1 00:00:14,239 --> 00:00:14,473 County commissioners to order, 2 00:00:14,473 --> 00:00:14,773 to 3 00:00:14,773 --> 00:00:15,474 at 4 00:00:15,474 --> 00:00:16,410 11:30. Good morning. I 5 00:00:16,410 --> 00:00:16,441 call this 6 00:00:16,441 --> 00:00:16,675 sessions cat 7 00:00:16,675 --> 00:00:17,209 on 8 00:00:17,209 --> 00:00:17,809 AUGUST 24 9 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:19,411 , 25th 10 00:00:19,411 --> 00:00:19,580 , 2026 11 00:00:19,580 --> 00:00:20,379 , please 12 00:00:20,379 --> 00:00:24,349 join me in salute to our flag 13 00:00:24,349 --> 00:00:24,582 . 14 00:00:24,582 --> 00:00:26,384 I 15 00:00:26,384 --> 00:00:26,685 pledge allegiance to 16 00:00:26,685 --> 00:00:27,252 the flag 17 00:00:27,252 --> 00:00:28,453 of the United 18 00:00:28,453 --> 00:00:28,854 States 19 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:29,760 of 20 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:29,387 America 21 00:00:29,387 --> 00:00:30,923 and to 22 00:00:30,923 --> 00:00:32,923 the republic for 23 00:00:32,991 --> 00:00:33,559 one 24 00:00:33,559 --> 00:00:35,559 nation under GOD 25 00:00:35,660 --> 00:00:36,280 , indivisible 26 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,563 butberty 27 00:00:37,563 --> 00:00:39,963 and justice for all 28 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,735 . 29 00:00:42,735 --> 00:00:43,869 Nice to have a large crowd 30 00:00:43,869 --> 00:00:44,603 in 31 00:00:44,603 --> 00:00:44,970 here today, so thank you very 32 00:00:44,970 --> 00:00:46,538 much for 33 00:00:46,538 --> 00:00:46,971 being here 34 00:00:46,971 --> 00:00:48,674 . Um 35 00:00:48,674 --> 00:00:49,475 , just a 36 00:00:49,475 --> 00:00:51,430 reminder, the 3 minute 37 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:51,710 public 38 00:00:51,710 --> 00:00:53,278 comment and 39 00:00:53,278 --> 00:00:53,812 uh the buzzer goes 40 00:00:53,812 --> 00:00:55,314 off for 2 minutes 41 00:00:55,314 --> 00:00:56,181 and then at 3 42 00:00:56,181 --> 00:00:57,516 minutes it blares, keeps 43 00:00:57,516 --> 00:00:57,745 going 44 00:00:57,745 --> 00:00:58,217 , 45 00:00:58,217 --> 00:00:58,484 and we will ask you 46 00:00:58,484 --> 00:00:59,952 to 47 00:00:59,952 --> 00:01:00,286 respect 48 00:01:00,286 --> 00:01:00,853 that 49 00:01:00,853 --> 00:01:02,488 . Um, if the 50 00:01:02,488 --> 00:01:02,655 crowd gets 51 00:01:02,655 --> 00:01:03,220 too 52 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:05,220 disoriented 53 00:01:05,391 --> 00:01:05,992 , we MAY close 54 00:01:05,992 --> 00:01:06,692 public comment, and 55 00:01:06,692 --> 00:01:07,259 we will 56 00:01:07,259 --> 00:01:07,493 just shut it down 57 00:01:07,493 --> 00:01:07,760 , so, just 58 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,827 give 59 00:01:08,827 --> 00:01:09,295 you 60 00:01:09,295 --> 00:01:09,562 a warning how 61 00:01:09,562 --> 00:01:11,497 that 62 00:01:11,497 --> 00:01:12,131 works. How many want to have 63 00:01:12,131 --> 00:01:14,131 public comments? Today 64 00:01:15,834 --> 00:01:16,268 ? Just 6 65 00:01:16,268 --> 00:01:17,770 or so, so 66 00:01:17,770 --> 00:01:18,203 , ok 67 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:18,471 , who wants to 68 00:01:18,471 --> 00:01:18,904 go 69 00:01:18,904 --> 00:01:20,273 first? Go 70 00:01:20,273 --> 00:01:22,273 ahead, Darryl 71 00:01:40,593 --> 00:01:41,327 . Good 72 00:01:41,327 --> 00:01:42,395 morning, commissioners 73 00:01:42,395 --> 00:01:42,695 and 74 00:01:42,695 --> 00:01:43,730 clerk 75 00:01:43,730 --> 00:01:45,164 . I'll start 76 00:01:45,164 --> 00:01:46,866 by saying um 77 00:01:46,866 --> 00:01:47,133 . 78 00:01:47,133 --> 00:01:47,834 I 79 00:01:47,834 --> 00:01:48,234 , I cannot keep it to 3 80 00:01:48,234 --> 00:01:49,635 minutes, so 81 00:01:49,635 --> 00:01:49,798 I'm going to make 82 00:01:49,798 --> 00:01:50,203 a 83 00:01:50,203 --> 00:01:51,437 synopsis before 84 00:01:51,437 --> 00:01:51,971 I 85 00:01:51,971 --> 00:01:52,605 start today 86 00:01:52,605 --> 00:01:53,940 I'm here 87 00:01:53,940 --> 00:01:55,940 to encourage 88 00:01:55,942 --> 00:01:56,443 . The 89 00:01:56,443 --> 00:01:56,810 commissioners to 90 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:58,544 consider a 91 00:01:58,544 --> 00:01:59,179 or 92 00:01:59,179 --> 00:02:00,680 reconsider a portion of 93 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,547 their 94 00:02:01,547 --> 00:02:02,615 budget proposal for the future 95 00:02:02,615 --> 00:02:03,316 . 96 00:02:03,316 --> 00:02:03,616 And that is of the 97 00:02:03,616 --> 00:02:03,950 coroner's 98 00:02:03,950 --> 00:02:05,218 office 99 00:02:05,218 --> 00:02:05,685 number one 100 00:02:05,685 --> 00:02:07,320 . We 101 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:07,854 have a 102 00:02:07,854 --> 00:02:09,489 situation where 103 00:02:09,489 --> 00:02:09,756 If 104 00:02:09,756 --> 00:02:10,523 the 105 00:02:10,523 --> 00:02:11,791 coroner's loses 106 00:02:11,791 --> 00:02:12,125 1/3 107 00:02:12,125 --> 00:02:12,425 of their 108 00:02:12,425 --> 00:02:14,270 staff 109 00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:14,694 . We 110 00:02:14,694 --> 00:02:17,940 have some issues that 111 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:18,998 Concerned 112 00:02:18,998 --> 00:02:20,998 state law and 113 00:02:21,134 --> 00:02:21,435 If 114 00:02:21,435 --> 00:02:23,270 we 115 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:23,637 don't observe 116 00:02:23,637 --> 00:02:24,710 these mandates, 117 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:25,605 we will 118 00:02:25,605 --> 00:02:26,239 lose accreditation with 119 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:27,907 the state and lose 120 00:02:27,907 --> 00:02:28,241 money 121 00:02:28,241 --> 00:02:28,842 , 122 00:02:28,842 --> 00:02:29,910 possibly more than we 123 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:30,277 would 124 00:02:30,277 --> 00:02:30,743 gain by 125 00:02:30,743 --> 00:02:31,979 cutting two from 126 00:02:31,979 --> 00:02:32,546 the 127 00:02:32,546 --> 00:02:33,460 staff in the future 128 00:02:33,460 --> 00:02:34,781 . So 129 00:02:34,781 --> 00:02:35,182 With 130 00:02:35,182 --> 00:02:36,650 that said 131 00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:37,500 , We 132 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:37,517 have some 133 00:02:37,517 --> 00:02:38,886 things 134 00:02:38,886 --> 00:02:39,585 to 135 00:02:39,585 --> 00:02:41,870 at least consider 136 00:02:41,870 --> 00:02:41,355 . And that 137 00:02:41,355 --> 00:02:41,955 is 138 00:02:41,955 --> 00:02:43,423 When 139 00:02:43,423 --> 00:02:43,623 you cut 140 00:02:43,623 --> 00:02:43,891 a 141 00:02:43,891 --> 00:02:44,391 staff, I've 142 00:02:44,391 --> 00:02:45,625 had as many 143 00:02:45,625 --> 00:02:45,859 as 144 00:02:45,859 --> 00:02:46,160 300 145 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,660 employees, 146 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:48,620 and when 147 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:48,362 you put 148 00:02:48,362 --> 00:02:48,862 too much 149 00:02:48,862 --> 00:02:50,697 pressure on them 150 00:02:50,697 --> 00:02:51,165 , burnout 151 00:02:51,165 --> 00:02:52,733 causes 152 00:02:52,733 --> 00:02:53,600 resignations and you 153 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,202 can't afford very many 154 00:02:55,202 --> 00:02:55,669 in this 155 00:02:55,669 --> 00:02:57,337 small staff 156 00:02:57,337 --> 00:02:57,671 . In order to 157 00:02:57,671 --> 00:02:58,205 keep 158 00:02:58,205 --> 00:02:59,540 accreditation with 159 00:02:59,540 --> 00:02:59,807 the state to 160 00:02:59,807 --> 00:03:01,242 get 161 00:03:01,242 --> 00:03:01,542 the 162 00:03:01,542 --> 00:03:02,800 federal 163 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:02,309 subsidy funding 164 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:03,943 that 165 00:03:03,943 --> 00:03:05,779 the state provides 166 00:03:05,779 --> 00:03:06,781 . So 167 00:03:06,781 --> 00:03:08,582 Here's a 168 00:03:08,582 --> 00:03:08,883 few things that can 169 00:03:08,883 --> 00:03:10,883 happen 170 00:03:11,184 --> 00:03:12,520 . That 171 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:12,887 we're 172 00:03:12,887 --> 00:03:13,387 not 173 00:03:13,387 --> 00:03:15,387 anticipating today 174 00:03:15,423 --> 00:03:15,690 . And that is 175 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:15,956 a 176 00:03:15,956 --> 00:03:17,191 surge 177 00:03:17,191 --> 00:03:17,458 on 178 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:17,725 this 179 00:03:17,725 --> 00:03:18,125 particular 180 00:03:18,125 --> 00:03:19,593 coroner's 181 00:03:19,593 --> 00:03:20,261 office one 182 00:03:20,261 --> 00:03:22,261 . Would be 183 00:03:22,830 --> 00:03:24,830 Possibly a tsunami 184 00:03:26,601 --> 00:03:27,134 . A flood of 185 00:03:27,134 --> 00:03:29,134 the Skagit River 186 00:03:29,436 --> 00:03:30,605 . A pileup 187 00:03:30,605 --> 00:03:30,904 on 188 00:03:30,904 --> 00:03:31,839 I-5 189 00:03:31,839 --> 00:03:33,839 . An earthquake 190 00:03:35,242 --> 00:03:36,430 a landslide. 191 00:03:36,430 --> 00:03:37,344 We all know about Oso 192 00:03:37,344 --> 00:03:37,712 , a mass 193 00:03:37,712 --> 00:03:38,279 shooting 194 00:03:38,279 --> 00:03:39,546 . Or 195 00:03:39,546 --> 00:03:39,881 a 196 00:03:39,881 --> 00:03:40,214 bad month 197 00:03:40,214 --> 00:03:40,414 of 198 00:03:40,414 --> 00:03:42,316 f 199 00:03:42,316 --> 00:03:44,316 fentanyl overdose 200 00:03:44,419 --> 00:03:46,419 . These case 201 00:03:46,988 --> 00:03:48,988 Loads will 202 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:49,557 Outstretch our 203 00:03:49,557 --> 00:03:51,225 ability 204 00:03:51,225 --> 00:03:51,492 of what the corners can 205 00:03:51,492 --> 00:03:51,926 do 206 00:03:51,926 --> 00:03:53,161 right 207 00:03:53,161 --> 00:03:53,627 now and 208 00:03:53,627 --> 00:03:54,162 everything 209 00:03:54,162 --> 00:03:55,563 goes on the side 210 00:03:55,563 --> 00:03:55,897 and gets 211 00:03:55,897 --> 00:03:56,464 delayed 212 00:03:56,464 --> 00:03:58,299 . In 213 00:03:58,299 --> 00:03:58,833 addition to losing 214 00:03:58,833 --> 00:04:00,833 the state subsidy 215 00:04:00,835 --> 00:04:01,169 . I've 216 00:04:01,169 --> 00:04:02,537 provided 217 00:04:02,537 --> 00:04:03,138 you with some notes. I 218 00:04:03,138 --> 00:04:04,272 have some more that 219 00:04:04,272 --> 00:04:04,639 I'll leave 220 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:05,240 with you 221 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,674 . We have a full 222 00:04:06,674 --> 00:04:07,275 house, 223 00:04:07,275 --> 00:04:07,608 but I want to 224 00:04:07,608 --> 00:04:08,877 end by 225 00:04:08,877 --> 00:04:09,177 saying 226 00:04:09,177 --> 00:04:11,177 this 227 00:04:13,682 --> 00:04:14,820 . We want 228 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:14,482 to 229 00:04:14,482 --> 00:04:15,784 thank Coroner 230 00:04:15,784 --> 00:04:16,718 Haley Thompson 231 00:04:16,718 --> 00:04:18,353 . Extraordinaire 232 00:04:18,353 --> 00:04:18,987 . 233 00:04:18,987 --> 00:04:20,322 For 10 years of 234 00:04:20,322 --> 00:04:20,788 great service 235 00:04:20,788 --> 00:04:22,623 to this county 236 00:04:22,623 --> 00:04:22,891 . She 237 00:04:22,891 --> 00:04:23,225 leaves 238 00:04:23,225 --> 00:04:25,225 behind 239 00:04:25,694 --> 00:04:26,962 . This county 7 240 00:04:26,962 --> 00:04:27,162 in 241 00:04:27,162 --> 00:04:27,496 this 242 00:04:27,496 --> 00:04:27,796 state 243 00:04:27,796 --> 00:04:29,464 for 244 00:04:29,464 --> 00:04:29,931 accreditation 245 00:04:29,931 --> 00:04:30,432 . Number 246 00:04:30,432 --> 00:04:32,432 39 nationally 247 00:04:33,769 --> 00:04:34,468 . This state or 248 00:04:34,468 --> 00:04:36,304 this county is accredited 249 00:04:36,304 --> 00:04:38,304 . And 250 00:04:39,107 --> 00:04:40,442 She believes 251 00:04:40,442 --> 00:04:40,708 , as I 252 00:04:40,708 --> 00:04:41,900 visited with 253 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:41,409 her 254 00:04:41,409 --> 00:04:42,644 , that staying 255 00:04:42,644 --> 00:04:42,978 in front 256 00:04:42,978 --> 00:04:43,378 costs 257 00:04:43,378 --> 00:04:43,744 . A 258 00:04:43,744 --> 00:04:45,130 lot less 259 00:04:45,130 --> 00:04:45,213 than 260 00:04:45,213 --> 00:04:45,881 falling 261 00:04:45,881 --> 00:04:47,820 behind. Thank you very 262 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:47,416 much 263 00:04:47,416 --> 00:04:48,830 . 264 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:48,450 Thank you. If you have comments 265 00:04:48,450 --> 00:04:49,718 you can 266 00:04:49,718 --> 00:04:50,519 leave in the basket up 267 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:51,620 in front there too. Thank you 268 00:04:51,620 --> 00:04:52,540 . 269 00:04:52,540 --> 00:04:52,387 I'll do it 270 00:04:52,387 --> 00:04:54,387 . Next 271 00:04:56,357 --> 00:04:58,357 Anybody else 272 00:04:58,694 --> 00:04:59,328 ? 273 00:04:59,328 --> 00:04:59,628 Anybody else in your group? 274 00:04:59,628 --> 00:05:01,280 Nope 275 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,280 , we're done 276 00:05:03,499 --> 00:05:03,699 . Thank you 277 00:05:03,699 --> 00:05:04,990 , 278 00:05:04,990 --> 00:05:05,267 gentlemen 279 00:05:05,267 --> 00:05:05,767 . Thank 280 00:05:05,767 --> 00:05:06,135 you 281 00:05:06,135 --> 00:05:07,236 . Good job 282 00:05:07,236 --> 00:05:07,836 , 283 00:05:07,836 --> 00:05:09,836 sir. Thank you 284 00:05:15,377 --> 00:05:16,679 . Yeah 285 00:05:16,679 --> 00:05:17,112 . Okey doke 286 00:05:17,112 --> 00:05:17,379 start her 287 00:05:17,379 --> 00:05:18,881 up 288 00:05:18,881 --> 00:05:19,248 . Good morning. My 289 00:05:19,248 --> 00:05:20,849 name is 290 00:05:20,849 --> 00:05:21,283 John 291 00:05:21,283 --> 00:05:21,850 Ravnick. I'm a 292 00:05:21,850 --> 00:05:23,419 civil 293 00:05:23,419 --> 00:05:23,785 engineer in 294 00:05:23,785 --> 00:05:24,220 Skagit County 295 00:05:24,220 --> 00:05:25,755 I've been 296 00:05:25,755 --> 00:05:26,880 practicing for 42 297 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,890 years 298 00:05:27,890 --> 00:05:28,390 . And 299 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:28,790 I think this is the 300 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:30,393 2nd time 301 00:05:30,393 --> 00:05:32,561 that I've ever come to 302 00:05:32,561 --> 00:05:32,795 the commissioner's 303 00:05:32,795 --> 00:05:33,329 , um, 304 00:05:33,329 --> 00:05:35,297 grasping for hope 305 00:05:35,297 --> 00:05:36,565 . There 306 00:05:36,565 --> 00:05:36,765 is 307 00:05:36,765 --> 00:05:37,600 a 308 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,168 significant delay 309 00:05:39,168 --> 00:05:40,200 in 310 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,103 permorating and processing 311 00:05:41,103 --> 00:05:42,500 , and 312 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:43,905 I'm not going to go into the 313 00:05:43,905 --> 00:05:44,506 permit issuance, that's going 314 00:05:44,506 --> 00:05:46,475 to be somebody else 315 00:05:46,475 --> 00:05:46,776 . But right 316 00:05:46,776 --> 00:05:48,144 now 317 00:05:48,144 --> 00:05:48,377 I've 318 00:05:48,377 --> 00:05:48,611 got 319 00:05:48,611 --> 00:05:48,911 12 320 00:05:48,911 --> 00:05:50,313 Skagia 321 00:05:50,313 --> 00:05:50,613 County 322 00:05:50,613 --> 00:05:50,946 jobs 323 00:05:50,946 --> 00:05:51,180 , right 324 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:52,715 ? 9 325 00:05:52,715 --> 00:05:52,888 of them 326 00:05:52,888 --> 00:05:53,548 , I'm 327 00:05:53,548 --> 00:05:53,850 going to say are average in 328 00:05:53,850 --> 00:05:54,750 size 329 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:55,170 , if 330 00:05:55,170 --> 00:05:55,351 not 331 00:05:55,351 --> 00:05:57,530 larger 332 00:05:57,530 --> 00:05:57,887 , probably 333 00:05:57,887 --> 00:05:59,689 anywhere between 5 and 15 to 334 00:05:59,689 --> 00:06:01,689 $18 million 335 00:06:02,158 --> 00:06:03,893 . Their 336 00:06:03,893 --> 00:06:04,294 construction 337 00:06:04,294 --> 00:06:04,861 gets 338 00:06:04,861 --> 00:06:06,620 significantly delayed 339 00:06:06,620 --> 00:06:06,462 . By 340 00:06:06,462 --> 00:06:08,364 the fact 341 00:06:08,364 --> 00:06:08,535 that Do plans 342 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:09,165 , 343 00:06:09,165 --> 00:06:10,400 documents, reports, whatever 344 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:10,934 it 345 00:06:10,934 --> 00:06:11,434 takes to 346 00:06:11,434 --> 00:06:13,360 permit the project 347 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:13,303 . 