1 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,029 audio is a sure USB interface. 2 00:26:39,039 --> 00:27:17,269 Sure digital 3 00:27:17,279 --> 00:28:46,310 Test. One, two. One, two. One, two. 4 00:28:46,320 --> 00:32:10,870 test test. One, two. 5 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,120 two. Test. Hey. 6 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:20,310 One, two. 7 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Test. Test. One, two, three, four. Hey. 8 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720 One, two. Test. Yep. Yep. Yep. One, 9 00:32:24,720 --> 01:11:21,830 two. 10 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,320 Thank you. Thank you. The Cumberland 11 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,159 Town Council is back from the executive 12 01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:28,320 session. I will take a motion to seal 13 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,280 the minutes. So moved by Councelor Shaw, 14 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,840 second by Councel McIll. All in favor of 15 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,280 seal say I. Any opposed? The minutes are 16 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,040 sealed by a vote of seven to zero. I 17 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,679 will take a motion to adjurnn. Motion by 18 01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:44,159 councelor Shaw is second by councel 19 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,320 McIll. Uh all in favor to adjurnn at 20 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,800 7:49. 21 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,280 >> All in favor? Any opposed? We are 22 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,239 adjourned at 7:49. Uh thank you 23 01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:55,840 councelor 24 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:07,590 Chairman Shaw. 25 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,199 just go off the paper here. All right, 26 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:10,880 I'll call the meeting of the uh 27 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,080 Cumberland Board of License 28 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,000 Commissioners to order at 7:50 p.m. on 29 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,960 Wednesday, August 19th. Uh first, we 30 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,480 have the acceptance of the minutes of 31 01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:22,640 July 15, 2026. 32 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,600 >> Motion. 33 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,199 by Commissioner Kin, second by 34 01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:27,280 Commissioner McIll. All in favor? 35 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,080 >> All opposed. Eyes have it. 70. New 36 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,520 business. We have a temporary outdoor 37 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,880 serving license, an application from 38 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,320 Cumberland Athletic Club for their 39 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,239 annual summer outing located at 30 40 01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:39,120 Hamilton Street on September 19th from 41 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,920 noon to 8:00 p.m. with a rain date of 42 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,760 September 26, 2026. This will be pending 43 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,199 revised outdoor floor plan uh for the 44 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,960 fire department and updated insurance 45 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,560 certificate. 46 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,880 We'll call the public hearing at 7:51 47 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,159 p.m. Um, madam clerk, was that what the 48 01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,719 applicant was in today? or they provided 49 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:02,400 the updated so we don't need the updated 50 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,560 floor plan and just for clarification 51 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,719 because of the uh there was a conflict 52 01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:09,040 of dates 53 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,960 >> so it is the 19th right so everything is 54 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,560 in order for the advertisement at least 55 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,199 okay fabulous is there someone from the 56 01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:17,199 AC here 57 01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:18,000 >> yes 58 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,159 >> oh okay sir uh if you want to go to the mic speak your name and 59 01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:26,159 address for the record 60 01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:27,760 >> you get used to it 61 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,719 >> but you name. 62 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:32,960 >> Uh Tom Ryan, 300 Mar Street in 63 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,040 Cumberland. 64 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:39,199 >> Welcome, Tom. So, uh this is for an 65 01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,920 annual summer outing. Um how did you 66 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,040 have this last year? 67 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:43,920 >> Yes, we did. 68 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,960 >> Okay. And um uh anything special about 69 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:47,360 this? 70 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,960 >> It was pretty successful last year. 71 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,120 There were no issues. All we do, we have 72 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,480 a lawn there. I don't know if you're 73 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,239 familiar with the property, but we have 74 01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:56,480 a lawn that we never use. So in the 75 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,040 summer time just to benefit the members. 76 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,520 We have a little cookout and we play 77 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,159 some cornhole. I mean 78 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:06,400 it's as innocent as it gets. We have our 79 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,840 family there, the kids there and 80 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:08,719 whatever. 81 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:09,679 >> That's it. 82 01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:12,400 >> And 8 8:00 p.m. is the closing time of 83 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,159 the outdoor 84 01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:15,920 >> easy festivities, right? 85 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,400 >> Yep. 86 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,480 >> Okay. Very good. Um thank you. Is there 87 01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:21,600 anyone in the audience that like to 88 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,880 speak in favor or against? 89 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,480 Seeing nobody any Oh, Zoom. All right. 90 01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:29,840 So, we'll close the public hearing at 91 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,080 7:52 p.m. Thank you're all set, sir. 92 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,480 >> Thank you. 93 01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,280 >> I know you don't like to be up there, so 94 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,360 >> um [laughter] 95 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,719 uh any motions or discussions? 96 01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:42,080 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 97 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:42,560 license. 98 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,400 >> We got a motion by Commissioner Kinch, 99 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,000 second by Commissioner McIll. All in 100 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,040 favor? 101 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,159 >> All opposed? The eyes have it. 70. 102 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:54,000 Hope you have some fun. Next, we have a 103 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,000 we're going to um yeah, we'll just do 104 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,600 this one. The class BV license for 105 01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,199 permission uh for presentation perition 106 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,360 advertised. We have a transfer uh 107 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,679 application for a class BV license from 108 01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:07,199 Joseé Almeida DBA Park Pub to Mar and 109 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,920 Mora located at 17 Mil Street. Again, 110 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,480 that was for advertisement. 111 01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,960 Next, we have a class F1ed one-day full 112 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,640 liquor license. an application for a 113 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,440 class F1 1ed one-day full liquor license 114 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:23,280 from Blackstone River Glass LLC for 115 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,120 Island Night at BRGC event on September 116 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,440 11th, 2026 from 6:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. 117 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:35,280 located at 30 Meeting Street. This will 118 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,840 be uh pending a promoter's permit. If 119 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,760 approved, we'll open the public hearing 120 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,760 at 7:54 p.m. I I take it you like being 121 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,679 up there because you ran right up there. 122 01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:49,120 >> I had to take a whole course on this year [laughter] as you just you 123 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,000 just ignore it. 124 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,400 >> Okay. If you would be so kind to 125 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,040 introduce yourself. 126 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,440 >> Uh Rebecca Sukov, owner of Blackstone 127 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,159 River Glass uh center down on the river 128 01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,159 at Cadillac Mills uh across from 129 01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:01,679 Cumberland Hall. 130 01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:03,920 >> Very good. and the event that you're 131 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,679 doing this uh 132 01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:08,400 >> we're hoping to start uh one of we're 133 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,920 hoping it'll be an annual thing just 134 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,760 like a nice cultural event to bring 135 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,000 people in. Um we're having like a small 136 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,960 concert and a food truck with a Jamaican 137 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,679 theme to it. And we're also doing glass 138 01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:24,080 activities that go with sort of an 139 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,679 island theme to it. uh making fish, 140 01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:31,760 doing mosaics, um flame working a palm 141 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,280 tree that people are going to get to 142 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,040 make coconuts and stick on the palm 143 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,600 tree. And so anyway, that's we try and 144 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,560 tie everything in together with a theme 145 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,560 and it'll be out on the river. 146 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,000 >> Is this the first time you're having 147 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,920 this type of event or did you have this? 148 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,840 >> No, we had a we had an amazing 149 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,800 fundraiser just a few months ago. Um 150 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:51,520 that's what I'm thinking. 151 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,480 >> Absolutely incredible. 152 01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:53,760 >> Yeah, I knew you had another event. I 153 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,679 wasn't too sure if it was last year 154 01:16:55,679 --> 01:16:57,040 >> or just recent. Okay. 155 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,280 >> Yeah, that that was early June. 156 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,719 >> Very good. Um, anyone in the audience 157 01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:06,960 would like to speak in favor or against? 158 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,560 >> Anyone from Zoom? 159 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,159 >> No. All right. Then we'll close the 160 01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:13,199 public hearing at 7:55 p.m. Any motions 161 01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:16,320 or discussions from the commission? 162 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,520 >> Question from Commission. 163 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,679 >> You say this is going to be outside. 164 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:22,960 >> Is this out outside? It's so we're at 165 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,640 the end of the Do you know where 166 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,960 Cadillac Mills is? We're on a dead end 167 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,280 that ends in the river basically. If you 168 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,239 know where the um the boat docks are for 169 01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,640 the tourism council, Blackstoneone um 170 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,400 Valley Tourism Council. 171 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400 >> So, yes, it's outdoor. We have zero 172 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,560 neighbors and we're ending at 10. 173 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,159 >> The the only reason why I asked I didn't 174 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,159 see a rain date. Did you 175 01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,080 >> We're going to move it inside because we 176 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,159 couldn't get everybody the the food and 177 01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:49,600 the music. We couldn't get everybody 178 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,199 coordinated. It's not, you know, just do 179 01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:54,000 a little sundance. 180 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,800 >> She's trying to help you. 181 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,480 >> I'd rather not be inside because it's so 182 01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:58,000 beautiful in the river. You know, we've 183 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,760 got the sunsets, but that's that's the 184 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:00,320 plan. 185 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,520 >> Okay. Thanks. 186 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,719 >> Yep. 187 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:06,870 >> Anyone else? 188 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,000 » Motion. 189 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,400 to approve by Commissioner McIll. 190 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:10,719 >> Second. 191 01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:12,400 by Commissioner Kinch. All in 192 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,440 favor? 193 01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:16,480 >> All opposed? The eyes have it. 70. 194 01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:17,520 Congratulations. 195 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,320 >> Thank you all. 196 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,239 >> Thank you. Congratulations. 197 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:22,640 >> All right. 198 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,080 Next, we have public comment. Anyone 199 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,640 like to speak 200 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,360 on Zoom? 201 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,520 Lastly, we have motion for adjournment. 202 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,400 >> I'll make the motion. 203 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,080 >> Motion by Commissioner Kin, second by 204 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,159 Commissioner McIll. Did you have a 205 01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:37,280 public 206 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,960 >> on liquor? 207 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,159 >> No worries. Um, we have a a motion by 208 01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,480 Commissioner McIll, was it? Second by 209 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,440 Commissioner Kinch. Uh, all in favor? 210 01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:49,920 >> I. 211 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,880 >> All opposed. The eyes have it. 70. We 212 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,800 are adjourned at 7:57 p.m. Thank you. 213 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,679 >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I first I 214 01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:01,360 want to welcome everyone to the regular 215 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,679 schedule meeting of the Cumberland Town 216 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:05,840 Council, and I do apologize for us being 217 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,000 a little ttty in the executive session. 218 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,560 Uh, I'm going to call this meeting uh 219 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,159 together at 7:57 p.m. And for the 220 01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:16,239 record, all council members are indeed 221 01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:18,239 present. 222 01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:20,000 If everybody would join me for the 223 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,640 pledge of allegiance. 224 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,040 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 225 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,280 United States of America and to the 226 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,080 republic for which it stands. One nation 227 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,880 under God, indivisible, liberty and 228 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,520 justice for all. 229 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,760 >> Thank you. 230 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,679 Next item as we moved down our agenda 231 01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:41,360 with three general announcements. 232 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:42,880 Council, does anyone have any general 233 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,910 announcements they'd like to share? 234 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,840 Seeing none, we're going to move on. The 235 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,640 next item is our consent agenda. If uh 236 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,960 does any council members have any issue 237 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,440 or would like to uh pull out any item 238 01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:00,960 from the consent agenda? 239 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,320 Seeing none, I'll take a motion to 240 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,640 approve the consent agenda. So moved by 241 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,120 councelor Jaw Shaw, second by councel 242 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,000 McIll. All in favor to approve say I. 243 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,560 >> Any opposed? The consent agenda passes 244 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,239 by a vote of seven to zero. Next item is 245 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:18,400 our first public comment of the evening. 246 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,080 If anybody would like to address the 247 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,560 council on any topic, just please step 248 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,960 to the microphone and state your name 249 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,840 and address for the uh record. Sir, did 250 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,830 you want to uh 251 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,239 you Yeah, you can speak the last anytime 252 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:36,640 you want. Does anybody want to address 253 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,120 the council 254 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,960 on the first public comment? We got one 255 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,560 more shot at, so don't you worry. 256 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,719 Okay, we're going to move now. Next item 257 01:20:46,719 --> 01:20:48,800 down is uh reports and communications. 258 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,960 We have reports out of executive session 259 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,440 as may be necessary. The council took no 260 01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:55,920 votes in executive session. And next 261 01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,400 item, we have item B under that uh uh 262 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,320 line item six is our update from our 263 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:03,920 school committee. Chairwoman Vogle. 264 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,830 Thank you. 265 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,320 » Good evening. Amy Vogle, 10 Wam Trail 266 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,800 Cumberland. Um, well, it's the start of 267 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,480 a new school year already. I cannot 268 01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:18,800 believe it for the 26 27 class. And on 269 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,040 August 26, grades one through nine 270 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,840 return. And on August 27th 7th, all 271 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,239 grades return. So, normally we started 272 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,239 after Labor Day, but Labor Day being so 273 01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:31,120 late, we're starting before. Um, the 274 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,679 next thing is enrollment com enrollment 275 01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:35,840 this year is 5,171 276 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,480 students. We are up 88 students from the 277 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:40,080 same time last year. So we continue to 278 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,719 grow here in Cumberland. And finally, BF 279 01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:44,880 Norton is construction is on time on 280 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,560 budget. So those are two wonderful 281 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,120 things to say. And I was assured at the 282 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,640 last meeting that it would be completely 283 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:55,280 on time. So any questions? 284 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,280 >> Any comments or or questions for the 285 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,920 chair? 286 01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:01,920 >> Just one council. 287 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,760 >> No. Do you know when the bus schedule 288 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,199 will be published? Because I know that's 289 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:07,520 often inquired. And are there any 290 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,320 impacts this year to transportation that 291 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:10,719 you're 292 01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:12,000 >> this year? There's no impacts to 293 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,159 transportation. We are starting a trial 294 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,400 for optin, but they don't need to opt 295 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,400 in. They can start opting in, but it 296 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,719 does not impact bus riders this year. 297 01:22:20,719 --> 01:22:23,679 For the 2728 year, the opt-in model will 298 01:22:23,679 --> 01:22:26,320 be used in order to decide how many um 299 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,840 riders will be on each bus to figure out 300 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,199 the capacity of how many buses we 301 01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:30,719 actually need. So, we're not 302 01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:33,120 overspending money on busing. I I 303 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,159 thought the bus schedule was going to be 304 01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:35,920 out today, but it might be tomorrow. I 305 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:36,960 think it might be actually in the Valley 306 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:37,920 Breeze tomorrow, but I could be 307 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,440 completely making that up. That's my 308 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,199 thought. So, 309 01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:45,040 >> thank you. Anything else? 310 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,239 >> Again, thank you, Madam Chair. 311 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:49,840 >> Thank you. I appreciate it. 312 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,280 >> Okay, we're moving down under our 313 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,199 reports and communications uh section. 