1 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,960 If you guys are here this evening and 2 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,039 wish to provide public comment, if you 3 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:20,880 could please fill out a speaker card if 4 00:07:20,880 --> 00:15:13,670 you haven't already done so. 5 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,519 Welcome and good evening everyone. Today 6 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:18,079 is Thursday, January 8th, 2026 and the 7 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:20,560 time is 6 pm. The special meeting of the 8 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,079 following will come to order. The 9 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:23,600 Victorville City Council and the same 10 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,959 council sitting as the Victorville 11 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:27,199 Library Board of Trustees. The Southern 12 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:29,519 California Logistics Airport Authority. 13 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:31,279 Successor Agency to the Redevelopment 14 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,839 Agency. The city as a housing asset 15 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:35,680 successor. Joint Powers Finance 16 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,120 Authority and the Victorville Water 17 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,880 District. Madame Clerk, will you kindly 18 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,600 call the role? 19 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,790 >> Council member Godam 20 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:40,800 » Council member Godam 21 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,470 >> here. Council member Irving, 22 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:42,480 » here. Council member Irving, 23 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,110 >> present. Council member Mora is absent. 24 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:45,120 » present. Council member Mora is absent. 25 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,320 Mayor Prom Herman 26 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:46,710 >> here. 27 00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:46,720 » here. 28 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,590 >> Mayor Bisera 29 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:47,600 » Mayor Bisera 30 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:47,910 >> here. 31 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:47,920 » here. 32 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,110 >> We have quorum. 33 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:49,120 » We have quorum. 34 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,269 >> Thank you. At this time, will you please 35 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:51,279 » Thank you. At this time, will you please 36 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:52,800 stand for invocation or pledge of 37 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,240 allegiance? The invocation tonight will 38 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,560 be led by our pastor Josh Gerbot from 39 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Victorville's First Assembly of God. And 40 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,000 the pledge will be led by Captain 41 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,590 Davenport. 42 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,720 » Thank you. I see you again, mayor. 43 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,480 Let's pray. God, thank you for a 44 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,720 beautiful night. Thank you for our city. 45 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,079 Lord, I think about our city as 46 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:14,000 established so many years ago. All the 47 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,279 people that are a part of it, the 48 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:17,279 families, Lord, the kids. I just pray, 49 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:19,680 God, tonight, Lord, your protection upon 50 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,920 our city, Lord, that your guidance on 51 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,600 our city economically, Lord, 52 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,519 politically, Lord, socially, Lord, that 53 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,680 you would continue to guide us. Lord, I 54 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,680 pray for our city council tonight, for 55 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,519 our mayor, Lord, and the city council 56 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:33,199 members, Lord, that you'd give them 57 00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:34,800 wisdom tonight, that you would guide 58 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,639 them, Lord, that every decision would be 59 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:38,560 made uh for your glory. So, pray your 60 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,639 blessings on this evening and on this 61 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:42,800 meeting and all that's here in the name 62 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,480 of Jesus. Amen. 63 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,310 >> Amen. 64 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,920 » Place your right hand over your heart. 65 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Ready? Begin. I pledge allegiance to the 66 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,839 flag of the United States of America and 67 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:58,639 to the republic for which it stands. One 68 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:01,600 nation under God, indivisible, with 69 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:10,309 liberty and justice for all. 70 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:11,760 » Thank you, Madame Clerk. Will you 71 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,280 present the agenda and any revisions 72 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,079 there, too? 73 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:15,270 >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. There are no 74 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:15,280 » Thank you, Madam Mayor. There are no 75 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,079 revisions to the agenda this evening. 76 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:19,600 I will call for conflict of interest 77 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,839 from any of my council members. None. 78 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:24,160 None. We will move on to item one, 79 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,120 written communication. City's position 80 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:29,120 on the county of Sanino's proposed 81 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,760 comprehensive treatment campus project. 82 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,440 Mr. Medro, would you kindly introduce 83 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,559 this item? 84 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:36,950 >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, and members of 85 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:36,960 » Thank you, Madame Mayor, and members of 86 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,840 the council. Uh, this item involves a 87 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,559 resolution memorializing a position of 88 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,440 opposition to a project being undertaken 89 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 by the county of Sanernardino upon uh 90 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,559 upon approximately 29 acres of property 91 00:17:50,559 --> 00:17:53,200 owned by it at the southeast corner of 92 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,000 Palmdale and Cobalt Road with Silverado 93 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 High School and Cobalt Institute of Math 94 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,799 and Science to the west uh and Laura 95 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,840 Middle School uh to the south. Uh on the 96 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,760 site currently, the county contracts 97 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,760 with the Phoenix House of California to 98 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,240 operate a 66 bed drug and alcohol 99 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,160 treatment facility. Uh the county 100 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,919 recently commenced construction of a 101 00:18:13,919 --> 00:18:16,080 significant expansion as the current 102 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,600 construction project is adding 103 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,400 approximately 144 beds uh which will 104 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,080 provide additional support services 105 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,720 including a youth psychiatric res 106 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,200 residential treatment uh adult and youth 107 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,960 residential substance use disorder 108 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 treatment, adult and youth outpatient 109 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,520 substance use disorder treatment, 110 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,919 withdrawal management and outpatient 111 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:39,360 wellness center services. Uh altogether 112 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,280 the project will increase bed capacity 113 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,400 to 210 which to make this uh scale 114 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,039 relatable is just shy of the region's uh 115 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:50,080 largest hospital the 213 bed St. Mary's 116 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Hospital uh in Apple Valley. Uh in 117 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,559 addition to what is under construction, 118 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:56,480 the county has applied for additional 119 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,080 state funding that could further 120 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,120 increase their bed and chair count by 72 121 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:03,280 for the following services. a 122 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,280 psychiatric health including acute care 123 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,240 crisis intervention and involuntary 5150 124 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,039 holds an adult social rehab uh and 247 125 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:14,960 crisis stabilization units and a 126 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,080 sobering center. So why are we here? Uh 127 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,679 first I think it's important to 128 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:22,240 recognize uh that Victorville and thei 129 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,039 and the entire high desert has a need uh 130 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:26,880 for these supportive services and the 131 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,240 county should be applauded for their 132 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,799 effort to address our community need. Uh 133 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:32,559 however, considering the approach the 134 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:34,240 county took to advance this project 135 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,919 forward, uh it's certainly not 136 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:38,400 reflective of a good governance 137 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,720 approach. I can say that because I've 138 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,880 reviewed enough of a chronology of 139 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,039 events uh to cause me to believe that 140 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,360 the county wasn't entirely forthcoming 141 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,200 uh with the city about its intentions 142 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,760 with this property, ignored our requests 143 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,760 about what planning and public noticing 144 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,919 process it would be following and failed 145 00:19:55,919 --> 00:19:57,600 to answer specific questions raised by 146 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,080 council members at a December 10th, 2025 147 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,039 community forum. Uh interestingly, the 148 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:04,640 community forum was the first attempt 149 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,440 seen by this city uh staff where uh the 150 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,880 county attempted to do community 151 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,799 outreach uh despite the fact that the 152 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:12,320 county had already approved its 153 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,039 environmental document on November 4th, 154 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,520 2025 and construction had already 155 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,480 started. Uh with all that said, the 156 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,559 county's preempt authority allows them 157 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:25,200 to do what they did. However, that does 158 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,120 not make what they did right. Good 159 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,960 governance would have more likely looked 160 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,840 like a formal invitation to affected 161 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919 public agencies such as the city, such 162 00:20:33,919 --> 00:20:36,000 as the high school district, such as the 163 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,679 residents. It would have in invited 164 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:39,520 residents in the surrounding areas to 165 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,600 provide input. Uh because none of that 166 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,280 happened, we didn't have an opportunity 167 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,120 to suggest pursuing an alternative 168 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,200 location. We didn't have an opportunity 169 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600 to determine if the project was going to 170 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600 fiscally impact the public services 171 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,000 already provided to the city and by this 172 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,919 city. uh we didn't have an opportunity 173 00:20:55,919 --> 00:20:58,720 to truly weigh the pros uh and the cons 174 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,159 of this project. Uh before I conclude, 175 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,400 uh before you tonight is a resolution 176 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,280 officially opposing phase one and phase 177 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,919 two of the project just described to you 178 00:21:09,919 --> 00:21:12,080 uh and that opposition remain intact 179 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,640 until such a time that we are satisfied 180 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,880 that the project has been relocated to a 181 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,760 more suitable location. is also it also 182 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,039 opposes any opposes any uh proposed 183 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:25,600 countywide sobering center unless and 184 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080 until potential impacts to our public 185 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,280 services can be uh mitigated and that we 186 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,200 oppose counties related funding efforts 187 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,919 until meaningful public engagement uh 188 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:39,039 has uh occurred at this time. Madame 189 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:41,280 Mayor, I do believe Miss Diane Rundles, 190 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,760 assistant CEO for the county, has a 191 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,400 brief presentation and following her is 192 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,559 Mr. Carl Kohl's, the Victor Valley Union 193 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:51,280 High School District Superintendent. 194 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,679 This item has been authored by your 195 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:56,480 deputy city manager, uh, Mr. Scott Webb, 196 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,480 both he and I, after the presentations, 197 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,760 we'll remain available for any questions 198 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,799 or comments you might have. 199 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,710 >> Thank you, sir. So, at this time, it's 200 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:04,720 » Thank you, sir. So, at this time, it's 201 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,080 my understanding that the county would 202 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,600 like to make a presentation regarding 203 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:16,310 this item. 204 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Good evening, Madame Mayor and members 205 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840 of council as well as leadership within 206 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,159 the city. My name is Diane Rundles. I'm 207 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:23,679 assistant executive officer with the 208 00:22:23,679 --> 00:22:25,440 county and I appreciate the opportunity 209 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,600 to speak about this project today. 210 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Our goal today is to clarify the scope 211 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,039 of this project and address any 212 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:34,880 questions you may have. We look forward 213 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,799 to a thoughtful discussion and 214 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,159 meaningful engagement as we work 215 00:22:38,159 --> 00:22:39,280 together to ensure the needs of 216 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,549 Victorville residents are met. 217 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:47,039 The St. John of God Healthcare Services 218 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:48,880 Center has served this region providing 219 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,559 withdrawal management services and 220 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,360 residential treatment since 1985 221 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,960 without disruption to surrounding 222 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,640 neighborhoods and is actively providing 223 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520 these services today. This history shows 224 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,240 that well-managed facilities can coexist 225 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,559 peacefully and even strengthen 226 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,720 communities. The initial purpose of the 227 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,559 comprehensive treatment campus was to 228 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,240 provide diverse levels of treatment and 229 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,080 care for individuals with with substance 230 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,919 use disorders. 231 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:15,600 Scope is now expanding to include 232 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,960 diverse levels of treatment for 233 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,039 individuals with mental health concerns, 234 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:21,760 but the intensity of operations does not 235 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,880 increase. By having added options for 236 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,480 treatment, the campus broadens the 237 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,240 staff's ability to provide more levels 238 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,200 of care. Keeping patients at this lower 239 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,960 level is good for the patients and the 240 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,640 community. 241 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,480 The goal is to enable individuals with 242 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,039 complex behavioral health needs to move 243 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:40,640 through the continuum of care and 244 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720 receive all necessary services in one 245 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,200 place and avoiding multiple trips to 246 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,520 local emergency rooms and hospitals or 247 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080 interactions with law enforcement. This 248 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,919 campus is currently operational with 249 00:23:51,919 --> 00:24:02,316 nine buildings and 66 treatment beds. 250 00:24:02,326 --> 00:24:02,880 [clears throat] 251 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:09,750 Apologies. 252 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,440 So phase one includes 51.4 4 million in 253 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,960 behavioral health continuing 254 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,240 infrastructure program BIUP grant with 255 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,640 outpatient co-occurring facility youth 256 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,120 wellness center for recovery and support 257 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,360 16 bed psychiatric residential treatment 258 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,720 facility a 16 bed adolescent substance 259 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,400 use disorder residential treatment 260 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,600 facility 36 bed adult substance use 261 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,679 disorder residential treatment facility 262 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:38,080 and an 18 bed withdrawal management 263 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,000 facility that there's also 10.5 million 264 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,159 from our community care expansion grant 265 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:46,080 dedicated to this project for 52 266 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,200 recovery residents beds. I want to note 267 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200 that phase one does not include a 268 00:24:51,200 --> 00:25:00,310 sobering center just for clarification. 269 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,159 These services will operate in a secure 270 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,320 gated portion of the campus designed 271 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480 specifically to provide a safe, 272 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,159 structured and compassionate environment 273 00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:15,190 for adults, youth, and families. 