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Follow, we need to be sent to the court.

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Just a few minutes a day.

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You know, we need to be sent to the court.

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You know, we need to be sent to the court.

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You know, we need to be sent to the court.

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You're actually a mutable note.

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I mean, I son can't really be using animals.

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No, we've got doctors right there.

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I do.

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Right over there.

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Yep.

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I got a spasm.

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Ah!

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Translation.

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I thought that.

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I thought that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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It's 4 p.m.

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Everyone.

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I would like to call this meeting to order.

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This is a over-14th regular council meeting.

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They have a very full agenda.

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And lots of people here for change.

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It's great to have full gallery.

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You're welcome.

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Everybody.

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So we'd like to start by having our CAO introduce two new members of our staff.

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First off, I'll start with our new director finance.

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Today is the first day.

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I'm going to be familiar.

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Right?

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Two hours.

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Make a power.

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And then you're going to come.

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Come to us formally.

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Working for the provincial public health authority.

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In charge of the BC Children's Hospital.

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And council was very.

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But I'm not sure to be him in Victoria.

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When you guys are givey Sam.

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And so this is the sort of his tenure here.

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Yeah.

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Welcome.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Oh.

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Like the entries Scott Pemperton.

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He is our new manager of utilities.

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Which was a position that we had identified to organize the National Assessment last year.

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And so after that.

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I think some time to return.

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We found the best candidate was actually working there.

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We've been working there for a while.

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We're manager for the jury.

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And say this in first day.

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Well, that's fine.

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That's not the first time we've rated the brewery.

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That's what we're saying.

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That's what we're saying.

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That's what we're saying.

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We're saying.

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And I'd like to begin now by acknowledging that this meeting is taken place on the unseated traditional territory of the

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Ok.

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And I'd like to do what I also want to introduce it's an extra motion before we start.

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Just to have a motion for freedom of the floor to direct a Roger Kierney.

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Because he has a regional directory will be a participant probably in the report on our fire service of soap.

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Director van Bergs online as well.

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So we will entertain a motion for feeding with the four fire two resolvers.

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Councilor Baldwin second Councilor Duelas discussion on favor.

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Motion is carried.

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So you will be able to ask questions and participate at the appropriate time.

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Thank you.

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So now I would ask for a motion that we adopt the minutes of the regular council.

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Sorry, the agenda of today's council meeting.

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Councilor, very seconded.

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Councilor Paul in on favor.

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Motion is carried.

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Now we'll get to the minutes the.

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We motion to adopt the minutes of the previous council meeting held on September 16,

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2025 motion to Councilor Duelas seconded.

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Councilor Martin on favor.

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Motion is carried.

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And just a note there.

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There was a brief correction that happened.

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We'll take care of.

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So if anybody notices it, I'll give you the order.

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For more.

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There.

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There.

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So I guess we could now begin with the verbal and written reports of council.

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Now one of we can make that screen bigger.

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She's not so strong enough for that.

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Thank you.

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So we'll begin again.

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On the 18th of September, I attended your regular already CK board meeting.

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On the week of September 19th to 25th.

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The UBCM convention in Victoria.

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On.

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I think that's our total fifth question.

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Seconder.

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So the second question.

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Value services committee meeting.

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On the 8th of October.

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And coffee talk.

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Mayor Council also on the 8th of October.

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Council areas.

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Yeah.

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And I on September.

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16th was at the request and ballot public library meeting.

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And then on September 26th.

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The.

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The UBCM convention.

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I'm so pleased.

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I'm curious.

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There's September 26th.

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The UBCM convention.

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September 30th with the truth and reconciliation.

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The UBCM convention walks one for areas.

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School and then the other node of that.

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Yeah.

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Can you do any.

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October 1st was water services committee.

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And October 6 is Blossom festival committee.

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Council.

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Dr. Iike tober eight.

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Coffee talks at Mary Council on.

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Yes, council.

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Hall at home.

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On September 26th, we go.

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We want to do the same convention.

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And October 2nd has a public art work

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and committee meeting.

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No, folks with all of them.

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Very few.

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During the rest of the team, the UVCM prevention

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for the week and October,

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oh yeah, October 2nd,

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I read your board meeting with the

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Christian Valley Forest Corporation

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and following that the two day session

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on strategic planning with the

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Christian Valley Forest Corporation again,

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with things came out of there.

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And also coffee talk on the eight as well.

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No, so we're hoping that.

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Mm-hmm.

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September 22nd to the 26th,

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so you'll be CM and then on September 29th,

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I attended the Aries Assembly for the National Day

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for Truth and That Consolation.

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And we walked up to because they packed

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with the students.

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Okay, I just wanted to add.

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In my Christmas happers meeting,

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I'm able to record on it,

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but the adventure in our community is,

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who, again, have Christmas happers this year,

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where it appeared that they weren't going to occur,

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but the work is being done behind the scenes

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by the Chamber of Commerce and the Leaders Society

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to try and continue with happers.

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And it may be done a little differently.

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They haven't finished their plan.

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But it's talking to our communities and values.

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And they are very dedicated to trying to make this work.

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So I appreciate that.

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And I just wanted to say that before you got out of this part of our meeting.

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So every said that,

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I would then ask for a motion that the verbal and written reports

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of council would receive.

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Council involvement, second,

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We will continue with our meeting now and with the motion that council resolves itself into the committee of the whole of the next part.

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Now, we'll start with the delegation from the road.

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And while I set my page, we will react and get on with what we have to do now.

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We'll start with the delegation from the road.

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We've got to continue to park ball field project and request through the town of Creston.

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The road where you are up.

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We need to come up to the front here.

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Thanks.

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Thanks.

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Well.

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Jason Messinger.

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There's stack.

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Nathan Hemiger.

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And we're here to fill you in on our ball field project as Centennial.

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The roader has a long history at the park.

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We built this flash part.

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The billion.

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Washrooms.

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The outdoor gym, picnic shelter.

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And the children's playground.

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And it doesn't seem that long ago that that was done, but I was one of those old guys up on the.

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A billion cut in the metal and talking about that roof.

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Doesn't seem that long ago.

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The roader is all about building and building community.

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And so our club approached a minor baseball.

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And the senior slope pitch, the uses of the ball field of year ago.

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And because we were looking for a project.

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And it seemed a natural, especially when we looked at the condition of the ball field.

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So we've been on this for about a year.

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And I will let Darren talk to you about the scope of the, of the worst involved in the project.

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We have some pictures up on the.

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Over the work from the ball field, if you would like to scrape the grounds right down,

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fill in all the bottles.

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Stoll a new sprinkler system.

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You saw.

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A red shield rock on all the base lines on the infield there.

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We would also like to do some bleachers.

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Thanks to some of the fancy in the course.

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Read you the dugouts.

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And a storage shed.

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And I believe the thing on this was the netting on the back fence that's curved.

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We keep the balls in the field properly.

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I think that's some scope of the work.

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Think.

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Yeah.

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Easy.

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Anything else.

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I could just.

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Keep it.

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Save your time.

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A lot of benefits to the community.

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And I carry this project through.

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The field obviously needs series work to it.

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This project would also provide a.

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State of the art.

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Sports hop in the community.

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The.

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Nathan can certainly tell you more about the need by from from the baseball perspective.

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And I think that was a lot of the opportunity concerns.

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Public accessibility concerns.

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So the whole process of carrying this through will.

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Eleminate some of the unsafe field conditions.

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And more importantly it expands the.

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Seasonal use of the field.

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And the daytime new season.

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And finally, if we carry through with the night lighting, yeah, we're all about the night lighting.

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Yeah, I suppose.

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It would also provide a venue that would, in fact, not just local, but also regional,

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the ball teams to come to Crest and who don't come now.

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So what do we need from the town?

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And I briefly investigated funding for this project.

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We're probably going to need access of $300,000.

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It seems like a large number.

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But the feedback I've been getting from possible donors has been positive.

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So that doesn't discourage us.

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But what's become clear is the need for a strategic plan from the town,

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concerning the long-term support that would be needed on the field.

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The donors who are interested in putting money forward want to make sure that when they invest that money,

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that the long-term security will be there.

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That requires a strategic plan from the town.

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It also requires a memorandum of agreement between the town and the users of the ball field.

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We need that for me to go out and ask for people to donate money.

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And, of course, a letter of support from the town or the use of the project itself.

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And, of course, financing financial donations.

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But that said, that's in the future.

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The whole funding is based on a budget.

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We don't have a complete budget right now because some of the costs aren't clear.

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And it will impact the overall budget for the project.

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It's amazing how the numbers escalate when you start talking about this.

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But I have been to Castle and I've been to Fruitvale.

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And I can see what communities are capable of doing when they are committed to making a project work and they have fabulous facilities there.

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Anybody has any questions that we could.

271
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I had to do a cultural home.

272
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Is there any additional equipment beyond what we already have that would be required to maintain the new and improved field?

273
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Well, sort of answer that.

274
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There would be some I'll keep material needed.

275
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I would say an excess of a fresh shell.

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The current.

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And dragging and ranking systems would probably need an upgrade as well.

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Overall in in this scope of the cost.

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The maintenance.

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Tools won't be that much of a.

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So I would say also that with in these plans is is the.

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The inclusion of building a new story ship for the maintenance equipment.

283
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Right.

284
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And therefore it would be a lot more safe to store this new equipment.

285
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It's nice good.

286
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Just kind of one more.

287
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How often would you be replacing ideally the red shell.

288
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Not it wouldn't be a replacement to it be double.

289
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Yeah, I talk about you know, you would probably want to do that at least once a year.

290
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Okay, do a full late full top up.

291
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You know, replacements like an ash or repletment.

292
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I mean, you're probably in the 15 years.

293
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Right.

294
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That's.

295
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But welcome.

296
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It's a small thing, but have you talked to any of the neighbors about the lighting itself?

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And then it was with there be any push back on.

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Accentally extended hours.

299
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No, I haven't personally talked to the neighbors about the lighting.

300
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I did in the.

301
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The ball field teams that you've on say that they would.

302
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They got the other happens.

303
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Yeah, I know you're saying the only feedback that we've gotten from neighbors.

304
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It is falls.

305
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You should out of the ball park and this is why we're looking at this net net net.

306
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Yeah.

307
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Yeah.

308
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Some of the some of the neighbors that are long.

309
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You're going to shoot it as well.

310
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Some of them are actually part of our minor baseball.

311
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That helps.

312
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Yeah.

313
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This isn't that bold.

314
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Yeah.

315
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What's playing on point a month.

316
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Some sort of a kind of resistance.

317
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It should all play.

318
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It's a kind of an ace.

319
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They are right all night.

320
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Okay.

321
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I have a couple of questions.

322
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The timing of this because you don't want to be doing this during baseball season.

323
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Do you have a proposed schedule yet?

324
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Are you waiting for some more information?

325
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Well, we were open to do some of it yet this year.

326
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But we need permission to do it before going ahead with it.

327
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You think we were open to do the story shed this year.

328
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And a later is.

329
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And we were open to do the restoration on it.

330
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Two dugouts this year.

331
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And then trying to do the major big stuff right at the end of ball season next year.

332
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One second question is more directed to our CAO.

333
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This strategic plan and the memorandum of agreement.

334
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That would also involve the representative and RDCK.

335
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Would it not Mike?

336
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Well,

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We're not entirely sure because I guess it just depends on the cost.

338
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They'll be ongoing maintenance and how that fits into the recreation service.

339
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So it doesn't necessarily have to involve a reader.

340
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No, but we're looking.

341
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You could be looking.

342
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I think there is a part that's here in CK would be playing in this because of being a contributor to the recreation.

343
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So I'm not sure what it entails, but I think that there is input needed there.

344
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Now, I mean, tell all that.

345
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We're not ready to make a motion on this now.

346
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We will be actually the next.

347
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We have to think we can recommend it.

348
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It's rather the motions because it's committed the whole.

349
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We will let you know what we've decided.

350
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And we really appreciate you doing that.

351
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You know, it's very ambitious.

352
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Little league is used a lot and I know what there's other use to be said that, but.

353
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I could play there.

354
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
I coach there.

355
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I play full pitch there.

356
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I've always been there.

357
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Darren and I were invited to the.

358
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Minor baseball agency.

359
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I've been held at the park.

360
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But two weeks ago.

361
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Yeah, they had a set of.

362
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That was pretty impressive.

363
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The other comment I would make is I spent probably.

364
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And I think it's really an hour and a half with the fellow that built the.

365
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The ball field in castle.

366
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And very helpful Roger.

367
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Tyranny and connected us.

368
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And his comment was that they're increasing the.

369
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The beach of capacity.

370
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Because the community has really.

371
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Come around this ball field and.

372
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And.

373
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And moments of markets playing and.

374
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Yeah.

375
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Yeah.

376
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It's great.

377
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Yeah.

378
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Well, thank you very much for your presentation.

379
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For the work that you want to do our community.

380
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That's great to do.

381
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000
That's.

382
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This is probably the big idea of our meeting now.

383
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It's the emergency management group incorporated regarding the personality.

384
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Fire service.

385
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Fire master plan.

386
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And if anybody looked at our agenda and wanted to be there.

387
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There's 277 pages there.

388
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I'll read you just on this one topic.

389
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So.

390
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I don't know.

391
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Well, that's you were welcome to come up in the front.

392
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Thank you.

393
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Thank you so much.

394
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Thank you so much, guys.

395
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Okay.

396
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Okay.

397
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I'm ready.

398
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Good afternoon.

399
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Members of council.

400
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Your worship.

401
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Thank you.

402
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
I'll be happy with the merge management group.

403
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000
I want to personally thank.

404
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Thomas Crescent.

405
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And the regional district of Central Poonie for giving us this opportunity to write

406
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the 10 year fireman.

407
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So one.

408
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My goal tonight is not to walk through all 277.

409
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I mean, you need to just appreciate it.

410
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And I hope you appreciate that.

411
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But I put down 272 in here coming up.

412
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So somewhere we gain five pages.

413
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But.

414
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What I want to do is give you an overview of this project.

415
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It was a significant approach at all. It slain off the future for the question to only fire service. I will go through some recommendations to give me examples of them, and why we came up with those recommendations.

416
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:19,000
So, I'm going to not work until I'm not going to be right.

417
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Is it?

418
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May it remind me.

419
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Is it on?

420
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Yes, convene.

421
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You have no little real light on position.

422
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We don't work over there.

423
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That means I have only a time that we need one.

424
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May it remind me.

425
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Yes.

426
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Just more, and I'll be nowhere to go.

427
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Okay.

428
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Work another day, please.

429
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:13,000
One thing I want to emphasize here, this project was a collaboration.

430
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:20,000
I personally, as a lead consultant in this project, I personally want to thank Farachief Jared Real.

431
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Regional district Farachief Tristan Fest.

432
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,000
I want to thank members of council for completing a survey and giving us feedback.

433
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000
I want to thank the public for answering the survey and giving us feedback.

434
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000
I want to thank electoral directors of the baby and see for it.

435
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
We had significant feedback for this project.

436
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
It was a big picture.

437
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000
We got the feedback.

438
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,000
It was a very collaborative talk to a lot of people on this, which allowed us to go for it.

439
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
So, what all did we do here?

440
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
So, I need to get a better angle.

441
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Just look at this one.

442
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,000
So, we went through, and this is not a step by step process, but I want to paint the picture.

443
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000
What we had to do in this project in the last seven months.

444
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000
We started in February 2025.

445
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000
We reviewed all the existing service levels.

446
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
So, what does the Crescent Valley Fire Service do?

447
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000
What don't they do?

448
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
What are they good at delivering?

449
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Where are some gaps?

450
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
We conducted a SWAT analysis.

451
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Strengths, weakness, opportunities and threats.

452
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Very common in master plans.

453
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Very common surveys.

454
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
We get a snapshot.

455
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000
And what we do in week conduct the surveys.

456
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
We're looking for common themes.

457
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,000
It's, I call it, connecting the dots.

458
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So, if I have 20 people that conclude a survey,

459
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
I don't need to identify an issue.

460
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
That's not really high on my list.

461
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,000
But if I have eight or nine people identifying an issue, that's the common themes.

462
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So, we connect the dots.

463
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,000
So, we identified a lot of that stuff through the surveys.

464
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
The FireFars participated.

465
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,000
We had the public.

466
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000
We had mayor and council.

467
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Survey feedback was very good.

468
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000
And I'll give you some examples that coming up.

469
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We reviewed the financials, operating, palpable budgets,

470
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Council reserved, best standard.

471
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And I'll explain to you why the Council Reserve is so important moving forward.

472
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000
We looked at the training program, the Crescent Valley Fire Service

473
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Springs, to his firefighters and crews.

474
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
We looked at standard operating guidelines.

475
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
That's very critical.

476
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000
The fire service makes sure that they're update, that they're current

477
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000
and they're relevant.

478
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
We looked at the equipment.

479
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
The personal protective equipment.

480
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000
We looked at the apparatus.

481
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,000
We looked at the fire station reviews.

482
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Then we went to looking at fire service contracts,

483
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000
mutated agreements, fire prevention education.

484
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
We looked at fire, where are we?

485
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Well, apparatus assessment.

486
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
So, we looked at all that apparatus.

487
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Replacement schedules.

488
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
All of that was part of this project.

489
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Then we came up with the recommendation.

490
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000
And then we provided 10-year outline.

491
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000
So, 277 pages.

492
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000
15 immediate recommendations, zero to one year.

493
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000
We have 33 short-term recommendations, one to three years.

494
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Four-minute term, four to six years, one long term.

495
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
But I want to say before moving on with these recommendations,

496
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the vast majority of these deals staff time.

497
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
There's not a lot of cost to it.

498
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It's staff time.

499
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000
It turns out to be a big work time to be honest with you.

500
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000
So, the press and belly services.

501
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000
It's what I consider a young regional fire service growing.

502
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
And it's going to have aches of pain.

503
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Again, the other fire service.

504
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000
There's a lot of good going on here.

505
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Now, one emphasized a lot of good going on.

506
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This model is enhancing public safety.

507
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:50,000
It's improving operational efficiency through cost-of-binding equipment.

508
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Allicating equipment is specific stations.

509
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000
And it's delivering tenable results.

510
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000
And those results are lowering in some costs.

511
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
The pulling resource is this, but it's really unique.

512
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
The pulling resource is more strategic deployment.

513
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
So, the chief is able to look at different stations.

514
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
How to correct that for our service to deploy.

515
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000
That's a very, very positive thing.

516
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
We analyze the call volume.

517
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
I'll go through that right away.

518
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:24,000
But, again, it's a really good picture of what I consider a young regional fire service.

519
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
So, here's a call volume.

520
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
And this is nothing new.

521
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
There's no surprise here.

522
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000
It's been in the consulting room for 11 years.

523
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,000
And I've yet to come to a part of part of where the call volume is going down.

524
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
The trend is called volume is going up all the time.

525
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000
There's just more emphasis, more expectations, place on the fire service.

526
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000
But, again, according to the chart in 2020,

527
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
three, I believe it was.

528
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Right, 2023, there was a dip.

529
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
It's just a lucky year.

530
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
So, we just call out a lucky year.

531
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
The trend is going to do three years ago.

532
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000
So, again, the last year was eight hundred and twenty four calls,

533
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
which is very busy for three of this size.

534
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Fire service, this size.

535
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,000
And the chiefs today informed me that he's expecting eight fifteen by the end of the year.

536
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000
So, we know that there's more calls.

537
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000
The call volume is not going to go down.

538
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,000
It's really important to know that moving forward.

539
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000
What we do with all of our master lines is we follow.

540
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
And I love this process.

541
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
It just made so much sense.

542
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
We follow three lines of defense from the outside martial.

543
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
The first line of defense is public fire safety, education.

544
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Educate people, educate communities.

545
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
When you do this, it reduces the risk.

546
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
We reduce the risk.

547
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000
They're called volume increases.

548
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Property loss decreases.

549
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Personal injuries decrease.

550
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Firefight injuries decrease.

551
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
So, that is the first step.

552
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Educate, educate, educate.

553
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,000
The second line of defense is follow and enforce safety standards enforcement.

554
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
For the most part, that's legislation.

555
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Follow what, legislation requires you to do.

556
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Make sure you're doing inspections.

557
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Make sure that you're upholding those codes and standards.

558
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
And that people are following them.

559
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
The last line of defense is emergency response.

560
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
So, in all this other stuff, doesn't work.

561
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Down 9-1-1 fire departments come in.

562
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:23,000
But what you want to have is a well-trained, well-supported fire department.

563
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Well, it's serving feedback.

564
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000
So, when you read the document, there's going to be a lot more of this.

565
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000
But I want to pick something else to paint the picture here.

566
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
But the public thinks.

567
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,000
So, the public appreciates the professionalism of the press and value fire service.

568
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,000
They highlighted opportunities from program particularly around public education.

569
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,000
Community visibility and tired outreach initiatives like smoke alarm programs.

570
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Now, when I read this, what I liked about it was we already noted this while we're in the project.

571
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,000
But for the public to say, hey, no, we'd like to see more XYZ.

572
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
I thought, okay, everything's lining up here.

573
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000
So, we saw this consultants, the public sees it.

574
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000
So, the gap has to be there.

575
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
It has to be there.

576
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:19,000
So, the other thing was emergency response and ongoing fire fire training and emergency stop priorities.

577
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:25,000
And I had to put that in there because when I was going through this surveys, reading this,

578
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:32,000
it's such a pleasure to have community feedback going, this is a high priority for us.

579
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Emergency response, training, and the professional fire department.

580
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:43,000
But they also underscored concerns related to staffing at broadest boss and long term sustainability.

581
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Again, not a surprise to us as consultants.

582
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
I was a former chief and the creative department figuring out fears.

583
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Former chief or park sounder for five with the pit on all the department I get it.

584
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,000
When it's cost about grass state is it's sticker shot.

585
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
There's no other way to put it.

586
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,000
So, when you're looking at the cost about varieties and delivery times,

587
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000
everyone, everybody is going, what is going on?

588
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
How do we afford this?

589
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,000
So, I saw this feedback from one, this makes sense since it's taxpayer.

590
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
This makes sense. I'm concerned.

591
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000
So, I guarantee you, and I've never talked to chief about this.

592
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
By guaranteeing he's concerned about the cost about varieties.

593
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,000
So, it was nice to see that that was on the radar from the public.

594
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
We assessed the fire station.

595
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,000
So, I'm just going to get a little sick water here.

596
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:42,000
What I want to say here is, I'm not an engineer.

597
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,000
I come with over 40 years experience, but I'm not an engineer.

598
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,000
So, when we went into these fire stations, we look.

599
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
This works, this doesn't work.

600
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Why don't you have this? Why don't you have that?

601
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
So, that was our limit of assessment.

602
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Overall, pretty good, except we'll get to one wall.

603
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
That all talked about right away.

604
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000
What standards and best practices did we follow?

605
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
We just can't make this up.

606
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
We have to follow something.

607
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000
So, the national fire protection association is what we call the industry best practice.

608
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
The standards are not law.

609
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
But they're best practices.

610
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,000
So, every piece of equipment that the chief buys has to meet an MPA standard.

611
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Otherwise, he's not buying it.

612
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
He's just not going to put his firefighters at risk.

613
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Whether it comes to helmets, turn over your rope, gloves, fire trucks, you name it.

614
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
There's a standard for it.

615
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
So, we follow to the best of our abilities.

616
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
The standards for a fire master plan.

617
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,000
MPA-1720, basically talks about volunteer fire departments.

618
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Press and belly fire service falls under that.

619
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,000
MPA-121, providing fire emergency services to the public.

620
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,000
We look at that standard and go, what is press and belly fire service doing?

621
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
What aren't they doing?

622
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000
And we compare it.

623
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000
MPA-1620, Princeton planning.

624
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Very important for inspections and getting firefighters

625
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000
orientated to commercial industrial buildings.

626
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,000
NEP-1971, protective ensembles for structure and processing.

627
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Firefighting.

628
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Turn on gears, it'll be replaced every 10 years.

629
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Could she fast a budget for that?

630
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Same thing with helmets, boots, fire holes.

631
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Fire holes have to be tested out.

632
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
So, we're looking at the standards.

633
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000
So, won't go through all of them.

634
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
But I want to provide a snapshot picture.

635
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,000
And MPA has over 300 standards for the fire service alone.

636
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,000
So, we're going to use the ones that are applicable to what we are dealing with.

637
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,000
That's this, an example of 1720.

638
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,000
So, if you look at suburban area, 500,000 people per square mile,

639
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,000
we calculate that the press and belly fire service will fall within them.

640
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,000
But this isn't communities can gel, move back and forth in this.

641
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:15,000
But for minimum, staff, three spawned, is 10 firefighters within 10 minutes, 80 percent of the time.

642
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,000
So, we look at this, we look at the data, and then we go, okay.

643
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Are you meeting us or aren't you meeting us?

644
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,000
And if the data isn't there, and so, yeah, we say, we need to start tracking this.

645
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:34,000
So, provincial legislation, legislation is not, it's legislation.

646
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
You can't say, I don't like it.

647
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
I don't want to follow it.

648
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,000
You clearly have no choice.

649
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
So, we used the fire safety act.

650
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000
The new one that was came in 1924.

651
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000
The workers compensation act, emergency disaster management act.

652
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
I think that was new last year.

653
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
2024.

654
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Thank you.

655
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Thank you.

656
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Thank you.

657
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,000
And British Columbia structure of fire fire's minimum training standards.

658
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,000
And BC fire code and BC building code.

659
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000
So, I'm going to fire safety act.

660
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
I just want to paint the picture under this new act.

661
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
What can Chief House to do?

662
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Local authority may designate and individuals of fire inspector under subsection one.

663
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Only if the individual meets up to the standards.

664
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
The others.

665
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
The bottom, you'll see fire safety regulations, fire safety risk analysis.

