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Well, good evening, everybody. Welcome to our 24th of August city council meeting. If you would like, first of all, please mute your technical equipment. Anything you might, if you might have a laptop or a tablet or a telephone, smartwatch is okay if you don't have the alarm set. But go ahead and silence those if you would. And as we always do, we begin with an invocation.

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If you can't not to join us, you can step outside for a couple of minutes and then come back in.

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But we have with us this evening leading us in the invocation,

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Pastor Jerry Nelson.

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Not only good friend of mine, he has Live Oak Baptist Church,

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a great friend of the city.

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They take care of our people, especially with the food pantry.

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Tuesday mornings they have to drive through, I don't want to call it a drive-by.

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That would be the wrong terminology.

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a drive-through, and they take care of a lot of people.

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That on Thursday, if you didn't make it, you can drive,

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you can walk up and request food.

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So we really appreciate that, Pastor Nelson.

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So if you would come up to the Mike Leaders

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and lease in a pledge afterwards, we'd appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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The Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day

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and the opportunity to come.

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And we pray for these leaders of our city today.

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Father, you impart wisdom for those who ask, and so Father, I'm praying for these men

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and women who are gathered here to do the business of the city, the God that you'd give them

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wisdom and discernment to make the right decisions.

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We pray that you'd lead them and guide them, and bless Father, the works of their hands,

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that the people father of the city might benefit from it. We ask this now in Jesus' name. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, individual, liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you, passers.

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I always say you're welcome to pray and not obligated to stay.

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So what's up to you?

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All right.

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We do have a quorum.

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In fact, everyone is here.

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That means we can do business.

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We're going to go all the way down to item 4.

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I need approval of tonight's agenda.

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Thanks.

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Move by Mayor Poachamp.

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Camp 2nd, by Councilwoman Allison.

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Do we have any discussion on that?

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Seeing none of those in favor, I was opposed, motion carries five to zero, and we go right down to the consent agenda for another vote.

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Motion by Councilman Hayes, seconded by Councilman Eccles, to approve the consent agenda, any discussion?

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Seeing none of those in favor, I was opposed, motion carries five to zero.

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Now we get down to the heart of the matter, and that is public hearings.

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These are ordinances on second reading, which means if you want to address the council when

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we call for any public comment, you can do that.

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We'd like you to fill out a card for us so we can pronounce your name correctly, you know,

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for the record and all that kind of stuff.

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So we're going to begin with ordinance 2027.

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Good evening.

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Ordinance 2027 is a request to Annex and assign a future land use and zoning designation

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for a property located at 2109-3rd Avenue.

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The property currently is located inside of unincorporated

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Ocalus County with a future land use and zoning designation of mixed use.

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And the planning and development board recommended approval of the request on August 3rd, and first reading was approved on August 10th.

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The noticing requirements have been met, and the fees for the annexation request, the application were $1,200, the cost of advertising was $550,000.

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and 50 cents. Madam Clerk, would you please read Ordinance 2027 by title?

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Ordinance 2027 and Ordinance annexing to the City of Crestview, Florida.

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More or less 0.57 acres of contiguous lands located in Section 4,

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Township 3 North, Range 23 West and being described as set forth herein, providing for authority, providing for land description, providing for boundary, providing for land use and zoning designation, providing for amendment to the base.

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land use and zoning maps, providing for comprehensive plan amendment, providing for filing with the Clerk of Circuit Court of Oklahoma's Accounting, the Chief Administrative Officer of Oklahoma's Accounting and the Florida Department of State, providing for separability, providing for scrivener's errors, providing for legal interpretation, providing for repeal of conflicting codes and ordinances, and providing for an effective date, ordinance 2027.

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and happy to answer any questions,

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otherwise, staff respectfully request adoption

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of ordinance 2027 on second reading.

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Council, any comments or questions?

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Not surprising, being the second reading.

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Anybody from the public like to address

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the city council on this ordinance?

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See, I close public meeting and bring it back for action.

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So moved.

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second by Councilman Hayes to accept ordnance 2027 on second reading. Any discussion on that?

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All of those in favor?

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Those opposed? Motion carries 5-0. Ordnance 2028.

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Ordnance 2028 is the request to assign a future land use designation to that same property at 20109

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3rd Avenue. The application is requesting the commercial future land use designation for that property,

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which was recommended for approval by the Planning and Development Board on August 3rd and approved on first reading on August 10th.

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Madam Clerk, would you please read Ordinance 2028 by title?

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Ordinance 2028. In Ordinance of the City of Cresview, Florida, amending its adopt comprehensive plan, providing for authority, providing for findings of fact, providing for purpose, providing for changing the future land used as a nation

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from Oklahoma County mixed use to commercial on approximately 0.57 acres more or less in

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Section 4, Township 3 North, Range 23 West, providing for future land use map amendment,

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providing for separability, providing for scriveners areas, providing for liberal interpretation,

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providing for repeal of conflicting codes and ordinances, and providing for an effective

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date that is ordinance 2028.

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And the fees for the request were included in the fees for the annexation as was the cost

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of advertising also rolled into the cost of the annexation ad.

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And if there are no questions, staff respectfully request adoption of ordinance 2020 on second

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reading.

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Council, any comments or questions?

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It's in public, anybody from the public like to address the council on ordinance 2028.

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It's in on the call, that's the council for action.

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motion by Councilwoman Allison, seconded by Councilman Hayes, to approve ordinance 2022 second reading any discussion seen on all those in favor those opposed motion carries five to zero and we go to ordinance 2029.

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Do you swear from the evidence you're about to give would be the truth the whole truth about the truth. Yes.

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So, ordinance 2029 is the rezoning request for that same property on 209 third avenue.

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The request is to assign the commercial high density district or C2 zoning designation

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for that property, which was also recommended for approval on August 3rd by the planning

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development board and approved on first reading on August 10th.

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Madam Clerk, would you please read ordinance 2029 by title?

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ordinance 2029, the ordinance of the city of Cresview, Florida, providing for the rezoning of 0.57 acres more or less of real property

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located in section 4, Township 3, North, Range 23, West, from the Ocalooza County mixed use zoning district to the commercial high-density

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district zoning district, providing for authority, providing for the updating of the Cresview zoning map, providing for severability, providing for

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as thunderstorms are providing for liveischeb NHS, providing for repeal of conflicting

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codes, ordinances and providing for an effective day.

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That is ordinance 1029.

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Again, the fees were also part of the annexation fees for the application and the advertising,

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and if there are no questions staff respectfully request adoption of ordinance 1029 on second

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reading.

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Counselor, any comments or questions?

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Any comments on the other?

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Any questions on the public want to be sworn in and make any statements for the council

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on.

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ordinance 2029. See, and now my call to the council for action.

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Motion by

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Councilman Frost, second by Councilwoman Allison, two approved ordinance, 2029

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of second reading. It was not you. It was second by Councilman Eccles.

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Corrections please, thank you.

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Okay, correction to the correction.

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Councilor Smith-Eckles made the motion, seconded by Councilwoman Allison, and any discussion?

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Those in favor?

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Those opposed?

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Motion carries.

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5 to 0.

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We go on to ordinance 2030.

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Still sworn in?

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You're still sworn in?

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Ordnance 2030 is a request to assign the C2 zoning designation for a property located

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on at 501 Garden Street. The property is currently inside the city limits of press view

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with future land use designation of commercial and zoning designation of C1 or commercial

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low intensity. The Planning and Development Board recommended approval of the request on August

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is third and the first reading was approved by the Council on August 10th.

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All of the noticing requirements have been met and the cost of the request was $750.

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The cost of advertising was $212.50.

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Metal Kirk, would you please read Ordinance 2038?

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Ordinance 2030.

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In Ordinance of the City of Cresview, Florida, providing for the rezoning of 0.49 acres,

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more or less of real property located in Section 4, Township 3 North,

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Branch 23 West from the Commercial Low Intensity District,

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Zoning District to the Commercial High Intensity District,

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Zoning District. Providing for authority, providing for the updating of the

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Crescue Zoning Mount, providing for separability, providing for

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Scribner's Errors, providing for Liberal Interpretation, providing for repeal

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of conflicting codes and ordinances, and providing for an effective date.

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That is ordinance 2030.

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If there are no questions, staff respectfully request adoption of ordinance 2030 on second reading.

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Any comments or questions from the council?

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Any comments or questions from the public?

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I'll call it back for action.

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Move by council.

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May 4th.

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Cap.

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Second by council.

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Hayes.

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Any discussion?

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All those in favor?

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Aye.

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Those opposed?

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Motion carries.

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5-0.

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So, it is 2032 and you're going to be keeping yourself.

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Yes, sir.

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I have a voting conflict under section 112.3143 for the statutes and I'm going to be abstaining from the voting on this matter.

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Sorry.

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Thank you.

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So, ordinance 2032 is a request to change the zoning designation for Harrisburg Estates phases 2 through 4 to a planned unit development to adjust the setbacks for the lots

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within the subdivision.

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The development order has been issued, it was issued on October 30th of 2024, and there

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are no substantial changes to the site development.

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It's going to remain the same 72 lots, single-family unit residential subdivision.

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The only changes are to allow a setbacks of 20 feet in the front, seven and a half feet

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on the sides and 25 feet in the rear.

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Current standards allow 30 feet in the front,

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10 feet on the sides and 25 feet in the rear.

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However, a lot of the lots have a pretty significant slope

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which would greatly reduce the amount of backyard

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that some of these lots have,

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which is why the request is being made.

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Harrisburg Estates, the first phase that's already been completed,

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was done prior to the setbacks being changed

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with the new zoning districts.

