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Good morning, everybody. I'm going to call this meeting in the Son of County Board of Supervisors to order. Madam Clerk, welcome, please.

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Supervisor James? Supervisor Brown? Yes. Supervisor Williams? Here? Supervisor Vasquez? Here. And Chair Mashwin? Here. If you could all please join me in the pledge allegiance to a moment of silence.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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is one nation under God, indivisible, liberty, and justice for all.

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Thank you all very much.

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that Madam Clerk, it brings us to item one.

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Adopt and present a resolution recognizing August 26th, 2025 as national

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Women's Equality Day in Solano County.

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Do I have a motion?

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I would like

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to ask my guests to come to the podium please.

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Are you pardoned?

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Oh, sorry.

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Football is in two weeks, so my brain is there.

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So ordered by the 5-0.

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Good morning, everyone.

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And this resolution is an honor of National Women's Equality Day.

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We're as national women's equality day marks the adoption of the 19th Amendment in 1920

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which granted women the right to vote.

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And whereas women of the United States have been treated as second class citizens and

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have not been entitled the full rights and privileges, public or private, legal, or institutional

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which are available to male citizens of the United States.

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And whereas women in the United States have continually worked to gain full rights and

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privileges, public or private, legal or institutional, as citizens of the United States.

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And whereas women in every state and every culture and religious group work to secure women's

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rights to vote, whereas Congress has dedicated August 28th the day, the date, the 19th Amendment

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was certified as women's equity day.

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And whereas recognizing national women's equity day as a day of celebration

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throughout the country, emphasizing the importance of women's work for democracy

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and demonstrates the importance of the women's suffrage movement and the work to secure and expand equal rights.

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Now, therefore, be resolved that the Salano County Board of Supervisors hereby recognize August 26th as National Women's Equity Day.

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Accepting the resolution is the Salano Napa, excuse me, Salano Valley Alumni Chapter of the Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated.

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The Sorority is a service organization whose purpose is to provide assistance and support in local communities

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throughout the world and their major programs focus on economic development, physical and mental health,

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education, educational development, political awareness and involvement, international awareness

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and involvement. And representing the sorority is a lot of raspberry who will not only be accepting

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in the Board of Supervisors Resolution,

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but also a proclamation from my office as well.

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So at this time, I'd like to bring Lana Raspberry forward

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to share some words.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Greetings, Chairman Mashburn and members

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of the Salano Board of Supervisors,

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esteemed guests and fellow community leaders.

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On behalf of the Salano Valley alumni chapter

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of Delta Sigma Theta sorority,

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I bring greetings and these remarks from our president, Tamra Moore Ward.

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My name is Lana Raspberry and I am the social action chair for the chapter.

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We are honored to accept this award.

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We are deeply grateful for this recognition of our service and commitment to women and families.

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Both here in Salano County and abroad.

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We want to thank you for shining on the light on the work of our chapter and

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done for and has done for your commitment. From the pin of our president, Delta

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Sigma Theta was founded in January 1913 on the campus of Howard University in

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Washington DC. 22 young college women created an organization on the

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principles of sisterhood scholarship service and social action. We now have

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over 300,000 members internationally and have remained steadfast in our

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mission to uplift, empower, and equip women, and young people to thrive.

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Our local chapter, Solano Valley, alumni was chartered in 1991 and has actively served

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the communities of Fairfills, Assum, Dixon, and back of Hill.

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Whether it's through scholarship writing workshops or the hygiene packets that we provide to women

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in local shelters and foster homes.

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Our work is grounded in meeting real needs

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with compassion and action.

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We made efforts to meet the needs of our kids of color

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in the juvenile justice system

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by also providing hair care products

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specific to their needs.

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We also partnered with the League of Women Voters

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to present a civil curriculum designed to equip them

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with basic tenants of federal and local government.

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Our chapter also provides two different types of scholarships to young people in

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Salano County. One is our Sickle Sale Scholarship. The other is our

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Santhea Warren Scholarship for all young ladies in Salano County who are high

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school seniors. This scholarship has been offered more than 30 years. This past year

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we provided over $10,000 to our recipients. We're also proud of our international

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and outreach supporting women in Haiti

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with essential supplies like shoes, clothing and hygiene items

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because we know our impact should extend beyond borders.

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Our Delta GIMS program will be reintroduced this coming year.

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This program provides tools to enable girls 14 through 18

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to sharpen and enhance their skills to achieve high levels of academic success.

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Yes, every act of giving, every scholarship awarded and every life touched is a reminder

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that change happens at the grassroots with organizations like ours and communities

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like this one.

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Thank you to the Board for not only recognizing our work but valuing it.

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Your supportive firms that service still matters and that our daughters, our sisters and

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And our communities deserve our very best efforts.

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This proclamation is received with humility and renewed dedication.

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Thank you.

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So we're starting to go down the takes.

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Follow.

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All right.

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Madam Clerk, next step is item two, please.

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Adopt

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and present a resolution recognizing September 2025 as Adult Literacy Awareness Month in Solano County.

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Do I have a motion?

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All right, and on this item I do have one card in for public comment and I think it's Mr. Eugene Polito.

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Do you have a comment?

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Elaine, I'm sorry, it's really tiny. You write really small.

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So we'd like since you wanted to do a public comment, we thought you would speak first.

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I will bring everybody down and do the resolution if that works for you.

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Okay, Elaine.

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Thank you and I apologize.

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I'm Elaine Pledo.

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I actually work here for Smono County for the District of Tardis Office.

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And I've also been a volunteer for the adult literacy program for the Smono County Library

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for almost 19 years.

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And I will tell you not only do these learners learn reading skills and essential life skills,

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but the tutors and the volunteers in the program also learn.

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So they've enriched my life.

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They, you know, we gain communication skills and empathy through this program.

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So I just want to thank you for supporting the program and for the literacy program at the slanta county library.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Thank you, and make sure you come up with

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everybody else with the literacy.

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Launa, don't make me stand here by myself.

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Come on, I see a few of you, come on.

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you know who you are I know who you are so

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even though I taught math I know you

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have to learn how to read to do those word problems so I appreciate you guys

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doing what you're doing so this is the resolution of the Salona County Board

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as supervisors recognizing September 2025 as adult literacy awareness month

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and I will just go right into who needs to speak which I'm assuming it's you all

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All right.

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You can read anything you want, my friend.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right, this is the, well, first of all,

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thank you Chair Mitch Mashburn for this opportunity

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and members of the board on David Lewis

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and I'm the program manager for the literacy program.

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So this is Resolution Number 2025-184.

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Resolution of the Salano County Board of Supervisors recognizing September, 2025 as adult literacy awareness month.

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Whereas, the need for a highly literate citizenry increases as Salano County and the state of California move toward an increasingly technological future impacting the way that we receive, share and utilize information.

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And, whereas more than 50% of Salano County adults experience literacy issues that impact

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their lives and families, their ability to work productively, and their full participation

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as citizens and residents of Salano County.

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And whereas the need for adults to be able to read, understand, and share information related

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to community concerns and activities, including public health, employment, child education,

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and public safety, benefits, all who live and work in Solano County,

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and whereas Solano County citizens are encouraged to learn more about the importance of adult literacy

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and how they can support literacy in our community.

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Now therefore be it resolved that Solano County Board of Supervisors does hereby recognize September 2025

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as adult literacy awareness month in Solano County.

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Dated this 26th day of August, 2025.

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this year in May, we celebrated 30 years of literacy services in Solano County. And so, we had a big celebration at the county event center. And I'm really proud of that. Thank you.

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It was a good party.

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If you know anybody who has nothing to do, like, really bored, I have nothing to do.

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We can use you.

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And then you get a party.

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So if you're going to do it, you need to do it for the party, right?

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Absolutely.

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Okay, there you go.

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Absolutely.

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Yes.

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And what Elaine reminded us of, you get to learn things and also build some empathy and learn

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learn more about how to help other people.

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So I wanted to thank the Board of Supervisors for recognizing September as Adult Literacy

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Awareness Month in Salano County and for their continued support for the library and

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the library programs.

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And I want to acknowledge the hard work of our learners and tutors.

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We currently have 166 active volunteer tutors in our program.

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And last year, they provided over 7,200 volunteer hours.

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The countywide, we have 381 adults enrolled in the program.

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163 are matched and actively working with a tutor and

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another 215 are waiting to be prepared or waiting to be paired.

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And that's what Monica was alluding to.

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If you want to volunteer, if you want to do something to help the community then come to the literacy program.

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I also want to recognize the literacy staff for their tireless efforts.

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And again, thank you for your support and the recognition.

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It's because all of us working together that we can make a difference.

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Thank you.

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Hi, I'm Jennie Lee, I have, I work with a group of English as a second language learners in English.

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they represent several countries, several different countries, Chinese, Japanese, they're

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mostly Mexican, or Spanish speaking, and they need pronunciation and grammar and vocabulary,

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but more than that, they need help in how to fit into American society.

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community. They need a small, warm and welcoming group of people to join. And I have thought

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of book clubs, music clubs, hiking clubs, swimming clubs, bridge clubs, even church groups

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who are notoriously warm and welcoming. But they don't have a clue how to fit in, how to

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make friends, or normal, ordinary American friends.

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Like you, tutors are wonderful.

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And we definitely need more tutors.

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But they talk with me several times a week.

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And that's good.

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We have a good time.

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But they need more.

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They need how to fit into American society.

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I need help with that.

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So if anybody has any ideas, please.

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Anybody else?

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It's in the audience.

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Wanna come say something?

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So come on up, guys.

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We're gonna do pictures.

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of my kids.

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Madam Clerk, would you bring just to item three, ma'am?

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Please.

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Adopt and present.

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A resolution recognizing September 2025 as workforce development month in Salano County.

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Do I have a motion?

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It's sorted by vote of 5-0.

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All right.

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I mean, I can do this by myself.

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Thank

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you.

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It's keep coming

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this is only half the team yeah it takes a lot to stand back up

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there yeah that's good okay and then we'll go up here for pictures as you guys

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mean all right so here we go so you have to learn how to read and then you come

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over here to work for development so I thought this was you know work worked out

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just perfect on the agenda. So, I'll just read one of the where-as is, whereas the United States

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Congress approved a bipartisan resolution in September of 2017 that designated September as

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national workforce development month to promote the American workforce and acknowledge the crucial

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role workforce development plays in their growing United States economy. And you've got a whole bunch

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to people back here, and I believe we have somebody in my talk.

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There we go.

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Thank you, Monica.

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Wait a minute.

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One second.

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Was that a phone?

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Did I hear a phone?

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I did hear a phone.

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To the County Board of Supervisors, and on behalf of my team, sorry, I'm tall.

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So I'll hold this up as I can.

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Thank you for taking this moment to set up the month of September, it recognizes Workforce

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Development Month.

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If we haven't had a chance to meet yet, I've met some of y'all during the interview process.

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My name is Dave Hubble.

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I'm the new president and executive director of the workforce development board.

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I know I have big shoes to fill.

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My predecessor, you may know Heather Henry did a fabulous job, but I can tell you she's built a strong team.

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I've been on board for just a couple of weeks and I've taken the opportunity to observe the work that this team does.

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and I can tell you, I genuinely am absolutely amazed at the hard work and dedication that's been provided by our workforce development specialist, starting with the 30 years of tremendous leadership provided by Mr. Mary and Aiken.

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I'm just thinking about that for a moment.

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I can imagine the hundreds, if not thousands, of people who have been affected by the work of this dedicated man.

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and to my front office staff, Lauren Bender and

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Tam Galatine to help me keep the trains running on time, and keeping fiscal responsibility,

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making sure that we hire a great talent.

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They do tremendous work to Tracy White, who I don't believe is here right now.

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She's out there in the field working, who leads our one stop shop team.

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They're the face of our organization, they're the folks who receive the folks coming in our doors, right?

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and ensure that we do the intake, the triage, make sure they get the resources that they need.

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And they go out to Travis Air Force Base, work with our service members who are transitioning out into the civilian workforce.

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They reach out to our veterans, I am a veteran, that's very important to me.

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To Matthew Moon Bailey, who leads our job Secret Services team, who don't just help folks find work.

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but actually work with some of our most vulnerable members in our community who have hopes, wants, and dreams.

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And they help provide the training and the resources that they need to get them on a journey that leads to a career path that helps them fulfill their hopes, wants, and dreams.

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To our business solutions team led by April, I hope I say April's name, last name right.

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Right, she's on vacation, they'll kill me later.

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But who is our eyes and ears to the business community, and to our employers, to ensure that our employers receive the talent that they've been looking for.

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The skill sets that they need to not only succeed as a business but to thrive in our community, right?

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And then, okay, and then finally, Michael Bessain, a leader of our Small Business Development Center, again, thank you, I know I can go on and on.

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But thank you for the resources that this board has provided, and we look forward to working with you in the days ahead.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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All right.

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Oh, and by the way, Tammy is one of my students, too.

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The world is small, and so on, okay, I'll use.

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Keep going, guys.

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Yes.

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you get my anew?

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I guess you're going to ask your question.

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So let's get started.

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Three, one, two, three.

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Oh, it is.

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I'm sorry.

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How are you doing?

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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How are you doing?

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I got to come over.

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I know.

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I want to close myself a note.

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I'll see you soon.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you.

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Madam Clerk, item 4 please.

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Please.

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Adopt and present a resolution recognizing September 2025 as National Preparedness Month.

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Do I have a mission?

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So ordered by vote of 5-0.

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Good morning, everybody.

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Today, we're going to recognize National Preparedness Month in Solano County.

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It's held each September.

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The mission of the Solano County Office of Emergency Services is to protect lives, property, and

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the environment by preparing for, responding to, recovering from, and mitigating the effects

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of natural and human cause emergencies.

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September is National Preparedness Month, which promotes public awareness about the

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importance of being prepared for a full range of emergencies and to encourage communities

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to take action to strengthen security and resiliency of our families and businesses.

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The community of Solano County should join together, join cities, special districts,

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non-profits, and community-based organizations across the nation to ensure action is taken,

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including assessing disaster preparedness information readily available to the county website,

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and to get involved with emergency preparedness and planning.

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The Solano County Board of Supervisors on behalf of the communities of Solano County.

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And hereby recognize the month of September, 2025, as National Preparedness Month.

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With that, Ms. Reigns.

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Thank you, Chair, Board.

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Thank you for having me.

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As always, I'm Robin Reigns, the Emergency Services Manager for Salona, oh yes.

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September is emergency preparedness month.

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Every year, I talk about it every day, so I can go on for a long time, but I won't.

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So let's see, what do we need to do for emergency preparedness month?

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When we prepare before a disaster, it minimizes what's needed for emergency response

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and it makes it better and easier for the community to recover after that emergency has passed.

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So all disasters are emergencies, but not all emergencies are disasters.

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We generally deal with disasters, but anything that is at a catastrophic level to the community

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is something that we would be involved in.

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So that's going to be your earthquakes, wildfires, floods, power outages.

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But then there's also human-caused instance, cyber security attacks on critical infrastructure,

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any kind of domestic, violent extremism, those kinds of events as well.

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We try and be prepared for as much as you can.

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The human cause or the only ones that can be prevented, natural are only ones that we can prepare for to the best of our ability.

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So you need to have your plan on what you're going to do.

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Preparedness starts with a plan.

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If you don't have a plan, you're not going to be ready.

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If you're not ready, you're going to need a lot more resources when it happens.

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So start your emergency plan now, make sure everyone in your family knows your emergency plan, and that they understand that that is also their emergency plan, and that you may or may not be there to enact that emergency plan. We're all here because we have jobs, if we have children or older family at home, they might have to enact that plan without you being there. So that's something that is important, that everybody know, understand, and actually practice implementing.

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So the other thing that is important to understand and that kind of goes into that planning aspect that we were talking about is that preparedness is a shared responsibility.

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It is not only the office of emergency services or your local law and fire department that is fully responsible for preparedness response and recovery here.

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If the community is ready, they can be a lot more effective in saving lives and properties.

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But if you're not ready, all of their resources go to protecting lives, and it's just, that's not the way you want to go.

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So make sure that you are doing everything within your power to prepare yourself and your family and your loved ones for a disaster before it happens.

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So that we have the resources to protect property and the environment as much as we can as well as protecting lives for

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for those that aren't able to get themselves out safely.

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So everybody has a role to play.

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How are you gonna find out about the disaster?

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We have alert Solano and Solano County.

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You need to be signed up for alert Solano.

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You can go to alertsano.com.

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If you are not signed up already, if you are signed up

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and you are like, I don't even remember my login,

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it means that you haven't logged in

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and a long time and you need to.

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Because you need to go in and regularly validate

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the information that's in there.

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Make sure your phone numbers are still right, that the order that you want to be notified

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is accurate.

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You can decide, is it going to email you first, text you first, call you first.

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Don't make that decision based on what you would want during your work life.

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Make that decision based on what you would want at home if you were sleeping.

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Meaning, if you choose to be emailed or texted first, if you're sleeping and that's not going

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to wake you up, it should probably be a phone call.

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So make sure that you're being conscious about what those decisions are and how you receive

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those alerts.

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If you set your phone on do not disturb at night and you have not saved this phone number

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that these calls come from in advance to come through during do not disturb, you will not

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be contacted.

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If you have opted out of emergency alerts because you got an amber alert once and you didn't

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like it because it was annoying, you will not get some emergency alerts.

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not all emergency alerts for that. That's a wireless emergency alert. It's a little bit different.

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Feel free to call me at any time if you would like to discuss further.

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There's also information about it on our website that you can look up as well.

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But there are lots of reasons why somebody may not receive a technology-based emergency alert.

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And a lot of those factors are on the end of the user that we cannot control.

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So once we send an alert out, it is on your provider to send that alert to you, which is why if your husband has AT&T and you have a rise in and he gets the alert and you don't or vice versa, it's on their provider to deliver that alert to you.

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So make sure that everybody in your home is signed up individually, not just one person, because not everyone may get the alert, but also not everyone may be home.

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The person that's home is the person that needs it.

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Your children should have those alerts, my daughter's 19.

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She's been signed up for Alert Solano for a long time, probably longer than most people.

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But she's been raised on disaster and just discussions, so she's special.

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But these are important things to understand that you are all each individual.

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You're not the one person that's the head of your household that's going to receive all the information and

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the plan and the kit and do all of the things.

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Everybody needs to be ready and everybody needs to be prepared.

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And every family has its own unique challenges that need to be thought through and

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discuss whether that be domesticated animals, large animals, livestock, elderly,

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people requiring medical devices and backup power.

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These are all things that need to be considered in your plan.

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And whether or not you need to shelter in place in your home or

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whether or not you need to evacuate from your home, because those needs are going to be different.

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So please understand what that looks like for your home and build that into your plan and into your kit

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So everyone should have an emergency kit. Mine is a backpack

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I take it everywhere with me because I am a disaster nerd

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But also because if I don't have it with me first off, it's not a go kit

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But secondly, I don't have it when I need it

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Natural disaster, human cause disaster can happen at any time. If I don't have my kit, there was no point in having one

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I wasn't ready

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I also have the things that I need in my home to shelter in place.

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Because my disaster kit, my backpack, although large and has lots of things in it,

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not enough to shelter in place in my home for three days, particularly just based on my water needs alone.

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So, make sure that you have what you need in order to shelter in place in your home for at least three days.

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But also have your emergency kit that includes your prescription glasses if you wear contacts.

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because at some point you're gonna want to take those out because whatever is

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going on in the environment or it's gonna irritate your eyes you're gonna put

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your glasses on you need your medications like the things that are life

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safety sustaining for you need to be in your kit so make sure you have a kit make

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sure everyone in your home has a kit including your animals my dog has a kit my

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cats have a kit I have an emergency go litter box just saying he pees in the

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create. I don't like it. I don't know. So we need a layer box. So be prepared for everyone

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in your home, including all your furry friends. You also need to know your evacuation zone

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because evacuation zones are largely going to be used during wildfire. Now, are we only

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going to put out an evacuation zone and say, hey, we're evacuating zone, give me a 1638.

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No, it will also say where that is, but if you're geographically challenged like I am

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and I'm a turn left at the 7-11 kind of person, not a head northbound on a whatever road,

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then when I see my zone number, I know that that includes me.

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I don't have to pick the geographical area on the map to see if my pinpoint is in the middle.

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If you know your zone number and your zone number shows up, hey, that's me, I should go.

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It just makes it faster.

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So, make sure you know your zone, put it somewhere that you are not going to lose it, put on your refrigerator.

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We do have magnets, feel free to come and stop by my office anytime. Like I said, we can talk forever.

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Mine, honestly, is on the, it's my door's metal, it's on my front door. That's my evacuation zone.

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Again, I'm a disaster nerd, but all people should be disaster nerds. Jenny made me really helpful notes to make sure I stay on track, but I've already gone.

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Preparedness doesn't have to be complicated.

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You need an emergency plan, you need your emergency kit, you need to talk to your neighbors.

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You cannot rely on technology as your only way of communication.

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The phone tree from the 50s, 60s, 70s, everything before we had the internet is honestly still the best way to get a hold of people.

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But make sure the information you're sharing is vetted, valid information from a trusted source.

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So, if you get the alert and your neighbor doesn't get the alert and then you notify

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your neighbor, guess what, that's a successful alert.

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An alerting system includes all the ways that people find out about stuff, whether or

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not that be on social media through the little ticker on the bottom of your TV, through a

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NOAA weather radio, or a text message, or you knocking on your neighbor's door, or having

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a family member call you, hey, did you get the alert?

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because again, I'm signed up for my grandma's house, my mother's house, my father's house, my sister lives in Napa.

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Like, if she doesn't validate that she's gotten that alert, I'm driving to her house because she lost her home in 2020 in Napa.

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So, we're all part of the system.

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Every person plays a role.

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So, make sure that you are also following important locations for you outside of just your home.

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Because there may be other reasons why you wouldn't get the alert that somebody else would

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like your cell phone tower is down because power is out.

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And maybe somebody can call you and say, hey, we got this alert.

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Make sure you get it.

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If you can't call someone, try and text them.

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Oftentimes, the text will come through when a phone call won't.

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Do not call 911 and it is asked here unless you have a life safety issue.

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I started as a 911 dispatcher.

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That's my soapbox.

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Talk to your neighbors, follow your local fire and emergency services on social media.

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A lot of them put out information on social media that is a trusted source that's considered

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bettered information, that is information you can share.

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I love the community pages because they have a lot of reach.

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I hate the community pages because a lot of times false information gets shared, bad information

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gets shared particularly in comments.

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If your source of information is from a Facebook post comment on a community post that is not

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that it or trusted information, unless it's for me because sometimes I post on those

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things trying to fix it, but in the disaster I'll be busy, I won't be doing that.

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,140
Anywho, so make sure you're following your emergency responders on social media.

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They often have multiple platforms and they will be shared across.

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00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:44,980
For sure follow Salona OES on Facebook, we do post information there because we are only

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00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:48,260
going to alert the people that need to take protective action.

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00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:51,520
If you have to evacuate, if you have to shelter in place, if you're getting an evacuation

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00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,060
We're not notifying your neighbor across the street who's mad because they didn't get an alert because there's a fire across the street.

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00:39:59,420 --> 00:40:02,440
They don't need to take protective action, we're not notifying them.

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00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120
That's best practice on public alert and warning.

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00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:06,640
How can you get that information?

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You can go on our Facebook page.

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00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:10,140
You can sign up for a pulse point.

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00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,420
You can do other things.

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00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:15,880
You can sign up for watch duty to get information about what's happening in your community.

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00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:17,400
You can also call your neighbor.

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00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400
Hey, what's, what's happening?

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00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:22,840
What did the alerts say and get information some other way?

478
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:23,740
Okay.

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00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,500
Encourage others to sign up for alerts.

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00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,540
My alerts on a soap box always lives with me.

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00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,740
You have to sign up for emergency alerts.

482
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:33,860
If you're not signed up for emergency alerts,

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00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:34,500
guess what?

484
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:36,360
You can't guarantee you're going to get alerted.

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00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:41,180
During the LNU fire, we had lots of people call in,

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00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:43,620
upset that they did not receive emergency alerts.

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00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:46,100
When we looked them up, they were not signed up.

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00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,700
So, you need to sign up.

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00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:56,300
We have some ability to force message people, but that's not guaranteed vetted information

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00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:59,940
that you've put in that belongs to you and you know is your information inaccurate.

491
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,840
Because we'll get calls from people in Tennessee because they had a vote phone when they used

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00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,860
to live in Benisha, and now they're mad because we told them about a tsunami.

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00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:09,560
Potential tsunami did not happen.

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00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,540
Anywho.

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00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:14,300
See, I told you, my trains way off the tracks.

496
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:18,960
And I've been talking a long time and keeps looking at me like are you going to wrap it up?

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00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
The new website is really great.

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00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,840
Our website is broken down under the OES Department as prepare, respond, recover.

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00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,220
So all of the resources that you need in order to get ready for a disaster, click on prepare.

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00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:42,440
Our primary disaster types have their own page like fire, flooding, or fire, summer, winter.

501
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:49,480
And then additional hazards, that's PSPS, that's power outage, that's, you know, your earthquakes and your drought and all that other stuff.

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00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:58,460
If you have trouble getting information, you have any questions at all, you call our office, we will talk to you and direct you in what you need.

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00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,960
If you need help signing up for alerts also, you can call and we can walk you through that process.

504
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,040
Please help your older relatives sign up, it is not complicated but it is for them.

505
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,860
So, thank you.

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00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:09,420
Be prepared.

507
00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:10,200
Have a plan.

508
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,760
Have a kid.

509
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,000
Sign up for emergency alerts.

510
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Call me anytime.

511
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:21,950
You have the resolution.

512
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:24,190
So, we've got to go down front and take a picture.

513
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:26,370
And believe it or not, that was kind of a medium range for her.

514
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:27,350
She can go way longer.

515
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:28,710
Just say it.

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00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:57,720
All

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00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:22,150
right.

518
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:23,830
Madam Clerk, item five, please.

519
00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:34,430
Receive a presentation from the Auditor Controller's Office

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00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:40,250
on the selection of Cindy C.C. Queen for Employee of the Month for September 2020.

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00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Good morning, Jeanine Harris, auditor controller.

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00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:59,380
I want to take this opportunity to thank the board for allowing us to honor CC today as

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00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:00,300
our employee of the month.

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00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,140
I'm excited to introduce CC, our payroll technician for the auditor controller's office.

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00:44:05,420 --> 00:44:10,420
She has been nominated by her peers as the employee of the month for September.

526
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:13,520
She's been with payroll for about four years.

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00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,100
She handles a wide variety of payroll tasks, including our payroll tax returns and all of

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00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:24,780
your W-2's. So, very hard work, and I think we all really appreciate all the hard

529
00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:29,340
work. She puts in to make sure it's all accurate. CC is hard working, professional,

530
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:33,340
and shows that she really cares when she comes to work every day. She is dedicated and

531
00:44:33,340 --> 00:44:37,920
always has a positive attitude. Some of the comments that were made about CC when she was

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00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,040
nominated, CC is very dependable and considerate to her fellow co-workers and gets the job

533
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,760
done under pressure. CC is always friendly, full of smiles, very helpful, and very

534
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,380
responsive even when she is busy during payroll weeks and my personal favorite

535
00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:59,720
CC is a payroll rock star so I would like to ask Debbie do a little her

536
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:32,860
Thank you for this opportunity to recognize our payroll rock star, apparently. So as Janine said, CC started with the county and the auditor payroll division as a 50% accounting technician smack in the middle of COVID-19. And it was a parent from the beginning that she possessed the qualities that her peers in the auditor's office have recognized this year that encourage them to nominate her as our employee of the month. Let me tell you a little bit about this.

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00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:36,880
a little bit about what she does in her capacity as payroll technician three.

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00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:42,440
As Jenny said, she processes all the bi-weekly tax payments and that includes all of our special districts,

539
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,180
shout out to the special districts and the W-2.

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00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,780
She's also as a payroll technician three, she responds to IntelliTime users,

541
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,900
supervisor department inquiries and updates and

542
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:58,220
corrects IntelliTime documents, our lovely time cards, prior peer period adjustments,

543
00:45:58,220 --> 00:46:02,920
Ms. Lee slips the whole gamut of time card maintenance.

544
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:06,120
She's also the primary for our retro pay processing.

545
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:10,380
And when the auditor payroll HR and

546
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:19,060
do it got together in 2024 to do a lift and shift of our people soft HR system from on premises to the cloud,

547
00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:22,460
her collaborative efforts with the system accountant payroll officer,

548
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
other payroll technicians and staff from HR and

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00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,020
do it helped ensure the success of the project.

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00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:33,800
CC is one of those persons that any employer would be proud to have on their staff.

551
00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:39,200
We and the auditor controller payroll division feel so lucky that she is working as part of our team.

552
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:47,600
She has proven herself time and time again to have an amazing capacity to learn and grow with a position taking on more responsibility every step of the way.

553
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:54,500
She is diligent, professional, and most importantly, cares about how her work affects our customers.

554
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:57,800
the employees of Salano County and our special districts.

555
00:46:58,180 --> 00:47:04,560
Any of which, who, if they interact with CC, will learn firsthand what an outstanding asset she is to the county.

556
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:06,420
Thank you.

557
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,980
Thank you for those kind words.

558
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:15,500
Good morning, everyone.

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00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,640
First, I would like to thank the board for establishing this program.

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00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,720
And to my amazing ACO family for nominating me.

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00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:27,460
This feat would not have been possible without the guidance of our payroll officer,

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00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:31,400
our WDU little and our Deputy Auditor Controller Ray Catefeng.

563
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:36,500
This team is truly an embodiment of our mission statement and principles,

564
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,280
who created a pillar of support by offering positivity and motivation in our workplace.

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00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:48,520
I am proud to say that I am part of such a hard working and dedicated group of individuals.

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00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,640
And a special thank you to my husband for being here today and to my family who's watching online.

567
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,560
I thank you for all the support outside of work so I can bring my best self to the office.

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00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:03,080
I became the person I am today because of all of you.

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00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:09,500
And finally, just a reminder that time cards are due Friday at noon, just for the upcoming

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00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:10,040
holiday.

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00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,060
Have an amazing holiday weekend, everyone.

572
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,600
Thank you.

573
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:22,960
Thank you.

574
00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:23,640
Absolutely.

575
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,780
Come on down and get a picture.

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00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,460
Everybody.

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00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,020
I love that.

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00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:09,300
All

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00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:39,360
right that brings us to items from the public and I do have several cards so let's see here we'll start off with

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00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,040
Letitia Guerrero.

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00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:54,430
Good morning, board.

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00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:58,990
I'll just read what I wrote so I don't have to go off track here.

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00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:06,710
But I have the opportunity and I'm blessed to be able to represent the IHSS workers here in Salano County at the negotiations table.

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00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:15,750
I wanted to share with you why it's imperative that the board really consider and take seriously the proposals before them from the Salano County IHSS providers.

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00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:21,610
We know our providers improve the quality of care by keeping people in their own homes where they feel safe and

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00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:26,090
feel some dignity, allowing them to be in their own home that they probably work so hard for.

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00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:32,230
Higher wages are essential to retaining skilled and experienced IHSS workers in Solano County,

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00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:35,490
which directly impacts the quality of life for the clients that they serve.

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00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:38,970
Increased wages will prevent turnover.

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00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:43,770
We know low wages lead to high turnover and unused hours, which is disruptive and

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00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:47,610
and unsettling for seniors and people with disabilities who rely on consistent quality of care.

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00:50:48,930 --> 00:50:53,310
With California's aging population, the demand for IHSS providers is steadily increasing.

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00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:59,370
Fair wages are necessary to attract new workers, not to mention the cost of living and worker property.

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00:51:00,130 --> 00:51:02,950
The current IHSS wage is not a livable wage in Solano County.

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00:51:03,550 --> 00:51:10,330
Forcing many providers who rely on public assistance themselves are having multiple jobs, where they are not spending any time with their family or their children.

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00:51:11,330 --> 00:51:15,250
Raising wages would reduce the need for public aid and allow caregivers to live with dignity.

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00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:26,410
The living wage gap, the MIT living wage calculator reports that a single adult in Solano County needs to earn 28-22 per hour to cover basic living expenses.

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00:51:27,070 --> 00:51:35,530
The current IHSS wage is 1770 per hour, it is far below the standard, and these providers are not asking for $28 an hour, much less actually.

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00:51:36,250 --> 00:51:42,590
Raising wages would allow IHSS workers to spend more in the local economy, which would in turn generate more tax revenue for the county.

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00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:48,550
Higher wages increase the purchasing power of a large group of local workers providing a measurable return on the investment.

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00:51:48,910 --> 00:51:53,610
Not to mention the county shares much less than what's being asked due to the matching funds from the federal and the state.

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00:51:54,590 --> 00:52:00,510
Solano County can reduce long-term healthcare costs investing in IHSS workers that are proactive and cost-effective approach to healthcare.

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00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:05,190
Providing quality in-home care is much cheaper for the county and the state than the alternative.

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00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:14,410
You can avoid costly institutions, investing in home care, keeping seniors and people with disabilities at a more expensive institutions like nursing homes and hospitals.

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00:52:15,350 --> 00:52:17,530
IHSS workers reduce preventable emergencies.

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00:52:19,550 --> 00:52:24,210
Experience caregivers are better able to prevent health care crisis by providing consistent proactive care.

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00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:29,270
This helps avoid expensive emergency room visits and hospital stays, saving taxpayers money.

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00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:34,110
The IHSS workforce is primarily composed of women and people of color.

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00:52:34,510 --> 00:52:38,330
The long-term underpayment of these essential workers is an equity issue that needs to

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00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:38,730
be addressed.

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00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:42,970
Salano County has an opportunity to be a part of ending historical inequities.

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00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:47,930
IHSS workers have historically been excluded from labor protections enjoyed by other American

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00:52:47,930 --> 00:52:48,270
workers.

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00:52:48,850 --> 00:52:53,550
Higher wages can begin to rectify the systemic underinvestment and promote fairer labor

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00:52:53,550 --> 00:52:53,970
standards.

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00:52:54,490 --> 00:53:00,090
There is an urgent need for a raise for your providers that are your constituents in your community.

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00:53:00,490 --> 00:53:05,050
Your people standing unity, we need you to stand in unity with the backbone of your community.

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00:53:05,230 --> 00:53:09,790
Doing the job that no one wants to do, especially for the pay, we anticipate a real response to a real issue.

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00:53:09,930 --> 00:53:11,510
Let's get this contract negotiated quickly.

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00:53:11,710 --> 00:53:12,010
Thank you.

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00:53:12,930 --> 00:53:13,550
Thank you.

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00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:19,420
Lupe Guterres.

623
00:53:34,220 --> 00:53:36,280
Good morning chair and members of the board.

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00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:40,000
My name is Lupe Guterres and I also represent the SE logo.

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00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,060
I am going to speak out of my heart.

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00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:47,020
I am an ITSS provider for a 91-year-old baby.

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00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:48,200
She is my mother-in-law.

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00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,600
I'm sorry, this is very, very, very important to all of us.

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,840
My mother-in-law has had three trips to the hospital.

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00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,460
She has many hours that are unused.

631
00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:05,180
They are unused because I cannot be there all those hours.

632
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:06,860
I need to get another job.

633
00:54:06,860 --> 00:54:09,940
I actually have two more jobs so that I can meet my rent.

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00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:13,440
I wish that I could be there all those hours.

635
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:20,440
One of the trips that she had was because she fell, she has dementia, she's legally blind.

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00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:25,580
She thinks that she can still go outside and walk, and unfortunately, no one was there to

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00:54:25,580 --> 00:54:27,500
take care of her, so she ended up in the hospital.

638
00:54:28,620 --> 00:54:30,340
She also had fluid in her lungs.

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00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:35,740
She forgets that she has to drink water, no one is there to help her and tell her, hey,

640
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:45,340
you got to keep drinking water. She also had vertigo going on. We came home when we found her

641
00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:50,600
on the floor. Unfortunately, these hours go on use because I cannot find somebody that go

642
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:56,040
over there and help me with those hours because they'd rather work at Chipotle because they get paid

643
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:03,000
more money there. My mother also has dementia. My daughter also cares for her and my daughter also has

644
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:09,000
to go out and get another job so that she can also feed her kids. So this is really important

645
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:15,420
to me personally because of my family. But I also see other members that have all these

646
00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:22,780
unused hours. And there's not enough providers for us to go and help all these people, children,

647
00:55:23,620 --> 00:55:32,300
parents. I myself, if one day goes out, has a car accident and I'm unable to work and I need the

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00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:37,740
care. Is there going to be someone there to help me? I'm very hard working. I'm very

649
00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:42,980
loving and I would just like to appeal to you guys that this is a beautiful job. It's

650
00:55:42,980 --> 00:55:47,160
not because she's my mother or because she's my mother-in-law. It's because I really love

651
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:54,120
the job that I do and I wish I could be there for them and make, you know, things meet in

652
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,360
my home so that I can help them with theirs. Thank you.

653
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:57,400
So,

654
00:56:02,810 --> 00:56:06,330
thank you, Daphne Dustin.

655
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,500
Good morning Chair and our dear board of supervisors here in Solano County.

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00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:31,120
I'm Daphne Dunstan, a proud member leader of SAU 2015, which is our caregiver, Sinyan.

657
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:38,140
I am an IHSS provider of Solano County for almost 10 years.

658
00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:42,940
caring for my two special need boys who got autism.

659
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,300
I'm here to tell the board that care counts in our community.

660
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:59,160
We are essential workers and we demand fair contract and real investment in home care.

661
00:57:00,260 --> 00:57:04,940
We demand quality wages for quality home care.

662
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:17,400
No, IHSS wages put more strain to our families and so we need your help.

663
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,800
Board of Supervisors, it's in your hands.

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00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:24,800
Please protect home care and prioritize caregivers.

665
00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:26,120
Thank you.

666
00:57:31,780 --> 00:57:33,180
I picked up his Joe Barely.

667
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,720
Good morning board members.

668
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:57,980
I come here once again to thank you for not having sold out to California forever, yet.

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00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:04,800
I say that because I realize just how insidious those people are, and I expect one of these

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00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:12,440
days to pick up the newspaper and be disappointed at least one of you, but that's just because

671
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,800
I'm a realist.

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00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:22,600
One of the things I've noted, first of all, this paper that I have with me, those of you

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:28,240
that don't know, this is compiled, this is done by Solano Together, which is the citizens

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,560
group that opposes California forever.

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,700
And the information on here is compiled from the county staff report, thank you county staff,

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:42,240
that was the whole reason that California forever pulled their initiative from the ballot

677
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:49,920
last year, because all of the amounts of money that California forever will cost Solano

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:55,700
County and the cities therein, they haven't been able to refute this, they just want this

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00:58:55,700 --> 00:59:02,320
to die. Because everything, the majority of the cost of building out California forever

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00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:11,260
is going to be borne by county taxpayers. Furthermore, I note that in the Saturday edition of

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00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:17,840
the Vacuvel reporter, there's this big article about, oh,

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00:59:17,980 --> 00:59:19,820
California forever is foundry.

683
00:59:20,460 --> 00:59:25,020
Well, the foundry was supposed to be a high tech manufacturing

684
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:31,640
center, but the artist's rendition, if you look at it, seems

685
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,560
to be more like a rolling steel mill for steel plate.

686
00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:38,820
I know this because I grew up around that stuff.

687
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:45,360
and so their artist bringdition didn't quite catch up to what their so-called

688
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:52,440
intentions are which brings us to the point of just how fantastical California

689
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:58,580
forever's endless promises are. Of course, if I hire some company to do a

690
00:59:58,580 --> 00:59:59,800
report on

691
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,440
What I intend to build, of course, are going to tell us everything that we want to hear, right? One other thing I note is that California forever claims that they're going to build. Now, I've seen this in the paper several times. They claim 5,000 gigawatts of battery storage power that they intend to build. Well, 5,000 gigawatts would be equal to, like, over 3,000

692
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,340
mass landing size battery operated storage plants which would be an

693
01:00:34,340 --> 01:00:39,880
impossibility that this is just how insane California forever is while promises

694
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,420
are.

695
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Alicia Gutierrez.

696
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,700
Good morning chair members of the board. Thank you so

697
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:09,080
much for having us and hearing us today. This is such an important topic. I am here

698
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:15,400
to represent IHSS in our local union as many others here as well. I am an IHSS

699
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:22,960
provide myself as well as I've worked with the regional center system serving families with special needs for almost 24 years now.

700
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:29,860
I am here to ask you to please look at increasing the wages for our IHSS workers.

701
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,340
Right now Solano County is actually in a health crisis.

702
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:44,040
In the past years you've heard from others alone, there have gone over 286,000 unused IHSS hours that were approved for clients that

703
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,180
That went completely unused.

704
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:52,200
These were hours that doctors and social workers said that people must have in order to safely remain in their homes.

705
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,080
And yet they went unfulfilled.

706
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:58,760
The reason is simple, caregivers cannot afford to work at the current wages.

707
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,080
Here's another reason to act.

708
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:03,880
IHSS actually saves the county money.

709
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:08,240
Salano County pays about 15 to 16% of the program costs.

710
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760
The state and federal government cover the rest.

711
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,060
by paying workers more in ensuring the hours get filled,

712
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520
you will prevent far more extensive outcomes

713
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,560
that would be more expensive than what we're currently paying.

714
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:22,300
That would result in fewer emergency room visits,

715
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,500
fewer hospitalizations, reduced medication usage,

716
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,700
less taxing on our mental health system here

717
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:31,540
because patients that are in these care homes

718
01:02:31,540 --> 01:02:34,640
typically suffer from a lot of other mental health issues

719
01:02:35,260 --> 01:02:37,520
and tax our system in that area as well,

720
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,700
which is very under-circuit at this point.

721
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,260
We also need to look at the program as a whole.

722
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:51,300
It is so imperative to pay a livable wage for these workers.

723
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,940
Loop Bay is actually my sister-in-law, and that's my mother, and

724
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:55,260
while she was speaking of as well.

725
01:02:55,940 --> 01:03:00,700
And we would love to provide more care, but the wages are just not enough to make that happen.

726
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,400
So I implore you to please look at that.

727
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,420
There's the bottom line here.

728
01:03:05,420 --> 01:03:07,120
We need to be fiscally responsible.

729
01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:13,180
We all understand that, but I am telling you fiscal responsibility is funding this program.

730
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,500
First hand, I can tell you, working with my regional center clients watching patients

731
01:03:18,500 --> 01:03:22,700
that can't get care going into homes costs us more money.

732
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,000
So it is fiscally responsible, and we need to look at those numbers.

733
01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:31,360
So I'd also like to tell you, why does this matter to you?

734
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:44,700
This matters to every single one of you because you can sit here today as members of our board and hear me, but at any minute, walking out of this room, any one of us could face a health crisis.

735
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,200
This could be us in this situation.

736
01:03:47,740 --> 01:03:53,280
I currently care for my uncle who is diagnosed with small cell lung cancer that is now spread to his brain.

737
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:58,660
We had to move him into our home because we couldn't find anybody to care for him in his own home.

738
01:03:58,780 --> 01:04:00,720
He suffers from major depression.

739
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,820
He's lost all of his independence.

740
01:04:03,620 --> 01:04:04,800
I have a question for you.

741
01:04:05,020 --> 01:04:11,280
This is probably quite a poignant question and it might be a little offensive, but

742
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,280
who would you want caring and wiping and taking care of your most vulnerable parts?

743
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,460
Let alone, what if this is your child?

744
01:04:18,620 --> 01:04:20,880
Do you want somebody else making that decision for you?

745
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,080
or do you want to make that decision for yourself?

746
01:04:23,500 --> 01:04:24,820
This is a dignity issue.

747
01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:28,360
We deserve to have our patients and our family members cared for.

748
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,440
This was me in 2020.

749
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:32,360
I almost died.

750
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:34,760
I was resuscitated three times I had COVID.

751
01:04:35,140 --> 01:04:36,400
I needed this care.

752
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,620
So I implore and I ask you guys, please,

753
01:04:38,780 --> 01:04:40,440
when you're going to these negotiating tables,

754
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:44,500
think of this as a personal stake that you have in this matter.

755
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,520
And this is in your hands and you can make a difference.

756
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:47,060
Thank you.

757
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:47,640
Thank you.

758
01:04:54,210 --> 01:04:54,990
Anthony Mitchell.

759
01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:55,950
Good

760
01:05:04,050 --> 01:05:09,170
morning, Ward Council, thank you for this opportunity to approach the bench today and speak to you all.

761
01:05:09,590 --> 01:05:17,790
My name is Anthony Mitchell and I represent a firm which is a Department of Energy Recognizing Credential Energy Services Company.

762
01:05:18,430 --> 01:05:24,570
We also work with the trade, we are trade professionals for the Public Utility Commission through Pacific Gas Electric Company.

763
01:05:25,070 --> 01:05:31,690
And I'm here today just to talk about the removal of the federal funds that are affecting all municipalities throughout the state of California.

764
01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:52,530
My firm, we've met with the sustainability and public works department of the county, and we do represent other funds that are available to the county, for instance, for the EV, electrical vehicle infrastructure upgrades, energy reduction throughout the county, and they've actually outlawed all the fluorescent lighting basically throughout the west of the United States.

765
01:05:53,050 --> 01:05:59,110
I'm here today because as these financial pressures have been put on municipalities,

766
01:05:59,650 --> 01:06:03,570
many of the other cities and entities that we've been working with have said we don't have the funds,

767
01:06:03,570 --> 01:06:08,550
we don't have the budget, we don't have the manpower to help address these areas that we are now having to carry these burdens.

768
01:06:09,350 --> 01:06:13,810
So I'm here today to represent a fund that is available for renewable energy,

769
01:06:14,170 --> 01:06:17,550
hydrogen power, as the gentleman that just came up and talked about batteries and what have you.

770
01:06:17,550 --> 01:06:23,710
There's alternative technologies that are available to the county, and there's well over

771
01:06:23,710 --> 01:06:28,930
about $4 million per premise that we can actually capture for the county through a program

772
01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:31,430
that's funded through a Pacific Gas Electric Company.

773
01:06:32,490 --> 01:06:35,410
There's no money out of pocket to the county.

774
01:06:35,790 --> 01:06:40,150
The county pays about 10% of every bill that you pay into this fund that we actually get

775
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:44,030
to secure and work with on the county for no money out of pocket and no budget impact.

776
01:06:44,030 --> 01:06:49,250
So I'm here today just to one educate you and two to ask for an information gathering session with

777
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:51,150
yourselves and those

778
01:06:52,250 --> 01:06:55,210
Directors and managers that are involved in these areas for the county

779
01:06:56,150 --> 01:07:00,610
Because of the administration and the big beautiful bill a lot of these

780
01:07:00,610 --> 01:07:05,310
Deadlines are coming towards the middle of next year and through

781
01:07:06,290 --> 01:07:11,550
2027 so we just wanted to one educate you guys let you know and become aware of what's available to you

782
01:07:12,030 --> 01:07:18,430
Two, let you know that there is help and air support that is available to help carry some of these financial burdens that you guys are getting hit with.

783
01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:21,850
And two, just see what we can do to get started to help you guys take advantage of what's available.

784
01:07:22,290 --> 01:07:23,190
Thank you so much today.

785
01:07:29,850 --> 01:07:32,030
Next up is Maximina Del Rio.

786
01:07:44,110 --> 01:07:45,410
Good morning, Boer.

787
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:46,990
My name is Maximina Del Rio.

788
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:50,510
I have been home care worker since 90s.

789
01:07:51,030 --> 01:07:55,750
For nearly 30 years, I have provided professional and care for people in a community through

790
01:07:55,750 --> 01:08:00,230
with a variety of programs including IHSS for the past two and a half years.

791
01:08:01,130 --> 01:08:06,650
The work of my fellow IHSS workers and I do help ensure that all adults and

792
01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:12,990
people with disability can live healthy, dignified lives right here in Solano County.

793
01:08:13,530 --> 01:08:18,010
Right now, I care for my friend who has mobility and mental health issues.

794
01:08:18,490 --> 01:08:22,910
I cook for her and cling for her, run errands with her and

795
01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:28,490
and support her with everything that needs to do to stay healthy and independent.

796
01:08:29,330 --> 01:08:32,730
I do this work because I care about my neighbors and our community.

797
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:38,630
And over the past three decades, I have seen how important home care is for our community.

798
01:08:39,230 --> 01:08:45,910
Despite the vital role my play, our wages don't reflect the value of our work.

799
01:08:46,350 --> 01:08:51,930
17, 17 hours is nowhere near enough to provide for ourselves and our family in Solano County.

800
01:08:51,930 --> 01:09:01,110
Right now I live with my daughter, a adult daughter and a granddaughter because it's the only way we both can assure we keep a roof over our heads and food on our tables.

801
01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:11,190
I lived in my house for nearly 50 years and I haven't been able to keep up the need maintenance like repairs roof because of the new low wages.

802
01:09:11,950 --> 01:09:19,190
With the high wages, I will be able to complete the needed repair and ensure my home is safety and healthy for my granddaughter and myself also.

803
01:09:19,190 --> 01:09:26,150
Our work is critical to health and safety and our community and need it to be compensated as such.

804
01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:31,070
I urge you to raise wages for our workers and our new next union contract.

805
01:09:31,390 --> 01:09:32,190
Thank you very much.

806
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:32,870
Thank you.

807
01:09:37,190 --> 01:09:38,290
Michelle Chavez.

808
01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:50,360
Good morning everyone.

809
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000
I'm Michelle Chavez, Susan City.

810
01:09:53,620 --> 01:10:01,220
I just wanted to give a huge shout out and share my deep appreciation to Supervisor Wanda Williams.

811
01:10:01,220 --> 01:10:08,460
and also Dishan, Executive Director of Capsulano, JPA.

812
01:10:09,220 --> 01:10:13,020
We went on a, excuse me, right along in Sussune City,

813
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,440
and we were able to go over the different encampments in Sussune,

814
01:10:17,740 --> 01:10:22,200
and so it was very beneficial for all of us to do that right along.

815
01:10:22,580 --> 01:10:26,440
I also wanted to inform and share with the board

816
01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:33,960
that as a volunteer for the Sussune clean team that we came upon a group of

817
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:39,020
individuals that are camping amongst the trucks that are parked along the

818
01:10:39,020 --> 01:10:45,640
fence line of the post office. And this is a really busy like thoroughfare with

819
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:52,280
vehicles that is behind the Sunset Shopping Center. So my concern is that these

820
01:10:52,280 --> 01:11:04,640
these individuals could either have a mental health crisis, not be aware, things going on, and they come from behind these tracks and they might possibly be hit by cars.

821
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,740
So I just wanted to inform you and share that with you.

822
01:11:07,940 --> 01:11:17,020
I've also spoken with our mayor yesterday, but I also wanted to inform the board and ask for your positive thoughts and prayers for

823
01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:19,000
Thank you very much.

824
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,700
Next up is Henry Cohen.

825
01:11:36,350 --> 01:11:37,050
Hello, Ford.

826
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:38,550
My name is Henry Cohen.

827
01:11:38,690 --> 01:11:41,630
I'm the HSS Director with Salona County.

828
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:46,370
I appreciate the Board of Supervisors for letting me introduce Kelly Curtis.

829
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:48,650
She's our new assistant director for HSS.

830
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:53,030
I had emailed you all about it and I added it in our newsletter.

831
01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:54,730
But I wanted you to see her in person.

832
01:11:56,010 --> 01:12:00,290
Kelly is, she was formally our employment eligibility services.

833
01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:02,570
Services Division Deputy Director,

834
01:12:03,130 --> 01:12:05,830
and so she comes with years of experience managing

835
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:08,150
the CalWORKS or TANF program,

836
01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:10,810
well for the work, CalFresh or food stamps,

837
01:12:11,330 --> 01:12:13,850
and medical eligibility, general assistance

838
01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:16,450
and various housing programs.

839
01:12:16,690 --> 01:12:17,730
So she has a wealth of knowledge,

840
01:12:17,770 --> 01:12:19,190
especially right now on the climate

841
01:12:19,190 --> 01:12:22,370
that we have around medical eligibility concerns,

842
01:12:22,670 --> 01:12:26,150
and so she comes at the right time to support our division,

843
01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:27,790
and so we're very excited.