666
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
And basically, here's the minimum standards.

667
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Take them right off their webpage.

668
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
I just typed a word for work.

669
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,000
There's significant knowledge needed to be an inspector.

670
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,000
So, this is what the problem sets out is the minimum.

671
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
The minimum.

672
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Fire departments have to get there.

673
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
They have to get there.

674
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
So, I want to paint.

675
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,000
I want to move into some recommendations.

676
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Do my talking too fast because I know that this is the wrong.

677
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Okay.

678
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
I don't want to like I know you got a big agenda.

679
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000
So, I want to start off with zero to one year.

680
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000
But we think should be dealt with within the first year.

681
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,000
And this really is what we wrote about the West Press and Fire Station.

682
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000
As for the regional district central could need to really work on this.

683
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
And I'll tie it.

684
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000
I had conversations and meetings with staff.

685
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
They're well aware of this.

686
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:32,000
So, it's the recommendation is at the point where we need to other ensure that that service is going to continue for the commission.

687
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,000
It's one of the other.

688
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:40,000
The regional district's really enough to look at a class benefit analysis of that station.

689
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
And at the end of the day if they decide to move forward,

690
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,000
it's going to reduce liability, restore volunteer confidence, and ensure community coverage.

691
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
So right now there's a recruitment retention issue with that station.

692
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,000
If a lot of things that just aren't working, it's just not a fit, not a fit.

693
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
And we would be negligent if we did in the fight.

694
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,000
So, from our perspective, we think that some progress should be made within the next year, on what's happening with that.

695
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Short-term recommendation, Southany Crease, we recommend a second assistant fire chief within the Custom Ballet Fire Service for many reasons.

696
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:29,000
Many reasons, succession planning, leadership, a more so to be in charge of a community assessment and a fire prevention and education portfolio.

697
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:45,000
That should be their full-time job. There's enough work in there. We drill down enough, my partner, later, fortunate, that amazing job, breaking down the amount of hours required, and just on that alone, there's a full-time job.

698
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Get improved, public, and firefighter safety. So, when you have compliance, that goes back to our profiles, set one, set two, education, and compliance assignments.

699
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:11,000
So, when you have somebody do not full-time and meeting a schedule, then find the risk coming up with a spectrum schedule, then you're going to, with audit, don't improve firefighter safety and public safety.

700
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:16,000
You're going to meet compliance and you're going to add leadership capacity to the fireball.

701
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Governance. So, one of the things that we know so we're going through this is, you have regional district, you have the tone of press and there were some things that we went, there's some gaps here.

702
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:41,000
And it took a while to come up with, but we think there's a really good plan is creating a fire service advisory committee, and I'll just go next slide and I'll kind of walk you through it.

703
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:48,000
It's, it's, for lack of a better word, it's almost another layer, but this layer is necessary.

704
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:58,000
And I'll try to explain to my vast white, but, if you have this fire service advisory committee, their focus is fire, nothing else.

705
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:10,000
They get in there, this committee will collaborate, they will have the tough discussions, everything will be about what is the priority, what is the goal, what is the direction of the pressing value fire service.

706
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:28,000
The committee will have those discussions, but there's operational and funding, capital, capital reserve, whatever needs to be addressed in a fire service will go to that committee, so represent be once from the tone of presson.

707
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:36,000
This is subject matter expert, and fire from the tone of presson, and to elected officials from the spot.

708
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:49,000
From the regional district, we definitely want, like Torio's avian seat practice at the table without a doubt, and we want one subject matter expert from the regional district, so it's going to be for each side.

709
00:47:49,000 --> 00:48:00,000
The goal size will mutually agree to a chair, the fire chief care, and the regional fire chief will be neutral, they're not going to have a goal, they're going to strictly be an advisory role.

710
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:12,000
They're going to be there at the meetings, they're going to provide the input, the sole purpose of this is to collaborate and move in the same direction.

711
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:21,000
So we have two different bodies, atomic crafts and regional boarded directors do what they will take as best, but not move in the same direction, they can be seen across and both.

712
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,000
They can be seen in efficiencies experience.

713
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:33,000
This, we believe firmly, is a good move, good move to crucifixions, have everyone in the same page.

714
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:42,000
And I'll give you an example, if you're going to spend $1.2 million on a truck, everybody should know what they want on that truck and why they're getting that.

715
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Not on a press and deciding or a regional district, so there's a lot of efficiencies here.

716
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Obviously, that have been educational component to this.

717
00:48:52,000 --> 00:49:04,000
I think it's out of the spectrum, but we believe this is a positive move possible for the press and belly fire service.

718
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:11,000
The next short-term example, when I give you his well-precessment, community assessment for the press and belly fire service.

719
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,000
It's very time consuming, but if you don't know the risk that you have.

720
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:23,000
If you don't know the probability of events happening, if you don't know the consequences, how can you plan for the future?

721
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,000
How do you know how many staff need? How do you know how many specials have to be done?

722
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,000
Need to know what those risks are.

723
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000
So when you do that, they need to have the evidence.

724
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:41,000
You have the information, and next slide here is the nine profiles that a community assessment would entail.

725
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Now, this file is NFPA 1,300. This is fire-owning.

726
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,000
So whenever you do this, and we do it is, what are the impacts of the fire service?

727
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,000
So we'll look at these nine different profiles. This will take months of work, months of work to do.

728
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Most communities, high-enders, are not concerned.

729
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:09,000
If you're going to go down the path of hiring a system fire chief, put that in their profile, you'll save yourself 40,000 dollars.

730
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,000
So once this is done, now you know the risks.

731
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:22,000
You know, high-risk, medium-risk, and low-risk, then the next step is to come up with a community risk reduction plan.

732
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,000
The whole idea here is to reduce risk.

733
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Take it away, prevent things from happening.

734
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,000
So that is the recommendation in the master plan.

735
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
A short term.

736
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:45,000
One to three years, resilience, recommendation 39, and 54 is basically a updated emergency management bylaw to the new act.

737
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:55,000
And expand fire smart and gateway through public workshops, property assessments, and many fuel mitigation targets.

738
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,000
While on urban interfaces all around you.

739
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:05,000
Press and belly fire service response to a lot of while on urban interface fires.

740
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:14,000
So when we do this, the results, recommendations, approving community resilience, reducing risk and enhancing interagency coordination.

741
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,000
You're getting many parties to the table.

742
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:25,000
And when you create these bonds, these work and relationships, it makes an instant goal a lot smoother.

743
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
That's recommendation.

744
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
One to three is on training.

745
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,000
You have to training facilities.

746
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,000
So we look at the training facility.

747
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,000
What can that and can it do?

748
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,000
So the great opportunity here to expand on the training.

749
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,000
And I put in here. Well, we put in here is offer to the RDC to a little part of it.

750
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
So the regional training facility.

751
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,000
So that may or may not work for the RDC. I don't know.

752
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,000
But a little part of it may embrace it.

753
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:59,000
And the reason I put this in the recommendation is some revenue can come from this.

754
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,000
But I don't want to stand in front of council and say, hey, this is a goal.

755
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
We're going to bring in all the revenue you need.

756
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000
That's not how it works.

757
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,000
But you can get some revenue from this new lines of facility when press and values in isn't it.

758
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
There's not potential.

759
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
There's potential to expand more.

760
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,000
So we believe that this is a good recommendation.

761
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,000
It took some to look at the next one to three years.

762
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000
And again, there's not a lot of costs with this.

763
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:31,000
This is really about being part of the work plan and having the chief and his team look at it and see if this is feasible.

764
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,000
We believe it is long term seven to ten years.

765
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,000
This one is really easy.

766
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,000
And if I have my way, I'd say listen.

767
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Seven to ten, seven to minimum.

768
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000
At that year five, you go, holy cow, our call,

769
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,000
William is going to be the roof.

770
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000
We need to do this.

771
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,000
And basically what we're recommending is do complete evaluation of your spawns data.

772
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,000
Look at your response data.

773
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Look at the call of time.

774
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Look at how many firefighters are coming.

775
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Look at your station locations.

776
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Maybe seven years down the roll.

777
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
They need to be moved through.

778
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,000
When you analyze all this, you're going to know exactly what is coming from which station.

779
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,000
Now the chief will quit an equipment.

780
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Make it more efficient.

781
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Look at the call, volume, and email say, hey, we have so many calls right now.

782
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,000
I need two more.

783
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
I need two full-time staff.

784
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Maybe I need four.

785
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,000
I don't know.

786
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,000
But the only way you can do this is look at the data.

787
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000
And that's why we say seven to ten years.

788
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
And the data may say, you need more staff.

789
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
You may need another station.

790
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Or you may need to close one.

791
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
By doing this and having the data,

792
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,000
improves transparency.

793
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,000
The numbers can't lie.

794
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
We can't lie.

795
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:59,000
So, proof transparency, it provides long-term planning for the organization.

796
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Imposing.

797
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
And I apologize if I talked to you for us.

798
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000
But I really was aware of the size of your agenda,

799
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,000
so I didn't want to waste a lot of your time.

800
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,000
It sets of direction.

801
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,000
It's a ten-year plan.

802
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000
It's a significant plan.

803
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,000
A lot of time.

804
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,000
And effort from it.

805
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Everybody's part went into this plan.

806
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:27,000
And we believe it's a good plan to move the press and value fire service forward.

807
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
On the bottom is my partner.

808
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,000
I had it for Chase.

809
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Contact info.

810
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000
It's my contact info.

811
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,000
If at any time, you have a question regarding this.

812
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Please feel free to email me.

813
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
We have to answer it.

814
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
And I'm open to any questions right now.

815
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Anybody may have.

816
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Any questions?

817
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Council.

818
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Council.

819
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Just thinking of connections to community colleges.

820
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,000
Psycharic.

821
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
College of The Rockies and that kind of thing.

822
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
When you were talking about, it just.

823
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,000
For me, I think that hadn't.

824
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Now some just answered a new phase with their training grounds.

825
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,000
I don't know.

826
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,000
It's one of that.

827
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000
It's only a couple weeks old.

828
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,000
I see a mentioned it.

829
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,760
But it was from Castlegar and self- Flash

830
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,000
College Pay initiated.

831
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,500
That development.

832
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,000
But it seems like a fairly important.

833
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:29,000
important component of all of this is on relationship with the colleges. I'm going to ask

834
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,000
it chief to step in here because I believe you had training with the culture of Rockies.

835
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Yep. So there's definitely that relationship, their council is well aware of that.

836
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:45,000
And, you know, those opportunities definitely need to be explored. There's

837
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:55,000
departments that may not have maybe better service or have better access to

838
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:03,000
our regional facility, as opposed to, you know, using something in Nelson.

839
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:09,000
And so, you know, those are some of the opportunities that we want to try to leverage in

840
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,000
this.

841
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Thanks, chief.

842
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Another question.

843
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Teddy, we're all letting you guess, you know, let appreciate the work that you put into this.

844
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
I'm sorry, I'll be going forward today.

845
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,000
We don't even have to leverage this, but I think it's a little bit complicated.

846
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Okay, thank you very much. I appreciate your time and let me come here and

847
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,000
present this and then have a good video.

848
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Thank you.

849
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Thank you.

850
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Thank you.

851
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,000
We'll be forward.

852
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,000
We'll be forward.

853
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,000
We'll be forward.

854
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,000
We'll be forward.

855
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Thank you.

856
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,000
I'll feel constitute received and the conferreder that, I'm not sure if we can

857
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,000
add to that at this point.

858
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,000
We have very request there to us.

859
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,000
And I guess we would pursue fulfilling those requests that bring that back to

860
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000
a later meaning as they go, we could do.

861
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:28,000
And you had suggested that maybe there needs to be a conversation with the record program,

862
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,000
and I don't know if that's something we need to have more information on before we.

863
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,000
But that can be included in there somehow.

864
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:43,000
That we refer it to the records center for their input on the request as well.

865
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Sorry, the version of it used to that is how it is referred to style.

866
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Okay.

867
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Yeah, that one probably is all the whole problems.

868
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,000
The recommendation and then it's received them and be referred to staff.

869
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,000
So everybody's good with that.

870
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Yeah.

871
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Right.

872
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:05,000
And secondly, then that the presentation by Mr. Redless Carplot, the emergency management group,

873
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000
regarding President Valley Fire Service Fire Master Plan,

874
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,000
and the report title of President Valley Service Master Plan,

875
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:19,000
the data of total 14 from the director of protective services,

876
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,000
BVC.

877
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,000
So we have all received that and sure there's more to come on.

878
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,000
I don't know about that information.

879
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,000
So we'll move on then to the Council direction request from the director of Community Service

880
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,000
and regarding a public space booking program.

881
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,000
Your municipal services and coordinator and planner,

882
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,000
you'll appreciate the representatives.

883
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Thank you.

884
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Thank you, your workshop.

885
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,000
This is great.

886
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,000
My presentation is going to look so short.

887
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Thank you.

888
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,000
All right.

889
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,000
So thank you.

890
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:03,000
And today I will be presenting an overview of public space booking program,

891
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,000
including all the associated bylaws and policy amendments.

892
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,000
This really follows Council's direction from last year to improve the efficiency,

893
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,000
parity and transparency around our public space approvals,

894
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
as well as to account for additional costs.

895
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,000
They're not going to be counted for us.

896
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:26,000
There's very kids and direct a lot of those booking requests to staff.

897
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:33,000
So in 2014, Council asked staff to delegate more park booking staff and specifically allow

898
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,000
for staff to approve park bookings that involve liquor service.

899
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,000
So at that time, staff reviewed the existing policies and bylaws and identified that there were

900
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:48,000
13 documents needing updates as any changes were really affected another one.

901
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:54,000
So the proposed bylaw policy changes and to address some of those inconsistencies,

902
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,000
such as definitions, procedures and enforcement across all the existing bylaws.

903
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,000
The existing bylaws.

904
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,720
Policies. So to do this, staff are proposing some new bylaws and mending bylaws, various policy changes, including the repeal of several

905
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:17,040
policies as much of those have been kind of transferred over into the bylaws. So we're a goal really with this project was to create a comprehensive and consistent

906
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:26,360
public space booking broker. So getting into the mean event, I'm going to try and present these bylaws to capture how the effects are

907
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:32,600
cascading. I'll pause after each one for questions, but some of them might be answered as we move on to the next one.

908
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:40,760
So first is the Park Stereils and Public Spaces bylaws. So this is a complete rewrite of our current parks bylaw.

909
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Currently, that bylaw contains kind of general rules around public spaces and specific rules for some of our parks for

910
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:57,960
booking procedures. Many of the other booking procedures for parks are contained within our parks at public spaces, booking policy.

911
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:05,960
And the structure kind of led to some inconsistencies around enforcement and application on both the policy and the bylaw.

912
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:15,720
So to resolve that, that's why we decided to opt for the the rewrite scenario. So some of the key changes in this rewrite.

913
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:26,760
This bylaw now really focuses on just public space rules and regulations as opposed to procedural information, all that procedural information.

914
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:36,520
But here, public spaces has been moved over to a new events bylaw. It helps to clearly identify it on and off leash dog parks as well as expand some of the

915
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:57,240
Expans the scope of our only drug parks clearly regulates barbeque use in those areas. It has extended park hours from 6am to 11pm originally at was 7am to 10pm. This helps to really allow for some of our bookings where people are asking for additional time for set up and take down.

916
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:07,320
As you'll see in the parks one that noise is and the booking is still kind of contained within that 7 to 10, but this is just to allow them in there to set up and take down.

917
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:25,320
They've also helped to clarify the empowerment removal of public space items left in public space. So our bylaw references or traffic regulation bylaw, which has to do with the empowerment on our rowways, but it kind of leaves out that piece in our parks.

918
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:43,160
So that leads me to the next piece, we're keeping that reference to our traffic regulations bylaw, but we've expanded that scope to include our public spaces. So the process has kind of stayed the same, but now there's just that addition of public spaces and then.

919
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:58,160
Okay, so on to the mean of the project which really be events bylaw, this is a new bylaw for us. It helps to kind of encompass many of our policies, including like our street book and policy public space booking policy.

920
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:14,160
Sidewalk use policy, our purf bylaw and we have a special event bylaw as well. So this helps to kind of bring all those things together and to one bylaw and remove kind of the shuffling between policies and bylaws to get those events approved.

921
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:30,160
So some of the key highlights of that are really helps to simplify and consolidate our booking procedures. It significantly reduces the amount going to counsel some most of these can generally be a proof by staff except for large bookings and private.

922
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Outdoor public space bookings. It helps to clearly identify when other departments need to be brought into that approval process such as infrastructure services or emergency services.

923
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:53,160
It also has to introduce some clear rules for liquor, food, trucks, firepets, dogs, and events, parades and safety procedures.

924
01:03:53,160 --> 01:04:06,160
And it introduces a council of appeal process for bookings that are denied by staff. So if staff chooses on whatever ground that they don't want to proceed with that booking that has an opportunity to come to you.

925
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,160
And ask for clarity on that and approval possible.

926
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:24,160
So moving on to our business license amendment. So this really had focused around our commercial vendors. We have commercial vendors out and about and we also have them at our events.

927
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:35,160
So right now they're mostly regulated through policy and according to the policy commercial vendors have to obtain a permit in addition to their business license before they operate.

928
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:46,160
The maximum amount of time that these permits are valid for is six months. This is led to some confusion. Not everyone picking out their pending permit or doing them.

929
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:52,160
Which, yeah, has been a little bit of a challenge for enforcement and just education around that.

930
01:04:52,160 --> 01:05:06,160
So to resolve some of those challenges we are proposing, including the commercial bending policy kind of rules and regulations into our business by license by law that kind of seemed like the best fit at that time.

931
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:21,160
So how it's organized is that vendors will have for usual receive their commercial business license. They're no longer they no longer have to disclose every single little location that they'll be in.

932
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:32,160
Which it was kind of the use of the permit we could keep track where they were, but you know, we're not bringing that permits. We don't really see that anyway. And what it's done is.

933
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:39,160
So it's a little bit more free to be out in the public spaces other than some of our parks which have separated out.

934
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:56,160
Abending areas for food trucks and your little stand mobile vendors. So for the most part, your food trucks are in areas that don't just wrap, you know, the life of the park, but if you have a little kid selling ice cream next in playground, then that gives them that option.

935
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:12,160
So that's the most of the programs. The rest is kind of pieces that just fit into this program around fees delegation authority. Do we have any questions at this time about kind of the media program?

936
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:25,160
No, okay. So delegation authority that's a while. We had to manage this to really shift it around for staff to handle most of those approvals. It also is going to take away.

937
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:33,160
We have specific approval for commercial bending because that's going to fall into our business license approval process. So it's captured there anyway.

938
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:59,160
Fees and charges. So this, how to significant or we're all how we do it at this point is we have different fees depending on what public space you're booking in, which is a little bit challenging. So this fee structure really helps to simplify what that is, you know, if you're a large booking or a general booking or whatever, just does it based on your booking size.

939
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:11,160
Because originally, like how it's written now, we tried to capture some of those costs in your booking fee around barricades for some additional costs, but it was really hard to accurately reflect that.

940
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:40,160
And then when you need it, those services in another part, we didn't have a way to capture those costs. So those costs have been separated out and have us like if you need their cases kind of like a rental fee for lack of better words, you charge for that. So we can account for staff time to place those out and then there's also an amendment there for an empowerment and empowerment fee for items found at public spaces where we didn't have a previous fee for that.

941
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:58,160
And then we also of course updated our business license category previously we had in our mobile vendors, we specifically excluded commercial vendors from that because they had to pay for a separate permit to operate.

942
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:05,160
But now we've just included them in the mobile to remove that commercial permanent, or sorry commercial then you can.

943
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:16,160
Our noise control by law, we amended that line to allow for noise that reasonably emanates from a booking.

944
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:23,160
Right now, it only specifically addresses millennium park and we know there would be a Brookings in parts of our other public spaces.

945
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:34,160
And then the by-law notice of enforcement, relatively unacciding part, it just helps to capture all of those things where we could have by-law notice of enforcement and the.

946
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,160
It's not the fine attached those things.

947
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,160
So that's basically it.

948
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,160
I'm going to wrap section so basically from here.

949
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:54,160
Depending, either with amendments or as presented staff will bring forward across for decision with the.

950
01:08:55,160 --> 01:09:05,160
By-law's prepare for reading we do require to have public notice for the business license by-law so we'll just be grouping the by-law's kind of as a package moving forward.

951
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,160
And finally any policy.

952
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,160
I'm.

953
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:20,160
Brookings or changes will be brought for it for council consideration at the time of adoptions just to ensure that there's no gaps in our current service.

954
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,160
I'm comfortable.

955
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,160
When I wasn't able to.

956
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,160
What we had this comprehensive look.

957
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:37,160
By-law compliance or monitoring is an expensive process potentially if you have to bring somebody out on overtime which doesn't have.

958
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:42,160
There's a lot of these things do run till the week small hours or as they have.

959
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:48,160
New stars or something like that that may it may take somebody out of the normal Monday to Friday.

960
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:54,160
Or by-law officer has that been anticipated is there any way to.

961
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,160
Oh, well, this this particular event could get.

962
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:01,160
And really it's something being.

963
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:08,160
Apply or sub-contractor something like that or somebody designated to basically make sure that things don't get out of hand.

964
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:14,160
Is finding out about it five days later isn't really going to help when all we've got is complaints out of fact.

965
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,160
So yeah, good question.

966
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:26,160
It hasn't been accounted for in this process for actually a firm wrong, but I believe we're going through separate process to kind of account for.

967
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,160
Our.

968
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,160
I law enforcement hours.

969
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Let's talk.

970
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,160
Thank you.

971
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,160
Any further questions.

972
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,160
You're now.

973
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:44,160
We'll go with the recommendation that that Council received the October 14, 2025 Council direction.

974
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,160
Repressed title of.

975
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,160
Public space booking program for information.

976
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:57,160
That Council direct staff to present the following by laws for council consideration and an upcoming council meeting.

977
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:03,160
The business license amendment by law number 2825 events.

978
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,160
By law number 2925.

979
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:12,160
Arts trails of the spaces by law number 203025.

980
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,160
The question of authority amendment by law number two zero three one 25.

981
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,160
No, it's control amendment by law number two zero three two twenty twenty five.

982
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,160
By law.

983
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,160
Notice seven forcement.

984
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,160
Amendment by law number two zero three three twenty twenty five.

985
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,160
Fees and charges amendment by law number two zero three five twenty twenty twenty five.

986
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:39,160
And traffic regulations amendment by law and the two zero four zero twenty twenty five.

987
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,160
Okay.

988
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,160
Thank you.

989
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,160
Thank you.

990
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,160
Thank you.

991
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,160
Thank you very much.

992
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,160
Who we are now.

993
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,160
My Council direction.

994
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,160
Repressed from the hand of your.

995
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,160
Vingitaries.

996
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,160
We've already speed them.

997
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,160
We've actually.

998
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,160
We're.

999
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,160
Do you invite us.

1000
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,160
Change.

1001
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,160
And.

1002
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,160
Thank you.

1003
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,160
Motion Council.

1004
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,160
So this report today.

1005
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,160
Response to some public concerns about speeding.

1006
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Pedestrian.

1007
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,160
Same thing.

1008
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:21,160
Crest.

1009
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,160
Of line.

1010
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,160
Some.

1011
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,160
We're implementing reduced.

1012
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,160
Evaluate some associated costs and recommends a phased approach.

1013
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,160
That hopefully aligns with strategic.

1014
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:35,160
Council strategic goals and the pending future legislation.

1015
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:36,160
Public.

1016
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,160
Public candidates have been received.

1017
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,160
They've totally flagged.

1018
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:45,160
Concerned with safety around park schools and residential areas.

1019
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:51,160
They also flagged some community wide speed reduction of helmets that are being.

1020
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,160
experienced in some of their communities.

1021
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,160
Notability.

1022
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,160
For a.

1023
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,160
And some of the lower hand than not.

1024
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,160
What that when.

1025
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,280
across the multimodal transportation plan recommended reducing speed limits to 30 kilometer

1026
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:12,800
hours in key areas. I referenced map 6 in the report. That was sort of the key areas that they

1027
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:20,480
looked at. That map was sort of generated based on community feedback that we had through the open houses

1028
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:25,760
that identified corridors that community felt were candidates for reduced speed limit.

1029
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,400
Well, that the number of people that were walking or cycling within those corridors as opposed to just

1030
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:40,480
be a co-traffic. So it was sort of a planned coach to a 30 kilometer speed limit. Also,

1031
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,880
just give you some background information. The traffic analyzers that we use in the community

1032
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:53,440
were at 64 locations for a five year period between my 20 and 2025. It's sort of indicated

1033
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:57,680
and those are residential areas. It kind of indicated that the average speed and

1034
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:04,800
crest is about 28 kilometers an hour. 80 per cent dollars or 41 kilometers an hour. And that

1035
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:10,880
compliance with speed limits is about 87 per cent. Reading between the lines, that is that

1036
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:18,000
percentile at 31. And roughly 13 per cent non-compliant would sort of indicate that the vast majority

1037
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:24,560
are traveling 40 pounders an hour. But everybody else is kind of at 50 year above. So I'm not saying

1038
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:30,240
there aren't any areas that have concerns with speed. But for the most part community wide,

1039
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:35,760
speed is fairly reasonable with the community. The radar board placement is also based on

1040
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:44,080
customer complaints. So we typically go to areas with the boards that people already feel there is a

1041
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:49,200
speeding issue. So we're seeing that the speeding isn't as bad as they think it is. But we're

1042
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:55,120
also targeting those areas. So, you know, if we did it across the board, we may see a reduction in

1043
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,760
speeds to sort of balance out. Because I'm sure there's a lot of barriers for blocking cleaning. That's

1044
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:17,000
Speeds are quite a bit lower than we're seeing in that concern here. So, anyways, that's a little bit about the background. Some of the key issues, there are some geostics, old limits like Northwest Boulevard in Ericsson road that were identified in the public concerns that are not under town jurisdiction.

