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are allowed to be here tonight and do
the business of the town.

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Give us clarity in our minds as we
proceed through the meeting in your

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name. Amen.
>> Let us stand for the pledge of

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allegiance.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for it stands one nation under
God indivisible

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and justice for all.

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» Has council had an opportunity to review
the minutes of the regular March 9th

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meeting? Yes.
>> Are there any additions to the agenda or

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edits to the minutes

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» Uh if we could just add to a close
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a a um discussion of um
uh economic opportunity.

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» Okay.
All righty.

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So, I will entertain a motion to accept.
>> I move to accept with the addition.

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» With the addition. Thank you, Vice
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» All in favor?
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I just voted.
>> Old habits are hard break.

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» The motion carries.
Okay. So just a [clears throat]

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just a reminder that there is a five
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we have any public comments? Anyone from
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» I'm getting a nodding head. So
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Does council have any comments,
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sheets?

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No. Okay. Town manager report.
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department head evaluations today. Uh
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crying, I think. So,
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» right? Um let's see. Uh
like what taxes we're we're moving

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uh let's see. Water projects are moving
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Nope. Uh the um deadline for the
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legislation is 11:59 today. I haven't
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uh and then of course if it uh if it
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that 59 today, I believe. Um,
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» Okay. Mayor's report. I don't really
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town attorney report.
>> I have nothing new to report at this

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time, but happy to answer any questions
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I can't.
>> Okay, let's move on to committee

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reports. Finance Committee, Councilman
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personnel committee. Vice Mayor Stenson,
>> we're advertising some positions. So, I

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hope we get lots of applicants. Okay.
>> I will add to that that uh we we do

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welcome our newest uh police officer to
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» I wasn't going to say
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a significant experience. Officer Lee
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[laughter]
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mistake and he came right on back.
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have him back.
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» Well, happy day we are. Welcome back.
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» Officer Dowy. Okay. Community
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I really don't have anything. Do you or
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at all?
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homecoming.
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Committee. Councilman Stith. Councilman
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» Yeah.
The Can you give me a follow up on what

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you did to the road on Gateway Avenue
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more about it when I gave a report that
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» Gatewood.
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» Right. But uh that's the one about the
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there.
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the they they live at the end of a very
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with the with the property owner is they
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trash can um, uh, out at the at the end
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in the in front of the neighbor's house.
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have, you know, a a driveway that
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neighbor's house. So, really, it's a
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there. Uh they can either work with the
work with the neighbor and and put it

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out there and leave it out there or um
or they can uh bring it out uh uh weekly

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or twice a week.
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neighbor's house, the that would be the
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I'd have to go out there. I mean, I I I
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uh then yes, but I'll check with the
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with the individual you were talking
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a long driveway and don't want to
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every every week. But that's a that's a
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No, my preference was that while they
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got to roll her trash can 100 yards to
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preference.
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preference, but but basically that's a
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work with the neighbor and um ask them
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a corral out in front.
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» Not state, but town road or something.
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» right?
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» I was only talking about the first house
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TJ had put rock down there for the
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» He fixed the road,
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» unless we uh we looked at the wrong one,
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like a very long driveway.
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one at the end of it,
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» It's supposed to have been where you
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I, you know, I said, "Well, hey, it is
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I'm talking about the people on the
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the 100 yard trash can pull from there
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» to the hard service.
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the road up. So my question was, was
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Uh if it's put out where it uh where it
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on private property to pick up trash.

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» Is it
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you'd like for it or
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needed to pick it up, right?
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place, then yes.
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their trash out to the end of the
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» If they want the trash picked up.
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Uh if they have to, you know, work with
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of their house, they can put a corral
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cans there.
>> Clarify something for me.

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» I know. I'm confused, too.
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right at the green house.
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» This is the road they keep straight
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» but it's a private road. That's not
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Is that is that accurate from the hard
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» Is that a town
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private property?
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driveway that the individuals live on or
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» comes off the hard pavement and goes
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» and Al Simpson's brother used to live on
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» You go on back down in there and there's
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at the end if I remember right or a
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» So is the problem that they can't
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hard surface road.
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you know whether or not if it's a
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blacktop
whether they should be going down in

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there or if it's okay to send it down in
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live these people live 100 yards off
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» or from the hard pavement?
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begins after the hardwood service.
>> But here the clip to it. If the town

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pull the road and put a rock in it
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do that?
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» So, but I'm I'm still confused now. So,
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think, so I can take a better look at
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talking about this stretch
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» go straight down Gatewood
>> it's going to be that gravel road or

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driveway or whatever it is
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» if it's a driveway So, there's a
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private road.
>> Yeah. I didn't think it was a driveway.

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» I've been down in this house.
>> Yeah. I just don't know if it's a town.

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» Yeah, that's
>> if it's a town street that we should be

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sending our trucks down anyway.

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» But it's okay to send.
>> Let me uh let me talk to Matt again.

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» Well, it's obvious there They fix the
road, then they're taking the truck down

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there. So, it's a matter of if this is
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» Sure. Yeah. Houses are off.
>> But I can see that it would be hard if

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they truck went all the way down there.
>> They'd be turning around on private

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property on the right hand if you
dragging a trash can to the hard

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service.
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» Well, that's probably why because they
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down there on a private lane anyway.
>> But if they are, then I don't could be

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picked up.

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» Well, that's what I

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» Okay. Well, we'll uh we'll we'll get
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» I'm trying to find out. So, okay. Where
am I?

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» Oh, economic development committee,
guys.

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» Uh the county EDC meets This week, next
week. Next week.

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And
that is Yeah, that's that's that.

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» Okay. Planning Commission.
>> Oh. Um, planning commission will meet

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the first
Wednesday or Thursday in May.

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» They'll meet the first week in May.
>> Yes. Somewhere. Yes. I'm not quite sure

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which. Water committee. Councilman
Davis. Uh you should have in your packet

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where Hurt and Profit has started
working on the $4 million project for

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the delivery system and uh it breaks
down pretty good what the um what the

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timeline I'm sorry
>> it's okay

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» you guys should all have in your packet
uh the information that hurt and prov uh

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profit provided to Phil uh gives you a
timeline gives you a breakdown of what

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the steps are um you know it's not a
quick project it's something that you

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know we probably won't may be breaking
ground by year end of this year. By the

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time it goes through all of the
different processes that are involved,

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the planning, um, you'll see a 30% plan,
you'll see a 60% plan, you'll see where

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it's put out, uh, eventually to bid. So,
it it's a it's a long drawn out process.

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Um, I guess that's relative, you know,
for something like this.

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» So, they'll be working on it and
hopefully we'll start seeing some stuff

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moving next year, you know, hopefully
sooner. But uh it is moving forward. So

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that's good news for us.
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» And on the on the other side of that,
the um the new water treatment plant uh

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the engineers did send us the 60% uh
plans. So that is uh moving forward.

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» Okay.
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» we are moving forward to new business.
11A legislator invite. Uh each year uh

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council invites uh our state legislator
tours uh to uh to uh brief us. Uh and

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then there's we we usually uh precede
that with a uh with a dinner with the uh

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the manager, the mayor and one member of
council [snorts]

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uh for more um in-depth conversation
with the with the legislators. Um uh so

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basically question is um May 11th good
for everyone for that and if so is there

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one member of council who wants to
represent council at the dinner.

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[snorts]
>> This is probably a good time to say I

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will not be in town for next month's
meeting. Okay

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» or this situation. So
>> do you want us to move it to June?

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» Uh it's not necessarily I was there last
time. Somebody else can go and and have

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the conversations this time. And
>> I'll be

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in town.
>> I'll be in Mexico.