844
01:12:27,790 --> 01:12:33,410
I'm also, I wanted to share with folks that Kelly started as an EBS worker and eligibility

845
01:12:33,410 --> 01:12:39,170
worker in Solano County, so she grew up through the ranks and has been here supporting

846
01:12:39,170 --> 01:12:42,490
our community for some time, so I don't know if you want to share anything.

847
01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:44,590
Good morning.

848
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:50,930
I just want to, first of all, thank Solano County for offering such a great career opportunity

849
01:12:50,930 --> 01:12:51,370
here.

850
01:12:51,930 --> 01:12:56,270
As Emily mentioned, I made a career change in 2004 and started as an eligibility worker.

851
01:12:57,130 --> 01:13:04,630
And I am just both honored and excited to be serving the community and our staff and the board and my new role.

852
01:13:04,830 --> 01:13:05,790
So thank you very much.

853
01:13:06,510 --> 01:13:07,210
Thank you.

854
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:17,230
All right, last card of the day is Robin Reigns, three minutes, Robin.

855
01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:21,470
No pressure.

856
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:30,420
Okay, I'm here because I don't know that this is going to be posted in the paper.

857
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,720
But my grandmother, Jean Retledge, passed away on August 1st.

858
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,840
and she has been in the community for decades

859
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,520
and has a lot of, she's been around for a long time

860
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,440
and there may be people that knew her

861
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:45,660
and I wanted to make sure that people were aware.

862
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,940
She was born in 1931 in Colorado.

863
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,620
She died at 93 years old her.

864
01:13:50,780 --> 01:13:52,500
We just had her services this past weekend

865
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,720
but she worked at Mr. Reds.

866
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,920
She was a waitress, her whole life and career.

867
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,220
So she worked at Mr. Reds, Rens

868
01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:01,340
and she went to Baker Square where she retired

869
01:14:01,340 --> 01:14:03,900
and then she decided that she didn't want to be retired

870
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:10,920
And then she waitress set the heritage house cafe into her 80s with my mom, who also worked there for a long time.

871
01:14:11,220 --> 01:14:14,540
She was also everyone's Avon lady, so she might have been your Avon lady.

872
01:14:14,980 --> 01:14:19,980
If you ever went into any of those restaurants and saw an Avon book, you probably got something from her.

873
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:25,560
Or play Vaca Valley Bingo Wednesday mornings or Sundays or Friday nights or

874
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,320
any of the numerous days that they used to go and play Bingo.

875
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,360
There were some of her friends that came up the other Sunday and said,

876
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,280
I'm playing Bingo with your grandma for 30 years.

877
01:14:37,460 --> 01:14:40,180
So she's just, she's an amazing lady,

878
01:14:40,340 --> 01:14:42,260
and I just want to make sure that everybody

879
01:14:42,260 --> 01:14:44,220
who potentially knew her had an opportunity

880
01:14:44,220 --> 01:14:45,300
to know that she had passed.

881
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,960
It's really amazing when your youngest great-grandchild

882
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,900
is 16, and they've had an opportunity to grow up

883
01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:54,600
with her more as a grandma than a great-grandma,

884
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,000
and she actually had an opportunity

885
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,800
to meet her great-great-grandchildren.

886
01:14:58,340 --> 01:14:59,800
So, amazing life lived.

887
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,080
And lost. Thanks. Thank you for sharing her memory with us.

888
01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:23,220
All right, that brings us to the end of public comment, and we move to additions or deletions from the. Yes, Mr. Chairman, one change. We are recommending that item nine on the consent calendar be pulled, and we'll reschedule that for September 9th.

889
01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:35,130
All right, with that, I'd be looking for motion on approval of the agenda.

890
01:15:35,130 --> 01:15:35,950
I

891
01:15:38,510 --> 01:15:40,670
move that we approve the agenda as amended.

892
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:41,730
Thank you.

893
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:42,750
The motion.

894
01:15:42,930 --> 01:15:43,130
Second.

895
01:15:53,220 --> 01:15:54,480
Soldered by vote of 5-0.

896
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,200
All right.

897
01:15:56,420 --> 01:15:56,740
Thank you.

898
01:15:56,980 --> 01:16:00,460
I do not have any public comment on the consent calendar.

899
01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:08,080
Do I have any member of the board who would want to pull any item on consent or would like to ask questions on any item on consent?

900
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:10,380
I just want to make a statement.

901
01:16:10,660 --> 01:16:11,500
Yes, ma'am.

902
01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:25,870
I'm just making a statement on item number 21 for the Macerville Fire Protection District that authorized the interim is a director to approve a $120,000 purchase.

903
01:16:26,190 --> 01:16:26,590
Personal.

904
01:16:27,370 --> 01:16:28,210
We're going to do that one.

905
01:16:28,590 --> 01:16:32,010
We're going to do that separate as the board of the fire district.

906
01:16:32,290 --> 01:16:32,650
That's another thing.

907
01:16:33,090 --> 01:16:34,970
That's why I separated like this.

908
01:16:35,070 --> 01:16:35,610
Yes, ma'am.

909
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:36,830
Okay, well I got to wait.

910
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:37,490
Yes, ma'am.

911
01:16:37,690 --> 01:16:40,510
All right, I don't have any more questions or comments at this time.

912
01:16:40,730 --> 01:16:41,070
Okay.

913
01:16:41,070 --> 01:16:42,590
I would send my request.

914
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:46,350
Okay, then I'd be looking for a motion on that consent calendar.

915
01:16:46,570 --> 01:16:46,890
I'll move.

916
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,120
Second on consent.

917
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:55,130
All right.

918
01:16:55,290 --> 01:16:56,810
So ordered by the vet if I'm there.

919
01:16:58,430 --> 01:17:01,080
Right page here.

920
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,860
All right, I'm going to temporarily adjourn the Board of the Salonant County Supervisors,

921
01:17:11,140 --> 01:17:16,800
and I will convene us as the Board of the Vacable Fire Protection District.

922
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,200
And we will be moving to the consent calendar for that.

923
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:27,800
I don't have any speaker cards from the public on consent as the board of the fire district.

924
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:33,200
But I apparently have a question or statement from one of the board members on that item.

925
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:38,820
Okay, well thank you Chair and thank you for its opportunity.

926
01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:49,220
I just wanted to make I realize that when we approved their budget originally that we did not.

927
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:58,720
I include PPE and coming from Susoon City and have watched a fire department transition.

928
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:06,060
It's important that we make sure that there's no hold-ups for PPE going forward.

929
01:18:06,220 --> 01:18:19,860
I know it wasn't oversight, but if we can make sure that our interim district administrator has the ability to prove things expeditiously.

930
01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:26,190
especially when we're talking about their protection,

931
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:30,090
you know, their personal protection equipment is really important.

932
01:18:30,830 --> 01:18:34,350
And so that's the only thing I wanted to say and refer to that.

933
01:18:34,690 --> 01:18:39,490
I want to make sure our interim chief has the capability to do the work.

934
01:18:40,110 --> 01:18:48,230
That needs to be done to keep everyone under his leadership protected.

935
01:18:48,770 --> 01:18:50,370
And that's what I just wanted to add.

936
01:18:50,370 --> 01:18:51,410
Thank you very much.

937
01:18:52,030 --> 01:18:54,450
All right, is there any other board comments?

938
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:58,490
No, then I'd be looking for a motion on consent on this item.

939
01:18:58,670 --> 01:18:59,170
So moved.

940
01:19:14,420 --> 01:19:16,020
I thought it's ordered by a vote of five, sir.

941
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:25,000
All right, with that, I will adjourn us as the back of the fire protection district and reconvene us as the Solano County Board of Supervisors.

942
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:32,080
And that brings us to our regular calendar and Madam Clerk, item 22.

943
01:19:34,810 --> 01:19:38,910
Conduct the quarterly meeting of the East Valeo Fire Protection District Board of Directors.

944
01:19:58,010 --> 01:20:03,910
Good morning Chair, members of the Board, Nancy Nelson, senior management analyst with the county administrator's office.

945
01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:09,030
Here to introduce interim chief Gonzales with the Valeo Fire Departments.

946
01:20:10,250 --> 01:20:11,690
Good morning Chair, board members.

947
01:20:12,110 --> 01:20:16,390
Arthur Gonzales, interim fire chief, the Valeo Fire Department overseeing the East Valeo Fire Protection District.

948
01:20:17,370 --> 01:20:22,370
Here to give a short presentation today on the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2425.

949
01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:24,690
and calls for service in the Eastville Fire Protection District.

950
01:20:25,610 --> 01:20:29,590
During that quarter, we responded to 119 total calls,

951
01:20:30,410 --> 01:20:34,490
81 of which were EMS-related calls, 38 were fire-related calls.

952
01:20:35,930 --> 01:20:37,830
In that time, there was two planned reviews.

953
01:20:38,810 --> 01:20:41,510
One was a new construction of a single family dwelling

954
01:20:41,510 --> 01:20:46,830
at 312 Gilcrest, and one was an ADU conversion at 1104 Fulton.

955
01:20:48,030 --> 01:20:50,370
There was also two read-abatement complaints

956
01:20:50,370 --> 01:20:52,290
or issues brought to us.

957
01:20:52,890 --> 01:20:55,430
One was a vacant lot at 1197 Benesha Road

958
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:57,070
that has since been abated by the owner.

959
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:59,430
The other one is the Carcunus Cemetery

960
01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:01,530
on Benesha Road adjacent to Sedlot.

961
01:21:02,190 --> 01:21:04,190
That property is owned by the city of Vallejo

962
01:21:04,190 --> 01:21:05,830
and it's on the list through our public works

963
01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:06,790
to be abated currently.

964
01:21:08,930 --> 01:21:10,450
The Vallejo Fire Department's primary mission

965
01:21:10,450 --> 01:21:12,330
is to safely protect the lives and property

966
01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:13,570
of our citizens and residents

967
01:21:13,570 --> 01:21:15,410
of the East Vallejo Fire Protection District.

968
01:21:15,630 --> 01:21:18,070
We value customer service as the foundation

969
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:19,830
of our organization and we thank you

970
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:20,850
for letting us serve the district.

971
01:21:21,550 --> 01:21:23,130
I'm not taking any questions you may have.

972
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:26,880
I don't see any questions, Chief.

973
01:21:27,620 --> 01:21:28,240
Oh yes, I do.

974
01:21:30,340 --> 01:21:33,080
Should look down, Supervisor Brown.

975
01:21:33,860 --> 01:21:36,960
When the cemetery gets weeded,

976
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,580
could you just send an email through Nancy

977
01:21:40,580 --> 01:21:43,200
and so that I keep track of that?

978
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:45,760
So when I get emails, I can respond back.

979
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:46,500
Absolutely.

980
01:21:46,740 --> 01:21:47,780
That would be great, thanks.

981
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:49,820
Supervisor Williams.

982
01:21:49,820 --> 01:21:50,560
I

983
01:21:53,790 --> 01:22:07,030
wanted to ask a question, so when I've never, and maybe because I need to understand also our role as the Board of Directors for your department district,

984
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:16,250
how do you order your PPEs to those come for us to approve, and how does that work for you?

985
01:22:16,250 --> 01:22:18,750
Our request for PPE comes through our City Council.

986
01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:24,810
So any funds that I spend on personal protective equipment from my staff is funded through the City of the Land.

987
01:22:25,050 --> 01:22:25,990
The City of the Land, yes.

988
01:22:26,170 --> 01:22:34,450
Okay, I just was wondering why I never see your request for PPEs or any those type of need, but it goes through the city.

989
01:22:34,770 --> 01:22:35,530
All right, it makes sense.

990
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:37,410
That was all I wanted to know.

991
01:22:37,610 --> 01:22:37,990
Thank you.

992
01:22:38,130 --> 01:22:38,450
You're welcome.

993
01:22:38,730 --> 01:22:39,930
All right, thank you.

994
01:22:40,110 --> 01:22:40,390
Thank you.

995
01:22:49,450 --> 01:22:51,910
All right, Madam Clerk, that brings us Madam 23, ma'am, please.

996
01:22:55,410 --> 01:23:08,310
received a presentation on potential social safety net program impacts, resulting from HR1 signed July 4th, 2025 and the fiscal year 2526 California State Budget.

997
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,880
Morning, Debbie Maughan, Assistant County Administrator, and with me is.

998
01:23:19,220 --> 01:23:21,320
Kelly Curtis, this is the Director of Health and Social Services.

999
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:22,100
Okay,

1000
01:23:32,690 --> 01:23:37,930
so today, many of you have asked for us to come for the CAO's office to come back

1001
01:23:37,930 --> 01:23:42,770
with an update on some of the impacts related to federal actions.

1002
01:23:43,650 --> 01:23:50,950
So although the slide is entitled Safety Net Program Impacts, I suspect that you may

1003
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:54,010
experience some frustration today as we go through these.

1004
01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:59,910
And the reason for that is we're really trying to assess potential impacts at this point.

1005
01:24:00,670 --> 01:24:07,890
There have been some changes that have been made, but we are still missing federal and state guidance.

1006
01:24:08,670 --> 01:24:11,590
We are missing the state's response to federal guidance.

1007
01:24:12,010 --> 01:24:16,170
And so a lot of what we're going to talk today about today are program changes.

1008
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:25,150
But our guesswork is really close to guesswork on what we think the actual capacity and

1009
01:24:25,150 --> 01:24:29,210
physical impacts and service impacts to constituents might be.

1010
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,460
Okay, so just a quick overview.

1011
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:45,200
Today we're going to primarily focus on HR1, which was House of Representatives Bill number one that passed on July 4th at the federal level.

1012
01:24:45,740 --> 01:24:52,620
And also a little bit about the California State Budget because the California State Budget also had some program impacts in it.

1013
01:24:53,740 --> 01:25:00,100
So just a quick overview of HR1, it included a number of tax provisions, additional funding

1014
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:05,060
for immigration and border enforcement, reductions in the eliminations in a whole slew of tax

1015
01:25:05,060 --> 01:25:09,240
credit programs, and programs related to clean energy.

1016
01:25:09,460 --> 01:25:10,860
I heard that come up a bit of public comment.

1017
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,380
And there are significant changes in funding reductions for social safety net programs.

1018
01:25:16,780 --> 01:25:19,580
That's in bold because that's primarily what we're going to focus on today.

1019
01:25:19,580 --> 01:25:27,100
And then the California budget impacted Medi-Cal through some changes that were effectuated

1020
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:28,080
through the budget process.

1021
01:25:28,580 --> 01:25:34,600
So the one thing that we can tell you is that county residents will be impacted by one

1022
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,600
or more of the changes that have occurred.

1023
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:42,520
But again today what we're going to focus on are those programs that the county delivers and

1024
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,420
provide services to the social safety net programs.

1025
01:25:46,420 --> 01:25:53,480
So, what we're not covering today, there have been a multitude of executive orders issued

1026
01:25:53,480 --> 01:25:54,420
since January.

1027
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:04,240
Many of those executive orders are still tied up in legal challenges between the Federal

1028
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,200
Administration and judges and various groups.

1029
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:13,900
And so, at this point, we are not able to ascertain the impacts of most of them as they still

1030
01:26:13,900 --> 01:26:16,180
will work their way through legal issues.

1031
01:26:24,530 --> 01:26:28,710
So what we're going to try to do today is talk about some of the program changes in the

1032
01:26:28,710 --> 01:26:30,790
larger overarching programs.

1033
01:26:31,130 --> 01:26:35,570
We're just going, Kelly and I are going to hit on some of the big high-level changes.

1034
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:39,970
We're not going to get into the specific details of them because otherwise we would have to

1035
01:26:39,970 --> 01:26:46,030
keep you here for a couple days, which is probably not on your agenda.

1036
01:26:46,910 --> 01:26:51,070
But if there are questions that come up, we'll do our best to answer those and if you have

1037
01:26:51,070 --> 01:26:54,490
questions that we can't answer. We will make a list of those and we'll get back to you as

1038
01:26:54,970 --> 01:27:01,510
the information is available or if we can find it and we'll send that out to you when it's available.

1039
01:27:03,390 --> 01:27:06,870
And then the other thing I want to say is I keep talking about we're going to talk about the

1040
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:12,990
overarching programs but one of the things that I want to make sure that everybody in the public

1041
01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:18,510
understands is although we might talk about the high-level programs, those programs specifically

1042
01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:23,790
medically Medi-Cal also determine access and provide access to other programs.

1043
01:27:24,290 --> 01:27:29,610
So you've had a number of speakers come up this morning speaking on behalf of the in-home supportive services,

1044
01:27:30,210 --> 01:27:34,110
which for those people who don't know, that's for in-home care for individuals.

1045
01:27:35,310 --> 01:27:41,970
IHSS is an entitlement program, entitlement meaning if you are a Medi-Cal recipient,

1046
01:27:42,730 --> 01:27:48,310
and you meet certain eligibility requirements, you are entitled to receive IHSS.

1047
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:53,530
services. If you cannot get medical because there have been changes to the rules around

1048
01:27:53,530 --> 01:27:58,650
medical, you don't just lose your medical which provides you access to primary care mental

1049
01:27:58,650 --> 01:28:03,750
health services, other services, you know, medical is insurance. For people in the public

1050
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:10,010
who don't know that, it is an insurance program. So if you don't have access to medical, then

1051
01:28:10,010 --> 01:28:14,790
you also cannot access those other programs unless you have a lot of cash.

1052
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:20,550
So I just want to give that broad overview.

1053
01:28:20,810 --> 01:28:23,990
Okay, and we will start then with the first program that's impacted.

1054
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:29,610
And the California budget did not impact the supplemental nutrition assistance program.

1055
01:28:29,950 --> 01:28:31,810
You'll hear it called SNAP in California.

1056
01:28:31,810 --> 01:28:32,910
It's called CalFresh.

1057
01:28:33,290 --> 01:28:37,510
It's a food assistance program for low income individuals.

1058
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:46,270
So the other thing that happened with HR1, I also heard this alluded to earlier today,

1059
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:52,670
is that various provisions in the act take place at different points in time.

1060
01:28:53,050 --> 01:28:57,050
So we're going to go through those chronologically when we get to Medi-Cal, we'll embed the California

1061
01:28:57,050 --> 01:28:58,450
changes in there as well.

1062
01:28:59,350 --> 01:29:03,550
But HR1, upon enactment, the first thing I want to say is you can see the number there.

1063
01:29:03,550 --> 01:29:07,550
Currently, the county has almost 55,000 people enrolled in CalFresh.

1064
01:29:08,330 --> 01:29:13,430
The state of California says one in five individuals suffer from food insecurity or

1065
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:14,910
experienced food insecurity.

1066
01:29:15,370 --> 01:29:18,110
So we all know what the population is here.

1067
01:29:18,490 --> 01:29:24,770
And you can see that we've got 55,000 people enrolled to get food benefits.

1068
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:30,130
So upon enactment is tricky with HR1,

1069
01:29:30,130 --> 01:29:35,610
because an on and upon enactment normally means as soon as that goes into place.

1070
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:40,910
However, the federal administration has told all the states a wait till we issue federal guidance.

1071
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:42,290
We've not received that.

1072
01:29:42,430 --> 01:29:44,370
California has received that federal guidance yet.

1073
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:51,110
And once the state does receive it, they have no idea how quickly the turn around will have to be on these changes.

1074
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:55,110
So the first change is modification of work requirements.

1075
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:59,970
California has had a waiver for work requirements under-

1076
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
How fresh for many years, and that waiver goes through 2026. The reason I bring that up is for Health and Social Services' eligibility division. This is a new activity for them. Meaning staff have never had to ensure compliance with and monitor work requirements. So, to the degree that that waiver could be removed by the federal guidance, it could possibly require additional staffing in the department.

1077
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:32,300
and we've made, this is one of our first estimates.

1078
01:30:32,780 --> 01:30:38,720
We have a current case load of individuals of just about 7,000 who would be impacted by the new work requirements.

1079
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:46,220
And it could take an additional four FTE to ensure compliance and monitoring with that.

1080
01:30:47,020 --> 01:30:54,120
The state estimates that under this new requirement, 303,000 individuals may lose their benefits.

1081
01:30:55,500 --> 01:31:00,760
Again, there's a lot of reasons for that, and it has to do with the nature in how the

1082
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:06,880
work requirements are monitored, the documentation that has to be provided, the timeliness with

1083
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,360
which a recipient has to provide that documentation.

1084
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,560
So, again, if you have questions, let us know.

1085
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,980
The next change is to non-citizen eligibility.

1086
01:31:16,580 --> 01:31:22,980
And what I want to clarify is that CalFresh has never been available to undocumented individuals,

1087
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:27,720
but it has been available to legal, permanent residents, refugees, and

1088
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:28,480
assilies.

1089
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:33,160
And those are the categories of individuals that are being taken,

1090
01:31:33,940 --> 01:31:35,720
that their eligibility is being removed.

1091
01:31:35,980 --> 01:31:40,280
Now, the legal, permanent residents may still have access to the program,

1092
01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:41,920
but there's a five year waiting period.

1093
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:46,800
Meaning the first five years, they're not eligible for the program.

1094
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:47,460
Okay.

1095
01:31:48,580 --> 01:31:49,700
You said five years.

1096
01:31:49,820 --> 01:31:50,360
Five years.

1097
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:51,960
Does the wait for five years?

1098
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,900
or they can be eligible for food?

1099
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:56,080
Yes, ma'am.

1100
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:58,640
Okay.

1101
01:31:59,660 --> 01:32:03,840
I thought I heard you say that, but all right,

1102
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,400
I'll just take it back by that and I thank you.

1103
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:12,140
Okay, and so the next two are really about how benefits

1104
01:32:12,140 --> 01:32:14,920
are calculated, the standard utility allowance

1105
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,620
and the internet expenses.

1106
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,660
There is a methodology that just basically says,

1107
01:32:20,660 --> 01:32:22,560
Hey, how much does it cost you to have shelter?

1108
01:32:23,420 --> 01:32:26,000
We all know, we can have a place to live,

1109
01:32:26,020 --> 01:32:28,260
but if we want the temperature to be tolerable,

1110
01:32:28,260 --> 01:32:29,440
we have utility expenses.

1111
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:34,500
So there used to be a credit that accounted for that

1112
01:32:34,900 --> 01:32:37,900
that said, hey, I have to pay utility,

1113
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,800
so I get this allowance, which essentially reduces

1114
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,080
the net income I have to buy food,

1115
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,040
and so my food benefits grow up.

1116
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,460
That utility allowance has been removed.

1117
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:54,300
Same thing with internet, there was a final rule that said, hey, in this day and age internet

1118
01:32:54,300 --> 01:33:02,160
is a requirement of life and it was going to be able to be allowed to be an allowable

1119
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,980
consideration for shelter expense and that rule will not be implemented.

1120
01:33:06,420 --> 01:33:11,620
So that effectively individuals' benefits were going to increase a little bit because

1121
01:33:11,620 --> 01:33:14,300
of that allowance and now they will no longer increase.

1122
01:33:17,190 --> 01:33:21,730
So, can we just do a math problem on that one so I understand it?

1123
01:33:21,850 --> 01:33:22,050
Maybe.

1124
01:33:22,370 --> 01:33:22,610
Okay.

1125
01:33:23,190 --> 01:33:24,390
Make it very simplistic.

1126
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:30,210
Let's say, where you're living and you're paying, you know, PG&E, you're paying

1127
01:33:30,210 --> 01:33:33,630
your rent, whatever, let's just make it $100 just to make the math easy.

1128
01:33:34,150 --> 01:33:42,630
So what you're saying is that now I can't deduct what PG&E is, which I used to be able

1129
01:33:42,630 --> 01:33:48,210
to which maybe say it was $20 to make it $80 and maybe another $20 for the Internet.

1130
01:33:48,510 --> 01:33:54,210
So now I'm down to $60 and then that meant that I was going to be probably eligible

1131
01:33:54,210 --> 01:33:58,490
for SNAP because I have less money coming in, correct?

1132
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:00,290
Is that my understanding all of that correctly?

1133
01:34:00,890 --> 01:34:05,110
Yes, the utility allows us, which are up to a minimum level.

1134
01:34:05,330 --> 01:34:06,630
It's not like every dollar for dollars.

1135
01:34:06,630 --> 01:34:07,890
Yeah, just doing the math easing.

1136
01:34:07,890 --> 01:34:14,050
But easy math, yes, it would increase your benefit amount as well because it would take it off of your income.

1137
01:34:14,230 --> 01:34:22,450
Got it. Okay. Because all of this is based on an income that you receive, however one gets it. Got it. Okay.

1138
01:34:22,750 --> 01:34:28,430
So I just want to make sure I understand that. So now we're talking about people who are not doing so well.

1139
01:34:28,870 --> 01:34:35,530
But I like having AC just last couple of weeks. And occasionally it's nice to eat.

1140
01:34:35,530 --> 01:34:38,950
But now I'm not going to be able to hand all of that.

1141
01:34:39,150 --> 01:34:40,870
I just want to make sure I'm getting this correctly.

1142
01:34:41,250 --> 01:34:41,430
Okay.

1143
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:46,650
So the one thing I want to clarify and Kelly alluded to this is the allowance is not a dollar

1144
01:34:46,650 --> 01:34:47,130
for dollar.

1145
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:52,170
If you're peaking, it's a credit amount, it's like a standard credit amount that you get.

1146
01:34:52,650 --> 01:34:57,530
So it doesn't, it never alleviated the full cost of utilities.

1147
01:34:58,090 --> 01:35:01,230
But it was a help at

1148
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,580
least some sort of a deduction so you'd have less so that you could

1149
01:35:07,580 --> 01:35:10,000
you may possibly at the time qualify.

1150
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,420
Okay, I just want to make sure.

1151
01:35:12,060 --> 01:35:12,200
Yes.

1152
01:35:12,940 --> 01:35:13,620
Okay,

1153
01:35:16,300 --> 01:35:19,160
okay, so the first date that comes along

1154
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:23,940
is October 1st of 2025, rapidly approaching.

1155
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,920
And that will be the elimination of SNAP ed.

1156
01:35:28,100 --> 01:35:31,240
And SNAP ed is a nutrition education program.

1157
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,820
The NAPAS Delano Area Agency on Aging

1158
01:35:34,820 --> 01:35:39,060
will have a direct loss of services of just about $600,000.

1159
01:35:39,060 --> 01:35:48,440
Those services provide nutrition and obesity prevention program for the population served by the AAA in the county.

1160
01:35:49,080 --> 01:36:01,080
Public health also has two FTE that are funded and you see the dollar amount up there that provide healthy living to the broader community at home through their healthy living programs.

1161
01:36:01,580 --> 01:36:03,960
That funding will go away.

1162
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:03,980
Okay.

1163
01:36:06,350 --> 01:36:07,990
The other thing that, yes ma'am, sorry.

1164
01:36:09,110 --> 01:36:18,130
Does that mean we have to lay off to snap at, I mean, the full time, because the FTE

1165
01:36:18,130 --> 01:36:19,110
is full time employment.

1166
01:36:19,850 --> 01:36:22,850
I mean, those two lose their job or what, what does that mean?

1167
01:36:23,690 --> 01:36:24,210
No.

1168
01:36:24,650 --> 01:36:31,650
So what it means is that those individuals have job classifications that are used elsewhere

1169
01:36:31,650 --> 01:36:32,410
with public health.

1170
01:36:32,410 --> 01:36:42,090
So what public health is doing is looking for, you know, for a transition period, a new program home within public health.

1171
01:36:42,530 --> 01:36:44,770
Okay. That was all. Thank you.

1172
01:36:44,770 --> 01:36:53,450
But it does mean that where there are vacancies in those other programs that those people will fill, we will not be adding to new people.

1173
01:36:53,710 --> 01:37:01,150
So it is an indirect attrition of public health staff. We'll just do it through vacancies and moving people around.

1174
01:37:02,670 --> 01:37:03,270
Okay.

1175
01:37:03,490 --> 01:37:08,050
The other thing that happens on October 1st, there is this thing called the Thrifty Food

1176
01:37:08,050 --> 01:37:11,510
Plan within CalFresh, well, to the federal level.

1177
01:37:11,730 --> 01:37:16,870
And what that Thrifty Food Plan says is, hey, here's what it costs to provide a healthy

1178
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:18,010
meal for a household.

1179
01:37:18,730 --> 01:37:24,450
And then that calculation is used to identify benefit amounts for different size households.

1180
01:37:25,090 --> 01:37:31,930
One of the changes that's happening in October is that the benefit amounts are reduced for

1181
01:37:31,930 --> 01:37:37,630
a 9 plus member household and they are capped for an 18 member household and the thrifty

1182
01:37:37,630 --> 01:37:45,230
food plan is not allowed to be re-evaluated until 2027 and when it is, it has to be cost

1183
01:37:45,230 --> 01:37:53,390
neutral. So if you have inflationary pressures and it costs more to provide a healthy meal for

1184
01:37:53,390 --> 01:38:01,050
a household, those adjustments will not be made. So over time, what will happen is the value

1185
01:38:01,050 --> 01:38:11,890
a few of the benefits will be reduced because people will be able to purchase less food because the household dollar amount is not allowed to increase.

1186
01:38:12,690 --> 01:38:25,990
Makes sense? Okay, that gets us through 2025. Now we roll on to October 1st of 2026. This is one of the more concrete impacts that we're able to identify.

1187
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:40,990
So right now the way that CalFresh snap at the federal level is administered, or how it was, is that the federal government paid 50% of the cost share and the state paid 35 and the counties paid 15%.

1188
01:38:41,630 --> 01:38:44,950
So 50 with the state and counties, 50 with the feds.

1189
01:38:45,150 --> 01:38:53,530
The feds change that, the feds will now pay 25% and the cost shift goes 75% to the state.

1190
01:38:54,490 --> 01:38:59,970
In statute in California, that prior split was already in place.

1191
01:39:00,430 --> 01:39:04,790
So the effect of it is that the counties have to absorb a proportion of it.

1192
01:39:04,970 --> 01:39:09,830
So county cost shares will go from 15% to 22.5%.

1193
01:39:10,490 --> 01:39:20,270
For us, as of today, that means an approximate 2.2 to 2.5 million dollars increased in administrative cost for the program.

1194
01:39:20,270 --> 01:39:27,070
And I just want to make sure everyone understands this, the board probably does, but perhaps not the public.

1195
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:31,370
The county's role in CalFresh is to administer the program.

1196
01:39:31,650 --> 01:39:35,650
We do not, at this point in time, actually pay the benefit dollar amounts.

1197
01:39:36,090 --> 01:39:43,670
What our staff does is they are the ones that take in the applications, determine eligibility,

1198
01:39:43,670 --> 01:39:49,050
make sure all the criteria is met and then re-determine that on an ongoing basis.

1199
01:39:50,350 --> 01:39:57,870
So this is, this 2.2 to 2.5 million dollars is an increased cost to administer the program.

1200
01:39:58,990 --> 01:40:03,430
And the one thing I will say is that counties have been advocating for a very,

1201
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:09,090
very long time specifically in the CalFresh program to modify the methodology program

1202
01:40:09,090 --> 01:40:18,450
because it already so it does not cover the cost of administering so say that

1203
01:40:18,450 --> 01:40:24,170
last sentence again so there is already a shortfall in the cost because it's

1204
01:40:24,170 --> 01:40:29,810
an allocation comes to every county's to administer the program okay so there's

1205
01:40:29,810 --> 01:40:34,230
already for many many years there's been a shortfall meaning our staffing

1206
01:40:34,230 --> 01:40:38,270
cost our cost to administer the program exceed our allocation.

1207
01:40:39,390 --> 01:40:41,450
That's statewide, that's been a problem.

1208
01:40:41,730 --> 01:40:47,650
And so, the California Welfare Association, Welfare Directors Association, and

1209
01:40:47,650 --> 01:40:51,650
other entities had been advocating for a really long time for a change in methodology.

1210
01:40:52,010 --> 01:40:58,130
There was a little bit of a change, not enough to pay the cost, and now this will be an added burden.

1211
01:40:58,590 --> 01:41:02,070
So I'm emphasizing that point because this is a real cost to the county.

1212
01:41:02,070 --> 01:41:04,230
Yeah, going forward.

1213
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:11,390
So I apologize for not knowing these, a CalFresh, that means if I have my EBT card, that's what CalFresh is, right?

1214
01:41:11,550 --> 01:41:23,150
I just want to make sure, so yeah, okay, so obviously, if I'm going to editorialize for a second, we're going to really have to help our food banks to make all of this work.

1215
01:41:25,180 --> 01:41:26,820
Okay, that was it.

1216
01:41:26,820 --> 01:41:26,920
But

1217
01:41:29,390 --> 01:41:40,670
October 1st, 2027, is the next round of changes, and this one is potentially catastrophic

1218
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:47,940
words, but this is potentially devastating to the state on the CalFresh program.

1219
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:56,220
So, medium and large counties are required to have a quality assurance program to assure that eligibility is properly determined.

1220
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:07,420
You know, we're skimming the surface on this program, but kind of like how we talked about the utilities, determining eligibility, our staff go through a six-month training to learn how to do this.

1221
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:17,560
It is very complicated. There are a lot of details involved. Some of our staff go through the training more than once because there's just so many nuances.

1222
01:42:17,980 --> 01:42:23,260
So it's not, it is, it is not an easy task to learn how to do these things.

1223
01:42:23,260 --> 01:42:30,560
So there's lots of different points in the process where errors can occur.

1224
01:42:30,860 --> 01:42:37,420
I would like to give a shout out to our eligibility team because if you look at the numbers up

1225
01:42:37,420 --> 01:42:45,620
there at the state's overall error rate for 2024 is 10.98%, he improved red my power point

1226
01:42:45,620 --> 01:42:51,220
for me and he circled 0.98%, I think because he thought that number was wrong.

1227
01:42:53,040 --> 01:43:01,100
That's how low the error rate is, so the team that works for it and this is Alicia Jones.

1228
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:08,660
She's an administrator in and backfilling for Kelly's role right now in employment eligibility.

1229
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:13,780
That team has done an entire division has done an amazing job to keep the error rate down.

1230
01:43:13,780 --> 01:43:23,940
However, the federal government in 2027 is going to start implementing penalties for states that exceed certain error rates.

1231
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:29,740
And there's a scale, but the bottom line is that if you're over a 10% error rate as a state,

1232
01:43:30,300 --> 01:43:35,720
the penalty is that that state has to pay 15% of the total benefit amounts.

1233
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,520
That's $2 billion for California.

1234
01:43:38,520 --> 01:44:08,500
Just to give you an example of how much we contribute as a county to that, remember our 55,000 people who receive benefits, we have $121.4 million in benefit dollars going out to CalFresh right now, that's what that $18.2 million of their represents, the state would have to cover for our county, $18.2 million, even though our error rate is 0.98% because it's a $1 million.

1235
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:10,040
one size fits all for the state.

1236
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,860
This is one of the things we do not know how the state's going to handle it.

1237
01:44:15,140 --> 01:44:18,780
I think that we can all agree that the state is really going to try to get out all the

1238
01:44:18,780 --> 01:44:20,340
counties to get their error risks down.

1239
01:44:22,420 --> 01:44:24,440
But again, it's a complicated process.

1240
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,140
There's lots of touches along the ways.

1241
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:31,180
There's lots of opportunities for error on both the staff side and on the recipient side.

1242
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:33,780
And this is complicated.

1243
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:35,520
There's some timing involved.

1244
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,900
All of the states can choose different periods of time to use as their baseline.

1245
01:44:39,220 --> 01:44:42,380
They can ask for a little longer to try to get the rate improved.

1246
01:44:43,060 --> 01:44:45,020
So there's a lot to be seen on this.

1247
01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:57,200
But when we're thinking about the state budget, you know, the message that I want everyone to remember is this could be a $2 billion hit for one change in one program to the state.

1248
01:45:00,900 --> 01:45:31,800
And we will switch topics. So Medicaid. Medicaid is the insurance program that I was talking about. It's a government insurance program in California. It's called Medi-Cal. Our current enrollment in Medi-Cal is almost 147,000 people. Again, you guys know the population of Salano. So you can see how many of our residents really, really rely on Medi-Cal to get the

1249
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,400
the medical services that they need.

1250
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,460
And again, some of those other services

1251
01:45:37,460 --> 01:45:39,140
like in-home supportive care.

1252
01:45:40,540 --> 01:45:42,940
So, again, upon enactment,

1253
01:45:45,580 --> 01:45:47,320
HR1 made some rules.

1254
01:45:47,660 --> 01:45:50,100
Now, the one thing, for those of you who aren't familiar

1255
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:51,860
with the Affordable Care Act specifics,

1256
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,100
when the Affordable Care Act was passed,

1257
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,260
it made certain individuals that used to be

1258
01:45:59,260 --> 01:46:03,080
that childless adults were not eligible for medical.

1259
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:11,840
The Affordable Care Act changed that in individuals ages 19 to 64 with income up to 138 percent

1260
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:18,220
of the federal poverty level became eligible for medical.

1261
01:46:19,700 --> 01:46:25,320
That is referred to as the expansion population and that's why I'm telling you this because

1262
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:30,280
There's a lot of these changes in HR1 affect the expansion population.

1263
01:46:30,740 --> 01:46:35,680
So think of it as prior to ACA, we call that traditional Medi-Cal.

1264
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:41,520
People who are already eligible, post ACA, the population, the new population that became

1265
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,880
eligible, we call that the expansion population.

1266
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:52,820
So the first thing that HR1 does under Medicaid is it delays until 2035 certain rule changes

1267
01:46:52,820 --> 01:46:54,320
that were previously scheduled.

1268
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,140
So what that means is, you know, there's always these rules that come out.

1269
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,680
And one of them was in 2023 and it related to Medicare.

1270
01:47:03,340 --> 01:47:07,800
So some of these changes around citizenship also impact Medicare.

1271
01:47:08,580 --> 01:47:15,100
County doesn't administer Medicare, but anytime we talk about citizenship, eligibility changes,

1272
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:16,960
those were also applied to Medicare.

1273
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:31,040
So, one of the rule changes was to support lower income individuals in their Medicare savings program to help them pay for their Medicare Part A and Part B payments.

1274
01:47:31,580 --> 01:47:35,180
That rule has been halted until 2035.

1275
01:47:35,780 --> 01:47:42,660
The other rule was in 2024, and it was about, it was generally, there were a multitude of factors in it.

1276
01:47:42,660 --> 01:47:45,460
but it was really about streamlining enrollment,

1277
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,680
like different modalities of enrollment,

1278
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,140
online email phone, streaming enrollment

1279
01:47:51,140 --> 01:47:53,380
between programs that had this same eligibility,

1280
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,520
like there's a children's insurance health program

1281
01:47:55,520 --> 01:48:00,660
in MediCal giving a reconsideration period of 90 days.

1282
01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:03,320
Like I said, the programs are all really complicated

1283
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,140
in their eligibility, people make mistakes,

1284
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:06,380
they don't have their documentation,

1285
01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:08,040
sometimes people get dropped.

1286
01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:10,720
One of those role changes was like a 90-day

1287
01:48:12,340 --> 01:48:17,160
reconsideration before people would drop to allow them to kind of clean up whatever needed

1288
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:18,280
to be done or repeal.

1289
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:25,060
So all of that, the goal of those roles was to get people who were eligible enrolled in

1290
01:48:25,060 --> 01:48:26,620
MediCal and to keep them enrolled.

1291
01:48:27,780 --> 01:48:30,320
And those changes will now not be implemented.

1292
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:39,040
The other thing that happened upon enactment is none, you can read it, essentially this is

1293
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:46,660
about abortions. Any non-profit organization that provided abortions and received more

1294
01:48:46,660 --> 01:48:55,240
than 800,000 in Medicaid payments in 2023 cannot receive any medical payments for a year.

1295
01:48:58,900 --> 01:49:05,680
Yes, and the county does not fund Planned Parenthood for that purpose, but the county does have

1296
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:11,480
a contract with Planned Parenthood. So the viability in public health and that's for some other

1297
01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:13,780
work around communicable diseases.

1298
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:22,360
So this obviously is an impact to some of the nonprofit providers and the viability and

1299
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,920
a sustainability whether or not they can stay open.

1300
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,780
The last thing that happened upon enactment, this one gets complicated.

1301
01:49:31,380 --> 01:49:38,280
States cannot oppose any new provider taxes or increase their whole harmless rates.

1302
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:46,240
In 2024, you will call that Proposition 35 had what was called an MCO tax, a managed

1303
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,960
care organization tax on the ballot, which California passed.

1304
01:49:52,180 --> 01:50:00,240
This tax, so partnership, is a managed care organization, Kaiser's managed care organization.

1305
01:50:00,820 --> 01:50:06,700
What the state does and what Proposition 35 made permanent is the state taxes.

1306
01:50:06,700 --> 01:50:15,120
those manage care providers, the tax revenue that they get, we used to have a 50-50 match,

1307
01:50:15,620 --> 01:50:22,080
federal government 50%, state 50% for Medi-Cal, the state taxes and Medi-Cal organizations,

1308
01:50:22,620 --> 01:50:29,200
they take that tax and they use it as their matching funds to draw down the federal funding.

1309
01:50:29,620 --> 01:50:34,460
So the state takes in through the MCO tax, $14 billion a year.

1310
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:49,300
And HR1 says you cannot add any new taxes and then we'll talk about it in a couple slides but in a couple years they also the states also have to reduce the amount they tax.

1311
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:54,280
So this is a large, we talked about the $2 billion hit on SNAP.

1312
01:50:54,700 --> 01:51:01,700
This is an enormous hit to the state because absent this revenue, the state,

1313
01:51:01,700 --> 01:51:07,620
We'll have to use General Fund or another source to get to draw down matching funds from the federal government

1314
01:51:08,180 --> 01:51:11,040
in order to pay for the medical program in the state.

1315
01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:23,860
Hold on. So if that doesn't happen, then that means there's going to be people who are not going to have insurance.

1316
01:51:25,340 --> 01:51:29,180
They're not going to, you know, they're not going to be able to go to the emergency room with an insurance card.

1317
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,700
Well, the managed care tax

1318
01:51:34,860 --> 01:51:40,500
has to do with the state's ability to pay for Medi-Cal, and again, I told you, I warned you,

1319
01:51:40,660 --> 01:51:41,500
I need to be frustrated.

1320
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:47,400
I've spent many a time trying to figure out in my head how

1321
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:53,220
the state is going to address and handle these challenges, and I don't have an answer to

1322
01:51:53,220 --> 01:51:59,140
that. When we get to the end, we'll give you some numbers on what we think the impacts

1323
01:51:59,140 --> 01:52:07,380
might be in terms of people who lose eligibility for Medi-Cal, but as we go through this list

1324
01:52:07,380 --> 01:52:11,520
and my hand it over to Kelly in just a minute, you'll see that there's lots of little ways

1325
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:18,500
that access to care will be diminished. The tax, I don't know if that's how the state helps pay

1326
01:52:18,500 --> 01:52:24,980
for the program. But aren't we required by law to take care of anybody that goes into an emergency room

1327
01:52:24,980 --> 01:52:27,180
whether they have medical insurance.

1328
01:52:28,420 --> 01:52:31,440
And we will talk about that when we get to the year

1329
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:33,040
that that takes place.

1330
01:52:33,660 --> 01:52:35,240
I think that's on page seven.

1331
01:52:35,940 --> 01:52:37,520
Oh god, OK.

1332
01:52:37,820 --> 01:52:38,200
All right.

1333
01:52:38,420 --> 01:52:41,680
I know I've been working on this PowerPoint for a week.

1334
01:52:41,860 --> 01:52:43,080
Imagine how depressed I've been.

1335
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:45,880
And OK.

1336
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:53,740
So on this slide, the one thing that HR1 does did add

1337
01:52:53,740 --> 01:52:58,920
And it was, it established something called a role health transportation, not transportation,

1338
01:52:59,260 --> 01:53:01,020
don't get excited Matt, toggle.

1339
01:53:03,460 --> 01:53:05,240
Role health transformation grants fun.

1340
01:53:06,660 --> 01:53:10,920
And the idea was to help mitigate the effects of Medicaid reductions.

1341
01:53:11,140 --> 01:53:16,700
And if you watch the news and you heard this, you're all aware that there have been a plethora

1342
01:53:16,700 --> 01:53:19,840
of role hospital closures across the country.

1343
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:26,740
We've experienced RCRT talks about it a lot because a lot of the Northern California is and some of the Central

1344
01:53:26,740 --> 01:53:29,520
But California counties have been impacted by this.

1345
01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:35,860
So there is recognition that lost to hospitals is only going to exacerbate that problem.

1346
01:53:36,020 --> 01:53:40,820
So this fund was established primarily with the goal of rural hospitals in mind.

1347
01:53:41,480 --> 01:53:45,100
It is $50 billion over a five year period.

1348
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:54,880
States have to apply. And again, the focus is on rural. I do not have information on how California is applying or what they're trying to accomplish.

1349
01:53:55,080 --> 01:54:09,520
But the goal is to mitigate some of the impacts to the hospital. There's been a lot of estimates that come out that it'll cover on a short-term basis, about 35% of the loss to the hospitals.

1350
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:19,480
And that's nationwide, so that will just tell you kind of how the funding is spent.

1351
01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:24,720
The first 25 billion is supposed to go equally to all approved states.

1352
01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:27,320
There is no guarantee that every state will be approved.

1353
01:54:27,980 --> 01:54:34,120
The second 25 billion goes out as determined by the setters of Medicaid and

1354
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,920
Medicare, Medicare and Medicaid, excuse me, it's under the Health and Human Services Agency.

1355
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,920
Let me see if the federal government, and again, we don't know what criteria they're

1356
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:42,700
going to use to do that.

1357
01:54:43,140 --> 01:54:50,180
So how much money will actually come to California is unknown at this point, and now it's the

1358
01:54:50,180 --> 01:54:50,680
Kelly show.

1359
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:59,980
So before we get into the January change, you probably remember that the state was struggling

1360
01:55:01,300 --> 01:55:06,000
with closing a budget gap, and a significant amount of that budget gap was being driven by

1361
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:15,360
medical overspending. So the changes I'm about to talk to are specific to addressing the state's

1362
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:23,920
budget challenge this year. This was before all the HR1 changes. So the first change was that

1363
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:31,340
effective January 1st, 2026. They would freeze enrollment of undocumented individuals 19 and older.

1364
01:55:31,340 --> 01:55:36,920
So this was under the state's medical for all, first was expanded to children and

1365
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:41,600
then went to our seniors and then finally to everyone.

1366
01:55:42,580 --> 01:55:46,400
And so this is freezing enrollment for those 19 in order.

1367
01:55:47,340 --> 01:55:55,420
And the state is estimating that 200,000 individuals could lose coverage in the first full year.

1368
01:55:55,880 --> 01:56:00,700
And this is because just normal if you don't redetermine your eligibility.

1369
01:56:00,700 --> 01:56:06,580
ability, you won't be able to, there'll be a short period of submitting your documents

1370
01:56:06,580 --> 01:56:11,840
if you didn't do it timely, but then if you do pass that threshold, you won't be able

1371
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,020
to re-enroll in those services.

1372
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:19,360
And also, they're going to discontinue dental services, not just for the undocumented population,

1373
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:23,900
but for those with this new unsatisfactory immigration status.

1374
01:56:23,900 --> 01:56:26,860
and that includes undocumented population,

1375
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:32,180
but also the other categories that have now been added,

1376
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:36,720
the Asylees, refugees, trafficking, crime victims,

1377
01:56:37,300 --> 01:56:41,040
and other humanitarian parolees from Afghanistan

1378
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:45,160
and Ukraine and those temporary protected statuses,

1379
01:56:45,180 --> 01:56:48,160
they will not have access to the dental services

1380
01:56:48,460 --> 01:56:49,400
under this change.

1381
01:56:49,400 --> 01:57:00,720
And then October 1st, 2026, under HR1, those individuals I just mentioned will no longer

1382
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:08,560
have access to what they used to have access to full scope, medical, the assilies, refugees,

1383
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:14,540
parolees, all those categories, because they were lawfully here, they were documented, if

1384
01:57:14,540 --> 01:57:19,940
if you will, but they will no longer have eligibility, only legal permanent residents,

1385
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:25,800
Cuban and Haitian immigrants, and those under the Compact of Free Association countries.

1386
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:31,760
Those will be the only groups that will have eligibility to Fulscope Medical Services.

1387
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:37,320
Who will have eligibility?

1388
01:57:38,140 --> 01:57:39,280
Legal permanent residents,

1389
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,820
legal permanent residents, Cuban

1390
01:57:45,820 --> 01:57:47,360
Haitian immigrants, and the

1391
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:49,240
compact of free association.

1392
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:51,440
That's the Marshall Islands, and

1393
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:52,940
there's a couple others I can't

1394
01:57:52,940 --> 01:57:53,140
remember.

1395
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:55,460
Small island nations.

1396
01:57:58,560 --> 01:57:58,640
Sure.

1397
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:01,920
And then, and again, with the

1398
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,100
legal permanent residents, this is

1399
01:58:03,100 --> 01:58:04,120
after the five year bar.

1400
01:58:04,380 --> 01:58:06,240
And we don't have, we don't have

1401
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,280
easy access to know how many in

1402
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:10,920
our county are at that five year bar

1403
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:15,420
or not, but we do know that there are 16,700 in those other categories.

1404
01:58:21,180 --> 01:58:32,500
Okay, October 1st, 2026 continuing on, those states that did expand under ACA, of course,

1405
01:58:32,660 --> 01:58:40,780
California is one, there will be a restriction on reimbursement for emergency medical care due to immigration status.

1406
01:58:40,780 --> 01:58:50,940
So this is currently reimbursed at 90% and it'll be reducing to 50% and this does include not just emergency hospital services, but ambulance services as well.

1407
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:54,080
And Sue Resabron earlier you asked a question.

1408
01:58:54,500 --> 01:58:57,960
So yes, states are required to reimburse for emergency care.

1409
01:58:58,180 --> 01:59:08,360
So the big distinction here is that for that expansion population, we talked about the state used to be able to draw down 90% reimbursement, 90%.

1410
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:12,280
and now they can, that will only be able to draw down 50%.

1411
01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:22,290
Okay, and then, so a significant impact both on our recipients of medical

1412
01:59:22,290 --> 01:59:27,390
and our staff is the change December 31st, 2026.

1413
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:33,650
We'll be moving to redetermining eligibility for those in this expansion population

1414
01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:39,390
for Solano County, that's 42,450 individuals right now.

1415
01:59:39,390 --> 01:59:42,970
But instead of doing it once a year, we'll have to do it twice a year.

1416
01:59:43,310 --> 01:59:48,390
That's administratively burdensome, obviously both for staff, but also for those that we're serving.

1417
01:59:49,290 --> 01:59:54,550
And we'll undoubtedly learn to have churn as a result of that.

1418
01:59:55,050 --> 01:59:58,250
But also a significant workload impact.

1419
01:59:58,490 --> 01:59:59,850
We're estimating about 14.

1420
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,780
FTEs of workload to be able to do that second processing of eligibility annually. We don't

1421
02:00:09,780 --> 02:00:13,940
know how many will lose benefits as a result of this churn, but the state is estimating

1422
02:00:13,940 --> 02:00:19,220
400,000 may lose coverage just due to the administrative impacts of this.

1423
02:00:20,700 --> 02:00:28,780
And then right now you can apply for retroactive coverage. If you're eligible for medical, you

1424
02:00:28,780 --> 02:00:33,860
You can also request to have coverage up to three months prior to your application month.

1425
02:00:34,940 --> 02:00:38,640
And this is like, perhaps you had some sort of emergency.

1426
02:00:39,700 --> 02:00:41,060
You didn't have coverage of the time.

1427
02:00:41,180 --> 02:00:46,240
You went to the hospital and then you did not complete an application and later you get

1428
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,640
your bill and you're like, oh, well, right now you can apply up to three months back.

1429
02:00:50,180 --> 02:00:57,220
This changes to, again, the ACA expansion population one month prior and then all the traditional

1430
02:00:57,220 --> 02:01:06,520
medical recipients two months prior, and the state's estimating 86,000 members would be impacted by that.

1431
02:01:07,820 --> 02:01:13,580
And that is the result of that, of course, will be that there's likely to be an increase in unreimbursed expenses.

1432
02:01:17,620 --> 02:01:19,280
Back to Debbie, right?

1433
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:22,600
Oh, no, sorry, I'm sorry, still me.

1434
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:30,440
So, Kelly, just because I want to talk to someone, to tie in with to what you got through saying that means we're going to have more people who are going

1435
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,800
to maybe lose their homes because they're not going to be able to pay that hospital bill.

