[0:11] Good morning. I call this [0:12] session's scheduled County [0:12] commissions to [0:13] order JULY 7th [0:13] , [0:14] 2026, a little [0:14] after 8:30 in [0:15] the morning, please join me in [0:16] the Sutar flag [0:19] . I [0:19] pledge [0:21] allegiance to the [0:21] flag of the [0:21] United [0:22] States [0:23] of America and to [0:24] the republic [0:25] for which [0:25] it [0:26] stands, one [0:26] nation [0:27] under GOD [0:28] , [0:28] indivisible with liberty [0:29] and [0:30] justice [0:34] . We expect Commissioner [0:35] Burns in a few minutes [0:36] , so we [0:37] will get started. We [0:37] are [0:38] here [0:39] with the [0:41] um Public [0:41] Works [0:43] and [0:43] the what do you [0:43] call this [0:45] , the [0:45] tag [0:47] , the [0:47] Quimus [0:48] Island [0:48] Ferry [0:49] Replacement [0:49] Project [0:50] Technical [0:51] Advisory Group [0:53] . Um [0:54] go ahead [0:56] . [0:56] Good morning [0:57] , commissioners [0:57] Is [0:57] it on [0:59] ? Yeah. Oh, ok [1:01] Sorry [1:01] . [1:02] Marie Lambert, Assistant [1:03] Public [1:04] Works director. We're here [1:04] today for [1:05] a [1:06] presentation from [1:07] Sandy McKeon [1:08] , the chair of the [1:09] Temporary Technical [1:10] Advisory [1:10] Group [1:11] , formed [1:11] last fall [1:12] to [1:12] evaluate [1:13] the [1:13] gleamous [1:14] ferry [1:15] replacement options [1:16] . The 9 [1:16] members [1:17] 9 [1:17] member [1:19] group [1:19] meant [1:19] monthly from [1:20] NOVEMBER [1:21] 2025 [1:21] through [1:22] JUNE [1:22] 2026 [1:23] . Captain [1:24] Rachel Rowe [1:24] , myself [1:26] , [1:27] facilitator Hilary [1:27] Wilkin [1:28] Wilkinson and her [1:28] assistant [1:29] Claire [1:29] Morder [1:30] also [1:30] attended [1:31] . [1:31] The [1:31] tag [1:32] was tasked [1:33] with [1:34] providing recommendations for [1:35] replacing [1:35] the [1:36] current Guimus [1:36] Island [1:36] ferry [1:37] , a written report [1:37] will be [1:38] submitted to the [1:38] board [1:39] by the [1:39] end [1:40] of [1:40] AUGUST. I [1:41] will [1:41] turn [1:41] this over [1:42] to Rachel [1:42] Rowe [1:43] for [1:43] a [1:44] brief description [1:44] of [1:44] the [1:45] history of [1:45] the [1:46] ferry [1:46] replacement project [1:47] . Good [1:47] morning [1:48] , commissioners, and [1:49] good morning [1:49] teg [1:50] members [1:50] . Um [1:51] , [1:51] you're gonna hear from [1:52] Sandy [1:53] McKeon, the chair of [1:53] the tag [1:54] , [1:55] uh, but before that, I just [1:56] wanted to give [1:57] a [1:57] brief project [1:58] update [1:59] . Um, kind of [2:00] talk about [2:00] how we [2:01] got here [2:02] . The discussion [2:02] of [2:04] replacing Skagit County's [2:05] ferry really began back [2:06] in 2013 [2:07] We hired [2:07] Elliott [2:07] a [2:08] Design Group [2:09] to [2:09] do [2:09] uh a [2:11] replacement study. [2:11] They [2:12] determined that out of [2:12] 3 [2:12] options [2:15] , uh immediate tenure [2:16] and [2:16] 20-year [2:17] intervals [2:18] for [2:18] replacement [2:19] that [2:19] an [2:20] immediate [2:20] replacement [2:21] was [2:21] preferred. Uh [2:22] , [2:22] it [2:22] was [2:23] the [2:23] most [2:24] economically [2:25] viable choice for the county at [2:26] the time [2:27] . It [2:27] wasn't [2:28] until [2:28] 2017 [2:28] that [2:29] we hired Gloucton [2:30] and [2:30] previous to that, we had heard [2:30] a [2:31] lot [2:31] of [2:32] ideas about all [2:33] electric [2:34] tech technology uh [2:34] brought to us [2:35] as an option for [2:36] our [2:36] replacement ferry [2:37] . Glasson [2:38] was hired with [2:38] the intent [2:39] of [2:40] designing an [2:41] all-electric [2:41] vessel to [2:41] replace the [2:42] current [2:43] diesel power ferry [2:43] that we have [2:45] They [2:45] worked on that design for [2:46] quite a [2:46] while [2:47] and [2:47] finally [2:47] in [2:49] 2023, we went out for a [2:50] bid at [2:50] the end of the [2:51] year for the [2:52] new [2:52] vessel [2:53] . In JANUARY [2:54] of 2024 [2:56] , the [2:56] commissioners rejected those [2:57] bids. They did come in higher [2:58] than [2:59] the engineer's estimate. [2:59] Uh [3:00] , the vessel [3:02] , uh, [3:03] construction bids came in at 23 [3:05] to [3:05] $24 million [3:07] . At the [3:08] same [3:09] time, uh, some of our [3:10] funding [3:10] , [3:10] which [3:11] totaled [3:12] about [3:12] 35 [3:12] million [3:12] potentially [3:13] at [3:14] that point [3:14] was [3:15] in jeopardy, with [3:16] 24 [3:17] million [3:17] being from [3:18] the [3:18] cca and [3:19] the cca [3:19] going for [3:21] a [3:21] vote [3:22] in NOVEMBER [3:23] of [3:24] 2024 [3:25] to possibly [3:26] uh be repealed [3:26] meaning [3:27] we [3:27] would [3:28] potentially [3:28] lose $24 [3:29] million in [3:29] funding and [3:30] the [3:31] cca is [3:31] the Washington [3:32] State [3:33] Climate Commitment Act [3:33] funding. [3:33] Yeah [3:34] , we [3:35] , we received that [3:35] through the Move [3:36] Ahead [3:37] Washington Act [3:37] and two [3:37] separate [3:38] installments [3:39] . Of [3:39] 14 [3:39] and then [3:41] 10 [3:41] million [3:42] , uh, which the 10 [3:43] million was [3:44] subject to that [3:44] vote in NOVEMBER [3:46] of 2024 [3:48] . The [3:49] um, the voters voted in [3:50] NOVEMBER [3:50] of 24. It [3:50] did not [3:51] get [3:51] repealed [3:52] . But we [3:53] did not go [3:53] back [3:54] out for [3:54] bid [3:55] , rather [3:55] , the [3:57] board decided that they [3:59] wanted [3:59] to [4:00] give [4:01] um the citizens of [4:02] voice in [4:03] the project at the [4:03] time [4:04] , there [4:04] were concerns about [4:06] the [4:07] all-electric replacement [4:08] , [4:09] uh, technology specific to [4:10] the [4:10] charging arm [4:11] , its size [4:11] , its [4:11] cost [4:13] , it's complexity [4:14] . And so [4:15] , [4:15] uh, the board [4:16] elected [4:17] to form [4:17] the [4:18] temporary advisory [4:19] group to [4:19] give you [4:20] a recommendation [4:21] . Uh [4:21] , [4:22] they were [4:23] informed [4:23] of [4:24] uh [4:24] project [4:26] history [4:26] timeline. We [4:26] went over [4:27] the initial design [4:28] . [4:29] We went over all of the [4:29] different [4:30] propulsion options. [4:31] They [4:31] really spent a lot of [4:33] time [4:33] volunteering their time on this [4:34] group [4:36] , digging into the work [4:36] that's already [4:37] been done [4:38] and [4:39] thoughtfully creating [4:39] a [4:40] recommendation that you're [4:40] getting [4:41] here today [4:42] . Again [4:42] , [4:43] they're going to produce [4:43] our [4:44] final [4:45] advisory report at [4:45] the [4:45] end [4:46] of AUGUST [4:46] . You [4:47] did receive [4:47] today [4:48] an [4:48] executive summary [4:49] , as [4:49] well [4:49] as [4:51] um another document [4:51] containing [4:51] the [4:52] propulsion [4:52] options that [4:53] they [4:53] looked [4:53] more [4:55] thoroughly yet. And with [4:56] that, [4:56] unless you have [4:57] any questions [4:58] about [4:58] the project itself, I'll [4:59] turn [4:59] it over [5:00] to [5:01] Sandy McKeon to [5:02] give [5:02] his presentation of the [5:03] tag's [5:04] recommendation. [5:05] Commissioner Browning, do you [5:05] any questions [5:07] ? Not yet [5:08] All [5:09] right, Sandy, you're up [5:09] . Rachel [5:10] So [5:11] , uh, there was [5:11] a [5:12] bioengineering on [5:13] the [5:13] Glasson [5:13] thing, that [5:14] report, when's it [5:14] coming [5:15] or [5:16] what's the story on [5:16] that one [5:17] ? Yes [5:18] , we [5:18] , uh, did a [5:19] value [5:21] engineering workshop [5:22] in [5:23] APRIL [5:23] , we [5:24] are working [5:24] with [5:24] a [5:25] consultant now [5:26] to finalize [5:27] the [5:27] study [5:28] . We're working [5:28] on [5:29] updating [5:30] cost estimates [5:30] , and [5:31] we [5:31] should [5:31] have that [5:32] report by the [5:32] end of [5:33] AUGUST as [5:33] well. So [5:34] at [5:34] the same [5:34] time you get [5:35] the [5:35] tag [5:36] recommendation, you'll also [5:36] see [5:36] the [5:37] value [5:37] engineering [5:38] recommendations [5:38] . The [5:38] value [5:39] engineering is just on [5:40] an [5:40] all-electric [5:40] type of [5:42] ferry [5:43] , [5:43] correct? The [5:44] value engineering [5:45] looked [5:45] at [5:46] the all-electric [5:48] uh [5:48] design [5:49] as [5:49] a base [5:50] . Uh [5:51] , several [5:52] ideas and [5:52] proposals [5:52] were [5:54] generated surrounding [5:54] different [5:55] alternatives [5:56] and [5:56] options [5:57] for [5:59] your consideration [5:59] . Um [6:00] so yes [6:01] , [6:01] it focused on [6:01] all electric [6:02] as [6:03] the base design [6:05] . Thank [6:06] you [6:07] . [6:08] Thank you very much for the [6:08] committee being here [6:09] . We [6:10] really [6:10] appreciate [6:10] that and [6:11] all your [6:12] time and effort and [6:12] the [6:13] knowledge [6:14] that this group [6:14] brought together. It [6:15] was [6:15] really [6:15] important [6:16] to have was [6:18] quite fun [6:19] actually in a lot of ways [6:19] , uh, [6:19] we had [6:20] a good [6:21] group and [6:21] with [6:21] lots of [6:22] different perspectives [6:23] , [6:23] and I [6:23] think we're [6:24] pretty proud [6:24] of what we came [6:26] up with, and we [6:26] hope [6:27] it's useful to you [6:28] . Um [6:30] uh [6:30] before we start [6:32] , uh, uh, is [6:32] there anybody on Zoom I'm [6:33] just [6:33] interested [6:34] if [6:34] other [6:35] committee [6:35] members [6:37] . Uh-huh [6:37] , I can't see it [6:39] I think I [6:40] see Becca [6:40] Fong [6:41] , I [6:41] think [6:42] . Ok. Good, good morning [6:43] , [6:44] guys. I can join you for just a [6:44] little bit. Andy [6:45] , thanks for [6:46] being there in person, and [6:47] I [6:48] can't see who else is in the [6:49] room either [6:49] . Alan [6:50] and Ryan [6:50] are [6:51] here [6:51] . Thanks [6:51] , Ryan [6:52] , and thanks, [6:53] Ellen, for being there to [6:53] represent [6:55] . Ok [6:55] . Just real quick, [6:55] it [6:56] looks [6:57] like Jonah. Might [6:57] be [6:59] online because sometimes. Yeah, [6:59] I expected Jonah [7:00] . He's [7:01] iPhone. [7:01] Jonah, are you with us [7:03] ? Oh [7:03] , I [7:04] see [7:04] it right here [7:06] . Jonah [7:06] is [7:08] a [7:08] tugboat captain, and he spends [7:09] a lot of time there [7:10] , so he [7:10] , he [7:11] was in our meetings [7:12] often [7:12] by [7:13] Zoom because he [7:13] was [7:16] anchored [7:17] someplace, which was sort of [7:17] appropriate for our [7:18] group [7:19] , uh, [7:19] but anyway, good morning [7:20] , uh [7:21] . I [7:22] think most people in this room [7:23] know me because [7:23] I've been [7:24] involved with the [7:24] ferry for a [7:25] decade or [7:26] so [7:26] or [7:27] more except [7:28] Joe [7:29] who's not [7:30] here yet [7:38] . Let's see, [7:38] I just have [7:39] to push these [7:40] buttons, right [7:42] ? Ok [7:47] ok [7:48] , well [7:48] , we [7:49] were created as a [7:49] technical [7:51] advisory group [7:52] , uh, by [7:53] resolution, which [7:53] the numbers [7:54] there [7:56] . And asked to do [7:56] these [7:58] things [7:58] , uh, that to [8:02] in [8:02] fact, [8:03] let me just sort of [8:04] say one [8:05] thing. There's sort of a [8:06] a [8:07] feeling of some of the things [8:07] that were said just this [8:09] morning that we were looking at [8:11] a [8:11] complete [8:11] set [8:12] of [8:12] options for [8:13] a [8:14] new [8:15] ferry [8:16] . Actually, what we [8:16] focused on, because it [8:17] makes [8:18] sense when you work [8:19] through [8:19] it [8:21] was what, looking at [8:22] the [8:23] alternative propulsion options. [8:24] That's [8:24] really [8:25] what's [8:25] key in [8:26] terms [8:27] of [8:27] size [8:28] or capacity [8:29] , [8:29] things [8:30] like that [8:30] are [8:31] well done [8:31] and [8:32] probably [8:32] quite [8:33] useful from [8:33] the [8:34] Gloucestton design [8:34] from [8:35] years ago [8:35] , so [8:35] the [8:36] propulsion is [8:36] really [8:37] the key thing [8:39] . And so [8:39] we [8:39] were to [8:40] look [8:40] at these [8:41] things [8:41] according to you [8:42] guys in [8:43] your [8:43] resolution [8:45] , uh, and [8:45] so those [8:46] are the [8:47] , the options that we [8:48] looked at [8:52] . We [8:52] were defined to [8:53] be [8:54] a nine-member group [8:56] Good [8:56] morning, Joe. My [8:57] name is [8:58] Sandy [8:58] McKeon. Apologies for being [8:59] late. No problem [9:00] . Thank you [9:01] . Um [9:01] we [9:03] just started [9:03] . Um [9:05] and [9:06] 5 of [9:07] the [9:08] members were to be [9:08] residents [9:09] of [9:10] Guaymas Island [9:11] , [9:12] and [9:12] 4 [9:12] representatives from [9:14] Skagitt County [9:16] , uh, not living [9:17] on the island, although some of [9:19] that's changed since [9:19] since [9:20] since, since the resolution [9:21] was [9:22] passed. Uh [9:23] , but [9:23] the four [9:24] representatives are really [9:24] to [9:25] be [9:26] focused [9:26] on [9:27] more expertise in [9:27] the [9:28] maritime industry [9:30] . Such [9:31] things as in fact we [9:32] did cover [9:33] these things um [9:34] . Operating a [9:35] vessel in these [9:37] local [9:37] waters [9:38] . [9:39] We [9:39] have [9:39] one [9:40] member [9:41] , Corey [9:43] , who [9:43] was the [9:44] marine [9:46] Delivery Service [9:46] We know [9:46] , we know [9:47] him as [9:47] what [9:48] we'll get [9:48] into that in a [9:50] moment [9:51] the [9:52] things you can read there [9:53] , [9:54] naval architecture, and [9:54] then we [9:55] had county membership [9:55] . We've [9:56] already said [9:57] that here [9:57] this [9:57] morning, and we [9:58] have [9:58] some [9:58] consultants [10:01] . Uh [10:02] and I [10:03] just make [10:04] it an aside, by the [10:04] way [10:04] , I [10:05] thought [10:06] the [10:06] consultants did a [10:06] terrific job. They [10:08] work with us [10:08] all the way through and [10:09] really [10:09] facilitated the [10:10] whole [10:11] thing. So [10:11] it's really [10:12] a compliment to [10:13] you [10:14] three because [10:14] here at [10:15] the time, [10:15] I guess [10:16] , but [10:17] uh because you [10:17] picked those [10:18] consultants, I [10:18] think you did [10:19] an [10:19] excellent job [10:26] . [10:26] See [10:28] My, my [10:29] way of thinking [10:29] , [10:30] these buttons work [10:31] . Backwards, [10:31] so I'll keep doing [10:32] that [10:33] , I'm [10:33] sure [10:33] . Um [10:34] , so here [10:35] are the [10:35] members of [10:35] the [10:36] tag [10:36] , uh, Paul [10:37] Becker, who's a [10:38] naval architect [10:40] uh Allan [10:41] Bush is here [10:42] with us [10:42] as one of the [10:43] GAMus members [10:44] , [10:44] Becca Fong [10:45] , who [10:45] you heard was [10:46] on [10:47] Zoom [10:47] . Corey Jost [10:47] , that was [10:48] , [10:49] that's the [10:51] uh San [10:51] Juan [10:51] Marine [10:52] Freight [10:53] . Whose [10:55] runs [10:56] a [10:56] barge on [10:56] the on [10:58] these waters [10:58] . And [10:58] he's [10:59] sort of a [11:00] , a savior to us [11:00] on [11:01] Glamis Island. You [11:02] probably [11:03] know that when the ferry [11:03] has [11:04] problems, he's [11:05] the guy [11:05] at [11:06] midnight, it doesn't matter [11:06] . He [11:07] gets us [11:07] off that [11:08] island [11:08] and [11:08] back [11:09] , so he's kind of a hero [11:09] to [11:10] us [11:11] . Um [11:12] myself [11:13] , my [11:14] background [11:14] was, is [11:16] , management [11:16] consulting [11:17] and [11:18] project management [11:18] which [11:18] is [11:19] kind [11:20] of [11:20] why I think I became [11:21] the chair [11:22] . I [11:23] didn't have the [11:23] expertise [11:24] the [11:24] rest [11:25] did [11:27] . Uh Ryan [11:28] Monahan [11:29] , who's here with us [11:29] , [11:29] who works [11:30] for PACar and [11:31] has [11:31] worked [11:32] specifically [11:33] on [11:34] doing [11:34] electrification of [11:36] power [11:36] trains [11:36] on [11:37] large vehicles, so [11:38] a [11:38] great [11:39] big truck and [11:39] a ferry are [11:40] not [11:41] so different from each other [11:41] . [11:41] Um [11:45] Adam Paul, who [11:45] is [11:47] in this [11:47] area and builds boats [11:52] . Jonah [11:52] Patrick [11:53] , who's baby with us [11:53] on [11:54] Zoom, as I said before, he's [11:56] a [11:57] tugboat captain, and Tom [11:58] Fouts, [11:59] who lives on the island [11:59] , who [11:59] has a lot [12:01] of experience in [12:01] the [12:01] maritime [12:02] and as [12:04] aeronomical [12:06] industries in [12:07] terms [12:08] of large [12:08] machinery and engines and [12:10] diesels and how all [12:11] that works [12:16] . [12:17] So this is a [12:17] very busy [12:18] slide [12:19] . [12:19] I'm not [12:20] , I'm not expecting [12:21] you [12:21] to read [12:21] this particularly, [12:22] although [12:23] I highlighted some of [12:23] the [12:24] more [12:25] important parts [12:26] , um, [12:26] these in the [12:28] next [12:29] slide [12:30] represent [12:30] the [12:32] 6 [12:32] propulsion [12:33] options that we looked [12:33] at [12:35] , ok [12:35] ? [12:36] And [12:36] one of [12:37] the first things [12:37] that we [12:37] uh [12:39] um [12:42] so to [12:43] get this [12:43] right here [12:44] . One of the first [12:46] things we had to deal [12:47] with was [12:48] the [12:49] terminology. When [12:50] you say [12:51] diesel hybrid [12:53] Ron [12:53] , you might [12:53] think of [12:55] one thing, and [12:55] I might [12:55] think [12:57] of another [12:57] , and [12:58] Alan here [12:58] MAY [12:59] think of another [13:00] . It's, it [13:00] gets [13:01] confusing even to the [13:02] industry. If you [13:03] read [13:04] articles [13:04] or [13:04] hear [13:05] presentations [13:07] , um, you [13:07] , [13:08] you [13:08] find out [13:09] after 5 [13:09] minutes of [13:09] discussion [13:10] , you're talking [13:11] apples [13:11] and [13:11] oranges [13:12] . And we [13:12] , we [13:13] struggled with that for a [13:13] couple [13:15] of meetings [13:16] , uh, and [13:16] finally decides, you know [13:17] , we [13:17] really needed to [13:18] find this [13:18] clearly [13:19] , and that's part of, I [13:20] think [13:20] , the value [13:22] of [13:22] these [13:23] , uh, [13:24] it's on two slides here [13:24] , but [13:25] you have it on one [13:26] page [13:26] in [13:27] your [13:27] packet, and the reason [13:28] I [13:29] included that in [13:29] your [13:29] packet [13:30] is [13:31] not for [13:31] this presentation so [13:32] much, but as you [13:33] think [13:33] through [13:34] this [13:34] or read [13:34] the report [13:35] in [13:36] AUGUST [13:37] , um, you'll have [13:37] this [13:38] to [13:38] refer to [13:40] . It's I [13:40] can't [13:41] stress [13:41] enough to keep [13:42] it [13:42] straight. [13:43] What you mean [13:43] by [13:44] plug-in hybrid [13:45] What [13:45] you [13:46] mean by [13:47] diesel hybrid [13:47] , [13:47] and [13:48] the industry has some of [13:48] the [13:50] same problem in [13:51] terms of [13:51] keeping these [13:52] terms straight [13:53] . [13:53] Uh, we kind [13:54] of settled on [13:54] these [13:54] a lot of it came out [13:55] of [13:56] Glaston's work. It's very [13:56] similar to [13:57] what [13:58] Glaston did and [13:59] also other [14:00] industry sources [14:01] . Uh [14:07] Now there's [14:09] cer [14:09] certain things [14:10] the [14:11] sort of common [14:13] to all [14:14] of [14:14] these [14:16] and they're the kind of [14:17] key characteristics of [14:18] of [14:18] them [14:19] that that maybe you can't [14:20] keep [14:20] in top [14:21] of [14:21] mind [14:21] . And one [14:22] is [14:22] , [14:23] it's really only [14:23] two [14:24] practical [14:25] energy sources [14:27] . So [14:27] you know, [14:28] the energy [14:29] has to come from [14:30] somewhere, right? It could be [14:30] compressed natural [14:31] gas. It [14:32] could [14:32] be [14:32] diesel [14:34] , but really the [14:35] only practical ones that [14:35] come [14:36] down to in terms [14:37] of here [14:37] in [14:39] Skagitt County would [14:39] be diesel [14:40] and electric [14:41] . There's [14:42] depressed [14:43] natural gas [14:43] . There's hydrogen [14:44] , [14:44] there's things like that [14:46] are [14:46] being used [14:47] , usually [14:47] not [14:48] very [14:49] commonly used in [14:49] the industry [14:50] , [14:50] but [14:50] we just one [14:51] of the [14:51] things [14:51] that [14:52] we [14:52] can't [14:53] concluded [14:53] was [14:54] those things are just [14:54] not [14:55] practical for [14:56] the [14:56] foreseeable [14:57] future. They're [14:57] just not [14:58] available [14:58] in this area [15:00] . If [15:00] you [15:00] see the [15:01] word [15:01] diesel in any of [15:03] these six [15:04] propulsion options [15:05] . [15:05] That [15:05] means [15:06] diesel [15:06] is the source [15:07] of [15:08] the energy [15:08] that [15:09] is [15:10] diesel [15:10] is [15:10] pre, not [15:11] , not [15:12] 100% usually [15:12] but [15:13] or often [15:14] , but [15:15] that's what's [15:15] driving the boat. That's where [15:16] the energy's [15:17] coming from diesel [15:18] If you see [15:18] the [15:19] word [15:19] hybrid, [15:20] that means there's a battery [15:21] in [15:21] there someplace [15:23] So [15:23] , uh [15:24] , that [15:26] helps to distinguish between [15:26] these things [15:28] . Most [15:30] of [15:30] the [15:31] options, even [15:32] if [15:33] they're diesel [15:35] often have generators [15:35] on [15:37] board [15:38] and that's [15:38] for [15:39] backup [15:39] reasons [15:40] and [15:40] but certainly uh [15:41] one [15:41] of [15:42] the [15:44] options that's [15:45] um let's [15:46] say, [15:46] this is one of the [15:48] slides [15:48] that [15:48] we had two [15:49] different pieces, [15:49] sets of [15:51] software doing this and [15:51] they, they [15:51] didn't [15:52] quite [15:53] translate, so this [15:53] slide went [15:54] off the edge here [15:55] , but [15:56] , um, in [15:56] the diesel [15:57] hybrid [15:57] , for instance [15:58] um [16:02] , the diesel [16:02] is [16:06] providing the [16:06] energy [16:08] through a [16:09] generator and [16:09] the [16:11] electricity goes and drives [16:11] the [16:12] boat [16:13] through an [16:13] electric [16:14] motor [16:15] . So those [16:15] are the things [16:16] that [16:16] are highlighted, for [16:17] instance, a [16:18] plug-in [16:18] hybrid is [16:20] the power [16:22] is provided [16:22] . Through [16:22] an [16:25] electric motor, and there's [16:25] a lot of [16:26] electricity [16:26] being used [16:27] and often is [16:28] the primary energy [16:29] source [16:29] . Others here [16:33] say [16:40] diesel [16:40] mechanical, which is [16:41] the [16:41] definition [16:42] which is the way you [16:43] would describe [16:44] the [16:44] current [16:45] Weymouth ferry [16:46] , the [16:47] powers [16:48] provided mechanically to [16:48] the [16:49] propeller [16:50] . Solely by [16:51] diesel [16:52] engines, so [16:52] there's no [16:53] generator involved, although [16:53] there might be one [16:54] on board [16:58] . [16:58] This is [17:00] you know, too busy to [17:01] see [17:02] really here, but [17:03] in [17:03] the [17:04] report when [17:04] you get it at the [17:05] end of [17:05] AUGUST [17:07] , we included, and [17:08] most of this came from [17:09] Boston, [17:09] by the way, done [17:10] years ago [17:12] , uh, [17:13] a schematic of [17:13] each of [17:14] these [17:14] now [17:16] . Just [17:17] reading [17:18] this [17:18] , say [17:19] it's kind of hard to keep in [17:20] mind and it's easy to [17:21] get [17:21] confused [17:22] , but it [17:24] the [17:25] graphic [17:25] here really helps with that. So [17:26] I encourage [17:27] you when you look [17:27] at [17:28] the report to look [17:29] at these [17:29] , [17:30] uh, a lot of [17:30] this makes sense [17:32] when you look at the [17:34] the [17:35] schematic. You can [17:36] see where [17:37] the generators [17:37] are [17:37] , where they [17:38] feed into [17:39] In [17:39] this case, it's a [17:41] plug-in hybrid [17:41] . There's [17:41] electric motors [17:48] . So [17:49] in [17:49] your [17:50] resolution you asked us [17:51] to look [17:52] at [17:52] these [17:53] 6 [17:53] propulsion options [17:55] . [17:55] Using these criteria [17:57] . And we [18:00] dropped a couple of them and [18:00] you'll [18:01] see why and we added [18:01] a [18:02] couple [18:03] , but [18:03] there are [18:03] in [18:04] the [18:05] end [18:05] 9 [18:06] evaluation criteria [18:10] . So [18:10] if you're trying to decide, I [18:11] mean [18:12] , basically our [18:13] task [18:14] was [18:14] of [18:14] those [18:16] 6 [18:17] propulsion options, [18:17] which one will [18:19] we recommend to [18:19] you [18:19] ? Or perhaps [18:21] a [18:21] couple of [18:22] them perhaps if that made sense [18:26] which I think as we went [18:26] along [18:27] we decided [18:28] that we really need [18:29] to get [18:30] to [18:30] one [18:31] because handing [18:31] you two [18:32] different options [18:33] , just [18:33] you know [18:35] , passes the buck [18:35] to [18:36] you. So that's [18:37] our job [18:37] , so we [18:37] really [18:38] worked hard to [18:38] get [18:38] a [18:39] single option [18:43] . These [18:44] , the [18:44] first [18:44] thing we did [18:46] when we got to [18:46] this [18:47] evaluation phase [18:48] was to [18:48] rank [18:49] these 6 [18:51] . 9 [18:51] criteria [18:53] . That [18:55] we would use [18:55] to evaluate the [18:55] 6 [18:57] propulsion options [18:58] . So these [18:58] are [18:59] in the [19:00] order that we came [19:00] to. We did a [19:01] little [19:02] exercise [19:02] where [19:02] we [19:03] all, uh [19:04] , through [19:04] a [19:05] process [19:07] prioritize these [19:08] 9 [19:09] options [19:09] , and this is the [19:10] the [19:11] , [19:11] the [19:11] , the [19:13] groups [19:13] this [19:13] decision [19:14] of the importance of each one [19:14] of those [19:15] , so [19:16] capital [19:16] cost [19:17] was [19:18] number one [19:20] . The [19:20] maintenance [19:21] cost [19:22] , the liability, and I [19:22] just [19:23] point out one of these [19:24] things [19:25] there. In fact, this came from [19:25] Ryan [19:26] , I think [19:27] , uh, really [19:28] struck [19:29] me [19:29] is reliability [19:30] . The [19:30] ferry service [19:31] is [19:31] a lifeline [19:32] , [19:32] not [19:32] a [19:33] luxury [19:33] , and that's the [19:34] name of [19:34] the game on [19:35] Glamis [19:36] Island. I'm sure you've heard [19:36] that from [19:38] many people [19:38] from Guay [19:38] misses [19:38] . It's [19:40] how we get to the [19:41] doctor. It's how we see our [19:42] family. It's [19:43] it's [19:43] , uh, it's, [19:43] it's [19:44] like a member of the [19:45] family [19:45] , that fairy [19:46] hunt [19:47] , [19:47] everybody who lives on the [19:48] island [19:48] , I [19:49] think, um [19:50] so [19:50] you [19:50] could [19:51] read [19:52] these [19:52] complexity [19:52] is [19:52] something [19:54] to [19:54] consider [19:54] . [19:54] Emissions [19:55] is [19:56] very [19:58] important [19:58] in [19:59] a sort of an [19:59] indirect way [20:00] . We [20:01] all would like to [20:03] help [20:03] with [20:03] emissions in the [20:04] world [20:05] , but [20:05] it [20:06] turns out, as I think [20:07] you well [20:07] know [20:08] , the [20:08] funders really [20:10] like [20:10] an [20:12] option that's cuts [20:12] back [20:14] emissions. I mean, just look [20:14] what's happening with [20:16] the [20:16] Washington State [20:17] ferry [20:17] systems [20:18] . [20:19] They're moving, trying [20:20] to [20:21] move [20:21] quickly to [20:21] electrify in [20:23] order [20:23] to reduce emissions [20:25] . Uh [20:25] , so [20:25] that becomes a [20:26] very important [20:27] thing as much for [20:28] the [20:30] environment or as much for [20:30] the [20:31] funding of [20:31] the [20:32] project as it is [20:33] for the environment [20:34] . The other [20:34] thing on [20:35] emissions are [20:36] the [20:37] newer engine, anything to [20:37] replace it [20:38] . The [20:38] standards are [20:39] dramatically different than [20:39] they were 40 [20:40] years [20:41] ago [20:41] . The [20:42] engines today [20:43] have much [20:43] less [20:44] emissions [20:45] . But [20:45] from the, I [20:46] think the funding you've [20:47] had [20:48] already [20:50] , uh, and I what I [20:50] can [20:50] tell it's going to be that [20:51] way [20:52] for [20:52] at [20:53] least several [20:54] more [20:54] years [20:55] That's a, that's a hot [20:56] button [20:57] with the funders. They're still [20:57] going to want to see that. I [20:58] think one [20:59] of their [20:59] first [20:59] questions [21:00] would be, how do [21:00] you [21:01] help with admissions [21:01] with this [21:02] project [21:11] ? So [21:13] we have [21:14] 9 [21:15] criteria [21:15] to [21:16] evaluate 6 options [21:17] . So how [21:17] do [21:19] we go [21:19] about doing that [21:21] ? And [21:21] the [21:24] consultants really helped [21:24] us here in [21:26] many ways, but here [21:26] in particular. We were [21:28] kind [21:28] of [21:28] like, how do we put our [21:29] minds [21:31] around applying these [21:31] 9 [21:31] criteria [21:32] , these [21:33] 6 options [21:33] . So [21:35] they came up with [21:35] a [21:35] scheme. [21:36] Again [21:37] , don't even begin to try [21:37] to read this [21:38] , but [21:39] the [21:39] point is, [21:40] we went through [21:40] a [21:42] process [21:42] where [21:43] vertically [21:44] there is [21:44] the [21:45] 9 [21:45] criteria [21:46] , and we had [21:46] a sheet [21:47] like this for [21:47] each one of [21:48] the [21:48] 6 [21:49] options [21:49] , and each one [21:49] of the [21:50] tag members [21:51] made [21:51] an evaluation [21:52] and [21:52] put a [21:53] number on each [21:53] . For [21:55] each of [21:56] the criteria, something [21:56] let's [21:57] say [21:58] maintenance costs or [21:58] life cycle costs [22:00] . How important [22:01] they thought that was [22:02] . And [22:02] then [22:03] we went through [22:04] a process where [22:04] we [22:07] crunch [22:07] these [22:07] numbers [22:08] together and [22:09] came [22:10] up [22:10] with a [22:11] and [22:13] again, don't try to read this [22:14] particularly, but the [22:15] point [22:15] is [22:15] that [22:16] the group at the bottom [22:16] there [22:18] where it [22:18] says [22:19] final total [22:20] that's how at [22:21] that we were kind [22:22] of [22:22] halfway through our [22:24] our [22:25] uh [22:25] process when we [22:26] got here. [22:27] That's how [22:27] we ranked [22:29] the [22:30] six [22:30] options [22:31] as [22:32] a group [22:33] and with [22:34] everyone's input and [22:35] it didn't [22:36] stay this way, by [22:36] the way [22:38] , but [22:39] they're not in order there, but [22:39] if [22:40] you look [22:41] at the [22:41] highest [22:42] number [22:42] is [22:43] diesel hybrid [22:45] . And [22:45] interestingly, I just point [22:46] this out [22:46] , you'll [22:47] see [22:47] why [22:47] the [22:49] lowest number is [22:50] plug-in hybrid [22:50] at [22:51] that stage [22:51] . And [22:52] I'll [22:52] just [22:52] jump ahead a [22:53] little there, but [22:54] the reason [22:54] that [22:56] happened [22:56] is [22:56] plug-in [22:57] hybrid was [22:58] very [22:59] desirable [22:59] , but Rachel [23:00] already [23:01] mentioned that [23:02] charging arm [23:02] was [23:03] just [23:04] a showstopper [23:05] . It [23:06] was [23:06] expensive [23:07] . It cost [23:08] a lot of [23:10] required a lot [23:10] of change to the [23:12] terminal area [23:14] . Uh [23:14] , it's [23:14] only [23:15] made [23:16] , as I [23:16] understand, still [23:16] , [23:17] Rachel, in one [23:18] country, Germany [23:19] I believe, is that right [23:21] ? And [23:21] really there's [23:23] no technical [23:23] people here to [23:23] service [23:25] it [23:25] . So [23:28] all those things as we [23:28] discussed these really [23:29] brought [23:30] the numbers [23:30] down [23:32] for plug-in [23:32] hybrid [23:34] . But the [23:35] point [23:36] is we [23:36] went through [23:37] a [23:38] rigorous [23:39] objective process [23:39] to [23:40] try [23:41] to [23:41] evaluate the six [23:42] options using [23:43] the 9 [23:44] criteria that you laid [23:44] out in [23:45] your resolution [23:48] . So [23:50] here [23:51] here, without [23:52] trying to read [23:53] all that [23:53] . Here's [23:54] the [23:54] , the [23:55] meaning of it. The [23:56] top [23:57] 3 [23:57] propulsions options, so we're [23:58] trying [23:59] to reduce the number of [23:59] things we're [24:00] looking at [24:01] was [24:02] mechanical diesel like we [24:02] have [24:03] now [24:04] . Diesel hybrid [24:06] and series [24:06] , [24:06] which is a [24:08] diesel [24:08] is the [24:09] , as [24:09] I [24:09] said before [24:10] , diesel means [24:11] that's the [24:11] energy source [24:12] , but [24:13] it [24:13] goes [24:14] through [24:15] generators [24:15] that [24:16] charge batteries [24:17] . The [24:17] word [24:17] hybrid means [24:18] there's [24:19] batteries [24:20] involved, that drives [24:21] electric [24:22] motors, but the energy is still [24:23] coming from diesel [24:24] and then [24:25] diesel electric [24:26] , which is a [24:26] little [24:27] bit different [24:28] . So [24:29] we [24:29] rejected [24:30] 3 [24:31] of them, 3 of [24:31] the of [24:32] the 6 and [24:33] and [24:33] these [24:35] the [24:35] remaining [24:35] three [24:36] were our [24:37] top [24:38] options. Ones we [24:39] rejected was [24:40] plug-in hybrid for the reasons [24:40] I just mentioned [24:42] . Uh [24:42] , the [24:44] diesel hybrid [24:44] parallel, that's [24:45] where you [24:46] have [24:47] both diesel [24:49] it, [24:49] it [24:50] has two [24:51] drive shafts. It's [24:51] , [24:51] it's used [24:54] in maritime industry [24:54] in certain [24:54] particular [24:55] applications [24:55] , but especially [24:56] the [24:57] maritime [24:57] people [24:58] uh on the [24:58] tag who [24:59] who [25:00] work in that [25:00] industry for a [25:02] living [25:02] , thought [25:02] that that would be just a [25:03] ridiculous [25:04] way to [25:04] do it for a [25:05] ferry like this, so that was an [25:06] easy one [25:07] . And [25:07] the last [25:08] one was [25:09] the lummy [25:09] Fay design [25:09] , as you [25:11] well know, Lummy [25:11] is going [25:12] forward with also doing a [25:13] new [25:13] ferry [25:14] like this, and [25:14] they're [25:15] using a [25:17] a [25:18] hybrid [25:19] design and [25:20] so [25:21] the idea of [25:22] including the [25:22] you [25:23] included it in [25:24] the resolution [25:25] of making it one of the options [25:27] is maybe we [25:27] could piggyback [25:27] with them and save [25:29] money and [25:30] effort and a lot [25:30] of things [25:31] by [25:31] somehow [25:34] um having a joint thing [25:34] or at least [25:36] working together, [25:36] but we, we [25:38] talked about that [25:38] quite a [25:39] bit because the [25:39] maritime [25:40] people on [25:40] the tag [25:42] could see how [25:43] much money could [25:43] be [25:45] saved by asking a boatyard [25:45] to build two boats [25:47] instead of [25:47] one [25:48] . And things like [25:49] that, but [25:50] we just felt that it was [25:51] too [25:52] complicated [25:52] . Their timetables [25:53] very different [25:54] than yours. Uh [25:54] , [25:54] and [25:55] we thought [25:56] the coordination [25:57] between the two counties would [25:58] be [25:59] almost impossible. You've [26:00] got your requirements [26:01] . They've [26:02] got theirs [26:03] . They're [26:03] fairy [26:03] writers [26:04] have [26:04] certain [26:05] priorities [26:05] that [26:06] they want [26:06] . We have [26:06] ones [26:06] and [26:07] trying to get [26:07] that [26:08] all [26:09] coordinated would just [26:09] be too [26:10] complex, we thought [26:17] . So [26:21] cause [26:22] I'm gonna head there a little [26:22] bit [26:25] . So [26:26] we sat [26:26] there with [26:27] those [26:27] 3 [26:28] and we [26:29] started discussing [26:29] pros [26:30] and cons, which of the [26:30] three would be our [26:31] top [26:32] recommendation [26:33] . And [26:34] at [26:35] the end [26:35] of our [26:37] MARCH meeting [26:39] just [26:39] before we close [26:41] for [26:41] the day [26:43] , um [26:44] Brian sitting here [26:45] App [26:45] , who [26:46] again works a pack car and [26:46] works [26:48] with electrification as [26:49] large vehicles. Made [26:50] a [26:50] comment [26:50] saying, you [26:51] know [26:52] , smaller [26:52] , [26:53] cheaper charging options [26:54] exist [26:54] today [26:55] . And when he [26:55] met by [26:56] today [26:57] was compared to [26:57] 10 [26:58] years ago [26:59] when [26:59] Gloucton did [27:00] its [27:00] preliminary [27:01] . Design [27:03] In [27:04] other [27:04] words, and that [27:05] , that we [27:06] all [27:06] walked out the door [27:08] . And [27:08] it [27:08] wasn't like, hey, I'm going to [27:09] announce this. It was [27:10] just [27:10] an [27:11] offhand comment he made [27:13] . But [27:13] some of us [27:14] started thinking [27:15] about that in [27:15] the [27:16] intervening [27:17] months before [27:17] the [27:19] APRIL [27:19] meeting [27:20] so [27:20] much of [27:22] , well [27:22] , basically, [27:23] all of [27:24] the rejection [27:24] of [27:24] the [27:26] tag [27:26] of [27:27] an all-electric [27:29] . Ferry was [27:30] because of that charging arm [27:31] . [27:31] And [27:34] we hadn't really thought, I [27:34] guess [27:35] , in [27:35] several years [27:36] . Is [27:36] that [27:37] technology still the [27:38] latest thing out there [27:40] ? Well [27:41] so [27:42] we asked, actually, I [27:42] called [27:43] Ryan up [27:44] and asked him if he'd [27:44] give us a [27:45] quick presentation in [27:46] the [27:48] APRIL meeting of what [27:48] these [27:49] new options were [27:51] . He came [27:51] back [27:51] with a [27:52] terrific presentation [27:53] , [27:53] and it was [27:53] a [27:54] key moment [27:56] . In [27:57] the [27:57] tags operation [27:58] because because [27:58] it gave us a [27:59] whole [28:00] another [28:00] perspective [28:05] . This is what [28:09] today's [28:09] charging options could [28:10] look like [28:12] . You don't see a big [28:13] swinging arm [28:15] . These [28:15] are [28:16] charging stations [28:16] , not [28:17] so [28:18] undididididididididiet's say [28:20] hybrid car [28:20] . Uh [28:20] , they're [28:22] about [28:22] the size of [28:23] two refrigerators. [28:23] Would that be [28:24] about right [28:25] ? Um [28:34] the difference is [28:36] uh, actually [28:37] , [28:38] I mentioned this a little later [28:39] but uh, ok, I'll say it [28:40] oh I [28:40] see, here we go [28:47] . So [28:49] , today's [28:49] technology [28:50] of smaller [28:51] charging [28:52] stations [28:54] eliminate [28:54] those [28:55] negatives of [28:56] the char, the [28:58] , the [29:01] all-electric option [29:02] being [29:02] too [29:03] expensive [29:03] the [29:04] big [29:05] infrastructure that's required, [29:06] I think it was [29:07] about [29:07] $10 [29:07] million if I [29:08] remember [29:09] right [29:09] , of [29:10] the original thing was just [29:11] for [29:12] that [29:13] portion. Uh [29:14] I don't know [29:15] if we ever [29:16] solved that what do [29:16] we do with [29:18] handicapped parking [29:19] because of the changes to [29:20] the [29:21] terminal area that would [29:21] be [29:22] required [29:23] , things [29:23] like that [29:24] Uh [29:30] So [29:30] this kind of [29:31] demonstrates [29:32] how [29:33] far technology [29:34] because it [29:34] is a [29:35] fast moving [29:37] area, which [29:38] you [29:39] probably realize this [29:39] whole [29:41] electrification is not just in [29:42] ferry boats [29:43] or [29:43] cars or you know [29:44] it's [29:44] in so [29:45] many [29:45] things [29:46] today [29:46] , [29:47] battery technology [29:48] is [29:48] moving [29:49] quickly [29:50] , so it [29:50] shows you kind [29:50] of in [29:51] 10 years [29:52] , about [29:52] 10 [29:53] years [29:53] , [29:53] how quickly [29:54] this can [29:54] change [29:55] from that big [29:55] swinging arm to [29:55] something [29:57] like this [29:57] . Uh [29:59] and [29:59] there's probably going to be, [30:00] and that's a key thought [30:02] that [30:03] we in [30:04] our conclusions [30:06] is [30:06] that [30:06] that change [30:08] to the [30:09] technology [30:09] isn't [30:10] isn't isn't slowing down [30:13] . [30:13] By some of the [30:14] members who are [30:15] working on [30:15] these things [30:17] , like [30:18] Paul Becker, for instance, who [30:19] works on trying [30:19] to electrify [30:20] boats here in [30:21] this [30:22] area that [30:24] it's hard for them to [30:25] even [30:26] decide to do something right [30:27] now because they know [30:28] in a year [30:29] or two it's going to change so [30:29] much [30:30] . Now you [30:30] can [30:31] futureproof [30:31] that [30:33] , but still [30:35] , he brought [30:35] that perspective to us [30:37] . So at [30:38] least [30:39] talking [30:40] about [30:40] today's [30:40] technology. What this [30:41] , if this [30:42] is what it looks like [30:44] . It [30:44] would [30:45] only [30:47] supply [30:49] the [30:49] the electricity [30:51] that would be [30:53] used on [30:53] , let's [30:54] say a month or a [30:55] year's worth [30:56] of operation [30:57] would [30:57] likely only [30:58] be 50 [30:58] or 75% of [31:00] the [31:00] total [31:01] energy budget [31:02] . Uh [31:02] , if you try [31:03] to do what [31:04] Glaston did, which [31:05] works with a big swinging [31:06] arm [31:07] , [31:07] Glaston's criteria was [31:09] like [31:09] 95% [31:09] of in [31:11] order to [31:11] reduce [31:11] emissions [31:12] as much [31:12] as [31:13] possible [31:13] of the [31:14] energy coming [31:15] from electric [31:16] . Uh [31:16] so [31:19] we [31:20] can't quite replace that [31:20] with these [31:22] two [31:22] refrigerators. [31:22] Uh [31:23] , but if we [31:24] brought [31:24] that [31:25] criteria [31:25] from [31:25] 95%, so [31:26] this [31:27] isn't inconsistent with [31:27] Glaston [31:28] by the way [31:29] . Glawson did the [31:30] right thing [31:31] at that time [31:31] that [31:32] was when [31:32] the objective was [31:33] to [31:34] do 95%, but if [31:34] you lower that [31:36] objective [31:36] a bit, and then the [31:38] batteries get [31:38] smaller and so on [31:39] and so forth [31:47] . This [31:47] is what the [31:48] crew would [31:49] have [31:49] to do in [31:49] this [31:50] smaller charging [31:52] . Technology [31:54] and being the [31:56] commissioners, [31:56] you probably focus on a word [31:57] name cost [31:58] a lot [31:59] . You know, this [31:59] costs [32:00] like [32:01] 10,000, not 10 [32:01] million [32:03] . Uh [32:05] so [32:05] , and [32:05] you imagine [32:06] the boat [32:07] coming into [32:08] the [32:09] dock [32:09] after a [32:10] run [32:10] , is it [32:12] after it's [32:12] docked up, a [32:14] crew member would [32:14] just take this thing much like [32:15] he would do with [32:16] a [32:16] Prius and [32:17] plug it into the ferry, that'd [32:17] be it [32:19] . Uh [32:30] One thing [32:32] that [32:32] would [32:32] just be a, a, oh by [32:35] the way [32:36] , [32:37] these charging [32:37] stations would [32:38] need to be, if [32:38] you think about [32:39] it [32:41] located near the boat [32:41] . [32:42] Because [32:43] you've got a cord here [32:44] that's got to be plugged in [32:44] again like [32:45] a Prius [32:46] . So that [32:46] means [32:48] these charging stations [32:48] would have to be mounted on the [32:49] ramp or [32:50] something like that [32:50] So [32:51] that's just [32:51] a [32:52] technical design [32:53] thing that would have to be [32:53] worked out [32:57] . This is [32:59] weird [33:00] looking slide graphs, but this [33:00] is probably [33:01] the most important [33:02] slide of the whole presentation [33:04] This is how it would work [33:09] as [33:11] you're probably well aware [33:11] , the [33:13] well, I'll just say [33:15] it this way [33:15] the energy required [33:17] to propel [33:17] that boat depends a lot on the [33:18] sea state. So [33:19] if [33:20] it's calm, it [33:20] has certain [33:22] requirements. If [33:22] it's [33:23] bumpy [33:24] and stormy and windy [33:24] and [33:26] so [33:26] on [33:26] . It it [33:27] requires more [33:27] energy [33:28] , and [33:28] that's why there [33:29] are two graphs here. So [33:30] just [33:31] look at the top one there [33:33] . The [33:34] line that goes up is [33:35] when the [33:35] boat's at the dock being [33:37] charged. That red [33:38] line [33:39] is the [33:39] amount of [33:40] kilowatt hours [33:41] available in the [33:42] battery. So if [33:42] you look at [33:42] the top [33:45] , top [33:45] of [33:45] the [33:46] of the of [33:46] the [33:46] graph that's a [33:47] fully charged battery [33:48] , ok? So [33:49] as you run [33:49] the boat [33:51] the [33:53] down [33:53] lines are when the batteries [33:54] are [33:55] being [33:55] discharged to run the [33:56] boat across the channel [33:58] . When [33:58] it gets [34:00] back to [34:00] the Anacored [34:00] stock, it [34:02] gets plugged in and [34:02] it goes [34:02] back [34:03] up [34:04] . And of course [34:04] at [34:05] the noon break, if you look [34:07] there 11:15, there's a [34:07] big jump [34:09] up because there's [34:09] an hour [34:09] and [34:09] 15 [34:11] minutes there to [34:11] charge, [34:12] right [34:13] ? So [34:14] that's [34:15] not so [34:16] different from from all [34:16] electric if you think about it [34:17] . [34:18] Not really [34:20] but [34:20] in [34:20] extreme [34:21] conditions and [34:22] other situations [34:23] if you look toward the end of [34:23] the day, the batteries [34:24] just [34:25] don't have enough. Right [34:26] ? We go [34:27] below 0 there [34:40] . Well [34:41] this [34:43] which [34:43] is [34:44] called plug-in [34:44] , we're [34:45] calling it [34:45] our [34:45] definitions [34:47] , [34:47] plug-in hybrid. There are [34:48] generators on the boat [34:51] So [34:56] if [34:57] you're in that bottom, if it's [34:58] an [34:59] extreme weather situation or [34:59] some other situation [35:00] that [35:01] requires the [35:01] boat [35:01] to use [35:03] more [35:03] energy than typical [35:05] . When [35:05] you [35:06] start getting to whatever [35:07] you [35:07] decide to be, that's getting [35:08] too close now, which could [35:09] be [35:10] zero as you [35:10] see the end of that [35:12] bottom [35:13] graph showing [35:15] . You fire [35:15] up [35:16] the generators [35:18] and most of [35:19] the discussion in the [35:19] tag from [35:21] knowledgeable people [35:22] of [35:23] electrification in the marine [35:24] industry [35:26] . Recommend multiple [35:26] generators [35:27] . Small, each [35:28] one [35:28] being smaller [35:30] um, up to 4 [35:30] even. [35:31] I don't know [35:32] if that makes [35:33] sense on the boat our size [35:35] , but [35:35] certainly 2 [35:36] and there's a [35:37] couple of reasons for that [35:39] . One [35:39] is [35:39] generators [35:41] , as [35:41] most engines, [35:42] run most efficiently [35:43] at [35:43] a [35:44] certain rpm in [35:44] a [35:46] certain speed. [35:46] So if you're trying to vary [35:47] how [35:48] much your [35:48] output is depending [35:49] by varying the [35:50] speed [35:50] , you're [35:51] making that [35:51] generator [35:52] inefficient [35:53] . If you have, let's [35:53] say [35:55] 3 generators [35:55] , it's much [35:56] better. You [35:56] can run [35:56] one [35:57] generator [35:57] at full speed. You [35:58] need more power. Run [35:58] the second [35:59] one [35:59] , maybe [35:59] do that [36:00] full [36:00] speed. [36:00] You see [36:01] what I'm saying [36:02] ? So you [36:03] the generators [36:04] , you [36:04] vary [36:05] the [36:06] power [36:06] produced [36:07] by how [36:07] many [36:08] generators [36:09] are running [36:09] . Each [36:10] generator gets to run [36:11] near its [36:13] most efficient speed [36:15] . Also [36:17] this [36:18] provides a lot [36:19] of [36:19] redundancy, [36:20] certainly compared to the boat [36:20] we [36:21] have now [36:22] . If [36:24] I mean [36:24] , I don't [36:25] I should know this living on [36:26] the island for 15 years, but [36:27] uh [36:29] Rachel, if one of [36:30] the [36:30] engines [36:31] go out [36:31] . Is [36:31] the boat [36:33] out or can [36:33] you run on one engine [36:35] ? Can't [36:35] run on one engine. No [36:36] . No [36:37] . [36:38] Physically you can, but Coast [36:38] Guard says you can't [36:39] . Isn't [36:40] that what it is? Yeah, I mean, [36:41] she [36:42] can get [36:42] back to shore [36:44] , but [36:44] right [36:45] ? Yeah [36:45] , if you [36:45] lose one [36:46] engine [36:46] , you can [36:47] no [36:48] longer [36:49] operate to [36:50] carry [36:50] passengers [36:51] , um [36:51] you [36:52] can move [36:52] the vessel if [36:52] you [36:53] needed to [36:53] to a [36:54] repair facility. [36:54] On Coast [36:55] Guard gives you [36:55] that [36:56] approval, but yeah [36:56] , we're [36:57] out [36:57] of [36:58] service [36:58] . So [36:59] we [36:59] really we're [37:00] not dead on [37:00] the water is what [37:01] I'm getting at [37:01] . So it's [37:02] not. [37:02] Yeah, you [37:03] could move [37:03] it around [37:04] . [37:04] Yeah. But really [37:04] , the [37:05] ferry [37:05] service [37:06] that you're providing [37:07] for which we're very grateful [37:07] on the island, by [37:08] the [37:08] way. Uh [37:08] , [37:09] what would we do [37:09] without [37:09] it [37:11] ? [37:12] Has no redundancy in it [37:12] , really [37:12] Uh [37:13] , you can't even lose one [37:14] engine. We certainly don't have [37:15] a [37:16] second boat. I mean, in this [37:17] situation, there would be [37:18] a [37:18] second boat either [37:18] , but [37:19] the [37:19] point [37:20] is if [37:21] the [37:22] , if you, if [37:23] there's no electricity for [37:23] some [37:23] reason [37:25] , the generators produce [37:25] the electricity [37:26] needed to run [37:27] the boat [37:27] . If [37:28] you got, if [37:29] a [37:30] generator goes down, you got [37:30] another generator [37:32] . So there's [37:34] there's a lot [37:34] of redundancy [37:35] here [37:36] that we don't have today, [37:36] and that's another big [37:37] advantage [37:41] . Another thing [37:41] is [37:42] the [37:43] industry is [37:43] definitely going [37:43] this direction [37:45] Um [37:46] There's [37:47] a [37:47] periodical for the industry [37:48] called Work Boat. I don't know [37:48] if [37:50] you're familiar with that [37:51] , [37:52] but uh it [37:52] , it [37:53] kind of is trends [37:54] in [37:54] the [37:55] industry. Here's just a [37:55] couple of quotes [37:56] again. This is [37:57] in the report [37:57] , so we [37:57] don't need [37:58] to [37:58] read them [37:59] , although [37:59] I've [38:00] underlined [38:00] . Kind [38:01] of [38:01] the reasons [38:01] you've got [38:03] fuel efficiency [38:03] , [38:04] minimize [38:05] emissions [38:06] , improved [38:06] performance [38:07] , um [38:08] that's [38:08] , that's [38:10] a lot of the [38:10] reasons [38:10] why the [38:11] industry [38:12] is going [38:12] in this [38:12] direction [38:13] . The second [38:14] quote is [38:14] kind of like [38:15] , hey [38:16] , everybody's [38:16] doing [38:17] this. The the [38:19] the [38:19] ferry [38:19] fleets built in the [38:21] 70s and [38:21] the [38:22] 80s are reaching the end [38:23] of [38:23] their service lives. That's [38:24] exactly the situation we're in [38:26] and people are [38:27] looking [38:28] at [38:28] electrification [38:28] and also [38:29] the [38:30] federal funds, as we [38:30] mentioned [38:32] before, often are looking for [38:33] lower emissions [38:34] . To [38:35] be awarded. [38:35] So [38:37] uh [38:39] if [38:42] Scatter County goes [38:42] this [38:44] direction, you're right in [38:44] keeping with where the [38:46] industry [38:46] is going [38:47] With [38:48] the proviso that [38:48] it's [38:49] changing quickly again [38:50] . [38:50] It's [38:52] and [38:52] I [38:53] read [38:53] several things [38:53] around [38:54] the [38:55] industry as we're [38:55] putting [38:57] this [38:57] together, where [38:57] people [38:58] are hesitant [38:59] to [38:59] move [39:00] now [39:00] because of the change that [39:02] might occur in 3 years from now [39:02] and yet they feel [39:03] the need [39:04] to [39:04] do it now, especially if [39:04] you've [39:05] got end of service [39:07] . Which is, [39:07] you know [39:08] , our [39:08] fair [39:08] is reaching [39:09] that too [39:13] . So [39:15] here's [39:15] the [39:16] recommendation [39:19] After [39:20] we [39:20] analyzed this idea [39:22] that Ryan [39:23] first mentioned of, hey [39:24] , [39:24] they're smaller. You don't need [39:25] to charge the arm [39:26] . You [39:27] can use [39:27] smaller batteries [39:29] . As long as [39:29] you [39:29] understand [39:31] this zigzag [39:31] thing [39:31] Um [39:33] and you [39:33] have [39:35] redundancy with [39:36] generators. So [39:40] after discussing that [39:42] , the [39:42] tag [39:43] changed if you [39:44] might remember, [39:44] we, we had [39:45] eliminated [39:46] the [39:46] options down [39:47] to 3 [39:47] . Now [39:48] it [39:49] became [39:50] very clear again [39:51] , [39:51] interestingly [39:51] , that [39:52] plug-in [39:52] hybrid on [39:53] the [39:54] initial analysis [39:54] was [39:54] last [39:55] . Now it's [39:56] the first [39:56] . [39:56] It's all [39:57] about [39:58] that charging [39:58] her [39:59] . And cost [40:00] and [40:01] the [40:03] mechanical diesel is [40:04] the #2 [40:05] option. So that's kind of where [40:05] we stood for [40:07] a while [40:07] . We had [40:07] quite a bit [40:09] of [40:09] debate [40:09] about [40:10] this [40:11] . And that's where we [40:12] thought, well, we, we [40:13] could [40:14] recommend to to [40:16] the [40:16] commissioners [40:16] . Here are [40:18] two [40:18] options [40:18] .. Between the two, but [40:19] that seemed like we [40:20] were [40:21] copping out to do that. So we [40:21] had a lot [40:23] of debate about [40:23] it [40:24] . [40:25] And then another [40:25] thought came [40:25] in [40:27] . Which is, if you think [40:28] about it, both [40:29] of these options [40:30] have a flaw [40:32] . The [40:32] plug-in hybrid [40:34] its flaw [40:36] is the [40:36] technology is [40:37] not really mature yet [40:38] It's [40:38] come [40:39] a long ways. You could [40:40] do [40:41] it [40:41] today, but according [40:43] to the [40:43] people like Paul [40:44] who work with [40:45] this all the [40:46] time [40:46] , and [40:46] Ryan [40:48] , uh [40:48] the next 5 years are [40:49] going [40:49] to [40:50] be [40:51] that's kind of gonna be [40:51] the [40:52] sweet spot [40:52] . We find [40:53] it'll [40:54] keep [40:54] improving, but we're past the [40:55] knee of the curve [40:56] then [40:57] something like 5 years from now [40:59] So the [41:01] technology just is [41:01] not [41:02] mature enough yet [41:03] . You could [41:03] do [41:03] it [41:04] but [41:04] you'd be better [41:05] off [41:05] waiting a while [41:08] . The [41:08] mechanical [41:09] diesel has [41:10] a problem [41:11] and that [41:11] is [41:12] once the existing [41:13] ferry [41:13] reaches its [41:14] end of life service [41:17] service life, what do you do [41:17] then [41:17] ? If [41:19] you imagine the end of [41:19] service [41:21] our [41:21] ferry [41:21] is projected. [41:22] I mean [41:23] , there's no science to [41:23] this [41:24] , but to [41:26] be at the end of [41:26] its useful [41:28] service [41:28] in 2039 [41:28] . [41:29] That's a [41:30] 60-year life [41:30] . Most [41:31] boats we went [41:32] through this for [41:33] a while [41:33] , most boats in the [41:34] , in [41:35] the, in [41:35] the Puget Sound, which [41:35] is [41:37] a rough place to run a [41:39] boat. [41:40] Have a service life of about [41:40] 4 [41:40] years, but [41:41] it turns [41:42] out I [41:42] certainly didn't know this [41:44] , but [41:45] Rachel kind of gave us a [41:46] great [41:46] description of the history [41:47] of [41:47] this [41:48] , when the [41:48] boat was built [41:49] , [41:49] it [41:49] was built really [41:50] , really [41:51] well [41:51] . It's thicker [41:52] steel than [41:53] they'd [41:53] use today [41:53] , and [41:54] this [41:54] boat [41:54] we [41:55] all [41:55] felt comfortable [41:56] , [41:56] including [41:56] the [41:57] maritime people [41:57] on [41:58] the [41:58] tag that [41:59] this boat [42:00] really has [42:01] a 60-year service [42:01] life [42:01] . Better than most because [42:02] it was so well built to start [42:03] with [42:04] . But then you're going to [42:05] have to do something [42:07] , so in you [42:09] can't start the day of [42:10] the last [42:11] day of the [42:11] service life of the [42:12] boat [42:13] . So [42:13] let's [42:13] say in [42:15] 2035 [42:16] which [42:17] is [42:17] only what [42:18] 7 or [42:18] 8 years [42:18] from now [42:20] you're gonna have to [42:20] do something, you're [42:21] gonna [42:22] build another [42:22] uh [42:25] diesel-only [42:25] boat when [42:29] when the industry [42:30] says this [42:33] uh, 7 years from [42:33] now, [42:34] a lot [42:34] of these uh [42:36] maybe ifs [42:37] in [42:38] this quotes are going to be [42:39] gone. I think it's going to be [42:40] this is [42:40] the [42:40] way [42:42] . So [42:42] that's a [42:43] problem. Uh [42:45] , so either both [42:45] of [42:45] those options have [42:46] a flaw [42:47] . And [42:47] what [42:49] the [42:49] aha moment for us on [42:51] the [42:52] tag was what we ended up [42:52] calling [42:53] the [42:53] blended option [42:54] which is [42:55] if [42:56] you think about it [42:58] each of [42:58] those two options [42:59] solves the other's problem [43:02] So [43:02] if [43:03] the technology is not quite [43:05] mature enough now, you've got [43:05] to wait 5 years [43:06] . The [43:07] existing [43:07] boat gets you there [43:09] . If [43:09] we were [43:10] end of service right [43:11] now, what [43:11] would you do [43:13] ? 7 or 8 years from [43:14] now when you're when you're [43:14] doing the [43:16] final pen, you know, [43:17] pen to [43:18] paper on this is what [43:18] we're going [43:19] to do [43:25] . I lost my [43:26] thought there for a second, but [43:26] the, the, the [43:27] point [43:28] is that [43:29] what [43:29] then [43:30] becomes where the [43:30] industry [43:32] is going [43:32] with a [43:34] plug-in hybrid [43:35] . So our [43:36] final [43:36] conclusion is [43:39] maintain the [43:41] existing ferry. It's in good [43:41] shape [43:42] All [43:43] the [43:43] surveys say that [43:45] it costs some money. You've [43:46] always taken some big steps [43:47] in [43:48] that direction with the [43:48] new [43:50] engines. Uh, I [43:50] guess [43:50] the [43:51] outdrives [43:52] are on [43:52] the docket, [43:53] right? Rachel [43:54] , that's [43:54] it's [43:54] not [43:55] approved, but it's [43:56] talked about [43:57] certainly, right [44:01] ? I [44:01] should ask [44:02] you. I don't have an answer for [44:03] you on that [44:04] . Yeah. But that [44:04] would be a [44:05] major thing, but not [44:06] as big as the engines, right, [44:06] in terms of cost [44:10] . Up there [44:12] Yeah [44:13] you're [44:14] asking some pretty big [44:15] questions. Although, yeah, I, I [44:17] guess I kind of [44:17] , uh, I [44:17] remember [44:18] this discussion that [44:19] we [44:19] had [44:20] that it's not clear the out [44:20] drives [44:21] need replacement, right [44:22] ? [44:22] It [44:23] , the [44:24] answer is, I think [44:24] it [44:24] depends on [44:26] when the end of the [44:27] service life of the ferry [44:27] is [44:28] going to be [44:28] . Ok [44:29] , so the [44:30] point [44:31] is [44:31] , certainly you're not out in [44:32] the woods [44:32] . You've [44:33] got decisions [44:33] to make, but [44:34] the [44:35] point is [44:35] to [44:36] maintain [44:36] that ferry [44:38] to properly [44:40] till it's [44:40] end [44:42] of service, which [44:42] is 60 years [44:44] . And [44:44] by [44:44] that time [44:46] the technology not [44:48] being mature [44:49] enough yet, the [44:49] problem will [44:50] go [44:51] away. So [44:53] uh we're [44:55] saying [44:55] maintain the [44:56] existing boat for [44:56] the next [44:57] few years [44:58] . Properly [44:59] and [45:00] then start the design [45:01] of a [45:02] new plug-in hybrid the way we [45:03] described it [45:04] with [45:04] smaller [45:05] charging stations and so on [45:08] . [45:09] Something like 5 years [45:09] , maybe 6 [45:09] years from now [45:11] , something like [45:11] that, get that [45:11] process going [45:13] . [45:13] We figured it's probably, and I [45:14] think in [45:15] your experience, you [45:16] know, from when you say, hey [45:17] , [45:18] let's start thinking about it, [45:18] let's start doing something [45:19] about this [45:20] . It's probably 5 [45:20] years before [45:21] the boat's on [45:22] the [45:22] water [45:27] . There [45:27] are [45:27] some other [45:28] considerations [45:29] and these are [45:30] things that [45:31] we thought weren't [45:33] um [45:36] directly [45:37] . In [45:38] the path of [45:38] coming up [45:40] with a [45:40] single [45:41] recommendation for you all. Oh, [45:41] by the way [45:42] , I should have [45:43] mentioned this for sure [45:44] . This [45:44] , [45:45] I underline that [45:47] word unanimous [45:47] The [45:49] tag unanimously supported [45:50] the splendid option [45:51] . Before [45:52] that, when we had [45:52] the two [45:53] , [45:54] which solve each [45:54] other's [45:54] problem [45:55] . We [45:56] had some [45:56] debate [45:56] about that and we weren't [45:57] unanimous [45:58] , but [45:58] this [45:59] splendid [45:59] option was something [46:00] we all [46:01] supported [46:01] unanimously [46:03] . So [46:03] funding [46:04] is [46:05] always an issue [46:05] , of [46:05] course [46:07] , but I [46:07] just put this [46:08] here. There are [46:09] these [46:09] other [46:10] considerations [46:10] . These are all [46:11] of this is [46:12] more thoroughly [46:14] uh [46:14] spelled out in [46:16] the report. The [46:16] report is basically written, by [46:17] the way [46:18] . It needs [46:18] some [46:19] more [46:19] editing and some additions [46:20] here [46:21] and there [46:21] , but it's [46:21] pretty much [46:22] done [46:23] . So [46:23] , uh [46:25] this is all [46:26] fleshed out in the report [46:28] . Uh [46:30] There's a lot of stuff [46:31] happening in terms [46:32] of [46:32] reliability of the technology, [46:33] but I've [46:34] kind [46:34] of implied that a [46:36] lot [46:36] that though [46:37] it's changing [46:37] this [46:38] . Um [46:41] the kind of [46:41] futureproofing things that you [46:42] have [46:43] to do are going to be a [46:44] lot easier five years from now [46:44] than they [46:45] are today [46:46] . We already [46:48] mentioned [46:48] Coast Guard, what [46:48] does [46:50] , what does the [46:50] Coast Guard [46:51] allow and what it doesn't, [46:51] that's [46:52] in flux [46:53] The industry [46:53] seems to feel [46:54] the [46:54] Coast Guard's [46:55] behind the times [46:56] . It's the [46:57] industry is ahead of [46:57] the [46:58] Coast [46:59] Guard in [47:00] this area, but [47:01] again [47:01] , [47:02] 567 years from now, a [47:02] lot of [47:03] that will [47:04] be resolved [47:04] . And [47:05] then [47:05] there's a [47:06] very [47:06] key and [47:08] Alan [47:08] was [47:09] very uh uh [47:11] . Instrumental in [47:11] getting [47:12] us to [47:13] see this that [47:14] all [47:15] these things you're doing to [47:16] maintain the [47:17] existing boat, [47:17] let's say it has something to [47:18] do with the ramp or the [47:20] dolphins or something [47:21] like that [47:22] If [47:24] this is the direction you're [47:24] going to go [47:26] . What [47:26] you're [47:27] doing [47:28] today needs to be thought about [47:29] in terms of fitting with [47:30] where [47:31] you're going 5 or 6 years [47:32] from [47:33] now. So there's a [47:33] lot [47:35] of [47:35] futureproofing [47:36] basically every [47:38] project that you do on [47:39] the [47:39] existing boat [47:40] there [47:40] needs to be [47:42] a discussion as how does that [47:42] fit with our long range plan [47:44] ? [47:45] And so you don't find out [47:46] , you [47:47] got to pull up [47:49] . Something and [47:49] rework [47:50] it because [47:50] nobody [47:51] thought of that. Bris [47:52] is a [47:53] good [47:53] example might be if you're [47:54] going to rebuild [47:55] the ramps [47:55] , and [47:56] I can't remember if that's on [47:56] the [47:58] schedule or not, is [47:59] it [48:00] Rachel rebuilding the ramps [48:02] ? [48:02] The aprons, apron [48:04] . It's [48:05] on the, [48:05] it, it's [48:07] That's [48:08] what we [48:09] received the grant [48:09] funding for [48:10] , [48:11] and it's 5.8 [48:11] million, is that [48:12] right, Tom? It's for [48:13] the [48:13] electrical [48:14] and [48:16] hydraulic [48:16] replacement on [48:18] the bridges [48:18] as [48:18] well as [48:19] the replacement of [48:20] the [48:20] aprons [48:20] . So [48:21] that's. That's a [48:23] terrific project, but we're [48:23] , [48:24] we're saying is [48:25] when [48:25] you do [48:25] that [48:26] project [48:27] , have the meeting [48:27] , [48:27] have the discussions [48:29] about how [48:29] does this fit with our [48:30] long-range plan [48:32] . Uh [48:36] so [48:38] bottom [48:38] line [48:39] we're [48:40] recommending to you [48:41] what we're calling the [48:42] blended [48:43] option, which is maintain the [48:43] existing ferry [48:44] well [48:45] , leading to [48:45] a [48:46] plug-in hybrid with this [48:47] more [48:47] modest [48:47] charging [48:48] thing [48:49] , and [48:49] we [48:50] encourage you to [48:51] adopt [48:52] that [48:52] , [48:53] and one reason I think we [48:53] would [48:54] all [48:54] we [48:54] who live on Guaymas [48:56] Island, you [48:56] as commissioners [48:58] . [48:59] Public works [48:59] , ferry crew [49:00] . I [49:01] think we'd all be [49:02] very happy to [49:03] say we know where we're going [49:05] . [49:05] This is [49:06] our plan, and we [49:07] are [49:07] recommending to you that this [49:08] be your plan [49:10] . So [49:10] I guess that's [49:11] it [49:12] . Now you got questions, I'm [49:12] sure [49:14] . Just thank you very much [49:16] for the presentation. I don't [49:17] know if Allan [49:18] and [49:19] , uh, Ryan, do [49:19] you wanna [49:21] , um [49:23] , add anything to [49:23] it at all [49:23] ? I [49:24] mean, we [49:25] really do [49:25] appreciate all the time and [49:26] efforts put into it [49:29] . I [49:30] , I think [49:30] yeah, Sandy did [49:32] a great [49:32] job, um [49:32] I guess [49:34] some comments at the [49:34] , [49:35] uh, you really need to go to [49:35] the mic [49:36] get [49:37] him at home, be [49:37] able to hear it [49:39] . You might, you [49:39] might want to say more about [49:40] this. I think this [49:41] is the [49:42] key [49:43] operational [49:44] . Yeah um yeah [49:45] , [49:45] thank [49:46] you for [49:47] , uh, creating the [49:48] committee and I think we've had [49:48] some [49:50] really [49:50] great [49:51] discussions [49:51] and [49:52] um have all come to a [49:53] very [49:53] good [49:54] conclusion [49:54] here [49:55] Um [49:55] , as [49:56] Sandy said [49:56] , the [49:57] uh [49:59] the [50:00] information shared here [50:01] is uh [50:01] was [50:01] kind of [50:02] a [50:02] critical step for [50:02] a [50:03] lot [50:03] of [50:04] us to [50:04] realize that [50:06] an [50:06] all electric ferry would be a [50:08] challenge given the [50:09] infrastructure upgrades [50:10] , but [50:10] changes [50:11] to [50:12] charging [50:13] technology [50:13] using [50:14] the [50:15] current [50:16] infrastructure allowed [50:17] us to [50:18] , [50:18] uh, contribute [50:19] significantly to [50:22] emission reductions to put [50:22] things in perspective [50:23] , the [50:23] charger that [50:23] I put [50:24] as just [50:25] an [50:25] example is [50:26] about [50:26] 1/6 [50:27] the power [50:27] of [50:28] the [50:29] charging arm that [50:30] was [50:30] previously [50:31] considered [50:32] , so [50:33] that's [50:33] why it's [50:34] much [50:34] more [50:35] affordable and [50:36] reasonable and [50:36] feasible, I should [50:37] say [50:37] . Pugist [50:38] on Energy would like that more [50:38] too [50:39] because of the [50:40] load [50:40] . So [50:41] , um [50:42] and the tech [50:42] technology is well [50:44] established there [50:44] and continues [50:45] to evolve [50:47] and so yeah [50:49] , I think [50:50] uh several of us thought [50:50] that [50:50] you know [50:51] , in [50:51] 5 years [50:53] , if we go [50:53] out to bid [50:54] for this [50:55] new [50:55] ferry [50:56] and planned [50:56] to have [50:57] , you know, [50:58] again, depending on how long [50:59] it [51:00] takes to get the bids [51:00] out and [51:01] build [51:02] a boat 8 [51:03] to [51:03] 10 [51:04] years of [51:05] remaining life [51:05] for [51:06] the [51:07] current [51:08] ferry at would [51:09] be ideal [51:09] . The [51:10] technology will [51:10] advance [51:11] . We've [51:11] just repowered [51:12] the [51:12] current [51:12] ferry [51:14] , and so it [51:14] seems like [51:14] a [51:15] good timeline [51:16] , I think so [51:17] . And [51:18] I'm happy to answer any [51:18] questions about [51:20] the charging. [51:20] That was kind [51:22] of [51:22] my expertise [51:23] on the projects I've [51:24] worked on [51:25] recently, so happy [51:25] to answer [51:26] any questions there [51:27] . [51:28] Commissioner Browning, any [51:28] questions [51:29] on [51:30] that? No, actually [51:31] I really appreciate it. And, [51:32] you know, the difference [51:33] between your trucks and [51:33] the [51:34] ferry is you can pull over the [51:34] side of the road. We can't pull [51:35] over to [51:36] the side of the of the [51:36] ferry [51:37] , so, so [51:38] I really love the [51:38] the [51:39] , the [51:39] thinking behind this [51:40] . [51:40] It really is [51:41] nice and [51:41] , and I [51:42] did [51:43] not want to pull [51:43] away [51:43] from [51:44] electricity. I just [51:44] did not [51:45] want to go [51:45] fully [51:46] electric for [51:46] that [51:47] reason [51:47] . And so this has [51:48] really [51:49] helped [51:50] me [51:50] tremendously [51:51] listening to [51:51] all the options [51:52] you [51:52] have. I [51:53] really appreciate [51:53] the [51:54] expertise [51:54] we've brought [51:55] that was [51:55] brought together [51:56] , um [51:57] the [51:58] , um, technology with the [51:59] I [51:59] mean [52:01] yeah [52:01] , I love the, the [52:02] 10 [52:03] year [52:03] the [52:03] , the [52:05] 10 [52:05] years of kind [52:06] of grace while [52:07] we work towards [52:07] a [52:08] really good solution. It's [52:09] also [52:10] exactly what fits after [52:10] all the money we [52:12] just recently [52:12] put into it [52:12] going [52:13] to [52:14] run well [52:14] , [52:15] so everything you brought [52:16] today [52:17] is absolutely in line [52:18] with the, [52:19] how I've [52:19] been thinking [52:20] . I'm [52:21] not [52:21] smart enough to know all the [52:22] complexities [52:23] , but I still kind [52:23] of [52:24] heading the same direction [52:25] . [52:25] So I love it [52:26] . It's great. But [52:26] yeah [52:27] , thank [52:28] you. Thank [52:28] you for [52:29] all you bring to this because [52:29] that [52:30] really [52:30] is that that's [52:31] pretty much a game [52:32] changer when [52:32] you [52:33] realize [52:33] that [52:34] that arm [52:34] has [52:35] been really a problem [52:35] for [52:36] us [52:37] , [52:37] both financially [52:37] and [52:38] structurally [52:39] . At the time [52:41] when [52:41] Glaston did that, it made [52:43] sense [52:44] But that's the whole point here [52:44] The technology is [52:45] moving so [52:46] quickly [52:46] it probably [52:47] doesn't [52:48] make [52:48] sense anymore [52:48] . And [52:50] I think [52:50] even with the [52:51] changes in [52:51] technology, we need [52:52] the [52:53] redundancy that you brought [52:54] up [52:55] that is so important. We need [52:55] to have the [52:56] safety [52:57] valve [52:57] if if [52:58] one does not work [52:59] , if the to be [53:00] able to still get [53:01] to shore [53:02] , so [53:02] that [53:04] really is the big [53:04] difference in [53:04] all electric to [53:05] this, and [53:06] I'm real comfortable [53:06] with it [53:07] . Mr [53:08] . Burns [53:08] , any [53:09] questions on [53:09] ? First, thank [53:10] you [53:11] all for the effort you put [53:11] in [53:12] . [53:12] Um, sounds like [53:13] a well-rounded [53:13] group you [53:14] brought [53:15] together and [53:16] uh I appreciate the information [53:17] that [53:18] you presented to us. I do [53:19] have a few [53:19] questions on, uh, [53:20] first, the [53:21] charger. This took [53:22] roughly equivalent to [53:23] the [53:24] automotive [53:24] uh tier 3 [53:26] . Yeah [53:26] , it, [53:26] you know, a [53:27] lot of people think [53:28] of [53:29] Tesla chargers. The one I [53:29] use, this [53:29] is equivalent [53:30] to [53:31] the [53:31] highest powered [53:32] Tesla [53:33] superchargers. Ok [53:33] . Um [53:34] , so like [53:36] you wouldn't have this at most [53:36] , [53:36] even [53:37] retail outlets, because it [53:38] is pretty [53:38] high [53:40] powered, um, so [53:40] yeah, this has [53:42] a [53:42] 360 kilowatt [53:42] rating [53:44] , the charging arm is [53:45] 2 [53:45] megawatt, you know [53:46] , at your [53:47] home, you're [53:47] getting 2 [53:49] or [53:49] 3 [53:50] kilowatts, so [53:51] , um, it's [53:52] significant [53:53] , but [53:53] there's [53:54] many [53:55] manufacturers out there [53:56] , um, [53:56] there's [53:58] some discussion [53:58] of [53:58] going [53:59] up [53:59] to [54:00] 800 [54:00] kilowatts using [54:01] this [54:02] charging standard [54:03] . Um [54:03] , I [54:05] think the highest [54:05] powered [54:06] charger that you can buy [54:06] off [54:07] the shelf that I'm aware of [54:07] right [54:09] now [54:09] that uses [54:09] this [54:10] standard [54:11] as [54:11] 450 kilowatts. What [54:12] if [54:12] we did like [54:13] a multi-battery [54:14] bank and then had a [54:14] charger on [54:16] each side or [54:16] two chargers [54:16] and [54:17] that speed [54:18] up [54:18] charging [54:19] and [54:19] absolutely [54:20] yeah overheat [54:21] . Uh, [54:21] you [54:21] can use [54:22] the [54:23] battery [54:24] management systems to manage [54:24] all [54:24] of [54:25] that [54:26] , but [54:26] I think the [54:27] reason I [54:27] just selected [54:28] one [54:28] charger [54:28] for [54:29] these [54:30] graphs is [54:30] the [54:31] constraints [54:32] from [54:32] pse [54:33] , um, [54:33] didn't get a [54:34] chance [54:34] to discuss [54:35] with [54:36] pse what is [54:36] actually [54:37] available. Ok [54:37] . Um [54:38] , thinking [54:38] about the Anchor Cove [54:39] Marina [54:39] being right next [54:40] door and the [54:41] fact that I think [54:41] probably [54:42] every [54:43] birth that marina has [54:43] a [54:43] 30 [54:44] amp or [54:44] 50 [54:45] amp outlet [54:45] . [54:46] There's [54:46] probably [54:47] a reasonable [54:48] amount of energy [54:48] available [54:50] , um, [54:50] but you'd need to [54:51] have [54:51] extended [54:51] discussions [54:52] with pse [54:52] about [54:53] what's [54:53] available [54:54] , um, but I [54:55] think [54:55] that also [54:56] goes to [54:56] the [54:57] future [54:58] proofing [54:59] that if [54:59] electrical [55:00] service [55:00] was improved [55:01] in the [55:01] future [55:02] , you [55:02] add another [55:03] one [55:03] of [55:04] these [55:04] 360 [55:05] kilowatt [55:05] chargers [55:06] . You [55:06] could [55:06] run [55:07] almost [55:07] 100% electric a lot of [55:08] the [55:08] time [55:08] ok, what's [55:09] the maximum [55:10] cord [55:10] length on this? I'm thinking [55:11] about how [55:12] far away can [55:12] the boat [55:13] ? Yeah, it's a good question [55:14] . [55:14] Um [55:15] , the [55:16] , uh, so [55:17] there's [55:17] , [55:17] there's [55:18] different standards [55:18] . [55:19] There's all in [55:20] one [55:21] chargers [55:21] where from the [55:22] charging [55:22] unit [55:22] that's like [55:23] that [55:25] refrigerator-sized unit to [55:25] the [55:26] outlet on [55:27] the boat [55:27] would be [55:27] 2 [55:28] to [55:28] 3 [55:29] m, so it's got [55:29] to be [55:30] pretty close, like at the end [55:31] of the [55:31] ramp. Ok [55:32] . There's [55:33] others [55:33] where you [55:34] can have [55:34] the majority [55:35] of [55:37] the [55:38] electrical equipment in [55:39] other cabinets and that's just [55:39] a [55:41] smaller dispenser at the end [55:42] of [55:42] the ferry [55:43] or the [55:43] ferry [55:44] dock [55:44] that could have a [55:46] longer cable [55:46] , [55:46] so there are [55:47] limits to that [55:47] . It [55:48] just [55:48] depends [55:48] on [55:49] which [55:49] charging [55:49] system [55:50] you use [55:51] . Has anyone set [55:52] it up where it's actually [55:52] on [55:52] the [55:53] , the [55:53] I [55:55] don't know [55:55] about [55:55] moving [55:57] ramps [55:57] . Um [55:57] , I saw one [55:58] example. I think [55:59] it was [55:59] in [56:00] Turkey [56:00] , where they [56:01] actually [56:01] had [56:02] 20 of these [56:04] style [56:04] chargers [56:04] , all [56:05] on a [56:06] fixed [56:06] pier [56:07] so yeah [56:07] , the [56:08] moving pier makes it [56:09] a [56:09] challenge [56:09] , but [56:10] as I recall [56:12] , the [56:13] charger weighs somewhere [56:14] around [56:14] 2000 pounds [56:15] , so [56:16] it's [56:16] not [56:17] extremely heavy [56:17] . Yeah [56:18] . Um [56:18] , what [56:20] is the max drawdown on [56:20] these [56:20] batteries because I see [56:21] that [56:22] they're showing going under [56:24] 200 [56:25] kilowatt hours. I [56:26] wasn't sure [56:26] what the max [56:27] draw down before [56:27] you're causing problems [56:28] with [56:29] the battery. Yeah, no, that, [56:29] that's a great [56:31] question [56:31] . I [56:33] didn't really use that in [56:33] the [56:34] analysis because it's such [56:35] a [56:36] basic analysis [56:36] right here [56:36] . Um [56:38] , [56:39] ideally, you know [56:39] , for some [56:39] people who might [56:40] drive [56:40] electric [56:41] cars. Um-hum [56:41] . You [56:42] try to [56:42] use [56:43] a [56:44] daily operational range of 80 [56:45] to 20% [56:45] . So [56:46] you could [56:46] factor [56:47] that in and by sizing up [56:49] the [56:49] batteries a little bit. Um-hum. [56:50] To give you [56:51] more range [56:51] . Ok [56:51] . Um [56:53] I chose a [56:53] 1 [56:54] megawatt hour [56:55] battery or [56:56] 1000 kilowatt [56:57] hour [56:58] battery, um, because I think [56:59] that had been discussed in one [56:59] of [57:00] the [57:01] earlier reports [57:02] , um [57:03] but [57:03] the [57:05] , uh, energy density in [57:05] batteries is improving [57:07] , so what [57:07] I [57:10] 1000 kilowatt hour battery [57:10] MAY [57:11] have weighed 10 years ago [57:13] . [57:13] It's significantly reduced, so [57:14] you could size that [57:15] up [57:16] to [57:16] 1200 [57:17] kilowatt hours to give you a [57:17] little [57:18] more [57:18] flexibility [57:19] and [57:19] longevity [57:20] . Ok. Uh [57:21] , I can ask [57:21] more questions, but I'll stop [57:23] there and just thank you [57:23] for [57:23] the [57:24] review and [57:25] the analysis [57:25] of [57:25] this [57:25] . I [57:26] think that [57:27] the [57:27] recommendation put forward [57:28] makes a lot [57:29] of sense [57:29] . The [57:30] hybrid does give us lot [57:31] of [57:31] flexibility if there's ever [57:32] a [57:33] power problem, you know [57:33] , we [57:34] lose [57:34] power to [57:35] that station [57:35] . [57:35] It's very [57:36] easy to just kick on [57:37] the [57:37] diesel generators and run [57:38] it [57:39] , um, Commissioner Wheaton [57:40] was correct that [57:40] uh emission [57:41] standards have, have come a [57:42] long ways on these engines [57:42] , [57:43] although you can make them run [57:44] quite dirty. You [57:45] can also make [57:45] them very [57:45] clean [57:46] , uh, depending [57:46] on [57:47] the [57:47] emissions [57:48] outputs. You [57:48] you at Packard, I'm [57:49] sure you're [57:50] you're completely used to [57:51] dealing [57:51] with [57:52] those mission [57:52] systems as I [57:53] was where you [57:54] can [57:54] literally take the [57:55] exhaust [57:55] filters off and [57:56] wash them [57:57] . Um [57:57] , [57:58] and [57:59] , uh, helped capture quite a [57:59] bit of that carbon [58:00] that's [58:00] coming off [58:01] of it and [58:01] you really [58:02] just don't see [58:02] the same [58:03] type [58:03] of [58:03] mission [58:04] . So [58:04] , um, I'd [58:05] be [58:06] perfectly [58:06] comfortable with [58:07] , [58:07] with that type [58:07] of [58:08] propulsion [58:09] system being the backup [58:09] . And [58:10] making sure that we could keep [58:10] running it, especially [58:12] in [58:12] rough [58:12] seas where we're not [58:13] overloading the [58:14] boat [58:14] with [58:15] batteries to, you know [58:16] , weight [58:17] ratios and become an issue, I'm [58:17] sure at [58:18] some point [58:19] . So [58:19] , yeah [58:20] , [58:20] thank you [58:21] . Yeah. Yeah [58:21] , one [58:22] question I have on the [58:23] , the [58:24] batteries. I mean [58:24] , your [58:25] nice [58:26] graphs I I appreciate that, but [58:26] like [58:26] if you [58:27] had 3 [58:28] or [58:28] 4 [58:29] generators and when it [58:29] starts [58:30] getting down [58:30] , you just [58:30] kick one [58:31] on [58:31] . If you [58:32] still need more [58:32] , you [58:32] kick [58:33] the second [58:33] one [58:34] and maybe [58:34] the [58:34] 3rd [58:35] 1, so you're [58:37] just still [58:37] using [58:38] the battery [58:38] , but [58:39] you're [58:39] adding [58:40] the generator to [58:40] get [58:40] the [58:41] electricity on it, that's right [58:41] ? Yeah, that's [58:42] correct [58:42] . Yeah [58:43] , [58:43] yeah [58:44] Yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah, you [58:45] you, you know [58:46] , you'd [58:46] set [58:46] up [58:46] logic in [58:47] the [58:48] system [58:48] to say, ok [58:48] , [58:49] when we [58:49] get to [58:51] 40% and we have [58:52] whatever [58:53] , 12 [58:53] runs left in [58:53] the [58:54] day [58:55] . We're going to kick the [58:56] batteries on to make sure we [58:56] don't [58:57] drop [58:57] to 2% [58:58] , something [58:58] like [58:59] that, that can [58:59] all be [59:00] built into [59:00] the logic [59:01] and [59:02] on [59:02] the [59:03] redundancy, I understand, you [59:03] know, 2 [59:04] or [59:04] 3 [59:05] generators [59:05] , 4 [59:06] generators [59:06] there [59:06] , but [59:07] the [59:07] batteries [59:08] to redundancy [59:09] on that [59:10] they're complicated enough that [59:11] they [59:11] can figure out [59:11] what to do. [59:12] I mean, you [59:13] know more about [59:13] the [59:13] batteries [59:13] than I [59:14] do [59:14] , so yeah [59:15] , [59:15] I'm not [59:16] a battery [59:16] expert. I [59:16] I [59:17] have a little more [59:18] expertise on [59:18] the charging [59:19] side [59:20] , but there's [59:21] sale balance [59:21] balancing the [59:22] battery management system [59:23] . [59:24] Takes care of that in [59:24] the [59:25] software [59:26] , um, but [59:27] , uh, yeah [59:28] , [59:28] that's, it [59:29] is [59:29] quite [59:30] complex. [59:31] Yep, like you said [59:31] , the [59:32] technology keeps changing [59:33] , so [59:34] thank you very much for your [59:35] expertise to bring to the [59:36] committee. I [59:36] appreciate that [59:36] . [59:37] Thank you [59:38] . Allen, do you want [59:38] to comment [59:39] at [59:40] all or [59:44] Yes [59:45] , [59:45] thanks [59:46] for taking the [59:47] time [59:47] today to hear us [59:49] . Um [59:50] , I guess [59:50] the [59:51] main [59:51] thing would be [59:52] the [59:52] futureproofing [59:53] and [59:54] you [59:55] making [59:56] decisions regarding a new [59:56] ferry [59:56] if [59:58] we [59:58] are indeed [59:59] getting [1:00:00] a [1:00:01] new [1:00:01] bigger [1:00:02] homo cars [1:00:03] , more [1:00:03] people, [1:00:04] larger [1:00:05] . Um [1:00:05] we just [1:00:07] need to keep [1:00:07] in mind that it [1:00:08] is affecting [1:00:09] a [1:00:10] system [1:00:11] that [1:00:12] moves people to and [1:00:14] from Guimas and [1:00:15] that um if [1:00:15] we're gonna [1:00:18] . Discuss a parking [1:00:18] lot [1:00:20] that [1:00:21] accommodates, you know [1:00:23] 50% of what we [1:00:23] have now [1:00:25] We need [1:00:25] to keep that in [1:00:27] mind so that [1:00:27] we're not [1:00:28] designing things [1:00:29] on [1:00:30] the system that [1:00:30] won't [1:00:31] accommodate [1:00:32] a desire [1:00:34] or [1:00:34] a [1:00:34] plan [1:00:35] going forward. So [1:00:36] if we're [1:00:37] looking [1:00:38] at aprons [1:00:40] , um, doc [1:00:41] dolphins, all that type of [1:00:42] thing. We need to [1:00:43] make [1:00:43] sure [1:00:44] that with [1:00:44] our [1:00:45] current [1:00:46] proposal [1:00:47] here [1:00:48] or idea [1:00:48] that [1:00:49] we're [1:00:50] accommodating an [1:00:51] old [1:00:51] ferry [1:00:52] that's 40 [1:00:53] years [1:00:53] old and [1:00:54] that it [1:00:56] uh, anything we do to [1:00:58] the [1:00:58] system [1:00:59] is [1:00:59] uh open [1:01:00] to [1:01:00] change and [1:01:01] that [1:01:01] new ferry coming on [1:01:02] It [1:01:03] accommodates both at the same [1:01:04] time, so we're [1:01:05] not [1:01:06] obsoleting [1:01:06] our, our idea in [1:01:08] the [1:01:09] future or [1:01:09] um [1:01:10] um [1:01:11] taking anything away from [1:01:13] the current system, so if [1:01:14] sizes [1:01:15] and [1:01:16] shapes [1:01:16] and [1:01:17] and throughput [1:01:17] if we're [1:01:19] talking about a [1:01:19] schedule change [1:01:21] , reducing [1:01:22] uh [1:01:22] ferry service [1:01:23] , uh, that [1:01:24] kind of [1:01:25] goes against [1:01:25] a bigger [1:01:26] , larger [1:01:27] , [1:01:27] more [1:01:28] efficient [1:01:28] ferry [1:01:30] . I mean we [1:01:31] can [1:01:31] get into [1:01:32] fairs [1:01:33] even [1:01:33] if [1:01:35] we're experiencing [1:01:35] a [1:01:35] loss in [1:01:37] that growth of why we need a [1:01:38] bigger ferry or a [1:01:39] more [1:01:40] efficient ferry [1:01:41] , um, and we [1:01:42] don't have the [1:01:42] ridership [1:01:42] to [1:01:44] support it [1:01:44] . It [1:01:45] becomes [1:01:45] difficult to go out and [1:01:46] get [1:01:46] funding that [1:01:48] we're needing to [1:01:48] , [1:01:49] uh, you know [1:01:49] , funders and [1:01:50] saying [1:01:50] , hey, we [1:01:51] need [1:01:51] a [1:01:52] new [1:01:52] ferry [1:01:53] , and yet [1:01:54] we don't have [1:01:54] the [1:01:54] use [1:01:55] or [1:01:55] um we're doing [1:01:56] other [1:01:57] things within [1:01:57] the [1:01:58] system to [1:01:59] , uh [1:01:59] I [1:02:00] guess my marketing [1:02:01] . [1:02:01] Background [1:02:02] we've [1:02:02] got to sell [1:02:03] it [1:02:04] and so [1:02:05] uh we've got to keep all [1:02:07] those elements in mind on [1:02:07] the [1:02:07] system and make [1:02:08] sure [1:02:09] that we're [1:02:09] planning for the future [1:02:10] if this [1:02:11] is [1:02:11] the way [1:02:11] we're going to do it [1:02:12] because this is [1:02:13] an [1:02:13] expensive [1:02:14] endeavor, so [1:02:16] . Ok [1:02:17] , any questions [1:02:17] for Alan [1:02:24] ? I forgot to mention [1:02:25] one thing that I found useful [1:02:26] looking at this [1:02:27] graph again [1:02:28] . If [1:02:29] you [1:02:29] think about technology, you [1:02:30] have [1:02:31] some [1:02:31] good questions along [1:02:32] these lines [1:02:33] , you know, what [1:02:34] happens when the [1:02:35] battery [1:02:35] is [1:02:36] getting low and so on and [1:02:36] so [1:02:36] forth [1:02:38] . If you look at this [1:02:38] , [1:02:39] let's just look at this [1:02:40] top [1:02:40] graph [1:02:41] . Let's [1:02:42] say [1:02:43] batteries [1:02:43] have [1:02:43] 50% [1:02:44] more [1:02:45] capacity 4 years from [1:02:45] now [1:02:47] . Then what we'd be looking [1:02:47] at today [1:02:49] . If [1:02:49] you just take that [1:02:50] red line, well, I [1:02:51] guess it's [1:02:51] better to look at the [1:02:52] bottom [1:02:52] one and move [1:02:54] it up [1:02:54] . Let's [1:02:54] say [1:02:54] it's [1:02:55] got another [1:02:56] . 300 [1:02:56] or [1:02:58] 400 [1:02:58] kilowatt [1:03:00] The effect on [1:03:01] these [1:03:01] lines is that it [1:03:02] just moves [1:03:03] them up. In other words, toward [1:03:03] the end of the day [1:03:05] , if the [1:03:05] capacity of the [1:03:05] batteries [1:03:06] improved [1:03:07] enough in the next 3 [1:03:07] or 4 years [1:03:07] , it [1:03:08] would run out at [1:03:09] the end of the day [1:03:10] . So that's [1:03:10] one way to [1:03:12] look [1:03:13] at technology [1:03:15] for electrification with these [1:03:15] graphs [1:03:16] , that is, if [1:03:18] there is [1:03:19] more capacity in batteries [1:03:20] , [1:03:21] that red line just [1:03:21] goes up [1:03:21] . [1:03:22] Another [1:03:23] thing is if the [1:03:23] amount [1:03:25] of amps that you could push [1:03:26] down the [1:03:27] line to, to [1:03:28] charge, [1:03:28] that just means these [1:03:30] red lines [1:03:30] or [1:03:30] these [1:03:32] little jags that go [1:03:32] up [1:03:33] are [1:03:34] steeper. So you can kind [1:03:34] of [1:03:35] visualize [1:03:37] the effect of some of [1:03:37] these [1:03:38] technology changes by [1:03:39] just moving this graph up and [1:03:41] down or changing the slope of [1:03:41] some of the lines [1:03:43] . I [1:03:43] found that [1:03:43] helpful to [1:03:44] think about [1:03:45] the [1:03:46] impact of technology [1:03:46] . And [1:03:47] one [1:03:48] last comment I want to make is [1:03:48] I just want [1:03:50] to say [1:03:50] in all [1:03:52] of [1:03:52] our [1:03:53] meetings, I guess we had 8 [1:03:54] , [1:03:55] I think, um [1:03:56] you [1:03:56] know, your [1:03:57] people, we're there [1:03:58] . County [1:03:59] was [1:03:59] there. Rachel [1:03:59] was always there. [1:04:00] Marie [1:04:01] was there many [1:04:01] times [1:04:02] , and [1:04:04] other people helping us. I [1:04:04] just [1:04:04] want to [1:04:05] 0.1 thing out [1:04:06] cause [1:04:07] it's uh I think it's [1:04:07] very [1:04:08] important [1:04:08] . You're [1:04:09] getting [1:04:10] an [1:04:11] independent [1:04:12] citizen-based [1:04:13] recommendation here, and I [1:04:15] really compliment [1:04:15] especially [1:04:16] Rachel, that [1:04:17] no [1:04:18] , at no time [1:04:19] were redirected in [1:04:20] some [1:04:21] direction or [1:04:22] corrected [1:04:24] or [1:04:25] encouraged to take [1:04:25] a [1:04:26] particular [1:04:26] point of view. They were there [1:04:27] to help us [1:04:28] , to [1:04:28] give us [1:04:29] background, to [1:04:29] give [1:04:30] us [1:04:31] information, and I thought that [1:04:32] was very [1:04:33] I [1:04:33] took some discipline [1:04:34] I think [1:04:35] , because I, I'm sure [1:04:35] they all have their [1:04:37] own [1:04:37] ideas [1:04:38] , [1:04:38] but the [1:04:39] , the 9 [1:04:40] of us on [1:04:40] the [1:04:41] tag [1:04:42] This [1:04:42] is [1:04:42] our [1:04:43] thoughts without [1:04:44] having been influenced by [1:04:45] the [1:04:45] county [1:04:46] , and I [1:04:46] think [1:04:47] that's [1:04:47] important to point out [1:04:49] . Thank [1:04:49] you [1:04:50] . Anything else [1:04:51] ? Commission [1:04:51] Burns, any other thoughts on [1:04:52] this [1:04:53] ? Um [1:04:53] , just wanted to [1:04:53] ask [1:04:54] Rachel, if [1:04:55] we [1:04:55] could [1:04:55] contact pse [1:04:56] and just ask [1:04:56] them what [1:04:57] power is [1:04:58] available right now [1:04:58] in that [1:04:59] area [1:04:59] . I'd [1:05:00] appreciate [1:05:00] that [1:05:01] information [1:05:02] . Otherwise, uh, [1:05:03] that's all the questions I have [1:05:04] Thank you, Mr [1:05:04] . Browning, [1:05:05] anything [1:05:06] ? Well [1:05:06] , I've [1:05:06] never [1:05:07] wanted to be [1:05:07] the [1:05:08] person with [1:05:09] the [1:05:10] first electric boat out [1:05:11] there and [1:05:11] be [1:05:12] vulnerable [1:05:13] to [1:05:13] whatever could potentially go [1:05:14] wrong [1:05:14] . So this is [1:05:15] really [1:05:16] encouraging for me because I [1:05:17] don't want to be the head of [1:05:17] the [1:05:18] parade. I [1:05:18] think Scout [1:05:18] needs [1:05:18] to [1:05:19] be very smart [1:05:20] and sit back [1:05:20] and see [1:05:21] what's [1:05:21] working and [1:05:22] join [1:05:22] the people who [1:05:23] are [1:05:23] successful [1:05:24] rather than [1:05:25] be vulnerable [1:05:25] with [1:05:26] something. So [1:05:27] this is [1:05:27] very [1:05:28] comforting for me, so [1:05:28] thank you [1:05:29] And [1:05:30] you're lucky to have [1:05:31] this [1:05:32] well-built boat. It gets us [1:05:32] from here to [1:05:33] there [1:05:33] . You're [1:05:34] right. All right, once again, I [1:05:36] want to thank all the [1:05:36] committee [1:05:38] members and all the time and [1:05:39] effort put into this. I really [1:05:40] do appreciate that. I think it [1:05:41] goes to show [1:05:42] , um, you get [1:05:43] the [1:05:43] expertise and the knowledge [1:05:44] that [1:05:45] people want to put in time [1:05:45] you come up with the good [1:05:46] results, and so [1:05:47] I [1:05:47] really [1:05:48] appreciate what you guys were [1:05:48] able to come up with [1:05:49] here and [1:05:49] I [1:05:49] do [1:05:50] thank you for [1:05:50] all the time [1:05:51] and effort [1:05:52] bringing and [1:05:52] also [1:05:53] the support staff [1:05:53] had on [1:05:54] the [1:05:54] process [1:05:55] . I understand [1:05:56] it [1:05:56] definitely takes time [1:05:57] , but [1:05:57] I [1:05:57] think [1:05:58] the results here [1:05:59] are [1:06:00] very [1:06:01] um very [1:06:01] good. So [1:06:01] thank you for [1:06:02] all [1:06:02] the time and effort [1:06:05] . Rachel [1:06:05] anything else [1:06:07] ? Uh [1:06:08] , no [1:06:08] , we have [1:06:08] until [1:06:09] 10 [1:06:10] o'clock if there was [1:06:10] more discussion [1:06:11] , but [1:06:12] uh if [1:06:12] not [1:06:12] , [1:06:12] Marie [1:06:14] , did you have anything [1:06:15] else? I don't. I just want [1:06:16] to [1:06:16] thank you guys [1:06:16] for [1:06:17] coming [1:06:18] in [1:06:19] and [1:06:19] working [1:06:19] well [1:06:21] together and [1:06:21] coming up [1:06:22] with [1:06:22] this [1:06:22] recommendation [1:06:23] . It was a feat [1:06:23] . [1:06:24] But you [1:06:25] got there [1:06:27] I think [1:06:27] it [1:06:28] also goes to show that the [1:06:29] tag [1:06:30] group for a [1:06:30] specific [1:06:31] projects [1:06:32] that can work on a system to [1:06:33] have the good [1:06:34] people [1:06:34] volunteer [1:06:35] to do some come up with [1:06:36] some [1:06:37] good answers looking at [1:06:37] some [1:06:38] things outside [1:06:38] the [1:06:39] box [1:06:39] or [1:06:40] different options and so [1:06:40] forth. [1:06:41] So I [1:06:41] really [1:06:42] think [1:06:43] the members [1:06:43] and all [1:06:44] the different [1:06:44] people [1:06:44] put time in [1:06:45] it's really [1:06:46] important [1:06:48] . Any other questions [1:06:51] Well, with that, we [1:06:52] are going [1:06:52] to [1:06:53] adjourn until [1:06:54] 11 [1:06:54] o'clock [1:06:55] today we have [1:06:56] Public works back [1:06:57] in here. With that we're [1:06:58] adjourned. Thank you [1:07:12] , um, and [1:07:13] it's [1:07:15] , it's antiquated [1:07:15] , it's [1:07:16] ancient [1:07:16] barely keeps up in [1:07:17] the [1:07:18] springtime. Well, this spring [1:07:19] was the first time we [1:07:19] violated [1:07:20] our permit. Didn't [1:07:20] violate it [1:07:20] by much, but [1:07:21] enough to [1:07:23] to [1:07:23] uh uh [1:07:23] exceed [1:07:24] those [1:07:25] thresholds this [1:07:25] spring. So [1:07:27] , uh, every spring [1:07:28] this belt press can't keep [1:07:29] up [1:07:29] with it, just [1:07:29] a a [1:07:30] a little [1:07:31] bit [1:07:31] of very [1:07:32] labor intensive and [1:07:33] frequent maintenance [1:07:33] with [1:07:34] this [1:07:34] thing [1:07:35] . Um [1:07:36] it [1:07:36] has very [1:07:37] poor [1:07:37] performance [1:07:38] . It [1:07:38] , it [1:07:40] , it [1:07:40] produces about [1:07:41] or [1:07:41] reduces [1:07:42] uh uh [1:07:43] liquid stream by 8 to 12% [1:09:47] Sketch County commissions to [1:09:48] order [1:09:48] . It [1:09:48] is [1:09:49] JULY 7 [1:09:50] , 2026, a [1:09:51] little after 11 o'clock [1:09:51] in the [1:09:52] morning and we are here [1:09:52] with [1:09:52] Public [1:09:53] Works [1:09:53] and consider [1:09:54] testimony regarding [1:09:56] the sale [1:09:56] of [1:09:57] surplus property [1:09:58] , so [1:10:00] . I'm [1:10:00] gonna [1:10:01] let Tom [1:10:02] It's a [1:10:03] county engineer. [1:10:03] Good. Good morning, [1:10:03] commissioners [1:10:05] . Again [1:10:05] , this is [1:10:05] for [1:10:07] , um, surplus vehicles and [1:10:08] other [1:10:09] equipment and [1:10:09] , uh, we [1:10:10] scheduled this meeting, uh [1:10:11] for [1:10:12] a [1:10:12] public [1:10:12] hearing because [1:10:14] we've [1:10:14] got many [1:10:15] items here that [1:10:16] are [1:10:16] valued greater [1:10:16] than [1:10:18] $2500 and [1:10:19] then we've also [1:10:19] got some uh [1:10:21] Newark County policy [1:10:22] with [1:10:23] regards to [1:10:23] when [1:10:23] we [1:10:24] um send [1:10:25] vehicles to [1:10:26] auction [1:10:26] when we [1:10:26] put [1:10:28] them [1:10:28] on [1:10:29] um maintenance and um [1:10:32] m&o operation and so [1:10:33] , uh, [1:10:33] without further ado [1:10:34] , I [1:10:34] will [1:10:35] kick [1:10:35] things over [1:10:36] to [1:10:36] Jason to go [1:10:37] through the [1:10:37] details of what [1:10:39] we're proposing to auction this [1:10:39] fall [1:10:41] . All right. Good afternoon [1:10:41] commissioners [1:10:43] . I'm [1:10:43] Jason [1:10:43] Bleddgood [1:10:44] . I'm representing [1:10:45] the [1:10:46] equipment division of Skagia [1:10:46] County [1:10:47] Public [1:10:48] Works [1:10:48] . This is [1:10:49] the public [1:10:50] hearing to [1:10:50] allow [1:10:50] Sedget County [1:10:51] to surplus [1:10:52] the [1:10:52] items that you [1:10:53] see listed in [1:10:54] your packet as [1:10:54] well as [1:10:55] on [1:10:55] the [1:10:56] screen. All [1:10:56] the [1:10:57] vehicles [1:10:57] and [1:10:58] equipment on this [1:10:58] list that [1:10:59] you [1:11:00] have today reached the end of [1:11:00] their [1:11:01] useful [1:11:01] lives and [1:11:02] have [1:11:03] been replaced or are [1:11:03] no [1:11:03] longer [1:11:04] needed [1:11:04] . Some [1:11:04] of [1:11:05] the [1:11:06] items [1:11:06] have [1:11:07] reached the end of [1:11:08] even [1:11:08] two [1:11:09] lives [1:11:10] . Each year [1:11:10] during the [1:11:11] budget process [1:11:11] , we [1:11:12] request to [1:11:13] replace vehicles [1:11:13] and equipment [1:11:14] based on [1:11:15] a combination of [1:11:16] the [1:11:17] following factors [1:11:18] , um, you'll [1:11:18] see [1:11:19] some are [1:11:20] , uh, 6 years [1:11:20] for a [1:11:21] share [1:11:21] of vehicles [1:11:22] , 10 years for [1:11:24] our passenger cars [1:11:25] and 20 years [1:11:25] for [1:11:26] our [1:11:26] heavy equipment [1:11:27] . When [1:11:27] we get [1:11:28] close to that [1:11:29] original [1:11:29] assigned replacement [1:11:30] year [1:11:31] , we [1:11:31] evaluate each [1:11:32] vehicle [1:11:33] , um, the [1:11:33] last couple of years we've [1:11:34] really taken [1:11:35] a good look [1:11:35] at [1:11:36] mileage and seeing if we [1:11:37] can [1:11:37] push some of [1:11:38] those [1:11:38] , even 10 [1:11:39] years [1:11:40] for [1:11:40] passenger [1:11:40] cars [1:11:41] to 12 [1:11:42] or [1:11:42] so [1:11:42] and [1:11:43] 8 on [1:11:43] sheriff vehicles [1:11:46] After evaluating each unit, we [1:11:47] determine if it makes [1:11:48] the [1:11:48] most [1:11:49] sense to replace it [1:11:49] or keep [1:11:50] for [1:11:51] additional years of service. In [1:11:52] some cases [1:11:53] we keep [1:11:53] the unit [1:11:53] for [1:11:54] several more years [1:11:56] . If [1:11:57] we do [1:11:58] replace it and no [1:11:58] longer have a [1:11:58] need for it [1:12:00] , we will go through [1:12:00] the surplus [1:12:02] process [1:12:02] also [1:12:02] , um, [1:12:03] after the [1:12:04] public hearing, [1:12:04] you'll [1:12:05] see [1:12:05] a resolution be [1:12:06] routed [1:12:07] , our [1:12:07] surplus will [1:12:07] be [1:12:08] sold at [1:12:09] the James [1:12:09] g [1:12:10] . Murphy [1:12:10] auction [1:12:11] in Marysville [1:12:12] . Um [1:12:12] , it [1:12:12] starts at 10 [1:12:13] o'clock OCTOBER [1:12:14] 1st and ends [1:12:15] at 10:00 [1:12:16] A.M. [1:12:16] OCTOBER 8th [1:12:17] . The [1:12:18] Murphy Company [1:12:18] will [1:12:19] have a hold [1:12:20] , a preview [1:12:20] in [1:12:22] person starting at 8 [1:12:22] to [1:12:23] 4 [1:12:23] OCTOBER [1:12:24] 6th [1:12:24] and [1:12:25] 7th, and you [1:12:26] can also [1:12:27] , and all [1:12:27] the [1:12:27] auction [1:12:28] items will be [1:12:28] done online [1:12:31] . Um [1:12:31] , [1:12:32] you'll see it in members of the [1:12:32] public are [1:12:33] welcome to call me [1:12:34] and ask [1:12:34] questions [1:12:35] , um, about [1:12:36] any of the equipment [1:12:40] . I'll [1:12:40] make [1:12:40] a note [1:12:41] , you'll see [1:12:42] we do [1:12:42] have a [1:12:43] couple of [1:12:43] vehicles [1:12:44] under [1:12:46] 100,000 miles um two of [1:12:47] those [1:12:48] are snowplow vehicles [1:12:48] that are, [1:12:48] uh [1:12:49] , pretty [1:12:50] , pretty rough shape [1:12:50] from [1:12:51] the salt and all [1:12:52] the [1:12:52] chemicals [1:12:53] , and [1:12:54] then you'll see [1:12:55] , [1:12:56] um, 2010 [1:12:56] and [1:12:57] 2065 [1:12:57] , uh, those [1:12:58] are [1:12:59] actually turned in [1:12:59] as [1:12:59] departments [1:13:00] do their budget. [1:13:01] They need to reduce [1:13:02] their fleet [1:13:03] and then [1:13:03] they decided they no [1:13:04] longer needed those [1:13:08] . Um, but [1:13:09] that [1:13:10] you guys have [1:13:10] any [1:13:10] questions [1:13:12] ? MR. Burns [1:13:12] , any [1:13:12] questions [1:13:14] ? No [1:13:16] , overall, this [1:13:17] makes sense to me. Look at the [1:13:17] mileage. I mean [1:13:19] , the [1:13:20] interceptors have tons of [1:13:20] idle [1:13:21] hours on them. I'm going to [1:13:21] guess [1:13:23] the f550s [1:13:23] are [1:13:23] probably [1:13:24] somewhere in the same boat plus [1:13:25] just time [1:13:25] of [1:13:26] sitting. Yeah [1:13:26] , [1:13:27] really, yeah [1:13:27] , pretty [1:13:28] in the [1:13:29] sand and salt and [1:13:30] the chemicals [1:13:30] is [1:13:31] what kills [1:13:31] them [1:13:31] mostly [1:13:32] . Ok. [1:13:32] Uh [1:13:32] , we've done [1:13:33] a pretty [1:13:33] good [1:13:33] job [1:13:34] last year or [1:13:34] 2 years ago [1:13:34] , [1:13:35] we started [1:13:35] a new [1:13:37] , uh, process [1:13:38] after a snow [1:13:38] season [1:13:39] of cleaning [1:13:40] and [1:13:40] , and that seems [1:13:41] to really [1:13:41] be [1:13:41] helping [1:13:42] our chassis [1:13:43] and [1:13:44] undercarriage. Ok. Well [1:13:44] , good, [1:13:44] good [1:13:45] . I'm [1:13:45] , uh, I'm [1:13:46] glad that's [1:13:46] going to help uh, extend the [1:13:47] life of [1:13:47] the vehicles, but now [1:13:48] these all make sense to me [1:13:49] . [1:13:49] Thank you [1:13:50] . Mr [1:13:50] . Browning, any [1:13:51] questions [1:13:52] ? No [1:13:52] , but I appreciate [1:13:53] your, your [1:13:54] looking [1:13:54] at [1:13:55] the [1:13:55] appropriate use and [1:13:56] not just [1:13:58] just years and miles [1:13:59] , but kind [1:13:59] of [1:14:00] a combination and [1:14:01] I'm trying [1:14:01] to [1:14:01] visualize [1:14:02] a [1:14:03] 2011 [1:14:04] 550 Ford [1:14:04] , [1:14:04] but [1:14:06] it's [1:14:06] those [1:14:06] snowplow trucks. [1:14:07] Yeah [1:14:08] . Yeah, yeah, the [1:14:08] the yeah, [1:14:09] they're [1:14:10] , they're [1:14:10] , they've [1:14:11] been [1:14:11] pretty, pretty [1:14:11] rough shape [1:14:12] , [1:14:12] yeah [1:14:13] , yeah. Hate to have one of [1:14:15] their wheels fall [1:14:17] off [1:14:20] . Yeah, [1:14:20] but [1:14:22] Any [1:14:22] other [1:14:24] questions? No [1:14:24] . Um [1:14:25] thank you [1:14:26] very much for [1:14:27] bringing me through and going [1:14:27] through and [1:14:28] evaluating and just [1:14:29] like you [1:14:29] did mention all [1:14:30] of [1:14:31] these have already been [1:14:31] replaced or chosen [1:14:32] not [1:14:33] to [1:14:33] replace [1:14:33] them, correct [1:14:35] ? And the [1:14:35] way our [1:14:35] enr [1:14:36] works is [1:14:37] the [1:14:38] department that uses them [1:14:40] when [1:14:40] replacement [1:14:41] vehicle [1:14:42] comes in, [1:14:42] then you start [1:14:42] , we [1:14:44] start [1:14:44] taking [1:14:44] money out of [1:14:45] their [1:14:45] department [1:14:47] yearly operation to buy [1:14:47] a [1:14:48] new [1:14:49] vehicle when this [1:14:49] one wears [1:14:49] out [1:14:51] is this [1:14:51] , but then there are [1:14:52] some we just go on the [1:14:53] maintenance and operation [1:14:55] which [1:14:56] are [1:14:56] generally for [1:14:57] local [1:14:57] use [1:14:58] for [1:14:58] different departments. Yep, yep [1:15:00] and as budget times are coming [1:15:01] with [1:15:02] a lot of [1:15:02] people are [1:15:03] realizing they [1:15:04] , well [1:15:04] , obviously [1:15:05] a [1:15:05] 2010 [1:15:07] with 55,000 miles on it [1:15:08] probably wasn't [1:15:09] needed, so [1:15:09] that's why we got rid [1:15:10] of [1:15:10] that [1:15:10] one [1:15:11] . Yeah [1:15:11] , but that's [1:15:12] the [1:15:12] departments making those [1:15:13] choices [1:15:14] . You're [1:15:14] just [1:15:14] running [1:15:16] the [1:15:16] rental [1:15:17] fleet because [1:15:18] you're [1:15:18] doing [1:15:18] , so [1:15:18] . Yeah [1:15:19] . That's all the [1:15:20] questions [1:15:20] I have. So [1:15:21] this is [1:15:22] a [1:15:23] public hearing on [1:15:24] the [1:15:25] disposition of these [1:15:27] . Um [1:15:28] vehicles for [1:15:29] um surplus. Is [1:15:30] there anybody from the [1:15:31] public [1:15:32] like to comment on those [1:15:34] ? [1:15:34] Anybody from [1:15:36] the public like to [1:15:36] comment on the surplus of these [1:15:37] vehicles [1:15:40] . Do you [1:15:40] have anybody [1:15:41] online [1:15:42] Yes, but [1:15:42] I think they're [1:15:43] here for the [1:15:43] 11:30 [1:15:44] . Ok [1:15:49] . Any [1:15:50] other questions? Any other [1:15:50] comments [1:15:52] ? We [1:15:54] must have a motion [1:15:55] here somewhere, don't we? I [1:15:55] like [1:15:56] to move that we close the [1:15:57] public hearing. I'll [1:15:58] second [1:15:58] that [1:15:59] . Let's move a second to [1:15:59] close the [1:16:00] public [1:16:01] hearing on [1:16:01] the [1:16:01] surplus [1:16:03] of [1:16:04] these vehicles [1:16:05] . Any [1:16:05] more discussion [1:16:07] ? All those [1:16:07] in [1:16:08] favor say [1:16:08] aye [1:16:09] , aye [1:16:09] , o [1:16:10] pose [1:16:10] , [1:16:11] motion passes [1:16:14] . So the next step [1:16:15] is you will bring [1:16:16] something [1:16:17] through um for [1:16:18] the [1:16:19] consent to [1:16:19] sign and move them [1:16:21] forward, so [1:16:22] . [1:16:23] All right, thank you, [1:16:24] commissioners. Thank you, Jason [1:16:26] Anything else [1:16:28] So with that, [1:16:28] we're going to adjourn. We're [1:16:28] back [1:16:30] in session at [1:16:30] 11:30 for [1:16:30] our [1:16:32] public comment with that we [1:16:33] adjourn. Thank you [1:16:46] that's [1:16:46] why all [1:16:47] the senior centers [1:16:48] , the [1:16:49] contracts had to be read [1:16:51] . [1:16:51] Redone because we changed them [1:16:52] . [1:17:26] It's a little [1:17:27] after [1:17:27] 11:30 [1:17:27] on [1:17:27] morning. I call [1:17:28] this [1:17:28] sessionsketch County [1:17:29] commissions to order [1:17:29] . It [1:17:30] lie [1:17:30] 7th [1:17:31] , 2026 [1:17:32] . I'll [1:17:32] read our [1:17:33] script [1:17:33] here for the [1:17:34] public comment. [1:17:35] Thank you for all [1:17:35] attending [1:17:37] the [1:17:37] commissioner's Public comic [1:17:38] meeting. We [1:17:39] discovered [1:17:39] these [1:17:41] televised sessions almost every [1:17:41] week as [1:17:41] our [1:17:42] schedule allows to [1:17:43] provide public [1:17:43] with [1:17:44] frequent [1:17:45] opportunities to share [1:17:46] feedback [1:17:46] and [1:17:47] concerns [1:17:47] about [1:17:48] any county [1:17:48] program [1:17:48] or [1:17:49] service [1:17:50] . Each [1:17:50] speaker has [1:17:51] 3 minutes [1:17:52] to speak [1:17:53] and you will hear [1:17:53] a [1:17:53] time ring [1:17:55] at [1:17:55] 2 minutes and a [1:17:57] 1-minute [1:17:57] warning and then again at [1:17:58] 3 [1:17:58] minutes [1:17:59] when your time [1:18:00] has [1:18:00] expired, we [1:18:00] ask you to [1:18:02] direct [1:18:03] all comments to the board of [1:18:04] County commissioner and to keep [1:18:04] your [1:18:04] language appropriate [1:18:05] and [1:18:05] civil [1:18:07] . Please understand [1:18:08] that [1:18:09] this time is to take [1:18:09] feedback [1:18:09] from the public and [1:18:10] the [1:18:11] commissioners will not be [1:18:11] responding to comments at [1:18:13] this [1:18:13] time [1:18:14] , written comments [1:18:15] or [1:18:15] follow up inquiries [1:18:15] can [1:18:16] be [1:18:16] submitted to our [1:18:17] office [1:18:17] by [1:18:18] email [1:18:18] at [1:18:23] commissioners@co.Skche.Wa.S or [1:18:24] by mail [1:18:24] at [1:18:25] 1800 Continental [1:18:25] Place, Mount Vernon [1:18:26] , Washington [1:18:28] 98273 [1:18:29] . We [1:18:29] generally appreciate [1:18:30] the time [1:18:30] you [1:18:31] all have [1:18:31] taken [1:18:31] to [1:18:32] attend [1:18:32] today's meeting [1:18:33] , and [1:18:33] we're looking forward to [1:18:34] hearing [1:18:35] your comments [1:18:35] . We will [1:18:36] first start [1:18:36] with attendees [1:18:38] um [1:18:38] online via Zoom and then moved [1:18:40] to attendees in [1:18:40] the room [1:18:40] . So [1:18:41] first [1:18:42] , if there's anybody [1:18:43] who [1:18:43] wants [1:18:44] not talk, let's do [1:18:45] the [1:18:45] northern state [1:18:47] Swift [1:18:47] Center [1:18:47] last [1:18:48] was anybody online that [1:18:49] would like [1:18:49] to [1:18:50] talk about [1:18:51] a [1:18:52] subject not [1:18:52] with Northern state [1:18:54] Tweety, I [1:18:55] see you there [1:18:58] I [1:18:58] am [1:18:58] here. Uh [1:19:00] , thank you [1:19:00] , [1:19:01] commissioners. Good morning [1:19:02] , [1:19:02] commissioners [1:19:03] . Larita Humboldt [1:19:03] , [1:19:03] aka Tweety [1:19:05] , Lake Kavanaugh [1:19:05] . [1:19:06] Regarding [1:19:07] North Shore, I [1:19:07] have [1:19:08] previously [1:19:09] reported that after [1:19:10] many trials [1:19:10] and tribulations [1:19:11] , [1:19:11] the [1:19:12] garbage cans [1:19:12] for North [1:19:13] Shore residents [1:19:14] are stationed [1:19:15] at adjoining Side [1:19:17] Street [1:19:17] locations at [1:19:18] each [1:19:18] end and [1:19:18] as [1:19:19] much [1:19:19] as [1:19:19] 2 miles [1:19:20] from [1:19:21] customer [1:19:21] homes [1:19:22] . These locations [1:19:22] were [1:19:23] chosen by [1:19:24] waste [1:19:24] management [1:19:25] as [1:19:25] being in [1:19:25] an area [1:19:26] where there [1:19:26] is [1:19:27] room [1:19:27] for the [1:19:28] waste [1:19:28] management [1:19:28] truck to dump [1:19:29] the cans and [1:19:29] turn [1:19:30] around [1:19:30] . In addition to these [1:19:31] cans not near [1:19:32] the [1:19:32] residents' [1:19:33] homes it [1:19:33] affords [1:19:34] the constant [1:19:35] opportunity of being [1:19:36] filled [1:19:36] by [1:19:37] someone other than [1:19:37] those paying [1:19:38] for [1:19:39] the service. That [1:19:40] being [1:19:40] said [1:19:41] , a more [1:19:42] interesting story [1:19:43] is that [1:19:43] we've had [1:19:43] a [1:19:44] resident [1:19:46] bear [1:19:47] since February [1:19:47] that has [1:19:48] been [1:19:48] circulating [1:19:49] circulating [1:19:49] circling [1:19:50] the lake [1:19:51] looking [1:19:51] for [1:19:52] food. Now [1:19:52] that so [1:19:52] many [1:19:53] residents [1:19:54] have returned for [1:19:54] the [1:19:55] season [1:19:55] , those [1:19:55] garbage [1:19:56] cans are [1:19:56] filled [1:19:57] with lots [1:19:57] of [1:19:58] delicious [1:19:58] snacks for [1:19:58] Yogi [1:19:59] . Imagine the [1:20:00] surprise of one [1:20:01] single [1:20:01] senior [1:20:02] lady attempting to put [1:20:03] her [1:20:03] trash in [1:20:04] her can [1:20:04] at [1:20:05] the [1:20:05] staged [1:20:06] area [1:20:06] and surprised by [1:20:07] Yogi [1:20:08] overturning the cans [1:20:08] and [1:20:09] enjoying [1:20:10] his [1:20:10] lunch [1:20:11] once again [1:20:11] , [1:20:11] just [1:20:12] another [1:20:12] safety [1:20:13] concern [1:20:13] and [1:20:13] reason [1:20:14] for North [1:20:15] Shore to [1:20:15] be [1:20:16] restored so [1:20:17] that residents [1:20:17] can [1:20:17] keep [1:20:17] their [1:20:18] garbage [1:20:18] can at [1:20:19] their [1:20:19] own home [1:20:20] and in [1:20:20] the [1:20:22] garage [1:20:22] as [1:20:22] opposed [1:20:23] to providing [1:20:23] the [1:20:23] buffet [1:20:24] for [1:20:25] yogi. Can [1:20:25] you [1:20:26] all consider [1:20:27] the danger that [1:20:27] North [1:20:27] Shore [1:20:28] residents [1:20:28] are enduring [1:20:29] . Is [1:20:29] it [1:20:30] just ok because it's our lives [1:20:31] in [1:20:31] danger and it's [1:20:32] not in [1:20:33] your [1:20:33] backyard [1:20:33] , and yes [1:20:35] , dfw [1:20:35] is [1:20:36] called and there is a trap [1:20:37] , but [1:20:37] I have no [1:20:38] knowledge as to [1:20:39] whether Yogi the Bear [1:20:39] has [1:20:40] been [1:20:40] captured [1:20:41] yet [1:20:42] . Please [1:20:42] restore [1:20:43] North Shore so that we [1:20:44] are able [1:20:44] to [1:20:45] live [1:20:46] peaceful and [1:20:46] normal [1:20:47] lives. On [1:20:47] a [1:20:48] different note [1:20:48] , if [1:20:49] you have the [1:20:49] time [1:20:50] , I [1:20:50] cordially [1:20:51] invite you to [1:20:51] the [1:20:52] Lake Kavanagh [1:20:52] car [1:20:53] show this [1:20:53] Saturday [1:20:54] , the [1:20:54] 11th [1:20:55] from 11 to [1:20:56] 2 at [1:20:56] the [1:20:57] community center [1:20:57] . Thank you [1:20:58] for [1:20:58] your time [1:20:59] . Thank you [1:21:00] Is [1:21:00] there [1:21:00] anybody else online you'd [1:21:01] like [1:21:02] to comment, not [1:21:02] dealing [1:21:04] with [1:21:04] the Northern state property [1:21:07] . [1:21:07] Hearing none [1:21:08] . Is [1:21:08] there anybody [1:21:09] in room? I would like to [1:21:11] comment on something [1:21:11] besides [1:21:11] the Northern [1:21:13] state [1:21:13] property [1:21:15] . Go [1:21:16] ahead [1:21:18] . Good [1:21:18] morning. This is [1:21:20] Elka McCartney [1:21:20] , Anacortes. Uh, [1:21:20] this is [1:21:22] comment [1:21:23] number [1:21:24] 26 to [1:21:24] stop [1:21:25] the installation [1:21:25] of [1:21:27] battery energy [1:21:27] storage [1:21:27] systems. [1:21:28] Uh, one of [1:21:28] the [1:21:29] most [1:21:29] horrendous [1:21:30] developments [1:21:31] in [1:21:31] this [1:21:31] country [1:21:32] since sometime in [1:21:33] the [1:21:33] 90s [1:21:34] , is [1:21:35] the [1:21:35] complete lack [1:21:36] of [1:21:36] accountability [1:21:37] and liability [1:21:38] of [1:21:38] huge [1:21:40] mega companies [1:21:41] that [1:21:41] manufacture [1:21:42] harmful poisons [1:21:43] and [1:21:43] products [1:21:45] . These companies [1:21:45] dole [1:21:45] out [1:21:46] billions of [1:21:46] dollars [1:21:47] in [1:21:47] settlements to people who [1:21:48] suffer [1:21:49] ill effects and death [1:21:49] from [1:21:50] so-called medicines [1:21:51] that [1:21:51] injured and [1:21:52] killed people or [1:21:53] poisons like [1:21:54] glyphosate [1:21:55] , which [1:21:56] bear [1:21:56] Monsanto [1:21:56] had [1:21:57] recently [1:21:58] agreed to [1:21:58] shell [1:21:59] out [1:22:00] $11 billion [1:22:00] worth [1:22:01] of lawsuits [1:22:03] , but now [1:22:03] , [1:22:03] since [1:22:03] this [1:22:04] recent [1:22:05] Supreme Court [1:22:05] deemed [1:22:05] that [1:22:06] glyphosate can [1:22:06] be [1:22:06] used [1:22:07] with impunity [1:22:08] and [1:22:08] ruin [1:22:09] people's health [1:22:10] and lives [1:22:10] without [1:22:11] getting [1:22:12] sued [1:22:12] . All bets [1:22:13] are off [1:22:14] to [1:22:14] hold [1:22:14] companies [1:22:15] accountable for all kinds of [1:22:16] things that do [1:22:16] us harm [1:22:18] , for [1:22:18] instance [1:22:19] , the [1:22:20] so-called [1:22:20] green [1:22:21] companies that [1:22:21] install [1:22:22] these [1:22:23] horrific, full [1:22:23] of toxic [1:22:24] and [1:22:25] flammable [1:22:26] chemical chemicals [1:22:27] best units [1:22:28] . There [1:22:28] is [1:22:28] no [1:22:30] accountability for the damage [1:22:30] they [1:22:31] will [1:22:31] do [1:22:32] , not [1:22:32] even [1:22:32] after [1:22:33] severe damage [1:22:34] is done [1:22:35] . And let [1:22:35] me remind [1:22:36] you [1:22:36] that [1:22:36] corporate [1:22:37] sponsored [1:22:38] environmental impact [1:22:39] studies by companies such [1:22:40] as [1:22:41] Nextera or Jupiter [1:22:41] or [1:22:43] whatever [1:22:43] , [1:22:43] are [1:22:43] highly [1:22:44] skewed [1:22:45] and [1:22:46] manipulated. These [1:22:46] include [1:22:48] noise [1:22:48] studies if [1:22:48] there [1:22:49] are any [1:22:49] , [1:22:50] and [1:22:50] recall that [1:22:51] in one of [1:22:51] my [1:22:51] comments it [1:22:52] was determined [1:22:53] by [1:22:53] Nex era [1:22:54] that we [1:22:54] do not [1:22:55] have [1:22:55] any [1:22:56] birds [1:22:56] to [1:22:56] worry [1:22:57] about here in [1:22:57] the [1:22:59] Skcache County [1:22:59] . No [1:23:00] problem [1:23:00] installing [1:23:01] something that [1:23:01] can [1:23:01] burst [1:23:02] into [1:23:02] difficult [1:23:03] to [1:23:05] extinguish fires with to x [1:23:05] ic [1:23:06] smoke that will spread for [1:23:06] miles and damage [1:23:07] our [1:23:08] environment, kill birds [1:23:09] , salmon [1:23:10] other wildlife [1:23:11] that apparently [1:23:11] we shouldn't [1:23:12] care about [1:23:13] . It's [1:23:13] disgusting [1:23:14] . Greed [1:23:15] That's [1:23:16] the [1:23:17] word for all [1:23:17] of [1:23:19] this [1:23:19] non-accountability, and it is [1:23:20] what you need [1:23:21] to consider as [1:23:22] you consider [1:23:22] and [1:23:24] reconsider the [1:23:24] installation [1:23:24] of [1:23:26] lithium battery [1:23:26] energy storage [1:23:27] systems [1:23:28] and [1:23:28] data [1:23:29] centers in [1:23:29] our [1:23:29] beautiful county [1:23:31] We had an earthquake near my [1:23:31] home [1:23:32] the other night [1:23:33] . I felt it [1:23:33] while in my [1:23:35] easy chair reading, [1:23:35] and I [1:23:35] thought [1:23:36] to [1:23:37] myself [1:23:38] , holy [1:23:38] cow [1:23:39] ! Best units [1:23:40] can go [1:23:40] into [1:23:42] geothermal runaway [1:23:42] fires [1:23:44] from [1:23:45] jostling or many [1:23:45] other [1:23:46] reasons [1:23:46] such [1:23:47] as overheating [1:23:47] . Please [1:23:48] take [1:23:48] this [1:23:49] into [1:23:50] consideration [1:23:50] , [1:23:50] especially [1:23:51] the [1:23:52] non-accountability of [1:23:53] these [1:23:53] companies [1:23:54] . There is [1:23:54] no [1:23:55] recourse [1:23:56] for [1:23:56] evacuation [1:23:57] plans in case [1:23:57] of [1:23:58] a fire [1:23:59] . There is [1:24:00] no recourse [1:24:00] for [1:24:01] extinguishing the fire [1:24:02] . [1:24:02] Entirely put on [1:24:03] our local and [1:24:04] brave [1:24:05] firefighters don't let [1:24:05] them get [1:24:06] away [1:24:06] with it [1:24:07] . Thank [1:24:07] you so [1:24:08] much. Thank you [1:24:10] . Anybody [1:24:11] else [1:24:11] with non, go ahead [1:24:16] . [1:24:16] Exactly [1:24:18] Good morning. My name [1:24:20] is [1:24:20] Kathleen Redman, and [1:24:21] I [1:24:22] am [1:24:22] speaking for [1:24:23] Ingrid Hinton [1:24:25] . [1:24:25] This morning as [1:24:26] she is from [1:24:27] Mount Vernon, and [1:24:28] I'm also from [1:24:29] Mount Vernon [1:24:31] . Dear [1:24:32] commissioners, and this [1:24:33] is [1:24:33] from [1:24:34] Zach [1:24:34] Small [1:24:34] on [1:24:36] Samish Island [1:24:37] . An [1:24:38] 80 [1:24:38] pound [1:24:40] residential lithium [1:24:41] ion battery caught [1:24:42] fire [1:24:42] in [1:24:43] Hayfort [1:24:45] , California last week [1:24:46] . [1:24:47] The incident resulted in [1:24:47] road [1:24:48] closures [1:24:49] a [1:24:50] shelter in [1:24:51] place [1:24:51] order [1:24:54] . Haxic fumes concerns [1:24:56] runoff monitoring [1:24:58] and [1:24:58] evacuation planning [1:25:00] . The [1:25:01] Samish [1:25:01] Island [1:25:02] Bess is [1:25:05] uh, is [1:25:06] substantially larger [1:25:07] and [1:25:07] is [1:25:09] located approximately [1:25:10] 20 [1:25:10] ft [1:25:11] from my property [1:25:13] . This incident [1:25:13] is [1:25:14] a reminder that [1:25:15] when [1:25:16] battery [1:25:16] failures occur [1:25:18] , the impacts can [1:25:19] extend well beyond [1:25:21] the battery [1:25:21] itself [1:25:23] . The [1:25:23] question isn't [1:25:23] just [1:25:24] whether [1:25:25] something [1:25:25] is likely [1:25:26] to [1:25:26] happen [1:25:27] . It's [1:25:27] whether [1:25:28] the [1:25:31] potential consequences [1:25:31] are [1:25:31] worth the risk [1:25:34] . And [1:25:34] these [1:25:35] are [1:25:36] Ingrid's questions [1:25:38] . Um [1:25:39] do we [1:25:41] have plans in [1:25:41] place to where [1:25:42] people are going [1:25:43] to [1:25:44] evacuate [1:25:45] to [1:25:46] and what's going to happen with [1:25:46] road [1:25:48] closures, etc [1:25:50] . How can [1:25:51] the [1:25:52] commissioners ok this [1:25:54] ? Are [1:25:54] the [1:25:55] commissioners for people [1:25:57] of [1:25:58] Skagitt County [1:25:58] or [1:25:59] billionaire [1:26:00] companies. Thank [1:26:01] you [1:26:01] . Thank you [1:26:02] Anybody else [1:26:03] ? Rebecca [1:26:12] ? Good [1:26:13] morning, Rebecca [1:26:13] Peck [1:26:14] from Bow [1:26:15] . [1:26:15] Skagitt County law [1:26:17] enforcement [1:26:17] Training Center [1:26:18] , aka Cop City [1:26:19] , [1:26:19] is [1:26:19] being [1:26:20] proposed and claims [1:26:20] are being [1:26:21] made. It [1:26:22] will be good [1:26:22] for [1:26:22] our [1:26:23] county economy [1:26:23] by [1:26:24] bringing in [1:26:25] neighboring [1:26:26] counties [1:26:26] officers [1:26:26] for [1:26:27] training [1:26:28] , [1:26:28] notably [1:26:29] the Washington [1:26:29] State [1:26:29] Justice [1:26:30] Training Commission [1:26:31] opened its [1:26:31] newest [1:26:32] regional [1:26:33] law [1:26:33] enforcement training center [1:26:34] , [1:26:34] Northwest [1:26:35] Academy last year [1:26:35] in [1:26:36] Arlington [1:26:37] . I surfed [1:26:37] the web to [1:26:37] see how much our [1:26:38] local [1:26:39] police [1:26:39] departments spend on [1:26:40] training [1:26:40] travel. Nearest [1:26:41] I [1:26:42] could [1:26:42] figure [1:26:42] out [1:26:44] in [1:26:44] 2024 [1:26:44] and Cordei drove [1:26:45] Mount [1:26:46] Vernon and [1:26:46] and [1:26:46] the [1:26:47] sheriff spent a total [1:26:49] of [1:26:50] 377,000 something [1:26:51] . I also [1:26:51] surfed the web [1:26:52] to see how [1:26:52] much [1:26:53] a value of [1:26:53] one acre [1:26:55] of [1:26:56] Portiscadget property is the [1:26:58] newest number I could find was [1:27:00] from [1:27:00] 2014 [1:27:00] . 