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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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united states of america and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation,

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under god, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> what was the other item?

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>> 15g and h.

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>> okay.

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>> and then 20c.

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>> is there anyone else who would like to

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have a item pulled from consent and please

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come forward and make your request,

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please.

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>> I like to have 15a pulled-removed,

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please. Thank you.

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>> anyone else? Or-

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>> I move approval of whatever is

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remaining.

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[laughter]

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>> I second.

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>> probably should list those but I'm not

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going. Is there a second? Motion

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gustafson, second holmes for the few

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remaining items on consent. Roll call,

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please.

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[roll call]

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>> so we will-have to help me through

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this.

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>> [inaudible comments]

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>> item 11 and all of those, correct?

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>> I can speak to this. So, annually

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contractual agreements between each of

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your individual district aids for each of

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the supervisorial districts come before

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your board towards the end of the year.

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each of these contracts are general in

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nature for each of your individual

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district directors. Happy to answer any

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questions that might come about as a

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result of that but these are the annual

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contracts.

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>> thanks todd. Are there any questions

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by board members? Any questions or

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comments from the public?

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>> michael. Go ahead and give your

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comments.

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>> okay. Yes, sure. So, I just noticed

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the pay varied a little bit. It seemed

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the average pay was $44.30 per hour plus

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benefits. It seems kind of high to me. I

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did a search on glass door on like a admin

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assistant and that was 44k per year and

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this is base salary looks more around $92

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thousand if I calculated correctly, plus

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benefits. I guess-I'm always looking for

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lower taxes I guess and I was wondering

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like why is the pay so high? That's all.

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>> anyone else from the public wish to

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address this item? Seeing none, what is

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the pleasure of the beard?

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>> I think it would be good to clarify or

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answer the question because these are

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at-will employees so they are not like the

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rest of our employees that have the

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opportunity of being in the employee union

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and their jobs are at will. The other

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thing is, they are not -even though it

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says [inaudible comments] they are not

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administrative assistant. The do the bulk

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of our work, they help us analyze the

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board packets, they help address

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constituent issues. They are basically

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our right hand person because in addition

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to our board meetings we have a multitude

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of issues to address and other committee

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assignments so this is really a higher

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level position. I certainly understand

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your question michael and appreciate it,

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but actually some of these folks are close

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to making more then the supervisors.

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>> some of them are making more then the

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board of supervisors and I can do 5 or 6

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hours on that, but I'm not going to

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because I'm in a good mood today so far.

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>> you want to add anything else todd?

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>> I will say when we do these pay scales

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h r actually does analysis and looks at

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comparable positions and again I think as

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you alluded to, a lot of diversity and

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variety and honesty the skill sets are

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different then maybe what we have been

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looking for in a normal administrative

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position in the county and so, they are

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utilized in various fashions the

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complexity of job duties [inaudible

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comments] we do look at job complexity and

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classifications when we look at

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compensation for these positions.

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>> chip.

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>> additionally, particularly during the

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last two years, the administrative aids or

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district directors spend inordinate amount

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of time going through all the e-mail we

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received, returning calls, explaining what

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the county's position is on issues and

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putting them in touch with departments

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that they need referrals from or help with

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like building department or planning

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department or health and human service.

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they are able to connect these folks with

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the people that can help them with what

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their issue is. I don't know about the

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rest of my colleagues, but I spend about

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45 minutes every morning going over my

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e-mails and many times it is most of the

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time it is deleting and if there is a

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issue that needs to be addressed right

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away I make sure my district director

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knows about it. Right now we are in this

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board meeting and she can respond to the

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issue in question so they dedicate a lot

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of time throughout their job work day but

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also many times after work.

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>> bonnie, your light is still on.

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suzanne.

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>> yes, good morning everyone. I also

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wanted to add in there that our district

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directors are-they are way more then just

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an assistant. They doa lot of things for

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us. They represent us. They deal with

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our constituents first hand. They call,

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they return calls. In fact they accompany

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us everywhere. I have gone on many

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walking tours in my district. My district

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director goes with me everywhere. They

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are responsible for our mac meetings for

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the mac board members, the mac agendas.

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they are responsible for articles our news

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letters online, and they also work-we work

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way more then 40 hours a week. They

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accompany us everywhere, nights, evenings,

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weekends, so they kind of give up their

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family life just like we do. I just

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wanted to let you know that that we-they

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carry a big load. In fact what you see up

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here is each of us and we have a district

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director, that is our entire staff. I

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think we all do pretty good job. Anyway,

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they work very hard for us. Thanks.

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>> cindy.

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>> I just can't go without saying

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something since everybody-I agree with

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everything that everyone else has said.

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our district aids and district directors

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are essential to getting back to

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constituents, and are solving problems

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with our county staff knowing who to know

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to, who to ask the questions, so they are

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invaluable, they have great abilities and

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also to speak on our behalf at times when

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we cant be everywhere everyone wants us so

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I guess it is our morning to thank our

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incredible staff that work for us and all

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the work they do.

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>> I'll just add one short thing which is

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my view in placer county is that I always

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wanted to try to attract the best and

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brightest. Pretty simple. You try to

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figure what that market cost is like any

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other job and we have a h r department who

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does that for us and I think the rest is

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logically just follows from that. So, is

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there anyone from the public who would

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like to address this issue?

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>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give

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your comments. Vinny, can you unmute your

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mic and give your comments? Sheryl, go

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ahead and unmute your mic and give your

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comments.

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>> hi, good morning, sheryl [inaudible

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comments] granite bay. I had a question

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about-there seemed to be a it related item

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under one of the district I believe it was

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district 1 position. It seems to be not

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in the correct place. I believe that it

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has a budget and that would have been an

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it budgeting item. Not sure why district

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1 has a greater need for website and it

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related expenses so if someone can answer

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that I would appreciate it.

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>> I actually don't see that. We'll have

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somebody take a look at that and see if

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they can-none of us can see any

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difference. Anyone else? Okay. I'll

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bring it back to the board and if somebody

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would make a motion-

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>> move a-

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>> specifically item 11a through g then

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we'll be compliant.

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>> as corrected, mr. Chair.

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>> thank you. Motion gustafson, second

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holmes, all in favor say aye. Opposed?

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motion carries. And now we'll go to 15a.

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I'm not familiar with this item. Could

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>> my understanding is we were up here to

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respond to questions but as the board

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member and viewing public are aware, this

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is culmination of the year long

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redistricting effort both with follow on

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to the november 30 and december 7 board

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discussion at which we had hours of public

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input and testimony that culminated with

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the action to approve redistricting hybrid

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map alternative 2.0 option 1.

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>> clayton you do this bert then me.

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>> I also note the request is to adopt

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resolution approving that alternative

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hybrid 2.0 option 1 and there are findings

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contained in the resolution and the second

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action item is to adopt the ordinance

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introduced by your board and oral reading

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was waved at the last meeting.

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>> and therefore required a second reading

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the first of which occurred a week ago

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last tuesday?

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>> thanks. Anyone from the public wish to

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address this item?

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>> thank you chair and supervisors. Funny

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I get nervous talking to you but can pitch

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in front of 5 thousand people. Again, my

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name a anthony [inaudible comments]

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resident of placer conte since [inaudible

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comments] 4 years ago I bought [inaudible

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comments] and farming it ever since. I

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wanted to pull this map because I believe

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this map was not truly wanted by all of

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you and pushed by a small group of people

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that did not truly represent the majority

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of 400 thousand residents. Shows

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segregation between cities and rural

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communities especially district 3. As

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resident of rockland and farmer in penryn

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this gives close connection to the

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ag community and [inaudible comments]

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along are resident in rockland. I feel

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this is happening because days after the

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map was voted on by all you pleny with

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reservation I had many resident of the

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ag community approach me public places

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like the post office or stopping by

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[inaudible comments] to say thank you for

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standing up for us. We feel like we were

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separated in the loomis basis for gain of

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rockland city council. A few who spoke in

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from rockland do not represent all

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district 3 but seem to have the loudest

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voice. I have spoken to many resident

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some knowing about redistricting and many

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who had no idea. But when I asked would

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you rather have one supervisor or two the

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answer I heard the most is it it not

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better to have two sets of eyes looking

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out then one? I noticed those who pushed

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to have rockland as a whole by themselves

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do not live in district 3. Now with this

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map it places those who spoke the loudest

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in district 3. It seems this is a

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political move by the city council to have

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all of their homes in district 3 giving

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the opportunity to run for supervisor in

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next election for district 3. Looking

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like it was the best interest of them and

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not the people of district 3. But the

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only way to prove this is to see in the

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future if these council members run for

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this position. Now this map continues to

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go forward this takes jim holmes out of

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his district. That being said, if he is

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no longer able to run I announce today I

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will run for his position. Thank you.

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>> thank you. Anyone else from the

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public?

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>> good morning chairman weygandt.

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supervisors. Karen and todd. I didn't

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have prepared remarks because I was hoping

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this was going to pass on through but that

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isn't happening. I want to tell how

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grateful I am the decision you made last

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time. You were listening to the public.

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now, is the map perfect? None of them

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were, but what we were trying to do and

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think all of you were trying to do as well

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as the staff is at the end of the process

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we had as few unhappy as we can get and

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think we did with the public map put

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together. I appreciate-anthony's

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comments. I understand that placer county

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is changing. The dynamics are changes,

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particularly in the western part of the

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county. Agricultural is getting small,

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but I'm thankful for the pccp you passed

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earlier that is going to protect a lot of

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that agricultural ground in the western

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part of the county so I think that going

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forward agricultural will always have a

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pretty good place at the table here in

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placer county. I can speak as one who

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grew up in agricultural in placer county.

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I'm nearly a 70 year resident of placer

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county and I'm honored to be here. I'm

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honored to be fighting for what is right

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for this county and so again I am very

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grateful for your decision and thank you

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for what you have done and what you

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continue to do for the residents of placer

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county.

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>> thank you. Anyone else from the public

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like to address this item? With that ill

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bring it back to the board.

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>> I'll certainly second that unless

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there's any other conversation but happy

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to second the item.

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>> motion jones, second gore. Cindy has

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her light on.

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>> thanks mr. Chair. I want to say to

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both gentlemen who spoke to us today, your

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service to placer county residents is

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greatly appreciated. There was no

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perspective solution here and as you know,

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I was not supportive of our final action.

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I stand unified with my board because I

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think that is the right thing to do when

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majority rules we come together to

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represent the people of this county and

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just want to assure you that while I may

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agree or disagree with the map our job is

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to representative of all the constituents

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in the best way possible and know and said

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at both of the previous meetings all our

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board members do that with all their good

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intentions and I-there was no perfect map

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that didn't have some level of separating

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communities or putting them together, and

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I sitting in district 5 I can tell you, we

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heard the least from my district because

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we were all aware. The 5th district was

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growing and going down the hill and I only

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see that happening further in the future.

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it's incumbent on all of us to make sure

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we represent all the great interest of

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this county because that is what makes it

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such a great county. Thank you.

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>> all those in favor say aye. Opposed?

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motion carries. Thank you. We'll now

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take up I think item 15c.

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>> good morning chair weygandt members of

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the board. Vanessa ceo office. This is

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my first item pulled so I prepared a brief

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overview of your item and then we have

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department representation here to answer

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any questions you have. Background on the

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item the item is a resolution to accept

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and make findings per government code 66

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thousand on our annual development impact

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fee report. So, ceo takes this

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consolidated item annually in december on

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behalf of our department impact fee

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programs as well as the programs we manage

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here in the ceo office. Something to note

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is that this does not increase any of our

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impact fees, this is just reporting and

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those increases come as separate items

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from this report. Per government code 66

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thousand the annual report must contained

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specified information that includes the

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type and fee amount, the beginning and

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ending balance, fees collected, interest

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earned, improvements funded as well as

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anticipated start date of construction.

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our impact fee program is being reported

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that meet the definition per government

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code 66 thousand are the followings: our

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capital facilities impact fee, fire

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facility impact fee, parks and

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recreational facilities impact fee, county

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wide traffic fee program, city county

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traffic fee program, riolo vineyard

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specific plan fee program, placer vineyard

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specific plan, placer conservation program

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[inaudible comments] affordable housing

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fee and employee accommodation fee

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program. That concludes the background.

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we have department representatives on

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zoom, here in person and happy to answer

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questions you have.

402
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>> thanks vanessa. First time you get

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consent item pulled and this is my last

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meeting at the board of supervisors.

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>> I love it. I feel very special.

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>> both happy. Any board members-suzanne.

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>> yes. Good morning vanessa. Thank you

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for coming. I had some concerns not my

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concerns but constituents concerns and

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they were wondering what is the difference

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between the impact fees and tree

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mitigation fees? Ej.

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>> going to bring up my subject matter

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expert.

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>> that was way too easy. Ej [inaudible

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comments] planning service division.

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placer county conversation plan is adopted

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fee program. We also have the oak

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woodland ordinance, which was previously

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our tree preservation ordinance and upon

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adoption of the placer county conservation

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plan that moved to chapter 19 of county

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code. So we have a oak woodland ordinance

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that applies to tree permits discretionary

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permits outside the pccp area, but it is

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not a adopted fee program. It provides

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for on-site tree replanting, market rate

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mitigation. We are going to update that

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ordinance hopefully next year, probably

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take the better part of next year. There

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will be a robust outreach component as

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part of that so that will obviously go to

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the mac, planning commission, board of

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supervisors, so hopefully that answers

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your question.

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>> that does. That helps a lot. Could

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you just give a little more information,

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what is a impact fee? I know this is all

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dictated by government code 66,000.

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>> I'm not sure I'm the best person to

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answer that. Development impact fee for

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transit, transportation, infrastructure

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associated associated with development

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projects. Capital facilities. Park and

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recreation facilities.

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>> so that means the development whatever

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we are developing is the impact that is

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going to have on these various things?

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>> and guaranteeing the county will get

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comp compensated for those facilities.

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>> how and when are they updated? Are

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they updated annually?

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>> they are updated annually. Each

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program we adopted has some sort of

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coordinating cci or cpi so that-so for the

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capital facilities impact fee I brought

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that the end of september and goes into

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effect 60 days after adoption so those are

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brought separately. Some of the programs

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we also take a consolidated item around

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april. This is a fire facility fee and

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specific plan fee programs. It just are

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depends on how the ordinance is written on

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when those come back annually but we also

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do another consolidated item for those.

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>> okay. And are then this talks about

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the fees that the actual fees that are

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collected and then how they are spent and

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handled. Is that all for the public to

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review and look at?

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>> absolutely. So, we have the report as

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an attachment to this which also includes

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the reporting of fees, the items I listed

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that have to be included per government

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code but also on file we have the fee

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program information, so that is the actual

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fee program that we brought for adoption

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that we maintain.

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>> okay.

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>> our department maintains.

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>> great. Thank you so much.

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>> absolutely. Thank you.

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>> anyone from the public wish to comment

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on this item?

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>> sheryl, please unmute your mic and give

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your comments.

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>> thank you very much. Thank you suzanne

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jones for bringing this up. We actually

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brought this up for many years in district

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4. I am not sure I agree with the

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assessment of the fees. The pccp not only

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does it not cover in land mass other areas

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so the fact that you are collecting

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mitigation fees for pools and tree and oak

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woodlands and only doing it within a

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certain area of land it is still the same

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thing. Also, projects approved prior to

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2020 when the pccp was approved are not

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covered. Yearly there is a cadence where

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I believe it was last week the developer

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fees were increased. I didn't see the

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tree mitigation fees increased. Housing

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fees are increased. I see no reporting.

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I would suggest this report is incomplete.

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it does not cover tree mitigation for

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anything not in the pccp and many of the

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development agreements that have been

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reached prior to 2020. Every time a

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development goes in, there was a nexus

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study that was done that clearly shows

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there was an appeal with rancho [inaudible

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comments] with 4 thousand oak trees that

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should have been covered by increased

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fees. Those fees have not been increased

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I believe for years and years and years.

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well beyond what steve pedretti was

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charged with managing so I think it is a

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incomplete report. I think it should have

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a line item just like pccp. There should

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be a tree ordinance and there also was-the

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nexus study shows those fees are

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insufficient so hope you will consider

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actually looking at those fees not a year

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from now. Every time trees are taken out

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it is actually encouraging trees to be

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taken out. I also like to point out that

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at the legal of women voters when cindy

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gustafson and suzanne was there and

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supervisor uhler was there there was a

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system that kept track of all these tree

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mitigation fees, we asked for this

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multiple times. We don't know where the

533
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tree mitigation fees are going and why

534
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they are so low so hope you will please

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address this as incomplete item and

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something that needs to be taken care of

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because it is state law that this is

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managed yearly and I believe that you are

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breaking the state law by not providing

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those fees. Thank you.

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>> county counsel.

542
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>> there seems to be some confusion here

543
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and hopefully I don't make it more

544
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,200
confusing. But there is a difference

545
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,602
between a impact development impact fee,

546
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,602
which is governed by government code 6600,

547
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,200
and those impact fees are developed and

548
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,200
adopted by this board after public

549
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,200
hearings in which a nexus study must be

550
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,200
prepared and it must be established that

551
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,802
the fee relates to the impact. That is

552
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,200
why they are called development impact

553
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,200
fees.

554
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,200
[streaming cut out]

555
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,402
you will often see in eir or deg dec

556
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,200
payment of a impact fee will in fact

557
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,200
mitigate a particular impact. We see that

558
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,200
quite a bit for transportation, however,

559
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,200
you can't confuse that with mitigation.

560
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,200
in some instances we do have fees for

561
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,200
mitigation and one of them is ej mentioned

562
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,200
is the oak tree or pardon me, the tree

563
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,200
ordinance. That's a mitigation fee, it is

564
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200
not a development impact fee, so I

565
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,200
respectfully disagree with mrs. [inaudible

566
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,200
comments] that there is anything that is

567
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,200
incomplete about this particular study.

568
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,200
the study took everyone of the development

569
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,200
impact fees this county implemented and

570
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,200
reporting as required under the government

571
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,200
code.

572
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,602
>> thanks karen. Going to add clarity,

573
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200
there is a huge amount of

574
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,200
miscommunication, but the tree ordinance

575
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,200
and mitigation that started in placer

576
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,602
county-got to back 20, 25 years as I

577
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,802
recall, the pccp of course is a completely

578
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200
different animal and we adopted it about a

579
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,602
year ago, and it essentially shifts

580
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,200
federal and state authority for green

581
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,200
field impacts on protected environmental

582
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
properties from the federal state

583
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
government down to the local level. A

584
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,802
part of our program includes an in lieu

585
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,200
fee so somebody going through that

586
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200
application process will have the

587
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200
flexibility to provide mitigation that is

588
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,200
required or they can pay a fee or they can

589
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,200
do a combination of these things so it is

590
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,200
unique in the country. Has to be done in

591
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,200
placer county and those fees are reviewed

592
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,202
annually in their looked at in 5 year

593
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,200
windows and that is a part of the contract

594
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,200
we have with the state and federal

595
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,200
agencies in that regard. I think that is

596
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,200
really important for the public to

597
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,200
understand generally. Suzanne, do you

598
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,200
have something?

599
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,200
>> make a motion for approval.

600
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,200
>> okay.

601
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,200
>> second.

602
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,200
>> motion and second. All in favor say

603
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,602
aye. Opposed? Motion carries. And now

604
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,200
15e.

605
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,200
>> 15e chairman is just being moved off

606
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,200
the agenda to a future meeting date.

607
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,200
>> that's right. 15e is being-going to be

608
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,200
put back on future agenda under consent

609
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,402
and so that takes us to 18a I think.

610
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,200
>> no, we have 15g and h both requested to

611
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,200
be pulled by michael.

612
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,200
>> 15g, thanks megan.

613
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,200
>> of course.

614
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200
>> good morning members of the board.

615
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,200
stephanie holloway with your tahoe ceo

616
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,200
office to talk to you about the two items

617
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,200
that were pulled from consent. So, both

618
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,200
of these items are resolution for renaming

619
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,602
of [inaudible comments] in the olympic

620
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,200
valley area so squaw valley municipal

621
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,200
advisory committee and design review

622
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,200
committee. We have been working with the

623
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,802
washoe tribe in the area and private and

624
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,602
federal entities to rename assets that

625
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,200
contain the word squaw. I will mention

626
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,200
just a track record here, the olympic

627
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,200
valley public service district so the

628
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,200
squaw valley public service district as

629
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,200
previously named did rename their

630
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,200
organization back in august of 2020 as

631
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,200
well as the ski resort in this area now

632
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
named palisades tahoe has adopted the

633
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,200
olympic valley base area as their name, so

634
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,200
this is just two committees of your board

635
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,200
we like you to consider. I will mention

636
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
we are working with the washoe tribe as

637
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
well as the community on a number of

638
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200
additional assets. Three public roads in

639
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,200
the area as well as the public park

640
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,200
considering renaming of those assets as

641
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,200
well and those will be hopefully coming

642
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,200
before your board early next year. Happy

643
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,200
to answer any questions.

644
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,200
>> thanks stephanie. Anyone from the

645
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,200
public?

646
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,200
>> [inaudible comments]

647
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,200
>> he did.

648
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,200
>> [inaudible comments]

649
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
>> michael, did you have any comments you

650
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,200
wanted to give on these?

651
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,200
>> no, I think I understand.

652
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,200
>> okay.

653
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,200
>> [inaudible comments]

654
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,602
>> motion gustafson, second gore. All in

655
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,200
favor aye. Opposed? Motion carries. If

656
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,200
my notes are correct that takes to 18a.

657
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,200
>> can we clarify on the prior motion it

658
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,200
was for both items 15g and 15h?

659
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,602
>> yes, thanks megan. Yeah. So, 18a,

660
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,200
placer housing authority.

661
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,602
>> chairman, because it is removed off

662
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,200
consent the board needs to adjourn as the

663
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,200
board of supervisors and convene as the

664
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,200
placer county housing authority.

665
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,200
>> thank you. So, the board adjourns as

666
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,200
placer county board of supervisors and

667
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,202
reconvenes as the housing authority and is

668
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,200
someone here to present that or on zoom or

669
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,200
somewhere?

670
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,200
>> [inaudible comments]

671
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,200
>> thanks.

672
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,200
>> good morning.

673
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,200
>> good morning.

674
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,200
>> greg dicer, placer county deputy

675
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,200
director of health and human services and

676
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,200
housing authority executive director. I

677
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,200
am here for your board today to request

678
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,200
that the board adopt resolution approving

679
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,200
the temporary policy supplement for

680
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,200
emergency housing vouchers to accept and

681
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,200
distribute the vouchers and sign related

682
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,200
documentation and submit to the u.s.

683
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,200
department of housing and urban

684
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,200
development, hud, and accepting

685
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,402
distribution of 9 family unification

686
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,200
program vouchers and 26 emergency housing

687
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,200
vouchers, ehv. The background on the

688
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,200
item, on april 27 earlier this year the

689
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,200
placer county housing authority accepted

690
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,200
the updated placer county housing

691
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,200
authority annual administrative plan

692
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,200
update and signed civil rights

693
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,200
certification of compliance with the

694
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,200
housing authority plans and related

695
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,602
regulations and submitted all documents to

696
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,200
hud. In july of this year a temporary

697
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,200
policy supplement was released which made

698
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,402
available additional vouchers available

699
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,200
under the placer county housing

700
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,200
authority's plan adopted earlier in april

701
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,200
and hud also in july of this year awarded

702
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,200
the housing authority 9 family unification

703
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,200
vouchers to serve parents with children to

704
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,200
child welfare and former foster youth.

705
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,200
the placer county seeks [inaudible

706
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,200
comments] to distribute grant vouchers

707
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,200
under this program. The housing authority

708
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,200
is partnering with the children system of

709
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,200
care to distribute these vouchers. All is

710
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,200
no fiscal impact in the matter because the

711
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,200
vouchers are already available from hud

712
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,200
and hud provides funding for

713
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,602
administration of the program. And I'll

714
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,200
be happy to answer any questions.

715
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
>> thank you. Suzanne.

716
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,200
>> yes, good morning. Thank you for that

717
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,200
report. I wanted a little bit of

718
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,200
clarification for my constituents on the

719
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,200
housing vouchers. This is not related to

720
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,200
any of our covid programs in the past, is

721
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,200
it?

722
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,200
>> no. You might be referencing the

723
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,200
emergency rental assistance. These two

724
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200
programs are--the vouchers existed before

725
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,200
and before covid came into being. The

726
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200
emergency housing vouchers are for

727
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,602
specific populations, but they are not

728
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,402
specifically related to covid.

729
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,200
>> so, how does the program work then?

730
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,200
>> so, the fup vouchers they serve

731
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,602
families that are in reunification through

732
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,200
child welfare and or that might be at risk

733
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,202
of having children removed due to housing

734
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,200
instability. And they work just like our

735
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,602
normal housing choice vouchers accept for

736
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,200
they are specific to that population, so

737
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,200
the household receives a voucher if they

738
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,200
are determined to be eligible and able to

739
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,802
go out into the community and rent an

740
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,200
apartment or home much like any of us

741
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,202
would and we supplement their rent through

742
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,200
the voucher. It also serves former foster

743
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,200
youth, so former foster youth under the

744
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,602
age of 25 that are determined eligible

745
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,200
essentially can do the same thing, take

746
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,200
the voucher to any landlord that rents out

747
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,802
a unit and take-and move into the unit

748
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,200
with having that supplemented. The

749
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,200
emergency housing voucher are specific to

750
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,200
populations such as those escaping

751
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,200
domestic violence and are trafficking and

752
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,200
that are at risk of homelessness or are

753
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,602
homeless, and those vouchers we work

754
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
through the-a number of our community

755
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,200
partners and through the continuum of care

756
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,602
to receive referrals, both programs come

757
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,200
with some supportive services and case

758
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,200
management.

759
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,200
>> okay, so that means most of these

760
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,200
people eligible that already are working

761
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,200
with the system here in placer county?

762
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,200
>> correct.

763
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,200
>> if there are people out there who would

764
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200
qualify who don't know about the program

765
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,200
is it something where they can contact the

766
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,202
county? Maybe adult system of care or

767
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,200
something like that sph

768
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,200
>> they are welcome to contact us in

769
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,200
essence. The referrals for the emergency

770
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,602
housing vouchers go through 211, so the

771
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,202
place for anyone to start would be 211.

772
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,200
>> okay. Great.

773
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,200
>> with regard to the fup voucher more

774
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,200
specific because a family has to be

775
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,200
working with child welfare or former

776
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,200
foster youth would have to be verified as

777
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,200
being a former foster youth through

778
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,402
children system of care.

779
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,200
>> thank you for the information. Very

780
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,200
helpful.

781
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,200
>> anyone from the public wish to address

782
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,200
this item?

783
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,200
>> stephen, go ahead and unmute and give

784
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,200
your comments.

785
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,200
>> good morning this is stephen pres

786
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,200
caught from kings beach. Just curious how

787
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,200
much is in that program for housing

788
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,200
vouchers of placer county and what is the

789
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,200
average amount of the voucher per person?

790
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,200
>> are you asking how many vouchers? We

791
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,200
have 26 of the emergency housing vouchers

792
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,602
and 10 of the-sorry, 9 of the fup

793
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,200
vouchers. I am sorry I don't know

794
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,602
off-hand the average amount used per

795
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,202
voucher, but those are the number of

796
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,200
vouchers that we have.

797
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,200
>> so, that is only for 35 families?

798
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,200
>> correct.

799
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,602
>> okay. Okay. What's the average amount

800
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,200
per voucher that they get to pay

801
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,200
landlords?

802
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,200
>> again, I don't have the average amount.

803
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,200
I can see if I can find that but generally

804
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,200
speaking the amount that is paid towards

805
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,202
landlords first and foremost the rents are

806
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,802
set through hud so in other words the

807
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,200
maximum that can be paid is set through

808
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,200
hud but the rents or amount of vouchers is

809
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,200
specific to that family income, so if a

810
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,802
family has no income what so ever, the

811
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,200
voucher will supplement all most all of

812
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,200
it. If the family has significant income

813
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,200
they might not be eligible to it, but if

814
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,602
they are somewhere between, the supplement

815
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,200
will reflect that.

816
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,200
>> okay, sounds good. Thank you.

817
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>> welcome.

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>> anyone else? What is the pleasure of

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the board?

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>> [inaudible comments]

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>> motion jones, second holmes, all in

822
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,602
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

823
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I think last from consent-

824
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>> we have to reconvene as the board.

825
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>> thank you. Need to have good staff for

826
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people like me. We are adjourning as the

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placer housing authority and reconvening

828
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as the placer county board of supervisor

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and think taking up consent item 20c.

830
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>> good morning supervisor. Brett wood

831
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the purchasing manager here for item 20c

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which is several action items. First to

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approve increase to existing contract with

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mobile med work health solutions san jose

835
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california for covid-19 testing for county

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staff through the end of this fiscal year

837
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in the amount of-through the end of the

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calendar year, in amount of $270 thousand

839
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for new total of $300 thousands. Asking

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for the board to approve the renewal of

841
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the contract and maximum annual amount of

842
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$375 thousand. As over the past year

843
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there have been multiple changes from cal

844
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osha with respect to county staff and

845
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testing requirements there of. Human

846
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,200
resources has been tasked with the

847
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,200
responsibility to implement those and

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01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,602
manage those processes. During this year

849
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,200
with those new instructions human

850
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,602
resources went out and solicited quotes

851
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,200
from 3 different firms to determine who

852
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
could provide the testing services for the

853
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,200
county employees required. At the

854
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conclusion of that we awarded two

855
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different contracts for $30 thousand each

856
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,200
to mobile med health solutions of san jose

857
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,200
as well as collection plus of sacramento

858
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,402
california. Unfortunately the contract

859
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,200
with mobile med has been prematurely

860
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,200
exhausted due to changes in cal osha

861
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,200
requirements resulting in a need to come

862
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,200
here to your board to ask for additional

863
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,200
funding. With that, happy to answer any

864
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,200
questions your board may have.

865
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,200
>> thanks brett. Any questions of board

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,602
members? Seeing none, anyone from the

867
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public?

868
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,200
>> michael, go ahead and unmute your mic

869
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and give your comments.

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,802
>> thank you. So, I am very much against

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further testing. The covid testing is so

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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,602
fraudulent. Every time they test that

873
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,200
counts as a new case and they are testing

874
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,202
for the corona virus not covid-19. There

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200
is a cycle threshold that can be adjusted

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,200
to make the test more sensitive and these

877
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,202
tests are being used to institute these

878
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,200
mask mandates for example and are to put

879
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,602
further restrictions on the people. The

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01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,200
person that created the pcr test carrie

881
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,200
mullis said himself the test was never

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,202
designed as diagnostic tool, and there's a

883
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,202
dr., dr. Peter mccullough, I would really

884
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,200
recommend you look him up because he talks

885
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,200
about the pc r test and how fraudulently

886
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,200
it is being used. You might have to

887
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,200
search for him on duck duck go because

888
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,200
google is scrubbing anything that is

889
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,200
negative against the vaccine or against

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01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,602
the testing for covid protocols in

891
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,202
general. One other thing is, the covid

892
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,602
cannot be spread asystematically and many

893
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,200
doctors talked about that including peter

894
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,200
mccullough. So, I'm against spending more

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,202
money to put more restrictions on the

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,200
people. Thank you.

897
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,200
>> anyone else on zoom, megan?

898
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,200
>> we have one more on zoom.

899
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>> one more.

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>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give

901
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,200
your comments.

902
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,200
>> hi there. I would-my name is

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jacqueline and I would like to ditto

904
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,802
michael's comments as far as no more money

905
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,200
should be spent on testing or vaccines in

906
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,202
our county. It is all fraudulent and

907
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,200
honesty all evil and we should not be

908
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,200
spending taxpayer dollars on more

909
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,200
fraudulent testing to increase case

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,402
numbers and that is all I have to say.

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>> tina, go ahead and unmute your mic and

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give your comments.

913
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,802
>> hi. My name is tina. I want to

914
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,200
reiterate what was said. It is waste to

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01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,200
continue with testing, especially the-if

916
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200
we are following science why hasn't anyone

917
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,200
showed what the science is? Here in

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,200
california the science supposedly tells us

919
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,200
that we have to mask no matter what but in

920
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,200
new york you only have to mask if you are

921
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,200
not vaccinated and are in florida they

922
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,200
don't mask at all so which science are we

923
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,200
following? Please stop wasting the

924
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,200
taxpayer money.

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,200
>> no further on zoom.

926
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>> brett-behind-

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>> hi. My name is jennifer and I think-I

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like some information on just two aspects

929
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,200
of this. Number one, the pc r test is

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,200
like no longer valid at the end of this

931
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,200
year so what test are you going to be

932
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,200
using to run these mobile clinics? And if

933
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you are going to continue using the pc r

934
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,200
test what cycle per threshold are you

935
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,200
using because I believe it is anything

936
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,200
over 26 is basically able to give a false

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01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,802
positive. I are am not sure which staff

938
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,802
is included in this for testing, but I

939
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,200
think if you look at what's happened in

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:54,200
the u k they test 3 times as much as we do

941
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,200
on a smaller population and their cases

942
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,200
keep going up and up and up, and the

943
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,200
patterns that are showing and coming

944
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,200
across are the vaccinated people are the

945
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,200
ones now with this new variant like 80

946
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,602
percent that are becoming positive are

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vaccinated and so I think if we really

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01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,200
want to do this heard immunity thing that

949
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,200
keeps the number keeps getting raised

950
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,200
higher and higher and higher and it

951
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,200
doesn't really make too much sense to me

952
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,602
personally, I don't-I think people are

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,200
just going to be getting sick if they have

954
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,602
the vaccines the vaccines dont protect.

955
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,200
that was really what the vaccines are just

956
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,200
to reduce symptoms, right? So, if you are

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,200
vaccinated you will get it. You will have

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,200
your symptoms reduced if that's what it

959
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,200
does, and if you had it you are not going

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,200
to keep getting it, so I'm not really sure

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what the urgency is to do all this testing

962
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,200
all the time, because I do think it is

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bringing up a false positive and I think

964
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we are starting to see too we are having

965
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,200
more positive cases in areas where there

966
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,200
is more vaccinations, so if you wouldn't

967
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,200
mind just explaining how will the pc r

968
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,200
test is utilized in these testings that

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,602
you are mobily going around, what

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,200
threshold because I don't know why we

971
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,200
never ever really gotten that information

972
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,200
publicly. Our town hall was canceled for

973
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,200
our covid discussion, and I can't

974
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,200
understand that. And then what test you

975
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,200
are going to be using and can you explain

976
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:43,402
in detail why and how it actually shows a

977
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,200
test is positive and not a false positive,

978
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,200
because at the end of the year the pc r

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tests are no longer valid. Thank you.

980
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,202
>> thank you. Why don't you go ahead.

981
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,200
>> with respect to those questions I don't

982
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have that information at this time. These

983
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,200
est tests are dictated or testing

984
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,602
requirements are dictated from cal osha.

985
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,200
we work with our providers to determine

986
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,200
that they can meet those requirements.

987
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,200
>> thanks, brett. That is helpful.

988
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,200
>> john, please unmute your mic and give

989
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your comments.

990
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,200
>> alright. Thank you very much. John

991
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,200
falk speaking as a individual at this

992
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,200
time. As someone who would disagree with

993
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,200
the lion share of the people that spoke on

994
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,200
this issue, someone who is severely immuno

995
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,200
compromised and are also understand

996
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,200
medicine by having been a medic over 27

997
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,200
years, I can tell you that one, yes there

998
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,200
are break-through virus occurrences now

999
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,200
but it is because the virus shifts and

1000
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,200
mutates. First, there is viral drift then

1001
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,200
viral shift have the shift creates a new

1002
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,202
strain which may be less protective when

1003
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,200
you had the former vaccine. That does not

1004
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,200
mean the vaccine is ineffective and the

1005
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,200
vaccine does not lower your chance of

1006
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,200
being hospitalized or dying. What it does

1007
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,200
mean is vaccination is a key important

1008
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,200
first step towards getting back to normal

1009
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,200
and getting where the nob nab needs to be

1010
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,200
and it is absolutely critical people

1011
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,200
disregard the disinformation that is out

1012
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,200
there. Any time you have to go through a

1013
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,200
web search and then by-pass the scrubbers

1014
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,200
that get through the disinformation I

1015
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,200
think that you already told yourself

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,200
something. I would say go to the cdc, go

1017
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,200
to the nih, go to dr. Fauci and find out

1018
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,200
what the real truth is and you'll find

1019
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,200
just like with the flu it changes from

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,200
year to year. It is deadly from year to

1021
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,200
year, especially among those immuno

1022
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,200
compromised or elderly so please do not

1023
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,200
out of hand just dismiss this as a

1024
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,200
non-issue or asystematic people can't

1025
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,402
transmit. Scientifically untrue. The

1026
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,202
first 5 days you are infected even if

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asymptomatic you are most susceptible to

1028
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[inaudible comments] I would just say

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masks are important, vaccines are

1030
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,200
important, testing is important. Thank

1031
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,200
you.

1032
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,602
>> chairman and see no further public

1033
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,200
comment.

1034
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>> suzanne.

1035
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>> my question would be, this program

1036
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,200
here, this is only for testing of county

1037
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,200
employees?

1038
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,200
>> yes, ma'am;

1039
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,200
>> that is what is mandated to us by the

1040
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state?

1041
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,200
>> yes, ma'am.

1042
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,200
>> okay.

1043
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,200
>> what is the pleasure of the board.

1044
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,200
motion gustafson, second holmes. All in

1045
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,200
favor aye. So, if my notes are correct

1046
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,200
that completes our consent agenda. Now is

1047
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the time for public comment. This is time

1048
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when anyone from the public can address

1049
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,200
the board on something that is not on the

1050
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,200
agenda. Keeping in mind we can take no

1051
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,202
action. Anyone who would like to address

1052
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,602
us under public comment? Jennifer, why

1053
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,200
don't you start. We have somebody on zoom

1054
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,602
I'm assuming? Okay. Welcome to proceed.

1055
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,200
>> jennifer. I'm back. So, I saw that

1056
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california is doing the statewide mask

1057
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requirements and I was wondering if you

1058
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,200
can speak how that is going to impact

1059
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,200
placer county. I am not really sure why

1060
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,200
we are being forced to wear masks. There

1061
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,200
is high level of bad air we are breathing

1062
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,200
all day to make our brains not work and I

1063
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,200
think we are seeing that on a large scale

1064
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,200
in general. There is bacteria harbored on

1065
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them. They are not being worn properly.

1066
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everything escapes out the sides and the

1067
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tops, people are wearing them below their

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noses, so I really like to know why we are

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doing it, and if we are going to be doing

1070
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it in placer county if next meeting we are

1071
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here we all have to have our masks on

1072
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,200
sound like and I really just like to

1073
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understand a little bit more how that is

1074
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going to effect us. If we are going to

1075
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have to start wearing masks and continue

1076
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to comply with something that to me

1077
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,200
doesn't make sense and a lot of other

1078
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,200
people doesn't make sense, I really think

1079
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we should really think about

1080
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constitutionalizing our sheriff. Placer

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,200
county can lead the way. People are not

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01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,200
dropping dead in florida, people are not

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,200
dropping dead in other states that are not

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01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:19,200
wearing masks and I think we have to stop

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,200
living in fear because fear is driving our

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,200
economy into the ground as well as a lot

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,200
of other things. It is causing a lot of

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,602
divide and it's creating children with

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,202
lower motor skills, less speech, less comp

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,200
tense because they can't go to school,

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01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:44,202
they are having higher suicide rates. All

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,200
kinds of stuff, and I know masks are just

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01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,200
like a symptom of this, but I really think

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01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,200
we need to consider what these masks are,

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01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,200
because to me they are a silencer.

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01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,200
anything that is not going with what is

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,200
said by the cdc or nih, which continually

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01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,200
changes. Diseases continually change. It

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01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,200
isn't going it go away. We have to accept

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,802
that and move forward. Just a change of

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01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,200
shift from my last 30 seconds. I would

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01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:22,202
also really like placer county to consider

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,200
5g placement as it is going up. We are a

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01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,200
huge agricultural area as we discussed

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,200
earlier through the redistricting, and

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,200
there is a lot of studies showing 4g

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01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,200
effects bees and other things like that

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,200
are pollinators, and I think that is

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,200
something to consider. There is no

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,200
long-term studies on 5g or 4g and it

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01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,200
destroys the cells in the body. Thank

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,200
you.

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,200
>> thank you, jennifer.

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01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,200
>> michael go ahead and unmute and give

1115
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,200
your comments.

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01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,200
>> hi. Yes, I'm very much against mask

1117
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,200
mandates and I will not comply with the

1118
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,202
mask mandate. I'm curious to hear what

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01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,200
you as a board plan to do with this. You

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know, there is other counties that have

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,200
pushed back against these mandates but I

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,202
haven't seen it from placer county. San

1123
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,602
joaquin and el dorado have resolutions

1124
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,602
against vaccine mandates. And then again

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,200
I want to-another thing I like to talk

1126
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,202
about is the covid-19 dashboard for placer

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01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,200
county. To me it seems it is just

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,200
propaganda. 39.200 cases. Okay. So, and

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01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,602
then 56 average daily cases. Huh. Likely

1130
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,402
37.723 likely recovered. 483 deaths. So,

1131
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,802
what does that mean? Is that this month?

1132
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,200
is that this year? Is that ever? And

1133
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,200
then, it looks like the cases are going

1134
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,200
down but yet now we have this mask mandate

1135
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,202
for all of california. On the covid-19

1136
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,200
dashboard could you put some information

1137
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,602
on the vaccine like adverse reactions?

1138
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,200
can we have listings how many people have

1139
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,602
been adversely effected from the vaccine?

1140
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:44,200
how many died from the vaccine? What

1141
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,200
about just general we never followed this

1142
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,200
before. What about general deaths,

1143
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,402
automobile accidents, deaths from

1144
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,402
automobile accidents, cancer, other

1145
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,200
medical conditions. That might be

1146
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,200
interesting to put on there. As it stands

1147
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,200
it seems like it is just propaganda and

1148
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,602
promoting fear. We really need you

1149
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,200
supervisors to lead and stop promoting

1150
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,200
fear and then I think that the main thing

1151
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,200
I hear from you folks is that well, the

1152
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,200
state mandates it and we don't have power

1153
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,200
to do it. Then why are the other counties

1154
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,200
doing it? Did they have more power then

1155
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,200
you guys? I'm just curious to hear your

1156
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,200
response. Thank you.

1157
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,200
>> thank you.

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01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,200
>> I see no further comments.

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,200
>> okay. Next is the time for board and

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,200
the county executive reports and todd you

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,200
want to lead?

1162
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,200
>> yeah. Couple things and then dr.

1163
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,200
oldham is on the call to answer a couple

1164
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,200
questions about most recently this

1165
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,200
mandate. The first one I wanted to share

1166
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,200
we are getting to the end of the year and

1167
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,200
think it is really important we reflect on

1168
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,200
just the important stuff our staff has

1169
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,200
done. We have a lot of projects and will

1170
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,200
be remiss not to say between public health

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,200
staff recollect public safety folks those

1172
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,200
are directly impacted and helping address

1173
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,200
just the challenge over the last 2 years.

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01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,200
I would be remise not to say thank you to

1175
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,200
them. I think we also have a number of

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,602
projects from the corner facility online

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,200
in february, mercy housing project we are

1178
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,200
just completing right now. Our housing

1179
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,200
programs and all the diversity of trying

1180
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,200
to get affordable housing for residents I

1181
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,200
think is not to go unnoticed and I also

1182
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,200
think homelessness and conversation around

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,200
regional discussion are important. So, I

1184
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,200
just wanted to give a quick thank you to

1185
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,200
our staff that have just worked tirelessly

1186
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,200
over the last year. Also wanted to talk

1187
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,200
about some highlights and going to try to

1188
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,200
more as we get to the new year but we had

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:04,202
two challenge awards. Csac had a winter

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01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,602
conference and 433 entries from all the

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,200
counties, the 58 counties around the

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,200
state. Our county received two of those

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01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,200
awards. One a challenge award around

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,402
dispersement for emergency rental

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01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,200
assistance funding. You as a board

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,200
supported having our internal staff run

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,200
that program in partnership with the city

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01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,200
of roseville. We were able to distribute

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over $8.1 million for rental assistance

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,200
which allow the residents to stay in their

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01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,200
homes. We had a merit award that was a

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,200
virtual format and I talked about this

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01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,200
individually I think collectively as a

1204
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,200
organization there is silver lining we

1205
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,200
have to look at and part of it is how we

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01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,200
utilize technology to provide a service to

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01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:55,802
our residents and this award was a virtual

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,200
format for cal works participants and

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01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,200
recipients to work in a virtual resource

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01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,200
huddle format and allowed those folks to

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01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,200
come in and are speak to us if they didn't

1212
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,200
feel comfortable coming into provide those

1213
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,200
services and think the success of that

1214
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,200
program will probably take place and

1215
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,200
continue long after we moved through the

1216
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,200
pandemic work. Really good work in that

1217
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,200
arena. The last thing I say, [inaudible

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01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,200
comments] she is a program manager in hhs.

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01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,200
she last week was recognized through the

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01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,200
community collaborative in tahoe truckee

1221
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,200
as the partner of the year award. She's

1222
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,200
just a outstanding employee. Partners

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01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,200
between nevada and placer county. Provide

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01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,200
service to our residents so she was

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01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,200
recognized and want to say thank you to

1226
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,200
that for her. The last thing I served

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,200
this last year as chairman for the

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01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,200
[inaudible comments] regional manager

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,200
association. This is the county and the

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01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,200
city managers, we get together on a

1231
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,200
quarterly basis talk about transportation,

1232
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,200
green means go, housing, infrastructure

1233
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,200
funding, I think it is always important to

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01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,200
work regionally on issues, we do that at

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01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,200
the county level and think it serves well

1236
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,200
to be partners around the region as well.

1237
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,200
I just wanted to say thanks for the

1238
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,200
support for me serving in that capacity

1239
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,200
the last year. Finally I will turn it to

1240
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,200
rob oldham. Rob is here-we heard most

1241
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,200
recently about the state mask mandate and

1242
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,200
I thought it was important you to hear

1243
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,200
directly from him what this means and

1244
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,200
clarity about what's coming down from the

1245
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,200
state here starting tomorrow. Rob, I'll

1246
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,200
turn it over to you.

1247
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,200
>> great thanks todd and thanks for giving

1248
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,200
props to our hhs program with the csac

1249
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,200
award and [inaudible comments]

1250
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,200
congratulations everyone. So, good

1251
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,200
morning chair weygandt and members of the

1252
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,200
board. Rob oldham. Recent development

1253
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,200
with statewide mask mandate discussed this

1254
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,200
morning. Asked to provide a brief covid

1255
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,200
update. As you recall, my last report to

1256
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,200
your board on covid was really back when

1257
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,200
our schools and hospitals and other

1258
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,402
critical infrastructure were being

1259
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:20,200
stretched very thin by the delta variant

1260
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,200
surge. Since then our case rate and

1261
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,200
hospitalizations have dropped

1262
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,200
significantly, especially from their highs

1263
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,200
back in august and september. They have

1264
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,200
not yet returned to their pre-delta

1265
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,200
variant lows and also sense then many more

1266
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,200
people have been vaccinated or received

1267
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,200
boosters and new promising therapeutics

1268
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,200
have also been introduced that can

1269
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,402
dramatically decrease severe illness,

1270
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,200
hospitalization and death from covid, so

1271
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,200
over all news on the covid front is

1272
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,200
relatively good. But late last month we

1273
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,200
began to hear about a new variant

1274
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,200
beginning to spread in other countries and

1275
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,200
just last week the variant started showing

1276
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,200
up in california. While we haven't had a

1277
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,200
case of the variant identified in placer

1278
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,802
county yet, it has been found in the

1279
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,602
sacramento area and reasonable to expect

1280
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,200
we will find it here in placer very soon.

1281
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,200
while we are still very early in our

1282
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,200
process of learning about omicron. It is

1283
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,200
very new in the world stage. What we know

1284
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,200
is omicron has a large number of mutations

1285
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,602
compared to other variants and those

1286
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,200
appear to decrease the ability of ant

1287
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,200
bodies in the flood which come from

1288
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,200
vaccine or previous infection so can

1289
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,200
decrease the ability of the ant bodies to

1290
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,602
neutralize the virus and recently released

1291
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,200
data seemed to suggest vaccines

1292
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,200
effectiveness may be significant lower

1293
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,200
against omicron, but vaccine boosters

1294
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,200
still appear to be quite effective at

1295
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,402
preventing illness, especially severe

1296
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,202
illness. What will omicron mean? It is

1297
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,200
too early to tell exactly. It is quite

1298
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,602
possible that omicron will become the

1299
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,200
dominant variant later this winter and

1300
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,200
reasonable to expect we'll see a winter

1301
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,200
surge both in covid cases but also in

1302
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,200
other respiratory illness. We already

1303
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,200
have seen recent surges in respiratory

1304
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,200
illnesses and uptick in the last couple

1305
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,200
weeks of covid cases and hospitalization,

1306
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,200
since the thanksgiving holiday. Not at

1307
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,200
the same rates that we saw this time last

1308
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,202
year. In addition, we talked about the

1309
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,602
statewide masking mandate that will go

1310
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,200
effective tomorrow in addition to the

1311
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,200
statewide indoor masking mandate yesterday

1312
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,200
the state tightened up guidance for so

1313
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,200
called mega events so events more then a

1314
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,200
thousand indoor attendees or more then 10

1315
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,200
thousand outdoor attendees and now are

1316
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,200
requiring all attendees to show proof of

1317
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,200
vaccination or a negative test within one

1318
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:29,200
day for ant jen test and 2 days for pc r

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01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,200
test. Placer count y impact, we don't

1320
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,200
have many venues that can hold over a

1321
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,200
thousand people indoors in placer county

1322
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,200
but certainly in other counties that will

1323
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,200
have a significant impact. Yard the state

1324
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,200
the issued a new travel advisory

1325
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,200
recommending all travellers arriving in

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01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,602
california test for covid-19 within 3 to 5

1327
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,200
days after arrival regardless of

1328
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,200
vaccination status. Lots of people are

1329
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,200
asking if we anticipate a return to

1330
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,200
lock-downs or limits on business capacity

1331
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,200
or operations like we did under the state

1332
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,200
blue print for healthier economy. I think

1333
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,200
it is notable it has been all most exactly

1334
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,200
since month since the blue print retired

1335
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,200
back in june so I would be very surprised

1336
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:19,200
if we back to anything like those levels

1337
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,200
of restrictions. I have been surprised

1338
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,200
before and can be again but we are in

1339
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,200
really good shape relative to where we

1340
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,200
were last year at this time or back in

1341
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,200
june. We now have over 60 percent of our

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01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,200
population in placer county fully

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,200
vaccinated about 90 pert of the seniors

1344
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,200
are fully vaccinated and now with the

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01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,200
vaccine available to children and large

1346
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,200
numbers of people getting boosters much

1347
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,200
wider availability of testing and

1348
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,200
effective therapeutics and high quality

1349
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,200
masks we are in much better position then

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,200
we were earlier in the pandemic. With

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01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,200
that, happy to answer any questions you

1352
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,200
may have and once again thanks and

1353
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,200
appreciate todd's word on the staff. It

1354
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,200
is a long haul both this year and with the

1355
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,200
pandemic throughout the county and in hhs

1356
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,200
and say thank you to the staff and great

1357
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,200
work you have done. Thanks.

1358
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:13,802
>> thanks rob and back to you for the

1359
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,200
same-want to build on todd comments by

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:21,202
thanking all our staff regardless of how

1361
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,200
good or bad the board's ideas are or

1362
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,200
successes can never be achieved without

1363
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,200
excellence in staff and committed and hard

1364
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,200
work so great time of year to technology

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,200
we have many standards setting programs

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01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,200
and specifically rob again you guys have

1367
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,200
done well at health and human services and

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01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,200
don't want to put pressure on you but come

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01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,200
to expect that now over the last 27 years

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01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,200
so next year just looking forward to

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01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,200
whatever fabulous achievements you have

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01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,602
out there. Health and human subs

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01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,200
recognized across the country and

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01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,200
particularly in the state of california

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01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,200
and it does not go unnoticed. With that

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01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,602
I'll open up for questions. Cindy.

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01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,200
>> I didn't have any questions, just had

1378
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,200
reports to give,

1379
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,200
>> any covid related or specific comments

1380
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,200
for rob?

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:19,200
>> I do have to ask one question. I had a

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01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,200
couple of restaurant owners contact me

1383
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,602
last night-the height of holiday season

1384
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,200
for our restaurants who have been severely

1385
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,200
impacted this last year. I know they have

1386
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,200
to worry about state abc, but as far as

1387
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,200
our own county staff, we got folks who

1388
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,200
have to do the environmental health checks

1389
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,200
at our restaurants, do you anticipate

1390
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,200
those folks going out and closing down our

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01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,200
restaurants?

1392
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,602
>> I really am not hearing about

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01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,200
enforcement even from the state so that is

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01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,200
a question we are getting a lot about-by

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01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,200
the way on restaurants there are a number

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,602
of exceptions on the statewide indoor

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01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,200
masking mandate and you can go to the

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01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,200
state website and see that but while

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01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,200
eating and drinking. A lot of the same

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,802
things I think people are accustom to but

1401
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,200
as far as enforcement of those I'm not

1402
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,200
really hearing a lot across the state

1403
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,602
about that. Really the hope-people are

1404
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:34,200
asking why now, why is this coming. The

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01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,200
state website speaks why the timing for

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01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,202
this. I mentioned the omicron variant and

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01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,200
up take in cases statewide. Masking

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01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:54,200
mandates are in the places that had them

1409
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,200
already we have seen minimal enforcement

1410
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,200
and the idea is they are try to change

1411
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:03,202
perception of masking and social norms in

1412
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,200
communities making masking more common,

1413
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,802
but as far as--the influence of or the

1414
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,200
enforcement I think that will be minimal.

1415
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,200
also in addition we talked about one the

1416
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,200
quality of masking being really important

1417
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,200
and then masking relative to some of the

1418
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,200
other interventions I think vaccinations

1419
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,602
in particular probably being a more

1420
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,402
effective strategy but combining

1421
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,200
interventions has shown to be the most

1422
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,200
impactful but there are probably other

1423
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,200
intervention like vaccination that are

1424
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:44,200
more effective then masking.

1425
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:45,200
>> thank you, I appreciate that and know

1426
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,200
folks are asking when or not the sheriff

1427
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,200
will enforce and I haven't heard from the

1428
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,200
sheriff but he hasn't enforced in the

1429
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,200
past. I don't certainly cant see him

1430
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,200
choosing to do that again and I want to

1431
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,200
let residents know that. We want to be

1432
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,200
concerned about people getting sick and

1433
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,200
probably the best thing about this is that

1434
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,200
it is taught people to stay home if they

1435
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,200
are not feeling well, which is a really

1436
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,200
good thing and I really want to encourage

1437
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,200
people to do that. There are other things

1438
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,200
of washing hands if you are sick just are

1439
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:23,200
please stay away from all the rest of us.

1440
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,402
thank you dr. Oldham.

1441
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,200
>> thanks again rob. Cindy. This is the

1442
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,200
time again for board members reports and

1443
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:37,200
we heard from county exec so now going to

1444
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,200
cindy for board member report.

1445
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,200
>> I had a quick report tomorrow the tahoe

1446
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,200
regional planning agency will be meeting

1447
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,200
and later today we'll be talking about our

1448
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,200
placer county transportation fees for

1449
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,200
tahoe. Tomorrow the tahoe regional

1450
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,200
planning agency will be voting on mobility

1451
01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,200
fee that is somewhat similar to vmt

1452
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,200
reductions we have been talking about here

1453
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,200
and what is important for the board to

1454
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,200
know is our staff has worked tirelessly.

1455
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,200
stephanie as well as katie jackson

1456
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,200
[inaudible comments] to make sure these

1457
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:15,200
two programs do not compound on each other

1458
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,200
for a new development in the tahoe basin

1459
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,200
which could have occurred. There is a lot

1460
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,200
to still work out to make sure our

1461
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:25,200
projects are done. Will collect that fee

1462
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:29,802
and then make sure that our projects our

1463
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,200
portion the regional transportation fund

1464
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,200
are funded. I wanted to thank staff

1465
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,200
publicly for all their efforts to make

1466
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,200
sure that we safeguard our tahoe

1467
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,200
businesses and residents on that to make

1468
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,200
sure they are not paying double fees

1469
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,200
within the basin. And then obviously

1470
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,200
wanted to say great job on bringing us a

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01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,200
lot of snow. We need snow for a lot of

1472
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:00,200
good reasons for most important it is

1473
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,200
essential for our water resources. Headed

1474
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,200
into the holidays we couldn't have asked

1475
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,200
for a better economic boost for many ski

1476
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,200
areas who hadn't been able to open or

1477
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:15,402
barely opening. It is going to be a great

1478
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,200
white christmas for the ski areas. And

1479
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:22,200
then finally, today robert if I'm numbers

1480
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,200
are right this is your 5th time concluding

1481
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,200
your 5th time as chair of this board, and

1482
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,200
I could couldn't let it go unnoticed

1483
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:38,802
because of such a year you had. Between

1484
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,200
everything you had to deal with,

1485
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:45,200
continuing the legacy with covid but into

1486
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:46,200
vaccination and vaccination requirements

1487
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,200
and all the public testimony and then

1488
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,200
redistricating of course. Few little hot

1489
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,200
buttons along the way but you have done a

1490
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,200
excellent job and I know that you can't

1491
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,200
open this now, but on behalf of all the

1492
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,200
board, we have a little something that

1493
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,200
will ease the pain for the holidays.

1494
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,200
[laughter]

1495
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,200
can't open it here on the county grounds,

1496
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:14,802
but hopefully you can enjoy that and just

1497
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,200
wanted to thank you for your great

1498
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,200
leadership. It has been a tough year,

1499
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,200
probably the toughest you had as a chair,

1500
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,200
at least that is what you said.

1501
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:25,200
>> thank you. Depending how the meeting

1502
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,200
goes today I might defy county rules and

1503
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:32,202
regulations I might need to call the

1504
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,200
sheriff. Thank you very much. I

1505
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:37,200
appreciate it. Thank you.

1506
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,200
(applause)

1507
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,200
>> suzanne.

1508
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:44,200
>> yes. I wanted to just mention that I'm

1509
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,200
also rounding out my first year on the

1510
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:50,200
board and it's been quite a experience. I

1511
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,200
enjoyed it working with all of you and all

1512
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,200
of my constituents and wanted to tell

1513
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:56,200
everybody thanks especially to my

1514
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,200
constituents for your continued support

1515
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,200
and I appreciate everybody that reaches

1516
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,200
out to me with concerns that we can

1517
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,200
attempt to resolve here at this level and

1518
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:10,200
so with that, thank you robert for-you

1519
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,200
have been a great mentor for me for the

1520
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:16,200
future even though your year was hard. It

1521
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,200
was good for me.

1522
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,200
>> can only get easier, right?

1523
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,200
[laughter]

1524
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,200
>> I just want to end by wishing everybody

1525
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,200
a happy holiday, merry christmas if you

1526
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,200
observe christmas and wish everyone the

1527
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,200
best in the new year.

1528
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:36,200
>> I'll finish by saying, cindy it is all

1529
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,200
most certain you will be our new chair and

1530
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,200
you will have some incredibly good support

1531
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,200
megan and todd and county counsel office

1532
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:46,200
and other executive staff and it makes all

1533
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,200
the difference in the world so I just want

1534
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,200
to publicly acknowledge that and express

1535
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,602
my appreciation. Okay, with that and

1536
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,200
seeing no other lights I'm going to take

1537
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,200
the chair prerogative and bounce around.

1538
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:04,200
we'll take up because of timing our 9:30

1539
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,200
item and after that take the then 1035

1540
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:12,802
item compared to the 915 item we should be

1541
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,200
taking now. The next item is our placer

1542
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,402
county 2022 legislative advocacy platform.

1543
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,200
joel.

1544
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,200
>> good morning chair members of the

1545
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,200
board. Todd karen. County executive

1546
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,200
office. I should be joined today on zoom

1547
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,200
by rich gold and michael gullano of

1548
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,200
holland and knight and paul yoder and

1549
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,200
karen lang with syasl partners.

1550
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,200
additionally, besides them giving a update

1551
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,200
to the board today you have before you a

1552
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,200
draft legislative platform which serves as

1553
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,200
the basis for county advocacy efforts with

1554
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,200
executive and legislative branches of

1555
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,200
federal government to support sponsor and

1556
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,200
oppose legislation address policy rules

1557
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:08,200
laws regulations as well as defend county

1558
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,200
local authority and resources. Placer

1559
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,200
county with contractor advocates and

1560
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:15,200
member associations have been successful

1561
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,200
over the past few years advancing county

1562
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,200
priorities and protecting the county

1563
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,200
ability to have local control over our

1564
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,200
governance and land use decisions. While

1565
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,200
placer county or any county have not won

1566
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,200
every battle placer county does continue

1567
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,200
to mitigate some of the more problematic

1568
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,200
provisions in various pieces of

1569
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:37,200
legislation over the years. With the

1570
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,200
board's work we continue to have a

1571
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,200
more-take a more proactive approach in dc

1572
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,200
and sacramento. 2021 saw record

1573
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,200
investments on many county priorities from

1574
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,200
dc and sacramento. Infrastructure funding

1575
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,200
reach historic levels over the next 5

1576
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,602
years competing for roads bridges water

1577
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,200
sewer and electric vehicle infrastructure.

