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It's Wednesday, September 2nd, at 9 a.m., what would you leave us in the pleasurable regions?

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The legal supply of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands when

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ladies shun our God and into the assault with the liberty and justice for all.

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And this morning we have Chris Cookston from Prime Vogue Community Church for our morning prayer.

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It come on up, will we pass on the mic?

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I just have to say this, this looks very familiar, everyone's in the back.

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Let's put together and my friend this morning just reminded me of the hopefulness that

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we have of rain.

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So let's ask the Lord to bring rain to our community as well.

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Our gracious Father in heaven, you alone are God.

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You alone are all powerful.

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You alone are holy.

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We thank you for sending your only begotten son, the Lord Jesus, into this world to rescue

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us from our sins and from ourselves.

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We thank you so much for Crick County.

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I thank you for every individual who is here today.

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We thank you for our County Manager and these commissioners and the others who labor diligently

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to serve the community.

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I thank you for every citizen here.

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They care enough to be here, and I pray that you give us all wisdom this morning for this meeting.

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We pray, Father, that you would protect and make just goodness in the lives of all of our first responders,

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Prando PD, Craig County Sheriff's Department, Craig County Fire.

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And Father, lastly, we ask that you bring rain.

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We praise you for stopping the fires, and we pray that you bring us a very, very good rain.

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We need it Lord. And so we look to you the God of creation and we ask Father that you would bless us this day in Jesus's name. Amen

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Like there's a couple seats back there if you want to follow the herd

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You got to stand out there

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All right

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We'll kick it off with public comment anybody in the crowd have any public comment

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So I would like to bring up that we are going to be talking about the horse racing thing and if we could have that public comment go with that section.

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Sure, so you're just saying you would like.

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I think there's people that would like to speak about it and I would like to have them speak during that period of time.

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That's okay with you.

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Yeah, Mr. Chair.

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Yeah.

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Otherwise, I'll kick you.

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No, I won't.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Anybody online?

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Have anything they want to weigh in on?

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Okay.

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We'll move on to our consent agenda.

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Is there any.

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Can you entertain a motion?

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I make a motion to accept the consent agenda as presented.

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No second.

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Any discussion?

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No discussion.

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All those in favor?

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I'm Ray Kaye.

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Properly.

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Morning, aye.

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All right.

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Kim, you're up.

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Very exciting month.

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I have that to read.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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For the record, Kim Veils, Library Manager.

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This month we'd like to have a proclamation for library card sign-up month.

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With a library card, you can do more than checkout books.

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from free classes and job resources to homework help streaming media and cultural events.

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Today's libraries connect communities to information, inspiration, and each other.

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An initiative of the American Library Association.

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Library Card Sign-up Month has been held each September since 1987 to mark the beginning of the school year.

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Combat illiteracy and encourage communities everywhere to explore all the offerings

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that having a library card unlocks.

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Today, thousands of public libraries and schools nationwide

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participate in the month-long celebration each fall.

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This year's theme, a library card hits all the right notes

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as a reminder that libraries offer something for everyone,

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no matter your age, background, or goals.

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Whether you're checking out a classic story

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or trying something new, finding harmony at the library's programs,

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finding your focus in a study room

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or vibing out Nicosi Nook or composing your future with new skills, there's a front row

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seat at the library for you and your library card is the ticket.

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So we'd like to ask that you make September National Library Card Sign-up Month here

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in Crick County.

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Sounds like a great idea.

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I will now read a proclamation declaring September 2026 to be Library Card Sign-up Month,

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Whereas libraries are foundational to education, imagination, and opportunity offering everything

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from early literacy programs to digital tools that support lifelong learning and personal

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growth.

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Whereas libraries welcome all people serving as inclusive and accessible community hubs that

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Connect individuals across cultures, generations, and experiences, whereas libraries curate collections and design programs that reflect the diversity of the population they serve ensuring equitable access to information technology and culture for all.

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whereas libraries help individuals navigate life challenges by providing trusted information,

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digital access, job search, support, and connections to essential services, whereas libraries contribute

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to a thriving local economy by equipping job seekers, entrepreneurs, students, and creators with

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tools and trainings to succeed, whereas in times of both crisis and calm libraries and their staff

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remain steadfast in supporting and strengthening their communities, whereas library resources help households save money, reduce waste, and make sustainable choices all through the simple power of shared public good.

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Whereas a library card offers a front row seat to everything the library offers from books to technology to lifelong learning and imagination.

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where as libraries, librarians, and library workers across the county

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country are joining together to celebrate library card sign-up month

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under the theme, a library card hits all the right notes.

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Now therefore, be it resolved that the Crook County Board of Commissioners

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does hereby proclaim September 2026 as library card sign-up month in Crook County

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We encourage all residents to be sharp and sign up for the library card.

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You come on down.

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We have a swag bag that you can get if you get a library card.

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We also have-

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What if I already have one?

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Can I just show my card and get the swag bag?

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Yes.

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I'll let you.

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And then we have a big, I was going to bring it, a big library card that you're going to

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get your picture taken with and we're trying to reach a goal of 125 sign-ups.

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How many current library card holders do you have? Do you know that kid?

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Oh boy. Yes.

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Okay. I want to say 3,500.

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Wow. Strong. We'd like to get a lot more though.

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And for the last several days I have been at the library quite a bit and I want to

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thank the library not just for their books, but for your compassion and your helping or citizens

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and everything that you do. And also even the atmosphere there. It's just a very nice place to be.

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Thank you. I want to try and and I want to thank you for I know you did a special project for someone

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for me and that was very beyond the call of duty. Thank you. You're welcome. We do something like that

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all the time. Thank you. All right. Do we need emotion? I guess to adopt

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this, uh, this, uh, proclamation? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Are you ready, Brian? I'm ready.

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Do you want to make it or not? I think I think you need to make the proclamation. Oh, I make a motion to

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approve the proclamation declaring September 2026 to be library card month sign up.

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All those, all those in favor?

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No, we're okay.

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Prof. Dye, learning, aye.

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Thank you very much.

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All right, Susie.

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Well, I'm Mona.

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What would you say?

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I'm not quite sure why I'm presented because.

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Well, she's not, you're not,

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Mona, the presenter.

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You're the requester.

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Yes.

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Oh, yeah.

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Your number two, Mona.

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Well, really number one.

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Yes, you're all number one.

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Good

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morning.

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Morning.

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I'm really out of my wheelhouse, so here we go.

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I'm here to represent the 25th anniversary of the 9-11 Memorial

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display that my husband and I, excuse me,

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that we put up every year here in prime bill.

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This is actually our 50 year that we're doing this.

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It's the third year that we'll have it here at the town

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Plaza and on the courthouse lawn.

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First of all, I'd like to thank, or mention, best

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short here of Ladybug Creations in Lakeview every year. She makes shirts for us so we can

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wear it during the display. So she does a really nice dog. We appreciate that.

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I should

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It's a community opportunity to remember, honor,

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and reflect, especially this year,

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being the 25th anniversary.

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It's so important that we don't forget

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about what happened to us on our land

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and those lives that were lost because of it.

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We honor, remember, those who lost their lives

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on September 11th, 2001.

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one, we recognize the first responders and military personnel who served in the aftermath.

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We reflect on the events that changed our nation literally, and we bring our community

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together in remembrance.

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A side note that one of the pleasures and blessings that we get is listening to people's

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stories.

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They're very personal. Everybody knows exactly where they were that day and what

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they were doing and what they experienced. It doesn't matter if you were in our country

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or not, if you're American, you felt it. So we had two firefighters from New York that were

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firefighters then and now. And they came last year. They were here visiting

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friends. It probably took them over an hour to go through our display. It was so

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emotionally draining for them, but they were so glad to be a part of it and to

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see that there's somebody out there doing what we do. So we were all in tears. It

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It was nice though, it was very emotional.

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The event information, like I said, it's at the town plaza right beside this building,

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and when we place 2,977 flags in the courthouse lawn, which you've graciously allowed us to

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do, we appreciate that.

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We illuminate everything so that at night it's all lit up and it's quite beautiful at night.

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You have the opportunity to come by then, it's worth seeing.

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It's throughout the event, like I said, it's 24 hours a day.

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We have night security, family members, and Roland and I are there every day.

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So it's interesting to watch the cars drive by and then slow down and then turn around and park

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and just to even take pictures, especially of the flags and our beautiful courthouse, it's quite impressive.

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We'll begin setting up Thursday, the 10th, approximately 8 o'clock, and we have civic organizations help us with that,

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and we're very pleased about that.

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We don't open that up generally to the public to help because it's our personal property,

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and so we like to make sure that it's well taken care of at the time.

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We will be tearing down the event on Sunday the 13th at 3pm

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and it usually takes us four to five hours to tear everything down

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and we have the same or different civic organizations that help us with that.

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The NJROTC is really awesome to come and help with that tear down.

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And we really appreciate them.

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This whole thing is a community effort.

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Obviously, we have your blessing from the Board of Commissioners.

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The City of Primeville, Primeville Police Department,

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Kirk County Sheriff's Office, Kirk County Fire and Rescue,

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Kirk County Search and Rescue,

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you, local civic organizations and community volunteers.

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The police and fire, police fire and sheriff's office graciously bring over a vehicle. At least for 9-11, they keep them up all day long. The fire department comes over for about an hour due to their schedules. So we appreciate that.

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It helps draw attention.

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When we're going 25 years later, the 25th anniversary memorial display is an opportunity for

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our community to pause, reflect, and honor the lives and sacrifices connected with 9-11.

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This originally was designed, created, and made by Chuck Poe out of Lakeview.

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he was a deputy sheriff at the time. He was a very close friend of ours. It was his image

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and he created it and we are very blessed to be able to carry on his vision. He passed away

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six years ago on his 65th birthday and so we have under one of our canopies we have a display

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specifically for him in his honor.