314 01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:54,719 We are now at monthly and quarterly 315 01:22:54,719 --> 01:22:58,560 financial reports ending July 2026. Does 316 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,719 anyone have any questions of the mayor 317 01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:04,629 on the financials? 318 01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:06,159 Seeing none, I'm going to move down. We 319 01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:07,920 now have the check register for July 320 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,199 2026. Any questions of the mayor on 321 01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:13,920 check register? We are now down on item 322 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,280 E. We have a request from the tax 323 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,320 assessor to review and approve July 2026 324 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,639 abatements and supplemental bills. We do 325 01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:24,880 have a total for 2020 2026 real estate 326 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,560 supplementals for approval in the amount 327 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,470 of $8,827.39. 328 01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:32,239 There's no questions. I will take a 329 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:34,159 motion to approve. So, so moved by 330 01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:36,719 councelor Shaw, second by councel McIll. 331 01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:39,040 All in favor to approve say I. Any 332 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,440 opposed? The supplementals are approved 333 01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:45,360 by a vote of seven to zero. Moving down, 334 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:50,229 we are now at 335 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:51,679 department reports. We have animal 336 01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:53,440 control, building committee, building 337 01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,239 official, EMS, library, parks and 338 01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:57,760 recreation, planning and community 339 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,760 development report, uh, police 340 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,239 department, senior services, and the 341 01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:04,880 town clerk's office. Does any council 342 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,719 members have any question on those 343 01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:09,600 reports? 344 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,120 Hearing none, I'm moving on now. We're 345 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,040 going to be at number seven, licenses. 346 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,960 We're at entertainment license. We have 347 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,760 an application for a special event 348 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,560 entertainment license from Blackstone uh 349 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,360 River Glass LLC for the Island Night at 350 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,520 BRGC event on September 11, 2026 from 351 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,360 6:00 to 10 located at 30 Meeting Street. 352 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,280 We do approve council is pending a 353 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,159 promoter's permit. Uh does anyone have 354 01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:38,000 any discussion on this license or 355 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,159 comments? 356 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:41,440 Hearing none, I'll take a motion to 357 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:44,719 approve the license. Motion by councelor 358 01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:47,199 McIll, 359 01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:49,520 second by councelor Shaw. All in favor 360 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:50,960 to approve say I. I. 361 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,360 >> Any opposed? The license passes by a 362 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,679 vote of seven to zero. We're moving 363 01:24:55,679 --> 01:24:57,840 down. We are now at an application for a 364 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,080 special event entertainment license from 365 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,280 Adam Farms LLC for the weekends at the 366 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,840 farm uh for a farm event on Sep 367 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,800 September 12th and 13th. September 18th 368 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,840 and 19th and 20. September 25th, 26th, 369 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,679 27. October 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. October 370 01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:19,600 9th, 10th, and 11th, 12th, 16, 17, and 371 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,080 18. October's 23rd, 24th, 25th. October 372 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,800 30, 31st, and November 1st of 2026. They 373 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,800 will be running from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 374 01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,320 p.m. Located at 158 Burke Swamp. We do 375 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,320 approve. It's pending the promoter's 376 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,040 permit. Does anybody have any questions 377 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,719 on these dates or any other syndrome? 378 01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:44,080 Hearing none, I'll take a motion to 379 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,840 approve all dates. 380 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,159 >> So moved by councel Shaw, second by 381 01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:50,159 council McGill. All in favor to approve 382 01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:52,960 say I. Any opposed. 383 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,480 The uh eyes have it by a vote 7 to zero. 384 01:25:56,480 --> 01:25:58,480 Okay, we are now moving down to our next 385 01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,159 license. We have an application for a 386 01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:02,080 special event entertainment license from 387 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,600 Franklin Farms uh for the Cumberland 388 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,600 Fire Department Family Family Day, an 389 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,639 event uh on September 19th, 2026 from 390 01:26:10,639 --> 01:26:14,800 10:30 a.m. to 6 p.m. located at 142 391 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:19,120 Abbott Run uh Road. If we do uh if we do 392 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,639 approve, it's pending the promoter's 393 01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:24,719 permit. Um I see Phantom uh excuse me, 394 01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:26,880 Franklin Farms is here. Does anyone have 395 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,560 any questions for Franklin Farms on this 396 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,159 event? 397 01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:31,199 >> Just one if I may. 398 01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:32,560 >> Of course. Council Bol 399 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:37,030 >> just curious if there's a rain date 400 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,440 » or Franklin Farm. That's where we are. 401 01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:39,760 Yep. 402 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:40,480 >> Franklin Farm. 403 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,880 >> Is there a rain date for the September 404 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:47,110 19th, 2026? 405 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,520 » Thank you. 406 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,000 >> If there is no uh further discussion on 407 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:52,560 this, 408 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,560 >> I'll make a motion to approve. I got a 409 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,719 motion by councelor Bolio and a second 410 01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:59,360 by councelor McIll. All in favor to 411 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,080 approve the license say I. Any opposed? 412 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,199 The license passes by a vote of 7 to 413 01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:08,480 zero. Next item, we're moving down now 414 01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:10,400 on licenses number four. We have an 415 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:11,840 application for a special event 416 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,199 entertainment license for Phantom Farm 2 417 01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:18,480 uh LLC for a fall fest event on 418 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:22,159 September 12 and 13, September 19th and 419 01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:26,000 20. September 26 and 27, October 3rd and 420 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,360 4th, October 10th and 11th, October 17th 421 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:34,719 and 18th, October 24 and 25 of 2026 from 422 01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:38,560 10 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Uh, this is located 423 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,480 at 2920 Diamond Hill Road or I take a 424 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:44,880 motion. Does uh any uh council want to 425 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,480 pull one of these dates to treat it 426 01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,560 separately? 427 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,440 >> I would. Yes. Thank you. So, um I'm in 428 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:53,840 support of all days except for September 429 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,960 19th. And the reason for that is I think 430 01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,120 the Franklin Farm event is a full 431 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,920 volunteer event and it's quite in close 432 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,000 in its proximity to the Phantom Farms. 433 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,880 Um I know uh like I said, it's a full 434 01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,360 volunteer event and it does help to 435 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,760 promote, you know, the culture within 436 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,120 the farming community in in Cumberland. 437 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,000 And so I think having uh that date 438 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,239 distinguished only for Franklin Farm um 439 01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:26,560 you know again due to the proximity I 440 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,800 think would make the most sense and as 441 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,520 it relates to Adam's farm I supported 442 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,760 all the dates because I think the 443 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,696 proximity is much further apart from 444 01:28:36,696 --> 01:28:39,120 [clears throat] um these two uh 445 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,560 establishments. 446 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,719 >> Okay. So, uh, what what I will do is 447 01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:44,960 I'll take a motion to approve those in a 448 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,440 polling. Well, first I'll take a motion. 449 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,679 Uh, do we want to uh do we want to 450 01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:52,159 remove September 19th 451 01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:56,719 >> 19th September 19th, 2020? 452 01:28:56,719 --> 01:29:01,110 >> Yeah. No, I'll 453 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,310 » Sure. 454 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:09,750 » Okay. 455 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,120 » I see. Thank you. 456 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,080 >> Does that change? 457 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,040 >> Yes. 458 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,159 >> Yeah, it would be the 26th. My 459 01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:17,679 >> No, thank you. I was gonna get there. I 460 01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:18,800 just didn't know if I had to open a 461 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,400 public hearing before allowed you to 462 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,480 speak, but we're good. 463 01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:24,560 >> On this particular item. 464 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,800 >> Okay. Do I open a public hearing for 465 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,280 this? 466 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:36,229 >> Oh, okay. Okay. 467 01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:38,320 » I'll bring you. You have to sit tight. 468 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,840 If you want to address the council on 469 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,280 your license, of course. If you want to 470 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,199 come to the podium. 471 01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:45,199 >> Okay. Come on up. 472 01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:52,550 >> Yeah. 473 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,320 Um I guess I just want to know if I have 474 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,360 to reapply for a different license now. 475 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,440 Do I have to reapply if we can't do it 476 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:01,920 on that date? Well, we haven't made that 477 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,120 decision yet, but if if we pull it um 478 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,199 and and I 479 01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:09,840 agree with the councelor's uh view of 480 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,120 this, is there any way that this one day 481 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,400 could be set aside so that your neighbor 482 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,440 farm can have this solo? 483 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,760 >> Yeah, I'll just talk to the GM and it's 484 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,800 just um an event for the kids. So, we 485 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,800 just wouldn't inflate the balance houses 486 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,040 or do the hay rides um should your 487 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,440 decision that when we have two that are 488 01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:33,120 close by to do that. So, 489 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,639 >> as long as we know ahead just for like 490 01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:35,280 scheduling. 491 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:40,400 >> Yeah, we'll uh So, what I'll do is I'm still going to go ahead. I'll remove 492 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,480 it, take a vote on them all 493 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,080 and then we'll leave this one to the 494 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,480 side and we'll take a vote separately uh 495 01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:51,199 to deny your Okay. 496 01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:53,440 >> Okay. Mr. President, just to be clear, 497 01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:55,920 if you wanted to substitute another 498 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,040 date, 499 01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,800 >> yes, I think you would have to come 500 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,679 back. We just do it every weekend of 501 01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:03,760 September, October for fall. So we 502 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,760 wouldn't push it okay to to another 503 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,199 date. Okay. But thank you. 504 01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:11,600 >> While we have uh we have uh Fan here, do 505 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:12,960 we have any questions about these 506 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,870 events? 507 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,120 Um 508 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,320 I think uh what is the situation with 509 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,320 parking because um last year we had 510 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,560 parking spilling over into all of the 511 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,280 nearby streets and we are probably going 512 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,080 to reduce parking in all of those 513 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,679 neighborhoods to only one side of the 514 01:31:35,679 --> 01:31:37,199 street because otherwise it's a public 515 01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:39,360 safety issue. The emergency vehicles 516 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,639 can't fit through there. 517 01:31:40,639 --> 01:31:42,159 >> So do you feel that you're going to have 518 01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:45,360 adequate parking with that? because my 519 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:46,880 concern is we need to make it so 520 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,480 emergency vehicles can fit through those 521 01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,159 neighborhoods. We also don't want to see 522 01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:52,880 a trail of people with kids marching up 523 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,880 Diamond Hill Road. Um that seems a 524 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,320 little bit dangerous. So, have you been 525 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:57,679 able to expand parking? 526 01:31:57,679 --> 01:31:59,760 >> Yeah, absolutely. So, we are working on 527 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,679 an alternate plan for all of our Fall 528 01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:04,239 Fest dates. Um we kind of tested it at 529 01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:07,360 the vendor fair last weekend um where we 530 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,239 opened up down the farm. We um had 531 01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:11,520 people drive all the way down and we 532 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,320 opened up a parking area down there. Um, 533 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,960 so we're contemplating the idea of doing 534 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,520 that partially again, um, and adjusting 535 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,600 our hayride schedule so that it can 536 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,840 alleviate, we were able to fit about 100 537 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,159 cars down there and we feel as though it 538 01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:28,400 significantly alleviated the side roads 539 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,239 last weekend. We really didn't have any, 540 01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:31,760 to my knowledge, um, neighborly 541 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,080 complaints or anything like that. Um, so 542 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,840 we felt as though that was a good jump 543 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,280 start to be kinder to our neighbors. 544 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,920 Um, I guess one of my other questions 545 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,920 would be when you're Wow, I just forgot 546 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:47,360 my question when I went to speak. I'm 547 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:47,600 sorry. [laughter] 548 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,880 >> It's okay. 549 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:49,280 >> Whoops. 550 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:50,480 >> Join the club. 551 01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:53,520 >> Yeah. What was that? 552 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,080 One of my other questions would be um 553 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,600 around a police detail because I know 554 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,920 you've had a police detail. At one 555 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,920 point, we requested a police detail. I 556 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,920 noticed on here you only say 100 people 557 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,760 in attendance, but that seems unlikely 558 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,320 for an event that last year full filled 559 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,480 multiple streets on both sides plus your 560 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,159 parking lot plus part of Diamond Hill 561 01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:19,360 Road with cars. So, does that number 562 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,280 need to be updated to something more 563 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,080 realistic? Um, that's what the police go 564 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,760 by for public safety. 565 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,840 >> Yeah, so when we pulled numbers from 566 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,159 last year, we averaged about 98 tickets 567 01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:31,760 sold per day. 568 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,280 >> Okay. Um, but we only charge for the 569 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:36,000 children. 570 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:36,560 >> Okay, 571 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,199 >> so that's 98 children tickets average. 572 01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:40,719 There's certainly days where there was 573 01:33:40,719 --> 01:33:44,159 more um per day. So if you have the 574 01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:46,880 grandparents coming and the aunties and 575 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,360 it would lead to to more cars. So I 576 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,440 don't I don't really know how to answer 577 01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:53,840 that properly. There could certainly be 578 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,199 more than that in one day. 579 01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:01,910 >> Okay. Um, 580 01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,000 I don't really want to I mean, I think 581 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,320 it's very important that the farm 582 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:07,760 succeeds, but I also want to make sure 583 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,480 people are safe. So, without us 584 01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:12,400 requiring a police detail or anything 585 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,719 like that, would you take it upon 586 01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:17,760 yourself to reach out to the police 587 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,920 department and see if they think that it 588 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,679 might be and maybe if they're willing 589 01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:23,840 to, I don't know, drive by a few extra 590 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,120 times on the first weekend. If it looks 591 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,880 crowded, have some more because if it's 592 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,960 needed to direct traffic and keep keep 593 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,040 people safe, I want it to be there. But 594 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,960 I don't want to put the onus on you guys 595 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,639 to maybe pay for something or deal with 596 01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:35,840 something that you don't need. But 597 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,600 >> yeah, no, we will certainly pay for 598 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:38,960 police detail if that's what's 599 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,040 requested. Um, we want everyone to be 600 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,600 safe also. And whatever is requested and 601 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,120 want is wanted by everybody, we will 602 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,560 certainly do that. No problem at all. 603 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,239 >> Can you um maybe do give us an estimate 604 01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:52,880 of how many people you're expecting? If 605 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,080 you're actually counting people, not 606 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,400 just tickets sold, because I that would 607 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,239 be like that would be the number that 608 01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:00,639 public safety needs to determine, you 609 01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:02,639 know, do they need more people for 610 01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:04,400 traffic detail? Do they need you guys to 611 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,320 have a police detail because just the 612 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:07,360 kids 613 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,840 >> since they usually don't drive, 614 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,920 >> right? Yeah. So, that's why. Yeah. 615 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,159 >> So, I mean, if we could get an updated 616 01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:16,239 number on that, I mean, I would probably 617 01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:18,480 be more um comfortable voting in favor 618 01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:19,840 of it. And it's just trying to get that 619 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,840 balance. And I am a little concerned 620 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,920 because now that we know we have to 621 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,360 limit parking and that's going to be on 622 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,199 an upcoming agenda. I just want to make 623 01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:29,440 sure we're not spilling out onto Diamond 624 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:31,280 Hill Road with nobody there to help with 625 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:32,880 traffic because you guys can't really 626 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,040 direct traffic on Diamond Hill Road on 627 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,080 the road. You know, it would be 628 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:37,520 dangerous and illegal. 