348 00:06:13,303 --> 00:06:15,138 Are 349 00:06:15,138 --> 00:06:15,538 seriously delayed, and you 350 00:06:15,538 --> 00:06:16,390 might say 351 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:17,273 , what's serious? Is 352 00:06:17,273 --> 00:06:17,774 it a 353 00:06:17,774 --> 00:06:17,974 month? Is it 354 00:06:17,974 --> 00:06:18,307 2 355 00:06:18,307 --> 00:06:19,476 months 356 00:06:19,476 --> 00:06:20,143 ? How 357 00:06:20,143 --> 00:06:20,322 about anywhere between and 358 00:06:20,322 --> 00:06:20,643 5 359 00:06:20,643 --> 00:06:22,450 years 360 00:06:22,450 --> 00:06:22,445 , ok 361 00:06:22,445 --> 00:06:22,812 ? I'd like for each 362 00:06:22,812 --> 00:06:24,180 one of 363 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:24,342 you to decide to 364 00:06:24,342 --> 00:06:24,614 carry 365 00:06:24,614 --> 00:06:25,181 the 366 00:06:25,181 --> 00:06:26,316 , the wallet that 367 00:06:26,316 --> 00:06:26,549 it takes 368 00:06:26,549 --> 00:06:26,783 to 369 00:06:26,783 --> 00:06:27,517 own 370 00:06:27,517 --> 00:06:28,885 that property and to 371 00:06:28,885 --> 00:06:29,486 hold up on 372 00:06:29,486 --> 00:06:31,321 your interest and 373 00:06:31,321 --> 00:06:31,788 pay for all the design services 374 00:06:31,788 --> 00:06:33,256 that come along 375 00:06:33,256 --> 00:06:35,256 . So 376 00:06:35,358 --> 00:06:35,592 I 377 00:06:35,592 --> 00:06:36,293 would 378 00:06:36,293 --> 00:06:38,161 hope that there is a time 379 00:06:38,161 --> 00:06:38,494 . When 380 00:06:38,494 --> 00:06:40,290 we can 381 00:06:40,290 --> 00:06:40,497 work together with the 382 00:06:40,497 --> 00:06:42,432 commissioners 383 00:06:42,432 --> 00:06:42,732 . Some type of 384 00:06:42,732 --> 00:06:43,300 a 385 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:44,968 stakeholder 386 00:06:44,968 --> 00:06:45,131 working meeting 387 00:06:45,131 --> 00:06:45,401 , um 388 00:06:45,401 --> 00:06:46,570 bring 389 00:06:46,570 --> 00:06:47,360 in some 390 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:47,537 of your staff 391 00:06:47,537 --> 00:06:49,500 that's directly 392 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:49,373 involved in the 393 00:06:49,373 --> 00:06:49,973 process 394 00:06:49,973 --> 00:06:50,907 . And try 395 00:06:50,907 --> 00:06:51,174 to 396 00:06:51,174 --> 00:06:51,341 get 397 00:06:51,341 --> 00:06:51,608 answers 398 00:06:51,608 --> 00:06:51,875 as 399 00:06:51,875 --> 00:06:53,377 to 400 00:06:53,377 --> 00:06:53,877 why 401 00:06:53,877 --> 00:06:54,211 technically there's 402 00:06:54,211 --> 00:06:55,946 maybe 403 00:06:55,946 --> 00:06:56,179 3 people that I 404 00:06:56,179 --> 00:06:56,480 know of 405 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,647 that 406 00:06:57,647 --> 00:06:58,315 are 407 00:06:58,315 --> 00:07:00,170 involved in the 408 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:00,617 civil 409 00:07:00,617 --> 00:07:02,585 aspects of projects 410 00:07:02,585 --> 00:07:03,253 . Now, some 411 00:07:03,253 --> 00:07:03,554 of my sites are small, some of 412 00:07:03,554 --> 00:07:04,555 them 413 00:07:04,555 --> 00:07:04,988 are large 414 00:07:04,988 --> 00:07:05,222 . And 415 00:07:05,222 --> 00:07:05,386 if 416 00:07:05,386 --> 00:07:05,756 I'm 417 00:07:05,756 --> 00:07:07,900 putting in 418 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:07,491 a utility and I have 419 00:07:07,491 --> 00:07:09,126 to call for 420 00:07:09,126 --> 00:07:09,625 an inspection, and 421 00:07:09,625 --> 00:07:09,893 so I called for 422 00:07:09,893 --> 00:07:11,227 an 423 00:07:11,227 --> 00:07:12,620 inspection, 424 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:13,396 and it's going to be on Friday 425 00:07:13,396 --> 00:07:13,864 . 426 00:07:13,864 --> 00:07:14,398 Super. Ok, I'm 427 00:07:14,398 --> 00:07:16,100 gonna work my 428 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:17,868 schedule around that 429 00:07:17,868 --> 00:07:18,535 . Monday 430 00:07:18,535 --> 00:07:18,902 morning, the inspection hasn't 431 00:07:18,902 --> 00:07:20,371 occurred 432 00:07:20,371 --> 00:07:21,105 , so 433 00:07:21,105 --> 00:07:22,506 the contractor is 434 00:07:22,506 --> 00:07:22,840 . 435 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,840 Forced 436 00:07:25,409 --> 00:07:27,277 Forced to fill that 437 00:07:27,277 --> 00:07:27,462 trench in, only to 438 00:07:27,462 --> 00:07:27,911 get 439 00:07:27,911 --> 00:07:29,345 penalized by 440 00:07:29,345 --> 00:07:29,913 the 441 00:07:29,913 --> 00:07:30,481 county because 442 00:07:30,481 --> 00:07:31,715 he didn't come out 443 00:07:31,715 --> 00:07:32,490 and inspect 444 00:07:32,490 --> 00:07:32,650 it, no 445 00:07:32,650 --> 00:07:33,884 . He didn't 446 00:07:33,884 --> 00:07:34,351 abide by his 447 00:07:34,351 --> 00:07:36,351 own schedule 448 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:36,687 . So there 449 00:07:36,687 --> 00:07:37,187 are 450 00:07:37,187 --> 00:07:38,656 things that we 451 00:07:38,656 --> 00:07:38,889 need to 452 00:07:38,889 --> 00:07:39,560 do 453 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:39,389 with 454 00:07:39,389 --> 00:07:40,825 staff 455 00:07:40,825 --> 00:07:42,760 . I think you have 456 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,194 123 457 00:07:43,194 --> 00:07:43,694 people that 458 00:07:43,694 --> 00:07:45,196 In 459 00:07:45,196 --> 00:07:45,863 part are 460 00:07:45,863 --> 00:07:47,732 involved in inspections 461 00:07:47,732 --> 00:07:47,902 . Well 462 00:07:47,902 --> 00:07:48,498 , 463 00:07:48,498 --> 00:07:49,333 keep in mind those people 464 00:07:49,333 --> 00:07:49,600 are 465 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,167 also 466 00:07:50,167 --> 00:07:51,669 doing the plan reviews 467 00:07:51,669 --> 00:07:52,136 . 468 00:07:52,136 --> 00:07:52,637 And you can't 469 00:07:52,637 --> 00:07:54,238 do both 470 00:07:54,238 --> 00:07:54,471 , and 471 00:07:54,471 --> 00:07:54,839 the 472 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:56,741 brunt 473 00:07:56,741 --> 00:07:56,974 falls upon the 474 00:07:56,974 --> 00:07:57,307 property 475 00:07:57,307 --> 00:07:59,430 owner 476 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:59,744 , the developer who has to 477 00:07:59,744 --> 00:08:00,812 carry the load or paying 478 00:08:00,812 --> 00:08:01,178 the 479 00:08:01,178 --> 00:08:03,140 expenses 480 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:03,614 . So 481 00:08:03,614 --> 00:08:03,881 that's one very, 482 00:08:03,881 --> 00:08:05,416 very 483 00:08:05,416 --> 00:08:05,949 important aspect 484 00:08:05,949 --> 00:08:06,550 . That we 485 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:07,751 would like to meet 486 00:08:07,751 --> 00:08:08,552 with you on 487 00:08:08,552 --> 00:08:10,355 to figure out, is there a 488 00:08:10,355 --> 00:08:10,588 solution? Can I pay 489 00:08:10,588 --> 00:08:11,890 overtime 490 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:12,857 for staff time 491 00:08:12,857 --> 00:08:13,224 . How do we get 492 00:08:13,224 --> 00:08:14,791 over this 493 00:08:14,791 --> 00:08:16,561 ? Problem 494 00:08:16,561 --> 00:08:17,128 You can't 495 00:08:17,128 --> 00:08:17,828 let it just sit there and 496 00:08:17,828 --> 00:08:18,763 ignore it. That's not going 497 00:08:18,763 --> 00:08:19,970 to 498 00:08:19,970 --> 00:08:19,797 do it 499 00:08:19,797 --> 00:08:20,898 any longer. You've got 500 00:08:20,898 --> 00:08:21,199 to 501 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:21,766 hold 502 00:08:21,766 --> 00:08:22,233 staff accountable for 503 00:08:22,233 --> 00:08:23,835 their actions 504 00:08:23,835 --> 00:08:24,101 . Thank you. Thank 505 00:08:24,101 --> 00:08:25,737 you 506 00:08:25,737 --> 00:08:26,504 . Ok 507 00:08:26,504 --> 00:08:28,504 Oh 508 00:08:37,348 --> 00:08:37,849 . Hello, my name is 509 00:08:37,849 --> 00:08:39,150 Josh Baldwin 510 00:08:39,150 --> 00:08:39,651 . I'm a project 511 00:08:39,651 --> 00:08:40,318 manager with Quantum 512 00:08:40,318 --> 00:08:41,252 Construction and thank you 513 00:08:41,252 --> 00:08:41,753 for 514 00:08:41,753 --> 00:08:42,220 making time for 515 00:08:42,220 --> 00:08:42,487 us today. Um, 516 00:08:42,487 --> 00:08:44,122 as 517 00:08:44,122 --> 00:08:44,756 we talk about this, I want 518 00:08:44,756 --> 00:08:46,224 to come from the point 519 00:08:46,224 --> 00:08:46,858 , um, the 520 00:08:46,858 --> 00:08:48,527 same way we approach 521 00:08:48,527 --> 00:08:49,940 construction projects, which is 522 00:08:49,940 --> 00:08:50,495 where all part of 523 00:08:50,495 --> 00:08:51,162 the same team 524 00:08:51,162 --> 00:08:51,530 going for the same goals. We're 525 00:08:51,530 --> 00:08:52,764 not in 526 00:08:52,764 --> 00:08:53,498 different parties 527 00:08:53,498 --> 00:08:53,765 sitting on the opposite sides 528 00:08:53,765 --> 00:08:54,966 of 529 00:08:54,966 --> 00:08:55,333 the table 530 00:08:55,333 --> 00:08:55,834 with competing 531 00:08:55,834 --> 00:08:57,169 interests, but 532 00:08:57,169 --> 00:08:57,337 We're 533 00:08:57,337 --> 00:08:57,969 all 534 00:08:57,969 --> 00:08:58,303 Skagittonians who are trying to 535 00:08:58,303 --> 00:08:59,971 make a 536 00:08:59,971 --> 00:09:00,539 better place, and a lot 537 00:09:00,539 --> 00:09:01,740 of the things that 538 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:02,407 the 539 00:09:02,407 --> 00:09:03,108 construction industry addresses 540 00:09:03,108 --> 00:09:03,842 are things that are also 541 00:09:03,842 --> 00:09:04,508 really 542 00:09:04,508 --> 00:09:04,810 important to the county 543 00:09:04,810 --> 00:09:05,309 , um, 544 00:09:05,309 --> 00:09:06,211 construction is 545 00:09:06,211 --> 00:09:06,645 a 546 00:09:06,645 --> 00:09:07,112 profit center 547 00:09:07,112 --> 00:09:08,447 Every time we 548 00:09:08,447 --> 00:09:08,814 build a project, 549 00:09:08,814 --> 00:09:09,247 you get 550 00:09:09,247 --> 00:09:10,549 permit fees 551 00:09:10,549 --> 00:09:11,283 , uh, 552 00:09:11,283 --> 00:09:11,817 increased sales tax. I think 553 00:09:11,817 --> 00:09:13,218 it's 554 00:09:13,218 --> 00:09:13,519 21% of the sales 555 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:14,190 tax base, 556 00:09:14,190 --> 00:09:15,200 something like 557 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:15,253 that 558 00:09:15,253 --> 00:09:16,121 is 559 00:09:16,121 --> 00:09:17,722 construction related, um, plus 560 00:09:17,722 --> 00:09:18,900 increased property 561 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:18,624 taxes as 562 00:09:18,624 --> 00:09:20,191 projects move on 563 00:09:20,191 --> 00:09:20,392 . So 564 00:09:20,392 --> 00:09:20,826 viewing 565 00:09:20,826 --> 00:09:21,760 construction 566 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:21,994 as 567 00:09:21,994 --> 00:09:22,394 a 568 00:09:22,394 --> 00:09:23,940 profit center 569 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:24,290 rather than a cost center 570 00:09:24,290 --> 00:09:24,696 is an 571 00:09:24,696 --> 00:09:25,330 important way to frame the 572 00:09:25,330 --> 00:09:25,797 construction industry from the 573 00:09:25,797 --> 00:09:26,665 county's point 574 00:09:26,665 --> 00:09:27,166 . Of view 575 00:09:27,166 --> 00:09:28,567 . Um 576 00:09:28,567 --> 00:09:29,501 , it 577 00:09:29,501 --> 00:09:29,902 also meets county needs of 578 00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:31,690 affordable 579 00:09:31,690 --> 00:09:31,703 housing and 580 00:09:31,703 --> 00:09:32,400 commercial expansion, things 581 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,572 that 582 00:09:33,572 --> 00:09:34,206 are absolutely needed for 583 00:09:34,206 --> 00:09:35,273 the growth and future 584 00:09:35,273 --> 00:09:35,741 success 585 00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:36,175 of our county 586 00:09:36,175 --> 00:09:38,175 . Um 587 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:40,179 , Time risk is 588 00:09:40,179 --> 00:09:40,779 an important part of 589 00:09:40,779 --> 00:09:41,112 construction that doesn't get 590 00:09:41,112 --> 00:09:42,470 talked 591 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:42,581 about 592 00:09:42,581 --> 00:09:42,982 a 593 00:09:42,982 --> 00:09:43,281 lot um if when 594 00:09:43,281 --> 00:09:44,683 people 595 00:09:44,683 --> 00:09:45,550 are 596 00:09:45,550 --> 00:09:46,619 developing projects 597 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:47,186 , 598 00:09:47,186 --> 00:09:47,620 they're starting years in 599 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:48,753 advance and 600 00:09:48,753 --> 00:09:49,321 they're 601 00:09:49,321 --> 00:09:49,722 anticipating needs, market 602 00:09:49,722 --> 00:09:51,290 conditions 603 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:52,580 , interest rates, all 604 00:09:52,580 --> 00:09:54,260 of these types of things, and 605 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:54,460 there's naturally delays in 606 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:55,995 that 607 00:09:55,995 --> 00:09:56,595 process. What can also 608 00:09:56,595 --> 00:09:57,830 happen though is we 609 00:09:57,830 --> 00:09:58,331 hit 610 00:09:58,331 --> 00:09:58,998 delays 611 00:09:58,998 --> 00:10:00,231 in inspections 612 00:10:00,231 --> 00:10:00,566 and 613 00:10:00,566 --> 00:10:00,800 delays 614 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,400 in 615 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,235 permit review, and 616 00:10:03,235 --> 00:10:04,300 we get put 617 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:04,971 back to the back of the line 618 00:10:04,971 --> 00:10:05,670 because there's a new 619 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:06,872 requirement. All of 620 00:10:06,872 --> 00:10:07,506 that 621 00:10:07,506 --> 00:10:07,807 discourages future expansion 622 00:10:07,807 --> 00:10:09,342 and 623 00:10:09,342 --> 00:10:09,642 Future 624 00:10:09,642 --> 00:10:10,420 development by 625 00:10:10,420 --> 00:10:11,610 people and 626 00:10:11,610 --> 00:10:12,612 so it hurts the 627 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:13,946 county ultimately the longer 628 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:14,580 time goes. So 629 00:10:14,580 --> 00:10:14,847 , it's important 630 00:10:14,847 --> 00:10:16,249 to 631 00:10:16,249 --> 00:10:16,482 think of time as a risk 632 00:10:16,482 --> 00:10:16,883 , not 633 00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:18,651 just money 634 00:10:18,651 --> 00:10:20,651 . Um 635 00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:21,220 , An important 636 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:22,455 step that might be 637 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:23,156 really 638 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:23,623 helpful from the county's 639 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:25,157 perspective is 640 00:10:25,157 --> 00:10:25,859 to introduce a 641 00:10:25,859 --> 00:10:26,191 triage process for permits. If 642 00:10:26,191 --> 00:10:27,293 there 643 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:28,940 was 644 00:10:28,940 --> 00:10:29,227 somebody who had 645 00:10:29,227 --> 00:10:29,828 the 646 00:10:29,828 --> 00:10:30,196 expertise and the empowerment 647 00:10:30,196 --> 00:10:31,664 to look 648 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:31,965 at 649 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:32,398 permits 650 00:10:32,398 --> 00:10:32,765 and 651 00:10:32,765 --> 00:10:34,300 um waive 652 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:34,868 or sign off on 653 00:10:34,868 --> 00:10:36,102 simple items 654 00:10:36,102 --> 00:10:36,603 , 655 00:10:36,603 --> 00:10:37,103 you could 656 00:10:37,103 --> 00:10:38,404 use one staff 657 00:10:38,404 --> 00:10:38,670 member 658 00:10:38,670 --> 00:10:39,239 to 659 00:10:39,239 --> 00:10:39,405 greatly expand the 660 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:39,671 