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>> what was the other item?
>> 15g and h.
>> okay.
>> and then 20c.
>> is there anyone else who would like to
have a item pulled from consent and please
come forward and make your request,
please.
>> I like to have 15a pulled-removed,
please. Thank you.
>> anyone else? Or-
>> I move approval of whatever is
remaining.
[laughter]
>> I second.
>> probably should list those but I'm not
going. Is there a second? Motion
gustafson, second holmes for the few
remaining items on consent. Roll call,
please.
[roll call]
>> so we will-have to help me through
this.
>> [inaudible comments]
>> item 11 and all of those, correct?
>> I can speak to this. So, annually
contractual agreements between each of
your individual district aids for each of
the supervisorial districts come before
your board towards the end of the year.
each of these contracts are general in
nature for each of your individual
district directors. Happy to answer any
questions that might come about as a
result of that but these are the annual
contracts.
>> thanks todd. Are there any questions
by board members? Any questions or
comments from the public?
>> michael. Go ahead and give your
comments.
>> okay. Yes, sure. So, I just noticed
the pay varied a little bit. It seemed
the average pay was $44.30 per hour plus
benefits. It seems kind of high to me. I
did a search on glass door on like a admin
assistant and that was 44k per year and
this is base salary looks more around $92
thousand if I calculated correctly, plus
benefits. I guess-I'm always looking for
lower taxes I guess and I was wondering
like why is the pay so high? That's all.
>> anyone else from the public wish to
address this item? Seeing none, what is
the pleasure of the beard?
>> I think it would be good to clarify or
answer the question because these are
at-will employees so they are not like the
rest of our employees that have the
opportunity of being in the employee union
and their jobs are at will. The other
thing is, they are not -even though it
says [inaudible comments] they are not
administrative assistant. The do the bulk
of our work, they help us analyze the
board packets, they help address
constituent issues. They are basically
our right hand person because in addition
to our board meetings we have a multitude
of issues to address and other committee
assignments so this is really a higher
level position. I certainly understand
your question michael and appreciate it,
but actually some of these folks are close
to making more then the supervisors.
>> some of them are making more then the
board of supervisors and I can do 5 or 6
hours on that, but I'm not going to
because I'm in a good mood today so far.
>> you want to add anything else todd?
>> I will say when we do these pay scales
h r actually does analysis and looks at
comparable positions and again I think as
you alluded to, a lot of diversity and
variety and honesty the skill sets are
different then maybe what we have been
looking for in a normal administrative
position in the county and so, they are
utilized in various fashions the
complexity of job duties [inaudible
comments] we do look at job complexity and
classifications when we look at
compensation for these positions.
>> chip.
>> additionally, particularly during the
last two years, the administrative aids or
district directors spend inordinate amount
of time going through all the e-mail we
received, returning calls, explaining what
the county's position is on issues and
putting them in touch with departments
that they need referrals from or help with
like building department or planning
department or health and human service.
they are able to connect these folks with
the people that can help them with what
their issue is. I don't know about the
rest of my colleagues, but I spend about
45 minutes every morning going over my
e-mails and many times it is most of the
time it is deleting and if there is a
issue that needs to be addressed right
away I make sure my district director
knows about it. Right now we are in this
board meeting and she can respond to the
issue in question so they dedicate a lot
of time throughout their job work day but
also many times after work.
>> bonnie, your light is still on.
suzanne.
>> yes, good morning everyone. I also
wanted to add in there that our district
directors are-they are way more then just
an assistant. They doa lot of things for
us. They represent us. They deal with
our constituents first hand. They call,
they return calls. In fact they accompany
us everywhere. I have gone on many
walking tours in my district. My district
director goes with me everywhere. They
are responsible for our mac meetings for
the mac board members, the mac agendas.
they are responsible for articles our news
letters online, and they also work-we work
way more then 40 hours a week. They
accompany us everywhere, nights, evenings,
weekends, so they kind of give up their
family life just like we do. I just
wanted to let you know that that we-they
carry a big load. In fact what you see up
here is each of us and we have a district
director, that is our entire staff. I
think we all do pretty good job. Anyway,
they work very hard for us. Thanks.
>> cindy.
>> I just can't go without saying
something since everybody-I agree with
everything that everyone else has said.
our district aids and district directors
are essential to getting back to
constituents, and are solving problems
with our county staff knowing who to know
to, who to ask the questions, so they are
invaluable, they have great abilities and
also to speak on our behalf at times when
we cant be everywhere everyone wants us so
I guess it is our morning to thank our
incredible staff that work for us and all
the work they do.
>> I'll just add one short thing which is
my view in placer county is that I always
wanted to try to attract the best and
brightest. Pretty simple. You try to
figure what that market cost is like any
other job and we have a h r department who
does that for us and I think the rest is
logically just follows from that. So, is
there anyone from the public who would
like to address this issue?
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give
your comments. Vinny, can you unmute your
mic and give your comments? Sheryl, go
ahead and unmute your mic and give your
comments.
>> hi, good morning, sheryl [inaudible
comments] granite bay. I had a question
about-there seemed to be a it related item
under one of the district I believe it was
district 1 position. It seems to be not
in the correct place. I believe that it
has a budget and that would have been an
it budgeting item. Not sure why district
1 has a greater need for website and it
related expenses so if someone can answer
that I would appreciate it.
>> [inaudible comments]
>> I actually don't see that. We'll have
somebody take a look at that and see if
they can-none of us can see any
difference. Anyone else? Okay. I'll
bring it back to the board and if somebody
would make a motion-
>> move a-
>> specifically item 11a through g then
we'll be compliant.
>> as corrected, mr. Chair.
>> thank you. Motion gustafson, second
holmes, all in favor say aye. Opposed?
motion carries. And now we'll go to 15a.
I'm not familiar with this item. Could
you-
>> [inaudible comments]
>> my understanding is we were up here to
respond to questions but as the board
member and viewing public are aware, this
is culmination of the year long
redistricting effort both with follow on
to the november 30 and december 7 board
discussion at which we had hours of public
input and testimony that culminated with
the action to approve redistricting hybrid
map alternative 2.0 option 1.
>> clayton you do this bert then me.
>> I also note the request is to adopt
resolution approving that alternative
hybrid 2.0 option 1 and there are findings
contained in the resolution and the second
action item is to adopt the ordinance
introduced by your board and oral reading
was waved at the last meeting.
>> and therefore required a second reading
the first of which occurred a week ago
last tuesday?
>> correct.
>> thanks. Anyone from the public wish to
address this item?
>> thank you chair and supervisors. Funny
I get nervous talking to you but can pitch
in front of 5 thousand people. Again, my
name a anthony [inaudible comments]
resident of placer conte since [inaudible
comments] 4 years ago I bought [inaudible
comments] and farming it ever since. I
wanted to pull this map because I believe
this map was not truly wanted by all of
you and pushed by a small group of people
that did not truly represent the majority
of 400 thousand residents. Shows
segregation between cities and rural
communities especially district 3. As
resident of rockland and farmer in penryn
this gives close connection to the
ag community and [inaudible comments]
along are resident in rockland. I feel
this is happening because days after the
map was voted on by all you pleny with
reservation I had many resident of the
ag community approach me public places
like the post office or stopping by
[inaudible comments] to say thank you for
standing up for us. We feel like we were
separated in the loomis basis for gain of
rockland city council. A few who spoke in
from rockland do not represent all
district 3 but seem to have the loudest
voice. I have spoken to many resident
some knowing about redistricting and many
who had no idea. But when I asked would
you rather have one supervisor or two the
answer I heard the most is it it not
better to have two sets of eyes looking
out then one? I noticed those who pushed
to have rockland as a whole by themselves
do not live in district 3. Now with this
map it places those who spoke the loudest
in district 3. It seems this is a
political move by the city council to have
all of their homes in district 3 giving
the opportunity to run for supervisor in
next election for district 3. Looking
like it was the best interest of them and
not the people of district 3. But the
only way to prove this is to see in the
future if these council members run for
this position. Now this map continues to
go forward this takes jim holmes out of
his district. That being said, if he is
no longer able to run I announce today I
will run for his position. Thank you.
>> thank you. Anyone else from the
public?
>> good morning chairman weygandt.
supervisors. Karen and todd. I didn't
have prepared remarks because I was hoping
this was going to pass on through but that
isn't happening. I want to tell how
grateful I am the decision you made last
time. You were listening to the public.
now, is the map perfect? None of them
were, but what we were trying to do and
think all of you were trying to do as well
as the staff is at the end of the process
we had as few unhappy as we can get and
think we did with the public map put
together. I appreciate-anthony's
comments. I understand that placer county
is changing. The dynamics are changes,
particularly in the western part of the
county. Agricultural is getting small,
but I'm thankful for the pccp you passed
earlier that is going to protect a lot of
that agricultural ground in the western
part of the county so I think that going
forward agricultural will always have a
pretty good place at the table here in
placer county. I can speak as one who
grew up in agricultural in placer county.
I'm nearly a 70 year resident of placer
county and I'm honored to be here. I'm
honored to be fighting for what is right
for this county and so again I am very
grateful for your decision and thank you
for what you have done and what you
continue to do for the residents of placer
county.
>> thank you. Anyone else from the public
like to address this item? With that ill
bring it back to the board.
>> I'll certainly second that unless
there's any other conversation but happy
to second the item.
>> motion jones, second gore. Cindy has
her light on.
>> thanks mr. Chair. I want to say to
both gentlemen who spoke to us today, your
service to placer county residents is
greatly appreciated. There was no
perspective solution here and as you know,
I was not supportive of our final action.
I stand unified with my board because I
think that is the right thing to do when
majority rules we come together to
represent the people of this county and
just want to assure you that while I may
agree or disagree with the map our job is
to representative of all the constituents
in the best way possible and know and said
at both of the previous meetings all our
board members do that with all their good
intentions and I-there was no perfect map
that didn't have some level of separating
communities or putting them together, and
I sitting in district 5 I can tell you, we
heard the least from my district because
we were all aware. The 5th district was
growing and going down the hill and I only
see that happening further in the future.
it's incumbent on all of us to make sure
we represent all the great interest of
this county because that is what makes it
such a great county. Thank you.
>> all those in favor say aye. Opposed?
motion carries. Thank you. We'll now
take up I think item 15c.
>> good morning chair weygandt members of
the board. Vanessa ceo office. This is
my first item pulled so I prepared a brief
overview of your item and then we have
department representation here to answer
any questions you have. Background on the
item the item is a resolution to accept
and make findings per government code 66
thousand on our annual development impact
fee report. So, ceo takes this
consolidated item annually in december on
behalf of our department impact fee
programs as well as the programs we manage
here in the ceo office. Something to note
is that this does not increase any of our
impact fees, this is just reporting and
those increases come as separate items
from this report. Per government code 66
thousand the annual report must contained
specified information that includes the
type and fee amount, the beginning and
ending balance, fees collected, interest
earned, improvements funded as well as
anticipated start date of construction.
our impact fee program is being reported
that meet the definition per government
code 66 thousand are the followings: our
capital facilities impact fee, fire
facility impact fee, parks and
recreational facilities impact fee, county
wide traffic fee program, city county
traffic fee program, riolo vineyard
specific plan fee program, placer vineyard
specific plan, placer conservation program
[inaudible comments] affordable housing
fee and employee accommodation fee
program. That concludes the background.
we have department representatives on
zoom, here in person and happy to answer
questions you have.
>> thanks vanessa. First time you get
consent item pulled and this is my last
meeting at the board of supervisors.
>> I love it. I feel very special.
>> both happy. Any board members-suzanne.
>> yes. Good morning vanessa. Thank you
for coming. I had some concerns not my
concerns but constituents concerns and
they were wondering what is the difference
between the impact fees and tree
mitigation fees? Ej.
>> going to bring up my subject matter
expert.
>> that was way too easy. Ej [inaudible
comments] planning service division.
placer county conversation plan is adopted
fee program. We also have the oak
woodland ordinance, which was previously
our tree preservation ordinance and upon
adoption of the placer county conservation
plan that moved to chapter 19 of county
code. So we have a oak woodland ordinance
that applies to tree permits discretionary
permits outside the pccp area, but it is
not a adopted fee program. It provides
for on-site tree replanting, market rate
mitigation. We are going to update that
ordinance hopefully next year, probably
take the better part of next year. There
will be a robust outreach component as
part of that so that will obviously go to
the mac, planning commission, board of
supervisors, so hopefully that answers
your question.
>> that does. That helps a lot. Could
you just give a little more information,
what is a impact fee? I know this is all
dictated by government code 66,000.
>> I'm not sure I'm the best person to
answer that. Development impact fee for
transit, transportation, infrastructure
associated associated with development
projects. Capital facilities. Park and
recreation facilities.
>> so that means the development whatever
we are developing is the impact that is
going to have on these various things?
>> and guaranteeing the county will get
comp compensated for those facilities.
>> how and when are they updated? Are
they updated annually?
>> they are updated annually. Each
program we adopted has some sort of
coordinating cci or cpi so that-so for the
capital facilities impact fee I brought
that the end of september and goes into
effect 60 days after adoption so those are
brought separately. Some of the programs
we also take a consolidated item around
april. This is a fire facility fee and
specific plan fee programs. It just are
depends on how the ordinance is written on
when those come back annually but we also
do another consolidated item for those.
>> okay. And are then this talks about
the fees that the actual fees that are
collected and then how they are spent and
handled. Is that all for the public to
review and look at?
>> absolutely. So, we have the report as
an attachment to this which also includes
the reporting of fees, the items I listed
that have to be included per government
code but also on file we have the fee
program information, so that is the actual
fee program that we brought for adoption
that we maintain.
>> okay.
>> our department maintains.
>> great. Thank you so much.
>> absolutely. Thank you.
>> anyone from the public wish to comment
on this item?
>> sheryl, please unmute your mic and give
your comments.
>> thank you very much. Thank you suzanne
jones for bringing this up. We actually
brought this up for many years in district
4. I am not sure I agree with the
assessment of the fees. The pccp not only
does it not cover in land mass other areas
so the fact that you are collecting
mitigation fees for pools and tree and oak
woodlands and only doing it within a
certain area of land it is still the same
thing. Also, projects approved prior to
2020 when the pccp was approved are not
covered. Yearly there is a cadence where
I believe it was last week the developer
fees were increased. I didn't see the
tree mitigation fees increased. Housing
fees are increased. I see no reporting.
I would suggest this report is incomplete.
it does not cover tree mitigation for
anything not in the pccp and many of the
development agreements that have been
reached prior to 2020. Every time a
development goes in, there was a nexus
study that was done that clearly shows
there was an appeal with rancho [inaudible
comments] with 4 thousand oak trees that
should have been covered by increased
fees. Those fees have not been increased
I believe for years and years and years.
well beyond what steve pedretti was
charged with managing so I think it is a
incomplete report. I think it should have
a line item just like pccp. There should
be a tree ordinance and there also was-the
nexus study shows those fees are
insufficient so hope you will consider
actually looking at those fees not a year
from now. Every time trees are taken out
it is actually encouraging trees to be
taken out. I also like to point out that
at the legal of women voters when cindy
gustafson and suzanne was there and
supervisor uhler was there there was a
system that kept track of all these tree
mitigation fees, we asked for this
multiple times. We don't know where the
tree mitigation fees are going and why
they are so low so hope you will please
address this as incomplete item and
something that needs to be taken care of
because it is state law that this is
managed yearly and I believe that you are
breaking the state law by not providing
those fees. Thank you.
>> county counsel.
>> there seems to be some confusion here
and hopefully I don't make it more
confusing. But there is a difference
between a impact development impact fee,
which is governed by government code 6600,
and those impact fees are developed and
adopted by this board after public
hearings in which a nexus study must be
prepared and it must be established that
the fee relates to the impact. That is
why they are called development impact
fees.
[streaming cut out]
you will often see in eir or deg dec
payment of a impact fee will in fact
mitigate a particular impact. We see that
quite a bit for transportation, however,
you can't confuse that with mitigation.
in some instances we do have fees for
mitigation and one of them is ej mentioned
is the oak tree or pardon me, the tree
ordinance. That's a mitigation fee, it is
not a development impact fee, so I
respectfully disagree with mrs. [inaudible
comments] that there is anything that is
incomplete about this particular study.
the study took everyone of the development
impact fees this county implemented and
reporting as required under the government
code.
>> thanks karen. Going to add clarity,
there is a huge amount of
miscommunication, but the tree ordinance
and mitigation that started in placer
county-got to back 20, 25 years as I
recall, the pccp of course is a completely
different animal and we adopted it about a
year ago, and it essentially shifts
federal and state authority for green
field impacts on protected environmental
properties from the federal state
government down to the local level. A
part of our program includes an in lieu
fee so somebody going through that
application process will have the
flexibility to provide mitigation that is
required or they can pay a fee or they can
do a combination of these things so it is
unique in the country. Has to be done in
placer county and those fees are reviewed
annually in their looked at in 5 year
windows and that is a part of the contract
we have with the state and federal
agencies in that regard. I think that is
really important for the public to
understand generally. Suzanne, do you
have something?
>> make a motion for approval.
>> okay.
>> second.
>> motion and second. All in favor say
aye. Opposed? Motion carries. And now
15e.
>> 15e chairman is just being moved off
the agenda to a future meeting date.
>> that's right. 15e is being-going to be
put back on future agenda under consent
and so that takes us to 18a I think.
>> no, we have 15g and h both requested to
be pulled by michael.
>> 15g, thanks megan.
>> of course.
>> good morning members of the board.
stephanie holloway with your tahoe ceo
office to talk to you about the two items
that were pulled from consent. So, both
of these items are resolution for renaming
of [inaudible comments] in the olympic
valley area so squaw valley municipal
advisory committee and design review
committee. We have been working with the
washoe tribe in the area and private and
federal entities to rename assets that
contain the word squaw. I will mention
just a track record here, the olympic
valley public service district so the
squaw valley public service district as
previously named did rename their
organization back in august of 2020 as
well as the ski resort in this area now
named palisades tahoe has adopted the
olympic valley base area as their name, so
this is just two committees of your board
we like you to consider. I will mention
we are working with the washoe tribe as
well as the community on a number of
additional assets. Three public roads in
the area as well as the public park
considering renaming of those assets as
well and those will be hopefully coming
before your board early next year. Happy
to answer any questions.
>> thanks stephanie. Anyone from the
public?
>> [inaudible comments]
>> he did.
>> [inaudible comments]
>> michael, did you have any comments you
wanted to give on these?
>> no, I think I understand.
>> okay.
>> [inaudible comments]
>> motion gustafson, second gore. All in
favor aye. Opposed? Motion carries. If
my notes are correct that takes to 18a.
>> can we clarify on the prior motion it
was for both items 15g and 15h?
>> yes, thanks megan. Yeah. So, 18a,
placer housing authority.
>> chairman, because it is removed off
consent the board needs to adjourn as the
board of supervisors and convene as the
placer county housing authority.
>> thank you. So, the board adjourns as
placer county board of supervisors and
reconvenes as the housing authority and is
someone here to present that or on zoom or
somewhere?
>> [inaudible comments]
>> thanks.
>> good morning.
>> greg dicer, placer county deputy
director of health and human services and
housing authority executive director. I
am here for your board today to request
that the board adopt resolution approving
the temporary policy supplement for
emergency housing vouchers to accept and
distribute the vouchers and sign related
documentation and submit to the u.s.
department of housing and urban
development, hud, and accepting
distribution of 9 family unification
program vouchers and 26 emergency housing
vouchers, ehv. The background on the
item, on april 27 earlier this year the
placer county housing authority accepted
the updated placer county housing
authority annual administrative plan
update and signed civil rights
certification of compliance with the
housing authority plans and related
regulations and submitted all documents to
hud. In july of this year a temporary
policy supplement was released which made
available additional vouchers available
under the placer county housing
authority's plan adopted earlier in april
and hud also in july of this year awarded
the housing authority 9 family unification
vouchers to serve parents with children to
child welfare and former foster youth.
the placer county seeks [inaudible
comments] to distribute grant vouchers
under this program. The housing authority
is partnering with the children system of
care to distribute these vouchers. All is
no fiscal impact in the matter because the
vouchers are already available from hud
and hud provides funding for
administration of the program. And I'll
be happy to answer any questions.
>> thank you. Suzanne.
>> yes, good morning. Thank you for that
report. I wanted a little bit of
clarification for my constituents on the
housing vouchers. This is not related to
any of our covid programs in the past, is
it?
>> no. You might be referencing the
emergency rental assistance. These two
programs are--the vouchers existed before
and before covid came into being. The
emergency housing vouchers are for
specific populations, but they are not
specifically related to covid.
>> so, how does the program work then?
>> so, the fup vouchers they serve
families that are in reunification through
child welfare and or that might be at risk
of having children removed due to housing
instability. And they work just like our
normal housing choice vouchers accept for
they are specific to that population, so
the household receives a voucher if they
are determined to be eligible and able to
go out into the community and rent an
apartment or home much like any of us
would and we supplement their rent through
the voucher. It also serves former foster
youth, so former foster youth under the
age of 25 that are determined eligible
essentially can do the same thing, take
the voucher to any landlord that rents out
a unit and take-and move into the unit
with having that supplemented. The
emergency housing voucher are specific to
populations such as those escaping
domestic violence and are trafficking and
that are at risk of homelessness or are
homeless, and those vouchers we work
through the-a number of our community
partners and through the continuum of care
to receive referrals, both programs come
with some supportive services and case
management.
>> okay, so that means most of these
people eligible that already are working
with the system here in placer county?
>> correct.
>> if there are people out there who would
qualify who don't know about the program
is it something where they can contact the
county? Maybe adult system of care or
something like that sph
>> they are welcome to contact us in
essence. The referrals for the emergency
housing vouchers go through 211, so the
place for anyone to start would be 211.
>> okay. Great.
>> with regard to the fup voucher more
specific because a family has to be
working with child welfare or former
foster youth would have to be verified as
being a former foster youth through
children system of care.
>> thank you for the information. Very
helpful.
>> anyone from the public wish to address
this item?
>> stephen, go ahead and unmute and give
your comments.
>> good morning this is stephen pres
caught from kings beach. Just curious how
much is in that program for housing
vouchers of placer county and what is the
average amount of the voucher per person?
>> are you asking how many vouchers? We
have 26 of the emergency housing vouchers
and 10 of the-sorry, 9 of the fup
vouchers. I am sorry I don't know
off-hand the average amount used per
voucher, but those are the number of
vouchers that we have.
>> so, that is only for 35 families?
>> correct.
>> okay. Okay. What's the average amount
per voucher that they get to pay
landlords?
>> again, I don't have the average amount.
I can see if I can find that but generally
speaking the amount that is paid towards
landlords first and foremost the rents are
set through hud so in other words the
maximum that can be paid is set through
hud but the rents or amount of vouchers is
specific to that family income, so if a
family has no income what so ever, the
voucher will supplement all most all of
it. If the family has significant income
they might not be eligible to it, but if
they are somewhere between, the supplement
will reflect that.
>> okay, sounds good. Thank you.
>> welcome.
>> anyone else? What is the pleasure of
the board?
>> [inaudible comments]
>> motion jones, second holmes, all in
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
I think last from consent-
>> we have to reconvene as the board.
>> thank you. Need to have good staff for
people like me. We are adjourning as the
placer housing authority and reconvening
as the placer county board of supervisor
and think taking up consent item 20c.
>> good morning supervisor. Brett wood
the purchasing manager here for item 20c
which is several action items. First to
approve increase to existing contract with
mobile med work health solutions san jose
california for covid-19 testing for county
staff through the end of this fiscal year
in the amount of-through the end of the
calendar year, in amount of $270 thousand
for new total of $300 thousands. Asking
for the board to approve the renewal of
the contract and maximum annual amount of
$375 thousand. As over the past year
there have been multiple changes from cal
osha with respect to county staff and
testing requirements there of. Human
resources has been tasked with the
responsibility to implement those and
manage those processes. During this year
with those new instructions human
resources went out and solicited quotes
from 3 different firms to determine who
could provide the testing services for the
county employees required. At the
conclusion of that we awarded two
different contracts for $30 thousand each
to mobile med health solutions of san jose
as well as collection plus of sacramento
california. Unfortunately the contract
with mobile med has been prematurely
exhausted due to changes in cal osha
requirements resulting in a need to come
here to your board to ask for additional
funding. With that, happy to answer any
questions your board may have.
>> thanks brett. Any questions of board
members? Seeing none, anyone from the
public?
>> michael, go ahead and unmute your mic
and give your comments.
>> thank you. So, I am very much against
further testing. The covid testing is so
fraudulent. Every time they test that
counts as a new case and they are testing
for the corona virus not covid-19. There
is a cycle threshold that can be adjusted
to make the test more sensitive and these
tests are being used to institute these
mask mandates for example and are to put
further restrictions on the people. The
person that created the pcr test carrie
mullis said himself the test was never
designed as diagnostic tool, and there's a
dr., dr. Peter mccullough, I would really
recommend you look him up because he talks
about the pc r test and how fraudulently
it is being used. You might have to
search for him on duck duck go because
google is scrubbing anything that is
negative against the vaccine or against
the testing for covid protocols in
general. One other thing is, the covid
cannot be spread asystematically and many
doctors talked about that including peter
mccullough. So, I'm against spending more
money to put more restrictions on the
people. Thank you.
>> anyone else on zoom, megan?
>> we have one more on zoom.
>> one more.
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give
your comments.
>> hi there. I would-my name is
jacqueline and I would like to ditto
michael's comments as far as no more money
should be spent on testing or vaccines in
our county. It is all fraudulent and
honesty all evil and we should not be
spending taxpayer dollars on more
fraudulent testing to increase case
numbers and that is all I have to say.
>> tina, go ahead and unmute your mic and
give your comments.
>> hi. My name is tina. I want to
reiterate what was said. It is waste to
continue with testing, especially the-if
we are following science why hasn't anyone
showed what the science is? Here in
california the science supposedly tells us
that we have to mask no matter what but in
new york you only have to mask if you are
not vaccinated and are in florida they
don't mask at all so which science are we
following? Please stop wasting the
taxpayer money.
