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the money

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good evening everybody i'd like to call
this meeting to order

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you must like say a prayer
we stand for the pledge allegiance

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i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
united states of america

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and to the republic for which it stands
one nation under god indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all

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roll call mr ashford
mr hayes

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oh

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this was ella

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mr michael yes he would have won mayor
brown yes mr ashford yes yes

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yes
and there is no public comment this

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evening

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administrators report right okay i know
i know it looks long but i'll go quick

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anyway uh events and
recreation of course we got ice fest

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going on right now uh
good report on crowds last week looking

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at the
initial traffic counts it look they look

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pretty good um i didn't i needed to
compare it to the

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say the weekend before and to see really
what's going on but we had

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we had just on sunday alone well over 10
000 cars coming to town that was just on

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sunday
and i hear that saturday was even

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greater number of people but from the
council probably about the same i think

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i thought sunday was busier
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from the traffic counts it was so did
you say we had account for my sure you

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don't have that i don't i don't have
those weekends for last year but we'll

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get that when we wrap everything up well
let's do it anyways more ice arrived

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today and there will be more carvings
scheduled to be completed before this

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weekend
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the gas enrolled sea store has excuse me
right sure i just had a couple comments

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this but yeah um
i kind of take an uh informal poll on my

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people when they come in if i have time
they're a little busy down there too

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which was great the crowds were
phenomenal some of the comments i

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they were
parking of course not a lot we all know

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that was going to be a problem
there was some concerns about

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mostly from locals
stopping traffic at 5th street

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i agree that we should keep doing that
and i explained to them

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at least in my mind the reason we do
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is when people get to fourth street they
got to turn right or left and we had

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almost a steady stream of pedestrians
yeah and is that pretty correct that's

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why we're doing that and it it would
have created a bottleneck probably up to

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the gasoline roll um
uh some people were a little bit uh

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not disappointed but their comments were
they thought there'd be more carvings

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yeah this this year i think at this
point we're down and one reason is

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is because
they've had five carvers in the la in

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the in the past and i got three carvers
this year

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and and while they
committed to taking up that slack those

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three carvers
they kind of got a little behind i guess

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because of the weather and they didn't
want to get too much put out there

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because of the impending weather that's
why more ice came today and then and

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they uh marketing assured me that they
should be out there carving tomorrow so

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so while it is unfortunate
and i think i think

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the main comments have been big crowd
fewer carpets yeah but they didn't

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comment that the cardinals they were
pretty spectacular they are also uh

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um what how many uh ported
port bodies or whatnot and where were

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they does anybody know that

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they're shown behind the beer tank i
never got down there were they up on

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this
steve with public works um

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there are four
at second bennett

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on the north side of bennett
and then there are three or four right

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down behind the tent kind of
second street still on second street

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i don't know if we even have a space
kind of in between where we could put

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maybe one
or two of those

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i'm not saying we need to increase
the number of them but or maybe down

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there that wasn't enough i don't know uh
is is what we have this year

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typical um i don't track that that would
be a marketing thing well

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let's look into that
because that's that's good they could

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throw a couple more on i know it's going
to cost

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and john set up over there and i agree i
mean it it's not going to be

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substantially more money but no but to
tell people yeah go over by the train

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station we've got some over there
anywhere else on bennett is not a good

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spot because of the sculptures because
of the food and that kind of stuff if we

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could get them on third i was thinking
about that there's not a real good spot

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on third
city hall parking lot because it is

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closed might be a spot for it you know
i've done it in the past and i just got

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by me this year i'll put a big sign in
my window that says feel free to use our

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restroom look at that

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those were the only
comments i had what's that i'll check

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and see if you need a permit for that
sign

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i think there is a formula on
so many

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corn johnson
people yeah

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all i had but great jobs good job so do
we know why that was less cultured

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yeah that's what i was saying we had we
had three three sculpting outfits come

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in rather than five this year
and part of it was because i think of

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some of the problems that have happened
in the past i think just

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i'm not sure of all the details but they
they elected

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the ice committee elected to just bring
the tree back this year and those three

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were supposed to be able to take up the
slack and had just as many ice carvings

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but i know when i talked to
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on wednesday
they were running a little bit behind

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the carvers were and they were concerned
about the weather and whatnot so

