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Good afternoon.

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I'd like to, we adjourn. .

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I would like to call the June 1st Coleman housing authority,

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annual meeting.

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To order. So we'll start the meeting with roll call.

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Christian, you gonna do that? Or am I gonna do

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that?

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You want me to, I I'd like you when you

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do that. all right.

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Cara biddings here.

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Here, bill styles here. Bill Hansen here. Stacy DAYL here.

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Sally Pierce here. Norman maze here. Thank you.

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Thank you. Absent Connie. Banham.

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Okay. So we'll start with the director's report.

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Tenant updates, capital improvements and financial projections.

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So for tenant updates, we did get two.

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Renovated units turned over.

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In this fiscal year, we had one.

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One bedroom unit and one, two bedroom unit.

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There will also soon be a vacant one bedroom unit.

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But they're still moving out right now on that.

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I'm not. And I've left you all a sheet with

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the current rental rates and how many units are paying.

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Those amounts.

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And that's all I have any questions.

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Questions. Thank you. Thank you very much, Christina.

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Oh, hold on. Have one question, Mr. Stiles.

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Stiles. I understand a resident just recently passed away.

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Does that factor into the one unit you said is

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available?

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This is the one that will soon be available. They're

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in the process of moving things out.

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Okay. A one-bedroom unit and that unit was already.

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Renovated so that kitchen's already been done in this unit

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that will soon be vacant.

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Okay, thank you. You're welcome.

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Okay, can we have the updated on calf improvements?

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Capital improvements. We we're still working on our 10 year

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plan trying to prioritize things within the buildings that, that.

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Need to be updated. One of the major capital improvements

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that I've kind of identified over the past two years.

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And put into our actual town operating budget. This year

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was we're repaving. The, the.

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The road red mill road that goes into the senior

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housing project.

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We've identified the circle at the senior housing project as

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being hazardous.

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We're updating some of the sewer man holes, updating some

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of the drainage.

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And then we're gonna go in and.

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Repave the driveways and repave the walkways, the walkways have

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been a.

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A real trip hazard. This, this winter, some of the

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pavement was torn up by the plow trucks.

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So that that was in the, in the towns operating

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budget, not in the senior housing operating budget for this

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year.

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We're hoping to do that. This, this spring and summer.

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We are watching oil prices and pavement prices.

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Prices. So if for some reason,

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if the paving prices don't come down.

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We'll definitely be doing it in the spring, but we're

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hoping to get it done this summer.

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So that's, that's really one of that's a major project.

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It's it's.

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It's, there's gonna be a lot of communication when we

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decide that we want to move forward with this, because

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there's going to.

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Be some issues with getting in and outta your driveways,

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but.

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It's really

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the contractors work well with you. They'll let you know,

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Hey, you know, you might want to get out tomorrow

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morning or we're gonna be in the way. So there'll

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be a lot of communication from Christina.

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With you folks. Once we decide that when we have

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an idea of when we're gonna be going in there

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to do that, so.

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And that's really all I have bill. Just one quick

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question, Chris, are you tying that together with other.

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Town pavement projects so we can get better pavement pricing.

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Assuming the answer is yes, but yes. I always like

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to hear the public, hear that you are.

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Doing those things to economies at scale is cuz it's,

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it's long to write into the whole paving project. And

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that's why I just kept it into the paving project.

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It was a good year to put.

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Senior housing into it because.

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We had caught up on some of the other roads.

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And we like to put so much money a year

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into our paving plan. So this was a way to

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do that road and it just made sense to do

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the driveway.

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Driveways while we're doing the road in the cul-de-sac.

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Great. I'm Mr. Siles.

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Is the paving and the plowing people, their insurance taking

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care of them, the damage to the pavement.

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The damage to the pavement. Really? It, it won't be

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cuz it was really due to poor pavement. So we,

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we take some responsibility with that, that it was already.

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Lifted and cracking, there was no way around it, whether

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they had done it or we had done it, they

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are responsible for going in and, and fixing the lawns

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and anything that they.

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They've torn up. But other than that, no.

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Thank you. You scroll into bowl for.

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Receiving putting soil down. It hasn't been done for 20

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years.

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It's it's, it's really due to damage. So we, we.

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Go on a repay the damage. But when we go

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in and repair all these sidewalks and driveways, we're gonna

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have to go loam and rec. We're gonna have to

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loam up to 'em and recede and everyth.

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Everything. So

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I came home.

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Cause now they're covered with.

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They did about, they were here this morning, the same

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people who give the flowers and they tore things up

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that little.

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That little machine called cat.

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Lawns up everywhere. It's a mess. And they re they

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redid Judy McAfee. They.

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Didn't they only did about.

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Four, a token, they did four and all the rest

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of the circle has not been done and they were

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due to have it done.

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June 1st and Dean knows about it. Dean has been absolutely

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extraordinarily wonderful about taking care of us by the way.

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I'll follow up with Dean. I knew they were in

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there today. If they weren't finished today, they'll probably be

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finished tomorrow. So I'm.

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I'm gonna refer your questions to the chair.

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Yes in the back. Hi. Yes. I have some damage

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to the vinyl sliding on my unit.

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That we figure the people. Did. They.

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So in the siding on the corner piece.

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They dump the pipe coming down.

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And I'm wondering who care about that. So, Chris, Chris,

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can you, is there a process for tenants to take

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and report.

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Damage to their units. Yes, sir. Anything you see, it's

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in your housing of concern, you call into Christina. Christina

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makes a note. We make a punch list and we

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send it out either Dean or.

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Tom out to, to review it. Who knows about it?

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I just, you know, that we, you talked about before,

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cause it was damaging.

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We'll follow up. We'll take a look. I know that

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they're right on top of it. We have contractors lined

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up to go in and fix a lot of this

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stuff. It's just, it takes a while with.

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Contractors nowadays, I'm gonna cover it with point duct

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tape. I don't want any boss noise nest to me.

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Yeah. Cause.

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It's a good hole. Well, Christina's making notes, so we'll,

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we'll follow up tomorrow morning.

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All right. Any other capital improvement?

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No, sir. Okay.

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Okay. Now we're onto item three, which is financial projections.

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And.

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Mr child manager, that we will be doing that portion

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of it.

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I will be Mr. Chair, if it's okay. I'd like

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to also.

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Include on this, like what we're looking at on, on

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the budget for this year. Sure. As well as projected

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for rent increases, cuz it all kind of.

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Comes together under one under one umbrella there. If it's,

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it'd be fine.

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So what, what we have this year is this year's.

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Forecast senior housing proposed budget.

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And it shows overall it's about a.

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It's a, it's a 5.4% decrease from last year's budget.

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However that's a little bit.

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Let's say sneaky math, because we do also supplement it

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with $45,000 of capital reserve transfer.

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That was going in to try to help offset.

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Some of the expenses that, that were in there this

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year we saw and that.

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Does a significant increase over what we have done historically,

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but trying to help close the gap with the overall

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operational budget.

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Some of the bigger challenges that we had this year.

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We're a lot of it in operational cost and it

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would be on salaries for the staff that we have

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there.

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They had a cost living increase this year, 4%.

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For the full-time wages, also our health insurance this year.

