[0:00] The meeting to order.
[0:02] >> good morning, colleagues, staff,
[0:03] members of the public, it is 9:02 a.m.
[0:07] on august 25, 2026.
[0:08] we are calling this regular meeting of
[0:10] the san mateo county board of
[0:12] supervisors to order.
[0:13] we'll start with having the clerk of
[0:15] the board provide information on how
[0:17] the public can parts pay in this
[0:19] meeting.
[0:20] >> members of public, the
[0:22] instructions to participate in today's
[0:24] meeting can be found on the published
[0:26] agenda.
[0:27] these instructions provide information
[0:28] on how to submit written comments and
[0:29] is how to participate via zoom.
[0:32] live interpretation of this entire
[0:33] meeting already provided in spanish.
[0:36] to access live interpretation
[0:38] services, click the interpretation
[0:40] globe icon, select the spanish
[0:44] language.
[0:45] select the three dot menu, select
[0:47] interpretation, select spanish and
[0:48] click done.
[0:49] I'll ask victor hernandez to provide
[0:52] these instructions in spanish.
[0:53] >> thank you very much, kim.
[0:55] good morning, president corzo,
[0:57] honorable supervisors, mr. Callagy,
[1:02] mr. Mates, mr. Nibbelin, victor
[1:07] hernandez, spanish interpreter.
[1:10] ( interpreting in spanish ).
[1:50] >> thank you very much.
[1:56] >> thank you, kim and victor.
[1:59] with that, we will move on.
[2:04] sorry, let me find my agenda here.
[2:09] too many tabs open, here we go, thank
[2:11] you for those instructions.
[2:13] we'll now move on to the pledge of
[2:15] allegiance.
[2:16] please join me in the pledge.
[2:18] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of
[2:19] the united states of america and to
[2:20] the republic for which it stands one
[2:21] nation under god, indivisible, with
[2:22] liberty and justice for all.
[2:36] >> we'll now take it over to kim for
[2:38] a roll call, please.
[2:39] >> supervisor speier?
[2:40] >> here.
[2:42] >> supervisor mueller?
[2:43] >> here.
[2:44] >> supervisor gauthier?
[2:45] >> here.
[2:46] >> supervisor canepa?
[2:47] >> here.
[2:48] >> president corzo?
[2:49] >> here.
[2:50] >> all present.
[2:51] >> we'll move on to honoring the life
[2:52] of and board member remarks.
[2:55] do any of my colleagues have comments
[2:59] or any honoring the life of remarks?
[3:01] >> through the chair, I have two honoring
[3:03] the life of, so this morning
[3:05] we would like to honor the life and
[3:08] memory of eugenia vallencourt,
[3:12] beloved mother of donna vallencourt
[3:15] whose life was marked with
[3:19] services and love.
[3:21] she passed away peacefully on sunday
[3:25] august 16 surrounding by her loving
[3:30] family.
[3:31] board in santa rosa in 1925, she
[3:32] celebrated 100 year birthday just 8
[3:34] months ago, a milestone that reflects
[3:36] not only the length of her life but
[3:38] the fullness.
[3:40] eugenia also was an employee of the
[3:43] county, she began her county service
[3:45] in the dp of general services and
[3:48] later joined the san mateo county
[3:50] sheriff's office where she served as
[3:52] lead payroll personnel specialist
[3:54] until her retirement in 1995.
[3:57] by every account, she was the beloved
[4:00] by deputies, by staff and by many
[4:03] people whose paths crossed hers.
[4:06] again, I know that her daughters, two
[4:09] daughters followed her into the county
[4:11] work, donna and val also worked --
[4:15] built their careers of service here in
[4:18] san mateo county here as well, so we
[4:19] want to lift up the memory of eugenia
[4:22] and her family.
[4:25] also I wanted to honor the life of
[4:29] frank abramo, today we honor
[4:34] remarkable life of frank who was a
[4:35] world war ii navy veteran and in the
[4:40] veteran's community who passed away on
[4:44] august 12 surrounded by his family.
[4:48] his 102 years were marked by service,
[4:50] dedication, resilience and deep love
[4:51] of family.
[4:53] frank served the united states navy
[4:56] during world war ii spending three
[4:58] years in the pacific theatre.
[5:01] more of his work, he worked for the
[5:05] stanford linear accelerator
[5:11] center here and he believed for the
[5:14] adopt department of defense, he found
[5:17] joy in community and activity, he was
[5:19] a longtime member of the san
[5:21] mateo elks lodge and an avid golfer
[5:27] who continued playing until his 90's
[5:29] showing his determination and
[5:30] enjoyment of life.
[5:31] may frank abramo be remembered with
[5:33] appreciation for his service,
[5:35] admiration, for his long life and deep
[5:37] love for his family and friends.
[5:38] thank you.
[5:41] >> thank you.
[5:44] seeing no others, I would like to
[5:48] adjust a small comment to supervisor
[5:53] gauthier's honoring the life of
[5:54] comments for frank and just add that
[5:57] frank was a city of san mateo resident
[5:59] and in addition to his military
[6:03] service, he also dedicated his career
[6:06] to scientific and technological
[6:08] advancement through his work with the
[6:10] department of defense and stanford
[6:16] linear accelerator center, we honor
[6:21] his contributions to science and
[6:22] innovation, we are immensely grateful
[6:25] for the lasting legacy he leaves
[6:27] behind.
[6:28] I'll now read our county's land
[6:30] acknowledgment.
[6:31] this is not our county's land
[6:33] acknowledgment, I'll now read a
[6:37] different land acknowledgment, we
[6:38] honor and affirm the rights of the
[6:41] coleman and other indigenous peoples
[6:42] who call the unscreened territories of
[6:44] the san francisco bay a area their
[6:47] traditional homeland, we honor the
[6:49] ancestors, elders and rel tiers of
[6:51] indigenous people and their enduring
[6:54] contributions to san mateo county and
[6:56] commit to continued healing, inclusion
[6:58] and partnership.
[6:59] we honor people of the african
[7:01] diaspora recognizing the profound
[7:03] impact of enslavement and systemic
[7:06] injustice as well as our
[7:08] enduring contributions, resilience and
[7:09] leadership in shaping our communities.
[7:12] we honor immigrants, past and present
[7:14] whose cultures, experiences and
[7:16] contributions have enriched our
[7:20] communities and continue to strengthen
[7:21] our shared society.
[7:23] with that, we will now move on to
[7:25] public comment.
[7:26] this is the portion of the agenda that
[7:28] is set aside for members of the public
[7:30] to comment on matters that are within
[7:32] the subject matter jurisdiction of the
[7:34] board of supervisors but that are not
[7:35] on the agenda for today's meeting
[7:38] for matters that are listed on the
[7:40] consent agenda and for matters that
[7:43] are set for closed session.
[7:44] we'll be keeping public comment to
[7:46] would the minutes.
[7:47] if a speaker goes over time, I will
[7:48] give them a single warning and then
[7:52] I'll ask the clerk to cut the mic.
[7:53] this is to ensure equity of voice for
[7:56] all of our public commenters.
[7:58] thank you, with that, we will begin
[8:00] public comment.
[8:04] >> we have peeved written comments
[8:06] which were submitted and provided to
[8:08] the president and board members as
[8:09] well as on the public board site.
[8:13] for those wanting to speak on items
[8:17] 1-20, please wait until the item is called.
[8:19] we will start with leopold and then
[8:27] dan.
[8:30] >> good morning, I have a family of
[8:34] five kids and I have small land here
[8:37] in the county of san mateo and I
[8:39] wanted some help from you guys to
[8:41] update some of the regulations for
[8:45] septic that I want to put on my land.
[8:47] I don't know all the details but my
[8:50] architect, dan, knows everything and
[8:52] can explain to you what I need.
[9:02] >> dan?
[9:03] >> hi, good morning, first I would
[9:08] like to thank supervisor ray for
[9:14] talking with me, it was very helpful.
[9:16] my name is dan, a licensed architect
[9:21] and I landed here from europe and I
[9:25] opened my company in san mateo.
[9:28] I've designed projects in bay area,
[9:31] california, united states and overseas.
[9:33] over the last 44 years, I have
[9:40] cooperated with many planning,
[9:42] building and elected officials and
[9:43] helped create, update and corrected
[9:47] various regulations.
[9:49] I have become the private
[9:52] practitioner on the other side of the
[9:53] fence that I see how regulations apply
[9:57] to people working -- designing things
[9:59] based on their existing regulations.
[10:00] and I want to bring to your attention
[10:07] that I have identified a regulation
[10:09] that does not make sense today.
[10:11] we need more housing and we have -- we
[10:15] are blocking housing in san mateo
[10:17] county for no reasonable reasons.
[10:20] I discovered the problem by
[10:23] chance, currently working in san mateo
[10:26] county, santa cruz county and santa
[10:31] clara county, I realized that modern
[10:35] septic systems have been specifically
[10:39] and especially designed for smaller
[10:42] lots and for specific problems at
[10:45] various lots.
[10:46] and such systems do make sense, they
[10:54] are functioning, they are clean and
[10:55] they are reliable.
[10:57] there are hundreds of them in san
[10:59] mateo county and -- sorry, in santa
[11:02] clara county and santa cruz county and
[11:04] in other bay area counties.
[11:07] >> I'm sorry, sir, that's your time.
[11:09] >> that's fine, I have some envelopes
[11:10] that I can give to the supervisors.
[11:13] >> please give them to the clerk and
[11:15] you can always follow up with us via
[11:17] e-mail.
[11:18] >> this is a problem we need to solve.
[11:21] >> madam president, maybe I'll give
[11:22] the speaker my card and we can speak
[11:24] about his regulatory concerns.
[11:27] >> okay, thank you.
[11:28] >> thank you.
[11:29] >> next we have henry gardner and then
[11:36] lahara.
[11:38] >> good morning, all, my name is --
[11:42] >> can you please adjust the mic. So
[11:44] people on zoom can hear you.
[11:46] >> my name is lah ark -- lahara.
[11:59] [inaudible]
[12:00] >> my name is joanne kim, a rising
[12:04] senior at kama high school.
[12:06] >> my name is veronica and I'm also a
[12:11] rising senior at carl mont high school.
[12:13] >> my name is zara, a senior at carmel
[12:17] high school and a senior for skop the
[12:20] scandals.
[12:21] >> henry gardner, a recent graduate of
[12:25] burlingame high school, a summer
[12:26] intern with stop the scandals.
[12:28] I want to start by focusing on a
[12:32] number, 13.4 million.
[12:33] it's the amount our county is paid out
[12:35] in lawsuits related to alleged sheriff
[12:38] misconduct in just the last five
[12:40] years along with another 48 million in
[12:43] pending claims.
[12:44] this comes at a time when the county
[12:45] has been a publicized struggle over
[12:49] vehicle licensing fees, money which is
[12:53] reinvested back into our community.
[12:55] this money impacts our education, our
[12:56] opportunity and our lives.
[12:57] we demand responsible stewardship from
[12:59] our county.
[13:02] we ask them to showcase this
[13:05] stewardship by appointing an ongoing
[13:07] inspector general overseeing the
[13:08] sheriff's office.
[13:11] >> hello, I'm anishka, I'm a student
[13:16] at carl mont high school, the board of
[13:20] supervisors own independent civilian
[13:24] advisory committee recommended that
[13:25] last summer the board appoint an
[13:27] inspector general, they would build a
[13:30] relationship between the sheriff's
[13:32] office and the community, they would
[13:34] provide a safety valve with disasters
[13:36] happening with the last sheriff, it is
[13:39] a crucial step towards an improved
[13:41] relationship between the sheriff's
[13:42] office and the community especially
[13:44] after the recent scandals, the
[13:46] inspector general is a path forward.
[13:49] >> I'm going to need you to wrap up in
[13:51] ten seconds.
[13:52] >> so, we are here to present a
[13:55] position where we have garnered over
[13:59] 550 signatures from members of the
[14:00] community as well as over 20
[14:04] organizations including the naacp, so
[14:11] we will be presenting those to the
[14:13] board of supervisors today.
[14:14] thank you for your time.
[14:15] >> thank you.
[14:16] >> and lastly from chambers, we
[14:19] have jim lawrence.
[14:21] >> good morning.
[14:24] president corzo and members of the
[14:26] board, I want to remind you to reflect
[14:29] on not only what these young people
[14:31] have said today but who is saying it.
[14:34] they are students, they spent hair
[14:36] summer doing things that normally
[14:37] students don't do, instead they get
[14:40] involved with their community.
[14:41] the research, the issues, they
[14:44] attended meetings, they talked to
[14:46] residents and gathered signatures,
[14:47] they built the community support and
[14:50] today they came before you, our
[14:52] elected leaders, with that message.
[14:55] now, I spent many years in public
[14:57] service like all of you.
[14:58] I can tell you what I experienced
[15:00] today is exactly what we want from our
[15:03] young people, they became informed,
[15:06] they chose to participate, to speak up
[15:09] and believe in -- and I believe their
[15:11] voices matter.
[15:12] and to our interns, thank you, you
[15:17] showed courage, you showed leadership
[15:19] and regardless of what happens today,
[15:22] you demonstrated something very
[15:24] important, democracy works best when
[15:26] people show up.
[15:27] thank you.
[15:31] >> alright, now we're going fo go to
[15:33] zoom for comments.
[15:34] please raise your hand at this time.
[15:38] alright, we're going to start with
[15:42] natallia and then I'll
[15:47] make a final call.
[15:48] please begin.
[15:53] natalia?
[15:56] is your hand raised online?
[15:57] last call.
[16:07] alright, that concludes public comment.
[16:15] >> okay.
[16:16] thank you.
[16:17] with that, we will now -- I keep
[16:25] misplacing my agenda here.
[16:26] okay, with that, I want to thank
[16:28] everyone who shared a public comment.
[16:30] we will now move on to take action to
[16:33] set the agenda and approve the consent
[16:38] agenda.
[16:39] now bear with me, this one's
[16:40] complicated, so, I would like to
[16:42] suggest we move items 9 and 17
[16:49] together, so consider item 17 during
[16:52] the discussion for item number 9 as
[16:56] both items involve horizon.
[17:00] item 17 is a resolution authorizing a
[17:03] ground lease for real property located
[17:07] at 826 mahler road in burlingame.
[17:10] I believe supervisor speier would like
[17:12] item number 29 to be moved from
[17:14] consent to regular agenda and I
[17:17] propose we move that to the end of the
[17:19] regular agenda.
[17:24] and I know health has requested that we
[17:26] pull item -- pull and defer item 32 to
[17:30] a later meeting.
[17:33] can I get a motion to approve this
[17:40] agenda?
[17:41] to set this agenda and approve the
[17:47] consent agenda.
[17:48] >> I have one other item that I don't
[17:53] want to move but draw attention to,
[17:54] that's item 24 which is an agreement
[17:58] with a company that has had the
[18:02] contract since 2006.
[18:04] it's become an evergreen contract and
[18:08] I think as we look to the ways in
[18:12] which we'll be tightening our belts,
[18:14] we need to look at these contracts
[18:17] which historically are just renewed
[18:19] decade after decade, so I wanted to
[18:21] draw attention to that, with that, I
[18:24] will move the changes you've requested.
[18:27] >> thank you.
[18:29] roll call vote, please.
[18:30] >> supervisor speier?
[18:31] >> aye.
[18:33] >> supervisor mueller?
[18:34] >> yes.
[18:35] >> supervisor gauthier?
[18:36] >> yes.
[18:37] >> supervisor canepa?
[18:38] >> aye.
[18:39] >> president corzo?
[18:40] >> yes.
[18:41] >> motion passes.
[18:42] >> okay, thank you.
[18:44] with that, we will now move on to item
[18:52] number 1, and I will hand it over to
[18:57] supervisor speier and county executive
[19:01] callagy to present a resolution to
[19:05] kitty lopez.
[19:06] >> thank you, madam president, it's a great
[19:10] honor today to celebrate one of the
[19:12] great advocates in san mateo county.
[19:14] a great advocate for the vulnerable, a
[19:19] life truly dedicated to raising up
[19:22] those in need.
[19:23] I have had the pleasure of working
[19:26] with kitty lopez both at samaritan
[19:29] house and also on the board of first 5.
[19:33] I think that she has truly been
[19:37] remarkable in how she has led her
[19:41] career on behalf of county residents.
[19:44] kitty, you have a moral compass that
[19:48] has never wavered.
[19:49] you are a true humanitarian and
[19:56] paraphrasing vice-president humphrey,
[20:01] you have cared for those at the dawn
[20:03] of their lives and those living in
[20:05] the shadows of their lives, the sick,
[20:07] the needy and the handicapped and we
[20:10] will forever be indebted to you for
[20:12] the service you've provided in our
[20:16] county.
[20:21] >> madam president, can I add a few
[20:22] words?
[20:23] >> of course.
[20:24] >> I've known kitty for over 25 years
[20:28] now and certainly got to know her
[20:32] wonderful husband, jeff, also,
[20:33] who was a professor of mine up at
[20:45] notre dame, kitty's life has been
[20:47] about service, she was an incredible
[20:51] director at samaritan house, reaching
[20:54] beyond what john kelly and others
[21:00] before her accomplished and she really
[21:01] se a path for herself in in serving
[21:06] members of this county for years to
[21:08] come.
[21:09] when she came to the first 5, it was
[21:12] the good fortune of the county to
[21:14] get somebody of this quality, somebody
[21:16] who's difficult to say no to at
[21:18] times but has the best interest of the
[21:20] community at heart whose carrying on
[21:23] this job with very serious work but
[21:25] did it with a sense of humor and as a
[21:28] great leader bringing others along and
[21:32] lifting up others under her guidance.
[21:36] it has been nothing short of a
[21:38] pleasure working with kitty all these
[21:42] years and as you head into noted
[21:48] retirement but what are you calling it?
[21:51] >> preferment.
[21:53] >> there you go.
[21:54] that's a sense of humor I'm talking
[21:58] about.
[21:59] I would ask you to reflect on all
[22:01] the lives you impacted and all the
[22:04] people you served in this county
[22:05] throughout these years.
[22:06] that is an incredible legacy that will
[22:08] be established for years and years to
[22:10] come, so thank you so much for all you
[22:12] have done for this county.
[22:16] >> thank you.
[22:17] >> thank you.
[22:19] >> sorry, just one second.
[22:20] you will have the last word, kitty, I
[22:23] promise.
[22:24] I just wanted to share a few words as
[22:26] well.
[22:27] I got to serve on the first 5
[22:29] commission with you, kitty, for about
[22:32] three -- no, two years, two years, I
[22:36] believe, and during that time, it was
[22:38] such a pleasure to work with you and
[22:42] one of my favorite
[22:43] things about being on that
[22:45] commission was really knowing it was
[22:46] one of the few commissions that I did
[22:47] not have to worry about at all because
[22:51] that commission was run and led by you
[22:55] in your very capable hands and not
[22:57] only did I not have to worry but I had
[23:00] such faith in your leadership and in
[23:09] your equity focus and the shared
[23:13] leadership that you had, the amazing
[23:14] team, the trust that you built,
[23:17] the shared decision-making, the
[23:20] community focus, the true focus on
[23:22] kids, on community, on families that
[23:27] was evident in every single decision
[23:29] that was made, the transparency, it
[23:32] really just was like the example of
[23:35] how to make really good decisions for
[23:39] kids for our littlest ones in a way
[23:41] that I think is a true model to other
[23:45] organizations, so thank you for doing
[23:47] that.
[23:48] thank you for creating that model, for
[23:52] leaving it in very capable hands and I
[23:55] know you're going to enjoy your
[23:58] preferment and you won't be too far
[24:00] and I'm just grateful for the work
[24:02] that you have done and, yeah, thank
[24:08] you so much.
[24:09] I don't know if any of my colleagues
[24:11] want to share.
[24:12] kitty will have the last word.
[24:14] >> sure, I want to say to kitty, you
[24:16] know, thank you for leading with
[24:18] heart, for taking care of those who
[24:20] are most vulnerable who needed that
[24:23] support.
[24:24] I will miss you, well, I don't --
[24:26] hopefully you'll be going to progress
[24:32] because you were my dance partner.
[24:33] but you know, I just want to say
[24:34] congratulations on preferment, I love
[24:35] that idea to be able to do what you
[24:37] prefer, all along, I think you've done
[24:39] what you've preferred because you've
[24:41] been taking care of individuals this
[24:42] whole time.
[24:44] congratulations on reaching this
[24:45] milestone, I hope to see you at next
[24:49] progress.
[24:50] >> kitty, I want to thank you for your
[24:51] service.
[24:52] I think about the staff, the
[24:54] development, michelle blackly who I
[24:55] knew for a long time through star
[24:57] vista, I think you've always had a
[25:00] collaborative approach and really
[25:01] working with the boards, I served on
[25:05] the board very, very briefly but I saw
[25:08] how you've conducted yourself and your
[25:11] preferment is well deserved, so thank
[25:14] you, madam chair.
[25:15] >> please go ahead, kitty.
[25:18] >> first of all, thank you, supervisor
[25:22] corzo and supervisor speier and fellow
[25:27] supervisors, mike callagy, yes, it's
[25:28] kind of freaky to know that both mike
[25:31] and supervisor speier have known me so
[25:33] long, 25 years, if you combine my work
[25:36] at samaritan house and first 5.
[25:42] it has been an honor.
[25:45] I wasn't going to get e-mail, but
[25:52] that's hard for me to not do.
[25:53] but it's been an honor to serve in
[25:54] this county in the two primary
[25:56] prolepses I've had at samaritan house
[26:00] working with folks in need and then at
[26:03] first 5.
[26:05] and the through line in that, that was
[26:10] very purposeful, running samaritan
[26:12] house and building that organization
[26:14] to be a primary safety net provider
[26:17] but I always wanted to find out how
[26:20] can we -- of course it's great to have
[26:23] our non-profit partners but I want to
[26:25] find out how can we do things
[26:27] differently for our young children and
[26:30] their families to help them grow and
[26:34] thrive without necessarily needing
[26:37] services.
[26:38] it's hard to do in today's world
[26:40] because everybody needs money and
[26:43] support and not everybody has it.
[26:46] but I learned that all the research
[26:48] says you have to start when children
[26:50] are young and I still believe that and
[26:52] the research still shows that.
[26:55] I learned all of this from my father
[26:57] who was an immigrant to this country
[27:00] many, many years ago from mexico,
[27:03] studied medicine at usc and built a
[27:06] family practice in los angeles, he was
[27:08] a family doctor for over 40 years on
[27:11] hollywood boulevard.
[27:12] and yes, there were stories, I might
[27:14] have to kill you if I told you, but
[27:17] everybody knew hill and he knew
[27:19] everybody and he delivered everybody's
[27:22] babies and helped folks, aging parents
[27:25] and all the ages in between.
[27:28] and he believed in what could be
[27:30] possible and how could we all do it
[27:32] together.
[27:33] and that's sort of my motto, I love
[27:35] that word possibility and how can we
[27:38] build possibility for our kids and
[27:41] families, particularly for those who
[27:43] are farthest from it.
[27:45] that's our role and I hope that that
[27:48] work continues.
[27:49] thank you so very much for this honor.
[27:53] [applause].
[27:54] >> we have a resolution.
[27:58] >> do we want to vote real quick?
[28:02] did we vote on it yet, public comment?
[28:04] >> that's true.
[28:08] >> okay, sorry.
[28:10] >> let's take public comment and then
[28:13] we can vote.
[28:14] >> alright, I do not have speaker
[28:16] cards from chambers.
[28:17] if you would like to make a comment on
[28:19] item 1, please raise your hand on zoom
[28:21] at this time.
[28:22] alright, I do have one hand raised for
[28:26] natalia.
[28:27] if you can please unmute.
[28:28] >> hello.
[28:31] >> can you hear me?
[28:32] >> yes, we can hear you.
[28:34] >> hi, I'm not sure if I'm speaking on
[28:37] the right time slot, I was trying to
[28:39] connect before and something
[28:42] happened.
[28:43] >> natallia, this is for item 1.
[28:46] >> I think you might be wanting to be
[28:48] speak on a different item, this is a
[28:50] presentation to congratulate kitty
[28:52] lopez on her retirement.
[28:54] >> when can I speak about horizon?
[28:56] >> that will be at a later time?
[28:59] >> it will be item 9.
[29:01] >> we do not have a guaranteed time.
[29:04] >> okay, thanks.
[29:09] >> final call for item 1, we do have
[29:12] michelle, please unmute and begin.
[29:14] >> good morning, board of supervisors,
[29:17] and kitty, this is michelle, we're so
[29:20] looking forward to celebrating you in
[29:21] a couple of events this week and you're
[29:29] an amazing leader and a beautiful
[29:30] human, so hope to see you all soon and
[29:31] enjoy your preferment.
[29:33] >> alright, that concludes public
[29:35] comment.
[29:36] >> thank you, is there a motion to
[29:38] approve this proclamation?
[29:39] >> so moved.
[29:40] >> thank you, second?
[29:41] >> second.
[29:42] >> roll call vote, please.
[29:43] >> supervisor speier?
[29:44] >> aye.
[29:45] >> supervisor mueller?
[29:46] >> yes.
[29:47] >> supervisor gauthier?
[29:48] >> yes.
[29:49] >> supervisor canepa?
[29:50] >> aye.
[29:51] >> president corzo?
[29:52] >> yes.
[29:53] >> motion passes unanimously.
[29:55] >> come on up, kitty, we'd like to
[29:58] give you your proclamation.
[30:12] ( taking photograph ).
[31:07] >> okay.
[31:08] with that, we will move on to item
[31:11] number 2, presentation of a
[31:14] proclamation honoring international
[31:18] overdose awareness day, and I'll be
[31:21] passing it to supervisor ray mueller.
[31:23] >> thank you, president corzo.
[31:25] I want to start by thanking one of my
[31:29] summer interns, mia burko who worked
[31:32] on this proclamation.
[31:33] august 31 is recognized as
[31:41] international overdose awareness day.
[31:44] we stand families who are still
[31:45] grieving them and to acknowledge the
[31:50] crisis that reached every community,
[31:53] we need to talk about this openly.
[31:54] I want to recognize healing overdose
[31:57] prevention and education hope,
[32:00] pacifica organization founded by runda
[32:05] and clarence davis whose annual walk
[32:07] is this saturday august 29, I want to
[32:10] invite you to join hope's walk and
[32:12] resource fair at 10 a.m. At 399 rena
[32:17] delmar pacifica, it's so moving, there
[32:20] are so many families present there
[32:23] with pictures of those they've lost.
[32:24] hope has been able to install
[32:28] lifesaving narcan dispensers.
[32:35] this weekend we'll be donating more
[32:37] boxes of narcan to hope.
[32:40] easier access to narcan reduces
[32:43] overdose rates and saves life.
[32:45] we believe providing narcan in public
[32:49] spaces recognizes substance use
[32:51] disorder as a public health issues.
[32:56] the county team at behavioral health,
[33:01] I want to thank them for treatment
[33:09] prevention.
[33:10] ronnie brown is on the forefront of
[33:11] this fight.
[33:12] before transitioning into community
[33:13] health planning, dr. Brown spent 27
[33:16] years as a correctional dentist in the
[33:20] main detention facility where the
[33:23] specialized clinic became a clinic
[33:26] for institutional settings and it was
[33:27] there she saw the impact of this
[33:30] problem.
[33:31] dr. Brown?
[33:32] >> thank you so much for that
[33:33] introduction.
[33:34] my name is dr. Ronnie brown, I work in
[33:37] behavioral health recovery service as
[33:39] senior community health planner
[33:41] overseeing overdose education and
[33:42] response and I also serve as the chair
[33:44] of the overdose prevention coalition.
[33:48] august 31 is international overdose
[33:50] awareness day where the global
[33:53] community comes together to honor, to
[33:55] remember, to advocate for those lives
[33:57] who have been lost from an overdose.
[34:00] this year's theme is 25 years on still
[34:05] needed, marking 25 years since its
[34:10] inception in 2001, but that tagline
[34:15] still challenges us to ask this
[34:17] question why is this day still needed.
[34:19] this day is still needed buzz overdose
[34:22] death rates remain high in the united
[34:23] states.
[34:24] according to provisional data from the
[34:27] centers of disease control, in 2025,
[34:29] there were 69 thousand 973 americans
[34:33] who lost their lives from a drug
[34:37] overdose.
[34:38] now this tragedy is not just a
[34:40] national tragedy, we see it here in
[34:42] san mateo county.
[34:43] according to the california overdose
[34:45] surveillance dashboard in 2024, there
[34:48] were 54 individuals who died from an
[34:51] opioid involved overdose.
[34:52] the majority of sourdoughs do involve
[34:56] synthetic opioids, specifically
[34:59] fentanyl.
[35:00] this day is still needed because
[35:02] overdoses are a preventable cause of
[35:05] death.
[35:06] now, an overdose is when a drug or a
[35:08] combination of drugs exceeds the
[35:09] brain's ability to regulate body
[35:13] temperature, heart rate, consciousness
[35:14] and breathing.
[35:16] and in an overdose, breathing slows
[35:19] down or stops.
[35:20] and then the count down between
[35:23] survival and death begins, one minute,
[35:26] two minutes, three minutes, there's
[35:29] mental confusion, four minutes, five
[35:31] minutes, six minutes, brain cells
[35:33] begin to die, 7 minutes, 8 minutes, 9
[35:38] minutes, there's ir referable brain
[35:42] damage.
[35:43] after ten minutes, brain death can
[35:44] occur.
[35:45] it's what happened in those precious
[35:46] moments that makes the decision and
[35:48] determination between survival and
[35:51] death.
[35:52] first a bystander needs to be able to
[35:54] recognize the signs of an opioid
[35:59] overdose, acronym blue, b, breathing slows
[36:04] down our stop, l stands for lips
[36:05] turning blue, u stands for
[36:08] unconsciousness, e stands for eyes
[36:10] that become constricted.
[36:11] the by standard to administer narcan,
[36:18] a lifesaving method.
[36:21] the bystander needs the stay within
[36:23] the individual, perform cpr if trained
[36:25] to do so and if it's indicated and way
[36:28] for medical personnel to arrive.
[36:32] narcan is a preventable cause of death.
[36:34] this day is still needed because
[36:37] stigma related barriers decrease
[36:39] individual's access for
[36:40] receiving the treatment they need.
[36:42] in 2024, according to the national
[36:45] survey on drug use and health, only
[36:46] one out of every five americans 12
[36:49] years and older who needed substance
[36:52] use treatment received substance use
[36:55] treatment.
[36:56] the adults surveyed in the study cited
[36:58] worry as the reason why they didn't
[37:01] seek treatment, worry about what
[37:04] people would think, worry about what
[37:05] people would say, it's reducing stigma,
[37:08] providing compassionate care,
[37:09] meeting people where they're at,
[37:13] encouraging people with substance use
[37:17] disorders to get treatment what they
[37:19] need and reduce the substance use
[37:22] overdoses.
[37:23] this work needs to be done.
[37:25] in 2024, the board held a special
[37:29] session and they had bhrs to have stop
[37:33] measures.
[37:34] we have done that in collaboration
[37:37] with the overdose prevention coalition.
[37:39] we have distributed 3223 boxes in the
[37:44] lock zone out into the community.
[37:47] every box represents potential.
[37:49] every box represents hope that a life
[37:52] can be saved but, board, there's more
[37:54] work for us to do, we need your help
[37:57] to identify spaces and places in your
[38:00] district to expand a lock zone
[38:02] distribution efforts.
[38:03] in cosigning, I -- closing, I do want
[38:07] to share with you the tagline for this
[38:10] year's theme, it says even though this
[38:12] day is still needed, it doesn't have
[38:15] to be forever.
[38:17] let's strive on not making this
[38:19] forever.
[38:20] I appreciate the time.
[38:21] thank you.
[38:24] [applause].
[38:27] >> with that, I will go ahead and move
[38:30] the proclamation forward.
[38:31] >> second.
[38:32] >> supervisor speier?
[38:37] >> aye.
[38:38] >> supervisor mueller?
[38:39] >> we haven't taken public comment and
[38:42] I wanted to say something briefly.
[38:43] did you want to say something as well?
[38:47] >> go ahead, supervisor speier?
[38:48] >> I want to thank dr. Brown.
[38:51] she was kind enough to come and do a a
[38:54] brown bag lunch for our interns, they
[38:58] were very impressed and your message
[39:01] about bystander engagement is so
[39:04] important as we deal with this crisis,
[39:06] so thank you.
[39:09] >> thank you.
[39:10] I just wanted to briefly say that I
[39:13] got the opportunity to see dr. Brown
[39:15] in action one day.
[39:17] I'm forgetting the name of the
[39:19] organization and the walk, but
[39:20] supervisor mueller was there and
[39:23] pacifica.
[39:24] it was -- what was it called?
[39:27] hope.
[39:28] hope had a walk and it was very moving.
[39:31] there was a walk to honor people who
[39:40] had overdosed and it was family
[39:43] members and even strangers carrying
[39:45] the pictures of folks that had
[39:47] overdosed but there was a training
[39:49] that dr. Brown did at this community
[39:53] event and the training was excellent,
[39:55] so much so that like a member of my
[39:58] team and I sat down and actually
[40:01] listened to the majority of the
[40:03] training and learned so much and so if
[40:08] anyone here ever gets the opportunity
[40:09] to take one of these training, please
[40:12] do so, it is so worth it and I wanted
[40:15] to share as well that I personally do
[40:19] carry in a lock zone in my car, our
[40:23] team carries in the lock zone in our
[40:24] tabling and office hours box and I
[40:28] know that our county had the intention
[40:33] of having a distribution box in front
[40:38] of the courthouse and that didn't work
[40:40] out for some reason but I would like
[40:45] to share the idea that why don't we
[40:47] just put like a sign up there and put
[40:49] the box in front of this building and
[40:51] we can put a sign over there and
[40:52] can know that we have one
[40:54] here and they can walk over and get
[40:57] one and let's make that more
[40:59] accessible.
[41:00] I also think we can put some at other
[41:03] sites, but we can do that, you know,
[41:05] if there are places that aren't
[41:07] willing to have the box, we can still
[41:12] get -- overcome those barriers.
[41:15] so, thank you.
[41:17] and did anyone else want to make
[41:19] comments?
[41:20] supervisor gauthier?
[41:21] >> I want to say, dr. Brown, thank you
[41:22] for your presentation.
[41:23] I would love to have you come to
[41:25] district 4 and meet with some of our
[41:28] non-profits.
[41:29] I know that there are families that
[41:31] are streamlining right -- dealing
[41:36] right now in the hospital trying to
[41:39] recover from a drug overdose, keeping
[41:41] them in mind.
[41:42] I appreciate you coming here, we need
[41:44] to understand more and educate our
[41:46] community members more often, so I
[41:47] will be reaching out to our office to
[41:50] schedule some training.
[41:52] >> okay, public comment, please, or
[41:54] did you want to say something?
[41:57] public comment, please.
[41:58] >> I do not have speaker cards from
[42:00] chambers, we'll go to zoom for
[42:02] item 2.
[42:03] I do have one hand raised, it's final
[42:05] call for item number 2.
[42:07] we'll go ahead and start with isabel,
[42:09] please unmute and begin.
[42:15] >> good morning, board of supervisors,
[42:17] I want to say that today's
[42:19] proclamation recognizing august 31 as
[42:21] international overdose awareness day
[42:22] is an important reminder of the lives
[42:25] impacted by overdose and the work
[42:26] being done to prevent future loss.
[42:29] just a special acknowledgment to
[42:34] ronnie brown and the san mateo county
[42:35] overdose prevention coalition for
[42:37] their dedication through strong
[42:39] partnerships and education and
[42:41] outreach.
[42:42] expanded access to lifelong lock zone,
[42:45] ronnie and her partners continue to
[42:48] make a meaningful difference
[42:49] throughout san mateo county, thank you
[42:50] so much, it's such a great honor.
[42:52] >> thank you.
[42:54] and that concludes public comment.
[42:56] >> thank you, roll call vote, please.
[42:58] >> supervisor speier?
[42:59] >> aye.
[43:00] >> supervisor mueller?
[43:01] >> yes.
[43:02] >> supervisor gauthier?
[43:03] >> yes.
[43:04] >> supervisor canepa?
[43:05] >> yes.
[43:06] >> and president corzo?
[43:07] >> yes, as I vote, I'm thinking about the
[43:10] many friends I have lost to overdose.
[43:13] >> motion passes unanimous.
[43:17] >> with that, we have a proclamation
[43:18] to present.
[43:19] >> we'll now present the proclamation.
[43:22] ( presenting proclamation ).
[44:46] >> okay, moving on to presentation of
[44:50] a proclamation designating august 26
[44:53] as women's equality day.
[44:54] supervisor gauthier?
[44:59] >> thank you, chair.
[45:00] and I just want to recognize from this
[45:04] dais, there are three women sitting
[45:05] here so we should all take an
[45:09] opportunity to sponsor, I have words
[45:10] on this item, I know supervisor
[45:12] speier, this was your item that you
[45:15] brought forward to the county sometime
[45:18] ago.
[45:19] so, today we recognize women equality
[45:22] day, commemorating the certification
[45:24] of the 19th amendment and 1920 which
[45:28] recognized women's constitutional
[45:29] right to vote.
[45:30] the 19th amendment was a landmark
[45:33] achievement with a fight for equality
[45:35] did not end with women gaining the
[45:37] right to vote.
[45:39] many women, particularly women of
[45:41] color continued to fight significant
[45:44] barriers to voting and civic
[45:47] participation for decades.
[45:48] women's equality day is a reminder
[45:52] that representation matters, when
[45:53] women are able to participate fully in
[45:56] our democracy and serve in leadership,
[45:59] our communities benefit from a
[46:01] broader range of experience and
[46:05] perspectives.
[46:06] as elected officials, we have the
[46:07] responsibility to ensure that women and
[46:10] girls across san mateo county have
[46:13] opportunities to participate, lead and
[46:15] have their voices heard in the
[46:17] decisions that affect their families
[46:18] and communities.
[46:21] equality also means addressing the
[46:23] barriers that continue to affect women
[46:27] including economic opportunities,
[46:29] access to education, affordable child
[46:33] care, housing stability and
[46:34] opportunities for leadership.
[46:38] we should especially encourage women
[46:40] and girls to see themselves as future
[46:43] leaders.
[46:44] whether in government, business,
[46:46] education, public service or their
[46:49] communities, women's equality day is
[46:51] both a celebration of how far we've
[46:53] come and a reminder that our work
[46:58] toward full equality continues.
[47:00] we can honor this -- the women who
[47:02] fought for the rights we have today
[47:05] by continuing to create opportunities
[47:07] for every woman and girl to
[47:10] participate, lead and thrive.
[47:14] I'm going to ask my colleagues if you
[47:16] would like to have words.
[47:18] >> thank you, and thank you,
[47:20] supervisor gauthier, for bringing this
[47:23] resolution to our attention.
[47:25] today is the day in 1920 when women
[47:30] actually got the right to vote but I'm
[47:35] not going to talk about the past, I'm
[47:38] going to talk about the future and I'm
[47:40] going to put this on to show that
[47:46] equal rights amendment has not passed
[47:48] and we need to think about future.
[47:53] it is 24 words, it has been introduced
[47:56] in the congress of the united states
[47:59] every single session and we have still
[48:02] not passed it.
[48:06] there are 165 countries around the
[48:10] world that have embraced the equal
[48:13] rights amendment in their
[48:16] constitutions, that's 85% of the
[48:20] united nations members, only 10% of
[48:22] the countries have not.
[48:24] and the united states is one of them.
[48:28] it's a shameful recognition that we
[48:31] have not found the will to pass this
[48:36] amendment and put it into our
[48:39] constitution.
[48:40] so, I wish the young women who were
[48:42] here earlier could have been here for
[48:43] this so they recognize this is the
[48:46] challenge for them and for all of us
[48:48] as we move forward.
[48:53] >> thank you.
[48:57] I want to thank you as well for
[49:00] bringing this forward.
[49:05] I think about the reality that young
[49:09] women today have seen the stripping of
[49:12] some of the rights that women have
[49:15] fought so hard for in past generations
[49:22] and I'm just filled with the emotion
[49:27] that -- that the fight is not over,
[49:45] right, that we'll see the pendulum
[49:52] swing back, that we will get that
[49:55] passed, we will.
[49:56] I think we see especially in
[50:00] california, more women in the
[50:02] assembly, in the senate than ever
[50:07] before and the nation will follow in
[50:11] due time and we'll get there.
[50:14] so, while I am filled with a little
[50:16] bit of sorrow, I'm filled with great
[50:19] hope and the rights that women fought
[50:23] for in the past, we will solidify and
[50:33] build upon like we always have.
[50:36] I also want to take a moment to share
[50:40] kind of a dream of mine that I have
[50:44] and I'll give san francisco a quick
[50:48] shout-out in this moment.
[50:52] you know, I think about the right to
[50:56] vote and how some of the
[50:58] vulnerabilities of the immigrant
[51:00] community is due to the fact that they
[51:02] do not have a right to vote.
[51:04] they don't have that political power
[51:08] and san francisco does allow
[51:11] undocumented people to vote in school
[51:12] board elections where their children
[51:15] are in schools and I think that's
[51:17] admirable and that gives them a step
[51:21] into a political process where they
[51:22] have a lot of stake, they have a lot
[51:26] of stake in the game, so I want to
[51:28] kind of throw that idea out there as a
[51:34] dream for this county.
[51:37] and with that, I'll end my comments
[51:42] here, but yeah, just kind of like
[51:44] feeling this moment of -- there' --
[51:48] there's a lot of weight right now
[51:52] and as we're half way through this
[51:56] current presidential term, I just -- I
[51:58] have a lot of hope for when this
[52:02] presidential term is over and what we
[52:04] can really get done when we get to
[52:06] start a new chapter.
[52:07] thank you.
[52:08] supervisor mueller?
[52:12] >> I want to thank my colleagues for
[52:14] bringing this item.
[52:15] I vote for it today thinking of my
[52:19] daughter, thank you.
[52:20] >> supervisor canepa?
[52:21] >> great, I just really want to thank
[52:23] our commission on the stat of women,
[52:24] you have done such a -- let's give
[52:26] them a round of applause.
[52:31] [applause].
[52:32] just such an amazing job.
[52:33] we really have extraordinary and
[52:37] competent leadership and I think this
[52:39] commission has made since I've been on
[52:41] this board an indelible mark in terms
[52:44] of not only women's lives but
[52:49] children's lives and residents' lives
[52:51] in general, it's been a high
[52:53] functioning commission that has been
[52:58] engaged and it's great to see.
[52:59] I want to recognize supervisor
[53:01] gauthier, supervisor corzo and
[53:03] supervisor speier for your leadership
[53:06] and supervisor gauthier being a
[53:08] sponsor of this says a lot.
[53:10] I know you're involved and engaged,
[53:14] you were on the east palo alto city
[53:17] council, but I'm happy to be a
[53:23] part of this celebration, I applaud
[53:24] each of your efforts in term of your
[53:25] leadership positions in the county.
[53:26] >> thank you.
[53:31] >> public comment, please.
[53:32] >> the commission's going to --
[53:34] >> I forgot about that part, please,
[53:38] we welcome your comments.
[53:39] >> I want to say I just thank
[53:41] everyone for your comments.
[53:43] I often say when you know better, you
[53:45] do better.
[53:46] in the united states, we know bet and
[53:50] her we have refused to have equal
[53:52] rights.
[53:53] I would like to invite my sisters in
[53:57] the equality fight who are showing up
[53:59] today in white to show unity in this
[54:02] work to the dais to give your remarks.
[54:06] >> thank you.
[54:08] good morning, honorable supervisors,
[54:10] county executives and staff.
[54:11] my name is anne gerard, the president
[54:16] of the commission on the status of
[54:17] women and I'm joined by vice-president
[54:22] lasanadra gutter.
[54:24] we bring hope and we want to thank you
[54:26] for all the support you have given us,
[54:29] for the initiatives we continue to
[54:31] advocate for but we are working
[54:33] together to improve the lives of women
[54:35] and families in the county.
[54:38] but most recently, your efforts to
[54:40] personally meet with stakeholders
[54:43] about child care, the allocation of
[54:46] measure k funds for the baby bonus,
[54:49] the investment of 10 million dollars
[54:52] and the one stop navigation portal,
[54:56] the trishare pilot program and the
[54:59] ongoing work to reduce the pay equity
[55:05] gap which currently is 4% in the
[55:06] county.
[55:07] we have work to do there and on the
[55:09] era.
[55:10] but we're here today together with our
[55:13] commission members and supporters to
[55:16] celebrate the 19th amendment to the
[55:19] u.s. Constitution which granted women
[55:21] the right to vote.
[55:22] but there's a really important part of
[55:24] that history that needs to be
[55:28] acknowledged.
[55:29] >> good morning, board and the
[55:32] executive team, so my name's lasandra
[55:34] gutter and I do feel like my comments
[55:38] have been said already but I feel
[55:41] they're important so I'm going to say
[55:43] them again.
[55:45] as we recognize women's equality
[55:47] day, the ratification of the 19th
[55:50] amendment and the women who fought
[55:52] courageously for the right to vote, we
[55:56] must also remember that native
[56:00] american, black, asian, latina and
[56:04] immigrant women were among those left
[56:09] behind.
[56:10] discrimination and jim crow laws were
[56:12] very active during that period in our
[56:15] history, silencing many voices, voting
[56:17] is having a voice.
[56:21] so, today I wonder how many women
[56:25] sitting in chambers would have been
[56:27] afforded the opportunity to vote to
[56:30] use her voice?
[56:33] well, the commission on the status of
[56:36] women is hosting an event today at the
[56:40] burlingame community center from 4:30
[56:42] to 6:00.
[56:44] we're in collaboration with kqed and
[56:47] we will be presenting a panel on
[56:49] affordability in san mateo county
[56:53] giving real-life examples of how
[56:56] voting can impact communities for the
[56:59] better.
[57:00] this is in keeping with the
[57:02] commission's focus on economic
[57:04] empowerment of women and we hope that
[57:07] the board and everyone in the room
[57:09] gets the opportunity to come today or
[57:12] I know we're going to have it
[57:15] streamed, to watch it because ut's
[57:16] going to be important and it's going to
[57:18] be fun because we're all going to be
[57:19] there, so thank you so much.
[57:22] >> thank you, lasandra.
[57:24] I think you've got the message that
[57:26] we're talking about voting and we hope
[57:29] everyone exercises their right this
[57:31] year and every year but we want to
[57:34] inspire you, we have a video that we
[57:37] have produced with supervisor
[57:40] gauthier's can-do attitude and her
[57:46] staff, bridgett berry, I'm not sure
[57:49] she's here, bridgett, you could stand
[57:51] up.
[57:54] [applause].
[57:55] bridgett shared her talents with us,
[57:56] so we'll let it roll.
[57:59] ( playing video ).
[58:03] >> I feel like I can make a difference.
[58:07] >> all votes matter.
[58:08] >> my voice deserves to be heard and
[58:10] will shape the future.
[58:11] >> I wasn't born with this right, I
[58:14] chose to become an american and voting
[58:16] is one way to honor that choice.
[58:19] >> voting is the foundation of our
[58:21] democracy.
[58:22] >> because it's the cornerstone of
[58:24] democracy.
[58:25] >> every vote matters, what may seem
[58:26] one vote if in hundreds of millions is
[58:31] inconsequential, together they make a
[58:32] huge difference.
[58:34] >> my daughter's daughter's daughter is
[58:37] inheriting this.
[58:38] >> I feel it's particularly important
[58:39] for me to be a voice for immigrants
[58:41] especially since so many of us don't
[58:42] have the right to vote.
[58:44] >> just because I matter.
[58:45] >> in a time where there is so much
[58:52] [inaudible]
[58:53] >> when I think of voting, I think of
[58:55] the word matter.
[58:56] matter means you take up space and I
[58:59] proudly take up space to share my
[59:01] voice and to vote.
[59:04] >> my parents and grandparents use
[59:05] their vote to make a better life for
[59:07] me.
[59:08] I want to use my vote to make a better
[59:10] life for my children and grandchildren.
[59:13] >> added to others, it makes the
[59:15] decision not only for our country and
[59:17] our state but for local issues as well
[59:20] and reflecting on my community.
[59:23] >> democracy is not a spectator
[59:27] sport.
[59:28] ( video complete ).
[59:32] [applause].
[59:35] >> it gets me every time.
[59:37] I don't know about you.
[59:38] so, I would like to invite our
[59:40] commission to come up and celebrate
[59:45] the day with all of you.
[59:49] >> yes, why don't you come up, but we
[59:51] will take public comment and then
[59:53] vote, but you can come up, go ahead,
[59:55] so we're ready, let's take public
[59:57] comment.
[59:58] >> we're taking public comment on item
[59:59] 3, the proclamation for women's
[1:00:01] equality tai.
[1:00:02] I do not have speaker cards for
[1:00:03] chambers, if you would like to make a
[1:00:06] comment online, please raise your hand
[1:00:07] at had this time.
[1:00:11] seeing no hands raised, there's no
[1:00:13] public comment for item number 3.
[1:00:17] >> okay, thank you.
[1:00:18] is there a motion to approve?
[1:00:20] >> I move approval
[1:00:22] of the proclamation.
[1:00:24] >> okay, motion and second, roll call
[1:00:27] vote.
[1:00:28] >> supervisor speier?
[1:00:29] >> aye.
[1:00:30] >> supervisor mueller?
[1:00:31] >> yes.
[1:00:32] >> supervisor gauthier?
[1:00:33] >> yes.
[1:00:34] >> supervisor canepa?
[1:00:35] >> aye.
[1:00:36] >> president corzo?
[1:00:37] >> yes.
[1:00:39] >> motion passes unanimously.
[1:00:40] >> okay.
[1:00:44] ( presenting proclamation ).
[1:02:03] >> okay, with that, we will move on
[1:02:05] to item number 4, presentation of a
[1:02:08] proclamation designating september
[1:02:10] 2026 as suicide prevention month, and
[1:02:15] supervisor canepa is the sponsor for
[1:02:17] this one.
[1:02:18] >> alright, thank you very much, madam
[1:02:20] chair.
[1:02:21] san mateo county joins communities
[1:02:23] across california and the nation in
[1:02:26] recognizing suicide prevention month
[1:02:30] in september, national suicide
[1:02:31] prevention work, september 6-12 and
[1:02:34] world suicide prevention day on
[1:02:35] september 10.
[1:02:37] this observance reinforce as critical
[1:02:39] message, suicide is preventable and
[1:02:41] every member of our community can play
[1:02:43] a role in offering hope, connection
[1:02:45] and support.
[1:02:48] in 2025, 65 san mateo county residents
[1:02:51] died by suicide.
[1:02:52] during that same year, the 988 suicide
[1:02:56] and crisis lifeline operated locally
[1:02:59] by the felton institute's
[1:03:02] peninsula suicide prevention
[1:03:05] received 9212 calls, 1073 chats and
[1:03:12] 1735 text messages from people seeking
[1:03:15] support.
[1:03:16] this year's theme, the weight we
[1:03:19] carry recognizes that many people,
[1:03:21] particularly men and boy of diverse
[1:03:23] sexual orientations and gender
[1:03:25] identities may carry invisible burdens
[1:03:27] such as emotional pain, stress, grief,
[1:03:31] isolation and social expectations.
[1:03:33] consistent with the state governor's
[1:03:35] executive order and 31-25 and the
[1:03:40] board's 2024 resolution recognizing
[1:03:44] loneliness as a public health crisis,
[1:03:46] this observance calls on our community
[1:03:47] to reduce stigma, strengthen belonging
[1:03:49] and social connection and ensure that
[1:03:52] no one carries these burdens alone.
[1:03:53] I want to recognize the partners
[1:03:57] contributing to the suicide prevention
[1:03:58] work, I would like to thank my
[1:03:59] colleagues on the board who have in
[1:04:01] different ways contributed to suicide
[1:04:03] prevention in our county, the felton
[1:04:06] institute peninsula suicide
[1:04:10] prevention team, taylor, walter,
[1:04:12] frankie and 24 crisis counselors, and
[1:04:16] our speakers today at san mateo county
[1:04:17] health, joining us to make a brief
[1:04:21] presentation include san mateo county
[1:04:23] health public health, policy and
[1:04:25] planning director, dr. Tamara jones
[1:04:28] and community health planner, sylvia
[1:04:31] tang, thank you for joining us today.
[1:04:33] >> welcome.
[1:04:45] >> good morning, president corzo,
[1:04:49] honorable supervisors, county
[1:04:51] executives, county staff and our
[1:04:54] community, I'm tamara jones, the
[1:04:55] director of public health policy and
[1:04:57] rabin and I'm honored to be here today
[1:05:02] to celebrate and thank you for the
[1:05:05] opportunity to recognize suicide
[1:05:07] prevention month and reaffirm the
[1:05:10] county's commitment to preventing
[1:05:14] suicide.
[1:05:16] since 2004, behavioral health and
[1:05:18] recovery services has advanced suicide
[1:05:21] prevention through the mental health
[1:05:23] services act funding.
[1:05:24] we want to recognize and thank bhrs
[1:05:29] for that leadership and this slide
[1:05:32] highlights a very small snippet of the
[1:05:36] wonderful and many contributions over
[1:05:38] the past two decades.
[1:05:41] as suicide prevention transitions to
[1:05:42] public health policy and planning
[1:05:46] under the behavioral health services
[1:05:48] act, we hope to build on that
[1:05:52] foundation.
[1:05:53] our work includes dedicated suicide
[1:05:57] prevention coordination, strategic
[1:05:58] planning and a focus on upstream
[1:06:03] prevention and policy, during this
[1:06:07] transition, our commitment to suicide
[1:06:08] prevention month and suicide
[1:06:11] prevention year-round remains
[1:06:13] steadfast.
[1:06:14] so, I'm joined today by the county
[1:06:18] suicide prevention coordinator and
[1:06:19] mitt myth tee co-chair, sylvia tang
[1:06:23] who will continue.
[1:06:30] >> good morning, suicide prevention
[1:06:31] month is to honor people affected by
[1:06:34] suicide, support those who are
[1:06:35] grieving and inspire collective action.
[1:06:38] the colors, purple and teal, represent
[1:06:44] suicide preparedness and health.
[1:06:46] suicide can be prevented, suicide
[1:06:48] affects all of us and talking openly
[1:06:51] and safely about suicide can save
[1:06:54] lives.
[1:06:55] so we want to reduce the shame and
[1:06:57] increase connection so we can lighten
[1:06:59] the weight that someone may be
[1:07:02] carrying and encourage them to seek
[1:07:06] support.
[1:07:07] throughout september, the suicide
[1:07:09] prevention committee, local cities and
[1:07:11] community artists will offer free
[1:07:13] in-person and virtual events, the
[1:07:14] updated information will be on our
[1:07:17] website.
[1:07:18] beyond september, we invite community
[1:07:20] participation in our suicide
[1:07:21] prevention committee for the county
[1:07:23] which provides guidance and oversight
[1:07:25] for suicide prevention throughout the
[1:07:28] county.
[1:07:31] every resident can help prevent
[1:07:32] suicide and we can to that by three
[1:07:36] key ways, one is learning the
[1:07:38] warning signs, two is knowing how to
[1:07:39] start a supportive conversation
[1:07:41] and three, connecting someone to
[1:07:45] support.
[1:07:46] key areas of support are local
[1:07:47] resources including the 988 suicide
[1:07:50] and crisis lifeline, alternatives to
[1:07:52] suicide peer support which is
[1:07:54] available for adults and youth and
[1:07:57] suicide law support group.
[1:08:00] we have great educational training and
[1:08:02] presentations by our partners as well
[1:08:05] and one key thing if you can't
[1:08:07] remember, anything I say is if you
[1:08:10] know anyone who is in emotional
[1:08:15] distress or thinking about suicide,
[1:08:16] please call 988, it could be for
[1:08:17] yourself or it could be for your loved
[1:08:21] one.
[1:08:22] and so I would like to -- we've
[1:08:26] invited michael to share a brief
[1:08:27] reflection of why this year's theme
[1:08:29] for suicide prevention is important to
[1:08:32] him and I'm hoping the video will
[1:08:36] work.
[1:08:37] >> hello, my name is michael
[1:08:39] coutts, I'm a san mateo county
[1:08:42] resident, a marine corps veteran,
[1:08:46] current navy reservist, an legislate
[1:08:50] rising's union apprentice as well as a
[1:08:51] mental health advocate, I serener five
[1:08:54] years as an infantry man including two
[1:09:00] deployments, and service members,
[1:09:02] first responders, veterans, I know
[1:09:03] there can be this unspoken and
[1:09:06] sometimes spoken expectation to carry
[1:09:07] a lot and to carry it quietly.
[1:09:11] that's why this year's suicide
[1:09:14] prevention month theme, the weight we
[1:09:16] carry, supporting men and boys' mental
[1:09:19] health resonates with me.
[1:09:20] strength isn't just about pushing
[1:09:22] through as hard or fast as we can,
[1:09:24] it's also about knowing whether to
[1:09:26] speak up, to check in on someone and
[1:09:28] to ask for support.