274 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,600 The high desert region accounts for 30% 275 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,320 of all consumers served in the substance 276 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,640 use disorder continuum of care and is 277 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,400 the highest referring region for I'm 278 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,159 going to refer to it as SUD for 279 00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:27,919 substance use disorder. Highest 280 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:30,080 referring region for SUD services in San 281 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,120 Bernardino County. Substance use has 282 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,520 significant ripple effects. In fiscal 283 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,240 year 2324, Victor Valley Union High 284 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,039 School District reported 251 drugrelated 285 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,360 suspensions, making drugs the second 286 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,440 highest cause for suspension. 287 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,360 Victorville ranked second highest in the 288 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:50,240 county for EMS overdose incidences with 289 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,240 454 cases in 2425. 290 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,799 A lack of SUD services has broad 291 00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:59,360 implications not only on individual 292 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,919 health but also on families, schools, 293 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,159 public safety, and the community. The 294 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:05,600 project is an opportunity to expand 295 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,520 these services for treatment capacity 296 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600 and make them meaningful positive impact 297 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,279 in the high desert community in the 298 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:18,630 entire region. 299 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,640 I want to touch on campus security and 300 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,789 logistics. 301 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,200 Safety is a top priority for this campus 302 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,279 as it has been throughout the year since 303 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,159 1985. Behavioral health facilities like 304 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:34,720 this have operated safely in 305 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 neighborhoods for decades. Programs are 306 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,279 licensed, accredited, and meet strict 307 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,480 standards of 247 staffing, secure 308 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,720 medication management, and emergency 309 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,360 response protocols. 310 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,440 Programs arrange transportation for 311 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,840 clients upon discharge to reduce impact 312 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,640 on the city. 313 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,400 Students and school staff have no 314 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,919 interaction with individuals from the 315 00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:01,520 campus campus staff 247 for supervision, 316 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,320 care and support. 317 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,080 Security measures. We will have 318 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,159 perimeter fencing and gates to control 319 00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:11,440 any kind of access and on-site trained 320 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,200 security personnel to monitor and 321 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,480 maintain safety. 322 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,039 A community advisory council based on 323 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,880 our lasting community engagement meeting 324 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960 will be established to uh to address 325 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,720 needs, logistics, security and 326 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,640 programming. 327 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,240 And this would be open to all community 328 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,679 members and we look forward to further 329 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,120 discussion about what that advisory 330 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:38,070 committee could look like. 331 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,640 Residential treatment 332 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,960 will provide 24-hour short-term care for 333 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,720 withdrawal management and rehabilitation 334 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,279 for substance use disorders overseen by 335 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:48,880 a medical director or licensed 336 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760 practitioner for for the healing arts. 337 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,520 We're offering sober living housing for 338 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,919 adults, including those with children. 339 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:57,600 Requires attendance at recovery or 340 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,080 treatment programs. This includes 341 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,840 education and employment support to help 342 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 clients transition to permanent housing 343 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,600 and integrate into the community. 344 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,520 We will provide services to maintain 345 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,360 substance use disorders and co-occurring 346 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,799 mental health issues simultaneously. 347 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:16,640 This use is integrated treatment pro 348 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,399 approach for better outcomes and improve 349 00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:20,559 quality of life. 350 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,360 All of these services are unlocked in 351 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:31,590 nature of the facilities. 352 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,360 For the adolescent services, we'll have 353 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,679 a 16 bed facility uh providing 354 00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:37,760 residential and recovery services for 355 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,279 adolescence with substance use 356 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,919 disorders. Admission based on medical 357 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:44,240 necessity and individual treatment plans 358 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,159 determined by a medical director or 359 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:47,919 LPHA. 360 00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:49,360 first of its this is the first of its 361 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,200 kind in San Frernardino serving 362 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,559 approximately 170 youth annually 363 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,159 for the adolescent psychiatric 364 00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:58,559 residential treatment facility this is a 365 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,880 16 bed facility inpatient psychiatric 366 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,880 care for adolescence who need more than 367 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,640 outpatient treatment but do not qualify 368 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,360 for psychiatric hospital 369 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520 stay is 10 days for stabilization and 370 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520 ongoing care and expected to serve about 371 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,919 500 youth annually 372 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,000 for the wellness center a resource hub 373 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480 would be located the two facilities 374 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480 providing recovery services and family 375 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,120 resources to support youth and families. 376 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,360 Access is limited to youth receiving 377 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:35,990 services at this campus. 378 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,520 We appreciate the opportunity to present 379 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,760 on this project today and reaffirm our 380 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,440 commitment to providing comprehensive 381 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,120 care that supports successful 382 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,960 transitions of every individual that we 383 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,960 serve. Upon entering any of the 384 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,480 treatment programs, each individual 385 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,919 receives a thorough assessment and 386 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:52,159 personalized treatment plan designed to 387 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:53,679 connect them with essential community 388 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:56,320 supports and resources. Our dedicated 389 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,960 case managers and care coordinators play 390 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,799 a critical role in guiding individuals 391 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,200 through this process and um addressing 392 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,799 case management needs and ensuring 393 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:06,960 smooth transitions of care. This 394 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,600 includes referrals to low intensity 395 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,360 treatment when appropriate as well as 396 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,600 connections to employment opportunities, 397 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,760 food resources, housing, and other vital 398 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,200 community supports. 399 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440 I do want to make a note right here um 400 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,679 to state that there was discussion about 401 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:25,919 phase two of this project and I do want 402 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:28,320 to say uh upon discussion with the 403 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,240 county administrative office and our CEO 404 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Luther Snoke, I do have authority to 405 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,520 share with you tonight that we are 406 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,440 actually going to pull phase two of this 407 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,120 project. So, I wanted to make that known 408 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,480 on the record. 409 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,520 Together, [clears throat] these efforts 410 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440 reflect our shared goal to provide not 411 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440 just treatment, but a pathway to 412 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,880 stability and success for every 413 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,279 individual we serve. Thank you for your 414 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,520 time and partnership as we work towards 415 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,799 building stronger, healthier 416 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:54,720 communities. These commitments align 417 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,559 with the sound the Sanino Countyy's 418 00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,200 countywide vision as well advancing the 419 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,039 city's Victorville strategic vision to 420 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,440 build a safer, cleaner, fiscally healthy 421 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,039 Victorville with strong community 422 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,440 connections, solid infrastructure, a 423 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,799 thriving economy, and reduced 424 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,279 homelessness. As we move forward, we 425 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,279 welcome continued collaboration with the 426 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:14,799 council, city staff, and community 427 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:16,399 partners to ensure the comprehensive 428 00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:18,720 treatment campus strengthens local 429 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,679 safety, connection, and opportunity. We 430 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,600 do appreciate the opportunity to speak 431 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,360 and forward. We look forward to working 432 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,679 together to deliver measurable outcomes 433 00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:29,919 for the city and families within the 434 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,159 community. 435 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:34,720 Thank you so much. 436 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,679 Thank you. At this time, I would like to 437 00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:39,600 call up Victor Valley Unified School 438 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,159 District. Mr. Kohl's, if you can come 439 00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:52,470 forward. 440 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,640 Thank you. And uh good evening uh madame 441 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200 mayor uh city council members, staff uh 442 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,799 and community members. Thank you for the 443 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,120 opportunity to just be able to uh speak 444 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,120 here in front of you tonight. My name is 445 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Carl Kohl's and I serve as the proud 446 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,320 superintendent of schools for the Victor 447 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Valley Union High School District. And 448 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200 today I am here on behalf of the 11,500 449 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760 students and over 2,000 staff members 450 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,679 comprising of our teachers, our 451 00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:17,760 counselors, classified employees, and 452 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,440 our management teams regarding the 453 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,360 behavioral health facility expansion 454 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,880 currently under construction off of 455 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360 Cobalt and Palmdale. 456 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,760 So let me first by uh let me first say 457 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,519 that this situation it's truly in 458 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,399 unforced air and it serves as an example 459 00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:34,720 of the utmost importance of authentic 460 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960 collaboration amongst public entities 461 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,279 that serve the same people and 462 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:41,039 communities. The authentic collaboration 463 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:44,640 it cannot happen in isolation. 464 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,320 I also want to continue to go on the 465 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320 record as supporting the behavioral 466 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,000 health and substance abuse services in 467 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,159 the high desert and the efforts of the 468 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:54,000 San Bernino County its elected 469 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,159 officials. the executive team and the 470 00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:58,240 behavioral health department. Our 471 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,919 concern is not whether these services 472 00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:01,840 are needed, it's the location of this 473 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720 project for our district. Over 4,000 474 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880 students in nearly 1,000 staff members 475 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,120 attend Silver Alder High School, Laura 476 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,960 Middle School, and Cobalt Institute of 477 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,760 Math and Science every day. As a 478 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,200 district, we have a long list of 479 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 concerns, but this is not a study 480 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,919 session. So, I will be brief on a few 481 00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:22,159 significant ones here tonight. Number 482 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,240 one, the only way for me to put this 483 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,919 project into perspective, and we've 484 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:27,919 heard some today, is to put some context 485 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:30,080 to it. Currently, there's over 60 beds 486 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,679 available to serve the community who 487 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,000 have drug and alcohol addiction. And we 488 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,679 are in no way opposed to the current 489 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:37,919 location or the services that are 490 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:40,880 currently being provided. In fact, the 491 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,559 facility was there before Silver Idol 492 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,360 High School was even built. However, 493 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,600 with the new design, we argue that this 494 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,159 is not a true expansion, but rather a 495 00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:52,240 whole new concept of concept of 496 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,480 services. What has been approved and 497 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,320 authorized by the county of Sanernardino 498 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,760 is 210 beds with a continuum of services 499 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,919 ranging from a detox center, outpatient 500 00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:04,240 services, residential care, psychiatric 501 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,039 care, just to name a few. If at any 502 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,520 point our schools tripled in size, it's 503 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,399 not just a scale issue. It truly changes 504 00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:14,960 the dynamic of teaching and learning and 505 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960 the safety. St. Mary's, it's been told 506 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,359 today is the largest hospital up in here 507 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,839 in the high desert. And as a hospital 508 00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:24,320 with 213 beds, this facility is going to 509 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,159 rival one of the largest care facilities 510 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,480 in the high desert. Managing a facility 511 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,079 of this size, it comes with multiple 512 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,480 organizational and safety uh measures 513 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040 that do not belong adjacent to a middle 514 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,879 school and across the street from a 515 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:39,200 large comprehensive high school. 516 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,200 Additionally, the facility in question, 517 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,159 it sits on 29 acres. To put that in 518 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,639 perspective, Silverado sits on about 50 519 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,119 acres. And then when you add Cobalt to 520 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,520 it, that sits at about 65 acres. Just to 521 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,399 put some context to what 29 acres is. 522 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:56,720 And the current design and layout are at 523 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,119 the closest points to our schools. They 524 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,960 can't get any closer. We were there 525 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,839 today. We took pictures. The grading, 526 00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:06,400 it's going to border the defense line 527 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,280 with our schools. 