1045
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:23,000
So, I haven't factored those into the report. Those would have to be brought up with the province.

1046
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:33,000
And then it looks like they're good movement things like that. So, but I haven't addressed those in this report because they are not they don't fall under our authority.

1047
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:45,000
Current legislation, the Mortar Vehicle Act identifies that the default speed limit within municipalities is it decommers in our report by Boston.

1048
01:15:45,000 --> 01:16:01,000
The Union of BC municipalities has requested, I believe at least three times of the last five years, that the province changed the Mortar Vehicle Act to allow a blanket speed limits to be changed by municipalities at their limits.

1049
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:13,000
And that legislation is that sign that you see on the boundary of as you were pulling into this town that says 50 kilometers an hour unless otherwise posted it.

1050
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:29,000
You see them as asked for that to be changed to 30 kilometers an hour or 40 because without that legislation every road that's not 50 kilometers an hour has to be signed both directions in each block and to be able to enforce.

1051
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:46,000
We've got a lot of schools owns of playgrounds and those are signed as such for that legislation. We have stemmed that blanket changed to the municipality. All of a sudden there's a significant impact on the number of signage that we have to have a place to be able to enforce those speeds.

1052
01:16:46,000 --> 01:17:11,000
So also, and it was really nice to see it and the two letters that we received that council received, they indicated that signage is not a solution that traffic calming has to be considered and I agree with that 100% you can't just slap up sides and expect people to follow signs, especially if you have wide roads like hillside or something like that where you've got a 14 meter wide road.

1053
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:17,000
No parking and people, you could drive 80 paid down that road and build comfortable.

1054
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:28,000
So you have to traffic calm those streets, not all of them, but some of them to be able to make it different drivers to feel uncomfortable traveling at anything above the quotient speed limit.

1055
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:36,000
And at 30 kilometers an hour that means narrowing that carriage way to about six and a half meters of width or two lengths of traffic.

1056
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:54,000
So, you know, community wide there is the fairly significant costs we're looking at for residential areas, we're looking at about 550 signs 300,000 dollars plus about 34 kilometers of roads that would see that speed limit.

1057
01:17:54,500 --> 01:18:04,000
Now, if you tack on the traffic calming on top of that, that could be another 250, 400,000 dollars to traffic calm those neighborhoods and that gets very expensive.

1058
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,000
And that is just what we would have to do unless the legislation changes.

1059
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:19,000
Now, pretty optimistic that that legislation will change at some point just because of the number of municipalities that concern about it.

1060
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:26,000
And what's happening in some of these other pilots, I think the province will come around I just don't know when.

1061
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:37,000
So, there is a bit of a phased approach that sort of follows the recommendations come up with a contrasting plan, transportation plan that looked at about a block area.

1062
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:46,000
You know, we could recign that for around 71,000 dollars, you know, that doesn't include the traffic calming features that might be triggered.

1063
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:51,000
I'm in 10 consequences of lowering that speed, we might have to go and then do that traffic calming.

1064
01:18:51,000 --> 01:19:01,000
So, there is that upper side, you know, we could have to do these in a number of years to sort of deal with pitchpoints that we create with them those residential roads.

1065
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:11,000
But, you know, the recommendation I'm looking at is doing a phased approach and budgeting in the 2026 budget year for signage placement on both 55 blocks.

1066
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:17,000
I'm differing community-wide signage until the legislation is in place to sort of support that.

1067
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:22,000
But then still prioritized traffic calming if it's needed on some of those roads that were targeted.

1068
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:29,000
The benefits of the phased approaches, you know, improve safety for pedestrians and cyclists, it's cost effective.

1069
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:40,000
There to the whole blanket approach, it aligns with council strategic plans, connectivity, safety and environmental stewardship, do some greenhouse gas emissions.

1070
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,000
I was going to slip that in there.

1071
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:47,000
And it may be a response to some public concerns we have on some of those.

1072
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:58,000
The older alternatives that were considered were, you know, all residential neighborhoods, you know, looking at $300,000 per size plus traffic calming could push that type of approach.

1073
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:03,000
Upwards of, you know, $750, $800,000 over a period of time.

1074
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:08,000
And then the other alternative is, do nothing and just wait for the legislation to sort of follow.

1075
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:15,000
So that sort of, the report in a really quick summary.

1076
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:20,000
If anybody has any questions, I can specifically address something that serves.

1077
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,000
Yeah, I'm just curious when you talk about traffic calming measures.

1078
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000
We're looking mostly at speed bumps.

1079
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:34,000
But do you ever add additional controlled intersections with four waste stop signs?

1080
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,000
And because I think that could be cheaper than.

1081
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,000
So yeah, traffic calming speed bumps.

1082
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:46,000
We see those, there are a lot of other, a lot of other things that we can use.

1083
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:52,000
And they use narrowing the carriageways bump boats at intersections to create physical pinch points.

1084
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:58,000
You know, you know, create chains in the road where you have traffic moving along and then you shift it.

1085
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,000
From parking a one side to parking the other and you sort of move the traffic.

1086
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,000
So it doesn't create a linear line.

1087
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:11,000
Or we stop controlled intersections are not necessarily a good.

1088
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,000
I think they can be in, they can be implemented.

1089
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:23,000
But for a four-way stop sign to really work well, you have to have the same amount of traffic up all lakes.

1090
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,000
Right.

1091
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:30,000
If you look at 16th Avenue and Hillside for example, 90% of the traffic is on 16th Avenue.

1092
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,000
10% is on Hillside.

1093
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:38,000
So what happens is people after using that intersection become ingrained that I stop on 16th Avenue.

1094
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:46,000
I never cease at any one of my laughter when I write because it's such a low volume cross traffic that they blow through the stops and it's.

1095
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:54,000
So unless you have a quite an equal balance on all four lakes that if you couple to a stop and there's somebody else there.

1096
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,000
You know, when you and you've perceived that way unless you have that environment.

1097
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:04,000
Or we stop signs are not necessarily recommended as traffic calming pictures.

1098
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,000
You know, sort of bold with a two-part question.

1099
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:16,000
But then just to lead up to that, I should say that I'm in favor of waiting until the province changes the legislation personally.

1100
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,000
Anything else is on a waste of taxpayers money.

1101
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:29,000
The reason for that is that we don't have any evidence that there is a speeding problem beyond the perception is that the radar.

1102
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:41,000
But you the radar point that you've done already already tells us that we drive like we're in the funeral procession around here and bigger cities and I just go.

1103
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:46,000
But the point is that what.

1104
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:57,000
What problem that is documented are we trying to fix on our own when in fact if the provincial legislation comes in there's almost no cops to implement it.

1105
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,000
And then you just throw your hands up and go what we're going to be like every other town rate.

1106
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,000
And I'm not much to complain about the phase approach I get it.

1107
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,000
But I'm just saying that that could be irrelevant.

1108
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:22,000
If in fact it's a given the other the final part to this is that what problem is going to solve within the boundaries of the town that will just take will just get down on how we 21 and blast off at 100 or.

1109
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:31,000
Anywhere in Erickson or blister or anywhere else which is basically going to take up that some semi pent up frustration with ace.

1110
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:36,000
Have there been any studies on injuries from speeding vehicles.

1111
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,000
Any accidents like in other words, can we document.

1112
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:51,000
The parameters of the problem we're trying to solve rather than perception is you said perception is there people are speeding but in many cases they're not even that they're not going over 30.

1113
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:57,000
So I guess I'm I'm more of a measurable type.

1114
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,000
I have to respect all this money.

1115
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,000
What problems are we actually correct.

1116
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,000
You're you're.

1117
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,000
Bring up the speeds.

1118
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,000
We do not have a speed ofitions.

1119
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,000
If you consider us being those 50 corners.

1120
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,000
If you think that 50 kilometers hours too fast.

1121
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,000
For for a state and community.

1122
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,000
Well, then you will the argument starts to come into.

1123
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,000
The data is sort of showing that.

1124
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,000
40 kilometers an hour.

1125
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,000
Is that fairly reasonable speed.

1126
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,000
There are a lot of studies out there in that show.

1127
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,000
You know when they we reference those in.

1128
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,000
You know we in in the letters of concern that we're received.

1129
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,000
There are lots of studies that show how in injury severity of reduced significantly.

1130
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,000
As the speed drops.

1131
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,000
So you know the studies are there.

1132
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:54,000
You know as a community and the strategic plan also talks about council's goals for connective and getting more people walking.

1133
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,000
Making people feel more comfortable and safe on the roads.

1134
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:03,000
So you know 50 kilometers an hour in a residential area where the minority of residential streets.

1135
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,000
This probably way too fast.

1136
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,000
Now the way our grid system and kind of call the sacks and everything are set up.

1137
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,000
In a residential area.

1138
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000
In most residential areas.

1139
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,000
It's almost impossible to try and figure to call.

1140
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,000
So.

1141
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,000
So people.

1142
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,000
So so a signage reduction really makes a lot of sense.

1143
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,000
What's the magic number?

1144
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,000
Very horrible.

1145
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:28,000
I kind of hate for it because you know you can put signs up and you don't throw the vast majority.

1146
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,000
It's issue.

1147
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,000
So traffic calming features might be at a bare minimum to say something.

1148
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:39,000
It gives people the sense that the community is doing something and they feel safe for on the roads.

1149
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,000
And.

1150
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,000
You know that that that wasn't being an opportunity.

1151
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,000
So.

1152
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,000
But but yeah that's that's you know I think that's future.

1153
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,000
I think political.

1154
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,000
Visualization has a lot to deal with it.

1155
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,000
You talk about what a crescent does something.

1156
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,000
But what happens in order to or can.

1157
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:02,000
And that is that that consistency of legislation across the community.

1158
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,000
And I think that is you know probably the biggest thing.

1159
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,000
You know and we could always run into trouble.

1160
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:13,000
We were to put 55 signs up on on candidate roads.

1161
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,000
People get confused.

1162
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,000
What is the speed limit?

1163
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,000
Is it 50 or is it 30?

1164
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:23,000
You know signage every block all directions is critical to that.

1165
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,000
So.

1166
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:29,000
You know we're sort of that there are some concerns without a legislation change for sure.

1167
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:36,000
If the legislation does change it it's not no cost to us because now all those rooms we want to maintain a 50.

1168
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,000
So you're basically pushing.

1169
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,000
Look at the signs.

1170
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,000
So when is not coming at no cost there are there are implications.

1171
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,000
But we can manage it.

1172
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,000
I just.

1173
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,000
I sort of feet around the bush.

1174
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,000
I hope I answered.

1175
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,000
And yeah I just not waiting for that legislation to be the most.

1176
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,000
Physically responsible but I understand all of the other.

1177
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,000
A radical risks.

1178
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,000
So.

1179
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:05,000
But you know I personally would be I think a lot of people would support 40 and I know that was something that came up.

1180
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:12,000
Really a poetry that people could get their heads around that but they they just couldn't go.

1181
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,000
Cars just flat don't want to go.

1182
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,000
30 kilometers now.

1183
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,000
I think evidently.

1184
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,000
The residential.

1185
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,000
It's much easier not for me to adjust to it.

1186
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:29,000
Is the issue but we are actually taking people for speeding at this point.

1187
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,000
I think that's a question I think.

1188
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,000
You know I think that's a question.

1189
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,000
Does hear same thing.

1190
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:40,600
And I know I have heard experience with our CMP members trying to issue tickets on summer

1191
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,640
or 30 kilometer rows and not issuing because they didn't feel the signage was enough

1192
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,040
or should force something.

1193
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,840
So, you know, I think in order to be able to do something else that you have to have a very

1194
01:27:51,840 --> 01:28:01,000
robust signage policy or a federal and place where I'm provincial, you know, I think even

1195
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:06,880
with the 30K rows that we probably could clean up a little bit and get some better signage

1196
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:07,880
out there.

1197
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,520
To make it easier, you don't force it, you get to enforce it and it's what we want to do.

1198
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,520
It's comfortable.

1199
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:22,400
Is there any opportunity for state cameras have ever looked into cost of those?

1200
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:29,040
I have a e-bombs and they might have a cost of prohibited but, you know, if there is only specific

1201
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,200
problem areas.

1202
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,600
And I was in Grand Prairie, we installed a number of red light and speed cameras on the

1203
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,600
lights.

1204
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:39,280
It was a million dollar project and a penny for looking at the very 5 or 4 locations.

1205
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,280
They don't come to cheap.

1206
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:41,280
No.

1207
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:46,240
They, you know, and then you still have to have, you know, people reviewing the data issuing tickets and

1208
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:52,440
things like that and, you know, the simplest place to put them is on the corridors with red lights

1209
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:53,840
where you're how high there's speed.

1210
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,960
Anyway, it's because it's a racial highway network, yep, something I haven't even looked

1211
01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,960
up.

1212
01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:00,960
Okay.

1213
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:01,960
Okay.

1214
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:02,960
Okay.

1215
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:07,920
It's not hearing any further questions, we'll go with the recommendation that Council adopt a phase

1216
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:14,440
approach toward 30 kilometers an hour residential area of speed zones, beginning with the implementation

1217
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:20,440
of the map six recommendations from the Preston multi-modal transportation plan as a starting

1218
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:25,720
point for community speed limit reductions that Council direct staff to prepare a budget

1219
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:33,400
sheet for the 2026 budget process for this approach in the amount of $71,500 that Council

1220
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:38,920
deferred full community wide science installation until legislative changes permit a blanket

1221
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:45,400
approach reducing costs and improving consistency and further that traffic calming measures

1222
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:51,640
be prioritized on higher risk streets to support speed reduction and improve safety regardless

1223
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:52,640
of sign and strategy.

1224
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:53,920
We'll go with that.

1225
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,000
Question 40 kilometers, so the base approach towards 30. Was that going to say, here's your one.

1226
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:15,000
Well, at this point, all we're asking for is to bring it back to council for consideration during budget process.

1227
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:21,000
Okay, thank you. We've been having a discussion.

1228
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,000
I'm good with that, and we can have the alarm for a conversation.

1229
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:29,000
Okay, if this is going to come back to us with a feeling of appreciation this way, just kind of we want.

1230
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:35,000
The underlying fear of council involvement is to get to a speeding ticket on a Z-bike if we were to give you the feeling of that.

1231
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:40,000
You know, I could walk faster with that.

1232
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:52,000
So that's the council direction request from the manager of engineering regarding color street lift station gravity option direction to apply for strategic priorities fund grant funding.

1233
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,000
Okay, thank you again.

1234
01:30:54,000 --> 01:31:01,000
Back in August council provided recommendations that I was able to apply for the committee.

1235
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,000
Where is the future priority fund for the policy.

1236
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,000
Leptation of operating.

1237
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:10,000
I received an email a couple of weeks ago from the grant people.

1238
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:16,000
The grant coordinator basically said, you know what, as part of the screening process, we.

1239
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:27,000
We recognize some deficiencies and would like you to consider strengthening the resolution to facilitate to help move through the the process of the grant review.

1240
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,000
So this memo talks about the two additions.

1241
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:42,000
I'm ending that original August resolution to include that council commits to providing overall grant management for the lift station project and to also.

1242
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:53,000
To indicate that you guys are aware that if the budget exceeds the grant application that we are on the hook for that and that you would support any.

1243
01:31:53,000 --> 01:32:01,000
Covering cost over runs if that if that ever occurs to the execution project.

1244
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,000
You're almost there just the.

1245
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,000
I asked this question before what if we don't get the full grant.

1246
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:14,000
Okay, this is working on the basis of if they give us the program at the cost of what if we don't get the full grant.

1247
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,000
Are we still on the hook for the this the balance of the.

1248
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:27,000
Well, the the application I submitted was for 100% but so I believe they would either prove it 100% down and then we have that.

1249
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,000
So that that is my belief right now.

1250
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:31,000
Okay.

1251
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:42,000
And I'm just curious if you submitted fully for the cost of equipment and time.

1252
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,000
And that's the solution.

1253
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:56,000
What type of overages or overruns could we anticipate seeing or what has them in anticipated that we potentially need to cover it outside of the granting dollars.

1254
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,000
So the grant application.

1255
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,000
Wanted.

1256
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:03,000
But cost estimate with about a 25% contingency.

1257
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:12,000
So these the budget that we applied for the 1.6 million dollars to 5 million dollars included a 25% contingency put house over runs.

1258
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:17,000
Those over runs could be inflationary and nature could be.

1259
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:26,000
You know, we encounter ground conditions that are much more difficult to to construct it, you know, could be any number of.

1260
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,000
You know, things like that. So what their.

1261
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:40,000
The provinces has acknowledged that there are cost over runs, but they want to cap to 25% what they're looking for is anything that might exceed that 25% over our budget.

1262
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,000
And as it has been something that helps.

1263
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:55,000
With the grant application, they did ask the question if their hard cost over runs, what components of the projects could be scaled back or reduced in order to bring it in there.

1264
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:01,000
And there was a number of those that could be exercised before you're actually hit with cost over.

1265
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,000
So there there are opportunities for us to turn back the project.

1266
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:12,000
And maybe not seed and topsoil things like that, you know, to save some money, reduction of amount of the events and things like that.

1267
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,000
So there are some things that we can look at.

1268
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,000
Before you have staff.

1269
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,000
That's what I do much.

1270
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,000
Just wondering.

1271
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:33,000
Whoever has the answer to this question is, if let's say we do have the cost over runs, are can we use the BC ground communities fund towards towards those.

1272
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:42,000
This grant is stackable, so we can apply other grants that we may get to not chart to meet our contribution.

1273
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,000
So thank you.

1274
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,000
Yeah, I'll read that lengthy recommendation.

1275
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,000
Yeah.

1276
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,000
On our long.

1277
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,000
The council received the council direction requested.

1278
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:00,000
We're 14, 20, 25 from the manager of engineering and the report.

1279
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,000
I will call it street lift station.

1280
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,000
We have the option.

1281
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,000
Direction to apply for strategic priorities.

1282
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,000
Funding funding.

1283
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,000
The resolution numbers.

1284
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:15,000
Re-1 0-25 from the August 26, 2025 regular council meeting.

1285
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,000
Be amended to read as follows.

1286
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,000
That council receives the council direction request.

1287
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,000
Data August 12, 2025 from the manager of engineering.

1288
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,000
And the report title calls.

1289
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,000
Let's station capacity increase assessment.

1290
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:30,000
Repair.

1291
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,000
I associate an engineering.

1292
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,000
Indeed in March.

1293
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:34,000
2025.

1294
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,000
That council direct staff to apply.

1295
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,000
I'm in the strategic priorities.

1296
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:39,000
Fund.

1297
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,000
Capital infrastructure stream.

1298
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,000
The ministered by UBCM for grant funding.

1299
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,000
Okay, replace the call list.

1300
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,000
Lift station.

1301
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,000
With the 1600 meter gravity main.

1302
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,000
In the amount of 1,650,000.

1303
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,000
Capital costs in engineering.

1304
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,000
That council request staff to include a 2026 budget sheet.

1305
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,000
That considers the replacement of a call list.

1306
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:02,000
Lift station.

1307
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,000
With the 1600 meter gravity main.

1308
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,000
Based on 100% of that eligible project costs.

1309
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,000
Being covered under the successful strategic priorities.

1310
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,000
Funding grant application for consideration.

1311
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,000
During the 2026 budget process.

1312
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,000
That council commits to providing overall grant management for the calls.

1313
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,000
Lift station replacement project.

1314
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,000
And further that council.

1315
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:33,000
We'll budget for and cover any cost over runs that may arise during the execution of the project.

1316
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,000
With it.

1317
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,000
Thank you.

1318
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,000
Thank you.

1319
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,000
Thank you very much.

1320
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,000
Thanks.

1321
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,000
Thank you.

1322
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:51,000
We'll not do the council direction request for the director of protective services regarding the stream whether the response plan.

1323
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,000
Thank you.

1324
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,000
So.

1325
01:36:55,000 --> 01:37:03,000
We wanted to bring a report for just to give us an update on some considerations for the extreme weather response plan.

1326
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,000
So.

1327
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:12,000
This plan is for all at risk residents of Creston it included both extreme heat and cold events.

1328
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:16,000
And under the emergency management disaster act, it is responsible.

1329
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,000
It's not a fenced into great plans to help mitigate these hazards.

1330
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,000
So.

1331
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:29,000
Want to focus on like the activation criteria, the staffing and some of the locations.

1332
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:33,000
So our activation criteria is highlighted.

1333
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:49,000
And we talked about the cold extreme cold to start and this starts, you know, prior to the season with you know information and exercises and you know staff being ready to to accommodate.

1334
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:54,000
Activation is not necessarily just based on temperature.

1335
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:59,000
There's there's other factors that may to be included in that or consider.

1336
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,000
And so you can see there we've got a list.

1337
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,000
This is on on page eight of the report, but.

1338
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,000
You know.

1339
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:13,000
Temperature is is one factor and then any of the other following conditions like.

1340
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,000
You know, rain or snow wind.

1341
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,000
Humanity rainfall.

1342
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:24,000
You know, so it's it's not just dictated by temperature or environment.

1343
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:32,000
I'm sorry, environment Canada alerts.

1344
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:42,000
You know, this is something that we've done the research for our value or community, and this is what we feel would work best for us.

1345
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:48,000
So, you know, cold is one heat is another one.

1346
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,000
He does not just about daytime temperatures.

1347
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,000
It's it's really those overnight temperatures.

1348
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,000
You know, can we cool off overnight.

1349
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,000
To to be able to sustain and.

1350
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,000
Humanity plays a large part in that as well.

1351
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:15,000
And so those are those are all factors that we're looking at again, not just relying on environment Canada advisories or alerts.

1352
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,000
So.

1353
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:21,000
Staffing considerations for these.

1354
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,000
These.

1355
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,000
Emergency warming or cooling centers.

1356
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,000
Our eligible for provincial funding.

1357
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:35,000
You know, I'm so when we activate we will get a task number we can submit.

1358
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,000
For expenses.

1359
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,000
And.

1360
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,000
But the responsibility of operating falls on the town of Crest.

1361
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:53,000
And so, you know, we have to come up with a staffing of that's now last year we were able to utilize a panel call firefighters.

1362
01:39:53,000 --> 01:40:02,000
Some of our existing full time stuff and we were able to manage that now going forward.

1363
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:11,000
You know, we're still trying to decide what the best method is, you know, having, you know, volunteers ready to go.

1364
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:15,000
And I'm not volunteers, but having a list of people who are able to work.

1365
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:19,000
You know, and and call that a moment's notice.

1366
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:25,000
You know, utilizing some of those, you know, potentially some pay don't call firefighters or existing staff.

1367
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Now, with staff, you know, there comes some some requirements.

1368
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:35,000
So training is important, so we want to make sure first aid is covered off.

1369
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:40,000
Although there's not, you know, food prep per se like meal prep.

1370
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:46,000
There is, you know, food service and so food safe certification is important.

1371
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:50,000
Deescalation training is always important.

1372
01:40:50,000 --> 01:41:00,000
And so deescalation training for staff or, you know, having some sort of security to help in any situation.

1373
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:13,000
So this is is pretty standard for all workplaces and then, you know, the box on training in this day and age is important, you know, for, for what everybody really.

1374
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:26,000
We do anticipate, you know, a cost to be anywhere from $450 to $500 per person to achieve that level of training for a great time.

1375
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,000
Some of the locations.

1376
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:37,000
So you'll probably remember last year or last winter is when we operated our warming center.

1377
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:44,000
We were able to use the old wet dorm space out of the old ambulance station.

1378
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:57,000
Some some pros and cons to that, but you know, it was a good space that had the amenities that were needed and it allowed us because there was nobody else in there.

1379
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,000
It allowed us to take the kind of leave it set up for the time period we needed.

1380
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:07,000
So we weren't having to take things down and move things around every day.

1381
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:11,000
We've explored some other options.

1382
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:22,000
You know, so the library has a conference room that actually has a small kind of an attached to it separate washrooms.

1383
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:28,000
It's got its own public entrance to it that can be locked off from the rest of the of the building there.

1384
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:33,000
And so, you know, a possibility to use that space.

1385
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:39,000
Now we would have to enter into agreements to be able to use that, but that's not orness.

1386
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:46,000
The problem there is that there's lots of other public groups that use that space or book that space.

1387
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:55,000
And, you know, we could have an activation criteria, our activation thresholds hit and we're like, okay, we want to use this space.

1388
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:59,000
Well, they might have booked out for weeks where the meetings with another user group.

1389
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:03,000
So we've got to be mindful of that.

1390
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:08,000
We did a look at the arm sausage building and, you know, it's definitely interesting.

1391
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,000
There's lots of user groups within that building.

1392
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:22,000
So we want to make sure and consult and understand, you know, their issues if any, but there's also.

1393
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:26,000
Good areas that are secured and locked off.

1394
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:35,000
And so when we looked at it, we thought, well, yes, for a warming or even a cooling space, you know, we could use a small portion.

1395
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:46,000
And the rest of the building would maybe be secured, right, from the offices or the other users in that building.

1396
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:51,000
So, you know, again, if if the.

1397
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,000
There are some cons there, we could set up.

1398
01:43:54,000 --> 01:44:03,000
But then, you know, take down everything, we have to be removed, you can do left out in place as the business opens up for, for the daytime type of thing.

1399
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:09,000
Lastly, we have, you know, this room here, and this room is actually been used.

1400
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:14,000
In the past, for, for a cooling center.

1401
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:19,000
So it, it's, it does work.

1402
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:27,000
But again, you know, just in the building here, I'm some of the, some of the equipment and that kind of stuff, you know, may present some some problems.