[1:09:31] this year, I'm honored to be a part of
[1:09:35] the upcoming event mission follows you
[1:09:37] home, veteran and first responder
[1:09:40] mental health forum on september 10.
[1:09:42] I hope you'll be there to join us as
[1:09:45] we have an important conversation
[1:09:48] about mental health, connection and
[1:09:49] supporting those who serve.
[1:09:50] thank you.
[1:09:55] >> big round of applause for michael,
[1:09:57] thank you, michael.
[1:10:00] [applause].
[1:10:01] and to close, we invite the san mateo
[1:10:04] county community to take action this
[1:10:05] september to support our community
[1:10:08] especially men and boys who may be
[1:10:11] less likely to ask for help.
[1:10:12] three key actions to emphasize, first,
[1:10:15] learning the warning signs including
[1:10:19] withdrawal, recklessness, major mood
[1:10:20] changes or talking about wanting to
[1:10:23] die.
[1:10:24] second, please share the suicide
[1:10:25] prevention events and resources
[1:10:28] especially 988.
[1:10:30] third, learn how to talk about suicide
[1:10:32] in a safe, compassionate and
[1:10:34] supportive way.
[1:10:37] normalize conversations about stress,
[1:10:39] grief and loneliness and show that
[1:10:40] reaching out is a sign of strength.
[1:10:43] and finally please consider joining
[1:10:47] our suicide prevention committee
[1:10:49] coalition.
[1:10:50] thank you, supervisor canepa,
[1:10:51] president corzo, and to member of the
[1:10:52] board of supervisors for your support
[1:10:54] and doing the suicide prevention work
[1:10:57] in different ways and helping -- and
[1:11:00] to everyone in our community for
[1:11:02] building hope, connection and
[1:11:07] belonging, together we can help ensure
[1:11:08] that no one has to carry this weight
[1:11:09] alone.
[1:11:10] thank you.
[1:11:15] >> thank you so much.
[1:11:17] did you want to share more comments,
[1:11:19] supervisor canepa?
[1:11:21] >> no
[1:11:22] >> any comments from my colleagues?
[1:11:24] okay.
[1:11:25] >> move the item.
[1:11:26] >> I just wanted to briefly say, you
[1:11:34] know, this topic hits close to home
[1:11:35] for me and sometimes it's a little
[1:11:43] overwhelming but I recently met with a
[1:11:55] small group of women who talked to me
[1:11:58] about being a part of their child's
[1:12:05] high school dlac committee and how
[1:12:11] they really wanted mental health and
[1:12:14] suicide prevention training in spanish
[1:12:16] and I talked to them about how I had
[1:12:19] gotten trained by nami to do a mental
[1:12:22] health training to freshmen and how I
[1:12:25] had done one and I didn't realize that
[1:12:29] like parents want to know this
[1:12:32] information and I told them about
[1:12:37] income ami and I don't know the if our
[1:12:38] county does that.
[1:12:39] we probable do, but -- probably do,
[1:12:42] if you need volunteers, I'm sure I
[1:12:45] could be trained myself or I could
[1:12:49] probably help like find people but it
[1:12:52] just made me really happy to know that
[1:12:56] even immigrants parents who don't
[1:12:59] speak english like really want this
[1:13:01] knowledge to help their kids and it
[1:13:10] gives me hope that we have families
[1:13:13] that want to break cycles and there's
[1:13:18] a thirst for knowledge, thank you for
[1:13:20] being part of the solution and for
[1:13:22] spreading all this good information
[1:13:25] and, yeah, I'm also grateful for the
[1:13:28] training that will happen on the 10th.
[1:13:33] I know in my district in foster city,
[1:13:38] we had an officer take his life I
[1:13:41] think a year or two ago at precinct
[1:13:43] and it was a really difficult tragedy
[1:13:48] for folks there, so it's very much
[1:13:52] needed.
[1:13:53] so, thank you.
[1:13:55] with that, I think we can move on to
[1:13:57] public comment.
[1:14:00] >> okay, we'll be taking public
[1:14:02] comment on item number 4, do you have
[1:14:05] two speaker cards from chambers, I'll
[1:14:08] start with walter ing and taylor coutts.
[1:14:26] >> good morning, my name is walter
[1:14:28] ing, the community engagement
[1:14:30] supervisor with peninsula suicide
[1:14:34] prevention, for over 60 years,
[1:14:35] our diverse team of 24 counselors have
[1:14:37] stood on the front lioness of crisis
[1:14:39] intervention here in san mateo county,
[1:14:41] we proudly answer local calls for the
[1:14:45] 98 crisis lifeline providing
[1:14:46] compassionate support for those
[1:14:48] experiencing mental health crisis.
[1:14:50] beyond the phone line and we deploy
[1:14:53] vital educational training, we provide
[1:14:56] [inaudible] to schools, to county
[1:14:59] agencies, to non-profits community
[1:15:01] organizations throughout san mateo
[1:15:03] county, bringing awarded of that
[1:15:05] information for that, but we extend
[1:15:07] our greatest grat taout to the suicide
[1:15:09] prevention committee as being a
[1:15:11] continued partner in helping create
[1:15:13] awareness about information about 988,
[1:15:16] but also for the leadership of
[1:15:19] everyone here presenting to this board
[1:15:20] because you guys all take a certain
[1:15:23] step towards that section of creating
[1:15:25] that awareness but also informing your
[1:15:28] own constituents of that information
[1:15:29] as well, so as we look ahead, we are
[1:15:32] immensely thankful for your continued
[1:15:33] support and we look forward to expand
[1:15:36] culturally responsive training both in
[1:15:37] different languages but also providing
[1:15:42] interpretation and providing services
[1:15:43] throughout the county creating that
[1:15:45] awareness as well.
[1:15:46] I have encountered a lot of
[1:15:48] individuals at tabling who have asked
[1:15:50] us about those magnets that are in
[1:15:53] spanish, they asked us if we do
[1:15:55] presentations in spanish, we don't at
[1:15:56] this time but I think in
[1:15:57] collaboration, we can do something
[1:15:59] with interpreters to provide that
[1:16:02] support and/or finding volunteers who
[1:16:04] might provide that support as well.
[1:16:06] again, 988 is a free confidential
[1:16:09] service available for all residents
[1:16:11] regardless of immigration status,
[1:16:13] regardless of what language you speak,
[1:16:15] support can be found through that
[1:16:17] resource, it is available 24 hours 7
[1:16:19] day asing week and it gives people
[1:16:23] services that they need at any time.
[1:16:26] don't wait, call 988.
[1:16:29] >> thank you.
[1:16:31] we'll do taylor coutts.
[1:16:44] >> good morning, I'm a very proud
[1:16:47] wife, I'm glad you got to meet my
[1:16:50] partner in crime, I'm his significant
[1:16:53] partner, taylor, and I'm honored to
[1:17:03] see this, our team is small but mighty,
[1:17:06] over 96% of our staff have lived
[1:17:08] experience with mental illness,
[1:17:09] suicide and suicide loss.
[1:17:14] so, this work is our heart's work.
[1:17:15] I'm proud to be here today alongside
[1:17:16] sylvia and our amazing county partners
[1:17:18] recognize september as suicide
[1:17:19] prevention month.
[1:17:20] theses more than a proclamation, it is
[1:17:21] a community commitment here in san
[1:17:24] mateo county ensuring people know they
[1:17:25] are not alone and help is available.
[1:17:29] peninsula suicide prevention is
[1:17:30] humbled to support our community
[1:17:31] across the continuum of care like
[1:17:34] walter mentioned, prevention,
[1:17:35] intervention and post mention, walking
[1:17:38] alongside folks and uplifting them
[1:17:41] through their hardest moments,
[1:17:45] supporting folks after loss, and
[1:17:47] ensuring folks are connected to one
[1:17:49] another and services so we can prevent
[1:17:51] crisis from happening.
[1:17:54] suicide is often an area of stigma,
[1:17:57] struggling to find meaning and hope
[1:17:59] and connection when things feel heavy
[1:18:00] is one of the most yun verse sal human
[1:18:04] experiences, this september we
[1:18:06] invite everyone to help create a
[1:18:07] community where service conversations
[1:18:09] are met with compassion and connection
[1:18:11] and hope without judgment.
[1:18:14] and we thank you all for your
[1:18:17] continued support and partnership
[1:18:18] with our work in this cause, this work
[1:18:19] cannot be done in isolation and
[1:18:20] together we can remind san mateo
[1:18:21] county that help is available and hope
[1:18:23] is possible and worth it and no one
[1:18:25] has to carry this weight alone.
[1:18:26] thank you.
[1:18:29] >> thank you.
[1:18:30] and we'll go to zoom.
[1:18:34] speaking on item number 4, this is
[1:18:35] going to be a final call for item 4.
[1:18:37] alright, we have four hands raised.
[1:18:41] natallia, please unmute and begin.
[1:18:42] >> hello.
[1:18:43] >> hello.
[1:18:48] >> as we approach suicide prevention
[1:18:51] month and overdose awareness day, I
[1:18:53] would like to stress how critical it
[1:18:55] is to select a quality well vetted
[1:18:58] provider of mental health and
[1:19:00] addiction treatment services.
[1:19:01] with that, I urge this board to
[1:19:04] immediately withdraw our county's
[1:19:06] endorsement and matching grant for
[1:19:09] horizon recovery services.
[1:19:11] in my city, they manage facility, as
[1:19:15] it has egregious operating history.
[1:19:19] >> natallia I'm going to please sd you
[1:19:21] to speak to this item only and reserve
[1:19:24] your comment for horizon when that is
[1:19:27] the actual item.
[1:19:28] >> I wasn't able to speak in public
[1:19:31] comment and you're not letting me
[1:19:32] speak now?
[1:19:33] >> if you are going to speak to
[1:19:36] suicide prevention month, you can
[1:19:37] speak.
[1:19:38] >> it is, like mental health and
[1:19:41] addiction treatment services.
[1:19:45] >> if you want to speak to suicide
[1:19:47] prevention month, please continue your
[1:19:49] comment, if not, we will move on to
[1:19:51] the next public commenter.
[1:19:53] >> okay, can you restart my time?
[1:20:03] okay, so yeah, it's critical to vet
[1:20:07] providers of mental health and
[1:20:11] addiction treatment services and I'm
[1:20:12] urging this board to immediately
[1:20:15] withdraw our county's endorsement and
[1:20:17] matching grant to recover -- to
[1:20:20] horizon recovery services
[1:20:21] >> let's move on to the next
[1:20:22] speaker, please.
[1:20:23] thank you.
[1:20:24] >> we'll go to laticia and lagia,
[1:20:29] please unmute and begin.
[1:20:32] >> good morning, my name is leticia, I
[1:20:36] serve on the behavioral health
[1:20:40] commission.
[1:20:41] I've also been a part of the suicide
[1:20:43] prevention committee and I just wanted
[1:20:45] to lend my voice in appreciation and
[1:20:50] support, really I could have possibly
[1:20:54] spoken for even the overdose a-- the
[1:20:58] previous proclamations, it just really
[1:21:00] as a san mateo resident and engaged
[1:21:05] community member, it just makes me
[1:21:07] very proud to know that as taylor just
[1:21:11] shared, just really display the
[1:21:15] commitment that we have as a county to
[1:21:18] care for our most vulnerable and there
[1:21:21] is a lot of education.
[1:21:24] I know there's certainly resources
[1:21:27] that I'm most proud of, you know, as I
[1:21:30] sit on the behavioral health
[1:21:32] commission, we are often seeing really
[1:21:38] witnessing firsthand and as advocates
[1:21:41] here in the community, it really just
[1:21:45] gives us immense -- yeah, just really
[1:21:48] pride in that what we see is a lot of
[1:21:54] collaboration, the community partners,
[1:21:57] there's unity, and it really does take
[1:22:01] that as was shared previously, each
[1:22:05] individual, each of us can make a
[1:22:08] difference as we are aware of the
[1:22:12] loneliness epidemic, it is real
[1:22:15] nationally and these are the types of
[1:22:19] ways in which celebrating
[1:22:23] proclamations as these, the training,
[1:22:25] education and coming together as a
[1:22:29] community partner I think just really
[1:22:32] makes difference, so thank you.
[1:22:34] >> thank you.
[1:22:35] we'll go ahead and go to lagia and
[1:22:38] then isabella.
[1:22:39] please unmute.
[1:22:43] >> good morning, supervisors,
[1:22:47] president corzo, staff and the public.
[1:22:49] my name is ligia, I use she/her
[1:22:56] pronoun, I'm the executive director of
[1:22:58] independence of individuals with
[1:22:59] disabilities and I'm speaking as board
[1:23:01] trustee for the san mateo union high
[1:23:03] school district.
[1:23:04] I wanted to -- I've been a member of
[1:23:07] the suicide prevention commission as
[1:23:10] well.
[1:23:11] I want to say thank you to the board
[1:23:14] for having this recognition.
[1:23:17] this committee is so important for our
[1:23:20] county, for information, education and
[1:23:25] awareness.
[1:23:26] we have a significant population of
[1:23:29] folks within our disabled community
[1:23:31] that have a lot of anxiety,
[1:23:36] depression, a lot of mental health
[1:23:37] needs related to losing their
[1:23:40] benefits, related to even just being
[1:23:43] isolated and losing their in-home care
[1:23:45] right now is a critical time for our
[1:23:48] community in being present and in
[1:23:51] being seen and just having the
[1:23:53] services that they need to feel
[1:23:58] connected.
[1:23:59] as a person with a disability, it's --
[1:24:02] I can speak to my own lived experience
[1:24:05] of not having enough care and how it
[1:24:08] relates to your mental health.
[1:24:10] it's very scary and it is extremely
[1:24:15] lonely and isolating, so I just want
[1:24:16] to say thank you to the board again
[1:24:19] and to the committee for including
[1:24:22] folks with disabilities within this
[1:24:24] topic and then also to not forget that
[1:24:27] our community is also unseen and
[1:24:31] vulnerable, so thank you very much and
[1:24:34] I'm grateful.
[1:24:37] >> thank you, we'll conclude with
[1:24:41] isabel, please unmute and begin.
[1:24:42] >> I wanted to start by thanking the
[1:24:45] board of supervisors by recognizing
[1:24:46] september as suicide prevention month
[1:24:49] and for continuing to bring attention
[1:24:51] to such an important work through san
[1:24:53] mateo county.
[1:24:55] also especially acknowledgment to
[1:24:58] sylvia tang for bringing awareness,
[1:25:01] education, resources and just hope to
[1:25:02] our community.
[1:25:03] and to sylvia for her continued
[1:25:05] dedication and hard work in bringing
[1:25:07] people and partners together many
[1:25:10] support of suicide prevention, so
[1:25:11] thank you.
[1:25:12] >> alright, thank you, that concludes
[1:25:16] public comment.
[1:25:17] >> okay.
[1:25:18] thank you so much for bringing this
[1:25:20] forward, supervisor canepa.
[1:25:21] and I would love to hear a motion.
[1:25:23] >> I'll move the item.
[1:25:24] >> second.
[1:25:25] >> we have a motion and a second,
[1:25:26] roll call vote.
[1:25:28] >> supervisor speier?
[1:25:29] >> aye.
[1:25:30] >> supervisor mueller?
[1:25:31] >> yes.
[1:25:32] >> supervisor gauthier?
[1:25:33] >> yes.
[1:25:34] >> supervisor canepa?
[1:25:35] >> aye.
[1:25:38] >> president corzo?
[1:25:39] >> aye.
[1:25:40] okay, we will now present the
[1:25:42] proclamation.
[1:25:43] ( presenting proclamation ).
[1:27:17] >> thank you, with that, we'll move
[1:27:19] on to item number 5, presentation on
[1:27:26] the impacts of an ongoing deficit for
[1:27:30] caltrain, and supervisor can --
[1:27:33] canepa is the sponsor.
[1:27:34] >> first of all, let me thank our
[1:27:37] executive director, michelle bouchard
[1:27:40] and casey who we'll be hearing
[1:27:42] later from.
[1:27:44] today caltrain carries a total of
[1:27:48] three freeway lanes worth of people
[1:27:51] during peak periods on highway 101
[1:27:54] where traffic is already at 93% of
[1:27:57] pre-pandemic levels at rush hour.
[1:28:00] although caltrain is one of the
[1:28:02] peninsula's greatest transportation
[1:28:04] assets is approaching a serious fiscal
[1:28:07] cliff that could have major
[1:28:09] consequences for san mateo county
[1:28:12] residents.
[1:28:13] the concern is especially striking
[1:28:14] because caltrain is succeeding,
[1:28:17] ridership is growing, customer
[1:28:20] satisfaction is strong and the new
[1:28:23] electrified system is providing
[1:28:26] faster, cleaner and more reliable
[1:28:29] service.
[1:28:30] we also know that caltrain is a key
[1:28:31] driver of economic activity for
[1:28:37] cities and businesses throughout san
[1:28:39] mateo county.
[1:28:41] with businesses with commercial
[1:28:43] properties located near stations.
[1:28:45] yet without a stable long term source
[1:28:47] of funding, caltrain could face an
[1:28:49] annual operating deficit of
[1:28:51] approximately 75 million dollars and
[1:28:54] potentially significant service
[1:28:55] reductions in the coming years.
[1:29:00] the consequences could be dramatic,
[1:29:03] the elimination of weekend services,
[1:29:06] trains running only once an hour,
[1:29:10] station closures, earlier service
[1:29:12] endings and fewer transportation
[1:29:14] options for families, workers,
[1:29:16] students and seniors.
[1:29:18] that would mean more cars on highway
[1:29:22] 101, more traffic and more pollution.
[1:29:24] it would also undermine the tremendous
[1:29:28] public investment already made to
[1:29:31] modernize and electrify this critical
[1:29:32] rail system.
[1:29:35] as a caltrain board member, I believe
[1:29:38] maintaining a strong transit system is
[1:29:40] an investment in our environment,
[1:29:42] economy and quality of life.
[1:29:44] with that, I would like to welcome
[1:29:49] michelle bouchard and casey to say a
[1:29:52] few words.
[1:29:53] >> thank you so much for your service
[1:29:54] on the caltrain board.
[1:29:56] president corzo, supervisors, I'm here
[1:29:59] to basically introduce casey who's
[1:30:00] going to be heavy lifting on this
[1:30:02] presentation, I did want to emphasize
[1:30:04] a few things that the supervisor
[1:30:07] mentioned in his introduction of this
[1:30:10] item.
[1:30:11] we are close to two years after having
[1:30:14] launched electrification.
[1:30:15] and I think by all accounts, really
[1:30:18] the investment that was made in the
[1:30:21] railroad really has transformed the
[1:30:24] service.
[1:30:25] this year, we were just announced
[1:30:29] apta's outstanding transportation
[1:30:30] agency and that's amongst all of the
[1:30:32] transit agencies in the united states
[1:30:33] and it really does bear out the
[1:30:35] benefit and the transformational
[1:30:37] quality of electrification.
[1:30:40] we also have been named fastest
[1:30:42] growing transit agency in the united
[1:30:44] states and that's as a result of
[1:30:46] having trip times that are much
[1:30:48] shorter, having a world class
[1:30:51] environment on board the train and all
[1:30:53] of the other associated benefits that
[1:30:56] electrification has brought.
[1:30:58] as you emphasized, supervisor, the
[1:31:00] benefits do not just accrue
[1:31:03] to our riders, they accrue to all of the
[1:31:06] stations where property values are
[1:31:07] enhanced and they also accrue to folks
[1:31:09] who are using 101 and 280 was we are
[1:31:13] taking three lanes of traffic.
[1:31:16] we are unfortunately at an inflection
[1:31:18] point and casey's going to present
[1:31:20] some slides, we have been talking to
[1:31:22] the caltrain board about for the last
[1:31:25] several months and have been
[1:31:27] preparing for what is an unfortunate
[1:31:30] as we call it fiscal cliff for the
[1:31:33] last few years, and casey's going tell
[1:31:35] you all of the steps we've taken to
[1:31:38] put ourselves in the best possible
[1:31:39] situation in terms of lowering co-s
[1:31:46] and increasing efficiencies and we do
[1:31:48] hope that there will be an opportunity
[1:31:49] for us to receive additional funding
[1:31:51] towards the end of the year and casey
[1:31:55] will talk about what we will continue
[1:31:56] to do to make ourselves a better
[1:31:59] railroad but also we'll describe some
[1:32:02] of the unfortunate consequences that
[1:32:03] we're facing.
[1:32:06] with that, I will introduce
[1:32:09] caltrain's chief of staff, casey
[1:32:14] fransin, chief of staff.
[1:32:17] >> I'll jump into the conversation
[1:32:19] hopefully.
[1:32:20] you guys know the organization well so
[1:32:22] I'm not going to go into that, when
[1:32:27] we've done information about the
[1:32:29] corridor, we have 82 favorability
[1:32:32] rating, if you ride the system, it's
[1:32:35] better and we're putting out a real
[1:32:38] world class system.
[1:32:40] and caltrain is something that's part
[1:32:42] of everybody's -- not everybody's but
[1:32:44] for millions of people, it's part of
[1:32:47] their daily existence, they take it to
[1:32:48] go to school, to work, to special
[1:32:51] events.
[1:32:52] it's part of their fabric of their day
[1:32:54] and as it's been mentioned, it's not
[1:32:56] just a daily part of people's lives,
[1:32:58] we have these big regional benefit
[1:33:01] from removing traffic to making a
[1:33:04] stronger economy, serving almost 40%
[1:33:05] of the bay area population and cleaner
[1:33:08] air when we think about the future
[1:33:10] generations and what our goals are, we
[1:33:12] have a system that's 100% renewable
[1:33:17] electric.
[1:33:18] and this slide talks about some of
[1:33:20] those benefits, we're not trying to
[1:33:22] not think just from our perspective,
[1:33:23] what are we doing for our
[1:33:25] communities and the region, higher
[1:33:27] property values, contributing to the
[1:33:29] higher tax base so people are able to
[1:33:34] invest those resources in other
[1:33:35] activities as well.
[1:33:36] we have lots of major initiatives
[1:33:37] along the corridor that's highlighted
[1:33:42] on the left side, I wanted to call out
[1:33:43] one smaller one, when we think about
[1:33:44] doing all these projects, how do we do
[1:33:45] them more cost effective with
[1:33:48] innovation, we're using technology
[1:33:51] that helped us in one of the crosses,
[1:33:53] we had three vehicles a week turning
[1:33:55] on to the tracks in that location, we
[1:33:57] worked with the local city, with the
[1:34:00] technology providers to make sure they
[1:34:01] can enhance the audio whether you go
[1:34:04] across the tracks and invested
[1:34:06] hundreds of thousands of dollars, not
[1:34:08] millions, with these cost effective
[1:34:12] tools and the items that you have up
[1:34:14] there, we've had 0 cars on the tracks
[1:34:16] since then, that's over a year and a
[1:34:18] half since we put that in place and
[1:34:20] we're rolling that out throughout the
[1:34:21] corridor to make it an even safer
[1:34:25] corridor.
[1:34:26] and everybody's talked about it, the
[1:34:28] three legged stool and what people
[1:34:29] want for their services, it's faster,
[1:34:31] more frequent, a better service and
[1:34:33] the fourth one which is a bonus is
[1:34:35] it's a great reliable system, 95%, you
[1:34:38] can time or schedule your day, your
[1:34:41] weekend around a service that's going
[1:34:43] to show up whether you need it to be
[1:34:46] there.
[1:34:47] as we've talked about with growing
[1:34:48] ridership, we have a lot of different
[1:34:50] numberers to cut this and show how
[1:34:51] much growth that we've had, but we see
[1:34:53] it not just on the people using it to
[1:34:56] get to and from work but we have the
[1:34:58] highest weekend ridership ever in the
[1:35:00] system so it's a 200% increase of
[1:35:03] what it was even pre-pandemic and we're
[1:35:06] also seeing people taking it to
[1:35:08] different events, sorting events,
[1:35:10] concerts, it's a service with a system
[1:35:12] we have that you can use it for lots
[1:35:14] of different activities, we have a dollar
[1:35:19] youth fare and they're bringing their
[1:35:23] parents on board to use it as well.
[1:35:26] our ridership has diversified, we have
[1:35:27] a system that works for everybody's
[1:35:32] schedules, and again, every single
[1:35:37] city is seeing this increase because
[1:35:40] we've expanded what our service
[1:35:43] increases are for everybody.
[1:35:48] we know that our partnerships with
[1:35:50] cities are really critical, they have
[1:35:51] the ability to help shape how
[1:35:54] communities interact with each of our
[1:35:55] stations so we put a special focus on
[1:35:58] our relationship with them and we've
[1:36:00] heard from cities too that they know
[1:36:02] -- they do some of these activities
[1:36:04] not just because it benefits the
[1:36:07] railroad, it benefits their community
[1:36:08] and how it brags with their downtown
[1:36:11] and the other local businesses we have
[1:36:13] there so we're leaning into this
[1:36:15] partnership and going into each of the
[1:36:16] cities along the corridor and
[1:36:19] highlighting the lovely amenities and
[1:36:21] things that happen in these
[1:36:23] communities, making it a win, win for
[1:36:25] these cities as well as there caltrain.
[1:36:27] so, shifting gears,
[1:36:32] those are a lot of the
[1:36:34] positive points but we have to be
[1:36:35] realistic about what we're facing as
[1:36:37] well.
[1:36:38] this shows the dramatic increase in
[1:36:40] ridership we've seen, in 2020, we had
[1:36:45] 2% of the ridership we had, we have
[1:36:46] this great trend that's occurring but
[1:36:47] it's not quite what it was in 2018,
[1:36:52] 2019.
[1:36:53] fares are a big piece of the puzzle
[1:36:54] for us, we withdrew to have 70% of our
[1:36:57] budget covered from fares, that was
[1:36:59] bringing in 100 million dollars, today
[1:37:01] it's closer to 40 million dollars.
[1:37:02] this is still nation leading for a
[1:37:05] transit system, most systems don't
[1:37:06] bring in and cover that much with
[1:37:08] fares but it's certainly not what it
[1:37:10] was before.
[1:37:11] and we get to that bigger number for a
[1:37:14] couple of different reasons.
[1:37:16] commute patterns have changed, people
[1:37:17] are not going into the office five
[1:37:20] days a week, we see a high water
[1:37:23] mark of three day as week.
[1:37:25] ridership is growing but not as much
[1:37:27] as it was before, costs have risen
[1:37:28] with inflation and we to have another
[1:37:32] 50 plus miles of new infrastructure we
[1:37:34] have in place that we have to
[1:37:36] maintain with our new electrified
[1:37:38] system that we didn't have before.
[1:37:41] again, this is what it looks like over
[1:37:43] time and we know we really need to
[1:37:45] manage this carefully.
[1:37:46] so what we're doing is looking
[1:37:48] internally first, what are we doing to
[1:37:50] be a well run organization that's
[1:37:53] looking everywhere for cost
[1:37:55] containment strategy, strategic
[1:37:57] hiring freezes, a comprehensive
[1:38:00] cost reduction efficiency program.
[1:38:02] we held our operating contractor to
[1:38:05] previous year levels which looks like
[1:38:07] a cut then.
[1:38:08] we have crew inefficiencies recouping
[1:38:10] costs from electricity, we're
[1:38:13] sending back 40% of our electricity
[1:38:14] to the grid and 20% of it is what
[1:38:17] goes there, we weren't getting paid
[1:38:19] for that until recently with help of
[1:38:22] some of our elected officials.
[1:38:24] we appreciate that support.
[1:38:25] we also have looked at the past mtc
[1:38:28] recently did a study showing over the
[1:38:30] past five years, caltrain saved
[1:38:33] roughly 70 million dollars on cost
[1:38:39] containment strategies, this month the
[1:38:40] federal government, the triannual
[1:38:41] review is an audit of our system, they
[1:38:42] found no findings, that means we're
[1:38:44] doing business to the best of our
[1:38:45] ability and being transparent and
[1:38:46] doing it well.
[1:38:49] but we need to look on the other side
[1:38:50] as well.
[1:38:51] how can we monetize all of the assets
[1:38:53] we have so we're making sure we're
[1:38:55] bringing in revenue from different
[1:38:57] sources, on this slide, it shows of a
[1:39:00] variety of the elements from the short
[1:39:03] term items of these special events,
[1:39:05] parking, advertising, to the onuses
[1:39:06] that are longer term of leasing out,
[1:39:09] fiber optic cable, these are
[1:39:12] things we need to look at in the long
[1:39:14] run to make sure we have strong
[1:39:16] financial future for caltrain.
[1:39:20] so as michelle said, we have
[1:39:21] been talking to our board for many,
[1:39:23] many months about this and what it
[1:39:25] looks like, in june, our board adopted
[1:39:27] a framework for what we need to look
[1:39:29] at and this is giving us two paths, if
[1:39:33] in november there is a successful
[1:39:35] outcome, we will be able to continue
[1:39:37] the level of service that we have been
[1:39:40] providing and the quality that we know
[1:39:42] that provides the region.
[1:39:45] if it does not and there isn't another
[1:39:50] external source of funding, we will
[1:39:52] have to prepare and look at what those
[1:39:53] cuts could look like and being
[1:39:55] transparent about what that could mean.
[1:39:57] so we've presented to the caltrain
[1:39:59] board these options, again, today, the
[1:40:02] service frequency we have but what we
[1:40:04] have been talking about is hourly
[1:40:05] service going back to that, no weekend
[1:40:09] service, early shutdowns, no special
[1:40:10] events and station closures.
[1:40:12] this is not something we do lightly
[1:40:14] because we know especially for rail
[1:40:18] systems, this doesn't help nus the
[1:40:19] long run, it will start the downward
[1:40:22] spiral when we have less riders and
[1:40:24] less revenue.
[1:40:32] and then the last slide here is that
[1:40:34] we are calling this an inflection
[1:40:37] point, we certainly are not taking
[1:40:38] this issue lightly and we're going
[1:40:40] around to the different cities and to
[1:40:42] the board of supervisors to make sure
[1:40:46] we're here to answer your questions,
[1:40:49] to know what we're thinking about and
[1:40:50] being prepared for what comes ahead.
[1:40:51] with that, we're happy to answer any
[1:40:52] questions you may have.
[1:40:55] >> thank you so much, supervisor
[1:40:56] mueller?
[1:40:57] >> I do have a question,
[1:41:01] the special event training for the
[1:41:03] giantess are very popular.
[1:41:05] they're also very full.
[1:41:07] and I've always wondered why it was
[1:41:09] threatened that you would be canceling
[1:41:11] trains that were full?
[1:41:13] why is that?
[1:41:14] >> yeah.
[1:41:15] I think that it's really with a gap as
[1:41:18] big as the one we're looking at, no
[1:41:21] one small piece is going to do it.
[1:41:23] you have to look at all of the
[1:41:26] different kind of levels of where
[1:41:28] we're going to have to pull the
[1:41:29] trigger for that.
[1:41:31] I think we will also have a more
[1:41:34] detailed analysis if we need to come
[1:41:36] back in january of what does the
[1:41:39] detail look behind these major kind of
[1:41:41] elements we're talking about.
[1:41:43] I don't know, michelle, if you want to
[1:41:45] add anything on to it.
[1:41:47] >> that logic doesn't really carry
[1:41:49] for me, the giants day trains which
[1:41:52] happen throughout the season are full
[1:41:54] trains, yet the public is being
[1:41:56] threatened with those special event
[1:41:58] trains being cancelled.
[1:41:59] I don't understand the logic if
[1:42:01] they're full and they're actually --
[1:42:03] some of the fullest trains caltrain
[1:42:06] has.
[1:42:07] >> they're also the most expensive
[1:42:08] type of trains to put out on the
[1:42:10] service because we're operating all of
[1:42:12] it at overtime.
[1:42:13] >> can you get closer to the mic.,
[1:42:14] please.
[1:42:16] >> we're operating all at overtime.
[1:42:18] >> why would you be operating at
[1:42:20] overtime if you were canceling trains
[1:42:22] that weren't full?
[1:42:23] >> because it wouldn't be part of the
[1:42:25] regular service.
[1:42:26] every train that we operate beyond
[1:42:28] what is planned for, so, if we have to
[1:42:31] go to hourly service, that is what we
[1:42:34] will be building out with the crews, so
[1:42:36] anything else that is added on top of
[1:42:39] that would be at overtime.
[1:42:40] >> why wouldn't you be scheduling --
[1:42:43] if you're canceling, if you're doing
[1:42:45] service reductions and you're getting
[1:42:47] rid of trains that presumably aren't
[1:42:49] full and paying for theses, why
[1:42:51] wouldn't you add into regular service
[1:42:52] the trains that you're calling special
[1:42:54] event now which are full and producing
[1:42:56] revenue?
[1:42:57] >> to be clear, when you talk about
[1:43:00] that logic, we won't be operating
[1:43:03] express trains either anymore because
[1:43:05] we are obligated to provide coverage --
[1:43:08] >> that's not answering my question.
[1:43:09] I wasn't talking about express trains.
[1:43:11] >> but those are also the most crowded
[1:43:15] trains, I wanted to draw a parallel,
[1:43:20] we have to basically strip the service
[1:43:22] down to the most efficient service
[1:43:27] possible.
[1:43:29] we don't make money on any of the
[1:43:30] service.
[1:43:31] >> I'm still lost, so you're saying
[1:43:32] that you would be canceling your
[1:43:34] most high demand trains?
[1:43:38] >> yes, because we have to provide the
[1:43:42] most efficient service.
[1:43:43] it's high demand, it's also the
[1:43:48] highest cost and the fares are higher
[1:43:53] than the ones we're getting on those
[1:43:54] trains.
[1:43:59] >> we can revisit this.
[1:44:00] >> we're happy to sit down with you
[1:44:02] and share the numbers.
[1:44:03] >> okay, thank you for spading to
[1:44:05] those questions.
[1:44:06] I have a couple myself as well.
[1:44:07] so, I have a few questions and I kind
[1:44:15] of want to speak in laymen's terms for
[1:44:18] folks that are new to transit.
[1:44:21] one of the examples that I like to
[1:44:23] share with folks especially that are
[1:44:25] not from the bay area that are like
[1:44:27] why is our transit in jeopardy, like,
[1:44:29] I don't get it, right.
[1:44:32] so, folks that come from other parts
[1:44:33] of the country or the world for
[1:44:37] example, it's very foreign to them
[1:44:40] that our public transit systems are
[1:44:46] fare-based, that they're funded by
[1:44:48] fares and that's why we find ourselves
[1:44:51] in these -- in this situation where we
[1:44:54] are at fiscal cliffs.
[1:44:57] that's like the most basic way I can
[1:44:59] explain it to people because in other
[1:45:01] areas where transit is very reliable
[1:45:05] and like much more frequent services,
[1:45:11] it's usually more like community
[1:45:13] funded or government funded, like, has
[1:45:16] different funding sources.
[1:45:17] do you feel like that's part of the
[1:45:21] core issue here?
[1:45:24] >> yeah, absolutely.
[1:45:26] the subsidies we get today compared to
[1:45:29] many other places are dramatically
[1:45:31] different.
[1:45:32] >> okay.
[1:45:33] and so because our systems are mostly
[1:45:37] fare-based and funded by fares, we
[1:45:41] face a reality that after the pandemic
[1:45:44] with so many people working from home,
[1:45:46] we have not been able to get back to
[1:45:52] pre-pandemic ridership, correct?
[1:45:53] >> correct.
[1:45:54] >> okay.
[1:45:55] >> yes.
[1:45:57] >> okay, so now basically all of the
[1:46:03] bay area transit operators are in
[1:46:09] these fiscally dire situations and
[1:46:13] even as you were saying, the most --
[1:46:20] the -- I forget what term you were
[1:46:22] saying, like the most -- yeah, the
[1:46:28] highest in demand trains which are the
[1:46:33] most expensive including express which
[1:46:34] kind of blows my mind would be --
[1:46:39] would no longer be available to people
[1:46:43] because they're just more expensive to
[1:46:45] operate.
[1:46:46] so, can you give me an example of like
[1:46:48] -- let's say an hourly that stops at
[1:46:51] every stop versus an express, what's
[1:46:52] the difference in the cost to operate
[1:46:54] those for example?
[1:46:58] >> yeah, so, when you cost it out, you
[1:47:00] have to cost it out as a complete
[1:47:03] system.
[1:47:04] so, the most expensive type of service
[1:47:05] to operate is in the peak period
[1:47:08] because you're operating a lot of
[1:47:09] trains all at once, so we're not
[1:47:11] able to use the crews as efficiently
[1:47:14] as if we're operating trains once an
[1:47:17] hour or respectively, so --
[1:47:25] repetitively.
[1:47:26] it's difficult to do that on a train
[1:47:28] by train passes because we have to take
[1:47:30] the entire system cost into account.
[1:47:32] but the fact is you're probably using
[1:47:35] the peak period crews to probably only
[1:47:38] operate two trains but you're still
[1:47:41] paying them 8 hours versus if you're
[1:47:43] operating a steady amount of trains
[1:47:45] throughout the day so no peaking, and
[1:47:48] that way believe it or not, the crews
[1:47:50] can be used more efficiently, you just
[1:47:53] can't provide the type of service that
[1:47:56] would be express or would be peaked
[1:47:58] service.
[1:47:59] >> okay, and then like for special
[1:48:02] events, like, I mean, that changes
[1:48:06] every season, right, and you don't
[1:48:10] really likely like -- what does that
[1:48:12] communication look like for the giants
[1:48:14] games or the warriors games, like how
[1:48:18] -- how much notice do you get on those
[1:48:20] schedules?
[1:48:21] >> sure, so we do it on a year by year
[1:48:23] basis.
[1:48:24] this year initially because we were
[1:48:26] operating the half hourly service, we
[1:48:29] didn't anticipate providing any
[1:48:31] additional service but then once we
[1:48:32] found that a lot more people were
[1:48:36] riding the train, then we added
[1:48:41] service, so we added service, I think
[1:48:42] it was at the beginning of the season
[1:48:43] this season but we were able to handle
[1:48:44] the loads without extra service last
[1:48:45] year because of the half hourly
[1:48:47] service, so it all depends.
[1:48:49] right now we find ourselves in
[1:48:50] positions where we are providing more
[1:48:53] rides to a all sorts of different
[1:48:55] types of events on the peninsula, so
[1:48:58] as an example, we have partnerships
[1:49:00] with the sharks and bay fc, for
[1:49:03] those games, we don't require extra
[1:49:05] trains because of the loads.
[1:49:07] >> okay, thank you.
[1:49:10] supervisor canepa, did you have
[1:49:11] questions?
[1:49:12] >> yes, I do.
[1:49:13] >> go ahead.
[1:49:14] >> michelle, thank you for the
[1:49:15] presentation.
[1:49:16] you know, I have seen -- I take
[1:49:18] highway 1 quite frequently, I take it
[1:49:20] a lot, I have seen traffic pick up
[1:49:23] quite a bit.
[1:49:24] can you speak to -- I think a lot of
[1:49:28] -- my work has been sort of focused in
[1:49:30] this area, I sat on mtc, caltrain and
[1:49:33] samtrans, so we understand it's not
[1:49:35] just a caltrain issue, when you look
[1:49:37] at the merits of the problem, it's a
[1:49:40] ridership issue, there are a lot of
[1:49:43] things, it's not just here in san
[1:49:45] mateo county, we're talking
[1:49:47] about muni.
[1:49:48] I think you may want to correct me,
[1:49:51] the estimated cost in terms of transit
[1:49:53] and not having the dollars they need
[1:49:58] is beyond 350 million dollars.
[1:50:01] so, my question to you is we know that
[1:50:04] in the bay area, 90% of people,
[1:50:10] they're not taking public transit,
[1:50:14] they're driving to work, some are, I'm
[1:50:16] not saying not everyone, the majority
[1:50:21] of the drivers, they drive their
[1:50:25] vehicles, I lie more on a practical
[1:50:27] level, what I'm concerned about, and
[1:50:29] maybe it's in my self-interest,
[1:50:31] sometimes you speak from that point of
[1:50:33] view is if we don't have caltrain
[1:50:38] operating especially in santa clara,
[1:50:41] san francisco, in san mateo counties,
[1:50:43] all of those people have to go
[1:50:47] somewhere and that somewhere is our
[1:50:51] freeways, so what we take for granted
[1:50:54] now and then maybe you could talk
[1:50:57] about what ridership is, that's a real
[1:50:59] concern for me.
[1:51:01] the other is based from a business
[1:51:04] perspective, right, so we look at
[1:51:06] employers, right, a lot of our
[1:51:08] employers in san mateo county,
[1:51:12] genentech, you know, you look at meta,
[1:51:16] west of 101, there are a lot of people
[1:51:18] who rely on this service as well, so,
[1:51:21] to me, when I look at your structural
[1:51:24] deficit, while I have a tremendous
[1:51:28] amount of empathy on serving on
[1:51:30] caltrain, I worry about our highways,
[1:51:36] especially 101, being flooded with
[1:51:38] cars.
[1:51:39] can you speak to that, have
[1:51:46] you dod modeling, have you looked into
[1:51:48] the impact of if caltrain were to spot
[1:51:50] and you were having a hard time
[1:51:53] answering supervisor mueller's
[1:51:54] question, let me answer it for you a
[1:51:56] little bit.
[1:51:57] one of the issues I think and we've
[1:51:59] talked about this and maybe you can
[1:52:00] sort of add a little bit of
[1:52:04] flavor to what he asked, we talked
[1:52:06] about the frequency, the ability to
[1:52:09] get trains going at a rhythm, a sort
[1:52:11] of mode.
[1:52:13] if it comes to express and if it comes
[1:52:16] to these giants games, that's not even
[1:52:19] on the table because if we do not
[1:52:23] receive the dollars for transit, you
[1:52:25] won't -- you're not going to have
[1:52:28] transit, you're going to have to shut
[1:52:29] down stations and my issue, supervisor
[1:52:34] mueller, with staff is we've been
[1:52:37] painting this picture and they're
[1:52:39] working towards that, everything is
[1:52:41] great.
[1:52:42] no, not everything -- everything is
[1:52:43] not great.
[1:52:45] if this doesn't work out, caltrain and
[1:52:48] I know staff has gone through
[1:52:51] different models, very responsible,
[1:52:53] caltrain could potentially close.
[1:52:58] as a board member, I firmly -- I know
[1:52:59] it's hard to believe, but I firmly
[1:53:01] believe it can happen.
[1:53:03] you will have service that will even
[1:53:05] if you take the service right now,
[1:53:09] michelle, and we dwindle it all the
[1:53:12] way down, it's a problem -- you don't
[1:53:14] have the revenue, you don't have the
[1:53:17] ridership and to me, that's a problem.
[1:53:21] I wasn't trying to be hard on you,
[1:53:24] michelle.
[1:53:25] I know you've taken this position of
[1:53:26] being balanced and providing
[1:53:29] alternatives as a responsible ceo, but
[1:53:32] the general public, they have no idea
[1:53:34] what's going to happen until we don't
[1:53:37] have that 75 million dollars and that
[1:53:40] 75 million dollars is 75 million
[1:53:44] dollars over 10 years which is 750
[1:53:47] million dollars and I know people,
[1:53:49] they love -- I love caltrain, it's my
[1:53:52] favorite transit system, don't tell
[1:53:54] april chan, I'll get in trouble, but
[1:53:56] I love the clean trains, I love
[1:53:58] how fast they move throughout the
[1:54:00] system.
[1:54:01] it would be a shame if it's not
[1:54:05] funded.
[1:54:06] so, I appreciate that and I'll give it
[1:54:08] back to the chair.
[1:54:09] >> thank you, supervisor mueller?
[1:54:11] >> yes, so I'm going to be very care
[1:54:18] ful not to talk about what's happening
[1:54:19] in november because I don't think
[1:54:20] that's appropriate in this setting or
[1:54:21] the money that might come from it, may
[1:54:24] or may not.
[1:54:25] but what I do want to say to you all
[1:54:27] is I think that as I look at this and
[1:54:30] the question that I think caltrain has
[1:54:32] to grapple with in these presentations
[1:54:34] they're giving and what they're
[1:54:36] messaging to the public is that there
[1:54:37] is no recognition that instead of
[1:54:41] canceling peak time service when the
[1:54:43] freeways would be full, if it wasn't
[1:54:45] there, or the giants service which is
[1:54:48] full, whether or not caltrain if it
[1:54:51] put this, this option would move to
[1:54:55] an hourly service instead of abon
[1:55:01] demand service and reallocated staff
[1:55:04] when there weren't people riding the
[1:55:07] train that much to the peak hours and
[1:55:09] when the people ride to the giants
[1:55:12] game, that is the fundamental thing
[1:55:14] that most taxpayers when they looked
[1:55:16] at what was being presented them at
[1:55:18] this time thinks that seems hollow.
[1:55:21] why isn't caltrain talking about
[1:55:23] reduction of service during non-peak
[1:55:24] hours and that's something that hasn't
[1:55:28] been addressed and I think has to be
[1:55:32] grappled with.
[1:55:34] >> supervisor, we'll be happy to
[1:55:36] include messaging with respect to that
[1:55:38] because obviously it's not clear.
[1:55:41] a train does not cost the same as it
[1:55:43] does in the off peak as it does in the
[1:55:47] peak period and there's no period
[1:55:50] during the day that we cover 100% of
[1:55:53] our costs.
[1:55:55] even with enhanced ridership, so I
[1:55:57] can't take an off peak train, push it
[1:55:59] into the peak period to provide more
[1:56:03] capacity there because it will cost
[1:56:06] much more than it's costing if I'm
[1:56:10] operating it during the day.
[1:56:11] >> but that's not what I'm asking you
[1:56:14] to do.
[1:56:16] I'm asking you to consider is
[1:56:17] canceling the off peak train and
[1:56:19] taking the staff hours that you say
[1:56:21] are so expensive and reallocating them
[1:56:23] to the peak period so you can keep the
[1:56:26] peak period going.
[1:56:28] I'm not asking you to add trains to
[1:56:30] peak, I'm asking you to reallocate
[1:56:32] staff time because you say it's so
[1:56:34] expensive to run the peak cars because
[1:56:37] of staff time so, there must be some
[1:56:40] cost savings by canceling non-peak
[1:56:42] empty trains and that's not being
[1:56:45] accounted for in the discussion with
[1:56:46] the public.
[1:56:51] >> supervisor, I'll take your comment
[1:56:53] as feedback.
[1:56:54] >> thank you.
[1:56:56] >> so, can I just ask a question here.
[1:57:00] supervisor mueller and supervisor
[1:57:01] canepa are on the caltrain
[1:57:06] board.
[1:57:07] supervisor speier?
[1:57:08] >> so, only supervisor
[1:57:10] canepa is on the caltrain board, do we
[1:57:13] normally have one?
[1:57:15] we've always only had one?
[1:57:16] interesting, okay.
[1:57:21] okay, just was wondering.
[1:57:23] supervisor speier, did you want the
[1:57:24] make a comment?
[1:57:25] >> yes, first of all, thank you for
[1:57:27] the presentation.
[1:57:29] I think you know my great love of
[1:57:32] caltrain, the money we go for the baby
[1:57:35] bullet, the money we got for
[1:57:38] electrification, I'm a big fan.
[1:57:40] I am not a big fan of the warfare
[1:57:44] going on between caltrain and
[1:57:50] samtrans, we spend so much time trying
[1:57:55] to deal with a reality that exists
[1:57:58] that samtrans has the right to manage
[1:58:03] the two agencies as long as it wants
[1:58:06] based on an mou but there is constant
[1:58:10] efforts to undermine that and I know
[1:58:12] you're in a rock and a hard place
[1:58:15] because you have a
[1:58:19] jpb that is trying to rest the power
[1:58:22] from samtrans but at some point,
[1:58:25] we're all public employees, we all
[1:58:27] have to work together and I think it
[1:58:31] undermines your efforts to want to get
[1:58:34] more financing when there's all this
[1:58:36] quibbling going on constantly and I
[1:58:39] find that half the time I feel I'm on
[1:58:42] the caltrain board only because the
[1:58:44] issues that samtrans is dealing with
[1:58:51] are all about governance so I'm
[1:58:53] happening that as part of all of this,
[1:58:54] we're going to find a way for everyone
[1:58:56] to work together.
[1:58:59] and for the representatives from santa
[1:59:02] clara and san francisco that feel they
[1:59:04] want to be in charge when it was
[1:59:07] samtrans that purchased the right of
[1:59:09] way, samtrans that has kept
[1:59:12] it alive, I think we should make that
[1:59:16] very clear and while your job is to
[1:59:21] make everyone happy on the caltrain
[1:59:24] board, part of it is getting some
[1:59:28] adult representation that is going to
[1:59:30] stop the power grab that goes on that
[1:59:33] is not productive.
[1:59:37] >> I'm going to jump in here and just
[1:59:41] say that as one of our county's
[1:59:47] representatives on the county
[1:59:51] transportation authority, I'm a little
[1:59:53] confused about some of what is being
[1:59:56] discussed here and I think maybe we
[2:00:01] should at the county transportation
[2:00:04] authority which does have a purview
[2:00:07] over -- and provides funding to all of
[2:00:12] the transportation operators in our
[2:00:13] county have a discussion there about
[2:00:15] all of the things that are being
[2:00:18] discussed here and try to kind of
[2:00:22] level set.
[2:00:23] I don't know that we should continue
[2:00:24] to do that here and now but I do
[2:00:29] appreciate that we have brought
[2:00:30] information here to the public on what
[2:00:36] caltrain is facing, some of the future
[2:00:41] decision points, also some of the
[2:00:43] amazing improvements to the caltrain
[2:00:46] system and I had no idea for example
[2:00:48] that there are now like private trains
[2:00:51] that people can take to -- not private
[2:00:55] trains, private cars, did I get that
[2:00:59] wrong, private cars that people can
[2:01:00] can take to the giants game?
[2:01:01] >> no, but as part of our -- as
[2:01:04] looking into other funding sources,
[2:01:05] you could buy a charter train and rent
[2:01:07] it for that, but we today provide
[2:01:11] service to many different things, yeah.
[2:01:13] >> okay, yeah.
[2:01:14] okay, so why don't we wrap this up, go
[2:01:18] ahead, supervisor canepa?
[2:01:19] >> first of all, let me just thank
[2:01:21] you, michelle and casey.
[2:01:22] I want so say this, I have four months
[2:01:25] left but it's been an honor and a
[2:01:27] privilege to serve on the caltrain
[2:01:30] board.
[2:01:31] yeah, we represent different counties
[2:01:33] but I think through our body of work
[2:01:34] and through your leadership, michelle
[2:01:37] and casey, we've shown how to get
[2:01:39] things done on a regional level,
[2:01:43] whether it's diridon, whether it's
[2:01:45] what's going on, on 4th street in san
[2:01:48] francisco, whether it's looking at
[2:01:51] various fare strategies, we have a
[2:01:53] very hardworking staff.
[2:01:54] we've done a lot, but as you know, my
[2:01:59] experience, 18 years through various
[2:02:00] boards, this board will soon feel it
[2:02:03] and I'll soon feel it in my position.
[2:02:06] when resources aren't there, that's
[2:02:08] when it gets extraordinarily
[2:02:12] challenging and so when you talk about
[2:02:15] 75 million dollars and you talk about
[2:02:17] what the operating budget is, then you
[2:02:21] talk about capital, you can try to
[2:02:24] reduce service as much as you can, you
[2:02:26] could try to identify efficiencies.
[2:02:28] I have seen so many slides at
[2:02:32] caltrain about this.
[2:02:34] it's 75 million dollars, you can't --
[2:02:39] you just can't do it, you need the
[2:02:42] revenue.
[2:02:43] and if you do cut services, spiral is
[2:02:45] clearly this, when service is cut,
[2:02:46] what happens?
[2:02:47] you're not going to have the trains,
[2:02:49] you're not going to have the people to
[2:02:53] service.
[2:02:54] there what happens is the fares are
[2:02:55] then reduced so you compound a problem
[2:02:57] by not having it, by having other
[2:03:01] issues because you don't have
[2:03:04] ridership.
[2:03:05] and so I'm proud of what we've done,
[2:03:07] yeah, the issues on governance, of
[2:03:10] course, we've had some conversations,
[2:03:13] michelle, right, about it.
[2:03:14] we've talked about it but I think what
[2:03:18] we've done is we've talked about it in
[2:03:21] a respectful way with our colleagues
[2:03:23] to figure things out and things are
[2:03:26] tracking and make no mistake about it.
[2:03:29] where caltrain resides is where
[2:03:32] samtrans resides, where shared service
[2:03:34] resides in saf and the provision and
[2:03:36] division of staff members, they sit in
[2:03:39] a beautiful building has was just
[2:03:42] built or just occupied by caltrain a
[2:03:45] couple of months ago, so I'm proud of
[2:03:47] what we've done at samtrans, I'm proud
[2:03:50] of what we're doing on caltrain and
[2:03:52] this is not easy what you're embarking
[2:03:56] on.
[2:03:57] I'm glad you started with us first and
[2:03:58] then move on to other cities but we do
[2:04:00] have a problem and it does need to be
[2:04:02] solved, so thank you, madam chair.
[2:04:04] >> okay, thank you.
[2:04:05] I believe this was a presentation
[2:04:06] only, so we do need to take public
[2:04:08] comment but no action is required.
[2:04:11] thank you for the presentation.
[2:04:13] we'll begin public comment now.
[2:04:15] >> alright, I to not have speaker
[2:04:17] cards for chambers.
[2:04:18] we'll be going to zoom for item number
[2:04:20] 5, if you would like to speak, raise
[2:04:22] your hand at this time.
[2:04:25] we have call in user, if you can
[2:04:27] identify yourself and please unmute to
[2:04:32] begin.
[2:04:34] >> hello, my name is gord and I hate
[2:04:43] --
[2:04:44] >> okay, we're going to go to the next
[2:04:46] speaker.
[2:04:47] >> that concludes public comment.
[2:05:01] >> okay, moving on to the next item.
[2:05:08] item number -- give me one second.
[2:05:12] that's what I get for looking ahead on
[2:05:15] the agenda.
[2:05:20] >> item 8.
[2:05:21] >> item 8, okay.
[2:05:25] so, yes, item number 6 and 7 are set
[2:05:29] for a specified time, so we'll be
[2:05:31] moving on to item number 8 which I'll
[2:05:35] be handing over to lee pullen to speak
[2:05:39] on in-home support services, so please
[2:05:40] go ahead.
[2:05:41] >> thank you, good morning, president
[2:05:43] corzo, members of the board and mr.
[2:05:46] callagy, nibbelin and mates, aging and
[2:05:49] disability services division of county
[2:05:51] health, before we begin our very short
[2:05:54] presentation here, congratulations on
[2:05:58] women's equality day, beautiful and
[2:06:00] moving.
[2:06:01] we are here on just a procedural
[2:06:03] matter that's required by calpers
[2:06:06] which provides retirement benefits for
[2:06:09] ihss public authority staff and nicole
[2:06:13] mckay who's our former employee --
[2:06:16] labor and employer manager with human
[2:06:17] resources has been helping us with
[2:06:19] some of these negotiations, so just a
[2:06:21] little bit of context for members the
[2:06:25] public.
[2:06:26] in-home support services, ihss, is a
[2:06:28] medi-cal program that provides in-home
[2:06:31] care support for people of any age who
[2:06:34] are experiencing disabilities or
[2:06:35] functional limitations and need the
[2:06:37] help at home so they can avoid
[2:06:41] institutional care.
[2:06:42] the there is an adjunct
[2:06:48] agency, public authority, the public
[2:06:49] authority serves to support ihss
[2:06:52] clients and care providers by
[2:06:53] maintaining a registry for folks who
[2:06:55] may need to find a care provider
[2:07:00] to administer health care benefits
[2:07:01] to our care providers and to act as
[2:07:02] the employer of record when we get to
[2:07:05] the negotiation period for wages.
[2:07:07] again, this is a procedural matter
[2:07:10] that calpers is requiring for us to
[2:07:11] present to you rather than it be on
[2:07:14] consent if you're wondering why and
[2:07:15] I'm going to turn it over the nicole
[2:07:17] who's been doing all the lifting on
[2:07:21] this.
[2:07:22] >> thank you, good morning.
[2:07:23] >> welcome.
[2:07:28] >> as lee said, we're asking you to
[2:07:30] give consideration to an additional
[2:07:33] procedural requirement and this is
[2:07:34] required by calpers who provides the
[2:07:37] retirement benefits to our 19 public
[2:07:39] authority employees.
[2:07:41] no benefits change by this action.
[2:07:43] if it seems familiar, it is.
[2:07:46] we were here before you in january
[2:07:50] with basically the exact same
[2:07:53] presentation.
[2:07:54] at that time, the it was because
[2:07:55] calpers required us to have you adopt
[2:07:58] the that you intended to make this
[2:08:01] change.
[2:08:02] at this point we're asking that you
[2:08:05] sign is paperwork to actually
[2:08:10] make the change.
[2:08:11] this only changes who provides the
[2:08:13] monetary benefits should there be a
[2:08:16] pre-retirement death.
[2:08:18] previously this group had those
[2:08:23] provided through calpers in 2021, this
[2:08:25] group moved over to social security
[2:08:30] and this pre-retirement benefit now
[2:08:32] moves to that side.