528 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 The current ingress and egress point is 529 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,400 going to be off of Cobalt, which is 530 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,000 already a complete mess. I don't know 531 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,520 another word to say, but it's a complete 532 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,000 mess in the morning and in the afternoon 533 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,079 because nearly 4,000 students who ride 534 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,240 buses, they walk or they're dropped off 535 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,320 coming and going to school. Currently, 536 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,720 there's 30 parking spots in the current 537 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,800 facility, and the project design calls 538 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,400 for an additional 250 parking spots. On 539 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,800 December 22nd, during a special uh board 540 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,720 meeting, the district formally opposed 541 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:40,560 the county's action regarding the site 542 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,400 location through a board action and 543 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,079 direct communication with county with 544 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,280 the county of San Bernardino's 545 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,520 representatives. We did so because the 546 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,440 facility's immediate proximity to three 547 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,359 active school campuses and the 548 00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:53,200 unresolved questions and concerns that 549 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,000 it raises. Those questions and concerns 550 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,079 include student and staff uh student and 551 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,160 staff safety, emergency response 552 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,119 coordination, traffic impacts, uh 553 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,680 operational disruptions, amongst others. 554 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,520 We also know that none of us in this 555 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,839 room can guarantee an outcome, which is 556 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:11,599 why it is irresponsible to add the 557 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,920 safety concerns to all schools 558 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,440 throughout the United States that we 559 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,400 already currently face on a daily basis. 560 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,720 For example, just last month, a detainee 561 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,400 escaped the Victor Valley Global Medical 562 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,000 Center, forcing Victor Valley High 563 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,920 School to go on a lockdown for hours, 564 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,760 and it required additional police 565 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,359 officers from the indivi until the 566 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:30,560 individual was detained by law 567 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040 enforcement. And that medical center is 568 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,640 several blocks from the Victor Valley 569 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,880 High School. Not to mention, the 570 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,240 district does not believe that a 571 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,839 large-scale drug and alcohol 572 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:41,920 rehabilitation center is an appropriate 573 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,079 backdrop for our students to see every 574 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:45,520 day. 575 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,359 Schools should be surrounded by parks. 576 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:48,880 They should be surrounded by communities 577 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,119 and homes. The environment in which 578 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:52,800 students attend is equally as important 579 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,680 as to the academics, as to the arts, the 580 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640 activities and and the athletics uh that 581 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,160 schools provide to our students every 582 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,720 day. These are not theoretical issues. 583 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,480 They are practical realities that we 584 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,200 manage daily in our schools. The county 585 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,119 of Sanernardino did not notify the 586 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:10,960 school district, so we were completely 587 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,280 blindsided until the construction fences 588 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,720 went up. 589 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,400 And although the district recognizes the 590 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Sanino County's autonomy to exempt 591 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,240 itself from the environmental impact 592 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,800 study under the welfare code, nor do 593 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,560 they actually have a legal obligation to 594 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,280 collaborate beforehand. But which begs 595 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,079 the question, what you can do and what 596 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,760 you should do are two very different 597 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,079 things. I have personally met with 598 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,000 several students and staff and not one 599 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,320 of them has expressed a belief that the 600 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,720 location of the facility is appropriate 601 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,680 or responsible. But on the flip side, 602 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,599 One of them have mentioned that it is 603 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,160 not needed in the high desert. 604 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,560 Despite many concerns raised, the 605 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,160 construction activity, it still 606 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,160 continues. That is why the district 607 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,079 fully supports the city in passing a 608 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,480 resolution that is before you tonight. 609 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,240 Similarly, the district is asking the 610 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,599 county to pause until uh to pause 611 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,079 further work at the site and engage in a 612 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:07,680 more deliberate process with community 613 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,079 input. Specifically, we're asking for 614 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,320 the support of city leadership and the 615 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,720 community at large as we request three 616 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,200 things from the county. First, that a 617 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,160 full study is conducted and meaningful 618 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,040 with meaningful eval evaluative uh 619 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,680 impacts on all of our schools. Second, 620 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,359 that the county consider alternative 621 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:29,520 locations that can meet service needs 622 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,119 without placing this burden on our 623 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,680 school communities. And third, during 624 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,839 this time, the pause that there be a 625 00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:38,160 structured community input, including 626 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,000 parents, staff, and nearby residents 627 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,640 before decisions are finalized. We're 628 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,480 not here by any means to obstruct the 629 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560 services or delay care. We're here to 630 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,160 advocate for our students, our staff, 631 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,240 and our families. We believe there is a 632 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,000 path forward that serves the broader 633 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,400 community while protecting our schools. 634 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,640 We believe this requires a pause. It 635 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,800 requires transparency, collaboration, 636 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,280 and true partnership. We appreciate the 637 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,720 city of Victorville's attention to this 638 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,640 issue and your continued advocacy for 639 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,400 responsible planning in our community. 640 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,069 Thank you. 641 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,069 » Thank you. 642 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:15,760 At this time, we are going to move on to 643 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,079 public comment. I will remind the 644 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,200 public, you'll have three minutes. 645 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,839 You will be respectful to everybody in 646 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,960 here, folks. So, let's keep it forward. 647 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,640 Our 648 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,400 our first speaker is Dr. Elise 649 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,047 Belelfford Selana. 650 00:39:35,057 --> 00:39:35,839 [clears throat] 651 00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:37,910 >> Hello, my name is Dr. Alice Belelfford 652 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:37,920 » Hello, my name is Dr. Alice Belelfford 653 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,880 Selona and I am a deputy director for 654 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,917 the county of San Bernardino. 655 00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:45,200 [clears throat] Excuse me. I'm here just 656 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,599 to speak to you on a personal level, but 657 00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,160 also tie it into the work that we do and 658 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,760 how this campus will be affected. Um, 659 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,359 I'll just say this that I um can tell 660 00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:59,040 you a really quick story. I lost my 661 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,240 sister um 20 years ago to addiction. She 662 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,000 froze to death in a car and died. Her um 663 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,119 she was she was high. She was overdosed 664 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:11,599 um in the vehicle. And I'll never forget 665 00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,440 a story. We lived in Riverside at the 666 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,960 time and we were trying to take her 667 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,079 because they didn't have treatment 668 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,560 centers in the local community. they had 669 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,000 to bust them out to the desert. And when 670 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,800 they um when I went to take her to get 671 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,359 on the bus, I'll never forget the moment 672 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:28,960 I looked back in the rearview mirror of 673 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,720 my car and I saw her running down the 674 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,359 street. She was scared. She didn't want 675 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:35,599 to leave the community she knew and 676 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,680 therefore 677 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,720 left and and never was successful in 678 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,680 going to treatment. I too as a member of 679 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,000 Sanino County have lived here most of my 680 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,240 life. I call this home and I'm very 681 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,560 proud to be an employee of the county of 682 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,560 San Bernardino now where I have the 683 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,520 opportunity to oversee programs that can 684 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,079 make differences in people's lives. I 685 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,960 too can tell you that I have had my own 686 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,880 experiences doing really stupid things 687 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,200 like drugs and alcohol getting caught up 688 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,800 in the system and almost failing my life 689 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,359 on multiple occasions. I was lucky 690 00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:13,280 enough to have people that came to me 691 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,119 and said, "You can do better. You are 692 00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,839 better. be better. And I said, "Okay, 693 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:19,680 how? Show me." Because I was super 694 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,319 angry. And I just didn't think that that 695 00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:24,400 was possible. And what ended up 696 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,079 happening is I allowed the help to 697 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,160 happen. And today, I can stand before 698 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,920 you and say, "I'm an executive manager 699 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,079 for the county of San Bernardino. I'm a 700 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,800 high school dropout. I have my doctorate 701 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,119 degree. Today, when they came to help 702 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,720 me, they didn't say to me, Dr. 703 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,200 Belelfford or Alice at the time, we want 704 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,640 to help you, but we don't want to help 705 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,880 you here. we want you to move to the 706 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,680 valley or to some other location where 707 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,520 you won't be seen by people who know 708 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680 you. They actually said we're going to 709 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,520 do it right here where it's going to 710 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,359 make a difference in the community that 711 00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:58,640 you reside. These treatment centers are 712 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,960 not for people who are forced into 713 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,119 treatment. These are people who want 714 00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,800 help. These are not easy programs to 715 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,119 participate in. They have highly 716 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,520 structured environments where they wake 717 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,119 up at 6 in the morning. and they eat 718 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,440 breakfast at 6:30. They're at group by 719 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,880 8:00. They run groups all day long. They 720 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,640 learn how to take responsibility for 721 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040 their lives. They learn how to be better 722 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,920 contributing citizens. It's not because 723 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,160 of the location that they're at that 724 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,160 makes them better at who they are, but 725 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,720 it is always better to be close to home 726 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,800 because that's the environment that 727 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,200 you're going to thrive in. And I know 728 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,960 many of us walk 729 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,230 >> your time is up. 730 00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:40,240 » your time is up. 731 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,589 >> Thank you. 732 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:41,599 » Thank you. 733 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:53,030 Our next speaker is Moch Blumenstein. 734 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,040 » Good evening, Mayor and Council members. 735 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,880 My name is Michael Blumenstein and I'm 736 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,720 here to speak speak based on personal 737 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,960 experience. I was once a client of a 738 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200 crisis stabilization unit and during one 739 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,720 of the most difficult moments of my 740 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,720 life, that support helped me feel safe, 741 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,119 respected, and heard. Because of that 742 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,200 experience, I saw firsthand how powerful 743 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,119 these services are, not just in 744 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,359 stabilizing a crisis, but in restoring 745 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:17,520 hope. I later had the opportunity to 746 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,440 give back by starting as a peer support 747 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,760 worker using my lived experience to help 748 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,480 others navigate their own crisis. Since 749 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,920 then, I've grown into a quality 750 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960 assurance data clerk role where I now I 751 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,800 now help ensure these programs remain 752 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,880 effective, accountable, and responsive 753 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,520 to community needs. I've seen the impact 754 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,359 of outreach and connecting people to 755 00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:39,680 support before situations escalate. And 756 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,599 I've witnessed how peer support builds 757 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,520 trust and reduce stigma in ways 758 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,880 traditional systems often can't. Crisis 759 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,359 stabilization units outreach and peer 760 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:51,359 support don't just change outcomes, they 761 00:43:51,359 --> 00:43:53,119 change lives. And I am living proof of 762 00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:56,800 that. Thank you for your time. 763 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:14,630 >> Our next speaker is Rachel Wish. 764 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,400 Good evening, Madame Mayor, council 765 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,400 members, and staff. My name is Rachel 766 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,400 Wish, and I'm a teacher at Silverado 767 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,319 High School, one of the schools directly 768 00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:25,200 adjacent to the proposed expansion of 769 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,280 the comprehensive treatment campus. And 770 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,520 I'm here tonight to ask you not to 771 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,839 approve this expansion. I want to be 772 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:34,400 very clear. I support access to these 773 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040 type of services. Our families, our 774 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,359 students, our community absolutely need 775 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:41,520 them. And this is not about stigma. It's 776 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,599 about process, transparency, and 777 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,920 location. And right now, all three are 778 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,000 deeply concerning. The decision to move 779 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,760 forward without conducting an impact 780 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,319 study raises serious questions. When a 781 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:54,160 facility sits directly next to three 782 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,880 schools serving over 4,000 students, the 783 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,560 failure to formally evaluate safety, 784 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,040 traffic, emergency response, campus 785 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,280 supervision, and student well-being is 786 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,920 not a minor oversight. It suggests a 787 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,720 deliberate choice to avoid scrutiny. If 788 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,480 there are other teachers, parents, 789 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,240 students, or community members here 790 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,640 tonight who share these concerns, I 791 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,200 invite you to stand up right now. 792 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,760 The absence of an impact study does not 793 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,000 mean that there is no impact. It means 794 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560 the county chose not to look. As a 795 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,400 teacher on one of these campuses, I can 796 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,400 tell you that schools are not insulated 797 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,960 environments. We manage the arrival and 798 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,000 dismissal congestion, campus security, 799 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000 lockdown protocols, and emotional 800 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,720 well-being of students every single day. 801 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,960 An expansion of this nature, especially 802 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,720 without coordinated or assess 803 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,800 coordination or assessment, directly 804 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,880 affects our ability to do our jobs and 805 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,200 keep our students safe. Equally 806 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,920 important, this is the wrong location. 