629 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,080 >> Um so, [laughter] you know, I just want 630 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,080 to make sure we we have safety and we're 631 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:43,840 also sort of respecting the neighbors 632 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:44,400 and everything. 633 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,239 >> Yeah, absolutely. I can get um I wasn't 634 01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:47,120 here 635 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,760 >> for Fall Fest last year, so um I'll just 636 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,920 have to talk to the GM and um and the 637 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,520 owner and just get their better 638 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,159 judgment. 639 01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:56,000 >> Okay. on what they think the actual 640 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,239 attendance was last year versus tickets 641 01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:00,880 sold. Okay. Um and car-wise. Um but I 642 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,080 will also emphasize to them that um 643 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,360 making the back parking is now a 644 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,080 forefront and and rescheduling our 645 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,480 hayide is is of importance so that the 646 01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,400 cars can park back there and come out. 647 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,760 >> Yeah. Because I imagine you also have 648 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,840 additional employees and other people 649 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,440 that need to park too, right? It's not 650 01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:19,679 just 651 01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:20,480 >> they're not allowed to park in front 652 01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:22,239 during Fall Fest, but Yeah. [laughter] 653 01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:22,880 >> Okay. 654 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:23,520 >> Yeah. 655 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:24,400 >> Okay. So 656 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,159 >> yes, and we h assuming that the um no 657 01:36:28,159 --> 01:36:30,719 parking ordinance passes when it gets in 658 01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:32,239 front of the council in the next few 659 01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:35,520 weeks, it does allow for parking on both 660 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,440 sides of the farm externally. So it'll 661 01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:40,320 be adjacent parking to you and then um 662 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,480 it'll just be one side of those streets 663 01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:44,800 the other way around. So you'll still 664 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,800 have, you know, some areas. 665 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:47,600 >> Okay. 666 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,440 >> Thank you, Council. Councelor Shaw. 667 01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:51,920 >> Thank you, Mr. President. So, um, unlike 668 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,920 past events where you had vendors, this 669 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,000 one does not have any vendors. So, 670 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,040 therefore, all those parked cars from 40 671 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,960 vendors being there are going to be 672 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,400 non-existent, right? So, so that's good. That helps 673 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,199 >> at least understand the capacity for 674 01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:08,800 which people that are attending, they're 675 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,880 not going to be finding spots because of 676 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,400 these 40 vendors taking up most of the 677 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:12,880 parking. 678 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,600 >> Correct. But you did have um and this 679 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,719 could be just my 680 01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:20,560 mind forgetting, but I looked back into 681 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,639 some past meetings. You did say you were 682 01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:24,480 serving liquor 683 01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:26,320 and that that you were applying for an 684 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:30,000 F1, but I don't see any F1 license being 685 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,560 issued or applied for. And I wanted to 686 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,000 make I went back to like June to make 687 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,280 sure that we didn't do it that 688 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,119 prematurely early and then you're now 689 01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:38,080 you're coming for the regular 690 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,920 entertainment license and like say that 691 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:40,960 you don't have one. 692 01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,719 >> No. Yeah. So, um I'm currently figuring 693 01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:47,119 that out. We're not as of right now. 694 01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:49,199 There will be no Phantom Brewing won't 695 01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:51,520 be there if that that's usually who we 696 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:52,239 have. 697 01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:54,800 >> Um I'm also So, I'm the new event court 698 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,560 director for Phantom Farms and Phantom 699 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,440 Brewing. 700 01:37:57,440 --> 01:38:00,000 >> So, as of right now, um for Fall Fest, 701 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,920 there will not be Phantom Brewing on 702 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,199 site. There will be no vendors, no 703 01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:06,639 alcohol of any kind. Um 704 01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:08,960 that has been a thing. So, no, 705 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,080 >> but but it could come possibly in the in 706 01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,239 like that would affect maybe October if 707 01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:17,760 we had a meeting in September and you 708 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,920 applied for a license for those events 709 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,560 is what is like I want to um 710 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,520 >> maybe confirm with the solicitor. Yeah. 711 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,560 >> So, we've talked about this. So, Phantom 712 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:33,440 Brewing has a B license and andor a 713 01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:37,360 state license. So, she's conferring with 714 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:42,560 DBR on what the brewery can do or not do 715 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,960 on other properties. 716 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,600 They cannot get an F license at Phantom 717 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,679 Farm North, I'm calling it. 718 01:38:49,679 --> 01:38:50,320 >> Okay. 719 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,800 >> Because they have they now have the 720 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,400 winery license. 721 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,159 >> So, they are unable to get a uh they are 722 01:38:58,159 --> 01:39:01,199 unable to ask for an F license going 723 01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:03,760 forward. previously they didn't have the 724 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,760 winery license that's why they could ask 725 01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:06,719 for the F license. 726 01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:07,920 >> That was going to be my follow-up one 727 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,840 because I know that was that you and I 728 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,280 have been talking whether or not that 729 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,000 was issued if that was the case. 730 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,920 >> So So okay, I did talk to the state the 731 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,040 other day after our conversation. Um 732 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,760 >> and there are three 733 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,600 conflicting things. So no, the brewery 734 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,639 cannot serve at the farm 735 01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:30,560 ever. You know, right now it it's not a 736 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,440 thing. So, we are seeking after we 737 01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:36,000 spoke, seeking other ways to potentially 738 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:41,440 have it there. As of right now, it's not going to happen. 739 01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:42,159 >> Okay. 740 01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:44,560 >> Should that change, I don't know how 741 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,800 quick. I don't Yeah, but as of right 742 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,880 now, with their current license at the 743 01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,440 brewery, they won't they won't be at the 744 01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:52,800 farm. It might be through one of those 745 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,440 outside vendors, but we haven't even 746 01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:56,239 discussed that. 747 01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:58,320 >> So, the application should read no. 748 01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:59,840 There would be no liquor service. 749 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,000 >> No. Yeah. No, no, sorry. 750 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,040 >> That doesn't say that. That's why I 751 01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:03,520 brought it up. 752 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,480 >> It because um when we did apply for it, 753 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,360 we did apply, but then we figured out it 754 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,360 couldn't. So, yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. 755 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,320 >> Okay. Well, I appreciate the 756 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,520 clarification. Thank you. 757 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:13,840 >> Yeah. 758 01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,719 >> I I can I just 759 01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:18,960 did you have more employees in that 760 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,280 parking lot of this last festival 761 01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,880 because it seemed like there were a lot 762 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,480 of people moving around. 763 01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:26,480 >> I was doing parking detail. Yeah. 764 01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:27,440 >> Good. Good. [laughter] I'm just saying 765 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:28,400 good. Good for you. Thank you. 766 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,000 >> Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah. 767 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,520 >> Um, now I know there's been some 768 01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,199 interest on this. Is anybody else have 769 01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:36,080 any questions of the 770 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,159 >> spokesman for the farm? 771 01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:39,119 >> All right. Thank you. 772 01:40:39,119 --> 01:40:40,880 >> Thank you. 773 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,320 >> Do I have to open a public record if I 774 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:43,840 want to hear a public meeting? 775 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:44,880 >> There's somebody that wants 776 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,719 >> Yeah, I want to get me to go up here. 777 01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:48,560 Does you would like to address anything? 778 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:49,440 Please 779 01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:51,280 >> just state your come to the just state 780 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,960 your name and address for the record. Is 781 01:40:52,960 --> 01:41:00,870 you know the routine. [laughter] 782 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,800 Linda Pillo, one Town Thompson Hill 783 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,960 Drive. I'm just concerned about the 784 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,840 parking because last year was absolutely 785 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,000 horrendous. I know you weren't there, 786 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,080 but there was parking on both sides of 787 01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,159 the road. I couldn't even get out of my 788 01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:18,880 street. I had to back down. And so it 789 01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,840 was better. I have to say the last event 790 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,080 that you had, the fact that you closed 791 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,280 that gate and people weren't going in 792 01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,119 there and then just going up and around 793 01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:31,360 and I did see that people were parking 794 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,239 further down. Um the hundred 795 01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:40,719 for attendance is way off, way off just 796 01:41:40,719 --> 01:41:42,880 because of what was parking in front of 797 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,040 my house last year. There was a minimum 798 01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,360 and there was turnover all day. There 799 01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,760 was at least 15 cars in front of my 800 01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:56,080 property alone and so and most of those 801 01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,520 cars had four people in them. And then 802 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,560 as far as the my understanding with them 803 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,840 applying for a liquor license, I um have 804 01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,040 been the license itself hasn't been 805 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,159 issued. So according to DBR and I did 806 01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:14,880 send a letter to Leand desolate until 807 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,679 the license is issued they can apply for 808 01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:20,560 a class F liquor license and that is the 809 01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,440 only type of license they can apply for 810 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:26,719 during that time and then once the 811 01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:30,159 license is license is actually issued 812 01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:34,320 they can then if they want to serve what 813 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:38,560 is not produced on the farm they then 814 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,920 have to get it through like a caterer 815 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,239 license and someone there 816 01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:47,920 >> and so we don't regulate state licenses. 817 01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:49,920 So a caterer's license is a state 818 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,040 license. So 819 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,679 >> the brewery license is a state license 820 01:42:53,679 --> 01:42:56,960 but they also have a town B class B 821 01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,400 license which they can't use to serve on 822 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,800 other properties. Right? So I I am not 823 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,520 uh advising town the town 824 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,600 >> on state licenses, right? 825 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,360 >> But I I think you're right. I think if 826 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,360 they used a caterer, they could, right? 827 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,320 >> I thought that the um winery license did 828 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:17,679 issue. If it didn't, 829 01:43:17,679 --> 01:43:19,520 >> it has not issued to date yet, but 830 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,679 they're not asking for the F license. 831 01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:24,239 >> But I just wanted you like when you were 832 01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,400 saying that since they've gotten the 833 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,560 license, that's what I was told for a 834 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:34,560 right for a class F. But I emailed her today to ask if the 835 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:35,920 license had been issued, 836 01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,280 >> right? But they're not asking for a 837 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,840 class F, so it doesn't really implicate 838 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:43,280 this, you know. So once that class F 839 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,679 license issues, even if even if they 840 01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:47,280 were to approve an F license, which 841 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,040 they're not asking for, they couldn't 842 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,440 use it if they had the winery license, 843 01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:53,199 which they don't have yet until it's 844 01:43:53,199 --> 01:43:54,400 issued 845 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,960 >> legally. That's what they told me. So I 846 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:01,600 just wanted to clarify that. Um and then 847 01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,840 if 848 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,480 like there is parking there, what else 849 01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:08,560 can be done 850 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,119 like with the overflow if there is 851 01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:15,760 overflow if parking 852 01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:19,760 isn't limited on the roads 853 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,239 like in the past when the signs went up 854 01:44:22,239 --> 01:44:24,880 like they do for the parade. 855 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:25,920 >> Yeah. 856 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:31,840 If when it comes up for z parking and 857 01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,920 prevent parking, 858 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,480 what can be done if that doesn't get 859 01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:39,600 issued in time for fall fest? We could 860 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,000 still um do temporary Yeah, we could 861 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,199 still do temporary signs, but um we did 862 01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:48,080 have uh I spoke with all of the chiefs 863 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,480 before putting the ordinance together uh 864 01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:54,159 police, fire, and EMS, and we they 865 01:44:54,159 --> 01:44:56,159 understood and confirmed that there is 866 01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:57,920 not enough room for emergency vehicles 867 01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,679 with cars parked on both sides. So, I'm 868 01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:00,800 hoping 869 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,639 >> all these all these wonderful folks up 870 01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:03,920 here, I'm hoping at least four of them 871 01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,560 are going to vote with us next time to 872 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,040 get that um parking, you know, in place 873 01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:10,480 and then we'll do our best to get the 874 01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:12,560 signs up before all of this is started 875 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:13,679 because we still have a little bit of 876 01:45:13,679 --> 01:45:16,159 time left because we meet again in two 877 01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:18,960 weeks. So, the uh my my hope is that 878 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:19,840 we're going to have ordinance 879 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,239 subcommittee um within that time, 880 01:45:22,239 --> 01:45:24,239 possibly on the same day as our next 881 01:45:24,239 --> 01:45:26,560 town council meeting, pass through the 882 01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,320 ordinance thing, assuming everything is 883 01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:32,320 in order um and then have be able to 884 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,239 vote on it and, you know, get the signs 885 01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:36,000 up pretty quickly, but if we need to, we 886 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,520 can do temporary signs again. 887 01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:38,880 >> Okay, great. Thank you. 888 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,760 >> Thank you. 889 01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:43,440 >> Anyone else want to speak on this while 890 01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:46,629 you're 891 01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:48,400 Okay. So, let's get back to the list. 892 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,880 So, I understand 893 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,639 Phantom Farm is willingly going to 894 01:45:52,639 --> 01:45:59,189 remove 926. Is that right? 895 01:45:59,199 --> 01:46:04,790 From your request. 896 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:09,760 So, um I'll take a motion to amend this 897 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,679 license. 898 01:46:11,679 --> 01:46:13,840 You can vote to approve all the dates 899 01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,000 except for September 26th and then take 900 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,000 up September 26th. 901 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,239 >> Makes it simple. So, uh, with that said 902 01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:22,159 and no objection, I'll take a motion 903 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:24,239 because everything is in order on the on 904 01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:26,400 the farm's end. I'll take a motion to 905 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,639 approve this license for every day 906 01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:31,280 except 92626. 907 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,560 >> So moved by councelor. 908 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,840 >> It is second by 909 01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:39,440 >> council. Councelor Bolio. All in favor 910 01:46:39,440 --> 01:46:42,719 to approve say I. Any opposed. The uh 911 01:46:42,719 --> 01:46:45,199 the license passes by a vote of seven to 912 01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:46,719 zero. And again, I want to thank you for 913 01:46:46,719 --> 01:46:50,880 working with our nonprofit. 914 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,400 Okay, we're move we're moving over to 915 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,080 our next item. We have an application 916 01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:57,920 for a special event license from Ocean 917 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,080 State Brewing Company doing doing 918 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,480 businesses Phantom Farms Brewing for a 919 01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:04,880 parking lot takeover event on September 920 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,159 5th, uh 2026. All of these will all be 921 01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:11,119 at 26 September 5th, September 20th, 922 01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:13,840 October 3rd, and these are all from 923 01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,320 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. And it's going 924 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,960 to be located at 30 Mountain Street. 925 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,800 Everything is in order. I'm sorry. Go 926 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,320 ahead. 