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» You want to go? [snorts]
>> It's going to be somewhere in Cruz.

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» Just somewhere in town or you know one
year we uh we did just in my office and

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brought in the yogurts
>> and the other one we ate at Bravos the

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last time I think.
>> So for the for dinner.

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» Yeah.

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» Oh, okay. Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, it
would just be the uh the two

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legislators, the mayor, me, and one
member of council, which would be you.

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» I mean, if you want I'll offer it if you
like it.

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» Okay. We we can certainly look at that.
>> That sounds wonderful.

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» We'll let uh council member Estus be the
um representative this year.

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» What do you
>> May 11.

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» May 11.
>> Now, where we still have to do the uh do

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the invite and uh they may not be
available May 11th um especially if they

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don't have a budget right now. Um,
but we'll we'll plan for that. Awesome.

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Thank you.
>> Okay.

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All righty. Then we'll move on to 11B,
which is which is head shot.

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» Yep. So, um, we don't have professional
head shot for the uh for the website for

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for us or uh for whatever other uses for
staff as well. Uh, thought about

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bringing in there's a photographer that
we've worked with in the past for uh um

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photos of the town and such, a local
photographer. Um, I was going to say,

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um, uh, schedule for May 11th, but, if
at least two of you are gone, we'll, uh,

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we'll look at the, uh, uh, ahead of the
June meeting. If, uh, you will all be

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here for the June meeting.
>> At least one of the two of us that'll be

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gone doesn't care one way or the other.
>> We'll just use a head shot from

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somewhere else.
>> So, anyone have any uh, any objection to

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that?
>> Perfect.

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» Okay. 11 Council compensation. I want to
say one thing in the packet. It kind of

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refers to Blackstone and their request.
That had nothing to do with why I asked

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for it. Um I asked to revisit it because
a few members of council are interested

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and I felt it was important that we
bring it up.

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» Okay. So, um and as you know, Blackstone
has been uh been um uh discussing

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council compensation as most localities
do uh at at this time each year. Um

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[snorts]
>> I'm sorry.

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» Just been discussing it. It's been in
the news.

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» Right. Right. So it's a it's at the
forefront, which you know could uh um

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anyway uh so um mayor requested that
this be put on our agenda. Just a little

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bit of a of compensation history. Uh the
mayor receives $3,800 stipen per year

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paid every two weeks with staff payroll.
After taxes, that comes about to $134

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every two weeks. Um uh council
effectively receives no pay. uh back

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before Ann and I started um right before
Ann and I started council was paid $50

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per meeting um and then the majority
outgoing council removed that pay um but

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the most if not all were donating it
back to the uh to the town. Um for the

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last several years council had the
option of a $50 per month cell phone

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internet reimbursement.
>> Uh very few ever took advantage of it

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and no one had in the last two or three
years. So it was move removed from this

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fiscal year's budget.
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per a vote several years ago, council is
paid a dollar per year and that has

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» has to do with the public service loan
forgiveness, things like that. Um

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nothing that applies I think to anyone
here. Um,

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» so I have a question.
>> Just I have Well, that's

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um so if anybody was interested on
council but not everyone was interested,

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could the people that are interested
submit for it or I don't know how that

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works.
>> So

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» I'm asking that question because I asked
that question.

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» Sure. So, uh, so, um,
>> to help get

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» there. I I think that there's a
difference between compensation and

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reimbursement for for cell phone. So,
reimbursement for cell phone vote. Um,

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council could vote in uh either the next
fiscal year and we don't have to worry

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about finding the money now or you can
vote it in uh now and we'd uh we'd have

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to just just find the uh find the budget
for it.

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» Um,
the

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um uh uh the um compensation any kind of
pay you could only vote in for the next

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council. Uh you cannot uh uh increase
your own uh your own pay but you can

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increase reimbursement for from nothing
to something for for cell phones.

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» Okay. So
because you guys were like so pay is one

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thing and reimbursement for your cell
phone bill is another.

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So, if you were going to do pay, it
would have to be voted in for the next

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council.
>> Correct. The next council.

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» But if you're going to want a
reimbursement for your cell phone bill,

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then you just submit.
>> Well, you uh council would have to

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approve that. That's a it's a minor
item, but uh but it's an item that has

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» it would have to be put in the budget,
right?

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» Correct.
>> It's not in the budget right now.

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» Right. And and if uh if council wants to
wait until the uh the next fiscal year,

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which begins in July, I can certainly
put that in the in the budget. I think

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comes out to 4,800 a year. We do that.
>> I think 25 grand a year is a fair price

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for my time. [laughter]

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[laughter]
>> I mean,

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» so
can I speak to this?

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» Sure.
So, we I was here for these previous

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discussions and it's been brought up
occasionally and I know that it's hard

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and I know that everybody, you know, I
make I make uh comments all the time

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outside of here that, you know, if
people have problems, complaints,

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concerns that all they have to do is get
off their couch on the first Monday or

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second Monday of every month and come in
here and join us because we have to do

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that. I
>> um I have stood on and I will go with

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counselor's council's pleasure on this.
I have stood on the fact that I don't

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get paid to be here. So I don't have to

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always I don't owe you a listening ear.
That's what I'm here for and I'll try my

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best. But we don't get paid to do this.
We don't get paid for the 10 o'clock at

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night phone calls. It just comes with
the job. And I've always enjoyed being

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able to say, you know what, my loyalty
is not for sale, I do what I do, and

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when I'm tired of doing it, I'll get
off. And if anybody else doesn't like

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it, they they have elections, you know,
every other year.

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» You're welcome to come grab a seat and
put in your free time. Um because it's a

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civic duty. Now, times have changed and
it is pretty difficult to sit here and

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watch the county guys get paid what they
get paid and the Blackstone folks get

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paid what they get paid and and you know
while it is nice to be able to say,

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"Hey, look, we're the only body in the
county that doesn't take a dollar of

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taxpayers money. Um, but I also know
that I couldn't be a member of the board

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of supervisors. You almost have to be
retired or own your own business to to

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be able to volunteer for that position."
Mhm.

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» Um and I don't know how Blackstone is
the inner workings, you know, for their

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group, but um you know, and again, I
will whatever the group here decides is

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fine. I'm not trying to guilt trip
anybody or make a decision. You guys

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know what your time's worth. Um that's
just kind of where we've always been

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with it. Of course, I also didn't
realize that the mayor was getting a

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check the whole time that we was going
hungry.

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» What do you mean you didn't realize?
>> You know, I I had to I had to find that

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out, you know, on a separate thing. But
again, [laughter]

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» you know,
>> I appreciate it.

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» It's not an easy It's not an easy job
being here.

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» Um, it does take time outside of, you
know, when you're trying to work and it

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takes time when you're at home and it
takes coming up here, you know, for at

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least once, if not two times a month.
So, I'm not going to argue or fight with

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anybody that thinks that it's time. Um,
I just wanted to put that out there that

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I've always enjoyed being able to say I
do what I do for the town and for the

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people of this town and I don't take a
dollar for it. So, you guys, whatever

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you all think.
>> Okay. I'm um Well, I don't even know

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what I'm asking for a motion for.
>> Well, uh, [laughter] it does what what

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is the pleasure of council? Um, uh, is
is there a desire? Because the other

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side of that is you can also donate back
to town or not not accept it. Um or if

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we go back to a uh a cell phone
reimbursement. Um

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» I never did that first.
>> Right. So take the reimbursement or

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don't take the reimbursement. I guess
it's [clears throat] what is what is

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council's spiel on all this?
>> So

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the reimbursement doesn't have to be
every month. It can be some months or it

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can be where it's every month or I'm not
asking for myself. I'm just asking.