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For the town overall went up 14%.

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For this allocation that we have for this part of

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the, of our budget, we're looking at a 10% increase

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there year over year.

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That we allocated into it. And then the larger.

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Components that we had were on our.

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On our heating systems, maintenance budget this year, we're increasing

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that by about 32% due to replacement of heating systems

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that need to.

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Take place or, or forecast over the coming year.

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As well, and then followed up by.

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Contractual maintenance. So we're talking about the folks who are

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doing our work for the plowing and the snow maintenance

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and other.

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Groundskeeping during the year, that was a contractual increase of

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14% or $5,000.

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And then building maintenance itself was also an increase this

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year, year over year by $3,000, just for, you know,

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standard standard.

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Work that we'll have to take place over the course

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of the year. They were really the lions share of

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the increase that we saw in the budget year.

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Year over year.

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And so looking at that, the.

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Before any form of increase on rent increases this year.

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The the senior housing was looking at a, at a,

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at a loss of roughly or, or a deficit of

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about $22,600.

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Compared to last year, last year was slightly.

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It was slightly above.

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But this year, if we go on the current status,

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we're about 22.

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Six below what we need for.

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To to break even. So based on that, I've come

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forward with a.

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As, I guess I can give you back looking back

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at about this time last year, we were discussing an

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increase on rates and.

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You know, our recommendation last year was to not change

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the rates cuz we weren't sure what we were looking

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at, looking at from an economy standpoint.

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This year, we're looking at making a recommendation of a

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4% increase. So that turns into a, roughly a 2%

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year over year average over.

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The past two years, but a lot of that it's

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tracking a little bit less than what the consumer price

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index is gonna be for this year. They're looking at.

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Over the course of the summer at about four and

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a half percent is the CPI. So we're, we're tracking

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a little bit less than that. We're probably close to.

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At about what inflation is gonna be at least.

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If oil stays where it's at. Unfortunately, we'll be looking

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at that as a, as an inflationary cost.

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But

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then the other, I don't know we had on that,

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you know, a lot of it's just trying to meet

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the needs that we do have instead of keeping to

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going back, cuz it's not sustainable to go into.

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Our reserve funds year over year to try to balance

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the budget off from that. Because at some point we

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may have a larger capital expense that we'll need to.

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Reach into our savings account. If you will.

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To, to fund that, to help us going forward.

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The other item that I have.

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That and the, the board may remember this discussion from

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last year as well.

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The town over the last year, voted to expand our

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solar field up and back of us on off ground

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road. So that should be break.

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Breaking ground here in the near term, which will change

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the complexion of our electrical side of it. So I

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think that'll be it. We may.

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Ask the board to come back at another time during

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this year.

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To look at potentially finding a way to.

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Offset the electrical utility.

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Costs for the units. So, but we don't know what

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those numbers are gonna look like right now. Well, I

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know that Chris pulled together all of the unit.

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Electrical bills last year, when we were going through this

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exercise with revision to figure out.

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What, what our overall usage was for municipally owned properties.

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So that was put into the mix, but we're gonna

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look at what we have.

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For yields and what we can do to apply it

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towards those, you know, potentially apply those towards our, our,

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our lovely clients, electrical bills.

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As they go forward. So if you can find a

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way to say.

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To find a, a cost, I guess you could say

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a cost effective.

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And also a reasonable number that will be less than

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what they're currently paying for electricity, but helps us offset

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the capital expense. So, but that'll be a.

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A future discussion that, that we're looking to do, but

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that that's on the positive side. So.

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Long story short, we're looking at a 4% for this

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year would be our recommendation.

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And still with that being said, we're we do still

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have a little bit of a structural gap when it's

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all said and done by raising the interest rates.

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Sorry, the rent rates by 4% will net us roughly

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about 15,000.

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$179.

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Above and beyond what we had forecast in the budget

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for rent.

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So that would make the gap still a deficit of

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about $7,400.

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But that's best case scenario that we're looking at now,

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or, or at least, you know, we may find at

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the end of the year, we may not have expended

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everything.

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So we're within a, a gap there that I think

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we'll probably break even, or be right around, right around

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a zero base budget. When it's all said and done.

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Thank you. You're very welcome, sir.

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I guess I'd like to.

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Talk about our processes this point in time right now.

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Cause I'm, I'm assuming there's a lot of our lovely

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tents here. Want to talk on this subject? You have

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the red increase. I'm I'm guessing. That's why you're here.

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And I'd like to have a, a process. We go

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forward cuz it's public communist towards the end of this.

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And I, I just would like to have the board.

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Discuss, whether we'd like to hear it from the tenants

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first and then have board discussion or vice versa. And

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I'd like to just, they just go down the board

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and tell me how you prefer to run that.

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Carl will you start?

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Yeah, I think it makes sense to hear from the

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public first and then have our discussion. We know their

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concerns.

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Concerns. I agree. I agree. I do too. Okay. That's

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gonna be our process. Great. So if you could just

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raise your hand.

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To give your name and where you live and then,

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and talk about what could we ask them to go

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to the podium because it's being recorded? Yes, it is.

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Would that be okay? People make it to the podium.

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I dunno how it works.

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I because so people at home can hear what's going

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on. Let's Mr. Veil can find a way to bring

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a mic.

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To you, which maybe he's he's on that. I don't

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even know if it's up there.

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My house, the

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where'd he go

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I think we've had that in a while. I

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don't, I don't think we Haven quite all right. So,

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so this.

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Discussion is, is, is

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purely focused on the proposed rate increase. That's what this

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discussion will be about. There'll be public comment later on

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for things outside of that, but this is just gonna

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be.

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For the rate increase is what we're increases. What's that?

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It's on my unit. I came from mine.

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Next door and they

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charge me for, so it's taken off my rent behind

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the podium, Bob.

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Hiding on me.

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Hasn't changed since I've asked every year, has the rate.

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Changed the tragedy for the.

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Just one, two hasn't changed.

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Yeah, they, they checked it last year, Tom. Okay. Well,

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thank you very much for that assistance. You're welcome. That

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is great to cover.

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What they're okay. When I'm, can you hear me? No.

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No. Is it on light?

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Should be good to go.

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And do you think coming out of yep. You got

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a hold of, we look pretty close. Looks like I

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didn't have it close enough. Okay.

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In the units, only one person pays for the radar

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for the connecting units.

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I'm in a two, there are two of us together.

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And when it was in, they told me the rate

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was $20 a month. I would pay for the rate

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on.

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And they take it off. And my rent.

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And I asked the question, has the rate gone up?

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That they're charging me for the rate on does the

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fan and the whole bit.

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And the answer has been no, the ch the electricity

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hasn't gone up there.

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And so if the it's costing me $30.

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A month for the radar. Now it should be deducted

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for my.

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Rent. So we're, I'm just wondering, has the rate for

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the Rateon gone up.

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Okay. So

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Christine. Do you want to discuss that?

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Yeah, I believe it was last year. Tom looked into

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how much energy, the radon meters.

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Use and the $20 credit that is given to the

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people that have the radon meters.

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Tied into their electrical bill.

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Is more than enough to cover. So they've.