1436
02:01:34,420 --> 02:01:35,680
That's what this is going to happen.

1437
02:01:36,380 --> 02:01:37,560
Yeah, or they don't-

1438
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:41,760
Or they might not go to the hospital and become more sick and-

1439
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:49,280
And there were some also some credit changes that now medical bills will still count against you for things.

1440
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:51,040
So, okay, okay, that's-

1441
02:01:51,940 --> 02:01:59,760
So I was intentionally trying to avoid this slide, this is work requirements for

1442
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:19,720
Medi-Cal. We've never had this before in California, but this is requiring 80 hours a month or 80 hour equivalent of work, education or community engagement for those who are between the ages of 1964 and don't have certain exemptions.

1443
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:28,720
So this is not only do you have to do that to be eligible, but you have to approve that

1444
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,160
you were out, you were doing it the month before you applied.

1445
02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:37,560
Our estimate, we don't have an estimate right now because we have to write a whole new

1446
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:41,120
query to figure out which group will be subject to this.

1447
02:02:42,180 --> 02:02:47,160
They will also have to do six month re-determinations including proving that they still are meeting

1448
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:54,460
work requirements to retain coverage, we are expecting about a six FTE equivalent of

1449
02:02:54,460 --> 02:03:04,180
work from this estimates based on some guessing, and obviously significant disenrollments will

1450
02:03:04,180 --> 02:03:09,580
be anticipated from this because of the administrative burden and people not being able to meet.

1451
02:03:09,580 --> 02:03:16,230
So, for example, you don't get exemption because you're homeless.

1452
02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:20,210
So you can imagine that that could be challenging.

1453
02:03:22,110 --> 02:03:27,170
There's, let's see, an individual's failure to comply with work requirements for Medi-Cal

1454
02:03:27,590 --> 02:03:32,230
will also make you ineligible for premium tax credits under Covered California.

1455
02:03:33,070 --> 02:03:37,350
We do not know how CMSP might be impacted by health.

1456
02:03:46,180 --> 02:03:47,980
You have any example of work education?

1457
02:03:49,820 --> 02:03:52,960
You could be in college, for example.

1458
02:03:54,620 --> 02:03:56,580
College, certain number of hours in college,

1459
02:03:56,740 --> 02:04:00,160
you could get credit for education and trade.

1460
02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:05,020
What if I'm not working at all?

1461
02:04:06,700 --> 02:04:08,720
Then you are not going to be eligible for medical.

1462
02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:13,840
In community engagement?

1463
02:04:14,820 --> 02:04:15,560
Volunteer someplace?

1464
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:17,580
You can volunteer.

1465
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:21,880
You have to either have an equivalent of $590

1466
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:27,680
dollars worth of income, which is the federal minimum wage equivalent, a month, or you

1467
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:32,520
can volunteer, or you can be in education and training.

1468
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:35,220
And we're going to have to follow all that for every individual?

1469
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:35,680
Yes.

1470
02:04:36,300 --> 02:04:36,860
Documented?

1471
02:04:37,020 --> 02:04:37,280
Yes.

1472
02:04:37,980 --> 02:04:39,060
And we'll have,

1473
02:04:42,020 --> 02:04:47,700
yeah, other states, so it's been tried in other states, and they've had

1474
02:04:47,700 --> 02:04:52,520
people who were eligible, who've dropped off due to the administrative requirements of

1475
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:53,280
trying to prove.

1476
02:04:53,280 --> 02:05:00,960
this stuff and they've also even adhered stories of people losing their job because of their

1477
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:06,180
medical. I mean, it just, it becomes a cycle of trying to prove that you're eligible for your

1478
02:05:06,180 --> 02:05:14,720
medical to get your services so that you can retain your employment. So I read estimates of 60 to

1479
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:18,080
70% of people could lose their coverage for non-compliance.

1480
02:05:19,860 --> 02:05:22,480
The state will.

1481
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:28,640
Getting

1482
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:33,360
close to being done.

1483
02:05:35,020 --> 02:05:38,520
So January 1st, 2027, HR1,

1484
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:41,820
implements new address verification requirements.

1485
02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:43,700
There's also some death check requirements.

1486
02:05:44,300 --> 02:05:47,800
Implement eligibility does address check verifications already

1487
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:49,600
and they do death checks already.

1488
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:52,640
We're assuming that the address verifications

1489
02:05:52,640 --> 02:06:00,420
which are going to specify certain systems that have to be run through, that that will

1490
02:06:00,420 --> 02:06:06,080
be automated, and so therefore that this particular thing is not going to be a big impact

1491
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:07,240
because we do it already.

1492
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:12,320
The one thing I didn't say in the beginning that I should have is that there is an assumption

1493
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:20,580
that all of these program changes will require additional outreach, notifications, document

1494
02:06:20,580 --> 02:06:27,420
updates system changes across the board, especially for these things that have never been done before.

1495
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:34,780
Our eligibility system, which is called CalSaws, is not set up to do six-month three determinations.

1496
02:06:34,900 --> 02:06:37,640
It's not set up to do some of this compliance and monitoring.

1497
02:06:38,140 --> 02:06:42,800
So there, in addition to the costs and the staffing impacts that we've talked about,

1498
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:47,800
there are all these behind the scene, if I was in the CAO's office,

1499
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:52,240
So I'd be talking about our 2000 series, our services and supply and our system upgrades

1500
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:55,620
costs that will also be happening across the board.

1501
02:06:56,340 --> 02:06:59,860
So address verifications may be one of those in terms of staffing.

1502
02:06:59,860 --> 02:07:01,800
We don't anticipate that it will be a big deal.

1503
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:09,340
The other thing that happens in January is that any Medicaid section, 1-1-1-5 demonstration

1504
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,320
waivers must be budget neutral to obtain approval.

1505
02:07:15,180 --> 02:07:22,120
The waivers are the agreement between CMS at the federal level and the states as to how

1506
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:25,960
the states are going to administer Medicaid in their states.

1507
02:07:26,500 --> 02:07:33,500
So in California, we have CalAIM as our waiver and CalAIM expires in 2026.

1508
02:07:34,460 --> 02:07:43,060
CalAIM brought forth a whole bunch of new programs, community supports, just as involved

1509
02:07:43,060 --> 02:07:50,040
initiative which is partial scope medical services in the jail, which we had to do

1510
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:53,160
medical eligibility in the jail in order to get there.

1511
02:07:54,580 --> 02:08:00,140
Your staff in the Sheriff's Office and probation and in employment eligibility

1512
02:08:00,140 --> 02:08:04,380
have put in thousands of hours getting those programs.

1513
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,060
The first phase of them done, they've been working on the second phase.

1514
02:08:08,060 --> 02:08:16,220
And all of that comes into question in 2026 when California has to renew the Cal-Aim waiver.

1515
02:08:16,780 --> 02:08:25,120
So this is another really big but completely unknown impact at this point because we don't

1516
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:32,380
know what programs will be allowed to continue, again, everything has to be budget neutral.

1517
02:08:32,380 --> 02:08:41,500
So in the past, the programs had to show that they met certain goals, but not necessarily

1518
02:08:41,500 --> 02:08:45,820
budget neutral, so that's a big one.

1519
02:08:46,300 --> 02:08:47,340
Debbie, just one second.

1520
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:54,380
So I apologize, budget neutral, does that mean the amount of money coming in must equal

1521
02:08:54,380 --> 02:08:57,640
the amount of money going out, and some people might not get service?

1522
02:08:57,640 --> 02:09:02,720
It means that the state says, hey, this is how we're going to administer Medi-Cal.

1523
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:10,500
If, and the feds are, say, okay, you're entitled or whatever to this much money, I'm way oversimplifying.

1524
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:15,220
And the state says, then, well, we want to do this and this and this.

1525
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:19,380
The feds say, well, no, that's going to cost more than we would otherwise give you.

1526
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:22,320
So, no, you can't do that unless you cut someplace else.

1527
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:34,880
So, all of those new programs and initiatives and pilots that were in Cal A, because the goal was to provide continuity of care.

1528
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:46,740
I mean, in the jails now, we have individuals that come into the jails, they're on medication, they're undercare, they have diabetes, or they have heart issues, Brad could probably share a whole laundry list.

1529
02:09:47,740 --> 02:09:54,420
They want, the goal was to keep those individuals stabilized while they were in, you know, under

1530
02:09:54,420 --> 02:09:58,860
that same care, under the same medication, getting treatment, because then when they're

1531
02:09:58,860 --> 02:10:04,060
released, if they don't, otherwise, you know, they're starting over from scratch, they're

1532
02:10:04,060 --> 02:10:07,000
in the emergency rooms, they have to go through the whole process again.

1533
02:10:07,380 --> 02:10:13,800
So the pilot was, hey, it's better for the community, it's better for the individuals, and it really

1534
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:19,720
The end is neutral cost neutral because you don't have these big spikes in cost because

1535
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:20,800
people have fallen off.

1536
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:26,140
All of those kinds of programs, whether they continue or not, we won't know.

1537
02:10:26,260 --> 02:10:33,480
Community supports in Cal AIM provided for the first time some housing dollars.

1538
02:10:35,180 --> 02:10:37,720
So for people who are transitioning,

1539
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,340
trying to get a concept that you have to get people

1540
02:10:42,340 --> 02:10:47,300
stabilized first before you can treat them and treat their mental health or treat their

1541
02:10:47,300 --> 02:10:56,000
primary care issues. So whether those kinds of programs stay, we'll have to see. But all

1542
02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:02,000
that falls under this agreement between the state and the feds and every state about how they're

1543
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,400
going to administer the Medicaid program and their state.

1544
02:11:08,580 --> 02:11:10,640
I just was hoping there'd be adult

1545
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:14,220
beverages for a break when we get done with it.

1546
02:11:14,500 --> 02:11:22,980
Seriously because the whole point of working with Prop 1 was to make sure that our folks

1547
02:11:22,980 --> 02:11:28,380
that need help with mental issues with care act and all of that was to get everybody

1548
02:11:28,380 --> 02:11:31,940
stabilized so that everybody can be a productive citizen.

1549
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:38,080
And now this seems, okay, now I'm going to, I'm

1550
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:42,400
going to

1551
02:11:47,450 --> 02:11:49,230
say that I did not.

1552
02:11:49,230 --> 02:11:56,010
I don't have any role in writing, authorizing, voting for HR1 or the California State Budget.

1553
02:11:56,830 --> 02:11:59,450
I have just the messenger.

1554
02:12:01,190 --> 02:12:12,130
Okay, the last bullet here is, there's something called State Directed Payment Rates and what HR1 said is those rates can't exceed 100% of the Medicare rate.

1555
02:12:12,130 --> 02:12:23,250
And if they do, states have to start reducing those state directed payments by 10% annually.

1556
02:12:25,810 --> 02:12:33,730
So we talked about the states pay managed care organizations rates that are substantially

1557
02:12:33,730 --> 02:12:36,570
below what the Medicare rate is.

1558
02:12:36,570 --> 02:12:42,150
If that was the only money that hospitals and providers got, they wouldn't make it.

1559
02:12:43,330 --> 02:12:47,770
And you see this, particularly in the provider level, when you hear a lot of talk about,

1560
02:12:48,230 --> 02:12:54,510
hey, there's not enough providers that will sign up, because the medical reimbursement rates are too low, that's this conversation.

1561
02:12:55,690 --> 02:13:06,150
The way the state supports primarily in and outpatient hospitals is they pay them these state directed payments,

1562
02:13:06,150 --> 02:13:08,110
which are really supplemental payments.

1563
02:13:10,130 --> 02:13:15,750
And so the biggest risk here, and those rates are probably the supplemental payments,

1564
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:22,270
then bring the total rates like the hospitals get in some cases to be well above the Medicare rate.

1565
02:13:22,670 --> 02:13:27,030
And it is how the hospitals continue to serve those populations and to survive.

1566
02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:38,330
So, for example, in the County Clinics, your family health services clinics are, they

1567
02:13:38,330 --> 02:13:40,510
fall under the managed care of partnership.

1568
02:13:40,970 --> 02:13:46,210
We get clients assigned from partnership, medical is our primary client base and our clinics.

1569
02:13:46,990 --> 02:13:52,750
The clinics are eligible for quality incentive payments.

1570
02:13:52,750 --> 02:13:55,290
That's these are supplemental payments.

1571
02:13:55,950 --> 02:14:01,110
So if the clinics meet certain metrics, then they can draw down additional funding.

1572
02:14:01,750 --> 02:14:06,650
So that's an example that impacts the county directly through our services.

1573
02:14:08,010 --> 02:14:10,850
Hospitals are the biggest recipient of this.

1574
02:14:13,230 --> 02:14:22,630
And the effect of lowering the state directed payments to the Medicare rate will be hundreds of millions of dollars of losses.

1575
02:14:22,630 --> 02:14:32,090
in revenue to hospitals and currently the rate is 6%, it has to be reduced by 2032 I think

1576
02:14:32,090 --> 02:14:35,310
to 3.5%. So

1577
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:43,240
the other thing I wanted to say about this is this is also likely Kelly talked

1578
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:50,920
about emergency care in the emergency room with ambulance services. We're not entirely certain

1579
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:59,520
certain, but I've made inquiries to Paragon into other associations and we also believe that this will impact

1580
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:25,080
Public providers of ambulance services. Right now, those providers receive, they can get these supplemental rates that pay many times what the normal medical rate is, and do exceed Medicare. And this will put a cap on it to the Medicare rate, too, because they're still considered supplemental payments. So, across the board.

1581
02:15:29,650 --> 02:15:32,470
Okay. January 1st, 2027,

1582
02:15:32,470 --> 02:15:36,390
Again, this is one of the areas that we talked about access.

1583
02:15:36,710 --> 02:15:44,370
So California implemented with the state budget that individuals 19 over with unsatisfactory immigration status.

1584
02:15:44,610 --> 02:15:51,750
And again, that's based on the budget pass before the feds, but the state knew what was coming.

1585
02:15:52,850 --> 02:15:57,470
So those individuals will have to pay a monthly premium of $30 a month for medical.

1586
02:15:57,470 --> 02:15:57,670
out.

1587
02:16:00,090 --> 02:16:03,490
We haven't had to do that before. We don't know what the MCAPX will be, but

1588
02:16:03,490 --> 02:16:09,410
medical serves low-income individuals. So, if you have a household for and they each have

1589
02:16:09,410 --> 02:16:13,650
to pay, you have to pay a premium for each of them. We anticipate that there will be a number

1590
02:16:13,650 --> 02:16:20,430
of households that will not be able to afford the cost of this. October 1st of 2027, this

1591
02:16:20,430 --> 02:16:27,870
This is related to what I was just talking about the managed care tax going down from

1592
02:16:27,870 --> 02:16:29,590
6% to 3.5%.

1593
02:16:29,590 --> 02:16:31,630
So this is just letting you know the timing of it.

1594
02:16:32,710 --> 02:16:39,270
October 1st of 2028, the expansion population is going to be assessed.

1595
02:16:39,930 --> 02:16:44,130
Remember, this is, we've got almost 43,000 people in this population.

1596
02:16:44,430 --> 02:16:48,170
They will be assessed, what is this, what we would, you know, those of us on commercial

1597
02:16:48,170 --> 02:16:55,270
insurance would call a copay for every service that they receive and it's we don't again we don't

1598
02:16:55,270 --> 02:16:59,250
have guidance we don't know how it's going to roll out but it's somewhere between between zero

1599
02:16:59,250 --> 02:17:10,510
and $35 per service. So there are some exceptions to certain services pregnancy, pregnancy services

1600
02:17:11,430 --> 02:17:13,870
I don't remember what all of them are but there are some exceptions.

1601
02:17:19,500 --> 02:17:21,680
Just a question because I know

1602
02:17:21,680 --> 02:17:29,980
So there's like Magi, the non-magi medical and for those just going back to the 19 plus because that's a big plus.

1603
02:17:30,880 --> 02:17:41,260
When it is still 62 and over for non-magi because you already have to pay some form of co-pay with the non-magi medical.

1604
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:48,160
Like if you're in the LTC or SNF or anything like that skilled nursing facility long term care facility.

1605
02:17:48,160 --> 02:18:02,240
So generally in Medi-Cal it's a share of costs as opposed to a copay, so this is actually introducing copays for services, if you had a share of costs, that would be on top of that.

1606
02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:13,020
So share of costs, you have to spend and pay up to your share of costs before you become eligible for compensated care, and then it would be on top of that.

1607
02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:15,680
If you did, but you have to meet that every single month,

1608
02:18:16,300 --> 02:18:17,860
if you have that share of cost.

1609
02:18:23,880 --> 02:18:26,160
That's an emphasis on how complicated the program is.

1610
02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:32,000
OK, so I wasn't going to talk about this,

1611
02:18:32,580 --> 02:18:35,820
but I think in the overall picture of insurance,

1612
02:18:36,140 --> 02:18:37,380
so I kind of snuck this in.

1613
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:38,800
It's not in the staff report.

1614
02:18:39,140 --> 02:18:44,630
But I wanted to also talk about some of the things

1615
02:18:44,630 --> 02:18:48,130
that HR1 does just real quickly with covered California.

1616
02:18:48,130 --> 02:18:58,350
So, right now, individuals who are eligible for covered California, they get a tax credit.

1617
02:18:58,890 --> 02:19:06,630
And it is that tax credit for a lot of individuals that makes accessing those insurance plans affordable.

1618
02:19:07,190 --> 02:19:14,510
There exists right now a premium tax credit under the Inflation Reduction Act and a prior act.

1619
02:19:14,510 --> 02:19:15,590
And I can't remember what it was.

1620
02:19:17,650 --> 02:19:20,110
HR1 did not extend that tax credit.

1621
02:19:20,310 --> 02:19:23,390
It goes through December 2025 so they could still do it

1622
02:19:23,390 --> 02:19:24,230
if they wanted to.

1623
02:19:24,450 --> 02:19:29,670
If they do not, then everyone under covered California

1624
02:19:29,670 --> 02:19:33,430
will see approximately a 66% in their premium

1625
02:19:33,740 --> 02:19:35,770
for the California covered plans.

1626
02:19:36,970 --> 02:19:40,330
And the state estimates that about 400,000 individuals

1627
02:19:40,330 --> 02:19:41,390
will lose coverage.

1628
02:19:41,390 --> 02:19:57,030
The Congressional Budget Office, overall, you've probably all read this, estimates that the combined changes to medical and covered California will leave 10 million people uninsured by 2034.

1629
02:19:59,790 --> 02:20:02,430
So, this summary,

1630
02:20:05,300 --> 02:20:15,220
so it is primarily health and social services, we'll see the most significant financial and capacity impacts in terms of service delivery.

1631
02:20:15,220 --> 02:20:24,800
Obviously the critical thing is how many of county residents will see a lack of eligibility

1632
02:20:24,800 --> 02:20:30,840
and lack of access to services but from a county perspective but then other departments

1633
02:20:30,840 --> 02:20:35,480
like we talked about like the Sheriff's Office and probation who are also administering programs

1634
02:20:35,480 --> 02:20:39,620
under CalAIM and are also likely to see impacts.

1635
02:20:39,620 --> 02:20:44,040
Our total fiscal impacts remain unknown, pending the guidance.

1636
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:48,820
That story we started with and we're sticking through it until we get more information.

1637
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:55,600
Under CalFresh, we use the state's estimates to estimate what our impact might be.

1638
02:20:57,040 --> 02:21:00,880
So the state estimates, almost 400,000 will lose benefits.

1639
02:21:00,880 --> 02:21:06,020
If we apply that to our percentage of the statewide enrollment, it means about 38.

1640
02:21:06,020 --> 02:21:11,680
It's between 38 and 39 individuals may lose food benefits locally.

1641
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:15,300
Medi-Cal and Roly, the state estimates 3.4 million.

1642
02:21:16,220 --> 02:21:24,220
For us, proportionately, that would be 33,500 individuals would lose Medi-Cal coverage.

1643
02:21:27,810 --> 02:21:29,690
That's what we know about HR1 today.

1644
02:21:30,110 --> 02:21:36,990
Like I said, as we get more concrete updates, probably not every time we get them because

1645
02:21:36,990 --> 02:21:44,570
are going to start flying in, I imagine, quickly, but if the board wants we can come back

1646
02:21:44,570 --> 02:21:48,090
occasionally with updates and kind of tell you where we are based on some of these different

1647
02:21:48,090 --> 02:21:48,490
timelines.

1648
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:55,500
Definitely, yes, because I always press on that.

1649
02:21:56,060 --> 02:22:02,140
Because they have to have the budget passed by September 30th at the Fed level, unless they

1650
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:08,720
keep doing the CRs, like they'd like doing, and I don't think we've signed off on our budget

1651
02:22:08,720 --> 02:22:22,600
yet in California. So yes, I would like it periodically because I know you guys get this was a lot of work. I understand that and I'm not too terribly depressed because football is going to be starting soon. So I'll be okay.

1652
02:22:24,320 --> 02:22:33,800
But it's a lot but but Debbie as we go through not only bargaining, but as we go through letting our constituents know what will be available or not available.

1653
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:41,220
And what can we do as a Sloan or county society to mitigate whatever we can do to help personally.

1654
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:46,940
I think it's important that we keep on top of what we can keep on top of.

1655
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:49,100
That's my thought anyway.

1656
02:22:50,660 --> 02:22:51,240
What a good.

1657
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:59,960
Yeah, I just wanted to concur that I definitely would like more updates as we learn more information.

1658
02:22:59,960 --> 02:23:05,400
and I'm just taking a back.

1659
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:07,020
I mean, I've heard it before,

1660
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:10,660
but hearing it again with more information included,

1661
02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:16,940
it's just heartening to know that so many individuals

1662
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:19,360
may lose their coverage.

1663
02:23:20,380 --> 02:23:24,820
And I know people are concerned about homelessness now,

1664
02:23:25,880 --> 02:23:28,640
but they haven't seen homelessness like they're going to see

1665
02:23:29,660 --> 02:23:39,580
Once these things go into place, people can't pay the rent because they have to choose to take care of their child, their grandmother, their mother, or themselves.

1666
02:23:42,500 --> 02:23:45,580
So, yeah, it's not a pretty picture, thank you.

1667
02:23:47,450 --> 02:23:50,310
All right, so I don't see any other questions, I do have a couple myself though.

1668
02:23:51,410 --> 02:23:59,930
Are there any clear definitions in the legislation or in the regulation that's been put out by the government?

1669
02:23:59,930 --> 02:24:06,950
government so far about what constitutes a volunteer service or program and what

1670
02:24:06,950 --> 02:24:09,370
constitutes an educational program?

1671
02:24:10,110 --> 02:24:10,790
Not yet.

1672
02:24:10,970 --> 02:24:11,470
Not yet.

1673
02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:20,170
And the state, well, I'm certain look to see if they can invest in sort of programs to try to assist.

1674
02:24:20,590 --> 02:24:24,870
That's what I was thinking, you know, if we had a county volunteer program and a county education program.

1675
02:24:25,030 --> 02:24:29,210
And as we're signing people up for some of these services, we can put them in the program.

1676
02:24:29,210 --> 02:24:42,310
You know, here's your homework for the week, you know, something like that so that we can assure that they're meeting the requirement but can qualify for the program and anything we can do to help keep folks served.

1677
02:24:43,430 --> 02:24:49,670
And then the other thing that I wanted to ask, I wanted to ask of my peers on the board.

1678
02:24:50,270 --> 02:25:03,850
I met, and I know that a couple other board members have met with the CIOs, CIOs of the local hospital, Kaiser and with North Bay, to discuss this very issue.

1679
02:25:04,650 --> 02:25:17,850
And in meeting with them, one of the things that came up is that they would like to, I suggested that we work with them as a county to try and find those places where we can pool resources.

1680
02:25:17,850 --> 02:25:21,610
are we can consolidate resources in order to assure that there are some of these gaps

1681
02:25:21,610 --> 02:25:27,910
maybe closed and we may be able to still help people and can lessen the impact on those hospitals.

1682
02:25:28,350 --> 02:25:32,890
So to that end, I would probably bring back next week if that's okay, the formation

1683
02:25:32,890 --> 02:25:40,170
of an ad hoc committee of two supervisors to be able to work with the directors of those hospitals

1684
02:25:40,670 --> 02:25:43,990
and their CAOs to be able to work on that safety net.

1685
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:50,870
And that's going to require some staff time for that to happen and some input from health and

1686
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:51,550
justice services.

1687
02:25:51,850 --> 02:25:53,710
And I haven't even had a chance to talk to Emory.

1688
02:25:53,810 --> 02:25:56,370
I'm throwing her under the bus right now doing this, but she's giving me a thumbs up.

1689
02:25:57,630 --> 02:26:04,790
So I would just, I would need to have the nodding heads of the board in order to be able to authorize

1690
02:26:04,790 --> 02:26:06,770
and use staff for that purpose.

1691
02:26:07,330 --> 02:26:09,770
So, would there be support on the board for that?

1692
02:26:16,210 --> 02:26:21,010
Okay, all right. Thank you very much for that. All right. With that Supervisor Brown.

1693
02:26:25,500 --> 02:26:30,980
Talked about that people could go to school and get their GRE, and I know the libraries

1694
02:26:30,980 --> 02:26:37,320
do offer a free program to get your GRE. So that might be, I'm just throwing out places

1695
02:26:37,320 --> 02:26:42,500
where you can go get education that was relatively inexpensive. And the other thing with

1696
02:26:42,500 --> 02:26:48,740
anything with education if you know we might want to look and see what might be out there

1697
02:26:48,740 --> 02:26:53,740
in terms of the community college and or workforce development. I see them in the package

1698
02:26:53,740 --> 02:27:01,520
to help to people could improve what they need to do, but they also can count that as time.

1699
02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:06,740
Yeah and we have reached out to workforce development board and it will be engaging with

1700
02:27:06,740 --> 02:27:16,560
Yeah, nonprofits. Right. Yeah, the key though is not to duplicate and the key is to have one person who kind of knows what's going on.

1701
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:26,100
So that we can direct traffic to go what needs to be done. So you don't waste any time because the other thing would be is travel going to be part of those eight hours a day.

1702
02:27:26,500 --> 02:27:31,420
I mean, I don't know and how are you going to get there? So whatever we can do zoom wise.

1703
02:27:31,420 --> 02:27:41,820
So, I see this as a not only a challenge, but how do I sleep at night figuring out what we can do to make this all happen?

1704
02:27:43,300 --> 02:27:53,180
And so, but yeah, I guess one could say that this is what happens when people vote.

1705
02:27:53,340 --> 02:27:54,180
I'll let it go that way.

1706
02:27:56,460 --> 02:27:58,440
All right. Supervisor James.

1707
02:28:00,110 --> 02:28:06,550
I'm just back to your point in regards to the hospital council if it can also include

1708
02:28:06,550 --> 02:28:13,510
Torrell University as they offer so yeah they're part of the hospital council the

1709
02:28:13,510 --> 02:28:20,490
setter, advances, Kaiser and North Bay but including Torrell University in that conversation

1710
02:28:20,900 --> 02:28:21,510
as well.

1711
02:28:21,790 --> 02:28:28,250
And then just going back to the ABOD exemptions, the ABOD exemptions that includes like folks

1712
02:28:28,250 --> 02:28:34,890
with children under it was waived, were folks with children under 14 or is it 18? I'm sorry.

1713
02:28:34,990 --> 02:28:41,470
14, 14 now. 14 and also waived like the veteran, veteran exemption or those are still.

1714
02:28:41,550 --> 02:28:47,470
Those assumptions were removed for homeless veterans and those coming out of foster care. So those

1715
02:28:47,470 --> 02:28:55,710
will not be exemptions moving forward. But we will still have the parents of caregivers of children

1716
02:28:55,710 --> 02:29:04,650
and under 14 and also they're over 64, okay, because they used to be 55, right, okay, thank you.

1717
02:29:05,990 --> 02:29:08,330
All right, I see no more questions on that item.

1718
02:29:09,410 --> 02:29:12,450
Thank you for a lot of hard work putting this together.

1719
02:29:12,990 --> 02:29:13,610
Oh, yes.

1720
02:29:13,870 --> 02:29:17,870
Do we do have a potential online comment from the public?

1721
02:29:19,130 --> 02:29:19,890
Caller on the line.

1722
02:29:19,890 --> 02:29:24,510
If you're wishing to speak on agenda item number 23, will you please press star three to raise your hand?

1723
02:29:25,050 --> 02:29:31,130
Caller on the line with the number ending in 1-1 if you wish to speak on agenda item number 23, please raise your hand.

1724
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:37,400
Give me a little more.

1725
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:45,160
Just out of curiosity. Caller on the line, if you wish to speak on agenda item number 26, please press star 3 to raise your hand.

1726
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:55,080
Okay, when we are at agenda item 26, we will call you.

1727
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:58,040
Thank you very much. We're going to go ahead and have you lower your hand.

1728
02:29:58,040 --> 02:29:59,980
And a lot of folks want to talk.

1729
02:30:04,020 --> 02:30:07,220
All right, with that, Madam Clerk, we're on item 24.

1730
02:30:15,850 --> 02:30:41,450
Conducted public hearing required by the Taxant Equity Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, Tefra, and consider adopting a resolution of proving the issuance of revenue bonds by the California Municipal Finance Authority. In an amount not to exceed $20 million for the purpose of financing and or refinancing certain costs of the acquisition, construction, expansion, remodeling, renovation, furnishing, equipping, and or improvement.

1731
02:30:41,450 --> 02:30:46,530
of the health facilities, including real estate, owned and operated by Health Corps 2460,

1732
02:30:47,210 --> 02:30:51,990
Hillborne Fairfield LLC, Health Corps 2458, Hillborne Fairfield LLC,

1733
02:30:52,710 --> 02:30:56,190
and Health Corps Rheavista LLC, collectively the borrowers and

1734
02:30:56,190 --> 02:31:00,630
least to North Bay Group and or North Bay Corporation located within Salano County.

1735
02:31:02,540 --> 02:31:05,960
Good morning, Chair and members of the board.

1736
02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:10,060
My name is Denise Dicks, I am the Assistant Treasurer Tax Collector, County Clerk.

1737
02:31:10,060 --> 02:31:19,700
We are here today to conduct a public hearing in accordance with the Tax and Equity Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 or Tefra.

1738
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:27,240
And also to seek your approval for the issuance of a $20 million in tax exempt bonds.

1739
02:31:27,660 --> 02:31:35,760
To clarify Salano County is not issuing these bonds, the bonds will be issued by California Municipal Finance Authority, CMFA.

1740
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:48,520
The project is the sole responsibility of the borrowers and the county will bear no financial, legal, moral obligation, liability, or responsibility for either the project or the repayment of the bonds.

1741
02:31:49,240 --> 02:32:03,120
The purpose of this tougher hearing is to provide an opportunity for the public to comment regarding the issuance of the tax exempt funds for the project undertaken by a 501-C3 nonprofit organization.

1742
02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:11,980
The borrowing entity is the health core foundation which will use the bond proceeds to finance

1743
02:32:11,980 --> 02:32:16,580
the acquisition of four buildings. Three of them are located in Solano County, one

1744
02:32:16,580 --> 02:32:21,280
is in City of Winters. These facilities will be leased to North

1745
02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:27,140
Bay Corp for the use of primary care and urgent care centers as well as a cardiac center.

1746
02:32:27,140 --> 02:32:40,220
The properties in Solano County include 2458 Hillborne in Fairfield, 2460 Hillborne in Fairfield, and 327 Main Street in Real Vista.

1747
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:47,380
At this time, I respectfully request that the board conduct the public hearing and approve the issuance of these bonds.

1748
02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:52,580
I also have representatives from North Bay and CMFA if you have additional questions.

1749
02:32:53,280 --> 02:32:56,580
All right, thank you before I open the public hearing to the board of any questions.

1750
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:04,540
All right, so that I will open the public hearing and then they can come down and speak.

1751
02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:08,440
So I'll officially open that public hearing.

1752
02:33:08,900 --> 02:33:12,800
I'll let them come down and speak and then I have one speaker card for Chris Matthews.

1753
02:33:12,980 --> 02:33:15,720
Oh, one of the representatives is my speaker.

1754
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:23,040
Good afternoon.

1755
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:25,380
My name is Chris Matthews.

1756
02:33:25,380 --> 02:33:43,320
I'm a system vice president for real estate and government affairs, and if it's all right just based on the last presentation, I wanted to make just a couple quick comments about North Bay.

1757
02:33:44,580 --> 02:33:55,520
76% of our patients are either medical, Medicare, Medicaid, and we appreciate that.

1758
02:33:57,340 --> 02:34:04,180
We're lucky, our aspiration this year is to be about 2% above our cost.

1759
02:34:05,180 --> 02:34:13,620
So a slight variation in all these reimbursements that you've just heard about makes a big impact

1760
02:34:13,620 --> 02:34:14,820
on our bottom line.

1761
02:34:15,900 --> 02:34:24,340
And this initiative, what we're trying to do is to expand our ambulatory service network

1762
02:34:24,340 --> 02:34:32,980
work so that we're within 15 minutes of every patient base in Solano County for urgent care.

1763
02:34:34,480 --> 02:34:41,480
And we're also expanding our cardiac treatment, which is an area of emphasis for us.

1764
02:34:42,480 --> 02:34:48,080
And then just one other quick comment, if I might make, there were several questions and

1765
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:57,260
comments about the emergency care and especially how that might relate to undocumented patients.

1766
02:34:58,480 --> 02:35:04,180
So as I think you all understand, but just to re-emphasize to the public as well,

1767
02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:16,700
whenever anyone presents to the emergency room, we provide expert care without regard to whether they compare or not.

1768
02:35:16,700 --> 02:35:33,980
And we, you know, currently for those covered, that had been covered, undocumented, and otherwise we receive a reimbursement that is below our cost to provide that care.

1769
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:46,120
The change that will happen now with these new regulations are that instead of receiving a modicum of that cost,

1770
02:35:46,120 --> 02:35:53,040
We'll receive nothing at all, and so it will be an increasing burden on us as an health

1771
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:53,520
system.

1772
02:35:54,560 --> 02:36:00,400
So sorry to belabor that point, but I wanted to just bring it up given the last presentation.

1773
02:36:00,780 --> 02:36:08,000
Are there any other questions that I might address with regards to the issue at hand on this

1774
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:08,280
moment?

1775
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:08,860
We

1776
02:36:11,960 --> 02:36:19,840
can do the question after the public hearing and I know I know I now have one other card on this from Ms. Cully.

1777
02:36:20,380 --> 02:36:25,310
Well, this gentleman right here, yes, I have one more.

1778
02:36:25,310 --> 02:36:28,450
Oh, okay, we've got one more person, I've already, I didn't have a card for him.

1779
02:36:28,670 --> 02:36:33,730
Oh, no, I'm a representative from the bond issuer, the California Municipal Finance Authority.

1780
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:35,890
He should have just had a dollar sign on.

1781
02:36:38,930 --> 02:36:42,150
Just brief intro, my name is Jared Suzuki.

1782
02:36:42,150 --> 02:37:12,130
The key, the California Municipal Finance Authority or CMFA is a joint powers authority that was formed in 2004 to assist local governments, businesses and nonprofit organizations with the issuance of both taxable and tax exempt debt to fund projects such as these, and I would just like to reiterate the debt that the CMFA is issuing is not a responsibility of the county and that the county has no obligation financially in the repayment of this debt.

1783
02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:15,330
And, yeah, I will be available for any questions.

1784
02:37:17,690 --> 02:37:18,570
Seeing none.

1785
02:37:19,030 --> 02:37:19,510
Yes?

1786
02:37:19,970 --> 02:37:24,490
Well, I'm not okay for stuff, but I'm not sure are we going to wait till we have the public.

1787
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:25,450
We're in the middle of the public.

1788
02:37:25,610 --> 02:37:27,450
Okay, okay, all right, so here's my question.

1789
02:37:28,170 --> 02:37:34,470
A certain entity that somebody talked about today, did they not help you with something

1790
02:37:34,470 --> 02:37:38,310
that was happening in Reavista to put a urgent care?

1791
02:37:38,310 --> 02:37:38,410
Councillor?

1792
02:37:39,490 --> 02:37:44,850
California forever bought both winters and real vista buildings.

1793
02:37:46,210 --> 02:37:53,670
We have been improving those at a substantial cost, the one in real vista, basically had

1794
02:37:53,670 --> 02:37:58,870
to be completely rebuilt because of structural issues.

1795
02:37:58,870 --> 02:38:11,470
And this is paying off the amount that California forever purchased the buildings for, and our cost to improve them.

1796
02:38:13,070 --> 02:38:21,090
So, we were paying rent to California forever under a normal lease agreement.

1797
02:38:21,610 --> 02:38:28,210
And that lease agreement provided a provision for us to buy them out.

1798
02:38:28,210 --> 02:38:31,990
and we're able to do that and lower our cost of occupancy.

1799
02:38:33,090 --> 02:38:40,650
Are there finger prints going to be involved in what the transaction that we're dealing with possibly today?

1800
02:38:43,690 --> 02:38:45,950
By finger prints, I'm not sure.

1801
02:38:46,070 --> 02:38:49,790
Well, they, I mean, okay, how far can I go County Council on?

1802
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:54,610
Today's action is about the Tefra.

1803
02:38:54,610 --> 02:38:58,970
I mean, if you have issues with the use of the funds, you can proceed with that.

1804
02:38:59,090 --> 02:39:04,950
Okay, okay, I do because these guys are billionaires, and so I'm just kind of curious

1805
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:11,850
as to why they're not picking up the tab, and if it's not the, I mean, so let me see if I

1806
02:39:11,850 --> 02:39:12,470
understand this correctly.

1807
02:39:12,930 --> 02:39:14,930
The county is like the loan agent?

1808
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:18,030
No, so why are they coming to us?

1809
02:39:18,170 --> 02:39:19,570
I apologize, I'm not sure.

1810
02:39:21,410 --> 02:39:22,090
Okay,

1811
02:39:28,650 --> 02:39:33,210
I believe the financing authority can answer your question.

1812
02:39:33,370 --> 02:39:34,210
Okay, thank you.

1813
02:39:34,230 --> 02:39:45,230
Yes, per the Tefer Act, whenever there is a proposed tax exempt financing, a public hearing is held in the jurisdiction where the financing, the proposed financing takes place.

1814
02:39:46,090 --> 02:39:51,970
So today we are here to hold the public hearing and approve the resolution,

1815
02:39:52,130 --> 02:39:54,530
approving the financing, the issuing of the bonds.

1816
02:39:55,130 --> 02:39:59,230
Okay, so we're just giving the people blessing that they can get it as a tax write-off.

1817
02:40:00,630 --> 02:40:03,510
The tax exempt status of the bonds, correct?

1818
02:40:04,350 --> 02:40:08,970
Well, yeah, but okay, but it sounds like okay, all right, okay, okay.

1819
02:40:11,030 --> 02:40:15,830
There's no taxes to write off, but that, but because if we agree, then there's no

1820
02:40:15,830 --> 02:40:16,710
taxes to write off.

1821
02:40:16,710 --> 02:40:19,710
If we disagreed, then they would have to get the funding somewhere else and might

1822
02:40:19,710 --> 02:40:20,510
up to pay taxes.

1823
02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:21,430
Yes, no?

1824
02:40:22,250 --> 02:40:22,830
I'm very.

1825
02:40:23,170 --> 02:40:31,590
The result would be our cost of capital would go up because the bondholders are the ones

1826
02:40:31,590 --> 02:40:38,570
that enjoy the tax benefits of a tax-exempt bond.

1827
02:40:39,030 --> 02:40:39,310
Okay.

1828
02:40:40,010 --> 02:40:44,070
You can tell I don't have enough money as a retired teacher to even figure this all out.

1829
02:40:44,390 --> 02:40:52,030
If they get the bond issued to them, North Bay gets to buy the buildings from California

1830
02:40:52,030 --> 02:40:54,650
forever, so then they own them instead of California forever.

1831
02:40:55,150 --> 02:41:00,890
And then they get to pay off all the improvements that were made on the building.

1832
02:41:00,890 --> 02:41:02,210
That's what those bonds do.

1833
02:41:02,530 --> 02:41:13,010
Okay, so the people that you worked with could give you all the money that you needed,

1834
02:41:13,010 --> 02:41:14,850
but apparently they chose not to.

1835
02:41:15,410 --> 02:41:17,130
So that's why we're doing this.

1836
02:41:18,530 --> 02:41:19,690
That's why they're doing this.

1837
02:41:19,770 --> 02:41:21,130
That's why North Bay is doing this.

1838
02:41:21,130 --> 02:41:21,910
We're doing a scene they can.

1839
02:41:22,150 --> 02:41:23,730
Okay, we're giving the people a blessing.

1840
02:41:23,990 --> 02:41:24,170
Okay.

1841
02:41:24,650 --> 02:41:29,510
I just was trying to figure out when you're a billionaire why you're not helping more to the

1842
02:41:29,510 --> 02:41:29,970
community.

1843
02:41:29,970 --> 02:41:42,070
Sorry, thank you for letting me park in your parking lot the other day, but you know, that's that it was not really clear with all the nomenclature here and I could read it till the cows come home and still wouldn't get it.

1844
02:41:42,910 --> 02:41:59,150
All right, I just want to follow up with another question. So the issuance of the funds would allow you to become have full autonomy of the

1845
02:41:59,150 --> 02:42:09,790
buildings, which when I'm trying to say is once you issue the bonds, then there's a pay off to,

1846
02:42:11,030 --> 02:42:13,190
I guess, California forever.

1847
02:42:13,490 --> 02:42:24,230
And then North Bay now is free and clear in a full ownership of the facilities.

1848
02:42:24,230 --> 02:42:35,130
Mostly right, so there are three buildings with three different owners, one of which is California forever in Rio Vista.

1849
02:42:35,820 --> 02:42:41,190
They get paid back the amount that they paid to buy the building.

1850
02:42:42,510 --> 02:42:53,510
The other two owners were buying, but we're entering into what's called a structural lease program.

1851
02:42:53,510 --> 02:43:06,630
where there's a third party that's a tax exempt of 503C foundation in Colorado that will be the owner of the building and will be the tenant.

1852
02:43:06,930 --> 02:43:14,510
However, we have the rights to buy it back at the termination of the lease.

1853
02:43:14,790 --> 02:43:22,770
So it's like buying it with debt only we're using this structure to lower our cost of capital,

1854
02:43:22,770 --> 02:43:31,350
to help us have more resources in order to do what you just heard, the last half hour, we'll have to do.

1855
02:43:31,910 --> 02:43:50,050
Four times in a head step away, so I missed some of the conversation, but okay, all right, so I get to say there's three different entities, you're just trying to, we're just here to say, yes, they can get the bonds.

1856
02:43:50,050 --> 02:43:54,770
So that's all to the general public. How does that work?

1857
02:43:54,970 --> 02:43:58,290
The FMA is going to fund those bonds.

1858
02:44:00,570 --> 02:44:03,690
Yeah, this has nothing to do with the county at all.

1859
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:06,410
Okay. We're just, yeah, exactly.

1860
02:44:09,260 --> 02:44:13,280
The tax exemption is for North Bay, right?

1861
02:44:13,640 --> 02:44:14,520
Bond holders.

1862
02:44:14,900 --> 02:44:15,920
With the bond holders.

1863
02:44:18,590 --> 02:44:20,590
I'm going to say what would you want?

1864
02:44:21,810 --> 02:44:21,910
What?

1865
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:24,710
They don't have to pay taxes on the interest money they get back.

1866
02:44:30,390 --> 02:44:33,690
Okay, I have clear understanding now.

1867
02:44:34,210 --> 02:44:40,210
All right, with that, I have no more comments from the board.

1868
02:44:41,050 --> 02:44:42,590
We get to hear from the actual public.

1869
02:44:43,090 --> 02:44:45,670
And so Miss Colley.

1870
02:44:45,670 --> 02:44:46,270
Board

1871
02:44:55,260 --> 02:44:57,040
Chair, nice to see you.

1872
02:44:57,700 --> 02:44:59,980
I'm actually very concerned.

1873
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,500
I'm concerned about this more than I thought. I didn't really understand based on the agenda that I read. It feels and it smells a little bit like money funneling through these bonds. Through this 501C3 in Colorado. I feel like the public needs to understand before you give a tax exemption to these bond holders.

1874
02:45:29,500 --> 02:45:40,320
and this 501-C3 corporation, we need to know a little bit more about these bond holders and 501-C3 organization that's out of state.

1875
02:45:40,580 --> 02:45:40,920
Thank you.

1876
02:45:45,960 --> 02:45:59,440
If I can clarify again, so California and the financing authority was created as a JPA to allow for and to structure this, to encourage that there would be certain facilities that could be funded.

1877
02:45:59,440 --> 02:46:01,840
that if the board recalls, you did this to Tepper Herring,

1878
02:46:02,120 --> 02:46:03,580
I reckon if I'm wrong, and Denise,

1879
02:46:03,640 --> 02:46:05,460
the last one was with regards to ecology.

1880
02:46:06,520 --> 02:46:09,300
So these come before you often in terms of

1881
02:46:09,300 --> 02:46:12,020
a corporation that is located or situated here

1882
02:46:12,020 --> 02:46:14,780
wants to build a facility in this area.

1883
02:46:17,160 --> 02:46:20,280
We did it something different, but a very similar situation

1884
02:46:20,280 --> 02:46:24,260
is that the county issued bonds, tax exempt bonds,

1885
02:46:24,580 --> 02:46:29,200
through a separate entity, the Solano County facilities

1886
02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:34,740
corporation of which this board is the board of that. The facility corporation owns the

1887
02:46:34,740 --> 02:46:40,720
building and then issues the bonds. You then pay them rent under this structure that

1888
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:46,540
is a tax exempt bond that allowed us to issue, to receive the capital, to construct it at

1889
02:46:46,540 --> 02:46:52,260
a lower cost. The exact same thing here. You have no jurisdiction. You do not have say over

1890
02:46:52,260 --> 02:46:57,320
how North Bay says, I want to structure my buildings. You're saying that it is a public

1891
02:46:57,320 --> 02:47:01,700
benefit associated with what they're going to be doing in this environment, in this county,

1892
02:47:02,020 --> 02:47:06,880
and by your action you are giving the people blessing to allow them to move forward with the

1893
02:47:06,880 --> 02:47:12,840
financing authority to issue those bonds. Otherwise, we have a partner here, which you just

1894
02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:18,500
took action to bring back with regards to their health care service. They are trying to improve

1895
02:47:18,500 --> 02:47:24,260
their buildings. Yes, it happens that California forever happened to buy the one in Reavista,

1896
02:47:24,260 --> 02:47:33,640
And I believe in Winters as well, and North Bay is trying to structure their operations to buy their building and stop paying rent, right?

1897
02:47:34,020 --> 02:47:42,640
So that's what they're trying to do, whether or not you like the entity or not, that is irrelevant for what they're trying to do for purposes of their own finances.

1898
02:47:43,140 --> 02:47:44,240
I hope that answers the question.

1899
02:47:51,820 --> 02:47:58,980
I'm sorry, I just thought that they had gifted them the buildings and the

1900
02:47:58,980 --> 02:48:07,600
revision winters because that's what I'm saying is that they could and they

1901
02:48:07,600 --> 02:48:10,920
wouldn't even have to borrow whatever I can to remember the amount of money at

1902
02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:15,080
this stage in the game. That was I was trying to walk that fine line because

1903
02:48:15,080 --> 02:48:19,640
everybody kind of knows where I feel about those folks but I just you know but I

1904
02:48:19,640 --> 02:48:34,820
I understand now what the premises it didn't make sense to me before, but I've never understood why if you're a 501c3, whatever that nonprofit is in Colorado, why you need another tax status status.

1905
02:48:34,900 --> 02:48:45,440
But you know what, thank you, you're right, I have no say over how the toilet being built, it does not all make the smell test as far as I'm concerned, but it is what it is.

1906
02:48:45,440 --> 02:48:50,840
So I have no more public comment. I will close the public hearing on this take it back in the hands of the board and

1907
02:49:01,900 --> 02:49:07,000
Right as you were closing the public hearing we did have. Oh, nope, they hung up never mind. Thank you, sir

1908
02:49:07,780 --> 02:49:11,060
All right, so go ahead supervisor. I'm sorry. You were in a row. Yes,

1909
02:49:13,170 --> 02:49:14,250
it's too approved

1910
02:49:15,730 --> 02:49:17,430
Approved the issuance of the bonds

1911
02:49:18,270 --> 02:49:19,610
Anything else in that action

1912
02:49:21,390 --> 02:49:22,190
And yes,

1913
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:29,490
it was to approve the issuance of the bonds and conduct the public hearing.

1914
02:49:30,050 --> 02:49:31,610
We're going to end up to a resolution.

1915
02:49:32,510 --> 02:49:33,210
That's my motion.

1916
02:49:34,050 --> 02:49:35,910
All right, so we have a motion. Do we have a second?

1917
02:49:36,410 --> 02:49:36,810
Second.

1918
02:49:37,170 --> 02:49:38,930
You have a motion in a second, please vote.

1919
02:49:44,660 --> 02:49:46,480
It's ordered by a vote of 5-0.

1920
02:49:49,080 --> 02:49:49,840
Thank you very much.

1921
02:49:49,940 --> 02:49:50,900
Thank you for coming on.

1922
02:49:51,920 --> 02:49:54,600
Thanks for being patient while you explained it.

1923
02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:01,960
I did, too.

1924
02:50:02,340 --> 02:50:02,480
All

1925
02:50:07,630 --> 02:50:09,890
right, with that, Madam Clerk, item 25, please.

1926
02:50:09,890 --> 02:50:10,050
Please.

1927
02:50:10,330 --> 02:50:17,790
In that notice, public hearing to consider approving minor subdivision application, MS-2501,

1928
02:50:17,930 --> 02:50:25,650
by Darlene Foon-Lum, trustee of the Darlene F-Lum trust dated April 3rd, 2024, and Charles

1929
02:50:25,650 --> 02:50:32,490
F-Lum family limited partnership to subdivide a 41.17 acre property under land conservation contract

1930
02:50:32,490 --> 02:50:39,130
number 1199 into two parcels of 21.15 and 20.02 acres.

1931
02:50:39,810 --> 02:50:54,570
Located along Rockville Road, one mile west of the city of Fairfield, within the Sassoon Valley Agriculture AS320 Zoning District, APN's 0-0-0-2-7-0-0-3-0-1-5-0, and 0-0-0-2-7-2-5-1-2-8-0.

1932
02:50:54,570 --> 02:51:08,910
So, the project is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act, pursuant to Section 15061B3 of the Sequel Guidelines because it has been determined that the proposed project will not have the potential to cause a significant effect on the environment.

1933
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:18,580
Good morning, James B is the Director of Resource Management, with me is Eric Goldberg, he's a Senior Planner, and he'll be walking you through the presentation.

1934
02:51:19,000 --> 02:51:23,820
Before I get started, I'll try to question the reason it's before us, because it's a Williamson Act contract.

1935
02:51:23,820 --> 02:51:24,380
Correct.

1936
02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:28,180
Had it not had the contract on it, this would have been handled as the planning commission.

1937
02:51:28,520 --> 02:51:28,800
Correct.

1938
02:51:29,320 --> 02:51:29,500
Okay.

1939
02:51:31,740 --> 02:51:32,060
All right.

1940
02:51:32,260 --> 02:51:36,000
Good morning, Eric Wilberg, Senior Planner with Department of Resource Management.

1941
02:51:36,260 --> 02:51:38,180
So I just have a quick slideshow of this project.

1942
02:51:38,420 --> 02:51:45,520
It's a minor subdivision, a two lot split for property located along Rockfield Road about

1943
02:51:45,520 --> 02:51:47,900
a mile just outside of Fairfield.

1944
02:51:49,560 --> 02:51:54,700
It's a 41-acre parcel being split into a 21 and a 20-acre lot.

1945
02:51:56,240 --> 02:52:02,180
Just some past board actions that occurred recently, oh, here's a summary, sorry, skip

1946
02:52:02,180 --> 02:52:02,480
ahead.

1947
02:52:03,620 --> 02:52:07,680
Yes, a 41.17-acre lot currently under Ag production.