[2:08:35] so, should there be did -- this has
[2:08:37] nothing to do with their actual
[2:08:40] retirement benefits, this is only that
[2:08:44] pre-retirement death benefit.
[2:08:46] once they moved into social security,
[2:08:49] calpers began this process.
[2:08:53] we are now five years later, hopefully
[2:08:56] at this point with your approval
[2:08:58] finishing this process.
[2:09:00] at this point I'll take any questions.
[2:09:05] >> thank you so much.
[2:09:07] any questions from the board?
[2:09:10] okay.
[2:09:11] hearing no questions, I'll just say
[2:09:12] thank you so much for bringing this
[2:09:14] back to us.
[2:09:15] we know this is an important program
[2:09:19] and folks receiving these services and
[2:09:21] the support from your department
[2:09:26] definitely need it, so I appreciate
[2:09:27] this coming before us.
[2:09:30] we will move on to public comment.
[2:09:32] >> taking public comment on item
[2:09:35] number 8, I do not have speaker cards
[2:09:37] from chambers.
[2:09:38] if you would like to speak on zoom,
[2:09:39] raise your hand at this time.
[2:09:43] seeing no hands, no public comment.
[2:09:48] >> is there a motion to approve this
[2:09:49] item?
[2:09:50] >> thank you, roll call vote, please.
[2:09:52] >> supervisor speier?
[2:09:53] >> aye.
[2:09:55] >> supervisor mueller?
[2:09:56] >> yes.
[2:09:57] >> supervisor gauthier?
[2:09:58] >> yes.
[2:09:59] >> supervisor canepa?
[2:10:00] >> aye.
[2:10:01] >> president corzo?
[2:10:02] >> yes.
[2:10:03] >> motion passes unanimously.
[2:10:04] >> okay, thank you.
[2:10:06] we will now --
[2:10:07] >> thank you.
[2:10:08] >> we will move on to item number 9
[2:10:11] which is a resolution to authorize
[2:10:14] county funding and agreements for
[2:10:16] horizon recovery services, proposed
[2:10:18] recovery center in burlingame, we will
[2:10:20] also be taking item number 17, there
[2:10:23] is a presentation by county executive
[2:10:26] callagy and then we will be welcoming
[2:10:31] both dr. Jei africa and alicio from
[2:10:35] horizon.
[2:10:36] >> thank you, president corzo and
[2:10:37] members of the board.
[2:10:39] I'll make this very quick and just go
[2:10:41] through the background very quickly
[2:10:43] also as you'll all remember, the site
[2:10:46] of bay shore and mahler was the former
[2:10:51] station run by samaritan house, we had
[2:10:55] potential acquisition discussions
[2:10:57] april 7, 2026 followed by the board
[2:11:02] approval, the county purchased a
[2:11:03] building on june 12, 2026 and then a
[2:11:05] framework has been developed for
[2:11:08] transfer approved by the board of
[2:11:10] supervisors on july 2.
[2:11:12] so, there's two issues here, the first
[2:11:14] one and I'll have dr. Africa elaborate
[2:11:17] on that if you desire is the
[2:11:23] matching funds of the county of the
[2:11:25] 10%, when horizon recently went to the
[2:11:28] department of health care services for
[2:11:31] this grant, they were going for 20
[2:11:33] million dollars and the match would
[2:11:35] have been 2 million dollars of the
[2:11:38] opiate settlement which was approved
[2:11:39] by the board.
[2:11:40] they ended up receiving 25 million, so
[2:11:44] the grant we're asking for that to be
[2:11:46] approved for another 500 thousand
[2:11:47] dollars for that machining 10% of 2.5
[2:11:51] million and again that would come out
[2:11:53] of the opioid settlement fund.
[2:11:56] in regards to 17, the outline of the
[2:12:03] transaction, county would enter into a
[2:12:07] ground lease with horizon to grant
[2:12:09] immediate site control to horizon
[2:12:12] for the portion of the mahler property
[2:12:15] they would retain two building on the
[2:12:17] parking area on the site for it
[2:12:20] programs yet to be determined and
[2:12:22] the lease would continue with the
[2:12:23] county as we pursue the legal
[2:12:25] subdivision of the land, ideally we
[2:12:27] would complete that by 2027 and in that
[2:12:31] way with this ground lease, horizon
[2:12:34] could immediately commence
[2:12:35] construction of a suitable new
[2:12:37] facility on their portion during the
[2:12:39] lease term, still be working out the
[2:12:42] lease amount but whatever it was, it
[2:12:44] would be applied to the purchase price
[2:12:49] of 2.74 million for that portion of
[2:12:51] the land.
[2:12:52] the property would be restricted for
[2:12:56] use as a rehabilitation facility for
[2:12:59] up to 30 years and the reason we're
[2:13:02] here before you today is because
[2:13:04] horizon must demonstrate site control
[2:13:05] to state of california for that
[2:13:08] facility to be deemed feasible and for the
[2:13:11] grant dollars to transfer to the
[2:13:16] mahler site and certainly what we're
[2:13:18] asking is for an intention to
[2:13:19] demonstrate the board of supervisor's
[2:13:21] approval of the horizon site control
[2:13:24] and then the 10% match for the bishop
[2:13:29] grant, a couple of areas we're
[2:13:32] working through with horizon still is
[2:13:34] -- I didn't have time to finish this
[2:13:37] and present it to the board is the
[2:13:39] easement on the property the exact
[2:13:44] lease terms, indemnification clauses,
[2:13:47] insurance issues and transfer taxes
[2:13:49] and we'll be working in the near
[2:13:51] future to do that, that's why I'm
[2:13:54] asking by resolution to approve the
[2:13:56] ground lease in form of a purchase and
[2:13:58] sale agreement and delegate to me the
[2:14:01] authority to modify and amend both
[2:14:03] transaction documents as necessary and
[2:14:04] effectuate the intent of the
[2:14:06] transaction and to increase that
[2:14:11] contribution to horizon by the 500
[2:14:16] thousand to fully comport with the 10%
[2:14:19] match of 25 million dollars by
[2:14:22] contributing 2.5 million.
[2:14:23] happy to answer any questions, dr.
[2:14:25] africa is here and certainly horizon
[2:14:27] is here to answer any questions you
[2:14:29] may have.
[2:14:32] >> okay, any questions from the board?
[2:14:38] dr. Jei africa, would you like to say
[2:14:42] anything, alicio is also here from
[2:14:45] horizon.
[2:14:46] >> this is an important opportunity
[2:14:47] for us because we know there is a
[2:14:49] critical need for these kinds of
[2:14:50] programs in our community and so it
[2:14:53] was the first issue of the new amount
[2:14:57] is more of a timing issues, when we
[2:15:01] applied, horizon was costing it out
[2:15:02] and we didn't have the full amount.
[2:15:04] in the final award which came months
[2:15:07] after we submitted the application was
[2:15:08] 25 million, so basically it's the
[2:15:11] adjustment.
[2:15:12] the last portion is designating
[2:15:14] -- allow our chief and her designee
[2:15:16] to do all the negotiations as part of
[2:15:18] this process.
[2:15:19] so, thank you.
[2:15:20] >> okay.
[2:15:21] thank you.
[2:15:24] >> hello, my name is alici ork, I
[2:15:30] serve as the chief of operations.
[2:15:32] I wanted to thank the board of
[2:15:34] supervisors for their collaboration and
[2:15:35] partnership to see this project
[2:15:36] through for the needed services for
[2:15:38] your community.
[2:15:40] also with working with the executive
[2:15:42] leadership has been an honor to work
[2:15:45] in a process has in good faith and has
[2:15:49] been nothing but gracious for the work
[2:15:51] that has been put into our project.
[2:15:53] I also wanted to thank the behavioral
[2:15:56] health department for san mateo county
[2:15:59] and the collaboration to see this
[2:16:01] project come to light.
[2:16:02] we did receive from the department of
[2:16:04] health care services preliminary
[2:16:07] designation to be able to relocate
[2:16:09] into burlingame.
[2:16:10] this is exciting news, we're excited
[2:16:11] to be able to see this project move
[2:16:14] forward and we'll be able to answer
[2:16:16] any questions you might have regarding
[2:16:18] the two items.
[2:16:19] >> thank you so much.
[2:16:20] with that, hearing no questions from
[2:16:27] my colleagues, why don't we go ahead
[2:16:28] and move on to public comment.
[2:16:29] >> alright, I'll be taking public
[2:16:31] comment on item 9 and 17, I do not
[2:16:33] have speaker cards from chambers,
[2:16:35] we'll be going to zoom, raise your
[2:16:36] hand at this time.
[2:16:37] final call for item 9 and 17, I have
[2:16:43] natallia, please unmute and begin.
[2:16:47] >> good morning, supervisors, I am
[2:16:49] asking you today to immediately
[2:16:52] withdraw our county's endorsement and
[2:16:54] marcher grant to horizon recovery
[2:16:58] services.
[2:16:59] they operate a facility in san
[2:17:00] mateo and that facility has an
[2:17:04] egregious operating history.
[2:17:05] since opening in 2019, this
[2:17:07] facility has been suspended two times
[2:17:10] for severe violations of the health
[2:17:12] care code and the explicit
[2:17:13] falsification records.
[2:17:15] horizon has repeatedly jeopardized the
[2:17:18] lives and health of our most
[2:17:20] vulnerable residents and the county
[2:17:22] has repeatedly lost services for an
[2:17:23] extended period of time due to lengthy
[2:17:28] suspicions and licensed revocation
[2:17:30] proceedings.
[2:17:31] allowing this organization to receiver
[2:17:34] county back violates san mateo's
[2:17:37] policies of ethical procurement.
[2:17:41] horizon should be disqualified from
[2:17:44] receiving public contracts.
[2:17:45] please contact the grant agency and
[2:17:48] formally notify that the information
[2:17:51] provided by supervisor corzo, jei
[2:17:56] africa regarding horizon's reliability
[2:17:58] was misleading.
[2:17:59] by continuing to back horizon fully
[2:18:04] aware of the status, this board is
[2:18:07] exposing our county to severe legal
[2:18:09] liability which we cannot afford in
[2:18:11] this time of budget deficit.
[2:18:14] protect our residents, safeguard our
[2:18:16] taxpayers and shield our county from
[2:18:18] liability.
[2:18:19] I ask that you rescind the
[2:18:21] endorsement, cancel the grant,
[2:18:23] petition the state to take care of
[2:18:27] bhrs infrastructure grant and deny any
[2:18:30] future contracts to horizon recovery
[2:18:32] services, thank you.
[2:18:33] >> thank you, that concludes public
[2:18:35] comment.
[2:18:36] >> okay, bringing it back to our
[2:18:37] board for a motion.
[2:18:46] >> I move approval of this item.
[2:18:48] >> thank you, is there a second?
[2:18:53] >> okay, second by supervisor speier.
[2:18:55] >> I want to clarify that's both the
[2:18:57] items, thank you.
[2:18:59] >> I have one question.
[2:19:01] we have addressed the concerns of
[2:19:04] natallia as well, her concerns have
[2:19:06] been addressed and we're not
[2:19:08] overlooking anything.
[2:19:09] >> I would defer to dr. Africa with
[2:19:11] respect to that.
[2:19:12] >> yes, just a reminder that the state
[2:19:16] provides the licensing, so anything
[2:19:17] that -- any provider that we work with
[2:19:20] has to be licensed by the state and
[2:19:24] the state certifies them so, we have
[2:19:26] worked closely with horizon and
[2:19:27] continue to work with them in ensuring
[2:19:30] that none of the previous things have
[2:19:33] happened and we have a staff that
[2:19:36] monitors and audits all the things
[2:19:38] that are concerning to us on a regular
[2:19:43] basis.
[2:19:45] >> supervisor mueller?
[2:19:46] >> is it accurate they're on
[2:19:49] probationary status presently?
[2:19:50] >> right now they are because -- how
[2:19:54] long are they on probationary we don't
[2:20:00] know, so when they issue -- after a
[2:20:04] disciplinary action, they go visit the
[2:20:07] site in san mateo, they did announced
[2:20:10] visit and all the things that they
[2:20:14] were looking at, they sort of passed
[2:20:18] with great colors, but they still need
[2:20:21] to be on probation because I think
[2:20:23] there's a length of time they have to
[2:20:25] remain in that state.
[2:20:27] so but they did visit this year.
[2:20:32] >> I also served as the chief
[2:20:35] compliance officer for two years with
[2:20:37] the organization, so we have one year
[2:20:38] left on the probationary period.
[2:20:42] like major health care institutions
[2:20:44] like hospitals, these situations do
[2:20:46] happen, the state provides additional
[2:20:48] watchful mon oring, we've been meeting
[2:20:51] all those standards when they come to
[2:20:56] visit with zero deficiency.
[2:20:57] we make sure we assume responsibility
[2:21:02] and provide the standard of care for
[2:21:04] our clients.
[2:21:05] >> alright.
[2:21:06] what I want to know and it's a
[2:21:07] question for county counsel, so what
[2:21:10] happens worst case scenario you do --
[2:21:14] you fail to fail forward and you have
[2:21:17] another deficiency during your
[2:21:19] probationary standard and the license
[2:21:21] is revoked?
[2:21:24] >> we would be able to address that
[2:21:26] depending on what the deficiency is, I
[2:21:28] can't speak exactly what would come
[2:21:30] about but we are very watchful in
[2:21:33] monitoring those item they're
[2:21:35] specifically looking for to audit
[2:21:37] ourselves, audit consistently on a
[2:21:38] weekly basis.
[2:21:40] our executive team is performing
[2:21:42] current audits, we have our director
[2:21:44] of operations during spot check
[2:21:46] audits, we have an associate director
[2:21:48] of compliance overseeing the
[2:21:49] compliance manager that works at that
[2:21:51] facility so it's constantly being
[2:21:53] monitored.
[2:21:54] we host a tuesday call with executive
[2:21:55] leadership that I take part in to
[2:21:59] monitor those audits and make sure
[2:22:02] we're honoring the requirement from
[2:22:03] the state.
[2:22:05] we would be continuing on with
[2:22:07] building out the project depending on
[2:22:09] the state.
[2:22:10] >> supervisor mueller, it's a good
[2:22:13] question and one we've
[2:22:18] contemplated also.
[2:22:19] the fact that the state has awarded
[2:22:20] horizon a 25 million dollar contract,
[2:22:25] with the changes they've made, the
[2:22:27] site is restricted for 30 years so if
[2:22:31] they failed at some point in time, or
[2:22:33] the state disallowed them to continue
[2:22:35] or they for some reason went out of
[2:22:37] business, it would still have -- that
[2:22:39] site would still have to be used for
[2:22:44] rehabilitation purposes and we would
[2:22:45] then go look for another provider.
[2:22:46] >> alright.
[2:22:49] so, but there's no -- we're not left
[2:22:53] in a position where there's any
[2:22:56] enrichment to the provider.
[2:22:58] >> I don't believe that would be the
[2:22:59] case.
[2:23:00] they would be in violation of the
[2:23:01] terms of the grant for operating the
[2:23:04] site and as county executive was
[2:23:06] indicating, we would have remedies to
[2:23:10] exercise.
[2:23:11] >> so, I just want to jump in here
[2:23:13] real quick and say that, you know, I
[2:23:22] would challenge -- and I don't know,
[2:23:26] dr. Jei, if you can speak to the norm
[2:23:32] for this kind of licensing, this kind
[2:23:39] of treatment and how often -- like
[2:23:44] what's the norm for when issues arise
[2:23:47] in this kind of treatment facility?
[2:23:50] >> president corzo, I really respect
[2:23:55] your line of questioning but you
[2:23:57] jumped into my line of questioning.
[2:23:59] >> you can pause for one
[2:24:01] second, okay, I'm the chair of this
[2:24:06] meeting now, when you're chair, you
[2:24:07] can do it your way.
[2:24:08] >> the chair exercises the right to
[2:24:09] interpret another supervisor?
[2:24:10] >> I'm going to finish my thought,
[2:24:11] okay, thank you.
[2:24:13] so, would you mind answering that
[2:24:15] question real quick, please.
[2:24:16] >> I'm not sort of familiar but these
[2:24:18] are really difficult services
[2:24:22] obviously, people are in need, so I
[2:24:24] don't know the data, but do you know
[2:24:27] any sort of data, how often these
[2:24:29] things happen?
[2:24:30] but again the state has a rigorous
[2:24:33] compliance plan so, the mere fact they
[2:24:36] awarded horizon meant that they had
[2:24:39] faith that this organization can
[2:24:41] provide the services.
[2:24:42] it doesn't count the fact there were
[2:24:44] some issues as few years ago and from
[2:24:46] what we have seen that they have
[2:24:48] addressed it, the state came
[2:24:50] unannounced a few months ago and
[2:24:52] chased no issues, so they still will
[2:24:54] need to be on probation for a while
[2:24:56] until that other year but that is a
[2:24:58] normal practice that when your license
[2:25:01] is suspended, you have time to recover
[2:25:02] and address the issue and there's
[2:25:05] usually some time length to do that,
[2:25:06] they came to visit, my hope is they
[2:25:09] probably will come again until that
[2:25:11] next year, if they've proven they've
[2:25:14] addressed the issue, it will go
[2:25:16] forward.
[2:25:17] >> and just to kind of like take your
[2:25:19] point home a little bit more, horizon
[2:25:25] delivers a lot of programming
[2:25:26] in the entire bay area and this one
[2:25:28] site had some issues but in the grand
[2:25:30] scope of all of their programs and
[2:25:33] services, the state still finds them
[2:25:34] to be a really high quality service
[2:25:37] provider, gave them a 25 million
[2:25:40] dollar grant to run this program in
[2:25:43] our county and they are on track to
[2:25:45] get off of probation and continue to
[2:25:49] provide high quality services.
[2:25:50] supervisor mueller?
[2:25:52] >> so, first I want to say it's
[2:25:56] unfortunate that the president felt
[2:25:58] the need to interject --
[2:25:59] >> can you please just continue your
[2:26:00] questions, let's just move on, okay.
[2:26:02] >> no, I'm not going to.
[2:26:03] as a point of order --
[2:26:04] >> let's have a show then, go
[2:26:08] ahead.
[2:26:09] >> as a point of order when one
[2:26:10] supervisor is addressing and in the
[2:26:11] middle of a line of questioning, it's
[2:26:12] not important that no supervisor
[2:26:15] exercises power to that supervisor to
[2:26:17] try to shape the discussion.
[2:26:18] I really think we need as a board to
[2:26:20] go ahead and recognize that decorum.
[2:26:25] that being said, what I want to go
[2:26:26] ahead and I'm not trying to argue
[2:26:28] against this, I'm trying to make sure
[2:26:29] we have the mechanism in place should
[2:26:33] this contract -- I know you're on
[2:26:36] probationary status, should somehow
[2:26:37] your license be revoked that we have
[2:26:39] the mechanism in place to make sure
[2:26:40] the county is in good position to go
[2:26:45] ahead and claw back any grant monies
[2:26:47] or any funding that has already been
[2:26:48] granted to the grantee, so do we have
[2:26:52] any clawback provisions for any of
[2:26:56] the funding we are providing this
[2:26:58] project?
[2:26:59] >> just in candor and I would have to
[2:27:01] defer to anybody else that has any
[2:27:04] information, I don't think the state
[2:27:06] has the ability to claw has back, the
[2:27:09] money is going to be used to move the
[2:27:12] grant forward and there isn't any
[2:27:15] mechanism for that.
[2:27:20] >> and, supervisor, I think that money
[2:27:22] would go towards the building of the
[2:27:24] building, whoever came in subsequently
[2:27:25] and purchased that building would then
[2:27:27] take over that operation.
[2:27:30] so, it would still be a good
[2:27:35] investment if they -- if that other
[2:27:36] provider came in and took over the
[2:27:41] building.
[2:27:42] >> okay.
[2:27:43] >> you won't pass, supervisor speier?
[2:27:47] >> just for a point of clarification,
[2:27:49] when were you put on probation?
[2:27:53] >> the current probation was two years
[2:27:55] ago, I done have the exact time?
[2:27:57] >> two years ago, you were put on
[2:27:59] probation because there was a death at
[2:28:00] the facility, is that correct?
[2:28:04] >> the original occurrence was back in
[2:28:07] 2021.
[2:28:08] and then there was a review of
[2:28:11] information, during that time we were
[2:28:12] trying to build our compliance
[2:28:13] department out where there was a
[2:28:21] deficiency found.
[2:28:25] >> during this period of time when you
[2:28:27] applied for the grant, the state was
[2:28:28] aware of the fact that you were on
[2:28:29] probation?
[2:28:30] >> they were aware, yes.
[2:28:35] >> as part of the application?
[2:28:36] >> yes, dhcs was aware.
[2:28:37] >> and they were confident in giving
[2:28:39] you a 25 million dollar grant.
[2:28:40] >> yes.
[2:28:41] >> now, my question to you, county
[2:28:45] executive, if in fact they were to
[2:28:48] fail, they would still be the owner of
[2:28:51] that property which would mean that
[2:28:55] they would be able to receive rent
[2:29:02] from a subsequent provider of that
[2:29:04] service at that location for up to 30
[2:29:07] years, correct?
[2:29:08] >> I would defer to the county
[2:29:10] attorney, I'm not that particular with
[2:29:12] the terms of the proposed lease.
[2:29:14] I know his office has been working on
[2:29:16] that.
[2:29:17] >> thank you, I think I'm going to ask
[2:29:18] my colleague, mr. Fox, who was
[2:29:20] involved in the drafting of the lease
[2:29:22] and some of the other related
[2:29:24] documents to speak to the specific
[2:29:26] mechanisms at play here.
[2:29:29] >> the ground lease as presently
[2:29:33] drafted does provide they would have
[2:29:34] site control and they would be
[2:29:36] obligated to comply with the deed
[2:29:37] restrictions and the terms of the
[2:29:39] ground lease during the term of the
[2:29:41] ground lease so it was being operated
[2:29:44] as a rehab facility as described by
[2:29:46] the state grant.
[2:29:47] so, you are correct they would have
[2:29:50] essentially landlord position if they
[2:29:53] exercised the purchase option and they
[2:29:55] would receive the income stream from a
[2:29:57] tenant who would lease it and operate
[2:29:59] it consistent with the state grant,
[2:30:02] that's what's contemplated.
[2:30:03] >> so, if they chose to charge an
[2:30:10] exorbitant rent and we needed to make
[2:30:12] sure we provided those services in the
[2:30:15] county, we in the end would be picking
[2:30:18] up the tab?
[2:30:22] >> I am not an expert in how the
[2:30:26] funding for rehabilitation services
[2:30:27] would work under such a circumstance.
[2:30:29] I believe that it would go to an rfp --
[2:30:32] >> no, of course, but in the end, the
[2:30:35] county would be paying for the
[2:30:37] services rendered there and --
[2:30:39] >> it would not be obligated to fund a
[2:30:41] tenant who was using that particular
[2:30:43] facility.
[2:30:44] so, for example, if horizon decided to
[2:30:50] charge an exorbitant rent, the county
[2:30:51] would not be obligated to issue an rfp
[2:30:55] to a replacement provider that sought
[2:30:57] to use that particular site.
[2:30:59] that's the downward pressure on horizon
[2:31:02] charging exorbitant rent at that site.
[2:31:04] there's no obligation on our part to
[2:31:07] cite the facility there.
[2:31:08] >> do we have the ability then to
[2:31:12] require that if they were in a
[2:31:14] position where they became the
[2:31:15] landlord of a tenant who was providing
[2:31:18] these similar services, that the rent
[2:31:19] would have to be consistent with the
[2:31:24] rental rate at that point in time, is
[2:31:28] that a provision that could be put
[2:31:30] into the agreement?
[2:31:31] >> I think we could explore that.
[2:31:32] I think that we have to explore a
[2:31:33] little bit more to determine if the
[2:31:35] state would take the facility back
[2:31:38] because it's their grant money and
[2:31:39] they're required to operate for 30
[2:31:42] years at least.
[2:31:43] so, we can explore the way the grant
[2:31:45] is written.
[2:31:48] additionally, we could also explore
[2:31:52] putting in a sale provision of the
[2:31:55] land if in fact their license is
[2:32:00] revoked and they're unable to operate
[2:32:01] that they would sell the property
[2:32:04] within 90 days, we could explore that
[2:32:06] also.
[2:32:07] there's various things we can explore
[2:32:08] to ensure we address your comfort
[2:32:10] level with this.
[2:32:11] >> alright, thank you.
[2:32:14] >> so, I do believe we have a motion
[2:32:16] and a second.
[2:32:17] maybe -- but before we do a roll call
[2:32:22] vote, I want to say for a second that,
[2:32:29] you know, going back to when this
[2:32:31] first came to our board, the first
[2:32:33] vote that we took on this for the 2
[2:32:36] million dollars that was on consent,
[2:32:40] I want to publicly apologize for how
[2:32:45] this board and for how our community
[2:32:47] has treated horizon.
[2:32:48] these are difficult services to
[2:32:51] provide.
[2:32:52] we talked earlier today about overdose
[2:32:57] and drug treatment and we were very
[2:33:01] celebratory and empathetic and then we
[2:33:03] have a discussion about actually
[2:33:06] providing services and the difficulty
[2:33:09] of that and the tone is different and
[2:33:11] that's not lost on me.
[2:33:13] so, I just want to apologize for that.
[2:33:16] roll call vote.
[2:33:17] >> I would like to comment.
[2:33:18] >> okay, go ahead.
[2:33:22] >> so, again, we have to talk about
[2:33:23] decorum.
[2:33:24] first off, I think in going ahead and
[2:33:25] talking about what safeguards are
[2:33:28] within a contract should there be a
[2:33:29] default is not to undermine the
[2:33:31] services that are being provided and
[2:33:32] that was not the intent of myself, I'm
[2:33:34] sure that was mot intent of supervisor
[2:33:38] speier.
[2:33:39] to indicate that because we are
[2:33:40] talking about what is contained in the
[2:33:42] contract and the issue of default is
[2:33:44] somehow a negative disparagement is
[2:33:46] not accurate and we want -- obviously
[2:33:50] we need these programs, they're very
[2:33:53] important.
[2:33:54] we're just simply trying to make sure
[2:33:56] we protect those valuable dollars in
[2:33:58] the event there is a default so we
[2:34:00] continue to provide those services to
[2:34:02] those who need them and so I don't
[2:34:06] think there's the need for us to go
[2:34:07] ahead and set up that sort of
[2:34:13] political dialogue in the passing of
[2:34:14] this, and I think for the dough core
[2:34:17] rum and for this board to get along, I
[2:34:19] think we should avoid that.
[2:34:20] >> okay.
[2:34:21] what I will say is that I have
[2:34:28] attempted several times to pass a
[2:34:30] governance handbook for this board and
[2:34:32] I have attempted to have a discussion
[2:34:35] about that and for some reason, we as
[2:34:37] a board have been unable to do that.
[2:34:40] I would gladly do that but that is not
[2:34:42] what we are here to do right now.
[2:34:46] I was speaking for myself when I made
[2:34:49] my comments right now and I said what
[2:34:52] I said.
[2:34:53] let's do roll call, please.
[2:34:54] >> through the chair, can I say
[2:34:56] something because I brought it up and
[2:34:58] I wanted clarity, we had somebody
[2:35:01] bringing up some accusations that I
[2:35:03] felt that we needed to just address
[2:35:05] before moving on and I think we've
[2:35:06] cone that, to have a better
[2:35:08] understanding of what you're bringing
[2:35:10] and what you're providing so it's not
[2:35:12] cloudy going into this final decision,
[2:35:13] so thank you for your presentation,
[2:35:15] thank you for the clarity.
[2:35:16] I think the community deserved that as
[2:35:21] well.
[2:35:22] >> and that's totally fair.
[2:35:23] thank you.
[2:35:24] supervisor speier?
[2:35:26] >> I would hope that when we speak, we
[2:35:29] don't speak on behalf of the board if
[2:35:32] the board has not made it clear that
[2:35:37] there's an apology that is appropriate.
[2:35:41] secondly, I hope we've learned a
[2:35:43] lesson from this whole experience that
[2:35:46] putting a 2 million dollar grant on
[2:35:50] consent is not advisable, that it
[2:35:52] should be on the regular agenda so
[2:35:54] that it can be properly vetted by the
[2:35:59] entire board moving forward.
[2:36:01] >> supervisor gauthier, I apologize, I
[2:36:03] didn't mention you in my comment.
[2:36:05] >> no problem.
[2:36:06] >> it was inadvertent.
[2:36:07] >> roll call vote, please.
[2:36:09] >> supervisor speier?
[2:36:10] >> aye.
[2:36:11] >> supervisor mueller?
[2:36:12] >> yes.
[2:36:13] >> supervisor gauthier?
[2:36:14] >> yes.
[2:36:15] >> supervisor canepa?
[2:36:16] >> aye.
[2:36:17] >> president corzo?
[2:36:18] >> yes.
[2:36:19] >> motion passes unanimously for item
[2:36:23] 9 and 17.
[2:36:24] >> we will move on to item number 9
[2:36:29] and that is -- one second here.
[2:36:31] >> I think we're on 10.
[2:36:34] >> item 10 is an a resolution
[2:36:36] authorizing an agreement with baker
[2:36:38] places and adult crisis residential
[2:36:42] services and we have dr. Africa here
[2:36:44] to present this item.
[2:36:45] >> again, thank you again for having
[2:36:47] me here, but really the item for
[2:36:52] consideration is a three year
[2:36:53] agreement with baker places in an
[2:36:54] amount of 8 million 316 thousand 934
[2:36:58] to provide crisis residential servies
[2:36:59] to our county residents.
[2:37:01] if you remember last november, redwood
[2:37:05] house closed, decreased the number of
[2:37:07] adult residential beds we have, we
[2:37:09] currently have 13 through our
[2:37:14] partnership with serenity house, we
[2:37:15] obviously want to continue to have
[2:37:16] more adult residential treatment beds
[2:37:18] and baker place through an rfp
[2:37:26] understood the philosophy that we
[2:37:28] wanted.
[2:37:29] our hope is that as redwood house 2.0
[2:37:31] will be rebuilt, we will find an
[2:37:36] alternative or temporary so we can
[2:37:37] have for of these beds.
[2:37:38] the goal again is to be more
[2:37:40] [inaudible] redwood house only focused
[2:37:42] on mental health, now with sb43, we
[2:37:44] want to be able to address people who
[2:37:47] have mental health and substance use
[2:37:49] conditions.
[2:37:50] the staffing will be 24/7, they're
[2:37:53] really looking at providing beds for
[2:37:56] about 16 severely mentally ill over 18
[2:38:00] year-olds and hopefully again baker
[2:38:02] places will be able to look for a
[2:38:06] location for us and provide the
[2:38:08] temporary services as we build
[2:38:11] redwood house 2.0.
[2:38:12] is I'm happy to answer any questions.
[2:38:14] >> thank you, any questions from the
[2:38:16] board?
[2:38:17] >> yes.
[2:38:18] >> supervisor speier?
[2:38:19] >> madam president, I have one
[2:38:22] concern, we are basically giving this
[2:38:26] entity the power to find a location,
[2:38:32] sign an agreement and provide services
[2:38:36] without knowing where the location is
[2:38:39] and I don't want us to be in another
[2:38:42] situation where there's not
[2:38:43] transparency, where the community is
[2:38:44] not aware and where we have given
[2:38:48] carte blanche authority to an entity
[2:38:53] without having the understanding that
[2:38:58] they have done the due diligence with
[2:39:00] the community and with the local city,
[2:39:02] so I would like to see the agreement
[2:39:05] amended to reflect that.
[2:39:08] >> we definitely learned from the
[2:39:09] lesson before and part of the contract
[2:39:11] stipulation would be through the -- to
[2:39:14] be clear about what baker places will
[2:39:18] need in partnership with us and the
[2:39:19] community to ensure the issues that
[2:39:21] were brought up before don't happen
[2:39:23] again.
[2:39:24] we are also in the stipulation being
[2:39:25] very clear kind of like a fee for
[2:39:28] service model, what are the things
[2:39:30] we're going to pay baker places for
[2:39:32] versus just a blan ke sort of
[2:39:34] contract, so we're being very, very
[2:39:36] clear the kind of deliverables in this
[2:39:39] process, but they would not engage
[2:39:41] with us obviously if there is no
[2:39:43] contract to kind of work to --
[2:39:48] together.
[2:39:49] >> I don't think that answers my
[2:39:52] question.
[2:39:53] does the agreement have a provision
[2:39:54] where there would be a public airing
[2:39:57] of the location with the community to
[2:40:00] assess the appropriateness of the
[2:40:02] location?
[2:40:03] >> sorry if I wasn't very clear.
[2:40:04] we are going to put nit the
[2:40:07] stipulation that community processes,
[2:40:09] communication, there will be a plan
[2:40:11] that will be shared across the county
[2:40:14] about what baker places will be doing
[2:40:17] and looking at for the location, so
[2:40:19] yes, we will put that there.
[2:40:21] >> so, if they're going sign a
[2:40:23] contract with a third party for the
[2:40:26] property before that's even known it
[2:40:28] sounds like based on way this is
[2:40:29] drafted.
[2:40:30] >> we are looking around, they are
[2:40:33] the experts finding a place that meets
[2:40:36] the criteria for a crisis residential
[2:40:39] treatment facility but we can put --
[2:40:41] and maybe I can work with our county
[2:40:43] counsel to ensure that, but they will
[2:40:45] not even engage in this process
[2:40:47] without a contract.
[2:40:48] we can be very clear about expectation
[2:40:50] of that contract including a community
[2:40:54] process, engaging the community, you
[2:40:57] know, scouting the location, so we can
[2:40:59] be very clear about that.
[2:41:03] >> I have a question after you're done.
[2:41:05] >> so, are you done with your
[2:41:08] questions, supervisor speier?
[2:41:09] okay.
[2:41:10] supervisor canepa has a question.
[2:41:11] I have some questions as well.
[2:41:12] supervisor canepa?
[2:41:13] >> great, I think that's a very fair
[2:41:16] point.
[2:41:18] we've had issues sometimes in
[2:41:20] communities when it's come to land
[2:41:23] use, right, especially around what we
[2:41:25] just heard earlier.
[2:41:26] so I would like to understand, I think
[2:41:29] -- what's the plan, so my concern is
[2:41:32] -- and I know you're going to go back
[2:41:39] to staff and work with it, we want to
[2:41:40] push and move these projects forward
[2:41:41] into communities.
[2:41:42] one of the things I would suggest and
[2:41:43] I think I've talked to the county
[2:41:45] executive about this is when we go
[2:41:48] into communities and cities, you know,
[2:41:50] we should really engage with the
[2:41:53] council, the city council, city
[2:41:56] council should pass a resolution
[2:41:59] saying, look, we're in support of
[2:42:01] where this is, once we get buy-in a
[2:42:04] the council level, they're going to be
[2:42:06] doing the community report.
[2:42:07] what ends up happening is we put these
[2:42:13] facilities in communities that are
[2:42:16] not in unincorporated land and we find
[2:42:17] ourselves sort of like jello.
[2:42:19] I mean, because we're putting these
[2:42:24] facilities and there isn't any sort
[2:42:25] of input from the community.
[2:42:27] the reason I say that, it protects the
[2:42:29] county because the county now can say
[2:42:31] with these different facilities, look,
[2:42:33] we've gone to the city executive,
[2:42:36] we've gone to the city council, we've
[2:42:38] gotten buy-in.
[2:42:39] I mean, what I'm concerned about, dr.
[2:42:42] jei, is that what we're currently
[2:42:45] doing right now needs to change.
[2:42:47] we have all this money through the
[2:42:49] state, through the pass seaming of is
[2:42:52] it measure --
[2:42:54] >> bhsa.
[2:42:55] >> prop 1, we have this influx of
[2:42:58] money, but we're not -- we're really
[2:43:02] not doing that sort of outreach.
[2:43:04] I don't want to relive the mahler site
[2:43:07] again, it's complicating and confusing
[2:43:09] and I think it's the best government
[2:43:12] practice to say to the city, we've
[2:43:14] identified this site, do you support
[2:43:16] it.
[2:43:17] that's just public policy 101 and it
[2:43:19] would save us a lot of problems as we
[2:43:22] move in with all this prop 1 must be.
[2:43:23] thank you.
[2:43:24] >> so, I have a different opinion here.
[2:43:33] I don't think that it is -- it is or
[2:43:38] should be our decision to influence
[2:43:41] where these sites are located.
[2:43:48] it shouldn't be political, it should
[2:43:50] be about what is best for the people
[2:43:53] receiving these services and providers
[2:43:55] know how to make those decisions, not
[2:43:59] politicians.
[2:44:02] it shouldn't become a spectacle in a
[2:44:05] public forum in this way, it becomes
[2:44:10] really ugly.
[2:44:18] so, I do think there should be some
[2:44:22] kind of community engagement but I
[2:44:27] don't think that -- I don't think it
[2:44:32] should be like a requirement written into a
[2:44:37] contract that -- I just get concerned
[2:44:42] if we write it into this contract,
[2:44:43] then we have to write it into every
[2:44:46] single contract and that delays and
[2:44:48] creates more and more hurdles and it's
[2:44:51] completely contradictory to the
[2:44:53] intention of proposition 1 and it
[2:44:59] creates local practice that is in
[2:45:03] complete opposition to the very
[2:45:05] existence of prop 1 and what the
[2:45:07] voters intended when they passed that.
[2:45:13] what happened with horizon in san
[2:45:17] mateo is obviously not ideal either.
[2:45:21] it is election season.
[2:45:23] it was election season.
[2:45:27] it's still election season in that
[2:45:29] district right now.
[2:45:34] guess what, the two people at the
[2:45:35] center of that are on the ballot for
[2:45:37] election right now.
[2:45:47] I think it's a very bad idea for us to
[2:45:50] tread water in that direction, I think
[2:45:52] it's dangerous place to go.
[2:45:59] I think maybe we can have a more
[2:46:01] thoughtful discussion about this
[2:46:05] as a board but I would ask our
[2:46:08] board now -- we can talk more about
[2:46:10] it, I don't think this this should go
[2:46:12] into this contract right now but we
[2:46:16] should -- I think we talked about
[2:46:18] having a public process for how we as
[2:46:21] a county purchase property in
[2:46:24] incorporated areas, like let's have
[2:46:26] that discussion and I would ask county
[2:46:28] executive callagy to bring that back
[2:46:31] as an agendized item for us to have a
[2:46:33] formal ask using and creating a
[2:46:35] process that we then share with our
[2:46:42] city partners and that extends to our
[2:46:46] vendors and properties that they
[2:46:47] purchase but we should not do it now
[2:46:50] in this contract at random.
[2:46:52] so, I would propose that and just
[2:46:55] wondering how my colleagues feel about
[2:47:00] that.
[2:47:09] >> so, it's clear as mud to me, dr.
[2:47:12] jei, the process by which you're
[2:47:14] indicating there will be a
[2:47:17] stipulation, so I'm struggling with
[2:47:18] this.
[2:47:19] we're boeing to -- going to stipulate
[2:47:23] with them in the contract, that
[2:47:24] they're going to go and do community
[2:47:28] outreach process but to what end?
[2:47:34] >> so I think what I'm hearing is the
[2:47:40] concern for example what happened at
[2:47:41] horizon that we didn't engage the
[2:47:42] community, we didn't engage the city
[2:47:43] council, we didn't tell them in
[2:47:45] advance, so one of the things we're
[2:47:46] going to do which is part of the
[2:47:48] community planning process when we are
[2:47:53] building facilities that are needed, we
[2:47:55] tell people about the services, we
[2:47:57] answer their questions.
[2:48:00] we give them an overview of what's the
[2:48:05] process-- what's the process in place
[2:48:07] to keep people safe, we're going to
[2:48:08] work closely with baker places to do
[2:48:09] that.
[2:48:10] one of the things we'd like to do in
[2:48:13] their action to look for a location,
[2:48:14] we would just do that in the beginning
[2:48:16] as well, so not wait in the last
[2:48:18] moment but really in this process,
[2:48:21] already partner with the entities that
[2:48:23] are in that district or in the city.
[2:48:26] >> dr. Africa, what happens if during
[2:48:32] that process the community concerns
[2:48:33] that might be raised or the city
[2:48:34] council concerns or the city planning
[2:48:36] concerns come back with substantive
[2:48:42] issues that affect with good reason
[2:48:44] the placement of the facility?
[2:48:49] >> like any other place that we have,
[2:48:51] we try to really mitigate their
[2:48:55] concerns.
[2:48:56] so I also want to just make sure that
[2:48:58] what we're trying to do is just find a
[2:49:01] temporary location for -- as we
[2:49:03] rebuild the redwood house which is
[2:49:05] already a crisis residential in
[2:49:07] redwood city.
[2:49:09] that's the ultimate goal is that that
[2:49:13] is to be another crisis residential.
[2:49:15] right now we would be trying to engage
[2:49:18] to find a location temporarily so we
[2:49:21] increase the beds from serenity house
[2:49:24] which is 13 to another 12, so when we
[2:49:27] are scouting for the location, we
[2:49:29] would engage with the community and
[2:49:31] the city council to say this is what
[2:49:34] we're trying to do.
[2:49:35] now, there are certain stipulations
[2:49:41] for these residential facilities or
[2:49:44] these facilities that we're building
[2:49:45] that we are allowed to do with -- I
[2:49:48] don't know how I would say like not
[2:49:51] necessarily input but state
[2:49:53] regulations that allow us to build
[2:49:55] these facilities because of the state
[2:49:56] funding for example, similar to the
[2:50:01] bishop grant.
[2:50:02] >> the only avenue left to the board
[2:50:06] would be to try to mitigate whatever
[2:50:09] concerns were raised by the
[2:50:11] stakeholders through that community
[2:50:12] process, there would be no ability
[2:50:14] for the board or the county to
[2:50:19] indicate to the applicant that they
[2:50:24] cannot proceed that the location?
[2:50:25] >> I'm going to ask county counsel,
[2:50:27] john, if he can a address that.
[2:50:31] my fear is every location will not be
[2:50:34] suitable for any treatment facility
[2:50:35] because of the what is happening, so
[2:50:38] we want to really partner as best as
[2:50:40] we can to answer the community's
[2:50:44] concerns, that really is my fear, but
[2:50:46] maybe john can answer.
[2:50:47] >> before we hand it over to county
[2:50:51] counsel nibbelin, county executive
[2:50:53] callagy would like to share some
[2:50:55] thoughts.
[2:50:56] >> I think if I may interject here
[2:50:58] and just set the record straight.
[2:50:59] for every single property we purchase,
[2:51:04] we go to the city manager and to the
[2:51:05] city council.
[2:51:06] I would say that with the exception of
[2:51:13] the last purchase in foster city where
[2:51:17] we didn't go to the city council but
[2:51:20] the city manager was made aware and
[2:51:23] presumably the city council was aware.
[2:51:26] typically we sit down with the
[2:51:28] councilmembers and try to educate them.
[2:51:29] this is a process that has always gone
[2:51:32] on and has always been utilized but to
[2:51:35] the point that you're trying to
[2:51:38] make, this has become so politically
[2:51:40] charged in every community that it's
[2:51:43] easier for councils to say no and not
[2:51:47] here and I've heard is same thing
[2:51:49] many, many times, these services are
[2:51:52] warranted, great services but not just
[2:51:54] here, wrong location.
[2:51:55] so, that is what we're up against and
[2:52:00] these are vital services we're
[2:52:03] required to provide.
[2:52:04] it will have to be at the end, which
[2:52:08] I'm happen appoint to work with the
[2:52:10] board on this, this board has veto
[2:52:12] right and it has to be approved by
[2:52:14] this board no matter what the property
[2:52:17] is and hopefully this board would put
[2:52:22] you in a difficult situation as it did
[2:52:25] in millbrae and other areas but the
[2:52:27] board voted to move forward with
[2:52:30] that project in those areas, so I
[2:52:33] think that certainly that could be
[2:52:34] done in this instance too, that
[2:52:36] whatever the location is that there
[2:52:38] needs to be board approval for it to
[2:52:40] move forward.
[2:52:43] but I just wanted again to rei rate
[2:52:46] that we have always talked to the
[2:52:47] city's prior -- in fact, many cases
[2:52:49] before even this board knew that we
[2:52:51] were looking at those locations
[2:52:53] because we wanted their input before
[2:52:55] we came to the board and hen we polled
[2:52:57] the board and determined if there was
[2:53:00] support, that's the way it's always
[2:53:01] worked but obviously we need to modify
[2:53:03] it.
[2:53:04] what we're doing now is simply not
[2:53:06] working.
[2:53:07] >> and I thank you for that, county
[2:53:09] executive callagy, just to finish what
[2:53:12] I was indicating was -- and with my
[2:53:16] question, then, I don't think the
[2:53:18] board needs to self-impose on itself
[2:53:21] the inability to go ahead and exercise
[2:53:24] that discretion.
[2:53:29] it's not like burlingame was cheering
[2:53:31] when we put the facility in burlingame.
[2:53:35] I had many outreaches from folks who
[2:53:39] were unhappy it went in burlingame who
[2:53:41] I'm still interacting with on the fact
[2:53:44] that horizon is in burlingame but the
[2:53:47] decision made the decision that was
[2:53:49] the more appropriate place for the
[2:53:50] facility and the facility as of today
[2:53:52] is going forward.
[2:53:53] so I don't think -- I think the board
[2:53:55] can make the decision appropriately
[2:53:58] where to go ahead and place facilities.
[2:54:03] so, I would like to see the board
[2:54:05] retain discretion.
[2:54:11] >> supervisor canepa?
[2:54:12] >> great, thank you very much.
[2:54:14] the challenge here and I don't think
[2:54:16] this is in your area is really the
[2:54:18] planning aspect of it.
[2:54:20] mike, what I would encourage staff to
[2:54:22] do is to really work, the la quinta
[2:54:31] was very challenging.
[2:54:32] I think we're finding ourselves in a
[2:54:35] position where we're always behind the
[2:54:37] 8 ball, we need to work with our
[2:54:40] planning directors at the city level
[2:54:44] to identify with our real estate
[2:54:47] division what are the locations they
[2:54:50] think makes sense and if we get out
[2:54:51] ahead of that and we work and
[2:54:54] understand what they've identified, I
[2:54:56] think that will alleviate a lot of our
[2:54:59] issues.
[2:55:00] you know, I think land use -- I'm very
[2:55:05] -- maybe it's very old school, if you
[2:55:12] are coming to build something in san
[2:55:16] mateo, my main goal is to see what we
[2:55:17] can do to have the conversations,
[2:55:21] bring people together, say to them in
[2:55:24] honest conversations, say we worked
[2:55:25] with our planning staff, here's sites
[2:55:31] we've identified, we should be able
[2:55:33] to through deliberation and discourse,
[2:55:36] the city council should be able to
[2:55:38] say, hey, we have the best information
[2:55:41] beside us, our planning staff has
[2:55:47] identified plan alternative a, b or c,
[2:55:50] but by doing that, it gets us to a
[2:55:51] better outcome and it would alleviate
[2:55:52] a lot of the issues that are before us.
[2:55:56] I'm not convinced, mike, I'm not
[2:56:00] convinced that every city is going to
[2:56:01] say no.
[2:56:03] I'm not convinced that every city
[2:56:05] council's going to say no.
[2:56:07] what I am convinced is that if we're
[2:56:11] able to bring them along early, then
[2:56:14] we would avoid the issues we had with
[2:56:19] la quinta and mahler, so I hear
[2:56:22] everyone's comments but what we're
[2:56:24] doing now and you recognize it and
[2:56:26] you're closing, it's not working, it's
[2:56:31] tension, it's looking -- we're looking
[2:56:33] disjointed.
[2:56:34] we need to find
[2:56:38] better processes and I'm glad you've
[2:56:40] addressed that we can do better in that
[2:56:43] area, I think it's needed.
[2:56:44] >> and if I can respond, supervisor,
[2:56:46] going back to la quinta, we did
[2:56:52] expensive outreach, we had more
[2:56:53] meetings than anywhere else, we
[2:56:55] had sit-downs with the city council,
[2:56:57] we had city council meetings and yet
[2:56:59] that still fell apart, yet the board
[2:57:02] voted to move forward with that 3-2
[2:57:04] and that was the board's desire to
[2:57:06] move forward with that.
[2:57:08] so, the problem being and we've heard
[2:57:11] that before is like let's help you
[2:57:13] find a different spot.
[2:57:15] those buildings aren't for sale, it's
[2:57:17] not a good buy for the county and
[2:57:20] we're looking at trying to get the
[2:57:21] best buy for the county, there's no
[2:57:25] government zoning area in any city
[2:57:27] plan that I'm aware of that designates
[2:57:30] an area for government to be in.
[2:57:32] so, these are all the challenges when
[2:57:34] we're trying to find a place to move,
[2:57:37] we're trying to find a location that
[2:57:39] suits our needs.
[2:57:40] I'm trying to work with the city as
[2:57:46] best we can but the interests are
[2:57:47] not always congruent and that's where
[2:57:48] we find ourselves often trying to work
[2:57:52] through that incongruency.
[2:57:53] >> and I agree with you, I think the
[2:57:55] la quinta was somewhat different,
[2:58:05] we did the outreach after the site was
[2:58:08] already celebrities, what I'm
[2:58:09] suggesting -- selected, what I'm
[2:58:13] suggesting is to work with the
[2:58:15] planning department initially to
[2:58:16] identify sites, not to have a site put
[2:58:18] on a city and then say, hey, here you
[2:58:20] have to deal with it.
[2:58:21] no, what we want to do is get out
[2:58:23] ahead of it, work with the planning
[2:58:25] staff right away, I identified
[2:58:27] a site on el camino real, the
[2:58:33] city planner, they support that.
[2:58:34] to me, that would be the best approach
[2:58:36] to get out ahead of it, so thank you.
[2:58:38] >> thank you.
[2:58:40] so, --
[2:58:44] >> I have a question.
[2:58:45] >> I want to make a comment real quick
[2:58:46] and I'll hand it over to you.
[2:58:49] so, I would like to add to further
[2:58:55] county executive callagy's point that
[2:58:59] often the areas that many cities and
[2:59:04] at times residents would point to as
[2:59:06] being appropriate for some of these
[2:59:09] sites are least appropriate for the
[2:59:13] residents and future patients of these
[2:59:16] sites and sometimes they're
[2:59:18] commercial, sometimes they're closest
[2:59:20] to the highest risk areas where it's
[2:59:24] the worst place for these residents to
[2:59:29] be.
[2:59:30] often they are historically redlined
[2:59:35] communities and I won't even get into
[2:59:43] the like racial implications of that
[2:59:47] but I do think that we shouldn't
[2:59:50] ignore that context and that context is
[2:59:54] still very present today and we
[2:59:58] shouldn't be blind to it.
[3:00:03] it's still very present and if we're
[3:00:05] not going to be real about that, then
[3:00:10] -- I'll just stop there, but yeah, I
[3:00:15] know supervisor speier has a comment
[3:00:16] to make but I would like to vote on
[3:00:20] this item and then we will be
[3:00:24] convening to closed session.
[3:00:25] we will have lunch and then we'll come
[3:00:27] back, so supervisor speier?
[3:00:30] >> so, as I look at this contract, on
[3:00:34] page 12, it says contractor in
[3:00:38] collaboration with bhrs will lease or
[3:00:40] buy an appropriate facility in central
[3:00:43] location in san mateo county.
[3:00:45] prior to opening, a contractor and
[3:00:49] contractor will do a walkthrough and a
[3:00:52] contractor will have written approval
[3:00:53] from the county.
[3:00:54] I'm not prepared to vote in favor of
[3:00:56] this because I don't think it has
[3:00:58] language that reflects what we've been
[3:01:00] talking about.
[3:01:01] I either would like to see us post own
[3:01:02] this and change the language or I'm
[3:01:05] indicating that I will be a no vote.
[3:01:06] >> okay.
[3:01:07] supervisor canepa?
[3:01:12] >> when is -- through the clerk, when
[3:01:14] is our next board meeting?
[3:01:16] >> september 15.
[3:01:17] >> what I would do and I don't know if
[3:01:19] I can support it today, I understand
[3:01:21] that there's a funding component.
[3:01:23] what I would ask is we continue this
[3:01:25] item to the next meeting so that
[3:01:28] something can be brought back to us
[3:01:30] from staff that sort of addresses
[3:01:36] board members' concerns.
[3:01:37] I'm willing to support a continuance
[3:01:38] on this item.
[3:01:39] >> okay.
[3:01:47] >> I make the motion to continue the
[3:01:49] item.
[3:01:50] >> okay, let's take public comment and
[3:01:52] then we will do a roll call vote.
[3:01:54] >> okay, I do not have speaker cards
[3:01:57] for item number 10.
[3:01:58] if you would like to make a comment
[3:01:59] online, please raise your hand at this
[3:02:02] time.
[3:02:03] final call for item number 10.
[3:02:04] I do have one hand raised.
[3:02:21] leticia, please begin.
[3:02:22] >> given the fact it's a temporary
[3:02:26] location, again, so apologies, so I
[3:02:28] serve on the behavioral health
[3:02:30] commission and I just am in full
[3:02:33] support of not delaying and I feel
[3:02:38] very -- not delaying this matter
[3:02:42] further.
[3:02:44] I feel that just thinking about a
[3:02:46] quote that comes to mind is that often
[3:02:48] the price of inaction is far greater
[3:02:50] than the cost of making a mistake.
[3:02:54] however, I will not say that this is a
[3:02:56] mistake given the discussions we have
[3:02:58] been having.
[3:03:00] I don't see that the risk is high with
[3:03:06] respect to what dr. Africa has -- how
[3:03:11] he has responded to the concerns of
[3:03:13] the board and I am in full support of
[3:03:18] certainly just as a community member,
[3:03:21] and as an advocate for mental health
[3:03:24] services of which more and more we are
[3:03:27] learning that there really isn't
[3:03:29] sufficient funding for the increase in
[3:03:37] need of mental health service,
[3:03:39] substance use services in our nation
[3:03:40] and certainly in our local community
[3:03:42] so again I would caution that, you
[3:03:46] know, the delay and my support is to
[3:03:49] move forward as a community member, as
[3:03:51] a mental health advocate and as a
[3:03:55] member as I sit before you serving the
[3:03:59] board of supervisors on the behavioral
[3:04:01] health commission, thank you.
[3:04:05] >> and that concludes public comment.
[3:04:06] >> thank you, I would like to make a
[3:04:08] substitute motion to approve the item as
[3:04:11] presented.
[3:04:12] is there a second?
[3:04:27] okay, roll call vote.
[3:04:30] >> on the first motion.
[3:04:31] >> supervisor speier?
[3:04:32] >> aye.
[3:04:33] >> supervisor mueller?
[3:04:34] >> yes.
[3:04:35] >> supervisor gauthier?
[3:04:36] >> yes.
[3:04:37] >> supervisor canepa?
[3:04:38] >> yes.
[3:04:39] >> and president corzo?
[3:04:40] >> no.
[3:04:41] >> motion passes to continue this
[3:04:42] item.
[3:04:43] >> okay, we will now move on to closed
[3:04:49] session and we will reconvene after
[3:04:53] closed session.
[3:04:54] thank you.
[3:04:55] >> the time is 12:07 p.m..
[3:05:27] ( meeting adjourned to closed session).
[3:05:32] >> the time is 1:01, madam president, we
[3:05:33] can call the meeting back to order with
[3:05:35] all supervisors present.
[3:05:36] >> it is 1:01 p.m., we are going
[3:05:41] squeeze in item 11 before we start our
[3:05:46] study session which is item number 6,
[3:05:48] let's take a quick vote to amend the
[3:05:51] agenda.
[3:05:52] and we have something to report out
[3:05:54] of closed session.
[3:05:55] >> in addition to amend the order of
[3:05:57] the agenda, I wanted to report out on
[3:06:00] a unanimous 5-0 vote, the board
[3:06:06] pursuant to 54947.1 of california
[3:06:09] government code approved the
[3:06:10] initiation of three items of
[3:06:13] litigation, the action of the defendants,
[3:06:16] the respondents, the particular forum and
[3:06:19] other particulars shall once were
[3:06:21] disclosed upon any earnings upon inquiry
[3:06:25] unless to do so would jeopardize the
[3:06:29] agency's parties and would jeopardize
[3:06:33] its ability to negotiate existing
[3:06:39] settlement.
[3:06:40] >> thank you so much.
[3:06:41] I would like to -- I motion to amend
[3:06:44] the agenda to move item number 11
[3:06:48] before item number 6.
[3:06:50] there's a second by supervisor canepa,
[3:06:52] roll call vote, please.
[3:06:54] >> supervisor speier?
[3:06:55] >> aye.
[3:06:57] >> supervisor mueller?
[3:06:58] >> yes.
[3:06:59] >> supervisor gauthier?
[3:07:02] >> yes.
[3:07:05] >> supervisor canepa?
[3:07:06] >> yes.
[3:07:07] >> and president corzo?
[3:07:08] >> yes.
[3:07:09] >> considering the lateness of the
[3:07:11] day, I would like to move 19 to
[3:07:14] consent even though we've already
[3:07:16] taken up the consent agenda, can we move
[3:07:18] that back to consent, I originally
[3:07:20] lifted it from consent to
[3:07:26] regular.
