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All right, welcome to our August 19th
combination work session and regular

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combination work session and regular
meeting.

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We'll do the pledge at the start of the
regular meeting,

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which is estimated to be at around 7 PM.

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And we'll start with our work session
items.

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So the first is an update from the chair
of our Sustainability Committee,

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Lindsay Auden, on battery energy storage
systems and our RFI process for them.

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Okay, the host has disabled my use of
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Update that for him, please.

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Sorry, Lindsay, one minute.

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Okay, Lindsey, you should be able

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to do it now.

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Okay, let's see what happens here.

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Okay, hold on, one more step.

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Just make that full screen so people can
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One second here. Here we are.

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Okay, you should be seeing my title

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slide.

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Yes.

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Good. Okay. All right, here we go.

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Thank you very much for the opportunity to
present to Croton Village Board of

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Trustees on the results of the August
request for information to developers of

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battery energy storage systems,
hereinafter known as BESS for short. Okay.

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In July, we assembled a list of best
developers and compiled that from a

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developers and compiled that from a
variety of

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sources, including a list from NYSERDA,
the New York State Energy Office,

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that listed the approved energy storage
contractors.

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We also went to the professional
association of the—

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of battery companies called BEST, Battery
Energy Storage Technology Consortium.

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And also, I have my own professional
contacts in the energy industry.

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many, many, many others.

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We found a total of 50 different firms,
identified them,

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and then initial contacts were made to
verify their statuses.

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And in so doing, we had to eliminate 21 of
them for various reasons.

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In some cases, they had been merged with
or acquired other best firms,

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or they were simply no longer in business,

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or they weren't doing business in the
United States,

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or they just failed to respond to multiple
efforts to communicate,

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including telephone, email, LinkedIn,
blah, blah.

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Which generally indicated that they
probably weren't really in business

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probably weren't really in business
anyway.

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Now, the draft RFI was assembled and
approved by the village manager.

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This was in July. It was distributed to
the remaining 29 vendors out of the 50 on

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August 3rd, with responses due August
17th, which was last Monday.

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Of that group, 6 vendors provided full
responses by the deadline.

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3 others bounced back as undeliverable, so
we— as far as we're concerned,

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they're not in business.

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And the other 20 didn't respond at all and
did not bounce back.

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I expect most of that is due to the fact
that they are firms that primarily do

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larger projects than what we're interested
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We had asked them if they would do
projects between 2 and 5 megawatts.

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Most of the companies in this business are
doing work at the utility-scale level,

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which is 5 to 10 times larger.

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So, I think they probably looked at us as
small potato and didn't bother.

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Based on experience, we had expected about
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so getting 6 was a success. Any questions
before I go on?

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No.

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Okay. So, let's look at the 6 responders.

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In alphabetical order, they are Luminase,
Microgrid Networks, New Lake Energy,

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Nine Dot Energy, Orenda Power, and RIC
Energy.

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And I'm sure you've never heard of any of
them.

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Suffice to say that all are well known in
the industry.

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You know, it's not the biggest industry in
the world.

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And they are actively developing projects
in our region and/or in New York City.

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One of them presently has 3 5-megawatt
battery energy storage systems operating

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battery energy storage systems operating
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Westchester County. Let's see, Hawthorne,
Yorktown, and Ossining.

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Others have other things being developed
in other areas,

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primarily in the city of New York. So we
have our 6 responders.

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They are backed up by a variety of
different financial firms.

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Primarily, they're all, you know,

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either startups or companies that are
still in the private capital region,

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so they have support from organizations
like Blackstone, Brookfield,

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and others that you've probably heard, you
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do private equity for a variety of other
smaller companies.

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So the next steps, now that we've got 6
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Next thing I gotta do is summarize the
responses to the RFIs in Word and Excel,

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and that'll be compiled by Labor Day,

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and I'll have that then ready for review
by the village manager.

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Then, because now we have 6 interested,
I'm going to draft a request for

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I'm going to draft a request for
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RFP. I'll assemble that and try to get
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responses by mid-October.

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If we hadn't gotten any responses to the
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I wouldn't have bothered to do the RFP. So
I thought I'd wait till the RFI was done.

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Instead of wasting my time on something
that wouldn't go anywhere.

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If any of the best projects are proposed
as a result of the RFP in the middle of

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October, the sites and proposals that
they're discussing will be reviewed by

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they're discussing will be reviewed by
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officials and checked for their
feasibility.

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If any are acceptable, public discussion
will then be initiated as desired.

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If they want to have public meetings or,
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whatever you want to do,

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we'll have at least something there to
bite on and have people will discuss.

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That's basically the story. Thank you for
your time and attention.

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I'm open for any questions, comments, or
whatever.

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Thank you, Lindsay.

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Thank you.

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Great, great, great presentation, Lindsay.
Just a real quick question.

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Once we get to the RFP process— and I
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so thanks, thanks for that as well— but
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once we get to the RFP process,

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will the RFP That goes to them include a
listing of eligible public parcels?

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After Bryan Healy and I go through and
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it's like he gave me a list of like
70-some-odd properties.

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I know a bunch of them aren't going to
make it right away.

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We have to look at which ones are zoned
properly and all the rest of that.

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That's the chunk of work between now and
the middle of September.

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I figure there's going to be probably
somewhere between 5 and 10 that might make

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somewhere between 5 and 10 that might make
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The rest are either too close to homes or
whatever.

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And yes, there'll be a list of the
properties and also The, um, uh,

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whatever that tax number is that you need
to look it up on the site at the county to

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see exactly what the boundaries are and
all that stuff.

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They'll be sent that list that's been
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and then they will look at them and
they'll either come up with proposals or

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they'll either come up with proposals or
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say they're all too small or they're all
too wet or whatever and come back to us.

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And just a quick follow-up,

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and that sounds like a good approach on
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In the RFP, will you,

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or should we include a ballpark figure for
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in terms of annual rental fees?

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I don't think that's wise.

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We already have a pretty good idea based
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and I can give you that number where it
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County. The going rate is approximately
$30,000 a year. per megawatt.

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So if you had a 5-megawatt installation,

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you should be expecting that they'll offer
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If not, they're screwing around with us.

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So that's a ballpark, and I'm hoping it'll
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Right.

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And so we would expect them to,

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to at least understand what the ballpark
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maybe try to wow us, but maybe at least
come in at the ballpark level.

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If they don't, you know, we're not
required to do anything.

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We can drop this thing, come back later.

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It's just this way we find out if there's
anything worth fighting over.

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Very good. Thank you.

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I want to ask if it's possible for the
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goes out.

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Sure. I have to send it to Brian Healy,

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and he's got to bless it 7 different ways
to Sunday anyway,

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so I'm sure it'd be fine for you to see
that too.

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I mean, I don't have any issue with
sharing it, but generally speaking, the,

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you know, If the board has agreed to move
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it's an administrative task in actually
writing the document and publishing it.

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So I mean, we can have the conversation
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either now or later as to whether or not
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want to.

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I would like to see the parcel list.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah. I mean, we talked about that at
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I think it's going to be— I have to talk
to Lindsay about it and see,

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because there's a lot of parcels where it
simply wouldn't be possible, right?

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For example, We can't install it on
parkland because it's not right.

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It's not allowed by New York State law. So
all of those parcels come out.

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You know, we can't install it at the
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firehouses because those buildings are
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much— those parcels are pretty much taken
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So we have to go through the list, which
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and narrow it down so I can report back as
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what the potential parcels are.

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I think that would be really helpful.

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Because, and thank you for doing all that
legwork.

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Because I know it's a lot of work to go
through if you're starting with 70,

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and you're ending up potentially with 10,
however the number is.

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Yeah.

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But my question is, what if there are a
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you could connect it to the utility line,
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but the board may not feel comfortable
with The location, you know,

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I'm making this up, but maybe it's in a
bit of a dense location and it's,

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it's not a location that we want to
entertain.

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Are we better off crossing it off the list
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spends time on it? Or, you know, I don't
know.

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I mean, that's really, that's really a
policy decision for, for you all to make.

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Um, you know, an RFP is, is just that,
it's a request.

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It's not— there's nothing binding about an
RFP. It's not a bid, right?

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When you do a bid, you generally have to
accept the results of the bid as long as

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it's a responsible bidder, right? That's
not the same with an RFP.

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You have full control over it.

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You could just say, you know what, we've
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we don't really want to do a BES at this
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and you don't have to move forward with
any of them.

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I mean, I get the point about not wanting
somebody to do all the work if it's

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something you're not interested in anyway.

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So, you know, that's something that you
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But, you know, I think it—

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I think what's a good thing is to have me
and Lindsay go through the list and narrow

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it down, because there, there could not—

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there could very well not be that many
parcels that we talked about before,

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like how many parcels actually could
there— correct, there,

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it may not be a high number at all.

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Yeah.

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But I would say also looking at the train
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example. That came to the board in various
permutations a number of times.

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Yeah, the expectation is that at key, at
key moments, whether it's approving,

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you know, the RFP or different— or not,
not the RFP, approving the, the,

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the selected bidder or other aspects of
it, it'll come to the board.

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Yeah, you would just move it
hypothetically through the process, right?

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You would have to vote to award the RFP,
right?

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So you'd have to select a vendor,

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and then we would have to write out a
lease agreement,

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which you would then have to approve as
well, right?

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So there's, you know, there would be
multiple times, as Trustee Simon was

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multiple times, as Trustee Simon was
saying,

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that it would come before the board. Yeah.

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Can you remind me again the zones that
this is permitted use in?

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Uh, it's RA-40, RA-60, light industrial,

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And central commercial.

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So central commercial is C2.

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Okay,

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any other

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questions,

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comments,

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things?

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No, just thanks. Thanks so much.

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Thank you.

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Very enlightening and promising as well.

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We'll see. The last time we did this for
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it took almost a year to get to anything
close to a contract.

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So, you know, this may be a while before
we talk again.

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Anyway, I think it would be helpful to
have a site visit for the Board of

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have a site visit for the Board of
Trustees

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to go and visit. some of the buses that
are out there, Lindsay, that you had

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are out there, Lindsay, that you had
shared,

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whether in Ossining or, you know, just to
look at them.

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And I know one is in it in the church.

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No, it's behind— it's behind St.

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Augustine's Church in Ossining, just over
the border from Croton.

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It's like 5 minutes from here.

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Lindsay, would our own be comparable in
terms of just taking a look at it?

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At the train station.

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Um, yeah, it should be.

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Um, I've got aerial views of all the
others that are existing, and, uh,

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they all look pretty much the same,
though.

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Um, the other ones, the ones that I
mentioned, are, um, pretty much surrounded

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mentioned, are, um, pretty much surrounded
by,

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uh, like, uh, open space. One is near the
river.

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You know, they're, they're not nearly as
urbanized, if you will,

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as the one at the train station.

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Yeah, that— and I guess looking at your
maps again would be helpful,

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just revisiting that,

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looking at what is out there and How much
space is typically around these areas,

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you know, because we are getting a bit
more dense in the light industrial and the

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C-2 areas here in Croton. So, you know, I
don't know. But I'll do that.

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I'll go back and just kind of look at the
aerial shots of the examples you shared

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just to see how much surrounding space is
open, kind of open space around these.

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So—

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The one behind the church was going to be
a soccer field,

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and then for whatever reason they decided
not to do the soccer field,

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so they just plopped it right in the
middle and there's still a lot of empty

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middle and there's still a lot of empty
space.

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I know the guy down at St. Augustine, so
that's the easiest one to get to.

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So if you ever want to set something up,
you know,

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pick a time like a month in advance or
something, and I'm sure we can work it

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something, and I'm sure we can work it
out.

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Thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate
it.

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Okay, thank you all very much. And I guess
I'll say good night then.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Bye-bye now.

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All right. And next is a presentation on
the use of principally

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license plate reading cameras by the
Croton-on-Hudson Police

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Department.

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All right, hello everyone. Nice to see you
all.

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Chief and Detective,

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would you mind introducing yourselves for
the folks watching online?

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I'm John Nicotopoulos, Croton-on-Hudson
Police Chief.

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Along with me is Detective Mark Fielding
of this department.

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We're going to give you a little
presentation on the license plate readers

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presentation on the license plate readers
that we

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currently have and maybe future sites if
you're interested,

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but the main thing is to talk about the
license plate readers that are currently

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license plate readers that are currently
up.

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I brought Detective Fielding with me
because he is part of the RTC,

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which we have been part of for the last 8
or 10 years.

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Real Time Crime Center.

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Excuse me.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Which is run by the county.

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Mark goes down there once a week,
generally on Monday,

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and he puts and time and assist down
there.

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He has access to the cameras down there
because he's part of the RTC.

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The cameras we currently have are
stationed at Croton Point Avenue and

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stationed at Croton Point Avenue and
Riverside

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Avenue, and Municipal and Riverside
Avenue.

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They're the 2 sites that are currently up.

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These cameras are used strictly for crime
analysis and solving crimes.

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The LPR license plate reader is basically
fixed to take a picture of the license

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plate. We really can't see who's operating
the car.

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The cameras are set up to take pictures of
the license plates,

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which helps us with investigation.

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So we did send you a study or, you know,
something that Mark put together together,

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which you have on the screen.

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And this has assisted us in numerous
cases, and some serious ones,

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throughout the crime, and, and some,

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even some little ones that turned into
bigger crimes, really.

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Uh, so I will let Mark, uh, go through the
study with you and explain to it,

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and then we have a couple of little
comments that we put together after the

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comments that we put together after the
fact.

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Okay.

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All right. Thank you.

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Good evening. Um, I understand there's
obviously some growing concerns about

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obviously some growing concerns about
privacy

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and data retention and things of that
nature.

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Um, so I just want to clarify that the
cameras that we use are not Flock cameras.

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Okay, it's not a private company that
manages data of where people are driving.

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This is all managed by the Westchester
County Police,

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and it's in the hands of law enforcement.

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Um, It's—

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the data is also stored there, so it's not
like some cloud.

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This is, this is all stored there.

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No third party has access to it, um, and
only local police officers can access it,

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only local, local law enforcement.

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And like the chief said, uh, it—

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the cameras take pictures of license
plates and vehicles.

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They're not taking pictures of your face
as you're driving.

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Um, it's just, it's, it's for vehicles.

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Not even every Croton officer accesses the
system.

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It's just, you know, investigative
purposes only.

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These—

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we've been using these cameras since
before Croton even had them installed in

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Croton. We've been using the countywide
system. They've helped us solve crimes.

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It's, it's, it's countless.

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I, I will say that every investigation I
conduct in some way, shape,

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or form We're at least checking LPRs,

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whether they're in Croton or on the way
south to New York City.

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They're always looked at.

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They've helped us solve larcenies,
burglaries, hit-and-runs, sexual assaults,

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organized retail theft, scams, fraud,
stolen vehicles, narcotics, missing

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stolen vehicles, narcotics, missing
persons.

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We've had missing person cases where
they're not missing from Croton,

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they're missing from elsewhere.

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That's right.

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And they're detected in Croton.

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So just to give you an idea of like the
network and how it works,

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there's been times where suspect vehicles
from other agencies are detected in

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Croton. Croton has assisted and our
officers have stopped the vehicle.

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And whether it be identifying occupants or
it's a stolen car, it gets impounded.

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There's, there's, there's so many things.

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Obviously, I have sent A list of some case
studies which we could talk about

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momentarily. I also want to clarify that
license plate readers are not automatic

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probable cause for an arrest.

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I've seen cases where there's reports—
again, I'm not there,

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I don't know what's happening—

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where somebody was wrongfully accused
based on a license plate reader detection

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based on a license plate reader detection
from

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Flock camera. I don't know if I
necessarily think that is accurate.

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I mean, who knows what we're being told
because we're not there.

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I But you don't know who's driving that
vehicle.

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A license plate detection is an
investigative lead.

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It's no different than other types of
investigative tools that we have,

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like a criminal history search, a TLO
report.

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There's things that we can use to develop
information, and that's what this is.

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This is just— it leads us to the next step
in the investigation.

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And like I said, we've had countless cases
that these have been instrumental in

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solving for us. Um, do we— do you want to
go through each case study, or—

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Well, for the public, maybe a few, or, you
know, just so they— That's a good idea.

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So I'll go through, and the ones that I
think should be highlighted, you know,

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pointing out that the—

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that whole document is part of our agenda
for tonight for people that want to follow

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up.

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Um, in the fall of 2024, we had a missing
juvenile.

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Um, we used a nearby LPR camera to
identify,

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identify a vehicle that arrived to pick up
a food order that we, that we saw, um,

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the juvenile ordered.

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So we were able to identify the vehicle,
uh,

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based on LPRs at the time it arrived for
the food order pickup.

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Um, and we located the missing juvenile.

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So again, that's— Obviously every missing
juvenile incident is taken very serious.

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Um, oh, this was, uh, the Gouveia property
window damage.

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Um, you guys have all read through this, I
assume?

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Yeah.

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Okay. Um, for, for those that weren't
working here, uh, in the summer of 2022,

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the Gouveia windows just kept getting
broken.

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It was 3 or 4 incidents separately, um,
very extensive damage, you know,

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high dollar amount. We didn't have LPRs at
the time,

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and we used the countywide LPRs to
ultimately solve and arrest the

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ultimately solve and arrest the
perpetrators of

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that incident, those incidents.
Smash-and-grab burglary.

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LPRs were instrumental in this one.

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We were able to link it to a Similar
burglary in Secaucus.

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The vehicle that targeted our business,

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we were able to link it to a similar
burglary of the same type of business in

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Secaucus, New Jersey. That one's still
ongoing. We know who the suspects are.

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I don't know if it's going to move
forward. Nursing home burglary.

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This one is still ongoing as well,

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and I don't know if this one is going to
be closed with the rest.

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The subjects live in a different state.

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And we were able to use the license plate
readers, including Flock in this case,

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to show that the suspect vehicle not only
was in Croton at the time of the crime,

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but was in another state at the time of a—

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the time a stolen credit card was used in
that vicinity.

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So that also gives you the idea of, you
know, the network is what works.

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This one, February 2023, counterfeit
currency arrest.

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I believe this one, a known counterfeit
currency vehicle,

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someone who operates this vehicle has done
counterfeit currency incidents in the

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past, was detected by our license plate
reader.

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Which in turn led our officers to go
investigate and stop the vehicle just

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investigate and stop the vehicle just
after it

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had attempted to use counterfeit currency
in Croton.

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Turned into a pursuit, and I believe the
suspect was arrested.

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We've had a couple of these, so I'm just
not positive on that one.

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Do you get alerted when the—

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if you're looking for a suspect and he's
connected to

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a certain license plate?

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Yes.

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Do you get an alert?

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Yes. So not directly.

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These cases could be— they've committed
this offense in other jurisdictions,

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this offense in other jurisdictions,
right,

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which we would have no idea of knowing
unless you're talking to that person,

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that officer directly.

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So the alert list is through the county
system, the Real-Time Crime Center.

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So they have the alerts.

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So if somebody— like if we have an
unsolved counterfeit currency case,

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we would Send that to the Real Time Crime
Center, and which our suspect—

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we'd identify our suspect vehicle, and it
would get added to an alert list.

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And if that vehicle is detected anywhere
in the network, not FLOC,

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this is the local, you know, the
Westchester network,

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all agencies get an alert about it.

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It goes out over what's called the hotline
radio.

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Okay.

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So that's how we're involved.

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If another agency has a suspect vehicle
that's detected in Croton,

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That's how sometimes we stop the vehicle
here because we know it's here based on

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here because we know it's here based on
the

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alert.

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And a lot of these people are repeat
offenders.

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That's right. Yeah, exactly.

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Elsewhere.

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And then, you know, so we just continue to
build the case with other agencies.

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Summer of 2023, fatal motorcycle accident.

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Without really getting into details of the
accident, the—

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there was a second vehicle involved that
fled the scene.

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And using license plate reads,

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we were able to identify the suspect
vehicle that was missing a piece of its,

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you know, missing a piece of its mirror
that was found at the scene.

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So instrumental in solving this.

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Detective, I want to point out, just from
having read some of these,

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you're summarizing them, which is great,

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but there's a lot of detective work that
goes into this before you even get to the

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LPR.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, a lot. Like, just this took around 3
days of searching LPRs to find this car.

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Right.

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So there is a— and that's what I— to my
point before,

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that an LPR read is not just automatic
probable cause for an arrest.

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If your car is detected in the area during
that motorcycle accident,

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you're not going to be arrested for this
crime of leaving the scene.

454
00:26:36,007 --> 00:26:39,596
There's so much more investigative work
that goes on behind the scenes.

455
00:26:39,596 --> 00:26:41,365
This is just an investigative lead.

456
00:26:42,055 --> 00:26:44,589
And presumably in some cases, maybe a lot
of them,

457
00:26:44,589 --> 00:26:48,441
there's a lot of work that you have to do
before you even reach for the LPR.

458
00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:53,563
Yeah, I mean, that's not even including
like the investigation at the scene,

459
00:26:53,563 --> 00:26:55,180
scene processing, right?

460
00:26:55,180 --> 00:27:00,504
We're not— we're typically not opening
license plate readers before we actually

461
00:27:00,504 --> 00:27:00,774
license plate readers before we actually
know

462
00:27:00,774 --> 00:27:04,143
what we have after our investigation at
the scene.

463
00:27:04,143 --> 00:27:06,771
In certain instances, that does happen.

464
00:27:06,771 --> 00:27:12,297
If somebody fled, you know, you may want
to see where they're going because Again,

465
00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:16,004
to my point that it's not probable cause
for an arrest,

466
00:27:16,004 --> 00:27:18,834
we still have to identify who was driving.

467
00:27:18,834 --> 00:27:23,821
If a vehicle flees the scene and doesn't
get stopped before it reaches its

468
00:27:23,821 --> 00:27:29,347
destination, we may never find out who was
driving it because an argument could be

469
00:27:29,347 --> 00:27:34,604
made that, you know, this, this guy wasn't
driving that, it was somebody else,

470
00:27:34,604 --> 00:27:39,523
and we don't know because we didn't stop
them at the time it was driving.

471
00:27:39,523 --> 00:27:44,645
So typically it's best to get the alerts
out there sooner rather than later.

472
00:27:44,645 --> 00:27:48,823
So it can get stopped around the time that
the crime occurred,

473
00:27:48,823 --> 00:27:53,675
and we could identify who was involved.
Another smash-and-grab burglary.

474
00:27:53,675 --> 00:27:57,315
I believe this one was over $20,000 worth
of proceeds.

475
00:27:57,315 --> 00:28:01,762
Again, without the LPRs on this, I don't
know if this gets solved.

476
00:28:01,762 --> 00:28:07,086
This was our LPR at Croton Point Avenue
was the one that detected this vehicle.

477
00:28:07,086 --> 00:28:10,591
And again, instrumental in making an
arrest on this.

478
00:28:10,591 --> 00:28:13,219
Member of service stolen license plate.

479
00:28:13,219 --> 00:28:17,195
Someone that works here had their license
plate get stolen.

480
00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:21,171
Now typically, if you notice your license
plate is missing,

481
00:28:21,171 --> 00:28:25,012
You may not automatically assume that it's
stolen, right?

482
00:28:25,012 --> 00:28:27,708
It could have just fallen off somewhere,

483
00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:32,964
except when it's detected in an alert that
it was detected by an LPR read on a

484
00:28:32,964 --> 00:28:37,749
different car. Then you know that there's
some criminal activity afoot.

485
00:28:37,749 --> 00:28:42,871
So that happened to somebody close to home
because they're an employee here.

486
00:28:42,871 --> 00:28:44,556
So that car was detected.

487
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:49,138
Unfortunately, that was the only time the
plate was ever used again,

488
00:28:49,138 --> 00:28:52,710
and no arrest was made. We were not able
to identify—

489
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:53,015
Who was driving it.

490
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,714
the perpetrators. Stolen envelope of cash,

491
00:28:56,714 --> 00:29:01,960
our license plate reader at Municipal
Place detected that one.

492
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:08,392
Stolen vehicle, October of 2023. It was
detected traveling north on Route 9.

493
00:29:08,392 --> 00:29:14,738
And we responded out there and it drove
past us and we were able to stop it

494
00:29:14,738 --> 00:29:18,546
and close out that case for Peekskill
Police.

495
00:29:18,546 --> 00:29:22,538
Does the board want to continue going
through these?

496
00:29:22,538 --> 00:29:25,685
Or do you want to spend some time asking?

497
00:29:25,685 --> 00:29:27,819
Yeah, I mean, I think we can ask some
questions.

498
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:30,188
Yeah. Sure.

499
00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:35,552
So I mean, the police work and the, you
know,

500
00:29:35,552 --> 00:29:39,371
the need for the license plate readers, I
mean,

501
00:29:39,371 --> 00:29:43,515
from a crime-solving perspective is very
essential.

502
00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:48,310
But, you know, with the concerns of the
public for privacy,

503
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:52,697
I just want to sort of talk through that a
little bit.

504
00:29:52,697 --> 00:29:54,404
So just to reiterate,

505
00:29:54,404 --> 00:30:01,067
the system that we have our license plate
readers on is run by Westchester County,

506
00:30:01,067 --> 00:30:05,779
correct? That system is not run by a third
party, correct?

507
00:30:05,779 --> 00:30:11,386
And that system is not out there for
consumption in any way, correct?

508
00:30:11,386 --> 00:30:11,755
Correct.

509
00:30:12,735 --> 00:30:17,506
When we use Flock, right, because we don't
have Flock cameras here, but there—

510
00:30:17,506 --> 00:30:20,442
it's a network. Like, can you just explain
that?

511
00:30:20,442 --> 00:30:23,947
So, um, yeah, Flock cameras, I mean, I'm
sure you've seen the maps.

512
00:30:23,947 --> 00:30:25,098
There's a lot of them.

513
00:30:25,339 --> 00:30:25,419
Yeah.

514
00:30:25,644 --> 00:30:28,466
Um, so I personally don't have access to
Flock.

515
00:30:28,466 --> 00:30:33,090
Uh, what I, what I have to do if I need to
see if a vehicle was detected by a

516
00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:37,473
different license plate reader besides the
ones that are in West Chester,

517
00:30:37,473 --> 00:30:41,677
I have to send an official request I make
a request to other agencies,

518
00:30:41,677 --> 00:30:44,859
whether it be the State Police Crime
Analysis Center,

519
00:30:44,859 --> 00:30:48,282
and they provide me with the reads that I
was asking for.

520
00:30:48,282 --> 00:30:51,825
It's not just like I pop in and peek at
who was doing what.

521
00:30:51,825 --> 00:30:54,647
It's an official request. I need a case
number.

522
00:30:54,647 --> 00:30:57,409
It has to be an active criminal
investigation.

523
00:30:57,409 --> 00:31:01,372
And again, those are different than how
the Westchester ones work.

524
00:31:01,372 --> 00:31:05,794
Do you have any— part of the issue is that
there is a Flock

525
00:31:05,794 --> 00:31:10,216
camera map, right? And some of our cameras
are on that map.

526
00:31:10,216 --> 00:31:10,681
Correct.

527
00:31:10,681 --> 00:31:13,331
And do you have any idea why that would be
the case?

528
00:31:13,331 --> 00:31:16,816
So I don't expect somebody who's
organizing like an anti-license plate

529
00:31:16,816 --> 00:31:17,115
organizing like an anti-license plate
reader

530
00:31:17,115 --> 00:31:20,650
movement to know the difference between
Flock or ReCore or Westchester.

531
00:31:20,650 --> 00:31:23,687
You know, it's just different equipment,
different databases.

532
00:31:23,687 --> 00:31:27,653
So that particular map isn't coming from
Flock itself, it's coming from—

533
00:31:27,653 --> 00:31:29,596
That's coming from, I think, people that
are seeing them.

534
00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:35,797
Yeah. If you look at the map and you hover
over the ones that are in the Village,

535
00:31:35,797 --> 00:31:38,979
you'll see that they do label it as Ricoh.

536
00:31:38,979 --> 00:31:40,721
So, but it's, you know,

537
00:31:40,721 --> 00:31:46,403
they just list all cameras on that website
regardless of what model or what

538
00:31:46,403 --> 00:31:47,691
company they are.

539
00:31:47,691 --> 00:31:51,378
The general consensus is they're all
Flock.

540
00:31:51,378 --> 00:31:53,995
Yes, because people don't know the
difference.

541
00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:55,465
It's like using Xerox for photocopying.

542
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:57,440
Correct.

543
00:31:57,635 --> 00:31:58,024
Correct.

544
00:31:58,187 --> 00:32:01,207
And I don't expect them to know the
difference by looking at it.

545
00:32:01,207 --> 00:32:05,028
You know, they— you could definitely see
that we have cameras when you drive past

546
00:32:05,028 --> 00:32:05,500
the sites.

547
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:10,894
So when you look on that website, though,
it looks like— like, does—

548
00:32:10,894 --> 00:32:15,971
I assume the town of Cortland must have
cameras because they're—

549
00:32:15,971 --> 00:32:18,113
they use the county police.

550
00:32:18,113 --> 00:32:19,723
I mean, they're all over the county.

551
00:32:19,723 --> 00:32:20,496
If it's in Westchester—

552
00:32:20,496 --> 00:32:25,167
When you look on that website, whether or
not it's accurate, I mean, we can, like,

553
00:32:25,167 --> 00:32:28,756
debate, like, you know, people get
information on the internet.

554
00:32:28,756 --> 00:32:31,434
So, like, I don't know if it's accurate or
not.

555
00:32:31,434 --> 00:32:34,282
I just know when I pull up the website
what I see.

556
00:32:34,282 --> 00:32:38,669
And when I run my license plate number
through the have you been flocked, you

557
00:32:38,669 --> 00:32:38,954
through the have you been flocked, you
know,

558
00:32:38,954 --> 00:32:42,144
there's a lot of information out there,
accurate or not.

559
00:32:42,144 --> 00:32:45,448
But it doesn't, that doesn't show any
cameras in Cortland.

560
00:32:45,448 --> 00:32:47,271
It only shows cameras in Croton.

561
00:32:47,271 --> 00:32:51,697
Then whoever organized the website may
have missed the ones in Cortland.

562
00:32:51,697 --> 00:32:54,916
I think that's why people are thinking
it's flocked.

563
00:32:54,916 --> 00:32:59,372
I don't, I think what all this says to me
is, and people have questions,

564
00:32:59,372 --> 00:33:03,582
people talk, I mean, we talk about this at
PAC every single meeting.

565
00:33:03,582 --> 00:33:04,943
That's why we're here.

566
00:33:04,943 --> 00:33:09,648
But I sort of, the way when I saw this,
the way it was set up on the agenda,

567
00:33:09,648 --> 00:33:14,600
I kind of thought we were gonna have like
more of an overall conversation about,

568
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,799
and maybe I walked in a few minutes late,
so maybe we did, what all the cameras are,

569
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:23,265
what the difference is, you know, like the
body cameras,

570
00:33:23,265 --> 00:33:27,475
Body cam is a whole different thing than
this, but it's all cameras.

571
00:33:27,475 --> 00:33:31,065
And I think there is an opportunity to
educate the public.

572
00:33:31,065 --> 00:33:32,736
I'll just speak for myself.

573
00:33:32,736 --> 00:33:37,688
I want you guys to be in a position to do
your job and to be safe and to be safe

574
00:33:37,688 --> 00:33:42,702
from being harmed and also to be safe from
being accused of something that a body

575
00:33:42,702 --> 00:33:45,487
cam would, would be able to protect you
from.

576
00:33:45,487 --> 00:33:48,644
But at the same time, Citizens are super
concerned.

577
00:33:48,644 --> 00:33:51,182
You're being monitored everywhere you go.

578
00:33:51,182 --> 00:33:55,019
And like, I mean, there is a, there's a
huge lawsuit going on.

579
00:33:55,019 --> 00:33:58,981
It's not like it's coming from nowhere. I
don't think, you know.

580
00:33:58,981 --> 00:33:59,320
Yeah.

581
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,650
So I think that people's concerns are
real.

582
00:34:01,650 --> 00:34:04,902
So I do think that if we're gonna have
cameras, which we do,

583
00:34:04,902 --> 00:34:07,774
and it sounds like we're gonna have
others, there is,

584
00:34:07,774 --> 00:34:12,055
we do have some responsibility to explain
to people Maybe not show them exactly

585
00:34:12,055 --> 00:34:15,686
where they are, because again, we talk
about this in PAC, you know,

586
00:34:15,686 --> 00:34:18,070
what's the right way to have signage,
right?

587
00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:21,918
Should we point out exactly where they
are, or should we just say like,

588
00:34:21,918 --> 00:34:25,602
there are cameras? Like when you pull onto
a school ground, it says,

589
00:34:25,602 --> 00:34:27,174
this is monitored by cameras.

590
00:34:27,319 --> 00:34:29,805
It doesn't say— Smile, you're on camera.

591
00:34:29,805 --> 00:34:34,151
But I, you know, I do think there's an
opportunity and a responsibility for us to

592
00:34:34,151 --> 00:34:34,258
opportunity and a responsibility for us to
be

593
00:34:34,258 --> 00:34:36,351
educating people about what's going on.

594
00:34:36,463 --> 00:34:36,608
We—

595
00:34:36,784 --> 00:34:39,858
the relationship with the police
department is fabulous.

596
00:34:39,858 --> 00:34:44,030
But when you feel like you're being
monitored and what's happening with that

597
00:34:44,030 --> 00:34:48,038
footage— also, our contract is not with
the county and it's not with you,

598
00:34:48,038 --> 00:34:51,441
it's with ReCore. And we don't— do we know
what they're doing?

599
00:34:51,441 --> 00:34:54,900
Like, is that a— can you speak to that? So
what are they doing?

600
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:56,009
I can speak to that.

601
00:34:56,009 --> 00:35:00,058
Um, the county is actually moving away
from ReCore and keeping everything

602
00:35:00,058 --> 00:35:00,501
from ReCore and keeping everything
entirely

603
00:35:00,501 --> 00:35:02,498
on premise at Westchester County PD.

604
00:35:02,498 --> 00:35:05,365
So they're gonna— but it's also like the
infrastructure,

605
00:35:05,365 --> 00:35:09,308
like the county PD has the Technological
infrastructure to be able to run the

606
00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:12,841
county, like do all whatever the back end
of it that RECORR would do?

607
00:35:12,841 --> 00:35:15,004
It's already almost complete, the
transition.

