1 00:00:03,410 --> 00:00:08,350 All right, I'd like to call the Economic Development Authority meeting to order. 2 00:00:09,410 --> 00:00:11,890 We could add a parole call. 3 00:00:12,450 --> 00:00:14,990 Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Cummings. 4 00:00:15,530 --> 00:00:19,470 Yeah, Mr. Ibo, Mr. Commissioner, Commissioner, Commissioner Kaiser. 5 00:00:19,730 --> 00:00:19,950 Yeah. 6 00:00:20,370 --> 00:00:22,930 Mr. Mayor, Mr. Wilson, Commissioner Adams. 7 00:00:23,410 --> 00:00:24,430 Yes, Mr. Booshowski. 8 00:00:24,730 --> 00:00:25,530 Here, we have a call. 9 00:00:26,430 --> 00:00:27,070 Thank you. 10 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:30,070 I'll start with the approval of the amendments. 11 00:00:30,250 --> 00:00:32,490 You have those for you. 12 00:00:32,510 --> 00:00:33,570 Are there any questions? 13 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:36,770 Otherwise I'd be looking for a motion to approve those. 14 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:37,670 Trees. 15 00:00:37,890 --> 00:00:39,470 I'll make a motion to approve the minutes. 16 00:00:40,770 --> 00:00:41,150 Thank you. 17 00:00:41,310 --> 00:00:41,770 I have a second. 18 00:00:42,130 --> 00:00:43,370 I'll second that. 19 00:00:43,450 --> 00:00:43,870 All right. 20 00:00:44,250 --> 00:00:45,310 All those in favor. 21 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:46,270 Please say aye. 22 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:47,410 Opposed. 23 00:00:49,210 --> 00:00:49,770 Motion. 24 00:00:51,050 --> 00:00:51,330 Assence. 25 00:00:54,450 --> 00:00:54,590 Okay. 26 00:00:54,730 --> 00:00:58,090 Now we'll talk about selecting artwork for traffic signal 27 00:00:58,090 --> 00:01:05,910 cabinet rafts. John. Right. Thanks again. So I think you have these on 11 by 17. I know you haven't 28 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:13,010 published this video packet. So I, there are different ways we can approach this. One of the 29 00:01:13,010 --> 00:01:18,730 things in your packet is a one page that has thumbnails of all 14. So you can kind of have a glance 30 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:25,770 see all of them and then 11 by 17's to give you more detail. So I guess my question for all of you 31 00:01:25,770 --> 00:01:31,710 do want me to run through all 14 of these on the screen like this or for the benefit of the 32 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:37,570 public or do you all feel or discussion or do you all feel like you're ready to just proceed 33 00:01:37,570 --> 00:01:40,270 to the motion sheet with the sun dance. 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,740 I was just, I was just curious if someone had the same 35 00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:50,860 artist or maybe there was like input from artists about what they did with it with them. That would 36 00:01:50,860 --> 00:01:55,500 that would just be my, my curiosity on Alan. If you have specific questions about specific artwork, 37 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:58,220 I can provide whatever background artists may 38 00:01:58,220 --> 00:02:00,280 if they did share any with us. 39 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:02,280 We deliberately did not include artists 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,840 personal information at this stage because we wanted 41 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:09,380 we understood the idea wanted to judge it 42 00:02:09,380 --> 00:02:10,860 just based on the merits of the artwork. 43 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:14,940 So, but we could certainly discuss whatever 44 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:16,860 inspiration they might have discussed 45 00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:19,700 with us as far as why they did what they did. 46 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:23,580 So perhaps I should go through each of one of them put them on the screen. 47 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:26,080 Yeah, let's do that. 48 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:27,440 Okay, we can make a brief. 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:42,500 John, I want you to go from like we had nothing to like all of a sudden, you're 14, I think it's fantastic, so I mean great job with, you know, getting submissions, you know, for this project, so, you know, thank you very much, John. 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:52,820 Oh, well, thank you for it. It's great to hear it. And I was frankly amazed at how this, you know, to the extent anything from a city government goes viral on Facebook. 51 00:02:52,820 --> 00:02:59,720 this one did, which is very rare for us. It's a very well shared post. I think I put the data in the 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:06,040 language staff. So yeah, it was, and we got, I mean, we were fearful that we wouldn't have any 53 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:12,900 submissions, right? Yeah. And we got more than we needed. So that's good. trees. We're picking 10 tonight. 54 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:20,580 Well, yeah. So we have 10 cabinets. So that means you could select up to 10. You could also select the 55 00:03:20,580 --> 00:03:28,080 or number, and then we are asking it to give the executive director discretion to select which 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,960 one of those would be used more than once to fill up the 10-cata. 57 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:39,980 Oh, each class composes with choosing more than one designer, it'll be a wash. 58 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:45,820 If each one is there are cost savings, it's the same cost. 59 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:50,500 Okay. Yeah, because these are all of these are each rapidly fabricated 60 00:03:50,580 --> 00:04:00,080 based on an image, it's the $2,100 per route if we use the same image for all 10 or 10 different images on each one. 61 00:04:00,180 --> 00:04:05,080 I'll just, I was really inspired when I looked at the packet, I think they picked out one of the names. 62 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:13,700 I don't think you, the one thing I also just want to say as part of the process that Steph had discussed is, 63 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:35,580 I'm sure there's other artwork out there, some other artists, you do have more caps, so as we've gone as we're going through this process for coming down this, for taking notes as what we want to do, how often do things, but it turns out we were very, very pleased with it, but just keep that in mind as well. 64 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:40,900 I would suggest is that we have 14 submissions here. 65 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:43,460 You don't, if depending on how the council wants to do that, 66 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,200 we don't have to use all of them now. 67 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,120 We'll have them for the next time. 68 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:49,820 Because that was something that we were going to propose is, again, 69 00:04:50,020 --> 00:04:52,260 next year, we can do another, as I said, 70 00:04:52,340 --> 00:04:56,100 we have other cabinets to do so, but we will be soliciting 71 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:58,700 additional artwork through that process as well. 72 00:04:58,700 --> 00:04:59,260 I'll see you next time. 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,620 Next, the next round. 74 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:03,520 Sean, note that. 75 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,740 John, can you give us an overview? 76 00:05:07,780 --> 00:05:08,740 I'm sorry to say it. 77 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Yeah, can you give us an overview of that? 78 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:13,940 Yep. So, I don't know, we kind of call this waves. 