed or a

2708
02:00:50,521 --> 02:00:53,521
conservation easement placed over it?

2709
02:00:53,521 --> 02:00:56,521
I'll ask planning staff or somebody.

2710
02:00:56,521 --> 02:00:57,521
is that not a condition?

2711
02:00:57,521 --> 02:00:59,521
>> that is correct.

2712
02:00:59,521 --> 02:01:01,521
it is part of the d.a., development

2713
02:01:01,521 --> 02:01:04,521
agreement section 3.11 that -- that

2714
02:01:09,521 --> 02:01:11,521
should the land trust not be able to

2715
02:01:11,521 --> 02:01:13,521
purchase the property, it would go the

2716
02:01:13,521 --> 02:01:17,521
entire 36 plus hundred acres would be in

2717
02:01:17,521 --> 02:01:18,521
permanent conversation.

2718
02:01:18,521 --> 02:01:21,521
>> regardless of whether it's owned --

2719
02:01:21,521 --> 02:01:23,521
permanent conservation.

2720
02:01:23,521 --> 02:01:25,521
>> correct.

2721
02:01:27,521 --> 02:01:28,461
>> supervisor uhler: okay.

2722
02:01:28,461 --> 02:01:29,461
>> supervisor montgomery: is that

2723
02:01:29,461 --> 02:01:30,461
public access?

2724
02:01:30,461 --> 02:01:32,461
>> it would not be public access through

2725
02:01:32,461 --> 02:01:34,461
the conservation easement.

2726
02:01:34,461 --> 02:01:36,861
>> supervisor montgomery: thank you.

2727
02:01:37,461 --> 02:01:40,461
>> if the parties could get together,

2728
02:01:40,461 --> 02:01:43,461
and find scale and scope of the project

2729
02:01:43,461 --> 02:01:45,461
that will is acceptable noting that

2730
02:01:45,461 --> 02:01:47,461
there is going tab a commitment by all

2731
02:01:47,461 --> 02:01:50,461
of them to consider that, the quality of

2732
02:01:50,461 --> 02:01:53,461
conservation and the kinds of amenities

2733
02:01:53,461 --> 02:01:56,461
that occurred at waddell ranch where

2734
02:01:56,461 --> 02:01:59,461
there is public access, trail

2735
02:01:59,461 --> 02:02:01,461
maintenance and public notice, fondness

2736
02:02:01,461 --> 02:02:03,461
and use by all the developments around

2737
02:02:03,461 --> 02:02:05,461
it, we're going to have a higher level

2738
02:02:05,461 --> 02:02:07,461
of quality in our community if those

2739
02:02:07,461 --> 02:02:10,461
parties can get together and shake hands

2740
02:02:10,461 --> 02:02:11,461
on something.

2741
02:02:11,461 --> 02:02:13,461
>> one follow-up question.

2742
02:02:17,461 --> 02:02:21,610
today on the 6300 acres, there any

2743
02:02:21,461 --> 02:02:22,461
public access requirement?

2744
02:02:22,461 --> 02:02:24,461
>> no there is not.

2745
02:02:24,461 --> 02:02:25,461
>> supervisor uhler: interest is there

2746
02:02:25,461 --> 02:02:28,401
extensive public utilization of the

2747
02:02:28,401 --> 02:02:29,401
parcel?

2748
02:02:29,401 --> 02:02:30,401
>> yes.

2749
02:02:30,401 --> 02:02:31,401
>> supervisor uhler: is there any

2750
02:02:31,401 --> 02:02:34,401
indication that the historic public

2751
02:02:34,401 --> 02:02:37,401
access to the public has enjoyed on the

2752
02:02:37,401 --> 02:02:40,401
6300-acres is intending to be terminated

2753
02:02:40,401 --> 02:02:42,401
by the property owner with this

2754
02:02:42,401 --> 02:02:44,401
conservation easement?

2755
02:02:45,401 --> 02:02:48,401
>> I do not believe so.

2756
02:02:49,401 --> 02:02:51,401
but if you'd like to ask --

2757
02:02:51,401 --> 02:02:52,401
>> supervisor uhler: while it's been

2758
02:02:52,401 --> 02:02:54,401
in their private hands, they have

2759
02:02:54,401 --> 02:02:57,401
allowed public access the entire time.

2760
02:02:57,401 --> 02:03:01,100
so past practice would seemingly --

2761
02:03:01,401 --> 02:03:04,401
common sense would indicate if they're

2762
02:03:04,401 --> 02:03:05,401
putting conservation easement over it

2763
02:03:05,401 --> 02:03:08,401
anyway, they wouldn't take steps further

2764
02:03:08,401 --> 02:03:10,401
than to somehow for some reason limit

2765
02:03:10,401 --> 02:03:12,401
public access while they've allowed it

2766
02:03:12,401 --> 02:03:13,401
historically.

2767
02:03:13,401 --> 02:03:15,401
>> that's my understanding.

2768
02:03:15,401 --> 02:03:17,401
>> thank you.

2769
02:03:17,401 --> 02:03:19,401
>> mr. Chairman I would begin to make

2770
02:03:19,401 --> 02:03:23,401
the motions that council makes in order

2771
02:03:23,401 --> 02:03:25,401
for us to move this project on.

2772
02:03:25,401 --> 02:03:27,401
I will begin by moving that we adopt

2773
02:03:27,401 --> 02:03:31,100
resolution to certify the martis valley

2774
02:03:31,341 --> 02:03:33,341
west plan.

2775
02:03:34,341 --> 02:03:38,341
errata as well as adopt the findings and

2776
02:03:38,341 --> 02:03:41,341
fact -- doesn't the mitigation

2777
02:03:45,341 --> 02:03:46,341
monitoring reporting program.

2778
02:03:46,341 --> 02:03:48,741
>> supervisor weygandt: it's been

2779
02:03:50,341 --> 02:03:52,341
moved and seconded regarding the

2780
02:03:52,341 --> 02:03:53,341
resolution.

2781
02:03:53,341 --> 02:03:56,341
all those in favor say aye.

2782
02:03:56,341 --> 02:03:58,341
>> opposed?

2783
02:03:58,341 --> 02:03:59,341
>> no.

2784
02:03:59,341 --> 02:04:02,941
>> I move the adoption martis valley

2785
02:04:04,341 --> 02:04:05,341
west specific plan.

2786
02:04:05,341 --> 02:04:07,341
>> a second?

2787
02:04:08,341 --> 02:04:09,341
moved and seconded.

2788
02:04:09,341 --> 02:04:11,341
resolution regarding the martis valley

2789
02:04:11,341 --> 02:04:12,341
west specific plan.

2790
02:04:12,341 --> 02:04:16,541
all those in favor say aye. Opposed?

2791
02:04:17,341 --> 02:04:18,341
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2792
02:04:18,341 --> 02:04:21,341
>> approve the martis valley west

2793
02:04:21,341 --> 02:04:23,341
specific plan standards.

2794
02:04:23,341 --> 02:04:25,341
>> moved and seconded, all those in

2795
02:04:25,341 --> 02:04:27,741
favor say aye. Opposed?

2796
02:04:31,281 --> 02:04:32,281
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2797
02:04:32,281 --> 02:04:35,281
>> I move the parcel specific plan

2798
02:04:35,281 --> 02:04:36,281
guidelines.

2799
02:04:36,281 --> 02:04:37,281
>> supervisor weygandt: moved and

2800
02:04:37,281 --> 02:04:40,281
seconded. All those in favor say aye.

2801
02:04:40,281 --> 02:04:41,281
opposed?

2802
02:04:41,281 --> 02:04:42,281
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2803
02:04:42,281 --> 02:04:46,481
>> I move to amendment used diagram to

2804
02:04:47,281 --> 02:04:50,281
incorporate martis valley west specific

2805
02:04:50,281 --> 02:04:52,281
plan land use designation.

2806
02:04:52,281 --> 02:04:54,281
>> supervisor weygandt: moved and

2807
02:04:54,281 --> 02:04:55,281
seconded.

2808
02:04:55,281 --> 02:04:58,281
moved and seconded all those in favor?

2809
02:04:58,281 --> 02:05:00,281
opposed.

2810
02:05:00,281 --> 02:05:01,281
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2811
02:05:01,281 --> 02:05:05,481
>> I move resolution to amend 6-j and

2812
02:05:07,281 --> 02:05:10,281
6-j-1 and 2 related to emergency

2813
02:05:10,281 --> 02:05:12,281
preparedness.

2814
02:05:12,281 --> 02:05:13,281
>> supervisor weygandt: all those in

2815
02:05:13,281 --> 02:05:15,681
favor say aye. Opposed?

2816
02:05:17,281 --> 02:05:18,281
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2817
02:05:18,281 --> 02:05:22,481
>> I move to the rezone of 662-acres

2818
02:05:23,281 --> 02:05:26,281
from west parcel to svlpsp.

2819
02:05:30,221 --> 02:05:34,221
>> all those in favor say aye. Opposed?

2820
02:05:34,221 --> 02:05:35,221
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2821
02:05:35,221 --> 02:05:36,221
>> I move the adoption of the ordinance

2822
02:05:36,221 --> 02:05:39,821
to rezone the remaining acreage from

2823
02:05:41,221 --> 02:05:46,210
west to psp and rezone of 670-acres of

2824
02:05:46,221 --> 02:05:51,621
the east parcel from rs to c-1 to tpz.

2825
02:05:54,221 --> 02:05:57,221
>> supervisor weygandt: all those in

2826
02:05:58,221 --> 02:06:00,621
favor say aye. Opposed?

2827
02:06:01,221 --> 02:06:02,221
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2828
02:06:02,221 --> 02:06:05,221
>> I move to approve the development

2829
02:06:05,221 --> 02:06:07,221
agreement to the martis valley west

2830
02:06:07,221 --> 02:06:08,221
specific plan.

2831
02:06:08,221 --> 02:06:09,221
>> supervisor weygandt: moved and

2832
02:06:09,221 --> 02:06:12,221
seconded. All in favor say aye.

2833
02:06:12,221 --> 02:06:13,221
opposed.

2834
02:06:13,221 --> 02:06:14,221
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2835
02:06:14,221 --> 02:06:17,221
>> approval of the large lot subdivision

2836
02:06:17,221 --> 02:06:18,221
map.

2837
02:06:18,221 --> 02:06:20,221
>> supervisor weygandt: all those in

2838
02:06:20,221 --> 02:06:22,221
favor say aye. Opposed.

2839
02:06:22,221 --> 02:06:23,221
>> supervisor montgomery: no.

2840
02:06:23,221 --> 02:06:27,421
>> we'll now move on to our 10:30 timed

2841
02:06:30,161 --> 02:06:32,161
item which is community development

2842
02:06:32,161 --> 02:06:34,161
resources also.

2843
02:06:34,161 --> 02:06:37,161
which is the mark at granite bay.

2844
02:06:37,161 --> 02:06:40,761
>> can I ask for a clarification.

2845
02:08:01,101 --> 02:08:02,101
>> supervisor weygandt: sure.

2846
02:08:02,101 --> 02:08:05,101
>> recently I reviewed the initial

2847
02:08:06,101 --> 02:08:09,101
project application and the major

2848
02:08:09,101 --> 02:08:10,101
application.

2849
02:08:10,101 --> 02:08:12,101
I notice they're all with regard to six

2850
02:08:12,101 --> 02:08:14,101
parcel on 13 acres.

2851
02:08:15,101 --> 02:08:17,101
this is about a project for seven

2852
02:08:17,101 --> 02:08:19,101
parcels and 16-acres.

2853
02:08:19,101 --> 02:08:21,101
missing are the added parcel seems to be

2854
02:08:21,101 --> 02:08:24,101
the critical parcel that requires

2855
02:08:24,101 --> 02:08:26,101
emergency access.

2856
02:08:26,101 --> 02:08:29,410
it doesn't appear that the owner of that

2857
02:08:29,410 --> 02:08:31,410
parcel signed on the applications.

2858
02:08:31,410 --> 02:08:34,410
I'm wondering if we're ready for this

2859
02:08:34,410 --> 02:08:35,410
hearing.

2860
02:08:35,410 --> 02:08:37,410
>> supervisor weygandt: that would

2861
02:08:37,410 --> 02:08:40,410
come normally under public hearing.

2862
02:08:40,410 --> 02:08:42,410
I will ask staff to address that as we

2863
02:08:42,410 --> 02:08:43,410
kick off the project.

2864
02:08:43,410 --> 02:08:46,410
these are the kinds of comments that

2865
02:08:46,410 --> 02:08:49,641
should come up under public hearing.

2866
02:08:50,410 --> 02:08:51,410
e.j.

2867
02:08:51,410 --> 02:08:54,641
>> good morning chairman and members of

2868
02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:57,410
the board.

2869
02:08:57,410 --> 02:09:01,241
e.j. Ivaldi with planning services to

2870
02:09:07,410 --> 02:09:08,410
present this item today.

2871
02:09:08,410 --> 02:09:10,410
>> good morning.

2872
02:09:13,410 --> 02:09:15,410
george rosasco.

2873
02:09:19,410 --> 02:09:23,241
nice to be with you this morning.

2874
02:09:25,410 --> 02:09:28,981
before you today is the project park at

2875
02:09:28,981 --> 02:09:30,981
granite bay.

2876
02:09:30,981 --> 02:09:34,981
it is a 56-lot subdivision and a public

2877
02:09:34,981 --> 02:09:36,981
park.

2878
02:09:38,981 --> 02:09:43,181
beside it is 16.3-acres which a minimum

2879
02:09:44,981 --> 02:09:48,981
site -- it is comprised of seven

2880
02:09:48,981 --> 02:09:49,981
parcels.

2881
02:09:49,981 --> 02:09:51,981
one of them has a house and barn on it

2882
02:09:51,981 --> 02:09:52,981
at this time.

2883
02:09:52,981 --> 02:09:58,381
to give you a sense of where it's at,

2884
02:09:58,981 --> 02:10:01,981
this is what is referred to as island

2885
02:10:01,981 --> 02:10:03,981
area in granite bay.

2886
02:10:03,981 --> 02:10:06,981
the orange area is the actual project

2887
02:10:06,981 --> 02:10:07,981
site.

2888
02:10:07,981 --> 02:10:09,981
it's about 1.2-miles from the

2889
02:10:09,981 --> 02:10:12,981
intersection of douglas and sierra

2890
02:10:12,981 --> 02:10:13,981
college.

2891
02:10:13,981 --> 02:10:15,981
it's surrounded by the city of roseville

2892
02:10:15,981 --> 02:10:16,981
on three sides.

2893
02:10:16,981 --> 02:10:19,981
east, west and north and to the south is

2894
02:10:19,981 --> 02:10:22,381
the county of sacramento.

2895
02:10:22,981 --> 02:10:24,981
excuse me.

2896
02:10:24,981 --> 02:10:28,581
this is actual project layout 56 lots.

2897
02:10:28,981 --> 02:10:34,981
you can see -- wait a second -- you can

2898
02:10:34,981 --> 02:10:37,981
see here this is the largest parcel that

2899
02:10:37,981 --> 02:10:40,981
I referred to as .81-acres.

2900
02:10:42,981 --> 02:10:44,981
give you a sense of the project, this is

2901
02:10:44,981 --> 02:10:48,981
what it would look like when it's

2902
02:10:48,981 --> 02:10:49,981
landscaped.

2903
02:10:49,981 --> 02:10:51,981
you see the front, there are separate

2904
02:10:51,981 --> 02:10:53,981
lots for landscaping.

2905
02:10:53,981 --> 02:10:56,981
there will be a two foot berm in front

2906
02:10:56,981 --> 02:10:59,981
of the landscaping with a 6-foot high

2907
02:10:59,981 --> 02:11:01,981
block wall.

2908
02:11:01,981 --> 02:11:05,981
it will be 15 feet landscape buffers all

2909
02:11:05,981 --> 02:11:07,981
the way around the perimeter of the

2910
02:11:07,981 --> 02:11:08,981
property as well as good neighbor

2911
02:11:08,981 --> 02:11:10,981
fencing.

2912
02:11:10,981 --> 02:11:14,981
so, what entitlements do you need to do

2913
02:11:14,981 --> 02:11:16,981
this?

2914
02:11:16,981 --> 02:11:22,381
you need to rezone the site from -- to

2915
02:11:24,981 --> 02:11:26,981
single family.

2916
02:11:26,981 --> 02:11:29,921
you need to do the general plan

2917
02:11:29,921 --> 02:11:31,921
amendment to change the existing rural

2918
02:11:31,921 --> 02:11:34,321
density to immediate density

2919
02:11:34,921 --> 02:11:36,921
residential.

2920
02:11:36,921 --> 02:11:40,921
there is a variance which I'll discuss

2921
02:11:40,921 --> 02:11:43,921
later to 50% where 40% is allowed.

2922
02:11:44,921 --> 02:11:47,921
you need to approve a vesting tentative

2923
02:11:47,921 --> 02:11:49,921
subdivision map.

2924
02:11:49,921 --> 02:11:51,921
that's the entitlement.

2925
02:11:51,921 --> 02:11:53,921
we've prepared an environmental impact

2926
02:11:53,921 --> 02:11:55,921
report for the project.

2927
02:11:55,921 --> 02:11:58,921
the thing I'd like to you take away from

2928
02:11:58,921 --> 02:12:00,921
this, I'm not going into detail about

2929
02:12:00,921 --> 02:12:02,921
it, the environment impact report did

2930
02:12:02,921 --> 02:12:05,921
not require any overriding findings to

2931
02:12:05,921 --> 02:12:07,921
be made from the project.

2932
02:12:07,921 --> 02:12:12,121
so, the biggest question that's come up

2933
02:12:13,921 --> 02:12:16,921
with this property is that it's

2934
02:12:16,921 --> 02:12:18,921
requesting a general plan amendment

2935
02:12:18,921 --> 02:12:21,921
rezoning and that it does not in a lot

2936
02:12:21,921 --> 02:12:24,921
of people's opinions seem to be

2937
02:12:24,921 --> 02:12:27,921
consistent with the granite bay

2938
02:12:28,861 --> 02:12:30,861
community plan.

2939
02:12:30,861 --> 02:12:33,861
I can tell you it's an island area.

2940
02:12:33,861 --> 02:12:37,861
it's surrounded by high density areas in

2941
02:12:37,861 --> 02:12:38,861
the city of roseville.

2942
02:12:38,861 --> 02:12:43,661
the lots to the east, west, and north

2943
02:12:44,861 --> 02:12:47,861
vary anywhere from five units per acre

2944
02:12:47,861 --> 02:12:49,861
all the way up in some instances when

2945
02:12:49,861 --> 02:12:54,661
you get up to near eureka are 25 units

2946
02:12:54,861 --> 02:12:55,861
per acre.

2947
02:12:55,861 --> 02:12:58,861
most of the lots outside the area are

2948
02:12:58,861 --> 02:13:00,861
8,000 square feet.

2949
02:13:01,861 --> 02:13:04,861
even more than that, this would locate

2950
02:13:04,861 --> 02:13:07,261
higher density land uses.

2951
02:13:08,861 --> 02:13:10,861
we have sewer, water, the main

2952
02:13:10,861 --> 02:13:12,861
thoroughfare that goes through here.

2953
02:13:12,861 --> 02:13:15,861
which makes an area suitable for high

2954
02:13:15,861 --> 02:13:17,861
density.

2955
02:13:17,861 --> 02:13:20,861
the residents would be of a consistent

2956
02:13:20,861 --> 02:13:21,861
size and scale with adjoining

2957
02:13:21,861 --> 02:13:23,861
properties.

2958
02:13:23,861 --> 02:13:26,861
the area has 122 parcels in it.

2959
02:13:26,861 --> 02:13:28,861
of those 122 parcels.

2960
02:13:29,801 --> 02:13:32,801
24% of a consistent size with what is

2961
02:13:32,801 --> 02:13:35,201
proposed by the project.

2962
02:13:35,801 --> 02:13:37,801
it will provide recreational

2963
02:13:37,801 --> 02:13:40,801
opportunities for kids in granite bay

2964
02:13:40,801 --> 02:13:44,801
and it will also have -- it's

2965
02:13:44,801 --> 02:13:47,801
well-buffered from the larger parcels

2966
02:13:47,801 --> 02:13:51,401
that exist right on the borders.

2967
02:13:52,801 --> 02:13:54,801
this is to give you an idea of zoning

2968
02:13:54,801 --> 02:13:57,801
that's there rural residential zoning.

2969
02:13:57,801 --> 02:14:01,401
excuse me, rural low density residential

2970
02:14:02,801 --> 02:14:04,801
is in most of the area.

2971
02:14:04,801 --> 02:14:06,801
there is one rural recreational piece on

2972
02:14:06,801 --> 02:14:10,401
the corner auburn and sierra college.

2973
02:14:12,801 --> 02:14:13,801
I already hit on this.

2974
02:14:13,801 --> 02:14:15,801
122 parcels.

2975
02:14:19,801 --> 02:14:22,801
this is the zoning map.

2976
02:14:22,801 --> 02:14:24,801
pretty consistent with the community

2977
02:14:24,801 --> 02:14:26,801
plan map.

2978
02:14:27,741 --> 02:14:29,741
with regard to aesthetics.

2979
02:14:29,741 --> 02:14:33,341
this is a higher density residential

2980
02:14:33,741 --> 02:14:38,541
development in what is sort of -- people

2981
02:14:39,741 --> 02:14:42,741
were concerned that a newer high density

2982
02:14:42,741 --> 02:14:44,741
residential development would 23409 be

2983
02:14:44,741 --> 02:14:48,741
consistent with the feel of the island

2984
02:14:48,741 --> 02:14:49,741
area of granite bay.

2985
02:14:49,741 --> 02:14:51,741
what they did is they went around the

2986
02:14:51,741 --> 02:14:55,941
ones with the stars, those are 14-deep

2987
02:14:56,741 --> 02:14:59,741
restricted lots to one storey to lower

2988
02:14:59,741 --> 02:15:01,741
the mass of the prompt so it doesn't

2989
02:15:01,741 --> 02:15:04,741
stick out a lot to adjoining property

2990
02:15:04,741 --> 02:15:05,741
owners.

2991
02:15:05,741 --> 02:15:09,941
they've gone quite -- well they've done

2992
02:15:13,741 --> 02:15:15,741
a lot with fencing.

2993
02:15:15,741 --> 02:15:18,741
block walls in front for sound

2994
02:15:18,741 --> 02:15:20,741
attenuation and landscaping.

2995
02:15:20,741 --> 02:15:24,341
the black is good neighbor fencing.

2996
02:15:24,741 --> 02:15:27,681
and the red for reference is front

2997
02:15:27,681 --> 02:15:29,681
decorative fencing.

2998
02:15:29,681 --> 02:15:33,881
with regard to's -- with regard to

2999
02:15:35,681 --> 02:15:38,681
aesthetics, you can see on view one,

3000
02:15:38,681 --> 02:15:40,681
two, three, four, five.

3001
02:15:40,681 --> 02:15:43,681
they took those views one on havoccal,

3002
02:15:43,681 --> 02:15:47,681
annabelle and the college to see what

3003
02:15:47,681 --> 02:15:50,681
the project would look like in 10 years

3004
02:15:50,681 --> 02:15:51,681
to surrounding properties.

3005
02:15:51,681 --> 02:15:55,281
with regard looking from the boulevard

3006
02:15:55,681 --> 02:16:00,681
west now is on the top is what you see

3007
02:16:00,681 --> 02:16:01,681
now.

3008
02:16:01,681 --> 02:16:06,481
on the bottom is what you'd see at 10

3009
02:16:06,681 --> 02:16:07,681
years of buildup.

3010
02:16:07,681 --> 02:16:10,681
it looks pretty much the same.

3011
02:16:10,681 --> 02:16:12,681
looking northwest.

3012
02:16:12,681 --> 02:16:14,681
that's what you see on top.

3013
02:16:14,681 --> 02:16:17,681
10 years ever build-out, really, you see

3014
02:16:17,681 --> 02:16:19,681
landscaping.

3015
02:16:19,681 --> 02:16:22,681
from havoccal way looking north, the

3016
02:16:22,681 --> 02:16:26,681
view, -- the upper is the view.

3017
02:16:26,681 --> 02:16:29,621
lower is what you'll see in 10 years.

3018
02:16:29,621 --> 02:16:31,621
tree and landscaping.

3019
02:16:42,621 --> 02:16:45,210
eckerman road looking east.

3020
02:16:46,621 --> 02:16:48,621
you see the fencing.

3021
02:16:48,621 --> 02:16:52,821
this is anna bell avenue looking south.

3022
02:16:53,621 --> 02:16:55,621
top is what you see now.

3023
02:16:55,621 --> 02:16:59,621
10 years from now is what you'll see.

3024
02:16:59,621 --> 02:17:05,210
so, as I said, these are for your own.

3025
02:17:05,621 --> 02:17:08,621
you see the actual entitlement amendment

3026
02:17:08,621 --> 02:17:09,621
rezone.

3027
02:17:09,621 --> 02:17:12,210
subdivision map and variance.

3028
02:17:12,621 --> 02:17:14,621
that's all I have unless you have any

3029
02:17:14,621 --> 02:17:15,621
specific questions.

3030
02:17:15,621 --> 02:17:18,210
>> supervisor weygandt: questions or

3031
02:17:18,621 --> 02:17:21,210
comments by board members?

3032
02:17:21,621 --> 02:17:22,621
>> supervisor uhler: george, would you

3033
02:17:22,621 --> 02:17:25,621
go back to the -- I think it was the

3034
02:17:25,621 --> 02:17:28,561
aerial view that you had of the project

3035
02:17:28,561 --> 02:17:30,561
site.

3036
02:17:30,561 --> 02:17:31,561
>> yes.

3037
02:17:31,561 --> 02:17:33,961
>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

3038
02:17:43,561 --> 02:17:48,561
so I think I heard you correctly, but I

3039
02:17:48,561 --> 02:17:49,561
want to clarify.

3040
02:17:49,561 --> 02:17:54,361
you said in the island area bordered by

3041
02:17:56,561 --> 02:17:58,561
roseville to the west and north and

3042
02:17:58,561 --> 02:18:01,561
sierra college to the east and old

3043
02:18:01,561 --> 02:18:04,561
auburn to the southwest of 120 parcels

3044
02:18:04,561 --> 02:18:08,561
of which you said I think 25 percent or

3045
02:18:08,561 --> 02:18:10,561
a quarter acre or less something along

3046
02:18:10,561 --> 02:18:11,561
those lines?

3047
02:18:11,561 --> 02:18:13,561
>> 24%.

3048
02:18:13,561 --> 02:18:15,561
there is 122 parcels.

3049
02:18:16,561 --> 02:18:18,561
I believe if my memory serves me right,

3050
02:18:18,561 --> 02:18:22,561
29 of them are consistent with what is

3051
02:18:22,561 --> 02:18:24,561
being proposed.

3052
02:18:24,561 --> 02:18:28,501
it works out to 24% of the island areas

3053
02:18:28,501 --> 02:18:30,501
consistent from what is proposed by

3054
02:18:30,501 --> 02:18:31,501
park.

3055
02:18:31,501 --> 02:18:32,501
>> supervisor uhler: so with the

3056
02:18:32,501 --> 02:18:34,901
adoption of the 1989 plan.

3057
02:18:37,501 --> 02:18:40,501
we have the land use designation of .9

3058
02:18:40,501 --> 02:18:42,501
to 2.3 for this.

3059
02:18:43,501 --> 02:18:47,701
yet, by my count, 70 of the existing

3060
02:18:49,501 --> 02:18:51,501
parcels out there don't meet the land

3061
02:18:51,501 --> 02:18:52,501
use designation.

3062
02:18:52,501 --> 02:18:54,501
>> right.

3063
02:18:55,501 --> 02:18:56,501
correct.

3064
02:18:56,501 --> 02:18:58,501
they fall below that.

3065
02:18:58,501 --> 02:19:01,501
>> supervisor uhler: they fall below.

3066
02:19:01,501 --> 02:19:04,501
so when we adopted the community plan in

3067
02:19:04,501 --> 02:19:09,301
'89, we had allowed for zoning to be put

3068
02:19:10,501 --> 02:19:14,101
on that that automatically created half

3069
02:19:15,501 --> 02:19:18,501
of the lots as nonconforming lots.

3070
02:19:18,501 --> 02:19:19,501
>> correct.

3071
02:19:19,501 --> 02:19:20,501
>> supervisor uhler: any idea why that

3072
02:19:20,501 --> 02:19:21,501
was done?

3073
02:19:21,501 --> 02:19:23,901
>> I wasn't working here.

3074
02:19:25,501 --> 02:19:27,441
I was still a year out.

3075
02:19:27,441 --> 02:19:29,441
>> supervisor uhler: likewise, when

3076
02:19:29,441 --> 02:19:32,441
this was adopted in 1989, the city of

3077
02:19:32,441 --> 02:19:34,441
roseville had built that project to the

3078
02:19:34,441 --> 02:19:37,441
west right up to the property line.

3079
02:19:37,441 --> 02:19:42,241
that project homes have been of -- homes

3080
02:19:43,441 --> 02:19:45,441
having been built in the mid '80s.

3081
02:19:45,441 --> 02:19:49,641
I see property sizes parcel sizes of

3082
02:19:50,441 --> 02:19:54,641
8400 square feet on the boarder of this.

3083
02:19:57,441 --> 02:20:00,441
we adopted a zoning knowing that we had

3084
02:20:00,441 --> 02:20:03,441
less than a quarter acre lots a density

3085
02:20:03,441 --> 02:20:05,441
of five to the acre.

3086
02:20:05,441 --> 02:20:07,441
immediately adjacent to the city of

3087
02:20:07,441 --> 02:20:08,441
roseville.

3088
02:20:08,441 --> 02:20:11,441
we have over half of the existing lots

3089
02:20:11,441 --> 02:20:14,441
not in conformance with the zoning

3090
02:20:14,441 --> 02:20:17,441
designation yet we put the zoning

3091
02:20:17,441 --> 02:20:19,441
designation on their anyway?

3092
02:20:19,441 --> 02:20:21,441
>> yes.

3093
02:20:21,441 --> 02:20:22,441
>> supervisor uhler: then you

3094
02:20:22,441 --> 02:20:24,441
mentioned since then, roseville has

3095
02:20:24,441 --> 02:20:29,241
built to the north that area has built

3096
02:20:29,441 --> 02:20:33,641
with lots as small as 6900 square feet

3097
02:20:34,441 --> 02:20:38,410
and roseville annexed the remainder of

3098
02:20:39,441 --> 02:20:41,441
the part that got pulled into the

3099
02:20:41,441 --> 02:20:44,441
southeast specific plan area that's the

3100
02:20:44,441 --> 02:20:47,441
part that is now known as hillsborough

3101
02:20:47,441 --> 02:20:51,441
and ashley woods and east ridge, those

3102
02:20:51,441 --> 02:20:52,441
subdivisions.

3103
02:20:52,441 --> 02:20:56,441
over there, we have lots in the 8,000

3104
02:20:56,441 --> 02:20:58,441
square foot range.

3105
02:20:59,441 --> 02:21:01,441
>> correct.

3106
02:21:01,441 --> 02:21:04,441
>> supervisor uhler: if as a planner,

3107
02:21:04,441 --> 02:21:07,441
if there were no land use designation

3108
02:21:07,441 --> 02:21:11,441
assigned to this area, what in your

3109
02:21:11,441 --> 02:21:14,441
opinion is an appropriate land use

3110
02:21:14,441 --> 02:21:18,641
designation for an area on a main

3111
02:21:19,441 --> 02:21:22,441
arterial surrounded by high density

3112
02:21:22,441 --> 02:21:26,641
residential on three sides, what do you

3113
02:21:27,381 --> 02:21:29,381
think is an appropriate land use for

3114
02:21:29,381 --> 02:21:30,381
this area?

3115
02:21:30,381 --> 02:21:35,181
>> um, well, it's no secret, I said this

3116
02:21:35,381 --> 02:21:37,381
at the planning commission as well.

3117
02:21:37,381 --> 02:21:40,381
it's my opinion that, you know, as a

3118
02:21:40,381 --> 02:21:42,381
planner when you look at this, you have

3119
02:21:42,381 --> 02:21:44,381
to look at surrounding uses and look at

3120
02:21:44,381 --> 02:21:47,381
consistency and that sort of thing.

3121
02:21:47,381 --> 02:21:51,381
this has all the -- what I was saying is

3122
02:21:51,381 --> 02:21:53,381
this came up in the plan commission and

3123
02:21:53,381 --> 02:21:55,381
I'll tell you what I told them.

3124
02:21:55,381 --> 02:21:58,381
you have to look at what is around it.

3125
02:21:58,381 --> 02:22:02,381
I think if we would have in 2012 looked

3126
02:22:02,381 --> 02:22:05,381
at land use updates with regard to the

3127
02:22:05,381 --> 02:22:07,381
granite bay community plan, this is an

3128
02:22:07,381 --> 02:22:10,381
area that we'd have to look at high

3129
02:22:10,381 --> 02:22:13,381
density maybe even commercial zoning

3130
02:22:13,381 --> 02:22:16,381
look apartments at 21 units per acre.

3131
02:22:16,381 --> 02:22:19,381
it's not out of question.

3132
02:22:20,381 --> 02:22:23,381
roseville last 25 units per acre.

3133
02:22:24,381 --> 02:22:27,321
this is one of the areas where you would

3134
02:22:27,321 --> 02:22:30,321
look at high density and roseville would

3135
02:22:30,321 --> 02:22:31,321
have something to say about it because

3136
02:22:31,321 --> 02:22:34,321
it's within their sphere of influence.

3137
02:22:34,321 --> 02:22:37,321
>> supervisor uhler: to that question

3138
02:22:37,321 --> 02:22:39,321
I've been curious about the creation of

3139
02:22:39,321 --> 02:22:41,321
this island in the first place and how

3140
02:22:41,321 --> 02:22:44,321
we've ended up in this position.

3141
02:22:44,321 --> 02:22:47,921
with roseville coming across even though

3142
02:22:48,321 --> 02:22:52,321
those people on the east side of sierra

3143
02:22:52,321 --> 02:22:56,321
college, many of them have a granite bay

3144
02:22:56,321 --> 02:22:59,321
zip code but they're in the city of

3145
02:22:59,321 --> 02:23:03,321
roseville people on the west side are a

3146
02:23:03,321 --> 02:23:06,321
roseville zip code but they're in

3147
02:23:06,321 --> 02:23:07,321
granite bay.

3148
02:23:07,321 --> 02:23:09,321
the question for council, I know this

3149
02:23:09,321 --> 02:23:11,321
was done a while ago, but is this kind

3150
02:23:11,321 --> 02:23:16,121
of thing even allowed by law today where

3151
02:23:17,321 --> 02:23:19,321
you can leave an island like that cut

3152
02:23:19,321 --> 02:23:21,321
off from services by existing

3153
02:23:21,321 --> 02:23:22,321
jurisdictions?

3154
02:23:22,321 --> 02:23:25,321
>> the law would discourage such

3155
02:23:26,321 --> 02:23:28,321
annexation.

3156
02:23:31,261 --> 02:23:34,261
the commission shall deny city

3157
02:23:34,261 --> 02:23:37,261
annexations that create areas surrounded

3158
02:23:38,261 --> 02:23:39,261
by a city.

3159
02:23:39,261 --> 02:23:41,261
>> if the city had come across and

3160
02:23:41,261 --> 02:23:43,261
claimed they would have been forced

3161
02:23:43,261 --> 02:23:45,261
under today's law to take that into the

3162
02:23:45,261 --> 02:23:46,261
city as well.

3163
02:23:46,261 --> 02:23:47,261
>> yes.

3164
02:23:47,261 --> 02:23:48,261
>> supervisor uhler: correct.

3165
02:23:48,261 --> 02:23:50,261
I think that's all the questions I have

3166
02:23:50,261 --> 02:23:52,261
for now, thank you.

3167
02:23:52,261 --> 02:23:56,461
>> george, is this island and parcel in

3168
02:23:59,261 --> 02:24:01,261
the city of roseville?

3169
02:24:01,261 --> 02:24:02,261
>> no.

3170
02:24:02,261 --> 02:24:04,261
>> supervisor montgomery: and do we at

3171
02:24:04,261 --> 02:24:06,261
placer county use the city of

3172
02:24:06,261 --> 02:24:08,261
roseville's zoning regulations

3173
02:24:08,261 --> 02:24:09,261
requirements?

3174
02:24:09,261 --> 02:24:10,261
>> no.

3175
02:24:10,261 --> 02:24:11,261
>> supervisor montgomery: thank you.

3176
02:24:11,261 --> 02:24:13,261
>> supervisor weygandt: any other

3177
02:24:13,261 --> 02:24:15,261
questions or comments?

3178
02:24:15,261 --> 02:24:16,261
boards members?

3179
02:24:16,261 --> 02:24:17,261
at this time?

3180
02:24:17,261 --> 02:24:18,261
okay.

3181
02:24:18,261 --> 02:24:20,261
we'll now turn it over to the applicant

3182
02:24:20,261 --> 02:24:22,261
for their presentation.

3183
02:24:30,201 --> 02:24:32,601
>> marcus leduca from roseville.

3184
02:24:37,201 --> 02:24:39,201
I'm pleased to be before you today with

3185
02:24:39,201 --> 02:24:40,201
the recommendation for approval from

3186
02:24:40,201 --> 02:24:43,801
your staff and the near unanimous

3187
02:24:45,201 --> 02:24:46,201
recommendation from the planning

3188
02:24:46,201 --> 02:24:49,201
commission on an infill project and

3189
02:24:49,201 --> 02:24:52,201
infill area of placer county.

3190
02:24:52,201 --> 02:24:55,201
it's pleasing for us to come before you

3191
02:24:55,201 --> 02:25:00,201
after a project with an e.I.r. Has no

3192
02:25:00,201 --> 02:25:02,201
significant environmental effects.

3193
02:25:04,201 --> 02:25:06,201
once mitigation measures have been

3194
02:25:06,201 --> 02:25:08,201
applied to the project which measures we

3195
02:25:08,201 --> 02:25:10,201
are in agreement with as well as all

3196
02:25:10,201 --> 02:25:12,201
conditions of approval being applied in

3197
02:25:12,201 --> 02:25:15,201
the project to your staff as recommended

3198
02:25:15,201 --> 02:25:17,201
to you by the planning commission.

3199
02:25:17,201 --> 02:25:20,201
the staff report and presentation here

3200
02:25:20,201 --> 02:25:22,201
and the planning commission have done a

3201
02:25:22,201 --> 02:25:25,201
thorough job summarizing the project and

3202
02:25:25,201 --> 02:25:28,141
the various issues and concerns raised

3203
02:25:28,141 --> 02:25:30,141
during the lengthy planning process on

3204
02:25:30,141 --> 02:25:31,141
this project.

3205
02:25:31,141 --> 02:25:33,141
I wanted to provide additional

3206
02:25:33,141 --> 02:25:35,141
background and a history not only of

3207
02:25:35,141 --> 02:25:38,141
this project -- but in this area.

3208
02:25:38,141 --> 02:25:40,141
you touched on the fact that the island

3209
02:25:40,141 --> 02:25:43,141
area was created by a series of

3210
02:25:43,141 --> 02:25:46,141
annexations that left this area

3211
02:25:47,141 --> 02:25:49,141
surrounded on three sides by the city

3212
02:25:49,141 --> 02:25:52,741
and fourth side by sacramento county.

3213
02:25:56,141 --> 02:25:59,741
the last few annexations I've been

3214
02:26:00,141 --> 02:26:03,141
allowed with, it's not allowed.

3215
02:26:03,141 --> 02:26:06,141
they were permitted to go forward in

3216
02:26:06,141 --> 02:26:09,741
1988 when roseville plan east of sierra

3217
02:26:10,141 --> 02:26:11,141
college was added.

3218
02:26:11,141 --> 02:26:13,141
after that time, you would not be able

3219
02:26:13,141 --> 02:26:16,741
to proceed forward on that basis.

3220
02:26:17,141 --> 02:26:21,341
again, as you highlighted, the area is

3221
02:26:22,141 --> 02:26:23,141
mostly built out.

3222
02:26:23,141 --> 02:26:25,141
102 developed.

3223
02:26:25,141 --> 02:26:27,810
there are very few undeveloped parcels

3224
02:26:27,810 --> 02:26:28,810
left.

3225
02:26:28,810 --> 02:26:32,281
as mr. Rosasco just mentioned, a quarter

3226
02:26:35,810 --> 02:26:38,810
of the lots are of the same size or less

3227
02:26:38,810 --> 02:26:40,810
than the prompt before you with a

3228
02:26:40,810 --> 02:26:42,810
density of 3.4 units per acre.

