1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 foreign 2 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:30,320 good evening ladies and gentlemen i'd like to call the march 7 2022 crest hill 3 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,640 city council meeting to order if everyone would please rise for the 4 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:34,640 pledge of allegiance to the flag 5 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,520 i pledge allegiance to the flag to the united 6 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:53,680 states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god 7 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,680 indivisible with liberty and justice for all 8 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,400 roll call police chris 9 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:13,600 ray solomon here glenn conklin president scott dyke here john basha here dorell 10 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:17,439 jefferson yeah claudia here keen oberlin president marcus petey here nate albert 11 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,920 here joe kubal here thank you okay we do not have a business 12 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,600 promotion this evening so we'll uh proceed with the agenda items first on 13 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:30,880 the agenda is the approval of the minutes from the 14 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:36,159 city council meeting held on february 22nd 2022 motion would be in 15 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,159 order 16 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:41,680 second we have a motion by alderman albert seconded by alderweireld gazelle 17 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:46,079 for the approval of the city council meeting 18 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:50,159 uh minutes of february 22nd 2022 questions or comments 19 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:54,799 roll call please scott dice yes john rasheed yes darrell jefferson yes 20 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:54,799 claudia gasol 21 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,880 yes nate albert yes joe kubal yes welcome carrie thank you 22 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:05,280 and you also have before you the minutes of the crest hill work session held on 23 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:08,720 february 28 2022 motion would be in order 24 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,160 so second we have motioned by other woman 25 00:02:10,399 --> 00:02:16,879 gazelle seconded by alderman albert for the approval of the 26 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:21,040 work session held on february 28 2022 questions or comments 27 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:25,760 roll call police john vashey yes darrell jefferson yes claudia goes all yes tina 28 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:30,879 oberlin yes mark zappedy yes nate albert yes joe cuba yes scott dyke yes motion 29 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:35,480 carries thank you okay moving along to our city attorney mike steph good 30 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:35,480 evening mike 31 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,959 any questions of 32 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,840 city attorney thanks mike 33 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,440 moving on to our city administrator jim marino good evening jim good evening 34 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:50,400 mayor and council i have two items before you tonight 35 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:55,280 the first one is regarding human resources manager position i've provided 36 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:59,040 you with a memo that i'll review well-run organizations are capable of 37 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,800 candid self-evaluation are committed to continuous improvement the duty of my 38 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:06,400 position is to direct the efficient and productive administration of all city 39 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:10,720 departments to improve operations and workflow streamline procedures become 40 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,400 more efficient reduce costs and provide exceptional services 41 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,800 to residents having observed the organization and its operations it's my 42 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:23,599 assessment that is necessary to restructure some operations modify job 43 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,400 responsibilities or reassign tasks and meet the business needs of the 44 00:03:24,799 --> 00:03:29,920 organization and better serve the community 45 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:34,159 one area in need of restructuring human resources manager position the functions 46 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:37,599 of this position can be restructured to better meet our needs 47 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,840 typical municipality of our size does not have a dedicated human resources 48 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,720 position instead they have an assistant manager position that may have some 49 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,760 management level human resources responsibilities 50 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:54,080 with other hr functions spread among other positions 51 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,439 so for that reason i feel would better serve the 52 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:01,760 city if we restructured and reassigned some duties and reassigned some of the 53 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:07,280 hr duties that we now have to other individuals therefore no longer needing 54 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:11,680 the position of human resources manager so i would recommend the position be 55 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:16,320 eliminated you have before you donate a ordinance that would eliminate that 56 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:20,320 position some move is presented second motion by other person oberlin seconded 57 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:24,000 by all their woman gazal for the ordinance discontinued office of the 58 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,759 human resource management replacement chapter 2.30 59 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:31,040 of the crest hill city called questions or comments 60 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,880 roll call please carrell jefferson abstain 61 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:45,759 claudia gazelle yes tina oberlin yes mark zupiti yes nate 62 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:51,479 albert yes joe cool yes scott dyke yes john richard yes motion carries ordnance 63 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:51,479 1894. 64 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:59,899 [Applause] 65 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:12,560 the other item i have for you is the city center audio visual system proposal 66 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:17,120 we discussed this at the work session last week 67 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,919 this past week after that work session i met with 68 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,759 low voltage solutions who's here in the audience in the audience tonight along 69 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,720 with other staff members at the city center 70 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:32,400 we reviewed their proposal and walked through the facility and identified some 71 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:36,479 changes that we needed to make and based on that we were able to see 72 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:41,520 some cost savings and a result of as a result of that uh 73 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:46,639 the price change so what i gave you in the packet on friday um wasn't the 74 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:50,320 correct proposal at that time because lbs didn't have the final number so i 75 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:55,440 sent that to you today so and you should have been at the dais 76 00:05:53,199 --> 00:06:02,479 and that number actually was a little incorrect the actual number for the base 77 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,479 system total is 308 930 78 00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:11,199 and then there's also an option to uh 79 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,160 included the assistant assisted living system 80 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,880 assisted listening system sorry for the council chambers 81 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:25,600 so what you have is a revised proposal i'll have uh eric from lvs come up in a 82 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:30,479 moment go through the proposal with you this uh was a proposal it wasn't a uh a 83 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,280 formal bidding process so since it was a proposal 84 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,039 the council would have to waive competitive bidding so the resolution 85 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:41,440 you have before you tonight waives competitive bidding and just so you know 86 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:47,360 for in order for that to be approved it requires two-thirds vote in order to 87 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:50,319 approve the competitive bidding so with that i'll ask eric 88 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:53,280 to come up with eric silver from low voltage 89 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,720 solutions he'll go through the proposal and then 90 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:00,720 answer any questions you may have good evening everyone and thank you very 91 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,599 much for taking the time um there's a lot of details in here so i'm gonna try 92 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,560 to keep it as basic and rudimentary uh as we possibly 93 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,240 can here for you uh if at any point in time you guys have any questions please 94 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:18,800 don't hesitate to stop and ask uh happy to do so 95 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:23,120 um recovering uh quite a bit of uh uh facility space within your new uh 96 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,400 facility uh which ironically is right up the road from us uh you're the city of 97 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,520 neighbors we are fortunate to be your neighbor literally right up the road 98 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:34,479 from you guys um we will be delivering uh 99 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:39,360 21st century state of the art fully digital fully commercial 100 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:44,560 fully reputable three-year backed warranty uh manufacturers 101 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:49,039 uh with technology throughout uh a variety of different spaces 102 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:52,960 some of these spaces uh starting with some of the the more basic solutions are 103 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:57,919 going to be uh some information signage uh display 104 00:07:55,039 --> 00:08:02,639 monitors uh in certain strategic lobby areas 105 00:07:59,039 --> 00:08:06,800 uh consisting of uh pc driven content delivering uh high definition actually 106 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,000 ultra high definition content uh to those who will be visiting the new 107 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,919 facility uh as part of the 108 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:18,319 facility as well you'll have an executive session 109 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:22,400 uh breakout room where you will have integrated audio 110 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:25,280 ultra high definition displays 111 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,199 cameras microphones all to be able to use the 112 00:08:27,599 --> 00:08:34,640 latest and greatest uh digital conferencing technologies by zoom 113 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:39,200 teams or any other sort of agnostic conferencing capabilities 114 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,800 systems are pretty much set it and leave it 115 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:45,600 we did our best to make sure that any of the smaller conference room or the 116 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:50,720 breakout session technologies that the use case of the 117 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:56,240 technology was consistent throughout most of the facility so 118 00:08:53,120 --> 00:09:00,000 um you'll also have the ability to uh just do basic presentations come in and 119 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:05,120 bring bring your laptop bring bring your ipad bring your uh android device 120 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,640 connect it right to the uh display be able to you know engage in interactive 121 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,760 and uh interacting with each other through uh 122 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:17,920 sharing content that is also consistent of a variety of conference room spaces 123 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,640 throughout the facility uh there are one two three four five 124 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,760 conference room systems one of which is actually going to be portable within the 125 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:33,440 facility again all very very similar technology 126 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:37,839 very similar use case intuitive control and again incredibly state of the art 127 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:41,519 and uh latest and greatest when you say portable is this the one 128 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:45,200 that's going to have the capability to bring it outside 129 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:48,160 and use it like in the gardens and stuff yes ma'am there is one that is going to 130 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,120 be on a mobile cart 131 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,399 uh it was originally going to be in room 333 i think which got converted to an 132 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:57,760 office and we have since turned that system 133 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,680 that was once integrated now into a portable roll-around system and the 134 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:07,680 information displays are those going to be like televisions that have a rolling 135 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:12,560 scroll on them similar to advertisement but our our information it 136 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:18,240 will have the capability of doing so yes so we are providing the displays 137 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,839 all of the back end infrastructure so your network infrastructure which is 138 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:26,000 actually already in place your power and a video connection and then there 139 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:29,519 will be a source device probably a pc provided by it 140 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:34,079 that is going to be able to provide whatever content you guys would like a 141 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:38,560 closed circuit tv yes okay we have those where i work yes ma'am yes okay thank 142 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,560 you absolutely is there a distance it has to beat before or otherwise it goes 143 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,200 too far you lose it i'm sorry say that again sir you have to be a certain 144 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:50,320 distance from the base in order to take it out there the portable one uh no as 145 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:55,279 long as it has a local uh connection to the uh network and a power jack you're 146 00:10:51,839 --> 00:11:00,079 pretty much okay good to go okay so um yeah again the goal to make this 147 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:05,120 technology not overly complicated but something that is certainly going to 148 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:09,519 stand the test of time for you guys um so that was the the overall goal 149 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:13,360 um again that technology is going to be consistent with room 139 which is your 150 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,200 uh breakout room and a variety of conference room spaces i do wish to 151 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:22,240 outline though too that the executive session uh room specifically 152 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,959 does have a recording element obviously we understand that there's to 153 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,360 be uh the the ability to record audio 154 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:32,480 so there will be an audio appliance to record that 155 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:36,880 as well i'm saving the big guy for last so 156 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:42,079 please bear with me there is a 157 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:46,560 community room which is going to be off of your brand new council chambers 158 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:51,440 the community room will again have very very similar conferencing technologies 159 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:57,360 as the other conference rooms but also serve as a overflow room during the 160 00:11:54,079 --> 00:12:00,720 council chamber meetings so any content that is being displayed 161 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:06,720 on the displays within the council room chambers and any audio contained they're 162 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:10,320 in will be able to overflow into that executive room so that community 163 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,839 room will have will be its own standalone space 164 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:17,920 and augment the city council chambers 165 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:24,560 um i also wanted to point out too that there was one information display area 166 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:29,120 um it's kind of uh inter intermix of uh integration here there is one foyer area 167 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:33,360 i think it's 200 and for maybe we call it information 168 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:38,639 display 200 but that area is also going to be an overflow from the council 169 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,839 chambers there will be two speakers and a display 170 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,800 that will be able to serve anything that's going on out you know during 171 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:48,079 these meetings out into that area as well so there's 172 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,040 another sizable piece of integration that's going to be coming in with that 173 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,160 particular informational display just to make you 174 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:59,160 guys aware so um any questions so far again i want 175 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,320 to try to keep it high level very basic [Applause] 176 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,519 and then i'll move on to the to the big guy for you 177 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,959 okay moving into the council chambers which is what we are sitting in right 178 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,480 now obviously you're going to be in a brand new facility a room that's going 179 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:19,760 to be about five six times the size of what this is 180 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,360 uh right now and you're going to see a lot of differences 181 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:27,839 obviously in front of you you see wired microphones 182 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:33,279 in our instance we have proposed a fully digital 183 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:37,120 wireless solution instead so instead of having these