[3:07:27] >> I'm sorry, the question?
[3:07:28] >> we have an item that's on the
[3:07:30] regular agenda.
[3:07:32] I would like to make a motion.
[3:07:33] >> okay.
[3:07:34] >> second.
[3:07:35] >> to accept the report.
[3:07:37] >> okay, roll call vote, please.
[3:07:39] >> supervisor speier?
[3:07:40] >> aye.
[3:07:41] >> supervisor mueller?
[3:07:42] >> yes.
[3:07:43] >> supervisor gauthier?
[3:07:44] >> yes.
[3:07:45] >> supervisor canepa?
[3:07:46] >> aye.
[3:07:47] >> president corzo?
[3:07:49] >> with that, we have moved item
[3:07:54] number 19 -- we already approved the
[3:07:56] consent, I believe we have just
[3:07:57] approved item number 19 with this vote.
[3:08:00] and we will now hear item number 11
[3:08:03] and it will be quick, so that we can
[3:08:05] move quickly on to our study session.
[3:08:09] thank you, director hodges.
[3:08:10] >> yes.
[3:08:11] good afternoon, president corzo,
[3:08:13] honorable board members, mr. Callagy,
[3:08:17] mr. Nibbelin, mr. Eli, I'm ray hodges,
[3:08:22] the department of house, and I'm
[3:08:26] pleased to be joined by doh, the
[3:08:31] affordable housing fund is the flagship
[3:08:33] program by providing capital
[3:08:36] subsidy to affordable housing
[3:08:38] throughout the county through a
[3:08:40] rigorous competitive process.
[3:08:41] the fund of competition were launched
[3:08:44] back in 2019 with boomerang funds and
[3:08:47] your board has directed a source of
[3:08:52] resources, arpa and cares act dollars
[3:08:54] and some other resources.
[3:08:56] the affordable housing fund is also
[3:08:57] the means by which our department
[3:09:00] disburses other state and local funds
[3:09:03] we compete with whenever possible.
[3:09:11] so, across our first 13 rounds, san
[3:09:14] mateo county has supported 72
[3:09:16] affordable housing developments with a
[3:09:19] total of 5122 affordable homes.
[3:09:24] 3142 are complete and occupied by low
[3:09:28] income families, seniors, public
[3:09:30] employees, veterans, farm workers,
[3:09:32] persons with disabilities and
[3:09:35] formerly unhoused persons with
[3:09:38] families.
[3:09:39] 790 are under construction with
[3:09:40] another 1190 are in predevelopment, we
[3:09:43] know those projects have commitments
[3:09:44] from us but we know our cities are
[3:09:47] shaping additional projects earlier in
[3:09:49] predevelopment right now.
[3:09:50] and this speaks to one of the primary
[3:09:52] goals of the fund which is helping the
[3:09:55] county's 21 jurisdictions preserve
[3:09:57] affordable homes and thereby helping
[3:09:59] them make meaningful progress towards
[3:10:03] rhna housing production targets in the
[3:10:05] state.
[3:10:06] given the amount of funding we have
[3:10:07] available to administer versus the
[3:10:09] demand we see in the competition every
[3:10:11] year, our team strives to stretch the
[3:10:13] county dollars as far as possible to
[3:10:14] maximize the number of affordable
[3:10:16] homes we can support in the 21
[3:10:19] jurisdictions.
[3:10:20] you can see here the county is
[3:10:21] invested a total of 364 million
[3:10:25] dollars in those 5100 affordable homes
[3:10:27] but that investment allowed us to
[3:10:30] access 3.2 billion dollars in private
[3:10:32] financing and subsidy from state,
[3:10:35] federal government and fill
[3:10:37] philanthropy to produce and preserve
[3:10:39] affordable homes but to provide jobs
[3:10:41] and construction in the property
[3:10:43] management, supportive services,
[3:10:45] financial services and more.
[3:10:46] right now to date, every dollar of
[3:10:48] measure k proceeds invested in the
[3:10:50] fund is leveraged $16 of other
[3:10:55] resources.
[3:10:57] so, in round 14, we had just over 29
[3:11:00] million dollars available to allocate,
[3:11:02] 19 million dollars in new measure a
[3:11:08] funds, 12 million dollars returned to
[3:11:09] the county through changes to
[3:11:10] previously awarded projects, 5 until
[3:11:14] mental health services, and 100
[3:11:15] thousand dollars in county impact fees.
[3:11:17] we received ten applications
[3:11:20] requesting 70 million dollars,
[3:11:21] one did not meet threshold
[3:11:23] requirements but what you have before
[3:11:25] you today in a moment here is the
[3:11:29] recommendations of doh staff and our
[3:11:31] housing and community development
[3:11:32] committee which held a public hearing
[3:11:34] on these projects last month.
[3:11:41] the 9 applications that met threshold
[3:11:43] were located in 9 communities across
[3:11:45] the county shown on the map, the 6
[3:11:48] highest scoring projects recommended for
[3:11:50] funding are located in the city's in
[3:11:52] bold on this list.
[3:11:55] there we go.
[3:11:59] south san francisco, half moon bay,
[3:12:02] san carlos, redwood city,
[3:12:05] unincorporated north fair oaks and the
[3:12:06] town of portola valley.
[3:12:10] three projects were not awarded to an
[3:12:15] award because of lower scores and
[3:12:18] limiting the subsidy, they are all
[3:12:22] good projects and we suspect they'll
[3:12:24] approach us for support in the future.
[3:12:27] so, staff and the housing and
[3:12:29] community development committee
[3:12:30] recommend awards to six projects, they
[3:12:33] sum to 459 affordable homes in five
[3:12:36] new construction rental projects and
[3:12:37] one first time ownership project.
[3:12:40] these six requested a total of over 37
[3:12:42] million in capital financing through
[3:12:45] staff's underwriting and scoring, we
[3:12:48] recommended smaller awards to two of
[3:12:49] the projects but were confident they
[3:12:51] can still move into construction with
[3:12:53] that award.
[3:12:54] none of the 9 projects requested the
[3:12:57] available mhsa funding so we are
[3:12:59] awarding over 24 million dollars today
[3:13:01] and will put that remaining image out
[3:13:03] through a more focused over
[3:13:09] -the-counter supplemental nofa.
[3:13:12] critical goals of the funds is to
[3:13:15] provide affordable homes for
[3:13:17] populations essential to your board's
[3:13:19] priorities, in this round, these six
[3:13:21] projects will provide a minimum of 24
[3:13:24] units of supportive housing for
[3:13:26] people supporting homelessness, 76
[3:13:28] homes with persons with an
[3:13:30] intellectual or development
[3:13:32] disability, 39 homes for senior farm
[3:13:35] workers, 24 for county and other
[3:13:37] public employees and 193 units for
[3:13:40] families who need two and three
[3:13:42] bedroom homes.
[3:13:43] and I'll turn here to rocio for quick
[3:13:49] details for projects.
[3:13:53] >> thank you, ray.
[3:13:57] >> welcome.
[3:14:00] >> I'm going to talk now about 555
[3:14:06] kelly, this is located in the heart of
[3:14:09] half moon bay close to health clinic,
[3:14:14] pharmacy, grocery stores, public
[3:14:16] transit and agricultural employment.
[3:14:19] it will have 40 senior farm worker
[3:14:22] units and at least two of these units
[3:14:28] will be assigned for senior farm
[3:14:31] workers experiencing homelessness.
[3:14:33] the property will have a community
[3:14:36] resource center that will provide
[3:14:38] services for the entire farm worker
[3:14:42] community.
[3:14:43] it has secured significant city and
[3:14:46] state funding including 13.3 million
[3:14:49] dollars award from the farmer program
[3:14:55] and 2.76 million from the infill
[3:14:59] infrastructure grant and a city
[3:15:01] commitment for 3.1 million dollars, 1.4
[3:15:07] million comes from arpa a award to the
[3:15:11] city.
[3:15:12] the project requested 7.3 million
[3:15:14] dollars and their recommendation is
[3:15:17] measure k award of 6.5 million.
[3:15:22] this recommendation is conditioned on
[3:15:23] the project working with the county
[3:15:26] secure operating subsidy and
[3:15:29] applying for 9% tax credits in
[3:15:31] early 2027.
[3:15:34] staff and hcd, housing and community
[3:15:38] development committee are also aware
[3:15:45] of a local initiative on the november
[3:15:49] ballot that will overturn the city's
[3:15:52] council approval of the project if
[3:15:55] passed.
[3:15:56] should the ballot initiative be
[3:15:59] successful, the housing with the
[3:16:01] developer and the city to discuss
[3:16:05] appropriate next steps that the moment.
[3:16:13] >> I'm sorry to interrupt you, I
[3:16:15] thought we could do this item really
[3:16:17] quickly before the study session but
[3:16:19] can you just tell me how much more
[3:16:21] time you think you need?
[3:16:25] >> [inaudible]
[3:16:26] >> I'm sorry, we could also just move
[3:16:29] it back to after but the study
[3:16:32] session's probably going to take like
[3:16:33] two hours.
[3:16:37] >> madam chair --
[3:16:38] >> this is very important.
[3:16:40] >> madam chair --
[3:16:41] >> you're doing a great job, rocio.
[3:16:43] >> we have the items, we reviewed
[3:16:46] them.
[3:16:47] I know we've been pretty diligent on the
[3:16:49] package.
[3:16:50] I appreciate staff moving forward in
[3:16:54] an expeditious matter, I'm ready to
[3:16:59] vote the item now and I'm willing to
[3:17:02] make the motion.
[3:17:03] >> if you have questions, I'm happy to
[3:17:04] answer them.
[3:17:05] >> I motion.
[3:17:06] >> there's a motion, a second.
[3:17:07] >> we do need to do public comment.
[3:17:09] wait, did you want to --
[3:17:11] >> I just wanted to just -- just
[3:17:15] because walnut street was covered by
[3:17:18] the daily journal, we've had extensive
[3:17:21] discussions with the city council
[3:17:22] here, midpen and resolved those issues
[3:17:25] with satisfaction to the council,
[3:17:28] now that's on the record, thank you.
[3:17:29] >> okay.
[3:17:30] thank you so much, rocio, I think this
[3:17:32] is your first time presenting.
[3:17:34] you've done really well.
[3:17:36] >> thank you.
[3:17:37] >> let's do public comment.
[3:17:38] >> alright, we're doing public comment
[3:17:40] on item 11, I do have one speaker card
[3:17:43] from chambers is holden wiseman still
[3:17:46] here?
[3:17:49] alright.
[3:17:52] >> president corzo, members of the
[3:17:56] board of supervisors, thank you very
[3:17:58] much, all I want to do is be brief and
[3:17:59] say thank you for your consideration
[3:18:00] of our project in portola valley,
[3:18:04] those units are a first for us,
[3:18:06] building on a church property so
[3:18:08] that's a unique property we're very
[3:18:10] happy to put forward in front of you
[3:18:14] today and receive funding from that.
[3:18:16] I'll pick up director hodge's invitation
[3:18:19] to come back at a lower date on other
[3:18:22] projects we'll have in the county and
[3:18:24] really appreciate your consideration
[3:18:25] today.
[3:18:26] thank you.
[3:18:27] >> alright, thank you.
[3:18:28] we'll go to zoom for public comment on
[3:18:30] item number 11, if you would like to
[3:18:31] make a comment, raise your hand at
[3:18:34] this time, final call.
[3:18:35] we do have one hand raised and that
[3:18:36] anne, please unmute and begin.
[3:18:38] >> thank you.
[3:18:39] I just wanted to say that the project
[3:18:43] at 555 kelly, it is my understanding
[3:18:44] that it has to go to voters and I
[3:18:47] don't know if that will or will not be
[3:18:49] approved, I have no idea, but I am
[3:18:52] still requesting that cypress point
[3:18:53] and moss beach be designated for
[3:18:57] senior housing and there are already
[3:18:59] places for farm workers at that site.
[3:19:01] this is something that will be
[3:19:03] completed within a year and people
[3:19:06] could be moving in at that time
[3:19:08] instead of having to wait and find out
[3:19:12] whether or not this will be approved
[3:19:13] so I just wanted to put that out
[3:19:15] there.
[3:19:16] also there are still safety problems
[3:19:19] with cypress point.
[3:19:20] there is no sidewalk for children to
[3:19:22] walk on to school, there is the dirt,
[3:19:25] it is just a dirt path with one side
[3:19:29] is a ravine, the other side is
[3:19:34] highway 1, with the lack of funds come
[3:19:36] frg the vehicle license fees, that may
[3:19:39] never get taken care of and this is a
[3:19:41] great risk for families with children.
[3:19:43] so, it is a much better site for
[3:19:45] seniors and I please ask that you
[3:19:47] consider that at this time.
[3:19:48] thank you.
[3:19:50] >> thank you.
[3:19:51] and that concludes public comment for
[3:19:54] item number 11.
[3:19:55] >> thank you, supervisor mueller?
[3:19:56] >> yes, colleagues, with respect to
[3:19:58] the 555 kelly project in half moon
[3:20:01] bay, while it is true the project is
[3:20:03] currently facing a referendum, it was
[3:20:06] passed by the city council and the
[3:20:09] current time, state of california, it
[3:20:12] is threatening litigation to the city
[3:20:15] of half moon bay for not complying.
[3:20:19] I think we should move forward to
[3:20:20] empower the city of half moon bay to
[3:20:23] become in compliance with the housing
[3:20:25] element should the referendum fail or
[3:20:28] should the referendum pass, not pass,
[3:20:35] and it fails -- sorry, referendums --
[3:20:39] the referendum needs pass for it to go
[3:20:42] forward.
[3:20:43] if it fails, and the project isn't
[3:20:45] going forward, we still need to put
[3:20:47] the city of half moon bay in the
[3:20:49] proper positioning to negotiate with
[3:20:50] the state of california over that
[3:20:53] potential lawsuit, so either way, it's
[3:20:54] very important that this funding move
[3:20:57] forward today.
[3:21:01] >> I see a lot of my -- does anyone
[3:21:06] else want the make a comment.
[3:21:07] we have a motion and a second I
[3:21:09] believe, roll call vote, please.
[3:21:11] >> supervisor speier?
[3:21:12] >> aye.
[3:21:13] >> supervisor mueller?
[3:21:14] >> yes.
[3:21:15] >> supervisor gauthier?
[3:21:16] >> yes.
[3:21:17] >> canepa?
[3:21:18] >> aye.
[3:21:19] >> president corzo?
[3:21:20] >> yes.
[3:21:21] >> motion passes unanimously.
[3:21:22] >> now we will begin item number 6,
[3:21:23] our long awaited juvenile justice
[3:21:29] study session, with that, I will hand
[3:21:30] it over to supervisor speier for
[3:21:34] welcome and purpose of the study
[3:21:38] session.
[3:21:39] >> thank you, madam president.
[3:21:42] this is as one writer said the
[3:21:47] historic study session and one that is
[3:21:52] very important and one that I think
[3:21:53] we're going to learn a lot from.
[3:21:56] at the outset, I just want to say the
[3:21:58] good news is that juvenile detainees
[3:22:01] have declined over the years.
[3:22:04] today we have 40 detainees at the youth
[3:22:06] service center down from several
[3:22:09] hundred a decade ago.
[3:22:11] we're going to hear today from
[3:22:13] probation chief john keene and from
[3:22:16] the district attorney's office, the
[3:22:18] private defender's office and a judge
[3:22:20] and from community partners providing
[3:22:22] services to the youth.
[3:22:24] and we will hear from the jjdpc chair
[3:22:32] joanna as well, I have made two
[3:22:36] visits to hillcrest, the most recent
[3:22:38] last night, where I sat with 6 or 7
[3:22:41] detainees, some under 18, some over.
[3:22:45] it was an enjoyable gathering and I
[3:22:49] learned a great deal.
[3:22:51] I think there's improvements that can
[3:22:53] be made but I also think that the
[3:22:57] conditions there have improved.
[3:22:59] these are the words of the detainees,
[3:23:01] and that the food has improved and
[3:23:03] these are the words of the detainees,
[3:23:06] so there's some good news here, there's
[3:23:08] some need to improve news and we look
[3:23:11] forward to hearing from all of you.
[3:23:13] >> thank you, supervisor speier.
[3:23:18] I will start by reiterating my lived
[3:23:27] experience and my actual first points
[3:23:31] of contact with our juvenile justice
[3:23:34] system growing up in this community.
[3:23:37] and that is through my experience
[3:23:41] being the younger sister of my brother
[3:23:50] that passed away when I was 16.
[3:23:54] I was I think under 10 when he was a
[3:23:57] teen and he was incarcerated in our
[3:24:02] juvenile hall when it was called
[3:24:04] hillcrest and was located at 21 tower
[3:24:08] road and this was at a time where our
[3:24:13] county was charging families for
[3:24:14] their youth being in detention and our
[3:24:18] family was very low income and I
[3:24:22] remember calling into a board of
[3:24:26] supervisors meeting during covid and
[3:24:28] making a comment via zoom and then I
[3:24:33] joined this board and I remember
[3:24:37] having a conversation with former
[3:24:40] supervisor slocum where he mentioned
[3:24:43] remembering, hearing a public speaker
[3:24:49] refer to a time where families were
[3:24:55] charged for their family member being
[3:24:58] incarcerated and I remember him
[3:25:02] feeling like -- he took that a little
[3:25:04] bit personally and that made me feel
[3:25:06] some empathy because I can understand
[3:25:11] now being in this role how we answer
[3:25:16] for a system where decisions were made
[3:25:20] decades prior that we had no role in
[3:25:22] but we are now in these seats making
[3:25:25] decisions about that same system and
[3:25:27] we have to deal with the impacts of
[3:25:30] decisions made years prior.
[3:25:32] and it's a great responsibility and I
[3:25:37] have since have supported other family
[3:25:39] members in going through the same
[3:25:42] system and it is through this lens
[3:25:45] that I bring a lot of care and
[3:25:47] compassion for our young people and I
[3:25:55] have also seen and gone back to the
[3:26:00] ysc, the youth services center with a
[3:26:02] cousin of mine who was incarcerated
[3:26:05] when she was invited to come back and
[3:26:08] speak to incarcerated youth from her
[3:26:14] lived experience having graduated from
[3:26:16] san jose state, from having become a
[3:26:19] mother and changed her life around,
[3:26:22] having positive healthy relations as
[3:26:24] a consult, positive, healthy
[3:26:26] relationships with staff who do
[3:26:29] workout programs with youth, now
[3:26:33] adults and have positive
[3:26:34] relationships, right.
[3:26:35] positive friendships.
[3:26:40] so, this system at times has caused
[3:26:43] harm but that's not all that it's done.
[3:26:46] a lot of youth have been rehabilitated,
[3:26:52] a lot of improvements have
[3:26:53] been made and I think that it is our
[3:26:54] duty to kind of honor all of it and
[3:26:55] respect all of it and my intention
[3:26:59] with this study session is that we all
[3:27:01] see each other, that we center the
[3:27:03] youth and that we kind of hit a reset
[3:27:09] button and start rowing in the same
[3:27:11] direction in that we value each other's
[3:27:17] work, we respect each other's work
[3:27:18] and we stop fighting each other
[3:27:19] because all that it does is waste our
[3:27:20] energy and it doesn't serve the youth.
[3:27:22] so, that is my purpose for this study
[3:27:27] session and I'm grateful that we're
[3:27:28] all here and I hope that you share
[3:27:30] that purpose with me.
[3:27:33] with that, I would like to welcome
[3:27:38] chief keene to share the state of
[3:27:42] juvenile justice system in our county.
[3:27:45] welcome, chief keene.
[3:28:13] >> I was willing to cede my time to
[3:28:18] the previous presentation if you
[3:28:20] needed those two hours but I figure we
[3:28:23] need to move forward with this.
[3:28:24] thank you for the opportunity to be
[3:28:25] here with you today, honorable board
[3:28:27] of supervisors, mr. Callagy, mr.
[3:28:30] nibbelin, mr. Eli, our public, our
[3:28:33] department, system partners who are
[3:28:35] here, our cbo's who are here to
[3:28:37] support this conversation today.
[3:28:41] so I'm very happy for the opportunity
[3:28:43] to really have a broad conversation
[3:28:46] about the state of the system, the
[3:28:47] state of where we are but also to
[3:28:51] level set and hopefully to reset some
[3:28:56] of the narratives and information
[3:28:58] that's been put out into the ether
[3:29:03] which has a detriment impact itself.
[3:29:05] the words we use matter.
[3:29:07] words have meaning.
[3:29:09] when adults intentionally mislead or
[3:29:12] misrepresent information, it hurts
[3:29:14] rehabilitation.
[3:29:15] it doesn't help it.
[3:29:17] while a much smaller population exists
[3:29:19] at the hall today, they have much more
[3:29:22] significant challenges that can be
[3:29:23] much more difficult to serve.
[3:29:25] many of you heard me say that
[3:29:28] rehabilitation presumes that people
[3:29:30] were already in a good place when we
[3:29:32] met them.
[3:29:33] the for some reason they fell off and
[3:29:35] we reached down and picked them up and
[3:29:37] dust them off and they're good go.
[3:29:39] the reality is the vast majority of the
[3:29:42] young people and the young adults in
[3:29:44] the system that we work with didn't
[3:29:45] start in a good place.
[3:29:49] they're starting in a place with deficits
[3:29:52] that exist that require almost
[3:29:57] ablation, building pathways that
[3:29:59] didn't exist before, so as we think
[3:30:01] about that, young people need those
[3:30:02] who choose to do this work and choose
[3:30:04] to be in the system to have a
[3:30:10] positive transparent behavior pattern.
[3:30:14] my goal today is to provide you with
[3:30:16] factual information about the role of
[3:30:19] function, administration, regulation
[3:30:20] of and operation of the probation
[3:30:22] department, specifically at the youth
[3:30:24] services center.
[3:30:27] policies, regulations, statutes are
[3:30:32] the foundation for which we operate,
[3:30:33] not ideology.
[3:30:34] we implement the law as it is, not how
[3:30:35] others would wish for it to be or how
[3:30:38] others would hope for it to be.
[3:30:50] this is overseen by our juvenile
[3:30:53] institution as well as our housing
[3:30:59] services.
[3:31:00] this aids youth to transition back
[3:31:02] into the community.
[3:31:06] our vision statement here is that we're
[3:31:09] going to help make youth have more
[3:31:12] positive and life-changing choices
[3:31:13] when they return to the community,
[3:31:15] that's our vision statement.
[3:31:16] that's our hope for every single young
[3:31:18] person who walks in our door
[3:31:19] regardless of how they got there.
[3:31:22] all the policies and rules are in
[3:31:29] place that has contributed for them
[3:31:31] being in our space and hopefully to a
[3:31:35] pro social mindset and mindset on life
[3:31:40] which comes with a rehabilitation of
[3:31:42] success.
[3:31:43] there are two separate groups at the
[3:31:44] facility right now, those that are in
[3:31:46] our prep program, the secondary
[3:31:49] group that's in our soarr, prep
[3:31:53] program are going to be there for a
[3:31:55] minimum of 60 days, some of them have
[3:31:58] had dispositions, some of them are
[3:32:00] there because of probation violations
[3:32:02] and our older population which is
[3:32:05] our soarr population, this is as
[3:32:08] response to senate bill 823 of youth
[3:32:13] that would have otherwise went to
[3:32:14] state facilities back to local
[3:32:16] counties, it required for the
[3:32:17] probation department and the county to
[3:32:20] develop programs that mirrored or
[3:32:22] similar to those at the state system.
[3:32:25] this was a difficult lift and one
[3:32:30] did not ask for, the way juvenile
[3:32:33] hall was built and established
[3:32:35] chased to be turned on its head's ends.
[3:32:39] we are driving a car and changing
[3:32:40] tires at the same time and looking out
[3:32:42] for potholes along the way.
[3:32:45] the population over the last two years
[3:32:47] have been consistent, you will see
[3:32:49] there's been slight spikes this year
[3:32:51] in our overall numbers, the numbers
[3:32:55] themselves have been consistent on
[3:32:57] average all the way through.
[3:33:02] so our population which is our older
[3:33:05] population, initially when we first
[3:33:08] built program back when senate bill
[3:33:11] 823 passed, the thought is we might
[3:33:13] get five or six youth that would be in
[3:33:15] this category being supported.
[3:33:16] the reason we thought that is because
[3:33:18] we were low users of djj, it has been
[3:33:25] always to keep young people here at
[3:33:27] home, to send folks to djj and
[3:33:31] not to overly place things removing
[3:33:33] them from home.
[3:33:34] we have always tried to find ways to
[3:33:36] support youth here.
[3:33:37] this board and prior iterations of the
[3:33:39] board have been supportive of that
[3:33:41] process, however it serve as detriment
[3:33:43] when our funding streams were putting
[3:33:45] together.
[3:33:46] unlike many other counties who had
[3:33:48] long historical trends of sending
[3:33:50] people to djj, our money that we
[3:33:52] received as a result of that was
[3:33:53] impacted by that.
[3:33:54] we received a lot less than
[3:33:56] surrounding counties around us.
[3:34:03] so, one of the main things that's
[3:34:07] important today, to talk about a
[3:34:08] system as it stands, how we were put
[3:34:10] together, what our goals are and the
[3:34:12] way in which we do our business.
[3:34:17] detention reform really started in the
[3:34:22] late 90's, the goal was to look at
[3:34:24] large numbers of youth that were
[3:34:25] inside facilities and understanding
[3:34:26] it was a good chance a large
[3:34:27] percentage of those young people did
[3:34:28] not need to be in custodial settings
[3:34:30] to receive services.
[3:34:32] san mateo county like many of the
[3:34:33] other bay counties started to look at
[3:34:35] what could they do differently to
[3:34:37] provide a level of support to
[3:34:39] young people.
[3:34:40] this started in this county around
[3:34:43] 2005, the county put together
[3:34:46] stakeholder meetings and groups and
[3:34:47] looked at who could provide the best
[3:34:49] level of services for young people at
[3:34:51] the same time building a new system
[3:34:53] that would really be more focused on
[3:34:56] putting more young people at home and
[3:34:58] less people in detention where
[3:35:01] possible.
[3:35:02] on the screen you see several of the
[3:35:03] things that are hallmarks of san mateo
[3:35:06] county's focus on only having young
[3:35:08] people in detention as a last resort.
[3:35:10] you will see the building of the ysc,
[3:35:13] you mentioned the old juvenile hall at
[3:35:19] tower road, that was an antiquated
[3:35:21] system and building that had been in
[3:35:23] place for a long time.
[3:35:25] this looked at how can we put together
[3:35:27] services that are not only best for
[3:35:30] young people but helped their
[3:35:32] families, the concept of youth
[3:35:33] services building is around bringing
[3:35:35] things together under one roof so
[3:35:37] you're not sending families all over
[3:35:38] the state and county to receive
[3:35:40] support.
[3:35:41] that was the first step in that
[3:35:44] process.
[3:35:45] the juvenile hall turns 20 this year
[3:35:48] in september, so it is a well lived
[3:35:50] building that's been around for a
[3:35:51] while.
[3:35:52] at the time it was one of the newer
[3:35:54] models of what people had hoped for
[3:35:57] detention in terms of the changes.
[3:35:58] this county also had an assessment
[3:36:00] center process where it evaluated
[3:36:03] young people to determine who needed
[3:36:04] to be in the facility and who didn't.
[3:36:06] I'm proud of the fact when I came in
[3:36:09] 2013, we focused on creating diversion
[3:36:13] programs.
[3:36:14] myself, educator, police chiefs and
[3:36:15] other folks in the community spent a
[3:36:17] week in georgetown to learn how to
[3:36:19] build a diversion program that was
[3:36:21] going to be multisystemic and
[3:36:24] multifunctional both outside of the
[3:36:25] system as well as in, as we created a
[3:36:29] cohort of divisions, many of which
[3:36:32] still today we are fortunate to fund a
[3:36:35] deputy probation officer who works
[3:36:36] out of the city of san mateo
[3:36:40] who provides diversion service outside in
[3:36:41] the community.
[3:36:43] also diversion is now offered in
[3:36:45] school settings, there was changes in
[3:36:47] discipline practices which also helped
[3:36:49] to reduce the number of young
[3:36:50] people in the facility.
[3:36:53] we married the emission criteria
[3:36:56] overtime.
[3:36:57] in the past when young people would
[3:36:58] make it to the hall for a variety of
[3:37:00] low level offences and sometimes
[3:37:01] parents who decided they want to
[3:37:04] teach their young person a lesson and
[3:37:06] drop them off for a weekend, we became
[3:37:08] strict in the criteria in turnover who
[3:37:10] could come into facility.
[3:37:12] focusing on those offenses that really
[3:37:14] were issues of public safety.
[3:37:17] and I have to say also too that this
[3:37:21] particular cause has oftentimes caused
[3:37:23] challenges between us and some of our
[3:37:26] local police department friends
[3:37:27] because they are frustrated by the
[3:37:28] fact we don't take more young people
[3:37:31] in, that we are very focused on only
[3:37:33] taking in the young people that
[3:37:36] we are statutorily mandated to so it
[3:37:42] does create fiction, my superintendent
[3:37:45] takes calls trying to negotiate how
[3:37:47] they can drop more people off and
[3:37:49] lastly we talked about the utilization
[3:37:51] of state funds for preventative
[3:37:53] activities, this county has
[3:37:55] always invested tens of millions of
[3:37:56] dollars in prevention.
[3:37:57] in many of your districts, you will
[3:37:59] find local programs at school based
[3:38:02] levels or community levels that are
[3:38:06] funded that are focused that young
[3:38:11] people don't become part of the system.
[3:38:13] you'll hear me today to refer to a lot
[3:38:16] of online materials you can look up,
[3:38:18] we have comprehensive reporters in the
[3:38:23] juvenile coordinating council report,
[3:38:26] those will outline the utilization of
[3:38:28] tens of millions of dollars focused in
[3:38:30] community settings and its schools and
[3:38:32] others to focus on ensuring that young
[3:38:34] people do not come into the system
[3:38:38] unnecessarily.
[3:38:40] and if you wouldn't mind, give me a
[3:38:46] second, I want to play this video, in
[3:38:48] terms of how the process works and
[3:38:50] coming into the facility.
[3:38:56] ( playing video ).
[3:38:57] >> what is the book, admission and
[3:38:58] classification process at the ysc, the
[3:39:01] san mateo county probation department
[3:39:03] has a legal and standardized process
[3:39:06] for receiving youth into the juvenile
[3:39:10] facility.
[3:39:11] the admittance of youth into the
[3:39:12] facility is conducted in a respectful,
[3:39:15] humane, trauma-sensitive and
[3:39:17] culturally cognizant manner.
[3:39:19] to start, the arresting agency is
[3:39:21] responsible for transporting the minor
[3:39:24] to the youth services center and
[3:39:25] provides the booking staff with the
[3:39:28] necessary arrest documents.
[3:39:31] this documentation is essential for
[3:39:33] smooth transfer process and ensures
[3:39:36] compliance with legal requirements.
[3:39:38] prior to admitting the youth,
[3:39:41] institution staff reviews the
[3:39:43] admissions paperwork and determine if
[3:39:44] the youth should be admitted.
[3:39:46] youth under the age of 12 years will
[3:39:49] not be accepted into custody unless
[3:39:52] there are allegations of murder or
[3:39:58] certain sexual assaults.
[3:39:59] upon admission, youth are read their
[3:40:00] miranda rights, admission staff
[3:40:02] inventories to youth's personal
[3:40:03] belongings and issues with basic
[3:40:08] clothing, bedding, hygiene items and
[3:40:10] offer food upon arrival.
[3:40:14] parents or guardians are informed via
[3:40:19] phone, they are allowed two calls
[3:40:22] within admittance unless physically
[3:40:27] impossible.
[3:40:28] housing classifications are determined
[3:40:30] by age, maturity, sophistication,
[3:40:32] emotional stability, program needs,
[3:40:35] public safety considerations,
[3:40:38] medical/mental health conversations,
[3:40:39] gender and gender identity of the
[3:40:41] youth.
[3:40:42] factors such as compatibility with
[3:40:45] other youth, size, non-association
[3:40:47] orders, protective custody orders
[3:40:50] and gang affiliation may also
[3:40:52] influence housing assignments.
[3:40:59] ( video complete ).
[3:41:03] >> I think it's important to emphasize
[3:41:06] that there's an actual legal process
[3:41:08] by which how we take young people in,
[3:41:10] so it's not this kind of willie nilly
[3:41:14] approach, I heard people say probation
[3:41:17] incarcerates kids, that's not our
[3:41:19] function, we don't go to the street
[3:41:21] and scoop kids off the street.
[3:41:23] there has to be probable cause for
[3:41:25] police departments to bring young
[3:41:26] people into the facility.
[3:41:27] what you have in front of you and I
[3:41:29] know it's small print so I would
[3:41:32] quickly say it really outlines the
[3:41:34] legal requirements for certain
[3:41:35] populations that have to be admitted
[3:41:36] into the hall so those individual
[3:41:41] situations that involve welfare and
[3:41:43] institutions code section 707b which
[3:41:46] are considered serious and violent
[3:41:48] felonies, those have to be taken into
[3:41:50] the facility but the police department
[3:41:54] on the street still have a mandate of
[3:41:56] having to make sure we have sufficient
[3:41:57] probable cause to bring beam into the
[3:41:59] space.
[3:42:00] we have our age restrictions, 12
[3:42:04] year-olds are -- we do not want to
[3:42:06] have in our space, it has to be
[3:42:08] specific situations.
[3:42:09] those warrants often times are run
[3:42:12] away warrant from other counties, we
[3:42:14] are mandated by law that if there is a
[3:42:16] run away warrant that's out there, we
[3:42:18] have to find a space for that young
[3:42:22] person, so that's one of the reason.
[3:42:24] 14 years or older who can be taken
[3:42:28] into custody, the use of a firearm,
[3:42:29] the commission of a felony, there's a
[3:42:32] laundry list of those offenses that
[3:42:35] fall under 707b.
[3:42:51] the current census of the population
[3:42:52] we currently have now, everyone in our
[3:42:55] facility now has at least one felony
[3:42:58] in addition to whatever additional
[3:43:01] misdemeanor charges they have.
[3:43:03] all the felonies are consistent with
[3:43:09] the state require, people both in and
[3:43:10] under that, there may be young people
[3:43:11] who have additional misdemeanor
[3:43:12] charges on top of the felonies but a
[3:43:13] a person is not going to be booked
[3:43:16] into our facility on a misdemeanor
[3:43:19] unless it involves serious violence or
[3:43:22] injury.
[3:43:23] if you look at our two yearbook
[3:43:24] information in front of you, we have
[3:43:26] focused on really ensuring that the
[3:43:28] young people we can get home, we send
[3:43:30] home back to their families, we have
[3:43:32] other alternatives like electronic
[3:43:35] monitoring of home, home detention
[3:43:37] where they're able to stay in their
[3:43:38] families and stay in those spaces.
[3:43:40] if you look at the total number of
[3:43:45] population compared to the number of
[3:43:47] bookings we have per year, you can see
[3:43:49] once again we keep smaller numbers of
[3:43:53] young people that make their way into
[3:43:56] our space.
[3:43:57] now the next part of this presentation
[3:43:59] is really one where it's important to
[3:44:02] once again level set the environment
[3:44:04] at the facility.
[3:44:06] it's not to villainize young people,
[3:44:09] it's not to try to attempt to moderate
[3:44:12] the staff and say they're doing work
[3:44:14] that others couldn't do or that
[3:44:17] somehow it affords them special
[3:44:18] treatment, it is to make it an
[3:44:22] affirmative statement about what
[3:44:23] exactly is versus what folks say is
[3:44:27] not.
[3:44:28] this environmental data is focused on
[3:44:29] some important issues, one, we look
[3:44:31] and see the staff injuries over the
[3:44:34] last five years, the attacks directly
[3:44:38] at staff over the last five years,
[3:44:40] youth on youth attacks, contraband
[3:44:43] incidents and our computer use
[3:44:46] violations, we'll talk about that because
[3:44:47] there's been a lot of conversation
[3:44:49] around us removing people's access to
[3:44:52] computers for no good reason, so the
[3:44:55] things I point out here is that when
[3:44:57] you see some of these attacks, these
[3:45:00] are targeted directly towards our
[3:45:02] staff.
[3:45:03] these are things where young people
[3:45:06] have unfortunately been courage --
[3:45:09] encouraged to say the people there are
[3:45:12] bad people or they don't have to
[3:45:17] listen to them, if they have something
[3:45:18] to say to you, they don't like, we'll
[3:45:19] take care of it.
[3:45:20] and those type of commentary has
[3:45:22] helped to create an environment which
[3:45:24] is less safe for our employees.
[3:45:33] I have never presented this
[3:45:34] information to the board before.
[3:45:36] we work with it and keep it
[3:45:37] moving because that's our task our
[3:45:40] incredible staff has taken on.
[3:45:41] the reality is that when it's
[3:45:43] referenced in a way to suggest that
[3:45:45] either we are bad people and
[3:45:47] potentially trying to hurt children or
[3:45:49] don't care about the kids we work
[3:45:51] with, our folks come and work in
[3:45:55] incredibly difficult situations and
[3:45:56] the last point I'll make about this is
[3:45:58] that if you look at the number of our
[3:46:02] population recently compared to what
[3:46:03] it was five years prior to covid where
[3:46:06] we were arching over the 100, 120
[3:46:09] youth, we averaged the same number of
[3:46:11] attacks and injuries to employees
[3:46:13] when we had four times, four times the
[3:46:16] number of young people in our facility.
[3:46:18] and this is data that is workers comp
[3:46:26] data that is easily attainable for the
[3:46:27] board, we have to keep those by state
[3:46:29] mandate.
[3:46:32] contraband.
[3:46:33] these are some of the items we found
[3:46:35] in our facility as we do searches.
[3:46:39] I have a binder that staff full of
[3:46:50] copies, instruments, sharpening
[3:46:52] screws, sharpened nails, shards of
[3:46:57] glass, marijuana, vape pens and
[3:47:02] medication that's been cheated to
[3:47:03] utilize to provide to other youth in
[3:47:05] the facility.
[3:47:06] so, when we talk about creating an
[3:47:09] environment that is rehabilitative and
[3:47:12] safe, these are some of the realities
[3:47:13] of what that looks like.
[3:47:15] so, once again, when there is this
[3:47:18] impression that we're only serving low
[3:47:21] level youth that are -- don't need to
[3:47:24] be in the facility and they're there
[3:47:27] because of some evil intention of the
[3:47:30] detention department or law
[3:47:32] enforcement, the facts don't measure
[3:47:36] up.
[3:47:39] there's also ban lot of conversation
[3:47:41] that somehow we work without any
[3:47:43] regulation and that no one's in
[3:47:45] control of us and we don't have any
[3:47:48] support from the state to provide
[3:47:52] structure, guidelines, training or any
[3:47:53] of that to our staff.
[3:47:55] the reality is our staff when they
[3:47:57] start their careers, they take almost
[3:48:01] 300 hours of training to initiate,
[3:48:03] additional hours within the
[3:48:07] facility and mandated training hours
[3:48:08] that have to be done every single
[3:48:10] year.
[3:48:11] we also have state regulatory
[3:48:14] oversight.
[3:48:15] the board of state and community
[3:48:17] corrections is california's
[3:48:20] independent agency overseeing adult
[3:48:24] and overall systems, they provide
[3:48:26] inspection in public safety grants,
[3:48:27] that is who we have to answer to, to
[3:48:30] ensure our facility can run.
[3:48:32] we also have support from advisory
[3:48:35] committees like the oycr and they
[3:48:44] have professionally trained
[3:48:47] inspectors, when issues arise, they
[3:48:49] work with counties to make sure
[3:48:52] corrective action plans are created.
[3:49:01] title 15 encompasses everything from
[3:49:03] staffing, program and abuse,
[3:49:05] allegations, food standards, education
[3:49:06] standards and medical standards just
[3:49:08] to say a few as well as title 24 which
[3:49:10] is the building standards which
[3:49:13] outline everything in the facility in
[3:49:15] terms of how it's put together.
[3:49:18] everything for how thick the bed can
[3:49:20] be, how far off the floor it can be,
[3:49:24] ada concerns, the way the building was
[3:49:26] built initially was built this this
[3:49:28] way under funding that was responsible
[3:49:30] for it.
[3:49:31] in the 13 years I've been your chief
[3:49:34] probation officer, we have failed
[3:49:36] inspections zero times.
[3:49:37] we have had correction actions zero
[3:49:42] times.
[3:49:43] we have certainly had our experiences
[3:49:44] during that time where the state has
[3:49:48] said, we'd like to see you do this
[3:49:50] better or we have advice on how you
[3:49:53] could do wetter training or we have
[3:49:55] advice on how you can write your
[3:49:58] policies different so they can be clear
[3:50:04] >> when we're here, we have never
[3:50:05] failed an inspection.
[3:50:06] cop pis of these inspects, ten years
[3:50:07] worth can be found on the website for
[3:50:09] people who want to go read.
[3:50:11] >> chief, I'm going to give you a
[3:50:13] time check.
[3:50:14] we're going to give you ten more
[3:50:17] minutes.
[3:50:18] >> I'll just say respectfully in
[3:50:19] protest, people who have taken shots
[3:50:22] for me have had far more time than
[3:50:24] that.
[3:50:25] >> that's true, I'm going to give
[3:50:26] you more time.
[3:50:27] >> thank you, ma'am, I appreciate it.
[3:50:37] thank you.
[3:50:38] next is the conversation around prea,
[3:50:41] I'll speed up here a little bit.
[3:50:42] there's a lot of conversation why
[3:50:44] we're not compliant with prea.
[3:50:48] prea is the focus on eradicating
[3:50:52] prison and detainee rape of all times
[3:50:54] and institutions around the country.
[3:50:55] the department of justice has a very
[3:50:57] distinct set of categories in which
[3:50:59] they determine whether you are
[3:51:01] compliant with the goals of prea and
[3:51:04] the legislation associated thereto.
[3:51:06] in front of you, you have what are the
[3:51:09] general themes that encompass the
[3:51:11] entire legislation itself.
[3:51:13] most notably at the top is zero
[3:51:15] tolerance policy for abuse of any kind
[3:51:17] along with additional issues around
[3:51:21] training, medical, reporting and
[3:51:22] investigation to say a few.
[3:51:26] the reality is that the probation
[3:51:28] department has been and is
[3:51:30] substantially aligned with the federal
[3:51:33] standards of prea, all the theme that
[3:51:34] is are in prea are covered by our
[3:51:37] current department prea policy.
[3:51:38] you can find this prea policy on our
[3:51:42] website, it is the prison rape elimination
[3:51:44] act tab and under that, you can tab it
[3:51:47] and hate our policy, it has
[3:51:49] instructions for parents who want to
[3:51:52] reach out to express concerns, we have
[3:51:57] an additional interactive launch item
[3:51:59] for services for individuals and
[3:52:02] employees who may need support in this
[3:52:04] area and it also shows at the end of
[3:52:06] the day, we are abiding by all the
[3:52:09] regulations that title 15 has.
[3:52:13] in my research around this because
[3:52:15] it's been a concerning issue
[3:52:16] concerning a lot of the allegations
[3:52:19] that have surrounded our county and
[3:52:21] our area, what I found was startling
[3:52:25] which is no one in the state of
[3:52:26] california is in compliance with
[3:52:29] prea.
[3:52:30] compliance requires two primary
[3:52:32] additional issues which is one, an
[3:52:34] auditor who comes in and provides
[3:52:36] auditing of your policies and
[3:52:39] standards, that's one we don't have,
[3:52:40] so when I say we're not in compliance,
[3:52:42] it's not that I don't care about
[3:52:46] keeping people safe, as I started off,
[3:52:48] words matter.
[3:52:49] we're not in compliance because we
[3:52:50] don't have auditors.
[3:52:52] a quick check of the auditor page on
[3:52:55] there for auditor search, there is not
[3:52:58] a certified auditor within 200 miles
[3:53:00] of san mateo county.
[3:53:01] I searched.
[3:53:04] the only two that are listed on the
[3:53:07] website are two folks whose audits --
[3:53:13] the auditor certificates had expired
[3:53:14] three years ago, the only current
[3:53:16] auditors that exist are in la county
[3:53:18] that I could find at this point.
[3:53:20] the second part for state
[3:53:22] certification is what's called a
[3:53:25] governor certification where the state
[3:53:28] has to certify that it is going to
[3:53:30] 100% certify that every area that
[3:53:33] complied and will follow the rules of
[3:53:35] prea.
[3:53:36] we haven't done that and we haven't
[3:53:37] done that since this stated in 2014 in
[3:53:39] terms of compliance checks.
[3:53:41] what exists is what's called an
[3:53:43] insurance declaration.
[3:53:46] it simply says we're going to do our
[3:53:48] best to try to make sure most people
[3:53:51] in the state have the elements of prea
[3:53:55] in their functioning.
[3:53:57] however, a strict letter of the law,
[3:53:59] unless you have everything, you have
[3:54:03] nothing.
[3:54:05] our meals and diet, we have partners
[3:54:09] who will talk about the diet and
[3:54:10] meals, the individuals who do the
[3:54:12] work, we're pleased to work the
[3:54:17] sheriff's office and correctional in
[3:54:18] relation to this, they are supported by
[3:54:21] dietitians, health professionals and
[3:54:22] individualized for each youth's needs,
[3:54:25] they're aligned with usda standards
[3:54:28] for meals and we have 30 plus youth
[3:54:30] in the facility, our staff or their
[3:54:33] staff are managing over 80 separate
[3:54:36] diets for young people.
[3:54:39] that includes everything from medical needs,
[3:54:41] religious concerns as well as calorie
[3:54:45] intake.
[3:54:46] youth services center is almost 20
[3:54:47] years old, it is a lived in building
[3:54:50] but these pictures are taken within
[3:54:52] the last recent months and it is not
[3:54:54] necessarily a space where I would say
[3:54:56] it's death trap or horrible place for
[3:54:58] people to be.
[3:55:00] we recognize the importance of
[3:55:04] bringing arts into our space, in
[3:55:06] collaboration with the sheriff's
[3:55:07] activity league and working with our
[3:55:13] youth, they have painted murals
[3:55:14] throughout the facility that this have
[3:55:15] participated in to do certain things.
[3:55:17] the arts commission has been a great
[3:55:19] partner in this and I thank
[3:55:22] supervisor canepa who made that
[3:55:23] connection between us and them.
[3:55:25] we've been able to do that work and
[3:55:28] have positive outcomes and create
[3:55:30] unique opportunities for young people
[3:55:31] in this space.
[3:55:32] what you see in front of you is
[3:55:33] another space that the young people
[3:55:36] participate in which is a multisensory
[3:55:41] de-escalation room, they need a quiet
[3:55:43] space to go to.
[3:55:44] this was a thing where everybody
[3:55:48] participated, even myself did participate
[3:55:50] in that space because we wanted
[3:55:52] young people to see that we valued
[3:55:54] them and cared about their long term
[3:55:59] goals.
[3:56:01] here's our community mural outside
[3:56:03] which once again is a demonstration of
[3:56:05] our commitment to the arts because we
[3:56:07] recognize art is an important part of
[3:56:09] rehabilitation.
[3:56:10] the it was really about providing the
[3:56:11] young people with something as an
[3:56:13] inspiration to help focus them on the
[3:56:15] time that's to come because we really
[3:56:22] stressed to them that you are not your
[3:56:23] current environment, your current
[3:56:24] situation, there's more positive
[3:56:27] things to come.
[3:56:28] we do family nights, we have
[3:56:30] graduation activities and we're proud
[3:56:32] of the activities of our school
[3:56:33] programs and the work they have done,
[3:56:35] the young people that have graduated
[3:56:37] from high school with us, the young
[3:56:40] people that have graduated high school
[3:56:41] with us, it is a -- college with us,
[3:56:47] we have movies, we have everything we
[3:56:50] do to provide alternatives and we do
[3:56:54] include additional food on top of what
[3:56:57] is provided by correctional health in
[3:57:01] those activities.
[3:57:02] often time there's concern about
[3:57:04] programs in our space.
[3:57:05] we have a robust program system.
[3:57:08] honestly there's not enough hours in
[3:57:10] the day for all the programs that
[3:57:11] are here.
[3:57:12] this board has been generous over the
[3:57:14] years your support of programming in
[3:57:15] our space, just a few months ago, you
[3:57:17] approved a historic amount of
[3:57:19] programming for the institutions.
[3:57:22] and that program -- those programs
[3:57:24] are also both internal programs and as
[3:57:26] well as programs that are out in the
[3:57:28] community.
[3:57:29] these are just some of the programs
[3:57:30] that most recently you approved.
[3:57:33] high light core, we heard from a young
[3:57:36] man yesterday who specifically called
[3:57:37] out core as a program that was
[3:57:39] important to him, that was teaching
[3:57:41] him how to engage in positive
[3:57:44] relationships and connecting with
[3:57:45] people and supervisor corzo, that was
[3:57:47] your brain child, thank you for that.
[3:57:49] and this are just reminders with other
[3:57:52] contracts you also recently provided
[3:57:55] to provide services in our space.
[3:58:02] technology, we have done our best over
[3:58:05] the years to try to provide technology
[3:58:08] opportunities for young people and it
[3:58:10] is morphed over the years, when I
[3:58:11] first started in 2013, we had a
[3:58:13] couple of computers facing the wall
[3:58:15] and that was it and the early stages
[3:58:18] of our project change which I'll talk
[3:58:23] about, we had kids westbound off one
[3:58:26] or two desk top monitors.
[3:58:28] we have committed to providing
[3:58:29] opportunities for young people, there
[3:58:31] are desk tops that every young person
[3:58:34] whether it's in school has access to.
[3:58:35] we work closely with the school
[3:58:37] department, they have their own it
[3:58:38] department, we have ours, they work in
[3:58:40] collaboration to do that work, there
[3:58:42] are desk tops accessible for them to
[3:58:46] utilize, the laptops are for the young
[3:58:48] people in college, they have their
[3:58:50] individualized laptops to help them do
[3:58:51] the work they're doing.
[3:58:53] we are proud of our orijin tablets,
[3:58:57] that gives them educational
[3:59:01] opportunities but they also have the
[3:59:03] ability to make phone calls and
[3:59:05] video calls to their families from
[3:59:06] this tablet.
[3:59:07] one of the most interesting things
[3:59:10] last night we discovered, the young
[3:59:12] people were disappointed that the
[3:59:14] movies don't roll around fast enough,
[3:59:16] they don't have access to r-rated
[3:59:20] movies, they were frustrated they
[3:59:22] were watching the same movies over
[3:59:24] again but the tablets have created a
[3:59:27] new way for the young people to look
[3:59:28] at things as well as get additional
[3:59:31] certifications, education, as well as
[3:59:34] therapeutic opportunities around drug
[3:59:35] and alcohol consideration.
[3:59:39] we've upgraded our wi-fi access
[3:59:41] points throughout the facility to
[3:59:42] provide a better stability who have
[3:59:44] access to these systems.
[3:59:46] they love their games so we commit to
[3:59:49] purchasing play station and x-box
[3:59:52] games for youth to be able to utilize.
[3:59:53] a lot of that, the systems themselves
[3:59:56] were donated by outside people,
[3:59:58] we've helped support and
[4:00:00] maintain those to acquiring additional
[4:00:03] services and coming soon, we're going
[4:00:06] to have our vr equipment, our provider
[4:00:10] will be providing additional support
[4:00:12] with virtual reality to help with the
[4:00:15] teaching of skills for cte, they're
[4:00:16] going to do a lot of incredible things
[4:00:20] through a virtual space.
[4:00:22] this is just some of orijin's
[4:00:26] education and communication
[4:00:27] technology, we see all of the
[4:00:29] different things youth have been
[4:00:30] accessing in the last 12 month period.
[4:00:33] during that time, we've made over 46
[4:00:35] thousand calls from the tablet space,
[4:00:38] 19 thousand of those calls have been
[4:00:39] connected and on average the calluses
[4:00:42] are going about 15 minutes a piece.
[4:00:45] here are some of the learning
[4:00:47] materials that are inside orijin and
[4:00:51] some great opportunities for young
[4:00:52] people the gain additional support on
[4:00:55] top of all of the services you have
[4:00:58] graciously approved.
[4:01:01] the technology -- the ysc is a 20 year
[4:01:04] old build, we have worked to upgrade
[4:01:05] that material.
[4:01:08] we use a senso program which monitors
[4:01:14] our computer use.
[4:01:15] it allows us to know when our young
[4:01:16] people have violated our computer use
[4:01:18] policy, they've gone to a prohibited
[4:01:23] site that are sexual or violent in
[4:01:25] nature, they have contacted victims
[4:01:27] that they have victimized, they are
[4:01:31] gang banging on social media, other
[4:01:34] things that are prohibited
[4:01:42] activities.
[4:01:43] they find ways around our system all
[4:01:45] the time, we have had to reboot and
[4:01:47] reassess and figure out other ways to
[4:01:51] assess that.
[4:01:53] supporting a safe environment, we've
[4:01:56] instituted body cams in our stashing,
[4:01:58] that body cam program, we're having
[4:02:03] some technology issues, it's getting
[4:02:04] warm on our staff's chest while
[4:02:07] they're wearing them, we're having
[4:02:09] those batteries expense so we don't
[4:02:11] have workers comp issues with that
[4:02:12] and they'll be redeploy that.
[4:02:15] we've upgraded our live scan machine
[4:02:18] which is our fingerprinting machine,
[4:02:19] we added a mobile version of that,
[4:02:21] sometimes it can be difficult and
[4:02:23] challenging for young people having
[4:02:25] negative experiences at entry so, we
[4:02:27] can go to them and it makes that part
[4:02:29] of it a little safer and less
[4:02:31] stressful for when they're getting
[4:02:35] checked in.
[4:02:39] we have contraband pictures that are
[4:02:41] shown, we've come across more activities
[4:02:42] and more things so we've needed
[4:02:44] access to that.
[4:02:45] and also the body scab, body scan, I
[4:02:47] want to talk to you quickly because
[4:02:49] it's an important addition to our
[4:02:51] space.
[4:02:52] we recognize that searching youth,
[4:02:53] strip searching youth is something
[4:02:54] people are not in favor of, however,
[4:02:57] the law allows for it in very specific
[4:03:00] circumstances, we only do it in those
[4:03:02] specific circumstances.
[4:03:04] we have written materials that show
[4:03:05] when we do it.
[4:03:08] our preferred way of doing things is
[4:03:10] to utilize the body scanner, it's a
[4:03:16] less invasive process, the machine is
[4:03:18] more evasive than physically getting
[4:03:21] nude because it goes very much in
[4:03:23] terms of knowing what you have if on
[4:03:24] your person, but it's safer way to do
[4:03:27] things, less intrusive way for young
[4:03:29] people and we should understand the
[4:03:33] public's concern about what was being
[4:03:35] characterized as an illegal strip
[4:03:37] search, it is not, it is a strip
[4:03:40] search folks didn't care for but we
[4:03:42] had a valid reason for doing so, it
[4:03:43] was a health and safety reason that
[4:03:45] would have impacted the entire
[4:03:50] facility.
[4:03:51] additional upgrades to wi-fi, upgrades
[4:03:53] to our cctv, this is an important part
[4:03:56] of -- for us as we try to have an
[4:03:58] environment that is safe and is void
[4:04:01] of any type of illegal sexual activity
[4:04:05] or negative behavior so we have
[4:04:07] upgraded our systems to ensure that
[4:04:09] not only can we keep recordings but
[4:04:11] it's backed fup we lose power and we
[4:04:13] have access to things for long term.
[4:04:15] lastly we've put in under the door
[4:04:18] cameras which are important and I
[4:04:19] should say back to the cameras,
[4:04:22] they're not in personal spaces,
[4:04:24] they're not in the showers, they're
[4:04:26] not the restrooms or not in places to
[4:04:28] in any way negatively impact young
[4:04:30] people and invade their policy.
[4:04:32] they're in public spaces but they're
[4:04:34] outside of buildings where any time
[4:04:36] you move in our facility, we can see
[4:04:40] you, so the reason why those cameras
[4:04:43] exist are to support that.
[4:04:47] lastly under the door cameras are
[4:04:48] important because some of our young
[4:04:53] people have covered their doors so we
[4:04:55] can't see what's going on inside.
[4:04:57] when we have to go inside, they have
[4:05:03] jimmy rigged the floors where our
[4:05:05] staff have slipped and fallen trying
[4:05:06] to go in.
[4:05:07] this is important to allow us
[4:05:08] opportunity to see what's happening in
[4:05:09] the rooms for safety reasons.
[4:05:11] project change is one of the programs
[4:05:13] we are most proud of.
[4:05:14] it is an award winning program, san
[4:05:19] mateo county is the model, the very
[4:05:22] first one for this type of educational
[4:05:25] programs and college spaces around the
[4:05:28] state.
[4:05:29] in 2013, I utilized my own funds to
[4:05:31] help support the creation of the this
[4:05:33] program.