3229
02:26:42,810 --> 02:26:45,810
you hear this is a much more dense

3230
02:26:45,810 --> 02:26:48,810
project, I would be hard pressed to say

3231
02:26:48,810 --> 02:26:51,681
that 3.4 units per acre is dense.

3232
02:26:53,810 --> 02:26:54,810
project that you have before you,

3233
02:26:54,810 --> 02:26:56,810
however, is very different from the one

3234
02:26:56,810 --> 02:26:59,681
first submitted to the county and

3235
02:27:00,810 --> 02:27:02,481
presented to the community.

3236
02:27:04,810 --> 02:27:06,810
in the fall of 2014 this project was

3237
02:27:06,810 --> 02:27:08,810
presented to the granite bay map as

3238
02:27:08,810 --> 02:27:10,810
information item.

3239
02:27:10,810 --> 02:27:12,810
it had 94 units.

3240
02:27:13,810 --> 02:27:17,281
it had a minimum lot size of 3,000

3241
02:27:18,810 --> 02:27:21,681
square feet and average size of 4400

3242
02:27:25,810 --> 02:27:26,810
square feet.

3243
02:27:26,810 --> 02:27:28,210
the project's park was just about

3244
02:27:28,210 --> 02:27:30,210
1.5-acres in size.

3245
02:27:32,210 --> 02:27:36,210
it included a trail, a rose garden, and

3246
02:27:36,210 --> 02:27:39,210
10-foot landscape buffer on north, south

3247
02:27:39,210 --> 02:27:41,210
and west sides of the project.

3248
02:27:41,210 --> 02:27:42,210
all homes in the project at that time

3249
02:27:42,210 --> 02:27:45,210
were to be two-storeys in height.

3250
02:27:45,210 --> 02:27:48,621
so again, for in november 2014 after

3251
02:27:49,210 --> 02:27:52,621
that meeting, mr. Tattersall took those

3252
02:27:55,210 --> 02:27:56,210
issues and comments he had heard,

3253
02:27:56,210 --> 02:27:59,210
revisited the project, reduced the

3254
02:27:59,210 --> 02:28:02,621
number of homes to 84 units basically

3255
02:28:03,210 --> 02:28:06,210
lot sizes increased to 7,000 square

3256
02:28:07,210 --> 02:28:08,210
feet.

3257
02:28:08,210 --> 02:28:10,210
the landscape buffer was increased from

3258
02:28:10,210 --> 02:28:12,210
10 to 15%.

3259
02:28:12,210 --> 02:28:15,210
all homes in the property remained

3260
02:28:15,210 --> 02:28:16,210
two-storey.

3261
02:28:16,210 --> 02:28:19,210
this was the version of the project in

3262
02:28:19,210 --> 02:28:21,210
the preparation for the e.I.r. That went

3263
02:28:21,210 --> 02:28:24,210
out at the end of 2014.

3264
02:28:25,210 --> 02:28:26,961
a number of community comments were to

3265
02:28:26,961 --> 02:28:29,961
be submitted to the county on the n.o.p.

3266
02:28:29,961 --> 02:28:32,961
at that time but rather than relying on

3267
02:28:32,961 --> 02:28:33,961
written comments be submitted by

3268
02:28:33,961 --> 02:28:37,561
e-mail or letter, my client's team

3269
02:28:39,961 --> 02:28:40,961
decided to engage in the community in

3270
02:28:40,961 --> 02:28:43,961
face-to-face meetings to be able to have

3271
02:28:43,961 --> 02:28:45,961
an opportunity to hear firsthand what

3272
02:28:45,961 --> 02:28:47,961
people's issues and concerns and to

3273
02:28:47,961 --> 02:28:49,961
address some of the misinformation out

3274
02:28:49,961 --> 02:28:50,961
there on the project.

3275
02:28:50,961 --> 02:28:53,361
those community outreach efforts

3276
02:28:53,961 --> 02:28:55,961
consisted of three community meetings

3277
02:28:55,961 --> 02:28:58,961
with those being advertised by mail to

3278
02:28:58,961 --> 02:29:02,561
all these 122 parcels northern part of

3279
02:29:02,961 --> 02:29:03,961
the island.

3280
02:29:03,961 --> 02:29:06,961
at the same time mr. Tattersall

3281
02:29:06,961 --> 02:29:10,561
announced those meeting tots granite bay

3282
02:29:10,961 --> 02:29:15,161
mac on other occasions so people would

3283
02:29:15,961 --> 02:29:16,961
know about head to.

3284
02:29:16,961 --> 02:29:17,961
they were held at the granite bay

3285
02:29:17,961 --> 02:29:19,961
library.

3286
02:29:21,961 --> 02:29:23,961
a total of fewer than 20 residents

3287
02:29:23,961 --> 02:29:26,961
including some repeat attendees attended

3288
02:29:27,901 --> 02:29:29,901
those meetings in total.

3289
02:29:29,901 --> 02:29:34,101
my client met with folks on eckerman

3290
02:29:35,901 --> 02:29:38,901
road in a separate meeting.

3291
02:29:38,901 --> 02:29:40,901
after several followup conversations

3292
02:29:40,901 --> 02:29:42,901
with residents in the area.

3293
02:29:42,901 --> 02:29:45,901
the project team took a step back at

3294
02:29:45,901 --> 02:29:48,901
that point and based on the concerns

3295
02:29:48,901 --> 02:29:51,901
issues and discussion points raised

3296
02:29:51,901 --> 02:29:53,901
during the community meetings decided to

3297
02:29:53,901 --> 02:29:56,301
relook at the project.

3298
02:29:56,901 --> 02:29:58,901
along the lines of not looking at

3299
02:29:58,901 --> 02:30:01,901
saying, well, we have a targeted number

3300
02:30:01,901 --> 02:30:03,901
of units and targeted density but took a

3301
02:30:03,901 --> 02:30:05,901
step back to the view right there and

3302
02:30:05,901 --> 02:30:10,701
see what else in the community nearby we

3303
02:30:10,901 --> 02:30:13,901
could model this after in terms of what

3304
02:30:13,901 --> 02:30:14,901
is already existing in the island as

3305
02:30:14,901 --> 02:30:16,901
opposed to proposing something that

3306
02:30:16,901 --> 02:30:19,901
doesn't exist, what exists in the

3307
02:30:19,901 --> 02:30:20,901
island?

3308
02:30:20,901 --> 02:30:25,101
two parcels away sits lots on annabelle

3309
02:30:27,901 --> 02:30:29,901
avenue are a quarter acre in size or

3310
02:30:29,901 --> 02:30:30,901
less.

3311
02:30:30,901 --> 02:30:32,901
rather than telling the planners and

3312
02:30:32,901 --> 02:30:35,901
engineers design something based on

3313
02:30:35,901 --> 02:30:37,901
this, what can you do looking at that

3314
02:30:37,901 --> 02:30:39,901
and the things we want to achieve based

3315
02:30:39,901 --> 02:30:42,901
on the comments we heard come up with a

3316
02:30:42,901 --> 02:30:47,901
plan and see how you can get to what is

3317
02:30:47,901 --> 02:30:50,301
there on annabelle avenue.

3318
02:30:51,901 --> 02:30:53,901
what we came up with the project before

3319
02:30:53,901 --> 02:30:54,901
you.

3320
02:30:54,901 --> 02:30:57,901
the 56 lots represented 40% reduction in

3321
02:30:57,901 --> 02:30:59,901
what was presented to the mac in

3322
02:30:59,901 --> 02:31:01,901
november of 2014.

3323
02:31:01,901 --> 02:31:06,101
the lot sizes again now range from 7100

3324
02:31:08,901 --> 02:31:11,301
to over 17,000 square feet.

3325
02:31:11,901 --> 02:31:15,501
the average lot size is over 9,000

3326
02:31:16,901 --> 02:31:18,901
square feet roughly a quarter of an

3327
02:31:18,901 --> 02:31:20,901
acre.

3328
02:31:20,901 --> 02:31:23,901
roughly what you have on annabelle

3329
02:31:23,901 --> 02:31:24,901
avenue.

3330
02:31:24,901 --> 02:31:27,301
looking at adjacency issues.

3331
02:31:28,841 --> 02:31:30,841
looking at the homes that are adjacent

3332
02:31:30,841 --> 02:31:35,641
to the project, you thought to try to

3333
02:31:35,841 --> 02:31:39,441
address some adjacency issue issues and

3334
02:31:42,841 --> 02:31:45,841
addressed 14 lots nearest to the houses

3335
02:31:45,841 --> 02:31:47,841
on our neighbors properties.

3336
02:31:47,841 --> 02:31:50,841
a quarter of the lots in those adjacent

3337
02:31:50,841 --> 02:31:51,841
areas.

3338
02:31:51,841 --> 02:31:52,841
as you can see from the subdivision map,

3339
02:31:52,841 --> 02:31:55,841
one of the lots adjacent to us that has

3340
02:31:55,841 --> 02:31:58,841
a long distance immediately to the

3341
02:31:58,841 --> 02:32:01,841
northwest only has one house right now

3342
02:32:01,841 --> 02:32:04,841
there is a 15-foot landscape buffer.

3343
02:32:04,841 --> 02:32:06,841
there is only one house next to that.

3344
02:32:06,841 --> 02:32:09,241
actually be deed restricted.

3345
02:32:10,841 --> 02:32:16,241
the other aspect is if we could pull up,

3346
02:32:17,841 --> 02:32:20,241
george, the actual project.

3347
02:32:22,841 --> 02:32:26,781
we're asking for a variance for those

3348
02:32:26,781 --> 02:32:30,381
less than 800 square foot -- 800 square

3349
02:32:33,781 --> 02:32:34,781
feet.

3350
02:32:34,781 --> 02:32:38,381
right now current regulations say that

3351
02:32:38,781 --> 02:32:41,781
your coverage for a one-storey house is

3352
02:32:41,781 --> 02:32:42,781
40%.

3353
02:32:42,781 --> 02:32:46,981
we proposed it for lots less than 8,000

3354
02:32:47,781 --> 02:32:48,781
square feet.

3355
02:32:48,781 --> 02:32:50,781
if you want a one-storey home, you can

3356
02:32:50,781 --> 02:32:52,781
go to 40%.

3357
02:32:52,781 --> 02:32:55,781
if you look around the edges of

3358
02:32:55,781 --> 02:32:59,981
projects, I believe nearly every one are

3359
02:33:00,781 --> 02:33:02,781
8,000 square feet for more.

3360
02:33:02,781 --> 02:33:04,781
they'd be subject to the 40%.

3361
02:33:04,781 --> 02:33:06,781
if you look at that middle part of the

3362
02:33:06,781 --> 02:33:09,781
prompt, those are below 8,000 square

3363
02:33:09,781 --> 02:33:10,781
feet.

3364
02:33:10,781 --> 02:33:12,781
we could do a mix there.

3365
02:33:12,781 --> 02:33:16,781
the idea of this variance we request

3366
02:33:16,781 --> 02:33:17,781
would allow that.

3367
02:33:17,781 --> 02:33:20,781
we know if terms of setbacks another

3368
02:33:20,781 --> 02:33:24,381
issue, that the setbacks we're proposing

3369
02:33:24,781 --> 02:33:25,781
for the homes along the edge of the

3370
02:33:25,781 --> 02:33:27,721
property are far, far greater than what

3371
02:33:27,721 --> 02:33:30,721
the setbacks are of the existing homes

3372
02:33:30,721 --> 02:33:32,721
relevant to our property line.

3373
02:33:32,721 --> 02:33:35,721
our setbacks for rear yards for

3374
02:33:35,721 --> 02:33:37,721
one-storey is 35 feet.

3375
02:33:37,721 --> 02:33:40,721
for two-storeys is 42.5 square feet.

3376
02:33:41,721 --> 02:33:45,921
the project retains the park, 8/10s of

3377
02:33:47,721 --> 02:33:49,721
an acre in side.

3378
02:33:49,721 --> 02:33:52,721
it can accommodate youth soccer and

3379
02:33:52,721 --> 02:33:53,721
other events.

3380
02:33:53,721 --> 02:33:55,721
this was presented at the planning

3381
02:33:55,721 --> 02:33:58,721
commission hearing that both granite bay

3382
02:33:58,721 --> 02:34:02,721
fc and granite bay youth lacrosse would

3383
02:34:02,721 --> 02:34:05,721
be able to use this in practice.

3384
02:34:05,721 --> 02:34:07,721
the biggest issue throughout the region

3385
02:34:07,721 --> 02:34:10,721
and throughout placer county and granite

3386
02:34:10,721 --> 02:34:12,721
bay area in particular are not having

3387
02:34:12,721 --> 02:34:15,721
places for matches, you can have places

3388
02:34:15,721 --> 02:34:18,721
for matches, it's practice fields.

3389
02:34:18,721 --> 02:34:19,721
I'm sure it's in all your districts

3390
02:34:19,721 --> 02:34:21,721
trying to find practice fields.

3391
02:34:21,721 --> 02:34:24,721
this park site would be open to the

3392
02:34:24,721 --> 02:34:25,721
public dawn to dusk.

3393
02:34:25,721 --> 02:34:28,661
our gates would be open dawn to dusk.

3394
02:34:28,661 --> 02:34:31,661
in essence, the county is getting a

3395
02:34:31,661 --> 02:34:32,661
freebie.

3396
02:34:32,661 --> 02:34:34,661
a park to be used by the public not

3397
02:34:34,661 --> 02:34:37,661
having to pay to own it or maintain it.

3398
02:34:37,661 --> 02:34:39,661
the project to achieve the large lot

3399
02:34:39,661 --> 02:34:44,461
sizes limit to the rose garden and park

3400
02:34:44,661 --> 02:34:45,661
lot.

3401
02:34:45,661 --> 02:34:46,661
we have parking on the lot on the one

3402
02:34:46,661 --> 02:34:47,661
side of the street.

3403
02:34:47,661 --> 02:34:52,461
we did retain a 15-foot wide land buffer

3404
02:34:52,661 --> 02:34:54,661
on the north, south and west edges of

3405
02:34:54,661 --> 02:34:55,661
the property.

3406
02:34:55,661 --> 02:34:57,661
you're going to hear a number of

3407
02:34:57,661 --> 02:35:02,461
projects on the -- number of comments on

3408
02:35:02,661 --> 02:35:05,661
the project regarding our drainage study

3409
02:35:05,661 --> 02:35:09,661
and it has impact on everything from the

3410
02:35:09,661 --> 02:35:13,261
school district to traffic impacts and

3411
02:35:13,661 --> 02:35:15,661
the claim there should be no changes to

3412
02:35:15,661 --> 02:35:18,661
the granite bay community plan should be

3413
02:35:18,661 --> 02:35:19,661
made since the update to the community

3414
02:35:19,661 --> 02:35:22,661
plan was just adopted four years ago.

3415
02:35:22,661 --> 02:35:24,661
I'd like to briefly address each of the

3416
02:35:24,661 --> 02:35:25,661
items.

3417
02:35:25,661 --> 02:35:28,601
in terms of project drainage, existing

3418
02:35:28,601 --> 02:35:31,601
localized flooding issues on eckerman

3419
02:35:33,601 --> 02:35:36,601
road are caused by draining by local

3420
02:35:36,601 --> 02:35:38,601
residents.

3421
02:35:38,601 --> 02:35:40,601
drainage improvements by the same

3422
02:35:40,601 --> 02:35:42,601
residents that were not designed under

3423
02:35:42,601 --> 02:35:44,601
engineering standards.

3424
02:35:44,601 --> 02:35:46,601
comments received last week on the

3425
02:35:46,601 --> 02:35:49,601
study, we've had our engineer working

3426
02:35:49,601 --> 02:35:52,601
over the weekend and yesterday and

3427
02:35:52,601 --> 02:35:54,601
submitted comments in responding to all

3428
02:35:54,601 --> 02:35:55,601
of those.

3429
02:35:55,601 --> 02:35:57,601
there are no issues raised in that that

3430
02:35:57,601 --> 02:36:00,601
would undermine the analysis of the

3431
02:36:00,601 --> 02:36:02,601
e.I.r.

3432
02:36:02,601 --> 02:36:05,601
looking, however, at the localized

3433
02:36:05,601 --> 02:36:09,601
flooding issue, your staff had asked us

3434
02:36:09,601 --> 02:36:11,601
was the not just to have a project that

3435
02:36:11,601 --> 02:36:13,601
met the typical requirements of don't

3436
02:36:13,601 --> 02:36:17,201
make things worse post development and

3437
02:36:17,601 --> 02:36:18,601
predevelopment.

3438
02:36:18,601 --> 02:36:20,601
our idea was to improve the situation

3439
02:36:20,601 --> 02:36:22,601
for our neighbors and so the design of

3440
02:36:22,601 --> 02:36:25,601
the project including the stormwater

3441
02:36:25,601 --> 02:36:28,541
detention basin in the northwest corner

3442
02:36:28,541 --> 02:36:30,541
where the shed flows to will be able to

3443
02:36:30,541 --> 02:36:34,141
detain flows during heavy storm events

3444
02:36:34,541 --> 02:36:38,141
that will improve situations on eckerman

3445
02:36:39,541 --> 02:36:40,541
road.

3446
02:36:40,541 --> 02:36:41,541
this is a critical issue for the project

3447
02:36:41,541 --> 02:36:45,141
to address and an existing situation

3448
02:36:45,541 --> 02:36:47,541
created by others.

3449
02:36:47,541 --> 02:36:51,541
the staff report has done a good job

3450
02:36:51,541 --> 02:36:54,541
south placer fire district confirmed

3451
02:36:55,541 --> 02:36:58,541
both in writing, we have copies of the

3452
02:36:58,541 --> 02:37:02,141
letter that eckerman road satisfies the

3453
02:37:07,541 --> 02:37:09,541
requirements and the fire district has

3454
02:37:09,541 --> 02:37:12,541
full rights to continue using eckerman

3455
02:37:12,541 --> 02:37:17,541
road as an eba route as it has for

3456
02:37:17,541 --> 02:37:18,541
decades.

3457
02:37:18,541 --> 02:37:19,541
that's the secondary route.

3458
02:37:19,541 --> 02:37:22,541
primary access is on sierra college

3459
02:37:22,541 --> 02:37:23,541
boulevard.

3460
02:37:23,541 --> 02:37:25,941
not on eckerman road.

3461
02:37:31,481 --> 02:37:33,481
there are a number of comments from the

3462
02:37:33,481 --> 02:37:36,481
public that they face client enrollment

3463
02:37:36,481 --> 02:37:37,481
for a number of years.

3464
02:37:37,481 --> 02:37:40,481
the students from families that will

3465
02:37:40,481 --> 02:37:42,481
live in the project will help alleviate

3466
02:37:42,481 --> 02:37:44,881
that declining enrollment issue.

3467
02:37:45,481 --> 02:37:48,481
young families who cannot afford 800,000

3468
02:37:50,481 --> 02:37:53,481
or million dollar homes or simply are

3469
02:37:53,481 --> 02:37:57,810
not interested in buying 50 and 60 and

3470
02:37:57,481 --> 02:38:00,481
40-year-old homes and trying to upgrade

3471
02:38:00,481 --> 02:38:02,481
them.

3472
02:38:02,481 --> 02:38:04,481
young families want to look at energy

3473
02:38:04,481 --> 02:38:07,481
efficient homes with new appliances, the

3474
02:38:07,481 --> 02:38:09,481
greatest technology and new home designs

3475
02:38:09,481 --> 02:38:13,481
rather than trying to redo wiring on a

3476
02:38:13,481 --> 02:38:15,481
60-year-old home.

3477
02:38:15,481 --> 02:38:19,481
as for traffic, as the e.I.r. Showed

3478
02:38:19,481 --> 02:38:22,481
there are no significant impacts from

3479
02:38:22,481 --> 02:38:23,481
the project.

3480
02:38:23,481 --> 02:38:25,481
there was a weaving analysis done and

3481
02:38:25,481 --> 02:38:28,421
there are no issues from a traffic

3482
02:38:28,421 --> 02:38:30,421
perspective adopted by the board.

3483
02:38:30,421 --> 02:38:32,421
as for the proposed changes for the

3484
02:38:32,421 --> 02:38:34,421
community plan, typically with every

3485
02:38:34,421 --> 02:38:36,421
community plan in placer county and

3486
02:38:36,421 --> 02:38:39,421
throughout the greater sacramento region

3487
02:38:39,421 --> 02:38:41,421
and throughout the state, when a

3488
02:38:41,421 --> 02:38:42,421
community plan is updated, you look at

3489
02:38:42,421 --> 02:38:45,421
both the land use plan and policies.

3490
02:38:45,421 --> 02:38:47,421
you update both.

3491
02:38:47,421 --> 02:38:49,421
that's the typical way of doing things.

3492
02:38:49,421 --> 02:38:51,421
if the granite bay community plan

3493
02:38:51,421 --> 02:38:53,421
update, that was not the case.

3494
02:38:53,421 --> 02:38:55,421
the board decided that just look at

3495
02:38:55,421 --> 02:38:57,421
policies and instead, individual

3496
02:38:57,421 --> 02:38:59,421
projects will have to come through on

3497
02:38:59,421 --> 02:39:00,421
their nickel.

3498
02:39:00,421 --> 02:39:02,421
they'll have to process an application

3499
02:39:02,421 --> 02:39:04,421
and pay for the environmental review of

3500
02:39:04,421 --> 02:39:06,421
that rather than comprehensively looking

3501
02:39:06,421 --> 02:39:09,421
at various requested changes that might

3502
02:39:09,421 --> 02:39:10,421
come in.

3503
02:39:10,421 --> 02:39:15,221
that was a sharp deviation from what the

3504
02:39:15,421 --> 02:39:16,421
county has always done.

3505
02:39:16,421 --> 02:39:19,421
here we are in an area of the count

3506
02:39:19,421 --> 02:39:21,421
which where you have a broad range of

3507
02:39:21,421 --> 02:39:23,421
lot sizes including the lot sizes we're

3508
02:39:23,421 --> 02:39:24,421
proposing to you today.

3509
02:39:24,421 --> 02:39:27,361
on a major transportation corridor.

3510
02:39:27,361 --> 02:39:30,961
this is the beltway between 80 and 50

3511
02:39:31,361 --> 02:39:34,361
hazel avenue and college boulevard --

3512
02:39:34,361 --> 02:39:37,961
sierra college boulevard is the beltway.

3513
02:39:38,361 --> 02:39:39,361
it has infrastructure available in terms

3514
02:39:39,361 --> 02:39:41,761
of sewer and water.

3515
02:39:45,361 --> 02:39:47,361
hence, we have the letter from executive

3516
02:39:47,361 --> 02:39:50,361
director mike mckeever to that very

3517
02:39:50,361 --> 02:39:52,361
issue.

3518
02:39:52,361 --> 02:39:55,361
basically infill properties using assets

3519
02:39:55,361 --> 02:39:57,361
on transportation corridors with

3520
02:39:57,361 --> 02:40:00,361
provision of housing choices providing

3521
02:40:02,361 --> 02:40:04,361
recreational amenities and mix of uses

3522
02:40:04,361 --> 02:40:06,361
on the site and that's what you have

3523
02:40:06,361 --> 02:40:08,361
before you today.

3524
02:40:10,361 --> 02:40:11,361
there was a comment raised by the

3525
02:40:11,361 --> 02:40:13,361
planning commission, I didn't see

3526
02:40:13,361 --> 02:40:15,361
anything in the staff report, but there

3527
02:40:15,361 --> 02:40:19,361
are comments raise that we have we have

3528
02:40:19,361 --> 02:40:23,361
400-acres of the mdr and don't need any

3529
02:40:23,361 --> 02:40:24,361
more.

3530
02:40:24,361 --> 02:40:25,361
that is irrelevant to the application

3531
02:40:25,361 --> 02:40:26,361
before you.

3532
02:40:26,361 --> 02:40:28,361
those 400-acres are developed.

3533
02:40:28,361 --> 02:40:29,361
if you're looking at the issue that you

3534
02:40:29,361 --> 02:40:32,961
have mdr property already there isn't

3535
02:40:33,361 --> 02:40:35,361
any left in granite bay and haven't

3536
02:40:35,361 --> 02:40:36,361
been.

3537
02:40:36,361 --> 02:40:40,361
from a land use planning perspective,on

3538
02:40:40,361 --> 02:40:43,361
the transportation corridor with all

3539
02:40:44,361 --> 02:40:47,361
site amenities, this sound land use

3540
02:40:47,361 --> 02:40:49,361
planning as you heard from your planning

3541
02:40:49,361 --> 02:40:50,361
staff.

3542
02:40:50,361 --> 02:40:53,361
when you compare that with a local long

3543
02:40:53,361 --> 02:40:56,361
time resident known for building in the

3544
02:40:56,361 --> 02:40:58,361
area, we believe the decision before you

3545
02:40:58,361 --> 02:40:59,361
is an easy one.

3546
02:40:59,361 --> 02:41:02,361
nearly 1500 granite bay residents who

3547
02:41:03,361 --> 02:41:05,361
signed an interest page or on line

3548
02:41:05,361 --> 02:41:07,361
petition in support of the project would

3549
02:41:07,361 --> 02:41:08,361
agree.

3550
02:41:08,361 --> 02:41:11,961
from an feasibility perspective, we took

3551
02:41:12,361 --> 02:41:15,361
an economic analysis of the project by a

3552
02:41:15,361 --> 02:41:18,961
well-respected economist so see if it

3553
02:41:20,361 --> 02:41:22,361
compared and how they ranked relative to

3554
02:41:22,361 --> 02:41:23,361
economic feasibility.

3555
02:41:23,361 --> 02:41:26,301
that was submitted to you last week.

3556
02:41:26,301 --> 02:41:29,301
just looking at the combined off-site

3557
02:41:29,301 --> 02:41:31,301
infrastructure cost which is nearly

3558
02:41:31,301 --> 02:41:34,901
$1.2 million for sewer whether you do 15

3559
02:41:36,301 --> 02:41:41,101
lots for 56 or 94 lots, and you add in

3560
02:41:41,301 --> 02:41:43,301
the on site costs ranging from

3561
02:41:43,301 --> 02:41:46,301
$5.4 million fending on the alternative,

3562
02:41:47,301 --> 02:41:50,901
the cost her unit, including home

3563
02:41:53,301 --> 02:41:55,301
development but subdivision costs is

3564
02:41:55,301 --> 02:41:58,901
three times higher under the existing

3565
02:41:59,301 --> 02:42:02,301
zoning alternative and 50% higher for

3566
02:42:02,301 --> 02:42:04,301
the [inaudible]

3567
02:42:04,301 --> 02:42:07,301
when you look at all costs and compare

3568
02:42:07,301 --> 02:42:10,301
it to the market price given market

3569
02:42:10,301 --> 02:42:13,301
prices in granite bay, 16-lot

3570
02:42:13,301 --> 02:42:16,901
alternative, would produce a loss of

3571
02:42:18,301 --> 02:42:20,301
over half a million dollars per lot.

3572
02:42:20,301 --> 02:42:23,301
the 400 lot subdivision is over $55,000

3573
02:42:23,301 --> 02:42:24,301
a lot.

3574
02:42:24,301 --> 02:42:28,241
I may not be the brightest bulb in the

3575
02:42:28,241 --> 02:42:31,841
chandelier, but banks don't loan money

3576
02:42:32,241 --> 02:42:34,241
to projects that show losses on a

3577
02:42:34,241 --> 02:42:35,241
performa.

3578
02:42:35,241 --> 02:42:37,241
that project can be built.

3579
02:42:37,241 --> 02:42:40,241
it's at the level that is economically

3580
02:42:40,241 --> 02:42:41,241
feasible if the marketplace.

3581
02:42:41,241 --> 02:42:44,241
with that our project team will answer

3582
02:42:44,241 --> 02:42:47,241
any questions that the board may have.

3583
02:42:47,241 --> 02:42:48,241
we would ask mr. Chairman at the end of

3584
02:42:48,241 --> 02:42:51,241
the public hearing if there are comments

3585
02:42:51,241 --> 02:42:53,241
directed to us that we'd be given the

3586
02:42:53,241 --> 02:42:55,241
opportunity to address those comments or

3587
02:42:55,241 --> 02:42:57,241
questions that the board might have.

3588
02:42:57,241 --> 02:42:59,241
after you've concluded your

3589
02:42:59,241 --> 02:43:02,241
deliberations we request that you in

3590
02:43:02,241 --> 02:43:05,841
taking actions that you approve the

3591
02:43:06,241 --> 02:43:08,241
project presented to you and as

3592
02:43:08,241 --> 02:43:09,241
positioned by the staff and recommended

3593
02:43:09,241 --> 02:43:12,241
by approval by a majority of the

3594
02:43:12,241 --> 02:43:13,241
planning commission.

3595
02:43:13,241 --> 02:43:14,241
thank you mr. Chairman.

3596
02:43:14,241 --> 02:43:15,241
>> thank you.

3597
02:43:15,241 --> 02:43:17,241
are there any questions, kirk?

3598
02:43:17,241 --> 02:43:20,241
>> george, a question for you.

3599
02:43:20,241 --> 02:43:24,441
mark alluded to the fact that in 2012

3600
02:43:25,241 --> 02:43:28,181
this board updated the policies but did

3601
02:43:28,181 --> 02:43:29,181
not look at the land use.

3602
02:43:29,181 --> 02:43:32,181
in reviewing this project, you reviewed

3603
02:43:32,181 --> 02:43:34,181
it against the updated adopted policies

3604
02:43:34,181 --> 02:43:36,181
from the 2012 adoption?

3605
02:43:38,181 --> 02:43:42,381
>> there is an entire section in the

3606
02:43:43,181 --> 02:43:45,181
draft e.I.r. That speaks to it.

3607
02:43:45,181 --> 02:43:48,181
there are 20 policies germane to this

3608
02:43:48,181 --> 02:43:50,181
and it's consistent with 19.

3609
02:43:50,181 --> 02:43:53,181
the one that is not consistent with as I

3610
02:43:53,181 --> 02:43:54,181
was talking about the variances.

3611
02:43:54,181 --> 02:43:57,181
there is a policy in the granite bay

3612
02:43:57,181 --> 02:43:59,181
community plan that says new

3613
02:43:59,181 --> 02:44:01,181
subdivisions being proposed should not

3614
02:44:01,181 --> 02:44:04,181
need variances for their creation.

3615
02:44:05,181 --> 02:44:07,181
the reason they're asking for variances

3616
02:44:07,181 --> 02:44:11,181
in this case is to create a more quality

3617
02:44:11,181 --> 02:44:12,181
product for the surrounding property

3618
02:44:12,181 --> 02:44:13,181
owners.

3619
02:44:13,181 --> 02:44:15,181
if the variance was taken out of the

3620
02:44:15,181 --> 02:44:18,181
project, I think the only difference

3621
02:44:18,181 --> 02:44:20,181
would be in the center where you see the

3622
02:44:20,181 --> 02:44:23,181
smaller lots is everything would go up

3623
02:44:23,181 --> 02:44:25,181
to two storeys and create more of an

3624
02:44:25,181 --> 02:44:26,121
island effect.

3625
02:44:26,121 --> 02:44:29,121
inconsistent, technically yes, but for

3626
02:44:30,121 --> 02:44:34,121
all the right reasons, I would say yes

3627
02:44:34,121 --> 02:44:36,121
and staff supported it because it made a

3628
02:44:36,121 --> 02:44:38,121
better project with that variance in

3629
02:44:38,121 --> 02:44:39,121
place.

3630
02:44:39,121 --> 02:44:40,121
>> that was the only policy you found

3631
02:44:40,121 --> 02:44:43,121
inconsistent with the policies that we

3632
02:44:43,121 --> 02:44:46,121
adopted in 2012 you found the budget to

3633
02:44:46,121 --> 02:44:49,121
be consistent with the other policies?

3634
02:44:49,121 --> 02:44:51,121
>> yes.

3635
02:44:51,121 --> 02:44:52,121
>> supervisor uhler: thank you.

3636
02:44:52,121 --> 02:44:54,121
>> questions and comments.

3637
02:44:55,121 --> 02:44:57,121
granite bay community plan originally

3638
02:44:57,121 --> 02:44:59,521
was adopted in '88?

3639
02:45:00,121 --> 02:45:02,121
>> '89.

3640
02:45:03,121 --> 02:45:04,121
>> supervisor weygandt: when did the

3641
02:45:04,121 --> 02:45:06,121
roseville annexation occur?

3642
02:45:07,121 --> 02:45:08,121
>> that I don't know.

3643
02:45:08,121 --> 02:45:11,721
>> the first annexation was in 1985 west

3644
02:45:12,121 --> 02:45:14,521
of sierra college boulevard.

3645
02:45:15,121 --> 02:45:17,121
the annexation of the eastern portion

3646
02:45:17,121 --> 02:45:21,321
has mr. Uhler mentioned east of sierra

3647
02:45:22,121 --> 02:45:24,521
college boulevard includes hillsborough,

3648
02:45:25,121 --> 02:45:28,721
arclywoods and east ridge occurred in

3649
02:45:29,610 --> 02:45:31,610
1988 -- beginning of 1989.

3650
02:45:37,610 --> 02:45:39,610
>> supervisor weygandt: jim.

3651
02:45:40,610 --> 02:45:41,610
>> supervisor holmes: what are

3652
02:45:41,610 --> 02:45:43,461
accommodations for affordable housing?

3653
02:45:44,610 --> 02:45:46,610
>> $44,000 per residential building

3654
02:45:48,610 --> 02:45:50,610
permit or to put in six affordable

3655
02:45:50,610 --> 02:45:51,610
housing units.

3656
02:45:51,610 --> 02:45:55,861
it's either a fee of $240,000 or to have

3657
02:45:56,610 --> 02:45:58,610
the option of building six units.

3658
02:45:58,610 --> 02:46:00,610
that's in condition 102.

3659
02:46:01,610 --> 02:46:02,610
>> thank you.

3660
02:46:02,610 --> 02:46:04,610
>> supervisor montgomery: rough

3661
02:46:08,610 --> 02:46:11,610
estimate, what would it cost to build

3662
02:46:11,610 --> 02:46:13,610
six affordable housing units?

3663
02:46:13,610 --> 02:46:16,661
>> more than 240, I would guess, if

3664
02:46:17,610 --> 02:46:20,610
that's what you're asking me.

3665
02:46:21,610 --> 02:46:22,610
>> supervisor montgomery: I'm trying

3666
02:46:22,610 --> 02:46:24,610
to understand the feasibility of

3667
02:46:24,610 --> 02:46:26,610
actually constructing something.

3668
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:30,100
it's something we discuss as a board

3669
02:46:30,100 --> 02:46:33,100
about the fees and what they really

3670
02:46:33,100 --> 02:46:37,100
are -- in lieu fees and what they are in

3671
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:39,100
getting us to our goal for affordable

3672
02:46:39,100 --> 02:46:41,100
housing.

3673
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:43,100
>> staff is aware and doing an

3674
02:46:43,100 --> 02:46:46,100
in-between -- where the board hasn't

3675
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:49,601
actually adopted the new policy, so

3676
02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:53,100
we're working off sort of what we have

3677
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:54,100
in effect at this time.

3678
02:46:54,100 --> 02:46:56,100
>> supervisor montgomery: but the

3679
02:46:56,100 --> 02:46:59,100
board could take an action requiring the

3680
02:46:59,100 --> 02:47:01,100
construction.

3681
02:47:01,100 --> 02:47:03,100
>> whatever pleases you.

3682
02:47:03,100 --> 02:47:04,100
>> supervisor montgomery: whatever

3683
02:47:04,100 --> 02:47:05,100
pleases me?

3684
02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:08,100
I never heard anybody say that.

3685
02:47:08,100 --> 02:47:10,100
>> that didn't sound right.

3686
02:47:10,100 --> 02:47:11,100
>> supervisor montgomery: I'll take

3687
02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:12,100
it.

3688
02:47:12,100 --> 02:47:14,401
>> supervisor uhler: just curious.

3689
02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:18,100
the recent projects that have been

3690
02:47:18,100 --> 02:47:21,100
before us is this affordable housing

3691
02:47:21,100 --> 02:47:25,801
consideration of the feel or the on site

3692
02:47:25,941 --> 02:47:28,341
deed restrictive affordable housing.

3693
02:47:28,941 --> 02:47:31,941
that option has been put?

3694
02:47:31,941 --> 02:47:34,941
>> the most recent project that you guys

3695
02:47:34,941 --> 02:47:36,941
considered down here on the west slope

3696
02:47:36,941 --> 02:47:38,941
was the victor ranch project.

3697
02:47:38,941 --> 02:47:43,141
that was the same $400,000 for the unit

3698
02:47:44,941 --> 02:47:45,941
count.

3699
02:47:45,941 --> 02:47:46,941
the obligation is to meet the general

3700
02:47:46,941 --> 02:47:49,941
plan requirement is to meet the 10%

3701
02:47:49,941 --> 02:47:51,941
affordable housing obligation.

3702
02:47:51,941 --> 02:47:53,941
that's what the six units does.

3703
02:47:53,941 --> 02:47:57,941
the way the condition is build on site

3704
02:47:57,941 --> 02:47:59,941
or pay the in lieu fee.

3705
02:47:59,941 --> 02:48:00,941
>> supervisor uhler: what you're

3706
02:48:00,941 --> 02:48:04,941
saying is that the six on site would be

3707
02:48:04,941 --> 02:48:07,941
six of the homes that are being proposed

3708
02:48:07,941 --> 02:48:08,941
but they would have to be deed

3709
02:48:08,941 --> 02:48:11,341
restricted, is that correct?

3710
02:48:12,941 --> 02:48:13,941
>> right.

3711
02:48:13,941 --> 02:48:14,941
>> supervisor uhler: what has been for

3712
02:48:14,941 --> 02:48:17,941
instance recently with what we're

3713
02:48:17,941 --> 02:48:19,941
experiencing up in martis valley?

3714
02:48:19,941 --> 02:48:24,741
what has been the success of the deed

3715
02:48:25,881 --> 02:48:29,481
restricted homes versus what is staff's

3716
02:48:29,881 --> 02:48:30,881
recommendation.

3717
02:48:30,881 --> 02:48:32,881
>> I may have a housing specialist in

3718
02:48:32,881 --> 02:48:36,881
the room, but success down in the west

3719
02:48:36,881 --> 02:48:38,881
slope, you know, probably not as

3720
02:48:38,881 --> 02:48:39,881
successful.

3721
02:48:39,881 --> 02:48:42,281
>> supervisor uhler: thank you.

3722
02:48:43,881 --> 02:48:44,881
>> supervisor montgomery: did we not

3723
02:48:44,881 --> 02:48:46,881
just take an action as a board to

3724
02:48:46,881 --> 02:48:48,881
require on site construction in the

3725
02:48:48,881 --> 02:48:51,281
martis valley west project?

3726
02:48:51,881 --> 02:48:52,881
>> yes, we did.

3727
02:48:52,881 --> 02:48:55,881
>> on a project that was 700-acres?

3728
02:48:55,881 --> 02:48:57,881
>> supervisor montgomery: I don't

3729
02:48:57,881 --> 02:49:01,881
think the acreage is germane to the

3730
02:49:01,881 --> 02:49:02,881
conversation.

3731
02:49:02,881 --> 02:49:05,881
>> sure it is if we're talking about a

3732
02:49:05,881 --> 02:49:09,481
affordable housing in area that is

3733
02:49:09,881 --> 02:49:12,281
separate distinct and appropriate.

3734
02:49:16,881 --> 02:49:18,881
saying yes we can build on site.

3735
02:49:18,881 --> 02:49:20,881
>> supervisor montgomery: I see all

3736
02:49:20,881 --> 02:49:21,881
sorts of appropriate sites up there.

3737
02:49:21,881 --> 02:49:23,881
>> supervisor weygandt: jim.

3738
02:49:24,881 --> 02:49:27,821
>> supervisor holmes: george, did you

3739
02:49:27,821 --> 02:49:29,821
say there are apartments in the

3740
02:49:29,821 --> 02:49:30,821
surrounding area?

3741
02:49:30,821 --> 02:49:33,821
>> no, I was talking -- generally

3742
02:49:33,821 --> 02:49:36,821
referencing the area as you go toward

3743
02:49:36,821 --> 02:49:39,821
sierra college boulevard eureka road.

3744
02:49:41,821 --> 02:49:44,221
roseville has high density.

3745
02:49:44,821 --> 02:49:47,221
25 units to the acre.