gooseneck microphones in 184 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,880 front of you a very very small boundary microphone each with their own unique 185 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:45,279 uh mute button so again serving the exact 186 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:49,040 same function for voice uplift within the space 187 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:53,040 um and it for any sort of far end audio when it's being broadcasted out those 188 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,399 microphones are going to be served uh a great purpose 189 00:13:54,639 --> 00:14:00,639 um drilling down on that element specifically we chose to go uh 190 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,240 wireless in this particular instance because the infrastructure that was 191 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:08,800 needed to wire up individual microphones throughout the 192 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:12,959 uh throughout the new facility would require some pretty extensive 193 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:15,279 gutting of some work that's already been done there's a lot of conduit that was 194 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:19,839 needed so we ended up going uh wireless in this 195 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:22,880 particular instance the good news for you guys it's 196 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,399 probably still a pretty substantial cost savings 197 00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:31,760 by going wireless in that we're pulling significantly less cable 198 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,800 the infrastructure is much less uh in depth 199 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,160 uh the use case of the microphones obviously you know 200 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,199 very similar still so uh 201 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:46,160 yeah we went with the uh the wireless solution instead of the hardwired 202 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:49,760 goosenecks in this particular instance throughout the facility if you can kind 203 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,480 of imagine this space in a much grander scale 204 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,600 there's going to be four 205 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:01,760 displays size to 85 inches on either sides of the 206 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,120 either side of the room that are going to be able to pull out 207 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,440 and pull and swill and swivel and pivot 208 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,600 to be able to accommodate both who are sitting that are sitting out here 209 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:17,920 both sitting at the dice on both both sides of the room 210 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,760 we've got a uh considerable number of uh speakers within the space too there's 211 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,880 going to be plenty of audio covering the 212 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,959 public as well as those speaking here uh we 213 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,839 didn't want to put any speakers over you guys specifically because we didn't 214 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,600 want to introduce any sort of feedback loop 215 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:40,240 within the space itself um you know that that that being said 216 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,680 yes i know this room was originally designed to where 217 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:49,279 you know if somebody down there was talking this speaker would be on and and 218 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,680 vice versa sure is is that something that 219 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,800 can be considered because it's a huge space we might not be able to 220 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:57,920 necessarily hear what's what's going on yeah so what's 221 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:01,839 going to end up happening obviously we're going to be fine-tuning this this 222 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,839 system um to kind of put it into perspective in your new 223 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:10,160 council chambers i mean you've got one two three four five maybe five six 224 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,920 speakers in this space you're gonna have 16 225 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:18,079 in your new uh facility and it's broken out into two zones one 226 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,759 on the left one on the right evenly distributed throughout 227 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,600 and the gain and our volume structure that is going to be programmed for this 228 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,800 system is going to be more than ample for anybody at the dyas to be able to 229 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,279 hear anybody who is speaking from one side of 230 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:37,279 the room to the other if that answers your question sir yeah that's 231 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:42,240 i appreciate that yeah as far as the wireless microphones 232 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:46,800 what what are we talking battery life for those very good question 12 hours on 233 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,360 a single battery uh we've also provisioned the necessary 234 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:53,920 charging elements for these microphones so when they're done with the 235 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,600 microphones they get placed into a 236 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,440 charging station and we have backup batteries for you 237 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:06,160 that are going to be fully charged so 12 hours what do these microphones actually 238 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:09,600 look like and they sit on the on the dais here they will sit on the 239 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,959 dies yes sir um if you can kind of imagine a 240 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:16,079 computer mouse if you will 241 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:20,480 a little bit thinner about the same same footprint maybe a little thinner black 242 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,880 the mic elephant i'm sorry the mic elephant element is right in front of 243 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,480 there with a small little mute button right on 244 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:30,160 top of it and it's one of those things where it is 245 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:36,400 this is obviously directed right here yeah those are picking up me mark and 246 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:40,080 joe on my microphone or is it it will it definitely did depending on where it's 247 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:43,360 placed it may have the ability to pick up the person next to you or the person 248 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,400 to the right right or left of you in the perfect position of the game 249 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,000 structuring again the programming is intended for that microphone to be 250 00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:52,400 primarily for the person sitting right in front of it 251 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:56,160 now when i was taking a tour at the new city center you 252 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:01,280 know there's data lines and there's conduit and 253 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:05,760 outlets for every single person you know at the dance sure so there's 254 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:10,640 not enough space to you know have a wired system through there as of right 255 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,640 now no there is not 256 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:16,640 that's what lvs has identified based on how the build-out was 257 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:20,559 okay was achieved and that's all because of the fact that this was not started 258 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:24,640 before the building was finished and you you had the walls and everything up and 259 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,440 you couldn't run the wiring i could speculate that i don't know that for 260 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:32,480 certain man i don't know what the the circumstances were leading up to that 261 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,480 but it's believed so yes 262 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:43,919 here could you give us a little bit of background about 263 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:49,679 lvs absolutely yeah low voltage solutions has is a 264 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:54,640 commercial audio visual low voltage infrastructure contractor 265 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:59,600 we have been in business since uh 1997 founded by gary saint sin 266 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:04,080 and our late founder john fassett 267 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:08,880 uh we've been serving this general area since pretty much 1997 have expanded 268 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:12,880 considerably both in uh the chicago and local 269 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:16,960 chicagoland markets uh we serve strictly commercially we are 270 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:21,600 not a residential contractor by any stretch of the imagination 271 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:26,480 um from an audio visual contracting that's what i speak to i am their def i 272 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:29,520 am the division manager for audio visual we are backed by 273 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,440 some of the highest certified 274 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,280 engineers programmers that the industry has to offer 275 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,559 so all services and all professional services that we'll be providing are 276 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:43,600 there are going to be done by low voltage solutions 277 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:48,799 um so that's pretty much us in a nutshell 278 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:53,440 um we've also i think justin please correct me if i'm wrong we do dabble in 279 00:19:51,039 --> 00:20:00,160 the security side of everything too um and we've also uh i believe had some 280 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:02,080 uh we've done a lot of the work i think at the 281 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:06,880 the the facility thus far too from a low 282 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,840 voltage infrastructure standpoint so the security you mean 283 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,679 do i need to walk off yes come on up just i'm sorry 284 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,880 so i was the project manager on the structure cabling side of things for the 285 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:24,159 city um network cabling uh so when we're talking 286 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:28,159 about conduit sizes and this and that um i was part of the infrastructure and 287 00:20:26,159 --> 00:20:32,880 putting those cables in so right now there's like uh there's an inch and a 288 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:37,120 half conduit leading to the dais and we've got like 289 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,240 we've got 12 category 6 cables running down there so conduit size we're very 290 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,320 choked i know that's been a very big talking 291 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,760 point on the wireless mics but on this point we'll be tearing 292 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,720 cables out to put cables back in and doing twice the amount of work and 293 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:53,120 trying to avoid that with the wireless solution 294 00:20:55,679 --> 00:20:59,440 let me ask you something these microphones are 295 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:03,280 just digital then you can't yet don't have to talk directly to it do you 296 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,080 you could sit just as you are right now and it's going to do the exact job that 297 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,720 is saying something either one of these guys that thing will pick it up unless 298 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:14,640 it's muted yes sir oh yes what about if he has his papers on top 299 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,640 of it 300 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,280 obviously we'd have to move the papers to get it out of the way 301 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,320 so yeah obviously there's got to be a clean 302 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:28,960 a clean shot to the to the microphone in a perfect situation 303 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:32,320 i do know that very similar to what you guys have here there is a ledge too 304 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,200 where the microphones could potentially be placed 305 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,600 if you need the work surface i mean these microphones again they are 306 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:43,039 programmable each microphone will have the ability to be controlled 307 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,960 uniquely muted all microphones could be muted and 308 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:51,520 controlled at the exact same time so that's kind of the beauty of this 309 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:54,960 particular system at the end of the day you know it's just 310 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,039 a different footprint but same functionality is what we were looking to 311 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:03,520 achieve without having to add new infrastructure tear up 312 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:07,520 the ground run conduits beneath the the conduit or i'm sorry between beneath the 313 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:11,280 concrete of the foundation which is i think ultimately what's going to end up 314 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:16,080 having to be done if we chose to go a hardwired solution in this space so 315 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:22,720 and it also means the difference of us pulling about 15 cables versus three 316 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,400 that was another piece of it too so we were if you could kind of imagine 317 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:31,440 i'm sure many of you guys have seen what a wireless access point looks like 318 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,240 the receivers for these microphones look like little wireless access points 319 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:36,799 they'll be out of sight out of mind in your ceiling 320 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:40,559 picking up the frequencies from the microphone so 321 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,400 that everything is working absolutely beautifully so we'll be able to do that 322 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:47,600 very very easily from above your ceiling down to the 323 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:53,600 av heading closet that you guys would have here in this facility so 324 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,640 and what is the assisted listening capabilities 325 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:02,559 okay so this yeah assisted listening high level um is intended to serve those 326 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:06,480 who are hearing impaired uh is what that is 327 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:12,559 so we propose that as a ad option um 328 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:18,480 for ultimately the the city to be able to make the decision 329 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:23,120 lvs's stance on it is that it's a it's proper building code to be able to 330 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,200 accommodate a small prayer i think it's two percent of the occupancy of the 331 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:32,240 uh space to give them a earpiece 332 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:36,880 to be able to hear very very closely with the audio that is being spoken 333 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:41,360 during these meetings again catering to those who are hearing impaired 334 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,960 and in the particular use case instance someone who is hearing and there would 335 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,320 be signage posted within the room itself that this says the system will have this 336 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,000 capability and if they need that 337 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,840 assist they would need to request for that 338 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,559 little earpiece to wear and then they would have a 339 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:01,360 little little side piece a little receiver on the side that they would be 340 00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:04,799 able to raise and lower a volume on to be able to hear the audio better 341 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:10,080 that's what als is so that's obviously something that's 342 00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:13,279 interchangeable to the user some type of i mean 343 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,880 going into somebody's ear it's one of those things that can be 344 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,480 yes clean properly yes absolutely and there's also a lanyard piece of it too 345 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:24,240 that kind of wraps around the neck too so 346 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240 yes sir 347 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,440 so um 348 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:34,960 drilling down even further obviously there is a integration to the 349 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:38,320 recording and broadcasting capabilities out to uh 350 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,640 the local youtube channel here within we've been coordinating with the 351 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:46,320 gentleman who's currently running your meeting behind the scenes here right now 352 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:51,520 um so there'll be a nice element to that um there's a bunch of uh what i call 353 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:54,880 brain equipment behind the scenes that are going to be uh 354 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,320 uh sending all these various signals in and 355 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:03,039 out to all these various devices i don't want to bore you with all of that but 356 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,679 know that all that and from all that equipment is right there and ready to 357 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,320 receive uh one of the other things that you're 358 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:13,679 going to have the capabilities of what you don't currently have here today 359 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:17,760 is the ability to plug in at a variety of different locations a 360 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:22,080 laptop or a 361 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,760 source device into various locations throughout the facility so we're gonna 362 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:31,279 have four locations for a hardwired hdmi connection to be able to display content 363 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:35,200 up onto the uh monitors within the space and be heard through the speakers 364 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:39,840 if so chosen to do so the locations include two podium 365 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,039 locations within the uh new council chambers that will be one at 366 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:47,120 