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Gotten probably more of a credit than what they've been

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paying every year.

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Or every month, so that $20 a month credit is

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still enough.

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To cover the rate on meter usage. Thank you. Christine

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said we built it in higher for that reason, just

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so we weren't chasing it.

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Every year mm-hmm .

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Okay, so, so questions related to the proposed rating rate

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increase.

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Thank you, Mr. Vale for, for.

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Walking the mic. If you could just say your name

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and where you live and then state your concern or

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question.

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Hi, Nancy. Hussie I'm at number 69.

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And I was just wondering, it was really nice. Last

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year we had zero increase.

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But I'm wondering, no matter how the economics looked.

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If we could every year get a small increase.

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Which you would get to then use the money.

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And that we wouldn't get such a larger increase two

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years later. I mean, I could understand the two and

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the two.

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But it would given you the money to use, to

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go towards a deficit.

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And maybe I'm in the minority that just soon pay

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it as we go along.

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I think we'll look at that going forward too last

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year was kind of a.

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Cause we were also looking at changing rates.

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For as new tenants came in. So we were looking

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at a lot of those cuz.

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There was a lot of moving parts, I guess, on

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overall rates. So they shifted for new tenants last year,

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up to higher rates that were gonna be starting.

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As a, as units turned over. So we had that

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increase that took place on the go forward. And then

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this year we're looking at it on the overall picture,

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but then next year,

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we'll probably look at, like you said, probably.

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Like a, a lower percentage increase year over year. And

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that'll, that'll close that gap. And.

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Keep us, I think they'll keep us in decent shape.

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Thank you. So thank you, Gail. Your turn.

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I think you can hear me with, so yes, but

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can you just in state your name and where you,

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where you live too before you start? Yes. My nameis.

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Gail Ray Carter. I'm at 50 Hawk. Oh, we, we

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need that for the TV to hear you for the

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TV thing. Yes, because we're on, we're on, we're on

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TV. My name.

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Is Gail Ray Carter and I live at number 50

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Hawthorne court.

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And I don't have any concerns other than the fact

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that several of us who live there.

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Still have old kitchens.

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Kitchens, you cannot use a KitchenAid mixer.

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Because the distance between the countertop and the top cupboards.

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Cupboards is only about 10 or 12 inches.

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I have a quiz and art food processor.

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And I have to pull a food processor.

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All the way to the front of the cupboard to

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even get the cover on it, to use it to

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puree a soup.

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So I've been studying Southern living and decorating magazines and

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looking at the cupboards.

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Cupboards. If it takes two months.

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To replace a kitchen. It seems to me.

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That we got a letter from Christina.

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Telling us that, that you'd almost have to move out

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to get your kitchen and get a new kitchen.

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I kind of, don't like to be jealous of my

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new neighbors.

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Neighbors because they're nice neighbors, but they all have new

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kitchens.

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Kitchens and they're lovely.

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So I figured a way.

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That my kitchen could be fixed.

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So I could use a KitchenAid mixer.

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You leave the left cupboard as they are. You leave

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the right cupboards as they are.

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But when you look at the back wall, the wooden

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cupboards are.

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In sections so that you.

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Would take that section off the wall.

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And raise it up a little bit.

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And then it would have to have refinished, you know,

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where.

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The space is where you rose up that one section.

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And then it would be much more workable.

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And I don't plan to move away.

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Until they take me away.

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So this would be

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sort of a bonus.

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Yeah, there's just food for thought.

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It's not a complaint.

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Complaint. Thank you.

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So, what I heard from you is a potential short

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term solution until we could get the renovations completed to

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make it more usable. I guess, Chris, is that something

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that you could.

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Look into it seems to me.

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There are some people somewhere.

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In this vicinity that could come in there and tear

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that kitchen out and do it in a week.

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In a perfect world. lots of, and with all

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the contractors that we've been dealing with,

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that may be right, but when we're ordering the countertops,

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countertops, getting plumbers, electricians, getting the cabinets, ripped out, getting

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cabinets, put back in, getting the flooring, organized, getting the

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painting done.

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It would just, it's a lot of moving parts and

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what, and when we come up with two months,

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we're really, we don't want you to get into a

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situation where you, you tell us that you can do

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it. And then all of a sudden, you know, three

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weeks go by and you're washing dishes.

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Dishes in the bathtub and you know, you're getting upset

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with us and we just, our hands are tied. So.

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We are looking at other options. We've actually, I, I

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know Christina's made a couple contacts. We have an empty

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unit right now.

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That has already been redone. We're looking at the possibility

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of giving folks the option of.

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Moving in there for a couple months.

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Or taking that unit and giving up their unit so

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we can renovate. So we're, we are.

514
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,270
We've constantly looking at options to, to get this done

515
00:23:55,270 --> 00:23:59,770
without, without inconveniencing you, but also being realistic on our

516
00:23:59,770 --> 00:24:00,600
end. Yeah, I totally.

517
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,200
Understand the issues with the different contractors.

518
00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:06,070
That's why I came up with the patch idea.

519
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,930
It's like a bandaid.

520
00:24:11,470 --> 00:24:13,070
I will check with Dean and Tom to see how

521
00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:17,700
much of a project that would be. So we will

522
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,370
take a look at it. Christina wrote down.

523
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:22,470
The the information and we'll thank you, Chris.

524
00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:25,430
Okay. Do we have any other con comments or concerns

525
00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:28,770
focused on the proposed rate increase by the town manager

526
00:24:29,030 --> 00:24:30,600
for the, this upcoming year?

527
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,470
Now I'm not gonna lie. I wish she could be

528
00:24:35,470 --> 00:24:38,030
zero, but you can see the numbers. That's not possible.

529
00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:42,670
Our goal was to provide affordable housing for all of

530
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:43,030
Utah.

531
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:46,070
To take care, but also physically we need to make

532
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:47,200
sure these units are.

533
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:51,770
Maintained properly. So please, if the things are, are not

534
00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:53,370
right, please let Christina know.

535
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:57,670
That's really, really important because we wanna make sure that

536
00:24:57,670 --> 00:24:59,830
things are correct and, and taken care of. That's really

537
00:24:59,830 --> 00:25:00,570
important to us.

538
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,030
So, and the end of the day, it's, you know,

539
00:25:04,030 --> 00:25:04,570
the town.

540
00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:07,700
Really isn't in the, in the business of supporting housing.

541
00:25:07,970 --> 00:25:09,070
This housing is a great.

542
00:25:10,170 --> 00:25:12,430
Asset we have, and it needs to be self-sustaining. So

543
00:25:12,430 --> 00:25:14,030
that's that, that is what our goal is.

544
00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:17,100
And I think we can do that in officially responsive

545
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,570
way. And I appreciate the planning and forethought that Christina

546
00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:22,600
and Chris and, and Matt have put.

547
00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:25,930
Into what they're doing to try to keep it in

548
00:25:25,930 --> 00:25:28,370
this direction, because I can tell you, there are a

549
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:30,970
lot of places where these things get started and then.

550
00:25:31,470 --> 00:25:33,000
They, they kind of get run down and they're not

551
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,670
in, not in good shape. And I think, you know,

552
00:25:35,670 --> 00:25:37,500
we, we set up a, really a.