608
00:35:15,004 --> 00:35:18,033
And actually, another— this, I was going
to mention this later—

609
00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:21,831
another positive thing about this is that
we're going to save a lot of money on

610
00:35:21,831 --> 00:35:24,715
maintenance fees. We pay annual fees for
the RECORR service,

611
00:35:24,715 --> 00:35:28,705
which the county is not going to continue
charging once it's been migrated to their

612
00:35:28,705 --> 00:35:29,042
system.

613
00:35:29,042 --> 00:35:33,721
Okay. So does that mean that we need a new
contract with I mean,

614
00:35:33,721 --> 00:35:39,715
if the county presents us with one, I'm
based on, based on the information, right,

615
00:35:39,715 --> 00:35:42,640
that we have, we don't have a— we don't,

616
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,099
we don't have an existing intermunicipal
agreement with them.

617
00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:51,498
I would like to suggest that we talk about
that, discuss that.

618
00:35:51,498 --> 00:35:55,472
I know we don't have an agreement with
them now on this,

619
00:35:55,472 --> 00:36:00,297
which is why there are a lot of unknown
questions. questions, right?

620
00:36:00,297 --> 00:36:05,902
Like, we don't, we don't know how they're
using the data other than what you're

621
00:36:05,902 --> 00:36:06,683
telling us.

622
00:36:06,683 --> 00:36:07,314
How—

623
00:36:07,427 --> 00:36:08,106
who's using the data?

624
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:08,784
The county.

625
00:36:08,962 --> 00:36:09,058
Okay.

626
00:36:09,058 --> 00:36:10,478
That's what the county is.

627
00:36:10,478 --> 00:36:15,883
It's odd to me that we wouldn't have a
municipal agreement with the county over

628
00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:16,157
municipal agreement with the county over
the—

629
00:36:16,157 --> 00:36:20,600
I mean, the only reason we get some access
to the cameras is because Mark happens to

630
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,885
work there once a week. There are a lot of
agencies that don't have people there.

631
00:36:24,885 --> 00:36:28,059
A lot of them But, you know, like Mark
said, if you have to,

632
00:36:28,059 --> 00:36:32,131
you would have to request information from
the county then to get it correct.

633
00:36:32,131 --> 00:36:35,834
You know, I mean, we just happen to have
some of our staff work there.

634
00:36:35,834 --> 00:36:37,950
So we're— we can get it a little easier.

635
00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:43,607
But so we're on county computers when we
are in the county offices looking at the

636
00:36:43,607 --> 00:36:44,166
footage.

637
00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:45,402
When I go there?

638
00:36:45,643 --> 00:36:45,756
Yes.

639
00:36:46,125 --> 00:36:46,302
Yeah.

640
00:36:46,302 --> 00:36:47,442
So when you—

641
00:36:47,876 --> 00:36:48,470
what do you see?

642
00:36:48,695 --> 00:36:51,674
Like, do you see a car? Do you see Do you
see just a license plate?

643
00:36:51,755 --> 00:36:53,612
Like, what do you see?

644
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:58,677
You see a picture of the car and a
zoomed-out picture of the

645
00:36:58,677 --> 00:37:02,813
license plate. And yeah, it's a very clear
photo.

646
00:37:02,813 --> 00:37:08,450
And so you cannot view this footage from
Croton?

647
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:10,761
I can. Yes, I can review it at my desk.

648
00:37:10,761 --> 00:37:12,458
You can review it once you have it.

649
00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:13,913
You could put more part of it there.

650
00:37:13,913 --> 00:37:15,447
So you download it.

651
00:37:15,992 --> 00:37:17,229
It's essentially a login.

652
00:37:17,229 --> 00:37:18,467
Oh, okay.

653
00:37:18,467 --> 00:37:18,708
Yeah.

654
00:37:18,708 --> 00:37:19,206
Okay.

655
00:37:19,302 --> 00:37:20,652
So it's like in the cloud somewhere?

656
00:37:20,652 --> 00:37:23,207
No, it's at Westchester County PD physical
storage.

657
00:37:23,207 --> 00:37:25,266
So do you have to VPN into the—

658
00:37:25,266 --> 00:37:25,800
No.

659
00:37:26,529 --> 00:37:26,610
No.

660
00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:31,628
So then I don't understand how you get
access to it from here.

661
00:37:31,628 --> 00:37:38,126
So they keep the data physically at County
PD, and I can log in to that.

662
00:37:38,126 --> 00:37:40,025
So that's basically a VPN, right?

663
00:37:40,073 --> 00:37:42,510
I mean, that's— I don't know if I'd—

664
00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:42,910
I don't know.

665
00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:45,490
Yeah, I mean, that's the only way you can
get down there, I would imagine.

666
00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:46,910
Sounds like it.

667
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:49,820
Yeah, because you're remotely logging into
their system.

668
00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:54,338
It's— I mean, yeah, I guess so. I don't
know if that's the same as when you're

669
00:37:54,338 --> 00:37:54,570
know if that's the same as when you're
out.

670
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:56,697
But I also think some of these questions
are not—

671
00:37:56,697 --> 00:37:58,910
I appreciate all the questions that you
can answer.

672
00:37:58,910 --> 00:38:02,339
Like, I have questions that there's no
possible way you could answer about data

673
00:38:02,339 --> 00:38:05,030
storage and things like that. Like, this
conversation is much—

674
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:09,861
So even, even Like before the transition
from RECOR to county doing it themselves,

675
00:38:09,861 --> 00:38:12,924
um, RECOR didn't even store the data for
the county.

676
00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:15,163
The county has always stored the data.

677
00:38:15,163 --> 00:38:19,709
Um, but RECOR owns it because RECOR is the
company that—

678
00:38:19,709 --> 00:38:24,067
We were just using— and again, this is
more a question for county, but, um,

679
00:38:24,067 --> 00:38:27,146
just to be able to, to search, we'd use
their system.

680
00:38:27,146 --> 00:38:31,097
But it was all Westchester County data,
was Westchester County data.

681
00:38:31,097 --> 00:38:35,571
I think it's not like Flock collecting
data and storing it in their server or

682
00:38:35,571 --> 00:38:35,861
data and storing it in their server or
their

683
00:38:35,861 --> 00:38:38,592
cloud. It was always controlled by
Westchester.

684
00:38:38,592 --> 00:38:42,517
Yeah, I guess I just have data security
issues that I don't even— I mean,

685
00:38:42,517 --> 00:38:46,549
I'm not a data security expert, but I have
a lot of data security concerns,

686
00:38:46,549 --> 00:38:49,452
not just about this, about, you know,
medical records,

687
00:38:49,452 --> 00:38:53,753
whatever kind of records you have that are
out there. Right. I'm sure we all do.

688
00:38:53,753 --> 00:38:57,624
So I feel like that's the component of
this conversation that's missing.

689
00:38:57,624 --> 00:39:01,817
I am grateful that you guys are able to
Tell us all these successes you've had

690
00:39:01,817 --> 00:39:02,032
Tell us all these successes you've had
that

691
00:39:02,032 --> 00:39:04,290
you wouldn't have had without the cameras.

692
00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:07,838
But that, I feel like there's a piece of,
a big chunk of this pie,

693
00:39:07,838 --> 00:39:10,258
of this conversation that we can't just
have.

694
00:39:10,258 --> 00:39:14,720
It's helpful to hear how beneficial it is
to you and technically how you use it and

695
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,010
why it's important, but—

696
00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:17,542
It needs to be with the county.

697
00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:20,265
And the county is not able to talk about
it at the moment.

698
00:39:20,265 --> 00:39:24,247
Well, but there's gotta be somebody, I
don't, I mean, I guess—

699
00:39:24,176 --> 00:39:25,951
I know I'm not a computer scientist,

700
00:39:25,951 --> 00:39:29,256
but I do know that this is not part of any
national network, right?

701
00:39:29,256 --> 00:39:33,349
Somebody from a federal agency would still
need to contact the county police to get

702
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:36,851
data. It's controlled by law enforcement.
It's not controlled by Flock.

703
00:39:36,851 --> 00:39:40,402
Okay, I know that's a big concern is,
okay, if it's controlled by Flock,

704
00:39:40,402 --> 00:39:43,953
who can ask Flock for the information,
right? That's not happening here.

705
00:39:43,953 --> 00:39:47,356
This is the county that you have to go
through and you need an active

706
00:39:47,356 --> 00:39:47,997
through and you need an active
investigation

707
00:39:47,997 --> 00:39:49,082
to get data from them.

708
00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:49,885
And they need a case number.

709
00:39:50,207 --> 00:39:51,267
You need a case number, yes.

710
00:39:51,267 --> 00:39:54,729
So, Detective, you were talking about
making a request of some of the

711
00:39:54,729 --> 00:39:55,280
making a request of some of the
third-party

712
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,732
networks.

713
00:39:55,732 --> 00:39:56,905
Correct, like a Find Your Truck.

714
00:39:56,905 --> 00:40:00,063
And then you were saying, it's not like
that for us.

715
00:40:00,063 --> 00:40:04,012
Can you elaborate on— and when you say us,
you mean dealing with,

716
00:40:04,012 --> 00:40:05,530
obviously, the Canadians?

717
00:40:05,530 --> 00:40:06,574
Local, local, local, yes.

718
00:40:06,574 --> 00:40:10,301
So can you elaborate on what it is like?
Do you need a written request, et cetera?

719
00:40:10,301 --> 00:40:13,472
So, because I work at the RTC, I do— I can
log in myself and—

720
00:40:13,472 --> 00:40:14,772
conduct my investigation.

721
00:40:14,772 --> 00:40:19,034
Other agencies that need data from the RTC
would have to submit a request to them.

722
00:40:19,034 --> 00:40:20,802
And again, I can't speak for them.

723
00:40:20,802 --> 00:40:23,973
I don't work— I'm not a county police
officer who's assigned.

724
00:40:23,973 --> 00:40:26,260
I just am a Croton cop who's assigned
there.

725
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:29,899
But I know that, like I gave you the
example before, when I need FLOC,

726
00:40:29,899 --> 00:40:32,238
I have to submit an official written
request.

727
00:40:32,238 --> 00:40:36,137
It's similar to, you know, again, I know
there's data and privacy concerns.

728
00:40:36,137 --> 00:40:40,192
You go into a local business, like You
know, ShopRite, for example, your face,

729
00:40:40,192 --> 00:40:44,506
they have a facial recognition camera that
it's like I'm sitting here right next to

730
00:40:44,506 --> 00:40:46,326
you. That's how clear the photo is.

731
00:40:46,326 --> 00:40:48,613
If I need that as a law enforcement
officer,

732
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:52,616
I have to send an official written request
and then I can obtain that, right?

733
00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:56,722
So that's the same thing with license
plate readers, except it's not your face,

734
00:40:56,722 --> 00:40:58,230
it's just your license plate.

735
00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:00,050
Well, and identifying, like, you know,

736
00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:02,445
I think you can see identifying pieces of
the car.

737
00:41:02,445 --> 00:41:06,229
Sometimes you can see, sometimes in the
license plate reader, because whenever,

738
00:41:06,229 --> 00:41:09,869
like, If you get a picture of a ticket,
you know, in the city, if you get a—

739
00:41:09,869 --> 00:41:12,216
you can see that it's not just the license
plate.

740
00:41:12,216 --> 00:41:15,521
You can see the license plate in the
picture, but it's like your car.

741
00:41:15,521 --> 00:41:18,060
They can— you can't necessarily make out a
face, but—

742
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,973
Well, yeah, so I'm talking like
specifically about, you know,

743
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:22,597
like probable cause for an arrest.

744
00:41:22,597 --> 00:41:26,513
There's no way you could use a photo that
was taken by the license plate reader to

745
00:41:26,513 --> 00:41:29,187
say, oh yeah, that's John Nikitopoulos and
he, you know.

746
00:41:29,187 --> 00:41:32,196
And I don't know if you might have walked
in after I said this,

747
00:41:32,196 --> 00:41:36,207
being detained Being detected by a license
plate reader is not probable cause for an

748
00:41:36,207 --> 00:41:39,885
arrest. I've seen reports that somebody
got arrested because the Flock camera

749
00:41:39,885 --> 00:41:43,514
detected them. That's not how it works. I
don't know what those reports are.

750
00:41:43,514 --> 00:41:47,478
You still need other investigative steps
because your car being there does not mean

751
00:41:47,478 --> 00:41:49,627
you committed the crime, if that makes
sense.

752
00:41:49,627 --> 00:41:50,606
I just want to—

753
00:41:50,606 --> 00:41:53,720
We believe that the county tells us the
truth, obviously.

754
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,288
We don't think they're hiding anything
from us.

755
00:41:56,288 --> 00:41:59,292
They're telling us it's kept in-house. We
believe that.

756
00:41:59,292 --> 00:42:02,570
Mark is part of the team down there and he
has access to it.

757
00:42:02,570 --> 00:42:06,777
You know, we don't use them for anything
else other than investigative leads.

758
00:42:06,777 --> 00:42:09,617
You know, Mark's just not going on there
saying, oh,

759
00:42:09,617 --> 00:42:13,660
let me see who's driving through Croton.
You know, we don't do that stuff.

760
00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:15,083
Yeah, I don't mean like,

761
00:42:15,083 --> 00:42:18,997
I'm not worried about you guys using it
for those kind of reasons.

762
00:42:18,997 --> 00:42:22,140
I'm not, you know, you misusing it is not
my concern.

763
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:26,990
Well, I don't believe that the county's
misusing it either. You know, as I said.

764
00:42:26,990 --> 00:42:30,747
No, but it's where it is after that and it
sounds like we're not Totally sure.

765
00:42:31,261 --> 00:42:35,034
I don't feel totally confident from what
they tell us that everything is kept

766
00:42:35,034 --> 00:42:36,014
in-house down there.

767
00:42:36,014 --> 00:42:36,832
It's kept in-house.

768
00:42:36,832 --> 00:42:37,619
You know, that's—

769
00:42:37,619 --> 00:42:44,632
so why can't we have a municipal agreement
with the county with them putting that in

770
00:42:44,632 --> 00:42:46,552
writing to the village?

771
00:42:46,552 --> 00:42:51,477
Because right now we have, we have an
agreement with RECOR,

772
00:42:51,477 --> 00:42:56,236
and one of the issues is it's on— it's a
public contract.

773
00:42:56,236 --> 00:42:58,156
And so in the contract,

774
00:42:58,156 --> 00:43:03,916
and this is what's kind of making the
public nervous is that there's—

775
00:43:03,916 --> 00:43:10,178
under data rights, the contract says user
retains all rights and ownership.

776
00:43:10,178 --> 00:43:14,018
The provider may use the operational data
for—

777
00:43:14,018 --> 00:43:19,945
and it says use with other governmental or
quasi-governmental agencies.

778
00:43:19,945 --> 00:43:26,540
That is in our RECOR contract. That's
what's making the public nervous as well.

779
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:33,052
It's— from what you're saying, this—
that's not hap— like, it's not happening.

780
00:43:33,052 --> 00:43:36,262
Well, a governmental agency can, with a
case number,

781
00:43:36,262 --> 00:43:41,200
can contact the county police and get an
investigative lead or data that they're

782
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,422
seeking. It's a governmental agency.

783
00:43:43,422 --> 00:43:44,904
It's not like, you know,

784
00:43:44,904 --> 00:43:49,533
some random person Who's curious about
what's going on can contact them and

785
00:43:49,533 --> 00:43:49,904
what's going on can contact them and
obtain

786
00:43:49,904 --> 00:43:53,669
that. Which, again, I don't know if that's
the case for FLOC,

787
00:43:53,669 --> 00:43:57,558
because FLOC is third party, right?
That's, that's the concern.

788
00:43:57,558 --> 00:44:02,438
In this case, the governmental agency
would have to contact the county for the

789
00:44:02,438 --> 00:44:02,751
would have to contact the county for the
data.

790
00:44:02,751 --> 00:44:03,248
Correct.

791
00:44:03,296 --> 00:44:03,521
Yes.

792
00:44:03,521 --> 00:44:09,131
But in our contract, the county is not the
provider. RECOR is the provider.

793
00:44:09,131 --> 00:44:12,418
I thought you said the user. The user.

794
00:44:12,418 --> 00:44:13,219
We're the user.

795
00:44:13,948 --> 00:44:14,173
Okay.

796
00:44:14,818 --> 00:44:16,203
Yeah. And in our contract—

797
00:44:16,203 --> 00:44:16,799
It says both.

798
00:44:16,799 --> 00:44:17,315
Okay.

799
00:44:17,315 --> 00:44:17,750
Right?

800
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:20,851
So, I mean, you know, I have it up.

801
00:44:20,851 --> 00:44:23,331
I don't want to misquote it,

802
00:44:23,331 --> 00:44:29,089
but it talks about the provider may use
the operational data for—

803
00:44:29,089 --> 00:44:34,582
and if RECOR is the provider and we're the
user, in this case,

804
00:44:34,582 --> 00:44:39,542
that's wrong. It's creating
misinformation, if you will,

805
00:44:39,542 --> 00:44:43,706
because The county is the provider of the
data.

806
00:44:43,706 --> 00:44:48,078
Unless we'd have to look at this in a
little more detail.

807
00:44:48,078 --> 00:44:53,908
Yeah, I mean, I'm not— I thought the— what
we signed back in '22, thank you,

808
00:44:53,908 --> 00:44:57,974
had to do more with the maintenance of the
equipment.

809
00:44:59,372 --> 00:44:59,518
Correct.

810
00:44:59,599 --> 00:44:59,908
Right.

811
00:44:59,956 --> 00:45:04,692
So because it's okay, take a look at the
contract. It's in Exhibit C.

812
00:45:04,692 --> 00:45:07,095
And this is what was posted Online.

813
00:45:07,368 --> 00:45:07,689
Yep.

814
00:45:07,770 --> 00:45:09,841
Was also making the public—

815
00:45:10,355 --> 00:45:15,271
yeah. And in terms of an IMA with the
county, I'm certainly not opposed to that.

816
00:45:15,271 --> 00:45:19,695
But that would need to be at the— the
county would need to request that.

817
00:45:19,695 --> 00:45:23,874
Yeah, would need to do that. You know,
they, they generate the IMAs.

818
00:45:25,223 --> 00:45:30,185
So, so we have no— there's no
intermunicipal agreement in

819
00:45:30,185 --> 00:45:35,408
terms of You know, Detective Fielding
being in that building

820
00:45:35,408 --> 00:45:35,669
or—

821
00:45:35,669 --> 00:45:38,618
Not that I'm aware of.

822
00:45:38,618 --> 00:45:40,893
Equipment or anything like that, right?

823
00:45:40,893 --> 00:45:42,656
No, it's more of a—

824
00:45:42,656 --> 00:45:44,018
Agency agreement.

825
00:45:44,018 --> 00:45:47,537
Yeah, it's more like the mutual aid
situation, right?

826
00:45:47,537 --> 00:45:49,131
Where we have, you know,

827
00:45:49,131 --> 00:45:54,575
Detective Fielding works 5 days a week and
one of his 5 days he's assigned to work

828
00:45:54,575 --> 00:45:57,895
at the RTC. So it's just, that's where he
reports.

829
00:45:58,008 --> 00:46:00,719
So when you're reporting to that facility,

830
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,785
are you looking at active cases?

831
00:46:02,785 --> 00:46:06,142
Like, what are you sort of spending your
time doing?

832
00:46:06,142 --> 00:46:10,269
Well, it depends on what's going on in
that particular day,

833
00:46:10,269 --> 00:46:12,857
but I'm free to work on my own cases.

834
00:46:12,857 --> 00:46:18,523
If it's a slow day there, I can work on my
own cases that, you know, from Croton,

835
00:46:18,523 --> 00:46:20,691
because I'm employed by Croton.

836
00:46:20,691 --> 00:46:26,077
Like, my primary responsibility is
obviously to solve crimes that occurred in

837
00:46:26,077 --> 00:46:31,043
Croton. So, yeah, I mean, I think that's
kind of getting away from the—

838
00:46:31,043 --> 00:46:32,511
Right.

839
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,770
So you're not really looking at the
license plate readers?

840
00:46:35,770 --> 00:46:38,034
I do when I'm there. Yeah.

841
00:46:38,179 --> 00:46:38,259
Yeah.

842
00:46:38,324 --> 00:46:41,494
They have, they have full-time, they have
full-time, you know,

843
00:46:41,494 --> 00:46:45,635
officers that are monitoring the license
plate readers for alerts and things like

844
00:46:45,635 --> 00:46:48,141
that. That's not my primary responsibility
there.

845
00:46:48,141 --> 00:46:52,435
So I do look at the license plate readers
there if I'm investigating something or if

846
00:46:52,435 --> 00:46:56,270
they need assistance with something. It's
kind of like as needed, you know.

847
00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:59,770
You know, and we know the information is
going there because counties are the ones

848
00:46:59,770 --> 00:47:01,520
that come and hook up the cameras for us.

849
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,658
Yeah, they do the installation.

850
00:47:02,658 --> 00:47:05,486
They're the ones that install, which saves
us, which saves us a lot of money.

851
00:47:05,486 --> 00:47:08,569
You know, we just get the equipment and
they come and hook it up.

852
00:47:08,955 --> 00:47:09,549
Right.

853
00:47:09,549 --> 00:47:15,833
Attorney, can I ask you, Lori, don't mean
to put you on the spot, Lori Lee.

854
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:19,855
But how do these intermunicipal agreements
work?

855
00:47:19,855 --> 00:47:25,720
Does it have to start from the county, or
could we draft something up?

856
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:29,406
And— No, it would, it would be a county
IMA.

857
00:47:29,406 --> 00:47:35,355
They generate it using their forms of
contract, and they send it to us.

858
00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:38,874
So it's generated as it starts the county.

859
00:47:39,805 --> 00:47:43,075
So is this Do all municipalities who are
using this have this?

860
00:47:43,155 --> 00:47:43,572
Is this—

861
00:47:43,796 --> 00:47:45,968
I mean, is this the contract they have?

862
00:47:45,968 --> 00:47:49,531
All of those municipalities are contracted
with ReCore, or some—

863
00:47:49,531 --> 00:47:51,536
nobody's contracted with the county?

864
00:47:51,536 --> 00:47:55,537
I can't speak for other agencies, but I
know that the system was ReCore.

865
00:47:55,537 --> 00:47:59,704
Like, ReCore has our maintenance fees.
That's just the equipment they used.

866
00:47:59,704 --> 00:48:01,204
So now there's going to be—

867
00:48:01,204 --> 00:48:05,594
I don't know if they're going to send
something new out for us now that they're

868
00:48:05,594 --> 00:48:10,206
switching away from ReCore. Again, because
I, I can't speak for what they're doing.

869
00:48:10,206 --> 00:48:14,540
But if an agency is participating in
having license plate readers installed, I

870
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:14,818
having license plate readers installed, I
mean,

871
00:48:14,818 --> 00:48:17,485
I think they're free to use whoever they
choose.

872
00:48:17,485 --> 00:48:20,041
But if they want to be on this county
network,

873
00:48:20,041 --> 00:48:22,319
they'd have to go through ReCore for now.

874
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:26,003
If the county is going to take on
maintenance of the system going forward,

875
00:48:26,003 --> 00:48:29,089
and they're going to expect us— if they're
going to charge us,

876
00:48:29,089 --> 00:48:31,180
or even if they're not going to charge us,

877
00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:34,018
I would imagine that there would be some
sort of I agree.

878
00:48:34,018 --> 00:48:37,546
And then you terminate ReCore, maybe.

879
00:48:37,546 --> 00:48:41,185
I would assume so. If the county is taking
over the

880
00:48:41,185 --> 00:48:45,252
maintenance, there would be no need for us
to have ReCore

881
00:48:45,252 --> 00:48:45,823
anymore.

882
00:48:45,823 --> 00:48:48,630
They're not totally transitioned yet.

883
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:50,651
It's close, but not quite there.

884
00:48:50,651 --> 00:48:54,212
We'd retain the ReCore hardware, and then
the county would—

885
00:48:54,212 --> 00:48:56,433
So the hardware that we have is—

886
00:48:56,433 --> 00:49:01,638
there's multiple manufacturers of the
hardware that's used to install this.

887
00:49:01,638 --> 00:49:05,872
The cameras themselves, I think, are
manufactured by Mobotix.

888
00:49:05,872 --> 00:49:09,689
So once— and again, I didn't organize this
whole thing—

889
00:49:09,689 --> 00:49:12,396
once they migrate to the county system,

890
00:49:12,396 --> 00:49:17,046
I don't think we're going to be dealing
with ReCore at all anymore.

891
00:49:17,046 --> 00:49:21,320
So getting ReCore out of the storage
system doesn't affect the hardware or

892
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:21,782
system doesn't affect the hardware or
anything

893
00:49:21,782 --> 00:49:22,360
like that?

894
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,051
No, it shouldn't.

895
00:49:24,051 --> 00:49:28,472
I think, and this is a suggestion of
Stacey, Trustee Nachtaler, I mean,

896
00:49:28,472 --> 00:49:33,640
I think that there's an opportunity for us
to have a Q&A sort of developed with the

897
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,877
information that you've shared with us
this evening,

898
00:49:36,877 --> 00:49:39,430
information that we have from the county,

899
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:43,477
and then sort of what's unanswered from
the county, and be clear,

900
00:49:43,477 --> 00:49:48,645
because there are some questions that the
county is no longer able to answer due to

901
00:49:48,645 --> 00:49:53,688
the lawsuit. So I think we just need to be
clear to the community that, you know,

902
00:49:53,688 --> 00:49:57,985
what you're seeing on the internet is not
true in terms of, you know,

903
00:49:57,985 --> 00:49:59,541
these are not flock cams.

904
00:49:59,541 --> 00:50:01,098
Maybe explaining— I mean,

905
00:50:01,098 --> 00:50:05,270
I learned a lot in terms of what a flock
cam even was this evening.

906
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:09,815
Really understanding sort of the
difference between a third-party system,

907
00:50:09,815 --> 00:50:12,368
what we're currently using in the county,

908
00:50:12,368 --> 00:50:15,730
the county's aspirations to move it
entirely in-house,

909
00:50:15,730 --> 00:50:20,711
kind of all those things in a, you know,
in a way that the public can understand

910
00:50:20,711 --> 00:50:20,898
in a way that the public can understand
it.

911
00:50:20,898 --> 00:50:23,388
And hopefully, you know, ease some fear.

912
00:50:23,388 --> 00:50:28,307
I mean, we're just not living in the same
world that we were living in in 2022,

913
00:50:28,307 --> 00:50:30,424
unfortunately. So there's a great,

914
00:50:30,424 --> 00:50:33,724
great amount of distrust of the government
right now.

915
00:50:33,724 --> 00:50:38,179
Well, clear, you know, and I also think
that, I mean, you know, when we,

916
00:50:38,179 --> 00:50:43,067
we got that communication from our county
legislator regarding the Q&A that the

917
00:50:43,067 --> 00:50:47,646
county is in the process of Putting
together or wants to put together once

918
00:50:47,646 --> 00:50:47,893
together or wants to put together once
the—

919
00:50:47,893 --> 00:50:51,605
I don't remember exactly what this— where
we were with that.

920
00:50:51,605 --> 00:50:56,370
But there is an advocacy piece that we
should be doing, asking the county to—

921
00:50:56,370 --> 00:50:57,731
she is advocating for—

922
00:50:57,731 --> 00:51:01,691
to her colleagues and the county staff to
put together this Q&A.

923
00:51:01,691 --> 00:51:05,156
But her ask to us was we should be doing
the same thing.

924
00:51:05,156 --> 00:51:09,054
There are only so many questions Detective
Fielding can answer,

925
00:51:09,054 --> 00:51:10,910
and I really do appreciate it.

926
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:11,585
Good.

927
00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:12,471
I'm sorry for putting you on the spot.

928
00:51:12,471 --> 00:51:12,971
No, no.

929
00:51:12,971 --> 00:51:18,162
I know you're not a data expert, but I
think this conversation, the questions,

930
00:51:18,162 --> 00:51:21,955
some of the questions we have, you can't
possibly answer.

931
00:51:21,955 --> 00:51:25,549
But that is definitely not making them go
away for me.

932
00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:29,808
I feel a little, I feel like I have more
information than I did.

933
00:51:29,808 --> 00:51:34,600
And it is great to see how successful some
of the, this has been for us,

934
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,791
but I don't feel any better about the
cameras than I did before we put this on

935
00:51:39,791 --> 00:51:40,057
cameras than I did before we put this on
as a

936
00:51:40,057 --> 00:51:45,314
topic. So I guess my question, you know, I
want to keep the conversation going.

937
00:51:45,314 --> 00:51:49,241
You know, and I guess drafting a Q&A is a
good first start,

938
00:51:49,241 --> 00:51:51,104
but also the advocacy piece,

939
00:51:51,104 --> 00:51:56,029
because we need to understand we're just
guessing if we're not getting the

940
00:51:56,029 --> 00:51:57,892
information from the county.

941
00:51:57,892 --> 00:52:02,117
Yeah, well, and, and to what Trustee
Nicholson said, right, I mean, I'm—

942
00:52:02,117 --> 00:52:06,341
if I'm putting up Putting together a Q&A,
I'm not going to guess, right?

943
00:52:06,341 --> 00:52:09,920
I mean, if there are things that we don't
know the answer to,

944
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,673
we just have to say we are not able to get
the answers to these questions at this

945
00:52:14,673 --> 00:52:19,484
time. And I mean, the county is not going
to comment on pending litigation, right?

946
00:52:19,484 --> 00:52:20,658
I mean, there's not—

947
00:52:20,658 --> 00:52:22,753
But I think sometimes an answer is we
don't know.

948
00:52:22,753 --> 00:52:24,335
We don't know an answer is an answer.

949
00:52:24,335 --> 00:52:25,668
That's what I just said.

950
00:52:25,668 --> 00:52:29,062
Right. But I think that I would not leave
that question off just because because we

951
00:52:29,062 --> 00:52:29,921
don't have an answer.

952
00:52:29,921 --> 00:52:32,701
I think the more transparent we can be—
yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

953
00:52:32,701 --> 00:52:32,990
Okay.

954
00:52:33,054 --> 00:52:34,413
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

955
00:52:34,413 --> 00:52:38,207
You know, it's just that there are going
to be some things that we don't know the

956
00:52:38,207 --> 00:52:40,456
answer to. So we have to say it, say that.
Yeah.

957
00:52:40,938 --> 00:52:47,496
Yeah. Can I ask a question just for
clarification of the detective?

958
00:52:47,496 --> 00:52:53,466
Is the license plate reader cameras the
same as the red light

959
00:52:53,466 --> 00:52:54,249
cameras?

960
00:52:54,249 --> 00:53:00,095
No, the license plate cameras They don't
issue tickets, which is the primary,

961
00:53:00,095 --> 00:53:04,347
I think, responsibility of the red light
cameras, right?

962
00:53:04,347 --> 00:53:09,510
They'll send you a fee in the mail for not
stopping for a red light.

963
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:12,471
The license plate cameras are not that.

964
00:53:12,471 --> 00:53:18,393
They take photos of the vehicle as it
passes and stores that for investigative

965
00:53:18,393 --> 00:53:18,849
leads.

966
00:53:18,849 --> 00:53:22,325
Okay, so you don't see the drivers?

967
00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:25,213
Like I think one of the trustees
mentioned,

968
00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:28,437
You might see a human being driving the
vehicle.

969
00:53:28,437 --> 00:53:31,863
You might be able to tell it's a female,
not a man.

970
00:53:31,863 --> 00:53:32,345
Correct.

971
00:53:32,345 --> 00:53:33,260
You know, something like that.

972
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:35,904
A red shirt versus a blue shirt, things
like that.

973
00:53:35,904 --> 00:53:39,870
But there's nothing that's gonna
automatically give somebody probable cause

974
00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:40,187
automatically give somebody probable cause
for an

975
00:53:40,187 --> 00:53:43,042
arrest because of a picture that was taken
of the car.

976
00:53:43,042 --> 00:53:46,162
It's just, you're— there's so many— so
much glass involved.

977
00:53:46,162 --> 00:53:49,493
Think about it, the windshield, the side
windows, window tints,

978
00:53:49,493 --> 00:53:53,195
it's almost impossible to see in the
Vehicle, you know, and then like,

979
00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:55,151
I just hone in on the plate. Correct.

980
00:53:55,151 --> 00:54:02,362
Right. I think that that's an important
point for the public, is that we can—

981
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,035
those of us who know the vernacular, we
can say it's not probable cause.

982
00:54:08,179 --> 00:54:15,183
But perhaps that would be part of the Q&A
or the FAQ to explain exactly what that

983
00:54:15,183 --> 00:54:22,273
means. Probable cause means you can make
an arrest based upon this one Photograph.

984
00:54:22,452 --> 00:54:26,971
Yeah, there's other investigative steps
that need to take place once you identify

985
00:54:26,971 --> 00:54:27,026
that need to take place once you identify
a

986
00:54:27,026 --> 00:54:27,919
suspect vehicle.

987
00:54:27,919 --> 00:54:29,411
Thank you.

988
00:54:29,927 --> 00:54:30,024
Yeah.

989
00:54:30,024 --> 00:54:30,347
Welcome.

990
00:54:30,347 --> 00:54:36,141
So it was earlier mentioned that not all
the officers in the department have

991
00:54:36,141 --> 00:54:41,554
access to, you know, the, the LPR data
from the Real Time Crime Center.

992
00:54:41,554 --> 00:54:47,195
I assume— well, Detective Fielding
obviously does. Chief, I assume you do.

993
00:54:47,195 --> 00:54:52,379
What other What would— what other
situation would, you know, create—

994
00:54:52,379 --> 00:54:54,895
why would an officer have access?

995
00:54:54,895 --> 00:55:00,224
We generally try and keep it in-house to
supervisors and stuff like that.

996
00:55:00,224 --> 00:55:05,627
There are a couple of officers that like
to follow up on some of their own

997
00:55:05,627 --> 00:55:11,394
cases, so we may give them temporary
access to use it to follow up on their own

998
00:55:11,394 --> 00:55:11,832
cases.

999
00:55:11,832 --> 00:55:15,598
Okay. So as a general matter, it's the
detectives, sergeants,

1000
00:55:15,598 --> 00:55:17,759
and on a temporary basis, officers?

1001
00:55:17,759 --> 00:55:21,528
Generally supervisors and above. Okay.

1002
00:55:21,528 --> 00:55:23,951
But all sworn law enforcement?