1403
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:33,000
And rarely this room is, you know, it's used regularly for meetings and other events and stuff like that.

1404
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,000
We do have a.

1405
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:43,000
We, we, we, we've shown that to you guys, so we've got a tent that can be set up in different locations.

1406
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,000
And this would be for cooling only.

1407
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:49,000
You know, and we've used.

1408
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:54,000
We haven't used this tent as a cooling center, but we used other tents.

1409
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,000
We have misting fans, you know, we can set up picnic tables.

1410
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,000
We can offer cold water.

1411
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:24,000
And so it's a nice gesture to help for people who are coming by. The nice thing with the tent, so originally or in the past, it's been set up at the emergency services building, but we're starting to think about or explore ideas of, you know, couldn't be set up in other strategic locations, you know, that might better serve those who need it.

1412
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:39,000
So that's it. If there's any questions where you are looking for, yeah, to bring this to, you know, the next council meeting for adoption, unless there's there's any changes or any questions that people might have.

1413
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,000
That's personal.

1414
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:46,000
Is there any private locations that were looked out or is that not an option?

1415
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,000
All right, no, we didn't consider.

1416
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,000
That's a big issue.

1417
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,000
I should drive it.

1418
01:45:54,000 --> 01:46:04,000
Yeah, we focused on, you know, town owns, public spaces, you know, that's that, the land and leverage there.

1419
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,000
But we didn't approach any other issues.

1420
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,000
I'm sure both.

1421
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,000
I'd be in terms of staffing.

1422
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:15,000
The EMCR funding is for incremental costs.

1423
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:23,000
So in other words, if it's staff, presumably, if, you know, to 30 in the afternoon, you're not going to go over there because you're taking somebody out or like,

1424
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,000
or that is a good idea.

1425
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:29,000
Because I know it's only for overtime in terms of claiming.

1426
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:36,000
No, no, the, the, the, the, the task number, you have the province will cover wage expenses.

1427
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,000
It's not, it has nothing, like there's, there's different criteria, there's different policy.

1428
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,000
If, if we were to use this room.

1429
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:45,000
Yeah.

1430
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,000
And, you know, I've been working 830 to 530.

1431
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,000
Sure.

1432
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:50,000
I can be in this room.

1433
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,000
And the town of Creston is already paying me to, to work that day.

1434
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,000
Right.

1435
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:58,000
They've just reassigned me to do these managing the, the warm and center.

1436
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,000
You have to let them cover that.

1437
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,000
But that wouldn't have put in another six hours after that to manage it.

1438
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:04,000
They would cover.

1439
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,000
So I'm sorry that.

1440
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:12,000
But it's saying that though, if, if, you know, we had this warming center open up overnight last winter.

1441
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,000
We'll see.

1442
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:14,000
I did it.

1443
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:18,000
And so it opened that 8 o'clock 7 o'clock till 7 o'clock or 8 o'clock to 8 o'clock.

1444
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,000
The people that worked that.

1445
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,000
Those wages were covered.

1446
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,000
But, right.

1447
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:29,000
You know, we don't have, there was no capacity for us to,

1448
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:33,000
to reassign somebody from those hours.

1449
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,000
Because it's just outside of our,

1450
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,000
because it's just our scope, right?

1451
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,000
It's okay.

1452
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:38,000
It's okay.

1453
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:39,000
That.

1454
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,000
That helps a lot.

1455
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,000
Um, we can thank you, Stas.

1456
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:48,000
Um, you talked about foreign $50 per employee for training costs.

1457
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:53,000
Is that covered through granting dollars or through past number.

1458
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,000
Correct.

1459
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,000
Patients.

1460
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:56,000
We have to do that.

1461
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,000
We would have to do that for that.

1462
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:05,000
So that would be on us on council to, you know, prepare for and be ready to do that.

1463
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,000
Now, there's, um, yeah.

1464
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:13,000
So, you know, we talked about the pay on call firefighters and they come to the table with,

1465
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,000
with the majority of us.

1466
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:16,000
Yeah.

1467
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:22,000
And so, um, you know, we were fortunate last year to not have to put anybody through training

1468
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:25,000
because, you know, we had, you had the right people involved there.

1469
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:29,000
But no, that would be a, uh, a cost that, you know,

1470
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:35,000
it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be ready to be ready.

1471
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:36,000
Thank you.

1472
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,000
Yeah.

1473
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,000
Yeah.

1474
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,000
We need to recommendation that before us is that council receives, you know,

1475
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:45,000
over 14, 20, 25 council direction request titled,

1476
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:51,000
the extreme weather response plan from the director for that services and further that council

1477
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:56,000
to the next step to present the town of press city screen weather response plan at an upcoming regular

1478
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:59,000
council building for council's consideration.

1479
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:00,000
Go with that.

1480
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,000
All right.

1481
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,000
Thank you.

1482
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,000
Thank you, Jerry.

1483
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:09,000
Now, I mean, we've got to be recommendation that we rise with committee, though.

1484
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,000
Good.

1485
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:11,000
Okay.

1486
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:12,000
Good.

1487
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,000
Thank you.

1488
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:14,000
Also.

1489
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:15,000
Yeah.

1490
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:20,000
I'm going to start with the recommendations.

1491
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:25,000
I request for decision from the CAO regarding exactly where that picture we use.

1492
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:29,000
We have official resolution and a vote from that.

1493
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,000
On the surprise price.

1494
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,000
Oh, sorry.

1495
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:33,000
All of favor.

1496
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:34,000
I'll have to.

1497
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,000
I'll say.

1498
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:36,000
I'll be.

1499
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,000
I'll be.

1500
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:38,000
I'll be.

1501
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:39,000
I'll be.

1502
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,000
I'll be.

1503
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,000
I'll be.

1504
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,000
I'll be.

1505
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,000
I'll be.

1506
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:44,000
I'll be.

1507
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,000
I'll be.

1508
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,000
I'll be.

1509
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,000
I'll be.

1510
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,000
I'll be.

1511
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:49,000
I'll be.

1512
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:51,000
Thank you.

1513
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:52,000
Okay, so now.

1514
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,000
And then we're best for decision from the CAO regarding these down staff.

1515
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,000
Compensation review.

1516
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,000
Mike.

1517
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:00,000
You're.

1518
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:01,000
I'm.

1519
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,000
I'm.

1520
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,000
I'm.

1521
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,000
I'm.

1522
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,000
I'm.

1523
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,000
I'm.

1524
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:10,000
I'm.

1525
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,000
I'm.

1526
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,000
I'm.

1527
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,000
I'm.

1528
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,000
I'm.

1529
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,000
I'm.

1530
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,000
I'm.

1531
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,000
I'm.

1532
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,000
I'm.

1533
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:20,000
I'm.

1534
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:21,000
I'm.

1535
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,000
I'm.

1536
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,000
I'm.

1537
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:24,000
I'm.

1538
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,000
I'm.

1539
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,000
I'm.

1540
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:50,000
I'm.

1541
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:19,000
I'm.

1542
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:20,000
I'm.

1543
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:21,000
I'm.

1544
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,000
I'm.

1545
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:23,000
I'm.

1546
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:24,000
I'm.

1547
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,000
I'm.

1548
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:26,000
I'm.

1549
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,000
I'm.

1550
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,000
I'm.

1551
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:29,000
I'm.

1552
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:30,000
I'm.

1553
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,000
I'm.

1554
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:32,000
I'm.

1555
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:33,000
I'm.

1556
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:34,000
I'm.

1557
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,000
I'm.

1558
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,000
I'm.

1559
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,000
I'm.

1560
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,000
I'm.

1561
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,000
I'm.

1562
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,000
I'm.

1563
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,000
I'm.

1564
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,000
I'm.

1565
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,000
I'm.

1566
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,000
I'm.

1567
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,000
I'm.

1568
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,000
I'm.

1569
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,000
I'm.

1570
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,000
you

1571
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,000
you

1572
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,000
you

1573
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:19,000
you

1574
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,000
you

1575
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,000
you

1576
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,000
you

1577
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,000
you

1578
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,000
you

1579
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,000
you

1580
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,000
you

1581
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,000
you

1582
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,000
you

1583
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,000
you

1584
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,000
you

1585
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,000
you

1586
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,000
you

1587
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,000
you

1588
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:35,000
you

1589
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:54,520
go with our CAO then immigration. Okay, thank you very much to Worship. So I'll try to

1590
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:58,360
again I apologize to both the wanting to be a gentleman today.

1591
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:08,200
Sure, sure. Who actually added the most of it? But I'll try to keep this presentation short. I

1592
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:12,840
wanted to be able to walk through the presentation and answer any question that they can also

1593
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,840
be involved in. So I'll try to, well, for this quickly, could we still go out of

1594
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:21,800
one for a minute? So at this presentation, I'll provide the review of the 2025

1595
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:26,360
Conversations Survey, for example, on the finding recommendations and the implementations

1596
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:31,400
strategy to to assist council in their informed decision-making process.

1597
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:41,880
So the compensation review, it's a data-driven analysis

1598
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:47,480
of exempt stock conversation, benchmarking across those practices against comparable

1599
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:53,480
BC municipalities, the review funds, of all some positions, are confiscated, you know,

1600
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:58,440
after above the Mark Advance Marks, the majority of exempt stock roles, particularly in leadership

1601
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,440
and spot-fly zeroes remain.

1602
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:19,000
I mean, below the 60th percent album market. Our current employee compensation policy established as a transparent market, based approach targeting the 60th percent album, categorical municipalities, with regular external reviews, and annual adjustments based on the DC consumer price index or CPI.

1603
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:29,000
So, despite the framework of recent inflation and cap to increase the due budget constraints, I've led to compensation lighting behind both market competitors and inflation.

1604
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:34,000
Which just pulls a risk of long return to recruitment retention and organizational stability.

1605
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:46,000
So, to address these gaps, the review recommends a phase adjustment plan over three years of aligned salaries, with market benchmarks, well balancing fiscal responsibility to plan is consistent with best practices,

1606
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:57,000
as recommended by the auditor general for local government. There's the number reports that the AGLG had done for municipalities on human resources and, you know,

1607
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:08,000
part of the concluded compensation package of the programs, as well as a UBCM and the local government management association.

1608
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:16,000
So, most of the damn stop positions are below the market averages and percentiles, especially in leadership and specialized roles.

1609
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:24,000
Crest and compensation. This was the first, there's one type of, I thought I adjusted it before saving it to the council's report.

1610
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:30,000
So, the numbers will be slightly less than the numbers that are in your in your report and in the motion.

1611
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:41,000
But the actual compensation is 260,000 807, so a little bit less than, I think it's a 230 something in your original report. So, it's a little bit less.

1612
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:50,000
So, the compensation is 260,000 807 below the 60th percentile aligned in our employee compensation policy.

1613
02:01:50,000 --> 02:02:01,000
This number is lower than the recommended motion, which will be adjusted reflect the total, which will get to of 276807 for inclusion and five year financial plan.

1614
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:07,000
The current policy merit increases have not been fully implemented due to budget constraints further widening the gap for high performing staff.

1615
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:16,000
So, the last time that we did this, we had identified, you know, the policy gaps and created the policy, we provided an implementation plan.

1616
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:29,000
But the one thing that never really got fully flushed out was being able to have that contingency amount to be able to move people up if they were 85% mark of a salary range is being able to move them up to that 100% over a current time.

1617
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:36,000
And, and each budget year since then, the haven't been rectified.

1618
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:46,000
So, just very quickly, just so that we, you know, make sure that we understand that we're talking low in our staffing.

1619
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:56,000
So, the down employees both exempt, which is referring to as an online unionized staff, and unionized employees unionized employees wages are negotiated through a collective bargaining process.

1620
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:07,000
Determined by the expiry of the collective agreement, exempt staff are not represented by a body and a negotiator review and remoration, reviews and increases are the threshold being player.

1621
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:16,000
As of October 1st, 2025, across not 21 exempt staff members performing technical administrative management leadership functions.

1622
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:25,000
Our policy or employee compensation policies, the establishes that a salary year will be established using the 60% of market surveys.

1623
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:33,000
And so, when we add to staffing for example, that's the policy we look at for which structure.

1624
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:40,000
So, the purpose of the report is to provide counsel that comprehensive review of the exempt staff compensation.

1625
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:54,000
I've compared with the recent market survey is review aims at to ensure the compensation practices are competitive equitable and aligned with the council policy supporting the talents ability to attract and retain qualified individuals in a challenging labor market.

1626
02:03:54,000 --> 02:04:01,000
The review also seeks to address identified gaps between the current compensation and industry benchmarks.

1627
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:06,000
And to recommend policy and budgetary actions that will position the talent for long-term organizational success.

1628
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,000
So, the last time we had a big policy gap, we adjusted the policy.

1629
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:14,000
This time, I'm going through it and I'll explain in a couple of the gaps as we go through.

1630
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:20,000
There are some recommendations to adjust the policy or the policy to be able to be a little better.

1631
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:25,000
So, just quickly, the previous review.

1632
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:28,000
I've done in July 2022.

1633
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:36,000
It gets basically found that we were about a hundred and ninety four thousand short from the industry benchmarks at that time.

1634
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:43,000
As well as the review identified that we did not have an update for exempt staff compensation.

1635
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:48,000
And the existing practices were not fully aligned with council's adopted policy.

1636
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:54,000
For example, council's involvement in setting individual staff wages was not consistent with the one employee model that we actually operate under.

1637
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:59,000
And is the recommended best practice.

1638
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:08,000
Council had directed myself to amend the exempt staff compensation policy and review and create regular review periods and pay bounds based upon the market percent else.

1639
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:15,000
Which was the was ended up being the policy that was created.

1640
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:19,000
As well as compensation adjustment plan.

1641
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:25,000
Which identified six exempt positions as being significantly below market compensation.

1642
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:30,000
So we developed a plan very specifically to deal addresses the six individuals.

1643
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:33,000
As well as the other gaps.

1644
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,000
The proposed plan was done over a three year period time.

1645
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:40,000
Actually, this last budget cycle was the last year of making those adjustments.

1646
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:44,000
And so here we are now the policy to say every four years.

1647
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:52,000
But council had at the time had directed it that they wanted that market review and those adjustments be done to be done.

1648
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,000
The year before in his collection.

1649
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:58,000
So that policy very specifically identified 2025.

1650
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:11,000
So the next the next policy or next survey review will be done in four years versus the three years at a stick like so.

1651
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:26,000
So the policy is published in the exempt staff salaries be set using the transparent market based approach calls for regular market reviews every four years third year of the council term.

1652
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:32,000
With interim annual adjustments to the between the market surveys of using BC CPI.

1653
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,000
I believe the policy says the November to November 8.

1654
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:41,000
And that's when since then we've upgraded the seller drinking cheer using them.

1655
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:52,000
The salary grid was to be developed targeting the sixteenth percent hotel of the market average with a range of 85% to 110% of that benchmark.

1656
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:57,000
So that that there's a range for whom we had new employees where they fit in there.

1657
02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:00,000
Through year one firm by performing staff.

1658
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:06,000
We also created a achievement lying in review process or a PRP.

1659
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:11,000
Which to eliminate from the previously we had an employment agreement.

1660
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:15,000
Is that everybody got a CPI factor cap to two percent.

1661
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,000
And they did not vote performance.

1662
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:22,000
So we were trying any increase including CPI to at least a minimum level of performance.

1663
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:32,000
And as well as it the policy contemplated merit increases for staff below market with slower increases for those that that were above the hundred percent.

1664
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:43,000
So that we get sort of be able to bring people up if you hire somebody and you bring them that 85% range that you could move them up over a period of time to that hundred percent to market.

1665
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:48,000
This approach is consistent with the recommended practices by UBCM.

1666
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:53,000
Local government management association, NGLG reports.

1667
02:07:53,000 --> 02:08:05,000
And you know and basically they emphasize the importance of having a clear regular due compensation benefits policy through the government employees.

1668
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:13,000
And won't have a global risk entirely, but this is a comparison when we did especially with the last policy update.

1669
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:25,000
We compared our policy to be had with other municipalities and very quickly is our policy fits with what other municipalities are doing, which is very fabulous at the best practices.

1670
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,000
So regular market reviews, cost-living adjustments.

1671
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:36,000
Performance based increases in council oversight of the policy.

1672
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,000
And briefly about the municipality.

1673
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,000
I've heard of terms on the policy.

1674
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:42,000
It's up to C.A.

1675
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,000
It is the power to the policy competitor.

1676
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,000
Like the last survey.

1677
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:52,000
We targeted the communities between five and 15,000.

1678
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:56,000
There's 35 municipalities between five to 15,000.

1679
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:59,000
And cover a little bit the reasons why.

1680
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,000
So.

1681
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:07,000
First off, they, you know, the small populations, you know, municipalities under 15,000 residents.

1682
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:10,000
A resident evenly across all geographical areas of province.

1683
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:17,000
So then you're able to to get different market conditions, different cost-living conditions, like it's very geographically balanced.

1684
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:23,000
Whereas as soon as you get over 15,000, like the 15,000 to 49,000, you end up with mostly self-coast and anchor ground.

1685
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:27,000
There's a couple in the gocanog and one in the north.

1686
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:31,000
You start getting a lot smaller geographical representation.

1687
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,000
And then.

1688
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:34,000
Um.

1689
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:38,000
You know, and so you get some some block of regional representation.

1690
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:42,000
So caravanskina districts have no communities between that 15 and 49.

1691
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:47,000
And then, of course, your large population as palaties are basically reflective of the.

1692
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,000
Greater Vancouver area.

1693
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:54,000
So why we stay with the five to 15,000 is service similarities.

1694
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:56,000
Service similarities.

1695
02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:58,000
Um.

1696
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,000
Now, for example.

1697
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,000
These communities are required to pay 70% of policing costs.

1698
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:09,000
So that, you know, you're, you're getting that range anything below 5,000, they're not paying for policing.

1699
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:12,000
And over 15,000 are paying for 90% police.

1700
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:19,000
Other things that change at the 15,000 population mark, you know, and this is more of an empirical thing to look up when, you know,

1701
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:20,000
I'm looking at communities.

1702
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:25,000
Is anything over 15,000, you know, you're more likely to have a larger career-fighting department.

1703
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:29,000
Um, you know, which has, you know, much larger significant staff costing.

1704
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:34,000
Um, everything just gets exponentially larger, very fast over that 15,000.

1705
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:38,000
Um, and for consistency when we go through some of the data ahead.

1706
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:41,000
All of that data was obtained from the province of BC.

1707
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:43,000
They'd be on their website.

1708
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,000
They actually have the data for populations.

1709
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:46,000
That's what they used.

1710
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:49,000
And then all the tax collection or the tax per capita.

1711
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,000
And all that is all in the province of BC.

1712
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:55,000
So that's just a very cute system place for the, um, to reflect.

1713
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:57,000
Um, so some of the competitors have been used.

1714
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:01,000
So besides the service similarities, the municipal taxes per capita.

1715
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:04,000
Since annual budgets can vary due to factors like pronounced services.

1716
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,000
One time projects are on and on.

1717
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:10,000
It's hard to compare, you know, budgets to budgets.

1718
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:14,000
So what we found was a very consistent way of using from the provincial data.

1719
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:17,000
Municipal taxes per capita.

1720
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:22,000
Because taxes that are collected are really for your poor services generally speaking.

1721
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:26,000
And so that's a really good reference point regardless of size of community.

1722
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:30,000
How much are they chart collecting taxes for services per person?

1723
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:34,000
Um, you know, that way it eliminates, you know, grants.

1724
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:37,000
Like when you look at an operational budget one year to be 15 million.

1725
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:39,000
And that's year to be 25 million.

1726
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:42,000
But the difference between the two is a 10 million dollar grant.

1727
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,000
You know, it doesn't really speak to that.

1728
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:49,000
We found that the municipal taxes per capita was a more consistent way to measure across communities.

1729
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:54,000
Um, I captured this one out of the data because, you know,

1730
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:59,000
uh, and as a conversation often in Creston is that we relied very heavily on residential taxation.

1731
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:04,000
So I want to take a look at, you know, what, how do we compare it to other municipalities.

1732
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:09,000
In terms of how much real real iron residential taxation.

1733
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:23,000
Um, then provincial representation, you know, we were looking to make sure that we had municipalities for various reasons of BC capturing the differences in cost of living and government practices.

1734
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:28,000
So what we ended up with was 54% for 19 was follows in total.

1735
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:32,000
Um, that informed the data survey.

1736
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:35,000
Additional consideration, the survey results were undertaken.

1737
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:41,000
We're trying to have there was variants of based on other factors such as limiting like communities to say 10,000 under.

1738
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,000
Uh, when I did that, the numbers went up.

1739
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:49,000
Um, it actually increased the salary ranges and, uh, right.

1740
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,000
I'm not, I'm not entirely sure why.

1741
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:55,000
Um, there was some anomalies that you could speak to.

1742
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:58,000
Um, but in general, they started to race.

1743
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:08,000
Um, I think that speaks to a little bit about the competition for some of the specialized roles in the small community.

1744
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:11,000
So some of the small communities they were willing to pay more of this.

1745
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:14,000
That's an empirical gas from the data.

1746
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:20,000
Um, hey, I'm here's the list of the communities that we have data from the 19 communities.

1747
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:28,000
Um, those in alphabetical order, no, by order of population.

1748
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,000
So with the comparative municipalities.

1749
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:36,000
Um, so they range in population from 5,737 being an Assoius.

1750
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:40,000
Uh, to the largest one is being 13,252, which is the city of Terrace.

1751
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:49,000
Uh, 19 municipalities represent 54.3% of the 35 municipalities that we could have data from.

1752
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,000
The president is the third smallest by population.

1753
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:59,000
Um, six municipalities were within 10% of the president's population and represent 31.5% of the survey.

1754
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:05,000
So, you know, we are capturing enough municipalities as well in the smaller side.

1755
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:08,000
So the other data points that we looked at.

1756
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:12,000
Um, just to be able to see if there was really any massive anomalies with the group.

1757
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:16,000
Um, you know, Kristen has a 990 municipal taxes per capita.

1758
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:21,000
So if you took our $6 million of selected property taxes, a lot you're divided by the population.

1759
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,000
So you give a number.

1760
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:27,000
Um, ranking the third lowest compared to the other municipalities.

1761
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:31,000
It's a drain from 761 as high as 2,200.

1762
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:35,000
Um, the average was 4,496.

1763
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:38,000
Um, I used to abroad in the representative host values.

1764
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,000
This does not have a lot of value.

1765
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:44,000
And in that sort of the comparison, but it does speak a little bit too.

1766
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:48,000
Um, you know, the communities themselves, I guess, a little bit.

1767
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:52,000
Um, so pressed to the average home value was 435,000.

1768
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:56,000
It was the fifth lowest out of the survey shows at 19 municipalities.

1769
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:58,000
Um, well, 20 including us, I guess.

1770
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:00,000
Uh, ranging from 20.

1771
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:13,000
255 in the low side to 1.1 million, the average was 668, residential property taxes. When we looked at total, and this is total taxes and charges. So this is including your utility bill and as well.

1772
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:27,000
Stress and residential property taxes were $4,182, ranking the eight floors out of that governor and the range was between $4,171,00, the average was 52,75.

1773
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:33,000
Applied to the average house or the representative of post city to the public.

1774
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:39,000
The residential tax share percentage, 74% for us and total tax revenue comes from residential properties.

1775
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:45,000
Ranking the six highest among the pick-aparitan municipality, the highest was 92% the average was 60.

1776
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:57,000
And so there was quite a mixture of ranges. There was certainly one community I think was as low as 23% which was pronounced 92% was peach land.

1777
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:08,000
And I believe that was all on a chart that I provided and then the first appendix so that it sort of see where we write tomorrow.

1778
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:21,000
So I'm not going to go through each one, like in the report. I just basically wanted to show a chart, which is basically shows our salary to the 60% tile, the gap to the 60% tile.

1779
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:35,000
And whether or not that falls below 85% range on the grid as well because that was one of our challenges last time as well as that we update the grid and then employees aren't even on the grid.

1780
02:16:35,000 --> 02:16:41,000
You know, forget that you're not even to the 60th and you're not even on the salary itself.

1781
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:50,000
So on this one here there was four positions that are literally off the grid itself.

1782
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:56,000
And on this one here, this covers protective services and infrastructure services there were two that were off the grid.

1783
02:16:56,000 --> 02:17:03,000
And again, this is just taking the raw numbers from the compensation to the 60% tile.

1784
02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:19,000
So the total estimated cost to reach the 60th percent tile has contemplated in the policy is 260,000 807.

1785
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:23,000
Again, I found that I think that number is a little higher than the report.

1786
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:31,000
There was one I thought I had corrected before I post that there was one inconsistent data set that I had to pull out of it.

1787
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:36,000
And I think there's only system chiefs because I should.

1788
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:43,000
To reduce the impact budget to suggest that the phase the adjustments over a two year period of time and I say two years going to be a two to three year period of time.

1789
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:50,000
This may not be done evenly by positions, so this is not an approach of just, you know, like it's all done equally across the board.

1790
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:53,000
Some positions need more attention than others.

1791
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:57,000
And, and it's important because of how the pace of the works.

1792
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:03,000
The way the paper to set up is that 85% and this is just kind of a high level view of it.

1793
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:06,000
The 85% range is for people that are around new in a position.

1794
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:15,000
And your 100% is basically your experienced knowledgeable employees and your 110% or your long-term high achieving.

1795
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:20,000
And so, in there, well, we have to adjust, you can't say somebody's new forever.

1796
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:25,000
So you can't seem a 85% forever, but if they are today, they may not get the increase to 100%.

1797
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:30,000
Immediately, because we have other employees that we should be moving up their quicker.