50 acres [1:27:02] at [1:27:03] the 2014 [1:27:04] value of [1:27:07] $65,898 per acre [1:27:09] equals [1:27:09] 3 [1:27:09] millions [1:27:10] some change [1:27:11] in [1:27:12] $2014 that property [1:27:13] would be [1:27:13] off [1:27:14] the tax base [1:27:15] , off the [1:27:15] port [1:27:16] would not be [1:27:16] able to [1:27:18] . Use it [1:27:18] like it's supposed to [1:27:20] be used. [1:27:20] If [1:27:21] there's actually a need for [1:27:21] more [1:27:22] places for police to train [1:27:23] let [1:27:24] anybody [1:27:24] else build [1:27:25] it. It [1:27:25] will [1:27:25] be [1:27:27] way cheaper to send our [1:27:27] law [1:27:28] , law enforcement to [1:27:29] someone [1:27:29] else's cop city [1:27:31] . The need for a [1:27:32] new 911 [1:27:33] center [1:27:34] is real, and [1:27:35] that [1:27:35] can [1:27:36] happen without a [1:27:37] cop [1:27:37] city [1:27:38] . If [1:27:40] we [1:27:40] cannot afford to [1:27:41] fully fund the [1:27:42] public [1:27:43] defender's office, we [1:27:43] certainly [1:27:44] cannot [1:27:45] afford a [1:27:45] cop city [1:27:47] . The [1:27:47] constitutional right of due [1:27:48] process is [1:27:49] to provide equal [1:27:50] justice to all [1:27:50] , so that [1:27:51] an [1:27:52] impoverished person receives [1:27:54] quality legal representation [1:27:55] and full [1:27:56] due process [1:27:56] just as [1:27:57] good as the [1:27:57] legal work [1:27:58] a [1:27:59] millionaire can buy [1:28:00] . By not [1:28:01] fully funding [1:28:01] public defenders, [1:28:01] we do [1:28:02] not [1:28:03] have [1:28:03] equal justice [1:28:03] for all [1:28:05] . The [1:28:05] privilege in [1:28:07] this [1:28:07] room must [1:28:07] be noted [1:28:09] . My guess [1:28:10] is [1:28:10] that [1:28:12] if everyone here was [1:28:12] arrested for [1:28:13] a crime [1:28:14] , we [1:28:14] would [1:28:15] all [1:28:15] hire [1:28:17] private attorney. We [1:28:17] are the [1:28:17] lucky [1:28:18] ones who [1:28:19] have [1:28:20] some finances to use [1:28:21] to buy us [1:28:21] the [1:28:22] best [1:28:22] due process [1:28:23] we can get [1:28:24] Many of [1:28:25] our neighbors are not [1:28:26] so fortunate [1:28:30] . The 5th and 6th [1:28:30] Amendments are about due [1:28:32] process. 5th [1:28:32] and 6th [1:28:33] , right [1:28:33] up [1:28:34] thereafter our rights to free [1:28:35] speech, blah blah blah [1:28:37] . Help [1:28:37] our [1:28:37] community [1:28:38] , help [1:28:39] our [1:28:39] democracy, and fully fund the [1:28:41] public [1:28:41] defender's office [1:28:42] instead of building a cop city [1:28:44] and [1:28:45] schedule more time for [1:28:46] public comments so you don't [1:28:48] feel pressured. Thank you [1:28:48] . [1:28:49] Thank you [1:28:50] And the question [1:28:52] , go [1:28:52] ahead [1:29:00] . Good morning [1:29:01] . Heather [1:29:02] Fuller Leo [1:29:02] representing [1:29:03] Ask [1:29:03] Me [1:29:05] Local 176 [1:29:06] . Our PRESIDENT Was [1:29:07] going to be here today [1:29:07] to speak [1:29:09] but [1:29:09] unfortunately she is [1:29:10] not [1:29:11] able to, so I'm going to read [1:29:11] her speech [1:29:13] to you [1:29:13] . Good [1:29:13] morning [1:29:14] commissioners. My [1:29:15] name [1:29:15] is [1:29:15] Wendy [1:29:16] Morgan, and I have [1:29:17] the [1:29:17] privilege [1:29:18] of [1:29:18] serving [1:29:19] serving as [1:29:20] PRESIDENT Of Ask Me [1:29:22] Local [1:29:22] 176, [1:29:23] representing [1:29:23] the [1:29:24] hardworking [1:29:24] employees of [1:29:25] Skagitt County [1:29:27] Public Works [1:29:27] . Today [1:29:27] , I'm here [1:29:28] on [1:29:29] behalf of the [1:29:29] men [1:29:29] and women [1:29:30] who main [1:29:30] tain [1:29:31] our roads [1:29:31] , [1:29:31] operate [1:29:32] heavy [1:29:33] equipment, [1:29:33] respond to storms [1:29:35] and [1:29:36] emergencies, keep [1:29:37] our [1:29:38] infrastructures functioning [1:29:39] , [1:29:40] operate our [1:29:40] transfer [1:29:40] stations [1:29:41] and serve [1:29:42] the citizens of [1:29:42] this [1:29:43] county every [1:29:43] single day [1:29:44] . For [1:29:45] the past year and [1:29:46] a half [1:29:46] , we [1:29:47] have continued [1:29:48] showing up to [1:29:49] work [1:29:49] without a [1:29:51] new [1:29:51] contract. We [1:29:52] are continuing [1:29:53] to [1:29:53] do [1:29:53] our [1:29:54] jobs [1:29:54] professionally [1:29:56] , safely [1:29:56] , and [1:29:57] with pride [1:29:58] . We [1:29:58] responded to [1:29:59] snow storms [1:30:00] and [1:30:00] floods [1:30:00] , [1:30:01] maintained [1:30:02] and repaired [1:30:02] our [1:30:03] roads [1:30:03] , operated [1:30:03] and [1:30:04] serviced [1:30:05] heavy equipment, kept [1:30:06] our [1:30:07] transfer [1:30:08] stations [1:30:08] running [1:30:09] , [1:30:09] assisted thousands [1:30:10] of customers [1:30:11] and [1:30:11] answered every [1:30:12] call the [1:30:12] county [1:30:13] has asked [1:30:14] of [1:30:14] us. Day [1:30:14] after [1:30:15] day [1:30:15] we [1:30:16] have upheld our [1:30:16] commitment [1:30:17] to [1:30:18] Skagitt County [1:30:18] . [1:30:18] We [1:30:19] simply ask [1:30:20] that the [1:30:20] county [1:30:21] uphold the same [1:30:21] commitment [1:30:22] to [1:30:22] us [1:30:23] . What [1:30:24] has [1:30:25] increasingly has [1:30:25] become [1:30:27] increasingly frustrating [1:30:28] It's not just [1:30:29] the length [1:30:30] of [1:30:30] negotiations [1:30:31] , but [1:30:31] the feeling [1:30:32] that [1:30:32] our employees are [1:30:33] not [1:30:34] being [1:30:34] valued [1:30:35] equally [1:30:36] . The [1:30:36] ferry [1:30:37] employees reached [1:30:38] an [1:30:39] agreement [1:30:39] that included [1:30:40] a [1:30:41] 4% [1:30:41] wage [1:30:42] increase [1:30:43] in 2025 [1:30:43] . Our [1:30:44] bargaining [1:30:45] unit has [1:30:45] remained [1:30:45] at [1:30:45] 3% [1:30:47] . While nearly every [1:30:49] other [1:30:49] proposal we have brought [1:30:50] forward has [1:30:50] been rejected [1:30:52] . The [1:30:54] only movement we've seen was on [1:30:54] a [1:30:55] boot allowance [1:30:56] , and [1:30:57] even [1:30:57] that [1:30:57] became [1:30:58] a reimbursement rather [1:30:59] than a [1:30:59] true benefit [1:31:01] . Our [1:31:01] members [1:31:02] are [1:31:03] asking a [1:31:03] simple [1:31:05] question. Why are we being [1:31:06] treated differently [1:31:07] ? We [1:31:08] aren't [1:31:08] asking for [1:31:09] special treatment [1:31:09] . [1:31:10] We're asking for [1:31:12] fair treatment [1:31:12] Every month [1:31:13] that passes without [1:31:14] a [1:31:14] contract [1:31:15] affects morale [1:31:16] . We [1:31:17] begin to [1:31:17] wonder whether [1:31:18] our [1:31:19] dedication matters [1:31:19] . It [1:31:20] becomes [1:31:21] harder to [1:31:21] recruit [1:31:22] qualified [1:31:22] workers [1:31:23] , which [1:31:23] leads to [1:31:24] employee [1:31:26] burnout and even [1:31:26] harder to [1:31:28] retain [1:31:28] the [1:31:29] experienced employees who [1:31:30] keep [1:31:30] this [1:31:31] county running safely [1:31:33] and [1:31:33] efficiently. No one [1:31:35] wants [1:31:35] negotiations to [1:31:37] become [1:31:38] confrontational. We want [1:31:39] a [1:31:39] partnership [1:31:39] . We want [1:31:40] to reach [1:31:40] an [1:31:41] agreement [1:31:41] that respects [1:31:42] the [1:31:42] value of [1:31:43] public [1:31:44] works employees [1:31:45] bring [1:31:45] to Skaggett [1:31:46] County every [1:31:46] day [1:31:47] . Commissioners, we [1:31:48] are [1:31:48] asking [1:31:48] that [1:31:49] you help [1:31:50] move [1:31:50] this [1:31:51] process forward [1:31:53] . Show us that [1:31:53] our work [1:31:54] is [1:31:54] valued [1:31:55] , demonstrate [1:31:57] that fairness is [1:31:57] a [1:31:58] word that it [1:31:59] is a [1:32:00] print that is more than a [1:32:00] word that [1:32:01] it's [1:32:01] a principle [1:32:02] . [1:32:02] This [1:32:03] county [1:32:04] stands behind [1:32:04] . Our [1:32:05] members [1:32:06] have remained [1:32:07] . You're [1:32:07] Patient [1:32:08] for [1:32:09] 18 [1:32:09] months [1:32:10] . We're [1:32:10] not asking for [1:32:11] progress. Thank [1:32:12] you. Thank you very much [1:32:15] . [1:32:15] Anthony, you want to go or is [1:32:16] there anybody else [1:32:17] like to [1:32:17] go [1:32:18] that doesn't deal with [1:32:19] I [1:32:19] think [1:32:20] Anthony, go ahead [1:32:27] Anthony [1:32:27] Romano [1:32:29] , Anthony Romano, Anthony [1:32:29] Romano, Anthony Romano, 44681 [1:32:29] of [1:32:31] Upper Skagget. Um [1:32:33] I've got [1:32:34] the [1:32:35] official documents right [1:32:36] here of uh [1:32:37] Ep [1:32:38] Schuler and the [1:32:38] and the [1:32:39] and [1:32:40] the [1:32:42] easement rights [1:32:42] right here and where uh [1:32:45] Tim [1:32:45] Bellfield [1:32:46] right [1:32:46] here [1:32:47] , files for [1:32:50] uh, development activities [1:32:51] . In [1:32:51] 2003 [1:32:54] and I'd like to read you [1:32:54] something [1:32:58] . Out [1:32:59] of the [1:33:00] court [1:33:00] papers [1:33:00] , disturbing [1:33:02] , [1:33:03] disturbingly, someone has [1:33:03] strung [1:33:04] barbed [1:33:05] wire across the [1:33:05] path from Schuler [1:33:06] Road [1:33:07] onto [1:33:07] a [1:33:09] state-owned property that led [1:33:10] to another neighbor's home [1:33:11] . [1:33:11] Which Anthony [1:33:12] frequently using [1:33:12] quad or motorbike [1:33:14] . Or [1:33:14] Anthony [1:33:16] frequently [1:33:16] using his quad [1:33:18] motorbike. If [1:33:18] Anthony [1:33:19] had [1:33:19] seen [1:33:20] , [1:33:21] not had not seen the barbed [1:33:21] wire [1:33:21] before [1:33:22] he drove down [1:33:23] the [1:33:23] path [1:33:24] full speed [1:33:25] . He would have [1:33:25] most likely have [1:33:26] been killed [1:33:26] or [1:33:27] maimed [1:33:29] . Anthony reported the [1:33:30] incident to the police [1:33:32] . But [1:33:32] there was [1:33:34] insufficient evidence [1:33:34] to show who had [1:33:36] strung the [1:33:37] barbed wire across the path, [1:33:37] and I found [1:33:38] the [1:33:38] barbed [1:33:38] wire in [1:33:39] the neighbor's yard [1:33:42] . Anthony [1:33:43] later discovered barbed wire [1:33:46] matching the barbed wire [1:33:46] and [1:33:47] strung across [1:33:47] the trail on the [1:33:48] Bellfields property [1:33:49] . More and [1:33:50] more, Anthony has begun to fear [1:33:50] for [1:33:51] his safety [1:33:52] . The Bellfields [1:33:52] have also [1:33:54] filed [1:33:54] multiple [1:33:55] anti-harassment petitions [1:33:55] against him [1:33:56] which [1:33:56] are [1:33:56] chock [1:33:57] full [1:33:57] of fabrications [1:33:59] . Each, [1:33:59] each of [1:34:00] these [1:34:01] are [1:34:01] filed [1:34:01] . [1:34:02] Anthony must [1:34:03] spend [1:34:03] a great [1:34:03] deal [1:34:03] of time and [1:34:04] money [1:34:05] to defend [1:34:05] himself [1:34:07] . Um [1:34:08] , the [1:34:08] Bellfields [1:34:08] have [1:34:09] engaged in [1:34:10] a [1:34:10] callous [1:34:10] campaign to [1:34:12] harm [1:34:12] Anthony's [1:34:13] reputation and paint him as [1:34:14] a [1:34:14] harassing [1:34:15] and dangerous person. [1:34:15] Which [1:34:17] is undeniable [1:34:17] . Anthony [1:34:17] does not [1:34:19] doubt that the [1:34:19] Bellfields have been trying to [1:34:20] drive [1:34:21] him out of the [1:34:22] neighborhood. The [1:34:22] neighbor to [1:34:24] the [1:34:24] southeast [1:34:24] of Anthony's [1:34:25] , [1:34:26] Deborah Abel [1:34:26] began to [1:34:28] assist [1:34:28] Bellfield's efforts [1:34:30] . MISS [1:34:30] Abel [1:34:30] was married to [1:34:32] an [1:34:32] heir [1:34:32] to [1:34:33] the [1:34:35] Johnson's estate, which used to [1:34:35] own most of the [1:34:37] Schuler [1:34:37] Road [1:34:38] lots before they sold them, but [1:34:40] but except mine. That's why [1:34:40] mine is accepted a lot [1:34:42] . Anyway [1:34:43] , [1:34:44] um, that's pretty much the gist [1:34:45] of [1:34:46] it [1:34:46] . And [1:34:48] , uh, uh, uh, here's [1:34:49] where, um [1:34:50] , Chicago Title has [1:34:51] made a typographical error and [1:34:51] will [1:34:53] not change it, and that is [1:34:53] on, uh, um [1:34:58] that is [1:34:59] right [1:35:03] where [1:35:04] Miss Winters ends up with [1:35:05] Aboriginal rights [1:35:06] and whatnot [1:35:06] . [1:35:07] Anyway, I'll, I'll [1:35:08] I'll I'll [1:35:09] just try to make this short [1:35:10] . Um [1:35:11] uh, and that's [1:35:11] where Janicky [1:35:13] comes in and, and [1:35:13] the [1:35:13] sheriff's [1:35:14] department [1:35:15] harassing me and [1:35:16] making [1:35:17] up stories [1:35:18] and [1:35:19] fabrications against [1:35:19] me, and [1:35:20] I'm a [1:35:20] very [1:35:20] nice person, you [1:35:21] know [1:35:22] , unless you pissed me off, [1:35:22] you know [1:35:23] , and that, you know, [1:35:23] that's [1:35:26] anybody has the right [1:35:26] to [1:35:26] be mad, but [1:35:26] I've [1:35:27] never touched [1:35:27] or [1:35:29] harmed anybody. I'm the only [1:35:29] one that's [1:35:31] been assaulted. I'm [1:35:31] the only one that's [1:35:31] had [1:35:32] property damage [1:35:33] . Thank [1:35:33] , thank [1:35:34] you very much, Anthony. Thank [1:35:34] you so [1:35:35] much [1:35:36] . Thank you [1:35:37] . Anybody [1:35:38] else on [1:35:38] anything besides the [1:35:40] Northern state property [1:35:41] ? No [1:35:42] , go [1:35:42] ahead. Thank you [1:35:44] . All right [1:35:45] , so [1:35:45] you have a [1:35:47] list here? I do, and [1:35:47] I'm going [1:35:47] to call out [1:35:49] the name [1:35:49] and then I'm going to call the [1:35:50] person [1:35:51] after them so they're [1:35:51] ready to go [1:35:52] , so we don't spend [1:35:52] a lot of [1:35:53] time [1:35:53] in [1:35:54] transport [1:35:54] here [1:35:55] So first on [1:35:55] the [1:35:56] list [1:35:56] , Joelen [1:35:57] Kesty [1:35:58] After that [1:35:58] , Eric Mobs [1:36:05] . [1:36:05] Good [1:36:06] morning [1:36:07] , commissioners. [1:36:07] For the record, my name [1:36:09] is [1:36:10] Joelly Kesty and I serve as the [1:36:11] mayor of [1:36:11] Cedar [1:36:11] Woolley [1:36:12] . I'm [1:36:12] here today to ask you to [1:36:14] support a [1:36:14] proposed [1:36:14] interlocal [1:36:15] agreement with [1:36:16] the City [1:36:16] of [1:36:17] Cedar Woolly and [1:36:17] move forward [1:36:18] with the [1:36:18] visions [1:36:19] Gadget [1:36:19] County [1:36:20] established [1:36:20] decades [1:36:21] ago and [1:36:21] its [1:36:22] comprehensive plan [1:36:22] in the [1:36:23] Northern [1:36:23] State [1:36:24] Recreational [1:36:25] master [1:36:25] plan. For [1:36:26] more than [1:36:26] 30 [1:36:26] years [1:36:26] , Northern [1:36:28] state [1:36:29] recreational area has [1:36:29] been [1:36:30] identified as the [1:36:31] future home [1:36:31] for [1:36:32] athletics [1:36:32] . This is not [1:36:32] a [1:36:33] new [1:36:34] proposal [1:36:34] . Your [1:36:34] own [1:36:35] comprehensive [1:36:36] plan recognizes [1:36:36] that [1:36:37] there is a [1:36:37] great demand [1:36:37] for more [1:36:38] sports fields, and [1:36:38] it [1:36:39] recommends that the county [1:36:41] supports agencies that are [1:36:41] making efforts to create [1:36:43] new [1:36:43] fields [1:36:43] . It [1:36:44] specifically [1:36:46] identifies Northern [1:36:46] state [1:36:47] recreational area [1:36:47] as [1:36:47] the [1:36:48] location for youth [1:36:48] and [1:36:49] adult [1:36:50] ballfield complex. This [1:36:51] , this [1:36:52] city has [1:36:52] strong [1:36:53] support for [1:36:54] this effort from the si [1:36:55] Juli [1:36:55] School [1:36:55] District, the [1:36:56] Upper [1:36:57] Skagit tribe [1:36:57] , Cedarly [1:36:57] Little [1:36:58] League [1:36:59] , generous [1:37:00] private donors [1:37:00] and [1:37:00] many [1:37:01] cedar [1:37:01] Woolly residents [1:37:02] We finally [1:37:03] have [1:37:03] the one-time [1:37:04] funding and [1:37:04] private [1:37:05] donations [1:37:05] to make [1:37:06] this vision a real [1:37:06] ity [1:37:07] When [1:37:07] flooding at [1:37:08] Riverfront [1:37:08] Park became an [1:37:09] increasing [1:37:10] concern. The first thought was [1:37:11] to move the baseball [1:37:12] and [1:37:13] softball fields to Wendy Hauser [1:37:13] Park [1:37:14] . But [1:37:14] after [1:37:15] careful [1:37:15] planning [1:37:15] , it became clear [1:37:16] that [1:37:17] Winnhauser Park could not meet [1:37:17] the [1:37:19] long-term needs of [1:37:19] our [1:37:20] community [1:37:20] , keeping Winnie [1:37:21] Hauser [1:37:21] as [1:37:21] a [1:37:22] premier [1:37:22] soccer [1:37:23] complex [1:37:23] while [1:37:24] transitioning [1:37:25] riverfront [1:37:25] towards [1:37:26] additional [1:37:26] soccer use [1:37:26] is the [1:37:27] better [1:37:28] long-term solution [1:37:29] . Soccer [1:37:29] fields [1:37:29] can recover from [1:37:30] the [1:37:31] flooding far [1:37:31] more easily [1:37:32] while [1:37:32] baseball [1:37:33] and softball [1:37:33] require [1:37:34] permanent [1:37:35] infrastructure that [1:37:35] is costly [1:37:36] to repair after [1:37:36] flood [1:37:37] events. Northern [1:37:37] State [1:37:38] Recreational Area [1:37:39] provides the [1:37:39] room to [1:37:39] grow [1:37:40] and the [1:37:41] opportunity to build a [1:37:42] permanent home for our [1:37:44] youth [1:37:44] programs exactly as [1:37:45] the [1:37:45] county [1:37:45] envisioned more than [1:37:46] 3 [1:37:46] decades [1:37:47] ago. I was [1:37:48] appointed to [1:37:49] represent the people of Cedar [1:37:49] Woolley, and that is who I [1:37:50] am [1:37:50] here [1:37:51] to speak [1:37:51] for [1:37:51] . While I [1:37:52] respect the [1:37:53] others [1:37:53] have [1:37:53] opinions. My [1:37:54] concern is for [1:37:54] the [1:37:55] families in [1:37:56] our community [1:37:56] who [1:37:56] have [1:37:56] waited more [1:37:57] than 30 years [1:37:58] for [1:37:58] this commitment to become [1:37:59] a [1:38:00] reality [1:38:01] . Concerns that [1:38:01] this [1:38:01] project [1:38:02] will [1:38:03] impact wetlands [1:38:03] or [1:38:03] threaten [1:38:04] the [1:38:04] American veteran [1:38:05] . [1:38:05] Do [1:38:05] not [1:38:06] reflect this proposal [1:38:08] The recorded protected [1:38:08] critical [1:38:09] area document protects the [1:38:11] Hansen [1:38:12] Creek alluvial fan [1:38:12] and [1:38:13] wetlands and [1:38:13] specifically [1:38:14] allows baseball [1:38:15] fields [1:38:15] development inside the berm [1:38:16] . [1:38:16] The [1:38:16] American veteran is [1:38:17] not [1:38:17] an [1:38:18] endangered or [1:38:19] threatened [1:38:20] species [1:38:20] . This [1:38:21] protects [1:38:22] this [1:38:22] project follows [1:38:23] your [1:38:23] comprehensive plan. It follows [1:38:24] your [1:38:25] master plan [1:38:25] . It fulfills [1:38:25] a [1:38:25] vision [1:38:26] the county [1:38:27] has supported [1:38:27] for decades [1:38:28] . I respectfully [1:38:28] ask [1:38:29] you [1:38:29] to set [1:38:30] politics [1:38:30] aside [1:38:30] , [1:38:31] follow through with your [1:38:31] own [1:38:32] plans [1:38:32] , honor [1:38:33] the commitments [1:38:34] already made and give the [1:38:34] children and [1:38:35] families of [1:38:35] Cra [1:38:35] Woolley [1:38:36] , the permanent home [1:38:36] for [1:38:36] baseball [1:38:37] and softball. They [1:38:37] have [1:38:38] waited more [1:38:38] than 30 years [1:38:39] to receive. Thank you [1:38:40] . Erik [1:38:42] Moves, Jen and Jake [1:38:43] , Denmark [1:38:43] Hucker [1:38:52] . Good morning. Good [1:38:53] morning [1:38:53] . Eric Mobs. Um [1:38:54] I'm [1:38:55] on [1:38:56] the Little League board. I [1:38:56] don't have a speech. I [1:38:57] just [1:38:58] want to come up here and speak. [1:38:59] I got some notes I want to [1:39:00] go [1:39:00] over [1:39:01] . I'm not to [1:39:01] argue birds [1:39:02] . [1:39:03] I'm not going to argue the [1:39:03] fields. I'm just going to give [1:39:04] the [1:39:05] pros to [1:39:05] why we [1:39:05] need fields [1:39:07] . [1:39:07] So [1:39:09] me personally, this year is [1:39:10] my first year on the [1:39:11] board. [1:39:11] It's my 3rd [1:39:12] year doing Little [1:39:12] League with my girls [1:39:13] . I [1:39:14] put [1:39:14] in [1:39:15] countless hours [1:39:16] , volunteer [1:39:16] hours, cleaning up [1:39:18] . Flood [1:39:19] debris [1:39:19] helping [1:39:20] the city as [1:39:20] much [1:39:21] as I can. The city worked with [1:39:21] is awesome [1:39:22] . But [1:39:23] it was a lot of [1:39:23] work and I [1:39:24] had work parties [1:39:25] out [1:39:25] there 5 to [1:39:26] 6 deep, and it [1:39:27] would [1:39:27] take us 2 to [1:39:28] 3 weekends to get [1:39:28] it ready [1:39:29] to play ball again [1:39:30] . [1:39:30] That amount of effort [1:39:32] I [1:39:32] see [1:39:33] with moving these fields [1:39:34] somewhere not prone to it [1:39:34] . It's [1:39:35] going to make us [1:39:36] take [1:39:37] some [1:39:37] pressure off the city [1:39:39] because [1:39:39] we love maintaining [1:39:40] ball fields [1:39:41] Jake can contest [1:39:41] to this. I [1:39:43] love going out and maintaining [1:39:43] ball fields [1:39:45] . Cleaning [1:39:45] up a [1:39:46] flood mess every year [1:39:47] . It's [1:39:48] going to get a little old [1:39:52] The [1:39:53] central location for those [1:39:54] fields, I think is [1:39:54] a [1:39:55] huge [1:39:55] benefit to [1:39:56] Cedar Woolley. Right [1:39:57] now, people drive into [1:39:57] Riverfront. That's the [1:39:59] beginning of Cedar [1:39:59] Wooley. They [1:39:59] go to [1:40:00] Jannii [1:40:01] . That's not [1:40:01] Cedar [1:40:02] Woolley quite yet, right [1:40:03] ? If [1:40:03] we [1:40:04] can get them to go through [1:40:05] Cro [1:40:05] Woolley [1:40:06] . That's [1:40:08] gonna bring [1:40:08] economic impact to that city [1:40:09] . [1:40:10] It's going to make them drive [1:40:11] down 20 [1:40:13] . And see all the cool [1:40:13] shops and see [1:40:14] where they can [1:40:14] turn off [1:40:15] . And then they're [1:40:15] gonna end up on the [1:40:17] bottom [1:40:17] of [1:40:17] the [1:40:19] Cascade Mountains and [1:40:19] play [1:40:20] baseball [1:40:21] or softball [1:40:21] . That's [1:40:22] pretty awesome [1:40:23] So [1:40:23] I'm [1:40:23] really [1:40:24] excited about this proposal. I [1:40:24] hope [1:40:26] you guys really [1:40:26] consider [1:40:26] that, that [1:40:28] , that would, this [1:40:28] will be a great home [1:40:30] . And it [1:40:31] can expand. It can be other [1:40:31] things [1:40:33] . We've had questions on [1:40:33] our Facebook page. What [1:40:34] else is [1:40:35] going to happen there? All we [1:40:36] can say right now is [1:40:36] it's going [1:40:37] to be open to the [1:40:37] public [1:40:38] . [1:40:38] Everybody's gonna get [1:40:39] to use [1:40:39] this property [1:40:40] . We [1:40:41] have [1:40:41] no [1:40:42] intention of impacting any [1:40:42] wildlife [1:40:44] . If anything, we would [1:40:45] like to have that [1:40:46] area too [1:40:46] where we can go show kids [1:40:47] the [1:40:47] wildlife [1:40:48] . It'd be a [1:40:49] great [1:40:49] opportunity for them [1:40:50] So [1:40:51] with [1:40:51] that, I hold back [1:40:52] . I really [1:40:53] hope you guys consider this [1:40:54] Thanks [1:40:55] , Eric [1:40:55] . Jake [1:40:56] Denmark [1:40:58] , and [1:40:58] then [1:40:58] uh Carl Dion [1:41:06] . Good [1:41:06] morning [1:41:07] commissioners [1:41:08] My name's Jake [1:41:09] Denmark. Um [1:41:09] , I'm [1:41:11] a longtime [1:41:11] resident of [1:41:11] Cedar [1:41:13] Woolley and [1:41:13] the [1:41:13] vice PRESIDENT Of the [1:41:14] Little League [1:41:15] . I've been with [1:41:16] the Little League for the last [1:41:16] 10 [1:41:17] years on [1:41:18] the board [1:41:19] . So I've [1:41:20] seen all these floods and all [1:41:21] the [1:41:22] damage that comes [1:41:22] with [1:41:23] it [1:41:23] . [1:41:23] Um [1:41:25] moving [1:41:26] the [1:41:26] fields [1:41:27] up there [1:41:27] would [1:41:29] really [1:41:29] benefit our [1:41:29] community. In [1:41:31] the [1:41:31] last 10 years [1:41:32] our Little [1:41:34] League has more [1:41:34] than [1:41:35] doubled. We're the largest [1:41:35] league in [1:41:36] the [1:41:36] county by far. We [1:41:38] have [1:41:38] over [1:41:39] 600 kids [1:41:40] . In the [1:41:41] Little League [1:41:42] . Um [1:41:43] when [1:41:43] I was a [1:41:43] kid [1:41:44] in [1:41:45] Woolley [1:41:45] , we [1:41:45] had fields [1:41:47] all over [1:41:48] . Um in the [1:41:49] last [1:41:49] 1015 [1:41:50] years, all we've done really [1:41:52] is [1:41:52] lose fields [1:41:53] . Um, for whatever [1:41:54] reason [1:41:54] , a roundabout [1:41:57] , um, park [1:41:58] , [1:41:58] we've lost [1:41:59] , lost fields [1:42:00] . We [1:42:01] want to [1:42:03] continue growing. We [1:42:03] want to provide a place for the [1:42:03] kids [1:42:05] to go play [1:42:07] . They need this [1:42:08] They [1:42:09] need to have a place to go [1:42:10] play [1:42:12] . Our kids shouldn't be [1:42:12] trying to go out [1:42:14] of town to [1:42:14] find [1:42:14] a field [1:42:14] to [1:42:16] practice on [1:42:16] . We [1:42:16] I mean, we [1:42:17] have [1:42:17] the space [1:42:18] The [1:42:19] plan is there [1:42:19] , the money's [1:42:19] there [1:42:21] . People are there [1:42:23] and [1:42:23] we [1:42:24] really ask you guys to take [1:42:24] this [1:42:25] into [1:42:26] serious consideration [1:42:27] and uh put the kids first [1:42:28] . So [1:42:28] on that [1:42:30] , thank you guys very [1:42:30] much [1:42:32] . Right. Carl [1:42:32] the Young [1:42:33] , [1:42:34] Brent Shaf Scheffelbein [1:42:43] . You [1:42:44] don't have to touch the mics [1:42:48] The preset because they're [1:42:48] special mics or something, you [1:42:49] put your [1:42:50] feet on the little [1:42:51] stamps on the floor there [1:42:52] , and [1:42:52] that's where you [1:42:52] stand [1:42:52] . See [1:42:53] this is [1:42:54] how [1:42:55] our [1:42:55] professional [1:42:55] work here [1:42:56] . So [1:42:56] go [1:42:59] ahead [1:42:59] , girl [1:42:59] . [1:43:00] Good morning, Commissioners [1:43:01] . [1:43:01] Carl [1:43:01] Jung [1:43:02] , City [1:43:02] of [1:43:03] Cedarilley [1:43:04] Council [1:43:04] . I [1:43:04] support [1:43:05] continuing [1:43:06] the county [1:43:07] city partnership [1:43:08] on [1:43:08] relocating [1:43:08] Cedar [1:43:09] Woolies [1:43:10] flood [1:43:10] prone [1:43:11] ball fields to the [1:43:12] northern [1:43:12] state [1:43:13] recreation area [1:43:14] . [1:43:14] Skagit [1:43:15] County [1:43:16] families [1:43:16] need [1:43:17] reliable [1:43:18] , safe [1:43:18] , local [1:43:19] youth [1:43:20] athletic fields [1:43:20] . Right now [1:43:21] , [1:43:22] Riverfront Park's Ball fields [1:43:22] sit in a [1:43:23] flood [1:43:24] prone location, [1:43:24] and every flood [1:43:26] field [1:43:26] , every [1:43:27] flood season puts [1:43:28] those [1:43:28] fields [1:43:29] public [1:43:29] money [1:43:30] and [1:43:31] volunteer work [1:43:31] at risk [1:43:33] . Currently, too many [1:43:34] cedar wooly kids [1:43:35] are traveling [1:43:35] out of town to practice [1:43:37] That's [1:43:38] hard on families. It's hard on [1:43:40] the coaches, and it's not a [1:43:40] long term solution [1:43:41] for [1:43:42] a [1:43:42] growing community [1:43:44] . Relocating [1:43:44] the ball fields [1:43:45] to [1:43:46] Northern [1:43:46] State [1:43:47] Recreation [1:43:48] Area is [1:43:48] the [1:43:49] next responsible step [1:43:51] . This is [1:43:51] not just a [1:43:53] city [1:43:53] recreation [1:43:54] issue. It is [1:43:55] a [1:43:56] regional [1:43:57] stewardship decision [1:43:58] . Northern [1:44:00] state includes [1:44:00] important [1:44:00] habitat and [1:44:01] human [1:44:02] and [1:44:02] open [1:44:02] space [1:44:03] , and it's [1:44:04] also [1:44:04] a [1:44:05] regional [1:44:05] recreational area [1:44:07] . Public land [1:44:07] can serve more [1:44:08] than [1:44:09] one [1:44:09] public [1:44:09] purpose when it [1:44:10] is [1:44:11] planned [1:44:11] carefully [1:44:12] . That [1:44:13] includes [1:44:13] kids [1:44:14] , [1:44:14] families [1:44:15] , coaches [1:44:16] , community [1:44:16] activity [1:44:18] , trails [1:44:19] , disc golfers [1:44:20] , [1:44:20] habitat [1:44:21] , and history [1:44:23] . The [1:44:24] county describes Northern State [1:44:24] as a [1:44:25] major [1:44:25] regional [1:44:27] recreational facility for Scout [1:44:27] County [1:44:29] and beyond [1:44:29] . So [1:44:29] this [1:44:30] proposal [1:44:31] fits [1:44:31] that purpose [1:44:32] . It [1:44:33] is [1:44:34] also consistent with [1:44:35] the [1:44:36] current Skagitt [1:44:36] County [1:44:36] Comprehensive Plan [1:44:38] . The [1:44:38] plan [1:44:40] recognizes parks [1:44:40] , trails [1:44:42] , [1:44:42] recreation [1:44:43] , capital [1:44:43] facilities, [1:44:44] public [1:44:44] health [1:44:45] , hazard [1:44:45] mitigation [1:44:47] , and [1:44:47] climate [1:44:48] resilience as [1:44:49] connected [1:44:50] responsibilities [1:44:51] . Moving [1:44:51] youth [1:44:52] athletic fields out of [1:44:54] repeatedly flooded location and [1:44:54] into a [1:44:56] more [1:44:56] durable [1:44:56] regional [1:44:57] setting [1:44:58] is practical [1:44:59] , long [1:44:59] range planning [1:45:01] . Environmental [1:45:03] stewardship and [1:45:03] youth [1:45:03] recreation [1:45:04] can [1:45:05] be [1:45:05] planned [1:45:06] together. The city's [1:45:07] public [1:45:08] works department has done [1:45:08] the [1:45:10] work needed to bring [1:45:10] forward [1:45:10] a [1:45:12] responsible proposal [1:45:13] . Properly [1:45:14] cited youth [1:45:14] ball fields do not [1:45:15] have [1:45:16] to [1:45:17] be incompatible [1:45:18] with [1:45:19] habitat protection [1:45:19] . The [1:45:19] proposal [1:45:21] is designed to [1:45:21] avoid [1:45:22] sensitive areas [1:45:23] , managed [1:45:24] drainage and [1:45:25] storm [1:45:25] water [1:45:26] preserve buffers [1:45:27] and [1:45:27] limit [1:45:28] lighting impacts [1:45:30] and protect [1:45:30] the [1:45:30] character [1:45:31] of northern state [1:45:33] So [1:45:34] our [1:45:34] community's request is [1:45:35] simple. Please [1:45:36] continue [1:45:37] the [1:45:37] partnership and [1:45:39] keep [1:45:39] uh working [1:45:40] with Cedar Woolley [1:45:41] on [1:45:42] responsible interlocal path [1:45:43] . [1:45:43] Help move [1:45:44] youth [1:45:44] sports out of [1:45:45] the [1:45:46] flood cycle and [1:45:47] into [1:45:48] long [1:45:48] term [1:45:49] regional [1:45:50] solution [1:45:50] for kids [1:45:51] families, and [1:45:52] the [1:45:52] broader [1:45:53] Skagitt County community. Thank [1:45:54] you for [1:45:54] your time [1:45:55] . Thank you. [1:45:55] Thanks, Carl [1:45:58] Brent Scheffelbein [1:45:59] and [1:45:59] then Sherry Cameron [1:46:01] . Oh, I [1:46:04] . [1:46:04] Good [1:46:05] morning [1:46:06] , commissioners. [1:46:06] I'm here to [1:46:08] , I [1:46:08] am here today to [1:46:09] voice my [1:46:09] full support [1:46:10] of [1:46:10] partnering with the city of [1:46:11] Sirivoy to construct [1:46:12] new [1:46:13] baseball fields [1:46:13] at Northern [1:46:14] State [1:46:15] Rec [1:46:15] Area. I've [1:46:15] been a [1:46:16] coach for [1:46:17] baseball, football, [1:46:17] and [1:46:18] basketball for the better [1:46:18] part of [1:46:19] a decade [1:46:19] . One [1:46:20] thing [1:46:21] that constantly comes up as [1:46:21] a [1:46:22] problem is [1:46:22] the need [1:46:23] for more [1:46:23] field space [1:46:24] . I [1:46:25] have coached [1:46:25] in [1:46:26] Little League and coached a Cal [1:46:27] Ripken team, and finding [1:46:28] a [1:46:29] field of practice and [1:46:29] host [1:46:29] games is one of [1:46:30] the [1:46:31] most [1:46:31] difficult things that we do [1:46:32] . [1:46:33] This year we pra we [1:46:33] have [1:46:34] practiced and [1:46:35] held all of our [1:46:36] siege wooly mammoth games [1:46:36] over [1:46:37] in [1:46:38] Burlington [1:46:38] because that's [1:46:39] where we [1:46:39] had [1:46:40] field [1:46:40] space [1:46:41] available, and even [1:46:41] then teams [1:46:42] would show [1:46:42] up [1:46:43] themselves [1:46:43] needing a place [1:46:44] to practice [1:46:44] , [1:46:45] whether it [1:46:45] is baseball [1:46:46] , soccer [1:46:47] , [1:46:47] or [1:46:48] football, the [1:46:48] need for [1:46:48] more [1:46:49] fields [1:46:50] , not less [1:46:50] , is [1:46:51] very [1:46:51] apparent [1:46:51] . I [1:46:53] believe that [1:46:53] the [1:46:54] children are [1:46:54] our [1:46:55] future, and [1:46:55] then we should put [1:46:56] them [1:46:56] first [1:46:56] . [1:46:56] Kids learn [1:46:57] valuable skills [1:46:58] through athletics. And [1:46:58] they [1:46:59] carry [1:47:00] that with them for the [1:47:00] rest of [1:47:00] their lives [1:47:02] . According [1:47:03] to your [1:47:03] own documents [1:47:04] , a [1:47:05] baseball field complex has been [1:47:05] your park [1:47:06] plan [1:47:07] for years [1:47:07] , and [1:47:07] you have just been [1:47:08] waiting for [1:47:10] a municipality to partner [1:47:10] with [1:47:10] to bring it [1:47:11] to fruition [1:47:12] . Well, [1:47:12] now is [1:47:13] that time. The city [1:47:14] of [1:47:14] Sirawoli is willing [1:47:15] to [1:47:15] do [1:47:16] so [1:47:16] and [1:47:16] make [1:47:17] your [1:47:18] park plan [1:47:18] come [1:47:19] into existence. Doing [1:47:20] so [1:47:20] will [1:47:21] enhance the lives [1:47:21] of thousands [1:47:22] of kids [1:47:22] over [1:47:23] the next [1:47:24] generations, and that should be [1:47:24] the [1:47:25] goal [1:47:25] . Raise [1:47:26] and enhance [1:47:26] the [1:47:27] lives of [1:47:28] our [1:47:29] next generation. I [1:47:29] ask you today [1:47:32] As [1:47:32] a [1:47:33] taxpayer, I [1:47:34] would like to see the kids [1:47:34] put [1:47:35] first. Thank [1:47:36] you for your time [1:47:37] . [1:47:37] Thanks [1:47:38] , Brent [1:47:38] . Sherry Cameron, [1:47:39] and then [1:47:40] Laura Larson [1:47:41] . Uh [1:47:41] , [1:47:42] Sherry Cameron [1:47:42] doesn't want to [1:47:43] speak [1:47:44] . So I'm [1:47:45] Laura Larson [1:47:45] . [1:47:45] Laura [1:47:45] Larson [1:47:46] , perfect [1:47:47] . Uh [1:47:49] , um, [1:47:49] my biggest concern [1:47:50] is safety [1:47:51] . I [1:47:52] go [1:47:52] and walk [1:47:52] my dog [1:47:53] every [1:47:54] day [1:47:55] at [1:47:56] Northern [1:47:57] State [1:47:57] and [1:47:58] I usually [1:47:58] park on [1:47:59] the [1:48:00] Helmick [1:48:00] Road [1:48:01] , and I [1:48:02] live upriver [1:48:04] . And it's like [1:48:04] every [1:48:05] day [1:48:06] it's [1:48:06] dangerous [1:48:06] to [1:48:07] turn left [1:48:08] off [1:48:09] of Helmick Road [1:48:10] . [1:48:11] Onto Highway 20 [1:48:12] My [1:48:13] biggest [1:48:15] concerns for [1:48:15] the [1:48:15] ball fields [1:48:17] . [1:48:17] Is that [1:48:19] you possibly [1:48:19] could [1:48:20] be [1:48:21] putting [1:48:21] your families [1:48:22] in [1:48:22] danger [1:48:22] because [1:48:23] I've [1:48:23] seen [1:48:24] several [1:48:25] deadly accidents on [1:48:26] Highway 20 [1:48:28] . [1:48:28] And [1:48:28] I [1:48:29] just [1:48:30] feel that [1:48:30] I'm not [1:48:30] against [1:48:31] the ball [1:48:32] fields [1:48:32] . I [1:48:32] think you really [1:48:33] need to [1:48:33] talk [1:48:33] about [1:48:34] the [1:48:35] traffic flow [1:48:35] . I, I [1:48:35] mean [1:48:36] , are [1:48:37] you gonna [1:48:37] put [1:48:37] a [1:48:39] stoplight out on [1:48:39] Helmick Road [1:48:41] . [1:48:41] Probably not right away [1:48:42] . I [1:48:44] worry about our [1:48:45] children too. I [1:48:45] raised [1:48:46] my family [1:48:46] in [1:48:46] Cedar [1:48:47] Woolley [1:48:48] . And [1:48:50] I [1:48:50] just [1:48:51] have this [1:48:52] awful [1:48:53] feeling because I [1:48:54] have [1:48:54] seen [1:48:55] several [1:48:56] MISS [1:48:56] Near misses [1:48:57] on [1:48:58] Highway 20 [1:48:58] , where people [1:48:58] are [1:48:59] passing [1:49:01] , going fast [1:49:01] , and it's [1:49:02] it's [1:49:03] . Really [1:49:04] , really [1:49:06] an [1:49:06] awful [1:49:06] thing to have [1:49:07] to see [1:49:09] . An [1:49:09] accident and [1:49:10] I [1:49:11] also [1:49:11] worry about [1:49:12] the [1:49:13] chemicals [1:49:14] used to [1:49:15] make [1:49:15] the [1:49:16] fields [1:49:16] green [1:49:17] , they'll leach [1:49:17] into [1:49:18] the [1:49:18] water system [1:49:20] . And I [1:49:20] don't know how [1:49:22] how, you know, [1:49:23] people are [1:49:24] going to [1:49:24] , it's going [1:49:24] to [1:49:25] affect [1:49:26] people or or [1:49:26] the [1:49:27] animals [1:49:28] . And I [1:49:29] would just [1:49:29] , I [1:49:29] love going [1:49:31] out there [1:49:31] because [1:49:32] it's peaceful [1:49:33] , it's [1:49:33] quiet [1:49:34] , it's [1:49:34] my quiet time [1:49:35] , it's [1:49:35] green [1:49:36] space [1:49:36] I just [1:49:37] think you [1:49:38] need to [1:49:38] think [1:49:39] about [1:49:39] finding [1:49:40] an [1:49:41] area where [1:49:42] there's [1:49:42] a [1:49:43] better [1:49:43] traffic [1:49:44] flow [1:49:44] . [1:49:44] I'm [1:49:45] not against [1:49:47] Northern State. [1:49:47] I [1:49:47] think you should [1:49:49] put it on [1:49:49] the west side [1:49:50] . Of [1:49:50] Northern [1:49:51] State [1:49:53] um, because [1:49:54] of you have [1:49:54] a [1:49:54] better [1:49:56] traffic flow. You have [1:49:56] a [1:49:56] stoplight, you have [1:49:57] a [1:49:58] roundabout on 9 [1:49:59] . And [1:50:00] thank you [1:50:01] Thank you, Laura [1:50:03] Megan Mobbs [1:50:03] and [1:50:05] Jill Cathcart [1:50:05] . Me and [1:50:05] mom's [1:50:06] went ahead and she left [1:50:06] with [1:50:07] the kiddos. Ok [1:50:08] . Jill Cathcart [1:50:09] with [1:50:09] Troy Hanson [1:50:10] on [1:50:13] deck. Yep [1:50:15] . [1:50:16] My baseball [1:50:18] Hi [1:50:18] , I'm [1:50:19] Jill [1:50:19] Cathcart [1:50:20] . I've [1:50:20] lived in [1:50:21] Cer [1:50:21] Woolley [1:50:21] for almost [1:50:22] 4 [1:50:23] years now [1:50:24] . [1:50:24] Um [1:50:25] , I [1:50:25] know there's a lot [1:50:26] of [1:50:27] people who [1:50:27] , who do [1:50:27] play [1:50:29] sports [1:50:30] and my kids don't [1:50:30] . They [1:50:30] play [1:50:31] sports [1:50:31] for the [1:50:32] for [1:50:32] the schools [1:50:33] , [1:50:34] um, not softball [1:50:35] , um, they do [1:50:36] like [1:50:37] indoor sports [1:50:38] . I [1:50:38] played [1:50:39] softball when I was a [1:50:39] kid and [1:50:40] I [1:50:41] wasn't lucky enough to have [1:50:41] like a [1:50:42] really cool [1:50:42] brand new [1:50:43] field. We were [1:50:43] the [1:50:44] ones [1:50:44] trying [1:50:44] to [1:50:45] find a [1:50:45] place to [1:50:45] play [1:50:46] , um, go [1:50:46] to [1:50:47] other towns [1:50:48] , traveling [1:50:48] to [1:50:48] find [1:50:48] somewhere [1:50:50] to [1:50:50] practice [1:50:51] . I [1:50:51] love [1:50:52] the [1:50:52] idea [1:50:53] of [1:50:53] having [1:50:54] a [1:50:55] complex [1:50:56] where multiple [1:50:57] teams [1:50:57] and leagues can use it [1:50:58] . Um [1:50:59] , [1:51:00] it's, it brings a lot of pride [1:51:01] as [1:51:01] someone [1:51:03] remembering how [1:51:03] being embarrassed at the field [1:51:04] that [1:51:05] other away teams had to [1:51:06] come play at [1:51:06] . I [1:51:06] was embarrassed [1:51:07] as [1:51:07] a kid [1:51:08] , and my city that I [1:51:09] grew up [1:51:10] in finally [1:51:10] 20 years ago [1:51:12] got the [1:51:12] brand [1:51:12] new [1:51:13] sports [1:51:14] complex and [1:51:14] it's [1:51:15] attached [1:51:15] to [1:51:16] um [1:51:17] a veteran's [1:51:17] memorial. Also, [1:51:17] they [1:51:18] changed the [1:51:19] name [1:51:19] to [1:51:20] um [1:51:21] Veterans Freedom Park, and it's [1:51:21] got [1:51:22] a [1:51:22] big [1:51:23] Freedom [1:51:24] Memorial sign [1:51:24] where you [1:51:24] could donate [1:51:25] and [1:51:25] have [1:51:26] your veterans' names put on it, [1:51:27] my grandpa [1:51:28] , my uncle [1:51:28] , um, who [1:51:29] fought in World [1:51:29] War ii are [1:51:30] up [1:51:30] there, and my dad, who's [1:51:31] a [1:51:32] veteran [1:51:32] also [1:51:33] , and it's just, [1:51:33] it's a really [1:51:34] cool sense [1:51:34] of [1:51:35] pride. They would [1:51:35] do [1:51:36] memorial [1:51:36] services there, and I [1:51:37] think [1:51:37] that's [1:51:38] something that could [1:51:38] be [1:51:39] done here [1:51:39] , like [1:51:40] integrate [1:51:41] Memorial Day [1:51:41] at [1:51:42] this park. Um [1:51:43] . [1:51:44] Another thing, I [1:51:44] work at one of [1:51:44] the small shops [1:51:45] in [1:51:46] downtown [1:51:46] Cedro [1:51:46] Woolley [1:51:47] , and we're always [1:51:48] trying to figure out how to get [1:51:49] people to come in [1:51:49] and see [1:51:50] how [1:51:51] special our town is [1:51:52] . Everyone [1:51:52] always talks [1:51:52] about it's this [1:51:53] cute [1:51:54] little quaint town. I came [1:51:55] from like [1:51:55] a [1:51:55] big [1:51:56] populated area [1:51:56] , [1:51:56] so [1:51:57] I [1:51:58] love the [1:51:58] the hallmark [1:51:59] field that [1:51:59] Cedar [1:52:00] Woolley has [1:52:01] . [1:52:01] And this [1:52:01] is one [1:52:02] way that can [1:52:02] bring in [1:52:03] more [1:52:03] people [1:52:04] to help [1:52:04] support [1:52:04] the [1:52:05] small [1:52:06] businesses [1:52:07] , [1:52:07] um, more than just [1:52:08] the two or [1:52:08] three big [1:52:09] events that we have [1:52:09] a [1:52:10] year that [1:52:10] bring in a lot [1:52:11] of [1:52:11] people [1:52:12] . We just had [1:52:12] the [1:52:13] logger [1:52:13] rodeo [1:52:14] , and that was amazing [1:52:14] It [1:52:15] brought on a lot [1:52:16] of people. But [1:52:16] the business [1:52:17] is [1:52:17] downtown and [1:52:18] throughout the [1:52:18] whole [1:52:19] city [1:52:19] need [1:52:20] consistency. We [1:52:21] need [1:52:21] more, [1:52:22] something else [1:52:23] to bring [1:52:23] the [1:52:23] people [1:52:24] into our [1:52:24] town to [1:52:24] eat at [1:52:25] the [1:52:26] amazing restaurants [1:52:26] and [1:52:26] shop at [1:52:26] the small [1:52:27] shops that [1:52:27] we [1:52:28] have, and [1:52:29] I think it [1:52:29] would [1:52:30] just [1:52:30] bring [1:52:30] a big [1:52:31] sense [1:52:32] of [1:52:33] pride for [1:52:33] the [1:52:33] whole town [1:52:34] . And [1:52:34] the county [1:52:35] Oh [1:52:36] , thank you. Thank you [1:52:37] . Troy [1:52:38] Hansen with [1:52:38] Monica [1:52:38] Leibert on [1:52:38] deck [1:52:42] . Uh, ok [1:52:43] , I don't even [1:52:43] speak. I don't know [1:52:44] how [1:52:44] many [1:52:45] ended up on there so [1:52:45] ok. Thanks [1:52:46] Troy [1:52:47] . Monica [1:52:48] Liberg with [1:52:48] Tim [1:52:49] Mann [1:52:50] on deck [1:53:00] . My name's Monica [1:53:01] Liebert. I live [1:53:01] in [1:53:02] Mount Vernon [1:53:03] and I'd like to [1:53:04] speak against [1:53:05] the proposal. I [1:53:06] think that one [1:53:07] of [1:53:07] the concerns that I have is [1:53:08] that you're going [1:53:09] to have [1:53:09] a [1:53:10] major disruption to [1:53:11] the [1:53:11] environment [1:53:12] . With [1:53:12] for [1:53:13] something [1:53:14] that's basically a [1:53:16] seasonal [1:53:16] activity [1:53:16] , so [1:53:17] I think that there [1:53:17] needs [1:53:18] to [1:53:19] be [1:53:19] a [1:53:21] broader [1:53:21] distribution of [1:53:23] the plan [1:53:23] other [1:53:24] than [1:53:24] the 30 [1:53:25] year [1:53:26] old [1:53:27] original [1:53:28] um plan that the [1:53:29] county had [1:53:29] , [1:53:29] which [1:53:30] is now [1:53:32] very [1:53:32] outdated [1:53:33] and [1:53:34] um consider [1:53:34] what [1:53:35] the impact is [1:53:35] going to be [1:53:36] on [1:53:37] the [1:53:37] environment [1:53:38] and [1:53:38] on [1:53:39] the restoration [1:53:39] of [1:53:40] Hanson Creek [1:53:40] , which [1:53:41] runs right [1:53:41] along [1:53:42] the Berm, um [1:53:43] so [1:53:44] , um, I [1:53:44] , [1:53:44] for those reasons [1:53:45] , I don't [1:53:45] support [1:53:46] this effort and I [1:53:46] think [1:53:46] it needs [1:53:47] to [1:53:48] be [1:53:49] uh thought more [1:53:49] carefully [1:53:50] . Thank you, Monica [1:53:51] . [1:53:52] Tim Mann and [1:53:52] with [1:53:52] Kathleen [1:53:53] Redman on deck [1:53:55] . I spoke [1:53:56] I [1:53:57] , I [1:53:57] spoke [1:53:57] ok. Oh [1:53:59] , you did all right [1:53:59] I'm sorry [1:54:00] , Kathleen. I [1:54:00] forgot [1:54:01] that it's good [1:54:01] . Uh [1:54:03] , [1:54:03] HeatherBuland Lea [1:54:04] . That was [1:54:04] ok [1:54:05] , [1:54:05] great, perfect [1:54:06] , it's simple [1:54:07] . [1:54:07] Darle [1:54:08] and Snipes will be out [1:54:08] on [1:54:09] deck. Thank you. Sorry [1:54:10] , Tim [1:54:10] . Uh [1:54:11] good morning [1:54:13] , commissioners. Uh [1:54:13] Tim Mann [1:54:14] , Mount [1:54:15] Vernon [1:54:15] , a [1:54:15] scheduled [1:54:16] Audubon's [1:54:17] conservation chair. I'm [1:54:17] speaking for our [1:54:18] group's [1:54:19] 500 [1:54:20] members. This is the [1:54:20] weekly [1:54:20] time [1:54:21] for [1:54:21] county [1:54:22] success stories [1:54:23] I [1:54:23] want to [1:54:24] highlight [1:54:24] the [1:54:24] success [1:54:25] of [1:54:25] Northern [1:54:25] State [1:54:26] Recreation [1:54:27] Area [1:54:27] . 24 [1:54:28] years ago [1:54:28] as a [1:54:29] National [1:54:29] Park [1:54:30] Service [1:54:31] employee. [1:54:31] I [1:54:31] was part of [1:54:32] the [1:54:32] large group [1:54:33] working over [1:54:33] a long [1:54:34] weekend to [1:54:34] come [1:54:35] up with [1:54:35] the ideas [1:54:36] for [1:54:36] the [1:54:37] northern [1:54:37] state [1:54:39] master plan [1:54:39] . The [1:54:40] resulting [1:54:40] plan has everything [1:54:41] from [1:54:41] a visitor [1:54:42] center [1:54:43] and [1:54:44] equestrian facility [1:54:44] to [1:54:44] a [1:54:45] campground and [1:54:45] a big complex of [1:54:46] ball fields [1:54:47] . What we [1:54:47] didn't [1:54:48] envision was [1:54:48] a veterans [1:54:49] community park [1:54:49] , the Vern [1:54:50] Sims [1:54:50] picnic shelter, the [1:54:51] terrific [1:54:52] trails built by [1:54:52] Jim [1:54:52] Taylor's [1:54:53] volunteers [1:54:53] , the [1:54:54] elaborate disc [1:54:55] golf [1:54:55] course [1:54:55] . We also [1:54:56] didn't [1:54:57] foresee that so many people [1:54:58] would come to value [1:54:58] the [1:54:59] dike [1:54:59] trail [1:54:59] around [1:55:00] Helmick [1:55:00] Field as [1:55:01] a [1:55:01] place [1:55:01] to simply [1:55:02] take [1:55:03] a quiet [1:55:03] walk in [1:55:03] a [1:55:04] natural setting [1:55:04] . And [1:55:05] of course we [1:55:06] didn't foresee [1:55:06] that [1:55:06] the [1:55:07] field, together with [1:55:07] the [1:55:08] adjacent [1:55:08] wetland would [1:55:09] become the [1:55:09] best [1:55:10] habitat over [1:55:10] a [1:55:11] wide area for [1:55:12] the [1:55:13] reclusive [1:55:13] declining [1:55:14] and [1:55:14] spectacular [1:55:15] American veteran [1:55:16] . The county [1:55:17] lacked money for all [1:55:17] the [1:55:18] planned developments. So [1:55:20] what [1:55:20] happened instead was [1:55:21] an [1:55:22] organic [1:55:23] evolution whereby people with [1:55:23] many [1:55:24] different [1:55:25] interests [1:55:25] discovered and came to [1:55:26] love [1:55:26] the [1:55:27] park just [1:55:27] as [1:55:27] it is [1:55:28] with [1:55:28] those [1:55:29] few [1:55:29] carefully [1:55:30] considered [1:55:30] developments [1:55:32] . There are few [1:55:32] places in [1:55:34] Skagit County where [1:55:35] many people can [1:55:35] simply take [1:55:35] a [1:55:36] walk in a [1:55:37] natural setting close [1:55:37] to [1:55:38] home. For [1:55:38] those of [1:55:39] us who [1:55:40] care about birds and [1:55:40] other [1:55:40] wildlife [1:55:41] , their presence is [1:55:42] a [1:55:42] big [1:55:43] bonus [1:55:43] . We're proud to live [1:55:44] in a [1:55:44] county [1:55:45] that [1:55:45] values [1:55:46] wildlife habitat [1:55:47] and that [1:55:47] cares [1:55:47] about [1:55:48] the [1:55:48] healthful [1:55:49] effects [1:55:49] of [1:55:50] time [1:55:50] spent in nature [1:55:51] . There [1:55:51] are [1:55:52] many places in Cedral Wooley [1:55:53] Ball fields could [1:55:54] be built. [1:55:54] They would [1:55:55] improve [1:55:56] those long [1:55:56] vacant [1:55:58] industrial lots [1:55:58] . Had [1:55:59] Northern State [1:55:59] , Ball fields [1:56:01] would displace the enjoyment [1:56:02] of [1:56:02] people who [1:56:03] for the [1:56:03] last [1:56:04] quarter [1:56:04] century [1:56:05] have been [1:56:05] walking [1:56:05] around [1:56:06] Helmick Field [1:56:06] to simply [1:56:07] get a [1:56:07] taste [1:56:08] of [1:56:08] nature [1:56:09] . They [1:56:09] are [1:56:10] stakeholders [1:56:10] in their [1:56:11] county [1:56:11] park [1:56:12] , and [1:56:12] their [1:56:13] experience [1:56:13] deserves to [1:56:14] be [1:56:15] respected. Thank [1:56:15] you [1:56:15] . Thanks [1:56:16] , Jim [1:56:16] . Perfect [1:56:16] . [1:56:17] Darlene Snipes, and then [1:56:18] David [1:56:19] Bartholomeuss. I don't use [1:56:20] . [1:56:21] David? Yeah. Ok Great [1:56:23] . Darlene [1:56:24] Snipes [1:56:25] Nope [1:56:25] . Nope [1:56:25] . Ok. It [1:56:26] looks [1:56:27] like [1:56:28] we're winding it down [1:56:29] . Ron [1:56:29] Peterson [1:56:32] . You ok, Ron [1:56:32] Uh [1:56:34] , Keith [1:56:34] Wiggins [1:56:36] And [1:56:36] then [1:56:37] after [1:56:37] Keith on [1:56:37] deck [1:56:39] , Tonya Wills [1:56:40] . You don't [1:56:41] don't ok [1:56:41] Thank you [1:56:43] . I'm [1:56:44] Keith [1:56:45] Wieters Burlington [1:56:46] . And this [1:56:46] is [1:56:46] impromptu [1:56:47] I do [1:56:48] have [1:56:49] sympathy [1:56:50] and understand the concerns of [1:56:51] the people who want the [1:56:52] ball [1:56:52] field at [1:56:53] Northern [1:56:54] State and [1:56:55] it's really great for [1:56:55] kids and [1:56:55] he [1:56:56] teaches [1:56:57] them mostly [1:56:57] good [1:56:57] sportsmanship. Every once in a [1:56:58] while you hear about [1:56:58] the [1:56:59] parents fighting in the stands [1:57:00] , [1:57:00] but [1:57:01] that doesn't happen too [1:57:02] often, does it? Probably [1:57:02] doesn't ever [1:57:03] happen here, but I [1:57:04] do [1:57:04] have concern [1:57:06] , um, I do [1:57:06] agree [1:57:07] with the [1:57:08] , uh, it [1:57:08] probably will [1:57:08] impact [1:57:09] a bidders [1:57:10] , and that's [1:57:11] a [1:57:11] problem [1:57:12] . I know they're [1:57:12] not [1:57:13] endangered [1:57:14] , but everything, [1:57:14] almost [1:57:15] all birds [1:57:16] are [1:57:16] diminishing [1:57:16] . You [1:57:17] know, [1:57:17] everybody says, well, they can [1:57:18] go someplace else [1:57:19] , but usually [1:57:19] there [1:57:20] someplace [1:57:20] elses [1:57:21] are [1:57:21] disappearing [1:57:22] also. So like [1:57:22] having our [1:57:23] house burned [1:57:23] down [1:57:23] and [1:57:24] no insurance [1:57:24] and no [1:57:25] support [1:57:25] group, where [1:57:26] do you go [1:57:26] ? They [1:57:26] just [1:57:27] don't make [1:57:27] it anymore [1:57:28] . But [1:57:29] besides that, I [1:57:30] have a [1:57:30] concern [1:57:31] about [1:57:32] um always [1:57:33] support [1:57:33] partnerships, county and the [1:57:35] cities [1:57:35] and everybody else [1:57:36] . I [1:57:36] always [1:57:36] worry [1:57:37] on [1:57:37] how [1:57:37] those [1:57:38] relationships go. I [1:57:39] don't [1:57:39] want [1:57:40] to see [1:57:40] more burden [1:57:41] being [1:57:42] shifted off to [1:57:42] the [1:57:43] county [1:57:44] probably MAY not [1:57:44] happen early [1:57:44] on [1:57:45] , but [1:57:46] later [1:57:46] on the [1:57:46] county has [1:57:47] to spend more and [1:57:47] more money on [1:57:48] it, more [1:57:49] and more time [1:57:50] , and [1:57:50] I [1:57:50] think [1:57:51] the parts department, the [1:57:52] county [1:57:53] park departments [1:57:53] are [1:57:54] already [1:57:55] pretty [1:57:56] well burdened, [1:57:56] and I think they [1:57:57] have [1:57:57] more [1:57:58] important places that [1:57:58] they want [1:57:59] to [1:57:59] spend time [1:58:00] Big Rock [1:58:00] , for [1:58:01] instance [1:58:02] , um, so I [1:58:03] wouldn't [1:58:03] have [1:58:03] , wouldn't [1:58:04] want [1:58:05] that [1:58:05] responsibility to [1:58:06] be [1:58:07] shifted [1:58:07] over [1:58:08] . I [1:58:08] don't [1:58:08] know [1:58:09] personally [1:58:09] where other [1:58:09] opportunities are, [1:58:10] but I've been told there are [1:58:10] some [1:58:11] other [1:58:11] opportunities, maybe [1:58:12] not all in [1:58:12] one place [1:58:13] , maybe [1:58:13] have to have [1:58:13] a belt [1:58:14] , um, ball [1:58:14] field [1:58:15] here in ball field there [1:58:16] . [1:58:16] Some [1:58:17] ways that [1:58:17] might [1:58:18] be better [1:58:20] . [1:58:20] There's one of [1:58:21] the [1:58:22] important [1:58:23] and Tim just brought [1:58:23] up [1:58:23] something [1:58:24] too that [1:58:24] I think [1:58:24] is [1:58:27] really important just like [1:58:28] nesting habitat for [1:58:29] birds that [1:58:30] if they're removed [1:58:30] , they're [1:58:31] gone [1:58:31] . They [1:58:31] are [1:58:32] not [1:58:32] many [1:58:33] quiet [1:58:34] places that people go out and [1:58:35] take [1:58:35] a walk [1:58:36] , and [1:58:36] that's [1:58:37] really [1:58:39] important and [1:58:40] as mentioned [1:58:41] , [1:58:42] lots of people who are out [1:58:42] there. I have a friend who used [1:58:43] to treat [1:58:46] , uh, um, track [1:58:46] or [1:58:47] uh [1:58:48] his schoolgirls, they go [1:58:49] there, [1:58:50] the, what you [1:58:50] call it [1:58:52] , frisbee [1:58:52] golf [1:58:53] , horse riding [1:58:53] , our [1:58:54] neighborhood, we just talked to [1:58:54] our neighbor about this [1:58:55] just [1:58:56] yesterday and she said [1:58:56] , that's [1:58:57] so nice. You out [1:58:57] there's no [1:58:57] crowds [1:58:58] . It's [1:58:59] quiet. There's [1:58:59] not [1:58:59] many [1:59:00] places [1:59:00] like that [1:59:01] , and [1:59:01] I [1:59:02] think [1:59:03] that's probably [1:59:04] my [1:59:05] biggest [1:59:05] argument is [1:59:06] you just [1:59:06] take [1:59:07] that away [1:59:07] . There is [1:59:08] no [1:59:09] other place just [1:59:09] like you, like [1:59:09] I say [1:59:10] , you did [1:59:10] take [1:59:11] a nesting [1:59:11] area away [1:59:12] There isn't another [1:59:13] place to [1:59:13] go, and [1:59:13] that's [1:59:14] disappearing rapidly. So [1:59:14] I'd [1:59:15] , [1:59:15] I'd really like [1:59:16] to [1:59:17] see [1:59:17] encourage trying [1:59:18] to find [1:59:18] an [1:59:19] alternative [1:59:19] to it [1:59:20] . It [1:59:20] just [1:59:21] would [1:59:21] change the [1:59:21] whole tenure [1:59:22] of [1:59:23] that area [1:59:23] . Thank you [1:59:25] . All [1:59:26] right. And finally [1:59:27] , before we [1:59:28] go back to Online [1:59:28] , uh, Keith [1:59:29] Wiggins [1:59:30] . He [1:59:31] you [1:59:32] , oh, I was [1:59:32] how [1:59:33] you, I thought you were Dale [1:59:34] . [1:59:35] Ron [1:59:36] . Ok. Then [1:59:37] , we are done with [1:59:37] this. We can move [1:59:38] back to [1:59:39] , uh, [1:59:40] Tessa Wheson in charge [1:59:41] . So [1:59:41] online, is there anybody I'd [1:59:42] like to [1:59:42] comment [1:59:43] on the [1:59:44] baseball [1:59:45] proposal [1:59:46] ? Go ahead [1:59:48] Is [1:59:50] that me [1:59:50] ? [1:59:50] Yep [1:59:52] All right, commissioners, [1:59:53] uh, thank you for [1:59:53] the [1:59:53] opportunity [1:59:54] to speak [1:59:54] today. Uh, [1:59:55] my name is [1:59:56] Nathan Salsina [1:59:56] . I've [1:59:57] worked for the city [1:59:57] of [1:59:58] Cedarulley for [1:59:58] the [1:59:59] past [2:00:00] 25 [2:00:00] years and [2:00:00] have served [2:00:01] as [2:00:01] parks [2:00:02] manager for the [2:00:02] past [2:00:02] 13 years [2:00:03] . [2:00:04] I also served on the [2:00:04] county's [2:00:06] parks advisory board [2:00:06] from [2:00:06] 2004 [2:00:08] to [2:00:08] 2008 [2:00:09] . I've submitted my [2:00:09] formal comments [2:00:10] by email [2:00:10] for [2:00:11] inclusion in your [2:00:11] public record [2:00:12] but I'd [2:00:13] like [2:00:13] to [2:00:14] highlight just [2:00:14] a [2:00:15] few [2:00:15] important points [2:00:17] . Uh [2:00:17] , the [2:00:18] current Skagit County Parks [2:00:19] and [2:00:20] Recreation Comprehensive Plan [2:00:21] was adopted in APRIL [2:00:23] of 2022 [2:00:23] . [2:00:24] And although only a few years [2:00:24] have passed, it remains [2:00:25] the [2:00:26] county's [2:00:26] guiding [2:00:26] policy [2:00:27] document for parks [2:00:28] and [2:00:28] recreation planning [2:00:29] . [2:00:30] Comprehensive plans [2:00:30] are [2:00:31] intended to guide the [2:00:31] decisions [2:00:32] we make as [2:00:33] public officials [2:00:33] . [2:00:33] And [2:00:33] I believe [2:00:34] it's important [2:00:34] that [2:00:35] our [2:00:35] actions [2:00:35] remain [2:00:36] consistent with the policies [2:00:36] that we've [2:00:37] already adopted [2:00:38] . I'd [2:00:38] like [2:00:39] to briefly reference [2:00:40] several pages from [2:00:40] the plan [2:00:42] . On [2:00:43] pages 3-11, the [2:00:43] plan states, [2:00:43] and [2:00:45] I quote [2:00:45] , in [2:00:45] 2001 [2:00:46] , a master [2:00:46] plan was [2:00:47] created [2:00:47] for long [2:00:47] range [2:00:48] goals [2:00:48] , including [2:00:49] trails [2:00:49] , ball [2:00:49] fields [2:00:50] , campgrounds [2:00:51] , and [2:00:51] equestrian center [2:00:52] , [2:00:52] Environmental [2:00:53] education [2:00:53] , [2:00:53] interpretive sites, and [2:00:54] a [2:00:55] restored alluvial fan [2:00:56] . On [2:00:57] page [2:00:58] 5-9 under [2:00:58] athletic facility [2:00:59] goals [2:01:00] . The plan states that the [2:01:00] county should [2:01:02] pursue [2:01:03] partnerships with local [2:01:03] cities [2:01:04] , [2:01:04] school [2:01:04] districts [2:01:05] , special [2:01:06] service districts, and [2:01:07] qualified nonprofit [2:01:08] organizations [2:01:09] to provide [2:01:09] youth [2:01:09] and [2:01:10] athletic [2:01:11] , uh, youth and [2:01:11] adult [2:01:12] athletic facilities [2:01:13] . On [2:01:14] page 9-12, the [2:01:14] plan [2:01:15] recognizes [2:01:16] that reduced county [2:01:16] staff will [2:01:17] not allow [2:01:18] for the [2:01:18] maintenance [2:01:19] of additional ball fields [2:01:20] without a [2:01:20] third [2:01:21] party agreement [2:01:22] Uh [2:01:22] , this [2:01:22] is precisely [2:01:23] the type [2:01:23] of [2:01:24] partnership agreement [2:01:25] that [2:01:25] we're currently discussing [2:01:27] . On [2:01:27] page [2:01:27] 10-9 [2:01:29] under [2:01:29] park [2:01:29] Development, the [2:01:30] document [2:01:30] identifies [2:01:31] trail systems and [2:01:32] a [2:01:32] baseball [2:01:34] slash softball [2:01:34] complex [2:01:34] among [2:01:36] the [2:01:37] recommended [2:01:37] capital [2:01:38] facilities [2:01:38] for [2:01:39] northern state [2:01:39] wreck area [2:01:40] . On [2:01:41] page 10-17, the [2:01:42] Klan recommends [2:01:42] that [2:01:42] the [2:01:43] county [2:01:43] should [2:01:43] continue [2:01:44] to [2:01:44] support [2:01:45] agencies that are making [2:01:46] efforts to [2:01:46] create new [2:01:47] ball [2:01:48] fields [2:01:48] . And finally [2:01:48] , on [2:01:49] page [2:01:50] 10-18, the [2:01:50] plan [2:01:51] specifically [2:01:52] identifies northern state [2:01:52] recreation area. Master [2:01:53] plan [2:01:53] is [2:01:54] including [2:01:55] land dedicated [2:01:55] for [2:01:56] youth [2:01:56] and [2:01:57] adult [2:01:58] sports fields [2:01:58] . [2:01:58] The plan [2:01:59] and [2:01:59] Vision [2:01:59] Park [2:02:00] envisions [2:02:00] parking [2:02:01] , restrooms [2:02:01] , [2:02:02] concessions [2:02:03] , maintenance [2:02:03] facilities [2:02:04] , picnic [2:02:04] areas [2:02:05] , 5 [2:02:06] ball fields [2:02:06] , 4 [2:02:06] youth [2:02:07] ball [2:02:07] fields [2:02:08] , 1 [2:02:08] to [2:02:10] ,, and [2:02:10] one adult [2:02:10] baseball [2:02:11] field [2:02:11] and the [2:02:12] supporting infrastructure [2:02:13] . [2:02:13] Commissioners, these are [2:02:13] not my [2:02:14] words. These are [2:02:14] the [2:02:15] county's [2:02:15] own [2:02:16] adopted policies and vision [2:02:17] for the future [2:02:18] . They [2:02:18] were [2:02:19] adopted just a [2:02:19] few years ago [2:02:20] and remained [2:02:20] the most [2:02:21] current [2:02:22] comprehensive plan governing [2:02:22] parks [2:02:24] and recreation policy in [2:02:25] Sedge [2:02:25] County. 6 [2:02:26] of [2:02:26] the nine [2:02:26] parks and [2:02:28] recreation advisory [2:02:29] Board members that approved [2:02:29] this plan are [2:02:30] still [2:02:31] serving [2:02:31] , [2:02:31] including Board [2:02:32] number 10 man [2:02:34] . [2:02:34] I [2:02:34] respectfully ask [2:02:35] that [2:02:35] you [2:02:35] support [2:02:36] the [2:02:36] county's [2:02:37] own [2:02:37] adopted plan [2:02:38] . Honor [2:02:39] the [2:02:39] commitments it makes to [2:02:40] our [2:02:41] community and work [2:02:41] with [2:02:42] us to [2:02:42] make [2:02:43] this [2:02:44] long-standing vision [2:02:44] a reality [2:02:45] . Thank you [2:02:45] for your [2:02:45] time [2:02:47] Thank you [2:02:48] Is [2:02:48] there [2:02:50] anybody [2:02:50] else online, Paul [2:02:55] ? Yes, thank [2:02:55] you. Um [2:02:57] , I'm [2:02:57] a [2:02:57] member [2:02:59] of [2:02:59] Cedar [2:02:59] Woolley [2:03:00] City Council, and when [2:03:01] this was [2:03:02] discussed at the [2:03:02] council [2:03:03] , I voted [2:03:04] against it [2:03:04] , [2:03:05] and [2:03:05] the [2:03:06] reason is [2:03:06] , is [2:03:06] that [2:03:07] there's a [2:03:08] better alternative [2:03:09] at [2:03:10] Winniehauser [2:03:11] Parkub the [2:03:11] city [2:03:12] public [2:03:13] works several [2:03:13] months [2:03:13] ago [2:03:14] after [2:03:14] the flooding [2:03:15] at [2:03:16] Riverfront [2:03:16] showed us [2:03:17] a [2:03:17] diagram [2:03:18] of 4 [2:03:18] ball [2:03:19] fields [2:03:19] there [2:03:20] , and [2:03:21] I [2:03:22] asked during [2:03:22] the [2:03:23] meeting [2:03:23] why [2:03:24] that [2:03:25] proposal was [2:03:25] being [2:03:26] scrapped in [2:03:26] uh [2:03:28] and [2:03:28] , and use [2:03:28] and [2:03:29] the northern state [2:03:29] was [2:03:30] instead [2:03:30] , [2:03:30] I'm a [2:03:31] big proponent [2:03:31] of [2:03:31] you fall [2:03:32] fields. I [2:03:33] was literally [2:03:34] soccer [2:03:34] and [2:03:35] basketball coach and [2:03:36] Cedar [2:03:36] only [2:03:36] for over [2:03:37] 12 years [2:03:38] , all [2:03:38] with [2:03:38] kids [2:03:39] in the [2:03:39] , in [2:03:40] town, and [2:03:40] I think [2:03:41] the kids would [2:03:41] be [2:03:43] better [2:03:44] served by [2:03:44] going [2:03:45] to a [2:03:45] ball field [2:03:46] at Winny [2:03:46] house where [2:03:47] they can [2:03:47] ride [2:03:48] their [2:03:48] bikes [2:03:48] . [2:03:49] There's some [2:03:50] kids that [2:03:50] don't [2:03:51] have transportation [2:03:52] . I [2:03:52] , when I [2:03:53] was [2:03:54] a basketball coach [2:03:54] , I used [2:03:55] to give [2:03:55] kids rides [2:03:56] cause [2:03:56] their [2:03:57] parents couldn't get them [2:03:57] places. And I [2:03:58] , I [2:03:58] know [2:03:58] our [2:03:59] coaches still [2:03:59] do that [2:03:59] , but [2:03:59] I [2:04:00] really think that [2:04:00] the [2:04:01] Winniehauser site is in town [2:04:02] . [2:04:02] It'll be [2:04:03] safer [2:04:04] . Our [2:04:04] public [2:04:05] works [2:04:05] department [2:04:05] has [2:04:06] already [2:04:07] proposed [2:04:07] for [2:04:08] ball [2:04:08] fields there [2:04:08] . [2:04:09] I don't [2:04:09] see the [2:04:09] point [2:04:10] of going [2:04:11] , [2:04:11] leaving [2:04:12] the city to [2:04:12] go up [2:04:13] into [2:04:13] the county off [2:04:14] a [2:04:15] highway 20 [2:04:15] . It [2:04:16] just doesn't [2:04:16] seem [2:04:16] workable to [2:04:17] me [2:04:17] , and I'm [2:04:18] not [2:04:19] sure why [2:04:20] that [2:04:20] original [2:04:21] proposal [2:04:21] was rejected [2:04:21] . [2:04:22] Thank [2:04:22] you [2:04:23] very much [2:04:23] . Thank you [2:04:25] Is there anybody [2:04:25] else online [2:04:26] like to comment [2:04:29] ? Anybody else [2:04:29] online [2:04:33] Anybody else in the room [2:04:34] that didn't get to comment [2:04:36] ? [2:04:37] Yeah, go ahead [2:04:47] Jessica [2:04:47] Fitzpatrick [2:04:48] , uh, uh, I live in [2:04:50] Mount Vernon. Um [2:04:50] , I've [2:04:51] grown to [2:04:52] I've become [2:04:52] an [2:04:53] auto Audubon [2:04:54] member since I moved [2:04:55] to [2:04:55] Washington. Uh, I [2:04:56] moved [2:04:56] to [2:04:56] Washington [2:04:57] because [2:04:59] Washington [2:04:59] values the [2:05:00] environment, and [2:05:00] I [2:05:01] don't want [2:05:01] to [2:05:01] see [2:05:02] my children [2:05:02] grow and [2:05:03] my grandchildren [2:05:03] grow [2:05:03] into [2:05:04] a world [2:05:04] where they [2:05:05] can't [2:05:05] breathe. Um [2:05:06] I [2:05:06] also am [2:05:07] a [2:05:08] healthcare worker, and one of [2:05:08] the [2:05:09] things that I [2:05:10] consistently [2:05:10] recommend [2:05:11] my [2:05:12] patients do is to [2:05:13] get [2:05:13] outside [2:05:14] , uh, the [2:05:14] , the [2:05:15] data [2:05:15] for [2:05:16] people [2:05:17] being outside [2:05:17] and [2:05:17] doing [2:05:18] things [2:05:18] consistently [2:05:19] outside [2:05:19] has [2:05:20] shown cardiac [2:05:20] , [2:05:20] brain [2:05:21] , mental [2:05:22] health benefits [2:05:23] , [2:05:23] and being able [2:05:23] to provide [2:05:24] a [2:05:24] place [2:05:25] that [2:05:26] is [2:05:27] handicap [2:05:27] accessible [2:05:28] is [2:05:29] significant [2:05:29] . Um [2:05:30] , [2:05:30] Northern [2:05:30] State [2:05:31] offers that [2:05:32] , and [2:05:32] the peace [2:05:33] and [2:05:34] the quiet [2:05:35] , um, [2:05:35] the number [2:05:35] of [2:05:36] quiet places in [2:05:37] the [2:05:37] world is dras [2:05:38] t [2:05:38] ically [2:05:39] reducing. Um, you can listen [2:05:39] to [2:05:40] the Wild [2:05:40] podcast with [2:05:40] Chris [2:05:41] Morgan. He [2:05:41] outlines [2:05:42] this [2:05:42] perfectly once again [2:05:42] , a [2:05:43] conservationist out [2:05:44] of [2:05:45] Bellingham. All [2:05:45] of my [2:05:46] children [2:05:46] played sports. They [2:05:47] all [2:05:47] played [2:05:47] ball, and [2:05:48] I love [2:05:48] it [2:05:49] . I loved [2:05:49] that they [2:05:50] had [2:05:50] that experience [2:05:51] and it provided [2:05:52] them [2:05:52] with [2:05:52] critical [2:05:53] tools to help [2:05:53] them [2:05:53] all [2:05:54] throughout life [2:05:55] . But [2:05:55] I would [2:05:56] never have [2:05:57] encouraged them to [2:05:57] do that at [2:05:57] the cost [2:05:58] of [2:05:59] the [2:06:00] preservation of [2:06:00] something wild [2:06:01] and beautiful [2:06:02] . I [2:06:02] , uh, I [2:06:03] hope [2:06:04] that there is [2:06:04] another option. [2:06:04] Um, I [2:06:06] would love [2:06:06] to see [2:06:07] both [2:06:08] the wildlife gained from [2:06:09] this, [2:06:09] as well as [2:06:10] the children [2:06:11] . Thank [2:06:11] you [2:06:13] Anybody else in the room [2:06:15] to [2:06:15] comment [2:06:17] ? It [2:06:22] Troy [2:06:23] Hansen [2:06:24] Cedroley [2:06:24] , um [2:06:26] , talking [2:06:27] about [2:06:27] wild and scenic, and I [2:06:28] , I [2:06:29] totally agree with it [2:06:31] . For 100 [2:06:31] years that was [2:06:32] Northern [2:06:33] state's [2:06:33] cow fields [2:06:34] . And [2:06:35] it was [2:06:35] Northern [2:06:36] states Gardens, and [2:06:37] states [2:06:38] orchards. We ripped all [2:06:38] those [2:06:39] out to make [2:06:40] alluvial [2:06:40] fan [2:06:40] wetlands [2:06:42] I think [2:06:42] it's great [2:06:42] . We [2:06:43] were told I actually work for [2:06:44] the county when we [2:06:44] were that [2:06:45] project was going on [2:06:45] . I just [2:06:46] got out [2:06:47] of college [2:06:47] . We [2:06:47] were [2:06:48] told that that was [2:06:49] going [2:06:49] to [2:06:50] help with [2:06:50] flood [2:06:51] control and [2:06:52] salmon [2:06:52] production. Kind of [2:06:53] wondering where we are on that [2:06:55] . [2:06:56] Snooker down. We still [2:06:56] have [2:06:56] flooding [2:06:58] . Um [2:06:58] , I [2:06:58] ran cows up [2:06:59] there [2:07:01] , beef cows, when I was [2:07:01] in [2:07:01] 8th [2:07:02] grade, we [2:07:02] hate [2:07:03] those [2:07:03] fields [2:07:04] So [2:07:04] , to say that [2:07:05] is a [2:07:05] natural [2:07:06] pristine wetland what [2:07:06] I've been [2:07:07] hearing in [2:07:07] the public [2:07:07] . It's not [2:07:08] true. It was finished [2:07:10] in [2:07:10] 2008 [2:07:11] . [2:07:12] 4 earthmother tractors are out [2:07:12] there scraping for [2:07:13] 2 years [2:07:14] straight to [2:07:14] make that [2:07:14] . That [2:07:15] doesn't take [2:07:16] away [2:07:16] what has [2:07:16] come [2:07:17] out there [2:07:18] , but [2:07:18] I [2:07:18] also [2:07:18] don't see [2:07:19] anything in [2:07:20] these plans where [2:07:20] it [2:07:21] says baseball fields are [2:07:21] going [2:07:22] into [2:07:23] critical areas [2:07:23] . [2:07:23] Louisville [2:07:23] fan wetland [2:07:25] . Um [2:07:26] , to [2:07:27] go [2:07:27] take [2:07:28] another step [2:07:29] , the [2:07:30] Winniehauser fields, I feel [2:07:31] aren't [2:07:31] big enough. Also [2:07:32] , you [2:07:32] have [2:07:32] a railroad [2:07:33] track right [2:07:33] there [2:07:33] on [2:07:34] Highway 20 [2:07:34] . So [2:07:35] kids [2:07:35] riding [2:07:35] their bikes [2:07:36] to [2:07:36] Winnie [2:07:37] Hauser [2:07:37] , crossing [2:07:38] a railroad [2:07:38] track, Highway 20 [2:07:39] , if they come [2:07:39] in from the other way [2:07:40] , roads, [2:07:40] road, they [2:07:40] have to [2:07:41] cross [2:07:41] Highway 9 [2:07:42] at a roundabout [2:07:44] . Both [2:07:44] are heavy traffic areas [2:07:45] I'm [2:07:45] also a firefighter in [2:07:46] Cedar [2:07:46] Wooley [2:07:47] . I've [2:07:48] responded to [2:07:48] calls [2:07:48] on [2:07:49] Highway 20 and [2:07:49] from the [2:07:50] Northern state [2:07:50] Helme Road [2:07:51] , [2:07:52] they've been fewer and [2:07:52] far [2:07:53] between, but I can tell you [2:07:54] the [2:07:54] last [2:07:55] two accidents I've [2:07:55] been [2:07:56] out there [2:07:56] . Cars have [2:07:56] been [2:07:57] floating in [2:07:57] the wetland [2:07:58] People [2:07:59] ran off the road [2:07:59] and ran [2:07:59] into [2:08:00] the pond. We [2:08:01] fished one person [2:08:01] out last winter [2:08:03] . Um [2:08:05] and [2:08:05] then to [2:08:06] back another part, talking [2:08:06] about our children [2:08:08] . We hear [2:08:09] so [2:08:10] much complaints about [2:08:10] children's [2:08:12] time [2:08:13] on screens [2:08:13] and [2:08:14] children not getting out and [2:08:14] getting to [2:08:15] enjoy those [2:08:15] those [2:08:16] wild areas [2:08:21] . This [2:08:22] is why is [2:08:22] this [2:08:22] not a good investment [2:08:23] ? My [2:08:24] father-in-law has been [2:08:24] involved [2:08:26] with having these fields for [2:08:26] the [2:08:26] last 35 [2:08:27] years talking about [2:08:27] it [2:08:28] . No [2:08:28] one cared [2:08:29] back then [2:08:30] So [2:08:31] now all of a sudden we [2:08:33] care [2:08:34] over not taking away the [2:08:34] importance [2:08:35] of [2:08:35] the [2:08:36] bird [2:08:36] , but [2:08:37] also we [2:08:37] have [2:08:38] care facilities in [2:08:38] this town that are helping [2:08:39] with [2:08:40] overdoses and drugs and [2:08:40] everything else [2:08:41] . How [2:08:41] about [2:08:42] it [2:08:42] go up river and have [2:08:43] an inch [2:08:43] of [2:08:44] prevention for these [2:08:46] . I heard [2:08:46] with the [2:08:47] other facilities [2:08:48] , if [2:08:48] we save one life [2:08:49] , it's all [2:08:49] worth it [2:08:50] . Well [2:08:50] , if we [2:08:50] save [2:08:51] one [2:08:51] child from having to go [2:08:52] into [2:08:53] one of those beds [2:08:53] . Isn't [2:08:54] it [2:08:54] the [2:08:55] same, isn't [2:08:56] not worth it too [2:08:57] ? [2:08:57] So that's it. Thank you [2:08:59] Thank [2:08:59] you [2:09:01] Anybody else like to [2:09:02] comment today [2:09:04] ? All right [2:09:04] , thank [2:09:05] you [2:09:05] very much, Mr [2:09:06] . Burns [2:09:06] . Do [2:09:06] you have anything [2:09:07] on what you [2:09:07] did last [2:09:08] week or any other [2:09:09] comments? I stayed [2:09:10] busy [2:09:10] last [2:09:11] week [2:09:11] . Excuse me [2:09:12] , I still don't [2:09:12] have [2:09:13] my voice [2:09:13] completely back [2:09:13] here [2:09:15] , but last Friday [2:09:15] I went [2:09:15] and [2:09:15] did a [2:09:16] site visit [2:09:16] on [2:09:17] Bacchus [2:09:17] Creek [2:09:18] with people [2:09:18] who had [2:09:20] , uh, [2:09:20] flooding issues [2:09:22] , um, from the [2:09:22] DECEMBER [2:09:23] flood [2:09:24] event and [2:09:25] the [2:09:25] creek [2:09:26] backing up [2:09:26] and in [2:09:27] part [2:09:28] being rerouted [2:09:28] by some [2:09:29] ditch [2:09:29] work that [2:09:29] had [2:09:30] been done [2:09:31] . It [2:09:31] was [2:09:31] interesting [2:09:32] to [2:09:32] see [2:09:33] what had [2:09:33] gone [2:09:33] up [2:09:34] there [2:09:35] , gone [2:09:35] on up there [2:09:36] and [2:09:37] actually getting eyes [2:09:37] on [2:09:38] it [2:09:38] and how it is [2:09:38] , uh, filled [2:09:39] in, [2:09:39] how it [2:09:40] was changed [2:09:40] , um, so [2:09:41] I'm [2:09:42] still