1003
00:55:24,161 --> 00:55:24,354
Yeah.

1004
00:55:24,579 --> 00:55:25,513
Which is also important.

1005
00:55:25,690 --> 00:55:25,948
Yeah.

1006
00:55:25,948 --> 00:55:31,357
Anyone using the system has to go to
Westchester County?

1007
00:55:31,357 --> 00:55:33,567
No, no, no.

1008
00:55:33,567 --> 00:55:34,183
You can log in?

1009
00:55:34,252 --> 00:55:38,207
Correct.

1010
00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:44,176
You know, we didn't touch base on the ones
in the cars.

1011
00:55:44,176 --> 00:55:47,738
We do have ones in some of the patrol cars
that, you know, I mean,

1012
00:55:47,738 --> 00:55:51,949
the officers are driving around and it
reads the license plates as they go by.

1013
00:55:51,949 --> 00:55:55,727
And it may pop up on the screen that this
car has a suspended license,

1014
00:55:55,727 --> 00:55:59,560
that's probable cause to pull them over,
you know, and stuff like that.

1015
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,097
So, you know, we do have several of those
also.

1016
00:56:02,097 --> 00:56:03,301
Correct.

1017
00:56:03,301 --> 00:56:05,779
We keep that data In-house?

1018
00:56:06,218 --> 00:56:07,358
It's on the same, same system.

1019
00:56:07,423 --> 00:56:08,091
Same system.

1020
00:56:08,156 --> 00:56:08,726
Same system.

1021
00:56:09,215 --> 00:56:09,296
Yeah.

1022
00:56:09,362 --> 00:56:10,534
What about our parking enforcement?

1023
00:56:10,534 --> 00:56:13,445
That's, that's non-law enforcement.

1024
00:56:13,445 --> 00:56:17,769
So that's just used for enforcement and
for permits.

1025
00:56:17,769 --> 00:56:20,597
So they don't have access to that.

1026
00:56:20,774 --> 00:56:20,999
Correct.

1027
00:56:21,112 --> 00:56:23,028
And we're not really storing that either.

1028
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:26,323
Not that I'm aware of. Yeah.

1029
00:56:26,323 --> 00:56:29,399
So that's just, it's just, you know,

1030
00:56:29,399 --> 00:56:32,817
maintained by our parking permit vendor.

1031
00:56:33,727 --> 00:56:38,485
You know, the big thing with our cameras
is we're not using them to focus on any

1032
00:56:38,485 --> 00:56:41,042
particular person, group, or anything
else.

1033
00:56:41,042 --> 00:56:44,670
They're just used for investigative
purposes if we need them.

1034
00:56:44,670 --> 00:56:48,892
Okay, other than that, they just sit there
and take pictures of plates.

1035
00:56:48,892 --> 00:56:51,276
And I think a big concern with the Flock,

1036
00:56:51,276 --> 00:56:55,230
this Flock movement that seems to be
growing, is, uh, you know, who,

1037
00:56:55,230 --> 00:56:59,532
who has access to it, who can access it,
who is Flock giving it to, right?

1038
00:56:59,532 --> 00:57:02,265
In our situation, We know who has access
to it—

1039
00:57:02,265 --> 00:57:05,056
cops that work in Westchester and Putnam,
right?

1040
00:57:05,056 --> 00:57:07,963
Or who are assigned to the Real Time Crime
Center.

1041
00:57:07,963 --> 00:57:12,672
So it's not just some random third-party
company that happened to grow nationwide

1042
00:57:12,672 --> 00:57:14,242
and is giving the data out.

1043
00:57:14,242 --> 00:57:20,882
But in your experience with FLOC, you are
required to share a case number.

1044
00:57:20,882 --> 00:57:23,880
Correct. And I don't even deal with FLOC
directly.

1045
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,557
I deal with a crime analysis center that
then takes a day or two to get me the

1046
00:57:28,557 --> 00:57:30,296
results that I'm looking for.

1047
00:57:30,296 --> 00:57:34,732
So it's not like I can just log in and
peek at what's going on with Flock.

1048
00:57:34,732 --> 00:57:39,769
There's a process, which I imagine is the
same process for an outside agency looking

1049
00:57:39,769 --> 00:57:43,606
to get data from the county police. Hey,
I'm investigating this.

1050
00:57:43,606 --> 00:57:48,523
This is my case number. I'm looking for
this crime window in this location, right?

1051
00:57:48,523 --> 00:57:52,600
And the county police, again, I don't work
for them, They, I'm sure,

1052
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,478
have their policy on how to answer those
things,

1053
00:57:55,478 --> 00:58:00,155
but I know that a lawful request for
information, I'm sure they would provide.

1054
00:58:00,155 --> 00:58:04,444
So who would work on this FAQ?

1055
00:58:04,444 --> 00:58:09,591
Is it like, would it start with you,

1056
00:58:09,591 --> 00:58:15,453
manager, and then you would get the input

1057
00:58:15,453 --> 00:58:17,740
from— Detective.

1058
00:58:17,788 --> 00:58:21,504
Yeah, I mean, I'll have to— I will talk to
the chief about it and see.

1059
00:58:21,810 --> 00:58:21,922
Yeah.

1060
00:58:21,986 --> 00:58:27,136
So, but we'll combine our forces and put
it together.

1061
00:58:27,282 --> 00:58:27,993
Yeah. Thank you.

1062
00:58:27,993 --> 00:58:31,914
And then from a timeline perspective on
kind of a

1063
00:58:31,914 --> 00:58:35,996
separate issue, where are we at with the
body cams?

1064
00:58:35,996 --> 00:58:40,720
The body cams, the manager and I have a
meeting tomorrow.

1065
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,113
We're going to try and finalize the
policies we have.

1066
00:58:45,113 --> 00:58:46,936
Once we finalize them,

1067
00:58:46,936 --> 00:58:53,153
we have to send them back to Lexipol
because they're the only ones that can

1068
00:58:53,153 --> 00:58:53,484
because they're the only ones that can
edit

1069
00:58:53,484 --> 00:58:57,214
what we changed. Okay, once we get that
back,

1070
00:58:57,214 --> 00:59:01,026
we're going to put it in part of our
policies.

1071
00:59:01,026 --> 00:59:07,574
We're going to send it out to the rank and
file so that they have a copy of it.

1072
00:59:07,574 --> 00:59:13,293
I have a meeting scheduled for September
9th, I believe, to sit down.

1073
00:59:13,293 --> 00:59:17,769
It's going to be a staff meeting with the
supervisors.

1074
00:59:17,769 --> 00:59:23,488
We're going to start to explain what the
policy and program is about.

1075
00:59:23,488 --> 00:59:25,974
We have the cameras right now.

1076
00:59:25,974 --> 00:59:26,618
Okay.

1077
00:59:26,618 --> 00:59:29,564
They're in. We don't have them in the cars
yet.

1078
00:59:29,564 --> 00:59:31,757
That's going to be coming soon too,

1079
00:59:31,757 --> 00:59:36,207
because you'll have both body cams and
you'll have cameras in the cars.

1080
00:59:36,207 --> 00:59:38,526
We're hoping to have this rolled out.

1081
00:59:38,526 --> 00:59:42,224
We're hoping to have it rolled out by the
end of September,

1082
00:59:42,224 --> 00:59:45,921
where people start using them. That's our,
that's our goal.

1083
00:59:45,921 --> 00:59:47,739
We're hoping to achieve that.

1084
00:59:47,739 --> 00:59:52,562
So just from a communications perspective
to the public, I think—

1085
00:59:52,562 --> 00:59:56,936
Yeah, we need to, we need to have a
comprehensive message.

1086
00:59:56,936 --> 01:00:00,574
Another FAQ and maybe video. Yeah.

1087
01:00:00,862 --> 01:00:01,727
Yep.

1088
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:07,011
And then what, you know, I would like to
see the policy, you know,

1089
01:00:07,011 --> 01:00:09,253
just to understand what it is.

1090
01:00:09,253 --> 01:00:10,392
Yeah, we've been working—

1091
01:00:10,392 --> 01:00:11,757
Kind of an overview of what it is.

1092
01:00:11,757 --> 01:00:14,706
We've been working with Labor Council for
a while now.

1093
01:00:14,706 --> 01:00:18,310
I mean, there were, there were, there were
some breaks in between,

1094
01:00:18,310 --> 01:00:22,897
but we've probably been working on it for
4 or 5 months, going back and forth about,

1095
01:00:22,897 --> 01:00:26,338
you know, what to include, what not to
include, what, you know,

1096
01:00:26,338 --> 01:00:27,703
what needs to be revised.

1097
01:00:27,703 --> 01:00:31,963
And that's— hopefully we're having our
final meeting tomorrow where we can all

1098
01:00:31,963 --> 01:00:32,181
final meeting tomorrow where we can all
come

1099
01:00:32,181 --> 01:00:33,055
to An agreement.

1100
01:00:33,055 --> 01:00:37,808
And that data is being housed by our—

1101
01:00:37,808 --> 01:00:40,136
Housed in-house, right?

1102
01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:41,068
Housed in-house.

1103
01:00:41,068 --> 01:00:41,276
Yeah.

1104
01:00:41,421 --> 01:00:42,095
The body cam data?

1105
01:00:42,095 --> 01:00:42,384
Yeah.

1106
01:00:42,384 --> 01:00:45,981
Aren't we paying $50,000 a year for cloud
storage?

1107
01:00:45,981 --> 01:00:50,943
Yes, but it goes to a cloud storage for—
to keep the, you know, so cool.

1108
01:00:50,943 --> 01:00:54,182
So we have it for an indefinite period of
time.

1109
01:00:54,182 --> 01:00:59,144
But, you know, it's housed so we can just
access it. So that's our goal.

1110
01:00:59,144 --> 01:01:04,795
Hopefully by, you know, October 1st, you
know, we can have everything operational.

1111
01:01:04,795 --> 01:01:10,584
We may have it sooner, it may be a couple
weeks later, but we're going to have them.

1112
01:01:10,584 --> 01:01:13,478
Like I said, the, the equipment is in now.

1113
01:01:13,478 --> 01:01:17,545
We have to start setting it up, we have to
start assigning,

1114
01:01:17,545 --> 01:01:22,162
but we want to get the policy done because
we don't know, you know,

1115
01:01:22,162 --> 01:01:26,848
it is a It is a subject that we have to
negotiate with the union on.

1116
01:01:26,848 --> 01:01:32,086
So we have to make sure that they don't
have any issues with the policy too.

1117
01:01:32,086 --> 01:01:36,014
So the policy might change a little after
we finalize it.

1118
01:01:36,094 --> 01:01:40,038
But I mean, we've already— we've had
initial conversations with the, with the

1119
01:01:40,038 --> 01:01:40,346
initial conversations with the, with the
union,

1120
01:01:40,346 --> 01:01:41,114
with the union.

1121
01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:46,133
So, so yeah, we don't see anything coming
out of that.

1122
01:01:46,133 --> 01:01:51,999
I know cloud storage makes the public
anxious because of how it could be

1123
01:01:51,999 --> 01:01:56,888
hacked, or, you know, so if, as you're
reviewing the policy,

1124
01:01:56,888 --> 01:02:02,021
if you could just shed a little light
about this cloud storage,

1125
01:02:02,021 --> 01:02:04,547
the protections that are on it.

1126
01:02:04,820 --> 01:02:05,174
Sure.

1127
01:02:05,479 --> 01:02:05,928
Thank you.

1128
01:02:06,121 --> 01:02:07,085
Yep.

1129
01:02:07,085 --> 01:02:12,073
It would be great in the FAQ is if we saw
a mocked-up picture or an actual picture

1130
01:02:12,073 --> 01:02:16,817
with obviously no— but just kind of what
you see, just to give people an idea.

1131
01:02:16,817 --> 01:02:20,893
of like, this is a car with a license
plate kind of thing blown up,

1132
01:02:20,893 --> 01:02:25,211
just so people can understand a little bit
about, you know, what it is,

1133
01:02:25,211 --> 01:02:27,036
how much detail you're seeing?

1134
01:02:27,036 --> 01:02:30,991
I could certainly check with the county
police

1135
01:02:30,991 --> 01:02:35,290
about what we'd be able to release and get
back to

1136
01:02:35,290 --> 01:02:35,634
you.

1137
01:02:35,634 --> 01:02:36,511
Yeah, I mean, if need be,

1138
01:02:36,511 --> 01:02:39,179
we could have just one of the police
vehicles go through and pull the plate.

1139
01:02:39,179 --> 01:02:41,397
I think we might have their own people to
do something.

1140
01:02:41,397 --> 01:02:41,834
Yeah.

1141
01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:42,093
Okay.

1142
01:02:43,420 --> 01:02:46,808
You know, because it'll be our cars and
stuff like that.

1143
01:02:46,808 --> 01:02:49,652
So, so that's where we are with, with all
that.

1144
01:02:49,652 --> 01:02:52,435
So I'm hoping to get it implemented very
soon.

1145
01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:54,258
Yeah, thank you so much.

1146
01:02:54,258 --> 01:02:57,374
It's a lot of work pulling that together,

1147
01:02:57,374 --> 01:03:00,869
but the public is super grateful, I, I'm
sure,

1148
01:03:00,869 --> 01:03:02,768
for seeing how it's used.

1149
01:03:02,768 --> 01:03:03,172
Of course.

1150
01:03:03,672 --> 01:03:03,817
Thank you.

1151
01:03:03,930 --> 01:03:06,652
Well, I mean, if any questions develop out
of tonight,

1152
01:03:06,652 --> 01:03:09,727
you can let us know and we'll answer them
for you. Thank you.

1153
01:03:09,727 --> 01:03:10,290
Thank you.

1154
01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:10,918
You're welcome.

1155
01:03:10,918 --> 01:03:11,546
Thank you, Detective.

1156
01:03:11,546 --> 01:03:12,222
You're welcome.

1157
01:03:12,222 --> 01:03:12,496
Good evening.

1158
01:03:12,496 --> 01:03:13,205
Have a good night.

1159
01:03:13,205 --> 01:03:13,897
Thank you.

1160
01:03:13,897 --> 01:03:17,118
Can we take like a 3-minute break?

1161
01:03:17,118 --> 01:03:18,072
Yeah, we can take 3 minutes break.

1162
01:03:18,072 --> 01:03:35,523
Let personnel switch around here.

1163
01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:01,089
Statement from the county.

1164
01:04:01,089 --> 01:04:05,401
What she did was give like a personal
assurance that the county would never use

1165
01:04:05,401 --> 01:04:05,619
assurance that the county would never use
this

1166
01:04:05,619 --> 01:04:09,713
for or would never hand it over. But
that's not— that was like her personal

1167
01:04:09,713 --> 01:04:10,150
that's not— that was like her personal
opinion.

1168
01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:13,971
And that's the way any legislator, any,
anyone would have answered it.

1169
01:04:13,971 --> 01:04:18,392
I understand why she did. But I think the
ask needs to be directly to the county.

1170
01:04:18,392 --> 01:04:21,558
We need to see, as you said, what their
policy looks like.

1171
01:04:21,558 --> 01:04:23,850
And we need to understand because I don't—

1172
01:04:23,850 --> 01:04:24,524
the county doesn't own it.

1173
01:04:24,589 --> 01:04:25,199
RECOR owns it.

1174
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:25,359
Right.

1175
01:04:25,553 --> 01:04:28,671
And we have no idea what RECORP,
absolutely no idea what RECORP is doing.

1176
01:04:28,671 --> 01:04:29,204
So—

1177
01:04:29,204 --> 01:04:30,836
Not—

1178
01:04:30,836 --> 01:04:31,984
She's on vacation?

1179
01:04:31,984 --> 01:04:32,404
No.

1180
01:04:32,565 --> 01:04:33,357
I know that this is on.

1181
01:04:33,357 --> 01:04:35,850
All right, well—

1182
01:04:35,850 --> 01:04:37,987
Should we break it?

1183
01:04:37,987 --> 01:04:40,061
Yeah, just don't—

1184
01:04:40,237 --> 01:04:40,366
this is—

1185
01:04:40,864 --> 01:04:42,053
we're not meeting— this is not—

1186
01:04:42,648 --> 01:04:42,986
let's stop.

1187
01:04:42,986 --> 01:04:48,356
I don't feel like my questions were
necessarily answered

1188
01:04:48,356 --> 01:04:50,465
by the people we— Had,

1189
01:04:50,465 --> 01:04:53,917
not because they couldn't answer it.

1190
01:04:53,917 --> 01:04:54,351
Yes.

1191
01:04:54,351 --> 01:04:57,032
Because they couldn't answer it, not
because they weren't answering it.

1192
01:04:57,032 --> 01:05:17,544
It's the beginning of a process, as with
all things.

1193
01:05:48,768 --> 01:05:49,872
You can make that smaller.

1194
01:05:49,872 --> 01:05:53,244
The kids off to

1195
01:05:53,244 --> 01:05:55,717
school now?

1196
01:05:55,717 --> 01:05:58,415
Isabel left.

1197
01:05:58,577 --> 01:06:01,242
Isabel went Sunday. Frankie's going a week
from Friday.

1198
01:06:03,034 --> 01:06:04,529
So it's like madness.

1199
01:06:05,325 --> 01:06:06,445
Madness.

1200
01:06:07,095 --> 01:06:07,582
You have a dog, right?

1201
01:06:09,387 --> 01:06:13,711
Uh, yeah, so we're gonna return— we're
gonna begin a regular session.

1202
01:06:13,711 --> 01:06:16,218
Um, so we've concluded our work session,

1203
01:06:16,218 --> 01:06:19,101
so please join me in the Pledge of
Allegiance.

1204
01:06:19,101 --> 01:06:24,331
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of

1205
01:06:24,331 --> 01:06:28,894
America and to the republic for which it
stands,

1206
01:06:28,894 --> 01:06:32,127
one nation under God, indivisible,

1207
01:06:32,127 --> 01:06:35,265
with liberty and justice for all.

1208
01:06:35,592 --> 01:06:40,569
All right, our first item of

1209
01:06:40,569 --> 01:06:45,369
business is the approval of

1210
01:06:45,369 --> 01:06:46,969
vouchers.

1211
01:06:46,969 --> 01:06:52,033
Yes, Wednesday, August 5th meeting.

1212
01:06:52,033 --> 01:06:56,084
General fund is $545,512.10.

1213
01:06:56,084 --> 01:06:59,517
Water fund, $54,368.97.

1214
01:07:02,517 --> 01:07:04,024
The sewer fund is $2,204.31.

1215
01:07:06,633 --> 01:07:13,255
Capital fund, $152,208.52. And trust fund,
$8,490.02.

1216
01:07:13,255 --> 01:07:17,677
Uh, do I have a motion to approve?

1217
01:07:17,677 --> 01:07:18,577
So moved.

1218
01:07:18,577 --> 01:07:19,171
Second.

1219
01:07:19,171 --> 01:07:22,754
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. All in favor?

1220
01:07:22,754 --> 01:07:23,332
Aye.

1221
01:07:23,332 --> 01:07:26,095
All right.

1222
01:07:26,095 --> 01:07:27,465
We have the next warrant.

1223
01:07:27,465 --> 01:07:28,613
Oh, okay. Excuse me.

1224
01:07:29,132 --> 01:07:30,925
Next warrant, August 19th.

1225
01:07:31,378 --> 01:07:34,878
General fund, $182,077.50.

1226
01:07:34,878 --> 01:07:37,975
Water fund, $12,054.52.

1227
01:07:37,975 --> 01:07:40,937
Sewer fund, $3,807.15.

1228
01:07:43,060 --> 01:07:44,682
And the capital fund, $810,638.15.

1229
01:07:44,682 --> 01:07:49,430
Do I have a motion to approve?

1230
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:50,627
So moved.

1231
01:07:50,627 --> 01:07:51,209
Second.

1232
01:07:51,209 --> 01:07:54,735
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. All in favor?

1233
01:07:56,959 --> 01:07:57,556
Aye.

1234
01:07:57,556 --> 01:08:01,241
All right, we proceed to responses to
questions submitted via email. Manager?

1235
01:08:01,241 --> 01:08:02,340
No questions, Mayor.

1236
01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:05,796
All right, very good. We proceed to public
comment on agenda items.

1237
01:08:05,796 --> 01:08:09,459
Anyone with any, uh, who would like to
speak to any item on the agenda,

1238
01:08:09,459 --> 01:08:12,812
this is your opportunity. Uh, please state
your name and address.

1239
01:08:12,812 --> 01:08:14,256
All speakers have 5 minutes.

1240
01:08:14,256 --> 01:08:18,608
Good evening, uh, Manager, Mayor, and
members of the board. I'm Tom Kaplan.

1241
01:08:18,608 --> 01:08:20,755
I'm a captain in the fire department.

1242
01:08:20,755 --> 01:08:24,643
And I have the privilege of chairing our
Fire Prevention Committee.

1243
01:08:24,643 --> 01:08:29,169
I'm here tonight to provide a brief update
on our upcoming fire prevention and

1244
01:08:29,169 --> 01:08:32,129
education programs heading into our
busiest season.

1245
01:08:32,129 --> 01:08:36,945
The National Fire Protection Association's
annual Fire Prevention Week kicks off on

1246
01:08:36,945 --> 01:08:38,454
Sunday, October 4th, 2026.

1247
01:08:38,454 --> 01:08:42,690
To mark the occasion, the fire department
will host our annual Fire Fair,

1248
01:08:42,690 --> 01:08:47,216
a staple event we've proudly held right
here in the village for over 30 years.

1249
01:08:47,216 --> 01:08:52,032
We invite you all and all members of the
public to join us on October 4th from 1 to

1250
01:08:52,032 --> 01:08:53,715
5 PM at our Harmon Firehouse.

1251
01:08:53,715 --> 01:08:57,429
This year's theme builds on last year's
Charge into Fire Safety:

1252
01:08:57,429 --> 01:08:59,170
Safe Charging is a Superpower.

1253
01:08:59,170 --> 01:09:03,232
The NFPA is continuing to report an
increase in battery-related fires,

1254
01:09:03,232 --> 01:09:07,410
which underscores the critical need for
public education and safe use of

1255
01:09:07,410 --> 01:09:08,048
public education and safe use of
lithium-ion

1256
01:09:08,048 --> 01:09:09,324
batteries and devices.

1257
01:09:09,324 --> 01:09:14,199
Accordingly, we're in the final stages of
coordinating our senior outreach and local

1258
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:17,332
school assemblies. leading up to Fire
Prevention Week,

1259
01:09:17,332 --> 01:09:20,756
along with updating our website and social
media materials.

1260
01:09:20,756 --> 01:09:25,340
I would be remiss if I didn't express our
committee's deep appreciation for the

1261
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:27,255
support of our entire department.

1262
01:09:27,255 --> 01:09:31,781
These dedicated volunteers not only give
up their time to train and respond to

1263
01:09:31,781 --> 01:09:36,539
alarms, but they also prepare and execute
these vital public relations initiatives

1264
01:09:36,539 --> 01:09:41,008
year-round. I'd also like to thank the
numerous village departments that make

1265
01:09:41,008 --> 01:09:41,240
numerous village departments that make
fire

1266
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,070
fair possible— EMS, engineering, police,
public works, recreation—

1267
01:09:45,070 --> 01:09:46,985
and all the amazing staff office.

1268
01:09:46,985 --> 01:09:50,002
We're also teaming up with several outside
agencies.

1269
01:09:50,002 --> 01:09:54,412
This includes having the Westchester
County Department of Emergency Services

1270
01:09:54,412 --> 01:09:58,822
Communications Division on site this year
for our Learn to Call 911 station.

1271
01:09:58,822 --> 01:10:02,768
Kids will get to talk to a live dispatcher
learning how to call 911.

1272
01:10:02,768 --> 01:10:07,468
Additionally, we've secured sponsorships
from several local business partners for

1273
01:10:07,468 --> 01:10:09,151
various fire safety stations.

1274
01:10:09,151 --> 01:10:13,909
This is an arrangement that significantly
reduces our overall cost and strengthens

1275
01:10:13,909 --> 01:10:16,463
our ties with the Croton business
community.

1276
01:10:16,463 --> 01:10:21,221
Finally, we're extremely grateful to the
board for your consideration in funding a

1277
01:10:21,221 --> 01:10:23,078
new Sparky the Fire Dog costume.

1278
01:10:23,078 --> 01:10:26,676
Because our previous costume served us
well for over a decade,

1279
01:10:26,676 --> 01:10:31,260
this new suit will be a lasting tool for
the village for several years to come.

1280
01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:35,148
It's a tremendous asset for engaging the
public with our messaging,

1281
01:10:35,148 --> 01:10:39,558
and we're hopeful that Sparky's cousin
Smokey the Bear may pay us a visit as

1282
01:10:39,558 --> 01:10:39,848
Smokey the Bear may pay us a visit as
we're

1283
01:10:39,848 --> 01:10:42,169
in coordination with the New York State—

1284
01:10:42,169 --> 01:10:42,265
Thank you.

1285
01:10:42,330 --> 01:10:44,504
Forest Service. With the exception of
Sparky,

1286
01:10:44,504 --> 01:10:47,837
we've secured all the other resources
required for this year's event.

1287
01:10:47,837 --> 01:10:51,750
We can't wait to see everyone there, and
we thank you very much for your support.

1288
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:52,553
Thank you.

1289
01:10:52,617 --> 01:10:53,291
Thank you.

1290
01:10:53,419 --> 01:10:53,756
Thank you.

1291
01:10:54,158 --> 01:10:55,729
Wait, can I ask you a question?

1292
01:10:55,729 --> 01:10:58,972
Are you asking for the funding for Sparky
for this year's event?

1293
01:10:58,972 --> 01:11:03,476
Uh, yes, ma'am, and I believe there is a
resolution on the agenda tonight,

1294
01:11:03,476 --> 01:11:08,528
so we're eager, uh, we're eager to see if
that passes through, and then, uh, we're,

1295
01:11:08,528 --> 01:11:10,780
we're prepared to cut that Fantastic.

1296
01:11:10,942 --> 01:11:11,346
Thank you.

1297
01:11:11,459 --> 01:11:11,734
Thank you.

1298
01:11:11,734 --> 01:11:19,083
Mayor, is it appropriate to talk about the
presentation that you had previously?

1299
01:11:19,083 --> 01:11:23,842
Yes, that was— that would— I'll count that
as an agenda item. So, yep.

1300
01:11:23,842 --> 01:11:26,066
Joe Stringy, Assistant Fire Chief.

1301
01:11:26,066 --> 01:11:30,513
As you heard Tom just mention, the
increase in battery fires that he

1302
01:11:30,513 --> 01:11:31,167
increase in battery fires that he
mentioned,

1303
01:11:31,167 --> 01:11:32,605
according to the NFPA,

1304
01:11:32,605 --> 01:11:36,856
and of course we've had a few in our own
village of those things,

1305
01:11:36,856 --> 01:11:41,565
makes this a concern for us because
obviously we have to protect it all.

1306
01:11:41,565 --> 01:11:46,797
The battery storage systems that Lindsay
talked about, when we get to, you know,

1307
01:11:46,797 --> 01:11:49,413
siting them, a couple things concern me.

1308
01:11:49,413 --> 01:11:54,187
One is, you know, location, location,
location, exposures that we have to

1309
01:11:54,187 --> 01:11:54,710
location, exposures that we have to
protect,

1310
01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:56,149
things of that nature.

1311
01:11:56,149 --> 01:12:01,185
But the other thing that I need to
consider at this point in time is we don't

1312
01:12:01,185 --> 01:12:01,446
consider at this point in time is we don't
have

1313
01:12:01,446 --> 01:12:06,940
all of the information we should have and
need for the current battery storage area.

1314
01:12:06,940 --> 01:12:11,518
I can't tell you honestly, after doing
this job for the last 8 months,

1315
01:12:11,518 --> 01:12:16,684
whether it's on or off. They were nice
enough to provide us with a walkthrough.

1316
01:12:16,684 --> 01:12:20,870
Is there battery storage taking place? Are
those systems loaded?

1317
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:24,793
I can't say I know for sure. I think
that's a good question.

1318
01:12:24,793 --> 01:12:29,633
But there's things such as the fire safety
plan, additional fire training.

1319
01:12:29,633 --> 01:12:33,361
Well, they did do a walkthrough with us a
few months ago.

1320
01:12:33,361 --> 01:12:37,939
All of the things that are required, um, I
don't believe are in place.

1321
01:12:37,939 --> 01:12:40,881
An example, that the Knox box they
installed,

1322
01:12:40,881 --> 01:12:46,048
which was very nice so we could gain
access to the facility, has nothing in it.

1323
01:12:46,048 --> 01:12:49,579
Another example, I know you've had some
ups and downs,

1324
01:12:49,579 --> 01:12:54,942
or they've had some ups and downs with the
contractor, the management of Location,

1325
01:12:54,942 --> 01:12:57,951
change of ownership, whatever the case may
be.

1326
01:12:57,951 --> 01:13:02,528
But before we start going into more
battery systems in the village, A,

1327
01:13:02,528 --> 01:13:06,125
we want to play a role in that, which I'm
sure we will,

1328
01:13:06,125 --> 01:13:11,553
and we want to understand the areas that
they're going to go into because we've got

1329
01:13:11,553 --> 01:13:16,851
to protect them. The other thing that's a
little bit outside the box is, I guess,

1330
01:13:16,851 --> 01:13:18,159
a question to Brian.

1331
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:23,129
Do we require financials from these
investment companies Lindsay started out

1332
01:13:23,129 --> 01:13:23,521
investment companies Lindsay started out
saying

1333
01:13:23,521 --> 01:13:26,660
there was 100 of them, and we only heard
from 6,

1334
01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:31,565
and a lot of them have been in business,
out of business, sold, this, that,

1335
01:13:31,565 --> 01:13:32,873
and the other thing.

1336
01:13:32,873 --> 01:13:37,778
I'm hoping that we do get financials from
them to see how solvent they are,

1337
01:13:37,778 --> 01:13:43,272
and are they going to move forward with us
in a progressive way as an entity and not

1338
01:13:43,272 --> 01:13:47,588
just make an installation for us and find
out in a year or 2 or 5.

1339
01:13:47,588 --> 01:13:47,781
Okay.

1340
01:13:48,248 --> 01:13:53,518
That they're no longer in business or
somebody else bought them and they don't

1341
01:13:53,518 --> 01:13:53,788
somebody else bought them and they don't
care

1342
01:13:53,788 --> 01:13:57,369
about battery systems that are placed in
our village.

1343
01:13:57,369 --> 01:14:01,895
So that's something that I think the RFP
should absolutely contain,

1344
01:14:01,895 --> 01:14:07,232
which I think is important to know what
their financial status is of any one of

1345
01:14:07,232 --> 01:14:11,894
those companies, especially after
listening to Lindsay's— some of his

1346
01:14:11,894 --> 01:14:12,772
listening to Lindsay's— some of his
explanations.

1347
01:14:12,772 --> 01:14:13,718
And that's it.

1348
01:14:14,084 --> 01:14:14,733
That's it for right now.

1349
01:14:14,733 --> 01:14:16,220
Thank you. Thank you.

1350
01:14:16,220 --> 01:14:17,514
Thank you.

1351
01:14:17,514 --> 01:14:25,364
I think it's just important to point out
that the battery system that's at the

1352
01:14:25,364 --> 01:14:33,213
train station, as well as the future
systems that may or may not be researched

1353
01:14:33,213 --> 01:14:36,836
further, are lithium iron phosphate.

1354
01:14:36,836 --> 01:14:43,880
They are not the lithium-ion that have
caught fire in previous places.

1355
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:48,711
The lithium iron phosphate is much more
durable.

1356
01:14:48,872 --> 01:14:52,075
Yeah. But the chief raises good points and
we'll—

1357
01:14:52,075 --> 01:14:55,708
Well, I will investigate his other, his
other points.

1358
01:14:55,708 --> 01:15:00,300
You know, I'm not, I'm not aware of what
the answers are right now.

1359
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:03,796
Just learning about them now. All right.
Thank you.

1360
01:15:03,796 --> 01:15:09,945
Ed Riley from Truesdale Drive. Thank you
to the chief for bringing those 2 items

1361
01:15:09,945 --> 01:15:10,175
to the chief for bringing those 2 items
up.

1362
01:15:10,175 --> 01:15:13,865
It's a shocker to know that the fire
department,

1363
01:15:13,865 --> 01:15:19,860
who has to respond everywhere and more
than usual to a government-run railroad

1364
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:20,090
than usual to a government-run railroad
and

1365
01:15:20,090 --> 01:15:22,550
the facilities nearby, does not—

1366
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:28,699
has not been told the status of a very
controversial type of power accumulation.

1367
01:15:28,699 --> 01:15:30,389
And the first thing I—

1368
01:15:30,389 --> 01:15:36,615
when he mentioned that they went to 41
companies or whatever and half of them are

1369
01:15:36,615 --> 01:15:40,535
out of business, we've seen this before
with buses,

1370
01:15:40,535 --> 01:15:44,301
electric buses and everything else under
the sun.

1371
01:15:44,301 --> 01:15:48,375
So thank you very much, Chief, for
bringing those up.

1372
01:15:48,375 --> 01:15:53,755
It's also interesting based upon the
camera presentation by the police

1373
01:15:53,755 --> 01:15:54,754
camera presentation by the police
department is

1374
01:15:54,754 --> 01:15:59,135
probably half the crimes are solved with
private cameras.

1375
01:15:59,135 --> 01:16:05,591
I provided information from my cameras on
Truesdale Drive for people stealing checks

1376
01:16:05,591 --> 01:16:11,279
out of mailboxes and stuff like that.
Sometimes we have them, sometimes we

1377
01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:11,740
Sometimes we have them, sometimes we
don't.

1378
01:16:11,740 --> 01:16:15,275
And, and I hope they continue to rely on
that.

1379
01:16:15,275 --> 01:16:21,578
What concerns me is the state of New York
just passed a law that says The state or

1380
01:16:21,578 --> 01:16:23,807
any one of its functionaries,

1381
01:16:23,807 --> 01:16:28,418
including the Village of Croton and their
police department,

1382
01:16:28,418 --> 01:16:33,261
can't cooperate with federal authorities
on illegal immigrants,

1383
01:16:33,261 --> 01:16:39,256
and that there are now 27,000 illegal
immigrants convicted of crimes which the

1384
01:16:39,256 --> 01:16:39,640
immigrants convicted of crimes which the
state

1385
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:45,328
of New York is not going to share
information with the federal government.