the dyas and there will also be one near a 367 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,480 technician's uh area off on the side 368 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:54,159 you will also have the ability to do the exact same thing wirelessly by plugging 369 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,000 in a small little dongle usb dongle into your device and 370 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:02,080 hitting a button and being able to blast content up wirelessly as well and you'll 371 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,880 have that capability those that are going to be running the 372 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,679 system while these beatings are occurring 373 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:12,640 there will be a portable ipad that's going to be programmed again custom 374 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:18,159 programmed for this specific space to be able to 375 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:23,039 manipulate maneuver all microphones be able to switch 376 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:26,640 input sources raise them lower volume and uh record 377 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:29,760 we as we have a recording device too that's going to be uh provision for you 378 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,159 guys um we'll be able to route 379 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:38,480 that information as i mentioned earlier into that 139 i'm sorry to that 380 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:41,919 community room as an overflow we'll also be able to route that information out to 381 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,679 that foyer area which is also serving as an overflow so basically what that is is 382 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,960 that's your big portable universal control remote 383 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,440 control and then from the head and rack there's 384 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,480 also going to be a uh a nuclear panel to you know if if one were to fail or 385 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,840 whatever the case may be you'll have a backup panel in your head and rack 386 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,799 as well typically 387 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,080 yes um 388 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,600 is there a reason why you're not using the switcher and the receiver from here 389 00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:14,080 that we have uh no longer supported it's it's 390 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,400 actually outdated not true because when we 391 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,679 got these equipment 392 00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:24,559 it was supposed to be we knew we were going to move to new city hall okay and 393 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:30,320 we were told that this particular equipment plus the cameras that we have 394 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:35,840 they they were supposed to be comparable with whatever we go whatever we do okay 395 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:40,320 so about two three weeks ago i was here took an inventory of that equipment i 396 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,720 know that the cameras are panasonic they are no longer supported by 397 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:48,399 panasonic that was confirmed i know that a lot of the head-end equipment that's 398 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,240 going to be in here right now is tied to the broadcast system specifically and is 399 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,360 intended to be retrofitted as part of this system 400 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:59,600 separately my understanding you don't have enough experience in broadcasting 401 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:04,159 and that's the reason why we're not moving the stuff 402 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:09,200 i'm sorry say that again ma'am my my knowledge is i was doing some 403 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:13,600 homework and your company is not really experienced with broadcasting 404 00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:16,880 so that's one of the reasons it's not necessarily ma'am that we don't have 405 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,000 experience in broadcasting it's that our understanding is that that was handled 406 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:23,440 by a separate contractor so what we've did is we've we've we've 407 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:30,520 included the necessary inputs and outputs for that system to be able to 408 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,520 very seamlessly integrate into ours 409 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:38,960 it's not comparable like so other companies will be able to 410 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,679 use this equipment that we have here i don't know nothing is against you i'm 411 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:46,240 just that's what we were told when we spent 412 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,919 all that money if any of you remember here 413 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:54,159 that whatever equipment we put here last three years ago or four years ago it was 414 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,000 supposed to be comparable because we knew we're going to build a new city 415 00:28:55,679 --> 00:29:02,240 hall of the equipment in the head-end is is 416 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:06,640 retrofitting over into it and i believe it's either being 417 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,919 handled by comcast or att i believe well right so yeah when you say broadcast you 418 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:15,840 mean when we're broadcasting out to them yeah to the public access channel and 419 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:20,080 also streaming on the internet yes right so some of that equipment we're still 420 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,919 going to be able to use yes take it from the room here and put it in the ev room 421 00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:28,880 at the new city center and it's going to retrofit then and tie into our system to 422 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:32,559 make a seamless endeavor when everything's all said and 423 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:35,840 done man yes but not the cameras not the cameras no 424 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,120 so with the cameras would you be able to use those cameras 425 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,760 on your system it's just that they're not supported anymore so correct yeah we 426 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:47,120 could certainly use the cameras yes um that was actually i think mentioned 427 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,279 before that yeah we could definitely use these cameras we would be introducing 428 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,520 a lot of different boxes to be able to adapt them to our devices so there'd be 429 00:29:53,440 --> 00:30:00,000 more electronics that i would need to introduce in order to make them 430 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,559 connect properly to our devices and in our mind more devices means more 431 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:10,159 failure points more risk of failure so we took it upon ourselves uh based on 432 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:16,399 discussions that we had with the team to retrofit brand new state-of-the-art 433 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:19,279 cameras that would retrofit into our system and also interface seamlessly 434 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,799 than with with the 435 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:26,320 broadcast system head-on devices that are being transferred over 436 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:30,399 i think the confusion quality if i'm understanding this correctly 437 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:35,440 when we were told that that these items would work going forward it would was 438 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:40,000 for the comcast side of things and since nobody um 439 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,840 obviously looked into this until lately as far as all these other elements are 440 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,760 this this never entered the picture because they didn't even decide this 441 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,760 until just lately and which is why we have to go wireless 442 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:56,000 so it's caused a whole series of problems because 443 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,840 you know we relate to the party is the best way to put it so even though 444 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,480 that might work with comcast it's not going to work well with yours you're 445 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:06,240 going to have to add equipment which is just like getting extension plugs 446 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:09,519 there's always yep yeah and i understand that unfortunately i 447 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:12,080 think we were just once again 448 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:19,760 given some not so great advice before so i i can kind of elaborate on some of 449 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:24,080 this um as far as how we got here right to this 450 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,279 point and and to your point claudia um 451 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,960 so when it was found out that 452 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:35,360 probably back in november when i was still working in gym's spot 453 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:40,159 it was found out probably back in november october maybe at the latest 454 00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:42,399 that somebody came in for a speaker bid right they was they're looking for 455 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,600 speakers and okay great so what are the speakers 456 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:49,360 going to do and the thought process was to take this 457 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,600 stuff in there in the cameras these microphones the 458 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,480 entire system here with these new speakers and integrated 459 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:02,080 into the new console chambers so 460 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:05,440 i looked into it and and said hey i don't know if that's gonna work or not 461 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,720 we had a meeting with um ron 462 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:12,799 uh ron had said you know wait a minute here we're not sure if this is gonna 463 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:16,399 work it may not be compatible the equipment with the new fiber lines 464 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:19,440 that are out there so there's a lot of things that this gentleman's tank is 465 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,679 absolutely correct that was discussed at these meetings 466 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,240 so when we hired harbor contractors i gave 467 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,360 this project to harbor and said hey you guys 468 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,519 um are in charge of this and you try to find out what is the best here's 469 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:37,919 division where are we at they came back with report and said 470 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:43,279 you're not there you are these microphones that system and some 471 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:47,519 speakers that are being uh bit out so i said stop all that don't do any of that 472 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,519 let's go out and get some price quotes and kind of do a design 473 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:55,200 and so they met with three or four different gentlemen uh different 474 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,840 companies they just got doing the county of will 475 00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:03,200 a 400 000 project um they met with that particular vendor they met with these 476 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,640 guys they met with the initial vendor that was 477 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:09,360 talked to a year and a half ago and they kind of took all the 478 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,960 information they met with the resident who's here today was very helpful in 479 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:17,600 giving us some ideas on how to proceed 480 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,880 and all of that is a is accumulation of what these guys are presenting 481 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:26,960 is so so harbor vetted them vetted the scope 482 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:31,600 vetted the equipment and said hey it's probably most cost 483 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:35,519 effective not to use these cameras to retrofit some of the work or some of 484 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,440 the things that are in there but we need new stuff 485 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:43,360 if we want to have 21st century technology to make sure that it could be 486 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,600 streamed we have the recording systems 487 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:52,080 my vision to them was you push a button and everything's done 488 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:56,159 rather than having 12 different things going on at once and that was kind of 489 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,240 because i'm not an i.t person so that was given all to jim jim took that and 490 00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:04,559 ran with it and that's how we got to where we're at 491 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:08,560 um so the scope of the project was vetted by three or four different 492 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:13,119 companies not just this company by three or four different companies and to my 493 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,800 knowledge they all came back and said it is difficult 494 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,359 to use these cameras not impossible it is difficult using all of those all of 495 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:25,520 those pieces back there because of fiber versus cable versus coax 496 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:30,480 all the things that are out there and it's best to go this direction 497 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:34,480 and then jim took it over from there and then these gentlemen 498 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:38,480 were one of the where the lowest and the best 499 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,000 bid i guess from from a um 500 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:44,720 [Music] overall scope so if that helps at all it 501 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:48,399 does but i like the way you said it because it's just the lowest 502 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,760 i have nothing against i'm not saying anything 503 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,560 lois is not always not always the best you're able to correct correct sometimes 504 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,839 you spend you know you want to save a quarter and 505 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:02,160 you end up paying the dollar for it again i'm not into technology i'm not 506 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:06,480 aware i'm just i just wanna make sure that 507 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,680 we're gonna be doing the right thing because 508 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,800 we keep making the mistakes over and over and over tonight 509 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:18,800 if you go back and you pull minutes and it sounded like a broken record asking 510 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,880 questions about where we at where what's going on 511 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:23,599 and and i'm not going to keep going 512 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,720 backwards i understand we have to move forward we have to pick up the pieces 513 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:29,119 but it's really frustrating at this point 514 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:34,240 like i called jim today i said i'm nervous 515 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:39,200 about making this decision because i am you know i i'm not educated very well 516 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:44,720 when it comes to technology i try to do as much possible homework 517 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:49,119 um i ask a lot of questions but we were told let's go on this 518 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:53,599 because this equipment is going to work but now it's not going to work and how 519 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,280 do i know down the road the stuff that you're offering us 520 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:00,800 you're going to say oh you know what we made another mistake now we have to add 521 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,880 more more options you know what i'm going to 522 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,000 you you have incredibly valid points you have incredibly valid points and having 523 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,560 been in the technology industry the greater 524 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:16,640 part of almost 23 years i could tell you that one of the most challenging things 525 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,960 we have as technology providers is that technology always changes 526 00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:24,960 everything is changing different connectors different technology more 527 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:29,280 high definition more bandwidth more this more that more this more that 528 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:33,520 which makes equipment that you buy five six seven years ago 529 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:38,400 tougher to retrofit down the line you know so to answer your question i 530 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:42,160 respect your concern i truly do and my candid answer to that is that i 531 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:45,839 don't have a guaranteed answer for you on that because we don't know what 532 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,079 technology is going to do six seven eight years from now what we 533 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:55,119 know we're doing is that we're doing everything we can to future proof your 534 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:59,520 infrastructure you know to provide you a reliable sturdy 535 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,880 dependable intuitive solution um that i could look at you straight in 536 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,720 the eye and say that that's certainly our intent 537 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,960 the technology that we are providing one thing i could tell you too is that 538 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:14,240 there are 100 ways to skin the cat in our industry we there's countless 539 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,880 numbers of manufacturers that are out there 540 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,000 and one of the bigger challenges we have currently right now is that you know yes 541 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,599 there are other contractors out there that do the exact same thing that we're 542 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:27,200 doing right now but because of chip shortages and everything else that's 543 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:33,680 going on we're six months away from being able to get out of here 544 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,400 we're choosing certain equipment because of shortage because they're behind and 545 