3746
02:49:54,821 --> 02:49:55,821
>> supervisor weygandt: I'm going to

3747
02:49:55,821 --> 02:49:57,821
check in with my colleagues as to how we

3748
02:49:57,821 --> 02:49:58,821
do this.

3749
02:49:58,821 --> 02:50:00,821
first of all, I think it sounds like

3750
02:50:00,821 --> 02:50:01,821
most everybody is ahead of me on this

3751
02:50:01,821 --> 02:50:03,821
issue, but the way we're going to do

3752
02:50:03,821 --> 02:50:07,821
public hearing is that people will have

3753
02:50:07,821 --> 02:50:10,821
cards put in groups a lot like flying

3754
02:50:10,821 --> 02:50:12,821
southwest airlines.

3755
02:50:12,821 --> 02:50:16,821
they're going to line up -- line up

3756
02:50:16,821 --> 02:50:17,821
here.

3757
02:50:17,821 --> 02:50:20,821
when your group is called, you'll be

3758
02:50:20,821 --> 02:50:25,621
available to move on up to the podium

3759
02:50:27,821 --> 02:50:29,821
and state your name for the record.

3760
02:50:29,821 --> 02:50:35,221
anything else I need to say? So in might

3761
02:50:35,821 --> 02:50:37,821
what have sounds like a number of people

3762
02:50:37,821 --> 02:50:41,821
who would like to testify, the board, I

3763
02:50:41,821 --> 02:50:44,821
think we'll want to break for lunch and

3764
02:50:44,821 --> 02:50:48,421
I'm thinking that should be about 12:30.

3765
02:50:51,821 --> 02:50:54,821
I think we should go and take public

3766
02:50:54,821 --> 02:50:58,421
testimony until 12:30 and break for half

3767
02:50:59,821 --> 02:51:02,821
an hour and reconvene the public

3768
02:51:02,821 --> 02:51:03,821
hearing.

3769
02:51:03,821 --> 02:51:04,821
we apologize for the inconvenience.

3770
02:51:04,821 --> 02:51:08,821
we're here all day and we're not

3771
02:51:08,821 --> 02:51:09,821
immortal.

3772
02:51:09,821 --> 02:51:11,821
>> any chance to take the temperature of

3773
02:51:11,821 --> 02:51:15,821
the room at 12:30 to see how many folks

3774
02:51:15,821 --> 02:51:16,821
we have?

3775
02:51:16,821 --> 02:51:18,821
>> supervisor weygandt: we can if

3776
02:51:18,821 --> 02:51:21,821
that's the desire of the board.

3777
02:51:21,821 --> 02:51:23,821
I want to make sure if that's the

3778
02:51:23,821 --> 02:51:25,761
expectations of the folks testifying are

3779
02:51:25,761 --> 02:51:27,761
clear so we didn't have any disruption

3780
02:51:27,761 --> 02:51:29,761
from that.

3781
02:51:29,761 --> 02:51:31,761
all right.

3782
02:51:31,761 --> 02:51:32,761
group one.

3783
02:51:32,761 --> 02:51:36,361
please line up on my left.

3784
02:51:37,761 --> 02:51:39,761
over here against the wall and give your

3785
02:51:39,761 --> 02:51:41,761
card to our clerk of the board and come

3786
02:51:41,761 --> 02:51:44,761
up to the podium and state your name for

3787
02:51:44,761 --> 02:51:45,761
the record.

3788
02:51:45,761 --> 02:51:48,161
>> hello, I'm victor becker.

3789
02:52:16,761 --> 02:52:19,761
I'm a member of the granite bay

3790
02:52:19,761 --> 02:52:23,761
community and a neighbor to the project.

3791
02:52:23,761 --> 02:52:26,701
I'm requesting for than three minutes,

3792
02:52:26,701 --> 02:52:28,701
please, if you can give me five or six

3793
02:52:28,701 --> 02:52:29,701
minutes.

3794
02:52:29,701 --> 02:52:30,701
this project has been going on for a

3795
02:52:30,701 --> 02:52:31,701
long time.

3796
02:52:31,701 --> 02:52:34,701
>> supervisor weygandt: I beg your

3797
02:52:34,701 --> 02:52:35,701
pardon?

3798
02:52:35,701 --> 02:52:39,301
>> can I request five minutes? Thank

3799
02:52:41,701 --> 02:52:44,701
you very much for giving us a chance to

3800
02:52:44,701 --> 02:52:45,701
talk about this project.

3801
02:52:45,701 --> 02:52:46,701
I wanted to clear out some

3802
02:52:46,701 --> 02:52:48,701
misunderstanding in the beginning when

3803
02:52:48,701 --> 02:52:50,701
we talk about what could have happened

3804
02:52:50,701 --> 02:52:53,701
in the past what should we have done.

3805
02:52:53,701 --> 02:52:54,701
this is talk in a vacuum.

3806
02:52:54,701 --> 02:52:59,501
this talk doesn't apply to our real life

3807
02:52:59,701 --> 02:53:00,701
or issues.

3808
02:53:00,701 --> 02:53:03,701
if you want to talk like this, you could

3809
02:53:03,701 --> 02:53:07,901
have claimed all the area of eminent

3810
02:53:09,701 --> 02:53:11,701
domain.

3811
02:53:11,701 --> 02:53:13,701
this project is spearheading the

3812
02:53:13,701 --> 02:53:18,501
summation of granite bay and we love it.

3813
02:53:22,701 --> 02:53:25,641
clearly we want to maintain the land use

3814
02:53:25,641 --> 02:53:28,641
section in it as is because we want to

3815
02:53:28,641 --> 02:53:30,641
maintain the rural and agricultural

3816
02:53:30,641 --> 02:53:33,641
character of granite bay not because it

3817
02:53:33,641 --> 02:53:35,641
was a mistake.

3818
02:53:36,641 --> 02:53:39,641
you are quoted in one newspaper about

3819
02:53:39,641 --> 02:53:42,641
piecemeal development in one plan to

3820
02:53:42,641 --> 02:53:45,641
rezone and submit our community one by

3821
02:53:45,641 --> 02:53:46,641
one.

3822
02:53:46,641 --> 02:53:47,641
that's not a plan.

3823
02:53:47,641 --> 02:53:48,641
that is chaos.

3824
02:53:48,641 --> 02:53:50,641
to request all this variances and

3825
02:53:50,641 --> 02:53:53,641
general plan amendments and granite bay

3826
02:53:53,641 --> 02:53:55,641
community amendments is not a sign of

3827
02:53:55,641 --> 02:53:58,641
quality, it's a sign of futurity.

3828
02:53:58,641 --> 02:54:00,641
this is a sub quality project.

3829
02:54:00,641 --> 02:54:02,641
the only way to go forward is to request

3830
02:54:02,641 --> 02:54:05,641
so many variances and amendments.

3831
02:54:05,641 --> 02:54:09,841
a quick note about e.I.r.

3832
02:54:10,641 --> 02:54:13,641
there are over 47 resonses to --

3833
02:54:13,641 --> 02:54:15,641
responses to comments from citizens

3834
02:54:15,641 --> 02:54:17,641
saying it's up to the board of

3835
02:54:17,641 --> 02:54:18,641
supervisors to decide.

3836
02:54:18,641 --> 02:54:20,641
they have no answer.

3837
02:54:20,641 --> 02:54:23,641
for this citizens concerns and comments

3838
02:54:23,641 --> 02:54:25,581
which means two things.

3839
02:54:25,581 --> 02:54:29,581
first, e.I.r. Product is worthless.

3840
02:54:29,581 --> 02:54:33,581
second, that this will project -- this

3841
02:54:33,581 --> 02:54:35,581
project creates problems.

3842
02:54:35,581 --> 02:54:37,581
the next day after the planning

3843
02:54:37,581 --> 02:54:40,581
commission approved in august 25th

3844
02:54:41,581 --> 02:54:43,581
recommended for approval this project,

3845
02:54:43,581 --> 02:54:47,581
there were a major accident and sierra

3846
02:54:47,581 --> 02:54:49,981
college and old auburn.

3847
02:54:50,581 --> 02:54:54,581
the first time I walked, this has been

3848
02:54:54,581 --> 02:54:55,581
happening frequently.

3849
02:54:55,581 --> 02:54:58,581
this time I take a picture and I tried

3850
02:54:58,581 --> 02:55:00,581
to get information from the city of

3851
02:55:00,581 --> 02:55:02,581
roseville and they send me this e-mail

3852
02:55:02,581 --> 02:55:05,581
sighting eight accidents happened over

3853
02:55:05,581 --> 02:55:07,581
the last 12 months alone.

3854
02:55:07,581 --> 02:55:12,381
that doesn't count the -- that does not

3855
02:55:12,581 --> 02:55:14,581
count collisions under a thousand

3856
02:55:14,581 --> 02:55:15,581
dollars.

3857
02:55:15,581 --> 02:55:18,581
this intersection is suffering from

3858
02:55:18,581 --> 02:55:19,581
traffic.

3859
02:55:19,581 --> 02:55:22,581
and the big problem is that there are

3860
02:55:22,581 --> 02:55:24,581
two other projects that have been

3861
02:55:24,581 --> 02:55:26,521
recommended for rejoining in the same

3862
02:55:26,521 --> 02:55:28,521
intersection and there is no collective.

3863
02:55:28,521 --> 02:55:31,521
no human impact study has been done.

3864
02:55:31,521 --> 02:55:35,521
this data is not included in the e.I.r.

3865
02:55:35,521 --> 02:55:37,521
it's missing.

3866
02:55:37,521 --> 02:55:39,921
we any it's intentional.

3867
02:55:41,521 --> 02:55:43,521
most of the documents talk about six

3868
02:55:43,521 --> 02:55:44,521
parcels.

3869
02:55:44,521 --> 02:55:47,521
where there are in fact seven parcels

3870
02:55:47,521 --> 02:55:51,521
which means e.I.r. Should have been

3871
02:55:51,521 --> 02:55:52,521
corrected and circulated.

3872
02:55:52,521 --> 02:55:56,521
the water quality report for the water

3873
02:55:56,521 --> 02:55:59,521
drains from all 16-acres could be

3874
02:55:59,521 --> 02:56:01,921
drained from one property.

3875
02:56:02,521 --> 02:56:05,521
and the water quality report is missing.

3876
02:56:05,521 --> 02:56:07,521
what the people fail to state is that

3877
02:56:07,521 --> 02:56:10,521
all the contiguous properties from

3878
02:56:11,521 --> 02:56:15,521
properties from four sides are one acre

3879
02:56:15,521 --> 02:56:16,521
plus.

3880
02:56:16,521 --> 02:56:18,521
they're talking about -- more than

3881
02:56:18,521 --> 02:56:20,521
300 feet away.

3882
02:56:20,521 --> 02:56:23,521
they take it as a pint of reference

3883
02:56:23,521 --> 02:56:26,461
where you have never sent them letters

3884
02:56:26,461 --> 02:56:29,461
of notified them about these hearings.

3885
02:56:29,461 --> 02:56:32,461
they've taken them at the point of

3886
02:56:32,461 --> 02:56:33,461
reference.

3887
02:56:33,461 --> 02:56:36,461
again, this project does not -- there

3888
02:56:36,461 --> 02:56:38,461
are other concerns that I'd like to talk

3889
02:56:38,461 --> 02:56:39,461
about.

3890
02:56:39,461 --> 02:56:41,461
>> supervisor weygandt: if you could

3891
02:56:41,461 --> 02:56:42,461
wrap up your comments.

3892
02:56:42,461 --> 02:56:43,461
>> okay.

3893
02:56:43,461 --> 02:56:44,461
I will.

3894
02:56:44,461 --> 02:56:45,461
the biggest concern is when you approve

3895
02:56:45,461 --> 02:56:49,461
a prompt like this, you're rewarding bad

3896
02:56:49,461 --> 02:56:51,461
developers and punishing good developers

3897
02:56:51,461 --> 02:56:53,461
in the same intersection.

3898
02:56:53,461 --> 02:56:56,461
there are three projects that follow the

3899
02:56:56,461 --> 02:56:59,461
zoning and start around the same time in

3900
02:56:59,461 --> 02:57:00,461
2014.

3901
02:57:00,461 --> 02:57:03,461
we didn't hear about them because they

3902
02:57:03,461 --> 02:57:05,461
submitted the plans to be approved and

3903
02:57:05,461 --> 02:57:07,461
they're selling their homes and making

3904
02:57:07,461 --> 02:57:08,461
profit.

3905
02:57:08,461 --> 02:57:11,461
this project, good projects are

3906
02:57:12,461 --> 02:57:15,461
woodbridge estates building seven homes

3907
02:57:15,461 --> 02:57:16,461
on 10-acres.

3908
02:57:16,461 --> 02:57:19,461
sierra college, rockwood project they're

3909
02:57:21,461 --> 02:57:25,610
all making money, following the zoning,

3910
02:57:25,401 --> 02:57:29,100
not coming and buying cheap agricultural

3911
02:57:29,401 --> 02:57:30,401
land.

3912
02:57:30,401 --> 02:57:31,401
>> supervisor weygandt: you have to

3913
02:57:31,401 --> 02:57:32,401
wrap up your comments.

3914
02:57:32,401 --> 02:57:34,401
>> just that to reward developers to

3915
02:57:34,401 --> 02:57:38,401
taking a gamble and ruining our life and

3916
02:57:38,401 --> 02:57:40,401
endangering the safety of us because

3917
02:57:40,401 --> 02:57:42,401
traffic would be horrible.

3918
02:57:42,401 --> 02:57:46,401
by the way, we can send you a list of 12

3919
02:57:46,401 --> 02:57:47,401
violations of this project.

3920
02:57:47,401 --> 02:57:49,401
the most important violation is that

3921
02:57:49,401 --> 02:57:52,401
granite bay plan states clearly that no

3922
02:57:52,401 --> 02:57:56,100
subdivision should have a main entrance

3923
02:57:56,401 --> 02:57:59,401
on a main road like sierra college.

3924
02:57:59,401 --> 02:58:02,401
that's specific because of the traffic

3925
02:58:02,401 --> 02:58:03,401
concern.

3926
02:58:03,401 --> 02:58:04,401
thank you, very much.

3927
02:58:04,401 --> 02:58:05,401
>> supervisor weygandt: thank you.

3928
02:58:05,401 --> 02:58:07,401
>> hello.

3929
02:58:12,401 --> 02:58:15,401
my name is jane avery.

3930
02:58:16,401 --> 02:58:20,401
the park at granite bay is requesting a

3931
02:58:20,401 --> 02:58:21,401
zoning change and amendment to the

3932
02:58:21,401 --> 02:58:23,401
community plan and a general plan

3933
02:58:23,401 --> 02:58:26,401
amendment for the 50% lot coverage.

3934
02:58:27,341 --> 02:58:28,341
for a variance.

3935
02:58:28,341 --> 02:58:32,541
if this project was consistent with our

3936
02:58:33,341 --> 02:58:36,341
granite bay community plan, none of this

3937
02:58:36,341 --> 02:58:38,341
would be necessary.

3938
02:58:38,341 --> 02:58:40,341
today you'll hear from your community.

3939
02:58:40,341 --> 02:58:43,941
we have over 900 citizens defending our

3940
02:58:46,341 --> 02:58:47,341
community plan.

3941
02:58:47,341 --> 02:58:49,341
800 signatures that support no changes

3942
02:58:49,341 --> 02:58:50,341
to the plan.

3943
02:58:50,341 --> 02:58:53,341
I know you've received those letters.

3944
02:58:53,341 --> 02:58:56,341
granite bay is growing from a rural

3945
02:58:56,341 --> 02:58:57,341
community to a suburban community.

3946
02:58:57,341 --> 02:59:00,341
this project changes the current zoning

3947
02:59:00,341 --> 02:59:03,341
from 16 homes to 56 single one and

3948
02:59:03,341 --> 02:59:05,341
two-storey family homes.

3949
02:59:05,341 --> 02:59:09,341
it preserves none of the rural character

3950
02:59:09,341 --> 02:59:11,341
of the 16.3-acres.

3951
02:59:11,341 --> 02:59:14,341
it eliminates the ag designation.

3952
02:59:16,341 --> 02:59:18,341
this property which hasn't been pointed

3953
02:59:18,341 --> 02:59:22,341
out is surrounded by one up to four acre

3954
02:59:22,341 --> 02:59:23,341
parcels.

3955
02:59:23,341 --> 02:59:26,281
those people have sheep, goats, I think

3956
02:59:26,281 --> 02:59:28,281
there is a horse there.

3957
02:59:28,281 --> 02:59:30,281
what this property is doing, it's

3958
02:59:30,281 --> 02:59:34,481
dumping a little bit citrus heights into

3959
02:59:40,281 --> 02:59:41,281
granite bay.

3960
02:59:41,281 --> 02:59:43,281
it was zoned to fit in with the

3961
02:59:43,281 --> 02:59:45,281
surrounding parcels.

3962
02:59:48,280 --> 02:59:52,280
what they're doing is taking that away.

3963
02:59:52,280 --> 02:59:54,281
the variance that is requested does not

3964
02:59:54,281 --> 02:59:57,881
even meet the county zoning ordinance.

3965
02:59:58,281 --> 03:00:00,281
that is explained in the letter I sent

3966
03:00:00,281 --> 03:00:01,281
to you.

3967
03:00:01,281 --> 03:00:04,881
the project will add 600 [inaudible] to

3968
03:00:05,281 --> 03:00:07,281
sierra college boulevard.

3969
03:00:09,281 --> 03:00:13,281
it takes now two light changes to travel

3970
03:00:13,281 --> 03:00:16,281
from east roseville parkway to old

3971
03:00:16,281 --> 03:00:18,281
auburn boulevard.

3972
03:00:18,281 --> 03:00:22,281
and that's a distance of 4/10 of a mile.

3973
03:00:22,281 --> 03:00:24,281
I timed it yesterday because I was stuck

3974
03:00:24,281 --> 03:00:26,281
as I always am.

3975
03:00:26,281 --> 03:00:28,281
our community plan was written to

3976
03:00:28,281 --> 03:00:30,281
protect our rural way of life.

3977
03:00:30,281 --> 03:00:33,281
it's been destroyed as you've

3978
03:00:34,281 --> 03:00:36,281
continually approved projects that

3979
03:00:36,281 --> 03:00:39,281
require massive changes to our granite

3980
03:00:39,281 --> 03:00:40,281
bay community plan.

3981
03:00:40,281 --> 03:00:42,281
it's called a community plan because

3982
03:00:42,281 --> 03:00:45,281
that's what the community wants.

3983
03:00:45,281 --> 03:00:47,281
it should not be overridden by a small

3984
03:00:47,281 --> 03:00:49,281
number of individuals.

3985
03:00:49,281 --> 03:00:52,281
I urge you to consider the voting record

3986
03:00:52,281 --> 03:00:55,281
of our planning commission and our board

3987
03:00:55,281 --> 03:00:56,281
of supervisors.

3988
03:00:56,281 --> 03:00:58,281
several years ago, one of you asked at

3989
03:00:58,281 --> 03:01:02,281
one of these meetings why does the

3990
03:01:02,281 --> 03:01:05,281
county approve these plans if it's not

3991
03:01:05,281 --> 03:01:07,281
going to adhere to them?

3992
03:01:07,281 --> 03:01:09,281
I'm asking you that question again

3993
03:01:09,281 --> 03:01:10,281
today.

3994
03:01:10,281 --> 03:01:12,281
why spend years developing

3995
03:01:12,281 --> 03:01:14,281
carefully-drafted award-winning

3996
03:01:15,281 --> 03:01:18,281
community plans if you're not going to

3997
03:01:18,281 --> 03:01:19,281
defend them for us?

3998
03:01:19,281 --> 03:01:22,281
what about our property rights?

3999
03:01:22,281 --> 03:01:24,281
this is not progress, it is

4000
03:01:24,281 --> 03:01:26,281
urbanization.

4001
03:01:26,281 --> 03:01:28,281
[applause]

4002
03:01:30,221 --> 03:01:32,221
>> I'm mark guzzen.

4003
03:01:39,221 --> 03:01:42,221
I'm the past president of the eureka

4004
03:01:42,221 --> 03:01:45,221
school foundation and sit on the board

4005
03:01:45,221 --> 03:01:47,221
of e.s.f.

4006
03:01:47,221 --> 03:01:50,221
e.s.f. Is a volunteer organization

4007
03:01:50,221 --> 03:01:53,821
chartered with raising private funds to

4008
03:01:54,221 --> 03:01:58,221
augment the public school budget in the

4009
03:01:58,221 --> 03:02:00,221
eureka school district.

4010
03:02:00,221 --> 03:02:04,221
there is not much controversy in the

4011
03:02:04,221 --> 03:02:07,221
comment that public education in granite

4012
03:02:07,221 --> 03:02:09,221
bay is one of the cornerstones of the

4013
03:02:09,221 --> 03:02:11,221
community and one of the primary reasons

4014
03:02:11,221 --> 03:02:15,421
many -- many people choose -- many

4015
03:02:18,221 --> 03:02:19,221
people choose to live there.

4016
03:02:19,221 --> 03:02:22,221
it maintains the property values and

4017
03:02:22,221 --> 03:02:24,221
economic viability of the community and

4018
03:02:24,221 --> 03:02:26,221
in fact, raising great citizens.

4019
03:02:26,221 --> 03:02:30,421
I think that this project helps offset

4020
03:02:31,161 --> 03:02:34,161
some of the risks that we have to that

4021
03:02:34,161 --> 03:02:37,161
quality education by bringing more

4022
03:02:38,161 --> 03:02:41,161
families into the district and

4023
03:02:42,161 --> 03:02:44,161
offsetting some of the declining

4024
03:02:44,161 --> 03:02:46,161
enrollment we've seen over the past 10

4025
03:02:46,161 --> 03:02:47,161
plus years.

4026
03:02:47,161 --> 03:02:52,161
I think that it also brings in -- is

4027
03:02:52,161 --> 03:02:54,161
likely to bring in folks that are more

4028
03:02:54,161 --> 03:02:57,161
committed because they are part of the

4029
03:02:57,161 --> 03:03:00,761
granite bay community and farming both

4030
03:03:01,161 --> 03:03:03,161
volunteerism as well as financially

4031
03:03:03,161 --> 03:03:06,161
supporting many opportunities that we

4032
03:03:06,161 --> 03:03:10,361
have to augment the public funding of

4033
03:03:11,161 --> 03:03:12,161
education.

4034
03:03:12,161 --> 03:03:14,161
which are critically important to

4035
03:03:14,161 --> 03:03:15,161
maintaining the quality of the

4036
03:03:15,161 --> 03:03:16,161
education.

4037
03:03:16,161 --> 03:03:18,561
and consequently maintaining the

4038
03:03:19,161 --> 03:03:21,161
cornerstone of the community.

4039
03:03:21,161 --> 03:03:24,161
so, in summary, I'd like you to approve

4040
03:03:24,161 --> 03:03:27,761
this project and help maintain the

4041
03:03:28,161 --> 03:03:31,101
quality of education in granite bay.

4042
03:03:31,101 --> 03:03:32,101
thank you.

4043
03:03:32,101 --> 03:03:34,101
>> I'm paul verassy.

4044
03:03:45,101 --> 03:03:47,101
I'm one of the landowners and I keep

4045
03:03:47,101 --> 03:03:49,101
getting the information that I graded my

4046
03:03:49,101 --> 03:03:51,101
property incorrectly.

4047
03:03:51,101 --> 03:03:53,101
all my property was graded per plan, per

4048
03:03:53,101 --> 03:03:54,101
the county.

4049
03:03:54,101 --> 03:03:56,101
it was all approved by county.

4050
03:03:56,101 --> 03:03:57,101
just to clarify that.

4051
03:03:57,101 --> 03:04:00,101
I didn't grade anything different than

4052
03:04:00,101 --> 03:04:04,101
what the county approved by my grader.

4053
03:04:04,101 --> 03:04:06,101
the water is doing what it's supposed to

4054
03:04:06,101 --> 03:04:07,101
do.

4055
03:04:07,101 --> 03:04:08,101
if the pipe is too small, that's what

4056
03:04:08,101 --> 03:04:10,101
the county approved at the time.

4057
03:04:10,101 --> 03:04:14,101
my comment is the rezoning for the

4058
03:04:14,101 --> 03:04:17,101
greater public necessity and welfare

4059
03:04:18,101 --> 03:04:19,101
requires such an amendment.

4060
03:04:19,101 --> 03:04:22,101
the property proposed demonstrate none

4061
03:04:22,101 --> 03:04:24,101
of the above and destructive to the

4062
03:04:24,101 --> 03:04:26,101
convenience and general welfare of the

4063
03:04:26,101 --> 03:04:28,101
greater number of residents served by

4064
03:04:28,101 --> 03:04:29,410
this project.

4065
03:04:29,410 --> 03:04:32,410
800 plus residents signed a petition to

4066
03:04:32,410 --> 03:04:33,410
close the park.

4067
03:04:33,410 --> 03:04:36,410
the objectives, lots comparable to

4068
03:04:42,410 --> 03:04:45,410
eckerman, but they are not.

4069
03:04:45,410 --> 03:04:48,410
they were built in the '50s.

4070
03:04:48,410 --> 03:04:51,641
24 hours on annabelle and eckerman are

4071
03:04:53,410 --> 03:04:55,410
under the half acre lot size.

4072
03:04:55,410 --> 03:04:59,241
the lot sizes on annabelle and eckerman.

4073
03:05:00,410 --> 03:05:03,410
it's a difference of 250 percent.

4074
03:05:04,410 --> 03:05:06,410
that's not comparable.

4075
03:05:07,410 --> 03:05:09,410
studies obtain.

4076
03:05:09,410 --> 03:05:11,410
this may provide opportunities for

4077
03:05:11,410 --> 03:05:14,410
generating new students in the school

4078
03:05:14,410 --> 03:05:15,410
district.

4079
03:05:15,410 --> 03:05:17,410
we have a loss by having students in our

4080
03:05:17,410 --> 03:05:18,410
schools.

4081
03:05:18,410 --> 03:05:20,410
they keep saying our schools are

4082
03:05:20,410 --> 03:05:21,410
underfunded.

4083
03:05:21,410 --> 03:05:24,410
each school costs the district $15,000

4084
03:05:24,410 --> 03:05:27,410
yearly for the student funding of $8,000

4085
03:05:27,410 --> 03:05:28,410
a year.

4086
03:05:28,410 --> 03:05:30,410
increasing to 10,000 in 2017.

4087
03:05:30,981 --> 03:05:34,581
the net cost is a loss.

4088
03:05:34,981 --> 03:05:37,981
all our outside students are turned away

4089
03:05:37,981 --> 03:05:39,981
to recover some of the cost we're losing

4090
03:05:39,981 --> 03:05:40,981
in the students.

4091
03:05:40,981 --> 03:05:42,981
providing a park.

4092
03:05:42,981 --> 03:05:45,981
in 2013 you approved the current level

4093
03:05:45,981 --> 03:05:48,381
of park was satisfactory.

4094
03:05:51,981 --> 03:05:55,981
in granite bay we currently have park

4095
03:05:55,981 --> 03:05:57,981
capacity for 360,000 residents.

4096
03:06:00,981 --> 03:06:03,381
it's 26,000 in granite bay.

4097
03:06:07,981 --> 03:06:10,981
the park would be underutilized.

4098
03:06:10,981 --> 03:06:12,981
providing housing opportunities

4099
03:06:12,981 --> 03:06:15,981
accommodated with the activities with

4100
03:06:15,981 --> 03:06:19,581
the rhna when over 50% coverage, the

4101
03:06:19,981 --> 03:06:22,981
lots cannot accommodate a variety of

4102
03:06:22,981 --> 03:06:25,981
activities as per your report filed by

4103
03:06:25,981 --> 03:06:29,581
the rhna placer county has enough

4104
03:06:29,921 --> 03:06:32,321
capacity and underutilized sites

4105
03:06:32,921 --> 03:06:35,921
accommodate the recent housing needs

4106
03:06:35,921 --> 03:06:37,921
without rezoning.

4107
03:06:37,921 --> 03:06:39,921
according to the government blueprints

4108
03:06:39,921 --> 03:06:41,921
they're satisfactory.

4109
03:06:45,921 --> 03:06:48,921
the developer can't build the 16 homes

4110
03:06:48,921 --> 03:06:51,921
for what the cost is then there is

4111
03:06:51,921 --> 03:06:53,921
something wrong with the developer.

4112
03:06:53,921 --> 03:06:55,921
there has to be a profit for this

4113
03:06:55,921 --> 03:06:58,921
developer if he's going to have homes

4114
03:06:58,921 --> 03:07:00,921
that he can't build.

4115
03:07:00,921 --> 03:07:02,921
we need to know what his profit is going

4116
03:07:02,921 --> 03:07:03,921
to be.

4117
03:07:03,921 --> 03:07:05,921
isn't that fair to the community to know

4118
03:07:05,921 --> 03:07:06,921
that?

4119
03:07:06,921 --> 03:07:07,921
we have no idea what the house is going

4120
03:07:07,921 --> 03:07:10,921
to cast because he says they're for

4121
03:07:10,921 --> 03:07:11,921
younger families.

4122
03:07:11,921 --> 03:07:13,921
they can't afford $700,000.

4123
03:07:14,921 --> 03:07:18,921
granite bay is a move-up area into the

4124
03:07:18,921 --> 03:07:19,921
downsizing.

4125
03:07:19,921 --> 03:07:21,921
we didn't want to be stuck in a house on

4126
03:07:21,921 --> 03:07:25,921
pop top of a house that's why we bought

4127
03:07:25,921 --> 03:07:27,921
four acres in granite bay.

4128
03:07:27,921 --> 03:07:29,861
thank you.

4129
03:07:29,861 --> 03:07:30,861
[applause]

4130
03:07:30,861 --> 03:07:35,610
>> I'm marianne beckett and I live south

4131
03:07:37,861 --> 03:07:38,861
of the project.

4132
03:07:38,861 --> 03:07:42,461
our members listened to the crowd.

4133
03:07:43,861 --> 03:07:45,861
there was a petition signed by more than

4134
03:07:45,861 --> 03:07:47,861
800 citizens.

4135
03:07:47,861 --> 03:07:49,861
the mac voted against the park and

4136
03:07:49,861 --> 03:07:51,861
granite bay determining there are no

4137
03:07:51,861 --> 03:07:54,861
overriding benefits to justify imposing

4138
03:07:54,861 --> 03:07:56,861
in project on the community.

4139
03:07:56,861 --> 03:08:01,861
in the e.I.r. Section, the board of

4140
03:08:01,861 --> 03:08:04,861
supervisors is mentioned 45 times saying

4141
03:08:04,861 --> 03:08:08,861
they have authority to approve or not

4142
03:08:08,861 --> 03:08:09,861
approve the project.

4143
03:08:09,861 --> 03:08:12,861
it says agricultural residents will be

4144
03:08:12,861 --> 03:08:15,861
protected by the right to farm

4145
03:08:15,861 --> 03:08:16,861
ordinance.

4146
03:08:16,861 --> 03:08:17,861
a document that only protects

4147
03:08:17,861 --> 03:08:19,861
established activities.

4148
03:08:19,861 --> 03:08:22,261
supervisor uhler himself told 10

4149
03:08:22,861 --> 03:08:24,861
bordering neighbors that the density

4150
03:08:24,861 --> 03:08:26,861
does not make sense here and half acre

4151
03:08:26,861 --> 03:08:29,801
lots would be a more reasonable option.

4152
03:08:29,801 --> 03:08:30,801
contrary to the mac's decision

4153
03:08:30,801 --> 03:08:33,801
proponents claim this project will

4154
03:08:33,801 --> 03:08:35,801
generate significant numbers of new

4155
03:08:35,801 --> 03:08:36,801
students.

4156
03:08:36,801 --> 03:08:37,801
this is not true.

4157
03:08:37,801 --> 03:08:39,801
our district's 2016 developer fees

4158
03:08:39,801 --> 03:08:41,801
justification studies estimate the park

4159
03:08:41,801 --> 03:08:44,801
will only generate 18 new students above

4160
03:08:44,801 --> 03:08:46,801
the existing zoning.

4161
03:08:46,801 --> 03:08:50,401
that is only a 0.0013% increase in

4162
03:08:50,801 --> 03:08:51,801
enrollment.

4163
03:08:51,801 --> 03:08:56,100
according to melanie gasby at a funding

4164
03:08:57,801 --> 03:09:01,401
rate of $100,000 per in kindergarten to

4165
03:09:02,801 --> 03:09:05,201
grade school students, it's

4166
03:09:05,801 --> 03:09:06,801
insignificant.

4167
03:09:06,801 --> 03:09:10,401
to add the voluntary contributions is

4168
03:09:10,801 --> 03:09:13,201
speculative and requesting neither

4169
03:09:13,801 --> 03:09:16,801
quantified or guaranteed and not taken

4170
03:09:16,801 --> 03:09:17,801
into consideration.

4171
03:09:17,801 --> 03:09:20,801
it's stated that our student enrollments

4172
03:09:20,801 --> 03:09:22,801
are declining.

4173
03:09:22,801 --> 03:09:27,100
k to 8th grade were 9% above projections

4174
03:09:28,741 --> 03:09:29,741
this year.

4175
03:09:29,741 --> 03:09:32,741
an e.I.r. Letter from the roseville high

4176
03:09:32,741 --> 03:09:34,741
school district states that students

4177
03:09:34,741 --> 03:09:35,741
from the new development would be

4178
03:09:35,741 --> 03:09:38,141
redistributed to under-utilized schools.

4179
03:09:39,741 --> 03:09:42,741
according to the study, enrollments

4180
03:09:42,741 --> 03:09:44,741
capacity by 268 students.

4181
03:09:45,741 --> 03:09:48,741
no existing capacity will be available

4182
03:09:48,741 --> 03:09:49,741
for new development.

4183
03:09:49,741 --> 03:09:52,741
it further states, the districts that no

4184
03:09:52,741 --> 03:09:54,741
available capacity therefore the

4185
03:09:54,741 --> 03:09:58,341
projected 9th to 12th grade students

4186
03:09:58,741 --> 03:10:00,741
will be considered unhoused.

4187
03:10:00,741 --> 03:10:02,741
some students have been sitting on the

4188
03:10:02,741 --> 03:10:04,741
floor in classes like a.p. Government

4189
03:10:04,741 --> 03:10:06,741
due to overcrowding.

4190
03:10:06,741 --> 03:10:08,741
claims that granite bay is an aging

4191
03:10:08,741 --> 03:10:11,741
community losing touch with the families

4192
03:10:11,741 --> 03:10:13,741
and children are unfounded.

4193
03:10:13,741 --> 03:10:16,741
according to our most recent data,

4194
03:10:16,741 --> 03:10:19,741
granite bay's per capita population

4195
03:10:19,741 --> 03:10:23,341
under age 18 is 26% which is 1 to 2%

4196
03:10:23,741 --> 03:10:25,741
more than california and our nation.

4197
03:10:25,741 --> 03:10:30,541
we are above par in our [inaudible] to

4198
03:10:30,741 --> 03:10:31,741
young families.

4199
03:10:31,741 --> 03:10:34,741
with the measurable impacts on us prove

4200
03:10:34,741 --> 03:10:37,741
that every day citizens have a voice.

4201
03:10:37,741 --> 03:10:40,741
people signed a petition, not anonymous

4202
03:10:40,741 --> 03:10:43,741
facebook likes, vote against this

4203
03:10:44,741 --> 03:10:46,741
rezone variance and amendment.

4204
03:10:46,741 --> 03:10:47,741
thank you.

4205
03:10:47,741 --> 03:10:48,741
[applause]

4206
03:10:48,741 --> 03:10:50,741
>> good afternoon.

4207
03:11:01,741 --> 03:11:02,741
I'm holly johnson.

4208
03:11:02,741 --> 03:11:04,741
I live in granite bay and I work in

4209
03:11:04,741 --> 03:11:05,741
granite bay.

4210
03:11:05,741 --> 03:11:06,741
I am an attorney.

4211
03:11:06,741 --> 03:11:08,741
I practice law in the city of california

4212
03:11:08,741 --> 03:11:09,741
for 24 years.

4213
03:11:09,741 --> 03:11:12,741
I moved my practice to granite bay.

4214
03:11:12,741 --> 03:11:15,141
I practice regulatory compliance.

4215
03:11:15,741 --> 03:11:18,741
we have to look at what is before us to

4216
03:11:18,741 --> 03:11:19,741
see whether or not we're in compliance.

4217
03:11:19,741 --> 03:11:23,741
my concern and I'll make it as short and

4218
03:11:23,741 --> 03:11:25,741
sweet as possible.

4219
03:11:25,741 --> 03:11:27,741
maybe not too sweet, but short.

4220
03:11:27,741 --> 03:11:28,681
not just in project.

4221
03:11:28,681 --> 03:11:31,681
this project in part but the other ones

4222
03:11:31,681 --> 03:11:33,681
that you have that will be come before

4223
03:11:33,681 --> 03:11:37,681
you looking to change density and zoning

4224
03:11:37,681 --> 03:11:39,681
of the granite bay plan.

4225
03:11:39,681 --> 03:11:41,681
I think it sets a terrible precedent.

4226
03:11:41,681 --> 03:11:43,681
yes, we want the development, we want it

4227
03:11:43,681 --> 03:11:45,681
pursuant to what is already in existence

4228
03:11:45,681 --> 03:11:46,681
in the plan.

4229
03:11:46,681 --> 03:11:48,681
I don't think you have good cause before

4230
03:11:48,681 --> 03:11:50,681
you to deviate from the plan to have all

4231
03:11:50,681 --> 03:11:52,681
these amendments, to have all these

4232
03:11:52,681 --> 03:11:54,681
variances and zonings that will change

4233
03:11:54,681 --> 03:11:55,681
the traffic.

4234
03:11:55,681 --> 03:11:58,681
you take it piece and piecemeal.

4235
03:11:58,681 --> 03:12:00,681
you combine the number of projects that

4236
03:12:00,681 --> 03:12:01,681
you have before.

4237
03:12:01,681 --> 03:12:03,681
16, I believe in granite bay.

4238
03:12:03,681 --> 03:12:04,681
whatever the number is.

4239
03:12:04,681 --> 03:12:07,681
you're going to drastically change the

4240
03:12:07,681 --> 03:12:10,810
traffic on douglas boulevard.

4241
03:12:13,681 --> 03:12:14,681
I was at the map meeting.

4242
03:12:14,681 --> 03:12:18,281
this doesn't show that properties around

4243
03:12:19,681 --> 03:12:21,681
do not have the density.

4244
03:12:21,681 --> 03:12:23,681
whether the developer can develop it

4245
03:12:23,681 --> 03:12:26,681
based upon a cost or quote is not the

4246
03:12:26,681 --> 03:12:27,681
concern that should be before you.

4247
03:12:27,681 --> 03:12:29,621
that's their issue.

4248
03:12:29,621 --> 03:12:32,621
so, what I'd like to you take away is

4249
03:12:32,621 --> 03:12:35,621
not just this piece, but what you're

4250
03:12:35,621 --> 03:12:37,621
going to have coming before you.

4251
03:12:37,621 --> 03:12:39,621
do you have good cause to deviate from

4252
03:12:39,621 --> 03:12:42,621
what is the zoning and density of the

4253
03:12:42,621 --> 03:12:44,621
particular pieces of property.

4254
03:12:44,621 --> 03:12:45,621
are you changing the whole feel of

4255
03:12:45,621 --> 03:12:47,621
granite bay?

4256
03:12:47,621 --> 03:12:48,621
please listen to the constituents.

4257
03:12:48,621 --> 03:12:50,621
I'm one of them.

4258
03:12:50,621 --> 03:12:53,621
it's a fundamental problem if you're

4259
03:12:53,621 --> 03:12:54,621
going it change the whole nature.

4260
03:12:54,621 --> 03:12:56,621
you're my representative.

4261
03:12:56,621 --> 03:12:58,621
I ask that you listen to me.

4262
03:12:58,621 --> 03:13:00,621
I'm an attorney, I practice law for a

4263
03:13:00,621 --> 03:13:01,621
living.

4264
03:13:01,621 --> 03:13:02,621
I hope we don't have to get there.

4265
03:13:02,621 --> 03:13:04,621
please listen to what is being said

4266
03:13:04,621 --> 03:13:05,621
before you.

4267
03:13:05,621 --> 03:13:06,621
thank you.

4268
03:13:06,621 --> 03:13:07,621
[applause]

4269
03:13:07,621 --> 03:13:10,621
>> my name is karma norassey.