927 01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,119 >> I just want to make sure. So, you took 928 01:47:25,119 --> 01:47:27,520 you voted to approve all of them except 929 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:28,239 for 930 01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:30,080 >> September 26th. 931 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,360 >> And now, are you going to take up 932 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:32,800 September 26th? 933 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,560 >> I certainly will if I have to do that. 934 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:35,760 But if it was removed, 935 01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,360 >> Yeah. I think you need a vote on it. 936 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:37,600 Yeah. 937 01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:39,119 >> Okay. Well, let's go back one. 938 01:47:39,119 --> 01:47:39,679 >> Sorry. 939 01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:42,400 >> So, um we approved uh the previous 940 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,239 dates. Now, I will take a motion uh to 941 01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:49,280 deny the license an application for a 942 01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:50,719 special event entertainment license of 943 01:47:50,719 --> 01:47:54,560 Phantom Farm to LLC uh for Fall Fest for 944 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:57,679 the date of 92626. 945 01:47:57,679 --> 01:47:59,360 Do I have a motion? So, moved by 946 01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:00,880 councelor Bolio. It is second by 947 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:01,920 councelor. 948 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,280 >> All in favor to deny say uh say I. 949 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,719 >> I. Any opposed? The the the license is 950 01:48:08,719 --> 01:48:12,560 denied by a vote of six to one. Okay. 951 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,440 Thank you. So, we're moving on to our 952 01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:18,400 next again we special event uh license 953 01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:19,920 for Ocean State Brewing doing business 954 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:24,159 phantom farms. Uh brewing for parking 955 01:48:24,159 --> 01:48:27,520 lot takeover uh event September 5th, 956 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,639 September 20th, October 3rd, all of 2026 957 01:48:30,639 --> 01:48:34,239 from 12 uh to 6 pm. This is located at 958 01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:37,040 30 M Street uh for the council. 959 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:41,440 Everything is indeed order in order. Um 960 01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:43,679 is anybody here from the farm on this 961 01:48:43,679 --> 01:48:46,880 particular please or you step up tell us 962 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:54,229 what this is going to entail? 963 01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:55,920 » These are our concert series. 964 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,840 >> Um we do them in the parking lot. They 965 01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,760 are really great events. Big turnout for 966 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,679 these. Um we usually anticipate at least 967 01:49:01,679 --> 01:49:06,320 500 guests to attend. Um the bands go 968 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,639 right on the loading dock um outside. 969 01:49:08,639 --> 01:49:10,960 It's really fun. Um when we serve our 970 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,880 beer, there's usually two food trucks 971 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,600 there. Um I don't know what they will be 972 01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,960 yet. Um they're still pending. Um but 973 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,639 just like all the other other ones we've 974 01:49:20,639 --> 01:49:21,199 had. 975 01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:23,280 >> I'll just ask the other ones of not that 976 01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,920 I know of of any problem, but uh is 977 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,719 there a law enforcement officer hired 978 01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:30,080 for those? 979 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:33,440 Um I've only been to one. It was a small 980 01:49:33,440 --> 01:49:35,199 one in March. Um there was no police 981 01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:39,600 detail requested for that one. Um and we 982 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,159 had but we did hire security to man the 983 01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:45,199 gates and check IDs. Um 984 01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:47,199 >> but I don't know for the others. I think 985 01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:49,199 maybe they have police. I would I would 986 01:49:49,199 --> 01:49:51,440 have to double check with with that. 987 01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:54,080 >> Um I can't remember. No, I did call 988 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,239 Lieutenant 989 01:49:56,239 --> 01:49:57,040 um 990 01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:00,719 >> Boris. Boris today and left a message um 991 01:50:00,719 --> 01:50:02,400 because in my portal did say that they 992 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:03,760 requested police detail. So I'm just 993 01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:04,719 waiting on a call back. 994 01:50:04,719 --> 01:50:05,040 >> Okay. 995 01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,000 >> Yeah. 996 01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,800 >> Any questions of the uh of phantom? Mr. 997 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:09,760 Shaw, 998 01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,000 >> just just for clarification purposes 999 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,840 because it says 500 in attendance, 1000 01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,360 right? And that should trigger some sort 1001 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,239 of 1002 01:50:16,239 --> 01:50:17,280 >> detail. Yeah. 1003 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,520 >> And there wasn't any in in the in the 1004 01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:20,719 past. You said 1005 01:50:20,719 --> 01:50:21,520 >> No, I don't know. 1006 01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:22,880 >> That you don't know of. 1007 01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,719 >> No, I think there was, but I just 1008 01:50:24,719 --> 01:50:26,400 >> Okay. So can't confirm it. The 1009 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:27,920 expectation is that there will be a 1010 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:29,040 police detail 1011 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:30,639 >> at these events even though you hired 1012 01:50:30,639 --> 01:50:33,360 security. 1013 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,199 >> Separate issue that's like a control 1014 01:50:35,199 --> 01:50:37,440 thing. But having a police presence 1015 01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:39,440 >> and and and 1016 01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:41,840 >> EMS or 1017 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,280 >> um I think that's a next step in my 1018 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,400 portal that it's like not through yet 1019 01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,440 for the application 1020 01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:49,520 >> cuz that's a pretty or or I don't know 1021 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:51,280 if EMS or fire. I don't know what 1022 01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:52,880 >> for the big ones. I think they said they 1023 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,280 had both EMS and police 1024 01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:56,960 >> for the ones that were like over 200 1025 01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,070 guests, 1026 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,400 » but we're not but last year. Yeah. Yeah. 1027 01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:03,920 But you're not there as far as the 1028 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:05,920 portal goes for this event. 1029 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:07,440 >> I did submit this one. 1030 01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:09,040 >> Okay. Okay. 1031 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:10,159 >> Mr. President. 1032 01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:13,679 >> Yes. I I just want to be clear if it's 1033 01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:15,760 not a regulation and I don't know if it 1034 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,719 is about the number of attendees 1035 01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:22,639 triggering details then if you want them 1036 01:51:22,639 --> 01:51:24,080 then you have to make them a condition 1037 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:25,280 of your approval right 1038 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,880 >> so I don't know if they're in the 1039 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,320 regulation at 200 people or whatever but 1040 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,639 if they're not and you want them there 1041 01:51:32,639 --> 01:51:36,239 you have to put it in your approval 1042 01:51:36,239 --> 01:51:38,880 >> there is a trigger isn't there 1043 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,480 >> well that's what I was assumption But I 1044 01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:41,920 guess I don't know. 1045 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:49,109 >> She does it. I'm sorry. 1046 01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:49,760 » So you'll be 1047 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:55,109 >> So she might be at the point where 1048 01:51:55,119 --> 01:51:57,119 » Yeah. I left a message with Lieutenant 1049 01:51:57,119 --> 01:51:59,040 Forest today because it said that but 1050 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,639 they wanted police details. So I reached 1051 01:52:00,639 --> 01:52:02,320 out and just I'm waiting for a call 1052 01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:03,040 back. 1053 01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,599 >> So they they said they wanted one. 1054 01:52:05,599 --> 01:52:07,040 >> It's what it said in my in my in the 1055 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:08,560 portal. There's like a message and it 1056 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,800 says police detail requested. Please 1057 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,760 call Lieutenant um Forest at Yeah. 1058 01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:14,400 >> Okay. 1059 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:15,520 >> To coordinate 1060 01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:17,119 >> because we don't want to put an undue 1061 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:19,760 burden on the business if it's not going 1062 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,639 to deny. But if he's saying that, I 1063 01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:26,000 would probably make the motion to add 1064 01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,440 the police detail. 1065 01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:31,199 >> Go ahead. 1066 01:52:31,199 --> 01:52:32,560 >> Isn't it It's already part of It's going 1067 01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:33,920 to be in that packet. I don't think we 1068 01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,520 have to say that. We never done that. Do 1069 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,430 we? We go. Sure. 1070 01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:41,440 » You know, we'll hear from Chief Desert. 1071 01:52:41,440 --> 01:52:43,280 Do you want to comment on this? Just 1072 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:47,510 come up here so we can 1073 01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:51,270 » leave. 1074 01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,119 » So, I would like to say that they do 1075 01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:54,880 contact us through the portal. 1076 01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,119 >> Um, there is a trigger number. Um, I 1077 01:52:57,119 --> 01:52:59,440 don't know if it's identical across 1078 01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:01,760 public safety agencies. Um, but 1079 01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,800 historically, um, I've always suggested, 1080 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,119 well, mandated that an EMS detail be 1081 01:53:07,119 --> 01:53:11,440 there. Um, and a few times, um, like a 1082 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:13,920 week before, they they email me to 1083 01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,639 cancel and say that we don't have the we 1084 01:53:16,639 --> 01:53:18,400 haven't had the ticket sales, so we 1085 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,159 cancel. This happened to the last one, 1086 01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:22,080 okay, on Sunday. I think it was a couple 1087 01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,560 weeks ago. Um, and there was a medical 1088 01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,880 event there. So I there's no way for me 1089 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,040 to actually 1090 01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:30,560 drive by and count the amount of people 1091 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,719 there like you know when I'm off duty. 1092 01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:35,920 So it it's sort of this 1093 01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:37,920 gray area. Um but I can tell you moving 1094 01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:39,440 forward I'm not going to allow them just 1095 01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:41,760 to cancel because they won't have their 1096 01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,280 ticket sales because there's no way for 1097 01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:44,719 me to verify that and I'm not going to 1098 01:53:44,719 --> 01:53:47,679 put this public safety at risk. So um I 1099 01:53:47,679 --> 01:53:49,119 just like to say that. 1100 01:53:49,119 --> 01:53:53,430 >> Okay. Thank you. 1101 01:53:53,440 --> 01:53:55,280 » Mr. McGill. So, is there an event this 1102 01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:58,080 weekend on the 22nd? 1103 01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,960 >> On the 22nd 1104 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:01,920 or the 23rd? 1105 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,520 >> Yeah, I think the 22nd cuz there's a 1106 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:04,800 police detail that's 1107 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:05,679 >> one of those dates. Yeah. 1108 01:54:05,679 --> 01:54:06,480 >> scheduled for that. 1109 01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:07,119 >> Mhm. Yeah. 1110 01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:09,040 >> So, if that's similar to what going on 1111 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,159 here, I don't know what that event is, 1112 01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:11,119 but if it's similar to 1113 01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:12,320 >> it's the same it's the same. 1114 01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,040 >> So, I'm assuming 1115 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,400 >> parking lot takeover series. 1116 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:15,760 >> So, I'm assuming that they end up 1117 01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,040 getting the details. 1118 01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:17,520 >> Okay. So, 1119 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,199 >> that's my assumption, but you talk to 1120 01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:20,320 Lieutenant Forest and 1121 01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:20,800 >> Yeah. 1122 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,040 >> All right. So if they had one there, can 1123 01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,199 I just clarify? 1124 01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:28,400 Was EMS there as well on the last? 1125 01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,000 >> Not this last one because they called 1126 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,760 they emailed you to cancel it. They said 1127 01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,880 they had only sold like 100 tickets. So, 1128 01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:40,320 you know, I replied, "Okay, 1129 01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,679 you know, I get people texting big 1130 01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:45,280 events, 1131 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:49,189 firearms down here." 1132 01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:53,830 » So, 1133 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,080 » okay, 1134 01:54:56,080 --> 01:55:00,480 >> this is justformational since you're new to the role. I just wanted to 1135 01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,960 um let you know that we did pass an 1136 01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,520 ordinance at the last meeting that you 1137 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,719 know as you start going forward um we're 1138 01:55:08,719 --> 01:55:10,800 asking that everyone apply six weeks in 1139 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,199 advance for licenses just for for 1140 01:55:13,199 --> 01:55:15,119 situations like this um just to make 1141 01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:17,040 sure that public safety and everybody 1142 01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:18,400 has a chance to weigh in. So I just want 1143 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,159 to make sure you're aware it's new and 1144 01:55:20,159 --> 01:55:20,880 you're new and 1145 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,320 >> Yes. Yeah. Paige told me. So now I'm 1146 01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,639 doing the state I have it in my my 1147 01:55:24,639 --> 01:55:26,719 agenda is that 8 weeks out I apply for 1148 01:55:26,719 --> 01:55:29,280 the state permit that should come in by 1149 01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:30,719 time for the six week. So 1150 01:55:30,719 --> 01:55:31,360 >> thank you so much. 1151 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:32,480 >> Yep. You're welcome. 1152 01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:36,719 >> Any other questions of the applicant? 1153 01:55:36,719 --> 01:55:37,760 >> No. 1154 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:38,480 >> Thank you so much. 1155 01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,119 >> Thank you very much. 1156 01:55:41,119 --> 01:55:43,119 >> Any motions or further discussion by the 1157 01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:44,480 council on this license? 1158 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,480 >> Motion to approve. 1159 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,280 >> I got a motion to approve by councel. Do 1160 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,040 I have a second? 1161 01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,199 by council McIll. All in favor of 1162 01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:56,000 approve say I. Any opposed? The license 1163 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,719 passes by a vote of seven to zero. 1164 01:55:58,719 --> 01:56:00,719 >> Thank you. Next item. We're moving down. 1165 01:56:00,719 --> 01:56:02,639 We are now at license number six. An 1166 01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:04,480 application for a special event license 1167 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,239 for Franklin Farm for the harvest 1168 01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:09,360 festival event on September 26, 2026 1169 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,679 with a rain date of 20 uh September 1170 01:56:11,679 --> 01:56:15,119 27th, 2026. This is 9 to5 uh p.m. 1171 01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:18,320 located at 142 Abbott Run Valley Road. 1172 01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,159 We do approve this license as pending 1173 01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:22,480 the insurance certificate. 1174 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,320 Um Mudge, did you want to comment on 1175 01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,560 that or do do we have do we even need So 1176 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,719 we we're quite familiar with that. Did 1177 01:56:28,719 --> 01:56:30,159 you someone stick their hand and wanted 1178 01:56:30,159 --> 01:56:32,639 to comment on that? Okay. If I don't see 1179 01:56:32,639 --> 01:56:34,480 any discussion from the me council 1180 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,000 members, I'll take a motion to approve 1181 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:36,400 it. 1182 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:36,960 >> So moved. 1183 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,119 by councelor Bolio. It has been 1184 01:56:39,119 --> 01:56:41,920 seconded by councelor. Was it sure? All 1185 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,239 in favor to approve the license say I. 1186 01:56:44,239 --> 01:56:46,480 Any oppose? This license passes by a 1187 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,440 vote of 7 to zero. We are now at all 1188 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,199 business. 1189 01:56:51,199 --> 01:56:55,280 The first item uh we have on uh up for 1190 01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,639 public hearing is ordinance 26-06. It's 1191 01:56:58,639 --> 01:57:00,239 an ordinance amending the code of 1192 01:57:00,239 --> 01:57:03,280 ordinance regarding the disposition of 1193 01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,199 public property. This was tabled from 1194 01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:08,480 July 15, 2026 council meeting. And 1195 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:12,480 before we go, um I am going to uh uh 1196 01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:14,639 need a motion to accept the A version of 1197 01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:15,360 this ordinance. 1198 01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:15,840 >> So move. 1199 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,679 >> So moved by councelor Bolio second. 1200 01:57:17,679 --> 01:57:20,239 >> Second by councelor sweet 1201 01:57:20,239 --> 01:57:21,760 >> and sure. 1202 01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,719 >> All in favor to uh approve say I. 1203 01:57:24,719 --> 01:57:27,040 >> Any opposed. 1204 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:30,960 >> Okay. We are now dealing with 260 uh 06A 1205 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,440 as amended. I'm going to open the public 1206 01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:39,750 hearing at 8:34 PM. 1207 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,400 Chairwoman Bole. Thank you, Mr. 1208 01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,400 President. So, we did hear this uh 1209 01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,440 ordinance today. It um in our 1210 01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,840 subcommittee and it received favorable 1211 01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,360 passage of 3 to zero. Uh what it does 1212 01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,920 address is the disposition of property 1213 01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:59,360 that could include uh equipment as well 1214 01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:03,280 as uh real estate property itself. Um 1215 01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,239 and it was intended to streamline the 1216 01:58:06,239 --> 01:58:09,840 processes uh for both of those areas. Uh 1217 01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:13,760 and in part as it relates to the um the 1218 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,239 vehicle and equipment that they will 1219 01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:18,719 leverage the state bid list um or some 1220 01:58:18,719 --> 01:58:20,960 other you know public mechanism like 1221 01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:24,639 that. Um, and I don't know if you want 1222 01:58:24,639 --> 01:58:26,560 to add anything as you've been working 1223 01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,719 so hard in this councelor. 1224 01:58:28,719 --> 01:58:33,119 >> Um, ju just the original in intention of 1225 01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:36,320 redoing this ordinance was to give us 1226 01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,560 more options. Before this, we only had 1227 01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:42,480 one um pretty lengthy convoluted way to 1228 01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,719 sell property that the town had that it 1229 01:58:44,719 --> 01:58:46,800 might have an interest in selling. This 1230 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,199 gives us a host of options all still 1231 01:58:49,199 --> 01:58:52,800 requiring approval from the council and 1232 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:54,719 um it is in keeping with what our 1233 01:58:54,719 --> 01:58:57,040 neighbors are doing in the same type of 1234 01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:00,480 situation. Um the only major difference 1235 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,199 is that I did leave the original system 1236 01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:05,119 in place. We just have additional 1237 01:59:05,119 --> 01:59:08,080 streamlined options now. 1238 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,679 >> Excellent. Um thank you. So, what I'll 1239 01:59:11,679 --> 01:59:14,800 do is since the public comment is uh 1240 01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,360 open, is anybody in the audience would 1241 01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,960 like to comment on ordinance 26-06A is 1242 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:24,550 amended? 1243 01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,719 I see no one in the chamber. Madame 1244 01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:30,400 clerk, anyone joining us virtually? 1245 01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:33,840 Okay. Um, so with that said, I'm going 1246 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:38,560 to close the public hearing at 8:36 p.m. 1247 01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,880 and leave any motions or comments to the 1248 01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:42,159 council. 1249 01:59:42,159 --> 01:59:44,239 >> Sure. Question, 1250 01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:46,400 >> Mr. Bradley. 1251 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,719 >> Is this going to allow us to uh sell 1252 01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:52,800 property out on the open market? 