1798
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:37,000
So he's wanted to sort of point out not to be within the discretion of my discretion as I put together the compensation plan.

1799
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:42,000
But take me these numbers as they are to start across the board.

1800
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:47,000
It broke out to be about 108,000 for the first two years and 60,000.

1801
02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:50,000
This is the sort of the worst case scenario.

1802
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:54,000
I do intend to be able to take a look at this and adjust it.

1803
02:18:54,000 --> 02:19:00,000
When I was doing this and the apps of the having a director of finance to help me correlate all these numbers.

1804
02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:07,000
For example, I'm taking a pretty high estimate of that contingency we need for merit-based.

1805
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:17,000
You know, part of me, I would like to say lower immediately to you right now, but I want to be able to make sure that we have something that will fit and work with our longer term compensation plan.

1806
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,000
So right now, I would say this is your worst case scenario.

1807
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:24,000
What would show up in the fight in the fight in your financial plan?

1808
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:36,000
And you know, as I enable a little through it and a little person by person, which I'm not going to do in an open meeting or in a council is, you know, some of these may start to lower some of those from this raw data.

1809
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:45,000
In other words, is that there's, you know, some people will be right to that 60% tell them to do.

1810
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:52,000
The estimated tax, I'll speak about, so that's based upon 25 or 1% generated 60,000.

1811
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:57,000
That doesn't account for any non market changes that happen every year.

1812
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:00,000
And so as that takes place, that reduces the tax.

1813
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:05,000
So, in other words, it was a market, you know, just like next 20, 6, 1% went in rate 63,000.

1814
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:08,000
So that does change the percentages a little bit.

1815
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:11,000
And that's just the estimated tax in cox trader process.

1816
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:15,000
That's not necessarily what we're proposing in terms of how we're going to find this.

1817
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:18,000
That all becomes part of your budget process.

1818
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:23,000
And, you know, we're funding is going to come from.

1819
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:29,000
But again, just taking the raw numbers, that's what the value of the money.

1820
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:35,000
So, some considerations for implementation.

1821
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:42,000
And so, you know, the number of positions are below, especially in leadership and specialized roles.

1822
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:48,000
You know, the ACAOs compensation is a sole discretion of council.

1823
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:52,000
The fees, the adjustments will help balance market competitive from fiscal responsibility.

1824
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:57,000
So, again, if you know, for other than trying to do it overnight, we're going to do that over a period of time.

1825
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:01,000
Again, to the day, the ACAOs responsible for the recovery retention of employees.

1826
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:06,000
And we'll work with the individual staff to develop an adjustment plan that achieves the market benchmark.

1827
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:07,000
So, that for your period of time.

1828
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:12,000
So, I'll be meeting with all the affected staff, you know, the next month or so.

1829
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:14,000
And that will help inform budget as well.

1830
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:18,000
And as I anticipate, we'll lower the number a little bit.

1831
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:23,000
And then, you know, transparent communication and annual reviews are essential for successful implementation.

1832
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:27,000
So, our staff are well aware what the market is.

1833
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:32,000
I mean, that information is available or to our staff at all times for civic info.

1834
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:38,000
And so, it's not like our staff are unaware where they fall from their positions to what the market wages are.

1835
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:46,000
So, you know, it's really important for us to be able to be very clear about what we're going to approach that and how we're going to deal with it and how we value them.

1836
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:51,000
So, you can throw that process.

1837
02:21:52,000 --> 02:22:00,000
I just included, and I'm not going to read this, but I just included the other benefits that we do have because I mean, you know, everything does come out of cost.

1838
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:07,000
You know, so, it just mentioned we'd be benefit, actually, we have that's in a separate policy, we actually do have a benefit policy.

1839
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:12,000
And so, that's already been laid out in that policy relatively recent.

1840
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:20,000
It's only a couple years old and we did a fairly comprehensive comparison to communities when we get that and we were pretty much.

1841
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:36,000
Similar to most communities, but communities do a lot of different things when it comes to different types of policies, sort of benefits, so it's kind of an expag today, it's hard to compare straight across.

1842
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:46,000
So, the recommendations to council is get first office to need to approve the revised salary grid based upon the current market benchmarks to maintain betterness.

1843
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:54,000
So, I completely put that in the report as well, with us the 2026 salary grid looks like.

1844
02:22:54,000 --> 02:23:05,000
Implement the phased increases over two to three years for all positions, below the 60th percentile has identified in the contemplated in the employee compensation policy.

1845
02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:16,000
That we need to provide continuously funds to support the merit increases that's caused quite a not policy at all, especially for high-performing staff below market benchmarks.

1846
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:31,000
And again, when we start with people up closer to that reduces the need perhaps for that 60,000, but you know for that contingency, so that's where I said I have a feeling that it can be less than than that, but I wanted to come in here to say this is the worst case scenario.

1847
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:44,000
Align the update factor within the policy to match 100% of ECCPI, ensuring compensation keeps pace with inflation, so what we did at the update factor originally was a few communities were doing it.

1848
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:58,000
They were probably providing a 75% of CPI, but updating their salary grid with CPI will we did the same thing and what happens and if inflation is 3% salary grid goes up 3%.

1849
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:18,000
We only go up, you know, 2.5% up mid, but you know we're not keeping up with inflationary number, you do that over four year period of time and that adds up to you know a couple percentage points third yet the other market pressures that can be on certain positions.

1850
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:29,000
Do, you know, basically provide direction to, you know, for me to clearly explain to staff the rational for compensation decisions including budget limits and councils climb to address the gaps over time.

1851
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:35,000
And I think this would also be important rather than let staff, you know, firmly their own story in their head.

1852
02:24:36,000 --> 02:24:45,000
You know, how providing the direction of school or staff retention engagement through professional development flexible work arrangements and well as programs.

1853
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:52,000
This does be down basically on an individual basis because somebody doesn't have to accept that as an option for pay.

1854
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:57,000
In other words, as they felt that they were, you know, their market condition was worth that.

1855
02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:01,000
You know, certainly me offering a rec center cost doesn't necessarily feel like out.

1856
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:10,000
If it does for somebody to rate, if it doesn't, but we certainly haven't taken a lot of time to talk about directly with staff and so it is an opportunity to sort of see.

1857
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:19,000
There is some professional development with some employees that some employees have expressed the desire to to house and professional development.

1858
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:26,000
And that perhaps is an avenue again to to sort of offset some of that compensation, but.

1859
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:30,000
You know, I have to sort of, it's a case by case basis.

1860
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:41,000
By implementing these recommendations, council will strengthen the towns ability to attract and retain talent support service excellence and maintain fiscal responsibility ensuring that compensation practices remain fair.

1861
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:45,000
We've got to have been sustainable.

1862
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:56,000
And the review and proposed recommendations aimed in sure fair to better have been sustainable compensation for press and exempt staff supporting organization, disability and excellence.

1863
02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:57,000
Questions.

1864
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,000
I'd advise building my voice.

1865
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:00,000
Yeah.

1866
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:01,000
That would be.

1867
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:02,000
Thank you.

1868
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:05,000
Just a few questions and things.

1869
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:10,000
Thanks very much for the work.

1870
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:12,000
For the work that's here.

1871
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:14,000
And I do apologize.

1872
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,000
Some.

1873
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:19,000
Not here for the last round of this conversation.

1874
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:22,000
So.

1875
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:24,000
Let's see.

1876
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:27,000
I'm just curious.

1877
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:33,000
Like you talked about year one year two year three.

1878
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:39,000
A plan that's shifting from a three year review to a four year review and nothing around.

1879
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:45,000
Concentration or salary increases in the year four.

1880
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:48,000
So just trying to understand.

1881
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:52,000
How that looks and I don't think I really understand.

1882
02:26:52,000 --> 02:27:05,000
How back in 22 we identified employees that were below the 60th percentile and changes were made to bring them up.

1883
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:10,000
But now we're still looking at employees that are under the 60th percentile.

1884
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:11,000
So.

1885
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:13,000
I think.

1886
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:16,000
The plan needs to have a shift.

1887
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:23,000
Maybe where we don't keep having employees sitting at that 60th percentile unless I'm misunderstanding something.

1888
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:28,000
So the last when we did the review and we developed a policy.

1889
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:32,000
And I would be very careful of how to explain this chemical meeting.

1890
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:36,000
But we developed a policy that fit the individual staff.

1891
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:42,000
So while the gap between the the compensation of the time to the 60th percentile is 191,000.

1892
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:46,000
We did not cover that gap because we had a number of new people and positions.

1893
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:48,000
I could.

1894
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:50,000
When I worked with individual staff.

1895
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:56,000
There is you know people and roles that I could easily say, well, I get a like your 85 percent are here.

1896
02:27:56,000 --> 02:28:00,000
And, you know, keep up the good work in real will slowly move.

1897
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:02,000
Yeah, I wasn't able to move them up.

1898
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:07,000
And so what we did was we were able to bring some of the staff that were below the salary to get into the salary grid.

1899
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:09,000
But we never brought everybody up to the 60th percentile.

1900
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:11,000
So it wasn't like that.

1901
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:16,000
And you went 1,000 that I did for the 2022 survey that we covered all that ground.

1902
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,000
Got everybody at the 60th percentile.

1903
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:19,000
Oh my god.

1904
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:20,000
We're down 200.

1905
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:21,000
So that's the thing.

1906
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:24,000
If you were to compare the numbers.

1907
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:26,000
You know what we increased.

1908
02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:30,000
And I like when I didn't do the math like this because it became irrelevant.

1909
02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:33,000
But if you looked at how much we of that,

1910
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:35,000
$191,000 to be actually covered.

1911
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:39,000
We probably only covered half of that for three quarters of that.

1912
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:46,000
And, and so what's happened is between, you know, as we moved them up and got to mention that salary grid.

1913
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:50,000
We're only paying, we're providing an update factor 75 percent of CPI.

1914
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:54,000
We never really got to the 60th percentile and the market's been changed.

1915
02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:56,000
And so you put all those factors in there.

1916
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:58,000
That just made that gap a little bit bigger.

1917
02:28:58,000 --> 02:28:59,000
Moving forward.

1918
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:01,000
Down to your question about the fourth year.

1919
02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:09,000
Ideally, if once if it and, you know, again, I'm saying this as a as the hypothetical perfect world.

1920
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:14,000
If I took everybody and put them at the 60th percentile tomorrow.

1921
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:21,000
And we had the small contingency to make sure that our high performance staff get the merit increases that they deserve to keep on, you know,

1922
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:26,000
and, you know, I can see market changing over time anyhow because, you know,

1923
02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:31,000
this data, some of the data is available through civic info on an annual basis.

1924
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:33,000
We do self-reporting the wages.

1925
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:36,000
And so I can sort of start to see market trends.

1926
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:41,000
Or if there's a reason to that I need to invest in somebody to make sure, you know,

1927
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:43,000
and retaining that staff member here.

1928
02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:45,000
You know, you have that little bit of funding there.

1929
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:50,000
You should connect market survey in theory, especially if we change that CPI.

1930
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:52,000
We shouldn't be that far behind.

1931
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:56,000
Unless there's a real, you know, maybe one position and maybe a high demand.

1932
02:29:56,000 --> 02:30:00,000
For example, building inspectors, a level three building inspectors.

1933
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,000
I kind of find a unicorn. They're very high demand that which has time was on that which will just keep kind of going up a little bit.

1934
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:15,000
You know, so that's sort of a market pressure, that's on one position that we not be the same as on other positions.

1935
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:24,000
So, but you know, you're like, you know, without that contingency built into the budget, I'm able to sort of retain those employees in each shirt that we're staying with, don't market comparators.

1936
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:31,000
So, that's the next market survey that's done. I don't want to come back in four years time to say, oh, look, we're 250,000 mark.

1937
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:34,000
We should have done that stuff over all of this.

1938
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:37,000
Yeah, that's a little mental to that.

1939
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:53,000
So, just also curious around, you know, you talk about merit-based salary increases. And so, I'm not sure if we as councilor allowed to know, just what

1940
02:30:53,000 --> 02:31:01,000
would constitute a merit-based increase. So, you know, you're using, like, a tangible scale.

1941
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:07,000
That's very objective versus, like, subjective, you know, the term, a unicorn.

1942
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:17,000
Yeah, I have a, I have a, we have a very extensive performance evaluation process where it's basically a three parties are involved in it.

1943
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:24,000
It's the employee, the supervisor and the director, I awarded the CAO. There's sort of three employees involved.

1944
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:29,000
It starts up with a self evaluation by the employee, the manager does the evaluation.

1945
02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:34,000
The director does the evaluation. It's bounced between the all those evaluations.

1946
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:39,000
And then they set smartphones, so they identified what's it going for the period of time.

1947
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:42,000
Is it achievable? How did you achieve that?

1948
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:49,000
And so, when you check off all those things, then you have, and I just brought it up.

1949
02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:50,000
Sort of look pages on.

1950
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:52,000
Think page 26.

1951
02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:59,000
Yes, there's expected good excellent and exceptional. And so at the end of that, there's a ranking basically based upon all that criteria.

1952
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:06,000
So, so this way, if an employee, you know, puts themselves really super high and the manager puts them really super low.

1953
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:13,000
You know, you're taking some of the biases out of there because the ex going to get opportunities in the middle, so if they're probably going to be expected.

1954
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:23,000
You have, and then with, with the director or the CAO, as well, doing that performance as well, then you're balancing out a one more level time.

1955
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:29,000
Then with the smart goals, they're really, you know, on average, we have four smart goals per a region period.

1956
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:38,000
They're very measurable because they're, you know, I'll use an example. I'll show you the example of the directors is here.

1957
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:43,000
You know, one of his miracles was to establish service level policies for his people.

1958
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:46,000
And so that either gets done or it's not done.

1959
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:47,000
Thank you.

1960
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:52,000
And so they're very measurable. They're not seductive for very effectively.

1961
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:55,000
And just when that's sorry.

1962
02:32:55,000 --> 02:33:00,000
I'm just I'm also curious around the update factor.

1963
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:07,000
And you talk to a little bit about needing to switch from 75% of CPI to 100%.

1964
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:17,000
But I'm also not understanding how the cost of living allowance, like why we don't use that versus CPI.

1965
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:23,000
I know they're kind of related, and I know that some industry looks at coolness.

1966
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:28,000
Some looks at CPI. So just, there's a number of different numbers.

1967
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:34,000
You know, like first, first off you got, so CPI and coal, I think, are the same thing.

1968
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:36,000
No, sort of that.

1969
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:38,000
A little different. Okay.

1970
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:39,000
Yeah.

1971
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:41,000
Can I help you?

1972
02:33:41,000 --> 02:33:42,000
Yeah.

1973
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:51,000
Yeah. So at the time, and this was the recommendation from staff in at the time was that we used the BC CPI and November to November numbers.

1974
02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:56,000
Because that's closest to the budget period. That's close. You know, free to inform him of that.

1975
02:33:56,000 --> 02:34:05,000
I'm not going to be able answer why that was his, you know, a hidden recommendation to use that much as coal or other data.

1976
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:11,000
And, you know, certainly give me something that Jacob and I can review to determine what is the best one to use.

1977
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:21,000
But at the end of the day, whatever number we choose to use, which by the way, I did find some consistency on BC CPI and other is what pulse is on the hunt.

1978
02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:23,000
But we can, we can review that.

1979
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:34,000
As long as there's consistency and whatever the number you're choosing isn't 75% off because whatever number you're using for that moving up.

1980
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:38,000
If you're only being a 75% of it, then you're not keeping people to that pace.

1981
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:45,000
Yes, that's the important part of the difference between the two I'm not sure why that was chosen.

1982
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:48,000
Oh, we have a hundred questions about me.

1983
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:49,000
I think that that's fine.

1984
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:50,000
I think that's a tough theory.

1985
02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:52,000
What's going on?

1986
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:55,000
Yeah, I'll keep my very focused.

1987
02:34:55,000 --> 02:35:03,000
The two exempt employees that are about the threshold or 60.

1988
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:07,000
And I'm the value of that gap.

1989
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:12,000
Was it offset against the shortfall of the others?

1990
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:16,000
Okay, so I'm really, they're, they're, they're, again, they're.

1991
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:18,000
I understand that.

1992
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:23,000
Are they red circle until they, they, they're the only grid catches up to that.

1993
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:26,000
Or I'm our day of going to always have that.

1994
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:28,000
Well, the grid contemplates people over.

1995
02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:31,000
So your grid goes up to 110%.

1996
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:35,000
Your merit, your APRP does contemplate.

1997
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:39,000
You know, performance increases for people that are over 100%.

1998
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:42,000
You know, for high exceptional performance.

1999
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:46,000
So basically, you're going to be in the exceptional range.

2000
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:49,000
So in other words, is that, but that's what you want from that employee.

2001
02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:51,000
You don't expect just a little extra effort.

2002
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:53,000
You try to pull a lot extra effort.

2003
02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:58,000
And, but they're, but for example, in the exceptional range, they're limited to a maximum to

2004
02:35:58,000 --> 02:35:59,000
percent of an increase.

2005
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:04,000
Whereas if you're at 85%, you know, when you're in exceptional range, you'd get up to 5%.

2006
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:08,000
And so it is, you know, that does provide a little bit of limiting.

2007
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:14,000
But you want them to still have incentive to show up and perform at a high level.

2008
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:18,000
And I really do believe all our staff do show up and perform at a high level.

2009
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:21,000
But our performance evaluation don't come back.

2010
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:23,000
And well, I think everybody's exceptional.

2011
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:29,000
And we're pretty conservative on handing out exceptions.

2012
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:30,000
Okay.

2013
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:32,000
So short answer is that it wasn't offset.

2014
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:33,000
I can see it in the way.

2015
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:35,000
So.

2016
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:36,000
Hmm.

2017
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:38,000
Any more questions?

2018
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:39,000
Okay.

2019
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:40,000
I have a couple of my sir.

2020
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:47,000
So first of all, one of the biggest factors that in this that it's hard to draw a comparison

2021
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:50,000
on is the difference in housing costs.

2022
02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:52,000
When you go from.

2023
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:57,000
Preston and to the average house cost and British Columbia, which is over 230,000 dollars

2024
02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:59,000
higher than a question.

2025
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:02,000
And then you have places like the URL, which is over.

2026
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:06,000
Posted to 750,000 dollars higher than a question.

2027
02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:09,000
You're trying to classify everybody in similar wage.

2028
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:15,000
And you know the cost of housing that we save thousands of dollars a month on mortgage payments.

2029
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:19,000
So when you draw that comparison, there's an advantage to living in

2030
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:20,000
Preston.

2031
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:24,000
That time should should be measured in dollar somehow.

2032
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:27,000
Because there's some in fair compensation.

2033
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:31,000
If one of our employees decided that one and move to view royal tomorrow.

2034
02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:34,000
Because they have a job that pays the same and the title is the same.

2035
02:37:34,000 --> 02:37:35,000
Yeah.

2036
02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:36,000
We cost the money.

2037
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:37,000
Yeah.

2038
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:41,000
In wages that they would have spent on housing would not make it feasible.

2039
02:37:41,000 --> 02:37:43,000
Assuming they don't have equity.

2040
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:45,000
And to me, they don't have equity credit.

2041
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:52,000
So I find a little difficult to draw comparisons between the different jobs and different communities

2042
02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:53,000
for that reason.

2043
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:57,000
Secondly, every one of these jobs has a job title.

2044
02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:59,000
We don't know if the job description is the same.

2045
02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:02,000
Because in some of those jobs, we look across positions.

2046
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:05,000
Some communities that fill more positions.

2047
02:38:05,000 --> 02:38:10,000
Some communities that fill two or three positions in across that range.

2048
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:14,000
So we, again, we don't know if those employees are doing comparable work for comparable

2049
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:18,000
because we don't, we're comparing job titles, but not job descriptions.

2050
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:26,000
So it's hard for me to draw what I would call a fair comparison across those communities to come up with the decision.

2051
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:31,000
And thirdly, when you look at the recruitment and retention.

2052
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:33,000
We have not perceived it to be a problem here.

2053
02:38:33,000 --> 02:38:37,000
It probably one of the reasons is our reasonable cost of housing here.

2054
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:40,000
And how much money that could potentially save somebody.

2055
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:48,000
So I have some difficulty with establishing a wage exactly by doing this comparison without

2056
02:38:48,000 --> 02:38:50,000
considering those factors are putting any weight on it.

2057
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:52,000
Because I see no weight on those comparisons.

2058
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:59,000
And when you look at the fact that 74% of our rate payers are residential.

2059
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:05,000
And on those, we have high percentage of them are elderly and in the fixed income.

2060
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:09,000
I have a hard time justifying this to people that are asking me,

2061
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:11,000
why are we paying them at these wages?

2062
02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:13,000
I'm not saying they don't deserve it.

2063
02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:15,000
I'm just saying I'm a comparison.

2064
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:19,000
I just don't have the correct waiting factors for me to say as a mayor.

2065
02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:21,000
Yep, this is the correct way to do it.

2066
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:23,000
I don't know how to fix that.

2067
02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:25,000
I don't know how you can answer that.

2068
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:30,000
But we're the ones that have to justify these wage increases and explain why we're doing what we're doing.

2069
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:33,000
And again, I believe in fair compensation.

2070
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:37,000
But I don't know if you consider it any weighting to this,

2071
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:42,000
whether this is actually the best plan for our, our town or our employees.

2072
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:47,000
And so I do have to state that because it concerns me very much.

2073
02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:50,000
No, that's fair, your first day was.

2074
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:54,000
Third, third survey in the last survey we did in this one as well as we did.

2075
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:56,000
Job matching.

2076
02:39:56,000 --> 02:40:01,000
They generally come back and it's hard to put weighting on not because.

2077
02:40:01,000 --> 02:40:06,000
Somebody taking off that they think that their job description matches ours is pretty subjective.

2078
02:40:06,000 --> 02:40:17,000
And so I didn't go into a great detail because there is one job that was matched and that I didn't, you know, that I from a CEO perspective, I didn't feel was a good match.

2079
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:22,000
But you know, so that's a very hard subjective thing to do and so really.

2080
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:31,000
The idea of this was to take some of that subjectivity out to me as broad as we possibly can in terms of, you know, that comparison.

2081
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:35,000
Again, I even looked at when you start pulling data out going to slow communities.

2082
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:37,000
You know, it's, it's.

2083
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:39,000
It's what the market is.

2084
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:44,000
You know, fair fair comment for the cost of living in places.

2085
02:40:44,000 --> 02:40:51,000
You know, there's, there's certainly, you know, for somebody that's young starting out that's certainly a fair statement to say that.

2086
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:54,000
You know, the cost of living would be higher with somebody with equity.

2087
02:40:54,000 --> 02:40:56,000
That may not be the same conversation.

2088
02:40:57,000 --> 02:41:04,000
You know, so I wouldn't want to, I'm not trying to second guess what our employees think or how they, they perceive things.

2089
02:41:04,000 --> 02:41:09,000
But, you know, I certainly have had conversations with staff like this as not.

2090
02:41:09,000 --> 02:41:12,000
You know, some of our staff know what the market is.

2091
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:14,000
And, you know, when they're.

2092
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:19,000
You know, I've been, I wouldn't want to discount them or what I want to say that they wouldn't.

2093
02:41:19,000 --> 02:41:24,000
You know, if you are, maybe that's a good example of where they wouldn't go, but.

2094
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:27,000
There's other may gather communities in there that they would.

2095
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:29,000
So, I'm not, I'm not sure.

2096
02:41:29,000 --> 02:41:31,000
I'll that sort of.

2097
02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:35,000
Play them people's perceptions for their desire.

2098
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:36,000
No, yeah.

2099
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:37,000
Yeah.

2100
02:41:37,000 --> 02:41:39,000
I just wanted to.

2101
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:40,000
I just wanted to.

2102
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:43,000
I go that I, I have the same question.

2103
02:41:43,000 --> 02:41:45,000
This is the man and the same concerns.

2104
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:49,000
And that I have to drop out of the meeting to go coach volleyball right now.

2105
02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:53,000
So I'll let you all take it from here.

2106
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:56,000
These, these likes.

2107
02:41:56,000 --> 02:42:01,000
How lucky.

2108
02:42:01,000 --> 02:42:04,000
The counselor home.

2109
02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:08,000
The one thing that I noticed in this list of communities.

2110
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:14,000
All, um, you know, they said there was only 19 communities that had their.

2111
02:42:14,000 --> 02:42:21,000
Pay scheduled available But communities that are near to our population.

2112
02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:29,000
population. There's only about a third of them. I don't know if you're increasing that at all would have a bit more of a public.

2113
02:42:29,000 --> 02:42:31,000
So understanding.

2114
02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:39,000
But we sent the survey up to all three by the municipalities. Those are the responses and some of them were validated with civic info to be other self-reported.

2115
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:41,000
Right. Which we sell for.

2116
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:53,000
Yeah. Oh. I mean, I feel like some of them. I did a quick just a look and smithers. For example, it's very close to our population. There's.

2117
02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:58,000
Sophie report does list all of their positions with the wages.

2118
02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:08,000
The jobs. Sort of an aid. This was trouble. This statement of financial information. For example, if you look at my salary. For example, the last two years.

2119
02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:23,000
Thank you.

2120
02:43:23,000 --> 02:43:25,000
Okay. Thank you.

2121
02:43:25,000 --> 02:43:28,000
It's so the issue is.

2122
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:30,000
We're ready to make this motion today.

2123
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:33,000
We want to defer another meeting to we want more information.

2124
02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:37,000
If there's a get. I do have.

2125
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:47,000
And we are getting to a budget time, where we are already tying up part of our budget with this, which is, again, it's fair to do.

2126
02:43:47,000 --> 02:43:49,000
But I'll be ready to do that.

2127
02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:51,000
And that's my question.

2128
02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:53,000
I could ask for a mover and a seconder.

