1 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:30,230 All 2 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,560 right, welcome everybody to the January 3 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,159 28th regular council meeting for the 4 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:36,720 city of Courtney. And I'd like to start 5 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,560 by respectfully acknowledging that the 6 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,840 land on which we're gathered is the 7 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,520 unseated territory of the Komox First 8 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,320 Nation, the traditional keepers of this 9 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:47,360 land. Um, we don't have any late items, 10 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,840 but we'll move into adoption of minutes. 11 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,200 uh from January 14th. 12 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,350 >> All right, it's been [laughter] Thanks, 13 00:01:55,350 --> 00:01:55,360 » All right, it's been [laughter] Thanks, 14 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Council Morn. Um are there any errors or 15 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,840 omissions? 16 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,719 Seeing none, we'll accept the minutes 17 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:04,640 unanimously and we'll move into 18 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,040 presentations. Um and I don't see 19 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Inspector Mercer here. So, what we'll do 20 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,039 is we'll just bear the agenda and um I 21 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:12,720 think and when Inspector Mercer gets 22 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 here, we can uh pop back to that and 23 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,239 we'll move on to item 5.1 corporate 24 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:22,400 facility energy management plan. 25 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,520 That's all right. And I'll pass it over 26 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,239 to Mr. Garbet. Thank you. uh through the 27 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:29,200 merit council. Um Janine Tazioli will 28 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,680 provide an overview of uh the corporate 29 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,599 facility energy management plan report 30 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:38,959 and we have uh our director of uh um 31 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:41,360 engineering and environmental uh 32 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,080 division online as well as a consultant, 33 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,120 Miss Tazuli. 34 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,630 >> Thanks Mr. Garbett. Um welcome mayor and 35 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:50,640 » Thanks Mr. Garbett. Um welcome mayor and 36 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,319 council. I'm looking forward to 37 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:54,400 presenting our corporate facility energy 38 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,840 management plan. Um this plan represents 39 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,440 more than a year of work with our 40 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,519 consultant from Prism Engineering um 41 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:04,000 who's joining us virtually and we'll be 42 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,879 talking about uh what this what this 43 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:08,640 plan means for our buildings and the 44 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:12,309 path forward. 45 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,280 So our objective is modern and efficient 46 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,000 facilities and reducing greenhouse gas 47 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,800 emissions. So this plan identifies the 48 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,360 specific upgrades and retrofits required 49 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 to achieve those greenhouse gas 50 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,680 reduction targets required by the 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,760 provincial climate change accountability 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,879 act in buildings owned by the city. The 53 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:36,000 pie chart shows a breakdown of our 54 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 greenhouse gas emissions portfolio 55 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,879 across all aspects of the city. So this 56 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:44,400 plan addresses the natural gas used in 57 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,560 buildings as well as the electricity 58 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,560 used in buildings which collectively 59 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,840 represent 43% of our emissions profile. 60 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 In addition to looking at what specific 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,640 projects to do, part of this project 62 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,040 looked at how to be successful with the 63 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,400 implementation. And these are some key 64 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,280 uh measures that came through. So, we 65 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,640 want to focus on the buildings that 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,799 consume the most natural gas. That will 67 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:13,519 give us the largest reductions. We want 68 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:15,920 to align our equipment replacements with 69 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,560 the end of life of equipment. 70 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,440 We'll work with BC Hydro um to ensure 71 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,199 that there's enough electricity to 72 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:25,680 supply our facilities at the time that 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,160 we need it. Also working to align with 74 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,040 their funding programs. We'll consult 75 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,800 building occupants to ensure that we're 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,960 accounting for their comfort and the use 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,280 of the building. We'll seek external 78 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,600 grants and funding and we'll track our 79 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,680 progress. Uh we'll make sure that we 80 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,680 have systems in place to monitor and 81 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,919 measure the performance of the buildings 82 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,919 and the utility consumption. 83 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:52,639 So the scope of this project 84 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:54,880 included our primary facilities and our 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,040 smaller facilities. The primary 86 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,560 facilities 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 uh represent 90% of our emissions 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,919 profile and for those ones we've done a 89 00:05:03,919 --> 00:05:05,919 detailed ashray level 2 energy 90 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:08,639 assessment. This portion of the project 91 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:10,639 was funded by FCM and the green 92 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:12,400 municipal fund and their community 93 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,199 building retrofit initiative and the 94 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:19,039 final report is attached in u attachment 95 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:23,680 2. Our smaller facilities are represent 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,639 only 18% of our emissions. We did a 97 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,160 higher level assessment because these 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,320 are more simple buildings with less 99 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,600 moving parts. And that final report is 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,000 included in attachment 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,639 four. 102 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,960 So this is a summary of our top 103 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,960 emitters. The Lewis Center um was among 104 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,360 the highest followed by the operations 105 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,320 center, native sons hall, memorial pool, 106 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,199 fire hall, library and art gallery. The 107 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:56,160 proportion of the space on the graph 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,840 represents the proportion of the 109 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:03,600 emissions. So as we had reviewed um 90% 110 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,000 the green and the blue are covered by 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,240 our major facilities and that green 112 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,479 square represents a collection of our 113 00:06:10,479 --> 00:06:12,319 smaller facilities which include lift 114 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:14,560 stations, street lighting, washroom 115 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,230 buildings etc. 116 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,520 So our approach is a series of retrofits 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,280 and upgrade projects planned from 2026 118 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:27,120 to 2050. 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,919 The general approach will be to operate 120 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:32,319 optimize the operation of our existing 121 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:35,680 equipment. Upgrading equipment at the 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,840 end of life for facilities that are 123 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,400 currently being used. So in cases where 124 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,199 facilities may be retired or are at the 125 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:45,120 end of their lifespan, we will not be 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,560 upgrading the equipment in those 127 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,199 facilities. We'll replace the existing 128 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:51,919 equipment with high efficiency electric 129 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:54,400 options. And then after that's complete, 130 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,759 we'll consider on-site renewable energy. 131 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:01,039 And this approach really recalls a 132 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:04,080 phased approach with the first phase is 133 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,199 um focusing on 134 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:09,840 uh reducing our gas use, switching to 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,919 electric options, making our electric 136 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:13,919 options more efficient, and then looking 137 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:17,039 at on-site generation to further reduce 138 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:20,080 our um greenhouse gas reductions and 139 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,639 build resilience for the city. So we um 140 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:34,710 are resilient against power outages. 141 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,759 So this is a summary of what the 142 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,960 proposed plan um means as far as 143 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,960 greenhouse gas reductions across our 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,000 portfolio. So in a business as usual 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,080 case, if we were to not proceed with 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,319 this plan and simply replace equipment 147 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:53,759 at end of life with no consideration for 148 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,800 its uh consumption of gas or its 149 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,800 efficiency, we would have some moderate 150 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,520 gains just from um equipment becoming 151 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,720 more efficient. However, the most gains 152 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,120 really come with the implementation of 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,080 this plan where we are considering what 154 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 what reduces our emissions most and and 155 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,720 planning for things that are end of life 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,879 and and completing those projects in a 157 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:23,840 strategic way. You'll also notice on 158 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,160 this graph there are two emission 159 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,479 targets. These are provincial emission 160 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:30,639 targets that are outlined in the climate 161 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,279 change accountability act. And so it is 162 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:36,000 our goal and direction we've received 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,039 from council so far to prepare a plan to 164 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,200 meet those reduction targets. And we can 165 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,320 see the timeline um for when we might 166 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,200 expect those reductions on this graph. I 167 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,240 will note that this is all modeled and 168 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,320 our actual performance will be based 169 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,519 will be measured as we go um once we 170 00:08:55,519 --> 00:09:00,389 complete some of those upgrade projects. 171 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:02,640 So this is a summary of the financial 172 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,160 implications. 173 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,279 The costs here are the capital costs to 174 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:10,240 complete the projects. Also noted are 175 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,200 the base case costs for each year. And 176 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,320 the base case represents that 177 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,959 cost for equipment that is at the end of 178 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:21,519 life and if we were to just replace it 179 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,240 um with no consideration for greenhouse 180 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,399 gas reductions, that's the cost that we 181 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,240 would incur. 182 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 So um this project has been grant funded 183 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,240 so far with no tax impacts. There are a 184 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,680 number of grant funding streams 185 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,880 available for implementation phases. We 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,160 also have some reserve funds available 187 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,480 um that must be spent on greenhouse gas 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,600 reduction initiatives through our LGCAP 189 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,519 local government climate action plan 190 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:52,480 funds. And these amounts were provided 191 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,600 in the five-year financial plan and 2026 192 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:01,590 budget for council consideration. 193 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,519 So with that um we have a couple of 194 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:05,440 resolutions for consideration and I'm 195 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,990 happy to take any questions. 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Excellent. Thank you very much for uh 197 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,440 the presentation. It's good to see 198 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,360 things meen and Wong and uh uh it's uh 199 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,959 really like the um diagram just kind of 200 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:22,640 showing where most of the energy is 201 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,279 coming from uh kind of in in uh in uh 202 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:26,880 comparison with the other buildings. Uh 203 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,320 with that I'll pass it over to councelor 204 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,839 I don't think the mouse is working. 205 00:10:31,839 --> 00:10:33,440 Councelor Cole Hamilton. 206 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,949 >> Yeah, thanks Marin. Thanks so much for 207 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:34,959 » Yeah, thanks Marin. Thanks so much for 208 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:38,000 the report Janine. Um this is important 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,360 work and it's good to see that we're 210 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,200 doing it in a very cost-effective way. I 211 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,880 appreciate it seeing that all of the 212 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,839 studies so far have all been um produced 213 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:49,040 by grant funding and uh the LGCAP 214 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,160 funding obviously comes from the 215 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 province for and is required to be spent 216 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,160 on exactly this kind of work. Um 217 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,880 so I guess my my question was uh just to 218 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,839 dig a bit deeper on the funding aspect. 219 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:04,959 Um it strikes me that the the base case 220 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:06,800 that you spoke of which is replacing 221 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 like with like if we just uh were going 222 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,560 to do business as usual um that that 223 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:16,079 would be covered by the uh by the SIP. 224 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:18,399 Um so and it would make sense that it 225 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,800 would be covered by the SIP according in 226 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,440 my by my way of thinking it's replacing 227 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 existing infrastructure and the increase 228 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,320 in level of service um would be covered 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,399 would make sense to be covered by LGCAP 230 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:36,480 and I'm wondering if um if that is a a 231 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,680 way of allocating the uh the 232 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:41,839 expenditures required to to implement 233 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:44,720 this. um if you had any thoughts on the 234 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,160 way it's currently structured which you 235 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,640 think is all LGCAP versus using the SIP 236 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,920 to uh cover replacement of existing 237 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,269 infrastructure. 238 00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:57,839 » Uh thanks councelor Cole Hamilton. I'm 239 00:11:57,839 --> 00:11:59,680 able to provide some technical 240 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:02,560 background around those base cases. So 241 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:04,800 because there is a basease cost, I think 242 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,839 that proportion is eligible for funding 243 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:10,639 through the SIP which is the sustainable 244 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,600 infrastructure program. Um but using 245 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,160 that fund would be a choice made by 246 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,000 council and um our financial officer. So 247 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,160 I think that perhaps that could be a 248 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,920 budget conversation, but maybe I'll 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,240 defer to Mr. Garbett to weigh in. 250 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,230 >> Uh thank you through the mayor. Um when 251 00:12:30,230 --> 00:12:30,240 » Uh thank you through the mayor. Um when 252 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,240 we presented the financial uh plan, 253 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,680 capital projects uh were identified uh 254 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,320 ranging from linear to vertical assets. 255 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Some of them are funded by the SIP funds 256 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,680 and it would be um given the amount of 257 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:52,389 uh asset management we need to do. um 258 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:58,470 the recommendations a variety of sources 259 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,560 to to the and these uh building 260 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:04,480 improvements. And so at at this point u 261 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,120 u our finance officer when we discussed 262 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,160 this at the uh financial plan can run 263 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,160 over the the table that was presented to 264 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,440 council on the number of items in 2026 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,839 78 and what their proposed capital 266 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,760 funding sources are. Uh but at this 267 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,560 point yes all of these items would be 268 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:25,920 SIP eligible. uh and in the current plan 269 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,399 some of them uh for the works that are 270 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:32,000 planned are are using SIP money and some 271 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,200 are using uh reserves uh other types of 272 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,560 reserves. So we we could note that u and 273 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,720 uh although Mr. Langmar is uh attending 274 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,040 this meeting electronically uh if he 275 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,800 wants to weigh in any further but I 276 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,480 think that's the status at this point. 277 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,310 >> Could I ask a clarifying follow-up 278 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:50,320 » Could I ask a clarifying follow-up 279 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,200 question? I I mean I I know in the uh in 280 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,519 the staff report it it referenced using 281 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,279 LGCAP fun buttons, but I also note the 282 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:59,040 resolution that was on the screen a 283 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,760 second ago um doesn't speak to where the 284 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,639 funding is going to come from that that 285 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,320 so would I be correct in thinking that 286 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,880 the actual um decision SIP versus LGCAP 287 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,639 will be made at a later date and doesn't 288 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:14,639 need to be made today given that it's 289 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:19,430 not referenced in the recommendations. 290 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,560 » Thank you through the mayor. That would 291 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,639 be that would be my uh recommendation at 292 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:25,360 this point. Um 293 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,360 and uh as I said, Mr. Langmare is is 294 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,600 participating electronically. If we uh 295 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,519 thought that we needed uh any different 296 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,440 direction than that, he would respond. 297 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,120 So we can wait till uh that uh 298 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,000 discussion could be tackled uh at our 299 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,920 February 11th 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,240 um meeting where the financial plan will 301 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,199 be presented. 302 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:49,110 >> Okay. Thanks very much. [clears throat] 303 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:49,120 » Okay. Thanks very much. [clears throat] 304 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Thanks, Councelor Cole Hamilton and 305 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,480 councelor Ilian. 306 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,230 >> Thanks, Mayor, and thanks very much for 307 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:54,240 » Thanks, Mayor, and thanks very much for 308 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,600 the work on this. I'm just curious if um 309 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,639 uh I don't think we have any solar uh 310 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:03,360 installations yet, apart from the uh the 311 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,120 crosswalks. Uh um do you know at what 312 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,480 point we will start doing uh solar 313 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,680 additions to uh to new roofs? Uh I 314 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,480 wasn't sure whether the um uh the Woodco 315 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Park uh replacement might have included 316 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,519 that. Uh but that's gone ahead before 317 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:24,160 this report. So I just appreciate an 318 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,240 update on uh when you think we might 319 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,120 actually see uh solar roofing panels on 320 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,360 city buildings. 321 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,949 >> Great question. Um Councelor Hillian, I 322 00:15:34,949 --> 00:15:34,959 » Great question. Um Councelor Hillian, I 323 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:36,160 think it's important to note that 324 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,839 there's two different objectives when it 325 00:15:37,839 --> 00:15:40,160 comes to solar panel installations. So 326 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,959 in some cases it's a great way to 327 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:44,959 provide electrical service in locations 328 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:48,880 that don't have power hookup and we see 329 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,759 small p small small solar panels used in 330 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,880 that way across the city for temporary 331 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,600 traffic billboards or um you know 332 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 lighting that that kind of thing. When 333 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,079 we're looking at permanent installations 334 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:05,440 on our facilities that's planned in 2041 335 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,920 and beyond. Um, this plan takes us to 336 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,440 our 2050 goals and the intention of 337 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,079 those installations is for on-site 338 00:16:14,079 --> 00:16:16,240 generation. So, we can power our 339 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,959 buildings using power generated onsite 340 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:21,199 to build resilience and reduce our 341 00:16:21,199 --> 00:16:23,440 greenhouse gas emissions. And that's not 342 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,160 something we would pursue until our 343 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,560 buildings are already electric and 344 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,680 efficient so that we can, you know, use 345 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,040 that solar powered generated on site 346 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,839 most effectively. 