1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Where you going? >> Good afternoon everyone and welcome to 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:12,520 our special council meeting of Tuesday, August 25th, 2026. I will now call the 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:16,600 meeting to order and acknowledge that we are in Migmagi, the ancestral and seated 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,000 territory of the Migmagi people. Uh administrative and procedural issues 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,440 for today, 2.1 is approval of the agenda. The recommended motion is that 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:29,080 the agenda be approved as presented. If we could use our raise our hands for 7 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:34,480 today, um moved by Councillor Lockhart, seconded by Deputy Mayor Ghoul. All 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,480 those in favor, raise your hand. 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Motion's carried. Thank you very much. Um 2.2, uh I will direct your attention 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,280 to the municipal conflict of interest act and uh requ- as you were required to 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,320 declare conflict of interest prior to any discussion on the matter. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Three, organizational policy and bylaw items. 3.1 is first reading of the bylaw 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:02,000 to amend the LUB 26-11, temporary pause on accepting AI data 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:06,880 center development permit applications. Mr. Harid, I'll give you the floor. 15 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:12,240 » Thank you, Your Worship. Um the actual uh item for for council's um 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,160 consideration is is pretty brief. I I just want to take a 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:20,440 couple of minutes though to uh reiterate, explain, and emphasize the 18 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:25,320 reason for today's meeting and and the reasoning behind it being a virtual 19 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:30,000 meeting and um the the the time that was the selected. Um because there are lots 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:34,560 of conversations out there, even some of amongst um members of council about um 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,680 exactly what we're doing and I think it's important that members of the 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:43,520 public understand that, too. So, today um is the very first uh meeting Today's 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:48,240 meeting is very first in the process of council uh considering putting 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:52,280 regulations in place to uh specific to AI data centers. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,840 The only purpose of the bylaw amendment that's before you today is to implement 26 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,680 a pause for 6 months for receiving and processing 27 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,280 uh at potential applications for development permits related to these 28 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,320 facilities while staff and the consultants who are working on our 29 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:11,920 comprehensive, mind you, bylaw and municipal planning strategy review 30 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:17,320 uh do the work they need to bring these um regulations forward. 31 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Um as most of you know, as folks on council 32 00:02:19,959 --> 00:02:26,959 would know and and perhaps members of the public don't, um the process today 33 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:32,760 after first reading, uh there will be a if if council is so inclined to approve 34 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:36,400 the motion that's before you, the um uh first reading and notice of intent 35 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:40,120 will be approved and then we'll proceed to schedule public hearing uh in the 36 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:45,200 council chambers in Upper Tantallon sometime in September where members of 37 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:48,959 the public will be welcomed to come and um 38 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:54,200 um take part in the public hearing and uh provide and share their 39 00:02:51,200 --> 00:03:00,880 um their opinions and their concerns um with council and members of the public. 40 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:04,800 After that public hearing, um there would be a a 41 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:10,000 another period of a few days or a few weeks and council would then consider 42 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:16,120 second reading of the bylaw. If that second reading were approved, then um 43 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:21,400 the moratorium would be in place. The pause on accepting applications, 44 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:26,880 which is a moratorium, would be in place uh for 6 months while this 45 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:31,600 work goes on in the background. After today's first reading, if council 46 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:36,360 approves first reading today, um we will staff of the municipality 47 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:41,760 will be precluded from accepting and processing any um applications for 48 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,440 development permit relative to these sorts of facilities. 49 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:49,640 Hopefully those comments give folks some comfort in terms of what's going on and 50 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,960 what process is. Today is just about the pause, just 51 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:58,280 about the moratorium. There is more work to do and it will be 52 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,880 ongoing as part of the larger review that's been going on now for about a 53 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,280 year. Um 54 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:09,920 and when those regulations come forward as part of the bigger package, again, 55 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,920 there will be a separate process where there will be a first reading like 56 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,000 today, although it will take much, much longer because it'll be a much larger 57 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,320 document. Um 58 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:23,760 those documents will be available to the public. There will be another public 59 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:28,680 hearing, um at least one, um for folks to be able to 60 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:34,280 express their opinions and understand the issues. And then council again, um 61 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:39,800 will go through second reading and and um 62 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,800 final final approval. 