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and so

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So those lots already have 25 feet in the front, seven and a half feet on the sides and 20 feet in the rear, so they would actually be more similar to the ones that are existing than abiding by the current zoning district standards. All of the noticing requirements have been met, and the fee for the rezoning request was $750, the cost of advertising was $212.50.

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Madam Clerk, would you please read 2032 by title?

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Ornith's 2032, in the city of Crescue, Florida, providing for the rezoning of 36.95 acres, more or less of real property located in section 31, Township 4 North, Range 23 West, and Section 36, Township 4 North, Range 24 West, from the single-family low-density dwelling district zoning district to the planned unit development zoning district, providing for authority, providing for the updating of the Crescue zoning map,

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providing for severability, providing for scrivener's areas, providing for liberal interpretation,

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providing for repeal of conflicting codes and ordinances, and providing for an effective date.

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That is ordinance 2032.

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And if there are no questions, staff respectfully request adoption of ordinance 2032 on second reading.

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College of questions for the council.

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Councilman Truss.

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I just want to clarify, phase one was 25 in the front,

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7 and a half on the side and 20 in the rear.

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25 on the front, 7 and a half on the sides and 25 in the rear.

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All right. And then phase two, they're asking for 20 in the front.

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7 and a half on the side and 25 in the back.

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Yeah, for phases two through four.

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And our ordinance is 30 in the front, 10 on the side, 25 in the rear.

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Yeah, the current zoning standards for R1, yes.

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So what is the reasoning they're asking for 2 and a half feet and 10 feet?

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So several of those lots and phases two through four have some pretty significant slopes in the back, and so having them push that far back, 30 feet would not give them much backyard.

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But they still can build it. Can they still build the house by our court ordinance right now?

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For the ones with the slopes, I'm not sure I don't know what style of house or what size house they're looking to put on those lots.

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just that it would minimize the backyards with the current setbacks.

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I feel like we got ordinances in place.

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I feel like we deviate from them.

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Where do we stop saying somebody else to come in and say, hey,

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I want to deviate from your ordinance.

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I feel like if they can build a house on our current ordinance,

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I feel like that's what they should be able to do.

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So I can't support it.

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Any other comments?

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questions from the council. Any but from the public, I'd like to speak to the council on this ordinance.

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Seeing none, I call it back for action.

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Motion by Councilman Hayes, seconded by Councilwoman Allison to approve the ordinance on second reading. All those in favor?

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Those opposed? No.

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So the vote is three, three, four.

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The abstention is by Councilman Tross.

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And the abstention is by Maple Demcaps.

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Okay, move on.

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And now we move on to ordnance on first reading.

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We have three of those.

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Let me just explain a little bit on first reading.

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We don't take public comment because even though a vote

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is taken, it doesn't become final to the second vote.

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if if if if some reason you want to talk about any of the next three ordinances

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you can do that during public comments. So saying that, let's move on to

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ordinance 2001 2019.

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So we have the Municipal Public Services Tax

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Amendment so this is an amendment to our current code. Our current code has some

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very specific language in it that relates to the utilities that we are

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providing within the city limits not the utilities that are provided within the

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city limits. So this amendment is being proposed, honestly, for the purposes of fairness.

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So right now, built into our rate structure for our customer, our utility customers is

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a 6% tax. It's just built into the rate structure. And so this would continue that to people

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receiving water or sewer services inside the city limits that aren't being directly provided

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by the city. So right now we have about 300 of those customers on mostly the north end

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of Crestview that are being serviced by Auburn Water and so again this is just to make

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sure that everything is equal and fair across the board regardless of who you are receiving

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that service for, the tax is being applied in a similar manner. So this is not an additional

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6% rate increase to our customers, it is built into the City of Crestview's Water Bill

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already. Any questions? Madam comments or questions? Madam Clerk?

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Work,

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ordinance 2019.

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Inordinates of the city of Crescue, Florida,

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amending section 82-101,

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tax levy upon city water, providing for authority,

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providing for findings of fact,

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providing for severability,

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providing for scrivener's errors,

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providing for liberal interpretation,

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providing for repeal of conflicting codes and ordinances,

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and providing for an effective date, ordinance 2019.

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Thank you.

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Any comments questions at this point?

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Okay, could I have action, please?

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motion by Councilman Hayes, second by Councilman Echoes, to approve ordinance 2019 on first

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reading. Any other discussion? All those in favor? Those opposed? Motion carries 5-0 and

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and we'll go to, let me scroll down here.

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Ones 2034.

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Okay.

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So again, we have another new ordinance related to,

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these are our customers who receive

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only sewer service from the City of Crestview.

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So as we continue to look into making sure

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these user fees are being paid for

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and these services that are based on user fees

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are paid for by the people

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they're actually using the service.

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We combined our water and sewer revenues, and that's how we pay for these different big projects, but sewer projects, I'm sorry, sewer cost more to process than water does.

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So what we're seeing is that in these areas where the customer has only sewer, the fair share isn't being carried across the board.

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So if they have both of those services from us, it's evening out. If they only have one service, there's a bit of an additional burden there.

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So we contacted one of our engineering consultants.

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They ran a couple of models for us, looked into what it cost us in capital projects and

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disposal fees for these areas.

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And this is the additional rate that we looked into.

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Additionally, we started looking into this solution because we are struggling with sewer.

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It's one of the things that we always have to keep on top of.

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It's a very expensive service to provide, and the city was behind a little bit in that area.

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So, one of the things that we've been working on with the county is the potential for a more regional solution

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specifically for East Crestview. And so they've recently adopted a very similar model for their customers who only

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have sewer and don't have the water service as well. So, for working towards a partnership, we want to make sure that we're as close to on the same page as we can in.

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And so, hopefully this will help us as we continue to move towards that partnership. And a regional solution will really be the most efficient

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and use of everyone's dollars, whether those be our dollars, their dollars, or the customer's dollars.

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Madam Clerk.

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Ordnance 2034.

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In ordnance creating section 90, dash 187, sewer only customers of the code of ordinance of the city of Crestview, Florida,

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providing for authority, providing for severability, providing for scriveners errors, providing for liberal interpretation, providing for repeal of conflicting codes and ordinances, and providing for an effective date.

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It's ordinance 2034.

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Any comments or questions?

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Can I have action please?

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One, of course.

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Go ahead.

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So just to clarify, so people that are on septic tank,

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will be paying the same as the people that are on sewer and water.

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No, sir.

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People that are on septic tanks don't pay anything for sewer,

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so they only pay the water rate.

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So this is only pertaining to people who receive sewer services

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from the city of Crestview, but don't have our water.

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So we have some customers on the north end of town

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who are in that situation.

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and a lot of these are businesses,

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because they had to have sewer

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to operate their commercial business,

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but I don't have those exact numbers

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for you how many are residential

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and how many are business.

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I understand, thanks.

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Any other comments or questions?

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Okay, action please.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Motion by Councilwoman Allison,

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second by Councilman Echoes.

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Two approved ordinance 2034

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and first reading and he further discussion.

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Seeing none of those in favor, those opposed, motion carries five to zero, and we go on to ordinance 2035.

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Good evening, council. This is an ordinance pertaining to our overall amendment of the comprehensive fee schedule, which is something that we do every year.

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We talked about a lot of these changes at one of the last budget workshops, so I'm not going to hit on every single thing.

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But there were some new ones that came up in between then and now that I'm going to hit on.

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So as some background, like I said, we do this every year.

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Really, we're trying to align best with changes in costs and conditions.

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So we always see changes in construction costs for projects and things like that that we need

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to keep up with. So this is our overall amendment of the plan for of the schedule for the next year,

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starting October 1st, 2026. So it serves the increasing cost of services as well as we're always

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trying to work toward fiscal self-sufficiency for our general fund departments

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in divisions such as planning and zoning facility rental special events and

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youth sports who want them to be able to fund themselves. And so we did talk

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about that a little bit at the previous workshop which resulted in some changes

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to our facility rental fees and our vendor fees for events and things like that

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which we talked about at that point. Some other changes that we made adjustments

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that we made between then and now were the addition of private provider fee

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deductions to our permitting review and inspection fees, which are required to provide pursuant

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to House Bill 803, which is a recent development on the state level.

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We included increases to our water and sewer connection fees and impact fees, which have

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to do with those increasing construction costs.

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We implemented a 12% increase to utility rates, which I believe is relatively consistent

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with the previous years, again due to the increases that we've been seeing and additional

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capital projects that need to be completed. We do have the implementation of the previous

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ordinance that you guys just read for the sewer-only customer increase as a note in there.

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Again, that and this will become effective October 1.

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And then I think the only other major

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ones are, we talked about increasing the youth support registration fees, but our Parks

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and Recreation Director also brought up

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that we need some adult sports recreation or registration fees

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as well, because we've been trying to do those.

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And so we need to help those be self-sufficient.

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So everything else we kind of went over that at that workshop.

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These are some of the other changes.

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But the overall financial impact is, again,

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to be able to provide services at the level that we have been

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or at a greater level in a physically responsible manner.

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So all that being said, Madam Clerk, if you could please read Ordinance 2035 into the record by title.

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Ordinance 2035. In Ordinance of the City of Presbyte Florida, providing for removal of reductions to building permit fees,

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providing for an amendment updating the comprehensive fee schedule, providing for authority, providing for amendment by resolution,

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providing for updates to form, format, and organization, providing for filing of this ordinance with the clerk of the circuit court of Oklahoma City County.

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Providing for separability, providing for scrivener's errors, providing for liberal interpretation,

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providing for repeal of conflicting codes and ordinances and providing for an effective

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date.