347 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:39,350 >> Thanks very much. Appreciate that. And 348 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:39,360 » Thanks very much. Appreciate that. And 349 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,199 councelor McCullum. 350 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:42,550 >> Yeah, thanks Marin. Thanks for the 351 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:42,560 » Yeah, thanks Marin. Thanks for the 352 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,600 report. Um it's great to see this uh 353 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,199 coming through and um yeah our approach 354 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:51,040 and the rationale to how we're funding 355 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,519 it and um you know the um 356 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:57,680 how we're going to address those 357 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,160 transitions over time based on when our 358 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,079 equipment is needing replacement and 359 00:17:02,079 --> 00:17:05,120 looking for opportunities to improve um 360 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:06,799 how we're using energy in our buildings 361 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:09,039 makes a lot of sense to me. Uh, one 362 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:12,160 question I did have is, um, as far as I 363 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,120 could tell, there wasn't, um, a lot of 364 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:17,839 analysis on whether or not there's cost 365 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,720 savings and in terms of like future 366 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,679 operational costs going with electricity 367 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:28,319 over natural gas. Um, and I mean with 368 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,919 the um change in taxation on natural gas 369 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:35,440 um with the um carbon tax being removed 370 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,039 and I realize there's a lot more 371 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:40,080 variability with um natural gas than I I 372 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,760 think electricity rates are are 373 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,240 reasonably predictable. Um but I'm 374 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,600 wondering if we have a sense of whether 375 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,440 or not this represents an operational 376 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,880 savings or um like for like or if you if 377 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,480 you have any insights into that that 378 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,280 would be good to know as well. 379 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,400 Thanks, councelor McCullum. What are we 380 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,160 do have data on that and I will point 381 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,200 out that it is available um in 382 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,840 attachment three and appendix B or C 383 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,080 that has a list of all of the specific 384 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,760 upgrades or that are planned at each 385 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,720 building and for each specific upgrade 386 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,280 um it indicates if we can expect some 387 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,720 operational savings or not and in cases 388 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,039 where we are switching from gas to an 389 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:25,919 electricity it's likely that it we may 390 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:28,640 have additional util ility costs because 391 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,559 electricity so far has been more 392 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:33,360 expensive than gas. In cases where we 393 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,320 are making or we are using electricity 394 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,480 more efficiently, we do expect an 395 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,360 operational cost savings. And so it it's 396 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:43,280 quite project dependent and we have 397 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 those two variables happening at the 398 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,559 same time where we are increasing 399 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:51,600 electricity use while decreasing gas use 400 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,240 across our portfolio. 401 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,799 Sorry, which attachment did you say 402 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:01,039 that? What's attachment three? Appendix 403 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:04,080 appendix B 404 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,240 are numbered differently. I Yeah, I'm 405 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,679 sorry. I didn't see that when I was 406 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:14,870 reading through the reports. 407 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Appendix P. I'll find it. Um, yeah, we 408 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,679 can we can carry on. But uh yeah, that's 409 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:21,520 useful and and that does make sense to 410 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,679 me that um it's case dependent. 411 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:28,950 >> So I misspoke. Uh attachment for 412 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:28,960 » So I misspoke. Uh attachment for 413 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,400 appendix B if 414 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,470 >> Oh, okay. Yeah, in the big report. Okay, 415 00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:32,480 » Oh, okay. Yeah, in the big report. Okay, 416 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,080 thanks. I'll I'll go back and look at 417 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,240 that. 418 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,470 >> And thanks uh councelor McCullum and 419 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:38,480 » And thanks uh councelor McCullum and 420 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,440 councelor Fr. 421 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,669 >> Yeah, thanks Mayor. Um in the case of 422 00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:41,679 » Yeah, thanks Mayor. Um in the case of 423 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:44,080 the native hall, that's something that 424 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,520 you're interested in doing sooner than 425 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,480 later, it looks like. Um, where's that 426 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,320 heating plant at? Like it does it need 427 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,000 to be replaced this year? Is that why 428 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,150 it's first on the docket? 429 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,880 » Great question, Councelor Fr. Um, that 430 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,039 heating plant uh definitely needs to be 431 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:03,600 replaced. It's end of life and I was 432 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,440 told by our facility maintenance folks 433 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,760 that we could be experiencing cold 434 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,760 spells if we don't replace it in short 435 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,000 order. So, that one is at the top of our 436 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,080 priority list for that reason. 437 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,789 >> Yeah. And um yeah, I don't I don't know 438 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:16,799 » Yeah. And um yeah, I don't I don't know 439 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:18,160 a lot about heating systems, but it 440 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,080 looks like it's maybe 60,000 to replace 441 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,240 it with the existing something like what 442 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,120 we have. I assume that's a gas, I know, 443 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:29,280 boiler or something similar. Um yet it's 444 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,799 $350,000 for an electric I assume. Is it 445 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:35,520 a heat pump or is it an electric boiler? 446 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,960 Sorry to get into the nitty-gritty. I 447 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,400 just it's a lot of money. It's a huge 448 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,400 difference between the electric version 449 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,080 and the gas version. And maybe there's 450 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,679 also some other pieces that have to be 451 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:47,600 replaced for changing fuel source. 452 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,390 >> Great question. Um, is our consultant 453 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:50,400 » Great question. Um, is our consultant 454 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200 from Prism on the line? Um, I think this 455 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,039 would be a great technical question to 456 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:57,840 get some of their input. So, um, I'll 457 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,960 pass that over to Emma from Prism. 458 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,029 >> Hi. Can you all hear me? 459 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:03,039 » Hi. Can you all hear me? 460 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:03,669 >> Yep. 461 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:03,679 » Yep. 462 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,669 >> Yes. Great. Thank you so much for that 463 00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:05,679 » Yes. Great. Thank you so much for that 464 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:07,520 question. That's a good one. So the 465 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,640 Native Suns Hall um boiler plant heating 466 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,120 plant upgrade um actually is with a 467 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,720 higher efficiency boiler but there's 468 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,480 other work involved that has increased 469 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,200 the cost. Um and specifically that has 470 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,559 to do with the piping through the 471 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:25,039 building. Um so while we were on site we 472 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:27,039 noticed that the way it has been piped 473 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:29,280 to the building leads to inefficiencies, 474 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,440 a lot of heat radiating to spaces where 475 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,960 it doesn't need to be. So, a lot of 476 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,640 losses along the way and so this upgrade 477 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,520 um most of the cost is to improve those 478 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,360 efficiencies that will critically help 479 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,000 with occupant comfort and improve the 480 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,799 efficiency of the system overall. So, 481 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,360 that's where we see a big cost. 482 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,190 >> Yeah, thanks for that. I guess I just 483 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:51,200 » Yeah, thanks for that. I guess I just 484 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,559 want to make sure that staff are looking 485 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:54,159 at it obviously with a critical eye 486 00:21:54,159 --> 00:21:56,240 trying to figure out, you know, um 487 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,080 because we are entering a bit of a 488 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,080 session if anyone's not noticed and uh 489 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,679 so maybe we make sure that we're doing 490 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:03,600 what needs to be done in the most 491 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,120 efficient way and it sounds like that's 492 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,880 what you're doing. So I appreciate that. 493 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:12,310 Thanks. 494 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,000 » Okay. Uh that was going to be my next 495 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,280 question. I don't see anything any 496 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280 questions. Somebody like to second it. 497 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,430 >> All right. Motion's moved and seconded. 498 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:19,440 » All right. Motion's moved and seconded. 499 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,520 Uh any questions or comments with motion 500 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,159 on the floor? See none. All those in 501 00:22:24,159 --> 00:22:26,240 favor 502 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,799 motion carries. All right, 503 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:35,280 we'll move on to um uh next item under 504 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,280 financial services, Courtney Marina 505 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Society renewal lease. And at this 506 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,559 point, I'll uh just declare my uh 507 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:44,000 conflict of interest and I'll pass it 508 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,400 over to councelor Morn as acting mayor 509 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:55,750 and uh vacate my seat. 510 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Okay. So, I think I'll hand it over to 511 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,640 staff to introduce this uh this report. 512 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,200 Thank you. 513 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720 I need to Where's my mic? 514 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Yeah, 515 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,400 it's usually on the other side the 516 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,200 regional district. 517 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,350 >> Thank you. uh through the uh acting 518 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:13,360 » Thank you. uh through the uh acting 519 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,039 mayor uh to councel um our manager of 520 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:18,480 procurement risk and real estate Scott 521 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,559 Hinssworth who's going to introduce this 522 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:24,870 report. 523 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,559 Thank you Mr. Garbet. Uh through the 524 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,960 city manager to the acting man the 525 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,360 acting mayor uh in council. Uh this 526 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,039 report seeks council direction on 527 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,039 renewing the lease uh with the Courtney 528 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:38,159 Renewal Courtney Marina Society for the 529 00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:40,080 city-owned marina lands on the Courtney 530 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,880 waterfront. The city has leased the 531 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,640 marina facilities to the Courtney Marina 532 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,640 Society for over 30 years to support 533 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480 public access to the water, including 534 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,320 small motorized and non-motorized 535 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,200 vessels. The society is a notfor-profit 536 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,880 organization that operates and maintains 537 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,080 the marina on behalf of the city. Over 538 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,679 time, the society has made investments 539 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:01,280 in the marina at its own expense, 540 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520 including dock upgrades, storm repairs, 541 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,039 safety improvements, and ongoing 542 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:06,640 maintenance. 543 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,240 The current lease term expires at the 544 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,880 end of 2025 or has expired at the end of 545 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,440 2025 uh with the and the society is 546 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,919 requesting a renewal um effective 547 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:18,240 January 1st, 2026. 548 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,480 As part of the renewal, staff reviewed 549 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,960 uh existing revenue sharing the the 550 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,880 existing revenue sharing arrangement and 551 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,640 commissioned an independent appraisal to 552 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,200 establish the market rental value of the 553 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 submerged lands. The appraisal 554 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,039 determined that the market lease value 555 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,600 is approximately $10,100 annually 556 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,360 recognizing the unique constraints of 557 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,000 the site including tide dependent access 558 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,559 as well as limited amenities. 559 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:44,080 Staff also considered the broader 560 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,919 planning context. A local area plan for 561 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,279 the Courtney Air Park and Marina 562 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,559 precinct is scheduled for 2027 and staff 563 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,159 recommend that the lease be revisited 564 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:54,080 once that planning work is complete to 565 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400 ensure alignment with future land use 566 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,240 direction. 567 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,919 Council's presented with several options 568 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:02,000 ranging from maintaining the status quo 569 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,440 revenue sharing model to moving 570 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,919 immediately to a full market lease rate. 571 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:07,760 Staff are recommending option one, a 572 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,919 graduated lease rate. This approach 573 00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,360 transitions from the current revenue 574 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,080 sharing model to uh toward full market 575 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,240 rent over the 5-year term. The 576 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,919 recommended option balances fiscal 577 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:19,679 responsibility with the operational 578 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,679 realities of a small not for-profit 579 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:23,200 society, reducing administrative 580 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,600 complexity over time and maintains 581 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520 continuity of marina operations while 582 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,080 longerterm planning is underway. Staff 583 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,679 are also recommending updated lease 584 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,520 provisions to streamline administration, 585 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,159 including GST treatment and clearer 586 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:39,279 membership requirements. In summary, uh 587 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,120 the recommended approach supports public 588 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,039 access to the waterfront, recognizes the 589 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,880 society's long-standing role in 590 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,720 investments and positions the city to 591 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,480 reassess the arrangement once broader 592 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,400 precinct planning is complete. And with 593 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,679 that, I'd be happy to take any 594 00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:52,880 questions. 595 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,549 >> Great. Thank you. And I see councelor 596 00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:54,559 » Great. Thank you. And I see councelor 597 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,880 Hillian has a question. Go ahead. 598 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,750 >> Thanks, Acting Mayor. I was just curious 599 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:59,760 » Thanks, Acting Mayor. I was just curious 600 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,279 um thanks for the work in the report, by 601 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,320 the way. Uh I was curious about um if 602 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,480 market value is uh is that amount now in 603 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720 5 years isn't it going to be more and 604 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,600 does it put us into um another catchup 605 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,880 situation? 606 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,269 >> Uh it it could potentially put us at 607 00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:17,279 » Uh it it could potentially put us at 608 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,600 another catch-up situation. Um I I think 609 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,520 to a much lesser degree than what we're 610 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,600 looking to achieve at at this time. Um, 611 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,679 I think given the magnitude of the 612 00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,919 change, uh, staff didn't feel like an 613 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:30,799 additional cost or CPI increase was 614 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,159 necessary, but we can certainly look at 615 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:36,549 that if council wishes. 616 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,870 » Okay. And 617 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,559 councelor FR. 618 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,950 >> Yeah. Thanks, acting mayor. Um, my 619 00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:44,960 » Yeah. Thanks, acting mayor. Um, my 620 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,388 question is around whether 621 00:26:47,388 --> 00:26:48,880 [clears throat] 622 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,039 the um, society collects the fees and 623 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,799 then remits the rest to us. That's how 624 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,880 it works. It kind of flows through them. 625 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,360 And so I'm wondering if we're we're 626 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,159 going to increase their rates um if you 627 00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:01,520 think it's realistic that they'll be 628 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,960 able to um charge those rates based on 629 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,120 you know it it's very title access 630 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,600 there. So you think the market will bear 631 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,120 that or is that our assumption then when 632 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,919 we get them up to you know $10,000 and 633 00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:16,880 in lease fees to us? 634 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960 Sorry. Um no thanks for the question. 635 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,880 Based on feedback from the the Marina 636 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Society and a review of their financial 637 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,520 statements, we didn't think that there 638 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080 was a this was causing a real barrier to 639 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840 their financial operations. So, initial 640 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,240 feedback has hasn't uh raised any red 641 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,039 flags. 642 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:35,029 >> Okay, thanks very much. 643 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,679 » Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Um, 644 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:40,240 is there any further discussion? Seeing 645 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,200 none, all in favor? 646 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,559 No one opposed. Okay, thank you. I guess 647 00:27:46,559 --> 00:28:02,230 we'll call the mayor back in. 648 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Thank you, Councelor Morren. Much 649 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:07,039 appreciated. And we'll move into uh the 650 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,159 fire department uh UBCM community 651 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:12,480 emergency preparedness fund grant 652 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,520 application. And I'll 653 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:26,070 turn on your microphone there in a sec. 654 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,000 All right. And Mr. Garbert. 