ability 661 00:10:39,671 --> 00:10:41,410 to 662 00:10:41,410 --> 00:10:41,217 move permits through 663 00:10:41,217 --> 00:10:41,841 , 664 00:10:41,841 --> 00:10:43,676 especially simple ones that 665 00:10:43,676 --> 00:10:44,780 might otherwise share staff 666 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:45,111 time with 667 00:10:45,111 --> 00:10:45,378 very 668 00:10:45,378 --> 00:10:46,460 complicated 669 00:10:46,460 --> 00:10:46,379 projects that should take a lot 670 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:47,447 longer 671 00:10:47,447 --> 00:10:47,881 . My 672 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:48,481 wife has been an er 673 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:48,815 nurse, and that's the first 674 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:49,949 thing 675 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:50,616 that they do is they 676 00:10:50,616 --> 00:10:51,950 triage With patients and 677 00:10:51,950 --> 00:10:52,485 figure 678 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:52,786 out who can be 679 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:52,952 quickly 680 00:10:52,952 --> 00:10:53,253 exited 681 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:54,753 from 682 00:10:54,753 --> 00:10:55,388 the process and who needs 683 00:10:55,388 --> 00:10:56,256 significant resources 684 00:10:56,256 --> 00:10:56,556 put to 685 00:10:56,556 --> 00:10:57,156 them 686 00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:59,250 . Um 687 00:10:59,250 --> 00:10:59,792 , also to echo 688 00:10:59,792 --> 00:11:01,270 something that John said 689 00:11:01,270 --> 00:11:01,661 , uh, 690 00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:03,296 changing rules between 691 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:03,663 inspections 692 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:04,290 and review 693 00:11:04,290 --> 00:11:06,290 loses 694 00:11:06,366 --> 00:11:08,168 efficiency and mental focus for 695 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:08,935 staff members, you know, we're 696 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:10,360 talking to people who want 697 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:10,704 to 698 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:12,238 review permits 699 00:11:12,238 --> 00:11:12,906 , and they're 700 00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:13,373 being called out to the field. 701 00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:14,541 That's a very 702 00:11:14,541 --> 00:11:14,741 different 703 00:11:14,741 --> 00:11:15,576 mindset 704 00:11:15,576 --> 00:11:17,444 and takes their time to do that 705 00:11:17,444 --> 00:11:17,811 Um 706 00:11:17,811 --> 00:11:19,112 , and when 707 00:11:19,112 --> 00:11:19,312 we 708 00:11:19,312 --> 00:11:19,880 hold up 709 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,470 projects, we also 710 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:21,315 hit 711 00:11:21,315 --> 00:11:22,215 different 712 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:23,951 issues like weather. I'm trying 713 00:11:23,951 --> 00:11:24,550 to permit just a simple house 714 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:25,652 expansion right now 715 00:11:25,652 --> 00:11:26,320 , but we 716 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:26,653 have to tear the roof off. 717 00:11:26,653 --> 00:11:28,154 We've 718 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:28,722 been waiting for 3 weeks 719 00:11:28,722 --> 00:11:29,122 past when the review was 720 00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,657 scheduled 721 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:31,191 , and as we move into 722 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:32,559 the fall, we're 723 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,192 concerned that 724 00:11:33,192 --> 00:11:33,627 we're going to be taking the 725 00:11:33,627 --> 00:11:34,595 roof off of 726 00:11:34,595 --> 00:11:34,894 the 727 00:11:34,894 --> 00:11:35,562 house right in 728 00:11:35,562 --> 00:11:36,863 time for the rain to hit 729 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:37,197 . So 730 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:38,165 moving 731 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:40,165 . Uh, projects through 732 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,500 Thank you very much for your 733 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,302 time 734 00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:44,302 . Thank you, Josh 735 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:47,839 . Next 736 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:51,745 . 737 00:11:51,745 --> 00:11:53,147 Commissioners, thank you for 738 00:11:53,147 --> 00:11:53,881 taking the time 739 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:55,349 . Uh 740 00:11:55,349 --> 00:11:55,783 , Shelby 741 00:11:55,783 --> 00:11:57,451 Vanderpool 742 00:11:57,451 --> 00:11:58,252 , civil contractor in 743 00:11:58,252 --> 00:12:00,387 Skagit County for over 30 years 744 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:01,856 Um 745 00:12:01,856 --> 00:12:02,356 , Just 746 00:12:02,356 --> 00:12:02,723 to 747 00:12:02,723 --> 00:12:04,250 reiterate 748 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:04,205 , John 749 00:12:04,205 --> 00:12:04,425 and 750 00:12:04,425 --> 00:12:05,920 Josh 751 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:06,627 , uh, the struggles 752 00:12:06,627 --> 00:12:07,270 we're 753 00:12:07,270 --> 00:12:08,862 facing, um 754 00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:09,130 , On 755 00:12:09,130 --> 00:12:09,463 the 756 00:12:09,463 --> 00:12:09,829 contractor's 757 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:10,897 side of 758 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:11,831 the 759 00:12:11,831 --> 00:12:13,330 permitting 760 00:12:13,330 --> 00:12:13,833 process 761 00:12:13,833 --> 00:12:14,201 , 762 00:12:14,201 --> 00:12:15,302 uh, one 763 00:12:15,302 --> 00:12:15,570 issue 764 00:12:15,570 --> 00:12:15,770 , John 765 00:12:15,770 --> 00:12:16,269 mentioned 766 00:12:16,269 --> 00:12:17,638 briefly on is 767 00:12:17,638 --> 00:12:18,500 the inspection 768 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:20,500 process 769 00:12:20,541 --> 00:12:22,430 . The 770 00:12:22,430 --> 00:12:22,343 new 771 00:12:22,343 --> 00:12:22,777 civic 772 00:12:22,777 --> 00:12:23,177 access 773 00:12:23,177 --> 00:12:24,511 portal for 774 00:12:24,511 --> 00:12:24,946 requesting 775 00:12:24,946 --> 00:12:26,513 inspections 776 00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:28,513 . Um 777 00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:29,684 , I 778 00:12:29,684 --> 00:12:30,818 is 779 00:12:30,818 --> 00:12:31,185 not 780 00:12:31,185 --> 00:12:31,752 properly 781 00:12:31,752 --> 00:12:32,120 In 782 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,955 my opinion 783 00:12:33,955 --> 00:12:34,354 , being 784 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:35,957 maintained 785 00:12:35,957 --> 00:12:36,557 . Um 786 00:12:36,557 --> 00:12:38,259 , when we put in 787 00:12:38,259 --> 00:12:40,280 for inspections, we 788 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:40,761 rarely know 789 00:12:40,761 --> 00:12:42,829 if they're going to happen 790 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:43,197 . We 791 00:12:43,197 --> 00:12:44,465 don't 792 00:12:44,465 --> 00:12:44,732 know 793 00:12:44,732 --> 00:12:45,990 the 794 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:45,600 exact time it's 795 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,801 going to happen 796 00:12:46,801 --> 00:12:47,300 or if 797 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:47,268 it 798 00:12:47,268 --> 00:12:47,602 happens 799 00:12:47,602 --> 00:12:49,537 . If 800 00:12:49,537 --> 00:12:50,710 that 801 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:50,471 inspection is 802 00:12:50,471 --> 00:12:52,173 completed 803 00:12:52,173 --> 00:12:53,508 . Rarely 804 00:12:53,508 --> 00:12:53,875 is the permit 805 00:12:53,875 --> 00:12:54,175 in the 806 00:12:54,175 --> 00:12:54,475 portal 807 00:12:54,475 --> 00:12:55,777 updated 808 00:12:55,777 --> 00:12:56,377 , which is 809 00:12:56,377 --> 00:12:57,978 a frustration on 810 00:12:57,978 --> 00:12:58,713 the 811 00:12:58,713 --> 00:12:59,800 contractors in the phasing of 812 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:00,748 the job 813 00:13:00,748 --> 00:13:01,490 . To know if we 814 00:13:01,490 --> 00:13:01,315 can move 815 00:13:01,315 --> 00:13:03,315 on 816 00:13:03,451 --> 00:13:05,287 and backfill and with the 817 00:13:05,287 --> 00:13:05,954 weather, we, we've got to be 818 00:13:05,954 --> 00:13:06,955 able to get this ground 819 00:13:06,955 --> 00:13:07,222 covered 820 00:13:07,222 --> 00:13:07,622 up 821 00:13:07,622 --> 00:13:07,923 . With all 822 00:13:07,923 --> 00:13:09,590 the 823 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:11,590 new stormwater 824 00:13:12,227 --> 00:13:12,593 regulations that were that are 825 00:13:12,593 --> 00:13:14,329 upon us 826 00:13:14,329 --> 00:13:14,995 and especially in 827 00:13:14,995 --> 00:13:16,197 Skagie County in 828 00:13:16,197 --> 00:13:16,430 Washington 829 00:13:16,430 --> 00:13:16,998 , 830 00:13:16,998 --> 00:13:18,166 Western Washington 831 00:13:18,166 --> 00:13:19,134 , large 832 00:13:19,134 --> 00:13:20,902 amounts of rain. It's a, it's a 833 00:13:20,902 --> 00:13:21,203 big impact to the 834 00:13:21,203 --> 00:13:21,536 project and 835 00:13:21,536 --> 00:13:23,271 to the 836 00:13:23,271 --> 00:13:24,773 surrounding properties 837 00:13:24,773 --> 00:13:25,400 . 838 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Um 839 00:13:28,110 --> 00:13:30,510 , The civic access portal 840 00:13:32,113 --> 00:13:34,113 . I 841 00:13:35,116 --> 00:13:36,385 Very cumbersome in 842 00:13:36,385 --> 00:13:36,718 the fact 843 00:13:36,718 --> 00:13:37,552 that 844 00:13:37,552 --> 00:13:39,187 the communication between 845 00:13:39,187 --> 00:13:40,522 the contractors and the county 846 00:13:40,522 --> 00:13:41,290 . 847 00:13:41,290 --> 00:13:41,556 There's, there's a, a big 848 00:13:41,556 --> 00:13:43,158 void 849 00:13:43,158 --> 00:13:43,826 . 850 00:13:43,826 --> 00:13:44,920 No longer are we able to pick 851 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,327 up 852 00:13:45,327 --> 00:13:45,827 the 853 00:13:45,827 --> 00:13:47,827 phone. We leave 854 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:48,897 . 855 00:13:48,897 --> 00:13:49,932 Multiple voicemails 856 00:13:49,932 --> 00:13:50,165 before 857 00:13:50,165 --> 00:13:50,966 ever 858 00:13:50,966 --> 00:13:52,401 hearing back if we hear back 859 00:13:52,401 --> 00:13:53,268 . 860 00:13:53,268 --> 00:13:55,668 From the planning department 861 00:13:56,872 --> 00:13:57,139 . 862 00:13:57,139 --> 00:13:59,139 Um 863 00:13:59,808 --> 00:14:00,910 , Like Josh and John said 864 00:14:00,910 --> 00:14:01,610 , 865 00:14:01,610 --> 00:14:02,111 we're, we're here to help. We 866 00:14:02,111 --> 00:14:03,412 want to be a 867 00:14:03,412 --> 00:14:03,612 part 868 00:14:03,612 --> 00:14:03,979 of the 869 00:14:03,979 --> 00:14:05,381 solution 870 00:14:05,381 --> 00:14:06,415 . Ah 871 00:14:06,415 --> 00:14:08,250 , You know 872 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:08,817 , One of 873 00:14:08,817 --> 00:14:10,118 my notes here is 874 00:14:10,118 --> 00:14:10,486 the number of 875 00:14:10,486 --> 00:14:11,530 permits 876 00:14:11,530 --> 00:14:12,388 it takes 877 00:14:12,388 --> 00:14:12,621 . Uh 878 00:14:12,621 --> 00:14:12,988 , currently 879 00:14:12,988 --> 00:14:13,656 on a, on 880 00:14:13,656 --> 00:14:14,623 a specific project 881 00:14:14,623 --> 00:14:15,124 , I 882 00:14:15,124 --> 00:14:17,590 have 5 permits 883 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:17,326 . Does there need 884 00:14:17,326 --> 00:14:17,592 to 885 00:14:17,592 --> 00:14:19,228 be 5 886 00:14:19,228 --> 00:14:19,594 separate permits 887 00:14:19,594 --> 00:14:19,962 . For a 888 00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:21,962 project 889 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:22,364 . Uh, we have a 890 00:14:22,364 --> 00:14:24,330 low 891 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:24,567 impact development. I have a 892 00:14:24,567 --> 00:14:25,735 demolition permit 893 00:14:25,735 --> 00:14:26,702 . I have a 894 00:14:26,702 --> 00:14:28,700 fill and grade permit. I have 895 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:28,704 an 896 00:14:28,704 --> 00:14:29,171 underground fire line permit 897 00:14:29,171 --> 00:14:30,873 and I have a 898 00:14:30,873 --> 00:14:31,440 building permit. 899 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,474 Every one of those 900 00:14:32,474 --> 00:14:32,908 has 901 00:14:32,908 --> 00:14:33,209 inspections 902 00:14:33,209 --> 00:14:34,844 . And 903 00:14:34,844 --> 00:14:35,210 a lot of them 904 00:14:35,210 --> 00:14:35,711 are the 905 00:14:35,711 --> 00:14:37,113 same inspections 906 00:14:37,113 --> 00:14:38,147 . So 907 00:14:38,147 --> 00:14:40,160 that's requesting the county 908 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,784 inspector to come out to the 909 00:14:41,784 --> 00:14:42,850 same project, 5 910 00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:42,718 different times 911 00:14:42,718 --> 00:14:44,787 to see the same thing 912 00:14:44,787 --> 00:14:45,187 . Not very 913 00:14:45,187 --> 00:14:46,656 efficient 914 00:14:46,656 --> 00:14:48,656 . Um 915 00:14:48,958 --> 00:14:50,727 , Yeah 916 00:14:50,727 --> 00:14:51,560 . Would love 917 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,429 to get support from the county 918 00:14:53,429 --> 00:14:53,763 on the contractor's side 919 00:14:53,763 --> 00:14:54,130 , and 920 00:14:54,130 --> 00:14:55,498 uh thank 921 00:14:55,498 --> 00:14:55,798 you for your time 922 00:14:55,798 --> 00:14:56,199 . 923 00:14:56,199 --> 00:14:58,199 Thank you 924 00:15:02,505 --> 00:15:02,806 . My 925 00:15:02,806 --> 00:15:04,174 name's 926 00:15:04,174 --> 00:15:04,374 Alan 927 00:15:04,374 --> 00:15:04,774 Perks 928 00:15:04,774 --> 00:15:06,209 I've been in 929 00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:06,675 the 930 00:15:06,675 --> 00:15:06,910 county for 931 00:15:06,910 --> 00:15:07,243 60+ 932 00:15:07,243 --> 00:15:08,878 years 933 00:15:08,878 --> 00:15:09,511 and 934 00:15:09,511 --> 00:15:09,946 uh I've been in 935 00:15:09,946 --> 00:15:11,810 construction 936 00:15:11,810 --> 00:15:11,547 also for 40 937 00:15:11,547 --> 00:15:11,881 some 938 00:15:11,881 --> 00:15:13,316 years 939 00:15:13,316 --> 00:15:13,883 . I'm more 940 00:15:13,883 --> 00:15:15,883 from the 941 00:15:15,885 --> 00:15:16,519 commercial building side, so 942 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:17,654 the things that 943 00:15:17,654 --> 00:15:17,987 I would 944 00:15:17,987 --> 00:15:18,622 like to 945 00:15:18,622 --> 00:15:20,457 to share 946 00:15:20,457 --> 00:15:21,240 real quick is 947 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,192 currently we have 948 00:15:22,192 --> 00:15:22,725 , you're 949 00:15:22,725 --> 00:15:24,427 building official 950 00:15:24,427 --> 00:15:24,793 . Randy 951 00:15:24,793 --> 00:15:25,262 Johnson 952 00:15:25,262 --> 00:15:26,863 . Your 953 00:15:26,863 --> 00:15:27,130 storm management, 954 00:15:27,130 --> 00:15:29,650 uh 955 00:15:29,650 --> 00:15:30,660 , Um 956 00:15:30,660 --> 00:15:31,330 , plans examiner 957 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:31,468 , Sean 958 00:15:31,468 --> 00:15:33,468 Christensen 959 00:15:33,570 --> 00:15:34,204 . Your 960 00:15:34,204 --> 00:15:34,604 , uh, 961 00:15:34,604 --> 00:15:35,872 commercial 962 00:15:35,872 --> 00:15:36,272 plants examiner, Al 963 00:15:36,272 --> 00:15:36,773 . 