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» So the um uh the last time it was
implemented it was uh you could um uh uh

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apply for monthly reimbursement for for
your cell phone bill up to $50.

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» So if we if we would approve that
and the people that don't want to

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participate just don't participate.
Correct. And the people that do

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» you'd have to come to the office and
submit your cell phone bill.

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» Okay.
>> Besides phone,

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» um we can call it internet. Um I think
last time it was cell phone andor

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internet
>> as far as water or sewage or any of

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that. Now
>> that's not

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» that's legal or whatever. No, that's not
[laughter]

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the option for that is [clears throat]
um like Sean said, you get phone calls

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at 10:00
>> um at night and you know you you use

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your personal uh phone. So, I mean, if
you wanted to do your if you have a

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landline and and want to get reimbured
for your landline, then that's a that's

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another option.
>> And I want to be clear, I'm not trying

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to guilt trip you all. If you all want
to do that, that's fine. I mean, that's

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fine. I'm just telling you what the
history has been

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» because if we do if we do the
reimbursement we can vote on it now but

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if we do the other then it's not going
to apply to this council it'll apply to

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the next council whether you're on it or
not but right

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» I think if we're going to discuss pay
because of what's in the recent news

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let's discuss pay
>> and answer that question first because

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$50 a month for a cell phone bill is not
pay you know what I'm saying

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» and what's this up you You guys have
obviously seen it, you know, in the in

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the newspaper discussion.
>> No, in all fairness, I've been asked

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this since January off and on so long
before Blackstone.

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» Someone there's someone among us that
[clears throat] feel like and it's okay.

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I don't want to I'll take the check if
everybody's going to take it, but

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[laughter]
we decided that that's not what we were

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going to do.
>> Yeah. So,

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» so I guess
>> y'all figured out. Can we

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» not interested in pay, but if somebody
wanted to take the reimbursement, that's

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fine.

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» Yeah.
>> Other thoughts?

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» I don't have an opinion. I don't I'm not
asking for the pay every single month.

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» So, how do we how do we first we do the
compensation and then we do the

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reimbursement?
>> That is that is certainly one one way of

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going about it. What well, what is
everyone what what are everyone's

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thoughts? Is there any appetite for any
of this or um uh and and how much um I

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guess is going to be so and that will
help determine if it's reimbursement

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based or if it's compensation.
Well, I feel the same way you know if

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it's reimbur because we are given an
iPad that needs to have internet

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connection to
you know to access the documents. So

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that's a requirement. So if it wants to
if we want to have a reimbursement ever

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how you want to call it for um internet
use or cell phone I'm fine with that

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either or it's not going to break or
make me but um if it if all of us I'm

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fine with it. I would say yes. I would
agree to it.

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» Okay. Anyone else?
>> We should make at least as much as

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» if you don't stop saying that.
>> I'm with you.

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One person wants to do it.
>> Yeah.

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» I'm not going to take it myself. Anybody
one person wants to do it.

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» Okay.
>> So, it sounds like a reimbursement.

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» Yeah.
>> Um

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» that's where I said we needed to

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» I'm personally I would be concerned
about compensation as far as my tax

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liability.
>> Yeah. I was talking about reimbursement

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when I spoke. Yeah. compensation, you
know, is and that doesn't

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» just because you old and old social
security.

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» No, I didn't.
>> I still got to work.

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» It's because I'm old and I save my
money.

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» Okay. Um, I'm in for reimbursement
>> and and I don't want to put anyone on

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the spot. Um, but
>> so what we can do now is just uh uh

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preliminarily agree to a reimbursement.
Um, uh, and then if anyone

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wants to talk one-on-one with me about
compensation and I can uh bring it um uh

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uh
>> that sounds like

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» confidentially to uh to to council. So
it's uh we protect individuals privacy.

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» Okay.
>> Um that sounds good.

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» And so in terms of the reimbursement,
are we thinking

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» with the next next fiscal year or do we
want to start that with the the end of

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this fiscal year?
>> Fiscal year.

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» Fiscal year. Okay, perfect. I will I'll
include that in the in the budget.

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expensive internet. That's like $45$500
a month.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. [laughter]

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We're going to put a cap on how much you
get.

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» Okay. So, so we have that all
>> that's uh that's all done.

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» Okay. So, we have that all settled. So,
let's move

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» I don't think there needs to if it's
just added into the into the budget for

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for next year. It'll just be just be
part of that

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» $50 or something like that,
>> right? $50 for everyone. That's what it

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was last time. Councilman Stiff, he said
it's $50.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah. Robin, I mean, Councilwoman

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» Sap is over four. They How long ago was
that that it was 50

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» a couple of years ago?
>> Well, it was just just last year, but uh

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again, no one no one's actually taking
advantage of it.

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» Nobody ever remembered to bring the
bills in. So,

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» that's really true.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay. Well, what do we
Okay. Um, so we'll uh we'll I'll if

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everyone's good with the 50, unless we
want to do more, let me know. Okay.

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We'll we'll include that in the um in
the budget for for next year.

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» Okay. Okay. Happy joyful day. Unfinished
business 12A bound. Oh, it's happening.

416
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,240
I
>> think you skipped 11 D

417
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:33,840
» D and E.
>> Did I?

418
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:39,360
Well,
it's on the next page.

419
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:43,279
» Okay. Um 11D, uh the NA Youth Rec
Association Parks.

420
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:47,039
» I thought this would uh would would get
Sean's Sean's attention here.

421
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:51,120
» Oh, I've spent several hours in
conversation about this topic in the

422
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:55,600
last. So, basically for uh for everyone
there and everyone online, um staff

423
00:30:53,360 --> 00:31:00,880
received the uh received a message from
the uh from the NY chair. Just uh just

424
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:07,039
uh throwing it out there that they might
be um uh uh

425
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:11,840
no longer taking advantage of the lease
for the uh for the ball fields. Um a

426
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,440
portion of the Veterans Memorial Park,
as you know, is owned by the town of

427
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Crew. A second portion is leased by the
town from the railroad. And a third

428
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:25,440
portion with the ball fields is leased
by the NY from the railroad. Uh since

429
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:30,640
the merger of the CB y and y into the
NY, crew has uh

430
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:36,159
» seen significantly less use of the ball
fields despite pre merger agreements for

431
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:41,279
equal use. Uh we've talked about this um
a lot last year I believe. Um

432
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:46,559
» so can I
>> Yes, go ahead. So to bring history into

433
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:52,320
perspective, they've been playing
baseball on that ball field over there

434
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:58,720
for 74 years. They were playing baseball
on that ball field and as early as 1951

435
00:31:56,399 --> 00:32:04,559
before there was a Dixie youth baseball
before there was those fields were

436
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:12,559
originally the recreational fields for
the railroad hotel that sat right where

437
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:15,600
the railroad museum is now. Norfick and
Western, they would bring the guys in,

438
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:21,120
they would break there, and they had
baseball teams that traveled and played

439
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:25,840
for entertainment for the guys in all
the different places. So that's, you

440
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:34,080
know, if you ever noticed, the seats on
the boy side are actually bent rail. Um,

441
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:38,000
they all our our two generations ago, I
think probably Pacan was probably one of

442
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,640
the last that passed away, they
literally the railroad guys bent rail.