[4:05:34] along with the work our project change
[4:05:36] partners worked for, they were
[4:05:38] instrumental in really working with us
[4:05:40] and not losing faith early on, so we
[4:05:43] had really good incremental growth to
[4:05:45] where we are today where we have
[4:05:47] multiple young people that are
[4:05:49] graduating college, getting multiple
[4:05:52] degrees while they're in custody
[4:05:53] with us and going on to hopefully four
[4:05:55] year colleges.
[4:05:56] we also have a cte program that we are
[4:05:58] proud of.
[4:06:00] this new program is california a-g
[4:06:05] approved in terms of the credits, so
[4:06:07] those 15 credits are young people need
[4:06:09] to consider college here in
[4:06:10] california, it's focused on
[4:06:15] getting mastery training in college,
[4:06:18] so stem related careers, trades
[4:06:21] careers, culinary, engineering, design
[4:06:23] and transportation, these are
[4:06:24] important for our young people who may
[4:06:25] not all be focused on this idea of
[4:06:28] going to college.
[4:06:31] where's probation's data?
[4:06:32] another comment that we don't have any
[4:06:34] data, where's our data at.
[4:06:35] our data can be found in several
[4:06:38] websites across the net.
[4:06:40] our probation department website has a
[4:06:42] a data dashboard that has our
[4:06:44] information, our local action plan is
[4:06:46] there, our local action plan is the
[4:06:48] plan that helps determine how we
[4:06:50] utilize services, how the money is
[4:06:51] spent and how we demonstrate our value
[4:06:54] system as a county in terms of what
[4:06:56] our investments are in and/or
[4:06:59] evaluations of our contract to
[4:07:00] providers, so these evaluations are
[4:07:03] done by an outside entity, a third
[4:07:05] party entity who helps support us in
[4:07:08] those annual reports.
[4:07:10] as I mentioned earlier, the bscc,
[4:07:14] there's juvenile hall population date
[4:07:16] that that's based on offense level and
[4:07:18] adjudication as well as those reports
[4:07:21] I mentioned earlier that we have done
[4:07:22] in terms of our inspection.
[4:07:26] two probation officers in california,
[4:07:28] we have a public facing dashboard there
[4:07:32] that has all access to all of our
[4:07:35] information.
[4:07:36] the office of youth and community
[4:07:40] restoration, ofcr, has information
[4:07:42] about our treatment facility and the
[4:07:45] program thereto, we have to submit an
[4:07:47] annual plan to utilize and
[4:07:49] operationalize the funds that come
[4:07:52] from it and san mateo county open data
[4:07:54] is where you can find information
[4:07:56] about our budgets, how we spend our
[4:07:58] money and things of that nature.
[4:08:01] lastly in the space to come, we have a
[4:08:02] few things on the horizon, one, we're
[4:08:05] going to be working collaboratively with
[4:08:09] john fong at child welfare to create a
[4:08:13] program where we can assist them with
[4:08:16] housing funds and funds that they can
[4:08:18] utilize that help support those next
[4:08:20] steps when they leave.
[4:08:21] that program is going to be working
[4:08:24] through the guaranteed income program
[4:08:25] they run so we're going to find a way
[4:08:29] to operationalize money transfer
[4:08:30] between the two if necessary to ensure
[4:08:32] those young people who are qualified
[4:08:35] for it will get access to it.
[4:08:37] secondly, we hope to work with the
[4:08:39] board as well as procurement to look
[4:08:42] at potentially some type of modified
[4:08:45] procurement process for some the
[4:08:46] services we need at the facility.
[4:08:49] that process is difficult and causes a
[4:08:51] lot of consternation with the
[4:08:54] population with the community and is
[4:08:56] creating tension and stress in terms
[4:08:58] of how we operationalize court orders
[4:09:00] to I think there's a need for us to
[4:09:02] look at that.
[4:09:03] also I'm proud to say that we
[4:09:06] acknowledge that we could do better
[4:09:11] with our prea phone system, so I'm in
[4:09:14] decisions with jn fong to see if we
[4:09:17] can utilize an outside service for the
[4:09:21] 800 number, it is monitored by our
[4:09:23] staff and we think we can did do
[4:09:26] better with that.
[4:09:27] we will be working to see if have 24
[4:09:30] hour services so we're trying to see
[4:09:32] if there's legal ways we can
[4:09:35] operationalize it through that process.
[4:09:37] lastly, we are going to be doing a 20
[4:09:40] year acknowledgment of the building
[4:09:43] itself, the beginning of the opening
[4:09:46] of the juvenile hall, what I'm going
[4:09:48] to propose to do because a lot of what
[4:09:49] has been said in the public is because
[4:09:52] the public has not had a chance to see
[4:09:54] our hall.
[4:09:55] because of the way things are done,
[4:09:57] it's just difficult for people to
[4:09:59] randomly come and show up and be
[4:10:00] walked around.
[4:10:01] so I'm proposing that we do an open
[4:10:04] house that is commensurate with the 20
[4:10:06] year opening of the facility.
[4:10:08] that way we can invite the public to
[4:10:10] come in and see the facility, go
[4:10:13] through the process, go through those
[4:10:14] things so they can see themselves.
[4:10:17] the reality is I know no young person
[4:10:19] wants to be in the facility.
[4:10:21] we don't kid ourselves into thinking
[4:10:23] that's the case, but I'm proud of the
[4:10:25] work we do, the way we do it and how
[4:10:28] we approach trying to be thought
[4:10:30] partners and advocates for youth as
[4:10:32] we are.
[4:10:34] our advocacy looks different from
[4:10:35] others but we are advocates
[4:10:38] nonetheless.
[4:10:39] I will cede the rest of my time.
[4:10:40] I have one last slide I hope to get
[4:10:43] back to later, I can cede my time.
[4:10:45] we are fortunate to have partners
[4:10:47] here today that help us do the work
[4:10:49] and we have some of our partner from
[4:10:51] correctional health and behavioral
[4:10:53] health, I'm not sure who wants to go
[4:10:55] first.
[4:10:56] dr. Africa is going to come up and
[4:10:59] present.
[4:11:00] >> thank you, chief keene, and I'll
[4:11:01] just briefly say that I love the idea
[4:11:04] of an open house and one of my
[4:11:09] favorite murals wasn't pictured, it's
[4:11:11] one with a lot of humming birds and
[4:11:14] it's one of the newest ones and it's
[4:11:18] beautiful.
[4:11:19] so, I welcome dr. Africa and then I
[4:11:20] think we have michael and hector and
[4:11:27] derga next.
[4:11:28] >> good afternoon, again, board of
[4:11:30] supervisor, I'm here with my
[4:11:34] colleague, mike who, is the director
[4:11:36] of health services, we'll take a few
[4:11:38] minutes to talk about behavioral
[4:11:44] health services at the ysc and also
[4:11:45] correctional health services.
[4:11:46] so, before I go, I want to just
[4:11:49] acknowledge that picture that you see
[4:11:51] there is the adjacent land of the
[4:11:55] phoenix garden which I will be talking
[4:11:56] about in a little bit.
[4:11:58] we have been really grateful to have
[4:12:01] the opportunity to provide support to
[4:12:03] young people.
[4:12:04] I will talk about the mental health
[4:12:08] services, substance use services, in
[4:12:10] terms of our clients, as chief keene
[4:12:13] said, the clients over the years have
[4:12:16] decreased.
[4:12:17] the young people in custody, so you
[4:12:18] can see on the top left, we're about
[4:12:22] 2018 to 2019, we were seeing
[4:12:26] unduplicated about over 300 youth and
[4:12:28] now we're probably seeing half of that.
[4:12:31] we have 9 staff that provide a variety
[4:12:35] of services for youth who are in
[4:12:38] custody.
[4:12:39] we have therapists, we have case
[4:12:40] managers, we have psychologists,
[4:12:43] psychiatrists just in case they need
[4:12:46] medication support and also peer and
[4:12:50] is family partners who have lived
[4:12:52] experience navigating the system.
[4:12:53] in the bottom part, I wanted to give
[4:12:55] you a sense of how engaged we are with
[4:13:00] the young people, so in the data, we
[4:13:02] divided it into three sections.
[4:13:05] one, we called it the general
[4:13:08] population, so we don't know how long
[4:13:10] the young people will be there but we
[4:13:14] average about 29 days of service, if they
[4:13:18] leave earlier, we won't have that much
[4:13:20] time.
[4:13:21] in terms of community based services,
[4:13:24] when a young person leaves the ysc, we
[4:13:27] still are able to provide community
[4:13:29] based services to them because
[4:13:32] sometimes they need additional support
[4:13:34] as they transition back to the
[4:13:35] community.
[4:13:36] and in the third kinds of supports
[4:13:39] that we have is we connect a therapist
[4:13:44] individually case by case with a youth
[4:13:47] in custody, also when they leave, so
[4:13:50] chief keene talked about the soarr
[4:13:52] program, in our engagement with that
[4:13:55] young person until about 25 is up to
[4:13:57] about one year.
[4:13:59] so, again, our efforts is to engage
[4:14:01] them, continue working with them so
[4:14:03] that they continue to succeed being in
[4:14:06] the community or exceed in their
[4:14:10] rehabilitation.
[4:14:11] so, again, our services are anchored
[4:14:13] in trauma or trauma informed and
[4:14:17] culturally responsive services, not
[4:14:18] just in terms of language but really
[4:14:20] understanding the cultures and the
[4:14:23] environment that our young people have
[4:14:24] grown up with.
[4:14:26] we use evidence based practices,
[4:14:29] cognitive behavioral therapy helps
[4:14:31] change people's perceptions and their
[4:14:36] thinking.
[4:14:37] behavioral therapy giving them a sense
[4:14:38] of self-regulation.
[4:14:39] many of these people have a lot of
[4:14:41] trauma and have a lot of chaos in
[4:14:43] their lives, so we try very hard.
[4:14:45] while we are working with them to try
[4:14:47] to give them sort of a sense of skills
[4:14:51] and opportunity to think about the
[4:14:53] things that they have experienced.
[4:15:00] our work needs to be coordinated with
[4:15:02] many efforts, you see our colleagues
[4:15:05] from probation but also our community
[4:15:09] partners.
[4:15:10] I have to say once a probation staff
[4:15:13] refers entry to behavioral health is a
[4:15:15] referral from our custody or probation
[4:15:18] staff, so once our po's refer a young
[4:15:22] person, we do an intake, we do a
[4:15:25] screening, we try to understand
[4:15:26] what their perspective is, what their
[4:15:28] experience is, what their need is and
[4:15:31] based from that, we spend time kind of
[4:15:33] linking them to ss services.
[4:15:36] we provide individual therapy, group
[4:15:39] therapy, family therapy, we invite
[4:15:41] their parents or their caregivers to
[4:15:43] participate in some of the sessions
[4:15:45] because we know their caregivers are
[4:15:47] also part of their recovery.
[4:15:49] we do a lot of care coordination, we
[4:15:52] provide 24/7 crisis support.
[4:15:55] we -- when it's needed, we provide
[4:15:58] medication management and then also in
[4:16:01] certain cases when it's needed, we do
[4:16:05] psychological assessments, you know,
[4:16:07] if they need higher level of service,
[4:16:10] if we try to understand their thinking
[4:16:13] or their personality, we do cognitive
[4:16:16] testing or personality destining in
[4:16:18] augmentation through the therapy they
[4:16:21] receive.
[4:16:25] last one, the phoenix garden is the
[4:16:27] six acre land adjacent to ysc, instead
[4:16:30] of seeing that as being connected to
[4:16:33] nature, we use it as an opportunity to
[4:16:35] provide healing and connection with
[4:16:36] the community with young people who
[4:16:38] are attached to the ysc to kind of be
[4:16:41] around nature and talk to other
[4:16:43] folks, other community members so as
[4:16:45] part of their entry to community and
[4:16:47] I'll just say that's one of the
[4:16:49] features that one of our people love.
[4:16:52] many of them are not connected to
[4:16:54] nature.
[4:16:55] many of them don't understand food
[4:16:57] production or bee keeping or
[4:17:01] horticulture and hopefully that can
[4:17:03] change or impact their lives, not
[4:17:05] focusing on their crime or being in
[4:17:07] custody but out in the community and
[4:17:08] again one of the things we are working
[4:17:11] that's new due to calaim is real will
[4:17:14] you a much stronger relationship in
[4:17:18] helping young people in custody and
[4:17:19] then when they go out as they
[4:17:22] transition back to the community, they
[4:17:24] link them to appropriate services.
[4:17:26] so, we are also doing that in the
[4:17:29] adult side at mcguire and the jail,
[4:17:32] we're trying to do that more in
[4:17:34] probation, so again, we really operate
[4:17:37] in partnership with chief keene and
[4:17:39] his staff and are grateful to provide
[4:17:43] these services for young people to
[4:17:45] heal and continued on to their
[4:17:48] recovery.
[4:17:49] now I'm going to turn it over to mike
[4:17:51] to talk about medical services.
[4:17:52] >> welcome.
[4:17:56] >> good afternoon, president corzo,
[4:17:59] board of supervisors, community
[4:18:00] members, my name cease mick del
[4:18:03] rosario, the director for mental --
[4:18:10] medical health services.
[4:18:11] medical care start from the time the
[4:18:13] youth enters our facility, we address
[4:18:16] whatever medical conditions or health
[4:18:18] care needs they have and initial
[4:18:21] screening is done as soon as they come
[4:18:23] in.
[4:18:24] our partners in probation will do an
[4:18:25] initial screening and then our
[4:18:28] registered nurses will do a complete
[4:18:30] medical screening as soon as possible.
[4:18:33] during that time, acute and chronic
[4:18:36] illnesses are identified, we look at
[4:18:39] for any communicable diseases, if they
[4:18:41] have substance abuse history, you
[4:18:42] know, we want to make sure those are a
[4:18:44] I dressed early on and we do an
[4:18:48] initial mental health assessment, we
[4:18:49] do 96 hours of coming into our
[4:18:52] facility, health and screening, that
[4:18:56] will include doing vital signs,
[4:18:59] pregnancy testing and visual and
[4:19:03] hearing sense.
[4:19:05] the probation staff, I just want to
[4:19:07] highlight, really placed an important
[4:19:09] role in early identification of a
[4:19:11] patient's mental health condition,
[4:19:13] they will alert if they see any
[4:19:15] abnormal conditions.
[4:19:16] all youth are seen by our nurse
[4:19:19] practitioner for a wellness exam
[4:19:21] within one week of arrival.
[4:19:24] our calls are conducted daily by
[4:19:26] registered nurses for any medical
[4:19:29] requests the youth might request.
[4:19:31] if any after hours support is needed,
[4:19:33] we utilize the san mateo medical
[4:19:36] center for consultation but for any
[4:19:42] medical condition, our nurse
[4:19:44] practitioners will address any acute
[4:19:48] or chronic conditions.
[4:19:51] specialty care services are offered
[4:19:52] for all our youth, if they require
[4:19:56] more specialized services, we utilize
[4:19:58] the san mateo medical center specialty
[4:20:02] clinics for any in-person visits or
[4:20:08] telehealth consultations, and if they
[4:20:12] need any surrounding hospitals, the if
[4:20:13] they need those services, we will
[4:20:15] refer them to those places.
[4:20:16] if a youth comes in and they need to
[4:20:19] have their braces managed, an
[4:20:23] orthodontic referral will also be made.
[4:20:27] our optometrist services, we will
[4:20:30] refer them to san mateo medical
[4:20:32] center, once we have the prescription
[4:20:34] for the eyeglasses, they will
[4:20:38] purchase eyeglasses for the youth.
[4:20:40] we also offer laboratory and radiology
[4:20:43] services.
[4:20:44] we do pregnancy testing early on,
[4:20:46] universal testing is offered to all
[4:20:48] our youth which we screen for
[4:20:55] chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis.
[4:20:56] when our youth are seen from the
[4:20:59] providers, they are ordered routine
[4:21:01] blood work.
[4:21:02] when we do chest x-rays or imaging,
[4:21:06] those are done at our san mateo
[4:21:11] medical care facilities.
[4:21:13] dental services are offered to all our
[4:21:14] youth, as soon as they come in, they
[4:21:17] are scheduled to see a dentist within
[4:21:20] 30 days.
[4:21:21] if they happen to stay six months,
[4:21:24] they are automatically scheduled for a
[4:21:26] a follow-up exam in 6 months.
[4:21:29] routine dental care provided routine
[4:21:34] dental care, if they need a root
[4:21:39] canal, we'd provide that as well.
[4:21:41] for those like a wisdom tooth, we have
[4:21:44] an oral surgeon that can come in to
[4:21:47] our facility, they will take care of
[4:21:49] those type of complicated extractions.
[4:21:51] for more urgent visitors, we will
[4:21:54] defer them to our county partner and
[4:21:56] is county health for dental services.
[4:22:00] as our overall goal of providing
[4:22:03] comprehensive health care to our youth,
[4:22:07] we provide a lot of health edge kaix,
[4:22:10] we will do topics like drugs and
[4:22:15] alcohol, contraception, dental health,
[4:22:18] health care, any other topics the
[4:22:19] youth finds interesting or wants to
[4:22:20] know more ab.
[4:22:23] annual flu vaccinations are offered,
[4:22:24] usually around the fall season right
[4:22:27] before the flu season starts, we offer
[4:22:30] flu vaccines to all our kids.
[4:22:32] immunize ize -- immunizations, our
[4:22:36] team will look at patient records and
[4:22:38] identify if they're missing any
[4:22:42] immunizations, if they're behind on any of
[4:22:44] their shots, our team will provide
[4:22:45] that as well.
[4:22:47] our dietitian will be on-site to
[4:22:49] manage any special dietary needs, if
[4:22:52] they require medical diets, we
[4:22:54] can have a dietitian that can consult
[4:22:56] with them, lose weight, gain weight,
[4:22:58] we have a specialized program for that.
[4:23:04] and discharge planning is important to
[4:23:05] us to make sure we can transition the
[4:23:07] youth into the community so we provide
[4:23:11] the discharge medications upon 30 days
[4:23:13] of medication upon release and provide
[4:23:15] them with the prescription or we call
[4:23:18] into the pharmacy to make sure they
[4:23:21] never run out of meads until they get
[4:23:23] a chance to go to their doctors after
[4:23:27] release.
[4:23:29] that's part of the health we provided
[4:23:32] to them will be provided to the
[4:23:34] community.
[4:23:35] thank you.
[4:23:38] >> thank you, we have I believe folks
[4:23:46] from nutrition and our dietitian up
[4:23:50] next and as well as our sheriff's
[4:23:51] office.
[4:23:52] >> good afternoon, board members and
[4:23:53] the public.
[4:23:54] >> we also have a lieutenant as well,
[4:23:56] I don't know who wants to start here.
[4:23:59] go ahead, however you want to do it.
[4:24:00] >> good afternoon, captain ben hand
[4:24:03] with the sheriff's office, I'm the
[4:24:06] facility commander --
[4:24:07] >> captain?
[4:24:08] >> I'm the facility commander for the
[4:24:11] maple street correctional center where
[4:24:12] we are have our food services through
[4:24:15] the sheriff's office, I'm going allow
[4:24:17] -- this is durga namburu and this is
[4:24:26] hector soto to share how [inaudible]
[4:24:31] and denise chu is here from
[4:24:36] [inaudible]
[4:24:37] >> and is that a lieutenant behind you
[4:24:38] as well.
[4:24:39] I knew there was a lieutenant
[4:24:41] somewhere.
[4:24:42] >> greetings.
[4:24:43] >> go ahead, durga,.
[4:24:44] >> good afternoon, everyone.
[4:24:47] so, we're going to cover --
[4:24:50] >> and also after this, we're going to
[4:24:52] do a time check, I know we have a
[4:24:55] judge waiting and I would love if
[4:24:57] someone can connect with her and make
[4:24:59] sure -- my gosh, I'm sorry, okay, you
[4:25:03] see, you're smart, that's why you're
[4:25:06] the judge, okay.
[4:25:07] >> okay.
[4:25:10] we're going to cover all food services
[4:25:16] for youth center and what youth are
[4:25:21] served each day.
[4:25:24] and we control food safety and our
[4:25:27] services are just evolved.
[4:25:29] coming to our operations and daily
[4:25:32] delivery for the meals.
[4:25:34] san mateo county service office for
[4:25:37] the nutrition services provide meals
[4:25:39] for ysc to contract with probation
[4:25:43] department.
[4:25:44] meals are planned and prepared through
[4:25:47] food service operations, all the meals
[4:25:49] are transported to the ysc with all
[4:25:52] the food safety procedures.
[4:25:53] I'm sorry.
[4:25:55] it's going too fast I believe, yeah.
[4:26:00] meals are delivered to appropriate
[4:26:03] housing units for all three meal
[4:26:05] services, breakfast, lunch and dinner.
[4:26:06] our focus is to consistently deliver
[4:26:11] safe and nutritious, balanced and
[4:26:13] appealing meals to a timely manner.
[4:26:15] our staff understands serving the
[4:26:17] youth in a secure setting requires a
[4:26:20] high level of responsibility and
[4:26:22] attention to detail.
[4:26:24] the sheriff's office recently secured
[4:26:26] purchasing contracts with established
[4:26:29] food service vendors who provides all
[4:26:32] the school nutrition programs
[4:26:34] requirements that includes u.s. Foods
[4:26:37] and sysco.
[4:26:38] we regularly check quality of meals
[4:26:41] and our meals always do the final
[4:26:46] checkers before it gets to the youth.
[4:26:50] [inaudible] will share more detailers
[4:26:52] on other topics what we perform.
[4:26:53] thank you.
[4:26:56] >> good afternoon, everybody.
[4:27:02] nutritional requirements, they are
[4:27:04] developed to youth in our care.
[4:27:07] there's applicable title 15 requirements,
[4:27:11] the standards and lunch and breakfast
[4:27:13] meal program guidelines.
[4:27:15] we use these to make sure meals are
[4:27:19] provides and nutritionally appropriate.
[4:27:20] we manage our meals and support
[4:27:23] adequate daily nutrition and caloric
[4:27:26] intake.
[4:27:27] they are updated as recently as june,
[4:27:30] 2026.
[4:27:31] they are based on seasoned food
[4:27:33] availability, nutrition, youth
[4:27:34] feedback and operational needs.
[4:27:40] our menus, meals and snacks.
[4:27:43] the maple street correctional center
[4:27:45] provides food services to ysc and
[4:27:48] probation staff 7 days a week, 365
[4:27:51] days a year.
[4:27:52] we prepare and provide breakfast,
[4:27:54] lunch and dinner trays for youth and
[4:27:56] staff.
[4:27:57] we currently serve about 27 youth on a
[4:27:59] daily average, some of whom receiver
[4:28:01] double trays, this comes to
[4:28:03] approximately 332 trays per day.
[4:28:05] we operate on a four week cycle menu
[4:28:07] for the youth.
[4:28:08] we provide special diets required and
[4:28:10] approved by correctional health
[4:28:12] services dietitian.
[4:28:13] meal are developed and maintained
[4:28:15] in accordance with applicable
[4:28:17] compliance requirements and dietitian
[4:28:19] guide dabs.
[4:28:20] all meals are prepared to meet the
[4:28:23] nutritional dietary needs of the youth
[4:28:26] while maintainers required food
[4:28:27] service standards.
[4:28:28] in addition to required dealings,
[4:28:32] youth receive three snacks each day.
[4:28:35] snacks provide an additional
[4:28:36] opportunity to support daily
[4:28:39] nutritional and calorie needs.
[4:28:41] snack offerings are incorporated into
[4:28:44] the overall plan.
[4:28:49] >> I'm a dietitian with correctional
[4:28:53] health services, I've been with the
[4:28:56] county the for many years, I serve the
[4:29:00] youth, I've been there hillcrest so
[4:29:04] I'm proud of the food services program.
[4:29:07] I believe there's always room for
[4:29:09] improvement.
[4:29:10] from my perspective, my job is to do
[4:29:15] nutrition assessments, I calculate the
[4:29:18] person's needs and compare it to
[4:29:19] intake and the food offered for them.
[4:29:20] what I do is identify problems, I look
[4:29:24] at the ideologies and then I look at
[4:29:27] the data to support that and provide a
[4:29:30] service to make sure the food or the
[4:29:33] diet order is mainly according to what
[4:29:36] the kid can tolerate, the youth can
[4:29:40] tolerate.
[4:29:41] sorry.
[4:29:44] currently we have 26 youth in our
[4:29:50] care, 23 are on the diet list, 19 of
[4:29:54] those 23 are on double trays and 15 of
[4:29:58] those 19 ask for extra eggs, some of
[4:30:01] them have wanted up to 12.
[4:30:04] the nutrition requirements for this
[4:30:05] age group at the highest level is
[4:30:09] about 2800 to 3 thousand calories,
[4:30:12] currently they're provided probably
[4:30:14] about 6500 calories a day and
[4:30:16] probably 24 ounces of protein.
[4:30:18] as a dietitian, I framework my
[4:30:22] assessments around a problem ideology
[4:30:27] and signs and symptoms.
[4:30:28] I feel with this particular group,
[4:30:33] teens in general, young adults have
[4:30:35] strong preferences about food and also
[4:30:37] we have a domain that we use to
[4:30:40] categorize a problem.
[4:30:41] and one of them is knowledge and
[4:30:45] beliefs and attitudes about food.
[4:30:48] so, in the contributing factor are
[4:30:51] their age and what they have looked up
[4:30:52] on the internet.
[4:30:54] they're protein-driven, so based on
[4:30:56] how many calories we give them, they
[4:30:58] have gained weight but it's not that
[4:31:01] great, it's because they have -- they
[4:31:03] tend to gravitate to the proteins.
[4:31:06] they think the food service department
[4:31:09] has been doing the best they can.
[4:31:12] they have been going over and above,
[4:31:14] they don't ever complain about any of
[4:31:16] the double trays.
[4:31:17] they also get snacks in addition.
[4:31:21] I don't have the diet list, without
[4:31:24] the names, so you could see how vast
[4:31:27] this is.
[4:31:30] I think the issue could be the
[4:31:33] delivery, maybe those kind of changes
[4:31:35] but I'm not involved with that but I
[4:31:37] know they're doing the best they can.
[4:31:39] that's all I have.
[4:31:40] any questions?
[4:31:49] >> thank you, supervisors.
[4:31:52] >> okay, wait, one second.
[4:31:56] they won't brag about theses but they
[4:31:58] make the best cookies ever, so my
[4:32:01] team's going to hand out some of their
[4:32:03] cookies, whoever wanted left
[4:32:06] overcooked, grab it now or they're
[4:32:07] going to be gone.
[4:32:08] go ahead, share the cookies.
[4:32:11] >> thank you, supervisor.
[4:32:12] >> and some of us had lunch that they
[4:32:18] prepared and that the youth eat as
[4:32:21] well and I enjoyed it personally.
[4:32:22] I think most of us had the lunch.
[4:32:24] >> can I say one thing to you?
[4:32:26] >> yes.
[4:32:27] >> back when I was looking at the
[4:32:30] report, the 23-24, I want to point out
[4:32:31] that the school lunch program is very,
[4:32:34] very strict with their nutrition
[4:32:36] requirements and for protein, it's
[4:32:39] only two ounces per meal for that
[4:32:41] group for high school kids.
[4:32:43] two ounces, picture a mcdonalds
[4:32:49] hamburger with the two ounces of
[4:32:51] grain, add to it one cup of vegetable
[4:32:56] and part of that was the restrictions.
[4:32:58] >> through the chair, can I just say
[4:33:01] that I recently had an opportunity to
[4:33:02] tour the facility and I saw firsthand
[4:33:04] the great work that you are doing over
[4:33:07] there, that is a huge kitchen, you're
[4:33:10] preparing many meals throughout the
[4:33:12] day and, again, we had food today that
[4:33:14] you prepared and I just appreciate
[4:33:16] everything you do.
[4:33:17] it gave me a better insight as to
[4:33:19] what's being provided to everyone
[4:33:21] within the system.
[4:33:22] so, again, thank you for your work.
[4:33:23] >> thank you.
[4:33:26] >> go ahead, supervisor speier?
[4:33:28] >> leave it to food to get our attention,
[4:33:31] right.
[4:33:32] I will tell you that in my visit last
[4:33:36] night, food came up and they had some
[4:33:42] complimentary words, they said the
[4:33:43] food is a lot better now than it used
[4:33:45] to be.
[4:33:46] kudos to you for that.
[4:33:47] they do want more salt and pepper and
[4:33:49] spice and I know the school lunch
[4:33:52] program doesn't allow that, and I
[4:33:54] don't know if the dietitian can help
[4:33:56] us with that, I think the blandness
[4:33:59] bothers them a little bit, if we can
[4:34:02] somehow slip them some patsies of salt
[4:34:06] and pepper, that might be nice.
[4:34:07] >> thank you.
[4:34:09] >> I would just like to state that a couple
[4:34:12] of months ago, we had a sorbet of
[4:34:17] how the food has been going on, and
[4:34:19] I'm happy to say we have a copy of it,
[4:34:22] how the food has been improved.
[4:34:24] we have worked tirelessly to reinvent,
[4:34:28] not make some different reinvent the
[4:34:31] wheel, how can we use the spices to
[4:34:33] generate the flavors and I think so
[4:34:35] far for these comments, we are proud
[4:34:37] we have and we are committed and
[4:34:39] willing to, anything we can do for it,
[4:34:42] food is my passion and I love to do
[4:34:45] it, so it doesn't matter to me who is
[4:34:48] the end, but food is important to us
[4:34:50] so, we're committed to doing that and
[4:34:53] if we hear anything to be changing,
[4:34:54] we're happy to do it.
[4:34:57] hopefully we can get the program we
[4:34:59] had in inglewood where the kids were
[4:35:02] preparing the food, as a food service
[4:35:05] worker, I would love to go back and
[4:35:08] reinvent that, for me, it was very
[4:35:12] important, very successful and
[4:35:14] satisfying for me, if we can bring
[4:35:16] that again, I will do it on my day off
[4:35:18] or whenever it has to be, there's no
[4:35:20] issue at all.
[4:35:21] >> if they're anything like my
[4:35:23] teenager, they will think they can
[4:35:25] cook better than you so I'm sure
[4:35:28] you're open to the challenge.
[4:35:29] >> I love the challenge.
[4:35:30] >> thank you so much.
[4:35:34] I lost my -- is this mine, okay, thank
[4:35:37] you.
[4:35:38] okay.
[4:35:39] we will now move on to -- of course,
[4:35:43] why don't we pause far second, chief
[4:35:46] keene, I think you had one last slide
[4:35:48] you wanted to wrap up.
[4:35:51] >> [inaudible]
[4:35:52] >> did we have any questions for the
[4:35:56] bulk of -- no, no questions for chief
[4:35:59] keene yet, we'll wait until the end.
[4:36:00] okay, perfect.
[4:36:02] I would now like to welcome deputy
[4:36:05] district attorney nadia hanh.
[4:36:07] and I want to acknowledge that our
[4:36:11] district attorney steve wag staff is
[4:36:15] here as well.
[4:36:16] welcome, nadia.
[4:36:19] >> I can't believe I have to follow
[4:36:22] fresh baked cookies.
[4:36:23] my name is nadia hanh, I'm with the
[4:36:28] da's office, thank you to the
[4:36:30] supervisors for the invitation to
[4:36:31] speak with you about the da's role in
[4:36:34] the juvenile justice system.
[4:36:37] the purpose of the juvenile justice
[4:36:40] system as whole is to provide for the
[4:36:42] protection and safety of the public
[4:36:44] and each minor under the jurisdiction
[4:36:46] of the juvenile court and to preserve
[4:36:48] and strengthen the minor's family ties
[4:36:51] whenever possible.
[4:36:52] that's codified in welfare and
[4:36:55] institution code, code 202, it goes on
[4:36:58] to lay out the sort of guiding
[4:37:00] principles that the da's office uses
[4:37:07] in all of our deliberations.
[4:37:08] agencies charged with enforcing and
[4:37:09] administering juvenile law are
[4:37:10] mandated to weigh the following
[4:37:11] consideration, safety and protection
[4:37:12] of the public, the importance of
[4:37:16] redressing injuries to victims and
[4:37:18] the best interest of the minor who
[4:37:19] is the subject of the juvenile court
[4:37:25] matter.
[4:37:26] the juvenile division serves a
[4:37:28] number of different functions, we're
[4:37:29] involved in the actual court process
[4:37:31] from the filing of a case through
[4:37:35] disposition but the one that's most
[4:37:37] relevant to today's study session is
[4:37:39] probably the review and charging of
[4:37:41] cases, so that will be my focus today.
[4:37:44] it's the prosecutor's decision to file
[4:37:46] a petition that initiates the court
[4:37:50] process.
[4:37:53] chief keene did touch on this and I
[4:37:55] think it's important to understand
[4:37:57] that just because an offense is
[4:37:59] committed in the community by a minor
[4:38:01] does not mean that that case is going
[4:38:03] to end up in juvenile court.
[4:38:06] there are a number of levels of review
[4:38:08] that occur before a case reaches my
[4:38:10] office.
[4:38:11] the first starts with the law enforcement
[4:38:13] agency who took the case.
[4:38:16] the agency has several options for
[4:38:17] what to do next.
[4:38:19] they can determine whether any further
[4:38:25] action is needed and it's frequently
[4:38:26] the case the youth's school, family,
[4:38:30] community can provide adequate support
[4:38:32] and guidance for that youth and the
[4:38:34] case needs to go no further.
[4:38:37] they can refer the minor through
[4:38:40] services through a communities based
[4:38:41] organization on a voluntary basis,
[4:38:45] chief keene did talk about the
[4:38:47] diversion programs that our law
[4:38:50] enforcement agencies and schools have
[4:38:51] created that are in-house programs but
[4:38:53] if none of these options are deemed
[4:38:55] appropriate, then the case will go on
[4:38:57] to the next level of review which is
[4:39:00] being forwarded to the probation
[4:39:05] didn't.
[4:39:06] once there, a deputy probation officer
[4:39:07] is assigned and does essentially a
[4:39:08] similar analysis, they are also
[4:39:10] authorized to decide that no further
[4:39:11] action is needed under the
[4:39:14] circumstances, they can refer the
[4:39:16] family to another agency or community
[4:39:18] based organization for services and
[4:39:20] then they can a offer informal
[4:39:24] supervision to the minor and the
[4:39:25] family for up to a period of six
[4:39:26] months where is the family can receive
[4:39:28] services on a voluntary basis and the
[4:39:31] case will be oozed afterwards without
[4:39:33] going to court.
[4:39:34] the fourth option is to refer the
[4:39:36] court to the da's office for review.
[4:39:40] if the case is referred to the da's
[4:39:42] office, regardless of what the offense
[4:39:44] is, the assigned prosecutor will also
[4:39:48] review for filing suitability.
[4:39:51] the assigned da can decide no further
[4:39:54] action is needed, they can refer the
[4:39:55] case back to the probation department
[4:39:59] for informal supervision or file a
[4:40:01] ward ship petition to initiate the
[4:40:03] court process.
[4:40:04] and I had an asterisk under the
[4:40:08] probation column because there are
[4:40:09] some categories of offenses that
[4:40:12] mandate a referral to the da's office
[4:40:14] although this doesn't mean they are
[4:40:16] mandated to be filed.
[4:40:19] those include the 707b offenses we
[4:40:22] heard about earlier that I won't
[4:40:24] repeat.
[4:40:25] those are serious and violent felonies.
[4:40:28] it also includes possession of a gun
[4:40:29] or deadly weapon on school grounds,
[4:40:32] assault of a school employee with a
[4:40:35] deadly weapon, victim restitution that
[4:40:37] exceeds 5 thousand dollars or if
[4:40:39] there's a prior ward ship.
[4:40:43] on average, the juvenile division
[4:40:47] reviews 550 cases per year and files
[4:40:50] petitions in 360 of those cases and
[4:40:52] that's based on data from the years
[4:40:55] 2021 through 2025.
[4:40:58] this information is offered to
[4:41:02] illustrate that prosecutors exercise
[4:41:04] of discretion is done carefully and on
[4:41:06] a case by case basis and that the
[4:41:08] receipt of a petition or a case does
[4:41:12] not mean that filing will be automatic.
[4:41:19] those are my prepared comments for
[4:41:21] today.
[4:41:22] I thank you again for the opportunity
[4:41:23] to speak with you and if you have any
[4:41:26] questions, I'm happy to answer them.
[4:41:28] >> thank you, nadia.
[4:41:30] any questions from the board?
[4:41:31] supervisor speier?
[4:41:34] >> thank you, so about 60% of the
[4:41:37] cases that are referred to you
[4:41:39] actually are then processed through,
[4:41:42] sounds like, based on those numbers.
[4:41:44] of those offenses, the 707's that are
[4:41:48] automatically brought to your
[4:41:49] attention, not all of those will be
[4:41:53] processed through a court procedure?
[4:41:55] >> yes.
[4:41:56] and I can give you an example of a
[4:42:00] time that a case might come to us, the
[4:42:03] report having been taken and labeled
[4:42:05] as a 707b offense, but then we later
[4:42:09] determine that it not only doesn't
[4:42:10] need to be filed as such but that
[4:42:12] maybe there is some kind of diversion
[4:42:15] or informal probation that would be
[4:42:16] appropriate and I would say the most
[4:42:18] common would be what's called an
[4:42:23] estes robbery, where a shoplifting
[4:42:25] is elevated because there's some sort
[4:42:26] of a use of force or threat against
[4:42:29] the loss prevention officer or the
[4:42:31] store employee.
[4:42:35] those while technically that can be
[4:42:37] counted as a robbery or could be
[4:42:41] charged as a robbery, our office by
[4:42:45] policy looks at whether a weapon was
[4:42:48] used, whether there wass significant
[4:42:51] injury to the victim, the case that
[4:42:53] has come in as a robbery, we may end
[4:42:56] up filing as a petty theft or not
[4:42:59] referring to all and deferring it to
[4:43:01] diversion.
[4:43:02] >> thank you.
[4:43:04] okay.
[4:43:05] we will now move on to the private
[4:43:07] defender's office, we have mr. Rayes,
[4:43:12] thank you.
[4:43:13] >> good afternoon, president, members
[4:43:16] of the board, mr. Callagy, mr.
[4:43:19] nibbelin, members of the public,
[4:43:21] my name is ron rayes, I'm the --
[4:43:25] >> I'm going to ask you to speak
[4:43:28] into the mic.
[4:43:29] >> is this better?
[4:43:30] >> yes.
[4:43:31] >> I'm the assistant chief of the
[4:43:33] juvenile branch with the private
[4:43:35] defender program, I have been a
[4:43:36] defender for 23 years and I have the
[4:43:39] privilege and in the last 7 years
[4:43:41] to be heading the juvenile file
[4:43:47] officer, I serve on the executive
[4:43:49] board with the california youth
[4:43:51] offender's entry which supports over
[4:43:55] 1600 youth defenders throughout the
[4:43:57] state by providing training, amicus
[4:44:00] briefs as well as legislative
[4:44:02] advocacy where I have co-led several
[4:44:05] state youth justice buildings.
[4:44:07] I'm also proud to share that cydc
[4:44:12] chose san mateo county to hold their
[4:44:15] annual roundtable training and it will
[4:44:18] be held in october and I appreciate
[4:44:20] your time for allowing me to do the
[4:44:21] this presentation.
[4:44:24] I want to start by sharing a little
[4:44:26] bit about our youth offenders, we have
[4:44:30] 10 youth offenders in our office, they
[4:44:34] handle cases in different levels,
[4:44:36] they start with the firsts level and
[4:44:38] the more serious level are the
[4:44:41] transfer cases, we have -- we handle
[4:44:44] mid level cases where our serious
[4:44:49] felonies are listed in the welfare
[4:44:52] institution code, 707b, I'm not going
[4:44:53] to go through what these are, they've
[4:44:57] been covered by the chief's
[4:44:59] presentation, also our attorneys
[4:45:00] handle the third tier of cases which
[4:45:03] consist of low level felonies and
[4:45:08] misdemeanors.
[4:45:09] one of the things that we thrive is
[4:45:13] the training of our attorneys handling
[4:45:16] juvenile law cases is a very
[4:45:19] technical area of the law, so we
[4:45:21] require all of our attorneys to
[4:45:23] complete minimum 15 hours mcle each
[4:45:26] year, of that, there has to be 8 hours
[4:45:30] of juvenile law specific training.
[4:45:32] we offer in-house between 10-12 hours
[4:45:36] of mcle juvenile training and also
[4:45:38] collaborate with an organization
[4:45:45] like cydc to collectively have about
[4:45:47] 24 hours we offer to our attorneys at
[4:45:49] no cost to them.
[4:45:54] and in addition to the training, we
[4:45:56] make sure that our attorneys have the
[4:45:58] support they need to do the best job
[4:46:04] possible, that's through the
[4:46:11] support services we provide, it starts
[4:46:12] with our panel of private
[4:46:13] investigators, we have our holistic
[4:46:15] and mitigation specialists, we have a
[4:46:16] panel of social workers, we work with
[4:46:19] experts and we work with client
[4:46:20] advocates as well.
[4:46:25] and I added this slide here to just
[4:46:29] give you a highlight of how we are
[4:46:32] involved in the life of a case.
[4:46:35] it starts on the very left, it starts
[4:46:37] the minute the youth literally at
[4:46:39] times are at the scene when they are
[4:46:41] arrested, we get a call in order to
[4:46:44] provide them with their miranda -- to
[4:46:47] provide a miranda consultation and
[4:46:50] discuss with them their miranda rights.
[4:46:52] then it moves when a youth is booked
[4:46:55] at ysc, we start working through our
[4:46:58] holistic and mitigation specialist to
[4:47:01] work on ways in order to release that
[4:47:03] youth at that detention hearing and
[4:47:06] the first green box there, that's --
[4:47:09] of course our courtroom advocacy which
[4:47:14] consists of rigorous litigation
[4:47:17] strategies, we investigate the
[4:47:18] allegation and the petition, filing
[4:47:21] motions, setting contested hearings
[4:47:23] and also using experts to support our
[4:47:26] litigations strategies.
[4:47:27] and last but not least, it's also our
[4:47:30] work under the secure treatment
[4:47:33] facility as the chief mentioned with
[4:47:36] the closure of djj, it's changed the
[4:47:40] way we handle post disposition
[4:47:43] representation and there's a lot of
[4:47:44] effort we have been putting into that
[4:47:46] since the closure of djj.
[4:47:48] I want to share a date point on each
[4:47:53] of these areas that I shared with
[4:47:55] you and I'm going to start the first
[4:47:57] area, I'm going to share with you
[4:48:00] about our miranda hotline, we have
[4:48:04] attorneys on-call 7 day as week, 24
[4:48:06] hours as day, last year we received
[4:48:09] 2048 calls from law enforcement
[4:48:11] agencies, we conducted 244
[4:48:13] consultation with youth that had been
[4:48:15] arrested and then of the youth that we
[4:48:18] spoke to, 98% of them elected to
[4:48:20] assert their right to remain silent.
[4:48:23] and a breakdown of the youth we worked
[4:48:25] with in this area, 65% of them were 16
[4:48:30] and 17 years old and then 35% of them
[4:48:33] were under 15 and under.
[4:48:40] the next area that we're very proud
[4:48:42] of, we have done a lot of work on is
[4:48:46] through our mitigation and holistic
[4:48:50] specialist, lindsay paige is here with
[4:48:53] me today, she started the services back
[4:48:56] in 2024 on a contract basis and we are
[4:48:58] very grateful to our chief defender
[4:49:00] for agreeing with us to switch
[4:49:03] realizing the importance of this work
[4:49:06] to switch that -- this work into full
[4:49:09] time position so lindsay is with us
[4:49:11] now full time, that started in march
[4:49:13] of this year.
[4:49:16] what lindsay does on a day in and day
[4:49:18] out, she meets with youth soon after
[4:49:21] they are booked at juvenile hall, she
[4:49:25] starts working with them, connects
[4:49:26] with the family and any of their
[4:49:28] support people.
[4:49:30] she requests their school records and
[4:49:31] starts working on a safety plan.
[4:49:33] our goal always to have met with the
[4:49:35] youth within 24 hours of them coming
[4:49:38] into ysc and oftentimes she sees them
[4:49:44] within a few hours of their detention.
[4:49:45] last year, in the last fiscal year,
[4:49:47] lindsay created 56 safety plans in
[4:49:52] which she connected the youth to ten
[4:49:54] different community based
[4:49:56] organizations, so the youth when upon
[4:49:59] their release are receiving services.
[4:50:01] she also developed 60 detailed fully
[4:50:04] structured release plan that had
[4:50:08] school work, extra curricular
[4:50:09] activities with contingencies if the
[4:50:11] youth is released on emp.
[4:50:13] she also at times worked with the
[4:50:15] youth to ensure they are reenrolled
[4:50:18] upon their release, they are
[4:50:20] reenrolled into their school of origin.
[4:50:22] we also referred 21 youth to the youth
[4:50:25] education law project at stanford
[4:50:27] which they provide the youth with
[4:50:30] representation at discipline hearings,
[4:50:32] iep's as well as direct representation
[4:50:35] and education law type of cases.
[4:50:39] and to give you a highlight of the
[4:50:42] result of lindsay's work, we had
[4:50:45] 141 detentions that were referred to
[4:50:46] our office last year, she -- we
[4:50:50] referred to her 82 of those detentions
[4:50:55] and she worked -- based on her work,
[4:50:58] 64 of these youth were released as a
[4:51:03] result of her work and that's a result
[4:51:08] we're very proud of.
[4:51:13] another data I would like to share
[4:51:15] with you is a lot of the work our
[4:51:18] attorneys have been doing which is the
[4:51:20] area of transfers.
[4:51:24] and in 2016 and briefly to give you
[4:51:26] history here, in 2016, prop 57 wiz
[4:51:30] passed in which ended the ability to
[4:51:34] try children as adults in adult courts
[4:51:36] and that practice at the time was
[4:51:40] known as direct file, since the
[4:51:46] passage of prop 57, every youth that
[4:51:47] is facing a transfer must have an
[4:51:52] evident hearing before a juvenile
[4:51:55] judge and only the judge can transfer
[4:51:58] it to adult court.
[4:51:59] since the passage of prop 57, we
[4:52:02] represented 7 individuals in which
[4:52:03] they were facing transfer petitions
[4:52:05] and none of those 7 were transferred
[4:52:08] to adult court.
[4:52:09] we did have two cases in which we
[4:52:13] called retrospective transfers.
[4:52:15] retrospective transfer is for an
[4:52:19] individual whose cases originated in
[4:52:20] adult court, due to changes of the
[4:52:22] law, they came back to the juvenile
[4:52:29] court, one of the cases was after prop
[4:52:31] 57 passed and part of the global
[4:52:34] disposition of that case, it went back
[4:52:36] to adult court in that case, the
[4:52:39] second retrospective transfer, it
[4:52:41] concluded weeks ago, in that case
[4:52:43] after a lengthy transfer hearing, the
[4:52:46] transfer petition was denied and it
[4:52:50] remained in juvenile court, that's a
[4:52:53] data point we're proud to share with
[4:52:54] you this afternoon.
[4:52:58] the next area I want to focus on for
[4:53:02] today's presentation is our post
[4:53:05] disposition advocacy and our work with
[4:53:07] youth are committed to the secure
[4:53:09] track.
[4:53:10] as the chief has mentioned, that law
[4:53:13] responsibility have fallen on the
[4:53:15] county since the closure of djj and
[4:53:18] also with that, with the sb823,
[4:53:23] there's a lot of responsibility that
[4:53:24] we were tasked with.
[4:53:25] as a result of that, we worked with
[4:53:28] our youth add voluntary kayos, each
[4:53:30] youth who are committed to secure
[4:53:33] track is assigned a compliant added
[4:53:35] voluntary kate.
[4:53:37] the client advocates work with them on
[4:53:39] the creation of individual
[4:53:41] rehabilitation plan, not only with the
[4:53:42] youth but also with the defender.
[4:53:44] they meet with the youth at least once
[4:53:47] a month in order to track their
[4:53:49] progress as they're making their
[4:53:53] rehabilitation progress towards their
[4:53:54] rehabilitation plan, they attend
[4:53:58] mbt's, court reviews and coordinate
[4:54:00] with the different providers and they
[4:54:03] also assist their providers in less
[4:54:06] restrictive programs as they
[4:54:07] transition from a secure facility into
[4:54:10] the community.
[4:54:14] and to share a date point on the work
[4:54:16] we have been doing in this space, in
[4:54:19] 2026, there were ten youth that were
[4:54:24] in secure track, nine of them were
[4:54:26] eligible for the six months review
[4:54:28] that's mandated from welfare and
[4:54:31] institution code 875, as a result of
[4:54:33] the work of our advocates and the
[4:54:35] advocates of our defenders, those
[4:54:37] youth we were able to save them 55
[4:54:39] months off of their total time
[4:54:43] commitment.
[4:54:44] and with that, I'm happy to answer any
[4:54:46] questions and thank you for your time.
[4:54:49] >> thank you.
[4:54:50] any questions?
[4:54:53] okay, I have a question.
[4:54:54] >> yes?
[4:55:00] >> so, I'm interested in the miranda
[4:55:07] consultation work that you mentioned.
[4:55:09] I'm going to ask a brief question
[4:55:11] and we can talk about the rest
[4:55:14] off-line because we have a lot of
[4:55:15] folks here.
[4:55:19] we'll just talk about it off-line, but
[4:55:23] I'm interested in how that works
[4:55:31] especially with like our incorporated
[4:55:35] areas where we still have our school
[4:55:38] resource officers.
[4:55:39] I heard in my district specifically
[4:55:41] that these miranda consultations
[4:55:44] interfere with them having
[4:55:45] relationships with the young people
[4:55:47] but to me, I feel like they're really
[4:55:50] important but I'm trying to tease out
[4:55:55] what's the -- I don't know, it's good
[4:55:58] -- like, if having a relationship with
[4:56:00] the young person leads to them
[4:56:03] incriminating themselves and going to
[4:56:09] jail, let's ere on the side of caution
[4:56:11] and make sure they're not doing that.
[4:56:12] >> absolutely.
[4:56:14] our job is to advise the youth of
[4:56:17] their miranda rights, what it means
[4:56:19] and what the consequences of given
[4:56:23] incriminating statement and how it
[4:56:24] plays out in the legal system if they
[4:56:26] were to give any statement that is
[4:56:29] incriminating.
[4:56:30] they ultimately make that decision, we
[4:56:31] don't make that decision for them.
[4:56:33] so, that's why we ask only
[4:56:38] specifically trained attorneys or
[4:56:40] juvenile defenders are the ones who
[4:56:43] handle those calls because they
[4:56:46] understand the adolescent brain
[4:56:47] development, they understand that most
[4:56:49] youths do not know what miranda rights
[4:56:51] are and how they would play out if
[4:56:53] they were to be -- to work to give a
[4:56:57] statement.
[4:56:58] another thing we also focus on, we
[4:57:00] address the fact that given a
[4:57:02] statement and whether you're going to
[4:57:04] be detained or not are two
[4:57:06] separate things and that should not be
[4:57:07] parts of the equation if they're
[4:57:09] making their decisions whether they're
[4:57:11] going to be giving a statement or not.
[4:57:13] >> thank you.
[4:57:14] >> and as far as the mechanics of how
[4:57:17] it works, I'm more than happy to share
[4:57:18] with you that information.
[4:57:19] >> thank you, we'll talk more about
[4:57:21] that off-line.
[4:57:23] any other comments?
[4:57:24] okay.
[4:57:25] we will now move on -- thank you so
[4:57:27] much, ron, we'll move on and I would
[4:57:29] like to welcome presiding judge susan
[4:57:35] jakubowski, welcome, and thank you for
[4:57:37] your patience.
[4:57:38] >> alright.
[4:57:40] president corzo and members of the
[4:57:42] board of supervisors, mr. Callagy,
[4:57:44] mr. Nibbelin, thank you for
[4:57:47] allowing me to be here this afternoon
[4:57:49] and to address you.
[4:57:51] my name is susan and I'm currently
[4:57:56] assigned as the presiding judge of the
[4:57:59] juvenile court, this is my second time
[4:58:02] up at juvenile court, I was a judge up
[4:58:04] at the juvenile court from 2018
[4:58:07] through 2021 and I really value this
[4:58:09] work, I enjoy it so when the chance
[4:58:11] came to go back, I asked to go.
[4:58:15] I took over as presiding judge in late
[4:58:18] may of this year.
[4:58:19] we also have a second judge up at
[4:58:22] juvenile court, just amara lee, she
[4:58:25] started in may and has worked for me
[4:58:28] these past few months.
[4:58:32] I'm here to talk to you about
[4:58:35] the role of the juvenile court judge
[4:58:37] and how justice partners work together
[4:58:39] in the juvenile justice system.
[4:58:41] in the past few months, the juvenile
[4:58:46] court justices have been meeting
[4:58:49] with community stakeholders and
[4:58:50] community organizations to learn
[4:58:51] more about them and to visit their
[4:58:53] facility.
[4:58:54] one of the reasons we've been doing
[4:58:56] this is judge lee is new to juvenile
[4:59:00] court, many things have changed so I
[4:59:02] feel it is helpful for both of us to
[4:59:05] gather as much information as possible
[4:59:07] as the programs and individuals who
[4:59:09] are working with us in the juvenile
[4:59:12] justice system.
[4:59:13] in san mateo, there are two juvenile
[4:59:16] court judges, both of us preside over
[4:59:20] juvenile justice matters and
[4:59:22] dependency cases and handle all the
[4:59:25] hearings in the case including
[4:59:28] pretrial conferences, trials and
[4:59:30] dispositions, we also are responsible
[4:59:32] for conducting periodic reviews of
[4:59:34] cases as provided for in the welfare
[4:59:36] and institutions code and sometimes if
[4:59:38] we just need -- if we just think a
[4:59:41] youth needs some additional monitoring
[4:59:43] and we just want to make sure that --
[4:59:46] how they're doing and to make sure
[4:59:48] they're getting the services that they
[4:59:50] need.
[4:59:51] in addition to our court work, judge
[4:59:53] lee and I also attends events
[4:59:55] involving our youth in the youth
[5:00:04] services center as well as the
[5:00:05] community.
[5:00:06] we have attended independent living
[5:00:07] graduation, at the youth services
[5:00:08] center and we asked to be on the list
[5:00:09] for events at the youth services
[5:00:12] center if they're doing presentations
[5:00:13] so if we have time, we can go over and
[5:00:16] be there with them and see what
[5:00:17] they're doing.
[5:00:18] as a juvenile court judge, I work
[5:00:20] regularly with many different
[5:00:21] holders and organizations in the
[5:00:25] juvenile justice arena, these include
[5:00:27] probation, the district attorney's
[5:00:29] office, the private defender program,
[5:00:31] the human services agency of san
[5:00:34] mateo, county counsel, behavioral
[5:00:35] health and recovery services, court
[5:00:37] appointed special advocates, the
[5:00:40] juvenile justice and delinquency
[5:00:42] prevention commission, fresh lifelines
[5:00:44] for work and live in peace.
[5:00:46] each of these stakeholders and
[5:00:48] organizations has a different role
[5:00:50] working with young people who become
[5:00:53] involved in juvenile justice in the
[5:00:55] county.
[5:00:56] the model we currently use in juvenile
[5:00:57] matters is one of collaboration
[5:01:00] involving these stakeholders and
[5:01:03] organizations, many of us meet
[5:01:06] regularly to discuss poll kissinger
[5:01:07] procedures and programs to see what
[5:01:09] issues need to be addressed and to
[5:01:12] improve how services are provided to
[5:01:19] the youth and their families.
[5:01:20] my main priorities are that the youth
[5:01:21] receive the services necessary for the
[5:01:22] rehabilitation and development while
[5:01:23] they are in the juvenile justice
[5:01:25] system.
[5:01:26] it is also important that the youth
[5:01:28] and those that provide services to
[5:01:30] them as well as the community remain
[5:01:32] safe during this process.
[5:01:38] although each of the stakeholders may
[5:01:41] have different responsibilities in the
[5:01:42] process, my goal is to continue to
[5:01:44] have everyone work together as much as
[5:01:46] we can to reach a resolution so that
[5:01:49] we continue to focus on the goal of
[5:01:52] rehabilitation of our youth so they
[5:01:54] will succeed as future adult members
[5:01:56] of our community.
[5:01:58] and I'm happy to take any questions if
[5:02:01] anyone has any.
[5:02:02] >> thank you.
[5:02:03] supervisor mueller?
[5:02:04] >> thank you, judge, I wanted to ask
[5:02:09] when I was going through the san mateo
[5:02:11] county juvenile justice and
[5:02:13] delinquency comprising's operating
[5:02:15] policies, it says appointments is done
[5:02:17] by yourself in conjunction with the
[5:02:18] presiding judge.
[5:02:19] >> right.
[5:02:20] >> then later on in section 4, it says
[5:02:23] that the county executive's offices
[5:02:26] and administrative staff provide
[5:02:27] support to the juvenile justice
[5:02:30] commission.
[5:02:31] who is the entity that reviews the
[5:02:36] report and determines whether or not
[5:02:37] the report that's being done on
[5:02:40] inspections is in compliance with
[5:02:43] standard practices?
[5:02:45] is there anybody that makes sure
[5:02:47] they're following the rules or doing
[5:02:48] the inspection right?