63 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,800 Um we're putting a 6-month we're proposing 64 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:50,600 to put a 6-month pause on accepting these applications. 65 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:56,120 If the work the larger the work, the wider work on 66 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:59,360 the land use bylaw, regulate uh bylaw and the municipal planning 67 00:04:57,919 --> 00:05:02,360 strategy for some reason takes longer than 6 68 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:08,240 months, council at the time can reconvene and 69 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:14,120 consider whether another 6-month extension to this 70 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:18,800 moratorium or pause is appropriate. Um our our legal counsel has advised us 71 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:23,640 that in in situations like these, that that 72 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:29,360 process is a reasonable one and and reasonability is key in 73 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:34,960 uh ensuring that uh we do this right and then we do this with all due regard for 74 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:42,000 uh for process. Um some conversation about um 75 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:45,040 having this meeting online rather than in person. So, two things to say about 76 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,320 that. This is um 77 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:54,200 notice of intent first reading. Again, as I described, there's there two more 78 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,720 steps in this process alone. This 79 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,600 if it weren't for me talking forever, this would be an exceedingly uh short 80 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,360 meeting because there's just there's just one item. So, 81 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:10,360 the decision was taken to have it virtually rather than have um 82 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:13,720 nine members council uh drive in from from all parts of the municipality for a 83 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,360 20-minute meeting. Um 84 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:20,760 that was the first consideration. The second consideration is one of 85 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:25,919 timeliness. Once council, to reiterate, once council 86 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:30,720 approves first reading, if they do, then we are precluded from processing these 87 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:35,880 sorts of applications if they if they come. So, it was incumbent upon us to 88 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:40,800 have this meeting as early on the calendar as we could so that more pages 89 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,760 didn't flip on the calendar and more opportunities for these sorts of 90 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:50,040 applications um to be 91 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,040 received would occur. 92 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,840 Really clearly, though, I'm just about done. 93 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:58,280 Really clearly, um 94 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:06,640 we at this point are not uh in receipt of any sorts of um 95 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:13,000 uh inquiries. We are not aware um of potential 96 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:18,760 applications. Our staff are not engaged with anyone kicking the tires about an 97 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:24,760 application. This is simply a proactive action by this council 98 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,720 based on the fact that um there are concerns in the community about these 99 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,240 sorts of facilities and um 100 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,880 council wanted to get ahead of ahead of the issue. 101 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,160 So, with that as a background, 102 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:45,120 I don't think I forgot anything. With that as a background, 103 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:50,480 uh, the item before you is a bylaw to amend the land use bylaw. 104 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,560 Uh, as I stated earlier, members of council 105 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,680 were hearing significant degree of community-based concern regarding 106 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,360 potential development of AI data centers. 107 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:06,120 And, um, wish to complete the ongoing 108 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:10,840 comprehensive review of the MPS and LUB before potentially having to consider 109 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:15,640 any such application. So, creating some space and time 110 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:20,080 um, to get the regulations in place before 111 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:24,240 any potential and applications come forward. 112 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Back in June, June seems like so long ago. 113 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,960 Back in June, uh, council directed staff to provide 114 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:36,000 information on the mechanics of implementing a moratorium uh, on 115 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,760 accepting applications for AI data centers. 116 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,479 Uh, those of us who are those of you, sorry, 117 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:46,040 I wasn't on council. Those of you who were on council, um, 118 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,960 the previous council will recall the process we followed to put in place a 119 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:55,520 moratorium on wind turbine development while council considered the setback 120 00:08:53,200 --> 00:09:00,040 requirements and related regulations, um, relative to wind turbine, um, 121 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:06,480 development. This process is very similar, um, to 122 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:11,200 that process. In fact, it's exactly the same. Change the names, it's it's 123 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:16,440 exactly the same. Now, in terms of any financial 124 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:19,360 implications to to, um, uh, making this decision, at this point 125 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,240 there are there aren't any identified. I suppose 126 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:26,760 for the sake of completeness, we should say that, 127 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:31,560 um, putting the the