1578
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:03,200
broadband received historic funding with

1579
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,200
$6 billion from the state and $65 billion

1580
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,200
from the federal government of which the

1581
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,200
state should see $6 billion of the $65

1582
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:15,200
billion. Staff continues to work hard to

1583
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,200
make sure every resident and business that

1584
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,602
wants to receive high-speed internet will

1585
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,200
receive high-speed internet at reliable

1586
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,200
and affordable cost. Wildfire risk

1587
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,200
reduction continue to be top priority of

1588
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,200
the board and county staff. Investment in

1589
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,200
that front has-in the billions of dollars

1590
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,200
range which michael and rich from holland

1591
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,200
and knight will discuss in a minute to

1592
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,200
really try to reduce fuel load in the

1593
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,602
local forest. Going into 2022, which is

1594
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,200
setting up to be a fairly unique year for

1595
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,200
me working with this job on a state level

1596
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,200
you have redistricting which is yet to be

1597
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,200
settled. Today is the self imposed

1598
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,200
deadline. The additional deadline is

1599
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,200
later this month. You also have back in

1600
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,200
2012 the voters approved term limit

1601
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,200
initiative which you will see the effect

1602
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:15,200
of the term limit as folks expire for the

1603
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,200
seats in 2024. Many members are looking

1604
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,200
for other jobs at this point. You have a

1605
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,200
gubernatorial this fall, senate election,

1606
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,200
various statewide offices and what is

1607
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,200
setting up to be a pretty large ballot.

1608
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,200
as of this point you have up to 4

1609
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,200
initiatives just on legalizing sports

1610
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,200
gambling in the state. So, with that I

1611
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,200
will turn over to rich gold and michael

1612
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:41,200
gullano to kick off the presentation and

1613
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,200
following up with paul yoder and rich

1614
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:44,200
[inaudible comments]

1615
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,200
>> mr. Chair, I have a question. I want

1616
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,200
to clarify. You said members expire. The

1617
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:51,200
term expires?

1618
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,200
>> the term limits-I should clarify-

1619
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,200
>> the more seasons joel the more you pay

1620
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,402
attention to the distinction.

1621
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:05,200
[laughter]

1622
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,200
>> if it please your board my name is rich

1623
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,602
gold. I appreciate the opportunities to

1624
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,200
speak with you all today along with my

1625
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,200
colleague mike gullano. I wanted to start

1626
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,200
out just by thanking you all for all the

1627
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,200
good work you as the board did this year

1628
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,200
advocating for the county federal

1629
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,200
priorities. It was obviously a challenge

1630
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,200
with limited capability to have personal

1631
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,200
interaction with members of congress and

1632
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,200
members of the executive branch but we got

1633
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,200
a lot done and I think we are rounding the

1634
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,200
corner and hoping that congress will be

1635
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,200
back in business taking personal meetings

1636
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,200
as well as the executive branch and first

1637
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:49,200
quarter of 2022. I also just want to tip

1638
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,200
my hat as well supervisor weygandt. We

1639
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,200
worked together what seems over a hundred

1640
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,200
years. He's been a great elected official

1641
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,200
to work with and shown true leadership on

1642
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,200
so many issues from water to

1643
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,200
transportation and look forward to this

1644
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:07,200
final lap here robert.

1645
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,200
>> thanks rich.

1646
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,200
>> sure. Just wanted to give a brief

1647
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,200
overview here and we can go to the next

1648
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:19,202
slide. With regard to where things stand.

1649
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,200
obviously at the federal level we have a

1650
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,200
very closely divided congress with the

1651
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:30,200
senate tied 50/50, the house only a few

1652
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,200
seats apart. That makes getting

1653
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,200
legislation through the process very

1654
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,200
difficult. On the other hand it also

1655
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,402
produced bipartisan infrastructure bill

1656
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,200
this summer which required the margins

1657
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,200
required a very bipartisan effort for that

1658
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,200
legislation. I think we had a very

1659
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,200
productive year. We started out in

1660
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:55,200
february moving the american rescue plan

1661
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,200
through congress and providing lead

1662
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,200
funding for covid and economically

1663
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,200
impacted interests like restaurants and

1664
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,200
other community facilities that had really

1665
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,602
suffered economically during the shut down

1666
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,602
from the pandemic. That legislation lead

1667
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,200
us into discussion around the bipartisan

1668
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,200
infrastructure bill which started in april

1669
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,200
and we were successful passing that bill

1670
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,200
into law in august, and had good

1671
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,200
bipartisan support in both the senate and

1672
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:35,200
house for that legislation. And while it

1673
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:38,602
passed-while that bill passed through the

1674
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:43,200
senate in august, it only finally passed

1675
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,200
here in november through the house of

1676
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,200
representatives and we will be talking

1677
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,200
about the programs included in that bill

1678
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,200
and in 2022 a lot of those programs will

1679
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,200
be pumping money through the system for

1680
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,200
everything as joel referenced from

1681
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,200
transportation to water infrastructure and

1682
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,200
broadband. We are working on the current

1683
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,200
reconciliation bill entitled build back

1684
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:12,200
better and that bill likely will go into

1685
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,200
2022. We will not finish before christmas

1686
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:18,200
as senators had hoped would be the case,

1687
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,200
so we are likely going to take up that

1688
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:24,802
bill again when we come back in january.

1689
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:26,200
in addition in january we need to finish

1690
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,602
up the fy22 federal appropriation bills

1691
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,200
which also provide significant funding for

1692
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,602
county priorities, and move forward then

1693
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:40,200
into the new cycle for fy23. So, mike let

1694
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:44,200
me kick it over to you for the next slide.

1695
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,200
>> thanks rich. I'll do a lilt deeper

1696
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:50,200
dive on topics that rich mentioned. So,

1697
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,200
really the past year, year and a half have

1698
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:58,200
been focused on covid response. At the

1699
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:02,202
federal level. Next slide. So, to date

1700
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,602
congress has enacted 5 major covid relief

1701
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:15,200
packages to the tune of $5 trillion over

1702
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,200
the next decade. The most well known of

1703
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:21,200
those 5 are really the third, which is the

1704
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:24,200
cares act, which was enacted in march of

1705
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:28,202
2020 and then the american rescue plan act

1706
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:34,802
arpa enacted in march of 21. So, one of

1707
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:39,200
the flaws of the cares act even at $1.8

1708
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,200
trillion was that at least from a local

1709
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,200
government perspective, it didn't get

1710
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:48,200
money directly to most counties and cities

1711
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,200
across the country. It was well

1712
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,200
intentioned but in the response to get the

1713
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,200
money out the door quickly the governor

1714
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,200
got most of those dollars to allocate to

1715
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,200
the local governments and that took longer

1716
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:08,200
then it should have. Coming into 21 one

1717
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,200
of the goals for the next package, the

1718
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,200
arpa plan was to insure that local

1719
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,200
governments got that funding directly.

1720
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,802
next slide. So, arpa was passed in march

1721
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,200
of 21. It provided $360 billion directly

1722
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:32,200
to local and state governments and the

1723
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,200
good news one of the big victories from

1724
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,200
earlier this year was that it provided

1725
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,200
directed funding to local governments of

1726
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,602
all sizes including placer county which

1727
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,200
received $77 million from the local

1728
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,200
government relief fund on top of the other

1729
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,602
monies related to rental assistance and

1730
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,200
money through hud and other departments.

1731
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:02,200
so, that really was the response phase for

1732
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:06,200
covid, which just ended over the summer of

1733
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,602
21. Once those bills got done, congress

1734
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:16,202
attempted to pivot to from recovery from

1735
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,200
response to recovery, so that was when the

1736
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,200
infrastructure package started to pick up

1737
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,602
speed. Initially the president had hoped

1738
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,200
to pass a package in the neighborhood of

1739
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:35,200
$4 trillion, which even in dc is a lot of

1740
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:39,200
money, so realizing that was not going to

1741
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,200
be possible they decided to bifurcate the

1742
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,200
package to create a traditional

1743
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,200
infrastructure package and then a social

1744
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,200
infrastructure package. Next slide. So,

1745
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:59,802
on a parallel track, congress also as rich

1746
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,200
noted proceeding with the annual

1747
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,200
appropriations process and one new

1748
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,200
development on that front, it was the

1749
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,200
return of congressional earmarks. The

1750
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,200
board will recall earmarks at the federal

1751
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:20,200
level went away in fiscal year 10 so after

1752
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:23,602
a 11 year hiatus, congress when the

1753
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,200
democrat said won the house and senate

1754
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,200
decided to bring back the earmark process

1755
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:36,402
really on a trial basis for fy22, and we

1756
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,200
are pleased to report the county has one

1757
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:43,200
project pending in those fy22 bills, which

1758
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:47,200
were not completed by october 1 when they

1759
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,200
should have, but we are hopeful to get

1760
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:53,200
these bills done before the end of

1761
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,200
february, and there is $580 thousand

1762
01:47:56,200 --> 01:48:00,802
pending for a body worm camera program at

1763
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:06,200
the sheriff office. Next slide. As rich

1764
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,602
noted, the infrastructure bill enacted on

1765
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,402
november 15. It's $1.2 trillion for

1766
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,200
traditional infrastructure. We are

1767
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:21,200
working with staff to identify the various

1768
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,200
programs of interest to the county. Joel

1769
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:28,200
noted that there is $3 billion included in

1770
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,200
there for wildfire related activities.

1771
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,200
also importantly new policy changes on the

1772
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,200
wildfire front included including creating

1773
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,200
a new categorical exclusion under neppa

1774
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,200
for fuel reduction and fuel break

1775
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,200
activities, which is welcome change. Not

1776
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,200
a pant sia but a step in the right

1777
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:56,602
direction. That was signed into law

1778
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,602
november 15. We expect most of the

1779
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,200
formula dollars from this $1.2 trillion

1780
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:10,200
package to start to flow to the states

1781
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,200
during the first quarter of 2022 for all

1782
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,402
the traditional infrastructure funding

1783
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:20,200
from roads and bridges and to safe

1784
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,200
drinking water and stormwater projects.

1785
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,200
the other part of that funding package is

1786
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,200
the competitive programs which were

1787
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,200
created. Those are going to take longer

1788
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:33,200
to get out the door. The various agencies

1789
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:36,200
and jurisdictions have to hire up and

1790
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,200
write the notice of funding availability,

1791
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:41,200
so on the competitive side we expect to

1792
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,202
see over the summer of 22. Next slide.

1793
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,602
>> so, the second piece to the

1794
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:56,200
infrastructure package is social spending

1795
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:59,200
which is called the build back better

1796
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,202
program here in dc. 24 the house enacted

1797
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:12,200
a package over $3 trillion. That wasn't

1798
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:16,200
going to pass in the senate for ez reasons

1799
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,200
you have probably seen in the press so the

1800
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,200
senate is attempting to draft a more

1801
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,200
modest size package to the tune of $1.7

1802
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,602
trillion. Leader schumer and the senate

1803
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,200
told his caucus he is hoping to have a

1804
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,200
vote on the package before they leave for

1805
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,200
christmas. That is unlikely but that is

1806
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,200
their goal. And should that pass we will

1807
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:42,200
get with your staff to make sure that they

1808
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:47,200
are aware of what's in it and so woe can

1809
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,200
compete for the social dollars in addition

1810
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,200
to the traditional infrastructure dollars.

1811
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,802
next slide. So, what's left to do over

1812
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:02,200
the next couple weeks in dc. Rich

1813
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:03,200
mentioned government funding. We are

1814
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,200
operating under our second continuing

1815
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,200
resolution to keep the federal government

1816
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,200
open through february 18. Congress will

1817
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,200
use these next 6 weeks to finish those

1818
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,200
fy22 spending bills that include the

1819
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:22,200
funding for the sheriff body worn camera

1820
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,200
program. In addition, the second item

1821
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,200
congress needs to raise the federal debt

1822
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,200
limit which is the government ability to

1823
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,200
barrow. According to the treasury

1824
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,200
secretary we will be up against that limit

1825
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:38,200
on december 15, which according to my

1826
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,200
calendar is tomorrow, so the senate is

1827
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:45,200
expected to pass a debt limit increase

1828
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,200
this afternoon and the house will attempt

1829
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,200
to pass that this evening. The third item

1830
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,200
the social spending is again the build

1831
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,200
back better plan that was mentioned on the

1832
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:59,200
prior slide. The democrats want to get

1833
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:02,200
that done before christmas. Unlikely it

1834
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,200
is more likely to slide into the end of

1835
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:08,200
this year or early next year, so stay

1836
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,200
tuned on that. So, in terms of looking

1837
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,602
forward to 2022, next slide--there is a

1838
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:23,200
lot of federal money coming down the pike

1839
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,200
and we have been working with staff to get

1840
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:29,200
up to speed on the different programs.

1841
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,200
so, really it is 3 legs of a federal

1842
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:35,200
funding platform. That is the way we like

1843
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,200
to think about it. There are competitive

1844
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,200
federal grants the county will apply for

1845
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,200
and has done very well historically

1846
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,200
including earlier this year a $5 million

1847
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:49,202
grant for the western placer county hcp.

1848
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,200
those will come out in the spring time.

1849
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,602
there is the annual congressional federal

1850
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,200
appropriation process which will good

1851
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,200
begin in february which is 12 month

1852
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,200
process and then the-special funding

1853
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,200
opportunities and in our case that is the

1854
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,200
federal infrastructure package which is

1855
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,200
already enacted and then the

1856
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,200
reconciliation bill which may or may not

1857
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,200
be enacted later this year. That is a

1858
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,200
good way to organize our thoughts on that

1859
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,200
and we already had a number of planning

1860
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,200
meetings with your staff to walk through

1861
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,200
the various opportunities for 2022 and

1862
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:35,200
beyond. With that, thank you and happy to

1863
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:36,200
take any questions.

1864
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,200
>> thanks mike and rich. Good seeing you

1865
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,200
guys again. Hope next time in person, but

1866
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,200
are there any questions from mike and rich

1867
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,200
federal advocacy at this time by my

1868
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:47,200
colleagues? Cindy.

1869
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,200
>> hi, thanks so much for the report and

1870
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:53,200
all the efforts going into this. I was at

1871
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:57,202
a luncheon on saturday in which members

1872
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:04,802
the u.s. Forest service of the percentage

1873
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,200
of the budget that changed to I believe 9

1874
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,200
percent of firefighter to over 55 percent

1875
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:14,200
of fire fighting and I want to again

1876
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,200
emphasize I know you know this

1877
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,200
representing us in the western states as

1878
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:21,200
well that we need more money to stop fires

1879
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,200
from starting and being able to fight them

1880
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:26,200
with our fuel suppression, especially in

1881
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:30,200
our national forest; so any efforts we can

1882
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:34,200
do to continue to highlight this issue on

1883
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,200
forest fuel reduction on federal lands

1884
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,200
because we have the forest service, we

1885
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:42,202
have the bureau of land management, bureau

1886
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,602
of reclinations, around the auburn and

1887
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,200
foothill area and up through the sierra

1888
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:54,802
are our main partners and are there any

1889
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,200
insights you have how we can get more

1890
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,200
funding to the forest service for that

1891
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:02,602
early fuel reduction work to avoid

1892
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,200
spending 55 percent of their budget on

1893
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,200
fire fighting?

1894
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,200
>> mike you want to-

1895
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:16,200
[laughter]

1896
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:19,200
>> that is a great observation supervisor,

1897
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:23,200
and those discussions are ongoing and have

1898
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:26,200
been occurring over the past year. There

1899
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:31,402
is a lot of good in this in the

1900
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,200
infrastructure bill that money will be

1901
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,200
flowing in the first quarter in terms of

1902
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:41,200
dollars. In addition to policy change for

1903
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,200
categorical exclusion for fuel break

1904
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,200
activities which will speed up things on

1905
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:48,200
federal lands. There is also policy

1906
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,602
changes in there, such as historically

1907
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,602
when the fire service hires firefighters

1908
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,200
to fight wildfires they are considered

1909
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,200
seasonal employees and that is just-that

1910
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:05,200
is a challenge to find those folks at any

1911
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:08,200
time but when we are dealing with covid

1912
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,200
situation and labor shortages around the

1913
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,200
country, the forest service really

1914
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:17,200
struggled to find the right type of people

1915
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,200
this past cycle, so what they have done is

1916
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:24,200
created a new employee category at the

1917
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,200
forest service to bring those folks on as

1918
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:30,200
full-time employees so they have them in

1919
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:33,200
reserve when these fires do occur across

1920
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,200
the country. So, those are just a few

1921
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,200
things I would note. Really placer county

1922
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:43,200
speaks with a large voice on these issues

1923
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:47,802
because of its success on the pccp. Your

1924
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:52,200
county has a credibility here in town that

1925
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:55,200
most counties do not, particularly on

1926
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,200
resource issues, so we look forward to

1927
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:01,200
continuing to work with you on that this

1928
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,200
coming year.

1929
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,200
>> thank you. I appreciate that. I know

1930
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,200
that we are all anxious to see more

1931
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,200
funding to take care of our forests a

1932
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,200
quickly as possible and sometimes that can

1933
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:18,200
see seen in infrastructure and it is also

1934
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,200
a ongoing process we need for decades to

1935
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:22,200
come.

1936
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:25,200
>> great comments. No other questions

1937
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,200
from the board so appreciate it, look

1938
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:32,200
forward continuing to work together. It

1939
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:33,200
has been great.

1940
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,200
>> paul and karen you can take it away on

1941
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:36,200
the state side.

1942
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,200
>> good morning supervisors. Thank you for

1943
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,200
having us this morning. Karen lang with

1944
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,602
[inaudible comments] I'm going to recap

1945
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,200
how the year went and hand it off to paul

1946
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:51,200
for a good forecasting what we are looking

1947
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,200
at.

1948
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:57,200
>> [inaudible comments] very much

1949
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:58,200
incorporated.

1950
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:02,200
>> okay to keep going? I like to start

1951
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,200
with the budget looks like. We are in the

1952
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,200
enacted 21-22 budget going into

1953
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:13,200
constructing our budget we are in now. It

1954
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,200
actually took a about 4 budget cycles this

1955
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,200
year. There were 4 separate main budget

1956
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:23,200
bills passed and dozens and dozens and

1957
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,200
dozens of trailer bills to support the

1958
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:29,200
spending plan that evolved over time since

1959
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,200
we didn't know what was going to happen

1960
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,602
with the state budget. California general

1961
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:39,200
fund relies very heavily on the wealthiest

1962
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,402
californians personal income tax

1963
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,200
withholdings and capital gains and if you

1964
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,200
have been following the stock market and

1965
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:50,802
sure you have, the stock market has done

1966
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:54,200
wonderful during the pandemic and as a

1967
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,200
result the revenue in california general

1968
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,200
fund even in addition to what came from

1969
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,200
the federal relief package was levels we

1970
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,200
have never seen before particularly

1971
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,200
capital gains revenues that were realized

1972
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:08,200
in the state budget in the 10s of billions

1973
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,200
of dollars. As a result of that there was

1974
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,200
much more money to spend then I think we

1975
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,200
probably all thought we would have to

1976
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:18,202
spend in january. The enacted budget has

1977
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:23,802
a $47 billion with a b surplus built into

1978
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,200
the budget. We have $21 billion reserve.

1979
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:30,200
I do want to point out about 75 percent of

1980
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:34,200
the surplus in this budget are in now was

1981
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,200
devoted to 1 time spending and that was a

1982
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:40,200
result of the fract that as californians

1983
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:43,200
budget might correct itself a bit if the

1984
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,200
stock market corrects it is a lot easier

1985
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:49,200
to not spend one time money then to take

1986
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:53,200
down a new program that relies on ongoing

1987
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,602
funding. 75 percent of the 1 time dollars

1988
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:02,202
were spent on 1 time expenditures. We did

1989
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:07,200
get $25 million in the rescue plan and

1990
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,200
alabama california has [inaudible

1991
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:10,200
comments] to spend the dollars on

1992
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:13,200
specified allocations. We do have-I

1993
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,200
wanted to point out a couple things

1994
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,200
specifically that are of interest to the

1995
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:20,602
county. There was about $3 billion for

1996
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:24,200
job emergency and increased water

1997
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:26,200
resiliency and think there will be more of

1998
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,602
that in 22. $31 million goes to protect

1999
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,200
fish and wildlife from the changing

2000
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,200
conditions. There is also a special set

2001
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:38,200
aside for a new type of way to deal with

2002
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,200
bio mass and in the budget itself it is

2003
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:43,200
$50 million the department of conservation

2004
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:46,200
will allocate once they build the program

2005
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:48,200
it will be allocated through, but when you

2006
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:51,200
peal the union in what is called the

2007
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:52,200
budget change proposal which is what the

2008
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:56,200
state department of finance like a book

2009
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:58,200
report why they want to spend this money,

2010
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:02,202
placer county were identified by name as

2011
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:07,200
locations for which the bio mass money

2012
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:10,200
might be spent in. They want to find

2013
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:13,200
different ways to use the energy that is

2014
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:17,200
created out of bio mass. As you are

2015
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:19,200
painfully aware it is very difficult to

2016
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:21,200
interconnect to the grid for electricity

2017
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,200
that would be generated from the bio mass

2018
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:25,200
and they are looking for other ways to

2019
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:26,200
create energy sources that don't

2020
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:29,200
necessarily connect to the grid. One of

2021
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:32,200
the things mentioned in the bcp is a bio

2022
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:37,402
oil or hydrogen based fuel so we have been

2023
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:41,200
following with the department of

2024
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:42,200
conservation, their plan to allocate the

2025
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:44,200
money, they have to set up the application

2026
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,200
process but we are certainly working to

2027
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,200
position placer in a competitive position

2028
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:51,200
for the dollars and it is very clear the

2029
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,200
state would like to see you get it. There

2030
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:56,200
is also funding in what is called the

2031
02:01:56,200 --> 02:02:00,200
climate catalyst fund to deal with funding

2032
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:03,602
projects that alleviate wildfire risk and

2033
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,200
prevent wildfire again to supervisor

2034
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:09,200
gustafson's point, there is also funding

2035
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:13,200
to cal recycle to deal with the organic

2036
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:16,200
waste infrastructure. For those that

2037
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,200
follow along [inaudible comments] waste

2038
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:21,200
management authority, there is clearly a

2039
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:23,200
problem with organic diversion in the more

2040
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:26,200
rural parts of the state because you don't

2041
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:28,200
necessarily have a way to separate that

2042
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,200
out and have it collected. There is

2043
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:33,200
funding through cal recycle to assist with

2044
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:36,200
that. In addition on wildfire piece, not

2045
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:38,200
to jump around too much, we are talking

2046
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:41,200
about budget just just in the last week

2047
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,200
the board of forestry moved to put forward

2048
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:46,200
a set of regulations that are the fire

2049
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:49,200
safe regulations that came out of sb901

2050
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,200
from a couple years ago. They were trying

2051
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:55,200
to pursue it in calendar 21 but the

2052
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:57,402
regulations were incredibly controversial

2053
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:01,200
and so much opposition the board pulled it

2054
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,200
back and recrafted them and they just put

2055
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:09,602
them out. I want to commend r c r c, they

2056
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:12,200
have been a great partner. The public

2057
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:14,200
comment starts in january and only a 15

2058
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,200
day public comment period. This has

2059
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:19,200
enormous implication on your land use

2060
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:22,200
anywhere where you interact with the wild

2061
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:24,200
land urban interphase which you have a lot

2062
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:27,200
of in placer county so believe your

2063
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:29,200
planning staff is very well aware the

2064
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:32,200
regulations are going to be going back out

2065
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:35,200
for public comment. I feel it is really

2066
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:37,200
incumbent on individual counties to raise

2067
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,200
their concerns with the board as far as

2068
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,200
the feasibility of some of the components

2069
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,200
of the regulations. Certainly the

2070
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,200
regulations are intended to enhance public

2071
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:50,200
safety during a wildfire, but there are

2072
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:52,200
some things that would be very challenging

2073
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,200
I think for local governments to comply so

2074
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:56,200
I wanted to make sure you are aware.

2075
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,200
there is also a significant amount of

2076
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,200
money in the existing budget for

2077
02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:03,200
transportation. There is $4.5 billion new

2078
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,200
and discretionary that went to one time or

2079
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,200
temporary transportation infrastructure.

2080
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,200
certainly with the federal report you just

2081
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,200
heard there is more money coming on the

2082
02:04:15,200 --> 02:04:18,200
federal side. I also wanted to note the

2083
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:22,200
broadband piece as you told me a year ago

2084
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,200
I get to tell you there was $7 billion in

2085
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:29,200
the budget for broadband I would be

2086
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:32,602
confused, but the legislature did a

2087
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:36,200
wonderful job with the administration of

2088
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,200
setting aside a large amount of fund to

2089
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,200
really make a difference and huge bite at

2090
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:43,200
the apple for broadband deployment. The

2091
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:46,200
regulatory process how that will work is

2092
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:50,200
playing out at the puc. Want to commend r

2093
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:53,200
c r c making sure the rural count ies who

2094
02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:56,200
residents struggle the most with access to

2095
02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:59,200
broadband during the shelter at home

2096
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,200
order, there is set asides for rural areas

2097
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:04,200
and there are real set asides. It is not

2098
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:06,200
just a small percentage, it is big chunk

2099
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:09,200
of money to invest in the middle mile.

2100
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,602
moving to housing and homelessness, about

2101
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:16,602
$7.4 billion across 30 programs are in the

2102
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:23,200
state budget and think you will see more

2103
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,200
investment in 22 with those programs. Our

2104
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:28,200
funding cycles are a little different then

2105
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:31,200
the federal government. Frankly about

2106
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,200
every week we send out an announcement on

2107
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:39,200
a chance to comment on new regulations for

2108
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:42,200
a grant program or announcing that a new

2109
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,200
grant program is out, so it is happening

2110
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:47,200
very quickly at hcd. They are pushing out

2111
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:50,200
money as fast as they can and programs as

2112
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:53,200
fast as they can to support the

2113
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,200
development of housing in california.

2114
02:05:56,200 --> 02:05:58,200
been trying to send out fast as they come

2115
02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:03,402
in. Finally, before I hand it to paul the

2116
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:07,200
legislature has been working to transition

2117
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:11,200
away from fines and fees are collected

2118
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:14,602
from folks interacting with the criminal

2119
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:18,602
system. However the program is built

2120
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:23,200
based on fines and fees and there is a buy

2121
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:25,200
out of fines and fees included in the

2122
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:28,200
enact 21-22 budget. It is about $125

2123
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,200
million and then going forward it will be

2124
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:34,200
hundred million. Csac is working with the

2125
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:36,200
administration on developing how the funds

2126
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:40,802
will flow and I would-we just pay close

2127
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:43,200
attention to how it effects your budget.

2128
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:45,200
I'm sure your budget folks are watching

2129
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:47,200
directly as well, but that is a big piece

2130
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:50,200
and I think those that participate through

2131
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:53,200
the csac policy committee will hear about

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02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:54,200
the development of the applications to

2133
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:57,200
make sure everybody got what was needed to

2134
02:06:57,200 --> 02:07:00,200
not hold you in harms way as the

2135
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:02,200
legislature moved away from the fines and

2136
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,200
fees for the sort of lower level

2137
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:08,200
infractions. With that, I'll hand it over

2138
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:09,200
to paul.

2139
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,602
>> thanks. Paul, are you there? Looks

2140
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:21,200
like you are muted.

2141
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:23,200
>> how is this?

2142
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,200
>> much better we can hear you.

2143
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,200
>> I want to apologize are on that note I

2144
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:31,200
have a typical zoom setup that I use and I

2145
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:34,200
came in to the office this morning and it

2146
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,200
didn't-it was not working. On the up

2147
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:40,200
side, I am able to get my giant gnome into

2148
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:42,200
the picture behind me so I got that going

2149
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:45,200
for me. Good morning. Thank you karen.

2150
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,200
couple things very very quickly. First of

2151
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:51,200
all covid tomorrow we enter back into

2152
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:54,200
indoor mask mandate per the governor.

2153
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:56,200
that is expected right now to extend

2154
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,200
through january 15. I know there was

2155
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,602
comments earlier today on that. Similarly

2156
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:05,200
just to make sure for the public's

2157
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:08,200
benefit, we are in a state of emergency

2158
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,200
per the governor through march 15.

2159
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:14,200
hopefully that will be the end. But both

2160
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:18,200
of those are in effect as of-one currently

2161
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:22,202
and one as of tomorrow. So, the

2162
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,200
legislature has a couple more pieces of

2163
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:28,602
business before they shut down in

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02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:31,200
december. Most notably for a lot of

2165
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:32,200
counties will be informational hearing

2166
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:35,602
tomorrow on possibly reform of the

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02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:41,200
[inaudible comments] lps act as it is more

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02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:44,200
commonly referred to. That has to do with

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02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:47,200
the circumstances under which folks who

2170
02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:51,200
are incapable of taking care of themselves

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02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:55,200
can be taken in and detained for at least

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02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:58,200
72 hours as the board is aware. We do

2173
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:01,200
think there may be additional reform in

2174
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,200
the area in 2022 and there is one bill to

2175
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,602
watch, senate bill 516 by senator eagleman

2176
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:10,200
who will be up on the dais tomorrow with

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02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:14,200
the chairs of the assembly held judiciary

2178
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:18,200
committee as they discuss reform so we are

2179
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,200
making the counties very aware of those

2180
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:22,200
activities. We'll continue to track that

2181
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:25,200
for you. They will come back, take a

2182
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,200
break and come back monday january 3.

2183
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:30,200
especially for the public benefit I want

2184
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:34,200
to make sure folks know the capital

2185
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:37,200
essentially won't be open not because of

2186
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:40,200
covid but because it is being redone,

2187
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:43,200
remade. There is now a 10 story so called

2188
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,200
swing space office space into which the

2189
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,602
legislature is moving as I speak.

2190
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,200
hearings will be conducted there, so they

2191
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:57,200
will be open we hope, coming out of covid

2192
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,200
but on the other hand if you are used to

2193
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:01,200
coming to the capital you will not go

2194
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:02,200
there, you will go to a different building

2195
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:06,802
across the street and will be very very

2196
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:08,200
different then usual. You have to be

2197
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:11,200
badged up from the first floor. The

2198
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:14,602
offices are smaller, only legislatures and

2199
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:17,200
chief of staff have doors, and a lot of

2200
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:21,200
conversations are going to occur out in

2201
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,200
the open. Just when you think advocacy

2202
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:28,200
can't get stranger in california, in fact

2203
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,200
it probably will for the next couple

2204
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:33,200
years, because of the capital rebuild.

2205
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:35,200
the next budget and think karen mentioned

2206
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:39,802
will be out january 10. One thing we want

2207
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:42,200
to make sure the board staff are aware of

2208
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:44,200
and the public, we do think the governor

2209
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,200
is going to propose to do more with

2210
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:49,200
respect to homelessness. We think the

2211
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:51,200
emphasis going into 22, 23 will be on

2212
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,602
mental health and substance abuse and

2213
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:58,200
trying to bolster programs in those

2214
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,602
regards. We are hopeful governor newsom

2215
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:05,200
will propose funding to the counties for

2216
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:09,202
those purpose. This is a very educated

2217
02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:11,200
guess and we know where some of the

2218
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:14,602
governor staff have been making visits

2219
02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:19,200
around the state the last couple months.

2220
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:23,202
folks may want to google hummingbird sf.

2221
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:28,200
humming bird san francisco a program

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02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:30,200
already in effect with a relatively high

2223
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,200
success rate and we know for a fact the

2224
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:35,200
governor's staff is enamored of that so we

2225
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:38,200
may see in the january temp proposal very

2226
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:40,402
specifically encouragement if not

2227
02:11:41,200 --> 02:11:44,200
additional funding to the counties to

2228
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,200
develop and sustain programming along

2229
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:49,602
those lines of hummingbird san francisco.

2230
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:54,200
january the second year of the two year

2231
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:56,200
session because we do have two year

2232
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:59,200
sessions in california. January is the in

2233
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:00,200
second year are different. Bills

2234
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:04,802
introduced last year can and will move the

2235
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:08,200
instance the legislature comes back and it

2236
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:12,200
is very important to underscore that to

2237
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:15,200
you and the public that a bill you might

2238
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:19,200
have thought was on ice or had died in

2239
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,602
2021 by virtual of two procedural actions

2240
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:27,200
in january can be heard on the floor.

2241
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:30,200
taken off the enacted file and heard on

2242
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:32,200
the floor and some instances sent

2243
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:33,200
immediately to the governor. That is very

2244
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:36,200
very different then what can occur in the

2245
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:39,200
first year of a 2 year cycle and we want

2246
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,200
to make sure everyone is aware of that.

2247
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:43,200
we think because of the state surplus

2248
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,200
estimated currently by the legislative

2249
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:49,200
analyst at $31 billion but buried in the

2250
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:52,200
same report the analyst says it can go as

2251
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:55,200
high as $60 billion. We think the

2252
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:58,200
legislature is going to start budget

2253
02:12:58,200 --> 02:12:59,200
subcommittee hearing sooner then they

2254
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,200
typically would. We are hearing february.

2255
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:05,200
we actually would not be surprised if

2256
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:07,200
there is budget action taken by the

2257
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,200
legislature in january. Again,ing I think

2258
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:12,200
that is just a function of the money and

2259
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:13,200
also the fact they have legislative

2260
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:17,200
vehicles again since we are in second year

2261
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:19,200
of the two year cycle bills are in the

2262
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:22,200
second house and can be quickly amended

2263
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:24,200
and sent to the governor just like that so

2264
02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:27,200
we may see state budgeting in january.

2265
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:30,200
possibly drought relating and fire related

2266
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:33,200
would be the two at the top sof of the

2267
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,602
list joel mentioned redistricting. In two

2268
02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:40,402
minutes the california redistricting

2269
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:44,200
commission will begin the hearing today.

2270
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:47,200
he was correct saying they are probably

2271
02:13:47,200 --> 02:13:49,200
going to wrap up the work very very

2272
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:51,200
quickly. I listened to most of the

2273
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:52,200
hearing last night. For those that are

2274
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:56,200
not aware there is a back and forth with

2275
02:13:56,200 --> 02:13:59,200
respect to the mountain counties and where

2276
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:01,200
they get population for certain

2277
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:03,200
congressional seat and the decision before

2278
02:14:03,200 --> 02:14:05,200
the commission is really a lot of

2279
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:09,802
roseville or a lot of modesto. We don't

2280
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:11,200
know where they will land. I done know

2281
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:14,200
where they will land after listening to 7

2282
02:14:14,200 --> 02:14:16,200
hours of testimony yesterday, but we

2283
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:20,202
probably will know that very very shortly

2284
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:24,200
here. Joel mentioned initiatives and glad

2285
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:27,300
he did. Do want to underscore one

2286
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:30,300
initiative that legalize sports wager in

2287
02:14:30,300 --> 02:14:31,300
california is expected to produce if it

2288
02:14:31,300 --> 02:14:34,300
passes hundreds of million dollars of

2289
02:14:34,300 --> 02:14:37,300
dollars annually for the counties to

2290
02:14:37,300 --> 02:14:39,300
combat mental health and substance abuse

2291
02:14:39,300 --> 02:14:42,603
issues in the homeless population. That's

2292
02:14:44,300 --> 02:14:46,300
not only something that could be dealt

2293
02:14:46,300 --> 02:14:50,203
with the governor and legislature, it is

2294
02:14:51,300 --> 02:14:53,300
something that will be pushed on the

2295
02:14:53,300 --> 02:14:55,300
statewide ballot and have competing

2296
02:14:55,300 --> 02:14:58,300
measures as mentioned. On redistricting

2297
02:14:59,300 --> 02:15:03,300
and going back to the chaos possibly of

2298
02:15:03,300 --> 02:15:05,300
2022, we are not just going have a new

2299
02:15:05,300 --> 02:15:07,300
building within which the legislature will

2300
02:15:07,300 --> 02:15:11,300
work, we are losing legislators at a rate

2301
02:15:11,300 --> 02:15:13,300
of about one a week. They are not just

2302
02:15:13,300 --> 02:15:16,300
noticing they won't run for reelection.

2303
02:15:16,300 --> 02:15:19,300
some are resigning and taking other jobs.

2304
02:15:19,300 --> 02:15:22,300
I are think by the end of this week karen

2305
02:15:22,300 --> 02:15:25,300
can correct me, there may be as many as 5

2306
02:15:25,300 --> 02:15:27,300
or 6 vacancies in the assembly. That will

2307
02:15:27,300 --> 02:15:30,300
make things pretty interesting as the year

2308
02:15:30,300 --> 02:15:32,300
unfolds. We also have the circumstance

2309
02:15:32,300 --> 02:15:35,300
where members of the legislature depending

2310
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:39,203
on where the redistricting decide to draw

2311
02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:43,300
the lines members of the legislature

2312
02:15:43,300 --> 02:15:46,300
living in the same district with one

2313
02:15:46,300 --> 02:15:49,300
another. One example in la I can give and

2314
02:15:49,300 --> 02:15:51,300
wrap up quickly and happy to take

2315
02:15:51,300 --> 02:15:53,300
questions of course is that right now in

2316
02:15:53,300 --> 02:15:57,300
la there is a proposed district within

2317
02:15:57,300 --> 02:16:00,300
which 4 incumbent assembly members of the

2318
02:16:00,300 --> 02:16:03,603
same party currently reside. How that

2319
02:16:04,300 --> 02:16:09,300
shakes out-I don't to be in that room. It

2320
02:16:09,300 --> 02:16:11,300
will be very interesting discussions as

2321
02:16:11,300 --> 02:16:13,300
the members decide who is running for what

2322
02:16:13,300 --> 02:16:17,203
going forward. That will in fact impact

2323
02:16:22,300 --> 02:16:24,300
legislation in 2020. We will be ready as

2324
02:16:24,300 --> 02:16:27,300
we can for citizens of placer. I will

2325
02:16:27,300 --> 02:16:30,300
wrap up there. I want to say likewise it

2326
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:33,300
is heck of a ride and look forward to one

2327
02:16:33,300 --> 02:16:37,300
more year working with you and other 4

2328
02:16:37,300 --> 02:16:39,300
board members so thank you, we'll take

2329
02:16:39,300 --> 02:16:40,300
questions now.

2330
02:16:40,300 --> 02:16:42,300
>> thanks paul. Questions of karen and

2331
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:46,203
paul by board members. I see none.

2332
02:16:47,300 --> 02:16:49,300
thanks to you two both. Look forward

2333
02:16:49,300 --> 02:16:51,300
working with you further. It has been

2334
02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:54,300
great long relationship for me personally,

2335
02:16:54,300 --> 02:16:57,300
so I think we are doing great work and

2336
02:16:57,300 --> 02:17:01,300
great to hear a lot of [inaudible

2337
02:17:01,300 --> 02:17:02,300
comments]

2338
02:17:02,300 --> 02:17:04,300
so thanks. Anyone from the public wish to

2339
02:17:04,300 --> 02:17:08,203
address this item? Seeing none, I'm going

2340
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:11,300
to change my mind again and skip to item-

2341
02:17:11,300 --> 02:17:15,300
>> we still have to discuss the platform.

2342
02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:16,300
>> sorry.

2343
02:17:16,300 --> 02:17:19,300
>> in the second part of today's

2344
02:17:19,300 --> 02:17:22,300
presentation is for the board to discuss

2345
02:17:22,300 --> 02:17:24,300
and possibly approve the legislative

2346
02:17:24,300 --> 02:17:27,603
platform for 2022. The platform is proved

2347
02:17:29,300 --> 02:17:32,300
near the beginning of each year and a

2348
02:17:32,300 --> 02:17:35,300
culmination of hard work by county staff

2349
02:17:35,300 --> 02:17:37,300
department heads and contracted lobbyist.

2350
02:17:37,300 --> 02:17:39,300
the platform is intended to be a living

2351
02:17:39,300 --> 02:17:43,300
document and not always possible for staff

2352
02:17:43,300 --> 02:17:45,300
and others to anticipate any additional

2353
02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:48,300
legislative regulatory or budget issues

2354
02:17:49,300 --> 02:17:52,300
that may arise. The board may review this

2355
02:17:52,300 --> 02:17:53,300
document on a periodic basis modify the

2356
02:17:53,300 --> 02:17:56,603
document however they please. It also

2357
02:17:57,300 --> 02:17:59,300
provides direction to myself county staff

2358
02:17:59,300 --> 02:18:02,300
county executive office departments and

2359
02:18:03,300 --> 02:18:05,300
legislative advocates on positions that

2360
02:18:05,300 --> 02:18:08,300
the board may take public support

2361
02:18:08,300 --> 02:18:11,300
positions opposition positions and key

2362
02:18:11,300 --> 02:18:14,300
policy initiatives that county staff works

2363
02:18:14,300 --> 02:18:17,300
on. Among some the bigger changes in this

2364
02:18:17,300 --> 02:18:20,603
year's platform is detailed version to

2365
02:18:21,300 --> 02:18:23,300
forest management and wildfire risk

2366
02:18:23,300 --> 02:18:26,300
reduction issues. More detailed housing

2367
02:18:26,300 --> 02:18:29,300
the homeless issues in key policy areas

2368
02:18:29,300 --> 02:18:31,300
surrounding that. And then one major

2369
02:18:31,300 --> 02:18:34,300
focus this year on the staff side would be

2370
02:18:34,300 --> 02:18:37,300
really focusing on the regulatory rule

2371
02:18:37,300 --> 02:18:39,300
making process at the state level. It is

2372
02:18:39,300 --> 02:18:42,300
not a convenient process. On the federal

2373
02:18:42,300 --> 02:18:44,300
level they do have the federal register

2374
02:18:44,300 --> 02:18:46,300
which is a one stop shop on the state side

2375
02:18:46,300 --> 02:18:48,300
they don't have that. They have a small

2376
02:18:48,300 --> 02:18:51,300
little office of administrative law which

2377
02:18:51,300 --> 02:18:53,300
reviews everything after the fact. It is

2378
02:18:53,300 --> 02:18:55,300
a big priority on the staff side to really

2379
02:18:55,300 --> 02:18:58,300
keep your board apprised of any rules and

2380
02:18:58,300 --> 02:19:01,300
regulations that may arise throughout the

2381
02:19:01,300 --> 02:19:04,300
year through state agencies. Lastly,

2382
02:19:06,300 --> 02:19:09,300
staff will continue to provide the board

2383
02:19:09,300 --> 02:19:11,300
formal positions the county takes on

2384
02:19:11,300 --> 02:19:14,300
legislation through periodic updates and

2385
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:18,300
board reports and information and continue

2386
02:19:18,300 --> 02:19:21,300
to update the website for public knowledge

2387
02:19:21,300 --> 02:19:23,300
for formal positions the board may take.

2388
02:19:23,300 --> 02:19:26,300
with that, I'm happy to take questions or

2389
02:19:26,300 --> 02:19:28,300
have discussion on the platform.

2390
02:19:28,300 --> 02:19:31,300
>> thanks joel and sorry I jumped ahead.

2391
02:19:31,300 --> 02:19:32,300
bonnie.

2392
02:19:32,300 --> 02:19:33,300
>> thank you joel and thank you for the

2393
02:19:33,300 --> 02:19:37,300
in-depth briefing you gave probably all of

2394
02:19:37,300 --> 02:19:41,300
us this past week. Appreciate the work

2395
02:19:41,300 --> 02:19:43,300
you have done. Really important we focus

2396
02:19:43,300 --> 02:19:46,300
on fire and forest management as we know

2397
02:19:46,300 --> 02:19:49,603
as supervisor gustafson has said. I'm

2398
02:19:50,300 --> 02:19:52,300
certainly supportive of the platform you

2399
02:19:52,300 --> 02:19:54,300
worked really hard this last year. I like

2400
02:19:54,300 --> 02:19:56,300
to ask my colleagues one question

2401
02:19:56,300 --> 02:19:58,300
something I like to include in our

2402
02:19:58,300 --> 02:20:02,300
advocacy. We as a board have discussed

2403
02:20:02,300 --> 02:20:05,300
that we don't like state mandates. We

2404
02:20:05,300 --> 02:20:08,603
have shown our frustration and quite

2405
02:20:09,300 --> 02:20:12,300
frankly definitely frustration about the

2406
02:20:12,300 --> 02:20:14,300
state mandates they continue to hand down.

2407
02:20:14,300 --> 02:20:18,803
we really believe in local control and I

2408
02:20:19,300 --> 02:20:21,300
believe in personal choice so I would like

2409
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:23,300
our board to consider including in our

2410
02:20:23,300 --> 02:20:27,300
advocacy platform that we would oppose any

2411
02:20:27,300 --> 02:20:30,300
legislation or regulation that mandates

2412
02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:33,300
vaccination or proof of vaccination.

2413
02:20:34,300 --> 02:20:38,300
>> I think joel just to frame up for

2414
02:20:38,300 --> 02:20:42,203
discussion we have a element that emphasis

2415
02:20:43,300 --> 02:20:45,300
local control and long had so anticipate

2416
02:20:45,300 --> 02:20:48,300
this will be a embellishing and grating

2417
02:20:48,300 --> 02:20:51,603
level of specificity for that. Probably

2418
02:20:52,300 --> 02:20:55,603
need guidance what that verbiage would

2419
02:20:56,300 --> 02:20:57,300
look like.

2420
02:20:57,300 --> 02:21:00,300
>> for the specificity purposes, for staff

2421
02:21:00,300 --> 02:21:02,300
to work best I would need a little more

2422
02:21:02,300 --> 02:21:05,300
detail around that whether it's just the

2423
02:21:05,300 --> 02:21:08,603
broad vague opposing vaccine mandates or

2424
02:21:09,300 --> 02:21:11,300
just on the private sector, public sector?

2425
02:21:11,300 --> 02:21:14,300
how do we see fit? Local control is

2426
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:17,300
typically related to our own governance as

2427
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:19,300
it is currently written so typically

2428
02:21:19,300 --> 02:21:23,300
surrounding the land use side of things.

2429
02:21:23,300 --> 02:21:25,300
but if the board is so willing to take a

2430
02:21:25,300 --> 02:21:28,300
formal position to oppose vaccine mandates

2431
02:21:28,300 --> 02:21:31,300
for not only county employees and county

2432
02:21:31,300 --> 02:21:33,300
operational aspects but for the private

2433
02:21:33,300 --> 02:21:37,300
sector as well I would need that

2434
02:21:37,300 --> 02:21:38,300
specificity.

2435
02:21:38,300 --> 02:21:40,300
>> procedurally thinking we can consider

2436
02:21:40,300 --> 02:21:42,300
and adopt what we have in front of us

2437
02:21:42,300 --> 02:21:44,300
today if three want to do that and then

2438
02:21:44,300 --> 02:21:47,603
consider perhaps a modification to come

2439
02:21:48,300 --> 02:21:50,300
back based on general direction you hear

2440
02:21:50,300 --> 02:21:53,300
today as a pathway forward.

2441
02:21:54,300 --> 02:21:57,300
>> I agree with that approach. I think it

2442
02:21:57,300 --> 02:21:59,300
needs more discussion as to what we are

2443
02:21:59,300 --> 02:22:01,300
opposing and why and how it would be

2444
02:22:01,300 --> 02:22:02,300
worded.

2445
02:22:02,300 --> 02:22:06,300
>> maybe kind of just go around and we can

2446
02:22:06,300 --> 02:22:09,300
chime in and that's the commonalty among 3

2447
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:13,300
or 5 hopefully we can clarify that and

2448
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:16,300
take that approach, but just I support

2449
02:22:16,300 --> 02:22:20,300
what you are saying bonnie. Personally I

2450
02:22:20,300 --> 02:22:23,300
haven't seen anything after having studied

2451
02:22:23,300 --> 02:22:26,300
the issue quite a bit that wants me to

2452
02:22:26,300 --> 02:22:30,203
mandate anything with regards to covid and

2453
02:22:31,300 --> 02:22:33,300
I can talk about that at nauseam I guess

2454
02:22:33,300 --> 02:22:38,300
but that is my bottom line so if partially

2455
02:22:38,300 --> 02:22:40,300
related to employment private public

2456
02:22:40,300 --> 02:22:43,300
sector it is easier. I certainly am

2457
02:22:43,300 --> 02:22:45,300
comfortable with our health department

2458
02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:47,300
talking about recommendations for vaccines

2459
02:22:47,300 --> 02:22:50,300
and boosters and those kinds of things,

2460
02:22:50,300 --> 02:22:53,300
but where I am personally is I do not

2461
02:22:53,300 --> 02:22:56,300
support any of the mandates that have thus

2462
02:22:56,300 --> 02:22:59,300
been dictated or brought forward under

2463
02:22:59,300 --> 02:23:02,300
emergency orders either at the state or

2464
02:23:02,300 --> 02:23:05,300
federal level and I much prefer all of

2465
02:23:05,300 --> 02:23:08,300
that activity being done locally with the

2466
02:23:08,300 --> 02:23:11,300
county public health. Jim you want to add

2467
02:23:11,300 --> 02:23:13,300
to that? Go around that way.

2468
02:23:13,300 --> 02:23:16,300
>> I have no objection to bringing it

2469
02:23:16,300 --> 02:23:17,300
back. -

2470
02:23:17,300 --> 02:23:19,300
>> bring it back but with direction based

2471
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:20,300
on what the 5-

2472
02:23:20,300 --> 02:23:23,300
>> I think we can all meet with joel

2473
02:23:23,300 --> 02:23:24,300
individually.

2474
02:23:24,300 --> 02:23:25,300
>> yeah.

2475
02:23:25,300 --> 02:23:28,300
>> give our perspective to him so have no

2476
02:23:28,300 --> 02:23:30,300
objection.

2477
02:23:30,300 --> 02:23:31,300
>> suzanne.

2478
02:23:31,300 --> 02:23:34,300
>> yes. I am in agreement that I'm

2479
02:23:34,300 --> 02:23:38,300
against and opposed to all mandates. Be

2480
02:23:38,300 --> 02:23:41,300
vaccine mandates, passport mandates, even

2481
02:23:43,300 --> 02:23:46,300
mask mandates so in agreement with bonnie

2482
02:23:46,300 --> 02:23:50,300
and robert in that we do what we can.

2483
02:23:50,300 --> 02:23:51,300
>> bonnie.

2484
02:23:51,300 --> 02:23:54,300
>> thank you and I think is worthwhile

2485
02:23:54,300 --> 02:23:57,300
advocating for especially for our own

2486
02:23:57,300 --> 02:24:00,300
employees number one. I do not want to

2487
02:24:00,300 --> 02:24:02,300
see us mandating something where people

2488
02:24:02,300 --> 02:24:05,300
should have a personal choice as well as

2489
02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:08,300
they have options. We really been working

2490
02:24:08,300 --> 02:24:11,300
with our staff to give them options. At a

2491
02:24:11,300 --> 02:24:15,803
broader level, I think that we can support

2492
02:24:16,300 --> 02:24:18,300
no vaccinations allowing people have to

2493
02:24:18,300 --> 02:24:21,300
personal choice. There are folks who

2494
02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:24,300
wanted us to mandate mandates or mandate

2495
02:24:24,300 --> 02:24:26,300
no mandates. I want us to not have a

2496
02:24:26,300 --> 02:24:28,300
mandate and want to encourage our

2497
02:24:28,300 --> 02:24:30,300
residents to let them know that we don't

2498
02:24:30,300 --> 02:24:34,300
want to see mandates handed down from the

2499
02:24:34,300 --> 02:24:36,300
state or federal government for our

2500
02:24:36,300 --> 02:24:38,300
residents. If we have to find a balance

2501
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:42,803
of that where we are advocating I'm okay

2502
02:24:43,300 --> 02:24:45,300
but I do think we need to stand strong and

2503
02:24:45,300 --> 02:24:49,803
just say we-this is not appropriate for us

2504
02:24:51,300 --> 02:24:55,203
as americans and I'm so very distressed

2505
02:24:58,300 --> 02:25:00,300
about what these vaccine mandates are

2506
02:25:00,300 --> 02:25:04,300
doing to our law enforcement to our

2507
02:25:04,300 --> 02:25:07,300
healthcare workers, to our military. We

2508
02:25:07,300 --> 02:25:10,300
are losing people in occupations right and

2509
02:25:10,300 --> 02:25:13,300
left because they are making a choice for

2510
02:25:13,300 --> 02:25:15,300
themselves and our government is saying

2511
02:25:15,300 --> 02:25:19,300
well, your choice doesn't matter and you

2512
02:25:19,300 --> 02:25:21,300
lose your job. I certainly do not want

2513
02:25:21,300 --> 02:25:25,300
that to hap in in placer county.

2514
02:25:25,300 --> 02:25:27,300
shouldn't happen anywhere. And I do

2515
02:25:27,300 --> 02:25:30,300
believe that local businesses also have a

2516
02:25:30,300 --> 02:25:33,300
choice. A local business owner can make a

2517
02:25:33,300 --> 02:25:35,300
choice for what's best for them and I

2518
02:25:35,300 --> 02:25:40,403
don't want to as a local entity tell them

2519
02:25:41,300 --> 02:25:44,300
they can't have something in their local

2520
02:25:44,300 --> 02:25:46,300
business. If we say local control we want

2521
02:25:46,300 --> 02:25:47,300
local businesses to have their choice

2522
02:25:47,300 --> 02:25:51,300
about what works for them as they try to

2523
02:25:51,300 --> 02:25:53,300
navigate staying open and taking care of

2524
02:25:53,300 --> 02:25:56,300
their employees, so I appreciate you all

2525
02:25:56,300 --> 02:25:58,300
hearing what I have to say and looks there

2526
02:25:58,300 --> 02:26:01,300
are a couple more lights on again.

2527
02:26:01,300 --> 02:26:04,300
>> so, suzanne did you have something more

2528
02:26:04,300 --> 02:26:05,300
to add?

2529
02:26:05,300 --> 02:26:09,300
>> yeah, I just are wanted to add that

2530
02:26:09,300 --> 02:26:12,300
the-my voicing against mandates for all I

2531
02:26:12,300 --> 02:26:14,300
include county employees and private

2532
02:26:14,300 --> 02:26:17,300
sector as well. Our businesses and

2533
02:26:17,300 --> 02:26:19,300
restaurants are just now in the process of

2534
02:26:19,300 --> 02:26:22,300
recovering and I think I know our own

2535
02:26:22,300 --> 02:26:24,300
economic interests are the upmost

2536
02:26:24,300 --> 02:26:27,300
importance for all those working living

2537
02:26:27,300 --> 02:26:30,300
working in-I include schools if we could,

2538
02:26:30,300 --> 02:26:32,300
but we don't have that control and

2539
02:26:32,300 --> 02:26:34,300
authority. Thank you.

2540
02:26:35,300 --> 02:26:36,300
>> cindy.

2541
02:26:36,300 --> 02:26:40,300
>> I just wanted to clarify, we know the

2542
02:26:40,300 --> 02:26:43,300
public is very engaged and want to come if

2543
02:26:43,300 --> 02:26:45,300
they knew we would take a position such as

2544
02:26:45,300 --> 02:26:47,300
this so I want to make sure that we open

2545
02:26:47,300 --> 02:26:49,300
that up and I understand who will be

2546
02:26:49,300 --> 02:26:52,300
chairing that meeting if things go in a

2547
02:26:52,300 --> 02:26:56,203
normal rotation, and so thank you merry

2548
02:26:57,300 --> 02:26:58,300
christmas.

2549
02:26:58,300 --> 02:27:00,300
[laughter]

2550
02:27:03,300 --> 02:27:07,300
it is very controversial item and would be

2551
02:27:07,300 --> 02:27:10,300
specific which vaccines. There are many

2552
02:27:10,300 --> 02:27:12,300
vaccines mandated in a variety of existing

2553
02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:14,403
professions and other inoculations

2554
02:27:18,300 --> 02:27:20,300
required so we need to be very specific

2555
02:27:20,300 --> 02:27:23,300
about this vaccine I think is what you are

2556
02:27:23,300 --> 02:27:24,300
talking about and make clear what we are

2557
02:27:24,300 --> 02:27:27,300
going to have for the public to discuss on

2558
02:27:27,300 --> 02:27:28,300
mandates in general.

2559
02:27:28,300 --> 02:27:31,300
>> so, why don't we consider our existing

2560
02:27:31,300 --> 02:27:33,300
legislative platform. I think staff heard

2561
02:27:33,300 --> 02:27:37,300
some notions and of course we individually

2562
02:27:37,300 --> 02:27:40,300
are available to get together with joel to

2563
02:27:40,300 --> 02:27:43,300
provide clarity and take it from there.

2564
02:27:43,300 --> 02:27:46,300
is there anyone else from the public who

2565
02:27:46,300 --> 02:27:50,203
would like to address this item? So,

2566
02:27:52,300 --> 02:27:54,300
before us-pardon?

2567
02:27:59,300 --> 02:28:02,603
>> so, I'm jennifer again still. My

2568
02:28:04,300 --> 02:28:08,300
question is, do we have to have cal osha

2569
02:28:08,300 --> 02:28:10,300
regulations in our county? Because I

2570
02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:14,803
would like to see my understanding is the

2571
02:28:15,300 --> 02:28:17,300
osha regulations and I'm not a law person,

2572
02:28:17,300 --> 02:28:20,300
but just my understanding is it is a

2573
02:28:20,300 --> 02:28:23,300
mandate so it isn't a law necessarily, so

2574
02:28:23,300 --> 02:28:27,300
can we somehow include not having the osha

2575
02:28:27,300 --> 02:28:31,203
regulations in placer county as well and

2576
02:28:32,300 --> 02:28:33,300
either leave it up to businesses as they

2577
02:28:33,300 --> 02:28:37,300
see fit, or maybe that's not a option.

2578
02:28:37,300 --> 02:28:39,300
>> thanks.

2579
02:28:45,300 --> 02:28:47,300
>> michael go ahead and unmute your mic

2580
02:28:47,300 --> 02:28:49,300
and give your comments.

2581
02:28:49,300 --> 02:28:52,603
>> yeah. Hi. Very encouraged by this

2582
02:28:53,300 --> 02:28:56,300
conversation. I appreciate you guys

2583
02:28:56,300 --> 02:28:59,300
bringing this up. I would say that there

2584
02:28:59,300 --> 02:29:03,300
is a question about well, do we oppose a

2585
02:29:03,300 --> 02:29:07,300
mandate for private businesses as well. I

2586
02:29:07,300 --> 02:29:09,300
would say yes, because it is a

2587
02:29:09,300 --> 02:29:11,300
constitutional freedom. We should have

2588
02:29:11,300 --> 02:29:14,603
our right to make our decision.

2589
02:29:15,300 --> 02:29:18,603
regardless of what the employer thinks.

2590
02:29:20,300 --> 02:29:24,300
and there-I don't know if you aware and

2591
02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:26,300
don't know if I can recall off the top,

2592
02:29:26,300 --> 02:29:28,300
but there is many laws, federal laws

2593
02:29:28,300 --> 02:29:31,603
against mandating vaccines. So, there is

2594
02:29:34,300 --> 02:29:38,203
also the nuremberg study for the employer

2595
02:29:41,300 --> 02:29:44,300
to mandate it in a lot of cases employees

2596
02:29:44,300 --> 02:29:46,300
don't feel they have a choice. They

2597
02:29:46,300 --> 02:29:49,300
either take a chance on a experimental

2598
02:29:49,300 --> 02:29:52,603
emergency authorized wonder jab or they

2599
02:29:55,300 --> 02:29:59,300
lose their job, so I would say yes, extend

2600
02:29:59,300 --> 02:30:03,203
that to private as well. Thank you.

2601
02:30:04,300 --> 02:30:06,300
>> chairman I see no others.

2602
02:30:06,300 --> 02:30:08,300
>> is there a motion to approve-

2603
02:30:08,300 --> 02:30:09,300
>> yes, move approval.

2604
02:30:09,300 --> 02:30:10,300
>> second.

2605
02:30:10,300 --> 02:30:13,603
>> motion gustafson, second holmes, all in

2606
02:30:14,300 --> 02:30:16,300
favor aye. Opposed? Motion carries. In

2607
02:30:16,300 --> 02:30:20,803
light of our time and how horrible the

2608
02:30:22,300 --> 02:30:25,300
chair is doing, we will take up our 1015

2609
02:30:25,300 --> 02:30:27,300
timed item so michelle can leave because I

2610
02:30:27,300 --> 02:30:30,603
understand that needs to be continued.