>> no further on zoom.
>> brett-behind-
>> hi. My name is jennifer and I think-I
like some information on just two aspects
of this. Number one, the pc r test is
like no longer valid at the end of this
year so what test are you going to be
using to run these mobile clinics? And if
you are going to continue using the pc r
test what cycle per threshold are you
using because I believe it is anything
over 26 is basically able to give a false
positive. I are am not sure which staff
is included in this for testing, but I
think if you look at what's happened in
the u k they test 3 times as much as we do
on a smaller population and their cases
keep going up and up and up, and the
patterns that are showing and coming
across are the vaccinated people are the
ones now with this new variant like 80
percent that are becoming positive are
vaccinated and so I think if we really
want to do this heard immunity thing that
keeps the number keeps getting raised
higher and higher and higher and it
doesn't really make too much sense to me
personally, I don't-I think people are
just going to be getting sick if they have
the vaccines the vaccines dont protect.
that was really what the vaccines are just
to reduce symptoms, right? So, if you are
vaccinated you will get it. You will have
your symptoms reduced if that's what it
does, and if you had it you are not going
to keep getting it, so I'm not really sure
what the urgency is to do all this testing
all the time, because I do think it is
bringing up a false positive and I think
we are starting to see too we are having
more positive cases in areas where there
is more vaccinations, so if you wouldn't
mind just explaining how will the pc r
test is utilized in these testings that
you are mobily going around, what
threshold because I don't know why we
never ever really gotten that information
publicly. Our town hall was canceled for
our covid discussion, and I can't
understand that. And then what test you
are going to be using and can you explain
in detail why and how it actually shows a
test is positive and not a false positive,
because at the end of the year the pc r
tests are no longer valid. Thank you.
>> thank you. Why don't you go ahead.
>> with respect to those questions I don't
have that information at this time. These
est tests are dictated or testing
requirements are dictated from cal osha.
we work with our providers to determine
that they can meet those requirements.
>> thanks, brett. That is helpful.
>> john, please unmute your mic and give
your comments.
>> alright. Thank you very much. John
falk speaking as a individual at this
time. As someone who would disagree with
the lion share of the people that spoke on
this issue, someone who is severely immuno
compromised and are also understand
medicine by having been a medic over 27
years, I can tell you that one, yes there
are break-through virus occurrences now
but it is because the virus shifts and
mutates. First, there is viral drift then
viral shift have the shift creates a new
strain which may be less protective when
you had the former vaccine. That does not
mean the vaccine is ineffective and the
vaccine does not lower your chance of
being hospitalized or dying. What it does
mean is vaccination is a key important
first step towards getting back to normal
and getting where the nob nab needs to be
and it is absolutely critical people
disregard the disinformation that is out
there. Any time you have to go through a
web search and then by-pass the scrubbers
that get through the disinformation I
think that you already told yourself
something. I would say go to the cdc, go
to the nih, go to dr. Fauci and find out
what the real truth is and you'll find
just like with the flu it changes from
year to year. It is deadly from year to
year, especially among those immuno
compromised or elderly so please do not
out of hand just dismiss this as a
non-issue or asystematic people can't
transmit. Scientifically untrue. The
first 5 days you are infected even if
asymptomatic you are most susceptible to
[inaudible comments] I would just say
masks are important, vaccines are
important, testing is important. Thank
you.
>> chairman and see no further public
comment.
>> suzanne.
>> my question would be, this program
here, this is only for testing of county
employees?
>> yes, ma'am;
>> that is what is mandated to us by the
state?
>> yes, ma'am.
>> okay.
>> what is the pleasure of the board.
motion gustafson, second holmes. All in
favor aye. So, if my notes are correct
that completes our consent agenda. Now is
the time for public comment. This is time
when anyone from the public can address
the board on something that is not on the
agenda. Keeping in mind we can take no
action. Anyone who would like to address
us under public comment? Jennifer, why
don't you start. We have somebody on zoom
I'm assuming? Okay. Welcome to proceed.
>> jennifer. I'm back. So, I saw that
california is doing the statewide mask
requirements and I was wondering if you
can speak how that is going to impact
placer county. I am not really sure why
we are being forced to wear masks. There
is high level of bad air we are breathing
all day to make our brains not work and I
think we are seeing that on a large scale
in general. There is bacteria harbored on
them. They are not being worn properly.
everything escapes out the sides and the
tops, people are wearing them below their
noses, so I really like to know why we are
doing it, and if we are going to be doing
it in placer county if next meeting we are
here we all have to have our masks on
sound like and I really just like to
understand a little bit more how that is
going to effect us. If we are going to
have to start wearing masks and continue
to comply with something that to me
doesn't make sense and a lot of other
people doesn't make sense, I really think
we should really think about
constitutionalizing our sheriff. Placer
county can lead the way. People are not
dropping dead in florida, people are not
dropping dead in other states that are not
wearing masks and I think we have to stop
living in fear because fear is driving our
economy into the ground as well as a lot
of other things. It is causing a lot of
divide and it's creating children with
lower motor skills, less speech, less comp
tense because they can't go to school,
they are having higher suicide rates. All
kinds of stuff, and I know masks are just
like a symptom of this, but I really think
we need to consider what these masks are,
because to me they are a silencer.
anything that is not going with what is
said by the cdc or nih, which continually
changes. Diseases continually change. It
isn't going it go away. We have to accept
that and move forward. Just a change of
shift from my last 30 seconds. I would
also really like placer county to consider
5g placement as it is going up. We are a
huge agricultural area as we discussed
earlier through the redistricting, and
there is a lot of studies showing 4g
effects bees and other things like that
are pollinators, and I think that is
something to consider. There is no
long-term studies on 5g or 4g and it
destroys the cells in the body. Thank
you.
>> thank you, jennifer.
>> michael go ahead and unmute and give
your comments.
>> hi. Yes, I'm very much against mask
mandates and I will not comply with the
mask mandate. I'm curious to hear what
you as a board plan to do with this. You
know, there is other counties that have
pushed back against these mandates but I
haven't seen it from placer county. San
joaquin and el dorado have resolutions
against vaccine mandates. And then again
I want to-another thing I like to talk
about is the covid-19 dashboard for placer
county. To me it seems it is just
propaganda. 39.200 cases. Okay. So, and
then 56 average daily cases. Huh. Likely
37.723 likely recovered. 483 deaths. So,
what does that mean? Is that this month?
is that this year? Is that ever? And
then, it looks like the cases are going
down but yet now we have this mask mandate
for all of california. On the covid-19
dashboard could you put some information
on the vaccine like adverse reactions?
can we have listings how many people have
been adversely effected from the vaccine?
how many died from the vaccine? What
about just general we never followed this
before. What about general deaths,
automobile accidents, deaths from
automobile accidents, cancer, other
medical conditions. That might be
interesting to put on there. As it stands
it seems like it is just propaganda and
promoting fear. We really need you
supervisors to lead and stop promoting
fear and then I think that the main thing
I hear from you folks is that well, the
state mandates it and we don't have power
to do it. Then why are the other counties
doing it? Did they have more power then
you guys? I'm just curious to hear your
response. Thank you.
>> thank you.
>> I see no further comments.
>> okay. Next is the time for board and
the county executive reports and todd you
want to lead?
>> yeah. Couple things and then dr.
oldham is on the call to answer a couple
questions about most recently this
mandate. The first one I wanted to share
we are getting to the end of the year and
think it is really important we reflect on
just the important stuff our staff has
done. We have a lot of projects and will
be remiss not to say between public health
staff recollect public safety folks those
are directly impacted and helping address
just the challenge over the last 2 years.
I would be remise not to say thank you to
them. I think we also have a number of
projects from the corner facility online
in february, mercy housing project we are
just completing right now. Our housing
programs and all the diversity of trying
to get affordable housing for residents I
think is not to go unnoticed and I also
think homelessness and conversation around
regional discussion are important. So, I
just wanted to give a quick thank you to
our staff that have just worked tirelessly
over the last year. Also wanted to talk
about some highlights and going to try to
more as we get to the new year but we had
two challenge awards. Csac had a winter
conference and 433 entries from all the
counties, the 58 counties around the
state. Our county received two of those
awards. One a challenge award around
dispersement for emergency rental
assistance funding. You as a board
supported having our internal staff run
that program in partnership with the city
of roseville. We were able to distribute
over $8.1 million for rental assistance
which allow the residents to stay in their
homes. We had a merit award that was a
virtual format and I talked about this
individually I think collectively as a
organization there is silver lining we
have to look at and part of it is how we
utilize technology to provide a service to
our residents and this award was a virtual
format for cal works participants and
recipients to work in a virtual resource
huddle format and allowed those folks to
come in and are speak to us if they didn't
feel comfortable coming into provide those
services and think the success of that
program will probably take place and
continue long after we moved through the
pandemic work. Really good work in that
arena. The last thing I say, [inaudible
comments] she is a program manager in hhs.
she last week was recognized through the
community collaborative in tahoe truckee
as the partner of the year award. She's
just a outstanding employee. Partners
between nevada and placer county. Provide
service to our residents so she was
recognized and want to say thank you to
that for her. The last thing I served
this last year as chairman for the
[inaudible comments] regional manager
association. This is the county and the
city managers, we get together on a
quarterly basis talk about transportation,
green means go, housing, infrastructure
funding, I think it is always important to
work regionally on issues, we do that at
the county level and think it serves well
to be partners around the region as well.
I just wanted to say thanks for the
support for me serving in that capacity
the last year. Finally I will turn it to
rob oldham. Rob is here-we heard most
recently about the state mask mandate and
I thought it was important you to hear
directly from him what this means and
clarity about what's coming down from the
state here starting tomorrow. Rob, I'll
turn it over to you.
>> great thanks todd and thanks for giving
props to our hhs program with the csac
award and [inaudible comments]
congratulations everyone. So, good
morning chair weygandt and members of the
board. Rob oldham. Recent development
with statewide mask mandate discussed this
morning. Asked to provide a brief covid
update. As you recall, my last report to
your board on covid was really back when
our schools and hospitals and other
critical infrastructure were being
stretched very thin by the delta variant
surge. Since then our case rate and
hospitalizations have dropped
significantly, especially from their highs
back in august and september. They have
not yet returned to their pre-delta
variant lows and also sense then many more
people have been vaccinated or received
boosters and new promising therapeutics
have also been introduced that can
dramatically decrease severe illness,
hospitalization and death from covid, so
over all news on the covid front is
relatively good. But late last month we
began to hear about a new variant
beginning to spread in other countries and
just last week the variant started showing
up in california. While we haven't had a
case of the variant identified in placer
county yet, it has been found in the
sacramento area and reasonable to expect
we will find it here in placer very soon.
while we are still very early in our
process of learning about omicron. It is
very new in the world stage. What we know
is omicron has a large number of mutations
compared to other variants and those
appear to decrease the ability of ant
bodies in the flood which come from
vaccine or previous infection so can
decrease the ability of the ant bodies to
neutralize the virus and recently released
data seemed to suggest vaccines
effectiveness may be significant lower
against omicron, but vaccine boosters
still appear to be quite effective at
preventing illness, especially severe
illness. What will omicron mean? It is
too early to tell exactly. It is quite
possible that omicron will become the
dominant variant later this winter and
reasonable to expect we'll see a winter
surge both in covid cases but also in
other respiratory illness. We already
have seen recent surges in respiratory
illnesses and uptick in the last couple
weeks of covid cases and hospitalization,
since the thanksgiving holiday. Not at
the same rates that we saw this time last
year. In addition, we talked about the
statewide masking mandate that will go
effective tomorrow in addition to the
statewide indoor masking mandate yesterday
the state tightened up guidance for so
called mega events so events more then a
thousand indoor attendees or more then 10
thousand outdoor attendees and now are
requiring all attendees to show proof of
vaccination or a negative test within one
day for ant jen test and 2 days for pc r
test. Placer count y impact, we don't
have many venues that can hold over a
thousand people indoors in placer county
but certainly in other counties that will
have a significant impact. Yard the state
the issued a new travel advisory
recommending all travellers arriving in
california test for covid-19 within 3 to 5
days after arrival regardless of
vaccination status. Lots of people are
asking if we anticipate a return to
lock-downs or limits on business capacity
or operations like we did under the state
blue print for healthier economy. I think
it is notable it has been all most exactly
since month since the blue print retired
back in june so I would be very surprised
if we back to anything like those levels
of restrictions. I have been surprised
before and can be again but we are in
really good shape relative to where we
were last year at this time or back in
june. We now have over 60 percent of our
population in placer county fully
vaccinated about 90 pert of the seniors
are fully vaccinated and now with the
vaccine available to children and large
numbers of people getting boosters much
wider availability of testing and
effective therapeutics and high quality
masks we are in much better position then
we were earlier in the pandemic. With
that, happy to answer any questions you
may have and once again thanks and
appreciate todd's word on the staff. It
is a long haul both this year and with the
pandemic throughout the county and in hhs
and say thank you to the staff and great
work you have done. Thanks.
>> thanks rob and back to you for the
same-want to build on todd comments by
thanking all our staff regardless of how
good or bad the board's ideas are or
successes can never be achieved without
excellence in staff and committed and hard
work so great time of year to technology
we have many standards setting programs
and specifically rob again you guys have
done well at health and human services and
don't want to put pressure on you but come
to expect that now over the last 27 years
so next year just looking forward to
whatever fabulous achievements you have
out there. Health and human subs
recognized across the country and
particularly in the state of california
and it does not go unnoticed. With that
I'll open up for questions. Cindy.
>> I didn't have any questions, just had
reports to give,
>> any covid related or specific comments
for rob?
>> I do have to ask one question. I had a
couple of restaurant owners contact me
last night-the height of holiday season
for our restaurants who have been severely
impacted this last year. I know they have
to worry about state abc, but as far as
our own county staff, we got folks who
have to do the environmental health checks
at our restaurants, do you anticipate
those folks going out and closing down our
restaurants?
>> I really am not hearing about
enforcement even from the state so that is
a question we are getting a lot about-by
the way on restaurants there are a number
of exceptions on the statewide indoor
masking mandate and you can go to the
state website and see that but while
eating and drinking. A lot of the same
things I think people are accustom to but
as far as enforcement of those I'm not
really hearing a lot across the state
about that. Really the hope-people are
asking why now, why is this coming. The
state website speaks why the timing for
this. I mentioned the omicron variant and
up take in cases statewide. Masking
mandates are in the places that had them
already we have seen minimal enforcement
and the idea is they are try to change
perception of masking and social norms in
communities making masking more common,
but as far as--the influence of or the
enforcement I think that will be minimal.
also in addition we talked about one the
quality of masking being really important
and then masking relative to some of the
other interventions I think vaccinations
in particular probably being a more
effective strategy but combining
interventions has shown to be the most
impactful but there are probably other
intervention like vaccination that are
more effective then masking.
>> thank you, I appreciate that and know
folks are asking when or not the sheriff
will enforce and I haven't heard from the
sheriff but he hasn't enforced in the
past. I don't certainly cant see him
choosing to do that again and I want to
let residents know that. We want to be
concerned about people getting sick and
probably the best thing about this is that
it is taught people to stay home if they
are not feeling well, which is a really
good thing and I really want to encourage
people to do that. There are other things
of washing hands if you are sick just are
please stay away from all the rest of us.
thank you dr. Oldham.
>> thanks again rob. Cindy. This is the
time again for board members reports and
we heard from county exec so now going to
cindy for board member report.
>> I had a quick report tomorrow the tahoe
regional planning agency will be meeting
and later today we'll be talking about our
placer county transportation fees for
tahoe. Tomorrow the tahoe regional
planning agency will be voting on mobility
fee that is somewhat similar to vmt
reductions we have been talking about here
and what is important for the board to
know is our staff has worked tirelessly.
stephanie as well as katie jackson
[inaudible comments] to make sure these
two programs do not compound on each other
for a new development in the tahoe basin
which could have occurred. There is a lot
to still work out to make sure our
projects are done. Will collect that fee
and then make sure that our projects our
portion the regional transportation fund
are funded. I wanted to thank staff
publicly for all their efforts to make
sure that we safeguard our tahoe
businesses and residents on that to make
sure they are not paying double fees
within the basin. And then obviously
wanted to say great job on bringing us a
lot of snow. We need snow for a lot of
good reasons for most important it is
essential for our water resources. Headed
into the holidays we couldn't have asked
for a better economic boost for many ski
areas who hadn't been able to open or
barely opening. It is going to be a great
white christmas for the ski areas. And
then finally, today robert if I'm numbers
are right this is your 5th time concluding
your 5th time as chair of this board, and
I could couldn't let it go unnoticed
because of such a year you had. Between
everything you had to deal with,
continuing the legacy with covid but into
vaccination and vaccination requirements
and all the public testimony and then
redistricating of course. Few little hot
buttons along the way but you have done a
excellent job and I know that you can't
open this now, but on behalf of all the
board, we have a little something that
will ease the pain for the holidays.
[laughter]
can't open it here on the county grounds,
but hopefully you can enjoy that and just
wanted to thank you for your great
leadership. It has been a tough year,
probably the toughest you had as a chair,
at least that is what you said.
>> thank you. Depending how the meeting
goes today I might defy county rules and
regulations I might need to call the
sheriff. Thank you very much. I
appreciate it. Thank you.
(applause)
>> suzanne.
>> yes. I wanted to just mention that I'm
also rounding out my first year on the
board and it's been quite a experience. I
enjoyed it working with all of you and all
of my constituents and wanted to tell
everybody thanks especially to my
constituents for your continued support
and I appreciate everybody that reaches
out to me with concerns that we can
attempt to resolve here at this level and
so with that, thank you robert for-you
have been a great mentor for me for the
future even though your year was hard. It
was good for me.
>> can only get easier, right?
[laughter]
>> I just want to end by wishing everybody
a happy holiday, merry christmas if you
observe christmas and wish everyone the
best in the new year.
>> I'll finish by saying, cindy it is all
most certain you will be our new chair and
you will have some incredibly good support
megan and todd and county counsel office
and other executive staff and it makes all
the difference in the world so I just want
to publicly acknowledge that and express
my appreciation. Okay, with that and
seeing no other lights I'm going to take
the chair prerogative and bounce around.
we'll take up because of timing our 9:30
item and after that take the then 1035
item compared to the 915 item we should be
taking now. The next item is our placer
county 2022 legislative advocacy platform.
joel.
>> good morning chair members of the
board. Todd karen. County executive
office. I should be joined today on zoom
by rich gold and michael gullano of
holland and knight and paul yoder and
karen lang with syasl partners.
additionally, besides them giving a update
to the board today you have before you a
draft legislative platform which serves as
the basis for county advocacy efforts with
executive and legislative branches of
federal government to support sponsor and
oppose legislation address policy rules
laws regulations as well as defend county
local authority and resources. Placer
county with contractor advocates and
member associations have been successful
over the past few years advancing county
priorities and protecting the county
ability to have local control over our
governance and land use decisions. While
placer county or any county have not won
every battle placer county does continue
to mitigate some of the more problematic
provisions in various pieces of
legislation over the years. With the
board's work we continue to have a
more-take a more proactive approach in dc
and sacramento. 2021 saw record
investments on many county priorities from
dc and sacramento. Infrastructure funding
reach historic levels over the next 5
years competing for roads bridges water
sewer and electric vehicle infrastructure.
broadband received historic funding with
$6 billion from the state and $65 billion
from the federal government of which the
state should see $6 billion of the $65
billion. Staff continues to work hard to
make sure every resident and business that
wants to receive high-speed internet will
receive high-speed internet at reliable
and affordable cost. Wildfire risk
reduction continue to be top priority of
the board and county staff. Investment in
that front has-in the billions of dollars
range which michael and rich from holland
and knight will discuss in a minute to
really try to reduce fuel load in the
local forest. Going into 2022, which is
setting up to be a fairly unique year for
me working with this job on a state level
you have redistricting which is yet to be
settled. Today is the self imposed
deadline. The additional deadline is
later this month. You also have back in
2012 the voters approved term limit
initiative which you will see the effect
of the term limit as folks expire for the
seats in 2024. Many members are looking
for other jobs at this point. You have a
gubernatorial this fall, senate election,
various statewide offices and what is
setting up to be a pretty large ballot.
as of this point you have up to 4
initiatives just on legalizing sports
gambling in the state. So, with that I
will turn over to rich gold and michael
gullano to kick off the presentation and
following up with paul yoder and rich
[inaudible comments]
>> mr. Chair, I have a question. I want
to clarify. You said members expire. The
term expires?
>> the term limits-I should clarify-
>> the more seasons joel the more you pay
attention to the distinction.
[laughter]
>> if it please your board my name is rich
gold. I appreciate the opportunities to
speak with you all today along with my
colleague mike gullano. I wanted to start
out just by thanking you all for all the
good work you as the board did this year
advocating for the county federal
priorities. It was obviously a challenge
with limited capability to have personal
interaction with members of congress and
members of the executive branch but we got
a lot done and I think we are rounding the
corner and hoping that congress will be
back in business taking personal meetings
as well as the executive branch and first
quarter of 2022. I also just want to tip
my hat as well supervisor weygandt. We
worked together what seems over a hundred
years. He's been a great elected official
to work with and shown true leadership on
so many issues from water to
transportation and look forward to this
final lap here robert.
>> thanks rich.
>> sure. Just wanted to give a brief
overview here and we can go to the next
slide. With regard to where things stand.
obviously at the federal level we have a
very closely divided congress with the
senate tied 50/50, the house only a few
seats apart. That makes getting
legislation through the process very
difficult. On the other hand it also
produced bipartisan infrastructure bill
this summer which required the margins
required a very bipartisan effort for that
legislation. I think we had a very
productive year. We started out in
february moving the american rescue plan
through congress and providing lead
funding for covid and economically
impacted interests like restaurants and
other community facilities that had really
suffered economically during the shut down
from the pandemic. That legislation lead
us into discussion around the bipartisan
infrastructure bill which started in april
and we were successful passing that bill
into law in august, and had good
bipartisan support in both the senate and
house for that legislation. And while it
passed-while that bill passed through the
senate in august, it only finally passed
here in november through the house of
representatives and we will be talking
about the programs included in that bill
and in 2022 a lot of those programs will
be pumping money through the system for
everything as joel referenced from
transportation to water infrastructure and
broadband. We are working on the current
reconciliation bill entitled build back
better and that bill likely will go into
2022. We will not finish before christmas
as senators had hoped would be the case,
so we are likely going to take up that
bill again when we come back in january.
in addition in january we need to finish
up the fy22 federal appropriation bills
which also provide significant funding for
county priorities, and move forward then
into the new cycle for fy23. So, mike let
me kick it over to you for the next slide.
>> thanks rich. I'll do a lilt deeper
dive on topics that rich mentioned. So,
really the past year, year and a half have
been focused on covid response. At the
federal level. Next slide. So, to date
congress has enacted 5 major covid relief
packages to the tune of $5 trillion over
the next decade. The most well known of
those 5 are really the third, which is the
cares act, which was enacted in march of
2020 and then the american rescue plan act
arpa enacted in march of 21. So, one of
the flaws of the cares act even at $1.8
trillion was that at least from a local
government perspective, it didn't get
money directly to most counties and cities
across the country. It was well
intentioned but in the response to get the
money out the door quickly the governor
got most of those dollars to allocate to
the local governments and that took longer
then it should have. Coming into 21 one
of the goals for the next package, the
arpa plan was to insure that local
governments got that funding directly.
next slide. So, arpa was passed in march
of 21. It provided $360 billion directly
to local and state governments and the
good news one of the big victories from
earlier this year was that it provided
directed funding to local governments of
all sizes including placer county which
received $77 million from the local
government relief fund on top of the other
monies related to rental assistance and
money through hud and other departments.
so, that really was the response phase for
covid, which just ended over the summer of
21. Once those bills got done, congress
attempted to pivot to from recovery from
response to recovery, so that was when the
infrastructure package started to pick up
speed. Initially the president had hoped
to pass a package in the neighborhood of
$4 trillion, which even in dc is a lot of
money, so realizing that was not going to
be possible they decided to bifurcate the
package to create a traditional
infrastructure package and then a social
infrastructure package. Next slide. So,
on a parallel track, congress also as rich
noted proceeding with the annual
appropriations process and one new
development on that front, it was the
return of congressional earmarks. The
board will recall earmarks at the federal
level went away in fiscal year 10 so after
a 11 year hiatus, congress when the
democrat said won the house and senate
decided to bring back the earmark process
really on a trial basis for fy22, and we
are pleased to report the county has one
project pending in those fy22 bills, which
were not completed by october 1 when they
should have, but we are hopeful to get
these bills done before the end of
february, and there is $580 thousand
pending for a body worm camera program at
the sheriff office. Next slide. As rich
noted, the infrastructure bill enacted on
november 15. It's $1.2 trillion for
traditional infrastructure. We are
working with staff to identify the various
programs of interest to the county. Joel
noted that there is $3 billion included in
there for wildfire related activities.
also importantly new policy changes on the
wildfire front included including creating
a new categorical exclusion under neppa
for fuel reduction and fuel break
activities, which is welcome change. Not
a pant sia but a step in the right
direction. That was signed into law
november 15. We expect most of the
formula dollars from this $1.2 trillion
package to start to flow to the states
during the first quarter of 2022 for all
the traditional infrastructure funding
from roads and bridges and to safe
drinking water and stormwater projects.
the other part of that funding package is
the competitive programs which were
created. Those are going to take longer
to get out the door. The various agencies
and jurisdictions have to hire up and
write the notice of funding availability,
so on the competitive side we expect to
see over the summer of 22. Next slide.