1386
01:16:45,328 --> 01:16:51,323
If that's the case, I hope the federal
government doesn't share any money with

1387
01:16:51,323 --> 01:16:51,707
government doesn't share any money with
them.

1388
01:16:51,707 --> 01:16:53,705
that would be appropriate.

1389
01:16:53,705 --> 01:16:59,162
And that's 17,000 convicted illegal
immigrants in the city of New York.

1390
01:16:59,162 --> 01:17:05,388
The city will not be able to share the
status of those criminals with the federal

1391
01:17:05,388 --> 01:17:10,230
government. So I would— and then I would
like to know, oh well,

1392
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:16,225
we'll do it for criminals, we'll do it for
murderers, we'll do it for rapists.

1393
01:17:16,225 --> 01:17:22,451
That's what you said when the state of New
York and its governor and its assembly

1394
01:17:22,451 --> 01:17:27,677
and its Senate passed no cash bail for
murderers, rapists, burglars,

1395
01:17:27,677 --> 01:17:33,288
and everybody else that committed crimes
in New York. We don't trust you.

1396
01:17:33,288 --> 01:17:35,901
You're not trustworthy. I'm sorry.

1397
01:17:35,901 --> 01:17:42,050
So, um, I hope that— it's certainly a big
issue with cameras and license plates.

1398
01:17:42,050 --> 01:17:46,354
Uh, also, a lot of the stuff on here has
to do with, um,

1399
01:17:46,354 --> 01:17:50,812
environmental review of projects. There's
3 items on here.

1400
01:17:50,812 --> 01:17:51,005
Yes.

1401
01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:54,772
Um, and that the current proposal,

1402
01:17:54,772 --> 01:17:58,989
which is creating so much heat besides
bringing pot to Croton,

1403
01:17:58,989 --> 01:18:04,090
which was a decision by the village board,
irrevocable, which shouldn't be,

1404
01:18:04,090 --> 01:18:06,539
but it's irrevocable, is to build a—

1405
01:18:06,539 --> 01:18:12,184
to encourage a 49-unit project across from
ShopRite, which, like the other project,

1406
01:18:12,184 --> 01:18:13,613
which was built by a,

1407
01:18:13,613 --> 01:18:18,578
a contractor with a good reputation as
opposed to a contractor with a bad

1408
01:18:18,578 --> 01:18:23,747
reputation. The one that's completed,
which is mostly luxury, is well built.

1409
01:18:23,747 --> 01:18:28,644
It just looks like crap, but it's well
built, and it was built too high.

1410
01:18:28,644 --> 01:18:34,358
In other words, the top deck is perfectly
viewable by the people on Van Wyck Street,

1411
01:18:34,358 --> 01:18:38,031
a place they used to live, so I know a lot
about that.

1412
01:18:38,031 --> 01:18:41,568
And its elevator and its appurtenances are
too high,

1413
01:18:41,568 --> 01:18:44,629
necessitating that that contractor come
back,

1414
01:18:44,629 --> 01:18:49,866
rebuild the reinforcement structures on
that hill about 3 different times and

1415
01:18:49,866 --> 01:18:50,206
that hill about 3 different times and
plant

1416
01:18:50,206 --> 01:18:55,239
trees, which then block the view of some
of the people on Van Wyck Street.

1417
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:58,572
So it looks like we're headed down the
same road.

1418
01:18:58,572 --> 01:19:02,041
And just for the review, I'd like to
remind people,

1419
01:19:02,041 --> 01:19:07,687
one of the worst offenders for pollution
besides the state of New York and its park

1420
01:19:07,687 --> 01:19:11,700
system and its railroad is Westchester
County sewer system.

1421
01:19:11,700 --> 01:19:13,944
And that they not once but twice,

1422
01:19:13,944 --> 01:19:19,250
the sewer system of Westchester County has
broken and dumped effluent into the

1423
01:19:19,250 --> 01:19:22,106
Hudson River system and the Croton system,

1424
01:19:22,106 --> 01:19:26,936
so much so that the Croton River was shut
down, I believe, for a month,

1425
01:19:26,936 --> 01:19:32,513
and the Hudson the Hudson River was shut
down for two months during the summertime

1426
01:19:32,513 --> 01:19:38,159
when it gets hot and people are supposed
to go swimming at places like Croton Point

1427
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:39,927
and the Hudson River, and.

1428
01:19:39,927 --> 01:19:45,505
denied you revenue because you couldn't
put canoes and kayaks on the Croton River.

1429
01:19:45,505 --> 01:19:47,477
Not that it's a lot of money.

1430
01:19:47,477 --> 01:19:49,246
So, and that sewer system,

1431
01:19:49,246 --> 01:19:54,347
which these major projects which you
encourage because there's 2 members of

1432
01:19:54,347 --> 01:19:54,619
encourage because there's 2 members of
your

1433
01:19:54,619 --> 01:20:00,128
board want to be a housing state housing
community where you pledge to change the

1434
01:20:00,128 --> 01:20:05,298
complexion of the community and to
encourage regional planning as opposed to

1435
01:20:05,298 --> 01:20:05,638
encourage regional planning as opposed to
local

1436
01:20:05,638 --> 01:20:10,059
planning. Which is what the citizens of
Croton elected you to do.

1437
01:20:10,059 --> 01:20:12,780
Thank you.

1438
01:20:12,780 --> 01:20:13,441
Thank you.

1439
01:20:13,441 --> 01:20:18,638
Hi, thank you. Um, my name is Nora
Regis-Odland. I'm on Van Wyck Street.

1440
01:20:18,638 --> 01:20:21,453
Uh, I am, uh, speaking today about the—

1441
01:20:21,453 --> 01:20:25,712
I know it's to schedule the public hearing
on Local Law 10.

1442
01:20:25,712 --> 01:20:30,837
But I did want to just address it now so
that— because I have concerns,

1443
01:20:30,837 --> 01:20:35,457
and hopefully we can revise it before
scheduling needs to occur.

1444
01:20:35,457 --> 01:20:40,727
I understand that something about the
pigeons was rooted in health risks.

1445
01:20:40,727 --> 01:20:44,841
However, I know Manager Healy has done a
lot of research,

1446
01:20:44,841 --> 01:20:50,616
and my friend Kate Elliott and I have as
well, and pigeons don't carry bird flu.

1447
01:20:50,616 --> 01:20:56,391
I know that there have been other members
of the public that are concerned about

1448
01:20:56,391 --> 01:20:58,917
that. Pigeons don't carry bird flu.

1449
01:20:58,917 --> 01:21:03,681
Their biggest risk comes from their
droppings when they are dried.

1450
01:21:03,681 --> 01:21:08,879
But even that, it's a disease I can't
pronounce, pituitosis, comes from—

1451
01:21:08,879 --> 01:21:14,004
there's only been 10 confirmed cases by
the CDC over the past 16 years.

1452
01:21:14,004 --> 01:21:17,108
And most of the symptoms, they're
flu-like.

1453
01:21:17,108 --> 01:21:21,511
It's not pleasant, but it only has like a
15% mortality rate.

1454
01:21:21,511 --> 01:21:27,069
Pigeon— not pigeons, Chickens, on the
other hand, actually do carry bird flu.

1455
01:21:27,069 --> 01:21:30,678
And I think that we should keep backyard
chickens.

1456
01:21:30,678 --> 01:21:34,865
I like the resolutions about backyard
chickens personally.

1457
01:21:34,865 --> 01:21:39,557
A friend mentioned that New York State
sells them in groups of 6,

1458
01:21:39,557 --> 01:21:44,682
so that might be something to go back and
look at. But I like chickens.

1459
01:21:44,682 --> 01:21:47,714
We aren't thinking about banning chickens.

1460
01:21:47,714 --> 01:21:49,807
So I, with my remaining time,

1461
01:21:49,807 --> 01:21:54,499
I'm going to read Kate's letter because I
think it's really good.

1462
01:21:54,499 --> 01:21:54,595
Okay.

1463
01:21:55,141 --> 01:21:57,277
Hi, to the mayor and board of trustees.

1464
01:21:57,277 --> 01:22:01,877
I'm writing because I'm having a hard time
understanding the need for a complete ban

1465
01:22:01,877 --> 01:22:06,258
on keeping pigeons in the village, and I
keep coming back to one basic question:

1466
01:22:06,258 --> 01:22:09,379
what is this specific problem the ban is
trying to solve?

1467
01:22:09,379 --> 01:22:11,132
If the concern is public health,

1468
01:22:11,132 --> 01:22:15,568
I'd like to understand what evidence shows
that responsibly kept domestic pigeons

1469
01:22:15,568 --> 01:22:16,827
pose a meaningful risk.

1470
01:22:16,827 --> 01:22:20,113
If the concern is cleanliness, odor,
noise, or overcrowding,

1471
01:22:20,113 --> 01:22:24,111
Those are issues that can be addressed
directly through reasonable rules—

1472
01:22:24,111 --> 01:22:27,670
sanitation standards, limits on flock
size, housing requirements,

1473
01:22:27,670 --> 01:22:29,751
enforcement of existing nuisance laws.

1474
01:22:29,751 --> 01:22:34,297
Those kinds of regulations would address
the actual concerns without banning pigeon

1475
01:22:34,297 --> 01:22:38,678
keeping altogether. I was also struck by
comments from the May 27th work session

1476
01:22:38,678 --> 01:22:43,059
where the village attorney reportedly
suggested that even a temporary moratorium

1477
01:22:43,059 --> 01:22:47,549
might be excessive, given that only one
resident has expressed interest in keeping

1478
01:22:47,549 --> 01:22:49,083
pigeons. If that's the case,

1479
01:22:49,083 --> 01:22:53,300
it's hard to understand why a permanent
village-wide prohibition is now being

1480
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:57,516
considered, especially one that would
exist and impact an existing keeper and

1481
01:22:57,516 --> 01:22:57,681
exist and impact an existing keeper and
his

1482
01:22:57,681 --> 01:23:01,624
birds. I'm also concerned about the
decision to not grandfather existing

1483
01:23:01,624 --> 01:23:02,062
decision to not grandfather existing
pigeons.

1484
01:23:02,062 --> 01:23:06,333
Tarrytown was mentioned as a nearby
example where pigeon keeping is prohibited

1485
01:23:06,333 --> 01:23:06,498
example where pigeon keeping is prohibited
but

1486
01:23:06,498 --> 01:23:08,524
existing owners are grandfathered in.

1487
01:23:08,524 --> 01:23:11,591
That feels like a reasonable and humane
compromise here.

1488
01:23:11,591 --> 01:23:14,712
If the village believes a ban is necessary
going forward,

1489
01:23:14,712 --> 01:23:17,012
Why not allow the current flock to remain?

1490
01:23:17,012 --> 01:23:19,093
If the board is rejecting that option,

1491
01:23:19,093 --> 01:23:23,365
I'd appreciate an explanation of what
specific harm would result from allowing

1492
01:23:23,365 --> 01:23:23,639
specific harm would result from allowing
these

1493
01:23:23,639 --> 01:23:26,431
existing birds to stay under reasonable
conditions.

1494
01:23:26,431 --> 01:23:30,429
I also want to ask how pigeons being
defined— would domesticated doves be

1495
01:23:30,429 --> 01:23:30,922
defined— would domesticated doves be
included?

1496
01:23:30,922 --> 01:23:34,372
Since pigeons and doves are part of the
same biological family,

1497
01:23:34,372 --> 01:23:38,425
that distinction matters, and it should be
spelled out clearly in any law.

1498
01:23:38,425 --> 01:23:41,875
Finally, I hope the board will consider
the animals themselves.

1499
01:23:41,875 --> 01:23:46,311
Pigeons are intelligent social animals
that form strong bonds with each other and

1500
01:23:46,311 --> 01:23:47,515
with their caretakers.

1501
01:23:47,515 --> 01:23:51,787
Asking someone to disperse an established
flock isn't just regulating a hobby.

1502
01:23:51,787 --> 01:23:55,785
It has real consequences for living
creatures that have formed a home and

1503
01:23:55,785 --> 01:23:56,113
creatures that have formed a home and
social

1504
01:23:56,113 --> 01:23:57,482
structure here in Croton.

1505
01:23:57,482 --> 01:24:00,823
I am not arguing for unlimited or
unregulated pigeon keeping.

1506
01:24:00,823 --> 01:24:03,944
If there's legitimate concerns, they
should be addressed.

1507
01:24:03,944 --> 01:24:06,902
But regulation and prohibition are not the
same thing,

1508
01:24:06,902 --> 01:24:10,352
and a ban should require a clear,
well-supported justification.

1509
01:24:10,352 --> 01:24:13,802
I'm going to skip her questions because
you guys have them, um,

1510
01:24:13,802 --> 01:24:17,252
and just go with her closer because it was
good. Also, hi Kate.

1511
01:24:17,252 --> 01:24:20,264
Um, if there's a specific issue at a
specific property,

1512
01:24:20,264 --> 01:24:22,126
that should be addressed directly,

1513
01:24:22,126 --> 01:24:26,452
but a village-wide ban feels like a very
broad solution to what appears to be a

1514
01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:26,671
broad solution to what appears to be a
very

1515
01:24:26,671 --> 01:24:30,778
limited situation. Croton's a community
that values fairness and thoughtful

1516
01:24:30,778 --> 01:24:34,064
decision-making, and I hope those values
guide this process.

1517
01:24:34,064 --> 01:24:37,952
At a minimum, I ask the board to
reconsider grandfathering the existing

1518
01:24:37,952 --> 01:24:38,390
reconsider grandfathering the existing
birds so

1519
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:40,800
they can remain with their owner. Thank
you.

1520
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,393
Thank you. Thank you.

1521
01:24:42,393 --> 01:24:49,505
Thank you.

1522
01:24:49,505 --> 01:24:51,606
Yes, of course.

1523
01:24:51,606 --> 01:24:56,175
Hi everyone. First, I feel like I'm—

1524
01:24:56,175 --> 01:24:57,793
Sir, would you mind stating your name and
address?

1525
01:24:57,793 --> 01:25:01,910
Uh, my name is Tony. I live on 148 Old
Post Road North.

1526
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:04,081
I'm the owner of the pigeons.

1527
01:25:04,081 --> 01:25:09,771
I feel like I own an explanation to the
town because I know a lot of people,

1528
01:25:09,771 --> 01:25:14,862
they've been supporting me and a lot of
people, they have questions.

1529
01:25:14,862 --> 01:25:18,755
So the pigeons I have, I tried to explain
last time,

1530
01:25:18,755 --> 01:25:22,423
but I think you guys were in a rush or
something.

1531
01:25:22,423 --> 01:25:28,337
So the pigeons I have, I vaccinate them 2
to 3 times a year. I train them well.

1532
01:25:28,337 --> 01:25:33,802
I release them once, once a day, probably
1 or 2 hours just for training.

1533
01:25:33,802 --> 01:25:39,417
I feed them on the wood feeder. They don't
get fed on the floor or outside.

1534
01:25:39,417 --> 01:25:44,882
As a specific person keeps describing
them, they're like rats or roaches.

1535
01:25:44,882 --> 01:25:49,598
They're not. They're blessed by Jesus
Christ. I feed them well.

1536
01:25:49,598 --> 01:25:53,790
I vaccinate them 2 to 3 times a year. I
train them well.

1537
01:25:53,790 --> 01:25:58,731
I feed them on the wood feeder. I water
them. They have their can.

1538
01:25:58,731 --> 01:26:01,277
It's not like they drink anywhere.

1539
01:26:01,277 --> 01:26:06,667
They have grids on the floor, which means
they won't be eating bad food.

1540
01:26:06,667 --> 01:26:11,233
So they're not going to contain— it's hard
to explain myself.

1541
01:26:11,233 --> 01:26:16,923
So it's not like they're going to get
disease from other pigeons because the

1542
01:26:16,923 --> 01:26:17,223
disease from other pigeons because the
food

1543
01:26:17,223 --> 01:26:23,062
they eat, they only eat it from the clean
Like feeder where I give it to them.

1544
01:26:23,062 --> 01:26:26,206
Whatever comes out, it goes down the grid,

1545
01:26:26,206 --> 01:26:29,350
and I clean them like 2 to 3 times a week.

1546
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:33,842
So it's not like they're gonna eat bad
food and get disease.

1547
01:26:33,842 --> 01:26:39,532
And honestly, I never heard about people
having problems for pigeons getting

1548
01:26:39,532 --> 01:26:44,997
different disease, which a person is—
again, I— it's been mentioning, um,

1549
01:26:44,997 --> 01:26:50,087
trying to explain himself, I guess, trying
to give people bad ideas.

1550
01:26:50,087 --> 01:26:52,558
So, uh, I don't know, like, it's,

1551
01:26:52,558 --> 01:26:58,172
it's very hard for me to explain myself
probably in English to you guys and

1552
01:26:58,172 --> 01:27:03,488
understand me well, but I've been keeping
them since I was 6 years old.

1553
01:27:03,488 --> 01:27:06,632
I never have any problems from, from them.

1554
01:27:06,632 --> 01:27:10,525
Um, my father had them I got this from
him. He died.

1555
01:27:10,525 --> 01:27:16,289
He passed from from this world, and I feel
like they're my memories from him.

1556
01:27:16,289 --> 01:27:22,353
So, so like dividing me from them is just
I I just can't see myself without them.

1557
01:27:22,353 --> 01:27:27,070
I specifically bought this house for them
because first of all,

1558
01:27:27,070 --> 01:27:29,540
when I saw the house, I searched.

1559
01:27:29,540 --> 01:27:35,005
This town, it shows like I'm so I could
keep pigeons, and that was a law.

1560
01:27:35,005 --> 01:27:39,197
So, and then I wanted to make sure I
called the village;

1561
01:27:39,197 --> 01:27:41,892
they told me I can keep the pigeons.

1562
01:27:41,892 --> 01:27:46,983
I emailed just to have a proof; they told
me I can keep the pigeons.

1563
01:27:46,983 --> 01:27:51,325
So now it feels like personal to me trying
to remove them.

1564
01:27:51,325 --> 01:27:56,191
And as I mentioned the last time, it I
mean this town is amazing.

1565
01:27:56,191 --> 01:28:01,357
It seems like everybody like it's very
respectful, but it seems like.

1566
01:28:01,357 --> 01:28:07,421
Somehow somebody got it personal with me,
which I don't even know the reason why.

1567
01:28:07,421 --> 01:28:11,838
But I don't understand why should I be
separated from them?

1568
01:28:11,838 --> 01:28:17,527
I don't understand why they should be
removed if I got done everything right

1569
01:28:17,527 --> 01:28:17,827
removed if I got done everything right
from

1570
01:28:17,827 --> 01:28:21,869
the beginning, pulled the permit, done the
shed right,

1571
01:28:21,869 --> 01:28:24,714
get the get the approved to keep them.

1572
01:28:24,714 --> 01:28:29,430
So I would really appreciate if I could
get an answer for that,

1573
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:32,575
and I just need to know what I done wrong.

1574
01:28:32,575 --> 01:28:38,339
Like, why do you guys have to remove them
if I done everything right from the

1575
01:28:38,339 --> 01:28:40,285
beginning? So that is all.

1576
01:28:40,285 --> 01:28:45,825
If anybody from town, they have any
questions after this, I could explain.

1577
01:28:45,825 --> 01:28:50,841
I could try to explain. I could answer any
questions you guys have.

1578
01:28:50,841 --> 01:28:56,755
It's not like I read something because I
didn't even know I'm supposed to stand

1579
01:28:56,755 --> 01:28:57,055
didn't even know I'm supposed to stand
here

1580
01:28:57,055 --> 01:29:00,798
and talk. I thought I was just supposed to
listen.

1581
01:29:00,798 --> 01:29:05,589
'Cause I just noticed yesterday this, this
meeting is happening.

1582
01:29:05,589 --> 01:29:09,332
I didn't even know I'm supposed to stand
and talk,

1583
01:29:09,332 --> 01:29:12,102
but I wasn't prepared for everything.

1584
01:29:12,102 --> 01:29:16,220
But if anybody has any questions after
we're done here,

1585
01:29:16,220 --> 01:29:20,711
I would be more than happy to explain
myself for everything.

1586
01:29:20,711 --> 01:29:23,107
Thank you so much for your time.

1587
01:29:23,107 --> 01:29:24,151
Thank you very much.

1588
01:29:24,151 --> 01:29:24,713
Thank you. Yeah.

1589
01:29:25,275 --> 01:29:27,266
I'm sorry for the loss of your father.

1590
01:29:27,266 --> 01:29:34,151
Thank you.

1591
01:29:37,151 --> 01:29:39,490
Anyone else wishing to comment on any
agenda items?

1592
01:29:39,490 --> 01:29:43,259
Mayor, I'll just note that we received a
number of

1593
01:29:43,259 --> 01:29:47,404
written comments which are posted as part
of the agenda

1594
01:29:47,404 --> 01:29:47,932
backup.

1595
01:29:47,932 --> 01:29:49,397
Thank you, Manager.

1596
01:29:49,687 --> 01:29:49,783
Yep.

1597
01:29:50,556 --> 01:29:52,629
And thank you for coming out to speak.

1598
01:29:52,629 --> 01:29:55,903
I know that this is a topic of a lot of
interest, and again,

1599
01:29:55,903 --> 01:29:59,394
as was previously noted, there will be a
public hearing on this.

1600
01:29:59,394 --> 01:30:02,668
The board is not making a final decision
tonight. Thank you.

1601
01:30:02,668 --> 01:30:05,014
All right, report from the village
manager.

1602
01:30:05,014 --> 01:30:05,889
Oh, thank you.

1603
01:30:08,889 --> 01:30:12,342
Okay, so just a few items this evening.

1604
01:30:12,342 --> 01:30:18,363
The first item I wanted to talk about was
PFAS and the water supply.

1605
01:30:18,363 --> 01:30:24,739
I understand that there was a some
commentary about this late last week.

1606
01:30:24,739 --> 01:30:26,952
Our water supply is safe.

1607
01:30:26,952 --> 01:30:33,682
It does have some low levels of PFAS
contamination, which are well below the

1608
01:30:33,682 --> 01:30:34,213
contamination, which are well below the
state,

1609
01:30:34,213 --> 01:30:37,135
the state and federal guidelines.

1610
01:30:37,135 --> 01:30:44,484
The exact levels are listed in our water
quality report that gets sent out to every

1611
01:30:44,484 --> 01:30:51,214
user of the Um, of the water system and is
available on the village website.

1612
01:30:51,214 --> 01:30:58,474
Um, but there is no, no reason that the
public should have any immediate concerns.

1613
01:30:58,474 --> 01:31:02,016
We constantly monitor the water quality.

1614
01:31:02,016 --> 01:31:06,621
Uh, the water is tested on a regular
basis, and, uh,

1615
01:31:06,621 --> 01:31:10,871
the test results are sent to Westchester
County.

1616
01:31:10,871 --> 01:31:14,235
And, um, you know, we have a very, uh,

1617
01:31:14,235 --> 01:31:21,231
Competent water department that maintains
our water pumps and our water supply.

1618
01:31:21,231 --> 01:31:26,543
And if there was at any point an issue or
concern, you know,

1619
01:31:26,543 --> 01:31:31,590
we would immediately communicate that
with, with all the,

1620
01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:34,512
all the residents of the village.

1621
01:31:34,512 --> 01:31:37,169
Um, that being said, you know,

1622
01:31:37,169 --> 01:31:43,632
we do want to take steps to recoup
whatever funds we can so that if there

1623
01:31:43,632 --> 01:31:44,341
whatever funds we can so that if there
needs to

1624
01:31:44,341 --> 01:31:48,680
be potential remediation in the future,
you know,

1625
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:55,409
the residents and the ratepayers of the
water fund do not have to fund that.

1626
01:31:55,409 --> 01:32:02,493
Why should, why should residents have to
pay the costs of what corporations did,

1627
01:32:02,493 --> 01:32:04,529
you know, 30 years ago?

1628
01:32:04,529 --> 01:32:11,967
So back in 2023, the board did retain this
law firm to represent us in these various

1629
01:32:11,967 --> 01:32:18,519
lawsuits. To date, we have Recouped over
$1 million in, in funds for this,

1630
01:32:18,519 --> 01:32:20,556
$1,078,778 to be exact.

1631
01:32:20,556 --> 01:32:22,947
And these funds are in the,

1632
01:32:22,947 --> 01:32:29,499
in the water fund and can be used for
future projects related to the water

1633
01:32:29,499 --> 01:32:30,119
future projects related to the water
system.

1634
01:32:30,119 --> 01:32:36,848
So those funds came from the corporations
that voluntarily agreed to settle.

1635
01:32:36,848 --> 01:32:38,442
With the attorney.

1636
01:32:38,442 --> 01:32:39,356
Transaction.

1637
01:32:39,356 --> 01:32:41,815
Correct. Yeah, with our law firm.

1638
01:32:41,815 --> 01:32:46,136
Um, the remaining, uh, companies that did
not settle were—

1639
01:32:46,136 --> 01:32:49,340
a lawsuit was filed against them last
week.

1640
01:32:49,340 --> 01:32:54,257
And so we will now, uh, you know, this law
firm, which is not our,

1641
01:32:54,257 --> 01:32:59,696
our village law firm, it's a special
counsel, uh, law firm, uh, you know,

1642
01:32:59,696 --> 01:33:05,880
they're going to represent us as this case
moves forward, and we will see what the,

1643
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,010
um, you know, what the verdict is on that.

1644
01:33:09,010 --> 01:33:14,672
So are there any questions on that before
I move into the rest of my report?

1645
01:33:15,457 --> 01:33:21,029
Thank you, Manager. Where is the report
located on the annual water quality

1646
01:33:21,029 --> 01:33:21,549
located on the annual water quality
report?

1647
01:33:21,789 --> 01:33:25,551
Yeah, so you can get to it either on the
water department page, okay,

1648
01:33:25,551 --> 01:33:29,313
or if under the Citizen Action Center, if
you Click public documents,

1649
01:33:29,313 --> 01:33:31,603
all of the water reports are listed there.

1650
01:33:31,603 --> 01:33:32,293
Thank you.

1651
01:33:32,293 --> 01:33:32,854
Yep.

1652
01:33:32,854 --> 01:33:37,058
I was going to mention, Mayor— Manager, we
are,

1653
01:33:37,058 --> 01:33:41,710
we are part of the National Rural Water
Association.

1654
01:33:41,710 --> 01:33:43,588
We're not rural, but—

1655
01:33:43,588 --> 01:33:46,829
It's kind of funny, but yes, it's based on
population.

1656
01:33:46,829 --> 01:33:50,311
I worked with them for many years, great
organization,

1657
01:33:50,311 --> 01:33:53,793
and their members are smaller water
systems like ours.

1658
01:33:53,793 --> 01:33:57,920
So much of our legal work, legal activity
has gone through that.

1659
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,716
Yes, correct.

1660
01:33:59,716 --> 01:34:01,220
And they, as I mentioned,

1661
01:34:01,220 --> 01:34:05,492
they're well respected for what they do
both legislatively and legally.

1662
01:34:05,492 --> 01:34:06,430
Thank you.

1663
01:34:06,738 --> 01:34:08,371
Yep.

1664
01:34:09,147 --> 01:34:12,475
Okay, just an update on the food scrap
program.

1665
01:34:12,475 --> 01:34:18,069
I reached out to our coordinator and she
let me know that we currently have 229

1666
01:34:18,069 --> 01:34:20,335
families that are participating.

1667
01:34:20,335 --> 01:34:25,362
So we did see a slight uptick since we
released our PSA on the program,

1668
01:34:25,362 --> 01:34:29,611
but there is still room for 70 more
families to participate.

1669
01:34:29,611 --> 01:34:33,151
So if there's anyone interested, you know,
we can—

1670
01:34:33,151 --> 01:34:38,674
you can either contact my office or just
go on the village website and get the

1671
01:34:38,674 --> 01:34:42,002
contact information for the food scrap
program,

1672
01:34:42,002 --> 01:34:47,455
and we'll be more than happy to put you in
touch with, with the right people.

1673
01:34:47,455 --> 01:34:53,048
Uh, in terms of leaf blower violations, we
have issued a total of 16 this year.

1674
01:34:53,048 --> 01:34:58,005
So there's been 3 additional violations
issued since the last meeting.

1675
01:34:58,005 --> 01:35:02,984
Uh, and are those to landscapers as well?

1676
01:35:02,984 --> 01:35:04,703
Uh, I mean, the enforcement—

1677
01:35:04,703 --> 01:35:09,738
the enforcement officer has the discretion
as to whether or not to issue it to the

1678
01:35:09,738 --> 01:35:11,642
homeowner or to the landscaper.

1679
01:35:11,642 --> 01:35:16,247
Uh, generally, our practice has been that
You know, the homeowner has been—

1680
01:35:16,247 --> 01:35:20,238
I should say the property owner has been
receiving the violation.

1681
01:35:20,238 --> 01:35:22,706
Okay.

1682
01:35:22,706 --> 01:35:26,982
Yep. The Half Moon Bay Bridge project is
moving along.

1683
01:35:26,982 --> 01:35:31,970
I feel like I say that at almost every
meeting, but it is true.

1684
01:35:31,970 --> 01:35:36,642
Our final plans, specifications, and
estimate, or the PS&E,

1685
01:35:36,642 --> 01:35:42,580
has been submitted to New York State DOT,
and that was submitted on Monday.

1686
01:35:42,580 --> 01:35:45,431
They are going to be reviewing that.

1687
01:35:45,431 --> 01:35:51,924
We have received some additional funding
from New York State towards this project.

1688
01:35:51,924 --> 01:35:57,466
So the bond that the board approved in
June, which was for $1,250,000,

1689
01:35:57,466 --> 01:36:03,801
we most likely will not have to take out
because of this additional funding from

1690
01:36:03,801 --> 01:36:04,038
because of this additional funding from
the

1691
01:36:04,038 --> 01:36:09,027
state. So we're very happy about that. So
more to come on that.

1692
01:36:09,027 --> 01:36:15,678
The Farrington Road steps, the railing is
going to be installed over the next weeks,

1693
01:36:15,678 --> 01:36:18,133
or the railings on either side.

1694
01:36:18,133 --> 01:36:22,408
And then once that's done, they will be
ready to open.

1695
01:36:22,408 --> 01:36:25,417
So DPW thinks by the end of next week,

1696
01:36:25,417 --> 01:36:29,297
they'll be open just in time for school to
begin.

1697
01:36:29,297 --> 01:36:33,890
We are working on our new website, which
is very exciting.

1698
01:36:33,890 --> 01:36:37,769
We're hoping to launch that a week from
tomorrow.

1699
01:36:37,769 --> 01:36:42,441
So I had originally thought, or I was
under the impression,

1700
01:36:42,441 --> 01:36:47,509
that people were going to have to
resubscribe to get the emails,

1701
01:36:47,509 --> 01:36:53,606
but that's not the case. Everybody's email
addresses have been migrated over.

1702
01:36:53,606 --> 01:36:59,623
So I just wanted to clarify that because I
don't know if I've said that at a

1703
01:36:59,623 --> 01:37:04,770
previous meeting or not. But people will
not need to resubscribe.

1704
01:37:04,770 --> 01:37:07,621
You will continue to get our emails.

1705
01:37:07,621 --> 01:37:14,113
So Miguel in my office has been working
with all the different department heads to

1706
01:37:14,113 --> 01:37:20,606
make sure their information is up to date
and populate the calendar and everything

1707
01:37:20,606 --> 01:37:24,565
else that goes along with launching a new
website.

1708
01:37:24,565 --> 01:37:28,524
So hopefully we're ready to launch that
next week.

1709
01:37:28,524 --> 01:37:32,483
The governor has signed our red light
camera bill.

1710
01:37:32,483 --> 01:37:36,046
That bill was signed into law on August
14th.

1711
01:37:36,046 --> 01:37:42,064
I'm sure the mayor may have some more
comments on this later in the meeting,

1712
01:37:42,064 --> 01:37:48,240
but we'll probably have a work session
discussion on that at some point in the

1713
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,141
future. And then lastly,

1714
01:37:50,141 --> 01:37:55,921
we received our sales tax payment from the
county for the second quarter,

1715
01:37:55,921 --> 01:38:02,255
and we saw a 5.1% increase in our sales
tax payment from last year to this year.

1716
01:38:02,255 --> 01:38:04,947
So that was very much appreciated.

1717
01:38:04,947 --> 01:38:06,927
So that 5.1% turned into—

1718
01:38:06,927 --> 01:38:11,757
equals roughly about $40,000 more than
what we got last year.

1719
01:38:11,757 --> 01:38:16,270
So, and that is my report. Oh, I'm sorry,
what did I say?

1720
01:38:16,270 --> 01:38:22,050
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant the school speed
camera bill. Got signed into law.

1721
01:38:22,050 --> 01:38:27,751
The red light camera bill was signed into
law last year. So I apologize.

1722
01:38:27,751 --> 01:38:30,840
No, the governor signed our, our speed,

1723
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:35,432
our school speed zone camera bill into law
on August 14th.

1724
01:38:35,432 --> 01:38:36,247
Thank you.

1725
01:38:36,247 --> 01:38:38,154
Yeah, sorry. I apologize for that.

1726
01:38:38,154 --> 01:38:42,235
I just figured she liked it so much.

1727
01:38:42,613 --> 01:38:43,452
She signed it twice.

1728
01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:45,837
Yeah.

1729
01:38:45,837 --> 01:38:48,537
Oh, and while we're on that topic, I'll
just note,

1730
01:38:48,537 --> 01:38:51,562
and I meant to mention this in our earlier
work session,

1731
01:38:51,562 --> 01:38:54,478
although there is authorization for red
light cameras,

1732
01:38:54,478 --> 01:38:56,584
the village has Currently non-deployed.

1733
01:38:56,584 --> 01:39:00,742
And I agree, that should probably be a
work session now that the 2 have been—

1734
01:39:00,742 --> 01:39:04,631
2 authorizations for the automated traffic
enforcement have been signed.

1735
01:39:04,631 --> 01:39:06,683
We should have a work session on that.

1736
01:39:06,683 --> 01:39:11,287
And is the $40,000 additional dollars over

1737
01:39:11,287 --> 01:39:15,672
your budget? Like, how did we plan sales

1738
01:39:15,672 --> 01:39:16,111
tax?