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so that's why they're making it up they
should be out there tomorrow carving and

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so so while this weekend will be better
it would still be nice to had a full

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full streak
last last weekend too

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be nice when you get the word out i
think we did a little bit to the

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news station saying hey we have more
eyes and more sculptures for next

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weekend we have been getting a lot of
medium coverage it's been pretty good

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yeah there were a couple blogs and a
good day

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that
you know we came up here and

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wasn't
much to see and other people going oh

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good i'm glad we didn't come up so it
kind of hit us a little bit but yeah

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we'll work through it somebody was
sharing oh it was it was the hitching

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post down there saying that people came
in there and they didn't complain about

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the number they said they'd been up
long on or somewhere and he said this

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was much better oh good
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anything else on that okay
the gas and roll c store opened up this

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weekend um paul and some others uh kind
of jump through some hoops to to get my

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to get signatures on on on the prevents
and whatnot so

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got that and i guess there's still the
official ribbon cutting i guess for this

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coming third or wednesday
yeah next thursday the 25th

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um
a couple of us uh councilman uh ashworth

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and i attended the county cares award
ceremony up at the heritage center last

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tuesday on the ninth it was very well
attended i mean it was packed and the

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heritage center and that group did a
good job getting things set up

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i think the wild blue i think the
wildlife catered it forget who catered

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it the line was so long for the food i
just had coffee

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um and then it would have been longer
probably could have been another

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establishment serving but you know i'd
like to think so yeah and then and then

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there was a list a long list of
well-deserving recipients

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but there was no stand-up comedians this
year because

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you didn't say anything no i didn't
murder god yeah that's right mary yeah

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mary did mary mary bill's close got the
uh got the

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centennial award or something i thought
she didn't look 100 but you know

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so there was a stand up to me
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anyway
we talked last time about the permit of

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permit amendment 11 for triple clicking
victor gold mining company

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and how they were planning on submitting
an amendment to the amendment which they

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did
which means that the comment period now

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has been extended assuming it get got in
the paper today which would have been

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the courier
assuming they got in the paper today

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they'll advertise for four consecutive
weeks then there's 20 day period just to

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when comments at the end so they will
take it to march 29th so i'll be

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looking at that permit looking at the
amendment to the amendment see what's

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going on and assuming that you all
want to review the comments you want to

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submit them
city staff will go ahead and submit

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those
city council members attended the annual

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colorado municipal league legislative
update last week in denver

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and
of course met with some legislators

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there got some updates the governor gave
a speech kind of the kind of state of

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the state speech
and then uh and then while we were there

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a bill that uh that creek is
actually sponsoring this year in the

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legislator legislature it's senate bill
16-73

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and while it may seem kind of insane i
don't know how many people have asked to

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be audited
uh purple creek is is asking that the

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true gaming
that the state auditor be allowed to

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audit the three
gaming communities in colorado

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and as far as how
the use of exterior preservation funds

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are being used
uh we think that we're doing quite well

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and we're staying within what the voters
voted in and expected in 1991 we just

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want to make sure the other two gaming
towns are spending those money

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like they're supposed to be oddly enough
without this bill

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the state auditor cannot audit us
for the use of state funds those

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particular funds it's kind of kind of an
odd thing and so

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to us it's a transparency bill and
there's a couple reasons why we want to

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do that is make sure that the
funds are being spent properly and

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wisely
and to make sure that the voters know

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that we're spending them properly and
wisely so if another initiative comes up

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which it likely might
before november another ballot

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initiative to try to expand gaming in
colorado that the people will know that

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these two gaming communities are above
board and they won't say well they're

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they're wasting money anyway let's just
go ahead and make gaming happen in

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pueblo and other places so that's
another reason why we're doing it

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but anyway uh
mayor brown

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paul harris finance director myself we
testified before the senate finance

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committee in support of the bill
blackhawk got up and in support of the

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bill as well they wanted an amendment to
it

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really an amendment that we just changed
put a sunset clause on like after 10

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years that if if the auditor doesn't
find anything that the bill would die

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but it could only be voted back in
and then it passed today on the second

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region before the senate and it needs to
pass the third reading before the senate

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before it moves to the house of
representatives for approval that will

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happen in the
in the next several weeks