>> so, the second piece to the
infrastructure package is social spending
which is called the build back better
program here in dc. 24 the house enacted
a package over $3 trillion. That wasn't
going to pass in the senate for ez reasons
you have probably seen in the press so the
senate is attempting to draft a more
modest size package to the tune of $1.7
trillion. Leader schumer and the senate
told his caucus he is hoping to have a
vote on the package before they leave for
christmas. That is unlikely but that is
their goal. And should that pass we will
get with your staff to make sure that they
are aware of what's in it and so woe can
compete for the social dollars in addition
to the traditional infrastructure dollars.
next slide. So, what's left to do over
the next couple weeks in dc. Rich
mentioned government funding. We are
operating under our second continuing
resolution to keep the federal government
open through february 18. Congress will
use these next 6 weeks to finish those
fy22 spending bills that include the
funding for the sheriff body worn camera
program. In addition, the second item
congress needs to raise the federal debt
limit which is the government ability to
barrow. According to the treasury
secretary we will be up against that limit
on december 15, which according to my
calendar is tomorrow, so the senate is
expected to pass a debt limit increase
this afternoon and the house will attempt
to pass that this evening. The third item
the social spending is again the build
back better plan that was mentioned on the
prior slide. The democrats want to get
that done before christmas. Unlikely it
is more likely to slide into the end of
this year or early next year, so stay
tuned on that. So, in terms of looking
forward to 2022, next slide--there is a
lot of federal money coming down the pike
and we have been working with staff to get
up to speed on the different programs.
so, really it is 3 legs of a federal
funding platform. That is the way we like
to think about it. There are competitive
federal grants the county will apply for
and has done very well historically
including earlier this year a $5 million
grant for the western placer county hcp.
those will come out in the spring time.
there is the annual congressional federal
appropriation process which will good
begin in february which is 12 month
process and then the-special funding
opportunities and in our case that is the
federal infrastructure package which is
already enacted and then the
reconciliation bill which may or may not
be enacted later this year. That is a
good way to organize our thoughts on that
and we already had a number of planning
meetings with your staff to walk through
the various opportunities for 2022 and
beyond. With that, thank you and happy to
take any questions.
>> thanks mike and rich. Good seeing you
guys again. Hope next time in person, but
are there any questions from mike and rich
federal advocacy at this time by my
colleagues? Cindy.
>> hi, thanks so much for the report and
all the efforts going into this. I was at
a luncheon on saturday in which members
the u.s. Forest service of the percentage
of the budget that changed to I believe 9
percent of firefighter to over 55 percent
of fire fighting and I want to again
emphasize I know you know this
representing us in the western states as
well that we need more money to stop fires
from starting and being able to fight them
with our fuel suppression, especially in
our national forest; so any efforts we can
do to continue to highlight this issue on
forest fuel reduction on federal lands
because we have the forest service, we
have the bureau of land management, bureau
of reclinations, around the auburn and
foothill area and up through the sierra
are our main partners and are there any
insights you have how we can get more
funding to the forest service for that
early fuel reduction work to avoid
spending 55 percent of their budget on
fire fighting?
>> mike you want to-
[laughter]
>> that is a great observation supervisor,
and those discussions are ongoing and have
been occurring over the past year. There
is a lot of good in this in the
infrastructure bill that money will be
flowing in the first quarter in terms of
dollars. In addition to policy change for
categorical exclusion for fuel break
activities which will speed up things on
federal lands. There is also policy
changes in there, such as historically
when the fire service hires firefighters
to fight wildfires they are considered
seasonal employees and that is just-that
is a challenge to find those folks at any
time but when we are dealing with covid
situation and labor shortages around the
country, the forest service really
struggled to find the right type of people
this past cycle, so what they have done is
created a new employee category at the
forest service to bring those folks on as
full-time employees so they have them in
reserve when these fires do occur across
the country. So, those are just a few
things I would note. Really placer county
speaks with a large voice on these issues
because of its success on the pccp. Your
county has a credibility here in town that
most counties do not, particularly on
resource issues, so we look forward to
continuing to work with you on that this
coming year.
>> thank you. I appreciate that. I know
that we are all anxious to see more
funding to take care of our forests a
quickly as possible and sometimes that can
see seen in infrastructure and it is also
a ongoing process we need for decades to
come.
>> great comments. No other questions
from the board so appreciate it, look
forward continuing to work together. It
has been great.
>> paul and karen you can take it away on
the state side.
>> good morning supervisors. Thank you for
having us this morning. Karen lang with
[inaudible comments] I'm going to recap
how the year went and hand it off to paul
for a good forecasting what we are looking
at.
>> [inaudible comments] very much
incorporated.
>> okay to keep going? I like to start
with the budget looks like. We are in the
enacted 21-22 budget going into
constructing our budget we are in now. It
actually took a about 4 budget cycles this
year. There were 4 separate main budget
bills passed and dozens and dozens and
dozens of trailer bills to support the
spending plan that evolved over time since
we didn't know what was going to happen
with the state budget. California general
fund relies very heavily on the wealthiest
californians personal income tax
withholdings and capital gains and if you
have been following the stock market and
sure you have, the stock market has done
wonderful during the pandemic and as a
result the revenue in california general
fund even in addition to what came from
the federal relief package was levels we
have never seen before particularly
capital gains revenues that were realized
in the state budget in the 10s of billions
of dollars. As a result of that there was
much more money to spend then I think we
probably all thought we would have to
spend in january. The enacted budget has
a $47 billion with a b surplus built into
the budget. We have $21 billion reserve.
I do want to point out about 75 percent of
the surplus in this budget are in now was
devoted to 1 time spending and that was a
result of the fract that as californians
budget might correct itself a bit if the
stock market corrects it is a lot easier
to not spend one time money then to take
down a new program that relies on ongoing
funding. 75 percent of the 1 time dollars
were spent on 1 time expenditures. We did
get $25 million in the rescue plan and
alabama california has [inaudible
comments] to spend the dollars on
specified allocations. We do have-I
wanted to point out a couple things
specifically that are of interest to the
county. There was about $3 billion for
job emergency and increased water
resiliency and think there will be more of
that in 22. $31 million goes to protect
fish and wildlife from the changing
conditions. There is also a special set
aside for a new type of way to deal with
bio mass and in the budget itself it is
$50 million the department of conservation
will allocate once they build the program
it will be allocated through, but when you
peal the union in what is called the
budget change proposal which is what the
state department of finance like a book
report why they want to spend this money,
placer county were identified by name as
locations for which the bio mass money
might be spent in. They want to find
different ways to use the energy that is
created out of bio mass. As you are
painfully aware it is very difficult to
interconnect to the grid for electricity
that would be generated from the bio mass
and they are looking for other ways to
create energy sources that don't
necessarily connect to the grid. One of
the things mentioned in the bcp is a bio
oil or hydrogen based fuel so we have been
following with the department of
conservation, their plan to allocate the
money, they have to set up the application
process but we are certainly working to
position placer in a competitive position
for the dollars and it is very clear the
state would like to see you get it. There
is also funding in what is called the
climate catalyst fund to deal with funding
projects that alleviate wildfire risk and
prevent wildfire again to supervisor
gustafson's point, there is also funding
to cal recycle to deal with the organic
waste infrastructure. For those that
follow along [inaudible comments] waste
management authority, there is clearly a
problem with organic diversion in the more
rural parts of the state because you don't
necessarily have a way to separate that
out and have it collected. There is
funding through cal recycle to assist with
that. In addition on wildfire piece, not
to jump around too much, we are talking
about budget just just in the last week
the board of forestry moved to put forward
a set of regulations that are the fire
safe regulations that came out of sb901
from a couple years ago. They were trying
to pursue it in calendar 21 but the
regulations were incredibly controversial
and so much opposition the board pulled it
back and recrafted them and they just put
them out. I want to commend r c r c, they
have been a great partner. The public
comment starts in january and only a 15
day public comment period. This has
enormous implication on your land use
anywhere where you interact with the wild
land urban interphase which you have a lot
of in placer county so believe your
planning staff is very well aware the
regulations are going to be going back out
for public comment. I feel it is really
incumbent on individual counties to raise
their concerns with the board as far as
the feasibility of some of the components
of the regulations. Certainly the
regulations are intended to enhance public
safety during a wildfire, but there are
some things that would be very challenging
I think for local governments to comply so
I wanted to make sure you are aware.
there is also a significant amount of
money in the existing budget for
transportation. There is $4.5 billion new
and discretionary that went to one time or
temporary transportation infrastructure.
certainly with the federal report you just
heard there is more money coming on the
federal side. I also wanted to note the
broadband piece as you told me a year ago
I get to tell you there was $7 billion in
the budget for broadband I would be
confused, but the legislature did a
wonderful job with the administration of
setting aside a large amount of fund to
really make a difference and huge bite at
the apple for broadband deployment. The
regulatory process how that will work is
playing out at the puc. Want to commend r
c r c making sure the rural count ies who
residents struggle the most with access to
broadband during the shelter at home
order, there is set asides for rural areas
and there are real set asides. It is not
just a small percentage, it is big chunk
of money to invest in the middle mile.
moving to housing and homelessness, about
$7.4 billion across 30 programs are in the
state budget and think you will see more
investment in 22 with those programs. Our
funding cycles are a little different then
the federal government. Frankly about
every week we send out an announcement on
a chance to comment on new regulations for
a grant program or announcing that a new
grant program is out, so it is happening
very quickly at hcd. They are pushing out
money as fast as they can and programs as
fast as they can to support the
development of housing in california.
been trying to send out fast as they come
in. Finally, before I hand it to paul the
legislature has been working to transition
away from fines and fees are collected
from folks interacting with the criminal
system. However the program is built
based on fines and fees and there is a buy
out of fines and fees included in the
enact 21-22 budget. It is about $125
million and then going forward it will be
hundred million. Csac is working with the
administration on developing how the funds
will flow and I would-we just pay close
attention to how it effects your budget.
I'm sure your budget folks are watching
directly as well, but that is a big piece
and I think those that participate through
the csac policy committee will hear about
the development of the applications to
make sure everybody got what was needed to
not hold you in harms way as the
legislature moved away from the fines and
fees for the sort of lower level
infractions. With that, I'll hand it over
to paul.
>> thanks. Paul, are you there? Looks
like you are muted.
>> how is this?
>> much better we can hear you.
>> I want to apologize are on that note I
have a typical zoom setup that I use and I
came in to the office this morning and it
didn't-it was not working. On the up
side, I am able to get my giant gnome into
the picture behind me so I got that going
for me. Good morning. Thank you karen.
couple things very very quickly. First of
all covid tomorrow we enter back into
indoor mask mandate per the governor.
that is expected right now to extend
through january 15. I know there was
comments earlier today on that. Similarly
just to make sure for the public's
benefit, we are in a state of emergency
per the governor through march 15.
hopefully that will be the end. But both
of those are in effect as of-one currently
and one as of tomorrow. So, the
legislature has a couple more pieces of
business before they shut down in
december. Most notably for a lot of
counties will be informational hearing
tomorrow on possibly reform of the
[inaudible comments] lps act as it is more
commonly referred to. That has to do with
the circumstances under which folks who
are incapable of taking care of themselves
can be taken in and detained for at least
72 hours as the board is aware. We do
think there may be additional reform in
the area in 2022 and there is one bill to
watch, senate bill 516 by senator eagleman
who will be up on the dais tomorrow with
the chairs of the assembly held judiciary
committee as they discuss reform so we are
making the counties very aware of those
activities. We'll continue to track that
for you. They will come back, take a
break and come back monday january 3.
especially for the public benefit I want
to make sure folks know the capital
essentially won't be open not because of
covid but because it is being redone,
remade. There is now a 10 story so called
swing space office space into which the
legislature is moving as I speak.
hearings will be conducted there, so they
will be open we hope, coming out of covid
but on the other hand if you are used to
coming to the capital you will not go
there, you will go to a different building
across the street and will be very very
different then usual. You have to be
badged up from the first floor. The
offices are smaller, only legislatures and
chief of staff have doors, and a lot of
conversations are going to occur out in
the open. Just when you think advocacy
can't get stranger in california, in fact
it probably will for the next couple
years, because of the capital rebuild.
the next budget and think karen mentioned
will be out january 10. One thing we want
to make sure the board staff are aware of
and the public, we do think the governor
is going to propose to do more with
respect to homelessness. We think the
emphasis going into 22, 23 will be on
mental health and substance abuse and
trying to bolster programs in those
regards. We are hopeful governor newsom
will propose funding to the counties for
those purpose. This is a very educated
guess and we know where some of the
governor staff have been making visits
around the state the last couple months.
folks may want to google hummingbird sf.
humming bird san francisco a program
already in effect with a relatively high
success rate and we know for a fact the
governor's staff is enamored of that so we
may see in the january temp proposal very
specifically encouragement if not
additional funding to the counties to
develop and sustain programming along
those lines of hummingbird san francisco.
january the second year of the two year
session because we do have two year
sessions in california. January is the in
second year are different. Bills
introduced last year can and will move the
instance the legislature comes back and it
is very important to underscore that to
you and the public that a bill you might
have thought was on ice or had died in
2021 by virtual of two procedural actions
in january can be heard on the floor.
taken off the enacted file and heard on
the floor and some instances sent
immediately to the governor. That is very
very different then what can occur in the
first year of a 2 year cycle and we want
to make sure everyone is aware of that.
we think because of the state surplus
estimated currently by the legislative
analyst at $31 billion but buried in the
same report the analyst says it can go as
high as $60 billion. We think the
legislature is going to start budget
subcommittee hearing sooner then they
typically would. We are hearing february.
we actually would not be surprised if
there is budget action taken by the
legislature in january. Again,ing I think
that is just a function of the money and
also the fact they have legislative
vehicles again since we are in second year
of the two year cycle bills are in the
second house and can be quickly amended
and sent to the governor just like that so
we may see state budgeting in january.
possibly drought relating and fire related
would be the two at the top sof of the
list joel mentioned redistricting. In two
minutes the california redistricting
commission will begin the hearing today.
he was correct saying they are probably
going to wrap up the work very very
quickly. I listened to most of the
hearing last night. For those that are
not aware there is a back and forth with
respect to the mountain counties and where
they get population for certain
congressional seat and the decision before
the commission is really a lot of
roseville or a lot of modesto. We don't
know where they will land. I done know
where they will land after listening to 7
hours of testimony yesterday, but we
probably will know that very very shortly
here. Joel mentioned initiatives and glad
he did. Do want to underscore one
initiative that legalize sports wager in
california is expected to produce if it
passes hundreds of million dollars of
dollars annually for the counties to
combat mental health and substance abuse
issues in the homeless population. That's
not only something that could be dealt
with the governor and legislature, it is
something that will be pushed on the
statewide ballot and have competing
measures as mentioned. On redistricting
and going back to the chaos possibly of
2022, we are not just going have a new
building within which the legislature will
work, we are losing legislators at a rate
of about one a week. They are not just
noticing they won't run for reelection.
some are resigning and taking other jobs.
I are think by the end of this week karen
can correct me, there may be as many as 5
or 6 vacancies in the assembly. That will
make things pretty interesting as the year
unfolds. We also have the circumstance
where members of the legislature depending
on where the redistricting decide to draw
the lines members of the legislature
living in the same district with one
another. One example in la I can give and
wrap up quickly and happy to take
questions of course is that right now in
la there is a proposed district within
which 4 incumbent assembly members of the
same party currently reside. How that
shakes out-I don't to be in that room. It
will be very interesting discussions as
the members decide who is running for what
going forward. That will in fact impact
legislation in 2020. We will be ready as
we can for citizens of placer. I will
wrap up there. I want to say likewise it
is heck of a ride and look forward to one
more year working with you and other 4
board members so thank you, we'll take
questions now.
>> thanks paul. Questions of karen and
paul by board members. I see none.
thanks to you two both. Look forward
working with you further. It has been
great long relationship for me personally,
so I think we are doing great work and
great to hear a lot of [inaudible
comments]
so thanks. Anyone from the public wish to
address this item? Seeing none, I'm going
to change my mind again and skip to item-
>> we still have to discuss the platform.
>> sorry.
>> in the second part of today's
presentation is for the board to discuss
and possibly approve the legislative
platform for 2022. The platform is proved
near the beginning of each year and a
culmination of hard work by county staff
department heads and contracted lobbyist.
the platform is intended to be a living
document and not always possible for staff
and others to anticipate any additional
legislative regulatory or budget issues
that may arise. The board may review this
document on a periodic basis modify the
document however they please. It also
provides direction to myself county staff
county executive office departments and
legislative advocates on positions that
the board may take public support
positions opposition positions and key
policy initiatives that county staff works
on. Among some the bigger changes in this
year's platform is detailed version to
forest management and wildfire risk
reduction issues. More detailed housing
the homeless issues in key policy areas
surrounding that. And then one major
focus this year on the staff side would be
really focusing on the regulatory rule
making process at the state level. It is
not a convenient process. On the federal
level they do have the federal register
which is a one stop shop on the state side
they don't have that. They have a small
little office of administrative law which
reviews everything after the fact. It is
a big priority on the staff side to really
keep your board apprised of any rules and
regulations that may arise throughout the
year through state agencies. Lastly,
staff will continue to provide the board
formal positions the county takes on
legislation through periodic updates and
board reports and information and continue
to update the website for public knowledge
for formal positions the board may take.
with that, I'm happy to take questions or
have discussion on the platform.
>> thanks joel and sorry I jumped ahead.
bonnie.
>> thank you joel and thank you for the
in-depth briefing you gave probably all of
us this past week. Appreciate the work
you have done. Really important we focus
on fire and forest management as we know
as supervisor gustafson has said. I'm
certainly supportive of the platform you
worked really hard this last year. I like
to ask my colleagues one question
something I like to include in our
advocacy. We as a board have discussed
that we don't like state mandates. We
have shown our frustration and quite
frankly definitely frustration about the
state mandates they continue to hand down.
we really believe in local control and I
believe in personal choice so I would like
our board to consider including in our
advocacy platform that we would oppose any
legislation or regulation that mandates
vaccination or proof of vaccination.
>> I think joel just to frame up for
discussion we have a element that emphasis
local control and long had so anticipate
this will be a embellishing and grating
level of specificity for that. Probably
need guidance what that verbiage would
look like.
>> for the specificity purposes, for staff
to work best I would need a little more
detail around that whether it's just the
broad vague opposing vaccine mandates or
just on the private sector, public sector?
how do we see fit? Local control is
typically related to our own governance as
it is currently written so typically
surrounding the land use side of things.
but if the board is so willing to take a
formal position to oppose vaccine mandates
for not only county employees and county
operational aspects but for the private
sector as well I would need that
specificity.
>> procedurally thinking we can consider
and adopt what we have in front of us
today if three want to do that and then
consider perhaps a modification to come
back based on general direction you hear
today as a pathway forward.
>> I agree with that approach. I think it
needs more discussion as to what we are
opposing and why and how it would be
worded.
>> maybe kind of just go around and we can
chime in and that's the commonalty among 3
or 5 hopefully we can clarify that and
take that approach, but just I support
what you are saying bonnie. Personally I
haven't seen anything after having studied
the issue quite a bit that wants me to
mandate anything with regards to covid and
I can talk about that at nauseam I guess
but that is my bottom line so if partially
related to employment private public
sector it is easier. I certainly am
comfortable with our health department
talking about recommendations for vaccines
and boosters and those kinds of things,
but where I am personally is I do not
support any of the mandates that have thus
been dictated or brought forward under
emergency orders either at the state or
federal level and I much prefer all of
that activity being done locally with the
county public health. Jim you want to add
to that? Go around that way.
>> I have no objection to bringing it
back. -
>> bring it back but with direction based
on what the 5-
>> I think we can all meet with joel
individually.
>> yeah.
>> give our perspective to him so have no
objection.
>> suzanne.
>> yes. I am in agreement that I'm
against and opposed to all mandates. Be
vaccine mandates, passport mandates, even
mask mandates so in agreement with bonnie
and robert in that we do what we can.
>> bonnie.
>> thank you and I think is worthwhile
advocating for especially for our own
employees number one. I do not want to
see us mandating something where people
should have a personal choice as well as
they have options. We really been working
with our staff to give them options. At a
broader level, I think that we can support
no vaccinations allowing people have to
personal choice. There are folks who
wanted us to mandate mandates or mandate
no mandates. I want us to not have a
mandate and want to encourage our
residents to let them know that we don't
want to see mandates handed down from the
state or federal government for our
residents. If we have to find a balance
of that where we are advocating I'm okay
but I do think we need to stand strong and
just say we-this is not appropriate for us
as americans and I'm so very distressed
about what these vaccine mandates are
doing to our law enforcement to our
healthcare workers, to our military. We
are losing people in occupations right and
left because they are making a choice for
themselves and our government is saying
well, your choice doesn't matter and you
lose your job. I certainly do not want
that to hap in in placer county.
shouldn't happen anywhere. And I do
believe that local businesses also have a
choice. A local business owner can make a
choice for what's best for them and I
don't want to as a local entity tell them
they can't have something in their local
business. If we say local control we want
local businesses to have their choice
about what works for them as they try to
navigate staying open and taking care of
their employees, so I appreciate you all
hearing what I have to say and looks there
are a couple more lights on again.
>> so, suzanne did you have something more
to add?
>> yeah, I just are wanted to add that
the-my voicing against mandates for all I
include county employees and private
sector as well. Our businesses and
restaurants are just now in the process of
recovering and I think I know our own
economic interests are the upmost
importance for all those working living
working in-I include schools if we could,
but we don't have that control and
authority. Thank you.
>> cindy.
>> I just wanted to clarify, we know the
public is very engaged and want to come if
they knew we would take a position such as
this so I want to make sure that we open
that up and I understand who will be
chairing that meeting if things go in a
normal rotation, and so thank you merry
christmas.
[laughter]
it is very controversial item and would be
specific which vaccines. There are many
vaccines mandated in a variety of existing
professions and other inoculations
required so we need to be very specific
about this vaccine I think is what you are
talking about and make clear what we are
going to have for the public to discuss on
mandates in general.
>> so, why don't we consider our existing
legislative platform. I think staff heard
some notions and of course we individually
are available to get together with joel to
provide clarity and take it from there.
is there anyone else from the public who
would like to address this item? So,
before us-pardon?
>> so, I'm jennifer again still. My
question is, do we have to have cal osha
regulations in our county? Because I
would like to see my understanding is the
osha regulations and I'm not a law person,
but just my understanding is it is a
mandate so it isn't a law necessarily, so
can we somehow include not having the osha
regulations in placer county as well and
either leave it up to businesses as they
see fit, or maybe that's not a option.
>> thanks.
>> michael go ahead and unmute your mic
and give your comments.
>> yeah. Hi. Very encouraged by this
conversation. I appreciate you guys
bringing this up. I would say that there
is a question about well, do we oppose a
mandate for private businesses as well. I
would say yes, because it is a
constitutional freedom. We should have
our right to make our decision.
regardless of what the employer thinks.
and there-I don't know if you aware and
don't know if I can recall off the top,
but there is many laws, federal laws
against mandating vaccines. So, there is
also the nuremberg study for the employer
to mandate it in a lot of cases employees
don't feel they have a choice. They
either take a chance on a experimental
emergency authorized wonder jab or they
lose their job, so I would say yes, extend
that to private as well. Thank you.
>> chairman I see no others.
>> is there a motion to approve-
>> yes, move approval.
>> second.
>> motion gustafson, second holmes, all in
favor aye. Opposed? Motion carries. In
light of our time and how horrible the
chair is doing, we will take up our 1015
timed item so michelle can leave because I
understand that needs to be continued.
>> [inaudible comments] make it quick.
michelle kingsbury. Staff is requesting
continuance of 5a. We did not receive the
ballot and been notified by the engineer
there is a change of ownership so pull off
the calendar to a later date as we clean
up the documentation.
>> move approval of the continuance of
this item.
>> motion gore, second gustafson. Anyone
from the public who would like to address
the item? Seeing none all in favor aye.
opposed? Motion carries. Thank you
michelle. Now we'll jump to the 1035
item, which is health and human services
homekey round 2 program application and is
rob going to kick it off? Y rob is
kicking it off.
>> thank you chair weygandt and members of
the board. Rob with hhs. Very grateful
to amy ellis and her team who have done
most of the heavy lifting on this item and
will hand over to amy to present on the
item in just a minute. But before I do
hand it over to amy I wanted to take a few
minutes to provide your board and our
community with a bit of context on how
this proposed homekey application fits
into the bigger picture of how we are
addressing homelessless in placer county.
as you know, we have been working hard to
address homelessness in placer now for
many years and in 2015 your board
contracted with dr. Robert marbit a
nationally recognized expert on
homelessness to help us evaluate and
improve our homelessness continuum of
care. Dr. Marbit's report had several
recommendations for us and since 2015 we
made good progress on most of those
recommendations including created
coordinated intake for all unhoused people
seeking services, coordinating information
sharing between the homeless services
providers making improvements to the
homeless management information system,
targeting programs like whole person care
to address chronic homelessness surging
back in 2015 and adding resources that
addressed our critical gap in emergency
and transitional houses and services for
single adults identified in the report.
in the last 6 years since the report
homelessness has surged dramatically
across california and in the sacramento
region yet we have seen much more modest
increases here in placer. Placer now has
the lowest rate of homelessness in
northern california and the lowest rate of
unsheltered homelessness in the state.
none the less, homelessness is a serious
problem and increasingly visible in
certain areas, particularly the homeless
encampments on public property like at the
placer conte government center. In
addition some of the long standing
approaches to addressing homelessness in
placer county have been called into
question recently and we have seen
increasing interest in the issue of
homelessness from our cities and some
other stakeholders who have not
historically participated in our continuum
of care. Earlier this year your board
director staff to organize regional
homelessness action plan that involved our
cities. That planning process kicked off
with the placer county regional
homelessness summit june 30 and for the
past 5 months county and city staff have
and elected officials have been working
together to learn more about our existing
continuum of care and been exploring how
to work more effectively together to
better prevent homelessness. The initial
phase of the planning process will come to
the end later this month. The
participants hope to bring recommendation
to this board city council and community
for input early next year. While the
regional action planning process includes
a set of structured and sequential steps
it remained flexible enough to take
advantage of time limit and competitive
opportunities that emerged during the
process and the process recognizes these
opportunities may require action before
the plan is complete. Today's item is one
such opportunity. Homekey 2.0 released in
september and represent a highly
competitive process with applications due
in january. Not only is the application
process extremely competitive applications
are being considered on a rolling first
time first serve basis thus making it
necessary we gain board support for as
many elements of the application as
possible to insure we are viable. The
recommendations from the regional planning
process have not been finalized it is
understood our continuum of care is in
need of more housing resources. And
particularly more permanent supportive
housing. For many year our continuum of
care has been providing financial support
to non-profit to purchase and operate
permanent supportive housing.
historically most residents of permanent
supportive housing have been very
successful and not had many issues with
the neighbors. In the last couple years
there is concern expressed by a few of our
newer sites particularly in communities
that did not have much previous experience
with permanent supportive housing. As a
matter that concern and desire to work
more closely with our cities on
identifying potential permanent supporting
housing sites the county hasn't funded any
new [inaudible comments] over a year now.
given our collective commitment to
strengthen our partnership the county has
been working very closely with the
potentially impacted jurisdictions on this
homekey application and we look forward to
beginning the process of adding permanent
supportive housing and much needed
elements to our continuum of care in close
collaboration with our cities and other
jurisdictions. Before I hand it over to
amy ellis I wanted to publicly thank amy
and her team for the tremendous passion
knowledge and effort they brought to this
very challenging homekey application
process. I also like to thank our
partners internal partners like facility
management county counsel [inaudible
comments] who have done an amazing job to
pull challenging pieces together and what
has been a short response window. Without
further ado amy please take it away.
