1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,520 special budget workshop uh to finish outstanding budget items to order at 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:12,400 6:02 p.m. Um we'll start with citizens 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:19,240 comments. If there are any citizens here that wish to speak on any matter of the 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,240 budget, you may now do so. 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:29,279 Okay. Um I will do one more call. Hearing no citizens comments, we'll now 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:34,399 move on to item C1, which is any unfinished uh business from the March 7 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:42,000 2026 budget workshops. So I believe where we left off was that we needed to 8 00:00:38,879 --> 00:00:48,840 have further discussions about um the technology item which was item T 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,920 technology. 10 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:05,840 What number would technology >> number seven building under building 11 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:10,960 inspection? Um okay. So the council um had lots of questions about this open 12 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,479 go.gov process where we were in the process. 13 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,280 » Yep. >> Want to consider taking 14 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:33,119 » Okay. So we'll start with seven. Um, so there is a memo that we got from I 15 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:38,079 think from John outlining the open.gov status. Um, Mr. Town Manager or Sharon, 16 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:42,600 is there anything else you or or Amanda, is there anything else you'd like to add 17 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,600 to this? 18 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,280 » Great. Thank you. Go ahead, Amanda. >> Sure. So, um, I just handed out a memo 19 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,520 from, uh, John Eaggan, the building official. He uh contacted several towns, 20 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:57,360 Rocky Hill, Weathersfield, Glastonbury, and Farmington to find out how long it 21 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,960 took them to get it up and running and uh live their open gov permitting 22 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:05,119 process. And it seems that they all were had a time frame of between six months 23 00:02:02,399 --> 00:02:09,520 to one year. So um we are within that time frame right now. We are um we're a 24 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,720 little further out than we expected to go live. Not not much, but it's because 25 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,080 we had a staff member that was out in medical leave, which is when I jumped 26 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:20,160 in. But um we've since caught up. We've got our IT um consultant helping us 27 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:25,200 create forms and that's going really well. So um our current um phase, we're 28 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:28,239 in the development process and we're soon approaching the offline training 29 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,640 portion. So that's when all the applications are built um and they're 30 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:37,200 actually workable. Then we can start um working with the company again to uh 31 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:40,640 train staff to use the program as if it were live just to make sure we get all 32 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:44,560 the kinks out before we actually make it live. So um we are moving forward with 33 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:51,519 the process. Do we have an estimated go live date? 34 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:55,760 » Um, at this time, uh, the building official did not give me one. I think 35 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:59,360 I'll have a better idea, um, after next week once RIT, he just kind of started 36 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,319 getting involved with it to speed up the process. So, once he really gets into 37 00:03:00,959 --> 00:03:06,360 it, I think by the end of next week, I can get a better idea. 38 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,360 » Okay. 39 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:15,200 So what is the what is the process look like for phase four which is the create 40 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:21,800 documents which will be reviewed for defects. Is that so how's that different 41 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,800 than number two which is the templates? 42 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,360 » Yeah, I'll read I'll read it so you don't have to pull it out. So number two 43 00:03:25,519 --> 00:03:31,840 says all designated departments work independently of open gov on templates 44 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:35,519 provided by open gov to create record types similar to current applications 45 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:40,159 being used by the town of Cromwell in its current paper application system. 46 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:44,319 And then phase four is all designated departments create documents which will 47 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,560 be reviewed I'm sorry not which will be reviewed by open gov for defects. So is 48 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:52,159 that like uploading the things that they made in phase two to phase four? 49 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:57,439 » I think that's they're probably speaking to the training part of it. So um right 50 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:02,080 so we had the company agreed to build out certain forms for us. So we'll say 51 00:03:58,959 --> 00:04:04,480 one from each department but um each department has several forms. So what 52 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,439 we're actually doing is taking that initial form and building it out so that 53 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:13,439 it is um tailored to the specific permit. So right now we're almost 54 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:17,840 finished creating all the forms for each department. So what I'm thinking that 55 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,199 means I can verify but what I would think that means is that when we're done 56 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:25,040 building out the forms this is when we start working with open gov to actually 57 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,800 input the information and make sure it's working correctly as it should before we 58 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:35,560 go live. So, we are right before that phase. 59 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,560 » I don't know what you're showing me. 60 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,560 » I don't know what you're showing me. Sorry. 