1948
02:52:08,220 --> 02:52:16,340
It's going to result in a 21.15-acre and a 20.02-acre parcels for state planning purposes

1949
02:52:16,340 --> 02:52:24,980
for the LUM family, and the reason the items before the board today is because there's an existing Williamson Act contract, number 1199,

1950
02:52:26,360 --> 02:52:33,960
after if the subdivision would be approved today, that contract remains in place as is currently.

1951
02:52:36,830 --> 02:52:42,430
So just some past actions, there's a approved view from it on the southern portion of the property.

1952
02:52:42,430 --> 02:52:47,070
It's a large custom-crushed winery for E&C winery.

1953
02:52:47,770 --> 02:52:53,070
Development of the winery is not commenced yet, but that use permit remains in place.

1954
02:52:54,270 --> 02:53:00,290
There's also recently June of last year this board approved a lot-line adjustment between

1955
02:53:00,290 --> 02:53:02,970
the LUM property and the neighboring property owner.

1956
02:53:04,210 --> 02:53:10,550
That approval was valid for the one-year term, but on June 4th of this year, that approval

1957
02:53:10,550 --> 02:53:17,930
will expire, do the lack of the certificate of compliance being recorded, which would

1958
02:53:17,930 --> 02:53:19,630
have finalized that lot line adjustment.

1959
02:53:24,470 --> 02:53:31,230
Right, so a certificate of compliance would be the next step after a lot line adjustment

1960
02:53:31,230 --> 02:53:37,610
is approved, and that gets recorded on the property, and that kind of memorializes that lot

1961
02:53:37,610 --> 02:53:42,750
line approval, and that failed to record, so that action is now null and void.

1962
02:53:42,750 --> 02:53:43,650
I

1963
02:53:46,140 --> 02:53:48,720
believe that property owner was here this morning.

1964
02:53:48,860 --> 02:53:58,760
I don't know if he's stuck around, but I think there is some issue with it, with the sale of that lot, or that acreage is my understanding.

1965
02:53:59,520 --> 02:53:59,640
Okay.

1966
02:54:04,700 --> 02:54:07,400
Here's just a look at the existing Williamson Act contract.

1967
02:54:07,940 --> 02:54:11,380
Again, it's not the contract 1199 is not changing.

1968
02:54:11,580 --> 02:54:16,720
It covers the entire loan property and it would cover the two proposed lots.

1969
02:54:21,440 --> 02:54:24,760
It's kind of hard to see at this scale, but this is the tentative parcel map.

1970
02:54:25,280 --> 02:54:30,980
Basically two lots half of the acreage north of Rockville Road and the other half south of the road.

1971
02:54:31,820 --> 02:54:38,000
The two lots have frontage along Rockville and direct access to the county road.

1972
02:54:38,700 --> 02:54:41,500
Both parcels are undeveloped at this time.

1973
02:54:42,400 --> 02:54:47,100
At the time of development should it occur in the future, on-site domestic water wells.

1974
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:55,020
and private septic systems will be installed and currently the property in both

1975
02:54:55,020 --> 02:54:59,740
proposed lots would be serviced by Slano irrigation district for ag water

1976
02:54:59,740 --> 02:55:00,260
purposes.

1977
02:55:03,860 --> 02:55:08,280
In terms of consistency, the properties general plan designation is

1978
02:55:08,280 --> 02:55:13,580
agriculture. It's also under the Sassoon Valley Ag region which is a 20 acre minimum

1979
02:55:13,580 --> 02:55:18,720
parcel size. The property is zoned ASV-20 Sassoon Valley agriculture with the

1980
02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:25,580
the 20 acre minimum, both proposed lots exceed those minimum acreages, there's a minimum

1981
02:55:25,580 --> 02:55:31,640
10 acre requirement for prime farmland for any lots under contract, both proposed lots

1982
02:55:31,640 --> 02:55:38,300
exceed that 10 acre minimum, and in terms of environmental review or CEQA, there's no proposed

1983
02:55:38,300 --> 02:55:44,940
physical changes to the environment with this project. The property would remain in agricultural

1984
02:55:44,940 --> 02:55:51,740
cultural production and qualifies for the CEQA guideline exemption 15061.

1985
02:55:55,950 --> 02:56:00,670
So staff's recommendation is to, after conduct of the public hearing, it will be to adopt

1986
02:56:00,670 --> 02:56:08,150
the resolution effectively approving minor subdivision application, MS-25-01.

1987
02:56:09,610 --> 02:56:12,370
Monica, do you want to speak before or after public hearing?

1988
02:56:12,570 --> 02:56:16,470
No, just a real quick question, because when I was looking this over, I thought we had already

1989
02:56:16,470 --> 02:56:23,690
done this. So it sounds like because something didn't get, since there wasn't the time

1990
02:56:23,690 --> 02:56:27,690
issue of a compliance, something along those lines didn't happen. So we're just

1991
02:56:28,330 --> 02:56:32,210
redoing basically kind of like a name, because we already voted on this, right?

1992
02:56:32,270 --> 02:56:33,190
When we divided it.

1993
02:56:33,890 --> 02:56:37,550
So this action is a little different. The prior was a lot land adjustment, which wasn't

1994
02:56:37,550 --> 02:56:42,390
going to create a new lot, but it was going to allow the 20 acre to merge with, I believe

1995
02:56:42,390 --> 02:56:43,470
Is the Vane's property?

1996
02:56:43,710 --> 02:56:43,890
Yeah.

1997
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:47,850
This action would create a new, stand alone, buildable lot.

1998
02:56:48,850 --> 02:56:52,010
So not much of a difference, really, in my mind, anyway.

1999
02:56:52,550 --> 02:56:54,410
Okay, all right, just parties have changed.

2000
02:56:54,690 --> 02:56:56,930
I think the previous day, they were trying to make an agreement,

2001
02:56:56,930 --> 02:57:00,550
fell through, so now they're re-structuring what they're doing

2002
02:57:00,550 --> 02:57:02,770
for state planning purposes, and they're doing this method now.

2003
02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:03,290
Okay.

2004
02:57:03,970 --> 02:57:04,510
All right.

2005
02:57:05,470 --> 02:57:08,190
So you know the questions from the board, so I'll open the public hearing.

2006
02:57:08,810 --> 02:57:10,870
I have no comment cards on this item.

2007
02:57:11,410 --> 02:57:12,890
Anybody online for this item?

2008
02:57:32,270 --> 02:57:34,890
All right, so seeing none, I will close the public hearing.

2009
02:57:35,430 --> 02:57:39,470
Take it back in the hands of the board, and I would be looking for a motion on this item.

2010
02:57:40,950 --> 02:57:41,910
I'll make the motion.

2011
02:57:42,190 --> 02:57:42,830
I'll make the motion.

2012
02:57:43,530 --> 02:57:44,650
We got a motion in a second.

2013
02:57:56,300 --> 02:57:57,780
So ordered by lit of 5-0.

2014
02:57:58,640 --> 02:57:59,240
Thank you.

2015
02:58:02,140 --> 02:58:02,780
Thank you.

2016
02:58:04,560 --> 02:58:11,720
And so before we start on item 26, it has reached noon o'clock, and this is going to be quite an item.

2017
02:58:13,160 --> 02:58:19,460
I think I'm going to ask for, wait, 10 minute, 15 minute, 15 minute recess for everybody.

2018
02:58:25,440 --> 02:58:26,800
You are bad.

2019
02:58:50,280 --> 02:58:52,500
Hold a notice of the caring to consider and

2020
02:58:52,500 --> 02:58:57,060
then ending interim ordinance number 2024, 1852, UE,

2021
02:58:57,720 --> 02:59:03,140
limiting new commercial battery energy storage systems within the unincorporated territory of the county of Salano.

2022
02:59:03,540 --> 02:59:04,780
Forfisfo is required.

2023
02:59:05,260 --> 02:59:08,640
The proposed amendment is not subject to the California Environmental Quality Act.

2024
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:19,580
to pursuant section 15060C2 and exempt under sections 15061B315307 and 1508 of the SQL guidelines.

2025
02:59:28,880 --> 02:59:29,520
We're good.

2026
02:59:30,260 --> 02:59:35,620
Good afternoon, James Music, Director of Resource Management with me is our associate planner,

2027
02:59:35,620 --> 02:59:42,060
Eric Haxtram, and before I turn it over to him to go through this, we're considering the work with

2028
02:59:42,060 --> 02:59:44,520
regards to the interim urgency ordinance.

2029
02:59:44,520 --> 02:59:51,800
We took, we met with you last meeting, we took a lot of input and what we wanted to do is get back and

2030
02:59:51,800 --> 02:59:57,700
bring forth provisions that allow where we got consensus on where we can allow these types of uses.

2031
02:59:57,700 --> 02:59:59,880
And so today is about bringing that forward.

2032
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,840
So we can continue to make progress. It doesn't preclude what we're going to be doing as far as the ultimate ordinance. We'll continue to work on that. This is just a step with the interim to bring forth things that areas where we feel that they can be allowed and go from there. So with that, I'm going to turn to Eric and take the presentation. Thank you, James. Hello, supervisors. Hello, chair. Hello, my name is Eric Hygstrom. I'm an associate planner with resource management. So to give a summary of how we got today, today, where we are with battery energy storage, the county first received

2033
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:35,000
an application from next era to build the Corby Project in December of 2023.

2034
03:00:35,660 --> 03:00:40,520
After a reading of our zoning code, we identified that these facilities would be classified as

2035
03:00:40,520 --> 03:00:45,220
utilities infrastructure outside the right of way with not many standards that address the public

2036
03:00:45,220 --> 03:00:51,100
health and safety risks associated with these systems. The board then approved an interim ordinance

2037
03:00:51,100 --> 03:00:55,820
placing a moratorium on the approval of new front of the meter battery energy storage systems.

2038
03:00:55,820 --> 03:00:58,480
that was initially approved in January of 2024,

2039
03:00:58,680 --> 03:01:01,720
and then extended in February of 2024.

2040
03:01:03,620 --> 03:01:06,460
Since then, the California Energy Commission

2041
03:01:06,460 --> 03:01:09,640
has received an application from the Corby Project

2042
03:01:09,640 --> 03:01:12,880
to develop those 40 acres of prime farm land

2043
03:01:12,880 --> 03:01:15,920
into a 300 megawatt battery energy storage system.

2044
03:01:16,440 --> 03:01:19,380
Their project application has not yet been deemed complete,

2045
03:01:21,420 --> 03:01:22,560
but we're awaiting that.

2046
03:01:23,120 --> 03:01:23,660
Next slide, please.

2047
03:01:25,980 --> 03:01:43,220
Since the approval of the moratorium on new battery energy storage systems, staff have put together a technical working group, including stakeholders representing first responders, emergency services, agriculture, the industry has met in a member of the public.

2048
03:01:43,920 --> 03:01:49,040
They provided insights on best practices and safety standards to include in our draft

2049
03:01:49,040 --> 03:01:49,520
ordinance.

2050
03:01:50,180 --> 03:01:55,220
Most recently, staff presented to the board on the status of that ordinance and received

2051
03:01:55,220 --> 03:02:00,700
input and feedback on citing criteria, setbacks, and safety requirements, as well as agricultural

2052
03:02:00,700 --> 03:02:04,420
land protections, and the risks of certain battery chemistry technologies.

2053
03:02:07,010 --> 03:02:12,350
So what we have in front of you today is an amendment to the ordinance that put the moratorium

2054
03:02:12,350 --> 03:02:20,330
in place that would allow battery energy storage systems with safeguards on industrial and manufacturing districts only.

2055
03:02:21,410 --> 03:02:25,370
The ordinance would still maintain the moratorium on battery energy storage in all other zones.

2056
03:02:26,170 --> 03:02:32,890
As we require additional time to establish regulations to adequately address threats to human health and safety in those areas.

2057
03:02:32,890 --> 03:02:35,410
I just

2058
03:02:37,420 --> 03:02:40,860
wanted to understand it says the industrial and

2059
03:02:40,860 --> 03:02:45,720
manual factoring zones, but where are those located?

2060
03:02:45,960 --> 03:02:48,980
Because I couldn't find them.

2061
03:02:49,280 --> 03:02:49,800
I didn't know.

2062
03:02:50,060 --> 03:02:55,320
And I wasn't sure then I went and pulled the general plan

2063
03:02:55,320 --> 03:02:59,460
and I pulled the opportunity sites where it says commercial

2064
03:02:59,460 --> 03:03:01,640
industrial destination.

2065
03:03:01,640 --> 03:03:09,360
So I was wondering is the commercial being interchange when manufacturing or where is this located?

2066
03:03:10,040 --> 03:03:17,400
So at the end of the pack we added a map to showing the locations obviously there's 44 parcels that we've identified.

2067
03:03:17,740 --> 03:03:21,820
There's small green dots and we'll show a map on the big screen here in a second.

2068
03:03:22,660 --> 03:03:31,100
Well I guess my question should be where in the general plan if I was I know you have it in here.

2069
03:03:31,100 --> 03:03:39,920
But where would I look up in industrial and manufacturing districts because I did try to look for it.

2070
03:03:40,360 --> 03:03:43,800
I just couldn't identify so I didn't know where to look.

2071
03:03:45,510 --> 03:03:51,610
Supervisor Evie on the land use designation map and the county administrator is pulling up the page in the general plan.

2072
03:03:52,290 --> 03:03:55,890
I did go in that section, which is quite lengthy.

2073
03:03:56,570 --> 03:03:59,510
So what would pay just some for my reference?

2074
03:04:00,770 --> 03:04:11,990
It's still flipping, it's the land use, believe it, it's, it's the first land use map in the land use chapter of the general land use map.

2075
03:04:12,170 --> 03:04:14,690
It's figure LU-1.

2076
03:04:18,670 --> 03:04:20,350
Okay, thank you.

2077
03:04:39,690 --> 03:04:40,370
So

2078
03:04:44,500 --> 03:04:53,020
the item that you have in front of you today would amend the interim ordinance 2024 1852 U.E.

2079
03:04:53,020 --> 03:04:59,640
to lift the moratorium on new front-of-the-meter battery energy storage projects in these specific zones,

2080
03:04:59,880 --> 03:05:04,660
ML, MG-1-half, MG-3, IWD, and IAS.

2081
03:05:06,020 --> 03:05:12,700
This amendment would apply interim safety, siding, and operational standards until a permanent ordinance is adopted.

2082
03:05:13,240 --> 03:05:18,560
These standards address a lot of the concerns that we've heard from the community and the board in regards to the threat of thermal runaway

2083
03:05:18,560 --> 03:05:21,900
and impacts to nearby residents, agriculture, and businesses.

2084
03:05:24,620 --> 03:05:28,820
We would maintain the moratorium on front of the meter battery energy storage in all

2085
03:05:28,820 --> 03:05:33,780
other zones, and we would return to the board with the final ordinance.

2086
03:05:38,020 --> 03:05:42,660
So this would maintain the moratorium on front of the meter battery energy storage in

2087
03:05:42,660 --> 03:05:48,940
all other zones, and we would return to the board with a final ordinance before the interim

2088
03:05:48,940 --> 03:05:51,740
ordinance expires in January of next year.

2089
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:56,360
Then here's the map that we had added to the packet.

2090
03:05:56,980 --> 03:06:03,520
The green parcels are the ones that met the match the zonies that we are allowing these

2091
03:06:03,520 --> 03:06:03,780
on.

2092
03:06:04,900 --> 03:06:08,020
Erick did a quick calculation, there's 44 parcels that are currently identified that would

2093
03:06:08,020 --> 03:06:08,680
allow it.

2094
03:06:11,160 --> 03:06:12,180
Yep, thank you.

2095
03:06:12,560 --> 03:06:15,480
And those exclude any very high fire hazard zones.

2096
03:06:15,760 --> 03:06:15,940
Correct.

2097
03:06:15,940 --> 03:06:16,920
So

2098
03:06:20,760 --> 03:06:26,700
the next steps are for staff to finalize a permanent battery energy storage ordinance.

2099
03:06:27,180 --> 03:06:31,020
And we are planning for introduction and adoption in this fall.

2100
03:06:31,600 --> 03:06:36,460
We will continue coordinating with local first responders and emergency response agencies,

2101
03:06:36,820 --> 03:06:41,880
as well as stakeholders, utility agencies, and state agencies and members of the public.

2102
03:06:42,640 --> 03:06:47,740
And we will continue to monitor emerging best practices, safety standards, and include

2103
03:06:47,740 --> 03:06:50,300
those in the ordinance that we bring before the board at this fall.

2104
03:06:53,050 --> 03:06:53,670
So that brings us.

2105
03:06:54,790 --> 03:06:55,310
Sure, thank you.

2106
03:06:59,210 --> 03:07:06,010
So in reference to the Lambie, because this is the Lambie in Collinsville, the only two locations

2107
03:07:06,010 --> 03:07:14,090
that can be identified in this old county, nevertheless, I know that that's particular.

2108
03:07:14,550 --> 03:07:18,190
How far away is that property from the base?

2109
03:07:18,190 --> 03:07:24,390
the distance and land be identified area for battery storage.

2110
03:07:24,550 --> 03:07:26,870
And I ask this because of several reasons.

2111
03:07:27,490 --> 03:07:35,510
We've received the Sassoon City, their economic development strategic plan,

2112
03:07:36,310 --> 03:07:41,570
have housing, then California forever's plan, also had housing.

2113
03:07:42,150 --> 03:07:46,790
And the whole goal was to keep this away from housing.

2114
03:07:46,790 --> 03:08:09,470
And if they're planning to build housing, quote-unquote is approved, I'm just throwing it out here because we've seen all these different, what's the word I'm looking for, demonstrations of that's not the word I want but iterations of how housing could take place in that space.

2115
03:08:10,210 --> 03:08:14,390
So if we're saying we didn't want it near housing in Vacaville,

2116
03:08:14,390 --> 03:08:20,090
So then are we saying now we if California ever gets approved or

2117
03:08:20,690 --> 03:08:25,710
so soon city annexed that area are we saying now it's okay for the

2118
03:08:25,710 --> 03:08:29,290
being around housing. I'm confused. I just want to understand that.

2119
03:08:29,370 --> 03:08:36,190
And then down here by Collinsville, there's a little division of homes there.

2120
03:08:37,310 --> 03:08:40,990
I just I just try to understand the process.

2121
03:08:40,990 --> 03:08:52,170
So our ordinance would be trying to match where there is existing housing, not where proposed or unapproved housing is.

2122
03:08:52,450 --> 03:08:58,830
So we're trying to find locations that are in more open areas and specifically industrial.

2123
03:08:59,450 --> 03:09:08,250
Those industrial uses are, there is anticipation in those areas that you're going to have these types of facilities, including refineries, other things that can happen in that area.

2124
03:09:08,250 --> 03:09:10,930
Yeah, so we're trying to target it into those areas.

2125
03:09:11,330 --> 03:09:23,990
If something were to happen down in that area related to housing, then obviously that would be a consideration for when the housing is put together, but it wouldn't preclude them from place in that area because there's no housing there currently for the Collinsville.

2126
03:09:24,790 --> 03:09:36,850
So let me make sure I understand so because there are no housing there, then when it comes to that time, because we already said we don't want it by housing.

2127
03:09:37,510 --> 03:09:40,390
I just don't see us backtracking.

2128
03:09:41,110 --> 03:09:45,330
Later down the road to say we want housing then.

2129
03:09:45,830 --> 03:09:48,290
Yeah, since this is already a zone for industrial.

2130
03:09:48,870 --> 03:09:54,730
Anyone that builds houses around, it should have the anticipation that there could be some industrial uses, not just battery storage, but

2131
03:09:54,730 --> 03:09:59,090
other very impactful uses that can happen on those sites.

2132
03:10:00,050 --> 03:10:03,510
I guess I asked that because in the first

2133
03:10:05,130 --> 03:10:09,790
California forever rendering because they own they own all the land around

2134
03:10:09,790 --> 03:10:14,730
there. They had indicated they wanted to do battery storage. I don't know if

2135
03:10:14,730 --> 03:10:22,030
that was to power their proposed city or not. I know that these are the areas that

2136
03:10:22,030 --> 03:10:31,230
that we're already identified in their renderings, not against it, I'm just trying to understand

2137
03:10:31,230 --> 03:10:31,850
what we're doing.

2138
03:10:32,330 --> 03:10:32,450
Sure.

2139
03:10:33,030 --> 03:10:37,890
There are some instances, though, even in the final ordinance that we're seeking, that

2140
03:10:37,890 --> 03:10:42,730
there are potentials for battery technologies that are compatible in the sense that we wouldn't

2141
03:10:42,730 --> 03:10:45,030
have as high of a restriction or concern around housing.

2142
03:10:45,650 --> 03:10:48,330
And so as we go through that process, those will also get identified.

2143
03:10:48,330 --> 03:10:56,890
and so just say we someone choose this location how many miles is it between that

2144
03:10:56,890 --> 03:11:07,950
particular industrial I identify property and to the air base runway how

2145
03:11:07,950 --> 03:11:17,690
many miles three miles and so I guess I'm trying to ask is if it's three

2146
03:11:17,690 --> 03:11:23,170
miles it can and if it catch on fire just say if they don't choose to use the

2147
03:11:23,170 --> 03:11:29,350
I remember Eric you said they can choose a different type of product where

2148
03:11:29,350 --> 03:11:36,290
it's just going to the groundwater and then pollute all the water but hey

2149
03:11:36,290 --> 03:11:43,610
I'll just keep it real so I just trying to understand how are we the county that

2150
03:11:43,610 --> 03:11:50,870
It says we protect Travis Air Force base, how we protecting them if the sketch is on fire.

2151
03:11:51,270 --> 03:11:56,310
So it's part of the ordinance language that we have been drafting part of the requirements

2152
03:11:56,310 --> 03:12:00,850
that we're looking for, plume models that the any proposal would have to pull together.

2153
03:12:01,410 --> 03:12:06,230
And those plume models would study air flow patterns, smoke patterns and how they could and potentially

2154
03:12:06,230 --> 03:12:07,870
are would impact Travis.

2155
03:12:08,470 --> 03:12:12,290
And so that would be one of the consideration points of placement of anywhere within the county.

2156
03:12:12,290 --> 03:12:17,010
That type of model would need to be studied and we'd have that information to make some decisions upon well

2157
03:12:17,010 --> 03:12:21,310
Okay, so I'm asking these questions because the soon city is one of the most diverse

2158
03:12:21,950 --> 03:12:25,270
cities in this county outside of the city of Vallejo and

2159
03:12:26,090 --> 03:12:29,070
So we have a quite a different population

2160
03:12:30,990 --> 03:12:35,330
That's beautiful. I love diversity. I don't even know some

2161
03:12:36,870 --> 03:12:39,350
Administration's may not but nevertheless

2162
03:12:41,410 --> 03:12:55,890
There's already going to be a lot of trucks and I just don't know in reference to the environmental impacts and the health of the individuals leaving Esersu City or

2163
03:12:55,890 --> 03:13:04,570
of VISTA which are more mature population, how is this going to impact their health outcomes?

2164
03:13:04,770 --> 03:13:10,630
Because I'm not just looking at location which is very important but we also have to take

2165
03:13:10,630 --> 03:13:17,970
into account people's health, we have a high asthma rate, when if that does catch on fire

2166
03:13:17,970 --> 03:13:23,570
how is it going to impact those individuals living in that area?

2167
03:13:23,570 --> 03:13:30,010
And there is a history, not in, I'm not saying it's long county, but historically there's

2168
03:13:30,010 --> 03:13:40,050
history where in neighborhoods that are predominantly people of color are impacted the most.

2169
03:13:40,190 --> 03:13:42,450
That's where most of the manufacturing is built.

2170
03:13:42,610 --> 03:13:48,290
That's where most of the pollution or pollutants are done.

2171
03:13:48,570 --> 03:13:49,670
I came from Richmond.

2172
03:13:49,670 --> 03:13:57,110
I remember when Chevron caught on fire I didn't even know where near Chevron but I remember

2173
03:13:57,110 --> 03:14:06,730
all that ash falling on me, falling on my car, falling on my house and so I need us to

2174
03:14:06,730 --> 03:14:10,870
be as we go through this process and I know it's not easy.

2175
03:14:11,370 --> 03:14:18,990
I don't doubt it for one second that making these decisions aren't easy but if we can

2176
03:14:18,990 --> 03:14:29,930
continuing to find location that's even further away from people would be in my opinion most been official even though when you look

2177
03:14:29,930 --> 03:14:38,870
at this it does seem like oh there's a great location right until I start thinking about the individuals and the people that could

2178
03:14:38,870 --> 03:14:48,050
be impacted the most and then as we go back to our communities of color we need to protect them too. All right thank you.

2179
03:14:48,050 --> 03:14:53,710
I just wanted to put that out there but right now let you can continue your presentation so

2180
03:14:58,190 --> 03:14:59,970
the next steps for staff are

2181
03:15:07,360 --> 03:15:20,880
We're going to continue coordinating with the local stakeholders, members of the public, representatives of first-response agencies, as well as the industry, to continue to update the best practices and safety standards that we include in that ordinance.

2182
03:15:24,710 --> 03:15:31,770
So the recommendation before you today is to read the proposed ordinance by title only and waive further reading.

2183
03:15:31,770 --> 03:15:36,350
Conduct a notice public hearing to consider amending interim ordinance number

2184
03:15:36,350 --> 03:15:42,630
2024-1852UE limiting new commercial battery energy storage systems within

2185
03:15:42,630 --> 03:15:49,630
unincorporated Solano County and adopt ordinance number 2024-1852UE amendment

2186
03:15:49,630 --> 03:15:56,470
number one for this review required. All right and with that are there any more

2187
03:15:56,470 --> 03:15:58,570
questions from the board before I open the public hearing?

2188
03:15:58,570 --> 03:16:06,270
I just want to remind the board and for members of the public what we're doing today is a zoning ordinance.

2189
03:16:06,690 --> 03:16:11,910
So what we're doing is we're currently, as of right now, we have a complete ban, right?

2190
03:16:12,190 --> 03:16:16,810
We came back last meeting, we talked to you, we heard a lot of feedback, we heard your direction.

2191
03:16:17,390 --> 03:16:23,270
We agreed that we thought we could bring this forward to make a slight tweak in the moratorium to allow

2192
03:16:23,270 --> 03:16:53,250
Now in just those locations that were on the board, which the supervisor Williams, you saw that there's no population around them, whether or not that there will ever be population around them, we don't know that's another process, another entity is currently going through in terms of their analysis, but we identified that these areas met the criteria that we were bringing forward in the draft resolution, I mean the draft ordinance along with the direction that you had given us, so we're here today, there's still a lot more work to be done, but we wanted to at least kind of take our foot off

2193
03:16:53,250 --> 03:17:00,790
off the break a little bit on the moratorium and say these particular areas match the direction that you had given us.

2194
03:17:01,090 --> 03:17:03,970
There's still more to go as Eric has talked about.

2195
03:17:04,350 --> 03:17:06,990
We have to get to the planning commission, we have to get to the airport land use commission.

2196
03:17:07,110 --> 03:17:09,170
So there's a lot more work to be done.

2197
03:17:09,690 --> 03:17:15,050
But for this and today's action only is just on those little green down in Collinsville,

2198
03:17:15,210 --> 03:17:19,130
down in Lambie and up in the way north in the Dixon area.

2199
03:17:19,130 --> 03:17:24,430
Yeah, just to give some opportunity should somebody want to come in.

2200
03:17:24,830 --> 03:17:29,010
In addition in this ordinance is definitions, they're standards.

2201
03:17:29,570 --> 03:17:33,690
It's not an automatic yes, there's a whole process associated with it.

2202
03:17:33,850 --> 03:17:40,750
So remember, today is about zoning and about allowing them with certain approval processes

2203
03:17:40,750 --> 03:17:43,770
associated with them in those green highlighted areas.

2204
03:17:43,770 --> 03:17:55,450
And the balance that we're trying to strike is that we know that we have a broad range of input, both extremes, allow them, absolutely ban them.

2205
03:17:55,910 --> 03:18:02,590
We know the reality is that if we absolutely ban them, that they will go around through the state process and they could show up anywhere in the county.

2206
03:18:02,990 --> 03:18:13,750
And so we're trying to strike a balance that we can utilize when we meet with the CEC to discuss these projects, to have some basis with which to provide provisions to protect the public as much as possible.

2207
03:18:16,240 --> 03:18:16,680
Okay.

2208
03:18:19,600 --> 03:18:32,560
And I just wanted to say that I do appreciate that and that staff understood what we were talking about because we can't be the county of no because if we are, then the state is going to cram it down or throw, right?

2209
03:18:33,080 --> 03:18:43,660
And the place that right now we're talking about where they're talking about cramming it, there are people living, there's a city right there, there's a leisure town, there's all those things over there in my district that would be impacted by this.

2210
03:18:44,400 --> 03:18:48,280
No, I'm talking about right here, I'm talking about the best plant that they want to put right?

2211
03:18:48,300 --> 03:18:49,440
Oh, I don't think it's that.

2212
03:18:49,840 --> 03:18:51,440
That's what this ordinance.

2213
03:18:51,980 --> 03:18:57,520
Now what's this one right here that's one of the little spots that's an industrial spot?

2214
03:18:59,600 --> 03:19:04,100
And so that's why he said there's like 40 lots, so it's not just Lambie and it's not just

2215
03:19:04,100 --> 03:19:04,600
column bill.

2216
03:19:04,600 --> 03:19:10,920
There are 40 little lots somewhere in the county, there's somewhere in the county that are

2217
03:19:10,920 --> 03:19:18,560
are eligible for that type of plan and their location relative to cities and people and everything else, you know, matters.

2218
03:19:20,680 --> 03:19:31,860
And so those plume studies, the potential for development down the road, all those things are factors that go into that.

2219
03:19:32,440 --> 03:19:40,660
But right now, the greatest threat is what's being proposed by what I'm assuming we're going to hear

2220
03:19:40,660 --> 03:19:41,500
from public comment.

2221
03:19:41,620 --> 03:19:45,840
The great threat is that best plant right next to Vacaville.

2222
03:19:46,960 --> 03:19:59,660
And so this ordinance gives us the ability to work with the state to try and say we have other locations, use those instead.

2223
03:20:02,510 --> 03:20:02,710
But-

2224
03:20:02,710 --> 03:20:11,750
to your fact, I agree with that. I guess my main concern is that when the plume studies and stuff

2225
03:20:11,750 --> 03:20:21,610
are done, that we look at how it can drift towards the cities of Reavista, or so soon. That's really

2226
03:20:21,610 --> 03:20:28,390
my main. Absolutely. I would both of those are in my district, too. And let me not just save my district

2227
03:20:28,390 --> 03:20:34,630
going even anywhere else yeah absolutely I agree any people in our county our

2228
03:20:34,630 --> 03:20:39,130
residents exactly yeah part of the advantage today too is not only identifying

2229
03:20:39,130 --> 03:20:42,470
sites where these can go but it is the provisions that we're providing the

2230
03:20:42,470 --> 03:20:46,230
conditions that we also want to see because we can utilize those with the CEC in

2231
03:20:46,230 --> 03:20:49,450
the review of the current projects we can say these are the things that are critical

2232
03:20:49,450 --> 03:20:52,990
to us this is what our board has taken action on this with the public is set and so

2233
03:20:52,990 --> 03:20:56,870
the process today sets that up till we have some information to take to the CEC

2234
03:20:56,870 --> 03:20:59,790
for these projects and say, these are concerns.

2235
03:21:00,870 --> 03:21:04,290
And I just want to add one more thing, is that, again, this is a zoning ordinance.

2236
03:21:04,510 --> 03:21:10,150
The process would be to allow, should an applicant come in, I'm not saying any applicant has come in,

2237
03:21:10,490 --> 03:21:14,170
should an applicant come in, there is a use permit application process.

2238
03:21:14,870 --> 03:21:19,210
Ultimately, per this ordinance, that use permit would be approved by this board.

2239
03:21:19,570 --> 03:21:23,510
So all the conditions associated with it, that use permit would first go to planning commission,

2240
03:21:23,810 --> 03:21:25,490
and then ultimately come to this board.

2241
03:21:25,490 --> 03:21:55,470
So, the action today is just saying, here's the potential sighting locations, as well as we've got a process in the code, or what should the Board adopt the ordinance today, that would allow for us to then analyze that application, place conditions on them, get the studies that you're talking about, and then bring them forward to, because there's going to have to be environmental review, bring it to the Planning Commission, and then again, ultimately to this Board for approval of the use permit, at which point in time you would then be able to

2242
03:21:55,470 --> 03:21:57,050
to say, no, I have concerns.

2243
03:21:57,430 --> 03:21:58,550
It is too close to population.

2244
03:21:58,890 --> 03:22:01,530
No, I don't think that that study adequately addresses it.

2245
03:22:01,950 --> 03:22:07,470
But so the process today is to set up where there's the potential for

2246
03:22:07,470 --> 03:22:10,290
them to go right now based on what we know.

2247
03:22:10,630 --> 03:22:15,570
We are going to continue on for the rest of the portion of the moratorium and

2248
03:22:15,570 --> 03:22:19,350
bring that to planning commission, as I said to the ALUQ, for

2249
03:22:19,350 --> 03:22:23,890
a final adoption of an ordinance and we can address more of your concerns as we go through that process.

2250
03:22:23,890 --> 03:22:24,070
Yes.

2251
03:22:34,220 --> 03:22:37,440
Well, I was just going to say this is not a new process to Sloan County.

2252
03:22:37,600 --> 03:22:41,820
We did it with the dairies, we did it with the windmills, we did it with solar.

2253
03:22:43,500 --> 03:22:49,640
So identifying locations that given all the comments that have been given to us by the

2254
03:22:49,640 --> 03:22:55,460
public and board comments themselves, this interim ordinance, because it does deal with the zoning

2255
03:22:55,460 --> 03:23:00,680
part of it, does it give us the flexibility into the supervisor Mashman's point we're not

2256
03:23:00,680 --> 03:23:06,060
not the county of no, which someone could use against us when they go speak to the state.

2257
03:23:06,920 --> 03:23:13,180
We still providing opportunity to should someone want to someone's or some entity want to establish.

2258
03:23:13,700 --> 03:23:19,360
Then there's a process, but the end of the day, it still comes with the board of supervisors for ultimate approval.

2259
03:23:19,940 --> 03:23:21,660
Should the board decide to approve it?

2260
03:23:25,240 --> 03:23:30,720
Absolutely, and with that, I will open the public hearing and I have a lot of public to hear from.

2261
03:23:31,700 --> 03:23:36,400
I think I have a card from everybody in the room except the two reporters in the back.

2262
03:23:40,180 --> 03:23:44,960
I will remind everybody we got about three minutes a piece so otherwise we aren't going

2263
03:23:44,960 --> 03:23:46,280
to get through this this afternoon.

2264
03:23:47,180 --> 03:23:54,560
So with that, Karen Bell, the lecture on New Year's, and did I open the public hearing?

2265
03:23:55,260 --> 03:23:55,560
Yeah, I did.

2266
03:23:55,680 --> 03:23:55,860
Okay.

2267
03:23:55,980 --> 03:23:58,220
Just making sure it is open.

2268
03:23:58,220 --> 03:24:05,620
Thank you for listening, thank you for being here, but I'll make it short.

2269
03:24:06,440 --> 03:24:15,600
I live less than three miles away from the proposed plant, and I want to keep, I live

2270
03:24:15,600 --> 03:24:17,240
on a ranch, family ranch.

2271
03:24:17,460 --> 03:24:22,560
I want to keep it that way for our grandchildren and their grandchildren.

2272
03:24:22,560 --> 03:24:25,180
So that's all I wanted to say.

2273
03:24:25,540 --> 03:24:33,080
I support a new ordinance, whatever the verbiage is,

2274
03:24:33,120 --> 03:24:35,960
but no best near our home.

2275
03:24:36,800 --> 03:24:37,840
Thank you.

2276
03:24:38,160 --> 03:24:38,480
Thank you.

2277
03:24:38,660 --> 03:24:40,460
It sounds like a good protest song.

2278
03:24:42,860 --> 03:24:45,400
Next up is Miss Collie.

2279
03:24:54,640 --> 03:24:58,120
Chair board, I gave you a very rudimentary map

2280
03:24:58,120 --> 03:24:59,220
that I hand drew.

2281
03:24:59,220 --> 03:25:03,040
that kind of drew the geographical location.

2282
03:25:03,220 --> 03:25:07,960
I asked for a minute extra so that you could take a look at that map and ask questions

2283
03:25:07,960 --> 03:25:09,280
of me if you had questions.

2284
03:25:10,360 --> 03:25:11,640
My name is Gaul.

2285
03:25:11,900 --> 03:25:13,960
I'm a realtor here in Solano County.

2286
03:25:14,740 --> 03:25:21,040
In my profession, I care deeply about not only the improvements that strengthen the community

2287
03:25:21,040 --> 03:25:26,500
but also about protecting the health, safety, and well bearing of our county's residents.

2288
03:25:26,500 --> 03:25:35,540
And that's why I'm here today to support the proposed revisions to the battery energy storage stations moratorium as a beginning step.

2289
03:25:36,100 --> 03:25:48,860
I'm concerned about identifying the specific map areas, but the description and the details to the actual use permit is what I am specifically stating.

2290
03:25:48,860 --> 03:25:57,220
The site being considered across interstate 80 from the Vaca Bill Dixon sub station is dangerously close to our neighborhoods.

2291
03:25:57,840 --> 03:26:00,860
Agricultural lands and sensitive community areas.

2292
03:26:01,340 --> 03:26:10,320
It is very close proximity to Kaiser Permanente Vaca Bill Medical Center, the primary regional hospital for Solano County in the north.

2293
03:26:10,820 --> 03:26:17,440
And just off interstate 505, where a coming soon large truck stop at Midway Road,

2294
03:26:17,440 --> 03:26:20,520
a hub of constant heavy truck activity.

2295
03:26:21,240 --> 03:26:27,120
This location also sits directly across from along the main North South Transportation

2296
03:26:27,120 --> 03:26:30,720
corridor for trucks traveling from Seattle to San Diego.

2297
03:26:31,520 --> 03:26:38,200
And Interstate 80 right at this site is the primary east-west roadway leading to California's

2298
03:26:38,200 --> 03:26:38,940
state capital.

2299
03:26:39,520 --> 03:26:44,540
Any incident here would not only endanger our community, but also threaten critical interstate

2300
03:26:44,540 --> 03:26:46,500
commerce and emergency access.

2301
03:26:47,360 --> 03:26:59,180
Equally concerning, this proposed site is surrounded by prime farm land, which is as the board knows, our county's largest economic driver at $1.6 billion annually.

2302
03:26:59,900 --> 03:27:07,680
To allow a battery energy station facility here would put at risk the land, livelihoods, and economy that define Solano County.

2303
03:27:07,680 --> 03:27:13,300
It is important restricting battery energy storage stations and ensuring that they're

2304
03:27:13,300 --> 03:27:19,520
not placed in residential, agricultural, or commercial areas requiring safety setbacks

2305
03:27:19,520 --> 03:27:24,340
from homes, schools, hospitals, and other sensitive locations is significant.

2306
03:27:24,980 --> 03:27:30,680
These are common sense protections that balance the need for renewable energy storage within

2307
03:27:30,680 --> 03:27:33,800
in the safety of our residents, farmland, and businesses.

2308
03:27:34,580 --> 03:27:40,680
Fires, explosions, and toxic releases from these sites have been documented across the country.

2309
03:27:41,220 --> 03:27:45,520
And our county cannot afford to play such risks next to people we live,

2310
03:27:46,380 --> 03:27:51,760
heal, farm, and work, or along major state and national transportation route.

2311
03:27:52,240 --> 03:27:58,260
As both a realtor and a resident, I urge you to move forward today conservatively.

2312
03:27:58,260 --> 03:28:11,220
And ultimately, adopt some sort of provision, protective provision, keep the moratorium as much as you can in place until you have these provisions and understandings.

2313
03:28:11,340 --> 03:28:12,600
Thank you, ma'am.

2314
03:28:15,320 --> 03:28:20,510
Mr. Cruxel, Paul, Paul Cruxel?

2315
03:28:31,620 --> 03:28:33,760
Good afternoon, members of the board and staff.

2316
03:28:34,420 --> 03:28:40,420
I'm one of the residents of Vacaville that lives on the southeast side of Vacaville not very far from one of these proposed sites.

2317
03:28:40,960 --> 03:28:48,500
I just want to thank the board for being so diligent about trying to learn about this storage system.

2318
03:28:50,020 --> 03:28:55,900
I do appreciate your efforts and what you're trying to do to try to slow this up a little bit so we can think about it.

2319
03:28:56,580 --> 03:28:59,440
What I don't understand is why we're talking about storage.

2320
03:29:00,160 --> 03:29:07,480
We all know that our need for energy is going to just explode here in the very near future,

2321
03:29:07,480 --> 03:29:11,580
or especially with this AI thing that seems to be running wildly now.

2322
03:29:13,560 --> 03:29:15,880
We already have technology that will do that.

2323
03:29:17,100 --> 03:29:19,480
Diesel-powered generators are clean nowadays.

2324
03:29:20,960 --> 03:29:23,900
Natural gas turbines, generators are clean.

2325
03:29:24,780 --> 03:29:28,420
And best of all are small modular reactors.

2326
03:29:28,980 --> 03:29:33,240
Nuclear power can produce more power, clean power,

2327
03:29:33,240 --> 03:29:40,200
and doesn't take up near as much space or catch on fire and kill people and destroy land

2328
03:29:40,200 --> 03:29:47,280
and property. I really would like to encourage the board to look in that direction more than

2329
03:29:47,280 --> 03:29:56,180
battery storage systems that we know burn. Moss landing didn't burn one time and that

2330
03:29:56,180 --> 03:29:58,800
land down there is permanently destroyed now.

2331
03:30:00,400 --> 03:30:30,080
So, this is a money grab. The way I see it, there's money out there and there's people that want that money. The jobs are not going to be created here in Solano County. The people that come to build these facilities are going to come from other counties and other states. And as far as these plants operating after they're built, they're not going to create very many jobs. So I don't see much there. I think the focus should be on long-term solutions and the long-term solution technology is already here.

2332
03:30:30,080 --> 03:30:33,120
We're just turning a blind eye to it.

2333
03:30:33,580 --> 03:30:37,460
So thank you to the Board of Supervisors for doing the work that you're doing.

2334
03:30:37,960 --> 03:30:44,300
But please take a look at in another directions for solutions to the problem long-term and much cheaper.

2335
03:30:44,840 --> 03:30:45,180
Thank you.

2336
03:30:45,520 --> 03:30:45,940
Thank you.

2337
03:30:47,620 --> 03:30:49,040
Next up is Kathy Moore.

2338
03:31:02,210 --> 03:31:04,670
Hi, I'm going to make it short, sweet, and to the point.

2339
03:31:05,450 --> 03:31:07,230
I appreciate what all of you do.

2340
03:31:07,710 --> 03:31:09,030
I would not want your job.

2341
03:31:09,130 --> 03:31:10,030
Let me just say that.

2342
03:31:11,370 --> 03:31:20,910
I've lived in Vacaville since 1971, I'm a retired nurse, I am a grandma and a mom,

2343
03:31:21,110 --> 03:31:24,390
my children are raised here, it's my home.

2344
03:31:25,470 --> 03:31:30,230
And I think it's really sad and I think it's all about the money too.

2345
03:31:30,990 --> 03:31:37,190
I think it's sad to get rid of agricultural land, this song kept going in my head.

2346
03:31:37,190 --> 03:31:46,810
They got rid of paradise. They put in a parking lot. That's what I kept thinking in the shower this morning. I thought that's stupid, but it's an old song.

2347
03:31:47,690 --> 03:31:58,290
But it's true. Let's not give our agricultural land away. I don't want California to become nothing but all just concrete.

2348
03:31:59,190 --> 03:32:04,850
This is a beautiful county. And hey, I don't care for a no county. I want to be that.

2349
03:32:04,850 --> 03:32:11,550
I think they should put these facilities somewhere out in the desert where there's no people, you know?

2350
03:32:12,290 --> 03:32:13,230
That's just my thought.

2351
03:32:13,690 --> 03:32:17,590
Anyway, please give this a lot of thought before you approve it.

2352
03:32:17,870 --> 03:32:18,250
Thank you.

2353
03:32:23,040 --> 03:32:25,260
And next up is Heidi Wooden.

2354
03:32:35,440 --> 03:32:37,280
Thank you for listening to us today.

2355
03:32:38,480 --> 03:32:41,540
I'm a retired school teacher, taught at Cooper.

2356
03:32:42,140 --> 03:32:44,600
That's very close to the proposed site.

2357
03:32:44,600 --> 03:32:50,840
And I want to say I am in support of the changes to the best auditorium.

2358
03:32:51,460 --> 03:32:53,360
It makes it stricter guidelines.

2359
03:32:53,680 --> 03:32:54,140
Thank you.

2360
03:32:54,620 --> 03:32:54,960
Thank you.

2361
03:32:57,400 --> 03:32:58,680
Dan Bousos.

2362
03:33:04,220 --> 03:33:15,080
Hello, I'm Dan Bousos and I live and grow almonds just like one parcel over from where they're proposing to do this project.

2363
03:33:15,080 --> 03:33:22,300
I have a bunch of information here that clearly states all the bad things about best.

2364
03:33:22,480 --> 03:33:26,540
I think everybody in this room knows what those things are, I don't really want to repeat

2365
03:33:26,540 --> 03:33:26,780
them.

2366
03:33:27,740 --> 03:33:35,000
I can tell you that as an almond farmer, I'm really concerned about contamination.

2367
03:33:36,880 --> 03:33:42,840
As an almond farmer, we have to be careful when we fertilize and all the things that go

2368
03:33:42,840 --> 03:33:43,720
into the soil.

2369
03:33:43,720 --> 03:33:51,320
and we got to make sure that that's all done right and there's a lot of regulation and we love to comply with this stuff because it's important that the environment be protected.

2370
03:33:51,860 --> 03:34:04,680
This project far outweighs any possible benefit that it can provide. It's just bad, bad, bad. There's nothing really good about it at all.

2371
03:34:04,680 --> 03:34:15,620
They claim that they need these battery storage facilities to accumulate excess solar energy

2372
03:34:15,620 --> 03:34:21,380
or excess wind energy, and it's supposed to go to these batteries and be stored and

2373
03:34:21,380 --> 03:34:24,580
then released when the city of San Francisco needs it.

2374
03:34:25,180 --> 03:34:32,620
Well, on Burns Road, there is no windmills, and there is no big solar farms.

2375
03:34:32,620 --> 03:34:41,700
So it's really basically taking power from the grid to charge these batteries and then send it to San Francisco.

2376
03:34:41,700 --> 03:34:53,220
Well, there's no point in it. I mean, it's absolutely, it's only good for four hours. It's absolutely useless because it doesn't do what they propose it to do.

2377
03:34:53,380 --> 03:35:01,380
It does not store excess energy. It simply is charged from the grid and then distributed back into the grid.

2378
03:35:01,380 --> 03:35:04,940
It's just so stupid, it's beyond belief, as far as I'm concerned.

2379
03:35:05,760 --> 03:35:13,900
And I am so happy to see staff and this board do the right thing.

2380
03:35:15,080 --> 03:35:19,440
Yeah, we need to have a little place for them, just to protect us from the state.

2381
03:35:19,680 --> 03:35:22,020
And I support you guys 100%.

2382
03:35:22,510 --> 03:35:24,300
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

2383
03:35:24,300 --> 03:35:26,840
Thank you.

2384
03:35:31,620 --> 03:35:32,580
Rosie's stable?

2385
03:35:34,360 --> 03:35:35,020
State bill?

2386
03:35:35,300 --> 03:35:35,640
State bill?

2387
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:36,720
I'll get it in a minute.

2388
03:35:37,240 --> 03:35:38,440
Good afternoon, board members.

2389
03:35:38,680 --> 03:35:43,200
Thank you for allowing our voices to be heard and for sharing our same concerns.

2390
03:35:43,780 --> 03:35:48,720
We all know about the volatile fires that are caused by these batteries, the health issues

2391
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that are caused by the toxic gases, and the contamination of a soil that occurs as seen

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03:35:53,340 --> 03:35:54,560
at the moss landing site.

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03:35:54,560 --> 03:35:59,040
We all have a basic human right to health and safety.

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03:35:59,540 --> 03:36:04,200
The energy companies are violating our rights by insisting on placing these battery sites

2395
03:36:04,200 --> 03:36:08,000
next to our schools, our homes, our hospitals, etc.

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03:36:08,820 --> 03:36:13,420
Their focus is on maximizing their profits with total disregard to the safety of the people

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03:36:13,420 --> 03:36:14,160
in the communities.

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03:36:14,840 --> 03:36:19,900
We need to have clear guidelines and restrictions in place to preserve and protect the health

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03:36:19,900 --> 03:36:24,600
of ourselves, our parents, our grandchildren, our great-grates, and all of our future generations

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03:36:24,600 --> 03:36:27,940
to come as well as preserving our agricultural land.

2401
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I'm asking that you please modify the modatorium and adopt it as our final ordinance to ensure

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03:36:34,260 --> 03:36:38,100
no best on our agricultural land or our commercial zones.

2403
03:36:38,540 --> 03:36:42,960
These energy companies need to prioritize the safety of the people over profits.

2404
03:36:42,960 --> 03:36:52,280
And now with respect to the distance from the Lambie property to our air base, three miles, that is not far enough.

2405
03:36:52,860 --> 03:37:00,780
As we saw at Moss Landing, the estuary, which was five miles away from that site, was contaminated.

2406
03:37:01,280 --> 03:37:03,860
So it's still not safe, unfortunately.

2407
03:37:04,400 --> 03:37:09,400
And thank you so much for listening and for doing all of the work that you got to do and to protect us, thank you.

2408
03:37:09,400 --> 03:37:10,420
Thank you.

2409
03:37:10,820 --> 03:37:11,740
Neil Sir.

2410
03:37:18,020 --> 03:37:18,520
Good afternoon.

2411
03:37:18,860 --> 03:37:23,880
I just like to say I'm in support of the proposed amendment and I want to thank everybody

2412
03:37:23,880 --> 03:37:31,920
in advance for passing this unanimously today and keep working in the future for a more

2413
03:37:31,920 --> 03:37:32,900
permanent solution.

2414
03:37:33,140 --> 03:37:35,200
I have a lot of numbers for tonight.

2415
03:37:35,800 --> 03:37:36,040
All right.

2416
03:37:36,320 --> 03:37:36,780
Thank you very much.

2417
03:37:37,440 --> 03:37:38,340
Thank you.

2418
03:37:38,620 --> 03:37:39,520
Victoria Sir.

2419
03:37:45,860 --> 03:37:51,740
Good afternoon and I live in the community where the best property where they're proposed

2420
03:37:51,740 --> 03:37:56,840
to put their site and my community is here today and I'm just so proud of us for coming

2421
03:37:56,840 --> 03:38:03,300
together and also for the board we've all learned so much about these types of facilities but

2422
03:38:03,300 --> 03:38:06,040
yet there's so much more to know we only know the immediate.

2423
03:38:06,500 --> 03:38:11,160
We don't know 10 years down the line 20 years down the line so putting something in place

2424
03:38:11,160 --> 03:38:18,600
that makes sense from what we do know far away from people and to keep Vacaville safe.

2425
03:38:18,920 --> 03:38:21,600
I think that makes the most sense, and again, I thank you.

2426
03:38:22,960 --> 03:38:23,740
Thank you.

2427
03:38:26,410 --> 03:38:27,130
Michael Geller.

2428
03:38:35,260 --> 03:38:36,260
Something a little different.

2429
03:38:36,980 --> 03:38:40,880
I'm going to read a letter I got from you 35 years ago.

2430
03:38:42,500 --> 03:38:45,980
Solano County is an agricultural county with many areas

2431
03:38:45,980 --> 03:38:48,360
as zone for agricultural operations.

2432
03:38:48,880 --> 03:38:52,120
The presence of farms and ranches yield significant

2433
03:38:52,120 --> 03:38:54,920
aesthetic and economic benefits to the residents

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03:38:54,920 --> 03:38:55,640
of the county.

2435
03:38:56,480 --> 03:38:59,340
Thus, the county's agriculture must be protected,

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03:39:00,820 --> 03:39:04,880
including in areas where it is near residential development.