>> thank you.
>> just to congratulations again to rob
you and your team for the grants and
success we are having. A lot of this is
new territory and we are all trying to
figure the best path and it isn't easy, it
is quite difficult so congratulations for
the achievements you have gotten so far.
>> yes, thank you supervisor weygandt and
dr. Oldham. I want to agree our county
team here and partner agencies have been
amazing to collaborate with as typical
placer is a really special place to work
and be able to get complicated things
done. They are capability passionate and
creative problem solvers. Members of the
beard I am bringing two actions forward.
the first is adoption resolution regarding
the implementation of the homekey program
to first a, award the request for
proposal, rfp 20229 for mentally ill
housing incorporating for the operation
rehabilitation acquisition and transition
services stemming from projects roomkey
and homekey. B, to approve an agreement
with advocates for mentally housing
incorporated for operation rehabilitation
acquisition and transition services
stemming from as a result of rfp 20229 not
to exceed 4 million 692 thousand 845
dollars from december 14, 2021 through
june 30, $2023 and authorize health and
human subs to execute the agreement with
risk management and county counsel and
sign subsequent amendments up to hundred
thousand. The second would be to adopt
resolution authorizing the director of
health and human services or designee to
apply for a grant from california housing
and community development for homekey
round two in the amount not to exceed $25
million and to sign the resulting
agreement and all related documentation
and forms with risk management and county
council concurrence. As dr. Oldham
mentioned thee items come forward on a
expedited timeline to insure the best
chance of being successful in the grant
application for homekey round two. In
order to potentially bring a new project
to the south placer region. On september
9, 2021 the department of housing and
community development issued a notice of
funding available for the round two
funding of homekey. This $1.45 billion of
funding is meant to build on the project
of roomkey and first round of homekey.
our first program was the brown bear stew
studios in king's beach. In the past few
years placer county has been able to seek
state funding to add additional units of
permanent supportive housing for
renovating apartment buildings and or
hotels and motels. By renovating existing
structures we have been able to add
additional units of very low housing
income housing for roughly 175 to 250
thousand per unit. These types of
projects create studio and small 1 or 2
bedroom apartments often with a small
kitchenette. This allows individuals who
would be more successful in non-shared
housing get out of shelters and out of
homelessness. Residents typically pay
about 30 percent of their income and
receive on site services geared
maintaining the housing and accessing
needed support. Placer county staff have
been working to prepare a home key
application for funding toward the
acquisition renovation and operation of a
project with potential to house between 75
and 90 individuals and families. It is
estimated that the county application will
request up to $25 million towards this
project
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fund the acquisition. Specific details
and public notice would be provided before
any acquisition of property from homekey
grant funds and brought to your board for
authorization at a later date. As a
result of the identified community need
and potential availability of state
funding rfp 20229 [inaudible comments] a
hotel or motel conversion to permanent
site in the south placer region.
additionally, in march of 2020, the state
launched project roomkey. This is a time
limited funding for cities and counties to
operate non-congregate shelter for people
experiences homelessness infected with
exposed or high risk of complication from
covid-19. While expected to be short-term
funding for project roomkey is anticipated
to continue and carry on into fiscal year
2022, 23 budget. Because of its extension
within that same rfp we sought a
organization to assume the operation of
placer project roomkey and the transition
of the program when funds no longer
continue. Finally within the same rfp a
solicitation made for technical assistance
to support the application of funds and
for moving forward new opportunities for
additional affordable and permanent
supporting housing. Advocates for
mentally ill housing has served as a
provider in placer county since august
2003. Since then [inaudible comments]
grown to offer an array of housing
supports. For both placer and nevada
county. They specialize in supporting the
housing needs of very low income residents
with mental health and substance use
disorders. Amy housing renovated and
operate placer first homekey project
located in king's beach and another main
street plaza apartment in downtown
roseville. Renovating and [inaudible
comments] as a result of the track record
and response to the rfp they were selected
to contract for all four components within
the rfp. The acquisition and renovation
if successful with the homekey operation
homekey program operation, program roomkey
program operation and technical
assistance. The purchase price majority
of renovations and some operating costs
would be paid by through the homekey round
2 funding. And the balance would be paid
with federal state and local funds. No
county general fund are required. We will
come back to update your board to the
status of this very highly competitive
application and hopefully with some good
news. I want to thank your board for
listening to this and let you know we also
have jennifer price from amy housing,
procurement and facility staff needed to
answer questions and rob and myself of
course.
>> thank you. Any questions from board
members? Jim.
>> thank you amy. I'm right here.
[laughter]
no, I really appreciate bringing this
forward. It is a excellent opportunity to
move forward to find more housing for
folks and I toured the amy housing
programs. They have been very successful.
not much-not many people critical of the
program. It works really well so I thank
jennifer for her work on this over the
years and then I'm very supportive of
moving forward with this.
>> thank you. Cindy then suzanne.
>> thank you. I too am really supportive
and pleased with amy housing and the
programs that we already have gotten going
in king's beach and where we are headed.
I had one question today from a
constituent about the continuation of this
opportunity with homekey versus maybe
other efforts with the campus of hope and
the gathering in. Could you speak to that
issue because I like to have a good
response to our constituents on how many
do we need and how many-
>> I will let rob--
>> okay.
>> thanks supervisor gustafson. That
relates to the discussion about the larger
process of this homelessness action plan
involving our cities and so that work is
not complete yet. I think we'll be the
purview of that group when they come
together with some recommendations and
actually I think the next phase of that
process will be getting specific about
implementation ideas which includes actual
locations and specifics of projects, I
think the work right now of the process is
really working. As I mentioned working
with the cities and others to understand
what resources are available right now.
looking at continuum of care. Getting all
on the same page and then thinking about
big picture strategies of what we want to
together and how to work more effectively
together and getting to specific project
ideas. There is nothing in this homekey
application that would prevent moving
forward on the campus for hope is a idea I
know pretty well, but other potential
projects as well. Amy, anything else you
like to say about that?
>> just two. Just to highlight what rob
is saying. We know from just doing the
work and how many vouchers and how many
people we are working with ready for
housing that if we are successful with
receiving these funds and able to pull off
a project roughly the size I mentioned
there needs to be continued opportunities
and projects in the future that it won't
meet all of the needs, so I think this is
one step that is taking some-it is taking
opportunity of the timeline of this
funding that is coming down to help
communities solves these issues and there
will be more opportunities.
>> great. With this money is available
right now we are ready to go, we have
potential project and we want to move on
this, but at last count our census far
exceeded this. This is only a 10th of the
folks we need to help so there is plenty
room for growth.
>> one more thing just to add is that
these competitive funds require a very
fast timeline on completion and being able
to move folks in. So, we already talked
about we know more funds will be coming
and we need to get those plans together
and get our projects together sooner so we
are ready to go because by the time they
come out we have to pretty much they have
to be ready to roll.
>> great. Thank you.
>> suzanne.
>> hi, amy. Thank you. I have a question
for my constituents as well on any time
they see money going to omni housing or
gathering in they wonder will the funds be
used for individual permanent supportive
housing homes?
>> so, yes. This will, but it is
different strategy then we used prior. We
have very limited supply related to this
type of housing. I mentioned them, the
king's beach project which is small in the
tahoe region is one, and then we do have a
couple of others smaller projects, but it
is not the same model as some of your
constituents expressed concerns about
related to homes or in neighborhoods or
things like that. This is not new
approach, but it is different and we have
taken in a lot of that community feedback
into our planning and our thoughts related
to this this potential project.
>> okay.
>> and rob sorry, did you want to add to
that?
>> just to say I think we've supervisor
thank you for the question. We talked
with some of your constituents about these
concerns and one of the big concerns is
around communication and around again
engagement with our cities and other
partners and so I think that is our
commitment including on this application
as I mentioned we have been working very
closely with the jurisdictions about the
potential for this project and so I think
that is maybe what is different or going
forward what we will commit to on any
permanent supportive housing before we at
least from the county perspective we fund.
there are other potential funders of
permanent supportive houses. Lesson
learned we need to do a better job of
communication and coordination
specifically on the location is a concern.
I think in general there is strong support
for the idea of more housing resources and
more permanent supportive housing but it
is about the implementation and where
those go and how so that is what we are
working closely with the jurisdictions on
on this case of getting that right.
>> okay. And then lastly, my constituent
would like a better understanding of how
you select the particular individuals and
how you decide where they are going to be
placed.
>> the actual people who get in?
>> the criteria.
>> yeah, some of that is dependent on the
fund utilized for the project. Homekey
funds actually you have to kind of-they
require us to use our coordinated entry
process, so which is what all our housing
providers these days are using which is
nice. Individuals who are on our what we
call a by name list are screened for their
vulnerability, their income levels and
many other factors. In fact we have amy
housing here if we have specifics to the
question because the operators make the
final determination so she is better to
answer specifically. In general we look
at the criteria and make the best
determination like any landlord. There is
a interview process for these units and
they are selected after that rigorous
application process and interview process.
>> okay. That would be great if she could
chime in a little bit.
>> sure.
>> good morning. Jennifer price ceo for
amy housing. We will select individuals
off the coordinated entry list so we will
look for folks with the highest need in
our community but then we also have to use
the state policy of housing first, so we
can't deny them for any reason that would
go against housing first. So, what we
will be doing is looking for folks who we
think need the housing the most but won't
take folks who are on megan's law or who
have a serious violent felonies or issues
of that nature, so we are trying to house
the people most in need but who don't
wouldn't put your-the other tenants in
danger.
>> do some of your tenants have mental
issues they are recovering from?
>> could be, yes.
>> okay. That's good enough.
>> I wanted to speak to that really quick.
we also depending on who entered we create
those services and support plans for each
individual and for the facility as a
whole, so there would be staffing
available onsite and then in addition each
individual with additional needs such as
that would have case management usually
often times from my team intensive case
management helping to have individual
plans and keeping-some goals maintained at
to support their housing and some goals to
continue their progression on the mental
health or substance use needs.
>> that leads to another question then.
it was my understanding the state with the
permanent supportive housing is that they
won't allow 24/7 type supervision, so like
in the permanent supportive housing
individual homes that there are no
supervisor type folks on the premises.
>> living there, right. You are right,
there are different types of programs,
different funding, different
circumstances, but with these homekey
funds with a larger project such as this
there would be onsite support.
>> okay, great. Thanks so much.
>> jim.
>> amy, main street plaza and roseville
they have a manager on site?
>> yes.
>> that is 19 units?
>> I believe that one has day time staff
not sure if 24/7. I'm getting a nod. But
this one we are projecting to have 24/7
support on site.
>> they have 24 hour on site person who
lives there as well as day time staff.
>> good. Thank you.
>> okay. Is there anyone from the public
who would like to address this item?
>> michael go ahead and unmute your mic
and give your comments.
>> thank you. So, when someone gets
access to the housing do they have it
indefinitely or temporary or is-
>> this is permanent if they get access to
the housing, so long as they are paying
their rent and keeping the rules of their
lease then this would be their home until
they chose to leave.
>> okay. Okay. So, do you work with any
churches at all with placing and
counseling stuff like that?
>> so, yes. We have many partnerships
with faith based organizations and other
service providers who all put use 211 to
put any individual in need on a
coordinated entry list which then they are
given a vulnerability scale, so their need
level and a screening process through a
application for rental.
>> okay, thank you.
>> okay, with that, I'll bring it back to
the board. We have two items in front of
us. The resolution regarding the
implementation of homekey and the
resolution authorizing the director to
apply for a new grant.
>> move approval.
>> second.
>> motion holmes, second gore. All in
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
thank you.
>> thank you.
>> our agenda is really gotten kind of
tripped up and keeping in mind be have a
12:30 item come back to that is timed but
we will be late for that because we are
late so we are late. Let's accept that.
we will take item 4a which is
transportation fee capital improvement
program update.
>> good morning chairman weygandt, members
of the board. Katie jackson and I'm a
senior engineering with the placer county
department of public works. I'm here
today with a overview of proposed update
to the tahoe transportation fee program
and joined on the zoom call by our
consultant team matt [inaudible comments]
gordon shaw. Today we seeking adoption of
the update to the tahoe fee district
program, tahoe capital improvement program
and nexus study and seeking direction for
update to the transit project list for
establishing future zones of benefit in
the tahoe fee district. Next slide,
please. So, today I'll provide a brief
overview of our existing program. I'll
talk about the proposed updates to the fee
program and discuss associated changes to
the the zone of benefit project list and
open up to questions or comments. Next
slide, please. So, our transportation fee
program or traffic fee program is a
funding mechanism applied to new
development both residential and are non
residential and the fees along with other
funding sources are used to fund
improvements to transportation network
needed as a result of new development.
the tahoe fee district is one of 11 fee
districts in our county wide traffic fee
program started in 1996 and you see the
geography on the slide. It includes
unincorporated area. Currently the fee is
$5440 per dwelling unit equivalent and the
fee program is governed by placer county
code as well as state law including the
mitigation fee act. Next slide, please.
so, typically our fees are used in cun
junction with other funding sources to
build projects. Often our fees are local
match to leverage grant funding. Placer
is successful securing grant funding here
so between 2008 and 2018 there were 10
projects that were funded by traffic fees
in the tahoe fee district. Over that 10
year period fees funded in average of 7
percent of project costs. The fee
contribution on any individual project
ranged from 2 percent to 65 percent of
project costs with that overall average at
7 percent. Of course our other funding
sources include federal and state grant
programs as well as tot funds and other
sources. Next slide, please. Our fee
programs updated periodically to insure
they align with the latest agency
priorities funding levels and development
projections. The tahoe fee district last
updated in 2017 with adoption of the tahoe
basin area plan. Since then sb743 has
gone into effect. It requires all lead
agencies under ceqa including the county
shift from analyzing automobile delay or
level of service to analyzing vehicle
miles traveled or vmt in the ceqa
documents. This change is prompting local
agencies to evaluate the need capacity
increasing project and look for additional
funding for bicycle pedestrian and transit
projects. Additionally, the resort
triangle transportation plan adopted by
your board in 2020 and that plan
establishes the long range vision for the
transportation network in the tahoe fee
district and so looking to incorporate
many of them projects identified in that
plan. Next slide, please. So, very
simply, the amount of the fee is
established through a series of technical
calculations in the nexus study. Develop
a project list and associated cost
estimate, then estimate the portion of
cost that are attributable to new
development, and then allocate those costs
over the projected development in a
specific area. Next slide, please. So
our project list was developed based on
adopted plans in the area including the
resort triangle transportation plan, the
tart system plan, the tahoe basin area
plan and other approve environmental
documents. With this update we propose to
shift the focus of the fee district from
level of service to reduction of vehicle
miles traveled. This slide shows a sample
of the project list, the projects span
these 4 major categories including bike
and pedestrian infrastructure, transit
expansion, parking management and fuel
level of service or safety projects.
because we shift the focus toward vmt we
move away from capital intensive projects
towards a capital component and operating
cost like transit expansion. The fee
program can only pay for the capital
component of the projects and because of
that we propose a funding strategy that
includes both the fee program update as
well as updates to future zones of benefit
so we have a ongoing local funding source
that can provide a portion of our
operating costs as well. Next slide,
please. So, as part of the update we
estimated the vmt reduction for projects
on the cip list as well as other vmt
reducing programs. In total vmt can be
reduced by about $4.7 million annually.
the majority of the reduction as you see
on the slide comes from transit expansion
projects. All most 20 percent come from
parking management and travel demand with
remaining 7 percent coming from bicycle
and pedestrian infrastructure. Next
slide, please. So, with this proposed
update the fee amount would be reduced.
the current fee is $5440 per dwelling unit
equivalent and with this update the fee
would be $3528 per dwelling unit
equivalent. While the project list is
expanding the cost of attributing to new
development is decreasing and that is due
in part to the shift in methodology to
vmt. New development is not fully
responsible for reducing our vmt and
therefore only a portion of the costs are
attributable to the new development
through the fee program. Other components
of this update include refinement to the
dwelling unit equivalent factors with the
proposed update the amount of the fee
would vary by land use type. We are also
proposing a fee for deed restricted
affordable housing in half. Proposing to
rename the fee district from the tahoe
traffic fee to the tahoe transportation
fee to better reflect the variety of
projects on the list. And as I mentioned
earlier the project list has a both
capital cost which can be partially funded
through the fee program and those ongoing
operational expenses which we propose-why
we are proposing of the joan zone of
benefit project list which I'll go over in
a second. Next slide, please. So, this
slide illustrates the fee amount for
common land use types. As mentioned
earlier the updates to the dwelling unit
equivalent factor result in varying
changes in the fee by land use type which
is illustrated on this slide. We looked
at about 38 different land use types and
there is one land use that would see a
slight increase in the fee with this
proposal and that is the gas station with
convenience market. That land use would
see increase by about $235 per fueling
position under this update. Next slide,
please. So, of zone of benefit is another
common funding mechanism and this could be
used to fund ongoing expenses associated
with a development. We are talking
transit service expansion. With the zone
of benefit we can establish assessment the
property owner would pay annually with
their taxes. With their property taxes.
we do have a handful of existing zones of
benefit in this area, those would not be
subject to the update. We are talking
proposing this for new growth only. The
transit zones of benefit that have been
established have a fee that range from $50
to $70 per developing unit per year but
the proposed update we look at expansion
of the project list and future growth
would have assessment between $150-250 per
year. Those are preliminary estimates and
the amount depends how much other funding
is dedicated to transit. The funds would
be used for transit expansion meaning
increasing the frequency of the transit
service, expanding the hours or days of
operation and implementing new transit
lines. We can also provide a permanent
funding source for current pilot programs
like our fare free tart service and tart
connect micro transit service. With
adoption of the fee program today we are
also seeking direction to expand the
project list for future development to
fund these ongoing operational components.
next slide, please. So we started this
program update about a year ago and over
the last month we have been working on
outreach with our stakeholder group as
well as the public and as well as
finalizing our nexus study. If the
program is adopted today it will go into
effect 60 days from now feb 14 and as
supervisor gustafson mentioned we are
working closely with the t r pa to the
mobility mitigation program. Next slide,
please. So, this is the action requested
today. I can read it if you like but in
essence we are proposing an adoption of
the capital improvement program the tahoe
transportation fee district, the nexus
study and as well as direction to staff
for expanding our zone of benefit project
list for future growth.
>> thank you. Any questions from board
members at the time? Cindy.
>> first off thanks to staff. Richard,
kim, katie, especially for all your hard
work on this and I just wanted to the rest
of the board to hear the numbers we are
talking about within the basin in
comparison because again, the
disproportionate hit in the basin for new
development through t r pa mobility fee is
much greater then what we will be
proposing in the areas outside of the
tahoe basin lines. For a home a single
family home our new fee in placer county,
$3528 within the basin it could range
anywhere from $3700 up to $13 thousand.
potentially based on where it is located
whether in a what they call a low vmt area
close to is a town center where they can
bike and walk versus a high vmt area, so
very very significant cost differential.
on a-
>> I know, I will get to you.
>> I want to understand that. Can you
reexplain that? I'm trying to get-
>> katie is probably better explaining it
but the fees within a tahoe basin for
mobility and vmt reduction within the
basin under t r pa are higher then what
placer county is looking at outside of the
basin that would have been proposed had
there not been a bistate agency overseeing
the basin.
>> got it.
>> so what I been arguing throughout and
why I seem crazy because I go to way too
many meetings on transportation, I want to
get credit as placer county from our
businesses generating money and reinvest
ing in micro mass transit, transportation
solutions with tot and t bid money I want
to make sure our businesses or new growth
we can offset some of the higher fees they
want to charge because we will go back not
seeing new development redevelopment. The
single family homes are probably less a
concern because anybody building
affordable housing gets a waver, reduced
fee, but for the mega mansions, they will
pay a pretty significant fee for those.
so, this is-staff brought it to me
attention. We have been trying to work
through it. We are continuing our efforts
with t r pa to credit placer county
because we are the only jurisdiction in
the basin supplementing transportation
services at this level, and because of
that our businesses in our town centers
need to get credit for that.
>> can I clarify. In addition to the fee
charged we are reducing, there is also
going to be a t r pa fee which is even
higher so this is helpful to a certain
extent because it reduces the fee on our
end, and are then we are the only
jurisdiction that has a fee like this.
>> that is higher actually--yes. Not
only-his is for new development but we are
already supplementing transportation out
of our general fund to the tune of several
millions a year in transit operations
including what we supported with micro
mass transit so we have a complicated
agreement to work out with trpa and I
appreciate your support working with them.
they assured me there are ways to credit
our business community with the tbid and I
was going to also ask our staff a question
that on the zones of benefit and in our
discussions there can we hold until we see
what is going to happen in agreement with
the t r pa because the tbid to me is what
we campaigned for and supported in order
to supplement our transportation funding
to turn around ask those people to pay a
zone of benefit charge, I would hope the
county we can see the wisdom of the
collective good on a tbid versus
individual zones of benefit for small
redevelopment project. There is a
question among my education be it very
weak how to explain the t r pa element of
this.
>> so, I think the first-there was several
questions. I think the first question is
can we-your board has great flexibility on
how we do our program both the zone of
benefit as well as the fee program. It
can be changed at any time. We are
convinced and I think absolutely necessary
that as we understand trpa program no one
can be first off double charged. We have
ultimate flexibility but it cannot double
charge anybody for any sort of fee. So,
as we understand t r pa program we'll make
adjustments there. We will have to come
back to the board. As far as the zone of
benefit goes, the action today really sets
up a policy framework saying as people or
new development comes onboard they also
participate in the ongoing operation and
increment of it. Every project is
evaluated on its merits so there may be
reasons not charging individual projects
and may take out a whole class of your
project. That is up to your board and at
the appropriate time can have the
discussion.
>> on a statewide basis what we have done
in north lake tahoe and similar to mammoth
with a tbid that effects so many types of
businesses and supplements what we would
see in a sales tax initiative or just a
tot, is incredible resource and we need to
be thoughtful in seeing a success for the
businesses to keep that assessment going,
because that as long as we are working on
transportation solutions I think we want
to encourage that because it goes much
further then we can go as a county on the
revenues. We need the businesses to
support.
>> I think we will also be able to show or
at least various instances that different
types of particularly non residential
development will have different impacts on
potential different impacts on vmt. Some
are actually very good. The more locally
serving businesses we have that isn't
sending people down to reno or sending
people to truckee to provide the services
we hope to provide within the community.
that's a positive. That's not a impact,
that is a benefit.
>> right.
>> we definitely need to be able to
recognize that. It is very complicated
and we are learning as we go along. I
think the whole state will learn as we go
along. Making sure each and every project
gets evaluated on its own merits. The
board provided resources outside normal
local government provided for transit
operations we do a lot more then that.
>> absolutely.
>> we do need to be recognized for that.
the businesses and your board investment
there should be able to be recognized by
someone and some of those that will be up
to the board who gets recognized for that
or not.
>> right. Thank you. I appreciate that
flexibility and as projects come forward
I'm sure that you'll be thinking about how
this can all meld together and pay one fee
and get as much credit for these and
support for continuation of the tbid and
enhance transportation solutions. Thank
you.
>> so, this is a public hearing, so I'll
open up the hearing to the public. There
is no one from the public so close the
public hearing and bring it back to the
board for consideration.
>> I will move approval.
>> I'll second.
>> motion gustafson, second gore. All in
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
thank you very much.
>> thank you.
>> and so for all of us and the public in
my last meeting as chair it has been such
a management disaster. I'm going to
announce we are going to break for lunch
now and then we are going to come up and
take up our 915 a.m. Timed item fallowed
by our 1020 timed item then department
items and then we will start the hearing
on str which was schedule to be 12:30 and
during lunch we'll take up closed session.
>> the board will be adjourning to closed
session considering the following items of
existing litigation. County placer versus
matthew [inaudible comments] the third
item is being dropped from the agenda.
[closed session]
>> the board returned to closed session.
>> the board met in closed session to
consider the following: county of placer
versus matthew[inaudible comments] the
board heard a report and provided
direction. [inaudible comments] the board
heard oo report and authorized settlement.
that concludes the report.
>> the board will take up the 1020 timed
item which is library service update.