4270
03:13:22,621 --> 03:13:24,621
there are serious concerns regarding

4271
03:13:24,621 --> 03:13:27,621
access required by development exceeding

4272
03:13:27,621 --> 03:13:30,621
30 homes and drainage on adjacent

4273
03:13:31,561 --> 03:13:32,561
properties.

4274
03:13:32,561 --> 03:13:35,561
the project requires eckerman road for

4275
03:13:35,561 --> 03:13:36,561
cases of emergency.

4276
03:13:36,561 --> 03:13:39,561
the developer has not been granted an

4277
03:13:39,561 --> 03:13:44,361
easement to use eckerman road as an eba.

4278
03:13:45,561 --> 03:13:49,161
without the secondary eba on eckerman

4279
03:13:50,561 --> 03:13:52,961
should not be used.

4280
03:13:53,561 --> 03:13:57,761
they have a easement to use eckerman

4281
03:13:58,561 --> 03:14:00,561
road for ingress or easement for one

4282
03:14:00,561 --> 03:14:01,561
home.

4283
03:14:01,561 --> 03:14:03,561
this easement has been in place since

4284
03:14:03,561 --> 03:14:04,561
1959.

4285
03:14:04,561 --> 03:14:07,561
the use of that not be changed without a

4286
03:14:07,561 --> 03:14:09,561
written easement from other current

4287
03:14:09,561 --> 03:14:11,961
landowners along eckerman road.

4288
03:14:13,561 --> 03:14:18,361
once the owner will lose the right for

4289
03:14:19,561 --> 03:14:21,561
ingress and egress.

4290
03:14:25,561 --> 03:14:28,501
all other county and south placer fire

4291
03:14:28,501 --> 03:14:32,501
say they approve the use of eckerman

4292
03:14:32,501 --> 03:14:34,501
road for easement.

4293
03:14:34,501 --> 03:14:36,501
the builder must get an easement.

4294
03:14:36,501 --> 03:14:39,501
that has not been accomplished.

4295
03:14:39,501 --> 03:14:43,701
alternative to, they would not require a

4296
03:14:44,501 --> 03:14:46,501
second eba.

4297
03:14:46,501 --> 03:14:48,501
california fire code mandates that an

4298
03:14:48,501 --> 03:14:52,701
e.b.a. Must meet physical requirements

4299
03:14:53,501 --> 03:14:55,501
in the case.

4300
03:14:56,501 --> 03:14:58,501
roads shall meet the requirements of

4301
03:14:58,501 --> 03:15:00,501
local authority have been jurisdiction

4302
03:15:00,501 --> 03:15:02,501
but not less than requirements set in

4303
03:15:02,501 --> 03:15:04,501
prc 4290.

4304
03:15:05,501 --> 03:15:09,701
current code is for a [inaudible] road.

4305
03:15:10,501 --> 03:15:13,501
eckerman does not meet the requirements.

4306
03:15:13,501 --> 03:15:16,501
regarding the drainage, the e.I.r.

4307
03:15:16,501 --> 03:15:19,501
fails to adequately address the impacts

4308
03:15:19,501 --> 03:15:21,501
on the property owners, us.

4309
03:15:21,501 --> 03:15:24,501
per placer county land development, 5.11

4310
03:15:25,501 --> 03:15:28,441
for drainage easement is required for

4311
03:15:28,441 --> 03:15:31,441
required improvement or plan approval to

4312
03:15:31,441 --> 03:15:32,441
accommodate flows.

4313
03:15:32,441 --> 03:15:35,441
they are not getting a drainage easement

4314
03:15:35,441 --> 03:15:37,441
through my property.

4315
03:15:37,441 --> 03:15:38,441
thank you.

4316
03:15:38,441 --> 03:15:39,441
[applause]

4317
03:15:39,441 --> 03:15:43,441
>> group two can come up now if they

4318
03:15:43,441 --> 03:15:44,441
choose.

4319
03:15:44,441 --> 03:15:46,441
we're almost ready for group two.

4320
03:15:46,441 --> 03:15:51,441
>> my name is elaine sokko and I live on

4321
03:15:51,441 --> 03:15:53,441
eckerman road.

4322
03:15:54,441 --> 03:15:56,441
I'm here to talk about the analysis of

4323
03:15:56,441 --> 03:15:58,441
alternative two.

4324
03:15:59,441 --> 03:16:03,641
can we trust an analysis where 56 minus

4325
03:16:04,441 --> 03:16:07,441
36 is equal to 38 where 32 is greater

4326
03:16:07,441 --> 03:16:09,441
than 56?

4327
03:16:09,441 --> 03:16:11,441
where fewer residents use more

4328
03:16:11,441 --> 03:16:12,441
utilities?

4329
03:16:12,441 --> 03:16:13,441
county staff stated the following in

4330
03:16:13,441 --> 03:16:17,441
their analysis of the alternative to or

4331
03:16:17,441 --> 03:16:18,441
as zoned.

4332
03:16:18,441 --> 03:16:21,441
land use as zoned would require no

4333
03:16:21,441 --> 03:16:23,441
special entitlements.

4334
03:16:23,441 --> 03:16:26,441
aesthetics would be similar though those

4335
03:16:26,441 --> 03:16:28,381
of the proposed project.

4336
03:16:28,381 --> 03:16:30,381
transportation would result in less

4337
03:16:30,381 --> 03:16:33,381
traffic than the proposed project.

4338
03:16:33,381 --> 03:16:35,381
air quality results in fewer vehicles

4339
03:16:35,381 --> 03:16:37,381
with less than significant air quality

4340
03:16:37,381 --> 03:16:38,381
impacts.

4341
03:16:38,381 --> 03:16:40,381
greenhouse gas emissions as zoned would

4342
03:16:40,381 --> 03:16:43,381
result in fewer residential units and

4343
03:16:43,381 --> 03:16:46,381
greenhouse gas emissions would be less

4344
03:16:46,381 --> 03:16:47,381
than the project because there are fewer

4345
03:16:47,381 --> 03:16:48,381
units.

4346
03:16:48,381 --> 03:16:51,381
noise as zoned would not include a park

4347
03:16:51,381 --> 03:16:52,381
which would have no impact on new

4348
03:16:52,381 --> 03:16:55,381
residents or on existing residents

4349
03:16:55,381 --> 03:16:57,381
neighbors related to the noise generated

4350
03:16:57,381 --> 03:16:59,381
by park users.

4351
03:16:59,381 --> 03:17:01,381
hydrology and water quality.

4352
03:17:01,381 --> 03:17:05,381
this project would result in less than

4353
03:17:05,381 --> 03:17:08,381
impervious surface and have potential

4354
03:17:10,381 --> 03:17:11,381
for flooding.

4355
03:17:11,381 --> 03:17:13,781
aesthetics, transportation, air quality,

4356
03:17:15,381 --> 03:17:16,381
greenhouse gas.

4357
03:17:16,381 --> 03:17:18,381
hydrology and water quality, your own

4358
03:17:18,381 --> 03:17:21,381
planning staff has identified as zoned

4359
03:17:21,381 --> 03:17:23,381
as superior alternative.

4360
03:17:23,381 --> 03:17:25,381
contrary to the analysis of utilities

4361
03:17:25,381 --> 03:17:27,381
and service systems, the zoned

4362
03:17:27,381 --> 03:17:30,321
alternative provides 40 units less than

4363
03:17:30,321 --> 03:17:31,321
the proposal.

4364
03:17:31,321 --> 03:17:33,321
this would result in fewer residents.

4365
03:17:33,321 --> 03:17:37,321
the 16 units built per staff are of

4366
03:17:37,321 --> 03:17:39,321
social benefit since there are almost

4367
03:17:39,321 --> 03:17:42,321
500,000 square feet of senior living

4368
03:17:43,321 --> 03:17:44,321
proposed.

4369
03:17:44,321 --> 03:17:46,321
32 units is less than 56.

4370
03:17:46,321 --> 03:17:48,321
so the demand for the utilities and

4371
03:17:48,321 --> 03:17:50,321
services systems would be less than

4372
03:17:50,321 --> 03:17:52,321
described for the proposal.

4373
03:17:52,321 --> 03:17:54,321
total number of units draining to the

4374
03:17:54,321 --> 03:17:57,321
waste water treatment system would be

4375
03:17:57,321 --> 03:18:00,321
significantly less than provided by the

4376
03:18:00,321 --> 03:18:01,321
proposal.

4377
03:18:01,321 --> 03:18:04,321
even with six bathrooms for 16 units

4378
03:18:04,321 --> 03:18:07,921
total 96, the project would produce at

4379
03:18:08,321 --> 03:18:10,721
least 2.5 bathrooms or 340 bathrooms.

4380
03:18:15,321 --> 03:18:17,321
so it generates less demand.

4381
03:18:17,321 --> 03:18:20,321
if he last mac meeting we were told that

4382
03:18:20,321 --> 03:18:22,321
water was not an issue in placer county.

4383
03:18:22,321 --> 03:18:25,321
even here two families per acre will use

4384
03:18:25,321 --> 03:18:28,261
less than four families per acre for

4385
03:18:28,261 --> 03:18:30,261
every alternative.

4386
03:18:32,261 --> 03:18:35,261
the alternative is superior and less

4387
03:18:35,261 --> 03:18:37,261
impactful and should be supported.

4388
03:18:37,261 --> 03:18:41,261
I ask you please do not look at this

4389
03:18:41,261 --> 03:18:45,461
proposal and think it's an infill with

4390
03:18:46,261 --> 03:18:48,261
high density.

4391
03:18:48,261 --> 03:18:50,261
it's a high density project that does

4392
03:18:50,261 --> 03:18:51,261
not belong in this neighborhood.

4393
03:18:51,261 --> 03:18:54,261
we're fine with developing the land as

4394
03:18:54,261 --> 03:18:57,261
the granite bay community proposes.

4395
03:18:57,261 --> 03:18:58,261
thank you.

4396
03:18:58,261 --> 03:19:00,261
[applause]

4397
03:19:01,261 --> 03:19:04,861
>> good afternoon, my name is lora

4398
03:19:08,261 --> 03:19:10,261
saberry.

4399
03:19:11,261 --> 03:19:14,261
I'm speaking on behalf of a former

4400
03:19:14,261 --> 03:19:16,261
planning commissioner who has over 15

4401
03:19:16,261 --> 03:19:18,261
years experience as a senior resource

4402
03:19:18,261 --> 03:19:21,261
analyst with the state water resources.

4403
03:19:21,261 --> 03:19:25,261
after her careful review of the e.I.r.,

4404
03:19:25,261 --> 03:19:27,261
it can be concluded they failed to

4405
03:19:27,261 --> 03:19:31,461
comply with the requirements of the ceqa

4406
03:19:34,201 --> 03:19:35,201
code.

4407
03:19:35,201 --> 03:19:38,201
this is not in compliance with the

4408
03:19:38,201 --> 03:19:40,201
placer county code.

4409
03:19:40,201 --> 03:19:43,801
because did conflicts with several --

4410
03:19:45,201 --> 03:19:48,201
approval would go against government

4411
03:19:48,201 --> 03:19:50,601
code 65000 and government code 6647345

4412
03:19:53,201 --> 03:19:55,201
and 6646474.

4413
03:19:57,201 --> 03:20:00,201
the potential to create significant

4414
03:20:00,201 --> 03:20:02,201
environmental impacts.

4415
03:20:03,201 --> 03:20:07,201
the d.e.I.r. And e.I.r. And drainage

4416
03:20:07,201 --> 03:20:10,201
study failed to conduct a complete and

4417
03:20:10,201 --> 03:20:12,201
accurate analysis can have the hydrology

4418
03:20:12,201 --> 03:20:14,201
and water quality impacts and the

4419
03:20:14,201 --> 03:20:17,201
documents do not conform to the own

4420
03:20:17,201 --> 03:20:19,201
mandated reporting requirements.

4421
03:20:19,201 --> 03:20:23,201
these do not entail the calculations for

4422
03:20:23,201 --> 03:20:26,201
complete analysis, omit key data.

4423
03:20:29,201 --> 03:20:32,201
the initial hydrology reports are

4424
03:20:32,201 --> 03:20:33,201
inconsistent.

4425
03:20:33,201 --> 03:20:35,201
the water quality study shows

4426
03:20:35,201 --> 03:20:37,201
approximately 30% more impervious

4427
03:20:39,201 --> 03:20:42,201
service than the original report and

4428
03:20:42,201 --> 03:20:44,201
total runoff volumes.

4429
03:20:44,201 --> 03:20:46,201
this is contradictory.

4430
03:20:47,201 --> 03:20:49,201
inaccuracies are provided in her

4431
03:20:49,201 --> 03:20:51,201
detailed letter which will be attached.

4432
03:20:51,201 --> 03:20:53,601
the at the least.

4433
03:20:55,201 --> 03:20:57,201
the e.I.r. Must be recirculated since

4434
03:20:57,201 --> 03:20:59,201
the program report which is required by

4435
03:20:59,201 --> 03:21:03,201
the placer -- west placer storm quality

4436
03:21:03,201 --> 03:21:06,201
design manual was not generated envelope

4437
03:21:06,201 --> 03:21:08,201
september of 2016 and was not available

4438
03:21:08,201 --> 03:21:11,801
for public review as per ceqa.

4439
03:21:12,201 --> 03:21:15,201
additionally, the legal grounds for

4440
03:21:15,201 --> 03:21:19,201
granting the variance has not been met

4441
03:21:19,201 --> 03:21:23,401
by mr. Tattersall it does not constitute

4442
03:21:27,201 --> 03:21:29,141
grounds for constituting variance.

4443
03:21:29,141 --> 03:21:33,141
the worthiness of a project are not

4444
03:21:33,141 --> 03:21:35,141
proper considerations in determining

4445
03:21:35,141 --> 03:21:38,141
whether to approve a variance.

4446
03:21:40,141 --> 03:21:43,741
once again granting this variance would

4447
03:21:45,141 --> 03:21:48,141
constitute a prejudicial abuse of

4448
03:21:48,141 --> 03:21:49,141
discretion.

4449
03:21:49,141 --> 03:21:53,141
in the present matter, the ceqa find of

4450
03:21:53,141 --> 03:21:55,141
facts are not in the record as they

4451
03:21:55,141 --> 03:21:57,141
contain incorrect data.

4452
03:22:00,141 --> 03:22:02,141
the final e.I.r. Is not legally

4453
03:22:02,141 --> 03:22:03,141
adequate.

4454
03:22:03,141 --> 03:22:06,141
we also would request the rights to

4455
03:22:06,141 --> 03:22:09,141
rebut any new data that is presented.

4456
03:22:09,141 --> 03:22:10,141
thank you.

4457
03:22:10,141 --> 03:22:11,141
[applause]

4458
03:22:11,141 --> 03:22:13,141
>> good morning.

4459
03:22:22,141 --> 03:22:25,141
I'm name is dale monson.

4460
03:22:25,141 --> 03:22:28,810
I was a member of the committee that

4461
03:22:28,810 --> 03:22:31,681
rewrote the granite bay community plan.

4462
03:22:32,810 --> 03:22:35,810
I think many of us on that plan

4463
03:22:35,810 --> 03:22:37,810
understand that when you have vacant

4464
03:22:37,810 --> 03:22:41,810
land that the owner has the ability to

4465
03:22:41,810 --> 03:22:43,810
develop that land.

4466
03:22:43,810 --> 03:22:46,681
however, the granite bay community plan

4467
03:22:47,810 --> 03:22:50,810
is a serious, serious document.

4468
03:22:50,810 --> 03:22:52,810
we had developers on that.

4469
03:22:52,810 --> 03:22:54,810
there were a lot of compromises made.

4470
03:22:54,810 --> 03:22:56,810
and I think one of the things that

4471
03:22:56,810 --> 03:23:00,810
causes the community to be so up in arms

4472
03:23:00,810 --> 03:23:04,281
over this particular project and I don't

4473
03:23:05,810 --> 03:23:08,810
think I've sat in a mac community in the

4474
03:23:08,810 --> 03:23:12,810
last 15 years and have somebody stand up

4475
03:23:12,810 --> 03:23:14,810
and talk about recall.

4476
03:23:14,810 --> 03:23:18,810
that has been unheard in granite bay

4477
03:23:18,810 --> 03:23:20,810
because we've been able to compromise on

4478
03:23:20,810 --> 03:23:24,810
things like the granite bay plan and you

4479
03:23:24,810 --> 03:23:27,810
guys have backed us to a degree.

4480
03:23:27,810 --> 03:23:29,210
that's all I want to say about that.

4481
03:23:29,210 --> 03:23:30,210
but there is a bigger problem.

4482
03:23:30,210 --> 03:23:33,210
the bigger problem is those of us that

4483
03:23:33,210 --> 03:23:37,210
live in granite bay take our life in our

4484
03:23:37,210 --> 03:23:41,221
own hands when we travel on douglas

4485
03:23:44,210 --> 03:23:46,210
boulevard and try to cross douglas

4486
03:23:46,210 --> 03:23:49,210
boulevard to go shopping at sierra ponds

4487
03:23:49,210 --> 03:23:52,210
or something like that and here again,

4488
03:23:52,210 --> 03:23:56,821
you're going to say okay to a project

4489
03:23:57,210 --> 03:23:59,210
where people have to come out and can't

4490
03:23:59,210 --> 03:24:01,210
even make a left turn.

4491
03:24:01,210 --> 03:24:04,210
they can't go north, as I understand.

4492
03:24:04,210 --> 03:24:07,210
they have to go right and make a right

4493
03:24:07,210 --> 03:24:10,621
turn on over-subscribed roadway that is

4494
03:24:15,210 --> 03:24:18,621
dangerous already because of the flow

4495
03:24:19,210 --> 03:24:20,210
traffic.

4496
03:24:20,210 --> 03:24:23,210
I don't think that's what's his name's

4497
03:24:23,210 --> 03:24:25,210
problem.

4498
03:24:25,210 --> 03:24:27,210
that is your problem that you need to

4499
03:24:27,210 --> 03:24:29,961
sit down, I have a copy of your

4500
03:24:29,961 --> 03:24:31,961
transportation plan, there is nothing in

4501
03:24:31,961 --> 03:24:36,761
there about, that I saw, I could be

4502
03:24:36,961 --> 03:24:39,961
mistaken, nothing I saw about sierra

4503
03:24:39,961 --> 03:24:40,961
college.

4504
03:24:40,961 --> 03:24:42,961
I saw nothing about douglas boulevard.

4505
03:24:42,961 --> 03:24:45,961
just remember, many of us here feel

4506
03:24:45,961 --> 03:24:48,961
we're taking our life in our hands when

4507
03:24:48,961 --> 03:24:52,961
we cross either one of those and you've

4508
03:24:52,961 --> 03:24:54,961
added one project on top of the other

4509
03:24:54,961 --> 03:24:58,561
and it's like we have transportation

4510
03:24:58,961 --> 03:24:59,961
galore.

4511
03:24:59,961 --> 03:25:00,961
we do not.

4512
03:25:00,961 --> 03:25:02,961
[applause]

4513
03:25:03,961 --> 03:25:08,761
>> so I am speaking on the record here.

4514
03:25:14,961 --> 03:25:16,961
I'm ulysses ludwick.

4515
03:25:17,961 --> 03:25:19,961
I leave in granite bay.

4516
03:25:19,961 --> 03:25:22,961
I moved up here because it's rural and

4517
03:25:22,961 --> 03:25:23,961
we love the schools.

4518
03:25:23,961 --> 03:25:26,961
don't want to see them blown up.

4519
03:25:26,961 --> 03:25:29,901
I want to point out on the proposed

4520
03:25:29,901 --> 03:25:31,901
project site, the developer shows it way

4521
03:25:31,901 --> 03:25:34,901
back where it looks like it's a dense

4522
03:25:34,901 --> 03:25:35,901
area.

4523
03:25:35,901 --> 03:25:37,901
you can clearly see that it's completely

4524
03:25:37,901 --> 03:25:40,901
rural all around this parcel.

4525
03:25:40,901 --> 03:25:42,901
it goes quite far down.

4526
03:25:42,901 --> 03:25:44,901
I have a thumb drive we can actually

4527
03:25:44,901 --> 03:25:46,901
look at it where we're looking at this

4528
03:25:46,901 --> 03:25:50,901
property and three or four of the

4529
03:25:50,901 --> 03:25:52,901
properties south, it's quite rural.

4530
03:25:52,901 --> 03:25:55,901
it's not a dense area, as they say.

4531
03:25:55,901 --> 03:25:57,901
the project is not consistent with the

4532
03:25:57,901 --> 03:25:59,901
goal and policies established in the

4533
03:25:59,901 --> 03:26:01,901
community plan, including land use

4534
03:26:01,901 --> 03:26:03,901
element and design elements.

4535
03:26:03,901 --> 03:26:07,901
the e.I.r. Compares the park to granite

4536
03:26:07,901 --> 03:26:10,901
bay's annabelle, ovations and hawthorne.

4537
03:26:12,901 --> 03:26:15,901
annabelle that will is neither adjacent

4538
03:26:15,901 --> 03:26:18,901
or contiguous to the parcel and as

4539
03:26:18,901 --> 03:26:20,901
required by the placer county general

4540
03:26:20,901 --> 03:26:23,901
plan and granite bay plans, it doesn't

4541
03:26:23,901 --> 03:26:26,901
fit, it doesn't belong there.

4542
03:26:26,901 --> 03:26:28,901
ovation rejected.

4543
03:26:29,841 --> 03:26:31,841
it doesn't feet in the e.I.r.

4544
03:26:31,841 --> 03:26:34,841
that you thorn project is not even --

4545
03:26:34,841 --> 03:26:37,841
hawthorne prompt is not even proposed

4546
03:26:37,841 --> 03:26:38,841
yet.

4547
03:26:38,841 --> 03:26:39,841
it doesn't belong in the e.I.r. Sore

4548
03:26:39,841 --> 03:26:43,841
we're looking at you to approve this on

4549
03:26:43,841 --> 03:26:46,841
an e.I.r. That is not valid.

4550
03:26:46,841 --> 03:26:49,841
next thing is that we have facebook.

4551
03:26:49,841 --> 03:26:53,841
so I to mr. Deluca was talking about

4552
03:26:53,841 --> 03:26:55,841
facebook likes.

4553
03:26:55,841 --> 03:26:56,841
I am a programmer.

4554
03:26:56,841 --> 03:26:59,841
I run a software company out of the bay

4555
03:26:59,841 --> 03:27:00,841
area.

4556
03:27:00,841 --> 03:27:02,841
I live here now but I did a little

4557
03:27:02,841 --> 03:27:03,841
research.

4558
03:27:03,841 --> 03:27:06,841
we have 255 people provided a location.

4559
03:27:06,841 --> 03:27:09,241
in the facebook likes.

4560
03:27:10,841 --> 03:27:12,841
I can hand them in for the record.

4561
03:27:12,841 --> 03:27:15,841
of those 255, 37 mark themselves as

4562
03:27:15,841 --> 03:27:18,241
living in granite bay.

4563
03:27:18,841 --> 03:27:20,841
37 people that said that's a pretty

4564
03:27:20,841 --> 03:27:21,841
picture.

4565
03:27:21,841 --> 03:27:22,841
I knew some people that said that.

4566
03:27:22,841 --> 03:27:25,841
they took their name off of it because

4567
03:27:25,841 --> 03:27:27,781
they didn't want to be associated with

4568
03:27:27,781 --> 03:27:28,781
this project.

4569
03:27:28,781 --> 03:27:29,781
we have here an effort by developer who

4570
03:27:29,781 --> 03:27:33,781
is so compelled to try to garner likes

4571
03:27:33,781 --> 03:27:36,781
for his project that they paid for a

4572
03:27:36,781 --> 03:27:38,781
campaign on facebook.

4573
03:27:38,781 --> 03:27:40,781
by paying for a campaign, there was a

4574
03:27:40,781 --> 03:27:42,781
boom in the number of people who liked

4575
03:27:42,781 --> 03:27:45,781
the project of about 1600 people and

4576
03:27:45,781 --> 03:27:48,781
that boom at the end of the day ended as

4577
03:27:48,781 --> 03:27:50,781
soon as they stopped paying for it.

4578
03:27:50,781 --> 03:27:53,781
there are no more likes since march, I

4579
03:27:53,781 --> 03:27:55,781
believe.

4580
03:27:55,781 --> 03:27:57,781
I just want to make another point is

4581
03:27:57,781 --> 03:27:59,781
that 600 and some of those were actually

4582
03:27:59,781 --> 03:28:01,781
not reelects.

4583
03:28:01,781 --> 03:28:04,781
we have 800 wet physical signatures from

4584
03:28:04,781 --> 03:28:06,781
people that live in the area around that

4585
03:28:06,781 --> 03:28:09,781
property and yet, somehow those likes

4586
03:28:09,781 --> 03:28:12,781
are going to transplant those and take

4587
03:28:12,781 --> 03:28:13,781
over?

4588
03:28:13,781 --> 03:28:16,781
it makes no sense whatsoever.

4589
03:28:17,781 --> 03:28:18,781
thank you very much.

4590
03:28:18,781 --> 03:28:19,781
[applause]

4591
03:28:19,781 --> 03:28:21,781
>> I'm donald sarks.

4592
03:28:40,721 --> 03:28:42,721
I'm an active member of the community.

4593
03:28:42,721 --> 03:28:46,721
I went to oak hills, ridgeview, was

4594
03:28:46,721 --> 03:28:50,721
raised by my parents when I moved to

4595
03:28:50,721 --> 03:28:52,721
granite bay when I was a kid.

4596
03:28:52,721 --> 03:28:54,721
I have a different approach as to what a

4597
03:28:54,721 --> 03:28:55,721
community plan is.

4598
03:28:55,721 --> 03:28:58,721
the community plan is to me, I have a

4599
03:28:58,721 --> 03:28:59,721
4-year-old daughter.

4600
03:28:59,721 --> 03:29:01,721
I want her to be in the same school

4601
03:29:01,721 --> 03:29:03,721
district that I grew up in.

4602
03:29:03,721 --> 03:29:06,721
be taught by the same teachers that

4603
03:29:06,721 --> 03:29:08,721
taught me up through the high school

4604
03:29:08,721 --> 03:29:10,721
levels.

4605
03:29:10,721 --> 03:29:14,721
I coach at granite bay high school and

4606
03:29:14,721 --> 03:29:16,721
have been for the last five years.

4607
03:29:16,721 --> 03:29:19,721
I enjoy the community of granite bay.

4608
03:29:19,721 --> 03:29:20,721
it's a special place.

4609
03:29:20,721 --> 03:29:22,721
for my parents to be able to move in

4610
03:29:22,721 --> 03:29:24,721
this area and have that opportunity for

4611
03:29:24,721 --> 03:29:27,661
my sister and self and see what a

4612
03:29:27,661 --> 03:29:31,261
granite bay community plan looks like.

4613
03:29:31,661 --> 03:29:33,661
enrollment is down.

4614
03:29:35,661 --> 03:29:38,661
not because of playing football.

4615
03:29:38,661 --> 03:29:41,661
there not a lot of young families I went

4616
03:29:41,661 --> 03:29:43,661
to school with back in granite bay.

4617
03:29:43,661 --> 03:29:46,661
it would mean a lot to me to have people

4618
03:29:46,661 --> 03:29:48,661
like that in the same community that

4619
03:29:48,661 --> 03:29:50,661
made this a rich environment for me to

4620
03:29:50,661 --> 03:29:51,661
love and come back.

4621
03:29:51,661 --> 03:29:55,661
I lived sacramento but never lived in

4622
03:29:55,661 --> 03:29:56,661
granite bay.

4623
03:29:56,661 --> 03:29:58,661
to be able to come back and have the

4624
03:29:58,661 --> 03:30:00,661
same advantages that my 4-year-old

4625
03:30:00,661 --> 03:30:02,661
daughter could have and have her

4626
03:30:02,661 --> 03:30:03,661
experience that with the same teachers

4627
03:30:03,661 --> 03:30:07,661
in the third grade or fifth grade it's

4628
03:30:07,661 --> 03:30:08,661
special to me.

4629
03:30:08,661 --> 03:30:10,661
that's a huge deal for me.

4630
03:30:10,661 --> 03:30:12,661
I approve this project and I think the

4631
03:30:12,661 --> 03:30:15,661
granite bay community plan is what it

4632
03:30:15,661 --> 03:30:16,661
is.

4633
03:30:16,661 --> 03:30:20,261
>> could I ask you a question.

4634
03:30:20,661 --> 03:30:24,861
are you dallas sarks of university of

4635
03:30:27,661 --> 03:30:28,661
southern california?

4636
03:30:28,661 --> 03:30:32,861
if you weren't during the texas game

4637
03:30:33,661 --> 03:30:37,261
during the championship, I'll account we

4638
03:30:37,661 --> 03:30:38,661
would be in the championship.

4639
03:30:38,661 --> 03:30:40,661
>> thank you.

4640
03:30:45,661 --> 03:30:46,661
I appreciate that.

4641
03:30:46,661 --> 03:30:48,661
>> I have no idea what you just said.

4642
03:30:48,661 --> 03:30:49,661
>> it's a small community.

4643
03:30:49,661 --> 03:30:51,661
>> I like all the humor.

4644
03:30:51,661 --> 03:30:55,861
I'm nancy barsell, I live in granite

4645
03:30:57,661 --> 03:30:58,661
bay.

4646
03:30:58,661 --> 03:31:01,661
we like the rural area of granite bay.

4647
03:31:01,661 --> 03:31:03,661
in the final supporting facts of the

4648
03:31:03,661 --> 03:31:06,661
e.I.r. For the park at granite bay,

4649
03:31:06,661 --> 03:31:08,661
false assumptions are made.

4650
03:31:08,661 --> 03:31:10,661
this project does not provide a mix of

4651
03:31:10,661 --> 03:31:14,661
housing to survive a mix of families for

4652
03:31:14,661 --> 03:31:16,661
the project proponents.

4653
03:31:16,661 --> 03:31:19,661
the granite bay community plan provides

4654
03:31:19,661 --> 03:31:22,661
a well-thought out mix of housing to

4655
03:31:22,661 --> 03:31:25,661
serve a diverse population accommodating

4656
03:31:26,661 --> 03:31:28,601
various ages and lifestyles.

4657
03:31:28,601 --> 03:31:30,601
this is supported by the county's

4658
03:31:30,601 --> 03:31:33,601
housing element report on file with

4659
03:31:33,601 --> 03:31:34,601
rhna.

4660
03:31:34,601 --> 03:31:36,601
for each housing development described,

4661
03:31:36,601 --> 03:31:39,601
there is no need to rezone to

4662
03:31:39,601 --> 03:31:41,601
accommodate the housing need.

4663
03:31:41,601 --> 03:31:43,601
number two, granite bay was designed as

4664
03:31:43,601 --> 03:31:46,601
a unique rural residential community

4665
03:31:46,601 --> 03:31:48,601
with a mix of densities established in

4666
03:31:48,601 --> 03:31:50,601
the land use elements of the granite bay

4667
03:31:50,601 --> 03:31:52,601
community plan.

4668
03:31:54,601 --> 03:31:57,601
cumulative impact to changes this

4669
03:31:59,601 --> 03:32:03,601
results in a higher percentage of medium

4670
03:32:03,601 --> 03:32:05,601
density residential lots and lower

4671
03:32:05,601 --> 03:32:07,601
percentage of rural residential lots.

4672
03:32:07,601 --> 03:32:10,601
this drastically changes the rural

4673
03:32:11,601 --> 03:32:13,601
characteristics of granite bay.

4674
03:32:13,601 --> 03:32:16,601
this is not consistent with the analyzed

4675
03:32:16,601 --> 03:32:20,801
section of the plan policies in the

4676
03:32:21,601 --> 03:32:25,201
section are formulated to enhance the

4677
03:32:25,601 --> 03:32:29,201
rural and natural of this community.

4678
03:32:29,541 --> 03:32:32,541
this does not provide housing.

4679
03:32:32,541 --> 03:32:35,541
houses types and price range.

4680
03:32:35,541 --> 03:32:37,541
this type of housing is more than

4681
03:32:37,541 --> 03:32:39,541
adequately represented in the existing

4682
03:32:39,541 --> 03:32:40,541
inventory of lots and homes.

4683
03:32:40,541 --> 03:32:43,541
additional medium density lots and

4684
03:32:43,541 --> 03:32:46,541
homes -- will increase available

4685
03:32:51,541 --> 03:32:55,141
inventory to 14 months of supply and

4686
03:32:55,541 --> 03:32:56,541
flooding the market.

4687
03:32:56,541 --> 03:32:57,541
what is currently under represented is

4688
03:32:57,541 --> 03:33:00,541
an inventory of one acre and larger home

4689
03:33:00,541 --> 03:33:01,541
sites.

4690
03:33:01,541 --> 03:33:03,541
four, if this rate of expansion granite

4691
03:33:03,541 --> 03:33:06,541
bay will reach the full build-out

4692
03:33:06,541 --> 03:33:09,541
sometime in 2018 resulting in a 41%

4693
03:33:10,541 --> 03:33:12,941
overbuild over 2,035 projections and

4694
03:33:14,541 --> 03:33:17,541
negatively impact the schools, public

4695
03:33:19,541 --> 03:33:20,541
services.

4696
03:33:20,541 --> 03:33:21,541
emergency responders.

4697
03:33:21,541 --> 03:33:24,541
traffic, overcrowding and jeopardize our

4698
03:33:24,541 --> 03:33:27,481
rural quality which is ohio lighted in

4699
03:33:27,481 --> 03:33:30,481
placer county and granite bay community

4700
03:33:30,481 --> 03:33:31,481
plans.

4701
03:33:31,481 --> 03:33:33,481
the projects as proposed does not serve

4702
03:33:33,481 --> 03:33:36,481
a public necessity or general welfare of

4703
03:33:36,481 --> 03:33:37,481
this community.

4704
03:33:37,481 --> 03:33:40,481
it is harmful to the welfare of all.

4705
03:33:40,481 --> 03:33:43,481
and it does not provide a mix of

4706
03:33:43,481 --> 03:33:44,481
housing.

4707
03:33:44,481 --> 03:33:47,481
it shifts the range of housing by 49% to

4708
03:33:47,481 --> 03:33:50,481
represent 60% of homes for sale.

4709
03:33:50,481 --> 03:33:53,481
the small lot type is not in keeping

4710
03:33:53,481 --> 03:33:55,481
with the rural nature of our community

4711
03:33:55,481 --> 03:33:57,481
and therefore you reject the project as

4712
03:33:57,481 --> 03:33:58,481
proposed.

4713
03:33:58,481 --> 03:33:59,481
thank you.

4714
03:33:59,481 --> 03:34:00,481
[applause]

4715
03:34:00,481 --> 03:34:03,481
>> my name is glen wells.

4716
03:34:11,481 --> 03:34:15,810
I'm in support of the prompt.

4717
03:34:15,481 --> 03:34:18,481
I've been in granite bay for 17 years.

4718
03:34:18,481 --> 03:34:19,481
I love my community.

4719
03:34:19,481 --> 03:34:21,481
I do a lot for it.

4720
03:34:21,481 --> 03:34:23,481
I'm a major sponsor for e.s.f. For the

4721
03:34:23,481 --> 03:34:26,481
last 12 years and continue to do so.

4722
03:34:26,481 --> 03:34:29,421
I moved from sacramento 17 years ago.

4723
03:34:29,421 --> 03:34:32,421
and I have five children.

4724
03:34:32,421 --> 03:34:34,421
three are out of the nest.

4725
03:34:34,421 --> 03:34:36,421
I have two left at home.

4726
03:34:36,421 --> 03:34:38,421
going through the school districts, it's

4727
03:34:38,421 --> 03:34:40,421
everything to me.

4728
03:34:41,421 --> 03:34:42,421
I really, really believe in my

4729
03:34:42,421 --> 03:34:43,421
community.

4730
03:34:43,421 --> 03:34:46,421
I think you need projects like this.

4731
03:34:46,421 --> 03:34:48,421
I'm on a acre and a quarter.

4732
03:34:48,421 --> 03:34:50,421
I have no problem with this whatsoever.

4733
03:34:50,421 --> 03:34:51,421
change is good.

4734
03:34:51,421 --> 03:34:55,421
this big -- big mean, bad developer, I

4735
03:34:55,421 --> 03:34:57,421
know him personally.

4736
03:34:57,421 --> 03:34:59,821
he builds nice projects.

4737
03:35:01,421 --> 03:35:04,421
I would -- as far as the audience goes,

4738
03:35:04,421 --> 03:35:06,421
keep an open mind to change.

4739
03:35:06,421 --> 03:35:09,421
it goes well for us.

4740
03:35:09,421 --> 03:35:10,421
thank you.

4741
03:35:10,421 --> 03:35:12,421
[applause]

4742
03:35:12,421 --> 03:35:14,421
>> good afternoon.

4743
03:35:20,421 --> 03:35:22,421
I'm chris johnson.

4744
03:35:22,421 --> 03:35:26,421
I live in granite bay on shadow brook

4745
03:35:26,421 --> 03:35:27,361
drive.

4746
03:35:27,361 --> 03:35:30,361
we started looking at homes from '87 but

4747
03:35:30,361 --> 03:35:32,361
moved here in 1988.

4748
03:35:37,361 --> 03:35:39,361
I worked for the east chicago planning

4749
03:35:39,361 --> 03:35:40,361
and redevelopment.

4750
03:35:40,361 --> 03:35:44,361
I know a little about what we're talking

4751
03:35:44,361 --> 03:35:45,361
about.

4752
03:35:45,361 --> 03:35:48,361
this project is pitched as an infill

4753
03:35:48,361 --> 03:35:49,361
when it's not.

4754
03:35:49,361 --> 03:35:50,361
this is a spot rezone.

4755
03:35:50,361 --> 03:35:52,761
basically, you're taking 16-acres

4756
03:35:54,361 --> 03:35:56,361
carving 16-acres out of 142-acres.

4757
03:35:56,361 --> 03:35:59,361
that is zoned as agriculture.

4758
03:36:00,361 --> 03:36:02,361
if the project is built from day one,

4759
03:36:02,361 --> 03:36:04,361
there will be a lot of conflicts because

4760
03:36:04,361 --> 03:36:06,361
the people with their small backyards

4761
03:36:06,361 --> 03:36:08,361
are not going to be happy about the

4762
03:36:08,361 --> 03:36:10,361
manure that is happening over the fence

4763
03:36:10,361 --> 03:36:11,361
from them.

4764
03:36:11,361 --> 03:36:13,361
there is always going to be tension.

4765
03:36:13,361 --> 03:36:16,361
another key thing about granite bay and

4766
03:36:16,361 --> 03:36:19,361
why I moved here is I don't know if you

4767
03:36:19,361 --> 03:36:21,361
know this or not, granite bay has the

4768
03:36:21,361 --> 03:36:24,361
highest home ownership percentage of any

4769
03:36:24,361 --> 03:36:28,301
city or community in the state at 89%.

4770
03:36:28,301 --> 03:36:29,301
you have a lot of people here.

4771
03:36:29,301 --> 03:36:33,301
you have 800 some odd people that signed

4772
03:36:33,301 --> 03:36:35,301
petitions and everything else.

4773
03:36:35,301 --> 03:36:37,301
home ownership means you're invested in

4774
03:36:37,301 --> 03:36:39,301
the community.

4775
03:36:39,301 --> 03:36:40,301
these are people that care about the

4776
03:36:40,301 --> 03:36:41,301
community.

4777
03:36:41,301 --> 03:36:42,301
that's why they're here and presenting

4778
03:36:42,301 --> 03:36:43,301
the case to you.

4779
03:36:43,301 --> 03:36:46,301
I don't know, you may or may not own a

4780
03:36:46,301 --> 03:36:49,301
home in granite bay, but it's a pretty

4781
03:36:49,301 --> 03:36:50,301
darned good community.

4782
03:36:50,301 --> 03:36:52,701
it's not necessarily elitist.

4783
03:36:53,301 --> 03:36:57,301
so many aspects of this project are in

4784
03:36:57,301 --> 03:36:59,301
complete opposition to the granite bay

4785
03:36:59,301 --> 03:37:00,301
plan.

4786
03:37:00,301 --> 03:37:02,301
our community developed over the years

4787
03:37:02,301 --> 03:37:05,301
since this -- and I've lived here since

4788
03:37:05,301 --> 03:37:08,301
the plan was approved in '89, it's the

4789
03:37:08,301 --> 03:37:10,301
foundation for why this is a community

4790
03:37:10,301 --> 03:37:12,301
that has a high percentage of

4791
03:37:12,301 --> 03:37:13,301
homeowners.