807 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,839 Schools are highdensity environments 808 00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:58,400 with minors present for most of the day. 809 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,000 Putting a facility of this nature 810 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,920 immediately adjacent to multiple school 811 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,440 sites without heightened review 812 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,599 disregards best practices and planning 813 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:06,800 and the student centered 814 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,280 decision-making. There are locations in 815 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,839 the city that make much more sense. What 816 00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:13,520 is most troubling is that school 817 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,119 communities were not meaningfully 818 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,359 consulted early in the process. 819 00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:19,599 Teachers, admin, facility, and districts 820 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,839 should not be finding out after fences 821 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,160 are up and dirt is being moved. That 822 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160 undermines the trust and damages the 823 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,839 relationship between the county, the 824 00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:29,280 city, and the people who serve the 825 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,280 children every day. You have the 826 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,880 authority and the responsibility to 827 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,119 pause this decision, require a full 828 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:36,960 impact study and reconsider the 829 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,960 location. This is responsible 830 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,200 governance. I urge you not to improve 831 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,200 the expansion as proposed because our 832 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,359 desert our students deserve thoughtful 833 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:47,839 planning, transparency, and decisions 834 00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:49,920 that place their safety and well-being 835 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,230 first. Thank you. 836 00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:01,589 » Our next speaker is Ed Marino. 837 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,480 Good evening, guys, staff. Um, I was 838 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,440 just aware of the uh proposition that's 839 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,520 going on. Like I said, I'm literally a 840 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,520 resident. I live about two two and a 841 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,920 half blocks from the proposed location. 842 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,400 I have uh two three kids, two daughters, 843 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,319 and a son. Um, both of my girls uh go to 844 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:21,920 uh well, they went to Discovery, now 845 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,240 that they're going to SIMS. As a parent, 846 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,040 it's very troubling to hear that they're 847 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,920 planning to do this really close to my 848 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,839 home staff. You know, there there's 849 00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:34,000 there's families around the area. It's 850 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,720 it's just not it's it's not I'm not okay 851 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,560 with it. You know, I'm asking and I'm 852 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,800 pleading you guys to to please stop 853 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,000 this. You know, it's 854 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,839 it's just troubling. You know, I I 855 00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,160 literally I I work in Ontario. I left 856 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,880 work. I just found out I was emailed 857 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,400 today that you guys were having this 858 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,680 this uh meeting. I left work to be here 859 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,640 to to basically let you guys know that 860 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,200 that this is not this not okay, you 861 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,040 know, and and I thank you for for 862 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,640 everything you guys are doing. I I hope 863 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,440 and I pray that that God give you guys 864 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,359 wisdom and we as a community stand not 865 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,200 for this, not not we don't our kids 866 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440 deserve better. You know, that's all I'm 867 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,880 asking. Thank you. 868 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:39,910 >> Our next speaker is Christian Viscara. 869 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,559 Um, hello. My name is Christian Riscara. 870 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:45,200 I am a senior at Silverado High School. 871 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440 I am also a part of my school's ASB 872 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,839 leadership and I'm here on behalf of my 873 00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:52,000 other ASB classmates and the other 874 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,000 student boss, the other student body 875 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,240 that attends my school. First off, I 876 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,440 would like to start off by saying that 877 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,119 the way that this was introduced was 878 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:00,720 very unprofessional on the county's 879 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,280 behalf. Neither of the school the 880 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,720 schools in the area or the residents 881 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,319 were notified of the treatment facility 882 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,480 when the construction first started. 883 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,240 Many residents and students are still 884 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,160 not aware of this facility being built 885 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,160 so close to our community. I am 886 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,920 knowledgeable that yes, we do need these 887 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,760 kind of programs especially in the high 888 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,079 desert. Although the location of where 889 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,160 is being built is very inappropriate. 890 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,920 The county project stated that there 891 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,079 will be no impact because there is no 892 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:27,760 demand for new expansions of school 893 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,400 facilities. This is not only false but a 894 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,400 slap to the surrounding community's fa 895 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,839 face. You show no regard or interest in 896 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:38,400 the safety of the surrounding area. Why 897 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,240 do we need new school facilities to show 898 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,920 concern when there's already school 899 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,319 facilities? Now, there are many risk 900 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:49,119 factors for the area that it's in. What 901 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,599 if one of these residents just just 902 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,000 flip? How can you guys guarantee that 903 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,440 this person won't leave your open 904 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,920 facility and walk out onto nearby school 905 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,839 grounds? All three schools in the 906 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:01,440 surrounding area have constant after 907 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,960 school activities and leave our gates 908 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,920 open 24/7. Not only will this affect us 909 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,880 during school hours, but even after. I 910 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,559 am aware that St. John's has been here 911 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,720 for over 30 years with no issues, but 912 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,280 this is not a minor expansion. This is a 913 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,359 major expansion with over two head with 914 00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:20,319 200 beds being built. the chances of a 915 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:22,240 problem happening majorly increase and 916 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:24,000 when there is a chance and risk it is 917 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,760 not worth it especially with the 918 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,760 surrounding environment. If this 919 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,520 facility is built will it not only 920 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,839 affect my generation 921 00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:35,440 um other kids siblings, my kids or even 922 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,280 my grandchildren. 923 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,599 Um 924 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:41,760 so I would like to say that again I am 925 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,440 in support of such treatments being open 926 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,520 for people who need them. But again the 927 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,760 location is very inappropriate. I will 928 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,640 finish off if that if construction if 929 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,960 construction continues, not only will 930 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,240 you continue to hear from the school 931 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,079 board, but the many residents and 932 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:57,440 thousands of students that are in this 933 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,589 community today. Thank you. 934 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:16,150 » Our next speaker is Melissa B. 935 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,920 Good evening. 936 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,845 My name is Melissa Buchary 937 00:51:19,845 --> 00:51:21,520 [clears throat] and I am actually a 938 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,160 resident of City of Victorville um since 939 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,160 about four years old. So that's about 32 940 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,760 years. 941 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,720 I am a professional therapist that works 942 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,800 in addiction specialties right in a 943 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,280 healthcare setting. I have worked in 944 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,880 this community in a community aspect for 945 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,240 much of my career before college um 946 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,319 substitute taught before becoming a 947 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:45,359 therapist. So I've been doing this for 948 00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:48,240 about 11 years and I come to you as a 949 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:50,640 resident to be able to say I understand 950 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,000 many of the concerns that have been 951 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,440 expressed. I can see them from a lot of 952 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,000 angles. But my encouragement as a 953 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,559 resident who lives within a few miles of 954 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,280 the new facility, which is actually an 955 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,119 expansion, right, of Phoenix House 956 00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:04,720 Services, 957 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,599 this is so needed and we have an 958 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:10,319 opportunity as voted in by Proposition 959 00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:14,319 One, right? And this is um something 960 00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:15,839 that has been very nerve-wracking for me 961 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:17,200 to share with you, but I want you to 962 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,599 hear my heart. We can look at 963 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,280 statistics. We can look at all of the 964 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,520 highest needs. I hear them daily. The 965 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,760 calls of heartbreaking family members 966 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,359 and how I can best direct them to 967 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:29,680 treatment services to get them in. When 968 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,520 they need alcohol detox or withdrawal 969 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,359 management services, they're out of the 970 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:36,480 area. This can bring jobs. I understand 971 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,800 the schools. I understand everything for 972 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,599 the community. But I urge my leaders, 973 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,319 this is our opportunity to pioneer, 974 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:46,319 to take leadership. Victorville has 975 00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:48,319 always been innovative 976 00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:51,359 and in a sense where we can set the tone 977 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:54,160 for okay how do we sit down have 978 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,319 conversations with respect to an 979 00:52:56,319 --> 00:52:58,319 important time frame this is the first 980 00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:00,960 time we have an opportunity with VHIP 981 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,119 but department of healthcare services 982 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,880 has set a timeline for that and that's 983 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,640 very important to be mindful of so I 984 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,720 encourage you to be mindful and um 985 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,680 encouraging to to say hey we have a lot 986 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,960 of partners 987 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,280 How can we come alongside each other and 988 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,280 unify to bring the necessary services 989 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,400 alterations but expediting because there 990 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640 is a time frame and it is hard to open a 991 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,200 treatment center. Takes about 5 years to 992 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,319 get a medical approval from the state. 993 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:35,440 So there's a lot of treatment services. 994 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,880 Substance use disorder and mental 995 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,359 services does not discriminate. I see it 996 00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:41,040 in our healthcare setting every day. Our 997 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,359 youth are hurting and they do not get 998 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:46,160 transferred out out of the area nearest 999 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,839 to us for a higher level of care for 1000 00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:50,720 psychiatric services is Colton. 1001 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:52,240 We're done and we send them for 1002 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:53,680 appropriate levels of care. We 1003 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,319 understand many of the medical um 1004 00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:58,240 necessity stabilization before 1005 00:53:58,240 --> 00:53:59,839 appropriate referrals to the coordinated 1006 00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:04,160 history system of care for entry. So 1007 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,480 concerns in that regard for for 1008 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,640 treatment being provided. We should take 1009 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,200 a look at the other facilities and how 1010 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,760 Phoenix House is operating now where 1011 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,800 there isn't many to 1012 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,400 I think hinder. 1013 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,990 >> Your time is up. 1014 00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:20,000 » Your time is up. 1015 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,630 >> Please. 1016 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:20,640 » Please. 1017 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,510 >> Thank you. 1018 00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:21,520 » Thank you. 1019 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:36,790 >> Our next speaker is Stephanie Landez. 1020 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,559 Good evening, members of the board, 1021 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,720 city, and community members. My name is 1022 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,720 Stephanie Landez, and I am both a parent 1023 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:44,800 of a sophomore at Silverado High School 1024 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,359 and the activities director. I have the 1025 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,040 help the privilege to help facilitate 1026 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,119 and guide 70 high school students within 1027 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,760 our associated student body. I am here 1028 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,839 tonight to share their voice and their 1029 00:54:55,839 --> 00:54:57,359 concerns regarding the development 1030 00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:59,359 occurring for the rehab uh center 1031 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:01,440 directly across the street. And while we 1032 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,960 understand that the final decisions and 1033 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,800 issues actually rest with the county and 1034 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,800 not the city, we felt it important to 1035 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,240 have their voices heard in a public 1036 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,640 forum so that the city is aware of the 1037 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,960 Associated Student Body perspective. And 1038 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,520 thank you, Christian, for sharing. 1039 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,359 I'm here tonight on behalf of more than 1040 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:19,520 2,000 students from Silverado High 1041 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,280 School who attend school every day 1042 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,760 around this proposed site. I am speaking 1043 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,520 for students whose voices were not 1044 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,760 meaningful incl meaningfully included in 1045 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,079 this decision but who will live with its 1046 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,319 consequences. So here is what they have 1047 00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:34,240 to say. Let us be clear from the 1048 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,480 beginning. Students support behavioral 1049 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,200 health and substance abuse treatment. We 1050 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,200 understand its importance. Our concern 1051 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,119 is not whether the treatment facilities 1052 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,359 should exist. It's where they're placing 1053 00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:48,799 this one. We walk these streets. We wait 1054 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:51,359 at these crosswalks. We experience 1055 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:54,160 lockdowns. traffic gridlocks and safety 1056 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,640 drills, not as policy discussions, but 1057 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,640 as interruptions to our learning and our 1058 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,200 own sense of safety. Making a 1059 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,440 large-scale open treatment facility the 1060 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,000 front door to our schools introduces 1061 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,319 risks that students can't simply opt out 1062 00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:10,799 of. Schools should be places where 1063 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:13,040 students feel safe, welcomed, and proud 1064 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,960 where they learn. Instead, this 1065 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,839 placement risks creating fear, anxiety, 1066 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:19,680 long-term damage to school climate, 1067 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,480 enrollment, and community confidence. 1068 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,000 Students are also concerned about 1069 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,920 messaging. Adolescence are still 1070 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,079 developing. School work schools work 1071 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:29,599 intentionally to promote prevention, 1072 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:31,440 healthy choices, and accountability. 