conferring more with [2:09:42] our [2:09:43] staff about uh what's [2:09:43] going on [2:09:43] up there [2:09:45] . Log [2:09:45] Rodeo Parade [2:09:45] , um, [2:09:46] I volunteer with them [2:09:46] each year [2:09:47] and [2:09:47] , uh, that [2:09:47] actually went [2:09:49] quite well. We did [2:09:49] some [2:09:49] changes [2:09:50] and uh it [2:09:51] was wonderful to see [2:09:51] how [2:09:52] we streamline the [2:09:53] process [2:09:54] and got a whole lot [2:09:54] of people [2:09:55] through [2:09:56] , uh, a really [2:09:56] a [2:09:57] cherished, uh, Skagit [2:09:58] County [2:09:58] event [2:10:00] , um, and I [2:10:00] think it [2:10:01] flowed [2:10:02] quite smoothly [2:10:04] . So we [2:10:04] went [2:10:05] and all did [2:10:05] a tour of [2:10:05] the [2:10:07] baker [2:10:07] , uh, dam [2:10:08] fish passage [2:10:09] , [2:10:09] and it was quite [2:10:10] neat [2:10:11] to see [2:10:11] the amount of [2:10:12] fish coming [2:10:12] into [2:10:14] that passageway [2:10:14] . Um [2:10:14] , the tribe [2:10:15] was down [2:10:16] , uh, below [2:10:16] , uh, doing [2:10:18] their [2:10:18] fishing [2:10:19] and then seeing [2:10:19] how many fish are [2:10:20] making [2:10:21] it [2:10:22] upriver still [2:10:22] . Um [2:10:24] the volume at [2:10:25] which we're, that we're flowing [2:10:25] through [2:10:26] that [2:10:27] system and the way [2:10:28] that they get them through [2:10:29] as [2:10:29] quickly [2:10:30] as possible and then [2:10:30] up [2:10:30] to [2:10:31] Baker Dam [2:10:32] . It was [2:10:32] quite neat [2:10:32] to [2:10:33] see that [2:10:34] . Um [2:10:34] , also [2:10:34] to [2:10:35] see [2:10:36] their [2:10:36] hatchery [2:10:37] and how [2:10:38] they [2:10:38] have set up [2:10:39] their processes [2:10:39] up [2:10:40] there [2:10:41] . Um [2:10:41] , it was interesting [2:10:42] to me. I'd [2:10:42] never gone [2:10:43] through a [2:10:43] hatchery. I [2:10:44] , I've seen [2:10:45] fish [2:10:45] production [2:10:46] facilities for [2:10:46] trout [2:10:47] and [2:10:47] sturgeon before [2:10:48] , but it [2:10:48] had [2:10:49] never [2:10:49] actually [2:10:50] seen something [2:10:50] where they were trying [2:10:51] to put [2:10:51] fish back [2:10:53] into the [2:10:53] , the [2:10:54] natural [2:10:54] habitat as the priority [2:10:55] And [2:10:55] so [2:10:55] it was [2:10:56] , uh, quite interesting [2:10:57] to walk through that [2:10:57] . Also did [2:10:58] a site tour [2:10:58] of [2:10:58] Home [2:10:59] Trust's [2:10:59] gadget [2:11:01] , um, did [2:11:01] their, a tour [2:11:01] of [2:11:02] their [2:11:02] Summerland [2:11:02] neighborhood [2:11:03] , and [2:11:03] then their [2:11:03] , [2:11:04] their Park [2:11:05] Street facility [2:11:05] in [2:11:06] LaConnor [2:11:07] , um, two [2:11:08] different [2:11:08] models [2:11:08] , but [2:11:10] , um, still [2:11:10] quite [2:11:11] interesting to see [2:11:11] how they [2:11:12] could [2:11:12] take [2:11:13] grants and [2:11:14] create a [2:11:14] program [2:11:14] to help [2:11:15] people who [2:11:16] normally would not be able to [2:11:16] purchase [2:11:17] a home [2:11:17] , get [2:11:17] an [2:11:18] opportunity to make that [2:11:19] first [2:11:20] purchase and [2:11:21] , uh, to [2:11:21] get a leg [2:11:22] up [2:11:22] in [2:11:23] life [2:11:24] and [2:11:25] also how [2:11:25] they [2:11:25] worked [2:11:26] with [2:11:26] other [2:11:27] agencies to [2:11:27] create [2:11:28] rentals that were [2:11:29] affordable for people in [2:11:30] the [2:11:30] area. Um [2:11:30] , so I [2:11:31] , I [2:11:31] found [2:11:31] that [2:11:32] quite interesting. It was a [2:11:32] model I had [2:11:33] not looked [2:11:33] at [2:11:34] very [2:11:35] deeply um before now [2:11:36] , so thank [2:11:36] you very much [2:11:37] . Thank [2:11:37] you, Mr [2:11:37] . [2:11:38] Browning [2:11:38] had another meeting he [2:11:38] had to [2:11:39] get to [2:11:40] , uh, or public [2:11:41] comment went [2:11:41] longer [2:11:41] than [2:11:42] expected [2:11:43] , but uh thank you [2:11:43] very [2:11:43] much [2:11:43] everybody [2:11:44] being here [2:11:45] . Uh [2:11:46] , [2:11:46] offshore went to [2:11:47] the Sitaole [2:11:47] Laga [2:11:48] rodeo parade [2:11:48] . Really [2:11:49] enjoyed that [2:11:49] . Lots [2:11:50] of [2:11:51] um people [2:11:51] a [2:11:51] lot [2:11:52] of [2:11:53] public there [2:11:53] is [2:11:54] really [2:11:54] appreciate that [2:11:55] . Um [2:11:56] , the, you [2:11:56] know [2:11:57] , 250 [2:11:58] years we've been a [2:11:58] country now [2:11:59] and it's [2:11:59] pretty [2:12:00] amazing what we've had, [2:12:00] especially if you have a chance [2:12:01] to travel around the world and [2:12:01] see what the other [2:12:02] countries [2:12:02] have [2:12:03] . We have a [2:12:03] lot to [2:12:04] be [2:12:05] grateful for what we have here. [2:12:05] Always [2:12:05] room [2:12:06] to improve [2:12:06] , but [2:12:06] we [2:12:07] do have a lot of [2:12:07] things to [2:12:08] be [2:12:08] grateful [2:12:09] for [2:12:09] and [2:12:10] moving [2:12:10] forward [2:12:10] Uh [2:12:11] , Commissioner [2:12:11] Burns [2:12:13] mentioned the [2:12:14] future [2:12:15] So Energy [2:12:16] , [2:12:17] damn tour that we did [2:12:17] up there [2:12:18] , [2:12:18] um, it was [2:12:19] really nice to [2:12:20] go [2:12:20] through [2:12:21] that [2:12:21] . I had a [2:12:22] chance to [2:12:23] go through it a [2:12:23] couple [2:12:24] times [2:12:25] before [2:12:25] , um, but [2:12:26] actually [2:12:26] see [2:12:27] the [2:12:28] um salmon [2:12:28] come through [2:12:29] and [2:12:29] they go [2:12:29] to [2:12:30] the fish elevator [2:12:31] and then they were sorting them [2:12:32] as they [2:12:32] come [2:12:33] out and [2:12:33] um it's [2:12:34] , [2:12:35] it's really interesting [2:12:35] how [2:12:35] they are [2:12:36] able to [2:12:36] use [2:12:37] the [2:12:37] genetics [2:12:37] and take [2:12:38] so many [2:12:38] , [2:12:39] depending on [2:12:39] the run [2:12:39] numbers [2:12:40] that [2:12:40] are coming in [2:12:41] , how many [2:12:41] they're [2:12:41] catching [2:12:42] and [2:12:42] um [2:12:43] bringing up to the dam [2:12:43] and how [2:12:43] many [2:12:44] they're [2:12:45] using [2:12:45] for [2:12:46] the [2:12:46] hatchery and how [2:12:47] much they're [2:12:47] just [2:12:48] letting [2:12:48] loose wild [2:12:49] in the [2:12:50] lake up there [2:12:50] . So they've [2:12:51] done [2:12:52] a amazing job [2:12:53] . I think [2:12:53] they [2:12:53] start [2:12:54] out [2:12:55] with 97 [2:12:56] fish when [2:12:57] they started [2:12:57] . They're up [2:12:58] to 80 [2:12:59] or 90,000 [2:13:00] came back last [2:13:00] year, [2:13:01] so it was [2:13:01] a huge, huge [2:13:02] increase [2:13:02] So [2:13:03] , um, what's [2:13:03] really [2:13:03] uh [2:13:04] impressive what they're [2:13:04] doing [2:13:05] and one of the things we went [2:13:06] up and looked at it because [2:13:06] that's one of the [2:13:07] things [2:13:07] Seattle [2:13:07] City [2:13:08] like with their [2:13:08] system [2:13:09] of Ross and [2:13:09] so [2:13:10] forth on [2:13:10] the upper [2:13:11] Skagget [2:13:11] . That's what [2:13:12] some type of [2:13:12] system they're [2:13:12] trying [2:13:13] to get put [2:13:14] in on that [2:13:14] . [2:13:14] So [2:13:15] that's why we [2:13:15] went up to [2:13:15] look at [2:13:16] . If there's [2:13:17] anything [2:13:18] else with that, we [2:13:18] are [2:13:19] adjourned. We'll be back in [2:13:20] session at [2:13:21] what is it [2:13:21] , 1 [2:13:22] o'clock [2:13:22] ? One o'clock. So with [2:13:23] that, we're adjourn [2:13:23] . Thank you [2:16:17] Sessions County [2:16:17] County [2:16:18] commissioners back to order as [2:16:18] the [2:16:19] left [2:16:19] one o'clock [2:16:19] on [2:16:20] July [2:16:20] 7th [2:16:20] , 2026 [2:16:21] . We [2:16:21] are [2:16:22] here [2:16:22] for [2:16:23] a [2:16:24] presentation on Sedge [2:16:24] County [2:16:25] Fair kickoff [2:16:26] , and then we [2:16:26] have [2:16:27] Ken Hanson [2:16:28] , our, what [2:16:28] are [2:16:28] you [2:16:29] calling yourself [2:16:30] now [2:16:30] ? Parks [2:16:31] recreation, fair [2:16:31] and [2:16:32] facilities [2:16:33] director. That's mouth for [2:16:33] . [2:16:33] Very good [2:16:34] . Thank you [2:16:35] , Ken. Well [2:16:36] good afternoon [2:16:37] , commissioners [2:16:37] . [2:16:37] Uh [2:16:38] , we're [2:16:39] kicking [2:16:39] off season [2:16:40] here for [2:16:40] our largest [2:16:41] event at [2:16:41] the [2:16:42] county [2:16:43] for [2:16:44] the [2:16:44] county fair [2:16:45] Uh, this [2:16:46] is really a [2:16:46] quick [2:16:46] introduction for myself, Ken [2:16:47] Hansen [2:16:49] , director of [2:16:50] Parks [2:16:50] Recreation and Fair [2:16:51] and [2:16:51] facilities [2:16:52] , um, but really the [2:16:53] show is all about [2:16:53] Eric [2:16:54] Gaither [2:16:54] here [2:16:55] . So [2:16:55] , uh, I've [2:16:56] been in [2:16:56] the [2:16:57] position a few months [2:16:57] now [2:16:58] , and [2:16:58] this [2:16:58] is [2:17:00] a huge [2:17:01] event, so [2:17:01] I'm [2:17:01] really [2:17:01] glad that [2:17:02] we [2:17:03] have staff [2:17:03] that have been working on it a [2:17:04] lot longer [2:17:04] than I have [2:17:05] , so I'm [2:17:06] just going to turn it over [2:17:06] to [2:17:07] Eric because [2:17:08] you get a [2:17:08] lot more [2:17:09] important and interesting stuff [2:17:11] Great. Uh, we [2:17:13] might add, um, [2:17:13] for those of you who are in 4h [2:17:14] , [2:17:15] uh, Ken is gonna be seen around [2:17:16] the dog [2:17:16] barn [2:17:17] because his [2:17:17] daughter is [2:17:18] in [2:17:18] the 4 on [2:17:19] 4 [2:17:19] , [2:17:20] right? Yeah, club, so he'll be [2:17:21] around the fair [2:17:22] and he's [2:17:22] no [2:17:22] stranger to the fair [2:17:23] , but [2:17:23] , uh, [2:17:23] a [2:17:24] lot [2:17:25] of details that go into [2:17:25] it. So [2:17:26] um [2:17:27] yeah, I [2:17:28] want to start [2:17:29] off, uh, commissioners, it's [2:17:30] great to be here [2:17:31] . Um [2:17:31] , you know, [2:17:31] this is [2:17:33] , I think these years [2:17:33] are starting to go together, so [2:17:34] I think this is [2:17:35] year [2:17:35] 15 [2:17:36] , so [2:17:37] it's great to have a new phase [2:17:37] , [2:17:38] Commissioner Burns up here [2:17:39] , uh, [2:17:40] you know, that kind of breaks [2:17:41] up the, the [2:17:41] , the ears aren't [2:17:42] all [2:17:42] running together, but I [2:17:43] think [2:17:43] , Commissioner Wheen, you [2:17:45] have [2:17:45] me outlasted. I think [2:17:46] every [2:17:46] year I have done this. [2:17:47] You've been [2:17:47] up here [2:17:47] . So [2:17:49] , um, it [2:17:49] goes [2:17:50] back [2:17:51] to 2011 when [2:17:51] our [2:17:52] former director [2:17:52] Bryan Adams [2:17:53] called me when I [2:17:53] was working [2:17:55] out [2:17:56] in Colorado in [2:17:56] the [2:17:56] mountains [2:17:57] , and he said [2:17:57] , How [2:17:57] would you [2:17:58] like to run [2:17:58] the fair? [2:17:59] So [2:17:59] here we are [2:18:00] , um 15 years [2:18:00] later, but it's it's an honor [2:18:01] and a privilege [2:18:01] , and [2:18:02] I enjoy [2:18:03] being here every year [2:18:03] to [2:18:03] present to you [2:18:04] guys [2:18:04] , so [2:18:05] , um, I [2:18:05] do wanna, uh, do [2:18:07] some shout [2:18:07] outs in the audience here. We [2:18:08] do have [2:18:09] , um, some of [2:18:09] our sketch [2:18:10] accounting forh members. We [2:18:11] have a couple of speakers who [2:18:12] are going to come up [2:18:13] later. Um [2:18:13] , [2:18:14] we have the Wind [2:18:14] Rider's [2:18:14] 4h [2:18:15] Horse Club [2:18:16] represented as well [2:18:16] as the beaks [2:18:17] , noses [2:18:17] and Bill's [2:18:18] Club [2:18:19] , which [2:18:20] , um, which [2:18:21] encompasses, I believe [2:18:21] a [2:18:22] couple's [2:18:23] different [2:18:23] species [2:18:24] , um, [2:18:24] and they [2:18:25] , um, their [2:18:26] club [2:18:26] is a [2:18:27] bit [2:18:28] highlighted this [2:18:28] year [2:18:28] because of [2:18:29] the theme, which [2:18:29] we'll get to [2:18:30] . So [2:18:30] , um, also, we [2:18:31] have some [2:18:31] other members of [2:18:32] the [2:18:32] audience, I think we have [2:18:34] , um, [2:18:34] Henrietta [2:18:35] , Daisy [2:18:37] , and [2:18:38] um Sonic [2:18:38] down [2:18:39] there [2:18:39] in I think [2:18:39] the [2:18:40] better half [2:18:40] of [2:18:41] our mascot [2:18:41] as [2:18:42] well [2:18:43] , so big thanks [2:18:44] everyone [2:18:44] for coming [2:18:45] . So here [2:18:46] we are [2:18:47] , uh, [2:18:48] 127 years later, the fair's [2:18:48] been gone [2:18:50] since [2:18:50] 1898 [2:18:50] . The [2:18:52] longest standing event [2:18:52] in [2:18:53] Skagget County [2:18:54] . Um [2:18:54] , the fair [2:18:54] runs off of [2:18:56] 3 [2:18:56] full-time staff. [2:18:57] Um, we also do get a lot of [2:18:59] other help. Obviously, we have [2:18:59] a [2:19:00] huge volunteer base, but [2:19:00] we [2:19:01] run out [2:19:01] 3 [2:19:02] full-time staff [2:19:03] , um, [2:19:03] as [2:19:03] well [2:19:03] as we [2:19:04] do [2:19:04] have park [2:19:04] staff [2:19:05] that comes in [2:19:05] near the [2:19:06] fair, but [2:19:07] it takes takes [2:19:07] a [2:19:08] village to [2:19:08] do it [2:19:09] . Um [2:19:10] , we also [2:19:10] have our advi [2:19:11] advisory [2:19:12] and [2:19:12] foundation board supporting us [2:19:12] , [2:19:13] so [2:19:14] both those boards [2:19:15] were not [2:19:15] really [2:19:16] active until about 2 [2:19:17] years ago. Um [2:19:19] , the advisory [2:19:19] board, um [2:19:21] was on [2:19:21] hiatus and [2:19:22] then we had some people [2:19:23] stepped [2:19:24] up to make a fairgrounds [2:19:25] foundation. So yeah, as [2:19:25] you [2:19:26] guys know [2:19:26] , um, going into, you [2:19:27] know, at [2:19:28] times where things are [2:19:28] not getting easier, it's great [2:19:29] to [2:19:30] have [2:19:30] these pieces [2:19:30] supporting [2:19:31] us [2:19:32] . Of course, alongside our [2:19:33] great [2:19:34] 4hffa [2:19:35] programs [2:19:35] , um, it's [2:19:35] just, it's a [2:19:37] real privilege to [2:19:37] have all these [2:19:38] things and we [2:19:38] have a [2:19:39] lot [2:19:39] of [2:19:40] good team spirit [2:19:42] . [2:19:42] So [2:19:44] , um, I'm gonna take one step [2:19:44] back from the [2:19:46] fair just cause [2:19:46] we get to do this [2:19:47] once a year. [2:19:47] Um [2:19:48] , and I [2:19:48] also, it's [2:19:48] also [2:19:49] good [2:19:49] information for some of the [2:19:50] people who [2:19:50] are around [2:19:51] fair and [2:19:51] um are focused [2:19:52] on fair [2:19:53] . It's [2:19:54] after all, you should be, it's [2:19:54] the Super Bowl [2:19:55] , but [2:19:55] what goes [2:19:55] on at the [2:19:56] fairgrounds year [2:19:56] round and I only [2:19:57] have the [2:19:58] pleasure of [2:19:58] doing this [2:19:58] once per [2:19:58] year [2:19:59] , so it's our [2:20:00] chance to [2:20:01] give you guys an idea of what [2:20:01] goes [2:20:01] on [2:20:02] year round [2:20:03] . So [2:20:04] , um, [2:20:04] people [2:20:04] always [2:20:05] , people often [2:20:05] wonder, you know, we [2:20:06] have up to [2:20:07] close to [2:20:07] 50 events [2:20:07] , but [2:20:08] sometimes they [2:20:08] get confused. [2:20:09] Are you running it [2:20:10] ? Are you [2:20:10] in [2:20:10] charge [2:20:11] of it [2:20:12] ? Um [2:20:12] , so [2:20:13] the fair [2:20:13] staff actually [2:20:14] runs [2:20:14] , um, you'll [2:20:15] see actually it's [2:20:15] 4 events, but [2:20:15] the [2:20:16] fair [2:20:16] staff runs 4 [2:20:17] events [2:20:17] and the [2:20:18] rest are [2:20:19] , um, mostly [2:20:20] run by third parties, so [2:20:20] there's a lot of [2:20:21] interaction, [2:20:21] of course [2:20:22] , when those [2:20:22] events [2:20:23] happen, but we're [2:20:23] the [2:20:24] main [2:20:25] driver. Um, these [2:20:25] are our [2:20:26] three [2:20:27] trademarks, which is our spring [2:20:27] and fall garage [2:20:28] sale, and [2:20:29] of [2:20:30] course [2:20:30] , the fare [2:20:31] . Um [2:20:32] the spring [2:20:33] and fall garage sales are great [2:20:34] events, you know, every [2:20:36] year we [2:20:37] um, you know, there are a lot [2:20:38] of work, but [2:20:38] they, we do have [2:20:39] it on a bit [2:20:39] of [2:20:40] a template and [2:20:41] we'd have vendors that [2:20:41] come in [2:20:42] and they are the stars of [2:20:43] the [2:20:43] show, so there is [2:20:43] , there [2:20:44] is [2:20:44] some [2:20:45] , um, a [2:20:45] lot [2:20:45] of [2:20:46] familiarity [2:20:47] that [2:20:47] we can [2:20:48] , um, lean on [2:20:48] there [2:20:48] and [2:20:49] honestly, um, you [2:20:49] know, we [2:20:50] run on a [2:20:50] business model [2:20:51] here at [2:20:52] the fairgrounds. If we had a [2:20:52] , a [2:20:54] different climate [2:20:54] . Let's say [2:20:54] we [2:20:55] lived in the South, we [2:20:55] would [2:20:56] probably [2:20:56] do another [2:20:57] garage sale [2:20:57] in JANUARY [2:20:58] or FEBRUARY [2:20:58] , but [2:20:59] uh [2:21:00] we aren't blessed with the uh [2:21:01] the weather and the [2:21:02] durable [2:21:03] surfaces. So we make do with [2:21:03] what we got [2:21:05] . Um [2:21:07] , our [2:21:07] spring [2:21:07] garage sale happened in APRIL. [2:21:08] Um, it was [2:21:09] , it's [2:21:09] always a [2:21:10] success. It happened [2:21:11] during [2:21:11] the [2:21:12] um, of course during the [2:21:12] Tulip [2:21:13] festival [2:21:14] and some people ask, [2:21:14] is that an accident that you [2:21:15] have it in [2:21:16] APRIL and [2:21:16] I haven't [2:21:17] been here 30 [2:21:17] years, but [2:21:18] , uh, [2:21:18] when [2:21:18] , when [2:21:19] the formation of [2:21:20] this event happened [2:21:20] , but I can [2:21:21] tell you it's [2:21:21] no accident that [2:21:22] it's during the Skagit Valley [2:21:22] Tulip [2:21:23] Festival [2:21:23] . So, um [2:21:24] , again [2:21:24] , [2:21:25] we had a great show this year [2:21:27] , [2:21:27] um, 200, close to 200 vendors [2:21:28] , [2:21:28] around 350 booths [2:21:30] um, and those [2:21:30] that don't come [2:21:31] that [2:21:31] money does [2:21:32] support [2:21:32] the fairgrounds in the [2:21:34] year round operations [2:21:34] , so [2:21:34] , um, [2:21:35] it all feeds [2:21:36] into [2:21:36] one another, [2:21:36] um [2:21:38] . We [2:21:39] do have another great [2:21:39] chance in the fall [2:21:40] . It's [2:21:41] the [2:21:42] sister event [2:21:43] , and [2:21:43] this [2:21:44] one gets [2:21:44] a [2:21:44] little [2:21:45] extra [2:21:45] pizzazz because [2:21:46] we have a car show [2:21:46] . So we have [2:21:46] up [2:21:48] to 200 cars [2:21:50] um, there [2:21:50] , it's [2:21:50] nice [2:21:52] . So, um [2:21:53] yeah [2:21:54] , make sure to [2:21:55] mark your calendar for that one [2:21:56] I will add to that we [2:21:57] have had [2:21:57] 4h [2:21:59] clubs raising money at some [2:21:59] of those [2:21:59] garage sales [2:22:01] , so [2:22:01] I [2:22:01] know that in the [2:22:02] small barn [2:22:03] we [2:22:04] had [2:22:04] $1000 [2:22:05] and then in the past [2:22:06] there's been up to [2:22:06] $2000 and [2:22:06] that [2:22:08] goes into um different [2:22:08] things for [2:22:10] their barn, and so [2:22:11] that's money that you know [2:22:11] those requests [2:22:12] could [2:22:12] be [2:22:13] getting [2:22:13] to the [2:22:14] fair [2:22:15] budget [2:22:15] as requested [2:22:16] but a lot of those are [2:22:17] being [2:22:17] captured at [2:22:18] , at just [2:22:18] they're [2:22:18] just taken [2:22:19] off our plate [2:22:19] and [2:22:20] they're captured by the 4h [2:22:21] clubs and I know [2:22:21] that the [2:22:21] horse [2:22:23] department especially [2:22:24] , um, [2:22:24] fundraises [2:22:25] a lot [2:22:25] for the [2:22:25] arena [2:22:26] because [2:22:26] the whole [2:22:27] surface of [2:22:28] the [2:22:28] arena [2:22:29] is pretty [2:22:29] much [2:22:30] up to [2:22:31] the [2:22:31] 4h Horse [2:22:32] Clubs and [2:22:32] their [2:22:33] budget [2:22:34] , so we're [2:22:35] always trying [2:22:35] to [2:22:35] come up with ways to [2:22:36] give 4h [2:22:36] a [2:22:37] good [2:22:37] opportunity [2:22:37] to fundraise [2:22:38] but they are the ones who are [2:22:39] really making it [2:22:39] happen, so [2:22:39] , um [2:22:40] I know, I know [2:22:41] you guys are [2:22:42] very involved. I know APRIL is [2:22:42] very involved with [2:22:43] the Horse [2:22:44] Club fundraising. So [2:22:44] we [2:22:46] do [2:22:47] appreciate that and we do try [2:22:47] to open up our [2:22:48] events to, you [2:22:48] know, make [2:22:49] hey wherever [2:22:50] we can [2:22:51] while we're already having a [2:22:51] big event going on [2:22:53] So [2:22:54] the [2:22:55] fairgrounds has always been a [2:22:56] year-round gathering place, but [2:22:57] I can tell you [2:22:58] post covid that [2:22:59] that has [2:23:00] , uh, from a [2:23:00] , a [2:23:01] , a [2:23:02] slogan that's true to [2:23:02] a [2:23:03] slogan [2:23:04] that's, that's [2:23:04] , it's something [2:23:05] we live and breathe every day [2:23:06] . [2:23:07] There's so much going on [2:23:07] . I [2:23:07] mean [2:23:07] , um we have [2:23:08] the Highland [2:23:09] Games going on at the [2:23:09] fairgrounds, and that [2:23:10] is [2:23:11] a [2:23:12] monstrous [2:23:12] event [2:23:13] . And [2:23:13] so [2:23:14] , and [2:23:15] we [2:23:15] if you [2:23:15] , if you look [2:23:16] at [2:23:16] our [2:23:16] calendar [2:23:17] , um, which I'll pull [2:23:18] up here in a [2:23:18] minute, it [2:23:18] , it [2:23:19] doesn't stop [2:23:19] . We [2:23:21] have [2:23:21] brief [2:23:22] periods [2:23:22] of quiet in [2:23:23] the winter [2:23:23] , [2:23:23] um, but [2:23:24] it's really [2:23:24] , it's [2:23:25] really great to see the [2:23:25] fairgrounds [2:23:26] utilized [2:23:27] and um [2:23:27] . [2:23:27] Yeah [2:23:28] , it's been [2:23:28] amazing post [2:23:29] covid, um [2:23:31] . So it's, it's a [2:23:32] great thing [2:23:33] . Um, some of the [2:23:34] other things here that people [2:23:34] MAY [2:23:35] not know [2:23:36] about as well as [2:23:36] people do see the [2:23:37] public [2:23:38] events [2:23:38] that go on, but [2:23:38] we have [2:23:39] a [2:23:40] racecar group that's in one of [2:23:41] our buildings for 5 months [2:23:42] in [2:23:42] the winter [2:23:43] . So anyone who's [2:23:43] looking [2:23:44] for a [2:23:45] winter hobby, [2:23:45] they do [2:23:45] carpet [2:23:46] racing [2:23:47] . Um [2:23:47] , we [2:23:47] do do [2:23:48] professional trainings [2:23:49] and things like that. We're [2:23:50] we [2:23:50] don't do a [2:23:51] ton [2:23:51] of [2:23:52] the [2:23:54] um [2:23:55] one-time private party events [2:23:55] . [2:23:56] They just don't tend [2:23:56] to be the [2:23:57] best for [2:23:57] our business model, [2:23:58] but a [2:23:58] lot [2:23:58] of [2:23:59] the business [2:23:59] we've [2:24:00] had some [2:24:00] state [2:24:01] school testing [2:24:01] in their [2:24:02] homeschool testing in [2:24:02] there. We [2:24:03] hope [2:24:04] that that stays [2:24:04] and doesn't [2:24:05] go online [2:24:05] next year [2:24:06] but [2:24:06] those are [2:24:07] great events and [2:24:07] those are the things [2:24:08] that [2:24:08] actually [2:24:08] we have a [2:24:09] little [2:24:09] more [2:24:10] bandwidth to take on [2:24:11] are [2:24:11] the [2:24:11] big [2:24:13] weekday business rentals. [2:24:14] So anyone out there who's a [2:24:14] business and you want to use [2:24:15] the fairgrounds, even [2:24:16] even [2:24:16] be [2:24:16] like a um [2:24:19] picnic in the summer [2:24:19] on a [2:24:19] Thursday for all day [2:24:20] you [2:24:21] want to rent the fairgrounds or [2:24:21] you want to do a [2:24:22] big [2:24:23] event on [2:24:23] a [2:24:23] special Tuesday [2:24:24] , Wednesdays [2:24:25] or [2:24:25] Thursdays [2:24:26] , um, we are [2:24:26] , we're [2:24:26] open [2:24:27] for business, so [2:24:29] um, and [2:24:30] then the 4h usage, so a [2:24:31] lot of [2:24:32] the barns get used for [2:24:33] practices. Again, the [2:24:34] arena [2:24:34] , um [2:24:34] is [2:24:35] the big [2:24:35] one that used [2:24:36] by 4h [2:24:37] 4 months out of the year, but [2:24:37] we also [2:24:38] have other [2:24:39] things that [2:24:39] go [2:24:39] on. Um [2:24:39] , we [2:24:41] actually had, we [2:24:41] had [2:24:41] dog clubs out [2:24:42] there and [2:24:42] they actually did [2:24:43] a fundraiser [2:24:43] to benefit [2:24:44] the fairgrounds [2:24:44] , but [2:24:44] um [2:24:46] you know, the [2:24:46] , the [2:24:46] facility [2:24:48] we always try to work for [2:24:48] hn [2:24:49] sometimes there's a [2:24:49] little bit [2:24:50] of [2:24:50] deconflicting if there's a [2:24:51] huge [2:24:52] revenue [2:24:52] generating event [2:24:53] such as there's a [2:24:53] few Fridays [2:24:53] where they [2:24:54] , the [2:24:54] horse clubs [2:24:55] can't ride on [2:24:55] Fridays because [2:24:55] there's [2:24:56] a big renter in, but a [2:24:57] lot [2:24:57] of [2:24:58] times the people [2:24:58] are [2:24:59] running [2:24:59] the grounds for a [2:25:00] full [2:25:00] rental Wednesday [2:25:01] through Sunday [2:25:01] and [2:25:02] they oftentimes [2:25:02] we can [2:25:03] still [2:25:03] get horse [2:25:03] clubs in [2:25:04] Wednesday [2:25:04] , Thursday [2:25:05] , so [2:25:06] um it's [2:25:06] a [2:25:06] huge [2:25:07] balancing act [2:25:08] , but again [2:25:08] when we [2:25:09] have, when we [2:25:09] have [2:25:10] people chipping into the [2:25:11] facility like that [2:25:12] and putting [2:25:12] money in [2:25:13] sweat equity [2:25:13] , we [2:25:14] really try [2:25:14] to do [2:25:15] that [2:25:16] and [2:25:16] after [2:25:17] all, they're prac [2:25:17] tic ing for [2:25:18] the Super Bowl and we're in [2:25:19] charge of the Super Bowl, so [2:25:19] it's kind [2:25:19] of a [2:25:20] , a cycle that [2:25:20] works out [2:25:22] . Um, another thing [2:25:22] that I would like to [2:25:23] highlight [2:25:23] is [2:25:24] 4 times a year [2:25:24] , we [2:25:24] have the [2:25:26] one [2:25:26] day offender [2:25:28] , um, program [2:25:28] with the [2:25:30] jail alternatives um [2:25:31] through the [2:25:31] sheriff's [2:25:31] office [2:25:32] and so [2:25:33] I know [2:25:33] that [2:25:33] most people [2:25:34] don't know about [2:25:35] this. We [2:25:35] do [2:25:35] have [2:25:37] , um, one [2:25:38] in typically the [2:25:38] spring, one in [2:25:39] the [2:25:39] fall [2:25:40] . We [2:25:40] have one [2:25:41] coming [2:25:41] up here [2:25:42] in [2:25:42] JULY [2:25:43] and [2:25:44] then [2:25:44] the [2:25:45] alternative staff [2:25:45] , [2:25:45] they [2:25:46] actually [2:25:47] engineered one to [2:25:47] have one [2:25:47] right after [2:25:48] the fair [2:25:49] for tear down, but I can tell [2:25:49] you [2:25:50] those JULY and [2:25:50] those [2:25:51] AUGUST [2:25:52] dates [2:25:53] , we [2:25:54] would be in a [2:25:54] world [2:25:54] of [2:25:55] hurt without [2:25:55] those, so [2:25:56] there's a lot of labor that [2:25:57] goes into that [2:25:58] , um, and I know [2:25:58] that program it [2:26:00] saves [2:26:01] incarceration time, so it's [2:26:01] , I [2:26:02] think a couple of days [2:26:02] in [2:26:02] jail. [2:26:03] People [2:26:04] work it off [2:26:05] , but if [2:26:05] that [2:26:07] program is paramount to [2:26:07] our [2:26:08] success [2:26:09] . And I [2:26:09] would just like [2:26:09] to call out [2:26:10] the staff over [2:26:11] there. They, they have been [2:26:12] super accommodating and I [2:26:13] know [2:26:13] the August [2:26:14] 1, uh, that they [2:26:15] engineered for us. I [2:26:16] know [2:26:16] that [2:26:17] the [2:26:18] um department deputies [2:26:18] , [2:26:19] they [2:26:20] , it took a hit to [2:26:20] their [2:26:21] vacation and their planning and [2:26:21] they [2:26:22] , they [2:26:22] sacrifice for us to [2:26:23] do that because they know what [2:26:23] it [2:26:24] takes to [2:26:24] put [2:26:25] together, so [2:26:26] just some of [2:26:27] the things behind [2:26:27] the scenes [2:26:29] . Um [2:26:29] , I don't have, [2:26:30] we can't go through all this, [2:26:30] but [2:26:31] here's kind of a snapshot [2:26:32] of the [2:26:33] year-round calendar [2:26:34] , um, [2:26:34] a lot going on [2:26:35] , a lot [2:26:36] going on [2:26:36] . [2:26:36] So [2:26:37] , um, we [2:26:38] do have to block out [2:26:39] the ferret a little bit [2:26:40] around [2:26:40] the fair time [2:26:41] , but [2:26:43] , um, I know [2:26:43] I've said [2:26:44] this every year, but [2:26:45] I [2:26:45] , my [2:26:45] sanity and [2:26:46] the calendar [2:26:46] , [2:26:47] I said I don't know what else [2:26:48] we can put in [2:26:48] the [2:26:49] busy season [2:26:49] , [2:26:49] but [2:26:50] , um, you know [2:26:50] , both [2:26:51] for [2:26:51] motivation [2:26:51] and this [2:26:52] is what we [2:26:53] do, this is [2:26:53] what we need [2:26:54] to do [2:26:54] , [2:26:54] and there is [2:26:55] , yes [2:26:55] , there's, [2:26:55] there's [2:26:56] , there's [2:26:57] financial [2:26:58] pressures on [2:26:58] everybody right [2:26:58] now [2:26:59] . So [2:27:00] , um, you know, if [2:27:01] someone wants to rent [2:27:01] all [2:27:01] the [2:27:02] fairgrounds in [2:27:03] late JULY [2:27:03] it, I [2:27:04] can't do the [2:27:05] whole fairgrounds, [2:27:05] but you want to do [2:27:05] a [2:27:07] camp out [2:27:08] two weeks before the fair in [2:27:08] the [2:27:08] South parking lot [2:27:09] with the [2:27:09] RVs [2:27:10] Let's play ball. It's [2:27:11] kind [2:27:12] of what we do [2:27:12] . So [2:27:14] , um, I do [2:27:14] kind of [2:27:15] question sometimes when [2:27:15] we say yes [2:27:16] to things and find [2:27:16] them in [2:27:17] later and we're in the [2:27:17] moment and [2:27:18] doing [2:27:18] 1000 things [2:27:19] , [2:27:20] but um, you [2:27:20] know, when [2:27:21] you get [2:27:21] done with [2:27:22] when you get done [2:27:22] with [2:27:22] the [2:27:23] hectic [2:27:23] season, it, you [2:27:24] kind of go [2:27:25] back and [2:27:25] I'm really [2:27:26] glad that we, we did [2:27:26] that [2:27:27] and [2:27:28] accommodated all that, so [2:27:29] , um, [2:27:30] I will say that [2:27:30] it is [2:27:30] um great. [2:27:31] I [2:27:32] know [2:27:32] commissioners [2:27:32] , you guys [2:27:33] sometimes come out to these [2:27:33] events [2:27:34] . You can look at this [2:27:35] calendar anytime. I know [2:27:37] Commissioner Burns was out [2:27:37] at [2:27:37] the [2:27:38] Washington [2:27:38] State [2:27:39] Grange [2:27:39] Convention. So that was a [2:27:40] state [2:27:40] convention that [2:27:41] we had [2:27:42] , um, I [2:27:43] know you guys [2:27:44] are probably at [2:27:45] different events, but [2:27:45] I know [2:27:46] Commissioner Wheon [2:27:46] Brown, you [2:27:47] guys are always good about [2:27:47] tending the [2:27:48] veterans event, but [2:27:48] if you guys [2:27:49] have [2:27:50] any questions [2:27:50] on [2:27:51] these events [2:27:51] or you want [2:27:52] to [2:27:52] attend them [2:27:53] , please, um [2:27:53] , reach [2:27:54] out to me and I know it's, it [2:27:54] means a lot to the people [2:27:55] that [2:27:55] that run these events [2:27:55] so [2:27:56] they're [2:27:57] they [2:27:57] span [2:27:59] , they span so [2:27:59] many [2:28:00] different things, right [2:28:00] ? I [2:28:00] mean [2:28:01] , big game [2:28:01] , big things like [2:28:02] the Highland games [2:28:04] , um, the [2:28:05] causes like the [2:28:06] veterans [2:28:06] , [2:28:06] veterans event, we [2:28:07] have [2:28:08] the [2:28:08] um [2:28:09] autism awareness event, the [2:28:10] sheriff's office puts on. We [2:28:11] have [2:28:11] the clothing [2:28:12] swap that's [2:28:12] solid [2:28:13] waste does. Those are [2:28:13] kind [2:28:14] of county [2:28:15] , um, run things, [2:28:16] but even [2:28:16] down to [2:28:17] the [2:28:18] consignment sales, which yes, [2:28:18] they're, they're running [2:28:18] the [2:28:19] business [2:28:19] and they [2:28:19] , you know, [2:28:20] they have to make a [2:28:20] profit to [2:28:21] run it [2:28:22] , but it's [2:28:22] it's [2:28:23] low [2:28:23] budget [2:28:24] you [2:28:24] know [2:28:24] , things or [2:28:25] families [2:28:26] that MAY not be able [2:28:27] to afford more [2:28:28] . So [2:28:29] , um, it [2:28:29] , we [2:28:29] are just [2:28:30] kind of [2:28:31] a [2:28:31] uh a [2:28:31] landing [2:28:32] pad for [2:28:33] so many [2:28:33] different [2:28:35] things and so [2:28:36] , um, yeah [2:28:37] , we [2:28:37] encourage [2:28:38] everyone to support [2:28:38] all these events [2:28:41] . So I [2:28:42] will [2:28:42] say [2:28:45] that um this is another great [2:28:45] event and I [2:28:46] will, I [2:28:46] will make a [2:28:47] note [2:28:47] that [2:28:48] um our assistant [2:28:49] manager, um Francis [2:28:49] , she [2:28:50] , um, [2:28:51] is out on [2:28:51] maternity leave right [2:28:52] now [2:28:53] , um, through the fair [2:28:54] , so [2:28:54] , [2:28:54] uh, I have [2:28:55] my [2:28:56] hands full and so [2:28:56] typically she would [2:28:57] talk about [2:28:57] this [2:28:58] and you would [2:28:58] actually get [2:28:59] the better half [2:28:59] of our [2:29:00] of our [2:29:00] public [2:29:01] speaking duo oh if [2:29:01] she [2:29:02] were here, but [2:29:03] , uh, I'm trying [2:29:03] to fill in [2:29:04] . So [2:29:05] , um, this is [2:29:05] , uh [2:29:06] something that got started [2:29:07] after we [2:29:07] hired Francis [2:29:08] in 2023, [2:29:09] but it was modeled [2:29:09] after [2:29:10] something [2:29:10] that [2:29:10] happened in [2:29:11] Watcombe Coun ty but it's [2:29:12] called this Gadget Farm [2:29:12] Circle [2:29:12] . [2:29:12] Um [2:29:13] , and so we [2:29:14] , we partner, we [2:29:15] , [2:29:16] Francis does the work on this [2:29:17] but partnered [2:29:18] with the [2:29:18] Western [2:29:19] Washington Agricultural [2:29:20] , um, [2:29:20] Association and so [2:29:21] we [2:29:21] bring 500 [2:29:22] 3rd graders through [2:29:23] the [2:29:24] fairgrounds. A lot [2:29:24] of it's [2:29:25] the [2:29:25] farmers are [2:29:25] there. We [2:29:25] have [2:29:26] tractors, so it's [2:29:27] very hands on [2:29:28] I know we have [2:29:28] conservation [2:29:28] district [2:29:29] . I'm going to [2:29:29] MISS A [2:29:29] bunch [2:29:30] of people [2:29:31] , but [2:29:31] it's [2:29:31] a [2:29:32] really [2:29:32] cool thing that [2:29:33] we do in [2:29:34] the [2:29:34] offseason [2:29:36] , um, and [2:29:37] I know [2:29:37] , [2:29:37] I [2:29:38] know that the [2:29:38] , that [2:29:39] the [2:29:39] farmers [2:29:39] and [2:29:40] the [2:29:41] other agencies [2:29:41] really [2:29:41] appreciate it. This is [2:29:42] one of those [2:29:42] things [2:29:43] that [2:29:43] and I [2:29:43] will point [2:29:43] out we [2:29:44] , we spent a [2:29:45] lot of time running a business [2:29:46] model. This thing [2:29:47] is no money [2:29:47] in, no [2:29:47] money out [2:29:48] for [2:29:48] us, but [2:29:49] it's [2:29:49] a [2:29:50] commitment to a lot of [2:29:50] the [2:29:51] people that [2:29:52] uphold the fair [2:29:52] and the roots of the fair is, [2:29:53] you know [2:29:54] , the agricultural [2:29:55] community and so I know [2:29:55] that a [2:29:55] lot [2:29:56] of people, and [2:29:56] you guys [2:29:57] know this, that if [2:29:57] you don't [2:29:58] feed [2:29:59] this information [2:29:59] , uh, [2:30:00] where it comes from [2:30:00] , it's [2:30:01] gonna [2:30:01] die, right [2:30:02] ? And so [2:30:02] this is a [2:30:03] really cool thing that [2:30:04] happens [2:30:04] at [2:30:04] the at [2:30:05] the fairgrounds [2:30:06] . So [2:30:06] , [2:30:06] um [2:30:07] yeah [2:30:07] . Check [2:30:08] it [2:30:08] out [2:30:09] in [2:30:10] NOVEMBER, um [2:30:11] . I [2:30:12] guess check it [2:30:12] out. It's for 3rd grade [2:30:13] students. But if you [2:30:14] want to [2:30:14] be [2:30:15] involved or a commissioner to [2:30:15] show up, it's a really [2:30:17] cool [2:30:17] thing [2:30:19] . Ok, so [2:30:21] , um, more fun [2:30:21] facts about the [2:30:23] fairground [2:30:23] . So [2:30:23] we [2:30:26] , um, did [2:30:26] get a [2:30:27] high level [2:30:27] um [2:30:28] economic impact study [2:30:28] done [2:30:29] through one of [2:30:29] the [2:30:30] International Affairs [2:30:31] Association [2:30:32] and here are [2:30:32] some [2:30:32] of [2:30:33] the results [2:30:33] . So you [2:30:33] see all [2:30:34] those [2:30:34] different events that [2:30:35] come through [2:30:36] the [2:30:37] fairgrounds [2:30:37] and the economic [2:30:38] benefit that [2:30:38] the [2:30:39] fairgrounds provides [2:30:40] , um, [2:30:40] I'll [2:30:41] , I'll let [2:30:41] the numbers do [2:30:42] the [2:30:42] talking [2:30:43] here [2:30:43] . The [2:30:44] , the [2:30:44] one [2:30:45] thing that [2:30:46] we also [2:30:46] um are [2:30:47] always trying to [2:30:48] educate [2:30:48] on and [2:30:49] try and [2:30:50] draw attention to is [2:30:50] that [2:30:51] the fairgrounds, while we [2:30:52] do get support from the county [2:30:53] in many ways, and we [2:30:54] are, we [2:30:55] are so much better being a part [2:30:56] of the county than on [2:30:56] our own [2:30:57] as a [2:30:57] nonprofit that the [2:30:58] fairgrounds [2:30:59] . Has not [2:31:01] and dare I [2:31:02] say probably will not receive [2:31:02] general funds [2:31:04] for many years to [2:31:04] come [2:31:06] . So it's been like that [2:31:08] since 2009. So all [2:31:08] of [2:31:08] this [2:31:09] impact is [2:31:10] happening [2:31:10] without any [2:31:11] general funds [2:31:12] going to [2:31:13] operations and so [2:31:15] , um, and [2:31:15] that [2:31:15] includes all [2:31:16] of our [2:31:17] annual [2:31:18] operating costs and so [2:31:18] oftentimes when I'm [2:31:19] having [2:31:20] conversations they're going, oh [2:31:20] but [2:31:20] you know [2:31:22] are you [2:31:23] , but [2:31:23] you're paid by the [2:31:24] count the [2:31:24] staff, and it's like, oh, we [2:31:24] are [2:31:26] very supported by the [2:31:27] county and we appreciate that, [2:31:27] but no, we [2:31:28] are not [2:31:28] . So all [2:31:29] the [2:31:29] staffing and all that [2:31:31] is [2:31:31] paid [2:31:32] by revenues at [2:31:33] the fairgrounds, [2:31:33] and [2:31:34] and [2:31:35] so that's kind of the [2:31:36] story that we try and [2:31:37] keep [2:31:38] telling. And so I know we're [2:31:38] going into a difficult [2:31:39] budget [2:31:40] season too as well, and [2:31:41] there's [2:31:42] you, everyone's going to see [2:31:43] things and it's hard [2:31:43] . Programs [2:31:43] are going [2:31:44] to get cut [2:31:44] and things [2:31:45] like that [2:31:45] , but we're [2:31:46] the reason [2:31:47] why we're still standing [2:31:48] is [2:31:49] because we're able to do [2:31:49] that, [2:31:50] you know, with [2:31:51] the [2:31:51] revenues [2:31:52] that we [2:31:52] , that we make [2:31:53] and so [2:31:54] everyone's got a [2:31:54] cause right [2:31:55] now. I [2:31:56] know that [2:31:56] you guys are [2:31:57] , [2:31:58] you probably [2:31:58] getting flooded [2:31:58] with the, you know [2:31:59] , when [2:32:00] GoFundMe's and all that stuff [2:32:01] , [2:32:01] because a lot [2:32:01] of [2:32:02] nonprofits [2:32:03] they're looking for help and [2:32:03] it's just, it's [2:32:04] , it's a [2:32:04] tough [2:32:04] thing but [2:32:05] my pitch [2:32:06] to all you [2:32:06] guys out there and [2:32:06] business [2:32:07] owners is when you guys