79 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,780 I'm not sure. 80 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:22,120 But I think it's, it's just, I mean, something very bold and bright, 81 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,180 which is not at the point. 82 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Is it what we've sent for? 83 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Did you give titles to all of them? 84 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:27,080 Yeah, I'm doing mine. 85 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,680 I'm doing it for letting you know. 86 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:31,660 Yeah, some of them are more obvious than others. 87 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:34,500 Yeah, so we kind of call this waves. 88 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:38,740 We, okay, we have to scroll. 89 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,920 So this one, I think we'd call the crystal ball. 90 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:45,440 I think that's what that's about. 91 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:49,420 I just have to say, it comes up all the time, 92 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:51,300 but ever happened in two crystal balls 93 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:53,580 at a part of the historical setting. 94 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:56,000 So I think that it will one time hanging 95 00:05:57,940 --> 00:05:58,940 downtown crystal. 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,140 So I personally, this one was my favorite 97 00:06:02,140 --> 00:06:04,980 and for everybody wanting to know which one I like the best, but 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,820 I saw that and it comes up all the time. 99 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:11,400 What happened to the customer? 100 00:06:11,660 --> 00:06:13,380 You do know that's in Florida, right? 101 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Is it really? 102 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,980 Well, there's more of it. 103 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:19,660 It's from the bus. 104 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,620 It's from the bus. 105 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:21,020 It's from the bus. 106 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,320 We'll take you to the bus. 107 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:26,880 Do you want to, to fly possibly? 108 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,200 That's what we want in the month. 109 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:42,400 Okay, we don't know, okay, this one is Bristol flag with blueberries and 110 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:49,740 I 111 00:06:49,740 --> 00:06:55,800 Council member Camish said she couldn't be here tonight, but this was her second choice, she 112 00:06:57,940 --> 00:07:01,320 just expressed her preference. 113 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:06,440 She said she couldn't be her understood she didn't get involved but wanted us to share with you what her preferences 114 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:15,360 is what her top three work. So blueberries was her number two. Crystal flag with a raptor, I don't 115 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,880 know if it's a hawk or a falcon, but definitely a crystal flag image. 116 00:07:25,630 --> 00:07:27,290 Crystal flag airport theme. 117 00:07:29,230 --> 00:07:33,250 Oh, I forgot to mention the ones with the gray boxes. There was six of them. As you might have 118 00:07:33,250 --> 00:07:38,830 in staff, the group staff that looked at these, we all had different favorites, but there 119 00:07:38,830 --> 00:07:43,530 are the ones where we could kind of call it in census, that this was a favorite or something 120 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:49,410 that we all sort of liked. And so the waves was one of them. They had a gray box and then this 121 00:07:49,410 --> 00:07:52,630 one number five, Bristol flag with airport was another one. 122 00:07:55,180 --> 00:07:56,620 Another one with a gray box, 123 00:07:57,260 --> 00:08:04,300 recycled butterfly. The artist talked about how they actually used, this is actually a waste. I mean, 124 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:10,680 to bottle caps to create this as kind of a mosaic, and then to the photographs. 125 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Well, like that's an interesting one. 126 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,900 Yeah, that's an interesting one. 127 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,060 I think a lot of people think. 128 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Oh, what? 129 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:20,220 Well, yeah. 130 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:28,520 This is another one that the staff consensus we really like, the pollinators and flowers. 131 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,760 And this was Constable Camishes first choice. 132 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,920 This is better than the license plate for the pollinator. 133 00:08:41,410 --> 00:08:42,370 This one. 134 00:08:45,010 --> 00:08:49,670 I guess I don't know what the theme is of the artwork. 135 00:08:52,390 --> 00:09:01,590 I will say that one of the things we asked people to talk about or to think about when they created their art was to celebrate the diversity of our community because the whole world is in crystal. 136 00:09:01,590 --> 00:09:05,790 is one of the things we like to say. So I think this piece does that. 137 00:09:10,420 --> 00:09:11,480 And then this one is 138 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:19,480 think their carnations, not sure, flowers of some time. Let's get to see. Peanies. 139 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,100 You might be different by us. Flowers. So that's their flowers. Yeah, yeah. 140 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:25,700 Yeah, like flowers. 141 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:34,020 I don't have a name for this one. Number 10, 142 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:42,240 nor for number 11. So, so Jen, so go, can you go back to 10? 143 00:09:42,460 --> 00:09:48,080 Sure. So, there wouldn't be anything in the, in that first panel on the box. 144 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Is that correct? It would be just a wait. 145 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:52,060 Well, we, we saw a couple of options. 146 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,420 This is why we could ask for discretion as far as selecting cabinets. 147 00:09:56,020 --> 00:09:59,800 This one, if it were selected, we could place one of the cabinets where there's an adjacent. 