2611
02:30:35,300 --> 02:30:38,300
>> [inaudible comments] make it quick.

2612
02:30:40,300 --> 02:30:43,300
michelle kingsbury. Staff is requesting

2613
02:30:45,300 --> 02:30:48,300
continuance of 5a. We did not receive the

2614
02:30:48,300 --> 02:30:52,203
ballot and been notified by the engineer

2615
02:30:55,300 --> 02:30:57,300
there is a change of ownership so pull off

2616
02:30:57,300 --> 02:31:01,300
the calendar to a later date as we clean

2617
02:31:01,300 --> 02:31:02,300
up the documentation.

2618
02:31:02,300 --> 02:31:04,300
>> move approval of the continuance of

2619
02:31:04,300 --> 02:31:06,300
this item.

2620
02:31:06,300 --> 02:31:09,300
>> motion gore, second gustafson. Anyone

2621
02:31:09,300 --> 02:31:10,300
from the public who would like to address

2622
02:31:10,300 --> 02:31:14,300
the item? Seeing none all in favor aye.

2623
02:31:14,300 --> 02:31:16,300
opposed? Motion carries. Thank you

2624
02:31:16,300 --> 02:31:19,603
michelle. Now we'll jump to the 1035

2625
02:31:20,300 --> 02:31:22,300
item, which is health and human services

2626
02:31:22,300 --> 02:31:25,603
homekey round 2 program application and is

2627
02:31:29,300 --> 02:31:31,300
rob going to kick it off? Y rob is

2628
02:31:31,300 --> 02:31:33,300
kicking it off.

2629
02:31:40,300 --> 02:31:43,300
>> thank you chair weygandt and members of

2630
02:31:43,300 --> 02:31:46,300
the board. Rob with hhs. Very grateful

2631
02:31:46,300 --> 02:31:49,300
to amy ellis and her team who have done

2632
02:31:49,300 --> 02:31:51,300
most of the heavy lifting on this item and

2633
02:31:51,300 --> 02:31:53,300
will hand over to amy to present on the

2634
02:31:53,300 --> 02:31:55,300
item in just a minute. But before I do

2635
02:31:55,300 --> 02:31:58,300
hand it over to amy I wanted to take a few

2636
02:31:58,300 --> 02:32:00,300
minutes to provide your board and our

2637
02:32:00,300 --> 02:32:03,300
community with a bit of context on how

2638
02:32:03,300 --> 02:32:06,300
this proposed homekey application fits

2639
02:32:06,300 --> 02:32:08,300
into the bigger picture of how we are

2640
02:32:08,300 --> 02:32:11,300
addressing homelessless in placer county.

2641
02:32:11,300 --> 02:32:13,300
as you know, we have been working hard to

2642
02:32:13,300 --> 02:32:16,300
address homelessness in placer now for

2643
02:32:16,300 --> 02:32:18,300
many years and in 2015 your board

2644
02:32:18,300 --> 02:32:21,300
contracted with dr. Robert marbit a

2645
02:32:21,300 --> 02:32:23,300
nationally recognized expert on

2646
02:32:23,300 --> 02:32:25,300
homelessness to help us evaluate and

2647
02:32:25,300 --> 02:32:27,300
improve our homelessness continuum of

2648
02:32:27,300 --> 02:32:30,300
care. Dr. Marbit's report had several

2649
02:32:30,300 --> 02:32:33,300
recommendations for us and since 2015 we

2650
02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:37,300
made good progress on most of those

2651
02:32:37,300 --> 02:32:39,300
recommendations including created

2652
02:32:39,300 --> 02:32:42,300
coordinated intake for all unhoused people

2653
02:32:42,300 --> 02:32:44,403
seeking services, coordinating information

2654
02:32:45,300 --> 02:32:47,300
sharing between the homeless services

2655
02:32:47,300 --> 02:32:49,300
providers making improvements to the

2656
02:32:49,300 --> 02:32:51,300
homeless management information system,

2657
02:32:51,300 --> 02:32:53,300
targeting programs like whole person care

2658
02:32:53,300 --> 02:32:56,300
to address chronic homelessness surging

2659
02:32:56,300 --> 02:32:59,300
back in 2015 and adding resources that

2660
02:32:59,300 --> 02:33:01,300
addressed our critical gap in emergency

2661
02:33:01,300 --> 02:33:04,300
and transitional houses and services for

2662
02:33:04,300 --> 02:33:07,603
single adults identified in the report.

2663
02:33:08,300 --> 02:33:11,300
in the last 6 years since the report

2664
02:33:11,300 --> 02:33:13,300
homelessness has surged dramatically

2665
02:33:13,300 --> 02:33:16,300
across california and in the sacramento

2666
02:33:16,300 --> 02:33:18,300
region yet we have seen much more modest

2667
02:33:18,300 --> 02:33:22,300
increases here in placer. Placer now has

2668
02:33:22,300 --> 02:33:24,300
the lowest rate of homelessness in

2669
02:33:24,300 --> 02:33:26,300
northern california and the lowest rate of

2670
02:33:26,300 --> 02:33:29,300
unsheltered homelessness in the state.

2671
02:33:29,300 --> 02:33:32,300
none the less, homelessness is a serious

2672
02:33:32,300 --> 02:33:35,300
problem and increasingly visible in

2673
02:33:35,300 --> 02:33:38,300
certain areas, particularly the homeless

2674
02:33:39,300 --> 02:33:41,300
encampments on public property like at the

2675
02:33:41,300 --> 02:33:44,300
placer conte government center. In

2676
02:33:44,300 --> 02:33:46,300
addition some of the long standing

2677
02:33:46,300 --> 02:33:48,300
approaches to addressing homelessness in

2678
02:33:48,300 --> 02:33:49,300
placer county have been called into

2679
02:33:49,300 --> 02:33:51,300
question recently and we have seen

2680
02:33:51,300 --> 02:33:53,300
increasing interest in the issue of

2681
02:33:53,300 --> 02:33:55,300
homelessness from our cities and some

2682
02:33:55,300 --> 02:33:57,300
other stakeholders who have not

2683
02:33:57,300 --> 02:34:00,300
historically participated in our continuum

2684
02:34:00,300 --> 02:34:02,300
of care. Earlier this year your board

2685
02:34:02,300 --> 02:34:05,300
director staff to organize regional

2686
02:34:05,300 --> 02:34:07,300
homelessness action plan that involved our

2687
02:34:07,300 --> 02:34:09,300
cities. That planning process kicked off

2688
02:34:09,300 --> 02:34:11,300
with the placer county regional

2689
02:34:11,300 --> 02:34:14,300
homelessness summit june 30 and for the

2690
02:34:14,300 --> 02:34:18,203
past 5 months county and city staff have

2691
02:34:19,300 --> 02:34:21,300
and elected officials have been working

2692
02:34:21,300 --> 02:34:22,300
together to learn more about our existing

2693
02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:25,300
continuum of care and been exploring how

2694
02:34:25,300 --> 02:34:28,603
to work more effectively together to

2695
02:34:32,300 --> 02:34:34,300
better prevent homelessness. The initial

2696
02:34:34,300 --> 02:34:35,300
phase of the planning process will come to

2697
02:34:35,300 --> 02:34:38,300
the end later this month. The

2698
02:34:38,300 --> 02:34:41,300
participants hope to bring recommendation

2699
02:34:42,300 --> 02:34:44,300
to this board city council and community

2700
02:34:44,300 --> 02:34:46,300
for input early next year. While the

2701
02:34:46,300 --> 02:34:48,300
regional action planning process includes

2702
02:34:48,300 --> 02:34:51,300
a set of structured and sequential steps

2703
02:34:51,300 --> 02:34:54,603
it remained flexible enough to take

2704
02:34:55,300 --> 02:34:58,603
advantage of time limit and competitive

2705
02:34:59,300 --> 02:35:00,300
opportunities that emerged during the

2706
02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:02,300
process and the process recognizes these

2707
02:35:02,300 --> 02:35:04,300
opportunities may require action before

2708
02:35:04,300 --> 02:35:07,300
the plan is complete. Today's item is one

2709
02:35:07,300 --> 02:35:10,300
such opportunity. Homekey 2.0 released in

2710
02:35:12,300 --> 02:35:13,300
september and represent a highly

2711
02:35:13,300 --> 02:35:15,300
competitive process with applications due

2712
02:35:15,300 --> 02:35:18,300
in january. Not only is the application

2713
02:35:18,300 --> 02:35:20,403
process extremely competitive applications

2714
02:35:21,300 --> 02:35:23,300
are being considered on a rolling first

2715
02:35:23,300 --> 02:35:26,300
time first serve basis thus making it

2716
02:35:26,300 --> 02:35:28,300
necessary we gain board support for as

2717
02:35:28,300 --> 02:35:30,300
many elements of the application as

2718
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:33,300
possible to insure we are viable. The

2719
02:35:33,300 --> 02:35:35,300
recommendations from the regional planning

2720
02:35:35,300 --> 02:35:38,300
process have not been finalized it is

2721
02:35:38,300 --> 02:35:39,300
understood our continuum of care is in

2722
02:35:39,300 --> 02:35:42,300
need of more housing resources. And

2723
02:35:42,300 --> 02:35:44,300
particularly more permanent supportive

2724
02:35:44,300 --> 02:35:48,300
housing. For many year our continuum of

2725
02:35:48,300 --> 02:35:50,300
care has been providing financial support

2726
02:35:50,300 --> 02:35:53,300
to non-profit to purchase and operate

2727
02:35:53,300 --> 02:35:55,300
permanent supportive housing.

2728
02:35:55,300 --> 02:35:57,300
historically most residents of permanent

2729
02:35:57,300 --> 02:35:59,300
supportive housing have been very

2730
02:35:59,300 --> 02:36:01,300
successful and not had many issues with

2731
02:36:01,300 --> 02:36:05,300
the neighbors. In the last couple years

2732
02:36:05,300 --> 02:36:07,300
there is concern expressed by a few of our

2733
02:36:07,300 --> 02:36:10,300
newer sites particularly in communities

2734
02:36:11,300 --> 02:36:13,300
that did not have much previous experience

2735
02:36:13,300 --> 02:36:16,603
with permanent supportive housing. As a

2736
02:36:17,300 --> 02:36:18,300
matter that concern and desire to work

2737
02:36:18,300 --> 02:36:20,300
more closely with our cities on

2738
02:36:20,300 --> 02:36:22,403
identifying potential permanent supporting

2739
02:36:23,300 --> 02:36:26,300
housing sites the county hasn't funded any

2740
02:36:26,300 --> 02:36:30,300
new [inaudible comments] over a year now.

2741
02:36:30,300 --> 02:36:32,300
given our collective commitment to

2742
02:36:32,300 --> 02:36:34,300
strengthen our partnership the county has

2743
02:36:34,300 --> 02:36:36,300
been working very closely with the

2744
02:36:36,300 --> 02:36:38,300
potentially impacted jurisdictions on this

2745
02:36:38,300 --> 02:36:40,300
homekey application and we look forward to

2746
02:36:40,300 --> 02:36:43,603
beginning the process of adding permanent

2747
02:36:44,300 --> 02:36:46,300
supportive housing and much needed

2748
02:36:46,300 --> 02:36:48,300
elements to our continuum of care in close

2749
02:36:48,300 --> 02:36:51,300
collaboration with our cities and other

2750
02:36:51,300 --> 02:36:53,300
jurisdictions. Before I hand it over to

2751
02:36:53,300 --> 02:36:56,300
amy ellis I wanted to publicly thank amy

2752
02:36:56,300 --> 02:36:58,300
and her team for the tremendous passion

2753
02:36:58,300 --> 02:37:00,300
knowledge and effort they brought to this

2754
02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:02,300
very challenging homekey application

2755
02:37:02,300 --> 02:37:05,300
process. I also like to thank our

2756
02:37:05,300 --> 02:37:07,300
partners internal partners like facility

2757
02:37:07,300 --> 02:37:09,403
management county counsel [inaudible

2758
02:37:12,300 --> 02:37:16,300
comments] who have done an amazing job to

2759
02:37:16,300 --> 02:37:18,300
pull challenging pieces together and what

2760
02:37:18,300 --> 02:37:21,300
has been a short response window. Without

2761
02:37:21,300 --> 02:37:24,300
further ado amy please take it away.

2762
02:37:24,300 --> 02:37:26,300
>> thank you.

2763
02:37:28,300 --> 02:37:30,300
>> just to congratulations again to rob

2764
02:37:30,300 --> 02:37:31,300
you and your team for the grants and

2765
02:37:31,300 --> 02:37:34,300
success we are having. A lot of this is

2766
02:37:34,300 --> 02:37:36,300
new territory and we are all trying to

2767
02:37:36,300 --> 02:37:39,300
figure the best path and it isn't easy, it

2768
02:37:39,300 --> 02:37:41,300
is quite difficult so congratulations for

2769
02:37:41,300 --> 02:37:45,203
the achievements you have gotten so far.

2770
02:37:46,300 --> 02:37:49,603
>> yes, thank you supervisor weygandt and

2771
02:37:51,300 --> 02:37:54,300
dr. Oldham. I want to agree our county

2772
02:37:54,300 --> 02:37:58,300
team here and partner agencies have been

2773
02:37:58,300 --> 02:38:00,300
amazing to collaborate with as typical

2774
02:38:00,300 --> 02:38:02,300
placer is a really special place to work

2775
02:38:02,300 --> 02:38:05,300
and be able to get complicated things

2776
02:38:05,300 --> 02:38:08,603
done. They are capability passionate and

2777
02:38:09,300 --> 02:38:12,300
creative problem solvers. Members of the

2778
02:38:12,300 --> 02:38:15,300
beard I am bringing two actions forward.

2779
02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:17,300
the first is adoption resolution regarding

2780
02:38:17,300 --> 02:38:19,300
the implementation of the homekey program

2781
02:38:19,300 --> 02:38:23,300
to first a, award the request for

2782
02:38:23,300 --> 02:38:26,300
proposal, rfp 20229 for mentally ill

2783
02:38:28,300 --> 02:38:30,300
housing incorporating for the operation

2784
02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:32,300
rehabilitation acquisition and transition

2785
02:38:32,300 --> 02:38:34,300
services stemming from projects roomkey

2786
02:38:34,300 --> 02:38:37,300
and homekey. B, to approve an agreement

2787
02:38:37,300 --> 02:38:39,300
with advocates for mentally housing

2788
02:38:39,300 --> 02:38:41,403
incorporated for operation rehabilitation

2789
02:38:42,300 --> 02:38:44,300
acquisition and transition services

2790
02:38:44,300 --> 02:38:48,803
stemming from as a result of rfp 20229 not

2791
02:38:52,300 --> 02:38:54,403
to exceed 4 million 692 thousand 845

2792
02:38:55,300 --> 02:38:57,403
dollars from december 14, 2021 through

2793
02:38:58,300 --> 02:39:01,300
june 30, $2023 and authorize health and

2794
02:39:03,300 --> 02:39:05,300
human subs to execute the agreement with

2795
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:07,300
risk management and county counsel and

2796
02:39:07,300 --> 02:39:10,300
sign subsequent amendments up to hundred

2797
02:39:10,300 --> 02:39:14,203
thousand. The second would be to adopt

2798
02:39:16,300 --> 02:39:18,300
resolution authorizing the director of

2799
02:39:18,300 --> 02:39:21,300
health and human services or designee to

2800
02:39:21,300 --> 02:39:23,300
apply for a grant from california housing

2801
02:39:23,300 --> 02:39:25,300
and community development for homekey

2802
02:39:25,300 --> 02:39:29,300
round two in the amount not to exceed $25

2803
02:39:29,300 --> 02:39:31,300
million and to sign the resulting

2804
02:39:31,300 --> 02:39:34,300
agreement and all related documentation

2805
02:39:35,300 --> 02:39:37,300
and forms with risk management and county

2806
02:39:37,300 --> 02:39:40,300
council concurrence. As dr. Oldham

2807
02:39:40,300 --> 02:39:42,300
mentioned thee items come forward on a

2808
02:39:42,300 --> 02:39:45,300
expedited timeline to insure the best

2809
02:39:45,300 --> 02:39:46,300
chance of being successful in the grant

2810
02:39:46,300 --> 02:39:49,300
application for homekey round two. In

2811
02:39:49,300 --> 02:39:51,300
order to potentially bring a new project

2812
02:39:51,300 --> 02:39:54,300
to the south placer region. On september

2813
02:39:54,300 --> 02:39:57,300
9, 2021 the department of housing and

2814
02:39:57,300 --> 02:40:00,300
community development issued a notice of

2815
02:40:00,300 --> 02:40:02,300
funding available for the round two

2816
02:40:02,300 --> 02:40:05,603
funding of homekey. This $1.45 billion of

2817
02:40:07,300 --> 02:40:10,300
funding is meant to build on the project

2818
02:40:10,300 --> 02:40:14,300
of roomkey and first round of homekey.

2819
02:40:14,300 --> 02:40:18,300
our first program was the brown bear stew

2820
02:40:18,300 --> 02:40:21,300
studios in king's beach. In the past few

2821
02:40:21,300 --> 02:40:24,300
years placer county has been able to seek

2822
02:40:24,300 --> 02:40:26,300
state funding to add additional units of

2823
02:40:26,300 --> 02:40:28,300
permanent supportive housing for

2824
02:40:28,300 --> 02:40:30,300
renovating apartment buildings and or

2825
02:40:30,300 --> 02:40:33,603
hotels and motels. By renovating existing

2826
02:40:34,300 --> 02:40:37,300
structures we have been able to add

2827
02:40:37,300 --> 02:40:39,300
additional units of very low housing

2828
02:40:39,300 --> 02:40:42,300
income housing for roughly 175 to 250

2829
02:40:43,300 --> 02:40:45,300
thousand per unit. These types of

2830
02:40:45,300 --> 02:40:48,300
projects create studio and small 1 or 2

2831
02:40:48,300 --> 02:40:51,603
bedroom apartments often with a small

2832
02:40:52,300 --> 02:40:55,300
kitchenette. This allows individuals who

2833
02:40:55,300 --> 02:40:57,300
would be more successful in non-shared

2834
02:40:57,300 --> 02:40:59,300
housing get out of shelters and out of

2835
02:40:59,300 --> 02:41:01,403
homelessness. Residents typically pay

2836
02:41:02,300 --> 02:41:04,300
about 30 percent of their income and

2837
02:41:04,300 --> 02:41:07,300
receive on site services geared

2838
02:41:07,300 --> 02:41:09,300
maintaining the housing and accessing

2839
02:41:09,300 --> 02:41:12,300
needed support. Placer county staff have

2840
02:41:12,300 --> 02:41:13,300
been working to prepare a home key

2841
02:41:13,300 --> 02:41:15,300
application for funding toward the

2842
02:41:15,300 --> 02:41:18,603
acquisition renovation and operation of a

2843
02:41:19,300 --> 02:41:22,300
project with potential to house between 75

2844
02:41:22,300 --> 02:41:25,300
and 90 individuals and families. It is

2845
02:41:25,300 --> 02:41:27,300
estimated that the county application will

2846
02:41:27,300 --> 02:41:30,300
request up to $25 million towards this

2847
02:41:30,300 --> 02:41:31,300
project

2848
02:41:31,300 --> 02:41:33,300
[streaming cut out]

2849
02:41:33,300 --> 02:41:36,300
fund the acquisition. Specific details

2850
02:41:39,300 --> 02:41:41,300
and public notice would be provided before

2851
02:41:41,300 --> 02:41:44,300
any acquisition of property from homekey

2852
02:41:44,300 --> 02:41:46,300
grant funds and brought to your board for

2853
02:41:46,300 --> 02:41:48,300
authorization at a later date. As a

2854
02:41:48,300 --> 02:41:50,300
result of the identified community need

2855
02:41:50,300 --> 02:41:52,300
and potential availability of state

2856
02:41:52,300 --> 02:41:55,300
funding rfp 20229 [inaudible comments] a

2857
02:41:58,300 --> 02:42:01,300
hotel or motel conversion to permanent

2858
02:42:01,300 --> 02:42:04,300
site in the south placer region.

2859
02:42:04,300 --> 02:42:07,300
additionally, in march of 2020, the state

2860
02:42:07,300 --> 02:42:10,300
launched project roomkey. This is a time

2861
02:42:10,300 --> 02:42:12,300
limited funding for cities and counties to

2862
02:42:12,300 --> 02:42:15,300
operate non-congregate shelter for people

2863
02:42:17,300 --> 02:42:19,300
experiences homelessness infected with

2864
02:42:19,300 --> 02:42:22,300
exposed or high risk of complication from

2865
02:42:22,300 --> 02:42:24,300
covid-19. While expected to be short-term

2866
02:42:24,300 --> 02:42:26,300
funding for project roomkey is anticipated

2867
02:42:26,300 --> 02:42:29,300
to continue and carry on into fiscal year

2868
02:42:29,300 --> 02:42:32,300
2022, 23 budget. Because of its extension

2869
02:42:35,300 --> 02:42:39,300
within that same rfp we sought a

2870
02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:42,300
organization to assume the operation of

2871
02:42:42,300 --> 02:42:45,300
placer project roomkey and the transition

2872
02:42:45,300 --> 02:42:47,300
of the program when funds no longer

2873
02:42:47,300 --> 02:42:51,300
continue. Finally within the same rfp a

2874
02:42:51,300 --> 02:42:53,300
solicitation made for technical assistance

2875
02:42:53,300 --> 02:42:55,300
to support the application of funds and

2876
02:42:55,300 --> 02:42:57,300
for moving forward new opportunities for

2877
02:42:57,300 --> 02:42:59,403
additional affordable and permanent

2878
02:43:03,300 --> 02:43:05,403
supporting housing. Advocates for

2879
02:43:06,300 --> 02:43:08,300
mentally ill housing has served as a

2880
02:43:08,300 --> 02:43:11,300
provider in placer county since august

2881
02:43:11,300 --> 02:43:13,403
2003. Since then [inaudible comments]

2882
02:43:14,300 --> 02:43:15,300
grown to offer an array of housing

2883
02:43:15,300 --> 02:43:18,300
supports. For both placer and nevada

2884
02:43:18,300 --> 02:43:20,300
county. They specialize in supporting the

2885
02:43:20,300 --> 02:43:22,300
housing needs of very low income residents

2886
02:43:22,300 --> 02:43:25,300
with mental health and substance use

2887
02:43:25,300 --> 02:43:28,300
disorders. Amy housing renovated and

2888
02:43:28,300 --> 02:43:30,300
operate placer first homekey project

2889
02:43:30,300 --> 02:43:33,300
located in king's beach and another main

2890
02:43:33,300 --> 02:43:36,300
street plaza apartment in downtown

2891
02:43:37,300 --> 02:43:39,403
roseville. Renovating and [inaudible

2892
02:43:43,300 --> 02:43:44,300
comments] as a result of the track record

2893
02:43:44,300 --> 02:43:46,300
and response to the rfp they were selected

2894
02:43:46,300 --> 02:43:49,300
to contract for all four components within

2895
02:43:49,300 --> 02:43:52,603
the rfp. The acquisition and renovation

2896
02:43:53,300 --> 02:43:55,300
if successful with the homekey operation

2897
02:43:55,300 --> 02:43:58,300
homekey program operation, program roomkey

2898
02:43:59,300 --> 02:44:01,300
program operation and technical

2899
02:44:01,300 --> 02:44:03,300
assistance. The purchase price majority

2900
02:44:03,300 --> 02:44:06,300
of renovations and some operating costs

2901
02:44:06,300 --> 02:44:09,300
would be paid by through the homekey round

2902
02:44:09,300 --> 02:44:12,300
2 funding. And the balance would be paid

2903
02:44:12,300 --> 02:44:14,300
with federal state and local funds. No

2904
02:44:14,300 --> 02:44:17,300
county general fund are required. We will

2905
02:44:17,300 --> 02:44:19,300
come back to update your board to the

2906
02:44:19,300 --> 02:44:22,300
status of this very highly competitive

2907
02:44:22,300 --> 02:44:25,300
application and hopefully with some good

2908
02:44:25,300 --> 02:44:29,300
news. I want to thank your board for

2909
02:44:29,300 --> 02:44:31,300
listening to this and let you know we also

2910
02:44:31,300 --> 02:44:34,300
have jennifer price from amy housing,

2911
02:44:34,300 --> 02:44:36,300
procurement and facility staff needed to

2912
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:38,300
answer questions and rob and myself of

2913
02:44:38,300 --> 02:44:39,300
course.

2914
02:44:39,300 --> 02:44:41,300
>> thank you. Any questions from board

2915
02:44:41,300 --> 02:44:43,300
members? Jim.

2916
02:44:43,300 --> 02:44:46,603
>> thank you amy. I'm right here.

2917
02:44:48,300 --> 02:44:49,300
[laughter]

2918
02:44:49,300 --> 02:44:52,603
no, I really appreciate bringing this

2919
02:44:53,300 --> 02:44:55,300
forward. It is a excellent opportunity to

2920
02:44:55,300 --> 02:44:57,300
move forward to find more housing for

2921
02:44:57,300 --> 02:45:00,300
folks and I toured the amy housing

2922
02:45:00,300 --> 02:45:03,300
programs. They have been very successful.

2923
02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:07,203
not much-not many people critical of the

2924
02:45:09,300 --> 02:45:12,300
program. It works really well so I thank

2925
02:45:12,300 --> 02:45:13,300
jennifer for her work on this over the

2926
02:45:13,300 --> 02:45:16,300
years and then I'm very supportive of

2927
02:45:16,300 --> 02:45:17,300
moving forward with this.

2928
02:45:17,300 --> 02:45:20,300
>> thank you. Cindy then suzanne.

2929
02:45:20,300 --> 02:45:23,300
>> thank you. I too am really supportive

2930
02:45:23,300 --> 02:45:25,300
and pleased with amy housing and the

2931
02:45:25,300 --> 02:45:28,300
programs that we already have gotten going

2932
02:45:28,300 --> 02:45:31,300
in king's beach and where we are headed.

2933
02:45:31,300 --> 02:45:33,300
I had one question today from a

2934
02:45:33,300 --> 02:45:36,603
constituent about the continuation of this

2935
02:45:38,300 --> 02:45:41,300
opportunity with homekey versus maybe

2936
02:45:41,300 --> 02:45:43,300
other efforts with the campus of hope and

2937
02:45:43,300 --> 02:45:46,300
the gathering in. Could you speak to that

2938
02:45:46,300 --> 02:45:48,300
issue because I like to have a good

2939
02:45:48,300 --> 02:45:51,300
response to our constituents on how many

2940
02:45:51,300 --> 02:45:54,300
do we need and how many-

2941
02:45:54,300 --> 02:45:56,300
>> I will let rob--

2942
02:45:56,300 --> 02:45:57,300
>> okay.

2943
02:45:57,300 --> 02:45:59,403
>> thanks supervisor gustafson. That

2944
02:46:03,300 --> 02:46:05,300
relates to the discussion about the larger

2945
02:46:05,300 --> 02:46:08,603
process of this homelessness action plan

2946
02:46:09,300 --> 02:46:12,300
involving our cities and so that work is

2947
02:46:12,300 --> 02:46:14,300
not complete yet. I think we'll be the

2948
02:46:14,300 --> 02:46:17,300
purview of that group when they come

2949
02:46:17,300 --> 02:46:19,300
together with some recommendations and

2950
02:46:19,300 --> 02:46:21,300
actually I think the next phase of that

2951
02:46:21,300 --> 02:46:23,300
process will be getting specific about

2952
02:46:23,300 --> 02:46:26,300
implementation ideas which includes actual

2953
02:46:28,300 --> 02:46:30,300
locations and specifics of projects, I

2954
02:46:30,300 --> 02:46:35,403
think the work right now of the process is

2955
02:46:37,300 --> 02:46:39,300
really working. As I mentioned working

2956
02:46:39,300 --> 02:46:42,300
with the cities and others to understand

2957
02:46:42,300 --> 02:46:45,300
what resources are available right now.

2958
02:46:45,300 --> 02:46:47,300
looking at continuum of care. Getting all

2959
02:46:47,300 --> 02:46:50,300
on the same page and then thinking about

2960
02:46:50,300 --> 02:46:53,300
big picture strategies of what we want to

2961
02:46:53,300 --> 02:46:55,300
together and how to work more effectively

2962
02:46:55,300 --> 02:46:58,300
together and getting to specific project

2963
02:46:58,300 --> 02:47:01,300
ideas. There is nothing in this homekey

2964
02:47:01,300 --> 02:47:04,300
application that would prevent moving

2965
02:47:05,300 --> 02:47:09,300
forward on the campus for hope is a idea I

2966
02:47:09,300 --> 02:47:12,300
know pretty well, but other potential

2967
02:47:12,300 --> 02:47:14,300
projects as well. Amy, anything else you

2968
02:47:14,300 --> 02:47:15,300
like to say about that?

2969
02:47:15,300 --> 02:47:18,300
>> just two. Just to highlight what rob

2970
02:47:18,300 --> 02:47:20,300
is saying. We know from just doing the

2971
02:47:20,300 --> 02:47:23,300
work and how many vouchers and how many

2972
02:47:23,300 --> 02:47:25,300
people we are working with ready for

2973
02:47:25,300 --> 02:47:27,300
housing that if we are successful with

2974
02:47:27,300 --> 02:47:29,300
receiving these funds and able to pull off

2975
02:47:29,300 --> 02:47:33,203
a project roughly the size I mentioned

2976
02:47:34,300 --> 02:47:36,300
there needs to be continued opportunities

2977
02:47:36,300 --> 02:47:38,300
and projects in the future that it won't

2978
02:47:38,300 --> 02:47:41,300
meet all of the needs, so I think this is

2979
02:47:41,300 --> 02:47:45,300
one step that is taking some-it is taking

2980
02:47:45,300 --> 02:47:47,300
opportunity of the timeline of this

2981
02:47:47,300 --> 02:47:50,300
funding that is coming down to help

2982
02:47:50,300 --> 02:47:52,300
communities solves these issues and there

2983
02:47:52,300 --> 02:47:53,300
will be more opportunities.

2984
02:47:53,300 --> 02:47:55,300
>> great. With this money is available

2985
02:47:55,300 --> 02:47:58,300
right now we are ready to go, we have

2986
02:47:58,300 --> 02:48:01,300
potential project and we want to move on

2987
02:48:01,300 --> 02:48:05,300
this, but at last count our census far

2988
02:48:05,300 --> 02:48:08,300
exceeded this. This is only a 10th of the

2989
02:48:08,300 --> 02:48:10,300
folks we need to help so there is plenty

2990
02:48:10,300 --> 02:48:11,300
room for growth.

2991
02:48:11,300 --> 02:48:12,300
>> one more thing just to add is that

2992
02:48:12,300 --> 02:48:15,300
these competitive funds require a very

2993
02:48:15,300 --> 02:48:19,300
fast timeline on completion and being able

2994
02:48:19,300 --> 02:48:23,300
to move folks in. So, we already talked

2995
02:48:23,300 --> 02:48:25,300
about we know more funds will be coming

2996
02:48:25,300 --> 02:48:27,300
and we need to get those plans together

2997
02:48:27,300 --> 02:48:29,300
and get our projects together sooner so we

2998
02:48:29,300 --> 02:48:33,300
are ready to go because by the time they

2999
02:48:33,300 --> 02:48:36,300
come out we have to pretty much they have

3000
02:48:36,300 --> 02:48:37,300
to be ready to roll.

3001
02:48:37,300 --> 02:48:39,300
>> great. Thank you.

3002
02:48:39,300 --> 02:48:40,300
>> suzanne.

3003
02:48:40,300 --> 02:48:43,300
>> hi, amy. Thank you. I have a question

3004
02:48:43,300 --> 02:48:46,300
for my constituents as well on any time

3005
02:48:46,300 --> 02:48:49,300
they see money going to omni housing or

3006
02:48:49,300 --> 02:48:53,300
gathering in they wonder will the funds be

3007
02:48:53,300 --> 02:48:56,300
used for individual permanent supportive

3008
02:48:56,300 --> 02:48:58,300
housing homes?

3009
02:48:58,300 --> 02:49:02,300
>> so, yes. This will, but it is

3010
02:49:02,300 --> 02:49:05,300
different strategy then we used prior. We

3011
02:49:05,300 --> 02:49:08,300
have very limited supply related to this

3012
02:49:08,300 --> 02:49:12,203
type of housing. I mentioned them, the

3013
02:49:13,300 --> 02:49:16,300
king's beach project which is small in the

3014
02:49:16,300 --> 02:49:19,300
tahoe region is one, and then we do have a

3015
02:49:19,300 --> 02:49:23,300
couple of others smaller projects, but it

3016
02:49:23,300 --> 02:49:26,300
is not the same model as some of your

3017
02:49:26,300 --> 02:49:28,300
constituents expressed concerns about

3018
02:49:28,300 --> 02:49:32,300
related to homes or in neighborhoods or

3019
02:49:32,300 --> 02:49:35,300
things like that. This is not new

3020
02:49:35,300 --> 02:49:38,300
approach, but it is different and we have

3021
02:49:38,300 --> 02:49:41,300
taken in a lot of that community feedback

3022
02:49:41,300 --> 02:49:43,300
into our planning and our thoughts related

3023
02:49:43,300 --> 02:49:45,300
to this this potential project.

3024
02:49:45,300 --> 02:49:46,300
>> okay.

3025
02:49:46,300 --> 02:49:49,300
>> and rob sorry, did you want to add to

3026
02:49:49,300 --> 02:49:50,300
that?

3027
02:49:50,300 --> 02:49:54,300
>> just to say I think we've supervisor

3028
02:49:54,300 --> 02:49:55,300
thank you for the question. We talked

3029
02:49:55,300 --> 02:49:57,300
with some of your constituents about these

3030
02:49:57,300 --> 02:49:59,300
concerns and one of the big concerns is

3031
02:49:59,300 --> 02:50:01,300
around communication and around again

3032
02:50:01,300 --> 02:50:03,300
engagement with our cities and other

3033
02:50:03,300 --> 02:50:06,300
partners and so I think that is our

3034
02:50:06,300 --> 02:50:08,300
commitment including on this application

3035
02:50:08,300 --> 02:50:10,300
as I mentioned we have been working very

3036
02:50:10,300 --> 02:50:13,300
closely with the jurisdictions about the

3037
02:50:13,300 --> 02:50:15,300
potential for this project and so I think

3038
02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:19,300
that is maybe what is different or going

3039
02:50:19,300 --> 02:50:22,300
forward what we will commit to on any

3040
02:50:22,300 --> 02:50:25,300
permanent supportive housing before we at

3041
02:50:25,300 --> 02:50:27,300
least from the county perspective we fund.

3042
02:50:27,300 --> 02:50:29,300
there are other potential funders of

3043
02:50:29,300 --> 02:50:31,403
permanent supportive houses. Lesson

3044
02:50:35,300 --> 02:50:39,300
learned we need to do a better job of

3045
02:50:39,300 --> 02:50:40,300
communication and coordination

3046
02:50:40,300 --> 02:50:42,300
specifically on the location is a concern.

3047
02:50:42,300 --> 02:50:46,300
I think in general there is strong support

3048
02:50:46,300 --> 02:50:49,300
for the idea of more housing resources and

3049
02:50:49,300 --> 02:50:52,603
more permanent supportive housing but it

3050
02:50:53,300 --> 02:50:54,300
is about the implementation and where

3051
02:50:54,300 --> 02:50:56,300
those go and how so that is what we are

3052
02:50:56,300 --> 02:50:59,300
working closely with the jurisdictions on

3053
02:50:59,300 --> 02:51:02,300
on this case of getting that right.

3054
02:51:02,300 --> 02:51:05,603
>> okay. And then lastly, my constituent

3055
02:51:06,300 --> 02:51:08,300
would like a better understanding of how

3056
02:51:08,300 --> 02:51:11,603
you select the particular individuals and

3057
02:51:12,300 --> 02:51:16,300
how you decide where they are going to be

3058
02:51:16,300 --> 02:51:18,300
placed.

3059
02:51:18,300 --> 02:51:21,300
>> the actual people who get in?

3060
02:51:21,300 --> 02:51:22,300
>> the criteria.

3061
02:51:22,300 --> 02:51:25,300
>> yeah, some of that is dependent on the

3062
02:51:25,300 --> 02:51:28,603
fund utilized for the project. Homekey

3063
02:51:29,300 --> 02:51:33,300
funds actually you have to kind of-they

3064
02:51:33,300 --> 02:51:36,300
require us to use our coordinated entry

3065
02:51:36,300 --> 02:51:39,300
process, so which is what all our housing

3066
02:51:39,300 --> 02:51:41,300
providers these days are using which is

3067
02:51:41,300 --> 02:51:44,300
nice. Individuals who are on our what we

3068
02:51:44,300 --> 02:51:49,300
call a by name list are screened for their

3069
02:51:49,300 --> 02:51:52,300
vulnerability, their income levels and

3070
02:51:56,300 --> 02:52:00,300
many other factors. In fact we have amy

3071
02:52:00,300 --> 02:52:04,300
housing here if we have specifics to the

3072
02:52:04,300 --> 02:52:06,300
question because the operators make the

3073
02:52:06,300 --> 02:52:08,300
final determination so she is better to

3074
02:52:08,300 --> 02:52:11,300
answer specifically. In general we look

3075
02:52:11,300 --> 02:52:15,203
at the criteria and make the best

3076
02:52:16,300 --> 02:52:19,300
determination like any landlord. There is

3077
02:52:19,300 --> 02:52:23,300
a interview process for these units and

3078
02:52:23,300 --> 02:52:25,300
they are selected after that rigorous

3079
02:52:25,300 --> 02:52:27,300
application process and interview process.

3080
02:52:27,300 --> 02:52:31,300
>> okay. That would be great if she could

3081
02:52:31,300 --> 02:52:33,300
chime in a little bit.

3082
02:52:33,300 --> 02:52:35,300
>> sure.

3083
02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:45,603
>> good morning. Jennifer price ceo for

3084
02:52:47,300 --> 02:52:50,603
amy housing. We will select individuals

3085
02:52:51,300 --> 02:52:54,300
off the coordinated entry list so we will

3086
02:52:54,300 --> 02:52:55,300
look for folks with the highest need in

3087
02:52:55,300 --> 02:52:58,300
our community but then we also have to use

3088
02:52:58,300 --> 02:53:01,300
the state policy of housing first, so we

3089
02:53:01,300 --> 02:53:03,300
can't deny them for any reason that would

3090
02:53:03,300 --> 02:53:06,300
go against housing first. So, what we

3091
02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:09,300
will be doing is looking for folks who we

3092
02:53:09,300 --> 02:53:12,300
think need the housing the most but won't

3093
02:53:12,300 --> 02:53:15,300
take folks who are on megan's law or who

3094
02:53:15,300 --> 02:53:19,300
have a serious violent felonies or issues

3095
02:53:19,300 --> 02:53:22,300
of that nature, so we are trying to house

3096
02:53:22,300 --> 02:53:25,300
the people most in need but who don't

3097
02:53:25,300 --> 02:53:28,300
wouldn't put your-the other tenants in

3098
02:53:28,300 --> 02:53:29,300
danger.

3099
02:53:29,300 --> 02:53:33,203
>> do some of your tenants have mental

3100
02:53:35,300 --> 02:53:37,300
issues they are recovering from?

3101
02:53:37,300 --> 02:53:39,300
>> could be, yes.

3102
02:53:41,300 --> 02:53:43,300
>> okay. That's good enough.

3103
02:53:43,300 --> 02:53:45,300
>> I wanted to speak to that really quick.

3104
02:53:45,300 --> 02:53:48,300
we also depending on who entered we create

3105
02:53:48,300 --> 02:53:50,300
those services and support plans for each

3106
02:53:50,300 --> 02:53:53,300
individual and for the facility as a

3107
02:53:53,300 --> 02:53:55,300
whole, so there would be staffing

3108
02:53:55,300 --> 02:53:58,300
available onsite and then in addition each

3109
02:53:58,300 --> 02:54:00,300
individual with additional needs such as

3110
02:54:00,300 --> 02:54:03,300
that would have case management usually

3111
02:54:03,300 --> 02:54:05,300
often times from my team intensive case

3112
02:54:05,300 --> 02:54:08,300
management helping to have individual

3113
02:54:08,300 --> 02:54:11,603
plans and keeping-some goals maintained at

3114
02:54:12,300 --> 02:54:14,300
to support their housing and some goals to

3115
02:54:14,300 --> 02:54:17,300
continue their progression on the mental

3116
02:54:17,300 --> 02:54:18,300
health or substance use needs.

3117
02:54:18,300 --> 02:54:21,300
>> that leads to another question then.

3118
02:54:21,300 --> 02:54:23,300
it was my understanding the state with the

3119
02:54:23,300 --> 02:54:25,300
permanent supportive housing is that they

3120
02:54:25,300 --> 02:54:28,603
won't allow 24/7 type supervision, so like

3121
02:54:30,300 --> 02:54:32,300
in the permanent supportive housing

3122
02:54:32,300 --> 02:54:35,300
individual homes that there are no

3123
02:54:35,300 --> 02:54:38,603
supervisor type folks on the premises.

3124
02:54:39,300 --> 02:54:41,300
>> living there, right. You are right,

3125
02:54:41,300 --> 02:54:44,300
there are different types of programs,

3126
02:54:44,300 --> 02:54:46,300
different funding, different

3127
02:54:47,300 --> 02:54:48,300
circumstances, but with these homekey

3128
02:54:48,300 --> 02:54:50,300
funds with a larger project such as this

3129
02:54:50,300 --> 02:54:52,300
there would be onsite support.

3130
02:54:52,300 --> 02:54:55,300
>> okay, great. Thanks so much.

3131
02:54:56,300 --> 02:54:58,300
>> jim.

3132
02:54:58,300 --> 02:55:01,603
>> amy, main street plaza and roseville

3133
02:55:05,300 --> 02:55:06,300
they have a manager on site?

3134
02:55:06,300 --> 02:55:07,300
>> yes.

3135
02:55:07,300 --> 02:55:08,300
>> that is 19 units?

3136
02:55:08,300 --> 02:55:11,300
>> I believe that one has day time staff

3137
02:55:11,300 --> 02:55:15,300
not sure if 24/7. I'm getting a nod. But

3138
02:55:15,300 --> 02:55:19,203
this one we are projecting to have 24/7

3139
02:55:20,300 --> 02:55:21,300
support on site.

3140
02:55:21,300 --> 02:55:23,300
>> they have 24 hour on site person who

3141
02:55:23,300 --> 02:55:26,300
lives there as well as day time staff.

3142
02:55:26,300 --> 02:55:28,300
>> good. Thank you.

3143
02:55:32,300 --> 02:55:34,300
>> okay. Is there anyone from the public

3144
02:55:34,300 --> 02:55:38,203
who would like to address this item?

3145
02:55:41,300 --> 02:55:43,300
>> michael go ahead and unmute your mic

3146
02:55:43,300 --> 02:55:45,403
and give your comments.

3147
02:55:46,300 --> 02:55:49,603
>> thank you. So, when someone gets

3148
02:55:50,300 --> 02:55:54,803
access to the housing do they have it

3149
02:55:55,300 --> 02:55:58,300
indefinitely or temporary or is-

3150
02:55:59,300 --> 02:56:03,300
>> this is permanent if they get access to

3151
02:56:03,300 --> 02:56:05,300
the housing, so long as they are paying

3152
02:56:05,300 --> 02:56:09,300
their rent and keeping the rules of their

3153
02:56:09,300 --> 02:56:11,300
lease then this would be their home until

3154
02:56:11,300 --> 02:56:13,403
they chose to leave.

3155
02:56:14,300 --> 02:56:18,803
>> okay. Okay. So, do you work with any

3156
02:56:19,300 --> 02:56:22,603
churches at all with placing and

3157
02:56:24,300 --> 02:56:25,300
counseling stuff like that?

3158
02:56:25,300 --> 02:56:28,300
>> so, yes. We have many partnerships

3159
02:56:28,300 --> 02:56:31,300
with faith based organizations and other

3160
02:56:31,300 --> 02:56:35,203
service providers who all put use 211 to

3161
02:56:37,300 --> 02:56:38,300
put any individual in need on a

3162
02:56:38,300 --> 02:56:41,300
coordinated entry list which then they are

3163
02:56:41,300 --> 02:56:44,300
given a vulnerability scale, so their need

3164
02:56:44,300 --> 02:56:46,300
level and a screening process through a

3165
02:56:46,300 --> 02:56:48,300
application for rental.

3166
02:56:49,300 --> 02:56:51,300
>> okay, thank you.

3167
02:56:52,300 --> 02:56:56,300
>> okay, with that, I'll bring it back to

3168
02:56:56,300 --> 02:57:00,300
the board. We have two items in front of

3169
02:57:00,300 --> 02:57:01,300
us. The resolution regarding the

3170
02:57:01,300 --> 02:57:03,300
implementation of homekey and the

3171
02:57:03,300 --> 02:57:06,300
resolution authorizing the director to

3172
02:57:07,300 --> 02:57:08,300
apply for a new grant.

3173
02:57:08,300 --> 02:57:09,300
>> move approval.

3174
02:57:09,300 --> 02:57:10,300
>> second.

3175
02:57:10,300 --> 02:57:13,300
>> motion holmes, second gore. All in

3176
02:57:13,300 --> 02:57:16,300
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

3177
02:57:16,300 --> 02:57:17,300
thank you.

3178
02:57:17,300 --> 02:57:19,300
>> thank you.

3179
02:57:28,300 --> 02:57:32,300
>> our agenda is really gotten kind of

3180
02:57:32,300 --> 02:57:35,300
tripped up and keeping in mind be have a

3181
02:57:35,300 --> 02:57:38,300
12:30 item come back to that is timed but

3182
02:57:38,300 --> 02:57:40,300
we will be late for that because we are

3183
02:57:40,300 --> 02:57:43,300
late so we are late. Let's accept that.

3184
02:57:43,300 --> 02:57:45,300
we will take item 4a which is

3185
02:57:45,300 --> 02:57:47,300
transportation fee capital improvement

3186
02:57:47,300 --> 02:57:49,300
program update.

3187
02:58:00,300 --> 02:58:03,300
>> good morning chairman weygandt, members

3188
02:58:03,300 --> 02:58:05,300
of the board. Katie jackson and I'm a

3189
02:58:05,300 --> 02:58:07,300
senior engineering with the placer county

3190
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department of public works. I'm here

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today with a overview of proposed update

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to the tahoe transportation fee program

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and joined on the zoom call by our

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consultant team matt [inaudible comments]

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gordon shaw. Today we seeking adoption of

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the update to the tahoe fee district

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program, tahoe capital improvement program

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and nexus study and seeking direction for

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update to the transit project list for

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establishing future zones of benefit in

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02:58:41,300 --> 02:58:44,300
the tahoe fee district. Next slide,

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please. So, today I'll provide a brief

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overview of our existing program. I'll

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talk about the proposed updates to the fee

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02:58:57,300 --> 02:58:59,300
program and discuss associated changes to

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the the zone of benefit project list and

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open up to questions or comments. Next

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slide, please. So, our transportation fee

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program or traffic fee program is a

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funding mechanism applied to new

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development both residential and are non

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02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:17,300
residential and the fees along with other

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02:59:17,300 --> 02:59:20,603
funding sources are used to fund

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improvements to transportation network

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needed as a result of new development.

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the tahoe fee district is one of 11 fee

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districts in our county wide traffic fee

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program started in 1996 and you see the

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geography on the slide. It includes

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unincorporated area. Currently the fee is

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$5440 per dwelling unit equivalent and the

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fee program is governed by placer county

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code as well as state law including the

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mitigation fee act. Next slide, please.

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so, typically our fees are used in cun

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junction with other funding sources to

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build projects. Often our fees are local

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match to leverage grant funding. Placer

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is successful securing grant funding here

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so between 2008 and 2018 there were 10

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projects that were funded by traffic fees

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in the tahoe fee district. Over that 10

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year period fees funded in average of 7

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percent of project costs. The fee

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contribution on any individual project

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ranged from 2 percent to 65 percent of

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project costs with that overall average at

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7 percent. Of course our other funding

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sources include federal and state grant

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programs as well as tot funds and other

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03:00:39,300 --> 03:00:42,000
sources. Next slide, please. Our fee

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programs updated periodically to insure

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they align with the latest agency

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priorities funding levels and development

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projections. The tahoe fee district last

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updated in 2017 with adoption of the tahoe

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basin area plan. Since then sb743 has

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gone into effect. It requires all lead

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agencies under ceqa including the county

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shift from analyzing automobile delay or

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level of service to analyzing vehicle

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miles traveled or vmt in the ceqa

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documents. This change is prompting local

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agencies to evaluate the need capacity

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increasing project and look for additional

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funding for bicycle pedestrian and transit

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projects. Additionally, the resort

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triangle transportation plan adopted by

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your board in 2020 and that plan

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establishes the long range vision for the

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transportation network in the tahoe fee

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district and so looking to incorporate

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many of them projects identified in that

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plan. Next slide, please. So, very

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simply, the amount of the fee is

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established through a series of technical

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calculations in the nexus study. Develop

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a project list and associated cost

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estimate, then estimate the portion of

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cost that are attributable to new

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development, and then allocate those costs

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over the projected development in a

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specific area. Next slide, please. So

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our project list was developed based on

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adopted plans in the area including the

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resort triangle transportation plan, the

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tart system plan, the tahoe basin area

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plan and other approve environmental

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documents. With this update we propose to

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shift the focus of the fee district from

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level of service to reduction of vehicle

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03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:34,100
miles traveled. This slide shows a sample

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of the project list, the projects span

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these 4 major categories including bike

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and pedestrian infrastructure, transit

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03:02:42,100 --> 03:02:45,100
expansion, parking management and fuel

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level of service or safety projects.

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because we shift the focus toward vmt we

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move away from capital intensive projects

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towards a capital component and operating

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03:02:59,100 --> 03:03:01,100
cost like transit expansion. The fee

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03:03:01,100 --> 03:03:04,100
program can only pay for the capital

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03:03:04,100 --> 03:03:06,100
component of the projects and because of

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that we propose a funding strategy that

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includes both the fee program update as

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well as updates to future zones of benefit

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so we have a ongoing local funding source

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that can provide a portion of our

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operating costs as well. Next slide,

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please. So, as part of the update we

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estimated the vmt reduction for projects

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on the cip list as well as other vmt

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reducing programs. In total vmt can be

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reduced by about $4.7 million annually.

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the majority of the reduction as you see

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on the slide comes from transit expansion

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projects. All most 20 percent come from

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parking management and travel demand with

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remaining 7 percent coming from bicycle

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and pedestrian infrastructure. Next

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slide, please. So, with this proposed

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update the fee amount would be reduced.

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the current fee is $5440 per dwelling unit

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equivalent and with this update the fee

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would be $3528 per dwelling unit

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equivalent. While the project list is

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expanding the cost of attributing to new

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development is decreasing and that is due

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in part to the shift in methodology to

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vmt. New development is not fully

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03:04:22,100 --> 03:04:24,100
responsible for reducing our vmt and

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03:04:24,100 --> 03:04:28,100
therefore only a portion of the costs are

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attributable to the new development

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through the fee program. Other components

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of this update include refinement to the

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dwelling unit equivalent factors with the

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proposed update the amount of the fee

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would vary by land use type. We are also

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proposing a fee for deed restricted

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affordable housing in half. Proposing to

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rename the fee district from the tahoe

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traffic fee to the tahoe transportation

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fee to better reflect the variety of

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projects on the list. And as I mentioned

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earlier the project list has a both

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capital cost which can be partially funded

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through the fee program and those ongoing

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operational expenses which we propose-why

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03:05:08,100 --> 03:05:12,100
we are proposing of the joan zone of

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benefit project list which I'll go over in

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03:05:14,100 --> 03:05:18,100
a second. Next slide, please. So, this

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03:05:18,100 --> 03:05:21,100
slide illustrates the fee amount for

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common land use types. As mentioned

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earlier the updates to the dwelling unit

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03:05:25,100 --> 03:05:27,100
equivalent factor result in varying

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03:05:27,100 --> 03:05:29,100
changes in the fee by land use type which

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03:05:29,100 --> 03:05:33,100
is illustrated on this slide. We looked

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at about 38 different land use types and

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there is one land use that would see a

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03:05:38,100 --> 03:05:40,100
slight increase in the fee with this

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03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:43,100
proposal and that is the gas station with

3352
03:05:43,100 --> 03:05:45,100
convenience market. That land use would

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03:05:45,100 --> 03:05:48,601
see increase by about $235 per fueling

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position under this update. Next slide,

3355
03:05:52,100 --> 03:05:56,801
please. So, of zone of benefit is another

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03:05:57,100 --> 03:06:00,100
common funding mechanism and this could be

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used to fund ongoing expenses associated

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03:06:04,100 --> 03:06:07,100
with a development. We are talking

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transit service expansion. With the zone

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of benefit we can establish assessment the

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property owner would pay annually with

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their taxes. With their property taxes.

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we do have a handful of existing zones of

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benefit in this area, those would not be

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subject to the update. We are talking

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proposing this for new growth only. The

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transit zones of benefit that have been

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established have a fee that range from $50

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to $70 per developing unit per year but

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the proposed update we look at expansion

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of the project list and future growth

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would have assessment between $150-250 per

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year. Those are preliminary estimates and

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the amount depends how much other funding

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is dedicated to transit. The funds would

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be used for transit expansion meaning

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03:06:57,100 --> 03:06:59,100
increasing the frequency of the transit

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service, expanding the hours or days of

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operation and implementing new transit

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03:07:04,100 --> 03:07:06,100
lines. We can also provide a permanent

3381
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funding source for current pilot programs

3382
03:07:08,100 --> 03:07:12,801
like our fare free tart service and tart

3383
03:07:13,100 --> 03:07:15,100
connect micro transit service. With

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03:07:15,100 --> 03:07:17,100
adoption of the fee program today we are

3385
03:07:17,100 --> 03:07:20,100
also seeking direction to expand the

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03:07:20,100 --> 03:07:23,100
project list for future development to

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fund these ongoing operational components.

3388
03:07:26,100 --> 03:07:30,201
next slide, please. So we started this

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03:07:31,100 --> 03:07:34,100
program update about a year ago and over

3390
03:07:34,100 --> 03:07:36,100
the last month we have been working on

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03:07:36,100 --> 03:07:38,100
outreach with our stakeholder group as

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03:07:38,100 --> 03:07:41,100
well as the public and as well as

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03:07:41,100 --> 03:07:44,601
finalizing our nexus study. If the

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program is adopted today it will go into

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03:07:48,100 --> 03:07:51,100
effect 60 days from now feb 14 and as

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03:07:51,100 --> 03:07:54,100
supervisor gustafson mentioned we are

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working closely with the t r pa to the

3398
03:07:58,100 --> 03:08:00,100
mobility mitigation program. Next slide,

3399
03:08:00,100 --> 03:08:03,100
please. So, this is the action requested

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today. I can read it if you like but in

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03:08:06,100 --> 03:08:09,100
essence we are proposing an adoption of

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03:08:09,100 --> 03:08:12,100
the capital improvement program the tahoe

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03:08:12,100 --> 03:08:14,100
transportation fee district, the nexus

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03:08:14,100 --> 03:08:17,100
study and as well as direction to staff

3405
03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:20,100
for expanding our zone of benefit project

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03:08:20,100 --> 03:08:22,401
list for future growth.

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03:08:25,100 --> 03:08:28,601
>> thank you. Any questions from board

3408
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members at the time? Cindy.

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03:08:31,100 --> 03:08:34,100
>> first off thanks to staff. Richard,

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03:08:34,100 --> 03:08:35,100
kim, katie, especially for all your hard

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03:08:35,100 --> 03:08:37,100
work on this and I just wanted to the rest

3412
03:08:37,100 --> 03:08:39,100
of the board to hear the numbers we are

3413
03:08:39,100 --> 03:08:41,100
talking about within the basin in

3414
03:08:41,100 --> 03:08:43,401
comparison because again, the

3415
03:08:45,100 --> 03:08:48,100
disproportionate hit in the basin for new

3416
03:08:48,100 --> 03:08:51,100
development through t r pa mobility fee is

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03:08:51,100 --> 03:08:53,100
much greater then what we will be

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03:08:53,100 --> 03:08:54,100
proposing in the areas outside of the

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03:08:54,100 --> 03:08:58,801
tahoe basin lines. For a home a single

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03:09:00,100 --> 03:09:04,100
family home our new fee in placer county,

3421
03:09:04,100 --> 03:09:07,601
$3528 within the basin it could range

3422
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anywhere from $3700 up to $13 thousand.

3423
03:09:15,100 --> 03:09:17,100
potentially based on where it is located

3424
03:09:17,100 --> 03:09:20,100
whether in a what they call a low vmt area

3425
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:22,100
close to is a town center where they can

3426
03:09:22,100 --> 03:09:26,100
bike and walk versus a high vmt area, so

3427
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very very significant cost differential.

3428
03:09:30,100 --> 03:09:31,100
on a-

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>> I know, I will get to you.

3430
03:09:32,100 --> 03:09:36,201
>> I want to understand that. Can you

3431
03:09:37,100 --> 03:09:39,100
reexplain that? I'm trying to get-

3432
03:09:39,100 --> 03:09:41,100
>> katie is probably better explaining it

3433
03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:45,100
but the fees within a tahoe basin for

3434
03:09:45,100 --> 03:09:47,100
mobility and vmt reduction within the

3435
03:09:47,100 --> 03:09:51,100
basin under t r pa are higher then what

3436
03:09:51,100 --> 03:09:55,100
placer county is looking at outside of the

3437
03:09:55,100 --> 03:09:58,100
basin that would have been proposed had

3438
03:09:58,100 --> 03:10:01,100
there not been a bistate agency overseeing

3439
03:10:01,100 --> 03:10:02,100
the basin.

3440
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>> got it.

3441
03:10:04,100 --> 03:10:08,201
>> so what I been arguing throughout and

3442
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why I seem crazy because I go to way too

3443
03:10:12,100 --> 03:10:15,100
many meetings on transportation, I want to

3444
03:10:15,100 --> 03:10:18,100
get credit as placer county from our

3445
03:10:18,100 --> 03:10:21,100
businesses generating money and reinvest

3446
03:10:21,100 --> 03:10:23,100
ing in micro mass transit, transportation

3447
03:10:23,100 --> 03:10:27,100
solutions with tot and t bid money I want

3448
03:10:27,100 --> 03:10:30,100
to make sure our businesses or new growth

3449
03:10:30,100 --> 03:10:35,100
we can offset some of the higher fees they

3450
03:10:35,100 --> 03:10:37,100
want to charge because we will go back not

3451
03:10:37,100 --> 03:10:40,100
seeing new development redevelopment. The

3452
03:10:41,100 --> 03:10:43,100
single family homes are probably less a

3453
03:10:43,100 --> 03:10:45,401
concern because anybody building

3454
03:10:46,100 --> 03:10:49,100
affordable housing gets a waver, reduced

3455
03:10:49,100 --> 03:10:52,100
fee, but for the mega mansions, they will

3456
03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:55,100
pay a pretty significant fee for those.

3457
03:10:55,100 --> 03:10:59,100
so, this is-staff brought it to me

3458
03:10:59,100 --> 03:11:01,100
attention. We have been trying to work

3459
03:11:01,100 --> 03:11:03,100
through it. We are continuing our efforts

3460
03:11:03,100 --> 03:11:06,100
with t r pa to credit placer county

3461
03:11:06,100 --> 03:11:08,100
because we are the only jurisdiction in

3462
03:11:08,100 --> 03:11:10,401
the basin supplementing transportation

3463
03:11:11,100 --> 03:11:14,100
services at this level, and because of

3464
03:11:14,100 --> 03:11:18,100
that our businesses in our town centers

3465
03:11:18,100 --> 03:11:20,100
need to get credit for that.

3466
03:11:20,100 --> 03:11:24,801
>> can I clarify. In addition to the fee

3467
03:11:25,100 --> 03:11:27,100
charged we are reducing, there is also

3468
03:11:27,100 --> 03:11:31,100
going to be a t r pa fee which is even

3469
03:11:31,100 --> 03:11:35,100
higher so this is helpful to a certain

3470
03:11:35,100 --> 03:11:37,100
extent because it reduces the fee on our

3471
03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:40,100
end, and are then we are the only

3472
03:11:40,100 --> 03:11:42,100
jurisdiction that has a fee like this.

3473
03:11:42,100 --> 03:11:45,100
>> that is higher actually--yes. Not

3474
03:11:48,100 --> 03:11:50,100
only-his is for new development but we are

3475
03:11:50,100 --> 03:11:52,100
already supplementing transportation out

3476
03:11:52,100 --> 03:11:56,100
of our general fund to the tune of several

3477
03:11:56,100 --> 03:11:59,601
millions a year in transit operations

3478
03:12:02,100 --> 03:12:03,100
including what we supported with micro

3479
03:12:03,100 --> 03:12:06,100
mass transit so we have a complicated

3480
03:12:06,100 --> 03:12:09,100
agreement to work out with trpa and I

3481
03:12:09,100 --> 03:12:11,100
appreciate your support working with them.