655 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,350 >> Yeah. Thank you. Through the mayor to 656 00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:31,360 » Yeah. Thank you. Through the mayor to 657 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,679 council. Um 658 00:28:33,679 --> 00:28:35,279 this report in front of you, Chief 659 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:36,799 McDonald is going to give an overview. I 660 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,039 just wanted to continue to highlight the 661 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,840 partnership and leader and leadership uh 662 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,600 that our we continue to have our fire 663 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 department evolve into a uh 664 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,760 multi-jurisdictional emergency 665 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,080 management support center. Um and uh 666 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360 this has been discussed uh at the uh CEO 667 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,840 level that this kind of uh joint 668 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880 approach both through grant support and 669 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,559 program support to the emergency program 670 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:03,679 is really critical for it to be 671 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:05,760 effective. But I just I I want to take 672 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,480 every opportunity to highlight the uh 673 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640 partnership that we continue to um 674 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,320 support. Chief McDonald, 675 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,159 thank you through the CEO to Mayor and 676 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:17,840 Council. Uh the purpose of this report 677 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,399 is to seek council approval to reapply 678 00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:22,799 for the following Union of BC 679 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,880 municipalities community emergency 680 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,960 preparedness fund regional application 681 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,360 streams. the emergency operations center 682 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,360 equipment and training, emergency 683 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,960 support services equipment and training 684 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,360 funding, public notification and 685 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200 evacuation planning and indigenous 686 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,720 cultural safety and humility. Uh as uh 687 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640 this CEO has stated that this 688 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,039 application is being made in partnership 689 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,360 with the Komox Valley Regional District, 690 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,919 town of Komox Village of Cumberland and 691 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:53,679 Komox First Nation, which allows us to 692 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:57,039 look at these uh projects with a 693 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,679 regional lens and provide maximum value 694 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:01,360 to the amount of funding that's coming 695 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,399 in. Uh fairly straightforward uh report 696 00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:06,399 and happy to take any questions if you 697 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:08,320 have any on them. 698 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,070 >> Fantastic. I really appreciate it's 699 00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:10,080 » Fantastic. I really appreciate it's 700 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,159 great to see this regional partnership 701 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:17,039 uh um on these uh applications and um I 702 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:21,279 don't really see uh councelor MREN 703 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,669 >> Oh, sorry. Yeah, I just wanted to say 704 00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:23,679 » Oh, sorry. Yeah, I just wanted to say 705 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:26,240 thank you for being uh diligent in 706 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,840 applying for grants. This is on the 707 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,679 heels of course of the other the 708 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:32,640 regional uh big award that the region 709 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,159 received for the community resiliency um 710 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:38,720 uh fires smart. So hopefully you'll be 711 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120 just as lucky with this one. Thank you. 712 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,990 >> Thank you. 713 00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:44,000 » Thank you. 714 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,909 >> Right, it's been moved and seconded. I 715 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:45,919 » Right, it's been moved and seconded. I 716 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:47,200 don't think there's much discussion. All 717 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,240 those in favor? Any opposed? And motion 718 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720 carries. And uh the next item is 719 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Courtney Fire Department annual report. 720 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,799 Back to you. Uh fire chief. 721 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,149 >> Thank you through the CEO to Mayor and 722 00:31:00,149 --> 00:31:00,159 » Thank you through the CEO to Mayor and 723 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:01,760 Council. Again, I'd like to thank you 724 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,919 for the opportunity to present the Cordi 725 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:07,120 Fire Department's 2025 annual report. 726 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,960 Uh, I'll be providing you an overview of 727 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,480 what the department did over the past 728 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,159 year, starting with who we are, then 729 00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:14,159 moving into response activity, 730 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:16,000 prevention, training, and our work 731 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,039 beyond municipal boundaries. 732 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,880 The Courtney Fire Department operates as 733 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,640 a composite department, combining a 734 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320 small career staff with a large 735 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,399 volunteer component. Our volunteers 736 00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:27,760 handle a significant portion of 737 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 emergency response particularly in 738 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,799 evenings, nights and weekends early 739 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,919 evenings. Uh this model continues to 740 00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:37,600 work because of our strong training 741 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,960 coordination and a high level of 742 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,399 commitment from our members which is a 743 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,679 theme that you'll see reflected through 744 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:47,269 the rest of this report. 745 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,440 Looking at overall response activity in 746 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,799 2025, the department responded to 1,36 747 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,960 calls for service. That's slightly lower 748 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,519 than 2024. And this decrease was driven 749 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,159 mainly by fewer ambulance assists and 750 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:02,480 fewer open burning responses. While the 751 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640 total number of calls declined, the 752 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,159 amount of time and effort required to 753 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:08,080 manage incidents remains substantial, 754 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,320 particularly for our volunteer members. 755 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,760 When we look at where those calls 756 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,600 occurred, the majority were west of the 757 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,120 Cordy River, which is consistent with 758 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640 pretty much every year that we've been 759 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,200 tracking these stats. We still do have a 760 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,039 consistent significant portion of 761 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,279 responses to the east side, but again, 762 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,760 not as much as to the west. Um, 763 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,919 this split has remained fairly stable 764 00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:35,440 year after year and is an important 765 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,799 operational consideration when we're 766 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,480 looking at staffing, deployment, and 767 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,320 response coverage across the city. 768 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320 Breaking those calls down further, alarm 769 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,679 activations were the most common 770 00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:48,640 response types in 2025. Open burning and 771 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,159 motor vehicle incidents followed with 772 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:51,600 public service calls and ambulance 773 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,200 assists continue to represent a 774 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,909 meaningful share of our workload. 775 00:32:57,919 --> 00:32:59,600 Prevention and public education are key 776 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,519 parts of reducing emergency risk in the 777 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,080 community. In 2025, staff completed more 778 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,000 than 1,800 fire inspections and 779 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,519 delivered 191 public education events. 780 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,279 Most deficiencies identified during 781 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,200 inspections were minor in nature. things 782 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,200 like emergency lighting or fire 783 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,399 extinguishers with that required 784 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:18,640 servicing which indicates good overall 785 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,120 compliance. This work plays a 786 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,559 significant role in improving fire 787 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:31,190 safety before emergencies occur. 788 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,640 Supporting both response and prevention 789 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,799 is a strong emphasis on training. In 790 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,000 2025, members completed over 4,900 hours 791 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,679 of training covering fire suppression, 792 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:41,600 auto extrication, self-rescue, and 793 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840 medical response. Included in that 794 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,279 medical response was required BC 795 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:49,120 emergency medical assistance gap 796 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,360 training which was completed ensuring 797 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,519 compliance with updated medical response 798 00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:55,840 standards. Essentially, they increased 799 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,000 the uh types of um protocols and 800 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,159 treatment that we could could provide to 801 00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:04,480 a patient and it required everyone in 802 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,240 our department to go through a day's 803 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560 worth of training, additional training 804 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,839 over and above everything else that they 805 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,960 have to do. Uh we've also started a new 806 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,800 recruit class in September and those 807 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,159 members have been progressing very well 808 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,079 through the program. They're actually at 809 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,000 this stage now where they're going to be 810 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,240 doing their first live fire uh training 811 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,000 where they'll be going into the burn 812 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,760 building that we have at the training 813 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,679 ground and we'll be seeing how they 814 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,679 perform under those types of of 815 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,470 situations. 816 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,079 Beyond day-to-day operations, the 817 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:37,520 department also supported broader 818 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,280 emergency and wildfire response efforts 819 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,079 in 2025. While the local emergency 820 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,240 program activations were limited, those 821 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,879 would be for your uh warming and/or 822 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:49,440 cooling events, uh provincial wildfire 823 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000 activity remained significant. Cordi 824 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,440 fire department personnel were deployed 825 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,200 to support wildfire suppression and 826 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,440 emergency operation center operations 827 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,960 during the Wesley Ridge and the Mount 828 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 Underwood fires, working alongside 829 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,510 regional and provincial partners. 830 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,040 Alongside emergency response and 831 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,480 training, the department also worked on 832 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,920 several internal priorities throughout 833 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,839 the year. These included work related to 834 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:14,240 facilities, staffing analysis, and fleet 835 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,560 planning, all managed while maintaining 836 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,240 uninterrupted emergency service 837 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,440 delivery. In summary, 2025 was a year of 838 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,200 steady response activity, strong 839 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,040 volunteer engagement, and continued 840 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,480 emphasis on training, prevention, and 841 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,560 regional cooperation. On behalf of the 842 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,920 members of the Courtney Fire Department, 843 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,280 I'd like to thank council for its 844 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,880 continued support, and I'd be happy to 845 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,599 answer any questions you may have. 846 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,359 So, thanks so much for for the report. 847 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:39,599 It's great to see uh all the numbers. Um 848 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:41,440 maybe I have a a quick question on 849 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,760 whether or not um this is something that 850 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,640 gets uh advertised uh through social 851 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,560 media like on the the volunteer 852 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,880 firefighters um Facebook page, that kind 853 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,240 of stuff, or it's something that just 854 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,200 comes to council. 855 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,550 >> Are referring to the stats? 856 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:54,560 » Are referring to the stats? 857 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,430 >> Uh yeah. Or or the Yeah, 858 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:57,440 » Uh yeah. Or or the Yeah, 859 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,270 >> generally just present it to council. We 860 00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:59,280 » generally just present it to council. We 861 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,680 do do some highlights of of like bigger 862 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,839 events on uh Facebook or use social 863 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:06,560 media but again just prefer to use 864 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,560 prefer to use this venue to to discuss 865 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,320 and they've got access to it through the 866 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,599 annual report that comes out I think in 867 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,200 June and things like that. So the public 868 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,560 does have access if they want it they 869 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,760 can also phone the fire department and 870 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,599 we can answer questions that way as 871 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,440 well. But uh yeah 872 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,190 >> fair enough. Thanks very much and Mr. 873 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:21,200 » fair enough. Thanks very much and Mr. 874 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,839 Carbid. 875 00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:23,589 >> Uh thank you through the mayor. with 876 00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:23,599 » Uh thank you through the mayor. with 877 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,280 respect to talking about the activities 878 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680 of the city. It's a segue I can mention 879 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,880 our uh electronic um um 880 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,349 >> newsletter 881 00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:31,359 » newsletter 882 00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:33,589 >> newsletter and so I just was looking at 883 00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:33,599 » newsletter and so I just was looking at 884 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:34,800 this afternoon and it will have 885 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,079 information about fire department 886 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,240 activities. So, it's a great opportunity 887 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,920 to talk about the good work that the 888 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,560 taxpayers of Courtney Fund and all the 889 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,480 good work that our uh collective staff 890 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,520 groups are doing 891 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,109 >> and and my apologies for not saying 892 00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:47,119 » and and my apologies for not saying 893 00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,920 newsletter because uh it's so new. Uh 894 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,760 but it uh I've [clears throat] gotten 895 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,400 feedback on it already. Uh everything 896 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,920 basically positive which is great great 897 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,359 to hear and uh um and again pro probably 898 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:00,960 an even better place to get that 899 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,800 information out through. So, thanks Mr. 900 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,760 Carvet. Uh councelor McCullum. Yeah, 901 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,359 thanks mayor and thanks for the report. 902 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:09,920 I I just had a question on the slide 903 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,520 that was showing um the east side uh 904 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,680 response or the calls versus the west. 905 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,400 Is that limit are those numbers limited 906 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,359 to the city of Kourtney calls or does 907 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:26,000 that also include the um our fire 908 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960 protection area that we cover? 909 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,710 >> Great question. that it's all the 910 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:30,720 » Great question. that it's all the 911 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,640 responses including the fire protection 912 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640 district. The Courtney Fire Protection 913 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,720 District though is divided up into three 914 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,960 chunks. One would be south of Walmart. 915 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,359 So those would count in the west. Uh the 916 00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:44,640 other would be north of uh Virginia 917 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,359 Drive or Piery area there. So actually 918 00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:48,480 Piery isn't that would be considered 919 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,040 west because it's west of the river, but 920 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,079 north of um Virginia Drive that would be 921 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:55,760 considered in the east. And then you 922 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160 have the chunk that basically is along 923 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,240 Dyke Road out by the animal hospital. 924 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:01,280 There's a small piece of the fire 925 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,400 protection district that uh that belongs 926 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,359 to that. That said, just off the top of 927 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:09,119 my head, probably our responses to the 928 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,200 fire protection district in total would 929 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,599 be maybe a hundred for the for the 930 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,000 whole. So of the third, you know, that 931 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,520 basically means that the other 1,200 932 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,240 responses or let's just say 1150 for for 933 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,160 sake of argument here, 1150 are city 934 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,280 responses. 935 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,790 >> Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. Thanks for 936 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:24,800 » Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. Thanks for 937 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,320 that context. 938 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,150 >> Thanks, Council McCullum and Councelor 939 00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:28,160 » Thanks, Council McCullum and Councelor 940 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,280 Moore. 941 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,030 >> Great. Thanks, Mayor. Um, just a 942 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:31,040 » Great. Thanks, Mayor. Um, just a 943 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,440 comment. I I know it's not significant 944 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,040 enough to include in your report, but 945 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359 from a managerial perspective, you did 946 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:39,280 take council down to the Dashwood fireh 947 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,599 hall, and I wanted to mention that 948 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,960 because um that has influenced um the 949 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,079 design of the new fireh hall to to be as 950 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,800 economical as possible and to scale back 951 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,720 kind of the original plans. And I just 952 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,680 wanted to um show appreciation for kind 953 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,800 of thinking outside the box and and 954 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,880 taking that extra effort so that we can 955 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,839 try to um yeah try to manage the finance 956 00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:05,760 as well and still have a a great new 957 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,880 fireh hall, but um modeling it somewhat 958 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,640 a um after the the one in Qualcomm. And 959 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,280 then also just um it was just really 960 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,359 even though it was a sort of sad 961 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:20,560 occasion at Lawrence Burns um uh 962 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,960 memorial service, it was just really 963 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800 impressive to see all the local 964 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,640 firefighters of course from across the 965 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,079 region, but just to hear um I think 966 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,599 comments and when I was chatting with 967 00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:34,240 people after the service just there just 968 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,560 seems to be a really great climate um 969 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,720 within the Courtney Fire Department um 970 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,680 with our personnel and um yeah and I 971 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,960 think That's obviously um kudos to 972 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,119 yourself as well as other supervisors 973 00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,680 and um and the and the way that you 974 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,680 operate um the training programs and 975 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,160 everything else. So, thank you. 976 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,829 >> Thank you very much for the comments. I 977 00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:55,839 » Thank you very much for the comments. I 978 00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,480 would like to just throw a little some 979 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,040 appreciation to our honor guard. Uh they 980 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,640 were the ones that led the Burns family 981 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,280 in and out and I honestly have not seen 982 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,359 them perform as well as they did for 983 00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:09,520 that particular that particular event. 984 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,920 It was it was really meaningful to the 985 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,760 family and I was I mean proud of 986 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,440 everybody obviously but really proud of 987 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,960 the effort that that group put in. So 988 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,000 again, thank you very much for 989 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,560 acknowledging that. 990 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,230 >> Thanks Councelor Morren and Councelor 991 00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:22,240 » Thanks Councelor Morren and Councelor 992 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:23,520 Hill. 993 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,670 >> Thanks Mayor. That's actually what I 994 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:25,680 » Thanks Mayor. That's actually what I 995 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,560 wanted to do and and um to acknowledge 996 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,480 that honor guard and the fine job that 997 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,320 your department did on that day. But I 998 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,079 also wanted to commend you on your your 999 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,880 words and uh say how uh how well you did 1000 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,599 on that occasion and and uh I think you 1001 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,839 and your department did the city proud 1002 00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:45,040 um as you honored the service of a truly 1003 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,040 remarkable leader. Thank you. 1004 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,829 >> Thank you very much. 1005 00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:49,839 » Thank you very much. 1006 00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:53,510 >> All right. I don't see any further uh um 1007 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:53,520 » All right. I don't see any further uh um 1008 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,200 questions or comments. Uh so again, 1009 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,440 yeah, thanks so much and and uh yeah, 1010 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,520 the the celebration of life for uh 1011 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160 Lawrence was just an amazing event uh 1012 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,920 and just really appreciated everybody 1013 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,319 who took took part in that to uh really 1014 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:09,680 honor his his memory. So um with that, 1015 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,720 if someone can make the recommendation. 1016 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,390 >> All right, 1017 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:14,400 » All right, 1018 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,480 all those in favor and motion carries. 