2437
03:39:05,920 --> 03:39:09,200
To do this, Solano County has enacted chapter 2A

2438
03:39:09,200 --> 03:39:11,160
of its county code which provides

2439
03:39:11,160 --> 03:39:14,400
that properly conducted agricultural operations

2440
03:39:14,400 --> 03:39:17,080
will not be deemed a nuisance.

2441
03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:22,920
The ordinance further requires the county to give notice of the ordinance and its provisions

2442
03:39:23,180 --> 03:39:28,120
to buyers of real property, Moa, located in Solano County.

2443
03:39:28,700 --> 03:39:33,500
Accordingly, you are hereby notified that if the property you are purchasing is located

2444
03:39:33,500 --> 03:39:39,900
close to agricultural lands or operations, you may be subject to inconvenience or discomfort

2445
03:39:39,900 --> 03:39:43,860
from the following agricultural operations, I won't go into that.

2446
03:39:44,980 --> 03:40:01,560
If you live near an agricultural area, you should be prepared to accept any inconveniences or discomfort as a normal and necessary aspect of living in a county with a strong rural character and healthy agricultural sector.

2447
03:40:02,460 --> 03:40:08,500
I want to remind you this has been your policy all along and no reason to change it now.

2448
03:40:08,500 --> 03:40:15,000
We have to protect our ag lands and I want to thank the board for everything you've done from the bottom of my heart

2449
03:40:16,040 --> 03:40:18,480
We really appreciate it and I

2450
03:40:19,140 --> 03:40:22,140
fully support the proposed changes to the ordinance

2451
03:40:22,720 --> 03:40:25,800
Thank you. Thank you for the record. You probably got that from John

2452
03:40:32,820 --> 03:40:35,400
Alicia reminded me that we have some collars on the line

2453
03:40:35,400 --> 03:40:39,780
And so we'll let them break in here, and then I'll go back to the cards real quick.

2454
03:40:40,080 --> 03:40:45,780
Collars on the line, if you wish to speak on agenda item number 26, please press star three to raise your hand.

2455
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Collar with fund number ending in 11, go ahead and press star six to unmute yourself.

2456
03:41:00,620 --> 03:41:04,160
State your name if you wish, and a reminder to those on the phone.

2457
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It is a three minute time limit, and if you are watching the meeting online,

2458
03:41:08,140 --> 03:41:13,900
there's a 30-second delay between the live feed and the broadcast. Call it with

2459
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funding remaining in 1-1. Go ahead.

2460
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Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Great. Thank

2461
03:41:21,980 --> 03:41:26,580
you so much. My name is Elise Dominion. I'm a resident of Vactville. Thank you

2462
03:41:26,580 --> 03:41:33,000
Board of Supervisors and the staff for revising the ordinance to exclude

2463
03:41:33,000 --> 03:41:38,940
agricultural land. I had written a letter to you over the weekend and I want to

2464
03:41:38,940 --> 03:41:45,340
I'll highlight some of the key events that have occurred over the last 75 years that

2465
03:41:45,340 --> 03:41:49,040
were highlighted in the 2024 San Juan County's proper board.

2466
03:41:49,860 --> 03:41:54,560
And so starting back in 1980, the Board of Supervisors adopted the first comprehensive

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03:41:54,560 --> 03:41:57,500
general plan, emphasizing farm land protection.

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03:41:58,300 --> 03:42:04,580
In 1984, the voters of San Juan County approved measure A, reaffirming these general plan

2469
03:42:04,580 --> 03:42:10,960
policies for protecting farmland 1994 measure A was extended through its orderly growth

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03:42:10,960 --> 03:42:20,720
initiative that through 2010 and then in 2008 measure T which again is created to protect

2471
03:42:20,720 --> 03:42:26,400
our ag land was voted in a protected through 2028 so I'd like to take this opportunity to

2472
03:42:26,400 --> 03:42:33,920
request the board to place a measure on the ballot in 2026 to extend these agricultural

2473
03:42:33,920 --> 03:42:37,960
cultural farmland protection that are currently incorporated in our general plan.

2474
03:42:38,700 --> 03:42:47,940
Number two, the ordinance addresses financial assurance, including insurance requirements

2475
03:42:47,940 --> 03:42:52,220
and also requirements in connection with letters of credit.

2476
03:42:52,880 --> 03:43:00,480
And I'd like to, as stated in my email, I want to make sure that any litigation disputes

2477
03:43:00,480 --> 03:43:05,080
and connection with insurance and a letter to spread it, that you include a provision

2478
03:43:05,080 --> 03:43:09,300
and mandating any litigation occurring in the state of California to your digital system.

2479
03:43:09,940 --> 03:43:15,420
I also want to make sure that the banks back in the letter credit are federally insured

2480
03:43:15,420 --> 03:43:19,960
and that they receive investment grade ratings of A or better, including for the insurance

2481
03:43:19,960 --> 03:43:21,000
companies as well.

2482
03:43:21,640 --> 03:43:30,420
A or better from the top three tier rating agencies such as Moody's, S&P, AMBets, an addition

2483
03:43:30,420 --> 03:43:35,320
I think you need to consult with an insurance expert in the best industry to make sure that

2484
03:43:35,320 --> 03:43:42,420
the insurance covers all types of claims that may be needed with a thermal runaway or

2485
03:43:42,420 --> 03:43:44,800
any other type of disaster.

2486
03:43:46,400 --> 03:43:51,860
And then additionally, you know, next era, which is in connection with the Corbure Project

2487
03:43:51,860 --> 03:43:56,160
VISTA since their first time where they attempted to put a best on farmland.

2488
03:43:56,160 --> 03:44:03,700
And I specifically cited a county in the state of Washington who also adopted an ordinance

2489
03:44:03,700 --> 03:44:12,720
that prohibited best projects on farm and land because like in our county, this particular

2490
03:44:12,720 --> 03:44:20,400
county as stated in the resolution, they indicated that agricultural land was a cornerstone

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03:44:20,400 --> 03:44:23,560
to their economy and culture and history, just like here.

2492
03:44:23,560 --> 03:44:29,260
and then I also tried it on the 8th law. Okay thank you. Thank you Alicia.

2493
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Have any more online?

2494
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We do, we have two more. Okay, let's call her with phone number ending in 1-9. Please press star 6

2495
03:44:38,800 --> 03:44:40,720
to unmute yourself and state your name if you wish.

2496
03:44:47,690 --> 03:44:50,490
Hello my name is Wendy Brecken. I'm a resident

2497
03:44:50,490 --> 03:44:59,410
of Vacaville and I also sent an email to county boarder supervisors. I don't remember I think it was

2498
03:44:59,410 --> 03:44:59,730
Friday.

2499
03:45:00,850 --> 03:45:12,430
And what I'm saying is that consistent with orderly growth initiative and measure key that gives you pretty much a duty to protect

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03:45:12,430 --> 03:45:25,110
ask for culture land, parks and recreation, marshes and water bodies and courses. Your, your attempting as best you can to protect these areas.

2501
03:45:25,110 --> 03:45:34,910
And it's my understanding that with the, I guess it's a conditional use process, as people apply,

2502
03:45:35,530 --> 03:45:44,430
you'll be taking a closer look at each of these duties to protect these areas of land or water.

2503
03:45:45,170 --> 03:45:53,150
The ordinance is a reasonable use of zoning police powers in state and federal constitutions.

2504
03:45:53,150 --> 03:45:59,550
Due to all the risks already discussed in the record, there are examples of best ordinances

2505
03:45:59,930 --> 03:46:06,430
and other jurisdictions that also provide similar protections.

2506
03:46:07,510 --> 03:46:10,350
They were upheld as being reasonably valid.

2507
03:46:12,410 --> 03:46:22,890
In addition, when the CEC reviews the poor beside, for example, and has to take a look at

2508
03:46:22,890 --> 03:46:29,270
the local laws, including Measure T, the state statute that reportedly gives the CEC

2509
03:46:29,270 --> 03:46:35,370
authority to preempt or disregard local law, cannot be used on Measure T. A local voter

2510
03:46:35,370 --> 03:46:42,910
initiative, excuse me, holds the same weight as a state initiative, court guard voter initiatives

2511
03:46:42,910 --> 03:46:52,710
against the legislature's attempt to undermine them. There's multiple examples of how

2512
03:46:52,710 --> 03:47:01,490
a Corby site, for example, would be inconsistent with the general plan because, as Ms. Minion was saying,

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03:47:02,130 --> 03:47:08,590
the Lana County uniquely relies on our agricultural economy, which feeds the world and is responsible

2514
03:47:08,590 --> 03:47:14,310
for a large portion of the county's annual income. Thus, there are strict limitations on development

2515
03:47:14,310 --> 03:47:22,350
and lands designated as agriculture and re-designating the land for best facilities is completely

2516
03:47:22,710 --> 03:47:27,530
entirely inconsistent with the general plan. Agriculture land may only be

2517
03:47:27,530 --> 03:47:33,290
re-designated pursuant to the general plan with certain sections P32 and

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AgP36. I thank you again for all your hard work on this

2519
03:47:37,670 --> 03:47:43,610
and trying to thread this needle to do the best that you can to protect our people

2520
03:47:43,610 --> 03:47:45,150
and our resources. Thank you.

2521
03:47:50,300 --> 03:47:51,980
All are with fund number ending in

2522
03:47:51,980 --> 03:47:55,700
and two, two, please press star six to unmute yourself

2523
03:47:55,700 --> 03:47:57,060
and state your name if you wish.

2524
03:48:01,890 --> 03:48:02,690
Yes, we can.

2525
03:48:03,810 --> 03:48:04,690
Thank you.

2526
03:48:05,110 --> 03:48:06,890
Good afternoon, and thank you to the board

2527
03:48:06,890 --> 03:48:08,310
of supervisors and staff.

2528
03:48:08,710 --> 03:48:10,650
My name is Dee Cole, and I'm a resident

2529
03:48:10,650 --> 03:48:12,210
on the corner of Kilkenny Road

2530
03:48:12,810 --> 03:48:15,270
that's directly adjacent to the proposed next-era

2531
03:48:15,270 --> 03:48:17,690
Corby project at Kilkenny and Burns Road

2532
03:48:17,690 --> 03:48:20,630
in back of those one county that we're all familiar with.

2533
03:48:21,070 --> 03:48:23,130
I apologize that I couldn't make it there today

2534
03:48:23,130 --> 03:48:23,590
in person.

2535
03:48:23,990 --> 03:48:25,490
I'm walking online and it's amazing

2536
03:48:25,490 --> 03:48:28,590
to see my neighbors and community there to support this today.

2537
03:48:29,170 --> 03:48:31,890
I won't take much of your time because you've heard my voice previously.

2538
03:48:32,290 --> 03:48:36,930
I'd just like to reiterate my concern for projects like this being brought into our community

2539
03:48:37,390 --> 03:48:41,330
and let you know that I fully support the changes to the moratorium that will add protection

2540
03:48:41,330 --> 03:48:42,390
for our community.

2541
03:48:42,990 --> 03:48:46,970
I pray that this gets a five out of five vote today and that we can work towards bringing

2542
03:48:46,970 --> 03:48:51,390
the decisions on what comes into our county back into the hands of our county.

2543
03:48:52,290 --> 03:48:55,490
I sincerely thank you again for your time and dedication to this matter.

2544
03:48:55,890 --> 03:48:59,530
I want to continue to grow my non-contaminated tomatoes.

2545
03:49:00,070 --> 03:49:03,030
I hope you all have a great day, so thank you so much for everything.

2546
03:49:07,290 --> 03:49:09,450
All right, so then we'll go back to our cards here.

2547
03:49:10,150 --> 03:49:11,090
Jeff Jaigle.

2548
03:49:17,730 --> 03:49:17,910
Hello.

2549
03:49:18,930 --> 03:49:23,010
Property owner within a mile of this mess, whatever.

2550
03:49:24,490 --> 03:49:28,870
Yeah, I support it, the ordinance so you want to see your backyard.

2551
03:49:30,010 --> 03:49:33,350
forstime you basically. Thank you.

2552
03:49:35,010 --> 03:49:35,650
Robin.

2553
03:49:43,860 --> 03:49:50,720
My name is Robin and we live less than a mile from this proposed site that they plan on using.

2554
03:49:51,540 --> 03:49:56,160
I've been online for months now looking up information regarding these facilities

2555
03:49:56,160 --> 03:49:58,780
and I haven't seen anything that's good for us at all.

2556
03:49:59,440 --> 03:50:02,440
There is no benefit to us in this city.

2557
03:50:03,460 --> 03:50:06,460
And I am city, where I live is city, it's right there on the border.

2558
03:50:07,500 --> 03:50:11,640
And I support what you're trying to do with this ordinance, with the updates that you've done.

2559
03:50:12,440 --> 03:50:12,800
Thanks.

2560
03:50:13,220 --> 03:50:13,660
Thank you, ma'am.

2561
03:50:14,580 --> 03:50:17,080
Next up is Dr. Carmen Martinez-Coldaro.

2562
03:50:21,510 --> 03:50:23,250
Good afternoon, Chair, members of the board.

2563
03:50:23,490 --> 03:50:27,350
Thank you for the opportunity, again, to speak before you on this particular topic.

2564
03:50:27,970 --> 03:50:33,910
I am here today to support the amendments proposed to this ordinance.

2565
03:50:33,910 --> 03:50:39,470
And more importantly, I urge you to adopt it as a permanent ordinance moving forward.

2566
03:50:39,890 --> 03:50:43,070
Because as we know, this is not an issue that is going to go away overnight.

2567
03:50:43,770 --> 03:50:52,290
And I can't thank you enough for taking action to not only protect the residents who live near these areas, but

2568
03:50:52,290 --> 03:50:54,210
most importantly also to protect our egglands.

2569
03:50:54,670 --> 03:50:59,890
So as somebody who would live three doors down from this proposed next era project,

2570
03:50:59,890 --> 03:51:05,190
Again, I urge you to please adopt this today and to adopt it moving forward permanently.

2571
03:51:05,690 --> 03:51:05,990
Thank you.

2572
03:51:08,300 --> 03:51:09,900
Next up is Sarah Dunne.

2573
03:51:15,960 --> 03:51:17,940
Hello, board and chair.

2574
03:51:18,620 --> 03:51:25,720
Thanks for bringing this item up today and having this opportunity to review the proposed changes to the moratorium.

2575
03:51:25,940 --> 03:51:28,660
I think this is a really good plan going forward.

2576
03:51:29,040 --> 03:51:34,060
It gives some ability for developers to pursue a local permit.

2577
03:51:34,060 --> 03:51:40,340
And it also shows our state that we're willing to have designated areas for them in our county.

2578
03:51:40,600 --> 03:51:48,060
But the most importantly, it fixed a loophole that existed in our county code before that was allowing these facilities to apply as a utility.

2579
03:51:48,580 --> 03:51:51,060
And that would be close, that loophole would be close today.

2580
03:51:51,540 --> 03:51:58,120
So projects that would be proposed on Agland would be kicked back to Measure T and have to go to the ballot.

2581
03:51:58,520 --> 03:52:03,280
And that's very important because as I'm learning in our general plan,

2582
03:52:03,280 --> 03:52:07,140
And this is a decades-long effort to protect our Ag Land.

2583
03:52:07,340 --> 03:52:11,720
And it's very important between all I've learned about our county,

2584
03:52:11,860 --> 03:52:13,360
the different developments coming in.

2585
03:52:13,700 --> 03:52:16,680
You have California, FRE, FFRE, you have Dixon having a lot of development,

2586
03:52:16,900 --> 03:52:19,020
you have these battery storage facilities coming in.

2587
03:52:19,460 --> 03:52:22,600
And soon we're going to lose what our county is all about.

2588
03:52:22,780 --> 03:52:28,830
If these things all get built in a crazy layout of where they want it and

2589
03:52:28,830 --> 03:52:33,070
or doesn't make sense for our county, it's gonna be detrimental.

2590
03:52:33,850 --> 03:52:43,570
So, this ordinance amendment is crucial, I feel honestly, no place is gonna be 100% safe to have these facilities.

2591
03:52:44,090 --> 03:52:50,070
Unfortunately, the lithium ion does have really bad risks and they have a history of catching fire and we all know that.

2592
03:52:50,270 --> 03:52:52,790
So, there's nowhere that is 100% safe.

2593
03:52:52,790 --> 03:53:00,710
But if I had to pick a zone to designate them in the industrial zones totally makes sense as it was stated earlier there is other

2594
03:53:00,710 --> 03:53:05,990
types of projects there that have risks as well and that's not changing anything on our

2595
03:53:06,630 --> 03:53:11,270
County general plan they already we already have these designated areas. So

2596
03:53:11,270 --> 03:53:14,130
having that kind of ability for

2597
03:53:14,710 --> 03:53:19,030
Developers to do a local permit process would really help us and

2598
03:53:19,030 --> 03:53:24,070
And also, you still have the stopgap of having the final say whether the project gets approved.

2599
03:53:24,930 --> 03:53:27,590
And a lot of work has gone into this ordinance process.

2600
03:53:28,210 --> 03:53:31,550
There's a lot of different criteria that would have to be met for them to be approved.

2601
03:53:32,550 --> 03:53:34,370
And I feel it's a good plan.

2602
03:53:35,970 --> 03:53:37,330
So I want to express my support.

2603
03:53:37,830 --> 03:53:41,310
And I also want to urge you to adopt this as a permanent ordinance as well.

2604
03:53:41,650 --> 03:53:41,890
Thank you.

2605
03:53:42,790 --> 03:53:43,670
Oh, one more thing.

2606
03:53:43,770 --> 03:53:44,690
I'm not done with my time.

2607
03:53:45,210 --> 03:53:45,850
I almost forgot.

2608
03:53:45,850 --> 03:54:15,810
Yeah, so we last meeting there was in the ordinance draft it did have commercial services and I spoke about this last time I feel that commercial services zones are not appropriate for lithium ion technology because of the risks and the commercial services zones are typically near our freeways and businesses and we don't want to have them financially impacted if they have to evacuate for a fire at these such facilities so one compromise would be to allow safer technologies to exist in those

2609
03:54:15,810 --> 03:54:19,770
zones because I'm assuming the feedback you're going to get is that there's not enough

2610
03:54:19,770 --> 03:54:25,610
areas to build these and that's not fair. There's not enough industrial zones in our county

2611
03:54:25,610 --> 03:54:29,610
but opening up those commercial zones with different technologies that don't pose the

2612
03:54:29,610 --> 03:54:34,670
same risk might be a good compromise. Additionally, the technologies that I'm talking about,

2613
03:54:34,930 --> 03:54:38,910
some of them are available as soon as 18 months. So it's not far off. And there's a bunch

2614
03:54:38,910 --> 03:54:44,070
of them, probably six or seven different technologies that could be viable and do the same thing

2615
03:54:44,070 --> 03:54:49,690
is a lithium and they are much safer, so that would be a compromise I'd recommend.

2616
03:54:50,390 --> 03:54:51,570
Thank you, ma'am.

2617
03:54:53,090 --> 03:54:54,130
Supervisor Vesca, sir.

2618
03:54:55,050 --> 03:54:55,270
Okay.

2619
03:54:55,790 --> 03:54:56,250
All right.

2620
03:54:56,450 --> 03:54:58,230
So with that, I don't have any more public comment cards.

2621
03:54:58,450 --> 03:54:59,730
I don't have anybody else online.

2622
03:55:00,130 --> 03:55:02,770
I'll close the public hearing and take it back in the hands of the board.

2623
03:55:03,330 --> 03:55:04,430
Supervisor Vesca, sir.

2624
03:55:06,730 --> 03:55:10,870
I'd like to make a motion to adopt and accept staff's recommendations.

2625
03:55:11,690 --> 03:55:12,630
I'd like to second that.

2626
03:55:12,630 --> 03:55:16,710
that? Is there any other questions on the board before we take a vote on this item?

2627
03:55:18,850 --> 03:55:19,670
Yes, ma'am.

2628
03:55:23,060 --> 03:55:29,940
And I've heard everyone's voice and of course last meeting, I voted for this to come back

2629
03:55:29,940 --> 03:55:36,980
for us because I do care about all the cities. Not just my district, I care for all the

2630
03:55:36,980 --> 03:55:45,360
districts and I want everyone to feel safe. But as we move forward, I want to make sure

2631
03:55:45,360 --> 03:55:48,620
that we definitely are paying very close attention.

2632
03:55:48,940 --> 03:55:56,240
And I want to meet with staff to go over what these plumes would look like and how detrimental

2633
03:55:56,240 --> 03:56:03,620
is it to people's health and that's going to be important for me going forward as we look

2634
03:56:03,620 --> 03:56:10,960
at this because like someone said no place is a great place but if we can get it as far away

2635
03:56:10,960 --> 03:56:18,800
from where people live is better and I really don't want it to catch on fire

2636
03:56:18,800 --> 03:56:26,780
Travis Air Force lathe. Three miles is nothing. So I just wanted to, did you say

2637
03:56:26,780 --> 03:56:31,640
something? Oh, I just wanted to add those comments as we get ready to take this

2638
03:56:31,640 --> 03:56:32,660
fall. Thank you.

2639
03:56:43,230 --> 03:56:45,970
So ordered by a vote of 5-0. Thank you.

2640
03:56:58,340 --> 03:56:58,920
Thank you.

2641
03:57:23,010 --> 03:57:24,690
All right,

2642
03:57:24,690 --> 03:57:29,610
All right, I'm going to call this meeting back to order kind of

2643
03:57:30,590 --> 03:57:32,410
Salano County Board of Supervisor

2644
03:57:33,210 --> 03:57:35,510
Madam Clerk item 27 please

2645
03:57:39,410 --> 03:57:47,750
The Department of Resource Management recommends that the Board of Supervisors receive a presentation from staff on continued discussion on scope and issues

2646
03:57:47,750 --> 03:57:54,210
Identification for the county's general plan update provide feedback and direction to staff on next steps

2647
03:57:55,030 --> 03:57:58,910
All right, I'm going to go ahead and start it. Oh

2648
03:57:59,290 --> 03:58:07,590
All right, sorry, I just wanted to make a couple of preliminary comments here as we get into this.

2649
03:58:08,330 --> 03:58:14,110
As the board knows, we first started talking about the general plan update, came before in March.

2650
03:58:14,430 --> 03:58:22,030
And it was sort of the broad discussion about what a general plan is under California state law and a little bit of detail about our plan.

2651
03:58:22,030 --> 03:58:29,210
And then part of that was that there was a direction for us to approach the cities about

2652
03:58:29,210 --> 03:58:35,370
participating in a summit, because it's part of an early kick-in and evaluation of how

2653
03:58:35,370 --> 03:58:38,890
cities and their growth plans might relate to our general plan update.

2654
03:58:40,270 --> 03:58:45,530
So we did go to the four Cs, we actually got okay from them and moved forward with the summit

2655
03:58:45,530 --> 03:58:47,230
in participation from the cities.

2656
03:58:48,190 --> 03:58:53,670
And we had planned for that originally to be in August, August 19th was the date we were targeting.

2657
03:58:54,430 --> 03:58:58,810
We did get a letter from the city managers asking for additional time.

2658
03:58:59,090 --> 03:59:07,130
And so we agreed to push it off and we'll continue to work with them on coming up with the time to come before the board on a summit.

2659
03:59:08,230 --> 03:59:15,870
And in lieu of that, though, did have a discussion with the chair and the vice chair about, well we want to continue to have some dialogue about the general plan update.

2660
03:59:15,870 --> 03:59:18,090
It takes time, so we have a lot of steps to it.

2661
03:59:18,730 --> 03:59:26,430
So we thought we'd come back and sort of maybe go from a general plan, one A session to a general plan, one B session, which is in this case.

2662
03:59:27,130 --> 03:59:32,290
But what we're talking about is getting beyond sort of the state statutory requirements and things like that.

2663
03:59:32,790 --> 03:59:44,510
And talking a little bit about our 2020, excuse me, the 2008 general plan talking about our priorities that have emerged over the last couple of years before the board.

2664
03:59:44,510 --> 03:59:49,810
and then sort of looking at those relative to the general plan and the general plan policies from 2008

2665
03:59:49,810 --> 03:59:58,870
start looking at how we can move forward. The board has given us direction previously that we're probably going to do more of a targeted update to the general plan rather than a complete rewrite.

2666
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:29,000
I've been going through this thing. It's a lot of fun reading. It's a lot there, but there's a lot of good material in our current general plan. I think John and others who've been around know that there was a lot of work that went into it. Don't think we have to throw it all out. You know, I think there's a lot of relevance still in there. But we do identify some areas, and that's part of what we're going to try to do today is start talking about some of the areas where perhaps we should be looking at making some changes to policy and things like that. Some of it relates to just changing times.

2667
04:00:29,000 --> 04:00:47,140
You know, it's been 20 years or so, things have changed and we've seen that happen in real time whether it was dealing with the wind energy issues that we've had to deal with subsequent to the 2008 general plan issues with Travis Air Force based radar, solar energy and now we're talking battery storage and all those things have happened.

2668
04:00:47,860 --> 04:00:56,160
The retail world has changed a lot of things and so there are areas, you know, particularly if you like you look in the general plan from 2008.

2669
04:00:56,160 --> 04:01:02,340
There's an economic development section, but it's pretty short and really focused it may be broader than just the

2670
04:01:02,340 --> 04:01:09,560
Unincorporary area but also the cities. I think based on our priorities, we probably want to take a look at adding some policy that deals with the

2671
04:01:09,560 --> 04:01:15,760
Unincorporated areas and what our opportunities are there. So with that, I'm going to go ahead and turn it over. This is just another

2672
04:01:16,440 --> 04:01:23,180
discussion, you know, we'll keep moving forward, but we thought it was important to keep some of the men ongoing towards an ultimate update.

2673
04:01:23,180 --> 04:01:26,280
And ultimately, we will bring in a consultant team to help with this, as the board

2674
04:01:26,280 --> 04:01:27,360
knows that's pretty typical.

2675
04:01:27,360 --> 04:01:30,940
But we're trying to make sure that before we do that, we start to frame the issues

2676
04:01:30,940 --> 04:01:34,560
as tight as we can, because consultants are only as good as the information they're

2677
04:01:34,560 --> 04:01:37,820
getting from the entity that they're working for.

2678
04:01:37,960 --> 04:01:41,100
So, James, I'm going to tear it up to you guys.

2679
04:01:41,380 --> 04:01:41,480
Thanks.

2680
04:01:42,260 --> 04:01:46,140
James' music director resource management with me is JT Lee, he's with our plan department

2681
04:01:46,140 --> 04:01:50,320
and our division, and we have staff in the audience as well as questions come up.

2682
04:01:50,320 --> 04:01:57,660
So, it's bill indicated, he sort of covered the slide, so I'll jump from that and get into sort of some of the information that we want to present today.

2683
04:01:59,420 --> 04:02:07,000
We pulled this, I was talking about bill, and he thought it important that we bring forward and show the preamble, the vision preamble that's part of the 2008 general plan.

2684
04:02:07,460 --> 04:02:14,000
It's a couple pages long, and so we wanted just to focus everyone to the vision that was established in 2008.

2685
04:02:14,000 --> 04:02:19,000
And the vision for Stalin County is found on the principles of the environment, the economy, and social equity.

2686
04:02:19,320 --> 04:02:22,300
Those are sort of the guiding principles that were utilized to develop the chapters.

2687
04:02:22,640 --> 04:02:29,980
It fits into what sort of the elements are required from the state, and it's sort of the backbone for the structure of the document.

2688
04:02:30,420 --> 04:02:35,180
That vision for the county as a whole is recognizing that Stalin County must work collaboratively with the cities and

2689
04:02:35,180 --> 04:02:36,900
other public agencies to achieve this vision.

2690
04:02:37,280 --> 04:02:39,620
And so we want to continue that dialogue and continue moving forward.

2691
04:02:39,620 --> 04:02:45,340
forward. So again, this is just a point back to where we were and just give some general

2692
04:02:45,340 --> 04:02:49,960
information about what is our plan is. It's the comprehensive policy document. We look

2693
04:02:49,960 --> 04:02:55,420
for it to provide the vision as I had stated. And it's got a 20-year, 20-30-year-life time

2694
04:02:55,420 --> 04:03:00,100
frame span that it works. We've last brought forward in 2008 and we're coming up on that sort

2695
04:03:00,100 --> 04:03:05,400
of 20-year milestone. It's required to understate planning law for every city and county in California.

2696
04:03:05,400 --> 04:03:08,200
And it serves as our constitution for development.

2697
04:03:08,620 --> 04:03:13,740
So it's our agency's legal document relating to growth, development, and resource management.

2698
04:03:13,940 --> 04:03:17,160
And it can span a broad range of topics, as you can see from all the chapters that we have.

2699
04:03:17,900 --> 04:03:23,200
All development related regulations, zoning, subdivision ordinance, they must be consistent with the general plan.

2700
04:03:23,680 --> 04:03:28,580
And when we go through the process of reviewing projects and dealing with applications, we seek consistency.

2701
04:03:29,020 --> 04:03:35,220
And I think that that's what we try to bring to the board so you can understand the consistency with that document to help inform the decisions that you make to.

2702
04:03:35,220 --> 04:03:39,300
to move this forward. And if I'm going too fast, tell me to slow it down.

2703
04:03:40,700 --> 04:03:47,020
We have a lot of slides. So, as I mentioned, you know, our general plan is broken into chapters

2704
04:03:47,020 --> 04:03:50,520
which relate to the elements. I'm not going to go through the whole list, but these are the

2705
04:03:50,520 --> 04:03:55,280
chapters that our general plan has founded on. And we handle a lot of information within that.

2706
04:03:55,420 --> 04:04:00,820
We solve a lot of problems, and we sort of set and done great things in the past 20 years

2707
04:04:00,820 --> 04:04:01,960
with these guidelines.

2708
04:04:04,040 --> 04:04:09,160
From a history standpoint, actually it was a very interesting one of the collars for the best item.

2709
04:04:10,160 --> 04:04:14,460
I don't know, I don't think she saw the slide, but she pretty much nailed it.

2710
04:04:14,760 --> 04:04:19,980
So, in 1980, we sort of brought forward the first comprehensive general plan for the county.

2711
04:04:20,760 --> 04:04:23,720
And then in 1984, Proposition A came forward.

2712
04:04:24,300 --> 04:04:27,900
And that was reaffirming the general plan's policies of city-centered growth,

2713
04:04:27,900 --> 04:04:33,300
required ballot measures for approval for any re-designation of a general plan agricultural land.

2714
04:04:33,880 --> 04:04:39,020
It was the sort of first instances of the early orderly growth initiative.

2715
04:04:39,660 --> 04:04:42,980
And as you can see in 1994, orderly growth initiative was brought forward.

2716
04:04:43,100 --> 04:04:45,500
The voters proposed and the Board of Supervisors approved this.

2717
04:04:45,940 --> 04:04:50,580
It was an extension of Proposition 8, and it was good until December 31, 2010.

2718
04:04:51,380 --> 04:04:55,600
Preemptive of that, the, in 2008, it's part of our comprehensive update of the general plan.

2719
04:04:55,600 --> 04:05:01,780
The order with orderly growth initiative was extended to December of 2028 with a passage of

2720
04:05:01,780 --> 04:05:05,160
measure T and that coincided with the planning time frame of the general plan.

2721
04:05:05,340 --> 04:05:11,820
So measure T is one of our critical documents or critical guiding principles that sort of inform our general plan.

2722
04:05:14,470 --> 04:05:17,990
This is sort of a typical general plan update flow chart.

2723
04:05:18,290 --> 04:05:22,730
It's not necessarily meant to be comprehensive, but it does indicate and

2724
04:05:22,730 --> 04:05:25,910
And it focuses on the importance of significant community outreach.

2725
04:05:26,650 --> 04:05:30,150
It requires extensive data analysis as Bill had indicated.

2726
04:05:30,350 --> 04:05:34,390
We're going to be looking for consultants, plural, to assist us with this process.

2727
04:05:34,690 --> 04:05:38,270
And it's not only looking into the past, but it's trying to look to the future.

2728
04:05:39,170 --> 04:05:40,890
It's not an exact linear process.

2729
04:05:41,070 --> 04:05:46,110
So as you can see from the jumble of arrows, there's a lot of process that it goes through.

2730
04:05:46,510 --> 04:05:51,930
And it can go around, it can sort of go back and forth within that to make sure you're really hitting the topics that you need to hit.

2731
04:05:52,730 --> 04:06:03,650
And then, we are looking for a targeted versus a complete update to sort of keep that process on the 2028 track, and not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

2732
04:06:03,750 --> 04:06:14,870
I think we have a lot of strong bones with the 2008 journal plan, and I think that through the discussion with this board and the public, we can have very targeted updates that will have meaningful effect.

2733
04:06:18,580 --> 04:06:25,560
So on the screen are some examples, some of the items that we've implemented since 2008, it's a pretty broad list.

2734
04:06:25,660 --> 04:06:31,360
We brought most of these forward at the March meeting, and unless you want me to go through all of them,

2735
04:06:32,000 --> 04:06:33,120
we've done some good work.

2736
04:06:33,360 --> 04:06:37,780
I'd like to say that some of it was anticipated this part of the general plan, like Middlegreen Valley and

2737
04:06:37,780 --> 04:06:43,740
Sassoon Valley, but some of it came at the, or as an extension of it.

2738
04:06:43,740 --> 04:06:46,960
And so, you know, we've done some part of the market route investments.

2739
04:06:47,160 --> 04:06:48,060
We've done shoulder widening.

2740
04:06:48,160 --> 04:06:52,820
Some of those things are not necessarily generally identified in the general plan,

2741
04:06:53,000 --> 04:06:55,320
but they can happen as part of the natural processes.

2742
04:06:55,320 --> 04:06:57,880
We go through the different aspects of what we do on a day-to-day basis.

2743
04:06:58,320 --> 04:07:01,700
James, on that one, I just wanted to say, so these are things that came out of the general plan.

2744
04:07:01,700 --> 04:07:05,360
But I was thinking about that period of time, and so there's some of you remember some of these things,

2745
04:07:05,480 --> 04:07:07,660
but it goes to show you how things change, right?

2746
04:07:07,740 --> 04:07:12,420
So we had, you know, the cannabis discussion which took quite some time,

2747
04:07:12,420 --> 04:07:15,000
never really was addressed in the general plan.

2748
04:07:15,440 --> 04:07:18,160
We had industrial hemp was another one that came up.

2749
04:07:18,560 --> 04:07:21,920
Short-term vacation rentals, there's just been a lot

2750
04:07:21,920 --> 04:07:22,920
of things that have come up.

2751
04:07:24,160 --> 04:07:31,180
There is, you know, you do the best you can to plan for everything,

2752
04:07:31,360 --> 04:07:34,280
but there are things in the world spinning fast.

2753
04:07:34,580 --> 04:07:37,740
So we can anticipate that we'll be continuing the case,

2754
04:07:37,880 --> 04:07:41,300
but this is a good assessment of things that actually did come

2755
04:07:41,300 --> 04:07:44,680
I'm out of the general plan update that we have been working on or completed.

2756
04:07:45,300 --> 04:07:46,020
Great, thanks Bill.

2757
04:07:46,580 --> 04:08:10,680
So, to transition and pivot into sort of the discussion for today, we're going to start with the board priorities that were identified by this board on multiple occasions, we went through and sort of talked to them and we're trying to seek some form of alignment, maybe some areas where there is coverage in the general plan and some of the areas that we may need to look at through the any updates to further reinforce the board's priorities.

2758
04:08:11,200 --> 04:08:19,300
What we have on screen is, you know, there are more priorities in that list that aren't

2759
04:08:19,300 --> 04:08:22,780
included on this list because we wanted to focus it more on the general plan and the

2760
04:08:22,780 --> 04:08:23,840
resource management world.

2761
04:08:24,460 --> 04:08:27,700
Obviously, the rest of the priorities are important and they do have some nexus.

2762
04:08:28,180 --> 04:08:32,580
But for this discussion, we want to focus on the economic development, the housing, and

2763
04:08:32,580 --> 04:08:36,840
the agricultural priorities that you identified through the multiple sessions that we held.

2764
04:08:37,460 --> 04:08:44,360
What you see on screen is each of the priorities, E1 through E4, H2, H1, H2, A1, 3, A3.

2765
04:08:44,740 --> 04:08:49,920
And on the end, we've got the designation and the general plan that we saw as a very

2766
04:08:49,920 --> 04:08:54,400
close relation to the particular priority.

2767
04:08:55,060 --> 04:08:58,320
And on the next slide, you'll see we'll break these out so we provide more definition.

2768
04:08:58,840 --> 04:09:04,180
I believe that we handed the board sort of a cheat sheet and we put it in the back.

2769
04:09:04,180 --> 04:09:09,280
It's a little bit more further detail in each of these priorities and

2770
04:09:09,280 --> 04:09:12,880
their relation to the general plan policies and goals that we've identified.

2771
04:09:16,970 --> 04:09:21,390
So to lead it off, we're going to start with the board priority of economic development, E1.

2772
04:09:22,250 --> 04:09:28,270
And the E1 priority was focused on engaging stakeholders on economic development.

2773
04:09:29,310 --> 04:09:33,210
The closest next as we saw in the general plan is the land use policy one.

2774
04:09:33,450 --> 04:09:36,970
And it's to collaborate with cities to guide development to the county's urban centers and

2775
04:09:36,970 --> 04:09:38,570
and promotes sustainable development patterns.

2776
04:09:39,770 --> 04:09:41,770
That aligns with measure T and that's sort of the goal

2777
04:09:41,770 --> 04:09:44,410
that we have had with the focus of everything in the city.

2778
04:09:45,410 --> 04:09:48,890
When we start focusing more on economic development

2779
04:09:48,890 --> 04:09:52,530
and the interest of incorporating economic development

2780
04:09:52,530 --> 04:09:54,470
into more into the unincorporated area,

2781
04:09:54,930 --> 04:09:56,330
there is a little bit of a fracture

2782
04:09:56,330 --> 04:09:58,070
that we would have to discuss and figure out

2783
04:09:58,070 --> 04:10:00,750
how we incorporate into any updates to the general plan.

2784
04:10:02,130 --> 04:10:04,490
The italicized bullets are just some of the things

2785
04:10:04,490 --> 04:10:10,090
that we, when we're looking through the general plan and relating it to the priorities,

2786
04:10:10,590 --> 04:10:14,570
these are some of the questions that we think may be discussed and just a starting point.

2787
04:10:14,890 --> 04:10:18,050
And on every one of the slides, I have other board input.

2788
04:10:18,690 --> 04:10:24,290
And the idea is here is that the bullets that are shown are not exhaustive, and they are just

2789
04:10:24,290 --> 04:10:25,250
meant to be a starting point.

2790
04:10:25,390 --> 04:10:30,230
So in our discussions, the current general plan broadly addresses economic development at

2791
04:10:30,230 --> 04:10:34,110
a regional scale, but it does not focus on the unincorporated areas.

2792
04:10:34,430 --> 04:10:38,870
And so, to expand the economic development into those areas, we would need to discuss

2793
04:10:38,870 --> 04:10:40,810
how that is incorporated into the general plan.

2794
04:10:42,750 --> 04:10:46,650
We think that as part of that process, we explore holding the summit to convene stakeholders

2795
04:10:46,650 --> 04:10:51,650
in relation to discuss the topic of engaging the stakeholders in economic development, and

2796
04:10:51,650 --> 04:10:54,970
we would explore community outreach during the general plan update to include the community.

2797
04:10:54,970 --> 04:11:06,910
So, the goal here would be to take the priority that the board has for economic development, discuss with the public on how that is integrated into the general plan and come back and use that as a process of developing it.

2798
04:11:07,730 --> 04:11:15,110
When I say other board input, if you want to talk about it now or if you want to think about it later and discuss it, want to be this more of a discussion that we can gather information.

2799
04:11:15,470 --> 04:11:17,410
So, if you want to pause here on that, yes.

2800
04:11:21,170 --> 04:11:34,310
Every time I drive down where Budweiser is, and I know that the baseball field does not ours for anything like that, but there's that big green spot in front of them, whatever that street is that I take.

2801
04:11:35,090 --> 04:11:39,710
Okay, and there's also where Highway 12 goes over Chadborne.

2802
04:11:40,630 --> 04:11:49,830
Okay, so my thought is I don't know who owns that, but if we were able to put in some sort of a motel because in Cordelia.

2803
04:11:50,510 --> 04:11:57,850
on central way they're putting in two new hotels and they're cramming them in next to where you

2804
04:11:57,850 --> 04:12:02,750
can go play miniature golf right there as well as over where the Starbucks is. I mean you have

2805
04:12:02,750 --> 04:12:08,110
to have your priorities anyway but if we could do something along those lines and I was just I don't

2806
04:12:08,110 --> 04:12:13,750
know who owns that land so that we could get some TOT. I apologize I have a cough drop in my mouth here

2807
04:12:14,270 --> 04:12:19,750
but that's what I'm looking at and so in the land that's in front of Budweiser does Budweiser own

2808
04:12:19,750 --> 04:12:25,550
all of that. And if so, what is their game plan? Because we could maybe work with Budweiser

2809
04:12:25,550 --> 04:12:30,130
as to what it is because manufacturing. I'm just trying to come up with some things

2810
04:12:30,130 --> 04:12:35,630
that what we could be able to do to have jobs locally. But maybe they don't want that

2811
04:12:35,630 --> 04:12:42,950
baseball field anymore. Maybe we could put in some, you know, two or three story nice condos

2812
04:12:42,950 --> 04:12:48,910
or something like that so that people could buy and own and still maybe find some sort

2813
04:12:49,830 --> 04:12:53,950
So anyway, those are my thoughts, which is what happens when you have me in the car driving

2814
04:12:53,950 --> 04:12:54,230
home.

2815
04:12:54,710 --> 04:12:57,570
And with those, that's the important thing about what we're doing today.

2816
04:12:57,910 --> 04:13:00,970
It's an introduction to some of the, to start thinking about some of those concepts,

2817
04:13:01,570 --> 04:13:04,630
understanding them as priorities and how we integrate into the general plan.

2818
04:13:05,030 --> 04:13:08,390
What you're describing is very difficult right now to do with our current general plan,

2819
04:13:08,530 --> 04:13:12,090
simply because of the provision of utilities that you need for hotels and things like that.

2820
04:13:12,210 --> 04:13:14,230
So it's a discussion that-

2821
04:13:14,230 --> 04:13:17,330
Well, the Walmart over there belongs to whom,

2822
04:13:17,650 --> 04:13:20,050
and it hasn't been used in what, 10 or 12 years,

2823
04:13:20,050 --> 04:13:21,070
or something like that.

2824
04:13:21,410 --> 04:13:22,730
So I don't know who owns it,

2825
04:13:22,770 --> 04:13:25,610
so when you talk about utilities and water and stuff that,

2826
04:13:26,190 --> 04:13:26,590
that's right.

2827
04:13:26,750 --> 04:13:28,470
And Chad Morns, not that far away,

2828
04:13:28,610 --> 04:13:31,070
you've got the hospital there.

2829
04:13:31,390 --> 04:13:32,510
I don't use that hospital.

2830
04:13:32,950 --> 04:13:34,390
But those are in the city of Fairfell though.

2831
04:13:34,470 --> 04:13:35,570
Those are all still in the city.

2832
04:13:35,850 --> 04:13:36,470
They're all in the city.

2833
04:13:36,510 --> 04:13:37,090
They're still in the city.

2834
04:13:37,470 --> 04:13:37,710
Okay.

2835
04:13:38,290 --> 04:13:41,270
But that's what I think we need to talk about,

2836
04:13:41,270 --> 04:13:48,210
is that what is it that we want? First off, I don't want anybody growing anything on my pumpkins, okay?

2837
04:13:48,430 --> 04:13:54,330
So that's just tomatoes or later pumpkins right now. So, but we need to figure out what is it that we need?

2838
04:13:54,530 --> 04:14:02,910
What is it that we see ourselves looking like in 10 or 15 years? And what is it that we can develop so that we get the income here?

2839
04:14:03,350 --> 04:14:10,850
I think this is nice that we, you know, to include the outreach with the cities, but the cities get the friggin taxes.

2840
04:14:11,290 --> 04:14:12,830
And that's not going to help us.

2841
04:14:12,910 --> 04:14:18,670
We just had a PowerPoint today that tells us we need to have more money coming into the county.

2842
04:14:20,050 --> 04:14:20,550
I'm sure.

2843
04:14:20,930 --> 04:14:21,190
Okay.

2844
04:14:21,690 --> 04:14:22,550
Those are my thoughts.

2845
04:14:22,970 --> 04:14:29,530
And that's part of what we're, for example, looking at with freeway interchange studies and things like that, where we are looking at areas that are unincorporated.

2846
04:14:30,010 --> 04:14:31,550
Some of them are already on the general plan.

2847
04:14:31,950 --> 04:14:35,550
I think we've talked about potential expansion of some of those as part of the general plan.

2848
04:14:35,550 --> 04:14:40,450
And so those are, as we dig in further, things will be looking.

2849
04:14:40,530 --> 04:14:44,450
John has a great idea that's not, so I'm hoping that comes to fruition.

2850
04:14:44,930 --> 04:14:48,930
But we need to look and ask ourselves in the empty space that we have.

2851
04:14:49,170 --> 04:14:52,510
If that's for us to have, but it's not being used for food,

2852
04:14:52,790 --> 04:14:59,610
what is it that we can do to generate income for the county as well as some of the other issues that we have?

2853
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:28,040
Housing, I'm just trying to, my feeling is all of this should just be, let's just throw it out and see what this, where this spaghetti hits on the, on the side of the wall, but we need to have conversations and stuff because John came up with that idea, I love that idea, let's see where, but even that little space that I'm talking about right there on Chadborne, there's things that can happen guys, but we need to figure it out. All right, Supervisor Williams has a question.

2854
04:15:28,040 --> 04:15:32,040
Well, I just wanted to discussion,

2855
04:15:35,070 --> 04:15:38,910
especially the priorities and reference to economic development.

2856
04:15:39,250 --> 04:15:45,470
I remember coming on to the board in 2023, and we talked about during the priority

2857
04:15:45,470 --> 04:15:54,150
session of having someone that we hire or come so, who has a background in economic development.

2858
04:15:54,150 --> 04:15:57,830
We're now in 2025 getting ready to go into 2026.

2859
04:15:58,310 --> 04:16:04,950
That has not come to fruition, and I appreciate all the hard work staff does putting this together.

2860
04:16:05,070 --> 04:16:12,610
But it would be really to our benefit as a county, especially if we're looking at economic development.

2861
04:16:12,870 --> 04:16:22,530
And then we have this unique law measure T that's also incorporated that it is to our benefit to bring someone

2862
04:16:22,530 --> 04:16:31,410
on who has the expertise and that's a subject matter expert in that to help us develop this out

2863
04:16:31,850 --> 04:16:39,570
so that we really can one create opportunities for economic development and get more funding

2864
04:16:39,570 --> 04:16:51,770
that we need so that we can service our community. Another thought is someone mentioned to me

2865
04:16:51,770 --> 04:16:57,550
And I thought it was a great idea was having a task force put together when we bring

2866
04:16:57,550 --> 04:17:03,890
those different stakeholders that actually know and have a strong background in economic

2867
04:17:03,890 --> 04:17:04,610
development.

2868
04:17:04,850 --> 04:17:10,230
And we can put something together or just a task force in general to help us develop

2869
04:17:10,230 --> 04:17:14,130
about our next steps in this general plan.

2870
04:17:14,630 --> 04:17:17,990
For me, this is going to be my very first general plan.

2871
04:17:18,510 --> 04:17:24,730
So, I'm super cautious because I know this is what 20 to 30 years out.

2872
04:17:25,290 --> 04:17:30,430
That is going to really impact a lot of people, so I just want us to do, and I know you're

2873
04:17:30,430 --> 04:17:33,450
doing all you can and you're doing a great job, you all are.

2874
04:17:34,090 --> 04:17:39,450
But I just think at this point, there comes a point in the time that we have to say, okay,

2875
04:17:39,550 --> 04:17:42,970
when we're going to bring that person on to help us move forward.

2876
04:17:43,770 --> 04:17:44,130
Thank you.

2877
04:17:44,870 --> 04:17:48,550
All right, I don't see any other questions yet from the board, although I do have one I'd like to.

2878
04:17:48,870 --> 04:17:55,370
On this particular slide, where we talk about collaboration with cities to guide development,

2879
04:17:55,530 --> 04:17:59,250
that's exactly what the counties working on right now, it's what we intended with the summit.

2880
04:17:59,850 --> 04:18:03,030
So that is very clear, we already headed that direction.

2881
04:18:03,390 --> 04:18:05,950
That's what's currently identified in our general plan.

2882
04:18:05,950 --> 04:18:06,210
Correct.

2883
04:18:06,490 --> 04:18:08,630
But we are already doing what we said we were going to do.

2884
04:18:08,870 --> 04:18:10,250
So I'm just pointing it out.

2885
04:18:10,250 --> 04:18:15,730
The other piece is that, where it speaks to the current general plan, that it broadly

2886
04:18:15,730 --> 04:18:19,810
addresses economic development at a regional scale and does not focus on unincorporated

2887
04:18:19,810 --> 04:18:20,210
areas.

2888
04:18:20,710 --> 04:18:25,690
And I think as we move forward, we need to bring a greater level of focus on the unincorporated

2889
04:18:25,690 --> 04:18:30,570
areas through the general plan, and it needs to speak to that, not just in broad terms,

2890
04:18:30,870 --> 04:18:36,070
but truly speak to some focused development in some areas of the unincorporated

2891
04:18:36,070 --> 04:18:40,210
area that are for the purposes of economic development.

2892
04:18:41,230 --> 04:18:46,650
And then I would absolutely agree with the convention of stakeholders and

2893
04:18:46,650 --> 04:18:48,870
the outreach to the community, that's all very important.

2894
04:18:49,430 --> 04:18:52,970
I think that one of the issues that we need to be looked at and

2895
04:18:54,190 --> 04:19:00,230
Supervisor Vaska has been asking for that since I got on the board that I can remember is that overarching study of infrastructure.

2896
04:19:00,230 --> 04:19:09,110
because we can't do any of this, whether it's regional and general or county and specific.

2897
04:19:09,490 --> 04:19:13,470
We can't do either one without knowing what utilities are needed and where,

2898
04:19:14,570 --> 04:19:22,330
what their availability is and what the plans are in the future of our utility providers to be able to facilitate that for us.

2899
04:19:23,670 --> 04:19:27,280
So anyway, enough on that slide.

2900
04:19:27,280 --> 04:19:27,740
Great.

2901
04:19:29,220 --> 04:19:33,560
E2, board prior to E2, is identified potential sites for academic development.

2902
04:19:33,860 --> 04:19:36,280
So it's a continuation of discussion of economic development.

2903
04:19:36,860 --> 04:19:41,140
In our current general plan, we have economic development goal number one, and it's maintaining

2904
04:19:41,140 --> 04:19:46,380
improve the county's strong, diversified economic base, and provide for a wide range of employment

2905
04:19:46,380 --> 04:19:50,080
opportunities and support services such as job training and childcare.

2906
04:19:50,820 --> 04:19:55,420
And the land use goal number three was to create sustainable communities with areas for employment,

2907
04:19:55,420 --> 04:20:00,840
shopping, housing, public facilities, and services, and recreation and close proximity to each other.

2908
04:20:01,000 --> 04:20:05,400
So those are the goals that we saw in the general plan that relate directly to this.

2909
04:20:05,720 --> 04:20:14,760
Some thoughts that we want to bring forward and start the discussion with our update the general plan to expand areas in supportive development on the I-80 corridor.

2910
04:20:15,320 --> 04:20:19,400
And we currently have a study going on that, so that will come before you to give you an update on that.

2911
04:20:19,400 --> 04:20:25,640
But we have identified some areas that are currently within the general plan, and we'll have to slide on that later.

2912
04:20:26,000 --> 04:20:30,260
But there are opportunities, the question will be is that as you had pointed out on the last slide,

2913
04:20:30,600 --> 04:20:41,240
where do we expand those into the endocorporate, are there other areas of focus, are there other areas of interest that the board would have to look for economic development in other regions, and how do we make that happen in the general plan.

2914
04:20:42,120 --> 04:20:45,600
And then update the general plan to expand the northeast,

2915
04:20:45,600 --> 04:20:47,240
the ethics and agricultural service area.

2916
04:20:47,760 --> 04:20:51,300
So we have a very identified area that is off the highway.

