1 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,479 All right, please. 2 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:07,440 I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 3 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:14,919 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 4 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:14,919 justice for all. 5 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:21,919 » Council President >> here. 6 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,479 » Council Vice President Michael >> here. 7 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,879 » Council member Joerger >> here. 8 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:31,199 » Council member Ed >> here. 9 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:35,360 » Council member Andy here. >> Okay. Next up on the agenda is the uh 10 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:40,839 consent agenda. register 11 00:08:37,839 --> 00:08:40,839 sanuss 12 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:07,360 » no we um we do the payroll in house now which you're not 13 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:13,519 those because those are all usually processed through paycheck 14 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:17,880 but we've taken that um inhouse with the so we made those payments ourselves 15 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:25,080 » yes it is the that is the security 16 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,680 » okay anybody else have any questions on the 17 00:09:34,959 --> 00:09:41,600 So second I have a motion and second 18 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:50,040 additional discussion. All those in favor signify by saying I 19 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:50,040 otherwise have citizen comments 20 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:59,360 staff reports. Captain sir good shiny. Thank you very much for you. 21 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:04,560 » Thank you. Uh we had some recent staff changes which opened a super supervisory 22 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:09,040 position for night shift. After a small in-house 23 00:10:06,959 --> 00:10:14,720 application process, we have appointed John Hartley as a sergeant for B nights, 24 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:20,399 not to be confused with Landon Harley, who is already a sergeant on Bdays. So, 25 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,519 we're excited for him and he's getting started with some of that supervisory 26 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,600 training. Now, some of our officers participated in the 27 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:32,079 street racers detail with IP and state police back on August 21st. 28 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:34,880 Uh that's through grant money through the state. Those kind of spinners, those 29 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:40,880 vehicles that take over the intersections. During that, our one of 30 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:44,560 our officers spotted a reckless vehicle, stopped him. We were able to get a 31 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,640 serious violent felon in possession of a firearm off the street as well as a 32 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,399 driving arrest that was actually very close to town. 33 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:57,519 We've had a couple of recent breakins and thefts around Arthur overton that 34 00:10:54,959 --> 00:11:01,040 area. We have a couple leads that we're following up on trying to see if we can 35 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:04,560 gather out of that. We did have a firearm that stolen out of that. So, 36 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:09,920 obviously that's kind of important for us to try to get back. We picked up our 37 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:14,959 Polaris Ranger today. Um it was outside if anybody wants to do that. We have to 38 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:19,200 get decals down still and then we're going to incorporate that into our 39 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:22,399 driving training that will be coming up. Speaking of that, we have driving 40 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:25,839 training later this month at the Marian County Fairgrounds. We've started a 41 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:29,680 partnership with them and using some of their grounds they have when it's 42 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,480 nobody's there. So that's very helpful that it's a nice large space. There's 43 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:36,399 several different structures that we can use kind of elevate our training a 44 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,560 little bit. We did stops which is traffic stops training there a couple 45 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:48,000 weeks ago. Um got a lot of positive feedback from that. use our simulation 46 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:51,760 firearms and Sergeant Landon Hartley conducted that training for us and again 47 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:56,320 we got a lot of good feedback from our officers saying they liked it. So 48 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,640 trailer retreat coming up on October 17th 3 to 5 49 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:06,639 and chief wanted to mention that we are coming up on the 25th anniversary of the 50 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:11,959 terrorist attacks on September 11. >> That's all I 51 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:11,959 appreciate. 