443
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,720
It's rail that's turned upside down. So,
the flat part is what goes on the

444
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:50,960
ground. Huge amount of history there.
Um,

445
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:56,720
long before I was I was over there for
just over 20 years. Um, lots of friends

446
00:32:53,919 --> 00:33:00,480
that put in their heart and soul and
spent hundreds of hundreds of hundreds

447
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:04,399
if not thousands of hours working on
that piece of dirt over there to keep it

448
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:09,200
going. It eventually got to the point
where they were down to eight of us and

449
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,399
all the grass still had to be cut. All
the paintings still had to be done. All

450
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:15,519
the concessions still had to be worked.
All the ball fields still had to be

451
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,840
done. Somebody had to commission them.
Somebody had to coach them. And somebody

452
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:26,640
had to umpire. And so we started
discussions with NYRA several years ago

453
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:31,600
about and add to that our numbers were
falling. So NYRA opened their season at

454
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,840
their open day today and they were
making a lot of noise about the fact

455
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:41,760
that they had 195 kids playing ball in
Blackstone this year. Our last year over

456
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:46,880
there, we had 210 playing just softball.
That's without the baseball and the

457
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:52,559
T-ball and anything else. So, we they've
probably at least keeping it alive for

458
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:56,720
now. Um,
but they want their cake and eat it too.

459
00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:01,760
When we wrote those bylaws, I wrote
those bylaws, by the way. I did. Um, it

460
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,960
was months of sitting at a bargaining
table with the members of by going

461
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:10,720
through every line of our bylaws and
their bylaws and what was going to work

462
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:18,399
and what we could agree to. And one of
the things that both sides agreed to was

463
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:22,000
a 50/50 split, half the practices, half
the games [snorts]

464
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,919
in Blackstone and in Crew. So that we
still had those Friday night lights and

465
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:31,119
Saturday night lights here in town
bringing people into the town. Um, you

466
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:34,800
know, any of us that grew up here, those
lights have been on on Friday night with

467
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:42,000
baseball going on for as long as anybody
probably alive can remember.

468
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:45,599
» Um, and so, you know, it it it was for a
couple of us. You also, if you're not

469
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:52,399
from here, you don't understand the
Blackstone crew mentality, and that's a

470
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,679
big deal historically. Um, we we have
thankfully moved by a lot of that. They

471
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,560
are doing they are putting on a a good
program in Blackstone. Don't get me

472
00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:04,400
wrong, my grandkids are playing. Been
down there two nights a week, but it was

473
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:12,000
a promise made and that promise is not
being stuck with. And so, and I get it.

474
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:16,480
If what they were told is they they had
18 positions on their board,

475
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,800
they should have strove to have nine and
nine.

476
00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:22,480
» But if people from this end of the
county aren't involved,

477
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:26,560
then the people from Blackstone don't
fill the spots. And when the people from

478
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:32,000
Blackstone fill the spots, where would
you rather oversee a baseball game,

479
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:35,119
» three blocks from your house or 10 miles
away in crew?

480
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:39,520
» Well, to uh to I'm sorry, I don't mean
to interrupt, but to that point, what I

481
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:45,119
would uh what I would say is when you're
elected either by, you know, of an

482
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:52,079
organization or accounts or whatever um
to a leadership position, your

483
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:57,119
um uh uh responsibility isn't just for
your needs anymore. It's for the

484
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:02,960
organization and the constituency as a
whole. And when there is inequitable and

485
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:09,440
disproport in inequity and
disproportionate uh uh impact to you

486
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:13,599
know a whole half of the county. Those
are things that leaders need to uh

487
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:18,720
» hold on a second. I get my back. I'll
keep talking without

488
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:24,640
um and and you are correct
philosophically

489
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:29,680
» and and from a highlevel
oversight mentality.

490
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,839
But when you can't find somebody to cut
grass, when you can't find somebody to

491
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,400
drag ball fields, when you can't find
people to sell a hot dog to a kid, um

492
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:43,920
you do what you if you love the program
and you love what it does, you do what

493
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:46,320
you have to do to keep it alive. Now
again, people in the west end of the

494
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:49,040
[clears throat] county were told you
have to get involved. You have to be

495
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:52,800
part of this board. You have to be
willing to put in the work. It's a

496
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:57,599
working board. You got to be over there
doing it. And unfortunately, there

497
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,960
aren't as many from the west end of the
county that have made their feelings

498
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:05,440
known, that have gotten involved in the
board. And so, again, if I'm the

499
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,040
baseball commissioner and I have to be
at every single ball game, I'm going to

500
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:13,440
have that ball game as close as I can at
home most of the time. There's lots of

501
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,359
ancillary things that go along the
availability of umpires, the the

502
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:21,520
availability of people to work the
concession stand. There's all kinds of

503
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:27,520
things go along with it. I have been
approached by multiple people inquiring

504
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:32,720
as to what it would take to separate the
leagues again and bring baseball and

505
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:35,920
softball back to crew because they are
missing out on some of the kids from the

506
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:39,440
far west end of the county that can't
get back and forth to Blackstone for

507
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:45,200
practices and games.
My answer to that is find bodies.

508
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:49,440
There's a way out right now. They're the
best game in town. They're providing the

509
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,760
service for the kids that the kids
deserve to have. So, you know, I'm not

510
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,640
willing to jump up and down and try to,
you know, jerk the rug out from

511
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:05,160
underneath them. Marshion them do a good
job. Um, but it is not the same here. My

512
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,160
problem with this proposal,

513
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:12,320
let me be clear. Norfick and Southern
owns that 6.75 acres. They've always

514
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,760
owned it. They've never given it to
anyone else. It is on a lease to the

515
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,240
what was the Krue Barkville Rec
Association, then the Krueville Youth

516
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:27,200
Rec Association and every other
iteration of it as boards changed. We

517
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:34,560
used to lease it for a dollar a year.
Now I think it's up to about 350 or 500

518
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:37,920
a year. They're still paying that. Um
they have to carry insurance on

519
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:42,000
everything that goes on over there both
for the kids playing ball and every

520
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:47,680
person who steps on the ground. So the
liability insurance is out there. Um

521
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:51,119
crew would have to um think about
whether or not and I actually asked a

522
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,599
former town manager if he was willing to
put it underneath the umbrella of the

523
00:38:53,359 --> 00:39:00,560
town of crew and he quickly told me no.
He wasn't interested. Um

524
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,800
so I think it's something that bears
discussion.

525
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:09,280
I think that we still have a bigger
picture issue. I do I've had a couple

526
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:14,400
people approach me and say if the town
of crew were to take it, could I lease

527
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,960
it and from the town of crew or be
involved with crew and do travel ball

528
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:21,680
tournaments over there, which would
bring kids we don't know into town and

529
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,359
the guy who's talking to me knows
exactly what he's doing and could make

530
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,520
it happen. He's running four age groups
of a travel ball team. So, there's lots

531
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:35,839
of options. My one hang-up
is the line in that that says they get

532
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:40,720
first dibs.
I think if if the lease were to come

533
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:45,040
back to the town of crew like it was for
a few years and town of crew was

534
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:48,079
managing it. I mean our guys are already
cutting part of the grass. We're

535
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:54,160
maintaining the ditch lines. We're
keeping things looking neat. Um

536
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,280
there there's some that ele that loss of
element of control would be a problem

537
00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:00,960
for me.
I I would think that, you know, not that

538
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:05,440
Tiffany and him don't have enough to do,
but a communication with the head of the

539
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,000
NYRA would be as simple as going, "Hey,
are you guys having anything this

540
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,119
weekend up here?" Because if you're not,
we're going to find somebody else who

541
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,640
will. Don't take it if we're not going
to do anything with it. It's, you know,

542
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:22,240
it's that simple. But, um, you know, it
it took a lot to put these wreck leagues

543
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:27,920
together. It's a lot of history between
Blackstone and crew that had to be

544
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:33,119
overcome to to try to save it. It's a
dying breed and um you know the kids are

545
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:37,119
having a good time in Blackstone and
things are going the way that I think