1073 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,359 Placing a large-scale drug and alcohol 1074 00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:34,960 treatment facility adjacent to our 1075 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,359 campus risks unintentionally normalizing 1076 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:39,440 substance abuse, not because treatment 1077 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960 is wrong, but because location matters. 1078 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,400 At the same time, students believe 1079 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,760 strongly that patients in recovery 1080 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,000 deserve dignity, privacy, and the best 1081 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,920 po possible environment for healing. 1082 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,400 Recovery is fra fragile. A densely 1083 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,720 populated, hightraic school zone 1084 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,799 surrounded by thousands of students does 1085 00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:59,040 not support that goal. That location 1086 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,839 fails both students and patients. 1087 00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:03,839 Traffic is already overwhelming. The 1088 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:05,520 two-lane road serving these schools as 1089 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,079 gridlocks for hours every morning and 1090 00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,079 every afternoon. Thousands of students 1091 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,160 walk the corridor daily, many after 1092 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,799 sunrise or before before sunrise and 1093 00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:16,799 after dark. Their routes can't be 1094 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:18,319 changed. Their schedules cannot be 1095 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,799 adjusted. Their safety depends on adult 1096 00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:22,960 decisions. Students feel unheard. 1097 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,559 Decisions about our safety and learning 1098 00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:26,079 environment were made without us at the 1099 00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,079 table. Please listen to us. We're not 1100 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,079 asking for convenience. We're asking for 1101 00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:32,160 responsibility, transparency, and 1102 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,160 safety. Thank you. 1103 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,270 >> Thank you. 1104 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,720 Madame Mayor, I do not have any 1105 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,760 additional speaker cards. 1106 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,270 >> I know some people got here late. 1107 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:45,280 » I know some people got here late. 1108 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,910 Anybody else with a speaker card? 1109 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,839 » Let's bring them over to our city clerk, 1110 00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:57,839 please. His name is Roger 1111 00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:05,910 Yinski. 1112 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,559 Good evening, mayor, city council. Uh my 1113 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,559 name is Roger Yaminsky. I'm the CEO of 1114 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:12,480 Citrus Counseling Services or not 1115 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,079 for-profit behavioral health clinic 1116 00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,480 system. Uh one of our clinics is here in 1117 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,880 your town. And um you know, from what 1118 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,000 I've heard here, I think of um you know, 1119 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,359 something that I'm very familiar with, 1120 00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,280 which is in the absence of information, 1121 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,799 people make up the worst possible 1122 00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:29,359 stories. And so I think that you know, 1123 00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:32,400 it sounds like um our concerns that the 1124 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,760 uh the county could have done a much 1125 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,400 better job in terms of uh providing some 1126 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,920 information, letting people know about 1127 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,440 this project, what the impact is going 1128 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,000 to be, etc. Um that being said, from 1129 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,160 what we do and what we see and what my 1130 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,240 staff experiences, 1131 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,160 uh this particular project is something 1132 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,720 that's sorely needed in this area. There 1133 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,440 are incredible weight lists uh for the 1134 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,359 types of services that are going to be 1135 00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,680 provided by this particular project that 1136 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,400 is incredibly needed. Not having this 1137 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,160 has um some serious impact on human 1138 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,359 lives, especially young people. Uh what 1139 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:12,640 this can do is can do it can prevent um 1140 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,480 and treat a lot of things that are going 1141 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,200 on with trauma, with substance use, 1142 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,000 domestic violence, human trafficking, 1143 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,599 etc. So based on that, um I just want to 1144 00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:25,280 speak in support of this particular 1145 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,440 project. I hope that there's a way that 1146 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,280 uh this council and this community can 1147 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,520 work together to figure out how to make 1148 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,559 it uh go forward and understand, you 1149 00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:38,400 know, possibly what the um potential uh 1150 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400 issues are with it and come up with 1151 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,040 reasonable ways to mitigate that. Um 1152 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,200 it's an incredible opportunity with 1153 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,119 these funds that are available that 1154 00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,520 don't come around very often. Uh and it 1155 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,040 would be a terrible thing to lose that 1156 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,720 in this community. So, thank you very 1157 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,680 much for your time and your 1158 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,000 consideration. I appreciate it. 1159 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,870 Thank you. 1160 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,520 I would like to read a statement. 1161 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,440 First of all, I think it's important to 1162 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,520 recognize and appreciate the input from 1163 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,520 the county, the school district, and 1164 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,920 even the staff regarding this matter. 1165 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,559 With all that said, I remain surprised 1166 01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,240 how quickly the county moved on this 1167 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,160 project forward when you consider all 1168 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,920 that's typically involved to move to 1169 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,559 move a project forward. obtaining 1170 01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:25,200 funding and obtain the res the requisite 1171 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,400 land use approval to construct. This 1172 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,559 project has moved at a pace that I have 1173 01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:35,750 never seen from the county. 1174 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,920 They chose instead of involving our 1175 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,799 community to ram this project through, 1176 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,559 dump it on the residents of the city of 1177 01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:44,720 Victorville and the parents of the high 1178 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,720 school district with zero regard for our 1179 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,720 concerns. 1180 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,799 And we asked, does this mean that the 1181 01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:53,280 first district supervisor doesn't care 1182 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,040 what happens in Victorville? I don't 1183 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,200 think so. I would like to believe that 1184 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,440 is not the case. Prior to this action by 1185 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,760 the county, I believe the county and the 1186 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,520 first district supervisor cared about 1187 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,760 this community. But I definitely 1188 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,240 questioning now that given the warp 1189 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,960 speed that this project has moved. 1190 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,640 Finally, I have no doubt about the need 1191 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,640 for the services that are being 1192 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,319 contemplated by the county with this 1193 01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:19,359 project. The problem is location. And 1194 01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:21,520 like they say, location, location, 1195 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,319 location. The problem is not knowing how 1196 01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:26,400 this project will physically impact this 1197 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,559 community. I have no doubt that the 1198 01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:31,040 county reached out to us like a partner, 1199 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,680 we would not be here today and we would 1200 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,480 be more focused on a suitable location. 1201 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,720 I urge my fellow council members to 1202 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,559 adopt the resolution opposed in this 1203 01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,040 project. And I encourage every resident 1204 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,640 of the city of Victorville to reach out 1205 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,880 to your first district supervisor, the 1206 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,720 board of supervisor of San Marino 1207 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,440 County, the Sun newspaper, and express 1208 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,280 their concern about this county's wrong 1209 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,200 deal. 1210 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,640 Now, at this time, we will take 1211 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,160 questions from my fellow council 1212 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,000 members. We'll start off with Council 1213 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,119 Member God. 1214 01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:02,390 >> I'm sorry, Madame Mayor. Would you like 1215 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:02,400 » I'm sorry, Madame Mayor. Would you like 1216 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,680 me to read the recommendation? 1217 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,030 >> That would be good, too. Thank you. 1218 01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:05,040 » That would be good, too. Thank you. 1219 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,870 >> You're welcome. that the honorable city 1220 01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:06,880 » You're welcome. that the honorable city 1221 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,680 council adopt resolution number 25 1222 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,079 26-00005 1223 01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:14,240 thereby formally opposing the county of 1224 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,160 San Bernardino's proposed comprehensive 1225 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,480 treatment campus expansion in its 1226 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,000 current proposed location and 1227 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,720 configuration and opposing the award of 1228 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,640 state of California behavioral health 1229 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,119 continuum infrastructure program funding 1230 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:29,119 for the projects proposed within the 1231 01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:31,359 city of Victorville due to the lack of 1232 01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:33,119 community engagement and further 1233 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:35,119 directing staff to transmit the city's 1234 01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:36,880 position ition to the county board of 1235 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,520 supervisors, state legislator, 1236 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,599 legislators, and relevant state funding 1237 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:44,480 agencies. 1238 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,069 >> Thank you. At this time, we'll start 1239 01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:46,079 » Thank you. At this time, we'll start 1240 01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:47,760 with questions from council members. 1241 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,359 Council member Kodan. 1242 01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:50,710 >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. I do have 1243 01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:50,720 » Thank you, Madam Mayor. I do have 1244 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,880 several questions as this is a very 1245 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,799 complex situation. Um my first question, 1246 01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:59,200 um in the uh presentation that we 1247 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,119 received from the county to start off 1248 01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:02,880 the meeting, there was some um 1249 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,040 indication that this would be something 1250 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,799 that's just for the city of Victorville 1251 01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:08,240 or could be taken that it's just going 1252 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,520 to be for the city of Victorville, but 1253 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,799 it's my understanding that this is a 1254 01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:13,839 countywide facility. 1255 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:16,079 Mr. Mer, 1256 01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:18,630 >> uh that that's my understanding, but I I 1257 01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:18,640 » uh that that's my understanding, but I I 1258 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,880 think it might be best to invite a 1259 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,119 representative from the county to to 1260 01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:30,870 clarify that. 1261 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,039 Hello, my name is Jennifer Alcena. I'm 1262 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,240 the assistant director for the 1263 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,160 department of behavioral health. Um, 1264 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,280 what I can tell you is, uh, this this 1265 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,240 area has a high need for these services. 1266 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,240 So, bringing the services here to this 1267 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,160 community would meet the folks where 1268 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,039 they're at. So, right now, um, we don't 1269 01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:51,119 have the infrastructure to serve this 1270 01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:52,960 community, but there is a very large 1271 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,680 need here. which we share on the slide. 1272 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,950 >> So does that mean that there would be 1273 01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:56,960 » So does that mean that there would be 1274 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,829 priority given to Victorville residents? 1275 01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:04,079 » Um the way our system works is we do a 1276 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:05,839 first come first serve. So the folks are 1277 01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:08,400 already calling in for services. Uh so 1278 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,799 for this campus if you have someone that 1279 01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:12,799 lives here and they're calling in, this 1280 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:16,079 would be the um the the best place for 1281 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:16,480 them. 1282 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,069 >> So first come first serve though, just 1283 01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:18,079 » So first come first serve though, just 1284 01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:20,000 to clarify so I understand that could be 1285 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,359 anybody within the county of San 1286 01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:22,480 Bernardino. 1287 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:27,109 >> Yes. Okay. And what steps were taken 1288 01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:27,119 » Yes. Okay. And what steps were taken 1289 01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:30,559 prior to acquisition of the property to 1290 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:41,670 notify residents? 1291 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,039 » I think that would be a twofold 1292 01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:44,400 question. So I want to make sure that 1293 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,319 our assistant director Jennifer answers 1294 01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:47,920 the question on the community engagement 1295 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,079 piece but also answer the question in 1296 01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,000 regarding to engagement overall on the 1297 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,599 project. Is that is that the request? 1298 01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,520 Yes. Okay. So, go ahead and Jennifer, 1299 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,039 answer that question and then we'll ask 1300 01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:59,280 our uh project facilities management 1301 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,039 leadership team to come up as well and 1302 01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:01,839 answer that question. 1303 01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:05,349 >> Thank you. 1304 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:06,880 » For the purposes of the grant 1305 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,760 stakeholder engagement piece, we held uh 1306 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,520 20 uh different forums um and we had 1307 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,880 almost 500 people participate in those. 1308 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,440 So, that's the uh for for these uh 1309 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,000 facilities 1310 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,630 >> and that was prior to acquisition. 1311 01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:22,640 » and that was prior to acquisition. 1312 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,920 Yes, we are in the acquisition process. 1313 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,349 >> In the process of acquisition. 1314 01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:27,359 » In the process of acquisition. 1315 01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:27,750 >> Yes. 1316 01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:27,760 » Yes. 1317 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,549 >> Okay. So, 1318 01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:30,559 » Okay. So, 1319 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,440 phase two would have brought a different 1320 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,319 dynamic clearly. Um I know that there's 1321 01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:40,640 been a obviously a change in the plan. 1322 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,720 So, I have two questions in regard to 1323 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,680 that. The St. John of God, the level of 1324 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,680 service that was provided, there were no 1325 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,319 lockdown. There were no 5150 holds. That 1326 01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,280 was just residential care and it was 1327 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,880 volunteer. Correct. 1328 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:55,589 >> Correct. 1329 01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:55,599 » Correct. 1330 01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,309 >> So phase one, would that involve the 1331 01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:58,319 » So phase one, would that involve the 1332 01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:01,039 same care level? 1333 01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:03,190 >> Um, a couple of these are step down 1334 01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:03,200 » Um, a couple of these are step down 1335 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,240 levels of care. None of them are locked 1336 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,200 facilities. 