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This is ordinance 2035.

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All right.

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We'd be glad to take any questions that you have and may have to balance some of them to

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other staff, but the recommended action is approval of ordinance 2035 on first reading.

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One of the things that you may see in the fee schedule that Nick didn't talk about is,

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you know, with the change of the penny, the change of the change, we have done a lot of

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rounding to make sure that, you know, everything is to the to the nickel instead of to the penny, so it does look like there may be more changes than

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there are typical years, but that's just to account for that. Some of the other changes are there were no increases on the garbage this year.

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There were a lot of some of the fees that Nick talked about that you might not be super familiar with are fees that are often paid by the developers.

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So the question that we get a lot, you know, is, you know, why isn't the developer paying for this?

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So we want to make sure that we are offsetting those services as much as we can without discouraging some of our

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Necessary services as well

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You have any comments or questions from the council

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See a none actions. Please. Yeah, go ahead

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How I know you were talking about the use sports did we did they change the pricing for the county in the city?

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I've been changing a lot of fees. Let me go to that section and make a hundred percent sure

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I want someone to get to it before me.

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It was changed from 1665 to 70 and 85 for City and County.

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All right.

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Any other comments or questions?

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Action, please.

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Second.

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Motion by Councilman Frost, seconded by Councilman Hayes, to prove ordinance 2035 on first reading.

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Any discussion?

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All those in favor?

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Those opposed, motion carries, five to zero, and let me see what we're going now.

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Going on the resolution, 2026 to 16.

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All right.

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This is a resolution for the adoption of the 2026 Okolusa County Local Mitigation Strategy.

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So the Robert T Stafford Disaster Relief Act, that was modified by the Disaster Mitigation Act in 2000, requires local governments to develop a local mitigation strategy.

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and I don't know.

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It identifies the type of natural disasters that communities likely to experience. It defines hazard mitigation activities to reduce our vulnerability to the natural disasters. And it also has a project list that we can use to kind of leverage for grant funding to show it's a part of this process.

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for our specific sections. Our update is pretty big, but you can rest assured you didn't want

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the whole document. It's about 1100 pages. And ours is just a small piece of it. So I included

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that for you guys. But really for us, it's a lot of, you know, we keep the project list for the

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grants updated on a ongoing basis. But this is really updating data related to properties and flood

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zones, properties that are at risk of storm and fire damage and things like that. And then I think

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everybody in the county had to add something about winter storms because the last couple

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of years have been been way different with regard to those so we made sure that everyone

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had a section for that. So we just have to do this part so that we can get the final approval

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and get it get it sent up the chain. So all that being said Madam Clerk if you could please

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Please read Resolution 2026-16 into the record by title.

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Resolution 2026-16.

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A resolution of the City Council of the City of Crest View, Florida adopted in the 2026

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Ocalista County local mitigation strategy, providing for authority and providing for an effective

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date.

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This is Resolution 2026-16.

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All right, unless the council has any questions, staff respectfully request a motion to adopt

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Resolution 2026-16.

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Questions or comments?

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motion by councilman Allison second by councilman echoes to approve resolution 2026-16 any further comments. All those in favor?

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Those opposed. Motion carries 5-0.

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And we'll move right along someplace here.

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action item 10-1.

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So 10-1 is an open discussion for the council regarding

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cottage food home occupation and some changes to the land development code. So

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we take a look at our land development code as necessary essentially and so we

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have been receiving several questions and concerns from our citizens about how it

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relates to home-based businesses cottage foods, particularly as it comes to the

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The farm stand, bakery stand, you've probably seen them on Facebook, you may have even seen one in your neighborhood.

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The city for Walton recently changed theirs and I believe that Teneres and County did as well.

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And so we would like some direction from the council moving forward.

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We've established a couple of guidelines that we think would be amenable to both the business owner and the residents.

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So, things like making sure the square footage of this structure is maintainable.

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So within 20 square feet.

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So that's not 20 feet long.

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That's 20 square feet.

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I had to ask Nick about that earlier.

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No bigger than 8 foot tall.

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So, you know, the farm stand, bakery stand, whatever you want to call it.

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You know, has to fit within those dimensions.

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You know, not affecting parking in the neighborhood.

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So you'd have to park in the person's driveway, not on the right

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away or in the yard or anything like that.

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Last thing we want is a fight over parking in somebody's grass, right?

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Different things like that as well as the operation is between sunrise and sunset.

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So no nighttime hours, which is the same as how we do like yard sales and things like that.

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So it's pretty standard practice within the city limits already.

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And so we would love to know if you have any additional concerns as to what we have added in the agenda item or like I said if you've seen anything or if you have, you know, have had any citizens approach you about it to where we can make sure that we're taking in both sides of the story for sure.

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But it will be overly restrictive or go the other way.

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Okay. Okay. It looks as though Councilman Hayes, you want to be involved in a discussion.

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Go ahead.

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Not discussion, just something to make sure we observe and look into it to make sure

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that whatever, first of all, I'm bored. You know, as long as it's managed well, I think

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we can do that. The thing is, like a few people in the yard sale, they'll start Friday and

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They'll still be there next Friday.

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So we want to be forward when sunset that it's taken off

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down and it's not just sitting out their side of the road

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until the next morning.

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That's one of my concerns there.

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Did you say what day, sort of weeks?

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I don't believe there's a day restriction.

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So they'd be able to operate any day of the week

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as long as it's just daytime hours.

450
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But again, this is this is for discussion.

451
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,900
So if you have any in any commentary we can definitely take that into consideration moving forward

452
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:48,120
This is you know, not even the draft of an ordinance it there are restrictions in the LDC already so we would be you know

453
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:54,460
Moving forward after this it was soft to go before the planning zoning board before or planning development board before we brought back again

454
00:35:58,060 --> 00:35:59,280
Is there any

455
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,800
health department oversight or licensing these kitchens have to go through to

456
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,260
be able to do this. Thanks for bringing that up, Councilman Caps. Cottage

457
00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:12,320
foods are regulated by the state of Florida so there are guidelines that they

458
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,260
follow as well. It's definitely not the same as a commercial kitchen but again

459
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:21,240
this is kind of a growing industry. I don't I don't know if it's a trend. I don't

460
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:28,060
know how long it'll last but you know it's a you know entrepreneurship mindset

461
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:58,040
in our society right now, and so we're just not trying to discourage small business while at the same time we want to make sure that there are regulations to keep everyone safe, the cottage food rules from the state would govern the health and safety component, and then we want to make sure that as traffic in these neighborhoods increases, potentially increases, you know, we've found an appropriate mechanism to manage that, and code enforcement would be the one that would enforce said rules, so like if someone's neighbor was never putting theirs up, you know, say it's safe,

462
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,120
And they're not putting theirs away, then that would be something the code enforcement officers could address.

463
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,380
That's actually how this conversation started in the south end of the county was code enforcement got involved.

464
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:13,920
And then they realized that maybe the rules didn't have to be so prohibitive, we could meet in the middle.

465
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,100
And so in answer to Mr. Eckles' question, if for some reason, or was that Mr. Hayes, I'm sorry,

466
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:25,620
whoever's question that was about what happens if it's not turned down, that's where we go, too.

467
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:25,660
Thank you.

468
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,880
No, it's my request.

469
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:30,400
Just a question.

470
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:38,540
How would the homeowners do you know if that would affect homeowners' associations as to how they are able to use that?

471
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:44,020
So the homeowners' associations would continue to be able to govern that for themselves.

472
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:48,400
So if your homeowners' association didn't allow it, this would not supersede that.

473
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,680
It's a great question.

474
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,520
Yes, thank you for clarifying that.

475
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,140
just follow up on that.

476
00:37:58,970 --> 00:38:02,310
I guess I just have concerns and we're not in that

477
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:08,430
policing department, you know, as far as codes and such, but the heat here and

478
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:12,990
food, what kind of food are we talking, you know, is it limits the type of food is

479
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:17,210
sitting out in the 100 degree heat here? I just, you know, that's that's my own concern.

480
00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:24,630
So I do, I do believe that the state governs what can be sold, not refrigerated.

481
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:33,890
I think, and again, that's the state's rules, I don't know, but I think that it has to be considered shelf-stable and there are guidelines for shelf stability.

482
00:38:34,530 --> 00:38:45,530
But you know, I use those as examples, those are just examples. So, you know, a loaf of bread on a farm stand, you know, maybe final day, but it could be potatoes on the farm.

483
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:50,710
I don't know. You know, we're broadly saying cottage foods. It could be...

484
00:38:50,710 --> 00:39:01,970
Yeah, I I mean, there's nothing in this that would prohibit them from using some sort of cooling mechanism, but I don't I don't really have that kind of specifics available.

485
00:39:03,390 --> 00:39:10,270
That's just my own concerns, you know, but if there's, you know, obviously, that's not our duty that's the state and health department and so on, right?

486
00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:14,190
But they there are regulations for for what they can sell and how they can sell it. Yes, sir.

487
00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:16,250
That's what he is.

488
00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:20,710
Not a question, but more so a comment.

489
00:39:22,830 --> 00:39:25,530
There's a travel especially in Central Florida.

490
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:30,130
There's a big trend about these type of food stands.

491
00:39:30,750 --> 00:39:36,390
Quite a lot you see now, even if anybody follows you on Facebook.

492
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:43,030
But he's a well-known person who goes right now going to different cottage farms.

493
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:48,230
and advertise in them, you know, so people, so I think it would be good for our citizens.

494
00:39:50,530 --> 00:39:58,090
I don't think it would be any cost involved with our city except for maybe a, hopefully,

495
00:39:58,370 --> 00:40:01,710
a code enforcement can be resolved through conversation, you know.