546
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:42,240
that they they should go having worked
in a league before. But it is uh

547
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,000
disappointing to see that field over
there empty on Friday nights and

548
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Saturday nights. So, so let me ask you
uh this Sean um uh to

549
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:59,760
separate I guess divorce CBR from the NY
again um takes you know takes some

550
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:03,839
doing. How much
>> which which part when you say separation

551
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:07,200
you have two different things. One, you
have a body of a local wreck association

552
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:12,160
that's comprised of people from both
ends of the county. And two, you have

553
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:17,760
the sanctions that they play under,
Dixie boys baseball and Dixie girls

554
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:22,800
softball. And those franchises govern
where these kids play under that Dixie

555
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:25,680
umbrella. So the simple answer is if you
don't care about Dixie, you simply say,

556
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,839
you know what, we're going to start
baseball and softball back up here. Not

557
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,040
sanctioned, no allstars. Just come and
have a good time. We can talk to Little

558
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:38,000
League. You can talk to Babe Ruth. You
can talk to all these different

559
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:42,720
organizations. Dixie would be a trick
because as of the merger, they own the

560
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,720
boundary lines and it's the entire
county of Nawway. So, we would have to

561
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,640
have a movement within Dixie. And there
are

562
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:55,440
very wellrespected members of the Dixie
organization that would back a a

563
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:59,760
res-plit to bring it back out. But it
still comes down to bodies and the town

564
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,280
of crew can own it. We can cut the grass
for them. We can drag drag the bases for

565
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,359
them. We can do all of that stuff. But
if you don't have mas and daddies that

566
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,720
are going to give of themselves to put
it on for these kids, then leave it

567
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,640
alone and let them stay in Blackstone
because at least they're getting to

568
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,440
play.
>> So what about the what about Gohead?

569
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,640
» And it's a huge amount of work. You guys
have no idea how much work. It's seven

570
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,640
days a week.
>> So what about travel ball here?

571
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,560
» Um well I mean we've got teams that play
travel ball. Would that be the same

572
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,160
amount of work?
>> My granddaughter is having practice in

573
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:34,319
crew right now. Mhm.
>> And when that practice with that coach

574
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,119
is over with, his travel ball team then
comes in and they practice for another

575
00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:39,520
hour and a half with the travel ball
team.

576
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:45,440
» Um there are two other travel ball
groups, they rent, they pay rent to NY

577
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,560
for the uh the ability to get on the
field.

578
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,599
» There'd be no difference in that. And if
it was being run through the town hall

579
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,480
with people that wanted to set a
schedule, this is what we want to do.

580
00:42:54,079 --> 00:43:01,599
Um, you know, again, my problem with it
is,

581
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:06,480
and this is tainted, at the Blackstone
fields, town of Blackstone employees cut

582
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,160
it. Town of Blackstone employees drag
it. Town of Blackstone employees fix

583
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:16,079
everything that's broke. Town of
Blackstone employees bring any tools and

584
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:21,520
anything that they doesn't do anything
at those fields except run the games and

585
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:27,599
work the concession stand.
So what they've told Phil previously was

586
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,280
if town and crew would take them over
and do all of that in crew, she'd bring

587
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:35,440
games back to crew. Well, that's being
held hostage and we're not going to do

588
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:43,280
that. Um my my first responsibility is
here even if my history is with them. So

589
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:48,160
I think that that one piece of telling
us that they get first dibs, it would

590
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:52,240
have to be controlled very tightly to
make sure that if they said we need the

591
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,680
fields this weekend, they use the fields
that weekend because there's other

592
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,920
people that would come to you and go,
you know what, I'm going to bring in a

593
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:03,119
10 team roundroin tournament on Saturday
and Sunday and I'm going to sell all the

594
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:08,480
food and I'm going to sell all the
drinks. we're going to charge the teams

595
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:13,119
$400 a team to come in and play and you
know this is how much we'll pay you in

596
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:18,240
rent to get the fields that exists and
it's been done over there before. So I I

597
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,680
I don't Phil and I have talked about
this what five years ago, four years ago

598
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:28,319
when it came up the first time, three
years ago. I I I I have

599
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:33,440
there's a lot more that I could say that
I won't say sitting in this room. I just

600
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,720
want us to be sure that if we decide to
try to take advantage of that, there is

601
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,599
no condition on who gets to use the
fields. It's our le and I don't even

602
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,520
know the Norfick and Western whether
they'll give us back Norfick and

603
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Southern whether they'll give us back
the leases or not. They've been offered

604
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:51,520
a lot of money for that grass before.
>> Well, and and they say uh they say in

605
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:56,079
the or the NY says in the in the email
that they're thinking about getting rid

606
00:44:52,800 --> 00:45:00,240
of um returning the fields to the
railroad, which I guess means giving up

607
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,839
their lease. um they're going to pay the
lease for one additional year and look

608
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:08,400
at options. So either they're going to
give up the lease or they're not um and

609
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:12,319
if they give up the lease then there
will be you know other

610
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,520
» so one of the things that I would
recommend that you do while this is

611
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,599
being considered
>> is reach back out. God, those Norfick

612
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:24,160
and Southern reps are probably long gone
by now that we used to deal with. Um,

613
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,760
but there was um there were a couple of
guys that we talked with and you could

614
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:32,000
reach back out and see what their
pleasure is ahead of time saying that

615
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:35,040
we've been give them the email. We it's
been reached out to us, but we want to

616
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:40,160
know what their pleasure is because they
might very well just say, you know,

617
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:45,040
they'll never give land away, but you
know, somebody offers a developer

618
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:51,200
something, who knows? So, I would I
would start my process early and reach

619
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:54,800
out to Norphick, to the railroad. I
probably keep using their name wrong. I

620
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,560
think Norfick and Southern now, right?
Um,

621
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,280
I'd probably make contacts with their
real estate department and say, "Hey,

622
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,839
you've got these leases. They're with
NYRA. Traditionally, they've been with

623
00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:11,520
CBRA. They've reached out to us about
giving them up. We'd like to talk to you

624
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:16,240
about opportunity."
>> So, a couple things. one, the railroad

625
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:19,359
has gotten much much
more difficult to work with since I

626
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:25,040
since I moved to Georgia.
>> Um, second, from what I recall, and this

627
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:30,640
has been several years and may remember,
the last time someone asked the question

628
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:37,280
about
purchase

629
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:43,359
of the property, they put it for sale.
Um, which then resulted in in I guess we

630
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:53,560
renamed the the the park, the Veterans
Memorial Park, things like that. Um,

631
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:53,560
» so do do we want to necessarily

632
00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:02,640
ask the question if it gives us an
answer that we don't want? Well, our

633
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:06,599
listening to Sean has the expertise
here, but if

634
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:16,240
the current lease holders are thinking
about they're going to pay another year,

635
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:24,000
I think the question to the railroad
person would be, would they

636
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:26,560
lease it to us, not necessarily that we
buy it? Is that what you're saying,

637
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Sean?
I think that the most important thing

638
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:35,040
that you can make known to Norfick and
Southern is that you intend for the

639
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,880
fields to continue to be used with for
their intended purpose. They are not

640
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:42,240
going to talk to you about buying it as
long as there are kids putting on

641
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:47,760
uniforms and playing in those fields.
That's why NYRA

642
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:51,520
making this overture and potentially
eventually telling them we're not going

643
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:54,319
to run baseball up there anymore. Then
you may find yourself back in a

644
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,040
situation where they're like, "Well, you
know what? they just want to sell it,

645
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:01,760
but they're not going to take it out
from underneath the kids.