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I think that's all I have to say. If there's any questions

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No, just I just want to make sure you still have people watching it at night so that there's

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not nobody can come and analyze it or anything like that I really appreciate you guys doing that.

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Yeah, we have actually this year I had two of my brothers two out of five.

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Two have come over and they're staying at our place and sipping during the day so they can

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be out all night and watch it. Perfect. We've only had no problem and the police department

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is wonderful. They drive by a few times. State police, they always drive by and shine

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their light in and let us know they're there. So. Perfect. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, thank

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you so much for doing this. Thank you very much. And thank you for a nice presentation

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to do. Well, thank you. Good job. And thanks to Brianna. This is a very nice presentation.

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I appreciate you.

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I appreciate you.

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Thank you.

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I don't think so.

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Motion to approve this or anything.

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We've already agreed to it.

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Now you're the presenter and requester.

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No, I am the presenter.

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So, so back with the legislature last year.

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They passed at the very last moment.

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an authorization on the Christmas tree bill of $5 million that went to grant Josephine Union

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crook and I say Union County is already I'm not sure. Yeah. Anyway and so obviously we were very

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excited a million dollars to a fair that doesn't have a lot of money and needs a lot of infrastructure

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things so it ended up being a very interesting grant and we first met with

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Crooked River who is our entity that runs on horse races to kind of see where

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we were at what we thought we wanted to do and I'm not going to lie I wanted

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restrooms and I think the rodeo people here can attest to that and so it became very

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evident that we needed to find more information and so Doug very graciously put

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in contact with Connie Wynn, who is our executive racing council director executive director of the Oregon Racing Commission.

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Okay, and that was when we found some even more interesting things because on section three paragraph A, it says no restrooms, no bridges, no whatever, there's no administrative fees written into this grant at all.

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There is a thing that says solely for horse safety.

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So if you look at the packet, I put kind of a popery of the information that we've received

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on it.

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All the counties except Union and Crook have accepted the grant.

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Josephine did something interesting is that they put in an addendum that they are going

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to build restrooms.

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With the grant we were told that the grant could not be changed by any means and that it

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would have a legislative punishment if we did.

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So I find that Josephine, I concluded that in here.

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I find that a very interesting thing.

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We have a list of the projects

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that Crooked River has suggested.

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And even Crooked River, if you look here on this,

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some of the things that they suggested

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are not what we consider for horse safety.

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One of those was, well, painting the rail, that makes sense, obviously a starting gate

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obviously makes sense, but like in real storage and the paramutual building, I was very

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surprised to see that they weren't affirmative on that.

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So there's quite a lot of aspects to this grant.

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And through the meetings with Connie, we understood that we needed to get a hold of this cat wall

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care from Department of Administrative Services which we had two meetings with her and the

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first meeting she wasn't even really sure about the grant and from there we kind of

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discussed more things and so it became very evident and I'm going to use a water truck

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for example. If Kirk County were to take this grant and the County were to buy this water

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truck, we would have to ensure it, we would own it whatever, but it would only be able

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to be used for the five days of the racing. That was what was said, administrative services.

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If we built a barn, it would have to be chained up. And so it became very interesting the way

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this grant had come down. If we were to charge administrative services, we were to come

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up with a reasonable amount that we thought we could charge. No percentage was ever given out.

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So here we are with this grant and God knows I don't want to give up a million dollars because

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a million dollars is a lot but there is a lot of, I don't know how to say it, there's a lot of

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fingers in this pie, a lot of strings and the fact that we do have the crooked river, they are

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our private entity. They do come in and run this. We are in a unique situation that we could be

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like Union County and I just talked to Matt Scarfow at Union and they are going to go for a

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legislative where they're going to ask to alter the grant to be placed not on their fairgrounds

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but on the place where they actually run the races which is Eastern Oregon probably know.

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And in our case, I feel that we would be best served by having our private entity, Crook

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and River manage and run this grant.

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There's four times a year reporting that has to be done.

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And so there's just a lot of, like you say, strings attached to this grant and how do we

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as a county manage it.

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One of the things that was interesting was purses.

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So if you look at the list that Doug has done, they want purses 80,000 a year for three years, which is $240,000 of it.

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I have a problem with, what do I want to say, not encouraging, but in a way it's the county promoting gambling.

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And so in this packet, you will also see where Coney has written out why they feel that

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by adding money for purses, it actually increases the safety of the horses.

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I'm not exactly sure that I follow her reasoning, but this is what has come down from the racing

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council so that it says why we could also be able to use it for purses.

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and Doug, do you want to come up and say anything as far as your basis of the crooked river and us kind of together?

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You've got to get up and give us your address and all of that stuff.

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Have I covered it good? There's a lot of factors to this grant. It's so unusual.

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Well, the record dug snuff cook of the roundup.

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So there's some mistrus and misconceptions that have been in this hall along.

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First of all, the money was awarded based on the fact that in the 20, 25 legislative session,

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There was a grand bargain reached, and the racing industry agreed not to stand in the

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way of a bill that eliminated wagering on Greyhounds and Oregon.

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Now, there hasn't been Greyhound racing in Oregon for many, many years.

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It's illegal to race Greyhounds and Oregon, but the hub which funds most of the horse racing

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in Oregon as a computer to bank out by the Portland airport in Portland.

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And what happened was they passed a law in 2025 that eliminated wagering in that hub.

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So if somebody in Kentucky bets on a horse in Singapore or a dog in Singapore, that bet

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was placed in Portland.

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And the tax on it is about a quarter of a percent.

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But that money split two-thirds to the association to the racing commission to promote racing

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and one-third to the general fund of the state of Oregon.

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They eliminated that, which eliminated about $800,000 a year of revenue for the racing entities,

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which there are five of us in Oregon.

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As part of that bargain they had agreed to provide some funding to replace that money from the lottery.

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In the short session last year that bill made it through committee, got two ways and means and the person that was involved in that grand bargain re-nig done what he wanted to do.

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So, at the end of the legislative session, there was a big push to come up with about $385 million to fund the notice and a remodel.

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Were Democrats and Republicans stood up and said, you're going to do something for rural Aryan, and that's where the million dollars came from.

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And it was done at the last minute on the last day of the legislature just before they

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did their send-by.

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So that's where the money came from.

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It was dedicated to racetrack safety.

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Every one of the other counties is going to use, so we don't rule or now have lost the 800,000

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a year that was funding part of the purses.

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So all the other tracks were advised early on in the process to set aside some of the money

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for purses, and that's where our purses came from.

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The other thing I want to caution you about is talking about how you don't want to promote

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gambling, but you love spending the lottery money.

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And I will tell you that our little four day race track has a lot fewer problem gamblers

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at it than the probably you see in a video lottery room on a daily basis.

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We are not a big gambling deal.

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The average patron that our track spends about $25 a day, right?

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I mean, it's it's smog potatoes and it's four days a year and we want to keep it that way.

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we don't intend to change it. We're not promoting gambling, we're promoting

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Primal, we're promoting our community, and we're promoting the fact that Primal

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has grown now to be the largest racetrack in the state of Oregon. We had a

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more money, more money in our handle in four days and grants passed as in their

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or 10-day thigh meat, or their seven-day summer meat, or double what stomach handles, probably

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five times what they handle in union.

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And it was interesting to see through this that the only entity that couldn't come up

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with an agreement with the racing entity was Kirk County.

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Okay, all the others had no problem.

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They didn't need to change the wording of the law.

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I know that legal counsel for your board called every legal counsel in the other places

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because I'm connected enough that I was getting that feedback as we were talking about

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it.

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And they were laughing at us because we're the ones that are telling that they're calling

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me asking me for ideas on how to spend their money.

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And yet we have people calling them trying to change what the money is for.

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And, you know, we have serious, and I brought a picture of the corner of a racetrack.

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And if you've ever been to the Cricket River Roundup, you can watch the horses run around

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the South corner and almost every race they try to blow that corner.

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The number one thing on my list to fix is to redo that corner so a horse can actually run

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around it. What happens now is the inside horse runs straight and carries all the other

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horses wide on that corner, every time they go around it. And it's a danger.

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What I

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would have loved to have seen was Cook County take the same loading, type of the grant,

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take the same loading.

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In the original note from DAS, they said either the county or the

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the cricket river roundup could be responsible for the reporting, or the cricket river roundup

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was willing to take that, if Crick County had signed for that grant and reassigned it

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Yes, he's under the same wording, same...

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Ditions that DAS has, we could have administrative the grant, reported back to Kirk County on a quarterly basis, as well as DAS and the Racing Commission. And we could have had this money six months ago and been and had the safety things done and in the work so that they're in place in 2027 for a roundup. But that wasn't the direction that the process went. It was, well, how do we change?

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it to use it for something else.

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I'd be happy to answer any questions. What do I really want

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to see you do is I'd really love you see you say, okay, we accept the grant we're going to give

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it to the cryptic river roundup under the same conditions that DAS gave it to us. If you don't do that,

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then at least do what unions doing, which is put the money back so that it can be and we can go

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through the possibility that the legislature will re-assign it.

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There's also, anytime, as you know, when you go to the legislature, there's always the possibility

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that what you want done is what's going to happen.

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So I think it would be best for Kirk County if we did it under the concept.

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I, the first meeting I went to, I brought a list and I was expecting us to talk about

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the list.

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We've never had a discussion about the list.

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It's always been about, I guess, the disappointment that we couldn't build restrooms because, you

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know, even when we first started with our first list, it was in a parametral room with restrooms

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in it.

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and every time I've proposed it, it's been turned down by DAS.

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The million-dollar list that Susie has now is shorted by $152,000

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because they turned down 80,000 for their mutual room and the storage facility.

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So,

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I am going to say in talking to DAS, your idea of us transferring it, that wasn't

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the, and I'm going to ask Will here too, that wasn't the impression we got, we got that

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we did need to go ahead and legislatively re-re-give it to the Crooked River that we couldn't

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do what you're saying is just say we're taking it and giving it that, that's the impression

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I always got we couldn't we needed to go back to the legislature to go ahead to give it to you.