[5:02:51] >> well, somebody, no?
[5:02:55] okay.
[5:02:56] I will cede to ms. Rasmussen so she
[5:03:00] can address that.
[5:03:05] I know the court -- the presiding
[5:03:06] judge of juvenile court reviews
[5:03:07] applications for commissioners and
[5:03:08] makes a recommendation, I think they
[5:03:09] are then confirmed eventually by the
[5:03:11] board.
[5:03:12] I do know that they are provided under
[5:03:15] the law to be able to go in and do the
[5:03:18] inspections.
[5:03:19] obviously I review those reports and
[5:03:20] information and if there's some
[5:03:22] concern, we can address it.
[5:03:24] but I will also let ms. Rasmussen
[5:03:26] speak in more detail to that.
[5:03:28] >> what I'm trying to understand is
[5:03:30] when I look at the reports and I have
[5:03:32] gone back and looked at the last
[5:03:37] reports, under section 4, it says --
[5:03:41] excuse me, under section 2a, it says
[5:03:43] there should be not less than 7, no
[5:03:45] more than 15 commissioners and we have
[5:03:47] 10 right now.
[5:03:49] later it makes it very clear that no
[5:03:52] one commissioner can speak for the
[5:03:53] body as you would expect.
[5:03:54] when I look at the reports, in 2025, only
[5:03:59] 3 of the commissioners did the
[5:04:02] inspection and only two signed it,
[5:04:09] pretty close to one person speaking
[5:04:10] for the body.
[5:04:11] in 2025, only 4 did the inspection
[5:04:12] which is still less than a quorum of
[5:04:18] members of that board.
[5:04:19] so I'm wondering, is that adequate or
[5:04:20] is that -- how are supposed to take
[5:04:21] that as a body or as a county?
[5:04:23] >> I will allow ms. Rasmussen to speak
[5:04:26] from that, from attending the
[5:04:29] meetings, what I'm aware of is that
[5:04:31] they have commissioners that sign up
[5:04:33] to do the inspections.
[5:04:35] I believe then they present all of the
[5:04:37] data and information from those
[5:04:40] inspections to one another and so the
[5:04:44] onuses as I understand it, they have
[5:04:47] these commissioners would sign up to
[5:04:49] do the inspections and then those are
[5:04:53] probably -- they conduct the
[5:04:54] inspections and I believe they sign
[5:04:55] off on them but I think the -- and she
[5:04:59] can get into more specifics about
[5:05:03] this, then I believe they share that
[5:05:06] information with -- at the jjdpc meetings
[5:05:08] and with the rest of the
[5:05:09] commission, and I will say I
[5:05:13] was not up in the juvenile court in
[5:05:16] 2025 and 2024, I haven't been there
[5:05:21] since 2021 was my last year there, and
[5:05:24] I am also newly the presiding judge up
[5:05:26] there as of may of this year so, from
[5:05:30] what I remember, and that's what I'm
[5:05:32] going back to, that's my understanding
[5:05:33] of how things work but I would leave
[5:05:35] it to ms. Rasmussen to provide you
[5:05:38] more detail as to those questions.
[5:05:39] >> I appreciate that.
[5:05:40] >> thank you, I'm just going to jump
[5:05:43] in.
[5:05:44] judge, I just want to -- before we
[5:05:47] invite chair rasmussen up, if you
[5:05:49] would allow me to let -- I have done a
[5:05:52] bunch of research on this because I'm
[5:05:55] the liaison to this commission now, so
[5:05:57] I know mr. Callagy has some
[5:05:58] information and we have deputy county
[5:06:03] counsel, judith, that has some
[5:06:05] information, we've been looking into it
[5:06:07] so there's like state law which
[5:06:11] chair rasmussen serves on a state body
[5:06:13] and has that perspective.
[5:06:15] we discovered that we have a local
[5:06:17] ordinance and we will get to that and
[5:06:19] I will give chair rasmussen more time
[5:06:24] during the jjdpc presentation section
[5:06:25] if that's okay with you.
[5:06:26] >> yes.
[5:06:27] >> okay, perfect, thank you so much.
[5:06:29] and I totally -- you're not even full
[5:06:32] three months into the new role, so
[5:06:34] thank you so much for your
[5:06:36] presentation.
[5:06:37] >> thank you.
[5:06:38] >> I have a question.
[5:06:39] >> supervisor speier?
[5:06:40] >> thank you, judge, for your present
[5:06:42] at.
[5:06:43] I -- presentation, I don't know if
[5:06:46] you have read the civil grand jury
[5:06:48] report of july 2025.
[5:06:51] it's entitled vacant, valuable and
[5:06:55] vulnerable, reimagining san mateo
[5:06:57] county's youth services counties, have
[5:06:58] you had a chance?
[5:06:59] >> I have not.
[5:07:00] >> maybe after you read it, we can
[5:07:02] have a conversation because there's
[5:07:08] some really I think valid questions
[5:07:09] that are being ray raised as to how we
[5:07:10] can provide services to this
[5:07:11] population, maybe in a less
[5:07:15] constrained fashion or differently
[5:07:16] than we are, so I would encourage that
[5:07:20] conversation once you've had a chance
[5:07:21] to read it, thank you.
[5:07:23] >> yes, happy to.
[5:07:24] >> supervisor canepa also has a
[5:07:25] question.
[5:07:26] >> I don't have a question, but I want
[5:07:28] to thank you, judge, as well as judge
[5:07:30] lee, I think we've had an incredible
[5:07:34] representation from the court, your
[5:07:36] ability to leave and then come back
[5:07:38] speaks volumes.
[5:07:39] I think it takes a very special person
[5:07:43] or special people and I think what the
[5:07:45] court has demonstrated over a period
[5:07:47] of time is really fair but being
[5:07:50] compassionate and really making sure
[5:07:53] that we understand people's stories
[5:07:55] and what we can do.
[5:07:57] these are -- to be quite frank with
[5:07:59] you, these are young people and
[5:08:01] everyone deserves a chance, especially
[5:08:04] at a young age, but I'm delighted, I'm
[5:08:07] excited that you're back and whatever
[5:08:10] I can do as board member, I just want
[5:08:12] to support you and your efforts,
[5:08:16] please tell judge lee who I sit on the
[5:08:20] library board with that you guys are
[5:08:23] doing an incredible job.
[5:08:24] we really do enjoy working with the
[5:08:26] both of you.
[5:08:27] I'm glad you came back.
[5:08:29] >> and one thing I did want to say and
[5:08:31] I look forward to reading the grand
[5:08:33] jury report about the facilities.
[5:08:37] I think that as chief can keene
[5:08:39] mentioned and I think we all are of
[5:08:42] the opinion that there's always
[5:08:45] situations that we can improve things.
[5:08:48] facilities, working on getting youth
[5:08:52] connected earlier with services,
[5:08:53] working on getting services for the
[5:08:55] youth and their families in a quicker
[5:08:58] way and in a broader way and I think
[5:09:03] certainly there are things that can be
[5:09:06] done to improve the facilities and
[5:09:07] that's what I think we all want and
[5:09:09] that's one of the reasons that many of
[5:09:13] us work together klab rat I beverly to
[5:09:16] find ways to make things less like a
[5:09:19] facility for the youth and more a
[5:09:23] system where they can work on the
[5:09:25] rehabilitation, they can focus on
[5:09:26] their education.
[5:09:27] they can do a lot of fun things.
[5:09:29] one of the things I like to stress a
[5:09:32] lot of times is they've done things
[5:09:33] that are very serious sometimes but
[5:09:36] they're still kids and they need a
[5:09:38] chance to be kids and I think we all
[5:09:43] really -- the justice partners and the
[5:09:46] stakeholders all have that same goal
[5:09:47] in mind, that we work with them in an
[5:09:50] environment that will address their
[5:09:53] issues, allow them to be kids and help
[5:09:55] them to get to a better place at the
[5:09:57] end of the day.
[5:09:58] so I'm open to all of that, thank you.
[5:10:00] >> thank you, judge.
[5:10:04] mr. Callagy, would you like to answer
[5:10:07] supervisor mueller's question or
[5:10:10] should we invite deputy county -- or
[5:10:14] county attorney nibbelin, go ahead.
[5:10:15] >> I was going defer to my colleague,
[5:10:18] chief deputy judith holliber, who I
[5:10:21] think can address that issue, maybe a
[5:10:23] couple of other things.
[5:10:24] >> good afternoon, supervisors.
[5:10:27] so, the body, the jjdpc body is a
[5:10:32] little complicated beasts hybrid body,
[5:10:34] so it's combined statutorily mandated
[5:10:37] body under 225 with code 2225 which
[5:10:40] is the jjc component, juvenile
[5:10:43] justice, and then the dpc component is
[5:10:46] an advisory commission to the board
[5:10:49] and they're combined which is why you
[5:10:51] have the appointments that are made by
[5:10:53] the judge and then also ratified by
[5:10:55] the board.
[5:10:58] but the inspections that are done of
[5:11:04] the facilities and the reports on
[5:11:05] those inspections are specifically in
[5:11:06] the code as an obligation of the jjc,
[5:11:08] the statutory body that reports to the
[5:11:11] court.
[5:11:12] so, while the reports go to the board
[5:11:13] and there are recommendations in them,
[5:11:16] it's the court that oversees that
[5:11:19] process of inspecting and receiving
[5:11:21] the reports.
[5:11:22] >> and I just wanted to add that from
[5:11:25] my understanding, judith, and you can
[5:11:28] correct me, the san mateo county board
[5:11:30] of supervisors back in 1974-ish --
[5:11:35] >> somewhere around there, maybe 66 --
[5:11:41] >> 76, passed -- 66, passed an order
[5:11:48] combining the two bodies and created
[5:11:53] the commission as we know it now.
[5:11:54] >> and that is in our ordinance code
[5:11:56] and that is the prerogative of the board
[5:11:58] that is provided for in the code.
[5:12:00] some counties have combined them, some
[5:12:03] counties have not.
[5:12:04] there are other options for the dpc
[5:12:09] portion of that body.
[5:12:11] some have stand alone jjc's.
[5:12:13] >> yes, that is absolutely correct.
[5:12:17] the jjc has somewhat of a limited
[5:12:19] effect in the board at one point in
[5:12:22] time decided to expand that and adopt
[5:12:29] the jjdpc the welfare code 223 and
[5:12:40] combine them.
[5:12:41] that which I think took on even a
[5:12:42] larger role after that, but the duties
[5:12:45] assigned to 225 are somewhat limited
[5:12:47] as I understand it.
[5:12:52] >> supervisor mueller?
[5:12:53] >> yeah so, that's kind of what I was
[5:12:55] getting to in my questions is under
[5:12:58] 225, really the obligation is to do
[5:12:59] the inspections.
[5:13:00] >> correct.
[5:13:02] >> so, if less than -- I mean, in
[5:13:07] 2024, only two people did the
[5:13:08] inspection out of the entire
[5:13:11] commission.
[5:13:12] in 2025, less than half of the
[5:13:13] commissioners did the inspection, so
[5:13:14] to the extent, how is that the
[5:13:20] commission satisfying 225 and what
[5:13:22] weight should we be giving the
[5:13:24] commission's findings if it could be
[5:13:26] swayed with such a small amount of the
[5:13:27] commissioners?
[5:13:28] >> I'm not sure that the code requires
[5:13:30] that all the commissioners do the
[5:13:33] inspections.
[5:13:34] it's the commission's duty to conduct
[5:13:36] them, that's the purview of the
[5:13:38] commission and the court overseeing
[5:13:39] the commission.
[5:13:41] and the code does provide for how many
[5:13:43] members on the commission, but I
[5:13:45] haven't seen neigh says that
[5:13:48] absolutely every single commissioner
[5:13:49] has to participate in the inspections,
[5:13:51] it might be that the -- I think and
[5:13:53] this I will defer to ms. Rasmussen, I
[5:13:56] think the way they do it is select
[5:13:58] people to conduct the actual
[5:14:00] inspections and they bring the
[5:14:01] information back to the commission as
[5:14:02] a whole to do the report, but I'm not
[5:14:07] positive about that part especially
[5:14:10] because that's a part I don't advise on
[5:14:12] really.
[5:14:13] >> okay, and I would suggest to the
[5:14:15] commission in a circumstance like this
[5:14:17] where we are weighing all the
[5:14:19] information coming to us to see a
[5:14:21] report that's only signed by two
[5:14:23] commissioners and only treated the
[5:14:25] inspection doesn't satisfy the
[5:14:28] obligations of 225.
[5:14:29] >> okay.
[5:14:30] thank you.
[5:14:31] >> thank you.
[5:14:33] >> and so I'm going to take some
[5:14:40] privilege here and invite chair
[5:14:43] rasmussen to present on the jjdpc and
[5:14:47] to our partners from fly and live in
[5:14:51] peace, we're going to have you go
[5:14:53] last, thank you for your patience.
[5:14:57] chair rasmussen, please go ahead.
[5:14:58] >> thank you so much, kim, am I
[5:15:01] pressing the white button?
[5:15:03] okay.
[5:15:04] thank you so much for having us here
[5:15:06] again today and for pushing through
[5:15:08] and getting this study session going.
[5:15:12] if you can look around, I'm pretty
[5:15:14] privileged to work with some pretty
[5:15:16] amazing partners who work tirelessly
[5:15:20] to ensure that our young people are
[5:15:22] not only safe but they
[5:15:29] receive services and their lives are
[5:15:30] improved.
[5:15:31] since I was here in december, I'm not
[5:15:32] going spend too much time going back
[5:15:34] over the items that we already shared.
[5:15:37] I'll just provide a brief overview
[5:15:39] which I think answers some of
[5:15:41] supervisor mueller's questions.
[5:15:43] and it also includes the ordinance
[5:15:45] that was referenced by supervisor
[5:15:49] corzo.
[5:15:50] so, legal authority of the joint
[5:15:52] commission, so the juvenile justice
[5:15:54] and delinquency prevention act of 1974
[5:15:58] established national standards for how
[5:16:01] youth in custody were to be tried and
[5:16:04] it also supports local efforts at
[5:16:08] prevention.
[5:16:09] and then san mateo county in 1966
[5:16:12] passed ordinance number 1769 which
[5:16:14] established the delinquency prevention
[5:16:16] commission, the welfare and
[5:16:17] institutions code that was spoken of
[5:16:21] earlier requires that every county
[5:16:24] have a jjc, juvenile justice
[5:16:25] commission, and it authorizes the
[5:16:26] board to create and maintain a
[5:16:28] delinquency prevention commission and
[5:16:30] the county's responsible for paying
[5:16:34] stipends and expenses and our
[5:16:36] commissioner appointments are just as
[5:16:37] we spoke about, they go through the
[5:16:39] courts first and then they come to you
[5:16:40] after that.
[5:16:42] and the same members serve on both
[5:16:46] commissions.
[5:16:47] so, who serves on the jjdpc?
[5:16:50] so, we have individuals with lived
[5:16:54] experience, we have educators, we have
[5:16:57] elected officials, community leaders,
[5:17:00] advocates, youth, last year we had
[5:17:02] five youth commissioners which I was
[5:17:04] very proud of.
[5:17:06] we have painters.
[5:17:07] I, myself, come from a family of four
[5:17:10] generations of law enforcement, my
[5:17:14] family served san francisco and san
[5:17:15] mateo county for over 100 years and
[5:17:18] public safety is our legacy.
[5:17:19] I also had a child 20 years ago who
[5:17:23] went through the juvenile justice
[5:17:24] system and I was one of those parents
[5:17:26] who received that bill when my
[5:17:28] daughter was sent to cya, it was $86 a
[5:17:32] day and that was in 2022 which was
[5:17:36] considerable for a police officer
[5:17:38] family.
[5:17:39] so, we all bring a unique
[5:17:40] perspective to the table in this work
[5:17:44] and I think that our diversity matters.
[5:17:51] we share one common responsibility and
[5:17:54] that is to look independently at how
[5:17:55] our systems are serving young people
[5:17:56] and where we can do better.
[5:17:58] so, getting into our mandates and
[5:18:00] responsibilities, sofa silt
[5:18:02] inspections, so supervisor mueller, we
[5:18:04] conduct about 20 facility inspections
[5:18:06] a year.
[5:18:07] the youth services center and secure
[5:18:11] track inspection takes about four days.
[5:18:13] there are very few members of the
[5:18:15] commission who can take off four days
[5:18:17] of work, four days of school, we can
[5:18:19] only do it during the weekday, during
[5:18:21] certain business hours, that is a
[5:18:25] commitment that is a big facility and
[5:18:27] so we have difficulty finding people
[5:18:29] who can clear those schedules for that
[5:18:32] many number of days to participate.
[5:18:35] each year we encourage people to sign
[5:18:37] up but we also are mindful that people
[5:18:40] may not have that availability and
[5:18:42] they're going to sign up for an
[5:18:44] inspection that would only require
[5:18:45] them to take off one day of work, that
[5:18:47] might be for the canyon oaks facility or
[5:18:50] receiving hope.
[5:18:52] we also have youth who have
[5:18:55] transportation issues and so maybe
[5:18:56] we'll give them the responsibility of
[5:18:58] doing one of the reports.
[5:19:02] they don't require going out to the
[5:19:04] facility where you're doing research
[5:19:06] after what's happening at kafrn glen
[5:19:08] wood, so we do put the sign-ups out
[5:19:13] and people do sign up.
[5:19:16] we're aware of the time commit: we
[5:19:18] prepare the report, we distribute the
[5:19:20] report, it goes before the full
[5:19:22] commission and we discuss it and the
[5:19:25] full commission votes to approve it.
[5:19:26] it then goes to the state of
[5:19:28] california and we provide it to the
[5:19:30] board basically as courtesy because
[5:19:33] you provide the budget for these
[5:19:35] facilities and if there's liability
[5:19:37] involved, it falls on us, the
[5:19:40] taxpayers, the board here so I'm
[5:19:43] hoping I answered the question okay.
[5:19:44] okay.
[5:19:46] alright.
[5:19:47] so, besides facility inspections, we
[5:19:49] work with bscc and oycr to ensure
[5:19:52] compliance with all the things we
[5:19:54] heard about earlier.
[5:19:55] we conduct educational evaluations of
[5:19:57] the programming that's being offered
[5:19:59] in the hall and in secure track.
[5:20:01] we inquire into the administration of
[5:20:03] juvenile court law.
[5:20:08] we make policy recommendation for
[5:20:09] system improvements and then on the
[5:20:10] delinquency prevention side, we're
[5:20:12] responsible for coordinating
[5:20:14] delinquency prevention efforts
[5:20:15] throughout the county.
[5:20:16] we build partnerships with schools
[5:20:18] and organizations that work to prevent
[5:20:20] entry into the juvenile justice system
[5:20:23] in the first place.
[5:20:24] we do a lot of community entrainment
[5:20:27] and outreach, commissioner blanco's
[5:20:30] been instrumental in making
[5:20:32] partnerships with our school districts
[5:20:33] and our superintendents and we go
[5:20:35] and give presentations there, we give
[5:20:37] presentations to civic groups and we
[5:20:39] create resource and guide books for
[5:20:43] parents and families and study the
[5:20:47] root causes of juvenile delinquency
[5:20:51] and recidivism in hopes of improving
[5:20:53] public safety in san mateo county.
[5:20:55] when we came in december, I think we
[5:20:57] said we had ten minutes, I think we
[5:20:59] went over an hour which was really
[5:21:01] amazing, so we highlighted some of the
[5:21:04] issues that probation has
[5:21:08] consistently said they're not in their
[5:21:10] purview to fik.
[5:21:11] for example, the chief as much as he
[5:21:13] might want to provide adequate food or
[5:21:17] food that tastes good, that is really
[5:21:20] correctional health and dietitian,
[5:21:21] everybody has their own space, right,
[5:21:27] so there were issues that we
[5:21:28] elevated, many of which working with
[5:21:29] probation year after year that they
[5:21:31] said, we need help with, procurement
[5:21:32] is one.
[5:21:35] for instance, we had some -- when I
[5:21:38] say we, I mean collectively,
[5:21:40] that's how we work.
[5:21:41] we had some shelving that was on order,
[5:21:44] about five years ago, and that
[5:21:47] shelving went through the procurement
[5:21:48] process but by the time it got
[5:21:50] approved, I think it was earlier this
[5:21:52] year, the company had gone out of
[5:21:53] business so we have to start all over
[5:21:56] again, then they said the weight at
[5:21:58] dpw could be up to would years before
[5:22:00] they could get it installed so being
[5:22:02] able to have some sort of expedited
[5:22:05] procurement process for our juvenile
[5:22:07] facilities would be very helpful not
[5:22:09] only for probation to be able to take
[5:22:11] care of the facility in the way in
[5:22:14] which they want to but it would also
[5:22:18] eliminate these issues with the
[5:22:20] carpets and the painting and the
[5:22:22] things we mentioned to you in december.
[5:22:26] I wanted to touch base on the dental
[5:22:28] care.
[5:22:29] I appreciated the very thorough and
[5:22:32] comprehensive reports that were
[5:22:33] presented here.
[5:22:35] there are -- there were in this last
[5:22:37] inspection cycle long waits for dental
[5:22:39] care, I even had one youth who had a
[5:22:41] court order and waited 8 months with a
[5:22:45] court order to get dental care.
[5:22:47] there are issues within the system
[5:22:48] that we need to elevate.
[5:22:49] that's our responsibility to do so.
[5:22:53] the limited prea compliance, that from
[5:22:55] our perspective was that there was no
[5:22:57] information available on the website
[5:22:58] as far as no policy but the actual
[5:23:01] numbers, the prea numbers, let's say
[5:23:03] the sheriff department has on their
[5:23:07] website.
[5:23:08] lack of confidential reporting options.
[5:23:10] I was happy to hear the chief
[5:23:12] mentioned they were looking at an
[5:23:13] outside number.
[5:23:14] I did look to see after our meeting
[5:23:18] two weeks ago what the reporting
[5:23:20] options were available online,
[5:23:23] supervisor corzo mentioned those, and
[5:23:25] it's a pdf form, so not all youth have
[5:23:28] access to computers in the hall,
[5:23:31] mainly it's just college students, so
[5:23:32] to be able to access the pdf, print
[5:23:37] the pdf, fill out the pdf and e-mail
[5:23:39] it back to probation is cumbersome for
[5:23:44] juveniles when you may not have that
[5:23:46] access.
[5:23:47] your parents may be able to, I have
[5:23:49] messages on my phone from parents
[5:23:51] would say they don't want to go
[5:23:54] through normal channels because they
[5:23:56] feel their child may be retaliated
[5:23:59] against.
[5:24:00] having alternative ways that don't
[5:24:02] involve going through probation would
[5:24:04] be helpful.
[5:24:06] we currently house females with males
[5:24:08] which has its own issues.
[5:24:11] we don't have enough females which is
[5:24:15] a fortunate position to be in but it
[5:24:17] is difficult to house them together.
[5:24:21] so, we have one on the secure track
[5:24:24] unit, sometimes we'll have three, four
[5:24:25] on the other housing units.
[5:24:29] okay.
[5:24:30] and then most recently there's been
[5:24:33] discussion about difficulty in
[5:24:35] accessing funding for our secure track
[5:24:36] youth.
[5:24:37] I know the state has provided I
[5:24:40] believe close to 12 million dollars
[5:24:41] for this prop lacing and -- population
[5:24:44] and there are steps that must be
[5:24:46] taken to access that funding that's
[5:24:48] something we're interested in learning
[5:24:50] more about and wanting to see what
[5:24:52] barriers can be removed so that money
[5:24:54] can be used for the youth and their
[5:24:57] individual rehabilitation plans.
[5:24:59] staffing levelers are always something
[5:25:01] that we bring up and I know that mr.
[5:25:04] wade and I would communicate each
[5:25:07] week, we would communicate and I know
[5:25:10] they are really trying to hire new
[5:25:13] folks.
[5:25:14] they even changed the shift schedules
[5:25:18] to include 312's and 410's to sort of
[5:25:21] -- because everybody's vying for the
[5:25:23] same people.
[5:25:24] so, I think that they're working
[5:25:26] towards that.
[5:25:28] we are seeing a growing number of
[5:25:30] youth who are experiencing housing
[5:25:32] instability, so if a youth stays in
[5:25:36] custody until their 18th birthday and
[5:25:38] their probation is terminated and they
[5:25:40] don't have anywhere to go, we're
[5:25:42] finding out where do we place them,
[5:25:45] we're currently working with samaritan
[5:25:47] house to see how we can build a
[5:25:49] partnership there so we can keep those
[5:25:52] kids off the street.
[5:25:56] so I'll go into now the issues in the
[5:26:00] communities.
[5:26:01] so, there's a lack of robust reentry
[5:26:03] services and support.
[5:26:06] meaning that when my daughter went
[5:26:07] through the system, we have what we
[5:26:09] call wrap around services and it was a
[5:26:11] wrap around program that really did
[5:26:13] just that, it wrapped around the
[5:26:15] family, whatever that looked like, to
[5:26:18] provide them with the intensive
[5:26:19] services they needed to succeed.
[5:26:21] right now we have contracted services
[5:26:24] that are very limited at a recent
[5:26:27] meet, we talked about this and the
[5:26:30] first month could be as little as four
[5:26:33] hours and that four hours is not
[5:26:36] really robust reentry services so
[5:26:38] that's something we're looking to
[5:26:42] improve.
[5:26:43] also transportation into the youth
[5:26:46] services center, samtrans eliminated
[5:26:47] the bus route there and the commission
[5:26:50] lobbied samtrans to consider their
[5:26:52] decision but they said that the
[5:26:54] neighborhood was located in an
[5:26:56] affluent area and that was a factor
[5:26:57] to why the service was can you and so
[5:27:00] we have not been able to restore any
[5:27:04] public transportation up there which
[5:27:06] is critical because that's where youth
[5:27:07] check in with probation, that's where we
[5:27:11] have code, both dependency and
[5:27:13] delinquency court.
[5:27:14] there are a lot of services being
[5:27:19] provided, visiting, things like that,
[5:27:22] challenging accessing services once
[5:27:23] they're out of the community and the
[5:27:24] basic lack of support.
[5:27:27] all of these issues are connected, if
[5:27:29] we look at the community issues, all
[5:27:32] of those are interconnected and if we
[5:27:34] want young people to succeed when they
[5:27:37] leave custody, it's very important
[5:27:39] that these things are in place when
[5:27:41] they walk out the door.
[5:27:43] facility and maintenance, getting back
[5:27:45] to our procurement process and mentioning
[5:27:47] the delays we had with the carpet
[5:27:49] and flooring, much of the damage to
[5:27:52] the carpets has resulted in the change
[5:27:53] of the food services that were
[5:27:55] transferred during the pandemic over
[5:27:59] to the county jail and they're
[5:28:02] heated up, there's ovens and
[5:28:05] refrigerators on the housing unit, you
[5:28:06] can see the extensive food stains and
[5:28:09] whatnot and near the tables where
[5:28:11] the youth eat.
[5:28:12] so I think -- and the facility is
[5:28:15] coming up on 20 years, and I think
[5:28:17] having an open house is a fantastic
[5:28:19] idea.
[5:28:20] but it is a state of the art facility.
[5:28:22] that track, what we have in the
[5:28:24] center, there is a beautiful facility and
[5:28:29] our goal as commission when we raise
[5:28:32] these issues about the maintenance and
[5:28:34] things that need to be done, we want
[5:28:35] to keep it that way.
[5:28:37] we never want to get back to the place
[5:28:39] we were at 21 tower road, so it
[5:28:42] requires maintenance and it is hard to
[5:28:43] believe it's already been 20 years
[5:28:49] but it has, and so just like in our
[5:28:50] own homes, you know, we need to keep
[5:28:51] care of things.
[5:28:55] so, okay, so we've talked about the
[5:28:57] carpets and flooring, the lack of
[5:29:00] personal storage, general housekeeping
[5:29:01] and maintenance.
[5:29:02] one thing I learned in july when we
[5:29:05] went for our most recent inspection,
[5:29:08] commissioner paten and I, I learned we
[5:29:10] do not have a housekeeping contract in
[5:29:12] place for the juveniles or some of the
[5:29:15] youth are the ones who perform all the
[5:29:18] housekeeping which is fine but it kind
[5:29:20] of also expands why we don't have --
[5:29:23] things aren't deep cleaned and I don't
[5:29:26] know how they ever been trained to
[5:29:28] clean, you know, my children have
[5:29:31] chores at home but cleaning a facility
[5:29:34] of that size I think is worthy of a
[5:29:37] contract, just to ensure we're doing a
[5:29:39] deep clean.
[5:29:40] I know there is a contract in place
[5:29:42] for the administrative offices and
[5:29:44] the lobbies and things like that, and
[5:29:45] I believe I spoke with mr. Wade and
[5:29:50] ms. Ramirez during the inspection to
[5:29:51] see about ways that we can expand that
[5:29:54] contract to include some deep cleaning
[5:29:58] there.
[5:30:02] commission challenges, some challenges
[5:30:04] we faced is with our annual inspection
[5:30:06] report, we send them over to the board
[5:30:08] each year as courtesy for the reasons
[5:30:10] I explained and we very seldom get
[5:30:14] feedback.
[5:30:15] we were really happy in december when
[5:30:17] we gott feedback and we were invited
[5:30:19] by supervisor canepa who was our
[5:30:21] liaison for probably more than a
[5:30:24] decade, yeah, so, okay, and then
[5:30:26] inclusion.
[5:30:27] sometimes we find out after the fact
[5:30:29] really important decisions have been
[5:30:31] made or there's discussions happening
[5:30:33] or planning and we don't know about it
[5:30:35] and here we are, this board of
[5:30:39] volunteers, unpaid volunteers, who
[5:30:40] dedicate their time and expertise to
[5:30:44] benefit the youth so we'd like a seat
[5:30:46] at the table.
[5:30:48] commissioner stipends and
[5:30:50] commissions also covered in welfare
[5:30:51] and institution 231, those have not
[5:30:53] been provided as long as I have been
[5:30:56] on the commission.
[5:30:57] there is a code that states that
[5:30:59] commissioners will receive a stipend
[5:31:01] for attending meetings and their
[5:31:02] expenses will be covered but we've
[5:31:06] never received that.
[5:31:09] in other counties, they've give than
[5:31:12] money to help commissioners in
[5:31:14] transportation, that was something we
[5:31:15] brought to the board maybe three years
[5:31:21] ago and at that time, I believe the
[5:31:23] president was mr. Slocum, he said
[5:31:26] that's not?
[5:31:27] >> the county was interested in doing
[5:31:29] but it is in the welfare and
[5:31:31] institutions code as a mandate.
[5:31:35] yes?
[5:31:36] so, and that is for the delinquency
[5:31:40] prevention.
[5:31:41] communication gaps and coordination
[5:31:42] and information sharing, commission
[5:31:44] funding, our commission doesn't have a
[5:31:46] budget, you heard back in december how
[5:31:48] much we self-fund and buy things on
[5:31:50] our own during the pandemic, we were
[5:31:52] using my own zoom account to conduct
[5:31:56] meetings.
[5:31:57] access to information.
[5:31:58] it is a challenge to obtain
[5:32:00] information and data to carry out our
[5:32:03] oversight responsibilities.
[5:32:07] accomplishments.
[5:32:08] we have a handbook, how to help your
[5:32:10] child after an arrest and that sits
[5:32:13] in the lobby of the juvenile hall,
[5:32:17] private defender's office, and we
[5:32:19] are in the process of updating that
[5:32:21] now and we found someone who's willing
[5:32:24] to donate their services in tongva,
[5:32:28] we will have it in three separate
[5:32:31] languages.
[5:32:33] we did the elevate voting rights
[5:32:40] program.
[5:32:43] there was supervisor speier that
[5:32:44] offered to get the 12 laptops.
[5:32:46] I want to be clear that the laptops we
[5:32:49] provide youth and the chief and I had
[5:32:53] a conversation about this, our kids
[5:32:55] who have been released from the
[5:32:58] facility do not have any technology
[5:33:00] and are enrolled in college and wish
[5:33:02] to continue.
[5:33:03] we provide them with laptops.
[5:33:05] >> I'm going to ask you to finish out
[5:33:08] your presentation.
[5:33:09] I don't want to address a specific
[5:33:11] board member, I want us to get through
[5:33:13] to the end here and we'll have board
[5:33:16] questions and keep it moving.
[5:33:18] >> the laptop initiative is -- okay,
[5:33:21] suited for success and then the peer
[5:33:23] program, the commission raised 680
[5:33:26] thousand dollars for the peer point
[5:33:29] program which we can't administer
[5:33:32] programs so we put fly in touch with
[5:33:35] those funders and they handle that
[5:33:38] contract.
[5:33:39] we are recognized as statewide
[5:33:41] leaders, I founded the california
[5:33:44] juvenile justice collaborative, I sit
[5:33:45] on the advisory group for sacramento
[5:33:50] for policy and legislative
[5:33:52] subcommittee and commissioner blanco
[5:33:53] sit on the oycr.
[5:34:05] we do policy reform, educational
[5:34:10] pansies is one that we've been working
[5:34:12] with the county office of education.
[5:34:14] superintendent marco
[5:34:17] chavez, we discovered we weren't in
[5:34:19] compliance with educational transition
[5:34:21] plan.
[5:34:22] what that means is any youth who's
[5:34:24] incarcerated over 30 days is required
[5:34:25] to have a plan on how they're going
[5:34:29] to get into school, enroll, what's
[5:34:31] going to happen, we are act timely
[5:34:33] working on that, they've worked on an
[5:34:36] mou with probation.
[5:34:38] protecting youth confidentiality, I
[5:34:39] spoke on that earlier.
[5:34:41] the strip searches, I just wanted to
[5:34:44] make one clarification, I do have a
[5:34:46] report in my hand that was sent to me
[5:34:48] by the office of youth and community
[5:34:50] restoration who investigated that
[5:34:52] incident and found the allegations to
[5:34:55] be substantiated so I have a copy of
[5:34:57] that report for clarity.
[5:35:04] visiting, after the youth bill of
[5:35:06] rights was passed, we went in and
[5:35:08] talked with then presiding judge susan
[5:35:13] about sibling visiting, we got that
[5:35:15] put through, we reduced the wait time
[5:35:18] for eyeglasses by elevating the issue,
[5:35:20] it used to take up to a year to get a
[5:35:22] pair of eyeglasses and now the wait
[5:35:24] time is about 30 days.
[5:35:26] and the youth have pillows, okay.
[5:35:34] so, some of our delinquency prevention
[5:35:38] work, that's what I'm going to show
[5:35:42] you this video , in january, we held
[5:35:47] our prevention and youth voices
[5:35:48] conference, I saw supervisor mueller
[5:35:50] there, he took the time, thank you so
[5:35:52] much for being there, that meant a
[5:35:54] lot, we didn't gate chance to talk, I
[5:35:56] appreciate you being there.
[5:35:57] but we created a video of the day that
[5:36:03] shows just the level of collaboration
[5:36:06] and work that went into this event and
[5:36:10] I think I will go ahead and share that
[5:36:12] now.
[5:36:13] ( playing video ).
[5:38:59] >> chair rasmussen, do you know how
[5:39:00] much longer this is?
[5:39:03] >> [inaudible].
[5:39:33] >> we've been going through two and a
[5:39:39] half hours now and we have a lot of
[5:39:40] items to go through.
[5:39:41] >> so, this video for those who are
[5:39:43] interested is available on our
[5:39:46] website, so it was a huge event.
[5:39:49] we raised over 30 thousand dollars,
[5:39:52] commissioner blanco, to put that
[5:39:53] together, it was sponsored by project
[5:39:56] change and the community colleges so
[5:39:58] we're proud of that work and we'll be
[5:40:04] sending you an invitation for a year
[5:40:06] coming up.
[5:40:07] when we were there in july for the
[5:40:09] inspection, it was noted that under
[5:40:15] the title 15 nutritional guidelines,
[5:40:16] it showed that we were not in
[5:40:19] compliance with menus and that the
[5:40:21] nutritional values had not been
[5:40:23] established and I understand through
[5:40:28] talking with them today, that the lady
[5:40:32] who's responsible for developing those
[5:40:34] menus and for signing off they meet
[5:40:38] the nutritional values has been out on
[5:40:40] a medical.
[5:40:41] I wanted to mention that.
[5:40:42] that is the extent of my presentation
[5:40:44] today.
[5:40:45] >> okay, do we have questions from the
[5:40:48] board?
[5:40:49] >> supervisor mueller?
[5:40:50] >> I do have a question.
[5:40:51] so, you mentioned that it takes a
[5:40:57] course of four days for all of the
[5:40:58] commissioners to do all of the
[5:41:01] inspections or just four day fords for
[5:41:04] the juvenile hall.
[5:41:05] >> yes, for the juvenile hall, they
[5:41:06] are on one campus but they are on two
[5:41:09] distinct facilities.
[5:41:10] >> how long does it take to do all the
[5:41:12] inspections for all the facilities?
[5:41:14] >> we start the process in july and we
[5:41:20] wrap up by the end of the year.
[5:41:24] >> and about how many commissioners
[5:41:26] are doing each of the inspections?
[5:41:28] >> well, commissioners, we ask they
[5:41:31] sign up for at least two and our
[5:41:35] numbers are lower than sometimes --
[5:41:39] then sometimes we need them to sign up
[5:41:41] for three.
[5:41:42] >> for each of the facilities in the
[5:41:44] county then, are there somewhere
[5:41:46] between three and four commissioners
[5:41:48] -- let me ask you this, is there any
[5:41:50] facility in the county that there's a
[5:41:52] majority of the commission to put the
[5:41:54] inspection together?
[5:41:55] >> no.
[5:41:56] and most of the time, that isn't
[5:41:58] something that the facility would like
[5:42:00] for us to show up with ten people I.
[5:42:02] doesn't really take that to do the
[5:42:04] inspection.
[5:42:05] we try and rotate and give everybody
[5:42:08] an opportunity to serve on whatever
[5:42:12] inspection team they want to, but to
[5:42:14] show up -- I know even for graduation
[5:42:17] events, probation has requested
[5:42:19] no more than three, so it's just a
[5:42:22] matter of how things work that way,
[5:42:25] but no, we share the work.
[5:42:27] that's how we do it.
[5:42:29] and then everybody weighs in,
[5:42:31] everybody votes to approve.
[5:42:33] >> alright, so earlier you said that
[5:42:36] people couldn't get the four days off
[5:42:42] to juvenile hall and additionally
[5:42:45] to that, it's your belief that the
[5:42:47] facility doesn't want more than four
[5:42:48] people?
[5:42:49] >> well, I think we should ask --
[5:42:52] that's just in my experience.
[5:42:55] the most we've ever had on the team is
[5:42:58] four but I think the best person to
[5:43:00] ask is the chief on how many -- if
[5:43:06] he'd like all ten of us to come, I
[5:43:07] don't know that we could achieve that,
[5:43:09] but we could ask him.
[5:43:12] >> chief, do you have a problem with
[5:43:13] all ten going?
[5:43:18] thank you.
[5:43:19] okay, I'm going to go ahead, I do want
[5:43:20] to try to figure this out because it's
[5:43:21] for two years in a row, it's been a
[5:43:22] very small number of people who did
[5:43:25] the inspects and like I said in that
[5:43:27] one year, three did it and only
[5:43:29] two signed.
[5:43:31] I'm not sure ms. Woke didn't sign that
[5:43:34] year?
[5:43:35] >> she left the commission by the time
[5:43:36] the report was issued and she had
[5:43:38] already left the commission.
[5:43:40] she had termed out.
[5:43:41] >> thank you.
[5:43:42] >> this year we had three,
[5:43:44] commissioner bocanegra, [inaudible], and
[5:43:46] commissioner paten.
[5:43:47] >> so, only three did the inspection
[5:43:49] the this year?
[5:43:50] >> for one we just did in july.
[5:43:52] >> okay, thank you.
[5:43:53] >> you're welcome.
[5:43:54] >> okay, any other questions?
[5:43:58] okay, I have several.
[5:44:03] okay.
[5:44:04] I'm going to start -- you know, I
[5:44:06] think we heard you reference a lot of
[5:44:14] state laws and make a lot of
[5:44:17] statements about how our county is out
[5:44:20] of compliance with funding the
[5:44:23] commission and specifically making
[5:44:25] statements and you are the chair of
[5:44:29] this commission, so I want to address
[5:44:33] like what it looks like to the public
[5:44:35] when the chair of a commission makes
[5:44:38] statements that the county is out of
[5:44:43] compliance and not providing --
[5:44:47] creating the appearance that we are
[5:44:49] not refunding a commission for
[5:44:54] essentially incurring expenses that
[5:44:55] were never approved and not refunding
[5:44:58] that to a chair or a commission, so
[5:45:00] let me be more clear.
[5:45:01] specifically for our welfare
[5:45:08] institution code 231, you shared that
[5:45:11] this county does not provide that
[5:45:13] funding and so I would like county
[5:45:17] attorney nibbelin and maybe deputy
[5:45:22] county attorney holliber to kind of
[5:45:23] give us some perspective on that,
[5:45:26] are we violating welfare institution
[5:45:28] code 231 by not providing --
[5:45:29] >> stipends.
[5:45:32] >> stipends to these commissioners?
[5:45:34] >> no, I don't think we are.
[5:45:36] section 231 of the welfare
[5:45:38] institutions code does provide that
[5:45:40] members of the jjc are entitled to
[5:45:43] have expenses that are necessary and
[5:45:46] reasonable reimbursed.
[5:45:49] when claims for reimbursement are made.
[5:45:51] and it also states that in the
[5:45:54] alternative, a county could provide
[5:45:57] for a stipend but there's no
[5:45:58] requirement that there be a stipend,
[5:46:03] so it's really a question of whether
[5:46:05] or not we receive proper claims for
[5:46:06] reimbursement for necessary expenses.
[5:46:07] >> okay.
[5:46:09] and so I want to address this because
[5:46:13] this creates a distraction from
[5:46:16] serving the young people, it creates
[5:46:18] this claim that our county is doing
[5:46:22] wrong by the commissioners and is
[5:46:24] violating the law and thus creates
[5:46:31] this kind of this insinuation that we
[5:46:34] are violating the rights of young
[5:46:36] people and that is something that I
[5:46:39] would hope wouldn't repeatedly happen
[5:46:41] but I think it's something that --
[5:46:43] it's something that has repeatedly
[5:46:45] happened.
[5:46:46] and then --
[5:46:47] >> it is our understanding --
[5:46:48] >> I'm not done, I'm sorry, one second.
[5:46:50] the other thing -- and I'll give you
[5:46:53] a chance to respond.
[5:46:55] the other thing I wanted to bring
[5:46:59] attention to, the statement that you
[5:47:00] made about the fact that the
[5:47:03] commission has incurred a lot of
[5:47:09] expenses, that some commissioners have
[5:47:11] incurred a lot of expenses that the
[5:47:13] county has not reimbursed
[5:47:14] commissioners for.
[5:47:15] the county does not reimburse
[5:47:17] commissioners for expenses that were
[5:47:20] never approved beforehand by the
[5:47:22] county and they don't even do that for
[5:47:25] staff.
[5:47:26] >> I never made that claim, supervisor.
[5:47:28] >> I'm pretty sure we all heard you
[5:47:30] say that, so go ahead and you can
[5:47:34] respond now but we've
[5:47:37] never -- we have asked for the county
[5:47:40] support in providing money for awards
[5:47:42] for outgoing commissioners such as
[5:47:46] commissioner susan swope who is our
[5:47:48] longest servicing commissioner of all
[5:47:51] time, but we don't submit for expenses
[5:47:53] and it was our understanding, we had a
[5:47:54] whole project that went into this back
[5:47:56] in -- three years ago about the
[5:47:59] welfare and institutions code and it
[5:48:00] was our understanding and through my
[5:48:01] work on the statewide commissions that
[5:48:05] other countess do receive that $25
[5:48:08] stipend per meeting up to two meetings
[5:48:09] which I think is outlined in the
[5:48:13] welfare and institutions code, but
[5:48:15] remember, we're community volunteers
[5:48:16] so we're not attorneys.
[5:48:19] and so we -- that was our
[5:48:21] interpretation, so much so we brought
[5:48:23] it to the board in the past to try and
[5:48:25] resolve it.
[5:48:27] >> okay, well, if you're not an
[5:48:28] attorney, you should not speak as if
[5:48:30] you are directly quoting law as if you
[5:48:33] know exactly what the law says.
[5:48:36] >> I believe it says that.
[5:48:37] >> I believe that's the responsibility
[5:48:40] as a chair of a commission that
[5:48:42] represents this county to not create
[5:48:44] the false illusion that that's what
[5:48:47] you're claiming as the truth.
[5:48:49] I'm going to pass it over to
[5:48:52] commissioner -- I mean, supervisor
[5:48:55] canepa?
[5:48:56] >> thank you so much.
[5:48:57] I've had the honor to serve with the
[5:48:58] commission for ten years.
[5:49:00] I worked -- I think we worked really
[5:49:02] well together, right, john.
[5:49:04] we have, and I think the good thing is
[5:49:06] what I have seen over the ten years is
[5:49:09] it's a good, healthy
[5:49:14] tension, sometimes you do certain
[5:49:15] things and it may not be status quo
[5:49:19] but what we're able to do -- and chief
[5:49:23] keene, I think you can attest to this,
[5:49:25] he does listen, right.
[5:49:26] >> he does.
[5:49:27] >> and if you look at the things,
[5:49:29] I think one of the things I was
[5:49:31] thinking about chief keene, I showed
[5:49:34] supervisor gauthier this, was sb90, we
[5:49:39] were able to work with the commission,
[5:49:41] with the department, we had 12.4
[5:49:44] million dollars and we worked
[5:49:47] collaboratively and collect I beverly
[5:49:51] beverly -- collectively to solve it
[5:49:52] so there is this built in tension, you
[5:49:55] have to recognize that but I look at
[5:49:58] the progress we've made, it's been
[5:50:00] great.
[5:50:01] now I do want to say this and I have
[5:50:04] to -- I'm not trying to come to
[5:50:11] ms. Rasmussen's defense, but I think
[5:50:13] you really care.
[5:50:15] I mean, you ran out of your pocket,
[5:50:20] she didn't seek reimbursement, I think
[5:50:21] there was a member of the board who
[5:50:24] said we should reimburse, so I think
[5:50:26] the record has to reflect that.
[5:50:30] I have no issue with you, joanne, I
[5:50:34] have no issue with the members.
[5:50:37] I think your hearts are in the right
[5:50:39] place.
[5:50:40] you care for these kids, you shouldn't
[5:50:42] be faulted for that.
[5:50:43] you should not with faulted for that,
[5:50:46] and as we move forward and I think
[5:50:49] being the longest standing member of
[5:50:52] the board here, it works out in a
[5:50:55] strange way having this commission,
[5:50:58] while you guys can be a little bit
[5:51:01] troublesome at times in a good way, I
[5:51:04] think you guys bringing these issues
[5:51:09] forward makes the hall stronger and it
[5:51:12] makes them -- the kids feel someone
[5:51:14] they can talk to as advocates and I
[5:51:16] think it's important, it's a part of
[5:51:18] the process, it's messy, but I think
[5:51:21] it's important and so I'm glad we're
[5:51:23] having this study session and you've
[5:51:27] got to -- you have to have faith and I
[5:51:28] have seen it over the period of ten
[5:51:30] years, you haven't got everything, the
[5:51:33] commission hasn't got everything
[5:51:34] they've wanted.
[5:51:35] that's not a bad thing but
[5:51:38] there has been progress and I do think
[5:51:41] that this commission is really
[5:51:42] important, you have done some valuable
[5:51:44] work.
[5:51:45] plaid dam chair?
[5:51:46] >> thank you so much, supervisor, we
[5:51:47] appreciate all the years we've worked
[5:51:49] together, thank you for those comments.
[5:51:52] >> supervisor speier and then mueller.
[5:51:58] >> I think there are a lot of
[5:52:01] wonderful people very committed to
[5:52:03] these kids on the comprising and --
[5:52:08] commission and within the probation
[5:52:10] department.
[5:52:11] I can't begin to tell you how
[5:52:12] impressed I was.
[5:52:14] I'm still unclear about this this
[5:52:16] reimbursement issue.
[5:52:17] if in fact they file a claim for
[5:52:21] meetings or for what else, travel
[5:52:24] expense, I mean, what is it they can
[5:52:26] file for, and if -- this is in the
[5:52:29] law, so other commissions don't have
[5:52:31] that benefit, but if it's in the law
[5:52:33] and they file a claim, they will be
[5:52:36] reimbursed?
[5:52:37] >> if it is for expenses that are
[5:52:39] deemed necessary and appropriate for
[5:52:41] the operation of the commission, the
[5:52:42] answer to that, yeah, I think,
[5:52:44] supervisor, would be yes, but we do
[5:52:47] have processes in the county for the
[5:52:49] means by which people make claims for
[5:52:51] work that they do that is necessary
[5:52:53] and related to their employment for
[5:52:55] example, and similarly for work has
[5:52:57] you might do as commissioner.
[5:52:59] so, we would assess I think the claims
[5:53:01] and work with the controller on the
[5:53:03] claims if we got them along similar
[5:53:06] lioness but that's a process we would
[5:53:08] be looking at.
[5:53:09] I'm not aware we've gotten claims that
[5:53:11] have been denied.
[5:53:12] >> I think the best thing for you to
[5:53:14] do is have a conversation with the
[5:53:15] controller to find out what tends to
[5:53:18] be acceptable if I believe that the
[5:53:22] commissioners have claims that aren't
[5:53:25] reimbursed in and the welfare
[5:53:28] institutions code provides for it.
[5:53:29] >> thank you very much.
[5:53:31] >> supervisor mueller?
[5:53:32] >> yeah, I appreciate your comments,
[5:53:34] supervisor canepa and supervisor
[5:53:36] speier and ms. Rasmussen, I'm not
[5:53:39] finding fault with you, what I'm
[5:53:42] struggling with, I think the process
[5:53:44] is messy but I don't think it
[5:53:45] should continue the way it has.
[5:53:47] I think it needs cleaning up.
[5:53:50] this has spilled over into these
[5:53:53] chambers multiple times and today we
[5:53:55] have spent an inordinate amount of
[5:53:58] time on it and because of the way it's
[5:54:01] been presented process wise, they're
[5:54:02] not entirely clear to me.
[5:54:04] I would respectfully indicate to the
[5:54:08] commission, you need to get more
[5:54:09] people engaged in those inspections
[5:54:11] and have more voices than yourself
[5:54:13] presenting them, ms. Rasmussen, you
[5:54:15] are a wonderful advocate, but there
[5:54:20] needs to be -- and I need to see other
[5:54:22] commissioners in the writing of that
[5:54:24] report.
[5:54:25] as you have seen today, there are many
[5:54:26] people who have come forward who have
[5:54:28] presented a lot of information and
[5:54:29] when I look at your report and I see
[5:54:33] over two reporters your signature of
[5:54:35] those two reports are about 40% of the
[5:54:37] signatures, you can see where my
[5:54:40] camber on the weight of what's being
[5:54:41] presented of this this could be from
[5:54:44] one point of view and you want to add
[5:54:46] more points of view to that to provide
[5:54:48] weight to it.
[5:54:50] I think it's -- I frankly think 225
[5:54:53] requires more with respect to the
[5:54:55] inspection of duty and how it's being
[5:54:58] carried out, at least in good faith
[5:55:00] with how 225 was written.
[5:55:02] so, I really want to go ahead and talk
[5:55:04] to -- I don't know, and that's the
[5:55:09] other thing I have issue right now
[5:55:10] with, I don't really understand would
[5:55:11] who the entity is that has oversight
[5:55:12] of how the commission conducts itself
[5:55:15] with respect to --
[5:55:16] >> we provide our reports to bscc.
[5:55:20] >> okay, well, I would like to figure
[5:55:23] out with county counsel how we can
[5:55:24] work with you to clarify that process
[5:55:26] to make your life and our life easier.
[5:55:29] >> they've always -- craig
[5:55:31] thompson is our representative, he's
[5:55:34] been helpful and he always gives us
[5:55:36] good feedback that our reports are
[5:55:38] helpful and they conduct biannual,
[5:55:40] every two years, and he's commented
[5:55:42] our reports are very helpful to him.
[5:55:44] >> I want to also be very clear, what is
[5:55:47] clear to me is our professionals
[5:55:50] within are doing a tremendous job in
[5:55:52] difficult situations.
[5:55:54] the numbers, the change, when I look
[5:55:56] at the change, what happened in 2021
[5:55:59] after realignment in terms of
[5:56:04] incidents, how that affected our
[5:56:06] professionals at the hall, realignment
[5:56:09] had major impact.
[5:56:10] I was looking at that chart trying to
[5:56:12] figure out what it was and that's
[5:56:15] exactly when realignment happened, the
[5:56:17] level of offender you have seen and
[5:56:18] the challenges you have seen has
[5:56:21] changed significantly, so I think we
[5:56:22] values to provide some empathy in that
[5:56:24] circumstance and I think process will
[5:56:27] help us really sort of instead of
[5:56:29] having what really feels like a
[5:56:32] yelling match happening here, they're
[5:56:35] getting yelled at and trying to
[5:56:36] respond, if we provide more process to
[5:56:38] it, perhaps we can provide more
[5:56:40] clarity on what needs to be addressed
[5:56:42] in a way where we're not trying to
[5:56:44] pull needles out of the hay stack.
[5:56:47] thank you though, all, if for the
[5:56:48] presentations today.
[5:56:50] they were incredibly helpful and
[5:56:52] trying to figure out what comes next
[5:56:54] on that process perspective.
[5:56:56] >> thank you, supervisor gauthier?
[5:56:57] >> I want to thank you for your
[5:56:59] report but I do just have some
[5:57:01] questions going back to the december
[5:57:05] presentation.
[5:57:06] my memory serves me correctly, there
[5:57:07] was 70 thousand dollars that was spent
[5:57:10] that you weren't reimbursed for.
[5:57:13] there's procurement question too, so
[5:57:16] there's a way that the facility does
[5:57:21] procurement, so you should have
[5:57:22] approval before you go out and
[5:57:23] purchase things, is that not the way
[5:57:24] things would be set up?
[5:57:25] >> I never saw reimbursement, it was
[5:57:28] never my intention.
[5:57:29] I just happened to mention it to day
[5:57:31] vid and he was blown away by the
[5:57:35] number.
[5:57:36] david elevated that.
[5:57:37] I was -- it waser supervisor canepa, I
[5:57:39] was not looking for any reimbursement
[5:57:42] whatsoever.
[5:57:43] >> I'm trying to figure out the
[5:57:46] procurement process for the youth that
[5:57:47] were in the facility.
[5:57:49] is it anybody that can go purchase
[5:57:50] something on your own or should you go
[5:57:52] through the facility and have a
[5:57:54] procurement process.
[5:57:55] if somebody needs shoes, shouldn't
[5:57:57] that go through the facilities, they're
[5:57:59] able to purchase shoes before
[5:58:01] someone just purchases shoes and says
[5:58:03] the facility isn't doing their job?
[5:58:05] >> I think we're talking about a
[5:58:07] bigger issue.
[5:58:08] so, we're talking -- there were times
[5:58:11] when eyeglasses were taking a long
[5:58:12] time and I would go to costco and get
[5:58:15] the prescription fill sod the kids
[5:58:17] could have glasses for school, that
[5:58:21] happened mull multiple times but for
[5:58:23] the vast majority of incidents and
[5:58:25] expenses are when they are out of the
[5:58:29] facility, there's small number of kids
[5:58:30] in the facility.
[5:58:31] this is when they're out on the
[5:58:34] street, mom's having trouble paying
[5:58:35] for rent, maybe utilities are
[5:58:37] getting shut off, they don't have a
[5:58:39] clipper card or trance oration to get
[5:58:41] to school, they don't have school
[5:58:43] clothes so I just took it upon myself,
[5:58:45] not in my capacity as a commissioner
[5:58:49] but as human being that recognized a
[5:58:54] fundamental need that I filled.
[5:58:55] >> I understand, but I think it was
[5:58:56] presented differently or that's the
[5:58:59] way I understood it, it wasn't
[5:59:00] presented that these youth were
[5:59:02] outside of facility, it felt like they
[5:59:04] were in the facility and they were not
[5:59:07] receiving the items that they needed.
[5:59:09] that's what we were trying to get to
[5:59:11] the bottom of.
[5:59:12] it's very different if you come in and
[5:59:14] say these young people are already
[5:59:15] home and I'm helping them, again in
[5:59:17] december, it felt like they were in
[5:59:19] the facilities and not getting shoes and
[5:59:22] any other things they were getting in
[5:59:24] the facility.
[5:59:27] >> I appreciate for that feedback, I
[5:59:29] appreciate that, I'm not used to
[5:59:32] giving these presentations.
[5:59:34] >> so, I do want to -- in putting
[5:59:37] together this study session, we put a
[5:59:39] lot of thought into making sure that
[5:59:41] there would be a lot of different
[5:59:44] perspectives about the entire system,
[5:59:46] we have typically heard from one side
[5:59:47] and I do want to acknowledge that
[5:59:50] supervisor canepa was a liaison to the
[5:59:54] jjdpc for many, many years and when I
[5:59:57] took it over, I did so with the
[5:59:59] intention of working more closely with
[6:00:01] the commission, I'll be honest, you
[6:00:06] may hear a sense of frustration coming
[6:00:08] from me and I'll be upfront about
[6:00:12] it, it is there and I won't pretend
[6:00:14] it's not.