2917
04:20:51,700 --> 04:20:56,780
It's on a critical infrastructure network, and it needs other infrastructure to make it happen.

2918
04:20:57,140 --> 04:21:01,580
But it's an opportunity area with its proximity to UC Davis and

2919
04:21:01,580 --> 04:21:07,780
the highways for further expansion that could benefit the county and in the unacorporated area.

2920
04:21:08,140 --> 04:21:12,140
And then obviously other board input to open it up for questions and comments.

2921
04:21:12,140 --> 04:21:17,300
It's just a couple of other quick things on that in terms of looking at the economic development section of the general plan.

2922
04:21:17,720 --> 04:21:23,540
The areas that we do mention in the plan right now are the interior valleys, which would include Susan Valley, Pleasant Valley.

2923
04:21:24,280 --> 04:21:26,900
Likun Valley was the other one that was mentioned in the general plan.

2924
04:21:27,640 --> 04:21:33,740
Collinsville is mentioned in the general plan, Old Town, Cordelia, North Vacaville, and

2925
04:21:33,740 --> 04:21:36,100
the Lamby Road industrial area.

2926
04:21:36,300 --> 04:21:39,040
So those are ones that we did highlight in the general plan.

2927
04:21:39,040 --> 04:21:43,380
There's like a paragraph on each of those in the plan, but once again, I think it's

2928
04:21:43,880 --> 04:21:48,840
building on some of that that we need to do in any update, as well as if we really

2929
04:21:48,840 --> 04:21:51,600
isn't a mention of the interchanges, and that's something that we're already starting on.

2930
04:21:51,740 --> 04:21:51,820
So.

2931
04:21:53,240 --> 04:21:53,960
All right.

2932
04:21:54,840 --> 04:22:00,260
Well, I think that when we talk about that, you know, we've already, when I say we, I mean,

2933
04:22:00,260 --> 04:22:01,280
the board I wasn't here.

2934
04:22:01,720 --> 04:22:02,460
Thank you, John.

2935
04:22:02,460 --> 04:22:32,440
I already worked on a Su-Soon specific plan, and so Su-Soon Valley has already went down that road, it's already been developed there, but to look in the future, those other areas and those other valleys as potentials for that type of economic development, just like Su-Soon, where we have the potential to collect some TOT and some other things, as long as we have that stakeholder buy-in, and we have the potential to collect some TOT and some other things, as long as we have that stakeholder buy-in, and we have

2936
04:22:32,440 --> 04:22:39,420
The residents who feel that that is the direction that they want to go in those areas, I think we should

2937
04:22:39,420 --> 04:22:43,720
absolutely still be looking at that. It wasn't a bad idea then. It's not a bad idea now.

2938
04:22:46,080 --> 04:22:53,880
I think that we absolutely still have to move forward with the areas in the I-80 corridor that we're looking at right now.

2939
04:22:53,880 --> 04:22:57,920
As you heard earlier, with the potential for a truck stop going in,

2940
04:22:58,460 --> 04:23:06,720
the fact that we have a county where all of these various transportation hubs come together.

2941
04:23:07,360 --> 04:23:13,280
All these arterials of transportation and goods come together in one spot.

2942
04:23:14,000 --> 04:23:21,260
We should be able to take advantage of that and we should be able to benefit from that as a county.

2943
04:23:21,260 --> 04:23:23,920
and our residents should be able to benefit from that.

2944
04:23:24,700 --> 04:23:31,580
When we talked earlier about the effects of legislation at the federal level and the impacts on the county,

2945
04:23:31,980 --> 04:23:35,380
all those impacts were incredibly large and financial.

2946
04:23:36,160 --> 04:23:47,540
And until the county has the ability to start offsetting that with some revenues from taxation and funds from development,

2947
04:23:48,240 --> 04:23:49,560
we're going to be in a hard way.

2948
04:23:49,560 --> 04:23:52,560
Okay, so that's absolutely something we need to continue looking at.

2949
04:23:55,940 --> 04:23:58,040
Anybody else on the board want to park in?

2950
04:23:59,360 --> 04:23:59,720
Thanks.

2951
04:24:00,460 --> 04:24:01,720
It's filled it up.

2952
04:24:01,940 --> 04:24:02,060
All right.

2953
04:24:02,980 --> 04:24:08,700
So the Board of Priority E3, which is initiated Utility Mass Ban, as I've asked, was mentioned.

2954
04:24:09,260 --> 04:24:14,820
So the nexus within the general plan is public facilities goal one.

2955
04:24:14,960 --> 04:24:20,660
It's provide adequate public services and facilities to accommodate the level of development planned by the county.

2956
04:24:20,660 --> 04:24:26,240
And then land use goal number three is to create sustainable communities within areas for employment,

2957
04:24:26,640 --> 04:24:31,740
shopping, housing, public facilities, and services, and recreation, and close proximity to each other.

2958
04:24:32,320 --> 04:24:37,360
This goal is very similar to the last one, there are similar goals that are the same goal that relates to the both topics.

2959
04:24:38,240 --> 04:24:43,320
So from staff standpoint, we've started, we want to build on the one-water framework and

2960
04:24:43,320 --> 04:24:47,940
the sole grant infrastructure effort and continue expand study of infrastructure needs county-wide.

2961
04:24:47,940 --> 04:24:52,680
And that points to the point that you made in the last slide is that, you know, we need to continue those efforts.

2962
04:24:53,320 --> 04:24:58,880
We want to support and explore requests from providers such as FSSD to study sewer in the Sun Valley.

2963
04:24:59,040 --> 04:25:03,940
It's a request that we have and want to understand how we can be responsive to that.

2964
04:25:04,240 --> 04:25:10,000
And then obviously other thoughts that you guys have related to utilities and a master plan for those.

2965
04:25:13,950 --> 04:25:16,750
I don't see any other questions, and I already said my piece on that one, James.

2966
04:25:16,750 --> 04:25:19,990
I mean, I just wanted to add, I mean, if you look at the current general plan,

2967
04:25:20,190 --> 04:25:23,490
there is a reference to infrastructure planning in the 2008 plan.

2968
04:25:23,930 --> 04:25:29,930
It mainly focuses on Lambie and Collinsville area, but not a, it's not totally

2969
04:25:29,930 --> 04:25:32,210
exclusive to those, but it's pretty much focused on those areas.

2970
04:25:32,230 --> 04:25:37,290
If you read the language in here, I think we could expand this section of the general

2971
04:25:37,290 --> 04:25:41,610
plan, not change, you know, throw it out, but basically span on it to kind of address

2972
04:25:41,610 --> 04:25:43,070
the issues that we're talking about today.

2973
04:25:43,070 --> 04:26:00,710
I think we do, and I think we need to, but I think the key stakeholder in that is going to be our utility providers because we have to have them at the table, they have to be willing to put in that infrastructure, or we can make all the plans in the world and they're all for not, so.

2974
04:26:00,710 --> 04:26:00,810
So,

2975
04:26:04,570 --> 04:26:07,810
Board Priority E4 support parks, recreation and cultural amenities.

2976
04:26:08,570 --> 04:26:11,510
Within the general plan, there's the park's objective number one.

2977
04:26:11,790 --> 04:26:17,990
It's to coordinate the planning and development of regional recreational facilities between federal, state, and local agencies within Salona County.

2978
04:26:18,550 --> 04:26:29,190
And then land use goal number four is to encourage land use development patterns and circulation and transportation systems that promote health and wellness and minimize adverse effects on agricultural and natural resources.

2979
04:26:29,190 --> 04:26:31,050
energy consumption and air quality.

2980
04:26:31,730 --> 04:26:34,990
So that's the foundation of how we, you know, look at how we support our parks.

2981
04:26:35,790 --> 04:26:39,710
Since the general plan, we've brought on new land, new day use areas.

2982
04:26:40,190 --> 04:26:43,330
We've expanded some of the park system and provided great amenities to the public.

2983
04:26:43,730 --> 04:26:44,570
It's been a great start.

2984
04:26:45,290 --> 04:26:47,850
Want to know how the board feels and what they want to do to expand that.

2985
04:26:48,270 --> 04:26:53,210
So the bullet we have is continue to work with entities such as the Solana Land Trust,

2986
04:26:53,430 --> 04:26:56,570
to acquire lands and expand programs for recreational opportunities.

2987
04:26:56,570 --> 04:26:58,950
And then, you know, other thoughts that you guys have?

2988
04:26:59,330 --> 04:27:02,210
My mind, I don't see any lights on the board yet.

2989
04:27:02,230 --> 04:27:04,030
I'm supposed to do, I wait, wait, okay, I'm coming.

2990
04:27:04,430 --> 04:27:05,790
I thought we were just going through it.

2991
04:27:06,110 --> 04:27:09,870
You want us to give you feedback each area.

2992
04:27:10,510 --> 04:27:12,090
That's why I haven't been doing anything.

2993
04:27:13,050 --> 04:27:14,490
So, I'm asking the chair.

2994
04:27:14,810 --> 04:27:15,270
Oh, yeah.

2995
04:27:16,550 --> 04:27:19,650
Well, what do we, I mean, yeah, they're just wanting,

2996
04:27:19,810 --> 04:27:22,250
they want us to put on each slide, so they want to.

2997
04:27:22,270 --> 04:27:24,670
But we can take full any other board input down at the bottom,

2998
04:27:24,670 --> 04:27:26,450
I'm wondering if they want anything.

2999
04:27:26,550 --> 04:27:29,390
I missed this last bullet point here.

3000
04:27:29,390 --> 04:27:29,890
Oh, OK.

3001
04:27:30,650 --> 04:27:31,230
I was like, what?

3002
04:27:31,650 --> 04:27:31,990
Do you want to go?

3003
04:27:32,050 --> 04:27:34,070
I'm just trying to run a show.

3004
04:27:34,370 --> 04:27:35,730
I'm just having a good old time over here.

3005
04:27:35,830 --> 04:27:37,690
No, I'm just doing as requested.

3006
04:27:37,870 --> 04:27:38,450
I don't realize that.

3007
04:27:38,590 --> 04:27:39,110
OK, thank you.

3008
04:27:39,110 --> 04:27:41,490
I think there's opportunities for real time as we're going

3009
04:27:41,490 --> 04:27:42,030
through the slides.

3010
04:27:42,210 --> 04:27:45,570
Or as I'm mowing over all the information we provide to you today

3011
04:27:45,570 --> 04:27:48,290
at the end, you could provide further comments for questions.

3012
04:27:48,470 --> 04:27:49,810
There are 38 slides.

3013
04:27:49,990 --> 04:27:53,370
So for me to hold it till the end would just be not good.

3014
04:27:53,770 --> 04:27:55,290
So I got to get it out now.

3015
04:27:58,130 --> 04:27:59,590
I'll be good, I'll make it short.

3016
04:27:59,850 --> 04:28:04,410
On this one here I just want to mention that I think the other part that we didn't put in a bullet here was

3017
04:28:04,850 --> 04:28:11,330
the amount of funds we've been able to use from the ARPA dollars to do some investments in our park infrastructure that we do have.

3018
04:28:11,590 --> 04:28:17,450
You know I'm talking Sandy Beach, Lake Salano, Lynch Canyon, we've been able to do some significant.

3019
04:28:17,590 --> 04:28:22,610
Some of it's not all that visible like it's the water systems of the wastewater, how we're handling wastewater.

3020
04:28:22,610 --> 04:28:27,090
Those have made significant improvements to our recreational facilities.

3021
04:28:27,550 --> 04:28:28,450
So we have made progress.

3022
04:28:28,970 --> 04:28:33,710
I think we have opportunities to further expand our system, because I think this county,

3023
04:28:33,970 --> 04:28:36,490
we've done a great job with open space, we need to take advantage of it.

3024
04:28:36,510 --> 04:28:39,330
It can be a major amenity, and it can be an economic development tool.

3025
04:28:39,910 --> 04:28:44,870
I think so, and to that end, what I was going to add is that I think one of the things we need to look at besides

3026
04:28:47,050 --> 04:28:51,050
working with entities like Salano Land Trust is to look at public private partnerships

3027
04:28:51,050 --> 04:28:55,050
for the purposes of parks and lands.

3028
04:28:55,790 --> 04:29:02,190
When I say that what I mean is there are private entities, public entities that are

3029
04:29:02,970 --> 04:29:06,950
agriculturally based, where they're maybe able to have public access.

3030
04:29:07,710 --> 04:29:14,330
And those types of things where we can help and we can be partners in that would be significant, would make a difference.

3031
04:29:14,770 --> 04:29:17,490
And then there's also privately held lands.

3032
04:29:17,490 --> 04:29:22,870
And I would use something like my old hunting club for an example, right?

3033
04:29:23,070 --> 04:29:26,230
You only use that during certain months of the year in certain seasons, but

3034
04:29:26,230 --> 04:29:28,770
there are a lot of times during the year when bird watchers and

3035
04:29:28,770 --> 04:29:32,390
people who want to go out and see nature would love to be able to get out and

3036
04:29:32,390 --> 04:29:33,330
access that property.

3037
04:29:33,450 --> 04:29:37,650
And so be able to have a public private partnership to have that public access on that.

3038
04:29:38,210 --> 04:29:43,390
Through a park system would be wonderful and to work something like that into our general plan would be great.

3039
04:29:44,010 --> 04:29:49,210
It's in language like that would be to encourage public-private partnerships that expand these types of things.

3040
04:29:50,150 --> 04:29:52,480
I'll have a comment.

3041
04:29:52,860 --> 04:29:53,360
Yes, ma'am.

3042
04:29:53,920 --> 04:29:54,340
Let her in.

3043
04:29:54,360 --> 04:29:55,180
I forgot to press the number.

3044
04:29:55,760 --> 04:29:56,500
Then a little light.

3045
04:29:57,880 --> 04:29:59,820
I know it is formal.

3046
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:07,580
We're going to go back to E3. And so where's the LUG-3 housing?

3047
04:30:11,460 --> 04:30:14,040
Where's the housing would be identified?

3048
04:30:15,120 --> 04:30:25,380
Okay, because it creates sustainable communities with areas for employment, shopping, housing, public facilities and services and recreation.

3049
04:30:25,380 --> 04:30:27,900
and close proximity to each other.

3050
04:30:28,160 --> 04:30:31,300
I don't remember in the priority,

3051
04:30:32,460 --> 04:30:36,460
is this for supported housing like for farm worker?

3052
04:30:37,220 --> 04:30:39,520
Housing, what kind of housing you're referencing?

3053
04:30:40,680 --> 04:30:45,160
So the, that LUG-3 is the actual language

3054
04:30:45,160 --> 04:30:47,160
from the general plan that discusses.

3055
04:30:47,460 --> 04:30:48,380
It's very broad.

3056
04:30:49,320 --> 04:30:50,360
It's very broad.

3057
04:30:50,520 --> 04:30:52,660
I mean, example of housing in the general plan

3058
04:30:52,660 --> 04:30:53,320
would be Wood Creek.

3059
04:30:53,540 --> 04:30:54,480
That area was identified

3060
04:30:54,480 --> 04:31:03,700
as a more dense utilization, it was identified in the general plan and it's a potential for housing close to the proximity of other resources and things like that.

3061
04:31:05,100 --> 04:31:07,040
But it requires infrastructure.

3062
04:31:07,500 --> 04:31:22,180
And so related to the goal of the priority of the board to initiate a utility master plan study, that's to look at areas that those types of development like hotels, large, large event centers, things like that,

3063
04:31:22,180 --> 04:31:26,700
that can't sort of self-sustained on the property that they currently have.

3064
04:31:26,700 --> 04:31:29,940
We're going to need other resources to solve whether it's package treatment plans

3065
04:31:29,940 --> 04:31:31,840
or it's some connection to a utility service.

3066
04:31:32,460 --> 04:31:36,580
So utilizing or continuing the utility master plan that's currently underway,

3067
04:31:36,640 --> 04:31:42,020
which is the board of priority, figured out ways in the general plan to strategize

3068
04:31:42,020 --> 04:31:46,500
on where those areas are that we want to look at and how we frame those studies

3069
04:31:46,500 --> 04:31:50,140
so that we can identify what the utility needs are that best serve those needs.

3070
04:31:50,140 --> 04:31:57,220
I'm going to just say that because just listening to what you just explained and solidifies for

3071
04:31:57,220 --> 04:32:04,800
me even more that a task force is truly going to be important because one of the things

3072
04:32:04,800 --> 04:32:14,640
that I don't want to see happening is that the fear into the unincorporated areas that

3073
04:32:14,640 --> 04:32:20,680
But we are bringing in tons of housing and, you know, it could be misconstrued.

3074
04:32:20,820 --> 04:32:27,320
So even though I understand it's broadly mentioned here, but these are just some of the things

3075
04:32:27,780 --> 04:32:33,060
all of us have to deal with when it comes to our public, right?

3076
04:32:33,860 --> 04:32:35,800
With the face of the county.

3077
04:32:36,540 --> 04:32:43,300
And so with that being said, I think it's in our best interest, again, to have a task force

3078
04:32:43,300 --> 04:32:50,840
where we're bringing the different stakeholders to the table when we're making these type of

3079
04:32:50,840 --> 04:32:51,420
decisions.

3080
04:32:51,740 --> 04:32:57,420
That way, the community cannot say that we didn't do everything in our power to make

3081
04:32:57,420 --> 04:32:59,460
sure that their voices were heard.

3082
04:33:00,320 --> 04:33:01,420
I would concur with that.

3083
04:33:01,520 --> 04:33:07,520
I would say that I think on that policy, it wasn't necessarily limited to the unincorporated

3084
04:33:07,520 --> 04:33:07,780
area.

3085
04:33:07,980 --> 04:33:12,560
In other words, I think it was a broader community vision statement policy that it would

3086
04:33:12,560 --> 04:33:17,300
applied to the county and the cities in terms of just the kind of community that we

3087
04:33:17,300 --> 04:33:18,900
want to create as a broader community.

3088
04:33:19,240 --> 04:33:22,700
So I think that when you read that language, it's not just unincorporated.

3089
04:33:23,480 --> 04:33:32,000
So I wasn't hearing in 2008, so I guess my question is, and maybe John you can answer, I don't

3090
04:33:32,000 --> 04:33:33,180
know who can answer this question.

3091
04:33:33,880 --> 04:33:40,700
So when you said in the beginning in 2008 was there a task force where you worked with

3092
04:33:40,700 --> 04:33:45,100
all the cities and is that how that worked when this happened?

3093
04:33:48,870 --> 04:33:54,270
There was a general plan committee of about 15 members and it was each board member got

3094
04:33:54,270 --> 04:33:59,550
to select three but it was a diverse group from all kinds of different sections.

3095
04:34:00,410 --> 04:34:03,490
So it was and there was a number of community meetings.

3096
04:34:03,730 --> 04:34:10,170
Remember the process took about two years for us to get through it and we had, you know,

3097
04:34:10,170 --> 04:34:19,670
They were led on their own, they discussed all the issues that came before that committee in regards to what should the general plan look like.

3098
04:34:20,670 --> 04:34:24,090
And the language is very broad in the general plan.

3099
04:34:24,750 --> 04:34:31,370
I think what we're looking for in this go around is a little more specific to identify areas where we can work together.

3100
04:34:31,890 --> 04:34:39,340
Whether it's on the edge of the city limits where some housing cities just don't want to do.

3101
04:34:39,900 --> 04:34:44,840
You know, and you've gotten into districts now, everybody wants affordable housing.

3102
04:34:44,980 --> 04:34:46,040
Nobody wants it next to them.

3103
04:34:48,350 --> 04:34:48,730
That's true.

3104
04:34:49,090 --> 04:34:49,910
We don't want those people.

3105
04:34:50,750 --> 04:34:51,690
Put it bluntly.

3106
04:34:53,230 --> 04:34:54,930
And everybody needs a place to start.

3107
04:34:56,370 --> 04:34:57,510
Bring it a valid point.

3108
04:34:59,170 --> 04:35:03,850
And from the discussion that we've had and the goals for this, and setting up the RFP for

3109
04:35:03,850 --> 04:35:09,610
the general plan, consultants modeled on that same process, the expectation of the task

3110
04:35:09,610 --> 04:35:19,390
fours, working groups, lots of interaction, and that's a framework that's identified that we would be looking at doing over the next three years to get to the point where we could bring something forward in 2028.

3111
04:35:25,920 --> 04:35:28,220
Does there any additions to four, E4?

3112
04:35:28,680 --> 04:35:29,500
I don't see any, no.

3113
04:35:32,680 --> 04:35:36,120
Okay, we'll jump to the housing priorities, the board priorities for housing.

3114
04:35:36,800 --> 04:35:41,700
So, the priority H1 is to partner with cities on regional, on a regional housing strategy.

3115
04:35:42,960 --> 04:35:53,360
So, the closest thing in the general plan is the housing objective, E, work and system of Salona County's local smart growth for the loss fee to direct most development to the cities.

3116
04:35:53,820 --> 04:35:59,760
Minimized constraints on the production of housing within the unincorporated areas of the county were limited residential development as appropriate.

3117
04:36:00,480 --> 04:36:06,800
And then land your school number one is preserved and protect the current development pattern of district of distinct and identify cities and communities.

3118
04:36:06,800 --> 04:36:17,520
So that is in the general plan of where housing was focused, and would be focused, except for the one-offs, like Wood Creek, things like that that happened in the unincorporated area.

3119
04:36:18,320 --> 04:36:27,520
So staff, the thoughts here are part of the summit, encourage cities to incorporate inclusionary housing ordinances as part of their housing programs.

3120
04:36:27,840 --> 04:36:31,680
I think only one city currently has an inclusionary housing program identified.

3121
04:36:32,300 --> 04:36:39,300
And so, you know, I think the dialogue should be to try to encourage that kind to the point where there's some housing that some areas don't want to do.

3122
04:36:39,720 --> 04:36:46,560
But if we understand it's a broader concern that that's what the focus needs to be, we can try to infect that through some language in the general plan.

3123
04:36:47,140 --> 04:36:50,800
And then explore opportunities in an incorporated area for workforce housing.

3124
04:36:51,340 --> 04:36:56,460
And so we don't go to much detail in the general plan from 2008.

3125
04:36:56,460 --> 04:36:59,640
It's a question for the board, is that that's something the board wants to explore.

3126
04:37:00,080 --> 04:37:04,160
How strategies for that, they'll be able to work with the consultant to incorporate into some form of language.

3127
04:37:04,820 --> 04:37:06,160
And then obviously whatever.

3128
04:37:07,200 --> 04:37:10,400
I don't see any lights on it, so I'm going to jump in real quick, if everybody

3129
04:37:10,400 --> 04:37:11,500
chance to ponder on that.

3130
04:37:14,180 --> 04:37:20,160
Supervisor Vesquiz already really spoke to that when he said, everybody wants to talk about affordable housing, but nobody wants it in their backyard.

3131
04:37:20,860 --> 04:37:26,200
And then you added to that, when you said, we only have one city, they've had 20 years to work on that.

3132
04:37:26,200 --> 04:37:29,940
And we've only had one city that has that inclusionary policy in there.

3133
04:37:31,140 --> 04:37:32,260
I'm checking with Walsh.

3134
04:37:32,720 --> 04:37:32,900
In there.

3135
04:37:32,960 --> 04:37:33,280
One, right?

3136
04:37:34,360 --> 04:37:35,040
Maybe two.

3137
04:37:35,260 --> 04:37:36,420
One, maybe two.

3138
04:37:36,860 --> 04:37:37,140
And a second working on it.

3139
04:37:37,300 --> 04:37:38,440
And a second working on it.

3140
04:37:38,840 --> 04:37:45,820
But until such a time as that comes to fruition with all of our counties, all over the city that we have seven of them, right?

3141
04:37:47,300 --> 04:37:51,100
There needs to be something done with immediacy, there's a problem in our state.

3142
04:37:51,100 --> 04:37:58,280
And I think we're hearing a willingness on the board to look at those opportunities.

3143
04:37:58,580 --> 04:38:01,800
And so we need somebody to be able to share with us how we navigate that.

3144
04:38:02,280 --> 04:38:08,520
Because with current regulation in Lathco and

3145
04:38:08,520 --> 04:38:11,700
Lathco law and current regulation at the state level,

3146
04:38:12,020 --> 04:38:15,400
our ability to partner with cities and other areas to

3147
04:38:15,400 --> 04:38:22,240
to develop and provide the infrastructure needs for that type of development in the county is really limited.

3148
04:38:23,260 --> 04:38:28,660
And so we need to help find, we need somebody to help us find ways to navigate that and help facilitate that.

3149
04:38:29,000 --> 04:38:31,800
Because if the cities don't want to do it and they would prefer the county do it,

3150
04:38:32,200 --> 04:38:37,920
then get out of the way and let us, or at least be a partner and help us, right?

3151
04:38:38,000 --> 04:38:41,340
And provide some utility for us, Supervisor.

3152
04:38:42,680 --> 04:39:11,320
Thank you, in regards to, I believe it is only two cities and we only have one city that's a pro housing city, but as a county overall how do we become a pro housing county because it increase our points in order to get more money coming from the state and also what language are we using to match the state language right now the state is using transit oriented housing is the same as sustainable communities, where we're building housing.

3153
04:39:11,340 --> 04:39:14,960
housing next to what Chair Mashman said, we are at Transportation Hub.

3154
04:39:15,380 --> 04:39:19,620
So how are we building out communities based on our Transportation Hub?

3155
04:39:19,780 --> 04:39:25,640
Again, it comes with dollars from the state as we're kind of marrying their language,

3156
04:39:25,780 --> 04:39:29,220
but also just to look internally at our own housing infrastructure.

3157
04:39:29,820 --> 04:39:32,700
Right now, we have housing dollars that are in different departments.

3158
04:39:33,100 --> 04:39:39,820
And it's so hard to coordinate sometimes with those departments to even have a streamlined housing ladder.

3159
04:39:39,820 --> 04:39:50,800
So, how are we internally looking at infrastructure as a part of our general plan to really ensure that we do look at housing with the full lens of

3160
04:39:51,620 --> 04:39:57,020
and I know people like to use the term affordable housing and I hate that term because it stigmatized.

3161
04:39:57,560 --> 04:40:07,140
Housing but more or less housing around our AMI and ensuring that we reach all income levels within the county.

3162
04:40:07,140 --> 04:40:23,860
So, right now, as it currently stands as a general plan, as we sort of state, it's really, we focus it on the cities, it's responsibility of the cities, growth patterns, accessibility infrastructure, the ability to subdivide and generate that type of housing in the unincorporated is kind of limited.

3163
04:40:24,340 --> 04:40:34,740
I think part of the discussion here is to understand what the board's goals are with attaining those realizations and how the board wants to see that brought in to the general plan going forward.

3164
04:40:36,500 --> 04:40:39,500
We've been waiting on the cities for 20 years, and we ain't there.

3165
04:40:40,280 --> 04:40:41,460
We don't have another 20.

3166
04:40:45,580 --> 04:40:54,220
I think you'll see in some subsequent slides that there's a lot of housing units being approved by the cities.

3167
04:40:54,840 --> 04:40:58,440
But very few of them fall within what we're talking about here.

3168
04:40:58,660 --> 04:41:06,580
In other words, if you go up and down our corridor and look what new homes are selling for right now, they're being produced, they're not affordable.

3169
04:41:06,580 --> 04:41:07,440
All right.

3170
04:41:16,180 --> 04:41:26,290
Supervisor Williams has a question to thank supervisor James for just

3171
04:41:26,290 --> 04:41:31,270
say the terminology housing around AMI. I really like that so I just wanted to share

3172
04:41:31,270 --> 04:41:41,100
that with you. I just wanted to ask in reference oh I lost my question go ahead.

3173
04:41:47,260 --> 04:42:08,580
And just to go back, again, because I'm a hone in on the internal infrastructure and I don't know if this can be a part of the general plan conversation, but again, it's really honing in on where the housing dollars live at within the county, and I know that we have the capsule on JPA and housing and homelessness are two different topics.

3174
04:42:09,380 --> 04:42:35,840
However, again, when we're talking about somebody coordinating with our county overall, there is a disconnect between the city and the county when we're trying to get somebody housed into, again, mixed use or housing based off of the area medium income, whether it's 50% or below.

3175
04:42:35,840 --> 04:42:45,220
So, but if we can just hone in on that fact, of like the internal infrastructure on how we are producing housing.

3176
04:42:49,400 --> 04:42:51,500
All right, let her in.

3177
04:42:52,040 --> 04:42:53,280
I really forgot.

3178
04:42:54,560 --> 04:43:07,580
So the question is since we were talking about working with our cities, do we have a date certain for when we're going to have our convening with them because we try to do it this month,

3179
04:43:07,580 --> 04:43:09,260
but I know they ask for an extension.

3180
04:43:09,940 --> 04:43:11,140
Yeah, no, we do not have a date yet.

3181
04:43:11,500 --> 04:43:13,160
Well, we're going to be talking with them tomorrow.

3182
04:43:13,160 --> 04:43:14,580
I think we'll get a better sense of it.

3183
04:43:15,160 --> 04:43:17,220
OK, so you'll bring something back to us,

3184
04:43:17,300 --> 04:43:17,520
I think.

3185
04:43:18,440 --> 04:43:20,120
All right, that's what I wanted to know.

3186
04:43:20,500 --> 04:43:27,260
And as we look at this prime act will be excluded

3187
04:43:27,260 --> 04:43:34,840
right from these discussions around the possibility

3188
04:43:34,840 --> 04:43:38,000
and what housing could or may look like.

3189
04:43:39,060 --> 04:43:42,660
I mean, as it stands now, the general plan is very limited areas where we've shown,

3190
04:43:43,060 --> 04:43:48,520
I keep falling back to Wood Creek because that's really the only one that really shows an area that was anticipated for

3191
04:43:48,520 --> 04:43:55,440
a conversion of any large land into segmented areas for like a subdivision.

3192
04:43:55,900 --> 04:44:02,280
So as it stands now, we don't currently have methodologies to bring subdivisions of any scale in the

3193
04:44:02,280 --> 04:44:05,440
incorporated based upon our current zoning and the general planning requirements.

3194
04:44:05,860 --> 04:44:13,340
Well, I was just concerned about that because I mean the lagoon valley, it was this open space

3195
04:44:13,340 --> 04:44:17,120
and it's a whole lot of homes and there and now.

3196
04:44:17,440 --> 04:44:23,880
As we'll show in some of the later slides, we do identify that the, I would say for the past 60 years,

3197
04:44:24,040 --> 04:44:29,800
the methodology for the county and the city is housing growth has been through annexations

3198
04:44:30,380 --> 04:44:36,600
by the cities. So in an off way, it's, it is a conversion of ag land to housing,

3199
04:44:36,740 --> 04:44:40,380
but it doesn't happen in an incorporated area. Those areas get annexed into a city.

3200
04:44:40,480 --> 04:44:44,680
The city utilizes them to develop the housing that sort of serves the entire region.

3201
04:44:45,180 --> 04:44:47,800
And so that's the methodology that has been up to this date.

3202
04:44:48,000 --> 04:44:50,600
We'll have some slides we can talk further about that and provide more information.

3203
04:44:51,160 --> 04:44:51,520
Thank you.

3204
04:44:52,380 --> 04:44:56,500
That's what I wanted to get down to. James, you took my thunder, but I wanted to say,

3205
04:44:56,500 --> 04:44:59,880
That's all right man, you said it much more eloquently than I was gonna

3206
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:29,980
Let's say, but for the last decade or two, we have been soaking up our prime ag land around the cities as they annex that land, and then they convert it into homes. The county, through city-centered growth, doesn't really have much say in that. When the city wants to do an annexation, they go through a process. There's a whole process to it. They annex the land. And then that prime ag land is then incorporated into

3207
04:45:29,980 --> 04:45:33,020
And it's not city land and it's not county land.

3208
04:45:33,380 --> 04:45:39,600
So our general plan has no, just don't say over what happens to that prime ag land at that point.

3209
04:45:40,160 --> 04:45:46,980
Yes ma'am, that's why we wanted to have the cities at the table because we want to know what their plans are into the future.

3210
04:45:47,520 --> 04:45:54,100
And do their plans include the annexation of a lot of our prime ag land for

3211
04:45:54,100 --> 04:45:57,540
the purposes of that type of development because we need to know that.

3212
04:45:57,540 --> 04:46:00,640
But the public needs to know that, everybody needs to know that.

3213
04:46:01,140 --> 04:46:05,340
And then we need to plan accordingly for those other lands that are further out.

3214
04:46:05,560 --> 04:46:17,280
The problem that we have is that our lot of our prime ag land sits directly around a city where they have utility, where they have the ability to provide water and power and all those things.

3215
04:46:17,760 --> 04:46:26,380
And those lands that are less than a prime in our county sit so far out that there's not an ability to provide utility for those.

3216
04:46:26,380 --> 04:46:28,660
So, how do you develop housing on those land?

3217
04:46:29,160 --> 04:46:41,480
And the discussion, you know, that we're trying to be forward here and for the board to discuss as we go forward, is that, as it's going now as the current definition in the general plan, the board sees the different methodology or a different way that they want to do that.

3218
04:46:41,740 --> 04:46:52,120
Then that's where the discussion begins. We go through the public process of discussing and trying to come to some form of consensus, so we can relate into the any updates to the general plan.

3219
04:46:52,120 --> 04:47:00,780
So if the board doesn't necessarily like when we are right now, then it's your opportunity to make those changes or at least discuss those changes and find a path forward.

3220
04:47:04,460 --> 04:47:20,560
Oh, yeah, John, I'm sorry, you may be starting, you want to maybe start thinking about when we're talking about housing as far as the cities, I mean, it's development's all incurred in the cities.

3221
04:47:20,560 --> 04:47:26,160
So every piece of unincorporated is one annexation away from becoming something else and a

3222
04:47:26,160 --> 04:47:30,600
piece of prime aglan is one annexation away from being something else.

3223
04:47:31,700 --> 04:47:36,900
I was hoping that through the process we started to find some areas that are just off limits

3224
04:47:36,900 --> 04:47:37,460
completely.

3225
04:47:38,720 --> 04:47:44,140
I mean, you take up and around the Dixon Ridge area, less than 10% of the ground in California

3226
04:47:44,140 --> 04:47:45,000
is as good as that.

3227
04:47:45,660 --> 04:47:50,300
Is that something where we should focus in and say, the priority is this is going to stay

3228
04:47:50,300 --> 04:47:53,180
the act forever, or as long as forever is forever.

3229
04:47:55,080 --> 04:47:56,700
Because forever doesn't really mean forever.

3230
04:47:58,940 --> 04:47:59,680
Forever word.

3231
04:48:00,060 --> 04:48:00,620
Yeah, forever.

3232
04:48:01,740 --> 04:48:02,120
Oh, it is.

3233
04:48:02,440 --> 04:48:03,140
Mm-hmm.

3234
04:48:05,840 --> 04:48:06,100
Yeah.

3235
04:48:06,320 --> 04:48:06,980
Ha-ha-ha.

3236
04:48:07,760 --> 04:48:08,680
It's all right.

3237
04:48:08,960 --> 04:48:09,040
It's so good.

3238
04:48:09,040 --> 04:48:09,060
It's all right.

3239
04:48:09,060 --> 04:48:09,400
It's so good.

3240
04:48:09,600 --> 04:48:10,920
I was thinking you need to.

3241
04:48:11,080 --> 04:48:12,900
Are you guys cheating ahead on our slides?

3242
04:48:13,140 --> 04:48:13,680
Because I'm getting a game.

3243
04:48:13,700 --> 04:48:17,320
Well, you know, the thought came to me because of the housing

3244
04:48:17,320 --> 04:48:17,700
thing.

3245
04:48:18,560 --> 04:48:34,640
If we don't put some pressure back on the communities to create a little more density, I'm sure everybody wants a quarter acre land and a house 3,000 square foot and a white picket fence, but that's not true.

3246
04:48:37,500 --> 04:48:47,940
We need the density, we need the cities to participate in that density and maybe that's how we get to the housing that housing for the people that we serve.

3247
04:48:47,940 --> 04:48:55,510
Yeah, one-third of the population and we serve and they're all in need or else we wouldn't be serving them.

3248
04:48:56,870 --> 04:48:57,310
Anyway.

3249
04:48:58,270 --> 04:48:59,310
Didn't mean to get ahead.

3250
04:48:59,730 --> 04:48:59,990
Go ahead.

3251
04:49:00,610 --> 04:49:03,970
Didn't mean to get ahead, but it just was the thought came in my head at that point.

3252
04:49:04,370 --> 04:49:07,730
I think we have a policy coming up where it talks about in the current general plan,

3253
04:49:07,730 --> 04:49:14,910
even that in terms of city growth, focusing on more density as well as infill,

3254
04:49:14,910 --> 04:49:23,230
Well, before they continue to eat up more of the prime aglan, so I think we touched on that a little bit further so.

3255
04:49:23,430 --> 04:49:25,710
We do. All right, so H2,

3256
04:49:28,330 --> 04:49:29,170
okay, H2.

3257
04:49:29,830 --> 04:49:33,690
So the poor priority H2 is to improve housing resource efficiency.

3258
04:49:34,690 --> 04:49:44,890
Within the general plan, we have a housing objective E work consistent with Solano County's local smart growth philosophy to direct most development of the city's minimize constraints to the production of housing.

3259
04:49:44,890 --> 04:49:50,310
within the incorporated area of the county where limited residential development is important, appropriate.

3260
04:49:50,950 --> 04:49:59,250
And then land use goal three is create sustainable communities with areas for employment, shopping, housing, public facilities and services and recreation and close proximity to the other.

3261
04:49:59,570 --> 04:50:05,570
So these are very consistent general concepts of how to achieve these goals or these priorities.

3262
04:50:05,570 --> 04:50:18,190
You know, one of our takeaways were to identify ways to encourage more workforce housing in the unincorporate areas to support agriculture and then continue to find ways to support development of accessory dwelling units, 80 use in other housing options.

3263
04:50:18,650 --> 04:50:23,710
We have some sort of restrictions, current restrictions that don't necessarily meet the current goals of the state's goals of ADA's.

3264
04:50:24,310 --> 04:50:30,090
And those are the limitations that could be resolved through some updates to the general plan.

3265
04:50:30,490 --> 04:50:32,090
And then obviously we're looking for some more input.

3266
04:50:32,090 --> 04:50:35,350
So we're all going to update the measure T.

3267
04:50:40,730 --> 04:50:42,230
I'm like, I'm in school.

3268
04:50:42,750 --> 04:50:43,150
Way the main.

3269
04:50:43,650 --> 04:50:43,770
Sure.

3270
04:50:44,680 --> 04:50:45,150
Go ahead.

3271
04:50:45,270 --> 04:50:48,350
Just I wanted to circle back to what.

3272
04:50:49,530 --> 04:50:53,110
Mr. Emblem said about measure T.

3273
04:50:53,210 --> 04:50:55,090
So does.

3274
04:50:56,680 --> 04:50:59,330
Do we are we going to be working with?

3275
04:50:59,930 --> 04:51:00,730
Or do we grow?

3276
04:51:01,270 --> 04:51:03,490
We're going to build some type of.

3277
04:51:05,050 --> 04:51:10,270
and meeting with them to, because at the end of the day,

3278
04:51:10,610 --> 04:51:17,930
we don't simply grow like the third of watch dogs or, you know,

3279
04:51:18,050 --> 04:51:20,430
make sure that we stay compliant.

3280
04:51:21,450 --> 04:51:25,550
So we're making recommendations or the goal is to have like a workshop

3281
04:51:25,550 --> 04:51:29,950
with them to work through these processes.

3282
04:51:29,950 --> 04:51:36,110
Yeah, I'm absolutely we will have discussions with them, and I think it's going to be embedded because the reality is that

3283
04:51:36,110 --> 04:51:39,670
Our general plan is in intricately tied with

3284
04:51:39,670 --> 04:51:45,450
Measure T in many ways and in you know our general plan says it's the 20 30 general plan

3285
04:51:45,450 --> 04:51:51,770
But in reality measure T ends in 2028 and so much of the key provisions of the general plan are kind of tied to it

3286
04:51:51,770 --> 04:51:57,050
So we're going to as part of the stakeholder process and everything else absolutely would be talking order

3287
04:51:57,050 --> 04:51:58,690
We often talk in other groups as well.

3288
04:51:59,890 --> 04:52:02,810
We understand, and when I mentioned like Measure T,

3289
04:52:03,050 --> 04:52:06,530
there's like provisions for only a certain number of dwellings

3290
04:52:06,530 --> 04:52:09,030
on an agricultural property as an example of something

3291
04:52:09,030 --> 04:52:12,050
we may want to look at again in terms of,

3292
04:52:12,750 --> 04:52:14,790
because we have families sometimes who come to us

3293
04:52:14,790 --> 04:52:17,450
and say we'd like to have more homes on the land.

3294
04:52:18,210 --> 04:52:20,290
And there probably could be some minor

3295
04:52:20,290 --> 04:52:22,330
and I'm talking minor adjustments in that context

3296
04:52:22,950 --> 04:52:24,250
to address that issue.

3297
04:52:24,710 --> 04:52:26,450
But there's other things that we need to look at as well

3298
04:52:26,450 --> 04:52:33,870
in terms of land use map, to try to figure out ways to meet all the different priorities that we have.

3299
04:52:34,030 --> 04:52:36,650
I think it, you know, times change, we have to make those adjustments.

3300
04:52:36,930 --> 04:52:40,890
So, but yes, absolutely, order growth, order growth, we want the groups that we're working with.

3301
04:52:41,110 --> 04:52:47,350
I think what Bill brought up with regards to the ADUs is that currently with Measure T,

3302
04:52:47,650 --> 04:52:49,690
we can only have one primary and one secondary.

3303
04:52:50,450 --> 04:52:52,730
That's all that's allowed through the provisions of Measure T.

3304
04:52:52,730 --> 04:53:01,870
The state, obviously, through a lot of the goals that they have, and it's more urban in some instances, but they're pushing for multiple ADUs.

3305
04:53:02,290 --> 04:53:12,730
Some other counties in the unincorporated areas, if you're allowing an ADU that's up to, say, 2,000 square feet, they allow if you can do two of them 1,000 square feet,

3306
04:53:12,730 --> 04:53:17,690
you stay under the 2000, then you can have two ADUs, and that provides additional housing within the

3307
04:53:17,690 --> 04:53:20,790
unacorporated area. Currently, provisions of that measure, you don't allow for that.

3308
04:53:20,930 --> 04:53:25,690
And so it's a limitation that if the interest is in expanding housing in the way that we

3309
04:53:25,690 --> 04:53:29,870
solve for our wiener in the unacorporated area, it is through the ADUs.

3310
04:53:30,070 --> 04:53:33,550
We have a limitation built in as a result of that. So dialogue with measure T,

3311
04:53:33,970 --> 04:53:39,510
an orderly growth to figure out ways to be responsible and responsive to the needs that the state has identified,

3312
04:53:39,510 --> 04:53:45,050
the public is identified, but still keep the character and consistent use of the unincorporated

3313
04:53:45,050 --> 04:53:49,950
area for agriculture, but still provides some additional housing to meet those needs

3314
04:53:49,950 --> 04:53:50,890
is critical.

3315
04:53:53,930 --> 04:54:00,490
Well, to that end, I want to kick in a little bit and say that I just don't think that

3316
04:54:03,850 --> 04:54:06,130
ADUs are going to get us there.

3317
04:54:06,130 --> 04:54:34,410
So, we have to add an element or two to this that is going to be able to look at things like what supervisor James brought up, which is a denser development around some of our transportation and our transportation hubs and the ability to institute some of those things and we need to look at ways to incorporate maybe some other types of housing in areas where it's appropriate, you know, be that a

3318
04:54:34,410 --> 04:54:45,650
a trailer park, for example, or some of the smaller denser home communities where they have the homes that are under a thousand square feet, right?

3319
04:54:45,790 --> 04:55:01,910
And they can be sustained on their own utility on the development properties, those types of things in order to get enough of the housing in place because as we've heard so many times just today,

3320
04:55:02,350 --> 04:55:04,750
the state's more than willing to cramp something down our throat.

3321
04:55:05,610 --> 04:55:13,610
And if we don't take some action to try and develop these types of housing in our general plan and in our community,

3322
04:55:14,250 --> 04:55:17,730
the state's going to take that local land use authority away from us and they're going to do it.

3323
04:55:18,190 --> 04:55:19,510
And then what will we end up with?

3324
04:55:20,490 --> 04:55:27,170
So I think it's going to take, as we go through this process, it's going to take a deep dive into our land use map.

3325
04:55:27,170 --> 04:55:33,230
And look for opportunities for sites that can address things like housing or

3326
04:55:33,230 --> 04:55:37,110
economic development without, and I think there's plenty of opportunity out there without

3327
04:55:37,730 --> 04:55:43,730
detracting from the overarching goals of what measure T today and the order of the growth.

3328
04:55:44,330 --> 04:55:49,090
Historically, we think we can do both and maintain the character of the county.

3329
04:55:50,110 --> 04:55:53,850
So I want to do, I don't want to give the state the opportunity to take that character away.

3330
04:55:54,770 --> 04:56:11,150
But I also think we need to look at the thousand square feet because I run into a lot of seniors who the rents keep going up, but once you retire, your retirement does not, and we talk about we're going to have a lot of folks that are going to be homeless, it's going to be a lot of seniors.

3331
04:56:11,150 --> 04:56:24,890
You need to build what people, 11,000, let me sorry, 1200 square feet, two bedroom, one bath, whatever it might be, so that you have your feet in the community.

3332
04:56:26,030 --> 04:56:36,390
Because many of us live on courts that every month there seems to be somebody new coming into rent because maybe they didn't make the payment whatever it is.

3333
04:56:36,390 --> 04:56:44,650
But however we do the general plan, we need to look at that housing is available for all incomes.

3334
04:56:44,850 --> 04:56:49,530
I know you guys are saying the different language alphabet soup, but I think we need to have

3335
04:56:49,530 --> 04:56:54,990
a strategy where that we want to be a county where that not only is it affordable, that you

3336
04:56:54,990 --> 04:56:57,970
can buy and be part of the community.

3337
04:56:58,830 --> 04:57:01,390
Because everybody in here eventually is going to retire.

3338
04:57:02,030 --> 04:57:04,690
And not everybody is going to have a retirement system.

3339
04:57:04,690 --> 04:57:07,930
and that's a big worry I have down the road, so.

3340
04:57:08,330 --> 04:57:09,590
Great, so we're ready to wait.

3341
04:57:11,150 --> 04:57:16,640
And I agree with my colleagues

3342
04:57:16,640 --> 04:57:19,740
that we definitely look at tiny homes.

3343
04:57:20,500 --> 04:57:24,780
But there is actually some tiny home communities

3344
04:57:24,780 --> 04:57:31,400
developed that actually have community centers in the middle.

3345
04:57:31,880 --> 04:57:35,240
But their homes are like 300, 400 square feet

3346
04:57:35,240 --> 04:57:41,300
and it's just the way their bill gives them the appearance of more space but it

3347
04:57:41,300 --> 04:57:47,660
allows for more inexpensive way of home ownership and then they have larger

3348
04:57:47,660 --> 04:57:52,420
ones that are like 630 throughout Atlanta, Georgia and then they'll have an

3349
04:57:52,420 --> 04:57:59,500
outside space that may be 800 square feet so it's more of an indoor outdoor type of

3350
04:57:59,500 --> 04:58:06,380
living experience, and so those are some ways we can look at density.

3351
04:58:07,140 --> 04:58:12,040
Yeah, those are great examples of getting those types of units in.

3352
04:58:12,520 --> 04:58:20,660
The issue for us, obviously, is that when you're only allowed to units on a property, you can't do a tiny house village or a tiny house group of structures.

3353
04:58:20,900 --> 04:58:28,220
So it's finding that balance between what we want to do with regards to densifications and doing it smartly through the general plan process.

3354
04:58:31,080 --> 04:58:33,860
Certainly something that wasn't thought about in 2008, really.

3355
04:58:33,980 --> 04:58:35,640
I mean, that's how quickly the things have changed, right?

3356
04:58:35,760 --> 04:58:37,840
That's something and we need to look at that opportunity.

3357
04:58:39,520 --> 04:58:39,880
Okay,

3358
04:58:42,580 --> 04:58:46,220
we're going to transition to agriculture as one of the, you know,

3359
04:58:46,360 --> 04:58:49,860
primary, one of the board priorities that has an access to the general plan.

3360
04:58:51,000 --> 04:58:54,360
You know, first and foremost is A1 and we have the ad commissioner in the audience.

3361
04:58:54,580 --> 04:58:59,900
I will try, if we need him, I won't phone a friend unless I need to.

3362
04:58:59,900 --> 04:59:01,720
So I'll try and take this through.

3363
04:59:02,340 --> 04:59:06,320
So A1 is, the board priority was to strengthen the right to farm.

3364
04:59:06,760 --> 04:59:10,520
We're very strong, we're accounting it's very strong in the provision of the right to farm.

3365
04:59:11,180 --> 04:59:16,200
Our general plan, the agricultural goal number one is to recognize, value, and

3366
04:59:16,200 --> 04:59:20,560
support the critical roles of all agricultural lands in the stability and

3367
04:59:20,560 --> 04:59:22,160
economic well-being of the county.

3368
04:59:22,620 --> 04:59:26,100
And then land use goal number one is to preserve and protect the current development

3369
04:59:26,100 --> 04:59:29,440
the pattern of distinct and identifiable cities and communities.

3370
04:59:30,060 --> 04:59:33,420
And so that's how we sort of respond to the importance of right to farm,

3371
04:59:33,660 --> 04:59:34,600
the importance of ag.

3372
04:59:35,080 --> 04:59:40,720
It's sort of in the basis of measure T and it sort of breeze through our entire general plan.

3373
04:59:41,240 --> 04:59:44,960
So one of the thoughts we had is to expand on the right to farm ordinance policy language

3374
04:59:44,960 --> 04:59:48,040
to ensure that agricultural and urban interfaces are compatible.

3375
04:59:48,480 --> 04:59:53,940
And so that's to supervisor Vazquez's point that the cities begin to expand more.

3376
04:59:53,940 --> 04:59:58,480
we have to define specific areas where they can't go, or strategically think of areas

3377
04:59:58,480 --> 04:59:59,740
is a ways to compute.

3378
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:29,100
We define that area so that we can maintain what is important for the agricultural community, but still provide the opportunity for the county to grow. And to that end, I think, I'm just going to jump in. To that, to that end, I think that that's one of the, another one of the reasons we want to have the cities at the table. Because it doesn't do, it doesn't serve all of us well if it's just us adding something to our policy that encourages this type of interface, right?

3379
05:00:29,100 --> 05:00:58,260
We need the cities as they develop their general plans to incorporate that into their general plans as well because they have to have the understanding that they do a but agriculture, they do a but the country and they need to assure that the developments that go forward under their general plan align with that instead of us just requiring it on our side, it needs to be integrated and it needs to be both.

3380
05:00:58,260 --> 05:01:04,860
So we need to have them at the table to be able to make sure that it is a well-rounded policy that takes all of that into consideration.

3381
05:01:05,340 --> 05:01:15,080
Yeah, I mean, this is quite a dialogue that, you know, for Bill and for the team to take to the city managers when we meet because we didn't have the summit.

3382
05:01:15,180 --> 05:01:25,240
This is a great opportunity to further expand upon what the board's expectations are and to show that it is intended to be cooperative and really fact seeking.

3383
05:01:25,780 --> 05:01:29,020
And so it's a good opportunity for us to take that to the, to the city's end of the

3384
05:01:29,020 --> 05:01:31,220
discussion to say, hey, this is really what the board is talking about here.

3385
05:01:31,480 --> 05:01:32,660
How do we get on the same page?

3386
05:01:32,880 --> 05:01:34,080
And then here's the other one.

3387
05:01:34,260 --> 05:01:34,940
I'm sorry, go ahead.

3388
05:01:34,940 --> 05:01:35,280
Oh, that's okay.

3389
05:01:35,360 --> 05:01:36,780
I'm just going to say they've done, heard me say it now.

3390
05:01:36,960 --> 05:01:37,900
I've put it on record.

3391
05:01:38,220 --> 05:01:41,440
I was just going to add on that the other piece of that is the right to farm.