1019 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,119 And um and I do see that uh Inspector 1020 00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,920 Mercer is here. So we can um meander 1021 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,839 back to 1022 00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:30,160 um where did it go? Item 4.1 for Komox 1023 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,800 Valley RCMP. 1024 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040 And the microphone's already on. We've 1025 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560 got the um 1026 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,119 PowerPoint ready to go. Is the clicker 1027 00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,440 up there as well? You should have a 1028 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,270 clicker there. 1029 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,520 partner didn't disinfect it either, so 1030 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,560 sure you're fine, right? 1031 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,640 We joke, we kid. Police and fire love 1032 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,470 each other. 1033 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,319 » Uh well, thank you council for having 1034 00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:02,480 me. I apologize for uh not being here on 1035 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,720 time. I was uh unfortunately called away 1036 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,359 on something else operationally, but uh 1037 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,359 nonetheless, I am here to discuss the 1038 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:11,680 third quarter uh report. uh the slides 1039 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,200 that I believe that have been presented 1040 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,400 to you should reflect quarterto quarter 1041 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,720 on it. Uh my initial slides uh slide 1042 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,880 deck that I uh provided was a 1043 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,560 comparative from uh the this year from 1044 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,359 last uh to last year. So while my data 1045 00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:29,520 in front of me is from uh year to year 1046 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,040 I'll roll through this. I don't think 1047 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,599 it'll differ too much. 1048 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,359 Uh in the third quarter of the 2025 2026 1049 00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:41,760 fiscal year, there was a 505 505 file 1050 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,119 increase in the number of calls for 1051 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:44,880 service in Courtney relative to the 1052 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,119 third quarter of the previous fiscal 1053 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:48,960 year. 1054 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,319 Uh for the most common call types that 1055 00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:55,599 we saw, uh it was traffic, unwanted 1056 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,119 persons, and check well-being that 1057 00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:58,880 dominated most of our calls for service 1058 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,680 in this time period. Uh we saw decreases 1059 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,839 in street level calls for service such 1060 00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:06,720 as uh uh disturbances, suspicious 1061 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,440 persons, thefts uh assist, EHS and other 1062 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,030 agencies. 1063 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,960 The most common call locations that we 1064 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,880 uh that we saw was that the provincial 1065 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880 courthouse uh again dominated it in 1066 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,319 terms that we saw a uh 226 file 1067 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,119 difference uh from the previous year. So 1068 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,800 we're uh looking at about 126% uh de uh 1069 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,400 increase. And I've talked about this 1070 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,880 before in terms of the source of these 1071 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,720 uh these calls for service mainly stem 1072 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:36,880 from administrative investigative files 1073 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,560 such as failed to appear, breach of 1074 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,800 probation, breach of conditions as such. 1075 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,720 Uh because the provincial courthouse is 1076 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,280 situated within the city of Courtney, uh 1077 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920 these files are generated and they are 1078 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,000 uh investigated by members. So while 1079 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,599 they may be administrative in nature, 1080 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:53,520 there's still a level of component that 1081 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,160 needs to happen with it in terms of the 1082 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,240 execution of these uh arrest warrants or 1083 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:01,040 these uh conditions uh breach and the 1084 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,720 paperwork and disclosure that goes with 1085 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,440 it. Uh in review of these files, it 1086 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,720 doesn't differ from my previous 1087 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,280 commentary that the majority of the 1088 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,119 courthouse files that are generated. If 1089 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,119 we looked at the origin of offenders, 1090 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,839 over half come from the Kourtney area 1091 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:18,079 while the other remainder are split 1092 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,800 between uh the CVRD as well as the town 1093 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640 of Komox. And then we have our outside 1094 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,319 influences that come into this area as 1095 00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:27,520 well. Uh superstore was one of uh our 1096 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,359 bigger ones where we continually get 1097 00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:31,599 theft of uh shoplifting complaints from 1098 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:33,680 there. But a lot of these uh complaints 1099 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,119 are resolved through the restorative 1100 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:36,800 justice and not necessarily through 1101 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,319 charges. And we have a really good 1102 00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:39,680 partner with the Superstore loss 1103 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200 prevention as well as a lot of our box 1104 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,599 stores in terms of using this avenue as 1105 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,599 a means to resolve files before they 1106 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,640 actually go to the uh to any sort of uh 1107 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,800 groundup supported charges. Uh the 1108 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920 connect warming center uh we did see uh 1109 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,400 an increase in in activi or sorry a 1110 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,920 decrease in uh activity from here. uh if 1111 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,720 we uh go from last year to this year, 1112 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,760 however, there uh comparative over 1113 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,800 years, we've actually seen a steady uh 1114 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,280 steady decrease in uh in this uh in this 1115 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,359 area. Uh I know this is prevalent to a 1116 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:15,119 lot of business owners as such to know 1117 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:16,640 and understand the activities that 1118 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,240 surround the connect warming center and 1119 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,480 I engage with uh CEO Garbet on this 1120 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,160 regularly as well as any other business 1121 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,599 owners that have any concerns. I've 1122 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,839 shared uh similar data with them to show 1123 00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:27,280 the policing efforts and enforcement 1124 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,640 efforts that we're doing as well as the 1125 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,000 patrol activities that we're doing in 1126 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,800 these areas. Um we saw a uh 114% 1127 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,640 increase at the junction which pertained 1128 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,119 mainly to uh missing persons complaints, 1129 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:41,119 theft of property and unwanted persons 1130 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,040 as well. 1131 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,720 uh 1132 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,480 we did see a change in data entry uh for 1133 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,839 uh Courtney this year in which you can 1134 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:54,560 see there is unspecified location where 1135 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,920 there is a 1300 over 1300% increase in 1136 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,400 this category. What this is is we 1137 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,480 changed our way of scoring in terms of 1138 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,960 certain locations. uh if we get a 1139 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,720 complaint where we don't have a specific 1140 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,319 location with Courtney, if it's just 1141 00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:10,480 called in, it's often referred to as 1142 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,520 just Courtney, BC. So that's how it's 1143 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,800 correlating to the data that you're 1144 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,240 seeing here is that we don't actually 1145 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,319 have a specific area, but it's just 1146 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:21,040 assigned to the geographic area. If 1147 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,880 there are questions from council on 1148 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,480 that, uh I can take that at the end of 1149 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,560 the presentation and then I source that 1150 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,319 back with my analyst if they want a 1151 00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:30,480 little bit more uh context to that uh 1152 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,640 that change in data point. and and we 1153 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,640 might have a slightly different 1154 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,680 presentation in our um escribe because I 1155 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,760 I see wildly different numbers. So I 1156 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,880 don't know if um 1157 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,230 >> and that might be the difference in 1158 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:42,240 » and that might be the difference in 1159 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:43,920 presentation slide decks. Originally I'd 1160 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,480 given this one uh and then I followed up 1161 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,960 with a third from a third quarter to 1162 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,280 second quarter. So right that's why I 1163 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,760 also have a difference of data. So, so 1164 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,200 for those thousands of people that are 1165 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,440 following us online and using that that 1166 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,200 one they they might uh see there might 1167 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,640 be a bit of different thanks. 1168 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,550 >> It might it might be helpful if if both 1169 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:02,560 » It might it might be helpful if if both 1170 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,400 are provided uh to the to the public 1171 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,160 after this presentation so they can see 1172 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,280 the difference. If they just want to 1173 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,800 follow on the screen along we can just 1174 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200 go from uh the comparative years and 1175 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,200 then uh we can provide more drilled down 1176 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,880 data through the other slide deck on the 1177 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,400 on the third quarter. So thank you your 1178 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,760 worship for appreciate it. 1179 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,349 >> I saw a lot of confused faces and 1180 00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:19,359 » I saw a lot of confused faces and 1181 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:22,720 mumbling over that. [laughter] 1182 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,400 Yeah. 1183 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,150 >> Um so for downtown calls for service uh 1184 00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:28,160 » Um so for downtown calls for service uh 1185 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200 there was a a large increase in breach 1186 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,440 uh that we saw uh 141% approximately 230 1187 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,000 files. Uh so again that was uh 1188 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000 associated to the courthouse and 1189 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,680 probation area that that I discussed 1190 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,520 earlier. Uh unwanted persons saw a uh 1191 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,440 22% decrease or a negative 133 file 1192 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,960 difference. uh violent crime. Uh we saw 1193 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,920 uh a 2% increase in violent crime 1194 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,280 relative to 2024. Uh higher numbers of 1195 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,040 harassment calls for service in which 1196 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,480 there was a 22% increase from uh 2024 or 1197 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,119 approximately a 38 file difference. Uh 1198 00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,160 we did see minor drops in uh threats and 1199 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,280 sex offenses, robbery, homicide, arson 1200 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,440 uh but a slight increase in assault and 1201 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,720 forceful confinement. 1202 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,720 As uh I've talked about before, when it 1203 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,800 comes to the heat map, we find most of 1204 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,240 our uh calls for service, whether 1205 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,000 they're uh violent crime or property 1206 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,480 crime to be focused in the more dense or 1207 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,720 populated areas uh where we find that 1208 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,200 the most tra uh traffic is vehicle or 1209 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,599 human uh or where we have residential 1210 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:37,839 areas or uh condensed businesses as 1211 00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:39,760 such. So this is consistent in terms of 1212 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,520 the East Courtney and downtown areas 1213 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,559 where we see uh the more uh inflamed 1214 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,559 part of the the heat map to show the uh 1215 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,559 the high percentages of of calls for 1216 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,720 these uh 1217 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:54,950 in these locations. 1218 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,200 With respect to property crime, we saw a 1219 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,359 1% increase in property crime or 1220 00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:01,520 approximately 19 file diff difference 1221 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,280 relative to 2024. Uh driven uh by about 1222 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,720 a 232% increase in mischief. So about a 1223 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,160 44 file difference. We saw a drop in 1224 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,160 break and enters and petty offenses as 1225 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,800 well as theft of bike and shoplifting uh 1226 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,390 comparative to the 2024 year. 1227 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,559 Again, with the violent crime as in the 1228 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,240 property crime, the same sort of areas 1229 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:27,760 that are being highlighted here as far 1230 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,359 as the majority of calls for service 1231 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:32,720 uh with respect to the Controlled drugs 1232 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,559 and substance act in the in the third 1233 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,920 quarter of uh of the 2025 2026 fiscal 1234 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,680 year, there was an 83% or 25 uh 20 file 1235 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,119 increase in drug trafficking files 1236 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,040 relative to the previous fiscal year. 1237 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,800 This increase was attributable to 1238 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,800 enforcement initiatives rather than a 1239 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,400 rise in the incidence of drug 1240 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,800 trafficking. uh we did see a drop in 1241 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,400 drug possession which has always been 1242 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,559 our focus within the detachment and 1243 00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:57,920 especially when we have uh 1244 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,680 decriminalization that uh that has 1245 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,240 expired. Uh I want to relay uh my 1246 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,839 thoughts as a commander is that our 1247 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:07,680 focus is not going to be shifting. It's 1248 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,839 going to be on the serious uh crimes 1249 00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:11,599 when it comes to associated to drugs 1250 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,680 such as drug trafficking and drug uh uh 1251 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,720 production. The 83% increase that we're 1252 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:21,119 seeing uh largely is attributable to uh 1253 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,599 uh a transfer of an individual that came 1254 00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,079 into our detachment who has a very keen 1255 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,720 sense of eye and sense of smell for uh 1256 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,359 for these type of activities and has uh 1257 00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:33,520 been made quite an impact actually 1258 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,160 within uh the downtown court area as 1259 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,280 well as the surrounding areas. We've 1260 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,720 executed a number of search warrants. So 1261 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,640 we're very uh thankful to have this 1262 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:41,839 person with his knowledge and his 1263 00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:43,599 experience to bring in to add on to the 1264 00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,599 existing that we already have. So this 1265 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,359 is the benefits of of having that 1266 00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:49,599 individual. 1267 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,150 >> Uh with respect to traffic, we've uh saw 1268 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:52,160 » Uh with respect to traffic, we've uh saw 1269 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,280 a 475% increase in dangerous uh driving 1270 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,200 or a 19 file uh difference with that. Uh 1271 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,119 now I don't actually have numbers to 1272 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,200 support if those were just calls that 1273 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,160 were uh that uh we responded to or if 1274 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,480 that also led to charges. I am curious 1275 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,079 about the impact as far as what we're 1276 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:12,319 making in terms of impaired driving. We 1277 00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:14,160 do have a couple members within our 1278 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,040 detachment uh that uh receive uh 1279 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,200 recognition every year for the amount of 1280 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680 impaired uh uh drivers that they've 1281 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,240 removed from the roadway. Um and we just 1282 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,079 got a recent transfer in which he's also 1283 00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:27,760 been celebrated for the same stuff. So, 1284 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,599 we're um I I think when it comes to 1285 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,000 traffic uh offenses, we're we're getting 1286 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,000 better uh at it in terms of our uh 1287 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,520 proactive enforcement. uh we make it a a 1288 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,400 an annual priority uh to have our 1289 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,079 watches uh commit to uh stopping traffic 1290 00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,000 violators as opposed to just responding 1291 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,160 calls and being proactively on the road. 1292 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,559 We're also seeing an introduction of uh 1293 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,160 a new traffic member that's going to be 1294 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,640 coming from the Siri uh detachment. Uh 1295 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,520 so we will be able to have uh three in 1296 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,160 our uh fourman unit uh operational 1297 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400 hopefully within the next 90 to 120 1298 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,640 days. So, it will even improve our our 1299 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,710 traffic uh uh numbers. 1300 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,280 » That is not mine. Uh I'm more than happy 1301 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680 to take confusing questions regarding 1302 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,520 the information that's been provided in 1303 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,480 front of you as opposed to the 1304 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,800 information that I presented on. Um 1305 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,640 three things that I just wanted to to 1306 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,280 get out there uh ahead of any sort of 1307 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,040 questions is some of the events that we 1308 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,480 uh that we did this uh this past 1309 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,800 quarter. Uh I felt that we were fairly 1310 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,599 impactful in terms of uh our community 1311 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:35,040 uh involvement. Uh we hosted our haunted 1312 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,920 cells event uh back in October uh that 1313 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,319 saw over 900 plus people visit our 1314 00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:42,079 detachment uh throughout the course of 1315 00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,720 the three-hour period. Uh this was also 1316 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,200 in part and parcel of trying to uh raise 1317 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,280 awareness and funds for some of our uh 1318 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,119 community partners such as our local 1319 00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,359 search and rescue. Uh we were able to 1320 00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:56,800 raise over $3,600 in funds for uh uh 1321 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,800 search and rescue and approximately 1322 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,240 $1,300 in food donations for uh uh the 1323 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,240 Salvation Army that was also a community 1324 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,079 partner on this whole thing. Uh the 1325 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,079 feedback on this particular event has 1326 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:11,760 been wildly uh uh positive. Um I 1327 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,200 personally greeted every person that 1328 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,119 came into the into the cells on that 1329 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,359 night and uh had conversations and 1330 00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:19,680 dialogue with them. I was amazed by the 1331 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,760 uh number of First Canadians that uh 1332 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,079 that were coming through uh the the 1333 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:26,160 conversations uh that we discussed where 1334 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,240 they were um mystified by the fact that 1335 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,800 police would do something like this 1336 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,400 considering from some of the countries 1337 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,800 that they come from originally. Uh they 1338 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960 have a very different take on on police 1339 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,440 officers. Uh some come from more 1340 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,599 authoritative uh regions where they 1341 00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:45,280 don't see this side of policing. So it 1342 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,839 was it was rewarding in that sense. also 1343 00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:50,000 uh our youth uh that managed to come 1344 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,400 through uh high-risisk youth that uh uh 1345 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,040 they were laughing and and sharing some 1346 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,040 of the stories that they may have had in 1347 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,720 those particular cells with their 1348 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,040 friends. But the the commentary that 1349 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,960 I've been able to receive from probation 1350 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,559 as well as from mental health 1351 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,280 professionals uh have said that uh they 1352 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,440 were talking about this weeks after in 1353 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,200 