646
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:06,000
» We we discussed that multiple times at
length with reps from Norphick, you

647
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:11,520
know, the first time this all happened.
And they were adamant that they did not

648
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:15,440
want Channel 12 on your side,
>> sitting there with 263 kids in uniform

649
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:19,520
saying, "Please don't take our ball
fields." Um,

650
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:23,359
we actually laughed about that that he
said that would not be fun for them. But

651
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:27,200
yeah, I mean, I think you got to let it
be known to Norfick and Southern that if

652
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:33,440
you were if we were interested in this
that the intended use would remain youth

653
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,839
sports [snorts] fields.
>> Other thoughts?

654
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:51,079
» I'm sorry. Do they even know it's
>> they know they know that the leases are

655
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:51,079
not now being held by not

656
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:58,640
youth. So my guess is yeah, they
probably do because they had to get the

657
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:03,440
leases rewritten.
>> And like I mentioned, the the railroad

658
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:07,040
all their operations have moved to or
their

659
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:10,480
» Georgia. So they I don't want to say
don't care, but

660
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,680
» care less than
>> we got their attention. We got their

661
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:18,480
attention when the town crew previously
managed to get the leases without

662
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:21,839
telling CB and then we called Norick and
made it known. they they pipe right on

663
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,920
up and send us a guy right on down here
to talk to us. So,

664
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:30,559
» um I think that when it comes to the
kids, they are responsible. They don't

665
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,680
want to take that away from them.
>> So, as long as you're not playing, you

666
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:36,240
know, if you come talk to them about
building a shopping center there, yeah,

667
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:39,920
they're going to tell you no, it's going
to the highest building, but they're not

668
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:45,520
going to take those fields out from
underneath kids whether they play one

669
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,920
time a year or every other day.
>> Okay. So, any other uh any other

670
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,280
thoughts?
>> I mean, I think exp exploring the

671
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:57,119
leasing option and bringing it under the
town of crew doing a study on you know

672
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:00,079
this the financial impacts of it and
what it could cost what bringing travel

673
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,119
ball would be is something we should
look into.

674
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,440
» Okay.
>> Yeah.

675
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:08,240
» Uh another thing that I thought I put
the the bulleted in here but I must have

676
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:15,599
left it out. Um
>> in theory um if you were to have a if

677
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:20,000
you wanted to create more equity um uh
and and opportunity for everyone that's

678
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:24,319
something that the uh that the county
could uh could take a lead in and

679
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:28,000
theoretically the county can establish a
parks and reccks department that that

680
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:32,559
oversees and ensures equity.
>> So, it's funny you should mention that

681
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:35,440
because I've spent probably 150 million
hours having that discussion with

682
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,720
members of the board of supervisors and
it was a great idea right up until

683
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:44,720
Blackstone spent a million dollars on
the complex they have. We wanted to talk

684
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,359
about building a spot um was that Reagan
store right there at Cherry Tree

685
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:52,559
Crossing. It would have been a perfect
area, middle of the of the area, plenty

686
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:56,240
of acorage where if we had bought it, we
could have built soccer fields and

687
00:50:53,839 --> 00:51:00,319
baseball fields and and buildings for
basketball and buildings for volleyball

688
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:04,160
and, you know, plenty of parking. The
problem with it is is in the meantime,

689
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:08,319
while not drugged its feet, the town of
Blackstone being the proactive town that

690
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,680
they are, they said, you know what,
we're going to drop 400,000 to build

691
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,040
these fields. And then the next year
they dropped another 100,000 in it. And

692
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:19,040
then they dropped another 100,000 in it.
and they've got great patent cages. They

693
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:24,880
just finished a football field for their
the the note Gator uh youth football

694
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:28,720
program that's not NYRA affiliated. It's
just another program in this in the c in

695
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:33,520
the town and they take care of
everything and it cost them I don't even

696
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,359
want to know what their maintenance
>> you have to look at their budget and see

697
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:38,640
what they spend
>> from the county as well. I mean look

698
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:43,920
where we went with the courthouse.
>> Yeah, I would stay for competitions like

699
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:47,839
that. We've got to be able to start
pushing forward for us

700
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:51,680
» so that the county will then pay
attention to us

701
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:54,079
» and not continue. Well, I'm I'm saying
that's why we need to fend for

702
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,720
ourselves.
>> Yeah.

703
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:59,440
» I'm not saying so I'll
>> and that can be done.

704
00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:03,359
» Idea should be here as we progress.
Phil, go ahead. I would look into some

705
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:08,960
of that. Bring it back to us. The
overriding thing should be do we want to

706
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:13,359
do we want to run fields or do we not?
Do we want to have somebody have that's

707
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,359
going to be in charge of scheduling or
not. Do we want to deal with the

708
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:22,640
insurance liability or not? That's not
cheap. Um, so there's lots of whatifs

709
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:28,319
that go with that. I would make that
decision with absolutely zero

710
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:32,319
consideration given to
Dixie girls softball, Dixie boys

711
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:37,760
baseball, which is now Diamond Boys
Baseball. Regardless of whether you get

712
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:43,119
kids back from NY, you need to know that
you got a use for those fields. and then

713
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:46,319
we can figure out how
from there.

714
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,720
» Okay. Nope. Uh that's uh that's that's
great. Um

715
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:52,400
» sorry I took a slow but there's a lot of
history there.

716
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:58,000
» Then and the uh the other thing
the other complicating factor is I

717
00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:02,480
believe Norfolk Southern is
trying [snorts] to merge or and there's

718
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,040
been hostile takeover attempts. So
there's a lot of corporate things going

719
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:10,400
on too
>> that I don't know how owning property

720
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,720
» impacts any of that.
Okay.

721
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:14,880
» Real estate.
>> Okay. I I will uh we'll we'll go from

722
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:18,400
there.
>> Steven.

723
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:23,359
» Okay. So, can we Yep.
>> Can move on. [clears throat]

724
00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:27,760
» 11E road name.
>> Okay. Um speaking [clears throat] of

725
00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:33,599
railroad, um we received a request from
a railroad employee.

726
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:37,520
They'd like a street address for um
delivery purposes at one of their one of

727
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:43,760
their sites basically right behind the
um road museum. And you could I think I

728
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:48,319
put in the uh the map on there.
>> Um site is part of a larger parcel that

729
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:53,119
uh has and the larger parcels address is
Robertson siding road.

730
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:57,359
» Uh but the tracks are between that part
and Robertson siding road. So, a

731
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:03,040
delivery driver couldn't, you know, go
down Robert Siding Road and access the

732
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:10,720
uh the spot. Um, it's primarily accessed
from 460 uh um to the road by the uh by

733
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:13,760
the railroad museum. Um I believe the uh
road is owned by the railroad.

734
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:17,680
» Absolutely, 100%.
>> Okay. And as far as I know, that road is

735
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,480
unnamed.
Virginia law grants localities the

736
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:25,359
ability to name streets, roads, and
alleys, including new private roads that

737
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:31,440
need official uh names in the 911
address database. Being a road for 911

738
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:36,400
addressing uh is not the same thing as
being a public street or statemaintained

739
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:40,880
road. Um so basically would just be for
naming. Um so once the road is named,

740
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:44,480
staff will uh determine a numbering
structure and send the information to

741
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:49,760
the county for entry into the 911
database. Um, so basically you need to

742
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:53,599
name a road. Um, I threw some uh some
possible names out there.

743
00:54:52,067 --> 00:54:56,640
[laughter]
>> We ignored the last one,

744
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:01,720
» right?
So any uh any thoughts?

745
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:09,200
» It would be
>> Isn't it between the picnic pavilion and

746
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,319
the railroad museum?
>> It's the one where you turn in for the

747
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:18,680
railroad museum. It's a It's on the map
there.