2129
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:57,000
And if we get it, we can then discuss the actual motion.

2130
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:01,000
So I will do that. I'll read the motion help.

2131
02:44:01,000 --> 02:44:06,000
The motion is that the report title and boy compensation review of 2025 data.

2132
02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:10,000
Not 12 or 14. It's 2025 from the CAOB received.

2133
02:44:10,000 --> 02:44:12,000
Then Council approves the inclusion of this.

2134
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:14,000
Actually, two 168 or seven.

2135
02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:15,000
Correct.

2136
02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:16,000
That's the revised number.

2137
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:17,000
It says that.

2138
02:44:17,000 --> 02:44:18,000
Three 90s.

2139
02:44:18,000 --> 02:44:19,000
Eight 70s.

2140
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:20,000
Two 70s.

2141
02:44:20,000 --> 02:44:21,000
Two 70s.

2142
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:22,000
Eight.

2143
02:44:22,000 --> 02:44:23,000
Eight.

2144
02:44:23,000 --> 02:44:24,000
Eight.

2145
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:25,000
Eight.

2146
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:26,000
Eight.

2147
02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:27,000
Eight.

2148
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:28,000
Eight.

2149
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:29,000
Eight.

2150
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:30,000
Eight.

2151
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:31,000
One.

2152
02:44:31,000 --> 02:44:33,000
Two.

2153
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:35,000
Two.

2154
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:37,000
Two.

2155
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:38,000
Two.

2156
02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:39,000
Two.

2157
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:40,000
Five.

2158
02:44:40,000 --> 02:44:42,000
Two.

2159
02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:43,000
Two.

2160
02:44:43,000 --> 02:44:44,000
Three.

2161
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:45,000
Three.

2162
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:48,000
Three.

2163
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:49,000
Famous.

2164
02:44:49,000 --> 02:44:50,000
�staw.

2165
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:51,000
⯢ps.

2166
02:44:51,000 --> 02:44:53,000
ен.

2167
02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:54,000
Ordinary.

2168
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:55,000
Is.

2169
02:44:55,000 --> 02:44:56,000
Because it's okay.

2170
02:44:56,000 --> 02:45:00,000
a bit more than a landing, the update factor to much, we'll see you soon.

2171
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:24,000
MPI for deliberation, that allowed coming meeting of council, that council directs the chief and administrative officer to engage exact staff on considering non-monetary recognition to assist reducing future compensation increases, and further that council directs the chief and administrative officer to communicate the upcoming policy amendments and budget constraints to exact staff.

2172
02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:33,000
Do we have a more, will by council or do this? Second, if I'm councilor Baldwin, discussion on the motion.

2173
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:36,000
Councilor Hudson.

2174
02:45:36,000 --> 02:45:44,000
I think for myself, I'm a bit concerned about moving forward with the existing motion the way it is.

2175
02:45:44,000 --> 02:46:02,000
I personally feel that there is value in getting our employees all to that 20th or 60th percent algorithm, recognizing sure that some employees have been moved up from other roles.

2176
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:20,000
And so there's salary, maybe, didn't quite increase as much as to the new role, but I, I'm just concerned that, you know, we're potentially looking at sitting in 2029 if the will says that we're all sitting at this table.

2177
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:26,000
Looking at another chunk of employees sitting at the 60th percent, how that need to be moved up.

2178
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:47,000
And so seeing a plan that just gets, let's start there, and then has regular salary increases yearly along with merit-based increases, which can, you know, keep certain plays, meaning or exceeding expectations.

2179
02:46:47,000 --> 02:46:55,000
It seems like a better way to manage this from a tax purpose, it's more stable.

2180
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:59,000
I don't feel like this is stable.

2181
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:05,000
But I also feel like it's really important that we get our employees to that 60th percent algorithm.

2182
02:47:05,000 --> 02:47:16,000
I think this initial increase is really important to do, but we need to have a plan that doesn't keep seeing us dropping and having to do these big chunks of money.

2183
02:47:16,000 --> 02:47:22,000
To get our employees up there really quickly over and over.

2184
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:30,000
Yeah, I'm just wondering if this is something that can be done closer to budget time when we are looking at our next, like, your expenses.

2185
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:40,000
And so then when we look at that one, wait, for some tax increase, we can compare it with the other things that are happening that will also be like we don't know quite a few other things that will be coming up.

2186
02:47:40,000 --> 02:47:42,000
I think that's exactly exactly that.

2187
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:46,000
I'm just wondering if we have all the information at the table, or are you close to that?

2188
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:48,000
That's really, it's not.

2189
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:49,000
Yeah.

2190
02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:50,000
That's what we're doing.

2191
02:47:50,000 --> 02:47:51,000
Yeah, I agree.

2192
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:56,000
The answer is, in this motion, it's saying this will come back to us for budget.

2193
02:47:56,000 --> 02:47:59,000
And so then we can look at our full budget at that time.

2194
02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:06,000
And it also is saying it's going to come back to us for deliberation in an upcoming council meeting.

2195
02:48:06,000 --> 02:48:14,000
And so I'm happy to continue on with as as red with staff hearing the concerns.

2196
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:22,000
And bring to the more information to help us out into deliberating this forward.

2197
02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:24,000
I'll turn it over.

2198
02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:33,000
I think the thing for me that Chuck out was that it, it wraps everything into a large number that he's daunting.

2199
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:41,000
But if we were able to try to figure out either on a median or an average, what this actually means on a per employee.

2200
02:48:41,000 --> 02:48:47,000
I mean, if it's next year every employee on average is going to get $5,000 on it.

2201
02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:50,000
And the year after that they're going to get $5,000 on it.

2202
02:48:50,000 --> 02:48:54,000
That is actually a chunk that we can wrap our heads around.

2203
02:48:54,000 --> 02:49:03,000
But I can't, I mean, you know, when you're looking at 277,000 dollars over the three-year paper period, that's going to go up.

2204
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:09,000
You don't know whether or not that's realistic reasonable on a personal level on an employee level basis.

2205
02:49:09,000 --> 02:49:14,000
But I mean, if it was, it's going to go up 5,000 next year, 5,000 year after that.

2206
02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:17,000
And a couple of thousand dollars per employee after that.

2207
02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:19,000
It's more defensible.

2208
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:28,000
But right now, the people who live in town, who are making $20 dollars now are looking at holy crow.

2209
02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:30,000
This is a whole lot of money.

2210
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:34,000
It's a quarter million dollars over the next three years that it's going to go up by.

2211
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:36,000
That seems like a lot.

2212
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:39,000
And also being packed on taxes.

2213
02:49:39,000 --> 02:49:44,000
So if we see this again, perhaps that context would be a little bit more powerful.

2214
02:49:44,000 --> 02:49:46,000
It might be easier to understand.

2215
02:49:46,000 --> 02:49:52,000
Because right now, for just saying, it's going to go up by a quarter million dollars over three years that's.

2216
02:49:52,000 --> 02:50:02,000
It seems a little bit out of touch, a little tone of or the current market where we're talking with sessions, some of the other stuff.

2217
02:50:02,000 --> 02:50:04,000
I don't want to be in all of the year to be.

2218
02:50:04,000 --> 02:50:05,000
But I agree.

2219
02:50:05,000 --> 02:50:07,000
I'm really, really, really here.

2220
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:11,000
That was just the worst case scenario if you got everybody up.

2221
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:18,000
That some wasn't tied in months to talk to people to general with the actual cost as so I appreciate.

2222
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:24,000
You know, that concern is is it's not going to be everybody's gapped up to that 60% type.

2223
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:26,000
I've got every individual.

2224
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:27,000
Yeah.

2225
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:28,000
That's their own circumstance.

2226
02:50:28,000 --> 02:50:30,000
So it will be less than that number.

2227
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:33,000
It's just it's really when I put this together.

2228
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:36,000
And because we're heading to the budget, I need that direction that.

2229
02:50:36,000 --> 02:50:37,000
I can put that together.

2230
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:39,000
I still don't want to stop even if it.

2231
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:41,000
It has three quarters of that number.

2232
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:42,000
That's something.

2233
02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:43,000
It's still going to be surprised.

2234
02:50:43,000 --> 02:50:44,000
I'm going to shock everybody.

2235
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:46,000
So this is the sticker shop thing.

2236
02:50:46,000 --> 02:50:47,000
That's all.

2237
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:50,000
But we did have sticker shop in 2022 as well.

2238
02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:51,000
Did we not?

2239
02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:52,000
Was there not a big number?

2240
02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:53,000
There was a big number.

2241
02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:54,000
There was a big number.

2242
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:57,000
But again, we didn't actually fill that gap.

2243
02:50:57,000 --> 02:51:00,000
So if I went back and showed you exactly what that gap.

2244
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:03,000
We probably didn't even cut half of that.

2245
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:12,000
Because the individuals that were involved, you know, there was reason to teach them that certain wage scales versus going through the 70%

2246
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:16,000
Where it fell apart and it grew more was just quite simply.

2247
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:20,000
Not having that ability to move people up as they gain experience.

2248
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:25,000
So if somebody's brand new and that 80% off, or that 85% range.

2249
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:28,000
And we have no money to give them the marriage and it pretty soon.

2250
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:31,000
We only give them 75% of CPI.

2251
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:33,000
They're following that much farther behind us.

2252
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:34,000
The market keeps going.

2253
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:35,000
So.

2254
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:36,000
So.

2255
02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:37,000
So.

2256
02:51:37,000 --> 02:51:39,000
I wanted to just be very clear.

2257
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:41,000
We did not gap up on anyone thousand last time.

2258
02:51:41,000 --> 02:51:43,000
Not even close.

2259
02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:47,000
And I don't suspect that we'd be gapping about the whole entire number.

2260
02:51:47,000 --> 02:51:51,000
And so for example, that 60,000 number for building contingency.

2261
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:56,000
Like I said, that would be based taking the entire payroll and getting everybody 3% increase.

2262
02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:58,000
Probably not very realistic.

2263
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:03,000
Right, so again, but I needed to present something to be able to put context to where to run.

2264
02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:10,000
But I do think her employees expect a bit of an increase rate of in salary each year.

2265
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:12,000
Well, they're on for the update.

2266
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:14,000
Which is, yes, the CPI.

2267
02:52:14,000 --> 02:52:15,000
They're the folder.

2268
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:16,000
So maybe 5% of it.

2269
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:19,000
It's 70% it's it's the marriage increase.

2270
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:24,000
So if you're an 85% and you're a new employee in that physician.

2271
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:29,000
Only getting the update factor will never leave you closer to 100% rate.

2272
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:30,000
And that's the bite.

2273
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:33,000
That's the budget piece we get budget for to be able to keep you.

2274
02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:36,000
That's not your safe car.

2275
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:38,000
So I could call the question on this.

2276
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:41,000
Or we could ask for an amendment to the motion.

2277
02:52:41,000 --> 02:52:43,000
We've got to call the question.

2278
02:52:43,000 --> 02:52:45,000
I can just call the question.

2279
02:52:45,000 --> 02:52:47,000
No problem, question.

2280
02:52:47,000 --> 02:52:49,000
I'll in favor.

2281
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:50,000
I can't.

2282
02:52:50,000 --> 02:52:51,000
Three.

2283
02:52:51,000 --> 02:52:53,000
That motion is carry.

2284
02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:55,000
Right back.

2285
02:52:57,000 --> 02:52:58,000
Back.

2286
02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:02,000
And none of us are moving to a few row.

2287
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:03,000
It sounds bad.

2288
02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:04,000
No.

2289
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:05,000
No.

2290
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:06,000
Yeah.

2291
02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:10,000
I think it may have some influence on our budget deliberation.

2292
02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:12,000
When we say you hold another.

2293
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:15,000
And think we may have to decide not to do.

2294
02:53:15,000 --> 02:53:19,000
But I am in favor of our employees being fairly compensated.

2295
02:53:19,000 --> 02:53:20,000
Yeah.

2296
02:53:20,000 --> 02:53:21,000
Yeah.

2297
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:22,000
And there's certainly the methodology here.

2298
02:53:22,000 --> 02:53:23,000
Yes.

2299
02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:24,000
That's no question.

2300
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:26,000
Who finds training?

2301
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:29,000
And I do see a group going to tell us how much money we have.

2302
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:30,000
I'm not sure.

2303
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:31,000
I'm as you got.

2304
02:53:31,000 --> 02:53:32,000
It can find.

2305
02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:33,000
He doesn't know yet.

2306
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:34,000
He's gone here.

2307
02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:36,000
So let's move on to financing.

2308
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:39,000
The press for decision from the CA or regarding the third meeting.

2309
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:45,000
And adoption of permissive tax exception by law.

2310
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:48,000
Just I don't know if I'm going to come back.

2311
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:49,000
Cool.

2312
02:53:57,000 --> 02:54:02,000
So I think that well, this is just for the reports literally just for the adoption.

2313
02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:05,000
Third reading and adoption of the purpose of that exemption.

2314
02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:08,000
So you had this previous meeting.

2315
02:54:08,000 --> 02:54:09,000
You did two readings of it.

2316
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:11,000
There's been no changes to the dialogue.

2317
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:12,000
It's just presented.

2318
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:15,000
It's considered a herd of reading and adoption.

2319
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:16,000
Yep.

2320
02:54:16,000 --> 02:54:17,000
That's a lot.

2321
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:21,000
And I just asked a quick question.

2322
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:25,000
It talks about you qualified for up to 10 years.

2323
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:34,000
Are we at any of these listed entities that are tax exempt that are hitting their 10 years?

2324
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:35,000
And what happens to them?

2325
02:54:35,000 --> 02:54:37,000
And then I hit 10 years.

2326
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:43,000
Third answer question is, is that the legislation allows you to provide a tax exemption for

2327
02:54:43,000 --> 02:54:46,000
not actually 10 years in one by law.

2328
02:54:46,000 --> 02:54:47,000
Yeah.

2329
02:54:47,000 --> 02:54:49,000
So you can forever.

2330
02:54:49,000 --> 02:54:50,000
Yeah.

2331
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:52,000
But you can't do any more.

2332
02:54:52,000 --> 02:54:56,000
You can't do a single decision on the exemption that it seems 10 years.

2333
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:58,000
Well, we do a three year by law.

2334
02:54:58,000 --> 02:54:59,000
So it's every three years.

2335
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:00,000
Okay.

2336
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,000
But we don't track how long a person's a day.

2337
02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:03,000
We don't.

2338
02:55:03,000 --> 02:55:04,000
Time out into.

2339
02:55:04,000 --> 02:55:05,000
No.

2340
02:55:05,000 --> 02:55:06,000
That's it.

2341
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:07,000
Only one.

2342
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:09,000
You can only have a by law for a British attack.

2343
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:10,000
That's it.

2344
02:55:10,000 --> 02:55:11,000
That's it.

2345
02:55:11,000 --> 02:55:12,000
Okay.

2346
02:55:12,000 --> 02:55:13,000
Good question.

2347
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:14,000
Okay.

2348
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:15,000
Which.

2349
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:18,000
Motion is that the report title.

2350
02:55:18,000 --> 02:55:19,000
Mr. Taxes.

2351
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:20,000
Motion by number two.

2352
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:21,000
Zero four.

2353
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:22,000
Two zero or two.

2354
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,000
Twenty twenty five.

2355
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:24,000
Data on total 14.

2356
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:25,000
Twenty twenty five.

2357
02:55:25,000 --> 02:55:26,000
You can see.

2358
02:55:26,000 --> 02:55:27,000
You'll be received.

2359
02:55:27,000 --> 02:55:28,000
And further.

2360
02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:29,000
That permission.

2361
02:55:29,000 --> 02:55:30,000
That exemption by law.

2362
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:31,000
Two zero or two.

2363
02:55:31,000 --> 02:55:32,000
Twenty.

2364
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:33,000
Three zero.

2365
02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:34,000
Fifteen.

2366
02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:35,000
One score.

2367
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:36,000
Twenty.

2368
02:55:36,000 --> 02:55:37,000
Five.

2369
02:55:37,000 --> 02:55:38,000
Twenty.

2370
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:40,000
Twenty.

2371
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:41,000
One score.

2372
02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:42,000
Twenty.

2373
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:44,000
A seven minus.

2374
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:46,000
A seven, a seven.

2375
02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:47,000
Four.

2376
02:55:47,000 --> 02:55:48,000
I see.

2377
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:50,000
Two.

2378
02:55:50,000 --> 02:55:51,000
So it amounts.

2379
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:52,000
shock.

2380
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:55,000
Thirty.

2381
02:55:55,000 --> 02:55:56,000
Thirty.

2382
02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:58,000
Number.

2383
02:55:58,000 --> 02:56:06,000
motion to adopt the protection by the number 204 to motion to

2384
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:09,000
fems of areas, second and third and third.

2385
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:13,000
Baldwin on the favor, which means carry will move on to

2386
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:15,000
community services request for decision to move

2387
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:19,000
to community services regarding building applications

2388
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:22,000
service level policy should be building permit for building

2389
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,000
application.

2390
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:32,000
We've invested with the development application

2391
02:56:32,000 --> 02:56:37,000
policy which is to not be using with the

2392
02:56:37,000 --> 02:56:40,000
development of applications,

2393
02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:43,000
course on the very interest.

2394
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:49,000
So what we have here is in order to remember

2395
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:56,000
reasons why we need service level policies.

2396
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:59,000
Essentially to define our processing timelines for building

2397
02:56:59,000 --> 02:57:04,000
permit applications as well as to set a level of,

2398
02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:06,000
you know, we're going to respond to you within this

2399
02:57:06,000 --> 02:57:09,000
period of time as far as infections go.

2400
02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:13,000
The manager building in by one, I worked through a

2401
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:16,000
service level policy which essentially gives 20 days

2402
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:20,000
business days to get a building permit.

2403
02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:22,000
It's like a little bit.

2404
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:25,000
And the three days for building inspections to

2405
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:28,000
community back these coming up.

2406
02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:32,000
If you recall the one that I brought forward last year for

2407
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:38,000
development, it's a very close year of that just

2408
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:42,000
that building.

2409
02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:46,000
So our regulation is to adopt it.

2410
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:48,000
I'm sorry.

2411
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:51,000
I have a quick question.

2412
02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:55,000
So like there can be reasons why there's delays.

2413
02:57:55,000 --> 02:57:58,000
And often that's because the application isn't

2414
02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:00,000
clearly enough conceited.

2415
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:03,000
So do we.

2416
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:07,000
Is there strategy for people submitting

2417
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:10,000
applications to make sure they're fully submitting

2418
02:58:10,000 --> 02:58:12,000
all the information so that they're not

2419
02:58:12,000 --> 02:58:15,000
perceiving that there are great big delays

2420
02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:18,000
in getting their application approved.

2421
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:19,000
Yes.

2422
02:58:19,000 --> 02:58:22,000
So I mean, and that's part of where we know we are working on

2423
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:25,000
our, I did our building by the, for example.

2424
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:28,000
So having a very clearly outlined them once

2425
02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:32,000
expected is certainly helps with that.

2426
02:58:32,000 --> 02:58:35,000
There's times that we might think that an

2427
02:58:35,000 --> 02:58:39,000
application has everything it needs to and we don't find

2428
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:41,000
and we don't really get into it.

2429
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:43,000
That's always saying this piece or that piece.

2430
02:58:43,000 --> 02:58:47,000
So there there are always going to be surprises in looking

2431
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:50,000
through any or could burn this so we work with.

2432
02:58:50,000 --> 02:58:54,000
So but I think it's just the communication piece and make sure

2433
02:58:54,000 --> 02:58:57,000
that our building by the laws and policies are clear.

2434
02:58:57,000 --> 02:59:00,000
Now the 20 days certainly builds in the buffer

2435
02:59:00,000 --> 02:59:04,000
with lawful in takes.

2436
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:08,000
But if it's easy, you might get up to that level.

2437
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:13,000
But if it's, you know, standard, you might be at a couple of weeks.

2438
02:59:13,000 --> 02:59:15,000
And it's just really nothing else coming on.

2439
02:59:15,000 --> 02:59:17,000
You know, you can have your program for a week.

2440
02:59:17,000 --> 02:59:20,000
So it's really the high end level.

2441
02:59:20,000 --> 02:59:22,000
And so if we start slipping below that, you know,

2442
02:59:22,000 --> 02:59:27,000
that's going to start having conversations with both the staff.

2443
02:59:27,000 --> 02:59:30,000
And then, you know, and continues with council rights.

2444
02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:32,000
And look at the service levels.

2445
02:59:32,000 --> 02:59:33,000
Is this something to bash for?

2446
02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:35,000
Go there too.

2447
02:59:35,000 --> 02:59:36,000
Okay.

2448
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:38,000
I guess I can read the motion.

2449
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:42,000
And at the report title on all of the SCRs,

2450
02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:46,000
as Sharon zero, five dash zero zero, two building applications.

2451
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:51,000
So this level data level 1425 from the Director of Community Service will be

2452
02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:52,000
received.

2453
02:59:52,000 --> 02:59:55,000
And further, that council adopts that same.

2454
02:59:55,000 --> 02:59:58,000
But not a policy.

2455
02:59:58,000 --> 02:59:59,000
I'm sure I'm holding.

2456
02:59:59,000 --> 03:00:00,000
Section cultural area.

2457
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:12,000
Please, discussion, all in favor. We should be carried. And actually, we have a request for a decision regarding official community plan amendment, file off.

2458
03:00:12,000 --> 03:00:21,000
I want to spend too much sun getting into this one. You were, it was last meeting on the one before.

2459
03:00:21,000 --> 03:00:30,000
I would put this into detail. But essentially, bill 44, the provincial housing statutes, several 31sts, our deadline for OCP.

2460
03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:41,000
Visual community plan changes to meet the targets that they set out and meet our housing goals as in our housing units report.

2461
03:00:41,000 --> 03:00:51,000
You know, the good news, which was we indicated you for is that we're, you know, well situated as far as available land that is selling for housing.

2462
03:00:51,000 --> 03:00:58,000
In our residential areas, it's three or four times higher than what we actually are required to have by the province.

2463
03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:10,000
So really the OCP amendments focused around just enabling that that atmosphere or that providing enabling policies for the community to proceed in that direction.

2464
03:01:12,000 --> 03:01:18,000
So we had the dwelling unit projections that were included on our map, designations, new to the base.

2465
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:27,000
And, yeah, new policies specifically are on affordable rentals, special needs and scenarios and housing, your transportation and homelessness.

2466
03:01:27,000 --> 03:01:31,000
And now the production.

2467
03:01:31,000 --> 03:01:35,000
And it's, we're on to our person second ratings and that is.

2468
03:01:35,000 --> 03:01:40,000
It'll have to go to public hearing. So that'll come next.

2469
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:43,000
The question.

2470
03:01:43,000 --> 03:01:49,000
I know will you ask something on this and it's some housing policies that are best of quality.

2471
03:01:49,000 --> 03:01:54,000
We have a list there including homelessness and risk of homelessness.

2472
03:01:54,000 --> 03:02:00,000
And all it says that we can, we give our policies. It doesn't say what, so it says what are your policies.

2473
03:02:00,000 --> 03:02:11,000
We could say, well, the Bible enables us to develop the policies. That's basically practically the point is that our policy on the right, the social housing.

2474
03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:15,000
Side of things is do encourage nonprofit development of these things.

2475
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:17,000
As opposed to.

2476
03:02:17,000 --> 03:02:20,000
There's not so.

2477
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:23,000
It came up with a coffee talk as well.

2478
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:26,000
The language in there is not precise.

2479
03:02:26,000 --> 03:02:29,000
It's not intentional in a way where we need a plan.

2480
03:02:29,000 --> 03:02:32,000
Because you don't want to let yourself to a specific direction.

2481
03:02:32,000 --> 03:02:35,000
You want to maintain us as the organization.

2482
03:02:35,000 --> 03:02:37,000
The ability to be flexible.

2483
03:02:37,000 --> 03:02:40,000
If you're timing an execution of policies.

2484
03:02:40,000 --> 03:02:45,000
Which is why, for example, you do all this work on land use designations.

2485
03:02:45,000 --> 03:02:49,000
And then you still have the zoning by that goes into greater detail.

2486
03:02:49,000 --> 03:02:51,000
So it's a overarching framework.

2487
03:02:51,000 --> 03:03:01,000
And then you know, find the best fit with the OCP to other policies in violence.

2488
03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:06,000
The motion is accounts and receives the October 14, 2025 request for decision.

2489
03:03:06,000 --> 03:03:15,000
I will OCP amendment by line number two zero or one twenty twenty five first and second meetings with the grant of community services.

2490
03:03:15,000 --> 03:03:20,000
And further that official community plan amendment by line number two zero or one.

2491
03:03:20,000 --> 03:03:21,000
Twenty twenty five.

2492
03:03:21,000 --> 03:03:24,000
You read the first time by title second time by content.

2493
03:03:24,000 --> 03:03:25,000
Motion two.

2494
03:03:25,000 --> 03:03:26,000
Traduce.

2495
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:30,000
Second council volume discussion on favor.

2496
03:03:30,000 --> 03:03:32,000
That motion is carried.

2497
03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:34,000
Moving on.

2498
03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:35,000
You.

2499
03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:36,000
Question for.

2500
03:03:36,000 --> 03:03:37,000
I'm.

2501
03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:40,000
I'm working sponsorship for how we music event.

2502
03:03:40,000 --> 03:03:45,000
So this is the one to the party in the park that we had earlier.

2503
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:46,000
It's spring here.

2504
03:03:47,000 --> 03:03:48,000
St. gentlemen.

2505
03:03:48,000 --> 03:03:52,000
And he says came for council sponsorship and amount of $1.00 dollars.

2506
03:03:52,000 --> 03:03:54,000
We'll take the report of booking fees.