terms of the positive impact that that 1354 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,599 this had as far as how cool uh such an 1355 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,440 event was hosted and they're looking 1356 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,440 forward to doing it next year. Don't 1357 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,040 know if that's going to happen. I might 1358 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,599 need to convince uh higherups to uh to 1359 00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:25,119 allow us to do something like this 1360 00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,839 again. Uh but uh both from an attachment 1361 00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:29,440 perspective and a community side, we saw 1362 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,079 an incredible amount of smiles and uh 1363 00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:33,680 and people appreciating the efforts that 1364 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,920 were put forward and just a kudos to my 1365 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,440 staff for making the effort because it 1366 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,040 was all in volunteer time that they did 1367 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,880 this and they're all volunteers that 1368 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,040 participated in it. Uh on top of that, 1369 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,040 we had our uh uh we had the Wounded 1370 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200 Warriors uh charity hockey game. While 1371 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,119 the RCMP doesn't uh put this on itself, 1372 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,119 uh Sergeant Rob Brennan takes a leading 1373 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:54,880 role in both planning and organizing 1374 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,280 this event. This is very personal to him 1375 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,280 uh as a as a first responder to raise 1376 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,599 awareness and funds. Uh the game against 1377 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:03,280 the Glacier Kings brought in over 1378 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,040 approximately $40,000 in funds uh for uh 1379 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,920 uh to uh to their cause uh and a 1380 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,800 combined total of 80,000 uh towards uh 1381 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,160 their initiative. Uh in addition to uh 1382 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,960 to that hockey game, uh myself and uh 1383 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,040 members in the detachment hosted a 1384 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,280 charity hockey game with the U15 North 1385 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,839 Island Tier 1 uh Bears uh minor hockey 1386 00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,319 team in which they played against our 1387 00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:31,040 detachment recreation team. Uh also a 1388 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,400 toy drive to raise toys for uh for uh 1389 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,880 persons uh in and families in need uh 1390 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,960 during the holiday season. So it was a 1391 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,119 well attended event and enjoyed by uh by 1392 00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:43,119 all the kids that went to it as well. 1393 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,280 But now I'll defer to to questions from 1394 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,440 the floor after I pump my own tires. So 1395 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,670 >> Sure. Well, well, since you uh I know I 1396 00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:49,680 » Sure. Well, well, since you uh I know I 1397 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,480 got a couple of of uh questions here um 1398 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,079 waiting, but since you were meandering 1399 00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,720 off a little bit uh uh from the uh the 1400 00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:58,559 presentation, maybe the first question 1401 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,480 I'll I'll ask about uh just because 1402 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,680 there's a very recent article on the uh 1403 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,880 potential new detachment uh building and 1404 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,599 um and it's been something that has been 1405 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:10,960 uh talked about since I've been on 1406 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,839 council the last 11 years and I know 1407 00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:15,440 we're actually supposed to do a tour of 1408 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,799 North Cow in um Uh, I was supposed to go 1409 00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:20,319 there about a week or two ago and then 1410 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:21,680 realized the other mayors weren't 1411 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,680 invited, so we got them invited. So, 1412 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,599 we're all going to be going down there. 1413 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,160 Um, cuz they've got a fairly similar 1414 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,880 size um uh area. Um, but uh the time 1415 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,280 that I've been on council, the the the 1416 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,839 holdup seems to be waiting for reports 1417 00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:40,559 and things from sort of the higher ups 1418 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,480 in the RCMP. And so just wondering if 1419 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,119 those are um 1420 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,990 >> I I'd say that uh generating the 1421 00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:48,000 » I I'd say that uh generating the 1422 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,839 conversation and getting everyone in the 1423 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:52,400 same room to uh understand what we're 1424 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,000 asking for and what we're looking for 1425 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,760 and uh the demonstrated interest from 1426 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,520 all the contributing municipal partners 1427 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,359 I think is key before we start 1428 00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:01,920 initiating. It started off with the KFN 1429 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,000 with their letter of support. I I didn't 1430 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,599 make it a secret as far as that was my 1431 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:08,480 intention with all the municipal uh 1432 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,559 councils here and I'm just starting to 1433 00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:12,400 get my legs underneath me right now that 1434 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,079 I'm going to make this a big push and 1435 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,480 priority for this particular year uh now 1436 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,319 that I have some free time to to pursue 1437 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,640 it. Uh I had a a collaborative 1438 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,760 discussion with the village of 1439 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,960 Cumberland that while they're not a 1440 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,280 contributing mimal partner, they will be 1441 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,040 in the near future and someone that 1442 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,880 should probably have some dialogue to it 1443 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,880 as far as getting a letter of support. 1444 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,760 My focus has always been to have a 1445 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,440 conversation both with the town of Komox 1446 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,880 and the city of Courtney and bring 1447 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,559 people in that room and discuss what our 1448 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,400 intentions are going to be, formalize it 1449 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,559 and then put it towards uh the RCMP as 1450 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:44,640 well as the public safety minister. Uh 1451 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,280 and then we would look at maybe again uh 1452 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,680 at a later time forming a committee to 1453 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,000 generate to show demonstrate that that 1454 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,680 seriousness and interest in in build. 1455 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,960 And I think once we start looking 1456 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,200 towards forming that that committee, 1457 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,839 then the people from my senior ranks 1458 00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:01,920 will start to get involved and tell you 1459 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,160 what steps are needed, what options are 1460 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,839 available to you and what we can start 1461 00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:07,280 doing to plan for that that new 1462 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,160 detachment. 1463 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,510 >> Okay. Excellent. Yeah, because I know 1464 00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:09,520 » Okay. Excellent. Yeah, because I know 1465 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,839 it's been it feels like from my side 1466 00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:13,680 that it we've been asking, but we've 1467 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,280 been kind of just waiting on on some of 1468 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,520 these studying stuff. But um the the 1469 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,440 second question I had was just since 1470 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,440 we're doing this tour, it may be uh a 1471 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,640 potential I'm not sure if you'd be 1472 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,160 interested in coming along, but 1473 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,069 >> yeah, I I I would love to to go down to 1474 00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:26,079 » yeah, I I I would love to to go down to 1475 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:28,160 uh to Duncan. Uh Staff Sergeant Beard is 1476 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,920 a great commander there, and I'm sure 1477 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,839 he'd be more than hospitable to to have 1478 00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:34,079 us there. Uh, one thing I did fail to 1479 00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:35,440 mention, sorry, I know we talked about 1480 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,960 the new detachment. There was also a 1481 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,240 news release on the uh, uh, mobile 1482 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,720 integrated uh, crisis response uh, unit 1483 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,760 or the microcar or our car 64 uh, which 1484 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,119 has been uh, it came at the uh, in 1485 00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,200 September. We uh we initiated the the 1486 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,640 pilot initiative uh and uh we decided to 1487 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,559 finally formally announce it yesterday 1488 00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,280 and the impact so far for the past 1489 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,040 several months has been really positive 1490 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,839 within the community uh as far as uh 1491 00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:04,880 what we're seeing in terms of 1492 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,119 relationship building and usage. 1493 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,030 >> Awesome. No, really appreciate that. Uh 1494 00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:09,040 » Awesome. No, really appreciate that. Uh 1495 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,359 Mr. Carbid, um I know there's questions 1496 00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:13,359 from elected officials, so I'll be very 1497 00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:16,960 quick. Uh um Island Health staff had 1498 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,200 reached out. uh council had asked for a 1499 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,280 presentation about the outcomes of that 1500 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,559 and so uh Leslie Howy from Island Health 1501 00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,960 and I think with Inspector Mercer there 1502 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,480 is an expectation from council to 1503 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,079 actually have a presentation on the 1504 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:32,160 outcomes of that pilot. So stay tuned. 1505 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,440 We'll try and do that as quick as 1506 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,400 possible. 1507 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,829 >> Fantastic. Really appreciate it. Uh 1508 00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:35,839 » Fantastic. Really appreciate it. Uh 1509 00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:37,839 thanks council for humoring me and I'll 1510 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:39,680 pass over to councelor Hillian. 1511 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,589 >> Thanks mayor and thanks for being here 1512 00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:41,599 » Thanks mayor and thanks for being here 1513 00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,520 inspector. Congratulations on your 1514 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,200 Halloween event. And I did drive by the 1515 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,040 detachment that night and wondered what 1516 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,599 was going on. But uh I spent quite a bit 1517 00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,119 of time in those cells in my former 1518 00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,359 life. So I had no wish to come and visit 1519 00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:55,920 and see. Um I did want to ask two two 1520 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,720 questions. Uh one related to your stats. 1521 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,319 Um 1522 01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:02,400 and I just wanted to clarify when we see 1523 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,079 a large increase uh um say breaches for 1524 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:10,079 example, do those represent distinct 1525 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:13,280 um files or actual counts? 1526 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,880 The point I'm getting at is you could 1527 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,559 have an individual who has multiple 1528 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:17,200 counts, 1529 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:17,510 >> right? 1530 01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:17,520 » right? 1531 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,190 >> And [snorts] so a large number, it may 1532 01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:19,200 » And [snorts] so a large number, it may 1533 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,119 not reflect that number of people, it 1534 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,839 may somebody who's been on a spree or 1535 01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:26,400 whatever would inflate those numbers. 1536 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,390 >> Yeah, it it's a great question and let 1537 01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:28,400 » Yeah, it it's a great question and let 1538 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,040 me bring that back to both my uh records 1539 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,440 person and my analyst to see if the data 1540 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,040 is drawn specifically based on the 1541 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,119 number of charges or actual identified 1542 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:38,480 persons that are being charged 1543 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,359 separately. 1544 01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:41,750 >> Thanks. Um, the other thing I wanted to 1545 01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:41,760 » Thanks. Um, the other thing I wanted to 1546 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,839 ask about and and I wanted to thank you 1547 01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:47,599 for your efforts in enforcement on Back 1548 01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:50,319 Road, which uh hopefully has eased off 1549 01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:52,799 now that the Dyke Road is open again and 1550 01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:54,640 there isn't the same pressure. But I 1551 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,480 just wondered if your members are 1552 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,839 noticing any difference um related to 1553 01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:02,240 the lower speed limits in residential 1554 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,760 neighborhoods that have come into effect 1555 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,359 in the last few months. Crony, 1556 01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:07,190 >> I I I think when when it was first 1557 01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:07,200 » I I I think when when it was first 1558 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,359 introduced as well as the uh 1559 01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:12,240 trafficcoming uh efforts, we we were 1560 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,599 getting feedback from the community 1561 01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:16,720 mostly in terms of reporting persons 1562 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,319 that are violating those those or 1563 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,240 believe to be violating those violations 1564 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,559 or that aren't respecting the uh the 1565 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,400 calming uh pattern that's putting in 1566 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,079 there. uh back road has always been a a 1567 01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,079 point of interest of me uh when when I 1568 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:31,760 first came here as I' I've spoken to 1569 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,599 before. I haven't had anything come up 1570 01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,200 to my attention in the recent months. 1571 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,799 That's not to say that the existing 1572 01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:39,119 problems still don't happen or if the 1573 01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:40,960 current efforts are making a difference. 1574 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,280 Uh we have continued to increase our 1575 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,200 patrols within that area. Nothing has 1576 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,680 been reported up to me as far as uh 1577 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,440 additional complaints. Uh but uh yeah, I 1578 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,440 think it was certainly more noticeable 1579 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,680 during the point where uh certain roads 1580 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,280 were closed down and detourred and the 1581 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,319 amount of traffic that was being down 1582 01:01:58,319 --> 01:01:59,920 there. So it's not surprising that with 1583 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,160 roads being opened up on Comox Avenue 1584 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,040 and such that probably the uh the amount 1585 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,720 of uh traffic that was going through 1586 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,240 there has probably dissipated a little 1587 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,520 bit. 1588 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,630 >> Yeah. All right. Thanks, Councelor and 1589 01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:12,640 » Yeah. All right. Thanks, Councelor and 1590 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,760 Councelor Cole Hamilton. 1591 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,910 >> Yeah, thanks Marin. thanks for uh 1592 01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:15,920 » Yeah, thanks Marin. thanks for uh 1593 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,880 sharing these details about about uh the 1594 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,680 community with us. I I um I wanted to go 1595 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,480 to the breach um question. I think every 1596 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,720 time we all have to kind of mentally 1597 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,839 remove that from the stats to some 1598 01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:32,480 degree because uh the breach all occurs 1599 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,839 at the courthouse and it's not so much a 1600 01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:37,359 crime in the way that most people think 1601 01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:40,319 of crime. It's a it's um I don't know 1602 01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:41,760 it's a state of someone being in a 1603 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,599 violation of the law and it's an 1604 01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,440 administrative part of the the legal 1605 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,760 system. Would it be possible in in 1606 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,119 future would it make sense to to remove 1607 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:53,760 the produce of figures for us that 1608 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,880 removed the breach aspect and the 1609 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,119 courthouse as a location given that 1610 01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:00,880 they're qualitatively different than 1611 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,400 everything else we're talking about. And 1612 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,400 when there's a you know a big increase 1613 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,400 in the breach it it excuse the figures 1614 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,160 and as an example I think that there was 1615 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,720 a 2% reduction in total calls last year 1616 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,109 >> right 1617 01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:13,119 » right 1618 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,029 >> if you take remove breach from that then 1619 01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:15,039 » if you take remove breach from that then 1620 01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:18,480 it's four almost 5% reduction which is a 1621 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,280 fair difference 1622 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,789 >> I was just having a conversation with my 1623 01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:20,799 » I was just having a conversation with my 1624 01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:23,520 analyst today as far as what do we want 1625 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,400 the quarterly reports to look like 1626 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,000 moving forward and that and I think 1627 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,160 that's a conversation that I can have 1628 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,079 through the CEOs and through councils as 1629 01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:33,119 far as what you would like to see 1630 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,039 represented in that data. It's not 1631 01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:36,640 playing funny with the numbers, but I 1632 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,039 agree with you. I think that uh if there 1633 01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:41,599 is a potential impact as far as the 1634 01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:44,880 overall uh general feeling of safety uh 1635 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,799 in a in a community that something like 1636 01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:49,039 this might uh lead it in a in a 1637 01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:51,280 different direction. So, uh I think 1638 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,520 separating it from it is maybe something 1639 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,160 prudent to ask. And I can I can show uh 1640 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,400 the results of one report versus another 1641 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,000 uh on that too just to show the 1642 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,039 distinctive difference if that's 1643 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:02,400 something that council wishes for the 1644 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,680 future. 1645 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,750 >> That would be great. Mayor, can I just 1646 01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:05,760 » That would be great. Mayor, can I just 1647 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,839 follow up? Yeah, brief followup. I was 1648 01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:09,359 saying if if that is the case and that 1649 01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:10,799 it really does make sense. They're 1650 01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:12,480 qualitatively just different kinds of 1651 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,599 things um than community sort of uh law 1652 01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,000 enforcement. And I'm looking at the uh 1653 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,520 the top 10 categories of of file types. 1654 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,839 And if one removes breach as we're just 1655 01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:26,559 discussing then there's one that 1656 01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:28,559 increased which was traffic incidents 1657 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:32,240 and councelor Helian's questions like 1658 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,319 kind of illuminated some of that but 1659 01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:37,119 every other metric uh eight of them went 1660 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:39,039 down in one state the same and I think a 1661 01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:41,599 lot of them seem to speak to um 1662 01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:43,200 successfully addressing people's 1663 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,960 concerns about street disorder. I know 1664 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,640 that's something you've been working on. 1665 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,799 Things like unwanted person being down 1666 01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:51,200 11%, check well being down 11%, 1667 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,920 disturbance down 5%, suspicious 1668 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,599 circumstances down 4%, uh theft is down, 1669 01:04:57,599 --> 01:04:59,440 and then assisting other services, which 1670 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,559 I imagine was a function of of overdoses 1671 01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:06,000 and other um crisis. It it does seem to 1672 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,319 speak to um a consistent trend in 1673 01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:12,799 managing those types of uh street 1674 01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:14,400 disorder that people found challenging. 1675 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,950 >> It represents a positive trend. Whether 1676 01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:16,960 » It represents a positive trend. Whether 1677 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,160 it consistently 1678 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,069 >> keeps going down in that direction is is 1679 01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:20,079 » keeps going down in that direction is is 1680 01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:21,440 always something that we we kind of 1681 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,559 monitor for the next quarter. And and uh 1682 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:25,760 I think 1683 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,190 >> when we look at the total calls for 1684 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:27,200 » when we look at the total calls for 1685 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,599 service for Courtney, we have seen less 1686 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:31,440 calls for service this year than in the 1687 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,119 previous year. Um and but this quarter 1688 01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:38,000 in of itself, the third quarter uh was 1689 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,640 higher in some in some regards. So it it 1690 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,319 it goes up and down and it fluctuates. 