748
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Yeah, it's right. It's right.

749
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:26,838
» It's not the ball field side.
>> It's a train museum side.

750
00:55:24,818 --> 00:55:26,838
[snorts]

751
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,480
» You like what?
>> This is simple. Roundhouse Loop.

752
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,040
» Rename the park Railroad Park.
>> But is it a loop?

753
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,119
» It is a loop, isn't it?
>> It is.

754
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:53,119
» It loops. You go in, go.
>> I like that, too.

755
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:57,520
» Roundhouse.
>> Roundhouse.

756
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:01,119
» Roundhouse Loop sounds good. The other
ones sound weird to me.

757
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:07,280
» Drive.
>> Yeah, that's not that. Just something

758
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:12,960
simple. That's all we're doing is name
and Southern's permission.

759
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:16,880
» So, It's all up to the local. They can
call it whatever they want internally,

760
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:19,680
but for 911 purposes, it's the locality
that uh that

761
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,079
» names it.
>> Simple,

762
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:29,599
» right?
>> Okay. So,

763
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:34,240
» okay. So, can we What are we doing?
>> I do, too.

764
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,559
» Can we get a second?
>> Second.

765
00:56:34,799 --> 00:56:40,559
» Well, we haven't gotten Well, you you
said I vote.

766
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:43,599
» Well, I guess we just need to direct you
to move forward on finding out what we

767
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,559
need to do and all that, right?
>> No, that's a

768
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:53,599
» you have to do it by a motion.
>> So, can I get a motion on the name?

769
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:59,794
» I move that we authorize our town
manager to take whatever action

770
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:03,720
necessary to name that specific road
[clears throat]

771
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:03,720
park.

772
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:12,760
» Can I get a second for that?
>> A second.

773
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:12,760
» All in favor? I

774
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:27,359
» one day we'll get
>> Did you put your statue over there?

775
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:32,640
» Okay.
>> Okay. So, the motion carries. We're

776
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:38,480
moving on, guys. Okay.
>> Unfinished business.

777
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:42,880
» Okay. the boundary line adjustment um
last year. Um

778
00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:48,079
» him
>> just give him a second so I can explain.

779
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:53,040
» I am trying to stop. I am trying to
explain something so he understand what

780
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:56,240
we're talking about.
>> Well, let's hold up a minute and let

781
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:02,000
them settle.
>> Wait so Mr.

782
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:05,839
» Well, then we need to vote again
>> because I don't think he voted. Did you

783
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,720
vote?
Or did you not understand and you want

784
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,920
to revote?
>> I just wanted to see where it was.

785
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:17,599
» Do you need a pin?
>> Huh? Okay. All right. So, we can move on

786
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:18,720
now. Or is everything okay?
>> Uh,

787
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,599
» okay.
>> Pointing out a different road.

788
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:28,640
» All right. So, we're moving on to 12A
boundary line adjustment.

789
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:33,359
» Okay. Um, yep. Uh, as you know, we're uh
we're looking at uh adjusting the uh the

790
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:37,920
boundary line um to include uh the
indust uh the rest of the industrial

791
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:43,280
park that's not uh already included. Um
which means some of the Luxone property.

792
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:49,119
Also trying to grab in the um take in
the uh uh Dominion substation out there.

793
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Um our cemetery which is not in the town
of Crew.

794
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,880
» That's weird, isn't it?
>> It is. you know, so when people, you

795
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,839
know, spend the
>> their eternity in the in the crew

796
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,440
cemetery, they probably want to be in
the in the town of Crew.

797
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:05,440
» Um
just a sliver of the uh railroad

798
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:13,920
property that's not currently in town on
on Robertson Siding Road. Um

799
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:20,000
the town shop um and you know, just just
cleaning up things a bit. Um, we finally

800
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:25,680
got the um
uh the survey back from uh from the

801
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:30,400
surveyor. Um, and I'm working on color
coding that for, you know, for

802
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:36,480
advertisement and such. Um, like we had
our our last one color coded by by owner

803
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:41,280
and such. Um, so next steps are confirm
the So, last time I talked to the board

804
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:45,599
about it was several months ago. Uh,
they seemed willing to proceed. So I

805
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:49,359
just have to confirm that um with them.
Uh then each body schedules a public

806
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:53,440
hearing and advertises. Notices are sent
to all impacted and adjacent property

807
00:59:51,280 --> 01:00:01,960
owners. Public hearings are held. Both
bodies agreed to the BLA and BLA is

808
00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:01,960
submitted to the circuit court. Um so

809
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:08,400
» uh and well a lot of that's already
already drafted from the from the last

810
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:13,280
time we did this. So uh so
>> got some uh you know templates we can

811
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:17,520
use there. So, um, depending on how
quickly I can hear back from the board,

812
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:24,520
um, I might put that on the agenda for
our work session. Um, just so we can

813
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,520
keep moving forward.

814
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,119
» Okay.
>> Call a work session just to talk about

815
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:32,400
that.
>> No, it's a it's the budget work session

816
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:38,160
on the uh on
>> the fourth Tuesday of this month.

817
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:42,160
» Mostly budget, but
>> Okay. So, can we move on or?

818
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:47,359
» Yep. And unless there are any other
questions.

819
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:52,640
» Okay. 12B architectural review board.
>> Uh, does anyone have any suggestions for

820
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:56,960
the architectural review board?
>> Do you not have anyone to be on it?

821
01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:03,920
» Uh, I did talk to someone. Um, I need to
just confirm. Uh, it's an individual who

822
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:09,119
does who lives in Blackstone but does um
historic renovations.

823
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:13,680
uh and you know sounds like he he'd be
willing to do it. I just want to confirm

824
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:17,839
with him. Um and then that that would be
the one person who's not on the So if

825
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:23,119
you'll recall there are five members of
the board, three of whom would be coming

826
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:27,599
from business or property ownership
within the uh the historic district. So

827
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:33,200
if you can especially focus on those
individuals um we can

828
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,440
point them at uh at and and then of
course one member of the planning

829
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,440
commission which we'll talk to the
planning commission about at the

830
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:41,839
planning commission meeting.
>> Okay.

831
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:45,119
» Uh and speaking of planning commission I
don't have it on here but also be

832
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:50,079
thinking about at least one member of
planning commission one has asked to um

833
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,599
not serve at the end of the this current
term.

834
01:01:51,520 --> 01:02:00,319
» Yes.
>> Okay. Perfect.

835
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:03,280
Okay, so let's move on toformational
items.

836
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:08,160
» Um, I may have included this last time,
but if not, or if I did, then you get to

837
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:13,920
see it twice. The um uh annual reports
in there. Uh, the um proposal from Hearn

838
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:17,839
Profit uh is in there. And uh I I
especially included that just so you can

839
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:21,920
uh you can see the timeline of uh of
what we're looking at. And BDH was okay

840
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:26,079
with the uh with the timeline. I was a
little nervous at first because it's

841
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:31,040
pushing it way back farther than I uh
than I thought. Um

842
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:37,040
but uh but basically they'd be opening
bids uh end of this year uh December

843
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:42,240
10th uh give or take. So um they're
doing a field investigations uh the

844
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:48,480
design completion then uh uh putting
everything out for bid. Uh so that means

845
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:53,359
um early next year uh is when
construction will start.

846
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:57,200
Uh any thoughts, comments, questions on
that?

847
01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:00,799
Okay. Um
you also had have in there the uh the

848
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:07,400
press release regarding uh Officer West
who uh who left us for Sussex. So don't

849
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:07,400
go speeding through um

850
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:16,640
» No.
>> No.

