1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 for 2 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:54,709 ready yes sir I'm ready [Music] 3 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:06,400 ready all right before we start if anybody would like to address the board 4 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:11,400 tonight under public comment there's a signup sheet here at the 5 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:15,240 front so I wanted to make sure we got that in 6 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:19,080 place we got a few minutes before six but there have been times we have 7 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:24,040 started late so we're going to start a little early I'm going to call this me 8 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:30,520 go ahead and sign I'm going to call this meeting to order tonight our invocation 9 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,479 will be done by commissioner wil Wilkins and our Pledge of Allegiance by 10 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:37,520 commissioner Albright let us pray gracious father Our 11 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:41,799 God we come before you this evening to say thank you we thank you oh God for 12 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:45,479 the grace that you show us father God and the mercy that you give us we thank 13 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:50,000 you Father God for your abounding love in our lives we ask father God you 14 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:53,880 please bless every member of this board bless our citizens father God we ask a 15 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:58,799 special blessing this evening on a pillar of our community sister mild go 16 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:02,920 father God we thank you for her all that she's done father God we pray that you 17 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:07,200 would just watch over give longevity of Life father we thank you we love you we 18 00:02:05,399 --> 00:02:10,759 lift you up and we glorify you holy Your Righteous name we say thank you right 19 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:16,400 now in the mighty name of Jesus and his name's sake we pray amen amen amen take 20 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:30,519 PL I to the flag of the United States of America and to the rep for stands one 21 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:32,760 nation God indivisible with liy Justice for 22 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:39,319 All 23 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:50,319 see Madam Court roll call please commissioner gleon here Wilkins here 24 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:56,280 commissioner alight here Mayim kachinsky here mayor Willer here thank you all 25 00:02:53,879 --> 00:03:00,959 right is there any additions or deletions from our agenda tonight 26 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:10,959 not seeing any I'm sorry one item close session sir okay we will add a item to 27 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:16,879 close session Kevin we have to have number 28 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:23,879 announced or any of that we should what's the what's the purpose it's a 29 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,879 Personnel mounted 143 318 30 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:38,239 1186 person now okay we'll add that under close session number 31 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:43,200 16 anything else any other changes not hearing any I'll entertain a 32 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:47,799 motion to approve the agenda with the addition of the closed session 33 00:03:45,230 --> 00:03:53,640 [Music] ation all right the motion is made by 34 00:03:50,760 --> 00:04:00,439 the mayor Pro Tim all those in favor say I I oppose no motion carries 4 35 00:03:57,959 --> 00:04:03,440 to0 all right at this time I'll entertain a motion for item five the 36 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:09,000 consent [Music] 37 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:15,600 agenda motion is made by commissioner Wilkins all those in favor say I I 38 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:24,840 oppose no motion carries 420 and we move to item 39 00:04:19,919 --> 00:04:24,840 six with Miss Mrs 40 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:34,420 GS m m if you would come up front with me 41 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,420 [Music] 42 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:41,930 please a walk we got you tax bill [Music] 43 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:51,039 here up stra taxes I know you 44 00:04:52,720 --> 00:05:00,199 will this all the years I've known you you've been one of the finest people 45 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:05,520 that I have ever met you have always had crore at the Forefront of everything you 46 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:10,320 did and if it wasn't crore it was a county and a lot of people didn't always 47 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:17,620 agree with you but we just wrote it down that they were wrong so at this 48 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:20,680 time you come for the yeah everybody [Music] 49 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,360 coming get 50 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:31,639 there bab in the he'll be in the back 51 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:44,720 all right are we good on that yes sir we are good right this time I have a 52 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:52,240 proclamation honoring Mrs mild bur gos whereas Mrs milber Curry go was born in 53 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:57,039 s for Township to Roger and cor Curr on August 28th 54 00:05:54,160 --> 00:06:03,600 1929 and whereas Mrs GSS has three children Sandra aen Karen kimry her 55 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:10,440 husband clay and Jerry Ross and two grandchildren Tracy mcen and Genie 56 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Parish her husband Chad whereas Mrs GS worked for the state of North Carolina 57 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:20,599 for 39 A2 years and retired in February of 58 00:06:17,479 --> 00:06:27,400 1996 as a health information manager with adatc which is alcohol and drug 59 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:32,199 abuse treatment center and whereas Mrs G organized the gramble county genealogy 60 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:38,360 society and has been the president for the past 30 years doesn't seem that long 61 00:06:34,919 --> 00:06:43,880 does it and has been doing lineage research from o group since the early 62 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:49,360 1990s and whereas Mrs G has been a member of the United Daughters of the 63 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:54,520 Confederacy since 1995 and is currently serving as the North Carolina division 64 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:59,919 registrar is a member of the Daughters of the American R Revolution and 65 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:06,080 organized a chapter in Granville County in 2000 and whereas Mrs G worked with 66 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:10,520 the Board of Elections for 20 years as a Precinct judge at crore elementary 67 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:16,800 school served on the ramille county library board and served on the city's 68 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:23,759 planning board from 2001 until 2018 and whereas Mrs G has researched 69 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:30,160 cataloged and collaborated on cemeter records from gramble County 454 70 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:36,280 cemeteries which include an endless SA walking in the woods looking for old 71 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:40,759 cemeteries and has published three books current connection Bible records of 72 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:47,639 gramble County and marriage records of gramble County 1866 to 73 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:53,000 1894 now therefore the proclaimed that as the mayor and on behalf of the city 74 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:57,599 of cmore I thank Mrs M gos for her public service to the city of prore and 75 00:07:55,479 --> 00:08:04,599 the community and her tireless dedication to Pro 76 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,599 of the records of Grille County 77 00:08:18,479 --> 00:08:25,290 congratulations thank you and I love [Music] 78 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:42,719 now miss mild you're more than welcome to hang around with us if you'd like but 79 00:08:39,959 --> 00:08:49,320 you can also leave if you would like well since this in good hand I want a 80 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,320 picture of 81 00:08:54,870 --> 00:09:03,889 [Music] 82 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,640 a 83 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:15,920 [Music] good Miss Builder you know he's married 84 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,920 don't you I don't 85 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:24,000 care he's young enough to be my grandson close enough category I'll put 86 00:09:22,730 --> 00:09:31,360 [Music] okay thank y thank you very much for all 87 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,360 you've done absolutely 88 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:37,359 [Music] 89 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:54,839 [Music] um let's see where am I here got that 90 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:59,480 got that got that yeah we don't have any all right under public comment item 91 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,519 seven Mr 92 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:08,600 Callas you are the only one on my list if you would stand up give your name and 93 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:13,600 your address and then you have three minutes pass that back down to hold 94 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:22,560 three minutes um my name is Michael call address 2016 Harrison Court in prore 95 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:26,880 27522 um I'm here just to refresh request that some of the election 96 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:34,600 workers have made uh folks that worked at the crore precinct um 97 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:41,360 um I've worked for about four years and that loation um well it has 98 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:46,680 a adequate space in either the gym or the cafeteria some of the arrangements 99 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:53,120 uh traffic patterns coming into the into the building um and the parking lot 100 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:57,040 itself uh are a little bit awkward um and some of us talked about the 101 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:02,920 possibility of using the community center for that that pral precin polling 102 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:07,680 location um and I think a few emails were were written um before this past 103 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:15,399 election and and I also followed up with some emails and and spoke with a few um 104 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:20,560 so I went to visit the the community center and the will Oak looks like it 105 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:24,639 would be adequate Pride for there's a runoff election in in May or June I 106 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:30,040 forget which um but we expect kind of low turnout um and thought it would be a 107 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:36,079 good trial run that the board would consider that um and the general 108 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:41,800 