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That's my understanding as well that ultimately we'd always

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be responsible for how the money spent based on how the legislation

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proved to be true. If you gave a grant to us we would be responsible for how the money spent

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had been reporting back to you, and we would report to DAS, but yes, Crook County would

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be in the tunic band on how it spent. But in the original, the very first communication

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I had between myself, Commissioner Hendrick and was, who do you want to be the signer

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on the grant and who would be the reporter, and at that time I was told that the Crooked

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River Roundup could do the reporting.

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That wasn't my impression.

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From DAS, that wasn't my impression.

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So that's why I have come up with the idea that I think it would be better to go ahead and

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to assign it to Crooked River because they are private entity.

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They do run that.

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you in turn would have to get permission from a fair board because you don't own the property,

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you know, so therefore you can't just go over and feel you can build something without their

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permission without our procurement rules. But again, that was the way it was laid out to me that

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was the best opportunity was to go ahead and bypass the grant as far as the county and to give you

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the discretion on how to use it. And I've been kind of surprised. I was kind of surprised about the

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paramutual building that they said no because obviously it needs repairs. I mean, there's certain things and I'm not going to lie to you. I wanted restrooms out of it, but then section three paragraph A specifically said no, so it was a reorientation

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of what we felt in a way what the grant was because everything comes down to safety for the horses.

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courses and writers.

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Well, yeah, obviously the writers, yeah.

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So when I agree with you on painting the rail,

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I agree with you.

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I agree with you.

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I was needing on the starting gate because it's old.

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There's 500,000 of that grant just taken up right there.

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In painting the rail, a starting gate and your purses.

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So I hear Doug saying they would like the money.

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We're saying we're giving you the money.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Is that work?

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That's fine.

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If that's the way the commission wants to go, that's fine.

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I just feel there is risk when we go back.

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If we go back to the legislature and have them reassign the money, there is risk.

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I don't think that's fair.

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Are we saying we're going to go back to the legislature and reassign the committee?

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Well, what we would have to do is write a letter of support that we would like.

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It's exactly what Eastern, our Union County is doing with theirs.

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their grant says it goes to the fairgrounds. That isn't where they run the races.

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So what Matt Scarfo told me is they're going to go back and say we would like you

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to change that and go there. But that doesn't mean Union County isn't taking it.

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They are. In our case, basically we have to look at the fact do we want to take this money

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and depend on Crooked River or is it best just to let Crooked River take over

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because they're the private entity that runs the races?

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And in my opinion, probably better to not be saying yes, no, whatever, and let crooked

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river take the lead on it.

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I have asked numerous times if there was a possibility of losing this money and I've

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been told no, but I still were dealing with an entity that is a legislature.

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So I'm not going to say that that possibility does not.

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You can never say never.

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let's just put it that way. Again, and this is a lot of money and how do we best use it?

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And in my opinion, it's not the fair board that makes the decision on the safety of the

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horses. It's the Crooked River. So therefore by us supporting the Crooked River, doing that,

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us having an MOU that they understand they have to go to the fair board for any capital

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improvements, they have to use our county rules because it's on county ground. I think

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that that is the way to go, in my opinion, because that gives you full authority.

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And also, if something were to happen, if you were to use 10,000 of it to buy T-shirts

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or something, that they don't approve of, that is on their back, not our back.

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I'm trying because I'm constantly being told that we're going to have a legislative, I don't

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know what I want to call it, punishment, or something, and so that, to me, that seems

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like the best use of the money the best safety for the county of the money and that is my

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opinion and I just because that gives you the driver's seat you're holding this steering with

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rather than coming back to us all the time. But how long is that going to take?

446
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Well when the legislature opens up this it would go it would go immediately on and Mike McLean

447
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:13,080
knows about it and so does Vicki, Reese Iverson. They both know that that is kind of a direction

448
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,120
that we think would be the best way to go for our county.

449
00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:24,080
You guys have, you know, it's

450
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,520
just like this Jackson County addendum. I don't think this is worth the paper that it's written.

451
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:35,660
That's that's what I've been told. I think it's a nice effort, but I don't think it's worth it.

452
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,740
And I agree with you, Doug. I agree with you. Like I say, starting gate versus

453
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:45,160
rail, where you go from there, water truck, you talked about a horse ambulance.

454
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,540
One of the questions that I brought up to DAS and to Connie was, if you have a

455
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:54,640
horse ambulance, can we use it, God forbid, I don't ever want to use a horse

456
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,620
ambulance, but can we use it for the rodeo, can we use it for high school, can we use

457
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:06,340
it for pee-wee, and I was told no. It can only be used for racehorses. And so to

458
00:39:06,340 --> 00:39:12,720
me why have a county thing that is sitting there for five days and you saw I put

459
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:18,160
specifically in here the thing about the barn where she says recipient

460
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,060
she'll use the grant solely for supporting racing events and then it says

461
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:28,880
none and then it goes in about bathrooms roads bridges but she has a paragraph in

462
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,100
here that if you build a barn that it can it's chained up the rest of the time

463
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:38,760
and this comes from Connie Win. It's in that packet that it has to be chained up the rest of the

464
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,940
time. Why would we use square footage on a county fairgrounds? It's limited in square footage

465
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:51,000
for a barn that can only be used for five days. Yeah and that's not that's not how it how real life

466
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:58,960
is going to work at all. I haven't read I haven't been privy to your to that document but I can tell

467
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,980
you that tell them what his building does and those stalls will be used for a lot of

468
00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:09,620
things during the year. And they should be. I agree. They should be. It's just like

469
00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:15,120
a horse ambulance. It should never be used. I hope it has cobwebs on it, but if it had

470
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,780
to be used, it should be used. But if that's what we can't just say, well, I hope they're

471
00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:28,320
not going to come after a start. Well, I can tell you that I have again, I have not read

472
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:35,360
that document, right? That I was not partying to it, but I can tell you that they fully understand,

473
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,560
and I'll just give you an example, is that we have received safety grants before,

474
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:47,620
direct from the state that we have bought pieces of equipment worth that are used for every

475
00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:53,760
event that the cricket river roundup puts on, and we've also used, for instance, the rock picker

476
00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:04,860
in the arena and on the track, and I've actually offered to pick the rocks out of the 4-H arena with it.

477
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:09,760
So this stuff, it's very commonly used for other things, and I don't...

478
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,440
Yeah, I can't speak to those other contracts.

479
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,220
In this contract, it clearly says that you will not use it for anything else.

480
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,780
And so until that could change...

481
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:22,180
In contract, Seth, as we have assigned the contract, are we?

482
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:35,500
Well, we have the grant agreement here that cannot be changed by any means, and then we've been asking about different things, and here you have in here that, you know, it's

483
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:42,140
I specifically asked about the ambulance. I specifically asked about the water truck, and those are the answers that I got.

484
00:41:42,780 --> 00:41:47,800
I specifically asked about the purses, she said that enhanced for safety, I said write

485
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,240
me a document which is in this packet of how this helps horses.

486
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:57,660
That way that if a constituent came to me and said you're giving $240,000 for purses,

487
00:41:57,940 --> 00:42:03,200
I had a document that came from the racing council that said this is why we need this money

488
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,860
for purses.

489
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:10,980
I specifically have tried to hone in on this and these are the answers that I have gotten

490
00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:18,660
back, that's why I feel that it's better that you, as a private entity, have control of

491
00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:25,760
this money, report on this money, and kind of, you're still getting the money, but you're

492
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,560
using it for the things that are equitable for the two of you, because you have to, you

493
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,640
have to respect the Racing Council, or you're not going to be running horse races. So therefore,

494
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,580
or I feel you have a better working relationship than we do.

495
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:40,240
So I have a question.

496
00:42:41,060 --> 00:42:44,140
I like the, you know, going to the legislature

497
00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:45,360
and getting it for sure,

498
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,540
but are there any other avenues that we could go

499
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:51,920
to accept the money and then hold the

500
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,540
Vancouver accountable internally?

501
00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:56,600
That's up to our legal opinion.

502
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,400
I mean, that seems like that might be a good middle ground

503
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,960
where we get the money right now.

504
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,920
we can start working and fixing things and getting ready for the quicker round up next year instead of

505
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:17,680
waiting another full year to get the money. So I guess the question to you is given the fact that

506
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:25,300
DAS has told us that this grant agreement will not be changed. Are you willing to abide by the terms?

507
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:31,220
And if the answer to that question is no then I think Susan's idea makes a lot of sense. If the

508
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:35,300
The answer is yes, you are willing to abide by the terms and if something goes wrong it

509
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:38,100
is the county taxpayers were responsible for it.

510
00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:46,120
There might be some potential ways that a subcontract might be possible.

511
00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:48,980
I would need to refresh my memory as to the terms of the grant.

512
00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:57,760
I think ultimately yes, it is the county signing agreement with the state so something does

513
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,840
not happen.

514
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,640
and it is the county taxpayers who are responsible.

515
00:44:01,820 --> 00:44:03,260
We will not be able to say,

516
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,760
or we had a subcontract go after them instead.

517
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,920
We might be able to go after them.

518
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,400
The contract hold them accountable if they screwed up.

519
00:44:12,740 --> 00:44:13,140
Potentially.

520
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,320
I will need to refresh my memory as to the exact terms

521
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,820
of the grant, so I don't wanna sell it forth

522
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:18,820
with the answer right now.

523
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,640
But that would be a case where the county,

524
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,040
the sole blue means possible.

525
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,320
That would be a case where the county would have to go

526
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,580
after its subcontractor.

527
00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:31,780
And it does not excuse that the county is responsible to the state.

528
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,960
You want to weigh in it on?

529
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,900
I'm happy to share a couple of thoughts.

530
00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:52,540
So in thinking about Susie's recommendation, I do think it makes some sense for

531
00:44:52,540 --> 00:44:54,220
the community for a couple of reasons.