496
00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:07,890
And I think it will, I trust our citizens to the aspect that we give this to them

497
00:40:07,890 --> 00:40:10,530
that they would treasure and do it wisely.

498
00:40:10,990 --> 00:40:12,910
So I like to see us go forward on this.

499
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:13,930
Thank you, Mr. Hayes.

500
00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:18,010
And on Mr. Hayes' point, the people that have reached out

501
00:40:18,010 --> 00:40:19,430
to us want to be compliant.

502
00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:21,450
And that's why we have brought this forward.

503
00:40:21,630 --> 00:40:24,670
It's because if the people want to be compliant,

504
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:26,830
we want to make sure that we're taking that into consideration.

505
00:40:27,570 --> 00:40:30,250
I would like to know more about what is considered

506
00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:34,230
cottage food, some more definitive definition of the fit

507
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:34,750
in that category.

508
00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:37,590
The state does have that, but a lot of what we're seeing

509
00:40:37,590 --> 00:40:46,810
in our area are specifically breads, homegrown fruits, jams, honey, assorted bakery items,

510
00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:51,090
you know, whether we cook or use or whatever. So kind of similar to we have a new business

511
00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:55,590
downtown, the downtown pantry. A lot of the foods that are sold in there are regulated

512
00:40:55,590 --> 00:41:00,870
as cottage foods, meaning they can be made at home, not in a commercial kitchen. I am not

513
00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:04,310
a subject matter expert on that, so I don't want to go in there too far. But people are

514
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:08,550
starting to, you know, just look into that kind of thing more.

515
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:11,450
We'll get you a list of the categories that are permissible.

516
00:41:12,010 --> 00:41:13,890
The city cannot regulate those things.

517
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:15,130
That's preemptive to the state.

518
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:18,710
The only thing we can regulate is the home occupation essentially.

519
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:22,850
What are the terms by which we'll allow somebody at their home to have that type of farm

520
00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:23,030
stand?

521
00:41:23,530 --> 00:41:26,810
We're not going to regulate and we can't regulate what they're actually selling.

522
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:27,730
That's somebody else.

523
00:41:27,730 --> 00:41:35,130
So what we're looking at is the mechanism to allow it at a home, not what they're actually

524
00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:35,510
selling.

525
00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:40,530
It's just whether they can do it and what are the terms that a home residents can do

526
00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:40,710
it.

527
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,700
Go ahead, Councilwoman Allison.

528
00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:50,280
One of the things that I've noticed is, and I have a friend that has one of these cottage

529
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:58,880
stands, a lot of these are moms who stay at home and they are trying to add to the family

530
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:07,560
income. And so I, you know, I commend their, as our city manager said, their entrepreneurship

531
00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:14,720
and their wanting to help out with the family finances by this way. And I'm glad that

532
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,920
we don't have to regulate, but just a small portion of it.

533
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:25,980
Any other comments or questions? So I guess what you're looking for, city manager, is

534
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:31,860
a consensus with the guidelines you presented for her to go back to the staff and create

535
00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:35,720
a draft to bring back everybody good with that.

536
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:37,100
All right.

537
00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:38,280
Do you have your consensus?

538
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:38,900
Yes sir.

539
00:42:38,980 --> 00:42:39,460
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

540
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,480
All right.

541
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:52,130
Next request.

542
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:53,110
Good

543
00:42:55,830 --> 00:42:56,190
evening.

544
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,740
Hmm.

545
00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:12,970
The clerk's office is in the process of updating our current public records portal from

546
00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:19,310
next request to just FOIA. Currently we use, my office uses next request to handle the

547
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:24,550
public records of all the requests that the city receives. The portal is used to facilitate

548
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:31,590
records, excuse me, requests of various different departments process and or charge payments

549
00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:39,250
and provide the request material if it's available. In working with the next request, it doesn't

550
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:42,350
have available functions that are needed to assist departments in

551
00:43:42,350 --> 00:43:45,710
redacting, processing deposits, and then final amounts.

552
00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:50,350
Because what the redacting, what happens is if they don't

553
00:43:50,350 --> 00:43:55,230
either have a redacting training or the ability to redact,

554
00:43:55,570 --> 00:44:00,210
it takes another person to read it, redact it, give it back

555
00:44:00,210 --> 00:44:02,610
to them, or just redact it, period.

556
00:44:05,170 --> 00:44:06,290
And that's time consuming.

557
00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:12,690
very time consuming. Processing deposits, I can't process the deposit. I have to

558
00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:17,290
charge a person the full amount instead of just giving them a deposit first and

559
00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:22,730
then the final amount. And tracking where the request is and how the request

560
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:28,250
is going is not easy in next request. It's very confusing. So after I'm reaching

561
00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:34,470
out to other city clerks, even local clerks, to see what they use and what they

562
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:39,770
like and what they don't like it seems that just FOIA seems to be the one that majority

563
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:44,570
of the clerks are either turning to or they've been using long time.

564
00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:50,230
So I reached out to just FOIA I spoke to a representative I went through a demonstration

565
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:58,750
I spoke to the city manager before this demonstration and then I did another demonstration for all

566
00:44:58,750 --> 00:44:59,970
of the employees that

567
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,860
I use next request, our public portal, and I ask them if they had any questions, if they think this would be, you know, something they can use too. They all agreed. Then I spoke to the city manager and the deputy finance manager about the next steps and how it would benefit the city. So, and the proposed contract has been reviewed by the city attorney and the finance director.

568
00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:33,880
The transition to the new system is expected to take six to eight weeks.

569
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,180
They offer training to the new employees.

570
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,820
They offer training when we transfer over, continue training.

571
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:48,500
A lot of things that I have to figure out, they already have it there.

572
00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:51,780
So you basically pay for what you get.

573
00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:57,300
And right now I feel like we're not paying for a system that's beneficial to provide the

574
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:03,050
customer service that our citizens need. Does anybody have any questions for

575
00:46:03,050 --> 00:46:09,130
me? Yeah go ahead. I'll say on the proposal contract it says just for

576
00:46:09,130 --> 00:46:15,850
a subscription pro-ration or I'm sorry. Where's that? Oh here it is. On the

577
00:46:15,850 --> 00:46:21,610
select premium it says the community up to 3,000 requests. What happens after

578
00:46:21,610 --> 00:46:27,830
3,000 requests and do we know how many requests we usually get in a year? We

579
00:46:27,830 --> 00:46:30,550
We don't ever get close to 3,000 requests in a year.

580
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:33,090
But if we do get over what happens?

581
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:40,270
You have to, we would have to pay a little bit more for those 3,000 requests, but since

582
00:46:40,270 --> 00:46:45,910
we've been using a public records portal, I think the most we've ever gotten is maybe, if

583
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:50,390
people are asking, asking, asking, asking is maybe 1,500,

584
00:46:52,740 --> 00:46:54,720
close to 2,000, I'm sorry, closer

585
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,360
It's closer to 2000, but we've never reached 3,000.

586
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,580
Any other comments?

587
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,260
Go ahead.

588
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:03,720
That's all right.

589
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:06,000
Did we just change this a couple of years ago?

590
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,100
Like, to go to net request?

591
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,380
We didn't.

592
00:47:09,580 --> 00:47:11,080
Well, at first we didn't have anything.

593
00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:16,000
And when the previous city clerk was appointed,

594
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,820
she used the system first,

595
00:47:20,980 --> 00:47:23,200
because that was what she thought would be helpful

596
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,580
and over time when we needed changes done,

597
00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:28,440
either they could not do it or it was something

598
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,980
that was going to take a long time to do

599
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:32,580
and we had to pay for every change we asked for.

600
00:47:33,140 --> 00:47:36,040
Madam Clerk, if you don't mind, just a little bit of history.

601
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:39,640
Part of the other reason the original vendor was selected

602
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,920
is because it was part of kind of a package.

603
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:45,820
So we use that same company for several different services.

604
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,700
We have slowly been moving away from those services

605
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,820
because we weren't getting the quality of product

606
00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:52,700
from that company that we expected

607
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:56,700
As Natasha mentioned, it's the same case in this situation.

608
00:47:57,460 --> 00:48:00,900
Additionally, that was a concern that I had as well, Councilman Capson.

609
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,940
That's why Natasha detailed the process that we went through to come to this decision.

610
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:11,260
We involved all of those departments and said, hey, I know we got training recently, you

611
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:17,760
know, is this too much, and everyone was interested in a new solution because they have, at this

612
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,700
point, been using this so long enough to realize that it's not helping them be more efficient.

613
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:30,780
We are, unfortunately, to go on with Councilman Frost said, we are getting more requests every year so that it is important for us to grow our efficiency.

614
00:48:30,940 --> 00:48:42,840
Thankfully, we haven't reached that 3,000 number yet, but as we continue to get more and more, you know, these staff members really are looking forward to some additional tools to help them in that, but that was my initial concern to Councilman Capps.

615
00:48:42,840 --> 00:49:01,460
Well, yeah, and my concern is, you know, a year ago, we had an issue with public records and, you know, it just don't want to, you know, we need to take care of this and make sure we're doing it right and make sure this system is going to be exactly what we need because we were led to believe next request was yet.

616
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:08,080
And it apparently was not so unfortunately sometimes the lowest cost option is not in fact the best option.

617
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:15,660
So this one is not significantly more expensive, but it does have significantly enhanced features.

618
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:22,200
And so part of the reason for the timing of this request is to ensure that there is no double payment,

619
00:49:22,580 --> 00:49:26,580
there's no, you know, anything weird like that, one will end as the other one starts,

620
00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:31,100
and they'll provide the training for free, and there's really no crossover or anything like that.