3482
03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:13,100
they assured me there are ways to credit

3483
03:12:13,100 --> 03:12:16,100
our business community with the tbid and I

3484
03:12:16,100 --> 03:12:18,100
was going to also ask our staff a question

3485
03:12:18,100 --> 03:12:22,100
that on the zones of benefit and in our

3486
03:12:22,100 --> 03:12:25,100
discussions there can we hold until we see

3487
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:28,100
what is going to happen in agreement with

3488
03:12:28,100 --> 03:12:31,100
the t r pa because the tbid to me is what

3489
03:12:31,100 --> 03:12:34,100
we campaigned for and supported in order

3490
03:12:34,100 --> 03:12:36,100
to supplement our transportation funding

3491
03:12:36,100 --> 03:12:40,100
to turn around ask those people to pay a

3492
03:12:40,100 --> 03:12:43,100
zone of benefit charge, I would hope the

3493
03:12:43,100 --> 03:12:46,100
county we can see the wisdom of the

3494
03:12:46,100 --> 03:12:49,601
collective good on a tbid versus

3495
03:12:50,100 --> 03:12:53,601
individual zones of benefit for small

3496
03:12:55,100 --> 03:12:56,100
redevelopment project. There is a

3497
03:12:56,100 --> 03:13:00,100
question among my education be it very

3498
03:13:00,100 --> 03:13:03,100
weak how to explain the t r pa element of

3499
03:13:03,100 --> 03:13:04,100
this.

3500
03:13:04,100 --> 03:13:07,100
>> so, I think the first-there was several

3501
03:13:07,100 --> 03:13:09,100
questions. I think the first question is

3502
03:13:09,100 --> 03:13:13,201
can we-your board has great flexibility on

3503
03:13:14,100 --> 03:13:17,100
how we do our program both the zone of

3504
03:13:17,100 --> 03:13:19,100
benefit as well as the fee program. It

3505
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:22,100
can be changed at any time. We are

3506
03:13:22,100 --> 03:13:25,100
convinced and I think absolutely necessary

3507
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:28,100
that as we understand trpa program no one

3508
03:13:28,100 --> 03:13:31,100
can be first off double charged. We have

3509
03:13:31,100 --> 03:13:34,601
ultimate flexibility but it cannot double

3510
03:13:35,100 --> 03:13:37,100
charge anybody for any sort of fee. So,

3511
03:13:37,100 --> 03:13:40,100
as we understand t r pa program we'll make

3512
03:13:40,100 --> 03:13:42,100
adjustments there. We will have to come

3513
03:13:42,100 --> 03:13:44,100
back to the board. As far as the zone of

3514
03:13:44,100 --> 03:13:48,100
benefit goes, the action today really sets

3515
03:13:48,100 --> 03:13:51,100
up a policy framework saying as people or

3516
03:13:51,100 --> 03:13:53,100
new development comes onboard they also

3517
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:56,601
participate in the ongoing operation and

3518
03:13:57,100 --> 03:14:00,601
increment of it. Every project is

3519
03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:05,100
evaluated on its merits so there may be

3520
03:14:05,100 --> 03:14:08,100
reasons not charging individual projects

3521
03:14:08,100 --> 03:14:12,100
and may take out a whole class of your

3522
03:14:12,100 --> 03:14:14,100
project. That is up to your board and at

3523
03:14:14,100 --> 03:14:15,100
the appropriate time can have the

3524
03:14:15,100 --> 03:14:16,100
discussion.

3525
03:14:16,100 --> 03:14:18,100
>> on a statewide basis what we have done

3526
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:22,100
in north lake tahoe and similar to mammoth

3527
03:14:22,100 --> 03:14:24,100
with a tbid that effects so many types of

3528
03:14:24,100 --> 03:14:27,100
businesses and supplements what we would

3529
03:14:27,100 --> 03:14:30,100
see in a sales tax initiative or just a

3530
03:14:30,100 --> 03:14:34,100
tot, is incredible resource and we need to

3531
03:14:34,100 --> 03:14:38,801
be thoughtful in seeing a success for the

3532
03:14:39,100 --> 03:14:41,100
businesses to keep that assessment going,

3533
03:14:41,100 --> 03:14:45,100
because that as long as we are working on

3534
03:14:45,100 --> 03:14:47,100
transportation solutions I think we want

3535
03:14:47,100 --> 03:14:50,100
to encourage that because it goes much

3536
03:14:50,100 --> 03:14:52,100
further then we can go as a county on the

3537
03:14:52,100 --> 03:14:54,100
revenues. We need the businesses to

3538
03:14:54,100 --> 03:14:55,100
support.

3539
03:14:55,100 --> 03:14:57,100
>> I think we will also be able to show or

3540
03:14:57,100 --> 03:15:00,601
at least various instances that different

3541
03:15:04,100 --> 03:15:06,100
types of particularly non residential

3542
03:15:06,100 --> 03:15:08,100
development will have different impacts on

3543
03:15:08,100 --> 03:15:11,100
potential different impacts on vmt. Some

3544
03:15:11,100 --> 03:15:13,100
are actually very good. The more locally

3545
03:15:13,100 --> 03:15:16,100
serving businesses we have that isn't

3546
03:15:16,100 --> 03:15:18,100
sending people down to reno or sending

3547
03:15:18,100 --> 03:15:20,100
people to truckee to provide the services

3548
03:15:20,100 --> 03:15:22,100
we hope to provide within the community.

3549
03:15:22,100 --> 03:15:24,100
that's a positive. That's not a impact,

3550
03:15:24,100 --> 03:15:25,100
that is a benefit.

3551
03:15:25,100 --> 03:15:26,100
>> right.

3552
03:15:26,100 --> 03:15:29,100
>> we definitely need to be able to

3553
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:31,100
recognize that. It is very complicated

3554
03:15:31,100 --> 03:15:33,100
and we are learning as we go along. I

3555
03:15:33,100 --> 03:15:35,100
think the whole state will learn as we go

3556
03:15:35,100 --> 03:15:39,201
along. Making sure each and every project

3557
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:46,201
gets evaluated on its own merits. The

3558
03:15:47,100 --> 03:15:49,100
board provided resources outside normal

3559
03:15:49,100 --> 03:15:51,100
local government provided for transit

3560
03:15:51,100 --> 03:15:53,100
operations we do a lot more then that.

3561
03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:54,100
>> absolutely.

3562
03:15:54,100 --> 03:15:57,100
>> we do need to be recognized for that.

3563
03:15:57,100 --> 03:15:59,100
the businesses and your board investment

3564
03:15:59,100 --> 03:16:01,100
there should be able to be recognized by

3565
03:16:01,100 --> 03:16:03,100
someone and some of those that will be up

3566
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:05,100
to the board who gets recognized for that

3567
03:16:05,100 --> 03:16:06,100
or not.

3568
03:16:06,100 --> 03:16:07,100
>> right. Thank you. I appreciate that

3569
03:16:07,100 --> 03:16:10,100
flexibility and as projects come forward

3570
03:16:10,100 --> 03:16:13,100
I'm sure that you'll be thinking about how

3571
03:16:13,100 --> 03:16:16,100
this can all meld together and pay one fee

3572
03:16:16,100 --> 03:16:20,100
and get as much credit for these and

3573
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:24,201
support for continuation of the tbid and

3574
03:16:25,100 --> 03:16:27,401
enhance transportation solutions. Thank

3575
03:16:28,100 --> 03:16:29,100
you.

3576
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:33,100
>> so, this is a public hearing, so I'll

3577
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:37,100
open up the hearing to the public. There

3578
03:16:37,100 --> 03:16:39,100
is no one from the public so close the

3579
03:16:39,100 --> 03:16:42,100
public hearing and bring it back to the

3580
03:16:42,100 --> 03:16:43,100
board for consideration.

3581
03:16:43,100 --> 03:16:45,100
>> I will move approval.

3582
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:46,100
>> I'll second.

3583
03:16:46,100 --> 03:16:48,100
>> motion gustafson, second gore. All in

3584
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:51,601
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

3585
03:16:52,100 --> 03:16:53,100
thank you very much.

3586
03:16:53,100 --> 03:16:54,100
>> thank you.

3587
03:16:54,100 --> 03:16:58,100
>> and so for all of us and the public in

3588
03:16:58,100 --> 03:17:01,100
my last meeting as chair it has been such

3589
03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:04,601
a management disaster. I'm going to

3590
03:17:06,100 --> 03:17:08,100
announce we are going to break for lunch

3591
03:17:08,100 --> 03:17:12,100
now and then we are going to come up and

3592
03:17:12,100 --> 03:17:16,100
take up our 915 a.m. Timed item fallowed

3593
03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:19,100
by our 1020 timed item then department

3594
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:22,100
items and then we will start the hearing

3595
03:17:22,100 --> 03:17:26,801
on str which was schedule to be 12:30 and

3596
03:17:27,100 --> 03:17:31,100
during lunch we'll take up closed session.

3597
03:17:31,100 --> 03:17:33,100
>> the board will be adjourning to closed

3598
03:17:33,100 --> 03:17:36,100
session considering the following items of

3599
03:17:36,100 --> 03:17:39,100
existing litigation. County placer versus

3600
03:17:39,100 --> 03:17:42,100
matthew [inaudible comments] the third

3601
03:17:48,100 --> 03:17:52,201
item is being dropped from the agenda.

3602
03:17:53,100 --> 03:17:55,100
[closed session]

3603
03:19:24,000 --> 03:19:27,100
>> the board returned to closed session.

3604
03:19:27,100 --> 03:19:29,100
>> the board met in closed session to

3605
03:19:29,100 --> 03:19:32,100
consider the following: county of placer

3606
03:19:32,100 --> 03:19:33,100
versus matthew[inaudible comments] the

3607
03:19:33,100 --> 03:19:35,100
board heard a report and provided

3608
03:19:35,100 --> 03:19:38,100
direction. [inaudible comments] the board

3609
03:19:40,100 --> 03:19:43,100
heard oo report and authorized settlement.

3610
03:19:43,100 --> 03:19:45,401
that concludes the report.

3611
03:19:46,100 --> 03:19:49,100
>> the board will take up the 1020 timed

3612
03:19:49,100 --> 03:19:52,601
item which is library service update.

3613
03:19:57,100 --> 03:19:59,100
>> [inaudible comments]

3614
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:09,100
>> good morning everyone or good afternoon

3615
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:13,201
now right? Thank you very much chair

3616
03:20:14,100 --> 03:20:16,100
weygandt for inviting to come to your

3617
03:20:16,100 --> 03:20:19,100
board to give a little service update on

3618
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:23,100
library service. Thank you for all you do

3619
03:20:23,100 --> 03:20:25,100
for library service as you now come into

3620
03:20:25,100 --> 03:20:29,201
your last board meeting as the chair.

3621
03:20:30,100 --> 03:20:33,100
anyway, we are going to give a brief

3622
03:20:33,100 --> 03:20:36,100
overview of library mobile service. We

3623
03:20:36,100 --> 03:20:39,100
will talk a little about virtual

3624
03:20:39,100 --> 03:20:41,100
programming. We are going to talk about

3625
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:44,601
the resumption of service coming in

3626
03:20:45,100 --> 03:20:48,601
january. Give update on the strategic

3627
03:20:49,100 --> 03:20:51,100
planning initiative and library service

3628
03:20:51,100 --> 03:20:55,801
study at the end. I'm mary george direct

3629
03:20:56,100 --> 03:20:59,100
of library subs and next to me is

3630
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:02,100
assistant director sophie bruno and the

3631
03:21:02,100 --> 03:21:04,100
two of us will be presenting. I have the

3632
03:21:04,100 --> 03:21:07,100
first piece which is about our mobile

3633
03:21:07,100 --> 03:21:10,100
service. Library mobility service book

3634
03:21:12,100 --> 03:21:15,100
mobile service reimagined in a much

3635
03:21:15,100 --> 03:21:18,601
smaller van for efficient and stable

3636
03:21:19,100 --> 03:21:21,100
sustainable outreach opportunity to some

3637
03:21:21,100 --> 03:21:24,100
of most rural communities. Library mobile

3638
03:21:24,100 --> 03:21:26,100
service positions the library in the

3639
03:21:26,100 --> 03:21:28,100
communities where people naturally gather

3640
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:32,100
to offer core library services that are

3641
03:21:32,100 --> 03:21:34,100
professional and convenient. Current

3642
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:36,100
stops include the popular coffee spot the

3643
03:21:36,100 --> 03:21:40,100
perky peacock in sheridan. The iowa hill

3644
03:21:40,100 --> 03:21:44,100
and alta stores, and the dutch flat

3645
03:21:44,100 --> 03:21:46,100
community centers. Visitors have access

3646
03:21:46,100 --> 03:21:49,601
to a small curated browsing collection.

3647
03:21:50,100 --> 03:21:53,100
can get a library card place items on

3648
03:21:53,100 --> 03:21:56,100
hold, pick up the holds and also have the

3649
03:21:56,100 --> 03:21:59,100
benefit of knowledgeable staff to meet

3650
03:21:59,100 --> 03:22:01,100
their information needs. Mobile staff

3651
03:22:01,100 --> 03:22:04,100
promote also in-person programming at the

3652
03:22:04,100 --> 03:22:07,100
brick and mortar locations closest to the

3653
03:22:07,100 --> 03:22:09,100
stops including the lincoln library and

3654
03:22:09,100 --> 03:22:12,100
roseville library. So that helps in our

3655
03:22:12,100 --> 03:22:14,401
partnership throughout library service.

3656
03:22:15,100 --> 03:22:18,100
and since the van rolled out september 16

3657
03:22:18,100 --> 03:22:21,100
we had 89 new library card users and we

3658
03:22:21,100 --> 03:22:25,201
checked out 295 items. What is ahead for

3659
03:22:28,100 --> 03:22:31,100
mobile library service is adding stops and

3660
03:22:31,100 --> 03:22:34,100
extending time as staffing allows. For

3661
03:22:34,100 --> 03:22:38,100
example, we currently park in the meadow

3662
03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:40,100
vista community center parking lot, and we

3663
03:22:40,100 --> 03:22:42,100
welcome a steady stream of folks walking

3664
03:22:42,100 --> 03:22:45,100
around the park walking their dogs and

3665
03:22:45,100 --> 03:22:47,100
what happened is the staff noticed that

3666
03:22:47,100 --> 03:22:50,100
the afternoons are quite busy because

3667
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:54,100
folks are picking up from the elementary

3668
03:22:54,100 --> 03:22:55,100
school adjacent to the park so may have a

3669
03:22:55,100 --> 03:22:58,100
morning stop there and come in the

3670
03:22:58,100 --> 03:23:01,100
afternoon where we hit people are where

3671
03:23:01,100 --> 03:23:03,100
their destinations are and we'll continue

3672
03:23:03,100 --> 03:23:06,601
to evaluate where people are naturally

3673
03:23:07,100 --> 03:23:10,601
gathering. Evaluate how people use the

3674
03:23:12,100 --> 03:23:14,100
stops and scout new locations. For

3675
03:23:14,100 --> 03:23:16,100
instance, in january we are going change

3676
03:23:16,100 --> 03:23:19,100
our stop at the alta store to coincide

3677
03:23:19,100 --> 03:23:23,100
with a non-profit thrift store that opens

3678
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:27,801
in the afternoon called the attic so there

3679
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:32,100
is a colocation between the thrift store

3680
03:23:32,100 --> 03:23:34,100
and grocery store. We like to participate

3681
03:23:34,100 --> 03:23:37,100
at more community event. We had a

3682
03:23:37,100 --> 03:23:40,100
successful event at colfax railroad days

3683
03:23:40,100 --> 03:23:42,100
so will look for opportunities to add book

3684
03:23:42,100 --> 03:23:44,100
clubs or storey times at the stops and

3685
03:23:44,100 --> 03:23:47,601
also to participate at fair farmers

3686
03:23:48,100 --> 03:23:50,100
markets and other community events

3687
03:23:50,100 --> 03:23:53,100
including events in tahoe. And then we

3688
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:55,100
like to assist those unable to travel to

3689
03:23:55,100 --> 03:23:58,100
the library as soon as safe to do so by

3690
03:23:58,100 --> 03:24:01,100
entering senior facilities care facilities

3691
03:24:01,100 --> 03:24:05,801
and schools so we can provide book talks,

3692
03:24:07,100 --> 03:24:11,100
kids can check out items, we can do book

3693
03:24:11,100 --> 03:24:15,201
clubs and senior centers and promote the

3694
03:24:16,100 --> 03:24:18,100
level of reading to folks who can't reach

3695
03:24:18,100 --> 03:24:21,601
us. Finally, the near future including

3696
03:24:22,100 --> 03:24:25,100
now we started working with fleet to put

3697
03:24:25,100 --> 03:24:27,100
together a permanent vehicle. Now we are

3698
03:24:27,100 --> 03:24:28,100
using a temporary vehicle but we are

3699
03:24:28,100 --> 03:24:31,100
watching it carefully to insure we know

3700
03:24:31,100 --> 03:24:35,201
which modifications to the vehicle so it

3701
03:24:36,100 --> 03:24:39,100
is easy for the staff to move and be

3702
03:24:39,100 --> 03:24:43,100
nimble and get the items in and out. Now

3703
03:24:43,100 --> 03:24:46,100
I like to turn it over to sophie.

3704
03:24:46,100 --> 03:24:49,100
>> good afternoon chair. Sophie bruno

3705
03:24:51,100 --> 03:24:53,100
assistant director of library service and

3706
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:56,100
I'm honored to share today some of the

3707
03:24:56,100 --> 03:24:58,100
talented work our library specialists have

3708
03:24:58,100 --> 03:25:01,100
been able to do over the last 6 months or

3709
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:05,100
so. I never had have a problem bragging

3710
03:25:05,100 --> 03:25:07,100
about staff skill sets and dedication to

3711
03:25:07,100 --> 03:25:10,100
our communities and certainly it isn't

3712
03:25:10,100 --> 03:25:13,100
more true then during the pandemic and all

3713
03:25:13,100 --> 03:25:15,100
we asked staff to do and how we asked them

3714
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:19,100
to pivot and how they go from in-person

3715
03:25:19,100 --> 03:25:21,100
library service to something other and

3716
03:25:21,100 --> 03:25:23,100
particularly wanted to highlight today the

3717
03:25:23,100 --> 03:25:27,100
ways they have-I want to highlight their

3718
03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:29,401
work doing in-person-sorry, virtual

3719
03:25:31,100 --> 03:25:33,100
programming offerings for the families

3720
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:37,100
that we sever. Essentially the charge we

3721
03:25:37,100 --> 03:25:39,100
gave our team was to design a virtual

3722
03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:41,100
program that families could easily access

3723
03:25:41,100 --> 03:25:45,100
and want to participate in and that would

3724
03:25:45,100 --> 03:25:47,100
call upon all the elements that library

3725
03:25:47,100 --> 03:25:49,100
staff use to great effect for our

3726
03:25:49,100 --> 03:25:51,100
in-person programs. So, what elements

3727
03:25:51,100 --> 03:25:55,100
could we pull through and condense into 5

3728
03:25:55,100 --> 03:25:59,100
minutes or less online to connect with

3729
03:25:59,100 --> 03:26:02,100
those families. Essentially what looked

3730
03:26:02,100 --> 03:26:05,100
like is one of our team shared a digital

3731
03:26:05,100 --> 03:26:08,100
recording on library social media sharing

3732
03:26:08,100 --> 03:26:12,100
a book or story and families come to the

3733
03:26:12,100 --> 03:26:14,100
library each week and pick up a bag that

3734
03:26:14,100 --> 03:26:19,100
had all the materials to create a craft or

3735
03:26:19,100 --> 03:26:21,100
activity that correspond to that week book

3736
03:26:21,100 --> 03:26:25,100
or story. Here is a thing about library

3737
03:26:25,100 --> 03:26:28,100
staff is they make it look easy and they

3738
03:26:28,100 --> 03:26:32,201
make it look amazing. It is amazing

3739
03:26:33,100 --> 03:26:37,100
because 5 minute or less sharing a story

3740
03:26:37,100 --> 03:26:42,100
or using a flannel to share a folk tale

3741
03:26:42,100 --> 03:26:45,100
from a country half way across the world

3742
03:26:45,100 --> 03:26:48,100
and combine with [inaudible comments] on

3743
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:52,801
the surface it looks easy. Reading a book

3744
03:26:56,100 --> 03:26:59,100
and making paper dolls. I want to

3745
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:01,100
highlight what is below the surface and

3746
03:27:01,100 --> 03:27:04,100
that benefit to the community because we

3747
03:27:04,100 --> 03:27:07,100
really take our charge as librarians

3748
03:27:07,100 --> 03:27:11,201
seriously and we when we talk early

3749
03:27:13,100 --> 03:27:15,100
literacy we recognize we are entrusted

3750
03:27:15,100 --> 03:27:18,100
with the care of youngest and most

3751
03:27:18,100 --> 03:27:21,100
impressionable in our communities and so

3752
03:27:21,100 --> 03:27:25,100
what we do each week how we connect young

3753
03:27:25,100 --> 03:27:28,100
minds, how we build their skills study

3754
03:27:28,100 --> 03:27:31,100
after study shows us that all those skill

3755
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:34,100
sets we are developing are directly tied

3756
03:27:34,100 --> 03:27:36,100
to school readiness with children ability

3757
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:38,100
to succeed in school to know how to read

3758
03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:42,801
to take joy and delight in literacy and

3759
03:27:44,100 --> 03:27:45,100
reading and their own success in doing so

3760
03:27:45,100 --> 03:27:49,201
which are really critical markers to their

3761
03:27:50,100 --> 03:27:53,601
journey to adult hood. Intentionality is

3762
03:27:54,100 --> 03:27:55,100
woven into all these steps from the

3763
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:58,100
selection of the story, age appropriate is

3764
03:27:58,100 --> 03:28:02,201
it relevant? We use a metaphors for

3765
03:28:05,100 --> 03:28:09,100
mirrors or windows so it is a mirror they

3766
03:28:09,100 --> 03:28:11,100
can see reflected back or a window they

3767
03:28:11,100 --> 03:28:14,100
can peak into another world and compare to

3768
03:28:14,100 --> 03:28:16,100
their own. Specific to sharing a stor y

3769
03:28:16,100 --> 03:28:18,100
virtually staff had to be following pretty

3770
03:28:18,100 --> 03:28:22,100
specific copy right rules to do so so that

3771
03:28:22,100 --> 03:28:24,100
was a new challenge for them. And then

3772
03:28:24,100 --> 03:28:27,100
the take home activity itself, created

3773
03:28:27,100 --> 03:28:29,100
kind of a virtual or habit to bring

3774
03:28:29,100 --> 03:28:32,100
families back into the libraries after so

3775
03:28:32,100 --> 03:28:35,100
long. Had to am up and to the service

3776
03:28:35,100 --> 03:28:38,100
desk themselves, speak to a grown up, use

3777
03:28:38,100 --> 03:28:41,601
their manners. The child is developing

3778
03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:49,100
sequencing skills as they follow each

3779
03:28:49,100 --> 03:28:52,100
directional step. Scissor skills even.

3780
03:28:52,100 --> 03:28:55,100
kindergarten teachers told us so often it

3781
03:28:55,100 --> 03:28:59,801
is a advantage when kids learned to use

3782
03:29:01,100 --> 03:29:04,100
fine motor skills and you get the play

3783
03:29:04,100 --> 03:29:07,100
with this thing you created so you are

3784
03:29:07,100 --> 03:29:10,100
building your narrative as you talk about

3785
03:29:10,100 --> 03:29:12,100
it and telling mom and dad about it so it

3786
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:15,100
could be a spider web or finger puppet or

3787
03:29:15,100 --> 03:29:20,100
a lady bug crown like my little one is

3788
03:29:20,100 --> 03:29:24,100
wearing. Okay, the charge we gave for our

3789
03:29:24,100 --> 03:29:28,100
team in preparing for our flag ship summer

3790
03:29:28,100 --> 03:29:31,100
at your library program had a little bit

3791
03:29:31,100 --> 03:29:36,401
of added weight so we asked staff to pivot

3792
03:29:37,100 --> 03:29:41,100
to offer a hybrid virtual in person

3793
03:29:41,100 --> 03:29:44,100
offering that offered safe but dynamic and

3794
03:29:44,100 --> 03:29:46,100
fun ways to access the resources the

3795
03:29:46,100 --> 03:29:48,100
library offered during the summer months

3796
03:29:48,100 --> 03:29:50,100
and the significant increase we saw and

3797
03:29:50,100 --> 03:29:52,100
participation on the digital platform

3798
03:29:52,100 --> 03:29:56,100
helps tell the story of their success in

3799
03:29:56,100 --> 03:29:58,401
meeting that challenge. Summer

3800
03:29:59,100 --> 03:30:02,100
programming is such a draw and so popular

3801
03:30:02,100 --> 03:30:04,100
with families and the intentionality here

3802
03:30:04,100 --> 03:30:07,100
is that we are keeping young people

3803
03:30:07,100 --> 03:30:09,100
engaged with these reading challenges,

3804
03:30:09,100 --> 03:30:12,100
with take home activities we develop

3805
03:30:12,100 --> 03:30:15,601
following for with performers and reducing

3806
03:30:18,100 --> 03:30:20,100
the negative effect of the summer slide

3807
03:30:20,100 --> 03:30:24,100
when student are not in school and their

3808
03:30:24,100 --> 03:30:28,201
skill sets are regressing because they are

3809
03:30:29,100 --> 03:30:31,100
on home on break. We are looking for ways

3810
03:30:31,100 --> 03:30:34,100
to nurture the connections staff has with

3811
03:30:34,100 --> 03:30:37,100
the families we know so well that come to

3812
03:30:37,100 --> 03:30:40,100
our locations. I want to highlight the

3813
03:30:40,100 --> 03:30:42,100
department's commitment to supporting

3814
03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:46,100
local talent for our summer performers so

3815
03:30:46,100 --> 03:30:50,801
that is gabe cristner out of wild things.

3816
03:30:55,100 --> 03:30:57,100
they worked so well with our team to be

3817
03:30:57,100 --> 03:31:01,100
able to adapt their talent to online venue

3818
03:31:01,100 --> 03:31:05,100
to reach families and we have really built

3819
03:31:05,100 --> 03:31:07,100
a nice community of practice there and

3820
03:31:07,100 --> 03:31:11,100
really proud to support their work. Okay,

3821
03:31:11,100 --> 03:31:14,100
finally, I am happy to share the library

3822
03:31:14,100 --> 03:31:17,100
service department continues to move

3823
03:31:17,100 --> 03:31:20,100
forward and starting january preschool

3824
03:31:22,100 --> 03:31:25,100
story times and book clubs will resume and

3825
03:31:25,100 --> 03:31:27,100
meeting rooms available for community use

3826
03:31:27,100 --> 03:31:29,100
in january. With that I'll turn it back

3827
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:32,100
to mary to give a update on the library

3828
03:31:32,100 --> 03:31:33,100
strategic plan.

3829
03:31:33,100 --> 03:31:36,100
>> so, we have 4 primary goals in the

3830
03:31:36,100 --> 03:31:39,100
strategic plan. All of the library teams

3831
03:31:39,100 --> 03:31:40,100
and divisions are working towards

3832
03:31:40,100 --> 03:31:42,100
completing the goals and they are doing a

3833
03:31:42,100 --> 03:31:46,801
excellent job. We have a number of work

3834
03:31:47,100 --> 03:31:51,100
going on in each one of these areas but I

3835
03:31:51,100 --> 03:31:53,100
wanted to highlight one in each.

3836
03:31:53,100 --> 03:31:56,100
innovative service delivery, the automated

3837
03:31:58,100 --> 03:32:00,100
handling and book drop installed in

3838
03:32:00,100 --> 03:32:02,100
february. Should be up and running for

3839
03:32:02,100 --> 03:32:04,100
customers in march and we are planning for

3840
03:32:04,100 --> 03:32:06,100
but don't expect any interruption in

3841
03:32:06,100 --> 03:32:09,100
service to our customers. Under community

3842
03:32:09,100 --> 03:32:12,100
engage. We'll be contracting a marketing

3843
03:32:12,100 --> 03:32:14,100
consultant to assist in developing a

3844
03:32:14,100 --> 03:32:17,100
strategies to advertise library services

3845
03:32:17,100 --> 03:32:20,100
and increase our use more broadly.

3846
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:23,100
strategic partnerships, we have developed

3847
03:32:23,100 --> 03:32:26,100
a wonderful partnership with the tahoe

3848
03:32:26,100 --> 03:32:28,100
truckee unified school district. One of

3849
03:32:28,100 --> 03:32:32,201
the capstones goals end goals in the

3850
03:32:34,100 --> 03:32:36,100
strategic plan is to get a library card

3851
03:32:36,100 --> 03:32:41,100
into the hand of young school age child so

3852
03:32:41,100 --> 03:32:44,100
tahoe truckee unified school district

3853
03:32:44,100 --> 03:32:49,100
reached out to us and we used a mou from

3854
03:32:49,100 --> 03:32:51,100
nevada county library and that has been

3855
03:32:51,100 --> 03:32:53,100
vetted by council and we will be before

3856
03:32:53,100 --> 03:32:55,100
your board for your consideration in the

3857
03:32:55,100 --> 03:32:59,100
coming weeks. We hope to use that mou as

3858
03:32:59,100 --> 03:33:03,100
a starting place for future mou that will

3859
03:33:03,100 --> 03:33:06,100
develop throughout placer county schools

3860
03:33:07,100 --> 03:33:10,100
and reach that capstone goal. Under

3861
03:33:10,100 --> 03:33:12,100
service oriented workforce developed and

3862
03:33:12,100 --> 03:33:14,100
training a set of customer service

3863
03:33:14,100 --> 03:33:17,601
standard we annually evaluate to guarantee

3864
03:33:18,100 --> 03:33:21,100
excellent service. These standards also

3865
03:33:21,100 --> 03:33:23,100
emphasize the unique public service nature

3866
03:33:23,100 --> 03:33:27,100
of librarianship and offer a blue print to

3867
03:33:27,100 --> 03:33:30,100
build upon the staff skill set. Staff

3868
03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:31,100
training seek opportunity to acknowledge

3869
03:33:31,100 --> 03:33:34,100
and train to staff and customer safety

3870
03:33:34,100 --> 03:33:37,100
while out on the public service floors.

3871
03:33:37,100 --> 03:33:40,100
finally, I like to tell you about the

3872
03:33:40,100 --> 03:33:42,100
library services study. Your board and

3873
03:33:42,100 --> 03:33:45,100
the ceo office initiated a study and hired

3874
03:33:45,100 --> 03:33:49,100
a consultant to provide best practices for

3875
03:33:49,100 --> 03:33:51,100
optimal library service moving forward.

3876
03:33:51,100 --> 03:33:54,100
we are pleased to support that effort.

3877
03:33:54,100 --> 03:33:57,100
the study is in its initial gathering

3878
03:33:57,100 --> 03:34:00,100
phase and look outward to community input

3879
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:03,601
holding many virtual town hall meetings

3880
03:34:05,100 --> 03:34:08,100
early january and in-person regional

3881
03:34:08,100 --> 03:34:10,100
meetings the end of january so please stay

3882
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:12,100
tuned as the meeting will be broadly

3883
03:34:12,100 --> 03:34:14,100
publicized. Thank you so much for your

3884
03:34:14,100 --> 03:34:17,100
time and for your support of our libraries

3885
03:34:17,100 --> 03:34:20,100
always. Sophy and I are happy to address

3886
03:34:20,100 --> 03:34:22,100
your questions and wish you all a happy

3887
03:34:22,100 --> 03:34:23,100
holidays.

3888
03:34:23,100 --> 03:34:26,100
>> thanks mary and sophie. Any questions

3889
03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:29,100
or comments from board members? Jim.

3890
03:34:29,100 --> 03:34:33,100
>> thank you mr. Chair. As you know I'm a

3891
03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:36,100
big library fan. You can put a book on

3892
03:34:36,100 --> 03:34:38,100
that. Sorry.

3893
03:34:38,100 --> 03:34:39,100
[laughter]

3894
03:34:39,100 --> 03:34:41,100
>> punt intended.

3895
03:34:41,100 --> 03:34:44,100
>> which of our libraries is the most

3896
03:34:44,100 --> 03:34:46,100
active, the busiest?

3897
03:34:46,100 --> 03:34:49,100
>> auburn. Auburn does about 35 percent

3898
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:53,100
for the system. Rockland is close second

3899
03:34:53,100 --> 03:34:55,100
with about 25, 26 percent.

3900
03:34:56,100 --> 03:35:00,100
>> I kind of assumed that. Because it is

3901
03:35:00,100 --> 03:35:04,201
the oldest library been there since the

3902
03:35:06,100 --> 03:35:07,100
70?

3903
03:35:07,100 --> 03:35:08,100
>> 1973, yep.

3904
03:35:08,100 --> 03:35:12,100
>> a lot of people know where it is at.

3905
03:35:12,100 --> 03:35:14,100
I'm pleased at the innovative services you

3906
03:35:14,100 --> 03:35:16,100
are bringing forward are being utilized in

3907
03:35:16,100 --> 03:35:19,100
the rockland library. Is that correct?

3908
03:35:19,100 --> 03:35:22,100
because it is up scale more newer library

3909
03:35:22,100 --> 03:35:25,100
facility and more upscale so they are able

3910
03:35:25,100 --> 03:35:28,100
to do that. I remember when I first took

3911
03:35:28,100 --> 03:35:32,100
office I went down to rockland and looked

3912
03:35:32,100 --> 03:35:36,100
at their library, springview park. It was

3913
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:39,100
very disappointing and it was important-I

3914
03:35:39,100 --> 03:35:42,100
worked with supervisor weygandt. We went

3915
03:35:42,100 --> 03:35:45,100
to the rockland city council, worked

3916
03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:48,100
together with them and came up with a plan

3917
03:35:48,100 --> 03:35:52,100
to they were able to buy that building but

3918
03:35:52,100 --> 03:35:56,100
working with them we got the new library

3919
03:35:56,100 --> 03:35:58,100
in rockland. It has been now 11 years in

3920
03:35:58,100 --> 03:35:59,100
service.

3921
03:35:59,100 --> 03:36:00,100
>> yep.

3922
03:36:00,100 --> 03:36:02,100
>> and that was one of the most important

3923
03:36:02,100 --> 03:36:06,100
things in my career that I was able to do

3924
03:36:06,100 --> 03:36:09,100
and just hope citizens of rockland

3925
03:36:09,100 --> 03:36:13,201
understand that the role of board of

3926
03:36:14,100 --> 03:36:16,100
supervisors had in that is instrumental.

3927
03:36:16,100 --> 03:36:19,100
again, great job. The numbers at the

3928
03:36:19,100 --> 03:36:22,100
auburn library are probably-I'm over there

3929
03:36:22,100 --> 03:36:26,100
about once or twice a day. My last

3930
03:36:26,100 --> 03:36:28,100
question is, can you recommend any good

3931
03:36:28,100 --> 03:36:30,100
books?

3932
03:36:30,100 --> 03:36:32,100
[laughter]

3933
03:36:32,100 --> 03:36:33,100
>> you can?

3934
03:36:33,100 --> 03:36:37,100
>> I'm reading a biography about the doors

3935
03:36:37,100 --> 03:36:40,100
right now. Robby creiger, the guitarist

3936
03:36:40,100 --> 03:36:43,100
for the doors just published his biography

3937
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:46,100
so that is what I'm reading. Sophie.

3938
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:49,100
>> I have a 6 year old so we read a lot of

3939
03:36:49,100 --> 03:36:51,100
children books. Not sure that would fit

3940
03:36:51,100 --> 03:36:53,100
your needs.

3941
03:36:55,100 --> 03:36:57,100
>> that would be a good fit for me if you

3942
03:36:57,100 --> 03:36:59,100
can keep the 6 year old recommendations.

3943
03:36:59,100 --> 03:37:02,100
>> sure, sure. I'll reach out.

3944
03:37:02,100 --> 03:37:04,100
>> I'm hoping to get the fun little kids

3945
03:37:04,100 --> 03:37:07,100
activities to give me something to do when

3946
03:37:07,100 --> 03:37:10,100
I want to--do something mindless after

3947
03:37:10,100 --> 03:37:14,100
crazy days so I was really excited to see

3948
03:37:14,100 --> 03:37:17,100
that and sure it is a great hit for the

3949
03:37:17,100 --> 03:37:18,100
kids and thank you for the update.

3950
03:37:18,100 --> 03:37:19,100
>> cindy.

3951
03:37:19,100 --> 03:37:23,100
>> thank you and thanks for your service

3952
03:37:23,100 --> 03:37:25,100
and dedication, especially I know it has

3953
03:37:25,100 --> 03:37:27,100
been a very challenging year for all of us

3954
03:37:27,100 --> 03:37:30,601
to deliver public services during covid.

3955
03:37:31,100 --> 03:37:33,100
two questions on the mobile library you

3956
03:37:33,100 --> 03:37:37,801
made a point you visited colfax with the

3957
03:37:38,100 --> 03:37:41,100
vehicle and thinking colfax has a fixed

3958
03:37:41,100 --> 03:37:44,100
library. Shouldn't we focus those

3959
03:37:44,100 --> 03:37:46,100
energies-you were trying to promote but

3960
03:37:46,100 --> 03:37:48,100
shouldn't we focus the energies on the

3961
03:37:48,100 --> 03:37:51,100
communities that don't have libraries?

3962
03:37:51,100 --> 03:37:54,100
that was just to promote it is

3963
03:37:54,100 --> 03:37:57,100
>> we just started mobile services on

3964
03:37:57,100 --> 03:37:59,100
september 16 so it was really to support

3965
03:37:59,100 --> 03:38:02,100
the colfax library staff and they were

3966
03:38:02,100 --> 03:38:04,100
giving away things, railroad books and

3967
03:38:04,100 --> 03:38:06,100
doing event so it was more a literacy

3968
03:38:06,100 --> 03:38:09,100
promotion of library services in general.

3969
03:38:09,100 --> 03:38:11,100
we probably should have been in colfax for

3970
03:38:11,100 --> 03:38:14,601
the holiday parade this weekend. We

3971
03:38:15,100 --> 03:38:19,201
should always be in tahoe for snow-fest

3972
03:38:20,100 --> 03:38:23,100
and hot car or cool car hot chilly in

3973
03:38:23,100 --> 03:38:27,100
rockland so we probably will do a little

3974
03:38:27,100 --> 03:38:30,100
of that but I hear you we will be

3975
03:38:30,100 --> 03:38:33,601
supporting the rural and remote areas

3976
03:38:34,100 --> 03:38:37,100
farthest away from the brick and mortar.

3977
03:38:37,100 --> 03:38:40,100
>> community events versus visitor events

3978
03:38:40,100 --> 03:38:42,100
are important to build support for the

3979
03:38:42,100 --> 03:38:45,100
libraries. Secondly, on the community

3980
03:38:45,100 --> 03:38:48,100
engagement you talked hiring a consultant.

3981
03:38:48,100 --> 03:38:50,100
I hope you are working with our pio who

3982
03:38:50,100 --> 03:38:53,601
has tremendous social media skills because

3983
03:38:55,100 --> 03:38:58,100
I think if people got a most in next doors

3984
03:38:58,100 --> 03:39:01,601
the mobile library was visiting their

3985
03:39:02,100 --> 03:39:04,100
community today at noon come out you would

3986
03:39:04,100 --> 03:39:06,100
get a lot more response and same with

3987
03:39:06,100 --> 03:39:08,100
social media on hours and closures and

3988
03:39:08,100 --> 03:39:10,100
those sorts of things because it has been

3989
03:39:10,100 --> 03:39:13,100
challenging in some of the branches.

3990
03:39:13,100 --> 03:39:14,100
>> thank you.

3991
03:39:14,100 --> 03:39:15,100
>> otherwise it looks like a great plan

3992
03:39:15,100 --> 03:39:18,100
and thanks for the report.

3993
03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:22,201
>> yeah, thanks to both. Look forward to

3994
03:39:23,100 --> 03:39:26,100
the updates going forward and been amazing

3995
03:39:26,100 --> 03:39:29,100
how technology has changed with library

3996
03:39:29,100 --> 03:39:32,100
service and look forward hearing more

3997
03:39:32,100 --> 03:39:34,100
about that and how we do reach out more

3998
03:39:34,100 --> 03:39:38,201
effectively to the community so thank you.

3999
03:39:41,100 --> 03:39:45,801
now we are going to go sorry, public

4000
03:39:46,100 --> 03:39:48,100
comment, please.

4001
03:39:49,100 --> 03:39:52,100
>> dave, go ahead and unmute your mic and

4002
03:39:52,100 --> 03:39:56,201
give your comments. Dave. Can you unmute

4003
03:40:00,100 --> 03:40:04,201
your mic and give your comments? Jeffrey

4004
03:40:14,100 --> 03:40:17,100
can you unmute your mic and give your

4005
03:40:17,100 --> 03:40:20,601
comments? Jeffrey are you unable to

4006
03:40:26,100 --> 03:40:28,100
unmute your mic?

4007
03:40:56,100 --> 03:40:57,100
>> thank you.

4008
03:40:57,100 --> 03:40:58,100
>> okay.

4009
03:40:58,100 --> 03:41:01,100
>> okay, so now thank you we'll take up

4010
03:41:01,100 --> 03:41:04,100
our 915 timed item, which is-

4011
03:41:07,100 --> 03:41:09,401
>> are we in hawaii?

4012
03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:14,100
>> I know. The 915-

4013
03:41:15,100 --> 03:41:18,100
>> I just said in hawaii.

4014
03:41:18,100 --> 03:41:22,100
>> 915 in the morning timed item which is

4015
03:41:22,100 --> 03:41:23,100
deferral program extension and by the way

4016
03:41:23,100 --> 03:41:27,100
it is on page 1 of the agenda item.

4017
03:41:27,100 --> 03:41:28,100
claudia.

4018
03:41:28,100 --> 03:41:30,100
>> thank you good afternoon chair members

4019
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:33,100
of the board. Claudia wade engineering

4020
03:41:33,100 --> 03:41:34,100
manager with community development

4021
03:41:34,100 --> 03:41:36,100
resource agency. We asking the board

4022
03:41:36,100 --> 03:41:38,100
introduce and wave the oral reading of

4023
03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:40,100
ordinance to amend placer county code

4024
03:41:40,100 --> 03:41:43,100
chapter 15 article 15.70 to extend the

4025
03:41:44,100 --> 03:41:47,100
existing fee deferral program until

4026
03:41:47,100 --> 03:41:49,401
december 31, 2023. Brief background in

4027
03:41:51,100 --> 03:41:53,100
response to statewide slowing of the

4028
03:41:53,100 --> 03:41:55,100
housing market economy the board adopted a

4029
03:41:55,100 --> 03:41:58,100
fee deferral program in 2008. Fees are

4030
03:41:58,100 --> 03:42:01,601
typically due at building permit issuance

4031
03:42:02,100 --> 03:42:06,100
allows for fees to be paid early of final

4032
03:42:06,100 --> 03:42:09,100
inspection or 2 years. Impact fees

4033
03:42:09,100 --> 03:42:10,100
associated with the fee deferral program

4034
03:42:10,100 --> 03:42:13,100
are county traffic fee, the capital

4035
03:42:13,100 --> 03:42:16,100
facility impact fee, parks fees and sewer

4036
03:42:16,100 --> 03:42:19,100
connection fees. This short-term deferral

4037
03:42:19,100 --> 03:42:22,100
program allows fee payment closer to the

4038
03:42:22,100 --> 03:42:25,100
time impacts occur on associated

4039
03:42:26,100 --> 03:42:27,100
infrastructure. The program helps make

4040
03:42:27,100 --> 03:42:30,100
projects more feasible which can stimulate

4041
03:42:30,100 --> 03:42:33,100
economic development while still requiring

4042
03:42:33,100 --> 03:42:36,100
fee collection in time to fund needed

4043
03:42:36,100 --> 03:42:39,100
improvements. As well as provide cash

4044
03:42:39,100 --> 03:42:41,100
flow flexibility at the onset of the

4045
03:42:41,100 --> 03:42:44,100
project. Examples of projects that take

4046
03:42:44,100 --> 03:42:46,100
advantage of the program include the hill

4047
03:42:46,100 --> 03:42:48,100
top hotel in auburn, most affordable

4048
03:42:48,100 --> 03:42:50,100
housing projects of which this program is

4049
03:42:50,100 --> 03:42:53,100
a benefit due to the timing of

4050
03:42:53,100 --> 03:42:55,100
reimbursement from the state. As well as

4051
03:42:55,100 --> 03:42:57,100
individual property owners building their

4052
03:42:57,100 --> 03:43:00,100
homes. This fee program expires december

4053
03:43:00,100 --> 03:43:02,100
31 this year. By approval of the item the

4054
03:43:02,100 --> 03:43:05,601
program will be extended 2 years. This

4055
03:43:09,100 --> 03:43:10,100
concludes my presentation and available

4056
03:43:10,100 --> 03:43:11,100
for questions.

4057
03:43:11,100 --> 03:43:14,100
>> thanks claudia. Cindy question or

4058
03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:16,100
comment?

4059
03:43:16,100 --> 03:43:17,100
>> no.

4060
03:43:17,100 --> 03:43:18,100
>> seeing no questions from board members

4061
03:43:18,100 --> 03:43:20,100
at this time anyone from the public who

4062
03:43:20,100 --> 03:43:22,100
would like to address the item?

4063
03:43:22,100 --> 03:43:27,100
>> we have a few on. Jeff, can you unmute

4064
03:43:27,100 --> 03:43:29,100
your mic and give your comments?

4065
03:43:29,100 --> 03:43:31,100
>> yes, thank you. This is jeff short

4066
03:43:31,100 --> 03:43:34,100
north state building industry association,

4067
03:43:35,100 --> 03:43:37,100
thank you for the opportunity to comment

4068
03:43:37,100 --> 03:43:40,100
on the very important item. This program

4069
03:43:40,100 --> 03:43:44,100
fee deferrals began back because of the

4070
03:43:44,100 --> 03:43:46,100
construction slow down associated with the

4071
03:43:46,100 --> 03:43:49,100
recession in 2008 but that is-the

4072
03:43:49,100 --> 03:43:52,100
ramifications of the slow down are still

4073
03:43:52,100 --> 03:43:55,100
dealt with today. As you know, we have a

4074
03:43:55,100 --> 03:43:57,100
long way to go to build whether the

4075
03:43:57,100 --> 03:43:59,100
housing we need in the state in the county

4076
03:43:59,100 --> 03:44:01,100
and in the unincorporated portion of the

4077
03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:04,100
county so we very much appreciate your

4078
03:44:04,100 --> 03:44:06,100
board continuing this fee deferral program

4079
03:44:06,100 --> 03:44:08,100
and allowing these incentives for housing

4080
03:44:08,100 --> 03:44:11,100
construction to continue, especially right

4081
03:44:11,100 --> 03:44:13,100
now the timing is right building is really

4082
03:44:13,100 --> 03:44:16,100
just starting to take off in

4083
03:44:16,100 --> 03:44:19,100
unincorporated placer so this extension

4084
03:44:20,100 --> 03:44:23,100
could not come at a more opportune time.

4085
03:44:23,100 --> 03:44:24,100
thank you so much.

4086
03:44:24,100 --> 03:44:26,100
>> thanks jeff.

4087
03:44:27,100 --> 03:44:30,100
>> veronica, can you unmute your mic.

4088
03:44:30,100 --> 03:44:33,100
>> good afternoon this is veronica blake

4089
03:44:33,100 --> 03:44:36,100
ceo placer county foundation. Just wanted

4090
03:44:36,100 --> 03:44:38,100
to give a quick comment. Given the cost

4091
03:44:38,100 --> 03:44:41,100
barriers for the development of projects

4092
03:44:41,100 --> 03:44:43,100
we want to encourage your board support of

4093
03:44:43,100 --> 03:44:45,100
the fee deferral program for affordable

4094
03:44:45,100 --> 03:44:48,100
housing projects. This is one of many

4095
03:44:48,100 --> 03:44:50,100
strategies we need to employ to achieve

4096
03:44:50,100 --> 03:44:52,100
housing for all our residents and with

4097
03:44:52,100 --> 03:44:54,100
that that's just all of our comments for

4098
03:44:54,100 --> 03:44:55,100
today.

4099
03:44:55,100 --> 03:44:57,100
>> thanks veronica.

4100
03:45:01,100 --> 03:45:03,100
>> jeffrey can you unmute your mic and

4101
03:45:03,100 --> 03:45:06,601
give your comments? Jeffrey, can you

4102
03:45:11,100 --> 03:45:15,201
unmute your mic and give your comments?

4103
03:45:17,100 --> 03:45:20,100
>> it's not our end, sir.

4104
03:45:20,100 --> 03:45:23,100
>> okay. Thanks for that. I'll bring it

4105
03:45:23,100 --> 03:45:24,100
back to the board.

4106
03:45:24,100 --> 03:45:26,100
>> I'll move approval of the item.

4107
03:45:26,100 --> 03:45:27,100
>> second.

4108
03:45:27,100 --> 03:45:30,100
>> motion gore, second gustafson. All in

4109
03:45:30,100 --> 03:45:32,401
favor say aye. Opposed?

4110
03:45:33,100 --> 03:45:36,100
>> I wanted to ask some questions, but-

4111
03:45:36,100 --> 03:45:38,401
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead.

4112
03:45:39,100 --> 03:45:42,601
>> okay. Okay. Who will answer my

4113
03:45:43,100 --> 03:45:46,601
questions? Okay. I was just curious

4114
03:45:47,100 --> 03:45:50,100
about a couple things since I'm new. Has

4115
03:45:50,100 --> 03:45:53,601
this been-is this reviewed every 2 years

4116
03:45:54,100 --> 03:45:56,100
for renewal?

4117
03:45:58,100 --> 03:46:00,100
>> that's correct. Claudia you want to

4118
03:46:00,100 --> 03:46:01,100
confirm?

4119
03:46:01,100 --> 03:46:04,601
>> sure, this fee program has been

4120
03:46:05,100 --> 03:46:09,100
extended 4 times prior and in 2 years we

4121
03:46:09,100 --> 03:46:11,100
can review the program again.

4122
03:46:11,100 --> 03:46:15,100
>> okay, I was curious as to what

4123
03:46:15,100 --> 03:46:16,100
determines the rate the housing market, it

4124
03:46:16,100 --> 03:46:19,100
is good, not good? I thought the housing

4125
03:46:19,100 --> 03:46:22,100
market caught on fire but can be wrong.

4126
03:46:22,100 --> 03:46:25,100
is there some measuring gauge we use for

4127
03:46:25,100 --> 03:46:27,100
that determination?

4128
03:46:29,100 --> 03:46:32,100
>> can you repeat your question, sorry?

4129
03:46:32,100 --> 03:46:35,100
>> how do you gauge whether the market has

4130
03:46:35,100 --> 03:46:38,100
picked up or it has not?

4131
03:46:38,100 --> 03:46:42,801
>> it is picked up the fees have also

4132
03:46:43,100 --> 03:46:45,100
increased with it and this is a mechanism

4133
03:46:45,100 --> 03:46:49,201
just to assist for a cash flow

4134
03:46:53,100 --> 03:46:55,100
perspective. Deferral is until final

4135
03:46:55,100 --> 03:46:58,100
inspection or occupancy or 2 years. After

4136
03:46:58,100 --> 03:47:00,100
2 years of building permit issuance these

4137
03:47:00,100 --> 03:47:01,100
are due.

4138
03:47:01,100 --> 03:47:04,100
>> okay, because like I said, what is your

4139
03:47:04,100 --> 03:47:07,100
gauge as far as everybody is saying the

4140
03:47:07,100 --> 03:47:09,100
housing market has not picked up in the

4141
03:47:09,100 --> 03:47:12,601
last 13 years--it was 2008 when this was

4142
03:47:17,100 --> 03:47:20,100
started so 13 years have gone and say is

4143
03:47:20,100 --> 03:47:22,100
the housing market in a similar situation

4144
03:47:22,100 --> 03:47:23,100
as it was in 2008?

4145
03:47:23,100 --> 03:47:26,100
>> it has improved, but at this point it

4146
03:47:26,100 --> 03:47:29,100
is being used more so as a cash flow and

4147
03:47:29,100 --> 03:47:33,100
economic development. Sean I see sean at

4148
03:47:33,100 --> 03:47:36,100
the podium. I'll let her speak.

4149
03:47:36,100 --> 03:47:38,100
>> good afternoon sean [inaudible

4150
03:47:38,100 --> 03:47:40,100
comments] community development resource

4151
03:47:40,100 --> 03:47:43,100
agency. The housing market picked up as

4152
03:47:43,100 --> 03:47:45,100
far as sales of housing that was on the

4153
03:47:45,100 --> 03:47:48,100
market, we are just now starting to see

4154
03:47:48,100 --> 03:47:49,100
the construction, so the new permits

4155
03:47:49,100 --> 03:47:52,100
picking up. Generally on average the

4156
03:47:52,100 --> 03:47:55,100
unincorporated area placer county see 300

4157
03:47:56,100 --> 03:47:58,100
single family new starts per yearment we

4158
03:47:58,100 --> 03:48:01,100
are anticipating closer to 500 maybe a

4159
03:48:01,100 --> 03:48:04,100
little more this year and see the

4160
03:48:04,100 --> 03:48:06,100
trajectory go up but the construction side

4161
03:48:06,100 --> 03:48:09,100
is just now picking up in response to the

4162
03:48:09,100 --> 03:48:11,100
demand we saw in the retail side of the

4163
03:48:11,100 --> 03:48:12,100
for sale.

4164
03:48:12,100 --> 03:48:16,100
>> great. Thank you shana. And thank you

4165
03:48:16,100 --> 03:48:19,100
claudia. Appreciate it. Okay, I'm good.

4166
03:48:19,100 --> 03:48:21,100
>> do you want to reconsideration or-

4167
03:48:21,100 --> 03:48:23,100
>> no, no, I'm good-just had questions.

4168
03:48:23,100 --> 03:48:26,100
>> sorry I didn't catch your light quickly

4169
03:48:26,100 --> 03:48:29,601
enough. We have a vote, right?

4170
03:48:30,100 --> 03:48:31,100
>> yes.

4171
03:48:31,100 --> 03:48:35,100
>> now we'll take up our 920 timed item,

4172
03:48:35,100 --> 03:48:38,601
920. Item number 2. I just asked the

4173
03:48:41,100 --> 03:48:42,100
same question.

4174
03:48:42,100 --> 03:48:45,601
>> you have a motion [inaudible comments]

4175
03:48:46,100 --> 03:48:49,100
>> we haven't voted? Okay. All in favor

4176
03:48:49,100 --> 03:48:52,100
say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

4177
03:48:52,100 --> 03:48:56,201
thanks. Thank you bonnie and megan. On

4178
03:48:59,100 --> 03:49:02,100
my last meeting. 920 timed item is the

4179
03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:05,100
placer vineyard specific plan fee schedule

4180
03:49:05,100 --> 03:49:07,100
annual adjustment. Claudia.

4181
03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:09,100
>> good afternoon once again. Chair

4182
03:49:09,100 --> 03:49:12,601
members of the board. Claudia wade.

4183
03:49:15,100 --> 03:49:17,100
today we are asking to conduct a public

4184
03:49:17,100 --> 03:49:19,100
hearing adopt resolution to adjust the

4185
03:49:19,100 --> 03:49:22,601
placer vineyard specific fee schedule for

4186
03:49:23,100 --> 03:49:25,100
fiscal year 2021-22. A clerical

4187
03:49:25,100 --> 03:49:28,100
correction was made on the map shown in

4188
03:49:28,100 --> 03:49:31,100
exhibit b. Exhibit b has been provided to

4189
03:49:31,100 --> 03:49:33,100
the board and public. Staff request the

4190
03:49:33,100 --> 03:49:36,100
board adopt the resolution with amended

4191
03:49:36,100 --> 03:49:39,100
exhibit b. A brief background.

4192
03:49:41,100 --> 03:49:43,100
[inaudible comments] add article 15.85

4193
03:49:43,100 --> 03:49:46,100
which established the placer vineyard fee

4194
03:49:46,100 --> 03:49:49,100
program. The county code requires this

4195
03:49:49,100 --> 03:49:52,100
program be adjusted annually using the

4196
03:49:52,100 --> 03:49:54,100
average of the change from the most

4197
03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:57,100
currently available index for the same

4198
03:49:57,100 --> 03:49:59,100
month of the previous year using the

4199
03:49:59,100 --> 03:50:02,100
average percent change in the san

4200
03:50:02,100 --> 03:50:04,100
francisco and [inaudible comments] average

4201
03:50:04,100 --> 03:50:05,100
construction cost index reported in

4202
03:50:05,100 --> 03:50:07,401
engineering record. The calculated

4203
03:50:08,100 --> 03:50:11,100
average of the change from november 2020

4204
03:50:11,100 --> 03:50:14,100
to november 21 resulted in increase of

4205
03:50:14,100 --> 03:50:17,100
8.64 percent. Attachment one provides the

4206
03:50:18,100 --> 03:50:21,100
updated cost to the fee schedule. This

4207
03:50:21,100 --> 03:50:22,100
concludes my presentation and available

4208
03:50:22,100 --> 03:50:24,100
for any questions.

4209
03:50:24,100 --> 03:50:26,100
>> thanks claudia. Any questions

4210
03:50:26,100 --> 03:50:27,100
by-bonnie?

4211
03:50:27,100 --> 03:50:29,100
>> no questions, but interesting I thought

4212
03:50:29,100 --> 03:50:33,100
I would point out it is a 8.64 percent

4213
03:50:33,100 --> 03:50:35,100
increase so we are definitely

4214
03:50:35,100 --> 03:50:37,100
unfortunately seeing the effect of

4215
03:50:37,100 --> 03:50:40,100
inflation, especially on our building

4216
03:50:41,100 --> 03:50:43,100
industry, the construction industry.

4217
03:50:43,100 --> 03:50:46,100
>> thanks. Any other questions? Seeing

4218
03:50:46,100 --> 03:50:50,100
none, this is a public hearing so open up

4219
03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:51,100
the public hearing. Anyone from the

4220
03:50:51,100 --> 03:50:55,201
public wish to comment on this item?

4221
03:50:56,100 --> 03:50:57,100
>> [inaudible comments]

4222
03:50:57,100 --> 03:50:59,100
>> seeing none, we'll close the public

4223
03:50:59,100 --> 03:51:00,100
hearing and bring this back to the board

4224
03:51:00,100 --> 03:51:03,100
for consideration. Motion holmes, second

4225
03:51:07,100 --> 03:51:10,100
gustafson. All in favor aye. Opposed?

4226
03:51:10,100 --> 03:51:12,100
motion carries. Now we'll take up the

4227
03:51:12,100 --> 03:51:14,100
first department item which is amend

4228
03:51:14,100 --> 03:51:17,100
placer county code chapter 2 regarding

4229
03:51:17,100 --> 03:51:19,100
compensation reimbursement for grand

4230
03:51:19,100 --> 03:51:20,100
jurors.

4231
03:51:20,100 --> 03:51:23,100
>> alright. Good afternoon chair weygandt

4232
03:51:23,100 --> 03:51:26,100
members of the board. Mr. Leopold

4233
03:51:26,100 --> 03:51:29,601
[inaudible comments] I where am amanda

4234
03:51:30,100 --> 03:51:33,100
flow here today to request change to the

4235
03:51:33,100 --> 03:51:35,100
placer county code to update the grand

4236
03:51:35,100 --> 03:51:38,100
jury meeting limit. Also here with me

4237
03:51:38,100 --> 03:51:42,201
today waiting very patiently is lor ina

4238
03:51:44,100 --> 03:51:48,201
sims the grand jury foreman. Chapter 2 of

4239
03:51:52,100 --> 03:51:54,100
the placer county code provides

4240
03:51:54,100 --> 03:51:56,100
regulations for compensation and

4241
03:51:56,100 --> 03:51:58,100
reimbursement for grand jurors. Following

4242
03:51:58,100 --> 03:52:01,601
a recent review of section 2.112.060 the

4243
03:52:03,100 --> 03:52:05,100
county executive office identified the

4244
03:52:05,100 --> 03:52:07,100
need to update language related to

4245
03:52:07,100 --> 03:52:10,100
compensation for attendants by grand

4246
03:52:10,100 --> 03:52:12,100
jurors at committee and subcommittee

4247
03:52:12,100 --> 03:52:15,100
meetings. Current code states each member

4248
03:52:15,100 --> 03:52:18,601
of the grand jury receive $10 for

4249
03:52:19,100 --> 03:52:20,100
attendance at each committee or

4250
03:52:20,100 --> 03:52:22,100
subcommittee meeting up to a limit of 2

4251
03:52:22,100 --> 03:52:25,601
meetings per day. In recognition that

4252
03:52:26,100 --> 03:52:30,100
very duties of the grand juries may

4253
03:52:30,100 --> 03:52:32,100
require attendance of 3 or meeting in a

4254
03:52:32,100 --> 03:52:34,100
day especially with zoom and special

4255
03:52:34,100 --> 03:52:37,100
back-to-back meetings and less driving,

4256
03:52:37,100 --> 03:52:39,100
the proposed ordinance removes this daily

4257
03:52:39,100 --> 03:52:43,100
limit of 2 meetings per day for the

4258
03:52:43,100 --> 03:52:45,100
committee and subcommittee meetings for

4259
03:52:45,100 --> 03:52:47,100
members of the grand jury. The proposed

4260
03:52:47,100 --> 03:52:49,100
amendment to this county code is not

4261
03:52:49,100 --> 03:52:52,100
expected to result in any fiscal impact.