moratorium or the pause in place perhaps has a a negative 128 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:36,040 or potential negative impact on the fine future revenues. It's undefined, but for 129 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:40,840 the sake of completeness, we're just, um, 130 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:45,320 we're just uh identifying that. Uh the couple of alternatives, uh 131 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Council, you can proceed with first reading the attached bylaw, which I'll 132 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:54,560 read here before we're done. Um and once the uh first reading has been 133 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:58,200 given, no development permit may be issued in the face of the pending 134 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:02,040 changes. That's number one, and that's the recommended solution, so that's what 135 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:06,040 staff are recommending. Um alternatively, you could allow the 136 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:10,200 MPS and LUB to be reviewed to proceed without enacting a short-term 137 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:14,680 moratorium. Uh planning staff do indicate that they believe that the MPS 138 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:19,440 and LUB presently uh likely don't permit the issue of 139 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:23,320 development permit, um but that's not a that's not a a known quantity. Uh 140 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,360 Council could allow that development proceed within the existing 141 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:32,600 um provisions of the LUB. Um as I said, the recommended the 142 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:37,360 recommended um action is to 143 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,800 pass first reading the bylaw. The bylaw is at page seven of your of your Council 144 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,600 package, um for those of you who are following, 145 00:10:42,839 --> 00:10:50,200 and it's a very short uh two-paragraph bylaw bylaw 2611, and 146 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:54,280 bylaw to amend the land use bylaw. First line is it's just it's just the title, 147 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:58,600 and then the the the citation. The second is the actual meat of it. For a 148 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:01,600 period of six months commencing on Council approving first reading of the 149 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,640 bylaw, no development permit applications will be received for AI 150 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:09,400 data centers while the municipality completes its comprehensive review of 151 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,640 the municipal planning strategy and land use bylaw. 152 00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:16,839 Upon motion by Council where additional time is deemed necessary to complete the 153 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:21,760 review, this review period may be expended extended one time by a further 154 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:26,480 period of up to six months, and any applications received following the 155 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:31,040 expiry of the review period would be shall be processed in accordance with 156 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:35,960 the requirements in force at the time. It's important 157 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:40,520 um to realize or to understand that the process 158 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:45,280 um has to be reasonable. It has to stand that test of reasonableness. 159 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Um 160 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:52,600 approving this bylaw at first and second reading 161 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,040 does not prohibit forever 162 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:02,640 the development or the developer issuing development permits for AI data centers. 163 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:07,560 Rather, it provides time and gives pause to the to those that activity to give 164 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:12,280 council and staff the opportunity to develop um 165 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:16,400 the regulations. All of those processes are subject to 166 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:21,480 public input. They'll be done in a public forum. 167 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:27,680 There will be public hearings, but this one is simply about the pause. 168 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:33,800 So, the motion, Your Worship, that is before council is a very simple one. 169 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:38,680 And it is that uh that council approve first reading of bylaw 2611, the bylaw 170 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,560 to amend the land use bylaw, and further that staff be directed to schedule a 171 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:47,320 public hearing. I'm happy to answer or try to answer 172 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:52,160 any questions that council may have. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Harris. 173 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:56,120 Um before I move on to the uh moving of the motion and whatever, I believe 174 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Councillor Redman uh would like to say something. So, go ahead, Councillor 175 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:04,600 Redman. >> Uh thank you. I just wanted Greg for 176 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:09,720 taking the time to explain the process. It's been very confusing for 177 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:16,640 constituents, and they've been concerned about us having um a Zoom meeting, and I 178 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:21,000 think the explanation that the CAO gave was most appropriate, and I thank him 179 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:25,760 very much for taking the time to do that, and hopefully it eases a lot of 180 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,880 minds. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, Councillor Redman. 181 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,000 » Thank you. >> The recommended motion is that Council 182 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:36,800 approve first reading of bylaw 26-11, the bylaw to amend the land use bylaw. 183 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:40,680 Further, that staff be directed to schedule a public hearing. Someone move 184 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:44,520 this second this to make the motion. Moved by Councillor Redmond, seconded by 185 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Councillor Hotelling. Um, any comments or discussion on the 186 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,240 motion? Go ahead, Councillor Hotelling. 