3392
05:01:41,480 --> 05:01:45,240
And then there's ag mitigation ordinance because remember, we adopted a pretty strong

3393
05:01:45,240 --> 05:01:48,880
one, but if they aren't adopted by the cities, when they annex, and now granted

3394
05:01:48,880 --> 05:01:50,900
Lafgo can put something on them as well.

3395
05:01:50,900 --> 05:01:56,520
Well, but our ordinance is really applies only on incorporated and an annexation that doesn't apply.

3396
05:01:57,480 --> 05:02:01,900
We want to make sure that I think it would be best if every jurisdiction had a similar provision.

3397
05:02:02,100 --> 05:02:03,660
That would help protect the higher go channel.

3398
05:02:06,440 --> 05:02:06,900
Go ahead one.

3399
05:02:07,260 --> 05:02:12,020
Okay, and that just made me think about why it is so important that we do meet with them.

3400
05:02:12,340 --> 05:02:18,740
Because if they don't understand that by building those homes or

3401
05:02:18,740 --> 05:02:22,140
or putting businesses on top of prime ag land,

3402
05:02:22,220 --> 05:02:23,320
we can't get that back.

3403
05:02:23,800 --> 05:02:25,020
It's just gone.

3404
05:02:25,820 --> 05:02:30,480
And that really needs to be driven home with them.

3405
05:02:30,680 --> 05:02:33,080
So that's why it's important, we have to meet with them.

3406
05:02:33,400 --> 05:02:34,460
So they can get it.

3407
05:02:34,540 --> 05:02:38,140
And hopefully we can get them to incorporate some of this

3408
05:02:38,140 --> 05:02:41,500
into their own ordinances and plans.

3409
05:02:42,280 --> 05:02:45,520
Because this is just my thoughts.

3410
05:02:45,520 --> 05:02:52,640
it feels like the county is just the bank of land and you just come get

3411
05:02:52,640 --> 05:02:57,640
whatever you want and we don't know what you want to do or are the needs of

3412
05:02:57,640 --> 05:03:03,180
the county that have to be fulfilled is just you're the land bank and we're just

3413
05:03:03,180 --> 05:03:07,980
come to get a land okay I think that was just my dog thought no that was good

3414
05:03:09,600 --> 05:03:10,560
okay all

3415
05:03:16,190 --> 05:03:20,030
right you're good there no more lights all right eight two so

3416
05:03:20,030 --> 05:03:27,270
So, Board Priority A2 is to support Ag Workforce Housing, and in the Housing Objective D it's provide,

3417
05:03:27,530 --> 05:03:31,710
I'll just put my page, a provide housing to meet the special needs of the elderly disabled,

3418
05:03:31,970 --> 05:03:39,770
including the event developmentally disabled, large family, single female headed homeless military and farm workers.

3419
05:03:40,410 --> 05:03:47,110
So that was from the General Plan 2008, and then the agricultural goal number four is enable the development of housing opportunities for

3420
05:03:47,110 --> 05:03:52,390
the farm families and farm workers to ensure the continued competitiveness of Solano County agriculture.

3421
05:03:52,810 --> 05:03:55,670
So it's basis which is in the general plan.

3422
05:03:56,950 --> 05:04:02,010
And then some of the points we wanted to bring forward and start the discussion to support projects like the Dixon Pilot,

3423
05:04:02,190 --> 05:04:05,550
ARPA Project to support the construction of agricultural worker housing.

3424
05:04:06,210 --> 05:04:11,350
Support programs and zoning that provide for the construction of units such as ADU using the unincorporated area of the county.

3425
05:04:11,490 --> 05:04:16,650
Sort of harkens back to the previous slide, but it's more dialogue on the ways that we can start to structure policy within

3426
05:04:16,650 --> 05:04:18,710
then the general plan to bring these forward.

3427
05:04:19,110 --> 05:04:20,930
And then I'm opening it up to the board.

3428
05:04:21,450 --> 05:04:22,890
Supervisor Brown has a question.

3429
05:04:23,290 --> 05:04:24,870
Oh, it's not a question, it's a comment.

3430
05:04:25,470 --> 05:04:27,610
First paragraph, second line.

3431
05:04:28,230 --> 05:04:30,070
Single female headed.

3432
05:04:30,310 --> 05:04:32,110
Now we need to change that because there are men

3433
05:04:32,110 --> 05:04:34,010
who also have custody of their children.

3434
05:04:34,550 --> 05:04:39,190
So however you, or just large family, or yeah,

3435
05:04:39,410 --> 05:04:41,010
so that needs to be fixed.

3436
05:04:41,330 --> 05:04:44,510
I'm giving you guys credit because a lot of you guys

3437
05:04:44,510 --> 05:04:49,010
It's like taking care of your children, so that needs to change.

3438
05:04:50,290 --> 05:04:52,150
It's changed since 2008.

3439
05:04:52,670 --> 05:05:00,130
I think to that end, you could almost incorporate all of those into Supervisor James's suggestion of a certain level of AMI.

3440
05:05:02,950 --> 05:05:04,410
We're going with that term.

3441
05:05:05,950 --> 05:05:07,130
All right,

3442
05:05:10,880 --> 05:05:18,020
we have one more Ag, priority A3, and it's to create an ag economic development program.

3443
05:05:18,020 --> 05:05:28,160
In the general plan, agricultural goal number one was to recognize value and support the critical roles of all agricultural lands in the stability and economic well-being of the county.

3444
05:05:28,880 --> 05:05:39,180
And then the economic development goal number six is to preserve and expand the county's agricultural base by allowing for a wide range of economic activities that support local agriculture.

3445
05:05:39,180 --> 05:05:45,720
That's where we start from, you know, the planning process is underway under the salt grant effort and may require

3446
05:05:45,720 --> 05:05:48,160
revisions to zoning for more allowable uses by right.

3447
05:05:48,640 --> 05:05:50,640
So the salt is ongoing right now.

3448
05:05:50,720 --> 05:05:53,480
Can you be used to inform the dialogue that we have on the general plan?

3449
05:05:54,080 --> 05:05:56,620
We have a slide on the salt as well so we can talk about that.

3450
05:05:56,740 --> 05:06:03,200
But that's just one thing to think about, obviously, when you want to hear what you think or want to add.

3451
05:06:04,020 --> 05:06:08,900
I don't see any light, so again, I'm going to jump right in and I think that the salt program is a great starting point for that.

3452
05:06:12,040 --> 05:06:19,760
That program, thank you, Ed, is truly a combined effort of all the stakeholders.

3453
05:06:20,280 --> 05:06:24,720
Literally, I'll come in together at the table to give us some of that information.

3454
05:06:25,300 --> 05:06:28,720
And then to refine that, then having professionals refine that information so

3455
05:06:28,720 --> 05:06:32,360
that it's usable data for us in the development of this general plan.

3456
05:06:32,800 --> 05:06:34,500
So that is a great thing.

3457
05:06:34,500 --> 05:06:41,160
I'm very glad that our ag commissioner brought that grant forward and then we're moving forward that way, but once that's done

3458
05:06:42,060 --> 05:06:44,900
Then we need to have an element in here that

3459
05:06:44,900 --> 05:06:52,640
That utilizes it and it speaks to the utilization of the salt grant data for the development of

3460
05:06:53,600 --> 05:06:55,520
Ag priorities around

3461
05:06:56,840 --> 05:07:02,900
Economic well-being of the county and of agriculture as an industry in our county

3462
05:07:02,900 --> 05:07:03,480
I'm

3463
05:07:06,300 --> 05:07:06,500
interested.

3464
05:07:06,700 --> 05:07:07,140
I get it all.

3465
05:07:07,520 --> 05:07:07,720
You did?

3466
05:07:08,040 --> 05:07:08,220
Okay.

3467
05:07:08,500 --> 05:07:09,700
And so I popped up a slide.

3468
05:07:09,840 --> 05:07:13,020
I mean, so the, you're just a refresher on the salt grant agriculture.

3469
05:07:13,680 --> 05:07:16,760
The, the, the salt grant program is currently underway.

3470
05:07:17,020 --> 05:07:22,520
It's led by the Ag Department to create a plan to, to support agricultural viability in the Solano County.

3471
05:07:22,900 --> 05:07:25,120
And it's funded through a Department of Conservation Grant.

3472
05:07:25,360 --> 05:07:34,660
It's a $500,000 planning grant awarded to study ways to enhance the county's land use, infrastructure, and economic development policies in support of the viability of the agricultural industry.

3473
05:07:34,660 --> 05:07:39,220
Three focus areas are currently be studied, and recommendations are meant to inform the general

3474
05:07:39,220 --> 05:07:42,040
plan update, especially the agriculture chapter, to your point.

3475
05:07:42,380 --> 05:07:42,920
Thank you.

3476
05:07:43,380 --> 05:07:43,480
Yes.

3477
05:07:43,840 --> 05:07:45,920
The grant's not going to get pulled from the system.

3478
05:07:46,280 --> 05:07:47,440
No, no, we don't.

3479
05:07:47,600 --> 05:07:48,340
We took the money.

3480
05:07:48,500 --> 05:07:50,200
I just, and the check in advance.

3481
05:07:50,460 --> 05:07:51,580
No, we took it in a rant.

3482
05:07:51,860 --> 05:07:55,780
We just got a reward of the CDB grant that you guys approved, let's go for.

3483
05:07:55,860 --> 05:07:57,900
So that, that didn't get pulled together, so that's good news.

3484
05:07:58,100 --> 05:07:58,220
Good.

3485
05:08:01,830 --> 05:08:03,790
Yeah, supervisor Williams got it.

3486
05:08:03,830 --> 05:08:04,470
To the chair.

3487
05:08:04,470 --> 05:08:34,150
And in reference to the economic development, when we were discussing earlier today, not this meeting, but her first meeting, we talked about industrial areas, some of the industrial areas that we have, and I do recall when we were having the priority setting, then we were talking about ag innovation, and I was just thinking maybe those are some areas that we can identify where, you know,

3488
05:08:34,150 --> 05:08:39,630
So they're doing ag robotics or different things that they can do that kind of work without

3489
05:08:39,630 --> 05:08:45,890
taking up land, but still be a part of the ag economic development plan.

3490
05:08:46,250 --> 05:08:51,930
Highlight locations where these ag innovations can take place.

3491
05:08:52,310 --> 05:08:59,930
And identifying those types of uses that we may not have envisioned in the 2000 HR plan forming them into the

3492
05:08:59,930 --> 05:09:01,290
the updates to expand it.

3493
05:09:01,330 --> 05:09:01,490
Yes.

3494
05:09:02,390 --> 05:09:03,150
Okay, great.

3495
05:09:03,270 --> 05:09:03,970
Ellis, I'll thank you.

3496
05:09:03,990 --> 05:09:08,610
That's if I could, to one this point, you know, even if it's,

3497
05:09:08,730 --> 05:09:13,570
if you do ag innovation on ag land, producing the robot there,

3498
05:09:13,890 --> 05:09:15,850
the robot's going to go out and pick in that field.

3499
05:09:16,830 --> 05:09:21,030
I had a robot company that was looking to come to Sloan County,

3500
05:09:21,570 --> 05:09:23,450
they were developing robots to pick grapes,

3501
05:09:24,170 --> 05:09:27,670
but they needed a field in order to next to their facility,

3502
05:09:27,670 --> 05:09:31,370
you know, a test field to be able to roll the robot out in the pick.

3503
05:09:31,610 --> 05:09:39,670
So it's not that it has to be either or, but it can be both where you allow for some research

3504
05:09:39,670 --> 05:09:45,510
or development on a piece of ag property in which they're going to then test their new robot

3505
05:09:45,510 --> 05:09:51,390
or whatever it is, their new machine for harvesting or picking out in the field in a test field.

3506
05:09:53,760 --> 05:10:19,200
So kind of like we do with, or it's kind of like some of the agricultural tourism piece where they have to have a certain amount of agriculture, you know, 70% of the land has to be agriculture in 25% of the land could be utilized for a research purpose or just like with the tourism piece where they get to build a structure.

3507
05:10:25,460 --> 05:10:46,760
Yeah, we have all these UC graduates coming out of school, you know, and when they're in school, they have the use of the labs and all of that. But once they come out, you know, where do they go next? Well, they're going to go someplace that's got the facilities or go work for someone that's got the facilities where they're going to develop their own, but still they need, they need that those areas. So

3508
05:10:46,760 --> 05:10:52,720
So more things to think about.

3509
05:10:53,320 --> 05:10:57,320
In our proximity to UC Davis is something that I don't think we've really fully tapped

3510
05:10:57,320 --> 05:10:57,920
into yet.

3511
05:10:58,040 --> 05:11:02,340
And I think there are definitely areas in the county where we could do a lot more in

3512
05:11:02,340 --> 05:11:02,660
that front.

3513
05:11:04,680 --> 05:11:05,160
Great.

3514
05:11:05,520 --> 05:11:05,720
All right.

3515
05:11:05,920 --> 05:11:06,260
Halfway point.

3516
05:11:09,100 --> 05:11:10,060
All right.

3517
05:11:10,400 --> 05:11:15,020
So we're going to transition from the priorities and then start talking about some of the elements

3518
05:11:15,020 --> 05:11:21,920
It's within the general plan that sort of identify it, frame it, we're going to go through some of that as we talked about.

3519
05:11:22,000 --> 05:11:26,520
There's a lot more information here that's a little bit more in depth as to specific topics.

3520
05:11:26,840 --> 05:11:30,700
So as we transition, so we're going to look at the high level general plan considerations.

3521
05:11:30,920 --> 05:11:35,180
Obviously, a measure T is critical that we understand that and work with that.

3522
05:11:35,680 --> 05:11:38,420
We want to talk about some of the annexations in the city expansions.

3523
05:11:38,420 --> 05:11:43,400
we've sort of hinted to that as it relates to conversion of Ag Land provision of housing

3524
05:11:43,400 --> 05:11:44,080
and things like that.

3525
05:11:45,180 --> 05:11:49,680
We've talked quite a bit about utility provision and infrastructure, how that currently sits

3526
05:11:49,680 --> 05:11:54,740
in what the limitations are for us to do stuff in the anticorporated area and how it does focus

3527
05:11:54,740 --> 05:11:55,660
growth into the cities.

3528
05:11:56,440 --> 05:12:00,440
Energy development, we talked earlier the day about about Bess's, but there's also solar,

3529
05:12:00,640 --> 05:12:04,280
there's other method upwind, there's a lot of energy development and a lot of it wants

3530
05:12:04,280 --> 05:12:05,840
to be here in Solano County for some reason.

3531
05:12:06,960 --> 05:12:11,800
Housing, we're going to touch more on the housing and just sort of the nuance of how the housing

3532
05:12:11,800 --> 05:12:16,220
is focused in cities, if the board wants some other consideration of that, how do we

3533
05:12:16,220 --> 05:12:19,820
achieve that through the general plan, and then we'll finish up sort of with the statutory

3534
05:12:19,820 --> 05:12:20,400
requirements.

3535
05:12:20,540 --> 05:12:24,120
We touched on it in the last meeting in March, but it's really to identify some of the new

3536
05:12:24,120 --> 05:12:29,200
things that have come since 2008 from the state level, and that you and the public

3537
05:12:29,200 --> 05:12:31,380
needs to consider as we start to update the general plan.

3538
05:12:31,380 --> 05:12:33,020
So let's go jump right in.

3539
05:12:34,100 --> 05:12:36,060
All right, so general planning situation measure T.

3540
05:12:36,640 --> 05:12:41,780
And these are very strong ties to board priorities E2A1 and A3

3541
05:12:41,780 --> 05:12:43,020
as we've talked earlier.

3542
05:12:43,840 --> 05:12:46,480
As we mentioned, measure T is really integrated

3543
05:12:46,480 --> 05:12:47,580
into the general plan.

3544
05:12:48,640 --> 05:12:50,420
Land designated it as aqua hulture

3545
05:12:50,420 --> 05:12:52,120
and the general plan requires a vote to alter.

3546
05:12:52,440 --> 05:12:56,300
This is critical, it's a very key aspect

3547
05:12:56,300 --> 05:13:00,540
of how we protect ag and how we focus growth

3548
05:13:00,540 --> 05:13:05,180
into the cities. It establishes minimum lot sizes based on agricultural region.

3549
05:13:05,440 --> 05:13:09,980
That's its methodology. Obviously, the board has to consider, and the public needs to consider that needs to change,

3550
05:13:10,020 --> 05:13:20,960
or if that's a good basis to continue with. Agricultural lands may be re-designated per policies in the agricultural section policy number 32 through P-36,

3551
05:13:21,280 --> 05:13:23,520
and I don't know if I have to cheat you on that, but we can get you that.

3552
05:13:24,160 --> 05:13:29,180
It's based on required findings or state housing law compliance. So, there are ways to re-designate.

3553
05:13:29,180 --> 05:13:31,600
Yeah, I think that's the, is that the 50-acre rule?

3554
05:13:31,980 --> 05:13:35,520
Yeah, and so there are ways to be designated, land for housing specifically.

3555
05:13:36,020 --> 05:13:39,380
They have a lot of loopholes for them, but there's identification of how that happens.

3556
05:13:40,000 --> 05:13:46,700
As we mentioned earlier, the, the measure T currently allows only two residences per legal parcel designated as agriculture.

3557
05:13:48,100 --> 05:13:50,160
And it doesn't apply to city annexations.

3558
05:13:50,420 --> 05:13:58,180
And so once that, once a parcel is converted, or something's converted to annexation, it no longer has the requirements of measure T on it.

3559
05:13:58,180 --> 05:13:59,600
and it moves into the city realm.

3560
05:14:00,620 --> 05:14:03,000
It measured key limits development opportunities

3561
05:14:03,000 --> 05:14:04,360
in certain unincorporated areas,

3562
05:14:04,360 --> 05:14:06,680
and that's by its definition of orderly growth.

3563
05:14:07,360 --> 05:14:11,140
Measure T requirements in effect until December 31st of 2028,

3564
05:14:11,380 --> 05:14:12,940
unless repealed or amended by the voters.

3565
05:14:13,580 --> 05:14:15,540
So that's just a little history on the measure T.

3566
05:14:15,680 --> 05:14:18,160
If there's any questions or comments on that,

3567
05:14:18,360 --> 05:14:18,920
jump through.

3568
05:14:19,040 --> 05:14:19,600
Oh, it's any late.

3569
05:14:20,060 --> 05:14:20,200
Okay.

3570
05:14:21,280 --> 05:14:23,960
As we referenced earlier in the earlier presentation,

3571
05:14:24,240 --> 05:14:26,460
this is the land use diagram LU-1.

3572
05:14:26,460 --> 05:14:31,460
It really is that the working document from the general plan that identified all the land

3573
05:14:31,460 --> 05:14:38,040
uses that were anticipated or determined through the general plan quite a bit on there.

3574
05:14:38,220 --> 05:14:44,020
But as you can see, predominantly, it's focused on agriculture in the unincorporated

3575
05:14:44,020 --> 05:14:47,840
areas with very, very distinct and focused city-centered growth.

3576
05:14:51,880 --> 05:14:56,860
This slide is from the general plan, it's the opportunity sites.

3577
05:14:56,880 --> 05:14:59,680
We've talked a little bit about that in multiple presentations today.

3578
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:04,600
But as you can see, there are commercial and industrial designations.

3579
05:15:07,060 --> 05:15:29,440
The two big ones you see are down in Collinsville and the Lambie we talked about during the best process. But there are some others in the north part of the county, indics is the IAS area. The question, obviously, as we go forward, are these meet in the needs of the board in the community for how we want to continue forward, or are there expanded areas that we want to consider?

3580
05:15:29,440 --> 05:16:00,820
As part of our process, we have looked at the opportunities along the corridor for economic development opportunities within the unincorporated area but related to the highway corridor, and that study is currently underway, obviously we'll bring forward more information, but there's opportunities currently, we've identified eight sites that with the current provisions of measure T and the current conditions of the general plan and zoning,

3581
05:16:00,820 --> 05:16:18,140
I mean, these are opportunity sites where economic development could happen, and so as we go through that study process and bring it forward, we can identify some uses and differing levels of uses based upon what's available on site for services, what's adjacent in the cities that would have to be negotiated or other opportunities.

3582
05:16:18,140 --> 05:16:21,280
So it's an important consideration for us as we go forward.

3583
05:16:21,900 --> 05:16:33,140
It's a starting point for this general plan and this question if we, whether we, we think this is the best methodology for us to get unincorporated economic development, or if there's expansion into other areas.

3584
05:16:37,660 --> 05:16:47,720
Sorry, that would mean it's okay to an early discussion, a discussion point, green belts, green belts are identified in the general plan on the screen.

3585
05:16:47,720 --> 05:16:57,700
You can see the green one's pretty well, but there are some sort of muddy brown and light-brown areas down in between Valeo and Benesha.

3586
05:16:58,240 --> 05:17:07,340
But the idea with the green belts is that there are a mechanism to manage growth that directs urban development away from certain areas through the definition of the green belt.

3587
05:17:08,420 --> 05:17:16,320
It preserves identity by maintaining clear separations between cities and communities that's fallen apart somewhat through annexations over the past 20 years.

3588
05:17:16,320 --> 05:17:20,400
Some areas there is very little distinction between the areas, but the intention and

3589
05:17:20,400 --> 05:17:24,420
the opportunity with these green belts is to start to either reestablish those or

3590
05:17:24,420 --> 05:17:25,620
continue to enforce those.

3591
05:17:26,300 --> 05:17:29,920
The goal really is to protect agriculture and it tends to preserve farmland that

3592
05:17:29,920 --> 05:17:35,440
really is its primary goal, and it has a byproduct of safeguard in the environment.

3593
05:17:35,700 --> 05:17:38,980
These areas can be used to conserve open space, habitats, and natural resources.

3594
05:17:41,110 --> 05:17:42,270
Looking to sacrifice our vases.

3595
05:17:42,270 --> 05:17:45,030
Yeah, I was looking to not do for Greenbelts, John.

3596
05:17:45,830 --> 05:17:48,890
Did you want to chime in on that real quick, or do you want me to do it?

3597
05:17:50,330 --> 05:17:50,910
I know.

3598
05:17:51,230 --> 05:17:52,290
Chase the Brown ones, the green ones.

3599
05:17:53,050 --> 05:17:58,270
I just, I think that we need to have a greater level of focus on the Greenbelts

3600
05:17:58,270 --> 05:18:04,670
and on their preservation in particular, and expansion to some degree, and how they're managed.

3601
05:18:05,090 --> 05:18:06,270
I'm just giving our part to help.

3602
05:18:06,510 --> 05:18:11,050
Yeah, we should be doing our part to help as accounting with that, because when you look

3603
05:18:11,050 --> 05:18:14,770
Look at some of the annexation that have taken place, and I'll just use an example in my district,

3604
05:18:15,870 --> 05:18:18,410
where Fairfield and Vacaville literally touch now.

3605
05:18:19,410 --> 05:18:22,730
If you look up Bannon Road, right, you go right up from the One Lake Project,

3606
05:18:23,990 --> 05:18:30,570
and there, you pass one sign that says, City of Fairfield, and then you're in City of Vacaville.

3607
05:18:30,690 --> 05:18:31,390
It's like that quick.

3608
05:18:32,430 --> 05:18:36,830
So we need to make sure that somebody's got their finger on the pulse, and

3609
05:18:36,830 --> 05:18:42,510
that were making sure that those lands are protected and expanded in all of those things.

3610
05:18:42,750 --> 05:18:47,350
Well, and that's this is one where I think a future discussion probably, but conservation

3611
05:18:47,350 --> 05:18:51,670
easements, to me, if you're going to use conservation easements, those are the places

3612
05:18:51,670 --> 05:18:55,530
we ought to be focused on them, not in some of the other areas that have received

3613
05:18:55,530 --> 05:18:56,510
conservation easements.

3614
05:18:56,670 --> 05:18:57,490
I would agree with that.

3615
05:18:58,450 --> 05:18:59,330
Monica, you wanted to.

3616
05:18:59,350 --> 05:19:03,190
Well, yeah, I'm assuming maybe conservation is what I'm thinking of.

3617
05:19:03,190 --> 05:19:10,110
But I think Greenbelts should be available so that you can ride your bike that you can,

3618
05:19:10,690 --> 05:19:14,410
you know, have swim sets and you'll be taking your money away when you've been waiting

3619
05:19:14,410 --> 05:19:16,910
for seven years to build a park.

3620
05:19:17,470 --> 05:19:22,130
But those kinds of things, it even put in a swimming pool because we do not have swimming

3621
05:19:22,130 --> 05:19:27,150
pools in Sloan County for regular residents to go and learn how to swim.

3622
05:19:27,150 --> 05:19:34,890
So I think there's things that we could do, but it would look separate rather than just

3623
05:19:34,890 --> 05:19:37,990
build a tree or something because in 20 years someone's going to forget.

3624
05:19:38,170 --> 05:19:39,610
Why didn't we put trees right here?

3625
05:19:40,050 --> 05:19:40,970
That doesn't make any sense.

3626
05:19:41,190 --> 05:19:43,010
We can cut them down and put in some homes.

3627
05:19:43,850 --> 05:19:44,570
But I agree with you.

3628
05:19:44,650 --> 05:19:46,050
There needs to be this separation.

3629
05:19:47,930 --> 05:19:50,890
And a lot of water, so they don't catch on fire.

3630
05:19:53,130 --> 05:20:01,150
I agree with my colleagues who said we definitely need to preserve our open spaces and those

3631
05:20:01,150 --> 05:20:02,070
green belts.

3632
05:20:03,590 --> 05:20:13,870
John and I sit on a green belt and then I sit on open space and I've been working

3633
05:20:13,870 --> 05:20:19,450
I mean, we're watching the team while burning out there.

3634
05:20:20,390 --> 05:20:26,870
Just making sure that we're doing everything we can to preserve those places that we have identified.

3635
05:20:27,390 --> 05:20:29,890
So I just wanted to add that.

3636
05:20:30,090 --> 05:20:30,350
Thank you.

3637
05:20:32,510 --> 05:20:33,490
Okay, great.

3638
05:20:33,710 --> 05:20:34,870
All right, ready, go you.

3639
05:20:35,270 --> 05:20:35,950
All right, next slide.

3640
05:20:36,530 --> 05:20:43,710
All right, so annexations and city expansions that are related to our housing and our cultural priorities.

3641
05:20:45,250 --> 05:20:48,830
So, you know, Measure T allows Ag conversion through city annexations.

3642
05:20:48,930 --> 05:20:52,910
That's the only way that Ag can be converted under Measure T is through an annexation.

3643
05:20:53,510 --> 05:20:58,590
Cities grow by establishing spheres of influence and annexations must occur within those spheres of influence.

3644
05:20:59,290 --> 05:21:04,770
State housing policy, including SB 330, encourages infill development and reuse of underutilized

3645
05:21:04,770 --> 05:21:08,350
parcels to meet housing needs before consuming valuable agricultural lands.

3646
05:21:08,350 --> 05:21:13,950
I think it's a point that this board has conveyed to us and that we want to have the discussion

3647
05:21:13,950 --> 05:21:18,430
with the cities on, the first methodologies shouldn't be to just annex.

3648
05:21:18,570 --> 05:21:29,670
It should be to re-utilize areas within your cities to intensify development, intensify densities, and look there before looking to annex an area or to set up a new sphere of influence.

3649
05:21:30,870 --> 05:21:42,170
And then Solana County general plan goals is to maintain existing communities, develop vacant lands within existing communities presently, and develop lands immediately adjacent to existing communities where services can be provided.

3650
05:21:42,170 --> 05:21:42,690
We

3651
05:21:51,040 --> 05:21:55,820
don't plan to meet with adjacent to existing communities where services can be easily

3652
05:21:55,820 --> 05:21:56,160
planned.

3653
05:21:56,240 --> 05:21:57,660
That's not what I want.

3654
05:21:58,480 --> 05:22:01,700
That's what's in the current general plan so yeah that's when the current does not

3655
05:22:01,700 --> 05:22:03,820
what we're proposing is what the current general plan.

3656
05:22:03,840 --> 05:22:04,120
Okay.

3657
05:22:04,520 --> 05:22:04,900
Okay.

3658
05:22:05,860 --> 05:22:07,080
Those are those are the current goals.

3659
05:22:07,480 --> 05:22:08,040
Those are the current goals.

3660
05:22:08,400 --> 05:22:08,880
Sorry.

3661
05:22:09,060 --> 05:22:10,220
I wasn't very clear when.

3662
05:22:15,540 --> 05:22:19,360
Well and I think that part of what that one was getting it was to avoid leapfrogs

3663
05:22:31,060 --> 05:22:38,440
So, as we continue to the discussion, recent proposals from City show potential for significant expansion, so we've seen some of the proposals that have come forward.

3664
05:22:39,140 --> 05:22:45,140
Speculative expansion of spheres of influence and areas of interest can place additional pressure to convert agricultural lands.

3665
05:22:45,140 --> 05:22:49,200
Targeted General Plan update should explore agricultural spheres of influence

3666
05:22:49,200 --> 05:22:53,660
for protections of key agricultural lands near cities and similar to the Green Belt concept,

3667
05:22:53,820 --> 05:22:58,300
but you're identifying agricultural spheres of influence that should stay and remain.

3668
05:22:58,760 --> 05:23:02,980
It's a concept that it was, you know, if you're interested, we could discuss through the process.

3669
05:23:03,920 --> 05:23:08,220
I think we really need to explore ways to establish some sense of permanence to agriculture.

3670
05:23:08,680 --> 05:23:14,880
Otherwise, there's going to be ongoing expectation and eventually it will erode to the point

3671
05:23:14,880 --> 05:23:16,660
where agriculture won't be viable in the county.

3672
05:23:16,800 --> 05:23:21,180
So it's something that I think we need to really focus on as part of the general plan update.

3673
05:23:26,450 --> 05:23:30,610
Okay, on screen, we're showing as part of the annexations and city expansion discussion.

3674
05:23:31,830 --> 05:23:37,030
The map on the screen, there are outline areas reds and blues and greens and light blues.

3675
05:23:37,670 --> 05:23:44,690
Those outline areas are the current adopted spheres of influence that the cities currently have.

3676
05:23:44,690 --> 05:23:48,750
the around the areas of the cities, and those are the areas that are currently adopted.

3677
05:23:48,930 --> 05:23:57,770
The table we show is that in the 2008 general plan there were about 81,678 acres of

3678
05:23:58,730 --> 05:24:06,010
incorporated area. When we came to the board and did the MSA amendments in 2023, the city

3679
05:24:06,010 --> 05:24:12,950
areas were up to 98,458 acres. So it was quite a bit of an increase over the, you know, those 15

3680
05:24:12,950 --> 05:24:21,990
years, and then in addition to those areas, the 31,361 acres is currently sitting in adopted

3681
05:24:21,990 --> 05:24:25,190
spheres of influence, and those are those areas that are outlined on the map.

3682
05:24:26,570 --> 05:24:33,970
To be clear, though, and it goes to say that all the adopted spheres of influence, it

3683
05:24:33,970 --> 05:24:37,130
does not necessarily mean that that acreage is designated for development.

3684
05:24:37,630 --> 05:24:41,850
Some of the areas were, you know, would be annexed into the city for other purposes other

3685
05:24:41,850 --> 05:24:42,430
than development.

3686
05:24:42,430 --> 05:24:48,550
So we're not implying that all 31,000 acres will be converted from whatever their use is to to some form of development.

3687
05:24:48,830 --> 05:24:54,850
But as it stands right now, there's about 31,000 acres that are just sitting there waiting for annexation to be converted.

3688
05:24:56,410 --> 05:25:04,050
The shaded area is the blue and the sort of mustard, I guess mustard color.

3689
05:25:04,050 --> 05:25:14,530
The light blew up the top is the information that we received from Dixon on their NOP for the areas of interest and their sphere of influence of expansions.

3690
05:25:15,110 --> 05:25:20,970
And then the mustard area is the, is this a soon plan for California forever?

3691
05:25:21,550 --> 05:25:28,630
And those acres are almost 28,000 additional acres on top of the 31,000 that are currently in spheres of influence.

3692
05:25:28,630 --> 05:25:39,350
So as those go through the process, if those are incorporated into the spheres of interest that that wouldn't that would more than almost double the current spheres of interest for that are in the county.

3693
05:25:41,180 --> 05:25:45,740
Meaning that they would almost double the size of our incorporated cities, overall.

3694
05:25:46,880 --> 05:25:47,780
Potentially, yeah.

3695
05:25:48,240 --> 05:25:51,360
Yeah, 150%.

3696
05:25:51,360 --> 05:25:52,620
All right.

3697
05:25:55,400 --> 05:26:01,740
So this map is a comparison of the 1962 city boundaries and the current boundaries.

3698
05:26:02,740 --> 05:26:09,720
We work in GIS, 1962 was picked because that was really the first sort of mass recordation

3699
05:26:09,720 --> 05:26:10,820
of all the city outlines.

3700
05:26:10,820 --> 05:26:15,340
It's the most comprehensive look that we have of where the cities were at a point in time.

3701
05:26:16,040 --> 05:26:23,420
So the red areas are the cities as they were in 1962, and then the green hatched areas are

3702
05:26:23,420 --> 05:26:27,840
where the cities are now to show sort of a level of annexation that's happened over the

3703
05:26:27,840 --> 05:26:32,520
in the past, roughly 60 years, and the growth that has happened in those areas in conversion.

3704
05:26:33,060 --> 05:26:35,840
How many acres is that, do you know, the hashtag?

3705
05:26:38,240 --> 05:26:40,280
No, I'll see if you have to take it for that.

3706
05:26:40,340 --> 05:26:45,180
Now, since it's more display purposes, because the source of the map was a map from 1962,

3707
05:26:45,740 --> 05:26:49,940
so the projections usually don't line up, so we don't really have a clear number on that right now.

3708
05:26:50,240 --> 05:26:55,860
I just be curious to know, given our previous discussion, curious to know how much of

3709
05:26:55,860 --> 05:27:00,060
that because most of what I'm looking at here was prime or close to prime

3710
05:27:00,060 --> 05:27:04,280
Aglan, how much of that prime Aglan did we lose in that 60 years?

3711
05:27:04,500 --> 05:27:05,580
That looks pretty significant.

3712
05:27:06,180 --> 05:27:08,800
We can work on, obviously, it's data we can work on.

3713
05:27:08,840 --> 05:27:12,160
You've got a lot of other stuff you've got to do, I'm just, I'm just pointing that out.

3714
05:27:12,580 --> 05:27:17,640
Man, you know, I'm just, I'm not saying that city center growth wasn't a good idea.

3715
05:27:18,060 --> 05:27:23,540
I'm just saying it didn't, it looks like it didn't help and do what it was supposed to do

3716
05:27:23,540 --> 05:27:27,560
because we developed on all of this private land right here.

3717
05:27:27,860 --> 05:27:31,800
We might have kept it all in one spot, but we still covered up a whole bunch of

3718
05:27:31,800 --> 05:27:31,960
egg.

3719
05:27:33,060 --> 05:27:38,660
And then this slide, it's just showing the new proposed annexations in areas of interest

3720
05:27:38,660 --> 05:27:43,220
for the Sassoon expansion plan and the Dixon-NOP.

3721
05:27:43,880 --> 05:27:49,660
So it's a representation of what we know potentially is coming forward to the process.

3722
05:27:51,500 --> 05:27:58,440
We're still doing a deep dive on some of this data and looking at things like what historical absorption rates are and things like that.

3723
05:27:58,520 --> 05:28:06,000
I think that's all going to be relevant as we get further into this and really start looking at the true impacts and what the opportunities are as well.

3724
05:28:10,650 --> 05:28:13,250
So to somewhat to your point, but not as not.

3725
05:28:13,610 --> 05:28:22,430
Oh no, it is, it's more that I'm just was thinking which I know it's always scary is that as we have climate change.

3726
05:28:22,430 --> 05:28:26,950
There's a lot of areas around the world that are not going to be able to grow food.

3727
05:28:27,910 --> 05:28:33,650
And to me, that is something when we talk about keeping egg, egg, is that we need to keep

3728
05:28:33,650 --> 05:28:36,630
what's happening here so that we can grow.

3729
05:28:37,610 --> 05:28:42,990
And Ed, I know we sent, I mean, I remember that map that you have where a lot of our food

3730
05:28:42,990 --> 05:28:48,990
goes around the world, but a lot of people, there's issues, a lot of people, if we talk about

3731
05:28:48,990 --> 05:28:52,030
I'm not hungry here, based on this morning's conversation.

3732
05:28:52,770 --> 05:28:59,910
It's not going to get any better around the world, and we need to keep our ag as pristine as possible because we grow food here.

3733
05:29:00,690 --> 05:29:01,790
That's what we do.

3734
05:29:03,330 --> 05:29:03,850
Absolutely.

3735
05:29:04,330 --> 05:29:07,970
So that was my editorial and my head.

3736
05:29:08,490 --> 05:29:08,570
Great.

3737
05:29:10,290 --> 05:29:15,810
This table, so it's sort of in line with what we were asking for, but it's from a specific point in time.

3738
05:29:15,810 --> 05:29:24,070
We worked with the ad commissioner on looking at the conversion of ag lands from 1984, which was the sort of the start of Prop A.

3739
05:29:24,950 --> 05:29:33,510
In 1984, we had identified a hundred and basically 181,000 acres of important front farm land, that includes prime farm land.

3740
05:29:33,750 --> 05:29:41,450
We also had about 220,000 acres of grazing land for a total of 401,000 acres of these specific types of land.

3741
05:29:41,450 --> 05:29:49,450
In 1920, the important farmland had gone down to 147,500 acres and grazing has gone down to 205.

3742
05:29:49,710 --> 05:29:59,010
So it's a nexus of about 50,000 acres that have been converted since 1984 from Ag Land into.

3743
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:00,360
Development.

3744
05:30:07,030 --> 05:30:36,030
Let's transition to utility provision and infrastructure. So development is historically limited in the anticorporated areas we've discussed. The general plan principle of what is urban, shall be municipal, and that means that municipal services must be negotiated with the cities and expansion in the anticorporated areas is typically not happening. Increased demand for utilities will lead increased public service capacity constraints. We've already heard that from any of the utility groups.

3745
05:30:36,030 --> 05:30:38,910
groups, that there are constraints and concerns.

3746
05:30:39,550 --> 05:30:44,610
Well and septic can limit size and scope of developments and there's a state process we

3747
05:30:44,610 --> 05:30:49,130
currently go through for water systems which also is really the main mechanism for us to

3748
05:30:49,130 --> 05:30:51,570
do any development in the under-corporated area.

3749
05:30:52,110 --> 05:30:56,070
It's very time, it takes a lot of time, there's a lot of restrictions and it's very restrictive.

3750
05:30:56,810 --> 05:31:01,350
Package plants and other systems require additional research but we are looking into those solutions

3751
05:31:02,390 --> 05:31:13,530
from some form of municipal services, but, you know, through all these process in the infrastructure studies and things like that, we can identify the different methodologies and understand what they do and can do for the county.

3752
05:31:14,390 --> 05:31:20,330
And then agri-terrism may require exploration of policies that focus infrastructure to certain agricultural regions.

3753
05:31:21,010 --> 05:31:28,090
And that's to say, with agri-terrism, we're looking at, you know, we're looking at what we call resort hotels, things like that.

3754
05:31:28,090 --> 05:31:32,830
Those have a much higher service need, may not be feasibly done with some of these systems,

3755
05:31:32,830 --> 05:31:38,050
and may need to look at if there is any focus of revisions that allow for

3756
05:31:38,790 --> 05:31:40,710
infrastructure in the unincorporated area.

3757
05:31:41,050 --> 05:31:45,270
Maybe that's where those are focused to be an open dialogue to try to concentrate those,

3758
05:31:45,430 --> 05:31:47,690
to limit the growth into those areas, which you've already identified.

3759
05:31:50,510 --> 05:31:50,970
I agree.

3760
05:31:51,510 --> 05:31:53,610
Okay, energy.

3761
05:31:54,330 --> 05:31:58,370
So this is one of the E3 priorities of the board.

3762
05:31:58,370 --> 05:32:01,410
So, energy demands in California makes a lot of attractive.

3763
05:32:01,710 --> 05:32:05,250
We've seen that from all the discussions we've had recently on a lot of stuff.

3764
05:32:05,770 --> 05:32:09,110
It impacts open space, wind resource area, and transmission lines,

3765
05:32:09,770 --> 05:32:14,170
transmission overhead and under with pipelines and electrical conduits, everything.

3766
05:32:14,430 --> 05:32:17,270
All the transmission lines, we have a lot of lines that go through the county.

3767
05:32:17,990 --> 05:32:22,750
They go through the county, I mean, just to state that they don't stay here, they don't benefit us.

3768
05:32:23,230 --> 05:32:26,030
And there are critical resources that a lot of people have eyes on.

3769
05:32:26,030 --> 05:32:51,170
The best is, you know, we are looking at the Pending AB 205 applications, we're going through that process, we took action this morning to provide some more clarity and we'll continue to work either through the CEC process to provide meaningful comments and provisions to help protect the public or finalize the ordinance that really directs it how that's going to go forward.

3770
05:32:52,130 --> 05:32:57,090
wind turbines still remain we keep getting what we still have inquiries about

3771
05:32:57,090 --> 05:33:02,710
expansion or replacement of some of those they are we've sort of had a limit on

3772
05:33:02,710 --> 05:33:05,790
those recently but they're still out there it's another form of energy that

3773
05:33:05,790 --> 05:33:09,430
that has an interest in Sloan County because of our wind patterns we have a very

3774
05:33:09,430 --> 05:33:13,230
unique wind system that goes to the county that makes it very attractive for wind

3775
05:33:13,230 --> 05:33:17,650
turbines natural gas wells they're on they seem to be on a cycle we've had a spike

3776
05:33:17,650 --> 05:33:24,470
Like recently in the reestablishment of natural gas wells, we're finding that in the currently

3777
05:33:24,470 --> 05:33:30,450
for data centers, and there's a big proliferation of needs for data centers, data centers need

3778
05:33:30,450 --> 05:33:34,330
natural gas as much as they need solar and battery storage.

3779
05:33:35,650 --> 05:33:38,770
Natural gas is the preferred methodology for backup generation.

3780
05:33:39,410 --> 05:33:46,010
It's something that most of them require, and so we've seen a rise in the re initiation

3781
05:33:46,010 --> 05:33:50,450
of natural gas wells in the Dixon area, we have a large field out there.

3782
05:33:51,050 --> 05:33:55,870
It seems to be on a 10-year cycle, they open the well, they process it, and

3783
05:33:55,870 --> 05:34:00,170
then they go dark for a while, and it rebuilds up, and then they reopen the well.

3784
05:34:01,050 --> 05:34:04,470
But that's a natural resource within our county that's kind of valuable.

3785
05:34:05,070 --> 05:34:07,570
And then solar, so we currently have a prohibition on ag land.

3786
05:34:08,070 --> 05:34:10,550
But many inquiries to build come forward.

3787
05:34:10,730 --> 05:34:15,010
There's a lot of interest in us looking at the moratorium on those solar.

3788
05:34:16,170 --> 05:34:20,970
There's new technologies that, you know, happy sheep, I think, is the terminology.

3789
05:34:21,810 --> 05:34:34,730
So there's opportunities for us if we want to look at the provision of solar in the county to sort of meet some of the needs that the state is identified and the public is identified, but still keep it consistent with our need to preserve ag.

3790
05:34:35,110 --> 05:34:36,210
There's opportunities there.

3791
05:34:36,910 --> 05:34:43,950
And then the general plan policy allows solar energy generation projects and open space areas working system with other uses and values.

3792
05:34:43,950 --> 05:34:46,610
That's a current general plan policy.

3793
05:34:47,890 --> 05:34:53,030
It's sort of contradicted by the more torn or the ordinance we have on solar, on ag.

3794
05:34:53,490 --> 05:34:58,850
So it's something that we would have to have discussion to resolve and to understand how we want to go forward with those types of projects.

3795
05:34:59,950 --> 05:35:02,110
So I don't have a problem having those discussions.

3796
05:35:02,530 --> 05:35:09,570
I just want to make sure as we move forward in those discussions that we are doing so with the best interest of our residents in mind.

3797
05:35:09,570 --> 05:35:14,050
because just like the best proposal that was brought forward this morning that benefits

3798
05:35:14,050 --> 05:35:18,930
the city of San Francisco, where the windmills out here on the ridge that are owned

3799
05:35:18,930 --> 05:35:22,610
by smud to produce electricity for smud, right?

3800
05:35:23,350 --> 05:35:31,530
We have had a history of these energy provision companies coming here and pillaging our resources.

3801
05:35:31,690 --> 05:35:33,170
I'll use that term pillaging them.

3802
05:35:34,070 --> 05:35:39,470
And taking them to other areas and none of that is of benefit to our residents, right?

3803
05:35:39,470 --> 05:35:45,990
They see the results, but there's no enhancement of our economic development.

3804
05:35:46,190 --> 05:35:54,470
There's no enhancement of our open space that's provided by any of those takes that occur

3805
05:35:54,470 --> 05:35:57,670
with regard to energy or land to produce it.

3806
05:35:58,170 --> 05:36:04,370
So when we look at the solar, if there is new technology out there that makes it possible

3807
05:36:04,370 --> 05:36:09,450
to have a solar panel and still graze sheep under it, or still do some type

3808
05:36:09,450 --> 05:36:15,190
of agriculture there so that the farmer has the ability to augment their agricultural income,

3809
05:36:15,790 --> 05:36:19,650
then maybe it's something we should be able to look at. The other piece of that, though,

3810
05:36:20,130 --> 05:36:26,850
is that until just recently, I was told that that was a detriment to the pilots out of Travis.

3811
05:36:27,650 --> 05:36:32,270
And so, but I was told technology is changing and it may be that they can put that in now and it

3812
05:36:32,270 --> 05:36:34,970
doesn't produce a glare and it's not a problem anymore.

3813
05:36:35,470 --> 05:36:37,270
That's, we've heard the same thing with regards to the employer.

3814
05:36:37,270 --> 05:36:40,170
But I'm a show me guy, right?

3815
05:36:40,350 --> 05:36:43,510
So somebody's got to show me that technology and let me know that it works and

3816
05:36:43,510 --> 05:36:47,990
I got to have Travis and the folks out there sign off on it and say, yeah, that's legit.

3817
05:36:49,090 --> 05:36:51,630
Before I would ever think we would even consider that.

3818
05:36:51,890 --> 05:36:54,690
So, anyway, that's my two cents on energy.

3819
05:36:55,110 --> 05:36:56,010
It sounds like a flyover.

3820
05:36:56,470 --> 05:36:57,570
Yeah, it sounds like.

3821
05:36:58,970 --> 05:37:00,550
All right, thank you, sir.

3822
05:37:01,670 --> 05:37:02,810
Oh, supervisor Brown.

3823
05:37:02,810 --> 05:37:16,890
Well, just two things. One, the group that does the, um, grows all the vegetables and stuff in the greenhouse is that is, yes, which was a, is that anything we need to even think about?

3824
05:37:16,950 --> 05:37:25,050
I'm just throwing this out in terms of Ag. Do, you know, that, because that's going to, that takes energy, that takes water, that takes the set or the other.

3825
05:37:25,050 --> 05:37:35,870
I'm just because that's how you're going to expand growing food for the for the world basically so just something to think about and the other is what how are we on internet?

3826
05:37:36,850 --> 05:37:37,330
Broadband?

3827
05:37:37,770 --> 05:37:42,590
Yeah, in other words, I have no idea what kind of what kind of energy it takes to make that happen.

3828
05:37:42,810 --> 05:37:52,210
But if you want to have broadband band and based on that map that we saw with what John wants to do on the different quarters of our quarters.

3829
05:37:52,210 --> 05:38:09,770
and then the I-80 corridor, you're going to have to have some sort of internet and I have no idea if I mean, you know, Tim can probably come and tell us something but I have no idea what kind of energy it takes and if you want to expand and people can work at home, you're going to have to have.

3830
05:38:11,250 --> 05:38:15,810
So when I'm aware of my brain right now, computers, internet, there we go.

3831
05:38:16,790 --> 05:38:17,270
Yeah.

3832
05:38:17,450 --> 05:38:17,930
I'm tired.

3833
05:38:18,510 --> 05:38:18,990
Sorry.

3834
05:38:19,430 --> 05:38:20,310
I'll get to do it.

3835
05:38:20,310 --> 05:38:25,470
I mean, obviously, that fits more into the infrastructure dialogue, and as part of the

3836
05:38:25,470 --> 05:38:30,690
general plan process, the provision of that can be discussed as either policy or a goal

3837
05:38:31,390 --> 05:38:32,310
to work towards.

3838
05:38:38,870 --> 05:38:39,370
Right at the end.

3839
05:38:40,390 --> 05:38:41,950
Luckily, there's a recording of this.

3840
05:38:43,010 --> 05:38:45,030
I can look on the internet and hear it.

3841
05:38:46,410 --> 05:38:46,890
Okay.

3842
05:38:47,830 --> 05:38:48,310
Transitioning.

3843
05:38:48,450 --> 05:38:49,310
We're going to jump to housing.

3844
05:38:49,310 --> 05:38:54,590
And so housing cost pressures are felt statewide and locally.

3845
05:38:55,290 --> 05:38:57,970
Cities and counties have housing obligations from the state, and

3846
05:38:57,970 --> 05:39:02,410
I'm referring really to Reena, and the Board of Priority Address Housing Affordability.

3847
05:39:02,550 --> 05:39:06,910
The Board has stated that in multiple instances that there's a priority to address it.

3848
05:39:07,370 --> 05:39:12,470
On screen is the current Reena, where there are current housing elements in the 2023 to

3849
05:39:12,470 --> 05:39:18,890
2031 year range, and this is just a breakout of how it's been broken out, and

3850
05:39:18,890 --> 05:39:24,050
In the expectations for each of the categories, as we go forward over the next, well, now we're down to six years.

3851
05:39:24,570 --> 05:39:28,110
But the target is 10,992 units county-wide.

3852
05:39:28,650 --> 05:39:39,490
We have a structure that's sort of unique in the state where we have a subgroup that works with the cities to handle the counties, and it's sort of a symbiotic relationship, which I think is kind of fascinating.

3853
05:39:40,150 --> 05:39:45,230
And we're seeing how that's working out, but it has created the opportunity to, again,

3854
05:39:45,230 --> 05:39:48,330
and balance the goals of our 2000 HR plan

3855
05:39:48,330 --> 05:39:50,090
and focus development and housing

3856
05:39:50,090 --> 05:39:53,030
into the cities as opposed to the incorporated area.

3857
05:39:56,600 --> 05:39:56,660
Okay?

3858
05:39:57,560 --> 05:39:59,520
Continuing with the discussion on the housing.

3859
05:40:01,100 --> 05:40:05,260
So currently, there are 13,000 housing units

3860
05:40:05,260 --> 05:40:07,520
countywide likely to be built within

3861
05:40:07,520 --> 05:40:09,000
the current rena cycle.

3862
05:40:09,220 --> 05:40:10,540
And I know that's going to be somewhat of a shock

3863
05:40:11,030 --> 05:40:12,880
to the board that there are,

3864
05:40:13,320 --> 05:40:16,340
from a proof for construction projects within the cities,

3865
05:40:16,760 --> 05:40:20,940
There's an additional 13,000 units excellently come online in the next five to eight years.

3866
05:40:21,580 --> 05:40:25,660
Now when we say approved, those have gone through the entitlement process and they're ready to go.

3867
05:40:26,020 --> 05:40:29,280
We're going to talk about some of the others that are part of some other plans and things like that.

3868
05:40:29,540 --> 05:40:34,980
But it's critical for, I think for this Board and the public to understand is that in the next five to eight years,

3869
05:40:35,180 --> 05:40:40,340
we should expect 34,000 new residents within the county, the ability for those.

3870
05:40:41,960 --> 05:40:43,440
Go ahead, finish it up.

3871
05:40:43,440 --> 05:40:51,200
Sure. So, you know, our current population as of 2024 was 455,000 people. We're very closely

3872
05:40:51,200 --> 05:40:57,360
get into the 489,000 level when those houses come online and using the 2.6, you know,

3873
05:40:57,480 --> 05:41:05,260
residents per unit. We're getting very close to the 500,000 threshold. Now, those are

3874
05:41:05,260 --> 05:41:10,000
approved and entitled projects. We also have applications received and when I say we,

3875
05:41:10,000 --> 05:41:14,700
I mean, countywide, the cities have received these projects applications to go forward.