1337 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,430 >> Okay. So, would we be increasing the 1338 01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:09,440 » Okay. So, would we be increasing the 1339 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,359 level of care from what St. John of God 1340 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:12,720 was offering? 1341 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,549 >> No, it would be the same level of care. 1342 01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:14,559 » No, it would be the same level of care. 1343 01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:16,880 Right now, we only serve adults. So this 1344 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,480 would be expanding that level of care 1345 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,200 but also to serve a youth. 1346 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,029 >> So it would be expanding the bed count. 1347 01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:23,039 » So it would be expanding the bed count. 1348 01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:23,520 Correct. 1349 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,549 >> Correct. 1350 01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:24,559 » Correct. 1351 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:27,430 >> Okay. What what guarantee or what 1352 01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:27,440 » Okay. What what guarantee or what 1353 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,880 assurance would we have that the county 1354 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,760 wouldn't later on decide we do want to 1355 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:41,510 do phase two? 1356 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,920 » Thank you council member Goden. So to 1357 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,280 answer your question regarding phase 1358 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,880 two, there's a purpose for me putting 1359 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,559 that on the record today to to state 1360 01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:50,559 publicly that we are we will be pulling 1361 01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:52,960 that application. That being said, we 1362 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,559 have not yet pulled the application. And 1363 01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,559 the reason being is we do have an 1364 01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:58,000 opportunity as many have mentioned with 1365 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,000 these resources from the state to have 1366 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,520 some conversations with the city 1367 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,599 regarding those those resources that are 1368 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,680 needed to see if maybe we can repurpose 1369 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,440 that application and maybe find another 1370 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,520 location where that those types of 1371 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,839 services can uh be committed for the 1372 01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:13,680 city because we do understand that it is 1373 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,599 still a need, maybe just not the best 1374 01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:18,079 location, but the county's commitment is 1375 01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:19,839 to pull that application for that 1376 01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:21,359 facility. 1377 01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:23,760 Okay. Uh, one last question for you. On 1378 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,319 the map that you provided in the um, 1379 01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:28,559 presentation, the existing campus was 1380 01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:32,960 not included in the exterior fencing. 1381 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,950 >> I'm sorry, say that again. On the map 1382 01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:34,960 » I'm sorry, say that again. On the map 1383 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,720 that you provided in your presentation, 1384 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,880 the existing campus that's there 1385 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,440 already, not including the expansion, it 1386 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,319 you show a new exterior fence being 1387 01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:47,119 constructed around the new construction, 1388 01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:49,599 but not the existing campus. So there 1389 01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,440 wouldn't be any protective or security 1390 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,000 fencing that would encompass the entire 1391 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,280 campus is my question. 1392 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,870 >> Yes, there would be fencing um 1393 01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:56,880 » Yes, there would be fencing um 1394 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,880 encompassing the entire campus. It will 1395 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,720 be a locked gated facility. 1396 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,470 >> Okay. So this map just isn't proper 1397 01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:02,480 » Okay. So this map just isn't proper 1398 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,400 representation of the actual security 1399 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,119 fencing. 1400 01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:06,950 >> Yeah, I believe it's temporary fencing. 1401 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:06,960 » Yeah, I believe it's temporary fencing. 1402 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,799 I I may need to call on our project 1403 01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:10,480 facilities management team to discuss 1404 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,240 that as far as the construction versus 1405 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,079 the final phase on the fencing. But I 1406 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:15,599 believe we have some temporary fencing 1407 01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:16,960 now and then we will have permanent 1408 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,440 fencing when the project is completed. 1409 01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,040 But I do also want to note that some of 1410 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,719 those conversations can be conversations 1411 01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:24,560 that can be had with the city as far as 1412 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,000 the preference and the school district 1413 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,159 as well with their input as far as the 1414 01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:29,600 preference as to what that looks like 1415 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,759 aesthetically. Um I'd like to ask our 1416 01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:33,120 leadership from project facilities 1417 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,239 management though to touch on that 1418 01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:35,359 further if that would be okay. 1419 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:39,332 >> Yes, please. Thank you very much. 1420 01:08:39,342 --> 01:08:40,000 [clears throat] 1421 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,309 >> Good evening, honorable 1422 01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:42,319 » Good evening, honorable 1423 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,239 representatives from Victorville. Uh my 1424 01:08:44,239 --> 01:08:46,480 name is Don Day. I'm represent our 1425 01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:48,319 design, construction, and facilities 1426 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,279 management. And um I can point to uh the 1427 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,199 site map that was shown earlier in the 1428 01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:55,600 presentation. Uh and I can confirm that 1429 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,759 the new facility that's being built does 1430 01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:00,719 have a 10-foot uh protective gate around 1431 01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:03,120 it. The existing campus uh is not 1432 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,679 intended to have the existing fencing 1433 01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:08,480 Ed. Um, however, it does have existing 1434 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:11,520 fencing around it right now. Um, but as 1435 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,920 we've discussed as a county, we're here 1436 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,000 to have discussions with the city and 1437 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,799 and you have discussion with the city 1438 01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:21,120 about our current design and if there 1439 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,600 are any feedback that the city has, we 1440 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,440 would surely love to sit down and have a 1441 01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,199 conversation with you about any other 1442 01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:30,159 elements that you might be interested in 1443 01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:31,199 seeing. 1444 01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:32,870 >> And what does that current fencing look 1445 01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:32,880 » And what does that current fencing look 1446 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,880 like around the existing campus? It's a 1447 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,799 chain link fencing around the current 1448 01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:39,679 campus right now and I guess I would 1449 01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:42,000 call it a rod iron decorative steel 1450 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,000 fencing is what's being proposed for the 1451 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,400 new facility. 1452 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,669 >> Okay. 1453 01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:53,679 And so just to clarify one last 1454 01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:56,239 question, the the phase one would 1455 01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,960 include a total bed count of 210. Is 1456 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,990 that correct? 1457 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:10,310 Yes, that is correct. 1458 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,159 » Yes. Okay, that is correct. [laughter] 1459 01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:13,920 Thank you very much. Thank you, Madam 1460 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,600 Mayor. That's all I have. 1461 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,750 >> Thank you, Council Member Irving. 1462 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:17,760 » Thank you, Council Member Irving. 1463 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,910 >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, first of 1464 01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:19,920 » Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, first of 1465 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,960 all, I want to say that I in no way want 1466 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,480 to create an adversarial environment uh 1467 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:28,480 between the city of Victorville, our 1468 01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:30,960 community at large, and the department 1469 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,360 of behavioral health. However, my 1470 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,640 concerns um my concerns center on 1471 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,320 accountability. 1472 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,640 Um, as I look on the on on the audience 1473 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,679 and I see a very what I presume to be a 1474 01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:47,440 very seasoned group of public 1475 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:49,679 administrators, can someone give me the 1476 01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,239 rationale as to why 1477 01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:54,400 the department of uh behavioral health 1478 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,000 did not engage with the city of 1479 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,040 Victorville and the school district uh 1480 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,760 in the fashion that we so deserved. 1481 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,159 That's my first question. Secondly, at 1482 01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,239 your public forum, I asked for some very 1483 01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:09,360 specific data because I knew or I 1484 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,880 believe that a night like this would 1485 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,640 come and I so much wanted to be in 1486 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,199 support. But as you know, without data, 1487 01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:18,400 data drives uh decisions. Without data, 1488 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,440 when I get phone calls from parents that 1489 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:24,159 are angry about the proposed proximity 1490 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:27,280 of your comprehensive facil treatment 1491 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,400 center to schools, what am I to say? you 1492 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,800 you left me in the dark and I want some 1493 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,480 answers about your accountability 1494 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:40,320 and Miss Rles Rundles you can you 1495 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,640 answer. 1496 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,880 Thank you very much. Um I would like to 1497 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,719 say first of all we agree with you in 1498 01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:49,120 the sense of the level of community 1499 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,640 engagement that is warranted for a 1500 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,560 project like this. I think we fell short 1501 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:53,760 and I'm going to speak to that and I 1502 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,800 spoke to that in our community 1503 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,800 engagement meeting. As far as following 1504 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,800 all legal requirements and notices, the 1505 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,800 county did do so. We did follow all all 1506 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,320 of our legal requirements and noticing 1507 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,679 and were happy to provide any 1508 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:05,679 information in regards to what that 1509 01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:07,840 looked like and and the history on that. 1510 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,080 Uh but I do I do want to acknowledge 1511 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,800 that I I believe that the community 1512 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,640 deserved more engagement on this 1513 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,080 project. Absolutely 100%. And uh we're 1514 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,960 here to say we want to make this right 1515 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,800 uh with the community with the city. We 1516 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,960 respect the city very much. This is a 1517 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,600 very important project and uh we have 1518 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,280 the best of intentions as far as the 1519 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,520 services for the community for the city 1520 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,600 but uh I think we could do a lot more 1521 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,760 and having engagement with the city 1522 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,520 engagement with the school district and 1523 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,159 having discussions around this project. 1524 01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:41,990 >> Thank you. I appreciate your comments. 1525 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:42,000 » Thank you. I appreciate your comments. 1526 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,880 For me, I guess as a policy maker, the 1527 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,480 question is does the public good 1528 01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:49,920 outweigh the proposed proximity the the 1529 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,000 um incumbrance that you will put on the 1530 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,000 community? I've been concerned about 1531 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,920 cost because you're going to deal with 1532 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,159 some of the most traumatized individuals 1533 01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,719 at this particular site. Correct. 1534 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:02,800 Probably within the county. And to me 1535 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,960 that just to me trauma it it equates to 1536 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,640 public safety. I've heard the word 1537 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,400 safety resonate throughout the the 1538 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,320 chamber tonight. And I couldn't agree 1539 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,280 more. But to say I'm sorry that we 1540 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,800 didn't do a good job. It still doesn't 1541 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,199 provide the rationale as to why not. For 1542 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,120 me, I'm wondering whether or not because 1543 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,600 you have pre preemptive authority, you 1544 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,199 don't have you did not have a legal 1545 01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,120 requirement to do so. Thereby, you 1546 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,040 didn't. I hope that you did not show 1547 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,719 blatant disregard for the city of 1548 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:32,719 Victorville and this leadership because 1549 01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:34,480 as I look over the comprehensive 1550 01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:37,040 timeline that was provided, 1551 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,440 it looks like about a year and a half 1552 01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:41,520 ago to two years ago, you decided you 1553 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,679 weren't going to engage with the city of 1554 01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:45,280 Victorville in the fashion that I think 1555 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,199 that you should have. Well, I I would 1556 01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:48,320 love to sit down and have some 1557 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,840 discussion regarding the chronology of 1558 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,920 noticing it, etc. But I do acknowledge 1559 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,080 once again, I want to say to you that I 1560 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,320 think we did not do uh the best of 1561 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,080 partnership on this project to say the 1562 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,560 least. Um I think we absolutely owe that 1563 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,560 to the city and the school district to 1564 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,159 have a better partnership on this 1565 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:07,920 project. Um no doubt. Um I do want to 1566 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,159 say that we haven't had safety concerns. 1567 01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:11,679 There's very very minimal safety 1568 01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:13,280 concerns that have existed on the 1569 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,000 current campus. um our law enforcement, 1570 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,360 you know, we work closely with them. 1571 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,760 We've had looked at statistics on the 1572 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,320 the uh any kind of safety calls for that 1573 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,920 campus and it's very been very 1574 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,159 dimminimous. Um they've shared with us, 1575 01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,320 the sheriff's office has shared with us 1576 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,000 um that they've gotten very few calls 1577 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,600 and and most calls that they've received 1578 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,280 are from other business entities, not 1579 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,199 not necessarily this campus. It's been 1580 01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:38,560 pretty um pretty quiet. I mean, given 1581 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,320 it's been there since 1985 and we're 1582 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:41,840 just some of us are just realizing it's 1583 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,760 it's there. Well, I appreciate your 1584 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,679 comments. I'm very disappointed. 1585 01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:47,270 >> Yes, I understand. 1586 01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:47,280 » Yes, I understand. 