553
00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:42,200
A high standard for, for that goes. Any more comments

554
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,100
for open up to board comments on the, on the

555
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:44,670
rent increase.

556
00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:48,800
I'm Julie McAfee. I'm a 48 Hawthorne. I've been here

557
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,100
20 years in my unit.

558
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:52,570
I'm very happy in the unit.

559
00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:55,270
It hasn't been done over I'm in no hurry to

560
00:25:55,270 --> 00:25:56,030
have it done over.

561
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,100
And there are others in the, in the complex to

562
00:25:59,100 --> 00:25:59,930
feel the same way.

563
00:26:01,030 --> 00:26:02,230
Thank you very much. Yeah.

564
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:05,930
Any other comments before we go to board discussion around

565
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:06,930
the, the right increase.

566
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:09,970
Right. Seeing no other

567
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:13,100
we, we can go.

568
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,930
Start one of the table. We can go hands. Do

569
00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:17,570
you wanna start Norma? You're right. And work this way.

570
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,000
Sure I can start. Excuse me.

571
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:22,430
So, yes, I

572
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:26,600
as I agree with bill that, you know, as much

573
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,600
as we would like to.

574
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,600
See, you know, the, the rents kept lower. I'm looking

575
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,030
at.

576
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,970
The what other rents are in, in the area.

577
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,070
And it, it definitely

578
00:26:39,070 --> 00:26:41,670
is an affordable rent. These rents.

579
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:46,600
Rents are even at the 4% increase are, are definitely.

580
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:49,570
More affordable than there are other.

581
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:51,830
Market rate rents out there.

582
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,930
To that, that you would be able be able to

583
00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:56,200
find.

584
00:26:57,170 --> 00:26:58,230
So I would say that.

585
00:26:59,470 --> 00:27:02,000
Looking at the 4% this year and hopefully.

586
00:27:03,070 --> 00:27:04,930
Tapering that down, moving forward.

587
00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:08,030
In the coming years, making it a more.

588
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:10,700
A little more.

589
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:12,670
Palatable increase.

590
00:27:14,030 --> 00:27:16,570
So that we can maintain these, these units at the.

591
00:27:17,370 --> 00:27:19,230
At the standards that we have for, for so many

592
00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:19,500
years.

593
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,300
I think I agree that this 4% increase is.

594
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,500
Is justified. So thank you.

595
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:27,830
Thank you norm.

596
00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:33,270
I don't know whether you hear me.

597
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,300
I have a problem with my.

598
00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:39,570
Voice Connie. I did. If you pull that mic real

599
00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:41,970
close, it will work real. You get real close to

600
00:27:41,970 --> 00:27:44,800
pull or even pull the base even forward. I do.

601
00:27:45,570 --> 00:27:47,000
Agree with the increase.

602
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,000
We probably should have looked at.

603
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:53,830
Smaller increases.

604
00:27:55,070 --> 00:27:56,000
Increases in the past.

605
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,470
Lee after this.

606
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:04,000
But we have to pay for the.

607
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:06,430
Cost of

608
00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:07,930
bills.

609
00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:11,570
Thank you, Connie.

610
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:16,300
I agree with what

611
00:28:17,170 --> 00:28:17,800
these folks have said

612
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,700
and I think the 4% increase is it's. It's reasonable.

613
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,230
It's necessary.

614
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:28,570
I appreciate all of your comments.

615
00:28:29,770 --> 00:28:29,800
Comments. Thank you.

616
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:35,230
These are are affordable.

617
00:28:36,370 --> 00:28:38,300
Rents, even with the 4% increase.

618
00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:41,700
So thank you folks for your work. They, this looks

619
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,370
good. Thank you. I appreciate it.

620
00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:45,600
William

621
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:49,000
nowadays.

622
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,700
Nowadays, you know, as I look back on life,

623
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:56,430
everything is just playing costing way too much.

624
00:28:57,930 --> 00:28:59,430
I can remember gasoline.

625
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,700
In less than 25 cents a gallon. .

626
00:29:03,630 --> 00:29:06,230
At it now, I just, my.

627
00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:09,030
Stepson just bought a new pickup truck.

628
00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:11,970
And it approached $80,000.

629
00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:17,000
My first house cost me under $14,000. Mm-hmm .

630
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,970
How can you buy a pickup truck? That's relative to

631
00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:22,270
essentially four, five times.

632
00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:24,000
What you pay for a house?

633
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:27,770
We have to maintain the rental values.

634
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,670
To make sure that life is you folks know it.

635
00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:31,230
And we know it.

636
00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:35,200
Is good. I have always been a staunch advocate.

637
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:38,370
Of having a little bit every year so that we

638
00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:41,000
don't have to go to a, for a 5 cent.

639
00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:43,070
Cents. Cuz in my mind, it's a lot easier to

640
00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:44,670
pick up 2% this year.

641
00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:47,000
And 2% next year, rather than.

642
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:49,270
Get a four or 5% increase.

643
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,200
I'm looking at at the.

644
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,270
The way the units are established now.

645
00:29:57,370 --> 00:30:00,370
And I, and we have grandfathered units and so forth.

646
00:30:01,570 --> 00:30:02,770
I I'm just wondering Chris.

647
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:06,430
When do some of these older units, for example, a

648
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:06,700
two.

649
00:30:07,670 --> 00:30:09,000
Subsidized one bedroom units.

650
00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:12,430
You know, if, if they were into a normal rental

651
00:30:12,770 --> 00:30:15,930
that would take care of the 5% increase right there.

652
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:17,700
Mm-hmm so I don't know.

653
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:19,970
When in my planning mind.

654
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,670
When some of these subsidized a grandfather's.

655
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,270
Grandfather's disappear and end up being a current rate.

656
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,930
And, and not that you have to do it, but

657
00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:32,030
it's, it's it's in my mind wondering.

658
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,030
If that's some of the problem.

659
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:37,970
And I guess I'm getting to the point where.

660
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,700
I'm wishing that we had just.

661
00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:44,670
Two rates and not having to multiply and change each

662
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,500
one because I can see right now the next rental

663
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,670
rates are gonna be.

664
00:30:49,570 --> 00:30:53,100
The 2027 rates or the 2028 rates.

665
00:30:53,970 --> 00:30:55,770
I would rather us have a.

666
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,970
A single rate that stayed the same for both the

667
00:30:58,970 --> 00:31:01,700
two, two bedroom units and the single bedroom units.

668
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:03,070
And then

669
00:31:05,170 --> 00:31:07,000
if we just could cut expenses, that would be nice.

670
00:31:08,830 --> 00:31:11,500
I always want to cut. Yeah. for example, the

671
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,700
budget, we should be able to cut that by 10%

672
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,270
and not have to increase anything.

673
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,700
But I'm not in that position and I appreciate everything

674
00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:22,670
you folks have done for this. So.

675
00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:25,430
I'm just actively thinking.

676
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,000
Thank you, sir. Okay. Kara.

677
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,030
Yeah, I'm in agreement with everything that was said, and

678
00:31:34,570 --> 00:31:34,930
I agree.