4792
03:37:13,301 --> 03:37:15,301
people invested and caring about the

4793
03:37:15,301 --> 03:37:16,301
community and want to make sure the

4794
03:37:16,301 --> 03:37:18,301
right things happen.

4795
03:37:19,301 --> 03:37:22,301
to disrupt the granite bay plan could to

4796
03:37:22,301 --> 03:37:24,301
build a project that only satisfies

4797
03:37:24,301 --> 03:37:27,241
developers wants shows a total disregard

4798
03:37:27,241 --> 03:37:28,241
for the community at large.

4799
03:37:28,241 --> 03:37:31,241
there is no compelling reason to build

4800
03:37:31,241 --> 03:37:33,241
at this density as the population is

4801
03:37:33,241 --> 03:37:36,241
only expected to increase at 5% over the

4802
03:37:36,241 --> 03:37:39,241
next 10 years, a total of 5%.

4803
03:37:39,241 --> 03:37:41,241
that's in the different studies the

4804
03:37:41,241 --> 03:37:42,241
county paid for.

4805
03:37:42,241 --> 03:37:44,241
if we build this project, it's going to

4806
03:37:44,241 --> 03:37:47,241
be the lowest quality, lowest value of

4807
03:37:47,241 --> 03:37:48,241
anything built since the plan was

4808
03:37:48,241 --> 03:37:49,241
approved.

4809
03:37:49,241 --> 03:37:53,241
why are we sacrificing good property for

4810
03:37:53,241 --> 03:37:54,241
this?

4811
03:37:54,241 --> 03:37:56,241
there is no good reason.

4812
03:37:56,241 --> 03:38:01,410
the only -- the only thing that bothers

4813
03:38:01,241 --> 03:38:04,241
me about this is our supervisor seems

4814
03:38:04,241 --> 03:38:06,241
committed to making this happen.

4815
03:38:06,241 --> 03:38:09,241
it's going to benefit his office suite

4816
03:38:09,241 --> 03:38:12,841
neighbor john tattersall at the same

4817
03:38:13,241 --> 03:38:15,241
address as kirk and damaging to the

4818
03:38:15,241 --> 03:38:17,241
entire community.

4819
03:38:17,241 --> 03:38:19,241
what I want you to do and think about

4820
03:38:19,241 --> 03:38:21,241
this, because we have so many projects

4821
03:38:21,241 --> 03:38:24,241
coming through, please reject this

4822
03:38:25,241 --> 03:38:26,241
project.

4823
03:38:26,241 --> 03:38:27,181
thank you.

4824
03:38:27,181 --> 03:38:28,181
[applause]

4825
03:38:28,181 --> 03:38:30,181
>> good afternoon.

4826
03:38:39,181 --> 03:38:41,181
I'm john bolter.

4827
03:38:41,181 --> 03:38:44,181
I never thought I'd have to be up here

4828
03:38:44,181 --> 03:38:46,181
and be discussing something like this.

4829
03:38:46,181 --> 03:38:50,381
I've lived in granite bay over 20 years.

4830
03:38:52,181 --> 03:38:54,181
before that I grew up in the bay area

4831
03:38:54,181 --> 03:38:56,181
and I watched every community in the bay

4832
03:38:56,181 --> 03:38:58,181
area do exactly what you're talking

4833
03:38:58,181 --> 03:38:59,181
about doing here.

4834
03:38:59,181 --> 03:39:03,381
taking one small infill project and then

4835
03:39:04,181 --> 03:39:05,181
there are more.

4836
03:39:05,181 --> 03:39:07,181
what you do is you take a community like

4837
03:39:07,181 --> 03:39:10,181
granite bay which is a great place to

4838
03:39:10,181 --> 03:39:12,181
live that is not dense, that's not west

4839
03:39:12,181 --> 03:39:14,181
roseville or other parts of placer

4840
03:39:14,181 --> 03:39:16,581
county, it's granite bay.

4841
03:39:17,181 --> 03:39:20,781
granite bay has a certain feel.

4842
03:39:23,181 --> 03:39:25,181
this says take one to three acres and

4843
03:39:25,181 --> 03:39:29,121
two do it two to four dwellings her ache

4844
03:39:29,121 --> 03:39:34,121
or more and put -- acre or more and let

4845
03:39:34,121 --> 03:39:37,121
them build 50 to 60% on a house.

4846
03:39:37,121 --> 03:39:40,121
I watched that in my lifetime and what

4847
03:39:40,121 --> 03:39:42,121
happens is there are more.

4848
03:39:42,121 --> 03:39:44,121
and it's like cockroaches.

4849
03:39:44,121 --> 03:39:46,121
when you see one there are more.

4850
03:39:46,121 --> 03:39:48,121
that's exactly what I see happening

4851
03:39:48,121 --> 03:39:49,121
here.

4852
03:39:49,121 --> 03:39:51,121
I could go through all the same numbers

4853
03:39:51,121 --> 03:39:52,121
that you heard from everybody else and

4854
03:39:52,121 --> 03:39:55,121
it doesn't make sense that you need

4855
03:39:55,121 --> 03:39:56,121
though hear from people that live here

4856
03:39:56,121 --> 03:39:58,121
that have lived here and raised their

4857
03:39:58,121 --> 03:40:00,121
kids here and the idea is that the

4858
03:40:00,121 --> 03:40:03,121
amount of space that we have doesn't

4859
03:40:03,121 --> 03:40:04,121
need to be jammed.

4860
03:40:04,121 --> 03:40:05,121
like the project that you're

4861
03:40:05,121 --> 03:40:06,121
considering.

4862
03:40:06,121 --> 03:40:10,921
so I am requesting that you deny this

4863
03:40:11,121 --> 03:40:13,121
project like it appears that most of

4864
03:40:13,121 --> 03:40:16,721
community has spoke about through the

4865
03:40:17,121 --> 03:40:18,121
process.

4866
03:40:18,121 --> 03:40:19,121
thank you.

4867
03:40:19,121 --> 03:40:20,121
[applause]

4868
03:40:20,121 --> 03:40:24,321
>> good morning, my name is sandy harris

4869
03:40:32,121 --> 03:40:34,121
and I live in granite bay.

4870
03:40:34,121 --> 03:40:36,121
the granite bay community association

4871
03:40:36,121 --> 03:40:40,121
had john come to our board meeting on a

4872
03:40:40,121 --> 03:40:41,121
couple of occasions.

4873
03:40:41,121 --> 03:40:43,121
we tried working with him.

4874
03:40:43,121 --> 03:40:45,121
we were overwhelmed with the density he

4875
03:40:45,121 --> 03:40:48,121
was borough posing for the projects.

4876
03:40:48,121 --> 03:40:50,121
we told him, talk to the neighbors and

4877
03:40:50,121 --> 03:40:52,121
come back with something more

4878
03:40:52,121 --> 03:40:53,121
reasonable.

4879
03:40:53,121 --> 03:40:54,121
starting with what he started and what

4880
03:40:54,121 --> 03:40:56,121
he's ended up with is what a lot of

4881
03:40:56,121 --> 03:40:59,721
people think is a development trick.

4882
03:41:00,121 --> 03:41:03,121
tell you we'll put in a hundred and

4883
03:41:03,121 --> 03:41:05,121
compromise for 50, that's not a win-win

4884
03:41:05,121 --> 03:41:06,121
at all.

4885
03:41:06,121 --> 03:41:08,121
the community association has supported

4886
03:41:08,121 --> 03:41:11,121
john on some of his other projects.

4887
03:41:11,121 --> 03:41:14,121
and he does do a nice job.

4888
03:41:14,121 --> 03:41:17,121
this isn't personal, john, I like him a

4889
03:41:17,121 --> 03:41:18,121
lot.

4890
03:41:18,121 --> 03:41:22,321
but this is not consistent with the

4891
03:41:23,121 --> 03:41:24,121
community plan.

4892
03:41:24,121 --> 03:41:25,121
we did a survey monkey.

4893
03:41:25,121 --> 03:41:28,610
the number one reason people move to

4894
03:41:28,610 --> 03:41:31,610
granite bay is the low density large

4895
03:41:31,610 --> 03:41:32,610
lots.

4896
03:41:32,610 --> 03:41:34,610
second reason is the rural character,

4897
03:41:34,610 --> 03:41:37,610
the third reason was the quality of

4898
03:41:37,610 --> 03:41:38,610
schools.

4899
03:41:38,610 --> 03:41:41,610
and surprising to me, folsom lake was

4900
03:41:41,610 --> 03:41:42,610
down at the bottom.

4901
03:41:42,610 --> 03:41:45,610
I thought most people came to our area

4902
03:41:45,610 --> 03:41:46,610
for the lake but they don't.

4903
03:41:46,610 --> 03:41:48,610
I'm concerned with the project.

4904
03:41:48,610 --> 03:41:50,610
they say they're going to have a 15-foot

4905
03:41:50,610 --> 03:41:52,610
landscape buffer.

4906
03:41:52,610 --> 03:41:54,610
it's going to be on the inside of the

4907
03:41:54,610 --> 03:41:55,610
fence.

4908
03:41:55,610 --> 03:41:58,610
how does that buffer the people who live

4909
03:41:58,610 --> 03:42:01,610
on the other side and how are they going

4910
03:42:01,610 --> 03:42:04,661
to control this easement for 15 feet,

4911
03:42:06,610 --> 03:42:08,610
the home owners association going to be

4912
03:42:08,610 --> 03:42:09,610
responsible for it?

4913
03:42:09,610 --> 03:42:11,610
how will they police it?

4914
03:42:11,610 --> 03:42:13,610
that buffer should be on the out side of

4915
03:42:13,610 --> 03:42:14,610
the fence.

4916
03:42:14,610 --> 03:42:15,610
another concern I have is about this

4917
03:42:15,610 --> 03:42:16,610
park.

4918
03:42:16,610 --> 03:42:20,610
it's a public park in a private gated

4919
03:42:20,610 --> 03:42:21,610
community.

4920
03:42:21,610 --> 03:42:22,610
the homeowners will have to pay for the

4921
03:42:22,610 --> 03:42:23,610
road.

4922
03:42:23,610 --> 03:42:25,610
they'll have to pay for gate.

4923
03:42:25,610 --> 03:42:28,100
they had to pay to maintain the park.

4924
03:42:28,100 --> 03:42:30,100
what's this going to do to this

4925
03:42:30,100 --> 03:42:33,100
affordable housing community when you

4926
03:42:34,100 --> 03:42:37,100
were to pay such high homeowners dues

4927
03:42:37,100 --> 03:42:38,100
for the maintenance?

4928
03:42:38,100 --> 03:42:40,100
the liability insurance will be high on

4929
03:42:40,100 --> 03:42:42,100
it and I think it will create parking

4930
03:42:42,100 --> 03:42:45,100
problems within this gated community

4931
03:42:46,100 --> 03:42:49,100
when the people using that park decide

4932
03:42:49,100 --> 03:42:50,100
to park on their streets.

4933
03:42:50,100 --> 03:42:53,100
I'm afraid that eventually the home

4934
03:42:53,100 --> 03:42:55,100
owners will get together and vote to do

4935
03:42:55,100 --> 03:42:57,100
away with that park and part of the

4936
03:42:57,100 --> 03:43:00,100
reason for this project is that they're

4937
03:43:00,100 --> 03:43:02,100
going to have a public park.

4938
03:43:02,100 --> 03:43:03,100
there needs to be a condition and

4939
03:43:03,100 --> 03:43:06,100
approvals if you decide to approve this

4940
03:43:06,100 --> 03:43:08,100
that that park cannot be voted out.

4941
03:43:08,100 --> 03:43:10,401
that is in perpetuity.

4942
03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:15,100
I don't think this project is compelling

4943
03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:18,100
enough to be awarded all the

4944
03:43:18,100 --> 03:43:21,100
entitlements and variances that they're

4945
03:43:21,100 --> 03:43:22,100
seeking.

4946
03:43:22,100 --> 03:43:26,201
I think the alternative would be a

4947
03:43:27,941 --> 03:43:28,941
better project.

4948
03:43:28,941 --> 03:43:30,941
we started meet with john in october of

4949
03:43:30,941 --> 03:43:32,941
2013 which was a year and a half after

4950
03:43:32,941 --> 03:43:34,941
the community plan was adopted.

4951
03:43:34,941 --> 03:43:37,941
they knew full well what the expense on

4952
03:43:37,941 --> 03:43:39,941
it was and what the costs might have to

4953
03:43:39,941 --> 03:43:41,941
be when you take it through an

4954
03:43:41,941 --> 03:43:43,941
environment the document process.

4955
03:43:43,941 --> 03:43:44,941
thank you anyway.

4956
03:43:44,941 --> 03:43:46,941
[applause]

4957
03:43:46,941 --> 03:43:48,941
>> good afternoon.

4958
03:43:52,941 --> 03:43:56,541
my name is ryan perry smith.

4959
03:43:56,941 --> 03:43:59,941
it pains me to say this, but I'm a 40

4960
03:43:59,941 --> 03:44:01,941
year resident of granite bay.

4961
03:44:01,941 --> 03:44:04,941
soy guess that was before it was granite

4962
03:44:04,941 --> 03:44:05,941
bay.

4963
03:44:05,941 --> 03:44:06,941
gone through all the schools in the

4964
03:44:06,941 --> 03:44:08,941
eureka school district.

4965
03:44:08,941 --> 03:44:11,941
went to oakmont high school.

4966
03:44:11,941 --> 03:44:14,941
went away for a few years and came back

4967
03:44:14,941 --> 03:44:17,941
and I was fortunate to get a house in

4968
03:44:17,941 --> 03:44:19,941
tree lake.

4969
03:44:19,941 --> 03:44:21,941
I've seen and witnessed the great change

4970
03:44:21,941 --> 03:44:24,941
through granite bay and through our

4971
03:44:24,941 --> 03:44:25,941
community.

4972
03:44:25,941 --> 03:44:28,881
my main focus with all this, I served on

4973
03:44:28,881 --> 03:44:31,281
the eureka school board.

4974
03:44:31,881 --> 03:44:33,881
I got to see a little bit behind the

4975
03:44:33,881 --> 03:44:35,881
scenes of the finances within the

4976
03:44:35,881 --> 03:44:36,881
schools and I want to make sure that we

4977
03:44:36,881 --> 03:44:38,881
understand the difference between the

4978
03:44:38,881 --> 03:44:40,881
high school district which is roseville

4979
03:44:40,881 --> 03:44:43,881
and the southern elementary and middle

4980
03:44:43,881 --> 03:44:46,881
and junior high schools that the eureka

4981
03:44:46,881 --> 03:44:49,881
school district is focused on and the

4982
03:44:49,881 --> 03:44:51,881
declining enrollment.

4983
03:44:51,881 --> 03:44:54,881
as an esf board member.

4984
03:44:54,881 --> 03:44:57,881
we'd walk down douglas and say if you

4985
03:44:57,881 --> 03:44:59,881
work here, your kids could go to school

4986
03:44:59,881 --> 03:45:00,881
here.

4987
03:45:00,881 --> 03:45:02,881
that means you can live anywhere in the

4988
03:45:02,881 --> 03:45:04,881
area and if you work near the school,

4989
03:45:04,881 --> 03:45:07,881
your kids can go to school here.

4990
03:45:07,881 --> 03:45:09,881
a project like this and aim very much

4991
03:45:09,881 --> 03:45:12,881
for this project will bring kids, local

4992
03:45:12,881 --> 03:45:15,881
kids and we're not necessarily

4993
03:45:15,881 --> 03:45:18,281
offsetting declining enrollment but

4994
03:45:18,881 --> 03:45:21,881
offset kids that are not in the

4995
03:45:21,881 --> 03:45:22,881
district.

4996
03:45:22,881 --> 03:45:24,881
your kids are in the district you have a

4997
03:45:24,881 --> 03:45:25,881
vested interest in the district.

4998
03:45:25,881 --> 03:45:29,821
you're here and you're available and you

4999
03:45:29,821 --> 03:45:30,821
would be in a community like this

5000
03:45:30,821 --> 03:45:31,821
whether it's soccer practice or the

5001
03:45:31,821 --> 03:45:36,621
other things that go on, you're part of

5002
03:45:37,821 --> 03:45:38,821
the community.

5003
03:45:38,821 --> 03:45:39,821
I appreciate your time and I appreciate

5004
03:45:39,821 --> 03:45:42,821
the feedback and the talk that's what

5005
03:45:42,821 --> 03:45:44,821
this is all about.

5006
03:45:44,821 --> 03:45:46,821
but at the end of the day, I hope this

5007
03:45:46,821 --> 03:45:48,821
project is approved for our schools and

5008
03:45:48,821 --> 03:45:49,821
for our future.

5009
03:45:49,821 --> 03:45:50,821
thank you.

5010
03:45:50,821 --> 03:45:53,821
>> my name is jeff sarks.

5011
03:46:00,821 --> 03:46:02,821
I'm here in support of project.

5012
03:46:02,821 --> 03:46:06,821
I lived in the grant bay community for

5013
03:46:06,821 --> 03:46:07,821
25 years.

5014
03:46:07,821 --> 03:46:08,821
I moved here for the schools.

5015
03:46:08,821 --> 03:46:11,821
my son just talked earlier.

5016
03:46:11,821 --> 03:46:14,821
it's been hard for young families to

5017
03:46:14,821 --> 03:46:15,821
move in here.

5018
03:46:15,821 --> 03:46:17,821
for him to buy a house in the granite

5019
03:46:17,821 --> 03:46:19,821
bay area is not going to happen until we

5020
03:46:19,821 --> 03:46:21,821
have more projects like this where we

5021
03:46:21,821 --> 03:46:24,221
have more affordable housing.

5022
03:46:24,821 --> 03:46:30,821
I only live -- well, I'd be close to the

5023
03:46:33,761 --> 03:46:34,761
project.

5024
03:46:34,761 --> 03:46:36,761
but I drive past the project every day.

5025
03:46:36,761 --> 03:46:38,761
it's a field sitting there.

5026
03:46:38,761 --> 03:46:41,761
when you go up to the corner of eureka

5027
03:46:41,761 --> 03:46:43,761
and roseville there are a lot of

5028
03:46:43,761 --> 03:46:45,761
businesses out of business and there

5029
03:46:45,761 --> 03:46:49,761
were local people that tried to start

5030
03:46:49,761 --> 03:46:53,361
local businesses up and down sierra

5031
03:46:53,761 --> 03:46:54,761
college.

5032
03:46:54,761 --> 03:46:55,761
I think something like this would help

5033
03:46:55,761 --> 03:46:57,761
support more local businesses where they

5034
03:46:57,761 --> 03:47:01,361
could actually walk at nighttime or

5035
03:47:01,761 --> 03:47:02,761
whatever to get up.

5036
03:47:02,761 --> 03:47:05,761
I think the park as I live right by

5037
03:47:05,761 --> 03:47:06,761
hillsborough.

5038
03:47:06,761 --> 03:47:09,761
the park is a good idea.

5039
03:47:09,761 --> 03:47:12,761
hillsborough park is full every day.

5040
03:47:12,761 --> 03:47:13,761
team after team.

5041
03:47:13,761 --> 03:47:15,761
which is a good thing, but the little

5042
03:47:15,761 --> 03:47:18,761
park, if we could alleviate the pressure

5043
03:47:18,761 --> 03:47:23,561
off the other -- off the other parks,

5044
03:47:25,761 --> 03:47:27,701
that's a win-win situation.

5045
03:47:27,701 --> 03:47:28,701
I'm in support of the project and I

5046
03:47:28,701 --> 03:47:29,701
think the community needs this.

5047
03:47:29,701 --> 03:47:30,701
thanks.

5048
03:47:30,701 --> 03:47:34,901
>> I'm veronica [inaudible] c.e.o. Of

5049
03:47:40,701 --> 03:47:41,701
placer community foundation.

5050
03:47:41,701 --> 03:47:43,701
I'll be brief.

5051
03:47:44,701 --> 03:47:47,701
last week it showed that 42% of the

5052
03:47:47,701 --> 03:47:49,701
residents are paying more than 30% of

5053
03:47:49,701 --> 03:47:51,701
their income on housing.

5054
03:47:51,701 --> 03:47:53,701
the county needs housing that is

5055
03:47:53,701 --> 03:47:56,101
attainable for the workforce.

5056
03:47:56,701 --> 03:47:58,701
while I'm not sure what the basis is for

5057
03:47:58,701 --> 03:48:01,701
the fee in lieu, we need to have a

5058
03:48:01,701 --> 03:48:05,301
broader conversation on how the county

5059
03:48:07,701 --> 03:48:10,701
can work to construct the units.

5060
03:48:10,701 --> 03:48:14,701
>> we have a full group three plus more.

5061
03:48:14,701 --> 03:48:17,701
I think it would be start in to take a

5062
03:48:17,701 --> 03:48:18,701
break.

5063
03:48:18,701 --> 03:48:19,701
quick lunch break.

5064
03:48:19,701 --> 03:48:22,701
so we'll take a quick --

5065
03:48:22,701 --> 03:48:24,701
>> 15 minutes?

5066
03:48:24,701 --> 03:48:26,641
>> supervisor weygandt: how about half

5067
03:48:26,641 --> 03:48:27,641
an hour quick.

5068
03:48:27,641 --> 03:48:29,641
in case we want to take up closed

5069
03:48:29,641 --> 03:48:33,841
session -- actually, if you could have

5070
03:48:37,641 --> 03:48:40,641
three minutes per person, you have 30

5071
03:48:40,641 --> 03:48:42,641
minutes plus we have stuff to come back

5072
03:48:42,641 --> 03:48:46,241
to in terms of non-department items.

5073
03:48:46,641 --> 03:48:48,641
we have a full board meeting for the

5074
03:48:48,641 --> 03:48:51,410
west rest of us.

5075
03:48:53,647 --> 03:48:55,648
any compelling feelings one way or the

5076
03:48:55,648 --> 03:48:57,648
other?

5077
03:49:03,648 --> 03:49:05,648
let's take a lunch break.

5078
03:49:05,648 --> 03:49:06,648
okay.

5079
03:49:06,648 --> 03:49:10,848
we'll be back in half an hour.

5080
03:49:17,703 --> 03:49:21,245
>> we'll adjourn to closed session to

5081
03:49:21,245 --> 03:49:23,100
discuss the two workers compensation

5082
03:49:23,100 --> 03:49:25,100
items.

5083
03:49:25,726 --> 03:49:29,326
the other existing item, gomes versus

5084
03:49:30,362 --> 03:49:33,962
[inaudible] is not ready for discussion.

5085
04:19:15,960 --> 04:19:18,360
>> hearing, we are reconvening

5086
04:19:19,960 --> 04:19:22,960
from lunch and closed session.

5087
04:19:22,961 --> 04:19:23,961
county council will report out

5088
04:19:23,961 --> 04:19:25,961
as to closed session.

5089
04:19:25,961 --> 04:19:28,961
>> the board has returned from

5090
04:19:29,901 --> 04:19:32,901
close session where we had a

5091
04:19:32,901 --> 04:19:33,901
council on two worker

5092
04:19:33,901 --> 04:19:34,901
compensation matters.

5093
04:19:34,901 --> 04:19:37,901
the board heard reports on both

5094
04:19:37,901 --> 04:19:39,901
items and gave direction to

5095
04:19:39,901 --> 04:19:42,901
council on the remaining item as

5096
04:19:42,901 --> 04:19:43,901
I noted before.

5097
04:19:43,901 --> 04:19:46,901
morgan gomes versus nick boone.

5098
04:19:46,901 --> 04:19:47,901
the board did not discuss the

5099
04:19:47,901 --> 04:19:49,901
matter, it was not ready at this

5100
04:19:49,901 --> 04:19:51,901
time.

5101
04:19:51,901 --> 04:19:52,901
that concludes the report.

5102
04:19:52,901 --> 04:19:55,301
>> we'll restart the public

5103
04:19:55,901 --> 04:19:56,901
hearing with beginning of group

5104
04:19:56,901 --> 04:19:57,901
three.

5105
04:19:57,901 --> 04:20:00,901
>> I'm a resident of granite

5106
04:20:10,901 --> 04:20:11,901
bay.

5107
04:20:11,901 --> 04:20:13,901
I walked my dog back here

5108
04:20:13,901 --> 04:20:15,901
several times.

5109
04:20:15,901 --> 04:20:18,901
come down, I come down sierra

5110
04:20:18,901 --> 04:20:19,901
college with my dog.

5111
04:20:19,901 --> 04:20:21,901
look at this land and say, what

5112
04:20:21,901 --> 04:20:23,901
a great opportunity.

5113
04:20:24,901 --> 04:20:26,901
then I turn on to the bike path

5114
04:20:26,901 --> 04:20:31,101
and I look over to the meadows

5115
04:20:33,901 --> 04:20:35,901
development and say what a lost

5116
04:20:35,901 --> 04:20:36,901
opportunity.

5117
04:20:36,901 --> 04:20:37,901
the meadows project doesn't do

5118
04:20:37,901 --> 04:20:38,901
the job.

5119
04:20:38,901 --> 04:20:40,901
in my estimation.

5120
04:20:41,901 --> 04:20:43,901
this is the kind of development

5121
04:20:43,901 --> 04:20:44,901
we need.

5122
04:20:44,901 --> 04:20:46,901
I got a flyer in the mail

5123
04:20:46,901 --> 04:20:48,901
posting the project.

5124
04:20:48,901 --> 04:20:49,901
I was a little confused.

5125
04:20:49,901 --> 04:20:51,901
I looked at this bottom of the

5126
04:20:51,901 --> 04:20:52,901
picture and thought that is a

5127
04:20:52,901 --> 04:20:54,901
great-looking project.

5128
04:20:54,901 --> 04:20:56,901
that's what I'd like to see in

5129
04:20:56,901 --> 04:20:57,901
our community.

5130
04:20:57,901 --> 04:20:58,901
it was a project of this is the

5131
04:20:58,901 --> 04:21:00,901
dire thing that you're going to

5132
04:21:00,901 --> 04:21:02,901
see that is going to be defense

5133
04:21:02,901 --> 04:21:03,901
your project.

5134
04:21:03,901 --> 04:21:05,901
I was taken aback by that

5135
04:21:05,901 --> 04:21:06,901
visual.

5136
04:21:06,901 --> 04:21:08,901
I have young kids.

5137
04:21:08,901 --> 04:21:11,901
you've heard mr. Sarks get up

5138
04:21:11,901 --> 04:21:13,901
and talk about how he wants them

5139
04:21:13,901 --> 04:21:15,901
to live in granite bay.

5140
04:21:15,901 --> 04:21:17,901
I have young kids.

5141
04:21:17,901 --> 04:21:19,901
they lived on abilene?

5142
04:21:19,901 --> 04:21:21,901
what what's the name of the

5143
04:21:21,901 --> 04:21:22,901
street?

5144
04:21:22,901 --> 04:21:23,901
anna belle.

5145
04:21:23,901 --> 04:21:27,501
they looked on anna belle and

5146
04:21:27,901 --> 04:21:29,841
looked at a house and couldn't

5147
04:21:29,841 --> 04:21:31,841
afford it.

5148
04:21:31,841 --> 04:21:33,841
they bought in downtown

5149
04:21:33,841 --> 04:21:35,841
roseville, but they would have

5150
04:21:35,841 --> 04:21:37,841
loved to be in our area.

5151
04:21:37,841 --> 04:21:38,841
I'm concerned about the lack of

5152
04:21:38,841 --> 04:21:41,841
housing in our -- next

5153
04:21:41,841 --> 04:21:43,841
generation to come and live in

5154
04:21:43,841 --> 04:21:47,441
granite bay -- wondering what is

5155
04:21:47,841 --> 04:21:48,841
going to happen to me.

5156
04:21:48,841 --> 04:21:49,841
this could be a great

5157
04:21:49,841 --> 04:21:51,841
opportunity for my wife and I.

5158
04:21:51,841 --> 04:21:53,841
the large lot.

5159
04:21:53,841 --> 04:21:55,841
the large square footage is not

5160
04:21:55,841 --> 04:21:57,841
getting any easier to take care

5161
04:21:57,841 --> 04:21:58,841
of.

5162
04:21:58,841 --> 04:21:59,841
having a project like this would

5163
04:21:59,841 --> 04:22:01,841
be a fantastic addition to our

5164
04:22:01,841 --> 04:22:04,241
community in my estimation.

5165
04:22:04,841 --> 04:22:06,841
john, you're doing a great job.

5166
04:22:06,841 --> 04:22:07,841
so thank you.

5167
04:22:07,841 --> 04:22:09,841
>> good afternoon.

5168
04:22:14,841 --> 04:22:15,841
I'm jeff powers.

5169
04:22:15,841 --> 04:22:18,841
I live in granite bay.

5170
04:23:21,653 --> 04:23:24,780
and resident of granite bay and every

5171
04:23:24,780 --> 04:23:26,781
time you make a decision, you make

5172
04:23:26,781 --> 04:23:29,781
one person happy and one person

5173
04:23:29,781 --> 04:23:32,781
mad and I can appreciate what you do.

5174
04:23:32,781 --> 04:23:34,781
you represent the community and I'm a

5175
04:23:34,781 --> 04:23:36,781
little league coach and on the board

5176
04:23:36,781 --> 04:23:38,781
currently and raised almost $500,000

5177
04:23:38,781 --> 04:23:40,781
for the district and run the

5178
04:23:40,781 --> 04:23:41,781
tournament, the golf tournament and

5179
04:23:41,781 --> 04:23:44,781
live in granite bay and I have two

5180
04:23:44,781 --> 04:23:47,781
kids, a wife that works in the county

5181
04:23:47,781 --> 04:23:49,781
and I work through the county and

5182
04:23:49,781 --> 04:23:50,781
other counties.

5183
04:23:50,781 --> 04:23:51,781
I'm for this project because you have

5184
04:23:51,781 --> 04:23:53,781
to look at every project as an

5185
04:23:53,781 --> 04:23:54,781
individual project.

5186
04:23:54,781 --> 04:23:58,981
the location of this project off the

5187
04:24:00,781 --> 04:24:01,781
streets it is off and size of the

5188
04:24:01,781 --> 04:24:03,781
project and I ask you to look at

5189
04:24:03,781 --> 04:24:05,781
project as individuals.

5190
04:24:05,781 --> 04:24:06,781
I'm not for every project in granite

5191
04:24:06,781 --> 04:24:07,781
bay.

5192
04:24:07,781 --> 04:24:10,781
I'm for this project because I feel

5193
04:24:10,781 --> 04:24:13,781
it fits the partial and fits the area

5194
04:24:13,781 --> 04:24:14,721
and I ask you to approve this project

5195
04:24:14,721 --> 04:24:17,721
-- not every project, but

5196
04:24:18,721 --> 04:24:22,721
ask you to approve the park project,

5197
04:24:22,721 --> 04:24:26,321
thank you very much chair weygandt

5198
04:24:28,721 --> 04:24:30,721
and members of the board, I'm here on

5199
04:24:30,721 --> 04:24:31,721
behalf of the roseville area chamber

5200
04:24:31,721 --> 04:24:33,721
of commerce.

5201
04:24:34,721 --> 04:24:36,721
our chamber proudly serves and as

5202
04:24:36,721 --> 04:24:38,721
served the community of granite bay

5203
04:24:38,721 --> 04:24:40,721
since 1999 when the chamber closed

5204
04:24:40,721 --> 04:24:42,721
its doors and we're here today to

5205
04:24:42,721 --> 04:24:46,321
support the park at granite bay.

5206
04:24:46,721 --> 04:24:48,721
we think one of the key things on

5207
04:24:48,721 --> 04:24:49,721
this is the housing option that there

5208
04:24:49,721 --> 04:24:50,721
provide.

5209
04:24:50,721 --> 04:24:54,321
we have heard about the declining

5210
04:25:00,721 --> 04:25:02,721
enrollment at eureka school and will

5211
04:25:02,721 --> 04:25:03,721
provide for young family come into

5212
04:25:03,721 --> 04:25:05,721
the area and start the

5213
04:25:05,721 --> 04:25:06,721
next-generation of people being

5214
04:25:06,721 --> 04:25:07,721
involved in the community,

5215
04:25:07,721 --> 04:25:09,721
playing sports.

5216
04:25:09,721 --> 04:25:14,661
I also think or we think that park is

5217
04:25:14,661 --> 04:25:17,661
an added benefit for all of granite

5218
04:25:17,661 --> 04:25:19,661
bay to enjoy and embracing their

5219
04:25:19,661 --> 04:25:23,661
motto, "live and play in granite bay."

5220
04:25:23,661 --> 04:25:25,661
this housing option is critical

5221
04:25:25,661 --> 04:25:27,661
for the workforce as we attempt to

5222
04:25:27,661 --> 04:25:31,861
bring in no ew jobs and provide

5223
04:25:32,661 --> 04:25:33,661
housing options and retain those

5224
04:25:33,661 --> 04:25:35,661
employees in the area and give them

5225
04:25:35,661 --> 04:25:38,661
places to live close to where they

5226
04:25:38,661 --> 04:25:42,861
work infill is in the easiest thing

5227
04:25:46,661 --> 04:25:49,661
to do and with that said, the park at

5228
04:25:49,661 --> 04:25:51,661
roseville -- park at granite

5229
04:25:51,661 --> 04:25:53,661
bay, close to roseville will again

5230
04:25:53,661 --> 04:25:55,661
provide housing options.

5231
04:25:55,661 --> 04:25:58,661
it also aligns with the blueprint

5232
04:25:58,661 --> 04:26:02,261
project that was adopted back in 2004.

5233
04:26:03,661 --> 04:26:04,661
and again, one size does not fit all

5234
04:26:04,661 --> 04:26:06,661
and I think we need to take that into

5235
04:26:06,661 --> 04:26:08,661
consideration.

5236
04:26:12,661 --> 04:26:13,661
with that we would encourage you to

5237
04:26:13,661 --> 04:26:15,601
adopt the planning commission's

5238
04:26:15,601 --> 04:26:17,601
recommendation and support the park at

5239
04:26:17,601 --> 04:26:20,100
granite bay, thank you.

5240
04:26:24,601 --> 04:26:26,601
>> good afternoon my name is michael

5241
04:26:26,601 --> 04:26:29,601
murphy a residence for 13-and-a-half

5242
04:26:29,601 --> 04:26:30,601
years in granite bay and thank you

5243
04:26:30,601 --> 04:26:31,601
for having me this afternoon and

5244
04:26:31,601 --> 04:26:33,601
being able to speak in front of you.

5245
04:26:33,601 --> 04:26:36,601
I want to just say I'm here in

5246
04:26:36,601 --> 04:26:38,601
support of the project and I'm not

5247
04:26:38,601 --> 04:26:41,601
here as a paid person to support the

5248
04:26:41,601 --> 04:26:42,601
project, because there have been

5249
04:26:42,601 --> 04:26:45,601
people in the audience that have --

5250
04:26:45,601 --> 04:26:47,601
I heard whispers that were here --

5251
04:26:47,601 --> 04:26:51,601
paid to be here and I'm losing money

5252
04:26:51,601 --> 04:26:53,601
for being here.

5253
04:26:53,601 --> 04:26:57,601
this is a perfect example of a

5254
04:26:57,601 --> 04:26:58,601
granite fill project and you heard it

5255
04:26:58,601 --> 04:27:01,601
over and over and I won't go into and

5256
04:27:01,601 --> 04:27:03,601
not going to give you statistics and

5257
04:27:03,601 --> 04:27:07,601
tell you oh, this is it because xyz,

5258
04:27:07,601 --> 04:27:11,601
but it's a great infill project with

5259
04:27:11,601 --> 04:27:12,601
smart planning that you already know

5260
04:27:12,601 --> 04:27:13,601
about.

5261
04:27:13,601 --> 04:27:14,541
so I would encourage you to consider

5262
04:27:14,541 --> 04:27:18,741
that as one of your basis of

5263
04:27:19,541 --> 04:27:21,541
approving this project.

5264
04:27:21,541 --> 04:27:22,541
this will also improve an eyesore.

5265
04:27:22,541 --> 04:27:25,541
I don't know if you have been by

5266
04:27:25,541 --> 04:27:27,541
there recently, but that whole

5267
04:27:27,541 --> 04:27:28,541
section, the island does not look

5268
04:27:28,541 --> 04:27:30,541
that great and when I drive by, this

5269
04:27:30,541 --> 04:27:33,541
will definitely improve a section of

5270
04:27:33,541 --> 04:27:37,141
sierra college that will make us

5271
04:27:39,541 --> 04:27:41,541
proud as granite bay residents to

5272
04:27:41,541 --> 04:27:43,941
have the improvement there.

5273
04:27:44,541 --> 04:27:47,541
it will also, I believe, support more

5274
04:27:47,541 --> 04:27:49,541
stable property values in the area,

5275
04:27:49,541 --> 04:27:52,541
because a lot of properties in that

5276
04:27:52,541 --> 04:27:56,141
area are -- they are not

5277
04:28:01,541 --> 04:28:02,541
well-maintained and mismatched will

5278
04:28:02,541 --> 04:28:03,541
have a well-balanced approach to

5279
04:28:03,541 --> 04:28:06,541
maintenance and keep the resale value

5280
04:28:06,541 --> 04:28:07,541
at a level that I think this will

5281
04:28:07,541 --> 04:28:09,541
maintain

5282
04:28:09,541 --> 04:28:10,541
property values throughout the whole

5283
04:28:10,541 --> 04:28:12,541
island area.

5284
04:28:15,481 --> 04:28:18,481
the last thing I wanted to say there

5285
04:28:18,481 --> 04:28:20,481
are only four houses in granite bay

5286
04:28:20,481 --> 04:28:25,281
on an acre or more and each is

5287
04:28:26,481 --> 04:28:27,481
over a million-and-a-half dollars for

5288
04:28:27,481 --> 04:28:29,481
sale and there is one that is a

5289
04:28:29,481 --> 04:28:30,481
rundown house that is under a

5290
04:28:30,481 --> 04:28:34,681
million, but the rest are over a

5291
04:28:35,481 --> 04:28:36,481
million-and-a-half dollars and I

5292
04:28:36,481 --> 04:28:38,481
can't afford that and if I wanted to

5293
04:28:38,481 --> 04:28:41,481
move here and they are 1-acre lots I

5294
04:28:41,481 --> 04:28:43,481
couldn't afford a home on these lots.

5295
04:28:43,481 --> 04:28:46,481
so I think it's important for the

5296
04:28:46,481 --> 04:28:49,481
community to bring in other

5297
04:28:49,481 --> 04:28:51,481
professionals who want to live in

5298
04:28:51,481 --> 04:28:54,481
granite bay and attend the schools.

5299
04:28:54,481 --> 04:28:55,481
please support the project.

5300
04:28:55,481 --> 04:28:57,481
thank you.

5301
04:29:01,481 --> 04:29:03,481
>> good afternoon board of

5302
04:29:03,481 --> 04:29:05,481
supervisors I'm suzanne jones a

5303
04:29:05,481 --> 04:29:07,481
granite bay resident of 25 years.

5304
04:29:07,481 --> 04:29:09,481
the reason people move here is

5305
04:29:09,481 --> 04:29:10,481
because granite bay is a premiere

5306
04:29:10,481 --> 04:29:11,481
community.

5307
04:29:11,481 --> 04:29:15,421
I know you have heard a lot about its

5308
04:29:15,421 --> 04:29:16,421
rural atmosphere, but it's mostly

5309
04:29:16,421 --> 04:29:17,421
because it's premiere.

5310
04:29:17,421 --> 04:29:19,421
that is the reason why everyone wants

5311
04:29:19,421 --> 04:29:20,421
to come here.

5312
04:29:20,421 --> 04:29:24,421
it took my husband and I more than 20

5313
04:29:24,421 --> 04:29:26,421
years to get here.

5314
04:29:26,421 --> 04:29:28,421
nobody graduates from high school and

5315
04:29:28,421 --> 04:29:29,421
moves into granite bay.

5316
04:29:29,421 --> 04:29:30,421
and we certainly don't want to make

5317
04:29:30,421 --> 04:29:31,421
at the end of the community that you

5318
04:29:31,421 --> 04:29:35,210
can graduate from high school and

5319
04:29:35,421 --> 04:29:37,421
move into granite bay.

5320
04:29:37,421 --> 04:29:42,221
we are also not a bunch of nimbies

5321
04:29:43,421 --> 04:29:45,421
-- not in my backyard, but to

5322
04:29:45,421 --> 04:29:48,421
preserve the premiere quality of our

5323
04:29:48,421 --> 04:29:49,421
community and hence the granite bay

5324
04:29:49,421 --> 04:29:52,421
community plan and why we spent so

5325
04:29:52,421 --> 04:29:53,421
much time working on it.