support [2:32:09] the fairgrounds [2:32:09] , the [2:32:10] fairgrounds are supporting [2:32:11] the [2:32:11] local economy, right [2:32:12] ? So we [2:32:12] have [2:32:13] many ways to [2:32:14] to donate [2:32:15] and [2:32:16] get involved to [2:32:16] help continue [2:32:18] supporting this. So whether you [2:32:18] give to the 4h, which [2:32:20] is [2:32:20] self-sustaining itself, or if [2:32:21] you do a sponsorship with [2:32:22] the [2:32:23] fair [2:32:23] or [2:32:24] there's other options [2:32:24] too [2:32:25] you can give to the [2:32:25] new [2:32:26] fairgrounds [2:32:27] , um, nonprofit [2:32:28] foundation. So there's just a [2:32:28] lot of different [2:32:29] ways [2:32:30] , but [2:32:31] there's a lot of different ways [2:32:32] people can say that they have [2:32:32] the impact [2:32:33] , but [2:32:33] this is [2:32:34] we [2:32:34] create fun [2:32:36] , we create education [2:32:36] we create lasting memories, and [2:32:37] we [2:32:38] create huge economic impact. [2:32:38] So [2:32:40] um that's just kind [2:32:40] of [2:32:41] everyone out there [2:32:41] , so [2:32:41] , um [2:32:43] . Yep [2:32:45] So [2:32:47] capital projects [2:32:48] , um, we are [2:32:50] uh, always trying to move the [2:32:50] needle [2:32:51] forward on um [2:32:52] you know, [2:32:52] improving [2:32:54] the fair ground so [2:32:54] the [2:32:56] um, we've had [2:32:56] some [2:32:57] wsd [2:32:57] wsda [2:32:57] grants [2:32:58] , which have been really [2:32:59] good [2:32:59] for us [2:33:01] . Um [2:33:01] , so the [2:33:01] , we put [2:33:02] a new [2:33:03] restroom [2:33:03] facility in [2:33:04] , um, [2:33:04] last year [2:33:06] . Um, which we [2:33:08] got [2:33:09] $250,000 from wsda [2:33:09] . We [2:33:10] finished [2:33:10] our sewer line [2:33:12] in 2024 [2:33:12] . Luckily [2:33:12] before [2:33:13] the 2024 fair, we [2:33:14] had [2:33:14] some, you know [2:33:15] , sewer line [2:33:15] issues [2:33:16] during [2:33:17] major [2:33:17] events are [2:33:20] uh, they're memorable and not [2:33:20] in the [2:33:21] right way [2:33:21] , so [2:33:21] I just [2:33:23] I [2:33:24] remember the call that we were [2:33:24] getting [2:33:25] close to fall at [2:33:26] the [2:33:26] 2023 fair [2:33:27] , and I put in the [2:33:28] word to get [2:33:28] the [2:33:30] tractors, and I [2:33:30] need [2:33:31] every [2:33:31] single [2:33:32] portable [2:33:33] toilet forked in the middle of [2:33:33] the fairgrounds [2:33:34] . So [2:33:35] , yes, I [2:33:35] know the [2:33:35] horse [2:33:36] departments [2:33:37] where you're taking [2:33:37] our toilets [2:33:38] and all this, but we had to put [2:33:38] all of [2:33:39] them in [2:33:39] there and call [2:33:40] the va [2:33:40] truck from [2:33:41] Public Works, [2:33:41] and they were out [2:33:42] of service [2:33:42] up [2:33:43] at [2:33:43] Baker Lake [2:33:44] Road or [2:33:44] something [2:33:44] like that [2:33:46] , and so we [2:33:46] got that [2:33:47] one done a little I had [2:33:48] the [2:33:48] restroom. Um [2:33:49] , our staff [2:33:49] , you'll [2:33:49] see [2:33:50] the garden bed [2:33:50] by the [2:33:51] fairgrounds, but [2:33:51] our staff did [2:33:52] that [2:33:52] . It's [2:33:53] the [2:33:53] flowers are [2:33:54] popping right now. You guys [2:33:55] should check that out when [2:33:55] you're there, um, and last year [2:33:56] we did some led lighting [2:33:57] . And [2:33:58] lots of little things [2:33:59] , um, on [2:33:59] this next [2:34:00] coming [2:34:00] upcoming cycle [2:34:01] for [2:34:02] wsda grants, we [2:34:02] did, we are [2:34:03] doing some [2:34:04] paving up at the [2:34:04] north half of [2:34:05] the grounds [2:34:06] up [2:34:07] near the, that would be at the [2:34:07] fair, the [2:34:08] petting zoo [2:34:08] , the [2:34:09] dog [2:34:09] barn [2:34:09] , um [2:34:11] we are [2:34:11] doing a lot [2:34:12] of [2:34:13] electrical upgrades [2:34:15] , um, to [2:34:15] the [2:34:16] rv areas, some of [2:34:17] the horse [2:34:18] barns, again, some of that not [2:34:20] gonna happen probably until [2:34:20] this [2:34:20] next [2:34:21] offseason [2:34:22] . Um [2:34:22] , we do [2:34:23] have new [2:34:23] swine [2:34:24] pens in [2:34:25] and then [2:34:25] uh we're [2:34:26] working on some of [2:34:26] the [2:34:26] new [2:34:27] portable [2:34:27] ada [2:34:28] bleachers and [2:34:29] much to [2:34:31] the delight of all [2:34:31] the [2:34:32] Anbarn superintendents [2:34:33] , we [2:34:33] have [2:34:34] no [2:34:34] dogs allowed [2:34:35] in [2:34:36] barns for [2:34:36] the entire [2:34:38] , uh, barns [2:34:38] , so it's [2:34:39] , [2:34:39] it's kind of [2:34:40] an issue of [2:34:41] getting people at the gates to [2:34:42] do that [2:34:43] , um, so we [2:34:43] . We [2:34:44] we got [2:34:45] grants to do that [2:34:46] , so they'll [2:34:47] be outside all the animal barns [2:34:47] and and just for the public [2:34:49] knows too, um, of [2:34:49] course [2:34:50] service [2:34:51] animals are allowed, [2:34:51] but [2:34:51] all the [2:34:52] the [2:34:52] animals go [2:34:53] through that check and so it's [2:34:54] a [2:34:54] real safety issue. So animals [2:34:56] bring in for vet check and [2:34:56] then [2:34:57] you bring a bunch of animals [2:34:57] that [2:34:58] aren't [2:34:59] vet checked, and it [2:34:59] just creates [2:35:00] , um, you know [2:35:01] , an [2:35:01] environment where a lot of [2:35:02] people are [2:35:02] being [2:35:03] really [2:35:03] responsible and taken care of [2:35:04] and [2:35:04] they're going, this [2:35:05] is the [2:35:06] Super Bowl and they're, they've [2:35:06] done all the things and [2:35:07] then [2:35:08] you just [2:35:08] bring [2:35:10] it outside kind [2:35:10] of thing that [2:35:11] hasn't been [2:35:11] checked in [2:35:12] and so we just [2:35:12] try [2:35:12] to, there's [2:35:13] a lot of [2:35:13] safety [2:35:13] that [2:35:14] goes into that [2:35:15] , so [2:35:16] I know [2:35:17] sometimes when you explain that [2:35:17] to the public [2:35:18] , some people, it [2:35:19] MAY not matter, but some people [2:35:19] go, oh wow [2:35:19] , that's the light [2:35:20] bulb goes off like, oh, this is [2:35:21] why we do that [2:35:21] . So [2:35:22] , uh, we're [2:35:23] also working on some sound [2:35:23] system [2:35:25] upgrades for the [2:35:25] pavilion. I know [2:35:25] during [2:35:26] the [2:35:26] livestock sale [2:35:28] . Um, we [2:35:29] , people [2:35:30] bought portable systems [2:35:31] because [2:35:32] our main system needs an [2:35:32] upgrade [2:35:33] . So [2:35:34] , um, also [2:35:34] I just [2:35:35] for the funding [2:35:36] , I know [2:35:36] commissioners you guys [2:35:37] um like [2:35:37] to be kept [2:35:39] , you know [2:35:39] , um, up on [2:35:40] this [2:35:41] , but wsda does have [2:35:42] um, [2:35:43] two funds for us from the state [2:35:43] so we are [2:35:45] . By [2:35:45] and large not [2:35:46] publicly funded [2:35:47] , um, but we do [2:35:48] get some money [2:35:48] from [2:35:49] wsda. So if [2:35:50] we are commissioners, if [2:35:51] you [2:35:51] guys [2:35:52] are [2:35:52] ever [2:35:53] um with [2:35:54] local [2:35:54] legislators who MAY [2:35:55] have that [2:35:55] the [2:35:56] fair funding [2:35:56] obviously it's [2:35:57] going to be [2:35:57] , uh, it's going [2:35:58] to [2:35:59] be up for [2:35:59] discussion [2:35:59] and [2:36:00] absolutely will be on the [2:36:01] chopping [2:36:01] block [2:36:01] 100% and [2:36:02] with [2:36:02] this, you know, the way [2:36:03] the [2:36:03] state [2:36:04] budget's going [2:36:04] , but [2:36:05] there's two [2:36:05] fair [2:36:05] funds [2:36:06] that [2:36:06] that [2:36:07] um come from the [2:36:07] state, so [2:36:08] there's more of an [2:36:09] operating [2:36:09] one [2:36:10] , it's called the [2:36:10] Fair Fund, [2:36:11] and [2:36:11] so that [2:36:12] , um [2:36:12] , by [2:36:13] and large, [2:36:13] we take a lot of that and put [2:36:14] it towards [2:36:14] the premiums [2:36:14] . So [2:36:15] that's [2:36:16] where the [2:36:17] um payouts go [2:36:17] for people when [2:36:18] they [2:36:19] exhibit. [2:36:19] Um, there's also a [2:36:21] capital fund [2:36:21] that [2:36:22] funds things [2:36:22] like this. So [2:36:24] um, the operational fund has [2:36:24] actually been the one hit [2:36:26] harder than the capital one [2:36:26] that seemed to [2:36:27] be more hole [2:36:27] . [2:36:28] We've [2:36:28] kind of [2:36:29] , of course [2:36:29] , [2:36:29] during these times you almost [2:36:30] want them [2:36:31] to [2:36:32] be reversed [2:36:33] sometimes [2:36:33] , but it's [2:36:33] , you guys [2:36:34] know that's not the way [2:36:35] it goes [2:36:35] so [2:36:37] , uh, we appreciate [2:36:38] , um, the [2:36:39] advocacy, but it is really good [2:36:39] We have [2:36:40] great partners [2:36:40] at [2:36:41] at [2:36:41] wsda, and [2:36:42] that's how [2:36:42] these [2:36:42] happen [2:36:44] . Ok [2:36:44] , let's [2:36:44] get [2:36:44] moving on [2:36:45] to the big [2:36:45] show [2:36:46] , which is the [2:36:46] fair, which is why you're all [2:36:47] here [2:36:48] . So [2:36:48] , um [2:36:50] let's wing it [2:36:51] That's [2:36:52] our theme this year [2:36:53] . So, [2:36:53] each [2:36:55] , uh, each fall [2:36:55] , uh, I [2:36:56] don't know what we do [2:36:57] . We get [2:36:58] done with the fare [2:36:59] . We are [2:36:59] on [2:37:00] to other [2:37:00] events [2:37:01] . We [2:37:02] get [2:37:02] in [2:37:02] OCTOBER we go to [2:37:03] our conference [2:37:04] get rejuvenated, and then [2:37:05] we [2:37:05] start [2:37:07] throwing ideas around for [2:37:07] the [2:37:08] next year's fair theme and [2:37:09] it is a little [2:37:11] bit overwhelming [2:37:11] because last year we had the [2:37:12] Cool Cats [2:37:13] theme and you're [2:37:13] sitting [2:37:13] there [2:37:14] going, this [2:37:15] , how [2:37:16] are we [2:37:16] going to [2:37:16] , how are we [2:37:17] going to even [2:37:17] get close to that [2:37:18] right [2:37:18] ? And so there's, you feel [2:37:20] the pressure, right? And we [2:37:20] have the shades and all that [2:37:21] and like what in the [2:37:22] heck are [2:37:22] we [2:37:23] going [2:37:23] to do [2:37:24] ? So [2:37:24] I [2:37:25] know [2:37:26] we um [2:37:26] we [2:37:26] did [2:37:27] have poultry as kind [2:37:27] of [2:37:28] the [2:37:28] last [2:37:29] major animal [2:37:29] group [2:37:29] that [2:37:31] didn't [2:37:31] uh maybe hadn't had [2:37:32] a theme in [2:37:32] the last 10 years [2:37:33] . I [2:37:34] remember back [2:37:34] to 2015 [2:37:35] is when [2:37:35] we [2:37:36] started [2:37:36] instituting the [2:37:37] animal themes [2:37:37] and that [2:37:38] that [2:37:39] animal theme just [2:37:39] uh date you [2:37:40] all. I know Commissioner Wheen, [2:37:40] you probably don't remember [2:37:41] this, but you're the only one [2:37:42] around then, but it [2:37:42] was the [2:37:43] summer of 60 swine, the best [2:37:44] days of our lives [2:37:47] . Yeah, and I [2:37:47] do [2:37:48] believe [2:37:49] , uh, Louisa, I do [2:37:50] believe you probably sent [2:37:51] me an [2:37:52] email in the middle of last [2:37:52] year's fair [2:37:53] , and [2:37:53] I probably [2:37:54] filed it and I [2:37:55] probably didn't [2:37:56] fully tend on whatever, but it [2:37:56] did [2:37:56] come [2:37:58] back [2:37:59] and [2:37:59] poultry was [2:38:00] what we didn't go [2:38:00] with [2:38:01] and [2:38:01] uh I [2:38:02] uh, I [2:38:03] do appreciate [2:38:03] , I do [2:38:04] appreciate [2:38:04] honesty [2:38:04] and [2:38:05] authenticity and what we do a [2:38:06] lot [2:38:06] of the fair [2:38:06] is a [2:38:07] highly [2:38:08] organized, it's a [2:38:08] highly [2:38:09] organized machine that I'd be [2:38:10] lying [2:38:10] to tell [2:38:11] you if [2:38:11] if 10% [2:38:12] of [2:38:12] it isn't [2:38:13] winging it [2:38:13] every [2:38:14] year [2:38:14] . [2:38:15] So it's kind [2:38:15] of fun around [2:38:15] the [2:38:16] office as well because we have [2:38:17] to [2:38:17] wing it to get it [2:38:17] done [2:38:18] sometimes [2:38:18] , so [2:38:20] , um, a, a shout [2:38:21] out [2:38:21] to [2:38:22] um James Longini [2:38:23] , who's [2:38:23] doing [2:38:24] the [2:38:25] , who did [2:38:25] the artwork [2:38:26] for us and as you guys know [2:38:27] , he [2:38:28] is [2:38:28] , uh, well [2:38:29] , Brian [2:38:30] Young is [2:38:30] , [2:38:30] uh, retired from the [2:38:31] county now [2:38:31] but [2:38:32] he started filling his [2:38:33] shoes [2:38:33] last year [2:38:34] , so it's really [2:38:34] cool to [2:38:34] have that [2:38:35] support [2:38:36] internally [2:38:37] , um, and [2:38:37] have [2:38:37] someone [2:38:38] from within [2:38:38] the county [2:38:39] continue to do that [2:38:40] , so, and [2:38:41] the goal [2:38:41] of [2:38:42] Sketch [2:38:43] County Fair [2:38:43] is [2:38:43] to produce a [2:38:44] fair in which [2:38:45] there's pride and [2:38:45] involvement [2:38:45] by the people [2:38:46] of Skagitt County [2:38:47] Here's some [2:38:48] fun pictures [2:38:48] , um, [2:38:48] you know [2:38:49] , the [2:38:49] fair [2:38:50] is fair is [2:38:51] all about the memories, the [2:38:52] kids and livestock show, you [2:38:53] can see this is, we have the [2:38:53] stuff [2:38:54] for the [2:38:54] bus event [2:38:55] , um, [2:38:55] it's again, that's a [2:38:56] great [2:38:57] charitable thing [2:38:59] , um, we're [2:38:59] just got mowing down an ice [2:39:00] cream cone at [2:39:01] the fair [2:39:01] . I mean, [2:39:02] that's what it's [2:39:02] all about [2:39:03] . The [2:39:04] bands, we have [2:39:04] a [2:39:06] huge cultural [2:39:07] , [2:39:07] um, you know [2:39:07] , we have [2:39:08] a [2:39:08] great [2:39:09] cultural stage going on [2:39:10] with [2:39:10] the [2:39:10] the [2:39:11] Latin entertainment [2:39:12] stage which is out in the [2:39:13] carnival area [2:39:14] at the fair [2:39:14] , but [2:39:14] this [2:39:15] is what it's [2:39:15] all [2:39:16] about the [2:39:17] the pictures, the memo ries [2:39:18] Um [2:39:18] , [2:39:19] here's some numbers from the [2:39:20] 2025 Fair [2:39:21] . Obviously, 4 days of [2:39:22] fun. What [2:39:23] else would they be [2:39:24] filled with [2:39:24] but fun [2:39:24] . Um [2:39:26] , around [2:39:27] 30,000 attendees, um, we [2:39:28] had [2:39:28] 3 [2:39:28] stages with over [2:39:29] 100 [2:39:29] performances [2:39:30] We [2:39:31] had [2:39:32] 11 [2:39:33] nonprofits fundraising, which [2:39:34] we'll go over [2:39:35] that in a little [2:39:35] bit [2:39:35] . 20 [2:39:37] nonprofits [2:39:37] participating [2:39:38] , um, over [2:39:41] 7000 [2:39:42] exhibitors over [2:39:43] over [2:39:43] 5000 [2:39:44] number of [2:39:44] total exhibits [2:39:46] , um, a [2:39:46] lot of [2:39:47] vendors and then [2:39:48] , um, [2:39:49] for, for people out there too, [2:39:49] a [2:39:50] lot of [2:39:50] the [2:39:51] departments that [2:39:52] you enter in, like 4h [2:39:52] and ffa [2:39:53] , [2:39:53] you kind of need to be a part [2:39:54] of that ahead of [2:39:55] , ahead of the [2:39:55] fair, but there [2:39:56] are open [2:39:56] class [2:39:57] divisions. So if you got our [2:39:57] website you [2:39:57] see [2:39:58] open [2:39:58] Class [2:40:00] , um, [2:40:00] you can [2:40:01] basically walk up [2:40:01] and [2:40:02] exhibit and [2:40:02] there's times [2:40:03] the [2:40:03] week of [2:40:03] the fair [2:40:04] , so [2:40:05] , um [2:40:05] we [2:40:06] have 59 departments [2:40:09] with [2:40:09] 76766 [2:40:09] divisions to participate [2:40:11] . So [2:40:11] there's a lot going on [2:40:13] . Um, if [2:40:14] you were to also ask me [2:40:15] if I [2:40:16] know all those off the top of [2:40:16] my head [2:40:18] , the answer is no, we [2:40:19] have amazing [2:40:19] , uh, [2:40:20] superintendents who in charge [2:40:20] of those divisions. Sometimes [2:40:21] we get phone [2:40:22] calls in and we, [2:40:22] you [2:40:22] know [2:40:23] , myself, I [2:40:24] gotta pull [2:40:24] up the quilt thing [2:40:25] and go, ok [2:40:25] , [2:40:25] let's [2:40:26] see what's going [2:40:27] on here [2:40:27] . [2:40:27] And then [2:40:28] , um, as [2:40:29] the experts [2:40:30] if [2:40:30] we don't [2:40:30] know the answer [2:40:31] . Um, [2:40:32] so the heart of the [2:40:33] fair, we [2:40:33] talked about the division. So [2:40:34] there's [2:40:34] 4h, which [2:40:35] is [2:40:35] well [2:40:36] represented [2:40:36] , um, in this [2:40:37] , um, [2:40:38] in this room, and we're gonna [2:40:39] have some people talk about [2:40:40] the [2:40:41] impact whereas there's [2:40:41] an [2:40:42] ffa [2:40:42] program, which is [2:40:42] mostly [2:40:43] through [2:40:44] the schools, and I [2:40:44] know [2:40:44] we [2:40:45] have [2:40:45] some [2:40:47] uh some [2:40:47] ffa [2:40:48] members up up here, [2:40:48] commissioners [2:40:49] , which you [2:40:49] guys [2:40:50] usually talk [2:40:50] about at [2:40:51] the [2:40:52] conclusion. Um, and then [2:40:52] the [2:40:52] open [2:40:52] class [2:40:53] division is [2:40:53] sort [2:40:54] of [2:40:54] like the [2:40:55] general public [2:40:55] can [2:40:56] just participate, enter [2:40:56] your [2:40:57] quilts [2:40:57] , enter [2:40:59] your Legos [2:41:00] , um, [2:41:01] so there's just so many ways [2:41:01] to [2:41:02] get involved [2:41:03] . Uh [2:41:03] , we talked [2:41:04] about the fairs, so [2:41:04] the fair on [2:41:05] its own is a cause [2:41:05] . So [2:41:06] , um, you [2:41:07] know, we are [2:41:07] not [2:41:08] , we have [2:41:08] to [2:41:08] make [2:41:10] our revenue [2:41:10] , um, balanced [2:41:11] with expenses [2:41:12] , and that's goes [2:41:13] up [2:41:14] , goes from a lot [2:41:14] of um [2:41:14] . You [2:41:15] know, from [2:41:16] the [2:41:16] community, [2:41:17] however [2:41:18] , we received so [2:41:19] much [2:41:19] help that, you know [2:41:20] , there's a [2:41:21] certain amount that you have to [2:41:22] give out back to and partner [2:41:23] with people [2:41:23] . So [2:41:24] , um, one [2:41:24] thing [2:41:24] we [2:41:25] do is [2:41:25] we stop the [2:41:26] bus [2:41:26] and [2:41:26] it's [2:41:27] with [2:41:27] this is [2:41:28] how [2:41:28] many [2:41:29] years? I don't know how [2:41:29] many [2:41:30] years now. Yeah [2:41:31] , 56, something [2:41:32] like [2:41:32] that [2:41:33] , uh, with the [2:41:33] United [2:41:33] Way [2:41:34] of [2:41:34] Sketch County [2:41:34] . So [2:41:35] basically what we [2:41:37] do is [2:41:37] have [2:41:38] people come and if [2:41:38] they donate [2:41:38] , [2:41:39] if [2:41:39] they donate [2:41:40] diapers, they [2:41:40] get them [2:41:41] for [2:41:41] free [2:41:42] . Um [2:41:43] , the [2:41:43] United [2:41:44] Way buys [2:41:45] ticket packages [2:41:46] from us at reduced [2:41:46] rates [2:41:46] , so [2:41:46] they do the group ticket [2:41:47] package rate, they find [2:41:47] the [2:41:48] sponsors and so [2:41:48] , um, we [2:41:48] are [2:41:48] able [2:41:50] to work with them on [2:41:50] a [2:41:50] little [2:41:51] lower price point there [2:41:51] , [2:41:52] but they, they find [2:41:52] the [2:41:53] sponsors for that [2:41:54] and then [2:41:54] if [2:41:55] you [2:41:55] um donate [2:41:57] a package [2:41:57] of [2:41:58] unopened [2:41:59] diapers [2:41:59] , you will get [2:42:00] in for the fare for [2:42:01] free and so [2:42:01] it's it's been [2:42:02] a [2:42:03] huge a [2:42:03] really [2:42:04] cool thing [2:42:05] , um, and [2:42:06] so we [2:42:06] invite [2:42:06] everyone to stuff the [2:42:07] bus [2:42:07] and [2:42:08] that's Thursday [2:42:08] from 10 [2:42:08] to 5 [2:42:09] and [2:42:09] that's only [2:42:10] at the [2:42:12] Cleveland Parkgate [2:42:12] , um, which [2:42:13] is on the north end of [2:42:13] the [2:42:14] fairgrounds [2:42:14] where the [2:42:15] senior [2:42:15] centers [2:42:16] where the senior center [2:42:17] groups park [2:42:17] cars. Um, the [2:42:18] livestock sale [2:42:19] , um, is [2:42:19] an [2:42:20] amazing thing. A lot of the [2:42:21] money [2:42:21] goes [2:42:22] back to the kids. [2:42:22] Most of [2:42:23] the money goes back to [2:42:24] the kids on [2:42:24] that except [2:42:25] the [2:42:26] very [2:42:27] small percentage [2:42:28] , um, and [2:42:28] so we do have [2:42:29] a write up in [2:42:29] this year's [2:42:30] fair guide on it [2:42:30] , [2:42:30] but there's a [2:42:31] whole journey [2:42:33] from, um, you know, starting [2:42:34] the project [2:42:35] and through the end [2:42:35] of the sale [2:42:35] and [2:42:37] so I'm not [2:42:38] gonna try and get into [2:42:38] that. I [2:42:38] think the best [2:42:39] thing that a lot [2:42:40] of people can [2:42:40] do [2:42:41] is [2:42:42] , um, you [2:42:42] know, talk to the kids at the [2:42:43] fair [2:42:44] because they're really [2:42:44] interested in talking about [2:42:45] their projects and so there's a [2:42:45] lot [2:42:46] of [2:42:47] really cool [2:42:48] , um, stories [2:42:48] behind [2:42:49] it and [2:42:50] I know [2:42:51] there's [2:42:51] never [2:42:51] a [2:42:52] shortage of the [2:42:52] need [2:42:53] for buyers [2:42:54] to pack [2:42:54] , pack the [2:42:55] , [2:42:56] uh, the [2:42:56] stands Saturday [2:42:57] , AUGUST [2:42:57] 8th [2:42:58] at [2:42:59] 10:00 A.M. Um [2:42:59] , I [2:43:00] think [2:43:00] Francis had [2:43:01] a tip, but maybe [2:43:01] it's in [2:43:02] the guide [2:43:02] , but it's [2:43:03] , uh [2:43:03] be careful if you [2:43:03] ' re [2:43:04] raising [2:43:04] your [2:43:04] hand to [2:43:05] scratch [2:43:05] your [2:43:05] nose [2:43:06] or your hair when you're done [2:43:06] because [2:43:07] you might [2:43:08] , you might [2:43:08] be [2:43:09] a couple [2:43:09] 1000 deep into an [2:43:10] animal [2:43:11] if you do [2:43:11] that [2:43:12] . So [2:43:13] , um, [2:43:14] the, we also have [2:43:14] the canteen [2:43:15] at the fair [2:43:15] , so [2:43:16] we partner [2:43:17] , um, [2:43:18] with [2:43:18] a [2:43:18] nonprofit there [2:43:21] , um, and [2:43:21] so [2:43:22] , um, a portion of the [2:43:23] proceeds go to the [2:43:24] Kuwana [2:43:25] Scholarship Fund. Um, so that [2:43:26] is a really [2:43:26] , a [2:43:27] really cool [2:43:28] partnership we [2:43:28] have [2:43:28] there [2:43:29] , um, [2:43:30] and then [2:43:30] other things that [2:43:30] we [2:43:31] do [2:43:31] that, you know [2:43:33] , people [2:43:34] providing services that [2:43:34] basically they either keep the [2:43:35] money or we give them a [2:43:35] stipend [2:43:36] to perform [2:43:36] a service [2:43:36] , but it's [2:43:37] bas it's [2:43:37] a fundraiser [2:43:37] , Mount [2:43:38] Vernon High School Music [2:43:39] Booster Club. They run a [2:43:39] parking [2:43:41] lot [2:43:41] , Mount [2:43:42] Vernon [2:43:43] Senior Center, and then [2:43:43] I think [2:43:44] the four organizations you see [2:43:45] under there are kind of [2:43:45] under [2:43:45] the [2:43:45] senior [2:43:46] center [2:43:46] umbrella [2:43:47] , um, [2:43:48] but that we're really happy [2:43:48] to [2:43:49] support that, um [2:43:50] . As well [2:43:51] because I know the [2:43:51] seniors are [2:43:51] , [2:43:52] they're working really hard to [2:43:53] raise money. Um [2:43:54] , the [2:43:54] , and then [2:43:55] we have [2:43:56] help with the garbage. [2:43:56] We use the Mount for high [2:43:57] school wrestling team [2:43:58] , so that [2:43:59] all goes back into [2:44:00] their [2:44:01] coffers, and they do, they do [2:44:02] good work for us [2:44:03] . Um [2:44:03] , Ferry is [2:44:05] all about the community, so we [2:44:05] do have [2:44:07] , um, a lot of [2:44:08] community [2:44:08] focused days [2:44:09] , so [2:44:10] we have on [2:44:10] Thursday we have [2:44:11] a family [2:44:12] resource day so we have [2:44:13] like [2:44:14] 20 [2:44:14] organizations you can, it's [2:44:14] a [2:44:15] little small on [2:44:16] the screen [2:44:16] there, but um they [2:44:17] come [2:44:17] together [2:44:19] to have a theme day at [2:44:19] the [2:44:20] fair [2:44:21] , so we do [2:44:21] , um, [2:44:22] Thursday and Friday, the [2:44:22] fair [2:44:23] from 10 to 4 [2:44:23] we have, we're [2:44:24] able to get a lot [2:44:25] of different [2:44:26] organizations in there. So a [2:44:26] lot of times when people are a [2:44:27] vendor at the [2:44:28] fair [2:44:28] , they are [2:44:29] required to be there all [2:44:29] days [2:44:30] , [2:44:30] 10 A.M. To [2:44:31] 10 P.M. [2:44:32] Um, we [2:44:32] have [2:44:32] to [2:44:33] operate that way, but we [2:44:33] have been able to do [2:44:34] a [2:44:34] couple [2:44:35] community-focused days where we [2:44:35] can get [2:44:36] , um, like [2:44:37] some public [2:44:38] service agencies in there [2:44:38] for 6 [2:44:39] hours [2:44:39] , 1 day [2:44:40] , you know [2:44:40] , they, [2:44:41] they [2:44:41] do giveaways [2:44:41] , they [2:44:42] create [2:44:44] entertainment [2:44:44] value [2:44:44] and um [2:44:45] and [2:44:46] that way there's not a barrier [2:44:46] to participation because they [2:44:47] can [2:44:48] basically accomplish it all [2:44:48] in in one [2:44:49] workday in [2:44:50] and out [2:44:50] and we get a lot of [2:44:51] cool things [2:44:51] Um, so [2:44:52] we also have the [2:44:53] safety [2:44:53] preparedness day [2:44:55] . On [2:44:55] Friday [2:44:56] , um [2:44:57] of the fair. You guys see we [2:44:57] have a lot [2:44:59] of participation [2:44:59] from different [2:44:59] , um, county [2:45:00] agencies in here [2:45:01] , especially on [2:45:01] the [2:45:02] safety [2:45:02] preparedness Day [2:45:03] , um [2:45:04] so those are really [2:45:04] cool [2:45:05] things [2:45:06] and then I'm [2:45:07] jumping back [2:45:07] to [2:45:07] Thursday [2:45:08] , we kind [2:45:08] of call [2:45:08] it [2:45:09] uh [2:45:09] sort [2:45:09] of [2:45:10] our [2:45:10] family [2:45:11] fun opening [2:45:11] day, but we have [2:45:12] the [2:45:13] Family [2:45:13] Resource Day [2:45:14] and then [2:45:14] the [2:45:15] diaper drive which you talked [2:45:15] about [2:45:16] and then [2:45:16] we have [2:45:17] baby [2:45:17] racing [2:45:17] on [2:45:18] the stage [2:45:19] , um [2:45:20] which I [2:45:20] believe [2:45:22] , um, I don't know if [2:45:22] you've been informed, [2:45:23] Commissioner Browning, but I [2:45:24] think you're going to be there [2:45:24] to drop [2:45:24] the diaper [2:45:26] . I will [2:45:26] . The [2:45:27] the, uh, yeah. I'm pretty [2:45:27] excited about it [2:45:28] . Yeah [2:45:28] . Great [2:45:29] for Trump. I don't know exactly [2:45:29] what it's going to look like [2:45:30] , [2:45:30] but the [2:45:31] , um, Caps kbrc radio [2:45:32] puts [2:45:32] that [2:45:33] on [2:45:34] , um, and [2:45:34] so [2:45:34] there's [2:45:35] huge prizes. I [2:45:35] mean [2:45:35] , we [2:45:36] have [2:45:36] like [2:45:38] $1000 recliner for [2:45:38] first place [2:45:39] , 2nd place [2:45:40] is like [2:45:40] , [2:45:41] you know [2:45:41] , I don't know. I [2:45:41] think [2:45:42] the other ones are close [2:45:43] to [2:45:44] 1000. It's [2:45:44] , it's like [2:45:44] huge [2:45:45] , um, [2:45:45] like [2:45:47] , so yeah [2:45:47] , 6 [2:45:48] to 14 months [2:45:48] . [2:45:48] If you, if [2:45:49] you guys [2:45:49] know [2:45:50] anybody [2:45:50] who's a crawler [2:45:51] , they [2:45:51] can't walk, 6 to [2:45:52] 14 months [2:45:52] , um, [2:45:53] get him out on the stage. It [2:45:54] doesn't cost to [2:45:54] enter [2:45:55] . Parents [2:45:56] got to pay it again, that's it. [2:45:56] So I mean, I [2:45:57] , I [2:45:57] , I've long [2:45:58] said [2:45:58] that prizes they get, like [2:46:00] we've had good [2:46:00] participation 20 [2:46:01] or so, babies. I guess there's [2:46:01] only [2:46:02] so many [2:46:02] in [2:46:03] that [2:46:03] demographic, but I mean [2:46:04] , the [2:46:04] prizes alone and that [2:46:05] could [2:46:06] change somebody [2:46:07] , but it's [2:46:07] , it's [2:46:08] hilarious cause the [2:46:08] babies [2:46:09] don't always go in [2:46:09] linear [2:46:10] paths [2:46:11] So, it's [2:46:11] kind of a fun [2:46:11] thing. [2:46:12] So. What [2:46:12] of a [2:46:13] county employees [2:46:14] , [2:46:14] child [2:46:15] one, last year [2:46:15] , the year [2:46:16] before [2:46:16] . Oh, it just [2:46:17] totally [2:46:17] rocked it [2:46:17] . This kid was [2:46:18] a stud [2:46:18] . [2:46:19] It was [2:46:19] , it [2:46:20] was great. Well [2:46:20] , and [2:46:21] I think the good part of that [2:46:21] is, is, you know [2:46:22] Because if you [2:46:23] get your [2:46:24] baby training, you're [2:46:25] gonna be able to kick back [2:46:26] and [2:46:27] you're going to be able to kick [2:46:27] back in a [2:46:28] nice [2:46:30] recliner. For [2:46:30] months [2:46:31] . Tri your baby down [2:46:31] . [2:46:32] Yeah baby back [2:46:32] down. So [2:46:33] , yeah [2:46:35] . [2:46:36] Are they able to like throw a [2:46:37] little food in front of them [2:46:37] just [2:46:38] to [2:46:38] keep [2:46:40] moving or so the [2:46:41] fair has, the fair has a lot [2:46:43] of [2:46:43] programs outside of the fair as [2:46:44] well. I mean, the, it's the [2:46:45] whole ecosystem that feeds a [2:46:46] fair, but we have worked with [2:46:47] local [2:46:47] libraries, the Read to [2:46:48] Win [2:46:49] . So basically [2:46:50] they do a [2:46:51] certain amount of reading [2:46:51] . The [2:46:52] library has the [2:46:52] fare tickets [2:46:53] and then it's [2:46:53] the incentive [2:46:53] that [2:46:54] they get [2:46:55] a ribbon [2:46:55] and a [2:46:56] fare ticket [2:46:57] , um, to come [2:46:58] to the [2:46:58] fair [2:46:59] . I will [2:46:59] add as [2:47:00] well that [2:47:02] um we [2:47:02] , we are [2:47:03] open for more. We [2:47:03] would love [2:47:04] that [2:47:04] fare [2:47:05] tickets [2:47:05] are used more as [2:47:06] an incentive [2:47:06] in businesses around Skagit [2:47:07] County. So [2:47:07] we [2:47:07] have [2:47:08] group [2:47:08] tickets promoted, but [2:47:09] I've [2:47:09] long [2:47:10] wanted to [2:47:10] expand [2:47:11] that of [2:47:11] , hey [2:47:12] , [2:47:12] um, the auto [2:47:14] repair shop, um, [2:47:15] you know, you come to us [2:47:15] or [2:47:15] whatever, you're [2:47:16] going to get a [2:47:16] free [2:47:17] fare ticket [2:47:17] . So I [2:47:18] would [2:47:19] encourage [2:47:19] any [2:47:20] businesses [2:47:20] , um, [2:47:21] instead of [2:47:21] Yale given [2:47:22] you could [2:47:22] give a [2:47:23] $10 off [2:47:24] or [2:47:24] maybe [2:47:24] consider [2:47:25] buying a group [2:47:25] of fare [2:47:26] tickets which [2:47:26] are discounted [2:47:27] and kind of using that [2:47:27] as an [2:47:28] incentive [2:47:28] . So we are [2:47:29] always [2:47:29] looking [2:47:29] for [2:47:31] those partnerships [2:47:31] and stuff that [2:47:32] we [2:47:33] can, we [2:47:33] can [2:47:34] work on, especially [2:47:34] when we're [2:47:35] not in JUNE and JULY, we can [2:47:36] work on those in the offseason. [2:47:37] So if anybody has any [2:47:37] ideas [2:47:37] there, um, we [2:47:38] , we would love to [2:47:39] talk [2:47:42] . This [2:47:42] is [2:47:43] another really [2:47:43] cool thing, um [2:47:44] the [2:47:45] Blue [2:47:45] Ribbon [2:47:46] experience. So we've [2:47:47] gotten [2:47:48] sponsors to [2:47:49] sponsor [2:47:50] families [2:47:51] for basically a really fun day [2:47:51] at [2:47:52] the [2:47:53] fair. Um [2:47:53] , the [2:47:53] fair, the [2:47:54] fair [2:47:54] honestly [2:47:55] could be a very [2:47:55] cheap [2:47:56] , affordable experience [2:47:57] . [2:47:57] Um [2:47:57] , sometimes [2:47:58] I will [2:47:58] say that [2:47:59] it does [2:47:59] sometimes [2:47:59] take [2:48:00] self-control to do so [2:48:00] . If you [2:48:01] want to [2:48:01] do all [2:48:02] the things at [2:48:02] the fair and the [2:48:03] carnival and [2:48:04] it does [2:48:04] , it does [2:48:05] cost money [2:48:05] , [2:48:05] all the [2:48:06] , all [2:48:06] the [2:48:06] individual [2:48:07] businesses [2:48:08] need to [2:48:08] , um, you [2:48:09] know [2:48:09] , make the cut [2:48:10] , but we [2:48:11] have [2:48:11] put [2:48:11] together this [2:48:12] really cool [2:48:13] thing where [2:48:13] a family [2:48:14] can [2:48:15] get [2:48:15] nominated and they get g [2:48:16] ate [2:48:16] admission [2:48:17] , uh, parking for [2:48:18] carnival wristbands [2:48:19] , $100 in [2:48:20] fair food box, and [2:48:21] then 4 [2:48:21] fair [2:48:22] t-shirts, so the [2:48:22] whole package, [2:48:23] so we have [2:48:23] local [2:48:24] businesses [2:48:25] sponsoring these. Um, I [2:48:25] will [2:48:25] put [2:48:26] another plugin for this [2:48:27] that I [2:48:27] , we were trying [2:48:28] to get [2:48:28] families [2:48:29] nominated by [2:48:29] JULY 1st [2:48:29] . [2:48:30] I will say [2:48:30] that we [2:48:31] , there's [2:48:31] been flat out too [2:48:32] busy and they [2:48:32] have not been able to [2:48:33] get [2:48:33] the [2:48:34] promotion out quite [2:48:34] as wide as [2:48:35] we have, so [2:48:35] this is open [2:48:36] for [2:48:36] business [2:48:36] . So if you [2:48:37] guys [2:48:37] know [2:48:38] anybody [2:48:39] , um, that we [2:48:39] have [2:48:40] nomination forms on [2:48:41] our website [2:48:41] and the [2:48:42] , the [2:48:42] radio station [2:48:43] Caps [2:48:43] kbrc is [2:48:44] kind of coordinated [2:48:44] , [2:48:44] but if you guys [2:48:44] know [2:48:45] of [2:48:45] anybody [2:48:46] who's been a he [2:48:47] ro or has gone [2:48:47] through [2:48:47] hard [2:48:48] times or [2:48:48] anything [2:48:49] you want [2:48:49] . There's [2:48:49] nomination [2:48:50] form, so [2:48:51] . And they get [2:48:51] surprised out [2:48:53] of the [2:48:53] blue with [2:48:54] a really like you know [2:48:55] , some [2:48:55] people can't [2:48:56] , they MAY be able [2:48:56] to afford to come [2:48:57] to the [2:48:58] fair [2:48:58] and eat [2:49:00] one snack, but this is [2:49:00] a really cool thing, so [2:49:02] . Um, [2:49:03] also, I will [2:49:04] , uh, point out the [2:49:05] Cascade Natural Gas is [2:49:05] sponsored [2:49:06] stuff through [2:49:07] Community action. So we often [2:49:09] act as the broker [2:49:09] or [2:49:10] facilitator [2:49:11] for charitable [2:49:12] experiences, so we would love [2:49:13] to [2:49:13] expand that [2:49:14] . Um [2:49:14] , I [2:49:16] know [2:49:16] we've so Cascade Natural Gas [2:49:17] covered the tickets and then we [2:49:18] gave them [2:49:18] out to [2:49:18] Community [2:49:19] action [2:49:19] because who are we [2:49:20] , who [2:49:20] are we to try and figure [2:49:20] out [2:49:21] the people who need it the most [2:49:22] We're just [2:49:22] the, we're just [2:49:22] the [2:49:23] facilitators, right? Give it [2:49:24] right to [2:49:25] the people who [2:49:25] know [2:49:25] how to [2:49:26] get it [2:49:27] to people in need [2:49:27] but there's [2:49:28] an [2:49:28] unlimited need [2:49:29] for that. If [2:49:30] we got [2:49:30] if we [2:49:31] got [2:49:31] 1000 tickets, I [2:49:32] guarantee you [2:49:32] that we could find [2:49:33] a [2:49:33] 1000 [2:49:34] things and I [2:49:34] , um, I know we did [2:49:34] get a [2:49:35] state [2:49:36] grant [2:49:36] back during [2:49:37] covid. It was sort of a little [2:49:37] bit of [2:49:38] a chance thing, but I [2:49:39] did [2:49:39] somehow [2:49:40] get [2:49:40] 3000 fare [2:49:41] tickets out [2:49:41] to [2:49:41] charitable [2:49:42] organizations, and [2:49:42] I still have [2:49:43] that spreadsheet and I can tell [2:49:44] you they were gone in [2:49:44] a [2:49:45] heartbeat [2:49:45] . So [2:49:46] , um [2:49:47] yeah [2:49:47] , there's [2:49:48] unlimited need for that [2:49:51] . Ok [2:49:51] . [2:49:52] The Fair [2:49:52] entertainment this [2:49:52] year. So some [2:49:53] of [2:49:54] the [2:49:54] um fun [2:49:54] things. So [2:49:55] we have [2:49:56] , of course, [2:49:56] lots of local bands [2:49:59] , um, you [2:49:59] know, we do [2:49:59] pull like our, our [2:50:00] magicians [2:50:00] , our jugglers, these [2:50:01] are people that do this [2:50:02] professional year [2:50:03] around. So [2:50:03] these are people often we find [2:50:04] at [2:50:05] our conventions [2:50:05] in OCTOBER [2:50:07] , [2:50:08] um, the sterling, the magician [2:50:08] , [2:50:08] he's like [2:50:10] , he performs on [2:50:10] cruise ships the rest of the [2:50:11] year [2:50:12] , and [2:50:12] , and [2:50:13] Matt Henry, he's [2:50:13] a [2:50:14] professional juggler [2:50:15] . Um, I [2:50:16] will point out [2:50:16] a couple [2:50:16] new [2:50:17] things this [2:50:17] year we have [2:50:17] . There [2:50:18] is [2:50:18] a new [2:50:19] fun [2:50:20] zone stage [2:50:21] , um, [2:50:21] going in [2:50:23] , um, just, it'll be [2:50:24] just [2:50:26] , uh, west of [2:50:26] the arena [2:50:26] , [2:50:27] nope, east [2:50:27] of the arena [2:50:28] . But [2:50:28] don't worry, we're going to [2:50:29] have [2:50:29] the [2:50:30] backdrop nice and [2:50:31] lined up so the sound [2:50:32] is going [2:50:32] to be [2:50:32] going towards the [2:50:33] uh main [2:50:33] fairgrounds, but [2:50:34] we have a [2:50:35] stage that's gonna have 9 [2:50:35] daily [2:50:35] shows [2:50:36] on [2:50:37] it [2:50:37] , um, so that's a [2:50:38] new thing [2:50:39] , so that's actually [2:50:39] gonna be like our [2:50:40] 4th stage [2:50:40] , [2:50:40] but it's [2:50:41] the cutest show on [2:50:42] Earth, the kids' [2:50:42] pedal [2:50:42] tractor [2:50:43] going [2:50:43] , uh, pulling [2:50:44] the magic [2:50:44] egg [2:50:44] bean show [2:50:45] . So those are [2:50:45] , [2:50:46] that's [2:50:46] something really new fun [2:50:47] to watch [2:50:48] . And then [2:50:48] um we [2:50:48] have a [2:50:49] really cool [2:50:50] thing with [2:50:51] uh Wiiku [2:50:51] and [2:50:52] the [2:50:52] Children's [2:50:53] Museum, and [2:50:53] they're gonna have like [2:50:54] a huge [2:50:55] kid zone [2:50:56] , uh, and [2:50:57] also [2:50:58] incorporate like a money [2:50:59] journey that we [2:50:59] could put [2:51:00] together. So it's again [2:51:00] , like [2:51:01] it's fun, but like [2:51:01] they're [2:51:02] literally starting education on [2:51:02] financial [2:51:03] literacy at a young [2:51:04] age at the same [2:51:04] time [2:51:06] , so again [2:51:06] , [2:51:07] I can, we [2:51:08] are um so happy to [2:51:09] have all these partners and [2:51:09] it's another [2:51:10] testament [2:51:10] to the [2:51:11] amount [2:51:11] of [2:51:12] boxes [2:51:13] that, well, I [2:51:13] will push all of the [2:51:14] credit [2:51:15] outwards to the work that's [2:51:15] done by all [2:51:16] these [2:51:16] individual [2:51:16] people [2:51:17] , the [2:51:17] fair and [2:51:18] the [2:51:19] fairgrounds check so [2:51:20] many [2:51:20] boxes [2:51:21] on, you [2:51:21] know [2:51:22] , what's under [2:51:22] its [2:51:22] umbrella [2:51:23] , so we're [2:51:23] really [2:51:24] , [2:51:24] we're really uh [2:51:26] excited [2:51:26] for [2:51:27] that, and that's across from [2:51:27] the [2:51:28] , gonna be across from the [2:51:29] Vuelta La Luna Circus. So if [2:51:29] you're out [2:51:30] by the [2:51:31] sheep barn [2:51:31] just north of the [2:51:31] carnival, [2:51:32] we're [2:51:33] gonna have the circus, [2:51:34] which is there every year. [2:51:34] We're gonna [2:51:35] have the big [2:51:35] kids [2:51:35] zone [2:51:36] across from it and the [2:51:37] stage across [2:51:37] from that [2:51:38] . So [2:51:38] , um, [2:51:39] that'll be a new [2:51:40] area to [2:51:40] kind [2:51:40] of check [2:51:41] out this year [2:51:42] . Some [2:51:42] of [2:51:43] the favorites that are [2:51:44] back, of [2:51:44] course [2:51:45] , the hypnotist, the [2:51:45] circus, the [2:51:46] diaper derby