52 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:20,160 We uh been digging into insurance both on the benefits and liability side quite 53 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:26,560 a quite a bit. Um we get benefits meeting earlier with a somewhat quite 54 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:31,120 trivial things. We're have a little bit of a tough year but we 55 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:34,800 have some ideas on changes that will help that out for next year. On the 56 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,120 liability side since we changed brokerage we've probably been meeting 57 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:44,320 with Epic talking or meeting about times a week. 58 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:48,800 We found a lot there to make changes on pretty significant got feedback. Not the 59 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:55,440 worst I've seen. So that's that's a good good bar. But we are going to try to 60 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:59,760 rewrite go to 111 with our liability insurance the same way we do with our 61 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:07,440 health insurance on the same term. So everything was up beginning of the year. 62 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:15,279 Um separately uh from that uh the Indiana School Management Association 63 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:19,519 uh is awarding the town an award at the leadership lunchon they have for 64 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,800 professional management leadership community partner award. I am the 65 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:27,279 president of that board. I want to be on record that I did not nominate 66 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:32,880 that look questionable and the president 67 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:38,000 boards getting award. So they they select Cumberland for 68 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:44,560 promoting professional management of government in the state of Indiana. 69 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:49,600 Then also December chamber chooses four communities from the nine county region 70 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:54,480 to highlight and spotlight every year. So beginning of December, they are going 71 00:13:52,079 --> 00:14:01,040 to do spotlight on County Cumberland for their fourth quarter event here at town 72 00:13:57,519 --> 00:14:05,519 hall, but it's a ticketed event that the chamber puts on. So they're going to 73 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:10,959 probably bring in some extra chairs and things for that. We are allowed to 74 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:14,480 reserve x amount of tickets for those that want to attend from our 75 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:20,639 organization. That will be right before as well as 76 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,639 couple days before that. 77 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:27,120 pretty pretty excited about that. We're getting somewhat of a regional 78 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:31,920 recognition on the current initiatives right now. Then Christine and her staff 79 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:36,560 been working with the businesses. They had the sunflower festival over the 80 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:39,560 weekend. We got really good feedback on that. 81 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,440 All the residents that attended all 82 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:56,839 Thank you, sir. Public hearing additional 83 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:56,839 appropriations. Is that correct? 84 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,680 Open the public hearing. 85 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:13,120 Close the public hearing on appropriations. 86 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:18,079 Okay. Old business consideration ordinance 20269. 87 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:21,240 Sir, you're ahead of you right now. You're fine. 88 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:31,040 » Good afternoon. Um, this is ordinance 126-9. Um, it was introduced at the last 89 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:36,000 council meeting. So, I'll be brief. Uh, this ordinance is up for vote today. It 90 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:42,680 is an ordinance appropriating additional funds to the budget of the county 91 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,680 with a grand total to7,000. 92 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,560 I will be happy to answer any questions. 93 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:09,320 Motion that we approve amendment 2026. 94 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:25,120 » Have a motion second. Additional discussion. All those in favor signify 95 00:16:20,959 --> 00:16:31,040 by saying I. I. I. Thank you so much. Thank you. 96 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:40,279 Okay, we have a public hearing for NX 5821 and 5823 West US40. I'll open the 97 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,279 public hearing for that. 98 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:53,279 See [snorts] comments I'll close the public hearing 99 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:59,040 business in the ordinance 2026-10 properties. Miss 100 00:16:55,839 --> 00:17:03,199 » Thank you. Um this is the ordinance uh introduction for the annexation of the 101 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,039 property that we just told you about hearing on. This is just for 102 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:11,760 introduction this evening. Just to refresh your memory, this property is 103 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:16,480 where houses and the industrial 104 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:25,000 just buying it. So one of the lots is already in town while the area next in 105 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,000 town and so two lots 106 00:17:25,199 --> 00:17:32,120 of impact essentially >> correct. 107 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,960 All right. Any questions, comments? This only for only this evening. 108 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:56,080 All right. Number two, consideration resolution 2026-09. 109 00:17:54,160 --> 00:18:01,600 » Yes. Um, so this is the resolution that adopts the fiscal plan for the laws that 110 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:06,960 we just discussed. These are existing buildings. There's no proposed 111 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:09,987 improvements on it. Um, so it's very minimal. [snorts] 112 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:14,160 Any questions? All 113 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:29,400 right. Any questions? This is an actual resolution. 114 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:42,520 Resolution 26-09. 115 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:55,039 I have a motion and second. Any additional discussion? 116 00:18:52,559 --> 00:19:01,280 All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Oppos. Otherwise have 117 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,919 this open. You're on a run tonight. House Bill 101, the housing audit 118 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:13,120 presentation. >> Yes. Um so I'll be brief. 