4262
03:52:52,100 --> 03:52:55,100
the action requested today is introduce

4263
03:52:55,100 --> 03:52:58,100
ordinance, wave oral reading, amending

4264
03:52:58,100 --> 03:53:00,100
chapter 2 article 2.112 [inaudible

4265
03:53:02,100 --> 03:53:04,100
comments] of the placer county code to

4266
03:53:04,100 --> 03:53:07,100
remove the daily limit for committee

4267
03:53:07,100 --> 03:53:09,100
subcommittee meeting attendants for the

4268
03:53:09,100 --> 03:53:11,100
placer county grand jurors. With that,

4269
03:53:11,100 --> 03:53:13,100
I'll open for any questions.

4270
03:53:13,100 --> 03:53:15,100
>> thank you. Any questions by board

4271
03:53:15,100 --> 03:53:18,100
members at this time? Seeing none, is

4272
03:53:18,100 --> 03:53:19,100
there anyone from the public who would

4273
03:53:19,100 --> 03:53:23,100
like to address this item? Seeing none,

4274
03:53:23,100 --> 03:53:26,601
bring it back to the board.

4275
03:53:28,100 --> 03:53:30,100
>> I move approval and my goodness I think

4276
03:53:30,100 --> 03:53:33,100
it is probably worth giving more then $10

4277
03:53:33,100 --> 03:53:36,100
for just two meetings. Wow! When you

4278
03:53:36,100 --> 03:53:38,100
realize what that is it is a active

4279
03:53:38,100 --> 03:53:41,100
community service that our jurors are

4280
03:53:41,100 --> 03:53:42,100
doing.

4281
03:53:42,100 --> 03:53:44,100
>> [inaudible comments]

4282
03:53:45,100 --> 03:53:48,100
>> motion gore, second gustafson. All in

4283
03:53:48,100 --> 03:53:50,100
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

4284
03:53:50,100 --> 03:53:52,100
>> great. Thank you.

4285
03:53:52,100 --> 03:53:55,100
>> and now we'll take up our second

4286
03:53:55,100 --> 03:53:57,100
department item which is critical success

4287
03:53:57,100 --> 03:53:59,401
factors progress report. Jane

4288
03:54:02,100 --> 03:54:04,100
christensen.

4289
03:54:12,100 --> 03:54:15,100
>> good afternoon board chair supervisors.

4290
03:54:17,100 --> 03:54:20,100
jane christensen from the ceo office here

4291
03:54:20,100 --> 03:54:22,100
today along with ben mills who is our new

4292
03:54:22,100 --> 03:54:25,100
process and program administrator to

4293
03:54:25,100 --> 03:54:27,100
essentially provide a 2021 progress report

4294
03:54:27,100 --> 03:54:31,100
year end review. You may recall we do

4295
03:54:31,100 --> 03:54:34,100
this quarterly. The beginning of the year

4296
03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:36,100
in march to kick off what we anticipate to

4297
03:54:36,100 --> 03:54:39,100
be the work ahead for the coming year and

4298
03:54:39,100 --> 03:54:41,100
embedded update in both the proposed

4299
03:54:41,100 --> 03:54:43,100
budget in june and the final budget in

4300
03:54:43,100 --> 03:54:47,801
september and here in december for what I

4301
03:54:48,100 --> 03:54:50,100
call the victory lap, the year end review

4302
03:54:50,100 --> 03:54:53,100
on all things we have accomplished, you

4303
03:54:53,100 --> 03:54:56,100
have accomplished together with our county

4304
03:54:56,100 --> 03:54:59,100
staff over the intervening or preceding

4305
03:54:59,100 --> 03:55:02,100
year. Critical success factor timeline.

4306
03:55:02,100 --> 03:55:05,100
you recall we then had a new ceo todd

4307
03:55:05,100 --> 03:55:08,100
leopold in 2018 who initiated the

4308
03:55:10,100 --> 03:55:13,100
strategic planning effort. From 2019 to

4309
03:55:15,100 --> 03:55:18,100
2021 I and others provided progress

4310
03:55:20,100 --> 03:55:23,100
reports to advance the critical success

4311
03:55:23,100 --> 03:55:27,100
factors and will turn the page in 2022

4312
03:55:27,100 --> 03:55:29,100
over to ben to take to the next level with

4313
03:55:29,100 --> 03:55:32,100
performance metrix on those mentioned

4314
03:55:32,100 --> 03:55:35,601
initiatives. Tracking progress. As I go

4315
03:55:37,100 --> 03:55:39,100
through each of the critical success

4316
03:55:39,100 --> 03:55:41,100
factors you heard highlights from todd

4317
03:55:41,100 --> 03:55:44,100
this morning but this is some of the same

4318
03:55:44,100 --> 03:55:46,100
highlights but in the critical success

4319
03:55:46,100 --> 03:55:50,100
factors context that the board outlined at

4320
03:55:50,100 --> 03:55:53,100
february 2021 retreat. We know a

4321
03:55:54,100 --> 03:55:56,100
potential for under consideration a

4322
03:55:56,100 --> 03:55:58,100
calendar for item coming soon to a board

4323
03:55:58,100 --> 03:56:02,201
meeting near you, arrows for work in

4324
03:56:04,100 --> 03:56:05,100
progress moving ahead and check for

4325
03:56:05,100 --> 03:56:07,100
completed and pleased to say there is

4326
03:56:07,100 --> 03:56:12,100
quite a few checks as we look back on

4327
03:56:12,100 --> 03:56:14,100
2021. Strategic relationship and

4328
03:56:17,100 --> 03:56:19,100
community engagement. What a year had t

4329
03:56:19,100 --> 03:56:21,401
has been. Executing the 2021

4330
03:56:24,100 --> 03:56:27,100
redistricting process. We'll look for

4331
03:56:28,100 --> 03:56:30,100
volunteers in 10 years time so mark your

4332
03:56:30,100 --> 03:56:33,100
calendar. Also we are at work now with

4333
03:56:33,100 --> 03:56:36,100
interdisciplinary team of ceo, council,

4334
03:56:37,100 --> 03:56:40,100
the board of supervisors staff and sedra

4335
03:56:40,100 --> 03:56:43,100
to examine mac process improvements and

4336
03:56:43,100 --> 03:56:47,100
revisions for 2022 to expand the menu of

4337
03:56:47,100 --> 03:56:50,100
board outreach alternatives to reflect a

4338
03:56:50,100 --> 03:56:52,100
number of the lesson learned for what

4339
03:56:52,100 --> 03:56:56,100
works over the many months of covid. Also

4340
03:56:56,100 --> 03:56:59,100
coming in 2022 is your action plan on the

4341
03:56:59,100 --> 03:57:01,401
homeless services infrastructure needs

4342
03:57:02,100 --> 03:57:04,100
based on the regional effort begun this

4343
03:57:04,100 --> 03:57:06,100
past june in partnership with our city

4344
03:57:06,100 --> 03:57:10,201
elected's. Also too, the board number one

4345
03:57:11,100 --> 03:57:14,100
priority from the february 2021 retreat

4346
03:57:14,100 --> 03:57:16,100
was to really move the needle when it

4347
03:57:16,100 --> 03:57:19,601
comes to forest health and wildfire

4348
03:57:21,100 --> 03:57:24,100
management. We were successful hiring

4349
03:57:26,100 --> 03:57:28,100
kerrie [inaudible comments] and done great

4350
03:57:28,100 --> 03:57:31,100
things engaging regional partners on bio

4351
03:57:31,100 --> 03:57:34,100
mass work groups, completed the work done

4352
03:57:34,100 --> 03:57:37,100
under brett storey's leadership on french

4353
03:57:37,100 --> 03:57:40,100
meadows and advance our efforts and

4354
03:57:40,100 --> 03:57:42,100
hopefully secure federal and state funding

4355
03:57:42,100 --> 03:57:45,100
referenced earlier in the meeting today.

4356
03:57:45,100 --> 03:57:48,100
also too as mary just noted we have begun

4357
03:57:48,100 --> 03:57:51,100
our library service study. Really to look

4358
03:57:51,100 --> 03:57:53,100
at the library system as a whole as well

4359
03:57:53,100 --> 03:57:56,100
as to optimize service in eastern placer

4360
03:57:56,100 --> 03:57:58,401
exploring service alternatives with

4361
03:57:59,100 --> 03:58:01,100
potential partners in the eastern region

4362
03:58:01,100 --> 03:58:04,100
of nevada county in partnership with our

4363
03:58:04,100 --> 03:58:07,100
eastern region of placer county.

4364
03:58:10,100 --> 03:58:13,100
achievable housing. Again, another board

4365
03:58:13,100 --> 03:58:17,100
priority. Great credit is due here to

4366
03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:19,100
shana pervines updating the housing

4367
03:58:19,100 --> 03:58:22,601
element together with partners in the

4368
03:58:23,100 --> 03:58:25,100
state cog region which is something to be

4369
03:58:25,100 --> 03:58:29,100
proud of particularly given it is foremost

4370
03:58:29,100 --> 03:58:32,100
among board priorities. We moved

4371
03:58:33,100 --> 03:58:35,100
workforce housing preservation programs

4372
03:58:35,100 --> 03:58:38,100
and supporting partnership with supportive

4373
03:58:38,100 --> 03:58:41,100
how housing with mercy and meadow view

4374
03:58:41,100 --> 03:58:43,401
opening january 2022, hawkins village

4375
03:58:44,100 --> 03:58:47,100
april of 2022 so achievable progress

4376
03:58:47,100 --> 03:58:51,201
coming soon. Also too we continue to

4377
03:58:52,100 --> 03:58:53,100
expand programs and projects to provide

4378
03:58:53,100 --> 03:58:55,100
affordable housing through regional

4379
03:58:55,100 --> 03:58:58,100
partnerships pictured here was the recent

4380
03:58:58,100 --> 03:59:01,100
event we attended and participated in

4381
03:59:01,100 --> 03:59:04,100
partnership with truckee for 5 affordable

4382
03:59:04,100 --> 03:59:05,100
housing projects in the eastern placer

4383
03:59:05,100 --> 03:59:09,100
region two of which in placer county.

4384
03:59:09,100 --> 03:59:12,100
pursuing the deed restriction program.

4385
03:59:12,100 --> 03:59:16,100
promoting adu. Here is where I need to

4386
03:59:16,100 --> 03:59:18,100
give a shout out to the pio team. They

4387
03:59:18,100 --> 03:59:21,100
developed a booth they have taken to the

4388
03:59:21,100 --> 03:59:23,100
home shows, they hope to take to the

4389
03:59:23,100 --> 03:59:27,100
county fair next year promoting adu as

4390
03:59:27,100 --> 03:59:30,100
alternative for affordable housing. Also

4391
03:59:30,100 --> 03:59:33,601
the housing code amendment workshop. That

4392
03:59:35,100 --> 03:59:38,100
actually is now scheduled for february 8

4393
03:59:38,100 --> 03:59:41,100
your housing workshop follow-up with

4394
03:59:41,100 --> 03:59:43,100
actions to follow for board action again

4395
03:59:43,100 --> 03:59:45,100
to keep moving forward on affordable

4396
03:59:45,100 --> 03:59:47,401
housing. Public serving infrastructure

4397
03:59:51,100 --> 03:59:54,100
and amenities. Many who have heard todd

4398
03:59:54,100 --> 03:59:56,100
speak out and about in the region know he

4399
03:59:56,100 --> 03:59:59,100
speaks often about how you are moving from

4400
03:59:59,100 --> 04:00:03,100
a period of planning in placer county to

4401
04:00:03,100 --> 04:00:05,100
implementation. That implementation

4402
04:00:05,100 --> 04:00:08,100
doesn't happen without the infrastructure

4403
04:00:08,100 --> 04:00:11,100
to support growth. We have adopted parks

4404
04:00:11,100 --> 04:00:13,100
master plan, updated the capital impact

4405
04:00:13,100 --> 04:00:15,401
fee program, advancing transportation

4406
04:00:16,100 --> 04:00:19,100
funding in the basin and invest in

4407
04:00:19,100 --> 04:00:20,000
infrastructure to serve as economic and

4408
04:00:20,000 --> 04:00:23,600
land use leveraging federal fund available

4409
04:00:24,100 --> 04:00:27,601
earlier this year. Funding for [inaudible

4410
04:00:33,100 --> 04:00:35,100
comments] advance the new health and human

4411
04:00:35,100 --> 04:00:38,100
service building for early 2022 ground

4412
04:00:38,100 --> 04:00:40,100
breaking february 23 to be specific if you

4413
04:00:40,100 --> 04:00:42,100
want to mark your calendars and we also

4414
04:00:42,100 --> 04:00:45,601
through our work with pc ad-hoc

4415
04:00:47,100 --> 04:00:50,100
incorporated placer county fire facility

4416
04:00:50,100 --> 04:00:53,601
in the maintenance plan. Outcome focused

4417
04:00:58,100 --> 04:01:01,100
economic development. Here is a area

4418
04:01:01,100 --> 04:01:03,100
where the county excelled over the last

4419
04:01:03,100 --> 04:01:05,100
year. Many recall we had weekly meetings

4420
04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:08,100
at the onset of covid with all our county

4421
04:01:08,100 --> 04:01:11,100
cities county chambers as we tried to

4422
04:01:11,100 --> 04:01:14,100
navigate the beginning early days of

4423
04:01:14,100 --> 04:01:16,100
[streaming cut out]

4424
04:01:16,100 --> 04:01:19,100
crisis. Those weekly meetings biweekly

4425
04:01:21,100 --> 04:01:24,100
meetings and now monthly meetings as

4426
04:01:24,100 --> 04:01:26,100
hopefully on the path of recovery but the

4427
04:01:26,100 --> 04:01:28,100
partnerships were forged during that time

4428
04:01:28,100 --> 04:01:31,100
and continue to be built upon. Just last

4429
04:01:31,100 --> 04:01:35,100
month we finalized the csus placer center

4430
04:01:35,100 --> 04:01:37,100
master plan which is a game changing

4431
04:01:37,100 --> 04:01:40,100
development. I know from prior experience

4432
04:01:40,100 --> 04:01:43,100
that educational institutions are just an

4433
04:01:43,100 --> 04:01:46,601
incredible nucleus for growth and economic

4434
04:01:49,100 --> 04:01:52,100
development. We have another [inaudible

4435
04:01:53,100 --> 04:01:55,100
comments] we also continue to evolve our

4436
04:01:55,100 --> 04:01:56,100
business retention strategy which is a

4437
04:01:56,100 --> 04:01:59,100
work in progress right now by the economic

4438
04:01:59,100 --> 04:02:02,100
development staff. Also under outcome

4439
04:02:03,100 --> 04:02:05,100
focused economic development we are in the

4440
04:02:05,100 --> 04:02:08,100
process of assessing eastern placer tot

4441
04:02:08,100 --> 04:02:11,100
renewal in 2022. I understand for

4442
04:02:11,100 --> 04:02:14,100
election that it tent atively planned for

4443
04:02:14,100 --> 04:02:16,100
june next year to continue to extend that

4444
04:02:16,100 --> 04:02:19,100
2 percent tot for improvements in the

4445
04:02:19,100 --> 04:02:21,100
basin. Lastly, I really want to call if

4446
04:02:21,100 --> 04:02:23,100
you have not seen it in our efforts to

4447
04:02:23,100 --> 04:02:26,601
enhance placer county ag sector marketing.

4448
04:02:28,100 --> 04:02:29,100
this was the top 10 of projects the board

4449
04:02:29,100 --> 04:02:32,100
wanted to highlight in february 2021 and

4450
04:02:32,100 --> 04:02:34,100
if you haven't had a chance I encourage

4451
04:02:34,100 --> 04:02:38,100
you to go to the ag commissioner web page

4452
04:02:38,100 --> 04:02:41,100
which highlights the diversity of the crop

4453
04:02:41,100 --> 04:02:43,100
portfolio across the country. They have a

4454
04:02:43,100 --> 04:02:45,100
story map tour of placer county

4455
04:02:45,100 --> 04:02:47,100
agricultural and you can essentially

4456
04:02:47,100 --> 04:02:49,100
scroll through to view areas all across

4457
04:02:49,100 --> 04:02:52,100
the county. Crop information all across

4458
04:02:52,100 --> 04:02:54,100
the county and it really again shout out

4459
04:02:54,100 --> 04:02:57,100
to not only josh hutchinson the ag

4460
04:02:57,100 --> 04:03:00,100
commissioners but the pio team for

4461
04:03:00,100 --> 04:03:03,100
developing a really incredible story of

4462
04:03:03,100 --> 04:03:05,100
agricultural in placer county so please

4463
04:03:05,100 --> 04:03:09,201
check it out if you haven't already.

4464
04:03:10,100 --> 04:03:12,100
prudent and comprehensive financial

4465
04:03:12,100 --> 04:03:14,100
planning. As you all know, we have been

4466
04:03:14,100 --> 04:03:16,100
well served by those who have gone before

4467
04:03:16,100 --> 04:03:20,100
in placer county for the resources we

4468
04:03:20,100 --> 04:03:22,100
enjoy today. Ment those efforts continued

4469
04:03:22,100 --> 04:03:25,100
in 2021 with the refresh of the community

4470
04:03:25,100 --> 04:03:27,100
budget guide, again the leverage of the

4471
04:03:27,100 --> 04:03:29,100
federal and state covid assistance to

4472
04:03:29,100 --> 04:03:32,100
advance county needs, in 2020 all about

4473
04:03:32,100 --> 04:03:36,801
cares, in 2021 it was all about arpa and

4474
04:03:37,100 --> 04:03:40,100
putting the $77 million to work.

4475
04:03:46,100 --> 04:03:49,100
integrated financing plan something you

4476
04:03:49,100 --> 04:03:51,100
hear about and continue to hear about as

4477
04:03:51,100 --> 04:03:54,100
budgets move. We continue to explore

4478
04:03:54,100 --> 04:03:56,401
health benefit alternatives, enhance

4479
04:03:57,100 --> 04:04:00,601
funding of pension trust fund, optimizing

4480
04:04:01,100 --> 04:04:03,100
the use of cash reserves debt financing to

4481
04:04:03,100 --> 04:04:06,100
achieve county and city infrastructure

4482
04:04:06,100 --> 04:04:09,100
goals. Ongoing work of the county finance

4483
04:04:09,100 --> 04:04:12,100
committee comprised of ceo the auditor and

4484
04:04:12,100 --> 04:04:15,100
the treasurer working together. Fiscally

4485
04:04:20,100 --> 04:04:22,100
sustainable public safety service. It has

4486
04:04:22,100 --> 04:04:26,100
been a year for that. November 9 we were

4487
04:04:26,100 --> 04:04:28,100
before this board with our placer county

4488
04:04:28,100 --> 04:04:31,601
fire sustainable blue print. Actions will

4489
04:04:33,100 --> 04:04:37,100
be coming in the first 5 months of 2022 to

4490
04:04:37,100 --> 04:04:39,100
essentially execute those various actions

4491
04:04:39,100 --> 04:04:42,100
we said improve the long-term fiscal

4492
04:04:42,100 --> 04:04:44,100
health of placer county fire. We also

4493
04:04:44,100 --> 04:04:47,100
revamped probation programs. The van you

4494
04:04:47,100 --> 04:04:49,100
see here I believe was one that marshal

4495
04:04:49,100 --> 04:04:52,100
hopper might have previewed last month.

4496
04:04:52,100 --> 04:04:54,100
this is your purposed book mobile which is

4497
04:04:54,100 --> 04:04:57,100
now our mobile outreach community court

4498
04:04:57,100 --> 04:04:59,100
homeless service van which is actually

4499
04:04:59,100 --> 04:05:02,100
proven to be very successful and to

4500
04:05:02,100 --> 04:05:05,100
marshal's credit now a model that 4 other

4501
04:05:05,100 --> 04:05:06,100
counties are looking into because of the

4502
04:05:06,100 --> 04:05:08,100
efficacy and reaching out to had the hard

4503
04:05:08,100 --> 04:05:10,100
to reach populations with probation

4504
04:05:10,100 --> 04:05:13,601
services. Work is ongoing with supervisor

4505
04:05:14,100 --> 04:05:18,100
holmes and supervisor jones on the cjc

4506
04:05:18,100 --> 04:05:20,100
priorities in the context of state

4507
04:05:20,100 --> 04:05:23,100
legislation and funding challenges. Also,

4508
04:05:24,100 --> 04:05:27,100
on the public safety front shout out to

4509
04:05:27,100 --> 04:05:31,100
our district morgan guyer for efforts to

4510
04:05:31,100 --> 04:05:33,100
implement the community prosecution to

4511
04:05:33,100 --> 04:05:37,100
manage those quality of life crimes so

4512
04:05:37,100 --> 04:05:40,100
often go underserved. We established a

4513
04:05:40,100 --> 04:05:43,100
new model for competitive sustainable pay

4514
04:05:43,100 --> 04:05:46,100
for dsa and expanded the pipe line with

4515
04:05:46,100 --> 04:05:50,100
actions by the board to add intro-level

4516
04:05:50,100 --> 04:05:52,100
law enforcement positions to start the

4517
04:05:52,100 --> 04:05:55,601
career with the sheriff cadet program.

4518
04:05:57,100 --> 04:06:00,100
innovative integrated county services. I

4519
04:06:00,100 --> 04:06:04,100
thought we had quite a year in 2020, but

4520
04:06:04,100 --> 04:06:07,100
our staff only raised the bar in 2021 with

4521
04:06:07,100 --> 04:06:10,601
our continued adaptation to covid telework

4522
04:06:11,100 --> 04:06:14,100
approach while still getting the job done

4523
04:06:14,100 --> 04:06:17,100
via cloud technology and hard work of it

4524
04:06:17,100 --> 04:06:19,100
team under jared [inaudible comments]

4525
04:06:19,100 --> 04:06:22,100
expanding online service offers. In my

4526
04:06:22,100 --> 04:06:24,100
other job as interim [inaudible comments]

4527
04:06:24,100 --> 04:06:27,100
I was advised 80 percent of the activity

4528
04:06:27,100 --> 04:06:30,601
occurs online versus over counter which

4529
04:06:32,100 --> 04:06:35,100
was a shocking figure in terms of money

4530
04:06:35,100 --> 04:06:38,601
well spent and investing in technical

4531
04:06:47,100 --> 04:06:49,100
infrastructure. [inaudible comments]

4532
04:06:49,100 --> 04:06:52,100
moving our agenda process into the 21

4533
04:06:52,100 --> 04:06:55,100
century also partners with county

4534
04:06:55,100 --> 04:06:56,100
department on information and data

4535
04:06:56,100 --> 04:06:59,100
security e. Deborah curtis and it is doing

4536
04:06:59,100 --> 04:07:01,100
amazing work and continuing to test the

4537
04:07:01,100 --> 04:07:04,100
waters with our county teams on fishing

4538
04:07:04,100 --> 04:07:06,100
and other efforts so we are not in the

4539
04:07:06,100 --> 04:07:09,100
boat many other public agencies found them

4540
04:07:09,100 --> 04:07:13,100
in in terms of hacks, ransom ware and

4541
04:07:13,100 --> 04:07:16,100
other things that can make county life

4542
04:07:16,100 --> 04:07:18,100
quite unpleasant. Also on the innovation

4543
04:07:18,100 --> 04:07:21,100
front we advanced rural broadband needs.

4544
04:07:21,100 --> 04:07:23,100
in october the board took action for

4545
04:07:23,100 --> 04:07:26,100
county specific programs but as noted in

4546
04:07:26,100 --> 04:07:28,100
the morning legislative update we are also

4547
04:07:28,100 --> 04:07:32,100
partnering with r c r c golden state

4548
04:07:32,100 --> 04:07:35,100
connect jpa to try to access some of

4549
04:07:35,100 --> 04:07:38,601
that-what was the figure? $7 billion in

4550
04:07:40,100 --> 04:07:44,100
state money for broadband in the new year.

4551
04:07:44,100 --> 04:07:48,100
and the idea which you heard about in 19

4552
04:07:48,100 --> 04:07:51,601
and 20 will also be launching again. 2.0

4553
04:07:54,100 --> 04:07:57,601
under ben's leadership in 2022. Land use

4554
04:08:01,100 --> 04:08:03,401
planning and environmental stewardship.

4555
04:08:04,100 --> 04:08:07,100
these efforts are ongoing. The update on

4556
04:08:07,100 --> 04:08:09,100
the general plan our participation in the

4557
04:08:09,100 --> 04:08:12,601
water form renegotiation and next month

4558
04:08:14,100 --> 04:08:17,100
see the groundwater sustainability plan.

4559
04:08:17,100 --> 04:08:20,100
also too I'm pleased to highlight in the

4560
04:08:20,100 --> 04:08:24,201
chair year of bord service the culmination

4561
04:08:26,100 --> 04:08:29,100
of decades of placer conte conservation

4562
04:08:29,100 --> 04:08:32,100
program work with multiple partner signing

4563
04:08:32,100 --> 04:08:34,100
ceremony earlier this year. I mentioned

4564
04:08:34,100 --> 04:08:36,100
continue to advance forest health and

4565
04:08:36,100 --> 04:08:38,100
wildfire prevention and water should

4566
04:08:38,100 --> 04:08:41,100
management efforts and as I are mentioned

4567
04:08:41,100 --> 04:08:44,100
todd continued emphasis on transitioning

4568
04:08:45,100 --> 04:08:48,100
from land use plan to implementation net

4569
04:08:48,100 --> 04:08:51,601
will continue in earnest in 2022. Lastly

4570
04:08:52,100 --> 04:08:54,100
I want to highlight for you again these

4571
04:08:54,100 --> 04:08:57,100
were the 10 initiatives the board

4572
04:08:57,100 --> 04:08:59,100
highlighted back in february 2021. The

4573
04:08:59,100 --> 04:09:02,601
critical success factors are areas of

4574
04:09:06,100 --> 04:09:09,100
emphasis. Many of these are ways of doing

4575
04:09:09,100 --> 04:09:12,100
things rather then discreet projects but

4576
04:09:12,100 --> 04:09:14,100
all ongoing. As you note here with the

4577
04:09:14,100 --> 04:09:17,100
homeless action plan, with our cities

4578
04:09:17,100 --> 04:09:19,100
coming before you on january 11, but these

4579
04:09:19,100 --> 04:09:23,100
efforts as I noted are well underway. So,

4580
04:09:23,100 --> 04:09:25,100
with that, I will turn it over to ben to

4581
04:09:25,100 --> 04:09:28,100
talk about what to expect in 2022.

4582
04:09:28,100 --> 04:09:31,100
>> thank you. Good afternoon chairman and

4583
04:09:31,100 --> 04:09:34,100
supervisors. Ben mills processing program

4584
04:09:35,100 --> 04:09:38,100
administrator. As we look forward to 2022

4585
04:09:38,100 --> 04:09:41,100
the platform implementing tools will be

4586
04:09:41,100 --> 04:09:44,100
updated including a overhauled version of

4587
04:09:44,100 --> 04:09:48,100
the work plan the document that incompass

4588
04:09:48,100 --> 04:09:51,100
the board strategic plan process. It will

4589
04:09:51,100 --> 04:09:54,100
contain new information for funding and

4590
04:09:54,100 --> 04:09:56,100
future needs staffing and at a glance

4591
04:09:56,100 --> 04:09:59,100
symbols to track progress. The work plan

4592
04:09:59,100 --> 04:10:03,201
is a living document with new initiatives

4593
04:10:05,100 --> 04:10:08,100
added and completed initiatives removed.

4594
04:10:10,100 --> 04:10:11,100
other update said include a new

4595
04:10:11,100 --> 04:10:13,100
organizational monitoring report. Which

4596
04:10:13,100 --> 04:10:16,100
provide you metrix and benchmarks to

4597
04:10:16,100 --> 04:10:18,100
measure progression of the critical

4598
04:10:18,100 --> 04:10:21,100
success factors. These items will be

4599
04:10:21,100 --> 04:10:23,100
regularly updated and presented to your

4600
04:10:23,100 --> 04:10:26,100
board and also be added to a new county

4601
04:10:26,100 --> 04:10:28,100
strategic plan website under development.

4602
04:10:28,100 --> 04:10:30,100
beginning in the new year our team will

4603
04:10:30,100 --> 04:10:33,100
meet with each of our offices to discuss

4604
04:10:33,100 --> 04:10:36,100
in detail and priorities what types of

4605
04:10:36,100 --> 04:10:38,100
metrix you like to see for our office to

4606
04:10:38,100 --> 04:10:41,100
report out to your board. And to better

4607
04:10:41,100 --> 04:10:43,100
define success as far as implementation of

4608
04:10:43,100 --> 04:10:46,100
the strategic plan. So with that I look

4609
04:10:46,100 --> 04:10:48,100
forward working with you all and

4610
04:10:48,100 --> 04:10:49,100
appreciate it. Thank you.

4611
04:10:49,100 --> 04:10:51,100
>> thank you.

4612
04:10:51,100 --> 04:10:54,100
>> that concludes our progress report. If

4613
04:10:54,100 --> 04:10:57,100
there are any questions both ben and I are

4614
04:10:57,100 --> 04:10:58,100
here.

4615
04:10:58,100 --> 04:11:01,100
>> thanks to both of you for the update

4616
04:11:01,100 --> 04:11:03,100
and preview into our next steps. I have

4617
04:11:03,100 --> 04:11:06,100
to say I'm exhausted hearing all of the

4618
04:11:06,100 --> 04:11:09,100
work going on to live through the part you

4619
04:11:09,100 --> 04:11:11,100
played. It tires you out when you have

4620
04:11:11,100 --> 04:11:15,100
been around for a while. When I came here

4621
04:11:15,100 --> 04:11:17,100
the budget was a quarter of the size it is

4622
04:11:17,100 --> 04:11:20,100
currently and a lot less sophisticated and

4623
04:11:20,100 --> 04:11:23,100
there was always a appetite by the board

4624
04:11:23,100 --> 04:11:26,100
to have more measurable performance

4625
04:11:27,100 --> 04:11:29,100
standards and a place by which the board

4626
04:11:29,100 --> 04:11:31,100
can actually measure its impact on the

4627
04:11:31,100 --> 04:11:34,100
budget because so much of what we do is

4628
04:11:34,100 --> 04:11:37,100
prescribed state and federal law and it is

4629
04:11:37,100 --> 04:11:39,100
easy in any organization just to keep

4630
04:11:39,100 --> 04:11:43,100
doing things we have been doing rather

4631
04:11:43,100 --> 04:11:45,100
then shake things up and think

4632
04:11:45,100 --> 04:11:48,100
differently. But those that elected want

4633
04:11:48,100 --> 04:11:50,100
to come on board and shake things up a bit

4634
04:11:50,100 --> 04:11:53,100
so I want to thank todd particularly for

4635
04:11:53,100 --> 04:11:55,100
from the time I have been here 27 years

4636
04:11:55,100 --> 04:11:57,100
the process now by which we are going

4637
04:11:57,100 --> 04:12:00,100
forward that you brought forward with the

4638
04:12:00,100 --> 04:12:03,100
first workshop 3 or 4 years ago by far the

4639
04:12:03,100 --> 04:12:05,100
best I have seen and think we are pointed

4640
04:12:05,100 --> 04:12:08,100
in the right direction as it relates to

4641
04:12:08,100 --> 04:12:10,100
having bord members engage on the parts of

4642
04:12:10,100 --> 04:12:13,100
our expenditures that can be flexible and

4643
04:12:13,100 --> 04:12:16,100
creative. Having staff listen to that.

4644
04:12:16,100 --> 04:12:19,100
the 5 fight it out among ourselves what

4645
04:12:19,100 --> 04:12:22,100
direction gets settled abon but think we

4646
04:12:22,100 --> 04:12:25,100
are well positioned to be far more

4647
04:12:25,100 --> 04:12:28,100
entrepreneur and innovative then thing

4648
04:12:28,100 --> 04:12:32,801
last 27 years I have been around. Just a

4649
04:12:34,100 --> 04:12:36,100
shout out and thanks. Todd.

4650
04:12:36,100 --> 04:12:39,100
>> first thanks. I know you have done

4651
04:12:39,100 --> 04:12:41,100
this for a while. Trying to get more

4652
04:12:41,100 --> 04:12:44,100
quarterly update of what is going on so

4653
04:12:44,100 --> 04:12:46,100
thank you for doing this. Ben, I know you

4654
04:12:46,100 --> 04:12:48,100
will take pieces and build off of it and I

4655
04:12:48,100 --> 04:12:51,100
think as we is seen over the last 3 or 4

4656
04:12:51,100 --> 04:12:54,100
years take and put baselines in place and

4657
04:12:54,100 --> 04:12:56,100
building off those so I think we have a

4658
04:12:56,100 --> 04:12:59,100
good financial model to do and obviously

4659
04:12:59,100 --> 04:13:03,100
it comes down to projects and it is

4660
04:13:03,100 --> 04:13:05,100
interest to look back and I'm like did

4661
04:13:05,100 --> 04:13:08,100
that happen last year? That seemed 2 or 3

4662
04:13:08,100 --> 04:13:12,100
years ago. Things just fly by but think

4663
04:13:12,100 --> 04:13:15,100
we are just really positioned well not

4664
04:13:15,100 --> 04:13:18,100
only operation about financially and think

4665
04:13:18,100 --> 04:13:21,601
we have amies amazing staff. Appreciate

4666
04:13:22,100 --> 04:13:25,100
the update. Good for you all to hear.

4667
04:13:25,100 --> 04:13:27,100
what are the policy decisions you put in

4668
04:13:27,100 --> 04:13:29,100
place and how they come to materialize and

4669
04:13:29,100 --> 04:13:33,100
there is a lot gone on this year even with

4670
04:13:33,100 --> 04:13:35,100
interesting pandemic that plagued us for a

4671
04:13:35,100 --> 04:13:37,100
while.

4672
04:13:45,100 --> 04:13:48,100
>> I'll open up to the public if there is

4673
04:13:48,100 --> 04:13:49,100
any.

4674
04:13:49,100 --> 04:13:52,100
>> trudy please unmute your mic and give

4675
04:13:52,100 --> 04:13:53,100
your comments.

4676
04:13:53,100 --> 04:13:55,100
>> thank you. My name is trudy gardener,

4677
04:13:55,100 --> 04:13:56,100
can you hear me okay?

4678
04:13:56,100 --> 04:13:57,100
>> yes.

4679
04:13:57,100 --> 04:14:01,100
>> great. I was wondering, I wanted to

4680
04:14:01,100 --> 04:14:03,100
step back a little bit to talk about the

4681
04:14:03,100 --> 04:14:06,601
affordable housing just mentioned. I was

4682
04:14:08,100 --> 04:14:11,100
wondering approximately how much money

4683
04:14:12,100 --> 04:14:15,100
have you put towards achievable community

4684
04:14:15,100 --> 04:14:19,201
housing programs in the tahoe area? Say

4685
04:14:21,100 --> 04:14:23,100
since 2010.

4686
04:14:26,100 --> 04:14:29,100
>> jane, do-we can get you specific

4687
04:14:29,100 --> 04:14:31,100
information on that for sure which we

4688
04:14:31,100 --> 04:14:33,100
probably will have to do as it relates to

4689
04:14:33,100 --> 04:14:35,100
detail, but jane, I think can give you

4690
04:14:35,100 --> 04:14:37,100
some perspective.

4691
04:14:37,100 --> 04:14:40,100
>> we can absolutely follow-up. I believe

4692
04:14:40,100 --> 04:14:43,100
the request was back to 2010 which

4693
04:14:43,100 --> 04:14:45,100
predates my time with the county so I can

4694
04:14:45,100 --> 04:14:48,100
work with sean and others who are leads on

4695
04:14:48,100 --> 04:14:49,100
housing to get the number.

4696
04:14:49,100 --> 04:14:52,100
>> I will say I think [inaudible comments]

4697
04:14:52,100 --> 04:14:55,100
we acquired the dollar hill property in

4698
04:14:55,100 --> 04:14:58,100
the process of identifying the land use

4699
04:14:58,100 --> 04:15:01,100
and layout for affordable and workforce

4700
04:15:01,100 --> 04:15:04,100
housing. I think there is a lot of

4701
04:15:04,100 --> 04:15:06,100
investment made and continue to be made

4702
04:15:06,100 --> 04:15:09,100
with the approval of the tbid it is able

4703
04:15:09,100 --> 04:15:12,100
to reallocate dollars to both housing and

4704
04:15:12,100 --> 04:15:14,100
transportation. This was the board

4705
04:15:14,100 --> 04:15:17,100
directive for those what we call freed up

4706
04:15:17,100 --> 04:15:20,100
tot dollars are used for those specific

4707
04:15:20,100 --> 04:15:22,100
purposes, so we are more then happy to get

4708
04:15:22,100 --> 04:15:25,601
you more information. I know 10 years,

4709
04:15:26,100 --> 04:15:30,100
now 11 years of funding is quite a bit but

4710
04:15:30,100 --> 04:15:33,100
in the last 2 or 3 years this is a

4711
04:15:33,100 --> 04:15:35,100
concerted effort by the board.

4712
04:15:35,100 --> 04:15:36,100
>> good.

4713
04:15:36,100 --> 04:15:39,100
>> thank you. Yes, the chairman did

4714
04:15:39,100 --> 04:15:42,601
mention the measurable spending and was

4715
04:15:43,100 --> 04:15:46,100
just wondering would there be a way of

4716
04:15:46,100 --> 04:15:49,100
providing that by next month's meeting?

4717
04:15:49,100 --> 04:15:51,100
it shouldn't take long.

4718
04:15:51,100 --> 04:15:55,100
>> I don't have to do the work but will

4719
04:15:55,100 --> 04:15:56,100
say sure.

4720
04:15:56,100 --> 04:15:57,100
[laughter]

4721
04:15:57,100 --> 04:15:59,100
>> we'll do a quick update.

4722
04:15:59,100 --> 04:16:01,100
>> we are both looking for the same thing

4723
04:16:01,100 --> 04:16:03,100
mr. Chairman.

4724
04:16:04,100 --> 04:16:08,100
>> we'll get that for you for sure within

4725
04:16:08,100 --> 04:16:09,100
a month.

4726
04:16:09,100 --> 04:16:10,100
>> thanks so much.

4727
04:16:10,100 --> 04:16:14,100
>> thank you. Thank you again and with

4728
04:16:14,100 --> 04:16:18,100
that, we have to do a little cleanup on

4729
04:16:18,100 --> 04:16:21,100
another issue county counsel advices me

4730
04:16:21,100 --> 04:16:25,801
and so I'll turn it over to karen.

4731
04:16:28,100 --> 04:16:31,100
>> mr. Chair, members of the board it has

4732
04:16:31,100 --> 04:16:35,100
come to our attention that we had a-this

4733
04:16:35,100 --> 04:16:38,100
is a procedural glitch in our consents

4734
04:16:38,100 --> 04:16:41,100
calendar and as a result what I like to

4735
04:16:41,100 --> 04:16:44,100
ask the board to do is reconsider items

4736
04:16:44,100 --> 04:16:49,100
19a and 20a and I'll explain why. If I

4737
04:16:49,100 --> 04:16:50,100
can have a motion for that.

4738
04:16:50,100 --> 04:16:51,100
>> so moved.

4739
04:16:51,100 --> 04:16:52,100
>> second.

4740
04:16:52,100 --> 04:16:53,100
>> motion and second. All in favor say

4741
04:16:53,100 --> 04:16:55,401
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

4742
04:16:56,100 --> 04:17:00,100
>> great. For 19a, I would now like the

4743
04:17:00,100 --> 04:17:04,801
board to adjourn as the county and to

4744
04:17:06,100 --> 04:17:10,201
reconvene as the placer vineyard park and

4745
04:17:11,100 --> 04:17:13,100
recreation district.

4746
04:17:14,100 --> 04:17:17,601
>> adjourn as placer county board of

4747
04:17:18,100 --> 04:17:20,100
supervisors and reconvene as placer county

4748
04:17:20,100 --> 04:17:21,100
parks district?

4749
04:17:21,100 --> 04:17:24,100
>> yes, park district. As such I like to

4750
04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:28,201
request that you move to approve once

4751
04:17:29,100 --> 04:17:31,100
again the adoption for resolution to

4752
04:17:31,100 --> 04:17:34,100
approve a joint community facilities

4753
04:17:37,100 --> 04:17:38,100
district.

4754
04:17:38,100 --> 04:17:39,100
>> move approval.

4755
04:17:39,100 --> 04:17:40,100
>> second.

4756
04:17:40,100 --> 04:17:41,100
>> motion and second. All in favor say

4757
04:17:41,100 --> 04:17:43,100
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

4758
04:17:43,100 --> 04:17:46,100
>> like you to adjourn as the park and rec

4759
04:17:46,100 --> 04:17:48,100
district and reconvene as the bord.

4760
04:17:48,100 --> 04:17:51,100
>> placer county parks district is

4761
04:17:53,100 --> 04:17:56,100
reconvening as the placer county board of

4762
04:17:56,100 --> 04:17:57,100
supervisors.

4763
04:17:57,100 --> 04:18:00,100
>> to take up consideration of 20a as the

4764
04:18:00,100 --> 04:18:03,100
placer county board of supervisor,

4765
04:18:03,100 --> 04:18:04,100
assessment work flow software.

4766
04:18:04,100 --> 04:18:05,100
>> so moved.

4767
04:18:05,100 --> 04:18:06,100
>> second.

4768
04:18:06,100 --> 04:18:07,100
>> motion and second. All in favor say

4769
04:18:07,100 --> 04:18:09,100
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

4770
04:18:09,100 --> 04:18:10,100
>> thank you very much.

4771
04:18:10,100 --> 04:18:14,100
>> thank you. And now we will take up our

4772
04:18:14,100 --> 04:18:17,100
1230 timed item which is short-term rental

4773
04:18:17,100 --> 04:18:20,100
ordinance update so this is a update that

4774
04:18:20,100 --> 04:18:24,100
I want to say from the beginning that

4775
04:18:24,100 --> 04:18:26,100
staff definitely is looking for

4776
04:18:26,100 --> 04:18:28,100
specificity and direction from the board

4777
04:18:28,100 --> 04:18:30,100
in terms of the comments and hopefully

4778
04:18:30,100 --> 04:18:32,100
consensus so if we can keep that in mind I

4779
04:18:32,100 --> 04:18:34,100
think it will be helpful as we move

4780
04:18:34,100 --> 04:18:35,100
forward. Stephanie.

4781
04:18:35,100 --> 04:18:37,100
>> good afternoon stephanie holloway with

4782
04:18:37,100 --> 04:18:40,100
the tahoe [inaudible comments] chairman

4783
04:18:40,100 --> 04:18:43,100
weygandt members of the board mr. Leopold

4784
04:18:43,100 --> 04:18:47,100
mrs. Schwab. I lost my cohort. She will

4785
04:18:47,100 --> 04:18:49,100
be back. Here this afternoon to really

4786
04:18:49,100 --> 04:18:52,601
kick off a presentation on short-term

4787
04:18:53,100 --> 04:18:55,100
rentals and convene workshop with your

4788
04:18:55,100 --> 04:18:57,100
board to seek further direction so I'm

4789
04:18:57,100 --> 04:19:01,100
joined by a diverse team here-not here but

4790
04:19:01,100 --> 04:19:05,201
will be here really working diligently for

4791
04:19:06,100 --> 04:19:09,100
the options around short-term rentals and

4792
04:19:09,100 --> 04:19:10,100
really bringing that before your board for

4793
04:19:10,100 --> 04:19:13,100
consideration hopefully early in january

4794
04:19:14,100 --> 04:19:18,201
before the end of had moratorium. Crystal

4795
04:19:19,100 --> 04:19:22,100
jacobson deputy director and aaron

4796
04:19:23,100 --> 04:19:25,100
[inaudible comments] with bay area

4797
04:19:25,100 --> 04:19:28,100
economics and going to copresent the item.

4798
04:19:28,100 --> 04:19:32,100
aaron is on zoom with us this afternoon.

4799
04:19:32,100 --> 04:19:34,100
also I didn't to mention nick martin in

4800
04:19:34,100 --> 04:19:38,201
the and emily setzer are also available

4801
04:19:40,100 --> 04:19:42,100
via zoom for technical questions that may

4802
04:19:42,100 --> 04:19:47,100
come up. So, I am going to advance our

4803
04:19:47,100 --> 04:19:50,100
slide here. Okay. So, let me start with

4804
04:19:50,100 --> 04:19:53,100
brief history around the short-term rental

4805
04:19:53,100 --> 04:19:54,100
ordinance. Your board is familiar with

4806
04:19:54,100 --> 04:19:56,100
this but will go back through. The

4807
04:19:56,100 --> 04:19:58,100
ordinance was first considered by your

4808
04:19:58,100 --> 04:20:02,801
board at the end of 2019, and really to

4809
04:20:03,100 --> 04:20:05,100
address some nuisance and growing safety

4810
04:20:05,100 --> 04:20:07,100
concerns within the community. The

4811
04:20:07,100 --> 04:20:09,401
adoption of article 19.42 january 2022

4812
04:20:11,100 --> 04:20:14,100
included a list of operational standards

4813
04:20:14,100 --> 04:20:17,100
focused on noise, trash, fire and building

4814
04:20:17,100 --> 04:20:20,100
code compliance as well as parking

4815
04:20:20,100 --> 04:20:22,100
concerns brought up tie buy the community.

4816
04:20:22,100 --> 04:20:24,100
your board recently adopted urgency

4817
04:20:24,100 --> 04:20:26,100
ordinance and extension in july and august

4818
04:20:26,100 --> 04:20:28,100
of the past summer which established a

4819
04:20:28,100 --> 04:20:31,100
moratorium for the increase on the

4820
04:20:31,100 --> 04:20:34,100
increase of new short-term rentals within

4821
04:20:34,100 --> 04:20:37,601
the community until march 31, 2022 so the

4822
04:20:39,100 --> 04:20:41,100
purpose is to create a pause and give

4823
04:20:41,100 --> 04:20:43,100
staff time to really dig if had to some of

4824
04:20:43,100 --> 04:20:47,201
the concerns related to increase usage of

4825
04:20:48,100 --> 04:20:51,601
second homes and around the short-term

4826
04:20:52,100 --> 04:20:55,100
rentals and think concern the effects of

4827
04:20:55,100 --> 04:20:57,100
the demand for these homes on workforce

4828
04:20:57,100 --> 04:20:59,100
housing specifically availability and the

4829
04:20:59,100 --> 04:21:02,601
potential for price escalation. So, just

4830
04:21:05,100 --> 04:21:07,100
a timeline here from the adoption of the

4831
04:21:07,100 --> 04:21:10,100
urgency ordinance back in july and august.

4832
04:21:10,100 --> 04:21:12,100
staff quickly appreciated the very short

4833
04:21:12,100 --> 04:21:15,100
window of time we had to engage the

4834
04:21:15,100 --> 04:21:17,100
community to really dig in on a number of

4835
04:21:17,100 --> 04:21:20,100
issues around housing to crunch some the

4836
04:21:20,100 --> 04:21:23,100
data that we were still working on

4837
04:21:23,100 --> 04:21:26,100
acquiring and really kind of come up with

4838
04:21:26,100 --> 04:21:29,100
some options to bring forward to your

4839
04:21:29,100 --> 04:21:32,100
board. It has been about 3 months since

4840
04:21:32,100 --> 04:21:35,100
then. I will say we really set to work

4841
04:21:35,100 --> 04:21:37,100
initially by listening doing large

4842
04:21:37,100 --> 04:21:40,100
stakeholder meetings as well as a number

4843
04:21:40,100 --> 04:21:42,100
of different focused stakeholder

4844
04:21:42,100 --> 04:21:45,100
discussions to really dig in and

4845
04:21:45,100 --> 04:21:46,100
understand the big picture, understand

4846
04:21:46,100 --> 04:21:49,601
every voice. The issue of short-term

4847
04:21:50,100 --> 04:21:53,100
rental touches so many different community

4848
04:21:53,100 --> 04:21:55,100
members in different ways so we wanted to

4849
04:21:55,100 --> 04:21:57,100
make sure we understand the full depth of

4850
04:21:57,100 --> 04:22:00,100
the issue. We are here today to really

4851
04:22:00,100 --> 04:22:02,100
give you a update on the progress. We

4852
04:22:02,100 --> 04:22:05,100
promised we would do that this summer so

4853
04:22:05,100 --> 04:22:06,100
here before the end of the year to do that

4854
04:22:06,100 --> 04:22:08,100
and also engage with the board on

4855
04:22:08,100 --> 04:22:11,100
potential options around str restrictions.

4856
04:22:16,100 --> 04:22:18,100
so just to talk briefly on the outreach

4857
04:22:18,100 --> 04:22:21,100
efforts, county staff lead two larger

4858
04:22:21,100 --> 04:22:24,601
stakeholder workshops really like I said

4859
04:22:25,100 --> 04:22:27,100
kind of coming together with a multitude

4860
04:22:27,100 --> 04:22:30,100
of voices really seeking some community

4861
04:22:30,100 --> 04:22:33,100
lead solutions around str. From that

4862
04:22:33,100 --> 04:22:37,100
initial brainstorming we did dig in on a

4863
04:22:37,100 --> 04:22:40,100
number of focus groups having deeper

4864
04:22:40,100 --> 04:22:43,100
discussions and identifying more detailed

4865
04:22:43,100 --> 04:22:46,100
concerns. So, overall we held 12

4866
04:22:47,100 --> 04:22:49,401
stakeholder meetings targeted discussions

4867
04:22:50,100 --> 04:22:53,100
over the last 12 months. And then

4868
04:22:53,100 --> 04:22:55,100
additionally just to mention stakeholder

4869
04:22:55,100 --> 04:22:58,100
outreach really once we felt we had

4870
04:22:58,100 --> 04:23:01,100
refined the issues and are formulated

4871
04:23:01,100 --> 04:23:04,100
options for the community to consider, we

4872
04:23:04,100 --> 04:23:08,100
did launch a larger online survey, which

4873
04:23:08,100 --> 04:23:11,601
resulted in over 1500 direct responses so

4874
04:23:12,100 --> 04:23:14,100
we felt that was a pretty good

4875
04:23:14,100 --> 04:23:17,100
representation of the community. I will

4876
04:23:17,100 --> 04:23:21,201
say that the survey was provided through

4877
04:23:22,100 --> 04:23:25,100
three different delivery method. We

4878
04:23:25,100 --> 04:23:28,100
contracted with a contractor to do a

4879
04:23:28,100 --> 04:23:31,100
initial blast to people within the

4880
04:23:31,100 --> 04:23:34,100
community that were sort of signed up to

4881
04:23:34,100 --> 04:23:37,100
give feedback around community issues. We

4882
04:23:37,100 --> 04:23:39,100
also specifically sent that survey out

4883
04:23:39,100 --> 04:23:43,100
through our pio office to our str owners

4884
04:23:43,100 --> 04:23:46,100
and operates and then thirdly just a

4885
04:23:46,100 --> 04:23:48,100
general public getting on next door to get

4886
04:23:48,100 --> 04:23:52,100
it out to the greater community. We

4887
04:23:52,100 --> 04:23:55,100
really felt this method provided us with

4888
04:23:55,100 --> 04:23:57,100
some understanding of where the potential

4889
04:23:57,100 --> 04:23:59,100
biases may be within different groups

4890
04:23:59,100 --> 04:24:02,100
within the issue. So, I'll mention there

4891
04:24:02,100 --> 04:24:04,100
is a detail on that survey in the results

4892
04:24:04,100 --> 04:24:07,100
are contained in your packet and I'll

4893
04:24:07,100 --> 04:24:09,100
highlight I think of importance here

4894
04:24:09,100 --> 04:24:10,100
really is that there is a

4895
04:24:10,100 --> 04:24:13,100
significant-maybe not significant but a

4896
04:24:14,100 --> 04:24:16,100
variation in the response between the

4897
04:24:16,100 --> 04:24:18,100
flash vote and open survey and then also

4898
04:24:18,100 --> 04:24:20,100
the survey that we sent out specifically

4899
04:24:20,100 --> 04:24:24,201
to our str owners and operators. So,

4900
04:24:26,100 --> 04:24:30,100
boiling it down the issues we heard from

4901
04:24:30,100 --> 04:24:32,100
the community outreach, really around

4902
04:24:32,100 --> 04:24:34,100
workforce housing I think your board heard

4903
04:24:34,100 --> 04:24:37,100
those concerns previously this summer.

4904
04:24:38,100 --> 04:24:39,100
neighborhood character around nuisance

4905
04:24:39,100 --> 04:24:42,601
issues, trash, noise, parking. Fire life

4906
04:24:43,100 --> 04:24:46,100
safety, we did talk to the fire districts

4907
04:24:46,100 --> 04:24:48,100
specifically. Them having concerns about

4908
04:24:48,100 --> 04:24:51,100
just consistency of inspections, making

4909
04:24:53,100 --> 04:24:55,100
sure the units were inspected before the

4910
04:24:55,100 --> 04:24:59,201
permit was issued. Also heard from them

4911
04:25:00,100 --> 04:25:03,100
just overall desire for potentially

4912
04:25:03,100 --> 04:25:06,100
folding into defensible space inspection

4913
04:25:07,100 --> 04:25:09,100
so a number different issues we talked to

4914
04:25:09,100 --> 04:25:12,100
the fire districts about. Also of note

4915
04:25:12,100 --> 04:25:15,100
just really the connection with the

4916
04:25:15,100 --> 04:25:19,201
potential for impact on our hotel economy.

4917
04:25:20,100 --> 04:25:21,100
I think the discussion here is really just

4918
04:25:21,100 --> 04:25:25,201
the equity between hotels and second homes

4919
04:25:26,100 --> 04:25:29,100
used as tourist accommodation, so that

4920
04:25:29,100 --> 04:25:31,100
conversation seemed to boil up to the

4921
04:25:31,100 --> 04:25:34,100
surface as well over and over. Lastly,

4922
04:25:34,100 --> 04:25:38,201
I'll mention staff has been really focused

4923
04:25:39,100 --> 04:25:41,100
on the effectiveness of the ordinance as

4924
04:25:41,100 --> 04:25:45,801
far as enforcement and making sure that we

4925
04:25:46,100 --> 04:25:49,100
are being purposeful and removing any

4926
04:25:49,100 --> 04:25:51,100
barriers for implementation of the

4927
04:25:51,100 --> 04:25:53,100
ordinance so you will see that in

4928
04:25:53,100 --> 04:25:56,100
crystal's presentation. Just to mention

4929
04:25:56,100 --> 04:25:58,100
our vision I think like I said we did a

4930
04:25:58,100 --> 04:26:01,100
lot of listening tried to boil down these

4931
04:26:01,100 --> 04:26:03,100
issues and come up with a vision to move

4932
04:26:03,100 --> 04:26:06,100
forward striving for a balance of housing

4933
04:26:06,100 --> 04:26:08,100
between housing in the residential

4934
04:26:08,100 --> 04:26:11,601
community potentially but also our tourist

4935
04:26:12,100 --> 04:26:14,100
housing accommodation within the town

4936
04:26:14,100 --> 04:26:17,100
centers creating a balance there. And

4937
04:26:17,100 --> 04:26:19,100
then also creating a balance and

4938
04:26:19,100 --> 04:26:22,100
supporting our economy in eastern placer

4939
04:26:22,100 --> 04:26:25,100
which is predominantly tourism allowing

4940
04:26:26,100 --> 04:26:28,100
workforce housing and incent vising

4941
04:26:28,100 --> 04:26:31,100
workforce housing. Lastly achieving code

4942
04:26:31,100 --> 04:26:32,100
compliance and maintaining our community

4943
04:26:32,100 --> 04:26:35,100
character so I think this boils it down to

4944
04:26:35,100 --> 04:26:38,100
the three big issues that seem to come out

4945
04:26:38,100 --> 04:26:42,201
of all the engagement. Our team did

4946
04:26:43,100 --> 04:26:46,100
perform additional research. We mentioned

4947
04:26:46,100 --> 04:26:48,100
this to you last time over the summer that

4948
04:26:48,100 --> 04:26:51,100
we started research on other jurisdictions

4949
04:26:51,100 --> 04:26:54,100
and really what they were doing to sort of

4950
04:26:54,100 --> 04:26:55,100
solve some of the challenges they were

4951
04:26:55,100 --> 04:26:58,100
having around destination stewardship and

4952
04:26:59,100 --> 04:27:01,100
tourist mitigation on the screen here is

4953
04:27:01,100 --> 04:27:04,100
just a few of those common actions that

4954
04:27:04,100 --> 04:27:06,100
other areas are taking to address these

4955
04:27:06,100 --> 04:27:09,601
concerns. There is a more detailed

4956
04:27:10,100 --> 04:27:12,100
breakdown in attachment d in your packet.

4957
04:27:12,100 --> 04:27:15,100
so, from this we took clues of some

4958
04:27:15,100 --> 04:27:18,100
practices that we might think are valuable

4959
04:27:18,100 --> 04:27:21,100
and viable within our communities in

4960
04:27:21,100 --> 04:27:24,100
eastern placer and kind of started vetting

4961
04:27:24,100 --> 04:27:27,100
those with the community and stakeholders.

4962
04:27:27,100 --> 04:27:30,601
so we did review approximately 20s

4963
04:27:31,100 --> 04:27:34,100
different jurisdictions in the local

4964
04:27:34,100 --> 04:27:35,100
areas. There are a number of counties

4965
04:27:35,100 --> 04:27:38,100
that have taken action in the area around

4966
04:27:38,100 --> 04:27:41,100
str and targeting other tourist economy

4967
04:27:41,100 --> 04:27:44,100
mountain towns to really look for common

4968
04:27:44,100 --> 04:27:47,100
practices. So, these areas included

4969
04:27:47,100 --> 04:27:50,601
summit county, avon, steam boat springs,

4970
04:27:51,100 --> 04:27:54,601
crest butte in colorado and jackson

4971
04:27:57,100 --> 04:28:01,801
wyoming and moab utah. I will sort of

4972
04:28:03,100 --> 04:28:05,100
highlight the prevalence and you will see

4973
04:28:05,100 --> 04:28:09,801
that in the packet of options related to

4974
04:28:13,100 --> 04:28:15,100
zoning. It is not something we are

4975
04:28:15,100 --> 04:28:17,100
bringing forward today and it is mostly

4976
04:28:17,100 --> 04:28:20,100
because our area of eastern placer is

4977
04:28:20,100 --> 04:28:23,100
really pretty diverse. The zoning

4978
04:28:23,100 --> 04:28:27,100
district and the zoning area is very

4979
04:28:27,100 --> 04:28:29,100
complex, especially when we start

4980
04:28:29,100 --> 04:28:31,100
considering the tahoe basin and the

4981
04:28:31,100 --> 04:28:34,100
overlay of the zone districts from t r pa,

4982
04:28:34,100 --> 04:28:37,100
so you will see that in the packet. It is

4983
04:28:37,100 --> 04:28:40,100
very common around cities opposed to

4984
04:28:40,100 --> 04:28:42,100
counties that have a different

4985
04:28:42,100 --> 04:28:45,100
jurisdictional structure. I'll note the

4986
04:28:47,100 --> 04:28:49,401
uniqueness and inconsistency of

4987
04:28:50,100 --> 04:28:52,100
application of some of these options

4988
04:28:52,100 --> 04:28:55,100
within different areas. I think we were

4989
04:28:55,100 --> 04:28:57,100
really looking for a tool box of best

4990
04:28:57,100 --> 04:29:00,100
practices. I think we found there are a

4991
04:29:00,100 --> 04:29:02,100
lot of practices, but they are applied

4992
04:29:02,100 --> 04:29:05,100
very uniquely for different jurisdictions

4993
04:29:05,100 --> 04:29:07,100
and so I think our charge was to find the

4994
04:29:07,100 --> 04:29:10,100
right tool box and right options for

4995
04:29:10,100 --> 04:29:12,100
placer that we wanted to bring forward for

4996
04:29:12,100 --> 04:29:16,801
you today. Crystal will dive into this a

4997
04:29:17,100 --> 04:29:19,100
little deeper but this is a preview of

4998
04:29:19,100 --> 04:29:23,100
options that we vetted. So before she

4999
04:29:23,100 --> 04:29:26,100
does that I wanted to introduce aaron new

5000
04:29:26,100 --> 04:29:30,100
sane again from bay area urban economics.