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:41,200 we feel i feel like we are rushing we will 546 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:46,400 have to do city hall i just hope we're picking up the right equipment for this 547 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:51,200 is is there is there a particular vendor that you're concerned about last week if 548 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,160 i'm not mistaken he did stand there and said 549 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,720 uh some of the option was selected because of shortage and this is what we 550 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:02,800 can put our hands on and i just want to make sure we're not rushing on making oh 551 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,160 let's just pick this one because this is available right now and down the road is 552 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,040 not going to work when i sit down road maybe year two three i know seven eight 553 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,880 years technology changes i can buy a phone today and next week apple is gonna 554 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:20,880 bring another new video you got it you know i'm aware of that but we're talking 555 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,400 30 million dollars here we're not talking no we understand couple thousand 556 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:30,240 dollars a lot of money you understand 557 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:34,000 and i'm just i am nervous about it it is again we completely understand um i mean 558 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:38,880 i know that there's probably names that are being thrown out in names like 559 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:42,720 crestron extron there's other again there's a dozen ways there's not a 560 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,920 subject i don't want to touch only but i don't want to take away no no no no no 561 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:52,880 it's again it is not even comparable to what other companies they 562 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:56,000 offer it is 100 comparable compared to other 563 00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:00,560 manufacturers that are out there man absolutely um 564 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:05,599 no no no that's that's absolutely fine so i mean i know that everything again 565 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:10,720 kind of bringing this full circle um again there is many ways that we could 566 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,839 do this um and i know one of the things that we were trying to do 567 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,640 and that we were trying to back into was to be able to hit a timeline 568 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,160 that so a lot of the technology that was 569 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:26,400 chosen while 100 viable and reputable and backed by big companies you know the 570 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:29,920 head end of your equipment is owned by a company called harman kardon which is 571 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:34,400 actually a samsung company so um 572 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:38,640 you know that might that may not have been our first choice but we 573 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,359 again we we weren't just looking at just the solution we were looking at the 574 00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:45,040 timeline that we were trying to achieve it in and one of the objectives that we 575 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,720 were able to achieve is that conservatively speaking 576 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,800 70 of the gear that we have on our proposal we're going 577 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,520 to be able to fulfill much sooner compared to other manufacturers that are 578 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,200 giving four to six months lead times right now 579 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,280 and even that's a dart being thrown blindfolded right 580 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:06,560 now when it comes to anything that's happening on the west 581 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:09,839 coast with you know with with things coming in on 582 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:13,359 big cargo ships and on you know out in california right now so 583 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:18,000 again the technology was certainly backed and and is certainly reputable 584 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:23,280 we're not schlepping any sort of off-name brands into this solution by 585 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:27,359 any stretch of the imagination yes ma'am now can i ask you a quick 586 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:32,400 question before you move on sure have you done bigger project than city 587 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:38,319 hall yes you've done absolutely absolutely i mean myself personally 588 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:43,280 um i've managed the city of former glenn i have managed the village of carol 589 00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:47,760 streams city halls as well so that's where a lot of my 590 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:51,200 and a lot of lvs's design experience kind of stemmed from 591 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,040 were those systems that i was involved with over the past conservatively 592 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,319 speaking three four years so 593 00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:01,119 i oversaw and manage the technology integration specifically the audio 594 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:05,839 visual in those two specific 595 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:09,760 locations i could probably name a few others that i've done through donors 596 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,599 grove earlier in my career but certainly this is not my first 597 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:17,280 personally not my first project through any sort of village hall 598 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:21,040 or city hall renovation for technology yes ma'am 599 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,040 let me ask you a question these cameras are going to be the new new uh console 600 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,720 are they going to be fixed or they're going to could they roam 601 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,880 great question they will be ceiling mounted three in the back kind of 602 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:38,480 similar here one in the front full pan tilt zoom capability with 30 time 603 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,680 optical zoom into the into certain angles plus there's going 604 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,040 to be on the side a separate 605 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:49,040 intuitive joystick controller preview monitoring to be able to set up 606 00:41:46,839 --> 00:41:52,240 presets for it as well when i asked you that question before 607 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:57,359 about the speakers i didn't mean digital i meant directional you know what i'm 608 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,359 going to say got to do the two d's 609 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,280 i know the digital but i meant directional you got to talk to it yeah 610 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,200 no no yeah yeah i mean i want that's why i wanted to get out if if you can 611 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:10,480 imagine you know my piece of paper or maybe my little calculator here is the 612 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,240 microphone you don't have to go right up to it and talk to it like this you are 613 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:18,400 able to sit as comfortable as you are in that chair right now and have it cervix 614 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,319 it's it's it's exact same purpose and intended functionality that's what i 615 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,480 meant before i got yes all good 616 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:27,520 not a problem so you may not be able to answer this 617 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:33,280 question but maybe you can maybe somebody can the um tablet that you 618 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,720 spoke of that can control all the mics all of this all of that 619 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:42,000 who's going to be operating that 620 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:45,680 so we will be programming it we will be commissioning it testing it and i mean 621 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:48,720 at each meeting at each meeting i believe it's going to be iran ron and 622 00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:52,720 leo so he's going to be doing that along with all the cameras and all the other 623 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,400 stuff here right he'll be doing the same thing that he's doing now just with 624 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,200 new equipment and how many cameras are gonna be in 625 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,960 that room four total just like we have here 626 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:07,520 so ron will be operating four cameras pan and tilt 627 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:12,079 he can preset the cameras you know with a certain uh shot so to speak and press 628 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:16,240 a button it'll automatically move you know to to that position i do know so 629 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,920 it'll be more automated i think than what we have now the goal was to make 630 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:23,599 his life easier i think it was ultimately what it was 631 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:28,880 but it gives you the flexibility of moving the cameras which these don't do 632 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:33,440 correct and when we met last week what was it on thursday 633 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:38,720 tim stinnett ron romero kirk and brian and myself met with 634 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,000 eric and we went over the proposal we met at the city center 635 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,079 and we walked through some of the conference rooms and we walked through 636 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:50,480 the council chambers and looked at everything and talked through it and 637 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,119 both tim and ron were satisfied with what we're going to do some suggestions 638 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:57,520 were made that you know we made some tweaks the 639 00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,560 original proposal had three cameras in the council chain three cameras yeah it 640 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,000 was around suggestion that we had a fourth yep 641 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,440 uh so that's what we're doing so we did make a couple tweaks that's 642 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:12,640 why the propulsion you have in front of you today 643 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:12,640 was updated from our meeting on thursday 644 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:18,640 eric how about like long-term long-term support i mean i know you're close but 645 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,800 can we knock in your door every day if we have a have have issues please do 646 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:27,440 please do please do come on down no no um 647 00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:31,280 no no yeah 648 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:34,880 um obviously they're come 649 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:38,079 if anything breaks and again it's electronics 650 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,359 do things that people otherwise can't predict not even 651 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:46,560 i can predict um there is a dedicated help desk 652 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:51,839 support email that the people in charge will be able to 653 00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:56,800 ring and get us instantly with a solid response um you know certainly 654 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:01,520 come day one two we intend to fully support the first 655 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:05,359 full few meetings on site to make sure that the confidence level is there that 656 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:10,800 the technology is working as it should um one thing that's always 657 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:14,160 considerably tough when it comes to technology integration is the the last 658 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,319 twenty percent of the job is typically what takes about eighty percent of the 659 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,720 time um there's going to be some fine-tuning 660 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:24,640 there is going to be some uh uh that didn't work right or that wasn't 661 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,640 quite what we wanted to do that didn't sound right that sort of thing like that 662 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,720 we're here for the long haul please understand that this is not a wham-bam 663 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,319 we're done we're out and you'll never see us again 664 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:40,480 this is a long-term partnership that we have viewed it as 665 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,760 last thursday as jim mentioned that was i think our fourth or fifth meeting that 666 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:49,359 we've had drilling down into what this solution is 667 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,960 intended to be i think we refined it i think a you know 668 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:57,680 total of three or four times now since you know in an effort to try to really 669 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:02,640 hit the nail squarely but we also made it very crystal clear 670 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:07,200 to those that we were working with that we're not here to 671 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:10,480 nickel and dime we're not here to uh beat you guys up for every little 672 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,000 change that comes down the the rope here we're treating this as a partnership we 673 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:17,760 want to make sure that we're this is right for you guys not just in the 674 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:21,359 immediate but in the long term and when stuff breaks we'll be here 675 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:23,760 so you want to record it just so you know 676 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,319 so we'll be playing that over and over stamp it yeah 677 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,680 well we're gonna have we're gonna have two in-house people to help support the 678 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,079 system as well with ron and tim now of course 679 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:37,520 you know they're not going to be able to do say 680 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,079 the hard wiring and that type of thing but they're going to get trained on the 681 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,160 system they're going to know how to operate it you know and software updates 682 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:47,599 and you know configure things we'll be able to do 683 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:51,280 that and then we have lvs just down the road whenever we need them and then 684 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:54,880 outlined i think for next fixed fiscal year too we did 685 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,640 as part of this proposal provide proposals and outlines for 686 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,359 ongoing maintenance for not just the next year but the next two three four 687 00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:07,119 years as well um you know obviously with 688 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,839 any sizeable investment such as this you know this is like buying a very 689 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,680 expensive car in some cases maybe three or four very 690 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:18,240 expensive cars and like anything else you know cars 691 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:22,079 need maintenance right you gotta be able to kind of make sure run the system 692 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:26,400 through the paces put some oil in it update some firmwares 693 00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:30,480 update some softwares so we have provided uh 694 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,680 separate of this proposal but we have it does include the pricing though of a uh 695 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:39,520 first second and third year maintenance package to make sure that we're 696 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:43,280 keeping that system up and running at top level for you guys making sure you 697 00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:48,720 guys have the the latest and greatest uh feature sets of this system as well 698 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:52,079 so can i ask why that would be a first second 699 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:55,760 maintenance versus second assuming you're going to be there to do 700 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:59,920 required maintenance maintenance during that first year that's actually a great 701 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:04,960 question so our stand the lvs is and this is actually pretty common in 702 00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:07,520 the av industry as a whole i could very easily put a couple of 703 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:11,359 maintenance visits as part of the base package most 704 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,200 av integrators um a lot of people don't choose not to 705 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:18,800 do it so we break it out optionally what you will have from us 706 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,960 included in your package in your first year is support for all the workmanship 707 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:26,000 it doesn't necessarily include all maintenance 708 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,280 so um but if something does break we're gonna be here for you for a period of 709 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:33,520 one year after we get successful sign off so 710 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,760 so could this be restructured where we're for conscious consideration we'll 711 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,760 be looking at an enhanced maintenance program in which your first year is 712 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:46,720 included absolutely uh have us consider years two three and 713 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:50,559 four yes sir absolutely i'm sorry are you suggesting the first 714 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:55,200 year be added to the base price what i'm saying not added to the base 715 00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:55,200 but included in there 716 00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:02,000 so the base price would remain at correct but the first year really 717 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,119 assuming there'd be very little maintenance and that you guys are going 718 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:09,599 to be in and out of there that that you submit a proposal for years two three 719 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:14,720 and four and you include year one we could we will look into that and 720 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:18,319 certainly get back to jim on that yes my expectation would be included in that 721 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,200 in that base system that's all i got 722 