119 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:17,760 Um you have a copy of report as well as the presentation that was provided to 120 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:21,679 commission in the council chair. I also added a copy of the draft minutes from 121 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:28,080 commission the other night. No one attended the public hearing. I do know 122 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:31,600 watched since then. I'm just going to highlight a couple of 123 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:37,120 things that are in the in the PowerPoint. Um so one is the findings. 124 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:43,679 There are five kind of key findings that staff found as we analyzed um the 125 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:49,120 ordinances as it relates to the house 101 those nine factors they have asked 126 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:54,960 us to look at. So over the last five years [clears throat] all of our res 127 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:59,840 that does tend to indicate to us that our ordinances are likely updated for 128 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:03,760 what is being constructed. Number two, 129 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:08,400 um none of the projects that were approved over the last five years would 130 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:12,160 actually get permitted in our R1 or R4 districts, which are single family 131 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:16,960 districts. They some of the standards would fit in 132 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:21,039 our R5 or R six, but those are multif family districts or single companies not 133 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:25,280 allowed. So, we do have some inconsistencies there. Um we do not 134 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,320 permit residential in any of our commercial districts. So when you're 135 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:32,640 talking about mixed use and some of those things, we are starting to see 136 00:20:30,159 --> 00:20:37,840 more communities include residential in some of their lower impact districts, 137 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:44,080 but we do not allow that. Our middle housing districts are where we allow the 138 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:48,720 most flexibility right now. Um, and lastly, the the typologies we have our 139 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:53,120 comprehensive plan don't line up with our zoning district. So again just 140 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:57,840 another inconsistency indicating that it's time for school amendments which as 141 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:03,120 you'll recall we have contracted with HWC to do an update to our unified 142 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:06,799 development ordinances control ordinance that's something that 143 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:13,120 has started and will be completed by the end of next year. So a lot of the nine 144 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:18,480 uh the items in that n those nine categories that we've been asked to look 145 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:22,400 at will really get analyzed deeper as part of that process and looked at. But 146 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:26,080 there are some recommendations that I just want to highlight that we'll be 147 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:32,159 looking at this year and then some of the things that we'll analyze next year. 148 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:37,919 So one is some process changes. Um the plane commission um would like to look 149 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:41,919 at establishing a plaque committee. This is a smaller board. It takes the 150 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:47,360 subdivision plat out of the plan commission to the smaller committee. Um 151 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:52,400 it allows us to be a little bit more efficient, put some timing off on there 152 00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:56,400 and it does require us to have a minimum of one commission member there and the 153 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:01,440 plan commission makes the appointment to that committee. Um it does require 154 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,880 amendments to the ordinance. So we're in the process of drafting those. Those 155 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:08,480 would be to go to P commission and then they would make recommendation to 156 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:14,000 council ultimately council will make a determination of whether or not that is 157 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:19,360 something um that you guys want to do. We're also recommending some things to 158 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,039 expedite your development plan process. Um right now we require public hearing 159 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:26,880 for that. However, under state code, we're not required to do that. So one 160 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:32,960 that requirement we think needs to be 161 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:37,520 modified. And then also um under Indiana code, the legislative body can designate 162 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:43,120 that to the commission staff. A hearing be committee or commission. So we're 163 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,960 recommending that that be a staff approval and that in fact we use our T 164 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,919 committee which is our technical advisory committee with our engineers 165 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:58,559 and department heads on it to um review those development plans. So those two 166 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:02,799 changes will allow us um to save um a couple of on each of those processes. So 167 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:07,919 ultimately we could be saving developers potentially a month if they're required 168 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:12,000 of those. Um for the zoning recommendations, one 169 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:19,120 of the things that we'll be recommending this year as part of our transition