61 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:48,400 » Yeah. No, it's okay. I don't have my email in front of me, but 62 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:52,560 » I'm just curious as to how these are not standardized forms. If they've done this 63 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:57,680 with so many other towns already, why isn't there just a blanket form that I 64 00:04:55,919 --> 00:05:03,280 mean I'm assuming that building permits all ask the same specific questions as 65 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,800 opposed to all of the other type permitting stuff? 66 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:10,800 » Yes. So, we are using forms. So, what is allowed per our contract? We were only 67 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,080 allowed one built out form per department. If we if we had them do all 68 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:18,479 of our different forms, it would have been an extra fee. What they have done 69 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,520 for us is allow us to um use forms from other towns. For example, right now 70 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,479 we're using Glastonberries to tweak it to make the process a little quicker. So 71 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:27,680 like I said, we did have someone out in medical leave, but since it got 72 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:31,360 involved, it's really helped speed up the process. So we aren't starting from 73 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:35,199 scratch. We are using Glastonbury forms because we researched and we found that 74 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:38,759 theirs were um similar to ours. >> Okay. 75 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:38,759 » Yes. 76 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:49,759 um with regards to the um stuff that John points out in his 77 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,039 memo with it like being tied together on the back end of the application like the 78 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:57,199 building department, tax department, assessor department can automatically 79 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:01,919 keep updates. So is this are they also building like the back of house system 80 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:05,680 that if I don't know some a value of something changes the form will 81 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,639 automatically like not know that information so when somebody fills it 82 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,160 out like it'll correct itself. >> So every night uh the server I don't 83 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,880 know they talk to each other so every night when we go home they communicate 84 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,639 so anything that was done on the building or zoning side updates in the 85 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,680 assessor database as well. We paid you know that money was part of the money 86 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:27,680 that was approved we paid for that uh specific portion. So the the open what 87 00:06:24,479 --> 00:06:30,160 open govs is that happening already the that that that server is talking that's 88 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,360 already happening. >> Yes that's happening. 89 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:39,680 » Okay. So like for example with the assessor updating the um farm stuff like 90 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:43,759 when she did redid all that that automatically overnight would update 91 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:47,440 back into the system to be corrected. >> From what I understand it it updates um 92 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:51,520 I wish Sea was here but from what I understand it updates any permits that 93 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:55,199 were uh done related to that property. So like you can just go to one place and 94 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,600 see okay this is the address and these are the permits that were approved or 95 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,039 pending on going >> and that's already that's already in 96 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:02,720 place. It's the filling out the new permits that is the part that they're 97 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:06,400 still building >> filling out the forms. We're as far as I 98 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,400 uh understand we're almost done but it's really the filling out um completing the 99 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:14,080 forms and tailoring them to each application is what was taking uh the 100 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,080 longest. >> Okay. So got it. Go ahead. 101 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:22,319 » Am I understand that? All right. So from what I understand from the original 102 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:26,960 proposal was all of the departments will be intertwined and and this this system 103 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,840 will be a sharing process. So let's say somebody pulls a building permit for an 104 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:36,880 addition. Will that then automatically update the assessor's information to 105 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:41,199 assess the the the actual you know addition 106 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:45,039 and will it you know everybody who is involved rather than going from office 107 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:49,680 to office and handing forms. Is this going to interlink everybody so that 108 00:07:47,599 --> 00:07:52,880 everyone's on the same page? >> I am not sure about the assessor 109 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,479 question. I know that like if it was building planning and zoning or if it 110 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:01,039 was uh building health, I know all those departments talk to each other. So for 111 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:03,759 example, if they got a zoning permit to um build something on one main street. 