148 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:13,500 Small cabinet, right up against the big one. I'm kind of the short panels. And that would be covered anyway, or maybe we just pick a solid color, you know, like the crystal flag, blue or something, just to have that not be a blank slate, 149 00:10:18,830 --> 00:10:18,830 sure. 150 00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:27,910 Number 12. I think this is, I don't know what I call this one, but it's kind of cute. 151 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:37,050 This is a third choice, but is there a little crystal element in there? You can see the 152 00:10:37,050 --> 00:10:42,570 crystal shopping center sign right here. The flag is in there, yeah, and there are a couple 153 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:47,690 other ones. I can't remember all of them that are in here. I mean, it's like a weird wall though, 154 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:54,330 but it's not that bad sign. And so it's lit. So you remember the staff love the construction 155 00:10:54,330 --> 00:11:03,090 cone on the bulldozer or the excavator and one cellar. Yeah, but this is one that I think there 156 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:10,310 was a wider range of opinion on it, but I will say that it's definitely unique among all of the 157 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:18,350 solutions. And again, it was counter-embark damage is third referred in choice. Number 13, this is 158 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:24,210 one that we had consensus on. This is another form motif. I think we call this jelly beans 159 00:11:24,910 --> 00:11:31,570 with flowers in front. There's something like that. Jelly beans are yours. There were actually 160 00:11:31,570 --> 00:11:35,710 more jelly beans, but we had to crop it to get it a thick, a template. So we have to cut 161 00:11:35,710 --> 00:11:40,270 out the top because the flowers are really seem to be what really pops here. The jelly beans 162 00:11:40,270 --> 00:11:40,950 are in the background. 163 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,960 And then finally the mine is a mine. So the idea here is if you're looking 164 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:55,320 at the box, it looks like the mine is trapped in the box, whichever or the four sides you're 165 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,420 looking at, there's a mind-tractive box. 166 00:11:59,020 --> 00:12:00,140 Oh, you, oh, yeah. 167 00:12:00,540 --> 00:12:03,780 And just to remind the council, if you look at the dimensions, 168 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:07,360 these are, you know, life side, yeah, six, 169 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:11,380 77 inch boxes, so it's fun. 170 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,280 The off-road and this one kind of, 171 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,380 I remember those were reminded me of that, 172 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,520 but all of these are going to be blown up, you know, 173 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,700 very large, so relatively large, 174 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:26,210 so, you know, that. 175 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,540 Thank you for that overview. 176 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:40,640 I have a solution, not a solution, but a part. 177 00:12:41,820 --> 00:12:46,060 Could we let the community vote on these? 178 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,180 That's something we talk about at a staff level about that. 179 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,620 I think, well, the problem, there are a number of issues with that, of course, 180 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:04,560 which is do people have their friends and family, you know, from all across the country vote, 181 00:13:04,580 --> 00:13:11,340 how do we vet the votes for them actually being crystal residents? Because you have those things 182 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:16,100 where you don't vote, you know, send out to all the friends across country vote for my thing 183 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:23,240 and whatever this content is. So that's, that's one we concern. The other one is time. 184 00:13:25,420 --> 00:13:30,960 the were on track to hopefully get these the goal would be to try to get these installed by my 185 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,980 frolics a lot of them are going to be up in that area of town but that's not I mean it's not a 186 00:13:37,980 --> 00:13:44,610 deadline we can install these anytime before winter really but that would certainly delay that 187 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:52,220 and I think there are some other concerns too about the city is buying these and it's going to 188 00:13:52,220 --> 00:14:01,100 these can be responsible for them and my recommendation is that the EDA should own the decision to 189 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:10,360 and not not kind of send it out to the community because it's ultimately really as your decision. 190 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:16,830 I'm about staff is thought about this. I'm still in support of having the community both 191 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:22,930 So, as an input, we would still reserve the right to choose what the final ones are. 192 00:14:23,050 --> 00:14:27,570 I think it could be fun for the community, for them to see hey, here's how we're, you know, 193 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:32,590 investing in, of course, we'll see these things, but for them to have a voice, you know, 194 00:14:32,590 --> 00:14:36,630 and if thousands of people vote from across the world, I mean, that's kind of fun. 195 00:14:36,850 --> 00:14:39,270 Maybe we'll, you know, be trending or something for a little bit. 196 00:14:40,330 --> 00:14:44,510 So anyways, I, I, I, the timing thing is probably going to worry me the most. 197 00:14:44,510 --> 00:14:50,270 I would like to get these up, I'd follow it, so I'd be curious if there was a way for us to make that timing work. 198 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:52,970 But again, that's just my opinion of one of the curious other thoughts. 199 00:14:53,290 --> 00:14:53,750 I don't know. 200 00:14:53,830 --> 00:14:59,970 One of the one that has part of that conversation was one of the things that we identified that would help facilitate that, because that was- 201 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:14,620 Something for the next round we were looking at like, yeah, how could we do that? That would be really cool to have that community engagement part of it, you know, the big part of it was the timing, just because we did that was a part of the calculus when we were getting to this point. 202 00:15:15,620 --> 00:15:29,980 But if the council were to narrow down, like, here's the finalists or, you know, couple of, you know, not have the public pick their top 10 or their top five, but if they had to pick, you know, between two or three years, 203 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:36,160 or, you know, here's the file, I mean, just somehow narrowed, you know, rain that in, 204 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,060 that discretion that being given to the wave, 205 00:15:45,380 --> 00:15:47,620 as part of the process, that was part of the 206 00:15:47,620 --> 00:15:50,440 conversation of how can we do that? 207 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,200 If there, I would say there, we could figure it out away. 208 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:04,140 I'd have to talk to Mike Peterson specifically about how best to do that in a relatively 209 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:05,960 short amount of time with the quick turnaround. 210 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:13,580 It's something we, John's not real excited about, sorry. 211 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,680 We'd have to figure out when the absolute deadline would be in how quickly we can do that. 212 00:16:21,140 --> 00:16:26,840 I think it's actually out of the office today, but we want some type of kind of guardrails 213 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:36,420 on that. It's one to help facilitate it. But we thought that having all 14 and having public vote 214 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:44,870 on those wouldn't be ideal or far from ideal or far from ideal, of course. 215 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:51,610 My question was, do we have a drop to deadline and you answered that question with your statement? 