1739
01:39:16,111 --> 01:39:19,827
No, we're significantly over. Well, sorry,
let me clarify.

1740
01:39:19,827 --> 01:39:24,952
Are you talking about the year that just
ended May 31st or the current year that

1741
01:39:24,952 --> 01:39:27,003
we're in? So most of that month,

1742
01:39:27,003 --> 01:39:32,128
2/3 of the money that just came in goes to
the old year because it covers April,

1743
01:39:32,128 --> 01:39:33,025
May, and June.

1744
01:39:33,025 --> 01:39:33,523
Got it.

1745
01:39:33,523 --> 01:39:37,998
So, um, but we were— we generally have
been, um,

1746
01:39:37,998 --> 01:39:43,685
somewhere around a quarter of a million or
slightly more, um,

1747
01:39:43,685 --> 01:39:45,643
Over our projections.

1748
01:39:45,643 --> 01:39:48,440
So like in last year's budget,

1749
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:53,661
we had $2,125,000 budgeted and we brought
in $2,399,000.

1750
01:39:53,661 --> 01:39:59,628
So we try to, you know, budget
conservatively so that, you know,

1751
01:39:59,628 --> 01:40:01,959
we end up with a surplus.

1752
01:40:01,959 --> 01:40:04,803
So, and that's what the county is seeing
as well for that.

1753
01:40:04,803 --> 01:40:08,628
You know, they just released new updated
numbers and they're seeing a positive

1754
01:40:08,628 --> 01:40:11,031
increase in county sales tax, which is
fantastic.

1755
01:40:13,102 --> 01:40:15,563
Yes. Where does the money go? Which fund?

1756
01:40:15,563 --> 01:40:16,802
Uh, the general fund.

1757
01:40:16,802 --> 01:40:17,140
Right.

1758
01:40:17,349 --> 01:40:17,526
Thank you.

1759
01:40:17,526 --> 01:40:19,766
All right, and with that,

1760
01:40:19,766 --> 01:40:22,723
we proceed to the consent agenda.

1761
01:40:22,723 --> 01:40:26,396
Do I have a motion on the consent agenda?

1762
01:40:26,396 --> 01:40:27,362
So moved.

1763
01:40:27,362 --> 01:40:28,168
Second.

1764
01:40:28,168 --> 01:40:31,989
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. Discussion?

1765
01:40:31,989 --> 01:40:34,977
Just a few words here and there, Mayor.

1766
01:40:34,977 --> 01:40:40,416
Just congratulating the police on the AAA
Gold Award. That's wonderful.

1767
01:40:40,416 --> 01:40:45,548
We've gotten that before, and it's
terrific that their good work is

1768
01:40:45,548 --> 01:40:46,391
terrific that their good work is
recognized.

1769
01:40:46,391 --> 01:40:52,289
Thanks to Hudson Valley Gateway Chamber
for once again sponsoring our October

1770
01:40:52,289 --> 01:40:54,434
Halloween scarecrow contest.

1771
01:40:54,434 --> 01:41:00,256
Thanks to the manager and all the
individual managers out there for the good

1772
01:41:00,256 --> 01:41:00,716
individual managers out there for the good
energy

1773
01:41:00,716 --> 01:41:06,538
consumption report. And and then the The,
uh, I was gonna say a word or two.

1774
01:41:06,538 --> 01:41:11,211
I think we've said it all about— I guess,
uh, thanks for the—

1775
01:41:11,211 --> 01:41:16,957
to the fire department for their
leadership in general, but particularly on

1776
01:41:16,957 --> 01:41:17,263
leadership in general, but particularly on
the,

1777
01:41:17,263 --> 01:41:20,480
on the Sparky, uh, uh, fire, fire costume.

1778
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:26,609
We actually, in Tacoma, it's incredible
how, um, how these costumes and are, are

1779
01:41:26,609 --> 01:41:26,839
how, um, how these costumes and are, are
so,

1780
01:41:26,839 --> 01:41:30,363
uh, are things that kids are so responsive
to.

1781
01:41:30,363 --> 01:41:35,035
We had, uh, in Tacoma, we had, uh, Froggy
the Recycling Toad,

1782
01:41:35,035 --> 01:41:40,628
and it became so successful they wanted
federal funding for a second one.

1783
01:41:40,628 --> 01:41:43,615
So, you know, that was pretty terrific.

1784
01:41:43,615 --> 01:41:48,365
And finally, just very glad that we're
making progress on the—

1785
01:41:48,365 --> 01:41:53,651
with DOT on the rapid reflecting flashing
beacon for Maple and Wells,

1786
01:41:53,651 --> 01:41:58,630
and hopefully we can get that up and
running as soon as possible.

1787
01:41:58,630 --> 01:42:00,853
Second, I apologize.

1788
01:42:03,853 --> 01:42:04,487
Further discussion?

1789
01:42:04,487 --> 01:42:09,033
Um, I think this is just a process
question.

1790
01:42:09,033 --> 01:42:13,269
I would like to pull out the MTA MNR, um,

1791
01:42:13,269 --> 01:42:18,331
referral to the Waterfront Advisory
Committee for

1792
01:42:18,331 --> 01:42:20,707
discussion. So is that—

1793
01:42:20,707 --> 01:42:23,295
You don't need to, you don't need to pull
it out. You can—

1794
01:42:23,295 --> 01:42:27,328
Because it's combined in resolution with a
lot of other things.

1795
01:42:27,652 --> 01:42:30,768
Yeah, but you can have the discussion on
it right now unless you,

1796
01:42:30,768 --> 01:42:34,364
unless you specifically want to vote on
that separately than the rest. But—

1797
01:42:34,364 --> 01:42:37,173
Yes, I would like to vote on it
separately.

1798
01:42:37,173 --> 01:42:41,963
Oh, the consent agenda requires unanimous
consent, so we will remove it.

1799
01:42:41,963 --> 01:42:43,227
Further discussion?

1800
01:42:43,227 --> 01:42:49,484
Um, I just want to call out that the, um,
you know, part of the consent agenda,

1801
01:42:49,484 --> 01:42:54,316
which is amazing news, is the, um,
flashing beacons that, um,

1802
01:42:54,316 --> 01:42:59,147
will hopefully be installed installed
before the school year,

1803
01:42:59,147 --> 01:43:04,691
soon after the school year starts on Maple
Street, which is fantastic.

1804
01:43:04,691 --> 01:43:11,107
I also, just from a process perspective,
for folks in the audience that are here,

1805
01:43:11,107 --> 01:43:16,334
we are scheduling a public hearing next
week for our Local Law 10,

1806
01:43:16,334 --> 01:43:20,136
which includes the fowl and pigeon
conversation.

1807
01:43:20,136 --> 01:43:25,047
So the public will come next week and make
statements on that.

1808
01:43:25,047 --> 01:43:29,957
And then we'll decide whether or not we'll
vote at that point,

1809
01:43:29,957 --> 01:43:33,838
or we will table that conversation, or,
you know,

1810
01:43:33,838 --> 01:43:38,036
make some changes next week based on
public feedback.

1811
01:43:40,921 --> 01:43:42,455
Is that fair? I think so.

1812
01:43:42,455 --> 01:43:47,738
Do you think that it makes sense to
schedule a public hearing the last week of

1813
01:43:47,738 --> 01:43:52,005
August, or do you think it makes sense to
move it to September?

1814
01:43:52,005 --> 01:43:54,917
When it— this is obviously a popular
topic,

1815
01:43:54,917 --> 01:44:00,471
and I want to make sure that everyone who
wants to speak on this topic is able to.

1816
01:44:00,471 --> 01:44:02,638
Um, and the last week of August—

1817
01:44:02,638 --> 01:44:04,032
Well, it's September 2nd.

1818
01:44:04,032 --> 01:44:05,876
Oh, I thought—

1819
01:44:05,876 --> 01:44:07,046
I'm sorry, I thought—

1820
01:44:07,046 --> 01:44:10,727
No, well, I mean, it's— I, I did think
about— I had the same concerns,

1821
01:44:10,727 --> 01:44:14,934
but I figured school has already begun at
that point, so people are going to be—

1822
01:44:14,934 --> 01:44:19,045
I just want to be— I just know that it's
very— it's a very, um, popular topic,

1823
01:44:19,045 --> 01:44:22,154
and I just want to make sure that we are
not scheduling it—

1824
01:44:22,154 --> 01:44:26,106
we are scheduling it at a time when
everybody who wants to have their voice

1825
01:44:26,106 --> 01:44:26,528
everybody who wants to have their voice
heard is

1826
01:44:26,528 --> 01:44:27,687
able to have it heard.

1827
01:44:27,687 --> 01:44:31,429
I don't know if, you know, Labor Day is
late, school is starting early,

1828
01:44:31,429 --> 01:44:32,852
Labor Day is starting late.

1829
01:44:32,852 --> 01:44:36,488
I just wanted to— I just want to think
about when we've scheduled it.

1830
01:44:36,488 --> 01:44:40,952
There's no requirement that you close the
public hearing, right?

1831
01:44:40,952 --> 01:44:46,114
You can, you can keep it open to the next
meeting if you feel like there's

1832
01:44:46,114 --> 01:44:48,973
additional comments you may want to hear.

1833
01:44:48,973 --> 01:44:54,484
So, okay, I just want to let everybody
know it seems like our Zoom computer has

1834
01:44:54,484 --> 01:44:54,693
know it seems like our Zoom computer has
not

1835
01:44:54,693 --> 01:44:57,413
been great. So we've lost our attorney.

1836
01:44:57,702 --> 01:44:58,778
Oh, that's a problem.

1837
01:44:58,987 --> 01:45:02,457
Yeah, so we're still we're working on it,
but I just want to.

1838
01:45:02,569 --> 01:45:05,798
Does that mean that can the public
watching it on?

1839
01:45:06,216 --> 01:45:08,086
Yeah, no, it doesn't affect anything on
that.

1840
01:45:08,086 --> 01:45:11,369
It's just it's just that we can't display
the agenda or and we don't have Zoom.

1841
01:45:11,369 --> 01:45:12,159
Zoom at the moment.

1842
01:45:12,336 --> 01:45:12,465
Okay.

1843
01:45:12,513 --> 01:45:14,056
So, but we're trying to bring it back.

1844
01:45:14,104 --> 01:45:14,634
Stream's good.

1845
01:45:15,229 --> 01:45:15,486
Yeah.

1846
01:45:16,981 --> 01:45:22,676
Manager, just a question because I'm even
though I'm nine months in, I still am new.

1847
01:45:22,807 --> 01:45:23,199
I feel new.

1848
01:45:25,068 --> 01:45:30,356
Item number six: consider acknowledging
receipt of local law number

1849
01:45:30,356 --> 01:45:34,066
fourteen. So what is being asked of us on
that?

1850
01:45:34,066 --> 01:45:39,038
Like when you consider acknowledging
receipt. I received a bit.

1851
01:45:39,038 --> 01:45:41,327
It doesn't mean that— are we—

1852
01:45:41,327 --> 01:45:44,990
All you're doing is saying, I've received
this.

1853
01:45:44,990 --> 01:45:45,491
That's right.

1854
01:45:45,491 --> 01:45:45,797
Yes.

1855
01:45:45,797 --> 01:45:46,217
All right.

1856
01:45:46,217 --> 01:45:47,252
Because you have to—

1857
01:45:47,252 --> 01:45:47,932
Working on it.

1858
01:45:47,932 --> 01:45:51,058
No, you have to receive it and then refer
it.

1859
01:45:51,058 --> 01:45:51,366
Right.

1860
01:45:51,366 --> 01:45:52,176
Right? So that's—

1861
01:45:52,176 --> 01:45:54,444
I just wanted to make sure that's all it
is.

1862
01:45:54,444 --> 01:45:58,020
You can't give it to someone else unless
you have it first.

1863
01:45:58,020 --> 01:45:58,265
All right.

1864
01:45:58,314 --> 01:46:03,695
Thank you. All right. Very good.

1865
01:46:03,986 --> 01:46:04,406
Thank you.

1866
01:46:04,730 --> 01:46:05,425
Further discussion?

1867
01:46:05,425 --> 01:46:08,937
Yeah, could I just go back to the item
that Trustee Nicholson pulled out?

1868
01:46:08,937 --> 01:46:12,016
Do we have any— do we have any information
on— I know there was—

1869
01:46:12,016 --> 01:46:15,576
we weren't sure what the timing was going
to be with the flashing beacons.

1870
01:46:15,576 --> 01:46:18,847
We were waiting for something. Can you
just talk a little bit about—

1871
01:46:18,847 --> 01:46:22,004
Yeah, so Maple Street is a state road,
right?

1872
01:46:22,004 --> 01:46:27,476
And so even though we've installed 2
flashing beacons on Maple Street already,

1873
01:46:27,476 --> 01:46:27,687
flashing beacons on Maple Street already,
Uh,

1874
01:46:27,687 --> 01:46:32,948
New York State DOT asked for some
additional information this time compared

1875
01:46:32,948 --> 01:46:33,369
additional information this time compared
to the

1876
01:46:33,369 --> 01:46:38,140
other 2, so it took us a little bit of
time to get that information.

1877
01:46:38,140 --> 01:46:40,876
Uh, we have since submitted everything.

1878
01:46:40,876 --> 01:46:46,559
I've spoken with the, uh, uh, sorry, I'm
blanking on what her title is right now,

1879
01:46:46,559 --> 01:46:51,891
but one of the engineers in the, uh,
Katona office, the Northern Westchester

1880
01:46:51,891 --> 01:46:52,382
Katona office, the Northern Westchester
office,

1881
01:46:52,382 --> 01:46:56,030
um, who said that she was ready to issue
the permit.

1882
01:46:56,030 --> 01:47:00,941
But we can't start work in the state
right-of-way unless we have DOT's

1883
01:47:00,941 --> 01:47:01,572
right-of-way unless we have DOT's
approval,

1884
01:47:01,572 --> 01:47:05,782
right? So until we get that permit, we
can't start the work.

1885
01:47:05,782 --> 01:47:11,324
So, um, I'm hoping that at the very least
we will have some of the work started

1886
01:47:11,324 --> 01:47:14,481
before school begins, if not fully
installed,

1887
01:47:14,481 --> 01:47:18,620
so that people will at least see that it's
making progress.

1888
01:47:18,620 --> 01:47:22,268
Um, but we're certainly going to do our
best to, uh,

1889
01:47:22,268 --> 01:47:24,864
To have it done before September 1st.

1890
01:47:24,864 --> 01:47:28,529
So, manager, the, um, the—

1891
01:47:28,529 --> 01:47:32,194
did I see on here the, um,

1892
01:47:32,194 --> 01:47:37,974
the sidewalks regarding the snow removal?

1893
01:47:37,974 --> 01:47:41,051
Uh, we're scheduling a public hearing for
that.

1894
01:47:41,051 --> 01:47:43,539
That's, uh, Local Law Intro Number 12.

1895
01:47:43,539 --> 01:47:45,950
Also for September 2nd.

1896
01:47:45,950 --> 01:47:46,545
Same day. Yeah.

1897
01:47:46,545 --> 01:47:53,460
So is that When we can discuss potentially
adding the 2 homes that—

1898
01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:58,569
Yes, we would discuss that as part of the—
I mean, although, I mean, the laws,

1899
01:47:58,569 --> 01:48:03,023
if you want to discuss, we could discuss
it now as well, because if,

1900
01:48:03,023 --> 01:48:05,774
if a majority of the board wants to do it,

1901
01:48:05,774 --> 01:48:10,752
we might as well add it to the law now so
we don't have to rehold the public

1902
01:48:10,752 --> 01:48:15,009
hearing. So, I mean, you know, like I put,
like I put in my memo,

1903
01:48:15,009 --> 01:48:19,397
and I apologize for not being able to Put
it up on the screen here.

1904
01:48:19,397 --> 01:48:23,982
You know, it was—it's my—it's—it's my
understanding of the law, right?

1905
01:48:23,982 --> 01:48:29,353
That we generally only exempt sidewalks
that have geographical limitations, right?

1906
01:48:29,353 --> 01:48:32,562
So like if you live—if you live on top of
a hill,

1907
01:48:32,562 --> 01:48:36,885
but your property goes all the way down to
the bottom of the hill,

1908
01:48:36,885 --> 01:48:40,160
and you have a sidewalk at the bottom of
the hill.

1909
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:45,531
It would be unreasonable, you know, for
you to get down to the bottom of the hill.

1910
01:48:45,531 --> 01:48:49,723
And so, you know, you're exempt from that,
from that regulation.

1911
01:48:49,723 --> 01:48:50,285
Mm-hmm.

1912
01:48:50,285 --> 01:48:56,263
Um, you know, and so I put together in
that memo showing the areas that, um,

1913
01:48:56,263 --> 01:49:01,612
specifically on Farrington, right,
there's, um, the, the Bank Street

1914
01:49:01,612 --> 01:49:02,792
there's, um, the, the Bank Street
affordable, uh,

1915
01:49:02,792 --> 01:49:08,928
condominiums, right? They don't have any
access to the sidewalk on Farrington.

1916
01:49:08,928 --> 01:49:12,074
And then, um, the 4 homes on Palmer, um,

1917
01:49:12,074 --> 01:49:17,423
don't have any access from their
properties on Palmer to Farrington.

1918
01:49:17,423 --> 01:49:24,031
Um, I did not include the last 2 homes on
Palmer because they do have access down to

1919
01:49:24,031 --> 01:49:30,402
Farrington. They have staircases on their
property that connect right down to the

1920
01:49:30,402 --> 01:49:31,110
sidewalk.

1921
01:49:31,110 --> 01:49:31,608
Right.

1922
01:49:31,608 --> 01:49:35,291
So, um, in my interpretation That's not a
limitation.

1923
01:49:35,291 --> 01:49:39,391
Obviously, that's a policy decision that's
up to the board.

1924
01:49:39,391 --> 01:49:42,657
If you want to determine that, you can do
that.

1925
01:49:42,657 --> 01:49:47,730
I don't know if there are other
circumstances in the village where if you

1926
01:49:47,730 --> 01:49:48,078
circumstances in the village where if you
do do

1927
01:49:48,078 --> 01:49:51,205
that, you know, you may get further
requests.

1928
01:49:51,205 --> 01:49:57,336
Yeah, I don't know if my other colleagues
are familiar enough with this to weigh in.

1929
01:49:57,336 --> 01:50:01,350
Um, I know how I feel about this. No. And
I will share.

1930
01:50:01,350 --> 01:50:04,124
I think, uh, that adding— there are 2,

1931
01:50:04,124 --> 01:50:09,087
2 households that are now being kind of
excluded that are on Palmer,

1932
01:50:09,087 --> 01:50:12,664
that because they have stairs down to
Farrington,

1933
01:50:12,664 --> 01:50:15,437
they're not included in the exemption.

1934
01:50:15,437 --> 01:50:19,670
I think we should just include all of
Palmer, uh, and not—

1935
01:50:19,670 --> 01:50:22,371
and just not disclude these 2 houses.

1936
01:50:22,371 --> 01:50:23,380
I think that's reasonable.

1937
01:50:23,380 --> 01:50:27,596
And those are the ones that we received
correspondence regarding, correct?

1938
01:50:27,596 --> 01:50:30,240
Well, we've only heard— I, I don't know if
the board received—

1939
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,117
I've heard from one homeowner. You're
right.

1940
01:50:32,229 --> 01:50:32,357
Yeah.

1941
01:50:33,892 --> 01:50:36,994
Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know if you're
going to do that.

1942
01:50:36,994 --> 01:50:40,096
I don't know if you want to also include—
I mean, there's,

1943
01:50:40,096 --> 01:50:42,610
there's other homes there on Farrington,
right?

1944
01:50:42,610 --> 01:50:46,782
The home on— there's 2 homes that have
Farrington addresses that have the same

1945
01:50:46,782 --> 01:50:49,082
situation, right? That have sidewalks on
2—

1946
01:50:49,082 --> 01:50:50,403
On Palmer or on—

1947
01:50:50,596 --> 01:50:51,691
which way do they go?

1948
01:50:51,691 --> 01:50:52,095
Both.

1949
01:50:52,095 --> 01:50:53,227
They go both ways.

1950
01:50:53,227 --> 01:50:59,369
Right. So there's, um, it's 24 and 26
Palmer.

1951
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:00,034
Right.

1952
01:51:00,034 --> 01:51:04,632
And then 27, and I think that might be 31.
I can't really read that.

1953
01:51:04,632 --> 01:51:07,405
I think it might be 27 and 31 Farrington.

1954
01:51:07,405 --> 01:51:13,627
And the only access that they have is a
staircase up to Palmer.

1955
01:51:13,627 --> 01:51:20,192
Well, 27— so 27 Farrington has a— has—
they front Farrington, obviously,

1956
01:51:20,192 --> 01:51:26,391
and then they have a— they have a walkway
that leads them up to, um,

1957
01:51:26,391 --> 01:51:28,762
To the sidewalk on Palmer.

1958
01:51:28,762 --> 01:51:31,999
So there are

1959
01:51:31,999 --> 01:51:35,506
potentially 4

1960
01:51:35,506 --> 01:51:39,553
addresses then.

1961
01:51:39,553 --> 01:51:41,497
Yeah, I mean, I, I just,

1962
01:51:41,497 --> 01:51:48,058
I just caution again that the purpose of
looking at this whole section and making

1963
01:51:48,058 --> 01:51:54,295
the changes that we did is that DPW was
overburdened this past winter. Right.

1964
01:51:54,295 --> 01:51:57,211
And so my only concern— it's not my—

1965
01:51:57,211 --> 01:52:03,367
I don't necessarily have a specific
concern about adding 2 more houses here.

1966
01:52:03,367 --> 01:52:07,984
My concern is that if we change our
criteria for what we—

1967
01:52:07,984 --> 01:52:10,657
what we use to add the sidewalks,

1968
01:52:10,657 --> 01:52:17,218
do we then start getting requests from
other areas in the village that, you know,

1969
01:52:17,218 --> 01:52:20,782
for every, every house that has 2
sidewalks?

1970
01:52:20,782 --> 01:52:20,802
Mm-hmm.

1971
01:52:22,853 --> 01:52:26,039
Yeah, because you— I mean, you could have
corner lots.

1972
01:52:26,039 --> 01:52:28,399
There's a lot of— yeah, there are a lot.

1973
01:52:28,399 --> 01:52:30,581
Well, that's my point is, yeah, yeah,

1974
01:52:30,581 --> 01:52:34,180
I understand the idea of adding these in
because it's only 2,

1975
01:52:34,180 --> 01:52:35,714
but it's also then what's—

1976
01:52:35,714 --> 01:52:38,330
Yeah, no, very steep set of stairs down,
right?

1977
01:52:38,330 --> 01:52:40,724
I mean, I'm pretty familiar with that
area.

1978
01:52:40,772 --> 01:52:42,728
So, so if we were to do that,

1979
01:52:42,728 --> 01:52:48,124
would that mean that none of the sidewalks
on either side of Farrington Would be

1980
01:52:48,124 --> 01:52:53,385
able— were, were going to be shoveled by
any— so I'm looking at 24 Farrington.

1981
01:52:53,385 --> 01:52:55,813
So it looks like if that's the case,

1982
01:52:55,813 --> 01:52:59,455
then there are sidewalks on both sides of
that street,

1983
01:52:59,455 --> 01:53:02,423
neither of which would end up being
cleared.

1984
01:53:02,423 --> 01:53:03,946
Well, the DPW would clear them.

1985
01:53:03,946 --> 01:53:10,026
Yeah, so the law, the law exempts— the law
exempts the owner from having to do it,

1986
01:53:10,026 --> 01:53:16,255
so we end up doing it. The law doesn't say
we have to do it, but we end up doing it.

1987
01:53:17,502 --> 01:53:19,915
Right, so the residents are just doing the
ones that are—

1988
01:53:19,915 --> 01:53:25,141
But I do feel like this is a little bit of
a special situation where it's not like

1989
01:53:25,141 --> 01:53:27,372
there are houses on the other side.

1990
01:53:27,372 --> 01:53:32,215
Like, if there are houses on the— I'm
looking at it sort of driving north, I

1991
01:53:32,215 --> 01:53:32,598
looking at it sort of driving north, I
guess.

1992
01:53:32,598 --> 01:53:37,696
It's a pretty special situation where both
of the sidewalks on both sides— well,

1993
01:53:37,696 --> 01:53:40,182
actually, I don't know if it is or not.

1994
01:53:40,182 --> 01:53:45,535
But this is a case where both sides of the
street are impacted by the decision we're

1995
01:53:45,535 --> 01:53:48,403
going to make, which would mean that then
DP—

1996
01:53:48,403 --> 01:53:52,355
this would be impassable on the sidewalks
if DPW didn't do it.

1997
01:53:52,355 --> 01:53:56,561
It's not like you can cross the street and
walk on the other side.

1998
01:53:56,561 --> 01:54:01,967
The one, the one sidewalk that abuts, uh,
the Bank Street condos, um, we,

1999
01:54:01,967 --> 01:54:04,041
we have been doing that one.

2000
01:54:04,041 --> 01:54:09,077
It just for whatever reason has not been
included in the list. Okay.

2001
01:54:09,077 --> 01:54:12,854
So, um, so we're, we're making that
correction now.

2002
01:54:12,854 --> 01:54:16,927
I'm not sure who has been doing those
Palmer sidewalks.

2003
01:54:16,927 --> 01:54:21,741
Maybe it's the— maybe it's the homeowners
who have been doing it.

2004
01:54:21,741 --> 01:54:27,666
They've, you know, maybe they've had to
drive all the way around and, and do it.

2005
01:54:27,666 --> 01:54:29,443
So, or maybe one of the—

2006
01:54:29,443 --> 01:54:32,287
I feel like they've been on the fine list
too.

2007
01:54:32,287 --> 01:54:33,682
They could have. Yeah.

2008
01:54:33,682 --> 01:54:35,013
I mean, you know, we,

2009
01:54:35,013 --> 01:54:39,261
we do our best to try to check different
areas in different storms.

2010
01:54:39,261 --> 01:54:42,604
I think a couple years ago they were on
Yeah.

2011
01:54:42,604 --> 01:54:44,164
So, um, I mean, yeah,

2012
01:54:44,164 --> 01:54:49,215
my perspective is to add them as well as
the 2 houses on Farrington.

2013
01:54:49,215 --> 01:54:54,317
You know, and I think it's a harder task
in the future, you know, to,

2014
01:54:54,317 --> 01:54:59,419
to evaluate new requests, but I don't
think that should stop us from,

2015
01:54:59,419 --> 01:55:01,785
from going forward with these 2.

2016
01:55:01,785 --> 01:55:07,190
Well, if there are future requests, then I
think we will have to reevaluate,

2017
01:55:07,190 --> 01:55:09,039
but we can add it for now.

2018
01:55:10,047 --> 01:55:11,326
Yeah, I'm not against doing it.

2019
01:55:11,326 --> 01:55:14,628
I just, I want, I want to make sure that
the sidewalks are clear so the kids can

2020
01:55:14,628 --> 01:55:17,393
walk to school because these kids would do
not get a bus to school.

2021
01:55:17,393 --> 01:55:19,415
That's what I'm thinking as I'm
considering this.

2022
01:55:19,415 --> 01:55:23,325
So just, just to be clear, are we just
adding to the 2,

2023
01:55:23,325 --> 01:55:26,310
the 2 houses on Palmer, those 2 sidewalks,

2024
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:28,798
and not adding the 2 on Farrington?

2025
01:55:28,798 --> 01:55:34,364
I mean, I, I think that we should add them
all. Can we get— I don't think—

2026
01:55:34,364 --> 01:55:41,905
all right, let's get the— now that we got
our computer back, let's get the memo.

2027
01:55:41,905 --> 01:55:49,164
Up, Rachel, sorry. Go to Local Law Number
12. Scroll down to the second page.

2028
01:55:49,164 --> 01:55:51,144
Okay, so there we go.

2029
01:55:51,144 --> 01:55:58,025
So can you make that— Yeah, can you—
sorry, can you zoom in a little bit?

2030
01:55:58,025 --> 01:56:00,665
So, I mean, those two, it's,

2031
01:56:00,665 --> 01:56:06,792
it's a little bit strange because the two
homes on Palmer, right,

2032
01:56:06,792 --> 01:56:12,542
their backyards are Farrington, but then
the other two homes,

2033
01:56:12,542 --> 01:56:19,801
their front yards are Farrington. So maybe
we just stop at the two on Palmer.

2034
01:56:19,801 --> 01:56:22,127
Yeah.

2035
01:56:22,127 --> 01:56:27,146
So, I mean, it seems like you should have
to shovel the sidewalk in front of your

2036
01:56:27,146 --> 01:56:31,792
house. Like when you need to like walk
downstairs and go to another street,

2037
01:56:31,792 --> 01:56:34,519
like that seems like a lot of effort,
right?

2038
01:56:34,519 --> 01:56:38,732
I mean, if we're already excluding those
houses, I mean, this would—

2039
01:56:38,732 --> 01:56:42,883
it's like they have to drive all the way
around the block to do it.

2040
01:56:42,883 --> 01:56:45,251
No, that's, that's what I mean.

2041
01:56:45,251 --> 01:56:48,458
When I was looking at this, I'm like, I'm,

2042
01:56:48,458 --> 01:56:54,492
I'm really shocked that these people on
Palmer have not complained in the past.

2043
01:56:54,492 --> 01:56:58,311
So unless it's just not being done,
period, right?

2044
01:56:58,311 --> 01:57:01,518
Which, I mean, right, it's, it's possible.

2045
01:57:01,518 --> 01:57:06,483
So, um, okay, so we will— did you get the
Zoom up? Sorry, Rachel.

2046
01:57:06,483 --> 01:57:11,905
Um, can we just take a minute break here
so I can get the Zoom back up?

2047
01:57:11,905 --> 01:57:18,015
Because I would like— I would like Lori
Lee to pop since we're changing the law.

2048
01:57:18,015 --> 01:57:22,292
I just would like to get her opinion on
this. Thank you.

2049
01:57:22,292 --> 01:57:22,389
Okay.

2050
01:57:22,834 --> 01:57:23,335
Thank you.

2051
01:57:23,335 --> 01:57:24,874
Yeah,

2052
01:57:24,874 --> 01:57:29,184
don't turn it.

2053
01:57:29,184 --> 01:57:48,878
That's fine.

2054
02:00:32,175 --> 02:00:34,907
Where is Lori?

2055
02:00:34,907 --> 02:00:38,127
Lori Lee,

2056
02:00:38,127 --> 02:00:42,779
are you back?

2057
02:00:42,779 --> 02:00:46,715
Laurie Lee,

2058
02:00:46,715 --> 02:00:56,400
are you back?

2059
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:04,728
Just probably like, meeting's over.

2060
02:01:07,728 --> 02:01:08,426
I am here.

2061
02:01:08,783 --> 02:01:12,539
Oh, good. Okay. Okay, so, uh,

2062
02:01:12,539 --> 02:01:17,332
sorry to, uh, sorry for the technical

2063
02:01:17,332 --> 02:01:18,239
issues.

2064
02:01:18,239 --> 02:01:21,156
Um, I waited it out.

2065
02:01:21,237 --> 02:01:23,545
I filled up my water bottle, so I'm good.

2066
02:01:23,545 --> 02:01:26,386
Very good. Um, we're discussing—

2067
02:01:26,386 --> 02:01:32,068
we had a little conversation about Local
Law Introductory Number

2068
02:01:32,068 --> 02:01:36,151
12, um, which has to do with changing the,
uh,

2069
02:01:36,151 --> 02:01:40,679
sidewalk exemptions with regards to snow
shoveling.

2070
02:01:41,658 --> 02:01:44,048
Yes, I remember we talked about this at
the work session.

2071
02:01:44,048 --> 02:01:50,040
Yes, so the village board, um, did we
just— sorry, did we decide to just do the

2072
02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:50,192
just— sorry, did we decide to just do the
2?

2073
02:01:50,192 --> 02:01:54,572
I think we're still discussing whether or
not to do the 2.

2074
02:01:54,572 --> 02:01:56,353
Okay, so they want—

2075
02:01:56,353 --> 02:01:57,075
We just did the 2.

2076
02:01:57,075 --> 02:02:04,096
Just do the 2, is that what we said? Is
that right? So everybody's okay with that?

2077
02:02:04,096 --> 02:02:05,980
All right, so, um, we,

2078
02:02:05,980 --> 02:02:12,316
we need to change the length of the
exemption area in the law to include 2

2079
02:02:12,316 --> 02:02:14,200
additional properties.

2080
02:02:14,200 --> 02:02:16,683
So can we still schedule the,

2081
02:02:16,683 --> 02:02:22,763
the public hearing for now with the
understanding that we'll update the

2082
02:02:22,763 --> 02:02:23,362
understanding that we'll update the
wording

2083
02:02:23,362 --> 02:02:26,787
before the— before the law is published?

2084
02:02:26,787 --> 02:02:29,051
Absolutely, yes.

2085
02:02:29,051 --> 02:02:30,705
All right, I just want—

2086
02:02:30,705 --> 02:02:36,026
I just wanted to make sure we were doing
everything By the book. So, yeah.

2087
02:02:36,026 --> 02:02:40,628
Okay, so we will. So, so it's just, it's
just a length. Correct.

2088
02:02:40,628 --> 02:02:42,498
I need to, I need to have,

2089
02:02:42,498 --> 02:02:48,034
I need to have Superintendent Balbi just
measure it out and update, you know,

2090
02:02:48,034 --> 02:02:52,996
whatever it is, you know, 250 feet to 350
feet, whatever it might be.

2091
02:02:52,996 --> 02:02:53,544
Great.

2092
02:02:53,882 --> 02:02:55,425
So, all right, thanks.

2093
02:02:55,425 --> 02:02:58,300
Well, if I was there, you know, I'd have,

2094
02:02:58,300 --> 02:03:04,190
I'd have out my Tape measure and I go out
there right now for you. Okay, no problem.

2095
02:03:04,190 --> 02:03:05,802
Yeah, yeah, we can, um,

2096
02:03:05,802 --> 02:03:11,131
you can make that change once you have
that number and just get it uploaded.

2097
02:03:11,131 --> 02:03:12,043
That's great.

2098
02:03:12,043 --> 02:03:16,959
Perfect. Thank you. Okay.

2099
02:03:19,738 --> 02:03:23,445
All right, so I guess, uh, do we have a
motion to approve the, uh,

2100
02:03:23,445 --> 02:03:24,905
consent agenda as amended?