5001
04:29:30,100 --> 04:29:33,100
aaron was instrumental in digging in on

5002
04:29:33,100 --> 04:29:37,100
the tot and str data he'll walk through

5003
04:29:37,100 --> 04:29:41,201
and coming up with initial findings around

5004
04:29:42,100 --> 04:29:44,100
the economic questions raised earlier this

5005
04:29:44,100 --> 04:29:47,100
year. So, I'll mention his full report is

5006
04:29:47,100 --> 04:29:51,100
available as attachment b in your packet

5007
04:29:51,100 --> 04:29:56,100
and just sort of to report out again there

5008
04:29:56,100 --> 04:29:58,100
is a very short timeline we asked aaron to

5009
04:29:58,100 --> 04:30:00,100
pull this information together and to have

5010
04:30:00,100 --> 04:30:03,100
this packet ready for you, so it was

5011
04:30:03,100 --> 04:30:06,100
available online on friday for your

5012
04:30:06,100 --> 04:30:08,100
consumption as well as the public. So,

5013
04:30:08,100 --> 04:30:12,801
with that I'll hand it over to aaron.

5014
04:30:19,100 --> 04:30:22,100
>> we had the privilege working with the

5015
04:30:22,100 --> 04:30:25,100
county to pull together information a

5016
04:30:25,100 --> 04:30:28,100
relatively short-term prime with the

5017
04:30:28,100 --> 04:30:30,100
associations between short-term rentals

5018
04:30:30,100 --> 04:30:32,100
and the availability and pricing of

5019
04:30:32,100 --> 04:30:35,100
long-term housing and then also dug into

5020
04:30:35,100 --> 04:30:39,801
some of the available data on the str

5021
04:30:41,100 --> 04:30:44,601
market in eastern placer county specific.

5022
04:30:45,100 --> 04:30:47,100
in terms of the data we looked at specific

5023
04:30:47,100 --> 04:30:50,100
to eastern placer county, the primary data

5024
04:30:50,100 --> 04:30:54,100
source we ended up relying was county

5025
04:30:54,100 --> 04:30:57,100
inventory of tot certificates that is any

5026
04:30:57,100 --> 04:30:58,100
property that collects and remits

5027
04:30:58,100 --> 04:31:01,100
transient occupancy tax as well as the

5028
04:31:01,100 --> 04:31:04,100
county inventory of permitted str. Looked

5029
04:31:04,100 --> 04:31:08,201
at data from a couple private data

5030
04:31:11,100 --> 04:31:13,100
vendors. The data coverage was pretty

5031
04:31:13,100 --> 04:31:15,100
subpar so did not rely on the data

5032
04:31:15,100 --> 04:31:17,100
particularly heavily. We also looked at

5033
04:31:17,100 --> 04:31:20,100
census data with regard to the housing

5034
04:31:20,100 --> 04:31:23,100
inventory and the placer county assessor

5035
04:31:23,100 --> 04:31:26,100
parcel data with regard to home owner

5036
04:31:26,100 --> 04:31:30,201
exemption. The first main phase of the

5037
04:31:31,100 --> 04:31:35,100
research was to do a review of the

5038
04:31:35,100 --> 04:31:37,100
contemporary academic literature with

5039
04:31:37,100 --> 04:31:40,100
regard to relationship with regard to str

5040
04:31:40,100 --> 04:31:42,100
and availability of pricing of long-term

5041
04:31:42,100 --> 04:31:45,100
housing. We also looked at studies and

5042
04:31:45,100 --> 04:31:48,100
specifically spoke to relationship between

5043
04:31:48,100 --> 04:31:50,100
str and hotel viability in particular

5044
04:31:50,100 --> 04:31:53,601
looking at occupancy, average daily rates

5045
04:31:54,100 --> 04:31:56,100
and revenue per available room night. We

5046
04:31:56,100 --> 04:31:59,100
looked at total of about 23 articles about

5047
04:31:59,100 --> 04:32:01,100
16 of those specifically spoke to the

5048
04:32:01,100 --> 04:32:04,100
relationship between str and housing. 4

5049
04:32:04,100 --> 04:32:07,601
looked at relationship between str and

5050
04:32:08,100 --> 04:32:11,100
hotels and had a handsful of others more

5051
04:32:11,100 --> 04:32:15,201
focused on the regulatory responses to str

5052
04:32:18,100 --> 04:32:20,100
markets. The scope of the current

5053
04:32:20,100 --> 04:32:23,100
academic literature mostly focus on large

5054
04:32:23,100 --> 04:32:26,100
urban tourist destinations. Places like

5055
04:32:26,100 --> 04:32:29,100
new york, san francisco, barcelona,

5056
04:32:29,100 --> 04:32:33,801
london. We found study that -looked at a

5057
04:32:36,100 --> 04:32:39,100
variety of communities across oregon

5058
04:32:40,100 --> 04:32:43,100
including larger and smaller rural

5059
04:32:43,100 --> 04:32:46,601
destinations. So, with those caveats in

5060
04:32:49,100 --> 04:32:52,601
mind, the literature on str consistently

5061
04:32:53,100 --> 04:32:56,100
found a significant relationship between

5062
04:32:57,100 --> 04:33:00,100
the prevalence of str in a certain

5063
04:33:00,100 --> 04:33:01,100
residential market and the availability

5064
04:33:01,100 --> 04:33:04,100
and pricing of long-term housing.

5065
04:33:04,100 --> 04:33:08,100
generally speaking the effect seem to be

5066
04:33:08,100 --> 04:33:10,100
stronger between str and for sale housing

5067
04:33:10,100 --> 04:33:13,601
compared to pricing of rental housing.

5068
04:33:15,100 --> 04:33:19,201
the logic is str effect the pricing

5069
04:33:20,100 --> 04:33:22,100
rational for for sale housing where they

5070
04:33:22,100 --> 04:33:25,100
effect pricing for rental housing more in

5071
04:33:25,100 --> 04:33:27,100
terms of reduction in the available

5072
04:33:27,100 --> 04:33:30,100
supply. The literature found that in

5073
04:33:30,100 --> 04:33:33,100
general str do incentivize conversion of

5074
04:33:33,100 --> 04:33:36,100
long-term housing and a number of studies

5075
04:33:36,100 --> 04:33:38,401
specifically identified increase trend

5076
04:33:39,100 --> 04:33:42,601
toward investor activity. That is a

5077
04:33:43,100 --> 04:33:46,100
effecting housing pricing. In terms of

5078
04:33:46,100 --> 04:33:49,100
the document relationship between the str

5079
04:33:49,100 --> 04:33:52,100
and hotel market, it is much less well

5080
04:33:52,100 --> 04:33:54,100
studied and the results are somewhat

5081
04:33:54,100 --> 04:33:56,100
inconsistent, however there is a handful

5082
04:33:56,100 --> 04:33:59,100
of studies that did document relationships

5083
04:33:59,100 --> 04:34:03,100
in particular on hotel pricing and result

5084
04:34:03,100 --> 04:34:07,201
higher str in the market correlating to

5085
04:34:08,100 --> 04:34:10,100
less aggressive pricing for hotel

5086
04:34:10,100 --> 04:34:13,100
properties. As a general indication those

5087
04:34:13,100 --> 04:34:17,201
effects may effect mid-tier and lower tier

5088
04:34:18,100 --> 04:34:20,100
properties more compared to higher tier

5089
04:34:20,100 --> 04:34:23,100
properties. The research seems to suggest

5090
04:34:23,100 --> 04:34:27,100
hotels across the spectrum are more or

5091
04:34:27,100 --> 04:34:30,100
less equally impacted. Studies also

5092
04:34:31,100 --> 04:34:33,100
specifically noted that while some of the

5093
04:34:33,100 --> 04:34:36,601
coefficients of impact and magnitude of

5094
04:34:37,100 --> 04:34:41,100
str 1 percent increase in str may appear

5095
04:34:41,100 --> 04:34:44,100
relatively modest the rapid growth in the

5096
04:34:44,100 --> 04:34:47,100
str market can have a significant

5097
04:34:47,100 --> 04:34:49,100
cumulative affect on the markets. Next

5098
04:34:49,100 --> 04:34:53,801
slide. So, I want to change gears and

5099
04:34:54,100 --> 04:34:56,100
talk about the

5100
04:34:56,100 --> 04:34:58,100
[audio cut out]

5101
04:34:58,100 --> 04:35:01,100
according to data provided by the county

5102
04:35:01,100 --> 04:35:04,601
there are about 15600 total housing units

5103
04:35:06,100 --> 04:35:08,100
in the eastern county. Of those about 12

5104
04:35:08,100 --> 04:35:11,601
percent are owner occupied but 9 percent

5105
04:35:12,100 --> 04:35:15,100
are estimated to be long-term rented with

5106
04:35:15,100 --> 04:35:18,601
just under 80 percent being second homes.

5107
04:35:19,100 --> 04:35:23,801
based on the tot certificate data we have,

5108
04:35:24,100 --> 04:35:28,100
it appears as of the 2020-2021 fiscal year

5109
04:35:28,100 --> 04:35:31,100
there are about 4420 residential units

5110
04:35:31,100 --> 04:35:34,601
that were submitting tot. That represents

5111
04:35:35,100 --> 04:35:38,100
about 28 percent of the total housing

5112
04:35:38,100 --> 04:35:40,401
stock. There were additional 1445

5113
04:35:41,100 --> 04:35:44,100
residential unit that were registered,

5114
04:35:45,100 --> 04:35:47,100
they had tot certificates about not

5115
04:35:47,100 --> 04:35:49,100
actively generated tot to the county.

5116
04:35:49,100 --> 04:35:51,100
that represents 9 percent of the housing

5117
04:35:51,100 --> 04:35:54,100
stock. To be more specific, we were

5118
04:35:54,100 --> 04:35:57,100
looking at single family units,

5119
04:36:00,100 --> 04:36:02,100
condominium, townhomes, plex units, mobile

5120
04:36:02,100 --> 04:36:03,100
homes and apartments as being

5121
04:36:03,100 --> 04:36:06,100
representative of short-term rentals. We

5122
04:36:06,100 --> 04:36:09,100
are categorizing hotel motel property bed

5123
04:36:09,100 --> 04:36:12,100
and breakfast condo hotel and time share

5124
04:36:12,100 --> 04:36:14,100
property as part of the long-term lodging

5125
04:36:14,100 --> 04:36:17,100
market so those units are not included in

5126
04:36:17,100 --> 04:36:21,201
the totals. Next slide. So, this figure

5127
04:36:25,100 --> 04:36:27,100
illustrates growth in a number of active

5128
04:36:27,100 --> 04:36:30,100
revenue generated tot certificates by unit

5129
04:36:30,100 --> 04:36:33,100
type. So, the orange line essentially

5130
04:36:33,100 --> 04:36:37,801
shows the inventory of hotel motel b & b

5131
04:36:38,100 --> 04:36:41,100
over time shows that inventory being

5132
04:36:41,100 --> 04:36:43,100
relatively stable. The blue line shows

5133
04:36:43,100 --> 04:36:46,100
residential units, again single family,

5134
04:36:46,100 --> 04:36:49,601
plex, condo, etcetera. And it shows

5135
04:36:50,100 --> 04:36:52,100
fairly consistent growth over time among

5136
04:36:52,100 --> 04:36:55,601
the short-term rental market. Next. Here

5137
04:36:59,100 --> 04:37:02,100
we are layering in an additional line in

5138
04:37:02,100 --> 04:37:04,100
gray that specifically shows the inventory

5139
04:37:04,100 --> 04:37:07,100
of condo hotel and time sharing units and

5140
04:37:07,100 --> 04:37:10,601
we see a significant increase and

5141
04:37:12,100 --> 04:37:15,601
volatility. We are still working to

5142
04:37:17,100 --> 04:37:20,100
identify [inaudible comments] next slide.

5143
04:37:22,100 --> 04:37:24,100
here we show the same data but in a

5144
04:37:24,100 --> 04:37:27,100
slightly different format and you see the

5145
04:37:27,100 --> 04:37:30,100
cumulative inventory of overnight visitor

5146
04:37:31,100 --> 04:37:34,601
accommodations. You can see the single

5147
04:37:36,100 --> 04:37:38,100
family plex and apartment inventory of

5148
04:37:38,100 --> 04:37:41,601
short-term rentals along the bottom in

5149
04:37:45,100 --> 04:37:48,601
increase. Gradual increase in condo unit.

5150
04:37:49,100 --> 04:37:52,100
increase in hotel motel properties and

5151
04:37:52,100 --> 04:37:55,100
significant increase but volatility in the

5152
04:37:55,100 --> 04:37:59,201
condo hotel and time share. Next slide.

5153
04:38:02,100 --> 04:38:05,100
this data shows the total number of str in

5154
04:38:05,100 --> 04:38:08,100
a couple different buckets as a percentage

5155
04:38:08,100 --> 04:38:11,100
of the housing stock. The most recent

5156
04:38:11,100 --> 04:38:14,100
numbers there were about 2510 total

5157
04:38:14,100 --> 04:38:16,100
permitted str in eastern placer county

5158
04:38:16,100 --> 04:38:18,100
that represented about 16 percent of the

5159
04:38:18,100 --> 04:38:20,100
total housing stock. If you look more

5160
04:38:20,100 --> 04:38:23,601
broadly include unit excluded from the

5161
04:38:26,100 --> 04:38:28,100
current permit regulations that total

5162
04:38:28,100 --> 04:38:31,100
increases to just over 4400 units total

5163
04:38:31,100 --> 04:38:33,100
which is about 28 percent of the total

5164
04:38:33,100 --> 04:38:37,801
housing stock. If you also layer in other

5165
04:38:39,100 --> 04:38:41,100
tot certificates associated with

5166
04:38:41,100 --> 04:38:44,100
residential units not generating revenue

5167
04:38:44,100 --> 04:38:47,100
but have the potential to do so, that

5168
04:38:47,100 --> 04:38:48,100
percentage increases to about 30 percent

5169
04:38:48,100 --> 04:38:51,100
the total housing stock that could

5170
04:38:51,100 --> 04:38:53,401
potentially engage short-term rental

5171
04:38:55,100 --> 04:38:58,601
activity. This shows a slightly different

5172
04:38:59,100 --> 04:39:02,100
percentage looking at just single family

5173
04:39:02,100 --> 04:39:05,601
inventory both within the str inventory

5174
04:39:08,100 --> 04:39:11,601
and total housing stock. Just under 2600

5175
04:39:14,100 --> 04:39:17,100
units generating revenue that represented

5176
04:39:17,100 --> 04:39:19,100
about 21 percent of the total single

5177
04:39:19,100 --> 04:39:23,801
family inventory. If you are in the unit

5178
04:39:24,100 --> 04:39:27,100
not generating revenue about the tot

5179
04:39:27,100 --> 04:39:30,100
certificate it increased it 3800 or 31

5180
04:39:32,100 --> 04:39:35,601
percent of inventory. This figure shows

5181
04:39:37,100 --> 04:39:40,100
the distribution of active revenue

5182
04:39:41,100 --> 04:39:44,100
generating tot certificates that were

5183
04:39:44,100 --> 04:39:46,100
joined with the county parcel inventory

5184
04:39:46,100 --> 04:39:50,100
and the reason we did that was to identify

5185
04:39:50,100 --> 04:39:53,100
which revenue generating str were

5186
04:39:54,100 --> 04:39:56,100
associated with properties that had

5187
04:39:56,100 --> 04:39:59,100
claimed the state and federal home owner

5188
04:39:59,100 --> 04:40:02,100
exemption on the taxes and we are using

5189
04:40:02,100 --> 04:40:04,100
that essentially as the proxy for

5190
04:40:04,100 --> 04:40:07,100
full-time occupancy. The data generally

5191
04:40:08,100 --> 04:40:11,601
indicate units with home owner exemptions

5192
04:40:12,100 --> 04:40:14,100
represent 3 percent of all revenue

5193
04:40:14,100 --> 04:40:17,100
generating residential units that have tot

5194
04:40:17,100 --> 04:40:20,100
certificates. About 133 units in total

5195
04:40:21,100 --> 04:40:24,100
and most of the units are second family.

5196
04:40:24,100 --> 04:40:26,100
the remainder of the inventory is presumed

5197
04:40:26,100 --> 04:40:28,100
to be second homes as well as investor

5198
04:40:28,100 --> 04:40:31,601
owned properties. Next slide. On the

5199
04:40:34,100 --> 04:40:36,100
left here we can see information that was

5200
04:40:36,100 --> 04:40:39,601
pulled from the county's permitted str

5201
04:40:40,100 --> 04:40:43,100
inventory so this is just permitted str

5202
04:40:43,100 --> 04:40:46,100
and among those properties about 62

5203
04:40:47,100 --> 04:40:49,100
percent were professionally managed while

5204
04:40:49,100 --> 04:40:52,100
38 percent were owner managed. On the

5205
04:40:52,100 --> 04:40:56,201
right we see data for all revenue

5206
04:40:57,100 --> 04:41:01,201
generated units and from that we see 57

5207
04:41:03,100 --> 04:41:05,100
percent of the total active str inventory

5208
04:41:05,100 --> 04:41:08,100
was permitted under the county existing

5209
04:41:08,100 --> 04:41:11,100
regulations. Next slide. This figure

5210
04:41:14,100 --> 04:41:16,401
illustrates distribution of revenue

5211
04:41:18,100 --> 04:41:21,100
generating tot certificates by type

5212
04:41:22,100 --> 04:41:23,100
throughout the county. Generally speaking

5213
04:41:23,100 --> 04:41:26,100
we see significant clustering of

5214
04:41:26,100 --> 04:41:28,100
short-term rental properties in proximity

5215
04:41:28,100 --> 04:41:31,100
to major tourist destinations in

5216
04:41:31,100 --> 04:41:34,601
particular you have olympic valley alpine

5217
04:41:35,100 --> 04:41:39,201
meadows north star and north and west

5218
04:41:41,100 --> 04:41:44,601
shores of lake tahoe and [inaudible

5219
04:41:45,100 --> 04:41:48,100
comments] this figure illustrates the

5220
04:41:49,100 --> 04:41:52,100
distribution of revenue generating str by

5221
04:41:52,100 --> 04:41:55,100
bedroom size. We can see the majority of

5222
04:41:55,100 --> 04:41:58,100
units have between 2 and 4 bedrooms with

5223
04:41:58,100 --> 04:42:01,100
only about just under 6 percent of the

5224
04:42:01,100 --> 04:42:04,100
total str inventory having 5 or more

5225
04:42:04,100 --> 04:42:06,100
bedrooms and this generally suggests the

5226
04:42:06,100 --> 04:42:09,100
majority of rental properties in eastern

5227
04:42:09,100 --> 04:42:11,100
placer county are of a size functionally

5228
04:42:11,100 --> 04:42:14,100
appropriate for long-term housing as well.

5229
04:42:14,100 --> 04:42:18,801
next slide. Now we will talk about the

5230
04:42:20,100 --> 04:42:22,100
availability of occupancy of revenue

5231
04:42:22,100 --> 04:42:24,401
generating short-term rental properties.

5232
04:42:27,100 --> 04:42:28,100
this slide in particular is illustrating

5233
04:42:28,100 --> 04:42:31,100
for the most part short-term rental

5234
04:42:31,100 --> 04:42:34,100
properties are making available for

5235
04:42:34,100 --> 04:42:36,100
occupancy for very large segments of the

5236
04:42:36,100 --> 04:42:39,100
year. You can see the largest cohort is

5237
04:42:39,100 --> 04:42:42,601
271 nights per year. The general thinking

5238
04:42:43,100 --> 04:42:45,100
is most property owners are making their

5239
04:42:45,100 --> 04:42:47,100
property available for large portions of

5240
04:42:47,100 --> 04:42:50,100
the year so they can take advantage of

5241
04:42:50,100 --> 04:42:53,100
peak in demand as they materialize within

5242
04:42:53,100 --> 04:42:56,100
the market and they really only intend to

5243
04:42:56,100 --> 04:42:59,100
rent the unit for smaller amounts of time.

5244
04:42:59,100 --> 04:43:03,201
next slide. Here we see the distribution

5245
04:43:05,100 --> 04:43:09,100
of occupancy by number of nights. All is

5246
04:43:09,100 --> 04:43:12,100
a large clustering around hundred nights

5247
04:43:12,100 --> 04:43:17,100
and less and then a tale going off with

5248
04:43:17,100 --> 04:43:20,601
fewer and fewer properties being rented

5249
04:43:22,100 --> 04:43:25,100
throughout the year. Here we have the

5250
04:43:25,100 --> 04:43:28,100
average and median availability and

5251
04:43:28,100 --> 04:43:30,401
occupancy for revenue generating

5252
04:43:31,100 --> 04:43:32,100
residential properties with tot

5253
04:43:32,100 --> 04:43:36,100
certificates. You can see that on average

5254
04:43:36,100 --> 04:43:40,100
units are being made available of about

5255
04:43:40,100 --> 04:43:43,100
250 nights per year and occupied 103

5256
04:43:44,100 --> 04:43:47,100
nights average. There is about 104

5257
04:43:48,100 --> 04:43:52,100
weekend nights per year. So, we can see

5258
04:43:52,100 --> 04:43:54,100
units are occupied for significant

5259
04:43:54,100 --> 04:43:56,100
portions of the year and we also have to

5260
04:43:56,100 --> 04:43:58,100
acknowledge that it may not be every

5261
04:43:58,100 --> 04:44:00,100
weekend but you may have certain times of

5262
04:44:00,100 --> 04:44:03,601
year that have concentrations of demand

5263
04:44:04,100 --> 04:44:06,100
and a unit may be vacant for other

5264
04:44:06,100 --> 04:44:08,100
portions of the year. In general this

5265
04:44:08,100 --> 04:44:11,100
equals out to be average occupancy rate of

5266
04:44:11,100 --> 04:44:14,100
about 41 percent based on the available

5267
04:44:14,100 --> 04:44:17,100
self reported dat aa. In terms of the

5268
04:44:17,100 --> 04:44:20,100
average price paid per occupied night, we

5269
04:44:20,100 --> 04:44:24,201
are seeing total of about $344 per night

5270
04:44:25,100 --> 04:44:28,100
per unit. Based on average occupancy that

5271
04:44:28,100 --> 04:44:32,100
averages out to total gross revenue of

5272
04:44:32,100 --> 04:44:34,100
little over $35 thousand per year and if

5273
04:44:34,100 --> 04:44:37,100
we break that down into monthly average

5274
04:44:37,100 --> 04:44:41,100
that total is about $2900 per month. We

5275
04:44:41,100 --> 04:44:45,100
are recognizing the revenue may accrue in

5276
04:44:45,100 --> 04:44:47,100
lumps throughout the year and may not be

5277
04:44:47,100 --> 04:44:50,100
evenly distributed [inaudible comments] we

5278
04:45:03,100 --> 04:45:06,601
also compare that gross revenue generating

5279
04:45:07,100 --> 04:45:10,100
potential that is equal a little over 50

5280
04:45:10,100 --> 04:45:12,100
percent of the total debt service payment

5281
04:45:12,100 --> 04:45:16,801
for medium priced home. If you like at

5282
04:45:17,100 --> 04:45:19,100
sales between january and september this

5283
04:45:19,100 --> 04:45:23,201
year. Next slide. So while we don't

5284
04:45:24,100 --> 04:45:27,601
necessarily have a direct sufficient data

5285
04:45:29,100 --> 04:45:32,100
to substantiate direct relationship in

5286
04:45:32,100 --> 04:45:35,100
eastern placer county between str and

5287
04:45:35,100 --> 04:45:37,100
long-term pricing availability the

5288
04:45:37,100 --> 04:45:39,100
available literature suggests there is

5289
04:45:39,100 --> 04:45:41,401
likely some possible relationship.

5290
04:45:45,100 --> 04:45:47,100
[audio cutting out]

5291
04:45:47,100 --> 04:45:51,201
showing the average occupancy and vac ancy

5292
04:45:54,100 --> 04:45:56,401
between the 2006, 2010 community survey.

5293
04:46:03,100 --> 04:46:04,100
[inaudible comments] increase in the

5294
04:46:04,100 --> 04:46:06,100
number of units or percentage of units

5295
04:46:06,100 --> 04:46:09,100
held vacant for seasonally occasional use,

5296
04:46:09,100 --> 04:46:13,100
decrease in percent on units that are

5297
04:46:13,100 --> 04:46:16,601
full-time occupied. Next slide. So, one

5298
04:46:18,100 --> 04:46:20,100
other piece of the analysis we were

5299
04:46:20,100 --> 04:46:23,100
charged evaluating what the relationship

5300
04:46:23,100 --> 04:46:27,201
between str and the hotel and motel

5301
04:46:32,100 --> 04:46:34,100
overnight accommodations market. We are

5302
04:46:34,100 --> 04:46:38,100
doing this in order to essentially better

5303
04:46:38,100 --> 04:46:41,601
understand the extent to which regulating

5304
04:46:43,100 --> 04:46:46,100
str constrain the ability of tourist

5305
04:46:46,100 --> 04:46:48,100
accommodation recognizing eastern placer

5306
04:46:48,100 --> 04:46:52,100
county is a tourist driven economy. We

5307
04:46:52,100 --> 04:46:55,100
initially did that looking at the 2016

5308
04:46:55,100 --> 04:46:58,601
dean ronion visitor demand economic impact

5309
04:47:00,100 --> 04:47:03,100
study and we updated the numbers to get a

5310
04:47:03,100 --> 04:47:05,100
sense of the total number of visitor days

5311
04:47:05,100 --> 04:47:08,100
and or overnight-demand for overnight

5312
04:47:13,100 --> 04:47:15,100
accommodations and seen a significant

5313
04:47:15,100 --> 04:47:18,100
increase. There is insufficient data at

5314
04:47:18,100 --> 04:47:20,100
this time to fully assess the extend to

5315
04:47:20,100 --> 04:47:23,100
which the current inventory of overnight

5316
04:47:23,100 --> 04:47:26,100
accommodations is adequate. That said,

5317
04:47:26,100 --> 04:47:28,100
additional data that summarized in the

5318
04:47:28,100 --> 04:47:31,100
report attached to your packet suggests

5319
04:47:31,100 --> 04:47:34,100
that occupancy among hotel and motel

5320
04:47:34,100 --> 04:47:37,100
properties has been decreasing moderately

5321
04:47:37,100 --> 04:47:40,100
over the last handful of years which

5322
04:47:40,100 --> 04:47:42,100
corresponded with increase in occupancy

5323
04:47:42,100 --> 04:47:45,100
among short-term rental properties. This

5324
04:47:46,100 --> 04:47:49,100
suggests that perhaps the regulation of

5325
04:47:49,100 --> 04:47:52,100
short-term rental properties might result

5326
04:47:55,100 --> 04:47:58,100
in increased occupancy among hotel motel

5327
04:47:58,100 --> 04:48:00,100
properties. However, we also acknowledge

5328
04:48:00,100 --> 04:48:03,601
that demand among tourists for overnight

5329
04:48:05,100 --> 04:48:09,201
accommodations tends to occur in an uneven

5330
04:48:10,100 --> 04:48:13,601
way, so additional research may be

5331
04:48:14,100 --> 04:48:16,100
necessary to assess the balance of demand

5332
04:48:16,100 --> 04:48:19,100
and supply between tourists overnight

5333
04:48:19,100 --> 04:48:22,100
stays and the lodging industry. Next

5334
04:48:22,100 --> 04:48:25,601
slide. So, again in summary, the

5335
04:48:26,100 --> 04:48:29,100
literature review we prepared as part of

5336
04:48:29,100 --> 04:48:31,100
the research generally indicated str do

5337
04:48:31,100 --> 04:48:34,100
have a significant relationship between

5338
04:48:34,100 --> 04:48:36,100
the availability and pricing of long-term

5339
04:48:36,100 --> 04:48:38,100
housing as well as occupancy and pricing

5340
04:48:38,100 --> 04:48:41,100
for hotel motel properties. About 28

5341
04:48:42,100 --> 04:48:45,100
percent of the current housing stock is

5342
04:48:45,100 --> 04:48:48,100
actively used for short-term rental

5343
04:48:49,100 --> 04:48:52,100
purpose. Since 2010 we have seen 43

5344
04:48:52,100 --> 04:48:55,100
percent increase in the number of str

5345
04:48:55,100 --> 04:48:57,100
units that are active in eastern placer

5346
04:48:57,100 --> 04:49:00,100
county. We have seen 47 percent increase

5347
04:49:00,100 --> 04:49:04,801
in the number of condo hotel and time

5348
04:49:05,100 --> 04:49:08,100
share property and virtually no change in

5349
04:49:08,100 --> 04:49:11,100
hotel motel units. In general there is

5350
04:49:11,100 --> 04:49:13,100
str properties are generating average of

5351
04:49:13,100 --> 04:49:16,100
around $35 thousand per year in gross

5352
04:49:16,100 --> 04:49:19,100
revenue and occupied for average around

5353
04:49:19,100 --> 04:49:22,100
103 nights per year. The current average

5354
04:49:22,100 --> 04:49:25,100
gross revenue generated by short-term

5355
04:49:28,100 --> 04:49:30,100
rental property is competitive for

5356
04:49:30,100 --> 04:49:33,601
long-term rental housing and that gross

5357
04:49:34,100 --> 04:49:37,100
revenue is sufficient to offset

5358
04:49:37,100 --> 04:49:39,100
significant portion of the holding cost

5359
04:49:39,100 --> 04:49:42,601
for second home owners and residential

5360
04:49:44,100 --> 04:49:47,100
property in eastern county. Next slide.

5361
04:49:47,100 --> 04:49:49,100
I think with that I'll hand it back to

5362
04:49:49,100 --> 04:49:52,100
stephanie. Thank you very much.

5363
04:49:54,100 --> 04:49:56,100
>> thank you aaron. And good afternoon

5364
04:49:56,100 --> 04:49:59,100
everyone. Crystal jacobson with the

5365
04:49:59,100 --> 04:50:01,100
community development resource agency and

5366
04:50:01,100 --> 04:50:06,100
so I am going touch on-I will walk you

5367
04:50:06,100 --> 04:50:09,100
through some of had amendments we have

5368
04:50:09,100 --> 04:50:11,100
been framing up for the board

5369
04:50:11,100 --> 04:50:13,100
consideration but before I do that, I want

5370
04:50:13,100 --> 04:50:16,100
to touch on our overall housing and

5371
04:50:16,100 --> 04:50:18,100
economic development strategy because with

5372
04:50:18,100 --> 04:50:21,100
this effort we are working on right now

5373
04:50:21,100 --> 04:50:24,601
updating our str ordinance, it is

5374
04:50:25,100 --> 04:50:27,100
important to look what we are doing

5375
04:50:27,100 --> 04:50:30,100
overall. This is just the ordinance

5376
04:50:30,100 --> 04:50:34,100
update is one piece of the puzzle to

5377
04:50:34,100 --> 04:50:36,100
address housing and increase tourism and

5378
04:50:36,100 --> 04:50:40,100
impact tourism bring to the region so we

5379
04:50:40,100 --> 04:50:41,100
want to think what we are doing on the

5380
04:50:41,100 --> 04:50:44,100
incentive side and regulatory side.

5381
04:50:44,100 --> 04:50:46,100
carrot and stick approach. On the housing

5382
04:50:46,100 --> 04:50:48,100
side we have been focusing on the

5383
04:50:48,100 --> 04:50:49,100
development of workforce housing in the

5384
04:50:49,100 --> 04:50:51,401
tahoe region. Celebrating the

5385
04:50:53,100 --> 04:50:55,100
construction of hundred units in placer

5386
04:50:55,100 --> 04:50:58,100
with meadow view and hopkin village

5387
04:50:58,100 --> 04:51:01,601
projects which jane touched on earlier.

5388
04:51:02,100 --> 04:51:03,100
and then we also have other housing

5389
04:51:03,100 --> 04:51:07,100
projects in the works namely the dollar

5390
04:51:07,100 --> 04:51:09,100
creek crossings and orts looking at the

5391
04:51:09,100 --> 04:51:12,100
development of construction both in and

5392
04:51:12,100 --> 04:51:16,100
out of the basin. We also freed up tot

5393
04:51:16,100 --> 04:51:20,100
dollars from the tbid dedicated to housing

5394
04:51:20,100 --> 04:51:23,100
and transportation. The workforce housing

5395
04:51:32,100 --> 04:51:34,100
preservation program is a great example of

5396
04:51:34,100 --> 04:51:37,601
your board's commitment to incent vising

5397
04:51:38,100 --> 04:51:40,100
home ownership to the local workforce in

5398
04:51:40,100 --> 04:51:43,100
the county. In addition your board

5399
04:51:43,100 --> 04:51:44,100
involvement and contribution to the the

5400
04:51:44,100 --> 04:51:47,100
truckee tahoe workforce housing agency is

5401
04:51:47,100 --> 04:51:50,100
just another example of how we are

5402
04:51:50,100 --> 04:51:53,100
addressing housing needs in our region.

5403
04:51:53,100 --> 04:51:55,100
the north lake tahoe economic development

5404
04:51:55,100 --> 04:51:58,601
incentive program tot rebate program for

5405
04:51:59,100 --> 04:52:01,100
commercial lodging which your board

5406
04:52:01,100 --> 04:52:03,100
approved is a example of providing

5407
04:52:03,100 --> 04:52:05,100
incentives to help get lodging units

5408
04:52:05,100 --> 04:52:08,100
constructed and on the ground in our tahoe

5409
04:52:08,100 --> 04:52:11,100
region. And then on the regulatory side

5410
04:52:11,100 --> 04:52:14,100
we brought forward and continue to work on

5411
04:52:14,100 --> 04:52:17,100
various code amendments aimed at

5412
04:52:18,100 --> 04:52:19,100
eliminating barriers to housing and

5413
04:52:19,100 --> 04:52:21,100
promote redevelopment in our town centers

5414
04:52:21,100 --> 04:52:24,100
in the tahoe basin area, so in the spring

5415
04:52:24,100 --> 04:52:27,100
we are going to bring forward another

5416
04:52:27,100 --> 04:52:30,100
amendment package to the area plan aimed

5417
04:52:30,100 --> 04:52:32,100
at redevelopment of our town centers. So,

5418
04:52:32,100 --> 04:52:35,100
while this effort this update to the

5419
04:52:35,100 --> 04:52:37,100
short-term rental ordinance could result

5420
04:52:37,100 --> 04:52:40,100
in the potential restriction of str uses

5421
04:52:40,100 --> 04:52:43,100
it is heavy on the regulatory side. It is

5422
04:52:43,100 --> 04:52:45,100
important to look at the big picture and

5423
04:52:45,100 --> 04:52:48,100
what we are doing to address housing and

5424
04:52:48,100 --> 04:52:50,100
tourism in the region and again, it is

5425
04:52:50,100 --> 04:52:54,201
that carrot and stick approach. I will

5426
04:52:55,100 --> 04:52:58,100
touch on some of the str restrictions you

5427
04:52:58,100 --> 04:52:59,100
board could consider as part of this

5428
04:52:59,100 --> 04:53:02,100
ordinance update. As you know our current

5429
04:53:02,100 --> 04:53:05,100
ordinance is intended to address

5430
04:53:07,100 --> 04:53:08,100
nuisances. We do continue to track the

5431
04:53:08,100 --> 04:53:11,100
various areas of the code we need to clean

5432
04:53:11,100 --> 04:53:13,100
up and modify and I will go through those

5433
04:53:13,100 --> 04:53:16,100
here in a minute. But before I do that, I

5434
04:53:16,100 --> 04:53:18,100
am going to outline additional policy

5435
04:53:18,100 --> 04:53:21,100
options that your board could consider

5436
04:53:21,100 --> 04:53:23,100
with this update. These are more

5437
04:53:23,100 --> 04:53:26,601
restrictive options that can be considered

5438
04:53:27,100 --> 04:53:29,100
individually or layered and I'll walk

5439
04:53:29,100 --> 04:53:33,201
through this list here. I'm one over.

5440
04:53:35,100 --> 04:53:40,401
are we missing a slide? I think we might

5441
04:53:45,100 --> 04:53:48,100
be missing a slide or we are having a

5442
04:53:48,100 --> 04:53:51,100
slide problems. There we go. Okay. So,

5443
04:53:51,100 --> 04:53:53,100
the first on the list is the establishment

5444
04:53:53,100 --> 04:53:57,100
of numerical cap on str. There are three

5445
04:53:57,100 --> 04:53:59,100
options listed here that you could

5446
04:53:59,100 --> 04:54:03,100
consider. The first option a is taking

5447
04:54:03,100 --> 04:54:06,100
into consideration the existing str

5448
04:54:06,100 --> 04:54:09,100
inventory and active tot certificates.

5449
04:54:09,100 --> 04:54:12,100
so, as aaron reported after fully studying

5450
04:54:12,100 --> 04:54:14,100
our inventory we know this number is about

5451
04:54:14,100 --> 04:54:17,601
4400 or so, it is 4420 represents about 28

5452
04:54:20,100 --> 04:54:23,100
percent of the housing stock. And then

5453
04:54:23,100 --> 04:54:26,100
again as he indicated these numbers do not

5454
04:54:26,100 --> 04:54:30,100
include hotel motel units. And then I

5455
04:54:30,100 --> 04:54:31,100
will skip to the bottom number which is

5456
04:54:31,100 --> 04:54:35,801
the existing inventory of str plus all tot

5457
04:54:36,100 --> 04:54:38,100
certificates so this is a larger number,

5458
04:54:38,100 --> 04:54:41,100
about 5800 and represents 38 percent of

5459
04:54:42,100 --> 04:54:44,100
our housing stock so again both of the

5460
04:54:44,100 --> 04:54:47,100
numbers mentioned do not include housing

5461
04:54:47,100 --> 04:54:50,100
or hotel or motel units. And then option

5462
04:54:50,100 --> 04:54:53,100
b there in the middle is your board could

5463
04:54:53,100 --> 04:54:56,100
consider something less then those

5464
04:54:56,100 --> 04:54:58,100
numbers. You can come in under that.

5465
04:54:58,100 --> 04:55:02,100
what we did not include here is an option

5466
04:55:02,100 --> 04:55:05,601
to consider the full inventory, the 5800

5467
04:55:06,100 --> 04:55:08,100
plus an additional 5 or 10 percent. I

5468
04:55:08,100 --> 04:55:10,100
know that was discussed at the last

5469
04:55:10,100 --> 04:55:14,801
hearing we had with the board on the

5470
04:55:15,100 --> 04:55:17,100
moratorium. We did not include that

5471
04:55:17,100 --> 04:55:18,100
option for your consideration today

5472
04:55:18,100 --> 04:55:20,100
because I think the inventory after

5473
04:55:20,100 --> 04:55:22,100
studying it was much larger then we had

5474
04:55:22,100 --> 04:55:24,100
anticipated. I remember our permit

5475
04:55:24,100 --> 04:55:27,100
numbers right now for str are around 2500

5476
04:55:27,100 --> 04:55:30,100
and so we didn't include that but that is

5477
04:55:30,100 --> 04:55:31,100
certainly something your board could

5478
04:55:31,100 --> 04:55:33,100
consider is the full inventory plus in

5479
04:55:33,100 --> 04:55:37,100
addition. So, the next item is a minimum

5480
04:55:37,100 --> 04:55:40,100
or maximum night rented per year. This is

5481
04:55:40,100 --> 04:55:42,100
another item again you could consider this

5482
04:55:42,100 --> 04:55:46,100
individually or layer it. And for the

5483
04:55:46,100 --> 04:55:48,100
minimum this is something that could be

5484
04:55:48,100 --> 04:55:52,100
layered if your board decides to impose a

5485
04:55:52,100 --> 04:55:55,100
numerical cap and this is a way to incent

5486
04:55:55,100 --> 04:55:59,100
vise folks that have permits or tot

5487
04:55:59,100 --> 04:56:01,100
certificates but not been renting, so we

5488
04:56:01,100 --> 04:56:05,201
know that number is around 1400, folks on

5489
04:56:07,100 --> 04:56:10,100
a tot certificate or str permit and not

5490
04:56:10,100 --> 04:56:12,100
renting. By establishing a minimum you

5491
04:56:12,100 --> 04:56:17,401
would incent vise the folks to rent and by

5492
04:56:18,100 --> 04:56:21,100
not using it the next person with access

5493
04:56:21,100 --> 04:56:24,100
the permit and rent it. Establishing

5494
04:56:24,100 --> 04:56:26,100
maximum standard can do two things.

5495
04:56:26,100 --> 04:56:30,100
first, is that we got a average number of

5496
04:56:30,100 --> 04:56:34,100
nights stays around 103 we know per year

5497
04:56:34,100 --> 04:56:38,100
and then the return on that investment of

5498
04:56:38,100 --> 04:56:40,100
throwing that into the mix is about 35

5499
04:56:40,100 --> 04:56:43,100
thousand per year these folks are making

5500
04:56:43,100 --> 04:56:47,201
on their str. Your board could the

5501
04:56:53,100 --> 04:56:55,100
maximum. If long-term renting is more

5502
04:56:55,100 --> 04:56:57,100
profitable they may rethink their strategy

5503
04:56:57,100 --> 04:57:00,100
and throw their unit into a long-term

5504
04:57:00,100 --> 04:57:04,201
housing mix. This option may also limit

5505
04:57:05,100 --> 04:57:07,100
people or corporations from purchasing

5506
04:57:07,100 --> 04:57:11,201
homes for the sole purpose of short-term

5507
04:57:18,100 --> 04:57:22,100
renting it. The next item on the list is

5508
04:57:22,100 --> 04:57:25,100
a waiting period. This could be 6 months

5509
04:57:25,100 --> 04:57:27,100
12, this is something the town of truckee

5510
04:57:27,100 --> 04:57:29,100
has been considering so we added it for

5511
04:57:29,100 --> 04:57:33,100
your board to contemplate on. This would

5512
04:57:33,100 --> 04:57:36,100
limit new str being rented for certain

5513
04:57:36,100 --> 04:57:38,100
period of time. It can be 6, could be 12

5514
04:57:38,100 --> 04:57:41,100
months but the idea is that folks may

5515
04:57:41,100 --> 04:57:44,601
reconsider purchasing homes for the sole

5516
04:57:45,100 --> 04:57:48,100
purpose of renting it if they dont have

5517
04:57:48,100 --> 04:57:50,100
the capital to buy the house and sit on it

5518
04:57:50,100 --> 04:57:53,100
for 6 or 12 months with that waiting

5519
04:57:53,100 --> 04:57:57,201
period. Really it would be all extension

5520
04:57:58,100 --> 04:58:01,100
of moratorium so you can apply for a

5521
04:58:01,100 --> 04:58:03,100
permit but have to wait. Again, this is

5522
04:58:03,100 --> 04:58:04,100
something that is being considered in the

5523
04:58:04,100 --> 04:58:07,100
region so we throw it in here for

5524
04:58:07,100 --> 04:58:10,601
discussion. The next item is special

5525
04:58:11,100 --> 04:58:14,100
provisions for primary ownership and

5526
04:58:14,100 --> 04:58:18,100
hosted str so we know we got locals in the

5527
04:58:18,100 --> 04:58:20,100
community that rent their units. They may

5528
04:58:20,100 --> 04:58:24,100
rent to a room or two may rent their unit

5529
04:58:24,100 --> 04:58:27,100
while on vacation. We included this

5530
04:58:27,100 --> 04:58:29,100
because this is a response to comments we

5531
04:58:29,100 --> 04:58:32,100
heard from the community about how renting

5532
04:58:32,100 --> 04:58:34,100
short-term is a way to locals to off set

5533
04:58:34,100 --> 04:58:37,100
or supplement their mortgage. Again, we

5534
04:58:37,100 --> 04:58:41,801
know this is about 3 percent of our str

5535
04:58:43,100 --> 04:58:46,100
but your board could consider special

5536
04:58:46,100 --> 04:58:48,100
provisions for local. If you establish or

5537
04:58:48,100 --> 04:58:52,100
impose a cap on str these folks can be

5538
04:58:52,100 --> 04:58:56,100
exempt from that cap. Moving on the last

5539
04:58:56,100 --> 04:58:59,100
one on the list is density or geo spatial

5540
04:58:59,100 --> 04:59:02,100
limitations. Those are the provisions

5541
04:59:02,100 --> 04:59:05,100
that limit str per neighborhood. Some

5542
04:59:05,100 --> 04:59:08,100
folks explain them as clustering

5543
04:59:09,100 --> 04:59:11,100
provisions where you might have a str

5544
04:59:11,100 --> 04:59:13,100
every 500 feet for example. We do believe

5545
04:59:13,100 --> 04:59:15,100
this is a tool that may help address

5546
04:59:15,100 --> 04:59:17,100
concerns regarding neighborhood

5547
04:59:17,100 --> 04:59:19,401
compatibility and integrity. Again,

5548
04:59:21,100 --> 04:59:25,100
essentially limiting how many you can have

5549
04:59:25,100 --> 04:59:28,100
per neighborhood so you don't is a row of

5550
04:59:28,100 --> 04:59:32,801
str on any street. We believe this option

5551
04:59:35,100 --> 04:59:39,100
would require a high demand in terms of

5552
04:59:39,100 --> 04:59:40,100
staff resources needs to implement

5553
04:59:40,100 --> 04:59:43,100
something like this. It is labor

5554
04:59:43,100 --> 04:59:46,100
intensive. We also think there are

5555
04:59:46,100 --> 04:59:48,100
impacts that need to be analyzed so we

5556
04:59:48,100 --> 04:59:50,100
think that with this option we need a

5557
04:59:50,100 --> 04:59:53,100
little more time to analyze this option

5558
04:59:53,100 --> 04:59:56,100
and thoroughly vet it before the community

5559
04:59:56,100 --> 04:59:58,100
and your board so for those reasons it

5560
04:59:58,100 --> 04:59:59,100
isn't something that we are bringing

5561
04:59:59,100 --> 05:00:01,100
forward at this time for your board's

5562
05:00:01,100 --> 05:00:03,100
consideration but it is something if your

5563
05:00:03,100 --> 05:00:06,100
board desires we can bring forward at a

5564
05:00:06,100 --> 05:00:11,100
later date. So, as I stated earlier we do

5565
05:00:11,100 --> 05:00:14,100
continue our team continues to track areas

5566
05:00:14,100 --> 05:00:16,100
of the code that are problematic that we

5567
05:00:16,100 --> 05:00:20,100
believe are not effective or need to be

5568
05:00:20,100 --> 05:00:23,100
revisited or cleaned up so this is a list

5569
05:00:23,100 --> 05:00:26,100
of the items. We were before your board

5570
05:00:26,100 --> 05:00:28,100
last march with a cleanup effort so these

5571
05:00:28,100 --> 05:00:31,100
items I will talk about now are really in

5572
05:00:31,100 --> 05:00:35,100
that same spirit of cleaning it up. The

5573
05:00:35,100 --> 05:00:38,100
first is to propose to eliminate the

5574
05:00:38,100 --> 05:00:41,100
exemption provisions or modify them in the

5575
05:00:41,100 --> 05:00:44,601
ordinance. The ordinance apply to all

5576
05:00:45,100 --> 05:00:47,100
residential properties. Not apply to

5577
05:00:47,100 --> 05:00:51,100
hotel motel condo tells or time shares.

5578
05:00:51,100 --> 05:00:55,801
that function like hotel we say they would

5579
05:00:56,100 --> 05:00:58,100
be not subject to the ordinance but if

5580
05:00:58,100 --> 05:01:01,601
they are functioning as residential use

5581
05:01:04,100 --> 05:01:06,100
they are subject are. This is a gray area

5582
05:01:06,100 --> 05:01:09,100
in the code. It is hard for staff to

5583
05:01:09,100 --> 05:01:11,100
implement it. There is a lot of back and

5584
05:01:11,100 --> 05:01:14,100
forth with property owners a lot time

5585
05:01:14,100 --> 05:01:16,100
spent reviewing and a lot of folks that I

5586
05:01:16,100 --> 05:01:20,100
think think they are exempt and don't

5587
05:01:20,100 --> 05:01:22,100
request exemption and operating without a

5588
05:01:22,100 --> 05:01:25,100
permit so we know have about 40 percent of

5589
05:01:25,100 --> 05:01:28,100
our units that either think they are

5590
05:01:28,100 --> 05:01:31,601
exempt or come for exemption request.

5591
05:01:34,100 --> 05:01:38,201
because of that then they are also

5592
05:01:39,100 --> 05:01:41,100
not-don't have the benefit of inspection

5593
05:01:41,100 --> 05:01:43,100
so not getting the fire life safety

5594
05:01:43,100 --> 05:01:46,100
inspections and also not being enforced.

5595
05:01:46,100 --> 05:01:49,100
so, we believe that this eliminating the

5596
05:01:49,100 --> 05:01:51,100
exemptions would help provide consistency

5597
05:01:51,100 --> 05:01:54,100
in permitting and inspections and

5598
05:01:55,100 --> 05:01:57,100
enforcement. The next item on the list is

5599
05:01:57,100 --> 05:01:59,100
to add or increase fire protection

5600
05:01:59,100 --> 05:02:02,100
standards. This proposing to require fire

5601
05:02:02,100 --> 05:02:04,100
inspections at the time of permit

5602
05:02:04,100 --> 05:02:06,401
application. Currently applicants have 3

5603
05:02:07,100 --> 05:02:09,100
to 5 years to get inspections so for the

5604
05:02:09,100 --> 05:02:12,601
privately managed str they have 3 years

5605
05:02:14,100 --> 05:02:17,601
and professionals have 5 years. What we

5606
05:02:19,100 --> 05:02:22,100
are finding is that we are two years into

5607
05:02:22,100 --> 05:02:24,100
the program. This is our second permit

5608
05:02:24,100 --> 05:02:27,100
cycle and we have only about 8 percent of

5609
05:02:27,100 --> 05:02:30,601
properties that have been inspected have

5610
05:02:31,100 --> 05:02:32,100
had the fire inspection. What we know is

5611
05:02:32,100 --> 05:02:35,100
the current model is really not working

5612
05:02:35,100 --> 05:02:38,100
and so we are proposing to change that.

5613
05:02:38,100 --> 05:02:40,100
we are also requiring more frequent fire

5614
05:02:40,100 --> 05:02:44,100
inspections so currently we have a system

5615
05:02:44,100 --> 05:02:47,100
where just mentioned every 3 years the

5616
05:02:47,100 --> 05:02:50,100
private managed folks get inspections and

5617
05:02:50,100 --> 05:02:53,100
are or supposed to and then every 5 years

5618
05:02:53,100 --> 05:02:56,100
the profession al folks are and the burden

5619
05:02:56,100 --> 05:02:58,100
is on the applicant to initiate the

5620
05:02:58,100 --> 05:03:01,100
inspections. What we are proposing is 1

5621
05:03:01,100 --> 05:03:04,100
and 3 your model. 1 year for the

5622
05:03:04,100 --> 05:03:06,100
privately managed folks and 3 for

5623
05:03:06,100 --> 05:03:09,100
professionals. Also proposing a rolling

5624
05:03:09,100 --> 05:03:12,100
annual permit model, so changing the

5625
05:03:12,100 --> 05:03:14,100
permitting to rolling model instead of

5626
05:03:14,100 --> 05:03:16,100
permits that expire at the same time

5627
05:03:16,100 --> 05:03:19,100
annually. We believe this would allow

5628
05:03:19,100 --> 05:03:23,100
applicants would help would be in support

5629
05:03:23,100 --> 05:03:26,100
of this because they come any time of the

5630
05:03:26,100 --> 05:03:29,100
year I and get a permit and run the full

5631
05:03:29,100 --> 05:03:31,100
year instead of expiring every march.

5632
05:03:31,100 --> 05:03:33,100
this would help our staff to spread out

5633
05:03:33,100 --> 05:03:36,601
the processing of applications, lesson the

5634
05:03:37,100 --> 05:03:39,100
demand and resource need at one time every

5635
05:03:39,100 --> 05:03:43,801
year. The same is true for the fire

5636
05:03:44,100 --> 05:03:46,100
district. This allows them to continually

5637
05:03:46,100 --> 05:03:49,100
inspect properties if your board elects to

5638
05:03:49,100 --> 05:03:51,100
go with a model where fire inspections are

5639
05:03:51,100 --> 05:03:53,100
required a that time of permit

5640
05:03:53,100 --> 05:03:55,100
application, the fire districts will have

5641
05:03:55,100 --> 05:03:58,100
to do those inspections with every

5642
05:03:58,100 --> 05:03:59,100
application but if you rolled it out

5643
05:03:59,100 --> 05:04:01,100
through the year it is a little more

5644
05:04:01,100 --> 05:04:03,100
manageable. Talking with the fire

5645
05:04:03,100 --> 05:04:06,100
districts they did express they are open

5646
05:04:06,100 --> 05:04:08,100
to the model. I will say they are

5647
05:04:08,100 --> 05:04:12,100
currently concerned with how few str units

5648
05:04:12,100 --> 05:04:15,601
have been inspected and worried about

5649
05:04:16,100 --> 05:04:19,100
getting big influx within the next year in

5650
05:04:19,100 --> 05:04:21,100
terms of numbers of units they need to

5651
05:04:21,100 --> 05:04:24,100
inspect. We have talked to the fire

5652
05:04:24,100 --> 05:04:26,100
districts about the capacity to handle the

5653
05:04:26,100 --> 05:04:28,100
type of inspection load. We need to have

5654
05:04:28,100 --> 05:04:31,100
further discussion there. We have talked

5655
05:04:31,100 --> 05:04:35,100
about the county could have a inhouse

5656
05:04:35,100 --> 05:04:39,100
inspector to help with districts that need

5657
05:04:39,100 --> 05:04:41,100
capacity do inspections. Moving on to the

5658
05:04:41,100 --> 05:04:44,100
the stricter nuisance standards. We

5659
05:04:45,100 --> 05:04:48,100
proposing to strengthen noise and

5660
05:04:48,100 --> 05:04:51,100
occupancy limits. The occupancy standards

5661
05:04:51,100 --> 05:04:53,100
to bring those in line with industry

5662
05:04:53,100 --> 05:04:56,601
standard which is 1.5 times the nightly

5663
05:04:57,100 --> 05:05:00,100
occupancy so if you have a unit that has

5664
05:05:00,100 --> 05:05:04,100
an occupancy limit of 8 you can have 1.5

5665
05:05:04,100 --> 05:05:08,201
times that number for day time occupancy.

5666
05:05:11,100 --> 05:05:13,100
the idea is limit parties. There is

5667
05:05:13,100 --> 05:05:15,100
provision in the code that allows to get a

5668
05:05:15,100 --> 05:05:18,601
special use permit. Special event permit

5669
05:05:19,100 --> 05:05:20,100
for str that is through the planning

5670
05:05:20,100 --> 05:05:23,100
department, so if you were hosting a

5671
05:05:23,100 --> 05:05:25,100
larger party there is a avenue for folks

5672
05:05:25,100 --> 05:05:29,100
to do that. And then for parking we would

5673
05:05:29,100 --> 05:05:32,100
require parking stall counts to be posted

5674
05:05:32,100 --> 05:05:34,100
in the advertisement so folks know what

5675
05:05:34,100 --> 05:05:37,100
the constraints are on a site for parking

5676
05:05:37,100 --> 05:05:40,100
and are for noise propose to increase

5677
05:05:40,100 --> 05:05:42,100
quite hours and then prohibit outdoor

5678
05:05:42,100 --> 05:05:46,100
amplified sound. Moving on to the next

5679
05:05:46,100 --> 05:05:49,601
one increasing str unit postings requiring

5680
05:05:50,100 --> 05:05:52,100
posting in common places inside the unit

5681
05:05:52,100 --> 05:05:55,100
plus each additional bedroom and outside

5682
05:05:55,100 --> 05:05:58,100
on either a [inaudible comments] or a

5683
05:05:58,100 --> 05:06:00,100
window and it would require the permit

5684
05:06:00,100 --> 05:06:03,100
number general information about the

5685
05:06:04,100 --> 05:06:06,100
operational stander, warnings about red

5686
05:06:06,100 --> 05:06:09,100
flag days, and again this is really

5687
05:06:09,100 --> 05:06:11,100
industry standard. It would also have the

5688
05:06:11,100 --> 05:06:13,100
str hot line and provide a way for folks

5689
05:06:13,100 --> 05:06:16,100
to understand this is a str unit and know

5690
05:06:16,100 --> 05:06:19,100
where to call if there are issues.

5691
05:06:19,100 --> 05:06:22,601
limiting 1 per parcel apply to multifamily

5692
05:06:23,100 --> 05:06:26,100
and single family and not condo units. We

5693
05:06:26,100 --> 05:06:28,100
believe this alignment with the state

5694
05:06:28,100 --> 05:06:32,100
housing goal if there are two units on a

5695
05:06:32,100 --> 05:06:36,100
property a d ru intended for to be

5696
05:06:36,100 --> 05:06:39,100
available for housing. The other logic

5697
05:06:39,100 --> 05:06:41,100
behind this is it provides for on site

5698
05:06:41,100 --> 05:06:43,100
management so if you have two units on a

5699
05:06:43,100 --> 05:06:45,100
property someone could live there and

5700
05:06:45,100 --> 05:06:48,100
provide on site management. We'll point

5701
05:06:48,100 --> 05:06:52,100
out we did take a look, we currently have

5702
05:06:52,100 --> 05:06:56,201
four parcels now, so so 4 parcels with

5703
05:06:59,100 --> 05:07:01,100
active permits 2 permits on a property.

5704
05:07:01,100 --> 05:07:05,100
three of those are duplexes. Not a lot of

5705
05:07:05,100 --> 05:07:07,100
units right now where we see two permits

5706
05:07:07,100 --> 05:07:11,100
on one property. The next on the list

5707
05:07:11,100 --> 05:07:15,100
here is increased penalty fines. We are

5708
05:07:15,100 --> 05:07:17,100
prosing to bring up the fines to industry

5709
05:07:17,100 --> 05:07:20,601
standard in line with senate bill $60,

5710
05:07:21,100 --> 05:07:23,100
which sets maximum fines for str so we

5711
05:07:23,100 --> 05:07:26,601
would propose- first under the current

5712
05:07:27,100 --> 05:07:30,100
model we got escalating structure from

5713
05:07:30,100 --> 05:07:34,100
$500 fine that goes to a thousand and we

5714
05:07:34,100 --> 05:07:38,100
propose to change that from start at $1500

5715
05:07:38,100 --> 05:07:42,100
go to $3 thousand and go to $5 thousand so

5716
05:07:42,100 --> 05:07:44,100
escalates up. Also proposing just to

5717
05:07:44,100 --> 05:07:46,100
change this standard so you got different

5718
05:07:46,100 --> 05:07:49,100
fines for operational standards and

5719
05:07:50,100 --> 05:07:52,100
different fine structure for operating

5720
05:07:52,100 --> 05:07:56,100
without a permit, so a little different

5721
05:07:56,100 --> 05:07:59,100
fining structure for those two violations.

5722
05:07:59,100 --> 05:08:02,100
modified appeal process. Currently the

5723
05:08:03,100 --> 05:08:07,201
penalties are determined by as outlined in

5724
05:08:08,100 --> 05:08:10,100
the code determined by administrative

5725
05:08:10,100 --> 05:08:12,100
hearing office. Those can be appealed to

5726
05:08:12,100 --> 05:08:17,100
the board. We are just up for the board's

5727
05:08:17,100 --> 05:08:19,100
consideration is to change that and

5728
05:08:19,100 --> 05:08:23,201
perhaps have the penalty determined by the

5729
05:08:24,100 --> 05:08:26,100
sedra director and appeal could go to the

5730
05:08:26,100 --> 05:08:28,100
administrative hearing office and stop

5731
05:08:28,100 --> 05:08:30,100
there if your board desires to make that

5732
05:08:30,100 --> 05:08:34,801
change. Really quick I will touch on some

5733
05:08:35,100 --> 05:08:39,100
work that ben actually has been doing on

5734
05:08:39,100 --> 05:08:42,100
the permit system and really the idea here

5735
05:08:42,100 --> 05:08:45,100
is to align with str permit system with a

5736
05:08:45,100 --> 05:08:48,100
tot certificate system. So, we have

5737
05:08:48,100 --> 05:08:51,100
partnered with deckhard technologies for

5738
05:08:51,100 --> 05:08:53,100
software integration, so as part of this

5739
05:08:53,100 --> 05:08:55,100
update we are looking to improve the

5740
05:08:55,100 --> 05:08:58,100
permit system and are align these two

5741
05:08:58,100 --> 05:09:00,100
processes. Currently we have two separate

5742
05:09:00,100 --> 05:09:04,100
systems so it causes-I mentioned to the

5743
05:09:04,100 --> 05:09:08,801
board. We have a lot of confusion delay

5744
05:09:09,100 --> 05:09:12,100
in permits and inefficiency tracking

5745
05:09:14,100 --> 05:09:17,100
metric. Different data sets and st. Is a

5746
05:09:17,100 --> 05:09:20,100
challenge to track these as you can see in

5747
05:09:20,100 --> 05:09:23,100
the report indicates that. It was hard to

5748
05:09:23,100 --> 05:09:25,100
fully understand the inventory without

5749
05:09:25,100 --> 05:09:27,100
studying it so we believe that partners

5750
05:09:27,100 --> 05:09:29,100
with deckard and really aligning these two

5751
05:09:29,100 --> 05:09:33,100
processes will help us with that data.