election we're expecting a huge turnout uh even for the primary election that we 109 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:48,519 had a few weeks ago we had at one point 30 or so people waiting in line and and 110 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:51,600 they were inside the building um will o room I don't think will have that kind 111 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:55,360 of space and I always worry about weather you know folks come to vote and 112 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:59,279 may be part of their decision whether or not to come vote uh if the weather's bad 113 00:11:57,959 --> 00:12:05,079 and they know they have to be standing outside uh you might be a 114 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:09,040 deterrent um and and whenever we're we're setting up the the arrangement 115 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:14,120 setting up the the sping plat we're always looking for ways to make it uh 116 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:19,480 most efficient for the voters make it as pleasant and experience as possible um 117 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,959 at least what what we have available to to us as far as resources uh so the 118 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:30,760 community seter just seems like it's a great central location um the kind of 119 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:36,519 thing that you know City the county um would build for you know a function like 120 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:40,320 this and uh if nothing else it's it's great advertisement for the community 121 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:45,079 center and all facilities that it offers so I just just wanted to refresh 122 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:49,440 that that request and uh what the board to consider Mr call we would be more 123 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:52,800 than happy to consider it I know some members of this board have already 124 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:57,360 expressed an interest but we need an official request from the Board of 125 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Elections okay before we can do anything at all okay so if you can get them to 126 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:06,279 send us something we will definitely put it at the top of the list for 127 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:10,480 consideration okay excellent the old halling middle school 128 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:19,519 was also an option you thought about that 129 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:24,199 um I I would consider it a a a plan B if we were to move from from the new huling 130 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:30,120 middle school it's a little bit further out of the way um I understand the 131 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:36,320 facilities or uh you know it's not staffed regularly so it might be harder 132 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:42,959 to to get um help setting up and and cleaning up 133 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:48,320 um but yeah we did consider that also and you know we may do with whatever we 134 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:52,720 can get unfortunately that's that's the the attitude you know we get for 135 00:13:50,199 --> 00:13:52,720 election 136 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:02,759 can May Pro him have you spoken to yourn for Board of election yet the the head 137 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:07,440 judge the chief judge for the precinct has spoken with her a few times um I I 138 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:10,880 don't recall specifically what the the results of that work I understand that 139 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:17,920 she maybe did have some discussion with somebody theor here in the city 140 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:24,639 and what I heard was um it was noted right away I I don't 141 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:30,079 know specifically what but um we we definitely will come back and let her 142 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:34,920 know that it's under consideration all right thank you sir thank 143 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:42,199 you thank you much all right we move down next to 144 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:47,959 item 9A discussion on petition to General 145 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:52,720 Assembly about City boundaries Mr city manager Mr Mayor members of the board uh 146 00:14:50,759 --> 00:15:01,040 this item has been placed on the board's agenda for discussion uh by the group 147 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,040 before any action can be taken or 148 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:12,990 made said this item has been placed on the agenda for board 149 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:16,049 discussion do we have any [Music] 150 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:24,440 information that your phone's covering the buttons you're not going to be able 151 00:15:20,839 --> 00:15:29,600 to answer anybody are you mayor Pro 10 152 00:15:26,839 --> 00:15:35,759 um I was just looking my left conversation with one of the legislators 153 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:40,680 involved was they just needed a letter from the 154 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:44,839 board um with a vote decision to be sent to them and they 155 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:49,839 would take it from there if we wanted to go forward with 156 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:58,160 this there is a letter in the package from the city attorney yes oh okay I 157 00:15:53,639 --> 00:16:02,279 thought that was part of his no Sim Sim Sim s 158 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,279 it was before 159 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,480 [Applause] 160 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,880 that okay I didn't see 161 00:16:21,250 --> 00:16:29,519 [Music] that I don't think any of had it 162 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,680 okay um is there if you want Kevin to jump in 163 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:39,920 I'm sure he can Kevin Let's uh since we got you here um the information she that 164 00:16:37,319 --> 00:16:42,870 he has none of us have we might have it in 165 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:47,240 theed it by [Music] 166 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:53,759 email now I have not been told by any of the 167 00:16:51,079 --> 00:16:57,319 legisl legislators who I have spoken with about this that the city needs to 168 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:01,519 take any specific action whether that's adoption or 169 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:07,120 approval of a letter or a specific request in fact I've been in touch with 170 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:11,559 uh a bill writer from the general assembly who was preparing the 171 00:17:08,679 --> 00:17:15,919 background work necessary I have still today not gotten a direct answer from 172 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:22,679 any of our legislators uh about what is required of 173 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:27,760 the city in terms of procedure in order to see this through however because 174 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:32,200 they' put me in touch with a bill writer I am assuming that there's nothing 175 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:35,559 further that the city is required to do now as a practical matter I think I 176 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:42,080 would always recommend that the city put this on for public hearing uh prior to 177 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:48,000 any action by the general assemblying not going to happen absolutely well let 178 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:52,480 let's let him finish first let him finish well I I know the board does not 179 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:59,159 love this response but the board can do what he want however I do think that the 180 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Optics of uh changing the city these corporate boundaries without providing 181 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:11,480 affected Property Owners any opportunity to make comments is not is is 182 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:15,640 potentially problematic uh whereas at least giving folks the 183 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:21,880 opportunity to express comments or feelings on the issue uh when and doubt 184 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:27,120 is always the better option in my experience um but this it's it's up to 185 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:31,720 the city how you like to proceed to to the board that's why 186 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:39,120 [Applause] big yeah mayor 187 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:39,120 Pro 188 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:47,559 um this is not an action of the board this is a legislative action it's not us 189 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:51,840 the public hearing would be held by the legislature anybody who proposes this 190 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,559 bill would have to deal with the public common at that point the city of 191 00:18:53,559 --> 00:19:02,960 creedmore is just um 192 00:18:59,159 --> 00:19:09,280 acting at the behest of a legislator it was a legislator who brought this to us 193 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:14,880 and that's going to that's public hearing would be on that it's not for us 194 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:19,600 to decide there's a statute and there's not a statute govern this particular 195 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:23,520 process well then I've got another lawyer who's telling me a lie who 196 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:28,760 happens to be a senator there is not a statute and we've 197 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:33,840 already discussed this there's not a statute that governs the legislative uh 198 00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:38,440 the process for the general assembly to amend boundaries there are processes by 199 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:42,400 which the city can initiate uh an amendment to the city's 200 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:47,720 corporate the boundaries of the city's corporate limits we've discussed those 201 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:53,280 options in P but we can't enact it ourselves we need legislative approval 202 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:57,039 to do it the legislative boundary Amendment that's correct and that's a 203 00:19:54,600 --> 00:20:00,880 con that's a that is not something that arises under State Statute that P 204 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:06,440 granted to the general assembly by the North Carolina Constitution there's not 205 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:09,960 a statutory process that outlines what needs to be done by the state or by the 206 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:15,400 general assembly in that case it's simply an action by the general assembly 207 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:19,720 it uh come as a result of a petition from a or a bill proposed by an 208 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:23,520 individual legislator and it follows the same process that any other bill would 209 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:30,640 follow right not something that Ares under statute that that sets forward 210 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,640 specific procedures for