1587 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,270 >> Thank you. And I would I would have 1588 01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:49,280 » Thank you. And I would I would have 1589 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,600 thought that you would have done more to 1590 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,360 engage with the city and the school 1591 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,080 district about um a project of this 1592 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,920 nature. Thank you so much. 1593 01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,430 >> That we acknowledge that. Thank you very 1594 01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:59,440 » That we acknowledge that. Thank you very 1595 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:00,000 much. 1596 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,270 >> Thank you, 1597 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,440 » Mr. Mayor Prom. Before I continue, I'm 1598 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:07,360 going to read a statement from Council 1599 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,120 Member Mo for not being able to attend 1600 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,199 tonight. To my mayor and fellow city 1601 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:13,040 council members, I'm truly sorry I can't 1602 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,719 participate in person tonight. I had a 1603 01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:16,239 pre-arranged vacation that conflicts 1604 01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:18,400 with tonight's meeting. However, I want 1605 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,920 to share with you this statement to be 1606 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,600 read into the meeting record so that you 1607 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,120 and the community are aware of my views 1608 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,600 on this subject. I would like to support 1609 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,600 staff's recommendation for Sanita 1610 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,679 County's comprehensive treatment campus 1611 01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:31,679 project, which opposes the current 1612 01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:34,080 location and configuration. Although 1613 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,920 behavioral health and facilities that 1614 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,000 can support our community are important, 1615 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,520 I am happy to see that the county 1616 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,600 investing in this type of facilities in 1617 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,760 our community. I do not believe the 1618 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,600 location is the best interest of our 1619 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,760 students and our community. This 1620 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,520 location is right next door to schools 1621 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,760 and practice fields which I believe 1622 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,400 creates unnecessary risks. As a mother 1623 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,320 of students who practice at Laura Middle 1624 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,560 School, I see firsthand the concerns of 1625 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,400 the community. I believe it is our 1626 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,400 responsibility and duty to protect the 1627 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,640 citizens especially children in our 1628 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,080 cities. That was from council member Mo. 1629 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,229 Mayor Pam Haramman. 1630 01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:16,560 Okay. Um I I'll start with some of my 1631 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,840 questions have already been asked. 1632 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,159 Um 1633 01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:24,239 but I'm a blunt person so I'm just going 1634 01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:29,120 to get blunt. Why did you take the path 1635 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,480 that you did? Especially when you stand 1636 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:43,910 here and tell us that you've failed. 1637 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,440 » I do want to share with you um 1638 01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:49,280 the requirement. So, what I think may 1639 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,360 have led to some of this lack of 1640 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,199 communication or or really thorough 1641 01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:55,360 communication, if you will, um, and 1642 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,120 engaging and having conversations about 1643 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,840 this project has to do with timelines. 1644 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,320 Um, we have a state agreement that has 1645 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,560 an extremely rigorous timeline on this 1646 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,280 project. And I think with the pressure 1647 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,560 of the state's timeline to meet our 1648 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,640 construction deadlines and the costs 1649 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,120 that could be incurred with delays on 1650 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,520 this project, I think that that caused a 1651 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,000 level of pressure and stress on the 1652 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,800 staff to perform and to manage this 1653 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,320 project as efficiently and as 1654 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,719 effectively as possible, which I think 1655 01:17:26,719 --> 01:17:30,000 may have led to a bit of a oversight as 1656 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,640 to other critical parts of this 1657 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,199 conversation that needed to occur. 1658 01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:37,360 Um, I hope you know I know that this is 1659 01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:38,880 a frustrating process, but I think 1660 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,320 that's the best I can do in answering 1661 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,719 your question right now. 1662 01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:49,590 >> Um, why was it not an option to uh not 1663 01:17:49,590 --> 01:17:49,600 » Um, why was it not an option to uh not 1664 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,400 use the grant and reapply for it once 1665 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,199 you had a plan in place? We went through 1666 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:57,760 this in the city of Victorville. 1667 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,000 We had a was it I believe a home key 1668 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,400 grant for our wellness center and we 1669 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,320 were we were awarded that grant and our 1670 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,320 city staff went over and beyond and 1671 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,440 decided we could not do the project in 1672 01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:18,000 the the timeline that the the granter uh 1673 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:23,360 demanded and we gave we we waited and I 1674 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,159 just why was that avenue not visited? by 1675 01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:31,600 your staff or or I don't know if it all 1676 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,560 sits on your shoulders. Maybe it does. 1677 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,120 But who whoever is the decision maker? 1678 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,000 You guys are professionals. I I you know 1679 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,000 I I have the utmost respect for the 1680 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,440 county. I really do. Especially my my uh 1681 01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:48,480 county supervisor Cook and his staff. I 1682 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:50,800 don't really know you guys. That that's 1683 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,719 a political thing. I I get it. But I I I 1684 01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:57,360 I 1685 01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,560 can taste incompetency is the taste I'm 1686 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,080 getting. 1687 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:07,270 >> So um as far as any um ex expediting of 1688 01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:07,280 » So um as far as any um ex expediting of 1689 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,040 this project, 1690 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,480 it came once the grant was actually um 1691 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,480 provided to us. So we had already been 1692 01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:16,960 receiving in receipt of the grant um I 1693 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,040 believe in 2023. 1694 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,800 That's correct. Yes. So um you know the 1695 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,920 the need to expedite the the grant came 1696 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,760 from the timing in which we got we 1697 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,159 actually received the award and then 1698 01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:31,679 were a you know the timing that they we 1699 01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:33,120 were given from the state to actually 1700 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,840 execute and and complete the project. So 1701 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,520 at that point we had already been given 1702 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,920 the grant uh funding. So there wasn't 1703 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,600 really an opportunity for us to say 1704 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,520 we're not going to receive those funds. 1705 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,840 we were way past that point and I think 1706 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,679 at that point once the grant funds were 1707 01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:49,360 received that is the point in which I 1708 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,760 think some of this expediting processing 1709 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,520 that might have taken place that did not 1710 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:58,000 include enough comprehensive discussion 1711 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,480 would you agree with me then that you 1712 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:03,840 you were not prepared for the grant 1713 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,440 because 1714 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:08,800 what I'm talking about is being prepared 1715 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,960 for it you had to you had to apply for 1716 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,520 it 1717 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,270 >> yes 1718 01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:13,280 » yes 1719 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,880 I mean, I I just 1720 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,760 I don't understand why nobody about 1721 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,360 things until the grant was awarded. 1722 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,950 >> I really can't speak to that to be 1723 01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:24,960 » I really can't speak to that to be 1724 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,840 honest with you other than the fact that 1725 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,840 um there was, you know, we'd have to 1726 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,480 really discuss all the engagement that 1727 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,320 took place, the steps that took place in 1728 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,000 this process to really help understand 1729 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,080 the context of the situation and how 1730 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,719 those notifications took place. 1731 01:20:40,719 --> 01:20:42,880 I don't believe that the county did 1732 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,719 anything that was outside of the legal 1733 01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:47,440 parameters in in executing this this 1734 01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:48,960 application and moving forward and 1735 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,360 executing this project. I think what 1736 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,199 needed more time and and Jennifer 1737 01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:54,800 Alcena, our assistant director, alluded 1738 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,320 to the amount of community engagements 1739 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,480 that took place on the side of uh 1740 01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:00,000 behavioral health, but what I think 1741 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,480 needed more time and investment was our 1742 01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:03,840 relationship with the city and our 1743 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,440 relationship with the school district on 1744 01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:07,199 this project. 1745 01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:09,760 Um, Madame Mayor, C, could I get another 1746 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:15,350 minute? 1747 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,520 » If you were to uh 1748 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,719 look back and and and start from the 1749 01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:26,000 beginning, where where where and let's 1750 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,360 say you knew that the community and this 1751 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,840 wasn't going to work there. Where where 1752 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,600 where did you guys look at another 1753 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,239 location or did you just stay focused on 1754 01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:37,360 one? 1755 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,110 >> I will let Jennifer Alcena comment 1756 01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:39,120 » I will let Jennifer Alcena comment 1757 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,199 because I don't want to uh speak out of 1758 01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:42,560 turn, but I believe there were a number 1759 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,960 of sites uh reviewed. Jennifer, could 1760 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,590 you please 1761 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,760 » before I uh answer that question, I do 1762 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,520 want to say that previous rounds of the 1763 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,880 grants were targeted to uh specific 1764 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,000 populations or were uh quote unquote 1765 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,000 launch ready, meaning you had the shovel 1766 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,199 in the ground. Um so at the time of this 1767 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:06,800 is this is round five that we were 1768 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,520 awarded. For round three, that was a 1769 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,679 launch ready grant. We did not own the 1770 01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:15,440 property. A big um component of being 1771 01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:17,600 competitive for that round is you had 1772 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,000 secured property and we were still in 1773 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,159 the acquisition phase at that point. 1774 01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:22,560 Round 1775 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,350 >> what year? 1776 01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:23,360 » what year? 1777 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:24,470 >> Uh what was that? 1778 01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:24,480 » Uh what was that? 1779 01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:25,590 >> What year? 1780 01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:25,600 » What year? 1781 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,750 >> Um probably the previous year maybe 1782 01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:27,760 » Um probably the previous year maybe 1783 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,360 2022. 1784 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,520 Uh early early on I can go back and look 1785 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,679 at the dates but the next round round 1786 01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:36,960 four was for adolescent services. 1787 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,550 >> Okay. You're you're veering off. You're 1788 01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:38,560 » Okay. You're you're veering off. You're 1789 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,400 you're you're floating away. I I I want 1790 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:48,000 to know why you guys didn't have you say 1791 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,840 you had multiple locations and you came 1792 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,239 to the decision that this was the best 1793 01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,120 location because I I I find that 1794 01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,800 decision 1795 01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,840 incompetent. 1796 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:00,790 >> I see. 1797 01:23:00,790 --> 01:23:00,800 » I see. 1798 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,709 >> Um well, I didn't get to that to that 1799 01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:02,719 » Um well, I didn't get to that to that 1800 01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:04,080 point. Okay. So, I'm answering your 1801 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,920 previous question about um uh why didn't 1802 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,480 we apply for different uh rounds of 1803 01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,719 these grants. Uh so round three was a 1804 01:23:12,719 --> 01:23:14,320 launch ready grant and we did not own 1805 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,120 the property. Round four was uh targeted 1806 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,440 to youth services. So they had to be 1807 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:22,400 youth only facilities. We did consider 1808 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,239 applying for round four and we knew we 1809 01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:26,159 were not ready to apply for that grant 1810 01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:27,920 and we would wait for round five which 1811 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,320 is the grant that we applied for. Um so 1812 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,920 these timelines are very aggressive. 1813 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,920 It's a lot to do in a very short amount 1814 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,280 of time. Um we did hear uh some 1815 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,760 rumblings um around the state that the 1816 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,000 round six may or may not happen and it 1817 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,360 ultimately did not happen. Um and uh 1818 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,159 that was the terms of the of the grant. 1819 01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,000 Now to answer your other question when 1820 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,639 we were looking at the acquisition um 1821 01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:55,440 for this parcel it was previously owned 1822 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,400 by St. John of God and they own 10 other 1823 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,159 properties. We visited all of these 1824 01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:02,159 properties. It would have been more 1825 01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:04,159 costly to renovate these other 1826 01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:05,600 properties. I think our outpatient was 1827 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,840 over 100 years old, that building that 1828 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,600 we were operating in. Um, so buying this 1829 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,480 property had the uh potential to do new 1830 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:16,639 construction where the other properties 1831 01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:21,430 did not have that opportunity. 1832 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:23,440 » Okay. Thank you. 1833 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:25,030 >> I'm going to touch on something. Come 1834 01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:25,040 » I'm going to touch on something. Come 1835 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,159 back. I'm going to touch on something 1836 01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:28,000 you just said that these other 1837 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,560 properties didn't have the position to 1838 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,360 do it. You bought this property [snorts] 1839 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:37,360 for $2 million back in 2021. From that 1840 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,920 point forward, you guys are asking for 1841 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,239 grants. You guys are asking for money. 1842 01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:45,440 And we are emailing you asking, "What do 1843 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:48,239 you plan on doing?" And on one email, we 1844 01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:50,239 have, "Oh, nothing. Nothing. We're not 1845 01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:52,719 doing anything with the property." We 1846 01:24:52,719 --> 01:24:56,159 send another email. We hear crickets. 1847 01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:58,560 When somebody hides something from you, 1848 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,360 it's no good. And this is what this is. 1849 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,320 This is a shellgate. This is hidden. 1850 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,199 This is what this reads to me. You guys 1851 01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,639 are picking on our city. And I'm going 1852 01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:12,239 to call it picking on because you say 1853 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:13,679 that drugs are the highest second 1854 01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:16,400 offense for suspensions annually in 2023 1855 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,239 2024 Victor Valley Union High School 1856 01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:21,840 District. 251 drugrelated suspensions. 1857 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,840 Sir, how many students do we have in 1858 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,600 Victor Valley Senior School District? 1859 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,120 10,000. And 251 kids may have gotten 1860 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,560 caught with a Tylenol, a vape. When you 1861 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,639 say drugrelated, it could be anything 1862 01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:38,000 from a Tylenol to a an asthma spray. 