1253 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,719 >> Yes. 1254 01:59:54,719 --> 01:59:56,800 >> Okay. 1255 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,920 >> You could we could sell it um through a 1256 01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:01,440 real estate agent. We could sell it 1257 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,560 through a public auction. Um, we could 1258 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,679 sell it to a neighboring property owner 1259 02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:09,679 if they weren't trying to develop it. It 1260 02:00:09,679 --> 02:00:11,599 gives us a whole host of options and 1261 02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:14,639 vehicles and equipment can be se sold 1262 02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:18,880 through um, uh, sites that are like 1263 02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,360 public auction sites like MUN bid. So, 1264 02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,400 sort of eBay for local government stuff. 1265 02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:26,080 Um, so it gives us a whole host of 1266 02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:28,320 options for the best way to sell things 1267 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:30,159 and get the best price. And we would of 1268 02:00:30,159 --> 02:00:32,080 course be voting on them before anything 1269 02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:34,560 was sold. 1270 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,320 >> Yeah, the MUN bid for equipment. I 1271 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:38,000 brought that up about five or seven 1272 02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,199 years ago. 1273 02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:40,800 >> Nothing was ever done with it. So, that 1274 02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:42,960 I'm good to see. However, I don't think 1275 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:44,560 the town should be in the real estate 1276 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,080 business 1277 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:47,840 other than to sell it to an abuing 1278 02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,360 property owner that's going to add it to 1279 02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,360 their property. 1280 02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:52,719 >> Thank you, councelor. Any other 1281 02:00:52,719 --> 02:00:53,199 comments? 1282 02:00:53,199 --> 02:00:55,599 >> I I just want to be clear on the surplus 1283 02:00:55,599 --> 02:00:57,920 equipment and I want to review this for 1284 02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,560 a sec here. 1285 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:04,000 the mayor get is the one that would um 1286 02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:07,760 sell the surplus goods in consultation 1287 02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,360 with a town department. So that would 1288 02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:11,040 not come to you. I just want to clarify 1289 02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:12,960 that real estate always comes to you, 1290 02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:15,760 but the surplus equipment would go on 1291 02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:19,760 the uh MUN bid or similar site. 1292 02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:27,270 >> That's at section F line. find it 1293 02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:28,719 » missing where we also have that 1294 02:01:28,719 --> 02:01:31,679 >> I think question 1295 02:01:31,679 --> 02:01:33,840 >> it it's my reading uh first of all I 1296 02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:35,840 appreciate the council taking up uh this 1297 02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,239 ordinance and I mentioned it for those 1298 02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:39,920 who are history buffs this was actually 1299 02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:43,199 passed in 1996 I'm not actually well 1300 02:01:43,199 --> 02:01:45,599 actually it was probably 1997 1301 02:01:45,599 --> 02:01:48,000 um but um I'm not sure it was ever 1302 02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:51,520 actually uh executed in in any in any 1303 02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:55,440 manner But it is my reading under um on 1304 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:58,960 section A where the town council shall 1305 02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:00,800 determine by resolution the manner in 1306 02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,440 which the real or tangible property is 1307 02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:05,920 to be sold. So, I do believe that I 1308 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:09,199 could be mistaken, but I do think that 1309 02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:12,320 whatever the town was looking to uh 1310 02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,760 sell, there would be a resolution 1311 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:19,040 um informing you as to what was being 1312 02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:21,440 sold in the manner in which it was being 1313 02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:23,840 sold and you would have an opportunity 1314 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,760 to uh weigh in on whether or not you 1315 02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:28,320 thought that was appropriate. Um that's 1316 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:29,840 my reading, but I could be mistaken. And 1317 02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:31,360 then the other the only other thing is 1318 02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:33,679 there needs to be during the committee 1319 02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:35,360 there was a spelling error on Y 1320 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:37,040 >> line 101 that needs to be repaired. 1321 02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:38,000 Thank you. 1322 02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,560 >> So if you do want input on the surplus 1323 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,199 equipment we should change 1324 02:02:43,199 --> 02:02:47,430 uh line 1325 02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:48,960 um 1326 02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:53,109 line 95 1327 02:02:53,119 --> 02:02:56,960 to sorry line 96. when the mayor in 1328 02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,639 consultation with the relevant town 1329 02:02:58,639 --> 02:03:01,679 department determines 1330 02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:05,840 and then yeah 1331 02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,119 >> okay 1332 02:03:07,119 --> 02:03:15,830 >> we will pause 1333 02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:21,830 » is the qualified okay 1334 02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:25,520 » I'm sorry what line was the typo uh 1335 02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:37,750 And that should be qualified, right? 1336 02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,440 Can we correct those on the fly or I 1337 02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:42,400 need a B? 1338 02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:54,229 >> Yeah. No, you can correct them. Okay. 1339 02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:56,080 Madam solicitor, the second line after 1340 02:03:56,080 --> 02:04:00,470 101 was what? 896. 1341 02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:01,360 » 96. 1342 02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:02,960 >> But we're not on Zoom again, right? Are 1343 02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:03,360 we on Zoom? 1344 02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:04,960 >> No, I won't do anything. I'm just I'm 1345 02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,000 just getting ready. That's all. 1346 02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:10,000 >> You're on. 1347 02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:17,030 >> Sandra Arts Live. 1348 02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:22,719 » Yes. Of course. You want me to take a 1349 02:04:22,719 --> 02:04:24,159 >> council doesn't mind? I'm just going to 1350 02:04:24,159 --> 02:04:27,119 take a threem minute recess. 1351 02:04:27,119 --> 02:06:16,470 >> Give her credit for that. 1352 02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:59,040 Yeah. 1353 02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:01,840 we can't complain. 1354 02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:03,360 Absolutely. You know how tough it is to 1355 02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,960 sweep in that league. Okay, the town 1356 02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:09,760 council is back in session. 1357 02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,719 Just to give us a quick uh recap, we are 1358 02:07:12,719 --> 02:07:16,000 now at ordinance uh 2606 1359 02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,719 uh A is amended. Uh we have closed the 1360 02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:21,119 public hearing on this uh ordinance at 1361 02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:22,960 uh 8:36 1362 02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,360 and now we are uh just discussions from 1363 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:28,719 the council. I do have uh two 1364 02:07:28,719 --> 02:07:30,400 corrections we're going to make and I'll 1365 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,639 take those in a second. I know uh on 1366 02:07:32,639 --> 02:07:35,520 line 101 we're going to fix the word uh 1367 02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:37,760 correctly spell it to qualified and 1368 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:39,760 there was one more correction you wanted 1369 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:44,239 to make on 96 madam solic 1370 02:07:44,239 --> 02:07:47,199 >> no it was um we're going to make a 1371 02:07:47,199 --> 02:07:50,719 slight amendment because 1372 02:07:50,719 --> 02:07:52,400 >> oh sorry [laughter] 1373 02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:55,119 >> because we want to um ensure that 1374 02:07:55,119 --> 02:07:57,360 there's no confusion. So, we're going to 1375 02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:01,920 um amend 10 line 101 where it says um it 1376 02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:03,760 starts above that the mayor or his 1377 02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:05,920 design is authorized. We're going to say 1378 02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,800 the mayor or his designate upon approval 1379 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:10,880 by the council is authorized to enter 1380 02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:12,560 into an agreement. And that way it's 1381 02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,400 just clear that the council has to 1382 02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:19,440 approve any sale of property 1383 02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:22,320 >> and that's you said 101. So, it's the 1384 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,320 same line is qualified. Yes. So, we're 1385 02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,639 just change making those t changes on 1386 02:08:26,639 --> 02:08:27,599 line 101. 1387 02:08:27,599 --> 02:08:28,239 >> Yes. 1388 02:08:28,239 --> 02:08:30,159 >> Okay. Madam Madam cler, [clears throat] 1389 02:08:30,159 --> 02:08:35,520 do you have those changes? Okay. So, um 1390 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:38,239 is there any other um any other 1391 02:08:38,239 --> 02:08:40,560 questions? 1392 02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:42,560 So, I'm going to take a motion to 1393 02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:46,159 approve uh 26 1394 02:08:46,159 --> 02:08:47,520 >> motion to amend. 1395 02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:50,320 >> Excuse me. Correct. a motion to amend 1396 02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:52,079 2606A 1397 02:08:52,079 --> 02:08:56,639 by making changes to uh lines 101 that 1398 02:08:56,639 --> 02:09:00,400 were uh suggested by councelor uh and 1399 02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:03,040 you have those madam clerk right okay so 1400 02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:04,719 all in favor to approve those changes 1401 02:09:04,719 --> 02:09:07,280 say I I any opposed 1402 02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:10,480 >> the ch I'm I'm sorry 1403 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:12,480 >> I made the motion 1404 02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:14,000 >> okay good 1405 02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:16,480 >> second was councelor Shaw 1406 02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:18,719 >> all in favor to amend say I I 1407 02:09:18,719 --> 02:09:21,199 >> any opposed? Okay, we are now again 1408 02:09:21,199 --> 02:09:25,679 dealing with uh uh 2606A 1409 02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:29,520 as amended. Um so with that said, is 1410 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,440 there any other comments? I will take a 1411 02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:33,440 motion on the amended. 1412 02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:35,360 >> The the only comment I'll make is just 1413 02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:40,159 to sort of counter councelor Bradley. I don't understand how it would make 1414 02:09:40,159 --> 02:09:43,040 sense for the town to own property that 1415 02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:45,360 we may not need that maybe we acquired 1416 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:48,000 in some way and then 1417 02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,159 could benefit from selling and not have 1418 02:09:50,159 --> 02:09:51,920 the right to sell it unless we sold it 1419 02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,320 to an abuter which would automatically 1420 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:56,400 privilege any a butter that already 1421 02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:58,880 owned property to continue to get more 1422 02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,040 property. It doesn't really make any 1423 02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,760 sense to me. So, I'm hoping the rest of 1424 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,000 the council is going to vote to approve 1425 02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,679 this so that the town has more 1426 02:10:07,679 --> 02:10:10,480 flexibility to sell things that it has 1427 02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:12,320 that it maybe doesn't need or that it 1428 02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:14,480 could benefit by selling since more 1429 02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:17,440 money for the town is always good. 1430 02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,520 >> Thank you, council. And I will counter 1431 02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:21,119 that with if you sell a piece of 1432 02:10:21,119 --> 02:10:23,599 property and you build a house, you sell 1433 02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:25,199 that piece of property for one-time 1434 02:10:25,199 --> 02:10:27,840 money. You now bring kids into the 1435 02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:29,440 school department. We've never adjusted 1436 02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:31,760 our impact fees. 1437 02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:33,679 So that just goes right on the homeowner 1438 02:10:33,679 --> 02:10:35,280 that that's already here. 1439 02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:35,599 >> Well, 1440 02:10:35,599 --> 02:10:37,280 >> so yeah, I'm not a fan of that. 1441 02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:40,000 >> And anytime we're going to adjust those 1442 02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:44,239 upwards, I will vote with you on that. 1443 02:10:44,239 --> 02:10:47,199 >> All set. No further discussion. Okay. 1444 02:10:47,199 --> 02:10:50,159 So, what I'll do now is I will go to the 1445 02:10:50,159 --> 02:10:52,320 I got a motion to approve and it was 1446 02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:53,599 seconded. So, I'm going to go to the 1447 02:10:53,599 --> 02:10:55,440 roll call. Councelor Bradley. 1448 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:56,239 >> No. 1449 02:10:56,239 --> 02:10:58,400 >> Council Mativia. Yes. 1450 02:10:58,400 --> 02:10:59,360 Councelor Shaw, 1451 02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:00,000 >> yes. 1452 02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:01,119 >> Council McIll, 1453 02:11:01,119 --> 02:11:01,599 >> yes. 1454 02:11:01,599 --> 02:11:02,639 >> Councelor, 1455 02:11:02,639 --> 02:11:03,040 >> yes. 1456 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:05,119 >> Councelor Bolio, yes. The chair also 1457 02:11:05,119 --> 02:11:07,199 votes yes. The ordinance passes by a 1458 02:11:07,199 --> 02:11:09,920 vote of 6 to1 with councelor Bradley in 1459 02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:12,239 the negative. Okay, we're moving down to 1460 02:11:12,239 --> 02:11:14,239 our next uh ordinance for public 1461 02:11:14,239 --> 02:11:16,880 hearing. We're at 26-17A. 1462 02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:18,320 We have an ordinance amending the zone 1463 02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:20,639 and ordinances of town of Cumberland, 1464 02:11:20,639 --> 02:11:22,639 Rhode Island. This was tabled from July 1465 02:11:22,639 --> 02:11:24,880 15, 2026 1466 02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,280 uh at that council meeting. I do need a 1467 02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:30,960 motion to accept 26-17A. 1468 02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:31,440 >> So move. 1469 02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,679 >> So moved by councelor Bolio, second by 1470 02:11:33,679 --> 02:11:36,000 councel Shaw. All in favor to amend say 1471 02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,719 I. Any opposed? 1472 02:11:38,719 --> 02:11:41,199 >> Hearing none, the ordinance is amended 1473 02:11:41,199 --> 02:11:44,239 uh by a vote of 7 to zero. I will open 1474 02:11:44,239 --> 02:11:50,470 the public hearing at 8:49 p.m. 1475 02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,280 Chairwoman Bolio. 1476 02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,599 >> Thank you, Mr. President. So this 1477 02:11:55,599 --> 02:11:59,679 ordinance um amends uh the storm water 1478 02:11:59,679 --> 02:12:02,320 management flood hazards, soil erosions 1479 02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:04,400 and sediment control and utilities to 1480 02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:06,560 comply with [sighs] department of 1481 02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:08,719 environmental management requirements. 1482 02:12:08,719 --> 02:12:11,280 And I'm reading from the letter on page 1483 02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:14,639 five. So the ordinance um improves the 1484 02:12:14,639 --> 02:12:16,880 required language uh that wasn't passed 1485 02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,199 in the April ordinance which council 1486 02:12:19,199 --> 02:12:24,000 approved on April 15th. Um and we are 1487 02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:26,159 changing the language from storm water 1488 02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:30,239 basins to storm water control measures. 1489 02:12:30,239 --> 02:12:32,560 Um additionally the planning department 1490 02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:34,159 wanted to provide guidance on 1491 02:12:34,159 --> 02:12:36,560 implementation and design of buffers 1492 02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,119 when commercial or industrial zones 1493 02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:41,040 about agriculture open space or 1494 02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:44,800 residential zones. Um, and the ordinance 1495 02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:46,960 was seen by the planning board at their 1496 02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:49,760 June 25th meeting, continued to the July 1497 02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,159 30 meeting where they recommendations 1498 02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:54,159 received a 90-0 vote, passing 1499 02:12:54,159 --> 02:12:57,840 unanimously. Um, and then the state has 1500 02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,079 requested that the ordinance be updated 1501 02:13:00,079 --> 02:13:03,119 by the end of August. So, uh, this was 1502 02:13:03,119 --> 02:13:05,280 heard also this evening in ordinance 1503 02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:07,760 subcommittee and it received favorable 1504 02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:11,280 passage on a three to zero vote. 1505 02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:14,880 Thank you very much, councel. Um, 1506 02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:16,079 I'm going to go to the members of the 1507 02:13:16,079 --> 02:13:18,000 public. Would anybody in the public like 1508 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:21,599 to speak on this ordinance? 1509 02:13:21,599 --> 02:13:23,360 Seeing none, I'm going to move 1510 02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:25,119 virtually. Is anybody joining us 1511 02:13:25,119 --> 02:13:26,800 virtually who wants to speak on this 1512 02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:28,800 ordinance? 1513 02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:30,719 Okay, no one's got their hand up, so I 1514 02:13:30,719 --> 02:13:33,920 will close the public hearing at 8:50 1515 02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:36,000 and leave any comments or motions to the 1516 02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:39,119 council. So, just I would commend uh the 1517 02:13:39,119 --> 02:13:40,800 director of planning and community 1518 02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:43,199 development for the summary because it 1519 02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:45,119 was great and made it easy for a complex 1520 02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:47,280 ordinance to understand all of the 1521 02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:49,280 changes and I would move passage of that 1522 02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:50,000 ordinance. 1523 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:52,400 >> I got a motion uh to pass by council 1524 02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:55,440 Bolio. Do I have a second? I got a 1525 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:58,079 second by councel Shaw. I'll go to the 1526 02:13:58,079 --> 02:14:00,960 role. Uh councelor Bradley. 1527 02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:02,079 >> Council Mativia. 1528 02:14:02,079 --> 02:14:02,400 >> Yes. 1529 02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:03,599 >> Councelor Shaw. 1530 02:14:03,599 --> 02:14:04,719 >> Council McGill. 1531 02:14:04,719 --> 02:14:06,079 >> Yes. Councelor Swuite. 1532 02:14:06,079 --> 02:14:06,400 >> Yes. 1533 02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:07,360 >> Councelor Bolio. 1534 02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:07,599 >> Yes. 1535 02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:09,679 >> The chair also votes yes. This ordinance 1536 02:14:09,679 --> 02:14:10,560 passes 1537 02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:14,079 >> by a vote of 7 to zero. 1538 02:14:14,079 --> 02:14:17,760 >> Moving down on our next item. 1539 02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:20,800 We are at 1540 02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:22,960 ordinance 26-18. 1541 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:25,440 We have an ordinance amending chapter 38 1542 02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,520 article 3 entitled parking, stopping and 1543 02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:30,239 standing uh of the town of Cumbland's 1544 02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:31,840 code of ordinances presented by the 1545 02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:33,280 council president on behalf of the 1546 02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:35,040 administration. 1547 02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:36,719 I'm going to open the public hearing at 1548 02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:38,400 8:51. 1549 02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:40,800 Turn it over to Chairwoman Bolio. 1550 02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:42,719 >> Thank you again, Mr. President. So, this 1551 02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:44,639 two was heard um in ordinance 1552 02:14:44,639 --> 02:14:46,960 subcommittee meeting this evening. It 1553 02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:49,440 too received favorable passage on a 1554 02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:51,760 three to zero vote. What this ordinance 1555 02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:56,000 does is it amends um uh the ordinance to 1556 02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:59,520 add uh Hope Street to the list of 1557 02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:02,480 locations for accessible parking 1558 02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:05,840 signage. Um I know councelor Mativier 1559 02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:08,159 did interact with the police department 1560 02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:10,560 to ensure you know this was a right best 1561 02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:13,840 fit. Um we asked that a letter be 1562 02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:15,840 submitted. Uh I think it typically 1563 02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:18,320 accompanies this. Uh, so we'll do that 1564 02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:21,920 as as a as a pending action. Um, but 1565 02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:25,440 again, it received favorable passage. 1566 02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:28,000 >> Thank you, Council Bolio. Before I uh go 1567 02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:31,440 to the public, uh, Mr. Mativity, do you 1568 02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:32,880 want to speak on this? 1569 02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:34,960 >> Um, I did speak with the the chief and 1570 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:37,360 he is having them send over a letter. 1571 02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:38,560 >> Thank you. 1572 02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:41,360 councel. 1573 02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:43,920 >> I will go uh to the members of the 1574 02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:46,239 public. Anybody want to speak on this 1575 02:15:46,239 --> 02:15:48,960 ordinance? Seeing none, anybody joining 1576 02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:51,440 us virtually, I'm going to close the 1577 02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:53,440 public hearing 1578 02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:56,400 at 8:53. Take any comments or motions 1579 02:15:56,400 --> 02:15:57,280 from the council. 1580 02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:58,639 >> I make a motion to approve. 