>> [inaudible comments]
>> good morning everyone or good afternoon
now right? Thank you very much chair
weygandt for inviting to come to your
board to give a little service update on
library service. Thank you for all you do
for library service as you now come into
your last board meeting as the chair.
anyway, we are going to give a brief
overview of library mobile service. We
will talk a little about virtual
programming. We are going to talk about
the resumption of service coming in
january. Give update on the strategic
planning initiative and library service
study at the end. I'm mary george direct
of library subs and next to me is
assistant director sophie bruno and the
two of us will be presenting. I have the
first piece which is about our mobile
service. Library mobility service book
mobile service reimagined in a much
smaller van for efficient and stable
sustainable outreach opportunity to some
of most rural communities. Library mobile
service positions the library in the
communities where people naturally gather
to offer core library services that are
professional and convenient. Current
stops include the popular coffee spot the
perky peacock in sheridan. The iowa hill
and alta stores, and the dutch flat
community centers. Visitors have access
to a small curated browsing collection.
can get a library card place items on
hold, pick up the holds and also have the
benefit of knowledgeable staff to meet
their information needs. Mobile staff
promote also in-person programming at the
brick and mortar locations closest to the
stops including the lincoln library and
roseville library. So that helps in our
partnership throughout library service.
and since the van rolled out september 16
we had 89 new library card users and we
checked out 295 items. What is ahead for
mobile library service is adding stops and
extending time as staffing allows. For
example, we currently park in the meadow
vista community center parking lot, and we
welcome a steady stream of folks walking
around the park walking their dogs and
what happened is the staff noticed that
the afternoons are quite busy because
folks are picking up from the elementary
school adjacent to the park so may have a
morning stop there and come in the
afternoon where we hit people are where
their destinations are and we'll continue
to evaluate where people are naturally
gathering. Evaluate how people use the
stops and scout new locations. For
instance, in january we are going change
our stop at the alta store to coincide
with a non-profit thrift store that opens
in the afternoon called the attic so there
is a colocation between the thrift store
and grocery store. We like to participate
at more community event. We had a
successful event at colfax railroad days
so will look for opportunities to add book
clubs or storey times at the stops and
also to participate at fair farmers
markets and other community events
including events in tahoe. And then we
like to assist those unable to travel to
the library as soon as safe to do so by
entering senior facilities care facilities
and schools so we can provide book talks,
kids can check out items, we can do book
clubs and senior centers and promote the
level of reading to folks who can't reach
us. Finally, the near future including
now we started working with fleet to put
together a permanent vehicle. Now we are
using a temporary vehicle but we are
watching it carefully to insure we know
which modifications to the vehicle so it
is easy for the staff to move and be
nimble and get the items in and out. Now
I like to turn it over to sophie.
>> good afternoon chair. Sophie bruno
assistant director of library service and
I'm honored to share today some of the
talented work our library specialists have
been able to do over the last 6 months or
so. I never had have a problem bragging
about staff skill sets and dedication to
our communities and certainly it isn't
more true then during the pandemic and all
we asked staff to do and how we asked them
to pivot and how they go from in-person
library service to something other and
particularly wanted to highlight today the
ways they have-I want to highlight their
work doing in-person-sorry, virtual
programming offerings for the families
that we sever. Essentially the charge we
gave our team was to design a virtual
program that families could easily access
and want to participate in and that would
call upon all the elements that library
staff use to great effect for our
in-person programs. So, what elements
could we pull through and condense into 5
minutes or less online to connect with
those families. Essentially what looked
like is one of our team shared a digital
recording on library social media sharing
a book or story and families come to the
library each week and pick up a bag that
had all the materials to create a craft or
activity that correspond to that week book
or story. Here is a thing about library
staff is they make it look easy and they
make it look amazing. It is amazing
because 5 minute or less sharing a story
or using a flannel to share a folk tale
from a country half way across the world
and combine with [inaudible comments] on
the surface it looks easy. Reading a book
and making paper dolls. I want to
highlight what is below the surface and
that benefit to the community because we
really take our charge as librarians
seriously and we when we talk early
literacy we recognize we are entrusted
with the care of youngest and most
impressionable in our communities and so
what we do each week how we connect young
minds, how we build their skills study
after study shows us that all those skill
sets we are developing are directly tied
to school readiness with children ability
to succeed in school to know how to read
to take joy and delight in literacy and
reading and their own success in doing so
which are really critical markers to their
journey to adult hood. Intentionality is
woven into all these steps from the
selection of the story, age appropriate is
it relevant? We use a metaphors for
mirrors or windows so it is a mirror they
can see reflected back or a window they
can peak into another world and compare to
their own. Specific to sharing a stor y
virtually staff had to be following pretty
specific copy right rules to do so so that
was a new challenge for them. And then
the take home activity itself, created
kind of a virtual or habit to bring
families back into the libraries after so
long. Had to am up and to the service
desk themselves, speak to a grown up, use
their manners. The child is developing
sequencing skills as they follow each
directional step. Scissor skills even.
kindergarten teachers told us so often it
is a advantage when kids learned to use
fine motor skills and you get the play
with this thing you created so you are
building your narrative as you talk about
it and telling mom and dad about it so it
could be a spider web or finger puppet or
a lady bug crown like my little one is
wearing. Okay, the charge we gave for our
team in preparing for our flag ship summer
at your library program had a little bit
of added weight so we asked staff to pivot
to offer a hybrid virtual in person
offering that offered safe but dynamic and
fun ways to access the resources the
library offered during the summer months
and the significant increase we saw and
participation on the digital platform
helps tell the story of their success in
meeting that challenge. Summer
programming is such a draw and so popular
with families and the intentionality here
is that we are keeping young people
engaged with these reading challenges,
with take home activities we develop
following for with performers and reducing
the negative effect of the summer slide
when student are not in school and their
skill sets are regressing because they are
on home on break. We are looking for ways
to nurture the connections staff has with
the families we know so well that come to
our locations. I want to highlight the
department's commitment to supporting
local talent for our summer performers so
that is gabe cristner out of wild things.
they worked so well with our team to be
able to adapt their talent to online venue
to reach families and we have really built
a nice community of practice there and
really proud to support their work. Okay,
finally, I am happy to share the library
service department continues to move
forward and starting january preschool
story times and book clubs will resume and
meeting rooms available for community use
in january. With that I'll turn it back
to mary to give a update on the library
strategic plan.
>> so, we have 4 primary goals in the
strategic plan. All of the library teams
and divisions are working towards
completing the goals and they are doing a
excellent job. We have a number of work
going on in each one of these areas but I
wanted to highlight one in each.
innovative service delivery, the automated
handling and book drop installed in
february. Should be up and running for
customers in march and we are planning for
but don't expect any interruption in
service to our customers. Under community
engage. We'll be contracting a marketing
consultant to assist in developing a
strategies to advertise library services
and increase our use more broadly.
strategic partnerships, we have developed
a wonderful partnership with the tahoe
truckee unified school district. One of
the capstones goals end goals in the
strategic plan is to get a library card
into the hand of young school age child so
tahoe truckee unified school district
reached out to us and we used a mou from
nevada county library and that has been
vetted by council and we will be before
your board for your consideration in the
coming weeks. We hope to use that mou as
a starting place for future mou that will
develop throughout placer county schools
and reach that capstone goal. Under
service oriented workforce developed and
training a set of customer service
standard we annually evaluate to guarantee
excellent service. These standards also
emphasize the unique public service nature
of librarianship and offer a blue print to
build upon the staff skill set. Staff
training seek opportunity to acknowledge
and train to staff and customer safety
while out on the public service floors.
finally, I like to tell you about the
library services study. Your board and
the ceo office initiated a study and hired
a consultant to provide best practices for
optimal library service moving forward.
we are pleased to support that effort.
the study is in its initial gathering
phase and look outward to community input
holding many virtual town hall meetings
early january and in-person regional
meetings the end of january so please stay
tuned as the meeting will be broadly
publicized. Thank you so much for your
time and for your support of our libraries
always. Sophy and I are happy to address
your questions and wish you all a happy
holidays.
>> thanks mary and sophie. Any questions
or comments from board members? Jim.
>> thank you mr. Chair. As you know I'm a
big library fan. You can put a book on
that. Sorry.
[laughter]
>> punt intended.
>> which of our libraries is the most
active, the busiest?
>> auburn. Auburn does about 35 percent
for the system. Rockland is close second
with about 25, 26 percent.
>> I kind of assumed that. Because it is
the oldest library been there since the
70?
>> 1973, yep.
>> a lot of people know where it is at.
I'm pleased at the innovative services you
are bringing forward are being utilized in
the rockland library. Is that correct?
because it is up scale more newer library
facility and more upscale so they are able
to do that. I remember when I first took
office I went down to rockland and looked
at their library, springview park. It was
very disappointing and it was important-I
worked with supervisor weygandt. We went
to the rockland city council, worked
together with them and came up with a plan
to they were able to buy that building but
working with them we got the new library
in rockland. It has been now 11 years in
service.
>> yep.
>> and that was one of the most important
things in my career that I was able to do
and just hope citizens of rockland
understand that the role of board of
supervisors had in that is instrumental.
again, great job. The numbers at the
auburn library are probably-I'm over there
about once or twice a day. My last
question is, can you recommend any good
books?
[laughter]
>> you can?
>> I'm reading a biography about the doors
right now. Robby creiger, the guitarist
for the doors just published his biography
so that is what I'm reading. Sophie.
>> I have a 6 year old so we read a lot of
children books. Not sure that would fit
your needs.
>> that would be a good fit for me if you
can keep the 6 year old recommendations.
>> sure, sure. I'll reach out.
>> I'm hoping to get the fun little kids
activities to give me something to do when
I want to--do something mindless after
crazy days so I was really excited to see
that and sure it is a great hit for the
kids and thank you for the update.
>> cindy.
>> thank you and thanks for your service
and dedication, especially I know it has
been a very challenging year for all of us
to deliver public services during covid.
two questions on the mobile library you
made a point you visited colfax with the
vehicle and thinking colfax has a fixed
library. Shouldn't we focus those
energies-you were trying to promote but
shouldn't we focus the energies on the
communities that don't have libraries?
that was just to promote it is
>> we just started mobile services on
september 16 so it was really to support
the colfax library staff and they were
giving away things, railroad books and
doing event so it was more a literacy
promotion of library services in general.
we probably should have been in colfax for
the holiday parade this weekend. We
should always be in tahoe for snow-fest
and hot car or cool car hot chilly in
rockland so we probably will do a little
of that but I hear you we will be
supporting the rural and remote areas
farthest away from the brick and mortar.
>> community events versus visitor events
are important to build support for the
libraries. Secondly, on the community
engagement you talked hiring a consultant.
I hope you are working with our pio who
has tremendous social media skills because
I think if people got a most in next doors
the mobile library was visiting their
community today at noon come out you would
get a lot more response and same with
social media on hours and closures and
those sorts of things because it has been
challenging in some of the branches.
>> thank you.
>> otherwise it looks like a great plan
and thanks for the report.
>> yeah, thanks to both. Look forward to
the updates going forward and been amazing
how technology has changed with library
service and look forward hearing more
about that and how we do reach out more
effectively to the community so thank you.
now we are going to go sorry, public
comment, please.
>> dave, go ahead and unmute your mic and
give your comments. Dave. Can you unmute
your mic and give your comments? Jeffrey
can you unmute your mic and give your
comments? Jeffrey are you unable to
unmute your mic?
>> thank you.
>> okay.
>> okay, so now thank you we'll take up
our 915 timed item, which is-
>> are we in hawaii?
>> I know. The 915-
>> I just said in hawaii.
>> 915 in the morning timed item which is
deferral program extension and by the way
it is on page 1 of the agenda item.
claudia.
>> thank you good afternoon chair members
of the board. Claudia wade engineering
manager with community development
resource agency. We asking the board
introduce and wave the oral reading of
ordinance to amend placer county code
chapter 15 article 15.70 to extend the
existing fee deferral program until
december 31, 2023. Brief background in
response to statewide slowing of the
housing market economy the board adopted a
fee deferral program in 2008. Fees are
typically due at building permit issuance
allows for fees to be paid early of final
inspection or 2 years. Impact fees
associated with the fee deferral program
are county traffic fee, the capital
facility impact fee, parks fees and sewer
connection fees. This short-term deferral
program allows fee payment closer to the
time impacts occur on associated
infrastructure. The program helps make
projects more feasible which can stimulate
economic development while still requiring
fee collection in time to fund needed
improvements. As well as provide cash
flow flexibility at the onset of the
project. Examples of projects that take
advantage of the program include the hill
top hotel in auburn, most affordable
housing projects of which this program is
a benefit due to the timing of
reimbursement from the state. As well as
individual property owners building their
homes. This fee program expires december
31 this year. By approval of the item the
program will be extended 2 years. This
concludes my presentation and available
for questions.
>> thanks claudia. Cindy question or
comment?
>> no.
>> seeing no questions from board members
at this time anyone from the public who
would like to address the item?
>> we have a few on. Jeff, can you unmute
your mic and give your comments?
>> yes, thank you. This is jeff short
north state building industry association,
thank you for the opportunity to comment
on the very important item. This program
fee deferrals began back because of the
construction slow down associated with the
recession in 2008 but that is-the
ramifications of the slow down are still
dealt with today. As you know, we have a
long way to go to build whether the
housing we need in the state in the county
and in the unincorporated portion of the
county so we very much appreciate your
board continuing this fee deferral program
and allowing these incentives for housing
construction to continue, especially right
now the timing is right building is really
just starting to take off in
unincorporated placer so this extension
could not come at a more opportune time.
thank you so much.
>> thanks jeff.
>> veronica, can you unmute your mic.
>> good afternoon this is veronica blake
ceo placer county foundation. Just wanted
to give a quick comment. Given the cost
barriers for the development of projects
we want to encourage your board support of
the fee deferral program for affordable
housing projects. This is one of many
strategies we need to employ to achieve
housing for all our residents and with
that that's just all of our comments for
today.
>> thanks veronica.
>> jeffrey can you unmute your mic and
give your comments? Jeffrey, can you
unmute your mic and give your comments?
>> it's not our end, sir.
>> okay. Thanks for that. I'll bring it
back to the board.
>> I'll move approval of the item.
>> second.
>> motion gore, second gustafson. All in
favor say aye. Opposed?
>> I wanted to ask some questions, but-
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead.
>> okay. Okay. Who will answer my
questions? Okay. I was just curious
about a couple things since I'm new. Has
this been-is this reviewed every 2 years
for renewal?
>> that's correct. Claudia you want to
confirm?
>> sure, this fee program has been
extended 4 times prior and in 2 years we
can review the program again.
>> okay, I was curious as to what
determines the rate the housing market, it
is good, not good? I thought the housing
market caught on fire but can be wrong.
is there some measuring gauge we use for
that determination?
>> can you repeat your question, sorry?
>> how do you gauge whether the market has
picked up or it has not?
>> it is picked up the fees have also
increased with it and this is a mechanism
just to assist for a cash flow
perspective. Deferral is until final
inspection or occupancy or 2 years. After
2 years of building permit issuance these
are due.
>> okay, because like I said, what is your
gauge as far as everybody is saying the
housing market has not picked up in the
last 13 years--it was 2008 when this was
started so 13 years have gone and say is
the housing market in a similar situation
as it was in 2008?
>> it has improved, but at this point it
is being used more so as a cash flow and
economic development. Sean I see sean at
the podium. I'll let her speak.
>> good afternoon sean [inaudible
comments] community development resource
agency. The housing market picked up as
far as sales of housing that was on the
market, we are just now starting to see
the construction, so the new permits
picking up. Generally on average the
unincorporated area placer county see 300
single family new starts per yearment we
are anticipating closer to 500 maybe a
little more this year and see the
trajectory go up but the construction side
is just now picking up in response to the
demand we saw in the retail side of the
for sale.
>> great. Thank you shana. And thank you
claudia. Appreciate it. Okay, I'm good.
>> do you want to reconsideration or-
>> no, no, I'm good-just had questions.
>> sorry I didn't catch your light quickly
enough. We have a vote, right?
>> yes.
>> now we'll take up our 920 timed item,
920. Item number 2. I just asked the
same question.
>> you have a motion [inaudible comments]
>> we haven't voted? Okay. All in favor
say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
thanks. Thank you bonnie and megan. On
my last meeting. 920 timed item is the
placer vineyard specific plan fee schedule
annual adjustment. Claudia.
>> good afternoon once again. Chair
members of the board. Claudia wade.
today we are asking to conduct a public
hearing adopt resolution to adjust the
placer vineyard specific fee schedule for
fiscal year 2021-22. A clerical
correction was made on the map shown in
exhibit b. Exhibit b has been provided to
the board and public. Staff request the
board adopt the resolution with amended
exhibit b. A brief background.
[inaudible comments] add article 15.85
which established the placer vineyard fee
program. The county code requires this
program be adjusted annually using the
average of the change from the most
currently available index for the same
month of the previous year using the
average percent change in the san
francisco and [inaudible comments] average
construction cost index reported in
engineering record. The calculated
average of the change from november 2020
to november 21 resulted in increase of
8.64 percent. Attachment one provides the
updated cost to the fee schedule. This
concludes my presentation and available
for any questions.
>> thanks claudia. Any questions
by-bonnie?
>> no questions, but interesting I thought
I would point out it is a 8.64 percent
increase so we are definitely
unfortunately seeing the effect of
inflation, especially on our building
industry, the construction industry.
>> thanks. Any other questions? Seeing
none, this is a public hearing so open up
the public hearing. Anyone from the
public wish to comment on this item?
>> [inaudible comments]
>> seeing none, we'll close the public
hearing and bring this back to the board
for consideration. Motion holmes, second
gustafson. All in favor aye. Opposed?
motion carries. Now we'll take up the
first department item which is amend
placer county code chapter 2 regarding
compensation reimbursement for grand
jurors.
>> alright. Good afternoon chair weygandt
members of the board. Mr. Leopold
[inaudible comments] I where am amanda
flow here today to request change to the
placer county code to update the grand
jury meeting limit. Also here with me
today waiting very patiently is lor ina
sims the grand jury foreman. Chapter 2 of
the placer county code provides
regulations for compensation and
reimbursement for grand jurors. Following
a recent review of section 2.112.060 the
county executive office identified the
need to update language related to
compensation for attendants by grand
jurors at committee and subcommittee
meetings. Current code states each member
of the grand jury receive $10 for
attendance at each committee or
subcommittee meeting up to a limit of 2
meetings per day. In recognition that
very duties of the grand juries may
require attendance of 3 or meeting in a
day especially with zoom and special
back-to-back meetings and less driving,
the proposed ordinance removes this daily
limit of 2 meetings per day for the
committee and subcommittee meetings for
members of the grand jury. The proposed
amendment to this county code is not
expected to result in any fiscal impact.
the action requested today is introduce
ordinance, wave oral reading, amending
chapter 2 article 2.112 [inaudible
comments] of the placer county code to
remove the daily limit for committee
subcommittee meeting attendants for the
placer county grand jurors. With that,
I'll open for any questions.
>> thank you. Any questions by board
members at this time? Seeing none, is
there anyone from the public who would
like to address this item? Seeing none,
bring it back to the board.
>> I move approval and my goodness I think
it is probably worth giving more then $10
for just two meetings. Wow! When you
realize what that is it is a active
community service that our jurors are
doing.
>> [inaudible comments]
>> motion gore, second gustafson. All in
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
>> great. Thank you.
>> and now we'll take up our second
department item which is critical success
factors progress report. Jane
christensen.
>> good afternoon board chair supervisors.
jane christensen from the ceo office here
today along with ben mills who is our new
process and program administrator to
essentially provide a 2021 progress report
year end review. You may recall we do
this quarterly. The beginning of the year
in march to kick off what we anticipate to
be the work ahead for the coming year and
embedded update in both the proposed
budget in june and the final budget in
september and here in december for what I
call the victory lap, the year end review
on all things we have accomplished, you
have accomplished together with our county
staff over the intervening or preceding
year. Critical success factor timeline.
you recall we then had a new ceo todd
leopold in 2018 who initiated the
strategic planning effort. From 2019 to
2021 I and others provided progress
reports to advance the critical success
factors and will turn the page in 2022
over to ben to take to the next level with
performance metrix on those mentioned
initiatives. Tracking progress. As I go
through each of the critical success
factors you heard highlights from todd
this morning but this is some of the same
highlights but in the critical success
factors context that the board outlined at
february 2021 retreat. We know a
potential for under consideration a
calendar for item coming soon to a board
meeting near you, arrows for work in
progress moving ahead and check for
completed and pleased to say there is
quite a few checks as we look back on
2021. Strategic relationship and
community engagement. What a year had t
has been. Executing the 2021
redistricting process. We'll look for
volunteers in 10 years time so mark your
calendar. Also we are at work now with
interdisciplinary team of ceo, council,
the board of supervisors staff and sedra
to examine mac process improvements and
revisions for 2022 to expand the menu of
board outreach alternatives to reflect a
number of the lesson learned for what
works over the many months of covid. Also
coming in 2022 is your action plan on the
homeless services infrastructure needs
based on the regional effort begun this
past june in partnership with our city
elected's. Also too, the board number one
priority from the february 2021 retreat
was to really move the needle when it
comes to forest health and wildfire
management. We were successful hiring
kerrie [inaudible comments] and done great
things engaging regional partners on bio
mass work groups, completed the work done
under brett storey's leadership on french
meadows and advance our efforts and
hopefully secure federal and state funding
referenced earlier in the meeting today.
also too as mary just noted we have begun
our library service study. Really to look
at the library system as a whole as well
as to optimize service in eastern placer
exploring service alternatives with
potential partners in the eastern region
of nevada county in partnership with our
eastern region of placer county.
achievable housing. Again, another board
priority. Great credit is due here to
shana pervines updating the housing
element together with partners in the
state cog region which is something to be
proud of particularly given it is foremost
among board priorities. We moved
workforce housing preservation programs
and supporting partnership with supportive
how housing with mercy and meadow view
opening january 2022, hawkins village
april of 2022 so achievable progress
coming soon. Also too we continue to
expand programs and projects to provide
affordable housing through regional
partnerships pictured here was the recent
event we attended and participated in
partnership with truckee for 5 affordable
housing projects in the eastern placer
region two of which in placer county.
pursuing the deed restriction program.
promoting adu. Here is where I need to
give a shout out to the pio team. They
developed a booth they have taken to the
home shows, they hope to take to the
county fair next year promoting adu as
alternative for affordable housing. Also
the housing code amendment workshop. That
actually is now scheduled for february 8
your housing workshop follow-up with
actions to follow for board action again
to keep moving forward on affordable
housing. Public serving infrastructure
and amenities. Many who have heard todd
speak out and about in the region know he
speaks often about how you are moving from
a period of planning in placer county to
implementation. That implementation
doesn't happen without the infrastructure
to support growth. We have adopted parks
master plan, updated the capital impact
fee program, advancing transportation
funding in the basin and invest in
infrastructure to serve as economic and
land use leveraging federal fund available
earlier this year. Funding for [inaudible
comments] advance the new health and human
service building for early 2022 ground
breaking february 23 to be specific if you
want to mark your calendars and we also
through our work with pc ad-hoc
incorporated placer county fire facility
in the maintenance plan. Outcome focused
economic development. Here is a area
where the county excelled over the last
year. Many recall we had weekly meetings
at the onset of covid with all our county
cities county chambers as we tried to
navigate the beginning early days of
[streaming cut out]
crisis. Those weekly meetings biweekly
meetings and now monthly meetings as
hopefully on the path of recovery but the
partnerships were forged during that time
and continue to be built upon. Just last
month we finalized the csus placer center
master plan which is a game changing
development. I know from prior experience
that educational institutions are just an
incredible nucleus for growth and economic
development. We have another [inaudible
comments] we also continue to evolve our
business retention strategy which is a
work in progress right now by the economic
development staff. Also under outcome
focused economic development we are in the
process of assessing eastern placer tot
renewal in 2022. I understand for
election that it tent atively planned for
june next year to continue to extend that
2 percent tot for improvements in the
basin. Lastly, I really want to call if
you have not seen it in our efforts to
enhance placer county ag sector marketing.
this was the top 10 of projects the board
wanted to highlight in february 2021 and
if you haven't had a chance I encourage
you to go to the ag commissioner web page
which highlights the diversity of the crop
portfolio across the country. They have a
story map tour of placer county
agricultural and you can essentially
scroll through to view areas all across
the county. Crop information all across
the county and it really again shout out
to not only josh hutchinson the ag
commissioners but the pio team for
developing a really incredible story of
agricultural in placer county so please
check it out if you haven't already.
prudent and comprehensive financial
planning. As you all know, we have been
well served by those who have gone before
in placer county for the resources we
enjoy today. Ment those efforts continued
in 2021 with the refresh of the community
budget guide, again the leverage of the
federal and state covid assistance to
advance county needs, in 2020 all about
cares, in 2021 it was all about arpa and
putting the $77 million to work.
integrated financing plan something you
hear about and continue to hear about as
budgets move. We continue to explore
health benefit alternatives, enhance
funding of pension trust fund, optimizing
the use of cash reserves debt financing to
achieve county and city infrastructure
goals. Ongoing work of the county finance
committee comprised of ceo the auditor and
the treasurer working together. Fiscally
sustainable public safety service. It has
been a year for that. November 9 we were
before this board with our placer county
fire sustainable blue print. Actions will
be coming in the first 5 months of 2022 to
essentially execute those various actions
we said improve the long-term fiscal
health of placer county fire. We also
revamped probation programs. The van you
see here I believe was one that marshal
hopper might have previewed last month.
this is your purposed book mobile which is
now our mobile outreach community court
homeless service van which is actually
proven to be very successful and to
marshal's credit now a model that 4 other
counties are looking into because of the
efficacy and reaching out to had the hard
to reach populations with probation
services. Work is ongoing with supervisor
holmes and supervisor jones on the cjc
priorities in the context of state
legislation and funding challenges. Also,
on the public safety front shout out to
our district morgan guyer for efforts to
implement the community prosecution to
manage those quality of life crimes so
often go underserved. We established a
new model for competitive sustainable pay
for dsa and expanded the pipe line with
actions by the board to add intro-level
law enforcement positions to start the
career with the sheriff cadet program.
innovative integrated county services. I
thought we had quite a year in 2020, but
our staff only raised the bar in 2021 with
our continued adaptation to covid telework
approach while still getting the job done
via cloud technology and hard work of it
team under jared [inaudible comments]
expanding online service offers. In my
other job as interim [inaudible comments]
I was advised 80 percent of the activity
occurs online versus over counter which
was a shocking figure in terms of money
well spent and investing in technical
infrastructure. [inaudible comments]
moving our agenda process into the 21
century also partners with county
department on information and data
security e. Deborah curtis and it is doing
amazing work and continuing to test the
waters with our county teams on fishing
and other efforts so we are not in the
boat many other public agencies found them
in in terms of hacks, ransom ware and
other things that can make county life
quite unpleasant. Also on the innovation
front we advanced rural broadband needs.
in october the board took action for
county specific programs but as noted in
the morning legislative update we are also
partnering with r c r c golden state
connect jpa to try to access some of
that-what was the figure? $7 billion in
state money for broadband in the new year.
and the idea which you heard about in 19
and 20 will also be launching again. 2.0
under ben's leadership in 2022. Land use
planning and environmental stewardship.
these efforts are ongoing. The update on
the general plan our participation in the
water form renegotiation and next month
see the groundwater sustainability plan.
also too I'm pleased to highlight in the
chair year of bord service the culmination
of decades of placer conte conservation
program work with multiple partner signing
ceremony earlier this year. I mentioned
continue to advance forest health and
wildfire prevention and water should
management efforts and as I are mentioned
todd continued emphasis on transitioning
from land use plan to implementation net
will continue in earnest in 2022. Lastly
I want to highlight for you again these
were the 10 initiatives the board
highlighted back in february 2021. The
critical success factors are areas of
emphasis. Many of these are ways of doing
things rather then discreet projects but
all ongoing. As you note here with the
homeless action plan, with our cities
coming before you on january 11, but these
efforts as I noted are well underway. So,
with that, I will turn it over to ben to
talk about what to expect in 2022.