532
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:59,920
One, Doug and the Roundup are the subject matter experts on the

533
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:29,860
They know what needs to be done to improve the race track. They know what needs to be done to make it safer for the riders and the horses. Second reason is, as Doug noted, the county is in the chain of command as it's set up right now. We are going to have, as a result, administrative costs associated with that. And one option would be we recover those from the roundup.

534
00:45:29,860 --> 00:45:35,660
which limits the total amount of money that the round-up can use on these.

535
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:41,000
10-15% was what Christina predicted, so there's 100-150,000.

536
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,760
Or we wave them and then the taxpayers are paying for those administrative costs.

537
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:51,620
So from my perspective, there is a benefit to getting the money into the experts,

538
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,660
the folks who know what they're doing, getting the money into their hands,

539
00:45:56,220 --> 00:46:01,920
and making sure the taxpayers aren't having to support this on the back end through administrative

540
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080
class one way or another. So, I think that makes sense.

541
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,680
And then, you know, certainly there

542
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:15,860
may be an option to, to, to, to assess suggestion about the subcontractor. There may be, certainly

543
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:19,420
benefit to doing that. You eliminate the risk of whatever might happen with the legislature

544
00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:27,080
sure, and you get the money here quicker. But you do, you run the risk of the

545
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,640
administrative fees. Yeah, so you run that, you run that risk. You have that

546
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,980
haircut on administrative fees, you run the risk for the county and the taxpayers,

547
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,220
you run the risk that something does go wrong, and then you're trying to enforce

548
00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:44,360
a contract, and those disputes may or may not turn out the way you think they

549
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,060
will, regardless of how well the subcontract may be maybe drafted. So risk

550
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:56,500
there but to Doug's point there is you know certainly risking going to the legislature and asking them to

551
00:46:56,500 --> 00:47:03,800
fix it like Union County's doing so yeah I mean I see the value of giving you getting you the

552
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:09,920
entire money even if it takes a little bit longer it just seems like you're in the driver's seat

553
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,800
we're not and again what if something goes wrong are we going to come after you for a million

554
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,540
in-box? I mean.

555
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:24,620
So the idea that you're going to lose a million dollars is pretty ridiculous, because we know

556
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:30,080
that we're going to buy a starting gate and it's $128,000 and once you spend it, it's $128,000

557
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:38,040
worth of starting gate that's here, right? It's been approved, we know that. The questions

558
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:43,420
you have and I would go back once you get the list approved and we figure out what we can

559
00:47:43,420 --> 00:47:51,820
and cannot do, which is a constant negotiation between when $152,000 drops off the list,

560
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,060
you have to add $152,000 to the bottom of the list, and then you go out and you start

561
00:47:57,060 --> 00:48:03,840
negotiating with, and so one of the things I was talking about is a viewing platform for

562
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:09,060
the races, because what we have is insufficient. It's been approved. It's on the DAS list.

563
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:14,800
it's on the ORC list, but it needs to be engineered and it needs to be agreed to from the county

564
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:22,340
court or county fairgrounds, right? And now you go through the process of what will the county,

565
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:29,480
what will Casey and the Fair Board agree to versus how much is it going to cost to build it and

566
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,320
engineer it and everything else? And of course we can't spend any money because we don't have any money.

567
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:48,120
So basically when we say we're going to wait till January, we're waiting till January to even start really coming up with concrete ideas because I can't spend money on engineering until I have the money.

568
00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:56,860
I'm just, this whole thing is getting drug quite a ways and I'll just throw another one

569
00:48:56,860 --> 00:49:04,460
out as if we are a year late getting the money, then an interest is 5% without compounding.

570
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:15,340
You've left $50,000 laying on the table, that based on the terms of the grant, as the

571
00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:23,400
third bounce. 50,000 is a big deal. 5,000 is a big deal. I totally understand.

572
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:30,700
I totally agree with you on that. I can try to look out for the whole county and the rest of the

573
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:35,640
tech. You know, it's just like what we'll say. I'm trying to look out for the whole. Not everyone

574
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:41,720
thinks horse racing is wonderful. I mean, and that's that's not my opinion, but that's other people's

575
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:47,000
opinion and I'm trying to look out for the county and every taxpayer here and it just seems like

576
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:53,060
more control would go to you and yes you're going to have to go to the fair board to do.

577
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,800
It's just like your idea of a viewing thing is going to be really in trouble when you get into your

578
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,200
ADA requirements. I don't know that you'll be able to pull that off. Hopefully you can't but I'm

579
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,880
just throwing that out there and that's something we're going to have to face. So there's certain things

580
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:15,020
on here that are going to be back and forth and it will be between you and the fair board.

581
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:16,520
I don't know.

582
00:50:16,940 --> 00:50:17,120
Yeah.

583
00:50:18,260 --> 00:50:24,720
I'm in huge support of the races and I think the vast majority of our community is huge

584
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:25,700
support of our races.

585
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,180
That's not at all what's slowing me down.

586
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:35,160
What's slowing me down is the process and I want every dollar to go to the races.

587
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:41,240
I don't want to have administrative additional costs, because we do have time and effort.

588
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:47,460
And Christina is very sharp and very conservative, so she would not, we're not trying to

589
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:48,280
build you for money.

590
00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:52,580
That would be actual time and effort that our finance department would be working on this.

591
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:59,980
And so I see the value of waiting a little bit to get you, maybe if you say 50,000, but

592
00:50:59,980 --> 00:51:04,440
you know, if the economy goes down, maybe you get more paying for your buck.

593
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:11,440
I think you can say either way on that, but yeah, no, I got to say I'm huge

594
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,300
supporter of this more traces. I think our vast majority of our community is

595
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:21,100
as well. I think it brings a ton of things into our economy, but I see the

596
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,680
value of waiting to make sure you get the entire amount.

597
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:30,150
Can it also work through the process? I've seen that there's some way that we can

598
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:35,690
legally have them indemnify the county for their actions and the way they spend

599
00:51:35,690 --> 00:51:41,810
their money. I've added it to the list. Yeah, I mean, is there a parallel? We can be going at the

600
00:51:41,810 --> 00:51:51,250
same time. So my understanding from my discussions with Senator McLean and Senator Broadman is we do

601
00:51:51,250 --> 00:51:59,190
need to make a decision really, really soon because the bill has to be introduced so that it can be

602
00:51:59,190 --> 00:52:05,770
addressed in the early part of the legislative session, right, which starts in January.

603
00:52:05,770 --> 00:52:10,330
And then we've got to make sure that whoever's the governor will sign it.

604
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:17,170
Yeah, so I guess to Brian's point, can we do this on a parallel process?

605
00:52:17,170 --> 00:52:21,710
If we between now and that we say right now, we're going to look for legislative fix,

606
00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:26,270
but if between now and then we find a way that the counties

607
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:33,790
and demnified from giving the money to the horse races that we just say, okay, we're good, let's roll.

608
00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:42,290
Yeah, I think Commissioner Heimrich and we'll have done the line share of the work on the matter of the legislation.

609
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:50,470
And so this is really just, the parallel track will be refueling the terms of the grant agreement in order to allow

610
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:55,350
to see under what circumstances and under what conditions might the county have,

611
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:58,570
some sort of some contract for lack of a better word,

612
00:52:58,890 --> 00:53:00,950
and what sort of protections the county might put in.

613
00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:05,870
Possibilities to explore, like you said, require insurance coverage.

614
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:09,570
Insurance generally does not include contract disputes.

615
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:11,610
Perhaps some bond.

616
00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:16,370
So there's a third party, surety, guaranteeing performance.

617
00:53:17,850 --> 00:53:23,170
So there are a lot of different possibilities we'll look into, some of them may be good ideas, some of them may be bad ideas.

618
00:53:24,430 --> 00:53:27,210
But we can see we can find out and bring it back at a future meeting.

619
00:53:27,550 --> 00:53:30,830
I would like to see the lowest cost to no cost option.

620
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:40,110
Well, I mean, you're going to have to balance two things. You're going to have to balance the risk to the county versus the lowest cost to the parties.

621
00:53:40,330 --> 00:53:44,030
And maybe those two things are in alignment or maybe they're in conflict.

622
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:50,450
No, I agree. I would just say I would like to see what that would be my optimal outcome

623
00:53:50,450 --> 00:53:57,890
is the lower to no cost and get things going as soon as possible. But that will take

624
00:53:57,890 --> 00:54:03,470
a little time. But we can do both things by making a decision to move forward with the legislation.

625
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:09,410
That doesn't change the fact that if we found a good option between now and then we could

626
00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:11,230
change your mind and accept the money?

627
00:54:11,570 --> 00:54:16,630
So here's what I think I've heard, is there's interest in having some legal research done

628
00:54:17,290 --> 00:54:21,690
regarding the matter of whether, for lack of a better word, a subcontract is even feasible

629
00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:24,550
and under what terms would be appropriate.

630
00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:31,730
I think we can research that in the meanwhile, what I understand is that the county can go

631
00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:39,390
to its local legislators and say we're interested in this, but we're not at a place yet where

632
00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:41,070
we want to say, yes, let's pull the trigger.

633
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:45,770
I think we all understand that there is a ticking clock.

634
00:54:48,510 --> 00:54:50,690
So hopefully we will get an answer soon.

635
00:54:52,050 --> 00:54:55,810
But what I hear today is that the board

636
00:54:55,810 --> 00:54:58,790
is not necessarily committed to the legislation

637
00:54:58,790 --> 00:54:59,770
for the next session.

638
00:55:01,310 --> 00:55:05,590
So what I'm saying is, what's the harm in getting them

639
00:55:05,590 --> 00:55:06,850
working on legislation?

640
00:55:06,850 --> 00:55:13,430
And if we find another plan in between now and then that legislation is now obsolete.

641
00:55:13,850 --> 00:55:21,210
Yeah, given working on the legislation, if they're willing to do that, I don't think there is any harm.