1581 02:15:58,639 --> 02:16:00,719 >> Counceling the receipt of the letter 1582 02:16:00,719 --> 02:16:02,239 from the chief. 1583 02:16:02,239 --> 02:16:04,480 >> Councel Bolio makes a motion to approve. 1584 02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:06,880 Do I have a second? Second by councelor 1585 02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:09,119 Shaw. We'll go to the role. Council 1586 02:16:09,119 --> 02:16:10,400 Bradley. 1587 02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:13,040 >> Councel Mativia. Councel Shaw. Yes. 1588 02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:14,239 Council McIll, 1589 02:16:14,239 --> 02:16:14,639 >> yes. 1590 02:16:14,639 --> 02:16:15,599 >> Council Sweet, 1591 02:16:15,599 --> 02:16:15,920 >> yes. 1592 02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:16,880 >> Council Bolio, 1593 02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:17,199 >> yes. 1594 02:16:17,199 --> 02:16:19,199 >> The chair also votes yes. The ordinance 1595 02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:20,159 passes 1596 02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:25,510 >> by a vote of seven to zero. 1597 02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:28,000 » Okay, we're moving down now. We are at 1598 02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:30,880 new business. Uh, first we have a claim 1599 02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:33,439 by Mr. Mark Costello. We are referring 1600 02:16:33,439 --> 02:16:36,080 that to the finance subcommittee. I also 1601 02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:38,639 have a claim from Jason Barry. We refer 1602 02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:42,719 to the finance subcommittee as well. 1603 02:16:42,719 --> 02:16:45,760 No, Jahan Miman. I'm going to refer that 1604 02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:47,439 to the finance committee as well. That's 1605 02:16:47,439 --> 02:16:51,040 our third uh third claim. Next on our 1606 02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:54,000 agenda is appointments. The first 1607 02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:55,599 appointment we have is a deputy parks 1608 02:16:55,599 --> 02:16:57,599 and recreation director, Miss Susan 1609 02:16:57,599 --> 02:17:00,479 Clark. Uh mayor, did you want to uh 1610 02:17:00,479 --> 02:17:02,559 comment on this appointment? 1611 02:17:02,559 --> 02:17:04,000 >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. President, members 1612 02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:06,000 of the council. So, Miss Clark has been 1613 02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:09,040 uh in an acting capacity for a little 1614 02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:10,880 while uh and has been doing an 1615 02:17:10,880 --> 02:17:15,040 outstanding job uh and is replacing uh 1616 02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:17,679 the previous deputy parks and director 1617 02:17:17,679 --> 02:17:19,359 up at the lodge McKenzie. So, we'd ask 1618 02:17:19,359 --> 02:17:21,760 you for favorable passage. Thank you. 1619 02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,399 Mayor. Does anyone have any 1620 02:17:24,399 --> 02:17:26,240 comments on this before I ask for the 1621 02:17:26,240 --> 02:17:28,960 cool? 1622 02:17:28,960 --> 02:17:31,359 >> Yes. 1623 02:17:31,359 --> 02:17:34,639 >> Oh, okay. 1624 02:17:34,639 --> 02:17:37,760 Why don't you put her on? 1625 02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:40,240 >> Thank you, Susan. Welcome and thank you 1626 02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:41,920 for the job you did filling in when we 1627 02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:42,960 needed you. 1628 02:17:42,960 --> 02:17:46,240 >> Oh, thank thank you very much. 1629 02:17:46,240 --> 02:17:47,599 >> Does anybody We won't keep you, I'm 1630 02:17:47,599 --> 02:17:49,760 sure. Does anyone have any questions for 1631 02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:52,719 the applicant? 1632 02:17:52,719 --> 02:17:54,559 >> Miss Clark, we have no questions for the 1633 02:17:54,559 --> 02:17:56,559 applicant. Your work spoke for itself. 1634 02:17:56,559 --> 02:17:57,920 So, I'm going to take a motion to 1635 02:17:57,920 --> 02:17:59,519 approve this uh appointment. 1636 02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:00,160 >> So, move. 1637 02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:02,399 >> So, moved by councelor Suite. was second 1638 02:18:02,399 --> 02:18:04,319 by councelor Shaw. All in favor to 1639 02:18:04,319 --> 02:18:06,719 approve say I. Any opposed? The 1640 02:18:06,719 --> 02:18:09,359 appointment passes by a vote of seven to 1641 02:18:09,359 --> 02:18:11,040 zero. Thank you for joining us, Miss 1642 02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:12,000 Clark. 1643 02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:13,679 >> Next item on our agenda, we're moving 1644 02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:16,479 down to our senior center assistant. Uh 1645 02:18:16,479 --> 02:18:22,319 we have Miss Tracy Goyette. Mayor M. 1646 02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:24,000 >> Thank you, Mr. President, members of 1647 02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:26,800 council. I don't know if Tracy is on the 1648 02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:29,679 call or not, and I must admit I was not 1649 02:18:29,679 --> 02:18:32,399 part of the uh of the interview process 1650 02:18:32,399 --> 02:18:38,000 here, but she uh received uh the uh the necessary approvals from uh Mr. 1651 02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:41,280 Cwley and and uh chief of staff, and we 1652 02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:43,519 would ask you to favorably act upon the 1653 02:18:43,519 --> 02:18:45,200 appointment of Tracy Goyette. 1654 02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:47,200 >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh I'm sorry, madam 1655 02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:49,200 clerk, you said she was online or no? 1656 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:51,920 Okay, no problem. Um okay, thank you so 1657 02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:53,519 much. If there's no further question or 1658 02:18:53,519 --> 02:18:54,800 discussion on this appointment, I'll 1659 02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:57,679 take a motion to approve. Miss Goyette. 1660 02:18:57,679 --> 02:19:00,639 >> Motion by councelor Shaw, second by 1661 02:19:00,639 --> 02:19:02,880 councel McIll. All in favor to approve, 1662 02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:06,160 say I. Any opposed? Uh the uh 1663 02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:08,719 appointment passes by a vote of seven to 1664 02:19:08,719 --> 02:19:11,280 zero. Moving down, we have an 1665 02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:14,319 appointment uh for accounts payable. We 1666 02:19:14,319 --> 02:19:17,679 have Kathy Bido. Uh will uh Mayor, did 1667 02:19:17,679 --> 02:19:19,120 you want to handle this one as well? 1668 02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:21,760 >> Miss Bido is actually in attendance. uh 1669 02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:22,080 oh 1670 02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:23,439 >> this evening. So 1671 02:19:23,439 --> 02:19:24,719 >> haven't had the pleasure though. 1672 02:19:24,719 --> 02:19:26,080 Welcome. 1673 02:19:26,080 --> 02:19:26,639 >> Um 1674 02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:28,719 >> yes, this position uh if you're if the 1675 02:19:28,719 --> 02:19:30,800 council remembers was uh was held 1676 02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:34,080 previously by our uh new deputy finance 1677 02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:37,760 director and uh so Miss Bol, we're very 1678 02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:39,599 uh pleased to have her on staff and 1679 02:19:39,599 --> 02:19:41,519 would be uh asking for your approval 1680 02:19:41,519 --> 02:19:42,399 tonight. Thank you. 1681 02:19:42,399 --> 02:19:44,240 >> Thank you, mayor, and congratulations 1682 02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:46,719 and thank you. Uh does anyone have any 1683 02:19:46,719 --> 02:19:49,359 questions for the applicant? 1684 02:19:49,359 --> 02:19:50,960 Hearing none. I'll take a motion to 1685 02:19:50,960 --> 02:19:52,080 approve the appointment. 1686 02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:52,560 >> So move. 1687 02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:54,800 >> So moved by councelor Bolio, second by 1688 02:19:54,800 --> 02:19:56,960 councel McIll. All in favor to approve, 1689 02:19:56,960 --> 02:19:57,920 say I. I. 1690 02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:00,000 >> Any opposed? The appointment, 1691 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,240 congratulations, passes by a vote of 7 1692 02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:04,560 to zero. We're moving down our agenda 1693 02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:06,399 now. We are now at resolutions. We're at 1694 02:20:06,399 --> 02:20:09,040 resolution 26-35. 1695 02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:11,040 We have a resolution authorizing 1696 02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:12,800 empowering Mayor Jeffrey D. M to 1697 02:20:12,800 --> 02:20:15,840 purchase one 2025 Chevy Silverado, 1698 02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:18,960 $1,500 crew cab from Liberty Chevrolet 1699 02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:25,990 and a total not to exceed $49,299. 1700 02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:27,200 Chief Desert, 1701 02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:30,240 >> good evening. Um, so the previous 1702 02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:34,399 resolution back in June, um, 1703 02:20:34,399 --> 02:20:36,800 the Ford F-150 that was listed on that 1704 02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:39,760 resolution, um, was no longer available. 1705 02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:44,319 um we were unable to um find any Ford 1706 02:20:44,319 --> 02:20:46,880 F-150 that met that from any vendor um 1707 02:20:46,880 --> 02:20:49,439 in the New England region. So, uh we 1708 02:20:49,439 --> 02:20:51,520 would have had to order one, but the 1709 02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:53,280 time constraints on the lease are 1710 02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:55,600 required that we had to use that money, 1711 02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:57,840 those funds by the end of uh September, 1712 02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:59,920 I believe, or early September. Um so, 1713 02:20:59,920 --> 02:21:03,040 we're able to locate this 2025 uh Chevy 1714 02:21:03,040 --> 02:21:07,840 Silverado uh 1500, which um is is uh 1715 02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:11,200 certainly will satisfy our needs. Um, as 1716 02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:13,920 far as um, trailering and moving the 1717 02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:17,600 special operations trailer. 1718 02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,120 >> Any questions on this, Chief? I'll just 1719 02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:20,640 have one before I go on and look. 1720 02:21:20,640 --> 02:21:21,040 >> Sure. 1721 02:21:21,040 --> 02:21:23,040 >> Um, how many miles 1722 02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:25,280 >> on the new vehicle? It's brand new. 1723 02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:26,080 >> 2025. 1724 02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:27,520 >> Yeah, it is. It is brand new. Yes. 1725 02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:27,840 >> Okay. 1726 02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:28,240 >> Yes. 1727 02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:30,000 >> Oh, so 1728 02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:31,840 >> I asked the same question. Yes, it is 1729 02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:35,190 brand new. 1730 02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:37,600 » Any questions of the chief on this 1731 02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:40,710 purchase? 1732 02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:41,840 Okay. 1733 02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:43,359 >> Thank you, Chief. 1734 02:21:43,359 --> 02:21:45,200 >> The next one's mine, too. So, so 1735 02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:46,800 >> you want to stay right up here then? 1736 02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:48,240 >> Motion to approve. 1737 02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:50,720 >> Second. Do I have a second? Sec. So, I 1738 02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:53,359 got a motion to approve. Uh second by 1739 02:21:53,359 --> 02:21:55,040 Council Shaw. All in favor to approve 1740 02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:57,359 resolution 2635 say I. 1741 02:21:57,359 --> 02:21:59,840 >> Any opposed? The uh 1742 02:21:59,840 --> 02:22:01,920 >> resolution passes by a vote of 7 to 1743 02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:05,280 zero. Moving down with resolution 2636. 1744 02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:07,600 We have a resolution authorizing power 1745 02:22:07,600 --> 02:22:09,680 empowering mayor Jeffrey J. Mutter to 1746 02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:12,080 enter an agreement with Strobes and More 1747 02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:13,920 for the purchase and installation of the 1748 02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:16,000 emergency warning equipment, vehicle 1749 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:18,399 console, 1750 02:22:18,399 --> 02:22:20,640 accessories, and related uplifting for 1751 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:23,200 the for a 2025 1752 02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,439 uh Chevy El Dorado 1753 02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:28,479 Silverado 1500 and the amount not to 1754 02:22:28,479 --> 02:22:32,150 exceed $18,919.98. 1755 02:22:32,160 --> 02:22:33,439 Chief Desert. 1756 02:22:33,439 --> 02:22:36,560 >> So, this uh this will allow for the uh 1757 02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:38,399 upfitting of the the the deputy's 1758 02:22:38,399 --> 02:22:41,200 vehicle, uh lights, siren, center 1759 02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:47,830 console, um mounting equipment, um etc. 1760 02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:50,560 » Also, uh in installation of a radio and 1761 02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:53,920 antennas, etc. Thank you. Any questions 1762 02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:56,880 of the chief on this purchase? 1763 02:22:56,880 --> 02:22:58,560 Hearing none or no discussion, I'll take 1764 02:22:58,560 --> 02:23:01,439 a motion to approve. So moved by 1765 02:23:01,439 --> 02:23:04,479 councelu, second by councelor Shaw. All 1766 02:23:04,479 --> 02:23:07,520 in favor of approve say I. Any opposed 1767 02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:10,800 purchase is approved by a vote of 7 to 1768 02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:11,280 zero. 1769 02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:11,600 >> Thank you. 1770 02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:12,240 chief. 1771 02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:12,880 >> Thank you. 1772 02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:14,240 >> Next item we're moving down to 1773 02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:15,760 resolution 1774 02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:18,240 uh 2637. We have a resolution 1775 02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:20,160 authorizing powering Mayor Jeffrey J. 1776 02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:24,000 Mutter to engage in uh Me O'Brien Sons, 1777 02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,760 Inc. for the purchase and installation 1778 02:23:25,760 --> 02:23:28,800 of equipment at Valley Falls Heritage 1779 02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:31,040 Park in the amount not to exceed 1780 02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:34,870 86,778.50. 1781 02:23:34,880 --> 02:23:53,750 Mayor M. Oh, I'm excuse me, Miss King. 1782 02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:56,080 All right. So, good evening counselors. 1783 02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,000 Thank you as always for your time 1784 02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:01,359 tonight. Um, it was almost two years ago 1785 02:24:01,359 --> 02:24:03,359 exactly to the day that I stood in front 1786 02:24:03,359 --> 02:24:07,920 of you on August 21st to ask for uh the 1787 02:24:07,920 --> 02:24:10,479 approval for the EW Burman contract to 1788 02:24:10,479 --> 02:24:12,080 begin construction at the Amoral 1789 02:24:12,080 --> 02:24:15,280 building. Um, which is interesting 1790 02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:17,040 considering now I stand before you 1791 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,359 asking for approval for this next phase 1792 02:24:19,359 --> 02:24:22,000 of the project. As you all know, the 1793 02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:24,319 Amoral building construction is 1794 02:24:24,319 --> 02:24:26,319 complete. The building is open. It's 1795 02:24:26,319 --> 02:24:28,720 been really successful and and nice to 1796 02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:30,800 see all the programming that people of 1797 02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:32,960 all ages have been able to enjoy in 1798 02:24:32,960 --> 02:24:35,520 there. Um, but as you may recall, and I 1799 02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:38,000 do have a few brief slides, we had two 1800 02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:40,000 kind of funding buckets that I would 1801 02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:42,640 describe for this project. The first was 1802 02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:44,560 the million dollars we had received from 1803 02:24:44,560 --> 02:24:46,720 the community development block grant 1804 02:24:46,720 --> 02:24:48,560 and that million dollars was solely for 1805 02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:51,840 the Amaral building that saw us from 1806 02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:53,920 design through construction of the 1807 02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:56,160 building. Then there was a second grant 1808 02:24:56,160 --> 02:24:58,240 which was through the state and is a 1809 02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:00,240 multi-purpose community learning center 1810 02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:03,600 grant that was $3.1 million. Now, that 1811 02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:05,840 grant allowed us to complete the Amaral 1812 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:07,359 building, but the additional funds were 1813 02:25:07,359 --> 02:25:10,240 to be used at Valley Falls Heritage Park 1814 02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:12,240 with the idea being that they're so 1815 02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:14,720 close together that it would be a great 1816 02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:16,240 way to invest in the space to try to 1817 02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:18,880 connect those two spaces together. Um, 1818 02:25:18,880 --> 02:25:21,359 so we are able to use the grant funds 1819 02:25:21,359 --> 02:25:24,640 for the park so long as they directly 1820 02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:28,000 and jointly enable education, health, 1821 02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:30,319 and job training. 1822 02:25:30,319 --> 02:25:33,359 Um, so that kind of brings us to where 1823 02:25:33,359 --> 02:25:35,200 we're at right now. When we received 1824 02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:37,520 those funds, again, as you may recall, 1825 02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:39,520 we did a lot of community engagement 1826 02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:41,760 around what people wanted to see at the 1827 02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:43,920 park. And I appreciate everyone's 1828 02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:46,560 support during that process, whether it 1829 02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:48,240 was coming to the community dinner or 1830 02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:50,399 the design workshops. All of those 1831 02:25:50,399 --> 02:25:53,760 things led us to creating a master plan 1832 02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:56,720 for Valley Falls Heritage Park, which 1833 02:25:56,720 --> 02:26:00,160 was always intended to be a long-term 1834 02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:03,520 plan with several phases. The first 1835 02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:06,000 phase being funded by this grant to 1836 02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:08,319 build an outdoor classroom 1837 02:26:08,319 --> 02:26:10,160 um and some connectivity from the 1838 02:26:10,160 --> 02:26:15,200 Emerald Building to the park. Um, so 1839 02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:16,720 there were kind of a lot of 1840 02:26:16,720 --> 02:26:19,120 conversations as you can see from this 1841 02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:20,800 graphic that was made during our 1842 02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:22,880 community engagement about what people 1843 02:26:22,880 --> 02:26:25,280 wanted to see, what was allowed to 1844 02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:27,680 happen at the park with our covenant 1845 02:26:27,680 --> 02:26:31,040 from DEM, which is really about passive 1846 02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:33,439 um, recreation, but a lot of the common 1847 02:26:33,439 --> 02:26:37,600 themes were education, gathering spaces, 1848 02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:39,760 places for field trips with the tourism 1849 02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:41,520 council right there through the 1850 02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:44,319 Blackstone River waterhed. Um, so that 1851 02:26:44,319 --> 02:26:46,560 really is why we focused on getting an 1852 02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:49,920 outdoor classroom space. And as you can 1853 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:52,080 see, this picture kind of shows you the 1854 02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:54,880 area of the park where the classroom is 1855 02:26:54,880 --> 02:26:56,399 going to be placed. It's going to be 1856 02:26:56,399 --> 02:26:58,560 placed on the main island portion of the 1857 02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:00,319 park. If you're familiar with Heritage 1858 02:27:00,319 --> 02:27:02,800 Park, there had been some discussion 1859 02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,760 about um doing kind of amphitheater 1860 02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:07,520 style in the grading. That was not 1861 02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:10,160 feasible. Um, and quite frankly, it 1862 02:27:10,160 --> 02:27:11,439 makes the most sense to do it on the 1863 02:27:11,439 --> 02:27:14,319 flattest portion where people can gather 1864 02:27:14,319 --> 02:27:16,720 and see the water, be close to the 1865 02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:19,120 water. So, that's why we focused on that 1866 02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:21,600 main island space. So, the proposal that 1867 02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:23,920 you see before you from Emmy O'Brien and 1868 02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:27,600 Sons will replace the existing 1869 02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,319 uh picnic tables that you see in this 1870 02:27:30,319 --> 02:27:33,760 photograph. will um put a new trash 1871 02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:36,319 recepticle and then in the open space 1872 02:27:36,319 --> 02:27:38,720 that you see on the island. There will 1873 02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:42,240 be a large shade structure. Um there 1874 02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:44,479 will be amphitheater style benches 1875 02:27:44,479 --> 02:27:46,960 placed underneath that shade structure 1876 02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:49,520 and a stage will actually be built and 1877 02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:52,000 installed under the shade structure as 1878 02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:55,520 well. The installer will do grading in 1879 02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:57,840 that area. They will actually be moving 1880 02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:00,240 be removing the gr the grass in the 1881 02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:02,479 square portion where the shade structure 1882 02:28:02,479 --> 02:28:05,120 is to allow for easier maintenance and 1883 02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:07,760 we'll be putting in a compacted granite 1884 02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:10,080 um so that stone so that we're able to 1885 02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:13,120 maintain that space and maintain ADA 1886 02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:16,479 accessibility there. Um, this is this 1887 02:28:16,479 --> 02:28:18,240 doesn't show the stage, but this shows 1888 02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:19,920 you the type of shade structure that 1889 02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:21,680 we're going to be installing the 1890 02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:24,800 benches, the new picnic tables, and the 1891 02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:28,800 trash can. And Emmy O'Brien and Sons was 1892 02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:30,960 eager to help us with this project, and 1893 02:28:30,960 --> 02:28:34,720 we we had a timeline that they were able 1894 02:28:34,720 --> 02:28:36,720 to meet, and they are part of a 1895 02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:38,479 cooperative purchasing agreement, which 1896 02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:40,560 allowed us to engage with them directly. 1897 02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:42,319 The name may sound familiar to you. 1898 02:28:42,319 --> 02:28:44,080 We've worked with them several times 1899 02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:46,160 before, whether on the monastery 1900 02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:48,160 playground, and the school department 1901 02:28:48,160 --> 02:28:49,760 has used them for all of the new 1902 02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:51,840 elementary school playgrounds, which 1903 02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:54,560 have been very successful. So, we're 1904 02:28:54,560 --> 02:28:56,560 just looking to kind of really kick off 1905 02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:59,120 this next portion of the project and tie 1906 02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,280 together two really special places in 1907 02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:03,439 Valley Falls. So, with all that being 1908 02:29:03,439 --> 02:29:06,000 said, I respectfully ask for passage and 1909 02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:08,000 I welcome any questions that anyone may 1910 02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:09,520 have. 1911 02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:11,600 >> Thank you, uh, Mr. King. I I do have a 1912 02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:13,520 question if no one else is where's the 1913 02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:15,520 timeline for completion on this? 1914 02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,920 >> So everything soup to nuts will be 1915 02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:19,920 installed by the end of October. 