2507
03:03:54,000 --> 03:03:57,000
He's posting a.

2508
03:03:57,000 --> 03:03:59,000
All the way to music event.

2509
03:03:59,000 --> 03:04:01,000
All the way like five to nine.

2510
03:04:01,000 --> 03:04:04,000
And free admission and all that.

2511
03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:07,000
They do all the way up and everything out to us to.

2512
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:09,000
So.

2513
03:04:09,000 --> 03:04:10,000
Yeah.

2514
03:04:10,000 --> 03:04:14,000
Our recommendation is to go for but I don't know what's in your sponsorship.

2515
03:04:15,000 --> 03:04:16,000
Yeah.

2516
03:04:16,000 --> 03:04:18,000
That's about $700 in the advertising.

2517
03:04:18,000 --> 03:04:20,000
I'm getting the year and.

2518
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:21,000
Yeah.

2519
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:24,000
And so the motion is a council received this report.

2520
03:04:24,000 --> 03:04:25,000
Kind of an open.

2521
03:04:25,000 --> 03:04:26,000
That park.

2522
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:27,000
Okay.

2523
03:04:27,000 --> 03:04:28,000
Sponsorship request for information.

2524
03:04:28,000 --> 03:04:30,000
The further the council authorized the sponsorship.

2525
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:32,000
But the Halloween party in the amount of.

2526
03:04:32,000 --> 03:04:36,000
One hundred dollars to be allocated from the council advertising.

2527
03:04:36,000 --> 03:04:37,000
Okay.

2528
03:04:37,000 --> 03:04:38,000
You moved to council.

2529
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:40,000
So.

2530
03:04:40,000 --> 03:04:43,000
esque.

2531
03:04:43,000 --> 03:04:45,000
Please.

2532
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:52,000
We call you up to the council for ballroom and second by council hallinal.

2533
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:53,000
that question or favor.

2534
03:04:53,000 --> 03:04:56,000
motion is carried and that wasn't clear there if we.

2535
03:04:56,000 --> 03:04:59,000
You have the ability to just Do weight the hundred.

2536
03:04:59,000 --> 03:05:03,000
Our feet.

2537
03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:04,000
Do you do not have the ability to weight it's.

2538
03:05:04,000 --> 03:05:07,000
None of my topic.

2539
03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:12,440
things in your service or your right way but you can include specific things as

2540
03:05:12,440 --> 03:05:17,480
exceptions in your use in your service but no it'd be hard for you to release something

2541
03:05:17,480 --> 03:05:23,400
yes yeah it's true but it could be that you could have more exceptions than that

2542
03:05:23,400 --> 03:05:33,400
than you do right we cost less just to donate a hundred oh my god they were there this request

2543
03:05:33,400 --> 03:05:37,480
footage from the director of community services regarding well chp is only one of the

2544
03:05:37,480 --> 03:05:45,400
fileness of the event was very early on but 60 20 put rolled in 16 20 hello this is the

2545
03:05:47,160 --> 03:05:51,480
spawn and and and and and and and the

2546
03:05:53,480 --> 03:06:00,600
biggest is it's everything property so this is this is presenting the

2547
03:06:00,600 --> 03:06:06,200
the by a lot of package for this is final proof the official community plan and by a lot of

2548
03:06:06,200 --> 03:06:12,040
design by a lot of sort of their option at first point use in the both number of times and

2549
03:06:13,080 --> 03:06:17,880
bill of variance permit referencing the the covenant which is now registered on title

2550
03:06:20,040 --> 03:06:24,920
yeah so I think the important thing is that this development permit for the bill of variance permit

2551
03:06:25,720 --> 03:06:32,760
varies the worst in service as a by-law to allow for a fire flow for the commercial value from 150

2552
03:06:32,760 --> 03:06:40,600
liters a second as it is now to be 82 liters per second as it is a suitable system and the

2553
03:06:40,600 --> 03:06:48,840
covenant limits the development to them was appropriate with those fire flows maybe into this one

2554
03:06:48,840 --> 03:06:54,440
provides some time you I think we're familiar enough now to make the next take the next step here

2555
03:06:54,440 --> 03:07:02,360
and that's that the total 14 20 25 report title 16 20 what rolled by laws adoption and dvp approval

2556
03:07:02,360 --> 03:07:06,680
from the director of community service and we've received and further that the official community plan

2557
03:07:06,680 --> 03:07:14,600
amendment by a lot of the two zero three seven 20 25 be adopted usual two by counselor often second

2558
03:07:14,600 --> 03:07:22,440
counselor Holland discussion all those in favor or should is carrying and next is the amendment by

2559
03:07:22,440 --> 03:07:29,880
number two zero three eight twenty twenty five four is option but she's not the same by-law is there

2560
03:07:29,880 --> 03:07:36,600
city different what's this for now this is a different by-law from all your discipline yep we didn't know

2561
03:07:36,600 --> 03:07:42,280
what it was so no no that's no information with it that was the way that I was questioned

2562
03:07:43,000 --> 03:07:46,040
it's just

2563
03:07:46,040 --> 03:07:52,920
like it was a little hit that's what we just don't know

2564
03:07:52,920 --> 03:07:58,680
again and I can tell you exactly but it's near yes it's one off of the law I mean you're just

2565
03:07:58,680 --> 03:08:04,920
sort of giving them it if you don't have it in your day so the amendments are too

2566
03:08:04,920 --> 03:08:11,960
exclusively abings on and that to the reason the proper even 16 20 the road from

2567
03:08:11,960 --> 03:08:20,760
as a job in our department commercial with it and it's a virtual neighborhood zone and

2568
03:08:21,800 --> 03:08:28,600
to amend the principal uses of that zone to include indoor recreation and retail specific to the

2569
03:08:28,600 --> 03:08:35,240
property located at 16 20-hood road located at the description

2570
03:08:35,240 --> 03:08:40,600
I wouldn't want to hurt actually I was just about to back in some of the way that the only amendment by

2571
03:08:40,600 --> 03:08:46,200
number two zero three eight twenty twenty five be adopted an ocean by counselor in part in second

2572
03:08:46,200 --> 03:08:55,320
and by counselor it was John and I'll favor that was you but I'm about to adopt it and do this again

2573
03:08:55,320 --> 03:09:07,400
and is this one also so see you in the next one is it is it is

2574
03:09:09,720 --> 03:09:17,320
I mean the director of community services regard I'm getting I'm getting

2575
03:09:25,320 --> 03:09:32,320
version. Yeah, it just has a weird being approved. But we should know that quite a number.

2576
03:09:32,320 --> 03:09:36,320
It is listed in the original option of the first document.

2577
03:09:36,320 --> 03:09:38,320
It is.

2578
03:09:38,320 --> 03:09:40,320
Yes, I'm going to answer it.

2579
03:09:40,320 --> 03:09:43,320
I'm going to answer it.

2580
03:09:43,320 --> 03:09:45,320
Okay.

2581
03:09:45,320 --> 03:09:49,320
There's a long way to go with that, but I think that is.

2582
03:09:49,320 --> 03:09:52,320
There's no, there's no this. If you're worshiped, you just need to build your

2583
03:09:52,320 --> 03:09:53,320
research.

2584
03:09:53,320 --> 03:09:54,320
Yeah.

2585
03:09:54,320 --> 03:09:56,320
Well, we'll make the motion that you've opened.

2586
03:09:56,320 --> 03:09:57,320
Very, very primitive.

2587
03:09:57,320 --> 03:09:59,320
I'm going to divide that shell to be approved.

2588
03:09:59,320 --> 03:10:02,320
Because it has had to be this reading.

2589
03:10:02,320 --> 03:10:03,320
Yeah.

2590
03:10:03,320 --> 03:10:04,320
Yeah.

2591
03:10:04,320 --> 03:10:05,320
Yeah.

2592
03:10:05,320 --> 03:10:06,320
Then I see.

2593
03:10:06,320 --> 03:10:07,320
Okay.

2594
03:10:07,320 --> 03:10:08,320
It's the adopted group.

2595
03:10:08,320 --> 03:10:09,320
It's a second group.

2596
03:10:09,320 --> 03:10:10,320
It's a second group.

2597
03:10:10,320 --> 03:10:11,320
This is also the group.

2598
03:10:11,320 --> 03:10:12,320
Okay.

2599
03:10:12,320 --> 03:10:13,320
Yes.

2600
03:10:13,320 --> 03:10:15,320
Well, we can do this all the time.

2601
03:10:15,320 --> 03:10:16,320
Oh, yeah.

2602
03:10:16,320 --> 03:10:18,320
You added a text to your report.

2603
03:10:18,320 --> 03:10:19,320
So we go on that.

2604
03:10:19,320 --> 03:10:20,320
Yeah.

2605
03:10:20,320 --> 03:10:21,320
Yeah.

2606
03:10:21,320 --> 03:10:22,320
Okay.

2607
03:10:22,320 --> 03:10:23,320
So the year.

2608
03:10:23,320 --> 03:10:24,320
Okay.

2609
03:10:24,320 --> 03:10:25,320
The year motion for the only amendment.

2610
03:10:25,320 --> 03:10:26,320
I was already there.

2611
03:10:26,320 --> 03:10:27,320
Got that.

2612
03:10:27,320 --> 03:10:28,320
So yeah.

2613
03:10:28,320 --> 03:10:29,320
I just wanted a seconder.

2614
03:10:29,320 --> 03:10:30,320
Mm-hmm.

2615
03:10:30,320 --> 03:10:34,320
I'll serve all the second, like, down to the bottom of the fair.

2616
03:10:34,320 --> 03:10:35,320
Yeah.

2617
03:10:35,320 --> 03:10:36,320
What was your news carried?

2618
03:10:36,320 --> 03:10:38,320
So now that should put the bed.

2619
03:10:38,320 --> 03:10:39,320
I'd rather.

2620
03:10:39,320 --> 03:10:40,320
I don't know.

2621
03:10:40,320 --> 03:10:41,320
I get.

2622
03:10:41,320 --> 03:10:42,320
I'm embarrassed for you.

2623
03:10:42,320 --> 03:10:43,320
We sit down.

2624
03:10:43,320 --> 03:10:44,320
I don't know.

2625
03:10:44,320 --> 03:10:45,320
I don't know.

2626
03:10:45,320 --> 03:10:46,320
You'll go there.

2627
03:10:46,320 --> 03:10:47,320
Yeah.

2628
03:10:47,320 --> 03:10:48,320
These do.

2629
03:10:48,320 --> 03:10:50,320
Uh, they don't use that well.

2630
03:10:51,320 --> 03:10:52,320
Are you using it?

2631
03:10:52,320 --> 03:10:53,320
So you can sit it run away.

2632
03:10:53,320 --> 03:10:54,320
You know.

2633
03:10:54,320 --> 03:10:55,320
It's a little bit.

2634
03:10:55,320 --> 03:10:56,320
Yeah.

2635
03:10:56,320 --> 03:10:58,320
You press for decision regarding the press and value.

2636
03:10:58,320 --> 03:11:00,320
Our court run away and extension.

2637
03:11:00,320 --> 03:11:03,320
That's from the director of community services as well.

2638
03:11:03,320 --> 03:11:04,320
I believe.

2639
03:11:04,320 --> 03:11:05,320
No.

2640
03:11:05,320 --> 03:11:06,320
No.

2641
03:11:06,320 --> 03:11:07,320
Pat the baton.

2642
03:11:07,320 --> 03:11:08,320
Pat the baton.

2643
03:11:08,320 --> 03:11:09,320
Pat the baton.

2644
03:11:09,320 --> 03:11:10,320
Pat the baton.

2645
03:11:10,320 --> 03:11:11,320
Pat the baton.

2646
03:11:11,320 --> 03:11:12,320
Pat the baton.

2647
03:11:12,320 --> 03:11:13,320
It's already.

2648
03:11:13,320 --> 03:11:15,320
Just work for all the general.

2649
03:11:15,320 --> 03:11:17,320
So I'll try to keep the really, really brief.

2650
03:11:17,320 --> 03:11:19,320
It's hopefully not as complicated as the report.

2651
03:11:19,320 --> 03:11:21,320
So it needs to sound.

2652
03:11:21,320 --> 03:11:22,320
But.

2653
03:11:22,320 --> 03:11:25,320
So long and short of it is that.

2654
03:11:25,320 --> 03:11:26,320
Um.

2655
03:11:26,320 --> 03:11:28,320
We did the airport master.

2656
03:11:28,320 --> 03:11:32,320
I identified in there was the need to extend the runway.

2657
03:11:32,320 --> 03:11:33,320
Um.

2658
03:11:33,320 --> 03:11:36,320
You know, and that was in the 10 year horizon.

2659
03:11:36,320 --> 03:11:38,320
Well, within the next 10 years.

2660
03:11:38,320 --> 03:11:39,320
Um.

2661
03:11:39,320 --> 03:11:41,320
One of the things though is that the.

2662
03:11:41,320 --> 03:11:45,320
Contractor for Carson or the contract for BC.

2663
03:11:45,320 --> 03:11:59,320
Is operating their plan needs under operating to a larger plane that can't land or exist from so while we don't know the timeframe that that will entirely take place I'm going to assume that's going to take place over that year or two with three.

2664
03:11:59,320 --> 03:12:01,320
Um, but you don't want to wait until they replaced other planes.

2665
03:12:01,320 --> 03:12:03,320
They just don't land things.

2666
03:12:03,320 --> 03:12:04,320
So.

2667
03:12:04,320 --> 03:12:05,320
Um.

2668
03:12:05,320 --> 03:12:08,320
Um.

2669
03:12:08,320 --> 03:12:12,320
only thing that we have that we can apply for annually is the B.C. Air Access Program.

2670
03:12:12,320 --> 03:12:15,320
It opens every November to December.

2671
03:12:15,320 --> 03:12:19,320
So what we're going to be able to do is get that in for grants,

2672
03:12:19,320 --> 03:12:22,320
consideration as a shovel ready project to do that.

2673
03:12:22,320 --> 03:12:26,320
We need to get engineering, engineering and costing time.

2674
03:12:26,320 --> 03:12:29,320
We don't have time between now,

2675
03:12:29,320 --> 03:12:33,320
but to get that done, to seek the approval from the regional district or work out.

2676
03:12:33,320 --> 03:12:37,320
I still have to get an agreement with the regional district for the service,

2677
03:12:37,320 --> 03:12:39,320
funding and asset management.

2678
03:12:39,320 --> 03:12:41,320
They go whole big piece that has to be done.

2679
03:12:41,320 --> 03:12:43,320
But not to delay this.

2680
03:12:43,320 --> 03:12:47,320
What we're suggesting is that we just guaranteed that we're going to fund the $40,000

2681
03:12:47,320 --> 03:12:48,320
that's our asset.

2682
03:12:48,320 --> 03:12:53,320
I will work at trying to get the money cost recovered from the shared service.

2683
03:12:53,320 --> 03:12:57,320
There's also an opportunity to apply for a grant to the community

2684
03:12:57,320 --> 03:13:02,320
directed funds, which we can get some of the money back through the regional

2685
03:13:02,320 --> 03:13:03,320
electric outlet.

2686
03:13:03,320 --> 03:13:07,320
But just on the short period of time that we have,

2687
03:13:07,320 --> 03:13:10,320
we need to get HMRA working on the engineering,

2688
03:13:10,320 --> 03:13:11,320
it's impossible.

2689
03:13:11,320 --> 03:13:14,320
So really the report is really the simplicity of it is.

2690
03:13:14,320 --> 03:13:16,320
We just need council to approve the $40,000.

2691
03:13:16,320 --> 03:13:19,320
Yes, there's a risk we may not get that money back.

2692
03:13:19,320 --> 03:13:24,320
We can capture that within our capital and operate much of this year.

2693
03:13:24,320 --> 03:13:29,320
Under budget for some of the savings we've had through the year.

2694
03:13:29,320 --> 03:13:33,320
So $40,000, if we didn't recover it, it's not like we're going to be able to

2695
03:13:33,320 --> 03:13:35,320
budget or something.

2696
03:13:35,320 --> 03:13:39,320
But we won't be able to access the air access fund,

2697
03:13:39,320 --> 03:13:43,320
which is saying that no, we need to be able to apply for it.

2698
03:13:43,320 --> 03:13:45,320
First week, it opens.

2699
03:13:45,320 --> 03:13:47,320
First week in November closed has been December.

2700
03:13:47,320 --> 03:13:49,320
We need this engineering.

2701
03:13:49,320 --> 03:13:52,320
But I miss something in terms of it.

2702
03:13:52,320 --> 03:13:54,320
Yeah, we need this to apply for it.

2703
03:13:54,320 --> 03:13:55,320
That's it.

2704
03:13:55,320 --> 03:13:56,320
Yeah.

2705
03:13:56,320 --> 03:13:57,320
I didn't accept.

2706
03:13:57,320 --> 03:13:58,320
I can't read the motion.

2707
03:13:58,320 --> 03:14:00,320
Then the report title funding.

2708
03:14:00,320 --> 03:14:02,320
The engineering cost of runway extension data.

2709
03:14:02,320 --> 03:14:07,320
So 14.25 on the CA will be received.

2710
03:14:07,320 --> 03:14:11,320
That council authorizes staff to engage in HMRA.

2711
03:14:11,320 --> 03:14:16,320
We provide preliminary engineering design and cost that to meeting services for the extension.

2712
03:14:16,320 --> 03:14:18,320
Runway 15.

2713
03:14:18,320 --> 03:14:19,320
33.

2714
03:14:19,320 --> 03:14:24,320
And preparation on turning base that the runway at runway 15.

2715
03:14:24,320 --> 03:14:25,320
33 thresholds.

2716
03:14:25,320 --> 03:14:28,320
For the estimated cost of $40,000 in $50.

2717
03:14:28,320 --> 03:14:32,320
And further that council direct staff to request cost recovery.

2718
03:14:32,320 --> 03:14:36,320
In the regional district of central put the service to 40.

2719
03:14:36,320 --> 03:14:39,320
They're part best in areas B and C in area A.

2720
03:14:39,320 --> 03:14:43,320
For the preliminary engineering design and cost-nastimating services.

2721
03:14:43,320 --> 03:14:45,320
Motion to come to Holland.

2722
03:14:45,320 --> 03:14:46,320
That can come to Baldwin.

2723
03:14:46,320 --> 03:14:49,320
Scussion on favor.

2724
03:14:49,320 --> 03:14:51,320
Motion is carried.

2725
03:14:51,320 --> 03:14:54,320
And if we don't do it, there's things that's taken view.

2726
03:14:54,320 --> 03:14:55,320
And if we don't do it, there's things that's taken view.

2727
03:14:55,320 --> 03:14:56,320
Turned out.

2728
03:14:56,320 --> 03:14:58,320
That was good to hear.

2729
03:14:58,320 --> 03:15:00,320
So that's a good one.

2730
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:07,040
Thank you, Services. We've got forward decision regarding UBCM, community, emergency preparedness, fund,

2731
03:15:07,040 --> 03:15:09,840
yes, that's a quick and training recommendation.

2732
03:15:09,840 --> 03:15:17,840
Yeah, so we are in partnership with the regional district for yes-ass, which is emergency support services.

2733
03:15:17,840 --> 03:15:23,600
So they provide services to individuals that may have experienced a disaster. It can be a house fire,

2734
03:15:23,600 --> 03:15:33,360
so they're displaced, it could be a flood, it could be a number of things. And so this program is volunteer-based,

2735
03:15:33,360 --> 03:15:38,640
and it does require some, you know, it made work and some bigger ship and some management to it.

2736
03:15:38,640 --> 03:15:42,560
And so the regional district is just asking for support, you know, applying for a grant,

2737
03:15:43,360 --> 03:15:50,560
to be able to, you know, hire a part-time coordinator, you know, and just engage more in the communities

2738
03:15:50,560 --> 03:15:55,680
with recruitment and retention and just to make the program more robust across the region.

2739
03:15:58,640 --> 03:16:00,080
Well, that's it.

2740
03:16:00,080 --> 03:16:00,880
Thank you. Any questions?

2741
03:16:02,640 --> 03:16:05,360
Hearing none, I will read the motion that council approves,

2742
03:16:05,360 --> 03:16:07,360
we'll use a different set for committee.

2743
03:16:07,360 --> 03:16:12,080
To apply forward, we see a big message to UBCM, community emergency preparedness,

2744
03:16:12,080 --> 03:16:16,640
fund, ESS, equipment, training grant, funding, and behalf of the council.

2745
03:16:16,800 --> 03:16:20,640
Or should do council areas, second, the council of dualists, discussion,

2746
03:16:20,640 --> 03:16:27,520
non-favorite, or should be scary, and it's able to through recommendations to the committee in the home.

2747
03:16:27,520 --> 03:16:33,200
And the recommendation number one and two, the regular committee at the home held on September

2748
03:16:33,200 --> 03:16:40,640
60, 2020, 25 be adopted as follows. Number one that council receives is September 16, 2025 council

2749
03:16:40,640 --> 03:16:46,080
direction request panel, OCP, and total amendments, which are legislative requirements from the

2750
03:16:46,080 --> 03:16:52,160
director of community services for information. The council direct staff to proceed with public consultation

2751
03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:59,840
and referrals is outlined in the report data September 16, 2025 from the director of community services.

2752
03:17:00,240 --> 03:17:04,640
And further that council direct staff to present a kind of official community kind of amendment by it

2753
03:17:04,640 --> 03:17:09,920
all, intending to address requirements of the provincial government as outlined in this report that

2754
03:17:09,920 --> 03:17:16,720
an upcoming council meeting, recommendation number two. The council receives this September 16, 2025

2755
03:17:16,720 --> 03:17:23,280
council direction request title, we municipal fund local leadership, or climate adaptation, climate

2756
03:17:23,280 --> 03:17:29,040
ready plans and process grant application for information. And further that council direct staff

2757
03:17:29,040 --> 03:17:35,440
to present a grant resolution for application to the 2026, we municipal fund local leadership

2758
03:17:35,440 --> 03:17:41,280
requirement adaptation, climate ready plans and process, this is grant for consideration and upcoming

2759
03:17:41,280 --> 03:17:46,960
council meeting. And the motion is made by everybody's still awake. Yeah, hopefully do

2760
03:17:46,960 --> 03:17:54,240
much. I can tell it's a lot in discussion. Well, favorite, most of it is carry. We have a little

2761
03:17:54,240 --> 03:17:59,120
to correspondents and we have a first of all we have a letter from Kathy Peters regarding child sex

2762
03:17:59,120 --> 03:18:04,240
trafficking in British Columbia. The motion is that correspondence from Kathy Peters,

2763
03:18:04,240 --> 03:18:13,600
we received regarding child sex trafficking in British Columbia and further that. I think there was

2764
03:18:13,600 --> 03:18:21,120
a letter attached. Actually, the government, I believe that's correct. I remember that on that

2765
03:18:21,120 --> 03:18:27,040
long ago. But the afferter is that we would support her request, I suppose.

2766
03:18:29,440 --> 03:18:34,480
We need to have a statement right in the frame here and ask the government to reverse the harmful policy

2767
03:18:34,480 --> 03:18:39,920
that fully decriminalizes hard drugs. That's number one. That's whether they ask. Yeah.

2768
03:18:39,920 --> 03:18:45,280
So this re-asked things. And then how would that be part of the movement and remove

2769
03:18:45,360 --> 03:18:49,040
to remove bones from all schools? No.

2770
03:18:51,040 --> 03:18:55,040
Educated over the federal protection of communities and exploited persons act.

2771
03:18:58,080 --> 03:19:01,200
I don't have enough information to tell you. Yeah, I think it's kind of a take where I'll

2772
03:19:01,200 --> 03:19:06,080
get ready to come and just want to receive it for, let's receive this post-pondentant.

2773
03:19:06,960 --> 03:19:18,080
I think so. Maybe we can maybe are the sexual crimes working through maybe once to remove

2774
03:19:18,080 --> 03:19:23,200
this letter and see if there's anything they want to action from. Please forward it to them.

2775
03:19:23,200 --> 03:19:28,320
I'm going to defer it to them for to bring it back as well. Not coming counsel, ladies.

2776
03:19:28,320 --> 03:19:37,600
Yeah. Maybe we can be talking to these other asking for this type of immobilization.

2777
03:19:37,600 --> 03:19:42,720
Or involve our CNP game because that's that's who they're talking about.

2778
03:19:42,720 --> 03:19:48,880
And we've got it done so already. So we'll be seeing the information and deferred to the RCMP over

2779
03:19:50,880 --> 03:19:54,720
clarification. It's kind of an explanation and return it to an upcoming counsel meeting.

2780
03:19:54,720 --> 03:19:59,520
Yeah, get the bill. Yeah, that does. Okay, but we're not really qualified to make any kind of

2781
03:19:59,520 --> 03:20:04,240
these asks. It you made the motion. We have a seconder.

2782
03:20:07,760 --> 03:20:12,640
I think that's what I think. And I think that's a total of all in favor.

2783
03:20:13,920 --> 03:20:18,560
I'd like to make decisions have it. I didn't know that's a lot of the talking games over.

2784
03:20:19,520 --> 03:20:24,640
You did. There's a lot of it. It's good. I'll figure it out. That's a rotary club.

2785
03:20:24,640 --> 03:20:28,960
Press the value regarding permission and support for the destruction of a trail.

2786
03:20:28,960 --> 03:20:34,080
When she occurs to be part 16th Avenue in the industry. The correspondents from the rotary club.

2787
03:20:35,520 --> 03:20:40,320
We received and that. Yeah, and are they asking for a better support?

2788
03:20:41,520 --> 03:20:45,760
They want us to build. Yeah, they go ahead part.

2789
03:20:46,320 --> 03:20:52,240
The mission does it out. We want us to improve them doing. So they see grants and a letter of support. Yeah.