for that proc 211 00:20:30,679 --> 00:20:37,440 okay am I still on the floor well I need to go to somebody else but you can 212 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:42,840 finish with your thought P well when you're when you're ready I would like to 213 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:47,280 make a motion that this board vote to go forward with this and send a letter to 214 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:52,000 the legislature um telling them this is 215 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:56,280 something that we would request because I have been told that that's all re I 216 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,679 don't know why we have two different answers I'm sorry Kevin we will come 217 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:07,000 back to you on your motion um commissioner 218 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:10,440 gon you've been in touch with the bill writer there they are going to they are 219 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:15,240 going to be writing a bill or you don't know I don't I've been asked bu a bill 220 00:21:13,159 --> 00:21:22,039 writer from the general assembly's legal department to provide background on what 221 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:26,559 specifically would be uh involved in the boundary amendment that is under 222 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:30,679 consideration I provided information but I've not heard and I specifically asked 223 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:35,400 Bill writer in addition to our three legislators uh to give me some you to 224 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:41,320 explain to me what specifically would be required if anything from the city 225 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:45,039 nobody's given me a specific response to but I would assume that as if we took a 226 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:49,960 vote on it then we are starting a process that does have 227 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:57,000 rules well I I think that if the city were to if you all were to to vote to 228 00:21:53,760 --> 00:22:03,080 petition the general assembly to uh enact legislation amending City bound 229 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:08,760 that would still not uh enter into any specific process uh under the north 230 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:14,960 carine General statutes it would still be something that we are asking the 231 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,960 general assembly to do on behalf 232 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:24,240 of anything else any other commissioner wils I have 233 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:33,440 a question for the attorney how would this uh affect taxes for those homes 234 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:40,720 so uh the parcels that have been identified as part of this process are 235 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:45,720 those that are located within uh they donut P par the ones that are kind of 236 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:49,679 located within or enclosed on you know several sides by the city's corporate 237 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:54,679 limits but they are not themselves within the city's corporate limits 238 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:59,440 therefore they are not tax subject to to the city taxes they're subject to County 239 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:06,200 taxes um and any other special assessments that might they might be 240 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:10,919 affected by but this process would uh incorporate those Parcels into the 241 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:17,039 city's tax they would now be subject both to the County taxes but also to the 242 00:23:12,919 --> 00:23:23,240 city taxes so are we able to grandfather those people in until there's a change 243 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:29,679 of ownership I I don't want somebody get hit or something with a city tax that 244 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:33,960 they've never paid I I don't that well I I think that the bottom line I'm not 245 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:38,279 aware of that ever having been done by the general assembly that's not to say 246 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:43,559 it couldn't be done I think a practical matter the general assembly much like 247 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:49,159 this board can do whatever provided that uh that that is specifically 248 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:53,760 incorporated into the test of of any that would carry this U boundary 249 00:23:51,279 --> 00:24:00,159 adjustment out um so I think that would require further 250 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:04,480 conversations with our represent and Sen and with Bill writers but I don't see 251 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:08,000 any reason why couldn't happen is that something we include in a 252 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:13,039 motion or I I think this this board can include 253 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,880 that in a motion this evening if the board chooses to go down that Mr Mayor 254 00:24:15,159 --> 00:24:23,279 if we can I would like to have it included in the motion well if possible 255 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:30,039 let's make sure we're deciding to do yes sir um what concerns me is sticking our 256 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:34,399 nose since somewhere to accomplish something where we don't need to stick 257 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:41,159 our nose in other words if the process is playing out like it should that we 258 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:45,679 shouldn't be involved in it at all it's up to the legislators and their bill 259 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:51,279 writers and all that I hate for us to stick our foot in and have it get it cut 260 00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:56,240 off now that is my reservation on this and I know the mayor protim has spoken 261 00:24:53,559 --> 00:25:00,640 to some of these others and I I trust her 100% 262 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:05,919 but personally I have not heard anything from any of them I know they've talked 263 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:09,840 to her but I I haven't heard anything and I don't know if any of the other 264 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:15,480 Commissioners have heard anything and I would feel better if if I heard from 265 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:20,399 them exactly what they think we should do as a community so yeah and and I'll 266 00:25:18,399 --> 00:25:25,440 just add this is a conversation that manager and I had last week was that you 267 00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:32,320 know I am uncomfortable recommending as 268 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:38,000 uh adopt any specific statement on this request until we know exactly what it is 269 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:42,880 that is going to be required of the city if anything really and and that's where 270 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:50,279 I'm at too and and what what I'm what I'm concerned about is that any adopted 271 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:56,679 statement by this board may be used as a litness test to gauge the public 272 00:25:52,480 --> 00:26:01,000 reaction to this what's being proposed here and that 273 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:06,720 if we go ahead and do this and there's a large public backlash to it we may end 274 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:11,440 up in a situation where our Representatives might say well you know 275 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:15,279 this maybe's not in anybody's interest to pursue any further so I would like to 276 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:19,960 have a better understanding of the process before the city takes any 277 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:25,440 concrete action that's kind of where I'm at commissioner 278 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:31,440 g i I agree I certainly believe we need to close the dut holes do things like 279 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:37,720 that I think us stepping in here now is going to open us up to public 280 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:42,399 scrutiny it's not going to be like nobody's going to see this and we're not 281 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:48,080 going to get at the next meeting for public comments everybody from the dut 282 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:52,440 holes there's no way the bottom line is if it can be done through the 283 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:58,880 legislature and they tell us what we got to do then we do it other than that I I 284 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,279 think we're we're opening up a can of worms that 285 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:07,559 you're not going to be able to put the cat back on the 286 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:13,200 can and and there's nothing that says it really needs to be done tonight in fact 287 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:17,520 this is purely a discussion item but so it still give and it's not like we 288 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:22,240 haven't been working on it so I just think uh a little bit more time to look 289 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:26,399 at this other stuff would be prudent in this thing mayor protim you've got till 290 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:33,279 July I said that the first time there was a meeting is this a short session we 291 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:40,320 are running out of time and it is it is it is not our decision that started with 292 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:44,760 this board Senator bod came to the city and had a meeting with with the fire 293 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:49,000 department about getting more funding for the fire department and she said you 294 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:54,279 are not collecting all the taxes that you're due we have citizens in creedmore 295 00:27:52,200 --> 00:28:00,320 that are getting police and fire services without paying a dime for it 296 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:05,840 because they're in these donnut holes and her answer to me was everybody has 297 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:10,159 to pay their fair share I brought it to this board and said there's a short 298 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:15,120 session we need to move fast it's been two months now and we're still not even 299 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:20,519 anywhere near this we do not need a public hearing it is not concern of the 300 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:26,440 public only the people that are involved and it's not but the legislature has to 301 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:32,360 know if this board wants them to consider it so we we have to vote to 302 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:37,480 send a letter to the legislature to say would you consider this that's all we 303 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:44,519 have to do and I know you haven't been told that but I have and and I'm not 304 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:49,000 lying is it is it you said second ago that the legisl needs needs to know that 305 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:52,840 this is something the city is the legisl not 306 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:57,320 aware because we have to send them something in writing