5326
04:29:53,421 --> 04:29:55,421
supporters say we should be open to

5327
04:29:55,421 --> 04:29:57,421
change.

5328
04:30:01,421 --> 04:30:02,421
rather than changing our community,

5329
04:30:02,421 --> 04:30:05,421
there is roseville right next door to

5330
04:30:05,421 --> 04:30:06,421
us and roseville has gorgeous

5331
04:30:06,421 --> 04:30:09,421
communities that are high-density and

5332
04:30:09,421 --> 04:30:10,421
school within our school districts.

5333
04:30:10,421 --> 04:30:12,421
you don't have to live in granite bay

5334
04:30:12,421 --> 04:30:16,210
to be in our school districts.

5335
04:30:17,421 --> 04:30:18,421
speaking of schools if every house in

5336
04:30:18,421 --> 04:30:22,210
this development had two kids, that

5337
04:30:22,421 --> 04:30:25,421
would make 112 children that will not

5338
04:30:25,421 --> 04:30:29,621
have an impact on the population of

5339
04:30:33,421 --> 04:30:36,421
our schools or declining enrollments.

5340
04:30:39,421 --> 04:30:42,421
I'm on the placer county board of

5341
04:30:42,421 --> 04:30:44,421
education and I serve on the board

5342
04:30:44,421 --> 04:30:46,421
and the reason we have such a high

5343
04:30:46,421 --> 04:30:47,421
quality education is not because we

5344
04:30:47,421 --> 04:30:49,421
have a lot of students in our schools.

5345
04:30:49,421 --> 04:30:52,421
it's because we have quality

5346
04:30:53,421 --> 04:30:55,821
communities, and excellent teachers.

5347
04:30:58,421 --> 04:31:00,421
speaking of affordable the developer

5348
04:31:00,421 --> 04:31:01,421
previously stated at granite bay mac,

5349
04:31:01,421 --> 04:31:04,421
this was not an affordable community,

5350
04:31:04,421 --> 04:31:06,421
but I heard him say today he did

5351
04:31:06,421 --> 04:31:08,421
refer to it being affordable and

5352
04:31:08,421 --> 04:31:10,421
referred $800,000 homes.

5353
04:31:10,421 --> 04:31:14,210
not quite sure why $700,000 homes why

5354
04:31:15,361 --> 04:31:17,761
you referred to $800,000 to $1

5355
04:31:26,361 --> 04:31:29,361
million and young families aren't

5356
04:31:33,361 --> 04:31:35,361
able to afford these homes.

5357
04:31:35,361 --> 04:31:37,361
I understand the builder is a nice

5358
04:31:37,361 --> 04:31:39,361
guy and has a high quality product,

5359
04:31:39,361 --> 04:31:41,361
but this is a dressing nearly the

5360
04:31:41,361 --> 04:31:42,361
extremely high-density developments

5361
04:31:42,361 --> 04:31:44,361
that they are trying to just shove

5362
04:31:44,361 --> 04:31:46,361
down our throats in granite bay and

5363
04:31:46,361 --> 04:31:48,361
the impact it will have on

5364
04:31:48,361 --> 04:31:50,361
everything, traffic, people, the

5365
04:31:50,361 --> 04:31:52,361
community, the premiere quality.

5366
04:31:52,361 --> 04:31:55,361
now he was responsive to us early on

5367
04:31:55,361 --> 04:31:57,361
and he did reduce the density of his

5368
04:31:57,361 --> 04:32:01,361
project, but at some point in time he

5369
04:32:01,361 --> 04:32:02,361
did become unresponsive and refused

5370
04:32:02,361 --> 04:32:05,361
once he got to his lowest offer.

5371
04:32:05,361 --> 04:32:08,361
it's to say that you have 1500

5372
04:32:08,361 --> 04:32:09,361
signatures in support, but you have

5373
04:32:09,361 --> 04:32:10,361
the residents and not just a bunch of

5374
04:32:10,361 --> 04:32:12,361
secants.

5375
04:32:14,301 --> 04:32:16,301
and the commission, the planning

5376
04:32:16,301 --> 04:32:17,301
commission, when they argued this,

5377
04:32:17,301 --> 04:32:18,301
they said that we need projects like

5378
04:32:18,301 --> 04:32:20,301
this.

5379
04:32:22,301 --> 04:32:24,301
so the past based on five people

5380
04:32:24,301 --> 04:32:26,301
saying we need projects like this as

5381
04:32:26,301 --> 04:32:27,301
opposed to listening to all of us.

5382
04:32:27,301 --> 04:32:29,301
if I hear the board in your

5383
04:32:29,301 --> 04:32:30,301
deliberations say the reason you

5384
04:32:30,301 --> 04:32:33,301
think we should pass this is because

5385
04:32:33,301 --> 04:32:36,301
it's a good idea, or because we need

5386
04:32:36,301 --> 04:32:40,301
projects like this, then I will know

5387
04:32:40,301 --> 04:32:44,301
that all of our voices have fallen on

5388
04:32:44,301 --> 04:32:46,301
totally deaf ears, and this in our

5389
04:32:46,301 --> 04:32:47,301
mind will be substantial evidence

5390
04:32:47,301 --> 04:32:50,301
that you, the board of supervisors no

5391
04:32:50,301 --> 04:32:52,301
longer represent us.

5392
04:32:52,301 --> 04:32:53,301
thank you very much

5393
04:32:53,301 --> 04:32:55,301
[ applause ]

5394
04:33:03,301 --> 04:33:04,301
>> yes, 11-year resident of granite

5395
04:33:04,301 --> 04:33:05,301
bay and I want to commend staff for

5396
04:33:05,301 --> 04:33:07,301
the work that they have done.

5397
04:33:07,301 --> 04:33:10,301
this is sensible planning, guys.

5398
04:33:10,301 --> 04:33:13,301
I get that it's -- this is on

5399
04:33:13,301 --> 04:33:16,901
sierra college boulevard, this is a

5400
04:33:17,241 --> 04:33:19,641
major thoroughfare between 50 and 80.

5401
04:33:21,241 --> 04:33:24,241
this is not stallman and I get that

5402
04:33:24,241 --> 04:33:28,241
people went to be on 2-5-acre lot

5403
04:33:28,241 --> 04:33:30,241
sizes and this is not that.

5404
04:33:30,241 --> 04:33:32,241
this makes perfect sense for this

5405
04:33:32,241 --> 04:33:33,241
particular area.

5406
04:33:33,241 --> 04:33:35,241
I want to say also about the

5407
04:33:35,241 --> 04:33:36,241
developer.

5408
04:33:36,241 --> 04:33:37,241
I know him.

5409
04:33:37,241 --> 04:33:42,241
I am in the industry and think he is

5410
04:33:42,241 --> 04:33:45,841
a fantastic developer as evidenced by

5411
04:33:47,241 --> 04:33:49,241
his project on douglas and barton and

5412
04:33:49,241 --> 04:33:52,841
that is a first-class project and

5413
04:33:54,241 --> 04:33:56,241
expect nothing less an that.

5414
04:33:56,241 --> 04:33:59,241
it's a first-class project we can all

5415
04:33:59,241 --> 04:34:00,241
be supportive of and feel proud about

5416
04:34:00,241 --> 04:34:04,241
in our community here in granite bay

5417
04:34:04,241 --> 04:34:06,241
and I ask that you support the

5418
04:34:06,241 --> 04:34:08,241
project, thank you.

5419
04:34:13,241 --> 04:34:17,441
>> my name is nicole shapel and I

5420
04:34:18,181 --> 04:34:22,381
was a resident -- I'm a landowner

5421
04:34:23,181 --> 04:34:24,181
and lived next to the project for ten

5422
04:34:24,181 --> 04:34:26,181
years.

5423
04:34:26,181 --> 04:34:27,181
I'm fully in support of it and I

5424
04:34:27,181 --> 04:34:29,181
agree with a couple of the last

5425
04:34:29,181 --> 04:34:31,181
people have said, you know this?

5426
04:34:31,181 --> 04:34:34,181
this is sierra college boulevard,

5427
04:34:34,181 --> 04:34:35,181
major thoroughfare and if you want it

5428
04:34:35,181 --> 04:34:37,181
live in the rural area, you move.

5429
04:34:37,181 --> 04:34:41,381
I moved recently a year ago to

5430
04:34:44,181 --> 04:34:47,181
auburn, ten acres where I can shot

5431
04:34:47,181 --> 04:34:49,181
guns and road my horse authentic I

5432
04:34:49,181 --> 04:34:51,181
was one of two people that had any

5433
04:34:51,181 --> 04:34:54,181
life stock and I'm the ones with the

5434
04:34:54,181 --> 04:34:56,181
horse and manure and I don't live

5435
04:34:56,181 --> 04:34:58,181
there any more.

5436
04:34:58,181 --> 04:34:59,181
one person has a cow.

5437
04:34:59,181 --> 04:35:02,181
there are no other people that have

5438
04:35:02,181 --> 04:35:04,181
livestock or those type of animals in

5439
04:35:04,181 --> 04:35:07,181
this area and I understand that they

5440
04:35:07,181 --> 04:35:09,181
will still be able to have that

5441
04:35:09,181 --> 04:35:11,181
possibility, because this is not

5442
04:35:11,181 --> 04:35:14,121
going to change the zoning of any of

5443
04:35:14,121 --> 04:35:15,121
the people outside of this actual

5444
04:35:15,121 --> 04:35:17,121
project.

5445
04:35:17,121 --> 04:35:20,121
I think this project is a great

5446
04:35:20,121 --> 04:35:24,121
infill in my mind, if you look at the

5447
04:35:24,121 --> 04:35:26,121
global zoom out a little bit and the

5448
04:35:26,121 --> 04:35:28,521
area surrounded by houses.

5449
04:35:29,121 --> 04:35:30,121
it's surrounded by major roads and if

5450
04:35:30,121 --> 04:35:33,121
you want to live in the rural area,

5451
04:35:33,121 --> 04:35:35,121
to live on sneaky backroads and not

5452
04:35:35,121 --> 04:35:36,121
major roads that eventually are going

5453
04:35:36,121 --> 04:35:39,121
to be like a freeway, connecting the

5454
04:35:39,121 --> 04:35:40,121
80 and 50 corridor.

5455
04:35:40,121 --> 04:35:42,121
so I'm fully in support of this

5456
04:35:42,121 --> 04:35:43,121
project.

5457
04:35:43,121 --> 04:35:47,121
and I hope that you guys vote it

5458
04:35:47,121 --> 04:35:48,121
through.

5459
04:35:48,121 --> 04:35:50,121
thank you.

5460
04:35:50,121 --> 04:35:53,121
>> good afternoon jeff kess, 23-year

5461
04:36:02,121 --> 04:36:03,121
resident of highland.

5462
04:36:03,121 --> 04:36:06,121
there is no compelling need for 56

5463
04:36:06,121 --> 04:36:09,721
homes on sierra college as proposed

5464
04:36:10,121 --> 04:36:12,121
this infill project on the island is

5465
04:36:12,121 --> 04:36:14,610
cobbling together a number of

5466
04:36:14,610 --> 04:36:15,610
smaller existing lots into one larger

5467
04:36:15,610 --> 04:36:18,610
lot only for the benefit of the

5468
04:36:18,610 --> 04:36:19,610
applicant, without substantial

5469
04:36:19,610 --> 04:36:20,610
benefit to the immediate neighbors or

5470
04:36:20,610 --> 04:36:22,610
the community.

5471
04:36:22,610 --> 04:36:26,610
16 homes is identified in the eir as

5472
04:36:26,610 --> 04:36:28,610
the superior development alternative,

5473
04:36:28,610 --> 04:36:29,610
the right density for this project in

5474
04:36:29,610 --> 04:36:31,610
keeping with the principles of the

5475
04:36:31,610 --> 04:36:33,610
granite bay community plan and in

5476
04:36:33,610 --> 04:36:34,610
hearings prior today we heard

5477
04:36:34,610 --> 04:36:36,610
testimony it's in the feasible to

5478
04:36:36,610 --> 04:36:38,610
bring out the park at granite bay

5479
04:36:38,610 --> 04:36:41,610
with only 16 houses and similar

5480
04:36:41,610 --> 04:36:43,461
nearby subdivisions established lower

5481
04:36:45,610 --> 04:36:46,610
density zoning standing contradiction

5482
04:36:46,610 --> 04:36:49,610
to that assertion and include

5483
04:36:49,610 --> 04:36:52,610
rockwood estates and meadows and

5484
04:36:52,610 --> 04:36:54,461
sierra college and woodbridge

5485
04:36:56,610 --> 04:36:57,610
estates and these subdivision within

5486
04:36:57,610 --> 04:36:59,610
the so-called island were recently

5487
04:36:59,610 --> 04:37:02,610
built on lands zoned the same the

5488
04:37:02,610 --> 04:37:04,610
subject property is currently and

5489
04:37:04,610 --> 04:37:05,610
combined represent 22 homes on

5490
04:37:05,610 --> 04:37:07,610
approximately 27 acres.

5491
04:37:08,610 --> 04:37:10,610
intelligent infill projects meet the

5492
04:37:10,610 --> 04:37:11,610
objectives of the granite bay

5493
04:37:11,610 --> 04:37:14,100
community plan and if those produced

5494
04:37:14,100 --> 04:37:15,100
a viable project within euler

5495
04:37:15,100 --> 04:37:17,100
low-density zoning, there is it no

5496
04:37:17,100 --> 04:37:19,100
reason to believe that the applicant

5497
04:37:19,100 --> 04:37:21,100
cannot have a viable economic project

5498
04:37:21,100 --> 04:37:23,401
with 16 homes without entitlements

5499
04:37:24,100 --> 04:37:25,100
for rezone community plan amendment

5500
04:37:25,100 --> 04:37:27,100
and variance.

5501
04:37:28,100 --> 04:37:29,100
in 2006 court case ceqa was

5502
04:37:29,100 --> 04:37:30,100
interpreted to the effect "the fact

5503
04:37:30,100 --> 04:37:33,601
that an alternative may be more

5504
04:37:34,100 --> 04:37:35,100
expensive or less profitable is not

5505
04:37:35,100 --> 04:37:38,100
sufficient to show that the

5506
04:37:40,100 --> 04:37:41,100
alternative is financially

5507
04:37:41,100 --> 04:37:42,100
infeasible." testimony in previous

5508
04:37:42,100 --> 04:37:43,100
hearings contend that the 56 homes

5509
04:37:43,100 --> 04:37:46,100
are to fill housing demand of

5510
04:37:46,100 --> 04:37:48,100
new jobs coming to placer county and

5511
04:37:48,100 --> 04:37:50,100
significant new employers such as top

5512
04:37:50,100 --> 04:37:53,100
gavel and the university however are

5513
04:37:53,100 --> 04:37:56,100
located in west roseville and not

5514
04:37:56,100 --> 04:37:58,100
granite bay/east roseville and that

5515
04:37:58,100 --> 04:38:00,100
employees will find more affordable

5516
04:38:00,100 --> 04:38:01,100
homing than at then park at granite

5517
04:38:01,100 --> 04:38:03,100
bay.

5518
04:38:04,100 --> 04:38:05,100
other major placer employers do not

5519
04:38:05,100 --> 04:38:07,100
provide support for the assertion

5520
04:38:07,100 --> 04:38:10,100
that the park at granite bay will

5521
04:38:10,100 --> 04:38:11,100
added high-density homes for new

5522
04:38:11,100 --> 04:38:13,100
development and, in fact the

5523
04:38:13,100 --> 04:38:14,941
september 2016 building industry

5524
04:38:14,941 --> 04:38:16,941
associate report shows that will are

5525
04:38:16,941 --> 04:38:20,941
at least 734 new home as valuable in

5526
04:38:20,941 --> 04:38:22,941
affordable high-density subdivisions

5527
04:38:22,941 --> 04:38:25,941
within five miles of sierra college

5528
04:38:25,941 --> 04:38:26,941
douglas boulevard crossroad without

5529
04:38:26,941 --> 04:38:28,941
jamming 56 homes into a rural setting

5530
04:38:28,941 --> 04:38:29,941
where the park at granite bay is

5531
04:38:29,941 --> 04:38:31,941
proposed.

5532
04:38:31,941 --> 04:38:32,941
members of the board, you are likely

5533
04:38:32,941 --> 04:38:35,941
going to hear some very directed and

5534
04:38:35,941 --> 04:38:36,941
con triumphed questioning of planning

5535
04:38:36,941 --> 04:38:37,941
department staff and others to

5536
04:38:37,941 --> 04:38:39,941
justify why this rezone to higher

5537
04:38:39,941 --> 04:38:41,941
density should be approved to the

5538
04:38:41,941 --> 04:38:43,941
benefit of an applicant who doesn't

5539
04:38:43,941 --> 04:38:45,941
even own the land now and property

5540
04:38:45,941 --> 04:38:47,941
rights to the proposed parcels being

5541
04:38:47,941 --> 04:38:49,941
cobbled together for this application.

5542
04:38:49,941 --> 04:38:52,941
instead urban going to be asked to

5543
04:38:52,941 --> 04:38:54,941
transfer on the property rights

5544
04:38:54,941 --> 04:38:55,941
of existing individual owners

5545
04:38:55,941 --> 04:38:57,941
surrounding the subject property and

5546
04:38:57,941 --> 04:38:58,941
forever change the character of the

5547
04:38:58,941 --> 04:38:59,941
properties that they own.

5548
04:38:59,941 --> 04:39:02,941
please make the right and justifiable

5549
04:39:02,941 --> 04:39:04,941
vote to deny the recommendation to

5550
04:39:04,941 --> 04:39:05,941
approve this project as submitted.

5551
04:39:05,941 --> 04:39:07,941
[ applause ]

5552
04:39:14,881 --> 04:39:16,881
>> that is all we have for group 3,

5553
04:39:16,881 --> 04:39:18,881
but we think we have group 4 people

5554
04:39:18,881 --> 04:39:20,881
in the audience or other people with

5555
04:39:20,881 --> 04:39:22,881
cards?

5556
04:39:32,881 --> 04:39:34,881
>> group 4 michael, representing

5557
04:39:37,881 --> 04:39:39,881
placer group sierra club, let's talk

5558
04:39:39,881 --> 04:39:42,881
infill and land use policy, one of

5559
04:39:42,881 --> 04:39:43,881
our primary orientation s to support

5560
04:39:43,881 --> 04:39:45,881
infill development.

5561
04:39:45,881 --> 04:39:47,881
you don't need this project to have

5562
04:39:47,881 --> 04:39:48,881
infill development and this project

5563
04:39:48,881 --> 04:39:50,881
is ready and this land is ready with

5564
04:39:50,881 --> 04:39:51,881
services and everything that you

5565
04:39:51,881 --> 04:39:54,881
need for infill development and

5566
04:39:54,881 --> 04:39:55,881
infill development to develop it

5567
04:39:55,881 --> 04:39:58,881
according to the existing plan.

5568
04:39:59,881 --> 04:40:02,881
of course we're not only concerned

5569
04:40:02,881 --> 04:40:04,881
about infill and keeping things in

5570
04:40:04,881 --> 04:40:06,881
urban areas, we're also concerned

5571
04:40:06,881 --> 04:40:09,881
about greenhouse gas emissions and

5572
04:40:09,881 --> 04:40:12,281
unnecessary addition of greenhouse

5573
04:40:13,881 --> 04:40:14,881
gas from overdevelopment,

5574
04:40:14,881 --> 04:40:16,881
transportation issues.

5575
04:40:17,881 --> 04:40:20,881
everybody is talking about 56 units.

5576
04:40:22,881 --> 04:40:25,881
well, secondary homes are permitted

5577
04:40:25,881 --> 04:40:27,881
on lots of 5,000 square foot.

5578
04:40:27,881 --> 04:40:28,881
square feet.

5579
04:40:28,881 --> 04:40:30,881
so you are really talking about

5580
04:40:30,881 --> 04:40:31,881
potentially twice as many units on

5581
04:40:31,881 --> 04:40:33,881
these properties.

5582
04:40:33,881 --> 04:40:35,881
how did that 5,000 come about?

5583
04:40:35,881 --> 04:40:37,881
you may remember that a few months

5584
04:40:37,881 --> 04:40:40,881
ago it was a 150,000 square foot

5585
04:40:40,881 --> 04:40:43,881
minimum and you acted to change it to

5586
04:40:43,881 --> 04:40:44,881
5,000 square feet.

5587
04:40:44,881 --> 04:40:47,881
this issue came to the sierra club's

5588
04:40:47,881 --> 04:40:48,881
attention when someone complained to

5589
04:40:48,881 --> 04:40:52,881
us that a variance had been issued

5590
04:40:52,881 --> 04:40:54,881
for a secondary home, still when it

5591
04:40:54,881 --> 04:40:56,881
was 10,000 square feet and that is

5592
04:40:56,881 --> 04:40:59,881
how we discussed it at the placer

5593
04:40:59,881 --> 04:41:01,881
group board and got involved.

5594
04:41:01,881 --> 04:41:06,810
we have looked at two recent issues

5595
04:41:06,881 --> 04:41:08,881
approved by the zoning administrator

5596
04:41:08,881 --> 04:41:09,881
on 3-acre parcels and how were they

5597
04:41:09,881 --> 04:41:10,881
built?

5598
04:41:10,881 --> 04:41:12,881
they were locate where had they would

5599
04:41:12,881 --> 04:41:14,821
have the least impact on 3 acres and

5600
04:41:14,821 --> 04:41:17,821
the maximum impact on neighborhood

5601
04:41:17,821 --> 04:41:19,821
character and the neighbors.

5602
04:41:19,821 --> 04:41:20,821
unnecessary, doesn't even meet the

5603
04:41:20,821 --> 04:41:22,821
requirements for a variance.

5604
04:41:22,821 --> 04:41:24,821
so we are quite concerned that here

5605
04:41:24,821 --> 04:41:26,821
you have a situation where people

5606
04:41:26,821 --> 04:41:30,821
will come in for variances even on

5607
04:41:30,821 --> 04:41:31,821
these tiny to 5,000 square foot

5608
04:41:31,821 --> 04:41:34,821
lots and if these are 7,000 square

5609
04:41:34,821 --> 04:41:36,821
foot lots will have a lot of

5610
04:41:36,821 --> 04:41:37,821
potential for that.

5611
04:41:37,821 --> 04:41:40,821
so it is more than that.

5612
04:41:40,821 --> 04:41:42,821
you should stick with the plan you

5613
04:41:42,821 --> 04:41:43,821
have that protects community

5614
04:41:43,821 --> 04:41:45,821
character.

5615
04:41:45,821 --> 04:41:46,821
maintaining community character can

5616
04:41:46,821 --> 04:41:51,210
be done, can be done for moderate,

5617
04:41:51,821 --> 04:41:52,821
low-income and housing units.

5618
04:41:52,821 --> 04:41:54,821
you don't have to have this kind of

5619
04:41:54,821 --> 04:41:56,821
intensity of development.

5620
04:41:57,821 --> 04:41:59,821
thank you.

5621
04:41:59,821 --> 04:42:01,821
>> is there anyone else who would

5622
04:42:01,821 --> 04:42:03,821
like to address the board?

5623
04:42:03,821 --> 04:42:05,821
seeing anyone I will close public

5624
04:42:05,821 --> 04:42:07,821
hearing -- excuse me, our protocol is

5625
04:42:07,821 --> 04:42:10,821
to provide the developer an

5626
04:42:10,821 --> 04:42:11,821
opportunity to redo something if

5627
04:42:11,821 --> 04:42:16,210
they think there was a factual error,

5628
04:42:22,761 --> 04:42:26,361
>> thank you, mr. Chairman, marcus lu

5629
04:42:26,761 --> 04:42:28,761
duca and my client is the owner of

5630
04:42:28,761 --> 04:42:31,761
the parcels that are in question,

5631
04:42:31,761 --> 04:42:34,761
someone just -- a warrant --

5632
04:42:34,761 --> 04:42:36,761
there was a comment about your

5633
04:42:36,761 --> 04:42:37,761
conditions of approval need to make

5634
04:42:37,761 --> 04:42:38,761
sure that the homeowners' association

5635
04:42:38,761 --> 04:42:42,961
just don't vote out of park and

5636
04:42:44,761 --> 04:42:47,761
maintenance of the project and

5637
04:42:48,761 --> 04:42:51,761
condition 89l, the park shall be open

5638
04:42:51,761 --> 04:42:53,761
to the future track dawn to dusk and

5639
04:42:53,761 --> 04:42:54,761
recordation a easement is approved

5640
04:42:54,761 --> 04:42:57,761
the county shall be recorded

5641
04:42:57,761 --> 04:42:59,761
by the developer to ensure public access

5642
04:42:59,761 --> 04:43:03,361
to both vehicle and pedestrian and

5643
04:43:05,761 --> 04:43:07,761
deed restriction -- also applies

5644
04:43:07,761 --> 04:43:08,761
conditions of map and they will then

5645
04:43:08,761 --> 04:43:11,761
be in violation of the tentative map

5646
04:43:11,761 --> 04:43:14,701
subject to penalties under the

5647
04:43:14,701 --> 04:43:17,701
subdivision map act and cr and rs

5648
04:43:17,701 --> 04:43:21,701
have to be approved by mr. Cardon has

5649
04:43:21,701 --> 04:43:23,701
another condition of approval and cc

5650
04:43:23,701 --> 04:43:27,301
& rs are provisions they may require.

5651
04:43:28,701 --> 04:43:30,701
did want to mention just a couple

5652
04:43:30,701 --> 04:43:32,701
other minor items.

5653
04:43:32,701 --> 04:43:34,701
there a comment said, why did we

5654
04:43:34,701 --> 04:43:38,701
look at other projects in the area

5655
04:43:38,701 --> 04:43:41,701
doing this while not approved?

5656
04:43:41,701 --> 04:43:45,301
we did a cumulative impact analysis

5657
04:43:45,701 --> 04:43:48,701
and the idea was to try to make sure

5658
04:43:48,701 --> 04:43:51,701
there was a thorough analyses from a

5659
04:43:51,701 --> 04:43:53,701
cumulative issue as possible, given

5660
04:43:53,701 --> 04:43:56,701
the traffic is a major concern of

5661
04:43:56,701 --> 04:43:59,101
folks in the area.

5662
04:43:59,701 --> 04:44:02,701
finally the only other issue I think

5663
04:44:02,701 --> 04:44:06,701
that I had had relative to -- hold

5664
04:44:06,701 --> 04:44:07,701
on a second here, going through my

5665
04:44:07,701 --> 04:44:09,701
notes.

5666
04:44:14,641 --> 04:44:15,641
a comment about the schools.

5667
04:44:15,641 --> 04:44:17,641
you have heard a lot of testimony

5668
04:44:17,641 --> 04:44:19,641
from people involved in the school

5669
04:44:19,641 --> 04:44:20,641
foundation.

5670
04:44:20,641 --> 04:44:23,641
currently there is a lot of students

5671
04:44:23,641 --> 04:44:25,641
in the school district and granite

5672
04:44:25,641 --> 04:44:28,641
bay high school as part of the high

5673
04:44:28,641 --> 04:44:29,641
school district, transfers from other

5674
04:44:29,641 --> 04:44:30,641
areas.

5675
04:44:30,641 --> 04:44:34,641
when high school no. 6 opens in west

5676
04:44:34,641 --> 04:44:36,641
roseville, literally a quarter of the

5677
04:44:36,641 --> 04:44:37,641
granite bay high school students are

5678
04:44:37,641 --> 04:44:38,641
gone.

5679
04:44:38,641 --> 04:44:40,641
that is how many people are coming

5680
04:44:40,641 --> 04:44:42,641
from the western part of roseville

5681
04:44:42,641 --> 04:44:44,641
into the high school and there is

5682
04:44:44,641 --> 04:44:46,641
also right now as was mentioned to

5683
04:44:46,641 --> 04:44:50,641
you, the fact that there is some

5684
04:44:50,641 --> 04:44:52,641
attendance adjustments in the recent

5685
04:44:52,641 --> 04:44:54,641
past in the school district is

5686
04:44:54,641 --> 04:44:55,641
because they are out of school

5687
04:44:55,641 --> 04:44:57,641
district transfers and they are not

5688
04:44:57,641 --> 04:44:59,641
getting students in the district.

5689
04:44:59,641 --> 04:45:01,641
they have also closed school and

5690
04:45:01,641 --> 04:45:03,641
quite frankly as everyone knows with

5691
04:45:03,641 --> 04:45:04,641
school funds it's not the fees that

5692
04:45:04,641 --> 04:45:07,641
my client pays, but you get money from

5693
04:45:07,641 --> 04:45:09,641
the stats on full-time equivalents

5694
04:45:09,641 --> 04:45:13,581
and the absence is a long-term trend

5695
04:45:13,581 --> 04:45:14,581
that started a decade ago and

5696
04:45:14,581 --> 04:45:16,581
continuing in the school district

5697
04:45:16,581 --> 04:45:17,581
that does affect funding for actual

5698
04:45:17,581 --> 04:45:18,581
operations and the quality of

5699
04:45:18,581 --> 04:45:20,581
teaching in the school district.

5700
04:45:20,581 --> 04:45:23,581
with that, mr. Chairman, I would be

5701
04:45:23,581 --> 04:45:24,581
happy to answer any questions that

5702
04:45:24,581 --> 04:45:25,581
the board might have.

5703
04:45:25,581 --> 04:45:27,581
>> thank you.

5704
04:45:27,581 --> 04:45:28,581
kirk than jim.

5705
04:45:28,581 --> 04:45:31,581
>> I think my questions are of staff

5706
04:45:31,581 --> 04:45:33,581
as opposed to the applicant.

5707
04:45:33,581 --> 04:45:34,581
two questions.

5708
04:45:34,581 --> 04:45:38,781
one was brought up earlier the issue

5709
04:45:39,581 --> 04:45:43,781
of looking at -- "all of the

5710
04:45:44,581 --> 04:45:46,581
proposed projects cumulatively, and

5711
04:45:46,581 --> 04:45:49,581
the cumulative traffic impacts." our

5712
04:45:49,581 --> 04:45:52,581
board just recently adopted an

5713
04:45:54,581 --> 04:45:56,581
updated capital improvement program

5714
04:45:56,581 --> 04:45:58,581
for the granite bay community planned

5715
04:45:58,581 --> 04:46:00,581
area and added another several

5716
04:46:00,581 --> 04:46:02,581
hundred dollars to the traffic impact

5717
04:46:02,581 --> 04:46:04,581
fees paid in granite bay.

5718
04:46:04,581 --> 04:46:08,581
was that update a result of staff

5719
04:46:08,581 --> 04:46:10,581
looking at analyzing the cumulative

5720
04:46:10,581 --> 04:46:13,521
impacts of the projects that are in

5721
04:46:13,521 --> 04:46:15,521
the pipeline right now?

5722
04:46:15,521 --> 04:46:16,521
>> yes, it was.

5723
04:46:16,521 --> 04:46:17,521
>> so --

5724
04:46:17,521 --> 04:46:19,521
>> including the park at granite bay.

5725
04:46:19,521 --> 04:46:20,521
>> okay.

5726
04:46:20,521 --> 04:46:24,721
so the fee that they'll be paying

5727
04:46:25,521 --> 04:46:27,521
assumes the cumulative impact of not

5728
04:46:27,521 --> 04:46:28,521
just this project, but everything

5729
04:46:28,521 --> 04:46:33,321
else that staff isa ware of that is

5730
04:46:33,521 --> 04:46:35,921
being processed as well?

5731
04:46:36,521 --> 04:46:37,521
>> I'm sure correct me if I'm wrong,

5732
04:46:37,521 --> 04:46:38,521
but that is correct.

5733
04:46:38,521 --> 04:46:40,521
>> the only other question -- I

5734
04:46:40,521 --> 04:46:45,321
have a number of comments that I will

5735
04:46:45,521 --> 04:46:46,521
reserve for later.

5736
04:46:46,521 --> 04:46:48,521
the only other question I have is oh,

5737
04:46:48,521 --> 04:46:52,721
it was pointed out rightly so that

5738
04:46:54,521 --> 04:46:58,121
the majority of the smaller parcels

5739
04:46:59,521 --> 04:47:00,521
off of annabelle and eckerman don't

5740
04:47:00,521 --> 04:47:02,521
touch

5741
04:47:03,521 --> 04:47:07,521
this project that the majority of the

5742
04:47:07,521 --> 04:47:08,521
lots touching this project are larger

5743
04:47:08,521 --> 04:47:10,521
in size.

5744
04:47:11,521 --> 04:47:14,461
I'm curious how many of the neighbors

5745
04:47:14,461 --> 04:47:17,461
immediately adjacent are actually in

5746
04:47:18,461 --> 04:47:21,461
opposition to the project filed

5747
04:47:21,461 --> 04:47:22,461
opposition with the county?

5748
04:47:22,461 --> 04:47:26,661
>> I don't know the exact number --

5749
04:47:31,461 --> 04:47:35,661
dr. Bazari is no longer opposing the

5750
04:47:36,461 --> 04:47:38,461
project -- I know mr. Becket

5751
04:47:38,461 --> 04:47:39,461
touches the property.

5752
04:47:39,461 --> 04:47:42,461
he is not in favor.

5753
04:47:42,461 --> 04:47:43,461
I believe there is one other neighbor

5754
04:47:43,461 --> 04:47:45,461
who has sort of being silent through

5755
04:47:45,461 --> 04:47:47,461
the whole thing.

5756
04:47:50,461 --> 04:47:54,661
>> mr. Laduca, do you have a number?

5757
04:47:57,461 --> 04:47:59,461
>> if we could pull up the map of

5758
04:47:59,461 --> 04:48:00,461
the project?

5759
04:48:00,461 --> 04:48:01,461
>> I.t..

5760
04:48:01,461 --> 04:48:04,461
>> there are six parcels that touch

5761
04:48:04,461 --> 04:48:06,461
the project.

5762
04:48:06,461 --> 04:48:10,661
there is as mentioned mr. Overisi and

5763
04:48:12,461 --> 04:48:14,401
mr. Beckett and dr. Bazari and the

5764
04:48:14,401 --> 04:48:17,401
person with what we call the nook

5765
04:48:17,401 --> 04:48:19,401
there surrounded on three sides, mr.

5766
04:48:19,401 --> 04:48:23,601
meyer, mr. Miller is adjacent to the

5767
04:48:25,401 --> 04:48:29,401
south to mr. Beckett and a six

5768
04:48:29,401 --> 04:48:32,401
property eastern at the southeast

5769
04:48:32,401 --> 04:48:35,401
corner adjacent to the college.

5770
04:48:36,401 --> 04:48:39,401
that 6th property owner we have not

5771
04:48:39,401 --> 04:48:43,401
been able to reach and submit the no

5772
04:48:43,401 --> 04:48:46,401
comments and so there are six

5773
04:48:46,401 --> 04:48:50,401
property owners and know that two are

5774
04:48:50,401 --> 04:48:53,401
opposed and dr. Bazari just

5775
04:48:54,401 --> 04:48:55,401
submitted his letter, so there are

5776
04:48:55,401 --> 04:48:57,401
six total.

5777
04:48:57,401 --> 04:48:58,401
>> two of whom --

5778
04:48:58,401 --> 04:48:59,401
>> correct.

5779
04:48:59,401 --> 04:49:00,401
>> thank you very much.

5780
04:49:00,401 --> 04:49:03,401
that is all the questions.

5781
04:49:03,401 --> 04:49:04,401
>> jim.

5782
04:49:04,401 --> 04:49:06,401
>> to get back to the school issue,

5783
04:49:06,401 --> 04:49:09,401
having been in meetings with

5784
04:49:09,401 --> 04:49:10,401
officials from the roseville high

5785
04:49:10,401 --> 04:49:11,401
school district and I know they are

5786
04:49:11,401 --> 04:49:13,341
concerned about the declining

5787
04:49:13,341 --> 04:49:14,341
enrollment at granite bay high school

5788
04:49:14,341 --> 04:49:16,341
and it's going to be even worse when

5789
04:49:16,341 --> 04:49:17,341
the west roseville high school is

5790
04:49:17,341 --> 04:49:18,341
built.

5791
04:49:18,341 --> 04:49:21,341
having worked for the placer county

5792
04:49:21,341 --> 04:49:22,341
office of education, I'm familiar

5793
04:49:22,341 --> 04:49:25,341
with the schools in the eureka school

5794
04:49:25,341 --> 04:49:27,341
district and one that has been there

5795
04:49:27,341 --> 04:49:30,341
for 15 years that was never opened,

5796
04:49:30,341 --> 04:49:32,341
olive ranch.

5797
04:49:32,341 --> 04:49:35,341
the eureka school was remodeled some

5798
04:49:35,341 --> 04:49:37,341
time ago and upgraded, but it's

5799
04:49:37,341 --> 04:49:39,341
closed as well. So I know there is

5800
04:49:39,341 --> 04:49:42,941
much concern within the district that

5801
04:49:43,341 --> 04:49:45,341
declining enrollment is a problem in

5802
04:49:45,341 --> 04:49:48,341
this kind of project and maybe it's

5803
04:49:48,341 --> 04:49:51,341
only 122 kids, but it's a start.

5804
04:49:51,341 --> 04:49:54,341
>> any other questions this time?

5805
04:49:54,341 --> 04:49:56,341
with that then, I'll close the public

5806
04:49:56,341 --> 04:49:57,341
hearing.

5807
04:49:57,341 --> 04:49:59,341
[ gavel ]

5808
04:49:59,341 --> 04:50:01,341
kirk, turn it over to you first.

5809
04:50:01,341 --> 04:50:02,341
>> thank you, mr. Chairman and

5810
04:50:02,341 --> 04:50:04,341
george, if I may have the clicker

5811
04:50:04,341 --> 04:50:06,341
real quick? And while you are

5812
04:50:06,341 --> 04:50:09,341
bringing that up, just a couple --

5813
04:50:09,341 --> 04:50:10,341
before I share with not only my

5814
04:50:10,341 --> 04:50:12,341
colleagues, but some of the folks in

5815
04:50:12,341 --> 04:50:15,341
the community, kind of my thoughts as

5816
04:50:15,341 --> 04:50:18,341
I look at well thoughts on land use

5817
04:50:18,341 --> 04:50:20,341
changes to the 1989 community plan.

5818
04:50:20,341 --> 04:50:24,341
before I get to that however, a

5819
04:50:24,341 --> 04:50:26,341
number of things that were brought up

5820
04:50:26,341 --> 04:50:28,341
that I do want to address.

5821
04:50:28,341 --> 04:50:31,341
somebody made the claim that our

5822
04:50:31,341 --> 04:50:33,341
parks are underutilized in granite

5823
04:50:33,341 --> 04:50:34,341
bay.

5824
04:50:34,341 --> 04:50:37,341
as a father of two very active

5825
04:50:37,341 --> 04:50:38,341
youngsters I can tell you that are

5826
04:50:38,341 --> 04:50:40,341
for seven years in lacrosse, we have

5827
04:50:40,341 --> 04:50:45,141
had to pay to rent light standard so

5828
04:50:46,341 --> 04:50:47,341
that the kids can practice at night,

5829
04:50:47,341 --> 04:50:50,941
because we have no park availability

5830
04:50:51,341 --> 04:50:52,341
during the daytime. So we as a

5831
04:50:52,341 --> 04:50:54,341
league go raise the money, have our

5832
04:50:54,341 --> 04:50:56,341
fundraisers and move lights out to

5833
04:50:56,341 --> 04:50:57,341
cabot school so we can practice at

5834
04:50:57,341 --> 04:50:59,341
night.

5835
04:50:59,341 --> 04:51:02,341
likewise, my daughter's soccer team,

5836
04:51:02,341 --> 04:51:04,341
one of the competitive club teams has

5837
04:51:04,341 --> 04:51:08,341
to go to del oreo to practice at

5838
04:51:08,341 --> 04:51:10,341
night, because we don't have another

5839
04:51:10,341 --> 04:51:11,341
practice space available.

5840
04:51:11,341 --> 04:51:14,281
so this notion that our existing

5841
04:51:14,281 --> 04:51:16,281
parks are underutilized and it's just

5842
04:51:16,281 --> 04:51:20,281
simply flies in the face of reality.