642
00:55:22,730 --> 00:55:30,010
But then at a certain juncture, the draft bill, the legislative concept has to be submitted to the legislature for the next session.

643
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:32,930
I don't know exactly when that deadline is.

644
00:55:34,030 --> 00:55:40,770
And it may be that the local lunch sliders do not want to start working on this unless

645
00:55:40,770 --> 00:55:42,310
they have firm commitment from the county.

646
00:55:42,570 --> 00:55:48,790
So I'll probably need to defer to Commissioner Hermrack about reaching out to Ms. Bruce

647
00:55:48,790 --> 00:55:50,250
Iverson and Mr. McLean.

648
00:55:51,290 --> 00:55:53,750
I mean, I did drop Liz's solution all the time.

649
00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:59,750
I agree, but I don't want to volunteer their time if they're going to say this is not worth

650
00:55:59,750 --> 00:56:02,910
the effort. Okay,

651
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:19,660
did you entertain a motion? Or is there any more public input? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I could ask if there's anyone else in the audience that wants to give public. Laura, do you like to say anything or Dale as fair as fair board? Would you like to?

652
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,840
No, I just came to learn what was going on.

653
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,120
Okay.

654
00:56:27,810 --> 00:56:32,670
Well, I've given you guys everything that I can give you that, you know, that was

655
00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:39,230
public that we found out. I know in my mind, I would like to see all the money go to

656
00:56:39,230 --> 00:56:43,910
Perkett River so that they could use it. I think they could do it cheaper and whatever.

657
00:56:45,290 --> 00:56:50,430
That's my opinion. But that, you know, again, I don't have any problem with him working side

658
00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:56,670
by side to see if a subcontract can be done, but what would you think a motion would be good

659
00:56:56,670 --> 00:57:04,510
right now? Well, because you've read all this with me. Well, based on our biggest risk is

660
00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:08,370
violation of the grant agreement?

661
00:57:10,810 --> 00:57:15,970
Well, so I mean, I did in the spot, but there are a lot of potential

662
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:25,450
risks. So as Susan has highlighted the legislative grant for the million dollars for horse racing

663
00:57:25,450 --> 00:57:34,390
at county fairgrounds said one thing, the grant agreement said something else. And part of

664
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:41,650
the discussion today has been, is the county in a position where it is willing to sign the grant

665
00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:48,190
agreement and abide by the terms bearing a meaning that DAS has advised us they absolutely

666
00:57:48,190 --> 00:57:55,210
positively will not modify the terms no matter what. So if the county signs the grant agreement

667
00:57:55,210 --> 00:58:01,270
and is not able to live up to those obligations then the county taxpayers need to get out their

668
00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:05,990
checkbook and pay the Department of Administrative Services a million dollars.

669
00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:09,610
As Susan noted

670
00:58:09,610 --> 00:58:15,070
that there are a variety of different reports that need to be submitted.

671
00:58:15,070 --> 00:58:17,770
I think, if I remember, quite a little reports.

672
00:58:18,350 --> 00:58:18,710
Thank you.

673
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:22,670
Yes, so there will be some staff time limit.

674
00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:28,390
As you guys know, there's an opportunity cost to performing any of those administrative services.

675
00:58:28,550 --> 00:58:31,410
That's not like the county has no abundance of free time.

676
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:37,690
So the time spent on performing those reports may ultimately be a trade-off for

677
00:58:37,690 --> 00:58:40,870
to invest in, but it is a trade-off.

678
00:58:42,250 --> 00:58:44,570
Yeah, I understand the expenses of them.

679
00:58:44,770 --> 00:58:47,370
I mean, this was kind of touching base

680
00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:48,730
on what our real threats were.

681
00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:52,530
And not the economics of them.

682
00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:54,050
I've come in here real quick.

683
00:58:54,790 --> 00:58:57,750
Doug, do you think you could get a letter from...

684
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:59,550
You said at the beginning of your conversation,

685
00:58:59,910 --> 00:59:02,750
you said that you thought that you could go to the county

686
00:59:02,750 --> 00:59:04,990
or the racing commission.

687
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:16,390
I mean, I mean, I mean, I think if we could get a letter from them saying it could go to crooked river, uh, that that might alleviate a lot of years.

688
00:59:16,790 --> 00:59:24,010
So that early on in this, I received a letter when I first found out about the grant and was trying to find out about it.

689
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:33,010
And I will say the county already knew about it already had a committee appointed to out to spend the money before the roundup even found out that the money had actually been allocated.

690
00:59:33,010 --> 00:59:34,930
We didn't have a committee appointed.

691
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:36,830
We were just talking, but go ahead.

692
00:59:36,970 --> 00:59:40,130
Well, I was told by management at the Fairgrounds

693
00:59:40,130 --> 00:59:41,590
that there was a committee appointed,

694
00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:42,970
and who was on the committee.

695
00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:47,990
So we went through this,

696
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:52,490
I sat down and sent Susie a note that said,

697
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:06,020
Who would be doing the reporting? And in that note, to Susie, I said, they told me that the

698
01:00:06,020 --> 01:00:15,820
criteria around it could do the reporting. And also keep in mind, like I tried to impress

699
01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:23,740
earlier, that the county is not going to be on the blind for a million dollars in any way

700
01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:33,500
shape performed because there are 20 probably 20 different projects and if one doesn't, one doesn't

701
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:39,400
happen, the county is not going to be responsible for the other 19. So you're talking about if we, if

702
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,940
we do a bad job painting the rail or something and somebody says, oh, the rail doesn't qualify,

703
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:53,420
that's a $5,000 project, that's what's on the line if we don't use the grant funds to

704
01:00:53,420 --> 01:00:58,220
paint the rail. I can tell you that either the cricket rate of roundup is going to have to paint the rail,

705
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,660
or the county fairground is going to have to paint the rail because it needs to paint it. So,

706
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:09,980
I mean, we're sitting here talking about things that we're going to, you know, there's $22,000 in this,

707
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:16,160
and if you go down and look at the white fencing on the outside of the racetrack that was put in by,

708
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:22,780
I think, when Larry Smith was on the the fairboard, well, it's sunrotted and it's starting to fall

709
01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:29,540
apart and fold over and it's no longer protecting the wires on the top, something simple, it's

710
01:01:29,540 --> 01:01:31,700
$22,000 to replace it.

711
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:38,940
So I mean there's a lot of this that are things that one are going to be quick, two aren't

712
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:46,680
going to require a lot of work, and three, the odds of somebody being held responsible for

713
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,100
non-performance are pretty nil.

714
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:53,920
So I think we're trying to make a mountain out of a moral hill on the reporting side.

715
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:59,960
So along those lines though, are if the county will, if county accepts the money,

716
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:03,680
is it then does it all have to be done at prevailing wage?

717
01:02:06,260 --> 01:02:07,580
Eric, I'm going to have to lean in here.

718
01:02:09,540 --> 01:02:10,060
Sorry.

719
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:18,220
Yeah, short answer is that we should assume that public improvements at the fairgrounds property

720
01:02:18,220 --> 01:02:22,800
will be subject to prevailing wage if they otherwise meet the requirements for prevailing

721
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:31,900
wage. So for instance, relatively small projects probably wouldn't, but you all, that the

722
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:40,160
definition of what meets the prevailing wage requirements is expansive. So the assumption

723
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:45,240
and we should work with is particularly for large

724
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,440
items, large value items.

725
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,100
Yes, it would be required that the county would pay

726
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:51,860
preparing wage.

727
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,840
Well, that has to go through the procurement process.

728
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,840
All that stuff, it's better we can just get the money out of the

729
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,120
county and see that's the problem, Doug, if we were in a

730
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,320
perfect world where we just got this money and we got

731
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,080
suspended and we didn't live in the state of

732
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,580
Oregon with all the rules and all the regulations that we

733
01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:13,680
we deal with. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation. But you start diving into

734
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:19,840
the rules and regulations that Salem puts on the entire state, including us. Then it gets

735
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,900
real tricky. And you start screwing with those things. And then there are fines. And then there are

736
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:33,960
issues. And the job may end up being done perfectly right. But it doesn't check all the boxes that

737
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:40,920
were required to follow. And then now we're on the hook and you guys go up, we got, we

738
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:46,020
got our band advance, you know, we're great. So, so I will tell you that I had that discussion

739
01:03:46,020 --> 01:03:52,820
with the S and because I was wondering what kind of state, if we got the grant, what do we have

740
01:03:52,820 --> 01:03:59,040
to follow? State procurement rules and the answer was no. Did you put that in writing? No, it wasn't

741
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:06,320
and writing. Okay. So those are the members. And that's the thing. So you want a water truck.

742
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:11,560
Crock County goes out and there's a process we have to do to get that water truck. You want

743
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:19,000
a water truck. You go out and you ask Yale to sell or your water truck and it's totally that was

744
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:27,020
the things that to me made it way more difficult way more costly. Now in turn you can't store that

745
01:04:27,020 --> 01:04:32,140
water truck on the fairgrounds, you'd have to put it in a yard somewhere, but again those were

746
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:36,700
the sort of things, it's just like the horse ambulance. All of that, that was what I felt.

747
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:44,340
You could get more bang for your buck. If you take administrative services and you take,

748
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,360
it's you're not following. If they're telling you, you don't have to follow those rules,

749
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,620
that takes a lot off the top. So again, my thought was, is that if the

750
01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:58,380
the state can write a contract that says you don't have to bring state purchasing rules forward.

751
01:04:58,540 --> 01:05:03,620
Then the county should be able to write the same contract that says you don't have to bring county purchasing rules through.

752
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,320
But that's not in the contract that we've received, which they've told us we can't change.

753
01:05:08,180 --> 01:05:09,700
I haven't seen your contract.

754
01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:10,840
Well, we're happy to-

755
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,560
The grant. It's the grant agreement.

756
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:13,460
You've seen the grant.

757
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,340
I've not seen the grant agreement.