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well tomorrow
unless you all tell me not to

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i'm scheduled to give the update for creek at the fourth annual

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keller county outlook that will be held
at the u pass cultural center of

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woodland park
starts at 7 30 tomorrow morning so i'll

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be going directly to there in the
morning i'll be finishing my

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presentation after this meeting to be
fresh in my mind for the morning

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um
there's you know there's a lot of good

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stuff to talk about uh this year last
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we were the the term we used last year
was cautiously optimistic we were

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talking about there was talk of a
convenience store going in and so we saw

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that the numbers from 2015 with the
gaming industry and even sales tax were

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positive the c-store has gone in open
we've had several businesses open so

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i'll be just kind of listing off some of
those businesses that have gone in over

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the last year and if you
if you i didn't bring the list with you

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but you know if you just think about it
we've got of course the convenience

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store gas station has gone in the auto
repair store

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borealis brothers pizza
beer works

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there's talk of another pizza place
borealis or whatever expanding down on

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bennett avenue
new owners of the seas of the triple

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creek candy store
and so all of those point to

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people having
faith and and

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encouraged by the economic outcome of
triple creeks so i think growth spot is

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great you know
so that's kind of the message i'll be

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sending
and the last thing i want to talk about

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tonight
we talked about it late last year

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when we put out solicitation to
businesses of the

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owners of existing build buildings in
town for solicitation for a possible

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relocation and update of our kids
station

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we sent those out we got a few bids back
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any of the buildings that were offered
the ones

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that kind of fit
what the need would be

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were really expensive you know like
three million bucks

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and so so we decided because you know
the thought was if we could

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take a vacant building in town and
repurpose it that's better than

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it could be better than building a new
building still having a vacant building

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well
while it was a great idea it didn't it's

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a great idea because i thought
but it was an okay idea it didn't work

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out but
but um

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chief rulo
had looked around the city where we

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could put a place
uh councilman ashworth had mentioned

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that by public works before
and while we don't do a land out that

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way
utilities become an issue and even

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access i mean now you're talking okay do
you have the police out there on an

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unpaved road and that kind of stuff and
to be more maintenance on that road the

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cost to pay the license anyway chief
rule identified a place that the city

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owns the property
one and a half acres

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that sits between
the the state road uh

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tdot
fenced in area just below

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the gold king mountain and the gold king
mountain there's sort of a a slightly

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greater place over there that's one and
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just to see
what some options were we invited a

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group
that's associated with the university of

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colorado in denver
it's the colorado center center for

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community development it's a program
called the uta university technical

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assistance and that's what i i gave
before you tonight

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and what they do is this this
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the cccd
worked with students

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design students architect students from
university of colorado and they worked

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with the department of local affairs to
provide designs

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which is about 10 cents on the dollar
what you would pay

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another applicant now they don't do
final construction drawings what they do

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is they do the conceptual drawings and
layout and give you an estimated cost of

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what it would build and then what it
would take they also help facilitate

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public meetings to make sure that the
public understands what's going on

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and to try to
you know build support for the project

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and well first of all see if the
community wants it well i think

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i think
i don't know whether community wants it

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but i think that you really need this
okay based on where we are anybody that

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has
been in the police station voluntarily

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and walk through there
know that it's kind of a cramped area if

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you've gone in there involuntarily
everybody's looks cramped

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but anyway
if you look at this

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to do the scope of work which is
basically do what i just said to to hold

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a couple public meetings
larger meetings and then even talk with

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the people that would be more local that
would be more impacted by that

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plus provide a design plus cost
of it an estimated cost of that which

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that packet then becomes part of grant
grant applications that you can submit

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to the state and others for the building
of this

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to do that
they they partner with department of

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local affairs on that so the cost to do
all that was a total of fifty five

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hundred dollars of which crippled creek
would have to put up two thousand seven

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hundred fifty of that and dollar would
put up the other fifty percent so that

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that is really
economical to do

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but
what we haven't done

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is we've talked about it with the
council casually this is the first time

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since you've heard about this particular
site what we haven't done is we haven't

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had a public workshop to get public
input and really to sit down and look at

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other places i mean i'm just looking at
it on google earth and other things at

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the city what would be a good location
for something like this in the city