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:25,200 okay it's like when you buy a washer and dryer you got a 12 year warranty on it 723 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,720 you buy an extended one it picks up in year two 724 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,760 yeah you buy a plant they guarantee for the first year and you pay for the 725 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:36,640 insurance when you buy a car and they give you free oil change for a couple 726 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:39,839 years yeah you know so yep some cars do some cars don't looking for free oil 727 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,480 change i guess what we're saying understood loud and clear sir very good 728 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,200 point one eric everything i've heard here sounds 729 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:53,359 great uh how long will it take you to 730 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,960 install this and make it functional in that building after it gets approved 731 00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,079 here that is a very good question 732 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,440 um realistically speaking 733 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:09,359 i am three to four weeks to procure my equipment and getting it in here 734 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:14,000 we're going to be on site as soon as we possibly can roughing in 735 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:18,960 um our objective here is with uh i think the target was to try to hit 736 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:22,000 um mid april was what was is the objective that we were trying to hit 737 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:28,319 um i can't guarantee that just yet um 738 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:31,359 but again the goal is as soon as humanly possible 739 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:35,280 i know that from a labor hours perspective and a breakdown of what 740 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:40,000 needs to be done i think the overall project cycle was about five to six 741 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:43,839 weeks start to finish if we were to just go full bore at it 742 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,640 so awesome thanks 743 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,839 so that pretty much concludes anything unless there's any other questions that 744 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:58,319 i could help answer for you guys 745 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,319 any other questions 746 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,240 we're here because we know that the money that you're that's being placed in 747 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,520 front of you you got to have the confidence and we wanted to make sure 748 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:08,079 you guys do you know conversations don't need to end 749 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:12,319 here tonight if there's any other questions that pop up we're here so go 750 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:17,280 on okay thanks erica presentation thank you 751 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,280 for that 752 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,800 they have to increase the price 753 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,319 anything else jim no 754 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:39,200 regards to this all right i would be looking for a 755 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:43,920 motion a resolution awarding the city center audio video visual contract low 756 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:49,720 voltage solutions incorporated as presented 757 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,720 so moved 758 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,440 was there a second 759 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,640 i guess my question is the point glenn brought up 760 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,640 how are we able to vote on that without response 761 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:13,040 well that's a good question i mean 762 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:16,640 we've got the proposal in front of us so i don't know that we're in a position to 763 00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:20,319 negotiate a change to the poor well then we're probably not in position i'm 764 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,040 talking right now thank you 765 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:30,200 you'll want good first year's maintenance 766 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,200 see how easy thank you eric yes 767 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,760 lvs will include maintenance in the first year okay 768 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:47,040 when can they exercise that option if that's not on the table yet for the 769 00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:51,359 fourth year uh whenever they so choose to i mean that can be 770 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:55,200 any time later yeah yeah 771 00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:00,559 subsequent or subsequent years yes different years different fiscals right 772 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:04,559 so we're amending that to say you're two then you're three prior to 773 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,800 the ending of year two and you're four prior to the ending you're changing 774 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:12,160 those numbers on the graph my assumption would be is that we'd be 775 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:15,920 including the first year maintenance right within that original contract 776 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,760 price those years two three and four you you 777 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,599 don't have to vote on this evening but that could be included in in upcoming 778 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,200 budgets so it would be voting on the initial contract 779 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,319 with hopefully the addendum to add that 780 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,000 first year maintenance so in essence what they'd be doing is 781 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,599 striking a line through year one and including it in the base in the base 782 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,599 number that jim outlined this evening yes sir 783 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:45,920 to alderman kubal is uh that acceptable to your motion for that 784 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,920 amendment 785 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:54,559 i'm sorry is the amendment as presented with 786 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:59,200 striking the the first year the first year being included in the contract was 787 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:04,400 that acceptable to your motion i'll still make that motion okay 788 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,400 is there a second 789 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:12,000 all second all right we have motion by alderman 790 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:16,400 kubal secondhead by alder person overland 791 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:22,319 questions or comments i i just i'm going to say that 792 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:26,000 you know repeatedly this project is getting to be so disappointing 793 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,200 with how some of these things are ending up 794 00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:34,640 and i feel like now we may be settling for 795 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:39,200 not the greatest technology just because we want to get it done 796 00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:45,280 and that worries me the wireless microphones worry me 797 00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:49,200 um changing batteries you know during a meeting or whatever you can hear 798 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,760 somebody because of it and i know it's 799 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:55,520 we're at the point where there's not much we can do about it 800 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:59,200 but um 801 00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:03,760 i i just feel like we still don't have some of the straight 802 00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:07,920 answers we're looking for um regarding what we're you know what 803 00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:12,000 we're doing is best this is a big contract 804 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,880 you know we we have repairs to do all throughout the city and when we're 805 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,480 talking three hundred thousand dollars it's just 806 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,839 hard to hard to swallow um 807 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,880 not really getting too much input besides what we've been presented with 808 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,880 tonight there's been really no other professional input on this 809 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,599 i know tim just started and ron we have his input but i haven't heard from ron 810 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:36,319 either um so i just i'm hesitant on on voting 811 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:41,040 on this tonight nate i was concerned about the microphone just like you i 812 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:46,640 talked to um brown and ofran can't come out and and speak into this regard the 813 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:51,359 batteries and he said it's part of his his job to change and make sure the 814 00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:56,640 batteries are in place i don't care 815 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:59,359 can he come up yeah he can come out let me look him up 816 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,040 there he is ladies and gentlemen everything you 817 00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:08,480 said well because we're wired yeah 818 00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:14,400 so um my concern is this from the get-go we 819 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,079 were asked when heather was here can we move the gear over there we had an eye 820 00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:22,319 to the future to say that we want to get the sick the 4k cameras in here 821 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,680 we wanted the latest and greatest in equipment 822 00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:29,040 we had an update just a few years ago through another company that updated a 823 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:32,240 lot of the gear that's in here right now that is movable 824 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:37,440 the issue that we face is when we move to the other location we go from a coax 825 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:41,359 if you remember the old tvs with coax that's what we're using here and that's 826 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:45,040 why it looks so grainy that we have here the line goes from here down to where 827 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,400 toten's is and there's an amplifier just like you 828 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,680 used to have on the back of your tv back in the day 829 00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:56,799 when that goes out we get grainy pictures like this 830 00:56:53,280 --> 00:57:02,000 at the new place we go to um to fiber optics the the gear is still the same 831 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,160 here but the encoders and decoders that's 832 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:11,200 what sends the signal from here to uh comcast that changes because it's 833 00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:14,720 a different technology um i want to be clear on a couple things 834 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,920 because i hear my name kind of coming up once in a while that i've agreed on 835 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,359 certain things i've always raised the concern 836 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:25,599 that um that were there's a difference be what 837 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,359 they've presented is a really good plan for av 838 00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:31,520 but we still have questions on how we connect 839 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,359 um broadcast or narrow cast in this case 840 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:40,400 because we're broadcasting out to uh the community 841 00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:43,920 there's some questions about and let me give you an example the we had a little 842 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:47,359 scope creep because originally we said here's what 843 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,280 we want to do and when this all got put together then 844 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,680 we were introduced with oh we want to put monitors on the wall okay we're 845 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:59,680 gonna connect what to that a computer how do we show that for the people to 846 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:04,079 see here and to do broadcast we're not sure yet 847 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:07,040 what about uh microphones on the table that microphone has to feed the overhead 848 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:12,640 speakers it has to go to a audio recorder and it 849 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,760 has to go to broadcast how do we do that i don't know that we have the answer 850 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:20,559 complete for that yet we mentioned a recorder 851 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:24,160 but we've not talked about our server which is specific to 852 00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:27,040 cable there are 853 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:31,119 a couple of pieces of equipment in there that are specific that's how i program 854 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:35,520 in other words when i'm not here every tuesday you see at twos and eights 855 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:40,960 the city council meeting that's a specific piece of gear that you can't 856 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:44,559 replace with just anything we went to the manufacturer for that 857 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:50,799 they're the ones who recommended the company that did the last upgrade for us 858 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:55,760 and put that information in there uh or put the the gear in there they also did 859 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:59,920 a flow chart to show us how everything in the back of that com in the room has 860 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:04,480 been connected the unfortunate thing is when this started it was not much more 861 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:09,040 than a powerpoint presentation going into an encoder 862 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:12,799 since then there's been updates the cable management is terrible there 863 00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:16,400 because we've just added another piece of equipment we've just done other 864 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:19,520 things the hope was that when we moved to the new place that we start to 865 00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:24,160 streamline to their point a very good point we 866 00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:27,760 don't want to introduce any more failure points we don't want to put adapters 867 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,359 into adapters into splitters into things like that we want to streamline a lot of 868 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,359 that and i was hoping that that's what we were going to do in there 869 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,400 as i mentioned before a lot of the av things are real 870 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,839 um i'm not even concerned so much with the 871 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,520 microphones because i've used those in other environments 872 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:49,760 with other locations 873 00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:53,760 that's not a necessarily a bad thing to use i know there's other cities that 874 00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:57,280 does use the the wireless as well i am concerned though 875 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:02,240 i don't know maybe it's a question you can answer you had they had asked about 876 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:06,720 what other cities you had worked with i would ask how many other 877 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:10,160 applications included narrow caster broadcasting 878 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,760 and what servers did they use for those locations that's my concern 879 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,839 like how how do we connect 880 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,559 av to broadcast is my concern 881 01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:27,440 any questions did you 882 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:30,640 with his question did you incorporate av and broadcast ron i think you have a 883 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:35,200 problem yeah that's the wrong meeting 884 01:00:31,610 --> 01:00:40,079 [Laughter] jim uh it seems like we still have a lot 885 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:44,079 of questions we why we don't table this like we try to 886 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,359 do a work session where we can bring everybody including around like he's 887 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,160 running me and now we move to different meeting um 888 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:58,799 well do you have answers yeah i mean 889 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:03,200 the understanding was on lvs's side is that the 890 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:08,000 broadcast elements would integrate into our system therefore we 891 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:12,319 have provisioned the what we believe is the necessary 892 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:17,040 inputs outputs to be able to retrofit the 893 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:22,000 gear that is being transferred over to that system 894 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:26,480 how and what that scope is is not currently included within our scope 895 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:32,400 um it was our understanding that that was being handled by a uh a separate 896 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,400 contract at that point so 897 01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:39,200 see this is kind of my fear is that we have all this stuff but then it's maybe 898 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:43,119 state-of-the-art here at our dais but then it's not 899 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,960 communicating with every other aspect of what we need to do 900 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:51,119 and i i feel like just getting in the room together 901 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:55,680 ron and tim just to hammer this stuff out so 902 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,200 we're all on the same page even if it means that we 903 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:03,119 ideally probably have to spend more money at least we're doing it right the 904 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:06,640 first time and if we can go out to channel six or youtube you know the very 905 01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:10,480 first meeting that we have at the new city center who who would we need to 906 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:15,039 have in here from comcast i have no idea 907 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,200 we have connections um we've had meetings in fact i've been 908 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:24,960 contacted by comcast several times and forward that information