964 00:15:36,773 --> 00:15:38,740 Can't remember 965 00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:38,508 to say his name 966 00:15:38,508 --> 00:15:40,508 right, but 967 00:15:40,510 --> 00:15:40,744 , uh, anyway, Big 968 00:15:40,744 --> 00:15:40,921 Al 969 00:15:40,921 --> 00:15:41,344 , 970 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:43,344 and, and, uh 971 00:15:44,581 --> 00:15:44,881 . These 972 00:15:44,881 --> 00:15:45,616 are the 973 00:15:45,616 --> 00:15:47,451 people doing your inspections 974 00:15:47,451 --> 00:15:47,684 . 975 00:15:47,684 --> 00:15:47,985 So 976 00:15:47,985 --> 00:15:49,186 every 977 00:15:49,186 --> 00:15:49,820 hour 978 00:15:49,820 --> 00:15:51,255 , roughly 15 to 979 00:15:51,255 --> 00:15:51,788 20 980 00:15:51,788 --> 00:15:52,122 inspections a day 981 00:15:52,122 --> 00:15:52,422 . In 982 00:15:52,422 --> 00:15:54,124 an 8 983 00:15:54,124 --> 00:15:54,825 hour 984 00:15:54,825 --> 00:15:55,959 day throughout the county 985 00:15:55,959 --> 00:15:56,560 means 986 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:56,827 they can only spend a minimum 987 00:15:56,827 --> 00:15:58,162 of 988 00:15:58,162 --> 00:15:58,729 15 minutes 989 00:15:58,729 --> 00:16:00,729 at each location 990 00:16:00,731 --> 00:16:01,640 . 991 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,866 Every 992 00:16:02,866 --> 00:16:03,634 time that 993 00:16:03,634 --> 00:16:04,802 has been 994 00:16:04,802 --> 00:16:05,336 sold 995 00:16:05,336 --> 00:16:05,602 this last spring 996 00:16:05,602 --> 00:16:05,803 and 997 00:16:05,803 --> 00:16:06,103 summer 998 00:16:06,103 --> 00:16:07,337 when 999 00:16:07,337 --> 00:16:08,205 we've had Al 1000 00:16:08,205 --> 00:16:09,506 . And, and 1001 00:16:09,506 --> 00:16:10,730 , 1002 00:16:10,730 --> 00:16:10,407 and Sean and, and 1003 00:16:10,407 --> 00:16:11,642 uh I 1004 00:16:11,642 --> 00:16:12,343 haven't 1005 00:16:12,343 --> 00:16:12,743 had Randy on one of mine, but I 1006 00:16:12,743 --> 00:16:14,245 know he's 1007 00:16:14,245 --> 00:16:14,511 out there doing it, 1008 00:16:14,511 --> 00:16:14,979 ok 1009 00:16:14,979 --> 00:16:16,146 . All 1010 00:16:16,146 --> 00:16:16,480 their 1011 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,349 work stops 1012 00:16:18,349 --> 00:16:18,849 . It 1013 00:16:18,849 --> 00:16:19,183 don't get, it 1014 00:16:19,183 --> 00:16:20,885 just stops 1015 00:16:20,885 --> 00:16:21,518 . 1016 00:16:21,518 --> 00:16:22,190 Because they're the only ones 1017 00:16:22,190 --> 00:16:23,487 you have to 1018 00:16:23,487 --> 00:16:23,661 do it. So here 1019 00:16:23,661 --> 00:16:23,987 you 1020 00:16:23,987 --> 00:16:25,557 got your 1021 00:16:25,557 --> 00:16:25,955 key pe 1022 00:16:25,955 --> 00:16:26,524 uh from the 1023 00:16:26,524 --> 00:16:27,525 commercial side 1024 00:16:27,525 --> 00:16:27,745 , your 1025 00:16:27,745 --> 00:16:28,590 three key 1026 00:16:28,590 --> 00:16:28,325 people 1027 00:16:28,325 --> 00:16:30,325 . Ok 1028 00:16:30,427 --> 00:16:32,630 . That are out 1029 00:16:32,630 --> 00:16:32,730 doing 1030 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:33,300 legwork and everything stops in 1031 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:34,432 here 1032 00:16:34,432 --> 00:16:34,899 . No 1033 00:16:34,899 --> 00:16:35,333 plan reviews are done 1034 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:37,100 or anything 1035 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:37,401 like that. And the 1036 00:16:37,401 --> 00:16:38,903 thing is 1037 00:16:38,903 --> 00:16:39,370 , is that 1038 00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:39,670 , uh, you're 1039 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:41,172 not 1040 00:16:41,172 --> 00:16:41,872 going to, and it's not 1041 00:16:41,872 --> 00:16:43,607 going to be efficient to 1042 00:16:43,607 --> 00:16:45,607 try to 1043 00:16:45,843 --> 00:16:46,276 train other staff members to do 1044 00:16:46,276 --> 00:16:48,212 these roles 1045 00:16:48,212 --> 00:16:48,678 . Because they're 1046 00:16:48,678 --> 00:16:50,810 already tasked 1047 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:50,714 with a, with 1048 00:16:50,714 --> 00:16:52,490 what they're doing 1049 00:16:52,490 --> 00:16:52,212 . The 1050 00:16:52,212 --> 00:16:53,840 , the 1051 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,251 thing is, is maybe you need to 1052 00:16:54,251 --> 00:16:55,219 , 1053 00:16:55,219 --> 00:16:55,419 maybe we need to remove some 1054 00:16:55,419 --> 00:16:56,987 of 1055 00:16:56,987 --> 00:16:57,622 the 1056 00:16:57,622 --> 00:16:58,890 non-essential tasks that 1057 00:16:58,890 --> 00:17:00,890 they're doing 1058 00:17:01,459 --> 00:17:01,893 . The uh in my 1059 00:17:01,893 --> 00:17:02,293 career, I've 1060 00:17:02,293 --> 00:17:03,528 learned that 1061 00:17:03,528 --> 00:17:04,261 the 1062 00:17:04,261 --> 00:17:05,463 whole purpose of the, the 1063 00:17:05,463 --> 00:17:06,331 , the 1064 00:17:06,331 --> 00:17:08,466 permitting process, is that me 1065 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:09,320 already? Ok, one more minute. 1066 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,368 Ok. Is that another 1067 00:17:10,368 --> 00:17:10,539 3 minutes 1068 00:17:10,539 --> 00:17:10,768 ? 1069 00:17:10,768 --> 00:17:11,168 No 1070 00:17:11,168 --> 00:17:12,303 . Life safety 1071 00:17:12,303 --> 00:17:12,537 , life 1072 00:17:12,537 --> 00:17:12,971 safety, 1073 00:17:12,971 --> 00:17:14,705 life safety 1074 00:17:14,705 --> 00:17:15,380 . Ok 1075 00:17:15,380 --> 00:17:15,540 , why can't we 1076 00:17:15,540 --> 00:17:17,342 focus on that 1077 00:17:17,342 --> 00:17:17,609 ? Why is it we had 1078 00:17:17,609 --> 00:17:18,420 to 1079 00:17:18,420 --> 00:17:19,477 the example is 1080 00:17:19,477 --> 00:17:19,978 why is it we 1081 00:17:19,978 --> 00:17:21,546 had to for 1082 00:17:21,546 --> 00:17:21,979 40 years we've 1083 00:17:21,979 --> 00:17:22,312 turned in 1084 00:17:22,312 --> 00:17:23,681 water 1085 00:17:23,681 --> 00:17:24,582 availability 1086 00:17:24,582 --> 00:17:26,840 letter from pud to the 1087 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:26,651 county 1088 00:17:26,651 --> 00:17:28,253 signed by the 1089 00:17:28,253 --> 00:17:30,253 pud engineer 1090 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:31,256 . Now 1091 00:17:31,256 --> 00:17:33,256 effective 1092 00:17:33,258 --> 00:17:33,757 this last the spring 1093 00:17:33,757 --> 00:17:34,926 here 1094 00:17:34,926 --> 00:17:35,359 now 1095 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:35,927 public works, they 1096 00:17:35,927 --> 00:17:38,630 have their own form 1097 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:39,231 . It has 1098 00:17:39,231 --> 00:17:39,464 to 1099 00:17:39,464 --> 00:17:40,365 go 1100 00:17:40,365 --> 00:17:41,799 back out and it has to 1101 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:42,167 be 1102 00:17:42,167 --> 00:17:44,200 signed 1103 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:44,269 by pud 1104 00:17:44,269 --> 00:17:44,703 with 1105 00:17:44,703 --> 00:17:46,271 the 1106 00:17:46,271 --> 00:17:46,738 that's 1107 00:17:46,738 --> 00:17:47,710 been on 1108 00:17:47,710 --> 00:17:48,439 the 1109 00:17:48,439 --> 00:17:48,639 letter 1110 00:17:48,639 --> 00:17:49,241 of 1111 00:17:49,241 --> 00:17:49,673 water 1112 00:17:49,673 --> 00:17:51,109 availability 1113 00:17:51,109 --> 00:17:52,844 for 40 some years 1114 00:17:52,844 --> 00:17:53,645 . 1115 00:17:53,645 --> 00:17:55,580 Oh, they did attack, I think a 1116 00:17:55,580 --> 00:17:55,847 $300 fee to 1117 00:17:55,847 --> 00:17:56,147 it 1118 00:17:56,147 --> 00:17:57,316 also 1119 00:17:57,316 --> 00:17:57,950 375 or 1120 00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:59,918 something like that 1121 00:17:59,918 --> 00:18:00,118 , ok 1122 00:18:00,118 --> 00:18:00,619 . The, 1123 00:18:00,619 --> 00:18:02,870 the, the other 1124 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:02,888 , the main thing 1125 00:18:02,888 --> 00:18:04,423 I, last thing I want to try to 1126 00:18:04,423 --> 00:18:06,172 hit on 1127 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:06,754 is 1128 00:18:06,754 --> 00:18:07,134 that we 1129 00:18:07,134 --> 00:18:08,467 , the county 1130 00:18:08,467 --> 00:18:09,500 requires third 1131 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:09,626 party 1132 00:18:09,626 --> 00:18:10,550 inspections by credited 1133 00:18:10,550 --> 00:18:11,195 professional people 1134 00:18:11,195 --> 00:18:11,556 . Is 1135 00:18:11,556 --> 00:18:11,964 that me 1136 00:18:11,964 --> 00:18:13,598 ? That's 1137 00:18:13,598 --> 00:18:14,366 you. Yep. Can I take 1138 00:18:14,366 --> 00:18:15,517 an extra second, please 1139 00:18:15,517 --> 00:18:16,216 ? Just a 1140 00:18:16,216 --> 00:18:18,216 second here 1141 00:18:18,437 --> 00:18:18,969 . Accredited people 1142 00:18:18,969 --> 00:18:19,938 Peter's 1143 00:18:19,938 --> 00:18:20,832 laughing because he 1144 00:18:20,832 --> 00:18:21,298 knows me. Ok 1145 00:18:21,298 --> 00:18:22,740 . The bottom 1146 00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:22,589 line 1147 00:18:22,589 --> 00:18:24,475 is, is, uh 1148 00:18:24,475 --> 00:18:26,475 , Um 1149 00:18:27,413 --> 00:18:27,956 , they were doing 1150 00:18:27,956 --> 00:18:28,981 3rd 1151 00:18:28,981 --> 00:18:29,909 party 1152 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:31,233 inspections 1153 00:18:31,233 --> 00:18:32,219 by 1154 00:18:32,219 --> 00:18:33,195 credited agencies 1155 00:18:33,195 --> 00:18:34,339 , geos 1156 00:18:34,339 --> 00:18:34,960 , many 1157 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,670 others, ok 1158 00:18:35,670 --> 00:18:36,677 . Why did 1159 00:18:36,677 --> 00:18:38,378 the county 1160 00:18:38,378 --> 00:18:40,326 have to do them too 1161 00:18:40,326 --> 00:18:42,326 ? I 1162 00:18:42,461 --> 00:18:43,991 , so 1163 00:18:43,991 --> 00:18:45,379 , so 1164 00:18:45,379 --> 00:18:46,211 then you're sending them out. 1165 00:18:46,211 --> 00:18:47,350 We have 2 people look at 1166 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:48,483 all of 1167 00:18:48,483 --> 00:18:49,903 those tasks 1168 00:18:49,903 --> 00:18:51,851 , and 1169 00:18:51,851 --> 00:18:53,242 they 1170 00:18:53,242 --> 00:18:54,537 require 1171 00:18:54,537 --> 00:18:55,851 it to 1172 00:18:55,851 --> 00:18:57,497 do 1173 00:18:57,497 --> 00:18:58,517 our concrete work 1174 00:18:58,517 --> 00:19:00,517 , our 1175 00:19:00,569 --> 00:19:02,549 rebar 1176 00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:04,549 , our 1177 00:19:04,996 --> 00:19:06,722 our structural 1178 00:19:06,722 --> 00:19:08,513 , our 1179 00:19:08,513 --> 00:19:09,954 embeds 1180 00:19:09,954 --> 00:19:11,279 into our 1181 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:11,956 uh or the 1182 00:19:11,956 --> 00:19:12,872 , the 1183 00:19:12,872 --> 00:19:13,491 embeds into the slabs 1184 00:19:13,491 --> 00:19:14,263 and 1185 00:19:14,263 --> 00:19:14,756 so 1186 00:19:14,756 --> 00:19:15,680 forth 1187 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:15,554 . There's got to be a 1188 00:19:15,554 --> 00:19:16,207 better way 1189 00:19:16,207 --> 00:19:16,781 , and 1190 00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:17,294 the bottom line 1191 00:19:17,294 --> 00:19:18,341 is, is you are 1192 00:19:18,341 --> 00:19:18,859 , you are 1193 00:19:18,859 --> 00:19:19,208 putting 1194 00:19:19,208 --> 00:19:19,709 the 1195 00:19:19,709 --> 00:19:20,562 , the 1196 00:19:20,562 --> 00:19:21,147 brakes on what 1197 00:19:21,147 --> 00:19:21,679 you're 1198 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:21,909 complaining about. It's not 1199 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:22,445 having revenue 1200 00:19:22,445 --> 00:19:22,970 . But yet 1201 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:23,454 you've 1202 00:19:23,454 --> 00:19:23,993 got 1203 00:19:23,993 --> 00:19:24,504 Two 1204 00:19:24,504 --> 00:19:25,113 that Shelby's project 1205 00:19:25,113 --> 00:19:25,485 and ours are kitty corner from 1206 00:19:25,485 --> 00:19:25,998 each other 1207 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:26,401 . They're both coming 1208 00:19:26,401 --> 00:19:26,734 out of the city 1209 00:19:26,734 --> 00:19:27,143 of 1210 00:19:27,143 --> 00:19:27,870 Anacortes 1211 00:19:27,870 --> 00:19:28,390 , 1212 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:28,965 Tusktchet County 1213 00:19:28,965 --> 00:19:29,824 . And 1214 00:19:29,824 --> 00:19:30,467 my 1215 00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:31,110 question is 1216 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:31,691 , Why can't they be 1217 00:19:31,691 --> 00:19:32,169 here sooner 1218 00:19:32,169 --> 00:19:32,722 ? Thank you 1219 00:19:32,722 --> 00:19:33,248 . Anybody 1220 00:19:33,248 --> 00:19:33,995 else 1221 00:19:33,995 --> 00:19:34,455 ? Mr 1222 00:19:34,455 --> 00:19:35,140 . Won 1223 00:19:35,140 --> 00:19:35,339 . Got you go right 1224 00:19:35,339 --> 00:19:37,117 ahead 1225 00:19:37,117 --> 00:19:39,117 . Let them out 1226 00:19:41,254 --> 00:19:41,679 . Rebecca 1227 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:42,220 Peck 1228 00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:43,523 from Bow. Good morning 1229 00:19:43,523 --> 00:19:44,391 . 1230 00:19:44,391 --> 00:19:45,958 There's a lot of things going 1231 00:19:45,958 --> 00:19:46,259 on in our country right now 1232 00:19:46,259 --> 00:19:48,610 that 1233 00:19:48,610 --> 00:19:48,428 are 1234 00:19:48,428 --> 00:19:50,196 unjust and 1235 00:19:50,196 --> 00:19:50,521 And 1236 00:19:50,521 --> 00:19:51,131 people 1237 00:19:51,131 --> 00:19:51,431 aren't being held accountable 1238 00:19:51,431 --> 00:19:52,732 for 1239 00:19:52,732 --> 00:19:53,133 that, and that's something 1240 00:19:53,133 --> 00:19:54,434 that needs 1241 00:19:54,434 --> 00:19:54,901 to 1242 00:19:54,901 --> 00:19:55,602 change. This 1243 00:19:55,602 --> 00:19:56,736 county stands for liberty 1244 00:19:56,736 --> 00:19:57,604 and 1245 00:19:57,604 --> 00:19:58,138 justice for all, and that's not 1246 00:19:58,138 --> 00:19:59,139 happening here 1247 00:19:59,139 --> 00:19:59,358 right 1248 00:19:59,358 --> 00:19:59,638 now 1249 00:19:59,638 --> 00:20:00,390 . Just 1250 00:20:00,390 --> 00:20:01,141 gonna do 1251 00:20:01,141 --> 00:20:01,608 one 1252 00:20:01,608 --> 00:20:02,750 example today 1253 00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:03,944 , ice 1254 00:20:03,944 --> 00:20:04,444 is shredding 1255 00:20:04,444 --> 00:20:06,213 the 1256 00:20:06,213 --> 00:20:06,647 Constitution 1257 00:20:06,647 --> 00:20:08,415 violating 6 1258 00:20:08,415 --> 00:20:09,490 constitutional 1259 00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:10,517 amendments daily as 1260 00:20:10,517 --> 00:20:11,117 they kidnap 1261 00:20:11,117 --> 00:20:11,518 people off the streets from 1262 00:20:11,518 --> 00:20:12,886 work sites 1263 00:20:12,886 --> 00:20:13,353 , from hospitals, 1264 00:20:13,353 --> 00:20:14,921 from courts 1265 00:20:14,921 --> 00:20:15,656 , and even two 1266 00:20:15,656 --> 00:20:15,989 blocks from right from here, 1267 00:20:15,989 --> 00:20:17,391 right 1268 00:20:17,391 --> 00:20:17,691 here in Mount Vernon 1269 00:20:17,691 --> 00:20:18,580 . The 1270 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:19,660 list is 1271 00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:19,859 long and includes 1272 00:20:19,859 --> 00:20:20,159 many 1273 00:20:20,159 --> 00:20:21,695 rites 1274 00:20:21,695 --> 00:20:22,950 . First 1275 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:22,729 Amendment includes 1276 00:20:22,729 --> 00:20:23,797 the freedom of speech 1277 00:20:23,797 --> 00:20:24,331 , freedom 1278 00:20:24,331 --> 00:20:24,565 of press, rights 1279 00:20:24,565 --> 00:20:24,932 to 1280 00:20:24,932 --> 00:20:26,166 peacefully 1281 00:20:26,166 --> 00:20:26,567 assemble 1282 00:20:26,567 --> 00:20:26,933 . Ice 1283 00:20:26,933 --> 00:20:27,131 violates 1284 00:20:27,131 --> 00:20:27,401 that 1285 00:20:27,401 --> 00:20:28,535 watch 1286 00:20:28,535 --> 00:20:30,535 any video 1287 00:20:31,805 --> 00:20:32,638 . The Fourth 1288 00:20:32,638 --> 00:20:33,173 Amendment rights of people to 1289 00:20:33,173 --> 00:20:33,474 be secure in 1290 00:20:33,474 --> 00:20:33,941 their person's 1291 00:20:33,941 --> 00:20:35,209 house, papers 1292 00:20:35,209 --> 00:20:35,509 , and 1293 00:20:35,509 --> 00:20:36,110 effects 1294 00:20:36,110 --> 00:20:37,344 against unreasonable 1295 00:20:37,344 --> 00:20:37,645 searches 1296 00:20:37,645 --> 00:20:37,945 and 1297 00:20:37,945 --> 00:20:39,713 seizures 1298 00:20:39,713 --> 00:20:40,147 , seizures 1299 00:20:40,147 --> 00:20:40,514 , right 1300 00:20:40,514 --> 00:20:41,882 and also 1301 00:20:41,882 --> 00:20:42,810 the right to 1302 00:20:42,810 --> 00:20:42,583 probable 1303 00:20:42,583 --> 00:20:44,583 cause warrants 1304 00:20:44,585 --> 00:20:45,252 . Fifth Amendment 1305 00:20:45,252 --> 00:20:46,287 and I'm quoting, these 1306 00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:47,210 are 1307 00:20:47,210 --> 00:20:47,488 words directly from the 1308 00:20:47,488 --> 00:20:48,889 Constitution 1309 00:20:48,889 --> 00:20:49,149 , nor 1310 00:20:49,149 --> 00:20:49,333 be 1311 00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:49,657 be 1312 00:20:49,657 --> 00:20:51,580 deprived 1313 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:51,659 of life, liberty, or 1314 00:20:51,659 --> 00:20:53,940 property 1315 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:53,560 without 1316 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:53,794 due 1317 00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:54,950 process of 1318 00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:56,950 law 1319 00:20:56,196 --> 00:20:58,320 . Sixth Amendment to have 1320 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,234 the assistance of counsel for 1321 00:21:00,234 --> 00:21:00,735 his defense. 