758
01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:16,240
I've seen the grant.

759
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:20,180
I've seen all the rules.

760
01:05:20,180 --> 01:05:25,740
But I have not seen the agreement. I have to say that you have to sign. I think she sent that to you

761
01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:29,000
Well, I think we're happy to share that with you. Well, it's in the packet

762
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,060
It's not in the packet right now. It's so quickly out there

763
01:05:32,060 --> 01:05:35,980
So I think we there there's a potential path here because it sounds like sorry

764
01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:44,240
It sounds like the people that you're talking to are telling you things that we're not hearing and if we can get those things in writing

765
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,620
They've told Susie things that they aren't telling me to yeah, well, that's the thing

766
01:05:48,620 --> 01:05:55,500
That's the state of Oregon for you so get that stuff in writing and that will streamline this entire process

767
01:05:55,500 --> 01:06:01,360
If you can get a writing that we can give you the money and that you do with the recording and we're not on the hook for it

768
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:07,100
That's a huge step if you can get in writing that if you guys get the money through that process

769
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,400
You don't have to go through state processes and it's not on the county's back

770
01:06:12,540 --> 01:06:13,540
Perfect, let's go

771
01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:20,820
But those are the things that are making me very concerned about doing this when you're

772
01:06:20,820 --> 01:06:25,740
getting the information that you don't have to follow certain rules, but then the information

773
01:06:25,740 --> 01:06:27,360
we're receiving is that we do.

774
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:34,800
And then when we get the money, it's not on our backs, it's on the entire taxpayers' backs,

775
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:37,540
and we can't put them in jeopardy.

776
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,180
I think you understand that as a taxpayer.

777
01:06:40,180 --> 01:06:46,360
there. Well, I totally understand that you can't, but I don't see it. I mean, to be honest

778
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:53,740
with the I seen a risk, I can't see, you know, I can't see anything that you can't write

779
01:06:53,740 --> 01:06:59,400
a contract and transfer that risk to us. Well, let's, I think, let's move forward with

780
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:04,240
the legislation just so we've got that opinion that we're moving forward and we're ready to

781
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:11,260
role, but I think we've got a lot of good things. A lot of it is on your side of it to

782
01:07:11,260 --> 01:07:15,200
talk to the people you're talking about and get it right and it has to be the people,

783
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:21,660
the decision makers in that office. But if we, my crazy Eric, if I say that if we get

784
01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:26,280
decision makers in that office to give us those things in writing, that we're very comfortable

785
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:33,140
moving forward. That would go a long way to swaging some of the county's concerns. We'll

786
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:39,760
have to, of course, try to reconcile the written documents once we get them. So I don't want to say it's a silver bullet, but

787
01:07:40,340 --> 01:07:44,840
just exactly, as you said, if somebody is seeing something to one person,

788
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,000
saying something different to a different person, very hard to

789
01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:53,740
rely on that, particularly when we're talking about a million dollars of taxpayer money.

790
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:01,720
So I don't think it's a perfect fix, but I think we have some paths here, and at least we're being proactive

791
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,580
to move something in the right direction is how I see it.

792
01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:09,140
I just see you getting more value for the money

793
01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:11,260
by transferring it to you.

794
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,020
In my opinion, that's just the way I see it.

795
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,700
Because like I say, we just have all these rules

796
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:18,940
that we have to follow and you wouldn't have to do that.

797
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:24,320
And I am concerned because the first meeting we had

798
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,740
and Will can attest to this, cat was like a deer in the headlight.

799
01:08:28,740 --> 01:08:33,020
But she had no answers for anything, and she had to call in her boss who we never did

800
01:08:33,020 --> 01:08:33,760
get to meet.

801
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:36,020
And then she had specific answers.

802
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,800
So I am a little cautious about what they tell you in a way.

803
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:46,060
But again, it would go a long ways if you could get them to say, you don't have to follow

804
01:08:46,060 --> 01:08:48,900
any of our procurement rules, you don't have to, whatever.

805
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,820
If it was built on the fairgrounds, now that's my question to you.

806
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,680
So now they want to alter the grandstands in that.

807
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:04,080
They can't just go and do that without it being prevailing wage and going under our procurement in that case, right?

808
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,760
That would, yeah, that's something that I'd like to just make sure I can quote

809
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:14,260
chapter and verse rather than speaking extemporaneously on. So that's something that will add to the list and see if

810
01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:21,500
you can get a firm answer. I don't want to say something that turns out to be 90% right and then therefore 100% wrong.

811
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:26,420
But if it's a capital improvement on the fairgrounds, it has to follow in my opinion the rules

812
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,900
That we have to follow

813
01:09:28,900 --> 01:09:34,500
The infrastructure. Yeah, no, I think we need to double check all this

814
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:35,900
But if we got

815
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,480
Assurances by the the state of this grant and these are the rules

816
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:46,460
Yeah, then then it's out of our hands now like I said, I just want to use the money as best as we can and

817
01:09:47,770 --> 01:09:53,170
and how do we get more money for 100 to 150,000 coming to Kirk County I'm

818
01:09:53,170 --> 01:09:58,770
trying to avoid but I also and when I when you sent me that thing about who was

819
01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:03,170
going to sign for the grant I sent it to our finance department because that

820
01:10:03,170 --> 01:10:07,770
would have been who would have been in charge of it so that information was

821
01:10:07,770 --> 01:10:13,390
correct at the time but we hadn't even seen the grant yet was when the grant came

822
01:10:13,390 --> 01:10:14,770
out the questions arose.

823
01:10:16,490 --> 01:10:16,930
Okay.

824
01:10:17,390 --> 01:10:21,690
So I think we're going to, what I'd like to see is, let's move forward with the legislation.

825
01:10:22,810 --> 01:10:26,330
Give you the, what the information we're going off of.

826
01:10:26,650 --> 01:10:32,930
You can use that to call your contacts and explain to them what the hiccups are and if they can

827
01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:37,390
give us assurances that those are problems, we'll have to see who that is and that they're

828
01:10:37,390 --> 01:10:38,110
the right person.

829
01:10:38,230 --> 01:10:39,830
But I think there's opportunity here.

830
01:10:43,530 --> 01:10:50,150
I think I heard you say earlier that to go the legislative route, they needed a letter of support from the county.

831
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:59,230
We need to do a letter of support that we are supporting that we would, and because of the private entity, that we would be turning it over to you totally, basically.

832
01:10:59,530 --> 01:11:01,010
Yes, that would be what we would be.

833
01:11:01,130 --> 01:11:02,490
We need a motion to do that.

834
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:31,490
So one thing I would recommend is that before any letters signed, or we move forward with that, that we confirm that by sending that letter of support, we're not interfering with the alternative route that we've been discussing, right, like if we give them affirmative, go ahead with the legislation, I don't want that money to disappear, and then too much now being like, we got this great contract solution, but you can't get the money.

835
01:11:32,570 --> 01:11:35,810
So I just want to make sure we confirm that so I'd recommend we bring that letter back

836
01:11:35,810 --> 01:11:40,710
and maybe just have another quick discussion about any of the issues that we've kind of

837
01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:42,350
discussed today that we can get answers to.

838
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:45,950
How long will it take you to get answers?

839
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:51,450
I hate that question because it's going to take how long it takes but I do know that this

840
01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:58,770
is a high priority so my target will be to have something prepared for you guys by the

841
01:11:58,770 --> 01:11:59,850
work session next week.

842
01:11:59,850 --> 01:12:06,970
and part of what I might present is I have found the answers to some of the questions haven't

843
01:12:08,350 --> 01:12:13,370
got to a position where I'm comfortable with others or maybe I just say still working on it.

844
01:12:13,710 --> 01:12:18,650
Then Doug, do you think you could find from administrative services the answers that, you know,

845
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:21,470
that they would write down that by next week?

846
01:12:24,970 --> 01:12:26,710
Like you said that they told you you weren't

847
01:12:26,710 --> 01:12:31,850
liable for our county. So they haven't assigned anything or provide anything and writing to me while

848
01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:35,870
They're still negotiating with Kirk County and have an agreement out with Kirk County.

849
01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:44,090
So your letter is going to probably open the doors for meaty start getting things in writing other than other than I do have

850
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:49,530
the you had it on the screen, the rejection on on several of the pieces.

851
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,560
Okay. So we can't we can't go that direction.

852
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:59,660
You know, I don't know there's any reason not to reach out to them.

853
01:13:00,860 --> 01:13:05,740
And maybe they will say we're not going to commit to anything yet, but I'd encourage

854
01:13:05,740 --> 01:13:08,700
you to reach out to them and see if you can queue that up.

855
01:13:09,140 --> 01:13:12,500
If they have any sort of reservations, they might address that or that maybe they can

856
01:13:12,500 --> 01:13:17,960
say, yeah, we're happy to put it in a memo, put it in an email, have it in writing, in

857
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,080
which case, so much better.

858
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,980
I'm guessing likely they want to get this software played as much as we do.

859
01:13:24,220 --> 01:13:28,960
So I think there's value to calling them and saying, here's our couple roadblocks.

860
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,540
that we're trying to work through.

861
01:13:31,020 --> 01:13:33,480
If we can get through these, we're ready to roll, let's go.

862
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,400
And so maybe that might get them going.

863
01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:44,490
Okay, well I have a meeting on the 12th with the other tracks to talk about how,

864
01:13:44,810 --> 01:13:53,310
and the Racing Commission to talk about how they're proceeding, and we sit here

865
01:13:53,310 --> 01:13:56,030
and talk about the concept of a million dollars.

866
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:58,710
are you counting hasn't ran in four years?

867
01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:00,070
No.

868
01:14:00,390 --> 01:14:02,390
Doesn't own a starting gate,

869
01:14:02,530 --> 01:14:04,510
doesn't even have a rail on the racetrack.

870
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:06,290
They have a little bit of work to do,

871
01:14:06,450 --> 01:14:08,170
so the twelfth is on a Saturday.