1863 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,480 Correct. If a child has an asthma spray 1864 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:43,199 and it is not a doctor written behind 1865 01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:46,800 it, that child is suspended for for use 1866 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,360 of his asthma spray for a drugrelated 1867 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,920 offense. Correct. Okay. So when you're 1868 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,320 picking on our schools, it drugreated 1869 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,320 suspension. 270 calls for service for 1870 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,040 our related to public public 1871 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,800 intoxication 1872 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,480 for the desert. We have 500,000 people 1873 01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,960 that live in the desert. And not all of 1874 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,880 them are addicted to alcohol and drugs. 1875 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,480 Some of them are just stupid and go out 1876 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,040 partying and then they drive home drunk. 1877 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,360 We have a higher fatal injury crashes 1878 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,239 from 2022. Why? Because everybody moved 1879 01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:21,600 from down the hill and think because 1880 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,440 we're country bumpkin and it's the 1881 01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,120 desert, you can drive 80 miles an hour 1882 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,920 down Armagosa and Bear Valley. We have 1883 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,880 the most high desert. We have overdose 1884 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,280 incidents as the second highest. We have 1885 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,000 the second largest homeless population. 1886 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,760 Will the homeless people be able to be 1887 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,159 dropped off and say no insurance, no 1888 01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,080 benefits, no nothing? You treat them for 1889 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,000 free like Victor Valley Hospital, St. 1890 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,000 Mary's, and Desert Valley Hospital has 1891 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,920 to do. No. No. Yes, we do. Okay. But 1892 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:50,880 where are you going to send them 1893 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,120 afterwards? Back on the street because 1894 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,360 they're homeless to begin with. You 1895 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,800 mentioned, oh, we're going to be 1896 01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,400 partners and send them to our wellness 1897 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,800 center. Uh-uh. That's our wellness 1898 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,800 So, your people that are homeless and 1899 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,639 you guys are bringing in and treating 1900 01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:08,400 now they're fine. Now, you want them at 1901 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,360 our homeless center. Then you say that 1902 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,080 you didn't know. We emailed you guys on 1903 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,800 many, many occasions and we got nothing. 1904 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,120 We got no we're not doing anything. And 1905 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,000 yet days later we can prove by public 1906 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,440 record you guys applied for grants and 1907 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:26,239 still nothing. 1908 01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:27,189 >> Your time is up. 1909 01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:27,199 » Your time is up. 1910 01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:28,709 >> I'm going to take one minute. You make 1911 01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:28,719 » I'm going to take one minute. You make 1912 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:32,080 the mention of 20 additional for you 20 1913 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,880 forums. You consider forums a meeting. 1914 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,440 So you had 20 meetings. 1915 01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:38,310 >> Yes. 1916 01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:38,320 » Yes. 1917 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,149 >> In Victorville. 1918 01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:40,159 » In Victorville. 1919 01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:40,709 >> Um 1920 01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:40,719 » Um 1921 01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:42,870 >> I may be blind but I I think I would 1922 01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:42,880 » I may be blind but I I think I would 1923 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,120 have heard of one. 1924 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,639 My granddaughter wanted me to ask you 1925 01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:48,880 this question. Why isn't this boot in 1926 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,880 Ranch Cookamonga? Maybe because their 1927 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,239 homes cost two and three million 1928 01:27:52,239 --> 01:27:54,320 dollars. Why not Fontana? Why not 1929 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,960 Rialto? Why not somewhere down the hill? 1930 01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,199 Because they would have said no. And 1931 01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:01,280 their tax dollars are higher than ours 1932 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,239 for Sanino County. 1933 01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:08,000 So why pick on us? That's all I have. 1934 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:13,270 Thank you. 1935 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,000 At this time, I'll invite a motion to 1936 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:20,550 adopt staff's recommendation. 1937 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,880 » Motion to adopt. Go ahead. Go ahead. 1938 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:23,520 Mayor Pro. 1939 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:28,550 >> Uh motion to approve uh item one. Uh as 1940 01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:28,560 » Uh motion to approve uh item one. Uh as 1941 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,070 to 1942 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:36,470 26005. 1943 01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:38,560 Is that good, Jen? 1944 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,070 >> Would that be to approve staff's 1945 01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:40,080 » Would that be to approve staff's 1946 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,520 recommendation as presented on the 1947 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,199 agenda to adopt resolution number 1948 01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:44,880 26-005? 1949 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,270 >> Yes. My apologies. I I I'm not the 1950 01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:47,280 » Yes. My apologies. I I I'm not the 1951 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:47,840 correct. 1952 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:48,550 >> Thank you. 1953 01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:48,560 » Thank you. 1954 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:49,990 >> Second. 1955 01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:50,000 » Second. 1956 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,229 >> I have a first by council me by Mayor 1957 01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:52,239 » I have a first by council me by Mayor 1958 01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:53,840 Pam Herman and a second by council 1959 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,320 member Irving. Council me Mayor Pam 1960 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,400 Haramman. Comments on the pending 1961 01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,920 motion. 1962 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:04,390 >> Um yeah. Um so I I just I I'm going to 1963 01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:04,400 » Um yeah. Um so I I just I I'm going to 1964 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:09,120 speak to the audience. Um, so, uh, I I 1965 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,920 got I got voted in by my constituents 1966 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:16,159 and I I have, uh, since attending the 1967 01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:17,679 forum, 1968 01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:20,239 it's been a couple weeks ago now. Um, I 1969 01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:23,199 have talked to many people and I'm here 1970 01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:26,639 to represent the people and 1971 01:29:26,639 --> 01:29:28,239 overwhelmingly 1972 01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:30,080 99 1973 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,080 say.5% 1974 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,920 were against this. Uh the people that 1975 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,120 had kids attending the Victor Valley 1976 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,199 Union High School District were 100% 1977 01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:43,520 against it. And I represent the people 1978 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,520 of Victorville. 1979 01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,719 So I have all the compassion in the 1980 01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:50,719 world. I I could do the same thing 1981 01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:54,400 everyone else did and say I my brother 1982 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,159 year younger than me went through it 1983 01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:58,800 all. Also took him 15 years to get 1984 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,040 clean. He ended up with the Salvation 1985 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,840 Army actually in Santa Monica to clean 1986 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,600 himself up. But so the compassion is 1987 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:13,360 here. But this look I agree it needs to 1988 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,600 be in Victorville because we are the hub 1989 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,199 of the high desert and there's a half a 1990 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:19,760 million people up here. But we're 74 1991 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,960 square miles and there's even county 1992 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,560 property that areas in Victorville that 1993 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,120 we haven't annexed. So there's that, you 1994 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,600 know, 1995 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,320 there's plenty of area that I just feel 1996 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,280 like the staff, the county staff, uh, 1997 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,639 just just failed. And, um, like I said, 1998 01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:44,400 I I'm comparing that with with my staff. 1999 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:45,920 It 2000 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,560 we are we have got it together. We have 2001 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,880 some of the greatest people running this 2002 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,120 city. And when they couldn't do 2003 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,600 something with that grant, they declined 2004 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,400 it and went back to get it when we were 2005 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,080 prepared. You got to be prepared. If you 2006 01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,719 want grants, you got to be prepared. I 2007 01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:08,080 will also say I think the state screwed 2008 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,800 up also because they should have had 2009 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,120 some oversight. They they should have 2010 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,080 maybe asked more questions to the county 2011 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,960 on your preparedness to spend the money. 2012 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,040 So I I you know I know it's a very 2013 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,440 complex thing but like I said my 2014 01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:25,280 constituents are against this against 2015 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,440 this. I represent the people of 2016 01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:30,159 Victorville and so that's that's that's 2017 01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:33,199 where I'm at. 2018 01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:34,709 >> Council member Irving. 2019 01:31:34,709 --> 01:31:34,719 » Council member Irving. 2020 01:31:34,719 --> 01:31:36,790 >> Thank you Madame Mayor. I echo the 2021 01:31:36,790 --> 01:31:36,800 » Thank you Madame Mayor. I echo the 2022 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,760 sentiments of my colleague Mayor Pro Tim 2023 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,159 Haramman. I too represent the community, 2024 01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,480 the citizens of Victorville, and most 2025 01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:46,960 that I've spoken to are against this 2026 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,239 project because of the proximity. I also 2027 01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:52,880 heard the the words or the sentiments of 2028 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,800 the educational community. I'm a 2029 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,960 teacher, so I understand the hard work 2030 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,880 that we put forth in trying to protect 2031 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,000 our children. They're young. 2032 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:03,679 This could be a distraction, and we're 2033 01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:05,520 trying to keep them on on the path to 2034 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,320 success. But I also understand that 2035 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,239 there's a need for this this kind of 2036 01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:12,400 facility in the district. So I'm hopeful 2037 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,800 that there is a pathway moving forward. 2038 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,719 I would uh encourage the public 2039 01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:19,120 administrators in the audience from the 2040 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,280 department of behavioral health to 2041 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,120 engage and collaborate with the 2042 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,520 stakeholders of this community. I do 2043 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,760 think that there is an outcome that will 2044 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,400 be favorable for all. And so I encourage 2045 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,120 you to continue to to reach out to the 2046 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,280 city and to the school district so that 2047 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,679 we can help find a different location 2048 01:32:37,679 --> 01:32:40,480 because I think we all agree we all 2049 01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:42,800 agree that these services are needed. So 2050 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,470 thank you very much. 2051 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:48,800 » Councilwoman God. Thank you Madame 2052 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:53,040 Mayor. I too am uh also in support of 2053 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,080 these services within our city. uh it's 2054 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,760 something that's highly needed and we 2055 01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,760 certainly don't want to underscore part 2056 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,679 of our population um because of another. 2057 01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:05,199 At the same time, I think it's really 2058 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:06,639 important that the county doesn't use 2059 01:33:06,639 --> 01:33:08,080 the city and the residents as a 2060 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,600 scapegoat. 2061 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,080 We all are in agreement. I believe that 2062 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,040 this is a needed a needed facility, a 2063 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,480 needed treatment. But I also am a mom 2064 01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,280 and I also am hearing the residents and 2065 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:22,880 the concern of the teachers and the 2066 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,360 educators. We have to protect our 2067 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,600 children. We have to protect their 2068 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,679 minds. And we have to protect them 2069 01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:32,480 physically. And I agree that we need 2070 01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:34,400 these services, but I also am in 2071 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:35,920 disagreement with where these services 2072 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,000 would be provided in the proximity of 2073 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,000 our schools and campuses and our 2074 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,639 children. I also realize that the county 2075 01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:45,280 has preemptive authority. They can go 2076 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:46,960 ahead with this project whether we like 2077 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,440 it or not. But I do think it's important 2078 01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:52,239 that we state our case and we take our 2079 01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:55,280 position. We uh you know want to hear 2080 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,040 what the county has to say and I agree 2081 01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,000 with uh what the mayor stated that had 2082 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,320 communication been offered we would have 2083 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,880 gladly accepted we would have loved to 2084 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,400 partner with the county to come to the 2085 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,199 right answer because there is a right 2086 01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:13,520 answer and I believe that we can come 2087 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,920 together and my hopes is is that by 2088 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,639 taking this stance that the county will 2089 01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:20,880 listen that we will be able to go back 2090 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,800 to the drawing board and that we will be 2091 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,679 be able to make a decision that benefits 2092 01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:28,800 all. So, with that being said, I hope 2093 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,040 that um I hope that our comments tonight 2094 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,679 will be heard. Thank you, Madam Mayor. 2095 01:34:33,679 --> 01:34:36,229 >> Thank you. My com my comments go along 2096 01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:36,239 » Thank you. My com my comments go along 2097 01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:38,960 with Councilman God. They can move 2098 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,520 forward on this, folks. Silverado, let's 2099 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,199 see what 4,000 letters to our first 2100 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:45,760 district supervisor look like. Laores, 2101 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,600 same thing. Sims, same thing. Let's 2102 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,760 start writing letters, folks, because if 2103 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,880 they continue this and the first child 2104 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,480 that gets hurt, because it can't happen, 2105 01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:59,360 I will be standing there. So, please get 2106 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,440 your schools, get your get the residents 2107 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:04,159 in the area. Let's start writing letters 2108 01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:06,080 and it's just to say, "Hi, please stop 2109 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,679 the project." That's it. Put it in an 2110 01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:10,000 envelope, put it in the mail because 2111 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,960 they can move forward with this. Thank 2112 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,040 you, Madam Clerk. Will you take the 2113 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:15,760 vote, please? 2114 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,830 >> Council member Goian. Yes. Council 2115 01:35:17,830 --> 01:35:17,840 » Council member Goian. Yes. Council 2116 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:18,639 member Irving. 2117 01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:19,669 >> Yes. 2118 01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:19,679 » Yes. 2119 01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:21,110 >> Mayor Prom Haramman. 2120 01:35:21,110 --> 01:35:21,120 » Mayor Prom Haramman. 2121 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:21,510 >> Yes. 2122 01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:21,520 » Yes. 2123 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,550 >> Mayor Bisera. 2124 01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:22,560 » Mayor Bisera. 2125 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:22,950 >> Yes. 2126 01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:22,960 » Yes. 2127 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,030 >> Motion passes with Council Member Mora 2128 01:35:25,030 --> 01:35:25,040 » Motion passes with Council Member Mora 2129 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,400 being absent. 2130 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,629 >> We've now taken action to approve 2131 01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:28,639 » We've now taken action to approve 2132 01:35:28,639 --> 01:35:31,360 resolution 260005 2133 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,080 as stated in the agenda. 2134 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,679 And at 7:20, this meeting is adjourned.