8th 1322 00:21:00,735 --> 00:21:02,570 Amendment Ex 1323 00:21:02,570 --> 00:21:02,937 excessive bail shall not be 1324 00:21:02,937 --> 00:21:04,438 required 1325 00:21:04,438 --> 00:21:04,638 , nor excessive 1326 00:21:04,638 --> 00:21:05,600 fines 1327 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,674 imposed 1328 00:21:06,674 --> 00:21:07,740 , nor cruel 1329 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:07,408 and 1330 00:21:07,408 --> 00:21:09,243 unusual 1331 00:21:09,243 --> 00:21:09,777 punishments afflicted 1332 00:21:09,777 --> 00:21:11,450 . Go 1333 00:21:11,450 --> 00:21:11,712 visit 1334 00:21:11,712 --> 00:21:12,130 a detention center, see if 1335 00:21:12,130 --> 00:21:13,280 that's 1336 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,280 not cruel 1337 00:21:15,683 --> 00:21:15,983 . Uh 1338 00:21:15,983 --> 00:21:16,217 , 16th 1339 00:21:16,217 --> 00:21:16,385 , no 1340 00:21:16,385 --> 00:21:17,180 , 1341 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:17,885 the 14th Amendment is 1342 00:21:17,885 --> 00:21:18,352 the 1343 00:21:18,352 --> 00:21:18,920 civil 1344 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,388 rights amendment 1345 00:21:20,388 --> 00:21:20,553 , Section 1 1346 00:21:20,553 --> 00:21:21,880 , 1347 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,289 nor denied to 1348 00:21:22,289 --> 00:21:22,857 any 1349 00:21:22,857 --> 00:21:23,491 person within 1350 00:21:23,491 --> 00:21:24,625 its jurisdiction 1351 00:21:24,625 --> 00:21:24,792 the 1352 00:21:24,792 --> 00:21:25,393 equal 1353 00:21:25,393 --> 00:21:26,694 protection of the 1354 00:21:26,694 --> 00:21:26,928 law 1355 00:21:26,928 --> 00:21:27,562 , and 1356 00:21:27,562 --> 00:21:29,297 that's talking about any 1357 00:21:29,297 --> 00:21:29,964 . 1358 00:21:29,964 --> 00:21:31,598 Actual person in the us 1359 00:21:31,598 --> 00:21:31,782 . Sure 1360 00:21:31,782 --> 00:21:32,133 , 1361 00:21:32,133 --> 00:21:33,567 let's blame 1362 00:21:33,567 --> 00:21:33,835 the 1363 00:21:33,835 --> 00:21:34,536 emigrants for 1364 00:21:34,536 --> 00:21:36,400 what's wrong in our country 1365 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:36,437 . 1366 00:21:36,437 --> 00:21:36,938 Instead of 1367 00:21:36,938 --> 00:21:38,172 greedy white 1368 00:21:38,172 --> 00:21:38,973 men 1369 00:21:38,973 --> 00:21:39,274 taking so much from everyone 1370 00:21:39,274 --> 00:21:41,410 else 1371 00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:41,408 . Food 1372 00:21:41,408 --> 00:21:42,544 rots 1373 00:21:42,544 --> 00:21:42,777 in 1374 00:21:42,777 --> 00:21:43,445 grocery 1375 00:21:43,445 --> 00:21:43,845 dumpsters while somebody nearby 1376 00:21:43,845 --> 00:21:45,845 is hungry 1377 00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:47,248 . Empty houses 1378 00:21:47,248 --> 00:21:47,983 or 1379 00:21:47,983 --> 00:21:48,216 apartments, and people sleeping 1380 00:21:48,216 --> 00:21:49,851 on 1381 00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:50,251 the 1382 00:21:50,251 --> 00:21:51,453 street. There 1383 00:21:51,453 --> 00:21:52,220 is 1384 00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:52,554 medicine, but can you afford it 1385 00:21:52,554 --> 00:21:53,855 when you 1386 00:21:53,855 --> 00:21:54,550 need 1387 00:21:54,550 --> 00:21:54,422 it 1388 00:21:54,422 --> 00:21:54,823 . If not, it's 1389 00:21:54,823 --> 00:21:56,290 the farm 1390 00:21:56,290 --> 00:21:56,892 workers' fault, or 1391 00:21:56,892 --> 00:21:57,359 maybe it's the nursing home 1392 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,960 worker's fault 1393 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,461 . Whoever is 1394 00:21:59,461 --> 00:22:01,461 brown or black 1395 00:22:03,164 --> 00:22:03,465 . Here's a quote 1396 00:22:03,465 --> 00:22:03,765 from 1397 00:22:03,765 --> 00:22:05,266 a song 1398 00:22:05,266 --> 00:22:05,667 by the system of 1399 00:22:05,667 --> 00:22:07,402 the Down 1400 00:22:07,402 --> 00:22:07,635 . Why 1401 00:22:07,635 --> 00:22:07,903 do 1402 00:22:07,903 --> 00:22:08,336 presidents 1403 00:22:08,336 --> 00:22:09,404 always fight 1404 00:22:09,404 --> 00:22:09,805 a 1405 00:22:09,805 --> 00:22:10,172 war 1406 00:22:10,172 --> 00:22:10,772 ? Why do they 1407 00:22:10,772 --> 00:22:13,172 always send the poor 1408 00:22:14,410 --> 00:22:14,211 ? Yes 1409 00:22:14,211 --> 00:22:14,877 , 1410 00:22:14,877 --> 00:22:15,243 let's blame the immigrants for 1411 00:22:15,243 --> 00:22:16,545 shredding 1412 00:22:16,545 --> 00:22:17,120 our 1413 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:17,479 constitution, not 1414 00:22:17,479 --> 00:22:18,713 those greedy 1415 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:19,247 white men 1416 00:22:19,247 --> 00:22:19,514 . Thank 1417 00:22:19,514 --> 00:22:21,514 you 1418 00:22:23,418 --> 00:22:23,819 . Thank you 1419 00:22:23,819 --> 00:22:25,819 . Anybody else 1420 00:22:28,122 --> 00:22:28,757 ? I 1421 00:22:28,757 --> 00:22:30,592 love the passion in 1422 00:22:30,592 --> 00:22:32,592 the room 1423 00:22:32,895 --> 00:22:33,161 . 1424 00:22:33,161 --> 00:22:34,396 This 1425 00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:35,630 is 1426 00:22:35,630 --> 00:22:36,999 Elka McCartney from 1427 00:22:36,999 --> 00:22:37,399 Anacortes again, uh, this 1428 00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:38,834 is 1429 00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:39,902 my 1430 00:22:39,902 --> 00:22:41,870 stop lithium Bess comet number 1431 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:43,872 32. I continue to quote from 1432 00:22:43,872 --> 00:22:44,473 Seattle Times opinion piece by 1433 00:22:44,473 --> 00:22:46,750 Snowqualmie 1434 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:46,542 City Council member 1435 00:22:46,542 --> 00:22:48,770 Dan Murphy 1436 00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:48,477 , quote 1437 00:22:48,477 --> 00:22:48,776 , The fossil 1438 00:22:48,776 --> 00:22:50,278 fuel 1439 00:22:50,278 --> 00:22:50,512 playbook's 2nd 1440 00:22:50,512 --> 00:22:50,980 page 1441 00:22:50,980 --> 00:22:52,381 is 1442 00:22:52,381 --> 00:22:53,215 fear 1443 00:22:53,215 --> 00:22:53,481 . Ask hard questions, and 1444 00:22:53,481 --> 00:22:54,917 then 1445 00:22:54,917 --> 00:22:55,417 the 1446 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:56,618 answers, the answer 1447 00:22:56,618 --> 00:22:57,453 is 1448 00:22:57,453 --> 00:22:57,953 threats of brownouts and 1449 00:22:57,953 --> 00:22:59,521 blackouts 1450 00:22:59,521 --> 00:23:00,189 unless this project 1451 00:23:00,189 --> 00:23:01,490 is built on this site 1452 00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:01,790 , on 1453 00:23:01,790 --> 00:23:02,625 this 1454 00:23:02,625 --> 00:23:04,126 schedule, the grid strain 1455 00:23:04,126 --> 00:23:04,593 . 1456 00:23:04,593 --> 00:23:06,128 Being invoked 1457 00:23:06,128 --> 00:23:06,662 is real concern, 1458 00:23:06,662 --> 00:23:08,640 and the biggest 1459 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:08,531 new 1460 00:23:08,531 --> 00:23:08,898 driver is 1461 00:23:08,898 --> 00:23:10,432 da da 1462 00:23:10,432 --> 00:23:11,100 da da 1463 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:11,400 data centers demand 1464 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,935 that 1465 00:23:12,935 --> 00:23:13,135 could add 2 1466 00:23:13,135 --> 00:23:13,536 to 1467 00:23:13,536 --> 00:23:15,304 4 Seattle's 1468 00:23:15,304 --> 00:23:15,871 worth of load across the 1469 00:23:15,871 --> 00:23:17,871 Northwest by 2030 1470 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:18,374 . But the 1471 00:23:18,374 --> 00:23:19,575 question of 1472 00:23:19,575 --> 00:23:20,109 who pays for that 1473 00:23:20,109 --> 00:23:21,744 and how 1474 00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:21,944 merits 1475 00:23:21,944 --> 00:23:22,545 careful 1476 00:23:22,545 --> 00:23:23,879 consideration, what it 1477 00:23:23,879 --> 00:23:24,247 doesn't 1478 00:23:24,247 --> 00:23:24,914 merit 1479 00:23:24,914 --> 00:23:25,982 , prioritizing 1480 00:23:25,982 --> 00:23:26,615 a 1481 00:23:26,615 --> 00:23:27,160 developer's profit and 1482 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,384 convenience 1483 00:23:28,384 --> 00:23:28,818 by 1484 00:23:28,818 --> 00:23:29,584 steamrolling 1485 00:23:29,584 --> 00:23:31,530 communities who are asking for 1486 00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:31,720 a 1487 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,322 transparent public process 1488 00:23:33,322 --> 00:23:33,890 . 1489 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:35,570 Quote requiring a 1490 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:35,625 public 1491 00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:36,125 hearing for a 1492 00:23:36,125 --> 00:23:37,860 utility scale 1493 00:23:37,860 --> 00:23:38,461 battery facility should be the 1494 00:23:38,461 --> 00:23:38,760 bare men and women. You know 1495 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,595 what 1496 00:23:39,595 --> 00:23:40,463 I say 1497 00:23:40,463 --> 00:23:42,310 . That 1498 00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:42,565 should be so 1499 00:23:42,565 --> 00:23:44,565 for 1500 00:23:44,635 --> 00:23:44,807 every lithium-bas unit 1501 00:23:44,807 --> 00:23:45,101 , 1502 00:23:45,101 --> 00:23:46,602 including 1503 00:23:46,602 --> 00:23:46,903 small ones 1504 00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:47,537 such as 1505 00:23:47,537 --> 00:23:48,538 the disaster that 1506 00:23:48,538 --> 00:23:48,838 is 1507 00:23:48,838 --> 00:23:49,171 on Samish 1508 00:23:49,171 --> 00:23:51,700 Island 1509 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:51,407 . Next to 1510 00:23:51,407 --> 00:23:51,674 the firehouse. 1511 00:23:51,674 --> 00:23:53,343 Oh 1512 00:23:53,343 --> 00:23:53,977 my gosh 1513 00:23:53,977 --> 00:23:55,411 , pse is not 1514 00:23:55,411 --> 00:23:56,346 taking 1515 00:23:56,346 --> 00:23:56,646 any responsibility whatsoever 1516 00:23:56,646 --> 00:23:57,614 for 1517 00:23:57,614 --> 00:23:57,914 the 1518 00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:58,159 noise 1519 00:23:58,159 --> 00:23:58,448 , the 1520 00:23:58,448 --> 00:23:58,782 impact on 1521 00:23:58,782 --> 00:24:00,250 local 1522 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:00,716 property owners 1523 00:24:00,716 --> 00:24:02,252 , the 1524 00:24:02,252 --> 00:24:02,686 environment 1525 00:24:02,686 --> 00:24:03,118 , and honestly, I 1526 00:24:03,118 --> 00:24:04,587 don't think 1527 00:24:04,587 --> 00:24:05,288 lithium best 1528 00:24:05,288 --> 00:24:06,556 installation should be 1529 00:24:06,556 --> 00:24:06,890 built 1530 00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:07,457 anywhere 1531 00:24:07,457 --> 00:24:09,250 on 1532 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:09,693 Earth because if 1533 00:24:09,693 --> 00:24:11,940 there's lithium involved 1534 00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:11,760 , it's 1535 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,295 dangerous from the start in the 1536 00:24:12,295 --> 00:24:14,640 way it's mined 1537 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:14,431 . With slave 1538 00:24:14,431 --> 00:24:15,866 labor 1539 00:24:15,866 --> 00:24:16,433 , toxic 1540 00:24:16,433 --> 00:24:16,666 mining practices 1541 00:24:16,666 --> 00:24:17,901 to 1542 00:24:17,901 --> 00:24:18,535 the 1543 00:24:18,535 --> 00:24:18,835 dangerous flammable, 1544 00:24:18,835 --> 00:24:20,237 hard 1545 00:24:20,237 --> 00:24:20,537 to 1546 00:24:20,537 --> 00:24:20,937 uninstall 1547 00:24:20,937 --> 00:24:21,271 finished 1548 00:24:21,271 --> 00:24:22,806 product 1549 00:24:22,806 --> 00:24:23,507 , and then there's the 1550 00:24:23,507 --> 00:24:24,840 aftermath of lithium 1551 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,241 fires. I 1552 00:24:25,241 --> 00:24:25,809 talked 1553 00:24:25,809 --> 00:24:26,977 about recently 1554 00:24:26,977 --> 00:24:27,344 the 1555 00:24:27,344 --> 00:24:27,677 Maui 1556 00:24:27,677 --> 00:24:27,977 method 1557 00:24:27,977 --> 00:24:29,446 of 1558 00:24:29,446 --> 00:24:29,780 post-fire 1559 00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:30,213 cleanup 1560 00:24:30,213 --> 00:24:31,581 after the 1561 00:24:31,581 --> 00:24:31,762 Lahaina fire 1562 00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:32,449 , Maui 1563 00:24:32,449 --> 00:24:33,583 needed to come up with a way 1564 00:24:33,583 --> 00:24:34,117 to 1565 00:24:34,117 --> 00:24:34,417 clean up the awful 1566 00:24:34,417 --> 00:24:34,818 mess left 1567 00:24:34,818 --> 00:24:36,286 behind by 1568 00:24:36,286 --> 00:24:36,820 all kinds of 1569 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:37,187 lithium 1570 00:24:37,187 --> 00:24:38,455 batteries 1571 00:24:38,455 --> 00:24:39,289 and make sure they 1572 00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:40,891 were safe enough to haul away 1573 00:24:40,891 --> 00:24:41,491 off island by as 1574 00:24:41,491 --> 00:24:42,593 many miles 1575 00:24:42,593 --> 00:24:43,227 , 1576 00:24:43,227 --> 00:24:44,761 the diesel fueled ships 1577 00:24:44,761 --> 00:24:45,161 . 1578 00:24:45,161 --> 00:24:45,896 Traveled and 1579 00:24:45,896 --> 00:24:47,896 then hauled via 1580 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:49,633 diesel fueled trains and trucks 1581 00:24:49,633 --> 00:24:49,875 to a place 1582 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:50,501 in 1583 00:24:50,501 --> 00:24:52,269 some unfortunate 1584 00:24:52,269 --> 00:24:54,137 us state to bury them 1585 00:24:54,137 --> 00:24:54,905 . We do 1586 00:24:54,905 --> 00:24:56,730 this over and over again. We 1587 00:24:56,730 --> 00:24:56,607 do 1588 00:24:56,607 --> 00:24:56,874 it over and over 1589 00:24:56,874 --> 00:24:58,742 . We say 1590 00:24:58,742 --> 00:24:59,276 , Hurry 1591 00:24:59,276 --> 00:25:00,744 up, we need to 1592 00:25:00,744 --> 00:25:01,444 fix this message 1593 00:25:01,444 --> 00:25:03,790 and then we get sprayed 1594 00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:03,781 with 1595 00:25:03,781 --> 00:25:05,480 ddt or we take safe 1596 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:05,783 and 1597 00:25:05,783 --> 00:25:06,250 effective medicines that turn 1598 00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:07,483 out not to be 1599 00:25:07,483 --> 00:25:07,985 so 1600 00:25:07,985 --> 00:25:08,586 like 1601 00:25:08,586 --> 00:25:10,540 thalidomide, OxyContin 1602 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:10,454 , Vioxx, 1603 00:25:10,454 --> 00:25:10,754 on and 1604 00:25:10,754 --> 00:25:12,456 on 1605 00:25:12,456 --> 00:25:12,857 , and then there's the 1606 00:25:12,857 --> 00:25:14,358 aftermath 1607 00:25:14,358 --> 00:25:14,792 , people ill 1608 00:25:14,792 --> 00:25:15,359 , 1609 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,827 permanently disabled 1610 00:25:16,827 --> 00:25:17,261 , or killed 1611 00:25:17,261 --> 00:25:17,661 and our 1612 00:25:17,661 --> 00:25:18,929 environment 1613 00:25:18,929 --> 00:25:19,920 trashed 1614 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:19,597 . 