679
00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:38,770
That maybe we should have thought last year about us

680
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:41,270
in a smaller increment, but I think at the time,

681
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:45,300
costs were already starting to go up in so many

682
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:47,970
areas of life. So we thought, well, if we can

683
00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:48,970
spare that here.

684
00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:51,600
Then, then that's a good thing.

685
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,700
But it sounds like for the most part, people are

686
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,930
having a good experience in the units and that's a

687
00:31:57,930 --> 00:32:00,430
great thing and something that we want to continue.

688
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,970
So based on the numbers that we're seeing, I think

689
00:32:04,030 --> 00:32:05,470
that the 4% rate.

690
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:09,000
Increase is appropriate and necessary.

691
00:32:11,370 --> 00:32:14,830
Okay, great. I just a couple clarifying questions, Mr. Manager.

692
00:32:16,030 --> 00:32:17,600
So, if I'm looking at this correctly,

693
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:21,930
or unallocated fund balance is around 27,000 right now. Is

694
00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:24,070
that what I'm seeing? I believe so. Yes, sir. That

695
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:26,300
is our available funds. Should catastrophe.

696
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:28,500
Catastrophe occur. And we're talking about.

697
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:32,800
Just to make my math simple, a $400,000 budget, just

698
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,930
cuz I'm rounding up in my head.

699
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:36,930
Yes, sir. So you're looking at about 5% as your

700
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:38,930
contingency that you have right now, which is on the

701
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:39,770
very thin side.

702
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,370
With a proposed increase, 4%.

703
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,970
You will get on about $20,000.

704
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,030
In reserve. Yeah. So now you're getting down to.

705
00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:52,830
Less than less than 5%, but in that range,

706
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,230
so just to be that's my understanding, is that correct?

707
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:57,230
Yes. Okay.

708
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:01,930
Great. I, I guess I do agree with you, Mr.

709
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:02,930
Stiles, with.

710
00:33:03,630 --> 00:33:06,070
The rental rates is there's a lot to this, but

711
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:08,070
I also, there's a huge advantage for some of our

712
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:10,200
folks who've been here for a long time that that

713
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,500
kind of get locked in. Come.

714
00:33:12,030 --> 00:33:14,670
Kind of similar to what some of the property tax

715
00:33:14,670 --> 00:33:17,570
relief they've talked about in, in the state is looking

716
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,800
at when you get to a point a certain age,

717
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:23,000
that stays and doesn't increase. So this advantages to all

718
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,070
of you with that. So the model is hard for

719
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:27,100
Christina to manage.

720
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:30,970
Nearly impossible. As you can see the folks who are

721
00:33:30,970 --> 00:33:33,230
moving in today into your apartments are gonna pay a

722
00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:34,500
fair amount more than what you're paying.

723
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:39,030
Going forward. So there is an, obviously there's a, there's

724
00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:42,000
a advantage for tenure and for, for common residents who

725
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,100
have been here a long time and, and.

726
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:44,700
Provided so many, one

727
00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:48,370
contributions to the town. So I think there's, there's a,

728
00:33:48,370 --> 00:33:50,600
certainly an upside to that, which I I'm, I'm proud

729
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:50,800
of.

730
00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,930
I, you know, I don't like to look, look back.

731
00:33:53,930 --> 00:33:55,670
We made the best decision we could last year.

732
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,270
Okay. And here we are. And I think the solemn

733
00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:59,700
truth is we need to move forward.

734
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,230
I think the 4% is, is responsible. I would.

735
00:34:04,030 --> 00:34:08,070
I guess I would charge Chris and Christina, as we're

736
00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:09,830
moving forward with this budget to see what we can

737
00:34:09,830 --> 00:34:11,770
do to is opportunities to save.

738
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,430
Come available that we try to look at trying to

739
00:34:14,430 --> 00:34:17,070
mean our operating costs next year under budget. So we

740
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:19,030
can reduce that $7,000 loss.

741
00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:21,600
With a goal to get it to parody, which that's

742
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:23,830
a, that's a ask. But I think that that would,

743
00:34:23,830 --> 00:34:24,570
should be our target.

744
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:28,570
And, you know, I appreciate all the support and it's

745
00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:29,600
also great to see all of you.

746
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:32,230
This is special for us, cuz I'm, I'm afraid I

747
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:34,370
don't get over your way very often. So it's nice

748
00:34:34,370 --> 00:34:35,600
to see you all here. So.

749
00:34:36,430 --> 00:34:39,570
Mr manage. I also support your, your proposal. Thank you

750
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,430
again. I wish it was, it could be one or

751
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:42,000
2%.

752
00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:45,470
But I think that the problem would be went down

753
00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:47,800
that road. And I've been there before with other town

754
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,100
committees. And what have you, is that it's, it builds

755
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:50,930
on itself and.

756
00:34:51,070 --> 00:34:52,700
Then pretty soon, we're not, we're asking for a six

757
00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:54,800
or a seven or eight or nine or 10% increase.

758
00:34:55,630 --> 00:34:57,700
And that's the last thing we want to do, cuz

759
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,200
that becomes real hard to, to navigate.

760
00:35:01,830 --> 00:35:03,930
We have one. We have one, one more question.

761
00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:10,000
One thing that they've always told us when they've gone

762
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:10,430
up and.

763
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:13,670
Is, they always look at our social security.

764
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,830
And years where we have no.

765
00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:21,300
Raise like last year, I don't believe the social security

766
00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:21,970
went up.

767
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,570
Damn it. Oh, just very little, but they've.

768
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,500
Used that to judge what they were gonna make the

769
00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:29,230
rinse be.

770
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:33,470
Because most of us are using our social security.

771
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:35,430
To pay the rent.

772
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:39,000
And that's it. That's a lot of us. That's our

773
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,070
total.

774
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:43,030
Income that we get from the government is social security.

775
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,370
So keep that in mind. Absolutely.

776
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,570
Absolutely. So

777
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,470
with that. I, I think.

778
00:35:51,070 --> 00:35:53,570
I need to entertain a motion to accept the, the

779
00:35:53,570 --> 00:35:54,830
town manager's recommendation.

780
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:59,600
On we'll start with the, with the budget first and

781
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,970
then we would go re increase. Secondly, those would be

782
00:36:01,970 --> 00:36:03,930
the two motions. I believe I need to have Christina.

783
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:06,600
Am I correct on that. Okay. So can I have

784
00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:07,030
a motion?

785
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:10,030
Concerning the ex adoption of the proposed.

786
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:11,930
Budget presented by the town manager.

787
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,270
I would rather discuss the budget first.

788
00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:19,030
Okay, well, we have a motion, then we have discussion.

789
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:21,200
That'll be the order, right. So I would think, yes.

790
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,470
Okay. So let's, let's have the motion, then we'll have

791
00:36:23,470 --> 00:36:24,030
discussion.

792
00:36:24,830 --> 00:36:26,570
In, in reviewing this budget.

793
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:30,030
We talk, one of the things, the town manager and

794
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:30,930
the proposing here.

795
00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:35,230
Is more expenditure on a heating system, maintenance.

796
00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:37,700
I don't understand.

797
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:40,030
We have, as I understand it.

798
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,200
A gas heating system, propane heating system.