851
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:22,640
» No. He's um
>> Yeah. No, he he he was a he's a great uh

852
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:26,160
great great employee. Um uh but he
followed a girl I think. Yeah.

853
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,480
» Yeah.
>> Is is what happened there.

854
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,079
» Um
>> that's not a bad reason.

855
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:41,760
» So uh so um yep with that. Oh and uh
just a few events. I believe the

856
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:48,160
supper this uh this month is uh
spaghetti. So come out for for pasta on

857
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:52,400
the on the fourth Thursday. Um, and the
food truck rodeo, the tas of crew.

858
01:03:51,139 --> 01:03:57,119
[laughter] Still like that.
>> No, it's not. I texted him after I got

859
01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:01,520
like 10 people texting me saying it's
>> taste the crew. It said t a s e.

860
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:06,000
» Yes.
>> Um, but no, it has been changed.

861
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,880
» What is the the date of that?
>> That's Friday night.

862
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:12,160
» That is this Friday night. So, come out
for that on this Friday night. And I

863
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:17,200
will say the last one it was pouring
down raining and they were all texting

864
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:21,039
me saying this is great. We've got such
a great turnout. So I'm thinking if they

865
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,599
all came out in the rain they'll really
come out in the sunshine.

866
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:28,400
» Absolutely.
>> I saw the um the lobster truck that I

867
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:32,240
» Yeah, the lobster truck will be here
Friday night

868
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:38,720
» which you know it's no different than
than getting a lobster roll in Boston.

869
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:43,119
» Oh yeah, but they're good. the um
>> and budget work session is April 28th

870
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,280
that Tuesday. So
>> okay,

871
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:50,319
» what time is that?
>> 6

872
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:56,559
» 6 28. Okay. So once again just reminding
everyone we do have a five minute limit

873
01:04:53,839 --> 01:05:00,680
on our comments. Is there anyone who
wishes to speak from the audience?

874
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:09,119
Okay.
>> If I gotcha. If there's no one else,

875
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:13,039
we're going to move on. Announce and
announcements and points of personal

876
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:16,960
privilege. This is an opportunity for
each member of council to provide

877
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,760
announcements about personal or
community happenings.

878
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:25,039
Councilman
>> Payne,

879
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:29,960
» Councilman Stith,
>> what is the

880
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,960
date?

881
01:05:31,355 --> 01:05:36,799
[laughter]
and then council.

882
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:41,680
» So, as soon as USDA gets back to me, um
we're, you know, we we have the the

883
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:47,359
funding uh allocated by Congress. I send
in uh send in the paperwork. They just

884
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:51,359
have to uh have to get back to me on um
basically there's, of course, it's the

885
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:56,720
Fed, so they have their processes. Uh
they'll have to review the um uh uh

886
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,119
information from the engineers that I
sent them, and they'll have to review

887
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:06,000
the budget and and all that. And then um
I believe from what they told me there's

888
01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:09,119
no
um

889
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,720
additional procurement outside of our
own procurement that that we need to go

890
01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:17,119
through. So it's uh hopefully pretty
quickly. Now, of course, we'd have to um

891
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:22,520
put it out for bid. Um we we do have a
quote and a uh and and a um

892
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:30,720
plan from from at least one uh firm for
underneath. Um, but hopefully very

893
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,559
quickly. You
>> think it'll be done this year?

894
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:39,400
» I would hope so.
I I I would do it tomorrow if I could.

895
01:06:41,441 --> 01:06:45,680
[laughter]
>> Councilman Davis, do you have anything?

896
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,680
» I don't have a single thing.
>> Vice Mayor Stensson,

897
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:57,359
» on May 30th, there will be a Let's Get
Dirty festival at the community garden.

898
01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:03,920
» I'm glad you explained it. over at the
library and there'll be um free hot dogs

899
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:08,640
and hamburgers. Um there'll hopefully be
vendors with garden related or craft

900
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:13,680
kind of things. Um there'll be
demonstrations on um

901
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:17,440
planting and
>> and that's May 30th.

902
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:23,359
» May 30th from 10 to 2.
>> Okay, everybody got that?

903
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:28,240
» They um
I've got to be at the school. Robin can

904
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:33,039
probably tell me more about this than I
even know, but I have to be at the

905
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:38,559
school in the morning cuz they're
receiving some kind of major award honor

906
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:42,480
that they've never had something to do
at the H yaw school, the mini

907
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:46,319
auditorium.
>> Oh, it's the um

908
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:49,760
» All I know is I have to be there with
the other mayors, but I don't know why.

909
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:56,640
» Um
gosh, it's the Gear Virginia. So, Gear

910
01:07:52,559 --> 01:08:00,720
Virginia is uh given to seventh graders.
It's a grant. If you have children or

911
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:05,599
grandchildren that's currently in the
11th grade, they got it um when they

912
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:11,039
were in the seventh grade. And that
grant will follow the student with

913
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:15,839
special programming opportunities to go
on field trips and different things.

914
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:19,759
Now, I know that the one that they're
currently going to wrap up next year

915
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:23,759
when those kids graduate, they also get
a little money. It's not a whole lot of

916
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:28,080
money, but it's like a thousand or so
that they'll get towards their college.

917
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:33,279
Um, as
>> this one is seventh grade that they're

918
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:36,960
kicking off for the new seventh graders,
>> but I don't think that's what she said.

919
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:42,880
She she was talking about
>> happy hour cafe and she was talking

920
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:48,319
about an award the department of
education will be there in the morning

921
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:54,000
and TV channels and all of that, but I
didn't Okay. Well, we're not

922
01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:59,199
» Virginia. That was in my email today was
Gear of Virginia was happening. Um that

923
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:02,267
they're kicking that off because I said
um

924
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:05,839
» No, it's
[snorts]

925
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:08,319
» No, it's okay. I just I didn't get the
whole explanation. I just was told to be

926
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:14,799
there.
>> There's a lot there's so many things

927
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:19,759
going on that I don't know.
>> Okay. Councilwoman Sataweski,

928
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:23,199
» nothing for me. Nothing happening at the
library.

929
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,319
» Well, Ann already mentioned uh one
thing.

930
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,400
» Okay.
>> Yeah. And we do have an Earth Day event

931
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:34,400
coming up on the 22nd
>> of May

932
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:39,279
» of April. Okay. All righty.
>> Okay. Nothing. All right.

933
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:42,319
» I will say that the governor did sign
our bill today. So that is now law.

934
01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:46,080
» Happy day.
>> Effective July 1st.

935
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:51,199
» So I would like to ask the town manager
to take us into close session. Sure. Um,

936
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:57,040
we need a motion to go into close
session for pursuant to Virginia Code

937
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:59,760
section 2.2-3711A3.
Discussion or consideration of the

938
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:03,199
acquisition of real property for public
purpose or for the disposition of

939
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:06,640
publicly held real property where
discussion in an open meeting would

940
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:12,159
adversely affect the bargaining position
or negotiating strategy of the public

941
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:17,360
body. And A8 um discussion of a uh
potential uh economic development

942
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:21,440
» prospect. A A8 is legal guidance for
advice with a consultation with legal

943
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:25,040
counsel. A5 is the one you're looking
for development project that hasn't been

944
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,960
publicly announced.
>> Okay. So A5 devel economic development

945
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,080
project that hasn't been publicly
announced.

946
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:32,960
» Okay.
>> Thank you, Eric.

947
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:36,480
» Can I have a motion?
>> I move we go into close session.

948
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,199
» Is there a second?
>> Second.

949
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:43,920
» All in favor?
>> Opposed?

950
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:47,800
» We are in close session. and take about
five minutes for a break.

951
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:56,880
» Is there a flyer for this week's um food
truck radio?