on comcast and 909 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:27,440 we also broadcast on uh 18t those are two different encoders and decoders 910 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,920 right and they both 911 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,319 we've reached out to them they've reached out they've been trying to be 912 01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:35,119 included and it's i don't know that they've been 913 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,079 included i don't know that they've been talked to because 914 01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:42,559 i keep getting calls back from their emails back from them saying what's 915 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:46,480 going on so i i tell you comcast when we met comcast when you and i met 916 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,599 with you know so comcast has been uh contact us was back in november at 917 01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:53,520 clark uh was in charge of that after we had 918 01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:56,480 the change over at the building so comcast has been contacted they have 919 01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,240 been part of the entire uh process so 920 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:06,559 to be clear the people that are contacting me are the ones that do 921 01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:10,480 specifically um municipalities for the it's not the same guys that fix your tv 922 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:13,359 or install right these are people who do broadcast 923 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,160 they're they're the people that contact those people have been talked to yes 924 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:21,200 okay well they're the ones that are now installing the fiber line that's correct 925 01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:24,799 right same guys well what i can do is i'll have another 926 01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:29,599 meeting with we'll get together internally again with tim and we'll 927 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:33,280 reach out to comcast and att and talk through all these things we'll 928 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:37,520 get ron there and we'll talk through all this and see what we can put together as 929 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:42,000 far as answering those questions well i think it's unfortunate that we're 930 01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:45,280 at this this juncture but once again it's because we didn't start this 931 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:49,200 correctly we did not we should have had all these meanings 932 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:51,839 and all this before the building went up we should have known what we were going 933 01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:55,359 to do where the wire we wouldn't be in the position of needing wireless mics 934 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,880 and all these other things if this would it's not i'm not blaming you please 935 01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:02,960 don't think i'm blaming anybody here i'm just saying once again 936 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:07,119 we didn't have the right captain on the ship and that now we're now we're back 937 01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:10,880 against the wall but i agree with what they're saying if we don't know if a's 938 01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:13,839 going to work with b with c then we're just going to find ourselves 939 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,400 down the road having equipment that doesn't work and saying why did we do 940 01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:21,359 that and that's why we need to table this so 941 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:25,839 we can do all the homework correctly and come again bring everybody that is going 942 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:30,160 to be included in this meeting like ron like tim 943 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:36,000 yes even comcast 80 if even you have to bring no offense again to you even you 944 01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:36,000 have to bring another opinion i mean 945 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,160 that's that's my take do it right 946 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,760 [Music] we can't keep going backwards because we 947 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:51,039 have to move forward how do we move forward we have to move forward the 948 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:56,480 right way so by getting all the information together that we can make 949 01:04:53,599 --> 01:05:00,640 the decision we can all you can tell the scentsy nobody wanted to make a motion 950 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,280 there is a motion in the subject i'll resend my second it's up to all the 951 01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:09,599 rooms but i'm just saying you can tell 952 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:13,039 how everybody was nervous but not voting you know so you're probably not going to 953 01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:16,960 pass through tonight so it's better to send it back the 954 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:21,760 motion gets withdrawn or the second gets withdrawn yeah or you have to 955 01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:25,200 to vote on the motion first that's to ultimate once again i rescind my second 956 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:30,400 okay is there is there an opportunity 957 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:33,680 instead of actually tabling it for two weeks if we were to 958 01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:37,839 um i know we've done it before 959 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:41,440 not recently but recess tonight's meeting and then continue it 960 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,240 next monday where we could actually have a vote on it 961 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:52,319 it's a it's a work session yeah you've had 962 01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,319 yeah 963 01:05:53,839 --> 01:06:00,559 i think we need to have a work session with just this topic 964 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:05,920 parties here so if we were to set it up for next week 965 01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:11,599 on the 15th work session is it a heavy load or is it not a heavy monitor 966 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,599 not yet 967 01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:16,960 i think the mayor makes a good point that's good 968 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,079 question if you can get all the parties together it's going to correct 969 01:06:20,319 --> 01:06:26,480 but it would still be a nice opportunity to be able to actually vote on it that 970 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,480 evening if we could 971 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:34,559 what is our timeline with 972 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:34,559 completion of this project 973 01:06:35,839 --> 01:06:41,839 so no i mean in relation to 974 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:45,680 the opening of or projected opening of the new city hall 975 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:49,380 having everything in place so i know he said four to six weeks on 976 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:53,599 he's waiting on equipment and [Music] 977 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:57,119 getting his team over there and whatnot but i'm 978 01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:01,359 i asked because we're kind of late in the game 979 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:05,520 and um i think i think he's like 980 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,480 their company is like the i think the second or third company that 981 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:12,079 we kind of asked to come and look at this 982 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,240 project because of 983 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:19,359 what's in place now that's not that's not sufficient for what we're 984 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:24,559 trying to do um 985 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:30,240 if if it's possible to get low voltage and comcast and 986 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:33,200 i think att and ron and you know mickey mouse whoever else got 987 01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:37,680 to come if we can get them in the room 988 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:43,839 and and get some some things definitely 989 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:48,559 accomplished on moving forward can we can we get back into a timeline 990 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:52,640 that's suitable for not only the council but 991 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:56,039 the citizens of crest hill can finally see some closure 992 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:03,440 specifically for the av system yes well yeah i don't know yet what the 993 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:07,760 timeline is going to be but obviously it has to be up and running before we can 994 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:12,400 move in the city center oh because i know i remember chief clark 995 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:17,120 um he had a meeting about i think the audio 996 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:20,080 visual over on the on the police side and 997 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:23,279 you know we're we're kind of spinning with audio visual and 998 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:28,319 we uh we have this company which is 999 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,839 fortunately for us right in our backyard um 1000 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:36,000 and and i think we 1001 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:39,920 we're all we we all want the thing to be done right but 1002 01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:43,759 i think we have to consider the timeline that's in place too 1003 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:51,440 uh or create a timeline to be in place to 1004 01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:51,440 get some things accomplished 1005 01:08:51,679 --> 01:08:57,520 you know we don't want to tear stuff apart 1006 01:08:54,319 --> 01:09:01,359 so so they kind of limited us to how do you go about getting it done 1007 01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:04,880 without tearing things apart 1008 01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:11,839 uh it's it's kind of it's puzzling i i i hear everybody's 1009 01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:16,880 concerns and um 1010 01:09:13,839 --> 01:09:19,279 i have concerns as well but i i also want to 1011 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:23,120 get some closure on this city hall 1012 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:27,759 you know we can always have a meeting in the middle of the week and a special 1013 01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:31,199 work session you don't have to wait till next monday to do it 1014 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,400 i mean if you get this equipment in is it all here ready or is it on its way 1015 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:38,000 here or is it equipped where you could use other 1016 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:42,400 places if you had it or something no we would not be releasing this 1017 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,520 that's the biggest problem get all the equipment here at one time so you can do 1018 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,400 the work you know holding your back for another week is 1019 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,960 that going to hurt the equipment is that is it still going to come are you going 1020 01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:54,320 to have it are you worried about not being able to use us or something you 1021 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,760 know there's a lot of questions to be asked 1022 01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:01,199 it's a it's a fair statement i mean you know certainly 1023 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,640 it's every week that goes by it's another 1024 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,199 week that doesn't you know obviously the you know action isn't 1025 01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:11,600 being taken i know that a lot of the lead time 1026 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:15,199 information that we have dug into 1027 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:19,360 throughout this proposal phase has been updated along the way 1028 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:23,199 uh lead times are not improving necessarily but you know for the most in 1029 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,560 many cases they're not necessarily getting any worse just yet either 1030 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:32,080 um but that's an unpredictable 1031 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:35,440 factor that we don't know yet either i mean unfortunately with the 1032 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:39,520 thousands hundreds of thousands of manufacturers that we deal with 1033 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:42,960 it's hard to keep a finger on all of their various lead times but what i can 1034 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:47,679 tell you is that again conservatively speaking seventy 1035 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:51,199 percent of the stuff that we have proposed as part of this system is 1036 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,920 currently readily available 1037 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,199 now if we change something we want something different or add something to 1038 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,520 it we'll let equipment still get in with the other one don't you know 1039 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:05,920 that yet we don't know that yet 1040 01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:11,920 the electronic changes every half hour well the the again the x factor to us 1041 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:15,920 is the unknown of the integration as it ties into the broadcast 1042 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:21,120 system we are knowledgeable enough to know and 1043 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:27,120 understand that there is video feeds and audio feeds that are 1044 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:30,320 likely to tie into this system and we have provisioned 1045 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,159 that connectivity that input that output if 1046 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:39,520 you will for whatever the system is that is going 1047 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:43,760 to be retrofitted on the broadcast side the challenge that low voltage solutions 1048 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:48,000 has had is that we don't even know what that equipment is 1049 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:50,480 either we have the fourth site to be able to 1050 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:58,480 leave the ins and outs available thank you very much sorry 1051 01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:02,719 i should have come to the podium my apologies we did have the foresight to 1052 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:02,719 uh 1053 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:09,440 provision necessary ins and outs to be able to 1054 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,480 what we hope would adapt to that system the problem is it's like 1055 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:16,640 like everybody else here in this room we just don't know what that that system is 1056 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,199 or how it's connected now 1057 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:22,640 maybe i'm not the world's expert on audio visual but joliet 1058 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:27,120 has has their tv 1059 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:30,400 they go to comcast they do all this sure would all these other 1060 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,679 municipalities already do this is it too far of a stretch of our 1061 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:39,840 imagination to maybe give a little ringling to the people that run their av 1062 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:42,960 and say you know who what did you do you know how did you do this i mean i don't 1063 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,080 think they're going to hang the phone up on us 1064 01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:49,840 we could do that i'd rather talk directly to 18 and comcast well i think 1065 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,800 we need to do that too but i'm just saying we don't need to reinvent the 1066 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:56,719 wheel so much as we need to adapt the wheel for us but these other 1067 01:12:54,719 --> 01:13:00,400 municipalities have all done this so it's not like it's it's unheard of no i 1068 01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:04,159 know that connectivity will never be a part 1069 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:08,000 of your scope correct not really no 1070 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:11,040 you're right you know partners could be our fault too we should have gotten into 1071 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,880 this about a year ago two years the building's being done get it going get 1072 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:18,880 all the bugs out that we could have absolutely nobody last minute we've got 1073 01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:23,199 to get it done and right now you know electronics don't work right there all 1074 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:27,600 right first of all the alderman kubal are you willing to rescind your i will 1075 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:30,880 resend it yes i'll receive my other person overland you already said you 1076 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:36,000 would rescind your second okay i would suggest that we get all the all the 1077 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:40,560 all the people that are needed together at a meeting that is the loan agenda 1078 01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:44,640 item for that evening we'll have to pick the date make sure that everybody's 1079 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:49,679 available we can certainly organize that i would suggest that we table this 1080 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:54,080 this resolution um for awarding to the city center and 1081 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:57,520 and we move forward 1082 01:13:55,679 --> 01:14:01,520 at a work session where we could discuss this in detail 1083 01:13:59,679 --> 01:14:05,360 fair enough i would ask for a motion to table 1084 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:08,480 a second can i ask you a little bit same thing 1085 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:12,960 can we pass us here well it's not there's not a motion 1086 01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:17,840 yeah let's move on i would say okay that's all i wanna know do we need 1087 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:22,960 to do the role called before rescinding um no no i think it's it's on the record 1088 01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:26,960 all right we have a motion to table this uh topic by all the person overland 1089 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:32,239 seconded by alderwoman because all questions or comments 1090 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:37,760 roll call please mark zappedy yes nate albert yes joe kubo yes scott dyke yes 1091 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,960 yes darrell jefferson yeah clyde dissolved yes 1092 01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:44,960 yes okay we'll let's move forward with 1093 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:50,400 getting all the keeping people here for a work session 1094 01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:53,600 and loan top of that for that evening fair