1916 02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:23,680 >> Okay. Do Yeah. No. Yeah. I'll be one 1917 02:29:23,680 --> 02:29:25,359 quick 1918 02:29:25,359 --> 02:29:27,359 I'll pass this maybe even on to the 1919 02:29:27,359 --> 02:29:30,160 mayor. We build it. It's there. Do we 1920 02:29:30,160 --> 02:29:32,160 have or will we'll have a program to 1921 02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:33,840 maintain it? I mean, is this something 1922 02:29:33,840 --> 02:29:37,359 the classroom space by a whim that the 1923 02:29:37,359 --> 02:29:40,319 BF Norton can walk over to or are they 1924 02:29:40,319 --> 02:29:43,120 going to be able to call and 1925 02:29:43,120 --> 02:29:44,880 um 1926 02:29:44,880 --> 02:29:46,640 secure 1927 02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:48,640 it and it's clean? 1928 02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:51,040 >> Yeah. I mean, they it's a public park. 1929 02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:53,120 They wouldn't need to call us to secure 1930 02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:55,280 it. I know they do a walking field trip 1931 02:29:55,280 --> 02:29:57,200 usually to the park every year anyway. 1932 02:29:57,200 --> 02:29:58,880 They usually stop at town hall and have 1933 02:29:58,880 --> 02:30:01,120 lunch at the park. Um, we are we 1934 02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:02,640 specifically designed materials that 1935 02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:04,560 were or picked materials that were going 1936 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:06,800 to be very easy to maintain. That's also 1937 02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:08,800 why we're taking out that grass area. 1938 02:30:08,800 --> 02:30:09,280 Okay. 1939 02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:11,840 >> Um, everything will be installed into 1940 02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:15,760 the ground. It's not movable. Um, the 1941 02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:18,960 shade structure she has in very large 1942 02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:21,520 parks and in cities that haven't been 1943 02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:24,800 damaged and things like that. So, will 1944 02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:27,120 we have to maintain it? Yes. Is it 1945 02:30:27,120 --> 02:30:28,880 something that's specifically designed 1946 02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:31,520 to be very easy to maintain? Also, yes. 1947 02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:34,319 The stage is going to be like that fake 1948 02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:35,840 wood. I can't think of the name. And 1949 02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:37,200 there's going to be an anti-slip 1950 02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:38,800 material put on it. So, it should be 1951 02:30:38,800 --> 02:30:39,520 easy to clean. 1952 02:30:39,520 --> 02:30:40,880 >> I just want to know, you know, if 1953 02:30:40,880 --> 02:30:42,399 they're going to walk down there, as we 1954 02:30:42,399 --> 02:30:44,160 say spontaneously, we're going to hold 1955 02:30:44,160 --> 02:30:46,479 the class there. When they get there, 1956 02:30:46,479 --> 02:30:48,000 are they going to be surprised that they 1957 02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:50,479 can't use it after they move that group 1958 02:30:50,479 --> 02:30:53,840 of kids a few blocks down? That's that's 1959 02:30:53,840 --> 02:30:54,319 all. 1960 02:30:54,319 --> 02:30:56,800 >> Yeah. I mean I we will make every effort 1961 02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:58,479 to maintain it as fast as humanly 1962 02:30:58,479 --> 02:30:59,920 possible. 1963 02:30:59,920 --> 02:31:02,000 >> Mr. Mativia, 1964 02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:04,399 >> thank you. The um the entrance that was 1965 02:31:04,399 --> 02:31:06,479 originally designed to connect it, is 1966 02:31:06,479 --> 02:31:07,680 that not happening at all or just 1967 02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:08,640 postponed or 1968 02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,600 >> So um that is part of a a different 1969 02:31:11,600 --> 02:31:13,920 grant that's a streetscape specific 1970 02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:16,880 grant. Um the primary focus of that 1971 02:31:16,880 --> 02:31:19,920 grant um which we're in the works of of 1972 02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:24,080 getting underway is um a crosswalk that 1973 02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:25,439 we've gone back and forth with public 1974 02:31:25,439 --> 02:31:27,040 safety a little bit on exactly where 1975 02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:29,680 that crosswalk should be um and whether 1976 02:31:29,680 --> 02:31:32,240 we can elevate it or not um in terms of 1977 02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:34,080 snow plowing. 1978 02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:38,240 fixing the sidewalks and then having uh 1979 02:31:38,240 --> 02:31:40,560 doing some tree plantings, clearing the 1980 02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:42,399 overgrown brush and creating a more 1981 02:31:42,399 --> 02:31:44,960 visible entryway from that portion of 1982 02:31:44,960 --> 02:31:45,840 Mil Street. 1983 02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:47,920 >> So, there will be an entrance there. 1984 02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:50,080 Okay. And any of the other um So, that 1985 02:31:50,080 --> 02:31:52,160 is I thought it was off the table. So, 1986 02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:53,680 it's it's still 1987 02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:55,680 >> the entry from Mil Street will still be 1988 02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:58,160 happening. And our goal is I mean, 1989 02:31:58,160 --> 02:32:00,399 ideally, I'd love to see the entire park 1990 02:32:00,399 --> 02:32:02,640 redone. Um, we're actively applying for 1991 02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:04,640 grants for other phases, but we're 1992 02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:06,560 trying to take it in manageable pieces 1993 02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:07,439 at a time. 1994 02:32:07,439 --> 02:32:09,359 >> So th those two phases are the ones that 1995 02:32:09,359 --> 02:32:10,240 are going to go forward. 1996 02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:11,680 >> Those are the ones that we have secured 1997 02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:13,439 funding for and we'll be executing. 1998 02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:15,520 >> Thank you. 1999 02:32:15,520 --> 02:32:17,520 councel. Any other questions, 2000 02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:19,280 Miss King? 2001 02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:20,560 >> May I? Just a comment. 2002 02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:21,439 >> Council, 2003 02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:23,680 >> just excited to see this coming together 2004 02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:26,240 and that there's more outdoor spaces to 2005 02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:28,800 welcome the public to. I know how big 2006 02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:31,040 the attendance now is at the Diamond 2007 02:32:31,040 --> 02:32:33,760 Hill Park and the monastery is always 2008 02:32:33,760 --> 02:32:36,240 full of people enjoying the outdoors. 2009 02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:37,920 So, really happy to see this. Thank you. 2010 02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:39,040 >> Yes, us too. Thank you. 2011 02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:40,319 >> Thank you. 2012 02:32:40,319 --> 02:32:46,469 >> Anyone else? Thank you, uh, Miss King. 2013 02:32:46,479 --> 02:32:47,920 » Okay, with that said, if there's no 2014 02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:49,680 further comment, I'll take a motion to 2015 02:32:49,680 --> 02:32:52,319 approve resolution 2637. 2016 02:32:52,319 --> 02:32:55,520 >> So, moved by councel Mativia. It was 2017 02:32:55,520 --> 02:32:57,040 second by councelio. 2018 02:32:57,040 --> 02:33:01,520 >> Yes. And uh I will take for all excuse 2019 02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:03,280 me all in favor say I. 2020 02:33:03,280 --> 02:33:03,600 >> I. 2021 02:33:03,600 --> 02:33:05,920 >> Any opposed? 2022 02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:08,800 >> The resolution passes by a vote of seven 2023 02:33:08,800 --> 02:33:09,520 to zero. 2024 02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:10,479 >> Thank you counselors. 2025 02:33:10,479 --> 02:33:13,280 >> Thank you. Nice uh nice job sir. Um 2026 02:33:13,280 --> 02:33:17,200 we're moving down now to item D. We're 2027 02:33:17,200 --> 02:33:18,640 ordinance for presentation and 2028 02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:20,880 permission to advertise. First one we 2029 02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:23,920 have 20 ordinance 2619. We have an 2030 02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:25,760 ordinance authorizing temporary parking 2031 02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:29,120 on Tower Hill Road on September 7th on 2032 02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,960 westbound from 100 ft before pole 60 and 2033 02:33:32,960 --> 02:33:35,840 continuing to poll 61 presented by 2034 02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:38,080 council president Kinch. Uh it's 2035 02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:40,640 referred to the uh ordinance 2036 02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:42,560 subcommittee. 2037 02:33:42,560 --> 02:33:46,640 Uh next um we have ordinance 2620. We 2038 02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:48,479 have an ordinance amendment amendment of 2039 02:33:48,479 --> 02:33:50,319 the code of ordinances amending the 2040 02:33:50,319 --> 02:33:52,560 zoning map thereof with reference to 2041 02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:56,640 Cumberland Assesses Plat 058 lots 81 82 2042 02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:58,960 and 83. We're going to refer this to the 2043 02:33:58,960 --> 02:34:01,840 ordinance subcommittee. Um we are now at 2044 02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:04,319 ordinance 26-21. We have an ordinance 2045 02:34:04,319 --> 02:34:06,399 authorizing the placement of a stop sign 2046 02:34:06,399 --> 02:34:09,359 the intersection of Rapid Hill 2047 02:34:09,359 --> 02:34:11,280 Rabbit Hill Road and uh England Street 2048 02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:12,960 presented by councelor Bolio. We're 2049 02:34:12,960 --> 02:34:15,040 going to refer this to the ordinate 2050 02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:18,960 subcommittee. Um, ordinance 26-22, we 2051 02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:20,560 have an ordinance amending the zoning 2052 02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:22,560 ordinance related to data centers 2053 02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:24,880 presented by counceloruite, also 2054 02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:26,960 referred to the ordinance subcommittee. 2055 02:34:26,960 --> 02:34:29,760 Uh, next we have ordinance 26-23. We 2056 02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:31,200 have an ordinance amending the zoning 2057 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:32,479 ordinance of the town of Cumberland, 2058 02:34:32,479 --> 02:34:34,319 Rhode Island, presented by the council 2059 02:34:34,319 --> 02:34:35,920 president on behalf of the 2060 02:34:35,920 --> 02:34:38,080 administration. Moving down, we are a 2061 02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:41,040 seven. Uh, we have ordinance 26-24. We 2062 02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:43,200 have an orders establishing a no parking 2063 02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:46,560 zone on Thompson Hill uh Drive, Thomas 2064 02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:48,479 Drive, and Westbrook drives presented by 2065 02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:51,120 councelor Suite. I'm going to refer that 2066 02:34:51,120 --> 02:34:53,840 as well to the ordinance subcommittee. 2067 02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:55,920 No discussion. I'm going to move on. The 2068 02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:58,640 next item is our public comment section. 2069 02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:00,240 If anybody would like to address the 2070 02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:02,160 council, please step to the podium, 2071 02:35:02,160 --> 02:35:03,439 state your name and address for the 2072 02:35:03,439 --> 02:35:13,190 record. 2073 02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:14,560 Yeah, we'll see how far. 2074 02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:17,920 >> All right, let me just get my clock out 2075 02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:19,760 here. 2076 02:35:19,760 --> 02:35:21,680 >> Good evening, council members. I'm Janet 2077 02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:24,479 Preventure. I live at 3383 Mendon Road 2078 02:35:24,479 --> 02:35:26,880 in Cumberland. 2079 02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:28,479 I've written something. It's a little 2080 02:35:28,479 --> 02:35:30,479 later than I anticipated it to be, so 2081 02:35:30,479 --> 02:35:32,560 I'm going to shorten it up a little bit. 2082 02:35:32,560 --> 02:35:34,399 Um, [clears throat] 2083 02:35:34,399 --> 02:35:36,160 I wanted to talk with you tonight about 2084 02:35:36,160 --> 02:35:39,120 flock cameras and flock safety. 2085 02:35:39,120 --> 02:35:41,680 uh and the cancellation of our town's 2086 02:35:41,680 --> 02:35:43,359 contract with flock safety as well as 2087 02:35:43,359 --> 02:35:46,640 the removal of their ALPR cameras. Um I 2088 02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:48,080 reached out to the council via email 2089 02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:49,520 with several articles as well as some 2090 02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:51,680 letters from the ACLU of Rhode Island 2091 02:35:51,680 --> 02:35:53,280 and requested this topic be added to 2092 02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:55,280 this meeting's agenda. Coincidentally, 2093 02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:57,680 just before I sent my email, the ACLU 2094 02:35:57,680 --> 02:35:59,359 sent you an email of their own with the 2095 02:35:59,359 --> 02:36:02,479 same request. um as a woman of from East 2096 02:36:02,479 --> 02:36:04,640 Providence has now filed a federal 2097 02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:07,280 lawsuit against the town for the use of 2098 02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:10,080 their flock cameras to uh allegedly 2099 02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:16,720 misidentify her and lead to her wrongful arrest. So uh I was let I was 2100 02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:18,000 informed I could speak in the public 2101 02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:20,080 comment section. I pushed back because I 2102 02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:21,200 feel like this is a very important 2103 02:36:21,200 --> 02:36:24,720 issue. Um, and I was then con contacted 2104 02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:27,359 by council president Kinch uh that I was 2105 02:36:27,359 --> 02:36:28,720 welcome to speak during the comment that 2106 02:36:28,720 --> 02:36:30,160 we will have a complete review as soon 2107 02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:31,760 as we discuss the town solicitor due to 2108 02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:35,200 the pending lawsuit. Very much heard. 2109 02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,520 Um, so as we await the complete review, 2110 02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,359 I'd like to speak briefly about the 2111 02:36:39,359 --> 02:36:41,520 dangers of flock safety, what they do 2112 02:36:41,520 --> 02:36:42,960 with our information, and what anyone 2113 02:36:42,960 --> 02:36:45,200 can do with our information and the urge 2114 02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:47,040 the council to do the right thing for 2115 02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:49,520 our town and for our neighbors. 2116 02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:50,800 Uh, for those who don't know, the 2117 02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:53,040 acronym ALPR stands for automated 2118 02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:54,720 license plate reader, which is the 2119 02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,000 designation Flock has given their 2120 02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:57,200 cameras installed all around the 2121 02:36:57,200 --> 02:36:59,040 country. However, these cameras capture 2122 02:36:59,040 --> 02:37:00,560 a whole lot more than just your license 2123 02:37:00,560 --> 02:37:03,040 plate. These cameras capture your car, 2124 02:37:03,040 --> 02:37:04,720 your roof and back racks, bumper 2125 02:37:04,720 --> 02:37:07,600 stickers, and even you. At any point, an 2126 02:37:07,600 --> 02:37:09,680 investigator can go into a search system 2127 02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:11,920 cameras use and look up your vehicle. 2128 02:37:11,920 --> 02:37:13,600 They'll then be granted access to every 2129 02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:15,359 photo taken of your car by flot camera 2130 02:37:15,359 --> 02:37:17,680 in the past 30 days 2131 02:37:17,680 --> 02:37:20,160 by cameras in their jurisdiction. This 2132 02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:21,680 means they can piece together your daily 2133 02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:23,280 routine. They can see when you pick up 2134 02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:25,040 your prescriptions at CVS, when you drop 2135 02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:26,640 your kids off at their high school, when 2136 02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:28,000 you fill your gas tank at Cumberland 2137 02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,000 Farms. Did I mention that the cameras I 2138 02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:31,760 just listed are all currently active on 2139 02:37:31,760 --> 02:37:34,640 Mendon Road in these exact locations? 2140 02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:35,840 You might think, "Oh, well, if an 2141 02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:37,120 investigator is the only person who can 2142 02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:38,560 see what I've been up to, that must not 2143 02:37:38,560 --> 02:37:41,600 be too bad. not too unsafe. Though you 2144 02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:43,120 may be told that your daily routine is 2145 02:37:43,120 --> 02:37:45,200 not only Though you may be told that 2146 02:37:45,200 --> 02:37:46,880 your daily routine is only to be viewed 2147 02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:48,720 by officers of the law for 30 days after 2148 02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:50,640 the photos were taken, they are far from 2149 02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:52,720 the only people who can see it and for 2150 02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:54,160 only a fraction of the time that Flock 2151 02:37:54,160 --> 02:37:56,240 Safety has granted themselves. Their 2152 02:37:56,240 --> 02:37:57,760 updated contracts now grant them the 2153 02:37:57,760 --> 02:37:59,439 exclusive right to determine and control 2154 02:37:59,439 --> 02:38:02,160 the method, timing, format, and medium 2155 02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,640 of access to your data and grant the 2156 02:38:04,640 --> 02:38:06,880 company a perpetual right to it. In 2157 02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:08,560 other words, to do with whatever they 2158 02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:11,359 want forever. 2159 02:38:11,359 --> 02:38:13,040 That information is terrifying in the 2160 02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:15,120 hands of anyone, let alone an 2161 02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:16,960 investigator who may simply be curious 2162 02:38:16,960 --> 02:38:19,520 about you. Curiosity, it turns out, is 2163 02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:21,120 all they need as reason to find you in 2164 02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:23,359 the system. For many search sessions of 2165 02:38:23,359 --> 02:38:26,160 Flock Database, the reason for search 2166 02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:28,960 was simply listed as investigation with 2167 02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:30,399 no further explanation as to why they 2168 02:38:30,399 --> 02:38:33,040 needed to find someone. Days ago, a 2169 02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:34,479 Massachusetts police officer was accused 2170 02:38:34,479 --> 02:38:35,920 of using a flot camera to stalk her 2171 02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:37,920 ex-girlfriend, but inputting her license 2172 02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:39,359 plate into the system and tracking her 2173 02:38:39,359 --> 02:38:41,840 whereabouts. That is unfortunately far 2174 02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:44,240 from the first time and will most likely 2175 02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:46,080 not be the last time an officer 2176 02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:47,760 willfully abuse the system to stop an 2177 02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:49,920 innocent person. These cameras are also 2178 02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:51,760 incredibly easy for an outside party to 2179 02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:53,439 access and with the right skill set in 2180 02:38:53,439 --> 02:38:54,800 network administration and cyber 2181 02:38:54,800 --> 02:38:56,720 security can be routed directly to an 2182 02:38:56,720 --> 02:38:59,040 individual's system at home. 2183 02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:00,720 There are almost no safeguards stopping 2184 02:39:00,720 --> 02:39:02,000 someone from watching your neighbors, 2185 02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:03,760 your kids, or you from the comfort of 2186 02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:05,760 their own home. If you're finding this 2187 02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:07,280 overwhelming and hard to believe, don't 2188 02:39:07,280 --> 02:39:10,000 worry. So do I. The research deep dive 2189 02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:11,359 I've done into flock safety and their 2190 02:39:11,359 --> 02:39:12,880 cameras goes much further than what I've 2191 02:39:12,880 --> 02:39:14,720 mentioned here. And I brought with me 2192 02:39:14,720 --> 02:39:16,560 some printouts of my sources that I have 2193 02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:19,200 also emailed to the council. Um, so you 2194 02:39:19,200 --> 02:39:21,920 can do the research for yourself. 2195 02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:24,000 Uh, if the council is to work in our 2196 02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:26,240 town's best interest, oops, I skipped a 2197 02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:28,960 line here. 2198 02:39:28,960 --> 02:39:30,479 Next year, we are set to renew our 2199 02:39:30,479 --> 02:39:32,160 contract with Flock Safety, which means 2200 02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:34,560 our contract is almost up. So, there is 2201 02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:36,800 still hope. If the council is to work in 2202 02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:38,319 our town's best interest, by this time 2203 02:39:38,319 --> 02:39:39,760 next year, we could be free of flock 2204 02:39:39,760 --> 02:39:41,760 cameras, which, did I forget to mention 2205 02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:43,439 continue to record after contract 2206 02:39:43,439 --> 02:39:46,640 cancellation unless physically removed. 2207 02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:48,880 I digress. I'm here to warn my neighbors 2208 02:39:48,880 --> 02:39:50,720 and the council who represent us of the 2209 02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:52,319 immeasurable danger of flock safety's 2210 02:39:52,319 --> 02:39:54,240 ALPRs and of their chance to ri 2211 02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:56,319 Cumberland of such a threat. I do hope 2212 02:39:56,319 --> 02:39:58,560 after hearing me today looking in the 2213 02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:00,800 eyes of a rightfully frightened citizen 2214 02:40:00,800 --> 02:40:03,359 of Cumberland that you will do the right 2215 02:40:03,359 --> 02:40:04,720 thing when it comes to the time and 2216 02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:05,920 remove block surveillance from our 2217 02:40:05,920 --> 02:40:07,200 streets. Thank you. 2218 02:40:07,200 --> 02:40:09,920 >> And thank you very much. 2219 02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:12,800 >> Anyone else? Clap if you'd like. That's 2220 02:40:12,800 --> 02:40:14,240 okay. [laughter] 2221 02:40:14,240 --> 02:40:17,520 >> That's not a problem. 2222 02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:20,720 We do I I did let uh Janet go a little 2223 02:40:20,720 --> 02:40:22,479 bit longer. We try to keep it around 2224 02:40:22,479 --> 02:40:24,479 three, but uh you know, we're going to 2225 02:40:24,479 --> 02:40:25,760 be a little lenient. and I know this 2226 02:40:25,760 --> 02:40:28,399 means a lot to a lot of people. 2227 02:40:28,399 --> 02:40:31,439 >> Thanks. Uh my name is Jonah Filibar, 2228 02:40:31,439 --> 02:40:34,399 also a resident of 3383 Mendon Road in 2229 02:40:34,399 --> 02:40:37,439 Cumberland. Um I wanted to speak just a 2230 02:40:37,439 --> 02:40:39,840 little bit more on the technical side of 2231 02:40:39,840 --> 02:40:42,640 block safety cameras. Uh I am a 2232 02:40:42,640 --> 02:40:44,319 development and operational engineer at 2233 02:40:44,319 --> 02:40:46,640 a medtech company. So part of my work 2234 02:40:46,640 --> 02:40:49,520 involves vetting software and hardware 2235 02:40:49,520 --> 02:40:51,120 components that are used in medical 2236 02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,319 equipment. um just to lend some 2237 02:40:54,319 --> 02:40:56,399 credibility to the things that I was 2238 02:40:56,399 --> 02:40:59,840 going to say. Um one of the big tools 2239 02:40:59,840 --> 02:41:02,800 that I use in determining the safety of 2240 02:41:02,800 --> 02:41:04,640 uh software hardware component is 2241 02:41:04,640 --> 02:41:06,080 whether or not it has an entry into the 2242 02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:07,520 national security vulnerability 2243 02:41:07,520 --> 02:41:10,319 database, which is an open-source um 2244 02:41:10,319 --> 02:41:13,600 database filled with uh discovered uh 2245 02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:15,120 vulnerabilities in software and 2246 02:41:15,120 --> 02:41:17,920 hardware. Um, 2247 02:41:17,920 --> 02:41:20,160 for context, if I find even one 2248 02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:22,240 pertinent entry into the database that 2249 02:41:22,240 --> 02:41:23,680 relates to the device, that is 2250 02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:25,359 absolutely off the table. We can't have 2251 02:41:25,359 --> 02:41:28,240 that sort of risk in a medical device. 