5843
04:51:20,281 --> 04:51:23,881
somebody made the claim that the

5844
04:51:24,281 --> 04:51:26,281
granite bay build-out has somehow

5845
04:51:26,281 --> 04:51:29,281
been accelerated and I will make

5846
04:51:29,281 --> 04:51:30,281
comments regarding the 1989 plan and

5847
04:51:30,281 --> 04:51:34,281
as I know, as my colleagues know,

5848
04:51:34,281 --> 04:51:36,281
even though we adopted an update to

5849
04:51:36,281 --> 04:51:38,281
the plan that focused on policies we

5850
04:51:38,281 --> 04:51:40,281
did nothing to address land use.

5851
04:51:40,281 --> 04:51:43,281
at that time, as my colleagues know,

5852
04:51:43,281 --> 04:51:45,281
and members of the community know, I

5853
04:51:45,281 --> 04:51:47,281
addressed both the mac, and this

5854
04:51:47,281 --> 04:51:49,281
board and said, this is not the right

5855
04:51:49,281 --> 04:51:50,281
way to do this.

5856
04:51:50,281 --> 04:51:52,281
I think we should have a

5857
04:51:52,281 --> 04:51:55,281
comprehensive land use plan update.

5858
04:51:55,281 --> 04:51:58,281
however, if the community wants to

5859
04:51:58,281 --> 04:51:59,281
continue with the land use that was

5860
04:51:59,281 --> 04:52:02,281
put in effect in 1989, please

5861
04:52:03,281 --> 04:52:04,281
understand that what we're going to

5862
04:52:04,281 --> 04:52:06,281
start to see is a number of

5863
04:52:06,281 --> 04:52:07,281
individual requests for general plan

5864
04:52:07,281 --> 04:52:09,281
amendments start to come forward.

5865
04:52:09,281 --> 04:52:12,281
and here we are today.

5866
04:52:12,281 --> 04:52:15,221
so the claim was that build-out had

5867
04:52:15,221 --> 04:52:18,221
somehow been accelerated in granite

5868
04:52:18,221 --> 04:52:20,221
bay and looking at the 1989 plan and

5869
04:52:20,221 --> 04:52:23,221
looking at the community development

5870
04:52:23,221 --> 04:52:25,221
specifically the housing l.

5871
04:52:25,221 --> 04:52:29,221
the housing element of the '89 plan

5872
04:52:29,221 --> 04:52:30,221
assumes 3.6% annual growth rate

5873
04:52:30,221 --> 04:52:32,221
within granite bay.

5874
04:52:33,221 --> 04:52:36,821
since 2000 we have grown less than

5875
04:52:38,221 --> 04:52:43,210
half of what was assumed in this plan.

5876
04:52:43,221 --> 04:52:45,221
so the accelerated build-out simply

5877
04:52:45,221 --> 04:52:46,221
hasn't been the case.

5878
04:52:46,221 --> 04:52:47,221
a couple other things that I would

5879
04:52:47,221 --> 04:52:50,821
just like to dispense with: yes,

5880
04:52:52,221 --> 04:52:54,221
mr. Tatter sal and I both have

5881
04:52:54,221 --> 04:52:57,821
business offices on the corner of

5882
04:52:58,221 --> 04:53:00,221
eureka and professional drive, along

5883
04:53:00,221 --> 04:53:03,821
with a dentist and optometrist and

5884
04:53:06,221 --> 04:53:09,221
owners and 36 other businesses that

5885
04:53:09,221 --> 04:53:11,221
are located there. So occasionally I

5886
04:53:11,221 --> 04:53:13,161
see john in the parking lot and wave

5887
04:53:13,161 --> 04:53:15,161
to him and ask him how is the knee

5888
04:53:15,161 --> 04:53:16,161
doing, john?

5889
04:53:16,161 --> 04:53:17,161
so yes, we do share a parking lot

5890
04:53:17,161 --> 04:53:18,161
together.

5891
04:53:18,161 --> 04:53:20,161
the other thing that was raised here,

5892
04:53:20,161 --> 04:53:24,161
as well as was raised at the mac

5893
04:53:24,161 --> 04:53:26,161
recently is this assertion that

5894
04:53:26,161 --> 04:53:29,161
perhaps board members aren't invested

5895
04:53:29,161 --> 04:53:32,161
in the community, because nobody on

5896
04:53:32,161 --> 04:53:34,161
this board currently owns a home in

5897
04:53:34,161 --> 04:53:35,161
granite bay.

5898
04:53:35,161 --> 04:53:37,161
that is correct.

5899
04:53:37,161 --> 04:53:40,161
as somebody who over the last 23

5900
04:53:40,161 --> 04:53:43,161
years has owned five different pieces

5901
04:53:43,161 --> 04:53:46,161
of property in granite bay and two of

5902
04:53:46,161 --> 04:53:48,161
them concurrently, I paid an awful

5903
04:53:48,161 --> 04:53:49,161
lot of property tax.

5904
04:53:49,161 --> 04:53:51,161
last year I did sell my house.

5905
04:53:51,161 --> 04:53:54,161
I am renting in granite bay right now.

5906
04:53:54,161 --> 04:53:57,161
did sell my house last year, but to

5907
04:53:57,161 --> 04:54:01,161
say that somehow by not being a

5908
04:54:01,161 --> 04:54:03,161
current homeowner in granite bay I'm

5909
04:54:03,161 --> 04:54:06,161
not invested in my community flies in

5910
04:54:06,161 --> 04:54:09,161
the face of my 46 years' as a

5911
04:54:09,161 --> 04:54:12,161
community resident, a volunteer for

5912
04:54:12,161 --> 04:54:13,101
sports programs throughout.

5913
04:54:13,101 --> 04:54:15,101
so I just wanted to address that and

5914
04:54:15,101 --> 04:54:17,501
leave it at that.

5915
04:54:18,101 --> 04:54:20,101
now just to explain kind of my

5916
04:54:20,101 --> 04:54:23,701
thinking when it comes to these

5917
04:54:24,101 --> 04:54:25,101
projects, because I get asked the

5918
04:54:25,101 --> 04:54:27,101
question

5919
04:54:28,101 --> 04:54:30,101
, why do you even consider -- why

5920
04:54:30,101 --> 04:54:33,101
do you even consider any changes to

5921
04:54:33,101 --> 04:54:36,101
the granite bay community plan?

5922
04:54:36,101 --> 04:54:39,101
and so I think in order to start

5923
04:54:39,101 --> 04:54:42,701
addressing that, we have to, again,

5924
04:54:43,101 --> 04:54:46,101
in the context of the board not

5925
04:54:46,101 --> 04:54:49,101
having done a land use update there

5926
04:54:49,101 --> 04:54:52,101
2012, I think we need to go no

5927
04:54:52,101 --> 04:54:53,101
further than granite bay community

5928
04:54:53,101 --> 04:54:55,101
plan itself.

5929
04:54:55,101 --> 04:54:57,101
the granite bay community plan

5930
04:54:57,101 --> 04:55:00,101
itself, it page 1, paragraph 1 says

5931
04:55:00,101 --> 04:55:03,101
that the plan adopted in 1989 is the

5932
04:55:03,101 --> 04:55:05,101
official statement of placer county,

5933
04:55:05,101 --> 04:55:06,101
standards, plans proposed that will

5934
04:55:06,101 --> 04:55:08,101
be the guide and develop to the area

5935
04:55:08,101 --> 04:55:12,101
to at least the year 2000. So the

5936
04:55:12,101 --> 04:55:15,410
granite bay community plan itself

5937
04:55:15,410 --> 04:55:17,410
speaks to essentially self-limiting

5938
04:55:17,410 --> 04:55:19,410
fashion to say this document should

5939
04:55:19,410 --> 04:55:21,410
be the guiding document the governing

5940
04:55:21,410 --> 04:55:24,410
document until about the year 2000.

5941
04:55:25,410 --> 04:55:28,410
that is why nine years after that, or

5942
04:55:28,410 --> 04:55:32,410
20 years at the age of the plan, 20

5943
04:55:32,410 --> 04:55:34,410
years, I initiated a community plan

5944
04:55:34,410 --> 04:55:35,410
update process.

5945
04:55:35,410 --> 04:55:37,410
that is why.

5946
04:55:37,410 --> 04:55:38,410
so we could comprehensively take a

5947
04:55:38,410 --> 04:55:40,410
look at that.

5948
04:55:41,410 --> 04:55:43,410
so the first threshold is I come at

5949
04:55:43,410 --> 04:55:46,641
it from this perspective: what does

5950
04:55:47,410 --> 04:55:49,410
the plan itself say when evaluating

5951
04:55:49,410 --> 04:55:51,410
potential changes?

5952
04:55:51,410 --> 04:55:53,410
well, the plan itself very clearly

5953
04:55:53,410 --> 04:55:54,410
addresses that.

5954
04:55:54,410 --> 04:55:58,410
the second thing that I look at when

5955
04:55:58,410 --> 04:56:01,410
evaluating any potential change is

5956
04:56:01,410 --> 04:56:02,410
consistency with the existing built

5957
04:56:02,410 --> 04:56:04,410
environment.

5958
04:56:04,410 --> 04:56:05,410
we have discussed this.

5959
04:56:05,410 --> 04:56:07,410
what has happened to the east and

5960
04:56:07,410 --> 04:56:10,410
north in the city of roseville with

5961
04:56:10,410 --> 04:56:13,641
lots smaller than what is being

5962
04:56:14,981 --> 04:56:15,981
proposed - excuse me, to the west

5963
04:56:15,981 --> 04:56:17,981
and north and the east in roseville

5964
04:56:17,981 --> 04:56:19,981
with lots the same size or smaller.

5965
04:56:19,981 --> 04:56:21,981
also more importantly for me, was

5966
04:56:21,981 --> 04:56:25,581
going through the exercise of the

5967
04:56:25,981 --> 04:56:29,581
island area and realizing that 70 of

5968
04:56:29,981 --> 04:56:33,581
the 120 plus lots out there are

5969
04:56:33,981 --> 04:56:36,381
existing non-conforming use lots

5970
04:56:37,981 --> 04:56:39,981
whether the land use for this area

5971
04:56:39,981 --> 04:56:41,981
was a higher intensity.

5972
04:56:41,981 --> 04:56:43,981
so just for the life of me, don't

5973
04:56:43,981 --> 04:56:46,981
understand why the board of

5974
04:56:47,981 --> 04:56:51,581
supervisors in '89 allowed for a

5975
04:56:51,981 --> 04:56:52,981
zoning that automatically created

5976
04:56:52,981 --> 04:56:53,981
half of the lot as existing

5977
04:56:53,981 --> 04:56:55,981
non-conforming use.

5978
04:56:56,981 --> 04:56:57,981
it just didn't kind of make

5979
04:56:57,981 --> 04:56:59,981
sense.

5980
04:56:59,981 --> 04:57:02,981
so in looking at this proposal in the

5981
04:57:02,981 --> 04:57:04,981
immediate proximity I think is

5982
04:57:04,981 --> 04:57:06,981
obviously a key-gating factor.

5983
04:57:06,981 --> 04:57:08,981
no. 1 what does the plan say? The

5984
04:57:08,981 --> 04:57:10,981
plan says we're about 16 years out of

5985
04:57:10,981 --> 04:57:11,981
date.

5986
04:57:11,981 --> 04:57:13,921
no. It, how does it look consistent

5987
04:57:13,921 --> 04:57:15,921
with what is out there right now in

5988
04:57:15,921 --> 04:57:17,921
the built environment?

5989
04:57:17,921 --> 04:57:19,921
no. 3, perspective.

5990
04:57:20,921 --> 04:57:23,921
perspective of somebody who has been

5991
04:57:23,921 --> 04:57:26,921
in the community and I'm not going

5992
04:57:26,921 --> 04:57:30,521
say granite bay because it wasn't

5993
04:57:30,921 --> 04:57:32,921
granite bay, but been in the

5994
04:57:32,921 --> 04:57:33,921
community for 46 years.

5995
04:57:33,921 --> 04:57:35,921
when we moved here in 1970 there

5996
04:57:35,921 --> 04:57:38,921
wasn't granite bay and loo there was

5997
04:57:38,921 --> 04:57:39,921
loomis and roseville to essentially

5998
04:57:39,921 --> 04:57:42,921
the lake and no such thing as

5999
04:57:42,921 --> 04:57:43,921
granite bay.

6000
04:57:43,921 --> 04:57:45,921
so we created the identify of granite

6001
04:57:45,921 --> 04:57:46,921
bay over the years.

6002
04:57:46,921 --> 04:57:49,921
how did we create the identify of

6003
04:57:49,921 --> 04:57:52,921
granite bay over the years? Looking

6004
04:57:52,921 --> 04:57:55,921
at this map I have highlighted the

6005
04:57:55,921 --> 04:57:57,921
park project in the island area.

6006
04:57:57,921 --> 04:58:01,921
and what has happened in the area of

6007
04:58:01,921 --> 04:58:03,921
granite bay over the years?

6008
04:58:03,921 --> 04:58:07,921
well, we'll begin to the south. It

6009
04:58:07,921 --> 04:58:10,921
was referenced the woodbridge ranch

6010
04:58:11,921 --> 04:58:13,861
subdivision was previously zoned

6011
04:58:13,861 --> 04:58:16,861
20-acre farm. It built out at lot

6012
04:58:16,861 --> 04:58:18,861
sizes a little less than 1 unit per

6013
04:58:18,861 --> 04:58:20,861
acre.

6014
04:58:22,861 --> 04:58:25,861
next to woodbridge ranch is the

6015
04:58:25,861 --> 04:58:28,861
castle creek subdivision and castle

6016
04:58:30,861 --> 04:58:31,861
creek subdivision was zoned and --

6017
04:58:31,861 --> 04:58:34,861
many of the lots are 20,000 square

6018
04:58:34,861 --> 04:58:35,861
feet or approximately 20,000 square

6019
04:58:35,861 --> 04:58:37,861
feet.

6020
04:58:37,861 --> 04:58:38,861
we have already discussed the

6021
04:58:38,861 --> 04:58:41,861
annexation in the southeast community

6022
04:58:41,861 --> 04:58:44,861
plan area for roseville of the area

6023
04:58:44,861 --> 04:58:46,861
that is currently hillsboro, ashley

6024
04:58:46,861 --> 04:58:49,261
woods and east ridge.

6025
04:58:49,861 --> 04:58:51,861
this area was farm 20 acres before

6026
04:58:51,861 --> 04:58:53,861
getting annexed into the city.

6027
04:58:53,861 --> 04:58:55,861
when it got annexed into the city, it

6028
04:58:55,861 --> 04:58:59,861
was absorbed in the city with a land

6029
04:58:59,861 --> 04:59:02,861
use intensity of 2.1 acres per unit.

6030
04:59:02,861 --> 04:59:05,861
when it built out, it built out as

6031
04:59:05,861 --> 04:59:09,461
dense as 4-5 units per acre.

6032
04:59:09,861 --> 04:59:12,801
so almost a 100-fold increase in

6033
04:59:12,801 --> 04:59:14,801
intensity in that area from what it

6034
04:59:14,801 --> 04:59:17,201
had previously been zoned.

6035
04:59:17,801 --> 04:59:18,801
tree lake village.

6036
04:59:18,801 --> 04:59:22,401
tree lake village was farm 20 acres

6037
04:59:23,801 --> 04:59:25,801
before being general plan amendment

6038
04:59:25,801 --> 04:59:26,801
rezoned, development agreement and

6039
04:59:26,801 --> 04:59:27,801
very first development agreement in

6040
04:59:27,801 --> 04:59:31,401
the history of placer county resulted

6041
04:59:32,801 --> 04:59:34,801
in 2-and-a-half lots per acre going

6042
04:59:34,801 --> 04:59:36,801
into tree lake village.

6043
04:59:36,801 --> 04:59:38,801
folsom lake estates.

6044
04:59:38,801 --> 04:59:41,801
folsom lake estates was 2.3 acre,

6045
04:59:42,801 --> 04:59:46,801
rezoned down to lots as small as 3/4

6046
04:59:46,801 --> 04:59:48,801
of an acre.

6047
04:59:59,801 --> 05:00:04,524
los lagos and -- and I want to say 3

6048
05:00:04,524 --> 05:00:06,524
to the acre.

6049
05:00:15,800 --> 05:00:20,600
we move on down to quail oaks, which

6050
05:00:20,801 --> 05:00:23,801
actually built out with the intensity

6051
05:00:23,801 --> 05:00:24,801
it had been assigned.

6052
05:00:24,801 --> 05:00:28,401
however, in order to build the

6053
05:00:28,801 --> 05:00:29,801
subdivision required significant

6054
05:00:29,801 --> 05:00:31,801
variances from setbacks and

6055
05:00:31,801 --> 05:00:32,801
significant variances to road sizes

6056
05:00:32,801 --> 05:00:36,801
and cut down a fairly significant oak

6057
05:00:36,801 --> 05:00:39,801
woodland and undergrounded a stream.

6058
05:00:39,801 --> 05:00:43,801
so quail oaks is a project that

6059
05:00:43,801 --> 05:00:45,801
couldn't be built today and move on

6060
05:00:45,801 --> 05:00:49,401
to douglas ranch, built out at 1/2

6061
05:00:55,801 --> 05:00:59,801
acre-ish lot and the quarry pond area

6062
05:00:59,801 --> 05:01:00,801
was medium-density residential before

6063
05:01:00,801 --> 05:01:03,801
it was rezoned to commercial.

6064
05:01:05,801 --> 05:01:08,801
the stratford downs subdivision once

6065
05:01:09,801 --> 05:01:11,801
again built consistent with zoning

6066
05:01:11,801 --> 05:01:13,801
but only because of significant

6067
05:01:13,801 --> 05:01:14,741
variances and again, undergrounded a

6068
05:01:14,741 --> 05:01:16,741
stream.

6069
05:01:16,741 --> 05:01:19,741
the commercial area that was the

6070
05:01:19,741 --> 05:01:20,741
jumbo market when they built -- it's

6071
05:01:20,741 --> 05:01:22,741
now ace.

6072
05:01:22,741 --> 05:01:25,741
when they built jumbo to rezone from

6073
05:01:25,741 --> 05:01:27,741
residential immediate up

6074
05:01:32,741 --> 05:01:34,741
medium density to commercial and

6075
05:01:34,741 --> 05:01:36,741
hidden lakes subdivision one of my

6076
05:01:36,741 --> 05:01:39,741
favorites, because it too was built

6077
05:01:39,741 --> 05:01:43,941
consistent with the zoning at the time

6078
05:01:45,741 --> 05:01:46,741
with interesting variances because

6079
05:01:46,741 --> 05:01:48,741
the developer of the project was the

6080
05:01:48,741 --> 05:01:50,741
first one to come to the county and

6081
05:01:50,741 --> 05:01:52,741
say we know what our road standards

6082
05:01:52,741 --> 05:01:53,741
are.

6083
05:01:53,741 --> 05:01:55,741
if we build to your road standards

6084
05:01:55,741 --> 05:02:01,141
we'll have to remove a heck of a lot

6085
05:02:01,741 --> 05:02:02,741
of trees bush they think the trees

6086
05:02:02,741 --> 05:02:03,741
are valuable and would like to keep

6087
05:02:03,741 --> 05:02:04,741
them for residents and even though we

6088
05:02:04,741 --> 05:02:07,741
call it hidden lakes estate there is

6089
05:02:07,741 --> 05:02:09,741
no water on the property the

6090
05:02:09,741 --> 05:02:13,741
developer is saying to the county at

6091
05:02:13,741 --> 05:02:15,681
the time and unlike what most

6092
05:02:15,681 --> 05:02:16,681
developers do today to go to the army

6093
05:02:16,681 --> 05:02:20,881
corps of engineering for a permit to

6094
05:02:21,681 --> 05:02:23,681
take away water, we have to go to the

6095
05:02:23,681 --> 05:02:24,681
army corps of engineering to add

6096
05:02:24,681 --> 05:02:26,681
water.

6097
05:02:26,681 --> 05:02:27,681
so hidden lakes estates this is the

6098
05:02:27,681 --> 05:02:29,681
first lake and, in fact it's looked

6099
05:02:29,681 --> 05:02:31,681
to by folks in the community as such

6100
05:02:31,681 --> 05:02:34,681
a wonderful example of such the

6101
05:02:34,681 --> 05:02:36,681
development in granite bay should

6102
05:02:36,681 --> 05:02:38,681
happen that a group calling itself

6103
05:02:38,681 --> 05:02:40,681
defend granite bay has adopted that

6104
05:02:40,681 --> 05:02:41,681
very lake.

6105
05:02:41,681 --> 05:02:43,681
on the homepage of their website.

6106
05:02:43,681 --> 05:02:45,681
this group is dedicated to preserving

6107
05:02:45,681 --> 05:02:48,681
and protecting the unique rural

6108
05:02:48,681 --> 05:02:49,681
lifestyle of granite bay.

6109
05:02:49,681 --> 05:02:53,881
the developer of this project was my

6110
05:02:54,681 --> 05:02:56,681
father.

6111
05:02:57,681 --> 05:03:01,681
my dad built hidden lakes estates and

6112
05:03:01,681 --> 05:03:03,681
my dad discovered the ground of what

6113
05:03:03,681 --> 05:03:06,681
is now hidden lake estates when

6114
05:03:06,681 --> 05:03:11,481
my brother and I road go carts on

6115
05:03:11,681 --> 05:03:14,621
this property and I'm glad my dad did

6116
05:03:14,621 --> 05:03:15,621
such a fine job developing the

6117
05:03:15,621 --> 05:03:17,621
project that the folks who now think

6118
05:03:17,621 --> 05:03:19,621
they need to preserve and protect

6119
05:03:19,621 --> 05:03:22,621
granite bay from me ares you using my

6120
05:03:22,621 --> 05:03:25,621
if father's subdivision as the

6121
05:03:25,621 --> 05:03:28,621
marquee subdivision that we need

6122
05:03:28,621 --> 05:03:29,621
to preserve and defend.

6123
05:03:29,621 --> 05:03:31,621
this is just what I was able to do

6124
05:03:31,621 --> 05:03:33,621
off the top of my head without digging

6125
05:03:33,621 --> 05:03:34,621
in too deeply.

6126
05:03:34,621 --> 05:03:37,621
we want to preserve and protect

6127
05:03:37,621 --> 05:03:39,621
granite bay, but which of the these

6128
05:03:39,621 --> 05:03:41,621
projects would you have go away?

6129
05:03:41,621 --> 05:03:45,221
which of these changes to previous

6130
05:03:45,621 --> 05:03:46,621
zoning, land use intensity do you

6131
05:03:46,621 --> 05:03:48,621
think is bad?

6132
05:03:51,621 --> 05:03:53,621
so which we talk about entertaining

6133
05:03:53,621 --> 05:03:55,621
any changes, that is kind of

6134
05:03:55,621 --> 05:03:57,621
perspective that I look at this from,

6135
05:03:57,621 --> 05:04:00,621
as somebody who has been here now 46

6136
05:04:00,621 --> 05:04:03,621
years, used to hunt the quail oaks

6137
05:04:03,621 --> 05:04:07,621
area, used to ride dirt bikes at

6138
05:04:07,621 --> 05:04:11,821
tree village property and I look at

6139
05:04:12,621 --> 05:04:15,561
this perspective, it's I an

6140
05:04:15,561 --> 05:04:17,561
amalgamation of changes and we have

6141
05:04:17,561 --> 05:04:20,561
an opportunity, I believe with this

6142
05:04:20,561 --> 05:04:24,561
project to continue to add to what is

6143
05:04:24,561 --> 05:04:26,561
a very high-quality of development in

6144
05:04:26,561 --> 05:04:28,561
our area.

6145
05:04:28,561 --> 05:04:30,561
now people are worried about this

6146
05:04:30,561 --> 05:04:31,561
setting a precedent.

6147
05:04:31,561 --> 05:04:34,561
well, I think we have already

6148
05:04:34,561 --> 05:04:36,561
addressed the fact that granite bay

6149
05:04:36,561 --> 05:04:41,361
is built on change butch and I have

6150
05:04:41,561 --> 05:04:43,561
heard the number 16, there are 16

6151
05:04:43,561 --> 05:04:45,561
projects out there and I can name six

6152
05:04:45,561 --> 05:04:46,561
projects, not 16.

6153
05:04:46,561 --> 05:04:48,961
; that are being proposed.

6154
05:04:51,561 --> 05:04:52,561
when you take into consideration the

6155
05:04:52,561 --> 05:04:54,961
fact there are approximately 8600

6156
05:04:57,561 --> 05:05:01,561
parcels in granite bay, and I know of

6157
05:05:01,561 --> 05:05:03,561
six that want changes, we're not

6158
05:05:03,561 --> 05:05:05,561
destroying anything.

6159
05:05:05,561 --> 05:05:07,561
are we changing things? Yes.

6160
05:05:07,561 --> 05:05:09,561
we're changing things.

6161
05:05:09,561 --> 05:05:14,501
but the net sum of this as I look at

6162
05:05:14,501 --> 05:05:17,501
it, I say granite bay has grown.

6163
05:05:17,501 --> 05:05:19,501
granite bay has essentially almost

6164
05:05:19,501 --> 05:05:20,501
built-out.

6165
05:05:20,501 --> 05:05:24,701
so why over the last 30 years, since

6166
05:05:25,501 --> 05:05:28,501
we adopted that plan with that land

6167
05:05:28,501 --> 05:05:31,501
use element associated with it, 27

6168
05:05:31,501 --> 05:05:32,501
years, why didn't these properties

6169
05:05:32,501 --> 05:05:34,501
build?

6170
05:05:34,501 --> 05:05:36,501
why didn't this project already

6171
05:05:36,501 --> 05:05:38,501
build-out and think that wes a board

6172
05:05:38,501 --> 05:05:40,501
have to say that we have had some

6173
05:05:40,501 --> 05:05:42,501
pretty good housing cycles,

6174
05:05:42,501 --> 05:05:45,501
particularly there granite bay, maybe

6175
05:05:45,501 --> 05:05:47,501
the market is telling us that the

6176
05:05:47,501 --> 05:05:48,501
people who assigned that zoning at

6177
05:05:48,501 --> 05:05:52,701
that particular point in time in '

6178
05:05:55,501 --> 05:05:56,501
86-87, having this conversation

6179
05:05:56,501 --> 05:05:57,501
didn't get that one right.

6180
05:05:57,501 --> 05:05:59,501
did a good job with an awful lot of

6181
05:05:59,501 --> 05:06:02,501
it, but you got a few of them that

6182
05:06:02,501 --> 05:06:04,501
maybe they just didn't get right so

6183
05:06:04,501 --> 05:06:06,501
to my colleagues, to folks in the

6184
05:06:06,501 --> 05:06:10,101
community, I hope that helps you

6185
05:06:10,501 --> 05:06:14,101
understand my perspective as I look

6186
05:06:14,441 --> 05:06:16,441
at entertaining these you kind of

6187
05:06:16,441 --> 05:06:19,441
changes and I do support this request

6188
05:06:19,441 --> 05:06:22,441
as a reasonable request for change.

6189
05:06:22,441 --> 05:06:23,441
>> other comments, questions?

6190
05:06:23,441 --> 05:06:25,441
>> if there are no other comments,

6191
05:06:25,441 --> 05:06:30,241
mr. Chairman I will make a motion and

6192
05:06:30,441 --> 05:06:32,441
I'm assuming counsel wants us to read

6193
05:06:32,441 --> 05:06:33,441
the various items contained in our

6194
05:06:33,441 --> 05:06:34,441
staff report?

6195
05:06:34,441 --> 05:06:36,441
>> yes.

6196
05:06:36,441 --> 05:06:38,441
>> into five separate motions.

6197
05:06:38,441 --> 05:06:40,441
>> on pages 7 and 8.

6198
05:06:41,441 --> 05:06:42,441
>> yes, 7, 8 and 9 of the staff

6199
05:06:42,441 --> 05:06:43,441
report.

6200
05:06:43,441 --> 05:06:45,441
>> mr. Chair, before we get to the

6201
05:06:45,441 --> 05:06:47,841
motion, if you would?

6202
05:06:49,441 --> 05:06:53,641
I have to say that supervisor uhler

6203
05:06:55,441 --> 05:06:58,441
makes compelling visual argument, and

6204
05:06:58,441 --> 05:07:02,410
while these have certainly not worked

6205
05:07:02,441 --> 05:07:06,410
for affordable homes at that starter

6206
05:07:06,441 --> 05:07:08,441
point, I recognize that they are

6207
05:07:08,441 --> 05:07:10,441
proposed to be less expensive than

6208
05:07:10,441 --> 05:07:13,441
what is currently in granite bay.

6209
05:07:13,441 --> 05:07:15,381
I will, however, and I don't think

6210
05:07:15,381 --> 05:07:18,381
this will come as a surprise to

6211
05:07:18,381 --> 05:07:20,381
anyone on the board, I don't vote for

6212
05:07:20,381 --> 05:07:21,381
communities with gates.

6213
05:07:21,381 --> 05:07:24,381
I don't believe in gated communities.

6214
05:07:24,381 --> 05:07:27,381
and they don't add safety and, in

6215
05:07:27,381 --> 05:07:28,381
fact a lot of crime statistics show

6216
05:07:28,381 --> 05:07:31,381
gated communities have higher level of

6217
05:07:31,381 --> 05:07:32,381
domestic violence and spousal abuse

6218
05:07:32,381 --> 05:07:34,381
and something about that gate.

6219
05:07:34,381 --> 05:07:36,381
so I will be voting against this, and

6220
05:07:36,381 --> 05:07:39,381
in the future, I would suggest any

6221
05:07:39,381 --> 05:07:41,381
developer who would like my vote come

6222
05:07:41,381 --> 05:07:43,381
forward without a gate.

6223
05:07:43,381 --> 05:07:45,381
[ applause ]

6224
05:07:46,381 --> 05:07:48,381
>> all right.

6225
05:07:49,381 --> 05:07:52,381
so asking of counsel, I have item --

6226
05:07:52,381 --> 05:07:55,981
I have five separate, distinct items

6227
05:07:57,381 --> 05:08:01,581
in our staff report page 1737 of the

6228
05:08:04,381 --> 05:08:06,381
staff report are those the five you

6229
05:08:06,381 --> 05:08:08,381
need in five separate motions?

6230
05:08:08,381 --> 05:08:11,381
>> yes and including the findings

6231
05:08:11,381 --> 05:08:13,381
set out --

6232
05:08:13,381 --> 05:08:14,321
>> we referenced the findings in the

6233
05:08:14,321 --> 05:08:15,321
motion, I'm sure.

6234
05:08:15,321 --> 05:08:16,321
>> understood.

6235
05:08:16,321 --> 05:08:18,321
>> if not, then I will go ahead and

6236
05:08:18,321 --> 05:08:19,321
incorporate and begin with no. 1 and

6237
05:08:19,321 --> 05:08:22,321
that is that I move that we certify

6238
05:08:22,321 --> 05:08:25,321
the park of granite bay final

6239
05:08:25,321 --> 05:08:27,321
environmental impact report pursuant

6240
05:08:27,321 --> 05:08:29,321
to the california environment quality

6241
05:08:29,321 --> 05:08:31,321
act and mitigation and monitoring

6242
05:08:31,321 --> 05:08:33,321
program based on the findings.

6243
05:08:33,321 --> 05:08:36,321
>> yes, the findings attached in

6244
05:08:36,321 --> 05:08:38,321
attachment e and mitigation

6245
05:08:38,321 --> 05:08:39,321
monitoring program report is

6246
05:08:39,321 --> 05:08:40,321
attachment d.

6247
05:08:40,321 --> 05:08:42,321
>> thank you.

6248
05:08:42,321 --> 05:08:44,721
>> is there a second?

6249
05:08:45,321 --> 05:08:46,321
>> motion and second.

6250
05:08:46,321 --> 05:08:48,321
I think there is a request to have a

6251
05:08:48,321 --> 05:08:49,321
comment, but the public hearing is

6252
05:08:49,321 --> 05:08:50,321
closed.

6253
05:08:50,321 --> 05:08:52,321
so we're not going to be taking any

6254
05:08:52,321 --> 05:08:55,321
more public comment at this time. So

6255
05:08:55,321 --> 05:08:56,321
with that, all those in favor of

6256
05:08:56,321 --> 05:08:57,321
motion say aye?

6257
05:08:57,321 --> 05:08:58,321
>> aye.

6258
05:08:58,321 --> 05:08:59,321
>> opposed?

6259
05:08:59,321 --> 05:09:00,321
>> no.

6260
05:09:00,321 --> 05:09:04,321
>> mr. Chair, I move that we adopt a

6261
05:09:04,321 --> 05:09:07,321
resolution approve -- it to approve

6262
05:09:07,321 --> 05:09:08,321
amending the granite bay community

6263
05:09:08,321 --> 05:09:10,721
plan from rural low-density

6264
05:09:11,321 --> 05:09:13,321
residential to medium density

6265
05:09:13,321 --> 05:09:15,261
residential consistent with the land

6266
05:09:15,261 --> 05:09:18,261
use designation in the community plan.

6267
05:09:18,261 --> 05:09:21,261
>> move motion and second, all those

6268
05:09:21,261 --> 05:09:22,261
in favor say aye?

6269
05:09:22,261 --> 05:09:23,261
>> aye.

6270
05:09:23,261 --> 05:09:24,261
>> opposed?

6271
05:09:24,261 --> 05:09:25,261
>> no, motion carry

6272
05:09:25,261 --> 05:09:28,261
mr. Chair, I move adoption of ordinance

6273
05:09:28,261 --> 05:09:32,461
to approve rezone of the project site

6274
05:09:38,261 --> 05:09:41,261
from rsagb40 to rsbx7,000 currently

6275
05:09:41,261 --> 05:09:43,261
-- excuse me, I have to figure out

6276
05:09:43,261 --> 05:09:46,261
where that will parenthesis ends.

6277
05:09:46,261 --> 05:09:48,261
residential single family combined a

6278
05:09:48,261 --> 05:09:50,661
minimum building site of 7,000

6279
05:09:51,261 --> 05:09:53,261
square feet motion and second, all

6280
05:09:53,261 --> 05:09:54,261
those in favor, say aye?

6281
05:09:54,261 --> 05:09:55,261
>> aye.

6282
05:09:55,261 --> 05:09:56,261
>> opposed?

6283
05:09:56,261 --> 05:09:57,261
>> no.

6284
05:09:57,261 --> 05:10:00,261
>> mr. Chair, I move approval of the

6285
05:10:00,261 --> 05:10:02,261
variance to allow increase maximum

6286
05:10:02,261 --> 05:10:04,261
lot coverage the area cover by the

6287
05:10:04,261 --> 05:10:06,261
building and other structures

6288
05:10:06,261 --> 05:10:08,261
currently allowed per single story

6289
05:10:08,261 --> 05:10:09,261
residences within the residential

6290
05:10:09,261 --> 05:10:11,261
single family zoned district from 40%

6291
05:10:11,261 --> 05:10:13,261
to approximately 50% on only those

6292
05:10:13,261 --> 05:10:15,261
lots that are 8,000 square feet or

6293
05:10:15,261 --> 05:10:17,261
less within the project site.

6294
05:10:17,261 --> 05:10:20,261
>> and including the findings on

6295
05:10:20,261 --> 05:10:21,261
page 1145.

6296
05:10:21,261 --> 05:10:23,661
>> thank you, including those

6297
05:10:24,261 --> 05:10:25,261
findings as stipulated by counsel.

6298
05:10:25,261 --> 05:10:26,261
>> sec.

6299
05:10:26,261 --> 05:10:28,261
>> moved and seconded.

6300
05:10:28,261 --> 05:10:30,261
all those in favor say aye?

6301
05:10:30,261 --> 05:10:31,261
>> aye.

6302
05:10:31,261 --> 05:10:32,261
>> opposed in

6303
05:10:32,261 --> 05:10:33,261
>> no.

6304
05:10:33,261 --> 05:10:35,261
>> and finally move approval of the

6305
05:10:35,261 --> 05:10:37,261
vesting map and findings on 1144.

6306
05:10:37,261 --> 05:10:39,261
>> second.

6307
05:10:39,261 --> 05:10:40,261
>> motion and second, all those in

6308
05:10:40,261 --> 05:10:41,261
favor, say aye?

6309
05:10:41,261 --> 05:10:42,261
>> aye.

6310
05:10:42,261 --> 05:10:43,261
>> opposed?

6311
05:10:43,261 --> 05:10:44,261
>> no.

6312
05:10:44,261 --> 05:10:45,261
>> motion carries.

6313
05:10:45,261 --> 05:10:46,261
thanks.

6314
05:10:46,261 --> 05:10:48,261
okay, we'll now take up our

6315
05:10:48,261 --> 05:10:50,261
department items.

6316
05:10:50,261 --> 05:10:52,261
starting with item 5, health and

6317
05:10:52,261 --> 05:10:54,261
human services.

6318
05:11:09,261 --> 05:11:11,261
good afternoon, mr. Chairman and

6319
05:11:11,261 --> 05:11:13,261
members of the board, department of

6320
05:11:13,261 --> 05:11:14,201
health and human services adult

6321
05:11:14,201 --> 05:11:18,201
system of care and I bring to you

6322
05:11:18,201 --> 05:11:21,801
today an update for the mental

6323
05:11:22,201 --> 05:11:23,201
services act for '16-17 the board of

6324
05:11:23,201 --> 05:11:26,201
supervisors is required to approve

6325
05:11:26,201 --> 05:11:28,201
this plan annually.

6326
05:11:28,201 --> 05:11:31,201
and since 2005 we have implemented

6327
05:11:31,201 --> 05:11:32,201
the mental health services act in

6328
05:11:32,201 --> 05:11:34,201
placer county and providing services

6329
05:11:34,201 --> 05:11:37,201
to people able to expand intensive

6330
05:11:37,201 --> 05:11:39,201
mental health services and crisis

6331
05:11:39,201 --> 05:11:41,201
services and people with severe

6332
05:11:41,201 --> 05:11:43,201
mental illness and develop programs

6333
05:11:43,201 --> 05:11:44,201
for people that needed prevention

6334
05:11:44,201 --> 05:11:45,201
programs.

6335
05:11:45,201 --> 05:11:47,201
in addition, we have been able to

6336
05:11:47,201 --> 05:11:48,201
have added supportive housing

6337
05:11:48,201 --> 05:11:49,201
projects.

6338
05:11:49,201 --> 05:11:53,401
we have helped to train staff and

6339
05:11:54,201 --> 05:11:57,201
providers, and added services with

6340
05:11:57,201 --> 05:11:58,201
facilities and technology

6341
05:11:58,201 --> 05:12:00,201
improvements.

6342
05:12:00,201 --> 05:12:02,201
the funding has allowed us to manage

6343
05:12:02,201 --> 05:12:05,201
during the downturn and used the

6344
05:12:05,201 --> 05:12:06,201
funds to get use evenly through the

6345
05:12:06,201 --> 05:12:08,201
ups and downs that occur with the

6346
05:12:08,201 --> 05:12:09,201
funding and with the economy.

6347
05:12:09,201 --> 05:12:11,201
we have five different components of

6348
05:12:11,201 --> 05:12:12,201
this plan that each have different

6349
05:12:12,201 --> 05:12:13,201
goals.

6350
05:12:13,201 --> 05:12:16,141
I'll just highlight a couple of

6351
05:12:16,141 --> 05:12:19,141
things about 600 adults and children

6352
05:12:19,141 --> 05:12:20,141
received intensive outreach services.

6353
05:12:20,141 --> 05:12:23,141
we know those services always result

6354
05:12:23,141 --> 05:12:25,541
in reductions in homelessness,

6355
05:12:26,141 --> 05:12:28,141
reductions in psychiatric

6356
05:12:33,141 --> 05:12:34,141
hospitalization and reduction in jail

6357
05:12:34,141 --> 05:12:37,141
bed days and we'll serve

6358
05:12:37,141 --> 05:12:39,141
approximately 2500 people with

6359
05:12:39,141 --> 05:12:42,141
contracts with 45 agencies to provide

6360
05:12:47,141 --> 05:12:48,141
family and use with development and

6361
05:12:48,141 --> 05:12:50,141
just to note a few.

6362
05:12:50,141 --> 05:12:53,141
so these dollars are not

6363
05:12:57,141 --> 05:12:58,141
insignificant, $13,658,035 of

6364
05:12:58,141 --> 05:13:02,141
programs in our budget at health and

6365
05:13:02,141 --> 05:13:04,141
human services for '16 and 17 and for

6366
05:13:04,141 --> 05:13:07,141
that I would be happy to answer any

6367
05:13:07,141 --> 05:13:09,141
level of detail about the projects,

6368
05:13:09,141 --> 05:13:10,141
but recommend approval.