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i don't know all the property the city
owns in town but i personally think

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that we should have at least one public
meeting we'll announce it and say here's

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what we're thinking about doing
what are some pros and cons of various

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sites or is there only one site in town
that we want to consider which is this

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particular site but i don't want anybody
to think that this site's being shut

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down the throat i did contact the
wildwood since they're the closest to

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any of that
and so what do you think about a police

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station being right up the street and
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general manager of the wildwood had
absolutely no concern about it at all

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and so
uh he's all full

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uh there are several things to consider
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uh in in addition to just the the
police station there is you put a police

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station there there's there's talk of a
possible another hotel there you've got

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the convenience store now we've got to
start looking at logistics for traffic

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and so there's other things we might
want to consider

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there that i've spoken to steve and
steve is all in favor of it

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and one thing i was talking about is a
possible roundabout there and there's

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pros and cons to those
and but um but all the big all the big

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tour cities have them guys

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anyway so i just i gave you that packet
to look at they also

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they also provided one of these uh for
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for possible
downtown parks and stuff as well so

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so anyway if you just want to review
that i would suggest we have if you're

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in favor of it
uh a public workshop before our next

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city council meeting on the second
and then and then we can get this

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this moving assuming we come up with a
decision if it takes a second public

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workshop or the public workshop so be it
whatever it takes

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but once once in mou once we agree to
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and an mru is signed between
the uh this university of colorado and

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that program in the city he feels it'll
take six to eight months to go through

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the process so what we would be looking
at

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would be going through this process this
year spending two thousand assuming

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the cost looks good
and then we look at possible grant

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options and funding options
then you go in 2017 with design

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and then early 2018 you build it and
hopefully build it i mean so that would

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probably be the absolute best schedule
you could look at

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but we wrote i really can't give you a
recommendation on going forward until we

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know about what it would cost
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looking at the square footage of what we
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need which is about 7 500 square feet
we'll look and see if going up to 9 000

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square foot does it would be one floor
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look at the cosmic 7 500 square feet
you're looking at about a 2 million

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dollar 2.5 million dollar project
there are some funds available out there

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mike's been putting some funds
back from e911

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and so we'll have a couple hundred
thousand bucks in that there's some

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other funds possible to upgrade dispatch
which will be 230

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so with the land we would get it
appraised that would be a value of

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putting into the project because that
that's what they look for when they're

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when they're submitting grants they rate
you on okay what what kind of match do

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you have so we would have the match of
the of the emergency services funds

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which is say say we're talking five or
six hundred thousand bucks

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say the the price of the land 1.5 acres
in that pretty active area which should

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have praised pretty good
and so to so say that's another couple

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hundred thousand bucks so maybe maybe
we're up maybe we're up to

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700 thousand to a million dollars in
matching funds just what i told you

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tonight and if it costs another million
well you can often find

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50 matching funds so it could be that
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doesn't have to put up much more than
what we already have available

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okay
okay

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and that's all i have i'll schedule a
workshop next accounts meeting

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okay
and so what i'll do is i'll talk to

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uh jeff wood who put this together for
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is that right food yeah and ask him if
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wants to come and then we'll decide if
we take an hour 4 30 to 5 30 or maybe we

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all started at four just in case
but maybe an hour is enough i don't know

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what you all think
4 30 5 30

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4 30.
it's 5 30. yeah

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do an hour and if we have to do a second
one we'll do the second one next okay

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great good that's all i had
you missed the city white king

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oh gosh i missed the city-wide cleanup
oh yeah number four iron four

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public works director steve cabello
today came in and said that they would

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like to schedule the spring citywide
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on saturday sunday may 21st and 22nd
wonderful

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great program great program

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good good timing yes

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all right thanks ray okay thanks for
pulling me out sure

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very important
item number one second reading of

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ordinance number two zero one six zero
one a bill for an ordinance approving

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the rezoning of the property described
as lots 17-30 and lot 34r block 4

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highland view edition cook creek
colorado

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this is the second reading of this
ordinance

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just asking for approval
from the commission

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would like to

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change any public comment

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make a motion that we approve ordinance
number

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2016-01 is written
seven

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nope mr lopez

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i did not take 20 minutes yes sir
councilman

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thanks guys for coming out
have a good night