2790
03:20:53,840 --> 03:20:59,840
Can you receive it for information and refer to staff. Thank you. That's what we need.

2791
03:20:59,840 --> 03:21:04,160
Now you read my seconder. I'll second that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

2792
03:21:04,160 --> 03:21:13,040
I'm so involved with all of favor. Motion is carried. The next motion is the correspondence from the

2793
03:21:13,040 --> 03:21:19,040
Crescent Valley Cycling Association. Requesting a letter of support for the closed window mountain bike.

2794
03:21:19,040 --> 03:21:23,760
The other network we received and further that the mayor's authorized to write a letter of support for the

2795
03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:27,360
Crescent Valley Cycling Association. Proposal to develop a little.

2796
03:21:27,360 --> 03:21:33,040
I'd like to create a letter of opportunity. All in second, counter,

2797
03:21:33,040 --> 03:21:40,800
discussion. All in favor. Motion is carried. So we'll be a letter of support for that.

2798
03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:48,880
The second section. The next is a correspondence from ConeonPlyman Services requesting council

2799
03:21:48,880 --> 03:21:54,160
proclaim a total as National Disability Employment Awareness Month. We received the

2800
03:21:54,160 --> 03:21:59,920
further that the mayor's authorized to proclaim October to be National Disability Employment Awareness

2801
03:21:59,920 --> 03:22:06,000
Month. Awareness Month in question with the Town All Building be lit up to purple and the blue colors

2802
03:22:06,000 --> 03:22:11,440
on the 16th. That's coming up very quickly. It's really nice to have sex with us.

2803
03:22:11,440 --> 03:22:17,040
Are the lights set up? It's two days. We didn't set the light. The blue light up because

2804
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:21,840
they're not this a timber and it's like, oh dude, that's the blue light. You do it. I can't

2805
03:22:21,840 --> 03:22:29,200
buy me time. It was not for you. Those did have sex. All night, I can buy. Yeah, you're all there.

2806
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:31,760
So we'll be set up. Yeah.

2807
03:22:31,760 --> 03:22:36,800
You also like to make the motion? Yes. I can't do that. That's good. That's good.

2808
03:22:36,800 --> 03:22:44,560
That's good. Can I tell you all the discussion? Oh, just one thing. Can we have numerous things in a month?

2809
03:22:44,560 --> 03:22:48,560
They question. They question. Yeah, there's a lot. That's good. I think the next one is also,

2810
03:22:48,560 --> 03:22:52,480
because it's also an auctioner. Yeah. That's good. We're not going to want to want to take in a month.

2811
03:22:52,480 --> 03:22:57,440
Okay, great. Yeah. I was going to change the color, but that's okay. All of the favor of the motion.

2812
03:22:57,440 --> 03:23:02,000
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I'm sharing. Okay. Corrected. Next is the decor's bonus.

2813
03:23:02,000 --> 03:23:05,080
We will be this chair. I'm children and family development. We're requesting a

2814
03:23:05,080 --> 03:23:09,680
collaboration for foster family month. We receive and further that the mayor's authorized

2815
03:23:09,680 --> 03:23:14,560
cheaper claim. The month of October to be fostered. Family month is fast again. We're going

2816
03:23:14,560 --> 03:23:18,960
to go into it all, because it was good. It was good. No, no. No. Okay. That was really sexy.

2817
03:23:18,960 --> 03:23:23,520
That was very, very. I'm very sorry. That is delicious. That's good. Very good.

2818
03:23:23,520 --> 03:23:25,520
It's a very important question.

2819
03:23:25,520 --> 03:23:26,520
And we have a lot of questions.

2820
03:23:26,520 --> 03:23:27,520
Yes, sir.

2821
03:23:29,520 --> 03:23:31,520
It's up to you in five motions to go.

2822
03:23:31,520 --> 03:23:32,520
Yes.

2823
03:23:32,520 --> 03:23:34,520
A pressing, no horizon, senior,

2824
03:23:34,520 --> 03:23:35,520
Society of the Guarding,

2825
03:23:35,520 --> 03:23:36,520
Support of the Royal Press,

2826
03:23:36,520 --> 03:23:38,520
Building the correspondents.

2827
03:23:38,520 --> 03:23:41,520
We're addressing support in maintaining the Royal

2828
03:23:41,520 --> 03:23:43,520
Press for all as a community facility

2829
03:23:43,520 --> 03:23:45,520
if you receive and then they're asking for

2830
03:23:45,520 --> 03:23:47,520
and further that.

2831
03:23:47,520 --> 03:23:48,520
But I think,

2832
03:23:48,520 --> 03:23:50,520
rather than further,

2833
03:23:50,520 --> 03:23:52,520
it's been referred back to RDCK.

2834
03:23:52,520 --> 03:23:54,520
So I think we will reflect.

2835
03:23:54,520 --> 03:23:55,520
Right.

2836
03:23:55,520 --> 03:23:56,520
You've heard this.

2837
03:23:56,520 --> 03:23:57,520
Back to RDCK.

2838
03:23:57,520 --> 03:23:58,520
Yeah.

2839
03:23:58,520 --> 03:23:59,520
That's okay.

2840
03:23:59,520 --> 03:24:00,520
Thank you.

2841
03:24:00,520 --> 03:24:02,520
Thank you.

2842
03:24:02,520 --> 03:24:05,520
We'd like us to forward the letter to them.

2843
03:24:05,520 --> 03:24:07,520
Would you like us to forward the letter to them?

2844
03:24:07,520 --> 03:24:08,520
I believe they have it.

2845
03:24:08,520 --> 03:24:09,520
I'm sure they have it.

2846
03:24:09,520 --> 03:24:11,520
But we wouldn't heard it.

2847
03:24:11,520 --> 03:24:12,520
We forward it.

2848
03:24:12,520 --> 03:24:13,520
Yeah.

2849
03:24:13,520 --> 03:24:14,520
I'm sure they have it.

2850
03:24:14,520 --> 03:24:15,520
But we wouldn't heard it.

2851
03:24:15,520 --> 03:24:16,520
We forward it.

2852
03:24:16,520 --> 03:24:17,520
Yeah.

2853
03:24:18,520 --> 03:24:19,520
Well, let's have a little should here.

2854
03:24:19,520 --> 03:24:20,520
First of all.

2855
03:24:20,520 --> 03:24:21,520
It comes to Baldwin.

2856
03:24:21,520 --> 03:24:22,520
Second comes with Holland.

2857
03:24:22,520 --> 03:24:23,520
On my favorite.

2858
03:24:23,520 --> 03:24:24,520
Which is scary.

2859
03:24:26,520 --> 03:24:27,520
Next at the Onands.

2860
03:24:27,520 --> 03:24:29,520
Regarding Street Biding and the sidewalk along

2861
03:24:29,520 --> 03:24:30,520
First Avenue on West.

2862
03:24:30,520 --> 03:24:32,520
The Corps of Finance.

2863
03:24:32,520 --> 03:24:33,520
From the Onands.

2864
03:24:33,520 --> 03:24:36,520
Regarding the consideration of additional street biding.

2865
03:24:36,520 --> 03:24:38,520
And sidewalk along First Avenue.

2866
03:24:38,520 --> 03:24:39,520
And working.

2867
03:24:39,520 --> 03:24:40,520
West.

2868
03:24:40,520 --> 03:24:41,520
Quest and we received.

2869
03:24:41,520 --> 03:24:42,520
Further that.

2870
03:24:42,520 --> 03:24:43,520
The be different staff for further information.

2871
03:24:43,520 --> 03:24:44,520
Yeah.

2872
03:24:44,520 --> 03:24:45,520
Okay.

2873
03:24:45,520 --> 03:24:46,520
Okay.

2874
03:24:46,520 --> 03:24:47,520
Yes.

2875
03:24:47,520 --> 03:24:48,520
Yes.

2876
03:24:48,520 --> 03:24:49,520
Have some wellness.

2877
03:24:49,520 --> 03:24:50,520
That can come from the bottom.

2878
03:24:50,520 --> 03:24:51,520
On favorite.

2879
03:24:51,520 --> 03:24:52,520
Should this carry.

2880
03:24:52,520 --> 03:24:58,280
Next is a correspondence from Dr. Sunland with the Canada requesting a donation to their

2881
03:24:58,280 --> 03:25:02,800
annual fundraising bank that we received and further that Council will prove the donation

2882
03:25:02,800 --> 03:25:04,960
of one town of Crest and Duffel Bay.

2883
03:25:04,960 --> 03:25:09,280
One had three golf shirts to Dr. Sunland with Canada to assist with fundraising for their

2884
03:25:09,280 --> 03:25:10,280
annual bank fund.

2885
03:25:10,280 --> 03:25:15,440
One of the two councilors do is I can get council areas on favorite or should carry it.

2886
03:25:15,440 --> 03:25:20,440
And again, that's live at the time I think was so frightened that it was public, isn't

2887
03:25:20,440 --> 03:25:21,440
it?

2888
03:25:21,440 --> 03:25:27,760
And next is Crestland and Belly then Society that discretionary grant application from principal

2889
03:25:27,760 --> 03:25:32,760
identity society you receive and they're asking for $1,500 so I'm asking here for the

2890
03:25:32,760 --> 03:25:34,760
more of it to suggest than about it.

2891
03:25:34,760 --> 03:25:42,760
We only have $600, $500, $1,500, $1,500 in the discretionary fund.

2892
03:25:42,760 --> 03:25:43,760
Okay.

2893
03:25:44,260 --> 03:25:44,760
That's.

2894
03:25:44,760 --> 03:25:46,640
How would say five, $1,500?

2895
03:25:46,640 --> 03:25:53,840
You know I'll deal a little bit back because we're still have this I'm would be gonna have

2896
03:25:53,840 --> 03:26:02,240
an ass from the volleyball this year and how, why once the cut off again and over here, December.

2897
03:26:02,240 --> 03:26:03,240
December, December.

2898
03:26:03,240 --> 03:26:04,240
Okay.

2899
03:26:04,240 --> 03:26:11,320
I mean it's kind of the argument they dominated our coffee top table but the point was that they

2900
03:26:11,320 --> 03:26:18,520
have expenses, 10 times of that, about $1,500, so in other words, they're on fumes,

2901
03:26:18,520 --> 03:26:24,200
with no other place send, it's feeding people and stuff like that. I think it's, as compared

2902
03:26:24,200 --> 03:26:31,000
to something wrong, so because matter, I think, I would be going, I would be going the $1,500,

2903
03:26:31,000 --> 03:26:36,680
and I don't think I'm going to. I think, as the what that's known we want, if we can't resolve

2904
03:26:36,680 --> 03:26:44,520
anything else, in that time, this is more than a token amount. I'm purely politics.

2905
03:26:47,720 --> 03:26:55,080
I would, yours would be 500, so that's the motion you're making, so if somebody seconds that

2906
03:26:55,080 --> 03:27:00,600
send out, I'll defer until we've all done that. I'm pushing between, that's it, woo.

2907
03:27:06,600 --> 03:27:10,440
Yeah, we have no motion yet. Yeah, motion, that'd be a second.

2908
03:27:12,440 --> 03:27:18,520
You can re-word your motion if you'd like. Honestly, I support $1,500, because they are going to run

2909
03:27:18,520 --> 03:27:23,560
out of money and they provide a very valuable service center community, and if we're going to stretch anything,

2910
03:27:24,040 --> 03:27:26,680
I recommend you stretch this one. What if that, that's what?

2911
03:27:26,680 --> 03:27:30,520
That's what? That's what I don't know nothing. That's what it's called. It's always paid, oh, that's it. Yeah,

2912
03:27:30,520 --> 03:27:36,200
and tell this number. They're the first. I do make a motion that we do $500, and then come and

2913
03:27:36,200 --> 03:27:40,840
in here, make, make an ugly decision. Or like that. I like that. I'd like to

2914
03:27:41,560 --> 03:27:48,520
pay you up to a residment or what they have. They could make a motion again and request a

2915
03:27:48,520 --> 03:27:54,280
December for more funding. You could have done that. You could refer it to an end of December.

2916
03:27:55,480 --> 03:28:03,160
You could make the motion for $500, and also refer the balance to a December meeting for reconsideration.

2917
03:28:03,720 --> 03:28:07,160
Okay. I like that. I like that. I like that. I don't think, man, I don't

2918
03:28:07,160 --> 03:28:11,000
what they're concerned with. They're like, why would we put it all to them? They just want to

2919
03:28:11,000 --> 03:28:16,280
just in case other people ask for them. You mentioned the quality of all team comes in. I'm a bit worried

2920
03:28:16,280 --> 03:28:19,960
about the December those young kids sports teams that come in and ask for funding or if you'd be here,

2921
03:28:19,960 --> 03:28:26,520
would the expectation always receive it? That's right. We don't have any. But, but, I also, I know,

2922
03:28:26,520 --> 03:28:31,880
this isn't pretty pretty good. I don't, I don't like the idea of deferring a personal commitment,

2923
03:28:32,840 --> 03:28:38,840
is very tentative. There's nothing else to actually say. It's what they didn't pay for clients.

2924
03:28:38,840 --> 03:28:47,400
It's now. I don't need to be advocating on their behalf directly, but $500 is just kind of like a

2925
03:28:48,920 --> 03:28:52,920
look, warm response from her. And they've got enough reason to hate her saying this.

2926
03:28:53,640 --> 03:29:00,680
Is it $1,500 asking? Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. $1,500 asking. Yeah. I'm sorry.

2927
03:29:00,680 --> 03:29:04,840
You're worried for their sports stuff. They're still a little bit. I don't know. I mean, I always

2928
03:29:04,840 --> 03:29:11,240
defer the sports team's request for a month because we could say we can, and we can actually grant you

2929
03:29:11,240 --> 03:29:19,720
consider your request in a month. Is there, do we have any other revenue streams available for those

2930
03:29:20,200 --> 03:29:24,360
sports teams and things like that? That would normally happen. That's our decision.

2931
03:29:24,360 --> 03:29:31,720
I've said it. That's all for community needs. It restarts. Yeah. I mean, I would say that

2932
03:29:31,720 --> 03:29:39,720
over, down probably leads it more and over to the ground. 1568. So, it's not.

2933
03:29:40,760 --> 03:29:45,720
It is. And we have 500 life in our oven. I was enticing. We've got our six cents.

2934
03:29:50,280 --> 03:29:53,320
That's six hundred. That's one hundred hours. That's one hundred hours. I think. Yeah.

2935
03:29:54,360 --> 03:29:59,960
It's 16 to six feet. So, we're going to have. So, it's good. And you can, you can tell.

2936
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:04,000
We can move your body around in your budget. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

2937
03:30:04,000 --> 03:30:13,000
It's a way to further worry about, you know, sports team coming in, if you have 500 hours in our time.

2938
03:30:13,000 --> 03:30:15,000
Yes.

2939
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:17,000
You know, that helps.

2940
03:30:17,000 --> 03:30:20,000
They tend to ask for it right around Christmas time, right?

2941
03:30:20,000 --> 03:30:21,000
It's something that we speak to men.

2942
03:30:21,000 --> 03:30:23,000
It doesn't feel January.

2943
03:30:23,000 --> 03:30:24,000
Thank you.

2944
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:25,000
That's fine too.

2945
03:30:25,000 --> 03:30:27,000
If that's all we're worried about, you know,

2946
03:30:27,000 --> 03:30:29,000
it's those requests for $250,000.

2947
03:30:29,000 --> 03:30:30,000
Yeah.

2948
03:30:30,000 --> 03:30:31,000
That's set up.

2949
03:30:31,000 --> 03:30:32,000
Yeah.

2950
03:30:32,000 --> 03:30:33,000
I think it's not a good problem.

2951
03:30:33,000 --> 03:30:35,000
We'll help find helping out budget too.

2952
03:30:35,000 --> 03:30:36,000
Okay.

2953
03:30:36,000 --> 03:30:38,000
Was my motion seconded?

2954
03:30:38,000 --> 03:30:39,000
No.

2955
03:30:39,000 --> 03:30:40,000
No.

2956
03:30:40,000 --> 03:30:42,000
We're the motion.

2957
03:30:42,000 --> 03:30:44,000
I was just going to do the friendly amendment.

2958
03:30:44,000 --> 03:30:46,000
If it was seconded.

2959
03:30:46,000 --> 03:30:47,000
Seconded.

2960
03:30:47,000 --> 03:30:49,000
Then I make the motion that we do the $1,500.

2961
03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:50,000
Seconded.

2962
03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:51,000
Seconded.

2963
03:30:51,000 --> 03:30:52,000
Dr. Baldwin.

2964
03:30:52,000 --> 03:30:54,000
Any further discussion?

2965
03:30:54,000 --> 03:30:55,000
All in favor?

2966
03:30:56,000 --> 03:30:57,000
Motion is carried.

2967
03:30:57,000 --> 03:31:00,000
And although the taxes are helping and establishing a shelter,

2968
03:31:00,000 --> 03:31:02,000
they haven't really come just for money.

2969
03:31:02,000 --> 03:31:03,000
So that's it.

2970
03:31:03,000 --> 03:31:04,000
That's it.

2971
03:31:04,000 --> 03:31:05,000
That's it.

2972
03:31:05,000 --> 03:31:06,000
That's it.

2973
03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:07,000
That's it.

2974
03:31:07,000 --> 03:31:08,000
That's it.

2975
03:31:08,000 --> 03:31:09,000
Actually, very pleased.

2976
03:31:09,000 --> 03:31:11,000
Thank you for that.

2977
03:31:11,000 --> 03:31:12,000
Right.

2978
03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:13,000
So that's it.

2979
03:31:13,000 --> 03:31:15,000
Of course, Juan's from Mr. Fierke.

2980
03:31:15,000 --> 03:31:16,000
That.

2981
03:31:16,000 --> 03:31:18,000
Regarding speed limits in Eric's street.

2982
03:31:18,000 --> 03:31:21,000
You received the further that it would be deferred to staff.

2983
03:31:21,000 --> 03:31:22,000
Imagine.

2984
03:31:23,000 --> 03:31:24,000
This is.

2985
03:31:24,000 --> 03:31:25,000
Eric's.

2986
03:31:25,000 --> 03:31:26,000
And it's actually out of our direction.

2987
03:31:26,000 --> 03:31:27,000
Fiction was it.

2988
03:31:27,000 --> 03:31:28,000
Eric's at home.

2989
03:31:28,000 --> 03:31:29,000
So that's it.

2990
03:31:29,000 --> 03:31:30,000
Half a minute.

2991
03:31:30,000 --> 03:31:31,000
Half a minute.

2992
03:31:31,000 --> 03:31:32,000
No.

2993
03:31:32,000 --> 03:31:33,000
No.

2994
03:31:33,000 --> 03:31:34,000
It's not that middle.

2995
03:31:34,000 --> 03:31:35,000
It's it's owned by the ministry.

2996
03:31:35,000 --> 03:31:37,000
It's owned entirely owned by the minister.

2997
03:31:37,000 --> 03:31:39,000
We traded the.

2998
03:31:39,000 --> 03:31:41,000
Our side of the road for another vote.

2999
03:31:41,000 --> 03:31:42,000
How.

3000
03:31:42,000 --> 03:31:43,000
How.

3001
03:31:43,000 --> 03:31:44,000
Australia.

3002
03:31:44,000 --> 03:31:45,000
It was.

3003
03:31:45,000 --> 03:31:46,000
Yeah.

3004
03:31:46,000 --> 03:31:47,000
Now, sure.

3005
03:31:47,000 --> 03:31:49,000
So we can receive information.

3006
03:31:49,000 --> 03:31:50,000
Now.

3007
03:31:50,000 --> 03:31:53,000
Good corporate officer to told them that it was also time.

3008
03:31:53,000 --> 03:31:54,000
So.

3009
03:31:54,000 --> 03:31:55,000
Okay.

3010
03:31:55,000 --> 03:31:56,000
It was the expected response of it.

3011
03:31:56,000 --> 03:31:57,000
Okay.

3012
03:31:57,000 --> 03:31:58,000
Okay.

3013
03:31:58,000 --> 03:31:59,000
So we can just receive it.

3014
03:31:59,000 --> 03:32:00,000
Yeah.

3015
03:32:00,000 --> 03:32:01,000
Post your two.

3016
03:32:01,000 --> 03:32:02,000
After one minute.

3017
03:32:02,000 --> 03:32:04,000
Second counts are hot and all in favor.

3018
03:32:04,000 --> 03:32:06,000
You shouldn't carry.

3019
03:32:06,000 --> 03:32:07,000
It's.

3020
03:32:07,000 --> 03:32:08,000
And of course,

3021
03:32:08,000 --> 03:32:09,000
Juan's been a minister of housing.

3022
03:32:09,000 --> 03:32:10,000
He was supposed to go to the fair.

3023
03:32:10,000 --> 03:32:11,000
He's called.

3024
03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:12,000
He's called.

3025
03:32:12,000 --> 03:32:13,000
He's called.

3026
03:32:13,000 --> 03:32:14,000
He's called.

3027
03:32:14,000 --> 03:32:15,000
He's called.

3028
03:32:15,000 --> 03:32:16,000
He's called.

3029
03:32:16,000 --> 03:32:17,000
He's called.

3030
03:32:17,000 --> 03:32:18,000
He's called.

3031
03:32:18,000 --> 03:32:19,000
He's called.

3032
03:32:19,000 --> 03:32:20,000
He's called.

3033
03:32:20,000 --> 03:32:21,000
He's called.

3034
03:32:21,000 --> 03:32:22,000
He's called.

3035
03:32:22,000 --> 03:32:23,000
He's called.

3036
03:32:23,000 --> 03:32:24,000
He's called.

3037
03:32:24,000 --> 03:32:26,000
Oh, he's called.

3038
03:32:26,000 --> 03:32:27,000
Yeah.

3039
03:32:27,000 --> 03:32:28,000
Yeah.

3040
03:32:28,000 --> 03:32:29,000
He's.

3041
03:32:29,000 --> 03:32:30,000
Or he know.

3042
03:32:30,000 --> 03:32:32,000
And I think we've let this.

3043
03:32:32,000 --> 03:32:35,000
I think all this perceived it done.

3044
03:32:35,000 --> 03:32:37,000
Yeah, I believe we have.

3045
03:32:37,000 --> 03:32:39,000
I believe we have.

3046
03:32:39,000 --> 03:32:40,000
I believe.

3047
03:32:40,000 --> 03:32:42,000
I believe.

3048
03:32:42,000 --> 03:32:43,000
I believe.

3049
03:32:43,000 --> 03:32:44,000
I believe.

3050
03:32:44,000 --> 03:32:46,000
That.

3051
03:32:46,000 --> 03:32:47,000
Believe.

3052
03:32:47,000 --> 03:32:52,360
partners from Canadian Pacific Cancer City Railway, advising that the holiday train will be returned

3053
03:32:52,360 --> 03:32:57,240
to the rest of the year. On December 15th, you will see that most of the two counts are hollow,

3054
03:32:57,240 --> 03:33:01,320
so that kind of counts are bottomed, all in favour, which is just carried.

3055
03:33:01,320 --> 03:33:03,880
We will make a release around this train.

3056
03:33:03,880 --> 03:33:06,200
What is it that you know about the holiday train?

3057
03:33:06,200 --> 03:33:09,080
Make a release, make a release, make a release for the holiday train.

3058
03:33:10,040 --> 03:33:14,280
Work and donations, but at least it is not important to be presented at the holiday train.

3059
03:33:14,280 --> 03:33:20,280
It has District 2 World Bank Uber regarding provincial directors with respect to land use and community

3060
03:33:20,280 --> 03:33:23,480
planning. That, of course, will be received.

3061
03:33:23,480 --> 03:33:25,480
We should too, Councilor.

3062
03:33:25,480 --> 03:33:29,080
Thank you. Thanks. I'm also involved in that with favour.

3063
03:33:29,080 --> 03:33:34,200
Thank you very much. Next is the course bonus for Mr. Phil O'Paris.

3064
03:33:34,200 --> 03:33:37,560
Regarding accountability and policing in senior government,

3065
03:33:37,560 --> 03:33:43,240
BBC Moshton. Two of the second counts are areas on the favour,

3066
03:33:44,120 --> 03:33:49,400
which is carried. That surgeon in particular, I have a not least council action list in part

3067
03:33:49,960 --> 03:33:52,840
in October 14th, BBC Moshton.

3068
03:33:54,040 --> 03:33:56,920
Councilor Hopkins, seconded counts are at Holland or at favour.

3069
03:33:57,800 --> 03:33:59,560
Moshton is very, absolutely.

3070
03:33:59,560 --> 03:34:02,520
We have the active mayor schedule in our agenda.

3071
03:34:03,560 --> 03:34:07,160
We are open for the party. We are involved. We are all involved here. Any questions?

3072
03:34:07,880 --> 03:34:09,160
Gold star.

3073
03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:13,160
We have a few change on the chair.

3074
03:34:17,160 --> 03:34:22,520
I would then request a motion that we recessed and reconvened.

3075
03:34:24,520 --> 03:34:27,240
We have pursued with him in the 90s of one seat.

3076
03:34:27,960 --> 03:34:34,840
We have relations and relations, but that's like the action of the two areas.

3077
03:34:35,240 --> 03:34:36,840
Second count total.

3078
03:34:38,840 --> 03:34:40,840
We are going to take a brief recess.

3079
03:34:40,840 --> 03:34:42,840
We are all in the motion.

3080
03:34:42,840 --> 03:34:44,840
We are all in the motion.

3081
03:34:44,840 --> 03:34:46,840
I'm not going to take a quick.

3082
03:34:46,840 --> 03:34:48,840
Thanks.

3083
03:34:48,840 --> 03:34:50,840
I'm going to take a quick.

3084
03:34:50,840 --> 03:34:52,840
I'm going to take a quick.