2101
02:03:26,615 --> 02:03:27,148
So moved.

2102
02:03:27,148 --> 02:03:29,685
Second.

2103
02:03:29,685 --> 02:03:34,506
Yes. Motion by Trustee Simon, second by
Trustee Nicholson. All in favor? Aye.

2104
02:03:34,506 --> 02:03:38,513
Very good. All right. And then we had the
item that was removed.

2105
02:03:38,513 --> 02:03:40,204
Do we want to discuss that?

2106
02:03:40,204 --> 02:03:42,293
Yeah, let's put that— let's put that one
first, I guess.

2107
02:03:42,293 --> 02:03:49,855
Um, I missed that. Which one? The MNR
referral to the WAC.

2108
02:03:51,053 --> 02:03:52,912
Got it. Thank you.

2109
02:03:52,912 --> 02:03:57,245
You want me to start?

2110
02:03:57,245 --> 02:04:00,897
No, I'm just— I'm looking for the
resolution. Sorry. Okay. Yep.

2111
02:04:00,897 --> 02:04:05,302
Oh, well, I guess that would be the
correspondence resolution because that's

2112
02:04:05,302 --> 02:04:05,592
correspondence resolution because that's
where

2113
02:04:05,592 --> 02:04:10,229
it's under. All right. So, um, yeah, so
it's the first resolution there, Rachel.

2114
02:04:10,229 --> 02:04:12,721
Okay. So, uh, now therefore be it
resolved,

2115
02:04:12,721 --> 02:04:16,778
the Village Board of Trustees hereby
undertakes the following actions.

2116
02:04:16,778 --> 02:04:21,068
1, approving the request to hold Hudson
Valley Gateway Chamber of Commerce

2117
02:04:21,068 --> 02:04:21,589
Valley Gateway Chamber of Commerce
Scarecrow

2118
02:04:21,589 --> 02:04:23,038
Contest during fall 2026.

2119
02:04:23,038 --> 02:04:27,443
2, refer the consistency review request
from MTA Metro-North Railroad to the

2120
02:04:27,443 --> 02:04:30,863
Waterfront Advisory Committee for their
review and comment.

2121
02:04:30,863 --> 02:04:34,399
3, filing for the record the 2025 Energy
Benchmarking Report,

2122
02:04:34,399 --> 02:04:38,862
the letter from Westchester County
Department of Senior Programs and Services

2123
02:04:38,862 --> 02:04:39,036
Department of Senior Programs and Services
for

2124
02:04:39,036 --> 02:04:40,891
the Senior Citizen Hall of Fame,

2125
02:04:40,891 --> 02:04:45,064
and the letter from AAA Northeast
announcing the 2026 Gold Award for the

2126
02:04:45,064 --> 02:04:45,644
announcing the 2026 Gold Award for the
Village of

2127
02:04:45,644 --> 02:04:49,585
Croton-on-Hudson. in the AAA Community
Traffic Safety Award Program.

2128
02:04:49,585 --> 02:04:52,705
Do I have a motion?

2129
02:04:52,705 --> 02:04:53,866
So moved.

2130
02:04:53,866 --> 02:04:54,995
Second.

2131
02:04:54,995 --> 02:04:58,302
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. Discussion?

2132
02:04:58,302 --> 02:05:04,189
So I will— I want to thank you, Manager,
for meeting with me this week.

2133
02:05:04,189 --> 02:05:09,248
I know we discussed this M&R project, um,
and, you know, the,

2134
02:05:09,248 --> 02:05:14,969
the questions that I raised around it and
I left that meeting at the—

2135
02:05:14,969 --> 02:05:19,861
at that time feeling like, okay, we'll
refer it to the WAC.

2136
02:05:19,861 --> 02:05:26,495
But after thinking about it, I would like
to just have the discussion, you know,

2137
02:05:26,495 --> 02:05:30,724
with the board and get their, their
thoughts on it.

2138
02:05:30,724 --> 02:05:37,275
And also just give more visibility to this
project to the public, because it's—

2139
02:05:37,275 --> 02:05:43,908
if someone's just glancing at an agenda,
they're not going to really understand.

2140
02:05:43,908 --> 02:05:50,210
Okay. That this is probably one of the
most significant Metro North railroad

2141
02:05:50,210 --> 02:05:54,937
projects, I think, facing Croton on Hudson
in in a while.

2142
02:05:54,937 --> 02:06:00,658
What this is, it's it's related to coast
coastline resiliency, right?

2143
02:06:00,658 --> 02:06:06,463
And you know, in in efforts to improve the
resiliency of the railroad,

2144
02:06:06,463 --> 02:06:08,951
what they're looking to do is.

2145
02:06:08,951 --> 02:06:15,335
Proposed installation of new signal
equipment and fences at various locations

2146
02:06:15,335 --> 02:06:15,750
equipment and fences at various locations
along

2147
02:06:15,750 --> 02:06:21,886
the Hudson River all the way up to
Peekskill. This is the phase that we're

2148
02:06:21,886 --> 02:06:22,135
Peekskill. This is the phase that we're
in.

2149
02:06:22,135 --> 02:06:22,696
Poughkeepsie.

2150
02:06:22,696 --> 02:06:27,930
Poughkeepsie, sorry. Yeah, even further
than that. Yeah.

2151
02:06:27,930 --> 02:06:29,893
And I know, you know,

2152
02:06:29,893 --> 02:06:37,090
we've already given permanent easements
and temporary I guess, placements or—

2153
02:06:37,090 --> 02:06:39,148
Both permanent and temporary easements.

2154
02:06:39,148 --> 02:06:42,070
Easements years ago for, for this.

2155
02:06:42,070 --> 02:06:48,689
But I just wanted to explain that this
work will occur adjacent to the Croton

2156
02:06:48,689 --> 02:06:49,119
work will occur adjacent to the Croton
River

2157
02:06:49,119 --> 02:06:55,995
and the Havestraw Bay, significant— with
significant fish and wildlife habitats.

2158
02:06:55,995 --> 02:07:01,325
The work will occur within You know, the
active rail corridor.

2159
02:07:01,325 --> 02:07:08,115
There'll be in-water river work going on
at several locations for the placement

2160
02:07:08,115 --> 02:07:11,811
footings for platforms, lots of steel
work.

2161
02:07:11,811 --> 02:07:16,711
And when I reviewed this, you know, we're
asking the WAC,

2162
02:07:16,711 --> 02:07:22,813
the Water Advisory Commission, to, you
know, review it for consistency,

2163
02:07:22,813 --> 02:07:29,174
the coastal form. And I know that that
group and Deputy Mayor, your chair,

2164
02:07:29,174 --> 02:07:31,323
take their job seriously.

2165
02:07:31,323 --> 02:07:34,331
And I felt, because I'm on the WAC,

2166
02:07:34,331 --> 02:07:40,434
that there's no way that I could
personally answer any of these coastal

2167
02:07:40,434 --> 02:07:41,294
personally answer any of these coastal
assessment

2168
02:07:41,294 --> 02:07:47,311
determinations based on the information
that Metro North has provided.

2169
02:07:47,311 --> 02:07:51,265
I think that what they provided is
incomplete.

2170
02:07:51,265 --> 02:07:58,399
And I know that the engineering department
goes through painstaking efforts to make

2171
02:07:58,399 --> 02:08:04,330
sure applications are complete before they
pass them along, you know,

2172
02:08:04,330 --> 02:08:07,424
to planning boards and other boards.

2173
02:08:07,424 --> 02:08:14,387
And, you know, I do have concerns, you
know, around this, this project, you know.

2174
02:08:14,387 --> 02:08:18,255
It's— let me say, so we don't know, you
know,

2175
02:08:18,255 --> 02:08:22,467
what equipment is being placed in the
floodplain.

2176
02:08:22,467 --> 02:08:28,140
We don't know what the elevations are of
everything they're doing.

2177
02:08:28,140 --> 02:08:35,188
How do we answer how it will impact the
scenic vistas of the river when we have no

2178
02:08:35,188 --> 02:08:41,205
information about heights of anything? We
don't know what the fill is.

2179
02:08:41,205 --> 02:08:44,041
Will construction alter drainage?

2180
02:08:44,041 --> 02:08:50,574
The plans, the maps they provided— I'm
calling them maps, but they're dated—

2181
02:08:50,574 --> 02:08:54,184
many of them are dated draft November '22.

2182
02:08:54,184 --> 02:09:00,717
And the document is signed by a senior
planner at Dewberry on behalf of MNR.

2183
02:09:00,717 --> 02:09:07,421
So, you know, basically, you know, we
don't really know how large this project

2184
02:09:07,421 --> 02:09:07,679
don't really know how large this project
is,

2185
02:09:07,679 --> 02:09:13,868
what the height is, what the footprint,
the dimensions, the foundations.

2186
02:09:13,868 --> 02:09:14,133
Right.

2187
02:09:15,655 --> 02:09:18,506
There's in-water work being done.

2188
02:09:18,506 --> 02:09:25,245
We don't know how the footings will be
installed, what equipment's being used,

2189
02:09:25,245 --> 02:09:31,897
where the staging areas necessarily are,
how they're managing disturbed soil,

2190
02:09:31,897 --> 02:09:38,031
if they're doing— you know, so my request
is to discuss with the board,

2191
02:09:38,031 --> 02:09:44,252
can we ask MNR for More complete
information before we refer this to the

2192
02:09:44,252 --> 02:09:44,597
information before we refer this to the
WAC.

2193
02:09:44,597 --> 02:09:51,423
Because the other option is we just refer
this to the WAC and we sit around the

2194
02:09:51,423 --> 02:09:56,606
table and maybe 3 of the 5 of us or all of
us say, you know,

2195
02:09:56,606 --> 02:10:00,408
we don't have the complete information
here.

2196
02:10:00,408 --> 02:10:06,542
This is a project that will likely cause
many nuisances to the village,

2197
02:10:06,542 --> 02:10:13,454
and I think it would be Very helpful for
us to have more transparency around how

2198
02:10:13,454 --> 02:10:16,305
they're going about this project.

2199
02:10:16,305 --> 02:10:22,957
I know that we don't have control over
Metro North; they can do whatever they

2200
02:10:22,957 --> 02:10:23,389
Metro North; they can do whatever they
want,

2201
02:10:23,389 --> 02:10:26,672
and we can't impose any fines on them.

2202
02:10:26,672 --> 02:10:32,201
I mean, but here's an opportunity for us
to say, "Wait a minute!

2203
02:10:32,201 --> 02:10:37,817
This is coming to our Waterfront Advisory
Commission to evaluate,

2204
02:10:37,817 --> 02:10:39,891
make determinations on."

2205
02:10:39,891 --> 02:10:46,370
the LWRP, um, 43 or 44 points, we, we need
more information on the project.

2206
02:10:46,370 --> 02:10:53,282
So that way we, we have it on record, you
know, more information for the public.

2207
02:10:53,282 --> 02:10:57,170
Um, and that's, that's my, my— that's my
ask.

2208
02:10:57,170 --> 02:11:01,489
I mean, I, I did a lot of research on The
project,

2209
02:11:01,489 --> 02:11:05,723
and I can tell you that they made
determinations,

2210
02:11:05,723 --> 02:11:11,252
but they did not share any data to back up
their determinations.

2211
02:11:11,252 --> 02:11:17,386
And the determinations came from a
planner, not Metro North themselves.

2212
02:11:17,386 --> 02:11:22,138
So, you know, I'm personally not
comfortable with this.

2213
02:11:22,138 --> 02:11:24,762
But so thank you, Trustee Nachtaler.

2214
02:11:24,762 --> 02:11:27,094
As I Said when we met on Monday,

2215
02:11:27,094 --> 02:11:31,467
I agreed to request more information from
the planning firm.

2216
02:11:31,467 --> 02:11:37,225
And I also said that the WAC was more than
able to invite a representative from

2217
02:11:37,225 --> 02:11:42,764
their group to attend the meeting to
answer the questions that you may have.

2218
02:11:42,764 --> 02:11:47,355
So I don't think people would sit around
the table and say, oh,

2219
02:11:47,355 --> 02:11:53,477
we don't have enough information. But All
of that aside, you're— this is a referral.

2220
02:11:53,477 --> 02:11:58,871
This is an administrative task that you
are doing, and it goes to the WAC,

2221
02:11:58,871 --> 02:12:01,057
and then it comes back to you.

2222
02:12:01,057 --> 02:12:06,086
So even if you don't— you don't have to
agree with what the WAC says.

2223
02:12:06,086 --> 02:12:09,366
You could take what the WAC says and say,
no,

2224
02:12:09,366 --> 02:12:12,208
I still think we need more information.

2225
02:12:12,208 --> 02:12:17,456
And then, my opinion, that would be the
appropriate time for this board,

2226
02:12:17,456 --> 02:12:20,881
the village board, to ask for more
information.

2227
02:12:20,881 --> 02:12:26,712
This is not— this is not your, your time
right now. You— this is the WAC's time.

2228
02:12:26,712 --> 02:12:32,834
So, you know, I think the proper course of
action here in accordance with our law is

2229
02:12:32,834 --> 02:12:35,385
that this gets referred to the WAC.

2230
02:12:35,385 --> 02:12:39,612
The WAC, if you read the section of the
code with the WAC,

2231
02:12:39,612 --> 02:12:44,568
they are entitled to ask for more
information, delay their decision.

2232
02:12:44,568 --> 02:12:50,107
They can ask for experts and charge the—
charge it to the consultant. Right.

2233
02:12:50,107 --> 02:12:54,845
I mean, they have a lot of power to do
these consistency reviews.

2234
02:12:54,845 --> 02:12:58,051
So, but there's no— there's no— this is
not—

2235
02:12:58,051 --> 02:13:03,007
this is not an application like a special
permit application, right?

2236
02:13:03,007 --> 02:13:05,485
This is not a village application.

2237
02:13:05,485 --> 02:13:09,858
This is— you don't have any— as Stacey
Nachtaler was saying,

2238
02:13:09,858 --> 02:13:15,908
you don't have necessarily any authority
over the project that they are conducting.

2239
02:13:15,908 --> 02:13:20,062
You know, certainly not any Activity in
the water, right?

2240
02:13:20,062 --> 02:13:24,070
That's, uh, Coast Guard— um, sorry, DEC
and Army Corps.

2241
02:13:24,070 --> 02:13:28,152
Um, you know, and the rest of it on there,
on, you know,

2242
02:13:28,152 --> 02:13:32,015
Metro-North or MTA property, right, is,
you know, as,

2243
02:13:32,015 --> 02:13:37,627
as we know from many activities over the
year with, with the railroad, right,

2244
02:13:37,627 --> 02:13:41,125
we don't have, you know, authority over.
So, um—

2245
02:13:41,125 --> 02:13:43,493
And this is going to be in the river.

2246
02:13:43,493 --> 02:13:46,501
People will see this Activity on the
Riverwalk.

2247
02:13:46,501 --> 02:13:47,973
You know, I just think,

2248
02:13:47,973 --> 02:13:52,582
when is the time where we have any
leverage at all to be asking for more

2249
02:13:52,582 --> 02:13:53,094
leverage at all to be asking for more
complete

2250
02:13:53,094 --> 02:13:54,822
information on the project?

2251
02:13:54,822 --> 02:13:56,934
You know, is it— and, and I just,

2252
02:13:56,934 --> 02:14:01,030
I don't personally understand how the WAC
could do its job with—

2253
02:14:01,030 --> 02:14:05,326
No, I know, but as I just said on Monday
while we were in my office, I,

2254
02:14:05,326 --> 02:14:09,379
I asked them for more information. I've,
I've made the ask already.

2255
02:14:09,379 --> 02:14:14,038
So yeah, no, so I, I mean, I just I don't
necessarily see what benefit— well,

2256
02:14:14,038 --> 02:14:19,120
besides the fact that I don't think it's,
it's necessarily right in the process, um,

2257
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:23,839
but I don't really see the benefit in
delaying it for another 2 weeks, um, to—

2258
02:14:23,839 --> 02:14:27,227
you're going to see the information anyway
at, you know,

2259
02:14:27,227 --> 02:14:32,248
because it has to come back to you. You're
not being asked to make a determination.

2260
02:14:32,248 --> 02:14:36,907
You as the village board are not being
asked to make a determination tonight.

2261
02:14:36,907 --> 02:14:40,597
All you're doing is referring it to the
WAC so that they can—

2262
02:14:40,597 --> 02:14:44,335
Oh, I know. It's just that I'm on the WAC,
so I'm thinking—

2263
02:14:44,335 --> 02:14:49,083
I know, but you're not sitting in your WAC
capacity right now. Right. I understand.

2264
02:14:49,083 --> 02:14:52,698
Manager, just— I think I heard you
correctly.

2265
02:14:52,698 --> 02:14:57,679
Is it possible to have either Metro North
or the Dewberry firm

2266
02:14:57,679 --> 02:14:58,804
available for—

2267
02:14:58,804 --> 02:15:01,162
Yeah, they've already agreed to be there.

2268
02:15:01,162 --> 02:15:02,413
In person or by Zoom?

2269
02:15:02,413 --> 02:15:03,824
I think they're going to be on Zoom.

2270
02:15:03,824 --> 02:15:08,219
Okay. That's— yeah, I think that's
helpful. Yeah, and yeah, because they'll—

2271
02:15:08,411 --> 02:15:12,394
and like I said, they'll be able to either
answer your questions or say,

2272
02:15:12,394 --> 02:15:14,828
I'll need more time to get that
information.

2273
02:15:14,828 --> 02:15:18,313
And then if the WAC feels like they can't
make a determination,

2274
02:15:18,313 --> 02:15:22,351
there's nothing that requires you to make
a determination in one meeting.

2275
02:15:22,351 --> 02:15:25,393
You can hold it over until the next— your
next meeting.

2276
02:15:25,393 --> 02:15:28,766
And you've given them, I would imagine, of
course, you know,

2277
02:15:28,766 --> 02:15:30,846
Trustee Nachtaler was there with you,

2278
02:15:30,846 --> 02:15:34,613
but the range of information that you're
interested in in terms of—

2279
02:15:34,613 --> 02:15:35,222
Yes.

2280
02:15:35,222 --> 02:15:36,617
So they should come prepared.

2281
02:15:36,617 --> 02:15:38,967
Yes, they— yes. So unfortunately, the, um,

2282
02:15:38,967 --> 02:15:42,661
the lead planner on the project is out of
the office this weekend,

2283
02:15:42,661 --> 02:15:46,522
but she will be back— sorry, this week—
and she'll be back on Monday.

2284
02:15:46,522 --> 02:15:46,956
Okay.

2285
02:15:47,004 --> 02:15:49,461
So, and we're meeting Tuesday, so yeah,
that's fine.

2286
02:15:49,461 --> 02:15:54,463
Okay, so I agree. I mean, I think that
process-wise it should go to the WAC, um,

2287
02:15:54,463 --> 02:15:58,965
and then they can, if they have the
ability to ask for more information,

2288
02:15:58,965 --> 02:16:03,529
that's the point. Um, I also just want to
say I appreciate your research.

2289
02:16:03,529 --> 02:16:06,905
I appreciate your concerns. I have a very
big concern.

2290
02:16:06,905 --> 02:16:11,470
I think the biggest economic risk to
Croton-on-Hudson is the tracks being

2291
02:16:11,470 --> 02:16:15,534
underwater, uh, in 20 to 30 years. And
that's a real possibility.

2292
02:16:15,534 --> 02:16:18,785
And that's, you know, why they need to do
this work.

2293
02:16:18,785 --> 02:16:22,849
So unfortunately, it may cause some
nuisance in the village, but—

2294
02:16:22,849 --> 02:16:24,230
Or safety in general.

2295
02:16:24,230 --> 02:16:25,567
And safety in general.

2296
02:16:25,567 --> 02:16:30,490
We're going to see these tracks flooding,
and they, they do need to do this work.

2297
02:16:30,490 --> 02:16:33,893
So I Do support being careful, but at the
same time, um,

2298
02:16:33,893 --> 02:16:38,755
I also don't want to be a roadblock to
important work that needs to be done from

2299
02:16:38,755 --> 02:16:38,815
important work that needs to be done from
a

2300
02:16:38,815 --> 02:16:39,180
track.

2301
02:16:39,180 --> 02:16:42,464
You know, and actually, I, I commend you,
Trustee Nachtaler.

2302
02:16:42,464 --> 02:16:46,952
It's, it's an innovative approach to try
to get them to actually come into the WAC

2303
02:16:46,952 --> 02:16:49,799
and, and meet with us and, and be
available for, uh,

2304
02:16:49,799 --> 02:16:52,645
to supplement the information that they've
given us.

2305
02:16:52,645 --> 02:16:58,320
Yeah, thank you. I'm definitely not
looking to be a roadblock to Progress on

2306
02:16:58,320 --> 02:16:58,843
looking to be a roadblock to Progress on
coastal

2307
02:16:58,843 --> 02:17:04,593
resiliency. But if it's an opportunity to
share more transparency around this

2308
02:17:04,593 --> 02:17:06,385
project for the village,

2309
02:17:06,385 --> 02:17:12,210
because we know that we're going to be
getting calls when stuff starts popping

2310
02:17:12,210 --> 02:17:12,434
getting calls when stuff starts popping
up.

2311
02:17:12,434 --> 02:17:16,168
And if we don't know, you know, it just—
we don't—

2312
02:17:16,168 --> 02:17:21,395
we know what that position is like. And if
we can avoid it, great. So.

2313
02:17:21,395 --> 02:17:27,690
Is this also an opportunity for us to
invite our planner to sit into that

2314
02:17:27,690 --> 02:17:28,294
invite our planner to sit into that
meeting

2315
02:17:28,294 --> 02:17:35,193
just to help to give some perspective and
some additional guidance to the WAC as

2316
02:17:35,193 --> 02:17:41,574
they approach the pre— you know, the
proposal, to help them ask questions?

2317
02:17:41,574 --> 02:17:45,714
I know that everyone on the WAC is very
skilled,

2318
02:17:45,714 --> 02:17:52,267
but I do think that This is both an
environmental situation and a, you know,

2319
02:17:52,267 --> 02:17:54,423
transportation situation.

2320
02:17:54,423 --> 02:18:01,150
I just think I have grown to really
appreciate what Valerie and her team bring

2321
02:18:01,150 --> 02:18:01,322
appreciate what Valerie and her team bring
to

2322
02:18:01,322 --> 02:18:07,790
the table. And I think this could be
another opportunity to, you know, just

2323
02:18:07,790 --> 02:18:08,221
another opportunity to, you know, just
have,

2324
02:18:08,221 --> 02:18:13,654
you know, more perspective and people at
the table from Croton.

2325
02:18:13,654 --> 02:18:13,768
Yeah.

2326
02:18:14,326 --> 02:18:18,576
I don't have any objection to that, but I
think we should let the WAC review it.

2327
02:18:18,576 --> 02:18:19,804
Can we offer it to them?

2328
02:18:19,804 --> 02:18:22,632
Yeah, and make that decision if that's
what they would like.

2329
02:18:22,632 --> 02:18:25,149
It's a good idea.

2330
02:18:25,149 --> 02:18:25,554
Yep.

2331
02:18:25,554 --> 02:18:32,109
Thank you. All right, thank you for— thank
you.

2332
02:18:32,109 --> 02:18:35,022
So, oh, do we need a separate resolution?

2333
02:18:35,022 --> 02:18:37,922
No, I think— well, I mean, we've had a
motion and a second, so.

2334
02:18:37,922 --> 02:18:39,040
All in favor? Aye.

2335
02:18:40,473 --> 02:18:42,174
Trustee Nachtaler, do you want to vote
nay, or—

2336
02:18:42,174 --> 02:18:47,405
If— well, you said you're— they're going
to come and speak at the WAC.

2337
02:18:47,405 --> 02:18:47,842
Yeah.

2338
02:18:47,842 --> 02:18:50,546
So I'm— I support that.

2339
02:18:50,546 --> 02:18:50,902
Okay.

2340
02:18:50,902 --> 02:18:52,051
Yeah, thank you for asking.

2341
02:18:52,051 --> 02:18:53,201
So that's unanimous, Judy.

2342
02:18:53,201 --> 02:18:57,232
But I didn't know they were able to come.
It's unanimous, no confusion.

2343
02:18:57,232 --> 02:18:57,880
Yeah.

2344
02:18:57,880 --> 02:19:00,327
Yeah.

2345
02:19:00,327 --> 02:19:02,791
Back on track.

2346
02:19:05,729 --> 02:19:08,137
All right, we proceed to proposed
resolutions.

2347
02:19:08,137 --> 02:19:10,607
Okay.

2348
02:19:10,607 --> 02:19:12,600
2.

2349
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:16,216
Bless him. Thank you.

2350
02:19:16,216 --> 02:19:19,509
Whereas the Village of
Cortlandt-on-the-Hudson recently solicited

2351
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:20,269
Cortlandt-on-the-Hudson recently solicited
sealed bids for

2352
02:19:20,269 --> 02:19:22,752
trade labor services under bid number 22
of 2025,

2353
02:19:22,752 --> 02:19:26,147
and whereas this bid was broken down into
the following categories,

2354
02:19:26,147 --> 02:19:29,896
allowing vendors to individually bid on
the categories applicable to them:

2355
02:19:29,896 --> 02:19:33,696
general construction, plumbing, heating,
ventilation, and air conditioning,

2356
02:19:33,696 --> 02:19:34,101
ventilation, and air conditioning,
masonry,

2357
02:19:34,101 --> 02:19:38,205
and roofing. Whereas 6 bids were submitted
by the deadline of January 22nd, 2026.

2358
02:19:38,205 --> 02:19:39,776
Whereas of the 6 bids received,

2359
02:19:39,776 --> 02:19:43,120
2 vendors submitted proposals for the
plumbing portion of the bid.

2360
02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:47,173
And whereas the lowest responsive bid
received was from Joe Lombardo Plumbing of

2361
02:19:47,173 --> 02:19:49,554
Suffern, New York, in the amount of
$42,557.60.

2362
02:19:49,554 --> 02:19:52,189
Whereas Frank Balbi, Superintendent of
Public Works,

2363
02:19:52,189 --> 02:19:55,685
has reviewed the bids and recommends
moving forward with this bidder.

2364
02:19:55,685 --> 02:19:59,586
Now therefore be it resolved that the
Village Manager is hereby authorized to

2365
02:19:59,586 --> 02:19:59,839
Village Manager is hereby authorized to
award

2366
02:19:59,839 --> 02:20:03,589
bid number 22 of 2025 For trade labor
services, plumbing, to Joe Lombardo,

2367
02:20:03,589 --> 02:20:06,578
Plumbing of Suffern, New York, in the
amount of $42,557.60.

2368
02:20:06,578 --> 02:20:10,875
Do I have a motion?

2369
02:20:10,875 --> 02:20:12,212
So moved.

2370
02:20:12,212 --> 02:20:12,679
Second.

2371
02:20:12,679 --> 02:20:15,579
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson.

2372
02:20:15,579 --> 02:20:20,206
So that, that dollar amount just kind of
represents the average, you know, that's—

2373
02:20:20,206 --> 02:20:24,890
that doesn't mean that that's what we're
going to pay him because it's based on how

2374
02:20:24,890 --> 02:20:26,921
often we have to have services done.

2375
02:20:26,921 --> 02:20:29,769
There's no payment until their call— their
services are called upon.

2376
02:20:29,956 --> 02:20:37,490
Right. Yeah, so that's just based off of
what an average year of, um, plumbing is.

2377
02:20:37,490 --> 02:20:37,949
Yeah.

2378
02:20:37,949 --> 02:20:43,803
All right, further discussion? All in
favor?

2379
02:20:46,343 --> 02:20:46,455
Aye.

2380
02:20:48,257 --> 02:20:51,474
Whereas the village issued an invitation
to bid on July 16th,

2381
02:20:51,474 --> 02:20:55,641
2026 for the purchase of a 2025 or 2026
Chevrolet Tahoe police Pursuit Vehicle.

2382
02:20:55,641 --> 02:20:59,069
Whereas one bid was submitted by the
deadline of July 24th, 2026.

2383
02:20:59,069 --> 02:21:02,920
Whereas the lowest bid received was from
Emergency Vehicle Specialists of

2384
02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:05,504
Poughkeepsie, New York, in the amount of
$51,900.

2385
02:21:05,504 --> 02:21:07,772
Whereas John Nikitopoulos, Chief of
Police,

2386
02:21:07,772 --> 02:21:10,462
has recommended moving forward with the
low bidder.

2387
02:21:10,462 --> 02:21:14,523
Now therefore be it resolved that the
Village Manager is hereby authorized to

2388
02:21:14,523 --> 02:21:14,787
Village Manager is hereby authorized to
award

2389
02:21:14,787 --> 02:21:19,006
bid number 7 of 2026 to Emergency Vehicle
Specialists of Poughkeepsie, New York,

2390
02:21:19,006 --> 02:21:20,747
in the amount of $51,900. Second.

2391
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:22,957
Do I have a motion?

2392
02:21:22,957 --> 02:21:23,655
So moved.

2393
02:21:23,655 --> 02:21:24,547
Second.

2394
02:21:24,547 --> 02:21:27,564
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson.

2395
02:21:27,564 --> 02:21:33,933
This was one of the, uh, vehicles included
in the capital budget for this year, so.

2396
02:21:33,933 --> 02:21:38,547
All right, further discussion? All in
favor? Aye.

2397
02:21:38,547 --> 02:21:42,203
Whereas the village issued an invitation
to bid on July 30th, 2026,

2398
02:21:42,203 --> 02:21:44,822
for the purchase of a loader-mounted
snowblower,

2399
02:21:44,822 --> 02:21:48,587
and whereas 4 bids were submitted by the
deadline of August 11, 2026,

2400
02:21:48,587 --> 02:21:53,006
whereas the lowest bid received was from
FDR Hitches of Roselle Park, New Jersey,

2401
02:21:53,006 --> 02:21:57,099
in the amount of $62,599, and whereas
Frank Balvi, Superintendent of Public

2402
02:21:57,099 --> 02:21:57,426
Frank Balvi, Superintendent of Public
Works,

2403
02:21:57,426 --> 02:22:00,209
has recommended moving forward with the
low bidder.

2404
02:22:00,209 --> 02:22:04,410
Now therefore be it resolved that the
Village Manager is hereby authorized to

2405
02:22:04,410 --> 02:22:04,683
Village Manager is hereby authorized to
award

2406
02:22:04,683 --> 02:22:08,230
bid number 10 of 2026 to FDR Hitches of
Roselle Park, New Jersey,

2407
02:22:08,230 --> 02:22:09,594
in the amount of $62,599.

2408
02:22:09,594 --> 02:22:13,990
Do I have a motion?

2409
02:22:14,857 --> 02:22:15,322
So moved.

2410
02:22:15,322 --> 02:22:15,964
Second.

2411
02:22:15,964 --> 02:22:19,171
Motion by Justice Hyman, second by Justice
Nicholson. Discussion?

2412
02:22:19,171 --> 02:22:23,091
I know FDR is looking down from above.

2413
02:22:23,091 --> 02:22:26,805
Just very, very glad that he's being

2414
02:22:26,805 --> 02:22:28,456
celebrated with—

2415
02:22:28,456 --> 02:22:33,475
And I know the DPW team was very excited
about this particular piece of equipment.

2416
02:22:33,475 --> 02:22:38,314
Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, the superintendent's
memo was excellent, I thought,

2417
02:22:38,314 --> 02:22:43,085
just in terms of describing The
efficiencies that it helps bring about.

2418
02:22:43,085 --> 02:22:45,018
And it assures us less snow.

2419
02:22:45,018 --> 02:22:47,790
Yeah, we're already— we're gonna have no
snow.

2420
02:22:47,790 --> 02:22:52,189
Yeah, we've already talked about sidewalk
shoveling, snow blowers, right?

2421
02:22:52,930 --> 02:22:54,218
So continue.

2422
02:22:54,218 --> 02:22:56,728
If you buy— if you buy salt, I'm leaving.

2423
02:22:56,728 --> 02:23:01,527
And also the parking, alternate side
parking.

2424
02:23:01,527 --> 02:23:03,703
Yes. Yeah, that's coming next.

2425
02:23:03,849 --> 02:23:05,538
Fix the roof when the sun is shining.

2426
02:23:06,617 --> 02:23:10,760
All in favor? Aye. Whereas the replacement
of traffic signals on South Riverside

2427
02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:15,059
Avenue at its intersection with Benedict
Boulevard and its intersection with Cordon

2428
02:23:15,059 --> 02:23:18,063
Point Avenue was included in the 2025-2026
capital budget,

2429
02:23:18,063 --> 02:23:21,792
and whereas the level technical
specification needed for the development

2430
02:23:21,792 --> 02:23:22,309
specification needed for the development
of the bid

2431
02:23:22,309 --> 02:23:26,608
documents requires third-party assistance,
and whereas Nelson and Pope Engineering,

2432
02:23:26,608 --> 02:23:28,939
Architecture, and Land Surveying of
Melville,

2433
02:23:28,939 --> 02:23:32,927
New York has provided the proposal in the
amount of $9,500 to develop the bid

2434
02:23:32,927 --> 02:23:35,568
documents and provide assistance during
bid review.

2435
02:23:35,568 --> 02:23:39,556
Now therefore be it resolved that the
village manager is hereby authorized to

2436
02:23:39,556 --> 02:23:39,866
village manager is hereby authorized to
accept

2437
02:23:39,866 --> 02:23:42,974
the proposal from Nelson and Pope
Engineering, Architecture,

2438
02:23:42,974 --> 02:23:46,392
and Land Surveying of Melville, New York,
in the amount of $9,500.

2439
02:23:46,392 --> 02:23:49,335
Do I have a motion?

2440
02:23:49,335 --> 02:23:50,636
So moved.

2441
02:23:50,636 --> 02:23:51,151
Second.

2442
02:23:51,151 --> 02:23:54,894
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. Discussion?

2443
02:23:54,894 --> 02:24:00,093
Well, uh, Mayor, the firm has been doing a
great job for us in grant writing,

2444
02:24:00,093 --> 02:24:02,929
been doing a great job for us in planning.

2445
02:24:02,929 --> 02:24:04,887
And so I'm glad to know that—

2446
02:24:04,887 --> 02:24:08,668
learned recently that they've got this
capacity as well.