saying our board 307 00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:01,320 has voted and we're asking you to do this but where and I guess my question 308 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:06,440 is where is this you keep saying there's a requirement to do this but I nobody 309 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,440 I'm I'm not aware of any requirement imposed by Statute Constitution and I've 310 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:16,279 not heard from how do they know we have an issue that's the only place I 311 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:21,679 understand that but they he needs something in 312 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:27,360 writing for I mean to makes sense to me I mean I think City ofed an 313 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:31,720 entirely legislative matter to the general don't see why they would need 314 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:36,279 anything from the city I think that you you said it just a few minutes ago that 315 00:29:34,679 --> 00:29:39,880 this is not something that the city need have any involvement in this is an 316 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:43,320 entirely legislative matter the general assembly introdu the bill it goes to 317 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:47,360 that FR but they they they're not experts on every peaceful land in the 318 00:29:45,159 --> 00:29:52,919 state of North Carolina we have to give them the information of that you've 319 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:57,760 shared that so now they need something that says the board of creedmore would 320 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:02,480 like you to check into this I mean they will will not go forward until they 321 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:09,320 can't just do it on their own without us saying okay what what I'm I'm can you 322 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,240 explain to me why that's the case they want to know if the city we don't need 323 00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:17,240 to do anything is something that is entirely done by the general assembly 324 00:30:15,159 --> 00:30:22,600 it's separate and part the city has no involvement we have to ask them where 325 00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:25,960 these where these these two an thought process is overlap if it's something 326 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,120 that's entirely done by the general assembly which I think is the case I 327 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,320 don't know why they need anything from the city except for the city to be the 328 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,840 one to open up the potential can of worms so that they can take a look at 329 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:43,320 and see whether this is something they want to back or that's it and and that's 330 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:48,000 fair that's a requirement and if any of our Representatives or our Senator are 331 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:52,679 going to say I will not introduce a bill until the city does these things as a as 332 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:57,159 a person that's exactly what I was told exactly those words that's the case they 333 00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:02,480 i' I've asked them that question directly s times and if they want to 334 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:06,600 respond to me and say these are the things that we are going to require 335 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,720 before we will sponsor a bill then I will advise the board in that case that 336 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,480 that is something that if this board really wants to go through this process 337 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,679 that's what you're going to have to do but they've told me as an elected 338 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:22,919 official for the city of creedmore that that's what they want and that's all 339 00:31:20,919 --> 00:31:28,039 they need to do and all I'm doing is I'm giving you my legal advice that the city 340 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:33,000 not stick its nose in something that's that we until we know that doing so is 341 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:38,760 absolutely necessary because any blowback from a formal action by the 342 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:43,159 city to adopt a letter and send that off is going to come back on the city not 343 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:47,000 the general assembly and and if that's if that's a risk that that a majority of 344 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:52,760 this board is Will to run that's fine as far are not you legal advice that that 345 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:58,120 is not at this time until we know that doing so is an absolute necessity for 346 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,600 this process to move forward I have been that that's exactly what's needed for it 347 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:05,480 to go forward and and that's fair I don't dispute that it might be the case 348 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:10,240 I've asked that same question and I've not received a specific response you all 349 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:14,320 are free to move forward with that process you know adopting and approving 350 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:18,559 a letter to send on and it's if this board votes to do that I will support 351 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:23,000 that effort wholeheartedly all I'm saying is that my legal recommendation 352 00:32:20,679 --> 00:32:29,039 is that we not do that until we receive some specific concrete you know written 353 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:35,480 instruction as to these are the step get commission alri so Kevin what 354 00:32:32,679 --> 00:32:40,799 specific or nonspecific reply did you get from them the response that I 355 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,799 received was does the city intend to adopt a letter and does the city intend 356 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,240 to hold a public hearing and I said my response to that was the city will 357 00:32:46,639 --> 00:32:51,240 consider whatever requirements are imposed can you tell me what 358 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:55,159 specifically will be required of the city uh so that we can assess our 359 00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:00,480 options before decide what to you know how to move forward and I've not 360 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:07,159 received any a specific response however after that email exchange I was told uh 361 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:11,080 a staff attorney from the bill writer's office will be reaching out to you and I 362 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:15,880 received a email from the bill writer Bill writer's office asking for specific 363 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:20,399 parcel information which the city's already prepared um I forwarded that on 364 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:25,360 and asked the same question of the bill writer you know what if anything is 365 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:31,639 going to be required by the city before a bill can be introduced uh and timately 366 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:37,320 put into committee and voted on and i' not received a specific response to that 367 00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,320 request 368 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:42,720 to all right any other 369 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:51,159 questions all right commissioner kachinsky I'll go back to you and your 370 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:56,760 motion if you would like to make it I make a motion that this board 371 00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:05,919 votes to send a letter to the legislature to ask them to consider for 372 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,919 legislation the expansion of the city's 373 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:13,839 boundaries is that it I know that commissioner Wilkins had 374 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:19,399 a request what was your request graph of the as far as taxes grandfather them as 375 00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:25,839 far as taxes what does that mean yes that means anybody currently in donut 376 00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:31,480 holds wouldn't be included until until 202 377 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:36,399 until it's a change of property 2025 yeah until change of property like the 378 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,240 owner of the home yes no oh what's the point that's what's the point what's the 379 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:44,000 point of doing it we're trying to increase the revenue for the city so we 380 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:48,839 can afford to help the point of is I don't think it's fair to hammer somebody 381 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:53,119 with tax hang on hang on no we'll just discuss yeah yeah I know but I'm I'm 382 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:58,440 going to get it to where we know which way it's going here commissioner I mean 383 00:34:55,919 --> 00:35:03,960 mayor proen has made a motion M Mr Wilkins has made an amendment to the 384 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:09,520 motion yes sir so we don't do these very often so I'm not real clear we do the 385 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:13,480 amendment first got to ask if I accept the 386 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:17,400 amendment decide whether that whether that amendment is something she's 387 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:22,599 comfortable withing to her motion or not right we'll then put it to a vote uh 388 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:28,359 depending on the results of that a new motion could be made which would would 389 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:33,920 include I got you now okay so you are not comfortable with his 390 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:39,040 Amendment the point of this is for everybody to pay their fair share if you 391 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:43,960 are getting services from the city of creedmore without paying which what is 392 00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:47,760 what all these properties are doing right 393 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:51,880 now I'm paying for their services you're paying for their services and they're 394 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:57,440 paying nothing everybody needs to pay their fair share the city of creedmore 395 00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:03,400 is trying to maintain the services that we offer to the citizens who pay for it 396 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:08,880 and the ones that are not paying for it are um the ones that are not paying for 397 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:14,599 services are getting the services that is the point of this and that was the 398 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:19,280 Senator's point we we're not getting enough the fire department needs a 399 00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:23,160 firehouse and and the state can't provide the funding to them unless they 400 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:29,720 know the city has done everything that they could do to get the revenue they're 401 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:35,119 entitled to and we're not so as far as who is and who isn't I'm not sure that's 402 