>> thank you. Good afternoon chairman and
supervisors. Ben mills processing program
administrator. As we look forward to 2022
the platform implementing tools will be
updated including a overhauled version of
the work plan the document that incompass
the board strategic plan process. It will
contain new information for funding and
future needs staffing and at a glance
symbols to track progress. The work plan
is a living document with new initiatives
added and completed initiatives removed.
other update said include a new
organizational monitoring report. Which
provide you metrix and benchmarks to
measure progression of the critical
success factors. These items will be
regularly updated and presented to your
board and also be added to a new county
strategic plan website under development.
beginning in the new year our team will
meet with each of our offices to discuss
in detail and priorities what types of
metrix you like to see for our office to
report out to your board. And to better
define success as far as implementation of
the strategic plan. So with that I look
forward working with you all and
appreciate it. Thank you.
>> thank you.
>> that concludes our progress report. If
there are any questions both ben and I are
here.
>> thanks to both of you for the update
and preview into our next steps. I have
to say I'm exhausted hearing all of the
work going on to live through the part you
played. It tires you out when you have
been around for a while. When I came here
the budget was a quarter of the size it is
currently and a lot less sophisticated and
there was always a appetite by the board
to have more measurable performance
standards and a place by which the board
can actually measure its impact on the
budget because so much of what we do is
prescribed state and federal law and it is
easy in any organization just to keep
doing things we have been doing rather
then shake things up and think
differently. But those that elected want
to come on board and shake things up a bit
so I want to thank todd particularly for
from the time I have been here 27 years
the process now by which we are going
forward that you brought forward with the
first workshop 3 or 4 years ago by far the
best I have seen and think we are pointed
in the right direction as it relates to
having bord members engage on the parts of
our expenditures that can be flexible and
creative. Having staff listen to that.
the 5 fight it out among ourselves what
direction gets settled abon but think we
are well positioned to be far more
entrepreneur and innovative then thing
last 27 years I have been around. Just a
shout out and thanks. Todd.
>> first thanks. I know you have done
this for a while. Trying to get more
quarterly update of what is going on so
thank you for doing this. Ben, I know you
will take pieces and build off of it and I
think as we is seen over the last 3 or 4
years take and put baselines in place and
building off those so I think we have a
good financial model to do and obviously
it comes down to projects and it is
interest to look back and I'm like did
that happen last year? That seemed 2 or 3
years ago. Things just fly by but think
we are just really positioned well not
only operation about financially and think
we have amies amazing staff. Appreciate
the update. Good for you all to hear.
what are the policy decisions you put in
place and how they come to materialize and
there is a lot gone on this year even with
interesting pandemic that plagued us for a
while.
>> I'll open up to the public if there is
any.
>> trudy please unmute your mic and give
your comments.
>> thank you. My name is trudy gardener,
can you hear me okay?
>> yes.
>> great. I was wondering, I wanted to
step back a little bit to talk about the
affordable housing just mentioned. I was
wondering approximately how much money
have you put towards achievable community
housing programs in the tahoe area? Say
since 2010.
>> jane, do-we can get you specific
information on that for sure which we
probably will have to do as it relates to
detail, but jane, I think can give you
some perspective.
>> we can absolutely follow-up. I believe
the request was back to 2010 which
predates my time with the county so I can
work with sean and others who are leads on
housing to get the number.
>> I will say I think [inaudible comments]
we acquired the dollar hill property in
the process of identifying the land use
and layout for affordable and workforce
housing. I think there is a lot of
investment made and continue to be made
with the approval of the tbid it is able
to reallocate dollars to both housing and
transportation. This was the board
directive for those what we call freed up
tot dollars are used for those specific
purposes, so we are more then happy to get
you more information. I know 10 years,
now 11 years of funding is quite a bit but
in the last 2 or 3 years this is a
concerted effort by the board.
>> good.
>> thank you. Yes, the chairman did
mention the measurable spending and was
just wondering would there be a way of
providing that by next month's meeting?
it shouldn't take long.
>> I don't have to do the work but will
say sure.
[laughter]
>> we'll do a quick update.
>> we are both looking for the same thing
mr. Chairman.
>> we'll get that for you for sure within
a month.
>> thanks so much.
>> thank you. Thank you again and with
that, we have to do a little cleanup on
another issue county counsel advices me
and so I'll turn it over to karen.
>> mr. Chair, members of the board it has
come to our attention that we had a-this
is a procedural glitch in our consents
calendar and as a result what I like to
ask the board to do is reconsider items
19a and 20a and I'll explain why. If I
can have a motion for that.
>> so moved.
>> second.
>> motion and second. All in favor say
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
>> great. For 19a, I would now like the
board to adjourn as the county and to
reconvene as the placer vineyard park and
recreation district.
>> adjourn as placer county board of
supervisors and reconvene as placer county
parks district?
>> yes, park district. As such I like to
request that you move to approve once
again the adoption for resolution to
approve a joint community facilities
district.
>> move approval.
>> second.
>> motion and second. All in favor say
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
>> like you to adjourn as the park and rec
district and reconvene as the bord.
>> placer county parks district is
reconvening as the placer county board of
supervisors.
>> to take up consideration of 20a as the
placer county board of supervisor,
assessment work flow software.
>> so moved.
>> second.
>> motion and second. All in favor say
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
>> thank you very much.
>> thank you. And now we will take up our
1230 timed item which is short-term rental
ordinance update so this is a update that
I want to say from the beginning that
staff definitely is looking for
specificity and direction from the board
in terms of the comments and hopefully
consensus so if we can keep that in mind I
think it will be helpful as we move
forward. Stephanie.
>> good afternoon stephanie holloway with
the tahoe [inaudible comments] chairman
weygandt members of the board mr. Leopold
mrs. Schwab. I lost my cohort. She will
be back. Here this afternoon to really
kick off a presentation on short-term
rentals and convene workshop with your
board to seek further direction so I'm
joined by a diverse team here-not here but
will be here really working diligently for
the options around short-term rentals and
really bringing that before your board for
consideration hopefully early in january
before the end of had moratorium. Crystal
jacobson deputy director and aaron
[inaudible comments] with bay area
economics and going to copresent the item.
aaron is on zoom with us this afternoon.
also I didn't to mention nick martin in
the and emily setzer are also available
via zoom for technical questions that may
come up. So, I am going to advance our
slide here. Okay. So, let me start with
brief history around the short-term rental
ordinance. Your board is familiar with
this but will go back through. The
ordinance was first considered by your
board at the end of 2019, and really to
address some nuisance and growing safety
concerns within the community. The
adoption of article 19.42 january 2022
included a list of operational standards
focused on noise, trash, fire and building
code compliance as well as parking
concerns brought up tie buy the community.
your board recently adopted urgency
ordinance and extension in july and august
of the past summer which established a
moratorium for the increase on the
increase of new short-term rentals within
the community until march 31, 2022 so the
purpose is to create a pause and give
staff time to really dig if had to some of
the concerns related to increase usage of
second homes and around the short-term
rentals and think concern the effects of
the demand for these homes on workforce
housing specifically availability and the
potential for price escalation. So, just
a timeline here from the adoption of the
urgency ordinance back in july and august.
staff quickly appreciated the very short
window of time we had to engage the
community to really dig in on a number of
issues around housing to crunch some the
data that we were still working on
acquiring and really kind of come up with
some options to bring forward to your
board. It has been about 3 months since
then. I will say we really set to work
initially by listening doing large
stakeholder meetings as well as a number
of different focused stakeholder
discussions to really dig in and
understand the big picture, understand
every voice. The issue of short-term
rental touches so many different community
members in different ways so we wanted to
make sure we understand the full depth of
the issue. We are here today to really
give you a update on the progress. We
promised we would do that this summer so
here before the end of the year to do that
and also engage with the board on
potential options around str restrictions.
so just to talk briefly on the outreach
efforts, county staff lead two larger
stakeholder workshops really like I said
kind of coming together with a multitude
of voices really seeking some community
lead solutions around str. From that
initial brainstorming we did dig in on a
number of focus groups having deeper
discussions and identifying more detailed
concerns. So, overall we held 12
stakeholder meetings targeted discussions
over the last 12 months. And then
additionally just to mention stakeholder
outreach really once we felt we had
refined the issues and are formulated
options for the community to consider, we
did launch a larger online survey, which
resulted in over 1500 direct responses so
we felt that was a pretty good
representation of the community. I will
say that the survey was provided through
three different delivery method. We
contracted with a contractor to do a
initial blast to people within the
community that were sort of signed up to
give feedback around community issues. We
also specifically sent that survey out
through our pio office to our str owners
and operates and then thirdly just a
general public getting on next door to get
it out to the greater community. We
really felt this method provided us with
some understanding of where the potential
biases may be within different groups
within the issue. So, I'll mention there
is a detail on that survey in the results
are contained in your packet and I'll
highlight I think of importance here
really is that there is a
significant-maybe not significant but a
variation in the response between the
flash vote and open survey and then also
the survey that we sent out specifically
to our str owners and operators. So,
boiling it down the issues we heard from
the community outreach, really around
workforce housing I think your board heard
those concerns previously this summer.
neighborhood character around nuisance
issues, trash, noise, parking. Fire life
safety, we did talk to the fire districts
specifically. Them having concerns about
just consistency of inspections, making
sure the units were inspected before the
permit was issued. Also heard from them
just overall desire for potentially
folding into defensible space inspection
so a number different issues we talked to
the fire districts about. Also of note
just really the connection with the
potential for impact on our hotel economy.
I think the discussion here is really just
the equity between hotels and second homes
used as tourist accommodation, so that
conversation seemed to boil up to the
surface as well over and over. Lastly,
I'll mention staff has been really focused
on the effectiveness of the ordinance as
far as enforcement and making sure that we
are being purposeful and removing any
barriers for implementation of the
ordinance so you will see that in
crystal's presentation. Just to mention
our vision I think like I said we did a
lot of listening tried to boil down these
issues and come up with a vision to move
forward striving for a balance of housing
between housing in the residential
community potentially but also our tourist
housing accommodation within the town
centers creating a balance there. And
then also creating a balance and
supporting our economy in eastern placer
which is predominantly tourism allowing
workforce housing and incent vising
workforce housing. Lastly achieving code
compliance and maintaining our community
character so I think this boils it down to
the three big issues that seem to come out
of all the engagement. Our team did
perform additional research. We mentioned
this to you last time over the summer that
we started research on other jurisdictions
and really what they were doing to sort of
solve some of the challenges they were
having around destination stewardship and
tourist mitigation on the screen here is
just a few of those common actions that
other areas are taking to address these
concerns. There is a more detailed
breakdown in attachment d in your packet.
so, from this we took clues of some
practices that we might think are valuable
and viable within our communities in
eastern placer and kind of started vetting
those with the community and stakeholders.
so we did review approximately 20s
different jurisdictions in the local
areas. There are a number of counties
that have taken action in the area around
str and targeting other tourist economy
mountain towns to really look for common
practices. So, these areas included
summit county, avon, steam boat springs,
crest butte in colorado and jackson
wyoming and moab utah. I will sort of
highlight the prevalence and you will see
that in the packet of options related to
zoning. It is not something we are
bringing forward today and it is mostly
because our area of eastern placer is
really pretty diverse. The zoning
district and the zoning area is very
complex, especially when we start
considering the tahoe basin and the
overlay of the zone districts from t r pa,
so you will see that in the packet. It is
very common around cities opposed to
counties that have a different
jurisdictional structure. I'll note the
uniqueness and inconsistency of
application of some of these options
within different areas. I think we were
really looking for a tool box of best
practices. I think we found there are a
lot of practices, but they are applied
very uniquely for different jurisdictions
and so I think our charge was to find the
right tool box and right options for
placer that we wanted to bring forward for
you today. Crystal will dive into this a
little deeper but this is a preview of
options that we vetted. So before she
does that I wanted to introduce aaron new
sane again from bay area urban economics.
aaron was instrumental in digging in on
the tot and str data he'll walk through
and coming up with initial findings around
the economic questions raised earlier this
year. So, I'll mention his full report is
available as attachment b in your packet
and just sort of to report out again there
is a very short timeline we asked aaron to
pull this information together and to have
this packet ready for you, so it was
available online on friday for your
consumption as well as the public. So,
with that I'll hand it over to aaron.
>> we had the privilege working with the
county to pull together information a
relatively short-term prime with the
associations between short-term rentals
and the availability and pricing of
long-term housing and then also dug into
some of the available data on the str
market in eastern placer county specific.
in terms of the data we looked at specific
to eastern placer county, the primary data
source we ended up relying was county
inventory of tot certificates that is any
property that collects and remits
transient occupancy tax as well as the
county inventory of permitted str. Looked
at data from a couple private data
vendors. The data coverage was pretty
subpar so did not rely on the data
particularly heavily. We also looked at
census data with regard to the housing
inventory and the placer county assessor
parcel data with regard to home owner
exemption. The first main phase of the
research was to do a review of the
contemporary academic literature with
regard to relationship with regard to str
and availability of pricing of long-term
housing. We also looked at studies and
specifically spoke to relationship between
str and hotel viability in particular
looking at occupancy, average daily rates
and revenue per available room night. We
looked at total of about 23 articles about
16 of those specifically spoke to the
relationship between str and housing. 4
looked at relationship between str and
hotels and had a handsful of others more
focused on the regulatory responses to str
markets. The scope of the current
academic literature mostly focus on large
urban tourist destinations. Places like
new york, san francisco, barcelona,
london. We found study that -looked at a
variety of communities across oregon
including larger and smaller rural
destinations. So, with those caveats in
mind, the literature on str consistently
found a significant relationship between
the prevalence of str in a certain
residential market and the availability
and pricing of long-term housing.
generally speaking the effect seem to be
stronger between str and for sale housing
compared to pricing of rental housing.
the logic is str effect the pricing
rational for for sale housing where they
effect pricing for rental housing more in
terms of reduction in the available
supply. The literature found that in
general str do incentivize conversion of
long-term housing and a number of studies
specifically identified increase trend
toward investor activity. That is a
effecting housing pricing. In terms of
the document relationship between the str
and hotel market, it is much less well
studied and the results are somewhat
inconsistent, however there is a handful
of studies that did document relationships
in particular on hotel pricing and result
higher str in the market correlating to
less aggressive pricing for hotel
properties. As a general indication those
effects may effect mid-tier and lower tier
properties more compared to higher tier
properties. The research seems to suggest
hotels across the spectrum are more or
less equally impacted. Studies also
specifically noted that while some of the
coefficients of impact and magnitude of
str 1 percent increase in str may appear
relatively modest the rapid growth in the
str market can have a significant
cumulative affect on the markets. Next
slide. So, I want to change gears and
talk about the
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according to data provided by the county
there are about 15600 total housing units
in the eastern county. Of those about 12
percent are owner occupied but 9 percent
are estimated to be long-term rented with
just under 80 percent being second homes.
based on the tot certificate data we have,
it appears as of the 2020-2021 fiscal year
there are about 4420 residential units
that were submitting tot. That represents
about 28 percent of the total housing
stock. There were additional 1445
residential unit that were registered,
they had tot certificates about not
actively generated tot to the county.
that represents 9 percent of the housing
stock. To be more specific, we were
looking at single family units,
condominium, townhomes, plex units, mobile
homes and apartments as being
representative of short-term rentals. We
are categorizing hotel motel property bed
and breakfast condo hotel and time share
property as part of the long-term lodging
market so those units are not included in
the totals. Next slide. So, this figure
illustrates growth in a number of active
revenue generated tot certificates by unit
type. So, the orange line essentially
shows the inventory of hotel motel b & b
over time shows that inventory being
relatively stable. The blue line shows
residential units, again single family,
plex, condo, etcetera. And it shows
fairly consistent growth over time among
the short-term rental market. Next. Here
we are layering in an additional line in
gray that specifically shows the inventory
of condo hotel and time sharing units and
we see a significant increase and
volatility. We are still working to
identify [inaudible comments] next slide.
here we show the same data but in a
slightly different format and you see the
cumulative inventory of overnight visitor
accommodations. You can see the single
family plex and apartment inventory of
short-term rentals along the bottom in
increase. Gradual increase in condo unit.
increase in hotel motel properties and
significant increase but volatility in the
condo hotel and time share. Next slide.
this data shows the total number of str in
a couple different buckets as a percentage
of the housing stock. The most recent
numbers there were about 2510 total
permitted str in eastern placer county
that represented about 16 percent of the
total housing stock. If you look more
broadly include unit excluded from the
current permit regulations that total
increases to just over 4400 units total
which is about 28 percent of the total
housing stock. If you also layer in other
tot certificates associated with
residential units not generating revenue
but have the potential to do so, that
percentage increases to about 30 percent
the total housing stock that could
potentially engage short-term rental
activity. This shows a slightly different
percentage looking at just single family
inventory both within the str inventory
and total housing stock. Just under 2600
units generating revenue that represented
about 21 percent of the total single
family inventory. If you are in the unit
not generating revenue about the tot
certificate it increased it 3800 or 31
percent of inventory. This figure shows
the distribution of active revenue
generating tot certificates that were
joined with the county parcel inventory
and the reason we did that was to identify
which revenue generating str were
associated with properties that had
claimed the state and federal home owner
exemption on the taxes and we are using
that essentially as the proxy for
full-time occupancy. The data generally
indicate units with home owner exemptions
represent 3 percent of all revenue
generating residential units that have tot
certificates. About 133 units in total
and most of the units are second family.
the remainder of the inventory is presumed
to be second homes as well as investor
owned properties. Next slide. On the
left here we can see information that was
pulled from the county's permitted str
inventory so this is just permitted str
and among those properties about 62
percent were professionally managed while
38 percent were owner managed. On the
right we see data for all revenue
generated units and from that we see 57
percent of the total active str inventory
was permitted under the county existing
regulations. Next slide. This figure
illustrates distribution of revenue
generating tot certificates by type
throughout the county. Generally speaking
we see significant clustering of
short-term rental properties in proximity
to major tourist destinations in
particular you have olympic valley alpine
meadows north star and north and west
shores of lake tahoe and [inaudible
comments] this figure illustrates the
distribution of revenue generating str by
bedroom size. We can see the majority of
units have between 2 and 4 bedrooms with
only about just under 6 percent of the
total str inventory having 5 or more
bedrooms and this generally suggests the
majority of rental properties in eastern
placer county are of a size functionally
appropriate for long-term housing as well.
next slide. Now we will talk about the
availability of occupancy of revenue
generating short-term rental properties.
this slide in particular is illustrating
for the most part short-term rental
properties are making available for
occupancy for very large segments of the
year. You can see the largest cohort is
271 nights per year. The general thinking
is most property owners are making their
property available for large portions of
the year so they can take advantage of
peak in demand as they materialize within
the market and they really only intend to
rent the unit for smaller amounts of time.
next slide. Here we see the distribution
of occupancy by number of nights. All is
a large clustering around hundred nights
and less and then a tale going off with
fewer and fewer properties being rented
throughout the year. Here we have the
average and median availability and
occupancy for revenue generating
residential properties with tot
certificates. You can see that on average
units are being made available of about
250 nights per year and occupied 103
nights average. There is about 104
weekend nights per year. So, we can see
units are occupied for significant
portions of the year and we also have to
acknowledge that it may not be every
weekend but you may have certain times of
year that have concentrations of demand
and a unit may be vacant for other
portions of the year. In general this
equals out to be average occupancy rate of
about 41 percent based on the available
self reported dat aa. In terms of the
average price paid per occupied night, we
are seeing total of about $344 per night
per unit. Based on average occupancy that
averages out to total gross revenue of
little over $35 thousand per year and if
we break that down into monthly average
that total is about $2900 per month. We
are recognizing the revenue may accrue in
lumps throughout the year and may not be
evenly distributed [inaudible comments] we
also compare that gross revenue generating
potential that is equal a little over 50
percent of the total debt service payment
for medium priced home. If you like at
sales between january and september this
year. Next slide. So while we don't
necessarily have a direct sufficient data
to substantiate direct relationship in
eastern placer county between str and
long-term pricing availability the
available literature suggests there is
likely some possible relationship.
[audio cutting out]
showing the average occupancy and vac ancy
between the 2006, 2010 community survey.
[inaudible comments] increase in the
number of units or percentage of units
held vacant for seasonally occasional use,
decrease in percent on units that are
full-time occupied. Next slide. So, one
other piece of the analysis we were
charged evaluating what the relationship
between str and the hotel and motel
overnight accommodations market. We are
doing this in order to essentially better
understand the extent to which regulating
str constrain the ability of tourist
accommodation recognizing eastern placer
county is a tourist driven economy. We
initially did that looking at the 2016
dean ronion visitor demand economic impact
study and we updated the numbers to get a
sense of the total number of visitor days
and or overnight-demand for overnight
accommodations and seen a significant
increase. There is insufficient data at
this time to fully assess the extend to
which the current inventory of overnight
accommodations is adequate. That said,
additional data that summarized in the
report attached to your packet suggests
that occupancy among hotel and motel
properties has been decreasing moderately
over the last handful of years which
corresponded with increase in occupancy
among short-term rental properties. This
suggests that perhaps the regulation of
short-term rental properties might result
in increased occupancy among hotel motel
properties. However, we also acknowledge
that demand among tourists for overnight
accommodations tends to occur in an uneven
way, so additional research may be
necessary to assess the balance of demand
and supply between tourists overnight
stays and the lodging industry. Next
slide. So, again in summary, the
literature review we prepared as part of
the research generally indicated str do
have a significant relationship between
the availability and pricing of long-term
housing as well as occupancy and pricing
for hotel motel properties. About 28
percent of the current housing stock is
actively used for short-term rental
purpose. Since 2010 we have seen 43
percent increase in the number of str
units that are active in eastern placer
county. We have seen 47 percent increase
in the number of condo hotel and time
share property and virtually no change in
hotel motel units. In general there is
str properties are generating average of
around $35 thousand per year in gross
revenue and occupied for average around
103 nights per year. The current average
gross revenue generated by short-term
rental property is competitive for
long-term rental housing and that gross
revenue is sufficient to offset
significant portion of the holding cost
for second home owners and residential
property in eastern county. Next slide.
I think with that I'll hand it back to
stephanie. Thank you very much.