2447
02:24:08,668 --> 02:24:14,002
And it's, it's in effect like bringing on
additional staff capacity so that the

2448
02:24:14,002 --> 02:24:19,607
superintendent doesn't have to put aside
everything else that he's doing for a week

2449
02:24:19,607 --> 02:24:22,645
to prepare the paperwork, the
specifications.

2450
02:24:22,645 --> 02:24:26,117
Yeah, we have over the past couple of
years, you know,

2451
02:24:26,117 --> 02:24:30,874
the board has wanted to support a lot of
capital projects, which is great.

2452
02:24:30,874 --> 02:24:34,282
And, you know, we want to improve our
infrastructure.

2453
02:24:34,282 --> 02:24:37,304
But there's only so many hours in a day,
right?

2454
02:24:37,304 --> 02:24:42,704
And so, you know, like, for example, this
project was funded last year in, you know,

2455
02:24:42,704 --> 02:24:44,376
June of 2025. But it just—

2456
02:24:44,376 --> 02:24:48,748
there's a lot of work that goes into this
type of bid specification.

2457
02:24:48,748 --> 02:24:51,512
And so we haven't been able to get it
done.

2458
02:24:51,512 --> 02:24:54,791
So, you know, I was happy, like Trustee
Simon said,

2459
02:24:54,791 --> 02:24:59,999
I was happy to learn that Valerie's firm
also offers this Uh, you know, capacity.

2460
02:24:59,999 --> 02:25:03,921
And so I was, I was very happy to get the
proposal from them.

2461
02:25:04,066 --> 02:25:04,527
Indeed.

2462
02:25:07,527 --> 02:25:08,608
Great. All in favor? Aye.

2463
02:25:10,992 --> 02:25:15,052
Whereas the Village of Cortlandt Hudson
assumed the ownership of and maintenance

2464
02:25:15,052 --> 02:25:19,163
requirements for the Half Moon Bay Bridge
over the Metro-North railroad tracks in

2465
02:25:19,163 --> 02:25:23,376
1996, and whereas in order to address past
safety issues and the proper maintenance

2466
02:25:23,376 --> 02:25:27,589
of the bridge, the village is moving ahead
with the rehabilitation and construction

2467
02:25:27,589 --> 02:25:29,010
of the Half Moon Bay Bridge.

2468
02:25:29,010 --> 02:25:30,735
And whereas on February 7th, 2024,

2469
02:25:30,735 --> 02:25:34,796
the Village Board of Trustees adopted
Resolution Number 29 of 2024 to accept the

2470
02:25:34,796 --> 02:25:37,942
proposal from Tectonic Engineering of
Rocky Hill, Connecticut,

2471
02:25:37,942 --> 02:25:41,495
to provide consulting and engineering
design services for the project.

2472
02:25:41,495 --> 02:25:45,353
And whereas Tectonic has provided a
proposal to cover an additional scope of

2473
02:25:45,353 --> 02:25:45,556
proposal to cover an additional scope of
work

2474
02:25:45,556 --> 02:25:49,717
related to submissions required by the New
York State Department of Transportation

2475
02:25:49,717 --> 02:25:50,986
in the amount of $32,230.

2476
02:25:50,986 --> 02:25:54,691
Now therefore be it resolved that the
Village Board hereby authorizes the

2477
02:25:54,691 --> 02:25:55,047
Village Board hereby authorizes the
Village

2478
02:25:55,047 --> 02:25:58,904
Manager to accept the proposal from
Tectonic Engineering for the above scope

2479
02:25:58,904 --> 02:25:59,005
Tectonic Engineering for the above scope
of

2480
02:25:59,005 --> 02:26:02,812
work, and be it further resolved that
funding for such work is available in

2481
02:26:02,812 --> 02:26:03,167
funding for such work is available in
account

2482
02:26:03,167 --> 02:26:04,030
H5110.2106.15287.

2483
02:26:04,030 --> 02:26:05,801
Do I have a motion?

2484
02:26:05,801 --> 02:26:06,880
So moved.

2485
02:26:06,880 --> 02:26:09,231
Do I have a second?

2486
02:26:09,231 --> 02:26:10,362
Second.

2487
02:26:10,362 --> 02:26:13,383
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. Discussion?

2488
02:26:13,383 --> 02:26:16,418
So, Manager, how does this work evolve?

2489
02:26:16,418 --> 02:26:21,320
From what we'd previously had in terms of
the engineering work?

2490
02:26:21,320 --> 02:26:24,345
These are just additional scopes of work.

2491
02:26:24,345 --> 02:26:30,248
You know, New York State DOT, as they go
through their review process, you know,

2492
02:26:30,248 --> 02:26:34,085
asked for— I mean, I could pull it up
here. Exactly.

2493
02:26:34,085 --> 02:26:39,397
But they just asked for tweaks to
different things that were outside the

2494
02:26:39,397 --> 02:26:39,987
different things that were outside the
original

2495
02:26:39,987 --> 02:26:41,611
scope of the proposal.

2496
02:26:41,611 --> 02:26:47,292
So they calculated that that Um, that
additional asks came up to that number.

2497
02:26:47,292 --> 02:26:50,545
So it's nothing like, um, oh gee, we never
looked at that before.

2498
02:26:50,545 --> 02:26:54,349
This is an additional requirement, uh,
from— I'm sure, sure it's worthy, you

2499
02:26:54,349 --> 02:26:54,599
from— I'm sure, sure it's worthy, you
know,

2500
02:26:54,599 --> 02:26:55,200
coming from—

2501
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:59,139
Yes. Yeah, you know, Superintendent Balbi
reviewed it and agreed with it.

2502
02:26:59,139 --> 02:27:00,272
So yeah, you're good.

2503
02:27:02,566 --> 02:27:02,986
Yep.

2504
02:27:02,986 --> 02:27:05,571
Very good. With the resolutions concluded,

2505
02:27:05,571 --> 02:27:10,065
we proceed to public comment on non-agenda
item— oh, sorry, all in favor?

2506
02:27:10,840 --> 02:27:10,856
Aye.

2507
02:27:10,856 --> 02:27:10,968
Aye.

2508
02:27:10,968 --> 02:27:13,261
All right, uh, with, uh, resolutions
concluded,

2509
02:27:13,261 --> 02:27:15,652
we proceed to public comment on non-agenda
items.

2510
02:27:15,652 --> 02:27:18,774
Anyone wishing to comment on anything,
this is your opportunity.

2511
02:27:18,774 --> 02:27:20,482
Please state your name and address.

2512
02:27:20,482 --> 02:27:25,190
Hi, Dave from Farrington. Thank you for
this time to speak.

2513
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:31,096
First, I'd like to say thank you to
whomever is responsible for the yellow

2514
02:27:31,096 --> 02:27:31,654
whomever is responsible for the yellow
markers

2515
02:27:31,654 --> 02:27:37,320
in the no parking spots on Riverside at at
Farrington and High Streets.

2516
02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:42,826
This is a big help trying to navigate
those left turns, so thank you.

2517
02:27:42,826 --> 02:27:48,093
Now, as much as smoking on commercial
aircraft is now unthinkable,

2518
02:27:48,093 --> 02:27:53,520
future generations will wonder why
gas-powered leaf blowers remained

2519
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:54,398
gas-powered leaf blowers remained
commonplace

2520
02:27:54,398 --> 02:27:58,148
long after their harms became abundantly
clear.

2521
02:27:58,148 --> 02:28:02,059
It's because lawmakers like you that we
all wait,

2522
02:28:02,059 --> 02:28:07,166
covering our ears and mouths and
sheltering our children inside.

2523
02:28:07,166 --> 02:28:10,039
Waiting for the toxins to dissipate.

2524
02:28:10,039 --> 02:28:15,146
Mayor Pugh, do you remember playing
outside when you were a kid?

2525
02:28:15,146 --> 02:28:21,211
Do you remember when your parents asked
you to come inside from the backyard

2526
02:28:21,211 --> 02:28:21,769
you to come inside from the backyard
because

2527
02:28:21,769 --> 02:28:24,802
carcinogens are coming over the fence?

2528
02:28:24,802 --> 02:28:28,952
Did you close the window to concentrate on
homework,

2529
02:28:28,952 --> 02:28:34,458
but a machine was making 100 decibels
outside, making it difficult to

2530
02:28:34,458 --> 02:28:35,415
outside, making it difficult to
concentrate?

2531
02:28:35,415 --> 02:28:39,326
Well, that's what our kids have to deal
with now.

2532
02:28:39,326 --> 02:28:45,311
Board of Trustees, Mayor Pugh, you have
not acted in the interest of public

2533
02:28:45,311 --> 02:28:45,869
not acted in the interest of public
health.

2534
02:28:45,869 --> 02:28:51,934
in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, and
so far 2026, after the knowledge,

2535
02:28:51,934 --> 02:28:56,483
the facts delivered to you by the CAC in
October of 2020.

2536
02:28:56,483 --> 02:28:58,877
Now, just about 6 years later,

2537
02:28:58,877 --> 02:29:05,181
with towns across Westchester already
multiple years into full-year ordinances,

2538
02:29:05,181 --> 02:29:08,453
you've not seen fit to follow their lead,

2539
02:29:08,453 --> 02:29:14,678
but instead punted the issue of this
public health threat back to the CAC with

2540
02:29:14,678 --> 02:29:14,758
public health threat back to the CAC with
a

2541
02:29:14,758 --> 02:29:21,301
huge list of new asks that has resulted in
exactly what you wanted— further delay.

2542
02:29:21,301 --> 02:29:27,606
You've given them a task equivalent to
Charlie Brown reading War and Peace over

2543
02:29:27,606 --> 02:29:33,670
summer break. You only acted finally on
May 27th of this year, 3 months ago.

2544
02:29:33,670 --> 02:29:38,299
They told me to expect a recommendation 3
months from now.

2545
02:29:38,299 --> 02:29:40,932
You've asked too much of the CAC.

2546
02:29:40,932 --> 02:29:45,002
It's taking too long, and it's not the
CAC's fault.

2547
02:29:45,002 --> 02:29:48,833
Let's take a closer look at that first C
in CAC.

2548
02:29:48,833 --> 02:29:54,738
It stands for conservation, and this
committee works very hard for Croton.

2549
02:29:54,738 --> 02:29:57,850
But with all this respect they deserve,

2550
02:29:57,850 --> 02:30:04,234
why are you relying on them to advise you
on legislation intended to protect the

2551
02:30:04,234 --> 02:30:06,150
public health of Croton?

2552
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:11,736
What is the CAC's expertise or even
experience with hearing loss, with

2553
02:30:11,736 --> 02:30:12,693
experience with hearing loss, with
carcinogens,

2554
02:30:12,693 --> 02:30:18,279
with carbon monoxide inhaled by children?
We all demand faster action.

2555
02:30:18,279 --> 02:30:22,429
We demand you protect public health. Not
later, now.

2556
02:30:22,429 --> 02:30:27,137
It isn't protecting public health in
Croton what your seat—

2557
02:30:27,137 --> 02:30:29,372
you are in your seats to do?

2558
02:30:29,372 --> 02:30:32,484
In less than 2 weeks, on September 1st,

2559
02:30:32,484 --> 02:30:37,831
a 4-month-long assault on the public
health of Croton begins again.

2560
02:30:37,831 --> 02:30:43,417
Decibels that strip the naked ear, toxins
known to cause cancer, Cool.

2561
02:30:43,417 --> 02:30:48,285
It appears this legislative body of Croton
is okay with that.

2562
02:30:48,285 --> 02:30:52,275
This is what I ask of you beginning
September 1st.

2563
02:30:52,275 --> 02:30:58,340
For the next 4 months, every time you see,
hear, or smell a gas leaf blower,

2564
02:30:58,340 --> 02:31:04,724
right on through the day of New Year's
Eve, I want you to remember that someone,

2565
02:31:04,724 --> 02:31:09,273
a whole lot of someones, including you, is
in harm's way.

2566
02:31:09,273 --> 02:31:14,300
Hearing damage, emphysema, asthma, Lung
and esophageal cancers,

2567
02:31:14,300 --> 02:31:19,886
cardiovascular disease. I hope it's not a
child. Your child. My child.

2568
02:31:19,886 --> 02:31:26,510
The case for ending the use of gas-powered
leaf blowers has been made over and over

2569
02:31:26,510 --> 02:31:28,425
again, going back years.

2570
02:31:28,425 --> 02:31:33,452
The only question is, if you, as the
elected leaders of Croton,

2571
02:31:33,452 --> 02:31:39,517
are willing to do something about it For
the town you were elected to serve.

2572
02:31:39,517 --> 02:31:45,582
It will take commitment and maybe some
intestinal fortitude. Do you have it?

2573
02:31:45,582 --> 02:31:48,854
Is our public health worth it? Thank you.

2574
02:31:48,854 --> 02:31:50,059
Thank you.

2575
02:31:50,059 --> 02:31:59,230
Thank you.

2576
02:32:02,230 --> 02:32:06,132
Thank you. Oh, actually, thank you.

2577
02:32:07,326 --> 02:32:16,264
Thank you.

2578
02:32:19,264 --> 02:32:23,780
Just off topic, I'd like to say that I've
done my lawn for 77 years,

2579
02:32:23,780 --> 02:32:29,159
and my wife insisted that An outside guy
do it, part of the landscaping industry,

2580
02:32:29,159 --> 02:32:33,277
you know. Guy makes about $65,000 a year
and he's the manager,

2581
02:32:33,277 --> 02:32:36,730
as opposed to the other guys that make
like $35,000.

2582
02:32:36,730 --> 02:32:41,047
Um, and so they showed up and he showed up
one of those big jobs,

2583
02:32:41,047 --> 02:32:45,164
lawn mowers that the village uses, which
makes a lot of noise.

2584
02:32:45,164 --> 02:32:50,544
And I have an electric lawn mower, which
makes a lot— Or not electric lawn mower,

2585
02:32:50,544 --> 02:32:53,399
a gas lawn mower. Which makes for a lot
of—

2586
02:32:53,399 --> 02:32:58,314
so he started doing it with the
gas-powered leaf blower, and I ran out and

2587
02:32:58,314 --> 02:32:58,646
gas-powered leaf blower, and I ran out and
said,

2588
02:32:58,646 --> 02:33:01,103
you can't do this, you can't do this.

2589
02:33:01,103 --> 02:33:04,888
Use this electric leaf blower, which I
have, which sucks.

2590
02:33:04,888 --> 02:33:07,678
They really suck, and it costs a lot more.

2591
02:33:07,678 --> 02:33:12,659
Um, don't have the power, don't have the—
they don't last very long either,

2592
02:33:12,659 --> 02:33:17,573
the charge. So he put his away, and, and,
um, I said, let me see that one.

2593
02:33:17,573 --> 02:33:22,023
It's a gas-powered— and he had a low-noise
gas-powered leaf blower.

2594
02:33:22,023 --> 02:33:27,136
And so between whatever leaf blower he
uses and my lawnmower, which spits out

2595
02:33:27,136 --> 02:33:27,535
uses and my lawnmower, which spits out
stuff,

2596
02:33:27,535 --> 02:33:30,656
makes dust all over the place, blows crap
away,

2597
02:33:30,656 --> 02:33:34,906
I'll bet you we make as much noise as any
damn leaf blower does.

2598
02:33:34,906 --> 02:33:37,430
It's when you gang up on leaf blowers.

2599
02:33:37,430 --> 02:33:42,809
And I think that maybe gasoline lawnmowers
are next because They hate gasoline or

2600
02:33:42,809 --> 02:33:46,794
whatever the hell else. I'd like to remind
you of something.

2601
02:33:46,794 --> 02:33:48,786
This is what— I was off topic.

2602
02:33:48,786 --> 02:33:54,166
Um, I was looking as we were dealing with
this outrageous housing proposal across

2603
02:33:54,166 --> 02:33:57,752
from ShopRite, and I believe housing's
going in there.

2604
02:33:57,752 --> 02:34:02,334
It should only be half the size, maybe 30
units. It should look nice.

2605
02:34:02,334 --> 02:34:06,120
It's going to have to reinforce the hell
out of the bank.

2606
02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:11,366
You can use Van Wyck Street as an example.
Reinforce the hell out of that bank.

2607
02:34:11,366 --> 02:34:11,655
Thank you.

2608
02:34:12,719 --> 02:34:15,776
And, and make a project look attractive,

2609
02:34:15,776 --> 02:34:19,979
which the other tracts are either mediocre
or terrible.

2610
02:34:19,979 --> 02:34:26,092
The exceptions being the one that's a
plain development next to the Harmon Deli,

2611
02:34:26,092 --> 02:34:30,295
the 3-story job fits perfectly. It's a
narrow building.

2612
02:34:30,295 --> 02:34:36,485
And then the one which you approved years
ago on a corner where Baked by Susan is

2613
02:34:36,485 --> 02:34:40,536
and on top of the pot shop. It should be
appropriate.

2614
02:34:40,536 --> 02:34:46,267
sized building for the lot, and it should
be in sync with the neighborhood,

2615
02:34:46,267 --> 02:34:50,546
the landscape, and the neighbors.
Neighbors have rights.

2616
02:34:50,546 --> 02:34:54,597
And the infrastructure, which is in doubt
down there.

2617
02:34:54,597 --> 02:34:57,195
In passing these documents around,

2618
02:34:57,195 --> 02:35:01,474
somebody passed the comprehensive plan
from 2005 around,

2619
02:35:01,474 --> 02:35:07,894
and I looked at the front page and I burst
into laughing. I had a laughing out loud.

2620
02:35:07,894 --> 02:35:10,110
Because they said as follows,

2621
02:35:10,110 --> 02:35:14,466
this is a favorite of our state senator
and our governor,

2622
02:35:14,466 --> 02:35:17,446
talking about transit-oriented housing.

2623
02:35:17,446 --> 02:35:22,337
Talking about transit-oriented housing,
you know, parking lot A.

2624
02:35:22,337 --> 02:35:26,234
This is a new up-and-coming idea,
transit-oriented,

2625
02:35:26,234 --> 02:35:32,042
and it's especially put in place in the
states of California and New Jersey.

2626
02:35:32,042 --> 02:35:32,207
Right.

2627
02:35:32,753 --> 02:35:34,895
And when I read that, I said,

2628
02:35:34,895 --> 02:35:40,805
if we follow anything in housing that the
states of New Jersey or California do,

2629
02:35:40,805 --> 02:35:42,356
we're in big trouble.

2630
02:35:42,356 --> 02:35:47,157
We already lost a million people out of
this state in the last 3—

2631
02:35:47,157 --> 02:35:49,595
a million people left this state.

2632
02:35:49,595 --> 02:35:55,579
There's only 2 other states proportionally
that lost more, and that's California,

2633
02:35:55,579 --> 02:36:01,045
Illinois, which is terrible, and New
Jersey. And their housing plans suck.

2634
02:36:01,045 --> 02:36:05,551
If you drive up and down the East Coast of
the United States,

2635
02:36:05,551 --> 02:36:07,767
which I do on a regular basis,

2636
02:36:07,767 --> 02:36:12,569
you will see what their transit-oriented
housing plans look like.

2637
02:36:12,569 --> 02:36:18,478
And Montrose is a perfect example, and of
course, Parking Lot A will be another.

2638
02:36:18,478 --> 02:36:21,876
Montrose looks like a maximum security
prison.

2639
02:36:21,876 --> 02:36:27,342
And I assume as we develop, that's the
kind of housing we're going to get,

2640
02:36:27,342 --> 02:36:33,104
especially with some of the contractors
that have proposed stuff to us lately.

2641
02:36:33,104 --> 02:36:37,536
So I just wanted to bring that to your
attention. Thank you.

2642
02:36:37,536 --> 02:36:41,821
My prime concern right now is RU46. RU
stands for Russell.

2643
02:36:41,821 --> 02:36:47,878
Damn, Euclaf, which was a German French
pharmaceutical firm that was searching for

2644
02:36:47,878 --> 02:36:50,537
stuff to deal with thyroid problems,

2645
02:36:50,537 --> 02:36:55,708
and then they had a six-digit code which
they shortened. 46, 3 digits.

2646
02:36:55,708 --> 02:36:59,697
And then they dumped this abortion pill in
the market.

2647
02:36:59,697 --> 02:37:05,311
And when you look at the development of
that pill in Europe, it had the same

2648
02:37:05,311 --> 02:37:05,828
that pill in Europe, it had the same
tawdry,

2649
02:37:05,828 --> 02:37:11,221
dirty, corrupt development as in the
United States with state and federal

2650
02:37:11,221 --> 02:37:11,959
United States with state and federal
officials.

2651
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:14,988
Last thing I'd like to put on the record,

2652
02:37:14,988 --> 02:37:20,898
this is a card on how to save a child
after The first drug has been administered

2653
02:37:20,898 --> 02:37:21,045
after The first drug has been administered
to

2654
02:37:21,045 --> 02:37:23,483
a woman. You can save that child.

2655
02:37:23,483 --> 02:37:27,694
You can save those twins if you get help
within 72 hours.

2656
02:37:27,694 --> 02:37:32,495
It's the same treatment that is used for
miscarriages. It's only—

2657
02:37:32,495 --> 02:37:33,121
Time, time expired.

2658
02:37:33,121 --> 02:37:34,132
50 years old. Thank you.

2659
02:37:34,132 --> 02:37:37,952
Thank

2660
02:37:37,952 --> 02:37:41,009
you.

2661
02:37:41,009 --> 02:37:45,593
Hello.

2662
02:37:45,593 --> 02:37:48,015
Ned Rust, Morningside Drive.

2663
02:37:48,881 --> 02:37:52,994
I didn't realize there was a meeting
tonight till yesterday,

2664
02:37:52,994 --> 02:37:54,640
so you guys are in luck.

2665
02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:59,782
And I didn't have— so I didn't have time
to prepare a full 5-minute speech.

2666
02:37:59,782 --> 02:38:05,403
And you're extra lucky because I'm going
to offer you some of the best life advice

2667
02:38:05,403 --> 02:38:05,472
to offer you some of the best life advice
I

2668
02:38:05,472 --> 02:38:09,448
can. I know everything in the world is
really Complicated.

2669
02:38:09,635 --> 02:38:12,559
There's a lot of gray. There's a lot of
nuance.

2670
02:38:12,559 --> 02:38:17,102
There are a lot of exceptions and
extenuating factors and caveats running

2671
02:38:17,102 --> 02:38:17,599
extenuating factors and caveats running
over all

2672
02:38:17,599 --> 02:38:21,146
around and, you know, threatening to bite
us in the butt.

2673
02:38:21,884 --> 02:38:24,492
But here's a handy way to make things
really simple.

2674
02:38:26,359 --> 02:38:30,784
There are 2 types of action you can make
in this world and things you can say.

2675
02:38:30,784 --> 02:38:34,188
There are considerate ones and there are
inconsiderate ones.

2676
02:38:34,188 --> 02:38:39,859
And you're either thinking more about
other people when you do or say something,

2677
02:38:39,859 --> 02:38:42,623
or you're thinking more about yourself.

2678
02:38:42,623 --> 02:38:47,444
And guess what the leaf blower
preservationists are doing when they,

2679
02:38:47,444 --> 02:38:50,137
or when they have their paid servants,

2680
02:38:50,137 --> 02:38:54,178
fire up these outdated cancer-causing
pollution machines?

2681
02:38:54,658 --> 02:38:55,812
Are they thinking about others?

2682
02:38:55,812 --> 02:39:01,054
About the carcinogenic legacy of aromatic
hydrocarbons on the children of our

2683
02:39:01,054 --> 02:39:06,296
community about the respiratory and
auditory health of our landscape workers?

2684
02:39:06,296 --> 02:39:09,359
Is that considerate or is that
inconsiderate?

2685
02:39:10,259 --> 02:39:15,489
It's a simple rubric, and you can take it
to your work here on the board too.

2686
02:39:15,489 --> 02:39:19,156
I thank you for your consideration, which,
by the way,

2687
02:39:19,156 --> 02:39:22,756
can be sometimes be include being brief
and decisive.

2688
02:39:23,706 --> 02:39:23,980
Thank you.

2689
02:39:23,980 --> 02:39:29,972
Thank you. Does anyone else wish to

2690
02:39:29,972 --> 02:39:36,478
comment? Seeing no one else wishing to

2691
02:39:36,478 --> 02:39:41,786
comment, we proceed to reports.

2692
02:39:41,786 --> 02:39:44,525
Trustee Slippen.

2693
02:39:44,525 --> 02:39:45,846
Thank you, Mayor. Um,

2694
02:39:45,846 --> 02:39:48,991
there aren't a lot of committee meetings
going on.

2695
02:39:48,991 --> 02:39:52,828
I can't even remember the last time we had
a regular meeting.

2696
02:39:53,170 --> 02:39:54,150
July 15th.

2697
02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:58,433
July 15th. Okay. So there haven't been a
lot of committee meetings,

2698
02:39:58,433 --> 02:40:03,227
but I do want to shout out the Arboretum
who has met throughout the summer,

2699
02:40:03,227 --> 02:40:05,337
and the Arboretum looks terrific.

2700
02:40:05,337 --> 02:40:08,597
I don't know if people have made it there
recently,

2701
02:40:08,597 --> 02:40:13,583
but it looks terrific in spite of the
beaver dam or because of the beaver dam.

2702
02:40:13,583 --> 02:40:16,715
So thank you to the Arboretum folks for
doing so.

2703
02:40:16,715 --> 02:40:21,126
Also, our— a newly formed Although not
technically village committee,

2704
02:40:21,126 --> 02:40:25,728
the Friends of Croton Parks have been busy
at work all summer long also.

2705
02:40:25,728 --> 02:40:30,970
I'm sure that Trustee Nicholson is going
to speak more about that, so I won't, um,

2706
02:40:30,970 --> 02:40:36,084
say too much. But I do just want to thank
that— those 2 organizations for their,

2707
02:40:36,084 --> 02:40:38,513
their work, um, throughout the summer.

2708
02:40:38,513 --> 02:40:43,179
Um, and I just want to take a minute to
talk about committees in general.

2709
02:40:43,179 --> 02:40:46,056
Um, I heard this quote this week, or read
it,

2710
02:40:46,056 --> 02:40:50,403
Just about democracy and how it really
doesn't happen without public

2711
02:40:50,403 --> 02:40:51,298
doesn't happen without public
participation.

2712
02:40:51,298 --> 02:40:52,960
And I really believe that,

2713
02:40:52,960 --> 02:40:57,946
which is why I have been so adamant about
working on our volunteer committees,

2714
02:40:57,946 --> 02:41:00,055
our citizen committees, you know,

2715
02:41:00,055 --> 02:41:05,169
and getting them in a place where not only
the volunteers are being well served,

2716
02:41:05,169 --> 02:41:10,411
but so is the community. I know there's
been a lot of conversation recently about—

2717
02:41:10,411 --> 02:41:10,475
Yeah.

2718
02:41:10,556 --> 02:41:14,366
about the minutes and the agendas and how
everything is working.

2719
02:41:14,366 --> 02:41:18,831
And I do think that it's a work in
progress that we have not perfected yet.

2720
02:41:18,831 --> 02:41:23,475
Trustee Nicholson and I spent a lot of
time on the guidelines and how that was

2721
02:41:23,475 --> 02:41:23,653
time on the guidelines and how that was
all

2722
02:41:23,653 --> 02:41:26,570
going to work and what that's going to
look like.

2723
02:41:26,570 --> 02:41:29,130
And we have certainly not perfected it
yet.

2724
02:41:29,130 --> 02:41:33,893
But in my meeting with the manager this
week, I probably, much to his annoyance,

2725
02:41:33,893 --> 02:41:38,596
said that I would like to have another
work session Or minimally a meeting with

2726
02:41:38,596 --> 02:41:38,774
work session Or minimally a meeting with
the

2727
02:41:38,774 --> 02:41:43,299
committee chairs just to talk about how
it's going and how we can do better,

2728
02:41:43,299 --> 02:41:47,704
because I really do appreciate all those
people who do so much work in all

2729
02:41:47,704 --> 02:41:48,240
people who do so much work in all
different

2730
02:41:48,240 --> 02:41:49,848
capacities for the village.

2731
02:41:49,848 --> 02:41:54,312
Whether or not everybody agrees with
everything they're doing all the time,

2732
02:41:54,312 --> 02:41:56,991
I think we should really be grateful to
them.

2733
02:41:56,991 --> 02:42:01,635
So I just, I think the work is really
important to everyone in the village and

2734
02:42:01,635 --> 02:42:01,814
important to everyone in the village and
how

2735
02:42:01,814 --> 02:42:02,528
we're doing.

2736
02:42:02,528 --> 02:42:03,012
Um.

2737
02:42:03,775 --> 02:42:08,376
You know, another component of that, which
I've been talking about frequently,

2738
02:42:08,376 --> 02:42:11,975
is the inclusion of high school students
on these committees.

2739
02:42:11,975 --> 02:42:16,104
I think it's going to be a very nice way
to create another connection,

2740
02:42:16,104 --> 02:42:17,815
bring in another perspective.

2741
02:42:17,815 --> 02:42:22,653
I do think that there are some items on
the guidelines that we put together that I

2742
02:42:22,653 --> 02:42:23,950
would like to revisit.

2743
02:42:23,950 --> 02:42:26,192
I don't know how exactly that happens,

2744
02:42:26,192 --> 02:42:30,911
if that has to happen at a meeting because
we adopted them if it can happen more

2745
02:42:30,911 --> 02:42:34,569
informally. Um, and I don't need to go
into them now, but, um,

2746
02:42:34,569 --> 02:42:39,288
the activities fair that I hope Trustee
Nicholson will join me at is going to be

2747
02:42:39,288 --> 02:42:39,406
Nicholson will join me at is going to be
on

2748
02:42:39,406 --> 02:42:43,418
September 15th, where we will talk to some
high school students, um,

2749
02:42:43,418 --> 02:42:45,777
about participation on these committees.

2750
02:42:45,777 --> 02:42:48,845
So I just wanted to first say out loud to,
you know,

2751
02:42:48,845 --> 02:42:53,623
all the families whose kids are in the
high school that that's going to happen on

2752
02:42:53,623 --> 02:42:56,809
the 15th, but it is also open to high
school students.

2753
02:42:56,809 --> 02:42:57,033
Thank you.

2754
02:42:57,467 --> 02:43:00,594
who are village residents that maybe don't
go to the high school.

2755
02:43:00,594 --> 02:43:03,577
So I just want to remember that that's an
important component,

2756
02:43:03,577 --> 02:43:06,078
but also talk about making some
adjustments to that.

2757
02:43:06,078 --> 02:43:07,666
So I don't know how that happens,

2758
02:43:07,666 --> 02:43:10,119
but maybe you and I can continue that
conversation.

2759
02:43:10,119 --> 02:43:15,160
And yeah, I mean, depending on what they
are, uh, it was adopted by resolution.

2760
02:43:15,160 --> 02:43:20,202
So I think it says that it's supposed to
be revisited during the organizational

2761
02:43:20,202 --> 02:43:22,435
meeting. So that would be December.

2762
02:43:23,956 --> 02:43:28,000
I just, I think the way it's written right
now maybe would exclude some people that

2763
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:31,947
I would otherwise— I think we— it says the
students have to be village residents,

2764
02:43:31,947 --> 02:43:35,407
which is not even consistent with what our
regular committee rules are.

2765
02:43:35,407 --> 02:43:38,331
I don't want to spend too much more time
talking about this.

2766
02:43:38,331 --> 02:43:42,424
Meeting's already gone on for a while, but
I did want to bring it to your attention.

2767
02:43:42,424 --> 02:43:42,569
Okay.

2768
02:43:42,569 --> 02:43:47,250
And I also, I just want to make sure that
people are aware of this.

2769
02:43:47,250 --> 02:43:52,490
I want to— we had a meeting today
regarding some more planning for Gouveia,

2770
02:43:52,490 --> 02:43:56,751
which is a very frustrating and exciting
project for me, but—

2771
02:43:56,751 --> 02:43:58,428
and for a lot of people.

2772
02:43:58,428 --> 02:44:04,017
But I do think that progress is getting
made there and will continue to get made

2773
02:44:04,017 --> 02:44:06,253
there. There is work being done.

2774
02:44:06,253 --> 02:44:12,051
I hope that we can continue to highlight
the work that's being done there and share

2775
02:44:12,051 --> 02:44:13,518
it in the newsletter.

2776
02:44:13,518 --> 02:44:17,221
And on social media because progress is
getting made,

2777
02:44:17,221 --> 02:44:22,950
especially our our this new group Friends
of Croton Parks has some really exciting

2778
02:44:22,950 --> 02:44:28,679
ideas along with collaborating with the
Recreation Advisory Committee and the Arts

2779
02:44:28,679 --> 02:44:30,425
and Humanities Committee.

2780
02:44:30,425 --> 02:44:36,084
So you know there is progress that I would
like to be celebrating whenever we can

2781
02:44:36,084 --> 02:44:40,136
because it's been a very long how long is
it twelve years?

2782
02:44:40,136 --> 02:44:42,931
But there was progress made there today.

2783
02:44:42,931 --> 02:44:48,799
The other thing I know that you know there
are a couple you know there are a few hot

2784
02:44:48,799 --> 02:44:51,733
topics happening in the village right now,

2785
02:44:51,733 --> 02:44:57,113
and obviously there's been a lot of
attention to the revising of the law that

2786
02:44:57,113 --> 02:44:59,209
includes the pigeon situation.

2787
02:44:59,209 --> 02:45:04,588
I think that what got us to where we are
now are a A couple things, you know,

2788
02:45:04,588 --> 02:45:07,802
that have been unfortunate in how it got
here.

2789
02:45:07,802 --> 02:45:13,461
You know, some decisions were made at the
zoning board meeting that have impacted

2790
02:45:13,461 --> 02:45:15,906
where we are now, and some— I just,

2791
02:45:15,906 --> 02:45:19,539
I really want to be thoughtful about how
we proceed,

2792
02:45:19,539 --> 02:45:24,639
and I really want to make sure that
everybody gets to speak at the public

2793
02:45:24,639 --> 02:45:25,128
everybody gets to speak at the public
hearing

2794
02:45:25,128 --> 02:45:30,717
and that we are not making decisions You
know, we're putting numbers on animals.

2795
02:45:30,717 --> 02:45:36,097
You know, I'm hearing from people, you
know, it's not— it seems that when we,

2796
02:45:36,097 --> 02:45:38,402
when we embarked on this project,

2797
02:45:38,402 --> 02:45:43,223
it seemed like it was going to be a simple
way to make things better.