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:40,880 up to the legislators and whatever the law says but I'm willing to let them 403 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:46,359 take a look at it and see what's going to happen um these these people have 404 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,160 lived in these Pro most of these properties if I'm not mistaken are 405 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:55,160 undeveloped so there are people that are living in 406 00:36:53,359 --> 00:37:00,400 some of them but a lot most of them are undeveloped and the point is 407 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:05,560 we're going to start growing we need to get that Revenue in place now um we're 408 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,240 not talking Millions we're not talking hundreds of thousands we're just talking 409 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,520 a small amount of Revenue that will help the city which we could use to help the 410 00:37:12,359 --> 00:37:20,520 fire department and that is why we're doing this we're trying to 411 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:25,599 um get the revenue the city's entitled and to quote someone else everybody has 412 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:30,570 to pay their fair share and that's why I'm doing it so I 413 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:35,760 can't accept that Amendment I'm [Music] 414 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:41,760 sorry I put the chief of police on the 415 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:47,000 spot just woke him up Chief said what but Chief would you have any idea how 416 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,000 many clothes you do like on night 417 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,720 Street I wouldn't say on night Street specifically I 418 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,280 would um [Music] 419 00:37:58,839 --> 00:38:07,040 the people in dutchville Pay 6% fire 420 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:13,280 C so they are paying for the fire service not paying as much as us but 421 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:18,160 they're paying 6% fire tax to the count to the 422 00:38:14,319 --> 00:38:24,280 county um again I if we vote on this motion I want to 423 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:29,079 vote one by one because I want to say why I'm voting just to get away from us 424 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,920 uh Mr Wilkins yeah I just want to restate for the record I'm very 425 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:36,760 uncomfortable not including the grandfather clause I don't want people 426 00:38:34,359 --> 00:38:40,599 to get hit with additional taxes I just want to make sure I were clear on it 427 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:46,119 okay now as I have explained to them mayor Pro Tim we can do this that we're 428 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:51,720 we know where we're at we can do it as a vote or a consensus I think the general 429 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:56,560 feeling is to do it as consensus which will accomplish the same thing at the 430 00:38:53,680 --> 00:39:03,079 vote so and Kevin will draw up the letter and just were clear if that was a 431 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:07,760 specific this does not require a formal vote this could be okay and who we know 432 00:39:05,839 --> 00:39:15,160 where this requirement is this a requirement imposed by this is a request 433 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:21,440 from imposed by this this is a request from Senator bod and to uh uh 434 00:39:19,319 --> 00:39:28,200 representative winsler okay she said between the two of them they work 435 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:34,079 on Mr to dra letter well I would I would request that Mr I I would like our City 436 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:39,119 attorney to do it then I want it done by the end of this week problem and if you 437 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,839 would send it to the city manager and we'll go from there that way if he has 438 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:49,119 any questions or once he sends it out we can address them as promly as possible 439 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:53,720 all right now we've got a motion on the floor do you want to leave it on the 440 00:39:50,839 --> 00:39:58,200 floor or withdraw it no I want to um leave it on we don't need a vote we need 441 00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:03,319 a consensus well that's why you have to remove your your motion all right I will 442 00:40:01,319 --> 00:40:06,880 remove my motion all right now you can State what you would like us to do just 443 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:13,560 don't make a motion I would like us to um instruct 444 00:40:10,359 --> 00:40:20,000 the city manager to draft a letter stating that the city of creedmore is 445 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:23,960 requesting this um just asking the city send us a letter so we can have it in 446 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:30,880 support of the annexation and there's an 447 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:35,480 email um um in your email from one of our legislators to that effect I'm Sor 448 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:39,359 and I want the letter done by the end of the week was that city manager or right 449 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,800 that's what I was going to say you said city manager oh I'm sorry City attorney 450 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,200 not city manager I'm sorry who is this address 451 00:40:48,640 --> 00:41:00,400 toat I do it to those two those to commissioner Wilkins you good okay 452 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:06,720 we have a request to the board by the mayor Pro 453 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,599 Tim we're just basically and everybody I I know has heard it so we're looking for 454 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:15,040 a consensus commissioner BCE 455 00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:24,720 you I will say I agree that we close the donor hold okay that's good enough 456 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:29,440 yes yes I agree okay so there's your consensus all right now I feel better 457 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:38,079 about that and okay we move on to item 458 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:41,480 10A uh the bro law firm mou city manager the city of creemore initially entered 459 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:48,119 into a memorandum of understanding with the Bros Law Firm on March 2016 this 460 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:52,920 original agreement expired on June 30 2017 copy is included in the agenda 461 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:56,560 package for the board following its expiration the parties have continued to 462 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,920 abide by the terms of the original memorandum 463 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:04,920 except in so far as the city approved an updated compensation structure in 464 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,720 2022 the purpose of this new memor is set forth the understanding between the 465 00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:12,200 parties concerning the nature of the relationship under which the law firm 466 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:17,160 serves as a City attorney to replace the original memorandum the current 467 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:24,839 compensation rate of $215 per hour will continue through June 30 2024 the new 468 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:29,599 compensation rate of $225 per hour will become effective July 1 2024 and run 469 00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:34,040 through June 30 of 2025 this memorandum Shall Serve shall 470 00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:37,640 govern the relationship between the parties for the period beginning on the 471 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:41,200 effective date of this memorandum and continue for a three-year period through 472 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:46,640 June 30 2027 at which time it will automatically 473 00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:50,160 renew for one year terms unless termin terminated 10day termination in writing 474 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,640 by either party board approval a motion would be 475 00:42:52,359 --> 00:42:57,880 an order to approve the proposed memorandum and authorize the manager to 476 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,000 execute um and that that agreement is in the 477 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:09,520 package for the board I know you've had time to review that yes okay 478 00:43:04,359 --> 00:43:17,720 um at this time any questions Mr Wilkins Comm Albright No 479 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:24,160 Sir Mr gon Mo mayor Pro him no sir all right not hearing any discussion we have 480 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:31,200 a motion to if I oh I'm sorry you all hopefully also receive an email updated 481 00:43:26,839 --> 00:43:38,119 version of theou uh after the agenda was published I recognized that there was a 482 00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:42,000 provision in theou that likely that has left out that probably should have been 483 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:47,359 included that discusses amendments to theou and compens services schedule the 484 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:53,520 version that I sent you all I believe last Thursday maybe last Wednesday was 485 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:58,400 uh included a paragraph 8 that would allow the memorandum of understanding 486 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:03,720 and the compensation proc Services form to be amended by written agreement 487 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:09,319 between our firm and the city subject to uh approval by majority vote of the 488 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:15,119 board um and it would also allow this board in the future the chooses to to uh 489 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:19,680 delegate the city manager the authority to negotiate and approve those sorts of 490 00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:25,559 amendments uh again if the board wanted to take that action um but again I think 491 00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:30,839 from what I understand anyway a lot of this concern that has that that has 492 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:35,280 gotten us to this point has been about how things have changed over the years 493 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:40,200 and and how formal or informal those changes have been so I wanted to make 494 00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:44,119 sure that any updated memorandum of understanding will provide a process by 495 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:51,319 which those sorts of amendments or changes need to be done just so that you 496 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,319 we create a clearer record moving 497 00:44:51,520 --> 00:45:00,599 forward all right at this time I'll entertain a motion to approve the broad 498 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:06,160 Law Firm new and updated memorandum of understanding and authorize the city 499 00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:13,160 manager to execute so Move Motion is made by commissioner Wilkins all those 500 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:18,559 in favor say I I oppose no motion carries 501 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,559 420 Kevin thank 502 00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:28,079 you all