1691 01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:44,799 And I and I optimistically am cautious 1692 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:46,799 on on these trends when we see that. I 1693 01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:48,480 mean it's certainly rewarding to see 1694 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,799 those key categories that are typically 1695 01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:52,720 problematic and and dominate a lot of 1696 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,319 our calls for service start to trend 1697 01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:56,480 down uh in that area. And then we always 1698 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,079 look to how we can pat ourselves on the 1699 01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:00,319 back as to how that you know what caused 1700 01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:02,079 that and whether it was you know some 1701 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:03,839 sort of enforcement change or some sort 1702 01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:05,680 of police strategy or something else 1703 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,760 that that might have been a driver. So 1704 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,440 uh I I think it's a relevant point and 1705 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,039 something that uh you know hopefully 1706 01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:13,760 we'll see in the next the final quarter 1707 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,599 uh the same sort of drop in it when we 1708 01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:17,119 go from fourth quarter to third quarter 1709 01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:17,839 as well. Well, 1710 01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:19,349 >> it's an encouraging trend. It's good to 1711 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:19,359 » it's an encouraging trend. It's good to 1712 01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:21,039 hear that you're actively analyzing 1713 01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:23,359 what's causing that and so as to 1714 01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:26,319 continue it. Yeah. Thanks very much. 1715 01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:28,150 >> Thanks very much, uh, Councelor Cole 1716 01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:28,160 » Thanks very much, uh, Councelor Cole 1717 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,920 Hamilton and Council Moore. 1718 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,349 >> Great. Thanks, Mayor. I have a couple 1719 01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:31,359 » Great. Thanks, Mayor. I have a couple 1720 01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:32,880 questions. We'll see if I can fit them 1721 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,119 all in. Um, thanks so much for the 1722 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:37,440 report. Um, so I noted that there were 1723 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,960 36 calls at a private residence. Um, are 1724 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,520 you able to say whether is that a mental 1725 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,079 health related situation or 1726 01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:47,670 >> maybe you're not able to share too much? 1727 01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:47,680 » maybe you're not able to share too much? 1728 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,230 >> I I can't share too much about that. Um, 1729 01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:50,240 » I I can't share too much about that. Um, 1730 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,160 Cumberland had a very similar type of 1731 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,599 thing where there was like an inflated 1732 01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:55,280 call volume around a particular 1733 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,760 residence and that was uh a youth 1734 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,760 related thing. It wasn't a care home or 1735 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,240 anything, but it was just sometimes we 1736 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,319 find that we get called to events that 1737 01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:06,480 don't necessarily require police 1738 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,039 attendance, right? And uh you know I 1739 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:10,720 know in in in a different jurisdiction 1740 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,640 we get called there's a residence that 1741 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,200 it shows like it it spiked up uh there 1742 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,119 but that was more health related because 1743 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:21,200 EHS requires us to stage to go into that 1744 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,359 house. It's not really a police matter 1745 01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:25,200 right but we're there just to keep the 1746 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,920 peace. So, I mean there is that that 1747 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,839 element to it and I can look at this 1748 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:32,240 particular residence council MREN and 1749 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,640 get back to you on it if it is again I 1750 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,640 don't have to reveal the the the details 1751 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,559 of it but I can tell you the context as 1752 01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:40,400 to which and why we're responding 1753 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,920 because when I do see specific 1754 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,240 residences like this that go up me as a 1755 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,480 commander and from a former operations 1756 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,720 per person is I don't like seeing that. 1757 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,119 I don't like seeing why we're spending a 1758 01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:52,559 considerable amount of police resources 1759 01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:54,240 on one particular residence and I try 1760 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,079 and look at ways to mitigate that 1761 01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:57,200 whether it's to form better 1762 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,720 relationships with the appropriate 1763 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,799 agency or community supports that are 1764 01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:03,039 better to step in or have some dialogue 1765 01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:05,039 with those managers to say like this 1766 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:06,720 isn't working for us. We can't always 1767 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,720 just be there because you guys like to 1768 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,039 have us in your back pocket, right? So, 1769 01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:12,640 uh and it doesn't do anything to mend 1770 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,160 any relationships with that person in 1771 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,680 the house either if they see the police 1772 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,000 behind them too. So, uh, I think it's a 1773 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,759 point of interest and and one that I can 1774 01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:21,120 bring back and and probably get a 1775 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,799 better, uh, some better information for 1776 01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:23,600 you on. 1777 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,269 >> Yeah. No, I mean, I know it's come up in 1778 01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:25,279 » Yeah. No, I mean, I know it's come up in 1779 01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:26,960 the past where we've had certain 1780 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,560 locations that have had a lot of calls 1781 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,600 and so I was happy to see that, um, the 1782 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,279 announcement around the mobile 1783 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:37,120 integrated crisis response unit. Um 1784 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,600 uh and yeah, you know, not to put a 1785 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,920 downer on it, but on social media there 1786 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,640 there were some comments kind of making 1787 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,480 it sound like it's fluff or it's not 1788 01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:48,480 meaningful because these kinds of 1789 01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:51,520 programs don't have the quantitative or 1790 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,520 sorry the the um you know the numbers 1791 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,839 backing them. They're experiences that 1792 01:08:57,839 --> 01:08:59,839 create change and that happens over 1793 01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:04,319 time. Um but I think those of us who you 1794 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:08,159 know have worked in the field of u 1795 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:10,640 working with these complex issues you 1796 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,799 know that those changes do often happen 1797 01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:15,679 and it comes from relationship which is 1798 01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:17,920 a lot of what that program is all about. 1799 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,920 So in some of our early reporting that 1800 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,520 we were seeing and this is why we talk 1801 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,440 about how trends go up and down and we 1802 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,359 have to be cautiously optimistic is that 1803 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:27,040 what we were seeing within the first 1804 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,520 month and a bit of uh of mic her 1805 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,400 introduced to uh to to Courtney we were 1806 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,319 seeing a down tick in in violence 1807 01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:37,040 related calls for service. I'm getting 1808 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,960 excited thinking like, hey, is this 1809 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,719 maybe because people are getting the 1810 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:41,920 appropriate supports? They're getting 1811 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,679 connected to their uh their treatment 1812 01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:45,440 teams. We're introducing something early 1813 01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:46,960 on so that they're not spiking or 1814 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,120 escalating to a point of crisis where 1815 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,359 someone gets hurt or harmed, right? Uh 1816 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:53,759 we did see that number go up a little 1817 01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:55,920 bit up again, but then again, it started 1818 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,640 to go down. So, I mean, is it a driving 1819 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,960 uh you know, reason as to why? No. But I 1820 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,760 mean I always look at it if that unit 1821 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,239 wasn't available the data would read 1822 01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,960 differently right and we know that from 1823 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,040 our experiences dealing when with people 1824 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,960 in that have mental health crisis 1825 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,640 sometimes they escalate to a point where 1826 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,159 violence is involved right and that's 1827 01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:18,640 when we get get uh get incorporated into 1828 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,080 the problem so uh I I think I feel more 1829 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,280 assured knowing that I have a trained 1830 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,760 registered psychiatric nurse that has 1831 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,840 the ability to assess people rather than 1832 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,520 one of my officers on the street and 1833 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,120 that is just it's really rewarding to 1834 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,800 have that opportunity right now. 1835 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,830 >> Yeah. No, I'm just um I'm hoping that um 1836 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:37,840 » Yeah. No, I'm just um I'm hoping that um 1837 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,440 the powers at Bweather through Island 1838 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:43,520 Health and um and your um organization 1839 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,920 are able to tease out some of that 1840 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,199 because I I believe that that that data 1841 01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:51,520 is is there, but it's just harder to 1842 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,120 kind of tease it out. It's not like we 1843 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,000 can do a report of oh we paved this many 1844 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000 we repaved you know this many kilometers 1845 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,719 of road like those kind of um impacts 1846 01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:04,000 are just not easy to measure but um yeah 1847 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,920 so I hope people will just be patient 1848 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,800 and and allow this program to you know 1849 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,159 to to flourish and 1850 01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:10,709 >> for sure 1851 01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:10,719 » for sure 1852 01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:15,030 >> and uh continue on but uh oh one last 1853 01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:15,040 » and uh continue on but uh oh one last 1854 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,159 question was around I thought we had had 1855 01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:21,280 in our charts previously 1856 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,360 um I don't know if it was under domestic 1857 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,520 um incidents or intimate partner 1858 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,199 violence. I thought we had that at one 1859 01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:31,760 point. Um I was just curious around 1860 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,480 that. I know um what the trends that 1861 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:38,560 we're seeing just because sadly we've 1862 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,120 had, you know, very high-profile 1863 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,040 incident with um 1864 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,430 >> with a woman who was killed by a partner 1865 01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:45,440 » with a woman who was killed by a partner 1866 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:47,600 who had done all the right things. And 1867 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,120 so it was just it's always something 1868 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,239 that's on my mind in terms of um 1869 01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:54,560 primarily women experiencing violence 1870 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,280 and 1871 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,070 >> I think I think that's a a valid thing 1872 01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:58,080 » I think I think that's a a valid thing 1873 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,199 to have in in reports. Uh, I always find 1874 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,120 that when it comes to sexual offenses 1875 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,679 and intimate violence and that that they 1876 01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:07,120 need to be they have to have their 1877 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,800 special category represented in some 1878 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,480 sort of reporting because 1879 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:11,910 >> those are the ones like you said that 1880 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:11,920 » those are the ones like you said that 1881 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,080 always catch the headlines that always 1882 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,000 you always wonder what could have been 1883 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,600 done, where was the trends, what were 1884 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,480 police doing and uh we do have a special 1885 01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:23,120 victim's unit that focus primarily on 1886 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,080 those type of uh offenses. So I think uh 1887 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,440 moving forward that's something that I 1888 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:29,040 can bring to my analyst and then tease 1889 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,960 that out uh so that it's something for 1890 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,640 you guys to consume and ask questions on 1891 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,159 later as well. 1892 01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:36,390 >> Great. Thank you. 1893 01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:36,400 » Great. Thank you. 1894 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,470 >> Excellent. Thanks very much uh councelor 1895 01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:38,480 » Excellent. Thanks very much uh councelor 1896 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,560 MREN and uh I don't see any further 1897 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,080 questions. Um oh uh Mr. Carver 1898 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,440 thank you through the mayor. I wanted 1899 01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:46,880 the our elected officials to be able to 1900 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,199 answer questions. I I can say that uh to 1901 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,600 your to your um comments, councelor Cole 1902 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,520 Hamilton, I've spoken with Inspector 1903 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,159 Mercer about breach. Uh and I can let 1904 01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:58,480 council know that all of the local 1905 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,880 governments on Vancost provincial 1906 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,120 courouses are are questioning this 1907 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,000 statistic. It does show up in the uh 1908 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,679 crime severity index report. Um so the 1909 01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:12,080 uh city manager of Duncan uh Port 1910 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,920 Alurnie and myself have talked about 1911 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,760 this. We've had a roundabout 1912 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,199 conversation in Campbell River as well. 1913 01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:20,960 It is I agree uh a special category and 1914 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,920 when it's not factored into our uh stats 1915 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,840 there are very good news and the work 1916 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,560 that our uh RCMP partners are doing is 1917 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,360 very good. So I I actually feel that 1918 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,120 like this is something that needs 1919 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,960 attention because it is a special 1920 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,199 category. I 100% agree and talked to 1921 01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:38,800 Inspector Mercer about that and I'm glad 1922 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,640 that he's pulling that statistic out. 1923 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,280 It's just when you look at that report, 1924 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,320 that provincial index, it it tells a 1925 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,000 story that is not a complete one. So, I 1926 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,679 think we need to remain focused on that. 1927 01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:50,719 And thank you for raising that, 1928 01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:53,440 counselor. 1929 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,590 >> Yeah. And and also there's a a financial 1930 01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:55,600 » Yeah. And and also there's a a financial 1931 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:56,960 implication there when we're talking 1932 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,800 about, you know, Cumberland paying more 1933 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,280 and Komox and city of Courtney. And this 1934 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,960 is something that, you know, is uh quite 1935 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,960 specifically provincial courthouse. So, 1936 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,679 uh um oh pass it over to council. 1937 01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:13,350 >> Yeah, thanks Mayor. Well, I generally 1938 01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:13,360 » Yeah, thanks Mayor. Well, I generally 1939 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,560 agree with uh with that approach. Um I 1940 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,400 think uh we shouldn't lose sight of the 1941 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,920 fact that um breaches are are valuable 1942 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,560 work that our police officers do and and 1943 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,640 this these reports are partly a 1944 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,840 reflection of of police work. Um, 1945 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,239 sometimes it's interesting to note the 1946 01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,480 distinction between breaches that 1947 01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:37,199 involve minor offenders, um, people who 1948 01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:38,880 maybe didn't show up for an appointment 1949 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,960 and and more significant offenders who 1950 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,760 may have violated a no contact order, 1951 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,600 um, with a victim or any number of 1952 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,960 things. So um I would suggest rather 1953 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,960 than being entirely removed from the 1954 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,600 report, it simply be categorized 1955 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,520 separately as a separate issue to 1956 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,120 reflect the work that police are doing 1957 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,120 without necessarily being a reflection 1958 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,679 of uh of crime in the community. I would 1959 01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:03,280 I would ask that that too just for the 1960 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,880 fact that there is a degree like you 1961 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,320 said a degree of work that can't be 1962 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,880 minimized on stuff like this because it 1963 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,480 is essentially hours that are being 1964 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:12,239 committed elsewhere for while it may be 1965 01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:14,000 an administr administrative offense 1966 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,920 there's leg work and and disclosure that 1967 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,199 needs to be done with it as well. 1968 01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:18,870 >> Yeah. And and I that's how I interpreted 1969 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:18,880 » Yeah. And and I that's how I interpreted 1970 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,560 what councelor Cole Hamilton meant but 1971 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:21,760 I'll pass back to him. 1972 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,030 >> Yeah. Thanks very much and I appreciate 1973 01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:23,040 » Yeah. Thanks very much and I appreciate 1974 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,560 the clarification. I certainly wouldn't 1975 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,239 want to lose track of those figures 1976 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,560 because as was being said, it's a an 1977 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,560 important metric of how police time is 1978 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,480 being used and because we happen to have 1979 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:34,000 a courthouse here, which other 1980 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,719 communities don't. We pay for a certain 1981 01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:38,560 amount of police resources that are used 1982 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,199 for um the administration of the court 1983 01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:42,640 system rather than dealing with what 1984 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,360 most people think about as uh crime in 1985 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,000 our community. Uh so useful to have them 1986 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,239 but useful to be able to look at sort of 1987 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,960 true community based stats that don't uh 1988 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,040 include them. Yeah. Thanks. 1989 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,350 >> Thanks for that clarification. Um with 1990 01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:57,360 » Thanks for that clarification. Um with 1991 01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,960 that uh I think we can accept the uh 1992 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,960 report unanimously uh by council and um 1993 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,040 really appreciate uh the the update 1994 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:07,920 today. 