um 170 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:23,760 we'll be bringing development changes so that we have zoning districts for our 171 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Marian County properties um that we don't a lot of legal non-conforming 172 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,799 uses. And what we found is instead of a bunch of new districts. We believe we 173 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:39,520 can make some modifications to our R5 and R six zoning districts that will 174 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:43,760 solve a lot of those issues. Um that also lines up with some of those 175 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:48,320 inconsistencies I identified in our findings. So we'll be looking at 176 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:54,320 allowing single family in our five and our six and then also um modifying some 177 00:23:52,400 --> 00:24:01,360 of the speakers in there. That's something that will be coming back to PL 178 00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:06,880 council um late fall and that this year for consideration and that will put us 179 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:12,799 in a good position um as we become an excluded town January one to be able to 180 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:19,360 administer those comprehensive control ordinances um consistently on 181 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:25,120 both sides post on the entire town regardless of what county 182 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:30,320 and then um There's many items that we are asked to look at. Architectural 183 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:35,440 standards, parking, um a lot of our development standards, 184 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:41,120 um allowing different residential typologies. 185 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Those items really deserve adequate study with our comprehensive plan 186 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:51,039 nearing completion. It's going to go through the approvals process this fall. 187 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:56,480 We're preparing for this Uno transition. We have HWC under contract to update our 188 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:03,120 unified development ordinances. We think if we would be if we asked you to make 189 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:06,640 changes now, we would be reacting um to kind of a suggestion versus doing a 190 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:13,760 really good study to make sure we're being consistent with what our community 191 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:18,799 is asking us to look at and give thoughtful study of these of what the 192 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:24,080 standards should be in these districts. So, we're recommending that the 193 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:30,080 remaining items be analyzed and considered as part of our uh update to 194 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:38,799 the development board. That is a quick version of highlights of 195 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:42,000 what is in um our audit on housing. Um ultimately, I think we have some good 196 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,919 things in there with our housing, but we also do have some things that we know we 197 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:51,520 need to address and there are some opportunities for efficiency. So, um, 198 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:55,679 you're required under this new act to hold a public hearing on this, which we 199 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:59,600 did at commission reporting back to the council and then we'll report to the 200 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,600 state that we have this hearing and our findings. 201 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:11,520 » I have a couple questions. When I reviewed the PowerPoint, I did 202 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:17,760 have some concerns. very first one was on 203 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:24,080 lot sizes lot sizes that causes me concern 204 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:31,440 and I know it was also house bill that was addressed as to what type of 205 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:38,320 house it will bring the second concern was it is odd it looks like now from R1 206 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:44,080 to R4 now they're back to pushing double triplexes 207 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:48,240 that they were so against that. And the third thing, yeah, 208 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:52,720 » the market is the market is cyclical. So, if you do this long enough, as many 209 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:57,679 as of us have watched the housing market, 210 00:26:54,159 --> 00:27:02,080 » you see what is old is new again. >> Yeah. 211 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:07,679 » And so I I agree. When I first started out, you know, 25 years ago, R1 was 212 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:13,520 single family, R2 was single family, delex, R3 was single family, delex, 213 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:19,400 triplex, R4, and it went on. We got to a point where it was like all single 214 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,400 family, everything else is mult. 215 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,360 The other thing I thought was interesting was on R5, R six 216 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:33,679 » because now they're looking at rather than having industrial zone area. Now 217 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:40,080 we're shifting to able to put residential in there and doing almost a 218 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:44,320 fixed use. I found that very interest. 