112 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Yeah. >> Uh the building department or if the 113 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,680 zoning department so it would start with the zoning and the building department 114 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,120 would be tasked off on it. So in the system building would be flagged. Hey, 115 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,639 we have a permit. It's going through zoning. Um it's approved and now it's 116 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,280 your turn to inspect it. So, I know as far as that goes, they all talk to each 117 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,440 other. I would have to check on the assessor one. I felt like that was more 118 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,520 of like a database communication versus like tasking the assessor to do 119 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 something. >> Okay. 120 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:31,599 » In my experience, that doesn't really happen like in those kinds of systems 121 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:38,200 for with the assessor's office. >> Okay. 122 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:38,200 » Any other questions on this? 123 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:47,440 If you had to throw a dart, Amanda, as to like a month that you think the forms 124 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:52,240 will be live online for residents to start using, do we think it'll be done 125 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:58,160 in this fiscal year, like June? >> Oh, I hope so. Honestly, I hope it's 126 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:01,839 done by July 1st. And I I really think with having our IT 127 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:06,080 consultant helping us, I I don't think that it would be longer than that. We 128 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:10,640 really not aiming for longer than a year of working on this, especially since 129 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,839 most towns, at least the ones we checked with, had it up and running between six 130 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,360 months and a year. So, I would I would say hopefully by June 30, I'll check 131 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,880 with the building official and I'll let you know if it seems to be longer than 132 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:26,399 that, but I don't think so. >> Okay. Any other questions from the 133 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:32,640 council? Thank you, Amanda. >> Um, okay. Hearing none, then we need to 134 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:36,160 approve this uh department. Um, so I'll accept a motion for 315613. 135 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,680 » Motion approved >> made by Al. 136 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:41,360 » Second. >> Second by Jack. Any further discussion 137 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:44,720 on that hearing? None. All those in favor, 138 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:52,080 please indicate by saying I. I. >> I. Opposed. Abstension. Motion carries. 139 00:09:47,839 --> 00:09:55,120 Um, next we'll move on to item 12, which is right. 12. Sharon. 140 00:09:54,080 --> 00:10:00,240 » Yes. >> Donations and dues. So, um, Ann, if you 141 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:05,680 want to come up on up to the table, Sharon, before Ann starts, did we, my 142 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,920 notes aren't clear. Did we approve anything for the cultural commission or 143 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,839 were we waiting for today to approve anything? 144 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,120 » We were waiting, we kind of went back and forth because I think we were coming 145 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:21,760 two fiscal years. >> Yep. Okay, great. So, I'm I think I have 146 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:26,240 an Amanda and I talked about this. We're having Ann talk about 147 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,800 next year now and then at the regular meeting she's asking for an 148 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,880 appropriation for this fiscal year which will be part of the regular meeting. 149 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,440 Right. >> That's correct. 150 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:41,760 » Okay. So, uh Ann, go ahead. >> Thank you. And Grao, 70 strand circle. 151 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:47,040 It's good to be with you here again. Um just recently here, but because one of 152 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:52,800 your commissioners was not available, um I have handed out the packets again 153 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:58,800 tonight. um that have been changed only in the respect of uh one misspelling and 154 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:03,200 a couple of dates where my finger just automatically went to 2025 as opposed to 155 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:08,880 2026. So that's the only change in the packet 156 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:13,440 that I have just um given you earlier. Um and so you know what's in 157 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:18,480 that packet and and we really do not have to uh I gave it to Brian a little 158 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:23,680 bit ahead of time. has probably had a a moment to review. Uh but obviously at 159 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:29,680 the end of a little bit of a presentation here again this evening 160 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:35,360 just to uh clarify the two different buckets um that we're talking about 161 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:41,680 financially. Um I won't go over the same material that is in the packet. And 162 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:50,320 tonight uh for this meeting we are uh asking for uh the the next fiscal budget 163 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:56,240 2026 27 to include two items. One is funding for a secretary for CCDC's 164 00:11:53,200 --> 00:12:03,120 monthly meetings and the other is for the $1,500 to use in uh further 165 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:08,079 marketing and events. U and I use the word further marketing 166 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:13,519 uh because that will become clearer at the 7 o'clock meeting. 167 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:20,320 CCD was pleased to present the recent budget workshop on 35 and the contents 168 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:25,360 basically remains unchanged but to remind regarding the highlights of the 169 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:31,200 request for that for this hearing. CCD is unlike communities uh I mean 170 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:36,959 committees in that it is created by ordinance. The coming state walkthrough 171 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:44,079 at the end of April is the final step in approval for CCD's application, CCDC's 172 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:49,440 application, and part of their review is learning about town support as well as 173 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:54,160 volunteer. CCD will continue to provide marketing 174 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:59,440 and events that support visitor engagement and tourism as well as 175 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:03,360 community-based programming. The specific events are still under 176 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:08,320 consideration because we have not received full approval. 177 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:14,560 CCD through volunteer efforts the past three years has provided provided the 178 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:19,200 town with a robust application to state which can be used in the future to 179 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:26,959 further awareness of the rich heritage and cultural assets 180 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:31,440 of Cromwell and a town map featuring all the cultural assets. 