799
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,830
And those are, are pretty.

800
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,000
Substantial stable heating units.

801
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,030
Why we basically

802
00:36:51,070 --> 00:36:55,000
putting $40,000 a year into maintenance of, of heating systems

803
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:56,100
that should be leveled.

804
00:36:58,070 --> 00:37:00,000
A lot of these heating systems are over 10 years

805
00:37:00,070 --> 00:37:00,370
old now.

806
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,030
You you're thinking about them going in brand new and.

807
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,370
Many of 'em are over 10 years old and they

808
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:07,430
do have maintenance parts.

809
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,430
They're not as, as much as oil. And I think

810
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000
the chairman could probably chime in on that more so

811
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,970
than I with, with his profession. But.

812
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,470
They still have maintenance parts and we also have.

813
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:23,030
A maintenance service agreement because we have them serviced twice

814
00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:23,230
a year.

815
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:25,830
So they come in and they check 'em all out.

816
00:37:25,830 --> 00:37:26,500
They clean them.

817
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:28,570
So

818
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:32,770
this is all based on a fixed maintenance agreement and

819
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,830
also repair costs.

820
00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:38,030
Well, I, it, it just appears to me that if

821
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:42,570
we're putting $40,000 a year into maintain it, maintaining a.

822
00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:42,930
System.

823
00:37:45,170 --> 00:37:47,070
are we wasted our money, putting that service in

824
00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:47,270
there.

825
00:37:48,370 --> 00:37:50,070
I mean in the buildings that I've owned.

826
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:52,800
You haven't got to spend that much money.

827
00:37:53,570 --> 00:37:55,700
Every year to maintain it. You have to do it

828
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:57,000
periodically. Yes.

829
00:37:57,930 --> 00:38:00,970
But not every year. And I know that that particular

830
00:38:00,970 --> 00:38:04,030
heating system is one of the ones that requires the

831
00:38:04,030 --> 00:38:04,700
lease maintenance.

832
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:08,930
So it just doesn't seem right. That we have to

833
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:10,670
spend $50,000 a year.

834
00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:14,030
Rounded figures on maintenance.

835
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,300
Not that we shouldn't spend maintenance. I don't say that.

836
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,600
But it's just the amount that, that.

837
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,930
Is bothering me.

838
00:38:23,570 --> 00:38:25,930
And, and part, part of that too. Mr. Styles.

839
00:38:27,070 --> 00:38:29,000
You know, if you think about twice a year on.

840
00:38:29,770 --> 00:38:30,970
Because if 30 heating systems.

841
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:33,930
So it's roughly $1,400.

842
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:36,300
Per, you know, per unit.

843
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:39,800
Allocation. So they've got the twice a year.

844
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,030
Servicing that takes place. And then God forbid you have

845
00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:44,570
a, a system that fails.

846
00:38:45,770 --> 00:38:47,270
Fails. So to replace one of those, you're probably talking

847
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:50,270
in the 10, 10 K range, $10,000 range now for

848
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:51,230
a burner and a boiler.

849
00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:55,000
So, this is kind of your, your.

850
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:57,470
In many ways, your pricing for your.

851
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,470
Your annual operation, but also your worst case scenario. So

852
00:39:01,470 --> 00:39:03,770
if we have a couple systems that might fail during

853
00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:04,000
the year,

854
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,830
as they get over 10 years old, then.

855
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,800
We at least have a little bit of a cushion

856
00:39:09,970 --> 00:39:11,930
in there. And if you look at what our.

857
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,570
Actuals on our heating.

858
00:39:15,070 --> 00:39:16,100
Systems are usually around.

859
00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:20,470
Around 2020 K per year, 20 to 30 K per

860
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:20,770
year.

861
00:39:21,570 --> 00:39:24,030
Roughly in that range so that you know, that invariably

862
00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:24,200
will.

863
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,930
Invariably will be

864
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:30,000
once one or two systems may go down. And so

865
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,270
that's why we kind of price that.

866
00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:32,570
Into there as well.

867
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:35,770
Okay. Yep.

868
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:39,670
Next question I have is we have a, a budget

869
00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:42,270
for legal and accounting of a thousand.

870
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,270
Do we have any, any real legal.

871
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,800
Problems or accounting problems that we need to budget that

872
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,200
much for.

873
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:52,600
I think what we're doing is allocating that.

874
00:39:53,570 --> 00:39:55,800
Potentially, I'd say you could look at for a legal

875
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,100
expense.

876
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,430
If God forbid you had someone that.

877
00:39:59,930 --> 00:40:00,970
Either needed to

878
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:03,970
to leave due to nonpayment, or if you had an

879
00:40:03,970 --> 00:40:06,000
eviction or something along those lines that you had to

880
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,070
take place, or if there was some.

881
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:10,230
It's it's more like insurance on that as far as

882
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:11,270
from the legal standpoint.

883
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:15,270
The accounting's more allocation for what the town annually spends

884
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:15,830
for auditing.

885
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,970
So it's all, you know, we try to find.

886
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:20,970
You know, cuz they'll audit these books as well as

887
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:23,000
partly the, the whole town's municipal audit.

888
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:27,000
I understand, but that seems like a lot.

889
00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:30,100
Based on the past history, what I'm looking at.

890
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:35,670
Okay. I realize I'm nitpicking, but that's okay. I just,

891
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,070
I just.

892
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,700
Want to get the thinking. I want to look at

893
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:41,030
the budget to make sure.

894
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:43,200
That I understand it. One.

895
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:46,570
And, and I understand the health insurance. There's not much

896
00:40:46,570 --> 00:40:47,370
you can do about that.

897
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,430
Understand, a lot of the other things that.

898
00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:53,230
That I know, but water and sewer.

899
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,830
You know,

900
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:58,100
on you mentioned.

901
00:40:59,070 --> 00:40:59,970
Solar for electrical.

902
00:41:01,370 --> 00:41:03,100
How does that apply to this budget?

903
00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:07,100
It won't apply to this budget.

904
00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:11,100
Mm-hmm , it may apply to our residents budgets personally,

905
00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:14,030
as we go forward when we have recommendations. So if

906
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:15,700
there's a savings that we can apply.

907
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,000
And let's and don't hold me to these numbers.

908
00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:22,800
But I'm just saying figuratively, let's say you're your monthly

909
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:26,030
electric electricity bill is a hundred dollars a month.

910
00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:29,200
And if we now have that as part of the

911
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:31,030
umbrella of under the town's.

912
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:34,700
Town's solar solar system or, or solar.

913
00:41:35,630 --> 00:41:38,670
Solar ecosystem, not solar system. Well, the planets, but you

914
00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:39,030
get the gist.

915
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,830
Then we could look at that and say, okay, if

916
00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:43,600
we could half that.

917
00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:47,200
Say you end up telling residents. Okay. If you had

918
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,770
a one bedroom.

919
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,470
One bedroom unit, your electrical bill will now be $50

920
00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:51,970
a month.

921
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,600
And then we'll put that into a sinking fund to

922
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,030
help us.

923
00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:57,830
On the capital expense, or if you had a two

924
00:41:57,830 --> 00:42:00,030
bedroom unit, let's say it's 70 bucks a month or

925
00:42:00,030 --> 00:42:00,270
something.