enough fair enough 1095 01:14:53,920 --> 01:15:01,840 thanks eric thank you dustin thank you john 1096 01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:06,159 i do want us to consider if we get all the things worked out a possible special 1097 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:10,640 meeting so we come to an agreement we can 1098 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,600 vote on this and move forward before two weeks 1099 01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:20,560 okay anything else from your gym i was just mentioning the gym 1100 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,480 you don't have to make it a work session you could make a special meeting that's 1101 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:29,040 a regular city council meeting with the only topic being this item and if all 1102 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,719 the questions are answered to your satisfaction you want to move forward on 1103 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,600 it you can vote on it that night okay it's going to be a special meeting that 1104 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:38,880 could be next monday you don't have to call it a work session 1105 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,760 we've done that years ago we've done that it wasn't years ago i remember 1106 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,880 doing that and it doesn't have to be on monday 1107 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:49,440 night that's right as long as you post a special meeting 1108 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,440 you can have a sunday night 1109 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,840 okay any questions for city administrator 1110 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:59,040 all right thanks jim um moving on public works department our 1111 01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:02,080 director of public works mark seaford good evening mark good evening ladies 1112 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,520 and gentlemen the first agenda i have for you is the 1113 01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:10,800 intergovernmental agreement with will county regarding the lighted street 1114 01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:15,520 signs um this will allow the city to put the lighted street signs on weber road 1115 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,760 for the two newly named roads so move as presented 1116 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,239 second there we have motioned by alderman 1117 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:23,840 albert seconded by all the person in oberlin for the intergovernmental 1118 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:27,360 agreement with will county regarding the lighted street signs questions or 1119 01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:33,280 comments roll call please joe kubo yes scott dyke 1120 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:38,159 yes trevor shay darrell jefferson yes buddy gazelle yes tina oberlin yes 1121 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:42,560 mark's pewdie yeah nate albert yes motion carries resolution the resolution 1122 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:46,239 1141. the next item is the 1123 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:51,280 uh the first one is the ordinance amending title 13 of the 1124 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,880 water and sewer code this one is the water meter section uh this talks about 1125 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:58,320 all the items being changed from the clerk to the director of public works so 1126 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:01,280 move we have motion by alderman albert's 1127 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:04,239 second to buy all them it's a pity for an ordinance amending title 13 the water 1128 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,360 and sewer um 1129 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:11,520 of the city of crestville this was discussed last week at our work session 1130 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:15,920 questions or comments roll call please scott dice yes john 1131 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:21,199 beshea darrell jefferson yeah scotty gazelle yes tina oberlin yes mark speedy 1132 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:26,239 yes nate albert yes joe cool yes motion carries ordinance 1895. the next item is 1133 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:31,040 an ordinance repealing and replacing title 13 limitations on sprinkler 1134 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:34,080 devices with a new chapter 1306 water conservation this was presented at the 1135 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,679 last work session second 1136 01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:41,199 we have motioned by other person overland seconded by alderman 1137 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,120 albert in regards to the sprinkling 1138 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:48,159 um system 1139 01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:50,880 questions or comments roll call please 1140 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:58,719 john richey yes terrell jefferson yes buddy gazelle 1141 01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:02,480 yes tina oberlin yes mark yeah nate albert yes 1142 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:05,920 yes scott dyke yes motion carries ordinance 18 1143 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,440 95 the next one 1144 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:12,480 that's gonna be 1896. the next ordinance amends provisions of 1145 01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:17,760 13 chapter 24 the water and sewer rates 1146 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:21,920 these directly reflect the burns and mcdonald's suggestions that were talked 1147 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:26,000 about at a few work sessions ago with the water and sewer rates to cover 1148 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:29,120 the incoming capital charges that we shall be seeing 1149 01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:32,480 some moves second 1150 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:37,679 we have motioned by other woman gazelle questioned by alderman jefferson 1151 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:41,520 for an ordinance amending the what sewer and water rates in 1152 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:45,040 regards to lake michigan water questions or comments 1153 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:50,400 roll call police nate albert yes joe kubal yes scott dyke 1154 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:54,000 yes chamber shay yes darrell jefferson yes 1155 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:58,719 yes you know yes mark stephen motion carries ordnance 1897. 1156 01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:02,080 the next is a resolution approving engagement letter with the city of crest 1157 01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:06,640 hill and chapman and cutler chapman fellow will be our bond council for the 1158 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:10,800 west plant improvement projects this is a not to exceed contract for fifty five 1159 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:14,719 thousand dollars a second 1160 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:18,239 we have motion by elder personnel and second by alderman albert for the 1161 01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:22,560 chapman cutler engagement letter questions or comments 1162 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:27,600 roll call please joe coobel yes scott dyke yes john richard darrell jefferson 1163 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:32,239 yes claudia gazelle yes you know berlin yes mark zucchini yes nate albert yes 1164 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:36,159 motion carries resolution 1142. 1165 01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:38,880 the last item i have before you is a resolution improving agreement between 1166 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:43,920 the city of crest hill and williams brothers for the emergency removal of 1167 01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:47,679 the west plant digester lid um this was this they come in at 51 000 and i did 1168 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,960 just find out this afternoon it will be covered by 1169 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:54,159 insurance second we have a motion by all the person 1170 01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:58,560 overland second by alderman petty for the approval of the emergency repairs to 1171 01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:02,640 the west plant digester lid questions or comments 1172 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:07,679 roll call please scott dyke yes john mccain yes darrell jefferson yeah scotty 1173 01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:13,360 gazelle yes tina overland yes mark peaty yes nate albert yes joe cuba 1174 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:16,880 motion carries resolution 1143. that is all i have to say and happy 1175 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:22,159 entertaining questions you may have questions of public works 1176 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:25,440 okay thanks mark moving on city engineer 1177 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:30,719 city engineer ron wiedemanns here good evening thank you mayor um first item i 1178 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:35,199 have is uh for approval tonight of a resolution of two proposals from mead 1179 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,960 electric the first proposal is to furnish and 1180 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:42,080 install cabinet equipment for them out of twenty three thousand five sixty six 1181 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:46,920 seventy the second is for video uh detection 1182 01:20:44,639 --> 01:20:53,360 upgrade for the amount of 32 259.35 again this work is to be paid out 1183 01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:58,080 of our current mft funds um the only comment i want to make to the resolution 1184 01:20:55,440 --> 01:21:01,840 is change the reference to paranar to len kabinsky drive 1185 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:06,719 second motion by elder woman gazelle seconded 1186 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:11,120 by alderman albert for a resolution approving proposals by mead 1187 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:16,159 incorporated for cayton farm and len kaminsky drive 1188 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:19,679 traffic signal repair and upgrade this was also uh discussed last monday night 1189 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:23,920 at the work session questions or comments yeah i'm just curious several 1190 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:28,880 of these had this on what was the point of the 1191 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,880 uh last page thing of exhibit a 1192 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:37,440 and all these documents technically they're probably they're referencing my 1193 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,600 memo with the proposal that would be because all these 1194 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,080 documents all these things they have this list 1195 01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:57,840 okie dokie 1196 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:07,120 um second item i have is we have roll call 1197 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,120 oh 1198 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,040 we had a motion yeah i made them 1199 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:24,880 yes darrell jefferson yes buddy yes yes mark 1200 01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:29,440 yes kate albert yes joe kubo scott dyke yes motion carries resolution 1144. 1201 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:38,159 the second item i have for the installation of the led street name 1202 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:43,199 signs again with a proposal for me to do this work for twenty four thousand nine 1203 01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:48,320 eighty five ninety so i'm looking for uh proof so move this percentage second 1204 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:53,199 i guess you can't you have anything else to add 1205 01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:56,480 i'm making up time man all right we have motion by older person 1206 01:22:54,639 --> 01:23:00,320 in overland i heard about three seconds i'll go with alderman dyke i heard that 1207 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:05,040 one um for the uh approving a proposal by me 1208 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:09,920 for the led street lights installation questions or comments yeah 1209 01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:14,239 mayor just one one comment i i think we should continue to look into 1210 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:19,360 uh the weber road and city center boulevard intersection there 1211 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:22,080 to see if we can get that for sign up where it should be 1212 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,199 thank you 1213 01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:33,040 all right roll call please darrell jefferson 1214 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:38,000 yes claudia gazelle yeah oberlin yes mark speedy nate albert yes goku ball 1215 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:42,440 yes scott dyke yes john mercedes yes motion carries resolution 1145. 1216 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,280 that's all i have when somebody has any questions okay any questions of city 1217 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:53,920 engineer thank you 1218 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:57,600 all right thanks ron uh community development steve golden 1219 01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:01,040 good evening steve i do have a lengthy report but i'll make it sure 1220 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,400 just one quick i had four or five things here but just what i just wanted uh the 1221 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:09,360 council to update on we met with the developer that owns the uh southeast 1222 01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:13,520 corner of the industrial park uh southeast 1223 01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:16,800 corner in industrial park on farm in weber 1224 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:21,199 uh right by the gymnastics uh he's got two vacant lots uh adjacent to 1225 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:24,719 the railroad tracks uh we told the developer that he needs to partner with 1226 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,880 the city regarding adding a second entrance 1227 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:31,760 into that right now there's only one entrance that goes on the caden farm 1228 01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:35,440 he'd also want to build metal buildings we told him that battle buildings are no 1229 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,440 longer 1230 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:40,639 appropriate here at cresthill we asked him to partner with us 1231 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:44,000 and we continue to work through those 1232 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:48,159 those issues but we believe that moore and i met we believe it is imperative to 1233 01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:51,199 have a second entrance going out there because right now in order to get into 1234 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:55,440 the gymnastics you have to go through the industrial area to get to that 1235 01:24:53,360 --> 01:25:00,320 building and so we talked about getting a second entrance directly to the north 1236 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,480 of the uh gymnastics area on that vacant land 1237 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,600 right on the east property line 1238 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,719 so that's where we're at had several other 1239 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:12,800 meetings with developers and i won't bore you we'll put it in 1240 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:17,199 paper so that's my report well you never bore us 1241 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,600 all right so um there's gas and wash we met with gas and wash 1242 01:25:18,639 --> 01:25:23,760 um they want to move as quick as possible 1243 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:27,679 we did say that we want a development agreement that ties into the 1244 01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:30,960 time frame when the strip law is going to be built 1245 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,199 they agree to a time frame so jim and i will be working on a development 1246 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:36,880 agreement with them 1247 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:40,719 presented to the council and rob's engineering will be doing the survey for 1248 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:43,600 the right of way here at uh 1249 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:48,480 in front of the property that the state owns of course we had more of that way 1250 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:51,840 of course maura contacted the state and we asked for a copy of their legal 1251 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:55,920 description and they have no record of the legal description of this property 1252 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:59,520 so we have to create it ourselves in order to get it transferred to the 1253 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:03,840 city of cresthill so robinson's working on that 1254 01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:08,639 and then mike and i met with mike excuse me chris 1255 01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:11,760 page and i met i'm finalizing the sales contract here 1256 01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:15,679 jim has made some comments on it the comments went back to chris and 1257 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:20,800 hopefully we'll present that in two weeks of the sales contract to the 1258 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:23,920 council what jimin recommended and more recommended is that we have some 1259 01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:29,520 exclusions on different commercial things we don't want such as massage 1260 01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:33,520 parlors or you know um just different things smoke shops and 1261 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:37,290 you know different things we want to prohibit from coming in on this corner 1262 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:41,440 and so we made some [Music] 1263 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:45,199 suggestions and uh that'll be put into the agreement as well 1264 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:48,960 so those are things that we're working on 1265 01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:52,000 that's it okay any questions of community 1266 01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:55,360 development all right thanks steve 1267 01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:59,840 police department we have with us tonight uh our deputy chief jason opio 1268 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:04,960 good evening jason good evening everyone there are no agenda items 1269 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:09,360 that we have on before anyone and the police activity 1270 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:12,159 report is in is in your packet as well i'll be under tweeting any questions if 1271 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,360 anybody has them any questions of police 1272 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:21,120 all right great report jason 1273 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:25,040 i'm moving on to the mayor's report i have no agenda items i just have three 1274 01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:30,080 announcements uh the city of cresthill has joined with uh our state senator meg 1275 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:35,520 meg capelle uh for the use of uh the mobile 1276 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:41,199 secretary of state uh mobile secretary of state event um on 1277 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:45,199 