181 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:36,240 I want to app tell you all that I appreciate the town council and the town 182 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:42,399 manager and Sharon for getting some of my questions answered in the in and 183 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:51,279 Amanda um in the ensuing days uh since we first brought this to your attention 184 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:56,720 and we do look forward to approval so that we can share with the state that 185 00:13:53,519 --> 00:14:01,600 the town does foster tourism and culture. 186 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:05,120 Great. Um, so just really quick for the funding for a secretary Sharon, what 187 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:12,720 would be the level you recommend? >> We're going to recommend that um the 188 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:20,639 budget be approved for 2500,000 for the 189 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:29,440 recording clerk and 1500 for uh departmental usage or commission usage. 190 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,440 » So 12 meetings at 75 would be 9 191 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:47,800 total 2500. >> Okay. Any questions for Ann about uh the 192 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,800 request for next year? 193 00:14:50,959 --> 00:15:01,199 » Okay. Um, so I'll take a motion first to approve the 2500 for fiscal year 2026 194 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:08,160 2027, a thousand of which to be earmarked for uh, recording secretary 195 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,000 and the 1,500 to be used for um, commission expenses. 196 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:12,720 » So move. >> Second 197 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:16,720 » made by an second by Brian and >> Oh, sorry Paula. I'm looking at Ann 198 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:21,360 talking to Paula. >> Made by Paula, seconded by Brian. Any 199 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,240 further discussion on that hearing? None. All those in favor, please 200 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,720 indicate by saying I. >> I. 201 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:29,839 » Opposed. Abstension motion carries. Okay. And so now, what is the new total 202 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,839 for this department? >> 64,0006. 203 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,560 » Okay. Um >> I remember the dollar of that. 204 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:46,360 » Um so can I have a motion to approve for 205 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:46,360 donation and dues $64,666? 206 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,920 » So moved. >> Made by Paula. seconded by Jack. Any 207 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,560 further discussion on that hearing? None. All those in favor, please 208 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,000 indicate by saying I. >> I. 209 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:02,240 » I. Opposed. Abstension. Motion carries. Okay. 210 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:07,120 » Thank you. We'll see you in 45 minutes. Um, okay. So now, Sharon, are there any 211 00:16:05,839 --> 00:16:10,079 other departments that we need to revisit? 212 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:24,800 Okay. And then what does um what does that bring our final what do we need to 213 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,240 vote on next? The final line item number and what page should we go do for that? 214 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 » Yep. 215 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:42,759 Got it. 216 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:57,360 » Okay. Um, we'll go on a brief recess until you're ready. So that way you're 217 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,680 not doing it under pressure. >> Maintenance. 218 00:16:57,839 --> 00:17:03,600 » Oh, the air jets for the building maintenance. Do we need to have a vote? 219 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:07,600 I know we asked for supplemental uh information on that. Did we 220 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,919 » better bids? better bids. But did we approve that pending the better bids? 221 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:14,640 » No. >> Or did we hold that capital item open? 222 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,000 » Airs. >> Yeah. For the building maintenance. Uh, 223 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,679 was it building maintenance or >> auto? It was the 224 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:23,360 » highway department. >> Highway department. 225 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,919 » Yeah. Vehicle maintenance. >> Vehicle maintenance. 226 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:33,200 » No, no, no. Mac and >> Yeah. He can't. He informed me he can't 227 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:40,120 get those prices because he doesn't belong. 228 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:40,120 and they refused to come out. 229 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:48,440 » But I guess my question was, did we approve it and then said we would we 230 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:48,440 need to go back? 231 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,559 » Yeah, >> thank you for the reminder, Al. 232 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:57,840 » $3,600. >> Yeah, for those of you watching at home, 233 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 there was a request for vehicle maintenance for an airjet. Is that what 234 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:04,080 it's called? >> Air jets. 235 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:10,679 » For an airjacks, sorry. And um there wasn't a quote accompanying it. So we 236 00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:10,679 had asked for more information and 237 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:19,400 » we gave you a backup. >> Yeah. And then we I don't know. The 238 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,400 question is do we vote on it ever? 239 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:32,360 » But they didn't vote on >> those table 31. 240 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:37,960 if we voted on it or not. 241 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:44,000 » Yeah. Yeah. Tab 31 in our budget book. >> Oh, 242 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:49,039 » and I have it as zero. I have a note saying zero until backup, but that 243 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:53,840 doesn't necessarily mean that we we I don't know how we voted. I don't have 244 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:57,080 that minute the minutes. Go hunt. 245 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:06,600 » Yeah, it was the first night. Second night. Second night. 