1615 00:25:19,597 --> 00:25:21,320 Let's prevent the need 1616 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,195 to 1617 00:25:21,195 --> 00:25:21,432 deal 1618 00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:21,665 with 1619 00:25:21,665 --> 00:25:22,660 a 1620 00:25:22,660 --> 00:25:23,300 disastrous 1621 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:23,534 aftermath 1622 00:25:23,534 --> 00:25:24,201 . 1623 00:25:24,201 --> 00:25:25,602 Moratorium right now 1624 00:25:25,602 --> 00:25:25,769 , a 1625 00:25:25,769 --> 00:25:26,170 many 1626 00:25:26,170 --> 00:25:26,537 years long 1627 00:25:26,537 --> 00:25:27,538 one until 1628 00:25:27,538 --> 00:25:28,139 you 1629 00:25:28,139 --> 00:25:28,472 actually get the truth 1630 00:25:28,472 --> 00:25:28,678 . And 1631 00:25:28,678 --> 00:25:28,940 the 1632 00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:30,608 answer 1633 00:25:30,608 --> 00:25:30,942 to the question of what 1634 00:25:30,942 --> 00:25:32,510 does 1635 00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:33,311 lithium best give us 1636 00:25:33,311 --> 00:25:34,679 ? More 1637 00:25:34,679 --> 00:25:35,413 next time 1638 00:25:35,413 --> 00:25:36,847 . Thank you so much 1639 00:25:36,847 --> 00:25:37,548 for 1640 00:25:37,548 --> 00:25:38,150 your attention and the 1641 00:25:38,150 --> 00:25:39,283 reference to 1642 00:25:39,283 --> 00:25:39,550 the articles 1643 00:25:39,550 --> 00:25:39,950 there 1644 00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:41,518 Thanks 1645 00:25:41,518 --> 00:25:43,688 . Anybody else? Go ahead 1646 00:25:43,688 --> 00:25:44,155 . 1647 00:25:44,155 --> 00:25:44,689 Ok, now 1648 00:25:44,689 --> 00:25:44,922 that she's scared you, 1649 00:25:44,922 --> 00:25:46,922 I 1650 00:25:47,992 --> 00:25:49,992 have to 1651 00:25:50,194 --> 00:25:50,427 . Oh 1652 00:25:50,427 --> 00:25:51,950 . Hi 1653 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:52,997 , I'm Laura 1654 00:25:52,997 --> 00:25:53,297 Stansbury Weis from Mount 1655 00:25:53,297 --> 00:25:54,832 Vernon 1656 00:25:54,832 --> 00:25:55,199 , and 1657 00:25:55,199 --> 00:25:55,533 I 1658 00:25:55,533 --> 00:25:57,000 have 1659 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,569 copies of 1660 00:25:57,569 --> 00:25:57,835 the stuff I'm going 1661 00:25:57,835 --> 00:25:59,137 to say 1662 00:25:59,137 --> 00:25:59,504 in 1663 00:25:59,504 --> 00:26:01,504 triplicate 1664 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:02,507 . Well, you heard the 1665 00:26:02,507 --> 00:26:04,750 bad news, which 1666 00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:04,576 is this stuff 1667 00:26:04,576 --> 00:26:06,177 is kind 1668 00:26:06,177 --> 00:26:06,477 of not really the best 1669 00:26:06,477 --> 00:26:06,878 for 1670 00:26:06,878 --> 00:26:08,645 our 1671 00:26:08,645 --> 00:26:09,147 ecologically delicate 1672 00:26:09,147 --> 00:26:10,615 situation, and 1673 00:26:10,615 --> 00:26:10,915 it's 1674 00:26:10,915 --> 00:26:11,870 cold 1675 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:11,516 , which 1676 00:26:11,516 --> 00:26:12,917 means they're 1677 00:26:12,917 --> 00:26:13,283 not 1678 00:26:13,283 --> 00:26:13,468 efficient 1679 00:26:13,468 --> 00:26:13,752 , 1680 00:26:13,752 --> 00:26:15,850 and 1681 00:26:15,850 --> 00:26:15,486 it's wet 1682 00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:17,486 , which means 1683 00:26:17,756 --> 00:26:18,289 . 1684 00:26:18,289 --> 00:26:19,958 They're dangerous 1685 00:26:19,958 --> 00:26:20,458 , but it turns 1686 00:26:20,458 --> 00:26:21,793 out there are 1687 00:26:21,793 --> 00:26:22,160 federal grants 1688 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,160 available 1689 00:26:24,629 --> 00:26:25,960 . And 1690 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,932 one of them 1691 00:26:26,932 --> 00:26:27,232 . Is 1692 00:26:27,232 --> 00:26:28,700 from 1693 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:28,934 the Department 1694 00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:29,103 of 1695 00:26:29,103 --> 00:26:29,567 Clean 1696 00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:31,203 the Office of 1697 00:26:31,203 --> 00:26:31,602 Clean 1698 00:26:31,602 --> 00:26:33,400 Energy from 1699 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,905 the 1700 00:26:33,905 --> 00:26:35,574 doe office 1701 00:26:35,574 --> 00:26:36,308 that is managing 1702 00:26:36,308 --> 00:26:37,809 a multi-million 1703 00:26:37,809 --> 00:26:38,777 dollar grant 1704 00:26:38,777 --> 00:26:39,778 program specifically designed 1705 00:26:39,778 --> 00:26:40,378 to 1706 00:26:40,378 --> 00:26:40,812 bring advanced battery 1707 00:26:40,812 --> 00:26:42,140 storage 1708 00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:42,380 to 1709 00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:44,380 rural grids 1710 00:26:44,716 --> 00:26:45,117 . And 1711 00:26:45,117 --> 00:26:46,518 through 1712 00:26:46,518 --> 00:26:47,252 the 1713 00:26:47,252 --> 00:26:48,453 ira expansion 1714 00:26:48,453 --> 00:26:48,754 , 1715 00:26:48,754 --> 00:26:49,521 there 1716 00:26:49,521 --> 00:26:51,223 are 1717 00:26:51,223 --> 00:26:51,757 reap grants that 1718 00:26:51,757 --> 00:26:51,990 cover up to 1719 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:53,425 50% 1720 00:26:53,425 --> 00:26:53,825 of 1721 00:26:53,825 --> 00:26:54,460 total 1722 00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:55,928 eligible project costs 1723 00:26:55,928 --> 00:26:56,628 for 1724 00:26:56,628 --> 00:26:57,996 renewable 1725 00:26:57,996 --> 00:26:58,230 energy systems 1726 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:58,664 and 1727 00:26:58,664 --> 00:27:00,399 integrated 1728 00:27:00,399 --> 00:27:01,165 battery storage 1729 00:27:01,165 --> 00:27:02,367 applications for our area 1730 00:27:02,367 --> 00:27:03,135 are 1731 00:27:03,135 --> 00:27:05,370 because our valley is 1732 00:27:05,370 --> 00:27:07,370 . I'm 1733 00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:09,408 pretty organic farming 1734 00:27:09,408 --> 00:27:10,750 , 1735 00:27:10,750 --> 00:27:11,443 agricultural co op, local 1736 00:27:11,443 --> 00:27:11,810 food 1737 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:12,111 processors 1738 00:27:12,111 --> 00:27:13,612 , seed 1739 00:27:13,612 --> 00:27:14,790 companies, and 1740 00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:14,313 you know, are 1741 00:27:14,313 --> 00:27:15,848 all 1742 00:27:15,848 --> 00:27:16,481 important 1743 00:27:16,481 --> 00:27:18,481 salmon fisheries 1744 00:27:18,784 --> 00:27:20,419 , um, they have 1745 00:27:20,419 --> 00:27:20,885 Uh 1746 00:27:20,885 --> 00:27:21,187 , I 1747 00:27:21,187 --> 00:27:22,655 think 1748 00:27:22,655 --> 00:27:22,955 it's like something 1749 00:27:22,955 --> 00:27:24,955 like 1750 00:27:25,858 --> 00:27:27,260 . Underutilized 1751 00:27:27,260 --> 00:27:27,293 technology 1752 00:27:27,293 --> 00:27:27,725 set 1753 00:27:27,725 --> 00:27:29,725 aside 1754 00:27:29,862 --> 00:27:30,229 Section 1755 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:30,629 22002 1756 00:27:30,629 --> 00:27:32,164 specifically 1757 00:27:32,164 --> 00:27:34,100 sets 1758 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:34,566 aside 303 1759 00:27:34,566 --> 00:27:36,350 million 1760 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:37,136 for 1761 00:27:37,136 --> 00:27:38,570 underutilized tech 1762 00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:39,204 and they have 1763 00:27:39,204 --> 00:27:41,204 . Uh 1764 00:27:43,142 --> 00:27:43,476 , An 1765 00:27:43,476 --> 00:27:43,809 actual 1766 00:27:43,809 --> 00:27:45,111 set 1767 00:27:45,111 --> 00:27:46,145 aside for them 1768 00:27:46,145 --> 00:27:47,613 . Through 1769 00:27:47,613 --> 00:27:48,347 the 1770 00:27:48,347 --> 00:27:49,415 domestic content bonus 1771 00:27:49,415 --> 00:27:49,649 in 1772 00:27:49,649 --> 00:27:50,482 the 1773 00:27:50,482 --> 00:27:52,170 ira domestic 1774 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:52,384 content Energy 1775 00:27:52,384 --> 00:27:52,718 Community 1776 00:27:52,718 --> 00:27:54,620 tax 1777 00:27:54,620 --> 00:27:56,620 bonus for uh 1778 00:27:56,956 --> 00:27:57,356 . 1779 00:27:57,356 --> 00:27:58,457 Basically 1780 00:27:58,457 --> 00:27:58,691 using 1781 00:27:58,691 --> 00:27:59,325 the 1782 00:27:59,325 --> 00:27:59,658 American 1783 00:27:59,658 --> 00:28:00,926 company 1784 00:28:00,926 --> 00:28:01,294 producing 1785 00:28:01,294 --> 00:28:01,827 them right 1786 00:28:01,827 --> 00:28:03,161 now, which seems 1787 00:28:03,161 --> 00:28:03,730 to be 1788 00:28:03,730 --> 00:28:04,197 eos 1789 00:28:04,197 --> 00:28:05,932 Energy as a 1790 00:28:05,932 --> 00:28:06,165 There 1791 00:28:06,165 --> 00:28:07,533 are 1792 00:28:07,533 --> 00:28:07,900 loan 1793 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:08,501 guarantees 1794 00:28:08,501 --> 00:28:09,801 . And 1795 00:28:09,801 --> 00:28:10,690 I 1796 00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:11,904 have 1797 00:28:11,904 --> 00:28:12,639 the 1798 00:28:12,639 --> 00:28:14,574 particulars in my handout 1799 00:28:14,574 --> 00:28:15,700 . That 1800 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:15,374 apply to 1801 00:28:15,374 --> 00:28:16,842 our 1802 00:28:16,842 --> 00:28:17,210 region and 1803 00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:17,509 situations 1804 00:28:17,509 --> 00:28:18,978 . So 1805 00:28:18,978 --> 00:28:19,746 if you want to 1806 00:28:19,746 --> 00:28:21,247 take a look at my handout, I 1807 00:28:21,247 --> 00:28:21,615 have it in 1808 00:28:21,615 --> 00:28:21,981 triplicate 1809 00:28:21,981 --> 00:28:22,382 . I 1810 00:28:22,382 --> 00:28:23,383 highlighted 1811 00:28:23,383 --> 00:28:23,883 some of 1812 00:28:23,883 --> 00:28:24,484 the more 1813 00:28:24,484 --> 00:28:26,119 interesting 1814 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,586 areas and you guys 1815 00:28:26,586 --> 00:28:27,721 can make your 1816 00:28:27,721 --> 00:28:28,540 own 1817 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:28,321 decisions, 1818 00:28:28,321 --> 00:28:28,788 but 1819 00:28:28,788 --> 00:28:30,560 . As 1820 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:30,623 a 1821 00:28:30,623 --> 00:28:31,224 person who's partner 1822 00:28:31,224 --> 00:28:32,425 died, I know about 1823 00:28:32,425 --> 00:28:32,892 people who 1824 00:28:32,892 --> 00:28:34,594 come along and 1825 00:28:34,594 --> 00:28:35,228 give you 1826 00:28:35,228 --> 00:28:35,662 expensive gifts, hoping they 1827 00:28:35,662 --> 00:28:36,829 can control 1828 00:28:36,829 --> 00:28:37,163 the 1829 00:28:37,163 --> 00:28:37,530 choices that 1830 00:28:37,530 --> 00:28:39,530 you make 1831 00:28:39,965 --> 00:28:41,401 . And 1832 00:28:41,401 --> 00:28:42,202 um sometimes you 1833 00:28:42,202 --> 00:28:42,601 gotta tell them no because they 1834 00:28:42,601 --> 00:28:44,700 don't have 1835 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:44,671 your best interests 1836 00:28:44,671 --> 00:28:45,939 at heart. They 1837 00:28:45,939 --> 00:28:46,573 want your farm 1838 00:28:46,573 --> 00:28:46,840 . 1839 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,840 So 1840 00:28:48,842 --> 00:28:49,241 I 1841 00:28:49,241 --> 00:28:50,977 urge you to 1842 00:28:50,977 --> 00:28:51,311 take a look at 1843 00:28:51,311 --> 00:28:51,611 some of 1844 00:28:51,611 --> 00:28:52,979 your 1845 00:28:52,979 --> 00:28:53,513 alternatives 1846 00:28:53,513 --> 00:28:53,914 because they aren't all 1847 00:28:53,914 --> 00:28:55,849 impossible 1848 00:28:55,849 --> 00:28:56,116 . Thank you, thank 1849 00:28:56,116 --> 00:28:57,150 you 1850 00:28:57,150 --> 00:28:57,817 very 1851 00:28:57,817 --> 00:28:59,620 much 1852 00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:00,187 . Anybody else in 1853 00:29:00,187 --> 00:29:02,587 the room? Go ahead 1854 00:29:08,495 --> 00:29:09,329 . My name is 1855 00:29:09,329 --> 00:29:10,864 Todd Ferguson 1856 00:29:10,864 --> 00:29:11,431 . I'm resident of 1857 00:29:11,431 --> 00:29:11,865 Skagia County my 1858 00:29:11,865 --> 00:29:13,233 whole life 1859 00:29:13,233 --> 00:29:14,100 , uh 1860 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,969 first off, I just want to say 1861 00:29:15,969 --> 00:29:16,403 . 1862 00:29:16,403 --> 00:29:17,905 Do a, do a 1863 00:29:17,905 --> 00:29:19,673 search on battery 1864 00:29:19,673 --> 00:29:20,541 . 1865 00:29:20,541 --> 00:29:22,409 Uh, what, what things are ready 1866 00:29:22,409 --> 00:29:22,710 to come online that are 1867 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:23,760 way 1868 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,244 safer and 1869 00:29:24,244 --> 00:29:24,745 way 1870 00:29:24,745 --> 00:29:24,913 better. I 1871 00:29:24,913 --> 00:29:25,245 would 1872 00:29:25,245 --> 00:29:26,513 implore 1873 00:29:26,513 --> 00:29:26,673 you guys to put 1874 00:29:26,673 --> 00:29:27,281 a 1875 00:29:27,281 --> 00:29:28,582 moratorium on this thing and 1876 00:29:28,582 --> 00:29:29,250 no 1877 00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:29,583 don't do it for 1878 00:29:29,583 --> 00:29:29,883 at least 5 1879 00:29:29,883 --> 00:29:30,951 years 1880 00:29:30,951 --> 00:29:31,652 , 3 1881 00:29:31,652 --> 00:29:33,320 or 4 years at minimum 1882 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,121 . 1883 00:29:34,121 --> 00:29:35,922 The other thing I want to talk 1884 00:29:35,922 --> 00:29:36,457 about is, uh, listening to 1885 00:29:36,457 --> 00:29:37,892 these guys here 1886 00:29:37,892 --> 00:29:38,559 . I've been a 1887 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:39,827 carpenter in Skagia 1888 00:29:39,827 --> 00:29:40,260 County for 1889 00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:40,861 44 years 1890 00:29:40,861 --> 00:29:41,962 , been a contractor 1891 00:29:41,962 --> 00:29:42,396 4 1892 00:29:42,396 --> 00:29:42,830 times, owned 1893 00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:44,830 a cabinet shop 1894 00:29:44,831 --> 00:29:45,300 . 1895 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,340 And the 1896 00:29:47,340 --> 00:29:47,635 problem with us, which 1897 00:29:47,635 --> 00:29:48,969 my wife and I have 1898 00:29:48,969 --> 00:29:49,770 experience 1899 00:29:49,770 --> 00:29:51,371 with the medical situation as 1900 00:29:51,371 --> 00:29:51,805 we remember how 1901 00:29:51,805 --> 00:29:52,600 it used to 1902 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:52,273 be. 1903 00:29:52,273 --> 00:29:53,774 And 1904 00:29:53,774 --> 00:29:54,441 I know I sound like an old 1905 00:29:54,441 --> 00:29:56,770 guy, it's because I am one 1906 00:29:56,770 --> 00:29:56,744 . You 1907 00:29:56,744 --> 00:29:57,878 can't talk to a doctor 1908 00:29:57,878 --> 00:29:58,446 . You 1909 00:29:58,446 --> 00:29:59,450 can't talk to, I 1910 00:29:59,450 --> 00:30:00,214 , I, when 1911 00:30:00,214 --> 00:30:00,748 I got 1912 00:30:00,748 --> 00:30:01,480 here, I said, can 1913 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,482 I get 1914 00:30:02,482 --> 00:30:03,184 uh the 1915 00:30:03,184 --> 00:30:03,417 paperwork for demolition permit 1916 00:30:03,417 --> 00:30:05,190 Oh 1917 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:05,253 , it's all online. It's 1918 00:30:05,253 --> 00:30:06,530 all 1919 00:30:06,530 --> 00:30:07,555 online. Everything's online 1920 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:07,822 . 