august 13th between 10 a.m and 2 p.m at our new city hall um so a lot of 1278 01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:48,400 services will be available for individuals for renewing driver's 1279 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:52,320 licenses license plate stickers everything else 1280 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,960 so please mark that date in your calendar 1281 01:27:53,360 --> 01:28:00,560 the second one with st patrick's day a little over one week 1282 01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:05,280 away for our ninth our ninth year now we will 1283 01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:08,560 be uh sending out the rebate checks the property tax rebate checks which is a 1284 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:14,159 rebate on uh 25 percent of the 1285 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:18,320 municipal portion of your property tax bill if you filled out the proper 1286 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:22,000 paperwork last last fall 1287 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:27,199 those will be going in the mail on march 16th so you should be receiving 1288 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:35,840 your property tax rebate check on or about st patrick's day march 17th 1289 01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:40,880 and the last item that i have just uh wishing everybody to have a 1290 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:44,719 responsible safe and a very enjoyable st patrick's day with that i'll entertain 1291 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:48,239 any questions you may have with my sister 1292 01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:52,159 hearing none we'll move on to the city clerk's report our city clerk christine 1293 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:58,000 vershay hall good evening chris good evening and i have nothing to report any 1294 01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:02,639 questions of city clerk thanks chris uh our city treasurer's 1295 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:06,560 report glenn conklin good evening glenn good evening mayor and council 1296 01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:10,159 lisa would you like to answer the first item we'd like me to 1297 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:14,280 would you like me to handle the resolution on the artists 1298 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:40,239 motion by elder person overland seconded by other women who's all for a 1299 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:43,840 resolution of proving an audit engagement letter by in between the city 1300 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:49,280 of crest hill will county illinois and wilmer rogers duran and rouzan llc 1301 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:54,400 questions or comments roll call please mark the petey yes nate 1302 01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:58,800 albert yes joe cuball yes scott dyke yes jon reshade yes terrell jefferson yes 1303 01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:03,520 claudia gaza yes tina oberlin yes motion carries resolution 1146. 1304 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:07,760 i thank you all as a reminder they've done an incredible job for us in years 1305 01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:12,239 past however uh next year we're going to send out an rrsp kind of cast a little 1306 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,840 little net there to see what what is available and at what price but uh 1307 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:21,600 it has no reflection on their performance today so thanks police and 1308 01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:25,360 jim for submitting that um otherwise i'd just like to report the 1309 01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:31,040 regular overtime payroll from february 14 2022 1310 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:36,159 through the 27th of uh february 2022 in the amount of 241 1311 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:41,199 929 dollars and 91 cents i seek a motion for approval on our list 1312 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:47,600 of bills which during that same same time frame total of 696 1313 01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:49,760 654 dollars and 52 cents so move just presented 1314 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,719 second we have motion by roller person overland 1315 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,520 seconded by alderman jefferson for the approval of the list the bills questions 1316 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:59,760 or comments we'll roll call please nate albert yes 1317 01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:04,880 councilwoman yes scott dyke yes stronger shades darrell jefferson yes yes in 1318 01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:08,560 overland yes mark speedy yes motion carries thank you 1319 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:13,679 i think you'll take any questions if you have them questions of city treasure i 1320 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:18,480 have a request i'm not sure if this is to treasure or to you probably most like 1321 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:24,840 it to you lisa can i get uh the financial update for our city center 1322 01:31:20,719 --> 01:31:24,840 where we at so far um 1323 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:44,800 so the amount that has been spent year-to-date as of right now is 14 1324 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:49,080 million 256 357. 1325 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:57,480 that does include the land purchase of 1 million 1326 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,480 106 000. 1327 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:10,480 yeah sure did you have any other questions as far as no i'm just curious 1328 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,040 like what we budgeted where we at that's what i would like 1329 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:21,520 what i did was i went back and i listened to one of the meetings when 1330 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:25,520 nick presented so nick had presented council with the original budget that 1331 01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:30,560 did not include the land purchase of 13 million 500 but then he also came back 1332 01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:34,960 and said he thought that he might be seven percent over that 1333 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:40,600 amount so if you factor that seven percent and the total building budget 1334 01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:44,239 itself without the land could be 14 445 1335 01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:49,520 so if you took that compared to what we've currently spent that would mean 1336 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:54,159 there'd be 1 million 294 642 and 44 cents left to spend if he was 1337 01:32:51,920 --> 01:33:01,520 going to stay on track of that original 13.5 plus the seven percent overage so 1338 01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:04,960 uh jim's been working with harbor as far as 1339 01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:10,000 trying to put together a better estimate of what we still have left right if you 1340 01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:15,360 recall we engaged harvard to go through all the contracts and the paperwork 1341 01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:18,880 and do a comparison of what was budgeted what was contracted with the 1342 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:22,960 subcontractors what's been paid out which orders are there and what's 1343 01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:26,159 remaining to be paid out they're still going through those 1344 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:29,679 documents there's a lot of documents that 1345 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:33,040 you know they had difficulty finding so they're sorting through them and putting 1346 01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:37,120 together that list so once they have all that together we'll 1347 01:33:34,639 --> 01:33:40,320 have a better sense of how much is left can you uh 1348 01:33:38,639 --> 01:33:43,920 when you get all that i know you have a lot and you played uh 1349 01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:48,719 wait can you give us some updates oh yeah what's going on financially so 1350 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:53,199 you're only including what's been paid out so any of the items you've listed 1351 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:56,719 now that weren't paid are not included so anything that's been encumbered for 1352 01:33:55,120 --> 01:34:00,639 work that's already been done ahead and get paid that is not included here or 1353 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:05,600 anything that's yet to do and we're looking at over 300 here on this little 1354 01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:08,000 party tonight so something tells me we're going to be over 1355 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,679 well a couple things to consider too is that 1356 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:16,480 we had uh i believe in part of that budget that you uh or the amount that 1357 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:20,880 you have is the the purchase of the land for the she subtracted it 1358 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:26,080 well we also had that the the actual price of the of the property itself 1359 01:34:24,639 --> 01:34:30,239 is that accurate are you talking about the sale of this land 1360 01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:33,440 or the people talking about the purchase of the land okay we have the purchase of 1361 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:37,040 the land over there did we allocate some additional money within that budget for 1362 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:41,520 the park or is that this is strictly just a strict for that 1363 01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:45,199 building right so my assumption is that what you're looking to be provided with 1364 01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:49,600 would be the spend to date 1365 01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:53,440 the encumbered amounts um 1366 01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,159 as well as what we see as projected costs and just see what our spread is 1367 01:34:55,040 --> 01:35:00,400 from what we originally budgeted to what uh what we 1368 01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:03,600 expect to spend to the best of our knowledge i mean 1369 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:08,560 it's going to be uh i think we put that together in a 1370 01:35:05,119 --> 01:35:08,560 reasonable way that's going to be 1371 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:14,560 less than 100 accurate for the information we know 1372 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:18,320 um and then we also should have it at a 1373 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:22,320 discussion perhaps the work section i don't want to be clobbered on the next 1374 01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:24,880 one but we should go over the uh the public works building where we're at 1375 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:29,520 on that um where we're at with harbor as far as 1376 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:32,560 like our lean waivers where we went with budget on that 1377 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:35,920 as well as i think we need to put that into context 1378 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:40,800 as far as what we propose to do over at public works 1379 01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:45,280 building versus what we got and what it cost us 1380 01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:45,280 to get it 1381 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:49,280 because i believe there are some items on that 1382 01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:56,960 original proposal that you guys have approved 1383 01:35:53,520 --> 01:36:00,560 that perhaps were not done uh upon the com what we call the completion of that 1384 01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:05,440 building so i think it's important for you guys to to see where we're at and i 1385 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:09,520 think those figures we can get to you um i think the only thing left we have 1386 01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:13,199 to spend on that is the uh tie up for the 1387 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,920 uh waivers of lean and i think we'll find out what that was 1388 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:20,000 going to cost can we talk about for public works correct right so harvard's 1389 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,800 going to work on that next we wanted them to concentrate on the city center 1390 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:26,560 first so they're going through all the city 1391 01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:30,800 center documents now and they're looking at what lean waivers we have and which 1392 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:34,719 ones are missing and they have reached out to the contractors and asked them to 1393 01:36:32,719 --> 01:36:38,880 submit missing documents so the contractors have been responsive 1394 01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:44,400 so they're in the process of collecting it and organizing it uh harvard came 1395 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:47,679 here last week and picked up two boxes of file cabinets they're going to scan 1396 01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:51,199 everything so we don't just have paper copies 1397 01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:55,040 they're coming back i think tomorrow morning pick up a couple more boxes and 1398 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:58,480 they're going to scan those but we asked them to concentrate on the 1399 01:36:56,480 --> 01:37:01,280 city center first and then we know we need to have them do the same thing at 1400 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:04,159 public works so once we're done with the city center 1401 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,400 they'll go through the same process for all the paperwork we have at public 1402 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,920 works and we'll put all those numbers together 1403 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:13,600 and have a better sense where we're at yeah and also 1404 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:17,040 in regard to harvard uh you approved some 1405 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:22,159 some list of bills some bills on the list this evening 1406 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:26,239 of which those uh checks going out to our contractors 1407 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:31,360 will be here and will be handed over with waivers of lien moving forward so 1408 01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:36,719 harbor's done a good job of keeping the heat on there and it's the 1409 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:40,320 fee for harbor included in the bills they have been they will be there's one 1410 01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:43,280 on here for yeah i mean they're on here we have one 1411 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,880 for twelve thousand nine hundred and ten dollars as they bill us that way i just 1412 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,960 wanna make sure that's included because it's 1413 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:55,600 and then i think there's some things to consider on that budget about what our 1414 01:37:53,360 --> 01:38:01,119 spend was versus what we were expected to is that um through that process there 1415 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:04,960 were some change orders made that were approved so we have to take a look at 1416 01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:08,960 those and try to factor those in as best we can to to give you a final number on 1417 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:12,239 that quartz building as well as the status on our wayward means 1418 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:18,239 so if we can please put that on it which if council 1419 01:38:16,639 --> 01:38:23,119 chooses can we have that in an upcoming work session perhaps within the month 1420 01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:27,280 well what i'll do is uh once harvard has the report done and the information then 1421 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,760 i'll provide that to you so perhaps it doesn't need to be a work 1422 01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:33,360 session but if we can get that information to you right regardless and 1423 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:38,159 then right if that's okay about you guys 1424 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:42,960 all right thank you okay thanks len unfinished business we 1425 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:48,480 have nothing on the agenda anybody new business anybody 1426 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,480 committee liaison reports anyone 1427 01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:57,119 city council comments positive city council comments anything you'd like to 1428 01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,119 share with under your constituents 1429 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,350 [Music] 1430 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:12,159 entry this saturday it was amazing huge we had cars lined up always to the 1431 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,159 city hall 1432 01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:22,970 see so many people gather for this i want to give a special thanks to um 1433 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:28,000 scotland from library for allowing us [Music] 1434 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:32,239 using the parking lot for calvary church avoid a food pantry 1435 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:37,360 and to all volunteers we had 130 families and 231 children that they were 1436 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:41,520 blessed this weekend so i just want to say that and i'm happy 1437 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,159 that we're gonna continue partnering with them and they're also gonna help 1438 01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:50,320 our local food pantry with some uh food 1439 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:55,040 so i'm very happy about that thank you man alderman jefferson 1440 01:39:52,639 --> 01:39:55,040 nothing 1441 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:02,880 i just want to wish everyone a happy saint patrick's at the thing 1442 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:08,119 be safe out there that's it 1443 01:40:04,719 --> 01:40:08,119 four of them 1444 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:15,760 no i just uh want to thank everybody here for uh 1445 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:19,440 a good meeting i feel like we covered a lot and we're all respectful so we 1446 01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:22,719 appreciate it we're 1447 01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:22,719 three 1448 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:31,600 i'd like to wish everybody a very happy saint patty's day my favorite holiday 1449 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:37,199 even though i was married on that day um still my favorite holiday so have a 1450 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:40,320 wonderful and safe okay public comment anyone like to 1451 01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:44,000 address city council please come to the podium state your name for the record 1452 01:40:41,679 --> 01:40:48,400 address is optional but the records show that no one has 1453 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:53,360 approached the podium to our city attorney mike is there a 1454 01:40:50,719 --> 01:40:58,080 need for an executive session no motion to adjourn there second we have the 1455 01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:01,920 motion for an adjournment by alderman and i heard all them in jefferson on a 1456 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:05,400 second roll call please 1457 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:16,880 yes nate albert yes joe ball yes scott dyke yes chamber yes darrell jefferson 1458 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,840 yes motion carries all right meeting is adjourned 1459 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,880 you