2798
02:45:43,223 --> 02:45:45,039
And it's very complicated.

2799
02:45:45,039 --> 02:45:50,628
I think that we— I just want to be very
careful about how we're considering what

2800
02:45:50,628 --> 02:45:56,217
we're doing because a lot of people are
going to be impacted and a lot of people

2801
02:45:56,217 --> 02:45:57,824
have opinions about it.

2802
02:45:57,824 --> 02:45:57,953
Yeah.

2803
02:45:59,811 --> 02:46:05,186
And I don't— we can't fix the, the way
that decisions were made in the past,

2804
02:46:05,186 --> 02:46:10,985
but we're going to have the opportunity
over the course of what I hope is a robust

2805
02:46:10,985 --> 02:46:16,501
public hearing to make the right decision
that is going to be the best for the

2806
02:46:16,501 --> 02:46:21,239
village going forward and not create more
issues. That's my report.

2807
02:46:21,239 --> 02:46:24,412
Thank you.

2808
02:46:25,924 --> 02:46:28,357
Judy. Judy.

2809
02:46:29,339 --> 02:46:36,450
I'd like to change my vote to no referral
to the WAC. I don't— thank you.

2810
02:46:36,450 --> 02:46:38,227
I don't think you can do that.

2811
02:46:38,614 --> 02:46:41,974
You've already— attorney. The attorney is
here.

2812
02:46:41,974 --> 02:46:42,975
Let's go to the attorney.

2813
02:46:42,975 --> 02:46:50,543
Go to the video tape. You can't change it
absent another resolution.

2814
02:46:50,543 --> 02:46:54,104
That is a subsequent resolution,

2815
02:46:54,104 --> 02:46:58,667
and that would have to be at the chair's—

2816
02:46:58,667 --> 02:47:04,455
at the chair's option to re-resolve an
action. Okay.

2817
02:47:04,455 --> 02:47:08,907
In other words, you can't— I don't know,

2818
02:47:08,907 --> 02:47:13,247
you can't call the resolution yourself.

2819
02:47:13,247 --> 02:47:17,701
Yeah, once the vote is done, it's final,
right?

2820
02:47:17,701 --> 02:47:22,154
It's like You know, so you can't, you
can't re—

2821
02:47:23,906 --> 02:47:25,528
well, a single member— recall your vote.

2822
02:47:25,689 --> 02:47:25,930
Yeah.

2823
02:47:26,171 --> 02:47:32,292
Or change it in the same meeting that we
just spoke about 5 minutes ago.

2824
02:47:32,292 --> 02:47:38,668
No, I'm saying, what I'm saying is a
single member of the Board of Trustees

2825
02:47:38,668 --> 02:47:39,178
single member of the Board of Trustees
cannot

2826
02:47:39,178 --> 02:47:40,878
reopen a resolution.

2827
02:47:40,878 --> 02:47:45,979
So you'd need to ask, um, the chairman of—
the mayor to, uh,

2828
02:47:45,979 --> 02:47:52,695
to call the question as to whether you
would like to reconsider the resolution.

2829
02:47:52,695 --> 02:47:56,691
Okay, Mayor, I'm sorry to bother you with
this.

2830
02:47:56,691 --> 02:48:00,006
I'll know in the future not to do this.

2831
02:48:00,006 --> 02:48:06,552
If we can possibly reopen it, everyone
will vote the same way, and I'll just,

2832
02:48:06,552 --> 02:48:12,588
for the record, vote no. You just need a
vote of the board to renew it.

2833
02:48:12,588 --> 02:48:15,159
I don't think we've ever recalled a vote,

2834
02:48:15,159 --> 02:48:19,487
and I think it's fine to note your
objections and proceed from there.

2835
02:48:19,487 --> 02:48:21,178
Okay, so—

2836
02:48:21,178 --> 02:48:24,897
But I'm not— I do not wish to reopen the
vote.

2837
02:48:24,897 --> 02:48:28,392
Right. So how— Judy will note my
objections on the minutes?

2838
02:48:28,392 --> 02:48:32,820
Yeah, just as part of your— as part of
your report, right?

2839
02:48:32,820 --> 02:48:37,478
Just say that, you know, Trustee
Nachtaler, upon further, uh,

2840
02:48:37,478 --> 02:48:38,623
reflection, uh—

2841
02:48:38,623 --> 02:48:43,598
Yes, and also comments I heard from here,
which were upsetting.

2842
02:48:43,598 --> 02:48:49,048
So we don't have to get into that, but
thank you for noting it, Judy.

2843
02:48:49,048 --> 02:48:51,022
I appreciate what you do.

2844
02:48:51,022 --> 02:48:52,404
Okay.

2845
02:48:52,404 --> 02:48:57,036
Um, okay, so Sunday, um, this past Sunday,
August 16th,

2846
02:48:57,036 --> 02:49:02,257
I attended the 50th Annual Jewish Music
and Arts Festival, um,

2847
02:49:02,257 --> 02:49:05,710
put on by the Westchester Jewish Council.

2848
02:49:05,710 --> 02:49:12,532
Pam Goldstein invited the board, and, you
know, I had the privilege of, of going.

2849
02:49:12,532 --> 02:49:15,901
And, you know, it was, um, it was great.

2850
02:49:15,901 --> 02:49:22,049
They had a lot of great vendors, a lot of
great music, um, and, you know,

2851
02:49:22,049 --> 02:49:26,175
lots of great attendees and, and good
engagement.

2852
02:49:26,175 --> 02:49:31,565
So there were lots of great services too,
um, for the community.

2853
02:49:31,565 --> 02:49:33,839
So, um, I appreciated that.

2854
02:49:33,839 --> 02:49:34,175
Thank you.

2855
02:49:35,619 --> 02:49:42,350
Also, I appreciated— and I didn't get his
name, but he was in the fire EMS group—

2856
02:49:42,350 --> 02:49:48,665
but I'm grateful for everything that the
fire and EMS teams have been doing.

2857
02:49:48,665 --> 02:49:51,656
I heard they answered 5 calls today.

2858
02:49:51,656 --> 02:49:57,971
We know that they've had, you know, super
challenging rescues at the county.

2859
02:49:57,971 --> 02:50:03,871
Um, it sounds like, um, county park calls
have been kind of heating up.

2860
02:50:03,871 --> 02:50:09,936
So, you know, I guess with summer and, you
know, you have more, you know,

2861
02:50:09,936 --> 02:50:14,922
folks there, um, partying or, you know,
having a great time.

2862
02:50:14,922 --> 02:50:18,827
But, um, you know, I'm really grateful to
them.

2863
02:50:18,827 --> 02:50:25,558
And I do want to mention that the county
emergency service group put out new fire

2864
02:50:25,558 --> 02:50:27,469
safety tips and videos.

2865
02:50:27,469 --> 02:50:27,709
Oh, great.

2866
02:50:28,625 --> 02:50:30,596
Which I think, um, Manager,

2867
02:50:30,596 --> 02:50:35,996
I don't know if that's something we can
ask the Fire Council or, you know,

2868
02:50:35,996 --> 02:50:39,719
the group to put on their website, or
maybe if you—

2869
02:50:39,719 --> 02:50:43,295
if it's appropriate to add a link on our
website.

2870
02:50:43,295 --> 02:50:48,623
But I found these fire safety tips videos
done by the county to be, like,

2871
02:50:48,623 --> 02:50:51,542
really helpful. You know, they're short.

2872
02:50:51,542 --> 02:50:52,490
I've seen them. Yeah.

2873
02:50:52,490 --> 02:50:53,453
Yeah, they're good.

2874
02:50:53,453 --> 02:50:53,678
Yep.

2875
02:50:53,678 --> 02:50:58,636
You know, and Like the gentleman who spoke
tonight, he said that,

2876
02:50:58,636 --> 02:51:03,289
you know, they've been answering a lot
more calls than usual.

2877
02:51:03,289 --> 02:51:08,781
And, you know, so I, I think it's, uh,
it's helpful if we can, you know,

2878
02:51:08,781 --> 02:51:09,849
promote those.

2879
02:51:09,849 --> 02:51:13,162
We can, we can link to those, and I'll,
I'll, you know, um,

2880
02:51:13,162 --> 02:51:17,317
reach out to the chiefs about using their
social media to promote it also.

2881
02:51:17,317 --> 02:51:22,887
Yeah, thank you. Um, And I do want to
thank the planning board.

2882
02:51:22,887 --> 02:51:29,076
You know, they've worked very hard on the
425 South Riverside project,

2883
02:51:29,076 --> 02:51:35,177
and I thought that they handled the
planning board meeting, you know,

2884
02:51:35,177 --> 02:51:37,475
with real professionalism.

2885
02:51:37,475 --> 02:51:44,195
You know, and I know that the public is,
and thank you, Laurie Lee, as well,

2886
02:51:44,195 --> 02:51:48,969
and to our planner. I think everybody did
a great job.

2887
02:51:48,969 --> 02:51:52,506
So I know, you know, that we're waiting.

2888
02:51:52,506 --> 02:51:58,960
The planning board is waiting for that
application to come back with more

2889
02:51:58,960 --> 02:52:01,701
specifics, right? So, you know,

2890
02:52:01,701 --> 02:52:06,033
we'll see if it ends up getting on the
September—

2891
02:52:06,033 --> 02:52:09,110
Yeah, the August 25th meeting was
canceled.

2892
02:52:09,110 --> 02:52:12,329
So the next meeting would be September
Right.

2893
02:52:12,329 --> 02:52:16,336
Yeah, so the— and the deadline for that
would be Monday.

2894
02:52:16,336 --> 02:52:21,535
Yeah, yeah. So I know there's a lot of
public interest in that, but I,

2895
02:52:21,535 --> 02:52:25,322
I thought the planning board did a really
good job.

2896
02:52:25,322 --> 02:52:29,704
Um, and, um, I do want to just give a
shout out to the VEB,

2897
02:52:29,704 --> 02:52:32,377
the Visual Advisory Board. They met.

2898
02:52:32,377 --> 02:52:37,798
I know Trustee Slippen was on the call
with me, and so were you, Manager.

2899
02:52:37,798 --> 02:52:41,289
Um, you know, they're a small but mighty
group.

2900
02:52:41,289 --> 02:52:47,156
So, you know, I know we're going to look
forward to the meetings in person, um,

2901
02:52:47,156 --> 02:52:52,057
as well. I understand, right, they'll move
from Zoom to in person,

2902
02:52:52,057 --> 02:52:54,137
which I think will be great.

2903
02:52:54,137 --> 02:52:57,404
And I know— thank you, Manager, for
sharing,

2904
02:52:57,404 --> 02:53:01,637
giving them advanced peek and opportunity
to weigh in on,

2905
02:53:01,637 --> 02:53:06,316
on the color for underneath the Half Moon
Bay Bridge for paint.

2906
02:53:06,316 --> 02:53:06,509
Yes.

2907
02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:12,703
So, you know, that was, that was good, um,
good timing on that. I appreciate it.

2908
02:53:12,703 --> 02:53:16,237
We're happy. I'm happy to have them weigh
in on stuff.

2909
02:53:16,237 --> 02:53:18,462
You know, it's, it's what they're—

2910
02:53:18,462 --> 02:53:21,015
that's what they're there for to do it.

2911
02:53:21,208 --> 02:53:28,291
Yeah. So, yeah. And, um, just the seniors
club, um, you know, the senior club, I'm,

2912
02:53:28,291 --> 02:53:34,607
I'm a liaison with Deputy Mayor Simon, and
they meet every Friday, uh, 11.

2913
02:53:34,607 --> 02:53:37,850
To 1, and their meetings from 12 to 1.

2914
02:53:37,850 --> 02:53:44,592
Um, and they have a pizza party coming up
at the Yacht Club September 11th, uh,

2915
02:53:44,592 --> 02:53:48,945
for senior members. It's just $5 or $10
for guests.

2916
02:53:48,945 --> 02:53:53,553
So that's, you know, at the Yacht Club.
Should be fun.

2917
02:53:53,553 --> 02:53:58,503
Um, and then, um, there's a senior
barbecue, um, which is—

2918
02:53:58,503 --> 02:53:58,599
Right.

2919
02:53:58,599 --> 02:54:02,355
Actually, that's August 28th next Friday.

2920
02:54:02,355 --> 02:54:07,852
So, um, that— I'm trying to see where that
is, but probably,

2921
02:54:07,852 --> 02:54:11,700
probably at Senosqua. Yeah, DPW's cooking.

2922
02:54:11,700 --> 02:54:14,253
It's— I would assume it's Senosqua. Yes.

2923
02:54:14,253 --> 02:54:20,234
Oh yeah, so that's this Friday for anyone
that wants to go. Should be fun time.

2924
02:54:20,234 --> 02:54:25,760
Um, and I know that, uh, Deputy Mayor
Simon will update on some exciting—

2925
02:54:25,760 --> 02:54:28,258
your exciting FPD DR trip, right?

2926
02:54:28,258 --> 02:54:29,086
Coming up.

2927
02:54:29,086 --> 02:54:36,079
The seniors. Okay. Yeah. Um, so, all
right. So that's— yeah, that's it. Thank

2928
02:54:36,079 --> 02:54:36,442
right. So that's— yeah, that's it. Thank
you.

2929
02:54:36,442 --> 02:54:42,800
Oh, sorry. The, uh, my notes are getting
smaller and smaller, my font.

2930
02:54:42,800 --> 02:54:49,611
Um, I do want to acknowledge all the
letters that we received on the pigeon

2931
02:54:49,611 --> 02:54:50,156
letters that we received on the pigeon
topic.

2932
02:54:50,156 --> 02:54:53,062
Um, on kind of both, both sides.

2933
02:54:53,062 --> 02:54:58,966
You know, and I was very moved by the
speakers tonight, you know,

2934
02:54:58,966 --> 02:55:05,414
including Tony and Nora and, you know,
everyone who spoke on the topic.

2935
02:55:05,414 --> 02:55:08,320
So I think like Trustee Slippen,

2936
02:55:08,320 --> 02:55:15,767
I look forward to the public hearing and
to further discussion around this to make

2937
02:55:15,767 --> 02:55:23,033
sure that you know, we all do the right
thing and, and just feel good about, um,

2938
02:55:23,033 --> 02:55:27,846
any changes that we propose to the law. So
thank you.

2939
02:55:27,846 --> 02:55:30,699
Thank you. Um, so I will keep it brief.

2940
02:55:30,699 --> 02:55:35,455
I just want to thank the DPW and
Recreation Department, um, this—

2941
02:55:35,455 --> 02:55:37,650
for the summer concert series.

2942
02:55:37,650 --> 02:55:42,478
It ended, um, really successfully the
other evening, Friday night.

2943
02:55:42,478 --> 02:55:48,624
It was It was a beautiful night and it was
so nice to see a couple that actually got

2944
02:55:48,624 --> 02:55:50,453
married down at Senosqua.

2945
02:55:50,453 --> 02:55:51,608
Oh my God.

2946
02:55:51,608 --> 02:55:56,919
And the bride and groom did their dance
and Valerie and I were like, what?

2947
02:55:56,919 --> 02:56:01,441
Yeah, so amazing. Just so special to
everyone in the community.

2948
02:56:01,441 --> 02:56:03,020
It was so nice to see.

2949
02:56:03,020 --> 02:56:05,102
And the DPW has been working,

2950
02:56:05,102 --> 02:56:11,131
the DPW has been working so hard on all of
the various road projects in the Village.

2951
02:56:11,131 --> 02:56:16,514
I noticed that the sidewalks, um, on Old
Post Road are being taken care of,

2952
02:56:16,514 --> 02:56:18,165
which is very exciting.

2953
02:56:18,165 --> 02:56:19,930
It's been a pet project of mine.

2954
02:56:19,930 --> 02:56:24,384
So that is happening as we speak, uh,
which is really exciting.

2955
02:56:24,384 --> 02:56:29,898
And then kind of all of the new painting
and roadwork and Cleveland Drive, um,

2956
02:56:29,898 --> 02:56:32,655
are just beautiful. So that is amazing.

2957
02:56:32,655 --> 02:56:37,958
And then the recreation department has
been working, um, on successful camp

2958
02:56:37,958 --> 02:56:38,382
been working, um, on successful camp
years.

2959
02:56:38,382 --> 02:56:40,573
A challenging Silver Lake year.

2960
02:56:40,573 --> 02:56:44,886
But, you know, really putting in a lot of
great effort there.

2961
02:56:44,886 --> 02:56:48,209
Maria alluded to the meeting that we had
today,

2962
02:56:48,209 --> 02:56:53,935
which was with the landscape architect
that the board had contracted with to do a

2963
02:56:53,935 --> 02:56:56,975
master plan of the grounds of Gouveia
Park.

2964
02:56:56,975 --> 02:57:02,843
So it was amazing to see someone that has
had history with the village and has done

2965
02:57:02,843 --> 02:57:07,085
various village projects in the past, was
a former resident,

2966
02:57:07,085 --> 02:57:12,245
sort of see what his vision was of the, of
the park and what it could be.

2967
02:57:12,245 --> 02:57:17,124
So, you know, it continues to move
forward, which is really exciting.

2968
02:57:17,124 --> 02:57:23,062
As Maria said, Friends of Croton Parks is
now a nonprofit separate from the village.

2969
02:57:23,062 --> 02:57:26,668
So if residents are interested in
supporting parks,

2970
02:57:26,668 --> 02:57:30,273
they are going to plan some upcoming
opportunities.

2971
02:57:30,273 --> 02:57:36,141
Where they'll be doing a workday at Gwabea
Park where they'll be doing some weeding

2972
02:57:36,141 --> 02:57:41,019
and some, you know, beautification. So
that's really exciting to see.

2973
02:57:41,019 --> 02:57:44,271
And with that, I will pass it to my
colleague.

2974
02:57:44,271 --> 02:57:46,153
Well, thank you very much.

2975
02:57:46,153 --> 02:57:49,484
And I think, like we've all said, it's
been a—

2976
02:57:49,484 --> 02:57:53,466
it's been a month or so since we've sat in
these seats.

2977
02:57:53,466 --> 02:57:56,072
So just a few things to catch up on.

2978
02:57:56,072 --> 02:58:00,055
On July 16th, our Bicycle and Pedestrian
Committee met.

2979
02:58:00,055 --> 02:58:02,154
Mayor was there and So was I.

2980
02:58:02,154 --> 02:58:08,019
And we got an update from the team there
on next steps on the redo of the bicycle

2981
02:58:08,019 --> 02:58:12,580
pedestrian master plan. So looking forward
to progress on that.

2982
02:58:12,580 --> 02:58:18,155
We received a lot of plaudits from
everyone on the Cleveland Avenue repaving.

2983
02:58:18,155 --> 02:58:21,196
Everyone was just very pleased about that.

2984
02:58:21,196 --> 02:58:24,309
So we were— it was quite good to hear
that.

2985
02:58:24,309 --> 02:58:29,812
And we talked a little bit about Some of
the funding that we're seeking from

2986
02:58:29,812 --> 02:58:30,318
the funding that we're seeking from
Project

2987
02:58:30,318 --> 02:58:34,662
Mover, that's set-aside funding for
infrastructure projects,

2988
02:58:34,662 --> 02:58:39,948
and we'll be submitting some paperwork to
them on funding for bike lanes,

2989
02:58:39,948 --> 02:58:42,989
additional RRFBs, bike racks, and signage.

2990
02:58:42,989 --> 02:58:46,681
So we'll have more to report on that in
the future.

2991
02:58:46,681 --> 02:58:52,256
Unfortunately, on July 18th, we had to
cancel our bike skills training class,

2992
02:58:52,256 --> 02:58:54,863
which was 50% indoors, 50% outdoors.

2993
02:58:54,863 --> 02:59:00,582
'Cause that, that was the, the height of
the Canadian forest fire bad air days.

2994
02:59:00,582 --> 02:59:06,085
And so it was, it was canceled for that.
And I think it was raining as well.

2995
02:59:06,085 --> 02:59:10,212
So we're working with, with the recreation
department to,

2996
02:59:10,212 --> 02:59:16,004
to reschedule it for sometime in the fall.
So I'll let everyone know about that.

2997
02:59:16,004 --> 02:59:21,796
On July 24th, I sat in on the quarterly
Zoom that Congressman Lawler has for For

2998
02:59:21,796 --> 02:59:24,692
local elected officials in the district,

2999
02:59:24,692 --> 02:59:29,977
and he gave us a quick briefing on the
housing bill, the Road to Housing,

3000
02:59:29,977 --> 02:59:33,235
which we've talked about briefly here
before,

3001
02:59:33,235 --> 02:59:37,797
some work he's doing on surface
transportation reauthorization,

3002
02:59:37,797 --> 02:59:43,516
and how he's pushing back against some of
the proposed amendments to the grants

3003
02:59:43,516 --> 02:59:49,381
process, which would tend to politicize
it. So it was always, always good to get.

3004
02:59:49,381 --> 02:59:51,481
information from that office.

3005
02:59:51,481 --> 02:59:57,345
On July 25th, just congratulations to the
Recreation Department for the community

3006
02:59:57,345 --> 03:00:02,630
paddle. It was terrific. My wife Linda and
I were pleased to participate.

3007
03:00:02,630 --> 03:00:07,119
The mayor was there as well. I thought it
was a great success.

3008
03:00:07,119 --> 03:00:11,753
I think there were about 40 or so folks
there, mostly in kayaks,

3009
03:00:11,753 --> 03:00:13,273
a few rowboats there.

3010
03:00:13,273 --> 03:00:19,066
And of course, Mark Cheshire did a great
job in trying to Put the whole thing in

3011
03:00:19,066 --> 03:00:22,903
perspective with a little talk on one of
the islands.

3012
03:00:22,903 --> 03:00:25,364
And so I want to thank Recreation.

3013
03:00:25,364 --> 03:00:30,143
Also want to thank the 125th Committee
chaired by Carolyn Whiting,

3014
03:00:30,143 --> 03:00:36,008
which actually came up with the original
idea to do the community paddle in 2023.

3015
03:00:36,008 --> 03:00:39,483
And it's continued every year, every year
since.

3016
03:00:39,483 --> 03:00:44,478
So, and I think it's going to be— continue
to be a great institution.

3017
03:00:44,478 --> 03:00:49,619
On 425 South Riverside, as Trustee
Nachtaler said Croton should be very

3018
03:00:49,619 --> 03:00:50,053
Nachtaler said Croton should be very
proud,

3019
03:00:50,053 --> 03:00:55,628
I think, of the planning board's care and
deliberate work that they're doing.

3020
03:00:55,628 --> 03:01:00,696
Our engineer, our planning staff, and our
village attorney are really,

3021
03:01:00,696 --> 03:01:06,271
really doing a fantastic job in making
sure that we're going step by step and

3022
03:01:06,271 --> 03:01:10,253
holding the proposed developer to a very
high standard.

3023
03:01:10,253 --> 03:01:15,104
And the absence of any subsequent meetings
Since the 28th, I think,

3024
03:01:15,104 --> 03:01:17,711
is a good indication that's working.

3025
03:01:17,711 --> 03:01:22,996
On July 29th, I think all of us were
participating in the Lions barbecue.

3026
03:01:22,996 --> 03:01:27,413
I was grateful for the invitation and to
participate in that,

3027
03:01:27,413 --> 03:01:31,757
and it's amazing how much good work the
Lions do for Croton.

3028
03:01:31,757 --> 03:01:34,725
They should really be applauded for that.

3029
03:01:34,725 --> 03:01:40,590
On July 30th, I had the great honor to
appear with Senator Pete Harkam To receive

3030
03:01:40,590 --> 03:01:43,486
$100,000 in CREST funds for the village,

3031
03:01:43,486 --> 03:01:49,350
which we will hope to use for the Harmon
Firehouse new roof with additional other

3032
03:01:49,350 --> 03:01:54,925
funds. And assuming that we go forward
with that, it'll be a couple of years,

3033
03:01:54,925 --> 03:01:59,125
I think, before the funds actually float
into our account.

3034
03:01:59,125 --> 03:02:02,093
But once, once we get the roof work done,

3035
03:02:02,093 --> 03:02:07,233
There's the potential for putting solar
panels on the Harmon Firehouse,

3036
03:02:07,233 --> 03:02:10,926
just like we have on the Washington Engine
Company.

3037
03:02:10,926 --> 03:02:15,415
We looked at this before through the
Sustainability Committee,

3038
03:02:15,415 --> 03:02:19,180
and fact is you can't put solar tiles on a
bad roof.

3039
03:02:19,180 --> 03:02:21,714
So we've got to get that roof done.

3040
03:02:21,714 --> 03:02:25,985
And of course, Independence Day, we were
all there as well.

3041
03:02:25,985 --> 03:02:31,995
Dwayne Jackson, and Joe Serrato are great
reenactors doing that in blistering heat,

3042
03:02:31,995 --> 03:02:37,425
you know, just wearing these heavy cotton,
you know, or whatever they were,

3043
03:02:37,425 --> 03:02:39,235
burlap colonial uniforms.

3044
03:02:39,235 --> 03:02:40,828
And it was especially—

3045
03:02:40,828 --> 03:02:46,765
I'm so grateful to the village manager and
everyone for having had the idea of not

3046
03:02:46,765 --> 03:02:48,430
doing that on July 4th,

3047
03:02:48,430 --> 03:02:54,512
but doing it on August 1st when there were
less distractions like the big ships that

3048
03:02:54,512 --> 03:02:58,711
were coming into the, into the, into the
port in New York.

3049
03:02:58,711 --> 03:03:00,304
And of course, we had,

3050
03:03:00,304 --> 03:03:05,662
we had a second half of that because in
addition to the great reenactment,

3051
03:03:05,662 --> 03:03:11,309
I think was longer than I've ever, ever
experienced. They did a fantastic job.

3052
03:03:11,309 --> 03:03:17,173
But secondly, then we were able through
the Hart Committee to honor Mark Cheshire

3053
03:03:17,173 --> 03:03:22,966
and the Historical Society for all the—
Mm-hmm. All the great work that they do.

3054
03:03:22,966 --> 03:03:28,251
And second last, second to the last is
National Night Out just last week.

3055
03:03:28,251 --> 03:03:30,640
Again, I think we were all there.

3056
03:03:30,640 --> 03:03:35,853
Thanks for the police department, fire
department, EMS, everyone, drone.

3057
03:03:35,853 --> 03:03:37,780
DPW drives the drone.

3058
03:03:37,780 --> 03:03:40,214
Yeah, DPW, everyone that participated.

3059
03:03:40,214 --> 03:03:45,017
It's a great, it was a great community
event and a great, great coming out.

3060
03:03:45,017 --> 03:03:49,436
And of course, thanks also to the golf
course for the wonderful food.

3061
03:03:49,436 --> 03:03:50,781
So it was just great.

3062
03:03:50,781 --> 03:03:55,456
And as long— just wrapping up, as long as
Trustee Nachtaler mentioned it,

3063
03:03:55,456 --> 03:03:58,402
we are taking all of the seniors that want
to.

3064
03:03:58,402 --> 03:04:02,116
It's at least 30, so last time I checked
the registration.

3065
03:04:02,116 --> 03:04:03,909
We're taking them up to FDR.

3066
03:04:03,909 --> 03:04:07,560
I'll be giving them a tour of the library
and the museum,

3067
03:04:07,560 --> 03:04:09,737
and we're very excited about that.

3068
03:04:09,737 --> 03:04:14,412
And for those of you that aren't going on
that trip but would like to Uh,

3069
03:04:14,412 --> 03:04:18,703
like to make a special trip, uh, up there
between now and December.

3070
03:04:18,703 --> 03:04:22,866
Um, long story short, you know, until
about, uh, 1812 or '13, uh,

3071
03:04:22,866 --> 03:04:27,797
there were no copies of the Constitution—
of the Declaration of Independence.

3072
03:04:27,797 --> 03:04:30,423
Uh, you know, there were, uh, there were,

3073
03:04:30,423 --> 03:04:33,625
there were newspapers that had repeated
the words,

3074
03:04:33,625 --> 03:04:36,891
but there were no copies like we're used
to seeing.

3075
03:04:36,891 --> 03:04:40,157
So the, uh, the federal government at the
time was—

3076
03:04:40,157 --> 03:04:40,205
Uh-huh.

3077
03:04:40,687 --> 03:04:46,607
Um, had the idea of commissioning a, um,
a, a steel plate that, uh, that had, um,

3078
03:04:46,607 --> 03:04:52,453
the reproduction of the words and the
signatures of the, um, of the Declaration.

3079
03:04:52,453 --> 03:04:58,592
And they were generous enough to print up
200 copies for the, for the whole country.

3080
03:04:58,592 --> 03:05:02,612
There are only 50 left of, uh, that, that
are known of,

3081
03:05:02,612 --> 03:05:05,462
and we now have one of them at, at FDR.

3082
03:05:05,462 --> 03:05:05,671
Wow.

3083
03:05:05,978 --> 03:05:10,339
on loan to us through December 26th by the
great David Rubenstein,

3084
03:05:10,339 --> 03:05:14,635
who is a great philanthropist and owner of
the Baltimore Orioles,

3085
03:05:14,635 --> 03:05:18,335
who are now tied with the Yankees, in case
anyone knows.

3086
03:05:18,335 --> 03:05:22,036
So, if you're interested in coming up,
just let me know,

3087
03:05:22,036 --> 03:05:27,322
but we're very much looking forward to the
seniors being there on February 10th.

3088
03:05:27,322 --> 03:05:32,572
All right, thank you all for your
comprehensive review of the intervening

3089
03:05:32,572 --> 03:05:33,003
comprehensive review of the intervening
weeks.

3090
03:05:33,003 --> 03:05:37,318
And thank you to everyone that spoke, uh,
tonight's meeting.

3091
03:05:37,318 --> 03:05:39,691
Um, I want to, uh, thank the, uh,

3092
03:05:39,691 --> 03:05:45,300
Trail Subcommittee of the Conservation
Advisory Council for a great cleanup on

3093
03:05:45,300 --> 03:05:49,615
August 8th. And I also— there will be a
meeting before this,

3094
03:05:49,615 --> 03:05:52,563
but I want to give people maximum notice—

3095
03:05:52,563 --> 03:05:57,165
a village town hall on a potential New
York Forward application.

3096
03:05:57,165 --> 03:06:02,487
New York Forward Being the younger sibling
to the Empire State Development

3097
03:06:02,487 --> 03:06:06,011
Corporation's Downtown Revitalization
Initiative.

3098
03:06:06,011 --> 03:06:11,907
This would be potential state funding for
economic development and the creation of

3099
03:06:11,907 --> 03:06:14,280
various amenities in the village,

3100
03:06:14,280 --> 03:06:18,739
something that we are eligible for as a
pro-housing community.

3101
03:06:18,739 --> 03:06:23,054
A new round has not been announced yet for
New York Forward,

3102
03:06:23,054 --> 03:06:25,139
but it has been budgeted for.

3103
03:06:25,139 --> 03:06:27,944
So in order to prepare our application,

3104
03:06:27,944 --> 03:06:31,755
we want to get public input sooner rather
than later.

3105
03:06:31,755 --> 03:06:37,292
And our planner/grant writer will be
explaining some of the thinking in terms

3106
03:06:37,292 --> 03:06:37,724
explaining some of the thinking in terms
of the

3107
03:06:37,724 --> 03:06:40,456
overall strategy for this application,

3108
03:06:40,456 --> 03:06:45,922
and we will also be hearing from Mayor
Marjorie Hsu of the Village of Sleepy

3109
03:06:45,922 --> 03:06:46,425
Marjorie Hsu of the Village of Sleepy
Hollow,

3110
03:06:46,425 --> 03:06:49,589
which is a previous New York Forward
winner.

3111
03:06:49,589 --> 03:06:51,243
Who will be describing,

3112
03:06:51,243 --> 03:06:57,212
summarizing some of the projects that New
York Forward has allowed Sleepy Hollow to

3113
03:06:57,212 --> 03:07:01,886
pursue. So that will be taking place on—
did I say September 3rd?

3114
03:07:01,950 --> 03:07:03,701
Because I'm not sure that's right.

3115
03:07:03,701 --> 03:07:04,006
It is.

3116
03:07:04,006 --> 03:07:06,334
It is the Thursday. All right, so very
good.

3117
03:07:06,334 --> 03:07:06,912
In this very room.

3118
03:07:06,912 --> 03:07:08,354
Yep, in this very room.

3119
03:07:08,354 --> 03:07:12,869
So more information will be coming out
shortly, but it is on our village

3120
03:07:12,869 --> 03:07:13,433
shortly, but it is on our village
calendar,

3121
03:07:13,433 --> 03:07:18,637
and I hope we have robust participation.
Manager, do you have anything else to add?

3122
03:07:18,637 --> 03:07:20,843
Um, I don't. Did you have any
appointments?

3123
03:07:20,843 --> 03:07:24,228
Uh, not at this time.

3124
03:07:24,228 --> 03:07:25,274
The VEB.

3125
03:07:25,274 --> 03:07:28,189
Oh wait, sorry, uh, uh, Jen Johnson, uh,

3126
03:07:28,189 --> 03:07:31,178
Jen Johnson rather, uh, for, uh, the VEB.

3127
03:07:31,178 --> 03:07:33,437
Yes, do I have a motion on Jen?

3128
03:07:33,437 --> 03:07:34,178
So moved.

3129
03:07:34,178 --> 03:07:35,273
Second.

3130
03:07:35,273 --> 03:07:38,800
Uh, motion by Trustee Slippen, second by
Trustee Simon. All in favor?

3131
03:07:38,800 --> 03:07:39,750
Aye.

3132
03:07:39,750 --> 03:07:40,426
Thank you.

3133
03:07:40,426 --> 03:07:42,037
To clarify, that's for the chair.

3134
03:07:42,160 --> 03:07:43,640
Yes, as chair.

3135
03:07:43,640 --> 03:07:45,600
She was already a— she was already a
member.

3136
03:07:45,600 --> 03:07:47,990
She was already a member.

3137
03:07:50,990 --> 03:07:52,210
Yeah. Oh, do I have a motion to adjourn?

3138
03:07:52,210 --> 03:07:53,780
So moved.

3139
03:07:53,780 --> 03:07:54,340
Second.

3140
03:07:54,340 --> 03:07:58,500
Motion by Trustee Simon, second by Trustee
Nicholson. All in favor? Aye.