>> thank you aaron. And good afternoon
everyone. Crystal jacobson with the
community development resource agency and
so I am going touch on-I will walk you
through some of had amendments we have
been framing up for the board
consideration but before I do that, I want
to touch on our overall housing and
economic development strategy because with
this effort we are working on right now
updating our str ordinance, it is
important to look what we are doing
overall. This is just the ordinance
update is one piece of the puzzle to
address housing and increase tourism and
impact tourism bring to the region so we
want to think what we are doing on the
incentive side and regulatory side.
carrot and stick approach. On the housing
side we have been focusing on the
development of workforce housing in the
tahoe region. Celebrating the
construction of hundred units in placer
with meadow view and hopkin village
projects which jane touched on earlier.
and then we also have other housing
projects in the works namely the dollar
creek crossings and orts looking at the
development of construction both in and
out of the basin. We also freed up tot
dollars from the tbid dedicated to housing
and transportation. The workforce housing
preservation program is a great example of
your board's commitment to incent vising
home ownership to the local workforce in
the county. In addition your board
involvement and contribution to the the
truckee tahoe workforce housing agency is
just another example of how we are
addressing housing needs in our region.
the north lake tahoe economic development
incentive program tot rebate program for
commercial lodging which your board
approved is a example of providing
incentives to help get lodging units
constructed and on the ground in our tahoe
region. And then on the regulatory side
we brought forward and continue to work on
various code amendments aimed at
eliminating barriers to housing and
promote redevelopment in our town centers
in the tahoe basin area, so in the spring
we are going to bring forward another
amendment package to the area plan aimed
at redevelopment of our town centers. So,
while this effort this update to the
short-term rental ordinance could result
in the potential restriction of str uses
it is heavy on the regulatory side. It is
important to look at the big picture and
what we are doing to address housing and
tourism in the region and again, it is
that carrot and stick approach. I will
touch on some of the str restrictions you
board could consider as part of this
ordinance update. As you know our current
ordinance is intended to address
nuisances. We do continue to track the
various areas of the code we need to clean
up and modify and I will go through those
here in a minute. But before I do that, I
am going to outline additional policy
options that your board could consider
with this update. These are more
restrictive options that can be considered
individually or layered and I'll walk
through this list here. I'm one over.
are we missing a slide? I think we might
be missing a slide or we are having a
slide problems. There we go. Okay. So,
the first on the list is the establishment
of numerical cap on str. There are three
options listed here that you could
consider. The first option a is taking
into consideration the existing str
inventory and active tot certificates.
so, as aaron reported after fully studying
our inventory we know this number is about
4400 or so, it is 4420 represents about 28
percent of the housing stock. And then
again as he indicated these numbers do not
include hotel motel units. And then I
will skip to the bottom number which is
the existing inventory of str plus all tot
certificates so this is a larger number,
about 5800 and represents 38 percent of
our housing stock so again both of the
numbers mentioned do not include housing
or hotel or motel units. And then option
b there in the middle is your board could
consider something less then those
numbers. You can come in under that.
what we did not include here is an option
to consider the full inventory, the 5800
plus an additional 5 or 10 percent. I
know that was discussed at the last
hearing we had with the board on the
moratorium. We did not include that
option for your consideration today
because I think the inventory after
studying it was much larger then we had
anticipated. I remember our permit
numbers right now for str are around 2500
and so we didn't include that but that is
certainly something your board could
consider is the full inventory plus in
addition. So, the next item is a minimum
or maximum night rented per year. This is
another item again you could consider this
individually or layer it. And for the
minimum this is something that could be
layered if your board decides to impose a
numerical cap and this is a way to incent
vise folks that have permits or tot
certificates but not been renting, so we
know that number is around 1400, folks on
a tot certificate or str permit and not
renting. By establishing a minimum you
would incent vise the folks to rent and by
not using it the next person with access
the permit and rent it. Establishing
maximum standard can do two things.
first, is that we got a average number of
nights stays around 103 we know per year
and then the return on that investment of
throwing that into the mix is about 35
thousand per year these folks are making
on their str. Your board could the
maximum. If long-term renting is more
profitable they may rethink their strategy
and throw their unit into a long-term
housing mix. This option may also limit
people or corporations from purchasing
homes for the sole purpose of short-term
renting it. The next item on the list is
a waiting period. This could be 6 months
12, this is something the town of truckee
has been considering so we added it for
your board to contemplate on. This would
limit new str being rented for certain
period of time. It can be 6, could be 12
months but the idea is that folks may
reconsider purchasing homes for the sole
purpose of renting it if they dont have
the capital to buy the house and sit on it
for 6 or 12 months with that waiting
period. Really it would be all extension
of moratorium so you can apply for a
permit but have to wait. Again, this is
something that is being considered in the
region so we throw it in here for
discussion. The next item is special
provisions for primary ownership and
hosted str so we know we got locals in the
community that rent their units. They may
rent to a room or two may rent their unit
while on vacation. We included this
because this is a response to comments we
heard from the community about how renting
short-term is a way to locals to off set
or supplement their mortgage. Again, we
know this is about 3 percent of our str
but your board could consider special
provisions for local. If you establish or
impose a cap on str these folks can be
exempt from that cap. Moving on the last
one on the list is density or geo spatial
limitations. Those are the provisions
that limit str per neighborhood. Some
folks explain them as clustering
provisions where you might have a str
every 500 feet for example. We do believe
this is a tool that may help address
concerns regarding neighborhood
compatibility and integrity. Again,
essentially limiting how many you can have
per neighborhood so you don't is a row of
str on any street. We believe this option
would require a high demand in terms of
staff resources needs to implement
something like this. It is labor
intensive. We also think there are
impacts that need to be analyzed so we
think that with this option we need a
little more time to analyze this option
and thoroughly vet it before the community
and your board so for those reasons it
isn't something that we are bringing
forward at this time for your board's
consideration but it is something if your
board desires we can bring forward at a
later date. So, as I stated earlier we do
continue our team continues to track areas
of the code that are problematic that we
believe are not effective or need to be
revisited or cleaned up so this is a list
of the items. We were before your board
last march with a cleanup effort so these
items I will talk about now are really in
that same spirit of cleaning it up. The
first is to propose to eliminate the
exemption provisions or modify them in the
ordinance. The ordinance apply to all
residential properties. Not apply to
hotel motel condo tells or time shares.
that function like hotel we say they would
be not subject to the ordinance but if
they are functioning as residential use
they are subject are. This is a gray area
in the code. It is hard for staff to
implement it. There is a lot of back and
forth with property owners a lot time
spent reviewing and a lot of folks that I
think think they are exempt and don't
request exemption and operating without a
permit so we know have about 40 percent of
our units that either think they are
exempt or come for exemption request.
because of that then they are also
not-don't have the benefit of inspection
so not getting the fire life safety
inspections and also not being enforced.
so, we believe that this eliminating the
exemptions would help provide consistency
in permitting and inspections and
enforcement. The next item on the list is
to add or increase fire protection
standards. This proposing to require fire
inspections at the time of permit
application. Currently applicants have 3
to 5 years to get inspections so for the
privately managed str they have 3 years
and professionals have 5 years. What we
are finding is that we are two years into
the program. This is our second permit
cycle and we have only about 8 percent of
properties that have been inspected have
had the fire inspection. What we know is
the current model is really not working
and so we are proposing to change that.
we are also requiring more frequent fire
inspections so currently we have a system
where just mentioned every 3 years the
private managed folks get inspections and
are or supposed to and then every 5 years
the profession al folks are and the burden
is on the applicant to initiate the
inspections. What we are proposing is 1
and 3 your model. 1 year for the
privately managed folks and 3 for
professionals. Also proposing a rolling
annual permit model, so changing the
permitting to rolling model instead of
permits that expire at the same time
annually. We believe this would allow
applicants would help would be in support
of this because they come any time of the
year I and get a permit and run the full
year instead of expiring every march.
this would help our staff to spread out
the processing of applications, lesson the
demand and resource need at one time every
year. The same is true for the fire
district. This allows them to continually
inspect properties if your board elects to
go with a model where fire inspections are
required a that time of permit
application, the fire districts will have
to do those inspections with every
application but if you rolled it out
through the year it is a little more
manageable. Talking with the fire
districts they did express they are open
to the model. I will say they are
currently concerned with how few str units
have been inspected and worried about
getting big influx within the next year in
terms of numbers of units they need to
inspect. We have talked to the fire
districts about the capacity to handle the
type of inspection load. We need to have
further discussion there. We have talked
about the county could have a inhouse
inspector to help with districts that need
capacity do inspections. Moving on to the
the stricter nuisance standards. We
proposing to strengthen noise and
occupancy limits. The occupancy standards
to bring those in line with industry
standard which is 1.5 times the nightly
occupancy so if you have a unit that has
an occupancy limit of 8 you can have 1.5
times that number for day time occupancy.
the idea is limit parties. There is
provision in the code that allows to get a
special use permit. Special event permit
for str that is through the planning
department, so if you were hosting a
larger party there is a avenue for folks
to do that. And then for parking we would
require parking stall counts to be posted
in the advertisement so folks know what
the constraints are on a site for parking
and are for noise propose to increase
quite hours and then prohibit outdoor
amplified sound. Moving on to the next
one increasing str unit postings requiring
posting in common places inside the unit
plus each additional bedroom and outside
on either a [inaudible comments] or a
window and it would require the permit
number general information about the
operational stander, warnings about red
flag days, and again this is really
industry standard. It would also have the
str hot line and provide a way for folks
to understand this is a str unit and know
where to call if there are issues.
limiting 1 per parcel apply to multifamily
and single family and not condo units. We
believe this alignment with the state
housing goal if there are two units on a
property a d ru intended for to be
available for housing. The other logic
behind this is it provides for on site
management so if you have two units on a
property someone could live there and
provide on site management. We'll point
out we did take a look, we currently have
four parcels now, so so 4 parcels with
active permits 2 permits on a property.
three of those are duplexes. Not a lot of
units right now where we see two permits
on one property. The next on the list
here is increased penalty fines. We are
prosing to bring up the fines to industry
standard in line with senate bill $60,
which sets maximum fines for str so we
would propose- first under the current
model we got escalating structure from
$500 fine that goes to a thousand and we
propose to change that from start at $1500
go to $3 thousand and go to $5 thousand so
escalates up. Also proposing just to
change this standard so you got different
fines for operational standards and
different fine structure for operating
without a permit, so a little different
fining structure for those two violations.
modified appeal process. Currently the
penalties are determined by as outlined in
the code determined by administrative
hearing office. Those can be appealed to
the board. We are just up for the board's
consideration is to change that and
perhaps have the penalty determined by the
sedra director and appeal could go to the
administrative hearing office and stop
there if your board desires to make that
change. Really quick I will touch on some
work that ben actually has been doing on
the permit system and really the idea here
is to align with str permit system with a
tot certificate system. So, we have
partnered with deckhard technologies for
software integration, so as part of this
update we are looking to improve the
permit system and are align these two
processes. Currently we have two separate
systems so it causes-I mentioned to the
board. We have a lot of confusion delay
in permits and inefficiency tracking
metric. Different data sets and st. Is a
challenge to track these as you can see in
the report indicates that. It was hard to
fully understand the inventory without
studying it so we believe that partners
with deckard and really aligning these two
processes will help us with that data.
pulling the data. We also think it will
improve the user interface that allow to
better serve the customers one stop shop
you go for the permit and get the tot at
the same time. It also allows better
tracking. Also allows to track online
listings, fire inspection sign off and
just maintain a single database.
essentially this will streamline we
believe the permit process and help us
with reporting and enforcement. So,
that's all I have on that. I will toss it
to stephanie to wrap up.
>> I'll close us out here. Just remind
your board we are not asking for action
today. This is just to give a update of
everything we have been working on since
the moratorium and working up towards the
deadline of the moratorium. We are
prepping to potentially come back to your
board with a ordinance consideration in
january and as crystal just outlined all
the details we are working on specifically
cleanup items as a baseline and then
asking your board for considerations on
potential regulations on top of that those
ordinance cleanups. With that, I will
just put up this slide. I think this was
key areas that staff has identified for
conversation with you all today to seek
further feedback but obviously open to any
questions or any area of feedback. I
appreciate your attention and welcome
comments.
>> start with cindy and then june.
>> thank you for all the hard work. Staff
has done outreach and spent countless
hours in our community because this is so
critical to our north shore economy but I
did have a couple questions on the data
and this might be for you or bae. Did the
data for the exempt properties show up in
the occupancy numbers and revenue numbers
you show in these charts? Do you know?
>> I know aaron is on but yes. The
exempt-
>> so that included that. And as you know
we have gotten tremendous number of
e-mails and comments from north star
condos I believe were exempted last time
and you are suggesting no longer be
exempt, is that correct?
>> correct, any residential use we are
suggesting they be pulled into the
ordinance requirements. If it operates
like a hotel motel it is assessed as a
hotel motel and permitted that way they
are not subject to the ordinance.
>> great. I want to make sure that is
clear because I read all the comments and
will have other comments but we received a
slug from that group and not other groups
because they have already been complying.
this group was due to some judgment issues
that-anyway, but there is many other
condominiums that haven't been exempt we
haven't heard as much from.
>> just to add more detail to that. As
crystal mentioned this is a area of the
code that is very gray and the
requirements are that if somebody thinks
they are exempt from the ordinance they
apply for us to verify that and think that
is confusing so think there is a lot of
properties out there that read the code
and believe they are exempt without coming
to us for determination. Just to put that
out there as well.
>> right. Right. And I don't know if all
the other ones know that some were exempt
and some weren't and [inaudible comments]
I just was trying to understand why that
particular group and part of it is that
you did meet with them in particular and
reach out to them but there is other
exempted properties that may not have
known to write e-mails to us. Set the
stage for that. The vacancy data the home
owner vacancy data is two years old. How
often can we update that data? This will
go to some of my later comments. Right
now it goes through 2019 and we know the
big slug of change happened in the last 2
years so when you look at home owner use-I
can't remember the title but it is based
on the acs data, american community survey
data.
>> maybe we can look to aaron.
>> how often would we get the data to
monitor that?
>> publications of census based data come
out essentially every year, but they are
usually
[audio cutting out]
>> I bet what you are telling me is census
data we get a year in delay?
>> it takes time for them to collect that
data process data and get it summarized
for publication.
>> but we could start tracking and do some
sort of adaptive model to look at
occupancy as we build housing-and then
quite often I know you mentioned safety
but quite often we talk about nuisances
but the nuisances also relate to safety
for instance the open fire people report
on red flag days, are those categorized as
nuisance or safety? I want to remind the
board we started on real health and safety
issues as well as nuisances and those get
reported and just not sure how they are
categorized like a open fire.
>> they are categorized as complaint
tracked as a complaint. We lost our slide
deck. Sorry about that.
>> that's okay. In general I just want to
make sure we try to understand that there
are health and safety issues that get
reported by neighbors concerned about fire
pits open fires, people not understanding
red flag warnings.
>> what I was going to pull up I think is
supposed to be hidden in the back here.
>> the last slides?
>> yeah.
>> I think they are in the back if it-
>> it isn't important what is important is
you hear there are a lot of public safety
issues intertwined with nuisance because
sometimes nuisance is diminished like it
is a subjective call. I think for those
of us living in fire prone areas and
people not paying attention that is much
more then-
>> right, and with those complaints we
take notes about every complaint so we are
tracking what type of complaint we get. I
have to look at the slide to see. I'm
pretty sure life safety issues is called
out in our-yes.
>> it doesn't have-
>> it has noise is 49 percent. It does
not have like fire safety. Probably falls
under other, which is 15 percent.
>> I heard from a large number of people
yesterday I e-mailed you a couple where
people dont seem to--they look at the
total complaints we received and say that
is de minimus, but then I hear from the
community there is far more, they don't
know who to call, people second home
owners don't know who to call. Do you
hear that as well or is that my office
hearing-
>> I do hear that and constantly e-mailing
folks with information. What we can do is
a campaign to help educate folks. I think
there is a need for better communication
and pushing stuff out through the pio
office to get the word out about our
hotline and the resources that are there
to respond to these kinds of complaints.
>> okay.
>> there is a requirement for a point of
contact so people may call property
managers, they may call specific contacts.
the question is does it really get to the
county and do we get to tag it.
>> right.
>> I think a lot of people are weigh in
that we only had this many complaints and
total there is a very few complaints and
yet I think if you walk around our
community and talk to individuals they all
have stories about even the gentlemen that
we tracked down yesterday one licensed one
not, how do we make sure that person who
was a educated member of our community
didn't know or hadn't called and I said
why didn't you call? Those are-there is
some responsibility there. And then I
think another question I had on the data,
so in the chart I think that nick prepared
to the other jurisdictions. Currently
from everything I have seen the only other
community with the high percentage of
housing stock to str is cresta butte
colorado. Everyone else is far below the
housing stock being absorbed by short-term
rentals.
>> correct.
>> cresta butte and everyone else is far
less from what I can tell from this chart.
>> correct.
>> the research done. And then in several
communities instead of just fines they
actually revoked permits immediately or
two year suspension, and I just-I'm
putting comments out for the public to
react to because I do think we heard we
want stricter standard. It seems
everybody is in agreement bad actors need
and when they make $35 thousand if they
pay a $5 thousand fine it is not a big
deal, but if you're potentially taking
away $35 thousand worth of revenue they
may do more to address their nuisance
issues. I like to hear feedback and staff
to look at the suspensions and there's I
think santa cruz, and el dorado county.
cresta butte and jackson wyoming that
proposed 2 up to 5 year suspension because
I think the discussion is getting a lot of
interest in people finding compliance and
being in compliance because they don't
want to lose their permit so I urge that
and us to continue to track that part of
our housing stock. And then another
comment for our public to think about is
I'm-I have always been open to looking at
what's our cap now and how many could we
expand that to insure turnover so we start
to insure that there is turnover along
with that you must use that permit. So,
there is minimum number of nights using it
you are not sitting on the permit keeping
somebody else from having the opportunity
while you for more then is that a 1 year
or 2 year, I like to hear how other
jurisdictions have dealt with that so we
insure turn over of these if there is a
cap and so I love to hear public comment
on that. And I'm not particularly in
favor of the waiting period but that is
because I think it will be hard to get
there. I would be more in favor of trying
to find a cap that maybe is adjusted
higher but looks at the numbers it is hard
to judge. If we have 2500 permitted but 5
thousand tot certificates what is the
right number? Have none of the 5 thousand
come forward to try to get permits?
>> probably half are exempt.
>> okay.
>> exactly. Just explain the difference.
the 2500 are the permits we have for str.
if you jump to that-let me get this slide
back up here. If you jump to the next
tier in the slide, those are the 4420.
those are incompass the str, the 2500 plus
potential exemptions so property-
>> 28 percent of the housing market and
then when we go to the 38 percent what are
those?
>> those are tot certificates. So all the
certificates whether they are remitting
tot so active or have a tot certificate
and not active. They can have a
certificate and not rent not remit tot but
they have the certificate so that last bar
shows you the potential that if all of
those 5800 were to want to rent they can
turn on tomorrow and rent. That is the
potential with those tot certificates. I
dont know if we have dug into whether all
those are exempt or whether they would
need a str but the differential between it
last 2 are whether they are actively
renting or not.
>> if we were to set a number that
included went to the middle column there,
4420, and added a buffer right now I
understand there is about 75 on a wait
list?
>> yeah, 77.
>> 77 on a wait list. And so that might
be something for the board to consider
because I do hear from a lot of people
that want the opportunity, caught in the
middle. Didn't understand they needed a
permit. I want to include all those
exempted that get permitted because it was
their issue they are exempted and say they
are not. Should we have some level to
allow people to see that turnover and then
finally I want it to be in an adaptive
program so we could track how we are
delivering on housing. Are we addressing
this crisis in our community that we can
serve visitors? We hear e-mails about we
can rent but if there is no one to serve
food or wash dishes or clean or paint
condos we can't serve these people and
there is frustration and anger that
creates a division I have never seen in 40
years living there. I like adaptive
management and as painful as it is to go
through this, it seems like there should
be a formula as we deliver housing or see
housing changes we adjust whatever cap
numbers are set up and we learn as we go
because we have been learning every step
of the way since we started this. Anyway,
I wanted to get that out mr. Chair because
the public may have-I love to hear where
my colleagues feel but also where the
public weighs in. I have been asking some
of the properties owners who contacted me
how many more? What is the tolerance, 50
percent short-term rental, 80 percent?
where the balancing act to deliver on
services versus allowing short-term
rentals? That's the balance I'm
struggling with. Love to hear feedback on
that.
>> jim then suzanne.
>> well, thank you for all the hard work
on this. I know it has been real
challenge. A lot of outreach particularly
in the district 5. Is this the end of
your public outreach other then people
that will start contacting for more
information?
>> no, this isn't the end of outreach. We
are hoping to seek direction from you
today and frame up our final
recommendations on the ordinances. We
will bring that before a number of
community groups through january before we
come back to your board for action.
>> so, you have it down at the next steps
is january 2022?
>> yes.
>> for board action?
>> correct.
>> do you have time to do that?
>> it is a very short window. That is our
target at this point but we-we have framed
up quite a bit of ordinance modification
with the exception of a couple pieces we
need to finish up and dig into.
>> supervisor gustafson you have been
living these 2 years now. You were
starting on a call with--so I know it is a
really tremendous challenge and I just
appreciate your hard work on this because
a lot of constituents up there really
concerned. Let's hope we get it right.
>> suzanne.
>> yes, hi. Thanks for the presentation.
very good. I wanted to mention a couple
of things that I know I did the other day
at our briefing, but there was a finding
here by your team you hired that shows
where there is a move towards increase
investor activity, and so for me, I know
concerns in the community are your that a
lot of those short-term rentals may gobble
up your housing availability. And so it
is a thought that maybe there's some way
of limiting those that can be purchased
for investment only. I know I understand
people go up and buy a second house
because they want to live there eventually
retire and move in or whatever, but for
investors to move in and think this is a
great opportunity buy up everything there
you are really going to be in a hurt for
availability of housing. I express my r
by the 2 tier permitting fees. I think
everybody should be on the same footage.
I think that in addition to if you have
people that violate that maybe there some
sort of step where you violate once okay,
you get a warning, maybe a fine but step 2
you get a warning and fine but now your
permitting fees are going up. And have a
scaled level for those permitting fees
because your violators should pay more in
permitting fees. I don't think it should
be if you got this person owns a house and
they have a property manager and he owns a
house and manage themselves to say that
one is going to be better then the other
we already experienced one of the property
management people did not adhere to your
regulations several months back, remember?
so, they are not always perfect and I
understand that regular privately owned
property maybe are not perfect either but
I don't like the two tier permitting fee.
curious about the-I don't really like the
2 tier scheduled for fire inspections
either. The privately owned versus
property managed because I just think fire
inspections should be extremely important
and make sure everybody has everything
that they need whether inside fire
hazards, outside fire hazard, smoke
detectors and carbon monoxide detectors
and all that stuff. So, I just think that
everybody should be on the same schedule.
maybe every other year or something
because how can you say this property
doesn't need to be inspected for fire for
every 3 or so years but this one needs to
be inspected every year? That doesn't
seem equitable to me. I then on your
postings I don't know you may already do
this, but on your postings I'm wondering
do you have all the numbers listed for
fire, police complaints your hot line
etcetera because you have to have it
posted on the inside, posted on outside
because say someone maybe there is smoke
coming from the place and who ever is
renting are skiing or at the lake and the
neighbor sees it and if they go to the
house they see the posting and find the
numbers they could call. Easy they don't
have to go home google it and do whatever
and the same time your renters have it
also. You may already do that. And we
talked earlier too about penalties and
fines, agree they need to have teeth. It
has to be something whether you have a
tiered fine and fees for complaints
etcetera that maybe eventually at some
point you have revocations suspension that
sort of thing in your tool box as well.
do the suspensions work because I mean you
probably get some people who are like I
paid a lot of money for this place, I
don't care if they suspend my permit I
will still rent it. Do you get much of
that?
>> we have not issued suspensions to date,
so being a brand new program I don't know
I can answer that question, but there is
always I think there are always bad actors
that are renting without a permit. We
know that. It is possible.
>> yeah. And so in your rental or
permitting documents, do you have
somewhere like at the bottom of the thing
that says along with this completed rental
application includes your tot certificate
or this or that fire inspection, is the
all in that document so when somebody
thinks they submitted their application
for a permit it is on there so they can't
say I didn't know?
>>b it is and actually after the
experience we had earlier this year with
the appeal that went to your board we
updated that document to include
additional items as requested by the
board.
>> since last spring with you first
brought this to the board I see a lot of
improvement and work you have done so
kudos to all you for a job well done.
thank you.
>> bonnie.
>> thank you. Appreciate your work. So,
as I have been thinking about this this is
really challenging and supervisor holmes
said, cindy this is a lot of work and just
reading through all the documentation the
other day to be a good amount of time. I
thought about a couple things. What are
we really trying to address it is really
clear we have nuisance issues. Concerned
about parking and noise and we have to
address enforcement and talk about
penalties. I think that will go a long
way to keep the bad actors in line and
think we heard that from our residents a
lot of the feedback so I really think that
is important. The other reason I think
this has come about is because we want to
address workforce housing which is why I
asked you to know what effort we have been
doing to address workforce housing. There
is a number of efforts the opportunity to
do deed restrictions through our housing
program I think is great. The challenge
with this is that the properties are
already so high. The cost to buy in this
area is already so high that a normal
working person couldn't afford to buy a
home and live in the basin. And so, I
look at this and go, how are we going to
address workforce housing? I couldn't
afford a $900 thousand home, and I don't
make a lot of money. I make a decent
salary, I don't make a lot of money so the
challenge is how do we address this? I'm
looking at the needs for long-term or
long-term rentals for our ski industry,
for the summer time. How do we incent
vise that so that people would if they
have a second home they could rent out
their home for 5, 6 months at a time and
let's incentivize some of that. I
struggle with caps and saying no to the
free market at the same time we supera
issue here and how do we balance that? I
just think that how do we invent size what
we need, which is workforce housing. It
is probably the biggest issue and don't
know if just stopping short-term rentals
is going to accommodate that because I
read the study, if prices in the area
decline then more people might be able to
own a home. The real estate market those
prices are not going to be declining in a
market like that that is really valuable
and desired to purchase in. And then I
wanted to ask aaron a question because as
I read this it is really not clear the
impact that short-term rentals have on
long-term housing because I read the study
and read key findings because it is just
not a strong correlation. It is sort of.
the academic literature indicates there is
likely a statistically significant
relationship between str and availability
and affordable long-term housing. But it
goes on-none the less represent just one
factor influence long-term housing
availability and affordability and another
time it says it may likely contribute to
the increase in demand for second homes.
so, it is just not hard and fast. The
data-right aaron or not aaron, is it
aaron? I think that is his name. Not
hard and fast. It might, we don't really
know, covid had a impact. I think what we
know is we don't know the answer but do
know housing prices are really high and we
have to do something to address workforce
housing. If that is incentivize long-term
rents, maybe a cap, I'm not a big fan of
caps, but we really have to do something.
I know we are doing efforts with the
mountain housing council but--we just have
to-we need to fix it and at least start
providing more ways that we have workforce
housing. I think we got tot. We have
freed up tot dollars and we need to use
those dollars to find some ways to get
people housed, so we do have housing to
provide for all the services that are
needed for the area.
>> okay. No further comments by the board
at this point we'll open to the public.
>> waited a long time.
