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Uh, good morning everybody. It's
Wednesday, August 19th at 9:00 a.m.

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Justin, would you lead us in the pledge
of allegiance?

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I
>> allegiance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic
for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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» All right. Uh, any public comment before
we get started?

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There we go. Commissioners, for the
record, Justin Alderman, managing editor

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at the Primeville Review. Um, just
because this has been a matter I know

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you guys have spoke um publicly during
meetings on, I felt it was uh um

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appropriate to at least raise this
question. um during a meeting. Uh and

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since you guys have a late schedule, I
figured you could spare a couple

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minutes. Um but I did just want to ask
if the commissioners uh would want to

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address ongoing concerns regarding your
efforts um to seek information on some

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controversy involving uh the vector
control district. Um obviously it's a

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supple special district but as I think
we know and has been the continuing uh

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reality since uh you started your
efforts in December uh you do have

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oversight authority and uh bear I I
imagine some responsibility in uh the

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affairs of the vector control district.
Um, we our publication became aware that

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your county manager once again sent a
letter on August 7th to the vector

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control district after it again for
apparently the third time has ignored

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requests um from the board of
commissioners. Um, so I just didn't know

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and wanted to see if you uh wanted to
provide us and and the public maybe just

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your general thoughts and comments on
where we're at the process and and the

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fact that you it seems shocking. Not
only are we having difficulties getting

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information and records and repeatedly
having to petition the district attorney

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for records, uh, but it's shocking that
a board of county commissioners over 8

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months has basically gotten nothing
under this public body that you have

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oversight and and again bear some of
that responsibility. So, we felt it is

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appropriate to make sure you had an
opportunity to provide some comment and

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maybe share your current position and
feelings uh with the public. Thank you.

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» Sure. Uh, Will and I talked uh
yesterday. Um, can we speak about next

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week?
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» So, I think uh I I asked Will to put
something on the agenda for next week to

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uh talk to the rest of the board about
uh I think it's time to request a third

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party go in to uh just do a deep dive in
all their stuff. Uh I think I've been

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pretty clear throughout the process. I
think for the meat of their job of

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getting rid of
um mosquitoes, they do a really well

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really good job, but they have a lot of
work to do on the nuts and bolts of the

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organization and public records and and
you know interacting with different

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government and the press and public and
different people. And so I think we've

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given them ample chances to
independently work on that. And I'd like

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to see uh a third party go in there and
uh just do a deep dive and and help them

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to understand the processes that they're
missing.

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» Commissioner Herick, did you have any
>> I just agree. I agree with Seth, I

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guess. So I'm not going to be redundant,
but yes.

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» Thank you.

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» Did you have a question?
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» you got to come to the mic and tell your
name and rank and serial number. right

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now. It's
>> how old I am.

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» No, I mean,
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» We don't need to know. We don't need to
know you're 25 years old.

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» Thank you very much. 45, actually. Um,
hi, I'm uh Lori and Maximum and I live

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up at Iron Horse. Um, I just had a
question about um I was driving to work

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yesterday morning and they still have
that elk crossing sign there. And a

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couple weeks ago I was driving into work
and um where that new brick building is

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that the new solar farm has, they've
just built that new kind of brick

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building there on the left. It was
shortly past that, maybe, you know,

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eighth of a mile or so, there was a
group of elk, um, kind of back on the

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left hand side of the road. I don't
know, maybe five, six, seven of them.

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And it it got me thinking now, is this
going to be their where they think

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they're crossing now? I just have never
really gotten an answer on where are the

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elks crossing now? They obviously
haven't disappeared, but I mean they

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kind of have, but was a new route
created for them or or what's going on

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with them?
So, back oh gosh, I don't know how many

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years before you, Will, they tried to do
a wildlife plan in Crook County and it

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got all the way up to the finality of it
and unfortunately OD uh FNW vetoed it.

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So, we have a very antiquated
wildlife map for our county and that is

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one of the things that they're trying to
do with this goal five and they're

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having the planning meetings and trying
to update. That is one of the things

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they're trying to do is to get that
wildlife done. So yes, there were elk

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that went through where the elk sign is
that we did take into consideration with

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the solar farms migration that we knew
of. But again, without anything firmly

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written down, it's pretty hard to just
say, hey, elk go through there. So that

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is one of the reasons that goal five is
very dearly needed and why we're going

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to be working on it and that will be a
really important aspect of it. Um,

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» but they don't know. They don't read
signs. They go where they want. And you

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also have
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that are driving. I've seen that sign
for 20 years. And now it's like, well,

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why is it even there, you know?
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had fires. So now you're going to see a
totally different migration pattern just

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because that Yeah. That this is way
before the fires began that this has

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been going on. Um, so what needs to
happen to bring to attention that with

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this next solar farm that's getting
ready to go up? I mean, now, you know,

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there's a group of elk there now. Are
they thinking, well, maybe this is where

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we'll go? Well, no, now we're going to
wipe that one out for him, too. I mean,

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who's taking into consideration?
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consideration in the staff report and
ODF andW should have weighed in on it.