872
01:14:08,290 --> 01:14:09,710
They put the risk, they're taking,

873
01:14:09,930 --> 01:14:11,750
that they have to run in,

874
01:14:11,890 --> 01:14:12,410
and

875
01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:18,930
we're sitting here worried about what if.

876
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,260
You know, the thing that I found very interesting

877
01:14:24,260 --> 01:14:27,060
is in talking to the commissioners of the other counties,

878
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,960
the lack of knowledge they even have about this grant.

879
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:36,500
But tell them, look, three commissioners, two of them going to be upcoming, along with

880
01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:38,960
the other, what are you talking about?

881
01:14:39,340 --> 01:14:43,300
That's kind of some of the questions that I found was very interesting and going around.

882
01:14:44,020 --> 01:14:48,060
And anyway, but you're meeting with them on the 12th on a Saturday then?

883
01:14:49,420 --> 01:14:56,360
It's the Tuesday before the commission meeting, and I thought, so you're talking about the

884
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:56,960
8th then?

885
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,820
Now the Commission meeting at Beathin.

886
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,920
You're talking a racing commission, not a commission. I want a commission. Okay. And so they're meeting on the 15th. Okay.

887
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:21,120
The commission meets on the 7th. Well, if we can have those answers by next week, then I think we could go ahead and form a little bit more of a plan.

888
01:15:21,260 --> 01:15:29,520
Can you call them between now and next Wednesday? I talked to them on a regular basis. Yeah. And just get an idea. Like I say, I just want you to have the more.

889
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:36,160
I think giving you control and giving you that gives you more money in my opinion and it also

890
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:43,220
relieves us of taxpayers. And understand I've quit doing working on this thing for the most part

891
01:15:43,220 --> 01:15:49,480
because I can't proceed with engineering, I can't hire a surveyor, I can't know. There's not a

892
01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:56,940
project that we can proceed with other than what we have already proceeded with. And so just think

893
01:15:56,940 --> 01:16:01,320
about just that you can hire a survey or you can't do this but if the money was in your

894
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:09,760
possession. That's why I asked for the county to find a way to do it now instead of January because

895
01:16:10,420 --> 01:16:15,160
I can then you can start giving. I can I could hire a survey or have the stakes in place right in

896
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:22,600
RFP have somebody that's a fence builder come fix that rail so it's in place for 2027 instead of

897
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:28,820
being hung up where I am now with the possibility that in 2027 I'm still going to have horses that

898
01:16:28,820 --> 01:16:33,880
can't run around that corner. Which is what I want for you, Doug, really? I'm just trying to get

899
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:40,140
the most in again. That's my question. Is there a way that we can take it and pass it on, which is

900
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:45,440
what I think Eric is going to find out? So next Wednesday, since you won't know where we're going to

901
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:50,500
be, we're going to be over at the Brown Building at the next to the sandwich factory where our offices

902
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:56,280
is used to be in that back conference room. Can you come and and be there?

903
01:16:56,420 --> 01:17:01,280
Well, I should be able to have to look at look at my calendar. It's not very busy, but

904
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,800
okay, tell the staff. Tell the cows they can go out and grace one day. You don't have to come.

905
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:11,680
You, uh, it's my frustration. I have two things that involved the county. This one is now

906
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:22,480
every or what March, April or June, July, August, September. We're five months four months into it.

907
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,500
I've got a building permit for my son.

908
01:17:25,780 --> 01:17:32,160
I've been out two years now trying to get a building permit that got held up over action.

909
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,340
The commission needed to do and yesterday I got this I'm a farmer.

910
01:17:36,340 --> 01:17:46,400
I've got about 110 acres in that parcel and I had to sign under duress a non-remonstrous agreement

911
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:52,020
that says I as a farmer won't sue myself and I got to pay the county clerk $99.

912
01:17:52,020 --> 01:18:03,820
$99 to re-record it, and I'm sitting here watching Crit County saying, okay, well, here we are five months into this and we still can't make a decision.

913
01:18:04,660 --> 01:18:10,500
Well, I'd like to talk to you. I mean, we can talk right now about those things, but that seems ridiculous.

914
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:11,880
I'm getting frustrated.

915
01:18:12,580 --> 01:18:13,620
I did away through this.

916
01:18:13,820 --> 01:18:18,560
I had, I kept running into comments from Josephine County,

917
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,840
from Harnie County, from Tellama County,

918
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:23,300
that Eric was calling them,

919
01:18:23,420 --> 01:18:25,160
trying to talk them into supporting,

920
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,460
changing, going back to the legislature

921
01:18:27,460 --> 01:18:29,960
and changing the law so it would allow restrooms.

922
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:35,580
There was some back room stuff going on on this

923
01:18:35,580 --> 01:18:37,100
that has just been frustrating.

924
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,720
And I'm sitting here today saying,

925
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:39,700
okay, make a decision.

926
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:46,920
Let's get it going one way or the other, sure, but I think we have I think we have a good path on this part of it

927
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,940
But I would like to talk to you about your permit and other issues

928
01:18:49,940 --> 01:18:56,120
So because I don't that that seems like a one-off to me. That's not something I hear. Oh, it's not one of I

929
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:02,220
Then that's even more important. This has been going on for a while for with Doug and there's certain parts that I

930
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:09,540
So I will. But that's that's not except that is a different. I know just trying to get you the

931
01:19:09,540 --> 01:19:15,280
value. And how do I see with Prick County is as we're sitting here where management is doing

932
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:22,580
one thing and the commissioners are thinking something else is getting done. Okay. Great.

933
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:29,440
Oh, taken. Okay. So there is no motion right now other than that you were going to pursue these

934
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:33,060
questions and we are going to probably rule on it next Wednesday then.

935
01:19:33,380 --> 01:19:36,380
Yeah, I don't think that you need a motion to give that direction.

936
01:19:36,660 --> 01:19:42,640
I think I have my March mortars and then we'll put a placeholder agenda item on the agenda

937
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:49,240
for next Wednesday. We might word Smith what exactly the title of that is but what's going to be to

938
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:56,360
revisit this potentially have a letter of support drafted and hopefully I will be able to give

939
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,560
of everybody, all the good news that you want?

940
01:19:59,500 --> 01:19:59,980
Perfect.

941
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,940
Again, this is just trying to get you the most that we can.

942
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,340
It's not picking on horse racing at all.

943
01:20:08,020 --> 01:20:11,040
And then, hopefully, we'll also hear whether the Oregon

944
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,340
Racing Commission, or DAS, or whoever,

945
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,300
is willing to put into writing that they

946
01:20:16,300 --> 01:20:19,860
would allow this grant agreement to be directly

947
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:23,060
awarded over to the Cricket River Roundup at that meeting

948
01:20:23,060 --> 01:20:25,880
on Wednesday, and that will inform

949
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,580
on what it is that the county wants to do?

950
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,580
Yeah, as soon as you get any information

951
01:20:30,580 --> 01:20:32,360
that you're going to get, would you send it to us?

952
01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:35,160
So we can go through it and make sure we're ready

953
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:35,540
at Wednesday.

954
01:20:37,020 --> 01:20:37,540
Thank you.

955
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,840
I guess my question would be back to Doug asking me

956
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,400
at the beginning, who would, if we do sign this

957
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,440
over to Crooked River, then we would be changing

958
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:50,160
who actually would accept this money.

959
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,060
Like the money's here.

960
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,940
Money's in a wagon outside.

961
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,480
Would it go straight to Crooked River?

962
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:58,060
and they're unloading it, or would it have to be,

963
01:20:58,340 --> 01:21:00,000
you could understand kind of my question there.

964
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,480
Yes, and that would depend on what it is that DAS

965
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:06,460
or Oregon Racing Commissioner, whoever the decision-maker is,

966
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,620
actually says, if they say that the county does not need

967
01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:13,140
to be the intermediary, we can just give this grant

968
01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:17,060
to Cricket River Roundup, then they would be the signer

969
01:21:17,060 --> 01:21:19,500
and the county would not be involved, except as you noticed,

970
01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:23,660
the Fairboard would be involved if there's any sort of improvements

971
01:21:23,660 --> 01:21:26,260
at the fair grounds, because that's their statutory responsibility.

972
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:28,700
So that's one possibility.

973
01:21:29,140 --> 01:21:35,900
If what DAS says is, well, they can be involved, but the county still has to be the signer

974
01:21:35,900 --> 01:21:40,940
of the grant agreement and ultimately responsible for non-performance, well, then the county

975
01:21:40,940 --> 01:21:45,260
would sign and there would have to be some sort of connective tissue to the cricket river

976
01:21:45,260 --> 01:21:45,700
roundup.

977
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:53,020
So a lot's going to depend on what it is that DAS actually says to Mr. Smith and, again,

978
01:21:53,020 --> 01:21:55,160
and hopefully we'll get that answer in writing very soon.

979
01:21:55,780 --> 01:21:58,160
And you note those two questions,

980
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,840
because those are really important differences

981
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,360
in what the answer is.

982
01:22:02,620 --> 01:22:04,180
That will be an amen.

983
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:05,020
Perfect.

984
01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:08,600
And I have been told that cannot,

985
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,560
we can't do that without a legislative fix,

986
01:22:11,780 --> 01:22:14,640
because that's why Union County is going back

987
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,660
for a legislative fix to take fair grounds out of it

988
01:22:18,660 --> 01:22:21,100
and put it into whatever they call that other place.

989
01:22:22,340 --> 01:22:28,340
Eastern Oregon, yes. Okay. That and that here is where I hang my hook on is that I've

990
01:22:28,340 --> 01:22:33,240
been told no. Yeah, and I hope the answer would be yes because I would sign it tomorrow,

991
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:39,100
but. And if we get the answer that the FDA asks is willing to do that for approach county,

992
01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:46,340
then there's no harm in letting you can count, you know, because you know, as you guys have

993
01:22:46,340 --> 01:22:51,040
I've observed sometimes with the institution of the state of Oregon, the left hand does

994
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,820
not know what the left hand is even doing, let alone the right hand.