1921 00:30:07,822 --> 00:30:09,257 When 1922 00:30:09,257 --> 00:30:09,757 we 1923 00:30:09,757 --> 00:30:10,240 , my partner and I 1924 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,358 went 1925 00:30:10,358 --> 00:30:11,725 to Cedar 1926 00:30:11,725 --> 00:30:12,160 Woolly 1927 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,460 and changed two 1928 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:13,527 stores 1929 00:30:13,527 --> 00:30:13,928 into 1930 00:30:13,928 --> 00:30:14,595 the chamber what is 1931 00:30:14,595 --> 00:30:15,630 now the Chamber of Commerce for 1932 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:16,963 Jack McIntyre 1933 00:30:16,963 --> 00:30:18,199 . We 1934 00:30:18,199 --> 00:30:18,966 walked across 1935 00:30:18,966 --> 00:30:19,200 as we started tearing down, oh 1936 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,835 no 1937 00:30:20,835 --> 00:30:21,680 , tearing down 1938 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,437 the 1939 00:30:22,437 --> 00:30:23,370 suspended 1940 00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:23,705 ceiling in the 1941 00:30:23,705 --> 00:30:24,872 two halves 1942 00:30:24,872 --> 00:30:25,573 . We 1943 00:30:25,573 --> 00:30:26,140 walked over to the building 1944 00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:27,141 department and the old 1945 00:30:27,141 --> 00:30:27,775 city 1946 00:30:27,775 --> 00:30:28,443 hall and we went up, got the 1947 00:30:28,443 --> 00:30:29,210 building inspector. He says 1948 00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:29,877 , 1949 00:30:29,877 --> 00:30:30,478 well, let me go over there and 1950 00:30:30,478 --> 00:30:30,844 see how, what, what you guys 1951 00:30:30,844 --> 00:30:31,779 are doing 1952 00:30:31,779 --> 00:30:32,413 . So, we went in and 1953 00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:33,810 said we're going to do this, 1954 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:33,982 we're going to do that 1955 00:30:33,982 --> 00:30:34,682 , we're 1956 00:30:34,682 --> 00:30:35,116 going to, you know, take the 1957 00:30:35,116 --> 00:30:36,217 party wall 1958 00:30:36,217 --> 00:30:36,718 down 1959 00:30:36,718 --> 00:30:36,951 , fix things up 1960 00:30:36,951 --> 00:30:37,285 , 1961 00:30:37,285 --> 00:30:38,453 rewire 1962 00:30:38,453 --> 00:30:38,786 some 1963 00:30:38,786 --> 00:30:39,487 stuff. He says, 1964 00:30:39,487 --> 00:30:39,821 yeah, he says, you probably 1965 00:30:39,821 --> 00:30:41,122 need to 1966 00:30:41,122 --> 00:30:41,822 get a permit 1967 00:30:41,822 --> 00:30:42,957 . But 1968 00:30:42,957 --> 00:30:43,825 while 1969 00:30:43,825 --> 00:30:45,660 I'm doing that, go ahead and 1970 00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:46,327 get started. If you have any 1971 00:30:46,327 --> 00:30:47,362 questions, just come over 1972 00:30:47,362 --> 00:30:48,630 and 1973 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:48,430 I'll come over and see what you 1974 00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:49,864 guys got 1975 00:30:49,864 --> 00:30:50,398 questions about 1976 00:30:50,398 --> 00:30:50,698 . I've 1977 00:30:50,698 --> 00:30:52,334 been a 1978 00:30:52,334 --> 00:30:52,701 carpenter, as I said, 1979 00:30:52,701 --> 00:30:54,168 for 44 1980 00:30:54,168 --> 00:30:54,603 years 1981 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:54,779 . I just need 1982 00:30:54,779 --> 00:30:55,300 to 1983 00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:56,438 know 1984 00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:57,710 two 1985 00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:57,805 things where the 1986 00:30:57,805 --> 00:30:58,573 property lines and where do 1987 00:30:58,573 --> 00:30:58,940 you 1988 00:30:58,940 --> 00:30:59,574 want it 1989 00:30:59,574 --> 00:31:00,675 to sit? I know 1990 00:31:00,675 --> 00:31:01,900 all 1991 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:01,276 about 1992 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:01,743 the 1993 00:31:01,743 --> 00:31:02,978 engineering spans 1994 00:31:02,978 --> 00:31:03,345 , 1995 00:31:03,345 --> 00:31:03,779 weights 1996 00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:04,212 , point loads 1997 00:31:04,212 --> 00:31:04,513 , all that 1998 00:31:04,513 --> 00:31:05,781 stuff 1999 00:31:05,781 --> 00:31:06,347 . And 2000 00:31:06,347 --> 00:31:07,716 I would 2001 00:31:07,716 --> 00:31:08,417 question 2002 00:31:08,417 --> 00:31:08,784 anybody that requires everybody 2003 00:31:08,784 --> 00:31:10,252 to put all 2004 00:31:10,252 --> 00:31:10,919 these stinking hole 2005 00:31:10,919 --> 00:31:11,186 downs and everything is to go 2006 00:31:11,186 --> 00:31:12,687 out 2007 00:31:12,687 --> 00:31:13,550 and look at some of those 2008 00:31:13,550 --> 00:31:14,823 80 and 90 2009 00:31:14,823 --> 00:31:15,190 and 100 year old 2010 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:16,825 farms 2011 00:31:16,825 --> 00:31:17,292 that 2012 00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:17,759 survived the 90 mile 2013 00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:19,610 an hour 2014 00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:19,327 winds 2015 00:31:19,327 --> 00:31:19,628 back 2016 00:31:19,628 --> 00:31:21,163 in 19 2017 00:31:21,163 --> 00:31:21,597 or 2018 00:31:21,597 --> 00:31:21,897 2000 and yeah 2019 00:31:21,897 --> 00:31:23,897 , 1990 2020 00:31:23,966 --> 00:31:24,366 . They all 2021 00:31:24,366 --> 00:31:25,567 survived 2022 00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:26,101 2 2023 00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:26,301 by 4s on 2024 00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:26,535 a 2025 00:31:26,535 --> 00:31:27,903 1 2026 00:31:27,903 --> 00:31:28,804 by 6 2027 00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:30,439 piece of lath for a ridge pole 2028 00:31:30,439 --> 00:31:31,106 . 2029 00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:32,374 I've, I've seen it all 2030 00:31:32,374 --> 00:31:33,750 , and 2031 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:33,408 it's, you guys are 2032 00:31:33,408 --> 00:31:35,310 way 2033 00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:35,544 overthinking this thing, and so 2034 00:31:35,544 --> 00:31:37,346 I 2035 00:31:37,346 --> 00:31:37,946 just encourage what they said 2036 00:31:37,946 --> 00:31:39,281 If you're 2037 00:31:39,281 --> 00:31:39,548 going 2038 00:31:39,548 --> 00:31:40,115 to introduce 2039 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:41,517 one new rule. I've 2040 00:31:41,517 --> 00:31:42,217 challenged 2041 00:31:42,217 --> 00:31:42,717 you guys with this before. Take 2042 00:31:42,717 --> 00:31:44,220 out 10 of the 2043 00:31:44,220 --> 00:31:44,787 old ones because 2044 00:31:44,787 --> 00:31:46,421 they're making 2045 00:31:46,421 --> 00:31:46,889 it impossible to 2046 00:31:46,889 --> 00:31:48,257 build. Thank 2047 00:31:48,257 --> 00:31:48,724 you. Thank you, 2048 00:31:48,724 --> 00:31:50,724 John. Thank you 2049 00:31:50,826 --> 00:31:51,227 . Anybody else 2050 00:31:51,227 --> 00:31:53,227 in the room 2051 00:31:53,496 --> 00:31:55,264 ? Do 2052 00:31:55,264 --> 00:31:55,530 we 2053 00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:55,831 have 2054 00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:57,831 anybody 2055 00:31:58,340 --> 00:31:58,401 online? Telephone call 2056 00:31:58,401 --> 00:31:59,468 . He 2057 00:31:59,468 --> 00:32:00,369 was 2058 00:32:00,369 --> 00:32:01,404 ready to go. Hi, Ed Johnson 2059 00:32:01,404 --> 00:32:01,770 , 2060 00:32:01,770 --> 00:32:02,338 can you 2061 00:32:02,338 --> 00:32:02,738 talk now? Sure ahead. 2062 00:32:02,738 --> 00:32:04,738 Go ahead, Ed 2063 00:32:04,773 --> 00:32:06,375 . All 2064 00:32:06,375 --> 00:32:06,976 right. I 2065 00:32:06,976 --> 00:32:07,276 , um, 2066 00:32:07,276 --> 00:32:08,711 county 2067 00:32:08,711 --> 00:32:09,111 commissioners, I'm 2068 00:32:09,111 --> 00:32:09,612 in 2069 00:32:09,612 --> 00:32:11,314 LaConnor and 2070 00:32:11,314 --> 00:32:11,847 uh wow, I had one 2071 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:12,949 comment and I'm 2072 00:32:12,949 --> 00:32:13,583 , I guess I'll 2073 00:32:13,583 --> 00:32:14,490 make that one quick, and that 2074 00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:15,418 is we got to 2075 00:32:15,418 --> 00:32:16,218 get rid of all 2076 00:32:16,218 --> 00:32:17,620 this negativity 2077 00:32:17,620 --> 00:32:18,870 and hate 2078 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:18,721 , which 2079 00:32:18,721 --> 00:32:20,556 is displayed in so many 2080 00:32:20,556 --> 00:32:23,250 different ways like no parking 2081 00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:23,593 signs and what you can't do, 2082 00:32:23,593 --> 00:32:24,326 and I come to 2083 00:32:24,326 --> 00:32:24,594 the 2084 00:32:24,594 --> 00:32:25,940 realization 2085 00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:25,327 that we're driven 2086 00:32:25,327 --> 00:32:26,629 by 2087 00:32:26,629 --> 00:32:26,896 criminals 2088 00:32:26,896 --> 00:32:27,463 in 2089 00:32:27,463 --> 00:32:28,598 this country by all the 2090 00:32:28,598 --> 00:32:29,365 laws 2091 00:32:29,365 --> 00:32:29,965 and stuff, and that's not the 2092 00:32:29,965 --> 00:32:31,200 way I think it should 2093 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,634 be, but 2094 00:32:31,634 --> 00:32:32,201 we should be 2095 00:32:32,201 --> 00:32:34,337 , in fact, you know 2096 00:32:34,337 --> 00:32:35,271 congratulating and applauding 2097 00:32:35,271 --> 00:32:35,772 . 2098 00:32:35,772 --> 00:32:36,500 All those that 2099 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:36,306 do 2100 00:32:36,306 --> 00:32:36,739 well in our 2101 00:32:36,739 --> 00:32:37,807 communities 2102 00:32:37,807 --> 00:32:38,740 for 2103 00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:38,474 the community 2104 00:32:38,474 --> 00:32:39,942 at all 2105 00:32:39,942 --> 00:32:40,643 times 2106 00:32:40,643 --> 00:32:40,877 , and I'm a 2107 00:32:40,877 --> 00:32:42,877 big 2108 00:32:42,979 --> 00:32:45,140 advocate for if anyone does 2109 00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:45,348 something intentionally 2110 00:32:45,348 --> 00:32:47,183 to harm 2111 00:32:47,183 --> 00:32:47,417 emotionally, physically 2112 00:32:47,417 --> 00:32:47,984 , or 2113 00:32:47,984 --> 00:32:49,284 financially 2114 00:32:49,284 --> 00:32:49,919 , but they just go 2115 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:50,519 straight to the meat grinder 2116 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:51,287 and we put them in 2117 00:32:51,287 --> 00:32:51,588 the 2118 00:32:51,588 --> 00:32:51,810 ocean 2119 00:32:51,810 --> 00:32:52,640 or 2120 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,923 the 2121 00:32:53,923 --> 00:32:54,491 , the farmland because 2122 00:32:54,491 --> 00:32:55,825 there's no sense to 2123 00:32:55,825 --> 00:32:56,525 be going 2124 00:32:56,525 --> 00:32:56,828 through this process. I've been 2125 00:32:56,828 --> 00:32:58,495 to the 2126 00:32:58,495 --> 00:32:58,728 courts and I've seen 2127 00:32:58,728 --> 00:32:59,290 . 2128 00:32:59,290 --> 00:33:00,129 You 2129 00:33:00,129 --> 00:33:01,640 know 2130 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:01,397 , criminals saying that 2131 00:33:01,397 --> 00:33:02,832 they've 2132 00:33:02,832 --> 00:33:03,566 been 2133 00:33:03,566 --> 00:33:05,202 through 2134 00:33:05,202 --> 00:33:05,668 drug 2135 00:33:05,668 --> 00:33:07,169 rehabilitation 2136 00:33:07,169 --> 00:33:07,537 789 times. 2137 00:33:07,537 --> 00:33:07,804 What's the 2138 00:33:07,804 --> 00:33:09,506 point 2139 00:33:09,506 --> 00:33:10,206 ? Anyways, it's 2140 00:33:10,206 --> 00:33:11,608 just cost effective. Now 2141 00:33:11,608 --> 00:33:12,409 the 2142 00:33:12,409 --> 00:33:13,543 comment by one of the ladies 2143 00:33:13,543 --> 00:33:14,211 . 2144 00:33:14,211 --> 00:33:14,745 You know, often I find 2145 00:33:14,745 --> 00:33:16,245 they're 2146 00:33:16,245 --> 00:33:16,713 emotional. So 2147 00:33:16,713 --> 00:33:17,280 , um, the 2148 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,315 information regarding 2149 00:33:18,315 --> 00:33:18,915 lithium 2150 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:19,349 batteries for sure. I think 2151 00:33:19,349 --> 00:33:20,417 there should 2152 00:33:20,417 --> 00:33:20,684 be 2153 00:33:20,684 --> 00:33:21,351 some 2154 00:33:21,351 --> 00:33:21,618 uh looking 2155 00:33:21,618 --> 00:33:22,953 into 2156 00:33:22,953 --> 00:33:23,486 , uh, what was the other 2157 00:33:23,486 --> 00:33:25,210 comment, the other 2158 00:33:25,210 --> 00:33:25,221 . 30 2159 00:33:25,221 --> 00:33:25,856 . Well, 2160 00:33:25,856 --> 00:33:26,123 that's what happens when I get 2161 00:33:26,123 --> 00:33:27,124 old 2162 00:33:27,124 --> 00:33:27,891 . I 2163 00:33:27,891 --> 00:33:29,426 can't remember 2164 00:33:29,426 --> 00:33:30,930 anything 2165 00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:30,560 and there was another comment 2166 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,995 this lady had 2167 00:33:31,995 --> 00:33:32,629 . Can you remind 2168 00:33:32,629 --> 00:33:33,897 me, I think her name was 2169 00:33:33,897 --> 00:33:34,330 Patsy 2170 00:33:34,330 --> 00:33:34,865 or Patty or 2171 00:33:34,865 --> 00:33:36,566 . Ega 2172 00:33:36,566 --> 00:33:38,566 . No 2173 00:33:40,671 --> 00:33:40,834 . I 2174 00:33:40,834 --> 00:33:41,305 can't 2175 00:33:41,305 --> 00:33:41,905 remember whether she was 2176 00:33:41,905 --> 00:33:43,273 talking about. It was 2177 00:33:43,273 --> 00:33:44,107 only 2178 00:33:44,107 --> 00:33:45,676 one-sided though, because he 2179 00:33:45,676 --> 00:33:46,800 didn't incorporate 2180 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:46,343 . The 2181 00:33:46,343 --> 00:33:48,343 rest of 2182 00:33:48,478 --> 00:33:49,747 the story and 2183 00:33:49,747 --> 00:33:49,980 the 2184 00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:50,480 gentleman 2185 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,116 talking about the 2186 00:33:52,116 --> 00:33:52,516 uh redundancy 2187 00:33:52,516 --> 00:33:53,830 of quality 2188 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:54,485 and inspections. I'm 2189 00:33:54,485 --> 00:33:54,785 a 2190 00:33:54,785 --> 00:33:55,286 quality 2191 00:33:55,286 --> 00:33:56,387 specialist of 30 2192 00:33:56,387 --> 00:33:56,787 some 2193 00:33:56,787 --> 00:33:57,210 years, 37 2194 00:33:57,210 --> 00:33:57,487 , I 2195 00:33:57,487 --> 00:33:58,856 think, 7 2196 00:33:58,856 --> 00:33:59,256 states 2197 00:33:59,256 --> 00:33:59,990 , 4 2198 00:33:59,990 --> 00:34:01,580 countries, and the bottom 2199 00:34:01,580 --> 00:34:01,391 line 2200 00:34:01,391 --> 00:34:01,926 is, yeah 2201 00:34:01,926 --> 00:34:03,227 , quality is 2202 00:34:03,227 --> 00:34:03,627 a 2203 00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:04,429 totally 2204 00:34:04,429 --> 00:34:06,297 redundant system. Why? Because 2205 00:34:06,297 --> 00:34:06,564 humans suck. They always want 2206 00:34:06,564 --> 00:34:07,865 to 2207 00:34:07,865 --> 00:34:08,466 cut 2208 00:34:08,466 --> 00:34:08,933 corners and get away 2209 00:34:08,933 --> 00:34:10,267 with things. I 2210 00:34:10,267 --> 00:34:11,100 mean, when I 2211 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,169 worked in the military 2212 00:34:12,169 --> 00:34:12,737 for 2213 00:34:12,737 --> 00:34:13,300 countermeasures and 2214 00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:13,404 that 2215 00:34:13,404 --> 00:34:15,139 robotics and 2216 00:34:15,139 --> 00:34:15,739 the aerospace for 2217 00:34:15,739 --> 00:34:17,410 Boeing. I mean, it was 2218 00:34:17,410 --> 00:34:17,408 . Insane. 