1995 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,270 >> Oh sure. 1996 01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:09,280 » Oh sure. 1997 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:09,590 >> Yeah. 1998 01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:09,600 » Yeah. 1999 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,669 >> You can ask if you want. 2000 01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:11,679 » You can ask if you want. 2001 01:16:11,679 --> 01:16:13,679 Uh I was I was wondering given that 2002 01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:15,280 there there was mention by the mayor of 2003 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,960 the uh you know the need for uh which 2004 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,120 you've been stating for a new uh 2005 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,320 division headquarters. Um one then 2006 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,320 there's a piece in the CBC today which 2007 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,320 discussing it. 2008 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,679 One thing that I haven't been able to 2009 01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:31,760 find out from asking people is what the 2010 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,520 typical funding formula is for the 2011 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,840 building of a new structure like that. 2012 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,600 uh is there some contribution by um is 2013 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,600 it E division green timbers? Is there a 2014 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,520 contribution by the province by the 2015 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,679 federal government by 2016 01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:48,870 >> and it was a very similar question that 2017 01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:48,880 » and it was a very similar question that 2018 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,000 was posed to me by the village of 2019 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,760 Cumberland as far as what can we expect 2020 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,080 in terms of you know a set standard 2021 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,480 contribution level to so that we can do 2022 01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:59,280 future planning. I think that's step 2023 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:00,640 four or five down the road. And while 2024 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,640 it's a very important step, it's getting 2025 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,040 the at the interest and the commitment 2026 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,719 factor and then the persons that are 2027 01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:08,880 able to present those options to you 2028 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,480 because it's a series of options. It's 2029 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:13,840 depending upon what you want for a 2030 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,640 detachment and what we agree on as far 2031 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,040 as a uh an effective policing 2032 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,719 detachment. Currently, we have an 2033 01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:21,920 integrated service where everyone's 2034 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,120 underneath one roof. So, that's 2035 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,040 provincial members as well as municipal 2036 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:29,360 members. I have a set belief and uh I 2037 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,280 truly do believe that our policing model 2038 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,600 that we have right now is beneficial to 2039 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,120 everyone to the city of Courtney to the 2040 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,280 town of Komox having everyone underneath 2041 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,480 one roof. There may be a consideration 2042 01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:42,480 that may not you might not want to go 2043 01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:44,560 that route and there's different options 2044 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,080 that are that that are potentially 2045 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,880 available before you depending on what 2046 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,800 route you want to want to go as it you 2047 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,560 know it's going to be your detachment 2048 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,960 right your build uh with whoever is 2049 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,440 contributing towards that the amount of 2050 01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:01,360 who prays what is something that will be 2051 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,960 decided in collaboration through the 2052 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,880 committee through OSB and through 2053 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,640 project management when they present 2054 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,960 those options to you and I I think the 2055 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,120 service delivery review that has been uh 2056 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,719 that is going down uh that is happening 2057 01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:14,719 in the background right now will help 2058 01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:16,560 set that foundation to move that 2059 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,440 conversation forward uh because it's 2060 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:20,880 long been standing that there are 2061 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,719 discrepancies as far as what community 2062 01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,400 feels that they should pay for policing 2063 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,040 and what percentage and I'm hoping that 2064 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,920 uh this report will present some data 2065 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,199 that will reflect what is currently 2066 01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,840 needed for adequate uh and and effective 2067 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,329 policing. Um that report should be ready 2068 01:18:39,329 --> 01:18:41,199 [clears throat] to present to council in 2069 01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:42,880 some fashion here in the next coming 2070 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,360 months. We set a diary date of April. 2071 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,440 Everything that I have right now is 2072 01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,440 indicating that it's on time. I think 2073 01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:52,080 that will also help build uh that 2074 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,679 discussion piece as far as the 2075 01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:55,520 contributions towards the detachment 2076 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,520 because you know whether it's going to 2077 01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,560 be Cumberland uh and Komox and and 2078 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,480 Courtney, you need to be able to 2079 01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:04,400 effectively plan through your taxes as 2080 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,440 far as what that uh what that portion is 2081 01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:08,640 going to be that you're going to have to 2082 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,520 fund, right? So, um I don't want to put 2083 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,040 the cart before the horse or speak out 2084 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,199 of turn. I think taking it in small 2085 01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,199 steps right now as far as demonstrating 2086 01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:19,520 that intent to build or that letter of 2087 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,520 support, then we can get that committee 2088 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,199 set up to answer those very important 2089 01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:25,920 questions that you're asking right now. 2090 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,430 >> Yeah. Um I mean I can I can I I 2091 01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:29,440 » Yeah. Um I mean I can I can I I 2092 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:30,640 understand everything you're saying. A 2093 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,239 lot of that makes sense and certainly 2094 01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:34,640 like the question of what this building 2095 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,640 should be and to me to some degree 2096 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,400 that's a question of how big the pie is, 2097 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,920 right? But I think one of the questions 2098 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,679 that local governments would need to 2099 01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:43,760 think about before signing off on a 2100 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,120 letter saying that something should be 2101 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,520 done um is what what portion of the cost 2102 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,440 we would be responsible for covering to 2103 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:53,040 make sure that you know we're doing our 2104 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,360 due diligence. We're thinking ahead 2105 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,750 >> um because these are significant sums 2106 01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:57,760 » um because these are significant sums 2107 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,560 and uh you know as municipalities we try 2108 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,000 to plan ahead to make sure we're ready 2109 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,640 for them. So right um probably 2110 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,229 >> the sooner the better and like you said 2111 01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:06,239 » the sooner the better and like you said 2112 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:07,920 it might be step four or five but I 2113 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,080 think perhaps providing a bit more 2114 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,679 information on what sort of range of 2115 01:20:11,679 --> 01:20:13,679 funding might be helpful 2116 01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:16,870 >> maybe up until that point uh if that's 2117 01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:16,880 » maybe up until that point uh if that's 2118 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,960 you know certainly a a critical 2119 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,640 consideration for for this council 2120 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,800 before they commit to a letter I can go 2121 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,520 back to uh division and and maybe get 2122 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,280 some clarification to give you a 2123 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,679 ballpark idea on something like that if 2124 01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:31,280 that if that's better served than just 2125 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,320 me ambiguously making statements here. 2126 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,800 Uh and then we'll we'll see what that 2127 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,640 might generate in terms of 2128 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,229 >> to my mind that seems really helpful to 2129 01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:40,239 » to my mind that seems really helpful to 2130 01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:41,920 get a clearer idea. So, thanks very much 2131 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:42,719 for that. Yeah. 2132 01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:44,550 >> Okay. Appreciate it. 2133 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:44,560 » Okay. Appreciate it. 2134 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,310 >> Yeah. Thank thanks councelor uh Cole 2135 01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:46,320 » Yeah. Thank thanks councelor uh Cole 2136 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,960 Hamilton and again uh given the 2137 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,560 conversations that I've had both with 2138 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,880 the other elected mayors here but more 2139 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,960 specifically proincially with our our 2140 01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:00,239 counterparts um uh around this topic. We 2141 01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:02,159 feel that I I definitely feel like we've 2142 01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:03,840 been definitely saying like this is 2143 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,520 something that needs to happen. So it 2144 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,159 it's uh I'm happy to see it happening. 2145 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:10,640 Um one of the reasons for doing the tour 2146 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,239 down in North Kawichin is to find out 2147 01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:16,080 those exact questions. How did they make 2148 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,000 it happen? What are lessons that they've 2149 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,640 learned? Um what were the challenges or 2150 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,400 pinch points and those kinds of things. 2151 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,400 So, um hopefully um the um we'll we'll 2152 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,360 get some light shed and uh I I think one 2153 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,280 of the things that is not lost on me 2154 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,239 when every year goes by uh on a project 2155 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:37,360 like this, whatever is going to be cost 2156 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,199 construction, the the costs going up and 2157 01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:40,719 I think I've had this conversation with 2158 01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:42,800 you. I it was the first conversation I 2159 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,640 had with Inspector Kerver when I became 2160 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,920 mayor. Um and that was, you know, seven 2161 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,719 years over seven years ago now. And so, 2162 01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:53,120 uh, I think it's, uh, definitely, uh, 2163 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,199 something that that, uh, we're we're 2164 01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:57,520 keen on getting as much, uh, data as we 2165 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,480 can. So, um, with that, I think, uh, 2166 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,880 we're flush out of questions for now, 2167 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,199 but, uh, really looking forward to the 2168 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:07,840 presentation on, um, on the on the new 2169 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,400 car and, uh, and its impact on our 2170 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,320 community. And I just want to really say 2171 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,480 thanks the feedback from uh 2172 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:16,639 organizations but even just uh the 2173 01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:18,639 impact that you guys have had with uh 2174 01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:20,239 the different events you're putting on. 2175 01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:22,239 It's just great to see that uh community 2176 01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:24,800 integration. So much appreciate it. 2177 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:25,830 >> Well, thank you for your time this 2178 01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:25,840 » Well, thank you for your time this 2179 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:26,400 evening. 2180 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,830 >> All right, have a good day. 2181 01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:29,840 » All right, have a good day. 2182 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,470 >> Um all right, uh over to internal 2183 01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:32,480 » Um all right, uh over to internal 2184 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,800 reports and correspondence. We'll uh go 2185 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,280 back to our regularly scheduled um 2186 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,400 agenda. 6.1 ABA digital gold award for 2187 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,560 Courtney's website redesign and I'll 2188 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,080 pass it over to Mr. Garvet. 2189 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,270 >> Yeah, thank you through the mayor to 2190 01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:45,280 » Yeah, thank you through the mayor to 2191 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,232 council. Um unfortunately um 2192 01:22:48,232 --> 01:22:50,239 [clears throat] and Guio is unwell today 2193 01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:52,639 and so uh Kate Connell is going to give 2194 01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:54,480 a little overview of this briefing note 2195 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:56,080 which is extremely exciting and we're 2196 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,600 all proud very proud of the work. 2197 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,629 >> Uh thanks very much. Yes. Um, I'm very 2198 01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:02,639 » Uh thanks very much. Yes. Um, I'm very 2199 01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:04,560 sad that on one of the very few nights 2200 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,080 that Ann is not able to be here is one 2201 01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,760 where we're going to have an opportunity 2202 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,159 to celebrate in a successful project 2203 01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:12,239 that she was really an integral part and 2204 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:14,719 lead of. But um, to get to it, I'm 2205 01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:16,639 excited to bring some fantastic news, 2206 01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,400 but a significant accomplishment for the 2207 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,400 city of Courtney. We've been awarded the 2208 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,040 AVA Digital Gold Award in recognition of 2209 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,600 our recent website redesign. The ABA 2210 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,960 Digital Awards is an esteemed 2211 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,239 international competition that 2212 01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:29,760 celebrates excellence in digital 2213 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,080 creativity, branding, and strategy 2214 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,360 recognizing the work of creative 2215 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,199 professionals across various fields such 2216 01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:36,960 as digital campaigns, website 2217 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,639 development, audio, and visual 2218 01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:40,800 production, and social media engagement. 2219 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,560 The award highlights innovative 2220 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,400 approaches to digital communication and 2221 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,320 the transformative impact of technology 2222 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,639 on communications and engagement. The 2223 01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:50,080 website replacement project was 2224 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,920 initiated due to the pressing need for a 2225 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,320 modern and accessible city website. Our 2226 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,920 previous site, which was over a decade 2227 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,920 old, fell short of current designs and 2228 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,760 functionality standards. Through 2229 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,360 community consultation, we learned that 2230 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,880 many of our residents, particularly 2231 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,800 those from equity deserving communities, 2232 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,400 relied heavily on our website for 2233 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,080 essential information, but face 2234 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,320 challenges in navigating it. The new 2235 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,560 website, launched on July 22nd of last 2236 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,239 year, marks a significant step in 2237 01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:15,920 enhancing our digital presence and 2238 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,520 providing better access to vital 2239 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,360 information for residents, businesses, 2240 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,280 staff, and visitors. 2241 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,040 One of the key elements of the project 2242 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,840 success in this ex exceptional collab is 2243 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,760 the exceptional collaboration across all 2244 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,840 city departments. Every department 2245 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,199 played an important role in the 2246 01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:33,199 development of the new site ensuring 2247 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:34,960 that it truly reflects the diverse needs 2248 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,360 of our community members. This award is 2249 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,360 not just for website. It is a shared 2250 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,199 achievement by everyone involved in the 2251 01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:43,199 project. We came together to create a 2252 01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:44,960 user-friendly, informative and 2253 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,520 accessible digital platform. I want to 2254 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,679 extend special thanks to Angio who's 2255 01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:50,880 currently the acting director of 2256 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,280 corporate services but regularly the 2257 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,600 manager of communication services for 2258 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,360 her leadership and unwavering commitment 2259 01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,520 throughout this process as well as to 2260 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,520 the communications team whose expertise 2261 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,360 was crucial in bringing this redesign to 2262 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,600 life. Some highlights include um or key 2263 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,280 improvements include a userentric 2264 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,360 design. So, this redesigned website 2265 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,360 features streamlined navigation tailored 2266 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:14,880 to different user groups, making it 2267 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,880 easier for everyone to find information 2268 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,360 quickly. It's accessible. So, we have 2269 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,800 enhanced the accessibility of our 2270 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,159 website to meet the WC A2.2 level 2271 01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,320 doubleA standards, ensuring that it's 2272 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,120 usable by all members of our community. 2273 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,280 We've enhanced the search functionality, 2274 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,600 so users can now easily navigate and 2275 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,960 aggregate results from various 2276 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,040 platforms, simplifying the process of 2277 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,600 finding information. There's also an 2278 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,320 interactive and multilingual features. 2279 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,560 The incorporation of interactive maps 2280 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,199 and support of over 80 languages with 2281 01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:48,719 immediate translation broadens 2282 01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:49,920 accessibility and engagement 2283 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,480 opportunities for everyone. This award 2284 01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:54,080 represents the hard work and dedication 2285 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,080 of every individual who contributed to 2286 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,159 bringing this vision to life. But 2287 01:25:58,159 --> 01:25:59,600 really, it wouldn't have been possible 2288 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,520 without the input and perspectives of 2289 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,600 our residents and business community 2290 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,639 members um who are extremely integral in 2291 01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:08,560 informing how we shaped the way we 2292 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,719 interact with our community members. And 2293 01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:12,800 with that, any questions uh council may 2294 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:18,950 have, but happy to celebrate an award. 2295 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,679 » Thank you so much. And and huge kudos to 2296 01:26:21,679 --> 01:26:24,800 uh to Ann and the team. Um I I know uh 2297 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,960 for someone like myself uh I I was 2298 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,600 chomping at the bit for quite some time. 2299 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,360 Um and uh but seeing the the outcome uh 2300 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,120 definitely was worth the wait. So uh and 2301 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,639 I I think I mentioned I've me well I've 2302 01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:38,239 mentioned it to Ann I think quite a few 2303 01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:40,080 times. I've mentioned it at this table 2304 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,400 as well um just the ability to find 2305 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,880 information uh which I think is its most 2306 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,960 critical uh use is uh uh definitely uh 2307 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,400 heads and shoulders above what it used 2308 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,760 to be. So uh councelor Thanks, Mayor 2309 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,840 Hardy. Congratulations to you and your 2310 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,840 entire department. And in particular, I 2311 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,800 hope Miss Guo knows how much uh her work 2312 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,520 is valued and appreciated. Uh she does 2313 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,080 excellent work, not just in relation to 2314 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,920 this website redesign, but but 2315 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,600 throughout her duties and and she's an 2316 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,679 incredibly valued member of of the city 2317 01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:14,960 staff. Um, I did want to ask if there is 2318 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,280 any sort of formal uh presentation that 2319 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,679 will be taking place. Uh, an expenses 2320 01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:21,840 paid trip to somewhere or anything like 2321 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,590 that. 2322 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,950 » Yep. 2323 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,360 » Um, this is not one of those ones where 2324 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,120 we get to fly some place and accept and 2325 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,440 get photos. Um, they actually made the 2326 01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:37,360 announcement through the website and 2327 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:38,719 that's how we found out. At the same 2328 01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:41,280 time, I will say um we did take the 2329 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,760 liberty of of um celebrating with some 2330 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,120 staff uh including some uh gold medals 2331 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,440 made by hot chocolates to to be able to 2332 01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,360 share. So, we all felt that that pride 2333 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,600 of the award, but no, it's there's 2334 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,600 unfortunately no uh presentation here. 2335 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,520 It's a bit more subtle than that, but 2336 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,120 still appreciate it. 2337 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,910 >> And and on the um agenda, there are some 2338 01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:01,920 » And and on the um agenda, there are some 2339 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,440 screenshots and there's a bit of a 2340 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:04,880 PowerPoint there for those who are 2341 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,800 following us online. They can uh take a 2342 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,400 look at the site there. Uh but hopefully 2343 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,000 they would have gotten there from our 2344 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,480 website. So um again, huge kudos uh if 2345 01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:16,400 we if we look at how to best communicate 2346 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,600 with um uh the folks of the city of 2347 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,239 Courtney and beyond uh the website's 2348 01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,080 definitely most effective way. So really 2349 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,719 happy to see that and uh congratulations 2350 01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:30,480 to everybody. Um and uh council just 2351 01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:33,040 unanimously received this and uh again 2352 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,400 kudos to everybody involved. Um, next on 2353 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,239 the agenda, we have the indigenous uh 2354 01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:42,960 procurement uh update. Mr. Gar, 2355 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,120 thank you through the mayor to council. 