926
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,230
Something along those lines because of it'll be a significant

927
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,830
savings of what they're currently paying for their electrical bills.

928
00:42:07,630 --> 00:42:09,200
So that may be a benefit to our residents.

929
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,700
Residents when we get to that point, but we can't,

930
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:13,930
we don't want to book it right now cuz we're

931
00:42:13,930 --> 00:42:14,230
not sure.

932
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:16,970
What that number looks like. Understood.

933
00:42:17,970 --> 00:42:20,000
But I think it's a, it's, it'll be a, it'll

934
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,100
be a future discussion, but.

935
00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:24,430
So one to understand that. So there may be a

936
00:42:24,430 --> 00:42:26,830
savings later this year that we could come forward with

937
00:42:26,830 --> 00:42:29,000
and say, you know, we can take this all under

938
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,970
the umbrella of the town.

939
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:31,970
Town's electrical pattern and

940
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,430
our residents could look at us savings in their own

941
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:37,030
personal individual budgets, but we just need to figure out

942
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:37,970
what that number looks like.

943
00:42:38,770 --> 00:42:40,930
I understand. Thank you. Yep. Thanks for the questions.

944
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:45,030
Questions, any other questions?

945
00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:49,100
Questions. I okay. I just wanted to point out that

946
00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:49,500
the.

947
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:52,500
The loan for the kitchens.

948
00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:54,230
Kitchens that is

949
00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:58,930
done in two years. Is that correct? Yes. So then.

950
00:43:00,230 --> 00:43:04,200
Maybe that would open up an opportunity to look for

951
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:06,230
another loan to, to finance.

952
00:43:07,070 --> 00:43:10,230
Some big project or you would just transfer into a

953
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:13,670
savings yeah. Over in the budget overall. Yeah, we could,

954
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:15,000
we could. Thanks.

955
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:16,770
Mr maser for that question. It's.

956
00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:19,430
That's a very good observation. And I think we could

957
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:19,930
look at that.

958
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Either as a savings or something, we could book for

959
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,230
our reserves as wealth.

960
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,430
In the future, but it wouldn't be as great. We

961
00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:28,800
could, we could reduce that somewhat, but also.

962
00:43:29,930 --> 00:43:30,700
Let's just say

963
00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:34,830
improve our, our savings account in the event that we

964
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:37,000
had to do new sightings or roofing or windows.

965
00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:39,770
Or all the above at some point.

966
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,300
Because I remember when capital reserve was a little healthier,

967
00:43:43,470 --> 00:43:45,970
so that would be good. Yep. So we, we need

968
00:43:45,970 --> 00:43:46,930
to get there. .

969
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:50,570
I just have one thing to say. Yep.

970
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,470
I think that the information that's been put together here

971
00:43:55,570 --> 00:43:58,500
is, is excellent. And I think that we have to

972
00:43:58,770 --> 00:43:59,470
remember when we talk.

973
00:44:00,030 --> 00:44:02,070
About increases and what's happened in the last three or

974
00:44:02,070 --> 00:44:04,970
four years in terms of all of the increases that

975
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:05,500
we've seen.

976
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,570
In housing, which is why it's so difficult to get

977
00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:10,930
to affording affordable housing.

978
00:44:11,830 --> 00:44:15,300
We're talking about 30 units here and it's a lot

979
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:17,470
of real estate. It's a lot of.

980
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:20,470
It's a lot of things that could potentially go wrong.

981
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:22,800
It's a lot of driveways. It's a lot of garages.

982
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,430
It's a lot of kitchens. It's a lot of.

983
00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:25,970
Everything and

984
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:29,270
to me.

985
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,030
Just with seeing what's happened over the last few years.

986
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,370
The increases in the proposed.

987
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:38,200
Expenses that have been put together here.

988
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:40,100
Are prudent.

989
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,470
Again for 30 units.

990
00:44:45,370 --> 00:44:47,800
So thank you for your work. Thanks Ms. Eel.

991
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:51,600
Any other comments on the proposed budget?

992
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,300
Okay, can I entertain a motion for the.

993
00:44:55,570 --> 00:44:57,430
Proposed budget is presented by the town manager.

994
00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:02,230
I moved to accept the budget for the coming year

995
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:03,970
as proposed by the town manager.

996
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Second second, second. .

997
00:45:09,970 --> 00:45:11,570
Any, any further discussion?

998
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:14,830
All in favor.

999
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:17,700
Opposed.

1000
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Okay. All right. So

1001
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,300
at this point in time, we will.

1002
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,600
Start the discussion for the rent increase.

1003
00:45:27,930 --> 00:45:31,100
Any other further print comments around the rate rent increase.

1004
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:32,800
I think you also wanted a.

1005
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:37,800
Motion to approve the rate increase. Yeah, that's what we're

1006
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,830
starting right now. So any, any further discussions on the

1007
00:45:39,830 --> 00:45:40,930
renting proposed rent increase?

1008
00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:43,700
Yeah, that too high, but that's all right.

1009
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,200
I will move acceptance of the manager's.

1010
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,300
Manager's manager suggestion of a 4% increase. Okay. Do I

1011
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:53,770
have a second?

1012
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,930
Second. Okay. Any further discussion?

1013
00:45:58,070 --> 00:45:59,370
Okay. All in favor.

1014
00:46:01,870 --> 00:46:02,430
Unanimous.

1015
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:07,070
Okay. So now we are to general public comment.

1016
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,430
Anything else you would like to say that we haven't

1017
00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:13,030
gone over today so far and Mr. Veil, thank you

1018
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:13,830
so much for.

1019
00:46:15,070 --> 00:46:17,030
This wonderful service. We're bringing the mic around. I appreciate

1020
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:22,270
that. no swearing. I, Mr. Styles, classmate.

1021
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,430
Yeah, college classmate of mine.

1022
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,970
On the issue of

1023
00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:30,300
cleaning the

1024
00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:32,930
the heating.

1025
00:46:33,970 --> 00:46:36,270
Units for the gas. It's a great.

1026
00:46:37,630 --> 00:46:39,930
It's I think it's just great. They get cleaned.

1027
00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:43,300
And there was a time when.

1028
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,030
The lawnmower people hit.

1029
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:48,370
Hit one and rich.

1030
00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:52,270
His and rich called in and we had, we had

1031
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:56,600
to evacuate our places and stand outside and couldn't even

1032
00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:57,030
go back.

1033
00:46:57,570 --> 00:47:00,930
In and get our jewelry box or our pocket, our

1034
00:47:00,930 --> 00:47:01,600
pocket books.

1035
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,500
Pocketbooks. And it was very scary. And tho tho it

1036
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,930
makes me feel very good to know that those gas

1037
00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:10,370
units are being serviced.

1038
00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:12,200
Serviced. I look at that little.

1039
00:47:13,170 --> 00:47:15,030
Gas unit on the back of the building.

1040
00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:18,700
And it just is a big comfort to know money's

1041
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,770
being spent to clean that up.

1042
00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:25,100
thank you.

1043
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,670
Again, if you could say your name and what I

1044
00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:32,030
know where you're from, but there are people on TV

1045
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:34,030
that may just be tuning in. They would.