219 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,760 » Yeah. You know, a lot of the things you 220 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:53,600 brought up is one of the reasons why a lot of those development standards we're 221 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:58,720 recommending we take under consideration as part of our new process that to come 222 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,799 in and make a quick decision. Now, I don't feel like we're doing the 223 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:07,039 community justice. Um, we also haven't adopted the comprehensive plan yet and 224 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,880 we want to make sure whatever we adopt with our standards aligns with that 225 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:15,279 comprehensive plan. And so while these are things that we're being asked to 226 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:19,120 analyze, I think that's exactly what we need to do is analyze them and then 227 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:24,559 determine based on our community's guidance what's appropriate for us 228 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,679 » and then ultimately if this, you know, we're going to do 229 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:30,000 whatever the state requires of us, >> we'll probably have a new law by next 230 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:32,960 July anyways. >> I know that's I guess that's where I was 231 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:39,279 heading. >> Yeah. 232 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:44,159 I sit on the House Rep's summer housing committee that is carrying this 233 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:47,200 legislation now. It's not the same legislator as last year. The House 234 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,039 leadership, the governor's administration moved it to the House 235 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,039 Rep. 236 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,600 And we were having really good conversations, but then it moved back to 237 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:07,360 the national agenda after they their summer national conferences. 238 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:12,080 So it's like they get in the chamber. So I came back in really good collaborative 239 00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:17,840 space and then after they went to their summer conferences they came back to 240 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:21,200 basically 101 items. 241 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:26,120 We're trying to work more into talking about incentives and less about regular 242 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:34,470 [clears throat] 243 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,960 » I do think it's good to take it under adisement and evaluating 244 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,480 other things come spring. 245 00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:56,080 And when it comes to like a lot size concern, there's lot size, there's 246 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:59,440 density, there's also form based code which gets away from those things, but 247 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:04,000 it has other standards in place to get to what you want design. So it's 248 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,080 important that we look at this comprehensively from all those different 249 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,880 angles to figure out what's best for our community instead of just automatically 250 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:18,240 like check something like let's do. So I'm 251 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:22,360 not These things are necessary things we should do. These are things that 252 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,120 » Thank you so much, 253 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:42,919 » Mr. Consideration of 2026 254 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,919 radio and ramp ADA analysis. 255 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,880 That's okay. 256 00:30:58,256 --> 00:31:00,276 [clears throat] 257 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Analysis. 258 00:31:10,701 --> 00:31:17,880 [clears throat] The agreement is for 21,000 259 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:30,679 exceed 21,000 [clears throat] walk down rail sidewalks on a five scale 260 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,679 similar to scale 261 00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:38,120 also analysis as well. 262 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:45,840 happy answer any questions you have on >> and when I read it I was thinking it was 263 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,840 a lot more subjective than what it was they have some decent standard on how 264 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,840 they scale correct >> yes 265 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:59,799 what the characteristics of each number 266 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:08,399 » there's a national engineering standard for the sidewalk analysis similar to 267 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,320 phaser A lot of people 268 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:20,399 think it's a little bit more subjective. I forced these two to do a class 269 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:24,360 recently. So really on how those things actually are 270 00:32:36,159 --> 00:32:46,200 » contract Do I have any questions? 271 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,200 » 21,000 is not to exceed. 272 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,760 » I was just going to say it sounds expensive to me when it's done as to 273 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:02,000 what what they find. It's been about 15 years since we've done a complete town 274 00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:09,679 to we've been working that entire time year about 60,000 or so you guys budget 275 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:16,039 sidewalks but it's really time for an update so we can refocus 276 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,039 those projects 277 00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:24,240 contract. 278 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:34,880 Will they break will they break down just general 279 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:42,120 repairs versus ADA um deficiency [clears throat] or 280 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,120 deficiencies in the ADA 281 00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:49,120 reports? >> Well, it's all going to be rated within 282 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:54,240 our GIS system the same way we do. that five analysis will be on there, but 283 00:33:52,000 --> 00:34:00,399 those numbers like on ADA will trip specific stuff like will be a priority 284 00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:05,120 one to do. Um, but you you have your condition deterioration and things in 285 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:09,440 that because that all turns into ADA is considered because 286 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:13,839 a tripping hazard cracking those type of things. So, it's 287 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:19,560 all through the lens of ADA and then severity. 