621
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:37,360
It's it's so as much as I say this software package does have more features. It is still a relatively simple software

622
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:47,920
I thought I saw you might come on how many if if we exceed

623
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,440
3,000 is there do they have in place a

624
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:54,880
fee rate

625
00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:57,500
In jumps after that

626
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,080
Do you know I'm saying like if we if we hit 3,000

627
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:08,000
instead of paying individually per request is the next

628
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,320
fee jump, let's say 4,000.

629
00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:11,940
This is the community tier, so it would be a different package.

630
00:50:12,540 --> 00:50:13,800
We would have to get you that Christ.

631
00:50:14,580 --> 00:50:16,280
But typically, yes, that's how it works.

632
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,920
As they would bump us up to the next tier, not necessarily like,

633
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:21,980
everyone remembers the old-school phone plans where after you went

634
00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:23,320
over your minutes, it became an issue.

635
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:25,720
I don't imagine that it would be like that, no.

636
00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:28,620
They would just say, oh, you're a bigger city than we thought.

637
00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:44,360
Councilman Nichols. So it's this process what tracks public records which has been done, the ones being done, or is it just those that's been done are sort of dormant?

638
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:55,700
It's all of it. So it would take in the new request, help us track who they've been assigned to if they paid, not weren't required to pay whatever the situation is, and then it stores them when they're done as well.

639
00:50:55,700 --> 00:51:02,340
So we can go back and say, you know, say someone requests the same thing, or someone, you know, says they didn't get their file or whatever.

640
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:11,140
So it sounds like this would be a manpower increase with the sufficiency of the system and the way it works.

641
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:20,740
Yes. So the clerk mentioned, the biggest thing is, some of these requests do have exempt information in them, and so we have to go back and

642
00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:23,100
and redact them, and that's the biggest thing

643
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,680
that our current software is lacking

644
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,560
is a useful, helpful redaction tool.

645
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,120
And so this new software, they were able to demonstrate it

646
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,160
for us, we've used it.

647
00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:33,520
Ms. Peacock has even talked to other clerks

648
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,660
that use the software currently.

649
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,040
And so that's gonna be the biggest thing right now.

650
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,360
We're having to manually redact documents

651
00:51:39,860 --> 00:51:42,340
when it's, you know, say it's a personnel document,

652
00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:43,880
it's got some social security number on it,

653
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:46,000
things like that, we have to go in and manually do that,

654
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:47,660
where this software will help with that.

655
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:54,660
So this packet come with automatic updates to the software, or is it?

656
00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:55,600
Yes.

657
00:51:55,820 --> 00:52:00,600
It's software as a service, so it would be updated as most cloud softwares would be.

658
00:52:02,060 --> 00:52:04,640
And being in the trenches and having to deal with this a little bit,

659
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:08,500
without being like too blunt, it can't be worse than what we have.

660
00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:10,960
I can say it's good.

661
00:52:12,340 --> 00:52:20,700
Yes, just an observation, as I was hearing from the last clerks in the Nelson Minor things

662
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:22,980
that might have been major, they came up.

663
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:29,020
But what I'm looking at, and like I told our clerk, my main thing is our public records.

664
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:37,400
And if we look at the price, one thing gone wrong and one suit, then we wish we would have

665
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,220
about 10 of them, 10 different systems to do that.

666
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,220
So can we build a better mouth strap?

667
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,120
Yes, we can.

668
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,060
Can we get it for the same price?

669
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:48,420
No, we can't, but it's a better mouth strap.

670
00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:55,280
So I trust our city manager as well as our city clerk

671
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,040
to make a wise decision based on information

672
00:52:58,460 --> 00:53:02,020
that they gather to move our city forward as we're going now.

673
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:04,260
So I will be supporting this.

674
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:08,280
I can say that last year we had 1,000 in one request.

675
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:13,660
If we get close to 3,000 requests, you need to come see me.

676
00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:16,220
We're getting dangerous in there.

677
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:18,760
I know we're not near close to that.

678
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,660
And in 2024 it was 990.

679
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,000
You could get there.

680
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,120
You might have a group of citizens that get upset about something

681
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,520
and all have the city right to you.

682
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,620
But people will understand that public records request

683
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:37,420
and the value of somebody that's handling it quite well in the system that

684
00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:42,800
hounds it well. You want to see a city get sued over public record request then

685
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,080
you probably can go down and help them start paying some money that they're paying

686
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,100
out for years.

687
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:59,800
Madam Clerk, the software with my previous job I know the labor

688
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:08,160
intense city involved in redacting for documents especially those being presented to the courts but

689
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:19,880
will it populate across so that if you have to redact from say here will it maintain

690
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:26,320
that redaction say if it should come up again do you understand I'm saying yes okay this is how it

691
00:54:27,620 --> 00:54:34,440
You start redacting, right? You put in exactly that person in that department will put in what needs to be redacted.

692
00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:42,980
The name, security numbers, address, birth dates, family members. It will go through that process and start blocking it out.

693
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:54,600
The second person may be their supervisor. Then they have the ability to read through it to see that you blocked everything and then they secure it with a lock.

694
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,700
so then you lock it and then if we have to because sometimes we get the same

695
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:06,580
repeated requests for those for those from the police department that we get

696
00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:11,480
repeated requests from the YouTube people they actually have a way that we

697
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:17,780
can keep that information online so when the request another request comes in I

698
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:20,740
don't have to bother the police department because everything has already been

699
00:55:20,740 --> 00:55:24,860
done. It's already been redacted and I can just send that information. That's exactly

700
00:55:24,860 --> 00:55:30,720
what I was referring to. Thank you for bringing the language to it that I didn't have.

701
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:33,320
Oh no problem. Any other comments or questions?

702
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,740
All right, ready for action.

703
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,220
Motion by

704
00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:47,380
Councilman Frost, second by Councilman Hayes to approve the contract and be just for you.

705
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:48,380
I'm sorry.

706
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,820
Any discussion on that?

707
00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:54,160
Who was the most important

708
00:55:56,590 --> 00:56:01,110
person to make a motion?

709
00:56:01,710 --> 00:56:02,690
Oh, who made the motion?

710
00:56:04,070 --> 00:56:05,090
Oh, okay.

711
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:06,250
It was Cosmic Frost.

712
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:11,100
Okay.

713
00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:13,300
Any further discussion?

714
00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:14,840
All those in favor?

715
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,380
Those opposed.

716
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:19,880
And motion carries 5-0.

717
00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:34,540
In a local agreement, localist county animal services.

718
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:35,880
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

719
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:38,900
Some of you may have noticed we have a special guest with us tonight.

720
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:46,080
Deputy County Administrator Craig Coffey is here with us while we discuss what was presented last week at the County Commissioner's meeting.

721
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:51,220
So some of you may have already before you got this in your agenda packet even seen it.

722
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:59,720
So the city was approached by the county because we are doing such a fantastic job providing animal services within our jurisdiction.

723
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,200
to look into providing it for the North County overall.

724
00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:08,880
We were supportive of this plan because animals don't know jurisdictions,

725
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:12,720
they don't know if their home is in the 325-9 to 325-36

726
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,200
or some other magical area.

727
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:20,700
And so I do believe that it will be a great benefit to our citizens as well as those

728
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:25,460
residing in the unincorporated area just to have a one stop shop,

729
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:27,020
one place that they know to go.

730
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:34,940
but additionally, the county has been great partners throughout this contract communication session that we have been having back and forth.

731
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:45,600
One of the great benefits that we're looking for is beginning the inmate program so we can take inmate from the county jail, bring them into the animal shelter.

732
00:57:46,260 --> 00:57:57,000
Not only will they be providing some cleaning services and helping the animal socialize but it's a great benefit to the inmates to get out and get that experience.

733
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,980
And again, it really helps the animals to be socialized to get adopted faster.

734
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,480
So when you have an animal spend less time in the shelter, they get adopted faster.

735
00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:08,900
They typically don't get returned, things like that.

736
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:14,080
So those are some of the things that we're really looking forward to as long as well as in this agreement.

737
00:58:14,540 --> 00:58:20,500
It allows for the county to oversee the remodeling of what we previously referred to as the building of facility maintenance warehouse.

738
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:26,260
house. That warehouse has been used for storage for the past couple of years and we will

739
00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:31,280
be remodeling it into the new animal control shelter. This is not a new plan. We've been

740
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,000
working towards it for several several years, but funding and size and, you know, overall

741
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,360
there were a couple of issues there that we were looking into. Now that, you know, we have

742
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:50,480
partners, we know that we'll have the need countywide. That is going to be a project that

743
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:56,020
I'd be glad to open the floor to any questions and I'd like to give Mr. Coffee a minute to speak on the county's behalf.

744
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,920
If you want to approach the party, please go ahead.

745
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,520
Just Mr. Mayor, I'll just say I'm impressed with your meeting.

746
00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:14,140
It's been very efficient and I think we could probably learn some more things at the county and how to run an efficient and a very business-like meeting.

747
00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:17,600
So thank you very much, it's an honor to be here before you tonight.

748
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,520
It's been great working with your staff.

749
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:25,740
We've tried to hammer out what I consider a very fair balance agreement and try to create a win-win situation

750
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,480
At one time and she will tell you this that we talked about us trying to create a

751
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,540
County-wide one and we were in that mindset

752
00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:40,880
I think and and we find ourselves really where you guys were several years ago at the at the mercy of pause

753
00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:48,440
And saying hey, we don't want to you. We don't want to serve you anymore. We want to charge you this or that or we want to do this and

754
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,220
And so we tried to figure this out, and again, we approached it from the other way, and we

755
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:57,120
tried, okay, how can we partner with something good you guys have already started?