6369
05:13:10,141 --> 05:13:12,141
>> kirk your light is still on.

6370
05:13:12,141 --> 05:13:13,141
>> I'm sorry.

6371
05:13:13,141 --> 05:13:15,810
>> jennifer?

6372
05:13:15,810 --> 05:13:18,681
, you have the microphone, kirk's is

6373
05:13:19,810 --> 05:13:20,810
turned off.

6374
05:13:20,810 --> 05:13:21,810
>> thank you.

6375
05:13:21,810 --> 05:13:22,810
I want to say thank you.

6376
05:13:22,810 --> 05:13:25,810
I thank our health and human services

6377
05:13:25,810 --> 05:13:27,481
division particularly during the

6378
05:13:29,810 --> 05:13:32,810
downturn has done just incredible

6379
05:13:33,810 --> 05:13:34,810
things with limited resources.

6380
05:13:34,810 --> 05:13:36,810
I would hope our board based on some

6381
05:13:36,810 --> 05:13:38,810
of the discussion earlier this

6382
05:13:38,810 --> 05:13:40,810
morning particularly in light of what

6383
05:13:40,810 --> 05:13:42,810
supervisor holmes raised as concerns

6384
05:13:42,810 --> 05:13:44,810
could figure out a way that we can

6385
05:13:44,810 --> 05:13:46,810
find more dollars?

6386
05:13:46,810 --> 05:13:50,881
and if we do need to spend additional

6387
05:13:54,810 --> 05:13:57,810
general fund dollar it's absolutely

6388
05:13:57,810 --> 05:13:59,810
critical.

6389
05:13:59,810 --> 05:14:00,810
from my perspective we're seeing more

6390
05:14:00,810 --> 05:14:04,810
people with mental health issue s and

6391
05:14:04,810 --> 05:14:07,810
while we're doing a yeoman's work we

6392
05:14:07,810 --> 05:14:09,810
can't keep up with the rising tide of

6393
05:14:09,810 --> 05:14:10,810
challenges.

6394
05:14:10,810 --> 05:14:12,810
it's something that the county alone

6395
05:14:12,810 --> 05:14:14,210
can't do and we need to do with our

6396
05:14:14,210 --> 05:14:17,210
partners at the cities and state and

6397
05:14:17,210 --> 05:14:20,210
frankly need help from our federal

6398
05:14:20,210 --> 05:14:22,210
representatives as well.

6399
05:14:23,210 --> 05:14:25,210
if we don't start trying to get out

6400
05:14:25,210 --> 05:14:28,210
in front of this rising tide, we're

6401
05:14:28,210 --> 05:14:32,210
absolutely going to be subsumed by it.

6402
05:14:32,210 --> 05:14:33,210
again, sincere thanks to the greatest

6403
05:14:33,210 --> 05:14:35,210
work you have done.

6404
05:14:35,210 --> 05:14:37,210
it's absolutely phenomenal and my

6405
05:14:37,210 --> 05:14:38,210
commitment to you, I'm going to work

6406
05:14:38,210 --> 05:14:40,210
as hard as I can do get this board

6407
05:14:40,210 --> 05:14:44,821
and all of our partners to bring more

6408
05:14:45,210 --> 05:14:46,210
funding and services to the table.

6409
05:14:46,210 --> 05:14:47,210
>> that is great.

6410
05:14:47,210 --> 05:14:48,210
thank you so much.

6411
05:14:48,210 --> 05:14:50,210
one thing I would say is some of the

6412
05:14:50,210 --> 05:14:52,210
challenge is not so much the

6413
05:14:52,210 --> 05:14:54,210
traditional services, but services in

6414
05:14:54,210 --> 05:14:56,210
the field and again, some of those

6415
05:14:56,210 --> 05:14:58,210
people that we're most worried about

6416
05:14:58,210 --> 05:14:59,210
are less initially interested in

6417
05:14:59,210 --> 05:15:01,210
services and part of the work is not

6418
05:15:01,210 --> 05:15:02,210
just the services, but engaging

6419
05:15:02,210 --> 05:15:03,210
people into services.

6420
05:15:03,210 --> 05:15:05,210
>> absolutely.

6421
05:15:06,210 --> 05:15:07,210
>> thank you.

6422
05:15:07,210 --> 05:15:08,210
pleasure of the board?

6423
05:15:08,210 --> 05:15:09,210
anyone from the public who would like

6424
05:15:09,210 --> 05:15:11,210
to address this item?

6425
05:15:11,210 --> 05:15:12,210
seeing none, pleasure of the board?

6426
05:15:12,210 --> 05:15:13,210
>> move.

6427
05:15:13,210 --> 05:15:14,961
>> second.

6428
05:15:14,961 --> 05:15:15,961
>> moved and seconded.

6429
05:15:15,961 --> 05:15:16,961
>> all those in favor, say aye?

6430
05:15:16,961 --> 05:15:17,961
>> aye.

6431
05:15:17,961 --> 05:15:18,961
>> opposed?

6432
05:15:18,961 --> 05:15:19,961
motion carried thank you maureen.

6433
05:15:19,961 --> 05:15:22,961
next item 6 is human resources

6434
05:15:22,961 --> 05:15:23,961
position and competition ordinance.

6435
05:15:23,961 --> 05:15:24,961
judy.

6436
05:15:24,961 --> 05:15:26,961
>> good afternoon, chairman weygandt

6437
05:15:26,961 --> 05:15:28,961
and members of the board. Human

6438
05:15:28,961 --> 05:15:30,961
resources department and today we're

6439
05:15:30,961 --> 05:15:32,961
introducing an ordinance and seeking

6440
05:15:32,961 --> 05:15:34,961
approval of related budget revision

6441
05:15:34,961 --> 05:15:36,961
and changed reflected in the

6442
05:15:36,961 --> 05:15:38,961
ordinance b.s. Abolishing class cage

6443
05:15:38,961 --> 05:15:39,961
of chief assistant county executive

6444
05:15:39,961 --> 05:15:42,961
officer and changing the salary range

6445
05:15:42,961 --> 05:15:45,961
for the assistant county executive

6446
05:15:45,961 --> 05:15:46,961
officer, creating civil, legal

6447
05:15:46,961 --> 05:15:48,961
secretary class series and abolish

6448
05:15:48,961 --> 05:15:50,961
the classification of secretary to

6449
05:15:50,961 --> 05:15:52,961
county council.

6450
05:15:52,961 --> 05:15:55,361
when the chief assistant

6451
05:15:55,961 --> 05:15:58,961
ceo retired earlier this year

6452
05:15:58,961 --> 05:15:59,961
additional duties were assigned and

6453
05:15:59,961 --> 05:16:01,961
the scope of the position support a

6454
05:16:01,961 --> 05:16:04,961
salary increase to align up more

6455
05:16:04,961 --> 05:16:05,961
closely with other positions in the

6456
05:16:05,961 --> 05:16:06,961
county with a similar scope and level

6457
05:16:06,961 --> 05:16:08,961
of responsibility.

6458
05:16:08,961 --> 05:16:10,961
the chief assistant ceo

6459
05:16:10,961 --> 05:16:11,961
classification is no longer in use

6460
05:16:11,961 --> 05:16:13,901
and we would like to have that

6461
05:16:13,901 --> 05:16:14,901
abolished.

6462
05:16:14,901 --> 05:16:16,901
at the september 12th meeting of the

6463
05:16:16,901 --> 05:16:18,901
civil service commission they

6464
05:16:18,901 --> 05:16:20,901
approved creation of the new legal

6465
05:16:20,901 --> 05:16:22,901
secretary calculation cation series

6466
05:16:22,901 --> 05:16:24,901
and corresponding salary ranges for

6467
05:16:24,901 --> 05:16:26,901
four new classifications as outlined

6468
05:16:26,901 --> 05:16:28,901
in the staff report before you and

6469
05:16:28,901 --> 05:16:30,901
also approved the reclassification of

6470
05:16:30,901 --> 05:16:31,901
several individuals and

6471
05:16:31,901 --> 05:16:32,901
non-competitive promotion of

6472
05:16:32,901 --> 05:16:35,901
incumbents, as well as approving the

6473
05:16:35,901 --> 05:16:37,901
abolishment of classification of

6474
05:16:37,901 --> 05:16:38,901
secretary to county council.

6475
05:16:38,901 --> 05:16:40,901
you have an extensive staff report

6476
05:16:40,901 --> 05:16:41,901
accompanying this item and in the

6477
05:16:41,901 --> 05:16:43,901
interest of time I will skip right to

6478
05:16:43,901 --> 05:16:45,901
the conclusion of my presentation and

6479
05:16:45,901 --> 05:16:46,901
be happy to answer any questions that

6480
05:16:46,901 --> 05:16:48,901
you.

6481
05:16:50,901 --> 05:16:51,901
>> any questions? I see none.

6482
05:16:51,901 --> 05:16:52,901
thank you.

6483
05:16:52,901 --> 05:16:53,901
anyone from the public who wishes to

6484
05:16:53,901 --> 05:16:54,901
address this item?

6485
05:16:54,901 --> 05:16:55,901
seeing none, I will bring did back to

6486
05:16:55,901 --> 05:16:57,901
the board.

6487
05:16:57,901 --> 05:16:58,901
moved and seconded, all those in

6488
05:16:58,901 --> 05:16:59,901
favor, say aye?

6489
05:16:59,901 --> 05:17:00,901
>> aye.

6490
05:17:00,901 --> 05:17:01,901
>> opposed motion carries.

6491
05:17:01,901 --> 05:17:02,901
thank you.

6492
05:17:02,901 --> 05:17:03,901
>> thank you.

6493
05:17:03,901 --> 05:17:04,901
>> next public works countywide

6494
05:17:04,901 --> 05:17:06,901
construction projects.

6495
05:17:06,901 --> 05:17:08,901
rob.

6496
05:17:09,901 --> 05:17:11,901
>> good afternoon, chairman weygandt

6497
05:17:11,901 --> 05:17:13,841
and members of the board, public

6498
05:17:13,841 --> 05:17:15,841
works and facilities.

6499
05:17:15,841 --> 05:17:19,841
we're of I have three items related

6500
05:17:19,841 --> 05:17:21,841
to job order contracting and try to

6501
05:17:21,841 --> 05:17:23,841
get through them fairly quickly.

6502
05:17:23,841 --> 05:17:25,841
first one we're requesting your

6503
05:17:25,841 --> 05:17:27,841
approval of a change order to

6504
05:17:27,841 --> 05:17:31,441
increase the job contract with otto

6505
05:17:32,841 --> 05:17:34,841
construction by $300,000.

6506
05:17:37,841 --> 05:17:39,841
in order to complete a number of

6507
05:17:39,841 --> 05:17:41,841
projects that are currently planned

6508
05:17:41,841 --> 05:17:43,841
and under city.

6509
05:17:46,841 --> 05:17:48,841
august 18, 2015 the board approved

6510
05:17:48,841 --> 05:17:51,841
the original contract for $1 million.

6511
05:17:59,841 --> 05:18:01,841
the performance-based system rewards

6512
05:18:01,841 --> 05:18:03,841
outstanding work with additional

6513
05:18:03,841 --> 05:18:05,841
orders and until time runs out or

6514
05:18:05,841 --> 05:18:07,841
limit is met otto has approximately

6515
05:18:07,841 --> 05:18:10,841
20 days remaining in their contract

6516
05:18:11,841 --> 05:18:12,841
time, approximately $397,000 in their

6517
05:18:12,841 --> 05:18:14,781
contract amount.

6518
05:18:14,781 --> 05:18:16,781
we anticipate the need for additional

6519
05:18:16,781 --> 05:18:19,781
job orders to complete projects that

6520
05:18:19,781 --> 05:18:21,781
are currently planned in the pipeline

6521
05:18:21,781 --> 05:18:23,781
and in progress.

6522
05:18:24,781 --> 05:18:27,181
and additional $206,000 is reserved

6523
05:18:31,781 --> 05:18:32,781
in this amount for unanticipated

6524
05:18:32,781 --> 05:18:33,781
needs until new contracts are in

6525
05:18:33,781 --> 05:18:35,781
place.

6526
05:18:35,781 --> 05:18:36,781
otto provided excellent construction

6527
05:18:36,781 --> 05:18:39,781
services including the sidewalk up

6528
05:18:39,781 --> 05:18:42,181
above the garden amphitheater.

6529
05:18:43,781 --> 05:18:46,781
some relief valve in the system at

6530
05:18:46,781 --> 05:18:48,781
dry creek park and welcome center

6531
05:18:48,781 --> 05:18:52,381
egress ramp and they have recently

6532
05:18:52,781 --> 05:18:54,781
started on the administrative

6533
05:18:54,781 --> 05:18:55,781
building across the street.

6534
05:18:55,781 --> 05:18:58,781
the next job order is anticipated to

6535
05:18:58,781 --> 05:19:02,781
be the secure parking for building b

6536
05:19:02,781 --> 05:19:04,781
in the justice center.

6537
05:19:04,781 --> 05:19:08,781
in order to complete these job order

6538
05:19:08,781 --> 05:19:10,781
projects, it's recommended that your

6539
05:19:10,781 --> 05:19:13,781
board approve the attached contract

6540
05:19:14,721 --> 05:19:16,721
change order no. 1 in amount of

6541
05:19:16,721 --> 05:19:17,721
$300,000.

6542
05:19:17,721 --> 05:19:20,721
the estimated total cost of job

6543
05:19:20,721 --> 05:19:22,721
orders will be $1.3 million.

6544
05:19:22,721 --> 05:19:26,921
and there are sufficient funds in the

6545
05:19:28,721 --> 05:19:29,721
respective capital projects.

6546
05:19:29,721 --> 05:19:30,721
I would be happy to answer any

6547
05:19:30,721 --> 05:19:31,721
questions?

6548
05:19:31,721 --> 05:19:32,721
>> questions?

6549
05:19:32,721 --> 05:19:33,721
anyone from the public?

6550
05:19:33,721 --> 05:19:34,721
seeing none, what is the pleasure of

6551
05:19:34,721 --> 05:19:36,721
the board?

6552
05:19:37,721 --> 05:19:38,721
moved and seconded, all those in

6553
05:19:38,721 --> 05:19:39,721
favor, say aye?

6554
05:19:39,721 --> 05:19:40,721
>> aye.

6555
05:19:40,721 --> 05:19:41,721
>> opposed?

6556
05:19:41,721 --> 05:19:42,721
motion carries.

6557
05:19:42,721 --> 05:19:43,721
>> the second item is asking that

6558
05:19:43,721 --> 05:19:45,721
your board award job order with otto

6559
05:19:45,721 --> 05:19:48,721
construction for the secure parking

6560
05:19:48,721 --> 05:19:50,721
project at building b at santucci

6561
05:19:50,721 --> 05:19:54,321
justice center in the amount of

6562
05:19:54,721 --> 05:19:55,721
$311,740.11.

6563
05:19:55,721 --> 05:19:56,721
and authorize the director of public

6564
05:19:56,721 --> 05:20:00,321
works and facilities or designee to

6565
05:20:00,721 --> 05:20:02,721
execute said job order and approve

6566
05:20:02,721 --> 05:20:05,121
any supplemental job orders

6567
05:20:05,721 --> 05:20:08,721
consistent with the purchasing manual

6568
05:20:08,721 --> 05:20:10,721
and public contract code.

6569
05:20:10,721 --> 05:20:13,721
on august 18th your board awarded the

6570
05:20:13,721 --> 05:20:15,721
contract to otto, and authorized the

6571
05:20:15,721 --> 05:20:17,721
director of public works and

6572
05:20:17,721 --> 05:20:19,721
facilities to execute job orders up

6573
05:20:19,721 --> 05:20:21,721
to $250,000.

6574
05:20:22,721 --> 05:20:26,321
this job order exceeds that amount.

6575
05:20:27,721 --> 05:20:29,721
on april 26th, purchasing manager

6576
05:20:29,721 --> 05:20:32,721
approved a contract with mfdbr

6577
05:20:34,721 --> 05:20:37,721
architects for the design and

6578
05:20:37,721 --> 05:20:39,721
construction documents for secure

6579
05:20:39,721 --> 05:20:40,721
parking at building b.

6580
05:20:40,721 --> 05:20:42,721
the scope of the project will

6581
05:20:42,721 --> 05:20:44,721
provide secure parking environment

6582
05:20:44,721 --> 05:20:46,721
for the district of district

6583
05:20:46,721 --> 05:20:48,721
attorney, revenue services, the

6584
05:20:48,721 --> 05:20:50,721
assessor, and probation.

6585
05:20:50,721 --> 05:20:54,721
it will include rod iron fencing, for

6586
05:20:54,721 --> 05:20:56,721
new controlled gates, restriping,

6587
05:20:56,721 --> 05:20:57,721
relocation of regular and accessible

6588
05:20:57,721 --> 05:21:01,921
parking spaces, as well as secure --

6589
05:21:05,721 --> 05:21:08,721
in the secure staff area, and the

6590
05:21:08,721 --> 05:21:10,721
public area, sorry.

6591
05:21:10,721 --> 05:21:11,721
construction documents were completed

6592
05:21:11,721 --> 05:21:14,661
and given to otto for pricing.

6593
05:21:14,661 --> 05:21:15,661
staff has reviewed and determined

6594
05:21:15,661 --> 05:21:17,661
that the proposal is complete and

6595
05:21:17,661 --> 05:21:18,661
responsive.

6596
05:21:18,661 --> 05:21:20,661
in order to proceed, it's requested

6597
05:21:20,661 --> 05:21:23,661
that your board award the job order

6598
05:21:23,661 --> 05:21:25,661
to otto construction and authorize

6599
05:21:25,661 --> 05:21:29,261
the director of public works and

6600
05:21:29,661 --> 05:21:32,661
facilities, to execute the job order

6601
05:21:32,661 --> 05:21:33,661
pursuant to the county purchasing

6602
05:21:33,661 --> 05:21:35,661
manual.

6603
05:21:36,661 --> 05:21:39,661
estimated total project cost is

6604
05:21:44,661 --> 05:21:46,661
$510,031 including $342,915 for

6605
05:21:48,661 --> 05:21:50,661
construction and construction

6606
05:21:51,661 --> 05:21:52,661
contingency. $35,000 for consultant

6607
05:21:52,661 --> 05:21:54,661
services.

6608
05:21:56,661 --> 05:21:58,661
$132,116 for project management.

6609
05:21:59,661 --> 05:22:02,661
project contingency fees and account

6610
05:22:02,661 --> 05:22:04,661
-- funding is available in the

6611
05:22:04,661 --> 05:22:05,661
project account and capital projects

6612
05:22:05,661 --> 05:22:06,661
fund.

6613
05:22:06,661 --> 05:22:07,661
>> thank you.

6614
05:22:07,661 --> 05:22:08,661
questions?

6615
05:22:08,661 --> 05:22:09,661
anyone from the public?

6616
05:22:09,661 --> 05:22:11,661
pleasure of the board?

6617
05:22:11,661 --> 05:22:12,661
>>

6618
05:22:12,661 --> 05:22:13,601
>> second.

6619
05:22:13,601 --> 05:22:14,601
>> moved and seconded, all those in

6620
05:22:14,601 --> 05:22:15,601
favor, say aye?

6621
05:22:15,601 --> 05:22:16,601
>> aye.

6622
05:22:16,601 --> 05:22:17,601
>> thank you

6623
05:22:17,601 --> 05:22:18,601
>> motion carried.

6624
05:22:18,601 --> 05:22:20,601
>> we have one more.

6625
05:22:20,601 --> 05:22:21,601
>> yes.

6626
05:22:21,601 --> 05:22:25,201
>> this is requesting your board --

6627
05:22:25,601 --> 05:22:27,601
that your board approve and award

6628
05:22:27,601 --> 05:22:29,601
bid to staples construction

6629
05:22:29,601 --> 05:22:32,601
company and pride industries one, the

6630
05:22:32,601 --> 05:22:35,601
two lowest responsible and responsive

6631
05:22:35,601 --> 05:22:37,601
bidders to the job order contracting

6632
05:22:37,601 --> 05:22:40,601
in an amount not-to-exceed $1 million

6633
05:22:41,601 --> 05:22:44,601
per contract for 12 -month period,

6634
05:22:45,601 --> 05:22:47,601
commencing after the date of their

6635
05:22:47,601 --> 05:22:48,601
first notice to proceed on each

6636
05:22:48,601 --> 05:22:49,601
contract.

6637
05:22:49,601 --> 05:22:51,601
and authorize the director of public

6638
05:22:51,601 --> 05:22:54,601
works and facilities or designee to

6639
05:22:54,601 --> 05:22:58,601
execute the contracts and to sign job

6640
05:22:58,601 --> 05:23:00,601
orders up to $250,000 and approve any

6641
05:23:00,601 --> 05:23:02,601
supplemental job orders consistent

6642
05:23:02,601 --> 05:23:04,601
with the purchasing manual.

6643
05:23:04,601 --> 05:23:07,601
and the public contract code.

6644
05:23:07,601 --> 05:23:09,601
on august 23rd your board approved

6645
05:23:09,601 --> 05:23:12,601
plans and specs and authorized

6646
05:23:12,601 --> 05:23:14,601
solicitation.

6647
05:23:15,541 --> 05:23:18,541
bids 16 building and bid were

6648
05:23:18,541 --> 05:23:19,541
notified and bid documents reviewed

6649
05:23:19,541 --> 05:23:21,541
by 46 trade contractors on public

6650
05:23:21,541 --> 05:23:22,541
purchase.

6651
05:23:22,541 --> 05:23:26,141
bids were opened on september 15th.

6652
05:23:27,541 --> 05:23:29,541
resulting in five responsive bids,

6653
05:23:29,541 --> 05:23:31,541
the two apparent responsive and

6654
05:23:31,541 --> 05:23:34,541
responsible low bidders are staples

6655
05:23:35,541 --> 05:23:36,541
construction company from ventura,

6656
05:23:36,541 --> 05:23:37,541
california and pride industries one from

6657
05:23:37,541 --> 05:23:39,541
roseville, california.

6658
05:23:40,541 --> 05:23:44,741
as you know these job orders will

6659
05:23:45,541 --> 05:23:47,941
provide indefinite quantity contracts

6660
05:23:48,541 --> 05:23:51,541
for a variety of projects and

6661
05:23:51,541 --> 05:23:54,541
maintenance work that are not --

6662
05:23:54,541 --> 05:23:58,541
that are non- -- they are remodeled

6663
05:23:58,541 --> 05:23:59,541
and not applicable to new

6664
05:23:59,541 --> 05:24:01,541
construction.

6665
05:24:05,541 --> 05:24:08,541
the minimum contract value is $50,000

6666
05:24:09,541 --> 05:24:11,541
per contract.

6667
05:24:12,541 --> 05:24:14,481
and the estimated maximum value is $1

6668
05:24:14,481 --> 05:24:15,481
million.

6669
05:24:15,481 --> 05:24:18,481
the county does reserve the right to

6670
05:24:18,481 --> 05:24:21,481
increase that value to $4.6 million

6671
05:24:21,481 --> 05:24:23,481
as authorized by the public contract

6672
05:24:23,481 --> 05:24:24,481
code.

6673
05:24:24,481 --> 05:24:26,481
staff recommends that your board

6674
05:24:26,481 --> 05:24:28,481
authorize the director of public

6675
05:24:28,481 --> 05:24:32,810
works and facilities to approve the

6676
05:24:33,481 --> 05:24:35,481
contracts, the job orders up to

6677
05:24:35,481 --> 05:24:37,481
$250,000.

6678
05:24:39,481 --> 05:24:43,810
and any supplemental job orders for

6679
05:24:43,481 --> 05:24:45,481
funded projects and maintenance work.

6680
05:24:45,481 --> 05:24:47,481
staff will return to your board with

6681
05:24:47,481 --> 05:24:50,481
any projects that do not meet that

6682
05:24:50,481 --> 05:24:52,481
criteria.

6683
05:24:52,481 --> 05:24:54,481
the estimated total cost of job

6684
05:24:54,481 --> 05:24:57,481
orders awarded is anticipated to be

6685
05:24:57,481 --> 05:25:00,481
$2 million, funding is included in

6686
05:25:01,481 --> 05:25:04,481
the fiscal year 2016-17 capital

6687
05:25:04,481 --> 05:25:05,481
projects fund budget.

6688
05:25:05,481 --> 05:25:07,481
with that, I would be happy to answer

6689
05:25:07,481 --> 05:25:08,481
any questions that you have on that

6690
05:25:08,481 --> 05:25:09,481
one.

6691
05:25:09,481 --> 05:25:11,481
>> questions?

6692
05:25:11,481 --> 05:25:13,421
anyone from the public?

6693
05:25:13,421 --> 05:25:17,210
seeing none, pleasure of the board.

6694
05:25:18,421 --> 05:25:19,421
>> moved and seconded, all those in

6695
05:25:19,421 --> 05:25:20,421
favor, say aye?

6696
05:25:20,421 --> 05:25:21,421
>> aye.

6697
05:25:21,421 --> 05:25:22,421
>> opposed?

6698
05:25:22,421 --> 05:25:23,421
motion carried.

6699
05:25:23,421 --> 05:25:24,421
thank you, rob.

6700
05:25:24,421 --> 05:25:28,210
next we have a dial-a-ride agreement.

6701
05:25:28,421 --> 05:25:30,421
>> thank you.

6702
05:25:30,421 --> 05:25:33,421
will garner, public works and

6703
05:25:33,421 --> 05:25:34,421
facilities department.

6704
05:25:34,421 --> 05:25:37,421
this item is to extend the

6705
05:25:37,421 --> 05:25:38,421
dial-a-ride contract that we

6706
05:25:38,421 --> 05:25:40,421
currently have for another year, the

6707
05:25:40,421 --> 05:25:43,421
contract awarded in 2013 was done so

6708
05:25:43,421 --> 05:25:45,421
competitively, and allows for two

6709
05:25:45,421 --> 05:25:47,421
1-year extensions and we're asking

6710
05:25:47,421 --> 05:25:50,421
for amendment no. 2 which is the

6711
05:25:50,421 --> 05:25:51,421
first one-year extension, amendment

6712
05:25:51,421 --> 05:25:54,421
no. 1 by the way was when we added

6713
05:25:54,421 --> 05:25:57,421
the city of lincoln a year or so ago

6714
05:25:57,421 --> 05:25:58,421
to our dial-a-ride contract.

6715
05:25:58,421 --> 05:26:01,421
so this one is extending what we do

6716
05:26:01,421 --> 05:26:05,210
now for another year and this

6717
05:26:05,421 --> 05:26:07,421
contract the contract mv

6718
05:26:07,421 --> 05:26:08,421
transportation drives the buses,

6719
05:26:08,421 --> 05:26:09,421
maintains the buss and does the

6720
05:26:09,421 --> 05:26:12,421
dispatcher and a lots of paperwork

6721
05:26:12,421 --> 05:26:15,361
that we ask them to do.

6722
05:26:15,361 --> 05:26:18,361
the increase is about 6.1% over the

6723
05:26:18,361 --> 05:26:19,361
current year.

6724
05:26:19,361 --> 05:26:23,361
I'm told that this is mostly to do

6725
05:26:23,361 --> 05:26:26,361
with labor costs both drivers and

6726
05:26:26,361 --> 05:26:27,361
mechanics, and the difficulty in

6727
05:26:27,361 --> 05:26:28,361
retaining drivers.

6728
05:26:28,361 --> 05:26:29,361
they are trying to make a more

6729
05:26:29,361 --> 05:26:32,361
competitive wage in order to do so in

6730
05:26:32,361 --> 05:26:35,961
order to recruit and retain drivers

6731
05:26:36,361 --> 05:26:37,361
in the dial-a-ride service.

6732
05:26:37,361 --> 05:26:39,361
with that cost increase it's still

6733
05:26:39,361 --> 05:26:41,361
actually much lower than the previous

6734
05:26:41,361 --> 05:26:43,361
contract that we had up until 2013

6735
05:26:43,361 --> 05:26:45,361
with pride industries.

6736
05:26:46,361 --> 05:26:48,361
so mv, because some of their other

6737
05:26:48,361 --> 05:26:51,361
work that this occurring in the area is

6738
05:26:51,361 --> 05:26:53,361
able to coordinate the administration

6739
05:26:53,361 --> 05:26:56,361
that think do with some other

6740
05:26:56,361 --> 05:26:58,361
programs and contracts to keep our

6741
05:26:58,361 --> 05:26:59,361
costs low.

6742
05:26:59,361 --> 05:27:00,361
there are two different cost

6743
05:27:00,361 --> 05:27:02,361
structures.

6744
05:27:02,361 --> 05:27:04,361
one for lincoln and one for

6745
05:27:04,361 --> 05:27:06,361
everything outside of lincoln and

6746
05:27:06,361 --> 05:27:07,361
that is because we added lincoln on.

6747
05:27:07,361 --> 05:27:09,361
it's remote and their drivers have to

6748
05:27:09,361 --> 05:27:11,361
report there.

6749
05:27:11,361 --> 05:27:13,301
and they maintain three buses that

6750
05:27:13,301 --> 05:27:15,301
were once lincoln's that are more

6751
05:27:15,301 --> 05:27:16,301
expensive to maintain. So we decided

6752
05:27:16,301 --> 05:27:19,301
to keep that as a separate structure

6753
05:27:19,301 --> 05:27:23,501
to keep the rest of the costs

6754
05:27:24,301 --> 05:27:27,901
relatively lower, but still ends up

6755
05:27:28,301 --> 05:27:30,301
being a good deal -- in this case

6756
05:27:30,301 --> 05:27:32,301
it's cheaper than what he could do

6757
05:27:32,301 --> 05:27:36,301
with our own staff because of the

6758
05:27:36,301 --> 05:27:38,301
specialty, with the dispatching costs

6759
05:27:38,301 --> 05:27:39,301
and with that, we're asking for

6760
05:27:39,301 --> 05:27:41,301
authorization for the director of

6761
05:27:41,301 --> 05:27:44,301
public works and facilities, or

6762
05:27:44,301 --> 05:27:46,301
designee to executive amendment no. 2

6763
05:27:46,301 --> 05:27:49,301
do contract no. 1159 with mv

6764
05:27:50,301 --> 05:27:52,701
transportation to provide operations

6765
05:27:54,301 --> 05:27:57,901
for placer county dial-a-ride not to

6766
05:27:58,301 --> 05:28:00,301
exceed $1,040,046 for the period of

6767
05:28:00,301 --> 05:28:02,301
november 1, 2016 to october 31, 2017.

6768
05:28:03,301 --> 05:28:04,301
if there are any questions?

6769
05:28:04,301 --> 05:28:05,301
>> any questions?

6770
05:28:05,301 --> 05:28:07,301
anyone from the public, seeing none,

6771
05:28:07,301 --> 05:28:08,301
pleasure of the board?

6772
05:28:08,301 --> 05:28:10,301
>> move approval.

6773
05:28:10,301 --> 05:28:12,301
>> second.

6774
05:28:12,301 --> 05:28:13,241
>> moved and seconded, all those in

6775
05:28:13,241 --> 05:28:14,241
favor, say aye?

6776
05:28:14,241 --> 05:28:15,241
>> aye.

6777
05:28:15,241 --> 05:28:16,241
>> opposed? Motion carried, thank

6778
05:28:16,241 --> 05:28:18,241
you.

6779
05:28:22,241 --> 05:28:24,641
mark command vehicle purchase

6780
05:28:27,241 --> 05:28:28,241
consideration for the sheriff's

6781
05:28:28,241 --> 05:28:30,241
department.

6782
05:28:33,241 --> 05:28:36,241
good afternoon, chairman weygandt and

6783
05:28:36,241 --> 05:28:37,241
members of the board, placer county

6784
05:28:37,241 --> 05:28:39,241
sheriff's office, back on september

6785
05:28:39,241 --> 05:28:42,241
13th your board approved the final

6786
05:28:42,241 --> 05:28:43,241
budget including the purchase of the

6787
05:28:43,241 --> 05:28:45,241
mobile command vehicle and what I'm

6788
05:28:45,241 --> 05:28:47,241
here today is asking to you approve

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05:28:47,241 --> 05:28:49,241
the purchase of that vehicle and

6790
05:28:49,241 --> 05:28:51,241
budget revision to move $49,000 from

6791
05:28:51,241 --> 05:28:53,241
the ceo budget into the sheriff's

6792
05:28:53,241 --> 05:28:54,241
budget and authorize the puerto rico

6793
05:28:54,241 --> 05:28:55,241
manager to execute all of these

6794
05:28:55,241 --> 05:28:56,241
documents.

6795
05:28:56,241 --> 05:28:59,241
the vehicle will be purchased by a

6796
05:28:59,241 --> 05:29:02,241
company named ldv out of wisconsin.

6797
05:29:02,241 --> 05:29:04,241
and I really -- whether you put

6798
05:29:04,241 --> 05:29:07,241
this into our budget on behalf of the

6799
05:29:07,241 --> 05:29:09,241
sheriff I can't thank you enough for

6800
05:29:09,241 --> 05:29:10,241
the asset and what it means to the

6801
05:29:10,241 --> 05:29:14,181
men and women of the placer county

6802
05:29:14,181 --> 05:29:15,181
sheriff's office and placer county.

6803
05:29:15,181 --> 05:29:17,181
this will be a phenomenal asset for

6804
05:29:17,181 --> 05:29:19,181
command and control of major

6805
05:29:19,181 --> 05:29:20,181
incidents throughout the county.

6806
05:29:20,181 --> 05:29:21,181
if there are any questions, I'm happy

6807
05:29:21,181 --> 05:29:22,181
to answer?

6808
05:29:22,181 --> 05:29:23,181
>> jennifer?

6809
05:29:23,181 --> 05:29:24,181
>> thank you, mark.

6810
05:29:24,181 --> 05:29:26,181
two quick questions.

6811
05:29:26,181 --> 05:29:27,181
first I just want to clarify this is

6812
05:29:27,181 --> 05:29:30,781
coming out of the criminal justice

6813
05:29:32,181 --> 05:29:35,181
pot of the ceo's appropriation?

6814
05:29:35,181 --> 05:29:38,181
>> yes, ma'am, $700,000 put into the

6815
05:29:38,181 --> 05:29:40,581
sheriff's budget and additional

6816
05:29:42,181 --> 05:29:43,181
$49,500 to come from the criminal

6817
05:29:43,181 --> 05:29:45,181
justice budget.

6818
05:29:45,181 --> 05:29:46,181
>> right specifically from the

6819
05:29:46,181 --> 05:29:47,181
criminal justice portion of the ceo

6820
05:29:47,181 --> 05:29:48,181
budget?

6821
05:29:48,181 --> 05:29:51,181
>> yes, ma'am, it's a completely

6822
05:29:51,181 --> 05:29:52,181
different appropriation, 11 02 a

6823
05:29:52,181 --> 05:29:54,181
public safety budget within ceo.

6824
05:29:54,181 --> 05:29:55,181
>> perfect.

6825
05:29:55,181 --> 05:29:57,181
>> part of fund 110.

6826
05:29:57,181 --> 05:30:00,181
>> just for the knowledge of all of

6827
05:30:00,181 --> 05:30:02,181
us, and anyone who may still be

6828
05:30:02,181 --> 05:30:05,181
listening after a very long day.

6829
05:30:05,181 --> 05:30:08,181
, what would be the purpose of this?

6830
05:30:08,181 --> 05:30:11,181
how would they be utilized?

6831
05:30:13,181 --> 05:30:14,181
>> it would serve as command and

6832
05:30:14,181 --> 05:30:16,181
control center for all of placer

6833
05:30:16,181 --> 05:30:19,181
county, whether it's a fire, whether

6834
05:30:19,181 --> 05:30:22,181
it's a critical incident such as

6835
05:30:22,181 --> 05:30:24,181
kemper oaks where mike davis was

6836
05:30:24,181 --> 05:30:26,181
moved and the forest hill fire is a

6837
05:30:26,181 --> 05:30:27,181
perfect example happening in last few

6838
05:30:27,181 --> 05:30:29,181
months.

6839
05:30:30,181 --> 05:30:31,181
our folks were running command and

6840
05:30:31,181 --> 05:30:34,181
control off the hood of a vehicle, to

6841
05:30:34,181 --> 05:30:35,181
be honest with you.

6842
05:30:35,181 --> 05:30:37,181
>> this is a mobile operation.

6843
05:30:37,181 --> 05:30:39,181
>> mobile operation.

6844
05:30:39,181 --> 05:30:40,181
>> wireless connectivity.

6845
05:30:40,181 --> 05:30:41,181
>> absolutely and put us light years

6846
05:30:41,181 --> 05:30:43,181
ahead of the our capabilities now.

6847
05:30:43,181 --> 05:30:45,181
>> excellent; I just wanted to make

6848
05:30:45,181 --> 05:30:46,181
sure that people heard that.

6849
05:30:46,181 --> 05:30:47,181
>> absolutely.

6850
05:30:47,181 --> 05:30:48,181
>> jim.

6851
05:30:48,181 --> 05:30:50,181
>> what are you going to do with the

6852
05:30:50,181 --> 05:30:51,181
old mobile command vehicle?

6853
05:30:51,181 --> 05:30:53,181
>> the old mobile command vehicle?

6854
05:30:53,181 --> 05:30:55,181
for those who don't know what

6855
05:30:55,181 --> 05:30:57,181
supervisor holmes is referring to we

6856
05:30:57,181 --> 05:30:59,181
have an old car trailer we tow behind

6857
05:30:59,181 --> 05:31:01,181
a pickup struck that actually doesn't

6858
05:31:01,181 --> 05:31:03,181
leave our yard, because we can't take

6859
05:31:03,181 --> 05:31:05,181
it anywhere.

6860
05:31:05,181 --> 05:31:06,181
[laughter ], I appreciate the humor

6861
05:31:06,181 --> 05:31:08,181
and I thought you were going to ask

6862
05:31:08,181 --> 05:31:10,181
me what I'm doing at 5:30?

6863
05:31:10,181 --> 05:31:11,181
>> what are you doing with the

6864
05:31:11,181 --> 05:31:13,121
pickup truck?

6865
05:31:13,121 --> 05:31:17,321
>> we currently use to sar and to

6866
05:31:21,121 --> 05:31:22,121
supervisor holme's point we don't use

6867
05:31:22,121 --> 05:31:25,121
it, if you want to take it too tahoe,

6868
05:31:25,121 --> 05:31:27,121
you have to try to get it over the

6869
05:31:27,121 --> 05:31:30,121
mountain and it takes too long and

6870
05:31:30,121 --> 05:31:31,121
quite frankly, we don't use it and we

6871
05:31:31,121 --> 05:31:34,121
use the hood of a patrol vehicle.

6872
05:31:34,121 --> 05:31:35,121
>> any other questions?

6873
05:31:35,121 --> 05:31:36,121
anyone from the public?

6874
05:31:36,121 --> 05:31:37,121
pleasure of the board?

6875
05:31:37,121 --> 05:31:38,121
>> move approval.

6876
05:31:38,121 --> 05:31:39,121
>> second.

6877
05:31:39,121 --> 05:31:40,121
>> fantastic, thank you so much.

6878
05:31:40,121 --> 05:31:43,121
>> moved and seconded to approve,

6879
05:31:45,121 --> 05:31:47,121
it requires a budget revision, so we

6880
05:31:47,121 --> 05:31:49,121
need a roll-call vote, please.

6881
05:31:49,121 --> 05:31:52,121
>> and which one made the motion?

6882
05:31:52,121 --> 05:31:53,121
>> I'm sorry -- I apologize.

6883
05:31:53,121 --> 05:31:54,121
>> okay.

6884
05:31:54,121 --> 05:31:55,121
>> holmes?

6885
05:31:55,121 --> 05:31:56,121
>> duran?

6886
05:31:56,121 --> 05:31:57,121
>> yes.

6887
05:31:57,121 --> 05:31:58,121
>> yes.

6888
05:31:58,121 --> 05:31:59,121
>> uhler?

6889
05:31:59,121 --> 05:32:00,121
>> aye.

6890
05:32:00,121 --> 05:32:02,121
>> montgomery?

6891
05:32:02,121 --> 05:32:03,121
>> yes.

6892
05:32:03,121 --> 05:32:05,121
>> weygandt?

6893
05:32:05,121 --> 05:32:06,121
>> yes.

6894
05:32:06,121 --> 05:32:08,121
>> with that our meeting is

6895
05:32:08,121 --> 05:32:09,121
adjourned.

6896
05:32:09,121 --> 05:32:11,121
[ gavel ]