right let me find my little sheet there that I have since 503 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:34,319 lost all right I got that and we move on to discussion items uh 504 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:40,880 11a mayor protim requested board discussion on closing Sanderford 505 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:47,240 Street for the operation of creed Moore's Farmers Market mayor Pro 10 so 506 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:52,599 some time ago one of our citizens brought to our attention that um there 507 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,040 was an issue with the farmers market that's being operated down at the 508 00:45:54,119 --> 00:46:01,079 American Legion and I suggest at that time if we 509 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:05,960 could close off actually there was a discussion amongst all board members 510 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:10,960 close off sanord Street and allow the farmers market to be here or in this 511 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:19,200 parking lot cuz there's not really a lot going on in the parking lot on Saturdays 512 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:26,520 so um I would like us to give this a whirl and see if we can do it and move 513 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:29,920 the Creed more Farmers Market to um it's shut down down Sanford Street so people 514 00:46:28,359 --> 00:46:33,760 could walk it they could park in our parking lot and walk there we could they 515 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:39,119 could set up Booth all up and down Sanford and we would set an set 516 00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:44,720 times uh so it wouldn't be the entire day maybe from 9 I don't know what it 517 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:48,800 was when it was at the community center I think it was like from 9 until 2 or 3 518 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:54,520 or something I thought it was like 9 to 12 9 to 12 something like that yeah set 519 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:59,800 it up so that it's just a certain amount of hours we don't want to inconvenience 520 00:46:56,319 --> 00:47:05,280 everybody all day long but I would like to see our Farmers Market get back up to 521 00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:09,400 where it was and um and I know that John would like to 522 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:15,000 see it do a little bit better than it was and let's we can try it uh does that 523 00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:18,720 mean shutting down the one at the American Legion I have no idea if 524 00:47:16,839 --> 00:47:22,839 anybody asked me that question I don't know the answer to that I don't want to 525 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:27,119 run competition I don't want to argue with anybody um whoever's down at the 526 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:31,400 farmers market by the American Legion is welcome to come up here and just do it 527 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:37,839 on Saturdays here she can do it there on Wednesdays if if they want to but that's 528 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:42,319 just my idea if um the chief or Mr frango sees any problem like shutting 529 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:48,160 down Sanderford on street if we're going to violate any rules laws it's our 530 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:53,040 street so I think we can do it and we would probably need a banner that said 531 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:58,040 CREAM more Farmer Market and we could put the time on it we could get uh 532 00:47:56,119 --> 00:48:02,319 removable pieces so that we could change the time if we needed it Kevin any 533 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:07,599 problem with us shutting down one of our own streets for a certain amount of 534 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:12,400 time as long as nobody doesn't pay attention and runs everybody over well 535 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:18,280 that would be a problem I think provided that you the city is Sovereign over the 536 00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:23,599 city streets so we probably need to close it beyond the ATM machine just for 537 00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:27,440 citizen convenience I I'll leave the contract 538 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:33,079 question atic I 539 00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:35,760 don't what you thinking commiss wils I just want to ask the chief I don't put 540 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,940 you on the spot will this would this cause any undue burden to your 541 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,989 department I'm [Music] 542 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:52,359 good any commissioner Albright any questions mayor PR I've heard from 543 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:59,079 commissioner gleon no but I'll make a motion that 544 00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:07,480 we close Sanford Street for Farmers Market city manager do you see any 545 00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:15,960 issues or and and as long as we can find somebody to run it we're not going to 546 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,960 run the farmers market it's going to be 547 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:28,599 a city manager do you know of any issues or reasons that we couldn't do this or 548 00:49:24,799 --> 00:49:32,960 should we uh kind of do some of the leg work before 549 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:38,319 we actually vote on this well typically F markets have signs 550 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:43,760 they have um barricades that got to be put out on the street um there's maybe 551 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:47,640 tents put up or the vendors bring their own tents there may be some logistical 552 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,760 things that need to be thought through um I don't know if any other issues if 553 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:57,000 Chief says he's okay with it Chief do you have any problems with 554 00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:04,960 this I would just ask if Police Department is going to be required 555 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,960 to if something 556 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:14,640 happens resp well my question along with that is 557 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:20,000 not only barricades but what happens if two 558 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:25,319 Merchants enter into a discussion it means they start throwing 559 00:50:22,839 --> 00:50:32,200 things and kicking ass and all that other stuff they can do the American 560 00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:32,200 right but here it will be under our 561 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:38,680 responsibility I think I might I suggest that maybe an 562 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:42,480 appropriate motion would be to direct the city manager to start to work 563 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:46,599 through the logistics of closing down the street uh making it available for 564 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,960 use for Farmers that way we don't have to we don't have to address all of the 565 00:50:48,359 --> 00:50:55,680 specific questions tonight we can just ask the city manager and the staff I'd 566 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:59,720 like to make sure we know exactly what needs to be in place place 567 00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:04,640 because you know with businesses you're in my spot well I was 568 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:09,920 here last time no yeah but I was here today you know it's just too many things 569 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:14,920 that could go wrong so i' I'd like us to be sure exactly all the eyes are not in 570 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:19,160 the teas are cross I'll amend my motion to be with 571 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:23,520 C okay why don't we just withdraw the motion and instruct the city manager and 572 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:29,599 then he can bring it back at the at the work at the work session be so you 573 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:34,400 withdraw your motion yep somebody commissioner I mean mayor proten so I 574 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:39,680 wasn't saying to do it tomorrow Mike and it's not going to be this Saturday I 575 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:44,760 understand that stop it um Kevin do you think that do do you 576 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,319 think we would be required to have waivers for 577 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:54,960 anybody well I think that that that will depend largely on how is it structured 578 00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:59,079 if if this heads down pass where this is a city sponsored event 579 00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:04,920 that I think we would probably need waivers you know some 580 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:09,680 guidelines however if the city is simply making making space available that's all 581 00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:14,319 we're doing um and and there's somebody else who is kind of taking that 582 00:52:11,319 --> 00:52:20,119 logistical and organizational control I don't I think we might want to have some 583 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:27,160 sort of liability W with the organizer in place but um I don't think that we 584 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:33,400 would need um what individual with the um right music F I don't think it 585 00:52:30,359 --> 00:52:36,880 provided that the city is not similarly kind of sponsoring an orchestrate the 586 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:42,720 event I don't think we need the same level 587 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:48,799 of individual application each each but I I kind of would like to have a set 588 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:53,440 rules you know that you need to certain things to protect what we already have 589 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:57,000 out there I think that sounds reason and like I said I think that that that's 590 00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:01,280 something that would fall under kind of the master agreements between whoever is 591 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:06,319 responsible for organizing the event you we would say these are the city's rules 592 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:10,359 you are responsible for enforcing them amongst your participants in the event 593 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:14,599 that any of these rules are violated the city reserves a right to shut down the 594 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:20,000 event and to not open the street for use in the future 595 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:25,520 okay ex exactly all right Mr city manager you got all that yes yes sir I 596 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:30,400 do okay that I'll right with everybody kind of consensus thing 597 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:34,640 again mayor protim let me compliment you on that idea I've been for years trying 598 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:38,319 to figure out how we could get them from there to the community center but this 599 00:53:36,799 --> 00:53:45,119 will work great um okay number 12 city manager 600 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:49,839 report Mr Mayor mayor Pro Tim members of the board 601 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:53,119 