756
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,460
So there's no sense in re-emending the wheel.

757
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
This is strictly for the north end of the county. We'll have a completely different service that we're working on the south end, but we're working and scrambling just like you guys were again several years ago. She mentioned the inmates, the facility we were proposing a good split there, 65, 35. We have a great facilities team that Mr. Peters and his team. I know you have one of the Peters on your stuff there, so it's kind of a family thing. But I will tell you that it's been a pleasure working with you.

758
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:34,820
with your staff. We've been very impressed. Your city manager is great to work with and I think she's

759
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:43,120
put a great partnership with you and a great business plan together for us for this venture. So

760
01:00:43,740 --> 01:00:48,720
we're excited and we hope you guys are too. I think we have some other questions for Mr.

761
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:57,420
Coffee. Well, he's at the microphone for me. Go ahead. Well, first, you know, you pay him for

762
01:00:57,420 --> 01:00:59,540
the plot. It is refuted.

763
01:01:01,740 --> 01:01:04,540
I was going to say you can't have the mayor. He stays here.

764
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,760
But I did reading through this. It says north of England Air Force Base. Is that north

765
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:17,200
of the rivers or is that include rattlesnake blav? Because I know that I've heard that's

766
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:26,260
kind of a popular animal dump area. Well, that's sad. So we actually went back and forth

767
01:01:26,260 --> 01:01:30,880
on that point and we did end with the jurisdictional boundaries of the Air Force Base that would be

768
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,280
anything north of the reservation. Some of that area is a little confusing right there in the river

769
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:44,120
area. But for just the clarity, the easy understanding of staff, everyone seems to know where the Air Force

770
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:49,180
Base is and so it will be everything north of the Air Force Base. We looked at that and if you pull

771
01:01:49,180 --> 01:01:54,560
up our GIS, you could see some of that where the show river kind of goes and goes north south to and

772
01:01:54,560 --> 01:02:00,640
That really wasn't that was gonna leave a little little stretches of no man's land where there really aren't a lot of residents

773
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,640
But there's occasional person here or there. Hopefully that dump spot. That's not a good thing. Well

774
01:02:07,460 --> 01:02:09,600
Yeah, I've had a couple of citizens mentioned

775
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Sure a lot of they hear that's a dump spot. I guess you know social media or whatever. Okay, which I don't read so

776
01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:21,400
It's close to town they can quickly get up there and dump an animal

777
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:27,360
I hate that, but yeah, just want to make sure we take care of that area, I think that's the case.

778
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:29,000
Yes, sir.

779
01:02:31,060 --> 01:02:32,460
Go ahead, Councilor Mahesh.

780
01:02:32,620 --> 01:02:33,780
This is to Mr. Coffee.

781
01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:38,560
He might not know the answer of City Manager, maybe I do it.

782
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,520
What are you going to do with those pot belly pigs?

783
01:02:43,580 --> 01:02:45,820
And that's the specific letter.

784
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,220
We do have a pot belly ordinance on our books, but...

785
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:52,660
from back in the day of the trains, right?

786
01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:56,740
Yes, one day we'll tell you the hilarious story

787
01:02:56,740 --> 01:02:58,720
about the Crescue Pig, but not today.

788
01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:01,640
Because we run an efficient meeting here, Mr. Hayes.

789
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,900
Then we've got to have some laughter

790
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:04,700
every once in a while.

791
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,700
So somewhat realistically on that note,

792
01:03:07,780 --> 01:03:09,920
though, we will be continuing to partner

793
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,620
with the City of Laurel Hill for the North End facility

794
01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:17,580
in case there is a livestock or large animal issue

795
01:03:17,580 --> 01:03:28,100
So, that will be coming back to you at a future meeting potentially if we have any high dollar repairs that are needed in the barn area of that facility.

796
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:38,540
We've been maintaining that facility for years now so it won't be, it's not a new partnership but I want to be clear that we are continuing that partnership with them as we move forward.

797
01:03:38,540 --> 01:03:46,520
So, is that we have that large space just in case there is that kind of a situation which we very, very,

798
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,940
very, very much hope that there's not, but we always got to be prepared.

799
01:03:51,340 --> 01:03:52,960
We have a facility in Baker too.

800
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:05,300
I just want to say thank you to the county and to Miss Levens for working together to get this,

801
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,700
which is, you know, it's becoming an increasing issue, I think nationwide.

802
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:20,260
and I'm glad that we're addressing it and I hope that as a result there will be fewer

803
01:04:20,260 --> 01:04:26,780
animals that have to be transported back and forth and this will take care of

804
01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:31,680
everybody and but I appreciate the work that y'all put in and your teams to come

805
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,820
to this agreement and I think that it's a very fair agreement and I'm certainly I'm

806
01:04:36,820 --> 01:04:37,740
certainly for it.

807
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:44,900
Because, but echoes, since I stepped into this arena, there's been very high issue on

808
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:45,260
animals.

809
01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:46,440
But there's one question, though.

810
01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:52,000
And I think there was a hundred K or something that was given, will that money go into

811
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:52,580
this as well?

812
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:52,940
Yes, sir.

813
01:04:53,260 --> 01:04:57,580
So you'll see on the staff report that there's a not-to-exceed number that we're moving forward

814
01:04:57,580 --> 01:05:00,440
with for the construction project, and that does include the donation.

815
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:09,660
So the donation was for the construction of an animal facility, and so with that donation, they will get the naming rights.

816
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:14,480
The county has agreed to allow us to utilize the naming rights as a part of this project.

817
01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:26,420
And so it will be the Chimiac Animal Care Facility, or however we end up naming that based on the previously agreed upon donation agreement.

818
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:36,900
any other comments all right I'll just make a comment to you and this this is a

819
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:42,440
very well drawn out a bit complicated and you all just did a great job

820
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,420
great job bringing it working together and and that's what it's all about

821
01:05:47,420 --> 01:05:51,900
is partnerships and and working together to get things done for the benefit of

822
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:57,380
the citizens and our animals you know so thank you for that thank you and thank

823
01:05:57,380 --> 01:06:00,820
It took two meetings and one draft, right?

824
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:08,720
I mean, being realistic, when Mr. Coffee personally got involved in two meetings and one draft from the county, one from back and we had an agreement.

825
01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:11,380
It should always work that way and it did this time.

826
01:06:12,220 --> 01:06:12,840
Thank you.

827
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,520
All right, having said that, looking for action,

828
01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:22,510
motion by Councilman Hayes, who had the second?

829
01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:28,810
Councilwoman Allison, second, to approve this interlocal agreement.

830
01:06:29,570 --> 01:06:31,450
Any discussion, further discussion?

831
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:33,770
Seeing none of those in favor.

832
01:06:34,410 --> 01:06:36,670
Those opposed, motion carries five to zero.

833
01:06:38,090 --> 01:06:39,330
All right, now,

834
01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:48,360
Madam Clerk, anything more for us?

835
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:49,820
You dismissed.

836
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,700
Thank you.

837
01:06:52,860 --> 01:06:57,220
Yes, they're at the next month. There will be a Northwest Florida League of

838
01:06:57,220 --> 01:07:01,180
Cities dinner, which may or I know you're not going to be at, but it's on the

839
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:07,180
24th in Milton. I put it on the calendar. The Council calendar already. And if you

840
01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:10,800
know that you're going to go, please go ahead and accept so I can start writing

841
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:16,060
names and getting everybody registered. You know, we got that right. They'll be

842
01:07:16,060 --> 01:07:20,260
interesting going to Milton. All the years I've been on, we've never gone to

843
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:23,020
for a dinner like that school.

844
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:24,760
Oh, I have one more idea.

845
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:25,220
Yeah, go ahead.

846
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,820
I just want to say that our council member, Hayes,

847
01:07:30,460 --> 01:07:32,300
he did represent the city of Crestview

848
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:34,780
well this past Saturday, yeah, this Saturday,

849
01:07:34,940 --> 01:07:36,120
if that's 20, this one.

850
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:41,000
At the Air Force Armament Museum,

851
01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:44,760
they did a presentation and a commemoration

852
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,020
on Augustus Guss Tarte.

853
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:56,180
and he did a very, very good job. He didn't tell me he was going to be there, but he did

854
01:07:56,180 --> 01:07:58,140
a very good job and he kept his three minutes.

855
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,540
Yeah, I wish I'd been in town. Let's see that.

856
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,020
Okay, city manager.

857
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:14,860
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just a couple of updates. We did discuss the cottage foods earlier

858
01:08:14,860 --> 01:08:19,980
today and I mentioned that it would be going before the planning board before it came back as a full ordinance.

859
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,960
It's a similar situation for the data center ordinance we talked about last time.

860
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,060
I just wanted to let everyone know that's why it hasn't been back yet.

861
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,760
It'll go before the planning board and then it'll get properly advertised and then you'll see it again in its first reading format.

862
01:08:33,820 --> 01:08:37,260
A couple more updates.

863
01:08:38,220 --> 01:08:41,840
Some of you may have seen the concerns that came out about the splash pad at Twin Hills Park.

864
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,760
So, that facility is still closed at the moment.

865
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,480
We are addressing the issue.

866
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,380
We've cleaned the splash pad.

867
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,520
We're not necessarily 100% sure that the paint was the issue,

868
01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:55,020
but it has been removed nonetheless.

869
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,260
And so, we are going to monitor the situation for a couple days.

870
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,020
We have had an excessive amount of rain and some other environmental features

871
01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:05,060
that could have led to the discoloration.