2219 00:34:17,408 --> 00:34:17,708 I mean 2220 00:34:17,708 --> 00:34:19,210 , you 2221 00:34:19,210 --> 00:34:19,510 think 2222 00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:19,877 about trying 2223 00:34:19,877 --> 00:34:21,445 to do a 2224 00:34:21,445 --> 00:34:21,615 job locally. How 2225 00:34:21,615 --> 00:34:22,146 about 2226 00:34:22,146 --> 00:34:23,614 globally? I was on 2227 00:34:23,614 --> 00:34:24,315 the 87 2228 00:34:24,315 --> 00:34:24,715 program and we were dealing 2229 00:34:24,715 --> 00:34:25,883 with people 2230 00:34:25,883 --> 00:34:26,350 in 2231 00:34:26,350 --> 00:34:26,543 Jordan and 2232 00:34:26,543 --> 00:34:26,784 Italy 2233 00:34:26,784 --> 00:34:28,850 and 2234 00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:28,686 , you know 2235 00:34:28,686 --> 00:34:30,187 , Japan and 2236 00:34:30,187 --> 00:34:30,988 Korea 2237 00:34:30,988 --> 00:34:31,288 and even South Carolina and 2238 00:34:31,288 --> 00:34:33,288 so 2239 00:34:33,424 --> 00:34:35,159 on. And so we were dealing with 2240 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:35,960 quality issues there and by the 2241 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,161 way, every plane that goes 2242 00:34:37,161 --> 00:34:37,928 to 2243 00:34:37,928 --> 00:34:38,162 the flight line getting ready 2244 00:34:38,162 --> 00:34:40,162 to 2245 00:34:40,164 --> 00:34:41,766 be delivered has probably 20 2246 00:34:41,766 --> 00:34:42,132 to 400 2247 00:34:42,132 --> 00:34:42,566 different 2248 00:34:42,566 --> 00:34:43,340 nonconforming 2249 00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:43,801 items on it 2250 00:34:43,801 --> 00:34:44,535 , and 2251 00:34:44,535 --> 00:34:45,300 I don't, I 2252 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:46,237 wouldn't fly 2253 00:34:46,237 --> 00:34:46,704 one of them 2254 00:34:46,704 --> 00:34:47,138 . That 2255 00:34:47,138 --> 00:34:48,740 thinking that 2256 00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:49,730 at 35,000 2257 00:34:49,730 --> 00:34:49,506 ft and 2258 00:34:49,506 --> 00:34:51,141 200 people 2259 00:34:51,141 --> 00:34:51,475 . It could fail or 2260 00:34:51,475 --> 00:34:53,144 cause 2261 00:34:53,144 --> 00:34:53,711 a catastrophic failure, 2262 00:34:53,711 --> 00:34:55,146 who knows? Just like 2263 00:34:55,146 --> 00:34:55,880 the 2264 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,181 lithium battery issue when they 2265 00:34:56,181 --> 00:34:57,615 paid 7 2266 00:34:57,615 --> 00:34:57,848 1st came out. So 2267 00:34:57,848 --> 00:34:58,116 , yeah, 2268 00:34:58,116 --> 00:34:59,817 it's 2269 00:34:59,817 --> 00:35:00,840 a redundant thing, but 2270 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:00,785 it's 2271 00:35:00,785 --> 00:35:01,886 necessary because 2272 00:35:01,886 --> 00:35:02,453 some 2273 00:35:02,453 --> 00:35:03,540 people just don't want to 2274 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:04,189 follow the rules. All 2275 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:04,361 right 2276 00:35:04,361 --> 00:35:04,989 , 2277 00:35:04,989 --> 00:35:06,725 well, I'll leave it at that 2278 00:35:06,725 --> 00:35:07,125 . 2279 00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:07,358 Thank you 2280 00:35:07,358 --> 00:35:08,727 , Ed 2281 00:35:08,727 --> 00:35:09,270 . Anybody else 2282 00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:11,270 online 2283 00:35:11,596 --> 00:35:13,164 ? Mr 2284 00:35:13,164 --> 00:35:13,632 . Burns, do you have 2285 00:35:13,632 --> 00:35:13,931 anything today 2286 00:35:13,931 --> 00:35:15,267 ? I've 2287 00:35:15,267 --> 00:35:15,532 got a 2288 00:35:15,532 --> 00:35:16,400 few 2289 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,769 things from last 2290 00:35:17,769 --> 00:35:18,370 week. First, I 2291 00:35:18,370 --> 00:35:18,804 want to say that I was, I'm 2292 00:35:18,804 --> 00:35:20,272 happy to see 2293 00:35:20,272 --> 00:35:20,471 the Jordan Creek 2294 00:35:20,471 --> 00:35:20,939 , 2295 00:35:20,939 --> 00:35:22,390 uh, temporary bridge 2296 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:22,440 is finally 2297 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,700 going in 2298 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:24,142 . We're seeing that 2299 00:35:24,142 --> 00:35:24,843 , uh 2300 00:35:24,843 --> 00:35:25,310 they're moving the trusses 2301 00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:26,645 across the, the 2302 00:35:26,645 --> 00:35:26,830 water 2303 00:35:26,830 --> 00:35:27,446 and 2304 00:35:27,446 --> 00:35:29,147 getting that in place 2305 00:35:29,147 --> 00:35:29,647 . I think 2306 00:35:29,647 --> 00:35:30,150 we had a good 2307 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:31,717 meeting in 2308 00:35:31,717 --> 00:35:32,500 Guaymas Island last week 2309 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:32,417 . Um, I 2310 00:35:32,417 --> 00:35:33,818 thought 2311 00:35:33,818 --> 00:35:34,586 it was productive. It 2312 00:35:34,586 --> 00:35:35,820 was interesting to hear the 2313 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:36,354 input from 2314 00:35:36,354 --> 00:35:36,722 residents, and that 2315 00:35:36,722 --> 00:35:37,856 was my 2316 00:35:37,856 --> 00:35:38,223 first 2317 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:38,590 time out there for 2318 00:35:38,590 --> 00:35:39,240 one of 2319 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,910 these community 2320 00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:40,726 town 2321 00:35:40,726 --> 00:35:42,327 halls, so there's a 2322 00:35:42,327 --> 00:35:42,995 good 2323 00:35:42,995 --> 00:35:43,662 opportunity for me to just um 2324 00:35:43,662 --> 00:35:44,997 connect with the residents 2325 00:35:44,997 --> 00:35:45,397 there and have a good 2326 00:35:45,397 --> 00:35:47,397 conversation 2327 00:35:47,466 --> 00:35:47,999 . I enjoyed going 2328 00:35:47,999 --> 00:35:49,167 to a senior day in 2329 00:35:49,167 --> 00:35:49,568 the park 2330 00:35:49,568 --> 00:35:50,268 in 2331 00:35:50,268 --> 00:35:51,336 Burlington last week 2332 00:35:51,336 --> 00:35:51,603 . I 2333 00:35:51,603 --> 00:35:52,237 was 2334 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:52,738 impressed with the number of 2335 00:35:52,738 --> 00:35:53,805 booths there and 2336 00:35:53,805 --> 00:35:54,640 how fast the 2337 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,908 place filled up with people 2338 00:35:55,908 --> 00:35:56,575 . 2339 00:35:56,575 --> 00:35:57,800 It's obviously very popular and 2340 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,210 it's a good 2341 00:35:58,210 --> 00:35:58,477 event for 2342 00:35:58,477 --> 00:35:59,144 , uh, 2343 00:35:59,144 --> 00:36:00,746 seniors to get out too and 2344 00:36:00,746 --> 00:36:01,413 see 2345 00:36:01,413 --> 00:36:01,947 different organizations that 2346 00:36:01,947 --> 00:36:02,615 are in the area 2347 00:36:02,615 --> 00:36:03,810 that could 2348 00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:04,817 benefit them 2349 00:36:04,817 --> 00:36:05,350 . And 2350 00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:05,951 , uh, final 2351 00:36:05,951 --> 00:36:07,186 thing I have on here 2352 00:36:07,186 --> 00:36:07,920 is 2353 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,420 Burlington Chamber of Commerce. 2354 00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:09,722 I went there on 2355 00:36:09,722 --> 00:36:10,556 Wednesday and 2356 00:36:10,556 --> 00:36:11,757 uh gave the state of the county 2357 00:36:11,757 --> 00:36:12,224 and a North 2358 00:36:12,224 --> 00:36:12,591 Star 2359 00:36:12,591 --> 00:36:14,591 update and 2360 00:36:14,692 --> 00:36:14,994 really enjoyed getting to talk 2361 00:36:14,994 --> 00:36:16,261 with 2362 00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:16,595 them 2363 00:36:16,595 --> 00:36:17,196 and tell them a 2364 00:36:17,196 --> 00:36:17,596 little bit more about what's 2365 00:36:17,596 --> 00:36:18,631 going on 2366 00:36:18,631 --> 00:36:19,640 in the county and 2367 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:19,498 answer some 2368 00:36:19,498 --> 00:36:20,532 questions along 2369 00:36:20,532 --> 00:36:20,900 the 2370 00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:21,600 way, so 2371 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,350 That I had for last 2372 00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:23,669 week. Thank 2373 00:36:23,669 --> 00:36:24,300 you, Commissioner 2374 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:25,738 Browning 2375 00:36:25,738 --> 00:36:26,105 . Yes, senior day in 2376 00:36:26,105 --> 00:36:27,606 the park 2377 00:36:27,606 --> 00:36:27,777 was really great 2378 00:36:27,777 --> 00:36:28,507 , 2379 00:36:28,507 --> 00:36:30,208 except I realized that a lot of 2380 00:36:30,208 --> 00:36:30,543 the seniors they were younger 2381 00:36:30,543 --> 00:36:32,543 than me 2382 00:36:32,845 --> 00:36:34,347 . But it was still a 2383 00:36:34,347 --> 00:36:34,747 good day 2384 00:36:34,747 --> 00:36:35,114 to see a lot 2385 00:36:35,114 --> 00:36:36,983 of 2386 00:36:36,983 --> 00:36:37,350 services. Last week we had a 2387 00:36:37,350 --> 00:36:39,151 fairly 2388 00:36:39,151 --> 00:36:39,952 big, um, I'm also a 2389 00:36:39,952 --> 00:36:40,987 hospital commissioner. We had 2390 00:36:40,987 --> 00:36:41,621 a 2391 00:36:41,621 --> 00:36:41,954 hospital meeting about the 2392 00:36:41,954 --> 00:36:43,289 changes 2393 00:36:43,289 --> 00:36:43,856 in Medicare and 2394 00:36:43,856 --> 00:36:44,624 Medicaid. I hope everybody 2395 00:36:44,624 --> 00:36:45,324 really looks at that seriously 2396 00:36:45,324 --> 00:36:45,858 . 2397 00:36:45,858 --> 00:36:46,125 It's going to 2398 00:36:46,125 --> 00:36:47,593 be 2399 00:36:47,593 --> 00:36:47,994 changing the 2400 00:36:47,994 --> 00:36:48,461 landscape 2401 00:36:48,461 --> 00:36:49,896 of our community 2402 00:36:49,896 --> 00:36:50,563 , our 2403 00:36:50,563 --> 00:36:51,230 country significantly. We're 2404 00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:51,531 going to have a lot of people 2405 00:36:51,531 --> 00:36:52,231 who 2406 00:36:52,231 --> 00:36:52,698 will 2407 00:36:52,698 --> 00:36:53,499 be going to the 2408 00:36:53,499 --> 00:36:54,967 emergency rooms because that's 2409 00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:55,501 the only healthcare they have 2410 00:36:55,501 --> 00:36:56,836 available to them 2411 00:36:56,836 --> 00:36:57,203 . There will 2412 00:36:57,203 --> 00:36:57,769 be a lot 2413 00:36:57,769 --> 00:36:58,838 of hospitals going 2414 00:36:58,838 --> 00:36:59,606 out 2415 00:36:59,606 --> 00:37:00,106 of business because right now 2416 00:37:00,106 --> 00:37:01,207 it just hanging 2417 00:37:01,207 --> 00:37:01,707 on by 2418 00:37:01,707 --> 00:37:02,342 a thread 2419 00:37:02,342 --> 00:37:03,576 and that, the thread 2420 00:37:03,576 --> 00:37:04,900 is going 2421 00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:05,745 to be much 2422 00:37:05,745 --> 00:37:06,120 tighter after 2423 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,846 , uh, 2424 00:37:06,846 --> 00:37:08,800 the new, the new rules come 2425 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:08,347 into play 2426 00:37:08,347 --> 00:37:08,815 , so 2427 00:37:08,815 --> 00:37:09,480 if you're talking 2428 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,717 to 2429 00:37:10,717 --> 00:37:11,250 your legislators, make sure 2430 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:12,285 they realize 2431 00:37:12,285 --> 00:37:12,585 that 2432 00:37:12,585 --> 00:37:12,952 healthcare is 2433 00:37:12,952 --> 00:37:14,952 one of 2434 00:37:15,688 --> 00:37:16,222 those necessary parts of 2435 00:37:16,222 --> 00:37:17,157 our life, not 2436 00:37:17,157 --> 00:37:17,757 exotic healthcare 2437 00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:19,325 We all deserve the 2438 00:37:19,325 --> 00:37:19,793 , the really 2439 00:37:19,793 --> 00:37:20,920 expensive and 2440 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:20,527 sometimes 2441 00:37:20,527 --> 00:37:21,628 nonproductive 2442 00:37:21,628 --> 00:37:22,262 stuff, but those 2443 00:37:22,262 --> 00:37:22,729 things that keep us walking, 2444 00:37:22,729 --> 00:37:24,300 keep us eating 2445 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:24,330 , keep us talking 2446 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:26,330 So 2447 00:37:26,832 --> 00:37:28,235 That's enough for right now 2448 00:37:28,235 --> 00:37:29,168 . 2449 00:37:29,168 --> 00:37:30,904 Yeah, thank you, uh, you both 2450 00:37:30,904 --> 00:37:31,271 mentioned the senior day in the 2451 00:37:31,271 --> 00:37:33,271 park and 2452 00:37:33,306 --> 00:37:33,772 uh the Guaymas Island 2453 00:37:33,772 --> 00:37:35,410 uh meeting we 2454 00:37:35,410 --> 00:37:35,475 had out there 2455 00:37:35,475 --> 00:37:36,800 , we 2456 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,277 sent about 5 or 6 2457 00:37:37,277 --> 00:37:38,780 different 2458 00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:38,311 letters out this last week. One 2459 00:37:38,311 --> 00:37:39,779 of 2460 00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:40,247 them was a score 2461 00:37:40,247 --> 00:37:41,614 , the 2462 00:37:41,614 --> 00:37:42,480 Skee 2463 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,480 County, um 2464 00:37:44,384 --> 00:37:44,851 . Group on aging who 2465 00:37:44,851 --> 00:37:46,486 have taken 2466 00:37:46,486 --> 00:37:46,820 over the Meals 2467 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:47,153 on 2468 00:37:47,153 --> 00:37:48,388 Wheels 2469 00:37:48,388 --> 00:37:48,654 and also 2470 00:37:48,654 --> 00:37:49,222 they're going 2471 00:37:49,222 --> 00:37:49,656 to be taking over the 2472 00:37:49,656 --> 00:37:50,991 Burlington and 2473 00:37:50,991 --> 00:37:51,158 Mount 2474 00:37:51,158 --> 00:37:51,491 Vernon 2475 00:37:51,491 --> 00:37:51,792 Senior 2476 00:37:51,792 --> 00:37:52,960 Center 2477 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,594 Management 2478 00:37:53,594 --> 00:37:54,127 Programs. I really appreciate 2479 00:37:54,127 --> 00:37:55,562 them for that. Um 2480 00:37:55,562 --> 00:37:55,829 , gpac, which 2481 00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:57,764 is 2482 00:37:57,764 --> 00:37:59,764 Island, um 2483 00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:00,300 . Planning group 2484 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:00,634 we 2485 00:38:00,634 --> 00:38:02,502 sent 2486 00:38:02,502 --> 00:38:02,903 uh response letter to 2487 00:38:02,903 --> 00:38:04,671 them 2488 00:38:04,671 --> 00:38:04,972 , um, also the 2489 00:38:04,972 --> 00:38:06,473 washing 2490 00:38:06,473 --> 00:38:06,807 and 2491 00:38:06,807 --> 00:38:07,141 futures 2492 00:38:07,141 --> 00:38:08,975 water 2493 00:38:08,975 --> 00:38:09,643 futures 2494 00:38:09,643 --> 00:38:11,110 initiative, we had a 2495 00:38:11,110 --> 00:38:11,779 round 2496 00:38:11,779 --> 00:38:13,480 table meeting that was 2497 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,281 select 2498 00:38:14,281 --> 00:38:15,649 people, um, the Department 2499 00:38:15,649 --> 00:38:16,417 of 2500 00:38:16,417 --> 00:38:17,818 Ecology people are up here 2501 00:38:17,818 --> 00:38:18,651 and 2502 00:38:18,651 --> 00:38:20,120 there's probably 30 people in 2503 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,721 the room 2504 00:38:20,721 --> 00:38:22,189 , um, we sent 2505 00:38:22,189 --> 00:38:22,890 a 2506 00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:23,289 response after that 2507 00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:25,289 meeting. Um 2508 00:38:25,459 --> 00:38:27,930 we have 2509 00:38:27,930 --> 00:38:27,495 Forest advisory group 2510 00:38:27,495 --> 00:38:28,162 , 2511 00:38:28,162 --> 00:38:29,296 um, a new member, Carter 2512 00:38:29,296 --> 00:38:29,964 . 2513 00:38:29,964 --> 00:38:31,431 Manning is going to be 2514 00:38:31,431 --> 00:38:31,866 joining 2515 00:38:31,866 --> 00:38:33,533 that. Also 2516 00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:33,967 , uh, planning 2517 00:38:33,967 --> 00:38:35,836 commission, uh 2518 00:38:35,836 --> 00:38:36,537 . Jan Larsson is 2519 00:38:36,537 --> 00:38:36,904 now on the planning commission, 2520 00:38:36,904 --> 00:38:37,971 so some 2521 00:38:37,971 --> 00:38:38,406 of the 2522 00:38:38,406 --> 00:38:39,400 letters and 2523 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,440 conversations we've done this 2524 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,108 last week 2525 00:38:41,108 --> 00:38:41,375 . All right. Anything 2526 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:42,643 else 2527 00:38:42,643 --> 00:38:42,910 at this time 2528 00:38:42,910 --> 00:38:43,443 ? That's 2529 00:38:43,443 --> 00:38:44,878 everything today. So 2530 00:38:44,878 --> 00:38:45,646 , with that 2531 00:38:45,646 --> 00:38:45,947 we're adjourned. Thank you very 2532 00:38:45,947 --> 00:38:47,947 much