288 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,560 like a general repair 289 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:28,720 because that will become at some point probably a trip or hazard 290 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:35,599 » bottom line we're completed the audit now the audit 291 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:41,200 audit >> yeah we're completing it right now as 292 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:46,159 long as we have an annual plan we're making progress towards ABA that 293 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,159 we 294 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:57,520 But how long will this take? >> I don't know when it'll probably 295 00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:00,520 four weeks and then we'll probably administration. 296 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,079 This is an action. 297 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,520 We approve the 298 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960 contract 299 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:44,839 $21,000 about 15 $21,000 and the timing 300 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,839 and sign 301 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:54,640 motion is second compensation. All those in favor signify by saying I I 302 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,680 » no eyes out. Thank you, 303 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:01,240 » Mr. Lips. Looks like the rest of the evening is yours. 304 00:36:01,525 --> 00:36:03,545 [clears throat] 305 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:18,160 » First before you use ordinance 2026-11. This would add several definitions to 306 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:24,480 your code as well as some fines and a lot of roadway and trail regulations. 307 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:29,599 driver for this has been a lot of calls and complaints about post calls, kids on 308 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:34,480 scooters, emotives, things like that, trails, neighborhoods, post calls on 309 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:40,079 trails, post calls in the neighborhood. Kind of defines that. It's not uh 310 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,240 procluding like your typical ebikes, things like that. It's more focused on 311 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:49,119 some of the emotives and making sure people that are driving on our roadways, 312 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,119 that are experienced drivers train to drive 313 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:59,760 A lot of it doesn't repeal a whole lot of code other than some of the parks 314 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:04,079 code would change a little bit through this, but there's a fine section. 315 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:09,280 Otherwise, if we move forward with this, we'll add new trail signage and rule 316 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:14,560 signage entrances throughout the trail is kind of on our radar to do anyways. 317 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:20,079 Um we want to put these new regulations very clearly have entrances to 318 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:24,920 our trails. It does regulate roadways as well 319 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:33,040 enough to operate on the roadway and follow all safety regulations. See more 320 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:40,000 and more kids and I said scooters particularly ebikes just blowing 321 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:46,359 intersections and I get hit by cars. So scary stuff like that. 322 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,359 particularly wide spots of the trail 323 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:56,480 of that nature introduction tonight only. 324 00:37:52,480 --> 00:38:02,400 » You might have questions over 2026-1 did you 325 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:08,880 read a lot of other neighborhoods? >> I always research what's being done in 326 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:13,400 the area. It's pretty hot issues. So pretty much all Indiana 327 00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:16,839 recently 328 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:25,560 recently look at those based on complaint where 329 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,560 those 330 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:34,960 is just defining some regulations not really procluding 331 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,839 things entirely except for greens trails sidewalks 332 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,880 in those fines get some revenue back towards 333 00:38:44,621 --> 00:38:49,920 [snorts] >> I have a couple questions. Um, what's 334 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:55,760 the difference between multi-use trails and our greenway trails? 335 00:38:52,640 --> 00:39:00,320 » Multi-use trail would be like your perimeter trails and things like that 336 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:05,119 like you know branch corner has a trail around the outside of it that be a 337 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:09,520 multi-use trail whereas the greenways are 338 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:13,920 Py trail things are listed in there. >> Okay. 339 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:17,280 Just really don't know how somebody would be able to tell the difference 340 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:24,160 like >> but like these scooters 341 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:29,839 are allowed on sidewalks. They can go 15 or 20 miles hour. 342 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:34,720 » Yeah. >> And then I guess they're allowed on the 343 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:38,160 multiuse trails. Am I correct? 344 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:43,200 » You are correct. And some of that is to keep them out of the roadways. 345 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:48,480 So there's certain areas where you don't want them in the roadways. 