5752
05:09:33,100 --> 05:09:37,100
pulling the data. We also think it will

5753
05:09:37,100 --> 05:09:40,100
improve the user interface that allow to

5754
05:09:40,100 --> 05:09:43,100
better serve the customers one stop shop

5755
05:09:43,100 --> 05:09:46,100
you go for the permit and get the tot at

5756
05:09:46,100 --> 05:09:49,100
the same time. It also allows better

5757
05:09:49,100 --> 05:09:52,100
tracking. Also allows to track online

5758
05:09:52,100 --> 05:09:54,100
listings, fire inspection sign off and

5759
05:09:54,100 --> 05:09:57,100
just maintain a single database.

5760
05:09:57,100 --> 05:09:59,100
essentially this will streamline we

5761
05:09:59,100 --> 05:10:01,100
believe the permit process and help us

5762
05:10:01,100 --> 05:10:04,100
with reporting and enforcement. So,

5763
05:10:05,100 --> 05:10:07,100
that's all I have on that. I will toss it

5764
05:10:07,100 --> 05:10:09,100
to stephanie to wrap up.

5765
05:10:09,100 --> 05:10:11,100
>> I'll close us out here. Just remind

5766
05:10:11,100 --> 05:10:13,100
your board we are not asking for action

5767
05:10:13,100 --> 05:10:16,100
today. This is just to give a update of

5768
05:10:16,100 --> 05:10:17,100
everything we have been working on since

5769
05:10:17,100 --> 05:10:20,100
the moratorium and working up towards the

5770
05:10:20,100 --> 05:10:23,601
deadline of the moratorium. We are

5771
05:10:24,100 --> 05:10:26,100
prepping to potentially come back to your

5772
05:10:26,100 --> 05:10:29,100
board with a ordinance consideration in

5773
05:10:29,100 --> 05:10:33,100
january and as crystal just outlined all

5774
05:10:33,100 --> 05:10:35,100
the details we are working on specifically

5775
05:10:35,100 --> 05:10:38,100
cleanup items as a baseline and then

5776
05:10:38,100 --> 05:10:41,100
asking your board for considerations on

5777
05:10:41,100 --> 05:10:44,100
potential regulations on top of that those

5778
05:10:44,100 --> 05:10:47,601
ordinance cleanups. With that, I will

5779
05:10:48,100 --> 05:10:51,100
just put up this slide. I think this was

5780
05:10:51,100 --> 05:10:55,100
key areas that staff has identified for

5781
05:10:55,100 --> 05:10:58,100
conversation with you all today to seek

5782
05:10:58,100 --> 05:11:00,100
further feedback but obviously open to any

5783
05:11:00,100 --> 05:11:04,201
questions or any area of feedback. I

5784
05:11:08,100 --> 05:11:10,100
appreciate your attention and welcome

5785
05:11:10,100 --> 05:11:11,100
comments.

5786
05:11:11,100 --> 05:11:14,100
>> start with cindy and then june.

5787
05:11:14,100 --> 05:11:18,801
>> thank you for all the hard work. Staff

5788
05:11:19,100 --> 05:11:22,601
has done outreach and spent countless

5789
05:11:23,100 --> 05:11:25,100
hours in our community because this is so

5790
05:11:25,100 --> 05:11:28,100
critical to our north shore economy but I

5791
05:11:28,100 --> 05:11:29,100
did have a couple questions on the data

5792
05:11:29,100 --> 05:11:34,100
and this might be for you or bae. Did the

5793
05:11:34,100 --> 05:11:38,100
data for the exempt properties show up in

5794
05:11:38,100 --> 05:11:41,100
the occupancy numbers and revenue numbers

5795
05:11:41,100 --> 05:11:44,100
you show in these charts? Do you know?

5796
05:11:44,100 --> 05:11:48,100
>> I know aaron is on but yes. The

5797
05:11:48,100 --> 05:11:49,100
exempt-

5798
05:11:49,100 --> 05:11:51,100
>> so that included that. And as you know

5799
05:11:51,100 --> 05:11:54,601
we have gotten tremendous number of

5800
05:11:55,100 --> 05:11:58,100
e-mails and comments from north star

5801
05:11:58,100 --> 05:12:00,100
condos I believe were exempted last time

5802
05:12:00,100 --> 05:12:04,201
and you are suggesting no longer be

5803
05:12:06,100 --> 05:12:07,100
exempt, is that correct?

5804
05:12:07,100 --> 05:12:09,100
>> correct, any residential use we are

5805
05:12:09,100 --> 05:12:11,100
suggesting they be pulled into the

5806
05:12:11,100 --> 05:12:14,100
ordinance requirements. If it operates

5807
05:12:16,100 --> 05:12:18,100
like a hotel motel it is assessed as a

5808
05:12:18,100 --> 05:12:21,100
hotel motel and permitted that way they

5809
05:12:21,100 --> 05:12:24,100
are not subject to the ordinance.

5810
05:12:24,100 --> 05:12:25,100
>> great. I want to make sure that is

5811
05:12:25,100 --> 05:12:28,100
clear because I read all the comments and

5812
05:12:28,100 --> 05:12:32,100
will have other comments but we received a

5813
05:12:32,100 --> 05:12:35,100
slug from that group and not other groups

5814
05:12:35,100 --> 05:12:38,601
because they have already been complying.

5815
05:12:39,100 --> 05:12:43,801
this group was due to some judgment issues

5816
05:12:45,100 --> 05:12:47,100
that-anyway, but there is many other

5817
05:12:47,100 --> 05:12:50,601
condominiums that haven't been exempt we

5818
05:12:51,100 --> 05:12:52,100
haven't heard as much from.

5819
05:12:52,100 --> 05:12:55,100
>> just to add more detail to that. As

5820
05:12:55,100 --> 05:12:57,100
crystal mentioned this is a area of the

5821
05:12:57,100 --> 05:13:01,100
code that is very gray and the

5822
05:13:01,100 --> 05:13:04,100
requirements are that if somebody thinks

5823
05:13:04,100 --> 05:13:06,100
they are exempt from the ordinance they

5824
05:13:06,100 --> 05:13:08,100
apply for us to verify that and think that

5825
05:13:08,100 --> 05:13:10,100
is confusing so think there is a lot of

5826
05:13:10,100 --> 05:13:13,100
properties out there that read the code

5827
05:13:13,100 --> 05:13:15,100
and believe they are exempt without coming

5828
05:13:15,100 --> 05:13:17,100
to us for determination. Just to put that

5829
05:13:17,100 --> 05:13:18,100
out there as well.

5830
05:13:18,100 --> 05:13:21,100
>> right. Right. And I don't know if all

5831
05:13:21,100 --> 05:13:25,100
the other ones know that some were exempt

5832
05:13:25,100 --> 05:13:28,100
and some weren't and [inaudible comments]

5833
05:13:28,100 --> 05:13:31,100
I just was trying to understand why that

5834
05:13:31,100 --> 05:13:33,100
particular group and part of it is that

5835
05:13:33,100 --> 05:13:36,100
you did meet with them in particular and

5836
05:13:36,100 --> 05:13:38,100
reach out to them but there is other

5837
05:13:38,100 --> 05:13:41,100
exempted properties that may not have

5838
05:13:41,100 --> 05:13:43,100
known to write e-mails to us. Set the

5839
05:13:43,100 --> 05:13:47,801
stage for that. The vacancy data the home

5840
05:13:48,100 --> 05:13:51,100
owner vacancy data is two years old. How

5841
05:13:51,100 --> 05:13:55,100
often can we update that data? This will

5842
05:13:55,100 --> 05:13:59,100
go to some of my later comments. Right

5843
05:13:59,100 --> 05:14:01,100
now it goes through 2019 and we know the

5844
05:14:01,100 --> 05:14:05,801
big slug of change happened in the last 2

5845
05:14:08,100 --> 05:14:11,100
years so when you look at home owner use-I

5846
05:14:11,100 --> 05:14:13,100
can't remember the title but it is based

5847
05:14:13,100 --> 05:14:17,100
on the acs data, american community survey

5848
05:14:17,100 --> 05:14:18,100
data.

5849
05:14:18,100 --> 05:14:20,100
>> maybe we can look to aaron.

5850
05:14:20,100 --> 05:14:24,100
>> how often would we get the data to

5851
05:14:24,100 --> 05:14:25,100
monitor that?

5852
05:14:25,100 --> 05:14:28,601
>> publications of census based data come

5853
05:14:29,100 --> 05:14:31,100
out essentially every year, but they are

5854
05:14:31,100 --> 05:14:33,100
usually

5855
05:14:33,100 --> 05:14:35,100
[audio cutting out]

5856
05:14:41,100 --> 05:14:44,100
>> I bet what you are telling me is census

5857
05:14:44,100 --> 05:14:48,100
data we get a year in delay?

5858
05:14:48,100 --> 05:14:51,100
>> it takes time for them to collect that

5859
05:14:51,100 --> 05:14:54,100
data process data and get it summarized

5860
05:14:54,100 --> 05:14:56,100
for publication.

5861
05:14:56,100 --> 05:15:00,100
>> but we could start tracking and do some

5862
05:15:00,100 --> 05:15:04,201
sort of adaptive model to look at

5863
05:15:06,100 --> 05:15:09,601
occupancy as we build housing-and then

5864
05:15:12,100 --> 05:15:14,100
quite often I know you mentioned safety

5865
05:15:14,100 --> 05:15:17,100
but quite often we talk about nuisances

5866
05:15:17,100 --> 05:15:19,100
but the nuisances also relate to safety

5867
05:15:19,100 --> 05:15:22,100
for instance the open fire people report

5868
05:15:22,100 --> 05:15:26,801
on red flag days, are those categorized as

5869
05:15:28,100 --> 05:15:32,801
nuisance or safety? I want to remind the

5870
05:15:34,100 --> 05:15:37,100
board we started on real health and safety

5871
05:15:37,100 --> 05:15:40,100
issues as well as nuisances and those get

5872
05:15:40,100 --> 05:15:43,100
reported and just not sure how they are

5873
05:15:43,100 --> 05:15:45,100
categorized like a open fire.

5874
05:15:45,100 --> 05:15:48,100
>> they are categorized as complaint

5875
05:15:51,100 --> 05:15:55,801
tracked as a complaint. We lost our slide

5876
05:16:04,100 --> 05:16:06,401
deck. Sorry about that.

5877
05:16:07,100 --> 05:16:10,100
>> that's okay. In general I just want to

5878
05:16:10,100 --> 05:16:13,100
make sure we try to understand that there

5879
05:16:13,100 --> 05:16:15,100
are health and safety issues that get

5880
05:16:15,100 --> 05:16:18,100
reported by neighbors concerned about fire

5881
05:16:18,100 --> 05:16:21,601
pits open fires, people not understanding

5882
05:16:22,100 --> 05:16:24,100
red flag warnings.

5883
05:16:25,100 --> 05:16:27,100
>> what I was going to pull up I think is

5884
05:16:27,100 --> 05:16:31,801
supposed to be hidden in the back here.

5885
05:16:32,100 --> 05:16:33,100
>> the last slides?

5886
05:16:33,100 --> 05:16:35,100
>> yeah.

5887
05:16:36,100 --> 05:16:40,100
>> I think they are in the back if it-

5888
05:16:40,100 --> 05:16:43,100
>> it isn't important what is important is

5889
05:16:43,100 --> 05:16:45,100
you hear there are a lot of public safety

5890
05:16:45,100 --> 05:16:47,100
issues intertwined with nuisance because

5891
05:16:47,100 --> 05:16:50,100
sometimes nuisance is diminished like it

5892
05:16:50,100 --> 05:16:52,100
is a subjective call. I think for those

5893
05:16:52,100 --> 05:16:56,801
of us living in fire prone areas and

5894
05:16:58,100 --> 05:17:00,100
people not paying attention that is much

5895
05:17:00,100 --> 05:17:01,100
more then-

5896
05:17:01,100 --> 05:17:03,100
>> right, and with those complaints we

5897
05:17:03,100 --> 05:17:05,100
take notes about every complaint so we are

5898
05:17:05,100 --> 05:17:08,100
tracking what type of complaint we get. I

5899
05:17:08,100 --> 05:17:10,100
have to look at the slide to see. I'm

5900
05:17:10,100 --> 05:17:13,100
pretty sure life safety issues is called

5901
05:17:13,100 --> 05:17:15,100
out in our-yes.

5902
05:17:17,100 --> 05:17:19,100
>> it doesn't have-

5903
05:17:20,100 --> 05:17:24,100
>> it has noise is 49 percent. It does

5904
05:17:24,100 --> 05:17:28,201
not have like fire safety. Probably falls

5905
05:17:29,100 --> 05:17:32,100
under other, which is 15 percent.

5906
05:17:36,100 --> 05:17:38,100
>> I heard from a large number of people

5907
05:17:38,100 --> 05:17:41,100
yesterday I e-mailed you a couple where

5908
05:17:41,100 --> 05:17:44,100
people dont seem to--they look at the

5909
05:17:44,100 --> 05:17:46,100
total complaints we received and say that

5910
05:17:46,100 --> 05:17:48,100
is de minimus, but then I hear from the

5911
05:17:48,100 --> 05:17:50,100
community there is far more, they don't

5912
05:17:50,100 --> 05:17:53,100
know who to call, people second home

5913
05:17:53,100 --> 05:17:57,100
owners don't know who to call. Do you

5914
05:17:57,100 --> 05:17:59,100
hear that as well or is that my office

5915
05:17:59,100 --> 05:18:01,100
hearing-

5916
05:18:01,100 --> 05:18:05,100
>> I do hear that and constantly e-mailing

5917
05:18:05,100 --> 05:18:09,801
folks with information. What we can do is

5918
05:18:11,100 --> 05:18:13,100
a campaign to help educate folks. I think

5919
05:18:13,100 --> 05:18:15,100
there is a need for better communication

5920
05:18:15,100 --> 05:18:17,100
and pushing stuff out through the pio

5921
05:18:17,100 --> 05:18:21,100
office to get the word out about our

5922
05:18:21,100 --> 05:18:23,100
hotline and the resources that are there

5923
05:18:23,100 --> 05:18:26,100
to respond to these kinds of complaints.

5924
05:18:26,100 --> 05:18:27,100
>> okay.

5925
05:18:27,100 --> 05:18:31,801
>> there is a requirement for a point of

5926
05:18:32,100 --> 05:18:33,100
contact so people may call property

5927
05:18:33,100 --> 05:18:36,601
managers, they may call specific contacts.

5928
05:18:38,100 --> 05:18:40,100
the question is does it really get to the

5929
05:18:40,100 --> 05:18:43,100
county and do we get to tag it.

5930
05:18:43,100 --> 05:18:44,100
>> right.

5931
05:18:44,100 --> 05:18:46,100
>> I think a lot of people are weigh in

5932
05:18:46,100 --> 05:18:48,100
that we only had this many complaints and

5933
05:18:48,100 --> 05:18:50,100
total there is a very few complaints and

5934
05:18:50,100 --> 05:18:52,100
yet I think if you walk around our

5935
05:18:52,100 --> 05:18:55,100
community and talk to individuals they all

5936
05:18:55,100 --> 05:18:59,100
have stories about even the gentlemen that

5937
05:18:59,100 --> 05:19:03,100
we tracked down yesterday one licensed one

5938
05:19:03,100 --> 05:19:05,100
not, how do we make sure that person who

5939
05:19:05,100 --> 05:19:07,100
was a educated member of our community

5940
05:19:07,100 --> 05:19:10,100
didn't know or hadn't called and I said

5941
05:19:10,100 --> 05:19:14,100
why didn't you call? Those are-there is

5942
05:19:14,100 --> 05:19:16,100
some responsibility there. And then I

5943
05:19:16,100 --> 05:19:19,100
think another question I had on the data,

5944
05:19:19,100 --> 05:19:24,100
so in the chart I think that nick prepared

5945
05:19:24,100 --> 05:19:27,100
to the other jurisdictions. Currently

5946
05:19:27,100 --> 05:19:29,100
from everything I have seen the only other

5947
05:19:29,100 --> 05:19:32,601
community with the high percentage of

5948
05:19:33,100 --> 05:19:37,201
housing stock to str is cresta butte

5949
05:19:39,100 --> 05:19:41,100
colorado. Everyone else is far below the

5950
05:19:41,100 --> 05:19:44,100
housing stock being absorbed by short-term

5951
05:19:44,100 --> 05:19:45,100
rentals.

5952
05:19:45,100 --> 05:19:46,100
>> correct.

5953
05:19:46,100 --> 05:19:49,100
>> cresta butte and everyone else is far

5954
05:19:49,100 --> 05:19:51,100
less from what I can tell from this chart.

5955
05:19:51,100 --> 05:19:52,100
>> correct.

5956
05:19:52,100 --> 05:19:56,201
>> the research done. And then in several

5957
05:19:57,100 --> 05:19:59,100
communities instead of just fines they

5958
05:19:59,100 --> 05:20:02,100
actually revoked permits immediately or

5959
05:20:03,100 --> 05:20:06,601
two year suspension, and I just-I'm

5960
05:20:07,100 --> 05:20:09,100
putting comments out for the public to

5961
05:20:09,100 --> 05:20:11,100
react to because I do think we heard we

5962
05:20:11,100 --> 05:20:14,100
want stricter standard. It seems

5963
05:20:15,100 --> 05:20:17,100
everybody is in agreement bad actors need

5964
05:20:17,100 --> 05:20:19,100
and when they make $35 thousand if they

5965
05:20:19,100 --> 05:20:22,100
pay a $5 thousand fine it is not a big

5966
05:20:22,100 --> 05:20:25,100
deal, but if you're potentially taking

5967
05:20:25,100 --> 05:20:28,100
away $35 thousand worth of revenue they

5968
05:20:28,100 --> 05:20:30,100
may do more to address their nuisance

5969
05:20:30,100 --> 05:20:34,801
issues. I like to hear feedback and staff

5970
05:20:36,100 --> 05:20:39,100
to look at the suspensions and there's I

5971
05:20:39,100 --> 05:20:43,201
think santa cruz, and el dorado county.

5972
05:20:45,100 --> 05:20:48,601
cresta butte and jackson wyoming that

5973
05:20:50,100 --> 05:20:53,601
proposed 2 up to 5 year suspension because

5974
05:20:55,100 --> 05:20:57,100
I think the discussion is getting a lot of

5975
05:20:57,100 --> 05:21:00,100
interest in people finding compliance and

5976
05:21:00,100 --> 05:21:02,100
being in compliance because they don't

5977
05:21:02,100 --> 05:21:03,100
want to lose their permit so I urge that

5978
05:21:03,100 --> 05:21:07,100
and us to continue to track that part of

5979
05:21:07,100 --> 05:21:09,100
our housing stock. And then another

5980
05:21:09,100 --> 05:21:13,801
comment for our public to think about is

5981
05:21:14,100 --> 05:21:18,100
I'm-I have always been open to looking at

5982
05:21:18,100 --> 05:21:23,100
what's our cap now and how many could we

5983
05:21:23,100 --> 05:21:27,100
expand that to insure turnover so we start

5984
05:21:27,100 --> 05:21:30,100
to insure that there is turnover along

5985
05:21:30,100 --> 05:21:34,100
with that you must use that permit. So,

5986
05:21:34,100 --> 05:21:37,100
there is minimum number of nights using it

5987
05:21:37,100 --> 05:21:39,100
you are not sitting on the permit keeping

5988
05:21:39,100 --> 05:21:41,100
somebody else from having the opportunity

5989
05:21:41,100 --> 05:21:44,100
while you for more then is that a 1 year

5990
05:21:44,100 --> 05:21:47,100
or 2 year, I like to hear how other

5991
05:21:47,100 --> 05:21:48,100
jurisdictions have dealt with that so we

5992
05:21:48,100 --> 05:21:51,100
insure turn over of these if there is a

5993
05:21:51,100 --> 05:21:54,100
cap and so I love to hear public comment

5994
05:21:54,100 --> 05:21:58,201
on that. And I'm not particularly in

5995
05:22:01,100 --> 05:22:03,100
favor of the waiting period but that is

5996
05:22:03,100 --> 05:22:06,100
because I think it will be hard to get

5997
05:22:06,100 --> 05:22:08,100
there. I would be more in favor of trying

5998
05:22:08,100 --> 05:22:11,100
to find a cap that maybe is adjusted

5999
05:22:11,100 --> 05:22:14,100
higher but looks at the numbers it is hard

6000
05:22:14,100 --> 05:22:18,201
to judge. If we have 2500 permitted but 5

6001
05:22:19,100 --> 05:22:21,100
thousand tot certificates what is the

6002
05:22:21,100 --> 05:22:23,100
right number? Have none of the 5 thousand

6003
05:22:23,100 --> 05:22:26,100
come forward to try to get permits?

6004
05:22:26,100 --> 05:22:28,100
>> probably half are exempt.

6005
05:22:28,100 --> 05:22:29,100
>> okay.

6006
05:22:29,100 --> 05:22:31,100
>> exactly. Just explain the difference.

6007
05:22:31,100 --> 05:22:35,801
the 2500 are the permits we have for str.

6008
05:22:36,100 --> 05:22:39,100
if you jump to that-let me get this slide

6009
05:22:39,100 --> 05:22:41,100
back up here. If you jump to the next

6010
05:22:41,100 --> 05:22:45,201
tier in the slide, those are the 4420.

6011
05:22:47,100 --> 05:22:51,201
those are incompass the str, the 2500 plus

6012
05:22:53,100 --> 05:22:55,401
potential exemptions so property-

6013
05:22:57,100 --> 05:22:59,100
>> 28 percent of the housing market and

6014
05:22:59,100 --> 05:23:01,100
then when we go to the 38 percent what are

6015
05:23:01,100 --> 05:23:02,100
those?

6016
05:23:02,100 --> 05:23:06,100
>> those are tot certificates. So all the

6017
05:23:06,100 --> 05:23:08,100
certificates whether they are remitting

6018
05:23:08,100 --> 05:23:12,801
tot so active or have a tot certificate

6019
05:23:13,100 --> 05:23:15,100
and not active. They can have a

6020
05:23:15,100 --> 05:23:18,100
certificate and not rent not remit tot but

6021
05:23:18,100 --> 05:23:20,100
they have the certificate so that last bar

6022
05:23:20,100 --> 05:23:24,100
shows you the potential that if all of

6023
05:23:24,100 --> 05:23:28,100
those 5800 were to want to rent they can

6024
05:23:28,100 --> 05:23:31,100
turn on tomorrow and rent. That is the

6025
05:23:31,100 --> 05:23:34,601
potential with those tot certificates. I

6026
05:23:35,100 --> 05:23:37,100
dont know if we have dug into whether all

6027
05:23:37,100 --> 05:23:40,100
those are exempt or whether they would

6028
05:23:40,100 --> 05:23:44,801
need a str but the differential between it

6029
05:23:45,100 --> 05:23:47,100
last 2 are whether they are actively

6030
05:23:47,100 --> 05:23:48,100
renting or not.

6031
05:23:48,100 --> 05:23:50,100
>> if we were to set a number that

6032
05:23:50,100 --> 05:23:53,100
included went to the middle column there,

6033
05:23:53,100 --> 05:23:56,100
4420, and added a buffer right now I

6034
05:23:56,100 --> 05:23:58,100
understand there is about 75 on a wait

6035
05:23:58,100 --> 05:24:00,100
list?

6036
05:24:00,100 --> 05:24:01,100
>> yeah, 77.

6037
05:24:01,100 --> 05:24:05,100
>> 77 on a wait list. And so that might

6038
05:24:05,100 --> 05:24:07,100
be something for the board to consider

6039
05:24:07,100 --> 05:24:09,100
because I do hear from a lot of people

6040
05:24:09,100 --> 05:24:13,100
that want the opportunity, caught in the

6041
05:24:13,100 --> 05:24:15,100
middle. Didn't understand they needed a

6042
05:24:15,100 --> 05:24:19,100
permit. I want to include all those

6043
05:24:19,100 --> 05:24:22,100
exempted that get permitted because it was

6044
05:24:22,100 --> 05:24:24,100
their issue they are exempted and say they

6045
05:24:24,100 --> 05:24:28,801
are not. Should we have some level to

6046
05:24:30,100 --> 05:24:34,801
allow people to see that turnover and then

6047
05:24:35,100 --> 05:24:37,100
finally I want it to be in an adaptive

6048
05:24:37,100 --> 05:24:39,100
program so we could track how we are

6049
05:24:39,100 --> 05:24:42,100
delivering on housing. Are we addressing

6050
05:24:42,100 --> 05:24:45,100
this crisis in our community that we can

6051
05:24:45,100 --> 05:24:48,100
serve visitors? We hear e-mails about we

6052
05:24:48,100 --> 05:24:50,100
can rent but if there is no one to serve

6053
05:24:50,100 --> 05:24:54,801
food or wash dishes or clean or paint

6054
05:24:56,100 --> 05:24:58,100
condos we can't serve these people and

6055
05:24:58,100 --> 05:25:00,100
there is frustration and anger that

6056
05:25:00,100 --> 05:25:03,100
creates a division I have never seen in 40

6057
05:25:03,100 --> 05:25:05,100
years living there. I like adaptive

6058
05:25:05,100 --> 05:25:08,100
management and as painful as it is to go

6059
05:25:08,100 --> 05:25:10,100
through this, it seems like there should

6060
05:25:10,100 --> 05:25:14,100
be a formula as we deliver housing or see

6061
05:25:14,100 --> 05:25:17,100
housing changes we adjust whatever cap

6062
05:25:17,100 --> 05:25:19,100
numbers are set up and we learn as we go

6063
05:25:19,100 --> 05:25:23,100
because we have been learning every step

6064
05:25:23,100 --> 05:25:25,100
of the way since we started this. Anyway,

6065
05:25:25,100 --> 05:25:27,100
I wanted to get that out mr. Chair because

6066
05:25:27,100 --> 05:25:30,100
the public may have-I love to hear where

6067
05:25:30,100 --> 05:25:32,100
my colleagues feel but also where the

6068
05:25:32,100 --> 05:25:35,100
public weighs in. I have been asking some

6069
05:25:35,100 --> 05:25:37,100
of the properties owners who contacted me

6070
05:25:37,100 --> 05:25:41,100
how many more? What is the tolerance, 50

6071
05:25:41,100 --> 05:25:43,401
percent short-term rental, 80 percent?

6072
05:25:45,100 --> 05:25:47,100
where the balancing act to deliver on

6073
05:25:47,100 --> 05:25:49,401
services versus allowing short-term

6074
05:25:50,100 --> 05:25:53,100
rentals? That's the balance I'm

6075
05:25:53,100 --> 05:25:56,100
struggling with. Love to hear feedback on

6076
05:25:56,100 --> 05:25:57,100
that.

6077
05:25:57,100 --> 05:25:59,100
>> jim then suzanne.

6078
05:26:00,100 --> 05:26:04,100
>> well, thank you for all the hard work

6079
05:26:04,100 --> 05:26:06,100
on this. I know it has been real

6080
05:26:06,100 --> 05:26:09,100
challenge. A lot of outreach particularly

6081
05:26:09,100 --> 05:26:13,100
in the district 5. Is this the end of

6082
05:26:13,100 --> 05:26:15,100
your public outreach other then people

6083
05:26:15,100 --> 05:26:18,601
that will start contacting for more

6084
05:26:19,100 --> 05:26:21,100
information?

6085
05:26:21,100 --> 05:26:25,801
>> no, this isn't the end of outreach. We

6086
05:26:28,100 --> 05:26:30,100
are hoping to seek direction from you

6087
05:26:30,100 --> 05:26:32,100
today and frame up our final

6088
05:26:32,100 --> 05:26:35,100
recommendations on the ordinances. We

6089
05:26:35,100 --> 05:26:37,100
will bring that before a number of

6090
05:26:37,100 --> 05:26:40,100
community groups through january before we

6091
05:26:40,100 --> 05:26:42,100
come back to your board for action.

6092
05:26:42,100 --> 05:26:45,100
>> so, you have it down at the next steps

6093
05:26:45,100 --> 05:26:47,100
is january 2022?

6094
05:26:47,100 --> 05:26:48,100
>> yes.

6095
05:26:48,100 --> 05:26:49,100
>> for board action?

6096
05:26:49,100 --> 05:26:50,100
>> correct.

6097
05:26:50,100 --> 05:26:51,100
>> do you have time to do that?

6098
05:26:51,100 --> 05:26:56,100
>> it is a very short window. That is our

6099
05:26:56,100 --> 05:27:00,100
target at this point but we-we have framed

6100
05:27:00,100 --> 05:27:02,100
up quite a bit of ordinance modification

6101
05:27:02,100 --> 05:27:06,100
with the exception of a couple pieces we

6102
05:27:06,100 --> 05:27:09,100
need to finish up and dig into.

6103
05:27:09,100 --> 05:27:12,100
>> supervisor gustafson you have been

6104
05:27:15,100 --> 05:27:18,601
living these 2 years now. You were

6105
05:27:19,100 --> 05:27:23,100
starting on a call with--so I know it is a

6106
05:27:23,100 --> 05:27:25,100
really tremendous challenge and I just

6107
05:27:25,100 --> 05:27:28,100
appreciate your hard work on this because

6108
05:27:28,100 --> 05:27:31,100
a lot of constituents up there really

6109
05:27:31,100 --> 05:27:34,100
concerned. Let's hope we get it right.

6110
05:27:34,100 --> 05:27:35,100
>> suzanne.

6111
05:27:35,100 --> 05:27:38,601
>> yes, hi. Thanks for the presentation.

6112
05:27:39,100 --> 05:27:41,100
very good. I wanted to mention a couple

6113
05:27:41,100 --> 05:27:45,100
of things that I know I did the other day

6114
05:27:45,100 --> 05:27:49,100
at our briefing, but there was a finding

6115
05:27:49,100 --> 05:27:53,100
here by your team you hired that shows

6116
05:27:53,100 --> 05:27:55,100
where there is a move towards increase

6117
05:27:55,100 --> 05:27:59,801
investor activity, and so for me, I know

6118
05:28:01,100 --> 05:28:04,100
concerns in the community are your that a

6119
05:28:04,100 --> 05:28:08,100
lot of those short-term rentals may gobble

6120
05:28:08,100 --> 05:28:12,100
up your housing availability. And so it

6121
05:28:12,100 --> 05:28:15,100
is a thought that maybe there's some way

6122
05:28:15,100 --> 05:28:18,100
of limiting those that can be purchased

6123
05:28:18,100 --> 05:28:22,100
for investment only. I know I understand

6124
05:28:22,100 --> 05:28:24,100
people go up and buy a second house

6125
05:28:24,100 --> 05:28:27,100
because they want to live there eventually

6126
05:28:27,100 --> 05:28:31,801
retire and move in or whatever, but for

6127
05:28:32,100 --> 05:28:35,100
investors to move in and think this is a

6128
05:28:35,100 --> 05:28:37,100
great opportunity buy up everything there

6129
05:28:37,100 --> 05:28:40,100
you are really going to be in a hurt for

6130
05:28:40,100 --> 05:28:44,201
availability of housing. I express my r

6131
05:28:51,100 --> 05:28:55,100
by the 2 tier permitting fees. I think

6132
05:28:55,100 --> 05:28:58,100
everybody should be on the same footage.

6133
05:28:58,100 --> 05:29:00,100
I think that in addition to if you have

6134
05:29:00,100 --> 05:29:03,100
people that violate that maybe there some

6135
05:29:03,100 --> 05:29:06,100
sort of step where you violate once okay,

6136
05:29:06,100 --> 05:29:10,100
you get a warning, maybe a fine but step 2

6137
05:29:10,100 --> 05:29:13,100
you get a warning and fine but now your

6138
05:29:13,100 --> 05:29:16,100
permitting fees are going up. And have a

6139
05:29:16,100 --> 05:29:18,100
scaled level for those permitting fees

6140
05:29:18,100 --> 05:29:22,100
because your violators should pay more in

6141
05:29:22,100 --> 05:29:25,100
permitting fees. I don't think it should

6142
05:29:25,100 --> 05:29:27,100
be if you got this person owns a house and

6143
05:29:27,100 --> 05:29:31,100
they have a property manager and he owns a

6144
05:29:31,100 --> 05:29:33,100
house and manage themselves to say that

6145
05:29:33,100 --> 05:29:36,100
one is going to be better then the other

6146
05:29:36,100 --> 05:29:38,100
we already experienced one of the property

6147
05:29:38,100 --> 05:29:42,100
management people did not adhere to your

6148
05:29:42,100 --> 05:29:45,100
regulations several months back, remember?

6149
05:29:46,100 --> 05:29:49,100
so, they are not always perfect and I

6150
05:29:49,100 --> 05:29:52,100
understand that regular privately owned

6151
05:29:53,100 --> 05:29:56,100
property maybe are not perfect either but

6152
05:29:56,100 --> 05:30:00,100
I don't like the two tier permitting fee.

6153
05:30:00,100 --> 05:30:04,201
curious about the-I don't really like the

6154
05:30:05,100 --> 05:30:08,100
2 tier scheduled for fire inspections

6155
05:30:08,100 --> 05:30:11,100
either. The privately owned versus

6156
05:30:12,100 --> 05:30:16,100
property managed because I just think fire

6157
05:30:16,100 --> 05:30:19,100
inspections should be extremely important

6158
05:30:19,100 --> 05:30:21,100
and make sure everybody has everything

6159
05:30:21,100 --> 05:30:24,601
that they need whether inside fire

6160
05:30:26,100 --> 05:30:29,100
hazards, outside fire hazard, smoke

6161
05:30:31,100 --> 05:30:34,100
detectors and carbon monoxide detectors

6162
05:30:34,100 --> 05:30:38,100
and all that stuff. So, I just think that

6163
05:30:38,100 --> 05:30:41,100
everybody should be on the same schedule.

6164
05:30:41,100 --> 05:30:43,100
maybe every other year or something

6165
05:30:43,100 --> 05:30:46,100
because how can you say this property

6166
05:30:46,100 --> 05:30:48,100
doesn't need to be inspected for fire for

6167
05:30:48,100 --> 05:30:52,100
every 3 or so years but this one needs to

6168
05:30:52,100 --> 05:30:54,100
be inspected every year? That doesn't

6169
05:30:54,100 --> 05:30:58,801
seem equitable to me. I then on your

6170
05:31:00,100 --> 05:31:01,100
postings I don't know you may already do

6171
05:31:01,100 --> 05:31:04,100
this, but on your postings I'm wondering

6172
05:31:04,100 --> 05:31:06,100
do you have all the numbers listed for

6173
05:31:06,100 --> 05:31:09,601
fire, police complaints your hot line

6174
05:31:10,100 --> 05:31:12,100
etcetera because you have to have it

6175
05:31:12,100 --> 05:31:15,100
posted on the inside, posted on outside

6176
05:31:15,100 --> 05:31:18,100
because say someone maybe there is smoke

6177
05:31:18,100 --> 05:31:22,100
coming from the place and who ever is

6178
05:31:22,100 --> 05:31:24,100
renting are skiing or at the lake and the

6179
05:31:24,100 --> 05:31:27,100
neighbor sees it and if they go to the

6180
05:31:27,100 --> 05:31:28,100
house they see the posting and find the

6181
05:31:28,100 --> 05:31:31,100
numbers they could call. Easy they don't

6182
05:31:31,100 --> 05:31:33,100
have to go home google it and do whatever

6183
05:31:33,100 --> 05:31:37,801
and the same time your renters have it

6184
05:31:39,100 --> 05:31:43,801
also. You may already do that. And we

6185
05:31:44,100 --> 05:31:47,601
talked earlier too about penalties and

6186
05:31:48,100 --> 05:31:52,100
fines, agree they need to have teeth. It

6187
05:31:52,100 --> 05:31:54,100
has to be something whether you have a

6188
05:31:54,100 --> 05:31:57,601
tiered fine and fees for complaints

6189
05:32:00,100 --> 05:32:02,100
etcetera that maybe eventually at some

6190
05:32:02,100 --> 05:32:05,100
point you have revocations suspension that

6191
05:32:05,100 --> 05:32:10,100
sort of thing in your tool box as well.

6192
05:32:10,100 --> 05:32:12,100
do the suspensions work because I mean you

6193
05:32:12,100 --> 05:32:14,100
probably get some people who are like I

6194
05:32:14,100 --> 05:32:16,100
paid a lot of money for this place, I

6195
05:32:16,100 --> 05:32:19,100
don't care if they suspend my permit I

6196
05:32:19,100 --> 05:32:21,100
will still rent it. Do you get much of

6197
05:32:21,100 --> 05:32:22,100
that?

6198
05:32:22,100 --> 05:32:25,100
>> we have not issued suspensions to date,

6199
05:32:25,100 --> 05:32:27,100
so being a brand new program I don't know

6200
05:32:27,100 --> 05:32:29,100
I can answer that question, but there is

6201
05:32:29,100 --> 05:32:33,100
always I think there are always bad actors

6202
05:32:33,100 --> 05:32:36,100
that are renting without a permit. We

6203
05:32:36,100 --> 05:32:38,100
know that. It is possible.

6204
05:32:38,100 --> 05:32:42,201
>> yeah. And so in your rental or

6205
05:32:45,100 --> 05:32:47,100
permitting documents, do you have

6206
05:32:47,100 --> 05:32:49,100
somewhere like at the bottom of the thing

6207
05:32:49,100 --> 05:32:53,100
that says along with this completed rental

6208
05:32:53,100 --> 05:32:56,100
application includes your tot certificate

6209
05:32:57,100 --> 05:33:00,100
or this or that fire inspection, is the

6210
05:33:00,100 --> 05:33:02,100
all in that document so when somebody

6211
05:33:02,100 --> 05:33:05,100
thinks they submitted their application

6212
05:33:05,100 --> 05:33:08,100
for a permit it is on there so they can't

6213
05:33:08,100 --> 05:33:10,100
say I didn't know?

6214
05:33:10,100 --> 05:33:12,100
>>b it is and actually after the

6215
05:33:12,100 --> 05:33:14,100
experience we had earlier this year with

6216
05:33:14,100 --> 05:33:16,100
the appeal that went to your board we

6217
05:33:16,100 --> 05:33:19,100
updated that document to include

6218
05:33:20,100 --> 05:33:23,601
additional items as requested by the

6219
05:33:24,100 --> 05:33:25,100
board.

6220
05:33:25,100 --> 05:33:28,100
>> since last spring with you first

6221
05:33:28,100 --> 05:33:31,100
brought this to the board I see a lot of

6222
05:33:31,100 --> 05:33:33,100
improvement and work you have done so

6223
05:33:33,100 --> 05:33:37,100
kudos to all you for a job well done.

6224
05:33:37,100 --> 05:33:38,100
thank you.

6225
05:33:38,100 --> 05:33:39,100
>> bonnie.

6226
05:33:39,100 --> 05:33:42,601
>> thank you. Appreciate your work. So,

6227
05:33:43,100 --> 05:33:45,100
as I have been thinking about this this is

6228
05:33:45,100 --> 05:33:48,100
really challenging and supervisor holmes

6229
05:33:48,100 --> 05:33:52,100
said, cindy this is a lot of work and just

6230
05:33:52,100 --> 05:33:54,100
reading through all the documentation the

6231
05:33:54,100 --> 05:33:58,100
other day to be a good amount of time. I

6232
05:33:58,100 --> 05:33:59,100
thought about a couple things. What are

6233
05:33:59,100 --> 05:34:02,100
we really trying to address it is really

6234
05:34:02,100 --> 05:34:05,601
clear we have nuisance issues. Concerned

6235
05:34:09,100 --> 05:34:11,100
about parking and noise and we have to

6236
05:34:11,100 --> 05:34:12,100
address enforcement and talk about

6237
05:34:12,100 --> 05:34:14,100
penalties. I think that will go a long

6238
05:34:14,100 --> 05:34:17,100
way to keep the bad actors in line and

6239
05:34:17,100 --> 05:34:20,100
think we heard that from our residents a

6240
05:34:20,100 --> 05:34:22,100
lot of the feedback so I really think that

6241
05:34:22,100 --> 05:34:24,100
is important. The other reason I think

6242
05:34:24,100 --> 05:34:28,100
this has come about is because we want to

6243
05:34:28,100 --> 05:34:31,100
address workforce housing which is why I

6244
05:34:31,100 --> 05:34:35,100
asked you to know what effort we have been

6245
05:34:35,100 --> 05:34:37,100
doing to address workforce housing. There

6246
05:34:37,100 --> 05:34:40,100
is a number of efforts the opportunity to

6247
05:34:40,100 --> 05:34:43,100
do deed restrictions through our housing

6248
05:34:43,100 --> 05:34:45,100
program I think is great. The challenge

6249
05:34:45,100 --> 05:34:49,100
with this is that the properties are

6250
05:34:49,100 --> 05:34:53,100
already so high. The cost to buy in this

6251
05:34:53,100 --> 05:34:57,801
area is already so high that a normal

6252
05:34:58,100 --> 05:35:01,100
working person couldn't afford to buy a

6253
05:35:01,100 --> 05:35:05,100
home and live in the basin. And so, I

6254
05:35:05,100 --> 05:35:07,100
look at this and go, how are we going to

6255
05:35:07,100 --> 05:35:10,100
address workforce housing? I couldn't

6256
05:35:10,100 --> 05:35:13,100
afford a $900 thousand home, and I don't

6257
05:35:13,100 --> 05:35:16,100
make a lot of money. I make a decent

6258
05:35:16,100 --> 05:35:18,100
salary, I don't make a lot of money so the

6259
05:35:18,100 --> 05:35:20,100
challenge is how do we address this? I'm

6260
05:35:20,100 --> 05:35:24,100
looking at the needs for long-term or

6261
05:35:24,100 --> 05:35:27,601
long-term rentals for our ski industry,

6262
05:35:28,100 --> 05:35:30,100
for the summer time. How do we incent

6263
05:35:30,100 --> 05:35:34,100
vise that so that people would if they

6264
05:35:34,100 --> 05:35:36,100
have a second home they could rent out

6265
05:35:36,100 --> 05:35:40,100
their home for 5, 6 months at a time and

6266
05:35:40,100 --> 05:35:43,100
let's incentivize some of that. I

6267
05:35:43,100 --> 05:35:46,100
struggle with caps and saying no to the

6268
05:35:46,100 --> 05:35:48,100
free market at the same time we supera

6269
05:35:48,100 --> 05:35:51,100
issue here and how do we balance that? I

6270
05:35:51,100 --> 05:35:55,100
just think that how do we invent size what

6271
05:35:55,100 --> 05:35:57,100
we need, which is workforce housing. It

6272
05:35:57,100 --> 05:35:59,100
is probably the biggest issue and don't

6273
05:35:59,100 --> 05:36:02,100
know if just stopping short-term rentals

6274
05:36:02,100 --> 05:36:05,100
is going to accommodate that because I

6275
05:36:05,100 --> 05:36:09,100
read the study, if prices in the area

6276
05:36:09,100 --> 05:36:11,100
decline then more people might be able to

6277
05:36:11,100 --> 05:36:15,801
own a home. The real estate market those

6278
05:36:18,100 --> 05:36:22,100
prices are not going to be declining in a

6279
05:36:22,100 --> 05:36:24,100
market like that that is really valuable

6280
05:36:24,100 --> 05:36:28,100
and desired to purchase in. And then I

6281
05:36:28,100 --> 05:36:30,100
wanted to ask aaron a question because as

6282
05:36:30,100 --> 05:36:32,100
I read this it is really not clear the

6283
05:36:32,100 --> 05:36:35,601
impact that short-term rentals have on

6284
05:36:37,100 --> 05:36:39,100
long-term housing because I read the study

6285
05:36:39,100 --> 05:36:43,801
and read key findings because it is just

6286
05:36:44,100 --> 05:36:48,801
not a strong correlation. It is sort of.

6287
05:36:49,100 --> 05:36:51,100
the academic literature indicates there is

6288
05:36:51,100 --> 05:36:53,401
likely a statistically significant

6289
05:36:54,100 --> 05:36:56,100
relationship between str and availability

6290
05:36:56,100 --> 05:36:59,601
and affordable long-term housing. But it

6291
05:37:00,100 --> 05:37:04,201
goes on-none the less represent just one

6292
05:37:08,100 --> 05:37:10,401
factor influence long-term housing

6293
05:37:11,100 --> 05:37:13,100
availability and affordability and another

6294
05:37:13,100 --> 05:37:16,100
time it says it may likely contribute to

6295
05:37:16,100 --> 05:37:18,100
the increase in demand for second homes.

6296
05:37:18,100 --> 05:37:22,100
so, it is just not hard and fast. The

6297
05:37:22,100 --> 05:37:25,100
data-right aaron or not aaron, is it

6298
05:37:25,100 --> 05:37:27,100
aaron? I think that is his name. Not

6299
05:37:27,100 --> 05:37:29,100
hard and fast. It might, we don't really

6300
05:37:29,100 --> 05:37:33,100
know, covid had a impact. I think what we

6301
05:37:33,100 --> 05:37:35,100
know is we don't know the answer but do

6302
05:37:35,100 --> 05:37:38,100
know housing prices are really high and we

6303
05:37:38,100 --> 05:37:40,100
have to do something to address workforce

6304
05:37:40,100 --> 05:37:43,601
housing. If that is incentivize long-term

6305
05:37:44,100 --> 05:37:48,100
rents, maybe a cap, I'm not a big fan of

6306
05:37:48,100 --> 05:37:50,100
caps, but we really have to do something.

6307
05:37:50,100 --> 05:37:53,100
I know we are doing efforts with the

6308
05:37:53,100 --> 05:37:56,601
mountain housing council but--we just have

6309
05:38:00,100 --> 05:38:02,100
to-we need to fix it and at least start

6310
05:38:02,100 --> 05:38:05,100
providing more ways that we have workforce

6311
05:38:05,100 --> 05:38:09,100
housing. I think we got tot. We have

6312
05:38:09,100 --> 05:38:11,100
freed up tot dollars and we need to use

6313
05:38:11,100 --> 05:38:14,100
those dollars to find some ways to get

6314
05:38:14,100 --> 05:38:17,100
people housed, so we do have housing to

6315
05:38:17,100 --> 05:38:19,100
provide for all the services that are

6316
05:38:19,100 --> 05:38:21,401
needed for the area.

6317
05:38:26,100 --> 05:38:29,100
>> okay. No further comments by the board

6318
05:38:29,100 --> 05:38:33,801
at this point we'll open to the public.

6319
05:38:37,100 --> 05:38:38,100
>> waited a long time.

6320
05:38:38,100 --> 05:38:40,100
>> I have. Before I get started and not

6321
05:38:40,100 --> 05:38:42,100
going to be very long. I just want to

6322
05:38:42,100 --> 05:38:45,100
give you a little background of who is

6323
05:38:45,100 --> 05:38:48,100
speaking. I have 6 children, I live in

6324
05:38:48,100 --> 05:38:52,100
auburn but I came from a family of 6 and

6325
05:38:52,100 --> 05:38:55,100
grew up at lake tahoe. My parents moved

6326
05:38:55,100 --> 05:39:00,100
there in 1961 and my dad was a realtor and

6327
05:39:00,100 --> 05:39:04,100
developer. I used to play on the lawn of

6328
05:39:04,100 --> 05:39:08,100
what used to be a hotel where cobblestone

6329
05:39:08,100 --> 05:39:12,201
shopping center is. I used to teach

6330
05:39:13,100 --> 05:39:16,100
sailing and play shuffle board at tahoe

6331
05:39:16,100 --> 05:39:19,601
marina lodge where condominiums are and

6332
05:39:21,100 --> 05:39:24,100
there are, notice the occupancy tourism

6333
05:39:24,100 --> 05:39:27,100
accommodations there is flat line on

6334
05:39:27,100 --> 05:39:31,801
hotels. I had friends who used to parents

6335
05:39:32,100 --> 05:39:36,100
ran the hotels and they are now 8 glorious

6336
05:39:36,100 --> 05:39:40,100
beautiful single family homes and so my

6337
05:39:40,100 --> 05:39:42,100
parents my dad was a developer he

6338
05:39:42,100 --> 05:39:46,201
developed star harbor, and he like other

6339
05:39:48,100 --> 05:39:52,100
developers he put it all in and lost and

6340
05:39:52,100 --> 05:39:55,100
my mother ran the rentals then for star

6341
05:39:55,100 --> 05:39:59,100
harbor, and we cleaned the units, and but

6342
05:39:59,100 --> 05:40:01,100
for those short-term rentals I wouldn't

6343
05:40:01,100 --> 05:40:05,100
have graduated from north lake tahoe high

6344
05:40:05,100 --> 05:40:06,100
school. I think they are a blessing and

6345
05:40:06,100 --> 05:40:11,401
for me I have gone through the struggle, I

6346
05:40:14,100 --> 05:40:18,100
finally two years ago bought a house in

6347
05:40:18,100 --> 05:40:21,100
carnelian bay with my son and I'm anxious

6348
05:40:21,100 --> 05:40:24,100
to be able to short-term rent it. I take

6349
05:40:24,100 --> 05:40:26,100
pride in the properties I buy. I really

6350
05:40:26,100 --> 05:40:29,100
want to fix them up and I know that I

6351
05:40:29,100 --> 05:40:31,100
can't enjoy it all the time and for me I

6352
05:40:31,100 --> 05:40:35,100
want other people to enjoy it. I want

6353
05:40:35,100 --> 05:40:38,100
families to go and if you don't have 6

6354
05:40:38,100 --> 05:40:42,100
children and go to a hotel and you

6355
05:40:42,100 --> 05:40:44,100
can't-you have to rent multiple rooms.

6356
05:40:44,100 --> 05:40:47,100
the fire code, you can't go there. And so

6357
05:40:47,100 --> 05:40:50,100
for me to take my family on vacation is a

6358
05:40:50,100 --> 05:40:52,100
really hard thing and to me short-term

6359
05:40:52,100 --> 05:40:54,100
rentals are the blessing for the large

6360
05:40:54,100 --> 05:40:57,601
family. They provide the opportunity to

6361
05:40:58,100 --> 05:41:02,801
go and vacation buy food at the grocery

6362
05:41:03,100 --> 05:41:06,100
store, bbq, enjoy what you can't afford

6363
05:41:06,100 --> 05:41:10,100
and to me I enjoy tahoe. I saw it through

6364
05:41:10,100 --> 05:41:15,100
when it on golden pond the old movie, a

6365
05:41:15,100 --> 05:41:18,601
romantic place of wooden boats, chamber-my

6366
05:41:19,100 --> 05:41:21,100
brothers went to the high school now

6367
05:41:21,100 --> 05:41:24,100
chamber landing. My dad put together the

6368
05:41:24,100 --> 05:41:26,100
land that became home would ski area. I

6369
05:41:26,100 --> 05:41:31,401
know tay tahoe and me. I drove in my 2001

6370
05:41:36,100 --> 05:41:38,100
suburban. I barely afford what it and for

6371
05:41:38,100 --> 05:41:40,100
me that short-term rental is going to help

6372
05:41:40,100 --> 05:41:44,100
me be able to take my family and enjoy

6373
05:41:44,100 --> 05:41:47,601
christmas--and so that's the part about

6374
05:41:50,100 --> 05:41:53,601
short-term rentals. The thing I didn't

6375
05:41:56,100 --> 05:41:59,100
hear is how many second home owners don't

6376
05:41:59,100 --> 05:42:02,100
use their property? How many second home

6377
05:42:02,100 --> 05:42:06,100
owners are just growing? Those people are

6378
05:42:06,100 --> 05:42:08,100
not in the stats. We need the opportunity

6379
05:42:08,100 --> 05:42:10,100
for the middle class, the guys who just

6380
05:42:10,100 --> 05:42:13,100
barely make it to enjoy it and I can't

6381
05:42:13,100 --> 05:42:16,601
afford it without short-term rental. So,

6382
05:42:17,100 --> 05:42:21,100
I for me it is blessing. Not just for me,

6383
05:42:21,100 --> 05:42:23,100
but for the other people who I hope to

6384
05:42:23,100 --> 05:42:27,801
rent to if I ever get a permit.

6385
05:42:28,100 --> 05:42:30,100
>> if you can wrap up your comments.

6386
05:42:30,100 --> 05:42:33,601
>> yeah, yeah, yeah. I think actually

6387
05:42:35,100 --> 05:42:38,100
supervisor gore made all the comments.

6388
05:42:38,100 --> 05:42:41,100
exactly I didn't see the correlation and I

6389
05:42:41,100 --> 05:42:43,100
just hope you leave it open for people

6390
05:42:43,100 --> 05:42:46,601
like me. Regulate, penalize, make people

6391
05:42:48,100 --> 05:42:51,100
be civil. Anyway, thank you very much.

6392
05:42:51,100 --> 05:42:53,100
>> thank you.

6393
05:42:56,100 --> 05:42:57,100
>> we didn't get your name.

6394
05:42:57,100 --> 05:43:00,100
>> could you state your frame name for the

6395
05:43:00,100 --> 05:43:01,100
record.

6396
05:43:01,100 --> 05:43:02,100
>> chris.

6397
05:43:02,100 --> 05:43:03,100
>> thank you.

6398
05:43:03,100 --> 05:43:05,100
>> I got to meet your dad a long time ago.

6399
05:43:05,100 --> 05:43:07,401
>> you know my dad?

6400
05:43:08,100 --> 05:43:10,100
>> yeah.

6401
05:43:10,100 --> 05:43:13,100
>> dave, go ahead and unmute your mic and

6402
05:43:13,100 --> 05:43:15,100
give your comments.

6403
05:43:15,100 --> 05:43:18,100
>> hi. Thank you mr. Chairman and members

6404
05:43:18,100 --> 05:43:23,100
of the board. My name is dave norad just

6405
05:43:23,100 --> 05:43:26,100
finishing my lunch getting ready to go to

6406
05:43:26,100 --> 05:43:28,100
work. I would be one of the rare people

6407
05:43:28,100 --> 05:43:32,100
who are considered a local but also use my

6408
05:43:32,100 --> 05:43:36,100
property as a short-term rental. Been a

6409
05:43:36,100 --> 05:43:38,100
resident and owner and taxpayer in placer

6410
05:43:38,100 --> 05:43:41,601
county tahoe city since 1996. I rent

6411
05:43:43,100 --> 05:43:46,100
short-term through airbnb and manage

6412
05:43:48,100 --> 05:43:52,100
myself. I have a one bedroom condo with 2

6413
05:43:52,100 --> 05:43:54,100
night minimum. I have and continue to

6414
05:43:54,100 --> 05:43:56,100
work in the area in the service industry

6415
05:43:56,100 --> 05:43:59,100
in many different aspects ski resort, golf

6416
05:43:59,100 --> 05:44:03,201
courses restaurants. And just as a point

6417
05:44:04,100 --> 05:44:07,100
of reference to for today and the meeting,

6418
05:44:07,100 --> 05:44:09,100
the item regarding the maximum limit on

6419
05:44:09,100 --> 05:44:13,201
nights for the rentals is something that

6420
05:44:14,100 --> 05:44:17,601
I'm concerned with. As my property

6421
05:44:18,100 --> 05:44:21,100
provides me a significant source of my

6422
05:44:21,100 --> 05:44:24,100
income. In addition to that I support

6423
05:44:24,100 --> 05:44:28,100
other aspects down stream and up stream

6424
05:44:28,100 --> 05:44:32,100
with my rental in the community and for my

6425
05:44:32,100 --> 05:44:35,100
guests. I provide services and

6426
05:44:35,100 --> 05:44:38,601
suggestions and am in close contact

6427
05:44:40,100 --> 05:44:42,100
advices my guests on places to go and

6428
05:44:42,100 --> 05:44:46,801
things to do and places to respond spend

6429
05:44:47,100 --> 05:44:50,100
their money and as far as employing people

6430
05:44:50,100 --> 05:44:55,100
in the area to help me clean my condo if

6431
05:44:55,100 --> 05:44:57,100
work is being done and happen to be out

6432
05:44:57,100 --> 05:44:59,100
of-work needs to be down and I happen to

6433
05:44:59,100 --> 05:45:01,100
be out of town I have people that help me

6434
05:45:01,100 --> 05:45:03,100
with that so I have been in the community

6435
05:45:03,100 --> 05:45:08,100
for a long time and proud home owner. As

6436
05:45:08,100 --> 05:45:11,100
I said I'm in a condo and there's-never

6437
05:45:11,100 --> 05:45:13,100
been any noise safety parking or fire

6438
05:45:13,100 --> 05:45:17,801
issues in relation to my rental and just

6439
05:45:19,100 --> 05:45:22,100
one other thing, when I travel which I do

6440
05:45:22,100 --> 05:45:25,100
frequently when where mainly use my condo

6441
05:45:25,100 --> 05:45:29,100
as a rental, I prefer to stay in a hotel.

6442
05:45:29,100 --> 05:45:33,100
I never used airbnb hotels are my

6443
05:45:33,100 --> 05:45:35,100
preference and for whatever reason that is

6444
05:45:35,100 --> 05:45:39,801
I don't see those as being in competition.

6445
05:45:40,100 --> 05:45:44,201
basically so just as noted earlier my

6446
05:45:45,100 --> 05:45:48,100
objection to the maximum night limit on

6447
05:45:48,100 --> 05:45:52,100
the short-term rentals is my reason for

6448
05:45:52,100 --> 05:45:53,100
taking your time today. Thank you very

6449
05:45:53,100 --> 05:45:55,100
much for your consideration.

6450
05:45:55,100 --> 05:45:57,100
>> thank you.

6451
05:45:59,100 --> 05:46:03,201
>> brett unmute your mic and give your

6452
05:46:04,100 --> 05:46:05,100
comments.

6453
05:46:05,100 --> 05:46:08,100
>> thank you board of supervisors. I have

6454
05:46:08,100 --> 05:46:11,100
questions for the bae report. Is the

6455
05:46:11,100 --> 05:46:13,100
gentlemen still available?

6456
05:46:13,100 --> 05:46:17,100
>> yeah, if you direct your questions to

6457
05:46:17,100 --> 05:46:19,100
the board and we'll try to get those

6458
05:46:19,100 --> 05:46:20,100
answered.

6459
05:46:20,100 --> 05:46:23,100
>> great. Thank you. It follows with

6460
05:46:23,100 --> 05:46:25,401
supervisor gore's observation about

6461
05:46:27,100 --> 05:46:30,100
correlation and on the literature review

6462
05:46:30,100 --> 05:46:33,100
it says str activity correlate to increase

6463
05:46:33,100 --> 05:46:37,100
housing cost. But wouldn't that mean that

6464
05:46:37,100 --> 05:46:41,100
str are more prevalent in resort areas

6465
05:46:41,100 --> 05:46:43,100
where housing costs of course are more

6466
05:46:43,100 --> 05:46:47,201
expensive for example str are fewer in

6467
05:46:48,100 --> 05:46:51,100
modesto then they would be in north lake

6468
05:46:51,100 --> 05:46:55,201
tahoe? And then, another question that I

6469
05:47:00,100 --> 05:47:03,100
would have regarding the impacts on hotels

6470
05:47:03,100 --> 05:47:06,100
and I guess overall supply, has it been

6471
05:47:06,100 --> 05:47:09,100
taken into consideration that we have a

6472
05:47:09,100 --> 05:47:13,201
19.5 mile stretch from the state line at

6473
05:47:15,100 --> 05:47:17,100
[inaudible comments] down to tahoma post

6474
05:47:17,100 --> 05:47:19,100
office that we haven't built a new hotel

6475
05:47:19,100 --> 05:47:21,100
or motel since 1962?

6476
05:47:23,100 --> 05:47:25,100
>> I think that is accurate.

6477
05:47:25,100 --> 05:47:27,100
>> yeah. I just are wondering if that's

6478
05:47:27,100 --> 05:47:30,100
taken into consideration when it comes to

6479
05:47:30,100 --> 05:47:34,100
impacts of hotel and whether it also comes

6480
05:47:34,100 --> 05:47:37,100
into impacts on these ratios of short-term

6481
05:47:37,100 --> 05:47:40,601
rentals to the total housing stock?