216 00:16:52,330 --> 00:16:55,610 I mean, I'm also a fan of having the community vote. 217 00:16:55,750 --> 00:16:59,130 I mean, it's not like we'd run into, you know, 218 00:16:59,290 --> 00:17:01,650 necessarily a situation like MidDot runs into with name 219 00:17:01,650 --> 00:17:03,450 and their plows or something very offensive. 220 00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:05,370 You know, it's like, these are the 14. 221 00:17:05,550 --> 00:17:07,410 And there's nothing here that's blatantly offensive 222 00:17:07,950 --> 00:17:08,870 that I can tell. 223 00:17:08,950 --> 00:17:10,390 I mean, I don't know there might be something hidden. 224 00:17:12,290 --> 00:17:14,170 But, I mean, I think it'd be a good opportunity. 225 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:17,210 And also, I mean, it can be a quick turnaround. 226 00:17:18,970 --> 00:17:31,990 I've placed as I've worked, we've done social media voting, with just, you know, reactions and those things are only live normally like for three days maybe and then your traffic just drops off, so it would be just like a couple of days maybe. 227 00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:39,130 I guess they should be calling back the EDA in time to have us make that final decision. 228 00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:53,510 Jim I'd support picking 10 tonight. I mean, there's some good choices here and I think there's a fair amount of agreement in terms of between staff and what we know who's already voiced. 229 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:58,750 There's already voiced their favorites. 230 00:17:59,890 --> 00:18:06,670 I absolutely love all of the of the flag once I think that fits kind of what we're talking about. 231 00:18:06,670 --> 00:18:14,250 I'm a flower fan. I'm not sure there's any flowers. I would eliminate. We could just go through an exo each of us exo for that we don't like and then 232 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:17,250 Tally it up and be done 233 00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:23,430 That means we have 10 people who's our work is gonna be displayed. I like the idea of that as well 234 00:18:23,790 --> 00:18:29,290 I really like the idea of people actually taking the effort and seeing it come to fruition 235 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:35,650 John Sutter why would make it add on all from majority of the board wants to 236 00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:55,470 Providing an opportunity for public input on the selection or if a majority does want to do that without having to delay this to your next meeting, which is July 16th or weeks or now, is part of your motion we could do a fast survey with a quick turnaround. 237 00:18:57,190 --> 00:19:16,130 And you could hear your motion provide staff, the executive director, final discretion as to if you select ten tonight to move forward to the public to decide which ones to use or maybe select six or something. 238 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:22,590 But you'd have to delegate that to the staff or we'd delay it by a month. 239 00:19:22,590 --> 00:19:25,390 So there is a way to do this, I think. 240 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:31,090 I think I like, so if I'm making the dots, 241 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:32,650 I think we're going to do both. 242 00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:35,610 Recommendations to do both, where we as accounts 243 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:39,430 will select 10, we're going to move forward with the 10 244 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:41,410 and move on with the process. 245 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:44,770 And then we're still like to post something for the community 246 00:19:44,770 --> 00:19:46,970 to vote, just to see like they're not necessarily 247 00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:48,350 going to decide we've already decided. 248 00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:52,370 And maybe it's not a vote, but maybe it's 249 00:19:52,370 --> 00:19:58,880 Hey, we're doing this thing. What do you take a look which one's your favorite which one's your likes. Yes, and so 250 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:29,980 Let's continue at the pace for going. We can decide on the 10, but then figure out something creative to involve the community. They can pick their favorite. And maybe, you know, the top three we decide once we have to do more, we're going to go back to those top three. You do a couple more of those designs, you know, across the city or something like that. Does that feel okay, kind of that? We're going to do both. Okay. So we need to pick 10. I'm not sure how to invest in that item. Thank you. The one thing I was going to say is if, I'm sure, I don't know if you'll be able to 251 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:36,960 rank them, but if they were like the bottom two or three that you were there were less 252 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:45,460 of your favorites, and you guys have selected them and let the public have some input, 253 00:20:45,860 --> 00:20:51,060 and if any of the ones at the council didn't pick, could replace those that the council 254 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:57,280 did pick from the bottom. Like if you had a core eight that you for sure wanted, but if 255 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,960 to that out of the other six that the console, you know, they were less your favorite, 256 00:21:02,780 --> 00:21:08,210 maybe I'm over compicating it, but, or we could just have, you know, just get feedback. 257 00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:13,470 Because I think that just that engagement is that engagement level is, you know, without promising 258 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:19,850 that whatever's more popular based on, you know, 200 people on Facebook vote for our next 259 00:21:20,330 --> 00:21:28,670 dark, at least they'd be able to, you know, provide some feedback and then we can that's part of 260 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:37,750 We can even say, this is the first round of these, we're trying to do this in the more on the future, so stay tuned in the evening. 261 00:21:39,770 --> 00:21:42,130 Well, it's very safe. 262 00:21:42,290 --> 00:21:43,490 Alright, John Booshowski. 263 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:44,670 Thank you. 264 00:21:46,830 --> 00:21:57,830 Jim mentioned maybe excluding four, what I would say is like, each one of us gets to big three and then basically kind of figure out what the most popular one is 265 00:21:57,830 --> 00:22:02,070 And then if we want to, you know, you can say like, you know, for the rest of them, 266 00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:06,930 you know, have it rounded out by either by members of the staff, you know, or something like that. 267 00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:09,910 So it's kind of been joined effort before from there. 268 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:11,090 It's an option, trees. 269 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:11,730 Sorry. 270 00:22:12,670 --> 00:22:16,590 What I was going to say, the very least was to share this with the community. 271 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:18,190 Make them. 272 00:22:18,190 --> 00:22:18,470 Yes. 273 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:19,050 Yeah. 274 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:20,910 I just think that I worked this wonderful. 275 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:21,930 Why not share it? 276 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:22,410 It's fun. 277 00:22:22,810 --> 00:22:23,050 Yes. 278 00:22:24,250 --> 00:22:24,590 Of course. 