872
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,300
But for now, we're going to start with, we pressure washed it.

873
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:10,240
The paint's been removed. It's fully clean.

874
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,400
and now we're going to keep it closed for just a little while and see how it

875
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:20,720
trends and make sure we don't have any additional problems with that device

876
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,600
facility, whatever you want to call, what makes the water come out of the

877
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,220
slash pad, but unfortunately there did seem to be a little bit of growth there and

878
01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:31,740
so it'll be closed for a little while while we can monitor that situation and

879
01:09:31,740 --> 01:09:35,160
find out what the root cause of the problem is. Unfortunately we do think in

880
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,420
Florida it was environmental, you know, we get all sorts of pollen and bugs and

881
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:53,920
and all sorts of things and so we're just going to make sure that we keep it a little bit cleaner out there and see how that goes, but it should be reopening soon once we can make sure that, like I said, it's not a more elaborate problem that the cleaning and the paint removal took care of that.

882
01:09:54,780 --> 01:10:08,060
The senior center was initially closed to have the floor redone and when we closed that we found some additional issues due to moisture infiltration

883
01:10:08,060 --> 01:10:12,340
in from the outside to moisture coming in from the outside, not a good thing.

884
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:16,180
And so we had to go get some additional quotes, find out what a full repair was going to

885
01:10:16,180 --> 01:10:16,880
look like on that.

886
01:10:17,660 --> 01:10:22,640
We have got the quotes back for the cleaning of the facility and some other gutters and some

887
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,460
other things like that.

888
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,840
It's come luckily it came in below the bit amount so that won't take the extended process

889
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,620
of having to go out to bid and advertise on all those things.

890
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:35,340
They'll be able to get started with that repair a lot sooner because through our purchasing

891
01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:40,460
policy they just got the three quotes. Unfortunately it did take a while because it was three quotes for each

892
01:10:40,460 --> 01:10:45,140
different trade so we've been getting a lot of questions about that so I just want to clarify that for all of you

893
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,660
but they hope to move forward with the repairs of starting as early as next week depending on how soon those

894
01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:55,600
contractors can get out there. So again gutters we got to make sure all the moisture is getting away from

895
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,420
the building and then some cleaning and then we will end with the new floors and the facility being reopened.

896
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:05,160
I do not have a firm timeline for that because they got to get on the schedule for all the contractors first

897
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,180
first, but I have spoken personally with some of the senior center groups and let them

898
01:11:09,180 --> 01:11:13,560
know that as soon as we get the timeline, we will publish it, and I hope to have a timeline

899
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,700
very soon within the next couple weeks, but we had to find out that dollar amount first

900
01:11:17,700 --> 01:11:21,500
because it was above our threshold, then it was going to have to come before you guys

901
01:11:21,500 --> 01:11:24,980
and take a lot longer. Luckily, we got some good quotes back.

902
01:11:26,620 --> 01:11:30,100
The next thing that we have coming up is the opening of the Arts and Learning Center.

903
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:34,860
that will be just before the next Council meeting, August 14th, September 14th.

904
01:11:34,860 --> 01:11:35,540
Sorry about that.

905
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,280
And so we're really excited about that, times galores working on a really nice time for

906
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:40,760
that building.

907
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:45,980
And I know us as well as our sponsors and our nonprofit partners are all very excited

908
01:11:45,980 --> 01:11:46,480
about that.

909
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,940
I think that the flyers already been put out on social media, but if not we'll make sure

910
01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:52,500
that all you guys get a copy.

911
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,640
That will be that Monday, the very next day we will have our first town hall where we discuss

912
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:03,220
All of the wonderful ways we spend money in the city of Crossview so that we can have

913
01:12:03,220 --> 01:12:07,760
those conversations before the vote for the amendment three on Properties Access.

914
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,040
So we encourage everyone to come out September 15th will be at the library.

915
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:16,200
So we're just going to, like I said, we'll have representation from all the different departments.

916
01:12:16,220 --> 01:12:18,320
We'd love to see as many council members as we can there.

917
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,160
And we're just going to discuss with people just the facts.

918
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,280
It's just an educational session on where we get our money and how we spend it.

919
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:33,140
and so we'll have those every not every Tuesday in September but the 14th I'm

920
01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:36,640
sorry the 15th the the Tuesday after that the Tuesday after that so we'll

921
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,660
start with the library the Tuesday after that we'll move to the rock and the

922
01:12:39,660 --> 01:12:43,340
last Tuesday in September will be at the golf course sorry Councilman Eccles we

923
01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:46,620
tried to find somewhere in your district but we don't own any buildings over

924
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:54,280
there so the golf courses as close as we could get they'll all start at 5.30 we

925
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,700
We missed the finance update.

926
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:56,960
You have a question to comment.

927
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,540
We'll come back to you, Gina.

928
01:12:59,660 --> 01:13:05,120
I had a, I think you actually spoke with her also a senior citizen

929
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,540
that called about the senior center.

930
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:06,920
Yes, sir.

931
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:10,980
I don't have my list on me, but she did bring up issues with the bathroom.

932
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:14,400
Do you know if that's part of the repairs as far as having?

933
01:13:14,580 --> 01:13:18,160
I think she said the door and maybe some like, I guess,

934
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,900
like pull up bars, what she was calling it?

935
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,600
So I'll have to specifically look into the pull up bars

936
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,160
because the bathrooms are ADA accessible, so I believe the bullet bar should have been there.

937
01:13:27,620 --> 01:13:32,520
We did have an issue with some of the actual cubicles and those will be being replaced.

938
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:33,080
Okay.

939
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,060
Is there anything in there that calls to questions?

940
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,540
Is there anything that you can post today to send your senders and let do?

941
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:48,500
So it's posted that it's closed, but it's closed indefinitely and unfortunately that is still

942
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:48,860
the answer.

943
01:13:49,060 --> 01:13:49,860
It is indefinitely.

944
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:54,180
Once we get a better timeline from the contractors, we will provide more information.

945
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:59,440
If you've ever had anything repaired in your home, construction timelines are kind of vague

946
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:00,100
intentionally.

947
01:14:00,820 --> 01:14:04,440
They run into delays, so we're trying not to over-promise.

948
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:10,140
We don't want people setting up on Tuesday for their card game and there's still paint fumes

949
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:10,660
going on.

950
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:16,040
So we are working to narrow that timeline as down as much as we can, but I only got the final

951
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,900
quotes in today.

952
01:14:17,900 --> 01:14:23,260
Okay, that's, you know, these smaller jobs can be very difficult to get quotes for, you

953
01:14:23,260 --> 01:14:27,260
know, it's not as, you know, you could paint a whole subdivision or you can paint

954
01:14:27,260 --> 01:14:27,860
one building.

955
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:31,000
Cosmetic.

956
01:14:31,740 --> 01:14:37,600
There's just a couple things, the sound system downtown, how are we coming with that, for

957
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,380
one, that way?

958
01:14:38,860 --> 01:14:44,120
I would let Nick speak on it, but for the sake of time, we are making some sufficient progress.

959
01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:46,780
We think, did you get a date?

960
01:14:46,780 --> 01:14:52,520
end of September I wanted to say end of September I'm glad I was right so we're

961
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:59,840
hoping to have yes sir in September 2026 we hope to be able to

962
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
Utilize that. So we'll, you know, see me back at the fall festival. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but they are the subcontractor is actively working on it. I know that we had some emails going back and forth about the network configuration just last week. Yeah. We got to have some music. I'm here to dance by. Yeah. The other thing he doesn't do this, but a lot of citizens doing out of out of town. People, RC track cover. I know it's a well move along. I don't know. Haven't been by there in a week or so.

963
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:32,180
So, what's the status of that right now?

964
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,580
It is making some significant progress.

965
01:15:34,580 --> 01:15:37,260
Yes, we're seeing some significant progress.

966
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:44,880
I don't have an expected opening date quite yet, but hopefully I think they have their

967
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:45,760
big race in October.

968
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:48,300
I think that's the plan is to be completed by then.

969
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,460
I'll get you a final update.

970
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,700
The bathrooms are coming along actually faster than we thought.

971
01:15:54,220 --> 01:15:58,480
So we had to install a little lift station over there and they've gotten all the parts

972
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:05,320
for that so we're really excited about that and then the next thing will be

973
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:11,020
fire station 3 and so we're hoping to do both of those in October. Oh have

974
01:16:11,020 --> 01:16:15,200
the openings for both of those in October. And it's just observation to I

975
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,980
know if our council members are for me with their not but there's a project board

976
01:16:19,980 --> 01:16:24,320
that's in here and see hall and when you're not doing some work by and look at the

977
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,880
project that's going on and stopping inquire about what status they are, so

978
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,720
just for information purposes only.

979
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,680
I think we'll come into questions. I skipped the

980
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,000
finance report. We have

981
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,540
several financial statements to present this evening

982
01:16:49,540 --> 01:16:54,740
including April May and June as well as the cash carry forward for the quarter

983
01:16:54,740 --> 01:17:01,040
ended June. This report does reflect an unrestricted cash balance of around

984
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:08,140
10 million. We also have the check registers for June and July for your review, and I'd

985
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:13,120
be happy to try and answer any questions. Any comments, questions, or finance directors?

986
01:17:13,980 --> 01:17:15,080
Say, none, you're off to hook.

987
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,640
Okay, moving on to the council. Councilman Allison, welcome,

988
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:28,900
welcome back. I'm glad you said you went well, and you have anything to share with us this

989
01:17:28,900 --> 01:17:31,260
evening. No, sir, it's good to be back in the saddle.