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So, if that has been passed and it's
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that staff report, that should all have
been taken into consideration. I can't

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tell you off the cuff what what was
done, but yeah.

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» Right. Right. So, I guess bottom line,
they're just on their own kind of. I

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mean, there's not a whole lot we can't
obviously about the solar farms. So, and

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bring their lives back. Well, not really
because that was part So when you do a

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staff report and you do an application,
you have all the various agencies weigh

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in and ODFNW would have been an
important aspect of that because they

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would have taken into that
consideration. There is a problem in the

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fact that we didn't solidify that
wildlife map. I'm not going to say there

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isn't, but that should have been. And so
if we looked up that solar farm, we

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looked up that staff report, that would
have all been taken care of and there

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would have been a mitigation. Some of
the mitigation that was done on some of

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the solar farms was money that went to
Aspen Valley Ranch that preserved

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property and developed water for mu
deer. I know that was part of it. Some

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of the mitigation was with the
prongghorn. We did ramps so if they were

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in the solar farm, they would be able to
escape. I can't tell you all the

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different mitigations, but each solar
farm was taken separately and was done

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and it was done under the advice of
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» Okay.
So, it's done. There's nothing any

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» I'd have to look up the staff report to
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approved, it was taken into
consideration. And yes, there was a

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mitigation.
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was all going on. Where's all the animal
lovers out there? I mean, were there to

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me this is like a big red, wow, this is
huge. Were there not people out there

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that were questioning?
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problems with the process, right? Uh
people don't really get excited until

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after they see it go up because I would
have loved to have the input that I've

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gotten from the community since in
meetings when the decisions were being

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made and and fortunately or
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that's how the Oregon lands use process
works. Once you have an approval, you

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have an approval, which I I see value to
a lot of things in that because you need

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to have certainty in in all aspects of
land use, not just solar, but

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whatever you're doing, if you're
building a house and then you pour a,

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you know, a foundation and then they
come back, well, I don't want a house

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here. And you go, well, you know, I've
already paid for a contractor to do all

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this. So, you need to have certainty,
but it's very difficult. And I I think

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we work very hard to get as many people
here as possible to input, but unless

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people come and talk about their issues,
it's it's very difficult for us as

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elected officials to just say,
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of that process. And and during that
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it.
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» Nobody showed up. Zero people in the
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» Were you advertising on the front page
of the newspaper? And we were we maybe

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not the front page, but we were we were
making it very clear that these things

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were going on.
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» On a on a consistent basis. And we have
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What do you think?
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thousand? Maybe thousand.
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look, it will say there's a planning
commission meeting coming up. I I get

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it. I get what you're saying. and we do
notify the property owners and we do

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take into consideration large parcels
and so we go above the state law to get

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those people but in 2019 nobody cared
nobody showed up you did that and I

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always say it wrong that ESSE is that it
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» analysis
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social there was no one here so we did
we did we did the best that we could

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» with what we had because there's boxes
to check and again on wildlife. Yes,

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that was taken into consideration and
ODFNW was present and we did what we

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could do
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to that's the other thing is we aren't
allowed to really go outside of I guess

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will could probably talk better to this
but I don't want to misspeak but you

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know there's a process in land use
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out that you have to follow
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» yeah,
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a reason. You have to have reason for
pro and reason for negative. And so

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again, if just because I say I don't
like them is not that's not it's what's

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presented to you and what's presented to
you if it checks the box and it matches

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all that and it matches the and you do
the mitigation that you can you are you

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have to go through otherwise what
happens is it's appealed and it goes to

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luba and it would be deni or it would be
passed through you would be because you

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just can't do that. This isn't a
personality contest. This is a pres

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presentation of business facts
basically,

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» right? Was there um so there wasn't a
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got involved?
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» Nobody.
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» Okay. Well, to me that means that gets
to the point that things need to get on

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the newspaper. I'm sorry. I know that
everyone's on the internet, but a lot of

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people aren't. I grab the newspaper
every single week. And um and I'm not,

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you know, there's a lot of people, a lot
of older people that live in this

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community
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internet thing. I'm too old for it and
I'm not going to start it now. And um so

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I just, you know, that's kind of
unfortunate that that happened because I

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I just don't think that the
communication could have been done a

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little bit differently to grab some
attention from others. So um that's my

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comment. Are there any other pending um
permits out there for more solar farms

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that you guys are looking at or that
you're aware of?

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» Nothing that I'm aware of that is on the
board's agenda. I'd need to double check

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with our community development
department to see if you have anything.