[6:00:15] part of that has been something that I
[6:00:18] think supervisor mueller without us
[6:00:20] ever speaking about this has picked up
[6:00:22] on and that is that there is a real
[6:00:25] tension when it comes to this
[6:00:27] commission and frankly the leadership
[6:00:28] of this commission
[6:00:35] and the tension and not a single
[6:00:37] person interacting with
[6:00:39] this commission, and I would take the
[6:00:41] liberty of saying almost all community
[6:00:43] partners and county departments feel
[6:00:47] when trying to collaborate with this
[6:00:51] commission.
[6:00:52] I have been personally to several of
[6:00:55] the meetings and when I have attended
[6:01:00] and tried to -- as a supervisor, come
[6:01:02] to this commission and tried to work
[6:01:05] with this commission have felt like I
[6:01:08] am being interrogated, have seen other
[6:01:11] community partners be anxious about
[6:01:14] speaking with the commission because
[6:01:15] of that same treatment and in trying
[6:01:19] to support this commission, we sent
[6:01:21] out a survey about two weeks ago and
[6:01:26] this survey was I would say very
[6:01:29] open-ended, where do you need more
[6:01:31] training, where do you need support,
[6:01:33] do you understand the mission of your
[6:01:36] commission, do you understand -- like,
[6:01:39] do you need like -- you know, what are
[6:01:44] areas you want to explore more, what
[6:01:46] are things you need.
[6:01:48] we haven't gotten a single response
[6:01:50] back and my understanding is that it
[6:01:54] has been -- there have been meetings
[6:01:57] potentially in violation of the brown
[6:01:58] act happening to discuss this survey
[6:02:03] and to have one single response from
[6:02:06] the entire commission instead of
[6:02:08] commissioners engaging in just a
[6:02:11] genuine feedback process and working
[6:02:12] with the board and that's problematic.
[6:02:16] it really is.
[6:02:18] I want this commission to work
[6:02:21] collaboratively and to serve young
[6:02:24] people in true partnership with every
[6:02:27] other community partner.
[6:02:28] I think it's possible.
[6:02:29] I want us to get there.
[6:02:32] and I was hoping that during this
[6:02:34] presentation, that we could put some
[6:02:37] of the digs aside but I believe they
[6:02:43] still have come up and it makes me
[6:02:46] feel a little defensive and I think
[6:02:49] that's what has come up.
[6:02:53] >> supervisor, if I could address the
[6:02:56] survey.
[6:02:57] we met as a juvenile justice
[6:02:58] commission which is not -- doesn't
[6:02:59] have to comply with the brown act to
[6:03:02] decide how --
[6:03:03] >> but there is no juvenile justice
[6:03:05] commission, there's a jjdpc,.
[6:03:08] >> we're two separate bodies with
[6:03:10] two separate mandates but we also hold
[6:03:13] separate meetings as a jjc and we have
[6:03:16] done that and we hold closed sessions,
[6:03:19] some jjc's only meet in private so we
[6:03:21] did not violate the brown act but this
[6:03:24] was -- the survey came as joint
[6:03:27] commission survey, so we needed to
[6:03:28] look at what that was going to look
[6:03:30] like because it was an evaluation of
[6:03:33] -- it wasn't specific about which
[6:03:37] mandates and responsibilities it was
[6:03:39] seeking information for, so it's on
[6:03:41] our agenda for tonight because we can
[6:03:44] -- now that the jjc has decided this
[6:03:47] needs to be a delinquency
[6:03:50] prevention survey, we can only discuss
[6:03:52] it in public under delinquency
[6:03:54] prevention and it's on tonight's
[6:03:55] agenda, so we try very hard to comply
[6:03:58] with the rules.
[6:04:00] and I apologize if my words come
[6:04:03] across as digs.
[6:04:04] to me, they are truth and to me, I
[6:04:09] speak them, I bring them here because
[6:04:12] I'm concerned.
[6:04:15] >> madam president, can we move on.
[6:04:19] >> yes, let's move on.
[6:04:21] >> we now will welcome fly and live in
[6:04:27] peace and then I think chief keene
[6:04:29] wants to close us out.
[6:04:30] so I don't have names for -- yeah, we
[6:04:38] have public comment as well.
[6:04:39] welcome, sorry.
[6:04:40] >> no, I'm good.
[6:04:43] alright.
[6:04:46] hi, I am melissa pulling and I'm the
[6:04:48] managing director of innovation at fly
[6:04:49] or fresh lifelines for youth, on a
[6:04:52] personal note, I'm going to make this
[6:04:56] the fastest version of what fly does in
[6:04:59] history, fly, if you will, we
[6:05:03] do a lot in san mateo county and have
[6:05:05] for many years and we'll do an
[6:05:07] overview in this presentation.
[6:05:08] aim born and raised in san mateo
[6:05:10] county and honored and privileged to
[6:05:11] have done this work for as long as I
[6:05:15] have.
[6:05:19] okay.
[6:05:20] fresh lifelines for youth or fly is a
[6:05:22] non-profit and has been operating --
[6:05:29] it started in 2000 down the road.
[6:05:33] this is to disrupt the pipeline to
[6:05:36] prison and advance justice in
[6:05:37] california and beyond.
[6:05:38] this is what we do every day, these
[6:05:42] are our young people, this is what
[6:05:44] we're in the pursuit of excellence for.
[6:05:47] we are in five counties across the bay,
[6:05:51] I'm speaking specifically about san
[6:05:52] mateo county.
[6:05:54] this is a rudimentary school to prison
[6:05:57] pipeline, you can see in san mateo
[6:05:58] county, we have six different
[6:06:00] programs that are meant to be offer
[6:06:02] ramps of this pipeline.
[6:06:03] the first three are specifically
[6:06:05] prevention programs, we want young
[6:06:07] people to interact with us here to
[6:06:08] never enter the system at all.
[6:06:10] this is where we serve a large
[6:06:11] majority of our young people and the
[6:06:16] leadership programs, the last three
[6:06:17] entry reps are all programs and run
[6:06:21] as interventions when young people
[6:06:22] have come across with the pipeline.
[6:06:24] we served over 750 young people last
[6:06:27] year alone in this county
[6:06:28] specifically, there's some outcomes
[6:06:33] we're proud of.
[6:06:34] not because of fly necessarily but
[6:06:35] because of the young people and the
[6:06:36] work that shows the work they've put
[6:06:38] in, these are assessments to show
[6:06:40] reduction of need, a lack of new
[6:06:44] charges, recidivism, increase in their
[6:06:46] educational goals and building their
[6:06:48] social and emotional skills.
[6:06:50] I'll just put this slide up briefly,
[6:06:53] just to show we partner across the
[6:06:55] entire county.
[6:06:57] we are everywhere as you can see,
[6:06:58] there's a long list of partners, we
[6:07:00] partner with most schools, most
[6:07:02] continuation schools and
[6:07:04] traditional high schools to offer
[6:07:06] programming, college campuses,
[6:07:08] juvenile hall and the jails across the
[6:07:11] entire county.
[6:07:12] we are in a lot of places.
[6:07:15] okay.
[6:07:16] I'm going to start not at the
[6:07:17] beginning but at the reentry program
[6:07:19] because there's been discussion of
[6:07:20] that.
[6:07:21] pride does become a program for our
[6:07:23] young people levering the institution.
[6:07:25] they have spent time in juvenile hall,
[6:07:28] the age range from 12-18, anybody that
[6:07:30] spent my time there has access to our
[6:07:33] programing and they receive a
[6:07:36] professional coach to work with them
[6:07:38] and develop plans based on what
[6:07:40] their needs are and what their goals
[6:07:42] are and they meet with professional
[6:07:44] coaches to have their needs met.
[6:07:48] it was mentioned a certain number of
[6:07:49] hours and time spent with them.
[6:07:51] we have minimum requirements that are
[6:07:54] deliverables for our staff, if a young
[6:07:56] person needs more time than that, had
[6:07:58] that they cannot have that, I have
[6:08:00] never said that.
[6:08:02] we do individualized coach management
[6:08:04] and we give the time with their coach
[6:08:06] in order to get whatever they need
[6:08:08] from the program, that's entering into
[6:08:10] school or basic needs support or post
[6:08:13] secondary, we meet them where they are
[6:08:15] and focus on individual case
[6:08:17] management.
[6:08:18] they have access to a career pathways
[6:08:20] navigator, that is there for
[6:08:22] educational support and exposure to
[6:08:24] different career paths so they have
[6:08:26] access to the professional coach and
[6:08:28] that person.
[6:08:30] okay, we also have our reps program,
[6:08:35] this is for young people in custody in
[6:08:36] the sytf unit, they are also given a
[6:08:38] professional coach that does one on
[6:08:40] one in custody case management.
[6:08:42] that is pivot for fly, we've never
[6:08:45] done in custody coaching before, sytf
[6:08:49] never existed before.
[6:08:51] the coaches work with the young people
[6:08:52] on building their social, emotional
[6:08:56] skills, they receive workshops once a
[6:08:58] week towards professional development
[6:08:59] and life skillets and cockering from
[6:09:02] other staff members and we have other
[6:09:03] professionals come in and talk to them
[6:09:06] about what their industries are like
[6:09:07] and they can interview them and ask
[6:09:09] them questions, this program has
[6:09:11] been built within the last several
[6:09:12] years and has expanded their
[6:09:14] services with the recent contract and
[6:09:16] we also can serve 707 offenses that
[6:09:20] are not in the security treatment
[6:09:22] facility as well.
[6:09:23] we're going to have the capacity to do
[6:09:25] that and to both programs with this
[6:09:28] new contract, we're adding a credible
[6:09:30] messaging mentoring component.
[6:09:55] we're adding on this additional level
[6:09:56] of programming and we're excited to
[6:09:58] build that out this year, we're about
[6:10:00] six years in, we're excited to start
[6:10:02] matching young people and dinging this
[6:10:04] intervention to really support the
[6:10:08] most vulnerable young people, the
[6:10:10] highest need.
[6:10:12] our law program, that is where young
[6:10:15] people are in the school sites, we
[6:10:18] facilitate a 12 week curriculum, ron
[6:10:20] mentioned that most people don't know
[6:10:22] what the miranda rights are and we
[6:10:25] hope hundreds of people around the
[6:10:29] country know, what young people's
[6:10:31] rights are, the laws and how young
[6:10:33] people can be advocates themselves for
[6:10:35] the changes they want to see in their
[6:10:37] community, that's what that program
[6:10:40] does, it's our largest touch
[6:10:42] program, we serve the most young
[6:10:44] people.
[6:10:45] peer point is a diversion program,
[6:10:46] this is offered at schools and through
[6:10:48] police departments, that is meant to
[6:10:51] offer alternative suspension or
[6:10:52] arrests, it's true diversion in the
[6:10:54] sense that young people instead of
[6:10:57] being suspended, they will do
[6:10:59] restorative circles with their peers,
[6:11:00] foes can you on accountability,
[6:11:04] healing and approach, that's men to
[6:11:05] divert from the system in the schools,
[6:11:08] that's primarily our focus right now,
[6:11:10] police departments have been trickier,
[6:11:11] we're open to it, but we're focusing
[6:11:15] on the school prevention aspect of
[6:11:17] things.
[6:11:18] I will mention that the a former
[6:11:19] commission on the jjdpc did find this
[6:11:22] opportunity for us and really
[6:11:24] developed it and we were entrusted to
[6:11:27] provide the programming and have done
[6:11:29] so, that funding is no longer
[6:11:31] there, we have found ways to scale it
[6:11:33] through the dedication partnerships
[6:11:35] and just the commitment of the fly
[6:11:37] team itself.
[6:11:39] and last lay is our leadership program
[6:11:41] which is 26 young people that work
[6:11:43] with a coacher throughout the school
[6:11:45] year, they build their leadership
[6:11:47] skills and learn on world issues,
[6:11:51] they receive one on one coaching, we
[6:11:53] have a fun retreat as well.
[6:11:55] that is all I have, I'll leave you
[6:11:58] with some youth quotes, I promised
[6:12:00] that was fast as I could do it.
[6:12:02] >> that was really fast and I want to
[6:12:05] appreciate it, I appreciate your team,
[6:12:07] I was like who are those people.
[6:12:09] I saw some of them in the pictures.
[6:12:11] >> I had a question about something
[6:12:13] that I saw but I'm -- did you have any
[6:12:17] questions?
[6:12:18] do my colleagues have questions?
[6:12:19] one of your programs -- I can't
[6:12:23] remember, I was going to say if you
[6:12:24] need help connecting with any police
[6:12:27] departments, every supervisor here has
[6:12:30] connections to polices departments and
[6:12:32] we would love -- well, I'll speak for
[6:12:37] myself, I'll take what I heard earlier
[6:12:40] today to heart, yeah.
[6:12:42] >> especially if they don't have their
[6:12:47] own diversion, it is a great
[6:12:48] opportunity for us, we're doing that.
[6:12:49] if anybody knows any credible
[6:12:52] messenger mentors, people that would
[6:12:54] like to give back to the community, find
[6:12:57] us.
[6:12:58] >> okay.
[6:12:59] >> thank you so much.
[6:13:01] supervisor gauthier?
[6:13:02] >> through the
[6:13:03] chair, I want to say I appreciate
[6:13:04] fly, all the work that you do, I
[6:13:05] want to give a huge shout-out to
[6:13:09] thurmond wade who is representing you
[6:13:10] in all spaces all the time ensuring
[6:13:13] that you are being represented, so
[6:13:15] just appreciate you and I
[6:13:18] attended a few of the events and I
[6:13:20] know the work you're doing and the
[6:13:22] impact you're having on young people
[6:13:24] on their lives, they're graduating
[6:13:27] from college similar to live in peace
[6:13:29] and they're doing so much better in
[6:13:31] their lives so thank you for being at
[6:13:32] the table.
[6:13:34] I'm looking forward to live in peaches
[6:13:36] presentation as well, I appreciate
[6:13:37] your work.
[6:13:38] >> thank you.
[6:13:39] >> I know what I was going to say
[6:13:40] earlier.
[6:13:41] I wanted to say thank you, like, when
[6:13:44] we hear things like our youth don't
[6:13:47] get services, this is a service that
[6:13:49] our youth get that probation has a
[6:13:53] contract with that is amazing and is
[6:13:57] worthy of respect and is worthy of
[6:13:59] celebration, so thank you and, you
[6:14:04] know, culturally, like, competent
[6:14:07] services are -- they're not always
[6:14:08] there and when they are, they're
[6:14:12] extremely valuable and that lived
[6:14:14] experience is gold to these young
[6:14:15] people.
[6:14:16] thank you, supervisor mueller?
[6:14:18] >> I saw you like about to click.
[6:14:21] okay.
[6:14:22] thank you.
[6:14:23] thank you so much.
[6:14:24] >> thank you.
[6:14:25] >> I think we have live in peace up
[6:14:28] next.
[6:14:31] welcome.
[6:14:34] >> hello.
[6:14:36] thank you, guys, I know -- I probably
[6:14:38] won't be that quick, that was
[6:14:41] impressive, but I'm dr. Sterns lagwood
[6:14:45] from live in peace, I live and
[6:14:49] breathe east palo alto, menlo park and
[6:14:54] redwood city, eugene jackson is down
[6:14:57] there, I'm going to be the speaker.
[6:14:59] live in peace, our mission is just to
[6:15:03] help young people reclaim the vision
[6:15:05] for their future, we do that by
[6:15:07] removing barriers giving access, by
[6:15:12] pushing people forward to be their
[6:15:15] best personal self.
[6:15:16] I think our secret sauce, we're
[6:15:19] similar to fly in some ways, our
[6:15:21] secret size is our staff.
[6:15:24] that's the next -- our staff are from
[6:15:27] east palo alto, from menlo park and from
[6:15:31] redwood city, born and raised, I'm the
[6:15:33] newest member and I'm from 1987, so
[6:15:36] I've put some work in myself so,, we
[6:15:42] are previously incarcerated, we are
[6:15:43] college edge skates, we are social
[6:15:46] workers, we are -- we represent our
[6:15:50] community and we know the kids before we
[6:15:52] go in, we know their families, we know
[6:15:54] them while they're in and we know when
[6:15:56] they get out.
[6:15:57] I think we are famously a wrap around
[6:16:00] service in ways that only people that
[6:16:03] live -- it's personal for us.
[6:16:06] >> it's personal when you don't make
[6:16:07] it because you're our neighbor, you're
[6:16:10] our god son, you're our friend, so
[6:16:12] we're committed to this and we love
[6:16:13] working with the juvenile hall.
[6:16:17] just some quick things.
[6:16:20] we are -- we focus on young people
[6:16:25] that have no been served by other
[6:16:26] communities, by other organizations.
[6:16:28] live in peace comes out of rest in
[6:16:31] peace, we realize that our young
[6:16:33] people knew how to celebrate death and
[6:16:35] knew what to do when kids got out,
[6:16:39] their friends got out of prison, but
[6:16:41] they didn't know thousand live -- how
[6:16:44] to live in peace, so everything we do
[6:16:46] is based out of the concept that
[6:16:48] alive and free is baseline and we know
[6:16:50] how to get you there, we know how to
[6:16:53] give you good information, good advice
[6:16:54] and we'll walk with you until you
[6:16:58] figure it out yourself.
[6:16:59] we have long term over 40 years
[6:17:02] experience, we're deeply rooted but I
[6:17:04] think the other thing is we were
[6:17:06] designed to intersect with systems so
[6:17:08] we know what we do as a non-profit, we
[6:17:10] get in the little crevices, we knee a
[6:17:16] school cannot do all that or juvenile
[6:17:18] hall, but we intersect as a community
[6:17:21] where they cannot do it so that's why
[6:17:23] we believe in a partnership between
[6:17:26] non-profits and systems are legally
[6:17:28] important and I will say I don't know
[6:17:31] anybody that's doing it better than
[6:17:33] them right now.
[6:17:37] these are our programs and I'll
[6:17:40] highlight a few of them, all are based
[6:17:42] on young people that historically do
[6:17:45] not make -- swag is something that
[6:17:48] mike callagy and live in peace and a
[6:17:50] couple of others from east palo alto
[6:17:52] came up with connie back there, but to
[6:17:55] date, we have 99% graduation rate of
[6:18:02] high-schoolers and these are young
[6:18:04] people that are justice involved, they
[6:18:06] are reentry, they are suspended and
[6:18:09] we're incredibly proud of that and
[6:18:11] that's the kids coming in and out of
[6:18:14] juvenile hall, that's why we work well
[6:18:17] with mill crest and with san mateo
[6:18:19] county of education, we have a gap
[6:18:21] year, we have trades, so if you're not
[6:18:25] ready -- if -- trades is not just
[6:18:27] being ready to not go to college, hell,
[6:18:29] you have a good opportunity to make a
[6:18:31] lot of money and so we have a pretty
[6:18:34] robust trades program.
[6:18:35] we have a college and career program
[6:18:37] where we do almost a million dollars
[6:18:39] of scholarships every year and we have
[6:18:43] an 88% graduation rate and 14% is the
[6:18:46] national average of this demographic,
[6:18:49] so, I would like to take all the
[6:18:52] credit but it's our secret sauce that
[6:18:54] does the work and we're proud of it.
[6:18:57] we also just for who we are, we
[6:19:02] started a bike shop and our kids
[6:19:07] started getting -- intersecting with
[6:19:09] the polices because of bikes, we would
[6:19:10] start a bike shop, the kids would
[6:19:13] bring the facebook bikes there, we
[6:19:18] would get them a different bike but
[6:19:19] then it became -- it was great,
[6:19:21] facebook loved us too for that, but
[6:19:23] also we now train young people how to
[6:19:25] work on bikes and we serve the whole
[6:19:28] community and we have kids that are
[6:19:30] now college and they are working at
[6:19:34] their colleges on bikes, so we have a
[6:19:36] lot of things we do.
[6:19:38] we'll go to the next one.
[6:19:41] our tag line is when you see yourself
[6:19:43] in the future, you make decisions to
[6:19:45] get there.
[6:19:46] that's a lot of what we're doing is
[6:19:48] we're helping young people see
[6:19:50] themselves for their beauty and their
[6:19:51] power and it doesn't matter where you
[6:19:53] are, if you're in juvenile hall, you're
[6:19:56] in juvenile hall, if you're out,
[6:19:58] you're out.
[6:19:59] every single young person -- nobody
[6:20:02] removed going to juvenile hall or jail
[6:20:04] for life, it's a process after
[6:20:07] decision after decision and so if we
[6:20:09] can intersect these decisions and
[6:20:11] intersect the person -- I was just at
[6:20:14] csm today, one of the kids that's out,
[6:20:18] he came, he's like, hey, miss, you see
[6:20:21] me as a college student, I'm like,
[6:20:23] hey, boy, I see you.
[6:20:25] where I last saw him was in juvenile
[6:20:27] hall but he's trance sighing to see
[6:20:31] himself as college students, we know
[6:20:33] that's so important, we wrap around
[6:20:35] students, we provide financial services,
[6:20:37] we provide pretty much anything that
[6:20:38] they need.
[6:20:43] okay, so we're also in the hall, we
[6:20:46] are there five days as week with six
[6:20:49] staff, eugene is there, he's the big
[6:20:52] dog, and I think he brings in the live
[6:20:55] in peace spirit where we're just
[6:20:58] constantly working to serve the system
[6:21:02] that is -- it really has the challenge
[6:21:04] of keeping kids safe, keeping the
[6:21:06] community safe, helping rehab young
[6:21:09] people and so what we do in juvenile
[6:21:12] hall is we life coach, we work on the
[6:21:15] individual plans.
[6:21:19] we do aod, alcohol and drug with
[6:21:22] mindfulness, we do workforce
[6:21:23] development so they're ready when they
[6:21:27] get out.
[6:21:30] they have skills, interviews capacity,
[6:21:34] the most exciting thing we're doing is
[6:21:35] we brought in a construction team
[6:21:37] where our young people are learning to
[6:21:40] three days a week, they are planning
[6:21:45] and building projects and they're
[6:21:46] learning how to use all the tools,
[6:21:50] they have all the different
[6:21:53] certificates and then we're also doing
[6:21:56] the support to drive young people
[6:21:58] where they need to be for the young
[6:22:01] people that are on their way out.
[6:22:03] so we're driving kids to college, and
[6:22:06] we're helping with all that so,, I
[6:22:08] don't know the you know, there is a
[6:22:10] young person in sonoma state right now
[6:22:13] that also comes home on the
[6:22:16] weekend, that's a big deal.
[6:22:17] I don't know who else is doing that
[6:22:19] and the partnership going on with
[6:22:21] project change, with project rebounds,
[6:22:23] those are not easy to do, it's hard to
[6:22:27] get all these organizations to talk
[6:22:29] together and to move a student that is
[6:22:32] also incarcerated to have a college
[6:22:34] experience, that is not easy and
[6:22:36] that takes a lot of work and a lot of
[6:22:39] bending, so we're super excited about that
[6:22:41] and we have a reentry diviner --
[6:22:45] everything we do includes young people
[6:22:47] out of being incarcerated, life
[6:22:50] coaching, college support, job
[6:22:52] support, everything we're doing.
[6:22:55] so, the other thing is we do have a
[6:22:56] federal grant that is -- we've been
[6:22:59] able to hire 25 young people that were
[6:23:02] incarcerated this year, so we have 25
[6:23:07] students that have jobs that were
[6:23:08] incarcerated at juvenile hall, we also
[6:23:11] have -- we're training them to be
[6:23:14] leaders and so I think overall, what
[6:23:15] we are seeing is all the -- we're not
[6:23:19] the only ones, we partner whoever we
[6:23:23] can partner with.
[6:23:24] it is coming in the direction from the
[6:23:31] juvenile hall, I'm sure there are
[6:23:33] things we can fix.
[6:23:34] in honesty, I'm so proud and so
[6:23:36] hopeful for the work that we're doing
[6:23:38] and it's like I said, it's personal,
[6:23:41] it's our neighbors, it's our frenz,
[6:23:43] and -- friends, and I wouldn't be up
[6:23:47] here talking about something has was
[6:23:49] disrespectful to my neighbor, I
[6:23:50] feel sure and strong about our work
[6:23:52] and about the system that we're
[6:23:53] working with.
[6:23:56] do you have any questions?
[6:23:57] >> thank you so much, any questions?
[6:24:01] >> supervisor gauthier?
[6:24:04] >> thank you.
[6:24:06] I sat on the board for years so I know
[6:24:09] firsthand the young people, the lives
[6:24:11] you're really impacting and how you're
[6:24:13] changing east palo alto and the bike
[6:24:15] program and the bike courses that you
[6:24:18] do, just you're really giving back to
[6:24:20] the community as a whole and I want to
[6:24:29] thank you for live in peace through
[6:24:31] the swag person because it has made a
[6:24:33] difference for many young people.
[6:24:34] >> if I can through the chair,
[6:24:36] supervisor gauthier, you hit the nail
[6:24:37] on the head.
[6:24:38] this is an incredible organization and
[6:24:41] heather and eugene are the real deal,
[6:24:45] they're helping kids every day, it was
[6:24:47] our pleasure to partner with you and
[6:24:48] continue to partner with you.
[6:24:50] >> thank you, I wanted to say you
[6:24:53] mentioned project rebound, as a
[6:24:57] family member of a lot of people that
[6:25:00] were formerly incarcerated, I did my
[6:25:03] college internship with project
[6:25:04] rebound, so I got to reconnect with
[6:25:07] jason bell that has run that
[6:25:08] program for many years at sf state,
[6:25:12] and it's true, those relationships
[6:25:14] take intention to build and to
[6:25:17] maintain and thank you for all has you
[6:25:18] do.
[6:25:19] I remember when I heard about live in
[6:25:20] peace, I said I want that in san mateo
[6:25:23] in my district, so thank you so much.
[6:25:24] anyone else?
[6:25:27] no?
[6:25:28] okay, thank you so much.
[6:25:29] and with that, I think we'll hand it
[6:25:31] over to chief keene to wrap us up and
[6:25:35] yeah, I don't know what time we're
[6:25:38] going to end today because we still
[6:25:40] have a lot to go to.
[6:25:41] >> I want to go quickly, I know we have
[6:25:43] public comment and I want to get to
[6:25:45] that.
[6:25:46] I want to -- and once again, if you can
[6:25:49] go to the last page with concerns.
[6:25:51] I want to say once again how much I
[6:25:53] appreciate the opportunity to have
[6:25:55] these discussions today.
[6:25:56] I think they were very well and
[6:25:59] important and needed.
[6:26:00] and I certainly want to support
[6:26:02] something that supervisor canepa said.
[6:26:04] I've been your chief for 13 years,
[6:26:06] during that time, I have had a mason
[6:26:09] relationship with iterations of the
[6:26:12] jjdpc.
[6:26:13] it has had different leadership during
[6:26:15] those times and we've not always seen
[6:26:17] eye to eye, and as you said, I think
[6:26:20] really wisely, supervisor, it's been a
[6:26:22] healthy intention and I think that's
[6:26:24] tension has helped us make some huge
[6:26:27] strides in certain areas and has
[6:26:29] created an opportunity for learning
[6:26:31] on both ends, but I think the key
[6:26:33] issue I have is the leadership of the
[6:26:37] past work collaborative and I want to
[6:26:39] be clear to distinguish from the
[6:26:42] commission as a whole because I think
[6:26:46] that's really important.
[6:26:47] our community folks volunteer their
[6:26:50] time and energy to learn to become
[6:26:53] subject matter experts in areas that
[6:26:55] most of them did not go to school for,
[6:26:57] most of them did not have those
[6:26:59] experiences so I really believe that
[6:27:01] that work is genuinely important to
[6:27:03] improve the system but also hold the
[6:27:05] system accountable.
[6:27:07] I think where the concern lies is that
[6:27:10] the current leadership is not
[6:27:12] presenting opportunities I think for
[6:27:13] the most part for there to be earnest
[6:27:19] collaboration, the amount of
[6:27:20] misinformation over the last six
[6:27:23] month, 8 months, a year has been
[6:27:26] problematic and troubling, I think we
[6:27:27] heard interesting comments today about
[6:27:30] resolving concerns and things that are
[6:27:32] really important to the
[6:27:33] commission, to the chair who spoke for
[6:27:36] the commission, and I noticed this
[6:27:39] commentary about confidentiality and
[6:27:42] them not being an attorney or it she
[6:27:44] not being an attorney, that struck me
[6:27:46] as odd.
[6:27:48] the picture you see in front of you is
[6:27:51] an inappropriate unauthorized photo
[6:27:52] taken from inside my facility.
[6:27:54] when you guys received your
[6:27:57] presentation in december, it was full
[6:27:59] of photos that were taken inside of my
[6:28:01] facility that were not authorized.
[6:28:03] the reason why I bring that up is I
[6:28:06] think it's microcosm of what we've
[6:28:07] been experiencing.
[6:28:09] this kind of blatant disregard for
[6:28:12] true collaboration and partnership.
[6:28:15] it's more, I know best, I want to do
[6:28:17] what I want to do, it's created a
[6:28:19] negative environment in our facility,
[6:28:21] it has created a relationship where I
[6:28:23] think we don't have faith that the
[6:28:29] things that I think you are going to
[6:28:30] direct as we move forward can really
[6:28:33] be achieved because I think sometimes
[6:28:36] unspoken intentions of folks that are
[6:28:37] in the positions of leadership.
[6:28:41] this picture was on social media, this
[6:28:43] picture has been on their website for
[6:28:48] their business, this picture has been
[6:28:51] utilized to try to solicit funds on
[6:28:53] behalf of different things and for me,
[6:28:56] if a person will disregard the
[6:28:59] confidentiality of our children
[6:29:01] because when you look at this photo,
[6:29:04] our senses are so small that I have
[6:29:07] five wonderful, beautiful children and I
[6:29:09] can tell you how they walk, their
[6:29:14] images, their profiles, if I'm a
[6:29:18] parent sitting at home and I see a
[6:29:20] picture of my child, I will feel a
[6:29:22] certain way about that.
[6:29:23] as we move forward with this
[6:29:26] relationship, we can do so in a
[6:29:28] way where true intentions will lead
[6:29:31] the conversations.
[6:29:32] if the goal is to say that no youth
[6:29:34] should be in dust u custody regardless
[6:29:36] of what they've done or the people
[6:29:39] they victimized or the state of the
[6:29:42] vicks afterwards, then let's just say
[6:29:45] that so we can work in this place of
[6:29:47] honesty.
[6:29:48] the goal is to provide opportunities
[6:29:49] for young people and provide
[6:29:52] rehabilitation, let's do that and put
[6:29:56] aside personal focus.
[6:29:58] the young people need adults who are
[6:30:01] going to meet and work -- and I think
[6:30:04] one of the juvenile judges said it
[6:30:07] best, the adults need to get over
[6:30:09] themselves and figure out a way to
[6:30:10] work and the probation department is
[6:30:12] here to work, we're here to implement
[6:30:15] the things you need and we're here to
[6:30:18] listen to concerns but my hope is that
[6:30:21] something like this is not indicative
[6:30:23] of the future.
[6:30:26] thank you for the opportunity and
[6:30:28] certainly after public comment, if you
[6:30:29] have any other questions, I would be
[6:30:31] happy to answer.
[6:30:32] >> thank you.
[6:30:35] any comments or questions from the
[6:30:38] board?
[6:30:39] supervisor speier?
[6:30:40] >> thank you.
[6:30:42] let me just say to everyone how
[6:30:45] valuable your input has been today and
[6:30:49] how important this study session has
[6:30:53] been.
[6:30:54] I was stunned by the civil grand jury
[6:30:57] report that showed there was a 40%
[6:31:02] increase in a cost per youth from
[6:31:05] 23-24 of 423 thousand dollars per
[6:31:10] youth to 586 thousand dollars per
[6:31:15] youth in our youth service center.
[6:31:19] I'm also very concerned about the
[6:31:22] service cliff and the fact that like
[6:31:25] with foster children, they age out at
[6:31:27] 18 and we realize they weren't ready
[6:31:30] to be out at 18 and I think we need to
[6:31:34] look at taking some part of the rest
[6:31:36] of that facility and create a program
[6:31:42] where these young people can
[6:31:45] transition to a different setting but
[6:31:47] have some of the resources we saw from
[6:31:52] a number of the partners like fly and
[6:31:55] live in peace.
[6:31:56] I'm also concerned about the youth
[6:31:59] attacks on staff that have gone up 40%
[6:32:04] which speaks to a violence within the
[6:32:09] center there that is concerning and,
[6:32:12] chief, maybe we should have another
[6:32:14] conversation about that at a different
[6:32:17] time.
[6:32:18] I'm delighted to see that the prea
[6:32:21] number will be -- 800 number will be
[6:32:24] available soon, I think that's very
[6:32:26] important.
[6:32:27] I think we've got to find a way to
[6:32:31] procure some of the items these young
[6:32:36] people need to be able to jog for
[6:32:39] instance around that beautiful track
[6:32:41] and right now I think the
[6:32:44] process is too long for that.
[6:32:47] so, equipment for them to exercise
[6:32:52] with, athletic ware, they made that
[6:32:54] very clear and those are things that
[6:32:56] could make a huge difference for them.
[6:32:57] if we can come up with some different
[6:33:00] kind of procurement for some of those
[6:33:02] items, I think that would be very
[6:33:04] helpful in terms of their development.
[6:33:08] and the talk about food was over the
[6:33:11] top.
[6:33:12] I think the food is better than was
[6:33:16] represented.
[6:33:17] it's not great, but they even said
[6:33:20] that it's improved substantially.
[6:33:21] the extent to which we can create
[6:33:25] culinary job training for some of
[6:33:28] these young people, I think that's a
[6:33:31] great potential job for them in the
[6:33:32] future, and I
[6:33:35] don't know if we can turn that
[6:33:38] facility into something that can be
[6:33:39] made into a learning environment for
[6:33:42] them, but it appears that there is new
[6:33:44] money available and this report speaks
[6:33:46] to the fact that santa clara county
[6:33:49] and la county have developed these
[6:33:52] specialized programs for what they're
[6:33:55] clinging emerging adults and received
[6:34:00] financing or incentives for these
[6:34:01] counties.
[6:34:02] I hope we can look that the as well as
[6:34:03] we move forward, but madam president,
[6:34:07] thank you for convening this.
[6:34:08] I think it was really important to do
[6:34:11] and I look forward to working closely
[6:34:14] with those who work on behalf of our
[6:34:17] young people who need us and we need
[6:34:21] to be able to provide for them in
[6:34:23] hopes of a better future.
[6:34:25] >> thank you, supervisor mueller?
[6:34:28] >> thank you, colleagues.
[6:34:29] thank you to everyone who presented
[6:34:35] again, what I would like to suggest
[6:34:37] our board consider doing is to offer
[6:34:40] resources to sponsor an informal best
[6:34:43] practices assessment for the jjdpc's
[6:34:46] interaction with the county youth
[6:34:48] services center.
[6:34:49] I would like to offer the board that
[6:34:51] we should consider fund finding a
[6:34:54] subject matter expert to see the
[6:34:58] current practices and goals against
[6:35:01] statewide best practices and
[6:35:02] regional best practices so we can make
[6:35:05] recommendations and provide the
[6:35:07] support needed and that would take in
[6:35:11] dialogue from everyone.
[6:35:12] I think having that assessment is
[6:35:14] going to help us empower the jjdpc,
[6:35:19] the acronym, and our county
[6:35:20] departments and I would love to be
[6:35:21] able to get that report back and
[6:35:23] understand what that facilitator is
[6:35:26] telling us.
[6:35:28] >> any other comments?
[6:35:29] supervisor canepa?
[6:35:30] supervisor gauthier?
[6:35:34] >> no, I want to say again, thank you for
[6:35:36] all those who stayed and walked uss
[6:35:38] through this study session, it was
[6:35:41] very important.
[6:35:42] at the end of the day, I would like to
[6:35:44] figure out how photos are taken in the
[6:35:47] facility and I hope we don't have
[6:35:49] unauthorized photos that are taken in
[6:35:50] the facility.
[6:35:51] I hope that doesn't happen in the
[6:35:53] future and we can come to a better
[6:35:55] agreement and work better together to
[6:35:58] help our youth.
[6:35:59] at the end of the day, it is about the
[6:36:01] youth and getting them on track so
[6:36:02] they can be successful when they leave
[6:36:05] there and reenter and come back to
[6:36:09] our neighborhoods.
[6:36:10] >> thank you, I want to recognize,
[6:36:12] thank you, chief keene, for your
[6:36:13] comments.
[6:36:14] I think you summarized it pretty well.
[6:36:17] one of the things I would like to see
[6:36:19] and maybe through the county
[6:36:21] executive, we've had a pretty
[6:36:23] productive meeting with various
[6:36:24] stakeholders.
[6:36:25] I think we had representative from the
[6:36:28] court, we've had the jjdpc, might I
[6:36:32] suggest is looking at the feasibility
[6:36:34] of maybe having an annual meeting or
[6:36:38] quarterly meeting to bring people
[6:36:40] together with different perspectives
[6:36:42] so there could be future
[6:36:46] collaboration, and so I think as we
[6:36:47] move forward, we have a lot of smart
[6:36:50] people.
[6:36:51] obviously different skill sets, some
[6:36:53] similar, if we could form an ad hoc,
[6:37:00] whatever it is, maybe it's something
[6:37:03] you do, chief keene, where we're
[6:37:06] exchanging activities and everyone
[6:37:07] in the circle is aware of what
[6:37:09] everyone is doing, I think I want to
[6:37:12] thank supervisor speier, supervisor
[6:37:14] corzo, for bringing this forward.
[6:37:15] I do think it's a good first step.
[6:37:18] I do think there's
[6:37:22] opportunities for deeper collaboration.
[6:37:23] >> thank you, yeah.
[6:37:26] so, I want to share with the board
[6:37:30] that, yeah, I've been working
[6:37:31] internally with the jjdpc and with
[6:37:36] county leadership, the survey has been
[6:37:37] a part of that, wanting to the hear
[6:37:42] from every single commissioner on the
[6:37:44] jjdpc about areas they want more
[6:37:46] training in, more support and they want
[6:37:49] to explore areas, they want more data
[6:37:55] and information and also hearing from
[6:37:57] partners what about would work better
[6:37:59] for them and kind of relooking at how
[6:38:04] we can reset.
[6:38:06] I will say having worked with many
[6:38:09] commissions, the jjdpc does things in
[6:38:11] a way that's different from any
[6:38:13] other commission, so kind of reworking
[6:38:15] that to have it be more on par and
[6:38:19] just kind of make it a less tense
[6:38:25] space, I think we can get there.
[6:38:26] I want to get there.
[6:38:27] I think it's totally possible.
[6:38:32] I hope this study session, you know,
[6:38:35] as we opened with the intentions and
[6:38:41] the purpose, I hope this helped
[6:38:43] diffuse some of the tension, we've
[6:38:46] gotten it out there, there's been a
[6:38:47] lot of information shared.
[6:38:49] this must be our longest study session
[6:38:51] of the year and it does deserve that,
[6:38:55] our young people matter and they're
[6:38:58] important and it's not just about the
[6:39:01] youth in the ysc, it's also about the
[6:39:04] many youth in our community receiving
[6:39:08] diversion support and mentorship and
[6:39:14] preventative services and yeah, we all
[6:39:15] care about them and if there are
[6:39:18] improvements to be
[6:39:22] made, we should all be working
[6:39:23] together to make them.
[6:39:24] and I think, yeah, we've all learned a
[6:39:28] lot.
[6:39:29] so, thank you.
[6:39:30] did you want to share something,
[6:39:31] supervisor mueller?
[6:39:32] >> yeah, that's fine.
[6:39:33] >> it sounds like the county's already
[6:39:36] embarking on trying to facilitate it,
[6:39:38] so I will go ahead and withdraw that
[6:39:40] at this time but should the -- so,
[6:39:48] president or corzo, you should know as
[6:39:50] liaison, if you want to come forward
[6:39:51] and ask us for a subject matter
[6:39:54] facilitator to provide us with best
[6:39:56] practices has we can provide as
[6:39:59] recommendations, I would be supportive
[6:40:01] of that but I can go and withdraw that
[6:40:03] in the meeting at this time.
[6:40:04] >> thank you, I will say if there is
[6:40:06] like a neutral community partner that
[6:40:09] is interested in kind of being a
[6:40:11] mediator, I'm open to that, I don't
[6:40:15] want to pay like a facilitator like a
[6:40:18] ton of money when we can pay a
[6:40:21] community partner.
[6:40:22] >> so to be clear, what I'm looking
[6:40:25] for is I really think it would be
[6:40:27] important to go ahead and look at
[6:40:30] other jurisdictions in the operation
[6:40:33] of their jjdpc to see how it may
[6:40:36] differ from ours to try to go ahead
[6:40:38] and figure out what the tension point
[6:40:41] is originating from.
[6:40:43] and so a subject matter expert who
[6:40:45] went and looked at those other ones
[6:40:49] and looked at ours, we would have
[6:40:51] discrete recommendation.
[6:40:52] that being said, it sounds like you
[6:40:54] guys have stated a process but should
[6:40:59] you reach a point that you want to come back
[6:41:00] and ask us for that and people wanted
[6:41:01] to see that, I would be open to it.
[6:41:03] >> absolutely, thank you, I think we
[6:41:05] can expand that scope and potentially
[6:41:08] bring that back to the board.
[6:41:13] it's almost 5:00, y'all, I'm running
[6:41:15] out of steam here.
[6:41:16] with that, let's move -- supervisor
[6:41:18] canepa?
[6:41:19] >> madam chair, I'm going to
[6:41:20] ask you and I hate to do this, I don't
[6:41:22] think I've done it once on the board,
[6:41:25] if we could take my measure k item.
[6:41:27] >> yes, but after public comment.
[6:41:30] >> public comment, please.
[6:41:31] >> we have 8 speaker cards from
[6:41:33] chambers for item number 6, we'll
[6:41:35] start with kathy and then [inaudible]
[6:41:39] and barbara taylor.
[6:41:42] can we first have kathy.
[6:41:50] >> my name is kathy barrett, I
[6:41:56] live in san carlos, I'm a parent and a
[6:41:57] grandparent and I believe every child
[6:41:58] deserves to be treated with dignity.
[6:42:01] last year, I participated in a
[6:42:04] december drive for hygiene products
[6:42:06] for the kids living in the youth
[6:42:08] services center.
[6:42:10] the last time I spoke about conditions
[6:42:12] in the youth services center, I
[6:42:14] focused on the amnesty of having
[6:42:16] enough good food to eat.
[6:42:18] I believe those comments were heard.
[6:42:21] this time I would like to talk about
[6:42:24] some relatively simple steps to treat
[6:42:26] these kids with dignity.
[6:42:29] since we went to rehabilitate every
[6:42:32] young resident of youth services center
[6:42:34] and treat them as if they matter
[6:42:36] which they do, steps like replacing
[6:42:39] worn out carpet and installing
[6:42:41] personal storage units would be a
[6:42:42] goaded start.
[6:42:43] they need a place to store their
[6:42:46] clothes, hygiene pugs -- products and
[6:42:54] school supplies.
[6:42:55] I was glad to hear you talk about the
[6:42:56] procurement process because I hope
[6:42:57] that the board and the county
[6:42:58] executive can help probation secure
[6:42:59] items like these which would help make
[6:43:01] this space more livable.
[6:43:02] thank you.
[6:43:03] >> thank you, it looks like beth had
[6:43:05] to leave, next we'll do barbara and then
[6:43:10] daria.
[6:43:11] is barbara taylor here?
[6:43:14] okay.
[6:43:18] daria?
[6:43:24] >> my name is daria, a resident of
[6:43:27] east palo alto, the director of youth
[6:43:30] justice california policy and capacity
[6:43:31] building at the national center for
[6:43:33] youth law.
[6:43:34] thank you for dedicating this time to
[6:43:36] learn and uplift the needs of youth
[6:43:39] who are touched by the juvenile
[6:43:41] justice system in san mateo county.
[6:43:43] it is well documented through research
[6:43:45] that any amount of system contact is
[6:43:47] harmful to youth and the further a
[6:43:49] young person goes into the system from
[6:43:51] arrests all the way to one day in
[6:43:53] detention not only can have lasting,
[6:43:57] traumatic impact, it can drive
[6:43:59] recidivism and undermines public
[6:44:00] safety.
[6:44:01] I would like to note today that we
[6:44:03] heard from some amazing community
[6:44:05] partners as well as leadership from
[6:44:08] probation and other system partners
[6:44:10] who are all incredibly dedicated and
[6:44:14] really it's showing that want the best
[6:44:19] for our young people of our community.
[6:44:20] notably what was absent was hearing
[6:44:21] from young people.
[6:44:22] and so I really encourage the board at
[6:44:25] whatever point be possible to hear
[6:44:27] darkly from young people.
[6:44:28] I know there were visits to juvenile
[6:44:33] hall but hearing from young people in
[6:44:34] the community of what their needs are
[6:44:36] and what they see for their future.
[6:44:38] the other thing to lift up is also
[6:44:40] kids who enter the system often are
[6:44:43] understood and talked about as this
[6:44:46] siloed entity as these kids or those
[6:44:49] kids and these are our kids, it's the
[6:44:51] same group of kids and there are kids
[6:44:55] impacted by housing issues, impacted
[6:44:57] by issues of mental health, issues
[6:44:59] with our education system, so neigh is
[6:45:02] touching those issues really should be
[6:45:04] understood as intersecting with how
[6:45:06] young people are entering up in our
[6:45:07] system.
[6:45:08] I would also like to offer that the
[6:45:10] national center for youth law is here
[6:45:11] to support the county and
[6:45:14] strengthening and uplifting good work
[6:45:15] that is being done here supporting
[6:45:18] implementation of new justice law and
[6:45:20] is providing technical assistance.
[6:45:24] thank you so much and I look forward
[6:45:26] to working with all of you.
[6:45:29] >> next we'll have nancy goodman and
[6:45:31] then we'll have rebecca keeler.
[6:45:32] >> after.
[6:45:40] >> I'm nancy goodman from redwood city.
[6:45:43] thank you for sponsoring had and thank
[6:45:46] you for all your work and the good
[6:45:49] outcome of this was hearing from a lot
[6:45:51] of different stakeholders.
[6:45:52] I wanted to ask the board, I think
[6:45:56] it's an opportunity for you to help
[6:45:57] with something supervisor speier
[6:45:58] referred to, we have a lot of unused
[6:45:59] space we're spending money on, camp
[6:46:04] [inaudible] has 30 beds and set up
[6:46:06] like a warm, cozy group home with
[6:46:08] a nice kitchen and it could be
[6:46:11] repurposed fairly quickly for
[6:46:12] something that would be used for
[6:46:14] substance abuse or supportive housing
[6:46:16] for transitional youth.
[6:46:19] the youth service center has about
[6:46:21] 35-40 kids but has 180 beds, we
[6:46:26] have the bond debt, the court is
[6:46:28] paying a section of it, theses a bond
[6:46:30] debt that could be repurposed without
[6:46:32] having to go to the voters, it's whatever
[6:46:34] they call the general purpose bond,
[6:46:37] the voters didn't say it has to be
[6:46:39] used for this purpose.
[6:46:40] the good thinkers here in the county
[6:46:42] could figure out how we can use some
[6:46:44] of that space, rebuild it and renovate
[6:46:46] it a little and separate it off, we
[6:46:49] need substance abuse and mental health
[6:46:50] treatment for these kids to keep them
[6:46:52] out of the system and we need
[6:46:54] supportive housing so thank you again
[6:46:55] so much and I agree with everyone who
[6:46:57] said let's just all work together on
[6:47:00] this.
[6:47:01] I'm just a member of the community
[6:47:02] that wants to help these kids.
[6:47:03] thank you.
[6:47:05] >> thank you.
[6:47:06] and then rebecca and after we'll have
[6:47:12] maria.
[6:47:15] >> thank you so much, board.
[6:47:20] I brought notes but I think I'm going
[6:47:23] to trash them.
[6:47:24] I'm going to go back to some of them.
[6:47:27] first of all, today, I hope is the
[6:47:30] beginning of conversation, what you
[6:47:33] said, supervisor canepa, I think
[6:47:35] instead of this kind of format, I'm
[6:47:37] hoping that we can speak individually
[6:47:39] where we can have conversation back
[6:47:41] and forth.
[6:47:42] I think that would be really helpful.
[6:47:48] I always say all of these kids in the
[6:47:50] hall will come home to our community
[6:47:51] all of this them, and how do we want
[6:47:53] that to look?
[6:47:54] and that's -- I'm a co-founder of in
[6:47:57] our care, san mateo county, and we
[6:48:00] founded simply because we saw that
[6:48:02] issues that kept coming up in the hall
[6:48:04] that we kept hearing about at the
[6:48:07] inspection reports, we kept hearing
[6:48:08] about year after year after year and
[6:48:10] we thought, well, if we can raise
[6:48:13] community awareness, if we can talk
[6:48:15] with you folks all, maybe we can help
[6:48:19] to make some of these things happen,
[6:48:21] that's where we came from.
[6:48:24] I want to say that when problems come
[6:48:27] up very often in the hall, we either
[6:48:30] go to the chief keene or to the
[6:48:32] probation department about them and
[6:48:33] it's always not their purview.
[6:48:36] sometimes very often we get pointed
[6:48:38] back to you folks so our ask today is
[6:48:42] the things that are within your
[6:48:44] purview, will you please work with us
[6:48:45] in the community, with probation, with
[6:48:49] jjdpc, with the community partners and
[6:48:52] try to address some of these things
[6:48:54] that keep getting brought up over and
[6:48:56] over again and also when we have one
[6:48:58] to two minute to speak, very often we
[6:49:01] don't get to say the thank you I want
[6:49:02] to say today, thank you tonight, it
[6:49:04] does seem like the middle of the night
[6:49:06] right now.
[6:49:07] we just bring up our concerns and so
[6:49:10] please don't take that as an offense,
[6:49:14] anybody, it's because it's the
[6:49:15] way we can get those concerns heard.
[6:49:16] thank you.
[6:49:18] >> thank you.
[6:49:19] and then next is maria.
[6:49:23] is she still here?
[6:49:24] no?
[6:49:25] okay.
[6:49:26] then melissa wilson.
[6:49:32] >> hi, good afternoon, thank you for
[6:49:35] taking the time for this.
[6:49:36] I would like to address data sharing.
[6:49:39] probation requires its community
[6:49:41] providers to collect outcome data and
[6:49:43] those programs report six month post
[6:49:46] program outcomes including new law
[6:49:48] violations, however there's very
[6:49:50] little publicly available data in
[6:49:54] probation's own performance and
[6:49:57] outcomes, the formal supervised
[6:49:59] probation, probation reports new
[6:50:01] violations while youth are under
[6:50:04] supervision but does not report
[6:50:07] comparable outcomes after probation
[6:50:09] ends.
[6:50:10] marin county has published any
[6:50:12] adjudications of two years of juvenile
[6:50:15] case closure for the general
[6:50:17] population after probation ended.
[6:50:19] why can't san mateo provide comparable
[6:50:22] post probation outcome data?
[6:50:23] as the chief noted today, the data
[6:50:25] they collect is provided to state
[6:50:29] funders and regulators, however these
[6:50:30] reports are in many different
[6:50:33] locations and require high level
[6:50:35] content knowledge to read.
[6:50:37] I ask the board to request that
[6:50:40] probation make meaningful outcome data
[6:50:42] available to the public.
[6:50:44] I also just want to thank the board
[6:50:46] for spending time today and listening
[6:50:49] to all the various very complicated
[6:50:52] issues that make up the juvenile
[6:50:55] justice system and I was touched
[6:50:57] noelia by you sharing your personal
[6:50:59] history with us.
[6:51:01] I thought that that really framed the
[6:51:04] issues that are present there the
[6:51:05] youth in our system.
[6:51:06] thank you.
[6:51:08] >> thank you.
[6:51:09] and we'll go to zoom now for item 6
[6:51:12] for public comment.
[6:51:13] raise your hand at this time, it's a
[6:51:14] final call.
[6:51:16] alright, we have five hands raised at
[6:51:17] this time.
[6:51:19] please unmute and begin.
[6:51:24] liz?
[6:51:25] >> thank you so much, council, for
[6:51:27] scheduling this study session.
[6:51:29] I think everyone here cares about our
[6:51:31] youth and we want to ensure that
[6:51:34] they're all ready to succeed when they
[6:51:35] get out.
[6:51:37] I want to emphasize that these
[6:51:40] children are innocent until they are
[6:51:43] proven guilty and about half the kids
[6:51:45] in custody at any given time of course
[6:51:48] it varies, they have not had their cases
[6:51:51] decided by a judge.
[6:51:53] I want to bring attention to several
[6:51:55] other things including the housing
[6:51:57] assignment risks where youth of all
[6:52:02] genders and disparate ages basically
[6:52:04] sometimes end up being housed together
[6:52:07] which raise serious safety concerns.
[6:52:13] furthermore, there is -- I wanted to
[6:52:15] make sure there's a way for the youth
[6:52:18] to make a complaint in compliance with
[6:52:23] the prea, outside of probation
[6:52:27] department, so that we can address
[6:52:32] concerns about prior staff members
[6:52:34] that were arrested.
[6:52:38] there of course have been enough said
[6:52:40] about the food service and I think
[6:52:42] improvement, we are very grateful
[6:52:45] for.
[6:52:46] and finally as the prior speaker said,
[6:52:49] we want to be more transparent about
[6:52:53] the youth's involvement in the legal
[6:52:55] system as much as the ratio of the
[6:52:57] youth being held before and after
[6:52:58] their cases have been adjudicated,
[6:53:01] whether or not they're being detained
[6:53:03] for a misdemeanor or felony
[6:53:07] and the length of their stay and
[6:53:10] strong reentry support which we are
[6:53:12] grateful for the work that's being
[6:53:14] done by many different organizations.
[6:53:17] I'm a voter and I'm paying attention
[6:53:19] and I'm a member of the public who
[6:53:21] deeply cares about all the children in
[6:53:23] our care.
[6:53:24] thank you.
[6:53:26] >> thank you.
[6:53:28] we have four more speakers.
[6:53:30] paul, please unmute and begin.
[6:53:34] >> good afternoon, everyone, sorry I
[6:53:36] could not be there in person, you've
[6:53:39] been to two doctors office, san mateo
[6:53:42] and sutter and that was the first
[6:53:44] sometime in a board of supervisor
[6:53:46] meeting.
[6:53:47] I want to say thank you to all of the
[6:53:51] supervisors for this opportunity to
[6:53:52] speak and for bringing this historic
[6:53:55] study session to fruition.
[6:53:58] I am just floored by the unity in this
[6:54:03] room and across the county that has
[6:54:05] presented itself today and I want to
[6:54:06] say thank you to all of you who I have
[6:54:10] worked with, big props.
[6:54:16] secondly, I would like to say every
[6:54:20] idea that was presented by the
[6:54:23] supervisors, I agree with 100%.
[6:54:25] if I have said or done something in
[6:54:28] the work that I do that has offended
[6:54:30] someone, I would like to reset.
[6:54:32] when we started this, supervisor
[6:54:36] canepa, chief keene, reimagine
[6:54:40] juvenile hall, about six years ago and
[6:54:41] look where we're at today.
[6:54:44] still pushing, shining the light for
[6:54:46] the same purpose which is community
[6:54:48] safety.
[6:54:49] I live in redwood city, I'm going to
[6:54:57] to be mere for the rest of my life,
[6:54:58] this is the second largest arrest
[6:54:59] population in the county.
[6:55:00] I want to make sure those kids are
[6:55:01] going to be friendly to me and my
[6:55:02] family when they get back just like you
[6:55:03] all and I want to continue to work
[6:55:06] with everybody and I want to say thank
[6:55:08] you for allowing me to be a part of
[6:55:10] this historic study session.
[6:55:16] reset, god bless.
[6:55:17] >> thank you, and we have alexis lewis
[6:55:21] and then edgar, alexis, please unmute
[6:55:24] and begin.
[6:55:25] >> good afternoon, president, and
[6:55:27] board of supervisors, thank you for
[6:55:29] scheduling this session.
[6:55:30] I live in san mateo and like all of
[6:55:32] you, I care about all of our children.
[6:55:35] today I just want to ask for greater
[6:55:41] transparency regarding youth
[6:55:42] involvement in our juvenile justice
[6:55:46] system.
[6:55:47] I want to thank the probation
[6:55:50] department for push publishing data on
[6:55:51] its website.
[6:55:52] the department states as a certified
[6:55:56] evidence based organization, it is
[6:55:57] committed to data driven policies,
[6:56:05] transparency and that data page will
[6:56:06] continue to be updated quarterly with
[6:56:09] additional information the future,
[6:56:10] that is a positive first step, the
[6:56:12] information used to be more accessible
[6:56:14] and meaningful to the general public.