187 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:58,040 » Thank you, Mayor Gilroy. Um so I just have a few things to say and 188 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:02,080 apologies if it seems a little choppy. Lots of people have been weighing in 189 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,600 this morning, but I did want to share comments and concerns 190 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,400 um that I have been asked to just to make sure that it's on the record and 191 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:15,640 recorded here today. Uh so, first of all, I just want to say 192 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:20,200 that I did write this without AI. I was trying out AI for some time and admit it 193 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:24,320 can be useful, but there are always there was always something missing, an 194 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:28,720 authentic tone that comes from real humans who are not perfect, and I like 195 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:33,440 that. It makes me feel more connected to the work I do, and it makes me actually 196 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,520 use my brain. I am not saying I will never use it. I just want to be clear 197 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:42,480 that I am now more than ever paying close attention to how and why and the 198 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:46,320 risks associated with it. It actually feels like we are being 199 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:51,680 forced into using it. I try my best to delete the options on all platforms now, 200 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:55,360 but it keeps popping up. I understand tech is here and we don't seem to have a 201 00:14:53,360 --> 00:15:00,680 choice in using it if we are going to be online, but just for the record, I was 202 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:04,960 okay with Google prior to AI. I think it may be better to have to take 203 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:09,680 the time to research properly and contemplate rather than grabbing a quick 204 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:14,880 answer that may or not be truthful, and I make all my posts, business signage, 205 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:18,880 and content using my own creativity now. Call me old-fashioned, but I think it 206 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:22,960 may be best for us as a whole to just close the computer and and down the 207 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:27,840 phone and go outside more often. Maybe then we wouldn't need more data centers. 208 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Could it be that simple? So, here's some things that constituents 209 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:36,080 have shared with me. There is an urgency to this I'm 210 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:40,040 noticing. I've read things like we need to be leaders in data center development 211 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:45,280 and if we get on board early, we'll have a windfall of tax dollars and jobs. 212 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,960 This rush to sign up leaves little room for research and data collection on what 213 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:53,440 the ripple effect will be for our residents and the environment. I believe 214 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:57,480 this moratorium should be in place as long as it takes to make an informed 215 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,920 decision. Some are comparing Nova Scotia to 216 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Alberta. Here in Nova Scotia, when you sneeze, 217 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:10,240 the farmer next over catches your cold. Everything is too close together to have 218 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:15,520 space for this type of industry and the resources it consumes. 219 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:20,480 There has been a severe lack of water during summer months in Cumberland. Over 220 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:25,200 the 20 years I have lived in Pugwash, my own well has gone dry several times and 221 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:29,680 I have many residents who have the same concern. 222 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:34,520 In places like Ireland and New South Wales, they require are requiring tech 223 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:38,520 companies to power their data centers with renewable energy and to provide 224 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:43,720 that renewal renewable energy themselves, adding to the supply. 225 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Government regulations could force tech companies to provide and pay for 226 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,080 enormous new quantities of renewable energy. 227 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:56,280 And I'm talking about actual renewable energy, not biomass or natural gas, but 228 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:00,400 perhaps geothermal, which Cumberland has spent years researching in Springhill. 229 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:05,000 And part of the regulations for a data center could be providing a community 230 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,839 with renewable energy as well as their own. 231 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:13,680 Some questions. Will council have a report on impacts to communities that 232 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:17,839 already have data centers? Will an application to build a data 233 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:22,160 center come to council if there is no moratorium. 234 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:25,360 Where is all this data being used? Is it really Canadians who need this much 235 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:29,320 capacity? Are we able to find this out, or can we 236 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:34,360 put something in place that will allow the data center to only supply data we 237 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:38,760 need here in Nova Scotia? Some have cited to me that we need this 238 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:42,840 because of all our banking services, etc., that have gone online. 