246 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:13,120 » No. Came back up Wednesday. >> Yeah. 247 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:19,480 » Thursday. >> But I thought we did, but I was asked to 248 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,480 look into 249 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:22,679 » 3500. 250 00:19:25,919 --> 00:19:31,760 » Based on what he was asking, those were handed out. 251 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,240 See, he 252 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,960 » knows that he's asking for these. 253 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,679 » Those are backup for your 254 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:12,480 Yeah, I can only go by I I did specifically have a discussion with him 255 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:16,039 and he informs me Snap-on is the only one that comes around. 256 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,280 » I'm not doubting that you were in business. Folks, we're going to go on a 257 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,960 a brief recess while we just try to determine whether or not that needs to 258 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:34,880 be voted on. Um, for those watching at home, we're on page or tab 31 of our 259 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:41,080 budget book. Just looking at that airjacks. Um, we'll we'll be adjourned 260 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,080 for a moment. 261 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:53,080 » If it does, then you're going to vote on the bottom number. 262 00:21:53,520 --> 00:22:00,400 Okay, we think we we made So, I'm going to call us back into order 624 after a 263 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,520 brief recess. Um, I think the clerk is indicating that we made a motion on the 264 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:09,440 final line item number, but we were waiting for more backup, and we may we 265 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:13,520 reserve the right to revisit it. um if if the backup wasn't and if the backup 266 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:19,000 wasn't sufficient. So Sharon, do you have as the line item approved for 267 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:19,000 vehicle maintenance 374716? 268 00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:25,400 » Nope, you're good. 269 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:32,440 » Okay, then we approve the entire We approved the entire one. 270 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,440 Okay. 271 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,760 » Yeah. If nothing changes, it should be the same. 272 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,760 » Change. Yeah. 273 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,400 » Okay. Go ahead and give it to us. 274 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:03,280 » Okay. And I'm not touching the overtime this year, Sharon. So, um, can I have a 275 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:08,400 motion for to approve the public works budget 5,396 694? 276 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:11,520 » Motion moved by Brian, second by Jack. Any further discussion on that? Hearing 277 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,080 none, all those in favor, please indicate by saying I. 278 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:20,640 » I oppose. Abstension motion carries. Um, now, uh, madame finance director, are 279 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:24,720 there any other items? Um, all righty. So, going to the general budget, town 280 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,919 council approved budget. What is the final number? Is it the total G general 281 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:35,360 budget or is it the government budget without CNR? What how do we approve it? 282 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:40,120 » Uh you approve the approve the general service. 283 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:46,280 » Okay. So they have to approve and then the debt service. 284 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,039 » Is that included in the final number? >> Yes. 285 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:55,760 » Okay. So what's the number for the motion? 286 00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:59,440 » 23 million. 783 287 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,679 450. >> Can you give that one one more time 288 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:07,280 please? >> 23 million 783 289 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,600 450 >> 50 or 60 290 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,159 » 50. >> Thank you 291 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,960 23 783 450. 292 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:28,640 So, we cut So, we we cut from the based off the town manager's recommendation 293 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:34,400 61,756 after all of that. Okay, good job, Tony. 294 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:40,320 Uh, yeah. Wasn't much for us to trim then. Um, okay. So, I'll accept a motion 295 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:44,520 to approve the recommended total general government budget of 23,783,450. 296 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:51,840 » So, move second. >> Motion made by Jack, second by Al. Any 297 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,960 further discussion on that hearing? None. All those in favor, please 298 00:24:53,200 --> 00:25:00,480 indicate by saying I. >> I. Opposed. Abstension. Motion carries. 299 00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:04,559 Is there any other bit? >> Okay. Go ahead. 300 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:09,480 » The debt service. >> Okay. 301 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:09,480 » 3 million 6416. 302 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,840 » One more time. I'm sorry. >> 3 million 6416. 303 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:26,159 » Got it. Um, and out of curiosity, when we get with the state reimbursement for 304 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,200 the for the building fund, um, we're going where we've applied to the state 305 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,240 to get our reimbursement check. Does that money go to pay down the debt or 306 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:36,159 where does that money go? Does it go? >> It goes in the school building fund. 307 00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:37,520 » Okay. And then what is where does it go from? 308 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,320 » We close the fund. >> Yeah. 309 00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:43,360 » It will be the portion for the town will be less because that money will be in 310 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:48,120 there. >> You know how we were on the hook for the 311 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,120 29. 312 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:55,679 Yes. So when I close the fund, that will come out of our fund balance. 