990
01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:39,560
All right. Councilman Eccles, I know you wanted to do a verbal report on some of the fantastic

991
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:44,380
information you got at the Florida League of Cities. So go ahead and share something

992
01:17:44,380 --> 01:17:48,480
with us. All right, got two things. One is that I know that we had talked about making

993
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:53,520
a resolution for the data centers. And after thinking about that and after leaving, is there

994
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:59,160
any way that we can get some factual information on the different types of data centers, what

995
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:04,740
What would be any cost to residents and those type of things before we actually get to

996
01:18:04,740 --> 01:18:05,760
the resolution on that?

997
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:06,760
Yes, sir.

998
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:08,080
It was an ordinance.

999
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:13,360
It was an addition to the LDC to provide prohibitions and we'll make sure that that information

1000
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:13,780
is provided.

1001
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,800
Thank you for reaching out and requesting and we are still working on gathering all of that

1002
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,560
and making sure that as you said it is factual.

1003
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:27,500
And just for this group, I believe what Mr. Eccles is referencing is there's a big difference

1004
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:31,360
between a large scale data center and a small scale data center, and he just wants to make sure

1005
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,120
that we all have the facts in front of us before we make the decision, and so we will make sure

1006
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:42,140
that gets included in the staff report, or attach the agenda, and that you'll get it before a vote

1007
01:18:42,140 --> 01:18:43,560
is taken at first reading.

1008
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:56,520
I've had a lot of discussion from people about the data center, so if we could possibly make

1009
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:04,680
that a public education type thing for those who are have strong feelings one way or

1010
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:10,780
the other so when we get all those facts if we could possibly post it on our city page

1011
01:19:10,780 --> 01:19:17,860
so that they know here's how we are based in our decision it's not just what we won't

1012
01:19:17,860 --> 01:19:23,700
or don't want it's based on these facts as to why we will or will not do this.

1013
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,360
All right. Well, first of all, I thought it was, that was my first time at the legal

1014
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:37,660
city conference, and it was, it was just awesome. I thought it was great, because just

1015
01:19:37,660 --> 01:19:43,340
coming on, there was a lot of the different sessions and things that you wouldn't think

1016
01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:47,120
to ask questions about, that they just brought it forth to talk about. But I want to talk

1017
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:53,480
about two things. One was the practical disaster playbook that I was sitting on the session.

1018
01:19:53,480 --> 01:20:01,580
and what it talked about was how to be ready for disaster and disaster readiness when it happens.

1019
01:20:02,140 --> 01:20:07,860
And they talked about the before plan, and the before plan was making sure that we had good plans,

1020
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:17,640
contracts, communications, supplies, and the documentation had already been pre-reviewed and made ready

1021
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,760
so that we would be able to push those plans forward.

1022
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:26,680
And after having been reviewed, they would go through a lot faster, which I thought was a good thing.

1023
01:20:26,780 --> 01:20:33,420
The other thing was that if we had any emergency operation centers that wanted to things that we should do during our drills,

1024
01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:38,860
just make sure that we practice the relocation of the operation centers and the reestablishing of those.

1025
01:20:39,380 --> 01:20:48,460
And the next thing I talked about was doing the process and talked about how well we protect the people and the life safety to emerge the operations of things

1026
01:20:48,460 --> 01:20:56,660
and education on the storm and preparedness and one of the things that they did mention was prior to the storm

1027
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:08,340
it recognized that FEMA only would give $4,000 to the average citizen once the storm is through and your houses destroyed.

1028
01:21:08,940 --> 01:21:15,080
So the best thing to do would be to go back in real-sensual insurance with the cost of lumber and everything going up

1029
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,760
Make sure that your insurance is equivalent to what it would take to replace your

1030
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,360
property if it's damaged during the storm.

1031
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:28,760
The next thing to talk about was the first 72 hours after the storm, making sure that we do great damage

1032
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:35,040
assessments to get things rolling. And then the first week is establishing

1033
01:21:36,340 --> 01:21:37,460
cleanup procedures,

1034
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:44,040
permitting things that residents will need to get done for starting to get their lives back in order.

1035
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:50,360
And I thought that was just a good session, things to really put in the forefront of your thinking.

1036
01:21:51,060 --> 01:22:02,780
The second thing, it talked about and I thought we do a good job of that here in the city was talked about better decisions, better places and improving local land use outcomes.

1037
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:13,860
And what it basically talked about was how to have a good comprehensive plan, how that we should also have a land development regulation.

1038
01:22:13,860 --> 01:22:21,580
positions, codes, and making sure that the city has a legal defense grounds for approval

1039
01:22:21,580 --> 01:22:23,340
or denial or conditions.

1040
01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:30,900
And there was something that was based on not do we like it, but is it legal and is

1041
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:32,480
policy wise and appropriate.

1042
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,160
But I thought there was some good information that came out, there was some good discussion,

1043
01:22:36,740 --> 01:22:41,740
had a panel that was there that was presented, and I just thought those things were very

1044
01:22:41,740 --> 01:22:41,920
good.

1045
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:49,340
Thank you for that and the reason I reached out and asked y'all if you had anything to share

1046
01:22:49,340 --> 01:22:55,380
it because I think it's important for the citizens to know that when we go there and

1047
01:22:55,380 --> 01:23:01,500
go to these conferences, we come back with something, you know, they do a lot of education

1048
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:02,180
down there.

1049
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:07,240
So they'll come back and share it, I think, is a positive thing and if you weren't ready

1050
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:11,360
or you didn't go, obviously, then you can't and if you weren't ready, then you can share

1051
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,380
at the next meeting, the meeting after whatever.

1052
01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:16,820
But Cosmin Hayes, I would call on you now.

1053
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,380
If you want to say anything, if you want to say FLC,

1054
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,260
anything personal.

1055
01:23:21,140 --> 01:23:23,160
I'm just going to make a thank you.

1056
01:23:26,020 --> 01:23:28,060
As Councilman Michael said, the conference

1057
01:23:28,060 --> 01:23:29,300
was great as usual.

1058
01:23:29,460 --> 01:23:32,380
Information there was numerous, especially

1059
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:38,600
I saw Ms. Nichols at all the meetings there.

1060
01:23:38,780 --> 01:23:40,120
He was writing and taking notes.

1061
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,660
So he was really, really involved in that.

1062
01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:46,440
I think you really enjoyed it, too, if he didn't,

1063
01:23:46,580 --> 01:23:47,600
it was with my phone.

1064
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:48,920
It was in Marisol.

1065
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,760
But he commented on one thing that I was going to make

1066
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,000
reference to, but he's already made most of the comments.

1067
01:23:55,340 --> 01:24:00,720
And for our preparation plan for disasters, one of the

1068
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:05,340
main things there is that our citizens should know if it is

1069
01:24:05,340 --> 01:24:06,700
the disaster, it comes up.

1070
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,760
There should be only one voice that's

1071
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,920
speaking for the city. All information is coming out. You phone Councilman

1072
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,140
Ecclesi gives you one thing. You phone Councilman Hayes. He gives you another

1073
01:24:18,140 --> 01:24:22,820
thing. You phone Councilman Brandon. He gives you another thing. But there's

1074
01:24:22,820 --> 01:24:29,060
only one voice going out. You, the mayor, our city manager telling us what the

1075
01:24:29,060 --> 01:24:33,840
status is, what's going on, keeping us informed on that. So that's one of the

1076
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,500
main things that I got out of there. I really hadn't thought about when it makes a

1077
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:43,300
really get sense. One of the main things that we discussed down there and everybody

1078
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:50,620
discussing all of the state and I'm not gonna really get into it but was HB3.

1079
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,380
House bill is coming up dealing with the tax referendum. So there's if you

1080
01:24:56,380 --> 01:25:04,960
go online for the Florida league of cities you can look at they did a private, had

1081
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:12,570
group that we did a survey and looked into all this gives a pluses and minuses of it and I would

1082
01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:18,010
suggest that maybe our citizens would go referral legal cities and and and do look at some of the

1083
01:25:18,010 --> 01:25:26,010
research they did concerning our tax structure with May or may not affect us. We know it's going

1084
01:25:26,010 --> 01:25:31,370
to affect us one way or the other but I think that's real good and I won't get any details of that

1085
01:25:31,370 --> 01:25:39,350
we have our town hall but I thoroughly enjoyed it and I enjoyed seeing our fellow city officials down

1086
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:45,710
there too so it was good. Thank you. That's been for us. What do you have for us? I know it on it. Okay.

1087
01:25:46,190 --> 01:25:53,250
May I throw a temp cap? Nothing. Okay. I would just add again kind of rounded out the

1088
01:25:54,710 --> 01:26:05,370
There were a lot of resources available, and is it the next dinner we're going to?

1089
01:26:05,550 --> 01:26:06,270
Steve Bancourt.

1090
01:26:06,750 --> 01:26:08,870
You all remember Steve Bancourt from the conference?

1091
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:12,470
He's going to be a guest speaker and some did not go to.

1092
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:18,010
And his company is wanting to do the survey, but asking people what they thought about the

1093
01:26:18,010 --> 01:26:26,070
amendment three and everything. But anybody who doesn't have just us, anybody who wants

1094
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:34,490
to look at the Florida League of Cities and a tool kit, they talk about the impact it

1095
01:26:34,490 --> 01:26:40,930
could have on cities, they talk about educational resources they have, so it's a good thing

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to do. We'll be bringing those kind of things up when we have our own town hall meetings.

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And with that, I don't really have anything else to say, so anybody from the public like

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to come up and address the City Council,

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seeing none, we thank you all for coming, and

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this meeting is adjourned.