6482
05:47:45,100 --> 05:47:47,100
sounds like he is not on the line. I

6483
05:47:47,100 --> 05:47:50,100
guess another observation in the

6484
05:47:50,100 --> 05:47:52,100
presentation would be 28 percent the

6485
05:47:52,100 --> 05:47:56,100
revenue of the housing stock has tot

6486
05:47:56,100 --> 05:47:59,601
certificate greater then zero, even if

6487
05:48:02,100 --> 05:48:05,100
that is the amount if the median price is

6488
05:48:05,100 --> 05:48:09,201
855 and we consider 855 and lower to be

6489
05:48:10,100 --> 05:48:13,100
achievable community housing, isn't it

6490
05:48:13,100 --> 05:48:16,100
just 14 percent because we dont need to

6491
05:48:16,100 --> 05:48:18,100
consider pertains to achievable community

6492
05:48:18,100 --> 05:48:21,601
housing the properties that are above 855,

6493
05:48:23,100 --> 05:48:24,100
correct?

6494
05:48:24,100 --> 05:48:26,100
>> brett, sorry I wasn't clear, what you

6495
05:48:26,100 --> 05:48:29,100
need to do is sort of make your questions

6496
05:48:29,100 --> 05:48:31,100
available to the board and we'll ask staff

6497
05:48:31,100 --> 05:48:33,100
including with aaron to-

6498
05:48:33,100 --> 05:48:34,100
>> okay.

6499
05:48:34,100 --> 05:48:35,100
>> to get responses.

6500
05:48:35,100 --> 05:48:37,401
>> okay. Great. Thank you.

6501
05:48:39,100 --> 05:48:40,100
>> thanks.

6502
05:48:40,100 --> 05:48:44,100
>> the last observation would be on the

6503
05:48:44,100 --> 05:48:47,100
slide that goes over str occupancy and

6504
05:48:47,100 --> 05:48:51,100
revenue. I are think those are pretty

6505
05:48:51,100 --> 05:48:54,100
accurate but what stories isn't being told

6506
05:48:54,100 --> 05:48:57,601
there are the costs associated with

6507
05:48:58,100 --> 05:49:00,100
short-term rental versus the cost

6508
05:49:00,100 --> 05:49:03,100
associated with the long-term rental.

6509
05:49:04,100 --> 05:49:08,100
short term rental needs to be finished.

6510
05:49:08,100 --> 05:49:10,100
the owner needs to pay for the utilities.

6511
05:49:10,100 --> 05:49:13,100
owner needs to pay for snow removal. The

6512
05:49:13,100 --> 05:49:16,100
owner is unable to deprecate the asset

6513
05:49:16,100 --> 05:49:21,100
over a 28 and a half year time period so

6514
05:49:21,100 --> 05:49:23,100
when you look at the profitability of

6515
05:49:23,100 --> 05:49:26,100
short-term rental and long-term rental at

6516
05:49:26,100 --> 05:49:29,100
855 the profitability for long-term rental

6517
05:49:30,100 --> 05:49:32,100
is far greater then profitability of

6518
05:49:32,100 --> 05:49:36,201
short-term rental by the reason people do

6519
05:49:37,100 --> 05:49:40,100
it it is the same thing since people have

6520
05:49:40,100 --> 05:49:42,100
coming here because they want to use it

6521
05:49:42,100 --> 05:49:44,100
and the long-term rental displaces the

6522
05:49:44,100 --> 05:49:47,100
whole purpose of ownership to begin with.

6523
05:49:47,100 --> 05:49:51,201
>> brett, one other thing just to brought

6524
05:49:52,100 --> 05:49:55,100
to my attention. We are in a process

6525
05:49:55,100 --> 05:49:57,100
where we are not making any compelling

6526
05:49:57,100 --> 05:49:59,100
decision today but generally provide

6527
05:49:59,100 --> 05:50:03,100
direction, so if we don't get answers to

6528
05:50:03,100 --> 05:50:05,100
your questions by the end of the hearing,

6529
05:50:05,100 --> 05:50:09,100
just e-mail us or contact us and we'll get

6530
05:50:09,100 --> 05:50:12,100
you any information we have and can get

6531
05:50:12,100 --> 05:50:13,100
for you.

6532
05:50:13,100 --> 05:50:15,100
>> great. Thank you. I know you guys are

6533
05:50:15,100 --> 05:50:17,100
running behind, that's it for me.

6534
05:50:17,100 --> 05:50:18,100
>> thank you.

6535
05:50:18,100 --> 05:50:20,100
>> thank you.

6536
05:50:22,100 --> 05:50:25,100
>> john, go ahead and unmute your mic and

6537
05:50:25,100 --> 05:50:26,100
give your comments.

6538
05:50:26,100 --> 05:50:29,100
>> thank you john falk legislative

6539
05:50:30,100 --> 05:50:33,100
advocate for board of realtors. Hopefully

6540
05:50:33,100 --> 05:50:36,601
in receipt of 13 december 4 pages in

6541
05:50:37,100 --> 05:50:40,100
length flushes out the [inaudible

6542
05:50:42,100 --> 05:50:44,100
comments] I did want to drive in on a few

6543
05:50:44,100 --> 05:50:48,801
specifics and core among them is that I

6544
05:50:49,100 --> 05:50:51,100
served on the stakeholder group and

6545
05:50:51,100 --> 05:50:54,100
attended the larger town hall groups. I'm

6546
05:50:54,100 --> 05:50:58,201
on the town of truckee stakeholder group.

6547
05:50:59,100 --> 05:51:03,100
even on t r p when it was looking at str

6548
05:51:03,100 --> 05:51:06,100
and every instance it is a question of

6549
05:51:06,100 --> 05:51:09,100
looking at what we are going to do rather

6550
05:51:09,100 --> 05:51:11,100
then if we should be doing something so

6551
05:51:11,100 --> 05:51:15,100
this is happened in every instance where I

6552
05:51:15,100 --> 05:51:19,100
always start with I think it shouldn't be

6553
05:51:19,100 --> 05:51:22,100
over regulated and definitely artificial

6554
05:51:24,100 --> 05:51:27,100
scarcity must be avoided because we are

6555
05:51:27,100 --> 05:51:31,201
tourism based economy. If you want to

6556
05:51:32,100 --> 05:51:34,100
provide workforce housing first you need

6557
05:51:34,100 --> 05:51:37,100
jobs to have that workforce. And if you

6558
05:51:37,100 --> 05:51:41,100
rely on the existing hotels to back fill

6559
05:51:41,100 --> 05:51:44,100
the loss of str or limiting the str you

6560
05:51:44,100 --> 05:51:47,100
are going to one, lose economic viability

6561
05:51:47,100 --> 05:51:51,100
and two, jobs and equally important also

6562
05:51:51,100 --> 05:51:54,100
going to further widen the chasm between

6563
05:51:54,100 --> 05:51:57,100
the have and have nots because it is more

6564
05:51:57,100 --> 05:51:59,100
expensive to come up here whether it is to

6565
05:51:59,100 --> 05:52:03,100
str or to stay in a hotel or motel. We

6566
05:52:03,100 --> 05:52:07,100
would urge you not to engage-if you are

6567
05:52:07,100 --> 05:52:10,100
direct to staff in any way to not engage

6568
05:52:10,100 --> 05:52:13,100
in any activities that involve

6569
05:52:13,100 --> 05:52:16,100
artificially capping or limiting str as a

6570
05:52:16,100 --> 05:52:19,100
activity. Alternatively you could direct

6571
05:52:20,100 --> 05:52:23,100
staff to report out every year str usage

6572
05:52:23,100 --> 05:52:26,100
and overall economy and even workforce

6573
05:52:26,100 --> 05:52:29,601
housing shortage and anything done to

6574
05:52:30,100 --> 05:52:33,100
improve it relieve it or have exacerbate

6575
05:52:33,100 --> 05:52:36,100
it and that way you would be able each

6576
05:52:36,100 --> 05:52:39,100
year then to reconsider whether or not you

6577
05:52:39,100 --> 05:52:41,100
need to do something but at this point you

6578
05:52:41,100 --> 05:52:44,100
are getting out in front of it and when

6579
05:52:44,100 --> 05:52:48,201
you start to metal with economy as

6580
05:52:49,100 --> 05:52:52,100
delicate as ours because it is tourism

6581
05:52:52,100 --> 05:52:55,100
based and when you try to compare that to

6582
05:52:55,100 --> 05:52:58,100
urban areas not rural areas, and areas

6583
05:52:58,100 --> 05:53:01,601
with diverse stable economies rather then

6584
05:53:03,100 --> 05:53:06,100
seasonal economy comprised of primary

6585
05:53:09,100 --> 05:53:10,100
residents and not second homes and apply

6586
05:53:10,100 --> 05:53:12,100
restrictive standard you will not end up

6587
05:53:12,100 --> 05:53:16,100
with the same result, you end up with the

6588
05:53:16,100 --> 05:53:18,100
potential to do economic damage that take

6589
05:53:18,100 --> 05:53:23,401
years and years to undo. We urge you not

6590
05:53:28,100 --> 05:53:32,100
to go down that road and to end please

6591
05:53:32,100 --> 05:53:35,100
incentives not mandates. There are a

6592
05:53:35,100 --> 05:53:38,100
number of ways you can truly incentivize

6593
05:53:38,100 --> 05:53:40,100
people to consider especially those second

6594
05:53:40,100 --> 05:53:43,100
home owners that want to use their home on

6595
05:53:43,100 --> 05:53:46,100
occasion to lease it out or rent it out on

6596
05:53:46,100 --> 05:53:49,100
a semi longer term like seasonal workers

6597
05:53:49,100 --> 05:53:53,100
you have a number of options and have the

6598
05:53:53,100 --> 05:53:57,100
current suite of options in play. I did

6599
05:53:57,100 --> 05:54:00,100
want to make the point the county staff

6600
05:54:00,100 --> 05:54:03,601
both tahoe and auburn have been

6601
05:54:12,100 --> 05:54:15,100
outstanding being accessible responsive to

6602
05:54:15,100 --> 05:54:16,100
every question comment concern I put

6603
05:54:16,100 --> 05:54:20,100
forward so our many concerns about the

6604
05:54:20,100 --> 05:54:24,100
potential moving forward is is no way

6605
05:54:24,100 --> 05:54:27,100
reflective of any negative appraisal of

6606
05:54:27,100 --> 05:54:30,100
how it has been pursued in terms of

6607
05:54:30,100 --> 05:54:32,100
outreach to the community. I think it has

6608
05:54:32,100 --> 05:54:36,100
been more then outstanding, but at this

6609
05:54:36,100 --> 05:54:38,100
point if you are asked to give direction

6610
05:54:38,100 --> 05:54:40,100
as to construction of a ordinance that

6611
05:54:40,100 --> 05:54:43,100
would be relatively permanent in nature, I

6612
05:54:43,100 --> 05:54:47,100
would urge you to only do clean up things

6613
05:54:47,100 --> 05:54:51,801
not add caps or other limitations and ramp

6614
05:54:53,100 --> 05:54:56,100
up the bad actor enforcement.

6615
05:54:56,100 --> 05:55:00,100
>> thank you john. If you can wrap up.

6616
05:55:00,100 --> 05:55:02,100
thank you. Reminder we are not adopting

6617
05:55:02,100 --> 05:55:04,100
any ordinance today or doing anything

6618
05:55:04,100 --> 05:55:06,100
specific other then giving general

6619
05:55:06,100 --> 05:55:09,100
direction to staff before we come back in

6620
05:55:09,100 --> 05:55:11,100
january.

6621
05:55:12,100 --> 05:55:15,100
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give

6622
05:55:15,100 --> 05:55:16,100
your comments.

6623
05:55:16,100 --> 05:55:19,100
>> good afternoon board. Thank you for

6624
05:55:19,100 --> 05:55:23,201
the opportunity to address this topic and

6625
05:55:24,100 --> 05:55:28,801
to put down the snow shovel. Dan tester

6626
05:55:32,100 --> 05:55:35,100
granite peek management home owner

6627
05:55:36,100 --> 05:55:38,100
association condo hotel and individual

6628
05:55:38,100 --> 05:55:40,100
home rentals through the vacation rental

6629
05:55:40,100 --> 05:55:43,100
brand all in eastern placer county. We

6630
05:55:43,100 --> 05:55:46,100
are a local company. Employ local people

6631
05:55:46,100 --> 05:55:49,601
and face the same challenges with

6632
05:55:55,100 --> 05:55:56,100
[inaudible comments] I have been involve

6633
05:55:56,100 --> 05:55:59,601
would the short-term rental ordinance. We

6634
05:56:04,100 --> 05:56:06,100
have been team players and good stewards

6635
05:56:06,100 --> 05:56:10,201
of the community. I dismayed when the

6636
05:56:11,100 --> 05:56:13,100
moratorium enacted and extended as our

6637
05:56:13,100 --> 05:56:16,100
company have been good citizens and left a

6638
05:56:16,100 --> 05:56:18,100
fair amount of business on the table as a

6639
05:56:18,100 --> 05:56:21,100
result. Great presentation today by

6640
05:56:23,100 --> 05:56:27,100
staff. I am in favor of some of the items

6641
05:56:27,100 --> 05:56:29,100
presented and have ern cans about other.

6642
05:56:29,100 --> 05:56:31,100
specific to options being presented today

6643
05:56:31,100 --> 05:56:35,801
I think I heard condo hotels exempted and

6644
05:56:38,100 --> 05:56:41,601
should be exempt for several different

6645
05:56:42,100 --> 05:56:45,100
reason. I think that I heard this bad

6646
05:56:45,100 --> 05:56:47,100
actors need to be punished. Couldn't

6647
05:56:47,100 --> 05:56:49,100
agree more. I would support a more

6648
05:56:49,100 --> 05:56:52,100
aggressive approach to finding bad guest

6649
05:56:52,100 --> 05:56:55,601
owner and agent behavior. Dwelling repeat

6650
05:56:57,100 --> 05:57:00,601
offenders should have their permit revoked

6651
05:57:01,100 --> 05:57:03,100
and rental without a permit should be

6652
05:57:03,100 --> 05:57:05,100
severe so strongly support increased

6653
05:57:05,100 --> 05:57:09,801
enforcement. On caps, I would say that I

6654
05:57:10,100 --> 05:57:12,401
would prohibitively and begrudgingly

6655
05:57:16,100 --> 05:57:19,100
support a cap. I understand right or

6656
05:57:19,100 --> 05:57:20,100
wrong this is a hot button issue in the

6657
05:57:20,100 --> 05:57:24,100
community and we as a industry need to be

6658
05:57:24,100 --> 05:57:28,100
part of a compromise on this. I think we

6659
05:57:28,100 --> 05:57:30,100
would all need to agree on the data we are

6660
05:57:30,100 --> 05:57:34,201
basing these decisions on and cap number

6661
05:57:35,100 --> 05:57:37,100
so there is a lot of work to be done and

6662
05:57:37,100 --> 05:57:40,100
has to work for everyone. On the maximum

6663
05:57:40,100 --> 05:57:43,100
nights rented I don't support a

6664
05:57:43,100 --> 05:57:45,100
restriction on that. I think most owners

6665
05:57:45,100 --> 05:57:48,100
will choose to rent during the highest

6666
05:57:48,100 --> 05:57:50,100
[streaming cut out]

6667
05:57:50,100 --> 05:57:54,201
impact periods because that is when rates

6668
05:57:55,100 --> 05:57:58,100
are highest so this doesn't make a lot of

6669
05:57:58,100 --> 05:58:00,100
sense to me. I do support a minimum. I

6670
05:58:00,100 --> 05:58:02,100
don't think people who have reserved a

6671
05:58:02,100 --> 05:58:04,100
permit and don't use it should have a

6672
05:58:04,100 --> 05:58:07,100
permit. I do support different tiers for

6673
05:58:07,100 --> 05:58:10,100
professional property managers. As a

6674
05:58:10,100 --> 05:58:12,100
professional property manager we have

6675
05:58:12,100 --> 05:58:14,100
local staff dedicated to responding to

6676
05:58:14,100 --> 05:58:17,601
these issues 24/7 of the properties we

6677
05:58:18,100 --> 05:58:21,100
manage. We are asset managers for our

6678
05:58:21,100 --> 05:58:23,100
clients homes and we manage them to

6679
05:58:23,100 --> 05:58:26,100
professional standards. Through all this

6680
05:58:27,100 --> 05:58:30,601
I understand the challenge and difficulty

6681
05:58:31,100 --> 05:58:34,100
and finding a balance solution to this for

6682
05:58:34,100 --> 05:58:37,100
our community. I support reasonable

6683
05:58:37,100 --> 05:58:38,100
restrictions in the community for

6684
05:58:38,100 --> 05:58:41,601
short-term rentals. And ask you consider

6685
05:58:42,100 --> 05:58:45,100
the health of the local short-term rental

6686
05:58:45,100 --> 05:58:48,100
operating businesses and the process and

6687
05:58:48,100 --> 05:58:51,100
again I thank you and happy to answer any

6688
05:58:51,100 --> 05:58:52,100
questions if you have any.

6689
05:58:52,100 --> 05:58:54,100
>> thank you.

6690
05:58:56,100 --> 05:58:59,100
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give

6691
05:58:59,100 --> 05:59:03,201
your comments. Roxy, can you unmute your

6692
05:59:05,100 --> 05:59:07,100
mic and give your comments?

6693
05:59:07,100 --> 05:59:10,100
>> hi. I might not be able to talk for

6694
05:59:10,100 --> 05:59:11,100
long but wanted to say thank you for

6695
05:59:11,100 --> 05:59:13,100
today. I know it has been long process

6696
05:59:13,100 --> 05:59:18,401
for you guys. But I just wanted to say

6697
05:59:20,100 --> 05:59:24,100
that the long-term rental market in lake

6698
05:59:24,100 --> 05:59:27,100
tahoe has always been very difficult for

6699
05:59:27,100 --> 05:59:31,100
myself. I started with glen martin at

6700
05:59:31,100 --> 05:59:34,601
remax property with vicky singleton and

6701
05:59:36,100 --> 05:59:40,201
renee. We managed over 250 units, and it

6702
05:59:42,100 --> 05:59:46,201
was very difficult. It wasn't very easy,

6703
05:59:48,100 --> 05:59:52,801
and I think that the problem with the

6704
05:59:54,100 --> 05:59:58,100
maintenance on a long-term rental is-I got

6705
05:59:58,100 --> 06:00:00,100
my little guy here so think I have to wait

6706
06:00:00,100 --> 06:00:04,100
and talk another time, but I wanted to say

6707
06:00:04,100 --> 06:00:07,100
that because we dont have the staff up

6708
06:00:07,100 --> 06:00:11,100
here to maintain the long-term rentals, it

6709
06:00:11,100 --> 06:00:14,100
is is a difficult proposition I think you

6710
06:00:14,100 --> 06:00:18,100
will have moving forward to try to talk

6711
06:00:18,100 --> 06:00:21,100
people into doing long-term rentals. I

6712
06:00:21,100 --> 06:00:24,100
would love myself to turn my vacation

6713
06:00:24,100 --> 06:00:28,801
rental into a long-term, but it is really

6714
06:00:32,000 --> 06:00:35,600
difficult to maintain a long-term rental.

6715
06:00:38,100 --> 06:00:40,100
so, that's the first thing that I wanted

6716
06:00:40,100 --> 06:00:45,401
to say. And, the second thing I wanted to

6717
06:00:47,100 --> 06:00:51,100
say is I'm not in favor of taking away the

6718
06:00:51,100 --> 06:00:55,100
night-the number of nights that I can

6719
06:00:55,100 --> 06:01:00,401
rent. Because I donate a lot of my funds

6720
06:01:02,100 --> 06:01:05,100
to people who can't afford rent in the

6721
06:01:05,100 --> 06:01:09,801
neighborhood. So, I say like on a nightly

6722
06:01:10,100 --> 06:01:15,401
basis if I'm able to rent out 22 nights I

6723
06:01:17,100 --> 06:01:21,100
give about 6 percent of that to charity

6724
06:01:21,100 --> 06:01:25,201
and I give another 10 percent to people

6725
06:01:27,100 --> 06:01:32,401
who need to pay rent. To have lost that

6726
06:01:33,100 --> 06:01:36,100
income would be sad because I have to tell

6727
06:01:36,100 --> 06:01:38,100
them I'm unable to do that anymore and

6728
06:01:38,100 --> 06:01:40,100
that is something I have done with my

6729
06:01:40,100 --> 06:01:45,401
nightly rent for a long time. I have a

6730
06:01:47,100 --> 06:01:52,100
little one in my lap no I'll let you go.

6731
06:01:52,100 --> 06:01:55,100
I don't have enough time to talk or pull

6732
06:01:55,100 --> 06:01:59,100
up my notes but ip wanted to thank you for

6733
06:01:59,100 --> 06:02:01,100
taking your time moving slowly with the

6734
06:02:01,100 --> 06:02:03,100
process. I think that is really important

6735
06:02:03,100 --> 06:02:06,100
is take our time and keep talking about it

6736
06:02:06,100 --> 06:02:10,100
and try to finds solutions to the

6737
06:02:10,100 --> 06:02:13,100
long-term housing market. I'm all for

6738
06:02:13,100 --> 06:02:16,100
change but I think trying to take away

6739
06:02:16,100 --> 06:02:19,601
from the short-term market might be

6740
06:02:20,100 --> 06:02:23,100
hurtful to the people that do donate in

6741
06:02:23,100 --> 06:02:25,100
our community which I know there is a lot

6742
06:02:25,100 --> 06:02:27,100
of us that do. Thank you so much for your

6743
06:02:27,100 --> 06:02:28,100
time.

6744
06:02:28,100 --> 06:02:30,100
>> thank you.

6745
06:02:31,100 --> 06:02:34,100
>> go ahead and unmute and give your

6746
06:02:34,100 --> 06:02:36,100
comments.

6747
06:02:36,100 --> 06:02:39,601
>> yes. Thank you board of supervisors.

6748
06:02:41,100 --> 06:02:44,100
to start there is a lot of nuance in the

6749
06:02:44,100 --> 06:02:47,601
problem. What investment to we encourage

6750
06:02:48,100 --> 06:02:51,100
as a community? I am speaking to you as a

6751
06:02:51,100 --> 06:02:53,100
long-term home owner in the eastern part

6752
06:02:53,100 --> 06:02:56,100
of placer county. Cindy may or may not

6753
06:02:56,100 --> 06:03:01,100
remember me from the past, but I am a

6754
06:03:01,100 --> 06:03:04,100
retired or semi retired business owner,

6755
06:03:04,100 --> 06:03:06,100
and I guess I'm torn-

6756
06:03:06,100 --> 06:03:10,100
>> I don't know your name so how can I

6757
06:03:10,100 --> 06:03:12,100
remember you?

6758
06:03:12,100 --> 06:03:15,100
>> this is charley riley. We know each

6759
06:03:15,100 --> 06:03:18,100
other from your past more honorable-no,

6760
06:03:18,100 --> 06:03:22,201
very honorable in what you are doing.

6761
06:03:23,100 --> 06:03:25,100
what I guess I would say is I have been a

6762
06:03:25,100 --> 06:03:28,100
landlord for years and years, and this

6763
06:03:28,100 --> 06:03:31,100
really is a problem but I would share that

6764
06:03:31,100 --> 06:03:35,100
just recently retired. I had a retail

6765
06:03:35,100 --> 06:03:37,100
store that was based in truckee but

6766
06:03:37,100 --> 06:03:40,100
serviced all of the eastern part of

6767
06:03:40,100 --> 06:03:44,100
placer, and one thing that caused me it go

6768
06:03:44,100 --> 06:03:48,100
and decide at 66 it was time to retire was

6769
06:03:48,100 --> 06:03:50,100
that businesses need employees and

6770
06:03:50,100 --> 06:03:53,100
employees need housing and there is so

6771
06:03:53,100 --> 06:03:57,100
much cause and effect and nuance in this

6772
06:03:57,100 --> 06:04:01,100
that I had a quick talk with the truckee

6773
06:04:01,100 --> 06:04:03,100
town council years ago but I pointed out

6774
06:04:03,100 --> 06:04:05,100
there is a line of cars every morning from

6775
06:04:05,100 --> 06:04:09,801
reno going up to north star, and that's

6776
06:04:10,100 --> 06:04:12,100
because those workers are critically

6777
06:04:12,100 --> 06:04:14,100
needed but no place for them to live and

6778
06:04:14,100 --> 06:04:17,100
so I look at this about what we encourage

6779
06:04:17,100 --> 06:04:23,100
and no I'm not going to go as a $45 hour

6780
06:04:23,100 --> 06:04:27,801
carpenter buy a $2 million house but I can

6781
06:04:28,100 --> 06:04:32,100
afford a reasonably priced house but we

6782
06:04:32,100 --> 06:04:36,100
made those houses too good investment for

6783
06:04:36,100 --> 06:04:38,100
short-term rental guy and so I'm

6784
06:04:38,100 --> 06:04:41,100
encouraging a thoughtful balance between

6785
06:04:42,100 --> 06:04:45,100
not capping stuff but just saying what are

6786
06:04:45,100 --> 06:04:47,100
we doing what is important? Short-term

6787
06:04:47,100 --> 06:04:49,100
rentals what I saw from the presentation

6788
06:04:49,100 --> 06:04:53,201
was it reduces the available housing of

6789
06:04:55,100 --> 06:04:59,100
low of 28 percent to lot more. If that is

6790
06:04:59,100 --> 06:05:01,100
the right amount fine but we need to think

6791
06:05:01,100 --> 06:05:03,100
about the whole thing. I look at safe way

6792
06:05:03,100 --> 06:05:07,100
in tahoe city and cindy you and I get jobs

6793
06:05:07,100 --> 06:05:09,100
there for about as much as you are paid

6794
06:05:09,100 --> 06:05:10,100
for the members of the board as they are

6795
06:05:10,100 --> 06:05:14,100
so desperate. I am just looking at this

6796
06:05:14,100 --> 06:05:17,100
thing trying to be what the heck. Anyway

6797
06:05:17,100 --> 06:05:20,100
I like to suggest that you strongly

6798
06:05:20,100 --> 06:05:23,100
consider supporting the proposed ordinance

6799
06:05:23,100 --> 06:05:25,100
changes in your packet. I know those are

6800
06:05:25,100 --> 06:05:26,100
not final decisions but those are

6801
06:05:26,100 --> 06:05:28,401
recommendations. I read through

6802
06:05:29,100 --> 06:05:31,100
attachment c and thought they were fairly

6803
06:05:31,100 --> 06:05:34,100
reasonable in what they came up with. The

6804
06:05:34,100 --> 06:05:39,401
next thing I share is I e-mailed all of

6805
06:05:40,100 --> 06:05:43,100
you with a slight challenge I came up

6806
06:05:43,100 --> 06:05:45,100
with. I am moving to auburn. I will

6807
06:05:45,100 --> 06:05:49,100
still be in district 5, so cindy will

6808
06:05:49,100 --> 06:05:52,100
still hear from me but in trying to sell

6809
06:05:52,100 --> 06:05:54,100
me house the current moratorium actually

6810
06:05:54,100 --> 06:05:58,100
gave somebody living in san jose or santa

6811
06:05:58,100 --> 06:06:02,100
clara when I lived 20 years ago somebody

6812
06:06:02,100 --> 06:06:06,100
buying a house could go and get a permit

6813
06:06:06,100 --> 06:06:10,100
and so I had people by-passing my property

6814
06:06:10,100 --> 06:06:12,100
because my property wasn't as sexy as a

6815
06:06:12,100 --> 06:06:13,100
permit. I don't want a permit but I want

6816
06:06:13,100 --> 06:06:17,100
you to treat everybody with parody and

6817
06:06:17,100 --> 06:06:18,100
equity.

6818
06:06:18,100 --> 06:06:21,100
>> can you wrap up your comments?

6819
06:06:21,100 --> 06:06:24,100
>> at this point I support what I read in

6820
06:06:24,100 --> 06:06:26,100
the recommendation. I would point out the

6821
06:06:26,100 --> 06:06:29,100
businesses in all eastern placer need

6822
06:06:29,100 --> 06:06:33,100
employees. We got to be there meeting

6823
06:06:33,100 --> 06:06:36,100
both sides of the problem.

6824
06:06:37,100 --> 06:06:41,100
>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give

6825
06:06:41,100 --> 06:06:43,100
your comments hillary.

6826
06:06:43,100 --> 06:06:46,100
>> hi there. My name is hillary

6827
06:06:46,100 --> 06:06:49,100
[inaudible comments] I sent an e-mail into

6828
06:06:49,100 --> 06:06:55,100
the board a few days ago. I am 33. I am

6829
06:06:55,100 --> 06:06:57,100
a broker in california. Also a consultant

6830
06:06:57,100 --> 06:06:59,100
with there department of real estate. My

6831
06:06:59,100 --> 06:07:02,100
mom started property management company

6832
06:07:02,100 --> 06:07:05,601
over 30 years ago. We manage 3 thousand

6833
06:07:10,100 --> 06:07:13,100
single family homes. [inaudible comments]

6834
06:07:15,100 --> 06:07:17,100
I bought it for the sole purpose of

6835
06:07:17,100 --> 06:07:19,100
bringing my children to truckee because it

6836
06:07:19,100 --> 06:07:22,100
was a place I grew up and I wanted to

6837
06:07:22,100 --> 06:07:26,100
expose them to that as well. So, the

6838
06:07:26,100 --> 06:07:29,100
other thing about that is I rent it out

6839
06:07:29,100 --> 06:07:33,801
for a living because it is a passive

6840
06:07:36,100 --> 06:07:37,100
source of income.

6841
06:07:37,100 --> 06:07:40,601
[captioning will continue in a moment.]

6842
06:12:48,100 --> 06:12:50,100
>> doesn't have parking spaces to support

6843
06:12:50,100 --> 06:12:54,801
that and so the rest of the neighborhood

6844
06:12:55,100 --> 06:12:58,100
gets to participate in that with no

6845
06:12:58,100 --> 06:13:01,601
accompany profit. Also, the landlord or

6846
06:13:03,100 --> 06:13:07,201
vrbo enacts a 500 fine for non compliance.

6847
06:13:09,100 --> 06:13:13,100
that goes to the property owner as profit.

6848
06:13:13,100 --> 06:13:15,100
>> if you can wrap up your comments.

6849
06:13:15,100 --> 06:13:19,201
>> I do support the efforts to increase

6850
06:13:20,100 --> 06:13:24,201
the penalties for non compliance and to

6851
06:13:25,100 --> 06:13:27,100
increase communication to report non

6852
06:13:27,100 --> 06:13:29,100
compliance. I would support that and I

6853
06:13:29,100 --> 06:13:32,100
also support your efforts in trying to

6854
06:13:32,100 --> 06:13:35,100
look at this problem, see for what it is I

6855
06:13:35,100 --> 06:13:37,100
make the changes required so we can all

6856
06:13:37,100 --> 06:13:39,100
live here happily and I appreciate your

6857
06:13:39,100 --> 06:13:41,100
time.

6858
06:13:46,100 --> 06:13:49,601
>> brian unmute your mic and give

6859
06:13:52,100 --> 06:13:53,100
comments.

6860
06:13:53,100 --> 06:13:57,801
>> this is brian donnelly and own a condo

6861
06:13:58,100 --> 06:14:01,601
in north star and been [inaudible

6862
06:14:05,100 --> 06:14:07,100
comments] think north star needs to be

6863
06:14:07,100 --> 06:14:10,100
[inaudible comments] from these rules

6864
06:14:10,100 --> 06:14:14,100
thing in north star. Condos single family

6865
06:14:14,100 --> 06:14:17,100
homes, whether they are managed

6866
06:14:17,100 --> 06:14:19,401
professionally, whether they are

6867
06:14:20,100 --> 06:14:24,100
individually or by the owner. I think

6868
06:14:24,100 --> 06:14:27,100
that it is intellectually dishonest

6869
06:14:31,100 --> 06:14:33,100
talking about my condo across the street

6870
06:14:33,100 --> 06:14:36,100
from the fair station as housing stock.

6871
06:14:36,100 --> 06:14:40,100
it isn't housing stock. It was built in

6872
06:14:40,100 --> 06:14:42,100
1973. It is pretty poor construction. It

6873
06:14:42,100 --> 06:14:47,401
was meant to be a second home/ski rental.

6874
06:14:48,100 --> 06:14:51,100
when it was built. It was built inside a

6875
06:14:51,100 --> 06:14:54,100
ski resort. It was not built next to

6876
06:14:54,100 --> 06:14:55,100
elementary school. It isn't a

6877
06:14:55,100 --> 06:14:58,601
neighborhood. This is a resort and

6878
06:15:03,100 --> 06:15:07,201
survives on short term rentals to ski

6879
06:15:08,100 --> 06:15:11,100
[inaudible comments] and so it is really

6880
06:15:11,100 --> 06:15:14,601
important that we be intellectually honest

6881
06:15:15,100 --> 06:15:19,100
about the fact I will never rent my unit

6882
06:15:19,100 --> 06:15:21,100
to a will you local working there because

6883
06:15:21,100 --> 06:15:26,100
that takes away my ability to use it which

6884
06:15:26,100 --> 06:15:28,100
is why I bought inside a ski resort in the

6885
06:15:28,100 --> 06:15:32,801
first place so this is not housing stock.

6886
06:15:33,100 --> 06:15:36,601
[inaudible comments] coming up and talking

6887
06:15:37,100 --> 06:15:39,100
about housing stock, I think that there is

6888
06:15:39,100 --> 06:15:42,100
a desired result by certain staff and then

6889
06:15:42,100 --> 06:15:46,100
they are working backwards to justify and

6890
06:15:46,100 --> 06:15:48,100
back fill that result. But if we are

6891
06:15:48,100 --> 06:15:52,100
going to be honest, my unit is not housing

6892
06:15:52,100 --> 06:15:57,100
stock, and so I just hope that people are

6893
06:15:57,100 --> 06:15:59,100
going to acknowledge that one size does

6894
06:15:59,100 --> 06:16:02,100
not fit all here and that we do need to

6895
06:16:02,100 --> 06:16:05,100
look at neighborhoods and treat them

6896
06:16:05,100 --> 06:16:08,100
differently. What might be a nuisance for

6897
06:16:08,100 --> 06:16:12,100
a family that has school aged children

6898
06:16:12,100 --> 06:16:14,100
[inaudible comments] up in the north star

6899
06:16:14,100 --> 06:16:19,100
village. It is the same exact act but it

6900
06:16:19,100 --> 06:16:22,100
does matter where it occurs and so I hope

6901
06:16:22,100 --> 06:16:25,100
that we can honest conversation about the

6902
06:16:25,100 --> 06:16:30,100
fact one size does not fit all the entire

6903
06:16:30,100 --> 06:16:33,100
eastern placer county. Thank you.

6904
06:16:36,100 --> 06:16:39,100
>> please unmute your mic and give your

6905
06:16:39,100 --> 06:16:41,100
comments.

6906
06:16:42,100 --> 06:16:45,100
>> hi. I lake to say that we own a home

6907
06:16:45,100 --> 06:16:49,801
in chamberland, our second home and we do

6908
06:16:50,100 --> 06:16:53,100
not feel that limiting short-term rentals

6909
06:16:53,100 --> 06:16:55,100
will allow for-

6910
06:16:55,100 --> 06:16:57,100
>> excuse me, could you state your name

6911
06:16:57,100 --> 06:16:59,100
for the record, please?

6912
06:16:59,100 --> 06:17:01,100
>> lisa [inaudible comments] and ed

6913
06:17:01,100 --> 06:17:02,100
[inaudible comments]

6914
06:17:02,100 --> 06:17:04,100
>> thank you.

6915
06:17:05,100 --> 06:17:08,100
>> we don't feel limiting short-term

6916
06:17:08,100 --> 06:17:11,100
rentals will solve the problem that the

6917
06:17:11,100 --> 06:17:13,100
board is looking as the major problem

6918
06:17:13,100 --> 06:17:16,100
which is allowing long-term rentals for

6919
06:17:16,100 --> 06:17:19,100
workers. The pricing in the neighborhood

6920
06:17:19,100 --> 06:17:22,100
has gone through the roof and limiting

6921
06:17:22,100 --> 06:17:24,100
short-term rentals in our view is just

6922
06:17:24,100 --> 06:17:27,100
going to basically make tahoe a

6923
06:17:27,100 --> 06:17:30,100
millionaire playground where mow average

6924
06:17:30,100 --> 06:17:33,100
person can come and rent for a week, and I

6925
06:17:33,100 --> 06:17:37,201
do support you know, regulations in terms

6926
06:17:38,100 --> 06:17:42,100
of like non compliance and you know,

6927
06:17:42,100 --> 06:17:46,201
penalty and you know, fining people that

6928
06:17:47,100 --> 06:17:50,100
disobey the ordinances like the quite time

6929
06:17:50,100 --> 06:17:55,100
and the garbage and do feel for the last

6930
06:17:55,100 --> 06:17:58,100
speaker that says it does rely on the

6931
06:17:58,100 --> 06:18:01,601
local community to report violators. That

6932
06:18:02,100 --> 06:18:06,100
seems there could be more outreach so that

6933
06:18:06,100 --> 06:18:08,100
that could be fixed, but I really don't

6934
06:18:08,100 --> 06:18:12,201
think that the primary problem of housing

6935
06:18:13,100 --> 06:18:17,801
workers is going to be solved by limiting

6936
06:18:19,100 --> 06:18:21,401
short-term rental especially in

6937
06:18:22,100 --> 06:18:23,100
chamberland and that is all I have to say.

6938
06:18:23,100 --> 06:18:24,100
thank you.

6939
06:18:24,100 --> 06:18:25,100
>> thank you.

6940
06:18:25,100 --> 06:18:28,100
>> go ahead and unmute and give your

6941
06:18:28,100 --> 06:18:30,100
comments.

6942
06:18:30,100 --> 06:18:33,100
>> hi. My name is [inaudible comments] we

6943
06:18:33,100 --> 06:18:36,100
own a place in north star which we bought

6944
06:18:36,100 --> 06:18:40,801
in july. We are in a pretty [inaudible

6945
06:18:47,100 --> 06:18:49,100
comments] we bought our place a week

6946
06:18:49,100 --> 06:18:51,100
before the [inaudible comments] and we did

6947
06:18:51,100 --> 06:18:54,100
not anticipate [inaudible comments] we are

6948
06:18:54,100 --> 06:18:58,100
kind of stuck between a rock and hard

6949
06:18:58,100 --> 06:19:00,100
place because we were working with a

6950
06:19:00,100 --> 06:19:02,100
property manager to figure out how to rent

6951
06:19:02,100 --> 06:19:04,100
it and get a permit and everything and

6952
06:19:04,100 --> 06:19:08,100
then this came in, so what one comment I

6953
06:19:08,100 --> 06:19:13,401
have is to consider people like us who are

6954
06:19:15,100 --> 06:19:18,100
not anticipating this to happen a

6955
06:19:18,100 --> 06:19:20,100
regulation like this doesn't happen over

6956
06:19:20,100 --> 06:19:23,100
night, but while this one did, so I would

6957
06:19:23,100 --> 06:19:24,100
really appreciate if that is considered

6958
06:19:24,100 --> 06:19:30,100
and whether we have a limit or not to have

6959
06:19:31,100 --> 06:19:33,100
exemptions for folks like me who are not

6960
06:19:33,100 --> 06:19:37,801
planning for this. If the str are not

6961
06:19:40,100 --> 06:19:43,100
available and buying a new case I would

6962
06:19:43,100 --> 06:19:45,100
consider this but this is million plus

6963
06:19:45,100 --> 06:19:48,100
dollar properties and it caused a lot of

6964
06:19:48,100 --> 06:19:50,100
hardship for because it happened so

6965
06:19:50,100 --> 06:19:52,100
suddenly.

6966
06:19:57,100 --> 06:20:00,100
>> samir, unmute your mic and give your

6967
06:20:00,100 --> 06:20:01,100
comments.

6968
06:20:01,100 --> 06:20:04,601
>> good afternoon samir north lake tahoe

6969
06:20:06,100 --> 06:20:08,100
resort association. Just want to run

6970
06:20:08,100 --> 06:20:10,100
through points. Over the course of the

6971
06:20:10,100 --> 06:20:13,100
last couple months as the ordinance has

6972
06:20:13,100 --> 06:20:16,100
been being discussed I spent a lot of time

6973
06:20:16,100 --> 06:20:18,100
certainly nothing close to what supervisor

6974
06:20:18,100 --> 06:20:21,100
gustafson spent but spent a lot of time

6975
06:20:21,100 --> 06:20:23,100
talking to different constituents and

6976
06:20:23,100 --> 06:20:25,100
different groups including local

6977
06:20:25,100 --> 06:20:27,401
businesses, community members, str

6978
06:20:29,100 --> 06:20:32,100
operators hotel, the resort association

6979
06:20:32,100 --> 06:20:35,100
board and sometimes getting stopped on the

6980
06:20:35,100 --> 06:20:37,100
street by locals and want to have a chat

6981
06:20:37,100 --> 06:20:41,801
about this. And I just have a few

6982
06:20:42,100 --> 06:20:44,100
observations. I think there is a lot of

6983
06:20:44,100 --> 06:20:48,100
support and a lot of consistent discussion

6984
06:20:48,100 --> 06:20:50,100
regarding the nuisance and public safety

6985
06:20:50,100 --> 06:20:53,100
issue and think a lot of what you focused

6986
06:20:53,100 --> 06:20:55,100
on and talk about needs to be implemented

6987
06:20:55,100 --> 06:20:58,100
and think there is broad support for that.

6988
06:20:58,100 --> 06:21:02,100
there may be tailoring or things that need

6989
06:21:02,100 --> 06:21:04,100
to be done there but I think where the

6990
06:21:04,100 --> 06:21:06,100
real diversity of views shows up is with

6991
06:21:06,100 --> 06:21:11,100
respect to how if at all does this impact

6992
06:21:11,100 --> 06:21:13,100
housing prices and housing availability.

6993
06:21:13,100 --> 06:21:17,100
there is a wide wide range of requests or

6994
06:21:17,100 --> 06:21:21,100
possible solutions here on the one end is

6995
06:21:21,100 --> 06:21:22,100
do nothing change nothing and just allow

6996
06:21:22,100 --> 06:21:26,100
it to function the way it is. On the

6997
06:21:26,100 --> 06:21:29,100
other hand I heard discussion regarding

6998
06:21:29,100 --> 06:21:31,100
voter initiative that would be very

6999
06:21:31,100 --> 06:21:33,100
similar to what happened in south lake

7000
06:21:33,100 --> 06:21:36,100
tahoe and that could be really

7001
06:21:36,100 --> 06:21:37,100
catastrophic for the industry and for the

7002
06:21:37,100 --> 06:21:40,601
community and those types of limitations

7003
06:21:41,100 --> 06:21:44,601
would just create enormous problems and

7004
06:21:45,100 --> 06:21:48,100
the problems everybody has been talking

7005
06:21:48,100 --> 06:21:51,100
about today on both side. Even within the

7006
06:21:51,100 --> 06:21:53,100
various groups I have been talking to for

7007
06:21:53,100 --> 06:21:57,100
example on the resort association board or

7008
06:21:57,100 --> 06:21:59,100
the short-term rental operators there is a

7009
06:21:59,100 --> 06:22:02,100
diversity of views in terms of what if

7010
06:22:02,100 --> 06:22:04,100
anything should be done by way of caps.

7011
06:22:04,100 --> 06:22:07,100
again, some say caps are fine, caps need

7012
06:22:07,100 --> 06:22:10,100
to happen, some say don't cap anything at

7013
06:22:10,100 --> 06:22:14,100
all. So, one thing the resort association

7014
06:22:14,100 --> 06:22:17,601
is doing is convening discussions with

7015
06:22:18,100 --> 06:22:20,100
some of the short-term rental operators

7016
06:22:20,100 --> 06:22:23,100
with county staff with board members and

7017
06:22:23,100 --> 06:22:25,100
other local business owners to try to see

7018
06:22:25,100 --> 06:22:28,100
if there is some middle ground or some

7019
06:22:28,100 --> 06:22:31,100
sort of compromise people can live with.

7020
06:22:31,100 --> 06:22:35,100
I will ask that there was a letter that

7021
06:22:35,100 --> 06:22:37,100
came from the short-term rental operators

7022
06:22:37,100 --> 06:22:40,100
asking for data. I know some of that has

7023
06:22:40,100 --> 06:22:44,100
been provided and I know staff is working

7024
06:22:44,100 --> 06:22:46,100
to respond to other components of the

7025
06:22:46,100 --> 06:22:48,100
letter and really appreciate the

7026
06:22:48,100 --> 06:22:51,100
transparency that comes about with result

7027
06:22:51,100 --> 06:22:54,100
of those disclosure. And then I think

7028
06:22:54,100 --> 06:22:56,100
finally someone made a comment this would

7029
06:22:56,100 --> 06:22:58,100
be permanent and don't think any way shape

7030
06:22:58,100 --> 06:23:00,100
or form it needs to be permanent. I think

7031
06:23:00,100 --> 06:23:04,100
there is a lot of opportunity for it being

7032
06:23:04,100 --> 06:23:08,100
of a fixed period of time analysis and

7033
06:23:08,100 --> 06:23:10,100
review and that sort of thing. I think

7034
06:23:10,100 --> 06:23:13,100
the notion it would be permanent is

7035
06:23:13,100 --> 06:23:15,100
overstated and think what would be

7036
06:23:15,100 --> 06:23:17,100
necessary with any changes here is they be

7037
06:23:17,100 --> 06:23:20,100
evaluated on a regular basis against fixed

7038
06:23:20,100 --> 06:23:22,100
criteria. Thank you very much for your

7039
06:23:22,100 --> 06:23:24,100
time.

7040
06:23:29,100 --> 06:23:31,100
>> unmute your mic and give your comments.

7041
06:23:31,100 --> 06:23:34,100
>> hi. Can you hear me?

7042
06:23:34,100 --> 06:23:35,100
>> yes.

7043
06:23:35,100 --> 06:23:38,100
>> hi. Wonderful. Hi everybody. First

7044
06:23:40,100 --> 06:23:42,100
of all, thank you very much for your time

7045
06:23:42,100 --> 06:23:45,100
and for all the efforts you put into it.

7046
06:23:45,100 --> 06:23:49,100
it is a really complicated issue. My name

7047
06:23:49,100 --> 06:23:53,201
is [inaudible comments] and my family just

7048
06:23:56,100 --> 06:24:00,100
bought second home in dutch flat and we

7049
06:24:00,100 --> 06:24:02,100
experience similar issue. We are not able

7050
06:24:02,100 --> 06:24:07,401
to rent it because we are can't get a

7051
06:24:08,100 --> 06:24:10,100
permit and that is a huge financial

7052
06:24:10,100 --> 06:24:13,100
hardship [inaudible comments] as many

7053
06:24:17,100 --> 06:24:22,401
people say, I want it to be working well

7054
06:24:23,100 --> 06:24:26,100
for everybody for all the neighbors who

7055
06:24:26,100 --> 06:24:30,100
live there so for this reason there needs

7056
06:24:30,100 --> 06:24:34,801
to be regulations, but if we don't get

7057
06:24:36,100 --> 06:24:39,100
permits we won't be renting it long-term.

7058
06:24:39,100 --> 06:24:42,100
we just definitely don't want to do that.

7059
06:24:42,100 --> 06:24:46,100
it isn't something that we envisioned, we

7060
06:24:46,100 --> 06:24:49,100
live in san jose in condo with two kids we

7061
06:24:49,100 --> 06:24:52,100
cant afford a house in our area so that

7062
06:24:52,100 --> 06:24:55,100
was our dream to live in a house and the

7063
06:24:55,100 --> 06:24:59,100
only way to afford it was up there. The

7064
06:24:59,100 --> 06:25:02,601
permits moratorium is not an ideal

7065
06:25:03,100 --> 06:25:06,100
situation. Rather there should be some

7066
06:25:06,100 --> 06:25:10,100
process that you can apply for the permit

7067
06:25:10,100 --> 06:25:13,100
and maybe pass an exam which educate you

7068
06:25:13,100 --> 06:25:17,801
as a property owner how to take care

7069
06:25:21,100 --> 06:25:24,100
of-how to manage your renters. How to

7070
06:25:24,100 --> 06:25:27,100
follow the rules. How to be a responsible

7071
06:25:27,100 --> 06:25:30,601
for community. And also if keep

7072
06:25:37,100 --> 06:25:39,100
moratorium in place people will find ways

7073
06:25:39,100 --> 06:25:44,100
to rent it. I prefer to pay fees to make

7074
06:25:44,100 --> 06:25:47,100
it fully legal and be responsible but not

7075
06:25:47,100 --> 06:25:51,100
being able to rent at all. There is

7076
06:25:51,100 --> 06:25:54,100
something to consider to maybe educate

7077
06:25:54,100 --> 06:25:57,100
those who get permits rather then limit

7078
06:25:57,100 --> 06:25:59,100
permits. That's all I wanted to say.

7079
06:25:59,100 --> 06:26:00,100
thank you very much.

7080
06:26:00,100 --> 06:26:02,100
>> thank you.

7081
06:26:06,100 --> 06:26:09,100
>> cathy please unmite your mic and give

7082
06:26:09,100 --> 06:26:10,100
your comments.

7083
06:26:10,100 --> 06:26:14,100
>> thank you. My name is cathy fairbanks

7084
06:26:14,100 --> 06:26:18,100
and I live in sacramento and in 2019 I

7085
06:26:18,100 --> 06:26:22,100
purchased a condo in tahoe city. I didn't

7086
06:26:22,100 --> 06:26:25,601
start doing short-term rentals until late

7087
06:26:26,100 --> 06:26:29,100
july this year and in october I submitted

7088
06:26:29,100 --> 06:26:32,100
my first payment for the second quarter

7089
06:26:32,100 --> 06:26:36,201
for the transit occupancy tax. I missed-I

7090
06:26:38,100 --> 06:26:40,100
am working so missed the presentation and

7091
06:26:40,100 --> 06:26:42,100
coming into this late but I did want to

7092
06:26:42,100 --> 06:26:45,100
lay out a couple of thoughts that I had

7093
06:26:45,100 --> 06:26:50,401
and things to keep in mind as this process

7094
06:26:51,100 --> 06:26:53,100
moves forward and thank you for giving me

7095
06:26:53,100 --> 06:26:57,201
a opportunity to speak. I agree there

7096
06:26:59,100 --> 06:27:02,601
should be structure around the short-term

7097
06:27:03,100 --> 06:27:07,100
rental permit process and the situation in

7098
06:27:07,100 --> 06:27:11,801
tahoe, but I think what I'm hearing and

7099
06:27:14,100 --> 06:27:16,100
what I'm seeing and experienced is really

7100
06:27:16,100 --> 06:27:18,100
a problem with like three things I would

7101
06:27:18,100 --> 06:27:22,100
say, bad actors who we all attacked about

7102
06:27:22,100 --> 06:27:24,100
and everyone I heard agrees that we need

7103
06:27:24,100 --> 06:27:28,100
to do something to address habitual bad

7104
06:27:28,100 --> 06:27:32,100
actors and I would be in favor of that.

7105
06:27:32,100 --> 06:27:35,100
I'll not in favor of capping the permits

7106
06:27:35,100 --> 06:27:38,100
or capping the number of nights until

7107
06:27:38,100 --> 06:27:40,100
perhaps there is more study and everyone

7108
06:27:40,100 --> 06:27:44,100
is firm on how the market is working in

7109
06:27:44,100 --> 06:27:47,100
tahoe. One thing I haven't heard talked

7110
06:27:47,100 --> 06:27:49,100
about much though is the tax revenue that

7111
06:27:49,100 --> 06:27:51,100
this brings in and maybe I missed this in

7112
06:27:51,100 --> 06:27:53,401
part of the presentation.

7113
06:28:14,100 --> 06:28:16,100
[streaming cut out]

7114
06:28:17,100 --> 06:28:20,100
>> I think that can help alleviate traffic

7115
06:28:20,100 --> 06:28:23,601
and looking forward to using that.

7116
06:28:24,100 --> 06:28:28,801
affordable housing is a huge issue and not

7117
06:28:29,100 --> 06:28:31,100
just in tahoe it is everywhere in

7118
06:28:31,100 --> 06:28:32,100
california. This isn't just because of

7119
06:28:32,100 --> 06:28:36,100
short-term rentals the tahoe area has a

7120
06:28:36,100 --> 06:28:38,100
housing affordability problem. There is a

7121
06:28:38,100 --> 06:28:42,100
problem but it is all over the state.

7122
06:28:42,100 --> 06:28:45,601
developers aren't not incent vised to

7123
06:28:46,100 --> 06:28:49,100
build housing without subsidy from local

7124
06:28:49,100 --> 06:28:51,100
government. It doesn't pencil out and

7125
06:28:51,100 --> 06:28:54,100
that is one thing we need to consider as

7126
06:28:54,100 --> 06:28:56,100
it relates to short-term rentals and to

7127
06:28:56,100 --> 06:28:59,100
the ability to the extent they can help

7128
06:28:59,100 --> 06:29:01,401
subsidize additional affordable housing.

7129
06:29:05,100 --> 06:29:06,100
thank you.

7130
06:29:06,100 --> 06:29:07,100
>> thank you.

7131
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>> go ahead and unmute your mic and give

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your comments.

7133
06:29:10,100 --> 06:29:13,601
>> hi. Thanks. Phillip welch I shared

7134
06:29:15,100 --> 06:29:18,100
last time on this. My family purchased a

7135
06:29:18,100 --> 06:29:21,100
house and hoping to rent it but my

7136
06:29:21,100 --> 06:29:23,100
comments are on the workforce housing

7137
06:29:23,100 --> 06:29:26,100
portion of this. I fully agree with

7138
06:29:26,100 --> 06:29:29,100
supervisor gore that I don't think this is

7139
06:29:29,100 --> 06:29:32,100
going to effect prices. We have a perfect

7140
06:29:32,100 --> 06:29:35,100
case study in south lake study. Measure t

7141
06:29:35,100 --> 06:29:37,100
husband been effect 12 months now and the

7142
06:29:37,100 --> 06:29:40,100
prices haven't gone down if you look at

7143
06:29:40,100 --> 06:29:43,100
zillow it isn't effecting it, so I hate

7144
06:29:43,100 --> 06:29:46,100
for us to be pursuing this as a solution

7145
06:29:46,100 --> 06:29:48,100
for problem and waiting for a couple years

7146
06:29:48,100 --> 06:29:51,100
to see did this fix it, wait it didn't fix

7147
06:29:51,100 --> 06:29:55,100
this at all. So that is one thought. The

7148
06:29:55,100 --> 06:29:58,100
other thought I noticed in the written

7149
06:29:58,100 --> 06:30:00,100
document on the update to the ordinance

7150
06:30:00,100 --> 06:30:03,100
mentioned of future hotel developments and

7151
06:30:03,100 --> 06:30:06,100
economic viability of that being

7152
06:30:06,100 --> 06:30:08,100
challenged by this and I'm concerned we

7153
06:30:08,100 --> 06:30:10,100
are thinking of that instead of thinking

7154
06:30:10,100 --> 06:30:13,100
why can't we build long-term workforce

7155
06:30:13,100 --> 06:30:16,100
housing that isn't rentable? Instead of

7156
06:30:16,100 --> 06:30:19,601
hotels we have small hotels now.

7157
06:30:20,100 --> 06:30:22,100
short-term rentals and people like using

7158
06:30:22,100 --> 06:30:25,100
them. Why worry about the economic

7159
06:30:25,100 --> 06:30:28,100
viability of something not economically

7160
06:30:31,100 --> 06:30:34,601
viable anymore? Thank you. And recollect

7161
06:30:41,100 --> 06:30:43,100
chairman no further public comment.

7162
06:30:43,100 --> 06:30:46,601
>> thanks megan. So, with that, again,

7163
06:30:49,100 --> 06:30:53,100
first thing I want to ask is if there are

7164
06:30:53,100 --> 06:30:55,100
any questions or comments that staff would

7165
06:30:55,100 --> 06:30:59,801
like to address or clarify noting also we

7166
06:31:00,100 --> 06:31:03,100
will be coming back so there's ample time

7167
06:31:03,100 --> 06:31:07,100
to respond to individuals if they get in

7168
06:31:07,100 --> 06:31:11,801
touch with us but might be low hanging

7169
06:31:13,100 --> 06:31:15,100
fruit you want to address before we go

7170
06:31:15,100 --> 06:31:16,100
farther.

7171
06:31:16,100 --> 06:31:20,801
>> I think I would just mention to mr.

7172
06:31:21,100 --> 06:31:24,100
williams a lot of comments to unpack and

7173
06:31:24,100 --> 06:31:27,100
welcome a follow up conversation with him

7174
06:31:27,100 --> 06:31:29,100
and I think to connect with our consultant

7175
06:31:29,100 --> 06:31:33,801
on a more detailed level. That was one

7176
06:31:36,100 --> 06:31:38,100
thing I had written down.

7177
06:31:38,100 --> 06:31:41,100
>> I wanted to respond to the women that

7178
06:31:41,100 --> 06:31:44,100
spoke in dutch plat the ordinance does not

7179
06:31:44,100 --> 06:31:48,100
apply to dutch flat area so welcome

7180
06:31:48,100 --> 06:31:51,100
her-she can e-mail me and further discuss.

7181
06:31:51,100 --> 06:31:55,100
>> generally anyone who wants to remain on

7182
06:31:55,100 --> 06:31:58,100
the board would be happy to get responses

7183
06:31:58,100 --> 06:32:01,100
back to you and help out particularly with

7184
06:32:01,100 --> 06:32:04,100
information as we move to our january

7185
06:32:04,100 --> 06:32:07,100
date. So with that, again keeping in mind

7186
06:32:07,100 --> 06:32:11,100
that staff is seeking from us some

7187
06:32:11,100 --> 06:32:14,100
feedback related to help them craft more

7188
06:32:14,100 --> 06:32:16,100
specifically what will be on the table in

7189
06:32:16,100 --> 06:32:21,100
january and with that I'm going to give to

7190
06:32:21,100 --> 06:32:22,100
cindy and then suzanne.

7191
06:32:22,100 --> 06:32:24,100
>> thank you. I really appreciate the

7192
06:32:24,100 --> 06:32:27,100
time today and I know it is late in the

7193
06:32:27,100 --> 06:32:29,100
day and we spent a lot of time discussing

7194
06:32:29,100 --> 06:32:33,100
this and all staffs work. I would ask

7195
06:32:33,100 --> 06:32:37,100
that bae site the literature on the

7196
06:32:37,100 --> 06:32:39,100
inflation value on the housing. When

7197
06:32:39,100 --> 06:32:43,201
people can earn $35 thousand a average and

7198
06:32:53,000 --> 06:32:56,100
up to hundreds of thousands of dollars on

7199
06:32:56,100 --> 06:32:59,100
short-term rental it is inflating the

7200
06:32:59,100 --> 06:33:01,100
housing market and the evidence is there

7201
06:33:01,100 --> 06:33:05,100
and they mentioned but let's cite those

7202
06:33:05,100 --> 06:33:07,100
that literature. I sent you literature.

7203
06:33:07,100 --> 06:33:09,100
I have been researching there is many

7204
06:33:09,100 --> 06:33:11,100
documents studies on it let's make sure

7205
06:33:11,100 --> 06:33:13,100
all the board members have that and the

7206
06:33:13,100 --> 06:33:18,100
public has that. Option d which I like to

7207
06:33:18,100 --> 06:33:22,100
put forward on the numerical cap would

7208
06:33:22,100 --> 06:33:25,100
mean some level of what we have existing

7209
06:33:25,100 --> 06:33:29,100
plus a small addition and I'm not sure

7210
06:33:29,100 --> 06:33:32,100
what that is to incorporate those on the

7211
06:33:32,100 --> 06:33:34,100
waiting list that were caught in the

7212
06:33:34,100 --> 06:33:37,100
middle of this moratorium and those that

7213
06:33:37,100 --> 06:33:42,100
have who want to rent. I think I want to

7214
06:33:42,100 --> 06:33:46,100
see turnover, I want to see availability

7215
06:33:46,100 --> 06:33:49,100
of thesis and like to consider that

7216
06:33:49,100 --> 06:33:51,100
option. Many other-every other

7217
06:33:51,100 --> 06:33:55,100
jurisdiction in the basin has some of

7218
06:33:55,100 --> 06:33:57,100
restriction and if we lift this with no

7219
06:33:57,100 --> 06:34:00,100
cap I'm concerned and I'll argue about

7220
06:34:00,100 --> 06:34:02,100
that later but concerned as to what then

7221
06:34:02,100 --> 06:34:06,100
continues to happen. I don't care for the

7222
06:34:06,100 --> 06:34:10,201
maximum nights rented I do like minimum

7223
06:34:11,100 --> 06:34:14,100
nights. If be are going to cap we must

7224
06:34:14,100 --> 06:34:15,100
make sure they are used so we can

7225
06:34:15,100 --> 06:34:17,100
immediately take them back and get them

7226
06:34:17,100 --> 06:34:19,100
out into the hands of people waiting for

7227
06:34:19,100 --> 06:34:22,100
them. I told you already about the

7228
06:34:22,100 --> 06:34:25,601
waiting period. I totally agree and

7229
06:34:26,100 --> 06:34:28,100
forgot to mention this earlier on the