>> I have. Before I get started and not
going to be very long. I just want to
give you a little background of who is
speaking. I have 6 children, I live in
auburn but I came from a family of 6 and
grew up at lake tahoe. My parents moved
there in 1961 and my dad was a realtor and
developer. I used to play on the lawn of
what used to be a hotel where cobblestone
shopping center is. I used to teach
sailing and play shuffle board at tahoe
marina lodge where condominiums are and
there are, notice the occupancy tourism
accommodations there is flat line on
hotels. I had friends who used to parents
ran the hotels and they are now 8 glorious
beautiful single family homes and so my
parents my dad was a developer he
developed star harbor, and he like other
developers he put it all in and lost and
my mother ran the rentals then for star
harbor, and we cleaned the units, and but
for those short-term rentals I wouldn't
have graduated from north lake tahoe high
school. I think they are a blessing and
for me I have gone through the struggle, I
finally two years ago bought a house in
carnelian bay with my son and I'm anxious
to be able to short-term rent it. I take
pride in the properties I buy. I really
want to fix them up and I know that I
can't enjoy it all the time and for me I
want other people to enjoy it. I want
families to go and if you don't have 6
children and go to a hotel and you
can't-you have to rent multiple rooms.
the fire code, you can't go there. And so
for me to take my family on vacation is a
really hard thing and to me short-term
rentals are the blessing for the large
family. They provide the opportunity to
go and vacation buy food at the grocery
store, bbq, enjoy what you can't afford
and to me I enjoy tahoe. I saw it through
when it on golden pond the old movie, a
romantic place of wooden boats, chamber-my
brothers went to the high school now
chamber landing. My dad put together the
land that became home would ski area. I
know tay tahoe and me. I drove in my 2001
suburban. I barely afford what it and for
me that short-term rental is going to help
me be able to take my family and enjoy
christmas--and so that's the part about
short-term rentals. The thing I didn't
hear is how many second home owners don't
use their property? How many second home
owners are just growing? Those people are
not in the stats. We need the opportunity
for the middle class, the guys who just
barely make it to enjoy it and I can't
afford it without short-term rental. So,
I for me it is blessing. Not just for me,
but for the other people who I hope to
rent to if I ever get a permit.
>> if you can wrap up your comments.
>> yeah, yeah, yeah. I think actually
supervisor gore made all the comments.
exactly I didn't see the correlation and I
just hope you leave it open for people
like me. Regulate, penalize, make people
be civil. Anyway, thank you very much.
>> thank you.
>> we didn't get your name.
>> could you state your frame name for the
record.
>> chris.
>> thank you.
>> I got to meet your dad a long time ago.
>> you know my dad?
>> yeah.
>> dave, go ahead and unmute your mic and
give your comments.
>> hi. Thank you mr. Chairman and members
of the board. My name is dave norad just
finishing my lunch getting ready to go to
work. I would be one of the rare people
who are considered a local but also use my
property as a short-term rental. Been a
resident and owner and taxpayer in placer
county tahoe city since 1996. I rent
short-term through airbnb and manage
myself. I have a one bedroom condo with 2
night minimum. I have and continue to
work in the area in the service industry
in many different aspects ski resort, golf
courses restaurants. And just as a point
of reference to for today and the meeting,
the item regarding the maximum limit on
nights for the rentals is something that
I'm concerned with. As my property
provides me a significant source of my
income. In addition to that I support
other aspects down stream and up stream
with my rental in the community and for my
guests. I provide services and
suggestions and am in close contact
advices my guests on places to go and
things to do and places to respond spend
their money and as far as employing people
in the area to help me clean my condo if
work is being done and happen to be out
of-work needs to be down and I happen to
be out of town I have people that help me
with that so I have been in the community
for a long time and proud home owner. As
I said I'm in a condo and there's-never
been any noise safety parking or fire
issues in relation to my rental and just
one other thing, when I travel which I do
frequently when where mainly use my condo
as a rental, I prefer to stay in a hotel.
I never used airbnb hotels are my
preference and for whatever reason that is
I don't see those as being in competition.
basically so just as noted earlier my
objection to the maximum night limit on
the short-term rentals is my reason for
taking your time today. Thank you very
much for your consideration.
>> thank you.
>> brett unmute your mic and give your
comments.
>> thank you board of supervisors. I have
questions for the bae report. Is the
gentlemen still available?
>> yeah, if you direct your questions to
the board and we'll try to get those
answered.
>> great. Thank you. It follows with
supervisor gore's observation about
correlation and on the literature review
it says str activity correlate to increase
housing cost. But wouldn't that mean that
str are more prevalent in resort areas
where housing costs of course are more
expensive for example str are fewer in
modesto then they would be in north lake
tahoe? And then, another question that I
would have regarding the impacts on hotels
and I guess overall supply, has it been
taken into consideration that we have a
19.5 mile stretch from the state line at
[inaudible comments] down to tahoma post
office that we haven't built a new hotel
or motel since 1962?
>> I think that is accurate.
>> yeah. I just are wondering if that's
taken into consideration when it comes to
impacts of hotel and whether it also comes
into impacts on these ratios of short-term
rentals to the total housing stock?
sounds like he is not on the line. I
guess another observation in the
presentation would be 28 percent the
revenue of the housing stock has tot
certificate greater then zero, even if
that is the amount if the median price is
855 and we consider 855 and lower to be
achievable community housing, isn't it
just 14 percent because we dont need to
consider pertains to achievable community
housing the properties that are above 855,
correct?
>> brett, sorry I wasn't clear, what you
need to do is sort of make your questions
available to the board and we'll ask staff
including with aaron to-
>> okay.
>> to get responses.
>> okay. Great. Thank you.
>> thanks.
>> the last observation would be on the
slide that goes over str occupancy and
revenue. I are think those are pretty
accurate but what stories isn't being told
there are the costs associated with
short-term rental versus the cost
associated with the long-term rental.
short term rental needs to be finished.
the owner needs to pay for the utilities.
owner needs to pay for snow removal. The
owner is unable to deprecate the asset
over a 28 and a half year time period so
when you look at the profitability of
short-term rental and long-term rental at
855 the profitability for long-term rental
is far greater then profitability of
short-term rental by the reason people do
it it is the same thing since people have
coming here because they want to use it
and the long-term rental displaces the
whole purpose of ownership to begin with.
>> brett, one other thing just to brought
to my attention. We are in a process
where we are not making any compelling
decision today but generally provide
direction, so if we don't get answers to
your questions by the end of the hearing,
just e-mail us or contact us and we'll get
you any information we have and can get
for you.
>> great. Thank you. I know you guys are
running behind, that's it for me.
>> thank you.
>> john, go ahead and unmute your mic and
give your comments.
>> thank you john falk legislative
advocate for board of realtors. Hopefully
in receipt of 13 december 4 pages in
length flushes out the [inaudible
comments] I did want to drive in on a few
specifics and core among them is that I
served on the stakeholder group and
attended the larger town hall groups. I'm
on the town of truckee stakeholder group.
even on t r p when it was looking at str
and every instance it is a question of
looking at what we are going to do rather
then if we should be doing something so
this is happened in every instance where I
always start with I think it shouldn't be
over regulated and definitely artificial
scarcity must be avoided because we are
tourism based economy. If you want to
provide workforce housing first you need
jobs to have that workforce. And if you
rely on the existing hotels to back fill
the loss of str or limiting the str you
are going to one, lose economic viability
and two, jobs and equally important also
going to further widen the chasm between
the have and have nots because it is more
expensive to come up here whether it is to
str or to stay in a hotel or motel. We
would urge you not to engage-if you are
direct to staff in any way to not engage
in any activities that involve
artificially capping or limiting str as a
activity. Alternatively you could direct
staff to report out every year str usage
and overall economy and even workforce
housing shortage and anything done to
improve it relieve it or have exacerbate
it and that way you would be able each
year then to reconsider whether or not you
need to do something but at this point you
are getting out in front of it and when
you start to metal with economy as
delicate as ours because it is tourism
based and when you try to compare that to
urban areas not rural areas, and areas
with diverse stable economies rather then
seasonal economy comprised of primary
residents and not second homes and apply
restrictive standard you will not end up
with the same result, you end up with the
potential to do economic damage that take
years and years to undo. We urge you not
to go down that road and to end please
incentives not mandates. There are a
number of ways you can truly incentivize
people to consider especially those second
home owners that want to use their home on
occasion to lease it out or rent it out on
a semi longer term like seasonal workers
you have a number of options and have the
current suite of options in play. I did
want to make the point the county staff
both tahoe and auburn have been
outstanding being accessible responsive to
every question comment concern I put
forward so our many concerns about the
potential moving forward is is no way
reflective of any negative appraisal of
how it has been pursued in terms of
outreach to the community. I think it has
been more then outstanding, but at this
point if you are asked to give direction
as to construction of a ordinance that
would be relatively permanent in nature, I
would urge you to only do clean up things
not add caps or other limitations and ramp
up the bad actor enforcement.
>> thank you john. If you can wrap up.
thank you. Reminder we are not adopting
any ordinance today or doing anything
specific other then giving general
direction to staff before we come back in
january.
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give
your comments.
>> good afternoon board. Thank you for
the opportunity to address this topic and
to put down the snow shovel. Dan tester
granite peek management home owner
association condo hotel and individual
home rentals through the vacation rental
brand all in eastern placer county. We
are a local company. Employ local people
and face the same challenges with
[inaudible comments] I have been involve
would the short-term rental ordinance. We
have been team players and good stewards
of the community. I dismayed when the
moratorium enacted and extended as our
company have been good citizens and left a
fair amount of business on the table as a
result. Great presentation today by
staff. I am in favor of some of the items
presented and have ern cans about other.
specific to options being presented today
I think I heard condo hotels exempted and
should be exempt for several different
reason. I think that I heard this bad
actors need to be punished. Couldn't
agree more. I would support a more
aggressive approach to finding bad guest
owner and agent behavior. Dwelling repeat
offenders should have their permit revoked
and rental without a permit should be
severe so strongly support increased
enforcement. On caps, I would say that I
would prohibitively and begrudgingly
support a cap. I understand right or
wrong this is a hot button issue in the
community and we as a industry need to be
part of a compromise on this. I think we
would all need to agree on the data we are
basing these decisions on and cap number
so there is a lot of work to be done and
has to work for everyone. On the maximum
nights rented I don't support a
restriction on that. I think most owners
will choose to rent during the highest
[streaming cut out]
impact periods because that is when rates
are highest so this doesn't make a lot of
sense to me. I do support a minimum. I
don't think people who have reserved a
permit and don't use it should have a
permit. I do support different tiers for
professional property managers. As a
professional property manager we have
local staff dedicated to responding to
these issues 24/7 of the properties we
manage. We are asset managers for our
clients homes and we manage them to
professional standards. Through all this
I understand the challenge and difficulty
and finding a balance solution to this for
our community. I support reasonable
restrictions in the community for
short-term rentals. And ask you consider
the health of the local short-term rental
operating businesses and the process and
again I thank you and happy to answer any
questions if you have any.
>> thank you.
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give
your comments. Roxy, can you unmute your
mic and give your comments?
>> hi. I might not be able to talk for
long but wanted to say thank you for
today. I know it has been long process
for you guys. But I just wanted to say
that the long-term rental market in lake
tahoe has always been very difficult for
myself. I started with glen martin at
remax property with vicky singleton and
renee. We managed over 250 units, and it
was very difficult. It wasn't very easy,
and I think that the problem with the
maintenance on a long-term rental is-I got
my little guy here so think I have to wait
and talk another time, but I wanted to say
that because we dont have the staff up
here to maintain the long-term rentals, it
is is a difficult proposition I think you
will have moving forward to try to talk
people into doing long-term rentals. I
would love myself to turn my vacation
rental into a long-term, but it is really
difficult to maintain a long-term rental.
so, that's the first thing that I wanted
to say. And, the second thing I wanted to
say is I'm not in favor of taking away the
night-the number of nights that I can
rent. Because I donate a lot of my funds
to people who can't afford rent in the
neighborhood. So, I say like on a nightly
basis if I'm able to rent out 22 nights I
give about 6 percent of that to charity
and I give another 10 percent to people
who need to pay rent. To have lost that
income would be sad because I have to tell
them I'm unable to do that anymore and
that is something I have done with my
nightly rent for a long time. I have a
little one in my lap no I'll let you go.
I don't have enough time to talk or pull
up my notes but ip wanted to thank you for
taking your time moving slowly with the
process. I think that is really important
is take our time and keep talking about it
and try to finds solutions to the
long-term housing market. I'm all for
change but I think trying to take away
from the short-term market might be
hurtful to the people that do donate in
our community which I know there is a lot
of us that do. Thank you so much for your
time.
>> thank you.
>> go ahead and unmute and give your
comments.
>> yes. Thank you board of supervisors.
to start there is a lot of nuance in the
problem. What investment to we encourage
as a community? I am speaking to you as a
long-term home owner in the eastern part
of placer county. Cindy may or may not
remember me from the past, but I am a
retired or semi retired business owner,
and I guess I'm torn-
>> I don't know your name so how can I
remember you?
>> this is charley riley. We know each
other from your past more honorable-no,
very honorable in what you are doing.
what I guess I would say is I have been a
landlord for years and years, and this
really is a problem but I would share that
just recently retired. I had a retail
store that was based in truckee but
serviced all of the eastern part of
placer, and one thing that caused me it go
and decide at 66 it was time to retire was
that businesses need employees and
employees need housing and there is so
much cause and effect and nuance in this
that I had a quick talk with the truckee
town council years ago but I pointed out
there is a line of cars every morning from
reno going up to north star, and that's
because those workers are critically
needed but no place for them to live and
so I look at this about what we encourage
and no I'm not going to go as a $45 hour
carpenter buy a $2 million house but I can
afford a reasonably priced house but we
made those houses too good investment for
short-term rental guy and so I'm
encouraging a thoughtful balance between
not capping stuff but just saying what are
we doing what is important? Short-term
rentals what I saw from the presentation
was it reduces the available housing of
low of 28 percent to lot more. If that is
the right amount fine but we need to think
about the whole thing. I look at safe way
in tahoe city and cindy you and I get jobs
there for about as much as you are paid
for the members of the board as they are
so desperate. I am just looking at this
thing trying to be what the heck. Anyway
I like to suggest that you strongly
consider supporting the proposed ordinance
changes in your packet. I know those are
not final decisions but those are
recommendations. I read through
attachment c and thought they were fairly
reasonable in what they came up with. The
next thing I share is I e-mailed all of
you with a slight challenge I came up
with. I am moving to auburn. I will
still be in district 5, so cindy will
still hear from me but in trying to sell
me house the current moratorium actually
gave somebody living in san jose or santa
clara when I lived 20 years ago somebody
buying a house could go and get a permit
and so I had people by-passing my property
because my property wasn't as sexy as a
permit. I don't want a permit but I want
you to treat everybody with parody and
equity.
>> can you wrap up your comments?
>> at this point I support what I read in
the recommendation. I would point out the
businesses in all eastern placer need
employees. We got to be there meeting
both sides of the problem.
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give
your comments hillary.
>> hi there. My name is hillary
[inaudible comments] I sent an e-mail into
the board a few days ago. I am 33. I am
a broker in california. Also a consultant
with there department of real estate. My
mom started property management company
over 30 years ago. We manage 3 thousand
single family homes. [inaudible comments]
I bought it for the sole purpose of
bringing my children to truckee because it
was a place I grew up and I wanted to
expose them to that as well. So, the
other thing about that is I rent it out
for a living because it is a passive
source of income.
[captioning will continue in a moment.]
>> doesn't have parking spaces to support
that and so the rest of the neighborhood
gets to participate in that with no
accompany profit. Also, the landlord or
vrbo enacts a 500 fine for non compliance.
that goes to the property owner as profit.
>> if you can wrap up your comments.
>> I do support the efforts to increase
the penalties for non compliance and to
increase communication to report non
compliance. I would support that and I
also support your efforts in trying to
look at this problem, see for what it is I
make the changes required so we can all
live here happily and I appreciate your
time.
>> brian unmute your mic and give
comments.
>> this is brian donnelly and own a condo
in north star and been [inaudible
comments] think north star needs to be
[inaudible comments] from these rules
thing in north star. Condos single family
homes, whether they are managed
professionally, whether they are
individually or by the owner. I think
that it is intellectually dishonest
talking about my condo across the street
from the fair station as housing stock.
it isn't housing stock. It was built in
1973. It is pretty poor construction. It
was meant to be a second home/ski rental.
when it was built. It was built inside a
ski resort. It was not built next to
elementary school. It isn't a
neighborhood. This is a resort and
survives on short term rentals to ski
[inaudible comments] and so it is really
important that we be intellectually honest
about the fact I will never rent my unit
to a will you local working there because
that takes away my ability to use it which
is why I bought inside a ski resort in the
first place so this is not housing stock.
[inaudible comments] coming up and talking
about housing stock, I think that there is
a desired result by certain staff and then
they are working backwards to justify and
back fill that result. But if we are
going to be honest, my unit is not housing
stock, and so I just hope that people are
going to acknowledge that one size does
not fit all here and that we do need to
look at neighborhoods and treat them
differently. What might be a nuisance for
a family that has school aged children
[inaudible comments] up in the north star
village. It is the same exact act but it
does matter where it occurs and so I hope
that we can honest conversation about the
fact one size does not fit all the entire
eastern placer county. Thank you.
>> please unmute your mic and give your
comments.
>> hi. I lake to say that we own a home
in chamberland, our second home and we do
not feel that limiting short-term rentals
will allow for-
>> excuse me, could you state your name
for the record, please?
>> lisa [inaudible comments] and ed
[inaudible comments]
>> thank you.
>> we don't feel limiting short-term
rentals will solve the problem that the
board is looking as the major problem
which is allowing long-term rentals for
workers. The pricing in the neighborhood
has gone through the roof and limiting
short-term rentals in our view is just
going to basically make tahoe a
millionaire playground where mow average
person can come and rent for a week, and I
do support you know, regulations in terms
of like non compliance and you know,
penalty and you know, fining people that
disobey the ordinances like the quite time
and the garbage and do feel for the last
speaker that says it does rely on the
local community to report violators. That
seems there could be more outreach so that
that could be fixed, but I really don't
think that the primary problem of housing
workers is going to be solved by limiting
short-term rental especially in
chamberland and that is all I have to say.
thank you.
>> thank you.
>> go ahead and unmute and give your
comments.
>> hi. My name is [inaudible comments] we
own a place in north star which we bought
in july. We are in a pretty [inaudible
comments] we bought our place a week
before the [inaudible comments] and we did
not anticipate [inaudible comments] we are
kind of stuck between a rock and hard
place because we were working with a
property manager to figure out how to rent
it and get a permit and everything and
then this came in, so what one comment I
have is to consider people like us who are
not anticipating this to happen a
regulation like this doesn't happen over
night, but while this one did, so I would
really appreciate if that is considered
and whether we have a limit or not to have
exemptions for folks like me who are not
planning for this. If the str are not
available and buying a new case I would
consider this but this is million plus
dollar properties and it caused a lot of
hardship for because it happened so
suddenly.
>> samir, unmute your mic and give your
comments.
>> good afternoon samir north lake tahoe
resort association. Just want to run
through points. Over the course of the
last couple months as the ordinance has
been being discussed I spent a lot of time
certainly nothing close to what supervisor
gustafson spent but spent a lot of time
talking to different constituents and
different groups including local
businesses, community members, str
operators hotel, the resort association
board and sometimes getting stopped on the
street by locals and want to have a chat
about this. And I just have a few
observations. I think there is a lot of
support and a lot of consistent discussion
regarding the nuisance and public safety
issue and think a lot of what you focused
on and talk about needs to be implemented
and think there is broad support for that.
there may be tailoring or things that need
to be done there but I think where the
real diversity of views shows up is with
respect to how if at all does this impact
housing prices and housing availability.
there is a wide wide range of requests or
possible solutions here on the one end is
do nothing change nothing and just allow
it to function the way it is. On the
other hand I heard discussion regarding
voter initiative that would be very
similar to what happened in south lake
tahoe and that could be really
catastrophic for the industry and for the
community and those types of limitations
would just create enormous problems and
the problems everybody has been talking
about today on both side. Even within the
various groups I have been talking to for
example on the resort association board or
the short-term rental operators there is a
diversity of views in terms of what if
anything should be done by way of caps.
again, some say caps are fine, caps need
to happen, some say don't cap anything at
all. So, one thing the resort association
is doing is convening discussions with
some of the short-term rental operators
with county staff with board members and
other local business owners to try to see
if there is some middle ground or some
sort of compromise people can live with.
I will ask that there was a letter that
came from the short-term rental operators
asking for data. I know some of that has
been provided and I know staff is working
to respond to other components of the
letter and really appreciate the
transparency that comes about with result
of those disclosure. And then I think
finally someone made a comment this would
be permanent and don't think any way shape
or form it needs to be permanent. I think
there is a lot of opportunity for it being
of a fixed period of time analysis and
review and that sort of thing. I think
the notion it would be permanent is
overstated and think what would be
necessary with any changes here is they be
evaluated on a regular basis against fixed
criteria. Thank you very much for your
time.
>> unmute your mic and give your comments.
>> hi. Can you hear me?
>> yes.
>> hi. Wonderful. Hi everybody. First
of all, thank you very much for your time
and for all the efforts you put into it.
it is a really complicated issue. My name
is [inaudible comments] and my family just
bought second home in dutch flat and we
experience similar issue. We are not able
to rent it because we are can't get a
permit and that is a huge financial
hardship [inaudible comments] as many
people say, I want it to be working well
for everybody for all the neighbors who
live there so for this reason there needs
to be regulations, but if we don't get
permits we won't be renting it long-term.
we just definitely don't want to do that.
it isn't something that we envisioned, we
live in san jose in condo with two kids we
cant afford a house in our area so that
was our dream to live in a house and the
only way to afford it was up there. The
permits moratorium is not an ideal
situation. Rather there should be some
process that you can apply for the permit
and maybe pass an exam which educate you
as a property owner how to take care
of-how to manage your renters. How to
follow the rules. How to be a responsible
for community. And also if keep
moratorium in place people will find ways
to rent it. I prefer to pay fees to make
it fully legal and be responsible but not
being able to rent at all. There is
something to consider to maybe educate
those who get permits rather then limit
permits. That's all I wanted to say.
thank you very much.
>> thank you.
>> cathy please unmite your mic and give
your comments.
>> thank you. My name is cathy fairbanks
and I live in sacramento and in 2019 I
purchased a condo in tahoe city. I didn't
start doing short-term rentals until late
july this year and in october I submitted
my first payment for the second quarter
for the transit occupancy tax. I missed-I
am working so missed the presentation and
coming into this late but I did want to
lay out a couple of thoughts that I had
and things to keep in mind as this process
moves forward and thank you for giving me
a opportunity to speak. I agree there
should be structure around the short-term
rental permit process and the situation in
tahoe, but I think what I'm hearing and
what I'm seeing and experienced is really
a problem with like three things I would
say, bad actors who we all attacked about
and everyone I heard agrees that we need
to do something to address habitual bad
actors and I would be in favor of that.
I'll not in favor of capping the permits
or capping the number of nights until
perhaps there is more study and everyone
is firm on how the market is working in
tahoe. One thing I haven't heard talked
about much though is the tax revenue that
this brings in and maybe I missed this in
part of the presentation.
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>> I think that can help alleviate traffic
and looking forward to using that.
affordable housing is a huge issue and not
just in tahoe it is everywhere in
california. This isn't just because of
short-term rentals the tahoe area has a
housing affordability problem. There is a
problem but it is all over the state.
developers aren't not incent vised to
build housing without subsidy from local
government. It doesn't pencil out and
that is one thing we need to consider as
it relates to short-term rentals and to
the ability to the extent they can help
subsidize additional affordable housing.
thank you.
>> thank you.
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give
your comments.
>> hi. Thanks. Phillip welch I shared
last time on this. My family purchased a
house and hoping to rent it but my
comments are on the workforce housing
portion of this. I fully agree with
supervisor gore that I don't think this is
going to effect prices. We have a perfect
case study in south lake study. Measure t
husband been effect 12 months now and the
prices haven't gone down if you look at
zillow it isn't effecting it, so I hate
for us to be pursuing this as a solution
for problem and waiting for a couple years
to see did this fix it, wait it didn't fix
this at all. So that is one thought. The
other thought I noticed in the written
document on the update to the ordinance
mentioned of future hotel developments and
economic viability of that being
challenged by this and I'm concerned we
are thinking of that instead of thinking
why can't we build long-term workforce
housing that isn't rentable? Instead of
hotels we have small hotels now.
short-term rentals and people like using
them. Why worry about the economic
viability of something not economically
viable anymore? Thank you. And recollect
chairman no further public comment.
>> thanks megan. So, with that, again,
first thing I want to ask is if there are
any questions or comments that staff would
like to address or clarify noting also we
will be coming back so there's ample time
to respond to individuals if they get in
touch with us but might be low hanging
fruit you want to address before we go
farther.
>> I think I would just mention to mr.
williams a lot of comments to unpack and
welcome a follow up conversation with him
and I think to connect with our consultant
on a more detailed level. That was one
thing I had written down.
>> I wanted to respond to the women that
spoke in dutch plat the ordinance does not
apply to dutch flat area so welcome
her-she can e-mail me and further discuss.
>> generally anyone who wants to remain on
the board would be happy to get responses
back to you and help out particularly with
information as we move to our january
date. So with that, again keeping in mind
that staff is seeking from us some
feedback related to help them craft more
specifically what will be on the table in
january and with that I'm going to give to
cindy and then suzanne.
>> thank you. I really appreciate the
time today and I know it is late in the
day and we spent a lot of time discussing
this and all staffs work. I would ask
that bae site the literature on the
inflation value on the housing. When
people can earn $35 thousand a average and
up to hundreds of thousands of dollars on
short-term rental it is inflating the
housing market and the evidence is there
and they mentioned but let's cite those
that literature. I sent you literature.
I have been researching there is many
documents studies on it let's make sure
all the board members have that and the
public has that. Option d which I like to
put forward on the numerical cap would
mean some level of what we have existing
plus a small addition and I'm not sure
what that is to incorporate those on the
waiting list that were caught in the
middle of this moratorium and those that
have who want to rent. I think I want to
see turnover, I want to see availability
of thesis and like to consider that
option. Many other-every other
jurisdiction in the basin has some of
restriction and if we lift this with no
cap I'm concerned and I'll argue about
that later but concerned as to what then
continues to happen. I don't care for the
maximum nights rented I do like minimum
nights. If be are going to cap we must
make sure they are used so we can
immediately take them back and get them
out into the hands of people waiting for
them. I told you already about the
waiting period. I totally agree and
forgot to mention this earlier on the