1046
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:37,070
Love to know who you are. Hi, Nancy. Hussie again.

1047
00:47:37,770 --> 00:47:40,500
I wonder if it's possible to replace the battery.

1048
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,600
In the thermostats.

1049
00:47:43,630 --> 00:47:46,970
Thermostats when they come in and do the other batteries.

1050
00:47:47,830 --> 00:47:50,670
For the smoke alarms. I had to call Tom out

1051
00:47:50,770 --> 00:47:51,570
this past winter.

1052
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,770
Because I didn't know how to change them. and

1053
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:56,930
I had no heat and God bless them. He came.

1054
00:47:57,770 --> 00:48:00,030
But I hated bringing him out to do it. And

1055
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:02,100
I just wondered if it could be on a cycle.

1056
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:05,930
And it just do it when the other batteries are

1057
00:48:05,930 --> 00:48:08,030
done. That's a, that's a great suggestion. I see that

1058
00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:10,670
Christina's typing and Chris's writing. So I think that's.

1059
00:48:11,470 --> 00:48:13,230
That's something we can we'll make note of that. That's

1060
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:15,200
a good idea. Great suggestion. I know you have a

1061
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,230
big budget for batteries. we do. We had a

1062
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:18,970
couple of double ass.

1063
00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:20,930
A's hanging around. .

1064
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,770
Any other public comment.

1065
00:48:30,430 --> 00:48:30,700
Oh,

1066
00:48:31,630 --> 00:48:32,000
Mr veil.

1067
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,500
Two carpets. The lions club has a.

1068
00:48:38,370 --> 00:48:42,670
A committee for community service and, you know, we might

1069
00:48:42,670 --> 00:48:43,830
not be outta line to.

1070
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,500
Engage with the lions club and spend, you know, a

1071
00:48:47,770 --> 00:48:48,230
Saturday afternoon.

1072
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:51,430
Down at Hawthorne court and, and, you know,

1073
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,670
going through everybody's units and, and, you know, helping out

1074
00:48:54,670 --> 00:48:55,670
with whatever.

1075
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,030
Things they might need.

1076
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:59,970
Might be time well spent for everybody.

1077
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,270
On another note, we talked about bill. I, I, I

1078
00:49:04,270 --> 00:49:04,930
wanted to follow this.

1079
00:49:05,970 --> 00:49:08,230
We talk about maintenance on a, on a gas.

1080
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,070
Heaters and stuff like that. We have a gas tank

1081
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:12,030
up on the hill here.

1082
00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:16,230
And we're about ready to expand that gas tank.

1083
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,470
To double the size and it never.

1084
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:20,600
Goes empty.

1085
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,000
So just think about filling up your car.

1086
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,500
And, and you don't have to refill it.

1087
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:28,700
Eh, the price is

1088
00:49:29,570 --> 00:49:32,370
fixed the cost of the filling of gas tank will

1089
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:33,600
never go up.

1090
00:49:34,930 --> 00:49:37,030
So one of the things that we are gonna explore

1091
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:39,930
over the next year, once we have the, the, the

1092
00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:42,070
solar, the additional solar panels online.

1093
00:49:43,070 --> 00:49:44,370
Is what the capacity is.

1094
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:48,030
And so one of the things we're, we're thinking about

1095
00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:48,200
doing.

1096
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,830
Has converting the heating systems.

1097
00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:55,830
I honor Hawthorne court to heat pumps, electrical. So.

1098
00:49:57,370 --> 00:49:59,570
He had gained two things. One, you don't have to

1099
00:49:59,570 --> 00:50:01,370
worry about the cost of the fuel oil or the

1100
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,430
gas fluctuating.

1101
00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:05,070
It's it's a fixed cost, you know?

1102
00:50:05,930 --> 00:50:07,770
We, what we do have to partake in account is

1103
00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:11,830
the, the upfront cost, the capital cost of, of changing

1104
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:14,030
the equipment. But it's it.

1105
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:16,930
It's it's an opportunity for the town to.

1106
00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:21,770
Provide not only in, in Hawthorne court, but in all

1107
00:50:21,770 --> 00:50:25,470
of our buildings that are municipally owned, as you know,

1108
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,770
equipment wears out, replacing it with heat, pumps that heat

1109
00:50:29,830 --> 00:50:32,430
and cool. And, and the energy to run it is

1110
00:50:32,430 --> 00:50:34,030
provided by our, our solar farm.

1111
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:34,800
So I think

1112
00:50:37,370 --> 00:50:40,800
you know, just making note of one other thing, the

1113
00:50:40,830 --> 00:50:42,830
idea of, of, you know, in the old days, when

1114
00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:44,700
you had an oil burner, you could get it up

1115
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:45,070
and running.

1116
00:50:45,770 --> 00:50:49,300
With a $3 part, you know, those days are gone.

1117
00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:52,230
It's, you know, a service call is a thousand dollars

1118
00:50:52,270 --> 00:50:53,200
today. It's.

1119
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:55,200
It's, you know, it's

1120
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:58,470
it's it's a complexities of the, the, the.

1121
00:51:00,070 --> 00:51:02,070
All the switching gear and, and the, the.

1122
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:04,700
Electronics it's

1123
00:51:05,570 --> 00:51:07,030
it's it's it's serious money. So.

1124
00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:10,570
I support the, the path that we're headed and the

1125
00:51:10,570 --> 00:51:11,000
maintenance.

1126
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:14,800
Yes. I, I do cringe at that $40,000 too. But.

1127
00:51:16,830 --> 00:51:19,230
I think we can we'll we'll work towards.

1128
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:21,770
Towards transferring over to heat pumps.

1129
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:26,670
Pumps. Thank you, Bob. Thank you.

1130
00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:28,500
Any other public comment.

1131
00:51:31,930 --> 00:51:35,030
Anything else from you, Mr. Manager, Mr. Mr. Bock or

1132
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:35,270
Christina?

1133
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,270
The town rests, Mr. Chairman. Okay, great. Any other bird

1134
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,470
board comments before we ask for AOR?

1135
00:51:43,630 --> 00:51:45,430
Okay. I have a motion to Ajo. Do we need

1136
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:48,670
to set a new, another meeting date or we be

1137
00:51:48,670 --> 00:51:49,800
leaving up to Christine.

1138
00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:54,100
What is your favor?

1139
00:51:55,070 --> 00:51:57,700
What is my favorite mm-hmm I like dealing with

1140
00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:01,570
her I, I think she is so darn efficient.

1141
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:03,030
I think it would really great to leave it.

1142
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:05,000
In her capable hands .

1143
00:52:05,770 --> 00:52:07,030
Cuz, you know, if I schedule the meeting, I'll be

1144
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:08,270
late to it. .

1145
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:14,030
So this move we adjourn. Can I have a second?

1146
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:15,700
Second.

1147
00:52:17,170 --> 00:52:17,600
Hey, all in favor.

1148
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:20,930
Okay. It's NIS. Meaning is over.

1149
00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:23,930
Thank you all for coming. Really? It's great to see

1150
00:52:23,930 --> 00:52:24,030
you all.