279 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:25,670 Yeah. 280 00:22:25,670 --> 00:22:30,950 So I support just like choosing 10 and then sharing and then people can vote for their favorite 281 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:34,750 I will say I did some it for this, so I'm going to recuse myself 282 00:22:36,290 --> 00:22:39,270 Wow, which one I'm not going to tell you 283 00:22:40,130 --> 00:22:41,810 Ready recuse right there 284 00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:46,510 I do really like that one. You're one of the minds aren't you? 285 00:22:46,650 --> 00:22:50,090 Jim yeah, I think you know, I think for a set of 286 00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:54,490 love the idea of bringing the community into it to kind of get the excitement going. I think 287 00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:59,850 Adam touched on it too. I think that's a great way to promote it and build that excitement. 288 00:23:02,170 --> 00:23:06,690 Yeah. I just wanted for the record. Not the artists are receiving any type of 289 00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:10,370 remaneration for their selection or submission. 290 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,840 So there's a couple different ways. 291 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:27,840 there is a suggestion that we select our most favorite, an idea that we actually select our least favorite, we select 10, we select 6, I don't know. 292 00:23:32,570 --> 00:23:33,070 Make a proposal. 293 00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:35,110 I like to do 10. 294 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:35,730 Just make it. 295 00:23:35,730 --> 00:23:39,890 Let's just go one through 10, our favorite has been one and being our least favorite. 296 00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:46,130 So we will all do that on our own and then what? 297 00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:54,130 Or I think it's actually, is there need to prioritize or rank them or can we all just select our bottom four? 298 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:54,670 Is that okay? 299 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:56,010 We can do that. 300 00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:57,090 That'd be the easiest way. 301 00:23:57,330 --> 00:23:59,330 Which award would we prefer not to see? 302 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:59,670 Right. 303 00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:00,190 Yeah. 304 00:24:00,650 --> 00:24:00,850 Okay. 305 00:24:01,650 --> 00:24:06,570 So once we also select our least favorite four, then what do we do? 306 00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:10,330 We need a motion to select the other ten. 307 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:15,490 But we have to somehow figure out which or most common this. 308 00:24:16,650 --> 00:24:18,330 Yeah, see if there's a special thing. 309 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:21,150 Okay, so we'll tell you. 310 00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:22,210 You'll have a discussion. 311 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:23,990 Great. 312 00:24:24,190 --> 00:24:25,330 What's going on? 313 00:24:26,970 --> 00:24:27,810 And we've done that. 314 00:24:27,970 --> 00:24:28,610 We're doing that. 315 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:29,090 You're so. 316 00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:30,170 Yep. 317 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:31,110 Okay. 318 00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:32,770 So I think we are all individually. 319 00:24:33,310 --> 00:24:34,530 This is really great class for me. 320 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:38,670 We're all individually to rank our bottom four. 321 00:24:38,670 --> 00:24:46,670 So the four that you would least prefer to see on a box, and then we're going to go through each of them one by one 322 00:24:47,210 --> 00:24:52,810 and tell you how many, you know, dislikes or non-preferred votes each of them has. 323 00:24:53,170 --> 00:24:58,810 We'll see what the top four voters are, and that should narrow down our list of 10. 324 00:24:59,390 --> 00:24:59,970 So we'll give them a few minutes. 325 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,380 minutes for folks to identify their bottom four, so we're going to do that for a week. 326 00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:07,680 No, I got a, oh, you're nervous. 327 00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:09,980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't have any other questions. 328 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,840 You didn't have any other questions? 329 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,100 You're all doing what you like. 330 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:16,180 As you each go and call out your four, I'll put it to action. 331 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:16,900 You'll be like, okay. 332 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,580 This one is five strikes against it then. 333 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Okay. 334 00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:21,620 Okay. 335 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:30,040 The northern part of the city is ready. 336 00:25:31,460 --> 00:25:33,940 Oh, we got the third of the less people. 337 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,560 It's like, I always put in pressure on this and then burn out. 338 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:47,660 It's like me, it took a sculpture class and a couple of art classes. 339 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,880 And I feel like we're in this sculpture. 340 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,680 Yeah, it's like the inside and four critiques. 341 00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:56,240 You've got to go with the green room or something like that? 342 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:56,920 Yeah, yeah. 343 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Beateness. 344 00:25:58,580 --> 00:25:59,100 Oh, sorry. 345 00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:01,160 Anyone need more time? 346 00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:08,400 Okay everyone's here. Okay we're going to do it. I'm just going to start with me John. 347 00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:10,620 Well that's up to you. 348 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:18,260 Okay so I'm just going to tell you the numbers where I voted. 349 00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:23,540 Any numbers that you like the least? Correct. Yes. Very good. 350 00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:27,940 9, 11, 8 and 10. 351 00:26:32,790 --> 00:26:38,250 I'm going to say five, seven, 11, and 13. 352 00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:45,110 That hurts those are what I'm saying. 353 00:26:45,390 --> 00:26:45,770 You didn't do that. 354 00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:49,630 Was this Adam? 355 00:26:49,790 --> 00:26:50,250 Are you voting? 356 00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:50,930 No. 357 00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:51,490 You shouldn't. 358 00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:51,910 Okay. 359 00:26:53,670 --> 00:26:59,570 Jim, I will go six, eight, ten, and 11. 360 00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:04,440 David? 361 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,980 Six, eight, nine, and 13. 362 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,300 14, 11, 10, and 5. 363 00:27:18,790 --> 00:27:19,330 Forced. 364 00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:20,230 I'm not. 365 00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:21,150 You're not voting. 366 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:21,890 I'm not voting. 