2252 02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:30,880 Uh, the last time that I checked, Flock 2253 02:41:30,880 --> 02:41:34,479 Camera has 57 entries and 33 confirmed 2254 02:41:34,479 --> 02:41:37,750 vulnerabilities. 2255 02:41:37,760 --> 02:41:40,319 I have never seen that many 2256 02:41:40,319 --> 02:41:43,359 vulnerabilities for a device. 2257 02:41:43,359 --> 02:41:45,359 Um I was hoping to explain one of them 2258 02:41:45,359 --> 02:41:48,000 in a little more detail uh using words 2259 02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:50,240 that might be in terms that people can 2260 02:41:50,240 --> 02:41:52,800 understand just so you can see how wide 2261 02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:55,840 open they are. Um 2262 02:41:55,840 --> 02:41:57,600 this particular exploitation takes 2263 02:41:57,600 --> 02:41:59,920 advantage of what is called diagnostic 2264 02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:02,399 mode on the camera. Diagnostic mode can 2265 02:42:02,399 --> 02:42:03,920 be entered by repeatedly pressing the 2266 02:42:03,920 --> 02:42:05,439 power button on the back of the camera. 2267 02:42:05,439 --> 02:42:07,280 I want to say ahead of time these things 2268 02:42:07,280 --> 02:42:08,960 were all discovered using the right to 2269 02:42:08,960 --> 02:42:12,399 repair. Um, I'm not divulging 2270 02:42:12,399 --> 02:42:15,840 flock secrets here. Um, they've pretty 2271 02:42:15,840 --> 02:42:18,000 much divulged them themselves. You can 2272 02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:20,399 press the button repeatedly or if the 2273 02:42:20,399 --> 02:42:22,560 camera receives any damage, it will it 2274 02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:24,319 will enter diagnostic mode as well. So, 2275 02:42:24,319 --> 02:42:26,160 you can remove the cell card. The camera 2276 02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:27,680 remain entirely functional, but it will 2277 02:42:27,680 --> 02:42:30,479 enter diagnostic mode. From there, the 2278 02:42:30,479 --> 02:42:32,720 camera will start broadcasting a Wi-Fi 2279 02:42:32,720 --> 02:42:34,319 hotspot. This is intended for 2280 02:42:34,319 --> 02:42:35,920 technicians to access the camera's 2281 02:42:35,920 --> 02:42:38,960 features. Um, among the features 2282 02:42:38,960 --> 02:42:40,640 available from the hotspot are the 2283 02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:43,840 domain name server on port 53, which is, 2284 02:42:43,840 --> 02:42:45,600 if you're not familiar, kind of like a 2285 02:42:45,600 --> 02:42:47,600 road map of the internet. It's how the 2286 02:42:47,600 --> 02:42:48,960 device understands where to reach 2287 02:42:48,960 --> 02:42:51,600 things, meaning a slight edit to that, 2288 02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:53,200 and you can be sending your traffic to 2289 02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:54,800 wherever you like instead of the Flux 2290 02:42:54,800 --> 02:42:57,680 home servers. It includes the HTTP 2291 02:42:57,680 --> 02:42:59,680 server on port 8080, which is a 2292 02:42:59,680 --> 02:43:01,920 transport protocol so vulnerable that if 2293 02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:04,080 you've attempted to click a HTTP link on 2294 02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:05,760 your computer before, your browser will 2295 02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:08,720 warn you, don't click this, your data is 2296 02:43:08,720 --> 02:43:10,399 vulnerable. You are probably about to 2297 02:43:10,399 --> 02:43:12,880 get robbed. If all of that is too 2298 02:43:12,880 --> 02:43:15,760 complicated, and it really isn't, these 2299 02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:17,840 are sort of entry- level concepts in 2300 02:43:17,840 --> 02:43:20,399 network administration. They also just 2301 02:43:20,399 --> 02:43:22,720 explo expose the camera feed directly on 2302 02:43:22,720 --> 02:43:26,000 port 1 2 3 4. The hotspot is password 2303 02:43:26,000 --> 02:43:29,280 protected, but Flock has hardcoded the 2304 02:43:29,280 --> 02:43:32,399 exact same password onto every device in 2305 02:43:32,399 --> 02:43:35,280 plain text. So, it's no small wonder 2306 02:43:35,280 --> 02:43:37,520 that it is common knowledge that the 2307 02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:40,080 password on Flock cameras is with a near 2308 02:43:40,080 --> 02:43:43,760 lethal dose of irony security. 2309 02:43:43,760 --> 02:43:47,359 No capitals, no symbols, the same for 2310 02:43:47,359 --> 02:43:49,200 every camera. 2311 02:43:49,200 --> 02:43:52,160 These cameras are the sloppiest piece of 2312 02:43:52,160 --> 02:43:53,920 hardware I've ever had the misfortune of 2313 02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:56,240 looking into. And I can say with 2314 02:43:56,240 --> 02:43:58,080 absolute certainty that they have not 2315 02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:00,240 passed any sort of third party security 2316 02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:02,160 audit. 2317 02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,399 These devices are used by law 2318 02:44:04,399 --> 02:44:07,359 enforcement, a field where a mistake can 2319 02:44:07,359 --> 02:44:09,760 destroy a life or cost the town a 2320 02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:13,040 lawsuit as you know. And I hope that you 2321 02:44:13,040 --> 02:44:14,160 will remove them at the soonest 2322 02:44:14,160 --> 02:44:16,000 possibility and put some serious 2323 02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:18,080 scrutiny into how it came to be. these 2324 02:44:18,080 --> 02:44:19,359 cameras were installed in the first 2325 02:44:19,359 --> 02:44:20,640 place. 2326 02:44:20,640 --> 02:44:21,120 >> Thank you. 2327 02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:24,640 very much. 2328 02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:29,349 >> Anyone else? 2329 02:44:29,359 --> 02:44:31,120 » Welcome, sir. Just again, state your 2330 02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:32,800 name and address for the record. 2331 02:44:32,800 --> 02:44:37,510 >> Only gave myself two minutes, so 2332 02:44:37,520 --> 02:44:39,600 » Hi. Uh my name is Robert Potter. Uh 2333 02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:41,760 resident of 51 Front Street, apartment 2334 02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:45,920 335. Um, I'm addressing the council as a 2335 02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:47,920 member of Rhode Island Rhode Islanders 2336 02:44:47,920 --> 02:44:50,319 for personal privacy as well as a me uh 2337 02:44:50,319 --> 02:44:52,479 Cumberland resident. Um, speaking in 2338 02:44:52,479 --> 02:44:56,080 support of ordinance number 26-22. 2339 02:44:56,080 --> 02:44:59,840 Um, and I want to thank councelor uh for 2340 02:44:59,840 --> 02:45:01,840 proactively addressing this issue and 2341 02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:03,760 bringing it to the forefront regarding 2342 02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:07,840 data centers in uh potential um zoning 2343 02:45:07,840 --> 02:45:10,880 for data centers in Cumberland. From the 2344 02:45:10,880 --> 02:45:13,680 perspective of a RIP member, uh we do 2345 02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:17,439 oppose data centers across the state. Um 2346 02:45:17,439 --> 02:45:19,439 well, you might ask yourself, how does 2347 02:45:19,439 --> 02:45:21,600 personal privacy and data centers kind 2348 02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:24,399 of mix? Uh it's less on the direct 2349 02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:26,640 impacts of data centers in terms of 2350 02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:29,680 their physical presence, more in the how 2351 02:45:29,680 --> 02:45:32,399 the impact of how data centers are used, 2352 02:45:32,399 --> 02:45:35,200 particularly in terms of uh artificial 2353 02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:39,120 intelligence and AI models. 2354 02:45:39,120 --> 02:45:42,800 um just in terms of like how data is 2355 02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:45,120 collected to build those AI models and 2356 02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:47,520 to train those AI AI models just 2357 02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:50,240 constantly hoovering up uh personal 2358 02:45:50,240 --> 02:45:52,640 information through people's uh internet 2359 02:45:52,640 --> 02:45:55,520 usage as well as just how some end users 2360 02:45:55,520 --> 02:45:58,479 are using those AI models um in terms of 2361 02:45:58,479 --> 02:46:01,520 business use from a the perspective of a 2362 02:46:01,520 --> 02:46:03,760 Cumberland resident um I oppose it 2363 02:46:03,760 --> 02:46:06,000 personally just in terms of the direct 2364 02:46:06,000 --> 02:46:08,479 impacts they have on communities not 2365 02:46:08,479 --> 02:46:11,760 only in the direct energy um increased 2366 02:46:11,760 --> 02:46:14,560 energy costs for user uh other residents 2367 02:46:14,560 --> 02:46:18,640 in the town but also in the long-term 2368 02:46:18,640 --> 02:46:21,359 impact for maintenance costs for upsized 2369 02:46:21,359 --> 02:46:24,560 utilities that are required to m uh to 2370 02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:27,920 meet the demands of these uh AI data uh 2371 02:46:27,920 --> 02:46:29,920 data centers. 2372 02:46:29,920 --> 02:46:31,359 Additionally, there's potential 2373 02:46:31,359 --> 02:46:33,120 increased water usage for some of these, 2374 02:46:33,120 --> 02:46:35,920 but there are al also uh different 2375 02:46:35,920 --> 02:46:39,760 design models that use air cooled um 2376 02:46:39,760 --> 02:46:41,840 technology rather than water cooled. 2377 02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:44,640 That said, those air cooled models do 2378 02:46:44,640 --> 02:46:47,200 tend to have um other impacts, 2379 02:46:47,200 --> 02:46:49,920 especially some AI or data centers that 2380 02:46:49,920 --> 02:46:53,920 use turbine generators which uh present 2381 02:46:53,920 --> 02:46:57,279 uh concerns related to air quality for 2382 02:46:57,279 --> 02:46:59,120 uh surrounding residents as well as 2383 02:46:59,120 --> 02:47:02,319 health effects due to uh increased noise 2384 02:47:02,319 --> 02:47:05,600 um both in the um long-term and 2385 02:47:05,600 --> 02:47:07,279 short-term health effects on that. So, 2386 02:47:07,279 --> 02:47:08,880 in that case, we do oppose them from 2387 02:47:08,880 --> 02:47:11,359 that perspective as well. Thank you. 2388 02:47:11,359 --> 02:47:15,510 for coming down, sir. 2389 02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:17,279 Anyone else can address the town council 2390 02:47:17,279 --> 02:47:22,630 on any topic if they wish. 2391 02:47:22,640 --> 02:47:29,429 Welcome. 2392 02:47:29,439 --> 02:47:31,200 Good evening. Thank you for your time. 2393 02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:33,439 My name is John Downey. I'm from 61 2394 02:47:33,439 --> 02:47:34,880 Pinehurst Avenue, Providence, Rhode 2395 02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:37,040 Island. I'm here tonight on behalf of 2396 02:47:37,040 --> 02:47:38,399 both Rhode Islanders for personal 2397 02:47:38,399 --> 02:47:40,960 privacy and climate action Rhode Island. 2398 02:47:40,960 --> 02:47:43,200 And first and foremost, I would like to 2399 02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:46,160 also indicate my support for uh 2400 02:47:46,160 --> 02:47:49,520 ordinance 2622 as well. I think it's uh 2401 02:47:49,520 --> 02:47:53,040 incredibly insightful. Um as was stated 2402 02:47:53,040 --> 02:47:55,040 just before, uh the environmental 2403 02:47:55,040 --> 02:47:57,920 impacts are 2404 02:47:57,920 --> 02:48:02,000 never overstated. um the water usage, 2405 02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:03,920 the pollutants that are emitted during 2406 02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:06,720 construction and after construction. Um 2407 02:48:06,720 --> 02:48:08,720 the noise has been consistently 2408 02:48:08,720 --> 02:48:09,920 complained about by just about every 2409 02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:13,680 community that's had one built. And 2410 02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:15,600 um the use of turbines has also been 2411 02:48:15,600 --> 02:48:17,439 proven to pollute as well in the 2412 02:48:17,439 --> 02:48:20,640 instances that those are used. Uh as for 2413 02:48:20,640 --> 02:48:23,680 the flock cameras, um I agree with 2414 02:48:23,680 --> 02:48:25,359 everything that's been said already. Uh 2415 02:48:25,359 --> 02:48:27,439 I'm from Providence which is a city that 2416 02:48:27,439 --> 02:48:31,840 has many flock cameras as it is. Um I 2417 02:48:31,840 --> 02:48:33,680 can safely say that uh very few people 2418 02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:35,279 feel safer for having them there. A lot 2419 02:48:35,279 --> 02:48:37,279 of people feel more paranoid. Morale is 2420 02:48:37,279 --> 02:48:39,520 lower. Uh recently it was discovered 2421 02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:42,080 that um similarly to what has been 2422 02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:44,720 stated before, uh these cameras can lock 2423 02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:47,200 onto the Bluetooth signatures put out by 2424 02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:49,840 people's phones. Uh despite the 2425 02:48:49,840 --> 02:48:51,520 company's insistence that that's not the 2426 02:48:51,520 --> 02:48:54,240 case. Um, many police officers, 2427 02:48:54,240 --> 02:48:56,319 including a police officer from Pucket, 2428 02:48:56,319 --> 02:48:58,080 uh, have come forward and expressed 2429 02:48:58,080 --> 02:49:00,720 their concerns involving the security of 2430 02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:03,520 these cameras. And for those reasons, 2431 02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:06,960 um, I am against them being really 2432 02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:09,040 anywhere. So, thank you for your time. 2433 02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:09,840 Have a good night. 2434 02:49:09,840 --> 02:49:12,880 >> Thank you very much for your comments, 2435 02:49:12,880 --> 02:49:14,479 >> sir. Welcome. 2436 02:49:14,479 --> 02:49:15,520 >> Thank you, Mr. President. 2437 02:49:15,520 --> 02:49:21,590 >> It's my my pleasure. 2438 02:49:21,600 --> 02:49:23,680 My name is Randall Rose. Um, 2439 02:49:23,680 --> 02:49:26,160 unfortunately I am also from Providence. 2440 02:49:26,160 --> 02:49:29,040 Um, 20 Lewis Street in Providence. Um, 2441 02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:31,120 but um, and also a member of Rhode 2442 02:49:31,120 --> 02:49:33,200 Islanders for personal privacy like some 2443 02:49:33,200 --> 02:49:34,560 of the Cumberland residents and 2444 02:49:34,560 --> 02:49:38,000 non-residents who have spoken. Um, I 2445 02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:41,520 >> I would came here mainly um to support 2446 02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:43,520 the data center ordinance by 2447 02:49:43,520 --> 02:49:48,640 Councilwoman Suite um, 2622. Um, but I 2448 02:49:48,640 --> 02:49:51,279 feel that as a non-resident for C of 2449 02:49:51,279 --> 02:49:53,600 Cumberland, I really should, um, leave 2450 02:49:53,600 --> 02:49:55,840 it to Cumberland residents to decide on 2451 02:49:55,840 --> 02:49:59,040 this. Um, I think it's great that, um, 2452 02:49:59,040 --> 02:50:01,120 PE residents are speaking up more and 2453 02:50:01,120 --> 02:50:03,120 more in their communities and wanting to 2454 02:50:03,120 --> 02:50:06,319 have a voice. Um, because, you know, um, 2455 02:50:06,319 --> 02:50:09,120 a lot of the national leaders or even 2456 02:50:09,120 --> 02:50:10,479 some of the state leaders have been 2457 02:50:10,479 --> 02:50:12,240 saying, let's just build data centers 2458 02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:14,000 all over the place and not really giving 2459 02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:16,319 local residents a voice. And I think we 2460 02:50:16,319 --> 02:50:18,720 have um more democracy at the local 2461 02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:21,120 level. I think it's really important for 2462 02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:23,680 local residents to decide do we want to 2463 02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:27,600 have these co costs and um repercussions 2464 02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:30,720 from data centers. Um town places that 2465 02:50:30,720 --> 02:50:33,439 have lots of data centers often find 2466 02:50:33,439 --> 02:50:35,680 that the place is physically hotter just 2467 02:50:35,680 --> 02:50:38,960 because it's so hard to cool um a place 2468 02:50:38,960 --> 02:50:41,279 with a thousand computers in it. And um 2469 02:50:41,279 --> 02:50:43,439 each generation of computers takes up 2470 02:50:43,439 --> 02:50:45,520 generates more and more heat. has more 2471 02:50:45,520 --> 02:50:47,760 and more difficulty cooling. Um, I'm a 2472 02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:49,279 former software engineer, so I know 2473 02:50:49,279 --> 02:50:52,399 about that. Um, so I I don't want to be 2474 02:50:52,399 --> 02:50:55,840 heavy-handed. I um but I'm glad that um 2475 02:50:55,840 --> 02:50:58,160 that residents of Cumberland are 2476 02:50:58,160 --> 02:51:00,319 starting this discussion and deciding 2477 02:51:00,319 --> 02:51:02,399 what kind of policy they they want to 2478 02:51:02,399 --> 02:51:04,000 have on data centers because it should 2479 02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:07,359 be up to the residents. Um and I think 2480 02:51:07,359 --> 02:51:10,240 um and I we are not an anti-tech group 2481 02:51:10,240 --> 02:51:12,240 but we believe that the people should 2482 02:51:12,240 --> 02:51:15,680 have a voice um on the the main tech 2483 02:51:15,680 --> 02:51:17,920 issues of our time which includes um 2484 02:51:17,920 --> 02:51:19,680 surveillance cameras, artificial 2485 02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:21,680 intelligence and data centers. Those are 2486 02:51:21,680 --> 02:51:24,640 the three issues we concentrate on. And 2487 02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:27,439 um we um and I didn't have anything 2488 02:51:27,439 --> 02:51:29,279 prepared about flock cameras, but 2489 02:51:29,279 --> 02:51:31,600 usually when a town's flock camera 2490 02:51:31,600 --> 02:51:34,399 contract is up for renewal, I prepare a 2491 02:51:34,399 --> 02:51:36,479 legal analysis of the contract. And I 2492 02:51:36,479 --> 02:51:38,399 have not specifically looked through 2493 02:51:38,399 --> 02:51:40,640 Cumberland's contract yet, but in every 2494 02:51:40,640 --> 02:51:44,880 town's contract I've seen, um, just, um, 2495 02:51:44,880 --> 02:51:46,560 continuing the point that Robert made 2496 02:51:46,560 --> 02:51:49,600 earlier, um, every town's contract I've 2497 02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:53,520 seen, um, bans the town from doing its 2498 02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:55,760 own independent security audit of flop 2499 02:51:55,760 --> 02:51:58,399 cameras. It says you cannot um you 2500 02:51:58,399 --> 02:52:03,600 cannot independently um um look into the 2501 02:52:03,600 --> 02:52:06,080 um device to see what his security 2502 02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:08,319 vulnerabilities are. Um they prohibited 2503 02:52:08,319 --> 02:52:11,200 that legally. Um and that's part of how 2504 02:52:11,200 --> 02:52:14,399 the flop cameras are so unreliable, so 2505 02:52:14,399 --> 02:52:16,479 open to hacking. And of course in modern 2506 02:52:16,479 --> 02:52:18,399 warfare, one of the first things that's 2507 02:52:18,399 --> 02:52:20,640 targeted in modern warfare is they hack 2508 02:52:20,640 --> 02:52:23,040 into these systems. So, um, so it makes 2509 02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:25,359 it open to foreign militaries, hackers, 2510 02:52:25,359 --> 02:52:28,479 and all sorts of people. Um, but I'm 2511 02:52:28,479 --> 02:52:29,920 glad that people are starting this 2512 02:52:29,920 --> 02:52:31,680 discussion, and I realize this this is 2513 02:52:31,680 --> 02:52:34,000 just about putting the one ordinance out 2514 02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:36,319 to advertise, and flock isn't even on 2515 02:52:36,319 --> 02:52:38,319 the official agenda yet, but these are 2516 02:52:38,319 --> 02:52:40,080 going to be important going forward. So, 2517 02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:41,439 thanks for addressing them. 2518 02:52:41,439 --> 02:52:43,359 >> Thank you. 2519 02:52:43,359 --> 02:52:46,720 Anyone else? 2520 02:52:46,720 --> 02:52:48,319 And I will let him I'll just let the 2521 02:52:48,319 --> 02:52:52,240 folks that are uh know that we will have 2522 02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:55,359 um councelor's ordinance in front of us. 2523 02:52:55,359 --> 02:52:57,680 This is as you know this was just to 2524 02:52:57,680 --> 02:52:59,760 advertise it. We will have a public 2525 02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:02,080 hearing on that and of course uh being a 2526 02:53:02,080 --> 02:53:03,520 public meeting you're more than welcome 2527 02:53:03,520 --> 02:53:07,120 to attend uh that public hearing. So we 2528 02:53:07,120 --> 02:53:10,000 have someone uh can I'll finish. I think 2529 02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:11,840 this miss did you want to address the 2530 02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:15,670 council please? 2531 02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:17,120 Just state your name and address for the 2532 02:53:17,120 --> 02:53:21,110 record. 2533 02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,680 » Hi. So, my name is Natalyia Rosemill. 2534 02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:26,080 Um, I'm also with Rhode Islanders for 2535 02:53:26,080 --> 02:53:28,240 Personal Privacy and also coincidentally 2536 02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:30,399 I'm a community member in Cumberland. 2537 02:53:30,399 --> 02:53:34,880 Um, I work at 3383 Mendon Road. Um, hi 2538 02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:38,080 guys. Um, I definitely did not intend on 2539 02:53:38,080 --> 02:53:40,240 speaking at all, but I just wanted to 2540 02:53:40,240 --> 02:53:43,600 publicly support um, everything that was 2541 02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:45,439 just said about flock cameras. I was 2542 02:53:45,439 --> 02:53:48,880 here um, about Councilwoman Suites 2543 02:53:48,880 --> 02:53:50,240 ordinance. I wanted to show up in 2544 02:53:50,240 --> 02:53:52,240 support for that. Um, so hopefully I'll 2545 02:53:52,240 --> 02:53:54,319 be back when we are having the public 2546 02:53:54,319 --> 02:53:57,040 hearing about that. Um but I think my 2547 02:53:57,040 --> 02:53:59,760 main point is that just regarding both 2548 02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:02,000 of those issues, data centers and block 2549 02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:06,560 cameras that is has such a big impact on 2550 02:54:06,560 --> 02:54:09,840 the community and community members that 2551 02:54:09,840 --> 02:54:12,479 I think it is um just the one of the 2552 02:54:12,479 --> 02:54:17,760 most important things is that it is the public and the community is 2553 02:54:17,760 --> 02:54:19,600 consulted about these things and that 2554 02:54:19,600 --> 02:54:21,920 their voice is considered in the 2555 02:54:21,920 --> 02:54:24,479 decision to hopefully you guys will be 2556 02:54:24,479 --> 02:54:28,240 considering your decision to renew your contract and 2557 02:54:28,240 --> 02:54:30,560 that the public will have a voice in 2558 02:54:30,560 --> 02:54:33,120 that. I think since we are so deeply 2559 02:54:33,120 --> 02:54:35,760 impacted by 2560 02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:38,640 the presence of flock cameras and the 2561 02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:40,399 potential presence of a data center in 2562 02:54:40,399 --> 02:54:42,479 our community that I think it is just 2563 02:54:42,479 --> 02:54:44,240 it's a public issue all around and I 2564 02:54:44,240 --> 02:54:46,720 just wanted to state that and state that 2565 02:54:46,720 --> 02:54:48,960 I'm I'm glad that it is already being 2566 02:54:48,960 --> 02:54:51,040 proposed. So, thank you. 2567 02:54:51,040 --> 02:54:53,760 >> Thank you. 2568 02:54:53,760 --> 02:54:58,550 >> Anyone else? 2569 02:54:58,560 --> 02:55:00,240 M madame clerk, someone wants to join us 2570 02:55:00,240 --> 02:55:15,750 virtually. 2571 02:55:15,760 --> 02:55:19,200 » Hello, town council. Can you hear me? 2572 02:55:19,200 --> 02:55:20,560 >> Hello. Can you hear us? 2573 02:55:20,560 --> 02:55:22,960 >> Yep. This is Ron Colstrom, 7 Old Forge 2574 02:55:22,960 --> 02:55:24,479 Road. 2575 02:55:24,479 --> 02:55:26,800 Thank you for joining us, uh, Ron. 2576 02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:29,520 >> Yep. No, so one of the things I just to 2577 02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:32,640 add on the flot cameras. So, in 2024, 2578 02:55:32,640 --> 02:55:35,279 the chief of police came, uh, in front 2579 02:55:35,279 --> 02:55:37,359 of the town council and told you guys 2580 02:55:37,359 --> 02:55:39,040 that this was going to be a license 2581 02:55:39,040 --> 02:55:41,200 plate reader, right? And I think most of 2582 02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:42,640 the people that were on the town council 2583 02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:46,399 at the time interpreted that as a um, 2584 02:55:46,399 --> 02:55:48,240 license plate reader that's just going 2585 02:55:48,240 --> 02:55:50,800 to snap photos of your license plate. 2586 02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:53,200 And obviously it's had some pretty good 2587 02:55:53,200 --> 02:55:56,000 um pretty good track record, right? So 2588 02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:59,040 we had a robbery in Attabro and it it 2589 02:55:59,040 --> 02:56:01,520 got to uh identify the person that was 2590 02:56:01,520 --> 02:56:03,760 coming and and committing the crime and 2591 02:56:03,760 --> 02:56:05,439 we found them, right? But there's 2592 02:56:05,439 --> 02:56:07,040 obviously a lot of issues that's going 2593 02:56:07,040 --> 02:56:10,000 to be that we've we've seen. So, I think 2594 02:56:10,000 --> 02:56:12,000 what the town council needs to do, just 2595 02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:15,680 in my opinion, is um bring the chief of 2596 02:56:15,680 --> 02:56:18,000 police back in, ask them a little bit 2597 02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:19,600 more about what the policies and 2598 02:56:19,600 --> 02:56:21,600 procedures are. Obviously, it's not just 2599 02:56:21,600 --> 02:56:23,680 a license break reader with what we've 2600 02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:26,000 been seeing kind of in the news and and 2601 02:56:26,000 --> 02:56:28,240 not knowing what you guys are privy to 2602 02:56:28,240 --> 02:56:31,040 on the police side of things, but I 2603 02:56:31,040 --> 02:56:33,200 think they need to kind of come to you 2604 02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:35,200 guys and say, "Hey, listen, this is what 2605 02:56:35,200 --> 02:56:37,600 we're using it for. If it's a license 2606 02:56:37,600 --> 02:56:40,240 plate reader, that's great. Um, but if 2607 02:56:40,240 --> 02:56:42,399 it's looking at people in the cars, if 2608 02:56:42,399 --> 02:56:44,240 it's storing data longer than you guys 2609 02:56:44,240 --> 02:56:46,399 think, I think there's some questions to 2610 02:56:46,399 --> 02:56:48,399 be asked and uh answers that you guys 2611 02:56:48,399 --> 02:56:51,120 need to figure out. Thank you. 2612 02:56:51,120 --> 02:56:53,680 >> Thank you so much. 2613 02:56:53,680 --> 02:56:55,760 Anyone else? 2614 02:56:55,760 --> 02:56:58,880 Okay, there's no more public comment and 2615 02:56:58,880 --> 02:57:00,319 I want to thank again everybody for 2616 02:57:00,319 --> 02:57:02,560 their uh their input. I'm going to go 2617 02:57:02,560 --> 02:57:03,840 down to the next item and is our 2618 02:57:03,840 --> 02:57:05,760 adjournment. I will take a motion to 2619 02:57:05,760 --> 02:57:08,720 adjurnn at 9:34 by councelor Shaw. Do I 2620 02:57:08,720 --> 02:57:11,439 have a second? Second by councel McIll. 2621 02:57:11,439 --> 02:57:13,600 All in favor to adjourn say I. Any 2622 02:57:13,600 --> 02:57:16,240 oppose? We are adjourned at 9:34 p.m. 2623 02:57:16,240 --> 02:57:20,520 Thank you and thank you everyone.