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» Yeah, I'd just be curious.
>> Now, are you on the planning commission

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agenda, too? Because there's do we send
out the planning to both or you should

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be getting those two. So, they should be
coming to your emails of upcoming things

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on the planning.
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» Um, is that the city of Prineville?
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» Oh. Oh. Oh, okay. I wasn't aware that
there were two different I go to the

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city of Prineville
planning,

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» but that's only things that are within
city limits. When you're talking outside

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limit, you're talking Crook County
Planning Commission.

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» Okay.
>> That's a different body.

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» Okay. And they have meetings.
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the news. It is back in the classified.
It'll say what's going on. If you look

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if you start looking, you're going to
start seeing it

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» and and yes, it's a different entity,
but if you if if they're sent out, I I

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mean, I was a planning commissioner, so
obviously I got them, but yeah, they

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have
>> check and make sure. Can you double

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check and make sure?
>> I get I get all your stuff.

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» Yeah.
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planning side. It sounds like that's
kind of where I need to maybe

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» that's more
being proactive.

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» Yes, exactly.
>> Instead of reactive.

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» That is your that would be your your
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city limit line.
>> That's great. Thank you. That is great

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information. I appreciate it.
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coming every day.
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» All right. Anybody online from the
public that would like to public

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publicly input

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By the way, Commissioner, I have to also
remind people how they get unmuted.

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» We have to unmute them.
>> Well, I know, but when you say anybody

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wants to comment, I don't think people
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if you're mobile.
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» I agree with you.
>> Is so should we have them do we have

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them raise a hand? Raise your hand
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» or comment in the chat.
>> You have two options.

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Okay, great. Um, we will move on to the
consent agenda.

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» Okay, I make a motion to approve the
consent agenda as presented.

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» I second.
>> Okay.

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» Any discussion?
>> No. Everything is clear and that

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everyone should understand the order
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of the distribution of the funds. So,
no, no discussion.

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» prophet I
>> discussion

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» what
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» I don't think there is any discussion
that's good [laughter]

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» I mean should I just say it
>> say discussion

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» discussion none scheduled
>> none [laughter]

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discuss okay
>> manager's report this one thank you

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» and I really don't have anything at all.
I guess I mean the only thing I guess I

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do have is no appointed me to be a
second vice president on the payments

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for public lands. So evidently I must
have done a good job for SRS and PILT.

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So there you go.
>> Perfect. Uh on September or sorry August

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27th from 2 to 4 p.m. uh Congressman
Cliff Ben will be in town talking about

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uh firefighting techniques, prevention
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and resources for that recovery. Um, and
so hopefully we can get as many people

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there that have been uh had losses and
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prevention like managing our forests and
different things so that he can take

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that back to Washington DC and uh you
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that stuff
>> and it will be at Barnes.

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» Thank you. Barnes Elementary.

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uh that wraps up the commissioner
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oh. Uh
have you joined county college yet?

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» Yeah.
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college uh is starting next two weeks
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And we're really excited. We have some
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but we could always use more if there's
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would be interested and please share it
with friends and neighbors and we'd like

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to really get as many people there as
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» Feel like a second.
>> Yes.

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» Yeah, we had to tweak it because we had
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lines. I guess that'd be another good
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» It was the third. It got bounced back to
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» Okay.
>> If you miss one, you just won't be able

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to become the uh uh you know,
validictorian.

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» But besides that, you're fine.
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» Is it a Zoom? Can you zoom into
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» We don't have Zoom opportunity.
>> That's okay.

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It's from It's It's me and Will talking.
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you should be
>> And I just real That's my daughter's

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birthday. [clears throat]
>> Well, it's just me talking.

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» Might just be. [laughter]
>> So, see, even Will's going to be

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» Yeah. Me and Brianna will take care of
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» Yeah. And so, you'll have all the
information. You can go back. Okay.

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» The county board of commissioners.

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» The county board of commissioners will
now meet in executive session under OS

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1926602E
to conduct deliberations purchase

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designated by the governing body to
negotiate real property transactions.

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Representatives of the news media
designated staff shall be allowed to

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attend the executive session. All the
members of the audience are asked to

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leave the representatives of the news
media specifically directed none

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reported on any deliberations during the
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general sub the sessions previously
announced. No decision may be made in

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executive session. At the end of the
executive session, return to open

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session. Welcome the audience back into
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Commissioners will now leave executive
session under RS1926602E

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[clears throat] to conduct deliberations
with persons designated by the governing

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body to negotiate real property
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news media and designated staff were
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All other me all other members of the
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Representatives of the news media
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any deliberations during the executive
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subject of the session as previously
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executive session. We will we have now
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audience back into the room.

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» [clears throat]

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» Commissioners, what I think I heard in
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decisions to be made today. Uh we'll
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back for future deliberations.
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» sounds good.
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» motion to adjurnn.
>> Motion to adjourn.

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» I make a motion to adjurnn.
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» Really screws up my cadence when there's
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doesn't it kind of almost doesn't seem
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five of us. So there you go.
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» all those in fa or any discussion?
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» All those in favor I Okay.