367 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:22,510 I'm in there. 368 00:27:22,550 --> 00:27:23,250 Yeah, you're in there. 369 00:27:23,570 --> 00:27:23,770 Is that fair? 370 00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:25,850 This is quite the end. 371 00:27:26,050 --> 00:27:28,890 Do we have any, or the, where are the numbers? 372 00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:29,630 John? 373 00:27:29,910 --> 00:27:32,810 So we have one of them. 374 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:35,830 Number 11 had four strikes. 375 00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:41,470 Numbers eight and ten had three strikes. 376 00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:44,190 And then numbers five, six and 13. 377 00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:50,670 excuse me, five, six, nine, and 13 had two strikes. So there's a four-way tie. 378 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:54,670 Okay, five, six, nine, and 13. 379 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:58,770 So there were two that were three, that was the census status. 380 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:06,750 Jim, I propose we make Adam and John both, that were to represent staff. 381 00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:12,110 Are you going to revote? Yes, we can do that, or we can revote on the four, that was four, 382 00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:14,830 But Mr. President, that's exactly what I'd suggest. 383 00:28:15,130 --> 00:28:18,470 Is each of you, of those four, you have to pick the worst one. 384 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:19,590 Okay, in your opinion. 385 00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:22,190 We're sorry, the one you like the least. 386 00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:25,190 Like the length of five, six, nine, thirteen. 387 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:26,710 Five, six, nine, and thirteen. 388 00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:32,390 Yes. So everyone, look at five, six, nine, and thirteen. 389 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:33,790 Pick your least. 390 00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:39,070 Identify your least favorite of five, six, nine, and thirteen. 391 00:28:39,670 --> 00:28:42,030 and then we'll go through once more. 392 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:51,370 I'll start, be 393 00:28:56,590 --> 00:28:56,850 sure. 394 00:28:57,610 --> 00:28:57,610 Um, 395 00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:02,970 okay. 396 00:29:03,530 --> 00:29:05,170 Nine was a Guinness camp. 397 00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:06,350 Trees. 398 00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:07,410 Five. 399 00:29:08,970 --> 00:29:09,190 Jim. 400 00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:10,810 Six. 401 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:11,730 David. 402 00:29:12,090 --> 00:29:12,430 Nine. 403 00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:13,450 John. 404 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:14,630 Five. 405 00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:19,980 Now we have a two-way tie. 406 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,920 Five and nine. 407 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:23,400 We can flip a coin now. 408 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:24,380 Yeah, there you go. 409 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,180 We have an airport. 410 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,740 Yeah, five is like one of my favorites. 411 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:42,500 So if this person, I'd suggest to give the same thing again, the same exercise, but you decide each of you decides which of five or nine you like the least. 412 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:49,060 Yes, we'll still, yeah, same verbage of which one do you like the least between five and nine? 413 00:29:49,060 --> 00:29:50,040 I love you, smell. 414 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,120 I'll start 9. 415 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,220 5. 416 00:29:57,620 --> 00:29:57,760 9. 417 00:29:58,420 --> 00:29:59,140 5. 418 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:21,520 I already do the number, even before you started. Five thousand. Was that three for five? No, three for nine. Yes. Okay, very good. So, the selectees are, well, now you'll need a motion, one through seven and 12 through 14. 419 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:37,270 So, yes, I am looking for a motion for someone to approve. 420 00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:44,570 Those numbers, one through seven, there are work designs, one through seven and 12 to 14. 421 00:30:46,550 --> 00:30:58,190 Jim, I'd like to make a motion and we approve all the designs from number to one through six, as well as 12 through 14, as approved designs, several. 422 00:30:58,630 --> 00:31:04,770 Yes, including seven, or approved designs for our work to be put on the boxes. 423 00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:06,230 We have a second. 424 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:11,250 John, I second my motion. Great. All those in favor please say aye. All right. 425 00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:12,050 Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. 426 00:31:12,050 --> 00:31:14,570 We'll see. And we have one abstention. 427 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:19,690 We don't need a roll call for that, right? No, I don't think so. 428 00:31:20,010 --> 00:31:30,950 Good. Great. So I think so. We voted on that, which is great. There's also consensus that we have some kind of community engagement. 429 00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:41,670 And I think there's an ask that that residents can like vote on something, what's their favorite, like that interaction versus just showing them what we're doing Jim. 430 00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:49,590 And I think when we get feedback from the public, it can kind of help staff figure out where they're going to put those, all those ones that are most favored in a more prevalent place. 431 00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:54,890 John, I'm concerned that there isn't one in war three. 432 00:31:54,890 --> 00:32:04,350 So next year, next year, so if we went into this not knowing how this was going to turn out, how successful this would be, 433 00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:12,850 if the community responses very positively, there are four that are more in residential areas as one is at 47th and Douglas for example. 434 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:16,410 And next year, we could look at doing those fours, are these fours? 435 00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:18,930 Yeah, fours, did you have a comment? 436 00:32:20,050 --> 00:32:26,170 I was just wondering if there was any desire, you could maybe reach out to the artists that 437 00:32:26,170 --> 00:32:31,030 got in and say, did you have a specific location when you were doing it too? 438 00:32:31,290 --> 00:32:35,950 We will be having one-on-one conversations with each artist because as we look at locations 439 00:32:35,950 --> 00:32:40,110 there are going to be some of them where the cabinet is more obscured by those adjacent cabinets 440 00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:44,490 and we're going to have to, it'll be like a one-on-one kind of conversation. 441 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:48,550 Should we start there now and ask for a square here? 442 00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:50,690 No. 443 00:32:50,690 --> 00:32:51,010 So you're 444 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,700 going to tell us at the end which one of yours? 