346 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:54,320 Transit is a thought. So that's why most communities have gone in that direction. 347 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:59,280 I just don't know how anybody reading it could tell the difference like oh well 348 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:04,560 you know multi-use trail that's they're thinking they can get on the trail 349 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:10,160 » but and then on the sidewalks >> it it does break out um 350 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:16,160 in definitions at the top 351 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,400 » the greenway specifically being trail by trail 352 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:22,320 » yeah I saw >> multiuse 353 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:26,079 » I didn't know what the multi We use blocks. 354 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:31,599 » Yeah. It's those groups of 8 ft or wider that are not the designated water 355 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:36,960 greenway trails because typically your greenway trails are more of your large 356 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:43,520 most interconnected network whereas a lot of times your multi-use path is your 357 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:47,680 off-road pedestrian cyclist safe transit to keep people out of the roadway. 358 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,680 » Okay. >> Kind of like 359 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,680 700 or something. >> That's right. 360 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,839 » Okay. >> That's not your major recreational 361 00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:01,920 trail. It's more of your pedestrian cyclist. Don't be in the road here 362 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:09,440 preferably for >> So we put signs up or we are regular 363 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:13,920 trails and we put you know it will list like no. 364 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:18,240 » Yep. We didn't break it completely out. >> Exactly. Put everything there. We put it 365 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,839 at every entrance was one of the things I was talking with the PD about because 366 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,720 they already have some confusion. So whether you're looking at stuff already 367 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,800 because a lot of our neighborhood connectors don't have trailer rules 368 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,400 coming in. So there's some people who may never go to a trail head but use our 369 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:38,280 trips all the time. So they're not actually seeing those rules. 370 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,280 » Yeah, I think that's a good idea. 371 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:50,079 » Anybody else? >> Okay. Introduction ordinance 2026-12 372 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:54,480 policy. >> Our briement policy we've operated under 373 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:59,760 for years doesn't have a lot of clear definitions and it's been not uniformly 374 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:04,000 applied in different situations. It's an area where there's been times complaints 375 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:09,920 from supervisors and staff. So the aim of this ordinance is to clean up those 376 00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:14,000 definitions and be very clear as to um what can happen where so there's not 377 00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:20,560 debate. It also kind of tries to pull the supervisors out of it HR. So there's 378 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:25,200 less of that um just inter department struggle and face within that looked at 379 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:30,280 surrounding communities kind of what their policies are a lotments and basic 380 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:49,720 reason I like it very close rel 381 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,839 I did like that change the policy I thought that was more than fair 382 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,240 about how many comments policy. 383 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:29,520 Okay. Final ordinance 2026-13 adopting employee ethics policy. 384 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:33,680 » Yes. This would kind of take some state policies and put it into employee ethics 385 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:38,240 policy. Further define that, expand upon that. Um it's also part of transparency 386 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:44,160 initiative on different processes and takes in account historic HR complaints 387 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:48,720 other issues as we kind of gone through and finally HR a little bit more but the 388 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:54,880 goal is really just transparent government and making sure we're 389 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:58,720 practicing things ethically up and down clearly defining that to staff conflict 390 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:06,640 of interest other areas for 391 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:12,800 you did nice job on the 16 pages. I know the first four or five are on the 392 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:16,640 origins itself. I mean always to make relevant. I thought you did a 393 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,359 nice job trying to break it down different areas, different people, 394 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:24,200 different sections, different responsibilities 395 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,200 that 396 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,480 » council comments. 397 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,160 Um, I was an update on the church. Um, 398 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:56,400 specifically the way it looks like I've had people 399 00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:00,720 call me and are just appalled. >> Yeah, we've been having some 400 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:05,119 conversations about that as well. Captain about it yesterday. He's getting 401 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,839 some action with the health department going. We start communicating with the 402 00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:13,839 chief over there that's in charge of working with the health department. 