um in addition to the reports that you've received from all the department 602 00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:56,559 heads I have a few items I'd like to update the board on Johnson Controls 603 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:01,559 began the installation of the new new electronic door control system March the 604 00:53:58,839 --> 00:54:08,319 25th and the project is expected to be completed within uh 2 to 3 605 00:54:04,359 --> 00:54:11,920 weeks um I spoke with Mr Daniel saki assistant manager at the buner State 606 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:17,559 Employees Credit Union and he has given the city written confirmation to place 607 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:22,240 two picnic tables on their leas property at the cash points ATM located at 110 608 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:25,599 sanderfer Street the Butner State Employees Credit Union will continue the 609 00:54:23,799 --> 00:54:31,920 Landscaping Maintenance with their current ground vendors Richard Avent 610 00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:36,799 with a DC3 has received another quote for the conversion of cable fiber optic 611 00:54:33,799 --> 00:54:41,400 to City Hall from AT&T their quote was $1,304 a month for the same Services 612 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,520 spectrum is offering they don't own the cable so they'd have to lease it and 613 00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:49,040 then Mark that up and that's why the price is higher Spectrum was offering 614 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:55,000 625 per month the price is double because AT&T does not own their own 615 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:58,480 fiber uh bc3 also check with Frontier and they do not own fiber optics in the 616 00:54:56,599 --> 00:55:02,880 area so they've done their due diligence trying to help us find an alternative 617 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:07,720 option two hours after the agenda went out this past Thursday uh we received 618 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:14,240 even a lower monthly quote from Spectrum governmental representative uh who gave 619 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:18,400 us a price of $499 per month on a 60-month agreement so I've asked them to 620 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:24,640 forward the contract I docy signed that today so we can proceed with 621 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:29,000 that according to vc3 executive summary and and couple meetings ago the board 622 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:32,760 asked for updates on the vc3 if there's anything going on of Interest or changes 623 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:38,200 in the prices of the contractual agreement that the board approved uh 624 00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:43,240 during the month of March 2024 19 incident requests were opened and 20 625 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:49,359 were closed the reason tickets were opened varied from access requested 626 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:54,640 access Ransom wire issues email errors performance issues fishing Etc there is 627 00:55:52,839 --> 00:55:58,930 no change in the contract amount for the services during this period which I 628 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,920 mentioned was through March [Music] 629 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:07,559 31 several options for spring baners have been identified through our Baner 630 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:11,920 vendor for the seasonal placement of Main Street and the entrances to many 631 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:17,640 subdivisions for fy2 there's four colorful samples at 632 00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:22,960 each one of your workstations uh that give you the examples of what's been 633 00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:28,280 submitted um creedmore city of Etc can be added or left off any and all those I 634 00:56:26,839 --> 00:56:31,280 so there's a couple of different options and if you want to give me your thoughts 635 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:35,920 on that later that would be great but I want to show share those with 636 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:40,079 you the City attorney has been asked to move forward with filing a notice of 637 00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:44,760 hearing on the city's City's entry of default judgment on property located 638 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:51,359 near the intersection of NC Highway 56 Crescent Drive in Holly School 639 00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:55,039 Road uh the 24 2 2014 fiberglass pedal boats declared Surface by the manager 640 00:56:53,160 --> 00:57:00,359 due to wear tear and unserviceability were auctioned off on go deals the 641 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:05,160 highest bid for the boats total $900 and was awarded to Mr Jerry Watkins of 642 00:57:02,319 --> 00:57:10,720 middlesburg Kentucky uh he has made payment to deal go deal waiting his 643 00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:15,440 payment to go through to come to us and then Mr Watkins will come in from 644 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:22,079 Kentucky and pick these boats up the new city county Grant granch Rider started 645 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:25,920 yesterday um I talked with him and Terry hobgood today who's overseeing Grant 646 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:32,559 Management for the Granville County uh we have our meeting Tuesday evening 647 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:37,119 about 3:00 me and Mr frangos and finance director and a few others to talk about 648 00:57:34,839 --> 00:57:41,119 creedmore and what our priorities are for him getting 649 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:46,319 started uh and I will have him on your may I believe it's the May agenda uh to 650 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:49,119 introduce him to the board uh and I mentioned earlier to some some of the 651 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:54,400 board members Public Works were today replaced all the 6 in street signs along 652 00:57:51,319 --> 00:58:01,960 Main Street with the larger 9in sign blades at Douglas Park Fleming M Masonic 653 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:07,920 Dogwood Rogers and whiteall streets subject to your questions that concludes 654 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:07,920 my comments any questions for the city 655 00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:11,760 manager all 656 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:23,160 right let's see mayor Pro 10 you have the pleasure tonight of the siga 657 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:31,000 report um we had a finance committee meeting at the guasa and I believe that 658 00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:38,160 our next meeting a proposal to the board for um the budget for the next year will 659 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,160 be coming uh coming 660 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:47,599 out and um then there'll be a public hearing and the budget for Wason will 661 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:52,280 have to be approved 662 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:56,760 by I think our July 1 also but we usually get it done earlier um I do 663 00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:02,720 understand that at the last meeting when I was not 664 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:08,599 there um the board voted to agree to hire an assistant executive 665 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:13,920 director for sigua and um I don't know where we are 666 00:59:11,799 --> 00:59:21,160 in that process because like I said I wasn't at that meeting but that's all I 667 00:59:17,799 --> 00:59:25,760 have so um there was a line break on Church Street though another line break 668 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:32,880 on Church Street and it's the third one in same area since 669 00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:36,520 2011 so I uh it was supposed to be repaired today but I don't have 670 00:59:34,359 --> 00:59:41,119 confirmation on that I do know that I did ask the executive director why to 671 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:45,839 keep breaking in the same place or within 1,800 ft of the same place and 672 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:51,839 maybe we need to take a a bigger look down the line so we don't keep having 673 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:56,559 these all right we'll move on any questions for the 674 00:59:54,079 --> 01:00:00,079 sigas not hearing any we move on to commissioner's report we'll start with 675 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:05,200 commissioner Wilkins on Wednesday March the 12th I 676 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:09,760 attended the Vance committee meeting all the members were present and we 677 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:13,839 discussed most in time meeting various options for continuing to raise 678 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:18,319 donations for veterans Monument that's all I have sir all right commissioner 679 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:29,000 c i attended the uh cartar Cog meeting on Thursday 680 01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:39,760 um there was a presentation that they did um they did a again a five County 681 01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:46,240 study on emergency facility needs assessment um I know 682 01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:51,000 since I've been in town I've been pushing to get a emergency plan for the 683 01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:56,400 city of creedmore um which I thought I saw 684 01:00:53,760 --> 01:01:06,559 something in the budget maybe that to work on that this plan which was given 685 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:12,160 to all of the Emergency Management directors of the 686 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:17,039 counties in the cartar they are then supposed to share 687 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:24,599 it I guess with the local municipalities um I know we're now in a 688 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:31,599 Bad season we're in a season where stuff can hit the fan 689 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:35,920 um so I just want to make sure that if we follow up with the carar and make 690 01:01:33,319 --> 01:01:40,880 sure that the Granville County or Granville County Emergency 691 01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:47,319 Management gives us a copy of this this was more designed to find out where we 692 01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:53,559 where there was a need for facilities if it hit the fan where do 693 01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:58,720 people go I know a couple years back we had an ice storm here to was off for 694 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:04,079 almost 24 hours and everybody I called said oh you can't use that you can't use 695 01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:11,279 this you can't use that so again this has been started by them we can take 696 01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:18,559 that assessment and maybe build from it uh the other thing that I have is 697 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:23,200 Manny Agger who's a member of the DGI committee his brother passed away on 698 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:27,839 Sunday so we should just keep him in our prayer that's it Mr Al 699 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:37,640 um I attended the cprc meeting on the 21st of March and uh we actually had um 700 01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:39,920 a young