445 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,580 No. 446 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,060 No. 447 00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,780 You'll have to go find out when this is possible. 448 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,960 I wish I would. 449 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,440 Well, that was that was fun. 450 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:09,940 It was comments. 451 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,960 Thanks John on your leadership on that. 452 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,640 It's really fun. 453 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,660 Thank you for our community. 454 00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:17,680 Um, so we look forward to seeing those go up. 455 00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:18,560 Uh, wasn't it? 456 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,480 Can I request a brief recess? 457 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,360 Yes, certainly. 458 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:21,920 A little quick. 459 00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:22,940 A quick recording stop. 460 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,380 Yes. 461 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:14,740 Recording in progress. 462 00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:23,560 I'll move on to number 5. So we'll consider a resolution of proving a demolition contract for 6110, Lakeland Avenue, North, John. 463 00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:30,360 Thank you, Mr. President. I have good news on this. The lower we had two quotes. We requested three, got two. 464 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,540 And the lower one is low enough that there's no EDA action required. 465 00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:42,320 at $14,000 to $100. It's well below the threshold requiring your action. So staff can approve 466 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,180 that agreement. We're very happy to the price. Kevin excavating is a local contractor who, 467 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:51,980 in fact, is doing the demolition at the pool. They said they're very familiar with working with 468 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:57,980 the city, very confident in having the information they need to make a good bid and are proposal. 469 00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:03,020 And so with that there's no action required by you and we're going to proceed with going with 470 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:06,240 have it for the demolition of 61-10 Lakeland. 471 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,900 Thank you for that update. Any questions on that? 472 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,120 Great. 473 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:18,540 Lastly, property status update. What do you have for us, John? 474 00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:25,500 So a lot of this you've heard before, but new horizon is continuing with their complete 475 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:32,000 renovation of the property at 7,000 57th Avenue North. Wells Fargo has for the last 476 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,400 Month or so, Ben, more intentionally marketing, 477 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:39,740 they're vacant building at 7,000, 478 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:42,240 56th Avenue North, on Mass Lake Road. 479 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,160 They are fully moved in to their new space 480 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,960 in the North and North East corner of Mass Lake Road 481 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,420 in Broadway next to the Chocolat. 482 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:52,380 Not right next to the Chocolat. 483 00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:54,520 Between their location and the Chocolat 484 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,660 and Exfinity Store is going to be coming in to fill 485 00:37:57,660 --> 00:38:00,280 that gap between those two spaces. 486 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:07,140 so they will be moving in soon with a couple months I would guess. Duncan is continuing to work 487 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:15,360 on their renovation of the former dairy queen. And at 6,056, there's an existing office building 488 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:21,240 and we've had some development inquiries about that property. I can't say more than that because 489 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:26,220 we don't know a lot more than that but as soon as we have more information we'll certainly share that. 490 00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:33,820 The single family home within Accessory Dwelling Unit at 4824-56, right at the East End of 491 00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:36,720 Bass Lake Road by the curb, where it turns north towards the Brooklyn Center. 492 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:38,860 That was an EDA lot. 493 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,620 The builder listed that house with ADU at 600 and 50,000. 494 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,320 They just completed it. 495 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:45,960 They have a sale. 496 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,260 I think they're closing within days, it had 600 and 80,000. 497 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:58,440 So, it's a six-bedroom three-bath house with a three-card garage plus a one-bedroom 498 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,680 radio with its own one-card garage so I mean there's a lot of value there but still 499 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,940 I think that that surprise not only us but the builder that they were able to 500 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:12,060 sell it at that price so they're looking to build more of those they never done 501 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:16,380 this before and they were very happy to leave this turned out so hopefully we'll 502 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:18,540 more than not just in Crystal but elsewhere. 503 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:24,960 52-40 apartments have had some delays with various finishing work, but they are expecting 504 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,160 to open for residents probably in the middle of July, maybe late July. 505 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:40,480 At 6200 block of 36, there is a developer that bought a house within adjacent vacant 506 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:47,180 lot. This is just up the hill and east of the strip mall where Cardale floral is. There's a house 507 00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:52,980 in a very large, not very large property, but large for a single family house. They're planning 508 00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:57,260 to demolish the house and build an eight-unit town home development. They're going to be having 509 00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:59,880 a neighborhood meeting as some time. 510 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:13,760 Fairly soon. And then they are going to use what they get from the neighborhood meeting to submit to inform their submittal for the Planning Commission, presumably for the August Planning Commission meeting. 