995
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:59,020
And my information is from last Tuesday, were we in Ontario last Tuesday?

996
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:06,100
Yeah, last Tuesday sitting across from one of their commissioners that they still were having

997
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:10,080
to go for a legislative change to change the location.

998
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,080
So that's why I'm not, you know, I've asked about it again, and that's why I'm concerned

999
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:20,360
I can't believe they told you that because that isn't the way I've been told.

1000
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,900
So there's a significant difference between union and a grant.

1001
01:23:28,580 --> 01:23:31,160
So the Union County Fairgrounds is in a grant.

1002
01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:31,660
Yes.

1003
01:23:32,380 --> 01:23:37,580
The grant was written to Union County for work on the fairgrounds.

1004
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,920
The problem is they aren't going to do any work on the fairgrounds.

1005
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,540
They're going to get over where the race is on the Easter Lord.

1006
01:23:44,540 --> 01:23:56,980
Yes, stock show grounds, which is owned by the Eastern organ livestock show. So there is no county ownership in the facilities in our situation for county owns the ground.

1007
01:23:58,140 --> 01:23:59,800
Sure, the private entity.

1008
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:00,860
We're moving to see.

1009
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,640
But what are the people that put on the horse racing?

1010
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,880
Maybe if that was made more apparent to I thought we made that apparent.

1011
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,740
but maybe that would be out of cat under cat understands that the racing

1012
01:24:14,740 --> 01:24:20,680
commission totally understands that okay and we totally understand that we

1013
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:25,600
have to work through the fairgrounds okay right we've done that for quite a

1014
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:30,420
few that's 1972 and we gave the fairgrounds to the county we've had to work

1015
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:35,560
through the fairgrounds in order to do physical improvements we understand it okay

1016
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:35,620
Okay.

1017
01:24:36,700 --> 01:24:37,100
Perfect.

1018
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:37,880
That's helpful.

1019
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,280
Thank you.

1020
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:40,240
Okay.

1021
01:24:42,620 --> 01:24:43,440
Thank you, Doug.

1022
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,340
Thank you, Laura, for being here.

1023
01:24:47,380 --> 01:24:49,460
So is there any action that we need to make?

1024
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:49,660
No.

1025
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,640
I think we need to wait till Eric finds the answers to these questions.

1026
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,840
And then, hopefully, we just move forward and get this offer plate.

1027
01:24:56,180 --> 01:24:56,320
Yeah.

1028
01:24:56,340 --> 01:25:01,800
I think the only action is to add something to the agenda for next week, which will be some

1029
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:02,900
sort of update for me.

1030
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:04,860
Hopefully, I'll give you good news.

1031
01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:19,140
And also in the meanwhile, we can work on some sort of letter of support, which if at that meeting the county wants to move forward with that, then you can review the terms and decide to approve it then.

1032
01:25:20,980 --> 01:25:26,760
Okay. Okay, we have Brianna here, so she's already noting this on agenda. Okay, perfect. Okay.

1033
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,340
Well, manager's report.

1034
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:30,780
Just a quick note.

1035
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:33,720
Mostly for the public.

1036
01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:36,800
Our GIS department has moved to the courthouse.

1037
01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:37,860
This welcome.

1038
01:25:39,860 --> 01:25:43,960
Lord and public to know that this will allow GIS to go more

1039
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:44,780
centrally located.

1040
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:50,020
closer to their customers, including the development department.

1041
01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:51,780
It seems to find out better.

1042
01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:54,000
Also gives them a better work and space.

1043
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:55,180
So where are they?

1044
01:25:55,180 --> 01:25:56,520
They're on the second floor.

1045
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,160
Very by the bathrooms.

1046
01:26:00,060 --> 01:26:00,600
By the way.

1047
01:26:01,460 --> 01:26:01,640
Okay.

1048
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:03,400
The whole it goes back in there.

1049
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,000
Okay.

1050
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:05,620
Second floor to courthouse.

1051
01:26:07,460 --> 01:26:10,060
And I think that's all I have for you this morning.

1052
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,060
I don't think you can.

1053
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,120
Yes, Labor Day.

1054
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,700
On Mondays for County offices will be closed.

1055
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,020
In honor of Labor Day.

1056
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:21,380
Thank you.

1057
01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:25,120
Okay, also I show back when we were having fun.

1058
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:31,720
hopefully they're all out now. Stephanie Kale, who is Director of Talent Management for

1059
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:38,000
Cascade, Hastin, so the Bee's International Reality called me and they wanted to do something

1060
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:44,700
for basically the firefighters, local, or whatever. So I gave her Shawna Holland's number

1061
01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:50,780
because she's the one that kind of works with our community and they decided to go ahead

1062
01:26:50,780 --> 01:26:58,460
and to support the post-Polina range land fire protection agency.

1063
01:26:59,580 --> 01:27:03,360
And they got a hold of Melissa Hartzel, who's a vice president out there,

1064
01:27:03,580 --> 01:27:08,740
and they went ahead and they donated body wipes and all kinds of things.

1065
01:27:08,740 --> 01:27:12,760
There's a picture of the stuff which was very, very gracious of them to do.

1066
01:27:13,260 --> 01:27:15,500
They felt that that way they were helping us.

1067
01:27:15,660 --> 01:27:20,140
And in these last two fires, Coyote and Henry, there was only really 20 of us

1068
01:27:20,140 --> 01:27:24,460
and we had to split because we had two fires, which hopefully we don't have that again.

1069
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:29,820
And so it was very well appreciated and I want to thank them for their support of our

1070
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:31,320
agency.

1071
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:33,420
Right.

1072
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:40,560
So I've been working with Mark once, the Commissioner and Jefferson County with all these fires

1073
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:41,160
coming through.

1074
01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:48,000
I think we need to start looking at some letters of support to reduce regulations and rules

1075
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:59,280
on private landowners to be able to get their properties cleaned out to cut trees working

1076
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:06,700
with the tax code and rules are for tree removal. I want to throw out there that my family

1077
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:12,400
does have property, but this is something that will help all of the entire state of Oregon

1078
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:19,300
that was affected by the fires, and so I just think that's something we can do for our citizens

1079
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:26,720
is talk with the legislature and work to get some kind of carve-outs for major events like this

1080
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:33,620
to not to expedite the process and be able to get the wood off the forest as soon as possible.

1081
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,460
So more to come.

1082
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:49,600
And on a personal level, we definitely need to work out a little bit more smoother land use agreements for property owners that are affected during the fire and afterwards for stuff that is went on with their property.

1083
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:56,140
I don't think that that should be a big fight. So that's a that's on a personal level, but yes.

1084
01:28:56,140 --> 01:29:01,630
All right. Any public comment to wrap it up?

1085
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:07,950
Anybody online? Want to weigh in?

1086
01:29:16,930 --> 01:29:18,830
Okay, we're going to go to executive session.

1087
01:29:21,490 --> 01:29:22,610
Pretty quick one, right?

1088
01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:33,150
Do you mind sticking around ducks so I can hear your issues with the planning department? Sure, probably be 10, 15 minutes.

1089
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:36,030
You guys stay in here. You're going to have to go.

1090
01:29:36,030 --> 01:29:39,350
So thank you, guys, for coming today.

1091
01:29:41,330 --> 01:29:42,430
What have you done?

1092
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:50,740
The County Board of Commissioners will now meet an executive session under ORS192-6602-E

1093
01:29:50,740 --> 01:29:54,900
to conduct deliberations with persons designated by the government body to negotiate real

1094
01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:55,740
property transactions.

1095
01:29:56,460 --> 01:29:59,840
Representing the news media designated staff shall be allowed to attend the executive session.

1096
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,020
Local members of the IHS live in the room. Representatives in the news meetings specifically are specifically directing

1097
01:30:05,020 --> 01:30:09,580
not to report any deliberations during the executive session except the state, the general

1098
01:30:09,580 --> 01:30:14,020
subject, the session is previously announced. No decision may be made in the executive

1099
01:30:14,020 --> 01:30:17,120
session. At the end of the executive session, we returned to open session, walking the

1100
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:17,900
audience back in the room.

1101
01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:22,260
The correct county board of commissioners will now leave

1102
01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:31,800
executive session on ORS19266 or 2E to conduct deliberations with persons designated by the

1103
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,320
We're allowed to attend the executive session.

1104
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:35,660
All the members of the audience are absolutely

1105
01:30:35,660 --> 01:30:36,080
representative.

1106
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:37,960
The news media are specifically directed

1107
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,320
not to report any deliberations during the executive session.

1108
01:30:40,420 --> 01:30:41,760
It's set up to state the general subject

1109
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,040
of the session's previously announced.

1110
01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:46,100
No decision was made in the executive session.

1111
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:47,660
We will now return to open session work

1112
01:30:47,660 --> 01:30:48,640
and the audience back in the room.

1113
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,860
Hey audience, come back in the room.

1114
01:30:52,060 --> 01:30:52,460
No, dear.

1115
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,080
I didn't realize it.

1116
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,940
Okay. I would like to make a motion

1117
01:30:56,940 --> 01:31:05,920
that we approve preparation of what is it we're approving the listing agreement.

1118
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,380
Second, any discussion? No. All those in favor?

1119
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:10,980
Henry Kai.

1120
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:11,760
Crawford Eye.

1121
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:12,460
Martin Ann.

1122
01:31:13,300 --> 01:31:15,200
I entertain a motion adjourn.

1123
01:31:15,420 --> 01:31:16,680
I make a motion to adjourn.

1124
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:17,820
Second, the discussion?

1125
01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:19,340
No. All those in favor?

1126
01:31:19,580 --> 01:31:19,760
Aye.

1127
01:31:20,500 --> 01:31:20,880
Henry Kai.

1128
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:21,560
Crawford Eye.