we [2:51:47] talked about [2:51:47] , ieing [2:51:48] contests [2:51:49] , [2:51:50] um, anybody can sign up for the [2:51:51] pie contest to show up by the [2:51:52] stage, um, and then cheer [2:51:53] at [2:51:53] the Fair is always a good one [2:51:54] with the high school [2:51:55] cheerleading [2:51:56] teams [2:51:56] and we do [2:51:56] a [2:51:58] piing contest and a [2:51:58] spirit [2:51:59] award as well, so [2:51:59] that's always [2:51:59] a [2:52:00] really [2:52:01] fun thing [2:52:01] to have back [2:52:03] Um, I'm gonna go through pretty [2:52:03] quick [2:52:04] . We have a [2:52:05] bustling [2:52:05] main [2:52:06] stage [2:52:07] , um, entertainment [2:52:08] schedule [2:52:09] , um, we [2:52:10] do have [2:52:10] a [2:52:11] , um, [2:52:12] a very [2:52:12] large [2:52:12] international [2:52:13] artist [2:52:14] , uh Latin [2:52:14] entertainment [2:52:14] artist named [2:52:15] Larry Hernandez [2:52:16] coming on Saturday night. [2:52:16] That's always a [2:52:17] huge draw [2:52:18] . If [2:52:18] you guys are near the main [2:52:19] stage [2:52:20] on Saturday night, it's, [2:52:21] it's kind of a [2:52:21] , a really [2:52:22] cool [2:52:23] thing to watch about how many [2:52:24] people pack around the stage [2:52:25] . [2:52:25] Um [2:52:27] , again, you'll have to look [2:52:27] this up in the fair guide will [2:52:28] be [2:52:29] out later this month. And we [2:52:30] have a [2:52:31] community stage as well, [2:52:32] which is out in the ball field [2:52:33] . [2:52:34] It's a little more [2:52:34] of a [2:52:35] chill [2:52:35] environment [2:52:36] , um, in the [2:52:36] food [2:52:37] court [2:52:37] . Um [2:52:38] Monique Brigham, who [2:52:39] many of you guys know [2:52:40] , is the [2:52:41] one who usually puts this [2:52:41] together and [2:52:42] we [2:52:43] , um, back [2:52:43] to [2:52:45] the causes we do pay a small [2:52:45] stipend for [2:52:46] the organization if [2:52:47] you have that and that in [2:52:48] turn [2:52:49] , [2:52:50] um, has gone to [2:52:50] a [2:52:50] nonprofit [2:52:51] typically of [2:52:52] what Monique [2:52:52] has [2:52:52] chosen, and this [2:52:53] year it's [2:52:53] uh [2:52:54] the [2:52:54] swift Center [2:52:55] , um, and [2:52:56] so I [2:52:57] , [2:52:58] um, am not as [2:52:58] well [2:52:59] versed [2:52:59] on [2:52:59] exactly [2:53:00] . Um [2:53:01] on [2:53:01] the Swift Center [2:53:02] but I [2:53:03] know commissioners, you [2:53:03] guys are very involved with [2:53:04] that and [2:53:05] , and [2:53:05] so we were, we're [2:53:06] always really excited when [2:53:06] there's a new [2:53:07] cause that [2:53:08] comes [2:53:08] along to, to go [2:53:09] towards [2:53:10] supporting [2:53:10] so that [2:53:12] will have [2:53:13] mini acts daily and then of [2:53:13] course [2:53:14] our [2:53:14] Latin entertainment [2:53:15] stage, which is out in [2:53:16] the [2:53:16] carnival area [2:53:17] , um, it's just a [2:53:18] really cool thing [2:53:18] you [2:53:19] guys [2:53:19] just [2:53:19] to [2:53:20] , to go check [2:53:21] out [2:53:21] and [2:53:23] um [2:53:23] whether [2:53:24] you understand every [2:53:26] word or not, it's like it's a [2:53:26] beau, it's a really [2:53:27] , it's a [2:53:28] beautiful fact. It really is [2:53:28] . [2:53:29] So there's a lot of [2:53:29] time [2:53:30] and [2:53:30] energy [2:53:30] and talent [2:53:31] that goes [2:53:31] into that [2:53:32] . Uh putting all that [2:53:33] on [2:53:35] Uh, we try to keep [2:53:37] people [2:53:37] comfy. We'll have the [2:53:38] Thirstbuster back this year [2:53:39] . Um [2:53:40] and then [2:53:41] the [2:53:41] Kitty [2:53:42] Corral area [2:53:42] , [2:53:42] which we [2:53:43] , um have and it's [2:53:44] usually for 5 and [2:53:44] under parents [2:53:45] to go take [2:53:45] a [2:53:46] load [2:53:46] off [2:53:47] and [2:53:48] um [2:53:48] it's, it's a good thing [2:53:48] because [2:53:49] people don't leave the [2:53:49] fair [2:53:50] instead of leaving [2:53:50] the fair [2:53:50] , [2:53:51] they stay there, get comfy [2:53:52] , and [2:53:53] um, hang around [2:53:55] . Um [2:53:57] , um, again [2:53:57] , [2:53:58] this is [2:53:59] the sponsors of the [2:53:59] fair are a [2:54:00] huge thing. So [2:54:01] I [2:54:01] again I can't [2:54:02] give personal [2:54:03] shoutouts, but you guys can see [2:54:04] all of the [2:54:06] incredible sponsors [2:54:06] here [2:54:08] , um, um, so we just [2:54:08] , um, [2:54:09] invite people to take [2:54:11] a look at [2:54:12] this when you're in there and [2:54:12] just consider, you know, just [2:54:13] just look at it and [2:54:13] know who [2:54:14] supports the [2:54:15] fair. I [2:54:15] know some [2:54:16] of these people, this logo is [2:54:16] going to show [2:54:17] up 3 [2:54:17] or [2:54:18] 4 [2:54:18] different places in [2:54:19] the fair [2:54:20] because we have [2:54:20] Barnes [2:54:21] fundraising and [2:54:21] , and [2:54:22] , and they [2:54:22] have their [2:54:23] own sponsors and we [2:54:23] have [2:54:25] the livestock sales or [2:54:26] some of these businesses you're [2:54:26] gonna see their logo 3 and [2:54:27] 4 [2:54:28] times [2:54:28] and um I just want to [2:54:29] give a huge [2:54:29] shout out to [2:54:30] them [2:54:30] and [2:54:31] um I will [2:54:32] , we will [2:54:32] send a [2:54:32] , [2:54:33] a request [2:54:33] in to [2:54:34] the [2:54:35] commissioners to consider if we [2:54:36] can uh do a [2:54:36] thank [2:54:37] you [2:54:38] as well [2:54:38] . [2:54:39] So we'll send that to [2:54:39] Amber to [2:54:40] send that week of [2:54:40] , but that's [2:54:41] really, that's really [2:54:41] cool. [2:54:42] They [2:54:42] hear from me [2:54:43] , but when [2:54:43] they [2:54:44] hear from [2:54:44] , um, [2:54:45] commissioners [2:54:45] and whatnot, it's [2:54:45] it [2:54:46] it's really appreciated [2:54:48] Um [2:54:49] , [2:54:49] so to kind of wrap up this [2:54:50] component [2:54:51] , the [2:54:51] keys are [2:54:51] success [2:54:52] year round [2:54:52] . We appreciate [2:54:53] the [2:54:54] support from the [2:54:54] county [2:54:54] leadership [2:54:55] , um, of [2:54:56] the fair [2:54:56] , [2:54:56] the [2:54:56] active [2:54:57] event calendar [2:54:58] throughout [2:54:58] the [2:54:58] year [2:55:00] , um, the [2:55:01] immense amount of [2:55:01] local [2:55:01] businesses and [2:55:02] partnerships [2:55:03] , I [2:55:03] highlighted the [2:55:04] jail [2:55:04] alternatives program. Um [2:55:05] , you [2:55:05] know [2:55:06] , community participation [2:55:06] , [2:55:07] there's a lot of things we [2:55:07] talk [2:55:08] about you can do on a [2:55:09] deeper [2:55:09] level [2:55:09] , but [2:55:10] not everyone [2:55:10] has [2:55:11] time [2:55:11] or [2:55:12] energy [2:55:12] or you're [2:55:13] part [2:55:13] of [2:55:13] 20 [2:55:14] causes and [2:55:15] 20 boards, you [2:55:15] know [2:55:15] , but there [2:55:16] are little [2:55:16] things [2:55:17] you can do. There [2:55:17] we [2:55:17] have 4 [2:55:18] hour shifts at [2:55:18] the fair [2:55:19] to volunteer for [2:55:21] Honestly [2:55:21] , if [2:55:21] you don't do anything else, [2:55:22] just show up to the fair, pay [2:55:23] your gate admission, walk [2:55:23] around for [2:55:23] two [2:55:24] hours, talk [2:55:24] to [2:55:24] two kids about [2:55:25] their [2:55:25] animals, [2:55:26] grab an ice cream cone, go home [2:55:27] That's sports fair, Easy [2:55:29] . Ok [2:55:29] . [2:55:29] Um [2:55:30] , entering the fair [2:55:31] , if [2:55:32] you're the kind that's home on [2:55:33] your [2:55:34] , you know, you just [2:55:34] want [2:55:35] to knit [2:55:36] , knit something while [2:55:37] you're watching your favorite [2:55:37] tv show [2:55:38] . Throw it in the fair. [2:55:39] It's not going to hurt if you [2:55:39] don't win a [2:55:40] ribbon, nothing [2:55:40] hurt [2:55:41] . Or [2:55:41] you could come home [2:55:41] with the blue [2:55:43] Um [2:55:43] , we're [2:55:43] always [2:55:44] actively seeking [2:55:45] new [2:55:45] opportunities for [2:55:46] community [2:55:46] involvement [2:55:48] , um, the support [2:55:48] from [2:55:48] the ad [2:55:49] advisory [2:55:49] and [2:55:50] foundation [2:55:50] boards, the [2:55:51] uh the [2:55:52] dedication of all the [2:55:52] staff [2:55:53] of [2:55:53] volunteers [2:55:53] , and I [2:55:54] would really [2:55:54] like to highlight [2:55:55] the lack [2:55:55] of [2:55:55] turnover [2:55:56] in staff [2:55:56] and [2:55:57] volunteers is [2:55:58] one of [2:55:58] the [2:55:59] biggest things [2:55:59] that we that we [2:56:01] have [2:56:01] going, so [2:56:02] , um, you guys [2:56:03] , [2:56:03] if you, if you [2:56:03] look [2:56:04] at [2:56:04] the [2:56:04] roster [2:56:05] from the last [2:56:06] many [2:56:06] , many [2:56:06] years, we do [2:56:08] not have a lot [2:56:08] of [2:56:08] turnover and [2:56:10] that has been a [2:56:11] huge key [2:56:11] to our success, so [2:56:12] we're [2:56:12] trying to [2:56:13] hold things [2:56:13] together, you know, at all [2:56:13] costs [2:56:14] , and [2:56:15] that goes down to [2:56:15] the [2:56:16] volunteers [2:56:17] , the [2:56:18] superintendents as well. We [2:56:19] have a [2:56:19] really [2:56:20] good [2:56:20] longevity [2:56:21] with superintendents [2:56:22] , um, and [2:56:23] with that too [2:56:23] , when we do [2:56:23] have [2:56:24] a [2:56:24] change [2:56:25] , especially within [2:56:25] 4h [2:56:25] , [2:56:26] there's [2:56:26] a great [2:56:27] line of [2:56:28] succession [2:56:28] planning [2:56:29] because [2:56:29] next [2:56:29] thing you [2:56:30] know [2:56:30] , there's [2:56:31] someone [2:56:31] else ready to [2:56:32] step up [2:56:32] . [2:56:32] Um, and [2:56:33] then again [2:56:33] , what [2:56:34] flexibility [2:56:34] and [2:56:35] excellent [2:56:35] customer service. I mean, [2:56:36] that's what we show to [2:56:37] people [2:56:37] and [2:56:38] our customers, there's [2:56:38] really [2:56:39] , you [2:56:39] can't [2:56:40] , especially [2:56:40] when you're working with [2:56:42] discretionary funds [2:56:43] and [2:56:44] volunteers, you just there [2:56:44] , you [2:56:45] can't [2:56:46] really [2:56:46] draw [2:56:47] uh sometimes [2:56:48] black and white lines and you [2:56:49] just have to kind of work [2:56:49] with [2:56:50] people. You [2:56:50] need something [2:56:50] at [2:56:52] 7 [2:56:52] P.M. That's [2:56:53] when we got to do [2:56:53] it, right [2:56:53] ? Or you [2:56:54] need to [2:56:54] adapt [2:56:55] you need [2:56:55] to switch your day [2:56:56] . [2:56:56] It's just what we got to [2:56:57] do [2:56:57] . So [2:56:59] um, those have been [2:57:00] our [2:57:00] keys. [2:57:01] So we're gonna [2:57:01] get on to [2:57:02] the [2:57:02] guest speakers here [2:57:03] . So from [2:57:03] the Beakows [2:57:04] and Bill's Club, I [2:57:04] want to call up [2:57:05] Iris [2:57:05] De Serrano [2:57:14] Hi, my name [2:57:15] is Ariiserrano, and [2:57:16] I am a [2:57:16] Skagitt [2:57:17] County Forage [2:57:18] member [2:57:19] . 4h [2:57:20] has [2:57:21] provided [2:57:22] me [2:57:22] mentorship from trusted adult [2:57:23] leaders [2:57:24] and [2:57:24] has [2:57:25] empowered [2:57:26] me to [2:57:27] take on [2:57:30] important leadership [2:57:30] roles [2:57:31] . Through these roles [2:57:31] , I [2:57:31] have [2:57:32] learned how [2:57:33] to [2:57:33] speak [2:57:33] publicly [2:57:35] , gain responsibility [2:57:35] , [2:57:36] and become [2:57:37] a greater influence [2:57:38] in my community [2:57:40] . Do [2:57:40] these [2:57:41] skills that I have [2:57:41] learned [2:57:42] , I [2:57:42] , [2:57:43] which I love [2:57:43] practicing at fair [2:57:47] I am now [2:57:47] beyond ready for [2:57:49] careers and life [2:57:49] . The greatest [2:57:51] challenge in my [2:57:51] forage career [2:57:52] so far [2:57:53] has been [2:57:53] my [2:57:54] latest [2:57:54] presidency [2:57:55] . Being [2:57:56] PRESIDENT Of [2:57:56] my [2:57:57] 4h [2:57:58] club [2:57:58] helps me [2:57:59] understand [2:57:59] the steps that [2:58:00] are taken [2:58:00] in [2:58:01] order to make for [2:58:01] a [2:58:01] more [2:58:03] inclusive community for all [2:58:05] . It [2:58:07] has empowered me with the [2:58:08] skills to lead for [2:58:09] a lifetime [2:58:09] . [2:58:10] After having chickens [2:58:11] for [2:58:11] a [2:58:12] while, my mom [2:58:12] and I decided [2:58:13] to [2:58:14] try 4h [2:58:15] . Do [2:58:16] you trusted adult [2:58:17] leaders, I was able to [2:58:18] build [2:58:19] positive relationships with [2:58:19] other youth [2:58:20] and [2:58:21] create memories [2:58:21] at events such as the fair [2:58:25] . I [2:58:25] am glad that I [2:58:26] was one [2:58:27] of [2:58:27] the [2:58:27] 6 [2:58:28] million youth [2:58:29] that forage has [2:58:30] reached throughout our country [2:58:36] . [2:58:37] 4h is important to [2:58:38] our [2:58:39] communities because of the [2:58:40] large [2:58:40] impact [2:58:41] they [2:58:41] edit [2:58:41] has [2:58:42] on [2:58:43] today's youth [2:58:43] . I've [2:58:44] seen [2:58:45] everyday [2:58:46] kids [2:58:47] grow [2:58:47] into [2:58:48] passionate individuals who are [2:58:49] hungry to [2:58:50] learn and [2:58:50] ready to [2:58:50] take on [2:58:51] the world [2:58:53] . 4h [2:58:53] empowers [2:58:54] kids to make the [2:58:55] best better, [2:58:55] pushing them to [2:58:56] always try [2:58:57] harder and to never [2:58:58] give up [2:58:59] . [2:58:59] Fortunes are also [2:59:00] 3 times [2:59:01] more [2:59:01] likely to [2:59:02] participate [2:59:02] in [2:59:04] community involvement. That [2:59:05] could mean [2:59:05] picking [2:59:06] up trash [2:59:06] , [2:59:06] showing [2:59:07] up fare [2:59:08] , or [2:59:08] even having [2:59:09] a fundraiser for a [2:59:10] local club [2:59:11] . [2:59:11] Forage [2:59:11] helps [2:59:12] us [2:59:12] enjoy giving [2:59:13] back to [2:59:13] our communities [2:59:15] . Some [2:59:15] friendships [2:59:16] and connections [2:59:17] I've made in [2:59:17] 4h [2:59:19] are [2:59:19] with other [2:59:20] members [2:59:21] , leaders [2:59:21] , or [2:59:21] breeders [2:59:21] of [2:59:22] my animal [2:59:23] . Most [2:59:23] of [2:59:24] these [2:59:24] connections were made [2:59:25] at [2:59:27] forge-related events. For [2:59:28] example [2:59:28] , when I was a member of [2:59:29] the Ad [2:59:30] Career [2:59:31] Ambassadors, I [2:59:31] was [2:59:32] able to go to [2:59:32] the [2:59:32] Watcombe [2:59:33] Career Fair and [2:59:33] the Country [2:59:35] Living [2:59:35] Expo [2:59:36] . At these [2:59:36] events [2:59:36] , I [2:59:37] explained to people [2:59:37] what [2:59:39] 4h [2:59:39] was [2:59:39] and [2:59:40] the [2:59:40] positive outcomes [2:59:41] of [2:59:41] joining [2:59:42] . Although other events [2:59:43] are fun [2:59:44] , almost [2:59:44] all of [2:59:44] my [2:59:45] favorite forage [2:59:46] memories happen [2:59:46] at [2:59:46] the fair [2:59:47] . I love [2:59:47] the [2:59:48] thrill [2:59:49] of showing [2:59:50] my [2:59:50] animal [2:59:51] and being [2:59:51] able to [2:59:52] connect [2:59:52] with people [2:59:53] from numerous backgrounds [2:59:55] . The [2:59:56] the fair is a [2:59:57] truly [2:59:57] inspiring [2:59:58] experience, and it is [2:59:59] the [2:59:59] highlight of [3:00:00] my forage here [3:00:04] . 4h [3:00:04] is [3:00:05] our [3:00:05] nation's largest [3:00:11] youth [3:00:11] developmental organization [3:00:13] . It [3:00:13] has [3:00:14] supplied [3:00:15] my [3:00:16] family [3:00:16] with a [3:00:18] interactive environment for all [3:00:22] Through 4h, we [3:00:22] have [3:00:23] learned [3:00:24] how [3:00:24] to speak [3:00:25] publicly [3:00:25] and [3:00:25] act [3:00:25] confident [3:00:27] . Before we joined [3:00:28] , my [3:00:29] siblings used to be very shy, [3:00:30] but now they can carry [3:00:31] on [3:00:31] a [3:00:32] conversation conversation [3:00:33] with [3:00:34] just about anyone [3:00:34] , especially [3:00:34] at fair [3:00:37] . 4h has [3:00:38] made [3:00:38] a large [3:00:39] impact on my [3:00:40] family's life [3:00:40] . It [3:00:41] is [3:00:42] a [3:00:42] big [3:00:43] part of [3:00:44] our day to day [3:00:45] livelihood [3:00:47] Thank you [3:00:57] Hello [3:00:58] I'm [3:00:59] Louise [3:00:59] Deerrano. I'm [3:01:00] a [3:01:00] current [3:01:01] 4h [3:01:01] leader and I [3:01:03] lead poultry [3:01:03] , [3:01:04] which makes me [3:01:05] very excited [3:01:06] about this year's [3:01:06] theme for [3:01:06] the [3:01:06] fair [3:01:08] . So my [3:01:10] experience with [3:01:10] 4h [3:01:10] started 6 [3:01:11] years [3:01:12] ago [3:01:12] as a [3:01:12] parent [3:01:13] of [3:01:14] a 4Her [3:01:14] and a [3:01:14] few years [3:01:15] later [3:01:16] a [3:01:17] uh an opening to be the [3:01:19] poultry [3:01:19] leader happened and [3:01:20] I [3:01:21] just gladly jumped into that [3:01:22] position [3:01:22] . It [3:01:23] has been a goal [3:01:23] of [3:01:24] mine [3:01:25] to [3:01:25] provide thorough [3:01:26] and [3:01:26] accurate information [3:01:27] for all of [3:01:28] the kids that I [3:01:28] lead [3:01:29] to succeed [3:01:29] at [3:01:30] the project [3:01:31] . One [3:01:32] of [3:01:32] the [3:01:32] joys [3:01:33] of [3:01:34] being a [3:01:34] leader has [3:01:35] been [3:01:35] watching kids who [3:01:36] are [3:01:37] extremely [3:01:38] shy to the point where they [3:01:39] don't even want to talk [3:01:39] to [3:01:40] anyone outside [3:01:41] of [3:01:41] their family [3:01:42] actually be able to not [3:01:43] only [3:01:44] gain confidence to speak to me [3:01:44] , [3:01:45] but to speak [3:01:45] to [3:01:46] the public [3:01:48] . I [3:01:48] love [3:01:49] watching [3:01:50] kids do [3:01:50] their [3:01:53] showmanship competitions where [3:01:53] they [3:01:53] can talk [3:01:54] and interact [3:01:55] with [3:01:55] the [3:01:56] judge and share all of [3:01:56] the [3:01:57] knowledge that they [3:01:57] have gained [3:02:00] Some [3:02:01] of [3:02:01] the [3:02:02] relationships [3:02:02] that [3:02:02] I've [3:02:04] , uh, developed with [3:02:04] these [3:02:04] members and their [3:02:05] families [3:02:06] are [3:02:06] lasting. And I look [3:02:07] forward to [3:02:08] many [3:02:08] years [3:02:08] to [3:02:09] come [3:02:10] of [3:02:11] fair-going memories [3:02:12] . At the [3:02:12] fair [3:02:13] , the youth [3:02:15] tend [3:02:15] to bond [3:02:16] very [3:02:16] closely and have [3:02:17] a feeling [3:02:17] of [3:02:18] belonging [3:02:18] and family [3:02:20] . The [3:02:20] thing [3:02:21] I love [3:02:22] about [3:02:22] 4h [3:02:22] is [3:02:22] that [3:02:24] it [3:02:24] takes [3:02:24] kids [3:02:25] from [3:02:26] diverse [3:02:26] groups, whether it [3:02:27] be urban [3:02:28] or [3:02:29] rural, and they [3:02:29] can work [3:02:29] together on [3:02:30] the same [3:02:31] project [3:02:31] and learn [3:02:32] from each other [3:02:34] . [3:02:35] There's always [3:02:35] room [3:02:35] for growth [3:02:36] and leadership [3:02:37] in 4h [3:02:37] , and [3:02:38] kids [3:02:38] are [3:02:40] always encouraged to push a [3:02:40] little [3:02:40] bit [3:02:41] harder to learn [3:02:44] . I [3:02:44] stand behind what [3:02:45] the [3:02:46] 4h [3:02:46] clover [3:02:47] represents [3:02:47] , heart [3:02:49] , loving [3:02:49] and [3:02:49] caring for each other [3:02:50] , [3:02:51] encouraging [3:02:51] each other [3:02:53] . Hands [3:02:54] working and helping [3:02:54] each [3:02:54] other [3:02:55] out [3:02:56] . He [3:02:57] thinking through [3:02:58] different scenarios and coming [3:02:58] up [3:02:58] with [3:02:59] solutions [3:03:00] and health [3:03:00] , [3:03:00] living [3:03:01] a [3:03:01] healthy [3:03:02] lifestyle [3:03:02] and [3:03:03] demonstrating what that looks [3:03:03] like [3:03:04] to others [3:03:05] . It makes [3:03:06] me so [3:03:07] proud watching [3:03:07] these [3:03:09] kids [3:03:10] really shine when [3:03:11] they're able [3:03:11] to talk to [3:03:12] the public [3:03:12] about [3:03:12] their [3:03:13] projects that [3:03:14] they've [3:03:15] worked throughout their whole [3:03:16] year [3:03:16] , and [3:03:17] they [3:03:18] will gladly [3:03:19] show [3:03:19] their [3:03:20] animal to [3:03:20] folks at [3:03:21] the [3:03:21] fair and [3:03:22] the [3:03:22] educational [3:03:23] posters that [3:03:23] they've [3:03:24] made just [3:03:25] to teach [3:03:25] people [3:03:26] who've maybe [3:03:27] never been [3:03:27] around animals [3:03:27] , what [3:03:28] it's like [3:03:29] . Uh [3:03:30] , I [3:03:31] would [3:03:32] gladly [3:03:32] support [3:03:33] continuing [3:03:34] this legacy [3:03:35] , [3:03:36] um, all the [3:03:36] positive [3:03:37] fairgoing [3:03:39] memories [3:03:39] and just [3:03:39] the [3:03:41] foundation that 4h [3:03:41] gives [3:03:42] kids [3:03:42] for [3:03:43] life [3:03:43] , for [3:03:43] the [3:03:45] current [3:03:45] 4Hers [3:03:46] for [3:03:46] tomorrow's [3:03:47] 4Hers [3:03:47] and [3:03:48] tomorrow's leaders [3:03:49] . So thank [3:03:50] you [3:03:50] Thank you [3:03:56] Thanks [3:03:57] , Louise. [3:03:57] Um [3:03:58] , so just [3:03:59] , uh, a few comments [3:03:59] I had [3:03:59] . Um [3:04:00] , I [3:04:01] won upfront [3:04:01] , I [3:04:01] did [3:04:02] MISS [3:04:03] Out on [3:04:04] , um, introducing [3:04:04] Ashley Sis [3:04:05] , who's our [3:04:05] new [3:04:06] 4h [3:04:06] program coordinator [3:04:08] . So [3:04:08] she is [3:04:09] on board for her first [3:04:10] fare, so [3:04:10] it will [3:04:12] , uh, undoubtedly be a [3:04:13] very [3:04:14] immersive [3:04:15] experience [3:04:15] . It's [3:04:16] a jump [3:04:16] in for the [3:04:16] , the [3:04:17] fair [3:04:18] bath [3:04:18] . Um [3:04:19] , and then I [3:04:19] , I just [3:04:19] wanted [3:04:20] to highlight [3:04:20] a few [3:04:20] other [3:04:21] things [3:04:22] , um, you [3:04:22] know [3:04:23] , the [3:04:24] connectivity between the fair [3:04:25] and [3:04:25] 4h and and [3:04:26] how [3:04:26] cohesive [3:04:27] they are. So [3:04:28] the, you know [3:04:28] , the [3:04:29] 4h program is really paramount [3:04:29] to the [3:04:30] year around [3:04:32] , um, the [3:04:33] mentorship, the learning, so a [3:04:33] lot of that [3:04:33] stuff happens if [3:04:34] they [3:04:35] don't have [3:04:36] this 12-year, [3:04:36] 12 [3:04:37] month support [3:04:37] , they can't [3:04:37] show up to fair and [3:04:38] do [3:04:38] what [3:04:39] they do [3:04:39] . Also [3:04:40] , without [3:04:40] the fare [3:04:41] you don't [3:04:42] have what I [3:04:42] , I always [3:04:44] playfully referred to [3:04:44] as the [3:04:44] Super Bowl, right [3:04:45] ? So [3:04:45] without [3:04:46] that fare [3:04:46] there [3:04:46] , the [3:04:47] bright [3:04:47] lights and all [3:04:48] the [3:04:49] infrastructure that comes with [3:04:49] the [3:04:49] fair and even [3:04:50] the fun [3:04:50] that [3:04:51] happens outside the fair, right [3:04:52] ? The [3:04:52] kids they think, oh [3:04:53] , it's [3:04:54] 8 P.M. I [3:04:54] got to go on [3:04:55] the [3:04:55] carnival rides [3:04:55] . That's what [3:04:56] the [3:04:56] memories are made [3:04:57] of [3:04:57] . So it's [3:04:58] , [3:04:58] we can't [3:04:59] , the fair [3:05:00] forage [3:05:00] really can't [3:05:00] shine without that [3:05:01] big [3:05:01] event there [3:05:02] and some of [3:05:03] the [3:05:03] infrastructure that the fair [3:05:04] provides, but we also [3:05:05] can't [3:05:05] have kids just showing up [3:05:06] the [3:05:06] fair [3:05:06] . And [3:05:07] trying to do things, [3:05:07] right [3:05:08] ? So it's that [3:05:09] , it's that [3:05:09] they're [3:05:10] all connected, right [3:05:11] ? [3:05:11] So [3:05:11] , um, the [3:05:12] other [3:05:12] comment I [3:05:13] have, and I [3:05:13] , I do want [3:05:14] to [3:05:14] include ffa and [3:05:15] that ffa [3:05:15] tends [3:05:16] to [3:05:16] be very involved [3:05:17] , but they [3:05:17] are [3:05:18] a school-based [3:05:18] program and [3:05:19] so that [3:05:20] absolutely they show up [3:05:20] at the [3:05:20] fair and in [3:05:21] full steam [3:05:21] , [3:05:22] but some of [3:05:23] them might take [3:05:23] a [3:05:23] little [3:05:23] time [3:05:24] off [3:05:25] , um, this, you [3:05:25] know [3:05:26] , this time [3:05:26] of year [3:05:28] , but I [3:05:29] , [3:05:30] um, have [3:05:30] received [3:05:30] enough [3:05:31] information, even though I [3:05:32] might be [3:05:33] slightly biased [3:05:34] , um, [3:05:34] that our [3:05:34] fair [3:05:35] exhibitors are [3:05:36] world class when [3:05:36] it comes [3:05:37] to [3:05:37] their [3:05:38] then we [3:05:38] , when we [3:05:39] have [3:05:40] fair commissioners [3:05:40] , their [3:05:41] um [3:05:41] engagement level with [3:05:41] the [3:05:42] public, how [3:05:42] tidy their [3:05:42] barns [3:05:43] are and the work they do. And [3:05:43] again, I, this is [3:05:44] not coming [3:05:45] from me because [3:05:45] I think [3:05:45] that, [3:05:46] but I [3:05:46] also [3:05:46] have [3:05:47] not [3:05:48] um [3:05:48] necessarily bend every [3:05:49] fare, be [3:05:49] a management and other fare [3:05:50] , [3:05:50] but [3:05:50] I consistently get [3:05:51] this [3:05:51] , um [3:05:52] I got this from Francis [3:05:52] , our [3:05:53] assistant manager who's worked [3:05:54] at 3 fairgrounds. We [3:05:54] get this [3:05:54] from [3:05:54] fair [3:05:55] commissioners [3:05:55] at the [3:05:56] exhibitors here [3:05:57] are world [3:05:57] class [3:05:58] so [3:05:59] there's obviously [3:05:59] a [3:06:00] testament to [3:06:01] the kids [3:06:02] who are [3:06:02] here [3:06:02] , but this [3:06:03] is something [3:06:04] I've [3:06:05] consistently [3:06:05] heard [3:06:06] over [3:06:06] decades [3:06:07] and so a [3:06:07] lot of [3:06:08] credit [3:06:08] goes to [3:06:09] the youth, but a [3:06:09] lot of [3:06:09] that too [3:06:10] is the leaders, the [3:06:11] ffa advisors [3:06:12] , the [3:06:12] former 4h [3:06:13] program coordinators and [3:06:13] leaders because they're the [3:06:14] ones that are holding that [3:06:15] together and keeping that going [3:06:15] So some of these people that [3:06:16] have been around for [3:06:17] 30 years [3:06:18] and you've seen that [3:06:18] same [3:06:19] quality that's, that's [3:06:19] , it's [3:06:19] them [3:06:19] that [3:06:20] deserves [3:06:21] the [3:06:21] um shout [3:06:21] out [3:06:23] . So I just wanted [3:06:23] to give [3:06:23] a [3:06:24] few [3:06:25] of those [3:06:26] , um, thoughts [3:06:27] , um, [3:06:27] and then on that note too [3:06:28] , I [3:06:28] just, if you [3:06:29] guys are at the [3:06:29] fair, just [3:06:29] go talk [3:06:30] , talk to [3:06:30] some of [3:06:30] the [3:06:32] exhibitors [3:06:32] and [3:06:32] you'll [3:06:33] learn all sorts [3:06:33] of fun [3:06:34] facts [3:06:35] There's posters and [3:06:36] you'll learn things you never [3:06:37] thought you needed [3:06:37] to know [3:06:39] . Um [3:06:39] , [3:06:40] so I'm gonna leave this [3:06:40] slide [3:06:41] up, but this is just yours fair [3:06:41] This is how to get a hold [3:06:43] of us [3:06:44] um, our social [3:06:45] media [3:06:45] pages and [3:06:46] I'm gonna turn over to [3:06:48] commissioners [3:06:48] for final [3:06:48] comments [3:06:50] . Thank you very much, [3:06:50] Eric [3:06:52] . Really appreciate the [3:06:52] the [3:06:52] presentation and thank [3:06:53] you for [3:06:54] the [3:06:54] 4h leaders [3:06:55] and the [3:06:55] members [3:06:56] that [3:06:56] came in [3:06:57] here today [3:06:57] , we do [3:06:58] always [3:06:58] appreciate that [3:06:59] , uh, [3:06:59] having [3:06:59] a chance to come in [3:07:00] front of the [3:07:00] county [3:07:01] commissioners [3:07:01] . Commissioner [3:07:02] Burns, do you have [3:07:03] any comments [3:07:03] or [3:07:04] any thoughts [3:07:04] ? I think [3:07:05] what [3:07:06] you all have been doing [3:07:06] is [3:07:06] awesome, that it's [3:07:08] , uh, it's [3:07:08] self-funded, it's [3:07:09] even better [3:07:10] for [3:07:10] us [3:07:11] , um, but I [3:07:12] appreciate [3:07:13] the programs and [3:07:13] the [3:07:13] opportunities for kids [3:07:14] , [3:07:15] especially [3:07:15] , and [3:07:15] to learn [3:07:16] new [3:07:17] skills [3:07:17] , learn [3:07:17] about some [3:07:18] life [3:07:18] lessons [3:07:19] along [3:07:19] the way [3:07:20] , and I [3:07:20] think it also [3:07:21] helps you [3:07:21] with [3:07:22] finance [3:07:22] because you [3:07:22] , you have [3:07:23] to [3:07:23] think about [3:07:23] the feed for [3:07:24] the [3:07:25] animals and the [3:07:25] care and all [3:07:26] the things [3:07:26] that go into [3:07:27] it [3:07:27] . And [3:07:27] so [3:07:30] , uh, all around [3:07:30] , a lot [3:07:31] of [3:07:31] great [3:07:32] things going on at the [3:07:32] fairgrounds [3:07:33] , so [3:07:33] I appreciate [3:07:34] you and the staff that helped [3:07:34] make it work. We look forward [3:07:35] to having you out [3:07:35] for your [3:07:36] first fair. There's [3:07:36] some [3:07:38] judging responsibilities, so no [3:07:38] pressure. Sounds [3:07:39] good. I [3:07:39] saw [3:07:40] it's already on the [3:07:40] calendar. [3:07:40] Yep. Um [3:07:42] . Commissioner Browning [3:07:43] , [3:07:43] any [3:07:44] comments? Well, yeah [3:07:44] , I, I [3:07:45] was both [3:07:45] an ffa [3:07:46] and [3:07:46] a 4h kit. [3:07:46] If you had [3:07:47] to ask me which [3:07:48] I [3:07:48] like [3:07:48] better [3:07:49] , the [3:07:49] mothers were [3:07:50] better cooks of [3:07:51] baked goods [3:07:51] and [3:07:51] cookies in the 4h and [3:07:53] FFAs [3:07:53] . So [3:07:54] clearly always [3:07:55] , always [3:07:56] a forest [3:07:56] Yeah, I just [3:07:57] , it [3:07:58] was great [3:07:58] . Um [3:07:59] , [3:07:59] Irish [3:08:00] , nice [3:08:00] job talking [3:08:00] . That [3:08:01] was [3:08:01] great [3:08:01] . That [3:08:02] was [3:08:03] just great [3:08:03] . [3:08:03] And Louise [3:08:04] , thank [3:08:04] you for [3:08:04] being [3:08:05] in [3:08:05] charge [3:08:06] of that group [3:08:06] , and [3:08:06] it's [3:08:07] really great [3:08:08] . Ashley, [3:08:09] welcome [3:08:09] . It's so [3:08:10] nice to have [3:08:10] you here [3:08:11] , but [3:08:12] , uh, yeah, the [3:08:12] , [3:08:12] the [3:08:13] fairs are just [3:08:13] a riot [3:08:13] . [3:08:14] They're so much fun and I have [3:08:14] a [3:08:15] long [3:08:15] history of, of [3:08:15] going to [3:08:16] fairs and meeting new friends, [3:08:17] having a good time, and just [3:08:18] having one of the best parts of [3:08:18] the summer [3:08:19] . So [3:08:20] enjoy [3:08:20] yourself [3:08:20] in 2 weeks [3:08:21] , 3 [3:08:22] , almost a month [3:08:22] . [3:08:23] Something like that, yeah [3:08:24] . I'll [3:08:24] be there. I can use all the [3:08:25] time we can get, so [3:08:26] , and I [3:08:26] do [3:08:27] get to judge [3:08:27] the [3:08:27] 4h this year [3:08:28] . [3:08:29] So, if you see me [3:08:29] around, just [3:08:30] be really nice so [3:08:31] you can make [3:08:31] me [3:08:32] want to [3:08:33] make yours [3:08:33] the best [3:08:34] of display. Is that [3:08:36] right [3:08:36] right [3:08:37] All right. So [3:08:38] thank [3:08:38] you. Yeah [3:08:38] , [3:08:39] thank you very much [3:08:40] . Uh, I [3:08:40] was [3:08:41] in 4h [3:08:41] and ffa [3:08:42] years ago [3:08:42] and [3:08:43] really [3:08:43] uh definitely [3:08:44] enjoyed [3:08:45] the fair [3:08:45] was [3:08:46] thinking [3:08:46] on [3:08:47] the [3:08:47] first [3:08:47] animal I showed [3:08:48] , I think [3:08:48] it [3:08:49] was 1970. I was [3:08:49] a [3:08:50] Scotch [3:08:50] County Fair [3:08:51] , so it's [3:08:51] a [3:08:52] 56 years [3:08:53] or something [3:08:54] . So, uh, it' [3:08:54] s [3:08:54] a [3:08:55] great event, a lot [3:08:55] of good [3:08:56] friends and everything are able [3:08:56] to [3:08:57] come together and [3:08:58] all the [3:08:58] good [3:08:59] volunteers and all the [3:09:00] parents [3:09:01] and um all the kids. [3:09:01] It's, it's [3:09:02] really a good event [3:09:03] . [3:09:03] i'm really [3:09:04] , uh, I appreciate [3:09:04] all [3:09:04] the time [3:09:05] and [3:09:05] effort. Um [3:09:07] , we [3:09:07] have [3:09:08] a dog [3:09:08] training [3:09:09] facility at [3:09:09] our [3:09:09] home [3:09:10] and [3:09:11] um definitely [3:09:11] the [3:09:12] 4h Club comes and uses [3:09:13] it every [3:09:13] week [3:09:13] and so forth [3:09:14] , and we [3:09:16] definitely support the kids and [3:09:17] all the things they do. My wife [3:09:19] was really involved in forage [3:09:20] . [3:09:21] Down in California and so [3:09:21] uh we [3:09:23] definitely appreciate all what [3:09:23] 4h has done over the [3:09:25] years and [3:09:25] , [3:09:26] um, it's a great program, so [3:09:28] hope you enjoy it and, and [3:09:29] , uh, [3:09:30] come back many, many years in [3:09:31] the future [3:09:34] . I [3:09:34] want to ask a [3:09:34] question on the [3:09:36] facilities. How [3:09:37] are they doing? Are they [3:09:38] , now [3:09:38] we have a [3:09:39] facility [3:09:39] manager in [3:09:39] charge of the [3:09:41] fair grounds. I [3:09:41] don't know if Ken's gone [3:09:41] through [3:09:43] , but do you have any? [3:09:43] Yeah, I [3:09:44] think you [3:09:44] , you [3:09:45] mentioned some projects you had [3:09:46] going on and parking lot [3:09:47] Yeah, [3:09:48] I mean, we've [3:09:48] we've, um, I mean [3:09:50] we've, I mean [3:09:50] we've [3:09:52] done a lot [3:09:52] to [3:09:52] try and, and, and [3:09:53] , you know [3:09:54] , [3:09:54] move away from deferred [3:09:55] maintenance. It definitely [3:09:56] had [3:09:56] had gone into a phase there, [3:09:57] but we are [3:09:57] making [3:09:58] big [3:09:59] strides [3:09:59] , [3:10:00] um, I see a new a [3:10:01] new [3:10:01] restroom [3:10:01] facility was a [3:10:02] huge thing [3:10:04] . I [3:10:04] think with the [3:10:05] , if [3:10:05] the wsda [3:10:06] grants were able to make some [3:10:08] ground, right, with [3:10:08] the [3:10:08] paving [3:10:09] project [3:10:10] , um, a [3:10:11] lot of [3:10:11] that is [3:10:12] those are pretty high [3:10:12] value [3:10:12] projects so I [3:10:13] mean we [3:10:13] , we're [3:10:14] keeping up with it. I [3:10:14] think the [3:10:15] other thing is [3:10:15] that you know [3:10:16] in [3:10:17] 2023 we were able to put [3:10:17] the [3:10:18] funding together for [3:10:18] a [3:10:19] year-round [3:10:19] maintenance person [3:10:20] um at [3:10:20] the fairgrounds [3:10:20] , so we [3:10:21] have [3:10:22] that [3:10:23] . We've been able to [3:10:24] do a lot of things behind the [3:10:24] scenes [3:10:25] on [3:10:26] that as well. So [3:10:28] , um, [3:10:28] I [3:10:29] , yeah, we have a lot of [3:10:29] things [3:10:30] in this grant. I [3:10:31] honestly for our [3:10:31] next grant [3:10:31] cycle [3:10:32] , I [3:10:32] don't [3:10:33] have anything [3:10:33] that's [3:10:35] , uh, that's glaring [3:10:35] right now [3:10:35] at me for [3:10:36] , for doing [3:10:36] that, but we [3:10:37] will definitely [3:10:38] take advantage of it if there's [3:10:38] state [3:10:39] funds available, but I [3:10:39] think [3:10:40] we [3:10:40] are [3:10:41] , um, looking good [3:10:42] . [3:10:43] I know though that [3:10:44] there's [3:10:45] always room [3:10:46] for more [3:10:46] , and some [3:10:47] of that goes out to the clubs [3:10:48] too. I [3:10:48] know that [3:10:49] the 4h [3:10:50] group [3:10:50] is [3:10:52] , um, fundraising for [3:10:52] a [3:10:52] tractor [3:10:53] right now to help [3:10:53] with [3:10:54] the arena. So there, there's [3:10:54] always more needs [3:10:55] , um, but we [3:10:55] are, we're pretty [3:10:57] proud of [3:10:57] , of [3:10:57] , [3:10:58] of where we're at right now [3:10:59] . Um [3:11:00] but we, we do try [3:11:00] and take [3:11:01] everything on [3:11:02] what's [3:11:02] , what's [3:11:03] the biggest bang for our [3:11:03] buck [3:11:04] for [3:11:04] the public [3:11:05] value is always [3:11:05] what we're looking at [3:11:06] , but you [3:11:07] guys will [3:11:07] notice we're doing [3:11:08] the paving [3:11:08] project in [3:11:09] OCTOBER [3:11:09] and that was one is [3:11:10] pretty [3:11:10] visible right when you drive on [3:11:11] the north gate [3:11:12] . So we're we're [3:11:13] looking forward to that [3:11:13] . Yeah, [3:11:14] thank you [3:11:15] very much for that. [3:11:15] We had [3:11:16] a study done [3:11:17] 3 [3:11:17] or 4 [3:11:18] years ago. One of the things we [3:11:20] looked at affordable housing in [3:11:21] the county, where is [3:11:22] that [3:11:22] available to do it and look at [3:11:23] County [3:11:24] owned properties, and [3:11:25] one of them was [3:11:25] the [3:11:25] fairgrounds [3:11:26] and [3:11:27] the [3:11:27] senior center just [3:11:28] north of the fairgrounds and [3:11:30] basically, yes [3:11:31] , it's [3:11:31] a [3:11:32] potential [3:11:33] for [3:11:33] housing [3:11:33] , but to [3:11:34] replace [3:11:35] the fairgrounds, it [3:11:36] wasn't [3:11:37] economical to [3:11:38] replace [3:11:38] the [3:11:38] fairgrounds [3:11:39] with [3:11:39] housing [3:11:40] because there isn't [3:11:40] enough [3:11:41] margin there for [3:11:41] a builder [3:11:42] to [3:11:42] buy [3:11:43] the fairgrounds and [3:11:43] build a [3:11:43] new [3:11:45] fairground someplace to [3:11:45] make that happen. So I [3:11:47] just [3:11:48] want everybody to be [3:11:49] aware that [3:11:50] yes, we looked at it [3:11:50] , but [3:11:50] it's [3:11:50] not [3:11:51] going anywhere [3:11:51] from [3:11:51] my [3:11:52] perspective [3:11:53] , so you're and [3:11:53] the [3:11:54] staff and [3:11:54] the staff [3:11:55] is looking [3:11:55] at [3:11:55] it from, you [3:11:56] know [3:11:56] , we are [3:11:57] looking at, we're, I mean [3:11:58] , I, [3:11:58] it [3:11:59] is hard to [3:12:00] look 50 years [3:12:00] down the road [3:12:01] with funding. We, [3:12:01] we are looking 5 [3:12:02] , 1015 years, [3:12:02] and that's our goal. It's some [3:12:03] , [3:12:03] some days [3:12:03] you're looking 5 [3:12:04] years down [3:12:05] the road. Some days [3:12:06] it's 10, sometimes [3:12:07] it's 15. The [3:12:07] next day it's back [3:12:08] to [3:12:08] 2, but [3:12:09] we [3:12:09] are [3:12:10] , we are looking at those [3:12:10] things and so we [3:12:11] are looking at [3:12:12] with longevity in the [3:12:12] current [3:12:13] site [3:12:14] and investing [3:12:14] in it [3:12:14] a lot [3:12:15] and so [3:12:16] , um, we [3:12:16] again, when [3:12:16] you [3:12:17] guys invest in that even [3:12:18] with [3:12:19] our foundation or the projects [3:12:19] we help the [3:12:19] horse [3:12:20] department [3:12:21] . [3:12:21] Please know that [3:12:22] your [3:12:22] committing towards [3:12:23] a [3:12:24] sustainable [3:12:24] thing and again [3:12:25] we've talked about the funding [3:12:25] level [3:12:26] of self-funded, so [3:12:27] there [3:12:28] is, we [3:12:28] are going to [3:12:28] work [3:12:29] to [3:12:29] work very [3:12:30] very [3:12:30] hard and we have [3:12:31] to work harder every year [3:12:31] to [3:12:32] sustain it, but it [3:12:32] does have [3:12:34] some stable [3:12:34] footing if we can [3:12:35] continue to [3:12:37] get community [3:12:37] support, so we just want to [3:12:38] know that you're giving to [3:12:39] something sustainable, and we [3:12:39] also at the same [3:12:41] time do very [3:12:41] much need [3:12:41] everyone's help [3:12:43] . Very [3:12:43] good. Thank you [3:12:44] very much. Any [3:12:44] other [3:12:45] questions, comments [3:12:48] ? So [3:12:48] with that, we're going to [3:12:49] adjourn for a couple of minutes [3:12:50] and then we have our [3:12:50] budget [3:12:51] meeting with all [3:12:52] our [3:12:52] different