403 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,040 the sheriff's office. >> So, 404 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:21,359 » are making strides on that since the fire has gotten a lot worse because 405 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:25,680 there was a fire on the western most building. It's really put a lot on the 406 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:31,200 eastern most building. We know there's some outstanding violations on current 407 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:38,680 owner and some other factors with current owner that be happy to talk with 408 00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:38,680 you guys about meeting oneonone basis. 409 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,040 Appreciate reaching out kind of getting that ball rolling because we were 410 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,880 getting a lot of calls. I know councelor is getting a lot of calls and I talked 411 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:54,560 about it seeing if they could bring resources or he could lean on the health 412 00:45:50,800 --> 00:46:00,839 department as well some of those items. >> Can the health department the one that 413 00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:00,839 burned declar 414 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,119 » they did an order today on an inspection on the other one. 415 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:12,640 They have a judge's signature for that one and I think seven or eight day 416 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,200 evacuation of everybody should be done by a certain date and if it's not then 417 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,440 we can go. >> Both of them are just 418 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,440 » both. Yes. >> Yeah. The the one that had the fire is 419 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:26,000 supposed to be empty as of now. The other one they have several days to get 420 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:31,319 out and then we can kind of enforce that with the judges signature. 421 00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:31,319 » Okay. 422 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:38,560 » Hopefully we can get them at least there. Last time I was grass to be cut 423 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:43,280 really bad. >> I highly doubt [clears throat] 424 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,480 » that is something that we need to get on to Mar County about 425 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:57,839 » we have leans and the city has leans and it's headed towards 426 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:01,920 » it like Indianapolis needs to cut it you know somebody needs to cut it clean up 427 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,280 trash >> I think the tax bills 428 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:22,599 I don't think she's trying aggressively to sell right 429 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,599 now. 430 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,440 She's trying to sell 431 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,359 in order to sell it. 432 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:39,960 » So when 27 something like that. We can deal with 433 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,960 that. 434 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:46,000 » Yeah. We can give them a certain amount of 435 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:50,359 time. They don't get it done. We can cut it and put on it. 436 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:50,359 » Yeah. 437 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,400 That's a good thing. 438 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,599 » Just finished building cracks yesterday. >> Excellent. 439 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,000 Okay. So then the paint later 440 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:38,400 color something else. >> We got blue. It's not perfect match for 441 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:45,359 the majority of the go and paint white stripes back over 442 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:50,240 the blue. >> Uh then 443 00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:55,920 I talked to The most common thing I probably wasn't about criminal justice 444 00:48:53,040 --> 00:49:00,319 stuff was about trash. We got that worked out January 1. Everybody's 445 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:04,000 garbage sitting in their driveway. We have Marian County worked out with the 446 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:10,760 city. They're still under contract for additional two years. We have the 447 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,760 documents out 448 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:22,559 back with them. If not, my recommendation was going 449 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:26,119 at the end of that contract term both sides. 450 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:32,280 » That's not unless we do a separate 451 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,640 expand. 452 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,559 might 453 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:47,839 » um I don't think we'll know something like that until November. 454 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:52,559 So it's it's difficult with administration changes and a lot of 455 00:49:49,920 --> 00:50:00,200 department has also turned over the past six months not just the mayor's office. 456 00:49:56,319 --> 00:50:00,200 a lot of people working 457 00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:10,280 office pretty much every single department. 458 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,640 » Do you think anybody else? 459 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:28,240 » All right. >> You're going to have Everything that was 460 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,240 introduced tonight by budget introduction 461 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,240 public hearing the second 462 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160 sustainability 463 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,640 We have lots of spreadsheets that 464 00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:00,839 do 465 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,640 You know, >> keep Julia