239 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:47,320 My understanding is that these are specifically for AI data, but it would 240 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,920 be good to know exactly what that means. I have been using online banking for 241 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:55,840 some time, and there was not this urgent need for data centers. I will do my own 242 00:17:53,520 --> 00:18:01,480 research and find experts who I can ask without a financial tie to these 243 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:04,680 projects to get an un- biased opinion. There are so many questions at this 244 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:09,600 point that we need to know the answers to. Perhaps there is a benefit that 245 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,320 outweighs the costs and risks of this, but I admit I don't know enough about it 246 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:18,960 yet, and so I will be voting for the moratorium until we have a better 247 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:18,960 understanding. Thank you. 248 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,320 » Thank you very much, Councillor Hotelling. Anyone else have anything to 249 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,160 say? Raise your hand. 250 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:32,400 Mr. Herritt, go ahead. >> I Thank you, Your Worship. I just wanted 251 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,920 to check in to see whether those questions that Councillor Hotelling 252 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:42,640 posed were rhetorical or she was looking for an answer. 253 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:46,440 » Thank you. Um I don't expect an answer today. I just wanted to put those in 254 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,760 your I wanted to plant a seed. 255 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,640 » What So, thank you for that. Yeah, Your Worship, Councillor Hotelling, um 256 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:59,280 I would expect that um when regulations come to council, so those things won't 257 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:03,360 be part of this proceeding because this is simply about a pause. 258 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:07,880 But when the actual regulations come forward, the changes to the land use 259 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,880 bylaw that address this, um those are 260 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,800 um those are reasonable questions to ask uh 261 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:19,320 of consultants and our planning staff and 262 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,240 council at the time can work their way through, you know, 263 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:28,840 what answers you can get to the to those um 264 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,240 to those questions. Just but but really 265 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:37,840 really quickly I I would think that 266 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:42,520 impacts on communities and impacts on um properties and that are near these 267 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,840 developments are kind of sort of what the planning 268 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:51,600 process is all about. So, I I I I would expect that there would be information 269 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,480 provided on that, counselor. Um 270 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,920 you had asked, again maybe rhetorically, uh 271 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,720 uh without this moratorium, would would 272 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:05,520 council be would the municipality be accepting 273 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:09,640 applications? I think the answer to that is 274 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,960 yeah, they would work their way through the process. It doesn't mean they would 275 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,920 necessarily be approved or that they would be approved as of right or they 276 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:23,280 would work their way through that the the process. So, 277 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:26,120 all of those things are questions that 278 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,960 members of council and the public can ask when the actual regulations come 279 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:35,080 forward. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. 280 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:38,640 Uh Counselor Italian, go ahead. >> Uh 281 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:43,960 thank you. Just to be clear, um it was specifically whether the development 282 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:49,120 agreement comes to council, if there's no moratorium, like is it just through 283 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:53,800 staff or does it come to a council for approval? 284 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:58,040 » Right. So, thank Your Worship, yeah. So, if there's a 285 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,680 development So, if the development is by development agreement, certainly it does 286 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,440 come to council. Um 287 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,880 planning staff advised that there, as I said in my earlier remarks, they believe 288 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:14,480 that the current land use bylaw, municipal planning strategy, 289 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:18,240 probably does not permit the development of these facilities as 290 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:23,080 it is currently uh as it is currently written. I'll 291 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:27,280 interpret that as it certainly has not as of right in um 292 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:32,840 in any zone at this point in time. So, if that's the case, 293 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,840 that would come before council. 294 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:38,080 I I just do not foresee 295 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:47,480 Careful, because I won't be the CAO much longer, but but I do not foresee 296 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:51,640 uh staff bring a staff uh an an approval for an AI data center 297 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:58,960 happening anytime soon at the staff level without 298 00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:02,080 council involvement, particularly in the face of 299 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:06,360 you know, bringing forward this pause and and going through the process. So, 300 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:11,720 even if the pause today wasn't 301 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:16,200 um successful. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Harold. Anyone 302 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,200 else have a comment? Welcome. 303 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:22,400 Seeing none, I'll ask that we call for the vote. All those in favor of the 304 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,400 motion, raise your hand. 305 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,680 Contrary minded? Seeing none, the motion is carried 306 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:33,080 unanimously. Thank you very much, folks. And if I could have a motion to adjourn, 307 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,720 that would be good. Moved by Deputy Mayor Ghoul, we are now adjourned. Thank 308 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:41,400 you, everyone, for your participation today and your input. Oh, Councillor 309 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,400 Redmond, sorry.