[6:56:17] for someone who doesn't work in the
[6:56:19] field, terminology and acronyms
[6:56:26] subchaser djj, fpp and wrap around can
[6:56:28] be difficult to understand, the public
[6:56:31] should not need specialized knowledge
[6:56:33] to interpret children that are in our
[6:56:36] county's care.
[6:56:37] we also need more information why
[6:56:39] youth are being detained and what
[6:56:43] happened to them afterwards,
[6:56:46] transparency isn't about putting
[6:56:47] numbers on a web page, it is about
[6:56:50] presenting information in a way the
[6:56:51] public can understand and use it to
[6:56:53] keep our systems accountable.
[6:56:56] our youth, their families and the
[6:56:57] people of san mateo county deserve
[6:56:59] that level of transparency.
[6:57:00] thank you.
[6:57:02] >> thank you.
[6:57:03] and next we have edgar, please unmute
[6:57:05] and begin.
[6:57:12] >> my name is edgar, I'm a policy
[6:57:14] associate with the center for youth
[6:57:17] law.
[6:57:18] I want to start off by thanking supervisor
[6:57:19] corzo and everyone else who made this
[6:57:21] study session happen, it's been a long
[6:57:24] day for y'all, I could only imagine
[6:57:25] and all the information, testimonials,
[6:57:29] thou, ideas, questions that were
[6:57:30] shared and offered today are super
[6:57:31] frontier getting this right.
[6:57:34] the california youth authority was in
[6:57:38] place for almost 100 years or a little
[6:57:41] bit over 100 years and it took a while
[6:57:43] for it to get to the place it was,
[6:57:47] these type of conversations are really
[6:57:50] important.
[6:57:51] I want to give a special shout out to
[6:57:57] fly, the folks navigating the system,
[6:58:00] its's frontier have those credible
[6:58:03] messengers, those opportunities for
[6:58:04] education and employment.
[6:58:06] it's clear a lot of the community
[6:58:09] system stakeholders want -- we want to
[6:58:11] get the system right but I think for
[6:58:13] us, for this body, it's important to
[6:58:14] just look outside of the jjdpc,
[6:58:18] there's opportunities in different
[6:58:19] spaces such as the sb823 subcommittee
[6:58:22] that focuses on the justice
[6:58:25] realignment block grant that are
[6:58:27] dollar specific for people who are
[6:58:28] going to be there for long periods of
[6:58:30] time, there's the comprehensive
[6:58:32] multiagency juvenile justice
[6:58:34] plan put together by the jcc, it's
[6:58:37] either a five year, ten year depending
[6:58:39] on the county, those are to engage
[6:58:41] manfully and reach community members and
[6:58:43] bring young people to the table to
[6:58:45] share their experiences, parents to
[6:58:47] the table to share their experience
[6:58:49] and find solutions that not just look
[6:58:51] for the moment but to the future,
[6:58:54] right.
[6:58:55] I think that's the most important
[6:58:56] thing we do,
[6:58:59] things are changing, the ability to
[6:59:01] apply the resources from the county in
[6:59:04] meaningful way, specifically in
[6:59:06] housing as we know as one of the
[6:59:09] biggest crisis will be key and
[6:59:10] critical.
[6:59:11] thank you for the time.
[6:59:13] >> alright, thank you, next we have
[6:59:16] epa [inaudible], please unmute and
[6:59:20] begin.
[6:59:21] >> hi, sorry, my name is lourdes, east
[6:59:27] palo alto community member, I'm a
[6:59:30] participatory defense organizer with
[6:59:32] silicon valley debug and I want to say
[6:59:33] thank you for having this study
[6:59:34] session today.
[6:59:36] it was very informative and I'm glad
[6:59:41] that we can come together as a
[6:59:43] community and a county to move forward
[6:59:46] and work on behalf of the children,
[6:59:50] our youth here in our county.
[6:59:52] I have a nephew who has
[6:59:55] been affected by the criminal justice
[6:59:58] system in san mateo county, he is
[7:00:01] going through one of the programs in
[7:00:03] live in peace right now, so shout-out
[7:00:05] to them and the wonderful work they
[7:00:08] do.
[7:00:09] thanks, everyone.
[7:00:10] >> madam president, we did have one
[7:00:12] additional hand raised.
[7:00:13] >> let's take it, please.
[7:00:14] >> beverly, please unmute and begin.
[7:00:21] >> beverly, your hand's raised.
[7:00:22] >> thank you very much.
[7:00:24] I'm beverly gerard and I'm a member of
[7:00:27] the county board of education and I
[7:00:29] want to thank the board of supervisors
[7:00:32] for having this study session today.
[7:00:37] it has really been an eye opener and
[7:00:40] full of information that I think will
[7:00:42] be very, very useful to the county
[7:00:46] board and how we address our students.
[7:00:49] the current community schools are
[7:00:51] under the jurisdiction of the county
[7:00:54] board of education and so we create
[7:00:57] the policies, the curriculum, we
[7:01:00] approve and we also approve the
[7:01:03] budget.
[7:01:04] and I think it was invaluable to see
[7:01:07] what is happening before our students
[7:01:11] come to us as well as some of the
[7:01:16] opportunities that are available once
[7:01:17] they leave us so, thank you again for
[7:01:20] all this valuable information.
[7:01:22] it's much appreciated.
[7:01:23] thank you.
[7:01:24] >> alright, thank you.
[7:01:25] that
[7:01:27] concludes public comment.
[7:01:28] >> thank you so much, because this was
[7:01:30] a study session, we do not have to
[7:01:34] take an action.
[7:01:36] we are now moving on to -- go ahead
[7:01:40] and make your motion.
[7:01:41] >> I have someone who's 91 years old
[7:01:44] who's been here since 9 a.m. And
[7:01:47] that's perla, many of you know, I
[7:01:48] think this is the first time I have
[7:01:50] done this, I ask the board to take my
[7:01:53] measure k item which is item 17 and
[7:01:55] that's a motion.
[7:01:56] >> so you would like to move item 17
[7:01:59] before item 12?
[7:02:00] >> I would like to hear it right now.
[7:02:01] >> yes.
[7:02:04] >> yes, before item 12.
[7:02:06] is there a second?
[7:02:07] >> which number because item 17 was
[7:02:10] heard with item 9.
[7:02:11] >> it wasn't 17.
[7:02:13] >> it's item 17, measure k.
[7:02:16] >> it's not item 17.
[7:02:17] >> you mean the discretionary, number
[7:02:20] 20?
[7:02:21] >> excuse me, number 20.
[7:02:23] >> you would like to move item number
[7:02:26] 20 before item number 12.
[7:02:27] >> and that's my motion.
[7:02:29] >> and there's a second.
[7:02:31] >> okay.
[7:02:32] >> okay.
[7:02:34] roll call vote.
[7:02:37] >> supervisor speier is absent.
[7:02:39] supervisor mueller is absent.
[7:02:41] supervisor gauthier?
[7:02:42] >> yes.
[7:02:43] >> supervisor canepa?
[7:02:44] >> yes.
[7:02:45] >> president corzo?
[7:02:46] >> yes.
[7:02:47] >> motion passes.
[7:02:48] >> thank you for the correction, we
[7:02:49] have about 20 speakers, but I don't
[7:02:53] think I'm going to ask --
[7:02:55] >> you better not.
[7:02:58] >> I'm going to ask all the speakers
[7:03:02] virtually and we have county staff here,
[7:03:04] I think we're going to bypass them and
[7:03:07] what I would like to do is I would
[7:03:11] like to move the item, so I would like
[7:03:12] to move the adoption of the
[7:03:13] resolution of one-time grant of
[7:03:15] district discretionary measure k funds
[7:03:17] not to exceed 75 thousand dollars to
[7:03:18] the city of daly city.
[7:03:19] >> second.
[7:03:22] >> public comment?
[7:03:24] >> public comment, please.
[7:03:25] >> alright, I have five speaker cards
[7:03:29] from chambers, brett turner and then
[7:03:35] liano ramos.
[7:03:36] >> I think we're fine, yeah.
[7:03:40] >> hello, supervisors, thank you for
[7:03:42] all you do over this long day.
[7:03:44] this is an easy one for me to speak
[7:03:47] to, it's not my normal intent subject
[7:03:50] matter I bring before you.
[7:03:51] today we're celebrating daly city in
[7:03:53] saying I go to a lot of shows, a lot
[7:03:56] of musical sow shows, I have produced
[7:04:02] a lot of shows and have been
[7:04:03] involved with summer of love, I have
[7:04:05] witnessed a lot of shows around the
[7:04:06] bay area.
[7:04:08] this particular shows brings the
[7:04:09] community of daly city together in a
[7:04:12] fashion I haven't previously witnessed,
[7:04:14] the feel good nature if you haven't been
[7:04:16] to it is something to really witness.
[7:04:18] everybody comes together, the location
[7:04:20] works, the people all get together,
[7:04:25] the low riders are there, it's a very
[7:04:26] cool and very --
[7:04:27] >> thank you, mr. Turner.
[7:04:28] >> I wanted to mention, we appreciate
[7:04:31] any attention you give, thank you.
[7:04:32] >> thank you, again, there's a
[7:04:33] motion on the table.
[7:04:36] you know, speakers can choose to speak
[7:04:37] if they want to, if they don't want
[7:04:39] to, they don't have to, correct, madam
[7:04:41] clerk?
[7:04:42] yes.
[7:04:43] >> yes.
[7:04:44] >> yes.
[7:04:45] >> alright, do any of the remaining
[7:04:51] speaker cards like to talk?
[7:04:53] >> we'll go to virtual.
[7:04:54] >> alright, we do have two hands
[7:04:59] raised for virtual, april and then
[7:05:02] dan, three hands, final call for item
[7:05:04] number 20.
[7:05:06] okay, april vargas, please unmute and
[7:05:09] begin.
[7:05:10] >> hi, I'll be brief, my name's april
[7:05:13] vargas, I'm with a volunteer group
[7:05:16] called resistance task force, we had
[7:05:18] the great pleasure to have a booth at
[7:05:20] last year's top of the hill festival.
[7:05:23] I sent the board members an e-mail
[7:05:25] with detailers but we had so many
[7:05:28] people, we were doing non-partisan
[7:05:31] voter registration and voter
[7:05:32] information, we had so many people
[7:05:34] come up with questions.
[7:05:36] I didn't get my ballot, what should I
[7:05:39] do, where's a goaded place for me to
[7:05:40] hand in my ballot because I don't want
[7:05:43] to put it in the mailbox and a lot of
[7:05:46] other discussions about registering to
[7:05:48] vote, whether you're 18 years old, so
[7:05:51] not only is this as previously
[7:05:53] speakers have said a great way for the
[7:05:55] community to come together, it also is
[7:05:57] a really important way for people in
[7:05:59] the community to learn about civic
[7:06:03] engagement, get information about
[7:06:05] community services that are available
[7:06:07] and feel that other people in the
[7:06:09] county want to learn about daly city
[7:06:11] and be part of the greater community,
[7:06:13] so I urge you to pass this request for
[7:06:18] the 75 thousand dollars so this very
[7:06:22] excellent --
[7:06:23] >> thank you, april.
[7:06:24] >> celebration can come forward, thank
[7:06:26] you.
[7:06:27] >> thank you.
[7:06:28] >> alright.
[7:06:30] we do have dan, please unmute and
[7:06:34] begin.
[7:06:35] >> first of all, I would like to
[7:06:37] correct it, I'm using dan's laptop,
[7:06:40] ipad and I can't change it, this is
[7:06:46] theresa, daly city, I just wanted to
[7:06:48] just kind of reiterate what people
[7:06:51] have said, respectfully asking the
[7:06:55] board to consider the top of the hill
[7:06:58] event.
[7:06:59] it is spectacular, we hope to have --
[7:07:01] we mad 20, 30 thousand people, I'm
[7:07:04] guessing maybe 50 thousand, so please
[7:07:06] consider it, we thank you for your
[7:07:07] consideration and hope to see you
[7:07:08] there.
[7:07:09] thank you.
[7:07:10] >> thank you, theresa.
[7:07:11] >> thank you.
[7:07:12] >> that was our last speaker I think.
[7:07:14] >> that is our last speaker.
[7:07:15] >> we have a motion and a second.
[7:07:19] I want to say something real quick.
[7:07:22] I'm going to say it.
[7:07:24] I believe this is the third year that
[7:07:26] you've had this measure k item and I
[7:07:30] believe the rules for measure k are
[7:07:32] that we're only supposed to do
[7:07:35] one-time for measure k funds and so I
[7:07:39] think that we -- in light of the
[7:07:43] situation that we're in with vlf
[7:07:47] funding, we need to be more careful
[7:07:49] about that and make sure we're
[7:07:52] communicating to our organizations
[7:07:53] and to our cities and to everyone that
[7:07:56] they are probably not going to be able
[7:07:58] to rely on this funding going
[7:07:59] forward and also the rules for measure
[7:08:02] k are tech flick that it's supposed to
[7:08:04] be one-time only and if by some
[7:08:06] miracle we are able to figure out our
[7:08:10] in lieu vlf situation, we either need
[7:08:13] to update our measure k rules to allow
[7:08:17] for it to not be one-time so I will be
[7:08:20] voting for it today but I do
[7:08:25] think that we should be following the
[7:08:28] rules of measure k, so roll call vote,
[7:08:32] please.
[7:08:33] >> supervisor speier is absent.
[7:08:34] supervisor mueller?
[7:08:35] >> yes.
[7:08:36] >> supervisor gauthier?
[7:08:37] >> yes.
[7:08:38] >> supervisor canepa
[7:08:39] >> yes.
[7:08:40] >> president corzo?
[7:08:41] >> yes.
[7:08:42] >> motion passes.
[7:08:44] >> okay, we are now moving --
[7:08:45] >> congrats, we are moving on to item
[7:08:52] number 12 can which I believe is a
[7:08:53] public hearing.
[7:08:55] I don't remember which one but you are
[7:08:59] going to tell us, thank you.
[7:09:04] >> thanks, good afternoon, president
[7:09:06] corzo and supervisors, executive
[7:09:08] staff, item number 12 is consideration
[7:09:10] of an amendment to our local coastal
[7:09:14] program, policy 1.23 which establishes
[7:09:16] an annual limit on the number of new
[7:09:19] residential units that may be
[7:09:20] permitted within the mid coast urban
[7:09:23] area to 40 unit per year with limited
[7:09:27] exceptions for affordable housing
[7:09:32] units.
[7:09:33] as the supervisors know, our local
[7:09:35] coastal program, our lcp is part of
[7:09:38] the county general plan that regulates
[7:09:40] development in the coastal zone and
[7:09:42] has specific provisions for the mid
[7:09:44] coast urban area which extends north
[7:09:46] from the city of half moon bay to and
[7:09:49] including the community of montera, with
[7:09:51] regard to the growth limit, the lcp had a
[7:09:54] a limit of 125 units per year, in
[7:09:57] 2006, the county proposed reducing
[7:09:59] that to 75 units, that was not
[7:10:02] acceptable to the coastal commission
[7:10:04] and we negotiated what is currently in
[7:10:07] place, a limit of 40 units per year.
[7:10:10] the reason those limits are in place
[7:10:12] is due to concerns regarding this
[7:10:15] efficiency of infrastructure,
[7:10:17] particularly roadways, wastewater
[7:10:19] systems and the 40% equates to a
[7:10:23] 1% growth rate which is similar to the
[7:10:25] city of half moon bay.
[7:10:28] this growth limit will remain in
[7:10:30] effect until such a time that a
[7:10:33] comprehensive transportation
[7:10:34] management plan is certified by the
[7:10:36] coastal commission, stormwater and
[7:10:39] sewage facilities are improved.
[7:10:41] >> is a hearing required on this?
[7:10:42] >> yes.
[7:10:43] >> it is, okay.
[7:10:46] >> I will go as quickly as I can, so,
[7:10:50] as I noted, there's exception to the
[7:10:53] 40 unit limit for affordable housing
[7:10:56] where we're allowed to exceed the 40
[7:10:58] unit limit only for affordable housing
[7:11:01] projects but that comes out of
[7:11:03] subsequent years so, over the three
[7:11:05] year period, we can't approve more
[7:11:08] than 120 units.
[7:11:11] the key issue here is we exceeded this
[7:11:13] limit in 2025 when we approved the
[7:11:17] cypress point affordable housing
[7:11:18] project.
[7:11:19] as a result, the county is not limited
[7:11:22] to issuing permits for 18 residential
[7:11:26] units until 2028.
[7:11:30] we've had to stop accepting building
[7:11:32] applications and we've been working
[7:11:34] hard to come up with a solution
[7:11:35] acceptable to the community.
[7:11:39] so, another consideration of course is
[7:11:41] our housing almost.
[7:11:43] there's a policy in housing element,
[7:11:45] we were required to have by the state
[7:11:48] to address the quota which is a
[7:11:53] concern statewide to the housing and
[7:11:55] community development department.
[7:11:59] per policy 11.6, should we reach the
[7:12:01] cap, we are required to within one
[7:12:04] calendar year pursue an amendment to
[7:12:06] that cap to increase it by 50%.
[7:12:12] okay, another key issue to keep in
[7:12:16] mind is that we have averaged about 30
[7:12:21] units per year over the past six
[7:12:23] years so, by being limited to 18 units
[7:12:25] this year, there will be a pent up
[7:12:28] demand for additional units that will
[7:12:31] cascade into future years.
[7:12:37] so, the options available to the
[7:12:39] [inaudible] fall into two buckets, the
[7:12:41] first is we can propose to increase a
[7:12:43] cap, that's going to require coastal
[7:12:46] commission approval and detailed
[7:12:48] consideration of all the bulleted
[7:12:52] items on this slide.
[7:12:57] another alternative is to maintain the
[7:12:59] cap and change the method of averaging.
[7:13:02] we are pursuing the latter, it's clear
[7:13:05] from our work with the community that
[7:13:06] many do not support an increase in the
[7:13:10] cap due to concerns about
[7:13:12] infrastructure, so our proposed
[7:13:13] solution keeps the cap but allows us
[7:13:16] to take advantage of unused credits
[7:13:18] from prior years.
[7:13:22] this approach was endorsed by the
[7:13:24] planning commission in may where the
[7:13:27] community council had some significant
[7:13:29] concerns about it in response to their
[7:13:31] concerns, we convened a community
[7:13:33] meeting where we presented
[7:13:36] alternatives and I will share that
[7:13:39] here.
[7:13:40] we had five alternatives, do nothing,
[7:13:44] change the method looking forward, two
[7:13:47] options of that, and then the option e
[7:13:50] is the one that staff is recommending,
[7:13:53] use the unused permits from past years
[7:13:56] dating back to 2013 when this cap
[7:14:02] was established and then was
[7:14:04] to only go back ten years.
[7:14:06] as you can see on the right, we had a
[7:14:10] large majority of participants support
[7:14:13] the looking back approach with the
[7:14:17] majority supporting looking back to
[7:14:18] 2013.
[7:14:19] this is the data from the night we
[7:14:21] convened the community meeting.
[7:14:23] we took a live poll but we kept it
[7:14:25] open for another few days and here
[7:14:28] are the results from july 4, no
[7:14:32] significant change, still a large
[7:14:34] majority in favor of what staff is
[7:14:36] proposing.
[7:14:37] so here's the text of the amendment
[7:14:39] that we are asking for your approval
[7:14:42] of and the main part is number 2.
[7:14:46] the portion in blue below is what
[7:14:49] we're proposing where the annual
[7:14:51] average number of permits issued from
[7:14:54] january 2013 which is the year that
[7:14:55] the growth limit was adopted through
[7:14:58] and including the year of building
[7:15:01] permit issue does not exceed 40 units
[7:15:04] per year.
[7:15:05] in other words we keep the cap but
[7:15:07] look backwards to the underutilized
[7:15:09] units that shown on the table to the
[7:15:11] right.
[7:15:12] you can see in 2025 where we exceeded
[7:15:15] the cap, what we're doing is we're
[7:15:17] averaging out the amount that we
[7:15:20] exceeded and that's shown in the light
[7:15:23] blue to the left, that's taken out of
[7:15:27] the orange portion which the orange
[7:15:31] represents units that were not
[7:15:33] permitted.
[7:15:34] we didn't have that many applications,
[7:15:38] so that's the recommendation.
[7:15:41] the coastal commission reviewed an
[7:15:44] approval of this amendment would be
[7:15:46] required, that serves as the
[7:15:48] functional equivalent of ceqa, we're
[7:15:50] asking you to adopt a rec resolution
[7:15:54] directing staffer to submit this local
[7:15:56] coastal amendment to the coastal
[7:15:57] commission.
[7:15:58] >> I move we open the public hearing.
[7:16:02] >> supervisor speier?
[7:16:03] >> aye.
[7:16:04] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:16:05] >> yes.
[7:16:06] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:16:07] >> supervisor canepa?
[7:16:08] >> yes.
[7:16:09] >> and president corzo?
[7:16:10] >> aye.
[7:16:11] >> motion passes to open the hearing.
[7:16:13] >> let's move on to public comment.
[7:16:15] >> alright, I do not have any public
[7:16:17] comment.
[7:16:18] we do have one hand raised online.
[7:16:20] anne, if you can please unmute.
[7:16:26] and begin.
[7:16:36] anne, can you unmute.
[7:16:39] >> sorry, am I on now?
[7:16:40] >> thank you, sorry, I was speaking to
[7:16:43] myself.
[7:16:44] >> the planning department and the
[7:16:45] board of supervisors were aware the
[7:16:48] approval of cypress point, moss beach
[7:16:50] would use all the 40 per year building
[7:16:54] permits per year.
[7:16:55] during the approval process,
[7:16:57] supervisor mueller requested that the
[7:16:59] county be funding additional
[7:17:05] infrastructure because the area in
[7:17:07] moss beach really has none, so I'm
[7:17:11] just concerned that this cypress point
[7:17:15] has really caused a lot of problems
[7:17:16] for the area and I think a lot of this
[7:17:19] was probably preventable had the
[7:17:21] approval not be given when it was.
[7:17:26] however, right now, if you look at
[7:17:28] safety, children walking to school and
[7:17:29] pedestrians, the only way that they
[7:17:32] can get to pharaoh mount view is to
[7:17:34] walk on a dirt a path next to a ravine
[7:17:39] and highway 1, that is not safe for
[7:17:40] anybody, there are almost no
[7:17:43] sidewalks in a lot of montera which is
[7:17:47] their route to school and for this
[7:17:50] reason and the fact there regaling --
[7:17:53] there's not even a single traffic
[7:17:56] light in town, I'm requesting again
[7:17:59] that you pleat support housing for
[7:18:02] seniors at this location where their
[7:18:04] needs can be met in a centralized way
[7:18:10] and it won't burden the surrounding
[7:18:12] areas or put at risk the lives of
[7:18:15] children or people when trying to get
[7:18:17] to school.
[7:18:19] two, if they try to cross highway 1 to
[7:18:21] get to the bus stop and there's no safe
[7:18:23] crossing and there's no funding with
[7:18:27] the vehicle license fee now being
[7:18:28] taken a away, there's going to be no
[7:18:31] funding that the county can even
[7:18:35] provide.
[7:18:36] so, I'm just requesting again that you
[7:18:38] consider designating this as senior
[7:18:39] housing so that these other issues can
[7:18:42] be addressed in the future.
[7:18:43] thank you for your consideration.
[7:18:45] >> thank you.
[7:18:46] that concludes public comment.
[7:18:48] >> thank you.
[7:18:50] any comments from my colleagues?
[7:18:52] >> move we close the public hearing.
[7:18:54] >> thank you.
[7:18:57] >> supervisor speier?
[7:18:58] >> aye.
[7:18:59] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:19:00] >> yes.
[7:19:01] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:19:02] supervisor canepa?
[7:19:04] >> president corzo?
[7:19:05] >> yes.
[7:19:06] >> motion passes to close the public
[7:19:08] hearing.
[7:19:09] >> is there a motion to adopt the item?
[7:19:12] >> moved.
[7:19:13] >> second.
[7:19:14] >> we did extensive outreach, it's
[7:19:19] conditionally supported under the
[7:19:21] [inaudible] council, I think we're
[7:19:24] in good shape.
[7:19:25] >> thank you.
[7:19:26] roll call vote, please.
[7:19:27] >> supervisor speier?
[7:19:28] >> aye.
[7:19:29] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:19:30] >> yes.
[7:19:31] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:19:32] supervisor canepa?
[7:19:33] >> aye.
[7:19:34] >> president corzo?
[7:19:35] >> yes.
[7:19:36] >> the motion passes.
[7:19:37] >> we are moving on to our second
[7:19:40] public hearing, take it away, mr. Monowitz?
[7:19:42] >> thank you, item 13 is a five lot
[7:19:45] subdivision on cordilleras way that
[7:19:48] requires approval of a general plan
[7:19:51] map amendment, major subdivision
[7:19:53] grading permit, tree removal permit
[7:19:56] and associated mitigated negative
[7:19:59] declaration.
[7:20:00] so, the main reason this item
[7:20:08] is before the board, the major
[7:20:12] subdivision grading permits, tree
[7:20:16] removal permit and mitigated negative
[7:20:19] declaration would normally go to
[7:20:21] the planning commission, they
[7:20:22] recommended your board approve it
[7:20:24] along with the general plan amendment.
[7:20:28] here's the location of the site in
[7:20:30] emerald lake hills on the south side
[7:20:33] of cordilleras road.
[7:20:34] this shows the general plan
[7:20:39] designations, the lighter yellow is
[7:20:40] the currently low density and the
[7:20:43] brighter yellow is currently low to
[7:20:46] medium density and I wanted to show
[7:20:47] this slide to show that the proposed
[7:20:50] general plan amendment request is not
[7:20:52] unusual for this neighborhood.
[7:20:55] here' an aerial view of this site.
[7:20:57] you can see it's bisected by the sfpuc
[7:21:03] right-of-way, there are two separate
[7:21:05] apn's but one legal parcel.
[7:21:07] here's the view of the site on
[7:21:10] cordilleras is the site in the
[7:21:13] picture on the left, on the right with
[7:21:18] the white fence, the picture on the
[7:21:21] right, it's on the left side.
[7:21:23] here again is a view of the site, on
[7:21:25] the right with the white fence, the
[7:21:28] existing driveway will be moved a
[7:21:31] little bit further east.
[7:21:34] here we have the site plan for the
[7:21:42] subdivision.
[7:21:43] it's five lots, they are all greater
[7:21:44] than 12 thousand square feet.
[7:21:46] the driveway, you can see in the
[7:21:47] middle of the lot serves all five
[7:21:50] lots, there will be two oak trees that
[7:21:52] will be removed and will need to be
[7:21:57] replaced.
[7:21:58] the blue -- hatch blue at the bottom
[7:22:00] of the screen is the detention basins
[7:22:03] for the stormwater and what's
[7:22:04] highlighted in yellow is a five lot
[7:22:07] strip that is required by public works
[7:22:09] to be dedicated towards cordilleras
[7:22:14] road improvements or a future sidewalk.
[7:22:17] the project complies with all relevant
[7:22:18] plans and regulations.
[7:22:22] and the department circulated a
[7:22:26] negative declaration, we received
[7:22:27] comments, some from the department of
[7:22:31] toxic substances control who wanted to
[7:22:33] make sure the soil was clean, we've
[7:22:35] attached a condition of approval that
[7:22:38] requires soil testing and then some
[7:22:40] comments from neighbors who were
[7:22:42] concerned about construction impacts,
[7:22:43] those concerns are addressed by the
[7:22:45] conditions of approval particularly
[7:22:47] condition 7 through 17.
[7:22:52] the planning commission considered
[7:22:53] this and recommended approval with a
[7:22:55] 5-0 vote.
[7:22:56] so we're recommending that the board
[7:22:58] approve the general plan amendment,
[7:23:02] subdivision grading permit and
[7:23:05] protected tree removal permit,
[7:23:06] adopting the required findings
[7:23:09] certifying the negative declaration
[7:23:12] and to amend the general plan use map.
[7:23:14] that concludes my presentation, I'm
[7:23:16] happy to answer questions.
[7:23:17] >> is there a motion to open the
[7:23:19] public hearing?
[7:23:20] >> so moved.
[7:23:21] >> thank you.
[7:23:22] roll call.
[7:23:23] >> supervisor speier?
[7:23:24] >> aye.
[7:23:25] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:23:26] >> yes.
[7:23:27] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:23:28] supervisor canepa?
[7:23:30] >> aye.
[7:23:32] >> president corzo?
[7:23:33] >> yes.
[7:23:36] >> motion passes to open the public
[7:23:39] comment.
[7:23:42] >> public comment, please.
[7:23:43] >> I do not have speaker cards in
[7:23:45] chambers.
[7:23:46] if you would like to raise your hand
[7:23:48] on zoom, please raise them now.
[7:23:50] there is no public comment.
[7:23:51] >> is there a motion to close the
[7:23:53] public hearing?
[7:23:54] >> so moved.
[7:23:55] >> roll call.
[7:23:57] >> supervisor speier?
[7:23:58] >> aye.
[7:23:59] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:24:00] >> yes.
[7:24:02] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:24:03] supervisor canepa?
[7:24:05] >> aye.
[7:24:06] >> president corzo?
[7:24:07] >> yes.
[7:24:09] >> it passes.
[7:24:10] >> is there a motion to approve?
[7:24:12] >> I'll move that we approve the
[7:24:18] resolution.
[7:24:19] >> wait, there are actually three items
[7:24:21] to approve for this one, correct?
[7:24:23] >> that's correct.
[7:24:24] >> if you could put up the slide.
[7:24:28] >> c, d and e is the proposed general
[7:24:31] plan amendment.
[7:24:32] the resolution adopting the mitigated
[7:24:36] neg dec for the various actions and
[7:24:37] the resolution to amend the county
[7:24:40] general plan land use maps.
[7:24:42] >> can they be approved in one motion.
[7:24:44] >> one motion for all three.
[7:24:45] >> yes.
[7:24:46] >> I move we move the general plan
[7:24:51] amendment, adopt the mitigated
[7:24:54] negative dec, adopt the motion to
[7:24:57] amend the general plan.
[7:24:59] >> it was the general plan amendment,
[7:25:01] grading permit and a perked tree
[7:25:04] removal permit, all of those things
[7:25:05] were part of item c.
[7:25:07] >> and second?
[7:25:08] >> second.
[7:25:09] >> roll call, please.
[7:25:11] >> supervisor speier?
[7:25:12] >> aye.
[7:25:13] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:25:14] >> yes.
[7:25:15] >> supervisor gauthier is
[7:25:16] absent.
[7:25:17] >> supervisor canepa?
[7:25:18] >> aye.
[7:25:19] >> president corzo?
[7:25:20] >> yes.
[7:25:21] >> motion to approve c, d and e.
[7:25:22] >> thank you.
[7:25:24] >> great.
[7:25:28] moving on to item number 14.
[7:25:29] welcome.
[7:25:40] >> good evening.
[7:25:42] >> I'm sorry too.
[7:25:43] >> we're all sorry, right.
[7:25:50] good evening, board members, --
[7:25:54] >> director tory newman, you're up.
[7:25:58] >> president corzo, I'm here today to
[7:26:04] present on an introduction of an
[7:26:06] ordinance to introduce a speed
[7:26:08] limit at a school zone in a portion of
[7:26:10] bay road, this is a stand alone item,
[7:26:13] this is similar to previous actions
[7:26:17] with redwood city and atherton.
[7:26:21] because the campus spans redwood city
[7:26:27] and unincorporated designations, this
[7:26:29] will have encroachment
[7:26:31] permits which will create a uniform
[7:26:34] zone across city and county boundaries.
[7:26:39] the area where this focuses on is bay
[7:26:41] road between sixth and haven, shown
[7:26:44] here in red, current speed limit
[7:26:49] within the zone is 30 miles per hour.
[7:26:55] and the proposed --
[7:26:57] >> sorry, I need to reenable our
[7:27:03] interpreter.
[7:27:04] >> okay.
[7:27:27] okay, go ahead.
[7:27:40] >> okay, there we go.
[7:27:43] the proposed speed limit in front of
[7:27:44] the school will remain 30 miles per
[7:27:47] hour, however during school zone,
[7:27:49] we'll be presenting signs for 15 miles
[7:27:51] per hour while children are present.
[7:27:57] this clicker has gotten a workout
[7:28:00] today.
[7:28:01] are there any questions?
[7:28:05] >> supervisor speier?
[7:28:08] >> tory, I think I reacher tout --
[7:28:13] reacher reached out to you, I want to
[7:28:17] be as fast as we can in reducing the
[7:28:20] speed limits.
[7:28:21] we took action two years ago I believe
[7:28:23] and we're now still in the process.
[7:28:24] so, we have it looks like by spring of
[7:28:31] 27, we're going to have all of the
[7:28:33] schools within the unincorporated
[7:28:36] areas, have them evaluated and the
[7:28:38] speeds reduced.
[7:28:39] >> that is correct, we started the
[7:28:41] school limit school zone study, we
[7:28:44] needed the engineering and traffic
[7:28:45] studies to complete the school speed
[7:28:48] limit study, one had to precede the
[7:28:50] other, that's what delayed the initial
[7:28:53] 9-12 month period for the initial
[7:28:56] school traffic study.
[7:28:57] >> you're going to back with us
[7:28:59] with this completed within the next
[7:29:01] six months?
[7:29:02] >> that is correct, yes.
[7:29:04] >> thank you.
[7:29:05] >> thank you, tory.
[7:29:06] public comment?
[7:29:11] >> yes, public comment on item number
[7:29:13] 14, I do not have speaker cards from
[7:29:15] chambers.
[7:29:16] if you would like to speak on this
[7:29:17] item, raise your hand at this time.
[7:29:20] alright, seeing none, we have no
[7:29:21] public comment.
[7:29:22] >> is there a motion?
[7:29:25] >> so moved.
[7:29:26] >> second?
[7:29:28] >> okay, supervisor canepa with a
[7:29:30] second.
[7:29:31] roll call.
[7:29:32] >> supervisor speier?
[7:29:33] >> aye.
[7:29:34] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:29:35] >> yes.
[7:29:36] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:29:37] supervisor canepa?
[7:29:38] >> aye.
[7:29:39] >> president corzo?
[7:29:40] >> yes.
[7:29:42] >> motion passes.
[7:29:43] >> thank you.
[7:29:44] >> okay, thank you.
[7:29:46] moving on to item number 15.
[7:29:53] michael wentworth, director of -- no,
[7:29:55] it's different, tsd.
[7:29:56] >> correct, thank you.
[7:29:58] good evening, president corzo,
[7:29:59] honorable members the board, mr.
[7:30:01] callagy, mr. Anybody lynne.
[7:30:02] due to the hour, I will be very brief.
[7:30:05] I'm endeavoring to be faster than
[7:30:07] everybody else, there are two salient
[7:30:10] points I want to draw for you, you've seen
[7:30:13] this before five other times, mr.
[7:30:15] callagy, and I thought we wanted to
[7:30:19] come before you and give you an
[7:30:21] overview of where we are.
[7:30:22] with the original five items, we
[7:30:25] approved 85 million dollars of
[7:30:27] licensing fund for the county.
[7:30:29] it helps us move, this item takes us
[7:30:35] to 93.5 million.
[7:30:36] this is a good thing you all get to
[7:30:38] see this now.
[7:30:39] so, the whole point of having this
[7:30:42] awareness for you is so you can
[7:30:45] exercise your oversight.
[7:30:46] the second point I wanted to dau you
[7:30:48] to is the -- there is recently a
[7:30:52] passage of sb122 which is the digital
[7:30:55] product tax, that adds a tax to --
[7:30:58] sales tax to all the software we will
[7:31:01] purchase which used to not be taxed so
[7:31:03] that will -- based on the current
[7:31:05] budget of the county, that will bring
[7:31:07] another 5 million dollars in taxes to
[7:31:08] to our departments.
[7:31:10] of course we'll get some of that back
[7:31:12] because that's how taxes work, but
[7:31:16] ultimately we will see about 2 million
[7:31:18] dollars that will pay more than we
[7:31:20] ever had to before for all of our
[7:31:23] software, that's something we need to
[7:31:25] be careful about.
[7:31:26] my teams are astute on negotiating for
[7:31:29] the best prices, that's what we do and
[7:31:31] we have the help and support of the
[7:31:34] county executive's office, the county
[7:31:36] procurement department as well as the
[7:31:38] controller's office and I really want
[7:31:40] to thank my team internally, they do a
[7:31:42] heck of a job.
[7:31:43] with that, I'm happy to take questions.
[7:31:45] >> thank you, any questions?
[7:31:47] >> motion to adopt the resolution.
[7:31:49] >> thank you, is there a second?
[7:31:50] >> second.
[7:31:51] >> okay, before we go to public
[7:31:52] comment, I have an important question
[7:31:54] for you, do you prefer director or
[7:31:57] chief information officer.
[7:31:59] >> I'm talking to tech colleagues, the
[7:32:01] ceo, that's how we all talk to each
[7:32:04] other, director from just here.
[7:32:07] >> okay, public comment, please.
[7:32:09] >> public comment on item 15, we have
[7:32:11] no speaker cards in chambers.
[7:32:12] if you would like to make a comment
[7:32:13] online, raise your hand at this time.
[7:32:17] >> seeing no hands raised, we have no
[7:32:18] public comment.
[7:32:19] >> thank you, is there a motion?
[7:32:21] did we take a motion?
[7:32:22] okay, roll call.
[7:32:23] >> supervisor speier?
[7:32:24] >> aye.
[7:32:25] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:32:26] >> yes.
[7:32:27] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:32:28] supervisor canepa?
[7:32:29] >> aye.
[7:32:30] >> president corzo?
[7:32:31] >> yes.
[7:32:32] >> motion passes.
[7:32:33] >> thank you.
[7:32:35] next is item 16, interim urgency
[7:32:39] ordinance.
[7:32:40] and I will invite supervisor mueller
[7:32:44] to introduce this first reading.
[7:32:47] >> it only requires one reading.
[7:32:50] >> one reading.
[7:32:53] >> and I think we've covered it in our
[7:32:55] last meeting, I'm just going to go
[7:32:58] ahead and introduce the item and say
[7:32:59] let's vote.
[7:33:00] I'll make a motion to move the
[7:33:03] ordinance.
[7:33:04] >> okay.
[7:33:10] public comment?
[7:33:12] >> alright, public comment on item
[7:33:15] number 16, I do not have speaker cards
[7:33:17] in chambers.
[7:33:18] going online for public comment, if
[7:33:19] you would like to make a comment at
[7:33:21] this time, please raise your hand.
[7:33:23] seeing no hands raised, no public
[7:33:25] comment.
[7:33:26] >> if I might, madam
[7:33:31] president, notwithstanding the hour, I
[7:33:32] want to say a couple of things, as
[7:33:33] noted, the this ordinance, the way the
[7:33:37] government code works, the findings
[7:33:39] that the board is making goes into
[7:33:42] effect immediately and it will impose
[7:33:44] a moratorium on the siting permitting
[7:33:51] developing, operating of detention
[7:33:54] facilities and correctional facility as
[7:33:56] defined in the urgency ordinance.
[7:33:58] the board will have to if the board
[7:34:00] seeks to extend this matter which will
[7:34:03] -- this ordinance which can only be in
[7:34:06] effect for 45 days without extending
[7:34:07] will have to come back for a noticed
[7:34:10] public hearing within that 45 day
[7:34:13] speeder, we'll be back to you within
[7:34:15] 45 days for that purpose.
[7:34:17] the ordinance itself, the urgency
[7:34:20] ordinance can be extended for a total
[7:34:21] of up to two years in increments which
[7:34:26] we can talk some more about at a
[7:34:27] later date.
[7:34:32] >> okay.
[7:34:33] thank you.
[7:34:35] roll call vote, please.
[7:34:37] >> supervisor speier?
[7:34:39] >> aye.
[7:34:40] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:34:41] >> yes.
[7:34:42] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:34:43] supervisor canepa?
[7:34:44] >> aye.
[7:34:45] >> president corzo?
[7:34:46] >> yes.
[7:34:47] >> motion passes.
[7:34:48] >> okay, thank you.
[7:34:49] >> I want to say thank you to county
[7:34:51] counsel's office for their quick work
[7:34:52] on that.
[7:34:53] >> thank you, john.
[7:34:54] moving on to item number 18, and that
[7:35:04] is a resolution with the san francisco
[7:35:07] public health foundation for the pride
[7:35:09] center.
[7:35:10] >> thank you, madam chair, members of
[7:35:12] the board, I know it's been a long
[7:35:14] day, I'll go quickly on this, really
[7:35:19] no fault of its own, the pride center
[7:35:21] of san mateo county finds itself in
[7:35:24] dire straits financially and may be
[7:35:27] going out of business the end of this
[7:35:29] month, lost their home when samaritan
[7:35:33] house went under --
[7:35:34] >> not samaritan house.
[7:35:38] >> I'm sorry, star vista.
[7:35:42] >> samaritan house is in great shape,
[7:35:45] when star vista went under and they lost
[7:35:48] their ability to bill because they
[7:35:51] didn't have a home for clinicians to
[7:35:53] charge people from which is required.
[7:35:54] they also had their funding from
[7:35:57] bhrs reduced from 800 thousand down to
[7:36:00] 100 thousand.
[7:36:02] so, with this grant of 350 thousand
[7:36:05] dollars, it's our hope that it will
[7:36:09] start to rebuild, they're going to get
[7:36:14] their 50 c-3 status, build a board,
[7:36:16] start billing as we try to get them
[7:36:17] into one of the locations on mahler
[7:36:22] and burbling fwaim so they have a home
[7:36:24] and then start the board fundraising
[7:36:27] to become self-sufficient, so this is
[7:36:28] -- what we see is a temporary measure
[7:36:32] to keep them alive and operational in
[7:36:37] the county while they rebuild.
[7:36:40] happy to answer any questions you may
[7:36:44] have.
[7:36:47] >> thank you.
[7:36:50] I don't think we have any questions.
[7:36:54] I'm really grateful to -- I'm sorry,
[7:36:59] I'm so tired, I'm just like -- to
[7:37:03] linda and tanya for working on behalf
[7:37:05] of the county executive's office, to,
[7:37:09] you know, help us develop a plan,
[7:37:12] gather all the information and to fran
[7:37:17] -- frankie and everyone at the pride
[7:37:21] center, yeah, I'm glad we can do this
[7:37:22] and I -- do we have a motion already?
[7:37:27] I'll motion to approve this item.
[7:37:28] is there a second?
[7:37:30] >> second.
[7:37:31] >> thank you.
[7:37:32] public comment?
[7:37:35] >> public comment on item number 18, I
[7:37:37] do not have speaker cards in chambers.
[7:37:39] we will be going online, this is going
[7:37:40] to be a final call.
[7:37:43] right now I have four hands raised,
[7:37:46] we'll start with tatum, please
[7:37:48] unmute and begin.
[7:37:52] >> sorry, my speech isn't too good,
[7:37:56] I'm a resident of san mateo county
[7:37:58] speaking in support of this item.
[7:38:03] I'm a resident and member of the
[7:38:05] community, I appreciate your efforts
[7:38:06] as well as the county executive as
[7:38:09] well as frankie and the commission to
[7:38:14] support the lgbtqia+ community here.
[7:38:18] it needs -- means as lot by their
[7:38:22] actions especially trying to find
[7:38:23] space and I want to point out that per
[7:38:25] the san mateo county health office and
[7:38:31] epidemiology evaluation and wellness,
[7:38:33] they had completed a survey in 2022 or
[7:38:37] 23, I know it is dated but there are
[7:38:41] needs by the community in some of
[7:38:46] these statistics that are pretty
[7:38:48] alarming, it is the community that had
[7:38:55] reported the highest mental or
[7:38:57] emotional problems, highest reported
[7:39:00] that they experienced symptoms of
[7:39:02] depression lasting two plus years and
[7:39:06] thoughts taking one's own life.
[7:39:07] if
[7:39:09] -- in the past year, and the youth had
[7:39:17] suicide ideation as compared to
[7:39:21] non-lgbtqia+ in our community.
[7:39:22] they also had the highest substance
[7:39:25] abuse compared to non-lgbtqi+, so
[7:39:31] obviously these statistics underlie
[7:39:32] the importance of this measure, I
[7:39:34] appreciate again you as a board coming
[7:39:37] together to support the team, they've
[7:39:39] done a lot of great work especially
[7:39:42] as the county executive mentioned, they
[7:39:43] haven't had space and I really
[7:39:46] appreciate the county making this a
[7:39:48] priority to give them a space, thank
[7:39:50] you for your verses and thank you for
[7:39:53] listening in this marathon meeting.
[7:39:56] >> thank you, and next we have vanessa
[7:39:59] and then frankie, vanessa, please
[7:40:02] unmute and begin.
[7:40:08] can you please unmute.
[7:40:09] >> can you all hear me?
[7:40:10] >> yes.
[7:40:12] >> good evening,
[7:40:21] I'm vanessa, thank you for supporting
[7:40:23] the pride center, it has always been
[7:40:26] something than just a physical space,
[7:40:28] it provides a space where lbgtq people
[7:40:33] can find community, resorts, support
[7:40:35] and a ascensive belonging.
[7:40:38] in the county's own health data show
[7:40:42] that is lgbtq residents are
[7:40:46] experiencing high rates of depression
[7:40:49] and suicidal ideation and that makes
[7:40:52] competent spaces in own community
[7:40:54] incredibly important.
[7:40:55] this funding will help
[7:41:00] provide them a sustainable location
[7:41:02] for the future, please support item 18
[7:41:04] and continue investing in the lgbtq
[7:41:07] community here in san mateo county,
[7:41:08] thank you.
[7:41:09] >> alright, thank you, then next we
[7:41:12] have frankie, please unmute and begin.
[7:41:19] >> hello, everyone, this is frankie,
[7:41:20] I'm the director with the san mateo
[7:41:25] county pride center and I wanted to
[7:41:26] thank the county of san mateo for your
[7:41:29] considering providing the funding
[7:41:30] for the pride center, so we can
[7:41:33] continue supporting thousands of
[7:41:36] lgbtq+ individuals every year with our
[7:41:38] clinical services, peer support
[7:41:41] groups, training, community building
[7:41:43] events and connecting people to
[7:41:45] essential resources.
[7:41:47] especially thanking you for continuing
[7:41:49] to power through your very, very long
[7:41:52] day.
[7:41:54] we have experience and influx of
[7:41:57] requests of housing and food support
[7:41:59] and there has been a significant
[7:42:01] increase in bully, hate crimes,
[7:42:06] isolation and suicidal ideation
[7:42:07] amongst our community.
[7:42:08] this funding will allow us to keep our
[7:42:10] doors open to continue supporting our
[7:42:14] community that are -- to continue
[7:42:19] supporting our community that
[7:42:20] desperately relies on our services.
[7:42:21] we greatly appreciate the county's
[7:42:22] support for not just center but the
[7:42:26] lgbtq+ community as a whole.
[7:42:28] thank you very much.
[7:42:30] your support and your continued
[7:42:32] support is very appreciated.
[7:42:35] >> thank you.
[7:42:36] and then lastly we have san mateo
[7:42:38] pride, please unmute and begin.
[7:42:43] >> yes, hello, all.
[7:42:45] good afternoon, my name's alex simon
[7:42:47] gold, the assistant director for the
[7:42:49] san mateo county pride center.
[7:42:51] I just would like to thank the board
[7:42:53] and the county for your significant
[7:42:55] support of our center and for the
[7:43:00] lgbtq plus community.
[7:43:01] this grant you're providing to the
[7:43:03] pride center is crucial to helping us
[7:43:05] stabilize and get back on our feet.
[7:43:07] they will also give us a chance to
[7:43:12] reprint our roots and secure our
[7:43:17] home.
[7:43:18] this will mep increase access to
[7:43:19] services for so many in our community.
[7:43:23] to many, the programs and support
[7:43:25] provided by the pride center are
[7:43:27] necessary and lifesaving.
[7:43:29] as other speakers have already shared,
[7:43:30] we know that lgbtq+ adults if san
[7:43:35] mateo county face higher economic and
[7:43:38] housing instability, worse access to
[7:43:39] care and higher rates anxiety,
[7:43:42] depression and suicide.
[7:43:43] the pride center exists to address
[7:43:45] these needs of the most vulnerable and
[7:43:51] marginalized among us.
[7:43:52] so, thank you for helping to ensure
[7:43:53] that our county remains a high,
[7:43:55] inclusive and affirming community for
[7:43:56] all.
[7:43:57] thank you.
[7:43:58] >> thank you.
[7:43:59] that concludes public comment.
[7:44:00] >> thank you.
[7:44:01] I would like to motion to approve this
[7:44:02] item.
[7:44:03] is there a second?
[7:44:04] >> second.
[7:44:05] >> thank you, roll call vote.
[7:44:06] >> supervisor speier?
[7:44:07] >> aye.
[7:44:08] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:44:09] >> yes.
[7:44:10] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:44:11] supervisor canepa?
[7:44:13] >> yes.
[7:44:14] >> president corzo?
[7:44:15] >> yes.
[7:44:16] >> motion passes.
[7:44:17] >> thank you, moving on to item
[7:44:18] number 19, it's a quarterly report on
[7:44:20] procurement.
[7:44:21] >> I make a motion.
[7:44:22] >> we made a motion to approve
[7:44:23] earlier.
[7:44:24] >> that was moved.
[7:44:25] >> we're on the last item, number 29.
[7:44:28] >> amazing.
[7:44:32] district attorney wagstaff is here to
[7:44:37] present item number 29.
[7:44:40] >> madam president, I moved there from
[7:44:43] consent to the regular agenda and I'm
[7:44:47] offering my apologies to the district
[7:44:49] attorney for having done that, but I
[7:44:53] think it's an important issue and I
[7:44:56] was concerned that the $6 fee doesn't
[7:45:00] cover it and you're underwriting 200
[7:45:02] to 300 thousand dollars a year, I
[7:45:04] think this issue is growing and I
[7:45:05] would like to see us increase the
[7:45:07] fee, so tell us what you're doing.
[7:45:10] >> I will, first of all, no apology
[7:45:12] called for this, it may have
[7:45:13] been one of the productive days
[7:45:15] sitting out in the audience, phone
[7:45:17] never rang, nobody came in and set up
[7:45:20] a meeting so I feel very productive,
[7:45:21] we should do this more often.
[7:45:25] but president corzo and members the
[7:45:28] board, mr. Callagy mr, nibbelin, thank
[7:45:33] you.
[7:45:34] what I really want to do today is tell
[7:45:36] you what we are doing with brevity, to
[7:45:38] that extent, I really do want to turn
[7:45:40] it over and introduce to you mary
[7:45:44] louise christians, she is a deputy
[7:45:47] district attorney with the district's
[7:45:49] attorney's office, she's an
[7:45:50] outstanding prosecutor who has taken
[7:45:52] this assignment on in the course of
[7:45:54] the last year plus.
[7:45:55] she is the one who prepared the report
[7:45:57] that you have before you and can
[7:45:59] address that point.
[7:46:00] I will say that she is the one who has
[7:46:02] been in discussions with our clerk
[7:46:06] assessor about whether or not there
[7:46:07] should be an increase for -- to meet
[7:46:11] their needs, on that line, at this
[7:46:13] point, may I turn it over with your
[7:46:16] permission to ms. Christianson.
[7:46:18] >> yes, welcome.
[7:46:20] >> thank you very much.
[7:46:23] good evening, everyone.
[7:46:25] my name is mary louise christianson,
[7:46:27] I'm a deputy district attorney with
[7:46:29] the da's office.
[7:46:31] I am currently working in the real
[7:46:34] estate fraud unit, I'm the sole
[7:46:36] prosecutor in that unit, that unit
[7:46:38] consists of myself and our
[7:46:43] investigator, john column.
[7:46:45] I also prosecute insurance fraud and
[7:46:49] contracting cases, contractors would
[7:46:50] contract without proper licensing.
[7:46:54] the real estate fraud unit has been
[7:46:56] busy this year, we currently have
[7:46:58] three cases in court.
[7:47:00] we just recently obtained a conviction
[7:47:02] for our case that we had which
[7:47:05] included five felony convictions, for
[7:47:08] someone who was filing or proportion
[7:47:12] to inherit a home from somebody who he
[7:47:14] did not know, he consequently filed
[7:47:18] false documents with the coroner's
[7:47:21] office and tried to sell this home in daly
[7:47:23] city two times to two different real
[7:47:25] estate companies, but ultimately he
[7:47:27] was not successful in those efforts
[7:47:30] but we were able to prosecute him and
[7:47:32] he is set for sentencing next month,
[7:47:38] and then also we've launched this year
[7:47:41] the real estate fraud notification
[7:47:42] program which is a program that we had
[7:47:46] been working on and that we came -- my
[7:47:49] colleague came in front of the board I
[7:47:51] think over a year ago now asking for
[7:47:53] an increase in that recording fee to
[7:47:57] $6 so we could implement that program.
[7:47:59] so, that program has now been
[7:48:02] implemented and whenever a deed is
[7:48:03] recorded in san mateo county, the
[7:48:07] homeowner is alerted of that recording
[7:48:09] with a letter, a notification, a
[7:48:12] courtesy letter they are sent to make
[7:48:15] them aware of that recording and on
[7:48:17] that letter, we do the tell them if
[7:48:19] you're aware of this recording, great,
[7:48:21] no further action needs to be done,
[7:48:23] but the you're not aware of this
[7:48:25] recording, please contact the da's
[7:48:27] office because there could be possible
[7:48:29] fraud happening.
[7:48:31] so, that program launched in april, we
[7:48:35] have consequently sent out I think
[7:48:38] almost I think 20 thousand letters so
[7:48:42] far and we've had -- we haven't had
[7:48:45] any cases so far but we've had a
[7:48:47] couple of investigations that have
[7:48:48] been started as a result of that.
[7:48:52] I'm happy to answer any other
[7:48:54] questions the board may have?
[7:48:56] >> any other questions?
[7:48:57] >> on the 20 thousand letters, you
[7:49:02] know, jeffrey who's an assessor in los
[7:49:04] angeles county, they do what's an
[7:49:06] e-mail notification because there's
[7:49:07] fraud that takes place.
[7:49:08] I don't know if there's enabling state
[7:49:12] legislation, but when you say letters,
[7:49:13] you're talking about e-mails, correct?
[7:49:16] >> they're physical letters that are
[7:49:17] mailed in the mail, the u.s. Postage.
[7:49:19] >> okay, great.
[7:49:20] we should probably -- I support this,
[7:49:23] we should probably talk online just
[7:49:25] because the issue with the letter
[7:49:28] sometimes is by the time they get it,
[7:49:32] right, there may be some issues
[7:49:34] and maybe leveraging e-mail or other
[7:49:38] technologies could get to them faster.
[7:49:40] >> supervisor speier?
[7:49:43] >> so, why don't we raise the fee so
[7:49:47] that we're not subsidizing this?
[7:49:49] it's a great service to the public.
[7:49:50] >> so, yes, I do also want to say that
[7:50:02] the jjdpc could not start their
[7:50:03] meeting until we finish this zoom and
[7:50:05] I want us to have a thoughtful
[7:50:08] conversation, so yes, please answer
[7:50:10] and --
[7:50:11] >> there's a couple of questions that
[7:50:14] you have opposed, supervisor, in
[7:50:16] terms, number one, in terms of raising
[7:50:18] the fee, we're talking, we've had two
[7:50:20] meetings with the county attorney's
[7:50:22] office and with mr. Azari of the clerk
[7:50:27] assessor's office and of course to
[7:50:29] continue those conversations next year
[7:50:30] about that very point.
[7:50:32] they are preparing to bring back to us
[7:50:35] a memo explaining what exactly are
[7:50:37] their costs, so then we can intel
[7:50:39] generally -- because our option
[7:50:41] available is we can request of the
[7:50:43] board to the increase to be one of 7,
[7:50:47] 8, 9 or 10.
[7:50:49] the fee that I have stated and the
[7:50:52] one I've always had, I don't want to
[7:50:54] ask for an increase except for what
[7:50:55] our costs are.
[7:50:56] >> I don't want to impose on the
[7:50:58] taxpayers money that we could use for
[7:51:00] other purposes in these difficult
[7:51:02] times, so it's a conversation that's
[7:51:05] ongoing.
[7:51:06] I suspect we will be coming back to
[7:51:07] you to ask for that, but we want to
[7:51:09] do it when we have data.
[7:51:12] everything's data driven and we will
[7:51:13] do so.
[7:51:14] >> I move adoption.
[7:51:15] >> thank you, public comment?
[7:51:17] >> alright, public comment on item 29,
[7:51:19] if you would like to make a public
[7:51:21] comment online, raise your hand at
[7:51:22] this time.
[7:51:23] we have no speaker cards from
[7:51:24] chambers.
[7:51:25] no public comment.
[7:51:26] >> thank you, roll call vote.
[7:51:27] >> supervisor speier?
[7:51:28] >> aye.
[7:51:29] >> supervisor mueller?
[7:51:30] >> yes.
[7:51:32] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.
[7:51:33] supervisor canepa?
[7:51:34] and president corzo?
[7:51:36] >> yes.
[7:51:37] >> motion passes.
[7:51:38] >> thank you, we are now adjourned at