lady Dennis do you remember her first 701 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:48,599 name oh did she um who came to the meeting and said that she was a uh 702 01:02:46,359 --> 01:02:52,520 realtor in the creedmore area and she wanted to be more involved with her 703 01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:56,359 family and and get to know what was going on a little bit more so she 704 01:02:54,000 --> 01:03:00,839 actually joined the cprc she gave uh she sold out her application with 705 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:04,960 Dennis after um our meeting so that was really nice she was a nice young lady so 706 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:12,039 we're looking forward to having her on the 707 01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:18,880 team um I did mention to uh Dennis that I would like to consult with the board 708 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:23,680 and and kind of bring up some new um I don't know if you want to call them 709 01:03:19,799 --> 01:03:29,480 activities or events at the end of the day uh Monday through 710 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:35,599 Thursday uh well actually Thursdays 600 to9 is pickle ball which is fine but 711 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:42,119 Monday through Wednesday um from 6:00 till 9: at night we either have 712 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:45,920 basketball from 600 or from 3:00 to 6:00 or from 6:00 to 9 there's private 713 01:03:43,799 --> 01:03:51,640 rentals so for the members of our community center there is 714 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:55,799 nothing for us to do in the gym Monday through 715 01:03:52,599 --> 01:04:00,400 Wednesday so you either have to walk or around the track which is 716 01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:06,240 great or you have to use the gym equipment or there's a fitness class but 717 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:12,119 as for using the gym itself it's either already 718 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:19,000 rented or there's basketball for 3 hours from 3:00 to 6:00 in the 719 01:04:14,279 --> 01:04:23,680 afternoon so I told Dennis that I would like to consult with us to see if maybe 720 01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:28,799 we could suggest that there is some more activities for people that have 721 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:32,000 memberships that that work during the day that can't do these other things 722 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:37,680 that are offered during the day which are all great the tots and and open gym 723 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:43,920 and and things like that but I would just like to see some more activities 724 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:49,039 for members in the evening well and I understand your issues but to also 725 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:54,559 remember that these rentals help pay for a lot of that stuff that membership 726 01:04:51,160 --> 01:05:00,079 doesn't quite cover so we don't it's kind of hesitant to suggest we eliminate 727 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:05,799 a rental in order for other for membership activities when 728 01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:11,039 there are other terms for that now there's but not everybody can go in 729 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:15,880 during the day though right and I think it you know I pickle ball on Thursday 730 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:20,799 nights from 6:00 to 9:00 is awesome and I think it's being well taken um 731 01:05:17,799 --> 01:05:25,240 advantage of I think Dennis can uh agree with me for with that 732 01:05:22,839 --> 01:05:32,119 um but you know like it'd be nice to have like maybe an adult volleyball um 733 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:39,839 open gym or you know maybe some dodgeball or something you know extra 734 01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:43,880 for the people that can't make the dur you know the things during the day that 735 01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:51,279 also pay memberships that I think should have some type 736 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:56,240 of say in maybe what goes on so that's just my thoughts than what what do you 737 01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:00,880 do you have any thoughts Mr I wouldn't want to do anything with the basketball 738 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:06,240 as a Cornerstone of the community uh it's one of the reasons I pushed for the 739 01:06:02,359 --> 01:06:10,760 gym back in 2015 19 I wouldn't want to touch that at all I hear what you're 740 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:14,279 saying I don't know where we can get the uh time 741 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,480 place mayor 742 01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:29,880 Pro all right so I attended March Mayhem where badges vers versus the 743 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:35,599 Vikings it was an excellent excellent time our the uh from what I understand 744 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:39,319 the Granville County Sheriff's Office forfeited because they were afraid they 745 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:44,279 were going to get slaughtered by the creedmore police 746 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:49,160 department that's just my opinion that's not EXA they did forfeit but I don't 747 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:54,440 know why I'd have paid extra money to see the sheriff out there playing 748 01:06:51,839 --> 01:07:01,599 basketball but our chief and our Police Department held their own they did a 749 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:05,079 great job um the students won in the in the long run the students won but I'm 750 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:09,799 going to tell you something they fought really hard towards the end to try to 751 01:07:07,559 --> 01:07:16,400 win that game and I'm very proud of you guys and you raised $1,000 for um 752 01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:23,039 juvenile diabetes yes yeah it was very good very well attended I think um I am 753 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:27,079 attending the Community Police Academy which I'm in my fifth week of that and 754 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:33,839 it is very interesting um Jessica laws has 755 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:37,240 organized it extremely well students from South Grenville High School are 756 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:43,319 attending they want to be police officers and the information that we've 757 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:49,240 learned is I was amazed at our last at our last class seeing some of the toys 758 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:53,319 that our detectives have um I attended the Main Street conference with 759 01:07:50,839 --> 01:07:57,760 commissioner alright and the mayor in Goldsboro and we had a great time there 760 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:03,799 met some good vendors I attended the CPR class at the 761 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:10,480 community center so now I have got my CPR thumbs up I went to visit Wilma the 762 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:15,960 new store on Main Street Garden Center uh Debbie Rogers happened to be there it 763 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:20,880 was a Saturday and it's a very nice shop if you want to pick up some plants or a 764 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:25,480 gift for somebody last minute we don't have too many gift shops on Main Street 765 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:30,759 but it's an option and she's off offering some pretty good classes from 766 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:36,319 what I see on Facebook um Sunnyside on Main I have become a regular at that 767 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:41,040 place and the food is superb if you haven't tried it yet you need to go give 768 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:47,480 it a try cuz they're doing very well and I love the Roosters on Main 769 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:53,839 Street yeah they do stand out thank you ma'am uh let's see I have attended the 770 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:59,799 Campo meeting also the Main Street conference which should have been a two 771 01:08:56,759 --> 01:09:05,920 nights day turned out to be two days of driving from creedmore to Goldsboro back 772 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:11,719 Creed more about Goldsboro because Hampton in has a diamond card system 773 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:16,960 that guarantees you a room and if you're the mayor it doesn't mean anything cuz I 774 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:23,679 got bumped and my reservation got cancelled um I also W i' also attended 775 01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:29,839 March Mayhem and I again was impressed especially with the chief really held 776 01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:36,679 his own against those young people um old well he's older than the 777 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:42,319 students um and there does need to honorary coach I tried to tell them that 778 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:48,040 but they didn't listen um we need to do something about the filing at the end of 779 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:54,040 the game that that didn't work well um I also want to congratulate pars and wreck 780 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:58,760 for a very successful Easter egg hunt um I think it went well 781 01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:04,400 um I understand that there were some Easter egg hunters that were a little 782 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:09,960 older than they should have been but uh I realize we can't really ask for 783 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:14,840 IDs but it it worked out well and I think the kids all had a good time so 784 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:20,280 that covers me is there anything else needs to come before the board tonight 785 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:26,760 just one more thing I'm sorry mayor pro thank 786 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:32,719 you our community director would you like to tell us the some good 787 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:38,679 news do we have any projects that we've been waiting for that have finally been 788 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:42,800 done I won't say completed I'll say done it's like a de headlights yeah he does 789 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:48,679 you refering to Furbo and 790 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:52,560 Clifton we're still not talking about those we're not talking about those as 791 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:56,239 done there is still work to be done you will get a summary when it's complete 792 01:10:54,679 --> 01:11:01,320 from not yet okay I thought you said it was 793 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:05,960 done I I I was I was waiting for you to make the big 794 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:11,920 announcement okay all right anything else Comm Bon you have anything no make 795 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:15,760 a motion we go to close session we have a motion by commissioner gleon to go 796 01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:22,760 into Clos session all those in favor say I I oppose no we are into CL session 797 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:34,280 met these mother oh yeah yeah County Board yeah yeah I met her too she's 798 01:11:30,679 --> 01:11:34,280 really nice yeah 799 01:11:39,070 --> 01:11:44,480 [Music] yeah congratul