511 00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:25,520 So, stay tuned on that and we'll have more to share when we have more to share. And then, 3,400 block of Douglas, you may have noticed that the southerly building is being framed up now. 512 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,380 space that eight unit town development on an EDC site is two four unit town home buildings. 513 00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:37,240 The foundation is in for both, but they're doing the framing now on the southerly one closest 514 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:40,520 to 34th and then they'll start on the northern way one. 515 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,340 And then one of their update I wanted to provide. 516 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:52,100 Someone's back, you authorized, and offer for the 5273 West Broadway property, which we 517 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:55,920 would need to reconstruct the double-stripe west-broadway intersection. 518 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,180 We did send it off or over the owner requested a meeting. 519 00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:03,100 We met with them. 520 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,700 They expressed that they are not interested in selling, 521 00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:07,760 but they haven't formally responded. 522 00:41:09,460 --> 00:41:11,600 So if they change their mind, we're still here. 523 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:15,580 But as of right now, it does not look like they are interested 524 00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:19,500 in selling or responding in any way to the offer that we made. 525 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,580 So, that's all I have on that. 526 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:25,220 Any questions, John? 527 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,700 So, on that offer, so they actually met with you and had a brief discussion with you. 528 00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:34,780 They didn't like have a counter, or you can't have that? 529 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:42,880 No, we specifically asked, you know, we kind of encouraged them, you know, is there, is there 530 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,860 price that, you know, I'm just, that's a whole point of this, was to try to get some interest 531 00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:51,160 And the stages didn't, weren't interested. 532 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,960 I think it's safe to say, because they're ultimately trying 533 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,000 to lease part of their land. 534 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,420 Well, what was really interesting is that that online listing 535 00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:05,480 disappeared shortly after you're meeting. 536 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640 I think it's probably coincidence, 537 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:13,380 because it was kind of a far-fetched scenario for a ground lease. 538 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,860 But it was, the timing was, it was the same time, basically. 539 00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:26,580 So, I don't, I, the whole groundly thing didn't really make sense. 540 00:42:27,580 --> 00:42:31,540 So, I, I don't think there's a connection there, but there could be. 541 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,460 Of course. 542 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,060 So, they didn't give any reason. 543 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,720 They're just like, I'm meeting with you to tell you in person. 544 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:41,840 I'm not interested in telling, or like, well, 545 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,400 They had a lot of questions about the proposed inter-intersection reconstruction and the round 546 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,460 about everything else and, you know, we answered those questions, I don't think they agreed 547 00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:56,100 with our answers, but the interim public works director was in the room with me because it was 548 00:42:56,100 --> 00:43:02,360 an infrastructure project, and that's, and to answer those questions, and again, we did answer 549 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,940 the questions about why, you know, why the property would be needed if we do this project, 550 00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:12,060 why we the city was interested in doing this project in the first place. 551 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:17,980 What was wrong with the current intersection, and that kind of thing, and we answered all of those questions. 552 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,200 I would say the majority of that conversation was about the project itself. 553 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,920 Any other questions? 554 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:30,680 Any next steps? 555 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,280 in this situation just yeah I don't think so because we're still trying to gather funding 556 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:43,960 for that project and at some point if that project becomes more real then I think we 557 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,840 can you know we would need to go back to them and we said that in the meeting this project 558 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:56,300 is years away but you know we're as the property owner the key property owner for this project 559 00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:02,780 in where this project we need to go, we feel we should talk to you now rather than wait and 560 00:44:02,780 --> 00:44:10,260 see if you're interested. And that was the purpose of it. We have no plans to 561 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:17,200 proceed at this point anyway with purchasing the property if they're not interested in selling. 562 00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:26,230 For what other question, what was the address of that office building? Where was that office building? 563 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:28,510 and that there was some development in here. 564 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:30,450 You know, that's some inquiries about 6,000, 565 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:30,990 56. 566 00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:33,310 It's sort of a northeast corner of bot knowing vastly. 567 00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:34,250 Okay, that's what I thought. 568 00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:34,990 Yeah, okay. 569 00:44:35,410 --> 00:44:36,270 Yeah, thank you. 570 00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:40,730 Great, thanks for those updates, John. 571 00:44:41,630 --> 00:44:42,970 With that we'll move to other business. 572 00:44:43,710 --> 00:44:45,650 Anything anyone wants to bring up? 573 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:47,840 Okay. 574 00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:50,960 With that, looking for a motion to adjourn, John. 575 00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:52,200 So moved. 576 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Jim, do you have a second? 577 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,100 I'll second that. 578 00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:56,180 All right, all is in favor, please say aye. 579 00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:56,840 Aye, aye. 580 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,660 put us in a meeting is adjourned.