3876
05:41:15,080 --> 05:41:20,680
There are 26,210 units considered within those projects as well.

3877
05:41:21,300 --> 05:41:27,180
That means there's a total of almost 40,000 projects anticipated in the cities to be built

3878
05:41:27,180 --> 05:41:29,440
over probably the next 15 to 20 years.

3879
05:41:30,020 --> 05:41:32,740
That takes us up to 557,000 people.

3880
05:41:33,280 --> 05:41:38,740
That includes some of the projects that we've seen on the previous maps and some of the annexation

3881
05:41:38,740 --> 05:41:45,380
areas. It does not include this as soon, California forever project, which the goal for that is

3882
05:41:45,380 --> 05:41:51,400
obviously 400,000 over the next 40 years. So I think it was important for the board to understand

3883
05:41:51,400 --> 05:41:56,500
that when we start talking about housing, there is a lot of housing development anticipated for the

3884
05:41:58,360 --> 05:42:02,820
county granted most of it's going to be market rate. I was just going to ask that. My question,

3885
05:42:02,960 --> 05:42:07,140
you knew I was going to ask that. How many of these fit into the category that we want to see?

3886
05:42:07,140 --> 05:42:07,880
Right?

3887
05:42:08,100 --> 05:42:15,920
Out of 39,000, almost 40,000 units, how many of those are at the AMI that we're talking

3888
05:42:15,920 --> 05:42:16,200
about?

3889
05:42:17,980 --> 05:42:19,480
I mean, we don't have that.

3890
05:42:19,480 --> 05:42:22,700
If they've submitted the projects, the data's out there somewhere, right?

3891
05:42:22,860 --> 05:42:23,680
We get to kind of know.

3892
05:42:24,020 --> 05:42:29,640
The data set is very large for what we have to just kind of present this individual look

3893
05:42:29,640 --> 05:42:30,200
at going.

3894
05:42:31,340 --> 05:42:32,360
I'm asking a lot.

3895
05:42:32,660 --> 05:42:32,760
Right?

3896
05:42:33,020 --> 05:42:33,180
Yeah.

3897
05:42:33,300 --> 05:42:33,900
You can say it.

3898
05:42:34,400 --> 05:42:35,060
I won't.

3899
05:42:35,060 --> 05:43:04,020
Well, we have to say, I mean, obviously we have the same questions, right, because we're trying to balance the importance of housing and the need for housing that the board is expressed to know that we have green and numbers that we have to meet, and there's some pretty hard numbers in the very low and moderate areas that aren't going to be met, the units that we see coming forward from the city are a large number of them, but we absolutely expect that they won't hit the low,

3900
05:43:04,020 --> 05:43:08,740
So very low or moderate range, they might be in the moderate to above moderate range and

3901
05:43:09,320 --> 05:43:10,900
try and get to our meet and numbers.

3902
05:43:11,160 --> 05:43:14,900
And the cities are very engaged in hitting those meet and numbers.

3903
05:43:15,080 --> 05:43:17,000
So these projects should meet that point.

3904
05:43:17,460 --> 05:43:20,640
But I think we look at this and there's an opportunity for more, right?

3905
05:43:20,900 --> 05:43:25,820
There's more opportunity to meet that lower end as opposed to just strictly converting

3906
05:43:26,620 --> 05:43:30,180
a headland for at scale or market housing.

3907
05:43:32,040 --> 05:43:37,220
in terms of affordable units, what I think we will see in terms of affordable units to get built,

3908
05:43:37,400 --> 05:43:41,140
I've got to be built, primarily, because of the opera money that either we use,

3909
05:43:41,240 --> 05:43:44,500
and we actually provided it to cities to help buy down some of their projects,

3910
05:43:45,000 --> 05:43:47,340
as well as some of the cities I think did some of it as well.

3911
05:43:47,520 --> 05:43:51,400
So once those funds are expended, which is in the next year or two,

3912
05:43:52,480 --> 05:43:56,080
going forward into the distant future, there's going to have to be new tools,

3913
05:43:56,080 --> 05:43:57,920
because there's not going to be our promoting in the future.

3914
05:43:57,920 --> 05:44:02,720
And we want to make sure that there's continuation of affordable housing built.

3915
05:44:02,980 --> 05:44:04,580
We're going to have to find other ways to do it.

3916
05:44:08,180 --> 05:44:10,080
I just want to make sure I'm understanding that.

3917
05:44:11,100 --> 05:44:16,200
I mean, it says approved for construction, so they've gone through whatever, and

3918
05:44:16,200 --> 05:44:18,200
they're just waiting there for money to show up.

3919
05:44:18,680 --> 05:44:22,660
And part of this number includes some units that are currently being constructed.

3920
05:44:22,660 --> 05:44:27,140
Maybe the project's not fully built out yet, so maybe I only built 20% of it.

3921
05:44:27,140 --> 05:44:30,640
But they're still going right now, they've just been approved.

3922
05:44:31,060 --> 05:44:33,300
It's various stages like what James was saying.

3923
05:44:33,300 --> 05:44:37,500
They're entitled, maybe they haven't dug in the dirt yet, because they're still taking care of it.

3924
05:44:37,500 --> 05:44:43,940
Yeah, you've got the final map process, you've got the building permit processes, those all take time.

3925
05:44:44,260 --> 05:44:47,820
So there's lag between when the entitlement is first issued to when they actually get built.

3926
05:44:48,260 --> 05:44:50,540
But a proof of construction is a pretty significant point.

3927
05:44:50,540 --> 05:44:59,840
These aren't vapor houses or these are houses that are going to happen groups have gone through the process.

3928
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:29,980
To get the entitlements, developers are looking to do these projects. So they are more real than they aren't. The next grouping, obviously, the 26,000 units for applications receive. Those have a much broader process. They have to go through to become reality, but they are on the horizon. I mean, they are actively interested parties with cities working to make those happen. And then for reference, we put up the 2010 Total Housing Units in Islamic County. We're at 150, just under 153,000.

3929
05:45:29,980 --> 05:45:40,720
in housing units, by 2020 we're up to 162,000 so that was sort of a net of 9,500 over a 10 year period in the next 10 to 15 years.

3930
05:45:40,920 --> 05:45:45,520
So we're looking at, we could be looking at 40,000 so that's a 4x sort of growth.

3931
05:45:46,360 --> 05:45:55,140
And again, that doesn't include if California forever comes on board, and things expand in some of those other areas, so it's a reference point.

3932
05:45:55,140 --> 05:46:04,430
All right, so that's really the bulk of the discussion we wanted to have on the board priorities in relation to the general plan.

3933
05:46:05,230 --> 05:46:09,050
We sort of talked about this at the last meeting, so I won't be labored too much.

3934
05:46:09,150 --> 05:46:10,350
There are statutory requirements.

3935
05:46:10,670 --> 05:46:16,930
The state law encourages general plan elements to address a environmental justice climate adaption while fire hazard and resilience.

3936
05:46:19,610 --> 05:46:24,990
Those, we would look to integrate those into the housing chapter based upon public input and

3937
05:46:24,990 --> 05:46:34,850
in absolute requirements that we've balanced the absolute requirements versus what's the interest of the board and the community that include in that process would go through the general plan process.

3938
05:46:36,370 --> 05:46:37,210
Any questions?

3939
05:46:37,610 --> 05:46:39,830
Just a question.

3940
05:46:40,050 --> 05:46:40,490
Yeah, question.

3941
05:46:41,550 --> 05:46:43,390
Under climate adaptation.

3942
05:46:44,450 --> 05:46:45,530
Is that a clue to the little rise?

3943
05:46:46,970 --> 05:46:48,090
I think it's part of that.

3944
05:46:48,390 --> 05:46:51,330
We can get further clarification on.

3945
05:46:51,330 --> 05:46:58,790
But yeah, it's in, it's maybe an extension of, you know, the climate action plans and things like that that were done as part of the previous general plan, did you know?

3946
05:46:59,730 --> 05:47:11,650
Now, just some aspects of climate change readiness needs to be included. I think we hit a lot of this with our public health and safety element up or chapter update, but we would still want to take a look to make sure we're still today on this.

3947
05:47:11,750 --> 05:47:13,270
When you want to chapter on C little rise.

3948
05:47:15,050 --> 05:47:18,870
the climate action plan includes a aspect of sea level rise.

3949
05:47:19,330 --> 05:47:25,230
And I know some, we've been looking at as a group with some of Misty's projects.

3950
05:47:25,610 --> 05:47:30,930
But the incorporation of, we don't want to project that we have the answer right now.

3951
05:47:31,430 --> 05:47:36,710
And we want to, we would look at whatever the statutory requirements going forward to figure out how we incorporate those requirements.

3952
05:47:36,910 --> 05:47:39,590
And any other requirements that the board wants to go beyond or

3953
05:47:39,590 --> 05:47:42,410
or in tandem with the statutory requirements

3954
05:47:42,410 --> 05:47:43,950
and incorporate it into the next round.

3955
05:47:44,490 --> 05:47:49,170
So if you're saying that do we need to do sea level rise,

3956
05:47:49,670 --> 05:47:53,210
we have to verify that is a must versus a want.

3957
05:47:55,150 --> 05:47:56,790
And if it's something that's of interest to the board.

3958
05:47:56,790 --> 05:47:57,890
Well, it's a need, I'll tell you that.

3959
05:47:58,370 --> 05:47:59,050
It's a need.

3960
05:47:59,290 --> 05:48:00,890
Yes, right.

3961
05:48:01,110 --> 05:48:02,710
And so, you know, from a statutory standpoint,

3962
05:48:03,250 --> 05:48:05,370
these are guidelines that they're like the minimum.

3963
05:48:05,370 --> 05:48:13,890
seven cities five of them are going to be affected. I see level rise. Yes, based on studies. I guess you're hearing it's a want from the board. Sure, even if it ain't a need.

3964
05:48:14,950 --> 05:48:20,430
Yeah, that and the other was misty. Oh, you know saltwater intrusion. Yes.

3965
05:48:21,750 --> 05:48:25,870
Could could occur quicker if if we're over pumping the groundwater.

3966
05:48:44,140 --> 05:48:51,180
water. I'm working on that. I'm working on that.

3967
05:48:54,900 --> 05:48:57,840
I believe it's updated. It would be

3968
05:48:57,840 --> 05:49:03,120
it was done as a regional basis so generally those regional plans what

3969
05:49:03,120 --> 05:49:07,060
once they've been set those are kind of the documents they are until there's

3970
05:49:07,060 --> 05:49:14,620
another need for a regional look at it. I know we did we did the plan. Robyn you

3971
05:49:14,620 --> 05:49:18,260
have an answer. All right. Oh yes.

3972
05:49:20,380 --> 05:49:23,960
Robyn you have a short answer. Yes we saw

3973
05:49:23,960 --> 05:49:27,640
a federal grant to our update because the plan has to be updated every five

3974
05:49:27,640 --> 05:49:29,700
five years we were approved for that we're in the process.

3975
05:49:30,440 --> 05:49:36,280
It'll be done regionally, it is a multigerestictional, local hazard mitigation plan.

3976
05:49:37,160 --> 05:49:42,100
And it included, you're going to get me now, I don't think it was all seven cities.

3977
05:49:42,280 --> 05:49:46,260
But it was the majority of the county including some of the special districts and

3978
05:49:46,260 --> 05:49:48,960
they will all be included in the next update as well.

3979
05:49:48,960 --> 05:49:53,740
The SID, the water agency, I think the city of LAO, water also was included, yeah.

3980
05:49:53,740 --> 05:49:59,420
But I guess what does it show up, you know, here we have this document, it's pretty important.

3981
05:49:59,680 --> 05:50:01,920
They're supposed to be consistent, so-

3982
05:50:01,920 --> 05:50:03,880
Not so much so, where does it show up?

3983
05:50:05,800 --> 05:50:06,880
Should it be part of our-

3984
05:50:06,880 --> 05:50:21,420
As in, is it referenced within the general plan, or is it as they're two separate plans both adopted by the board, so they should be consistent with each other, but one doesn't necessarily supersede.

3985
05:50:21,420 --> 05:50:24,440
Not so much to have a health influence or decision-making.

3986
05:50:27,260 --> 05:50:31,360
Okay, I see, maybe I don't know that I see what you're saying, John.

3987
05:50:31,480 --> 05:50:32,520
But I think-

3988
05:50:32,520 --> 05:50:33,600
For real, I-

3989
05:50:33,600 --> 05:50:35,000
It's been a long day.

3990
05:50:36,040 --> 05:50:36,720
For real.

3991
05:50:37,520 --> 05:50:38,040
Yeah.

3992
05:50:38,500 --> 05:50:41,500
So, I mean, currently in the public health and safety chapter,

3993
05:50:41,760 --> 05:50:44,920
it may incorporate environmental justice climate change and

3994
05:50:44,920 --> 05:50:46,540
resiliency plan in the update.

3995
05:50:47,020 --> 05:50:48,940
The last update of that section in 2024.

3996
05:50:48,940 --> 05:50:56,280
So it would, we would anticipate that it would sit within that chapter, but if there's another chapter, no, I would just want to word it.

3997
05:50:56,660 --> 05:50:58,360
I think currently it sits within that chapter.

3998
05:50:58,540 --> 05:50:58,880
Okay.

3999
05:50:59,220 --> 05:51:02,140
Yeah, I would do a lot of studies.

4000
05:51:02,320 --> 05:51:03,340
We don't implement much.

4001
05:51:04,020 --> 05:51:04,720
Well, we're trying.

4002
05:51:06,000 --> 05:51:08,980
No, I would hope that's one of the focuses here.

4003
05:51:10,580 --> 05:51:18,360
Yes, some of the hazards that are identified that need to be addressed within particularly the climate change, including sea level rise, which is in that SV

4004
05:51:18,360 --> 05:51:32,000
3.79 as a requirement, so those are identified within the hazard mitigation plan as hazards in the county that have to be addressed and therefore addressed within the public health and safety section of the general plan. I think that answered your question.

4005
05:51:32,800 --> 05:51:32,920
Okay.

4006
05:51:40,920 --> 05:51:41,900
We're on direction.

4007
05:51:41,900 --> 05:51:43,180
Oh, yeah.

4008
05:51:43,300 --> 05:51:43,680
That's good.

4009
05:51:43,940 --> 05:51:44,540
Bring it on.

4010
05:51:45,560 --> 05:51:46,560
Thirty-seven.

4011
05:51:47,140 --> 05:51:47,360
Yes.

4012
05:51:48,240 --> 05:51:48,920
Thirty-seven.

4013
05:51:49,060 --> 05:51:49,980
Directions and next steps.

4014
05:51:51,100 --> 05:51:55,800
So, you know, we will continue to work on the request for proposals for the targeted

4015
05:51:55,800 --> 05:51:56,960
update of the general plan.

4016
05:51:57,640 --> 05:51:58,660
We would select it.

4017
05:51:58,860 --> 05:52:01,880
Selected consultants would provide a comprehensive review of existing general plan

4018
05:52:01,880 --> 05:52:03,640
and extent of targeted update.

4019
05:52:04,160 --> 05:52:07,160
And that's the definition of what the RFP would do in the process.

4020
05:52:08,020 --> 05:52:10,820
We would also part of that would be to develop the plan for public outreach.

4021
05:52:11,760 --> 05:52:16,440
As we discussed earlier, we would continue to work with the cities on the county wide summit bringing that back to us.

4022
05:52:17,400 --> 05:52:21,480
Something that Bill, you want to talk maybe a little bit about this, the ad hoc?

4023
05:52:22,020 --> 05:52:28,260
Yeah, I think we're not suggesting you do anything today because we didn't put in the agenda.

4024
05:52:28,640 --> 05:52:37,140
But as we go along, I found that it's good to have an ad hoc committee from the board to kind of help us on certain issues.

4025
05:52:37,140 --> 05:52:42,640
like maybe it's the RFP final language or the discussions with the consultant regarding

4026
05:52:43,380 --> 05:52:49,520
public outreach, having a board ad hoc committee, probably represented by, you know, say the

4027
05:52:49,520 --> 05:52:54,040
west and east side of the county or the urban versus the more rural part. Somehow we get a good

4028
05:52:54,040 --> 05:52:59,260
representation on the boards that we have that sort of feedback loop as we're going into it. So

4029
05:52:59,260 --> 05:53:04,440
we can bring that back in the future, but we wanted to at least throw that out there as a possibility.

4030
05:53:04,440 --> 05:53:09,580
I've seen it done in other jurisdictions as well, it's helpful, that way staff is getting

4031
05:53:09,580 --> 05:53:12,460
good input from your level as well.

4032
05:53:13,120 --> 05:53:14,160
So that's what that's about.

4033
05:53:15,740 --> 05:53:21,040
And I would, I did want to reiterate a comment I made earlier, even though we may be a little

4034
05:53:21,040 --> 05:53:24,320
bit before we actually get a consultant on board, I want to continue to have these kind of discussions

4035
05:53:24,320 --> 05:53:28,380
because these things and the feedback that we're getting here is information that we can feed

4036
05:53:28,380 --> 05:53:32,680
to a consultant team early on so that we're not wasting a bunch of time, a bunch of time

4037
05:53:32,680 --> 05:53:37,380
with a consultant team where they don't have some baseline parameters that are important

4038
05:53:37,380 --> 05:53:41,400
to the board want to make sure they're able to hear those as early as we can in the process.

4039
05:53:41,740 --> 05:53:47,180
So as we suggest here, maybe the next working session of this type, if you guys can go through

4040
05:53:47,180 --> 05:53:51,380
this one more time or two, would be on economic development and really do a harder look at

4041
05:53:51,380 --> 05:53:56,000
economic development and what that might look like in this county, given the parameters that

4042
05:53:56,000 --> 05:54:01,620
we have to work with and really start to look at, you know, what would generate revenue

4043
05:54:01,620 --> 05:54:08,220
in more detail, you know, what things that we think we can do in that context as well

4044
05:54:08,220 --> 05:54:14,180
as talking about how the cooperation with the cities could work as well for a mutual benefit

4045
05:54:14,180 --> 05:54:15,260
of economic development.

4046
05:54:15,460 --> 05:54:19,800
So that's kind of what we're at right now, sort of continue to have a session like this

4047
05:54:19,800 --> 05:54:24,680
periodically and then we'll come back if the board's interested in doing an ad hoc and

4048
05:54:24,680 --> 05:54:28,980
And then we can have those discussions as well as kind of gearing up for the full process.

4049
05:54:29,440 --> 05:54:34,020
But I think like today, from my perspective, this has been really helpful just hearing

4050
05:54:34,020 --> 05:54:36,160
that initial feedback from the board on some of these issues.

4051
05:54:36,820 --> 05:54:40,180
You know, this was challenging to even pull this together because there's a lot, right?

4052
05:54:40,280 --> 05:54:41,280
There's a lot in the general plan.

4053
05:54:41,380 --> 05:54:42,500
We could have touched on a lot of things.

4054
05:54:42,860 --> 05:54:46,180
We kind of tried to go with things that we've heard previously that we thought were important,

4055
05:54:46,320 --> 05:54:49,180
tried to put them in a new context now in the relative of this.

4056
05:54:49,180 --> 05:54:55,940
I do want to thank J.T. who yesterday and the day before as we were going through the

4057
05:54:55,940 --> 05:55:00,960
PowerPoint and he did a lot of the research for a lot of these things and then he had

4058
05:55:00,960 --> 05:55:05,980
to put up with us telling him what to do a lot and criticizing his spelling periodically.

4059
05:55:06,960 --> 05:55:13,420
So I want to appreciate him as well as James and you know because I do know he had the best

4060
05:55:13,420 --> 05:55:18,280
as well today so it was a lot on the plate but I think this turned out to be I think from

4061
05:55:18,280 --> 05:55:22,860
From my perspective, a useful input from the board, and that's what our recommendations are for today.

4062
05:55:25,820 --> 05:55:35,180
And then from, you know, I want to ask about the, I want to make sure I hurt you right before you said about the Mr.

4063
05:55:35,240 --> 05:55:49,820
Emblem in reference to the board ad hoc committee, is it to help to create an RFP, or once the consultant has been hired to work with the consultant.

4064
05:55:49,820 --> 05:55:51,440
I got a little confused.

4065
05:55:51,680 --> 05:55:55,680
Okay, yeah, basically what I'm suggesting is we're developing a draft right now.

4066
05:55:55,860 --> 05:56:00,460
Once it's a little further along we want to be able to run it by something like an

4067
05:56:00,460 --> 05:56:03,400
out-how committee to give us some feedback so we can finalize it.

4068
05:56:03,620 --> 05:56:04,400
A draft RFP?

4069
05:56:04,560 --> 05:56:04,660
Yeah.

4070
05:56:07,740 --> 05:56:13,340
Get involved in some of the early discussions with consultant on public process and other things.

4071
05:56:14,280 --> 05:56:16,780
All right, I just wanted to understand that process.

4072
05:56:16,780 --> 05:56:28,160
and I'm asking because for me being my very first general plan update that I get to participate in,

4073
05:56:28,720 --> 05:56:34,380
I want to, you know, want to make sure we're all getting opportunity to be involved in the process, you know.

4074
05:56:34,620 --> 05:56:42,060
So, I know we're doing it like this, but I really would prefer like a workshop so that we can,

4075
05:56:42,060 --> 05:56:49,120
And I mean, the acts and don't get me wrong, I know this is my job to answer these questions.

4076
05:56:50,220 --> 05:56:56,480
But I would like it, especially, and I'm talking for myself, I'm not gonna put anyone

4077
05:56:56,480 --> 05:57:02,280
else in there, but I'm just gonna assume, I'm guessing, the supervisor James is your first

4078
05:57:02,280 --> 05:57:08,860
general plan, or I mean, you came from Sacramento, I mean from San Francisco, with this kind of

4079
05:57:08,860 --> 05:57:17,720
So this is my very first anywhere in her first with this county and I just feel like

4080
05:57:18,460 --> 05:57:25,800
so that we can be, I want to be fully engaged and that would full understanding of everything

4081
05:57:25,800 --> 05:57:31,300
that we're doing and instead of stopping you all the time and wearing you out with questions like

4082
05:57:31,300 --> 05:57:41,300
that I would like a more in-depth workshop so that I really can grasp the work that we're

4083
05:57:41,300 --> 05:57:48,000
doing because this is going to impact people for 20 years. I don't want to, I mean I know

4084
05:57:48,000 --> 05:58:01,020
we're not perfect but I want to make good decisions and want to make informed decisions and I want

4085
05:58:01,020 --> 05:58:03,780
like workshop is going forward.

4086
05:58:03,900 --> 05:58:07,300
I hope my colleagues will agree to have a workshop.

4087
05:58:08,160 --> 05:58:09,020
I would prefer.

4088
05:58:09,320 --> 05:58:10,300
Well, I'd like to mention earlier.

4089
05:58:10,460 --> 05:58:12,600
I mean, I think once again, if you can tolerate this,

4090
05:58:12,740 --> 05:58:13,740
we could do a number of these.

4091
05:58:13,820 --> 05:58:15,640
Like I said, I'd like to do one on economic development.

4092
05:58:15,800 --> 05:58:17,380
There's other, there's natural resources.

4093
05:58:18,880 --> 05:58:19,200
Yeah.

4094
05:58:19,600 --> 05:58:22,300
Yeah, so we're breaking it back and pieces now.

4095
05:58:22,300 --> 05:58:25,460
This is sort of the broad kind of look.

4096
05:58:25,760 --> 05:58:26,680
And I know it was a lot.

4097
05:58:27,420 --> 05:58:30,100
But I think it was important for sort of putting things

4098
05:58:30,100 --> 05:58:35,900
in the context. So, once again, the ad hoc committee wouldn't necessarily be

4099
05:58:35,900 --> 05:58:40,900
contrary to that. It would just help staff in various key points to get feedback

4100
05:58:40,900 --> 05:58:42,440
as we bring things back to the board.

4101
05:58:42,900 --> 05:58:46,080
Anything that that ad hoc committee was working on is going to come back to this

4102
05:58:46,080 --> 05:58:48,140
full board in a presentation like this.

4103
05:58:50,860 --> 05:58:57,320
So, we'll come back to the side on that. Okay, that's good and all. Thank you.

4104
05:58:57,320 --> 05:59:06,700
Great. Thank you. And then just, you know, just rehash in their recommendations. You receive the presentation of your staff and we've taken a lot of feedback and just want to make sure there's nothing else.

4105
05:59:06,880 --> 05:59:08,660
No, just don't feedback you want to give.

4106
05:59:10,420 --> 05:59:14,360
I don't see any likes, but I got a lot of feedback in my hand right here from the public.

4107
05:59:15,740 --> 05:59:18,640
So you're getting your writing hand limbered up.

4108
05:59:19,040 --> 05:59:21,400
You know, I'm going to rely on the recording for a lot of this.

4109
05:59:21,880 --> 05:59:26,840
Yeah. There you go. All right. So with that, I'll open public comment on this item.

4110
05:59:28,420 --> 05:59:33,100
And the first person I have up to the mic is Ms. Dunn.

4111
05:59:37,610 --> 05:59:42,290
Okay, thank you, Board of Supervisors for hearing our comments.

4112
05:59:43,030 --> 05:59:49,650
I just wanted to reiterate what I heard in the presentation, things that I kind of honed in, that that were good ideas.

4113
05:59:50,370 --> 05:59:53,810
I like the public-private partnership for parks idea.

4114
05:59:54,830 --> 05:59:59,910
I like what Supervisor Vazquez said about protecting certain lands and building that into the general plan.

4115
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:29,300
And developing sites along Interstate 80 for economic development that just makes sense. And we have a really busy corridor there. And also using conservation easements to protect the green belts. I thought that was a great idea. But my main point of coming up here to make a comment is I wanted to ask the board to please consider putting measure T back on the ballot. It's going to expire in 2028. And we only have two election cycles before that.

4116
06:00:29,300 --> 06:00:31,840
So we could potentially do this year, it's too late.

4117
06:00:32,340 --> 06:00:36,800
So next year would be 2026 and 2027 is really cutting it close to the expiration.

4118
06:00:37,540 --> 06:00:45,000
So please consider putting that back on the ballot to keep our ag land protected and

4119
06:00:45,000 --> 06:00:46,860
keep that measure going. Thank you.

4120
06:00:47,540 --> 06:00:50,440
Thank you. Next up is Marilyn Farley.

4121
06:01:01,460 --> 06:01:06,460
Good afternoon, board. A very nice collegial discussion.

4122
06:01:06,460 --> 06:01:11,720
I really enjoyed listening to it and enjoyed listening to the staff report.

4123
06:01:12,440 --> 06:01:21,120
I think this kind of discussion really will help move you forward in thinking about how

4124
06:01:21,120 --> 06:01:24,300
to craft a plan for the next 20 years.

4125
06:01:24,920 --> 06:01:28,520
And as Wanda says, it's daunting because you want to get it right.

4126
06:01:28,520 --> 06:01:36,320
I want to say that Solano has actually a really good record of meeting our housing needs.

4127
06:01:36,940 --> 06:01:41,800
In terms of growth, we outpace both the state and the Bay Area in terms of the number

4128
06:01:41,800 --> 06:01:43,060
of housing units built.

4129
06:01:43,680 --> 06:01:48,160
So when people look at us and say, we're not doing our fair share, that's really not true.

4130
06:01:48,780 --> 06:01:55,340
We have done very well and in fact, we've done too well in a sense because a lot of the

4131
06:01:55,340 --> 06:01:58,520
Barry wants to live here because they can afford to.

4132
06:01:59,480 --> 06:02:04,860
And so our challenge is those families that are at that lower end,

4133
06:02:05,000 --> 06:02:08,720
if you drive around Fairfield for example, you will see many,

4134
06:02:08,720 --> 06:02:14,460
many cars on many, many streets where maybe there used to be one car per

4135
06:02:14,460 --> 06:02:14,800
household.

4136
06:02:15,320 --> 06:02:16,680
Now there might be five.

4137
06:02:17,400 --> 06:02:22,520
And that is an indication to me of overcrowding and

4138
06:02:22,520 --> 06:02:27,360
and that people in the lower income levels of our community are really struggling.

4139
06:02:28,280 --> 06:02:36,120
I think our former back of Hill Council member, Nolan Sullivan, was really a big advocate

4140
06:02:36,610 --> 06:02:41,860
of small houses for young families who were trying to get their foot in the door.

4141
06:02:42,860 --> 06:02:49,760
And I would really like to see the county collaborate with the cities to craft policies like

4142
06:02:49,760 --> 06:02:58,420
like that, that address that lower income segment of the population. And I have at least

4143
06:02:58,420 --> 06:03:05,820
one idea about how you might go about doing that. Your housing authority can issue bonds.

4144
06:03:06,740 --> 06:03:14,280
And if you were to issue bonds for all the cities and the county that would subsidize some

4145
06:03:14,280 --> 06:03:19,380
Some of the housing that's getting built, you could perhaps lower the cost, and you could

4146
06:03:19,380 --> 06:03:25,400
perhaps put on it a requirement that there's priority to people who have been residents

4147
06:03:25,400 --> 06:03:28,160
of Solano County for some time period.

4148
06:03:28,480 --> 06:03:34,020
That might be a way to stimulate some of the kind of housing that we need, and you would

4149
06:03:34,020 --> 06:03:40,400
get an efficiency of scale by doing it that way, by not having each individual housing authority

4150
06:03:40,400 --> 06:03:44,640
in the cities having to do it, but the county itself could do it.

4151
06:03:45,400 --> 06:03:52,900
And if I have time left quickly, food security, Monica's issue, that's a big issue for me.

4152
06:03:53,520 --> 06:04:00,940
I think that looking at climate change, we should really be looking at our capacity to produce food for the world.

4153
06:04:01,480 --> 06:04:09,060
Given climate change and how we can partner with UC Davis, for example,

4154
06:04:09,060 --> 06:04:13,120
with the Farm Bureau, with our local farmers to make that happy.

4155
06:04:13,960 --> 06:04:18,300
And then quickly, timing of the renewal of Major T.

4156
06:04:18,740 --> 06:04:19,460
That's a big issue.

4157
06:04:19,740 --> 06:04:22,360
I didn't hear a discussion of that, but I did come in late.

4158
06:04:22,680 --> 06:04:23,000
Thank you.

4159
06:04:23,580 --> 06:04:24,600
Thank you, ma'am.

4160
06:04:24,940 --> 06:04:27,340
Next up is the former supervisor, Crom.

4161
06:04:38,340 --> 06:04:38,540
Thanks.

4162
06:04:39,040 --> 06:04:43,480
Doing Crom City Fairfield, early growth committee, as you all know.

4163
06:04:44,360 --> 06:04:47,440
Like Marilyn said, I thought you had a very good discussion today,

4164
06:04:47,440 --> 06:04:49,280
and I think you'll find it fruitful.

4165
06:04:49,960 --> 06:04:50,860
So I had a couple of notes.

4166
06:04:51,340 --> 06:04:54,200
One about the suggestion for an ad hoc committee.

4167
06:04:54,740 --> 06:04:57,740
I mean, sitting with the Cliff Howard sitting just in front of me.

4168
06:04:58,260 --> 06:05:00,960
It made me think that a couple of other voices might be good

4169
06:05:00,960 --> 06:05:03,480
on that ad hoc committee to just get rapid feedback.

4170
06:05:04,100 --> 06:05:06,900
Farm Bureau, Cliff, environmental community,

4171
06:05:07,160 --> 06:05:08,480
somebody from the economic community.

4172
06:05:08,520 --> 06:05:09,660
It may be one city rep,

4173
06:05:10,160 --> 06:05:12,100
just to get a little bit of a broader base

4174
06:05:12,100 --> 06:05:13,520
than just the county focus.

4175
06:05:14,200 --> 06:05:16,140
So just a thought, just a suggestion.

4176
06:05:17,300 --> 06:05:25,940
The discussion about the county looking at particularly nodes along I-80 corridor and looking to bring in more revenue for the county.

4177
06:05:26,320 --> 06:05:34,120
It may be think about what the county is looking at doing when cities talk about wanting to annex having a property tax sharing agreement.

4178
06:05:34,660 --> 06:05:44,240
It strikes me that the combination of TOT income, property tax income, sales tax income, everybody's looking to get their piece of the pie.

4179
06:05:44,240 --> 06:05:47,500
And I mean, it's in many ways a zero-sum game.

4180
06:05:47,900 --> 06:05:50,360
When you have a zero-sum game, everybody wants their peace,

4181
06:05:50,800 --> 06:05:53,680
and begrudgingly gives up a peace to somebody else.

4182
06:05:54,280 --> 06:05:56,080
But it strikes me that something like the tax,

4183
06:05:56,080 --> 06:05:57,720
the property tax sharing agreement,

4184
06:05:58,240 --> 06:06:00,800
might be broadened to include sales tax and TOT,

4185
06:06:01,180 --> 06:06:03,440
and then bringing the cities and the county together

4186
06:06:03,440 --> 06:06:06,340
to figure out, how do we do this in a balanced way

4187
06:06:06,340 --> 06:06:09,980
that it may be pie in the sky hope

4188
06:06:09,980 --> 06:06:12,800
to find a way to benefit all entities?

4189
06:06:12,800 --> 06:06:19,860
and not battle for you know I mean if I'm if I'm the city of Dixon for example and I'm seeing the county looking at

4190
06:06:20,360 --> 06:06:26,060
Trying to do development at the transportation nodes on the north side of 80. I'm going to be a little tect off

4191
06:06:26,060 --> 06:06:29,360
I'm going to be wanting to say that's my let that's right next to me

4192
06:06:29,360 --> 06:06:32,760
I want that and it's still in the county to the county is going to want it so

4193
06:06:33,840 --> 06:06:41,580
Coming to coming to balance negotiations of agreement. I think it's pretty much always a difficult thing to do and like Sarah has said

4194
06:06:41,580 --> 06:06:43,360
and Maryland has said, we need tea renewed

4195
06:06:43,360 --> 06:06:46,320
and we need to make sure we don't let tea slide by

4196
06:06:46,880 --> 06:06:48,140
or all hell could break loose.

4197
06:06:48,340 --> 06:06:50,940
So let's find a way to make sure we can get that done.

4198
06:06:51,900 --> 06:06:53,340
And I'm going to assume the general plan's

4199
06:06:53,340 --> 06:06:54,880
going to take longer than anticipated,

4200
06:06:55,260 --> 06:06:57,120
because I've been through a few of these

4201
06:06:57,120 --> 06:07:00,380
and they always do, they never get done on time.

4202
06:07:00,780 --> 06:07:01,620
So thanks.

4203
06:07:02,580 --> 06:07:03,340
Thank you, sir.

4204
06:07:04,820 --> 06:07:05,540
Mr. Burman.

4205
06:07:15,560 --> 06:07:16,220
Thank you.

4206
06:07:16,820 --> 06:07:18,340
Again, a good discussion.

4207
06:07:18,340 --> 06:07:22,560
I don't want to focus on two issues here quickly.

4208
06:07:23,220 --> 06:07:28,900
There's been a couple of mentions already about the need to renew, measure T.

4209
06:07:29,460 --> 06:07:30,980
And I think there is commitment here.

4210
06:07:32,120 --> 06:07:38,380
One of my concerns is that the last time to put it on the ballot would be November of 2021.

4211
06:07:39,360 --> 06:07:42,920
The deadline to put that on your back it up.

4212
06:07:42,920 --> 06:07:46,560
It's probably July, things always take longer.

4213
06:07:46,560 --> 06:07:59,300
So I think the board should consider a short-term extension of measure T in case we don't get it on to the we're not done in time to get it on to the

4214
06:07:59,300 --> 06:08:13,180
2028 ballot. It's my understanding the board without making any changes to the measure could provide a short term maybe a three-year extension of measure T with no changes.

4215
06:08:14,260 --> 06:08:22,020
Since there would be no changes, there would be no, I don't think there would be any requirements for the California Environmental Quality Act or anything like that.

4216
06:08:22,520 --> 06:08:23,840
I think it's within your jurisdiction.

4217
06:08:24,260 --> 06:08:27,220
So you ought to look at that type of short term extension.

4218
06:08:28,420 --> 06:08:31,460
The other issue is the growth management issue.

4219
06:08:31,940 --> 06:08:35,860
We talked a lot today about how much growth we're looking at.

4220
06:08:35,860 --> 06:08:42,080
I mean, clearly the Sloaner County, we knew years ago,

4221
06:08:42,660 --> 06:08:48,480
the Sloaner County we knew today is not the Sloaner County we're going to see in the future.

4222
06:08:49,140 --> 06:08:51,020
We know the development pressures.

4223
06:08:51,660 --> 06:08:58,000
City of Dixon is working on an EIR that would change designations for 8,000 acres.

4224
06:08:58,560 --> 06:09:03,520
They had the harvest project proposal, which is 9,000 housing units.

4225
06:09:03,520 --> 06:09:12,940
We know about Susan and City, we know about California forever potential population of 400,000.

4226
06:09:13,580 --> 06:09:24,880
So I do think we need to study and evaluate mechanisms to establish some type of county-wide growth management.

4227
06:09:25,360 --> 06:09:27,020
It's going to be difficult.

4228
06:09:27,460 --> 06:09:33,340
And I think as the chairman has already said, basically development within the cities is up to

4229
06:09:33,340 --> 06:09:41,020
the cities, but we need to look at that. And I think to do that, obviously it's not

4230
06:09:41,020 --> 06:09:47,500
just the county, it's Lafgo, local agency formation commission, Solano County Transportation

4231
06:09:47,500 --> 06:09:55,020
Authority, the water agencies, the airport land use commission. So again, I urge you to

4232
06:09:55,020 --> 06:10:00,600
kind of broaden out your view in terms of what we can do in terms of growth management.

4233
06:10:00,600 --> 06:10:10,000
And a center is when the going through the slides there was mention it reminded me of

4234
06:10:10,000 --> 06:10:11,760
the Tri-City and County plan.

4235
06:10:12,380 --> 06:10:20,460
That was a plan that was put together, Solano County, Benesha, Fairfield, Vallejo, protect

4236
06:10:20,460 --> 06:10:24,800
the open space between those four, those three communities in the county.

4237
06:10:25,280 --> 06:10:26,420
That has worked.

4238
06:10:26,700 --> 06:10:29,360
That's been, see, Matt's gone already here.

4239
06:10:29,360 --> 06:10:34,780
But I think we did that about 20 years ago, and I don't think there's been one

4240
06:10:34,780 --> 06:10:39,680
incursion into that area that was set aside in that tri-city area.

4241
06:10:40,220 --> 06:10:41,960
So it is possible to do that.

4242
06:10:42,460 --> 06:10:46,200
And let me just wrap up one thing that's close and

4243
06:10:46,200 --> 06:10:51,920
due to my heart, discussion of policy E4 talks about parks and open space.

4244
06:10:52,610 --> 06:10:56,360
There was no mention of the need for a countywide park district.

4245
06:10:56,940 --> 06:11:01,980
and I have promised that I'm not going away any place until we get that county

4246
06:11:01,980 --> 06:11:06,400
wide park district. All right, let's move on it. Thank you.

4247
06:11:08,900 --> 06:11:09,760
Mayor Patten.

4248
06:11:19,570 --> 06:11:24,530
Thank you very much, Chair. And this is 19th celebration. And I'm

4249
06:11:24,530 --> 06:11:30,710
happy to be here. It was a good presentation. I, I, uh, itchy with the fact that I've

4250
06:11:30,710 --> 06:11:34,210
done a lot of general plans and I would love to participate in some future

4251
06:11:34,210 --> 06:11:39,070
things but today I'm here to as vice chair of the Sacramento San

4252
06:11:39,070 --> 06:11:43,590
Rican Rivers Delta National Heritage Area and there is a short

4253
06:11:43,590 --> 06:11:49,150
away of saying it as the vice chair for the advisory committee because I'm

4254
06:11:49,150 --> 06:11:53,910
asking you that you incorporate the map that has been certified by the department

4255
06:11:53,910 --> 06:11:58,770
of interior in the National Park Service that includes the parts of Salano County.

4256
06:11:59,690 --> 06:12:02,570
This, so what is a national heritage area?

4257
06:12:02,930 --> 06:12:11,130
A, it's the first one in California, and there are 62 in the United States, Congress

4258
06:12:11,130 --> 06:12:18,150
member Garamende helped marshal this through, took about 11 years, I believe, there is funding

4259
06:12:18,150 --> 06:12:25,970
that comes with that, tier one, it's 150,000 for us and tier two, it will be 500,000, and

4260
06:12:25,970 --> 06:12:28,630
And we are staffed by the Delta Protection Commission.

4261
06:12:28,930 --> 06:12:32,310
It's a little unique, a lot of the heritage areas don't have that.

4262
06:12:32,650 --> 06:12:36,810
We have a great state of California participating in this heritage area.

4263
06:12:37,350 --> 06:12:38,390
And so what does it do?

4264
06:12:39,950 --> 06:12:44,930
It's like a national park, only without ownership and without regulations.

4265
06:12:45,790 --> 06:12:51,650
And so when you are designated as a national heritage area, you are on a national map and

4266
06:12:51,650 --> 06:12:56,410
And people actually make their vacation plans and their visiting plans around the fact

4267
06:12:56,410 --> 06:13:01,230
that they can go get other passports stamped in a national heritage area.

4268
06:13:02,190 --> 06:13:06,290
We are prime for attracting that kind of visiting.

4269
06:13:06,830 --> 06:13:10,110
That to me is the economic development of the future.

4270
06:13:10,590 --> 06:13:16,350
If you think about the tourism and the money that comes in with that, think about Europe,

4271
06:13:18,270 --> 06:13:21,750
overcrowded, and think about our opportunities here in California.

4272
06:13:22,530 --> 06:13:27,110
As I said, we're pretty unique, and in fact, as we aren't pretty unique, we are unique.

4273
06:13:27,370 --> 06:13:33,390
We have the most diverse topography, the greatest number of soils, the most interesting

4274
06:13:33,390 --> 06:13:35,110
water and a Mediterranean climate.

4275
06:13:35,750 --> 06:13:38,410
So these are the kinds of things that we celebrate.

4276
06:13:38,830 --> 06:13:44,050
In our heritage area, we are celebrating through a management plan, which is also certified

4277
06:13:44,050 --> 06:13:47,710
and approved by the Department of Interior, National Park Service,

4278
06:13:48,210 --> 06:13:51,770
it are several goals, and they include culture, history,

4279
06:13:52,410 --> 06:13:57,990
natural resources, tourism, and visiting, and I haven't memorized all of them.

4280
06:13:59,410 --> 06:14:02,450
So, it boils down to being a partnership

4281
06:14:03,270 --> 06:14:07,950
for us to be successful. We have to partner with local government, businesses,

4282
06:14:08,750 --> 06:14:13,430
wineries if you will, libraries, and we're in the process of doing that.

4283
06:14:14,350 --> 06:14:17,810
The one, make sure I hit all the things.

4284
06:14:18,090 --> 06:14:24,790
So, for instance, with the Delta Protection Commission staff as supporting us with,

4285
06:14:25,130 --> 06:14:31,670
they also bring in the state parks, our state parks, recreation, other agencies,

4286
06:14:32,090 --> 06:14:35,450
other agencies, I used to put the gabbled down.

4287
06:14:37,350 --> 06:14:41,410
I'm trying to make sure all the public gets heard with everything you need to say about

4288
06:14:41,410 --> 06:14:42,190
the general plan.

4289
06:14:42,410 --> 06:14:45,070
I don't want anybody to be able to say they didn't have their say.

4290
06:14:45,630 --> 06:14:45,770
Right.

4291
06:14:46,290 --> 06:14:52,650
So, I would be happy to make a presentation in the future of maybe a workshop or maybe you

4292
06:14:52,650 --> 06:14:59,850
could establish a steering committee that as John Vasquez was talking about earlier, where

4293
06:14:59,850 --> 06:14:59,970
Thank you very much.

4294
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:09,640
However you would like that presentation, just let me know either I or the staff and the Delta Protection Commission can do that. Thank you. Thank you. President Howard, sir.

4295
06:15:11,980 --> 06:15:12,520
You're welcome.

4296
06:15:19,990 --> 06:15:36,330
Hello, Cliff Howard, Salana County Farm Bureau. Thank you for allowing us to be here and speak. Thank you for the great discussion. I was not planning to be here, but my wife tells me what to do. So she said get down there.

4297
06:15:36,330 --> 06:15:39,070
And she said they're having a pretty big discussion.

4298
06:15:39,250 --> 06:15:47,590
I didn't realize having not seen the program beforehand that there was going to be so much ag talked about.

4299
06:15:47,730 --> 06:15:54,850
So I'm really proud and happy that you guys have such an ag focus on all of these issues.

4300
06:15:55,770 --> 06:16:02,010
I don't really have a lot to say against anything other than you know talk about all the time.

4301
06:16:02,010 --> 06:16:08,950
Please reach out, I don't know that I should be volunteering for any more things to do, but obviously like

4302
06:16:09,490 --> 06:16:11,990
with so much focus on Ag and

4303
06:16:11,990 --> 06:16:17,270
Representing such a large portion of the Ag members of this community. It's important that we're here

4304
06:16:17,270 --> 06:16:21,910
It's important that you guys understand what the future of Ag looks like

4305
06:16:22,410 --> 06:16:31,250
Obviously that's going to change quite a bit as family farms switch hands and property taxes increase at time of death and all of these things

4306
06:16:31,250 --> 06:16:35,770
We're going to have to focus on to keep AG in AG as we say.

4307
06:16:36,250 --> 06:16:43,910
One of the things that's a little, a lot scary is the potential sewer into Sassoon Valley.

4308
06:16:44,170 --> 06:16:48,790
I think that the property tax increases a little daunting to a lot of farmers.

4309
06:16:49,070 --> 06:16:58,810
So I think a little back of the napkin math could get us in a general range of what that's potentially to look at if property increases and

4310
06:16:58,810 --> 06:17:04,830
and how much money that would cost the county, connection fees, and then how would you even measure that?

4311
06:17:05,030 --> 06:17:13,870
Does that mean we have to hook up well monitors and things like this now to make sure that you can measure the water actually going in there?

4312
06:17:14,710 --> 06:17:25,830
I think it's a huge discussion that obviously sewer generally speaks to neighborhoods and more growth.

4313
06:17:25,830 --> 06:17:30,410
So, understanding all of that, I think that also understanding what

4314
06:17:31,830 --> 06:17:35,730
Sassoon Valley vendors and growers is looking at as what a

4315
06:17:35,730 --> 06:17:41,290
hotel or a resort would look like up there and understanding their needs and if that could happen on

4316
06:17:41,830 --> 06:17:45,970
on their own land and a package plant would be good.

4317
06:17:47,570 --> 06:17:55,350
When you're making these decisions obviously they're more than just words on paper and they affect real humans so

4318
06:17:55,830 --> 06:18:03,290
Obviously, always take that into account and another thing that might be discussed for

4319
06:18:03,290 --> 06:18:08,450
TOT options is short-term vacation rentals on Williams and act lands, which is currently

4320
06:18:08,450 --> 06:18:14,210
not allowed, so that might be able to open up some TOT dollars pretty quickly if you just

4321
06:18:14,210 --> 06:18:14,950
allowed that.

4322
06:18:16,370 --> 06:18:21,510
And again, happy to be here to be a part of whatever conversations you guys would like

4323
06:18:21,510 --> 06:18:24,870
I'd like to have, as always, we keep it pretty civil.

4324
06:18:25,930 --> 06:18:26,590
Thank you.

4325
06:18:26,870 --> 06:18:27,390
Thank you.

4326
06:18:27,650 --> 06:18:29,050
And then do we have any callers online, man?

4327
06:18:30,130 --> 06:18:31,310
No callers online, all right.

4328
06:18:31,950 --> 06:18:33,330
So we closed public comment.

4329
06:18:34,070 --> 06:18:34,730
We made it through.

4330
06:18:35,710 --> 06:18:38,090
Thank you both very much for that presentation.

4331
06:18:38,090 --> 06:18:39,210
That was very informative.

4332
06:18:39,750 --> 06:18:40,810
I'm appreciative of that.

4333
06:18:40,930 --> 06:18:41,750
And thank you to the board.

4334
06:18:42,270 --> 06:18:45,470
Everybody was very participating, even as the public pointed out,

4335
06:18:45,530 --> 06:18:46,830
very collegial about all of that.

4336
06:18:47,010 --> 06:18:47,650
So thank you.

4337
06:18:49,670 --> 06:18:53,230
With that, that brings us to the end of our agenda.

4338
06:18:55,910 --> 06:19:00,250
So before we adjourn, I'm going to ask for board comments.

4339
06:19:01,830 --> 06:19:03,350
Mr. Reser, James, do you have any?

4340
06:19:04,750 --> 06:19:12,090
Yes, there is going to be a community listening session tomorrow in North

4341
06:19:12,090 --> 06:19:15,930
Vallejo due to the ongoing shootings and shots fired.

4342
06:19:15,930 --> 06:19:21,550
our gun violence in the area, the lack of response, and also the two recent

4343
06:19:21,550 --> 06:19:23,250
homicides that occurred last Monday.

4344
06:19:24,090 --> 06:19:28,410
And secondly, I do want to close the meeting in honor of one of the victims,

4345
06:19:28,750 --> 06:19:32,870
Sean White, who tragically lost his life to gun violence last Monday.

4346
06:19:33,470 --> 06:19:37,590
He was born and raised in Vallejo, a father of three, a union instruction worker,

4347
06:19:37,990 --> 06:19:42,130
and a dedicated volunteer with one of the local nonprofits.

4348
06:19:42,130 --> 06:19:45,370
Profits, so may his memory be a blessing and thank you.

4349
06:19:51,640 --> 06:19:57,580
I'd like to adjourn in memory of Honoree Marquell Hatton.

4350
06:19:57,740 --> 06:20:04,980
I've never always got her name right, but she died on July 31st.

4351
06:20:04,980 --> 06:20:08,340
She's going to be honored in the Amprice Theater in October.

4352
06:20:08,540 --> 06:20:10,460
And when I get that date, I'll put it in my newsletter.

4353
06:20:10,820 --> 06:20:14,180
So people who would like to come will have a feel for that.

4354
06:20:15,440 --> 06:20:22,040
She was many things, strong, brilliant, kind, fearless, but above all was unforgettable.

4355
06:20:22,960 --> 06:20:28,960
And that came from Josette Lacey, and if you might remember her, she worked for Aaron

4356
06:20:28,960 --> 06:20:29,460
Hanigan.

4357
06:20:30,140 --> 06:20:33,300
So she was a force of nature with a heart of gold.

4358
06:20:34,520 --> 06:20:39,340
And I do have several pictures here, if you're interested, after the board meeting to come

4359
06:20:39,340 --> 06:20:39,880
and watch.

4360
06:20:40,840 --> 06:20:53,380
If you would like to sign the paper, let me know, we'll make sure we add your name and we'll pass it around through my aid for everybody to sign and we'll make sure that our family gets the adjournment.

4361
06:20:53,980 --> 06:20:54,660
So thank you.

4362
06:20:57,280 --> 06:21:06,340
Yes, I'd like to just announce that on October 2nd in the evening when I say 530 I'll be

4363
06:21:06,340 --> 06:21:18,860
hosting town hall meeting to have a discussion about the feasibility study for the sewer feasibility

4364
06:21:18,860 --> 06:21:27,680
study about the system valley. So invitations will be going out and it will be also in my

4365
06:21:27,680 --> 06:21:36,560
newsletters, you know, it will be at the CEC by here building. Am I pointing the right

4366
06:21:36,560 --> 06:21:44,280
direction that way? Okay, it'll be there. So please, if you're not getting my newsletter,

4367
06:21:44,280 --> 06:21:49,420
please sign up because it will list not only my first town hall but all my community meetings

4368
06:21:49,420 --> 06:21:56,220
that I'll be hosting as well. I think yeah and that's all I wanted to share at this time

4369
06:21:56,220 --> 06:22:03,340
from District 3 thank you. Thank you and I don't have anything to share so I will adjourn

4370
06:22:03,340 --> 06:22:07,860
this meeting to the next Board of Supervisors meeting on September 9th at 9 a.m. in these

4371
06:22:07,860 --> 06:22:11,580
chambers. Thanks for sticking. It was a long waiting

4372
06:22:35,780 --> 06:22:36,860
for others to join.