313 00:25:53,120 --> 00:26:00,159 » Okay. And that's a special fund, right? >> Yes, it's a special fund and it is in um 314 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:04,960 it was separated out in your audit report this year. 315 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:08,240 » Okay. And with regards to that debt, so once that's settled out, if there's 316 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,080 residual money in that, let's say the project had a surplus or you know, I 317 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:15,520 know the contingencies weren't all met, does that money once that account is 318 00:26:13,919 --> 00:26:19,360 closed, does that go to pay down the debt or debt service or 319 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:26,000 » to the general fund which pays the debt? >> Okay, I gotcha. And if you know what is 320 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:30,960 the how how much how much more outstanding items are there before we 321 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:33,679 can know if we're under on that? the school what they spent so far. 322 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:40,720 » Okay. >> Uh so so far between the school and the 323 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:43,720 central offices they spent 64 million 9374. 324 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,400 » Okay. >> If you do that percentage it's 90% of 325 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,679 their appropriations. >> Okay. 326 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:59,039 » But I haven't the bills for the solar panels have not come through. 327 00:26:56,159 --> 00:27:03,840 » Okay. Do we know what the reimbursement will be from the state? 328 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:07,039 » No, because we sent in our report and I'm not sure what the unreimburables 329 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:12,159 are. >> Um, we calculated what was it? I don't 330 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:17,400 have the percentages in my report. 331 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,400 » Okay. 332 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:26,080 » Sure. So, let's while while let's finish the debt and then we can we can follow 333 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:29,799 up on that at the seven. Um, so the total debt $3,641,063. 334 00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:35,679 » Yes. >> Do I have a motion for on the debt? 335 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,039 » Jack. >> Do I have a second? 336 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,480 » Second by Ann. Any further discussion on that hearing? None. All those in favor, 337 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,880 please indicate by saying I. >> I. Opposed. Abstension. Motion carries. 338 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:49,760 Uh, and then final, we need to do the third final number. 339 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,000 » Total general fund. >> Okay. Go ahead. What is the total 340 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:55,120 general fund? >> 27 million. 341 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:59,520 » Yep. 513. 342 00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:02,520 » Okay. Can I have a motion for 27,425,513? 343 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,120 » 2742432. 344 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:18,000 » Oh, four. >> Okay. 27424 513. 345 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,080 » Yeah. >> Approved. 346 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,600 » Okay. Motion made by Jack. Do I have a second? 347 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,600 » Second. >> Uh second by Paula. Any further 348 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:28,000 discussion on that hearing? None. All those in favor, please indicate by 349 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:31,039 saying I. >> I. 350 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:34,080 » I. Opposed. Abstension. Motion carries. So, what percentage of an increase is 351 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,880 that total for the >> I'm just going to give you the general 352 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,200 government, not debt service. >> Yep. 353 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,799 » 3.87. >> Okay. 3.87%. 354 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:45,520 Increase. >> Yes. 355 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,600 » That's not awful. I mean, >> how does that uh what does that equate 356 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:53,679 to for males? >> Do you happen to have that? Do you know? 357 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:55,679 No. Okay. >> What does it equate to? What's the 358 00:28:55,279 --> 00:29:02,960 question? >> The mill rate. 359 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:07,600 » I know fire came in at what did they 22 I think something like that. I read 360 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:10,760 it but it came in really if I retain I think it was 361 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,960 » until the rate is I can't do the calculation. 362 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:24,120 » What's the what's the delta increase? It's 930 363 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,120 something thousand 364 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:28,559 » 800 >> 86 365 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,840 » 86 >> 972 366 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:39,200 » and if if the mill rate was based off of our gross assessed uh property and all 367 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,159 that if the mill rate what's a one mil rate increase equal like as far just 368 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:48,039 based off of the assessed >> value your assessment assessment 369 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:53,480 » so one like >> so 370 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:04,240 » yeah I think the fire came in at what point too 371 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,240 » and board of I don't know what board of ed did last night I didn't listen to the 372 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,840 end of it >> yet 373 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,320 you know what can I get back to you on that moment 374 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:20,080 » sure sure that's fine um okay any other budget item before us any other budget 375 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:25,840 item for us hearing. None. I'll take a motion to adjurnn until 6:50 for our 376 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:30,000 sewer and uh other public hearing that we have at that time. Do I have a motion 377 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:34,159 to adjurnn? >> Made by Al, seconded by Paula. Any 378 00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:37,760 further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor, please indicate by 379 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:44,440 saying I. I. Opposed. Abstension. Motion carries. Okay. We'll be back in about 17 380 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,440 minutes for a town meeting, folks.