2356 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,120 Um, council gave us direction to update 2357 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,840 our procurement policy. Uh, as well, uh, 2358 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,280 we committed to bring back some 2359 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:52,880 information on how it was going. We're 2360 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,400 one of the first municipalities to 2361 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,239 actively engage on this and we're really 2362 01:28:56,239 --> 01:28:58,080 proud of that work. We think it's very 2363 01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,920 very important and it's consistent with 2364 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:01,920 council's direction on reconciliation 2365 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,199 and activities to support um uh 2366 01:29:05,199 --> 01:29:07,360 important capacity building in our 2367 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,679 community. Uh again, Mr. Eninsworth is 2368 01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:11,440 going to give us an overview of this 2369 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:13,360 program and he's available for 2370 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:18,310 questions. 2371 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,920 Thank you, Mr. Garbett. uh through the 2372 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,520 city manager and mayor council. This 2373 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,120 briefing note provides an update on the 2374 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,280 city's indigenous procurement work, what 2375 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,040 staff are currently doing and where we 2376 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,520 see the future opportunities. Indigenous 2377 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,040 procurement refers to procurement 2378 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,880 practices that intentionally increase 2379 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,280 participation by indigenous owned 2380 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,199 businesses in public sector supply 2381 01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:39,760 chains. At its core, the work supports 2382 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,159 economic development, job creation, and 2383 01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:44,320 capacity building within indi indigenous 2384 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,000 communities while also advancing 2385 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,000 reconciliation in a practical and 2386 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,520 systemic way. In January 2023, council 2387 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,840 adopted in an updated procurement policy 2388 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,440 framework. This was a significant 2389 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,239 milestone as it modernized a policy last 2390 01:29:58,239 --> 01:30:01,040 updated in 2011 and for the first time 2391 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,280 at the local government level in BC, it 2392 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,040 included explicit language supporting 2393 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,440 indigenous procurement. Since that time, 2394 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:09,040 staff have been focused on embedding 2395 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,719 indigenous procurement considerations 2396 01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:12,560 into day-to-day procurement activity 2397 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,080 across the organization. 2398 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,080 Since policy adoption, staff have 2399 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,440 implemented indigenous procurement 2400 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,920 across all non- construction procurement 2401 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,000 processes, updated templates, and 2402 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,159 delivered training to staff. Indigenous 2403 01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:27,840 procurement considerations are now 2404 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,480 routinely discussed in bitter debriefs 2405 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:32,239 and importantly staff have received no 2406 01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:33,760 negative feedback from the market on 2407 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,400 this approach to date through regular 2408 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,000 meetings with the Komox Economic 2409 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,440 Development Corporation. Staff have 2410 01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:41,199 developed indicative processes for 2411 01:30:41,199 --> 01:30:42,800 capital construction projects informed 2412 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,120 by those discussions. Current work is 2413 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,560 focused on developing indigenous 2414 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,719 procurement plans for mal major capital 2415 01:30:48,719 --> 01:30:50,320 projects such as the East Courtney Fire 2416 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,800 Hall and the Anderton lift station. 2417 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,400 Looking ahead, staff see opportunities 2418 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,239 to further refine indigenous procurement 2419 01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:59,280 and capital construction, including uh 2420 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,600 post post project reporting to assess 2421 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,280 effectiveness and inform continuous 2422 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,280 improvement. Continued staff training 2423 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,960 and organizational capacity building 2424 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,880 will remain a focus alongside 2425 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,239 strengthening relationships with 2426 01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:12,800 indigenous partners. Overall, this work 2427 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,120 position positions the city to deliver 2428 01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,199 meaningful and systemic reconciliation 2429 01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:18,960 outcomes while remaining fully compliant 2430 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,480 with applicable trade agreements and 2431 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:22,560 procurement best practices. And with 2432 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,679 that, I'll be happy to take any 2433 01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:25,280 questions. 2434 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,790 >> Fantastic. Thanks so much and 2435 01:31:26,790 --> 01:31:26,800 » Fantastic. Thanks so much and 2436 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,280 appreciated the reports and I'll pass it 2437 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,920 over to Councelor Hill. 2438 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,149 >> Thanks, Mayor, and thanks for staff's 2439 01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:34,159 » Thanks, Mayor, and thanks for staff's 2440 01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:36,239 work on this initiative. I did note 2441 01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:38,000 there was a question from the public 2442 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,120 that among other things asked about um 2443 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,960 um whether or not this um initiative 2444 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:50,320 tracked engagement with um indigenous 2445 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,639 members of the community beyond Karach's 2446 01:31:52,639 --> 01:31:55,520 first nation and we do have uh certainly 2447 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,480 people with uh from other uh uh 2448 01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,639 indigenous backgrounds along with matei 2449 01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:02,960 and uh so I just wondered if um you know 2450 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,080 we have any way of tracking that within 2451 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,880 the procurement initiative. 2452 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,669 >> Um so in terms of tracking the progress 2453 01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:11,679 » Um so in terms of tracking the progress 2454 01:32:11,679 --> 01:32:14,000 amongst the communities um in the 2455 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,320 various first nations uh whether it be 2456 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,719 on Vancouver Island, BC or more broadly 2457 01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:21,520 um we we don't necessarily have any 2458 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,280 tracking mechanisms currently in place 2459 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,080 for that. Um the structure of the policy 2460 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,320 around specific opportunities for 2461 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,000 specific first nations is really around 2462 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:31,679 the construction procurement piece and 2463 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:35,120 that's u based on um typically um well 2464 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:36,560 I'm getting drifting away from your 2465 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,639 question I apologize but um I guess the 2466 01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:40,239 answer is no we don't have any tracking 2467 01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:42,880 mechanisms and I'll stop there. Yeah. 2468 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,590 >> Oh yeah sure. Um just um in terms of the 2469 01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:45,600 » Oh yeah sure. Um just um in terms of the 2470 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,440 construction procurement, it is it the 2471 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:50,000 policy is highly defined for Komox First 2472 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,560 Nation businesses. Um and and the reason 2473 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,400 for that is is the work is is occurring 2474 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,880 on their traditional territory. So um 2475 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,040 there there's two pieces to the policy. 2476 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,719 Something that broadly applies across 2477 01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:02,480 all procurement that isn't necessarily 2478 01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:05,040 structured or or directed specifically 2479 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,960 to Komox First Nation on the 2480 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,320 construction side of things because 2481 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:09,920 we're building those projects within 2482 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,600 city limits that is on that traditional 2483 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,679 territory. refocus those opportunities 2484 01:33:13,679 --> 01:33:17,760 to KFN and their businesses. 2485 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,709 >> Right. Councelor 2486 01:33:20,709 --> 01:33:20,719 » Right. Councelor 2487 01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:21,280 Hill. 2488 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,350 >> Thanks, Mary. And just to follow up, um 2489 01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:23,360 » Thanks, Mary. And just to follow up, um 2490 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,800 I know that there are a number of 2491 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,840 indigenous b businesses that are in fact 2492 01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,880 connected to Komox. I don't know whether 2493 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,520 there we have uh businesses in the 2494 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,280 community that have other indigenous 2495 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,920 heritage that they identify as such, but 2496 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:44,080 I'm imagining that um when we um when we 2497 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,719 go through the procurement process and 2498 01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:48,480 essentially award points for some sort 2499 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,800 of indication that there's an indigenous 2500 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:55,199 component um that could in fact cover 2501 01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:57,440 the whole range of uh of communities 2502 01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:59,120 that are represented within the valley 2503 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:00,320 beyond just Komox. 2504 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,750 >> Yep. Absolutely. So um just um speaking 2505 01:34:03,750 --> 01:34:03,760 » Yep. Absolutely. So um just um speaking 2506 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,679 currently or a procurement that recently 2507 01:34:05,679 --> 01:34:08,480 closed, we did see um a vendor that 2508 01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,000 identified as an indigenous business 2509 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,320 from down island. Um so we are asking 2510 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,719 those questions around whether or not 2511 01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:16,239 the organization that's bidding a 2512 01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:18,000 project is an indigenous business and to 2513 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,520 provide additional information and 2514 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,080 details to that effect. 2515 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,709 >> Excellent. Thanks uh councelor councelor 2516 01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:24,719 » Excellent. Thanks uh councelor councelor 2517 01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:25,440 Mr. Gard. 2518 01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:27,030 >> Yeah, thank you through the mayor. 2519 01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:27,040 » Yeah, thank you through the mayor. 2520 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:28,960 Councelor Helen, just with respect to 2521 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,880 the identification of Komox First Nation 2522 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,520 and so I would say we're in a relatively 2523 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:34,960 unique position where we have one 2524 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,280 principal First Nation within our uh 2525 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,120 within our the lands that incorporate 2526 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,040 our municipality and so that's 2527 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,880 appropriate to identify that principal 2528 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,280 First Nation. If we're in the context 2529 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,880 where we had multiple First Nations as 2530 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,440 is the case uh north and south, east and 2531 01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:51,840 west of us, uh then we would do that. 2532 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,440 That's the explanation as to why there's 2533 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:56,159 a specific reference. 2534 01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:58,560 Uh thanks for that clarification. Uh 2535 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:03,040 appreciate that. Um and um thank you. 2536 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,840 And we'll receive that unanimously. Uh 2537 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,199 thank you Scott for the the 2538 01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:08,320 presentation. And we'll move into 2539 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,719 bylaws. We have 7.1.1 fees and charges 2540 01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:14,320 amendment bylaw 3208 2026 for solid 2541 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,830 waste. 2542 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,719 » Okay. And I'll pass it over, I think, to 2543 01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:22,639 Chris Thompson. 2544 01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:25,590 >> Uh yeah. or if council has any questions 2545 01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:25,600 » Uh yeah. or if council has any questions 2546 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:26,880 we can have a presentation or if you 2547 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:33,590 want to proceed as is carry on. 2548 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,600 » Okay. So, looks like we're going to Yep. 2549 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,920 Uh 2550 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,550 >> fair enough. Okay. Uh so, it's been 2551 01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:42,560 » fair enough. Okay. Uh so, it's been 2552 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,560 moved and seconded. Doesn't sound like 2553 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,360 there's any questions. Um, so with that, 2554 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,520 all those in favor and motion carries 2555 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,270 and we'll go to 7.1.2, 2556 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,719 the uh 2026 revenue anticipation boring 2557 01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:02,950 bylaw 3209. 2558 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,880 Okay, it's been moved and seconded. And 2559 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,199 I heard that Mr. Langmire was online. If 2560 01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:09,920 there's any questions, 2561 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,920 there he is. 2562 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:13,520 Uh, councelor Fr. 2563 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,430 >> Yeah. No, quickly. We do this every year 2564 01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:15,440 » Yeah. No, quickly. We do this every year 2565 01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:17,120 this time of year. So, I'm really happy 2566 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,320 just to move ahead. Thanks. 2567 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,990 >> All right. With that, I'll call the 2568 01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:22,000 » All right. With that, I'll call the 2569 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,560 question. All those in favor? 2570 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,320 Any opposed? And motion carries. And 2571 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,480 that brings us to council reports. We'll 2572 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:32,400 start with councelor Cole Hamilton. 2573 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:37,461 Councelor Fr. Councelor Hillian. 2574 01:36:37,471 --> 01:36:38,320 [clears throat] 2575 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,310 >> Thanks, Mayor. Two things. First of all, 2576 01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:40,320 » Thanks, Mayor. Two things. First of all, 2577 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,440 I want to acknowledge um being part of 2578 01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:46,480 the uh project watershed's celebration 2579 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:49,360 of the lifting of the of the wall at the 2580 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,239 cuscusum site. And uh I would encourage 2581 01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:53,920 anybody who hasn't had the opportunity 2582 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:57,520 to watch the process unfolding uh to to 2583 01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,280 take it in. It's quite remarkable to 2584 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,040 actually watch one of those steel plates 2585 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:02,639 being pulled out from start to finish 2586 01:37:02,639 --> 01:37:05,280 and to see how long they are. And uh um 2587 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,800 so there was an event on Thursday 2588 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,040 afternoon that was um open to members of 2589 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,719 the public who had signed up with three 2590 01:37:10,719 --> 01:37:13,679 sessions that yourself and and others 2591 01:37:13,679 --> 01:37:16,639 were at and very well attended with a 2592 01:37:16,639 --> 01:37:18,400 great deal of support for the project. 2593 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,719 So I just wanted to acknowledge that. I 2594 01:37:20,719 --> 01:37:23,280 also wanted to acknowledge that um in 2595 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,520 the past weeks I've had the opportunity 2596 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,880 to reflect on um the uh the work that 2597 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,360 our staff does um sometimes in the face 2598 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,760 of a significant amount of pressure and 2599 01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,400 I'm aware that um at the council table 2600 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,719 from time to time either through 2601 01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:40,639 reflecting things we've heard in the 2602 01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:42,320 public or through questions that come up 2603 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,280 for ourselves um it might be implied 2604 01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,679 that uh that council members such as 2605 01:37:47,679 --> 01:37:52,480 myself don't always have the uh um uh 2606 01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:54,400 the the full regard for the work that 2607 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,880 our staff does that uh that perhaps we 2608 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,119 it might be implied that that we don't 2609 01:38:01,119 --> 01:38:02,800 respect and value the work that our 2610 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,159 staff does. And I I just want to 2611 01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:08,080 reaffirm my own perspective that u the 2612 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,440 staff that works for the city of 2613 01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:10,960 Courtney and the consultants that serve 2614 01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,440 us do excellent work sometimes under 2615 01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:16,080 very difficult circumstances. And uh I 2616 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,360 want to reaffirm uh my uh faith and and 2617 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,280 respect for the expertise and the 2618 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,679 professionalism that they bring to the 2619 01:38:23,679 --> 01:38:25,920 work that they commit every day. And uh 2620 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,679 I think we're very fortunate to have the 2621 01:38:27,679 --> 01:38:29,920 staff and consultants that we do have. 2622 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,840 And um uh I think from time to time the 2623 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,600 the cut and thrust of what goes on at 2624 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,440 the council table may suggest otherwise 2625 01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:38,960 and it couldn't be further from the 2626 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,800 truth from my perspective and I just 2627 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,639 wanted to acknowledge that today. 2628 01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:43,430 >> Thanks. 2629 01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:43,440 » Thanks. 2630 01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:45,669 >> Uh thanks so much. Councelor Hill, 2631 01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:45,679 » Uh thanks so much. Councelor Hill, 2632 01:38:45,679 --> 01:38:48,560 really appreciate that. Uh, yeah, the I 2633 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,880 know the the staff definitely have my 2634 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,719 utmost confidence and I think that that 2635 01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:54,400 that's pretty true of of all of council, 2636 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,639 but yeah, sometimes uh comments can be 2637 01:38:56,639 --> 01:38:58,639 made that could be uh misconstrued. So, 2638 01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:01,679 I appreciate you clarifying. Um, Council 2639 01:39:01,679 --> 01:39:04,239 McCullum, 2640 01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:07,920 Councelor Morren, and um, again, just 2641 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,280 want to appreciate everybody who came to 2642 01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,679 the couscous event. It was extremely 2643 01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:14,159 well attended, an amazing event. very 2644 01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:15,440 inspiring to see our community come 2645 01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:17,360 together and I know there's many council 2646 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,880 members there. Um uh last night I was 2647 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,840 able to present uh the Legion with a 2648 01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,199 replacement freedom of the city uh um 2649 01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:29,840 plaque which uh apparently had gone 2650 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,840 awall um uh a year or two ago and so 2651 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,360 we're able to replace that and they were 2652 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,719 very thankful and it's a good time to uh 2653 01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:40,320 reflect on the fact that the Legion 2654 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,080 Canadian Legions are celebrating 100 2655 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,280 years this year. Um and uh so it was a 2656 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,719 great presentation last night and um uh 2657 01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:50,159 this is the time of year where I'm doing 2658 01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:51,760 a lot of presentations uh to 2659 01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,639 organizations uh like Rotary and uh 2660 01:39:54,639 --> 01:39:56,320 Lions, that kind of thing. And so if 2661 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:57,840 there are any organizations out there 2662 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,320 that are wanting an update uh on city 2663 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,440 activities, happy to do that. But uh in 2664 01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:06,080 particular, the Courtney Rotary Club uh 2665 01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,159 uh yesterday I was able to uh go and 2666 01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:10,159 accept a check. Actually Joy took the 2667 01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,159 check. Uh I just got a picture with the 2668 01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:15,520 big one um uh for $10,000 to the 2669 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,920 Woodcoat Park. Um and uh so uh and just 2670 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,560 it's really great to see uh Rotary Clubs 2671 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,119 uh kind of getting re-engaged and over 2672 01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:28,800 the last um uh uh year and a bit the 2673 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,600 Courtney Rotary Club is actually put um 2674 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:36,080 uh over $150,000 into um projects within 2675 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,040 the city of Courtney. So, um, uh, they 2676 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,040 they were ready to go and I know there's 2677 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,040 other Rotary clubs that are just just as 2678 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,960 excited and and happy to work with the 2679 01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,000 city on on projects. So, uh, with that, 2680 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,480 uh, we'll adjourn.